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Aug. 14, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2188 - Adam Ray
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
What's up, baby?
adam ray
Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Good to see you, brother.
adam ray
Dude, thanks for having me, man.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
adam ray
This is a fucking pleasure.
joe rogan
How fun was this weekend, man?
It was insane.
adam ray
It was not since Cher was at the garden.
Has there been so much pandemonium?
joe rogan
Bro, when Brian Holtz was screaming about Billy Joel.
adam ray
I love you going right to that, because I was like, how long are we going to wait until we talk about Holtzman isolating the room?
joe rogan
He was amazing.
He was amazing.
adam ray
Seeing him at the Comedy Store, which we've seen him many times, and then at the Mothership now, seeing him in an arena like that go full-on Holtzman is a real treat.
joe rogan
16,000 people, and he went just like he's in the OR. He opened with Fuck Billy Joel.
adam ray
And then he's like, I don't care if you're famous here!
joe rogan
It's your daughter!
adam ray
Fuck him!
unidentified
We get it!
You play the fucking piano!
adam ray
I mean, yeah, it was wild.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
adam ray
The surprises on that show, I want to hear from your vantage point real quick, from obviously doing arenas for a while now.
A show like that, getting to see you for a moment before you walked out backstage and you were just like, it was cool to see you looking at it like, what the fuck?
This is wild.
joe rogan
I was blown away.
First of all, I have seen Kill Tony evolve from the very beginning.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I saw some of the earliest episodes in the belly room.
adam ray
But you were telling me, Tony came to you and was like, will you do my show?
I got this new.
And you were just like, yeah, fucking, all right, I'll put Buddy out.
And then you have no idea what it was.
joe rogan
No.
When I first did it, I was like, okay, let's have some fun.
I think I first did it, he brought up, I might have first did it at the Ice House.
They used to do it at the Ice House in the Little Room.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that was probably one of the first ones that I did.
And I did a bunch in the belly room, and then it moved to the main room, and then it...
Moved to Texas when everything shut down.
They were trying to do it in the main room for a while with no audience.
They did quite a few episodes with zero audience.
It's just a story of persistence.
adam ray
That's what I keep telling you on comics.
The consistency is so overlooked in this business.
And Tony just...
Believed in it, and also kept finding ways to evolve it.
And the more people, you guys coming on, and then you'd see Saget come on, and more and more people started to go, oh, something different to fuck around with, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, and he just got better at it, too.
adam ray
Yeah, that's a good point.
joe rogan
I mean, he's a...
He's a wizard at hosting that show.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's managing all these moving parts.
He knows when to bring people in.
He knows how to work the panel.
He knows how to let you go, let somebody else go.
It's a dance, man.
And the dude is the best at it.
He's the fucking best at it.
So for me, walking out there and seeing that crowd, I was like, this is insane.
And to see the black keys on stage.
And Jelly Roll.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jelly Rolls sing in New York?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what the fuck is happening, man?
This is crazy!
adam ray
Yeah.
The pops that everybody got, like, all the surprises were so cool.
joe rogan
Oh my god, when Joey Diaz went on stage, it was the loudest I've ever heard an audience cheer for any human being ever in my life.
adam ray
I thought he was gonna be so, you know, taken aback by the roar that he was legit going to run for president.
unidentified
Because he came out and he was like, you cocksuckers back here, I came to the circus.
adam ray
By the way, he came in so hot and rode that high and got in like three or four bangers.
And I saw Tony at the airport last night and he was like, I didn't even hear what he said.
And I go, dude, he said something about like, I played here, I was on quaaludes, they put me in a handicapped section.
And then I fucking came to the circus.
unidentified
It was a different circus where there was no net, the clowns fell, they just fucking swept them out of the way.
joe rogan
Bro, he went off.
adam ray
That was awesome, man.
joe rogan
He went off.
It was classic.
adam ray
And you've never seen me do Dr. Phil probably live, right?
joe rogan
No, I don't think I have.
adam ray
How was that?
joe rogan
I think I might have saw it once at the mothership.
How many did you do at the mothership?
adam ray
I've only done it on Kill Tony twice, and then I did two Phil shows on a Sunday there, but you were gone.
joe rogan
That's right.
Okay, that's right.
No, so that was the first time I ever saw you do it on stage.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I know Dr. Phil.
I know him well.
He's been on the podcast a bunch of times.
Good friends with his son.
Yes, I know.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
So...
adam ray
So what is that like then?
You nail it!
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
It's gotta be weird for him.
It's gotta be weird for him.
This guy is doing a comedic version of him and it's like the most popular guest on Kill Tony.
adam ray
What the fuck, dude?
Of all the...
I mean, dude.
joe rogan
It's a great guest, dude.
It's a great guest.
And, you know, the fucking...
That's not the best image because there you can kind of see that you got that thing on your head.
adam ray
Yeah, the ball cap, yeah.
joe rogan
But you can't tap while you're on stage.
unidentified
It's fucking...
joe rogan
Fucking incredible.
adam ray
It's wild, right?
joe rogan
It's so funny, dude.
You have that character.
That character is like...
adam ray
It's still got the abrasiveness of talk show Phil, right?
Like busting chops.
That's why it makes sense when I'm doing these roast jokes.
joe rogan
Right.
adam ray
You're like, yeah, it doesn't seem...
Because even for me, I didn't know...
I didn't watch a whole season of Phil episodes.
It was during COVID. My wife and I were just stoned and drunk and watching bullshit.
And then we'd see these Phil reruns.
And I was just laughing because these kids would come on and they're like, you know, my mom tried to...
Tell me I can't smoke weed.
He's like, well, maybe you should shut your fucking little twat mouth.
He wouldn't say that.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
adam ray
In a version, he was just like, well, maybe you need to look in the mirror and see that you aren't exactly perfect.
And he just was real abrasive, but in a funny way.
And it's a funny type of character to do this with.
Because everyone has some idea of who Phil is.
But he's not so known that you're like, how do I know this isn't who he is, right?
joe rogan
Right.
adam ray
Right, right, right.
And making him...
I'm not defaming him either.
I'm not up there saying silly shit that's racist or whatever.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
adam ray
It's all goof.
joe rogan
It's very funny.
adam ray
And I think he picks up on that.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a great guy.
I'm sure he does.
I'm sure he's flattered.
adam ray
Well, his publicists are trying to get him to come on my show, which would break the internet.
Because what I want to do at the store or wherever...
Because now we're doing these theater...
I'm doing The Beacon in November and the Miller Theater in Philly in October.
You just got there in the Grammar Just got done the Gramercy, yeah.
But all these Phil theater tours is what we're doing now, like theater shows.
unidentified
Wow.
adam ray
We're gonna do the ACL Live here next year and Majestic and Celebrity Theater in Arizona.
joe rogan
Do you have to pay him?
adam ray
No.
I mean, I fucking...
Where's my...
Hey, Phil, are you still cool with this cam right here?
Hey, Doc.
But so when he comes on, I'm like, dude, it'll break the internet when...
Because, you know, there's a whole intro video and then, you know, please give it for Dr. Phil.
And so I'm thinking, instead of me coming out, he walks out.
And people just go nuts.
And then maybe after 20, 30 seconds, I come out, shake hands.
joe rogan
Well, it's also an opportunity for him to shit on you for having the biggest thing of your career imitating him.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
adam ray
Well, that's what he said when he gave me guest of the year last year.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
adam ray
Yeah, you finally figure out a way to be famous, pretending to be someone other than yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
And you know what though?
Isn't it though a great, like as much as it like is so fun and so fun, and I want to say this about with Tony too, his openness to go, I am always expanding, not only comp, you know, I want to be involved in exploring, expanding comedy, but the Kill Tony show for Tony to, for me to go, Tony, I think Phil on Kill Tony would be fun.
He's an advice guy.
You were giving advice to comics, but for Tony to be like, fuck yeah, let's add more characters is really awesome.
joe rogan
No, Tony takes a lot of risks, and he likes to fly off the seat of his pants.
He likes a little bit of chaos on the show.
Like, twice I showed up with people, and I just brought them on stage.
One time it was Post Malone, and the other time it was Tucker Carlson.
adam ray
Oh, I saw that.
Wait, that was impromptu?
joe rogan
Totally impromptu.
They had no idea they were going to do it until they did it.
When I got there with Post, I was like, You gotta come to the club.
Let's go hang out.
We were having just a great time.
I fucking love that guy.
He's such a nice guy.
adam ray
Yeah, he really is.
joe rogan
He's so nice to everybody.
He's nice to everybody at the bar, downstairs, all the staff.
He's just so normal, man.
He just hangs with you.
He can just hang with you.
And so, anyway, we were just hanging out.
So, you know, we're like, let's go to the club.
And so we get to the club, and Tony was there.
I think we went to dinner.
Did we go to dinner?
Yeah, we went to dinner.
And then after dinner, did you go to Eddie V's?
adam ray
Yes.
joe rogan
Eddie V's is the shit.
adam ray
Eddie V's is the best.
joe rogan
So we leave there, and I go, let's go check out the club, and it was Kill Tony.
You've got to see the show that they're doing.
It's called Kill Tony.
It's crazy.
adam ray
Oh wow, so you're introing to the show.
unidentified
He has no idea.
joe rogan
He has no idea what's going on.
He has no idea I'm roping him into this.
So I don't even have an idea.
But Tony sends me his text, come on stage.
And I was like, alright dude, okay.
I go, come on man, we're gonna go on stage.
He's like, fuck yeah, really?
I go, yeah, come on, let's go on stage.
And he just went with it.
100% went with it.
Sat down, had a great fucking time, had some funny lines.
David Lucas, he looked like an unemployed crocodile hunter.
Oh my god.
adam ray
Oh my god!
Dude, some of David's lines are so spot on.
The joke is just as good as like, what did Jeff Ross call David tell when he came out on night two at the garden?
He goes, you look like you run a, you manage a circus in Bosnia or something?
joe rogan
Something like that, yeah.
Lucas said that I looked like, because I was wearing that crazy fur coat and the glasses, he goes, you look like my 11th grade teacher that you catch outside of school.
adam ray
Dude, I called Dave once.
I go, alright, Hootie and the Bloated Fish.
Yeah, dude.
Dave, that's another part of the show, too, where it's like there's now been so many established parts that people look forward to, which makes an arena show so exciting for the fans because they're like, wow, I'm going to see surprises and bucket pulls.
You have so many elements that are spontaneous, right?
joe rogan
David saying those things was spontaneous in front of 16,000 people and crushing.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's the best at that.
Him and Tony, back and forth.
I told them they should do a podcast with just David Lucas and Tony talking shit to each other.
Because there's compilations on the internet that are like a fucking hour long of just David and Tony just shitting and laughing while they're shitting at each other.
It's the best light-hearted, shitting-on people I've ever seen from two wizards at it.
Like, they're casting spells at each other.
adam ray
Yeah, and fearless.
But an underlying respect to where...
And that's what's really cool.
Yeah, so that there's no personal offense ever taken.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They love each other.
adam ray
Had you ever seen...
You watched, I'm sure, some clips of Shane and I before, like, after we did that show with the Mothership.
joe rogan
Yes, I saw a lot of clips from that show.
Oh, my God.
That show has, like...
What is the number up to now, that episode?
adam ray
That would be 16 million, dude.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
unidentified
Isn't that fucking nuts?
adam ray
Dude, we were in...
It was a Friday, and Tony calls me.
I was doing Kill Tony, but he goes, change of plans, need you to come Sunday.
Bring your makeup gals.
Shane's sticking around doing Trump.
And I go, holy shit.
So in my head, I'm like, this will be fun.
You never still know how anything's going to be received, right?
But I'm just like, I don't know, man.
Shane's as popular and fucking likable and funny as it gets.
And he's only done Trump on his sketch show and on SNL. And I feel like I'll be able to figure out a Biden to whatever.
But I know that Shane's down to play.
So I knew that it was going to be like, we're in the back, dude, we're in the makeup chairs.
And I'm shuffling around and Shane's like, what are you doing for the face?
And I'm like, I kind of got to get the...
You know the half smile going in like that and then and then I was shuffling around and I did the face a few times he started laughing and then at one point I just look in the mirror and he's just going We locked eyes and we started laughing I go what the fuck are we doing dude?
joe rogan
He's the best Trump of all time.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
His Trump is impossible.
adam ray
Bro he was so in the pocket and which is why we like made each other break a few times when we when we did the mothership because it was like I can't believe we're doing this for two hours Yeah, it's incredible.
But to run it back in the garden was like, I think, the move too.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was awesome.
It was amazing.
The whole thing was amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was incredible.
adam ray
Do you love...
joe rogan
To me, it's just, it seems surreal.
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
Like, just standing there, taking it all in.
It's like, what is going on?
adam ray
And how many people want to come in, for Joey to come in, for Harlan to come in?
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam ray
Schultz flew in, I think, from vacay just to be there for that...
joe rogan
No, he was supposed to be, yeah, he definitely flew in, but he was supposed to be at the beginning, but there was a bunch of flights that got delayed.
He still made it.
adam ray
But still, what a cool pop.
Him coming out mid-show.
joe rogan
Incredible.
It was just so fun, man.
Just so ultimately fun.
Just really just a great celebration.
You know, a celebration of the success of the show and of comedy.
Just fun, raw comedy.
adam ray
Totally, dude.
Do you after you know all years of doing this do things like that?
I don't know like mean a little more to like be able to beat to see that like something like that live or is it like does it give you I don't know a little more juice for just comedy in general to know that like We're in a cool time where shit like that is possible and happening.
joe rogan
I guess dude, we're in an amazing time It's an amazing time for stand-up If you're funny and you're trying to have fun and just go out there and be silly, people are looking for that right now, man.
And they're looking for something that rebels against this mind virus.
It's telling you how to think and behave.
We don't like it.
Like, shut the fuck up.
You're not compassionate and also controlling.
That's not possible.
This fucking scolding Shrill fucking stupidity that you hear from people telling you how you have to think and behave.
That these things are not up for debate.
These are like existential threats to humanity and civilization.
They aren't up for debate.
Shut the fuck up.
adam ray
Shut the fuck up.
I'm getting more and more just cognitive of like...
Just jokes, like I get more and more bummed that people get really offended by certain things.
joe rogan
You just gotta stop paying attention.
The key is like...
adam ray
It's just jokes, like no one's really, especially at our level, like people making those jokes, it's like, because it sounded funny and it like was a, you know, I don't know.
You know, to each his own and everything's subjective.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this is what's going on, dude.
There's always going to be people that wouldn't enjoy it.
But they get to see it now.
Whereas before, people just found out what you did.
You went to a club.
You know, if you liked the guy, you liked the guy.
You saw the guy on TV. You went to go see him live.
And that was it.
Now you're getting exposed to people that would never go see you live.
adam ray
Oh, And they just want to talk so much shit.
joe rogan
But that is just because you're getting exposed to more people.
So there's pros and cons.
The pros is, the show gets 16 million views.
That's insane.
Like, what does an average Jimmy Fallon show get?
Let's find out what that is.
Like, what's the amount of people?
adam ray
Maybe in the mills, probably.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
But he's probably the most popular of the late night guys, right?
So what does he get?
I think Jimmy Kimmel quit, right?
Did he quit?
adam ray
No, he's still going.
joe rogan
Oh.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
I thought he was gonna quit.
Is he gonna quit?
adam ray
I just saw Jeff Goldblum hosting the other night.
I think he's on vacation, maybe.
joe rogan
I would get to a point where I'd be like, when can I do a podcast?
adam ray
Did you ever get asked to do that?
joe rogan
No!
adam ray
You doing a song with somebody?
joe rogan
The whole reason why I started a podcast is no one would ever give me money for a radio show.
Not even a radio show.
I was thinking about that.
I remember when Opie and Anthony got taken off the air Because they brought on a homeless guy who said some wild shit about Condoleezza Rice, like wanting to rape her or something fucking awful.
adam ray
I like that this guy was like, at least in the NOAA enough to know who was like in the government.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he was just a crazy homeless guy.
Right.
And Opie and Anthony was a wild show.
I mean, those motherfuckers, especially when they got on XM, they could say whatever the fuck they wanted.
adam ray
Were they definitely at the precipice of things getting a little edgier, radio-wise?
joe rogan
So an average gets 1,720,000 views.
That's for Jimmy Kimmel.
So he's number one.
Oh, okay.
Fallon is 1.4.
Colbert is in the lead with 2.5 million.
So out of those people...
How many of them are tuning in because it's just on TV? Sure.
There's a thing that people do.
It's 11 o'clock, what's on?
You know, especially boomers.
They're locked in.
That's what they've done their whole fucking life.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
See what's on TV. Oh, at 8 o'clock, Colbert's on.
And they just watch a show.
Yeah, those are the same people that believe the news.
Which is ironic.
Did you see what happened with Colbert's audience?
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
So, Caitlin Collins from CNN is on and see if I retweeted it.
It's fucking hilarious.
Constantine from Trigonometry tweeted it and I retweeted it.
I was like, this is crazy.
I just want you to see it before I describe it.
But it is, it's the audience laughing.
CNN being honest.
Watch this.
This is crazy.
What's up, bro?
jamie vernon
Trying to get to Twitter to stop loading.
joe rogan
Oh, this is the government.
They're attacking Twitter because of the Elon Musk thing.
Guaranteed.
Let's just call it that.
Start it from the beginning and go big screen because this is so preposterous.
kaitlan collins
Trump has kind of been thrown on his heels by this, and he's not really sure how to go after Vice President Harris.
unidentified
He knew his attack lines on President Biden.
kaitlan collins
He really has struggled with how to go after someone who's 20 years younger than him, who is a different gender, a different race.
unidentified
it's kind of been this moment where he has not been able to coalesce around a single attack line I know you guys are objective over there that you just report the news as it is oh I know CNN makes that's supposed to be a laugh line it wasn't supposed to be but I guess it is bro Wow.
joe rogan
Bro.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Bro.
How crazy is that?
The audience is like, shut the fuck up.
That is hilarious.
They thought he was being a joker.
They thought that was a joke.
That's how crazy this world has gotten.
Where fucking CNN being unbiased is a joke to people in the audience.
That's so crazy.
And why?
What got accomplished?
If you were running a business, what did you accomplish by doing things that way?
You've ruined your business.
Because now people think you're full of shit.
And you could have just been actual, just straightforward journalist and been beyond reproach and probably got away with, you wouldn't have got as much money.
unidentified
When they got as much money, you gotta get those ads in.
adam ray
Do you think that's what they teach to in journal?
I mean, I don't know.
At some point, like, when do you figure out when you're in journalism school or whatever that, like, there is, uh, there's probably obviously a handful of people, more than that, that want to stay, like, You know, authentic and true and really...
joe rogan
There's a lot of those, man.
adam ray
And then at some point you just, what, get an offer to go somewhere or somebody above you goes, dude, you gotta get that story out like, you know, I don't know, and you're trying to get a name for yourself like any sort of sports pundit, right?
Sometimes they say wacky shit just to get their name out there, but...
joe rogan
Well, it's good for the business, right?
So if they write a thing that says, you know, hey, everybody used to like Trump.
You ever seen videos of Trump on The View with Barbara Walters back when they liked him?
adam ray
You ever seen that?
Yes, but I can't remember what you're referring to.
joe rogan
You should see it, because it's bonkers.
It's literally bonkers.
It's going around.
See if you can find it.
adam ray
Like Barbara, he's just being...
joe rogan
Dude, it's nuts.
It's like literally nuts.
adam ray
Like Sean Connery saying you can hit women nuts?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They love him.
They love him.
Everyone loves him.
adam ray
Trump won The View.
joe rogan
Whoopi loves him.
Wow.
Yeah.
Barbara Walters loves him.
adam ray
Everyone loved him.
joe rogan
Everybody was friendly.
Everybody was like, they were considerate.
They were talking nicely to each other.
There was no attacks.
It was a wonderful conversation.
adam ray
Whoopi, I love your hair.
What do you wash it with?
Syrup?
And they just laughed.
joe rogan
Have you found it?
It's going around.
Somebody posted.
adam ray
Bro, that's wild.
joe rogan
I can't remember who posted it on Twitter, but I was like, this is crazy.
Watching it is just bananas.
adam ray
Do you think they've seen what Shane and I have done at all?
Do you think they've seen people in there?
joe rogan
Trump for sure has.
Yeah, this is it.
Watch this.
This is bonkers.
Go full screen.
This is literally bonkers.
unidentified
My friend.
joe rogan
My friend.
Watch this.
Just watch this.
This is nuts.
We're in an alternative universe.
Okay?
Because this is not that long ago.
unidentified
Go standing O. Bro, watch this.
joe rogan
Just watch how this goes.
Watch this.
So she's a Republican.
That's easy.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
But everybody else.
adam ray
Joy can't wait to get a hug in.
joe rogan
Yeah, everyone's hugging.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Kisses, hugs, kisses to Whoopi.
Everybody hugs and kisses.
adam ray
Even Joy Behar hugs and kisses.
joe rogan
See?
Now, watch this.
unidentified
So, I'm going to take you at your word that you have not decided yet when you're going to run, but you're thinking about it, and you've expressed some of your views, which are controversial, and in many ways, yeah, but I'll...
Not to her.
Well, not to her.
Okay, you're a Republican.
But let's say that you do decide in the spring, right?
And your ideas resonate so much.
On the other hand, you know, we saw Newt Gingrich apologizing for his marriages and divorces.
You've had three marriages, two sort of uncomfortable divorces.
Do you think that...
Not really.
They were very comfortable.
Well, we want me to read that.
adam ray
Getting laughs right away.
unidentified
That would bother anybody?
donald j trump
I think the country is doing so badly, they want somebody that's going to help it.
I think the country has never been in a position like it is right now.
It's being ripped off by every nation, every intelligent nation in the world, whether it's China, they're taking our jobs, they're making all our product, and then they loan us back the money we pay them interest.
That is crazy.
Whether it's OPEC. That's crazy.
OPEC, which is out of the field day right now.
How about the Arab League?
They say, we want you to go in and attack Libya.
These are the wealthiest countries in the world.
Why aren't they paying us?
unidentified
Then they changed their minds also.
donald j trump
No, I did answer your question.
I really think people...
I think maybe 10 years ago it would have mattered, five years ago...
The fact is, I think people want somebody now that's going to protect them and protect this country because we're not going to be a great country for long if we keep going the way we're going right now.
joe rogan
The audience cheers.
adam ray
Yeah. - That's a great problem.
donald j trump
When we have France, France leading the charge, okay?
France, this is our new leader.
By the way, they led for about two hours.
After that, nobody's seen them.
I don't know if you know that.
unidentified
Let me just ask a follow-up question to that.
Let's say you run.
You've given a lot of thought for this.
Who would you like as your vice president, possibly Sarah Palin?
donald j trump
Well, I think it's far too early even to discuss that.
I'm going to make a decision sometime prior to June.
I'm thinking about it very strongly.
I think I'd do a really good job.
I think I'd protect this country like it's not being protected.
Now, it's funny.
So many of the things I say, now politicians are saying, hey, that's right.
Why aren't they paying us?
If you look at North Korea, South Korea, we're protecting South Korea.
They're making a fortune.
Let's call it hundreds of billions of dollars of profit on us.
We have 25,000 soldiers over there protecting them.
They don't pay us.
Why are they paying us?
unidentified
You'd be treating us like a business.
donald j trump
No, no.
A business with heart.
Believe me.
There's a lot of heart.
It's a business, but it's also a business with art.
We will destroy this country.
It won't be a war if the economics of this country keep going the way they're going.
We're not going to have a country.
unidentified
You're kind of a social liberal, Donald.
You know, you're a social liberal.
Could you actually get the base to vote for you in the primary?
donald j trump
Well, every poll is saying that I'm the one that does the best.
You know, they're doing polls.
unidentified
Do you actually have a higher approval rating than Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, John Boehner?
joe rogan
Let's just pause and think.
adam ray
He's very poised, he's listening.
joe rogan
But just grasp the 180. That the media has taken on him since he decided to be president.
When you see the machine go after a guy, we've never seen the machine go after someone as bold-faced.
You know, the prosecutions, the Russiagate stuff on television every night, all of it.
And then to see just a few years ago, they loved him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, he was a Democrat, I think, until like 2000 and something.
2008, maybe?
Something crazy like that.
adam ray
And Clinton, I think they were all pals, right?
unidentified
There's pictures of them at Dave and Buster's and shit, just playing skeeball.
joe rogan
I think he said that he had to pay them to come to a wedding.
Like, they have a price if you pay them to come to a wedding.
adam ray
A pay-to-play as a spectator?
joe rogan
It's an accusation.
It's a Trump accusation.
See, the thing about, it's like, Apparently he said that he was in a helicopter with Willie Brown, but it wasn't Willie Brown, it was Joe Brown, it was a different Brown.
And so, now Willie Brown is saying, that's not true.
Donald Trump says his money drew Hillary Clinton to his wedding.
She had no choice because I gave it to a foundation.
Is that what I just said, is that true?
Yeah, the Willie Brown thing, Joe Brown thing.
I think that was like a mistake he made.
