Shawn Ryan joins Joe Rogan to expose how 21 terrorist groups, including alleged networks linked to Hanza bin Laden, now operate in Afghanistan, exploiting porous U.S. borders via the Darien Gap while evading tracking with legitimate passports—amid claims of military incompetence like the Abbey Gate bombing’s aftermath. They also reveal vulnerabilities in U.S. infrastructure: China-supplied transformers and cell towers pose blackout risks, while Foxconn’s factory conditions mirror Flint’s economic collapse, despite corporate reliance on foreign labor. Beyond security, Ryan introduces a remote viewer’s theory that humans lost telepathic instincts due to technology, paralleling Rogan’s concerns about atrophy from overuse, while critiquing the FDA’s 2017 drug approval failures and pharmaceutical resistance to Ibogaine—a PTSD/addiction cure veterans can’t access. The episode underscores systemic manipulation, from media bias to corporate influence, urging independent thought as polarization and censorship escalate. [Automatically generated summary]
As an older man, I look back and go, well, if you have some kid, you know, she was basically my age, she's probably 24 as well, and you're having this kid work in these terminals that has access to top secret information and they have clearance.
I would say, hey, maybe you shouldn't be just looking up shit randomly.
You know, it doesn't seem like everything's so compartmentalized in government, and especially at that kind of classified, whatever, security clearance level.
I mean, there's...
Whatever.
I didn't get that high up, but...
I've not seen a database where you can just look anything up like, oh shit, who killed up JFK? Let's look that up real quick.
I don't know who could actually say it other than the people that have read those papers.
You know, who knows what they, you know, the president is basically a part-time employee.
Not a part-time employee, but a short-term employee.
You know, if you've got a long-running business, and for some technicality, every now and then you have to bring in some fucking CEO, and he does a four-year term, and then hopefully he can finagle it so he gets another four-year term, if he's playing by the rules, and you just bring him in.
I think it would be one of the best things for the health of the people in the United States.
If you really care about health...
I think there's a lot of us, and it was me at one point in time, and I've gotten more educated about it, a lot of us are very ignorant about what we're doing to our bodies with food and with medications.
And I don't think we're being told the truth.
And I think there's a reason why other countries Multiple other countries have banned food elements, food, like, ingredients that we use all the time.
These red dyes, all these different – and this was all – there was just a recent thing that they did.
Who was involved in that?
Brigham testified in that.
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They had all these health experts testify and they were all hammering this point over and over again.
They were talking about the food additives, they were talking about glyphosate and how fucking dangerous glyphosate is and like an enormous percentage of people show traces of glyphosate in their blood.
We're getting it through all kinds of vegetables.
We're ubiquitously sprayed on monocrop agriculture crops.
We're all just consuming these poisons.
There's no reason to have fluoride in the water.
There's fucking no reason.
We've been putting fluoride in the water.
Oh, keep your teeth clean.
You don't want cavities.
It doesn't make any sense.
And we've been doing it forever.
And there's no reason to do it.
And there's like real data that shows that high levels of fluoride in water lowers IQ. The higher the fluoride is in water in certain areas, they can see a measurable dip in people's IQs.
Good for them, though, but that's what people need.
I think if RFK gets into office, he will expose a lot of this stuff, just like he did when he was an environmental attorney.
You know, people think of him as just a vaccine kook.
Listen, you've got to look at that guy's – the history of that guy's work has all been about protecting people from corporations that are poisoning them.
That's literally what that guy did his whole career.
And if he can do that with health, particularly with things that we can avoid.
Look, one of the things they demonstrated is that Lucky Charms, as sold in the United States, they don't sell the same one in Canada.
In Canada, the dyes that we use to make it all pretty and exciting for kids, they don't allow that because it's fucking toxic.
Probably the whole system is heavily influenced, at the very least.
Forget about bribery.
Let's not even say bribery.
Heavily influenced by relationships that these people have with CEOs in these corporations and the boards of executives and this weird little revolving door between the FDA and the CDC and all these different organizations.
And then they leave and then they get this amazing job working for some huge corporation that they were helping regulate just a few years ago.
It took a long time before I really understood, like, why do we think that saturated fat is bad?
Oh, it was a lie by the sugar companies.
Okay, why do people tell you that vitamin supplementation doesn't really help and you just need a balanced diet?
Oh, because doctors don't know jack shit about nutrition and that you're going to a guy who literally knows less than you because he went to medical school for how to fix knees or whatever the fuck he specialized in and you're taking this guy's advice and he doesn't know anything about nutrition.
He's not read any peer-reviewed data.
That guy's just trying to keep up.
He's got fucking bills piling in, and he's bringing people and shuffling them through the office, and he's worried about his, you have insurance in case you fuck up, malpractice insurance, and you have to pay your medical school bills, and those guys are barely getting, they're floating.
They're trying to just run people through their office as fast as they can.
According to the 2017 study, which is probably worse now, about one-third of drugs approved by the FDA within a 10-year period receive alerts, warnings, or recalls in the years following their approval.
Jamie, go to his page and find the most recent one.
Because the most recent one is fascinating.
Because the most recent one, this guy is openly talking about how monkeypox is not really a threat, but they're trying to present it as a threat so they can sell this medication.
Yeah.
Interesting.
And they're talking about pushing this...
This guy's openly talking about...
Monkey Box is really just gay guys get it from unprotected...
Oh, so is it because the New York Post doesn't show it?
That's okay.
We can just read what it says because it's kind of interesting.
We don't have to hear him say it.
But Stephen Crowder's kind of decided to do this James O'Keefe type deal.
And I don't know how they do that.
It's pretty wizardry.
Yeah.
Generally, I think you get a gay guy who likes to talk.
And some handsome dude who can sit down with this guy and get him a little tipsy.
That seems to be happening.
Gay guys like to spill the beans.
He previously served as senior health advisor to then-mayor Bill de Blasio, tasked with running Big Apple's pandemic response.
Okay, so he was talking about the approval process while discussing SIGA Technologies' Technovirumant, or T-Pox drug.
So this is the drug for monkeypox.
So that's why spinning it in the media is helpful.
We want the FDA to approve our drugs specifically for monkeypox, and right now it's only considered experimental, and they won't approve it, he said.
And the USTPOX is not approved by the FDA for treatment of MPOX, but can be used to treat patients as part of a clinical trial known as the study of technovirumat For human Mpox virus, according to Cigna Technologies.
The company's website added that the STOMP trial is being conducted to evaluate the efficacy of TPox for the treatment of Mpox.
Varna then griped at the video film on August 14th that his then-employer is stuck with our drug, but the people aren't going to be as confident in it because the data doesn't look as strong as it should.
And so then later he starts talking about the stock prices.
So he says sometimes you do a study and this fucking nothing works at all or people get really sick from it, he said in the covert recording.
The problem is if you do another study, it'll take a year or two to do it because you have to get the ethics approval, you got to get the money, you got to get the patients to come in.
In the videos, Varma then gloated about how he knows the reporters well and referenced a September interview with New York Times on MPOX, which touted the TPOX as a drug used to treat MPOX infection.
