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Nov. 20, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience

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Joe Rogan Experience #2231 - Jimmy Corsetti & Dan Richards

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unidentified		The Joe Rogan Experience.
unidentified		Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Gentlemen.
		Mr. Corsetti.
		How are you, sir?
		Very nice to meet you, by the way.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Nice to meet you, too, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for that video.
		We talked about it before, but I don't want to say it publicly.
		The debunking of the debunking by Flint Dibble.
		You really nailed him on so many of those things that he was dishonest about.
		I wish we knew in real time, but unfortunately, it takes a lot of research to be able to figure out what he was telling the truth about and what he wasn't.
		Yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tell everybody your site, too.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Dedunking.
		Dedunking the past is my email.
		Dedunking on YouTube or on Twitter.
		That's with two D's like my X. Not debunking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
		Oh, sorry.
		That's okay.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Dedunking, not debunking.
unidentified		Yes.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Dan Richards.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Dedunking.
		Dan Richards.
		Thank you.
		Yeah, the thing with Flint, it was actually funny.
		The moment that I knew that he was lying about the science was when you asked him about the feralization of plants.
		That's where they roll back into being no longer domesticated.
		And he was like, oh, it'll just take thousands of years.
		It's like, no, no, no, no.
		I've researched this, and I know better.
		And he was just knee-jerking straight ahead.
		Oh, just thousands of years.
		And when you pressed him, he's like, well, I don't know for sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a bummer because that's his field of study.
		Which is really kind of crazy.
		It's a really fascinating thing that seeds do adapt to agriculture.
		They adapt to the fact that it's better for the survival of the plant if when you develop agriculture, if they're more robust and they stay on the plant, it's better for the wild if they break off easy and they can scatter better and they can proliferate.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's really basic if you think about it.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if it stays on the plant after it's ripe, it's just sitting there waiting for the first thing to come along and eat it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that whole natural selection thing when it comes to plants is so fascinating.
		But the question was so simple.
		If you stopped having agriculture and these plants just grew wild, would they go back to the same characteristics of wild plants?
		And he was like, no, there's no evidence of that.
		But then I saw your video, and then I looked at some other stuff, and there's quite a bit of evidence of it, particularly with wild rice, right?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Particularly with wild rice, yes.
		That one it looks like, out of any of them, if there's a possibility that one was domesticated and then went back to the wild and then was domesticated again, it would be rice.
		That shows multiple types.
		There's different ways the seeds can break off, right?
		They can break in different points of the plant or they can just fall straight out.
		And rice shows numerous paths there, where wheat only has one genetic pathway to that seed shatter where the seed falls off.
		So it gets pretty complicated, but rice does...
		Rice does have a lot of genetic possibilities for that.
		Now, I'm not a geneticist, so I'm sure that somebody's gonna come and, you know, say this is pseudo crap.
		But ultimately, at the end of the day, Flint was treating it as a debate, whereas you and Graham were both trying to sift to the truth.
		And that's why he was not gonna give Graham one little corner, one little shred of possibility of being right anywhere, when in reality, it's a lot of, just like everything else in life, it's a lot of gray.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also, this whole subject of the past is, it's so obviously confusing.
		Because when you look at, I watched your video today, the Baalbek video, just looking at the enormous size of those stones, there's no reasonable explanation how people, like, what is that dated to?
		Like, what year do they believe it was made?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		This is where it gets fun is because they credit it to the Romans and the Phoenicians.
		However, it goes beyond the sophistication and the capabilities that the Romans were known to have, whether it's the existence of the screwjack for lifting the stones.
		But Baalbek, which is located in Lebanon, and I had the great privilege of going there in September of last year, exactly one month before things kicked off in Israel with the whole Hamas thing.
		And if I hadn't got there then, I wouldn't have no chance.
		Like right now, Israel's bombing Lebanon, and so it's a dangerous place.
unidentified		Thank you.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		But Baalbek, if there was one example, one ancient site on Earth that is evidence of a lost, ancient, advanced civilization—and by advanced, I'm not talking about space lasers here.
		I'm talking about more sophisticated than what we were taught in school for the known capabilities.
		And Baalbek has the largest stones that were ever quarried in human history, the largest stones that were lifted, stacked, and transported in human history, and the largest stone columns in all of classical history.
		And we're talking—so the Trilithon stones.
		Three stones, 900 tons apiece, or 800 metric tons.
		And they were moved a half a mile from the quarry.
		They were lifted and stacked approximately 30 feet off the ground.
		And when I say stacked, they were perfectly lined up.
		And Jamie, it's in my folder of Baalbek if you want to show some of these.
		And they're absolutely massive.
		So let me tell you right here, and I, of course, have the gentleman there who I'll tell you about later highlighted just to kind of show you for perspective.
		Like, that's someone right there.
		It's 5'11".
		Those stones that are highlighted in red are the trilithon stones.
		But these pictures do not do it justice because it's taken through an ultra-wide camera lens.
		From the top to bottom of the red highlighted stones is 14 feet.
		And they're 62 feet long.
		Or 62 feet, excuse me.
		Like, there's me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's so crazy.
		It's hard to tell because of the perspective.
		And people need to kind of understand how a wide-angle lens...
		It sort of distorts things by showing you this enormous field of view.
		But when you're looking at something that's 14 feet long and 62 feet long and 14 feet high, what is the weight of that?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		What's the overall weight?
		900 imperial tons or 800 metric tons.
		And to anyone listening, a metric ton is 2,200 pounds, 1,000 kilograms, and an imperial ton is 2,000 pounds.
		So that's 1.7 million pounds, each of them, and there's three of them.
		And if you were to go to the quarry, there's ones that are 1,200 tons and even 1,500 tons that are 20 feet tall.
		This is mind-boggling.
		Like, Jamie, if you want to just scroll through some of the other photos to kind of give Joe the perspective and the audience the perspective.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These are clearly cut stones that were moved into place and moved 23 feet above the ground.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And technically 30 feet because there's stones that are actually below the ground there that you can't see because it's submerged under the earth.
		So technically it was 30 feet, but 23 feet off the ground today.
		And right there, this highlights...
		So not only is that 14 feet from top to bottom, which you would never realize when you're looking at this.
		And these are confirmed measurements, by the way.
		This is right out of encyclopedias.
		But notice how they're completely flush, nice and even with each other.
		And the...
		This exceeds the known capabilities of what the Romans had.
		And it's worth mentioning that this site is some 2,400 miles from Rome, the capital.
		And if they're going to say that this was created by the Romans, one, people need to understand that the Romans were renowned for documenting everything.
		Yet this site is not credited to anybody.
		They don't know exactly who did it or when.
		But the academics conclude that it had to have been the Romans or the Phoenicians because, of course, there was no one before them.
		And with this photo right here, let me say something else.
		There is evidence of at least two but arguably three different architectures that were done at this site.
		And I would conclude that this is evidence that this site existed in prehistoric times.
		There's also – I could show you encyclopedias that talk about Baalbek being prehistoric in nature dating back 11,000 years of human history.
		It was found by the Romans and the Phoenicians and built upon later.
		And right here is evidence for all that have eyes to see.
		Look how they obviously use broken stones and constructed on top of it.
		Why would you go from making the most advanced stones in history that far exceed anything you see in Rome?
		For example, if you were to go to the Colosseum, as magnificent as that is, it is architecture of mathematics and just brilliance.
		But this right here, why would they use the—for all the feats of Roman history, why would they have the most impressive feats over 2,000 miles away from the capital?
		In fact, let me just say this.
		When I'm talking about 900-ton stones, the largest stone in all of Rome is 53 tons.
		It's the Trasians' capital block that make up the Trasians' column.
		53 tons.
		This is 15 times heavier.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's a number of things, too.
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dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a big believer in ancient technology, as Jimmy's well aware.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Which is why it's important that you're here, because people are going to hear multiple perspectives.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's where I can tell you some things about Baalbek that are still interesting to me.
		One of them is you don't see the Roman foot in those stones, which is weird.
		You would expect to see some sort of breakdown of the Roman foot in these measurements, but they're not there at Baalbek.
		They are there on the stones that were quarried from the ground.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		By Roman foot, what you're saying is that there's a different measurement, what they considered a foot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not 12 inches.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
		There's a Roman unit of measurement that they would use in construction.
		And we don't see it in those stones in the trilithon, but there's three stones that were quarried and left in the ground.
		All of those stones show signs of using the Roman foot.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, will you scroll over to me?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		So that right off the bat shows to me that the ones that were installed were not built by the Romans, but the ones that were quarried were made by the Romans.
		They were trying to quarry out stones to match it.
		Another thing is Roman architecture always uses the most impressive things right in the front.
		You walk in the front of the thing, and that's where you're going to see the biggest stones, the most impressive, for obvious reasons.
		These are in the back, completely on the opposite end of the entrance.
		You have to, like, from what you told me, you kind of have to look for them if you don't know where they're at, right?
		Like, you can't just show up on the site and they say, here's the Trilathon.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me tell you a quick story real quick.
		So I had the pleasure of going there with some people and I'll tell you about it later.
		I won't do the name drop just yet.
		But Dory, who lives in Lebanon, he toured us around and he had been to the site three times before when we went.
		It was his fourth time.
		of the Trilathon Stones.
		They're around back.
		You gotta walk probably a third of a mile to get there.
		They don't even bring the tours around to the Trilathon Stones.
		He had no idea what I was talking about the night before dinner.
		I'm trying to explain to him, "The Trilathon Stones, the 900 ton stones." And I had to show him a picture.
		He had never seen them before. - How do they not show the tourists this? - That's an excellent question.
		You do have to walk.
		To be honest, it's like a 12-15 minute walk to go around to get there.
		I mean, it's part of the platform, but you have to go all the way around.
		And some people just don't feel like making the walk.
		And when we were there, we were totally alone for a half hour with these stones.
		Not a single person.
		There was hundreds of people at the site.
		Not a single one of them came around back.
		Now, just to clarify what the audience is seeing right now, this is at the quarry, which is a half mile away.
		This is where all the stones originate from.
		And this one right here is what's called the Stone of the Pregnant Woman.
		It is 1200 tons.
		As you can see, it's 14 feet tall, which is the same height.
		So with those trilithon stones I was showing you a moment ago, The only difference is that this one's 68 feet long.
		It's virtually the same size except for just a few feet shorter, but it's the same height.
		So that gentleman right there, Pierre, who's a wonderful man, is six foot tall.
		And look at him just dwarfed by this stone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		1,200 tons.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Insane.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's not from there.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		No, it is.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So this is at the quarry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So this one's at the quarry, but the ones that were placed, where are they from?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		This quarry, which is a half mile away.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So this is – So they moved 1,800,000 pounds a half a mile.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Three of them.
		And that doesn't include the two dozen that are 350 tons apiece.
		That doesn't include the nine that are 600 tons apiece.
		Nine stones that are 600 tons apiece are somehow a side note to the Trilathon stones.
		And let me just tell you this.
		This is something – Jamie, if you scroll over a few articles involving – because this is what the audience needs to understand.
unidentified		Three of them.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people hear these numbers and they don't wrap their head around exactly how important this is, which is that go to the article involving the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.
		It's in the same folder of Baalbek.
		And the largest stone moved in modern times is 340 tons.
		And we're going to come back to all these photos, too, because it's extremely important.
		There's some details in here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the one at that goofy museum in L.A.? Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which is, by the way, a very goofy museum.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I haven't been there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so dumb.
		It's so dumb.
		There's an acrylic box that's on the ground that you're supposed to interpret as art.
		It's just a box that's just sitting there.
		It's one of those places where you go there and you go, what is my tax dollars going to?
		You motherfuckers.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Go to the other folder that's moving stones.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So let me just, while he's looking for that, let me explain to you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I saw the video on that, and so what this is, is there was a suspended stone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's an enormous stone that they placed there as part of their art piece.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And this thing was...
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Not that one.
unidentified		Not that one.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Not that, Jamie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This has just failed.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we'll play that video in a little bit.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They had to move this stone.
		It was four miles an hour is the fastest they can move it.
		They had to build a structure around the stone to move it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And this fucking insanely huge truck.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you.
		So the details, it is a 200...
		So they had to custom build a trailer truck around the stone itself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tell Jamie what...
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, look under the moving stones folder.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		There's not a folder, it's just a video.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Go to...
		Let's see here.
		Scroll down a little bit.
		Go to Ramiseum statue.
		Man, these silly...
		You're using a Mac.
		It doesn't show you the preview of the pictures.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Silly Macs.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Keep looking until you find the...
		Of a big red truck, but I'll tell the audience while you're looking for it exactly what we're talking about here.
		So, yeah, keep going.
		All right, back...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You're on it.
		Go back a little bit.
		Go back to the article three, go left like three times.
		Right there.
		Go back, or right there.
		So this one stone, 340 tons, they call it the largest operation of its kind since the Egyptians built the pyramids.
		They had to custom build a 260 foot long trailer truck that consists of 196 semi-truck wheels.
		It has 44 axles, it's 32 feet long, it took a year of planning, it cost 10 million dollars.
		It took nine days to move this 340 ton stone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What a great use of taxpayers' money, $10 million.
		There's no way they needed that money for LA. Yeah, who cares about potholes and homeless people?
		No way.
		I mean, this is more important.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And so this is what's so important, is that the largest stone moved in human history is at the Ramiseum.
		It's the Ramiseum statue in Egypt.
		It's 1,000 metric tons, which is 2.2 million pounds.
		That was inexplicably moved 170 miles from the quarry in Aswan.
		And here's the significance of this.
		Brother, this stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one-third the weight.
		The stone at the Ramiseum is three times heavier.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And how far did they move that stone?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		This one at the museum?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, the one, the Ramiseum.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		170 miles, and the other one was moved 106 miles.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A hundred and seventy miles and it's two million pounds.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And so this is where things get really fun is that they say, the academics, they say that the stones would have been moved on tree logs because that's their best guess.
		And it's not an unreasonable guess.
		But when you look into the nuance details, so I really nerded out hard on this.
		There's a lot of people.
		Are you familiar with the Mohs scale of hardness?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So it's the measurement of stone and it's often used by alternative ancient history buffs to say that, hey, copper-based tooling could not have been utilized to cut granite stone like that's been claimed.
		And there's no evidence that the Egyptians – the Egyptians never told us they used bronze tooling to cut the stones and make up the granite stones within the pyramid.
		And so I started asking them, like, wait a second.
		If they're going to say that they moved a 2.2 million pound stone on tree logs, well, they say that it was the cedar, the Lebanon cedar trees.
		Well, I nerded out on this and there's something called the Jenka scale of hardness, which measures the hardness of wood.
		And it's often used for if you're going to pick wood flooring in your house.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very soft wood.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the softest on earth, not the softest, but it's so soft that it would never even be considered for flooring in your house because your furniture and your heels would dent it immediately.
		And if you were to put significant weight on it, whatever that weight is, it would either crush it, crumble it, or at least dent it out of a circle or being a circular nature to roll on.
		And so when you look into the nuanced details involving the mysterious accomplishments of the ancients, it becomes abundantly clear.
		clear, like if I had one thesis, is that the true history of mankind was more advanced than what we were taught in school.
		Now, how advanced?
		That's the fun topic.
		We'll dive into that here in the next couple hours.
		But the reality is that there's evidence for all who have eyes to see that there are, I mean, again, brother, a thousand metric ton statue.
		And this is right out of encyclopedias.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Show the statue.
		So this is the statue.
		It somehow or another fell.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so it was a seated statue.
		That's me in front of it.
		And it's broken into multiple pieces.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's some images, Jamie, of what it originally looked like.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So that foot, it's up to my belly button.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like the top of the foot.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That's just the foot.
		There's another picture, an illustration that would show you what it would have looked like when it was full.
		Go back one.
		So that's what it looks like from an aerial shot now.
		It's completely toppled over.
		God knows what would have taken to knock this thing over.
		They say probably an earthquake.
		It was a seated statue.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it was a standing statue – That's what it looked like originally.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That's what they – yes.
		And again, 1,000 metric tons is 2.2 million pounds.
		How it got knocked over in itself to me might be indicators of some sort of cataclysm, but that's a side point.
		But the point is this.
		It was moved 170 miles.
		The Egyptians did not articulate, illustrate, or describe how they would have done so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that part of the problem with the burning of the Library of Alexandria is all that information was lost forever?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Here's the thing.
		Let me say this real quick.
		Brother, the Library of Alexandria was like thousands of years before the Great Pyramid.
		Like the Library of Alexandria was just after – was it 47 AD or BC that it got destroyed is believed, something around there.
		So 2,000 years ago.
		This statue is 3,000 years old according to the academics.
		So this is 1,000 years before the Library of Alexandria.
		So yeah, it's not unreasonable to suggest that they would have had information about how they constructed these things.
		In fact, I want to believe that they did.
		But it's gone.
		Yeah, they might not have.
		What were you going to say, James?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, you were talking about the – We look at the way that they move the stones, like you're talking about the cedar.
		They moved one stone in human history that was really big.
		The biggest stone ever moved was the Thunder Stone.
		It was moved by Catherine the Great's people.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Late 1700s.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Late 1700s.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They used a big team of people and they moved this thing, not very far, like 10 miles, 8 miles, something like that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Nine miles.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And half of it was over ocean.
		- And it took nine months. - And when they were pulling this thing on the ground, they had to consistently try metallurgy, different types of ball bearings for it to roll on because the ones they were moving would keep being crushed.
		And then they had to use screw jacks that are just like you jack up a house floor with, like a sub floor.
		They would use these screw jacks to lift the statue back up and put it on bearings.
		Well, the Romans didn't have a screw jack.
		The DG, we had metallurgy, we were trying different kinds of ball bearings and shit.
		That's something way outside.
		I mean, the 1700s, we're talking right at the cusp of them actually making structural steel.
		You know, this is the beginning of iron bridges and shit.
		They were actually making good metallurgy then, and it still took trial and error to move this stone.
		And it's – that stone is basically the same size as the ones at Baalbek, a tiny bit bigger.
		But the same kind of issues where they would have had to have jacked that thing up, they would have had to – which would have took steel or hard, hard metal.
		Basically they had to have some highly advanced metal ergy for the time.
		Not as good as we have now but 1700s level of metal ergy.
		That's what it would have taken.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		The Romans did not have that level of sophistication.
unidentified		Not even fucking close.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So that's the thing.
		So there's something that you informed me of, Dan.
		And let me just give you a shout out.
		Hey, everybody, go subscribe to Dedunking on YouTube.
		Your channel is a goldmine that is bringing – you are bridging together the facts that the alternative theorists are presenting as well as the academics.
		And you're differentiating the truth.
		And your channel is so valuable.
		And what you taught me is that the invention of the screw jack was utilized in order to lift that thunderstone, the bronze horseman, on top of that – those metal rails.
		So with the Egyptian – or excuse me, the Romans didn't have that.
		That wasn't invented until thousands of years later.
		So without that screw jack, they would have never been able to lift it in the first place.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That stone would have just sat there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You said something that you don't believe in ancient technology.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe in ancient high technology in the regards that, generally speaking, when you start getting...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Can you put this microphone...
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'm so sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Put it like a fist from your face.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'm so sorry about that.
		That's okay.
		I'm not a believer in ancient high technology in regards that I don't believe, like...
		Even ancient steam engines would be, like, pushing it.
		When you start talking, like...
		Really advanced stuff.
		I tend to look for other explanations.
		I tend to look for...
		You know, stone was the premier building material for hominids for like millions of years.
		Literally millions of years.
		So, father passed to his son how to do this sort of thing.
		And eventually you get to a point where we start working with metal and that kind of just dies off.
		We quit doing that for a while.
		And then...
		A thousand years goes by and we look at what our ancestors used to do and we're like, holy shit.
		But I honestly think a lot of the stuff that if we just saw how they did it, we would just be like, well, fuck, why didn't I think of that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But wait a minute.
		When you're talking about moving things that are a thousand tons and you're moving them through the mountains, like how?
		Why wouldn't you believe in some sort of ancient technology?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's put it this way.
		I'm not opposed to the idea, but we need to get there first.
		Like if we're going – like we're talking about the Thunder Stone or the Baalbek Stones.
		Going from – like I feel like we need to exhaust every other possibility before we can start hanging our hat on something – Okay, what other possibilities could you even conceive of?
		I'm open to the conversation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it is technology, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It has to be a form of very sophisticated technology if you're going to move something that heavy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It would be definitely something better than we know or different than we know.
		An example that I've used with Jim before was when World War II ended.
		America ended all their sniper schools overseas to tighten the budget.
		And when Vietnam started, we didn't have any sniper schools.
		And the NCOs on the ground say, hey, we need trained snipers.
		They had to actually recruit snipers, sharpshooters from the American Olympic team because we didn't have trained snipers anymore.
		In 20 years, we had better tools, worse results because of the lack of skills.
