Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan dissect CIA psychedelic experiments like MKUltra, linking them to the 1970s Controlled Substances Act’s suppression of dissent—targeting Black Panthers, anti-war activists, and even altering music (e.g., Buddy Holly vs. Jimi Hendrix). Dore cites COVID-era cult-like devotion to Dr. Fauci and debunked narratives like Syria’s gas attacks, while Rogan questions Biden’s cognitive decline amid $61B Ukraine aid and Lewy body dementia theories. They critique media bias, from Ivy League-hired journalists to suppressed drugs like ivermectin, and mock establishment figures like Scarborough and Rachel Maddow. Ultimately, the episode frames systemic control—political, pharmaceutical, and psychological—as a modern power structure, blending conspiracy skepticism with calls for independent truth-seeking. [Automatically generated summary]
I don't think he's aware of so many legitimate, actual conspiracies, meaning where governments and corporations conspire against the American people, lie, twist facts, distort things.
But Kurt is one of those guys that once he finds out something, You know, because he grew up in a cult, right?
So he's in a Jehovah's Witness cult when he was young.
Sorry, Jehovah's Witnesses.
And then becomes a comedian, and he's so averse to bullshit.
Other controversial cases West was assigned to, including evaluating Sirhan Sirhan, who assassinated Robert F. Kennedy at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles June 5th, 1968. West claimed Sirhan was the subject of psychic driving.
A mind-altering technique involving hypnosis or paralytic drugs.
Psychiatrists often use barbiturates for this.
Settle the fuck down.
You used acid.
Stop lying.
What is this?
Oh, maybe possibly barbiturates or something legal.
So he writes it as an article, but then once he starts getting into the information, it's so extensive, it's so crazy, that he can't finish the article.
Because the article is just an anniversary of the Manson assassinations, the Manson killings.
So then...
Twenty years later, he finally puts out this book, and he's got enough information for another fucking book.
And it's wild.
It's all a CIA plot.
The Manson family was all...
Manson was visited in prison by Jolly West.
They trained him, allegedly, in hypnosis techniques, using LSD, how to mind control people.
He would not do the acid, but he would give the acid to the people, which is something also that apparently...
The MKUltra people trained him.
And he would get them to commit evil acts.
And the whole thing was to discredit the anti-war movement.
Yeah, so they turned hippies into something fucking terrifying.
So hippies used to be like, oh, she's a flower child.
Oh, they're peace and love, you know, cute, nice stuff.
But then they turned hippies into fucking psychotic murderers who cut babies out of movie stars' bellies and paint on the wall, pig, you know, that kind of shit.
Yes, the Psychedelic Act of 1970 was passed to go after the Black Panthers, and to go after the civil rights leaders, and to go after the anti-war movement.
Because those people were all taking drugs.
So they're eating mushrooms and trying to come to some sort of an understanding of our place in the universe.
And they said, okay, we're going to take all of these psychedelic compounds that are literally creating a cultural revolution.
So you go from the 1950s.
I always say music is the best representation of that.
And comedy as well, but really music.
If you look at Buddy Holly, great music, great stuff.
And then Jimi Hendrix is 10 years later.
What the fuck is that?
That's like a revolution.
Like, out of nowhere, something is insanely different.
And so then I would go out and buy Stacey Adams shoes.
Yeah.
I would.
And so there was this place, oh, there was a very derogatory, it was Maxwell Street in Chicago, and they used to call it, I can't say it, because it's anti-Semitic.
And so we would go down there, and you could walk into all these clothes stores, and you could bargain with them.
And I never experienced that before.
You walk in and usually the price was the price.
You go to the mall, the price is...
You can't bargain, but you can bargain.
So it was an exciting thing to do.
Me and my brothers would all go down there and you'd go into all these stores and you'd put all these clothes together and we'd start bartering.
Like, okay, how about this?
How about that?
It was fun.
I miss those days.
That's where in the Blues Brothers, remember they go down to get the black guy who's the clarinet player and...
I was doing a show the other night at the Hotel Cafe in Hollywood, and I do a joke about Joe Biden, you know, like, why don't they get a dog to leave him off stage, you know, and the people in the crowd, like, they're all like 20-something Hollywood people, and they go, aww.