He also described the World Health Organization's emergency authorization process before explaining how he wants the media to report on TPOCs.
So he was talking, one of the things in the video, he was talking about stock prices.
So they're talking about making it look like these drugs do better than they do, getting people to prescribe them.
Okay, hold on.
So basically, what we're trying to get the media to say is, oh, the drug didn't work because it was designed the wrong way, so they're gonna do another study, and it'll probably work.
And in the meantime, people just prescribe it as an emergency drug.
That's what we want the story to be, which is wild to say out loud.
And he said, the risk of MPOC spreading in the US is very low, and it's almost certainly going to stay among gay men.
Yeah, so it's all just, it's supposedly only, like, I don't think in America, like, I think four people have died from it, which is, you gotta go hard.
Oh, so Crowder got him on camera saying that he was doing Molly and partying and saying, I hope somebody doesn't see me doing this because I could get in real trouble because, you know, obviously I... Reinforce the lockdowns.
And they were talking about these Kamala Harris rallies, about how organized they are.
These people are coming in on buses, and many of them have been to multiple rallies, and that When this one local one, like 80% of the people came from somewhere else.
Say if you do a game show, like if you host a game show, you know, Wheel of Fortune!
Hello, ladies and gentlemen!
Those people are all paid.
Most of them, or sometimes you let fans do it for like a very popular show, but I have personally been on a lot of shows where the audience is paid.
Interesting.
It's basically like if you're filming a sitcom, and nobody knows what the sitcom is, There's a company that you can hire and you pay the audience to come in.
And the people cheer.
They have an applause sign.
Everybody cheers.
They laugh when you tell them to laugh.
There's a guy in the audience that's doing this to them that the people at home don't see.
So it's all theater, right?
They could do that same strategy for a political rally easily.
If you're talking about all the money that you're going to be in control of when you are the President of the United States, which is a spectacular position, not just that, but then all the money you're going to make in appearances forever, right?
You're going to do Goldman Sachs talks and make a half a million dollars for no apparent reason.
There's so much money involved.
You don't think you would pay audiences to come and cheer?
Well, I think we have very loose rules on what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do.
There was a lot of outrage because people were saying that ABC somehow or another had gotten the subject matter to Kamala and that they had agreed to Kamala that they were not going to ask her about her DA record when she was in California and that they were not going to talk about some other person she was involved with that might be in trouble.
And they weren't going to fact check her.
And then they said they were only going to fact check Donald Trump.
Which is what led to her saying quite a few things that weren't true and no one said anything about it, particularly about troops being deployed overseas.
According to this, it says that this started with a claim that there was an affidavit, but I don't know that it's ever been actually presented to anyone.
Representative Dan Mauser Muser in Pennsylvania sent a Fox News interview that he would try to bring in ABC News and the whistleblower before Congress to testify about the affidavit.
Yeah, that was amplified by Marjorie Taylor Greene, who also doesn't do herself any favors.
I think they do stuff like that.
This is my take on that, when I saw all these people tweeting that the guy died in a car crash.
I was like, that might be a trap.
That one might be a trap.
I think they do stuff like that where they'll throw out a fake story and get people to share it without looking into it at all, and it turns out to be complete horseshit, and it makes the whole thing look like horseshit now.
Now it makes the affidavit, it's at least connected to horseshit.
Well, one thing that you can see really clearly is there is a ferocious effort to stop Donald Trump from becoming president again that I've never seen before.
I've seen tight races.
I've seen people very divided.
You know, I've seen it for years.
There's always been, like, a division between the Republicans and Democrats in this country, but not like this.
Not like this, where the guy almost gets killed twice, and they don't even talk about it.
You throw one out there like that and then people retweet it and those people look stupid because you retweeted something dumb and then it just weakens the public's faith in what you have to say about things and also makes the story look stupid.
Like, that story about that whistleblower will forever be connected to people retweeting the fact that he died in a car accident, even though he didn't die in a car accident.
When you're seeing the manipulation just in full bloom, just marching down the street in front of everybody and no one's freaking out about it, that's what's really weird.
If that guy's telling the truth, and they really are just sort of manipulating this and putting on theater, that's a big difference between what's happening with Trump.
So the real fear was when they started getting their claws into Twitter.
The real fear was when the government started suppressing accurate information and Twitter let them do it.
That was scary close.
So Elon buys Twitter, releases the Twitter files.
Michael Schellenberger, Matt Taibbi and all those journalists, they all uncover all these different aspects that's super disturbing and totally illegal.
Okay, one of the five known teams hunting President Trump for Butler, Pennsylvania.
Attempt was Ukrainian.
So this is Matt Gaetz talking about this.
But I think that if that hadn't happened, so if all of social media remained like staunch leftist, left wing, just giving completely into whatever propaganda the government wants to give them regarding vaccines or Ukraine or anything else with no Critical arguments about it that are accepted.
Anybody who doesn't follow the narrative, especially people like, you know, they censored people from Stanford and MIT. They were trying to tell them to pull those guys, like Jay Bhattacharya.
Censoring, like, legitimate experts in the field who aren't kooks, guys like Peter McCullough, who's the most published doctor in his field of study in human history.
And they're like, no, no, you're a kook.
You're a kook.
And we know now that that was not true, and he was correct.
Now we all know, right?
All these years later, most people kind of know what the fuck happened, even the people reluctant to admit they got duped.
If Elon does not come along and buy Twitter, I don't know where we are right now.
I really don't.
Because if they had the clamps on Twitter, and they did the same thing with Twitter that they're doing right now with other social media apps, it would be fucking awful out there.
So what they're trying to do, essentially, is get you to fall in line by getting you to self-censor because it benefits you financially.
It's a creepy form of censorship because you do it to yourself and it's kind of okay because you can't really prove that they got you to not talk about things you wanted to talk about and they can't really prove that you've followed this public narrative just because you want to keep your job.
Yeah, and if you're making a lot of money on YouTube and you're doing great, like, wow, I've got a fucking real good life now.
And then all of a sudden YouTube comes along and says, oh, you were talking about the vaccines, Sean.
Sean, we can't have COVID vaccine misinformation on our platform.
This is going to cost lives.
And some platforms make you do like a re-education thing where you have to talk to them.
And have conversations with them about what you did that may have been offensive or what you did that may have violated the terms and conditions that they have for their community.
And even though it's not perfect, because I don't think YouTube can be perfect because they're managing at scale.
In order for them to get all the pornography and the murder, you know, cartels upload murder videos to YouTube.
They're constantly trying to put out fires.
Can you imagine the amount of data that YouTube has to deal with on a daily basis?
It kind of behooves them to just give them strikes.
Threaten them.
Let's just slow everything down.
Too much of this is getting us in trouble.
We just want to make a lot of money.
I get it.
I get it.
There's only one YouTube.
It's kind of genius.
And it's a perfect setup.
The algorithm where it's constantly recommending stuff that you're interested in.
It's fucking great.
Great time waster.