And then people are like, he's old, she's young.
Like, have you fucking seen her mistakes?
This is crazy.
The gaslighting is nuts.
It's the same gaslighting they did to turn Trump into a monster.
Now they're doing that same gaslighting to turn her into our future, our hope.
And it's working.
It's crazy to watch.
It's crazy to watch.
adam ray
Is it crazy to, like, I mean, I don't know, do you think it's only gonna get, like, 20 years from now?
Because the upswing, I guess, of just all social media and media in general, and then also you're taking the people that are, you know, involved, like, it's the perfect mesh of crazy and crazier, right?
joe rogan
So this says, former Trump executive disputes his claim that Willie Brown was on board, right?
This is a woman said, Barbara Rez, the Trump organization's former executive vice president of construction development said, former state senator Nate Holden was on the plane, not Brown.
Was that the same exact helicopter thing?
So it was a helicopter crash, is that what it was?
So no Brown was on there, not Willie or Joe?
adam ray
He's been on tons of helicopters.
joe rogan
It's all the...
You know what she was saying?
You know what she was saying?
Like, he doesn't have an attack strategy.
That's...
I don't think...
You know, this is what I was trying to say when everybody got mad at me.
What I liked about JFK Jr. Or RFK Jr., excuse me.
Robert F. Kennedy is a guy who just goes after issues.
He goes after actions.
He talks about things.
Trump has, like, always in the past, like, attacked...
He's like, attack people, attack people.
And it's just, in this case, I feel like, I don't know if what they're doing right now, the way they're elevating, I don't know if she's ever going to debate him.
adam ray
They locked one in, I think, September 10th.
b-real
What is that going to be like when she's off-grid, off-paper?
adam ray
I don't know.
joe rogan
Off-script.
adam ray
Wild.
joe rogan
Just completely able to say whatever she wants to say.
If we get one of those...
adam ray
You kind of got to match Trump a little bit with his fearless...
Nobody has risen to the level of his...
I'm just going to interrupt and combat everything you say.
You have to go toe to toe and be in the ring.
You can't be there and kind of just...
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
But I do have to say that that one speech that she gave, right after they decided that she was going to be the nominee, that one speech where she said, if you're going to say something, why don't you say it to my face?
It was...
Great timing.
adam ray
It's middle school recess shit.
joe rogan
It wasn't just that, man.
The way that she delivered it was very clear.
It was prepared, right?
And so that means she's coachable, which is very important if you want to be a president.
You've got to be coachable.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
So she figured out how to deliver a banger of a speech, right?
Like, play that, because it's pretty powerful.
adam ray
Yeah, I think she'll have something to say back to him.
joe rogan
No, but this is the thing.
That's a speech.
But when you go toe-to-toe-toe, when you're just talking off the top of your head, that's where she has some issues.
adam ray
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think people lock up when they know that everybody is criticizing every word they're saying.
And you're applying for a job as essentially the mom of the world.
adam ray
Oh, wow, wow.
joe rogan
Or the dad of the world, you know, if he wins.
That's what you are.
You're the fucking dad of the free world, right?
adam ray
What if she just does a Biden impression and goes, you're a sucker.
You're a sucker.
Just throws it right back at him.
joe rogan
There's so many people watching you.
Your brain just freezes up with anxiety.
But listen to this.
This is amazing.
Here's the thing!
unidentified
Here's the funny thing about that.
Here's the funny thing about that.
kamala harris
So he won't debate, but he and his running mate sure seem to have a lot to say about me.
And by the way, don't you find some of their stuff to just be plain weird?
Well, Donald, I do hope you'll reconsider to meet I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage.
unidentified
Thank you.
kamala harris
Because as the saying goes, if you've got something to say, Damn!
adam ray
They knew it was coming.
joe rogan
She nailed it.
adam ray
Yeah, she nailed that.
joe rogan
That alone can get you the president.
We're in an idiocracy.
That alone...
adam ray
You get a couple bigger sound bites, right?
joe rogan
You can't say that's not outstanding.
adam ray
Totally.
joe rogan
She just crushed it.
She crushed it.
She had the big moment...
adam ray
Oh, I'm tuning in.
This is pay-per-view now.
joe rogan
She had the big moment and she crushed it.
And she did it without any ums or stammers, no fucking missed words.
She had a smile.
The laugh made sense.
It made sense there.
unidentified
For the first time.
adam ray
It was in context.
joe rogan
When she laughs, like sometimes she laughs like out of nerves, it seems like.
Just try to get everybody to feel lighter about the situation.
But that wasn't that one.
That was like a genuine, genuine smile and a laugh.
Crushed it!
That's a problem.
That's a problem.
And I don't think they thought she was going to be able to do that.
That's the thing.
You can fucking coach somebody, bro.
It ain't hard.
I mean, maybe she just practiced.
adam ray
Who are these coaches?
Just public speakers and stuff?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, public speaking coaches.
Yeah, there's political speech analysts.
There's people that teach people how to teach.
adam ray
What if David Lucas gets hired to give her some one-liners?
joe rogan
Listen!
adam ray
I mean, there's a crazy world where there's shit like that where there's somebody goes, you need a couple zingers in your back pocket.
I don't know.
joe rogan
100%!
adam ray
Because if that's not your world and your brain doesn't operate like that, Trump's does.
Trump is looking at like, you know, to make a little put down or he's just quick in that way.
joe rogan
Listen, he is quick in that way.
Also, it would behoove him to hire a few great comics to just tour with him and just write one-liners about all these different fucking people.
If he could remember them, I mean, I know he likes to go off his own head, but if he could remember a few Hinchcliffe bangers, if he hires Hinchcliffe to take him on the road.
Do you know how fucking insane that would be?
adam ray
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Hinchcliffe riding bangers for Trump to shit on people with?
adam ray
Comedy cures, and it also is like sometimes what kind of just pushes things over the top, dude.
joe rogan
The thing you're getting from him is you know no one is coaching him, right?
You know he's going off the cuff.
Nobody gets to tell him what to do.
When he goes out there and he tells about things, it's like he's just off the cuff.
Off the cuff.
And that's why it gets sideways sometimes.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it gets a little fumbly sometimes.
But what I'm saying is that what she did was like a pro.
She did that like a pro.
That's where it gets dangerous.
adam ray
You don't think that was calculated?
Do you think that was off the cuff?
Like just responding to what was...
joe rogan
No, that was a 100% planned out thing.
100% and well executed.
Like she fucking nailed it.
The problem is, that's what we're looking for.
It's not even necessarily who has the best policies for the country.
It's not necessarily who's going to make real reform, who's really going to change things and make it better for everybody, versus who looks like the kind of person who should be president, who's talking like a leader.
Who's got the whole order?
Say it to my face!
adam ray
What if that becomes her catchphrase?
joe rogan
That's a mic drop.
adam ray
You're going around to every country.
There's going to be those t-shirts.
That's your iCarumba if you're Bart Simpson.
joe rogan
Well, that's a bit of a problem.
She does repeat the same speeches over and over and over again in these speeches.
So they have all these compilations of her saying things in the exact same order.
adam ray
You've got to mix it up.
joe rogan
But this is the thing that they like about Trump, is that he does not do that.
When Trump goes up there, he is more than capable of talking for an hour and a half straight, be entertaining.
He cracks on things.
He says funny things.
Like he was joking around about Biden, wandering around, not knowing where he is.
It was hilarious.
It was like he was a comic.
He was killing.
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
And I guarantee you, he probably had an idea in his head that he's going to shit on Biden, had an idea how he's going to do it, but that's like just being a freeballer.
You're up there freeballing.
He's the only one that can do that.
adam ray
People do respond to that, too.
Everybody does, like you said, want to look at somebody and go, oh, they represent us well.
The same way like if you have an agent or manager, right?
You want them, if they're out in public, you go, oh, are they an extension of me in a certain way?
joe rogan
You want to see the best at it?
Clinton.
Clinton, when he was running for president the first time.
Bro, let me tell you something, dude.
He's the fucking Michael Jordan of those motherfuckers.
adam ray
I can't argue with that.
unidentified
Dude, old school titty grabber.
adam ray
He probably called tits bazoombas.
joe rogan
Bro, he was an animal.
adam ray
Played the sax on Arsenio.
joe rogan
And this guy smooth talked better than any.
And he was like, that's the president.
You hear him talk, you're like, that's our guy.
Listen to this motherfucker talk.
Let me just get a speech.
This is when he's the president.
adam ray
We've never seen that.
joe rogan
He's the president.
He's playing saxophone.
Give me a little bit of that.
adam ray
of that let me hear it slinging dick before the internet son Up until this point, we'd seen footage of, like, Nixon playing Go Fish.
There was no cool president doing...
joe rogan
No, he was the coolest ever.
unidentified
You know people who've lost their jobs and lost their homes?
Well, I've been governor of a small state for 12 years.
I'll tell you how it's affected me.
bill clinton
Every year, Congress and the president sign laws that make us do more things and gives us less money to do it with.
I see people in my state, middle class people, their taxes have gone up in Washington and their services have gone down, while the wealthy have gotten tax cuts.
unidentified
I have seen what's happened in this last four years.
In my state, when people lose their jobs, there's a good chance I'll know them by their names.
When a factory closes, I know the people who ran it.
When the businesses go bankrupt, I know them.
And I've been out here for 13 months, meeting in meetings just like this, ever since October, with people like you all over America.
People that have lost their jobs, lost their livelihood, lost their health insurance.
What I want you to understand is the national debt is not the only cause of that.
It is because America has not invested in its people.
It is because we have not grown.
It is because we've had 12 years of trickle-down economics.
We've gone from 1st to 12th in the world in wages.
We've had 4 years where we produced no private sector jobs.
Most people are working harder for less money than they were making 10 years ago.
It is because we are in the grip of a failed economic theory.
And this decision you're about to make better be about what kind of economic theory you want.
Not just people saying, I'm going to go fix it, but what are we going to do?
What I think we have to do is invest in American jobs, American education, control American healthcare costs, and bring the American people together again.
joe rogan
Okay, stop.
If that guy runs right now, he wins.
That guy runs right now.
He fucking blows everybody out of the water.
adam ray
Easy listening voice.
joe rogan
The Democrats come home with, like, every fucking state.
That guy wins.
adam ray
Can you do that?
unidentified
I don't know.
adam ray
He can't jump back in, right?
No, no, he can't.
joe rogan
He's not the same guy anymore.
He's not the same guy anymore.
He doesn't have the energy anymore.
He's had a bunch of scandals.
That guy, if you could go back in a time machine and grab that Bill Clinton and run him today, he wins.
And it makes sense.
adam ray
What if there was a younger son, Clinton, that was a spitting image of Bill and Monica Lewinsky was the running mate?
Is there ever a world or is that too in the simulation?
joe rogan
It's too in the simulation.
That would be too strange.
adam ray
Be too strange?
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam ray
But what if she came out and her policies were great and she had to say it to my face, but she goes, and she made jokes about like, and you know, we're going to swallow the competition.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, the problem was she didn't swallow, right?
That's how it got in the dress.
adam ray
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
All right.
adam ray
We'll clean up all the mess.
We'll clean up every dress and mess.
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe she just wanted to keep it here.
adam ray
Yeah, this is just a soft pitch.
I didn't say this was a great idea.
joe rogan
No.
I see where you're going with it, though.
It's nuts that that's what we used to get for choices.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, they made sense.
adam ray
When you saw Arnold in the mix, because I feel like, at least for me, that was because I wasn't, you know, around, obviously, for the Reagan stuff, but, like, to...
The Arnold was my first taste of, like, oh, anybody can do...
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, that was Ronald Reagan when he became president.
adam ray
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, it doesn't make sense to us, but if you were someone who grew up during that time when he was a movie star, it's like, you know, Dennis Quaid being the president.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he's playing Reagan.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
Same gal that did his makeup does my Phil stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, that's wild.
adam ray
She's a goat, Jen Aspinall.
joe rogan
It's just like...
You know, the world has gotten real weird, man.
It's real weird when we know what the trick is.
Everybody's talking about the trick.
I mean, there's all these videos of Kamala off script.
She doesn't talk nearly as clearly.
But if you could just keep her on that script and focus, everything else, now you're still running the show.
You're still running the show just like you were for the last four years.
Because, like, no one even talks about Biden anymore.
Like literally, you don't even care that he's still the president for quite a few months.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's August, kids.
September, October, November, December.
No president.
No president.
And also, how bad does he deteriorate between now and then?
Because clearly that man is at the end of a long road.
adam ray
The presidency took its toll on him, I think.
joe rogan
It takes its toll on everybody, but particularly on him.
Also, although Trump just kind of...
He seemed fine.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
He seemed fine.
Four years didn't age him at all.
adam ray
Yeah, wild.
joe rogan
Wild.
The dude's just water off the duck's back.
adam ray
Well, you look at LeBron.
He's fucking playing 20-plus years.
Some people just got a little extra juice to...
joe rogan
Yeah, but LeBron spends millions of dollars on his body.
He's never been out of shape.
You know, he's constantly...
adam ray
Oh, Trump and LeBron don't spend the same amount of money on their bodies?
A little different.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
joe rogan
You really can't compare the two.
Also, it's not like the NBA ages you like that.
No, it's the stress of knowing you could start a fucking nuclear war.
The economy rides on you.
adam ray
Why would you want that stress?
Even running for president seems like the craziest thing to...
Even just the campaigning.
You see when people drop out after...
Four, five, six, seven, eight months.
I'm like, God, what do you do now?
Like, is that withdrawal or even that come down?
It's like a shroom come down where you're like, fuck, now you're questioning everything because you're like, you put everything into it, but then is there a weird like, fuck, I didn't have enough to even get close?
Or do you just go, all right, I gave it a shot and it wasn't my time.
joe rogan
I mean, it depends entirely on the individual.
I think it's just people just getting fed up that want to throw their self into that crazy race, but that thing is nuts.
adam ray
You never had any of that, right?
unidentified
No.
adam ray
Like, through any part of your, once you even like, yeah, that's wild.
That's a different type of, there's a, wanting to be on stage and make people laugh, because my buddy of mine said this to me just about, you know, as we were talking about, Actors, whoever, running for president.
And he was like, oh, it'd be great if there was a comedian that ran.
And I'm like, yeah, but that's not our...
joe rogan
Al Franken probably could have run.
He probably could have run.
And he probably could have won.
He's a really interesting guy.
He just got fucked.
Yeah, there was a picture.
He was trying to be funny and it wasn't funny.
adam ray
Wrong place, wrong time, wrong hands, wrong boobs.
joe rogan
Trying to be a comedian, trying to be funny.
You know.
adam ray
Oh, wait, real quick, I just had a thought.
When Dice came out and did his, because I wanted to, that, first of all, talking to him about being back in the garden, you're just saying just being funny or whatever, and watching him do his Hickory Dickory joke at the garden again was wild, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam ray
And hearing him talk about being back there was so...
There's so many small things in between the entire Garden experience that I was like, I want to not ever forget this because seeing him even just be there, I was like, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, Dice was kind of on the outs with the comedy community.
It was...
To me, it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen.
It was real weird.
Because he did MTV, and he got banned for life from MTV for telling jokes.
I forget what the jokes were.
adam ray
You're in the Pauly area, or no?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was kind of around that time.
Maybe a little after Pauly was off of MTV. But he had these jokes.
I forget even what he was joking about.
unidentified
Like, tampons or something!
I don't even know what the fuck he was joking around about.
adam ray
That was perfect.
joe rogan
But it was Andrew Dice Clay.
You asked the dirtiest comedian of all time to do a set.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you got mad when he does the kind of jokes that Andrew Dice Clay does.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Do you even fucking watch his shit?
adam ray
No, they probably didn't.
joe rogan
Do you ever watch Dice Rules?
adam ray
They heard he was popular, and they just were like, get the guy who everyone's watching.
joe rogan
I don't know what the fuck they thought.
If they thought he was going to do something different because he was on MTV, I don't know what they thought.
But anyway, they banned him for life.
And there was a lot of comedians that came out against him.
A lot of comedians said that they thought his act was sexist and racist and Yeah, it was.
But it was a character.
There's a man, his name is Andrew Silverstein, and there's this character, Andrew Dice Clay.
And the whole idea is that some stupid people like him.
Stupid people like a lot of things.
But smart people like him, too.
adam ray
Totally.
joe rogan
Because it's jokes.
He's being hilarious.
Saying the most ridiculous shit.
And for whatever fucking reason, he was on the outs.
He wasn't respected by a lot of comedians.
It was real weird.
It was disrespected.
And I was like...
I get it if you don't like that kind of comedy, but it's like, who are you to decide what's good?
Like, I don't think that way, but I think it's funny when people say things that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I'm not really mad at Billy Joel.
I think he's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when Holtzman was shitting on Billy Joel, I loved it.
adam ray
Couldn't get enough, yeah.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
It was funny.
adam ray
Also, nobody shits on Billy Joel, so it was like...
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
That's also why it's funny.
Like, every...
You gotta hit him and hug him, dude.
Everybody has to be fucked with.
I'm sorry.
You know, and there's loving degrees.
Obviously, like, you know, somebody's...
I don't know.
Again, like, jokes, there's...
I mean, some of the jokes I've had with friends who have been really bad hospital bedridden, and, like, that's changed their entire outlook on stuff.
Like, you know, like...
joe rogan
You gotta be able to joke around about stuff.
adam ray
Yeah, dude.
It's a real superpower.
It's really...
I mean, even from some of this Phil stuff, which is so silly, dude.
Some of these messages I get are wild about people.
This kid I met in Jersey was in the Stress Factory.
You ever do this Stress Factory?
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
So I'm doing these shows, and this kid comes up and he's like, my mom has cancer, has four months to live, we've been watching, your Phil stuff is all that she wants to watch, and it makes her smile, so that's our thing now.
And he starts bawling, and I got all choked up, and it was like, just more and more of that happened in the last few years, and not just of that stuff, just...
joe rogan
Dude, comedy's medicine.
adam ray
It's wild, Joe.
joe rogan
It's medicine, it really is.
It's medicine for people.
adam ray
Because I think we get so, and I know I'm guilty of this, like a lot of us, when you're getting going, you're so, you're thinking, you know, yeah, about the show and making people laugh and I'm present and I'm afterwards chatting with people and taking it in.
But those, now that we have this opportunity to receive messages like that or hear it live in the face like that, it's wild.
joe rogan
No, it's amazing.
It really is amazing.
adam ray
And it makes me so even more...
Lucky to like be a part of and you look at something like Kill Tony it's like and be having to be global there's people in probably Beirut they're having a shit day that like saw fucking Hans Kim and they're like dude I always want to see Hans Kim in the garden or whatever their dream was you know well yeah it's it's it really is like a kind of medicine it is for me for sure if someone makes me laugh I feel way better When did you start getting love like that?
joe rogan
What I wanted to say, though, before I forgot, because Dice is embraced now by this class of comedians to this group of comedians that are coming out.
Dice was one of my heroes when I was 19 years old.
I mean, I was laughing so hard.
I was in my car in front of my house with this girl I was dating.
I was 19. We were listening to Dice on a cassette.
We were just sitting in the front seat of my car, just laughing.
It was so funny.
I couldn't believe how funny it was.
And it was just listening to it on a cassette, you know?
And then as I became, you know, a comedian, a headliner, and traveled on TV, all this stuff, and I became friends with Dice.
And then I realized some comedians don't like Dice.
I was like, this doesn't even make sense to me.
Like, what are you guys talking about?
Like, the guy does legitimate performance art on the street.
He does, for no money, he plans it out, he strategizes, and he makes these videos of him stumbling into people and telling them, you wanted the picture?
You wanted the picture with me?
They have no idea who the fuck he is.
And it's genius.
It's genius performance art.
The guy does not get the credit that he deserves.
adam ray
He's silly, too.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
Just for whatever reason, there was this weird time period where comedians hated him.
And I don't understand that.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
I think he got too big, too.
Because he was the first guy to ever sell out arenas.
He was the first guy that was doing those...
Like, he did Madison Square Garden multiple nights sold out.
He does everything.
He did Nassau Coliseum.
adam ray
So it was a classic, got so big people just want to kick him off the mountain?
joe rogan
I think there's a little bit of that for sure because there's no comedians before him that was doing arenas.
And he was doing a different thing because he was doing this thing where everybody knew the jokes and they wanted to say it with him.
What's in the bowl, bitch?
unidentified
And the fucking thousands of people.
joe rogan
It's like a rock band.
You're seeing a band play your favorite song.
So he had the rhymes, man.
The rhymes, you could not go wrong with those rhymes.
And, you know, he's dressed in a fucking giant glittery biker outfit.
It's fucking crazy.
adam ray
I do not like a little bit of that.
joe rogan
It's fun.
It's like there's all kinds of comedy.
You can love that and still love Patton Oswalt.
I think he's funny too.
It's like all kinds of stuff is funny, man.
Duncan Trussell's hilarious.
Everybody's different.
It's okay.
But it's just this class of comedians gets that.
This group of comedians gets just be funny.
It's all bullshit unless you're funny.
adam ray
And another fun thing about Keltony is that it's like, you know, the audience that has cultivated, it's putting, you know, having dice on like that is like, people who may or may not have fully been educated on Andrew will now be like, oh, fuck, and then go back and do a deep dive.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of these kids have no idea he even existed.
unidentified
Yeah, that's wild.
joe rogan
Okay, because they're 20. Yeah.
You know, they're 20 years old.
adam ray
Yeah, they don't see guys' TikTok clips.
joe rogan
They were born in 2004, son.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
That is crazy!
You already had navigation in your car, and those kids were born.
Yeah, and so they don't know what the fuck is going on.
Who's that guy?
Why is everybody clapping?
And you've got to become a comedy historian.
And you've got to go, oh, Dice rules.
And then listen to The Day the Laughter Died.
You want to be a real Dice fan?
You listen to The Day the Laughter Died.
It's two hours long.
adam ray
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Okay?
Rick Rubin produced it.
It's two hours long of him just popping into Dangerfields with no material and bombing.
What?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
On purpose.
On purpose.
In the height of his stardom.
Okay?
This guy's selling out arenas, and he decides to do a two-disc special of him bombing on purpose.
On purpose.
adam ray
I love that.
joe rogan
I mean no material, dude.
No material.
adam ray
Bombed on purpose or bombed?
joe rogan
Bombed on purpose.
Look, if he wanted to, he could have done his act.
And he would have crushed.
They would have been, oh my god, it's dice.
He decides to bomb on purpose.
Dude, it's the craziest thing.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the kind of ego you have to have to be able to bomb on purpose on a CD and then put it out.
No internet, by the way.
This is all in his crazy head, right?
This is not a thing you do because you want to impress people on Reddit.
This is a wild thing he did as an artist.
It really is a wild artist move.
And this is where I think he doesn't get enough credit because everybody thinks, oh, he's just the dirty guy.
He's the guy who tells racist jokes It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Pay attention to what this fucking crazy person's doing.
And the thing he does now, he's not trying to get people to, like, know who he is.
He's just making the most uncomfortable video.
And the people who are fans of it are like, he's a fucking maniac.
He's just walking up to this crazy Chinese lady.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They don't know what the fuck to do.
And he's big, and he's imposing.
He's got these crazy sunglasses on.
He looks like he might be an insane person.
unidentified
Totally.
joe rogan
You're worried about your safety.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah!
It's hilarious.
He's a genius.
adam ray
It's inspiring to see somebody like that that doesn't lose their zest for the funny.
Like even in the green room at the garden, he was doing videos with everybody and he came up and he goes, Phil, do a video for me where I come up and you go, hey, I'm talking to my fans.
And I go, what?
He goes, no, no, but in character.
Right now you're Adam.
Do Phil.
So then he comes up and he goes, hey, Doc.
And I go, Andrew, I'm talking to my friends.
Will you fuck off?
And he goes, Jesus fucking Christ, this guy.
And then And then he puts it back and he goes, I thought I liked this guy.
And then he goes over to Sal and does a little video.
And yeah, he just was like, one the fuck around, man.
And that's what the backstage vibe should be, you know?
joe rogan
Dude, he used to do these little sketches at the store.
And he would do it with a VHS handheld camera.
And he'd do sketches at the store.
And I asked him one night, I go, what are you doing these for?
He goes, for?
It's like, what am I doing it for?
unidentified
Great answer.
joe rogan
It wasn't even like, I'll put it together someday.
adam ray
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He was just having fun.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just having fun.
adam ray
Oh, the first time he brought me up in the OR at the store, Jeff Scott was over there on the keys, and he goes, Jeff, who we got next?
And I'd met him maybe three times, but didn't expect him whatever, but he goes, and Jeff goes, Adam Ray.
And he goes, oh, I love this guy.
And, you know, we didn't know each other.
And he goes...
This guy, you've seen him here, you've seen him there.
Keep it going for my friend, Alan Gray.
And then I get up and he goes, sorry, I had to write it like to me.
unidentified
And I just laughed and I was like, yeah.
joe rogan
I would love when he would go on stage in the OR and there'd be like 10 people in the crowd.