		So I'm of the opinion that there's some...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, but a sniper is something that we're all very well aware of.
		It's conceivable.
		It's obvious how you would do it.
		You could explain it to the layperson.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can.
		But it was something that still there was a skill set that was lost in just 20 years.
		That's all.
		I think that, like a lot of things, you see a lot of the ideas for moving the big rocks.
		Some guys will use, like...
		They think that water pressure vacuums were used to pull rocks up tubes.
		You see all kinds of interesting hypotheses that use lower tech means.
		Most of them, I think, don't work.
		But I tend to think that those would be the direction we should be looking before we go to ancient high technology.
		And again, the reason that I think that is...
		Because if we do get to ancient high technology, we really need to have eliminated everything else by we get there in order to be taken seriously.
		I guess that's kind of how I look at it.
		I'm a more skeptical person.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Real quick.
		So let's back up to this.
		Let's see if we agree on this.
		Would you agree that what we were taught in school, that the ancients were more sophisticated than the described narrative?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, absolutely.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		See, then there you go.
		So we're on the same page because it's like...
		What's technology?
		Like, do they have space lasers and hydraulics?
		I'm not suggesting that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bow and arrow is technology.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right, a horse saddle technology, right?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So they had something else.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, definitely.
		I think when most people think high technology, like you say, space lasers and stuff, powered things, like something where they were no longer using human power or water power, something they were harnessing energy or doing sophisticated chemistry, things like that's where I start to be like, well, I need more evidence to go that far with it.
		However, the moving of the big rocks is something that I'm quick to say, but in order to do it, we would need If we were to do it, we would need technology well outside of what they had available to them at the time.
		And in my opinion, if you look at those, like at Baalbek, to go back to that, you've got the three big stones that were put in a wall that don't have the Roman unit of measurement used.
		And we've got three big rocks in the ground that do have the Roman unit of measurement.
		I think that they gave up.
		They realized they weren't able to do it.
		They had one group carving them, and the guys tasked to move them, looked at them, what the fuck are you guys on?
		There ain't no way we're moving these things.
		You're on crack.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And the fact that it's undocumented, like the foundation of Baalbek is completely undocumented.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were saying something about dating it to 11,000 years.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So, Jamie, if you go to the Baalbek folder, you'll find an encyclopedia article that describes the evidence of human habitation at Baalbek dating back 9000 BC, which is 11,000 years ago.
		And I'm not suggesting these stones were created back then.
		I'm open to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the evidence?
		Like what kind of evidence?
		Pottery?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
		I'd have to go read through the scientific article, but it's – humans were there 11,000 years ago.
		And the fact that they don't document – when the Romans were – yeah, see right there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And there's another – History that dates back at least 11,000 years, encompassing significant periods such as prehistoric, Canaanite, Hellenistic, and Roman eras after Alexander the Great conquered the city in 334 BCE. He renamed it Helopolis?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Heliopolis?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Heliopolis.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Heliopolis.
		Greek for Sun City.
		The city flourished under Roman rule.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me say this real quick, Jamie.
		Will you go to the picture of the mountains in this folder?
		So this is something that's unbelievable.
unidentified		All right.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So just scroll through all these photos of the mountains because here's something that people need to understand that is unbelievably significant, which is that at Baalbek...
		There are approximately 200 rose granite columns that were transported from the Aswan quarry in Egypt, which is 700 miles as the bird flies.
		And what's wild is that the only way to get them to Balbek, because the Balbek is located in the middle of the Lebanon mountains, and it has an...
		Average elevation of 8,000 feet with peaks reaching over 10,000 feet.
		As you can see, there's a freaking ski resort there, which I couldn't believe when I was driving there.
		There was literally the ski lifts.
		I went there in September.
		So they had to bring all of those multi-ton stone columns from Egypt, and the only way to get there was over these mountains, which is mind-blowing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And what you're saying by how the crow flies, as the crow flies, what people need to understand is that doesn't take into account elevation changes.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So if you have a flat line like a bird and you're flying from one point to another, that's 700 miles.
		But if you have to go up and down and up and down and up and down, it's significantly larger in the measurement.
		It's not 700 miles.
		It's probably double that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		That's an excellent point.
		And it's like, then the question is, like, why would they do this?
		Like, why would they go out of there?
		How and why?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How?
		Why is like, it's cool.
		But how is the real question?
		Like, how do you mean?
		Obviously, we built things because it's cool.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you go to the Acropolis and the Parthenon, you go, why did they do it?
		It was fucking cool.
		You know, it's People like to leave cool shit behind.
		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		When you look at Baalbek, there's a lot of interesting things about it.
		Like it has the largest temple of Jupiter out of anywhere on the Roman Empire.
		Generally speaking, it's got some of the biggest temples in the Roman Empire period, but it's a far-flung corner of their empire, and it's not an important city really.
		I mean, it's semi-important in the region, but it's certainly no Right.
		But it has all these huge temples.
		My opinion is, my thinking is that they showed up and there was this massive stonework there.
		And these are the Romans.
		They can't have the locals thinking their ancestors were better than the Romans.
		So they fucking hijack it.
		We just build big shit on top of it.
		This is now ours.
		We plant our stamp on it.
		This is a Roman building.
		This is all Roman now.
		This was never your ancestors.
		This was always ours.
		And then the locals can't look to their forefathers or whatever legends they had in a couple generations.
		Just the power of Rome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, even the Parthenon, it's built on the Acropolis.
		And the Acropolis is older than the Parthenon.
		And it's, you know, who made that?
		Everybody just shrugs their shoulders.
		Yeah.
		Other folks?
		Stay away from the mysteries.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You know what's interesting about Baalbek as well is that it's in the Bible.
		The Lebanon mountains are mentioned 103 times in the Bible.
		I am not a Bible thumper.
		I am a believer in a divine creation.
		I'm proud to say it because I've seen the proof in my own life.
		However, what's interesting about Baalbek is that they said that it was created by Baal, which is like this demon entity in the Bible.
		And they declare it as the world's first civilization after the flood.
		And it was created by giants as punishment for their iniquities of the flood.
		And I have an article about it, James.
		I mean, if you scroll through, you'll find it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now we're into Anunnaki territory.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		There you go, right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Stichon has entered the chat.
unidentified		Hold on.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Go back to those cranes.
		Let me tell you this.
		So what you're looking at here is the Romans' most sophisticated crane in their history.
		It had a max lifting capacity of 6.6 tons.
		In other words, to lift just one of those trilithon stones, you would need 133 of these, which is obviously completely not feasible whatsoever.
		You wouldn't have the space to do it, and it's just ridiculous to suggest you would coordinate 133 cranes around it.
		So this is what I'm trying to say is that it's further suggestive evidence that the Romans didn't build it because they didn't have the capability to lift stones of that mass.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's still pretty fascinating that the Romans were able to build a crane that could lift six tons.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But not enough to even lift the stones that were inside the King's Chamber.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So let me put this into perspective.
		So the largest stones inside the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid are approximately 80 tons imperial.
		So actually 78 tons imperial or 70 tons metric.
		Removed some 500 miles from the Aswan quarry and lifted and stacked hundreds of feet above the ground.
		But here's what's wild is that those stones, the largest stones in the Great Pyramid, compared to the trilithon stones, the trilithon stones are 15 times heavier.
		Not twice as heavy.
		Not three times as heavy.
		Not ten times as heavy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		As a guy who's skeptical of that stuff, ancient high technology, there's a couple of things that make it where it's like, I straight up can't explain.
		Baalbek is one of them.
		You could use those cranes and lay them on their side and drag that stone across the ground.
		That's exactly what they did with the Thunderstone, Catherine the Great's time.
		But then you are tasked with lifting that son of a bitch, and all of a sudden you're right back to where you started.
		You can drag it across however you want, but when you get to picking it up 14 feet off the ground...
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And they dragged it on those rails, though.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		More than 23 feet off the ground.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		30 feet, right.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is 30 feet.
		It's documented.
		I have 23 feet illustrated because it's where the ground is now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		But the foundation of it goes subsurface.
		So it's like, you know, with these details, like, there's a reason why there is a growing interest in In the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations because smart people of all kinds of walks of life are looking into the nuanced details and realizing like, oh, wait a second.
		Like when Graham Hancock says that there's a missing chapter of human history, like this is reality.
		We don't know how they built the Great Pyramid.
		It is a fact that the Egyptians left us with no explanation of any kind.
		Out of the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs all over Egypt, not a single one of them describes how they constructed the pyramid or how they cut granite stones.
		Not one.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Big gaps in the knowledge is where we end up having these kinds of discussions.
		And I think to go back to where we first started, we mentioned Flint at the beginning.
		We have a problem, in my opinion, that most people that see things kind of like I do as opposed to like Jimmy or yourself does where I kind of need to take my steps to get to that ancient high technology, they end up going that just straight debunker route.
		And then they get skeptical.
		That's skeptical.
		They get cynical.
		They turn into assholes.
		They turn into – they're looking for ways to – Appeal to authority.
		Shoot this down.
		I just – fuck your idea, right?
		Your idea is wrong.
		So I know what the implications are.
		Instead of saying, well, maybe there's other implications.
		Let's have a discussion about it.
		They just go straight to, no, this is impossible.
		This is stupid.
		Make fun of the person.
		Compare it to flat-eartherism.
		Compare it to aliens.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, in Flint's case, he's even worse.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He somehow or another connects to white supremacy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's not just Flint.
		It's that fucking John Hoops, man.
		He's the one that started that shit.
		That guy, Wikipedia, we can talk about that for a quick second.
		John Hoops is a professor for Kansas University and he has been one of the earliest editors of Wikipedia consistently.
		Graham Hancock's page, Younger Dryas' Impact Hypothesis page, All kinds of pseudo-archaeology and pyramids and Atlantis, all that shit.
		He's got locked.
		It's not just that he edits it.
		Him and his buddies edit it, and you can't go in and edit it.
		There's a scientist from the Comet Research Group that tried to edit the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis page and was told he can't because it's a conflict of interest.
		A fucking scientist that works on this shit's a conflict of interest, but a scientist from outside the field isn't.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		By the way, John Hoops studied at Harvard and Yale.
		He got his undergrad, I believe, from Harvard and his PhD from Yale or vice versa.
		This is significant because he's controlling the information.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And he hides this stuff too.
		He'll tell you that...
		I watched him tell Forbes, hey, you guys need to cite Wikipedia instead of just, because they said the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis, and they just made a real quick article about it with no skepticism.
		He says, you need to cite Wikipedia as well.
		He edits the Wikipedia page and doesn't mention that he edits it when he tells people to go look at the fucking thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's his motivation for debunking this stuff?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't like Graham Hancock.
		Same kind of thing.
		He thinks pseudo-archaeology is all the isms.
		If you believe in ancient high technology or you believe in Atlantis, you must be a white supremacist, a racist, a misogynist.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's forget about Atlantis for a minute, but I definitely want to talk about it.
		But what you're seeing is impossible.
		It's essentially impossible with today's technology.
		When you're talking about those stones that were moved 700 miles through the mountains, If you tried to bring some engineers together in the United States in 2024, the best and the brightest, and said, here's your project, they would say, fuck you!
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You can't do it!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you would need super billionaire money, and even then, I don't know how you would do it.
		I just don't, I can't conceivably think of a way.
		And that's what's so interesting about this stuff is that whatever they did was not just complicated for the time.
		It was so beyond our imagination of what was possible at the time that it's beyond our imagination of what's possible today.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, it just, it throws this, these facts, the physical facts about the size and the location they were brought from, that fly in the face of logic and credibility and our understanding of what's possible, not just then, but today.
		So, for anybody to say, oh, we've figured this out, hey man, fuck You definitely haven't, and the problem is that you have these fucking names attached to you.
		Harvard and Yale.
		And you've decided, because there's a group of people that have been studying this stuff, and they fucking wrote some shit down, and you studied what they wrote down, and you did your own studying, you got a degree, you're the guy.
		You're the only one.
		And it's these same fucking weirdo weasels that put their pronouns in their Twitter bio.
		And they're just crackpots.
		They're crackpots masquerading as intellectuals.
		Because the things that they're saying are completely bizarre.
		They're all, 100% of them are captured by this woke ideology.
		100% of them.
		They're weird people, man, because they exist in this structure that's been completely compromised.
		And that's our education.
		Our higher education systems have been completely compromised.
		And this is not to say that they don't teach you amazing stuff about medicine and science.
		Of course they do.
		But they are also in a cult.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It is a total cult behavior.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And honestly, it's their religion.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is a religion because they're mostly atheists.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let me just share this.
		So with the biggest critics and the naysayers of alternative theories...
		There's a common denominator.
		Like when you mentioned the pronouns in their profile, almost all of them have it and they're not trans.
		And if you look at their political ideologies, it is extremely left.
		And these people are visceral.
		They're toxic.
		And let me just make a side point that I almost forgot is when we're talking about Wikipedia, a lot of people say, well, that's why you don't look at Wikipedia.
		You don't trust it.
		Who cares about Wikipedia?
		I'm like, excuse me.
		It shows up at the top of Google on anything that you search.
		So it cannot be ignored.
		Right.
		And when you were talking a moment ago about the impossibility of the movement of these stones, I want to just emphasize this point one more time, which is that movement of that 340-ton stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one-third the weight of the largest stones in ancient history.
		And when you look at what it took to do it, so it's like when people, you know, when you're using the word impossible, it's like, listen, what it took for us to do that, and it was a third of the weight, and he had to custom build this 260-foot-long truck with 196 wheels.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And we have internal costs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Combustion engines.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Hydraulics.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We have roads that are flat and smooth.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Far better metal, far better ropes, and thousands of years of experience.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		The roads.
		One reason why they had to go 106 miles is because they had to go around different roads because most roads couldn't support the weight.
		That's so crazy.
		People, look into this.
		Don't listen to Jimmy the YouTuber.
		Like look into the details on yourself and you realize like this is completely inexplicable.
		And it's so important now because we're living at a time where people are starting to realize that not everything we were taught was true.
		In fact, a lot of things you see in the mainstream media nowadays have been utterly debunked.
		It's all propaganda.
		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		About history.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		About recent history that's easily proven and the mainstream media will tell false narratives.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so we know that people lie.
		So we know that people lie and we know that people love to be in a position of authority to be the only people that are allowed to distribute the truth.
		We know that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to get provocative real quick?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So nowadays there's a lot of conjecture about the historical accuracy of different things involving World War II. And Jamie, if you were to go to the Baalbek folder, or in fact, go to the folder called swastika.
		So this is something that I got tremendous heat for.
		Whereas that when I went to Baalbek, I noticed that there were swastikas all over the place.
		And I'm like, well, that's interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's an ancient symbol, though.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		What a lot of people are not aware of is that the swastika is prehistoric.
		It's found on five continents around the world and dates back approximately 10,000 years.
		It is found in Europe, Africa, Asia, North and South America, all before trans-oceanic sea travel was thought to be possible.
		If you scroll through the images, Jamie, you'll kind of give the audience an understanding.
		Now, let me preface this whole conversation with this.
		Fuck Hitler.
		He stole the symbol, which was a symbol of peace, and he bastardized it.
		So this right here, I took this photo.
		You'd almost think it's photoshopped in.
		This is a photo.
		This is real.
		And I'm like, well, this is fascinating.
		I put this up on Twitter and I said, did Hitler know something about ancient history that we don't?
		And the reason why – and this was a sincere question.
		Everyone started calling me a Nazi.
		I was spreading dangerous Nazism for it.
		No, this is a grown-up conversation.
		Hitler was a very – he was evil but he was intelligent and the Nazis were arguably the most technologically advanced people.
		Country at that time in World War II. The jet engine, rockets.
		And for some reason, for reasons that I cannot find a definitive answer on, is why was Hitler so into archaeology?
		They call it Nazi archaeology.
		And the mainstream people will say, oh, well, he weaponized, he was trying to get this Aryan thing going to unite people and just create an enemy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		People kick it to Himmler a lot.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They'll say that Himmler was the one that was really into that shit.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So that's Peru.
		Like 800 years ago.
		You'll find the Native Americans, the Pima Indians, the Navajo, the Apache.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's actually a Hindu temple in Los Angeles that was near my old house.
		And we went to visit it.
		You could actually have weddings there.
		And they had to have a sign up explaining why there were so many swastikas on the building.
		The swastikas are all over it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I went to Japan and it's the same thing there.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They had swastikas on different shrines.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okinawan karate, when I was a kid, one of their patches was a swastika.
		And this was when I was a kid.
		So this is in the 80s when I first started studying martial arts.
		You could get these Okinawan karate patches that had a swastika on it.
		It had nothing to do with Hitler.
		It had to do with Japan.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, go ahead.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		All right, so real quick, while Jamie's on this slide, this is from the Hopewell Mound people, which is in modern-day Ohio, and that dates back 2,200 years ago.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ, this is from modern-day Ohio 2,000 years ago?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		2,200 years ago, and so here's the point that I'm making about the swastika, is that Look, people debate on whether it was the Milky Way galaxy, the Big Dipper, whatever you want to say its origins were.
		I do not think that it's a coincidence that a symbol, as so specific as it is, is found on five continents around the world before transoceanic sea travel was said to be possible.
		Right.
		It wasn't until 1492 when Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
		End of.
		And it's like, no.
		I believe this is strong, suggestive evidence that humans were traversing the continents and the oceans thousands of years before we were taught in school, which is evidence of being more advanced than we were taught in school.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, what did they think this thing was?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have an idea about that.
		I mean, it's not, you know, it's just Dan's idea, but the four directions, the cross that's the root of the swastika, that's pretty commonly used, even in Native American culture, as like, you know, cardinal points, right?
		This is north, south, east, west.
unidentified		Sure.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		So this could be a symbol for the passage of time.
		This sky is turning.
		The cardinal points turn.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Rotation of the earth along with the points of the compass.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		But that's just an idea.
		It doesn't really add a whole lot of context to it as far as...
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Why not just have a cross, then?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Up, down, left, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it crazy that a geometric pattern is evil?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not just a geometric pattern, but a mustache?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's deeply offensive.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking crazy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, your beard is fine.
		Nobody has any problems with it.
		But imagine, like, if, like, oh, you have a wizard beard.
		You believe in child sacrifice, you piece of shit.
unidentified		It's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's very strange what we've done, and obviously that's how horrific Hitler was.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So here's something people need to understand.
		I want to emphasize this point.
		Hitler, people need to look in the details.
		He was looking for giants in Africa.
		They did.
		They set a mission.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was also on meth.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'd be looking for giants in Africa too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was on meth.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Bro, we're going to go fight dinosaurs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's fucking go.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
		The thing is, though, it's like I have not found an answer on why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant.
		He was looking for Thor's hammer and the Holy Grail.
		And the thing is to me, I'm like, I don't – what did – I feel like there's something that they knew about ancient history that we don't.
		I don't know if this is true or not, but I want – I feel like I can't find a straight answer.
		And let me tell you this.
		If you go Googling for answers on Hitler's interest in archaeology – What are you up to, Jimmy?
		You're going to find the same article.
		So this is actually kind of explosive.
		About two years ago, I made a video about Google sabotaging their search results.
		Because remember how I'll show you if you Google some topic, it'll say there's like a billion results.
		So I made a video on this.
		And they would max out at – it didn't used to be this way because I remember watching a video years ago of people going thousands of pages to find some blog spot on some topic.
		It then became limited.
		I did an experiment myself many times on benign topics such as pancakes was one of them.
		I typed in pancakes.
		It had like a billion – like 700 million results.
		And then it would only go back to page 41. And then it would recycle – All those pages before it, the dozens of pages, would recycle some of the same exact mainstream articles.
		And so I did this on all kinds of topics.
		And now Google has since removed the page numbers.
		And so you can only just go see more, see more, see more.
		And if you're looking for answers on this, they're going to keep sending you the same regurgitated mainstream articles.
		So I can't find a reliable answer on why Hitler was so invested in ancient history.
		And again, I don't give a shit about his Aryan stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why was he into the occult?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I want to know why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, their engineering was insane.
		I mean, look, so many of our best vehicles that we buy today, the most coveted vehicles, came out of Nazi Germany originally.
		Audi, Volkswagen, Porsche, BMW, Bavarian Motor Works.
		I mean, all that shit came from the fucking Nazis.
		I mean, have you ever seen Hitler's race car?
		No.
		Hitler had an Audi race car.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		It's worth like a shit ton of money.
		See if you can find Hitler's race car.
		But this was, I mean, their engineering was superior.
		This is the reason why we had Operation Paperclip.
		So Operation Paperclip, we brought over all of the best Nazi rocket scientists.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		The ones that the colonies didn't grab.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's how we got NASA. We got NASA essentially from Nazis.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That still wows people.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		He used a V2 to put people on the moon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, that's his original race car.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that fucking crazy?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That was basically a V2 rocket.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's an Audi, right?
		What was it?