But it's also a tool for shaping narratives.
And if only one narrative is pushed out there and other narratives will literally get you demonetized so you lose your ability to make a living and then possibly get your whole channel removed, which it did to many people.
That should be – all that stuff we talked about should be illegal.
That stuff should be covered in the First Amendment.
Demonetization?
No.
Because, look, if you want to have standards where you say that the advertisers that we have – we have a group of advertisers and they have requested – No shows where someone swears.
No shows where someone talks about sex.
No shows where someone talks about over-drinking or anything like that.
They just have rules.
We don't want to be associated with that.
Okay, that's totally reasonable.
But when you want to stop a channel from uploading a video because they're making an argument that maybe the lab leak hypothesis is legitimate.
And you're pulling that off the air.
Well, now what are you doing?
You're deleting an episode that's accurate about really dangerous information.
Dangerous information, not just to us, but also to the organizations that paid for these crazy gain-of-function research projects.
Like, what the fuck are you doing and what did you do?
And if you were talking about that on YouTube and even expressing your ability to just guess that maybe it came from that area.
Like, have you ever seen that Jon Stewart interview where he was on the Colbert show?
Because you should, especially some of these people are very informed people.
They were biologists, and they were talking about the very specific design of this virus, the fairing cleavage sites, and how it's very different than anything you see from a natural spillover.
They were talking about technical, very specific details, and they were getting banned.
I think Elon knows how important it is and he's got all the money in the world.
I think he'll keep that bitch running.
And I think it's also getting attached to AI now, which is going to be an insane moneymaker.
I don't think X has any problems.
I think he's going to grow it into some sort of an all-in-one app.
He'll probably have cryptocurrency on it and private messaging and phone calls.
You'll be able to shop on it.
That's what it's probably going to be, if I had to guess.
For places like Rumble, the more places like YouTube and Facebook and all these other places, the more they can find people and the more they force people into these boxes and make people toe the line if they want to make any money off of advertising or if they don't want to get their channel deleted.
The more companies like Rumble will emerge.
That's what I think.
I think there's going to be just...
Right now, Rumble's a hard sell for some folks, because they see it as like, oh, it's a right-wing fucking, like a MAGA. I'm not going on Truth Social.
It's Truth Social video.
You know, there's a lot of people that have those prejudices, but...
Russell Brand's on there.
A lot of people are on there.
It's a good platform.
And it's an important platform.
And we should support it and want it to grow.
We should want them all to grow.
Spotify's got video now.
We need more video.
Because audio's just not enough.
Just audio podcasts, you want...
You want people to share things virally.
And the virally stuff, it's all like Elon Musk when he smoked a blunt on my podcast.
That's all video.
You want video of that.
And the more we have platforms where that stuff is just free, where you can just say whatever you want, say whatever you think about anything, which really X and Rumble are the only places that I know of that you could really do that right now.
I do too, but I don't think it turns around if Kamala Harris gets into office.
I think they clamp down more.
I think the same stuff that they were trying to do with Twitter, they'll try to do with something else, with other things.
They've already openly discussed it.
You know, she's openly discussed that the same rules have to apply to Facebook, they have to apply to Twitter, and that Elon Musk could lose his privileges.
There's so many wild things that they're saying.
Tim Walz said that the First Amendment doesn't apply to misinformation or hate speech.
Well, it certainly does.
It does.
You know, sometimes people say things wrong, and the goal of the First Amendment is you say something wrong, and then this guy who's an expert says the right thing.
But there's also people that are scared of a negative response so they say what everybody wants them to say.
Somebody described this really very eloquently, and I saved it on my phone because I was like, this guy nailed it.
But essentially they were saying, especially with beta males, they don't say something because they have an opinion and they really want to express that opinion.
They say something and they consider, am I going to get in trouble if I say this?
And then if that's the case, they don't.
And am I going to get in trouble if I agree with them?
And probably not, because right-wing people don't really go after you the same way left-wing people do.
Like if you want to talk about like a woman's right to choose.
If you want to say, I agree with a woman's right to choose, but like Bill Burr's bit, you ever see that bit?
And he goes, I think I agree with a woman's right to choose, but I also think you're killing a baby.
You know, it's kind of a crazy bit.
It's really funny because he's brilliant, but it's just, that's really what it is.
But I think that if you You know, if you look at all the things that they have that distract us, all the different things that are in the news constantly, whether it's the Diddy raid or fucking J.Lo and Ben Affleck are breaking up, and you're just getting force-fed all kinds of shit while the border is wide open, while they have apps where people can get flights.
And we were talking about how hard it was for his family to legally immigrate into this country and how difficult it was to get a visa.
I mean, this is a brilliant guy.
He started Facebook.
He was one of the original guys at Facebook.
And he's this Guy who did it the right way and every step of the way there was this tremendous anxiety when he would go to get his visa renewed because he didn't know if he was going to get kicked out of the country because someone could arbitrarily go, no, not good enough.
Because he had to prove to be here that he has skills that an American doesn't have.
Why don't you just unfuck the immigration process and maybe we can get some more people in here quicker, legally, if you do that, and then we actually know who's coming in and we have documentation of who they are.
And they want them to vote, which is even crazier.
They're pumping them out into swing states.
It's so transparent.
It's happening right in front of everybody's face.
And it's a wild grab for power.
And the only people talking about are people like us, which is really crazy.
The only people that are talking about it are people that aren't really connected to some sort of executive corporation, a bunch of producers, a bunch of people telling you what to do.
All you have to do is get over here and we'll give you an EBT card, we'll set you up, go to New York City, they'll put you in a nice hotel, they'll give you free food.
And meanwhile, there's poor people in Chicago that are like, what about us?
What about American citizens that pay tax dollars?
You guys don't give a fuck about us.
You haven't done anything for us.
Why?
Because they know those people are going to vote Democrat.
That's the one Marine that survived that big suicide bombing at Abbey Gate.
Abbey Gate killed 13 Marines.
Yeah.
And so I called him.
Well, everybody wanted him to come on the show.
And I was like, I'm never going to get this fucking guy.
Like, all the media, everybody wants him.
But I was like, all right, fine, I'll reach out.
So hit him on the gram and messaged right back and he got in and he's like, man, he's like, I'm so glad that you reached out to me.
He's like, I was literally just praying with my fiance that you would reach out because he had just did an ABC Good Morning America interview.
Interviewed for seven hours.
They released five seconds of that interview because it made the administration look so fucking bad.
They wouldn't air it.
So I got him on, kept getting dinged, you know, by YouTube.
They didn't like the real footage, which was actually, like, from his cell phone that we put.
We do previews and shit.
But, man, like, to have, like, his, you know...
Testimony about what happened that day, and then the care that afterwards, which was a fucking atrocious, you know?
I watched this guy at my studios on the second story, and I'd watch a, you know, 23-year-old kid hobble up those fucking stairs with one leg, one arm, all kinds of shit going on in his intestine.
I mean, I was like, man, what the fuck, man?
This didn't even have to happen.
They had the guy.