And he would just fuck with them.
adam ray
What a treat to get to see that.
joe rogan
Look at this fucking guy.
Look at this fucking guy with his pants.
It looks like he got attacked by a fucking mountain lion.
How much did you pay for those pants, you fucking moron?
I would call it Mean Dice.
That was my favorite Dice to watch in the OR when he'd do Mean Dice.
adam ray
People love it too.
They're like, Dice is roasting me?
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
They were dying.
It was funny.
It sounds mean when I'm saying it, but Mean Dice was hilarious.
adam ray
He's been to the mothership, yeah?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just happy I was always just would you freak me out to become his friend because I Is that one for you?
That's just crazy that as far as like in the business really like I was young man I was friends with him in my 20s Wow, and I was standing in the back of the car He's the reason why I started going on the road because I was standing in the back of the comedy stories like you should do the road and And I said, why?
I was like, I'm here at the store.
He goes, yeah, I know, but you know what?
You don't want to be attached to Hollywood and these fucking jerk-offs.
He's like, you can make all the money that you need on the road.
He goes, you get an audience.
He goes, you're a funny guy.
You should do the road.
And I was like, I should do the road.
So I started doing the road.
adam ray
Get the fuck out of here.
He just opened you up to the idea.
joe rogan
100%.
For years, I was mostly just doing the store.
And I would do the Laugh Factory, and I'd do the improv.
And I was just doing Hollywood sets.
And occasionally I would do something else where it was a long set, but it was a little awkward because I was mostly doing 15-minute sets, you know?
And so then I started headlining again.
I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you have to do this.
You have to do hours.
You have to do like four hours on a weekend.
Two on Friday, two on Saturday.
But the problem was I always had one foot in and one foot out.
Because one foot in, I was always working on television.
So that was most of my day.
Most of my day on news radio was working on the TV show.
It dampens your enthusiasm for doing the thing that got you to the dance.
I was on a set of news radio once and the producer said to me, why are you still doing stand-up?
You're an actor now.
I was like, oh, no.
adam ray
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
I was just like, this whole cycle of needing people to pick you for something, I was like, yuck!
Get me out of this!
adam ray
Yeah, why are you deciding what I should, you know, be to people?
joe rogan
And it was at that same time where Dice told me, you should do the road.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It was the same time.
So it was like a fortuitous convergence of this guy that I couldn't believe I was friends with.
It was just weird to me.
adam ray
Would those news radio days be so long that sometimes you wouldn't want to go up and do a spot?
Or was it pretty conducive?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I still did it.
I always did it.
I never canceled.
I always did it.
Even though I was exhausted.
adam ray
It was your reward too, right?
You were looking forward to it like, I can get through the day so I can get on stage almost.
joe rogan
It was a little bit of that, but it was also, those were my people.
You know, the comedians were my people.
I had to be around the freaks.
I had to be around the weirdos, the Holtzmans.
I became friends with Holtzman in 94. Wow.
Yeah, so I had to be around those guys.
Those are my compatriots.
adam ray
It is wild how quickly you find that out that you are in the right spot.
I remember when I first started going around the store in, what, 2000?
I started staying up in 2007, so I was right around there, and just going open mics and waiting for four hours, and Tommy telling me I'm going up, and then not going up, and then being like, And he's like, well, maybe come back tomorrow.
But being around, even if I didn't go up, I was around for four hours, and I didn't just sit and wait.
I milled around, and that's where I met Tony and all these guys that you're like, oh, cool, you're doing this too.
And the connecting over that is an immediate bond that's just like, Once you kind of lock eyes with someone, they're like, oh, you're trying to do this too?
Unspoken respect.
And then also like, oh, cool.
Somebody that like, oh, we both didn't go up.
Or you got up.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, well, dude, next time maybe do this.
And then, oh, where are you going now?
You know, it's late.
Like, I'm fucking, I'm jazzed from watching four hours of comedy and not going up.
And I feel like it's sad if I just go to bed.
So, oh, well, let's go fucking play video games and smoke weed and just talk about our experience of that night.
Yeah.
joe rogan
There are wild times that you don't appreciate at the moment because you're worried.
You don't know if the future is ever going to be real.
You don't know if you're ever going to be a real comedian, you know, because you want to do it.
You're obsessed with it, but it's hard to even get on stage.
It's hard to even take the first steps towards the dream.
So it's like even though it's an amazing time and you're going to look back on it so fondly forever, At the time, it's crazy.
At the time, you just don't know.
And that not knowing and not being able to control your destiny as a young person is one of the most terrifying and paralyzing feelings.
Because you don't know if it's going to happen in whatever you're trying to do.
You're a fog of...
Hope and dreams.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I can't see the future.
I don't know if it's ever going to work out.
adam ray
The uncertainty that is a constant cloud over your head.
But also the appropriate amount of delusion and enthusiasm for wanting to make it, right?
Or make it.
I mean, just wanting to be able to work in this world.
joe rogan
Well, I was very fortunate that I'm a very determined person because I was terrible when I started.
Yeah, I mean occasionally I had some good jokes, but I was bad at putting it together, but I didn't know how to write.
I didn't know.
I just knew like what I liked and I knew that I could make people laugh in inappropriate ways.
I just couldn't figure out how to get that.
adam ray
Were you comfy on stage?
joe rogan
No.
It took a while.
It took a while for me to be comfortable on stage.
It was just so crazy.
I was so nervous about it.
But I had fought like a hundred times.
It's just so weird that like getting kicked in the head didn't make me as nervous as talking to people.
adam ray
That's so wild to me.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
There was a lot of fear that came with the fighting that didn't come with stand-up like all throughout the day.
Like, you'd have massive anxiety all throughout the day, on sparring days.
You'd have massive anxiety when you're going to a tournament.
And that's when I became funny, because I would make everybody laugh when we were all freaking out.
Because we were, like, on a bus, driving to New York together to go get kicked in the face.
adam ray
Trying to laugh.
joe rogan
I would just make jokes because it's very likely that one of us might get knocked unconscious.
I'd seen a few of my friends get knocked unconscious and it's a terrifying feeling.
I saw a friend of mine get axe kicked in the face and he was really never the same guy again after that.
He was a really good fighter and we went up to Canada and he fought this guy named Jersey Long.
And Jersey Long was this national champion from Canada who was nasty.
He was nasty.
And he caught my friend in the head with an axe kick and KO'd him.
And I didn't think my friend should have been fighting him.
I didn't think my friend was good enough at that point and experienced enough.
He was good.
He was very talented.
But he didn't have enough experience on a national level.
And this guy was at the peak of his form.
And he fucking caught him so hard.
And it was so horrible watching him crumple and go unconscious.
And I was like, God damn.
It was one of the worst KOs I'd ever seen live from a friend getting KO'd.
I was like, God damn.
adam ray
Did that make you really just reevaluate everything at that point?
joe rogan
Oh, it made me a bunch of times, made me reevaluate.
KOing people made me reevaluate it.
Watching people snoring on the ground and knowing that could have easily been you.
Easily could have been you.
Easily.
You know?
Easily.
There was definitely guys that could have knocked me into the shadow realm.
They just didn't.
I just got lucky.
I got lucky and I never really got knocked out until my last kickboxing fight.
I'd get TKO and I was still conscious.
I was okay.
I got rocked.
I got hit with a left hook and dropped.
My legs just disappeared.
My legs just went, weep, go away.
adam ray
What's that like?
joe rogan
It's weird.
It never happened before.
I'd been rocked before in the gym, but I'd never been dropped where I was really exhausted.
It was my third fight of the night, too.
adam ray
Because even that's a crapshoot, right?
Like when you're getting kicked in the head, you go down or whatever it is that knocks you out.
It's still, right?
There's always the, oh, a couple centimeters to the left and that would have actually...
joe rogan
This guy caught me perfect on the jaw and I think I had my mouth open because I think I was tired.
Because it was, like I said, it was the third fight of the day.
And I remember being exhausted because I would get sick a lot of times before fights because I would get nervous.
So I'd get real nervous and then your immune system drops.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Because you're freaking out all the time.
adam ray
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, and also you're cutting weight.
I'd be cutting my calories down because I was trying to compete in a different weight class.
adam ray
But those nerves don't enter in the comedy.
Like before your live special, which I told you a couple days ago, but it was awesome.
joe rogan
Thanks, thank you.
adam ray
And also I'm just...
I love doing it different, man.
When Harlan Williams did a fucking special outdoors in front of animals, I was like, fuck yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Doing something different.
But the live thing is so...
Not guaranteed, man.
You're prepped.
You're ready.
You've done live.
But like still, you're still...
It's still a new challenge, right?
joe rogan
I said no to it at first.
I was like, I don't want to do that.
Fuck that.
adam ray
We'll put you over the top.
And what were the nerves like that were...
joe rogan
Well, what put me over the top was I was like, why are you scared, pussy?
This is like, what do you like to do?
You like to do things that scare you.
Do this thing, you fucking bitch.
That's exactly what I thought to myself.
Because I said no.
I was on the phone with my manager and she said Netflix wants to do a live special.
I was like, fuck that.
I go, I don't want to do that.
No, no, no.
Tell them no.
Maybe I'll do a special.
But at that time, I wasn't even thinking about doing a special.
I was just working on comedy.
I was just having fun and just doing comedy.
And then being at my own club, it was fucking wonderful.
And then I was like, why are you being such a bitch?
When I said no, and then when I got home, I think, or maybe the next morning, I called her up and I said, don't tell no yet.
Let me think about it.
And then the next day I said, I'm going to do it.
adam ray
Conversations with other people about it?
joe rogan
I didn't tell anybody.
adam ray
A car pep talk or what?
joe rogan
No, no, just my own head was like, this is what you're supposed to do, stupid.
Just do something that scares the shit out of you, because that scares the shit out of you.
But I just realized, like, I'm having great shows.
I know that the material's tight.
It's funny.
I'm like, what am I worried about?
I'm not going to be able to...
I do it every night.
Just do it like a regular night.
And I do everything live.
I do the UFC live.
I used to do YouTube videos we used to do live.
Used to stream the podcast live.
I've done so many shows live, like, what am I worried about?
And I'm like, oh, you're worried about fucking up.
Okay, well, don't think about fucking up.
Think about doing it the best way you can do it.
And the best way I could do it was, like, to over-prepare.
So I prepared like crazy.
I was in at one point in time, I was doing six hours a week.
So I was doing three nights, two shows a night, headlining.
Goddamn.
adam ray
Yeah, you're ready at that point.
joe rogan
After like an hour and 15 minutes of other guys killing, an hour and 15, an hour and a half sometimes.
One time it was an hour and 45 minutes because the Protect Our Parks guys were all with me.
adam ray
Oh shit.
joe rogan
So we all went out and we were blazed.
We were all so drunk.
We were so drunk.
When we got there, we hopped out of the limo and ran upstairs.
unidentified
That's awesome.
joe rogan
It was ridiculous.
At one point, Norman got so drunk during the podcast that he went backstage, threw up, and then went to sleep.
So you know that backstage area?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Like right behind the stage?
adam ray
Real cozy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was sleeping up there.
Yeah, out cold.
So he goes up and then, you know, Ari's hammered.
He goes up.
Brian Simpson was there.
Tony was there.
It was a giant, crazy show.
But all those shows, when you're going up that late, it's like running with weights on.
You've got to keep that momentum going.
You've got to keep things tight.
So all I did was just over-prepare.
I just really listened to a lot of recordings.
I watched the video from Friday night because we recorded Friday night, too.
adam ray
Oh, great.
joe rogan
So I watched that video.
I was writing bits out that I knew, but I was writing them out word for word on a notebook over and over again.
adam ray
And when you're overprepared, I'm assuming, I don't know if you riffed anything in the moment, but I feel like when you are that in the pocket, you're like, all right, now I feel comfy to shoot from the hip.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could just do a show, like a regular show, like how you would do it.
That's how I thought.
I'll just go, I go, I want to overprepare, but I just want to do it like a regular show.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's also a regular show in a theater, which was odd because I had only done my club for a year and a half.
I hadn't done any other venue for a whole year and a half.
Before Friday night, I had not done any other big places.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, for a long-ass time.
I think the last time I did a big place was probably one of the arenas that I did.
And then I went to the club, and then I stayed in the club for like a year and a half.
adam ray
So next special you have to be, what, blackout drunk?
Just to mix it up?
joe rogan
No, I think I'll do a live one again.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was fun.
It was fucking terrifying, but fun.
Like, in the moment, it wasn't terrifying at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was just in the moment and all I was doing was just concentrating on staying in the moment and enjoying myself and having a good time.
And doing it the best I can do it.
I was so prepared because I knew what my transitions were going to be.
I'd done that set in that order for like three weeks.
I was like, I was ready.
adam ray
Yeah, we're going to live stream these Phil theater shows, I think.
Just taking a page out of the Kill Tony book.
Yeah, why not?
Because there's only a handful of theaters we're doing, but it's like there's people...
You know, you can reach way a bigger audience doing that.
And I mean, it's all the film shows all unscripted.
So it's like there's a little more room for, you know, something, whatever.
But I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot, a lot of room for it.
But the most important thing is that's what people like.
adam ray
Yes.
joe rogan
They like that you're going without a net.
adam ray
Right.
joe rogan
They like it.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why they like the live Kill Tonys.
That's why they like all this stuff.
adam ray
Yeah.
Anything can happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, look, Kill Tony at its base, the whole thing is, there's no net.
You know, it's like, you're gonna go up, some guy went up in Madison Square Garden, the first time he ever went on stage, ever.
Ever.
adam ray
That's fucking so crazy, man.
unidentified
Ever.
adam ray
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
I mean, what a mindfuck that must be, to walk out in front of, and by the way, those people were harsh.
adam ray
I was gonna ask you, how do you feel with a joke in?
They're like, so my mom is weird.
They're like, fuck you!
joe rogan
Boo!
adam ray
I mean, the booze come in so quick sometimes.
joe rogan
Also, they're drunk, okay?
There's people out there, they've been ready for this show all day.
They've been day drinking.
They probably went to a pub, got fucked up.
adam ray
Oh, in New York, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're walking, and then they walked into this most iconic arena, their favorite show.
It's live.
There's 16,000 people.
donald j trump
They're fucked up!
Let's go, Tony!
joe rogan
And then some guys on stage, and it's not that good.
unidentified
You're like, boo!
It's normal.
adam ray
I paid for this, yeah.
joe rogan
Especially in New York.
Especially in New York.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
They're not polite.
If it's going south, they're going to let you know.
But that's part of the fun.
Because when it goes great, they let you know, too.
They're great laughers.
Goddamn, when they were laughing, they were laughing hard.
It was a fun show.
It was really fun.
But it's that...
Weirdness of like it could go sideways.
It could be awesome, but it's always gonna be funny.
Yeah, and so and then you got the regulars like William Montgomery is a goddamn national treasure.
adam ray
I can't get enough of him.
joe rogan
I love him to death.
adam ray
Me too, man.
He's so funny, dude He's so fucking funny and he gives it he's so I love to when people are just so he's such a kind guy But he's so like he just commits fully dude, and he's just always in the pocket and he's always and That's a tough thing, too, is going on, like, I've only been on his long panel, or a five, ten minute bit, and it's like, to go on for a minute, and then, however long the interview part is, he's just always, he always delivers, I guess, which is, um...
joe rogan
He's a character, right?
He's this maniacal character, and you can get away with so much as that maniacal character.
adam ray
I met his, uh, he's got two brothers, but I met one, and he goes, hi, my name's Vance, and he goes, I'm William's brother, and I was like, of course you are!
Like, he just had all the William, like, really just a very intense, like, good to see you.
joe rogan
You ever notice how William hugs you?
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He hugs you like he might be stabbing you.
adam ray
He hugs you like a Trump handshake.
Like, he pulls you in and then it's really...
joe rogan
It's weird.
adam ray
Like, he's stabbing you, actually.
joe rogan
Very tense.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, he might want to stab you.
adam ray
What is that?
That's just a...
joe rogan
I don't know what it is.
I'm trying to relax him on it.
For several years now.
He just hugs you and you're like, am I in trouble?
Am I in danger here?
What the fuck is happening here?
adam ray
Are we jumping out of a plane?
Why are you holding onto me so tight?
joe rogan
What a writing exercise that show is.
To have to come up with a whole new minute every week, that's bananas.
It's a bananas experience.
I mean, it's such a crazy job.
And to do it live, in front of a crowd, and then have it on YouTube, and if you bomb, it's on YouTube forever.
It's like, that's the ballsiest shit you can do, man.
adam ray
Let me ask you this.
Would you ever go on...
Like, now that there have been...
You know, I've gone on as a few characters.
Shane going on doing Trump.
If there was ever a pitch to you from Tony or whoever, because you're a good actor, man.
And would there ever be a world if somebody was like, dude, Joe, let's get you up in some...
If I had an impression that was really good...
Like a bucket pole that was like a wild person, not even like a long panel thing, but like a...
joe rogan
Yeah, I would do that.
adam ray
Like a fake person, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
It would have to be a person that I could actually do an impression of.
adam ray
Okay.
joe rogan
Because I'm not that good.
I only have a few.
Like, I can do Dice and I can do Joey.
But it's only a few.
adam ray
But what about an original?
joe rogan
There's a guy named Earl Strickland.
This is my best impression.
My best impression is a professional pool player.
adam ray
Let's go.
joe rogan
For real.
adam ray
His voice or just the way he is?
joe rogan
No, there's a video of me doing an impression of him.
I sound exactly like him.
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
And I say the crazy, he's a genius.
Genius pool, one of the greatest pool players of all time.
But like all people that are incredible at what they do, they're nuts.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Almost all people that are really, really good at things are out of their fucking mind.
And he's out of his fucking mind.
And he's famous for things like he puts ankle weights on his wrists when he plays and tapes up his fingertips and puts shooting goggles on.
Meanwhile, he's one of the greatest pool players that's ever lived.
So he has all these gadgets and shit he does, but I do this impression to him.
Play it for me, because you've got to hear him talk.
That's my buddy Justin.
unidentified
How are you doing tonight?
Pool is a beautiful game played by ugly people.
Okay, first of all, how are you going to play pool if you're not properly equipped?
joe rogan
Where's your beekeepers out there?
You don't have no ass weights.
unidentified
I don't see you in waders.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
You have goggles on?
No, then get the fuck off the table.
So this is wild, dude.
You've got to listen to the guy.
adam ray
Doesn't even sound like you.
joe rogan
If that guy was famous, yeah, I could do a whole tour as him.
adam ray
Oh, my God.
That's your next chapter, dude.
joe rogan
I could do a tour of pool halls.
adam ray
Oh, my God.
Meet and greets with that guy.
joe rogan
But that's the only one I could do that good.
adam ray
Well, here's the thing.
Even that voice, I'm like, dude, that's a Kill Tony guy.
You see that guy come on?
joe rogan
Right.
This is him.
adam ray
Bro, you nailed it.
joe rogan
I know how to do his voice.
Oh, Joe.
unidentified
It's played by a bunch of ugly people.
adam ray
The Stache?
Bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a wizard.
adam ray
Now, is he so famous that a biopic is in the works if something happened?
joe rogan
They could do a biopic with Earl Strickland, and I could play Earl Strickland.
I can't play as good as Earl Strickland and not built like Earl Strickland, but I could definitely do an Earl Strickland impression.
Oh my god, dude.
He'd be so mad at me.
adam ray
You met him, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I met him.
He was happy when I met him.
I ran into him and he was like, why are you picking on me?
I'm a giant fan.
It's the only way I could do an impression of you that good.
I'm a huge fan.
And we became friendly.
But then I tried to get him on the podcast and he doesn't want to come on.
He's mad at me for something.
adam ray
Doing his voice.
joe rogan
He did a podcast saying that he turned me down.
He didn't want to do my podcast.
I'm only a fan.
I only joke it around because I think you're awesome.
adam ray
Is Poole your...
Man, how do I ask this question?
Not vice.
Number one, like, if you had the ideal day, like, a joint, a show, you know, maybe post-show for however long and you're hanging.
Obviously, I know you like your dinners and whatnot, but, like, is pool your true, like, you're in your happy place zen?
joe rogan
Well, it's just, to me, it's like a game that's also a mind cleanser.
So there's certain things...
adam ray
And the social aspect of it, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Social aspect.
Well, if you're hanging around a pool hall, for sure.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Also, it's like pool players are also obsessed with it, the way you're obsessed with it, so you can talk about stuff that you can't talk about with other people, like tip millimeter sizes and carbon fiber shafts and shit.
Nobody wants to talk about that.
But the pool players can't wait to talk about it.
So you're talking about these weird aspects, very particular aspects of this game.
But while you're doing it, when you're just trying to concentrate on running out, just trying to concentrate on putting that cue ball, perfect for the next ball, perfect for the next, you're thinking three balls ahead, You're plotting your lines, and there's no room for anything else.
There's no room for, oh, I forgot to call that guy back.
Oh, I gotta do this.
Oh, I gotta do that.
Oh, I didn't do this today.
There's no room.
While you're shooting, it's a mind cleanser.
So all the things, should I do this?
Should I do that?
All that goes away.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it just cleans your mind up because it requires all of you to make a hard shot, especially on tight pockets, a long shot on tight pockets.
It requires all of you to stay in line, have your stroking arm follow through smooth, have the proper grip on the cue where you're not gripping it too tight.
You're cradling it like a little baby bird.
Like a little baby bird in your hand.
And you're just letting that cue weight and the acceleration from your arm push through that ball.
And you want to watch that spin as it collides with the other ball and moves perfectly to the next ball.
That requires all of you.
So while you're doing that, it cleans your head out.
adam ray
Dude, Strickland, you're just making me realize, is like Bob Ross for pool.
The way that you described all that, I was like, dude, that all made sense.
You just basically broke down pool in the most beautiful way.
And it really is, there's so much finesse, there's so much strategy, there's athleticism involved.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of body control.
I wouldn't call it athleticism, but you have to have execution.
You have to be able to execute the shots.
And that requires a finesse that's learned over thousands and thousands and thousands of shots.
adam ray
I thought I was going to be a pro pool player at one point.
Really?
My mom was a single mom, four jobs, ran an assisted living homes, you know, activities.
That was one of the jobs, like bringing in, you know, our school choirs, and then just coming up with games for them.
And so I'd go there for a lot of times after school, and there was a guy that was like, I don't know, the fucking janitor?
Who knows if this guy even worked there?
But all of a sudden, I'd always be upstairs with him playing pool.
And my sister.
And, uh...
And he just, like, was so good and would, like, show us trick shots, and I got so into it.
It was one of those things you got so into for, like, three, four years, and then, I don't know, girls.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you got someone who's good that showed you how to do it right, that's huge.
adam ray
I always think back, every now, not always, but think back to, like, oh, man, what if I, like, had really made that a thing?
Because, I mean, who knows where I was, but all I know is I was playing, like, anything as a kid, right?
I was playing all the time.
To where I was like, oh man, what if that was like...
joe rogan
That would have been crazy.
If I knew you from the pool world instead of the comedy world, that would be crazy.
adam ray
I know, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But then you probably would have had this thing in your head like, I think I could do comedy.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I think I could do it.
You know, that thing that you had in your head before you ever started doing it, like that little voice.
It's like, maybe you should do comedy.
adam ray
Oh, that was me on the bus, impersonating, doing Ace Ventura scenes.
So I was a fat kid, and then I was getting teased all the time.
joe rogan
You got a glow-up.
Look at you, you handsome bastard.
Fat kid to a glow-up.
unidentified
I'm trying to take care of myself.
joe rogan
You're like the guy in It 2. Remember the fat kid in It 2 comes back buff and handsome in It 2?
You don't remember?
unidentified
I didn't see it.
joe rogan
I watched it the other day.
In It 1, the chubby kid gets cut up by the bully.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Then in It 2, now he's a stud.
He's got like a six-pack, beautiful man.
Like something happened.
adam ray
Well, yeah.
We're still working on that, but yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta glow up.
adam ray
I appreciate it.
Yeah, I was getting teased all the time, so it was Fat Kid, and then I started making friends laugh, and they were like, oh, you're the funny kid.
So then I was like, oh, this is making them laugh, which feels good, and then it's also changing the way they're looking at me, which I felt like a crazy superpower.
I mean, it was sixth grade, and I was just, you know...
I just was like, oh, I gotta chase this then.
So then it was...
But I was doing it naturally.
I wasn't going out of my way to do it.
It just came...
I'd watch Ace Ventura, and then I was like, oh, I wanna do that to a couple friends on the bus.
And now I'm telling stories.
And then I would prank call Seattle Sports Radio stations and record it on my first Sony and play it for friends on the bus.
And they'd be like...
Just seeing them laugh was fun.
Or prank call...
One of the first things I did was there was a girl in our class that everybody had a crush on.
Me too.
But she was like, You have bigger tits than me.
Why would I like you?
And so I called my buddy who she ended up dating and pretended to be her, as I called him, with other friends.
Kind of diabolical.
joe rogan
Jesus.
You could do an impression of her that's that good?
adam ray
In fourth grade, yeah.
I didn't sound like this.
joe rogan
In fourth grade, right.
