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Sept. 16, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2202 - Tom Segura
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unidentified
Yeah, I've watched so many people get their legs broken.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I see it in like jujitsu videos all the time where someone's like going for a heel hook and then you hear this crack.
And then the guy screams in agony, and then everybody's like, oh, this is horrible.
tom segura
Yeah, and there's just a million arm wrestling videos.
joe rogan
I saw a guy and a girl arm wrestling, and the guy broke the girl's arm.
I'm like, what the fuck, man?
tom segura
Oh, fuck.
I was just like, how does that...
Because I don't want to do it ever again, really.
joe rogan
Arm wrestling?
tom segura
No, I think it's stupid for me to get involved in.
But even when I'm just like, well, why is this happening?
And there was these two...
Competitors, like pro arm wrestlers, were like, well, you never want to get away from your body.
So they're like, arms break once they're out here.
So you always, they're like, keep your arm in tight.
Like, arms don't break when you're here.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
But once you get extension, they're like, that's when...
joe rogan
It's the dumbest macho thing that we do.
tom segura
For sure.
I did it with you once.
I did it with you in Louisville.
Do you remember?
joe rogan
No.
tom segura
It was a horrifying experience.
It was after, we did a show in Louisville at the club.
I think it was tied to a UFC, one of those.
It was back in the day.
And we went to a bar afterwards.
We were shooting pool.
Somebody said arm wrestling.
I was like, and you're like, you want to do it?
I was like, sure.
Dude, I couldn't believe how strong you were.
I mean, I know you're strong, but I was like, you're like, go.
And I was like, I am going, dude.
Like, I couldn't get any fucking movement.
joe rogan
Well, you're a fucking dude that works for you.
That was the most ridiculous.
tom segura
That was hilarious.
joe rogan
Do you think he just does that because he just wants attention?
tom segura
No, I think, I mean, there might be a little bit of that, but I really think, that's Annie.
He has this thing...
It's probably just, you know, it's part of his wiring.
It's probably gotten him somewhere in life in some ways.
joe rogan
Just being delusional.
tom segura
Being delusional about, I can't lose.
Like, if somebody says I can beat you, they can't beat me.
And you're like, what are you talking about?
And then when you were pulling up, I was like, why don't you fucking ask him?
Because I already knew what was going to happen.
And then he also loves to gamble.
I was like, yeah, I'll take that action.
So, yeah, that's Eni.
joe rogan
But he's not even a strong guy.
That's why it was so confusing.
I was looking at him like, you want to arm wrestle?
You're not even a strong guy.
There's probably a lot of things you could do better than me.
But this one...
tom segura
This one you got.
joe rogan
This is silly.
tom segura
This one's silly.
It is funny how our capacity for delusion is just incredible.
joe rogan
It can serve you well if you get lucky, right?
tom segura
Yeah.
I think about one of my friends...
Was diagnosed with stage four lung cancer, and he found out at stage four.
Right?
Like, had to go to the hospital.
Like, his wife was like, you're fucking sweating, and you're, you know, heavy breathing.
It was after one of my shows.
And so they go, and then the next day, they're like stage four lung cancer.
And all the doctors were like, you know, say goodbye to your friend, you know?
And his brother...
I found the expert in this specific type of...
Because there's in oncology really specialized types of cancer and treatment.
And I remember talking to him and he was like, I'm going to beat this thing.
And I was looking at him and I was like, you're so stupid.
You're definitely going to die.
But the thing is, I saw that he believed it.
A thousand percent believed it.
And as he got better, I was like, this guy's fucking delusion is serving him in this.
I remember when my uncle got mesothelioma.
And he was a high-level urologist at the Mayo Clinic.
And I remember when I was talking to my dad about it, he was like, yeah, he's too smart.
He can read the labs.
He knows what he has.
He's too smart to go like, I'm going to beat this thing.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tom segura
You're just so well-versed.
joe rogan
But is it a delusional thing, or has that guy had other success in life because he's just super determined?
tom segura
I mean, he's certainly a determined guy and successful in what he does.
But, what's up, big head Steve?
I'm talking about you.
joe rogan
Yo, big head Steve!
tom segura
But I really was like, I credited this guy's, like, it felt like a level of delusion to believe you were going to survive this.
joe rogan
Right, but if he's correct, and he was correct, then it's not delusional.
tom segura
Correct, correct, yes.
joe rogan
Which is kind of crazy.
tom segura
It is kind of crazy.
joe rogan
But the doctors were like, you're dead, and what if he just decides I'm dead, and he starts freaking out, or maybe he goes to Oregon and gets assisted suicide.
tom segura
And so many people go down that path, right?
joe rogan
They're whacking people left and right up in Canada.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're depressed, like you're not feeling good, come on in.
tom segura
Sign up.
joe rogan
Fucking sign up for the program.
We'll get rid of you.
They'll just kill you.
tom segura
In Europe, in the Netherlands, don't they do that?
Somewhere else.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm sure.
I'm sure it's other countries, but it's a recent thing in Canada where they're just whacking people.
tom segura
I didn't know they were doing that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
See, Google it.
Google it.
Because this is something you'll actually find on Google.
It's assisted suicide in Canada.
tom segura
The other delusion that I... Because I just watched the Scott Peterson...
joe rogan
Is that the Lacey Peterson?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
So is that one...
Is the new one where people are saying maybe he didn't kill her?
tom segura
No.
It's essentially...
It's fantastic.
It's on Netflix.
I think it's a three-part docuseries.
And it begins...
Because, you know, it's like this reminder.
It was 20 years ago.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
You know, time just, you're like, oh shit.
joe rogan
What was that story?
How did that one go?
tom segura
So, that one.
joe rogan
Canada's controversial medically assisted death program is fastest growing in the world.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Since suicide became legal in Canada, the number of deaths have grown each year.
So, this is August.
So, this is just last month.
So, what is it saying in terms of the numbers?
Most recent data shows 13,241 people in 2022. Wow.
tom segura
That's quite a jump.
joe rogan
That's a jump, bro.
So 2022 is 13,000.
Who knows what 2023 and 2024 is?
tom segura
Oh, man.
joe rogan
They're whacking people up there.
tom segura
That's pretty wild.
joe rogan
Come on in.
tom segura
Come in.
joe rogan
What, you got foot hurt?
unidentified
My leg hurts.
joe rogan
I'm just sad.
Get in here.
Fuck life.
Fuck life.
tom segura
That's a great tap out fucking option.
joe rogan
It's great.
I mean, what is this?
Is this like, I mean, is it a kind of eugenics?
Like, what is it?
What is it?
I mean, you could say it's being compassionate.
And in some cases, like Michael Lehrer, you know, he went to Oregon.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
But Michael Lehrer was...
His body was failing so horribly.
He couldn't talk anymore.
tom segura
That was ALS? Yes.
Wasn't that the same thing that ravaged that?
What was the famous woman that it was a huge international case here?
Do you remember...
Terry Schiavo?
Was it Terry Schiavo?
joe rogan
I don't know if she had the same thing.
tom segura
But she had this horrible, debilitating disease.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're still alive.
And at the end, it kept getting worse and worse.
It wasn't getting better, so he went to Oregon to do it.
He actually went to Oregon once and then changed his mind and came back.
tom segura
And when you sign up for that in Canada, can you just go, like, that's just what I want?
It doesn't matter?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know what the rules are.
But I know that some people are very upset about it because you're taking people that maybe you could talk to them off the ledge.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe they could have got better.
Maybe with some love and some friendship and some counseling and some therapy.
tom segura
That they wouldn't take that option.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe they'd be happy.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've known quite a few people that have taken their own life.
tom segura
Yeah, I know a few that have done it, too.
And it's always super sad.
I mean, because I don't know anybody that's done it, with the exception of Michael, I don't know anybody that's done it in the case of, you know...
joe rogan
Like a medically assisted?
No.
Michael's the only one that I know about that.
But, you know, there's Brody.
Brody was a hard one.
There's my friend Tony, who's a pool player up in San Francisco.
He jumped off the bridge.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is crazy.
There's a spot where everybody goes.
tom segura
Yeah, one of my college...
I had jobs.
When I was in college, I worked the whole time.
I had part-time jobs.
And one of my co-workers did.
It was fucking terrible, man.
Our boss went to his apartment and found him there.
It was terrible.
joe rogan
You know, for some people, they don't think it's ever going to get better.
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
And if you don't have support around you, you don't have someone that you can...
That can pick you up, and it's crazy how someone can pick you up.
It's crazy how you could be just feeling like total, complete shit, and someone who cares about you can come over to your house, take you out, have some laughs, and you're like, I think I feel better.
We feel better around people.
Some people are super isolated, too.
tom segura
That's the dangerous one.
And I think one of the things I realized as I got older is you don't realize how many people are lonely in this world.
You get older, I'm saying, because you encounter more people and you talk to people.
You realize you have this full life that you can take for granted.
You have a family, you have friends, you have all these things going on.
And then you meet people who don't have any of that and they're alone.
There's a lot of people that are very lonely.
joe rogan
Well, there's also this internet culture too, right?
So there's people that don't have actual physical contact with anyone.
Yeah.
So all their interaction is with people online.
tom segura
So that's a dark place too.
joe rogan
They're streaming all day and chatting all day on Instagram and jerking off and it's madness.
tom segura
Yeah, that's not a path to fulfillment, is isolated online.
joe rogan
No.
tom segura
And also, you don't...
Sometimes, I don't have it to that degree, but you're online for a while on something, and then you go into the real world, and you're like, oh yeah, I'm like...
I was just living in this make-believe place for a while.
I didn't realize it's not real.
joe rogan
Right, right.
You live in this make-believe place and you're not having any of the normal human contact that we thrive on.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
All your contact is like this weird, like, displaced, not connected.
It's all weird.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Which is like, if you go to someone's Twitter profile and you see that they're online 12 hours a day just fucking barking at people.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Like a dog.
tom segura
And it's giving them some charge.
joe rogan
It's like an annoying dog next door.
tom segura
And they're just baiting people all day.
joe rogan
Speaking of baiting, did you watch the debate?
unidentified
Yeah.
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tom segura
I forgot.
joe rogan
Let me tell you, before I say anything, I just want to say, whoever's helping her, whoever's coaching her, whoever's the puppet master running the strings...
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You did a fucking amazing job.
tom segura
She did a great job.
joe rogan
They did an amazing job from the moment Biden drops out, forcing Biden to drop out.
Whatever they're doing, whoever's writing those speeches, getting her to deliver them, coaching her, she's nailing it.
She nailed that one speech.
She's like, say it to my face!
tom segura
She nailed it, dude.
joe rogan
And then last night...
To me, when I was like, oh my god, this is jujitsu, where she was like, if you go to his rallies, his crowds are boring, they're tired, they all leave her, my crowds are the best crowds, I have the number one crowd, he couldn't help himself!
tom segura
And she got him.
She baited him on that.
She walked him right into it.
joe rogan
100%.
100%.
See, the difference in that debate was not a difference in who's going to have better policies, who's going to be better for the country.
The difference in the debate, in my opinion, was who was better prepared.
She was way better prepared.
And even when it came to answering tough questions, instead of answering, she would just say things that she believes.
And they sounded real good.
And that's the sound bite.
tom segura
That's called being a savvy politician.
joe rogan
It's also called being someone who's working with a team versus someone who's like, they said, Trump, that deal was the best deal.
They've never seen a deal like this before.
They said, how did you put that deal together?
tom segura
People thought that was just brilliant.
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
He's not working with a team that's like, I mean, I know he's doing mock debates.
I know he did one with, I think he did one with Tulsi Gabbard, but someone needs to tell him, you've got these tiny little windows and you should have all the words ready for those windows.
There should be no repeating things.
tom segura
Yeah, he started out strong, because, you know, out of the gate, everybody can't help but get in their own way who they are, right?
And for him, it's like, okay, don't get fucking crazy.
Like, I'm sure, you know, the thing is, don't say wild shit.
joe rogan
Don't say people are eating cats.
tom segura
Eating cats and dogs.
And, you know, they're fucking coming in here eating all our pets.
And, you know, you're just watching.
You're watching this thing and you're like, what?
This is fucking insane.
And then for her, they're just basically like, don't laugh like a stripper.
Every time you come to a podium, you're like...
joe rogan
Well, that's a panic.
It's a move that comics will do when their material's not that good.
They laugh at it.
tom segura
They laugh through it.
Exactly.
But then you remember, this is somebody, take away your politics or whatever you believe.
This is a former prosecutor.
It's a trainable person.
If you're a prosecutor, you can get the information and regurgitate it.
joe rogan
She's not dumb.
No.
See, people want to say she's dumb because she's not good off the cuff when pressure's on her.
But you don't understand what that kind of pressure's like.
Like, the kind of pressure that that lady has been under for the last...
Let's just think about the pressure she's been under for the last four years as being vice president.
Everybody hates her.
A lot of gaffs, a lot of dumb things.
So every time she's saying something, in the back of her head, she's like, don't fuck this up.
They're going to come for you.
They're going to use this against you.
Don't say, did you just fall out of a coconut tree?
Don't say that one again.
You know what I mean?
So there's that kind of pressure.
So it's very hard off the cuff.
But when you give her time and prepare her, like last night...
tom segura
It's a good showing for her, for sure.
joe rogan
Very, very good showing.
And unfortunately for him, like, the thing that he does that it's just, look, he can do it better than anybody alive is just riff.
He can go out there and have a crowd of people and just, and he's funny, man.
He does things about, like, he did an Elon impression the other day.
It was hilarious.
tom segura
He's very funny.
joe rogan
He's killing.
He kills like a comedian.
tom segura
People who don't like the guy still will have to acknowledge that he's funny.
joe rogan
He's funny.
He's funny like a comic.
Yeah.
It's just like we don't necessarily want that as the guy with his finger on the button.
That's all it is.
That's the thing that freaks people out.
But the policies that he had when he was – the thing is everyone's saying he's going to be a dictator.
Well, he wasn't a dictator.
He was the president.
He actually was the president for four years.
And the economy really did well.
And he really did try to cut some of the bullshit down that's going on in this country.
Yeah.
And who knows what would have happened if you had four more years.
Maybe we would have been economically better off, even if you don't like that one person to be like the figurehead of the country that you identify with because you live here.
You don't want to identify with this guy that you think is blustery and, you know.
tom segura
Well, the thing is he's going to, you know, we have like 55 days or something.
And the thing that's really going to happen now is I think he realizes that When she first was announced, I'm sure most people, myself included, were like, he's just going to destroy her.
I didn't think she was even going to have a chance.
But now you realize this is going to be, I believe, a much closer race.
joe rogan
It's close as fuck.
She's probably ahead now.
I saw the Fox News poll.
It's hilarious.
90% Trump won.
They're eating cats I saw!
I saw on Facebook!
tom segura
Killing newborn babies.
joe rogan
By the way, I think they are eating cats.
I think some people are eating cats.
I think you get a bunch of poor people that are from an island where they occasionally eat cats, and you throw them in a city where there's 50,000 people, you throw 20,000 people in there, and there's ducks at the pond.
I'm going to go get a duck if I'm hungry.
tom segura
My fucking son took one out of there.
He grabbed it by the neck.
So, yeah, I would not believe a...
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, if I was starving, if I just came from another country and there's ducks laying around, I'd grab a duck.
tom segura
Sure.
I don't think it's that crazy.
joe rogan
That's not their fault.
Like, how the fuck did they get here?
How'd you get 20,000 shipped to one town?
tom segura
Like, what is that?
joe rogan
What's the real story behind that?
Is that organized?
tom segura
The immigration issue is a legit real issue in this country.
It's in our state predominantly, too.
joe rogan
It's a lot of it here, yeah.
A lot of it in California, a lot of it in Arizona, but it's a real issue.
And look, you and I are both the products of immigration.
Immigration is fucking awesome.
But hey, maybe when they do stuff that's bad, you should put them in jail.
Like, hey, maybe.
Hey, maybe you should use the same laws on them.
Hey, maybe.
We should check to see if they're murderers before they come across the board.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hey, maybe.
tom segura
I know.
Hey, maybe.
They just turned...
I mean, this current administration just was like, oh, yeah, we should.
Just recently.
joe rogan
Do you think...
But recently, I think it's...
They're also flying people in, which is crazy.
But recently, I think it's because they want people that are on the fence.
You know, the people that are on the fence, because this is not- This is all that plays to.
tom segura
It's all that matters.
joe rogan
But once they're in again, if they're in again, they'll probably do the same thing.
Because what you're doing is you're essentially changing states that are swing states into blue.
Because if you're going to give these people money, debit cards and food stamps, and let them come in, and they're even talking about gender reassignment surgeries?
tom segura
Yeah, I heard this.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's true.
I don't know if that's true either.
unidentified
Find out if that's true.
joe rogan
Because that's part of the problem with this whole people are eating cats.
It's like you don't fucking know what's true anymore.
tom segura
That's a big thing.
joe rogan
Maybe you just read things on the internet or you hear things on the radio.
Who fucking knows what's true?
tom segura
Which is why, like, because a lot of people were also, you know, talking about the moderators interjecting a bunch, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
But, like, part of that, I mean, feels like you kind of need some of that interjecting because otherwise things are just said and And you have zero idea.
joe rogan
100%.
tom segura
I mean, the big one to me, this is why you need to have somebody interject at times, is when he said to her, like, you went and negotiated with Zelensky and Putin, and then just moves on.
Well, if you're a regular person at home, you work and you take care of your family, you don't know the ins and outs of diplomacy and what's happening internationally.
You hear that, and you just go, oh, I didn't know that.
So you kind of have to have somebody go, wait a minute, you didn't negotiate with Putin.
joe rogan
She's never met him.
Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants.
That is crazy.
That's just September 9th.
tom segura
She's going to do what politicians do, which she's in the midst of this right now, which is just going, yeah, I've changed on that.
She did it like five times last night alone.
Didn't you say this?
She's like, yeah, I changed.
Now I'm this.
joe rogan
Well, that's a good thing.
People can change.
This idea of flip-flopping when you learn more information.
No, stick to your guns.