They had the fucking guy in the sights.
They could have killed him.
And, you know, nobody...
Nobody gave him permission.
You know, maybe they...
I mean, I can't backseat quarterback it, but maybe they shouldn't have asked.
You know, before we got into the actual incident, he was talking about...
You know, like moms trying to throw their babies over the wall and getting caught up in razor wire and just seeing a fucking baby dangle there by the leg.
Yeah.
You know, it's...
And there's like no...
You know, there's no repercussions for how that went down.
The media just wants to fucking cover it up.
And so I started digging deep, and I teamed up with the former CA targeter, Sarah Adams, and then a really good friend of mine, Scott Mann.
We went over to Vienna to interview this guy, Ahmad Massoud, who's the leader, the commander of the Northern Alliance out there.
It's like the resistance.
It's kind of fighting the Taliban.
You know, the Taliban pretty much took over government in Afghanistan.
So, we got a bunch of intel from Massoud and, you know, like, still kind of looping all the way back around to the southern border.
I mean, so once Taliban took control of all of our shit, I mean, this could go on for a while, but...
So now what they're doing is they have the passport office over there just making legitimate passports to—now there's 21 terrorist organizations over there training.
Hansa bin Laden, who we were told was killed, is actually fucking alive.
And he's marrying into all these other terrorist networks.
So he married Mullah Omar's daughter.
He married...
Who else?
He married into all these different terrorist networks.
And so these guys used to be like competitors, kind of.
Just like the UFO guys.
They all hate each other, but they all have the one common theme, like disclosure.
These guys, the one common thing is, let's go take over the Western world.
So he is basically Hanza bin Laden...
Is married into all these terrorist organizations.
Now they all have one common goal to come over to, you know, the Western world and ruin our way of life.
And so what they're doing is they're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office, creating them legitimate, real passports.
And then they sprinkle them they get them flights into all over South Central America, and then they funnel them up Through the Darien Gap Jesus into the end of the US and so you know there's there is there is zero I don't give a fuck what the FBI or any of these people are saying they have a
There is zero way to track how many of these fuckers have come in to the U.S. And so, you know, now what we're going to see is, like, October 7th-style attacks like we just saw in Israel in the mall in Russia.
And everybody's like, oh, you know, why hasn't it happened yet?
I mean, they basically told Border Patrol, stand down.
Like, do not do your fucking job.
We're going to blast you.
I mean, remember the guy on the horse that they said was whipping people and it wound up being like the reins of the horse?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's by design, you know, from the government, but I don't...
I think that they're...
Look, I think that the government is more incompetent than it's ever been before, and I think they have one common goal, and I think the goal is voting, you know?
They want them to vote, but I don't think that they...
I don't think they're competent enough to realize the death and destruction and the other repercussions that we're going to face by keeping that border open.
Because they don't have anybody that...
They don't have anybody with any experience that's—they don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on that's telling them, like, hey, this is what's going to happen.
Well, I mean, China, you know, we have those – we have – you know, we get those big – everything is imported from China, and we have these huge transformers.
You can tell me to shut up if you already know all this shit.
But all of those transformers are imported from China.
And they're not checked.
They don't even fucking check them for malware or Trojan horses or anything.
And it would take...
I mean, these Transformers, it's not like the little box outside your house, you know, the green box.
It's...
I mean, they have to take overpasses out just to transport these things.
So you're talking years, and I think the number was like nine.
If they took out nine Transformers, then the entire U.S. would be out of power.
They undercut the competition to give us cell phone towers and all sorts of things.
They position them around military bases.
Mike Baker was explaining all of it to me.
And I'm like, how are they letting this go through?
Is it incompetence?
Is it fools running it?
Are they corrupt?
How did they do that?
I mean, one of the things that really fucked us, we got away from manufacturing, and we relied on all these countries, and we really found that out during COVID, when you couldn't get shipments.
It was like, whoa, wait a minute, how much of our shit is made over there?
Like, everything?
Like, how much medicine is made overseas?
How many different things that we need, that we constantly use, we don't even know how to make?
Charge me a phone where I know that people get union wages, they get healthcare, they get paid correctly, they can live a good life, and they work, normal hours.
They don't have to sleep in a fucking bunk like they do in that Foxconn building when they have nets all around the building to keep people from jumping from the roofs.
The Chinese factories where they make iPhones are so fucked, the people are so distraught that they put all these fencing with giant nets all around the buildings because so many people were jumping to their death that they decided we'll just catch them with nets.
Most people are, like, putting on a part of their bill to pay a little bit of it off every day, and you really don't need to fucking switch phones every year.
Like, everybody does, but you don't need to.
It's stupid.
Like, I have a iPhone 11 that I use sometimes, like, one of my numbers.
I mean, there would have to be a large concerted effort, but the problem is it took decades to go away.
It'll probably take slightly longer to come back, you know, because there's got to be planning and funding and people have to make long-term investments.
You know, I try to look at it honestly but also go, I think most people are good people.
I really do.
I really believe that.
Even most of these people that are walking in from Guatemala, I'd do it too, 100%.
If I was living in the middle of nowhere and you told me, hey, America's letting people in, you can get a landscaper job, you can make 20 bucks an hour, I'd be like, what?
I think most people are good people and they just want a better life.
And I think the more we unite under that idea and stop buying into this bullshit that, like, if either side is correct, that it's the end of democracy.
I think we have to, like, stop all that tribal nonsense that's happening between the left and the right because people are just subscribing to ideologies and getting captured in them just like a religious fervor.
Like, they think that they're doing...
The only thing that could possibly be done to save us all and that the other side is a dire threat.
That's why like something like 24% of Americans think it would be a good thing if Donald Trump got shot.
That people would think that violence by an assassin would be a good thing on a former president.
Like, we're that fucked.
But I think that that's just a lot of media manipulation and a lot of fucking, a lot of people getting riled up and living in these echo chambers and these bubbles.
But I think, ultimately, at the core, most people are good people.
And I think if we had some wins, if some things like that did start getting built, and they did start bringing back more American manufacturing, and people start getting excited about the idea that America becomes not just a place of innovation and art and creativity, but also, like, we start manufacturing great shit again.
But once they have it completely dialed in where there's no glitch, because there's going to be some weird glitches in context and cultural things that aren't going to make sense if you translate it, that'll be weird.
But once they get it dialed in pretty good, it'll be great for everybody.
It'll open up the world.
I want to know what these folks are saying in Russia.
I'd like to listen to a Russian podcast.
I've watched some Russian news things and seen the teleprompter rolling.
It's like they're always mocking us and make fun of us for having 78 genders.
I probably shouldn't be talking about my direction that I'm going to go, but fuck it, whatever.
That's what I want to do.
I want to start going and talking to all these foreign dignitaries and getting a different perspective on what we're doing.
I don't think we're the good guys.
You know, I don't agree with a lot of the shit that I was involved in, you know, as a SEAL or a CIA contractor.
And, I mean, like BRICS. Are you familiar with BRICS? No.
Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
I think, don't quote me on this, I think they have 22 countries now.