		Oh, it was a Mercedes Benz?
		Did he have more than one?
		I believe he had a later one.
		That's it.
		That's the one.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that one had the Audi symbol in the front of it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Can you just clarify your pronouns so I know not to be offended that you're interested in this?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I'm he him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm an American man.
		We're coming to your town.
		So look at that photograph.
		Click on that.
		Auto Union.
		I guess that was what Audi's original name was.
		Isn't that crazy?
		Look at that car.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty sharp.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pretty fucking dope.
		Where is it now?
		Oh my god, it says it's worth 5.5 million pounds.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And illegal to sell on so many markets.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that pounds?
		Is that what that is?
		That little sign?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		So many things.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They would be like, oh, that's Hitler's card.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm sorry.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		We can't have you listing that here, buddy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, Tom Segura bought Bert Kreischer a cup that apparently was one of Hitler's cups.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Like one that he handled?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, how the fuck do you know?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let's get him in the studio and see this thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if you have that, you're a monster.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if you had Genghis Khan's sword, you're fucking cool.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's actually an interesting, that's a good comparison.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he killed a lot more people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He killed 10% of the population of Earth.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But he did it long enough ago that you don't hear anybody talking about it anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He raped so many people that his DNA is in a giant percentage of people today.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's like 20%.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, some ridiculous number.
		We've done it before.
		I forget what the numbers are, but they're really nutty.
		But the point is, there's something particularly disgusting to us about that one genocide.
		And it's really interesting.
		And, you know, you wonder, like, how long it's going to take.
		I mean, Dan Carlin has talked about this in depth, because...
		He talks about the Mongols and that it's so far in the past, you know, we're talking about like 1200 AD. It's so far in the past that we look at it with almost like an objective perspective instead of a moral perspective.
		So we say, you know, One thing that Genghis Khan did that was great, he opened up trade to the East, and he was a believer of all religions.
		He could practice anything.
		He didn't impose anything on people.
		But he fucking killed everybody.
		Like, if you were alive back then, he's way worse than Hitler.
		He killed 10% of the population of Earth.
		But the Nazis were so recent.
		You know, we have grandfathers that are alive today that fought in World War II, and they can tell you, you know, like, hey man, I fucking remember this shit.
		And then we have Jews like Ari Shafir's dad, who was in the concentration camps.
		Ari Shafir's dad has a tattoo on his arm.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		His dad's in his 80s, I believe.
		Wow.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That recent memory is a big part.
		I see the Hunter S. Thompson stuff on your wall.
		You read his book of Hells Angels, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You remember him talking about that aspect of it, that the bikers, the Hells Angels rocked Nazi memorabilia.
		He asked the guy, why?
		He's like, because my dad fought the Nazis, and he fucking hates this.
		So I wear this to piss off my dad.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lot of that is contrarians.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		My point is that a Genghis Kong symbol wouldn't be doing any good.
		This has an emotional attachment.
		Genghis Kong's mustache would be fine on me.
		People might laugh at me a little bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know what it looked like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We don't know.
unidentified		They don't know what he looks like.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Nazi thing, the fact that it's so horrific, it just like puts anyone who has anything to say that's coloring outside the lines, you get labeled the Holocaust denier and anti-Semite, you know, the worst labels that they can put on you.
		And a good example of that is that podcast, oh God, I forget his name.
		But it was the Tucker Carlson controversy where he had this guy on his podcast and he was talking about what William Churchill's role in the Holocaust was because they had put these embargoes on Germany and basically starving everybody to death.
		And they just started calling him a Holocaust denier.
		And that's like not what he was talking about at all.
		That's not what he was saying at all.
		He was just saying, no, there's a multifaceted explanation for why they decided to exterminate all these Jews.
		And part of it was because of an embargo where they were starving people out.
		What is his...
		Daryl Cooper.
		And what is this podcast called?
		It's excellent.
		I listen to it all the time, but my brain is not working right now.
		I just got out of the gym.
		I'm on meathead mode.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I know what you're talking about.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I've drawn a blank on it as well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Martyrmaid?
		Martyrmaid, that's right.
		He's Martyrmaid on Twitter and Instagram.
		To call that guy an anti-seminar or a Holocaust is so stupid.
		He's a brilliant guy and his podcast is excellent and he's really sensitive and well-balanced and he gives a very comprehensive view of things.
		It's not in any way prejudiced.
		It's a great podcast.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But you're not allowed to color outside the lines.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was just saying that Churchill was one of the villains.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And that's realistic.
		There are multiple different reasons for that.
		You tighten up their belt.
		That's not going to be passed to the top.
		That's going to go straight to the people in the camps.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And that's no-brainer shit.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not justifying the murder of all those Jews.
		That's not what he's doing.
		That's where it's so crazy about stifling discourse.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that was a fascinating conversation and we should be considering that.
		Like, wow, that's crazy.
		There were so many factors, so many horrible things going on all together.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, they say you're supposed to learn from history, but how the fuck are you going to learn from history if you actually take the lessons out of it?
		Right.
		I mean, this is an important thing here.
		You think about this right now with the stuff in the Middle East in the last 20 years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Every time we put an embargo on there, we are...
		We're not starving Saddam Hussein.
		We're starving the people in his freaking prison.
		So remember that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dave Smith was talking about that on a podcast recently, that during the Clinton administration, the embargoes starve to death 500,000 children.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		See, that's fucked.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And that's worth remembering.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And it doesn't – if having that conversation makes somebody call you a Holocaust denier, that person should be out of the conversation, in my opinion.
unidentified		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And like you were saying, academia is chock full of those kinds of fucks right now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they should be ashamed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They should be shamed by people who want to know the whole picture.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's the opposite of knowledge.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's certainly not condoning holocausts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so stupid to not be looking at everything.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		The good news is that people are waking up to this.
		A lot of people think just like us where they're objective enough to understand that like, well, that's silly.
		And so they're putting themselves in a corner in this echo chamber where people just aren't listening to them anymore.
		Like when it comes to like mainstream archaeology, we call it big archaeology, establishment archaeology.
		They're putting themselves into a corner where people like if you're going to if I'm going to ask questions about the swastika and you're going to say I'm spreading dangerous Nazism.
		Some people buy into it, but I've noticed that most people are like, no, he's asking a question.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have the internet now.
		We have shows like yours and yours and mine where you can have conversations about things and people get to see, oh, these people that are in control, they're all loons and they're all telling us that you have to think this one way or you're the worst person on earth.
		And I don't buy it.
		It's a dumb way to look at the world.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's un-American.
		Sorry to flag for a second.
		It really is.
		I live in a country where I can have somebody with their pronouns and their fucking bio and somebody not with their pronouns.
		We can both yell at each other and not have us end up in jail over it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's also this position that people have when they're teachers, when they're educators.
		And they have this position, you know, and I can speak to it a little bit from martial arts.
		Because in martial arts, when I first started doing martial arts, it was in the 1980s.
		In the 1980s, every discipline believed they had the very best discipline.
		All the judo people thought judo was the only martial art you needed to know.
		All the karate people thought karate was it.
		Taekwondo people, where I came from, they all believed in Taekwondo.
		And it took the UFC to slam everything together and go, oh Jesus, half of this stuff is fucking useless.
		And, you know, some of it's not useless, right?
		There were some things from, like, Jon Jones won the UFC heavyweight title this past weekend with a Taekwondo kick.
unidentified		It was amazing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That was unbelievable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I was so happy because that was my thing.
		So me watching him do that was like, yes, why aren't more people doing this?
		Like, you guys should have been doing this from the beginning.
		It's the most powerful kick in the sport.
		But you were in trouble if you trained in other disciplines.
		Like, Bruce Lee was a heretic.
		And he's probably one of the most important figures in martial arts, not just because he introduced people to it, like myself, who became martial artists because I was a Bruce Lee fan.
		He also combined all kinds of different martial arts, and that was Jeet Kune Do.
		He developed a style that was essentially, he took Western boxing, he took some Judo that he learned, and karate, and all these different techniques, and just tried to find what is the absolute best thing for just fighting.
		And that was, he was a heretic.
		Like, his life was threatened for that.
		And it's because the educators want to be the only people that can distribute information, and they don't want to be challenged.
		When I was in high school, I had a teacher.
		His name was Mr. Holman.
		He was a very nice guy, but he was a smart guy that wanted to be the only smart guy.
		And he was great talking to me because I was a stupid kid.
		But unfortunately, one day I had watched a documentary.
		And I've always had a very good ability to recall things.
		And we were in class and he was talking about the pollution in Lake Erie.
		And I had just watched a documentary about the extensive work that they had done to clean up Lake Erie and that they'd made these huge strides in removing pollution and crap and all these different things from Lake Erie.
		And he was talking about stuff that he had learned in school 20 years prior.
		And so when I was, I said, well, you know, there's a PBS documentary, and I brought this up in class, where there's been this extensive work, and they talked about the amazing accomplishments of cleaning up Lake Erie, and he got so mad at me.
		I'm like, you're not mad at me, man.
		You're mad at PBS. Like, I don't fucking do any research.
		I watched a documentary.
		But back then, you could say, you don't know what you're talking about, and I couldn't pull my phone out and go, oh, but what?
		Look at that.
		You can watch it, dude.
		These people have done amazing work cleaning up Lake Erie.
		But he didn't want anyone else to have any information.
		What he should have said is, that's fascinating.
		I haven't seen that documentary.
		Can you recall the name of it?
		Let's see if we can get it, maybe show it to the class.
		I'm going to try to do that, because that's great.
		That's a good sign.
		What I'm talking about is what Lake Erie had become because of industrial engineering, And because of pollution and waste that was coming from all these plants.
		So he was correct.
		But time had changed and he did not like that I knew that and he didn't know that.
		And I remember being in that class going, this is so crazy.
		This is my fucking science teacher.
		My science teacher doesn't want details.
		He doesn't want facts.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		This happened to me.
		So I was in the military years ago, and it wasn't long after I got home from Iraq, and I was going to warrior leadership course, which is to become an E5, a sergeant.
		And back then, they were teaching ABC, which is airway, bleeding, what was the other one?
		circulation, whatever, and for emergency medical response if someone's dying.
		And they had since updated where bleeding is the most important thing to focus on because soldiers were bleeding out.
		And during this warrior leadership course, they're teaching the class.
		30 people, wrong information, the sense outdated.
		I try to interject to say, oh, this is what they're teaching now.
		It was the same exact thing that happened.
		Stop!
		This is what's written down right here.
		I'm like, no, but that's not even what they're teaching in theater right now.
		This is medical emergency stuff that could save someone's life.
		And he didn't want to hear it one bit.
		I couldn't believe it.
		I was astonished.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He should have said, that's interesting.
		I did not know that.
		We need to update what we're showing you.
		These three factors are the same, but now we know.
		Thank you, Jimmy.
		Now we know that bleeding is more primary.
		That's the response of a real leader.
		And a real leader, you're always going to have blowhards in your class that are going to want to hear their own voice.
		They want to talk about stuff and chime in and correct people.
		But you've got to let a certain amount of that.
		And that's the Internet.
		And people don't like that.
		And that's why they wanted to ban people from Twitter.
		They don't like these people coming along that have ideas, like the Great Barrington Declaration, where the government actually conspired to get these people removed from Twitter.
		And we know that because Elon, thank God, bought Twitter and changed discourse.
		But this was a concerted effort to take these people who were brilliant people, who had degrees, were experts in this field that they were discussing, and they decided they were going to remove them because they didn't go along with the narrative and they were confusing people in a time Where they were trying to force vaccinations on everyone.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		The emotion side of it from the individual levels, like what you guys described, you have a teacher, the emotional reaction.
		That's a huge part of it, but when the...
		That's a huge part of it, especially with archaeology, because a lot of it's not really hard science.
		A lot of it's like, I've got this arrowhead here, and I've conjured up this story, and so now it's my story, and you're not attacking the science, you're attacking me.
		But it gets even worse when you look at it, what they get like this hate for Graham Hancock, in particular Graham Hancock.
		That makes it where it's like you can't trust a damn word that comes out of their mouth when they're discussing.
		Like if we were talking back to the martial arts, you know, one of the things that came out was Aikido was just ass.
		It's no good at all for like man-to-man combat.
		Was it for like samurais that have been knocked off a horse or some shit?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was designed to redistribute the energy of your attacker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So if someone's coming at you with a sword, if you don't have a sword and a guy swings a sword and you're fast enough to get away from the path of the sword and grab the guy's arm or body and manipulate him to the ground to remove his sword, It's essentially a disarming strategy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		So it's not the best thing in the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It just doesn't work against a wrestler.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Wrestling is way better.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you want to find out the best way to take a person to the ground and control them, we 100% know it's wrestling.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		The most ancient sport in the world.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That dates back to the Sumerians.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, in wrestling, I include judo.
		I include different forms of jujitsu that were ancient.
		Because these allowed people to manipulate limbs and to control joints, which allowed them also to take people down and submit them.
		But the point is...
		You had a bunch of people believing that this one goofy-ass martial art was the end-all be-all because of a good Steven Seagal movie.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And what my point was there is it's like you're considered pretty much an expert in martial arts.
		You're a professional announcer for UFC. You know your shit.
		So if I watched you say Steven Seagal, you know, his martial arts, it's fucking Akito, man.
		I don't know what to tell you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I would not do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I would tell you Steven Seagal was really good.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really good at Akito.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But if you hated Steven Seagal, if you were one of his many haters, you could just attack Akito without ever saying his name and just be digging him a ditch, right?
		You could just be burying him without ever mentioning Steven Seagal's name.
		You could just attack Akito.
		Akito is a shit martial art.
		It's not effective.
		It's not very good.
		And then by extension, you're making Steven Seagal look bad.
		Those are their favorite tactics to do to Hancock.
		They will attack.
		This idea is racist.
		It's inherently bullshit.
		They don't have to mention Hancock's name.
		They're so insidious this way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and connecting Hancock to white supremacy and aliens is the dumbest one.
		First of all, he never said nothing about aliens.
		Not only that, not only does he not think of it as white people built this stuff, he thinks it's the people that live there.
		But they lived there a long-ass time ago.
		It's the same fucking people.
		It's Africans.
		Whoever built the pyramids, they were Africans.
		Like, I'm an American.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let me just remind the audience.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Egypt is an Africa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is Northern Africa, and it's the most sophisticated construction we have ever witnessed on the face of the earth.
		Anybody that disagrees, you need to really study what they accomplished just in the Great Pyramid.
		It's mind-boggling precision.
		It's not just the incredible feat of moving massive stones hundreds of miles through the mountains.
		It's the mind-boggling precision of the construction of these buildings that It's so crazy.
		It's almost like they made it so nutty that even if everything dissolved and expired, it would give us at least some clue that maybe something happened.
		Maybe people had achieved a level of sophistication.
		And my thought is, and this is just a guess, is that as we move towards metal and we move towards...
		Using different kinds of combustion engines and electronics.
		We moved in a very specific area of technology.
		And we were allowed to do this because things have been relatively peaceful for a couple hundred years.
		Okay?
		Relatively peaceful.
		And also, there's war in other places, so it allowed us to spend our time here devising ways to fuck up people over there.
		That's the Manhattan Project, right?
		I think that's the avenue that thinking goes in and innovation goes in.
		And instead of combustion engines and electronics, you have something that we haven't even considered.
		And that to me seems like what Egypt is.
		It seems to me that they have this incredibly fertile area.
		So if people look at Egypt now, you're looking at all the sand and all the shit.
		That is not what it looked like.
		In the thousands of years before the construction of the pyramid, it was a rainforest, and it was fertile.
		And so my thought is these people probably had plenty of food, and so they didn't have to go anywhere.
		And so they weren't attacked that often.
		The Nubians conquered them, and that's when the statues started changing, looking more Southern African.
		But you have these people that live in this incredibly resource-rich place, and they were able to spend thousands of years there.
		And I think in those thousands of years, they devised methods that we still haven't even considered, because we went in a different path.
		And we can't consider any other paths.
		We consider our path, and we say, well, we're the furthest.
		We live today.
		Okay, so those fuckers in the past, they're basically cave people.
		Right?
		That's how we look at it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they look at them like dumb people playing with stones.
		They were silly.
		They used stones because they weren't smart enough to use metal.
		It's like when you look at the details of stone, it's like, you could say it's more impressive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, we wanted to talk about Gobekli Tepe.
		Gobekli Tepe is not just fascinating in its construction, but also in the timeline.
		Fucked everything up.
		I remember when Graham Hancock and Zawi Hawass were having that big debate with that other guy who's an archaeologist.
		The American guy is very smug.
		But he's like, what evidence do you have of a civilization that lived 10,000 years ago?
		Well, you have one now.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you have to shut the fuck up because you were wrong.
		So in the 1990s, a sheep herder finds this stone.
		He starts kicking it and moving it around and he realizes, wow, this is a big-ass stone.
		I probably bring in some smart dudes to figure this out and they start digging and they go, oh Jesus, this is these huge circles of giant stone columns with 3D carved animals on them at a time that we thought people were living in teepees.
		We thought people had stone tools.
		We didn't think there was any metal.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		We thought it had to be done the opposite way around.
		We thought you needed to be a hunter-gatherer, a farmer, and then you could build.
		And now they had to flip that entire shit on its ear.
		Well, actually, maybe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think they only flipped that shit on its ear to try to make it look like they were right about the timeline of hunter-gatherers.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I completely agree.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And to ignore the possibility of an ancient civilization before Mesopotamia.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I completely agree.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it's the only thing that makes sense.
		There's no way when you're just struggling to find food, okay?
		And if you've ever gone on a fishing trip or a hunting trip, it's fucking hard to get food.
		When we have modern stuff, it's hard to get food with a rifle, right?
		So these people were getting food and They somehow or another in between them while like running around trying to shoot rabbits with a bow and arrow They figured out how to make these massive stone columns and put them in position and and move them in circles and hundreds of them pretty great artists doing some relief carvings I mean, that's some that's not the same as just animals that were local to the area Just like what how do you even fucking know this is a thing?
		What is this?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So Gobekli Tepe, brother, if there is such a thing as an ancient conspiracy theory, it's this.
		So I remember hearing Graham Hancock come on your show back in like 2015 or 2017, and he was talking about Gobekli Tepe.
		And at that time, he had shared that the site was only approximately 5% excavated.
		It's the first video on my channel.
		It's like August 2017. And I share the details of it.
		These pillars dates back 11,600 years.
		It appears to be purposely buried at the same time of the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe.
		This is fascinating.
		And excavations were continuing.
		So I'm like, okay, I'm going to backburn this topic of Gobekli Tepe for a little while, let them further their excavations, and I'll revisit this later when there's something new to share.
		So earlier this summer, I'm like, all right, let me revisit Gobekli Tepe and see what's new there.
		And I was astonished to learn that that 5% figure was still the same.
		Have you heard this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've watched your videos on it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		YouTube channel, Bright Insight, subscribe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Undeniably strange.
		Your videos are undeniably strange.
		So here's some images where you can see what it kind of looks like along with this globalheritagefund.org story on it.
		So it shows 5%, 5%.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And that figure is still the same as of 2023.
		I had partnered – one, there's a lady who does tours there and corroborated the 5% figure.
		And then there's a gentleman named Hugh Newman who's an author and also leads tours.
		And he communicated with me that what they were going to do – and I couldn't believe this.
		They're going to defer a full-scale excavation for, quote, future generations with a 150-year estimated timeframe for a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe.
		And I'm like, wait a second.
		Are you serious?
		Like, this makes no sense.
		We're talking about Arguably, not just the world's oldest ancient site, but arguably the most mysterious because it's, like you were saying, it's not supposed to exist.
		Based on everything we were taught in school, it's supposed to be the Sumerians.
		And then you have the site of Gobekli Tepe, made up of sophisticated pillars and concentric circles.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At least 5,000 years older.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, almost 7,000 years older than Stonehenge.
		And Stonehenge is a mystery of itself.
		So I start googling and looking into the details.
		I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.
		How could they defer excavations for future generations when this may be the most important ancient site on Earth involving our mysterious lost ancient past?
		And so I started digging into this, and I couldn't believe what I found.
		So they were doing large-scale excavations, but that has since ceased.
		Just to clarify, they are still excavating Gobekli Tepe, but they have rolled and dialed back the large-scale excavations of the years prior, and they're focusing on conservation and tourism management of the site.
		And like I said, with a 150-year timeframe, and I'm like, wait a second.
		And I have all the screenshots in that folder.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Would this be because of funding?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
		So not only have they never claimed that it's related to funding, but this is where things get bizarre, is that there's a Turkish conglomerate called the Dogez Group, which consists of 250 companies within Turkey.
		It's a billion dollar industry.
		And they're the ones that took over management and funding of the site back in 2017. And they announced this at all places, the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos in 2016 is when they announced this partnership, initial funding of $15 million.