Stupid shit you first believed in.
tom segura
You can evolve and change.
joe rogan
Say that forever.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's dumb, yeah.
You definitely could evolve and you could be wrong.
And that's part of being a good leader is recognizing you're wrong and correcting your course.
That's all good.
What is going on with the earrings?
tom segura
The earrings?
joe rogan
Do you know about this, the earring controversy?
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
Okay.
So there are people that believe that what she was wearing last night was the type of earring that they use for, um, it's like an, it's an earpiece.
Like, you can talk through it.
tom segura
No!
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
Why would she have to?
joe rogan
So someone can talk to her.
So someone can coach her.
jamie vernon
I know, but they have better earpieces than...
joe rogan
Well, no, Jamie.
They want one that looks like a fucking earring so you can just wear it.
Duh.
Like, if you have one that looks like an earpiece, like, oh, like if Trump had one right through the bullet hole.
tom segura
This is definitely going to take off.
If they're already saying this, yeah, this is going on Twitter.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
It does look exactly like the ones that they use for what they're called Nova earphones.
tom segura
Okay.
joe rogan
So there's a video.
I'll send you the video, Jamie.
But there's a video of this thing in action.
It's pretty fucking interesting.
Because in the video, they're showing that these little earphones, like it's a commercial.
And it's pretty cool.
tom segura
Hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
So is the actual ear...
unidentified
See if you can find...
tom segura
If you have the real thing, do you wear it as an earring?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, you wear it as an earring.
Goddammit, did I save it?
I might have saved it on Twitter, not Instagram.
But it's...
Did you find it?
There's a video.
unidentified
I'm going to find the video.
joe rogan
It's kind of cool.
It's cool because I like all that spy espionage type shit.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
It's fucking interesting.
But if she really did do that...
First of all, if she didn't do that...
Bring those earrings.
Allow them to be investigated.
Please.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
Just the ones that you wore.
We'll trust you.
Take those.
Because you can't really get a pair made that aren't those.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If you have those.
So this is what it looks like.
So...
There's a different commercial that I saw.
It's pretty cool.
So these are earrings, but they're actually earphones.
So you listen to music, all kinds of shit.
Or you can have people give you instructions and say, hey, make fun of the crowds.
Now's the time.
Smile.
Smile.
He's talking about eating cats.
tom segura
Don't get mad.
joe rogan
Don't gackle.
So these are actual earphones, which is really crazy.
tom segura
Yeah, I did not realize that.
joe rogan
And so that's exactly what the ones looked like that she was wearing.
tom segura
Well, that'll be a new thing to run with.
joe rogan
Yeah, fun times.
tom segura
These next 55 days are going to be...
joe rogan
Yeah, they're gonna be bonkers, man.
tom segura
I forgot how crazy it gets.
Just the energy and chaos that he brings.
joe rogan
Every time I go on Twitter, I get fucking anxiety.
I just send it to you, Jamie.
You can see the comparison side-by-side of the two of them.
tom segura
Yeah, it's gonna be nutty, dude.
And then when we get into November, it's gonna...
Oh my fucking god.
Terrifying.
joe rogan
I'm just scared that someone's gonna do something really stupid.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like some extremists on either side that really do believe you're gonna take away the trans kids or really do believe you're gonna destroy the country from the inside.
So that's what it looks like.
tom segura
Okay.
joe rogan
Real fucking similar.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Real fucking similar.
I don't know.
You know?
I don't know if that's what she's wearing.
She might have just been wearing earrings.
But if they have the kind of technology like that for regular people, and you could do that, and most people aren't aware of it, you can get it off because the ABC people aren't aware of it.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
Sneak it in, baby!
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
That'd be rad.
joe rogan
It's fun.
tom segura
I'd respect it so much.
joe rogan
That'd be so fucking awesome.
Wherever you stand, politically left or right, you've got to respect what she did last night.
She got a great showing.
She did.
She did a great job.
unidentified
She did.
joe rogan
But it just, whoever's pulling the strings, what a masterful job of propaganda they've done, taking someone that they all agreed was not a good vice president, was the least popular vice president.
tom segura
Nobody even fucking knew anything about her.
Nothing.
joe rogan
Bro, everybody made fun of her.
Even, like, Joe Scarborough was talking about how she's like a problem for the ticket.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
And now you look, and she's like neck and neck with him.
Is she ahead of him today?
The whole thing's so nuts, man.
But Taylor Swift's on her side.
tom segura
Taylor Swift's on her side.
It's going to come down in these key states to just county by county.
It's going to be like, you know, where you're going to, hour to hour, you're going to see this county turn in, and it's red, and it goes up, and then the blue county, it's really going to be in PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona.
joe rogan
And then you've got this million ballots.
tom segura
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to be crazy.
tom segura
I still think it's so crazy that a lot of the developed world has Saturday elections.
Yeah, it should be.
Yeah, you don't have work.
Yeah, it's just fucking crazy.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
Most people have to work.
And also vote in person with a fucking ID. We just got through three fucking years of you have to have a vaccine passport in order to get food.
Right, and you don't have to show your ID. You have to be able to show an ID and show that you're vaccinated to get on an airplane.
We just got through that.
And now all of a sudden it's racist to say that you want voter ID. No, I think it's insane.
There's only one reason to do it that way.
There's two things that are going on simultaneously.
You're letting in literally millions of people Millions of people.
And you're giving them all these services, for sure.
There's all this talk about they gave them money, and there was all these stories about people getting debit cards and food stamps and all this money, and then they're putting them up in hotels in New York City, and they're giving them free food.
And then there's people that are poor that live in America.
They're like, hey, why am I not getting that?
What's going on here?
Well, because they already have your vote.
They've already tricked you into voting specifically for this one party.
So now, if you bring in millions and millions of people, and then the same people that want to bring these people in, or that are allowing, their policies that are allowing these people to come in, are the same people that think voter ID is racist.
You're racist saying voter ID is racist, by the way.
Because you're saying that these people are too stupid to get a fucking driver's license?
I agree.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody has a goddamn driver's license.
tom segura
That's true.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
Like, voter ID is racist?
tom segura
Yeah, our system is really fucked.
joe rogan
Crazy!
tom segura
And so are the county drawings that they do for districts, the gerrymandering.
They're like, oh, and you look at the graph and it's just to engulf a part of a district that doesn't make sense to include it in.
All this is manipulation.
joe rogan
Well, there's also how many seats is dependent upon how many people are in your county.
And the more people you import into your county, the more you can change the demographics.
tom segura
But these county lines make no sense half the time when you look at them, when you study the way that they're attributed.
joe rogan
You've got to fucking give the Democrats credit for the manipulation.
I mean, they did everything, like every time they've had a hurdle, like they moved Bernie off the fucking primaries, they fucked him.
You know, then it comes to the whole thing with RFK. They fucked him, fuck you, fuck Tulsi, fuck you.
Everybody's out.
They've done, I mean, and right in front of everybody's face.
And yet all these people are like, yay, save democracy.
Like, are you not seeing what's going on?
Are you not seeing, like...
If the same people with the same ideas played fair, if the same people with the same ideas played fair, we have a different thing.
We have a different thing.
We have a different thing.
And then we can get back to people disagreeing about policy, disagreeing about plans.
tom segura
You seem like we're far from that.
joe rogan
We're so far from that.
We're so far from that that people don't even give a fuck about what the policy is.
They're just committed to their side, and anything their side does that's kind of fucked up or twisted, they'll gaslight you on it, then they'll say it's not that big of a deal, and then they'll tell you it's good that that's happening.
tom segura
Yeah.
Of course.
You fully justify it.
joe rogan
Somebody had a great tweet about the eating pets thing.
It's one of those things where I just, I read it and I'm just, I'm so happy that we live in a time of the internet.
Because the internet is so fun.
Because there's so many regular people out there in the world that are so fun.
tom segura
Yeah, they are.
joe rogan
So this dude's name is Nick Fritas.
And Green Beret, combat veteran.
But look at his, look at the suite that I sent you, Jamie.
I can't believe this is a topic!
The left, no one is eating people's pets, which means we're one week away from why do you care that people are eating pets, three weeks from why eating pets is a good thing, and four weeks from refusing to eat pets is white supremacy.
tom segura
No, he's got it.
He fucking nailed it.
He nailed it.
unidentified
It's just like we live in such a mad, mad world.
tom segura
Yeah.
And if you...
It's like this is entertaining, too, to read this.
But also, if you lose yourself in these back and forth online, you lose your fucking mind.
joe rogan
Oh, you lose your fucking mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's a lot of people losing their mind.
It's just...
I don't engage in it.
I know you don't either.
It's a bad way to communicate with people.
It's a bad way.
It's bad for your health.
I really believe that.
I think it's bad for your mental health.
tom segura
I 100% agree.
I remember...
I don't know if he still does this, and I've heard other people do this, but I remember when DiStefano told me that he was like a year or so ago.
He's like, it's fucking with my happiness.
And then he gave somebody his login stuff.
He's like, I don't want it.
You have it.
I'll just send you things to post, but I don't even have my own login.
joe rogan
Ari did that for a while, too.
Right before the Kobe thing.
unidentified
He went...
joe rogan
He got back online and immediately went bad.
unidentified
Oh my god.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's not good for anybody.
And that's why I am absolutely addicted to looking at things on my phone.
I'm addicted to watching YouTube.
I'm addicted to stories, just looking at stories on Google.
And a lot of it is nonsense, but a lot of it is super interesting science stuff.
I get a lot of super interesting science stuff all day.
And people send me super interesting stuff.
tom segura
I try to do productive stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, but not you and me.
tom segura
Well, you and me have a bad thing going on.
joe rogan
We have a bad thing.
You and me, our text, which is what I was going to get to, our text message chain is the fucking worst thing on the internet.
tom segura
It's so dark.
People go, hey, because they hear about it, and they go, include me, and I go, you want me to ruin your fucking life?
You want your whole algorithm to be just the darkest thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is my and Tommy's thing.
The darkest.
The darkest things we find.
tom segura
My algorithm is a confusing...
joe rogan
Oh yeah, it's a mess.
tom segura
It's confusing, it's dark, semi-erotic, and it's just the most peculiar...
Also, I just can't help with all the censorship that has become...
You know, it's so prevalent.
It's one of the big topics of the last five years.
I still don't understand why I get to watch murders.
All day long.
All day long.
I get to see on my Instagram executions, a lot of Russian car accidents and manufacturing mishaps, people getting electrocuted, hit by trains, and straight up just gun to the head, just hit men.
I've seen on closed-circuit TV where you're like...
This is cool, but like, I don't know, a girl's tit isn't?
And somebody leaving a comment that is like...
joe rogan
You misgendered someone?
tom segura
Yeah, like the language.
That person's account gets fucking banned, but I can see this guy get his head fucking blown off?
joe rogan
Why?
tom segura
It doesn't add up at all.
joe rogan
Well, that was why the old Twitter was weird, because they had hardcore porn.
There was always hardcore pornography, but if you misgendered someone, you'd be banned for life.
tom segura
Yeah.
That doesn't add up at all.
It's always been this thing in America, like one of the big European versus American differences is that we always had this holier-than-thou reaction to the naked body and just sex in general, right?
Like there's a topless person or a lovemaking scene and people are like, you know, either this is NC-17 or, you know, but we can have someone like a grenade in a guy's mouth and they're like, yeah, well, that's on fucking TNT today.
joe rogan
Well, how is it getting through Instagram's filters?
tom segura
I don't...
joe rogan
Because I asked you this like a couple months ago because I'm not on TikTok.
I'm like, did you see that when you sent me something particularly disturbing, I was like, okay, is this on TikTok too?
tom segura
I've seen crazy shit there as well.
I do know that the go around on Instagram seems to be just in your caption.
So if you notice, if you look at the caption...
joe rogan
A lot of time it's like 2024 Mercedes-Benz AMG.
It's an amazing off-road vehicle.
tom segura
Because they figured out that the whatever, the sensors and the algorithm doesn't...
watch the video.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
It's like your cat.
If you were to write, here is a guy getting hit by a truck and his fucking head comes off in your caption, that thing would get taken down.
But if you're like, check out the new fucking 2024 MDX or whatever it's called.
But here's the question.
joe rogan
Then they go, where is the money?
How are they making money off of this?
tom segura
That's good.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Because whoever's putting these videos up, these are accounts from bots.
So if you look at the accounts, there's no real comments and real things that anybody's saying with that account.
And then this account might have thousands of these videos.
tom segura
Yeah.
And the war footage, the drone footage, was just like...
joe rogan
I saw one yesterday where this drone, a kamikaze drone, was coming after these guys and they were shooting at it with AKs and they couldn't take it down.
The thing was evading the bullets.
And then finally it moved in and the guy threw his AK at it and it blew up.
It saved his life.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
He threw his fucking rifle at the drone as it was coming to...
Because they dive on you and blow up.
tom segura
I think being able to see those, I will say this, gives you like a very sobering perspective on modern day war.
Because that's obviously, you know, that wasn't a thing in Vietnam or World War II. But like the fact that you see these guys out in a field, you know, whatever side they're on.
I'm just talking about the reality of these human beings.
And then this fucking drone with a camera is chasing them down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And it can just blow.
joe rogan
Well, this is the first time that's ever happened.
tom segura
It's fucking so disturbing.
joe rogan
The first time we've ever had drones that chase people.
tom segura
Yeah, I'd never...
I mean, I'd seen...
Obviously, I heard of and knew about drones that are basically satellites that fly.
They're like planes, and they lock in on a location and fire a missile.
But these little tiny ones that just chase people and blow up?
joe rogan
They're suicide bombers.
tom segura
It's super disturbing.
joe rogan
Guys are going into the trenches with GoPros on.
I watched this one where this Russian guy killed these Ukrainian guys that were in a trench, and he's got a GoPro on.
tom segura
Crazy.
joe rogan
And he guns these guys down when they're in the trench.
And one guy's struggling for the rifle, and then he fucking gets the barrel back and blows his head off, and you're like, yo!
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's all like five feet away, three feet away.
Like, fuck!
tom segura
And you see that and then they're like, do you want to make a prosciutto and mozzarella sandwich next?
Like, that's my feed.
And you're like, yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you saw my feed, if I was like being arrested for being a serial killer and they had to look at his social media, like, look at his algorithm.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at his algorithm.
tom segura
Oh, I mean, Christina's just all day.
She's just like, you're such a sick person.
She's like, look what you fill your head with.
joe rogan
I don't show my wife.
tom segura
I go to bed, and I always put on biographies.
It's either war, a serial killer, or it's a scripted show about a murder.
It's the only thing that it engages that I find enticing and exciting to watch are either real stories about horrible things, or I like suspense.
I like that genre, so I'm just always watching it.
joe rogan
Well, it's always interesting just psychologically to see, like, what the fuck, you know, like you're watching something on Richard Ramirez or something like that.
Like, what was this guy like?
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I just cannot watch those things at night.
If I watch them in the day, I can tolerate them, but at night, before I go to bed, it just gives me too much room for crazy thoughts.
tom segura
Well, apparently, that's a healthier reaction than mine, because I watch it and I'm like, night, night, and I just fucking go to bed.
joe rogan
I can't watch things about war at night.
War freaks me out the most because I'm always like, okay, before Pearl Harbor or before 9-11, no one knew that was going to happen.
How do we not know?
How do we know that we're not in a situation right now where we're just before something really fucked up happens?
And that gets me at night.
tom segura
Yeah, I understand that.
I mean, and also the way that Now, because I've watched docs on those very things recently, like the latest one, the latest Nazi one, because at some point I'm also like, are they ever just going to be like, I think we've covered it with Hitler?
Never.
And then I watched the latest one that there was a Netflix release, and it was Absolutely phenomenal.
Like the best docu-series I've ever seen done.
joe rogan
On the Nazis?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's it called?
tom segura
It's like a six or eight part series.
I don't remember what it's called.
It came out a couple months ago.
It's so fucking good.
You don't realize that they could go deeper and really highlight things that you didn't know about.
It's just so educational.
But...
joe rogan
Hitler and the Nazis, evil on trial.
tom segura
It is fucking so goddamn good.
I cannot tell you how good this is.
joe rogan
So is this colorized footage?
tom segura
There's color footage.
They go between real footage, like real historical footage, narration, and it's just- Do they have dramatizations as well?
Yes, and it's so high level.
It's so well done.
It just paints a picture in a way that- I don't think has really been done before.
It's just incredibly fascinating.
But, yeah, I mean, I get that at night, too, because you kind of go like, especially, you know, I mean, it was highlighted, I think, even in the debate.
And so it is a very valid point, which is that, you know, you just don't know what's going to happen in any war.
But, you know, when you have Russia involved in this war, you do have a country with thousands of nukes.
Like, you just don't know.
How he's deciding to play this?
You don't know.
joe rogan
Nobody knows.
And he's a KGB guy who's a dictator.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, the whole thing is mad.
It's crazy.
tom segura
And you just can do, you know, one little thing.
For him, that's the line.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
You just don't know what that is.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't know what that is, and you don't know why it's happening.
You know, you hear about NATO moving their arms closer to Russia, and you know that there was a coup that was probably facilitated by the United States in 2014, and it's like, fuck, man.
Like, all this monkeying with shit overseas scares the fuck out of me, man.
tom segura
Of course, yeah.
Every day, there could be some new thing popping off somewhere in the world, and you're like, That's another one, the turning point doc about the history of the Cold War.
And when you realize how the nuke programs evolved and how in the 60s...
When Bay of Pigs and all that was happening, we thought, because they postured, like, we can fucking take you guys down, too.
And we ended up discovering later that they had like seven bombs, and we had like 10,000 at the time.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
tom segura
But then...
joe rogan
Seven's enough, though.
tom segura
It's enough, but it's also like, you know, you could also target these areas.
It's a more...
You can deal with it, but of course they never showed that hand.
But then you see how, into the 80s, how their program just far exceeded our...
At one point they had, like, triple what we had.
Also, these are an amount of bombs that doesn't even really matter.
If you have 33,000 nukes, it's like, you know, what the fuck are you going to do with that?
joe rogan
The world's over.
tom segura
Yeah, it's over anyway.