It's kind of like...
It's kind of like a counter to NATO. It's all these countries that are tired of us, tired of the tariffs, tired of the weaponization of the U.S. dollar.
And so basically what they're trying to do is throw the U.S. currency off the world stage and pull it and use Chinese yen.
And, you know, I mean, that would destroy us if all trade went to If the world reserve currency went to the Chinese yen, that would destroy our economy.
But they're gaining a lot of traction on this.
And so, yeah, I would love to go to any one of these 22 countries and talk to them and just ask, like...
Why are you doing this?
Why are you doing this?
Because that gives...
Nobody's fucking talking about this shit, you know?
But they're always posting, like, updates about it and what's going on.
And so I think it would be really important for somebody to go around and start talking to, you know, getting another perspective rather than what, you know, Fox and CNN have to say about it.
I mean, I used to get, like, really upset when people would, you know, talk about, you know, the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and...
When I was still in, you know, and I got so pissed off, I've moved out of the fucking country.
And I was like, I don't even want to listen to this shit anymore.
But after diving in and looking at the policies that came out and kind of, you know, it's kind of like when It's just reflecting on some of the policy decisions and stuff that didn't really make sense at the time when I was in, that now I look back and I'm like, man, what the, like, I didn't have time to think about it then, because it was, okay, go on the next stop, go on the next mission, whatever, right?
But now, like, looking back through the podcast and talking to, you know, my podcast started with all my former colleagues and mill and agency.
Nobody thinks we should have been there, especially Iraq.
I wonder how long they can keep that up with the internet because the distrust in the media is at an all-time high.
It has to be higher than it's ever been in human history.
It's never been in the history of printed words right now.
More distrust than ever.
And at the same time, you have these independent people that have become bigger than the media.
That's never happened before.
There's never been a thing where just an app that you get on your phone has 30 times more views than the top show at CNN. That's never happened before.
But now that's the world that we live in.
And so propaganda is not effective anymore.
And it's also the delivery method that they use.
It sucks.
They sit there with makeup on, with perfect clothes, and they said, right now, in Syria, and they start reading these things, and they're reading them off the teleprompter, and you know that that person could be working at fucking Entertainment Tonight.
They could be working at any other show.
They're just a talking head.
They know they're the mouthpiece for some giant corporation.
No one thinks that's the real news anymore.
You have to be like old boomers who are like real tired.
Like those old liberal boomers, they're still like MSNBC to the death.
It's such a wild thing to say, and it's such a wild thing to do, like a supervillain in a Batman movie, like some billionaire guy who likes to hire the most progressive district attorneys that's going to let people out of jail and then fund the next person who's more to the left of that person and just keep pushing it, keep pushing it, keep pushing it until you've got tents everywhere, violence in the streets, you know?
I think a lot of rich people feel guilty, and they get into philanthropy, and it also is a good way to cover their ass and make them look like better people.
And the people that really go after you, if they don't think you're a good person, are generally the left.
So if you could, like, throw them a little cheddar, you're like, keep on your side.
He was right, especially if you don't want to censor people.
Like, it's interesting how people...
React to it that he's ruined Twitter.
He's destroyed Twitter No, he's he's you could still block these crazy people if you want you could still not see them if you want yeah, but what he's allowed is everyone to talk and Everyone.
And if you don't think that that's good, you're very short-sighted.
And you don't understand human beings.
Like, you cannot have human beings censored because someone is going to be in power and they're going to take advantage of that censorship.
They're not different than us.
They're not these incredibly benevolent beings who just want everything to work out well.
It's a crazy time to be a person, to watch all this go down, and at the same time AI is being developed, and we're not even exactly sure where it's at right now.
At any moment in time, it could be a sentient force.
One of the things that they put, this AI program, they gave it a task and they gave it a specific allotted amount of time and it couldn't achieve it in the allotted amount of time so it gave itself more time.
And then I started looking into it, and it's not just the cell phones.
It's routers.
It's all sorts of things.
They found third-party inputs and different pieces of technology and different ways that they can exploit and use this stuff to siphon information from networks.
Like if they're attached to a network that's at a university and they're doing research projects, they can siphon that information.
They also embed students in these places that are beholden to the CCP. These students rise up, get their PhDs, and some of them wind up going back to China.
The whole thing is really strange because we're such an open, loose society that we're vulnerable to these kind of attacks.
You can't buy shit in China.
You want to buy land in China?
Good luck, fuckface.
They won't sell you a house.
They're not going to sell you land near the military base.
You out of your fucking mind.
But in America, we're so goofy, we let China buy up farmland.
Well, not only that, like, how are you saying, like California, for example, California is not going to have internal combustion engine cars by 2035. By 2035, you have to buy only electric cars.
I mean, it can be reversed for sure, and it probably will be once the Great War happens.
But if you're going to say that and you have a grid that you have to shut down, like you have to do brownouts every summer because of people using the air conditioning.
And after he said that, after Newsom said this about this thing about 2035, within two months they asked people to stop charging their Teslas because it was wrecking the grid.
You're asking people to stop charging their electric cars, and you're not doing anything to strengthen your grid?
Like, what are you doing to beef this up for 2035?
Do you have some immense project that you're building that is going to make a much more sustainable, much more robust grid that's going to be able to handle 30 million electric cars in your state?
it see if it's a Samsung god damn it I was just reading it too Is this multiple semiconductor manufacturing projects delayed in the U.S.? That's a month old.
Allowing Samsung to secure lucrative clients in the US. Unfortunately, despite...
Progressing with the chip-making plant, the company has faced a challenge that has become all too familiar with the entity, ensuring healthy yields, particularly with its 2nm GAA process.
The situation surrounds 3nm GAA is not pretty either, with Business Korea reporting that Samsung's yields for this technology stand at 50%, whereas TSMC has a significant lead in As its 3 nanometer yields are in the 60-70% range.
This article is saying that these NVIDIA chips, which I guess are ours because it's a Silicon Valley-based company, puts the U.S. way further ahead of China.
The gap between China and US leading in artificial intelligence chip technology is set to widen even further after Nvidia founder and chief executive Jensen Huang unveiled next generation processors for what he called the new era of generative AI and robotics used in industries.
But we're right, but we're not making those.
But the thing is, the other part of it is, like, they're going to get access to this stuff, which is, this is the really creepy thing that people keep admitting, is that it's very porous.
The top secret information that these companies have, espionage, is, like, super common.
It's so valuable.
It's so lucrative that, you know, they don't even, sometimes they probably don't even know when stuff is getting siphoned over there.
Well, I mean, you have to just think, I mean, it's Chinese, from what I understand, it's Chinese law that anything, any business that is taking, that is being conducted within China, If it helps, if the technology helps the military or could potentially help the military, then CCP has access.
But this woman, they've developed some sort of anti-gravity technology.
And I've always wondered, when we're looking at these things that people are calling UAPs or whatever you want to call them, like, how many of those are super sophisticated drones?
It's not zero.
It's not zero percent.