And this idea that somehow it's Joe Biden's integrity and truth-telling against Donald Trump.
He lied, lied.
The first time Joe Biden ran for president, he had to drop out because he got exposed for being a pathological liar.
He said he graduated at the top of his class.
He graduated at the bottom.
He said he had three majors.
He said he was chosen the most outstanding political...
No, it was all lies.
And then he got caught plagiarizing.
Someone else, not only just their speeches, but their life story.
It was like, who does that?
And so he's been a joke, always was a joke.
And this idea, you know, the reason why black and brown had to...
I had to, you know, tell this to Cornel West when he came on my show.
Hey, the reason why black and brown people are locked up at way higher rates than their population is because of Joe Biden, not because of Donald Trump.
Donald Trump actually did the step back, right?
Which is probably why he's getting 20% of the black vote right now.
You're right.
All their narratives are falling away.
People are waking up.
And not only in America, but I do miss a time before cell phones.
Well, there used to be 50 giant media companies, so there used to be more truth that could get out, but now, because of Bill Clinton and the Telecommunications Act in 1996, we went from 50 giant media companies down to six, meaning that every TV show, every newspaper, every magazine, every radio show, it all comes from one of the six companies.
And that's why journalism sucks so much right now, because journalists used to come from blue-collar backgrounds like me, but now they know they all have to work for one of the six billionaire-owned companies, and so the billionaires handpicked those people from Ivy League schools now, and they're all going to be class loyal.
And so that's why the whole thing is, you know...
It's a great time, but also we're pitted against each other now by the media like never before, right?
Like no matter what the story is, they have their minions in the press reported in a way that makes you hate your neighbor and blame your neighbor and not the guys doing it, right?
Yeah.
So the oligarchy keeps us fighting amongst each other, and that's real.
That's not made up.
I mean, look at how they lied about...
The biggest story, like, so the Kyle Rittenhouse story, right?
Now, I hated that kid because the corporate media told me he was a white supremacist who didn't live in that community.
He traveled across state lines with guns to shoot three black people at a Black Lives Matter rally, and I hated him.
And then I watched the trial.
And it turns out he did live in that community.
He was a lifeguard in that community.
He was asked to protect a car dealership by immigrants of color because the cops wouldn't.
And he didn't travel across state lines with guns.
If you just saw him in 2019, it wouldn't be as obvious.
But if you saw him from, like, when he was running for president in 1988, which I did, did I ever tell you about Joe Biden night that we used to have at Stitches?
Stitches Comedy Club in 1988, we had Joe Biden night.
In 88. In 88. I know that's why this whole, this rehabilitation, it's all because of Trump derangement syndrome.
They have to pretend like Joe Biden's some kind of guy with integrity and dignity instead of, you know, the horrible criminal anti-worker guy that he's been his whole life.
He's been anti-student, anti-worker, and he crossed a goddamn railroad strike.
And everybody just memory holds that, that that happened.
Like, if Trump did that, it would be on billboards forever.
And, again, it's...
Joe, why do you think?
Because my whole life, the establishment loved Donald Trump, right?
I think the media took just as big a hit as Joe Biden did that night.
Because now, I mean, just a few weeks ago, there's that Joe Scarborough, that mental case on Morning Joe on MSNBC, and he was saying, let me tell you something, and if you don't believe it, F you.
He says this on...
6 in the morning.
This is what he's telling his audience.
F you.
This is the best version of Joe Biden I've ever seen.
I've always said, hey, I don't know if I'm better or worse than those people, but no one ever made an offer to buy me out, so I don't know how I would react.
Don't you think it's amazing how they fired the Arab reporters and the Muslim reporters at MSNBC because they were telling a little bit of the truth about what's happening or they were confronting people over it?
So that's just a matter of weeks in between those two jokes.
F you!
And I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.
Okay, thank God we can replace him.
I have a theory about this, by the way.
So they've never done presidential debates this early in the election season before, right?
And so my theory is that his own team sabotaged him.