But how we both operated on a sense that like, oh yeah, if either one of us crosses the line, it's just over for both of us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Mutually assured self-destruction.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
And then the other thing was that during the Reagan administration, they kind of like forced the Russians into trying to keep up with us militarily, which kind of bankrupt the Soviet Union.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
Because if you have a communist country, it's way harder to get money.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's fucking hard.
You're not making anything.
You're not selling anything.
tom segura
There's not a lot of capital things going around.
And things got really bad there, economically.
Massive poverty and starvation.
joe rogan
And while you're having massive military spending, it's kind of unsustainable.
But then they've since recovered.
And then them, like China, what's interesting, what China has done is China has developed this sort of They have capitalism and communism, which is the way to do it.
Like, you get people motivated to make a lot of money, industries get huge, but everything is completely tied into the government, which is like, oh, we nailed it.
This is it.
tom segura
It's a good program.
joe rogan
It's a good program.
It's not good for the people.
It's not good for us.
tom segura
It's good for running the show.
joe rogan
It's great for running the show.
And that's, you know...
This is what's scary about what's going on in this country, is there's some people that have the notion that in order for us to compete with these other countries, we have to govern people in a more similar way than they do.
They have to have more control over information, more control over what people say and do, more control over money.
You know, China now has centralized digital currency in some places, which is...
That's very scary.
Once the government has complete access to your money and be able to shut your money off...
You saw what happened in Canada.
With the truckers.
So these people just donated money to this trucker protest.
That's all they did.
Donate money.
And Canada shut their bank accounts down.
Which is...
That's scary stuff, man.
tom segura
It's very scary.
joe rogan
That's Banana Republic shit.
And that's...
You could walk to Canada.
It's not that far.
tom segura
To the...
You know when we had the...
What was it called?
What's the company?
That they had the malfunction and the airlines just stopped for a fucking day?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And my friends was bringing up how...
You know, all these car manufacturers...
Are pledging, you know, we'll be fully electric by 2035 or whatever.
And I'm like, man, for me, I've just always been like, yeah, that would suck just because I like cars that are gas powered.
And, you know, I guess I'm a dinosaur in that way.
joe rogan
No, they're cool.
tom segura
They're cool.
But what my friend was like, he was like, you know, he brought up that malfunction.
He was like, you know, I just keep thinking about that if we were all electric, That the government could also just go like, doop!
Like, cars don't work today.
joe rogan
Well, there's cars today that have OnStar on them that the police can shut your car off.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if you're running a high-speed chase from the cops and you have some vehicle that has OnStar on it, you just hit a button.
Is that true?
Make sure that's true.
That might be theoretical.
I think it's true, though.
I think they could just shut your car off.
tom segura
That's pretty scary.
joe rogan
But they market to you, like, look, if someone steals your Corvette, Tom, you just call up.
And then we'll have that car shut off.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
And that person's on the highway and it just pulls over for them.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Scary.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you know the story about Michael Hastings, right?
Michael Hastings was the reporter for Rolling Stone.
jamie vernon
This is what they list for stolen vehicles.
joe rogan
Can police use OnStar to disable a car?
If the vehicle's parked and turned off, the OnStar advisor can use remote ignition block to prevent the engine from being restarted, allowing the police to recover the vehicle.
So they can only do it once it's off?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Can they...
Okay, can police use OnStar to disable a car?
Click that.
Search for.
Below.
Below that?
That part.
Click that.
See if that gives you a different answer.
The vehicle's parked and turned off.
Same thing.
So, can it shut off your car while you're driving?
Hold on.
Can you go back?
Disable engine and end high-speed chases so it can.
Satellite technology that could disable an engine with a simple push of a button helped end the high-speed chase of a stolen sports utility vehicle in La Porte, resulting in the arrest of Mishawaka Man.
tom segura
And look what it says there.
It was reaching 80 miles an hour before the OnStar technology slowed it to 20. So it's just basically...
joe rogan
Shut it down.
So OnStar controlled this guy's car.
And they're looking at it like it's a good thing because it is a good thing because this guy was a crazy person.
Reckless driving, other counts, resisting law enforcement, running from the cops.
But it's kind of crazy that they could just press a button.
So maybe it's something that you didn't really do.
Maybe you're a whistleblower for some chemical company that's done something that's illegal and then...
People don't want you to, you're going to crash the stock market, and you're on the run, and they know he's got the papers on him, find that fuck.
And they just, boom, slow your Cadillac down.
tom segura
Yep.
joe rogan
Spooky.
tom segura
It's kind of spooky, man.
joe rogan
It's spooky because we know that people abuse power.
It's not spooky...
Look, if we had...
Our elected officials were all super enlightened beings that were different than human beings and that only did things according to ethics and rules and morals and knew what was right and what was wrong.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay, maybe then you can make a justification.
tom segura
Yeah, but that's not our case.
joe rogan
That's not humans.
That's not humans.
All that stuff's crazy.
tom segura
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's just you're giving too much power to people.
And then you could figure out a way to justify and say, yeah, what about those people that are running from the cops?
You're right.
But what about someone who's corrupt, who's got a hold of that technology, and they're tracking their ex-wife because she's going to testify against them, and they have her whacked.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That shit happens too.
tom segura
For sure it does.
joe rogan
For fucking sure.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then if there's no record of it, if you just got some sort of computer and you can just fucking slow down someone's car and then the hitman catches up to him, guns are down or whatever.
tom segura
Yeah.
I mean, all technology can be abused.
100%.
joe rogan
Well, we're seeing that with Google searches.
Nobody ever thought that you could just manipulate Google searches.
But you 100% can.
I had Robert Epstein on the other day, and he was explaining how it's done and what they do, and they're capturing all these ephemeral...
So, like, every time Google shows you stories or every time you Google something, they record what Google shows you.
And every time you Google something about Trump, it's going to show you all the negative.
You Google about Kamala Harris, it's going to show you all the positive.
And just by doing that for the casual voter, they can change the vote by a significant percentage.
tom segura
It's insane.
And also the listening thing, you know?
It's like...
I ran into a meta-engineer when I was on the road at a hotel.
He was like, oh, I'm a fan.
And we just started talking.
And I was like, hey, man.
Because we had just talked with my tour crew about, this is so fucking, you know, this is the thing you keep going.
This is so weird that we were having this conversation.
And then it's right here.
Like, it's A, it's in my algorithm now.
And then also I'm getting emails about this.
joe rogan
Very strange.
tom segura
So strange.
And then we did an experiment.
I was like, all right, let's just keep talking about Lamborghinis.
Let's just keep talking about them.
And we just kept talking about them in this conversation with our phones out.
And then, I don't know, two hours later, we were all sharing, like, look at my thing.
It's just, like, my algorithm now has Lamborghinis.
And I got an email about a Lamborghini.
And he goes, well, you know we listen, right?
And I go, well, yeah.
I mean, I figure, like, I know that we all kind of talk about it, but, like, it's weird to have you confirm it, you know?
joe rogan
Did he say they listen when the app is open?
tom segura
We didn't go that far.
He was just like, well, you know we listen to you.
joe rogan
Have you ever done an experiment where all your apps are closed and you just start talking about something and see if Google picks that up?
tom segura
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Because that would be interesting.
We should do that right now.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Okay, what should we talk about?
What would be a good thing?
tom segura
Let's see.
joe rogan
Let me make sure that all my shit is closed.
I'm going to close everything.
What would be a good thing to talk about that would find out?
Something that we don't ever look up.
tom segura
Yeah, something that is not on our radar.
joe rogan
High school baseball.
tom segura
High school baseball is definitely not something I'm interested in.
Right.
joe rogan
So you don't talk about high school baseball a lot.
tom segura
I never talk about high school baseball.
joe rogan
High school baseball is so important because high school baseball teaches you teamwork.
tom segura
It does.
joe rogan
And it teaches you how to perform together with friends.
You develop camaraderie.
You learn how to compete.
tom segura
And high school baseball really is, that is the minor leagues of the minor leagues.
Because if you thrive in high school baseball, and you're legit a good high school baseball player, then you can go to college.
Then you can go into the minors, and you can even play in the majors.
joe rogan
Next thing you know, you're in the fucking Dodgers.
And you're balling!
And you're driving a Lamborghini.
tom segura
And you're driving a yellow Lamborghini.
joe rogan
Okay, now let's see.
How much time do you think it takes before high school baseball?
tom segura
I think it takes a little more.
joe rogan
I just want to bring up high school baseball.
tom segura
High school baseball.
joe rogan
High school baseball.
High school baseball results.
tom segura
And also, when you think about high school baseball, you realize that pitching at that level, you're a real outlier if you get above 90 miles an hour.
Because there's some high school kids...
They can pitch like 80, 85. When you start getting high school kids pitching above 90, you're talking about an elite level.
A kid with a lot of potential.
joe rogan
Big ol' fella.
Long ass arms.
tom segura
He's got that torque.
Yeah, whip.
joe rogan
That whip.
Those dudes can whip that ball.
tom segura
They sure can.
joe rogan
So what is the fastest anyone's ever thrown a fastball?
tom segura
That's a great question.
Let's guess.
Okay, that's a good guess.
And I definitely don't know.
I know the real baseball fans are going to be like, fucking idiot.
But I'm going to guess...
112?
Is that crazy?
joe rogan
I was gonna say 118. Okay.
That's just a wild guess though.
What do you think it is, Jamie?
Do you know what it is?
tom segura
Is this going to be the highest in a game or just the highest?
joe rogan
Highest ever.
Like the fastest.
There must be like who's the fastest.
tom segura
I bet the guy who's the best ever or fastest ever isn't the best.
unidentified
The best.
joe rogan
Right.
He's probably not the most accurate.
tom segura
It's just like in tennis.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
The craziest speed ever on a serve is not from Federer.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like a guy with the hardest punch is not necessarily the best fighter.
tom segura
Exactly.
joe rogan
So what is – let's take a guess.
jamie vernon
That's a good point, so I was trying to erase, like, in Major League Baseball from the search if I could.
joe rogan
What's the fastest pitch ever thrown?
jamie vernon
Fastest in Major League Baseball, it's 105.8.
joe rogan
What about in, like, the world record for the fastest ball ever thrown?
There's got to be competitions, right?
Like, they have those golf competitions where dudes just drive the ball.
tom segura
A thousand percent, yeah.
jamie vernon
Yeah, but if you could throw a fastball, you would just be in the major leagues.
joe rogan
That's true.
That's true.
unidentified
They would pay you a lot of money for that.
joe rogan
They would just figure out a way to get you over the plate.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
You only have to do it, like, ten times, and you can make a lot of money.
joe rogan
Wow.
So, 105?
jamie vernon
105.8, yeah.
There's a bunch of...
One guy has done it a bunch of times at 105, and a few people have joined him in the 105, but no one's cracked 106. That must be so fast coming at you.
tom segura
That's terrifying.
You ever look at the...
joe rogan
From an umpire's perspective?
tom segura
No, but if you look at tennis, the high-level serve speeds...
joe rogan
What are their speeds?
tom segura
We're talking like into the 130s.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
There's probably a guy who's probably done 140. Alright, I'm opening up Google to see if we get any high school baseball.
joe rogan
Come on, Google.
Don't disappoint me.
jamie vernon
163 for fastest.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
Fastest serve, 163?
unidentified
Fuck!
jamie vernon
Yeah, and John Eisner...
tom segura
Yeah, Eisner's 6'10.
jamie vernon
...is 157. Bro, that's bananas.
tom segura
He's 6'10.
joe rogan
So far, it's just wolves and MMA. Let's see.
jamie vernon
I think you gotta give that about 30 minutes to an hour and then check again.
tom segura
What do I have?
I got chiropractors, Italian women's feet, people...
joe rogan
I got the debate.
I got upcoming fights.
tom segura
I got some...
joe rogan
Canelo Alvarez.
tom segura
Connor.
joe rogan
Sugar Sean O'Malley and Marab Dwabishwili.
tom segura
Watches.
joe rogan
Watches.
Cybertruck.
Baseball.
tom segura
But you know what would be interesting though?
Is you check back in an hour.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to keep checking back for high school baseball.
And if high school baseball...
Well, now I'm cheating because I've got Google open.
I'm going to shut it now.
We'll see.
We'll see if they get me.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I should have come up with a product instead of high school baseball.
tom segura
Product's a good idea.
joe rogan
Like Lamborghini's a product.
They're gonna try to sell you the product.
That would be a better move.
tom segura
There you go.
joe rogan
I should have had a product.
What would be the product?
But I want it to be a product that I wouldn't ordinarily search.
That's why I said high school baseball.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
Like, what's a product that I wouldn't search?
tom segura
Have you searched humidors?
joe rogan
No.
Humidors.
That's a good one.
tom segura
Cigar humidor?
joe rogan
Cigar humidor.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cigar humidors, what are the best ones?
Cigar humidors, what's the difference?
tom segura
There's so many sizes.
joe rogan
Are there some that are too crazy and it's just overkill?
What's the best wood for a cigar humidor?
tom segura
One of my neighbors built a room.
joe rogan
Trying to get away from his wife.
tom segura
He built like a store.
joe rogan
He's trying to hide from his wife.
He's hiding.
tom segura
I love it.
unidentified
It's fucking awesome, dude.
joe rogan
I don't want to do this anymore.
I'm in there.
It's women repellent.
tom segura
Yeah.
It's so funny.
Yeah, no woman's ever like, mmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, they hate it.
They think it stinks.
tom segura
It's so funny.
joe rogan
They hate it when it's outside.
Like, oh, that guy across the street's got a cigar.
tom segura
It's so nice to start.
You know what I did yesterday?
unidentified
Want one?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Sure.
tom segura
I had a gummy, a mushroom gummy.
It was so good.
joe rogan
Just a light one?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was nice.
Shouldn't that be legal, Tommy Buns?
tom segura
Is it not?
joe rogan
I mean, it kind of is.
It depends on the mushroom.
I take a lot of functional mushrooms over the last six months or so.
I've been taking Reiki and Cordyceps.
tom segura
I gotta get you one of these though.
They're really good.
Smooth.
Very nice.
I'm also like a bit naive as I haven't partaken that much before.
So I did mine like before bed.
joe rogan
Oh no.
tom segura
And then I put like An eye mask on, and I was like...
joe rogan
You saw some things.
tom segura
Oh, yeah, I've seen all kinds of shit.
And then it's 2.30 in the morning, and I'm like, I've got to take something else so I can go to bed.
joe rogan
Well, when I get riled up late at night, I always feel like an idiot, because I've just ruined my sleep.
tom segura
Yeah, that's what I didn't like.
joe rogan
If I'm late at night, and I've got too many crazy ideas, and it starts freaking me out, it just ruins your sleep.
And the next thing you know, it's 4 o'clock in the morning, and you go to bed.
tom segura
It fucked me up.
It was just my own ignorance.
joe rogan
And then if you have a podcast the next day, you got baggy eyes, you look like shit, and your brain is not working so great.
Oh, by the way, one of the best supplements for performance, mental performance, when you are missing sleep is creatine.
tom segura
Really?
Like creatine, like the workout supplement?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Creatine, the workout supplement, it's really good for workouts, but it's also really good for cognitive function.
tom segura
Didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Never heard that.
joe rogan
Well, if you think about it, what creatine does, like, Google exactly what creatine does so I don't fuck this up, but what I think it does essentially is it allows your body to hold on to more water.
Yeah.
There's more water in the muscles, so it increases muscle volume and it helps.
Okay, here.
What does it say?
Creatine is a compound.
Body naturally makes, get it from protein-rich foods, it supplies energy to your muscles, it may also promote brain health.
Many people take creatine supplements to increase strength, improve performance, and help...
What happened?
What'd you just do?
Yeah, but you changed it.
I was reading it.
Okay.
Increase strength, improve performance, and help keep their minds sharp.
tom segura
I've never heard this.
joe rogan
But the study, the recent study was the positive effects of creatine on people that are sleep deprived.
tom segura
Interesting.
joe rogan
It says an increased energy supply to neurons in the brain which may help with mood and thinking.
So it does something with water.
You gain a little weight from it that I think you're storing more water.
tom segura
So you have a bad night of sleep.
joe rogan
The next day.
But I take it every day anyway.
I've been taking it every day anyway for like the past six months.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it makes a difference.
It really does.
It makes a difference in your workouts, but what I think, I try to take as many things as possible that are good for cognitive performance, you know.
Obviously, like doing a podcast, you need that.
Increased water, here it is.
Creatine is an osmotically active substance, thus any increase in the body's CR content, creatine content, should result in increased water retention and consequent gains in body mass.
tom segura
Well, I knew about the water retention and that it was a verified to have, like, it's one of the supplements that you can count on for gains.
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, it works.
tom segura
I'd never heard about the brain aspect of it, ever.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's more recent.
They've been talking about that.
You know, it's been used as a muscle supplement since like the 90s or been popular since the 90s.
Jamie, what does it say about, because there was some sort of a study about creatine supplementation to enhance performance with sleep deprivation?
Because there was this study that was showing that, you know, your cognitive performance when you just have like four or five hours sleep drops off a cliff.
I notice it in a big way.
It's 70% of my normal.
A single high dose of creatine can temporarily improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation.
This is due to creatine's ability to prevent a drop in pH level, improve processing speed, increase intercellular energy consumption, and increase high extracellular creatine availability.
Isn't that awesome?
tom segura
That is so fucking cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
I really had no clue about this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
I take it every day.
I had a really poor night's sleep like a month or so ago, and I was going into my writer's room on my show.
unidentified
Oof.
tom segura
To me, when you go, what's the worst things about it when you have bad sleep are, A, physically your workouts suck.
It's really rough when you have poor sleep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
But mentally, I hate doing a show on poor sleep.
And to go into a writer's room where you're supposed to be...
Fast, creative.
Yeah, we're talking about all the stories.
And I took a stimulant.
Holy shit.
It was like I slept fucking 12 hours.
I couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
Which one did you take?
tom segura
Vyvanse.
joe rogan
Yeah?
tom segura
Holy.
joe rogan
Nice.
unidentified
You like it?
tom segura
Oh my god, I was like, can I get some more?