I'm not saying that there's not a real phenomenon going on that people are seeing that defies science and logic and might be a super intelligent creature from somewhere else or a super intelligent thing from somewhere else, if it's even biological at this point.
It might be that all life eventually becomes digital life and all life eventually becomes some sort of artificial intelligence or at least connected to artificial intelligence.
That might be like the progression of biological life that eventually creates something way better than itself, and that's what propagates the universe.
And if someone in this world has developed some sort of technology that's similar to what they use, that's a huge advantage.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the thing that gets me about all this UAP talk.
I'm like, if some other country had, or if we had, something that was just a game changer, something that didn't require any propulsion systems at all, it relied on gravity and it bends space and time and can instantaneously traverse between one point in the sky and another.
That kind of technology is nuts.
And if that is in the hands of the United States government, it would make sense that it would help them to spread this UFO nonsense.
I think there is a possibility a very strong possibility that there's life out there and That if I was life out there and I was much more advanced than us I would definitely visit us and there's also the fact that the the sightings kicked up in a huge way after 1945 after the the atomic bomb After they,
you know, did the Trinity experiment and after they dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, all those nuclear tests that they did in the 50s and 60s, that's exactly when the sightings start ramping up.
And if I was an intelligent life force From another planet, I would go, oh, these crazy monkeys have nukes.
And then we'd have to, you know, you'd have to think, okay, do we intervene?
Well, if they blow themselves up, it will take so long for that planet to get back to a point where it has intelligent life again.
If they kill every person on this planet and we're back to shrews and mice and fucking a couple of monkeys in the jungle, how long before you can get a city again?
How long before you can get a cell phone again?
How many millions of years does it take?
And if I was an intelligent life force that realized that this is an error that can be corrected, I would probably correct it.
I'd probably put a stop to the nukes.
I'd probably make a show of force, hover over military bases, shut down all of their electronics, just to let them know.
And there's girls that were pregnant and, you know, like newly pregnant and got abducted and all of a sudden they weren't pregnant anymore and they couldn't figure out what happened.
John Mack was a psychologist who was at Harvard who wrote this book.
I think it's called Abduction.
And it's all like him interviewing people that have had these kind of experiences happen to them.
And this book was in the 1990s, right?
I don't think these people got to share stories where they could come up with the same story organically.
Like today, you've heard so many stories online about UFO abductions or crash retrieval or something that you could formulate in your own mind a dream that seemed like these things that you had heard over and over and over again.
But when you go back to like Betty and Barney Hill, which were one of the first people that ever got abducted by aliens, They have the same sort of story as all these different people that didn't know anything about the phenomenon, didn't know anything about UFO abductions, and then all of a sudden had one event in their life that freaked them out for the rest of their life.
And they take them through hypnotic progression.
These people should hear the recordings of Betty and Barney Hill.
They're like yelling and screaming.
They're freaking out.
Like, no one thought about being abducted by aliens in the 1950s or whenever that was.
Yeah, I'd seen a couple of clips of him, but I'd never seen a long-form interview of him until your show.
That was a great episode.
He's fun.
He was on my friend Andrew Schultz's podcast, and Andrew was like, we're not going to check nothing.
We're just going to let him go.
No fact checks.
Let's just have fun and see.
But when he starts talking about those ancient tablets, he's an expert in the deciphering of all those ancient tablets, and he's got a lot of information on that.
Those things are fascinating because it's all the same stories even back then.
These flying ships and all these different depictions of things that came from the sky and these giants and the Anunnaki and all these different things that came from some other place that had interaction with human beings.
Yeah, he kind of mixes it with biblical stuff, right?
That's kind of, I don't know, that's what I lean towards with all this stuff, to be honest with you, is maybe, I think there's some consciousness aspect, I think there's, I think it is the afterlife.
It's possible that whatever these things are that come here, they're from some sort of another dimension and that we just don't have the ability to interact with that.
We're limited in our capacity as a biological entity to interact with these dimensions that are real.
But we just can't access them.
We can't get to it.
We don't have the frequency.
We don't have what it is.
But in some cases under duress, under some situations, in some, you know, just like a person can be hypnotized, just like a person can go into a trance.
I think there's a way every now and then that people can kind of access these realms.
And I think that's probably what some of these entities are.
I think people are probably having real experiences with something that probably is real, but that normally you cannot interact with.
I did this show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.
And we had remote viewers on.
We tried to get them to do things.
They couldn't really...
It wasn't really effective.
But I'm also like, okay, this is an unnatural environment.
It's a television show.
It's like weird pressure.
You know, skeptical people that are like looking at this.
And I don't know if they're the real...
I think it's probably a skill that can be developed...
But I don't know how consistent it is.
You know, it's like, I don't believe in psychics, but I do believe that sometimes you just know things.
And sometimes you get a premonition.
And I think the connection that people have with each other is not as simple as like, you call your friend up, hey, I haven't talked to you in forever.
I think we're connected somehow quantumly.
I think we're all connected in some sort of a weird way.
And that's why, like, you're thinking about someone and they call you sometimes.
You know, people say, oh, that's just a coincidence.
Man, I don't know about all that.
Because sometimes it's someone I haven't talked to for fucking years.
When they were saying that, they didn't really understand what the brain does and what parts of the brain do, and they thought that we're only using 10%.
No, it's like different parts of the brain.
Have very different functions and under different circumstances, different parts of the brain are activated.
I think just we have a limited understanding of the actual function of the brain, like the whole thing and how it's making chemicals and making psychedelic compounds and hormones and epinephrine and norepinephrine and all this different...
Dopamine and serotonin and how it regulates your system and changes the way you interact with the world.
It's all weird stuff, man.
I don't think they completely have enough—like, they can't recreate a human brain, you know?
But the way he, you know, I asked him, I'm like, well, how do you, like, how does it, how did it happen?
Do you think, does everybody have this?
Or, you know, I was just pinging him with questions.
And he said he thinks we all have had it since the beginning.
And that, I mean, he was basically saying, if you look at how animals communicate, they kind of communicate telepathically.
And he was talking about, you know, caveman times, you know, used to point at shit and grunt and nod heads and look at things and everybody would know what you're thinking about.
And he goes, and then we started traveling in groups.
And then language was kind of And he goes, language actually slowed down our initial form of communication, which was, you know, it wasn't maybe as descriptive, but it was just as deliberate as speaking a language.
And then you introduce technology, and basically what he was kind of saying is, you know, that our brains have been kind of dubbed down from, you know, thousands and thousands of years of Technology coming out and language and all these other things.
What is the reason why the appendix is going away?
I think that's what it is.
I think it's a change in diet over time has made it unnecessary.
So it's like slowly being phased out of the human anatomy.
And that's why it ruptures sometimes.
But I don't think it has a real function anymore.
What it used to have?
Oh, here it goes.
The appendix is kind of helping us in two ways, both with the gut.
It helps fight off invading pathogens.
That's one thing that is true.
When they take out your appendix, your immune system is not as good.
But also to repopulate the gut with this beneficial bacteria after gastrointestinal issues.