That's insane, dude.
So even back then you were doing that?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
Impersonating teachers and whatnot, and then, yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
adam ray
But the chasing of it was, which is why I was telling somebody this the other day, Jim Carrey, when he came through, when he was scouting for I'm Dying Up Here at the Comedy Store, and I had never met him, and he's walking through, and Adam Eget's walking him through, and, you know, that movie was so influential on me, Jim Carrey in general, but, like, how much I was, like, you know, involving it in making people laugh.
He walks...
joe rogan
Was it a movie or was it a television show?
adam ray
Ace Ventura?
joe rogan
No, no, the comedy store thing.
adam ray
Oh, a television show on Showtime.
joe rogan
Right.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
adam ray
So he's coming through the back bar.
I think he was going to do Roast Battle.
And I'm sitting in the back bar, or the main bar of the store.
And he walks through.
And Adam's like, Hey, Adam, it's Jim Carrey.
And I go...
And Jim goes, okay, man, and keeps walking.
I was like, and Rob, the bartender, was like, dude, you fucking, what was that?
And I was like, I couldn't, I don't know.
joe rogan
Couldn't communicate.
adam ray
And then I put it all together, and I was like, oh, dude, like, I'm sure subconsciously in that moment, I was like, oh, dude, this guy, you know, whether it was all about it or not, like, me just telling you all this stuff about the movie and influencing me and giving me the confidence to, like, want to try to make people laugh.
joe rogan
He was your Jesus.
adam ray
Yeah, I mean, in a weird way.
unidentified
He just met Jesus.
adam ray
I mean, I think so, man.
unidentified
That's what it was.
adam ray
Put me on the track to trying to, and now that's my life?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm getting too heady about it.
joe rogan
No, you're not getting too heady.
No, I appreciate what you're saying.
That's exactly what it is.
Like, he is the guy that started the spark, right?
He's the guy that inspired you.
adam ray
I think so.
joe rogan
You doing impressions of him getting laughs is what got you down the road.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So you meeting him was a freakout.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
He should be used to freakouts by now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like you're fucking Jim Carrey, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I bet he gets bugged out by people that don't act normal around him.
adam ray
Sure.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
He's probably so tired of it.
adam ray
Yeah, maybe you appreciate that.
unidentified
And then Adam later was like, dude, you fucking froze in front of Jim Carrey, man.
joe rogan
That's a great Adam.
unidentified
Dude, he was right there.
adam ray
I don't know.
He's probably coming back.
You saw Santino.
unidentified
He hasn't been here in 30 years, and now he's definitely not coming back because you fucking stared at him weird.
Ha!
adam ray
I love Adam.
Shout out.
Shout out Adam Egan.
joe rogan
That's a perfect Adam Egan.
But, you know, those guys, I think that being that famous for that long is like radiation poisoning.
adam ray
I think so.
joe rogan
You know, I think you have to have a very unique constitution to live near Chernobyl.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And I think that a guy that's that famous for that long probably goes a little insane.
adam ray
Wild, yeah.
joe rogan
And he also, like, became insane, I think, when he was doing Andy Kaufman.
He became like Andy Kaufman for like a year.
adam ray
I know.
I need to be taking a...
Like, what if that happens to me with this Phil thing?
No.
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
I can separate.
You separate.
You're talking to me before you went on stage.
You weren't Phil.
You were just you.
adam ray
Can you imagine, fuck, if I was just like, Joe, you excited for tonight's show?
joe rogan
I would understand.
I'd go, yes.
Yeah, Phil, what's up?
Tell Jay I said hi.
adam ray
I should have done it.
Dude, that coat you were wearing that night, you were, I mean, it was incredible, dude.
And you looked like, with your shades and that jacket.
joe rogan
I just wanted to be ridiculous, because we're at Madison Square Garden.
I love it, dude.
adam ray
You were adding to the show.
joe rogan
To me, it felt like, this is so big, I should dress preposterous.
I feel preposterous.
adam ray
Can I ask where you get a jacket like that?
joe rogan
Nordstrom's.
Let's go!
Shout out to Nordstrom's.
Let's go!
It's not...
No animals died in the making of that jacket.
adam ray
A couple Muppets, maybe.
joe rogan
A few seals probably choked to death on the oil that spilled out.
Yeah, I mean, is that even eco-friendly when people have, like, fake fur?
I guess they think that it causes less death, but I wonder if overall it does.
I wonder if, like, what is the amount of life lost through the petrochemical production of nylon versus...
unidentified
Beaver trapping.
joe rogan
How many lives get lost because of the actual production of fake leathers and plastics and chemicals?
How many things go into the ocean?
How many things die because they get poisoned by the runoff?
Where are these things made?
adam ray
Let's ask Siri.
joe rogan
Where is this stuff made?
Is this stuff made in some third world country that doesn't have any environmental regulations and they're just dumping this waste into the river, which we know has happened?
But you feel better because you're wearing a fake fur?
I'm not sure.
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
I think we might be better off just using real fur.
adam ray
Maybe.
joe rogan
I bet we are.
Yeah, but it's just cruel.
The idea of killing an animal just for its skin is just cruel.
adam ray
Pretty wild.
joe rogan
It's wild.
But I mean, we kill them for food.
It's weird to be like, there's places that are fur-free zones now.
Okay?
Right?
adam ray
Like states?
joe rogan
Like places you can't sell furs.
I bet you could still wear them.
It is America.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
You can't sell fur.
I think you can't sell fur in parts of Los Angeles.
See if that's true.
adam ray
Sounds about right.
joe rogan
I think they put a ban on selling fur.
But you can still sell leather.
Do you know how fucking insane you are?
When you have animal skin on almost everything.
You have animal skin on the inside of your car.
You have animal skin on your shoes.
You have animal skin on your belt.
You have animal skin on your wallet.
You have animal skin everywhere.
If it's better, it's leather upholstered.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look.
Look at this beautiful leather upholstery.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's better if it has leather.
So you have animal skin everywhere.
Everywhere!
As long as there's no fuzz on it.
Fur sales are illegal in California.
In 2019, state of California became the first state to ban fur.
State's Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law AB44, which bans the sales and manufacturing of new clothing and accessories made from fur.
I get it.
I get people wanting to be kind and not kill an animal for its fur.
I totally understand where you're coming from.
But it is a little weird that we're okay with leather.
It's a little weird.
And don't ban leather, you motherfuckers.
That's not my point.
My point is, shut the fuck up and let people do whatever they want to do.
I don't think you should ban furs.
I don't want one.
I'd rather have a fake one, you know?
adam ray
What do you think about the text?
joe rogan
Just because I feel bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I mean, but I get it.
If I was living in a place where they couldn't, like, where did it all come from, right?
It came from, that was the only way to stay alive.
People wore big-ass fur coats because it protects you.
They don't wear fur coats.
The Inuits don't wear fur coats because it looks cool.
They want to stay alive.
adam ray
Yeah, it's warmth.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's all it is.
It's the best way to stay alive, especially when you're getting it from these animals that you're killing.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's literally how you get your clothes and your food.
It's from these animals.
That's the origin of it all.
Now it's like a weird thing.
Because you're wearing it to show everyone you're a baller.
You come in in a full-length mink coat.
What's up, player?
adam ray
Yeah.
unidentified
Woo!
adam ray
Like my ostrich hat.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just, you have feathers on your cap from some exotic bird that had lost its fucking life so you could look like a pimp.
And you just stroll in.
adam ray
Just to go to the Clippers game in style.
joe rogan
Wearing gold all over your hands and fingers.
adam ray
It's an alligator pussy ring.
joe rogan
Diamonds carved out of the ground by child labor, you know, and you're just glittering and shining.
adam ray
You have to walk in like that, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you've got a fur coat, you have to walk in like this.
adam ray
Even though the coat's doing the talking for you.
joe rogan
My friend Bill had one.
I put one on once.
I was like, oh my god, this thing's amazing.
We were in Aspen, and he had a mink coat.
I go, what is that?
What is that coat?
Let me try that on.
I put it on.
I was like, oh my god.
This is amazing.
It insulates you so perfectly.
adam ray
Pimps made mink coats popular?
joe rogan
I don't know who made mink coats popular, but they're popular with rich ladies.
adam ray
Rich ladies, yeah.
joe rogan
It's rich ladies.
I think pimps caught on.
Didn't Joe Namath famously wear a mink coat?
Baller shit!
adam ray
It's baller shit!
joe rogan
But back then, people didn't think twice because everybody was just trying to stay alive.
They were just trying to not starve to death.
They didn't give a fuck about those animals.
And once things got soft and sweet and people started doing way better in society, it's like you don't have to worry about starving to death.
Everyone's like, hey, why are we killing these little animals for their fur?
adam ray
Yeah, let them live.
What do you think about the taxidermy stuff?
Like the full-on people that have rooms with just...
joe rogan
I don't do that with animals I hunt because I like what's called a European mount and a European mount is the skull with the antlers on it.
Just the actual skull.
I know what it looked like.
I don't want a fake representation of it on my wall.
It's basically a doll.
First of all, the people that do it are amazing and the art of it is pretty incredible because it is an art form.
What you're doing is you're You're using this mold, right?
So you have a mold that's roughly the size of the torso of the animal that you killed.
They have a photograph of the animal that you killed.
And then they take the skin from the animal that you killed and mold it around this foam and do it so perfectly that it looks just like the animal.
They put fake eyes and they do it all up and it's got the antlers from the actual animal on it.
And they've made a fake version of this animal that you killed.
I get it.
I get it, but it's not for me.
adam ray
Right.
Also, I don't know.
I feel like I would get pretty baked in my own house and have some late night freak outs at some of these things that look super...
A buddy of mine has a full house of them.
His name's Doug.
He lives in Jersey.
But he's into it for the artistic...
He says it's beautiful.
It's got this big...
Jimmy, you don't have that thing I was going to show Joe, do you?
The little trailer?
So Joe, I made this doc called Doug about my friend who was a lifeguard when he was 21 in the 70s, jumped into a pool in Jersey to save a kid who was faking drowning.
And he ended up being paralyzed from the neck down.
And his brother Brian, who was an accountant, quit doing that.
To save his brother mentally, physically, who's in the hospital, wanted to die, was like, leave me in the pool.
I don't want to live like this.
He was a college football star, you know, going to be a lawyer.
Brian not only gets him physically fit and mentally stable, you know, to a place to where he wants to live, gets him so strong that he enters the Paralympics, ends up becoming the world champ, setting all the world records, gets on the cover of a Wheaties box, travels the world with Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Bo Jackson, speaking to people all over the world, becomes a criminal lawyer, helps get the Disability Act going.
And so I meet Brian, who's now a physical therapist to the stars in New York.
And he goes, he's telling me about his brother.
He's like, dude, you got to meet my brother Doug.
donald j trump
This guy's a fucking, he's incredible.
adam ray
Come to New Jersey and meet my brother.
You can hear him.
It's as good as your Strickland impression.
And so I go to Jersey and I see his place.
He shows me all these pictures and videos of him with the Pope and Christopher Reeve and Regis and Kathie Lee.
And I'm like, holy shit.
joe rogan
Is this doc out already?
adam ray
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
And I just, it's a one minute trailer.
joe rogan
Let's see the trailer.
Let's see the trailer.
adam ray
Thanks, brother.
So I directed it.
It's the first time.
unidentified
The Doug Ayer story.
donald j trump
From the Wheaties cereal box to the Olympics.
unidentified
It was 1978 when Doug Ayer, as a lifeguard, dove into a pool to save a drowning boy.
When I dove in, this fan kicked back and my head hit the bottom of the pool.
There's no problem.
I don't feel my legs.
I don't feel anything.
I'm screaming to the guards, come on, come on!
My life, it like ended and began right at that moment.
My brother, he goes, you're not going to get this corny arm.
He would duct tape one pound wrist weights to my hand.
They told me about wheelchair sports.
He goes out in the field, breaks the first world record, breaks the second world record, breaks the third world record.
donald j trump
We never thought we'd see that.
unidentified
Never.
Then, I got a phone call.
Soon, his picture will be pasted on three million boxes of the stuff.
donald j trump
You see my brother on the face of the weed?
So cool!
Where's it go from there, you know?
unidentified
Hold down, get dirty in life, and get back up again.
And that's the journey.
And you can't beat the parking.
Just remember that. - Dude, that's badass.
adam ray
Crazy story.
joe rogan
That's a crazy story.
adam ray
So I went out there and I was like, I at least got to film the interviews and their mom just passed with Brian Doug.
Because the story of the brother, you know, just being there for Doug is wild and inspiring.
And, I don't know, you know, having that amount of pictures and video to accompany any doc, I feel like is pretty imperative.
It was overwhelming, so I was like, I'm going to come out and at least interview you guys, and then it took a couple years to put it all together.
But it's on my YouTube channel, youtube.com slash adamraycomedy.
I tried to pitch it a few places, didn't really have enough juice, and then I was like, I'm just going to put it up, because I want them to, it should be out there.
A movie on that story, I mean, it's wild, Joe.
I'll text you a link, it's only 50 minutes.
joe rogan
So you've never did a documentary or anything like this before?
adam ray
No.
First one directed, yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
So you just got inspired because of this guy's story to put this together?
unidentified
1000%.
adam ray
I was like, I can't believe that your story is not more...
I'm like, how the fuck have I not heard about this?
And I've talked to a few people since who have been like, oh, I remember seeing something on the news about this.
Yeah, fuckin' a quick news, a 10 second whatever.
And Brian's such a character.
The brother, that's who I was doing the voice of.
joe rogan
That's a great impression.
That is right.
It might be better than my earth trickle.
adam ray
Easy.
But Brian now, that's his life now.
So that's also crazy.
He dedicated his life to helping his brother and now he is to the stars in New York and whoever else.
I mean, he'll be on a...
I flew him to Vegas once when I had a major back thing and three days of aggressive stretching and fucking fixed me and on the plane he's like, there's a woman next to me and her shoulder was fucking fucked up and I fixed the shoulder!
unidentified
She wasn't able to do that for fucking 40 years!
adam ray
Now she can!
And he kept telling me about Doug, and I was like...
joe rogan
What did he do to her shoulder that let her...
adam ray
I don't know.
Just fucking licked it or something.
I don't know.
He did a little...
Release?
joe rogan
Some kind of manual release guy?
adam ray
There's a name for the type of physical therapist he is, but he says that in case people don't understand, but he's a wizard, man.
And he...
Yeah, so I was like, I need to do this.
joe rogan
Does he do rolfing?
Is it that kind of stuff?
adam ray
What's that?
joe rogan
That's that really painful kind of soft tissue manipulation.
You ever had it done?
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
It's brutal, man.
adam ray
Oh, really?
I mean, that's why I say aggressive stretching.
It's really...
But he just...
A lot of unlocking things.
But there's days when I've seen him...
I stuck around New York an extra day to get worked on and, you know, I get just from flying and carrying a lot of shit here, my quads get real tight all the time and so, you know, I'm just not stretching enough, which I know I got to, but, you know, he's like, I could use two more days with you to, like, really get you, you know.
joe rogan
Loosen you up.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of stretching lately because I had done a lot of like, especially getting ready for the special, I was working out a lot also to calm my mind.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I might have overdid it a little bit.
adam ray
How so?
joe rogan
I just was sore, man.
My back was sore.
adam ray
You could feel it on stage as you were moving around?
joe rogan
And I decided on Saturday, no, not on stage, just mostly like when I wake up in the morning, I'm going a little too hard here.
Right.
But what it really was was I wasn't stretching enough.
And everything was just tight because I was doing a lot of like kettlebell shit, and it was just tight.
And I spent like two and a half hours on Saturday just stretching in my hotel room.
Just stretching.
That's all I did.
I just watched some YouTube videos and stretched.
And I felt a hundred percent better.
Yeah, of course you did.
And I was like, oh, you fucking idiot.
You should be doing this all the time.
I know.
I need to do long, stretch sessions like that all the time.
adam ray
That's patience, man.
Two and a half hours?
joe rogan
Yeah, just watch YouTube.
Just put your phone down and watch some fucking documentary.
adam ray
You have no excuse to not.
joe rogan
I know.
adam ray
I tell my sis that now, too, when she's like, I need to find more time to exercise in this.
And I'm like, dude, you watch shows already after work.
Just for even 20 minutes, walk around and just space out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's also if you want to exercise, like get on some kind of a cardio machine and watch a movie on an iPad.
It's a cheat code.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a cheat code.
adam ray
It's how I watch anything is on the bike.
joe rogan
But it's the best way to distract yourself from the fact that you're exhausted.
unidentified
Totally.
joe rogan
If you watch a good movie with headphones on and an iPad on like a stationary bike.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can enjoy the movie.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You actually can enjoy the movie and actually put in some serious cardio.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you'll be distracted.
So you won't be thinking about the fact that you're exhausted on the bike.
You'll be thinking about, oh my God, don't go in the basement.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I can't fucking believe this.
This movie is insane.
This fucking movie is insane.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Especially a good thriller, you know?
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
It keeps you engaged.
What's your go-to workout movie?
Can you not watch?
Are you a re-watcher?
joe rogan
Yes.
John Wick.
John Wick's the greatest ever workout movie.
adam ray
Whoa!
joe rogan
Ever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
adam ray
I have a confession.
Haven't seen it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
It's like a girl saying she hasn't seen Barbie.
adam ray
Put it up, Jamie.
joe rogan
It's like a girl saying she hasn't seen Barbie, really.
adam ray
Right.
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's the most insanely violent movie of all time.
It's so insane.
It's Keanu, right?
Yeah, it's so Keanu.
It's so ridiculous.
unidentified
And they've made 15. They've made four of them, I think.
joe rogan
Four?
Right, yeah.
adam ray
I remember hearing this last one.
It was the talk of the town.
People were like...
joe rogan
It's a fun movie.
But it's a really good movie to work out to because it's just so crazy.
adam ray
Cool.
joe rogan
Because so many people are getting killed.
You're just like...
adam ray
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You get in those extra reps.
You're watching people engage.
adam ray
You get fired up from it.
joe rogan
Mortal Kombat.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
Wow, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a crazy movie.
adam ray
Mortal Kombat.
unidentified
It's fun.
adam ray
Remember when that became a game?
Oh, yeah.
Dude, I understood why my mom was like, you can't play video games.
Because I remember sitting downstairs...
I had my bar mitzvah.
She goes, I'm not buying you a video game system, but you can use some of your Jew money to buy.
She didn't say that.
She goes, you can buy some of your money from gifts to buy.
And so I bought a Super Nintendo.
And then I got, I think, a Sega.
And then Mortal Kombat.
Or my buddy had a Sega.
And we played Mortal Kombat.
And I remember just being like, what is happening right now?
We went from Street Fighter, which is throwing harukets and whatnot, and then just ripping a guy's cock off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, you could kill people.
adam ray
Finish him.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You pull their fucking skull out with their spine attached to it.
adam ray
Pretty cool.
And then just go have it fucking Crustable right after.
joe rogan
And it's very addictive.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
All those games are very addictive.
adam ray
Were you ever a gamer?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
adam ray
What was your...
joe rogan
Quake.
But it's just because they're fun.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like they're not addictive because they suck.
They're awesome.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
They're just too awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like playing Quake is too awesome.
It's crazy fast-paced.
You're shooting rockets at people.
They're electrocuting you to death.
Yeah.
It's nuts.
It's such an adrenaline rush that you just don't want to stop.
You just want to go to the next game, go to the next game, keep playing, keep playing.
Next thing you know, you're exhausted, you're dehydrated, you haven't had any food in eight hours.
What's wrong with you?
And then you have to go to bed.
What the fuck is wrong with me?
adam ray
Why am I still awake?
joe rogan
This is crazy.
adam ray
I've only played...
Halo a handful of times.
My younger brother is pretty obsessed, but he's really good.
And I played it online and I was real high.
So I started to kind of get emotionally invested to where like, I'd see guys getting shot and I was like, fuck, I can't.
My heart was beating so fast.
It was too much.
Probably if I was sober, I would have been less.
joe rogan
You lost a comrade.
You felt real connected to it.
adam ray
I was about fucked up.
joe rogan
Well, they have virtual reality ones now.
My friend Matt Serra, he plays these virtual reality...
adam ray
With the goggles?
joe rogan
What's the one that Matt plays?
What is the game he plays?
That he's...
Population 1. Population 1. So it's a VR shooter.
So he's running around with VR goggles on.
So he really feels like he's in the game.
And he's like, get down!
They're shooting at each other and shit.
It's nuts!
adam ray
Oh my god.
joe rogan
He's got goggles on.
He's like in his fucking house.
Just moving around.
adam ray
Give me that security footage.
joe rogan
So you feel like you're in a war.
Like you're so immersed in it.
This video game is now a whole next level experience.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because just in front of the computer is pretty involving.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get the headphones on, especially with these computer games now have 3D sound, so you hear sound coming from there.
You know, there's guys over there!
You know, you run towards them.
adam ray
You smack your wife, yeah.
I mean, yeah, that's...
joe rogan
Well, that's another thing about these goddamn games.
You could beat the shit out of people.
Like, there's a lot of, like, what is it?
Red Dead?
adam ray
Red Dead Redemption, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, where you, like, take someone and fucking tie a noose to their neck and drag them behind your horse.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Do wild shit.
You could drown a prostitute in the river.
You could do wild shit.
And people are like, hey, maybe you shouldn't be able to do this in a fucking game.
This is a little crazy.
adam ray
Your seven-year-old shouldn't be able to see that that's possible yet.
joe rogan
Shouldn't be able to beat a prostitute with a shovel.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what are you doing?
adam ray
Maybe a super soaker.
Just hit her in the face or something.
Yeah, something lighter.
joe rogan
Well, it's just the whole game is chaos.
I know.
But you could do chaos to anybody.
Just like Grand Theft Auto.
You could do chaos to anybody.
adam ray
First time playing that, though, and driving down Sunset and seeing the comedy store was pretty cool.
joe rogan
I think Grand Theft Auto, I think I've read this, they were comparing the amount of money that Grand Theft Auto has generated versus almost any other movie, game, in comparison to how it does to big Hollywood blockbusters.
How much money has Grand Theft Auto generated?
I mean, that has got to be one of the most popular games of all time.
adam ray
A thousand percent.
That may be...
joe rogan
It's about stealing cars.
jamie vernon
Over $8.5 billion.
adam ray
Yo.
Good call, dude.
We'll be right back.
That's a fucking...
Holy shit, dude.
That's so much money.
joe rogan
That's so much money.
adam ray
Joe, that's wild.
Thanks for pulling that stat up.
unidentified
Now, do you think you deserve that amount of money?
adam ray
What have you done other than show teenagers it's possible to beat, steal, and rob from a hooker?
Hold that thought.
We'll be right back.
joe rogan
Do you remember the guy who used to run bum fights?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And he came on Dr. Phil as Dr. Phil.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
He shaved his head, the top of his head.
adam ray
Joe, that's what we could do.
You want to come on the Dr. Phil live show and be that guy.
All we got to do is throw a stash on you.
joe rogan
That guy, he fucking...
adam ray
Phil goes, what are you doing?
And he goes, what?
What?
He goes, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
And he's like, I'm doing what you're doing.
I'm exploiting people.
He's like, I don't like it.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
There's Robin...
Dude just kicked him off his set.
joe rogan
But it was weird, right?
You knew that's what he did.
adam ray
Of course.
joe rogan
And you invited him on the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He probably just didn't like that path of the argument.
That path is a legitimate path.
adam ray
Do you think he knew?
Maybe he didn't know he was going to get into full makeup.
Because I'm sure Phil's not visiting the guest, right?
joe rogan
Listen.
This is not a surprise.
unidentified
If you think...
If you think I exploit people, every time you bring a guest on this show, you exploit them and spread whatever problems they have to the whole world.
You think that's helping them?
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
You can go.
You know what?
Who do you think you are, huh?
Bye.
Come on.
Huh?
No, I'm not finished talking to you.
Yeah, you are.
No, I'm not.
Yeah, you are.
adam ray
Yeah, you're done.
Don't even grab a complimentary Dr. Phil hat.
Just go.
I hate me right now.
I mean, this guy, yeah.
joe rogan
The thing about that guy, though, is that guy, that bum fights thing was crazy.
adam ray
It was wild.
joe rogan
That guy paid people to pull their teeth out.
Yeah.
There was some awful, awful shit.
adam ray
Yeah, you want to talk about using YouTube for the wrong reason.
joe rogan
Well, it wasn't YouTube.
adam ray
It wasn't?
joe rogan
No, these were cassettes.
It was like VHSs.
adam ray
Maybe my first taste of Bum Fights were.
joe rogan
What was Bum Fights originally released on?
I don't believe it was YouTube.
I think it was pre-YouTube.
jamie vernon
Yeah, no, it was sold for $22 a piece.
adam ray
So Bum Fights, so people were either...
jamie vernon
DVDs, I guess.
adam ray
Was Bum Fights for people that couldn't get Girls Gone Wild?
Like, because those were both probably popping off.
joe rogan
Basically what Bum Fights was, was a lot of shit that you see already on the internet.