And the person was like, I'm not supposed to give you this.
It was amazing.
joe rogan
I think you have ADD. Or ADHD, whatever the fuck it is.
tom segura
Confirmed.
I think so.
joe rogan
I think we both need Vyvanse, whatever it is.
tom segura
It's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Isn't that the guy who's the vice president under Trump?
No, J.D. Vance.
tom segura
J.D. Vance, the creator of Vyvanse.
I couldn't believe, though, how the...
I mean, I was really dragging.
I was like on one of those, like, I slept three and a half, four hours.
joe rogan
And all of a sudden, bam!
tom segura
I mean, firing on all cylinders.
Really?
It was like I had a great night's sleep.
joe rogan
Really?
I could not believe- What's the come down like?
tom segura
Not that bad.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
No.
Apparently, that's one of the- Don't tell me on this.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
tom segura
The big difference is that the crash from Adderall- I never did Adderall.
I never had it.
But people talk about the post-Adderall crash, but- The Vyvanse, I was like, yeah, I feel fine.
joe rogan
They got it nailed.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
These motherfuckers.
tom segura
They fucking nailed it, dude.
joe rogan
These motherfuckers.
tom segura
And, yeah.
joe rogan
Yo, there's a lot of people out there just turning and grinding all day on amphetamines.
tom segura
That's what it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
joe rogan
I can't believe I'm bringing it up again, but that book over there, Blitzed, is a Norman Ohler book about the Nazis during the Blitzkrieg campaign.
They were all on meth.
tom segura
All of them, yeah.
And then, you know, a lot of people don't.
I talk about it on stage, but people don't know that Hitler was on a lot of cocaine, too.
joe rogan
Oh, Hitler was on a lot of oxycodone, too.
tom segura
Yeah, but the coke part was always like, to me, the thing that I was like, wait, what?
And it was his doctor that was giving it to him.
joe rogan
That's what that book's all about.
tom segura
It's really fascinating how the whole army was all methed out.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
And they would give more meth to the people that were on the front lines.
Like the tank guys, they got the most meth.
Just fucking meth them up.
Makes sense.
tom segura
People on meth.
What is it?
People on...
People on meth love confrontation, you know, like they are...
joe rogan
Aggressive.
tom segura
Yeah, they seek out confrontation.
So I remember I talked to Dr. Drew one time.
He goes, people on cocaine run from the cops.
And people on meth run towards the cops.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
Yeah.
So you give people a really serious coke problem, they see a uniform and they bolt.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tom segura
And then people on meth, when dealing with real meth, people, they see cops and they're like, what's up, bitch?
And they want confrontation with uniforms.
They just seek it out.
That's fucking what they do.
joe rogan
Did you see that football player get pulled over?
tom segura
Yeah, man.
That was fucking wild.
Tyreek Hill?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, on the way to the Dolphins game?
joe rogan
It's interesting.
He just didn't want to roll his window down.
unidentified
I know.
tom segura
And I understand there's a lot of people weighing in on the nuances of this whole thing because it's layered.
But it's like...
I mean, look, I'll never have Tyreek Hill's experience, you know, like being a black guy in America.
In a McLaren.
In a McLaren.
And I don't know what it's like to get pulled over by cops.
My whole thing with cops, if I get pulled over, I always try to be like 10 and 2. Yes, sir.
joe rogan
Yes, sir.
tom segura
People are right.
It's not against the law to not be like that.
You're allowed to fucking be like...
Whatever.
Hurry up and fucking figure this out.
You can do that.
But I just feel like it's not de-escalating things.
But then those cops were fucking hot.
You could tell...
The one in particular felt like to me watching it that he was...
He had felt—maybe humiliated by also either somebody he recognized or just somebody with wealth who is feeling entitled.
That he wanted to show the other cops that, like, I don't take any shit.
Which I feel like it's a human emotion.
Right.
joe rogan
But you can't have that human emotion as a cop.
tom segura
You can't.
joe rogan
You can't act on it, for sure.
You can't just fucking throw somebody— Yeah, to the ground and cuff them as if they're a dangerous criminal.
tom segura
Like he was a violent offender?
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
It was really fucking nuts.
joe rogan
It is nuts.
The whole thing's nuts.
It's nuts, but it's also, it's like, it's nuts both ways, right?
It's like, roll the window down.
tom segura
Roll the window down.
joe rogan
Say yes sir.
Give your driver's license.
You're speeding.
You're going 103 miles an hour.
What are they alleging?
tom segura
I don't know what his issue was.
He just didn't feel like it.
joe rogan
He's in a fun car.
tom segura
That's a fucking fun car.
joe rogan
That's a fun car, bro.
tom segura
Is that a 765?
joe rogan
I don't know what it is.
I don't know anything about McLaren's, but it's fucking dope.
I know.
I remember when you were reviewing one.
When you had that car thing you were doing for a while.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
tom segura
They were giving me...
I've driven a lot of the lineup.
I've driven the 600LT. How come you never got one?
I don't know.
I should get one.
I just drove the new 750S. It's fucking phenomenal.
joe rogan
But they're making cars that just a rich knucklehead can buy that has the most insane speed and power.
tom segura
I've driven, like I said, a lot of the lineup.
When I drove the 765LT... I remember talking to, at the time he was with McLaren in F1, Daniel Ricciardo, and I was like, dude, I just drove this fucking thing.
And I've never, I've been driven a lot of cars.
I've never been more scared of what could happen in a car.
You know, I was just, I was driving down the 110 and we were doing like 70 and it was just open road and I had somebody in the passenger seat and he was like, punch it.
And I mean, in the blink of an eye, we're going 130 and it's just like, it's so fast and so responsive, you know, the slightest input.
And I was like, this is a, it was a scary feeling where I go, I want to hand this in, like I want to turn this in right now and I also want to order one.
Both things were like, I know this is bad for me, but can I get some more Vyvanse?
Because this is fucking pretty cool.
That's what it felt like.
It was terrifying and seductive.
But the conversation that I had with him, I was like, it's crazy that you can just buy this.
And there's no skill requirement associated.
And he and other automotive journalists were like, oh yeah, you should definitely have to prove something to drive something like this.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
Or think about the Corvette ZR1. So that has an even lower bar to entry.
That's like 200 grand, right?
What's a ZR1, the new one?
tom segura
I don't know.
I don't know the price on that.
joe rogan
But that thing's insanity.
That's like 1,100 horsepower, right?
tom segura
Really crazy, yeah.
joe rogan
Insane.
Rear-wheel drive car.
tom segura
And all the manufacturers keep getting crazier and crazier.
joe rogan
Crazier and crazier and crazier.
tom segura
And then you get to the electric stuff, and it's also like, it's a missile, you know?
joe rogan
1,064.
So it's almost 1100 horsepower.
Fucking bananas.
That's so much power for a car.
It used to be if a car had 400 horsepower.
Like I remember I got a Porsche Turbo in like 2003 and it was 420 horsepower.
I was like, this is crazy.
tom segura
That's a bonkers number.
joe rogan
It was.
It was crazy back then.
tom segura
What does this go for?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just Google MSRP for ZR1. You really can't get one.
You have to have an allocation, right?
Is that one?
One for sale?
129. Oh, it's No6?
Oh, that's a Z06. Yeah, Z06 is pretty fucking incredible, too.
So that's $129,000.
tom segura
Oh, there you go.
joe rogan
The ZR1's right.
Yeah, $200,000.
$200,000 Corvette, while others believe that it will start for much less than that.
Oh, so they haven't really got the price out there yet.
Wow.
tom segura
Yeah, that 765 is like $400,000.
It's...
joe rogan
$400,000 is so crazy.
Well, then you got that Hennessy, that Venom thing, that's $3 million bucks.
tom segura
Yeah.
So you get, like, cognizags, Paganis.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Have you seen that Bugatti that has all of its instrumentation is all mechanical, like a beautiful watch?
Mm-mm.
Turns around the gauge cluster, so the gauge cluster maintains in the center of the wheel, and your steering wheel turns around it and it never moves.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
It's fucking magnificent.
tom segura
And what is this in?
joe rogan
A Bugatti.
tom segura
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
I'm not even a Bugatti guy, because Bugatti to me is like, look at my dick!
That's Bugatti, you know?
But look at that fucking thing.
tom segura
Yeah, no, they're sexy pieces of art.
joe rogan
See if you can find the gauge cluster, because the gauge cluster is just complete insanity.
Scroll up so they get to the interior.
I know they have to show it.
There it is.
They're going to show it.
So that's the gauge cluster.
So the steering wheel spins around that stuff.
tom segura
Wow.
joe rogan
So all that stuff sits behind the wheel, and it's all mechanical clocks.
Like, look at it.
It's digital and mechanical at the same time.
tom segura
Oh, he's going over it here, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it is just a piece of art.
tom segura
And this is definitely like $3.5 million.
joe rogan
Oh, crazy money.
If you could get one, right?
It's probably $5 million, but you probably can't even get $3.8 million.
3.8 million pounds or is that pounds or euros?
What is that little thing?
Squiggly thing?
tom segura
That's pounds.
joe rogan
Pounds.
So what is 3.8 million pounds?
tom segura
I mean, it's over four million dollars.
joe rogan
It's an incredible car.
But I mean, you basically have a house.
You're driving around a fucking house.
tom segura
That's too crazy.
joe rogan
Look at that little touchscreen pops up.
Look at that screen.
Whee!
Look how it spins around, says Bugatti.
Ooh, baby.
Why are you laughing?
unidentified
Why does it have to spin around?
jamie vernon
Why did it just come out the way?
joe rogan
Because it's like, look at my dick!
tom segura
It's a total look at my dick.
joe rogan
It's a big old Italian dick.
unidentified
Hey, Joey, look at my dick.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
tom segura
That's incredible.
The technology is just...
I mean, it's like, what will be around in 20 years?
Because I've got to say, when Bugatti, Pagani, and Kona, when they do these things, I always think this is outrageous, but I'm also like, it's so cool that you have a spaceship.
That's basically getting into...
joe rogan
It's a ground ship.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know Sam Altman?
He's always the head of OpenAI.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's always kind of said, I'm not doing this for money.
I don't make any money.
And they just busted him in a $4 million Koenigsegg.
tom segura
They did?
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
Oh, that's awesome.
joe rogan
See if you can find that car.
The video of him in that car.
Oh, I don't need money.
unidentified
But me?
joe rogan
Money?
I'm not even interested in money.
He's driving around a $4 million Koenigsegg.
tom segura
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Look at it!
joe rogan
Go back to the beginning so you can see him get in it.
Does it show him get in it?
No.
That's it.
Elon was mocking him.
Look at that.
Got a $4 million car.
There he is.
Hi, busted.
Hey, bro.
I think you like money.
You don't buy one of those unless you really want to get rich.
tom segura
Yeah, and you also want everyone to know how fucking rich you are.
joe rogan
You want everyone to know how rich, and you're rich right now.
I don't have a $4 million car.
I wouldn't drive with that.
I'd be freaked out.
I can't park it anywhere.
What am I going to do?
That's crazy.
tom segura
It's insane.
joe rogan
So that means he's got way more money than me.
It's like, how much money do you get?
How much money do you make?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
You're driving a $4 million car.
That's so crazy.
And you're telling everybody you're not trying to make money?
I'm interested in money.
If you're not interested in money, you get a Mercedes.
You get a nice S-Class and people will get mad at you.
You really want people to not get mad at you?
Get a Lexus.
Get an LS500, cruise around in style.
No one's going to get mad at you.
tom segura
Yeah, they're fine with that.
joe rogan
You have a $4 million car.
tom segura
Hyper car.
joe rogan
And you're involved in artificial intelligence.
And it's supposed to be open AI and then all of a sudden it became a private company.
There's a lot of weirdness with what happened with the money.
Do you know?
tom segura
Yeah, the amount...
joe rogan
Sam Altman car collection, he's got a McLaren F1. Two McLarens.
tom segura
He's got the F1? He's got some cheddar!
joe rogan
Well, he probably already had a bunch of money already, right?
So how did he come into OpenAI?
jamie vernon
They said he's worth over $2 billion.
joe rogan
Well, there you go.
So he's got a $4 million car.
unidentified
That's why.
tom segura
He's got $2 billion?
jamie vernon
Him and his husband, yeah.
unidentified
His partner.
joe rogan
Shazam!
tom segura
Yeah, that checks out.
unidentified
And also disposable income because you ain't making no kids.
joe rogan
Let's go!
tom segura
Let's go.
joe rogan
$4 million car.
I don't want money.
This money's not important to me.
tom segura
I don't like it.
joe rogan
What did Elon say about it?
Because it was something about Elon mocking him.
It's like, because Elon was a part of OpenAI in the beginning.
Then he was like, hey, this isn't so open.
What's going on here?
tom segura
He brought up the threat that this is.
joe rogan
Elon mocks...
What is he saying?
How's he mocking him?
Oh, what does it say?
OpenAI drive one of those expensive cars.
How did OpenAI become a for-profit business when it was a non-profit?
Elon says, great question.
But also, if this guy was already a billionaire...
jamie vernon
So was he a billionaire before opening AI? I think this was probably separate from...
I can't remember when that happened on Twitter.
I just think someone's adding that in with this video of him in the car.
joe rogan
Oh, are they?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, those dirty bitches.
jamie vernon
He goes around the same time.
tom segura
Just making a point.
joe rogan
You sure that wasn't quoting the actual video?
jamie vernon
It could have been, but I don't think so.
unidentified
It might be.
joe rogan
It might be.
tom segura
What's the origin of his money?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
What's the origin of Sam Altman's wealth?
Where'd he make all the...
Cheddar?
Where he's got a $4 million car.
tom segura
Billions.
unidentified
A $4 million car is also like, look at my dick.
tom segura
Yeah, big time.
joe rogan
It's just like the Bugatti.
tom segura
It's a huge flex.
joe rogan
Look at my dick.
jamie vernon
According to just a quick search, it says various investments through his venture capital firm, including Airbnb, Stripe.
tom segura
Oh, Airbnb was a big one for him.
joe rogan
So he's ballin'.
He was already ballin'.
So don't be hating, kids.
tom segura
That's fine.
joe rogan
The guy's making it.
He's out there rocking in the free world.
tom segura
Fucking rad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The thing about those cars, those cars are really fun, but you know what my most fun car to drive is?
Actually, the most engaging car is my little air-cooled 964, that Porsche RX America, RS America.
The red one?
Yep, not the fastest by any stretch of the imagination.
It's slow compared to...
tom segura
My favorite is my slowest, too.
joe rogan
Which one?
tom segura
My GT4. Yeah.
It has that Daman upgrade.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that car's way faster than my car.
That car's pretty fucking fast.
tom segura
It's pretty fast, but it's not like...
I think everything else I have is almost faster than it.
joe rogan
So it's just engaging.
tom segura
Yes.
Yeah.
And it puts the biggest smile on my face.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
It's very fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's like my white car, the GG3RS, the Shark Works car.
Same kind of thing.
It's just real raw.
But they're not as raw as that little red car.
That little red car is like you're on an awesome ride at Disneyland.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where you're in control.
You feel everything.
No power steering.
There's like power-assisted brakes.
There's no air conditioning, no heat, no nothing.
Light as fuck.
300 horsepower.
tom segura
And it's just a thrill.
unidentified
And it's just...
joe rogan
And it just makes your whole body tingle.
It's exciting.
tom segura
That is, to me, the most fun thing.
joe rogan
You don't have to be going fast.
That's what's crazy.
Merging on the highway, getting to 65 miles an hour is a fucking thrill.
Whereas in the Tesla, it's like...
It's just no sound.
unidentified
Whoosh!
joe rogan
All of a sudden, you're going 70. You don't even notice it.
That car's like...
tom segura
The problem with some of these faster cars that I have and that exist is that a lot of times when you take them out, you're like, yeah, I'm not really getting to drive this thing.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
You know?
Because if you're going 75...
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
You have to go to a track.
You have to.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to.
tom segura
You have to enjoy it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And how often do you do that?
tom segura
That's the fucking thing, is that you tell yourself that we've been doing it together.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And you're like, I want to do this all the time.
joe rogan
Let's do it next month.
It's hard to do, man.
Well, next month we probably can't, because next month is F1. But after F1's out.
After F1. Yeah, after F1's, we'll do another day.
The ultimate baller move.
The ultimate.
Like all these guys, they want to get fucking Chateaus and France and Pohol.
This is the ultimate baller move.
You get a giant piece of land that's flat.
unidentified
And you put yourself a fucking racetrack on it and let's go.
tom segura
Somebody did this in Austin.
It's for sale, I think.
unidentified
What?
tom segura
Yeah, in the greater Austin area.
Don't tell me this.
I swear to God.
joe rogan
Don't tell me this.
unidentified
Don't do this.
tom segura
And then a guy, a billionaire in Japan just built one.
Now you're talking.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I want.
tom segura
He built a track that you can...
You can get a membership at his track.
joe rogan
Oh, that's pretty dope.
tom segura
That's pretty fucking cool.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
So if you know some cool car people, you can hang out together.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want to be alone on your track going, nobody saw my laptop.
tom segura
Cali has that out in Indigo, that area.
It's a private, a really nice track that has a country club.
It has a restaurant, and you can house your cars there.
joe rogan
That'd be so addictive.
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
So addictive.
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
Even just in a Miata.
Just going around in something fun, small.
tom segura
Miatas are amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not about how fast you go.
It's about how much fun it is to go fast.
Mm-hmm.
There's cars that go way...
My Tesla is the best example.
It goes way faster than anything else I own.
But it's not as fun.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
There's a fun factor to the roar of the engine, the feeling of the tires, the shifting the gears yourself, all of it.
The fun part.
tom segura
The fun is just...
I mean, that's the joy of it.
That's why you keep getting them.
joe rogan
And everybody today is chasing numbers.
They're all chasing Nürburgring times and 0-60s and quarter miles.
tom segura
Yeah, and it makes you lose sight of the real thrill of driving.
joe rogan
It's also dangerous for everybody on the street.