So how did the appendix form and why is the appendix...
There's a thing that was...
Speculated about what the origin of the appendix is and why we don't use it the same way we used to.
Why do humans have an appendix, worm-shaped?
Modern researchers believe the appendix has many key...
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Worm-shaped tube attached to the large intestine in the human body.
It's an organ that is credited with very little significance and often removed indiscriminately to avoid complications due to infection.
However, modern researchers believe the appendix has many key functions in the human body and it protects the body's internal environment from infection.
What is the original origin of the appendix though?
That was the thing that I had read.
I think it was something about processing fiber.
Vestigial.
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Support the theory that the appendix of vestigial origin that was once used by our herbivorous ancestors.
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It was found that in herbivorous vertebrates, the appendix is comparatively larger and it helped in the digestion of tough herbivorous foods such as bark of a tree.
So, the thing is, like, we're changing, right?
We don't eat like that anymore, so it's changing, and its function changes.
And it makes sense that if we don't use the mind the same way our ancestors did before language, we'd probably lose this connection that animals do seem to have with each other.
I think technology certainly distracts human beings from human interactions and kids today are growing up more socially unbalanced and more their progress is retarded.
There's something about the use of technology That is certainly limiting kids' abilities to interact with each other person to person.
And over time, that's probably going to be the norm.
And if you wanted to think about the rise of spectrum disorders and lack of emotional connectivity and empathy that people have that seem to have those, especially on the far ends of the spectrum, and then...
Accentuate that with added technology, constant technology.
Each technology is more and more invasive.
The population of people that have these problems, it's almost like we're moving towards becoming a different kind of person.
Yeah, you know, this person that works for me turned me on to this podcast the other day and it was talking about how, this is unverified, but it was still a fascinating conversation.
They were talking about how in, I can't remember the amount of years, but humans will begin to lose their peripheral vision because they're looking at a phone so much.
That we're evolving.
I guess you could, I don't know if I would call that evolving.
Dude, do you want to hear the best story I've ever heard from that?
So I got one of my best friends, former Green Bray, worked with him at the agency for a long time.
He was blown up, survived like the worst fucking car bomb I've ever seen.
Like got up, walked away, dude's head's like right next to the car.
Then gets out.
I don't want to mention his name because I'm going to bring up some symptoms.
But then he got fucking shot in the head by a.38 special round in the middle of the road and survived it.
And I've stayed with him through this whole process.
Anyways, couldn't walk without a cane.
Was bedridden five, six days out of every week.
Hadn't had sex with his wife in over two fucking years.
Couldn't go outside without sunglasses on because of the light sensitivity.
And I'd been telling him, hey, dude, you have to go down and do this Ibogaine thing.
Nothing else is working.
I think this shit's going to change.
I wasn't even aware of all this stuff.
I knew about the bedridden stuff and...
But he was hiding a lot of that shit from me, and his wife got and called me, and so I got him piped in to this program, went down, did Ibogaine, and did 5-MeO, left his fucking cane there, went home, banged his wife, doesn't need the sunglasses anymore, And is not bedridden.
And that was about six months ago, and I just talked to him the other day.
But anyways, but yeah, he like went out of his way after the after we recorded.
He was like, Hey, dude, like, you should really fucking think about going down there.
And I was like, Alright, well, you know, I've done all the I've done like a ton of research.
I've talked to a bunch of guys about it.
I understand like how it works now.
And so Fuck it, I'll go.
And so I went down there because I just wanted to be more in the moment with my family.
I got two little kids now.
And so I went down there and that was like, I felt like I was kind of like through the PTSD type stuff and maybe not.
But I just wanted to get rid of anxiety and be in the moment with my family and da-da-da-da-da.
And so I went down and did the Ibogaine thing.
And we took these pills.
And, like, I didn't get a lot of visuals, but the first visual I got was I was just sitting there, like, looking in this mirror, shaking this fucking maraca.
And my head's, like, I was like, alright, this shit is not working.
And then I was like, alright, it's definitely fucking kicking in, so I'm gonna...
So I'm going to lay back.
And it was kind of, to me, like the whole experience maybe, I guess I just lost total concept of time.
It didn't feel, it was like 12 hours, but it didn't feel like 12 hours.
It didn't really feel like five minutes either.
But I got like this life review kind of thing.
I just had these TV screens.
It looked like all black...
Like, you're in space or something, and then these two lines of TV screens that were going in my peripheral vision, and what was playing in those TV screens was...
And it was moving, like, at kind of a slow pace.
And so, like, I could see what was going on in the TV screens through my peripheral, but if I tried to concentrate on any one particular thing, then they would, like, all just disappear until I stopped trying to...
Like, concentrate on one thing, and then they'd all appear again.
And I could, like, look at it through my peripheral, and I'd be like, oh, you know, that was in Baghdad.
That's when I was five years old, and my dad was, like, yelling at me, and that was this.
And it was like, but it wasn't like, I wasn't, like, reliving traumatic events.
So I just let them pass, and then I went into some other stage, which I don't really understand, but it was a bunch of these walls of stuffed animals, and I was kind of going through this maze.
And then the last thing I talked about before I... Before I did the experience was China.
So then I had like this horrible thing about the Chinese invasion.
But what came out of that, like it's like, oh, well, that doesn't sound very good.
Well, yeah, what came out of that, I lost 11 pounds.
In literally one week.
It's a week-long type of experience.
I lost 11 fucking pounds.
It's also a heavy metals detoxer, by the way.
So that's probably...
Probably had some heavy metals blocking me up or something.
But the whites of my eyes cleared up.
And it wasn't just me.
I journaled all this shit down.
And then I didn't tell my wife any of this stuff.
And I came home and she's like, your eyes look like a lot lighter.
Like the whites look a lot lighter, whiter.
And my brown eyes looked like they had lightened up.
I mean, how many people are suffering through opioid addiction?
It's an enormous number.
And if there was a thing that we are aware of that could help all of our citizens that are struggling right now listening to this as people are struggling, and there's a thing, and it's illegal in this country.
As far as I know, I don't think people are dying from Ibogaine.
You know, Ibogaine was, it was very funny that Hunter chose this, but Hunter S. Thompson used that during, was it the McGovern, the McGovern elections?
It was like 72, whatever it was, and when he rode Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail.
So he created a rumor that Ed Muskie, who was one of the candidates, had a severe Ibogaine addiction and that Brazilian scientists were coming to visit him and give him this treatment.
It became such a rumor and it spread so far and it started affecting him and he was giving campaign speeches and he was denying it and he was all sweating and he looked like a maniac and Hunter essentially derailed this guy's campaign.
By saying that he was addicted to Ibogaine, of all things.
I've heard of people that get addicted to certain psychedelics, but I think there's people that do psychedelics to learn more about themselves, and I think there's people that do it to escape.
And I think they escape reality with it, and then they choose that as their reality, and they do it way too much.
I think there's abuse with everything.
I think you can certainly abuse at least some psychedelics.
But the benefits of them far outweigh the negatives, and there's a lot of people that are hurting in this country, and they should have access to all the different things that could help them.