		At that time, they set up the infrastructure for tourism, roads, sidewalks, walkways, roofing platforms.
		And since then is when they dialed back the excavations.
		And I'm like, this makes absolutely no sense.
		So it has – let me just be crystal clear here.
		It has nothing to do with funding and they've never claimed it has anything to do with funding.
		But their excuses, they have said, one of which is that, well, we want to wait for future technologies to develop so we can more safely excavate the site.
		And I'm like, wait a second.
		Hold on a second.
		We're talking about pillars buried in dirt.
		It's 2024. Do not tell me that we do not have the technological capability to dig rocks up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What would be an alternative explanation?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So, okay, this is where things get fun.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Rabbit hole, here we go.
unidentified		I love fun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love a good rabbit hole.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let me say a couple things before I get into it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		One of which is that them saying that they're waiting for a future technology to develop to safely excavate the site, I'm like, what type of magical shovel or pressure, water hose are we talking about here?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Some vacuum, a dirt vacuum.
unidentified		Right?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And since they're saying that they're continuing to excavate the site today...
		Since they're saying to continue to activate the site today, I'm like, well, which is it?
		Are you saying that you're doing so in unsafe methods?
		And I already know that's not the answer because there's been no issue with destructing the site from digging it up.
		It's not like they broke a pillar and like, oh, dang, wait a second.
		We need to walk this back.
		We're not doing things safely.
		That's not the case here.
		So there are a few explanations here.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I want to hear.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So one of which is that I – the most logical explanation, this is the less conspiratorial one, which is that it has to do with money.
		You have this Turkish conglomerate of people that are saturated with members of the World Economic Forum.
		For example, the CEO of the Doges Group is a longtime member of the World Economic Forum.
		That may backburn the World Economic Forum for a half a second.
		They're business people.
		They took over the site and it's all about money now.
		Back in 2019, Gobekli Tepe had approximately 19,000 visitors yearly.
		Now it's at a half a million.
		They're focused, if nothing else, they're just trying to bring revenue in.
		It's all about money.
		Yeah, they don't care about X event and the rest of the site.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to bring 15 more million in revenue.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And they just want their money back.
unidentified		Okay.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		But I'm like, well, this is...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It does make sense.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'll weigh in on that real quick.
		Also, the mystery plays...
		That site is probably the second most popular place on the planet with people like ourselves.
		And the more mystery is there, the more money...
		We deal in mystery.
		So if they excavate everything and we know everything there is about that site and it's all super mundane and there's nothing cool about it anymore, that tit dries up and there's no milk coming out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but how could it ever stop being cool?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make any sense.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That one doesn't make any sense.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That's a Zahi Hawass kind of thing.
		He's of the same opinion where I think a lot of the same things, excuse me, happen in Egypt for the same reasons.
		Zahi Hawass is quoted with saying that those New Age people, it doesn't matter what happens in Egypt, the New Age people, they come.
		It's about tourism.
		You know, ever since the Arab Spring, tourism in Egypt's been lower.
		So I think a lot of the same, like we're going to talk in a minute about the hidden chamber in the pyramid that they've located and still haven't excavated for whatever fucking reason.
		I think that might be part of it.
		If you want to get super mundane and not conspiratorial, it's just a simple, The tourists keep coming while there's a mystery there.
		As soon as we open that up, it's just an empty chamber.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't buy that.
unidentified		Me either.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The mystery of the structures themselves that we have completely excavated is just so fascinating.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So let me be clear on Gobekli Tepe.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's somewhere between 5% and 10% excavated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So here it says some archaeological sites where only 10% or less have been uncovered.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		None of which date back anywhere near remotely as old as Gobekli Tepe.
		And so just to put this into perspective, Gobekli Tepe, according to ground penetrating radar, consists of approximately 200 T-shaped pillars.
		Only 72 of them have been unearthed.
		And as of just a few years ago, they're dialing that back to fully excavate them, which again, the 150-year time frame.
		And I'm like, this is entirely unacceptable.
		There could be hidden answers about our lost ancient past waiting to be discovered on these pillars because all the pillars are trying to tell us some sort of story.
		They all have depictions, animals, all kinds of things on there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's the shaman with the bag.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which is very interesting.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		We've seen that from the Sumerians.
		We've seen it in South America.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The bag thing is very fascinating.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It is.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's hotly debated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure.
		I mean, you could say maybe it's a tool bag.
		You could say maybe it's psychedelics he's got in that bag.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Academics say it says water.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's a water bucket.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You guys familiar with the work of Martin Swetman?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You guys familiar with the work of Martin Swetman?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I am not.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		He's the one that...
		He was on Ancient Apocalypse Season 1 for a minute.
		He's the guy who made basically a star map of that pillar 43. And in his opinion, those three handbags at the top were three sunrises.
		And if that's the case that would almost make sense because then they're like a picture of an Assyrian holding that would be like a holding of astronomical knowledge like this this symbol could have been a symbol of knowledge of astronomy.
		Which is one thing honestly about Gobekah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It could have been a book bag.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It could have been a book bag.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right?
		I mean it kind of makes sense.
		They probably had to travel around with their books.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So here's the thing.
		That pillar, that's just one pillar out of 200. And here we are debating.
		We don't even know what it is.
		It's all conjecture.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pull that up, Jamie, so we can see what that pillar looks like.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So this Gobekli Tepe situation is far more bizarre than we've described so far.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think the logical explanation, though, is that you have massive tourist revenue coming to see it as is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why spend more money and excavate these things?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I think that's the most- So this is the pillar- I think that's the most logical explanation, but it could be more insidious than that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that's one pillar.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That's pillar 43, the most debated one of them all, and there's approximately 128 more pillars that are still buried in the earth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's that bird doing holding the Earth?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Martin Swetman, his first paper on Gobekli Tepe's Pillar 43, he's got Scorpio on the bottom.
		He believes that's Sagittarius, that that's the Sun.
		Basically, it's a star map denoting the time that the comets smack the Earth, is what he believes.
		Each one of those Vs, his latest paper on it, each one of those V symbols is a day.
		Each one, in his opinion, each one of those boxes is a month.
		And there is basically a full year denoting the whole thing, the way he's broken.
		That's very interesting stuff.
		And one of the things that's wild to me, when we talk about the lack of further excavations, is almost every pillar we bring up has new symbols, new iconography.
		If we're trying to find some sort of ancient proto-language or something, we need more symbols.
		We need more things on Earth.
		And that's completely opposed by the mainstream archaeology.
		The idea that these guys had any sort of written language is fucking ridiculous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are the theories involved in...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know it's been theorized that it was purposely covered.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It really looks like it.
		If you look at pictures of the excavation, it looks like it was all piled in with stones and dirt because if it was some sort of natural event, it would have destroyed the pillars.
		The pillars are preserved.
		So it wasn't just blown in with dust.
		If you look at its gravel and like as Graham Hancock has explained that Klaus Schmidt, the original excavator of the site before his untimely passing in 2014, the people that have worked the site believe it was intentionally buried.
		That is debated in academia today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But isn't there also a carbon isotope dating of the ground soil that shows it's the same age throughout the entire – whatever feet it is of the dirt that's covering it?
unidentified		Yes.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And so it's very apparent that it was purposely buried.
		And what's interesting about that is that it coincides exactly with the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe.
		So if you want an alternative idea on – so OK. Could it be mudslides?
		No, because it would destroy those pillars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Knock them over at least.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I've seen that in Iraq with the statues.
		So we'll share – let's talk about this in a second.
		So this is where things get wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's before the excavation.
		This is an aerial photo.
		From what year is this?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That should be 2004. Yeah.
		No, no, excuse me.
		Before 1994. They started excavations in 1994, 1995. So that is when it was just dirt.
unidentified		Correct.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody thought it was just a regular hillside, which makes you wonder how many more there are out there.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're finding dozens of other sites around Turkey that are even older.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Even older.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		So let me tell you a few different things about Gobekli Tepe.
		When you bring up pictures of the pillars, notice how they all annotate animals on them.
		Now, this is a fun topic, and I have a few other things to share, one of which is that if you want to talk about reasons not to excavate it, I'll give you two possibilities.
		And this is just conjecture.
		I don't know what the answer is.
		Let me say this up front.
		But part of it could have a religious implication as well as a climate change implication.
		Let me start with that.
		So we know it is an established fact that the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe happened between 12,800 and 11,600 years ago.
		We know that there was vast changes in weather patterns throughout the Northern Hemisphere.
		The only part of it that's debated and as well as near extinction events or extinction events of many different mammals in North America.
		But What we know is that something happened, whatever it is, is what's debated, whether it's a cosmic impact, whether it's a pole shift, whether it's sun cycles, all kinds of conjecture all the way around.
		But when I mentioned the WEF, they are the biggest proponents of the man-made climate change narrative.
		They're the ones that want to get rid of gas-powered stoves.
		They want us to get rid of vehicles.
		They are pushing their initiatives around the world, and they believe that we're destroying the planet.
		I'm not saying they're entirely wrong, but I don't agree with their ways of going about it, but that's a side point.
		But here's the thing.
		When you look at the legend of Noah's flood and Noah's ark and the flood, so I'm not suggesting that there was a flood that covered every mountain on earth and nor am I suggesting that there was a boat that housed every species of animal on earth.
		However, if Noah's ark existed, many believe that it was crashed onto Mount Eret, which is also in Turkey.
		And something fascinating is that in the Bible, in Genesis 820, some of the first verses after Noah emerged from the flood is that he was said to have constructed an altar to the Lord where he sacrificed some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird.
		Gobekli Tepe is in Turkey, and every single one of those pillars annotates animals.
		And some have suggested that it could be Noah's altar.
		Now, that could be one reason why they wouldn't want to excavate it, is because Turkey is an Islamic country, and if there were some...
		Christian religious belief that was corroborated, they might not want that to happen.
		Another possibility is that the site itself might corroborate the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe.
		And when we're in a timeframe where they don't like talking academics, they don't like talking about cataclysms, they want to pretend they didn't happen, they want everything to be manmade climate change.
		They don't ever talk about the Sahara being green 5,000 years ago, like when you're talking about Egypt being a rainforest.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They find whale bones in the Sahara.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, Joe, those are 30 million years old, so stop talking about it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Whale bones.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing when you think about it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And so as far as the climate change narrative, there could be a possibility that they don't want the evidence of a prehistoric civilization that was more advanced than what we ever thought to believe that might corroborate some Christian narratives.
		And if nothing else, they don't want it to be brought into the discussion of modern day climate change because notice on the topic of climate change, they never mentioned natural stuff.
		They don't discuss the Milankovitch cycles, which consists of three variables, one of which is the Earth's precession.
		The other is the Earth's tilt.
		And the other is the distance from the Earth from the sun.
		All three of those variables are constantly changing every single day, although immeasurable day by day.
		They happen over tens of thousands of years.
		But each individual of those variables impact climate on Earth.
		For example, when I talk about the green Sahara, they believe the most likely reason has to do with Earth's processional cycle.
		I'm like, well, wait a second.
		Where's this in the conversation of modern day climate change?
		If we're talking about us destroying the planet, I would just like an answer as far as where these three variables are in the conversation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the Washington Post's very inconvenient data that they published about the temperature of Earth?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		No, please tell me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you find the Washington Post climate study, they found that we're in a massive cooling period.
		If you go back X amount of 100,000 years and you look at what's happening, it goes in cycles, but that's what it looks like now.
		Capture Zero's climate over the last 485 million years.
		Look at the dip we're in, and look how it's never static.
		It's down and up, and down and up, and down and up, all throughout the history of the Earth, which is measurable.
		It's not to say that we don't have an impact on it.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		We definitely do.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty sharp increase there, but yeah, still.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing, even if we didn't, but there's sharp increases in the past.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple other ones, yep.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple other ones, yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at 390 million years ago.
		Look at that giant peak.
		That's fucking crazy.
		That's straight up and down.
		It's always happened.
		It's not like it's static and then industrial engineering comes along and then you see this big increase.
		Oh boy, what are we doing to the earth?
		No, it's like even if we didn't do anything, we have no control over the temperature of the earth.
		And what's really terrifying, Randall Carlson talks about this all the time, is global cooling.
		That's what's really terrifying.
		When global warming happens, oh no, you gotta move out of Malibu.
		You gonna be okay?
		You gotta move to the places where it used to be cold and now it's warm because humans have always been nomadic.
		That's the whole reason why we're not in Africa anymore.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But global warming will fucking kill us all.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Global cooling will kill everything.
		Randall talks about this, that we came very close at one point in human history.
		We came very close to losing the oxygen that's required to literally keep life.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, will you bring up my Ice Age or Ice folder?
		So I have an update for you from the last time I was on your podcast.
		Go over to the graph.
		It should be one of the first slides.
		That one.
		Hang out right there for a second.
		So when I was on your show last time, Joe, I discussed – I said something very specific where I said I think the – this is with my exact words.
		I think the data might indicate that cold is more often than it's hot.
		And do you know what happened after that?
		I was going to send this to you, but I held off because you've seen enough hit pieces.
		So there was a hit piece done on me by Media Matters, which was funded by George Soros, and their networking of Vox and other – they did this hit piece on me to say that Jimmy Corsetti was on Gerald Rogan spreading climate change denial and inaccurate information.
		The only thing...
		If you could bring that back up, Jamie, please.
		The only thing that I said wrong is that I said the data might indicate that the Earth is cold more often than hot.
		Excuse me, no.
		The data absolutely, definitively shows that Earth is cold more often than it's hot.
		And what you're looking at here is straight out of the Utah Geological Survey.
		It's prestigious.
		It's found at the top of Google.
		And what you're looking at here is data from the last 450,000 years...
		Corroborated from data taken from ice core samples from Antarctica as well as Greenland.
		And what it shows is that not only are we in the middle of a three million year old ice age, there's something called glacials and interglacials.
		Glacials are where it's cold and the glaciers grow.
		Interglacials are where things warm and glaciers recede.
		What you're seeing here is four, arguably five interglacial periods over just the last five 450,000 years.
		So never mind hundreds of millions of years ago.
		What it shows is that the periods of cooling last seven to nine times longer than interglacials, which are periods of warming.
		And here's the fun part.
		Interglacials last anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 years.
		And our warming started 11,600 years ago, which means that we're already in the window for potential catastrophe for things to start cooling again.
		So when I was on your show last time and I was mentioning Elon Musk talking about Ice Ages being a deep, deep rabbit hole.
		Do you remember that?
		He was talking about it.
unidentified		Thank you.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know what he's talking about.
		It's this.
		It means that we're already in the window where things could start cooling again, and when it does, we're in a lot of trouble.
		I think, and I can't speak on his behalf, I would, God, I gotta tell you, next time, could you just text him and ask him if he thinks it's related to pole shifts?
		I need to tighten up my study on this, because I'm like, I think, because let me tell you something.
		Let me share something right now that you've never heard on this show before.
		You hear everyone talking about cosmic impact hypothesis.
		You hear people talking about sun cycles.
		Not a lot of people have been on here talking about pole shifts.
		Let me give a quick shout out to Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers.
		I recommend maybe you link up with him.
		Nobody has researched the topic of pole shifts and sun cycles as much as him.
		And he brought something to my attention I had never heard before.
		Jamie, the very first slide that you showed was of the Gothenburg excursion.
		So there was a partial pole flip right in the middle.
		See how it dates between 13,007 and 12,003?
		So the Younger Dryas started 12,800 years ago.
		And it's right in the middle of that ballpark range.
		It is established science that when geomagnetic pole excursions happen, it changes weather patterns on Earth as well as the ocean current.
		Jamie, if you want to Google, there's a space.com article titled that in 2025, some scientists are suggesting that the Earth's ocean currents may stop.
		Have you heard this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And nowhere in the articles do they mention anything about pole excursions.
		So people need to understand that we're already in the middle of a pole excursion, which is a partial pole flip, which means that things are shifting inside the earth.
		It's also known that that can cause changes in ocean current.
		Now, most mainstream articles, let me just be fair and tell you what they'll say.
		They'll say that, oh, no, it's related to man-made climate change.
		We're changing the currents of the ocean.
		I don't believe that.
		But don't allow.
		Don't let them take your data.
		Look at this.
		Nowhere in this article to explain why.
		But here's the thing.
		People need to understand that the number one thing that affects weather on Earth is, of course, the sun.
		The second thing is ocean currents.
		It's the reason why England is relatively temperate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go back to that, Jamie.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's the reason why England is relatively temperate is because the Gulf Stream flows up there and it keeps it relatively warm in comparison.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The way it says it here, key Atlantic current could collapse soon, impacting the entire world for centuries to come, leading climate scientists warn.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So just by saying climate scientists, you're already implying, at least, this is the result of climate change.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which further fuels this agenda that man-made climate change is the cause of all of our woes.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which is a narrative that you're consistently hearing.
		And again, to be real clear to someone who's going to say something about this, this is not to dismiss pollution.
		This is not to dismiss our impact on the atmosphere of the earth and what we're dealing with coal plants and all the bullshit that we're doing.
		For sure, we're doing bad things.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Also, if we weren't, We have no control over this thing.
		This thing is constantly moving and both of those things need to be looked at at the same time.
		The problem is this whole narrative of climate science has been adopted by these same fucking people that want Twitter pronouns.
		It's the same sort of thing, and if you have anything to say about it, if you want to talk about a swastika being an ancient symbol, now you're a Nazi.
		Now you're a climate denier, you're a vaccine denier, you're this or that, you're a Holocaust denier.
		It's like the same kind of stupid shit.
		And unfortunately with this one, this one is uniquely tied to money.
		This one is uniquely tied to green agendas and the enormous amount of funding that is going towards these green agendas and people that are profiting off of spreading this narrative.
		These philanthropic capitalists that are making hundreds of millions of dollars promoting this idea of climate change being our primary problem.
		And if you deny it, you're a science denier.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And the reason why you shouldn't listen to these people is because they're leaving out the key data involving Earth's historical climate data.
		They're not including all these other details.
		And so I think people need to look at pole shifts because it's very interesting in this alternative realm that you have people that are proponents of the cosmic impact hypothesis.
		You have Dr. Robert Schock with the sun cycles.
		You have other people talking about pole shifts.
		I think people should consider that all the above are correct and let me explain why.
		When pole shifts happen, Earth's shields are diminished.
		We're in the middle of a pole shift right now.
		The Earth's shields are diminishing, and it's been happening since the 1800s.
		It's been accelerating over the last few decades.
		This is scientific data.
		The North Pole is shifting at, like, almost 40 miles a year when it was half that just a decade ago.
		And when the Earth's shields diminish, we are more susceptible to cosmic impacts because— 40 miles a year?
		Google it.
		This is real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		It's happening.
		I had no idea.
		I thought it was feed a year.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Now, the mainstream will say, don't worry, it's still another thousand years away.
		And I'm like, they actually can't prove that because we haven't been alive to document a poll shift.
		But what I'm trying to say is that we should consider the poll shift thing.
		Brother, ask Elon Musk his thoughts on this sometime.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he actually just tweeted something about it recently.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		What do you say?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He tweeted something about the magnetic poles.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He tweeted something about...
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I think he actually retweeted the...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Core of the Earth.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		What's his face?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I forget his name, but you were just shouting out.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Ben Davison?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Ben Davison.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure he retweeted Ben Davison.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we need to find that out if that's the case.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because here's the He tweets so much, though.
		It takes so long to go through his tweets.
		I don't know how he has the time.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He does it too much.
		It's less effective because I'm like, I miss stuff.
		And I follow him closely, actually.
		There you go.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's Brian Crustle.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Solid rock, beneath which a vast ball of molten rock earth core, which generates most of our magnetic field, is 85% iron and moves independently from the surface plates, which is why the magnetic pole changes position.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I love Brian Romelli.
		If I'm saying his name right, we follow each other.
		He's a great guy.
		I think Elon Musk is giving a hint here because you remember how the northern lights were visible as far south as Mexico in the last few months?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was from solar activity, right?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But the reason why it's more visible now is because the Earth's shields are diminishing.
		This is – I'm not making – this isn't like from Bob's website.
		This is mainstream science.
		Again, Ben Davison has taught me a lot on this, and he was actually on with Alex Jones not long ago, and he really blew Alex Jones' mind.
		He vetted him.
		And so what I'm trying to say here is that like this is not being brought into the equation of man-made climate change at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, because of all the things we were talking about, the educators want to be the only ones that distribute the information and they don't want to look at the full picture.
		They only want to look at this one thing for the greater good of all of us.
		It's better if you just get people to only focus on getting an electric car.
		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I've always – ever since I started doing this stuff, I've had people that are like, hey, man, you fact-check scientists.
		We want you in the climate change debate.
		And I've always had the opinion of like, look, I'm talking about big old rocks and there's zero skin in the game.
		And if I'm wrong about that, nothing changes.