You got these Vyvanced-up kids out there with a fucking ZR1. Ah!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a replica of the Istanbul F1 track in Texas, and it's for sale.
Holy shit.
tom segura
Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
This guy's got an F1 track in his fucking yard.
tom segura
Isn't that nuts, man?
joe rogan
That's nuts.
tom segura
And I feel like it's very Texas.
joe rogan
Where is that?
tom segura
This is like the state where you could do it.
joe rogan
That looks like it's down by the ocean.
tom segura
It's in Amarillo.
joe rogan
Scroll up a little so I can see that image better.
Yeah.
Is that the ocean in the back?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
What's that blue shit?
tom segura
I think that's just fields.
unidentified
Oklahoma!
jamie vernon
If it says it's Amarillo, it's all the way up near Oklahoma.
joe rogan
Oh, is that where Amarillo is?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't know where Amarillo is.
jamie vernon
It's in the top, tip-top.
joe rogan
50-acre complex for sale.
Click on it.
How much?
For a reasonable price, it says.
tom segura
Let's go, Joe.
jamie vernon
Let's go.
joe rogan
Two million bucks.
Hang on.
For real?
Hang on.
Hang on.
This thing just got juicy.
How far is that drive?
Find out how far that drive is.
jamie vernon
Five hours.
unidentified
Hmm.
tom segura
How far is that flight?
joe rogan
20 minutes.
tom segura
There you go.
jamie vernon
Pretty quick.
joe rogan
Let's go.
tom segura
Ship cars there once.
joe rogan
Don't make me do this.
tom segura
Come on, dude.
joe rogan
Well, I want to get a ranch.
I've been talking about getting a ranch for a while.
tom segura
There's one for sale right there.
joe rogan
But I want a different kind of ranch.
tom segura
No, you don't.
joe rogan
You want that one.
I want a survival ranch.
tom segura
Hey, it's right there.
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
tom segura
Survival right on the outside.
joe rogan
That's not survival ranch.
It is.
tom segura
It's acres and acres, man.
This is a small portion of it.
joe rogan
I had Chris Harris on the other day.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'd love that dude.
tom segura
Yeah, that dude can drive.
joe rogan
If we had a track, oh, there's an airport right next to it?
jamie vernon
Yep.
joe rogan
If we had a track, like, real close, and we could take Chris Harris out, how much fun would that be?
tom segura
Awesome.
That dude's so fucking great.
I love watching him drive, too.
He's fucking fantastic.
He loves cars, man.
joe rogan
When you're around someone who really loves cars, he loves all kinds of cars, too.
Yeah.
tom segura
He knows his shit.
I like watching his videos.
They're great.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fun dude.
He got fucked over on that whole Top Gear deal.
tom segura
He did?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Top Gear's story, how it ended is horrible.
Ended due to an accident.
And he apparently had gone to the producer saying, we have to stop pushing this.
Someone's going to get hurt or killed.
And then someone got hurt real bad.
Real big guy, though.
And he got fucked up from this, flipped over a three-wheeler.
He got really fucked up but survived.
And then they killed the show.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
tom segura
After he'd kind of warned them.
joe rogan
He also experienced a shit ton of online hate because he was replacing Jeremy Clarkson.
So everybody fucking hated him.
But meanwhile, he's like the best auto journalist there is.
He's so fun.
He's such a good guy.
And people are mad that he's not Jeremy Clarkson.
Like, hey, Jeremy Clarkson's still on the air, you fucking idiots.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go over to the Amazon.
Get the Jeremy Clarkson.
It's great.
Go watch that, too.
You fucking morons.
tom segura
No, that's too bad.
I think Chris does great work.
I love watching him review stuff.
And you can tell, not only is he skilled when he's on track, but that he's genuinely having a good time.
You can tell he loves it.
joe rogan
Oh, he's smiling and laughing.
He's going to do more of his own stuff.
tom segura
Good.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about that.
I was encouraging that.
I was like, you really need to be doing your own thing.
You're so good at automotive journalists.
You're so fun.
People love watching you.
You should be doing your own show online.
You shouldn't be dealing with other people.
There's no need for that.
And also, like, the Top Gear.
Top Gear's a great show and everything like that, but they all want to do, like, crazy stunts.
Like, they threw a car off the side of a bridge with a bungee cord attached to it.
Like, why?
tom segura
Why?
They get to a point on all these shows where it's just a producer pitching a segment.
joe rogan
And what we were saying was, for television, that's what people like.
But for the internet, like for YouTube, completely different audience.
Then you get enthusiasts.
So, like, if you get the newest GT3 RS and Chris Harris is reviewing it, it'll have millions of views.
Because people want to see a guy who can really fucking drive, who really loves cars and understands them, review the car.
I'm like, that's where you're at your best, man.
tom segura
A thousand percent.
joe rogan
For the enthusiast, not for the casual dorks who want to see a car go off a dam on a bungee cord.
tom segura
Yeah, but I mean...
unidentified
Fuck out of here.
tom segura
Also on those internet videos, too, is that the great thing is you get their...
Somebody like him gives you an authentic...
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
And they give you authentic critiques.
Yes.
They're like, you know what?
They change the seats on this new, and it's not as good, or they'll talk about the suspense, and they'll give you the insight that if you're really thinking about getting that car, you go like, oh, maybe I want the previous generation.
They give you real insight.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, he gives a lot of good criticisms of the vehicle.
Matt Farah does a great job with that, too.
tom segura
Matt does awesome with that.
unidentified
Matt's awesome.
tom segura
There's a couple other guys that do that stuff, the straight pipes.
joe rogan
Chris works with Singer.
And, you know, Singer is doing a turbo now.
tom segura
Yeah, they are.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
There's a green one.
He went to go to the factory and they're showing it.
The attention to detail is so fucking incredible.
tom segura
Singer number one, the very first one's here in Austin.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
Yeah, I saw it in person, yeah.
joe rogan
What's it like in person?
tom segura
Pretty cool.
It's cool.
It's a guy who has a few, and he's like, here's number one.
joe rogan
Damn, that's probably worth a lot of money.
See if you can find the Singer Turbo video with Chris Harris, because I just want to see the green one.
And it looks kind of like an old 911 Turbo.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
Yeah, that's it.
But it looks kind of like an old 911 Turbo, but then when you see the details of it, you're like, oh.
tom segura
They do an awesome job.
joe rogan
This is way better than a regular.
tom segura
They're fucking gorgeous.
joe rogan
Way better than a regular.
See if you can find the video.
Because the video is incredible, dude.
No, that's the video of his original car.
This is how I felt.
Click that real quick.
Because that was before Singer.
He had this car made.
And this is...
Oh, no, this is Singer.
Okay, this is the...
This is a different one.
This is just a...
How many years ago was this?
jamie vernon
Like a year ago.
tom segura
22, it says.
joe rogan
Okay, this is the Dynamics and Lightweight Study one.
This is the crazy $3 million Singer.
tom segura
Oh my god.
joe rogan
This one's different.
This one's not a turbo.
This is their super lightweight, incredible car.
This car is incredible.
tom segura
That's Chris driving, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Oh yeah.
He fucking nails it.
joe rogan
But this car is crazy, crazy expensive.
tom segura
Yeah, three million.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's immaculate.
Immaculate.
Singer Turbos.
Put it in Turbo.
Singer, Turbo, Green.
Go to Videos.
Click on Videos.
And go to Recent.
Okay, right there.
Where it says more than 10 years.
Click that.
There you go.
Bam.
Okay.
This is it.
So look at that fucking thing.
So this is the turbo.
So it looks kind of like a 911 turbo from like whatever year that would be, like 1980 or whatever the fuck it was.
But it's way more smooth and polished and refined.
And it's just, when you see it parked and still, it's just amazing.
Like their attention to detail is just off the fucking charts, man.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go back so you can see.
So that's the car.
So they're just going over all the things that they massaged and changed on the car and all the details where you get a sense of what it looks like.
Look at that thing.
tom segura
That is fucking rad.
joe rogan
Cars don't get prettier.
They just get different.
They don't get prettier than that.
They just get different.
And then that dark, cool, metallic green?
Like, look at that thing.
tom segura
I would get talked into this in this moment if they were like, and then you want it?
I'd be like, yeah.
joe rogan
How much do you think that fucker cost?
Because that's not as much as the DLR. No, it's not.
tom segura
I think, I don't know, you're probably...
Or DLS. You get, I mean, there's so much customization involved in it, though.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Probably a million bucks.
tom segura
That or just under, you know, around there.
I think they can make these, from what I remember, for a little bit less than what they were making.
Because they were just doing 964s before, I think, right?
That they can make these...
joe rogan
That's not a 964 chassis?
They don't start with a 964?
tom segura
On the turbo?
I don't know.
But I'm saying on the pre...
Singers were all just one model before.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
Those were more expensive for them to just even produce.
joe rogan
Singer DLS turbo.
Oh, boy.
So, it starts as a 964, but this is a DLS turbo.
tom segura
That's a different one.
joe rogan
That's a different one.
Look how sick that thing looks.
That is another level.
That's the dynamic, lightweight study.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
Porsche Turbo, which is bananas.
tom segura
That thing looks...
joe rogan
That doesn't look anything like anything that's ever existed before.
tom segura
No, and that's definitely more expensive.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
But the one we were just looking at, I think you could produce those for a little less.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
That's insane looking.
Oh, my God.
That thing's insane looking.
tom segura
Are you going to make a phone call after this?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No.
Get away from me.
There's like a line where I won't cross.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tom segura
What's the line?
joe rogan
That's the line.
tom segura
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That looks fucking amazing.
Insane!
But you start getting into million-dollar cars, like, what are we doing?
tom segura
That's okay.
joe rogan
What the fuck are we doing here?
tom segura
Fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just...
No, that's true.
It's not a Bugatti.
It's also a different kind of thing than a, look at my dick!
You know, it's more of like, oh, you know cars.
tom segura
You're a passionate guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what the fuck gets the wheel spinning.
tom segura
That's, yeah.
That's...
That's fucking gorgeous.
joe rogan
I just love that there's people like they're, like, you know, the Gunther Works guy.
There's people that they're making those things.
tom segura
So fucking cool.
joe rogan
I just love that there's someone who just goes so hard.
tom segura
A roof?
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're not even really Porsches, right?
tom segura
I don't know.
joe rogan
They can't even really call them a Porsche.
tom segura
They call them roofs, yeah.
joe rogan
But it looks exactly like a Porsche.
Like, what is this?
tom segura
I definitely want to see what it's like.
joe rogan
Like, go to a roof's website.
R-U-F. When you see the new one that they have, that crazy...
It's water-cooled, right?
But it looks like an air-cooled car, right?
tom segura
Yeah, I've never been in one.
I've just seen photos and videos and stuff.
It makes you go, like, what's this like?
joe rogan
Must be insane.
And there's these cars like that that are just completely...
Look at that.
That's a 9.3 turbo base.
And so that's their turbo R that they make.
Look at that fucking thing.
So this is the one...
These are the ones that are weird.
The ones that aren't...
Like, scroll up.
Scroll back up.
Rough car.
So that one.
So CTR anniversary.
So that one, I don't think is a Porsche.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
I don't think it starts off as a Porsche.
I think it's all their shit.
tom segura
And it just makes it look like...
joe rogan
It looks exactly like a Porsche.
But I don't believe it has...
I think it's a new car...
Yeah, see, Monocue completely developed by Ruff.
Roof, rather.
It's type of radiation is CTR, reminiscent of the legendary Yellowbird.
So the Yellowbird was a Porsche.
There was a roof Yellowbird from, like, what was it, the 80s?
Remember that one?
That Porsche one that was crazy?
But this is not really a Porsche.
This is a roof car that they make.
tom segura
That just looks...
joe rogan
They're basically ripping off Porsche.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean...
tom segura
What about the other ones are modified?
joe rogan
Exactly.
The other one, that one was a 993. That was a, like, they take the base 993 and they juice it up.
But this one, I think, is entirely developed by them.
tom segura
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's supposed to be madness.
It's supposed to be total madness.
tom segura
Roof, holler at me, man.
joe rogan
Completely redesigned.
Yeah.
Scroll up so I can see an image of the front.
Look at that fucking thing.
tom segura
Whoa.
So fucking cool.
joe rogan
And look how fat the tires are.
That thing has some grip.
tom segura
Yeah, you get it, too, why you encounter these people with just, like, nothing but Porsches.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
It's just so...
There's something about them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
You just go, what about the other one that you guys make?
Yeah.
Like, you just kind of want to keep going.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's also something about the size of them, right?
They're so small and compact that when you're in them, you feel like you're in a race car.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're hunkered in there.
tom segura
There's something weird about, even though these get obviously very expensive, I've always felt like it's a more accessible to the world car than other supercars.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
tom segura
You can see a Porsche parked in a grocery store parking lot.
Right.
You're just like, oh, that's fucking rad.
But you see a Lambo and you're like, what the fuck is this person doing?
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
Look at this douchebag.
Out of his mind.
Yeah, it just doesn't feel like it fits.
joe rogan
You got a pink Lambo with the H-E-B parking lot?
tom segura
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Get out of here, bro.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Coming out with your giant sunglasses on, looking for attention.
tom segura
To wrap around.
joe rogan
You're just trying to get punched.
tom segura
Sam and his fucking Conus egg.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's ridiculous.
There's so many people that see people like that too and they really want to smack them.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
They see you with that thing and you're like, I just want to smack that guy and it's fucking stupid.
tom segura
Yeah, nobody has any sympathy for you on the road if you're in something like that.
joe rogan
And you crash?
unidentified
Ha ha!
tom segura
Or try to merge people.
joe rogan
Fuck off.
unidentified
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
You can't get in front of me, douchebag.
tom segura
Yeah, thousand percent.
joe rogan
You gotta go somewhere?
tom segura
No, no.
I was just looking at what it was.
unidentified
Sorry.
tom segura
Sorry.
joe rogan
Addictive, man.
unidentified
I know.
tom segura
Messages.
joe rogan
They're addictive.
You ever thought I'd like going to a flip phone?
tom segura
Oh, Ari style?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Wasn't that Dana, too?
joe rogan
Dana had it in the beginning.
He had a flip phone early on.
But then it got to the point where he has to manage the social media of the UFC, so he has to be able to look at things online.
Oh, that's right.
tom segura
He's saying your praises.
We were with him in Vegas talking about you.
Fucking guy loves you, man.
joe rogan
I love him, too.
He's great.
If it wasn't for him, that sport would not be what it is.
tom segura
You told us the story about him clearing out the New York offices.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
And he put it in the VA. He's checking tapes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And he sees you on Keenan Ivory Way.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
tom segura
He was like, I need this fucking guy.
joe rogan
It was crazy, because in the beginning, I didn't even want to do it.
When he was trying to get him, because I had already worked for the UFC in the past, from 97 to 98. I did post-fight interviews, and I was like, I'm out.
And then they bought it in 2001, and he was trying to talk me into working for them.
I'm like, I don't want to work.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, I don't want to do this.
But I would ask him, you know, hey, have you ever watched K1? Do you guys watch Pride?
Do you know about this guy?
Have you ever seen Funaki fight?
Have you seen Hicks and Gracie?
He's even better than Hoyce.
Like, we started having these conversations, and he was like, how much of this shit do you watch?
I was like, it's the only sport I know.
I don't even know the rules to basketball.
And they blow that whistle.
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
That's hilarious.
tom segura
I told him the story about how when I would go with you on these weekends, and I'm like, you know, just like as a fan of sports and broadcasting, I was like, so where's like your prep book?
You know, like, and you're like, it's all up here.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
You're about to call seven hours.
And you and you said you go, there's nothing else up here cluttering my mind with other sports.
I only know one sport.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
But that's true.
I mean, I do watch fights.
But when I watch fights, I don't have to say, oh, this guy's got a great question mark.
I know.
I know what he does.
I know what that guy does.
tom segura
Yeah, that's impressive, though.
joe rogan
I've seen him fight 100 times.
But it really is true that I don't have any clutter in there.
tom segura
Yeah, I believe it.
joe rogan
I don't have any football in there.
I don't know what's going on with football.
What's an offside?
Why has he got a flag?
What's a down?
Why is it first down now?
What is happening?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, that guy got hurt.
That's all I know.
Oh, that was a bad.
Oh, he ran with the ball pretty far.
I don't know what's going on.
And I don't want to know.
I don't care.
I can still enjoy it.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
I have room for a couple things in my head, you know, like combat sports things, and I just smash them all together.
tom segura
If you had to put something that interests you even somewhat outside of combat sports, MMA and all that, what sport would be like second?
I know it's a distant second, but what would be the one where you're like, oh, I enjoy that?
joe rogan
Where a sport that I don't participate that I can watch?
tom segura
Yeah.
Like that you would sit down and...
joe rogan
Outside of combat sports?
tom segura
Yeah.
If somebody had it on, you'd be like, all right, I'll watch some of this with you.
joe rogan
I maybe would be like, what's going on with cricket?
What are you guys doing?
unidentified
Cricket?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd be like, what is that?
What the hell's happening?
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Why you got that paddle?
tom segura
You'd be interested.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what I really liked watching is soccer.
We went to the Austin professional soccer games.
tom segura
Yeah, C game, yeah.
joe rogan
Soccer's legit.
Here's one of the reasons why soccer's legit and why it's not going to become successful in America is because they don't take breaks.
So there's no fucking commercial time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no time to shove Taco Bell down your face.
tom segura
They don't take any?
joe rogan
No breaks.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Nope.
Nope.
It goes for a certain amount of time.
I forget how long a soccer match is.
tom segura
But it's increased in its popularity tenfold here in the last decade.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, if you go to see it live, it's fucking...
tom segura
I've been to multiple games.
joe rogan
Incredible, right?
tom segura
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
joe rogan
And the arena they have here in Austin is amazing.
tom segura
It's great.
You don't realize...
That it's, you know, compared to what we're used to for, like, American football stadiums.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
It's small.
It doesn't feel small.
Every seat in that house is fantastic.
joe rogan
Yep.
tom segura
And it's, yeah, it's great competition.
We keep getting better players here.
I mean, I was somebody who, you know, I grew up not into soccer at all.