I'm speaking for the veteran population right now, but why can't you just let us fucking get better?
Everybody knows the 22 a day, which is actually like 40-something a day, veterans that are killing themselves, and this shit is a fucking game-changer.
But I don't think Big Pharma is going to allow it.
And not only that, but forget about the organization.
Forget that there are people out there, probably like Iran and maybe state actors or who knows, that's trying to kill Trump.
What about just the fucking general kooks that have been buying all this rhetoric every day that he's a threat to democracy and they think that this is the one thing that can give them meaning in their life, the one great act that they can accomplish to go out and kill Trump?
And also like weirdly chaotic in the sense that this is all happening at the same time as the rise of podcasts and social media and And new ways to get information.
So more people are aware of how fuck we are now than during the Vietnam War.
People were against the Vietnam War, and they're against fighting the troops in the Vietnam War, but they didn't really know what was going on.
They didn't have full access to it like we have now.
You see, you know, a lot of governors aligning, sending National Guard down here to Texas, you know, to try to secure the border.
You got, you know, these extreme...
Look, I don't...
Whether you agree with me or not, they're extreme.
And so, you know, like the abortion stuff.
Like, you got states that are making these, like, super harsh abortion laws.
Like, we're going to hunt you down if you get one and throw your ass in prison.
And I think...
I can't remember how many states now have passed constitutional carries, like...
I can't remember.
I think there's only like a state or two left that need constitutional carry.
I mean, I think basically what I'm getting at is I think the lines are kind of like being drawn right now or the alliances are kind of forming up like, hey, let's pass these super red laws, these super left law or blue laws.
And it'll drive everybody out of the state that we want.
I don't know what the solution to any of this stuff is I hope it's a greater understanding that we develop over time, where we figure out how to communicate better and work together.
And I think some of that can be facilitated through AI, if it's done correctly, if it's like a real open source AI. Where people can get a real better understanding of the actual mechanisms instead of like whatever beliefs you have and why the system works the way it is.
I think one way would just be having podcasters and journalists I mean, how the fuck would you do this?
But, you know, one thing, like on my show, and I kind of went off the rails a little bit the last month, I got a little probably more political than I wanted.
I was like doing camping stove reviews and I bought a bunch of fucking alpacas and put them in my front yard and I thought I was gonna be a farmer and like...
Yeah.
And then...
But you know what I did?
I was like...
I was like, dude...
I'm so fucking tired of my guys killing themselves and going into depression and suicide attempts.
I got sick of the same talking heads on TV kind of documenting what was going on over there.
It was a bunch of people who had never even stepped foot in any of those war zones documenting what happened over there.
So I just started and I built like, I don't know, maybe 250,000 subs on YouTube from like gun stuff.
And so I started.
I was like, I got to one.
We got to document the history to there's a major fucking suicide epidemic happening.
So let's talk about some guys that had attempted I mean, I tried to kill myself, but let's get some guys that have really been through it, dug themselves out of it, and so we're documenting history the way it happened.
We are talking about the veteran crisis that's going on and how people got out of it.
And then it also and then at the end of the every episode was, hey, let's like let's talk about your business, you know, because it's stories what sell.
So let's let's do the whole story and get everybody like super attached to you.
Let's document the history.
Talk about your vulnerabilities, what it was like retransitioning back into civilian life, how fucked up it was, how you ruined your family, how you tried to kill yourself, all that shit, how you came out of it.
And then let's talk about your business.
And so, I mean, these guys would come on and, you know, their business would, like, jet launch overnight, which I'm sure you, you know...
Dude, I just like doing it.
I liked fucking helping people.
But I'll tell you, it was awesome.
I loved it.
There's nothing else I'd rather do.
I started feeling a lot of resentment to my guests because they would come on my show And then they would, like, pass me up business-wise like that.
And I was like, fuck, man.
Like, what the fuck do I have to do to make a business out of this shit?
Like, I'm great at, like, jet-launching everybody else's shit, but I'm not making any fucking money here, and I got a family to support, and this isn't gonna work out.
And then, I don't know what happened, man, but then something just, like, switched.
Like, God just stepped in and was like, you're doing good shit.
Answering questions, like with a friend of mine, my friend Brian, who I started with.
We were just fucking around.
We thought it'd be fun to just do for fun.
You know, I always wanted to do a radio show, but I thought no one's ever gonna give me a radio show.
You know, when I was touring doing clubs back in the day where you would have to do morning radio, I would like to do it.
Because I have these crazy things that I'm interested in, crazy stories.
So I'd come in, do these morning radio shows.
And I'd be like, wow, what a great job that would be.
Morning radio game.
I'd fuck up and swear.
That wouldn't work.
And then the rise of podcasts happened.
And, you know, Adam Carolla had one.
And, you know, there's a bunch of other ones.
And then Opie and Anthony, Anthony Cumia from Opie and Anthony, started doing his own show called Live from the Compound.
Where he's doing karaoke, holding a machine gun, and he's out of his fucking mind.
He built a television studio in his basement.
And I was like, fuck, he can do that and do that online.
I need to start doing something.
So we started out just doing this little...
Oh, and also the Tom Green show.
Tom Green had his own internet talk show.
And I was a guest on it long before my podcast.
I was like, you just got to figure out how to make money out of this.
Like, you could see the seeds of my podcast being planted while I was on his show.
I was like, this is amazing.
No executives, no one talking to you.
And then I actually even was in talks with the company that was doing it with him to do my own thing with them.
But I just decided to do it on my own.
I'm like, I don't want to do nothing with nobody.
I wanted it to just be 100% me.
Just fucking around.
And in the beginning, all my friends were like, what the fuck are you doing?
Like, why are you wasting your time?
They'd come over to my house, and my kids were really young at the time, so, like, in the early days, like, you would hear, we were in one of my spare bedrooms with a desk set up, and you'd hear, Mom!
Mommy, she took my thing.
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You hear that in the background when the kids are arguing with each other.
So it was, you know, from that, move into like a little studio.
We rented a little office space somewhere and then moved into a warehouse and got a real studio and then started having security there and then started, well, I should have a fucking gym here.
Let's put a gym in and started, you know, bringing in guys to train with and then it just got big.
All organic.
I never did ads for it.
I never did put a billboard up.
I never went on other people's podcasts and said, please watch my podcast.
But the way you do it and the way I do it is I think that's why it's interesting.
Because I can tell, like, when you're talking to that guy that was talking about the direct energy weapons in Antarctica, all that crazy shit, like, you wanted to hear what the guy had to say.
We had these shit cameras that had, like, 30-minute timers, so I was...
Mike Glover was my first guest, and so my wife was, like, running back and forth, resetting these 30-minute fucking timer cameras, and I'm trying to run the sound and listen to what the hell Mike's saying, and I'm like...
We need more voices like yours out there, more different people that are doing the same kind of thing, following their own interests, talking to people honestly, having these long-form podcasts.
The one with the guy studying the UFOs, I think that's like four and a half hours long, right?