		But if I'm wrong about climate change and I get a bunch of people, I feel a little like it's...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not your area of expertise.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's not my area of expertise and there's too much skin in the game.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But when I did the debunking of Flint Dibble's debunking of Graham, the part about the metallurgy, I spoke with an ice core specialist.
		And now there ain't but a handful of these dudes on the planet.
		Literally just a handful of people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was a very important part of your debunking.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thanks.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You're the guy that blew the roof on that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You're the guy that contacted firsthand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's explain what you did.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, I spent an hour on a Zoom chat with a dude because what Flynn had said was that there was no proof of metallurgy in the Ice Age.
		And, well, of course, there's no proof of it, but he said that we can prove definitively there was no metallurgy.
		And that's where it's like, well, no, because they look for levels of lead.
		And levels of lead, that graph you just showed with the interglacial periods, lead follows that.
		Because when there's...
		More dust on the ground.
		The reason they believe is that more dust on the ground, more gets kicked up, more ends up in the glaciers.
		But that's the same dirt that would be kicked up if they were digging for iron, right?
		So either way, you're going to end up with more lead in the glaciers.
		So I talked to this ice core specialist for an hour on Zoom, and I'm like, man, so...
		Flesh this out for you.
		Explain to me.
		So he explains to me how they determine whether or not lead's from an anthropogenic origin or if it's natural, and that's based on if there's an archaeological site that they can match the other isotopes to.
		He went through all the troubles with it.
		He even lamented having—he's got other people in his field that are hardcore anti-pseudoscience because they're climate change deniers they're dealing with.
		And so he's all—and he's like, some of these guys are just too zealous, overzealous with it.
		I get where you're coming from.
		Then I put the video out, and Flint contacts the dude, and next thing you know, well, you know, I didn't exactly say it.
		He doesn't change what he says.
		He just kind of implies that I wasn't quite being accurate.
		He doesn't give a full anything.
		It makes it vague all of a sudden, and it's quite clear.
		He was pressured from a fucking archaeologist.
		He's a climate scientist.
		Why do you care?
		Because they're all part of the same little...
		Twitter keyboard warrior.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Twitter cult members.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And that right there changed my attitude on the whole global warming thing.
		I was like, that's probably accurate.
		And I was like, ah, you know, I don't fucking know.
		I'm going to have to dig into this some because I don't trust you sons of bitches anymore.
		I know that if somebody pressured him from upstairs, he would have crumpled like a bag because he sure did when Flint pushed him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So...
		The issue is that it's not like there's one explanation that could conceivably have caused this massive cataclysm.
		There's probably a lot of variables, just like there's always been.
		I mean, we always like to conveniently ignore supervolcanoes.
		When one of those blows, the whole world's fucked.
		The country's dead.
		Everyone's fucked.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You should consider the possibility that that's related to pole shifts as well.
		And I can give you a point.
		There's one that happened.
		You know, I've heard you talk about before the Toba super eruption.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that happened at the same time of a geomagnetic pole excursion?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
		Well, it makes sense.
		You're having all this movement.
unidentified		It does.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		There's movement inside the earth.
		A full pole shift is when they believe that the innermost portion of the molten within the earth core shifts.
		A geomagnetic pole excursion is a partial pole flip which they theorize is related to the outer portion of the mantle.
		The Earth's crust sits on top of molten everything, and when that shifts, it shifts our compasses, and it's not unreasonable to suggest that when something shifts inside the Earth, it would affect things on the surface.
		I touched on this in the last time I was on, but when it comes to earthquakes, as an example, Some originate in the crust, which is like 28 miles at its thickest, I believe, or on average.
		And others originate in the molten outer portion of the mantle.
		Well, if something shifts inside the earth, why wouldn't it cause issues on the surface, whether it be earthquakes or volcanic activity?
		And some volcanic activity involving supervolcanoes coincides with geomagnetic pole excursions.
		And so when I was on your show last time talking about pole shifts along with the ice ages, I was part of the same topic.
		Why is it that Media Matters, funded by George Soros, decided to do a hit piece on Jimmy Corsetti, the YouTuber?
		Brother, they came after me hard on this, which I, to be honest, I relished over.
		I was like, this is hilarious.
unidentified		I'm like...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they don't understand that it's actually good publicity.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It is, and it makes me feel like...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're not credible anymore.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right, and it makes me feel like I'm over the target, because what's that saying about you get the most flack when you're over it?
		So I'm like, it makes me think that I'm onto something, because nowhere in any of these climate change topics...
		You know, as far as like the narratives on it, do they mention anything natural involving whether it be pole shifts?
		They sure as hell don't bring up the green Sahara.
		They don't bring anywhere into the equation.
		They don't bring up the scientific fact that the earth was warmer 4,000 years ago.
		There's Nobel Prize laureates that have been speaking out about this.
		There's two of them.
		Dr. Clouser and there's another gentleman I'm going to draw a blank in the top of my head.
		But like they've shared this data.
		This is scientific fact and they're getting shunned and ridiculed for it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the problem is there's a consensus that's been politically accepted, and it's been talked about so much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a political talking point, and if they lose that political talking point, they lose a large percentage of their platform.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's so many parts of the liberal, the leftist platform that they need to have these narratives and one of them is climate change and that Donald Trump is a climate change denier.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The right-ring people are climate change deniers.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Ergo science deniers, ergo racists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's very, very, very, very stupid and it's bad for all of us because I think we all need to have an understanding of how delicate Our environment is, and how delicate life on Earth is, and that it is this constantly changing thing that has never been static.
		We know that.
		We know about the dinosaurs.
		We know about all these different things.
		We know about the Ice Age.
		But we don't truly have a comprehensive narrative that everyone accepts.
		It's become politicized.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's become politicized by the worst people because they're the cultists.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They're the ones that made, not the only ones, but, you know, I'm a lot less political than a lot of people in this community.
		And I said it when COVID first started getting bad and you could see it on the internet, I was real quick to say, man, we're going to be fucking locked down for years, guys.
		And everybody's laughing at me, but it's like, it's a political football.
		Neither side is going to drop a square...
		We don't live in a society of political compromise anymore.
		We live in a society of give them an inch, they take a mile.
		Neither side is going to concede one fucking inch on this, and we're going to be dealing with the same argument three years from now, and lo and behold, we were dealing...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what's crazy about this is that data has become politicized.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Science and data and knowledge has become politicized.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Over 80,000 papers were retracted last year.
		80,000 scientific papers.
		Like 60% of them were medical.
		The top 10 most still cited papers that have been retracted are all medical.
		The medical community is fucked right now from COVID. It turned in on itself and just started.
		And if you look at their papers and stuff, it's insane.
		They are all at each other's throats in all kinds of different ways, still citing retracted papers and all kinds of goofy little shit because it became a political football.
		We can see it on TikTok.
		You watch it.
		You watch a nurse come out there and she's going to do her little TikTok and you can just look.
		Is that a donkey next to her name or an elephant?
		If it's an elephant, she's going to tell you there's nobody in this hospital.
		It's fucking empty.
		If it's a donkey, she's going to tell you about the body outside, a machine outside making corpse starch out of the fucking dead people that they can't bury them as fast as they're dying.
		It's It was so openly, easily...
		The average Joe could look right through it.
		Could just see if this is a fucking...
		This is just an argument between the two parties, isn't it?
		They just transferred this to the medical problem.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you remember in the beginning days of the pandemic when they were really fear-mongering, when they gave a preposterous number of people that were going to die from COVID? Yes.
		And what was the percentage at the high point?
		Was it like 3.5% or something like that?
		Or was it 30%?
		It was something nutty.
		There's a compilation video, Jamie, see if you can find it, where they're dunking on Donald Trump.
		Because Donald Trump said, I've heard it's less than 1%.
		He was right.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He was totally correct.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Quite a bit less than 1%.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He was right about the UV stuff, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I think they were trying to say that it was 34%.
		I think that's what they were saying.
		It's 3.4 or 34. I can't remember which.
		But they were repeating it ad nauseum on television, that this was going to be the death rate.
		Of people that got COVID. It's one of the things that justified the lockdowns.
		If it really was less than 1%, people go, what's the flu?
		And then you get into the flu, you go, well, what's the percentage difference?
		It's like 50% difference?
		Okay, what are we doing?
		Is this a bad flu?
		Is that what this is?
		This is like a bad flu.
		But you can't say that or you're some kind of anti-science heretic.
		You're a terrible person.
		You're killing grandmas.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you want to mix it up, Jamie, there's a video.
		So last time I was on, I mentioned a clip of Donald Trump talking about it's going to get cold again.
		And we couldn't find the clip at the time, but I have it in my folder, Jamie.
		It's just Donald Trump.
		It's in the front with all the other folders.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One step at a time.
		Let's try to find that video of them all repeating the same thing over and over again.
		It's Brian Stelter, that little weasel on CNN, constantly repeating the fact that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's talking about.
		He was right.
		He was absolutely correct.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump doesn't just say things out of his butt like people make him out to believe.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying he doesn't talk in that way.
unidentified		He rants.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a ranter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're a ranter, it's like you're a podcaster.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You run the list of talking out your ass every now and again.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		But he wasn't talking out of his butt with the UV killing off bacteria and viruses.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No, he just said it in a way that wasn't logical.
		He said, like, you get the light into your body, and I was like, what is he talking about?
		But no, they figured out how to get LED lights into lungs to kill viruses.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Can you give me a little specific thing to look?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Because typing in Donald Trump COVID compilation video gives me a bunch of...
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		COVID death rate.
		Death rate is what's important.
		Death rate compilation versus the media.
		Because the media was the one that were dunking on him, and they were coming up with this ridiculously high rate that turned out to not be accurate at all.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think we have those people, those people, the leftists or whatever you want to call them, the Flint dibbles of the fucking world.
		These guys are...
		Like we're talking about with climate change and everything else, they don't want to leave anything in there that could let the other side have anything.
		They assume that the average rank and file Joe public is dumb as hell.
		I mean, one of the things they'll always say about ancient apocalypse, complain about, they'll be like, well, he goes on there and he talks shit about archaeologists and everybody's going to believe everything he says because it's so well made.
		It's like, man...
		He didn't do that at all.
		And in the first season, he did talk a little shit about archaeologists.
		But the bottom, to me, if I'm watching anything, I don't care what it is, if the person says, you know, mainstream scientists disagree with me here, but here's what I have to say.
		All my alarm bells go off, and that tells me I cannot hang my hat on what this motherfucker's saying.
		I gotta go Google it.
		That's what Graham does over and over again.
		Mainstream archaeologists disagree with me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So...
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		For them to say, everybody in the world is just going to believe this, it's nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it's 3.4%.
		So this is it.
		Give me some volume here.
unidentified		I've had a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I think the number is way under 1%.
unidentified		So to fact check, the World Health Organization says the coronavirus death rate is 3.4%.
		President Trump lies that the World Health Organization is wrong.
		The number is 3.4%.
		3.4% is what it's being reported.
		of the wrong.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My boy Sanjay.
unidentified		The death rate.
unidentified		The percentage is 3.4%.
brian stelter ▲ ● ▼		And no hunch from the president can change that.
unidentified		Lied about the most recent World Health Organization estimate that the global death rate of coronavirus is 3.4%.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
unidentified		The 3.4% death rate was wrong.
		And WHO data later updated it to Jesus.
		Let's go back into history.
		Trump has a hunch that the death rate is lower than 1%.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Way under 1%.
unidentified		Way under 1%.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Someone put a mozzarella stick in his stupid hole.
unidentified		Trump lied to viewers about the mortality rate.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Way under 1%.
unidentified		False information.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's spreading disinformation.
unidentified		Misinformation and dangerous.
		Disinformation.
		If you're president of the United States, you have the world's greatest scientists at your disposal.
		You listen to them.
		Leading scientists, including Dr. Fauci, wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine that the death rate could be considerably less than 1%.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Way under 1%.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See, we've seen enough.
		These people are fucking puppets, man.
		They're puppets and they willfully, gleefully repeat these narratives.
		And instead of saying, well, where did you get that information?
		Who are you talking to?
		Let's find out if that's correct.
		Why does the World Health Organization think it's 3.4%?
		Is there any nefarious intent behind this whole idea of it killing everybody?
		That's forcing some enormously profitable venture, like forcing everybody to take these fucking new vaccines that you guys developed.
		Could that be factored in?
		Maybe?
		Well, no.
		You only hear that it's factored in once everybody's profited and got out, including Bill Gates.
		Bill Gates, who's on television telling everybody to get the vaccine, you won't get COVID, and then afterwards, ah, it didn't work.
		After he had unloaded all of his stock, he wasn't effective, and it turns out COVID wasn't as bad as we thought it was.
		Well, you guys are really responsible for a bunch of people taking a medication that was unproven.
		You're responsible for all the side effects.
		You're responsible for all these, and you're responsible for fear-mongering, lying, closing down businesses, ruining economies, changing the political structure of the country.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They need to be held to account.
		I'm not going to forget this.
		And a lot of other people wouldn't.
		People's lives were destroyed.
		And it is, I mean, there needs to be a reckoning.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Elon recently said that his pronouns are still prosecute Fauci.
unidentified		I love it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He has a real possibility of making an impact.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, he does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they listen to him.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		When it comes to the economic side of it, I honestly think, out of everything, the jab notwithstanding, just strictly from a top-down perspective, those guys...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's the most immense transfer of wealth in modern history.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Amazon, Walmart, eBay, all these motherfuckers cleaned house.
		And you know what shut down?
		In Spokane, we lost White Elephant.
		This guy had started in the 40s after World War II. He would buy surplus and put it in this store.
		He had fishing wars for 30 cents, fucking Transformers from the 80s.
		I was buying in 2000 and selling them on eBay.
		He had all kinds of shit there.
		And he went out of business because he had to close his doors.
		Everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Restaurants in California.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You can't even go to fucking Walmart at 2 in the morning like we did.
		Everything's closed now at a certain time compared to where it was.
		Everything's changed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's hugely important because the coronavirus doesn't stay up.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't stay up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It goes to sleep.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And it doesn't exist when you walk to your table and sit down.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		All the homeless people need a place to hang out and so Walmart parking lot at 2 a.m., that's when they show up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I meant actually the opposite.
		The coronavirus comes out at night.
		But it doesn't even.
		The whole thing was so dumb because then they allowed Black Lives Matter protests.
		Like, what about six-foot distancing?
		Everybody's breathing.
		They're screaming.
		They're all yelling down the street.
		And you guys think that's not going to spread it?
unidentified		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And the brain-dead stuff behind this symbolism.
		I talked about this a long time ago on my channel.
		The person that thought of, oh, we're going to have this band play.
		Let's get them masks that have a big hole in it to show solidarity with everybody in the audience.
		That person's a fucking idiot.
		It's like, everybody's just going to look at that and be like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about people swimming?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		So we don't need masks.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Swim with masks on.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It hurts me to see those clips.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		COVID was one of the biggest IQ tests in modern times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was really a compliance test.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what it was.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It was a lot of compliance.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And check to see how many cowards there are out there that even though they know something to be true, are terrified of the blowback so they don't speak about it.
		And when you do speak about it, you do get attacked.
		You know, I obviously experienced that, and I was fascinated by it.
		I mean, it was kind of horrifying to watch, but also fascinating.
		Like, oh, so this is real.
		Like, you guys are just completely all lock and step and all full of shit.
		And you don't even care that I got better quick.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Brought to you by Pfizer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And you can watch how the world—you can see this from a world perspective, too.
		Different communities all around the world reacted differently.
		I remember— Lots of people, oh, why can't we do like Korea and Japan?
		Almost everybody's wearing a mask over there and they do all this reporting and all this stuff.
		It's like, yeah.
		You ever been there, man?
		You ever talked to any Koreans or Japanese people?
		Their fucking culture is lockstep compared to ours.
		There's no counterculture in those communities.
		Counterculture, people are all in jail.
		You have one community.
		So, yeah, they're told to do this, they fucking do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, though, our media is so compromised, so obviously compromised.
		And, you know, Kali Means has a really good point about this.
		He was saying that the reason why they spend so much money advertising on cable news is not because it's effective.
		It's because once they do that, now cable news cannot criticize them.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so much smarter.
		Because it's like, listen, we're spending all this money just to make sure that you guys toe the line.
		That's what they're doing.
		And so the news is not the news.
		It's only the news if an advertiser agrees that it's the news.
		And that's not good.
		No, it's really bad.
		That's not good for anybody.
		Left wing, right wing.
		If you think that somehow or another money gives a fuck about your political persuasion, It's so stupid that it got attached to a political ideology and from the most compliant of people.
		Those are the ones who are the most willing to go along with the narrative because the consequences on the left of coloring outside the lines, they attack you so hard.
		They crush you so hard, like this martyr-made situation.
		Anything.
		Anything where you're stepping outside the line to talk about it.
		Like what you experience just discussing something that turns out to be absolutely correct.
		They fund a big hit piece about you, which essentially acts as an advertisement for you.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It just builds your channel.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's the Streisand effect.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Then people go to your channel and go, this guy's great.
		Fucking show's awesome.
		This is interesting information and just undeniable facts, the undeniable facts that no one can discuss, no one can debate in any way, shape or form the actual size of these stones, where they came from.
		This is not under debate.
		So just the undeniable stuff is unbelievably fascinating.
		And then when they go to your channel, they go, where's all the Nazi shit?
		I heard this guy was a Nazi.
		I'm looking for some Nazi shit.
		I'm just getting facts.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You know, we should go back to Gobekli Tepe, Ganung Padang, and the Great Pyramid because there's some more stuff involving archaeology and lack of excavations that are actually pretty significant.
		So going back to Gobekli Tepe, one of the photos that, Jamie, that you showed earlier was before excavations began, and do you notice that there was no trees there?
		So one of the controversies is Is that there's some 800 trees that were planted on the site a full decade after excavations began.
		And the trees are planted on top of ancient ruins, which stand to not only destroy the ruins, but also highlights that they can't excavate what's underneath them while the trees are there.
		And so here's the before and after.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what's the conventional explanation for why they planted all these trees over a site that they know is filled with ruins underneath it?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So when this property – this was a property owned by farmers and the Turkish government wanted to purchase the land for them and the owners felt that they were being low-balled.
		So what they did was they planted olive trees on top of the site in order to increase the value of the land, which for me, when I first heard this, I'm like, I don't understand.
		This doesn't make sense to me.
		Gobekli Tepe has already priced this.
		It's the world's oldest and most mysterious ancient site on earth.
		It's priceless.
		Now, to be fair, and Dan, you've harped on this, and I really agree with you.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's government stuff.
		If the feds are going to buy your land for a highway, they don't care what's underneath.
		They don't care if it's an Indian burial ground or what.
		It's what's this land worth in this city, this kind of property.
		So they made it an orchard instead of a desert.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Now, here's the thing, though.
		Of all things, they planted olive trees, and there's something that was enacted.
		It's called the Olive Law in Turkey in the 1930s, where it's illegal to cut down olive trees in Turkey.
		Right.
		So I'm like, well that's interesting.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And let me ask you this real quick.
		Imagine being the owner of that property and you've got this, you've found these ruins here, you've got all these people coming out, they're paying you money to check shit out, you're selling all kinds of stuff, and now the government's gonna take it from you.
		You've had it for ten fucking years, now the government's saying it's theirs.
		So you go out and you start planting trees.
		So when you dig a hole to plant that tree, you find an artifact.
		Do you put that in the pile of artifacts to hand to Klaus Schmidt, or do you put that in the pile to sell to the antique collector that's not going to tell anybody?
		Obviously.
		He's pissed off.
		My opinion is that guy sold a ton of fucking artifacts while that was going down.
		Why wouldn't you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, are there artifacts connected to Gobekli Tepe?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they find stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what kind of stuff?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		No pottery or anything, but they have found, like, one of the biggest things is a bunch of chunks of stone.
		Like, to archaeologists, even, they call a microchip, which would be like a tiny little piece you get from, that's still technically an artifact.
		So there's a lot of that kind of stuff.
		There are a lot of bones that have been charred and things like that.
		But there's nothing too terribly amazing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No tools?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, nothing too crazy.
		But again, that's the kind of stuff that would possibly, you know...
		This is where my skepticism can get a little cynical.
		You know, I'm of the opinion if the Antikythera mechanism would have been identified as what it is when they pulled it out of the ocean, they would have never made it to a museum.
		That there was somebody...
		I was telling Jim last night we were having dinner, if the reports of giant bones that you see in the 1930s from guys that were over in New Mexico and they're bringing them back to the Smithsonian and they just never made it there, if they really did find giant bones, which I'm skeptical of, but if they did, this is probably an advertisement to sell them while they're traveling these things across the country.
		Oh, you know, just happened to lose them along the way because this dude came over and bought them.