And half my family was like, what's wrong with you?
Because they're all South American.
joe rogan
Right.
And Argentina's fucking huge, right?
tom segura
Argentina's the fucking...
Bigger than religion.
It is religion.
My Peruvian cousins were all like, how do you not like soccer?
joe rogan
The whole world loves it.
tom segura
The whole world loves it.
But I do think it's cool that in the last...
For me, in the last...
Decade plus.
First of all, we lived in a time with, like, some generational talent, you know, with, like, Ronaldo and Messi.
Right.
And it's, like, shifting now to Mbappe and these just incredible, incredible talents.
So I think high-level anything becomes...
Interesting.
When I would watch the El Clásico, the Madrid-Barcelona game, at the height of these guys' club powers 10 years ago, you're watching such a high-stakes, high-level game, you can have zero interest, and you're like, holy shit, this is so incredible.
And I think that and Premier League stuff...
It kind of drifted over to the point where we're like, hey, soccer's been played here forever.
It just didn't have that same popularity.
But this MLS stuff has continued to grow and grow.
I remember Saturday mornings during our football season, a lot of times you're putting it on now and you'll see...
Soccer games, like, from the Premier League was on NBC for a while.
I don't know if they still have that contract, but here you go.
But, like, it just has, and they keep getting, you know, better talent on the state side that I think we'll continue to see it.
Become more popular here.
joe rogan
If you go see it live, you'll get hooked.
I'll tell you that, for sure.
I bet tennis is like that, too.
tom segura
Oh, my God.
I got to see...
I was on tour in Australia last year, and I got to see the Australian Open men's finals with Djokovic.
Seeing that in person, there's also not a bad seat in that place.
It's a whole other thing.
It made me go, okay, I want to go to all the big Wimbledon.
Really?
He was just incredible to see in person.
Again, just somebody so talented at their sport that watching it live changed.
I played tennis growing up and I've watched tennis tournaments, but live is everything.
I mean, I've told people that about...
UFC, too.
It's like, yeah, it's cool to watch on TV, but it's so different in person.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially with no commentary.
You're just watching the actual violence.
Like, oh, my God!
It's right there.
It seems so real.
tom segura
Yeah.
And then you have a moment of, like, the sound of the crowd dies, and you hear a...
Yeah.
And you're like, oh, that's that guy's face.
Oh, yeah.
It's like, holy shit.
joe rogan
My favorite place to see fights is in the Apex Center.
Because the UFC Apex Center has no audience.
tom segura
Yeah, so small.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
And during COVID, that was the best thing about COVID for me.
tom segura
How about the sphere thing?
joe rogan
It's going to be nuts.
That's this weekend.
tom segura
I know.
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm pretty pumped.
I don't know what they're going to do.
I don't know if they're going to show the fights on the ceiling.
So you know how they have video monitors in the studio where you always see the video monitors showing you the fights?
tom segura
Well, he told us what they're doing.
joe rogan
Can you say it?
tom segura
I don't know.
We were on a podcast.
I don't think it's been released, but he didn't know that.
joe rogan
Tell me.
tom segura
Dude, he's like, it's a fucking movie that's going to play about the history of Of Mexican combat sports.
joe rogan
I know about that.
There's six of them.
There's six different small films.
tom segura
Yeah, okay.
That's what he was telling us about.
And he was just like, it's all, everything is authenticated and the crew that made it is Mexican.
It's just like this huge Mexican plight story.
And I mean, I don't know if the broadcast goes up on the wall.
joe rogan
That's what I'm thinking.
I'm wondering if you can see the fights take place on the ceiling.
tom segura
Jesus.
joe rogan
Which would be an advantage in certain positions.
No, I have not.
Have you?
tom segura
No, I heard it's just...
joe rogan
I've heard it's insane.
Where did Burt go to see there?
The Dead?
tom segura
He's seen a few there.
He saw the...
joe rogan
Of course he has.
unidentified
I gotta go!
tom segura
He saw The Dead, and he went to the U2 show when they were there, too.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
tom segura
He said, yeah, I cried so much.
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, emotional.
tom segura
Yeah.
I cried the whole time.
joe rogan
Your liver's failing.
tom segura
My daughters were making fun of me.
joe rogan
They should.
They should mock you.
He doesn't just cry.
He likes to take photos of him crying and then post it on Instagram.
I'm so sad.
My daughter went to college.
Look, is this one good?
How many did he take before he picked that one?
tom segura
He was a fucking mess when I saw him.
joe rogan
Of course.
tom segura
Yeah, the college drop-off has got to be...
Heavy.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's a character.
tom segura
He's on one.
He was in that fucking bender.
joe rogan
How's he doing these days?
He benders, he goes off, he goes on.
tom segura
Yeah, he's on the...
joe rogan
He's leaned up for a little while and he went right back in.
tom segura
He's on a Burt cycle.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was real clean.
And then he was my favorite.
He was like, we were somewhere in Vegas and somebody was like, you know, do you want this?
He's like, can't.
I'm hardcore Quito.
And I was like, okay.
unidentified
Okay.
tom segura
And then we go to this...
I'm like, okay.
joe rogan
This is like what you said, where you twisted your head.
That's such a burr.
unidentified
Horcorkito.
tom segura
Horcorkito.
And then we go to this bar, and we're pouring drinks, porosos drinks, you know?
We're like our brand, and it's like tons of people, and it's a very fun thing.
Everyone's out, and...
Getting bottles and drinks and we're signing things.
And of course, like, you know.
joe rogan
He's throwing them back.
tom segura
He's throwing them back.
And at one point, he's standing there shirtless.
And he goes, I'm absolutely fucking shit-faced.
I go, yeah, I can tell.
And so I go, hey, you know, some time passes.
I go, you want to get out of here?
He's like, yeah.
I go, okay, we're going to go this way out of this place.
And here's the exit.
And he's like, okay.
So I turn this way, say something, then I go, ready?
He goes, I'm going to fucking stay.
And I go, okay.
I'll see you later, man.
So I leave.
I get the fuck out of there.
And then I run into him later.
I'm like, how was it?
He was like, dude, I was so hammered.
I go, yeah, I know.
He goes, yeah, I got back and I ate a dozen donuts.
unidentified
I go, what happened to hardcore keto?
tom segura
He goes, well, I just ate the tops.
And I go, that's not how keto works.
joe rogan
That's even worse!
That's where the frosting is!
What are you talking about?
tom segura
He's a lunatic.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He's still alive.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I wonder how long you can do that for.
I mean, how long can you do that for?
tom segura
Yeah, he goes, he does it, and then, you know, what'll happen is, like, so he's, like, whatever, real crazy right now, and we'll see him in, like, a month, and he'll be like...
Oh, yeah.
My other favorite phrase, he's like, I quit drinking.
I go, when?
He goes, Wednesday.
And I'm like, it's fucking Friday.
He's like, I know, but it's like 48 hours, nothing.
I'm like, that's not...
joe rogan
That's a normal person!
tom segura
That's not how that term works.
And he's like...
So he'll get to a certain point here where he'll be like, I gotta clean it up.
And he'll just, like, really clean it up, you know?
Like...
Won't drink for a while.
Clean up the diet.
You'll see him just thin out.
joe rogan
He takes a picture on Instagram.
tom segura
Takes a good picture.
joe rogan
Sucks his gut in.
tom segura
Sexy picture.
joe rogan
This is me now.
tom segura
And then you'll be like, oh, you're good.
joe rogan
Three weeks later, huge.
tom segura
Yeah, it's a cycle.
joe rogan
Three weeks later, I see him waddle through the fucking green room at the mothership.
I'm like, what the fuck, dude?
The fuck are you doing?
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
He goes hard!
tom segura
He goes hard, dude.
He goes hard.
I've been going hard with eating just super clean, man.
joe rogan
Yeah?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
How long?
tom segura
I'm a couple months in.
joe rogan
Yeah?
tom segura
Yeah.
The funny thing is, by just being so committed to it, anything outside of it now...
joe rogan
You feel it.
tom segura
Yes.
I really didn't have a reference for that before.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
You know?
Because I'm like...
I'm eating a lot of, you know, pretty much the same wheelhouse of shit every day.
Like I have four eggs, blueberries, a little while later, protein shake, lunch.
I had lunch today, 10 ounces of chicken, greens, and I have like little things like peanut butter, jelly pack, like as a bridge.
joe rogan
So you're just staying clean.
tom segura
Yep, and then dinner I'll have 16 to 20 ounces of lean protein, like sea bass, salmon, sometimes I'll have leaner red meats, greens, fruit.
joe rogan
You got someone organizing this for you, or are you just doing it yourself?
tom segura
It was funny.
I did it because I'm shooting my show next month, and I was like three months out, and I was like, fuck, if I don't dial it in right now, I'm going to show up.
joe rogan
You're going to be sloppy.
tom segura
Yeah, and I'm going to show up, and I'm going to be like, I wish.
I just don't want to have regret.
I didn't try.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
tom segura
I was like, I know I'm not going to look like a Marvel guy in three months, but I know I can clean it up in three months.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just don't want to look at yourself on TV and go, fuck.
unidentified
Fuck.
tom segura
Yeah, you fucking loser piece of shit.
unidentified
Look at you.
joe rogan
That's the worst.
tom segura
So I've gone down, you know, I'm down to like 204. Body fat's down.
And I have about another month.
So I'm just sticking to it.
But the funny thing is like...
The other night I got home and the boys were like, they got, what's it called, like the shaved ice machine.
And they've been making those, you know, during the day.
And they're kids.
And they're like, you gotta have one.
I go, okay, I'll try it.
I'll try it.
So they shave the ice in the machine and they pour flavors into it.
And I take, you know, a few spoons.
It's very sweet.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
Dude.
Within an hour, I'm like, ugh, like doubled over, running to the toilet.
joe rogan
Yep.
tom segura
And I'm like, oh yeah, because I can isolate it now.
Before, when I was eating like a trash can, I would just go like, oh, I don't know what it was.
Maybe it was the bread.
joe rogan
Also, you get used to feeling like shit.
tom segura
Yeah, you do.
joe rogan
That's what Duncan's, you know, Duncan had diabetes.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got type 2 diabetes from, I think it's from vaping.
Sugar, for sure, but also vaping.
And the reason why I say this is one of the things he found out, he was getting his blood sugar checked, and it was spiking.
And he's like, I don't even understand.
I'm not drinking any soda.
I'm not eating any sugar.
And then he realized that it spikes after he vapes.
tom segura
Wow.
joe rogan
Because he was monitoring it.
And then he realized, oh my god, there's a reason why this stuff is sweet.
There's fucking sugar in the vapes.
tom segura
That makes sense, because I've tried them, and you're like, yeah, this stuff's really sweet.
joe rogan
It's watermelon.
How else are you going to get a watermelon flavor?
How else are you going to get a peach-flavored vape unless you have some sugar in there?
How are you getting fucking apple-flavored vapes?
tom segura
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
There's sugar in there.
tom segura
There's sugar.
joe rogan
And so the sugar was spiking his blood pressure.
That's insane.
Or his blood sugar, rather.
tom segura
Did he get himself out of it?
joe rogan
Yeah, he got off of it and got on the Zins.
And, you know, it's just you don't realize that you're poisoning yourself until you stop poisoning yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you eat really healthy.
And he was like, dude, I don't need naps anymore.
I have energy all day.
tom segura
This thing has helped me so much, dude.
Like, this eating plan.
I got it from a nutritionist in LA, Dr. Guglia.
And, like, I told him...
A couple weeks into it, I was like, if I don't lose a pound, I'm already gonna thank you for my digestion changing.
I got so used to just explosive shits all the time that Christina was like, are you gonna ever see a doctor?
I hear this violence coming out of the bathroom.
And I'm like, yeah, I gotta go check it out.
And I had a colonoscopy a couple years ago, and they were like, no, you're good.
And I'm like, yeah, but I have diarrhea 14 times a week.
Is that normal?
And they're like, I don't know, man.
So switching to the way I just described my eating now, dude, I have totally normal gut health.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.
tom segura
Yeah, it took me 45 years to figure out.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the things that's very interesting about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. being connected to Trump in this election.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because if Trump winds up winning, they're gonna expose our food systems.
Robert Kennedy, one of the things that he really wants to do is he wants to expose a bunch of problems we have in our food system.
One is glyphosate.
Glyphosate, which is used, it's an herbicide.
It's used all over the fucking place.
It's in a lot of food.
Most people they test, or some incredibly high number of people, test positive for glyphosate in their blood.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because you're getting it from organic vegetables, even.
Like, some vegetables.
I shouldn't say organic.
But you're getting it from, like...
There's some stuff that they just spray it on.
I think it might be corn.
What things contain the most glyphosate?
Let's Google that.
I think it's corn, rice, and different vegetables and fruits.
tom segura
It's fascinating how if you go to Western Europe, you realize that They don't use any glyphosate.
But our food would be illegal in grocery stores.
joe rogan
Our Froot Loops are illegal in Canada.
tom segura
Are they really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because we use dye.
There's all these red dyes and shit in our Froot Loops.
They have the same Froot Loops in Canada.
They're like, no, no, no.
You can't put that stuff in there.
So they have to sell different Froot Loops to Canada than they do to America.
Some of the most common foods with glyphosate.
Oh, non-organic cereals and grains harvested with glyphosate.
These include wheat, barley, buckwheat, millet, rice, oats, wild rice, popcorn, and sorghum.
Wild rice.
So you think wild rice.
Oh, I'm getting wild rice.
It must be healthy.
tom segura
Or popcorn scenes.
joe rogan
But a lot of people think that part of the thing that's going on with people, they say they're glucose or gluten intolerant, that what's actually, it's not gluten that's fucking with them, it's glyphosate.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And we, this is just one of those like...
joe rogan
One of those American things.
tom segura
Like huge conglomerates that's spraying it down.
joe rogan
Yep, yep, yep, Monsanto.
Yeah, so that's Roundup.
And so there's that, and then there's seed oils.
Fucking terrible for you.
And they're in everything.
And they're in everything because they're cheap.
And it used to be industrial lubricant, and they figured out a way to make it...
Somehow or another turn into food.
tom segura
It's so fucking sad that we have...
Also, most people, myself included, you just don't have the knowledge.
You have to inquire and really be curious about this.
joe rogan
And you've got to dig for a long time.
If you talk to your doctors, a lot of times doctors don't know jack shit.
Most doctors spend a shockingly small amount of time in medical school studying nutrition.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Most doctors, they'll tell you, you just need a healthy diet.
I'm like, look at you, doc.
Look at you, doc.
tom segura
You know, I had a fucking neighbor that was a 260-pound cardiologist.
Isn't that crazy?
Like, I'm not exaggerating.
joe rogan
He's seven feet tall.
tom segura
He wasn't.
He's shorter than me.
Oh, God.
joe rogan
That's so big.
tom segura
You tell people, like, hey, man, your heart's...
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
tom segura
It's so crazy.
He was wildly overweight.
joe rogan
Some people just can't control themselves.
They just don't they don't have a history of controlling themselves and so they just don't they just eat I Mean bro, I remember Ralphie Mae We one time we we all left the comedy store and we went to a bar it was Stan Hope me and a couple other comics and Ralphie It was Joey and Ralphie was gonna meet us there.
There was this bar that Stan Hope used to like in Hollywood back in the day before Hollywood was a zombie movie and so Ralphie Doesn't show up.
We're waiting for him.
Like, where the fuck is Ralphie?
We're waiting for everybody outside.
We're going to all go in together and get a table.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we're sitting outside and no Ralphie for a long-ass time.
And then all of a sudden, like an hour later, Ralphie shows up.
And Ralphie's back seat was just filled with rappers.
So this poor guy was so addicted that he couldn't get in his car and drive from the Comedy Store to this bar, which was like two miles away.
He had to stop at a Jack in the Box.
tom segura
And tear it up.
joe rogan
And this was at a time where he got his stomach stapled, so he couldn't eat any meat.
So he wasn't eating meat, so he's eating jalapeno poppers from Jack in the Box.
Just stacks of them.
tom segura
Yeah, he was really sick.
joe rogan
He was sick.
He ate through his stomach stapling twice.
tom segura
I gotta piss real bad.
joe rogan
Oh, let's piss.
tom segura
Okay, let's piss.
unidentified
Let's pee.
joe rogan
Let's pee together.
And we're back.
tom segura
Great pee.
It's just such a game changer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When you have to pee and you can't concentrate, it's so hard to talk.
tom segura
I was just like, your eye starts to flutter.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Makes me think about those debates.
Like, what if someone has to pee in the debate?
You gotta dial your water in just right.
tom segura
I have a pre-show pee routine.
joe rogan
Do you?
tom segura
Yeah, because I would say my fixation is I kind of have to...
During the day, I'm drinking water and a couple of coffees, and it's like if we're on the road...
You know, we go work out.
I'm going to increase the water intake.
Like, start drinking more.
And then, you know, you get ready.
Head over to the venue.
And it's like, okay, I get there.
The show's going to be in 45 minutes.
It's like, I pee.
But then I keep going like, oh, here's a water.
Maybe pour a Diet Coke.
I'm going to take on stage in a cup.
Water.
And then it's like, all right, start the show.
I introduce, you know, opener.
And then I'm like, all right, I'm going to go pee and I'll be...
I'll be back.
And I do that.
And then it's like, hey, he's got five minutes left.
And I always go, do I have to pee again?
Like, this is like a real...
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
It's like you would go to a spa and they're like, you're going to get a massage.
And they're like, do you have to pee?
And I go, do I? I think so.
Yeah.
I think there's four drops left.
I'd like to get them out.
joe rogan
Get them out.
The worst is if you have to shit.
tom segura
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
If you think you're going to go on stage for an hour and you have to take a shit, you're like, oh my God.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much time does he have left?
He has three minutes left.
I can't shit in three minutes.
tom segura
I can't shit in three minutes.
I know.
But your body does this thing where it'll shut the shit thing down.
Unless it's like a real fucking emergency.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Have you ever had that on stage?
tom segura
Have I ever had that?
I have to fucking...