They knew this.
So they wanted to get Joe Biden through the primary because now all the delegates are beholden to Joe Biden means they're beholden to the Democratic Party donor class.
Yes.
So there isn't no 50% Bernie Sanders delegates out there.
They're not going to have any trouble getting them to all coalesce at the convention and pick a new person.
So they wanted to get Joe Biden to go through, and then as soon as he got through the thing, they're like, oh, let's have a debate.
And then they knew he would look like this, so then they can have enough time to get rid of him.
That seems pretty plausible that that's what's going to happen.
And guess what's going to happen now?
So they're going to have a person at the top of the ticket who nobody voted for, because they're going to choose them at the convention, and nobody voted for this person, and they're saying democracy's on the ballot.
So, yeah, they were making it impossible for him to get on ballots.
How did they do that?
You know what?
He told me, but I can't remember.
But they were making it...
Well, when I remember the first time I had him on my show, it was like a joke.
I'm like, dude, you're running as a Democrat.
I go, why do you think they have superdelegates?
They have superdelegates for people like you.
It's not going to happen.
I can't get excited about your candidacy.
And so anything he said, I just didn't get into it, right?
I was appreciative of the stuff he was saying around COVID and things like that, but I told him it's a fool's errand, right?
And he's like, I'm a Democrat.
I've always been a Democrat.
I'm a Democrat.
And I'm like, yeah, the Democrats are going to screw you, and they did.
And so I don't know exactly how, but it got so untenable that he couldn't run inside, because they would have these different rules that they were just making up just to screw him.
So we know that there's no fucking way he's the man behind the machine.
So that means there's a bunch of people that work for him that are essentially running the country.
And those people don't want to lose that position, including his wife.
His wife apparently, by all takes, and she did an interview afterwards, Where she said he's smarter than he's ever been, and I know him, I see him buying clothes.
Because they kept saying that, oh, because the line now is that Joe might not have answered the questions quickly or loudly, but he was telling the truth.
His first answer, he lied three times.
Joe Biden.
He lied about the Medicare's...
It's $2,000.
He said it was $200.
He lied about the diabetes, and he lied about Trump saying the bleach thing.
Trump never said the bleach thing.
He was talking about ultraviolet iridation, which is a real thing that actually works.
Remember the FBI, the Comey guy came out and he said, yeah, this is going to sound crazy in a couple of different ways, but yes, we found hundreds of high-level documents, secret classified documents on her server, but we're not going to prosecute her.
There's a few, but like whenever, with any kind of large organization, there's a lot of competitive people trying to rise to the top, you're going to get unscrupulous fellas.
I know that the FBI lied to the FISA court 17 times so they could get a tap on Donald Trump's phones.
That happened.
They lied to the FISA court 17 times.
Nobody talks about that.
Nobody pays a price for that.
They did it to the goddamn...
You know, I'm sure you saw the video of when Chuck Schumer was on with Rachel Maddow, and he says, well, talking about Trump, that he's being really dumb to criticize the intelligence community, meaning the CIA and the FBI, and Rachel Maddow says, why?
And he says, because they've got six ways this Sunday to mess with you back.
So what he really was saying there, that that was the leading Democrat in the Senate, the leader of the party, he was telling people into a camera that the president, that the CIA and the FBI doesn't work for the president, that he has to worry about them.
And if they don't work for the president, who the fuck do they work for, Joe?
It's a natural thing that takes place when any organization gets extreme power.
And that was supposed to be mitigated, right?
And this is like the problem that Kennedy had with secret societies.
This is the problem that Kennedy had with the CIA and what Kennedy had with the NSA. Whenever you get people that are above everything, like this concept of the deep state, you put your tinfoil hat on when you just say the word, deep state.
Everybody who is not paying attention, people that are just reading mainstream news, you say deep state, they go, oh God, he's a QAnon guy.
No, I did that once, and it made, because I used to smoke cigarettes, and I'm like, oh, everybody started smoking cigars at one time when I first moved to Los Angeles.