		This has been a problem since day one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially when you think about those kind of like Crazy, old-school Rockefeller-type billionaires who really love to control information and everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you have access to something that just undeniably throws the whole timeline into a question or throws a narrative of human beings into a question.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Now you've got some power with that little artifact, don't you?
		I'm of the opinion that that's been a problem.
		I don't believe in the Dendera light.
		I assume you know what the Dendera light is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you glossed over the Antikythera, how do you say it?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		The Antikythera mechanism?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Antikythera.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That one is fascinating.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy, ain't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that is, how old is it?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's like 2,000 years old, 3,000 years old, something like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		2,000 years old.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a hand-carved brass machine that you use to, it tracks the cycles of the moon, the earth, and different planets in our solar system.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's brilliant.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they didn't know what it was, and they found it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was like some Corroded up gears and then they start doing some sort of a I mean, I don't even know how they did it how they Understand all the different pieces of it because it's all corroded together But they use some sort of scanning mechanism correct to and see if you can find what it actually looks like Yeah, you can buy replicas of it nowadays.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They make little boxes of the damn thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what it looked like when they found it Yeah, but now show what it looks like when they've done a scan of it.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I just stumbled across something interesting too when the guy found it he Heap of dead naked people.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Whoa!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whoa!
		He emerged from the sea, shaking in fear and mumbling about a heap of dead naked people.
		He was among a group of Greek divers from the eastern Mediterranean island of Simi who were searching for natural sponges.
		They had sheltered from a violent storm near the tiny island of How do you say it again?
		So see if you can find what this mechanism looks like, what it actually looks like.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's a replica.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so this is the replica of this thing.
		This incredible piece of engineering from 2,000 years ago, where all these gears and all these planets and you could figure out where everything was.
		How?
		How?
		How'd they do this?
		How'd they do this?
		And this is beyond what we ever thought was available back then.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		No, there is a YouTube channel that a guy goes through.
		I forget his name, but he does go through and he makes one of these with old school tools, but he's making each gear by hand.
		He's making the wire by hand.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that guy's a dork.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		He's a dork, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bring him on the show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Greatest possible version of a dork.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'm eating a good But it is fun to watch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Incredible, though.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But at the end of the day, that's interesting to be able to recreate it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But the planning of the thing, that's really where the engineering, the mathematics.
		And then you have to take into consideration, what is this based on?
		What knowledge was available back then that we did not think was?
		So we're talking about 2,000 years ago.
		This is the time of Christ.
		We did not think that they had any kind of machines that were in any way similar to that thing.
		What else don't we know?
		What else is lost?
		How much of that stuff is gone?
		Like, if this is 2,000 years ago and it's that corroded, what does 10,000 years do to it?
		Right?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it'd be dust at the bottom.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And the fact they even found it at the bottom of the ocean is a miracle in itself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is what's important to understand.
		And this is another lie that Flink Dibble told about the number of shipwrecks that have been fined.
		Not only that, but what would be left over after just a few thousand years.
		And that when they find these...
		1,000-year-old shipwrecks, they don't find any wood anymore.
		You just find the pottery.
		So you just know where the shipwreck is because there's a bunch of gold on the ground and some pots.
		But if you go back 10,000 years before that, how much has the surface of the floor of the ocean shifted?
		How much of that stuff has been covered up?
		How much is it...
		10,000 years is so long.
		Now, what if it's 20,000?
		What if it's 30,000?
		To say we don't know is the correct thing.
		It's the correct thing to do.
		And that's what nobody wants to do.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's a hypothesis.
		It's more of a mental...
		I forget the name of what you call it.
		Like a mind teaser.
		Like a way to make your brain think.
		It's called the Silurian hypothesis.
		The Silurians are a doctor who...
		Monster that supposedly lived on Earth like millions of years before humans wake up one day and they find all these monkeys running around.
		They decide they don't like us.
		But the hypothesis is, how would you determine if there was a species or an advanced civilization that lived on the Earth a million years ago, five million years ago?
		As soon as we have fossil fuels, as long as we had the first bit of oil had been created on the planet, you could have a civilization like ours.
		So what would you look for?
		The only conclusion is maybe nuclear stuff.
		If they test it, like maybe a nuclear power plant, we might still be able to find some radioactive material.
		But beyond that, not a goddamn thing.
		After 10 million years, you're going to find a fucking bit of it.
		That's what their conclusion is.
		And this is a scientific thing.
		This is a thought tool.
		That's what it's called.
		It's something that they use in science, in archaeology and history and stuff, presumably, to...
		To look at that problem.
		But these guys, like Flint, obviously didn't do that.
		Like I said, he thinks people are stupid.
		He said, right here on, sitting in this room, that, oh, well, you know, it doesn't matter how long something's underwater.
		You might think that it matters how long something's underwater, but it really does.
		It's like, are you fucking kidding me?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course it does.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Anybody knows that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course it does, just in terms of whether or not you're going to find it.
		They haven't done, like, a comprehensive LIDAR scan of the bottom of the ocean floor.
		They just have not done that.
		That's not possible right now.
		But if they did do it, who fucking knows what they'd find down there?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's where things get nuts is that here we are talking about things as far as tens of thousands of years.
		So we do have a site that Graham Hancock highlighted in Season 1 of Ancient Apocalypse called Ganung Penang in Indonesia.
		And Jamie, I have a folder on this.
		So this pyramidal structure could potentially be 27,000 years old.
		It's hotly debated.
		But as Graham Hancock highlighted...
		There is a subterranean tunnel and chamber which may have those dates, and it's not being excavated.
		And a geologist, Danny Nanabajawa, I never pronounce it correctly, forgive me, Danny.
		But he is a geologist that analyzed the ground-penetrating radar, and he said there's strong likelihood that it's man-made.
		Now, the skeptics, the academics will say, well, it's probably just a lava tube because the structure is volcanic in nature.
		But something interesting has happened that back in 2014, the Indonesian government said that they were willing to allocate unlimited resources and funding to excavate the site.
		Something shifted a handful of years ago where they're not excavating it now.
		And as of today, there's no plan in place to find out what that subterranean chamber is.
		So if it was indeed manmade, we don't know.
		It could be natural.
		It could be manmade.
		But we're never going to know what it is until we go digging.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What we do know for sure is that people occupied the land above it after that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		100%.
		That is a man-made structure.
		It was volcanic in nature, but they terraced it.
		It's a pyramidal-like structure.
		It's not a pyramid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And we do have examples over and over again of truly ancient things, unexplainable things, where people built more crude versions above it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		All over the world.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		All over the world.
		The lava tubes, there's all kinds of places in South America where they have a big pyramid built on top of a spring.
		The lava tube could have been a cave that was sacred that they just kept embellishing and kept embellishing and kept embellishing, saying it's just a lava tube, not a man-made tunnel down there as a non sequitur.
		Anybody who knows anything about ancient history could understand how a sacred site could have a pyramid built on top of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's take a bathroom break and we'll come back.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so where were we?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		We were about the lack of excavations at Ganong Panang, and this should segue into something that's very, very interesting, which is the Great Pyramid of Giza.
		I've already said that Gobekli Tepe is arguably not just the oldest, but the most mysterious ancient site on Earth because it's not supposed to exist.
		However, the Great Pyramid of Giza, I would say probably trumps it from the standpoint that it's just so mysterious, its sophistication, as well as the fact that we have no idea how it was constructed.
		And it's arguably the most debated structure in all of human history for two standpoints, one of which is that so many people debate on whether it was built to be a tomb for the pharaohs or whether it was some sort of lost technology and had some other purpose, whether it's energy or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like Christopher Dunn stuff.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Which is a fascinating topic and I'll have a story involving me visiting it there with a certain person that really is – it's a story in itself.
		But let me say this.
		So there – back in – eight years ago, back in 2016 through Muon Technology, they discovered that there's a hidden chamber in the Great Pyramid which is massive.
		Jamie, I have a folder on this, Great Pyramid Hidden Void.
		And it was established in 2017 through a scientific study.
		So we're talking seven – discovered eight years ago corroborated – or eight years ago corroborated seven years ago in a study.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		No Egyptologist debates it at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that a rough interpretation of the shape?
unidentified		Yes.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They don't know the exact shape of it.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They have an approximate size and an approximate shape.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So now many theorize that it is a second so-called Grand Gallery.
		It was originally thought to be 30 meters long.
		Now they have it at over 40 meters long, so almost 150 feet.
		And it is above the so-called Grand Gallery.
		And so when they first discovered it, Zahiwas came out of the woodwork and like denounced it and said, this is nothing, you know, you know.
		And they said they're going to spend a few years debating with the international community on how to go about it.
		Brother, that was seven, eight years ago, almost rounding up to a decade.
		And as of today, there is no plan of any kind to go in and find out what's in there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they would have to go through the walls to get to it?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		No.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Actually, brother, they could just drill a half-inch diameter hole and set a little tube camber through it, and they could figure out what's in there by the end of the week.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Get an endoscope right there, just like when you go to the doctor.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And here's what's so important about this.
		Like, we're talking about the most debated and arguably the most important structure in all of human history.
		Was it a tomb?
		Was it a lost technology?
		We have no idea how they even built it.
		That's the only thing that's more debated than that is how did the Egyptians construct the pyramid?
		So many theories have already been debunked on it.
		We just don't know how they did it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		2,300,000 stones that were supposedly all put in place within 20 years.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		The 20 years part, I've referred to that as like the gateway drug to becoming a pyramidion.
		That 20 years thing is the stupidest fucking thing.
		Any guy who's ever stacked bricks for five minutes knows that is absurd.
		But they just run with that because, you know, you can't—that's one of the weird things.
		The written record is more robust to them than the actual, like, science.
		Like, the carbon dating for the pyramid and the written record are a couple hundred years off.
		All in the entire Fourth Dynasty, the carbon dating is a couple hundred years off.
		They just come up with some explanation for it and stick to that written record.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, my favorite is when they look at the hieroglyphs that depict pharaohs from 30,000 years ago.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're like, oh, that's all bullshit.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		A little further down, this is important shit here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think that the 30,000-year mark is bullshit, but the 5,000-year mark is legit?
		That is really weird, guys.
		It is.
		Why are you conveniently ignoring all this other stuff while validating the more recent stuff?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Because it contradicts the textbooks they already wrote.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It contradicts the educators.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That dynamic, sorry, really quick, that dynamic, you mentioned Christopher Dunn, when he saw one of my recent videos about two months ago, me and him are going to start, he's going to come on my channel and each artifact that he's covered, we're going to discuss one at a time.
		He knows I don't believe in ancient high technology and he told me, basically to summarize what he said is that he is tired of having either yes men or cynics.
		He wants somebody that doesn't agree with him to sit down and have a conversation about these things and that'll be honest and we can actually get somewhere.
		It was like the guy had been waiting 40 years for me.
		I had a fucking GED and I worked as an electrician.
		I should not be the one sitting in the chair next to the man.
		But all the people qualified to do it want to treat him like he's an idiot.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And his theory is very fascinating.
		It was some sort of a power plant generated hydrogen.
		And it's feasible.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's wild.
		And I got to tell you, you know, when you walk through the Great Pyramid, there's nothing about it that resembles anything like a tomb.
		It seems like it was some sort of industrial function that had a function of some kind.
		So here's a story.
		And I have his permission to share it.
		So I had the – the only thing more wild than the topic of the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations is the diverse nature of people that are into this topic.
		So I had the pleasure of connecting with George St. Pierre.
		The GOAT, the legendary UFC fighter.
		And because of him is how I went with him to Baalbek.
		He had unique connections and I was able to go with him and we had connected.
		And then I went with him from there to Egypt.
		And we went inside the Great Pyramid.
		It was his first time in there.
		And we basically tipped the guard.
		I'll just say it.
		And we had the King's Chamber alone to ourselves for a few minutes.
		And we were with Yusuf Awian, who's the son of the late Akim Abdel Awian, who was the mentor of John Anthony West.
		And he was in the pyramid code.
		And so George laid in the so-called sarcophagus.
		And Yusuf did the om.
		I can't do it, but you do it with your throat.
		And he does it inside the box.
		And it makes the whole granite box vibrate.
		It's wild.
		It's the reverberation off the stone.
		So he did that to George.
		George laid in it.
		And he did it for about a minute.
		So George comes out of the box.
		His eyes were wide open.
		And he said, yeah, there he is.
		He said, I'm coming out of retirement.
		I'm going to win the title.
		And he just started pacing around the room.
		So fast forward three, four hours later, I'm in the hotel pool with him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What year was this?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Just last year, September of 2023. And just to clarify, at that time, he was considering doing a grappling match.
		That's not what he was talking about.
		He was talking about winning the UFC world title again.
		So fast forward a few hours later, I'm at the hotel, the Mina House, Marriott hotel pool with the pyramids overlooking us.
		And I'm like, hey, George.
		You said you were thinking about coming out of retirement.
		And he's like, I love his accent.
		No, Jimmy, I'm not coming out of retirement.
		And I said, well, what made you say that?
		And he's like, he thought about it.
		He's like, it's just how I felt.
		So just to clarify, arguably the GOAT, although him and Jon Jones, you know, they're comparable, just different, but the GOAT. And his first inclination out of coming out of the box with his eyes wide open was, It was like, I'm coming out of retirement.
		I'm going to win the title.
		And I asked, and he's like, no, I'm not going to do it.
		It's just how I felt in the moment.
		And I'm like, when people talk about it in the context of it being some sort of energy device, some people have speculated that with all these legends of humans living to hundreds and even thousands of years, some people have proposed that maybe it was a DNA restoration.
		I have no idea what it was.
		I just don't think it was a tomb.
		I think it was something else.
		I think it was a functional structure of some kind.
		But the fact that someone like him, with his history and his accomplishments, the fact that that was the first thing that he felt coming out of that box after doing the reverberation thing, is a story.
		I don't know what to make of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that's normal.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think a guy like that has always got it in the back of his head.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, that's the highlights of his life.
		When he was conquering everyone in the welterweight division, he was the greatest fighter on the planet Earth.
		It's the highlight of his life.
		So anytime he gets an elevated feeling, I'm sure that's one of the reasons why a lot of old fighters, they drink a lot or they do drugs.
		I think they're trying to...
		They experience highs that most people could never imagine.
		And I think whenever they experience a new high, some new thing, they get in their head, I'm making a fucking comeback.
		And they want to chase that dragon.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They get in the ring with Jake Paul.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That probably had more to do with money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's just this thing that just is in every one of those people.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that makes sense.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Although, the fact that he's laying inside the Great Pyramid, and you would almost think that'd be the furthest thing from his mind at the time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, it's an elevated experience.
		That's right.
		So it's an elevated experience.
		It makes him very excited.
		And when a guy like that is very excited, he thinks about the most exciting thing he's ever done.
		He's like, I'm going to fucking go do it again.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		We've got to get you in that box.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		We've got to get you in the Great Pyramid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to go in the box.
		I'd like to go there.
		I really would.
		It's just a matter of carving out the time.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I really have to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially, let's see what happens with the world.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The world just keeps getting sketchier and sketchier in certain parts of the world.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Sadly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sadly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it would be nice to be able to visit.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Going back to the point of this hidden chamber.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why would you not want to explore that?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It makes no feasible sense.
		Let's just say that, well, first of all, whether it was a tomb or something else, we could find out by going in there.
		Maybe there's a pharaoh in there.
		Maybe we would instantly know that, okay, all this conjecture and debate has now been put aside.
unidentified		We know that there could It's where they stashed the dude for real.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And here's something else.
		A lot of conjecture as far as a lost technology.
		Could there be some sort of evidence of a tooling on how they constructed it?
		Could there be evidence on how it was constructed itself?
		Even if it's a completely empty room and nothing else, we still would have learned something new.
		In fact, I've joked to other people like, hey, they could turn this into a pay-per-view event.
		I bet you 100 million people around I was just thinking.
unidentified		Yeah, I know.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		But even if there's nothing in it, even if there's nothing in it, it's still a win because we will learn something new.
		And it is, look, the academics will say, well, we don't want to damage the pyramid anymore.
		I'm like, okay, I respect that.
		But the thing is already a wreck.
		They use tons of dynamite to blast their way in it.
		The casing stones are all blown off.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They drill holes in it on the regular to check things.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's not...
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I don't—so between Gobekli Tepe not being fully excavated, Ganung Padang, as well as the Great Pyramid, arguably the three oldest and most mysterious ancient sites on Earth for some reason are not being appropriately excavated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't there a chamber underneath the Sphinx as well?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a ton of— Yeah, there's something there, but they're not—it's— Smaller?
		It's smaller, and Zahi Hwa stuck his nose down in the tiny little chamber that's down there.
		They say that there's supposed to be something more there, but, like, that's— Dicey as far as what they know for sure.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They have never released any photos or video of any kind underneath the Sphinx.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So it's like, okay, just stick a camera in there with a flashlight and show us that there's nothing in there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or just show us what is in there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Show us the walls.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They say there's nothing in there.
		I'm like, okay, show me what nothing looks like.
		Look, I'm an outsider in this, and I have an inquisitive mindset.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're a human being on planet Earth, and you're a part of history.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
		Every single person alive has an inherent right to know the true history of our origins and I don't care what country you're born in because people have come after me like you it is none of your business what's happening at Gobekli Tepe you're not a Turkish citizen and I say excuse me it is a they elected for it to become a World Heritage Site so they have thrown that out the window it is It's everyone's business.
		It surely is.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That's a silly argument.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a silly argument.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make any sense.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You don't have any place to weigh in on Nazi Germany because you don't live in Germany.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's the people of Earth.
		It's like we have a very fractured understanding of the history of the people on Earth.
		Gebekli Tepe is an excellent piece of evidence that points to that.
		We don't really understand why they did it or who did it.
		And there's probably more of those things out there that we missed.
		The Sahara Desert is the greatest example.
		If they did some sort of very comprehensive examination of the Sahara Desert, like say, if technology advances to the point where they can do some really comprehensive underground scanning of that entire part of the continent, who fucking knows, man?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Only 5% of the Sahara has been studied, as far as, say, with the use of LiDAR technology.
		They're using it from space, and they keep finding new structures that are prehistoric.
		They don't know who made them or when, and throughout the Sahara.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They use it from space?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They use LiDAR from space?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's called archaeology from space, and they use satellites.
		So this is what's interesting, is that they can use satellites with LiDAR that can penetrate, like, I might be butchering this, but I want to say 10 meters.
		I could be off on that, but it's a substantial amount of depth.
		From a satellite penetrating through dirt.
		I'm like, who would have thought that could even exist?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty amazing.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We have good evidence that they didn't have that.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		No, they probably didn't have satellites.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I guess their orbit would decay after a while.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it'd fly back into it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because ours do.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You know, a couple things about Ganong Padang worth mentioning.
		When they were excavating like mad, the president was of the same opinion that Dr. Nadi Wajawa wrote a book even like Plato was right and Atlantis is in Indonesia.
		So the president of Java back then believed that that was the case, so he was throwing money at it.
		When he lost his bid to be re-elected and somebody else took over, he was the one that shut everything down.
		He's in more lockstep with the archaeologists and stuff, the mainstream guys.
		So that's one of the reasons it was a changing of the guard is why all of it just stopped.
		So one guy was into it and the next guy ain't.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me – okay.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You just opened up the window.
		Here we go, Jimmy.
		So the WF conspiracy – it is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
		I am not at all convinced that there's something here with them trying to suppress ancient history.
		Let me be clear.
		But there is a correlation between what's going on at Gobekli Tepe and Ganung Penang that the minister – so this is a government position.
		The minister of technology, education, research, and technology, something along those lines in Indonesia, this gentleman came into power I believe in 2018.
		His name is Nakim or something Nakaram.
		I have a slide of him in my Ganung Penang thing.
		He's a global shaper within the World Economic Forum, and he is the head decision-maker of excavations that would or would not happen, this gentleman, at Ganung Penang.
		Now, let me be clear.
		I'm not saying he's suppressing it.
		And I'm not saying that the WF is trying to suppress our ancient history.
		All I'm sharing here is that it just so happens that the gentleman that's in charge of decision-making – Let me be clear.
		I said it earlier.
		They went from saying that there will be unlimited resources and funding to excavate Ganong Penang.
		It stopped.
		And as of right now, there's no plan and place to do it.
		And I'm just sharing that the person who would make that decision or has the power to do so happens to be a global shaper.
		Klaus Schwab, the former head of the World Economic Forum, I have a video of him gloating about how they've infiltrated government cabinets, the media, all over the world, and are enacting their initiatives.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		With our young global leaders.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They've infiltrated the cabinets.
		It's very good.
		You can even see bugs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the photo of him in the bathroom?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		No, I would love to.
unidentified		You didn't see?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		No, please show us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We have a photo of him in our bathroom here with the fucking crazy Darth Vader outfit on.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That was bizarre.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was just the wackiest fucking outfit ever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so on the nose.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're an evil supervillian.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He looks like a James Bond villain.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, more crazy than that.