How many bum fights have you actually seen on the internet?
I've seen so many guys that are like on heroin fistfight in the streets of Los Angeles.
There's a shitload of videos of bums duking it out.
Their pants fall down, guy gets kicked in the head, knocked unconscious.
There's a lot of that.
That you can find.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I get sent it all the time by Tom Segura.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he sends me...
adam ray
Just cell phone footage?
joe rogan
No, the Instagram reels.
unidentified
Oh, gotcha.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, terrible things that you can see people just doing to each other all over there.
So the thing is, like, this guy made a living off of it, though.
And he was, like, selling these DVDs.
And I think...
We didn't want to admit that people want to see that, just like we don't want to admit people want to drown hookers in Red Dead Redemption, but they do.
adam ray
They do, man.
joe rogan
They do want to see that.
If you let people slap each other in the face on television, people will tune in.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
If you let people dress up like fucking medieval knights and sword fight, people will watch.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is 100% a fact.
Yeah.
Back then, we didn't want to believe that.
And there was no internet.
So we didn't really understand our nature until the internet came along.
adam ray
Dude, think about two girls, one cup.
joe rogan
Think about porn.
Think about the amount of porn that gets digested by the average American male versus that of 1950. There's a huge difference.
Guys were jerking off to underwear ads.
Guys were starving for things to jerk off to.
Yeah, they were jerking off to memory.
They had no idea.
adam ray
We had a lot of solid imaginations probably in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
unidentified
That's all you needed back then.
joe rogan
That's a good idea in your head.
That's all you had.
That's all you had.
And then now everyone has a phone, and anyone's phone can connect to a plethora of porn sites.
adam ray
I had a guy on my flight about three months ago, no joke, porn on the phone, no headphones.
Jesus heard like heard oh fuck my butt and then was just kind of like Like and then saw saw this, you know people kind of like turning people no one one to citizens arrest this guy So everyone was kind of like he probably was doing it to make people uncomfortable for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah Because what is the law?
adam ray
And it was wild.
I mean, I was two rows behind him.
joe rogan
Are you allowed to do that?
Like, what's the law?
I think it's probably illegal, but...
Right, that's what I'm saying.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you shouldn't be looking at his...
But if you can hear it.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what is the law, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because, like, what if you're playing a podcast that's offensive?
What if you're playing a podcast on your phone that makes me upset, but you're playing it?
I have to listen to it.
I'm getting upset.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
What is the law on that?
adam ray
Right.
joe rogan
I feel like you're allowed to do that, right?
So...
If you're allowed to say, like, fuck that guy and fuck this, but you can't say fuck my butt, it gets a little weird.
It gets a little weird.
It's his phone.
Why are you even looking at what's on his phone?
You shouldn't be a fucking...
adam ray
You're two rows back.
Put your headphones on.
joe rogan
How about stop paying attention to his phone?
But also...
Why does he have porn on his phone and it's loud?
adam ray
Is it almost like urinating in a public decency thing?
jamie vernon
It's just like that according to the law that I'm looking up.
adam ray
You can't pee in public or watch someone talk about peeing.
joe rogan
Right, but can you listen?
That's what I'm saying.
What is the law in listening to it?
adam ray
Are you a peeping Tom if you're listening?
Defendant convicted of watching porn in a parking lot fails in constitutional challenge to public obscenity law.
joe rogan
Watching pornography in public serves no legitimate purposes unless you want to fucking jizz like a racehorse.
adam ray
You're trying to get first class to turn things up a notch.
joe rogan
Doing so with one's window down and at a restaurant's busy parking lot in full view of families recklessly exposed pornography to young children.
Oh, well this is a little different.
This is like a business and he got in there with his window rolled down and he's beaten off.
He might be a little bit of a freak.
But it depends on, like, was he in the corner of the parking lot away from everybody?
Yeah.
Was he by himself?
He's like, I just gotta rub this out.
I gotta make a decision.
Right now I'm real confused.
You know, it could have been like a mental health thing.
unidentified
You know?
Totally.
joe rogan
Like, look, I'm losing my mind here.
jamie vernon
This thing says that public libraries can't block porn, and it's not illegal to watch it.
adam ray
Wow!
No way!
jamie vernon
That's just what this says.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
adam ray
Look at libraries staying cool and hip.
joe rogan
If that's true, how many people are jerking off in San Francisco in a library right now?
adam ray
Oh, I don't know.
A thousand percent of the people attending the library?
joe rogan
Hundreds.
adam ray
Hundreds, yeah.
jamie vernon
I would certainly recommend against doing this, one lawyer says.
joe rogan
But he said Missouri.
Scroll back up.
It said under Missouri statutes.
Depending on the exact circumstances, the prosecutor could file at least two different charges.
But this is Missouri.
jamie vernon
Every state's different with that, too.
joe rogan
Right, but wasn't the article about San Francisco?
Or any public library?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is just public library.
joe rogan
Oh, it's any public library.
Oh, my God.
Anywhere?
jamie vernon
I almost got arrested for taking photos, mooning a camera when we were like 21 or something.
joe rogan
Yo, that's how crazy San Francisco is.
He didn't even say San Francisco.
I assumed.
adam ray
Wow.
joe rogan
I just assumed, right?
We didn't even bring...
In my head, I'm like, it has to be San Francisco.
That's so crazy.
That's how crazy San Francisco's gotten, where a story comes up, and it's almost like the Bernstein Bears.
What's that called?
Yeah.
The Bernstein...
jamie vernon
The Mandela Effect.
joe rogan
The Mandela Effect, yeah.
adam ray
The Bernstein Bear Effect?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's the Mandela effect because people thought that Mandela died in jail, but he didn't.
And so there's this thing where people have a whole narrative in their head.
It's like a glitch in the Matrix type thing.
I think that might apply to this because instantly I was like, oh, it happened in San Francisco.
I would have told the story.
In my head, I would have gone on, did you hear what happened in San Francisco?
adam ray
That's crazy.
joe rogan
You can watch pornography in the fucking library.
Meanwhile, it's every library.
Every library.
adam ray
Is that one person making that?
jamie vernon
The guy in the parking lot was in New Jersey.
joe rogan
Of course he is.
If you had to guess, what state's going to produce the most parking lot jerkers?
New Jersey is on the top of the list.
adam ray
Did you hear that story about the guy?
It was maybe a few years ago.
It might have actually been during COVID when everyone was doing big work zooms.
They were doing what?
Work zooms.
Work zooms.
And he stayed on.
He didn't turn his computer or sound off.
It was one of those things where you log on for the Zoom.
You know, the boss is like, all right, guys, everyone's here, blah, blah, blah.
And then you can just turn your screen off, but he didn't turn his off.
Dude, one guy?
joe rogan
There's fucking hundreds of guys got caught.
I have a bit about it.
Hundreds of guys got caught doing that.
That was that Jeffrey Toobin guy, the CNN guy.
adam ray
Yeah, that's, I guess, a famous one.
joe rogan
But it was like a lot of guys.
adam ray
That's a wrap, right?
You're fired.
joe rogan
He's back.
The tubing guy's back.
adam ray
But let's say it was like a Jamba Juice conference and you're on Zoom and you get like...
jamie vernon
Yeah, likely it's a wrap.
adam ray
It's a wrap.
joe rogan
But if you're a rapper, no big deal at all.
Whoops, I didn't know the camera was on, sorry.
adam ray
Sorry, yeah.
unidentified
Sorry, y'all.
adam ray
Also, you're welcome for getting to see some beautiful...
joe rogan
I don't think no one tells you you're welcome if you're getting caught doing that.
But it's one of those things where it's just like...
jamie vernon
Here's an article from the UK where it says it's debatable whether porn use is even illegal.
joe rogan
It should be.
The best hope for prosecution currently looks to be an offense against public decency, but what an archaic notion that sounds now.
Isn't that weird?
When was this written?
If the government wants to retrieve any credibility from this debacle, it could order a legal review.
Can old laws be repurposed or is new legislation required?
That's interesting because like when all these laws are put in place, they probably never anticipated porn on the internet.
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
Especially the way it is now.
adam ray
Great point.
joe rogan
You know, we talk about businesses that never got bailed out.
Oh, yeah.
Imagine if I told you there was a business, and this business is going to eat up about 30 plus percent of all the internet traffic.
And this business is used by some ungodly percentage of men, way more than it takes to elect a president, right?
What does it take to elect a president?
51 percent.
Way more than 51 percent guys have used pornography.
But yet, when that business stopped making money because DVD sales went away, nobody talked about a bailout of the porn.
Just shut the fuck up.
Bail out banks or bail out this business and that business and, you know, too big to fail, but not the porn business.
Everybody's like, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Is it still real?
I don't even know they were making porn anymore.
I mean, I don't even watch it.
adam ray
Did you see the Ashley Madison duck?
joe rogan
What is that?
adam ray
Ashley Madison was...
joe rogan
Oh, is that the dating site?
adam ray
Yeah, the site where people could have affairs.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
adam ray
Joe, it is a wild...
It's...
joe rogan
Oh, they got doxxed, right?
Didn't something happen?
adam ray
Yeah, they got hacked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam ray
And so basically, people signed up to have a...
joe rogan
Wild folk.
Just a whole website full of wild folk.
adam ray
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Just a bunch of risk takers.
Just a bunch of people.
adam ray
Just a lot of people doubling down.
joe rogan
Yeah, running away from their husband.
adam ray
Hit me on 20s.
joe rogan
Two o'clock in the afternoon.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking wild folk.
adam ray
Meet me at the subway.
Yeah, next to the KFC. Let's get wild.
Wear that Mike Pence mask.
joe rogan
Maybe that guy was in the parking lot getting ready for one of them.
adam ray
It was wild, dude.
Warming up.
Yeah.
And then they interviewed a couple couples that were all about...
that were doing it together.
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
Swingers?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Swingers are weird.
They have a missing fuse.
It's like there's something in them that's different.
adam ray
I met a few swingers through Brad Williams.
Of course.
Because swingers and little people know each other.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
adam ray
There's a direct...
Yeah, there's a...
joe rogan
Interesting.
adam ray
Yeah, they have the same...
joe rogan
Agents?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
I met my first through Brad.
Porn stars, swingers, and other little people through Brad.
And comedians.
But these swingers were wild, dude.
I'm coming from a small town in North Seattle.
I didn't even know...
It's not somebody that's just in my zeitgeist I'd never met, and so just talking to them so normally was just wild.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I did these gigs in...
God, I can't remember what state it was.
Somewhere in the south.
It might have been Nashville.
So I did this gig with Ari, and we had this guy drive us He picks us up at the airport, takes us to the hotel, and then he's driving us to the gig, and everything's normal.
And then eventually, at the end of the weekend, he's driving us to the airport.
And when the guy's driving us to the airport, he opens up about his swinger life out of nowhere.
He's like, you guys ever swing?
We have a swinging club in town.
And we're like, swing?
Like, what do you mean?
He's like, you know, like we wife swap and the like.
He goes, I've been doing it for a while.
I go, you like swinging?
He goes, well, yeah, I love it.
Yeah, we swing.
You know, my wife fucks with her.
I get to decide, though.
You know, like if he's too good looking or he's too buff, I get to decide.
I don't like that guy.
She can't fuck that guy.
And they make, like, decisions like that.
adam ray
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
And this guy just opened up to us out of nowhere, by the way.
adam ray
What preceded that conversation?
unidentified
Nothing.
joe rogan
Nothing.
Like fucking zero.
adam ray
It's hot today, huh?
unidentified
Speaking of hot.
joe rogan
I like swinging.
You guys like swinging?
Like what?
Out of nowhere, this dude's just chatting it up about the guys he lets his wife fuck.
It was crazy.
adam ray
That's wild.
joe rogan
But he was one of them dudes that like had a ponytail, but it was also bald.
Like the whole thing was a mess.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
It was chaos.
He was a human, just example.
adam ray
If you bring up swinging unprovoked, you have a ponytail.
joe rogan
He was a bizarre character.
But it was just...
I've only met a few groups of people that are really into that.
And one of them was in...
I was doing the improv in Tampa.
adam ray
I did that once.
joe rogan
Fun gig.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fun gig.
adam ray
Big room.
joe rogan
And then this foursome of people were like, we're swingers.
We have a swinger convention.
I'm like, get the fuck out of here with this thing.
They look like people that would be swingers.
Just a mess.
Just a mess.
Tampa is the swinger capital of the US. That's it.
adam ray
No joke, I had a guy come up to me and propositioned me in Kansas City to...
This is when I was featuring for Harland at the Kansas City Improv.
And he goes, man, it's funny.
He's like, you want to fuck my wife?
And I was like, whoa.
Had it ever been proposed like that.
Then she comes over, what are you guys talking about?
I go, oh, he's trying to say he wants us to do something.
And he, whatever.
She goes, what the fuck?
Had no clue that that was even...
I was like, oh, he said...
And then it was just super weird.
She's like...
Daryl, what the fuck?
Why would you, like, I'm crazy, but what the fuck?
I would never do that.
And I'm like, oh, this guy must just be going around doing that.
joe rogan
Oh, that's his thrill.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
He wants someone to fuck his wife.
adam ray
Or maybe he wanted me to say yeah, and then, like, beat you up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Could be.
Could be a trap.
adam ray
It was fucking wild.
joe rogan
Could be sent in a trap.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who knows?
Who knows?
But it's just...
That's a weird culture.
But, you know, whatever.
Not hurting anybody.
adam ray
Dude, exactly.
joe rogan
Go fuck each other.
adam ray
They have clubs where they go and there's like a house filled with people fucking each other.
One of my friends, maybe it was Callan, Told me he got- Went to a little bang-bang party?
joe rogan
It was like in the 90s or something like that.
adam ray
Of course it was.
joe rogan
Told me that he went to one of those and walked in and people were fucking all over the place.
adam ray
Those are things where you like drop your keys in the bowl or you put your phone like- No, that's like a party that they would like throw their keys in the bowl and then the guy would reach in and pull out one of the women's keys.
joe rogan
The woman would reach in and pull out one of the guys keys and you figured out who you're going home with.
adam ray
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And they just swap.
Swap wives.
adam ray
Dude.
I mean, then that became a show.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was that a wife swapping with the show?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Of course it was.
I wonder if it's real, though.
You know, those shows, they fuck around a lot with those shows.
They manipulate reality.
jamie vernon
I remembered and found this recently.
It's a commercial from Ohio, where I'm from.
joe rogan
Sun Bubble Hot Tubs.
jamie vernon
A hot tub place.
joe rogan
Oh, rent a private room.
adam ray
Jamie, I love you for pulling this up.
We had one in Seattle called Tubbs.
jamie vernon
Bring your kids?
adam ray
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
Kids are swimming in fucking baked jizz.
That's egg drop soup in there.
jamie vernon
20 bucks an hour or something wild.
joe rogan
Oh, that's crazy.
But that's like couples.
That's a very different thing.
adam ray
Bro, we had a place like this.
We had Tubbs near a comedy club near Giggles.
Do you ever play Giggles in Seattle?
No, I never did Giggles in Seattle.
joe rogan
I did Giggles in Saugus, Massachusetts.
adam ray
Okay, cool.
It was the one comedy club, I guess, in the 90s that was thriving near the University of Washington.
And they had a place called Tubbs there.
But we also have a place called Tubbs Subs, a sandwich place.
So that's all I know about.
I'm a little fat kid thinking about sandwiches.
And my friend's dad would leave soccer practice.
I'd scored on my own team.
He called me a fucking idiot.
That was a wrap for me in soccer.
And so we're driving by, and he's like, and I see Tubbs.
I'm like, oh, Tubbs!
I'm like, we should stop and get some food, you know?
We just lost.
I scored on my own team.
Some sandwiches sounds good.
And he's like, oh, that's not...
They don't do sandwiches there.
It was just the same name.
And I was like, oh, what happens there?
He's like, people rent hot tubs, and they go in there and just kind of hang out.
I was like, I had no clue.
What do you mean hang out?
He's like, well, they go in there, you meet somebody, you bring them in, you have some fun.
No clue.
And then like, you know, 10 years later, I'm like, oh, people just go in there just to fuck.
Like you said, just...
joe rogan
In a hot tub.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's probably better than a hotel room.
adam ray
For sure!
And it's a hot tub.
Who doesn't love a hot tub?
joe rogan
Yeah, people just want to go and bang it out.
Or maybe on a date and you get a wild hair, you want to go to a hot tub room?
adam ray
How do you feel about hotel hot tubs?
When you're on the road...
Yeah, thank you.
joe rogan
What are the odds?
That's clean.
That's dangerous.
adam ray
I know, dude.
That's literally...
joe rogan
You know a guy got Legionnaire's disease from a hot tub in LA? What is that disease?
Oh, it's like a disease that's like archaic.
It's like one of those old world diseases that's not supposed to be around anymore.
And this guy got it from a fucking hot tub.
See if you can find that article.
I'm pretty sure it was California that it happened.
adam ray
Yeah, they never cleaned those things.
joe rogan
My memory's a little foggy on where it was.
But maybe I'm thinking everything crazy is in California today.
You know?
I assume that other story was from San Francisco.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But this guy, he got in a stanky-ass hot tub, and he got Legionnaire's disease and fucking died.
adam ray
You can die from it?
joe rogan
Bro, he died.
Yeah, he died.
Do you have it?
Because if not, I saved the article.
I definitely saved it on my phone because I was like, this is the craziest fucking story of all time.
adam ray
Just going to relax.
joe rogan
So, this is in 2023. California spas believed to be the source of an outbreak of Legionnaire's disease.
adam ray
Oh, God.
joe rogan
That caused the illness of multiple people and the deaths of two.
Contra Costa Health announced Monday it has been investigating Zen Day Spa in Contra Costa, California since August.
How about you step in?
How about don't investigate?
Just fucking test the water.
That's so crazy.
adam ray
Wow, one dead, 11 sick in a Legionnaire's Disease outbreak in Napa.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
It's a hot tub disease.
adam ray
Yeah, that's gotta be a rapper.
joe rogan
A man who died of Legionnaire's disease from Bay Area Spa was celebrating his birthday.
adam ray
Oh, God, dude!
A hot tub birthday gone wrong.
unidentified
Sigh.
joe rogan
It's your birthday.
I want to take you to the hot...
He had a Groupon.
Oh my god.
So did all the other people that jizzed in that pond.
That's what's so disgusting.
It's probably just a combination of jizz meets shit.
It just becomes this monster virus that kills people that are trying to celebrate their birthday.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, bring your kids.
Bring your kids to the spa.
Catch Legionnaire's disease.
What is that?
jamie vernon
I wouldn't have a health permit.
joe rogan
Oh, why should they?
It's only a spa where you're naked in a tub of water.
Why would they have a health permit?
Why would they even check?
adam ray
Yeah, a hot tub is a wild invention.
I mean, even a public hot tub is just such a wild idea.
Like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
Water that gets hot like that is so perfect for bacteria.
It's so wonderful.
If you don't have the right amount of poison in there, which is what it is, when you're pouring chlorine in there, you're just killing everything that's alive.
jamie vernon
Severe pneumonia.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
It's a severe form of pneumonia, lung inflammation, usually caused by infection.
It's caused by a bacterium known as Legionnaire.
Why did they name it Legionnaire's disease?
Let's Google that.
Because it sounds like some shit that happened in the old world.
adam ray
It does.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of diseases that are starting to emerge in the homeless community in Los Angeles that are ancient diseases.
adam ray
No shit from what?
joe rogan
I think they got typhus.
Just from being disgusting.
The American Legion State Convention in Philadelphia.
What?
Okay, it's commonly known as Legionellosis, which is a generic term for respiratory infection caused by the Legionella bacteria.
This disease is named after a deadly outbreak of pneumonia in 1976 that occurred during people attending the American Legion's state convention in Philadelphia.
adam ray
Legionella sounds like Coachella for people that have swallowed a lot of hot tub cum.
joe rogan
So that's why they named it Legionnaire's disease?
Because it happened during that, that was the outbreak?
adam ray
Oh man.
joe rogan
Wow.
Wow.
adam ray
Yeah, no thanks.
joe rogan
What is the American Legion?
What's that?
What's the convention of the American Legion?
Do you know what that is?
adam ray
Led to the name of the Legionnaires disease.
No clue.
Right.
joe rogan
But what is the American Legion?
The Veterans Association.
Wartime veterans.
Oh my god.
adam ray
Aimed advocating patriotism.
joe rogan
So they're wartime veterans and they die from a fucking disease and then they name it after the Legion.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Which is like really bad for business.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're really bad for business.
They shouldn't have done that to them.
Don't call it Legionnaire's Disease.
Don't name it after us, you fucking assholes.
Call it some fucking weird Latin name and come up with some spooky monkey pox type definition.
Don't call it...
Don't name it after us.
Imagine somebody caught pneumonia and they called it mothershipitis.
And they got people dying from mothershipitis.
Like, hey, you fuckheads.
adam ray
Yeah, you'd be pissed.
joe rogan
Don't do that.
It just happened to be there.
It's not the Legionnaires.
It's not the Legion Center that was the problem.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
They didn't do anything wrong.
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
But they probably had some dudes that were coming back from Thailand, you know what I'm saying?
adam ray
1000%.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
adam ray
Where does herpes get his name?
joe rogan
Old dudes that come back from Thailand.
adam ray
Oh yeah, with everything.
joe rogan
They go over there for like four months of the year, come back looking like, who knows?
Who knows?
Who knows?
You're looking around real quick.
There was a meme that I saw today of this older man.
He's in his 60s.
And he's holding hands with two hot Asian girls.
And he was saying something about, like, when I cash my VA check and I disappear, don't worry about me.
unidentified
Cool.
joe rogan
Because I'll be in some strange country where there's rampant sex trafficking.
adam ray
Oh my god, I know, right?
By the way, I thought you were going to bring up the 91-year-old who just died and who was married to a 42-year-old.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
adam ray
91-year-old billionaire I just saw today that died.
joe rogan
Well, it's true love.
That's what's important.
She's probably hot as fuck.
She's probably super, super hot as fuck.
adam ray
She was way into him.
joe rogan
Let's see what he and she looked like.
adam ray
He had a great personality.
joe rogan
That gives me hope for the future.
If everything goes sideways, you know, like, you should be, men should be happy because that's even possible that you can trick.
adam ray
There you go.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Totally looks like they would love each other in real life.
adam ray
Looks like Mr. Bean's dad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She looks like she should be married to a farmer.
Some big old buff farmer.
adam ray
How does she even meet this, well, I mean, I guess, yeah.
joe rogan
Probably some billionaire dating site.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
He gained fame through high-profile dates.
Just weeks after marrying his sixth wife, she died.
Yeah, she got a pillow over that dude.
adam ray
You think?
joe rogan
No.
adam ray
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No.
But if you're a woman and, you know, you're 40 and this guy's nice and he's worth fucking $30 billion you want to marry, you're like, let's go.
adam ray
Let's go.
joe rogan
Let's fucking go.
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
I can deal with you.
Maybe she likes him.
Maybe she even likes him.
Maybe she also likes being super fucking rich.
adam ray
Totally.
joe rogan
Why not?
adam ray
She might like that a little bit more.
joe rogan
Yeah, like people were always about, remember Anna Nicole Smith?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
J. Howard Marshall?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
And people were like, they knew what it was, but guess what?
He knew what it was too.
adam ray
Totally.
He was having a good time.
joe rogan
It was caused by a tough bike workout.
Oh, wow.
He was rushed to the hospital with crippling back pain.
It was a ruptured heart valve.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He blew his heart out.
Probably thinking about fucking her.
adam ray
1000%.
Yeah, he was like, oh yeah.
joe rogan
I'm gonna give it to her tonight.
49 year age difference.
So what?
Let it go.
Ooh, look at that one right there.
Is that her?
Oh, the previous one?
Damn, let me see that one.
That one's even more preposterous.
No, scroll up so I can see.
adam ray
Oh, this guy's been doing it forever.
joe rogan
That's the most preposterous one.
That's perfect.
That's what I like to see.
adam ray
It does give me hope.
joe rogan
I like to see that.
Yeah, because you can be disgusting.
adam ray
Also, it gives me hope that it, like, I don't know how old he was, 80, 90, but like...
joe rogan
Bam!
That's what I'm talking about.
Wow.
adam ray
Even Betty White, before she passed, was saying how she was like, I think at 99 maybe, there was some article I read, and she was just talking about, like, still banging it out.
unidentified
Wow.
adam ray
Yeah, dude.
Wild.
joe rogan
Those old ladies don't give a fuck.
adam ray
Oh, no.
joe rogan
They're not worried about your approval anymore.
adam ray
Dude, that's...
joe rogan
She'll tell you who she fucked.
Was that guy who owns the Raiders?
He's got like a really hot 24-year-old girlfriend.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He's got that crazy Moe haircut.
adam ray
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
That guy's a character.
adam ray
He truly looks like a Nickelodeon cartoon character.
joe rogan
Is he having a baby?
Is that what's going on?
adam ray
I don't know.
And Bill Belichick's got a young girl.
I mean, Pacino's got...
Fuck, dude.