I puked on the side of the stage.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
Yeah, that was...
joe rogan
Were you sick?
tom segura
Yeah, and that was horrible.
Literally in a can in the wings.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Jesus.
tom segura
That was rough.
joe rogan
Did you go back on stage?
tom segura
Yep.
joe rogan
Did they know you threw up?
tom segura
Nope.
Until I told them.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
Nope.
But the pee one, like, I hate when you go, all right, yeah, I'm just going to go out there.
What am I, a fucking toddler?
Just go fucking do your show.
And I was like, five minutes in, I'm like, I have to pee right now.
You know, you just carry that.
Your body will like put it out of your mind.
But there's like this discomfort you have the whole time where you're standing there.
I'm like, I'm gonna be out here for a fucking hour.
joe rogan
I did it once where I ran off stage and I, you know, the mothership, the way I gotta go all the way up, I had to go all the way upstairs and just so hard.
tom segura
And then you ran back?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no, no, I didn't.
It was like I finished my set.
tom segura
Oh, when you finished.
joe rogan
But like halfway through my set, I was like, God damn it, I had to pee.
But someone was in the bathroom like right before I went and I was like, fuck.
tom segura
No, it's, I mean, I've also, I've peed on the side of the stage before, like in a panic.
joe rogan
Jesus.
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
On the ground?
tom segura
No, like in a trash can.
And in a cup.
I've done that, too.
joe rogan
How many times has Ari peed right there?
He pisses in fucking kombucha bottles and everything.
tom segura
No.
Fucking disgusting, man.
joe rogan
He's gross.
He wants you to know he's peeing in the room.
tom segura
Yeah.
To show you his nuts.
Come on, man.
I'm surprised I haven't seen him come.
I've seen him pee so many times.
joe rogan
I know.
We're getting close to October.
We're going to do something this year?
tom segura
Dude, I'm shooting the whole month here.
unidentified
Oh.
tom segura
But I'll be here.
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
tom segura
I'll be here.
joe rogan
You're going to go sober?
tom segura
Sure.
I mean, I'm going to be, like, shooting five days a week, I'm sure.
joe rogan
Do you think we can get Bert to go sober for a month again?
Because last year he was excited to not do it.
tom segura
I don't want to speak for him, but no.
joe rogan
Maybe he could use it though, right?
tom segura
I don't know.
joe rogan
Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for him.
tom segura
No, it's never the worst thing for any of us to take a month off.
joe rogan
It's good.
tom segura
I mean, yeah, I always feel like, I mean, it's what kind of challenge is it for each person, you know?
joe rogan
Well, it's easy for me.
I haven't had a drink since I had a couple glasses.
I had a...
A margarita and a mule Saturday night.
So that was it.
That was the last time I had a drink.
tom segura
Yeah, I had a few drinks Saturday night in Vegas.
joe rogan
I was at dinner with the missus.
But I haven't had anything to drink since then, which is normal.
I can go a week, two weeks.
It's not that big a deal.
tom segura
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
But for Bert, it's a big-ass deal.
tom segura
Yeah, it tests his will.
Will for sure.
Will to live.
Cleans him up.
I think he also kind of gets off on the challenge of it.
Because so many people are like, you're going to struggle online.
joe rogan
Well, Bert's another one that has that delusional, I can't lose.
tom segura
He is.
I remember, what was the one that I was like, what are you doing?
When he was like, I can do the splits.
unidentified
I was like, no, you can't.
tom segura
I think I can.
I was like, you're gonna fucking tear your hamstrings.
joe rogan
When he told me he could, I really believed for a second he could.
I was like, really?
Wow.
tom segura
Yeah.
I know, because it's also one of those things that Burt could...
You know what I mean?
It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities.
It's like, oh, you have this secret skill?
You can also do this?
joe rogan
Right, like when he played tennis.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And he thought he could serve like a fucking pro.
unidentified
Jesus.
tom segura
I know.
He has all these weird...
Like, hidden skills.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I really believe that he could do the splits.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he couldn't even come close.
It wasn't even in the neighborhood where you did a split once in your life and you got to get it back.
Maybe you did it when you were in high school and you can kind of get back there.
tom segura
Do you still do them all the time?
joe rogan
All the time.
I stretch out constantly.
Especially lately.
Because I've been dealing with some real stiff back problems.
When I shoot a lot of archery, I get real stiff in my right side of my lower back and my neck.
Because my bow is 80 pounds to pull back.
So I'm pulling back 80 pounds like 150 times a day.
tom segura
Yeah, so it tightens up.
joe rogan
Everything's tight, so it really helps the stretching.
Massage helps a lot, but man, stretching helps so much.
tom segura
I started stretching, I have like, it's not that unusual, but kind of chronically tight hamstrings, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
I'm like, fuck, and the massage definitely helps, but spending a little time every day working on hamstring stretches has definitely helped me.
joe rogan
It's fucking gigantic.
Everyone should stretch.
And especially for anyone that has stiffness in their lower back.
A lot of that stuff, you'd be amazed at how stretching your hamstrings alleviates a lot of stress on your lower back.
tom segura
Yeah, it's all tied there.
A lot of times that lower back tightness, you just follow the line.
It's like your glutes into your hamstrings, and your hamstrings are super tight.
They're pulling down, and it'll relieve your lower back pains.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I do a lot of hamstring exercises, too, though.
I do a lot of Nordic curls.
I do those.
Those are the shit, man.
tom segura
Once I started getting into those, you know, the knee or toes guy stuff, Is that like laying flat?
joe rogan
Yeah, you lay flat and you pull yourself up with your hamstrings.
It's fucking hard.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard.
I do that for sets of six, like six reps, pulling yourself up.
The first time I did it, I couldn't do one.
I was like, this is crazy.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because I have strong fucking legs.
How can I not do this?
This is nuts.
I couldn't believe I couldn't do it.
I was shocked.
So I really started concentrating on it.
Now, I do sets of six, but I think I could probably do nine.
If I guessed, I think I could do nine.
tom segura
It's that challenging, though.
joe rogan
It's fucking hard, dude.
It's fucking hard.
tom segura
I don't think I've ever tried it.
joe rogan
You should try it.
tom segura
Okay.
joe rogan
We'll do it out here.
I have one right out in the middle of the lobby.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have one in the...
I have an extra one if you need one.
unidentified
Oh.
Okay, cool.
tom segura
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have a bunch of them.
There's the Tibbar guy made me a cool one.
And there's a few other ones.
What's his other guy?
Mr. Infinity.
He made one that's really good.
There's a lot of ones that are adjustable.
They do a bunch of different things as well as just do the Nordic curls.
Like some of them you could do reverse hypers on and a bunch of other lower back exercises.
But it's a great one for stabilizing your knee.
Really good exercise for...
Because there's nothing else like it that's like you're pulling your whole...
Like that's it right there.
That's what it looks like when you're doing it.
tom segura
Yeah, that looks...
joe rogan
That's the Soren X one.
tom segura
Challenging.
joe rogan
It's fucking hard, man.
tom segura
Yeah, it looks like it.
joe rogan
But the one that's really...
The reason why I really like the Tibbar guy one and the Mr. Infinity one is that you can change the angle of it.
So instead of starting flat, like the Rogue one that we have outside, you start completely flat.
And in the beginning, I had to help myself.
I had to, like, what I would do is I'd put two fingers down and give myself a little push with the fingers and then complete the reps of my hamstring and then try to lower myself as much as I could and then catch it.
unidentified
Slowly down, yeah.
joe rogan
But now I've got to the point where I just go all the way down slow and all the way up no problem.
tom segura
That's cool.
joe rogan
And I could do it.
But it took a while to build it up and I was kind of surprised.
Because I thought it was going to be like one of those things like a pistol squat.
Like it looks hard, but I have strong legs.
I can do that.
tom segura
You can do that, yeah.
joe rogan
But I was like, this is fucking impossible.
tom segura
Wow.
Yeah, I'd love to.
joe rogan
But you think about that kind of a pull.
That's it right there.
Who is this one?
unidentified
Tibbar.
joe rogan
Tibbar guys.
This one's a really good one, man.
So you could use it to do back extensions.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
You could use it to do reverse hypers.
Really top-notch stuff and the angle change is huge because you started off give yourself a little bit of an angle So you're already like halfway through the rep and it's much easier and then lower it a little bit and then and then eventually you get to flat Over time.
tom segura
I'd like to try it.
joe rogan
It's especially for rehabbing that bad knee the injured knee mm-hmm It's really good.
I do leg curls, too, with those...
You ever use those monkey feet things?
tom segura
Yeah, I have a monkey feet.
joe rogan
That thing's fucking great.
And then they have a new one, the Monkey Feet Pro, but they have the plates already built into it, and so you can slide a pin out, you know, like those...
Like dumbbells that do that?
tom segura
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, so it's built in and it's flat at the bottom instead of like having a dumbbell that you have to attach to it.
tom segura
That sounds cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the new one, the Monkey V Pro.
That's fucking huge.
But all those different things to stabilize all those muscles and to do knee raises and fucking phenomenal stuff, man.
tom segura
Yeah, that seems awesome.
joe rogan
So if we do Sober October, do you think we should have some sort of a challenge this year or should we...
tom segura
I can't.
I just won't have any time.
Right.
I just will be way too busy.
joe rogan
Are you going to work out at all?
tom segura
Yeah, so I already talked to like my, I go, look, I mean, I've been preparing for this thing by training six days a week and alternating.
Like I had, today was a steady state cardio day, so I did an endurance ride for 60 minutes, a bike ride.
And then tomorrow morning I'll get up and lift.
So you're organized.
I'm organized.
I like structure.
So I'll follow my plan, but I'm able to do right now hour sessions, hour lifting, hour cardio sessions.
Sometimes I can do two a day, if the schedule allows, do two in a day.
But I was like, look, I know when we're in production.
joe rogan
You won't have the time.
tom segura
No, so my trainer and I have been figuring out...
All right, what about like, because I've had days where I go, I don't have an hour, right?
But you can still like get something good going in 30 minutes.
joe rogan
Sure.
tom segura
And I'm like, look, all I got to do, I just don't want to get into working on production and just go into zero, because I'll feel like shit too.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
So figuring out like, okay, I think it has to be a.m.
for me.
This whole idea that I'm going to shoot all day and then at the end of the day you're prepping for the next day and I'm going to go work out now at like 9.30.
It's just not going to happen.
So we're going to try to organize workouts that are more condensed that I'll be able to keep doing through production.
This is six weeks, six, seven weeks of production.
joe rogan
And what is the show?
tom segura
So this is the show that I don't think I've ever...
I've shown you, but two years ago, I had a break on my tour, and I had this distorted sense of income because you're on tour.
I love features, but trying to pull a feature together is a huge undertaking.
But if you want to shoot a short film, It's a lot easier to manage.
So I go, you know, I had all these things that I've written, you know, five to ten page short stories.
And I hit up my friend Rami and I was like, hey, we'd work together.
And so he's the one that directed my music video.
joe rogan
The fucking Steven Seagal one?
tom segura
Yeah, the Steven Seagal one.
So I go, you know, I got a break on tour.
I'm willing to write a check.
To make a short film.
joe rogan
Can I stop you right there?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did Bert ever have a real hard problem with you stabbing him to death?
tom segura
He's like, I don't know, that's just your humor.
He's like, people asked me, and he said, I just told them that's Tom's humor, I guess.
That's what he finds funny.
joe rogan
Because I was like...
If my friend did a video where he stabbed me to death, I might be like...
How does he really feel about me?
Like, what the fuck is going on?
He just stabbed me to death on a video.
tom segura
But he is right in that I do, I mean, if you see the series, you'll see that, like, oh, this is a warm feeling to you.
Like, I just, you know, I just, yeah, yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
This is so ridiculous.
And he's so big in that video.
With the face swap.
tom segura
Yeah, it was a great deep fake at that time, too.
It's gotten so much better now.
But anyway, I tell my friend, I go, I want to shoot a short film, you know, like during this break.
And like, I'll pay for it.
And I just want to shoot and put it out kind of like the music video.
And he was, like, looking at...
I was sending him scripts.
He's like, I think we could actually, if you can take this, like, 11 days, I think we could shoot three.
I'm like, really?
Like, that's going to be fucking crazy to shoot 11 days in a row on break when I should be, like, taking time down.
But I go, okay.
So we sign up to shoot three.
And again, the whole thing is, like...
We'll just make these because I enjoy making them.
You know what I mean?
So we shoot them, and then when we have them, we're like, well, this kind of is like a show now.
It's like an old Twilight Zone, where it's just like, here's a short story.
So then we went back to a white cycle, like a soundstage.
And I shot an introduction to the, like I'm the host of a show.
And then the idea was, you remember I built like, during the pandemic, this pay-per-view kind of website, you know, where people could buy tickets to like live podcasts.
I was like, oh, I know what I'll do.
We'll cut this together, and then this will be the first ticketed pay-per-view event that is a scripted, written show, as opposed to a live podcast, which I was really excited by.
I was like, look, I don't even care.
I don't need to make money.
Even if this helps me recoup a portion of what I spent to make this, I feel like that would be a win.
It's just exciting to try something new like that.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
So it's all cut together.
It's super high production quality.
And I show it to agents, and they were like, you've got to show this to some of the streamers.
I told them my plan.
I was like, yeah, my plan was just to do this.
And they go, I think you can get a series out of this.
And we showed it to Netflix, and they were like, yeah, we'll do a series.
You can do six of these.
So now we spent time obviously in the writer's room writing six episodes worth of these.
and each one, each episode will have like a theme and then short stories that are dark, like twisted, fucked up stories with a comedic twist to it, right?
Like things that are comedic in nature, I would say, but dark.
So I think it's like a, I say like the best way to describe it is it's kind of a comedic black mirror story.
Short stories that are twisted that have a comedic tone.
joe rogan
So do you have the whole, first of all, you really like to be busy.
More than anybody I know.
tom segura
I do feel, I think, better having a lot going on, yeah.
joe rogan
But you like to be overwhelmed.
tom segura
I think there's a line.
I've discovered in my life that there's a line.
And you figure out the line by living.
joe rogan
Well, I'm Coming Everywhere was the line.
tom segura
That was too much.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
Because that was...
joe rogan
That was your tour.
tom segura
That was the last tour.
And that was...
We leave Monday and we do shows Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
And that was week after week.
And that was a lot.
That was too much.
This tour that I've been on this year is like...
This weekend I'm in Eugene, Vancouver, and Denver.
That's it.
Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
I'm home that night.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
The next week, Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto.
It's like three shows, three nights.
That's a much more manageable way to live.
But I had to figure it out.
Production, too.
Production, there's no way to deal, to work in production where I'm writing, producing, I'm directing some of them.
There's no way to do that without being busy.
But it's also a condensed amount of time.
That's what I like about productions is that you...
joe rogan
You only have a few weeks.
tom segura
You see your end date.
We're done here.
So we just have to make it happen.
So, I mean, it'll be a very busy six weeks for me, but it also will be over.
joe rogan
And when are you planning?
When is that going to get out on Netflix?
tom segura
My thought is that it would probably be in the spring, I think.
I think.
So I'm sure that conversation will continue.
joe rogan
That's exciting.
tom segura
But I'm so fucking stoked for it, dude.
Like, we got a great group together to write it.
I get to work with Rami.
I'm working with Jeremy Connor.
Just a great crew.
We're casting here in the next couple weeks.
One of the things I'm honestly super proud of is that I got them to let me do the show in Austin.
We're going to have Austin production, Austin crew.
We're casting Austin actors.
It's like a real Austin production.
That, to me, was very fun.
I was like, I don't want to go...
Move to Atlanta to do this.
I want to do it home.
joe rogan
There's got to be plenty of actors here.
tom segura
Oh, for sure there's actors here.
And we are doing Austin locations.
We're shooting all over the city.
But I think that's fucking cool.
joe rogan
That's pretty dope, dude.
That's exciting.
tom segura
It's a wild show.
When you see this stuff, you're going to be like, you're fucked up, man.
joe rogan
I can't wait.
I'm excited.
So when do you start?
tom segura
Our first shoot day is October 7, I think.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Six weeks of chaos.
tom segura
Six weeks of chaos and then...
joe rogan
There's something about having a goal, too, like a thing that you're working towards.
It just changes your mindset.
tom segura
Yeah.
I think this has helped with even, like I was telling, the focus of nutrition and health.
The discipline of that bleeds into the discipline of the writing and getting these meetings done.
It all comes together.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When I was getting ready to do my live special, knowing that there was a date that this had to be done, and then it was only on one night.
So it was like this super hyper-focus of getting ready for something like that.
And when I did it, after it was over, I was like...
I want to do that again.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
At first I was like, I'm going to do this one time, and I'm never going to fucking do this again, because this is a ridiculous idea to be able to do something live to millions of people on Netflix.
tom segura
Well, you enjoyed the experience.
joe rogan
I liked it.
tom segura
But you liked the heightened pressure?
joe rogan
I liked it.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like it.
I like it a lot.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like it too much.
tom segura
Well, that's kind of how I am about being busy with things.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought about doing a live special?
tom segura
Never.
Never thought about it.
joe rogan
You should do it.
tom segura
You think so?
joe rogan
Yep.
I think everybody should do it.
Yeah.
Everybody's good.
You do good shows.
You do great sets for, you know, headlining sets.
Just get it dialed in to where you know.
tom segura
How that moves.
joe rogan
And let's fucking go.
And just bust that motherfucker out for the whole world.
And you don't have to do editing.
tom segura
That, I'll tell you, I fucking hate.
It's the worst.
You know the last one they called me and they go, so we're going to have to change your release date because you won't watch this.
I was like, oh yeah, fuck man.
joe rogan
I always have that problem.
I don't want to watch me.
tom segura
I know either.
joe rogan
I don't want to.
tom segura
I fucking hated it.
It's gross.
Then I told them I wanted the show that they were like, no, not that.
I go, yeah, no, I want this show.
And they were like, what about the other show?
I go, I don't want that show.
And then everyone was like, I go, you asked me to fucking watch it.
I watched it.
joe rogan
Well, that's got to be...
You can't have anybody giving you advice.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
I don't agree.