Yes, and then you start growing, but now you're growing in a confused state, and you've also got this anxiety that's sometimes crippling because if you wasted a giant chunk of your life and not made any progress, and here you are a beginner at 35 years old, and you're out here in the world trying to get a regular job at 35, and nobody wants to hire you because you've been in 15 rehabilitation centers, and you got locked up for steel and hubcaps, catalytic converters, or whatever.
The thing that it does to you is it separates you from normal reality.
And that could be a positive or a negative.
If you have discipline and control and you're present and you really spend a lot of time thinking alone by yourself and meditating, you can use things to alter your state of consciousness to achieve new thoughts.
It took me from being, I was a very narrow and rigid comedian, and then it opened me up, and it made me a much better comedian is all I can say, and it worked for a long time.
And it didn't, like, take away my discipline.
Like, I still had lots of discipline comedically, and then doing my, when I started my podcast in 2008 or 9, and then my radio show, and then, so it never, I was always...
And when COVID happened, I started getting into Carl Jung and my unconscious and analyzing my dreams.
And then I realized that the...
That there is what Carl Jung calls God is a transpersonal self.
And he's the one who kind of figured out we have a collective unconscious.
So there only is one conscious.
I mean, you've done DMT and all shit, so you get all that.
But he was able to give himself like a mushroom trip when he was conscious without taking mushrooms, right?
And he would call it active imagination.
So he could go into his unconscious and confront all these things that like archetypes and God that lives in your unconscious.
And he had to have a person that was there to make sure he didn't go crazy.
And so he did this for like four years from like 1913 to 1917.
And he wrote it down on a thing called the Red Book, which he would not allow to be published for 50 years after he died.
Because he knew if people read it, it would discredit his work in psychology.
Because it sounds crazy, all this shit.
It's like he had mushroom trips and he would write it down, right?
But it was real.
And so what he did, so during those four years, he then spent the rest of his life trying to explain to people what he had learned in those four years in ways that they could understand it.
And so that's what the rest of his life was about.
And I remember they asked him, do you believe in God?
He says, I don't believe in God, I know.
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And I was like, man, that's badass when you can say shit like that.
And so he figured out that we have a collective unconscious because he would see these symbols in his dreams.
And he knew that they were meaningful, but he didn't know what they meant.
And then he started to study alchemy, which alchemy isn't what you think it is.
Alchemy was about turning a psychological lead into psychological gold, and they were onto a lot of shit.
And they had to keep it secret because of the church, I guess, and so they had to speak in code, kind of.
And so he started to read alchemy, and he started to see these symbols that were in his dreams that they had written about, and they had already figured out what it meant.
And he was like, well, how the fuck...
Could I have a dream about something?
I didn't know any...
I never read this book before.
I don't know what...
And that's how he started to figure that out.
And so that shit has happened to me.
I'll see symbols in my dreams.
This happened.
So I was...
This is going to sound crazy.
So I'm in the jungle, in a clearing, and this creature comes over to me.
It looks like a big ape.
His body's like a big gorilla, but his head is like half of a lion, half human.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
And he puts his hand out, and I'm like, oh, he's going to crush me.
But I put my hand in his hand, and he took my hand gently, and he walked me into the jungle.
And I was like, what the...
So, I tell this to my...
I have an analyst who...
Jungian analyst who helps me decipher what my dreams mean.
And he said, you know, that's an archetypal god and that was them telling you it's time for you to go into the jungle of your unconscious, but you'll be safe if you longer...
And I was like, oh, so then a month later I'm reading this book and there's that fucking thing, the ape with the lion.
I'm like, there's a...
I'm like, what?
That's the thing!
I saw in my dream!
Like, how did that show up in my dream before I ever saw it before?
It's a little personal about the situation in my waking life, but I just knew what I had to do then, right?
Once I realized that, oh, the old man, that was my transpersonal self telling me, you got to do this.
And so I had an awakening.
I outgrew this problem.
Because, you know, it was like, you know, my Jungian analyst refers to it as, you know, you're on a crucifix right now, and the only thing you can do is hold, maintain, don't make a decision, don't do one thing or the other, just hold, and then something will appear.
And that's what appeared.
It was in my dream.