Pacino's a dad at 92 or whatever.
joe rogan
Sounds normal.
Sounds totally normal.
Seems like it's going to work out.
unidentified
What?
adam ray
It's so, yeah.
joe rogan
I think Pacino wanted to take a paternity test too to make sure it was his.
adam ray
He's like, what?
joe rogan
I'm shooting live rounds?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
At fucking 90 years old?
adam ray
That's wild.
joe rogan
How is that possible?
adam ray
Yeah, it can't be.
But it is.
joe rogan
Yep.
That's the crazy thing about men.
Men can keep having babies when they're geriatrics, but women, like nature says, that's a wrap.
They get to a certain age, they're going through menopause, and that's a wrap.
But the dudes can just keep impregnating gals.
adam ray
Look at that.
joe rogan
Bam, son!
What's up?
adam ray
He looks like he...
Bam!
Yeah.
unidentified
Bam!
adam ray
Yeah.
Wow.
jamie vernon
Mystery woman.
joe rogan
Oh, she's a mystery woman.
She's a mystery.
She's hot.
That's not a mystery.
jamie vernon
Congratulations, sir.
adam ray
Good for him.
Yeah, you did it.
joe rogan
There's a fun thing about that.
adam ray
You won the people lottery.
joe rogan
But when you see it the other way, you get creeped out.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if you saw Betty White with, like, Thor, you'd be like, what the fuck?
What's going on there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's kind of gross.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why are you doing that to that old lady?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
Yeah, you'd be worried about Betty White.
joe rogan
Yeah, are you having sex with her the way you would have sex with a young lady?
Because that's disturbing.
adam ray
Yeah, that's tough.
joe rogan
What are you doing to her?
Can she even take that kind of abuse?
adam ray
Maybe she could.
unidentified
Jesus.
adam ray
Maybe she wanted it.
joe rogan
Maybe she's just one of them old-school ladies, immigrant ladies with strong bones.
adam ray
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Stiff spines.
adam ray
Harlan used to do a joke.
When I opened for Harlan, he would do a joke where he'd go, he'd take somebody's tortilla chip out of the front row, and he'd go, here's my impression of a 75-year-old woman having sex.
And then he would just crinkle the chip into the mic, and it was like, it sounded exactly like everything breaking.
joe rogan
Yeah, it sounds wrong, right?
But like an old guy, like having sex with a hot young lady, like, go pops!
adam ray
Kind of a cool way to go out, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
I guess.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
Actually, yeah, maybe not.
Then I guess everyone's looking at you like, oh, you couldn't keep it together enough.
joe rogan
Oh, this is the one.
Oh, it's wildly untrue.
Well, of course it is.
People love saying silly shit that's not true.
Hopkins is pictured sitting next to Davis in December 2022, fueling rumors that two were romantically involved, but they're not.
But we're hoping.
We're hoping that he can get a gal like that.
That's what it is, right?
You're hoping.
You're not going, oh my god.
Because he's so old that he's passed the creepy into the novelty.
So there's a creepy firm.
The creepy version is a guy who's in his 60s is dating a girl who's 20. That seems creepy.
But if a guy's in his 70s and he's dating a girl who's 20, it's like, okay.
It's so ridiculous.
adam ray
A little more acceptable.
joe rogan
It is what it is.
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
You know?
It is what it is.
You know what it is.
I know what it is.
Everyone knows what it is.
adam ray
Stop acting like you don't know what it is.
joe rogan
He probably knows what it is, too.
He knows exactly what it is.
Maybe he lies to himself.
adam ray
That's fine.
joe rogan
We all know what it is.
adam ray
That's his deal.
joe rogan
So when it's 60 and 20 or 50 and 20, we feel like that person is probably taking advantage of that 20 year old.
adam ray
Potentially.
joe rogan
Potentially.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
Maybe she's a really mature 20. Sure.
adam ray
That could be.
joe rogan
Possibly.
Family loves this guy.
I can deal with that.
But there's a weirdness if it's like a 60 year old guy on a 20. That makes me creeped out.
adam ray
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That's too old.
adam ray
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
But if it's a...
70-year-old guy and a 20-year-old, you're like, eh, it's okay.
adam ray
Dude, my buddy went to school and there was a 45-year-old dating a 20-year-old in college.
That felt very weird.
joe rogan
But it wouldn't be weird if it was a 20-year-old guy.
This is my problem with it all.
Like, a 20-year-old, let's assume that men and women are equal, right?
A 20-year-old man and a 45-year-old lady is great.
Like, no problem.
Like, look at her.
She's got a hot young guy.
Like, no one cares at all.
At all.
It would be weird, but not weird where you would think, oh, that lady's a creep.
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
Right?
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
But like a 49-year-old guy and a 20-year-old girl, you're like, hmm.
I mean, maybe.
adam ray
Same thing with the teachers.
joe rogan
Look, I'm not one to tell people what to do.
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
But if it was the other way around, like Cher.
Cher is what?
How old is Cher now?
Don't ask a lady her age, Adam.
How old is she?
adam ray
She's 77. Wow, I was going to say 80. He's 37. Wow.
joe rogan
Okay.
But listen, that doesn't bother me at all.
Right?
That is what it is, too.
It is what it is.
You know what it is.
You know what it is.
You know what it is, man.
I know what it is.
adam ray
She knows what it is.
joe rogan
Everyone knows what it is.
adam ray
We all know what it is.
joe rogan
We all know it.
And we're fine with it.
adam ray
And we're fine with it.
joe rogan
But it's just...
adam ray
You can still go about your day and eat pizza.
Let them live their life.
joe rogan
So, like, a 49-year-old lady and a 91-year-old guy?
Like, fine.
adam ray
Let me ask you this.
When you heard about Mary Kay Letourneau, that happened in Seattle, where I'm from.
And that was the first teacher that, like, was fucking around with a kid.
That was...
I mean, that age gap was, like, I think 35 and 12. But also...
joe rogan
She...
Listen.
She's the first teacher to get caught.
adam ray
There it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's freaks all over this fucking planet.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Freaks.
There's women that are just as crazy as...
adam ray
Did you see this?
Katie was charming.
joe rogan
Some men are crazy and some women are crazy.
And some women are crazy and they have great features.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're just nuts.
And they want to blow the whole football team.
And they don't give a fuck who tells who, what, who cares.
adam ray
They got into teaching for that reason.
joe rogan
Well, who knows why they got into teaching, but they're crazy people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then some people just have no impulse control and they want to get teenagers drunk and maybe they want to relive their high school and freak these young boys out and suck their cocks.
unidentified
Wow.
Suck their cocks in front of their friends.
joe rogan
Can't believe it's happening.
adam ray
Can you imagine seeing that?
joe rogan
The math teacher's got her tits out and she's blowing you.
You're like, what am I seeing?
How is this even real?
adam ray
I don't know what I would do.
joe rogan
Bro, and they're always in Florida.
How many of them, like if I hear a story like that, like I think of another story, it's San Francisco.
adam ray
You're exactly right.
joe rogan
If it's a teacher fucking her students, I go, oh, probably Florida.
Some hot blonde with big tits.
adam ray
Tampa teacher took the pickleball team.
Oh, Jacksonville?
No, Tampa, yeah.
joe rogan
The Swinger State.
adam ray
The Swinger State.
joe rogan
It's just something in the water out there.
adam ray
It is.
joe rogan
It's probably alligator farts.
adam ray
They're fearless.
joe rogan
Turned everybody confused.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some methane in the air from alligators fart and it's got everybody high.
adam ray
They are fearless down there.
Yeah.
Hurricane warnings, they don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Well, they do give a fuck, but there's not much he can do.
If you choose to live down there, that is the fucking gamble you play.
adam ray
But don't you ever see those stories when there are like a thousand mile an hour winds coming through and then some guy's just like, I ain't going anywhere.
I built this house.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's ready to die.
Some people are just ready to check it out.
adam ray
That's what it is.
joe rogan
And if God's going to take him out by flattening their house on top of him, they're like, I'm not leaving.
I don't want to go anywhere.
adam ray
Kind of respect that.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe their car doesn't have any gas.
They don't have any money for gas.
You know, if you're going to drive away from a hurricane, you are going to have bumper-to-bumper traffic for a day.
You ever been in that?
You ever seen it?
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Did you?
You ever get stuck in one of those?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
Like just a big pile-up for hours?
joe rogan
No, like a hurricane.
adam ray
Oh, a hurricane.
Oh, shit, no.
joe rogan
It's a unique pile-up because the whole state's trying to leave.
Like, the highways are not set up where everybody can leave.
The highways are set up for normal stuff.
adam ray
So you're better...
joe rogan
Normal stuff is, you're going there, but I'm going there.
We're not all going there.
So if everyone's going there...
adam ray
Wow, dude, we might need to spark that back up.
joe rogan
You gotta think about that.
Normal traffic is we're all going all over the place.
I gotta go to the east.
You gotta go to the west.
That's fine.
We could have multiple cars going there.
adam ray
Rarely is everybody going.
joe rogan
All going that way.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That's fucked.
That is so fucked.
Look at this, dude.
This is what it's like.
56 hours on the road to escape from Hurricane Irma.
56 hours.
That's what that looks like.
That's why you don't live there.
You don't live there unless you have a fucking private jet or a helicopter that can get you the fuck out of there, because if you get stuck in that shit...
adam ray
You're arguably less safe, right?
Or I don't know.
joe rogan
It depends on when you leave, okay?
Because the thing about the modern storm, the way the meteorologists and the way they're able to predict the paths of these things, they're pretty good.
They're pretty fucking accurate.
And they see them coming pretty far away.
So you get a couple of days.
But that's 56 hours.
56 fucking hours.
That's what it looks like.
So nothing is set up for that, dude.
Nothing is set up where...
See, they have both lanes on both sides going this way.
No one's going the other way.
You notice that?
So they change the lanes.
So instead of on the right lane, people going forward and this one, they're going back.
Nope.
Everyone's going the same fucking way.
unidentified
That's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam ray
Yeah, no amount of podcasts can get you through that drive or road head.
joe rogan
Nothing, but you might not have the money for the gas.
adam ray
Right, okay.
joe rogan
Like, you're gonna run out of gas.
adam ray
This is what's keeping you stationary.
joe rogan
You're gonna have to pull over and get gas.
You better hope they have gas, because a lot of times they run out of gas.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
In a lot of places they run out of gas when there's hurricanes.
So you have to have a full tank.
You have to make sure your car's not a gas guzzler.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're gonna have to shut it off, maybe, because you're stuck in the middle of this fucking road and it's not going anywhere, because there's 10 million people on the same road.
That's a mindset that people don't take into consideration when they think about living in places like that.
You have to take into consideration the fact that everyone has to go in one direction.
Not good.
Florida is shaped like a dick, right?
So it's a narrow-ass bullshit state, and everybody's going towards the north.
adam ray
That's what's scary about LA, too, even with these last few earthquakes happening.
I'm like, oh, man, dude.
We're just not set up in a leave town with ease.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no.
LA's not set up like that at all.
For example, Texas 146, which travels through Liberty County, dumped 600,000 people into a county with only 70,000 residents.
adam ray
Oh, that makes sense.
joe rogan
Dude, you know how insane that is?
600,000 people in a place that only has 70,000 residents.
That's crazy.
Thousands of people ran out of gas, their cars overheated from all the inching along, causing many to stop and sleep along the highway.
There even reports of price gouging by convenience store owners inundated with customers.
Crazy.
The death of 24 Bel Air nursing home residents who died when their chartered bus caught fire and exploded at about 6.45 a.m.
adam ray
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Clogging interstate.
Traffic clogging interstate.
So the car overheat and caught fire.
adam ray
Yeah, so that's happening just with the influx of people, right?
There's just cars popping off.
joe rogan
Dude, when you've got to get the fuck away from a hurricane, that is...
adam ray
Have you been in one?
Or any sort of tornado?
joe rogan
Not like that.
No, nothing like that.
adam ray
Any desire to...
joe rogan
Hurricanes that had made it all the way, like Gloria, made it all the way to Boston when I was a kid.
That was a...
adam ray
Did you have to go in a shelter and all that?
joe rogan
No, it wasn't that scary.
By the time it got all the way up to Boston, it was nothing like the tropical ones.
The ones where you're catching them hot off the ocean, and you're getting those fucking Florida Keys, those fucking Miami ones.
Bro, those are bananas.
adam ray
Take you down.
joe rogan
I was in a rainstorm once in Miami where the whole highway had a stop.
Whole highway stopped.
adam ray
Because you couldn't see anything.
joe rogan
You couldn't see a goddamn thing.
The whole highway stopped.
adam ray
It's wild how long people don't drive still, too, with you when you just can't see.
joe rogan
No, no one was driving.
adam ray
Okay, at this point.
joe rogan
It was so bad, no one was driving.
I was doing a gig in Miami.
Eddie Bravo was doing a jiu-jitsu seminar in Miami.
I was doing a gig in West Palm.
That's what it was.
And I had to go down and travel to Miami with him.
We had to stop on the highway.
Stop dead.
The whole highway.
adam ray
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
It was white.
You couldn't see anything.
adam ray
That's like apocalypse shit.
joe rogan
For how long?
That wasn't that long because they just dumps and then it goes away in a few minutes and it becomes passable where it's just raining now.
It's not so insane that no one can see.
But you've never seen that before if you've never been in like a tropical place.
That was a normal rainstorm.
That wasn't like a hurricane warning.
william gein
They just get so bananas you can't fucking see a car in front of you.
joe rogan
You can't see anything.
adam ray
That's so fucking nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
adam ray
I had to go in a shelter once, a tornado, my grandparents and mom from Oklahoma, and when they were living there, we went into the shelter.
Tornado people, like, we were down there with people that were just like, we might have to live down here.
This could be the new, like, it was my grandparents, a few of their friends, and people that were just like, went to the shelter, and I'm fucking 10, surrounded by true doomsday guys that were just like, this is where we live now.
Like, you might need to, and you look like you're the fattest kid here, young Adam, so we might need to be chomping on those beef jerky titties.
It was wild.
But even just the idea that we're running away from this was wild.
Because Seattle, we didn't have any of that growing up.
We just had torrential rain and whatnot.
joe rogan
One time when we were at the Nashville airport, we had to go into the tornado shelter.
There was tornadoes in Nashville.
But nothing happened.
We got lucky.
That's the craziest one.
The craziest one is tornadoes.
Because you can't even predict those.
Those just show up.
adam ray
You see Twister?
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
I saw the old one.
I didn't see the new one.
I heard the new one's good.
adam ray
It's wild.
joe rogan
Is it good?
adam ray
It's awesome.
The effects are wild, dude.
joe rogan
What they can do now is compared to the old Twister.
adam ray
Oh my God.
Dude, yeah.
You believed Helen Hunt was in danger.
joe rogan
Right.
adam ray
We were very concerned for Helen Hunt.
joe rogan
Damn.
adam ray
And now you're...
I thought about going to one of those theaters.
I want to know how you feel about this.
The ones that shake the seats.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
adam ray
Yeah.
No, thanks.
joe rogan
Fuck that with all these people freaking out around me.
If I had to go to see a fucking horror movie and the seat is shaking, people would start screaming.
No thanks.
adam ray
It's too real.
joe rogan
Too much of a mindfuck.
Maybe in some movies it would be cool.
adam ray
Well, when I worked at Universal Studios, they had a Shrek 4D. And so when Donkey would sneeze, you'd get blown with snot and stuff.
People like that, but that's a theme park.
I hosted the Fear Factor live show at Universal for a little bit.
That's hilarious.
And it was not anything close to your show, but you'd have to make people think the first stunt was like, these guys are going to be hanging on to these bike handlebars 30 feet in the air, and there's a platform below them, and when the platform drops out...
You hear the sound effect.
They gotta hang on, but they're attached to a bungee cord, so there's no real danger of all of it.
And then it was, the only real thing that was kind of close to the show was the eating of stuff.
It was like, we have this picture of sour milk and beaver clits and just all this.
It was just crazy shit, and one guy projectile vomited on me, and I said, what the fuck, into the mic in front of 1,500 kids, and I got suspended for a week because I cursed in front of kids.
joe rogan
Well, you threw up in your mouth.
adam ray
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
What do you want?
Perfection?
You got a Fear Factor show.
adam ray
Dude.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
adam ray
Yeah, it was wild.
joe rogan
That's hilarious, though, that you hosted that.
adam ray
It was nuts, dude.
I mean, it was very...
I mean, dude, the show was...
joe rogan
You, me, and Ludacris.
unidentified
Yeah, dude, it's a small club.
adam ray
Marry, fuck, kill.
That is...
Did you ever go to Universal when you were there with the kids?
Sure, yeah.
I probably saw you.
I was Wolverine there for three years.
unidentified
I did.
joe rogan
You know what I used to love at Universal?
The zombie place.
adam ray
Oh my god, it was awesome.
joe rogan
The fucking...
What am I thinking?
The Walking Dead.
The Walking Dead thing.
adam ray
Oh yeah, the maze that they would have.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's fun.
adam ray
It's incredible.
joe rogan
That's fun.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's pretty scary.
adam ray
We had, during Halloween Horror Nights, before they put a clamp down on it, but I dressed up as Scarface Zombie, so I was Pacino Zombie.
So I'm just chasing people around, scaring them.
unidentified
Oh shit, dude.
joe rogan
Is that you as Wolverine?
adam ray
That's me, dude, for about four years.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
adam ray
It's scaring the shit out of people.
joe rogan
Universal has a great Waterworld thing, too.
Like, Waterworld, the movie, it was not that good.
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
But Waterworld, the, like, show.
adam ray
The show's the best part.
joe rogan
It's fucking great.
adam ray
Oh, yeah, dude.
joe rogan
It's better than the actual Waterworld.
Right?
Isn't it crazy that they banked on a movie that turned out to be a tremendous flop.
adam ray
That's insane.
joe rogan
And they put together a theme show for a movie that was a tremendous flop.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the theme show is so good that people still come to see it about a movie that no one cares about.
adam ray
Bro, it's wild.
joe rogan
They spent so much money.
adam ray
Millions of dollars.
Maybe billions.
joe rogan
One of those things where...
adam ray
It sounded like...
joe rogan
It just didn't work out.
It didn't work.
adam ray
The pitch sound must have been like...
It's like Last of the Mohicans on water.
And the guy from Field of Dreams and Tin Cup.
joe rogan
I like a jet ski.
adam ray
Dude, there were days when you'd see people, dude, some of my universal days where I'd see a guy dressed as Spongebob.
I mean, I was a 1940s cop, was the best job I had there, because I wasn't from anything.
I'd improvise as Wolverine and do bits, and my boss was like, Wolverine's not funny.
Stop doing fucking stand-up, because I'm doing open mics at this time.
So I'm a 1940s cop walking around, can make fun of people, do whatever.
And at one point, I picked up a squirt gun that was on a kiosk.
It was like 120 out.
And I'm just shooting people with it and doing all these bits.
And Japanese tourists would walk by and I'd shoot this one guy in the back.
And then all these people would watch me and I'd be like, act like I didn't know what was happening.
And my boss pulls me over and she goes...
What are you doing?
This is 1940s New York.
This part of the park.
There's a New York people out of the window.
There's a cabbie.
You're supposed to be making people think this is 1940s New York.
And I go, Jenna, with all due respect, a trolley just drove by with Fievel, Curious George, and SpongeBob SquarePants blasting the song, ooh-ee-ooh-ah-ah, ching-chang, walla-walla-bing-bang.
And I was like, I'm not a history buff, but I'm pretty sure that song wasn't also a part of the 40s.
And she's like, it's your job to make people think that this is 1940s New York.
And I was like, fuck, I gotta get out of here.
unidentified
Jesus, it's your job to make people retarded?
joe rogan
What does that mean?
adam ray
And I was like, if people were walking out thinking that I didn't make them think that this is, then they shouldn't be in the park in the first place.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
That's funny.
That's like people that go to those fairs, those renaissance fairs, and then some people break character, and then the other people try to talk to them in character.
You ever see that happen?
adam ray
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, it's hilarious.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
I broke character all the time.
Dude, Dave Matthews came in one time with his family.
I'm in full 1940s cop and he's like, is there any way I can get a beer?
And I was like, yeah, come with me.
donald j trump
There's one Irish pub down here.
adam ray
I'll take you to it.
And I'd just seen him the night before.
I go, dude, you guys fucking crushed it last night.
And he goes, oh shit.
He goes, can you break character?
I go, dude, I don't want to be here.
Fuck yeah.
And then I went and he offered to get me a shot of this bar and I was like, dude.
joe rogan
You ruined the experience for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ruined it for Dave Matthews.
He was like, he's breaking character.
adam ray
This is bullshit.
joe rogan
I wanted to get the cop thing.
I paid for the cop thing.
adam ray
I paid for the cop thing.
joe rogan
This is bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Dave Matthews.
That's funny.
adam ray
Cool as fuck.
joe rogan
That whole Universal Rides thing, the best thing is the Harry Potter thing.
adam ray
A thousand percent.
joe rogan
That fucking roller coaster with the dragons.
adam ray
Oh, yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
It's incredible.
adam ray
It's really good.
You don't get sick from those?
joe rogan
No.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, I'm lucky.
I don't have the motion sickness thing.
The motion sickness thing is a weird one.
You can't read in a car.
adam ray
Dremamine is your fucking cocaine.
joe rogan
You can throw up from reading in a car, which is real weird.
Your brain gets so confused.
Like, why am I looking at something that's stationary when I know my body's in motion?
adam ray
I know.
It doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
Your body does not like it.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
At all.
And your body's like, you must be sick.
You have to tell it, I'm not sick, bitch.
I'm looking at my phone.
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
You know?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
I tried to read a book once in a car, and I was fighting off the nausea.
I was like, don't be a pussy.
And then I was like, oh my god, you can't fight it anymore.
It was like...
adam ray
Just happened.
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, I held it in.
adam ray
Oh, you did?
joe rogan
But I was like...
You know where it comes up in your throat and you have to swallow it back down and it burns your throat?
You know those feelings?
That was right there.
adam ray
I had a kid have to do that in science class.
He had chew, 8th grade, and the teacher found him.
Mr. Moore caught Joe Antonsich, RIP, and he had a big thing of chew in his mouth.
And Mr. Moore goes, Mr. Antonsich?
He looked like David the Gnome.
Huge beard.
You couldn't see his eyes barely.
His beard came up to here.
Big fucking fro.
And he goes, Mr. Antonsich, I see that chew in your mouth.
And he was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
He goes, Swallow.
Made him swallow it, dude.
Puked.
Right after.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
adam ray
Wish that story was better.
joe rogan
I'd be mad at that teacher.
You can't make my kid swallow chew, you fucking idiot.
adam ray
This was in fucking 1995, dude.
joe rogan
That's really bad for you.
Really bad for you.
adam ray
Mr. Morgan didn't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Poison, Mr. Morgan, you piece of shit.
How about you shave your stupid fucking face, too, you cocksucker.
adam ray
You could tell this guy.
I mean, he was a tiny little, like, science guy that you could tell, like, I don't know.
He didn't give a fuck.
He was gonna...
joe rogan
Well, they don't like kids fucking around.
I get it, but kids are going to fuck around.
You've got to be a little bit more even-keeled.
Can't make kids swallow tobacco, you fucking idiot.
adam ray
It's pretty wild now that I'm saying it out loud.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Well, when I was in school, they used to paddle you.
When I lived in Florida.
adam ray
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
You get in a fight, they paddle you.
They'd whack you in the ass with a piece of wood.
adam ray
In front of people?
joe rogan
No.
It was just the principal.
The principal would paddle you.
unidentified
Jesus.
adam ray
That wasn't like a weird fetish?
It was just like...
joe rogan
No!
It's punishment.
You did something wrong.
You got whacked.
adam ray
I got whacked.
Did you get whacked?
joe rogan
No, I'm not really as a kid.
Yeah.
Not much.
Yeah.
Nothing like where I got hurt.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, just like a little tap on the head.
adam ray
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Nothing serious.
adam ray
A little spoon to the back.
joe rogan
Nothing crazy.
A little slap.
adam ray
My sister threw a high heel shoe at my back once during a fight.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
adam ray
Yeah, that fucking hit me right in the back.
I went down.
joe rogan
It's a piece of wood.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a goddamn deadly weapon.
adam ray
Yeah.
Then she locked me in the garage.
Then I got out.
joe rogan
Jesus.
adam ray
Locked her in the garage.
joe rogan
Jesus.
adam ray
And then she made fun of me for being a fat kid and having bigger tits than our mom.
Oh my god.
And she was adopted, so I go, you mean my mom?
And fucking, dude.
Mic drop, but also.
Yeah, that one.
That one.
Yeah, that was fucking.
I said, Natalie, I'm so sorry, even to this day.
Yeah, that was wild.
joe rogan
That's to the bone.
adam ray
Yeah, she's crushing it now.
joe rogan
Yikes.
adam ray
Isn't that deep?
As a fucking, dude, 10 years old?
joe rogan
Well, kids aren't fucking mean because they don't understand what it's going to do to someone.