I think if a comic is going to put out a special, it should be that comic special, and what that comic thinks should be on that special, and that's it.
I don't want no...
I remember Robbie and Bill Burr were arguing in the parking lot of the comedy store, and Robbie was drunk.
And Bill Burr was like, hey, I'm not gonna fucking argue with you about what my fucking act is while you're drunk at the comedy store.
And it was this, like, incredible moment.
I'm like, yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.
You're not supposed to have someone tell you what the fuck you're gonna put in your act.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
Like, do you know how to do comedy?
No, you don't do comedy, right?
Shut the fuck up!
You shut the fuck up!
This is crazy!
This is a crazy conversation!
tom segura
Yeah, it's, I mean...
joe rogan
But everybody wants to get in there.
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
That's the problem with, like, if you were doing your show, that's the problem with doing anything.
Like, imagine if you did your mom's house and you had a bunch of people you were working for.
tom segura
That's a great analogy.
I mean, yeah.
joe rogan
Especially your mom's house live.
tom segura
Oh, my God.
Well, yeah.
That wouldn't work.
joe rogan
I was at Fear Factor for six years, and I fucking gagged so hard watching that show.
I had to turn away three or four times.
tom segura
I've dry heaved a lot doing that.
It's so gross.
joe rogan
No one would let you do it, but yet it's hugely successful.
tom segura
It's totally true.
I mean, notes-wise, I'll say this.
I experienced this with the book.
I wrote a book a year ago or whatever.
The first time you get notes on anything, a script or anything, you're like, what the fuck is this?
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And then when you do encounter notes of value, because there are notes that you go like, that was a good note.
You have to be able to balance.
Because what ends up happening, the way to really, I think, handle it is you listen to all of them, but you also have to be able to go, I hear what you're saying on this, and I totally disagree.
It's hard to do when you're starting out.
joe rogan
Right.
It's impossible.
tom segura
You just can't.
But once you kind of know yourself and what you're trying to do, you get to go like, oh yeah, that's a good...
I know what you're going for there.
I don't want to do that.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And so I'm not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
But your other note was great.
joe rogan
But could you imagine if you decided that doing your mom's house was too difficult so you're going to bring in some Hollywood executives to help you?
unidentified
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Some actual Hollywood producers that do like Keeping Up with the Kardashians or something.
They're gonna help you produce your mom's house.
tom segura
I mean, I had the fucking...
That's so far-fetched.
It would be such a fucking shit show.
joe rogan
It would be terrible.
tom segura
It would be terrible.
joe rogan
But isn't it interesting that it's so popular?
Yeah.
But people, once it becomes popular, then they would want to get in on it.
tom segura
And here's how we can make it better.
unidentified
Better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Tighten it up.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Figure out a way to make it...
tom segura
Can you imagine somebody telling you how to run this thing?
joe rogan
It'd be impossible.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I can't even take...
I don't even...
When someone asks me to put someone on, even if I would want to put that person on, now I don't want to put them on.
tom segura
Just because they asked you?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't...
I don't want to get into that.
I only want to have people on the show that I want to have on the show, and that's it.
That's the only way I've ever done it.
It's the only way I want to do it.
tom segura
Somebody asked me just like a week ago.
A guy stopped me and he was like, I have a question about podcasting.
I go, what?
He goes, how do you, what's the, like, criteria for asking someone to be a guest?
And I go, what do you mean?
He goes, like, what do you check off?
And I go, somebody I want to talk to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Like, that's the, he goes, that it?
I go, that's it.
joe rogan
That's it.
tom segura
That's what I want to do.
joe rogan
That's the beautiful thing about what we're doing, the beautiful thing about today.
There's never been a time like that, where something can reach fucking millions and millions of people.
And it's just, I want to talk to that guy.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, this guy doesn't think the moon landing's real.
Come on in.
tom segura
Come in here.
unidentified
Let's talk.
joe rogan
You had that fucking hummus cannon guy on.
That nutty dude.
That dude.
tom segura
And the funny thing is, we were exchanging videos of him before that.
Remember we were like, look at this guy.
joe rogan
Is that guy for real?
Like, what do you think is going on?
unidentified
He is for real.
joe rogan
So that's really who he is?
tom segura
That's who he is.
joe rogan
You sure there's not like a little bit of...
tom segura
He understands...
He gets Will Blunderfeld.
He gets that there's...
An angle with which people are seeing this through, and he understands the humor in it, but it's based in, for him, an authentic point of view, for sure.
joe rogan
So he's trying to get straight guys to do gay stuff?
tom segura
He would say it's fucking gayer to not do that stuff.
joe rogan
This is Spartan mentality.
tom segura
The straightest thing you can do is fill another guy up with cum.
joe rogan
It's like one of his quotes.
What's funny about that is that that used to be how warriors live.
tom segura
That's what he talks about all the time.
And he's pretty well versed in Spartan history, samurai.
And he'll know these...
He's like, here's the literature.
He'll show you.
I think, look, the real...
If you want to...
Break down what he's doing.
I think a big part of what he's doing is trying to...
joe rogan
Trick guys into fucking them.
tom segura
That's one of them.
The other one is shedding this masculinity is only this.
That's like the origin of it, right?
Right.
That, you know, you don't have to be this way in order to be...
Or, like, guys are...
Whatever.
So many guys are super homophobic.
It's like the...
That's like the footsteps of all this starting.
And then I think, you know, I think he's very aware of humor.
He has to be.
He totally is.
joe rogan
He calls his dick a hummus cannon.
tom segura
Oh, it's great.
I mean, yeah.
And, yeah, your wonderful starfish receptacle or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever he says.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your dirt hole, whatever it calls it.
tom segura
It's all types of words.
You gotta lick each other's nipples if you're a real man.
But yeah, he knows what he's doing.
I think he knows what he's doing.
joe rogan
How many guys are sucking his dick because of those videos?
tom segura
A couple have probably been like, am I straight now?
I did what you said.
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
But that's the thing.
If someone gets enough followers, there's gonna be, out of every 1,000 people, there's a guy that you can talk into being in a cult.
tom segura
My favorite is this guy right now, Fancy Chef, where he's like...
I don't know.
I haven't seen you Fancy Chef videos.
joe rogan
No.
tom segura
He's just like in his kitchen, and he's in a chef's outfit with the hat, and then he'll put like strawberries in a glass.
He's like, beautiful and nice.
Look at this shit I just made.
You just put strawberries in a glass!
But he keeps...
He's like, book me.
Call me right now.
Millionaires and billionaires only.
And he does this whole pitch about...
How he's like a world-class chef.
And you just keep watching.
You're like, am I getting trolled?
Or is this...
What's going on here?
joe rogan
Is this a delusional person?
Or is this a subtle troll?
tom segura
That's exactly what you do.
And then the more you watch, you're like, oh no, he's delusional for sure.
joe rogan
But meanwhile, being delusional can get you pretty fucking far.
tom segura
It can.
It can.
And like...
joe rogan
So he's cooking food.
What's the food on the left, right there?
What is that?
What has he got going on there?
tom segura
I can't hear it.
joe rogan
Looks like chicken.
unidentified
Beautiful and nice.
Well, he just laid fucking time on top of it.
tom segura
I don't know if that's going to do anything.
unidentified
That's going to say a lot to you.
tom segura
And he goes between this...
There's a lot of wine glasses.
Like, he's always putting something in a glass.
And then...
Look at the top comment.
Day 238 of not knowing whether this channel is satire.
unidentified
Like...
tom segura
It's like...
joe rogan
Jamie, I'm going to send you a guy that I'm addicted to.
I'm addicted to this dude.
It's a BS dining experience.
tom segura
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
And all this dude does is deep-fry food.
tom segura
That's it?
joe rogan
But it just does it with enthusiasm, outdoors.
Give me some volume.
Go down and get the chicken.
Not the snake.
The snake's disgusting.
Go down and get some of that chicken.
Listen to this.
Yeah, he baptizes it in the grease.
Everything gets baptized.
tom segura
That's a lot of chicken, bro.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he's cooking for like parties.
Watch this though. - Baptize that chicken.
unidentified
Season to perfection. - Watch this. - Boston hit that grease you wanna roll.
And watch this right here. - Watch this, watch this. - Baptism.
tom segura
Imagine how good that is, dude.
joe rogan
Oh my god, I get so hungry.
And watch when he puts it out.
unidentified
Watch when he pulls it out.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Come on.
Come on.
Look at that.
Look at that.
unidentified
I'll see y'all in batch number two.
joe rogan
And he does this with everything.
He does it with fish.
Go back to his page.
To his actual page so you can see all the different...
Yeah.
So he's got all kinds of shit.
Look, he's doing crabs and fish.
Look at this.
It's all deep fried.
Terrible for you.
Looks amazing.
He's got waffles and everything.
tom segura
If you were like, what's the decadent thing you kind of want to indulge in where I'm like, When it's done well, I don't know that anything makes me happier than fried chicken.
joe rogan
Fried chicken at Roscoe's with waffles, with butter and syrup, and you get a little piece of the chicken, a little piece of the waffle.
Sensational.
tom segura
Fried chicken where the crisp is done perfectly and the chicken isn't dry?
It's juicy.
joe rogan
That's why that guy's stuff looks so good.
tom segura
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Like a juicy fried chicken.
tom segura
I don't know if there's anything more satisfying.
joe rogan
I got Colonel Sanders the other day.
Not another day, about seven months ago.
I was just driving and I was hungry.
Chicken's probably pretty safe.
Let me pull and get some fried chicken.
It just tasted like poison.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I was like, what's in this?
What kind of oil are you guys using?
When was the last time you cleaned the oil?
At KFC? A random KFC in the middle of nowhere.
So I've had some KFC that's really good.
There used to be a KFC in Woodland Hills.
Every now and then I wanted to cheat.
I'd go in there and get some.
Fuck a bucket of chicken.
unidentified
Let's go.
tom segura
Fried chicken is good.
joe rogan
So good.
So good with hot sauce on it.
unidentified
Oh, baby.
joe rogan
But this one was terrible.
tom segura
You have an unnatural tolerance for hot sauce, don't you?
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
Is this genetic?
joe rogan
I think it is, because my daughter has it.
tom segura
I have one daughter that- You haven't trained up to it?
Or you have, kind of?
joe rogan
I think I've trained up to it too.
tom segura
But one daughter is like...
joe rogan
One daughter just can take anything.
tom segura
And she's fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, she loves it.
She's like really hot stuff.
Like I brought her some of that Senor Lechuga.
I have a partnership with Senor Lechuga.
We make some crazy hot sauce.
There's like Reapers in it.
It's potent.
She's just no problem.
tom segura
So that is kind of...
joe rogan
It has to be genetic.
tom segura
Yeah, because I've been with you and I've been like, what are you talking about?
And you're like, that's fine.
I'm like, that's not fine.
No one else is fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'd fuck up that hot wing show.
I can get down.
tom segura
I think you would.
joe rogan
I can get down.
tom segura
He's the best.
I love Sean Evans.
He's great.
joe rogan
I just don't want to answer questions while I'm eating hot sauce.
It just doesn't make any sense.
But I can get down with some ferocious shit.
tom segura
Yeah, I've seen it.
I'm like, this can't just be natural.
It's natural, but I'm saying that's not everybody.
joe rogan
No, I think there's some genetic and then there's some build-up to it.
But I like it.
tom segura
I like kick, but I don't like that.
joe rogan
I like woof.
tom segura
Really?
unidentified
I like woof.
tom segura
And you don't feel like it...
joe rogan
I start sweating.
My daughter makes fun of me because I'm literally pouring down my face.
She's like, what the fuck is wrong with your head?
tom segura
I start sweating.
But I start sweating way lower.
joe rogan
My clothes are wet.
Like, everything.
tom segura
I love it on eggs.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah!
Yeah, I put Senor Lechuga on my eggs this morning.
I had eggs with elk sausage for breakfast.
Ooh, babe, you want some elk sausage?
I got some.
tom segura
Yes!
joe rogan
Ooh, I'll hook you up.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna leave here.
I'll give you a bunch.
tom segura
Okay.
joe rogan
I got a commercial freezer back there, Phil.
tom segura
Okay.
I'll definitely take some.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, elk sausage is so good, man.
tom segura
And it's just, like, frozen?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tom segura
Is it...
joe rogan
Yep, frozen.
And I got this jalapeno cheddar.
tom segura
What's the best way to prepare that elk sausage?
joe rogan
I like it on a skillet.
tom segura
Okay.
joe rogan
I like it.
I do it on a Traeger, too.
I do it on the pellet grill.
That's good, too.
You can get it to a certain temperature.
I like that, too.
I do it real slow.
I do it like 225 degrees and get it up to like 134 internal and then pull it.
But as long as you don't overcook it, because they do add like a little bit of pork fat when they make it for me, because I get it prepared at like a butcher shop.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
But you're dealing with a much leaner meat.
tom segura
So you can dry it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can dry it out.
There's a fine line.
You want it right where medium rare is.
tom segura
That's what I do.
I love using my pellet grill.
joe rogan
Pellet grills are great.
tom segura
That's great.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they're so easy.
I got the newest Traeger.
I had the old one, but the newest one is so much better.
It's incredible.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it just makes everything smokier.
The effect is better.
The flavor is better.
It's easier to use.
It's got two different probes for temperature.
It alerts you on your app.
You can lower and raise the temperature on the app.
tom segura
I know.
I went out.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
tom segura
I left the house with the boys.
Just check the app.
joe rogan
Yeah, you see the temperature of the food.
You can see the temperature of the grill.
And you can say, you know what?
It's getting a little close.
Let me drop that bitch down to 180. Yeah.
And bang.
tom segura
It's incredible.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Incredible technology.
joe rogan
Well, it's just so easy to use.
I still like an offset smoker, too, though.
I have a real offset smoker that I got.
That is better.
The thing about the real offset smoker, it's much more of a pain in the ass, but there's certain sugars that you get from the wood, the wood itself, like a real piece of mesquite, a real piece of post oak, and you set a little fire underneath there with little sticks and you get it built up, and then you dial it in with the dampers.
It's like a thing.
It's like a lot of work.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the flavor is even more intense.
tom segura
You know, I get so seduced by these videos of people doing things, and I found this, I forget what company it is, makes this Argentine grill.
joe rogan
I got one of those, too.
Grillworks.
tom segura
Where you wheel it over the fire.
You need one of those.
I want one of those.
joe rogan
Grillworks.
unidentified
Yeah, I want one.
joe rogan
Go to Grillworks.
tom segura
I want one of those.
joe rogan
This dude, Grillworks Ben, he hooked me up and I had one installed at my house.
But it's the same thing.
Cranking up.
That is great for steaks.
tom segura
Yeah, just like watching that video.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Because it's the same thing.
You're just using hardwood.
So you just got hardwood cooking.
You get those flames rising up.
Look at that.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
There's a place...
tom segura
Oh, this is the thing that I'm looking up.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
Well, that's the place in Vegas.
unidentified
This is it.
joe rogan
Bizarre Meats, Jose Andres' place.
That's what they use.
tom segura
I want one of these.
joe rogan
I'll get you.
I'll hook you up.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'll have that guy make you one.
tom segura
Fuck yes, dude.
unidentified
You'll love it.
You'll love it.
joe rogan
They're the shit.
tom segura
For a steak, that's nothing better.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
And they have a bunch of different ones.
They can either do a custom build or they can just have one like that that's already made.
They're rolled into your backyard.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking incredible.
tom segura
That's so cool.
joe rogan
And if you dial it in right, if you use meat probes and you slowly cook it and then sear it at the end...
tom segura
Nothing better.
joe rogan
It has that flavor.
Like that place, Bizarre Meats in Vegas.
tom segura
Shout out to Jose, man.
joe rogan
Shout out to Jose.
tom segura
Jose Andres is the shit.
joe rogan
Bro, how crazy was what happened to him in Israel?
tom segura
With his World Central Kitchen folks?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It looks like they targeted them.
tom segura
It's horrible, man.
joe rogan
Didn't they kill like six people?
tom segura
A bunch of people died.
joe rogan
Yeah, who were just trying to feed refugees.
tom segura
It fucking sucks.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
tom segura
It sucks.
And those guys are just, they go, people don't know, World Central Kitchen just goes anywhere there's a disaster.
Yeah.
Hurricane, tornadoes, earthquakes, war zones.
joe rogan
The invasion of Ukraine, they were setting up outside the border.
tom segura
They're just like, people need to eat.
They're not politically siding with anyone.
They're just feeding people.
joe rogan
They're not even publicizing it.
He's just doing it, and then people write stories about the fact that he's doing it.
tom segura
It's incredible.
joe rogan
He's genuine.
There's genuine people that are really filled with real philanthropy, like really want to help people, and that's that guy.
And his food is insane.
tom segura
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That bizarre meat since Vegas is so underrated.
tom segura
He has one in D.C. It starts with a J, I forget.
It's so fucking good.
All Spanish.
unidentified
I think he's got one in Chicago, too.
tom segura
Yeah, he's got a bunch.
He doesn't miss.
That dude's food is amazing.
joe rogan
He's the best.
Tommy Bunz, you're the fucking man.
tom segura
Thanks, brother.
joe rogan
Thanks for doing this, brother.
tom segura
Yeah, of course.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
joe rogan
So when your show comes out, come back and do it again.
tom segura
I would love to.
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
All right.
Bye, everybody.
jamie vernon
Check on the baseball stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, check on the baseball stuff real quick.
jamie vernon
Just a quick check.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Good call.
Good call.
All right.
Open up Google.
High school baseball.
Come on.
jamie vernon
What was the other one you said?
Humidors?
joe rogan
Yeah, humanors and high school baseball.
Nope.
Mostly shit I already look at.
Phones.
Cars.
Halle Berry.
Boxers.
Michael Jordan.
Nope.
Not yet.
Maybe tomorrow.
Maybe eventually.
tom segura
I'll send you...
joe rogan
Right now it seems like all the same stuff that we always talk about.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
I will definitely...
unidentified
Science.
joe rogan
Black Hole.
Stephen Colbert.
Alright, thanks Jimmy.
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