It coincided with the synchronicity in me reading a book about what I was supposed to do.
So Carl Jung's all about projection, that we're projecting all the time, and that's how we get to know ourselves, right?
So like when you fall in love with someone, his big one is that you have a feminine side inside of you, and it's called your anima, if you're a guy.
And if you're a female, you have a male, and that's called your animus.
And when you fall in love with someone like, oh, you know that thing like, oh my God, I can't live without this person.
This is the thing that I've been looking for in my...
That's when you project that part of yourself, it's in your unconscious, onto that person.
And so that's a real religious experience, because you're rejoining, religion meaning to rejoin, you're joining your conscious self with your unconscious self, and that's why it feels like you're being stimulated from the inside, because you are.
And you feel this oneness and this wholeness, and if I lose this person, I'll die.
And so to the point where if I'm going to have a session with my Jungian analysis, I'll take a nap, and I know I'll have a dream or two, and I'll wake up and we talk about them.
I'm a good dreamer, especially when you quit smoking pot.
I think dreams are spiritual, whatever is in your spirit, whatever is, it's God, for lack of a better term, trying to communicate with you and talk to you through symbols.
And that's what people did during COVID with science and Fauci and all that shit.
They projected it onto that.
And luckily enough, I've been having experiences of the divine through my dreams and my dream analysis And then I also see it when you see synchronicities.
Carl Jung talked about synchronicities, which are coincidences that have meaning.
They're not just coincidences, right?
And once you start to look for them, it's like when you buy a new car, you see that car everywhere.
It's like once you start to look for synchronicities, they start to happen.
So then it's like I'm constantly in communication with God.
For lack of a better word, that's how I feel about it, right?
And so everything that happens in my dreams and in my waking life comes from the same consciousness.
Carl Jung said that the future is set up by your unconscious long in advance, which is why it can be guessed at by clairvoyance.
So anyway, so this book, the Red Book, that he wrote down his experiences for those four years where he could give himself like a mushroom trip, it finally got published in 2010. And I'm not even able to read it.
Like, I just look at it and it's just like super confusing and it looks like crazy talk.
So what I do is I read books that he wrote up after he had that experience.
And I read books by other Jungian scholars explaining shit because it's...
He's dense, man.
He puts a lot of info in a little bit.
Like, it took me a week just to...
I was reading a book called The Mysterium Canuncho that he wrote, and it took me like a week, just the opening paragraph, just to keep going, like, what the fuck?
Just write, what did Carl Jung believe about UFOs?
See, does it say here?
Okay, let's just say, in the late 50s, the height of the popular fascination with UFOs, flying saucers, is the great psychologist's brilliant, prescient meditation on the phenomenon that gripped the world.
A self-confessed skeptic in such matters, Jung was nevertheless intrigued, not so much by their reality or unreality, but by their psychic aspect.
He saw flying saucers as a modern myth in the making to be passed down the generations just as we have received such myths from our ancestors.
In this wonderful and enlightening book, Jung sees UFOs as visionary rumors, the center of a quasi-religious cult, and carriers of our technological and salvationist fantasies.
Forty years later, with entire religions based on the writings of science fiction authors, it is remarkable to see just how right he has proved to be.
Yeah, I think the people the best book to start with Carl Jung is memories dreams reflections, which is his biography and he wrote And that that he you know, he let you in a little because he was he was more than a psychologist He was a mystic.
I've never done DMT. It does make sense that a person like that, that is trying to understand how the human mind works, would have to take into account all sorts of bizarre things like UFO sightings, psychic experiences, dream states, endogenous psychedelic experiences.
There's a bunch of different ways you can...
Reliably achieve psychedelic states without any drugs.
One of them that I've done recently, even, is holotropic breathing.
And if you do holotropic breathing, you have what's almost like a mushroom trip.
Google holotropic breathing so you can get, I don't butcher the definition of it, but also a lot of people do breathing exercises in sensory deprivation tanks, which provides very vivid psychedelic experiences with no drugs at all.
Vigorous modality known as holotropic breathwork is offered at the end of an eight month training, eight months before they get you the holotropic breathing, to provide a lawful taste of the therapeutic potential and pitfalls of altered states of consciousness.