That's why bullies in school are so dangerous.
Because you could ruin someone's life for no fucking reason other than you can.
You see kids ganging up on kids for no reason other than you can.
You're going to ruin that kid's experience for the rest of their life.
Because some kids, they get bullied in high school and they never recover.
They become like recluses.
They hide.
They always associate people with pain.
It becomes a real problem.
Gun's a real fucking problem.
adam ray
Yeah, the kids that would tease me for weight stuff, like, I try, you know, as I got a little older, I'd try to give benefit of the doubt and be like, oh, they didn't know any better, they're just fucking kids, but like, and thank God I found a way to maybe, you know, get around it, but like...
joe rogan
Kids can be so mean.
They can be mean, they don't even know they're doing it.
adam ray
They don't even know, man.
joe rogan
They're just doing it because they're experienced.
Louis C.K. had a whole bit about it.
I forget how it went, but it was essentially about his...
Well, he's dead on right.
It's like they know that they can do this thing, so they do it.
And it's like throwing a rock in a window.
It's like they can, so they do it.
And young kids don't think about consequences.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
They're little animals.
They're not fully developed yet.
adam ray
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
And so they're mean, but the problem is when they're mean to, like, if you're mean to a 14-year-old that's just coming into ninth grade, you might fuck them up forever.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
Forever.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially if you're like 16 or 17, you're a big older bully and you're picking on some 14-year-old kid, like, whoa!
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
I know so many people that just got destroyed from their experience in high school.
Just destroyed their confidence.
adam ray
Didn't recover?
joe rogan
Well, it alters the course of your life.
adam ray
Oh, wow, yeah.
joe rogan
You're always thinking you're a loser.
So it kills your confidence to try anything.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kills your confidence to meet people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you're afraid of interactions.
adam ray
You're always hearkening back to that, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that's why parents, you know, old school parents will tell you and some boy bullies you.
You go back to school and you punch that kid right in the fucking face.
Like, imagine sending your kid to school and telling them that.
Like, go punch that bully in the face.
Like, what the fuck?
adam ray
I know my mom used to tell me, she's like, go tell the teacher or call me and I'll call the parents.
I'm like, that's the fucking last thing I want to do.
At least I'm like savvy enough to like not...
joe rogan
You're not gonna be there all the time.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I'm gonna have to go to school and I'm gonna have to deal with this guy.
If you intervene, you're not gonna intervene every day.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what's gonna happen?
He's just gonna remember that you intervened the next time he sees me?
No, he's gonna put me in a locker.
You know, it's gonna be a real problem.
adam ray
I ran for vice president in the fifth grade, and my mom helped me write my speech.
She was reminding me of this.
And I go, big kid again.
And I was running on the platform of, if you vote for me, we'll have ice cream every day.
My mom helped me write this, and I was like, I think I'm okay.
And then she was like, put this.
And she goes, say, if you vote for me, I promise we'll have ice cream at LFP every day.
Not...
Joe, I did that in front of the whole school.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
adam ray
Crickets.
One teacher in the back.
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Your mom told you to say that?
Oh, mom.
adam ray
Terrible idea.
What a roll the dice.
joe rogan
Don't listen to your mom.
adam ray
Also, kind of applaud the confidence to open mic night in front of the school.
It's also when Not was still kind of in.
joe rogan
So you think that was like the first joke you ever cracked publicly?
adam ray
It might have been.
joe rogan
Probably has to be.
adam ray
It probably has to be.
joe rogan
Right?
I mean, when did you ever address a group of people?
adam ray
No, never.
joe rogan
Never?
adam ray
Never.
joe rogan
Right?
So first time ever.
adam ray
In front of the whole school.
joe rogan
First bad joke.
adam ray
Crickets.
joe rogan
Right out of the bat.
unidentified
Maybe a couple kids that were like, dude, this guy's fucking onto something.
joe rogan
Well, some kids just like it when there's a little bit of chaos.
Like, yeah.
Say something stupid.
Give me something to think about other than my miserable existence.
adam ray
Dude, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is a lot of people.
That's a lot of online activity.
Like, people just looking for someone to fail so they go like, yeah!
Love it!
adam ray
I don't read the comments right now.
I'm trying not to.
joe rogan
Right now?
When did you start doing that?
adam ray
Maybe a couple years ago.
joe rogan
Oh, good for you.
adam ray
I was reading both, and then it was just like, I'd love to live in, like, the...
joe rogan
Present?
adam ray
Yeah.
I know how I think it.
It felt good in the moment.
Why would I want to take away...
Anything from that.
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's an unnatural way of human beings interacting with each other.
It's not good for you.
adam ray
Sometimes I look at stuff just to go like, oh, did they...
Like when Shane and I did the Trump-Biden thing, I was like, I want to see if people are digging it.
You read a few nice things and then it's like you just have to have self-discipline to go.
joe rogan
But listen, you know it's good.
You know that's good.
It killed.
You guys doing Biden and Trump and going back and forth with each other, it was magic.
It was hilarious.
Thanks, man.
You know what it is.
adam ray
What a wild thing to have as far as SNL does these political things.
They're like, what, 8 to 12 minutes?
Two hours of it?
That's a wild...
joe rogan
They can't even come close.
They can't even come close.
First of all, it's not possible for them to come close.
They can't come close in the subject matter.
And they don't have Shane.
adam ray
Shane is the greatest Trump that's ever existed.
joe rogan
Shane should be writing for Trump.
He should be writing for Trump.
If Trump was smart, he would hire Shane and Tony Hinchcliffe to write for him.
Because Shane could show him how to do it.
This is how?
This is how you say the joke?
adam ray
When he came out and was doing the dance and the low clapping, I don't know if you saw this too, the way he was drinking his Bud Lights with two little...
joe rogan
Fully in character.
adam ray
Fully in character.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, for real, he could show Trump how to deliver the lines.
adam ray
Dude, when we were, the first time we did it, because Shane and I only maybe seen each other and chatted about 10 times at clubs prior to that first time.
So this is really, this is another thing I love about comedy.
It's like we got to really kick it like this past weekend a lot and chum it up and like just get to know each other more because we were thrust into this thing kind of together, you know?
And during the first time with the mothership, I lean over in character and I go, I go, hey Shane, you realize this is the most we've ever talked to each other?
And then the character goes, Joe, shut the fuck up.
And I start fucking biting my lip.
It's so funny, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a fun time for comedy and a fun time for politics if you're a comedian.
For the rest of the world, it's like, whew.
I said that when Joe Biden was operating the country, it felt to me like how I feel when my Tesla is on autopilot.
I'm like, yikes, does this really work?
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's like, Jesus.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
What's happening there?
And now, seeing you as Joe Biden, you're way more coherent than the actual Joe Biden, which is so nuts.
adam ray
Some zingers, yeah.
Lots of balance you have to find.
People were like, dude, just mumble and stumble and you'll be fine.
I'm like, I'm still there to be funny.
But you figured out how to do it in character, too, which is fun.
joe rogan
Because you have that thing where you can do the bumbling, and it's actually funny.
Like, on purpose bumbling.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
Because sometimes he just bails.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He just bails on what he's saying.
adam ray
Totally.
joe rogan
And he just, you know, we gotta...
We beat Medicaid.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
That's what I said on the first.
I go, we beat Medicaid, Megatron, we took down the Transformers.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
And even when I got there with the Tell, I go, we got David Tell, Dave Chappelle, we got Adele up here, come on!
joe rogan
How long did you do the character before you did it on Kildoni?
Did you fuck around with it?
adam ray
Bro, no.
I'd done a couple voices in my act talking about the debate, maybe.
So that was the first time doing it.
That's crazy.
Jeremiah Watkins and I did a bunch of, during COVID, lost Phil episodes.
And that's kind of how I started to find whatever my version of it was that.
But this was just a first...
joe rogan
Have you met him?
adam ray
Who?
joe rogan
Dr. Phil.
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
adam ray
But I think he's going to come on my show at the store in the fall.
joe rogan
How are you going to feel when you meet him?
adam ray
I'll probably start jerking off.
joe rogan
Are you going to handle it better than you handled Jim Carrey?
adam ray
Oh, fuck.
I think so.
unidentified
I hope so.
adam ray
I hope so, for your sake.
I hope so.
I think it'll be awesome.
I hope he doesn't get tense.
Yeah, what if he just is that...
Honestly, when they were playing the...
unidentified
I need to be in charge of what you're allowed to say.
joe rogan
Because you might be saying things...
You know, he might get to...
adam ray
I thought he was going to come out at Madison Square Garden when they played that video montage when they put me in the Kill Tony Hall of Fame.
I thought he was going to come out behind me and, I don't know, fucking stab me in the back and go, we won't be right back.
joe rogan
That would have been funny.
adam ray
Just take me down.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's...
adam ray
I think he'll be...
I want him to come out on my show at the Comedy Store and when they announce Dr. Phil, he comes out instead.
And then everybody goes nuts.
And then I come out, we shake hands and chat for about 20, 30. Well, Kill Tony's so big now, I could see him coming out.
joe rogan
Especially now, because he's got that...
adam ray
He's got a network and a book.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got some stuff to sell.
adam ray
Dude, I plug his book on every episode of the show.
People buy books now, Joe, and bring them to my club dates and have me sign and do a thing.
Tiffany Haddish was on one of the shows, and I go, Tiff, this guy's got a question for you.
And he's like, Tiffany, I can't stop drinking, but I can't stop jerking off.
And she goes, you gotta stop jerking off.
She goes, you're gonna go blind.
You jerk off too much, you're going to go blind.
I go, I actually talk about that in my book, We've Got Issues.
I go, chapter 25, if you come too much, you're going to lose your ability to see the world.
So I'm finding ways to plug the book.
joe rogan
That'll keep him happy.
That'll definitely sell some books.
adam ray
I think that's kind of not a bad move, right?
No, it's a very good move.
joe rogan
Solid move.
Good move on your part.
adam ray
And it's a fun bit.
And it's like people now, I don't know.
joe rogan
No, it's definitely fun.
But what would happen if you said stop doing it?
adam ray
Stop doing it.
And it was fun.
It was a fun run.
unidentified
I'd keep throwing it.
adam ray
Okay, you heard it here first.
joe rogan
I think we're going to have to go to court for this one.
adam ray
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
Let it go.
adam ray
I mean, it's parody, and it's always...
So I don't think there's a real...
It would have to...
I mean, it'd be a cease and desist of some sort, right?
joe rogan
Well, parody is an interesting thing, right?
Because people are really worried about parody now with AI. Because there's a lot of parody now with AI. Oh, yeah.
There was this one Kamala Harris thing that was going around where she never said any of these things.
There's the original speech that she gives, and there's this ridiculous version of the worst thing that a person...
Oh, God.
Yeah, and it's AI. And it's like, yeah, that's one of them weird ones.
That's a weird one.
Because if you could do that, then you could have people saying all kinds of things.
If that's okay to take a famous person who's the vice president of the United States...
Have her say a bunch of shit that she didn't really say Because it's parody like you can kind of get a little slippery with that like you can get like subtle parody Yeah, or it's like you barely know that she's not saying those things.
adam ray
Yeah, and then it becomes like people believe it's real It's pretty obvious though right the videos of these not always man.
joe rogan
They're getting good They're getting really good.
They're getting really good.
They're getting close enough that they could trick a lot of people.
And I think the best version of it now is pretty fucking tight, man.
adam ray
The vocal stuff is pretty wild.
joe rogan
It's all wild.
They can take your voice and have you say almost anything.
And if they do a good job with it and manipulate it and tweak it, like the intonations, God, they get it so goddamn close.
adam ray
Scary.
unidentified
There's still a little part of you that listens to it and goes, this seems a little fake.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I always wonder if, like, if I didn't know that it definitely wasn't real, I wonder if it would feel fake to me.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
adam ray
Yeah.
I don't know.
I feel like, yeah.
I don't know.
They said we're gonna have flying cars about now and it's not happening, so maybe AI won't be as scary as...
joe rogan
They do have flying cars.
adam ray
Yeah, but like a part of society.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not common, but they would help in the hurricane place as long as you don't catch them winds.
adam ray
I remember when Dallas had Uber helicopters for about two months.
joe rogan
Bro, could you imagine if Florida had flying cars and hurricanes in the middle of the hurricanes?
You know there'd be a bunch of those same kind of dudes that shoot out their window at people in road rage.
They would be flying in winds that they shouldn't be flying in and crashing into the whole highway in a burst of flames and killing everybody.
And it would be on YouTube Reels the next day.
adam ray
Florida is the guinea pig of states for all the stuff that's...
unidentified
Well, it's a state that was essentially founded...
joe rogan
Okay, there's two findings, right?
There's the original.
The Spaniards landed in Florida first.
The first city was in Florida, in this country, right?
So you have, like, the colonizers, the first original colonizers land in Florida.
unidentified
Then, you know, all the fucking...
joe rogan
Prisoners that Castro releases, he gets them out and puts them on fucking boats and sends them to Miami.
And then you have the crazy cocaine days in the 1980s.
And then you have an economy that has, there was more, at least at one point in time, find out if this is true still, there's more banks per capita in Miami.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, for a city than anywhere else in the country.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Because it was all money laundering.
People were just, like, they were moving money around with cocaine.
And people were making millions of dollars and putting it in trash bags and digging holes in their backyard.
You ever see Cocaine Cowboys?
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
Fucking incredible.
Fucking incredible documentary.
About everything you're talking about?
Yes.
It's all about cocaine in Miami.
At one point in time, one graduating class, the Miami Police Academy, every single one of them either went to jail for corruption or was murdered.
My god the entire class it was just cocaine Everyone was out of their fucking minds.
They're all on it and they're all committing crimes on it And they're all making millions of dollars and they're all going to nightclubs at Scarface it's Scarface was based on that my god Brian De Palma scars face written by Was Oliver Stone right didn't Oliver Stone write it sounds right it is right For how long?
adam ray
How long was this time?
A couple years or what?
joe rogan
Like a decade.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
More.
Maybe more than a decade.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Maybe 20 years.
I had a buddy who was an ophthalmologist who did his residency at a university in Miami during the cocaine days.
He said, dude, it was nuts.
It was nuts.
Gunshot wounds, stab wounds, people with things up their asses.
So many people got brought into the emergency room with things they stuffed up their ass while they were coked up.
adam ray
I didn't know that was a side effect.
joe rogan
Army soldiers.
adam ray
I thought it was like stories with no ending.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Like light bulbs, the ones that are shaped like pine cones, stuff light bulbs up their asses.
Like people were doing all kinds of wild shit and being brought into the emergency room.
adam ray
I thought Coke was just supposed to be like, you take the party up a notch and there's more fun.
joe rogan
Well, it depends on where you're starting from.
unidentified
You're like, hey man, in some places, something to blow up the ass was how...
joe rogan
Those fucking swingers in Tampa are already on the 29th floor.
It's not much of an elevator to get them to the roof.
These fucking people are out of their minds.
And the whole town was founded by cocaine.
And it still has that feel, this party feel to that city still.
I'm sure cocaine's still an issue there, but I mean, it's not the whole thing now.
But it's like, that's a frivolous area.
I always say if you want to starve to death, open a bookstore in Miami.
adam ray
No one's got no patience.
joe rogan
You know you're reading there?
You're reading.
What the fuck up?
We're out here stunting.
adam ray
Pot hasn't had a similar type, I don't know.
joe rogan
Effect on the town?
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not really, right?
Maybe pot and LSD was San Francisco in the 70s and the 60s.
But like, not really, you know?
adam ray
But people weren't putting stuff up their butts and whatever.
joe rogan
No!
Well, that's reefer madness stuff.
That's the opposite of what you would do if you were high.
You'd take that toy soldier and you'd go, if I put this in my ass, what if I get stuck?
You'd start freaking out.
unidentified
What if I have to go to the hospital?
joe rogan
It's stuck in my ass.
I'm not doing it.
When you're on coke, you're like, get up there, soldier!
adam ray
Do your fucking duty for- Where there's a will, there's a way!
donald j trump
Are you a deserter?
unidentified
What did you sign up for to protect you?
joe rogan
Piece of shit.
You're coked up out of your mind.
adam ray
I did one of Joey Diaz's Death Stars the last time I did his pod when he was in LA. Yeah, he would do that, do you?
That might be the highest I've ever been.
joe rogan
Uncomfortable, very dangerous, bad for people's psyche.
adam ray
I was good for about 20 minutes, and then don't remember what happened after that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he takes people, he throws them into the darkest pits of their soul.
adam ray
Thank God he just talked, like, I was so, I got quiet, I remember I looked over at Lee at one point, and I was just like...
I don't know if I can say anything else.
joe rogan
Lee's probably asleep.
adam ray
Yeah, he was.
joe rogan
Lee was probably asleep standing up.
adam ray
Joe would finish the story and go, and then, and we got here, and then, let me tell you something, man.
unidentified
There's one time we were in poker.
adam ray
And I was like, when he got real low like that, I was like, okay, I think this, I got another 10 minutes to be quiet.
unidentified
Right.
adam ray
Because of another story.
joe rogan
Try to catch your brain.
adam ray
Totally.
Catch, wow, dude.
What a great way to put it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Catch it.
Where is it?
joe rogan
Where's my fucking brain?
adam ray
Get over here.
joe rogan
You know how to think.
adam ray
Yeah.
Oh, God, he was, I'd never been so paranoid.
unidentified
Breathe.
adam ray
Just breathe.
The amount of times I told myself to breathe was crazy.
Terrifying.
joe rogan
The old days of the Church of What's Happening Now is all just Joey doing edibles.
Insane amounts of edibles and just being obliterated.
With Lee Syatt, there's so many episodes where his eyes are closed and he's just rocking back and forth.
He's hallucinating.
He's watching neon cartoons fuck behind his eyelids.
adam ray
I remember he gave him another Death Star when he was like, eat another one, Lee.
And he was like, He woke up to eat it, and then he, I mean, it was, yeah, it was wild.
But it was like, you know, I wanted to be, I wanted to participate.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, you have to.
adam ray
How do you not?
joe rogan
You have to.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're doing Joey's show, you have to be on the same wavelength, otherwise it'd be rude.
adam ray
But I was, yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Imagine being a sober person, listening to that conversation, like, what are you saying?
unidentified
Look at Lee!
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
He's in another dimension right now.
adam ray
Oh, God.
joe rogan
He's literally in another dimension.
He's gone.
He's gone.
adam ray
Eyes in the back of your head.
joe rogan
He's passed over.
adam ray
Always smiling, so he was on some sort of a journey.
joe rogan
Well, listen, he's on the Church of What's Happening Now with Joey Diaz having a great time.
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
Which is when you want to be that fucked up on edibles.
You're around nice people, having a wonderful time.
adam ray
By the way, another stamp in the comedy zeitgeist or the history books of like, I feel very fortunate to have been in a time where I got to be around that and then beyond, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, obviously you guys have been homies forever, but like, Yeah, that's like, you know, that was a staple in time.
joe rogan
Well, also, it doesn't exist anymore.
Like, people forgot.
I keep trying to tell him to bring back to church, and I'm trying to get him and Lee together again to do...
unidentified
Oh, cool.
joe rogan
I think they're talking about it, and Lee was out here when he was out here.
Goddamn, those two together were so fun.
It's just, Joey Diaz like that was so funny.
He's just so Joey Diaz.
And if you know him, you love him, like on the July 4th one, when he was like screaming, you're a fucking American!
It's like in the background music.
The Joey Diaz State of the Union.
It's incredible.
adam ray
Those are also some of the wildest nights at the store that I will never forget in the OR of seeing a lineup that's just, you know, Tom, Bill, you, Joey.
Like, you bringing up Joey or Joey bringing up you is a half hour that I don't think I'll ever forget, dude.
That's so wild.
And I know you get that now with the mothership of what you guys are doing here and what you've created.
But man, like, seeing it for the first time of it, of me seeing it, is what I'm, I guess, getting at.
Of being, and getting to a point to where it was like, open mics at the store, then did phones for a few years, and then being a regular, then just being around, and being around enough to be comfortable to stick around and sit in a bucket seat and watch that transition happen, was wild, dude.
The fucking, the pops and the roars, and then you sitting down and watching him was so fucking cool, you know?
I don't know.
That's other stuff that is not...
You have to just be around to see that.
joe rogan
It was a different time, too.
You could do that then, and you could hang out in the back, and you didn't get bothered.
That was an interesting time of the store, because it was so heavy.
There were so many killers.
There was so many people there.
It was such a magnet for crazy people, too.
So there's this energy in that place that was so different.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that's also because it's like Ciro's nightclub and people were killed there.
adam ray
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Bugsy Siegel.
You don't know all those stories?
Oh, my God.
Bugsy Siegel owned it.
adam ray
I just knew it was a nightclub.
That's about as far as my...
joe rogan
A mob-run nightclub.
adam ray
Holy shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
Of course it was.
joe rogan
I'm sure you've talked to people that have seen ghosts there, right?
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How many other places where people have seen ghosts?
adam ray
I know.
joe rogan
That's like the most ghostiest of ghost places in LA. Yeah.
When you talk to those fucking ghost freaks.
adam ray
Oh, really?
joe rogan
It's been featured on?
Yeah, man.
There's a bunch of stories about the comedy store being haunted.
Yeah, I know multiple people that have seen Ghosts there.
Carla Bow used to have a crazy story about sleeping on the stage, and something grabbed his leg and dragged him to the end of the stage, and then he heard a bunch of chairs clink and the door slammed, and there was no one in the room.
He was asleep on the stage.
He got kicked out of his apartment.
He's had a fight with his girlfriend.
Fuck you, I'm gonna make it.
You know, that kind of shit.
He's young.
And he was working as a doorman for the store, so he had a key.
He goes in and he says, I'm gonna sleep on the stage because I'm gonna fucking make it in comedy.
And then he's on stage and he hears a noise, like a chair's clinking.
He's like, hello?
Hey, it's me, Carl.
I'm here.
I got kicked out of my place, so I'm just sleeping on the stage.
Hey, who's there?
And he hears, like, a sound again.
He doesn't see anything.
And then all of a sudden, a hand grabs his leg and drags him, like, six feet, and then lets go.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Dude, that's fucking terrifying.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, maybe he lied.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's an amazing story.
The way he would tell- I want to believe.
I want to believe.
adam ray
I want to believe, too.
joe rogan
I've never heard anybody get touched by a ghost, though.
It might have been one of his friends.
He might have been blackout drunk.
One of his friends was like, Carl's sleeping on the stage.
Let's fuck with him.
And they probably never told him.
They probably forgot they did it, because they did it acid and fucking a pile of coke.
adam ray
That sounds more believable.
joe rogan
Yeah, because he was a part of Kinnison's crew.
adam ray
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
So, like, Marc Maron said that when he partied with Kinnison so hard that he had voices in his head for a year.
A year.
After he got back.
He left.
Went to Boston after he was hanging out in Los Angeles.
And he had voices in his head for like a year.
adam ray
Saying what?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Not good things, I'm sure.
They're never good voices.
adam ray
Start a podcast in your garage.
joe rogan
That took years to happen.
This is like the 90s.
This is like, not even, this is the 80s.
unidentified
That's fucking wild.
adam ray
This is like, when I met him, it was 88. So these are leftover residual voices from...
joe rogan
They did so many drugs.
They did so much coke that he like had voices in his head.
It's probably a breakdown of the natural neurochemistry.
adam ray
You're fucking with your brain somewhat.
joe rogan
100%.
You're robbing your brain of its ability to produce dopamine.
You destroy all your serotonin levels.
You fuck with everything.
When you go that hard with coke and then you have to get off, those guys get wrecked.
I've met people that are getting off coke and they are wrecked.
Like, it's just empty, and they're so drained.
adam ray
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
It just fucks you up.
And it makes you want to do more coke.
Get back on the horse.
adam ray
Hear the dog.
joe rogan
And we're back.
And we're back.
Yeah, I'd see it, and I'm like, oh my god, that's a demon.
That's a demon in powdered form.
adam ray
It's not around as much anymore at clubs, I don't think.
joe rogan
Of course it is.
adam ray
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's around all over the place.
The problem is now it's got fentanyl in it.
adam ray
Yeah, fuck that.
joe rogan
Now it could kill you.
adam ray
Fuck that, dude.
And people are still doing it.
joe rogan
That's how nutty Coke is.
They're gonna roll the dice.
adam ray
Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
You get some shit that's not from the cartel.
adam ray
That's fucking wild.
I don't even take...
People are bringing me weed now all the time, which I appreciate, but I, I mean...
joe rogan
Well, they found weed with fentanyl.
adam ray
Yeah, I know.
And it's also like, one kid had a bag.
It was at Comedy Castle in Royal Oak.
And I walk in the bathroom and he pulls out this little bag and he goes, bro, I brought you something.
And it's just a bag of shake.
And I go, oh man, thanks, bro.
I'm just trying to be polite.
I go, thanks, man.
He goes, there's more where that came from.
I go, can I be honest?
This looks like it just fell out of your pocket.
He's like, yeah, but I brought you the bag.
And I was like, the gesture's sweet, but I just feel like this is not the move.