		Like, more crazy than a Bond...
		See if you can find that photo.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		More crazy than a Bond villain.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like a Star Wars villain.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like some...
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He's a Sith Lord or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to be a crazy person to put that fucking thing on and go out in public unless it's a Halloween costume.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's a bizarre outfit for you to wear...
		And if everyone's worried about these secret societies and people that are in control and pulling the strings of the world, what are they worried about?
		They're worried about fucking crackpots that dress like this.
		That's what they're worried about.
		Eyes wide shut parties.
		Like that kind of shit.
		You got that photo?
		It's fucking crazy!
		That photo, right there.
		That's the one we have in the bathroom.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In front of the podium at the World Economic Forum.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is that fucking photo?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is that outfit you're wearing, sir?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That looks like something from some, like, 1970s dystopian film.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		100%.
		Like, Metropolis or something.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Death Race 2000, the original one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what the fuck is that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That outfit's so crazy.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Imagine someone...
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I think it was having to do with the event they were at, though.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He got an honorary doctorate.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		This was at a university somewhere in Europe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking crazy that that's what you wear there anyway.
		Like, what are you doing?
		You're dressing like a druid.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, they even got a magic card of him.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird, bro.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Look at that other outfit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that fucking outfit.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's AI. Oh, AI generated.
unidentified		Okay.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So when I look at Gobekli Tepe, involving my little WF conspiracy idea, it is a bit bizarre that that partnership with the Doge's group was literally announced at the annual World Economic Forum meeting in Davos.
		And I also should share this, that I may have been banned from Turkey.
		So this is hilarious.
		So after my video came out, what's his name, Karul?
		What's his name, Dr. Karul?
		So the head of archaeology in Turkey...
		I took great issue with my conspiracy theories on it and has – he was quoted in an article saying that I should be sanctioned and then he followed up with like I will be sanctioned.
		And I'm like, well, how are you going to keep me out of Gobekli Tepe?
		Have I been banned from Turkey?
		Because American citizens don't need a visa to go into Turkey unless they're going to be there more than 90 days.
		So there's – if I could, I could apply ahead of time.
		Like in Egypt, you can apply for your tourism visa ahead of time and I know if I was rejected.
		That's what he said, is that I'll be sanctioned.
		He was referring to me, and I'm like, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Well, it means travel bans.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It means you're not going to let him in the country.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It means I go to the airport and get rejected at customs, potentially.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that is possibly what would happen.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He said it will happen.
		I don't know that it's happened.
		Flights in Turkey are actually a little bit pricey, and I'm like, well, damn it.
		I'm like, if I'm going to land there and get turned around, that would suck.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you might be able to make a nice video about it.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Actually, yeah.
		That's a video.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it kind of helps you.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I'm over the target with Gobekli Tepe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or at least you're making them uncomfortable.
		You're forcing them to consider why they have chosen this.
		If it's just for economic reasons, which does make sense, if so many people are already going there, why should we spend more money?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I get Well, and it makes sense and it's the most likely explanation.
		It's probably true.
		But that means that then this is an issue of either mismanagement or incompetence because it is inexcusable that – because as of right now, their plan is that it will not be fully excavated.
		It will not be fully excavated in any of our lifetimes.
		And there could potentially be answers involving our ancient past at Gobekli Tepe, and it is entirely inexcusable that we wouldn't dig it up.
		And I don't actually think it will take away from tourism by removing the mystery.
		Half a million people a year are visiting it just because.
		And if they dig up more of it, in my opinion, that's more reason to go there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what did you just show, Jamie?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I went to the article about the funding at Ganongodang.
		Yes.
		It does say that thing about unlimited funding, but it might have been also misinterpreted by translation.
		It's coming from the Jakarta Post.
		It talks about how the soldiers were using hose to excavate.
		They didn't like that.
		It mentions the first disbursement of $250,000 was put out.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Is this from 2014, this article?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's the same article, because it shows the thing that says unlimited amount of research funding, but it says it was taken from other funding, and then it says that there's a lack of funding right below it.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Archaeologists at other sites bemoan a lack of funding.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let me just say this.
		My ass.
		All they've got to do is drill a hole and stick a camera through it into the tube to figure out if it's a lava tube or something man-made.
		This is not expensive.
		It could get done for thousands of dollars, not millions of dollars.
		And if it is a 27,000-year-old pyramidal structure, as Graham Hancock has proposed, the data – look, the data is not proven.
		It's hotly debated.
		But let me just make this crystal clear.
		We don't know what it is.
		It could potentially be the oldest ancient ruin on Earth.
		And we're never going to know the answer until we go looking.
		And it is entirely unacceptable that we're not doing it.
		What is happening?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's a thing to get, like, less conspiratorial but support it from a very real position.
		There's a thing with science with their paradigms.
		They've looked at it from a very long time.
		With the origins of Earth sciences and history, they were expected to bear out the Bible, prove the Bible right.
		Then evolution, and then Darwin, and then it was gradualism.
		Prove the Bible wrong.
		There is no major global flood.
		And gradualism, they assume that everything happens slowly.
		There's nothing catastrophic in the record.
		And that lasted from the late 1700s, all the...
		1800s, excuse me, all the fucking way up until 1980 when the KT dinosaur-killing meteor was accepted.
		Before that, there was no such thing as punctuated equilibrium, which is what they call it now.
		Where...
		Which any kid could figure out is the way the fucking world works.
		Slow erosion happens on the side of the bank, but sometimes there's a big flood that carves a big chunk of the bank.
		I mean, this is no-brainer shit.
		Life moves at a steady pace normally, and then every now and again something catastrophic happens.
		So my point is that if they think that digging something up is going to change a paradigm that they're expected to maintain, they're not going to fucking dig it up.
		The kind of opposition that they face to overturning paradigms, like the Clovis first thing, like when Flint was on here and he tried to play that one down.
		Not only were careers ruined from that, but one thing you'll almost never hear mentioned was Clovis first was version two of this.
		Before that, it was the Folsom point and Folsom first, and many careers were ruined by people that posited that the Americans were people before the Folsom culture.
		Then they found the Clovis.
		This is not some novel time of, well, there was a scientific debate and a few...
		No, no, no.
		This is standard operating procedure, the way it's always fucking been done.
		So it's not a surprising thing that they're going to try to hide stuff.
		It's not a surprising thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just human ego and control.
		Humans always want to be the experts and they always want to be the one in control of the information.
		Information that's new that's coming out counters their control and their expertise.
		They reject it.
		And it's just ego.
		It's just ego.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's just kind of messed up because...
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I know scientists are people, but...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It should all be what we know now.
		This is what we know now.
		And when new information comes along, okay, now we're thinking about it in a different way.
		But the problem is they've published books.
		And these books, they've definitively given dates.
		We now know.
		We are sure that this...
		What are your thoughts on the dating of the pyramids and how do they date the pyramids?
		They date the pyramids based on whatever carbon that they could find in between the stones.
		Obviously, you can't carbon date stones themselves.
		So you have to use some sort of organic material that's around that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		The best dating is that the Great Pyramid is somewhere around 4,500 years ago.
		That was from organic material taken between casing stones.
		You could argue that the casing stones were restored because even the Romans restored parts of the Sphinx.
		I don't know how old the Great Pyramid is, but if it was constructed 4,500 years ago, then our understanding of what was happening on the Giza Plateau at that time is vastly different than the people that were – if you look at any academic textbook, they show people wearing loincloths and barefoot constructing the pyramid.
		And nah, that's – nah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, even hieroglyphs that depict moving statues.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a bunch of guys with sandals pulling a sled.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		So that depiction, which should be in my Ramiseum folder, Jamie, that one statue was only 58 metric tons.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Only?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Compared to the other big boys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all crazy.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		This is what they say.
		They say, well, they pulled it on a sledge, which is like a wooden sled.
		And I'm like, the Ramiseum statue is 15 times heavier than that other one.
		Yeah, this is what they always show.
		They always show these naked dudes.
		Yeah, look at them.
		Bare ass.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Heave ho.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why are they all naked?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Just to be clear.
		I know.
		Because they want to show them that they're dumb and primitive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We want the dude with the whip.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got some clothes on.
unidentified		Look at that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy's got clothes on.
		But that's kind of been debunked, right?
		Because one of the things they found is that when they studied the remains that were in the enclosures where the people that worked on the pyramid lived...
		They're not slaves.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		No, they were fed well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they were fed well and it seems like they were highly skilled.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They had to have been.
		I mean, I've tried to suss – to me what's the most impressive thing about it is the accuracy of the pyramid to itself.
		It's like a perfect square with like two inches of deviation at 756 feet per side.
		That's like a tiny fraction of a percentage off.
		You're like machine-age standards on a fucking gigantic fucking scale.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		The only thing I could come up with was, and I have to test it, but like if you had a concave mirror, it creates a little circle of light like a magnifying glass does that will start a fire.
		At a certain distance, it's going to be the same size no matter what.
		So you could calibrate that and if you have to have everything exactly set up, but if you shot at a target and filled up a perfect circle, you could know it was exact range.
		That kind of thing would work because you can't measure this with ropes.
		You can't measure...
		I mean, ropes sag and they're affected by humidity and stuff.
		And again, it's two inches at 756 feet.
		That's not...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this taking into account the casings that were removed?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, it's not.
		This is just the base perimeter of the pyramid.
		There's an outline around the pyramid where it was kind of scratched into the ground for where they think that they used water and stuff to do leveling.
		And they generally measure around that, to my understanding.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And any deviation, even in millimeters, with each rock, as you get up to 2,300,000 stones to build the peak of the pyramid, any deviation on either side would fuck the whole thing up.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It is virtually perfect.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Not quite perfect, but it is virtually perfect.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's made by humans, allegedly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or Anunnaki.
unidentified		Anunnaki.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, the Anunnaki one is the most fun because I love those stories.
		I love Sitchin's stuff.
		It's just because it's the funnest possibility is that human beings were genetically engineered by a superior race that came here to mine gold.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I was telling Jim actually last night that archaeologists frequently refer to the Clovis hypothesis as elegant and I often tell him that this is actually Christian stuff is even more elegant.
		It explains why we want gold and silver.
		I mean, come on.
		That's all around the entire world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The gold one's the weird one, because you can't make any tools out of it, you can't make weapons out of it, and yet it was the most prized metal.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		And it works really good when you get to a higher level of tech all of a sudden.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty useful, isn't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's very useful.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then there's also the idea of suspending particles in the atmosphere.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Like Chris talks about, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, which is what Bill Gates wants to do today, that fucking kook.
		Hey, fuckface, there's a lot of people living here.
		You don't get to choose when the shades get put on the earth because you have this goofy climate change narrative.
		I don't believe you.
		I don't like that you're even talking about doing this.
		How about a global vote as whether or not this one asshole created Windows 95 gets to do this.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He didn't create anything.
		He bought the patent off, that IBM guy.
		I love putting that on blast because it's like, I think he has...
		I think he suffers from an inferiority complex.
		I think that he's jealous of Elon Musk and others.
		I think he...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he famously has shorted Tesla.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and he makes him look like a massive douche.
		I think that he is...
		Look, he was once the king, the richest man on earth, and now he's not, and I think that that's all he wants.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Again, power, human power and ego, and especially people that have enormous resources and control over things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't want to relinquish that grip.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's like, bro, he should be living in an all-inclusive riding jet skis.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You made it, brother.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You should be living like Jeff Bezos.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		At least be happy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I want out of my billionaires.
		I want Jeff Bezos.
		When people criticize him, I'm like, what are you talking about?
		He's living the dream.
		All of a sudden, he's jacked.
		He has a super hot girlfriend.
		He's got a giant yacht.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I can't figure out why he runs the Washington Post, because he owns the Washington Post?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's changed the shit out of it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Has he?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a big, big to-do about it, because he released this article that we have to, or released a story, rather.
		He wrote a piece essentially saying that you have to take divergent viewpoints.
		You have to take a bunch of different perspectives.
		We can't just be this left-wing echo chamber, and it's the reason why the business is faltering.
		I mean, all of these I was just reading something about CNN's ratings and MSNBC's ratings post-election.
		They've crashed.
		All these left-wing kooks on YouTube are hemorrhaging subscribers, where people go, you guys are out of touch, you're not accurate, you're delusional.
		And people are speaking with their subscriptions, and they're speaking with their purchasing of the Washington Post, and their purchasing of the New York Times.
		The New York Times just debunked, in the most insane way, debunked RFK Jr.'s assertion that the ingredients in Froot Loops are different in Canada than they are in the United States.
		They fact-checked it while saying he was accurate.
		So their fact check, it's so dumb when you see the fact, I tweeted it.
		The fact check is so dumb because the fact check says it's not correct, they have the same ingredients, except for these harmful chemicals.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Kennedy has singled out Fruit Loops as an example of a product with too many artificial ingredients, questioning why the Canadian version has fewer than the U.S. version.
		But he was wrong.
		The ingredient list is roughly the same, although Canada's has natural colorings made from blueberries and carrots, while the U.S. product contains red dye 40, yellow 5, and blue 1, as well as Butylated hydroxytulin, or BHT, a lab-made chemical that is used for freshness according to the ingredient label that is the fucking dangerous chemicals that are banned in Canada that we're trying to get rid of in America.
		So they're literally saying he was wrong but he was right.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that made my brain hurt just reading that.
unidentified		That's the New York fucking Times!
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, but PewDiePie hadn't dressed like a Nazi for a while, so they didn't have anything to talk about, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that's about.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But this is what the New York Times is doing.
		So, of course, you're gonna hemorrhage subscribers.
		Of course.
		You're crazy.
		You're saying something that's nuts.
		And also, what is your motivation?
		What's your motivation for removing potentially harmful and toxic chemicals?
		If someone is trying to do that for the greater health of the population, if we're saying that these things have been eliminated in other countries because they've been proven to be dangerous, what is your motivation for saying he was wrong?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what else could it be?
		Clearly, Santo, brother.
		Ideology, you know, left-wing rejection of RFK Jr., because now he's connected to Trump, which is connected to Nazis.
		It's like you go down this fucking weird rabbit hole with these people, and you're like, what are you trying to do?
		Are you trying to remove all leftover credibility?
		Are you trying to eliminate, because you lost so much credibility.
		Are you trying to kill it all?
		Are you secretly working for the Chinese?
unidentified		What are you doing?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They're all in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's probably backed by Monsanto or something, because if you look at, like, these serials...
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That is a crazy statement.
		To think that the media was once called the fourth estate in this country is mind-boggling, honestly.
		To think that we used to consider them the fourth estate of government, that it was like this...
		Our father's generation, that's what they considered Ted Koppel, man.
		Fucking...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I'm hoping is that what Jeff Bezos has said...
		About the Washington Post, and I know what CNN is considering doing, and they've made some sort of a trend towards a more objective form of journalism.
		But they're still compromised by the sponsors.
		They're still compromised by the advertisers.
		They're so compromised that I don't know if they can ever get to where they really need to be to compete with actual, objective, real journalists that are independent.
		Because I don't think they can.
		So it's kind of crazy.
		It's like they're digging their own grave every day.
		And then they're lashing out at all the other people that aren't digging their own grave.
unidentified		It's like, you guys are so crazy.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They're doing it to themselves.
		And now it's like, what is it, citizen journalists?
		How did Elon Musk put it?
		It's like, you are now the journalist.
		I'm misquoting him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		X is mainstream media now.
		That is the mainstream media.
		That's where most people are getting their news now.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		The views speak for itself, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not just the views, it's the community notes.
		The fact that you can actually fact check these things.
		And then you have all these brilliant people that are participating in this live debate in real time online about what's real and what's not.
		And you're finding, specifically when they found the Twitter files, they're like, Jesus Christ, the FBI is involved in this?
		Like, what the fuck is going on?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is so crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The FBI is involved in deciding what's real and what's not on Twitter?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Unreal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you're banning journalists?
		You're banning scientists?
		Like, this is really crazy.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's bad for society.
		It's terrible.
		It's caused irreparable harm with misinformation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's not.
		So it's bad initially, but then ultimately it's good.
		Because ultimately, we learn who you can and can't trust.
		And you say, well, who's just honest and accurate?
		Because there's a lot of money in being honest and accurate.
		You know, this is what's crazy.
		Like, all these independent journalists are doing really well.
		Well, because they don't have a fucking giant building in Atlanta that's filled with a thousand workers, right?
		So they don't have the overhead for terrible ratings.
		Terrible ratings and a massive overhead.
		Like, you're kind of fucked!
		So it's great for us That it leads to the rise of these guys like Matt Taibbi that used to be a part of the system and now are independent.
		Glenn Greenwald.
		All these type of people.
		Michael Schellenberger.
		People that you can actually trust.
		They're going to tell you the truth because there's actually money in telling the truth.
		It's a great business model.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's course corrected and you're proof of it and all these other people, whether it's Tucker Carlson and many, many others.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There is a course correction and the problem is they've dug their heels in so much and they'll write articles like that New York Times article that is so crazy.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		They updated it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, congratulations.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		They changed the wording a little bit.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Here's what it looked like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They changed it.
		They got busted.
		Because it got like 10 million views on X in a day.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They got blasted.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It got blasted everywhere.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		That kind of double thing's insane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So this is what they said here.
		Why do we have fruitless in this country that have 18 or 19 ingredients?
		You go to Canada as two or three, Mr. Kennedy asked.
		He was wrong on the ingredient count.
		They are roughly the same.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what they changed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but they're still missing the whole fucking point.
		So the ingredient count is roughly the same.
		So there's still 19 ingredients in the Canadian version, but it's all just like sugar and wheat and like carrot dye and blueberry dye and whatever the fuck else they have.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They found a factual error that they could pull out instead of addressing the meat of what he was saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The meat of what he was saying is that all these things, these dyes, are all illegal in Canada.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And also illegal in other countries.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's poison.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Cereal is one of the worst things you can consume.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But it's so delicious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I wonder if it's just as delicious in Canada, which is crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't need it to be flavored or colored by fucking dye when you can get it from beets or whatever.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the dye thing's crazy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		The red dye 40 is actually kind of a big problem.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of kids that have, like, ADD kind of symptoms from red dye 40. Well, I mean, if you're left alone to your own devices and you're a child like I was, you would just fucking pour a bowl out of a bowl of that cereal until you're ready to explode.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I would eat fucking Captain Crunch until I had a fucking heart attack.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Lucky Charms.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Lucky Charms eating just the marshmallows.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is bullshit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where's the marshmallows?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		The Saturday morning cartoons.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're getting cracked out to Bullwinkle.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you're just eating bowls of sugar.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		That sugar high.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, we didn't even know that sugar was bad for you because, again, another fucking conspiracy that turned out to be true.
		The scientists got bribed by the sugar industry to push all the blame on saturated fat.
		That's why everybody started using margarine and all this stupid shit.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, eat some plastic.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I love those.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you leave margarine out, rats don't even eat it?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I was about to say that.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You'll see ants that will be eating natural butter, but they won't touch margarine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they eat each other.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't fuck with margarine.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Something to be said for that.
		It's glue.
		It's chemical.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's industrial oil.
		It's really weird.
		It used to be used for engine lubricant.
		We're like, whoa, feels great on toast.
		We're so stupid.
		We're so fucking stupid.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's wild when you think about it.
		The things that we will do, like the Milligram experiment I mentioned before, the experiment they did back after everybody was wondering here in the States why the Nazis were able to convince, rank-and-file normal people to do fucked-up stuff.
		So they got guys in a lab coat, and they had an actor pretend he was getting shocked as a test subject, but the real test subject was the guy they had, quote-unquote, shocking that guy.
		And the guy in the lab coat would keep telling him to do it more, and they found about 30% of the people, if they were told, would shock him all the way up to killing the guy.
		And that kind of appeal to authority, that kind of worshipping of authority has really...
		They're gutting it right now and they're paying the price.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just dangerous because authority has a massive responsibility to be accurate.
		And with that comes humility and the understanding that we don't know everything.
		It's not possible, which is why we're constantly studying things.
		And this need to be accurate and need to be correct and need to be the only one who has access to this information to educate people is preposterous.
		It's really crazy, especially when it comes to something like ancient history, which is why your channel is so popular and your channel and Graham Hancock's shows are so popular and why these people that want to hold on to that throne are so adamant about labeling them with every possible horrible pejorative.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that's a really easy way to get them out.
		Like I said, they're losing authority right now, like we're talking about.
		We're talking about mainstream media, or legacy media, I guess you could call it, falling apart and stuff.
		What I mentioned about PewDiePie earlier, if you remember about 10 years ago, the Adpocalypse, that was, I think it was actually a Wall Street Journal article, but it was a legacy media that wrote about PewDiePie, and they fucking, like, threw him under the bus.
		They, like, misconstrued him and everything else, and the effects were very real.
		It slapped YouTube content creators across the board.