If it was a nice joint, maybe in a tube and stuff, he's like, okay, you're a Hollywood guy, huh?
I'm like, that has nothing to do with it.
It's just a bag that was stuffed in your cargo pants.
joe rogan
Of shake.
adam ray
Yeah, of shake.
Maybe a little fentanyl.
You can't roll the dice on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't today.
You know, there's places that are trying to outlaw fentanyl tests, which is insane.
adam ray
Who's doing that?
joe rogan
Where is that happening?
Is that a Texas thing?
Where's that happening, where they're outlawing the fentanyl tests?
And I think the concern is that it would encourage people to do drugs or sell drugs, and that maybe the thing that's going to discourage them is the fact that people are dying from it, which is an insane way to think.
Let's just prevent people from dying first.
I guess the fear is that it would make people feel like it's safe to do coke again.
Center for Disease Control and Prevention and most public health agencies endorse distributing fentanyl test strips to people who use drugs.
The practice is illegal in 42 states and the District of Columbia.
Wow!
adam ray
Oh my God, that feels like way too many places.
unidentified
That's insane.
joe rogan
I thought it was like a state.
I thought it was like a Florida thing.
Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, North Dakota, and Texas.
They are now allowed in every state except Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, North Dakota, and Texas.
That's nuts, Texas.
adam ray
And it's an easy way to save lives.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, that's insane.
adam ray
Bummer.
joe rogan
Why does Texas have it illegal?
Why are fentanyl strips illegal in Texas?
Texas is one of the few states where fentanyl strips are still illegal and considered drug partenalia.
One argument that has been made against the test strips and other harm reduction practices is that they may encourage people to do drugs or continue doing drugs.
So let's just kill them.
Let's just kill them.
Let's let your kids die because they made a mistake because they're 16 and someone gave them some coke and they wanted to be a cool kid.
That's insane.
That's insane.
Yeah, we don't want to encourage kids to do drugs.
Correct.
And you know the way to do that?
Is to have positive role models who aren't doing coke.
That's the best way to do it.
The best way is, you know, your favorite country music singer doesn't do coke.
You know, like, maybe that.
Maybe your favorite athlete doesn't do coke.
And he tells you, listen, I don't do coke.
You shouldn't do coke.
It's fucking scary.
adam ray
What the fuck, dude?
joe rogan
Yeah.
adam ray
What the fuck?
That is wild.
joe rogan
It's crazy that you would have a test strip and make it illegal.
You could save lives.
That's the only way you should look at that.
You're gonna save lives.
They're already doing something illegal.
You know, you're not encouraging or discouraging.
If it was not killing people, probably the same exact amount of people would be doing coke.
adam ray
I can't believe that we got rid of, what was it, Jamie?
Sunbubble?
What was the place that you put up?
The hot tub, the cum tub place?
We got rid of those, but we can't get fentanyl strips approved?
joe rogan
Crazy.
Well, also, the real elephant in the room is, why is it a problem?
Why are these drugs tainted?
And it's because they're illegal.
That's the problem.
And the problem is we don't want to make them legal because we don't want to encourage drug use.
I get that too.
But the thing is, the only way you're going to make it safer for human beings to do these stupid things and live is if you make it legal.
It shouldn't be legal in terms of like I mean, it should be legal, but it shouldn't be something that someone can profit off of.
It shouldn't be something that someone can sell to people.
Maybe the best way to do it would be to make drugs free and legal.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Like, if I catch you selling coke, death penalty.
But if you want to give away coke, if you want to make coke and give it away, it's totally illegal.
If you want to make your own cocaine or a pharmaceutical drug company makes cocaine, they can sell that cocaine for exactly what it costs to make it and nothing more.
adam ray
Okay.
joe rogan
So no one's going to make it.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then the drug...
Well, then...
Then you will have a supply problem, and then you'll have, eh, my idea sucks.
I bailed on it.
adam ray
It was adorable to watch you go through it.
joe rogan
I bailed on it, because I was like, no, because then people just, they'll make it, and they'll suddenly get the fentanyl problem, all back over again.
You've got to allow pharmaceutical drug companies to profit, otherwise they have no incentive to make it.
Then they're going to tell you, they're going to have fucking ads like, CNN brought to you by cocaine.
That's going to be the Anderson Cooper show brought to you by crack.
adam ray
The Cocaine News Network.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it'll be.
Anderson Cooper just coked out.
It'll become like pharmaceutical drug companies sponsor those shows now, right?
It'll be cocaine sponsors.
adam ray
I would watch a full news network that was just, everyone's fucked up.
joe rogan
Responsible use of cocaine.
Just a little, woo, before you talk about the weather.
unidentified
Wow.
I'm here to talk about the weather.
adam ray
If you're going to have any segment of the news...
joe rogan
It's going to fucking rain!
Woo!
adam ray
You better got two coats on today, baby!
unidentified
You better get that fucking car gassed up because you're going to be in 56 hours of traffic.
Let's go!
adam ray
It's going to be hot.
unidentified
Let's go.
joe rogan
I'm not even going anywhere.
unidentified
I'm going to ride this motherfucker out in the basement.
Meanwhile, your basement gets flooded.
joe rogan
Some of those places get flooded.
I was watching the last hurricane.
This whole community is underwater.
Did you see any of that, Jamie?
There's a community in Florida and it was not even in the flood zone.
And they're all underwater.
Their houses are underwater.
Everything's underwater.
adam ray
No thanks.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good, dude.
Not good at all.
You're living in a place where the sky becomes an angry monster and could snuff out life.
adam ray
Have you scuba dived?
joe rogan
No.
Fuck all that.
adam ray
No thanks, I know.
There's sharks out there.
My wife is like, we don't know, I think 73% of the ocean.
She's just like, what?
joe rogan
I think it's 90. Yeah, it's gotta be.
adam ray
I think it's 90. Every day there's a new fish or dolphin or whale and you're like, I just saw this video of, I think it was a swordfish coming out and like flying across the, whatever, did he pop down to the water?
I was like, I didn't know they could fucking jump like that.
Yeah.
No thanks, dude.
joe rogan
This kid was on my podcast recently.
Bob Gimlin is his YouTube channel.
He had a very interesting point.
He said he thinks that, and this is coming from someone else who observed this, he thinks that sharks are attacking people not even to eat them.
They're attacking people because they don't want them there because they're getting in the way of the seals and all the things they eat.
That's why they're killing people.
They don't want you in their water.
And I was like, oh my god, that makes sense.
adam ray
A thousand percent.
joe rogan
I haven't even thought about it.
adam ray
What are we doing there?
joe rogan
I want to think of them as these fucking thoughtless killing machines that are just biting everything.
adam ray
Imagine just walking into a stranger's house, opening the door, just opening their fridge.
You guys might as well make some tater tots?
That's what we're doing in the ocean.
joe rogan
There's a video of a kid in Hawaii who's on a small paddleboard, fishing off a paddleboard, and a fucking tiger shark bites the paddleboard.
Have you ever seen that video?
unidentified
No.
It's terrifying.
joe rogan
But it is, I mean, if you wanted to think about it, look, the kid's out there fishing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's stealing fish from the sharks.
adam ray
Sorry, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, the shark knows that that's not a fish.
adam ray
Oh, God, is this it?
joe rogan
Watch this, dude.
Watch this.
This is crazy.
So he's out there fishing.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
Bro.
unidentified
Tiger shark!
Tiger shark ran me.
joe rogan
No, no.
Bit you, bro.
adam ray
Rammed me, yeah.
joe rogan
That thing bit him.
Watch this.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Look at that.
It bit the boat, man.
It bit the boat.
adam ray
Yeah, dude, you're taking food out of its mouth.
And its family's mouth.
Again, you walk into a stranger's house, you take the meatloaf sandwich out of your kid's mouth, your dad's going to punch you in the face.
joe rogan
He knows for sure that's not a fish.
adam ray
Shark attack seems like maybe the worst way to...
I mean, die for sure, but like...
joe rogan
It's a horrible way to die.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
First of all, you can't get away, and they move real fast, and you can't move at all.
It's not even like a bear on the ground.
You feel like maybe you can run?
Maybe?
Run up a tree?
unidentified
Maybe?
adam ray
I just saw this video with an alligator attack, where it's like, if it bites your leg, you're supposed to roll with it, and then play dead, and then you, like...
The playing dead thing, always, to me, I'm like, you're not that good of an actor.
joe rogan
Good luck keeping it together while a thing is clamped onto your fucking leg.
adam ray
Dude, I don't even think Pacino could fake dead in front of a gator.
I think they're gonna be like, dude...
joe rogan
It's gonna keep you underwater until it knows for sure, so you have to not move.
Yeah, you're not likely that.
adam ray
Are you that zen to reduce your panic around a gator attack?
joe rogan
Nobody is.
adam ray
Yeah, but a shark, dude.
That just feels...
All of them are awful.
They say punch him?
Who's got enough wherewithal or just, you know, in the moment...
joe rogan
Who survived that's punched a shark while it was wrapped around their torso?
adam ray
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
Who survived?
adam ray
Maybe Tom Bergeron.
joe rogan
They're just going to rip you in half, man.
adam ray
You're done.
joe rogan
The bite force is insane.
It's got filled with knives.
adam ray
Go to your happy place.
You know...
joe rogan
Imagine the last moment of your life, you're looking down at your entrails and no legs.
And that's it.
That's the end.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
This is the end.
adam ray
How long do you think you get to look at that before?
joe rogan
A few seconds.
You get a few seconds.
What is that thing biting?
It's just a killing machine.
But it does make sense.
And now that I see that video of the shark biting the boat, that totally makes sense.
adam ray
Taking his snacks.
joe rogan
Yeah, because I used to think that it was, oh, just they'll bite anything.
No, they're mad that you're there.
Get out of here, bitch.
adam ray
Because they're pretty smart, right?
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Well, they're ancient.
Most of these really ancient things that haven't changed at all since the dawn of time, they're not that smart because they're just about killing.
If you think about how old sharks are, I think sharks are older than trees.
Yeah.
I think sharks predate trees on Earth.
See if that's true.
I'm 99% sure it's true.
adam ray
I talk about that in my book, We've Got Issues.
Sharks are older than trees.
jamie vernon
450 million years old.
Wow.
This tree is 350 million years old.
joe rogan
So there was sharks for a hundred million years before there were ever trees.
adam ray
That's fucking wild, dude.
unidentified
Wild.
joe rogan
And they're out there in the water, and you want a scuba dive, Adam Ray?
unidentified
No, I'm good, man.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you, bro?
adam ray
I'll go to Sunbubble with Jamie.
joe rogan
They're gonna see you down there with your stupid gear, and then you're like, you fucking cocksucker, you're ruining my fishing.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, thank you, sir.
I'm not interested.
adam ray
Glad we're on the same page.
unidentified
What's that?
jamie vernon
A depiction of that shark?
joe rogan
Oh my god, what kind of shark is that?
adam ray
A little bandsaw in its mouth.
joe rogan
Is that the early sharks?
jamie vernon
Heliocoprion?
joe rogan
That's what its mouth looked like?
adam ray
A 240 million year old fish.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
You ever see that movie The Meg?
adam ray
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
One of the dumbest movies that's ever been made.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so dumb.
Like, while you're watching it, like, what have you done to me?
unidentified
Dude.
adam ray
And even Statham was just like...
We're gonna see what's down there.
No, you don't, Jason.
Go back to fucking the Italian Job 2. Biting the window.
joe rogan
It crashes through the window.
Giant 50-foot shark, whatever the fuck it was.
adam ray
What about Open Water?
Was that the name of that one?
Where it was just all shot, found footage?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a good one, though.
adam ray
It was good because it was realistic.
joe rogan
The Meg 2 is even dumber.
It's even dumber than the Meg 1. But they're fun.
It's fun dumb.
adam ray
Those are good popcorn movies from time to time.
joe rogan
Enjoyable.
You know that's not really happening.
Imagine.
It's like a Megalodon down there.
But there could be.
That's what everybody thinks.
adam ray
Maybe that's what took the rich guys in the submarine that went down there.
Do you think something big got them?
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Incompetence.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Human folly.
I think that gets more people than sharks.
You know?
That's a big one.
adam ray
I do like the idea that the further down, like all the way down there, there's something...
Like where the Titanic really...
At the fucking very bottom is something that's living down there that's just...
You can't even comprehend.
That's never even trying to come up.
But if you go all the way down there like they did, or you make it down for whatever...
I saw Will Smith in some video where he went down with some people for some Discovery show.
Like really down there to where it was like...
They shouldn't be down there.
unidentified
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of there.
adam ray
Even these astronauts are going to space that are stuck until February.
They're stuck.
Joe, why...
joe rogan
If they can get them in February.
adam ray
Why are we still going?
Is down here not good enough?
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also if they can get them in February.
adam ray
Are you fucking serious?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if that doesn't work?
What if something goes wrong with that?
Something went wrong, which is why they can't get them.
Guess what?
Things go wrong.
And you might not have rockets available that can do it.
You might not have a shuttle available that can get them.
You might not be able to fucking...
You might have, like, some sort of problems in your software.
Who fucking knows, man?
adam ray
Dude, that's...
unidentified
So scary.
joe rogan
Terrifying.
adam ray
And they have to either be saved by another, I guess, SpaceX.
joe rogan
Make friends with the Russians.
Have the Russians bring them home.
adam ray
There you go.
joe rogan
I bet they can get them.
Wouldn't that be funny?
That's a nice slap in the face.
adam ray
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Putin says, I'll do you a favor.
adam ray
Nice Putin.
joe rogan
Go get your friends.
Okay.
Just put them nice.
You'll be nice with me.
I'll be nice with you.
Go get your friends.
We'll give you Brittany Griner.
We'll bring back your astronauts.
There was a sound that was recorded once by underwater microphones that was a biological sound that was louder than anything that any animal had ever made before.
And they don't know what it is.
See if you can find that.
jamie vernon
I mean, it might not be this, but remember the other day, the humpback whales or whatever make a fucking crazy sound?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they make crazy sounds.
But I don't think they, they think they took that into account and this is different.
This, they don't know what it is and they never found it again.
But whatever this thing is, it sounded biological.
unidentified
Oh God.
joe rogan
Like it was a biological sound.
It wasn't a geological sound.
It wasn't like a sound the earth makes or, you know, a little underwater earthquake.
There's something about the sound that they determined it to be biological.
Which is like, what?
What are you talking about?
Is there fucking Godzilla down there?
adam ray
Just now finding out about this?
jamie vernon
Something called the Bloop?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
adam ray
Doesn't sound very scary.
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
19 what?
1997. We'll put up the details of it so I can read it.
Do you have an article on it?
jamie vernon
I'm just making sure it was written.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know what this sound was, they don't know what the fuck it was.
And 1997, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recorded a mysterious underwater sound that lasted for one minute and was detected by hydrophones 5,000 miles apart.
The sound was named the Bloop and came from a location off the coast of Chile.
The Bloop captured people's imagination and led to theories about what it could be, such as the call of a dinosaur, an undiscovered sea creature, or a giant squid.
In 2005, NOAA scientists discovered that sound was actually caused by an iceberg breaking away from the Atlantic Glacier.
What the fuck, dude?
I didn't even know.
So they solved it.
I was hoping it was a fucking monster.
That was the only one?
There wasn't one?
So that's what it was.
So it was probably one of those things where they had talked about it for so long that it stuck in my head that it was a biological thing.
I still have hope.
jamie vernon
I just found an article in 2017 talking about it where they said they don't know what it was.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So this is someone trying to cover up for Godzilla.
That's what that is.
That's some state-sponsored CNN-type bullshit where they're trying to cover up for the fact there's a goddamn bloop.
jamie vernon
You were reading the AI overview, so maybe it made up the answer.
joe rogan
Oh, AI, you piece of shit.
You fucking lied.
That's probably what it is.
You know, AI lies.
adam ray
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a thing called hallucinations.
If AI does not have an answer to something, it will come up with an answer.
And then that could be searched from the web, right?
So it could be some blog somewhere where some guy made up something about it was an iceberg that caused that sound.
And AI will spit that back out.
It's a thing that AI does when it doesn't know the answer to something.
Apparently, they call it hallucinations.
This is coming from AI scientists who told me this.
adam ray
I don't want AI to have hallucinations.
joe rogan
They don't even know how it works, dude.
They don't even know exactly why it's doing what it's doing.
unidentified
They don't know how it's being creative.
jamie vernon
What?
adam ray
Why don't you see those things, too, about some of these robots?
What was that thing?
It was like...
I don't know.
Having them have feelings or any sort of...
They're not gonna have feelings.
joe rogan
That's even scarier.
They're gonna be able to think really clearly, without any emotions, no remorse, no morals, no ethics, no worrying if people like them, no reading the comments.
They don't give a fuck.
They're fucking robots, man.
That's my fear about aliens.
My fear is that that's what aliens are.
They've already bypassed the human body and all of our primate systems.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They've bypassed all that.
They're all gone.
That's all gone.
adam ray
Do you think they listen to our podcast?
joe rogan
Yes, 100%.
They're listening right now.
They love it.
adam ray
What up, guys?
joe rogan
It's fun for them because they don't get to think stupid anymore.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because everything's clear.
adam ray
Right.
joe rogan
It's like, you know, it's like you want a little bit of chaos and they don't have any chaos left.
I think that's why they visit us.
That's why, like in my special, I said that I think aliens look at us the same way we look at Waffle House fights.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
Oh, yeah, that's right, dude.
joe rogan
He's just like, what the fuck is going on over here?
adam ray
What if the aliens love Danny DeVito?
What if their favorite actor is like...
joe rogan
They love Despicable Me.
adam ray
They like Gru.
Yeah, they love him.
unidentified
We love Gru.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe that's it.
I mean, who fucking knows?
But if these lying AI cocksuckers...
Do we find out about that 2017 thing?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I found another thing in 2024. I said the same thing about the iceberg.
joe rogan
Okay.
So it might be real.
jamie vernon
Might have just been an article.
They were putting it in the headlines.
People would watch their video.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
Probably.
And what year was it when they recorded that sound?
jamie vernon
It was recorded in 97. Yeah.
joe rogan
See, anything back in those days, you barely had the internet in 97. Yeah.
adam ray
I don't know facts together.
joe rogan
How do you know what you're talking about?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam ray
Anything pre-internet, I don't believe you.
joe rogan
It could be a biological sound.
It could be a dude that just ends into dinosaurs.
adam ray
Sure.
joe rogan
But there's probably some shit down there we haven't discovered.
adam ray
I think so.
joe rogan
They always find new fish.
There was a bunch that washed ashore during a tsunami.
They were like, what the fuck is this?
Was that in Thailand?
Where there was a gang of them that washed ashore in a tsunami?
These undiscovered deep sea creatures.
Crazy, blind things that live in a place where there's absolutely no light.
adam ray
They can pop up and show up here.
I don't think we need to go down and try to find them.
joe rogan
Yeah, wait for our storm.
adam ray
Yeah, wait for the storm to come through, man.
joe rogan
Don't go down there.
adam ray
Don't wash up.
joe rogan
That was in Oregon.
Look at that fucking thing.
adam ray
Oh, yeah.
I'm going out of my way to find that.
Fuck off.
joe rogan
That's some kind of an anglerfish.
adam ray
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Which is one of the craziest inventions in nature.
That nature invented a fish that has a fishing rod off of its nose.
adam ray
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, how does that even happen?
Look at that fucking thing.
Is that real?
Come on, that can't be real.
adam ray
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Is that real?
jamie vernon
Well, I know this one above it is not, but I don't know what the fuck that is.
joe rogan
See, the thing is with AI, man, you could think something's real and they just fuck with you.
And this is in the New York Post?
They might have got them.
jamie vernon
2017. Jesus.
We'll go pre-AI. But wait a minute.
joe rogan
They probably did a sample of that thing.
What is it?
Let's find out what it is.
I bet they figured it out.
Look at it.
Hmm.
Could be a fang-tooth snake eel or garden or conjure eel.
All three species occur off Texas and have large fang-like teeth.
Look at that thing.
Imagine if we lived in the ocean.
Show me the picture of that again.
Imagine if we lived in the ocean.
You gotta deal with that.
adam ray
I'm surprised Pixar, they did Finding Nemo, but they should do something that's highlighting all these lost creatures.
There's gotta be an underwater lost city where you can see the...
joe rogan
Yeah, mermaids versus monsters.
unidentified
They should.
joe rogan
Why don't they do that?
Fang-toothed snake.
Jesus, look at that fucking thing.
adam ray
Mermaids aren't real, right?
joe rogan
I hope so.
I hope they're real.
adam ray
I know, me too.
It's one of those things where I'm like, I don't fuck, like, who the fuck knows, dude?
joe rogan
But isn't it like the ultimate trap?
adam ray
Probably not, but...
joe rogan
A beautiful girl, and she has no vagina.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's just fish.
She's a fish.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, fish don't have sex.
adam ray
What are you supposed to do there?
joe rogan
The part where you have sex with doesn't exist.
It's all just...
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fish lay their eggs.
adam ray
So how are you going to lure any guy into the ocean?
joe rogan
You ever seen how old fish breed?
The female lays their eggs, and the guys just jizz all over it.
We used to catch rainbow trout when I lived in Boston, and we'd go to this lake and catch rainbows, and they would be jizzing when you pull them out of the lake.
Because it would be the time where they're spawning, and they're making baits.
And you're allowed to fish for them, at least back then you were.
And you're pulling them out as they're jizzing.
As you're holding it, you're like...
There's nutting all over the place, trying to get their last loads out before you fillet them.
adam ray
Wouldn't you?
If a bear's about to eat you, wouldn't you just try to fucking empty the tank?
joe rogan
Well, I guess no one's probably ever touched him before.
It's probably really exciting.
adam ray
There you go.
It's the first time to go around.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Like, imagine you just, like, blue-balled all day long.
You're so blue-balled that you just jizz in the ocean.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
On the floor.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
All they have to do is run a finger by you, and you're like...
unidentified
A gust of wind.
joe rogan
You know?
Have you ever seen where your dog is humping a leg?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And the dog is just like, they start humping the air.
adam ray
Yeah, dude.
unidentified
They're committed.
joe rogan
Now imagine a fish.
You grab them right when they're in that peak.
adam ray
In the perfect spot.
joe rogan
Peak rut.
Just squirt all over the place.
Have you ever seen a fish do that?
adam ray
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, with rainbow trout, they would do it all the time.
We'd catch them, they'd be jizzing.
adam ray
Good for them.
What a life.
joe rogan
It's a bad death, though.
adam ray
Come and then die?
joe rogan
You failed.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You failed.
adam ray
Yeah.
joe rogan
You jizzed all over the inside of a boat.
adam ray
The opposite of what you're supposed to do.
joe rogan
Not good.
But, yeah, so if that is a mermaid, like, what the hell?
What are you saying?
adam ray
That's why the Little Mermaid, I mean, she only...
Eric was only into her because she came out of the water and had some human features.
joe rogan
Exactly.
adam ray
And lost her voice.
joe rogan
Like, what the fuck are you?
adam ray
Maybe that's why he was into her.
He was like, dude, I've been dating all these...
joe rogan
You son of a bitch.
adam ray
These girls that just talk too much, and then he's like, wow, I met a girl that just doesn't even want to...
joe rogan
Super hot, can't talk, but if she does talk, you can't have sex with her because she doesn't have a vagina anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Take your pick.
Honey, you gotta use sign language.
adam ray
Wow.
joe rogan
Alright, Adam Ray, let's wrap this up.
unidentified
John, I appreciate you.
joe rogan
Tell everybody, my pleasure.
I appreciate you too.
One more time, the name of the documentary.
adam ray
The name of the documentary is called Doug.
It's on my YouTube channel where you get all the Dr. Phil Live specials.
Dr. Phil Live Tour, it's all adamraycomedy.com.
We've got October 25th in Philly, October 26th in D.C., the Beacon Theater.
joe rogan
Go ahead.
adam ray
In November 15th.
Celebrity Theater, December 6th.
San Diego Civic Theater, December 7th.
All that at AdamRayComedy.com.
My special is like and subscribe.
It's on YouTube, on my YouTube channel, dot com slash AdamRayComedy.
And then all my tour dates at AdamRayComedy.com.
Got Columbus Funny Bone coming up.
The Buckhead Theater in Atlanta.
Pittsburgh Improv this weekend, if this is out in time.
Hilarity's in Cleveland.
All at AdamRayComedy.com.
joe rogan
Website.
AdamRayComedy.com.
Okay.
And one more time, Dr. Phil's book.
adam ray
Dr. Phil...
We've got issues.
joe rogan
We've got issues.
adam ray
We've all got issues, but we've all got solutions, okay?
You could fuck a mermaid with your eyes closed, but does that mean you're going to make it in time for breakfast?
joe rogan
This is what Dr. Phil's going to use to say you can't be him anymore.
He's going to say, that's enough, you son of a bitch.
adam ray
I would never say that.
unidentified
What did you do to my reputation, you son of a bitch?
joe rogan
All right, thanks, brother.
unidentified
I appreciate you.
I appreciate you.
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