		If you look up Adpocalypse, You can read all about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they've actually dropped some of the bans on X now, which is great.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which is, I think, a sign of the culture shifting also after the election.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're realizing that there's actually a lot of money in advertising there.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Like, what are you, fucking retarded?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's there.
		It's the number one platform on earth for people discussing things.
		It's the future.
		Why wouldn't you advertise there?
		Because you're trying to bleed that guy out.
		But you fucked with the wrong dude.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's crazy.
		He's got more money than anybody.
		And he's like, I don't care.
		I'm buying it.
		He bought it for twice what it's worth.
		And they're like, Twitter has lost $20 billion in value.
		He's a terrible businessman.
		No!
		He overpaid.
unidentified		He overpaid substantially to try to save free speech.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this was what you would call an activist investment.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's just a rare cat who's willing to do something like that.
		There's not a lot of people that are willing to, like, lose billions on something.
		But when you got 200 billion, you're like, let's fucking shift this apple cart.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I'm so glad he's on the right side of history.
		That guy's a hero.
		He's a living hero, and X is the future.
		That is going to be the biggest platform on Earth.
		That's his goal, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, it certainly already is and probably will grow.
		And, you know, they keep saying people are going to Blue Sky.
		Do you know if you go to Blue Sky and you type, there's only two genders, you're banned instantly?
unidentified		Yes.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I saw this recently.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Blue Sky is just the newest echo chamber of the old Twitter.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		There's all kinds of people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I saw these Stephen King dorks.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're going to go over there and let their brains rot out in an echo chamber.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I've been picking on all of my friends in the real world that were laughing at, I forget the name of the site, Rumble, when everybody was like, oh, the right-wingers are going to Rumble.
unidentified		Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Now it's like all you guys are running the blue sky.
unidentified		Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it fucking funny how that works?
unidentified		Yeah.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Rumble.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Echo chamber.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Rumble's been so good to me.
		Let me give Chris Pavlovsky a shout-out, the CEO of Rumble.
		I had the pleasure of meeting him, and they've been treating me real good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Rumble's great.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're fantastic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Full-on free speech, whether you're on the left or the right, whatever it is.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Anything I want.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Anything I want within, as long as it's not violence or something like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I recommend people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everything that's legal.
		Which is what it's supposed to be.
		And that's what the First Amendment is supposed to apply to.
		And this is one of the great things about this administration that's coming in is that Donald Trump wants to apply the First Amendment to all these sites.
		He wants to stop all this big tech banning, which is, by the way, was terrible for him in 2020. I mean it really – it's election interference.
		It truly is because you're eliminating one complete side of the argument.
		It's supposed to be one side thinks this, the other side thinks that.
		They get together and discuss it and you as the person outside of it gets to see who makes a more compelling argument.
		And the wonderful thing about community notes is you get to see whether or not someone's bullshitting.
		So let's find out what's right and what's wrong, what's true, what's not.
		That's what it's supposed to be.
		But the problem with that is then you don't really have control of the election.
		And that's what they found out in 2024. They don't have control of it anymore.
		And you can get Beyonce and pay her $10 million.
		It doesn't fucking work.
		It doesn't work anymore.
		No one cares.
		No one believes them.
		They don't trust them.
		They make terrible life choices.
		And you're like, well, clearly you're not a person I'm going to listen to when it comes to who's going to run the fucking world, Taylor Swift.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is crazy, Eminem.
		What are you talking about?
		How much have you locked?
		I mean, I want to sit Eminem down with like a political scholar.
		And like, tell me what you know about the invasion of Ukraine.
		What do you know about the coup in 2014?
		What do you know about NATO moving weapons closer and closer?
		What do you know about the violation of the treaty that we have?
		What the fuck are you doing, man?
		You shouldn't be doing this.
		This is not the thing for you to be doing here.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		These people have no idea what they're talking about.
		They're all puppets.
		They're people that don't do any research on their own and they're just told what to think or they're compromised.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they were getting paid.
		And I think that's what's even weirder is that you're allowed to pay people to endorse you for president, which is crazy.
		Crazy!
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Oprah, two and a half million.
		Not a million.
		They thought, now it's two and a half million.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I sent that to Jamie.
		But that seems to be like production costs would seem at least slightly elevated for an event.
		But the weird one was like the Beyonce one.
		If it's true, and you know, there's a lot of sites reporting it as it is true, but we tried to look.
		Jamie, look, it's hard to find what's true and what's not true.
		Because there's a lot of money that was paid to staff, but it's like unclear what that means.
		And then it's unclear where they burned all the money.
		And then there's also the money that went to these activist groups.
		And we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars they paid to people to support this administration, which is kind of supposed to be the other way around.
		Aren't these groups supposed to be paying money to prop up the campaign because the campaign believes in them?
		No, you're paying these activist groups to support you, which is just...
		Crazy.
		Also, it didn't work.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It didn't work at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You went through a billion plus dollars in three months.
		This is so crazy.
		And you're in debt.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And I think a lot of people made some money in the process.
		That money went somewhere.
		Where is it now?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's part of the problem with climate change.
		That's part of the problem with everything is that it's profitable to spit out a narrative.
		And that there's a lot of money being moved around.
		And this is money in politics.
		And as much as we can get that out...
		We need to.
		And I think one of the most important things about getting that out is this whole thing about pharmaceutical drug companies being able to advertise, which changed in the 1990s.
		We have to recognize that before the 1990s, pharmaceutical drugs could not advertise on TV. And guess what?
		We were taken way less and we were way healthier.
		So this is not good, folks.
		This is not good.
		And other than Ozempic, which is at least curbing obesity to a certain extent, what are these drugs that are doing good?
		If you look at the overall health of people, it's declining.
		Obesity is rising.
		Heart attacks are rising.
		Strokes are rising.
		All this shit is bad.
		We're not moving in the right direction.
		And yet there's a tremendous resistance for change.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		But it's funny to me that they would spend so much money on this election when, I mean, it's kind of clear that When one person's platform is do this, this, this, this, and this, the other person's platform is not him?
		I mean, that's like riding somebody else's coattails.
		Deliberately.
		She came in with the platform.
		I'm not Trump.
		So, okay, well, that's great.
		But, I mean, once people have pierced through the veil of Trump's going to make everything illegal and put everybody that's not white into camps and shit, once they've got past that, what do you have?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also...
		If you're going to develop a real platform, you're going to run for president, I would think you would want to do that over a long period of time and be very careful about...
		Treat it like a defense attorney.
		If you were prosecuting this as a case, you would want to have all of your facts that show that you're correct and have all of your arguments, and you would want to have mock arguments.
		If someone comes to you and says, well, what about this, this, and this?
		That's not the case, and this is why that's not the case.
		You would want to have all your ducks in a row.
		To me, it's like a fighter that takes a last-minute fight, and they've been sitting around drinking beer, and they haven't gone through a 10-week camp.
		Like, don't do it.
		Don't do it.
		You're not ready for this.
		And if your only strategy is just like a wild punch, which is basically, he's a liar.
		Meanwhile, you're lying about him every fucking day.
		The Russia collusion shit, the very fine people shit, all the thing about taking Liz Cheney and executing her.
		That's all lies.
		You guys are just lying.
		And you're saying he's a liar, but yet you're lying all the time and you're doing it like it's 1995 and there's no social media.
		But you can't do that anymore, especially when the people that are paying attention to the podcast, well, guess what?
		Podcasts are a hundred times bigger than anything you guys have.
		And people are listening to that and they know you're full of shit and then your numbers decline even further.
		So I think they were saying that CNN – how much is CNN down?
		Because I was seeing this on Twitter and it's hard to know whether or not it's hyperbole or whether or not it's fact.
		But they were saying that CNN's ratings are down like 80 percent of their peak.
		And MSNBC is some other preposterous number, and they're both on the chopping block.
		CNN is talking about mass layoffs of talent because nobody believes them anymore.
		So it's counterproductive for you to use the same voices, which is why they got rid of Brian Stelter, and then they brought him back.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Which was so odd.
unidentified		I'm like, you know, I'm looking forward to- How much talent is missing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they don't have any talent.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		They're all going out of business.
		They're going to have to rebrand.
		They're going to have to get entire new management.
		I'll never watch those programs ever again, those networks.
		Literally never.
		They're dead to me now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's propaganda.
		At least a percentage of it is propaganda.
		That's unacceptable.
		It's unacceptable if you're the voice of the news in the world.
		It's unacceptable for you to have a large percentage of what you're saying to be completely full of shit.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's funny, you can see the same pattern of attack that they throw at Trump being used against Tulsi Gabbard the last time around when she fucking nailed Kamala in the debate, and she was just like, you can stand here and say all cops are bad, but you got hundreds of thousands of people in jail and prison.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Leftist viewers deal, NBC, CNN, a Trump slump ratings crash.
		Here's why.
		So what's the numbers?
		What does it say?
		The Rachel Maddow Show, for example, easily MSNBC's top-rated program, though it only airs once a week, drew just 1.3 million viewers on November 10th.
		Five days after the election, a drop of 1 million viewers from the month before.
		In the key 25 to 54 demographic, the advertisers most covet, Maddow's numbers mark the smallest audience since her show has seen since April of 2022. And she's the number one show.
		Which is like, you know...
		If I only got a million people watching the show, I'd be so pissed.
		Hannity nearly quadrupled her with 420,000 views to her meager 109,000.
		She got 109,000 people in the 25 to 54. So it's a bunch of old cat ladies.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And airports.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and airports, right.
		Outside of Maddow, MSNBC has seen an unprecedented plunge.
		This is really bad news.
		And what is that?
		For example, on Tuesday, November 11th, the week after the elections, MSNBC attracted its lowest 25 to 54 demo ratings in 23 years.
		Over on CNN, the demo number was the lowest it has been since June 27, 2000, when Bill Clinton was president.
		For the overall week of November 6th through 13th, Fox News averaged 2.23 billion views while MSNBC attracted a paltry 550,000 and CNN just 399,000.
		Think about how much money is being pumped into CNN. So go scroll back up a little bit.
		In fact, Fox News saw its viewership jump by 38% overall since November 5th after dominating election night by topping all networks, drawing more than 10 million viewers.
		It's so bad that MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and Mika, how do you say her name, crawled to Mar-a-Lago on Friday to kiss Trump's ring, drawing scorn for their utter shamelessness after years of on-air attacks.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		You know, real quick, let me just, you know what they're not including is that on Rumble, Dan Bongino and Stephen Crowder had the number one and number two ratings on all of election night.
		So they're not, they're just mentioning mainstream networks.
		They're leaving out the fact that- What did Dan Bongino have?
		He had over half a million real-time viewers live and same with Stephen Crowder.
		They were very comparable.
		They were the number one and number two platforms in the world.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what did CNN have at that night?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I'm not entirely sure, but it was way less.
unidentified		That's crazy.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It was way less.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That can't be.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Look it up!
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I would agree that online they probably had the highest, but to compare the world watching CNN and Fox News and MSNBC that night was less than 500,000.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's online streaming I'm referring to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It must be, because didn't it just say Fox News had the highest ratings?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There were 5.5 million?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This doesn't have anything to do with online.
		That's even saying the 25 to 54-year-olds could just be people.
		They're like, why would I turn on the TV? I was watching online.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they dominated it online.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So either way, this is what happened after 2016 as well, you know?
		Or after 2020 rather.
		Once he's out of office, you can't complain about Trump anymore, your ratings crash.
		Like your entire business is operated on fear.
		It's like, oh, the orange man.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And hatred.
		I mean, let's be real.
		There's a lot of people just tune in just to get angry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I tune in to Joy Reid just to laugh.
		I like to get blazed and watch that lady.
		Like, what the fuck are you saying?
		She spent an entire part of her program comparing Trump to Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini.
		And MSNBC compared the rally in Madison Square Garden to the Nazi rally from the 1930s.
		I performed in Madison Square Garden, so that must have made me a Nazi as well.
		When I had a show there, I was telling jokes.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And you just had a guy on your show talking about the swastika on five continents around the world 10,000 years ago.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fucking Nazi stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then I defended the Martyr Maid guy.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let me just say this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I defended that guy, so that's more Nazi.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I encourage everyone to go watch Ancient Apocalypse, Graham Hancock's on Netflix.
		Think for yourself.
		But one last thing to mention about that is that even John Hoops had compared Ancient Apocalypse, he associated it with Sandy Hook.
		I am not kidding.
		This was, what, a week ago?
		Two weeks ago?
		Disgusting.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		He's talking about...
		Archaeology is a canary in the coal mine, and you can tell that because you see this horrible thing happened before 9-11, and therefore they're connected.
		And Sandy Hook happened right around the same time as the 2012 thing.
		Ergo, it's just like, dude...
		Puke!
		You know, Alex Jones could give you some advice here, buddy.
		You're going to get fucking sued.
		Shut your mouth about Sandy Hook, man.
unidentified		Come on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What the hell's wrong with you?
		It's all the same thing that they do.
		It's the same thing Flint Devil did, you know, connecting it to white supremacy.
		Atlantis.
		Oh, Atlantis.
		It's really a funny...
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're at three hours plus in, but I would feel like we cheated the world if we didn't talk.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		About the reshot structure.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love your video and I saw...
		I don't understand Randall's reluctance to accept this as a possibility.
		It's very fascinating because there's so many details and your video that details the reshot structure which is incredibly strange.
		Structure.
		If it's not man-made and if it wasn't at one point in time, it's some sort of a structure that was made by human beings.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't need to be.
		So this is one of the things that Randall says, well, it's a natural feature, so it can't be Atlantis.
		I'm like, well, who built Atlantis?
		He said it was the god Poseidon.
		Well, was Poseidon an actual individual?
		Because if you look at the ancient Greek translation of Poseidon, it's Lord of the Earth, which I think is a modern-day translation for Mother Nature.
		And humans have built on natural geological features throughout history.
		If you were to bring up the Rishat structure from space, it's like no other place on Earth.
		It is a mysterious site.
		The consensus is that it's volcanic in nature and it's a collapsed volcano.
		Volcanic dome.
		But it doesn't match anything else anywhere else on Earth as far as volcanic domes go.
		It matches more than a dozen similarities of the most – let me say this – the most consequential similarities to what Plato had described as a lost ancient city of Atlantis.
		And it's made up of concentric circles.
		If it had water, it – It specifically matches three of water and two of land.
		It's made up of red, black, white color stones.
		There's an abundance of gold in Mauritania.
		Elephants, which were described to being on Atlantis.
		You won't find gold or elephants in the Azores like Randall promotes.
		It also has an opening at the south, which matches the description of Atlantis.
		There's mountains to the north, which just so happen to be called the Atlas Mountains, which are in modern day Morocco.
		Well, Atlas, which is a very unique name, was said to be the very first king of Atlantis, which also happens to be the name of the very first king in Mauritania, which is where the Rishat structure is located.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's also covered in salt.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Water was there.
		Oh, and there's another similarity is that Atlantis was said on those mountains that were said to be to the north, which are, again, happened to be named the Atlas Mountains.
		Well, there was a river that was said to be flowing from those mountains.
		And there's a scientific study that say that Tam and Rissat River flowed at the exact time of Atlantis, 11,600 years ago, either right through the Rishat structure or directly north of it.
		And those are just a handful of similarities.
		It is by far the most likely location of the lost ancient city of Atlantis.
		Nothing can be concluded either way, but it is something that should not be ignored.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's certainly really fascinating.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And just the fact that there's these concentric rings that match the description of Atlantis.
		And it's in the same spot.
		And the mountains are in the same spot.
		The opening is in the same spot.
		Look at that.
		Whatever that is, it's really weird.
		And if you would imagine a city like Atlantis and the way it was described, That seems a very likely spot for it.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		And let me tell you something else.
		A lot of people say, well, it's not an island, so it couldn't possibly be Atlantis.
		But what they leave out is the fact that the ancient Greek word for island was Nessos and Nesson, which had five meanings, one of which was island.
		The other was promontory, peninsula, as well as land within a continent surrounded by lakes, rivers, or springs, which matches the Rishad structure.
		So it's like, you know, a lot of people, and let me also say this, Because a lot of people – and I think all areas should be studied.
		I'm not debunking the Azores.
		However, the fact that it's in the Sahara Desert and that the Egyptians are the ones that came up with the tale of Atlantis, that's where it originates from, which surprises a lot of people.
		Well, Egypt is in the Sahara and so is the Rishat structure.
		And at the time of Atlantis, the Sahara was green.
		It had one of the largest networks of rivers ever known to exist as well as the largest freshwater lake.
		And so if the Egyptians were colonists of a destroyed civilization, it's not unreasonable to say that it was in the Sahara.
		And let me say something else.
		If Atlantis was described as being busy all day and all night and was a trading post— Does it make sense to be in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean or is it far more feasible that it would be in the Sahara Desert, which wasn't a desert at the time?
		Because if it was said to be busy all day and all night with languages spoken from all over, where are all these people coming from in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean to go visit it?
		It makes far more sense that it would be in that portion, in that region of the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much work has been done excavating?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		None.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Zero.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Almost nothing, yes.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		There's gold in the Mortanian Desert and they don't want anyone touching it.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		It's a dangerous place to go.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		It's very inhospitable.
		It's 250 miles inland and I know people who have gone out there and it is a dangerous, inhospitable place.
		There's no water.
		It's hard to get to.
		You could have all the money in the world and you could still die out there.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not just hard to get to, but not just inhospitable.
		It's kind of war-torn, kind of fucked up, the kind of place where you're not going to have to worry about somebody playing a tourist trick on you.
		They're just going to take your shit.
		It's a lot of reasons that people aren't going there, but it's really interesting, even to me, where I'm a lot more skeptical.
		So I do believe in a lost civilization, and I think that I think it's really interesting to find so many of those same things in the same area.
		It's just uncanny.
		Like Jim says, when it's just a stone's throw away from Egypt, really, it would make sense that they would have that package, a big chunk of those things, so accurately recorded.
		And to find it right there...
		Definitely.
		This is one of the things I harp about on my channel all the time.
		We need more honest skeptics.
		This is definitely the kind of thing we need real scientists to go out there and do.
		We don't need guys to knee-jerk and say, well, you attached it to Atlantis, so fuck that noise.
		It can't be.
		We don't need guys to say, it's definitely Atlantis, but there's nothing to see here.
		We need boots on the ground.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And how the fuck could Atlantis, if it really is in Africa, be connected to white supremacy?
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fuck.
		Let me touch on this one really quick, Joe.
		If I can hit this really fast...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so stupid.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		The Africans are black!
unidentified		Hello?
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying the Atlanteans are black.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's black supremacy.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		This is what John Anthony West said on your show.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		He said he's like, not only did Atlantis exist, but they were black.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		African supremacy.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		They did it.
		The way that these guys attach the white supremacy thing is they go back to guys from the 1800s that wrote about Atlantis that had some old-school views on race.
		Now, they believed in the biblical races, and the way that the biblical races came to be is something you'll never find John Hoops or Flint Dibble tell you because it guts their entire argument.
		Before the Flood, there was one race of humans.
		After the Flood, Noah gets drunk.
		Three of his sons are around.
		One of them picks on him, laughs at him.
		Two other ones don't.
		The one that picked on him was Ham.
		The African people were considered to be the Hamites.
		The Sam, the Semitic people, were in the middle.
		And then the other one, the Japhaphites, which eventually became the Aryans, were considered to be the white people.
		That was the European view of race for...
		Up until about 150 years ago.
		So, 200 years ago, a guy writing about Atlantis would not have thought it was an Aryan Atlantis because Arians didn't exist until after Noah.
		It was one of Noah's sons.
		So before the flood, there was no Arians.
		So anytime somebody says that all this old school shit believes in Arians, all you have to do is scratch the surface and you'll find that's not the case at all.
		This guy didn't believe in a white Atlantis.
		Ignatius Donnelly did not believe in a white Atlantis despite Flint Dibble making sure to name drop that fucker anytime he gets a chance.
		But they're going to make sure you think that.
		They're going to eliminate, because the biblical races are something most people don't know much about.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Listen, let me just say this one point.
		I don't care what their color of their skin was, but the legend comes from Egypt and they're fucking brown.
		So get fucked with your racist argument.
		I don't care.
		Like, anyway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to get fucked.
		Gentlemen, thank you very much.
		This has been a lot of fun.
		It's really, really been fun.
		Jimmy, always great to see you.
unidentified		Good to see you again.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very nice to meet you.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Nice to meet you too, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for your channel, both of you guys.
		It's fantastic.
		Dedunking, Bright Insight, awesome channels on YouTube.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Follow me on X, Rumble, and Instagram.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Love you all.
unidentified		Thank you, Joe.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be at the Cosmic Summit speaking this summer if you guys want to catch me there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
dan richards ▲ ● ▼		Cosmic Summit, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
jimmy corsetti ▲ ● ▼		Thanks again, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, everybody.
unidentified		Bye.

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