So Dr. J.J. Purcell, a naturopathic doctor from Oregon, was amongst the trainees who walked into the early October session skeptical that a couple hours of intense breathing could induce anything close to a psychedelic trip, but she was stunned.
The depth of what I experienced was so similar to psilocybin, Dr. Purcell marveled, referring to the psychoactive compound in magic mushrooms.
And long breaths, I... When I'm doing that, I'm only allowing those words in my head.
The other ones are getting in there, but I'm pushing them out.
Get out of the door!
I'm the bouncer.
And then eventually I can achieve this very strange state.
This very strange state that with your eyes closed, you start seeing patterns.
You see this like weird sort of like matrix, like for lack of a better term, almost like a geometric grid of the world.
And usually I fall asleep when I'm doing that.
But I can stay awake.
It takes a while.
It might take 15-20 minutes of doing that.
But you get in there.
And I know that people that do Kundalini Yoga.
I have a friend who did Kundalini Yoga and he has also done DMT. He said, it is the exact same place.
You can absolutely get there.
You just have to be rigorous.
You have to practice it for a long time.
But they have a specific type of nodding and bobbing they do with intense breath work.
That gets you to this endogenous dump of psychedelic chemicals.
So one of the reasons why it's so insane that that sweeping 1970s psychedelic drug act took place Is not just that they used it to target civil rights leaders and anti-war movement people and the Black Panthers and anybody that was inconvenient, but also that it stopped us from being able to explore what these things are.
So one of the terms that psychedelics use, that people, when they talk about psychedelics, it's one of the more lofty terms, is entheogen.
And what entheogen means, essentially, it's like this is something that connects you to God.
Like, what is the term entheogen?
What is the actual – what's the literal translation of entheogen?
But that this is what they think – here it is – a chemical substance, typically a plant origins, that is ingested to produce a non-ordinary state of consciousness for religious or spiritual purposes.
I think that's what most religions are based on.
I think they're based on either an understanding of how to achieve psychedelic states endogenously or people coming into contact with psilocybin, Amanita Muscaria.
There's a variety of different things that they probably came in contact with.
There's scholars out of Jerusalem now that believe that The interpretation from Moses in the burning bush, that that burning bush was probably the acacia tree, and the acacia tree is rich in DMT. Now, it just completely makes sense that burning a bush that is rich in DMT would connect Moses to God, and God would give Moses these commandments for how mankind should live.
That completely makes sense.
Well, it's probably a psychedelic experience, and there's probably a bunch of different ways to get them.
I think that's what monks are doing when they're spending the entire day isolated and meditating.
I think that's why they're willing to keep doing it.
I think that's why they're willing to stay.
Everybody's like, oh, those poor bastards.
Look at them.
No pussy.
Dressed like a retard.
Like, look at them.
This stupid fucking orange robe.
But those people, I think, are connecting to something.
Some other state that is more exciting than this one that we're kind of trapped in.
I think we operate under the biological dimension.
That's where our thing moves around, under the biological dimension.
And all of our senses are tuned into the biological dimension because it involves injury and death and illness and crime and injustice and all these different things that can get you all ramped up in the biological dimension.
But we're also connected to something else.
And you can define that thing.
You can call it things.
You can call it heaven, the well of souls.
You can call it a bunch of different things.
I think calling it anything is a problem because we don't know what the fuck it is.
But whatever it is, I think there's a bunch of different ones and Terence McKenna described it as a mandala.
Like that there's like a mandala of different psychedelic experiences that the human body and the human mind is capable of experiencing.
And that there's all sorts of different ones.
You're going to a different neighborhood.
And that these chemical gateways that get you into these states, that's what these psychedelic drugs are.
We're looking at it like, oh, he's just escaping reality.
I think they're chemical gateways.
I think they're chemical gateways into other dimensions, into some other realm that you cannot get there with this thing that's worried about, oh, I'm getting a belly.
It's because of your ego.
Yeah, ego.
And just the reality of having to pay your bills and keep the lights on.
There's just too much weird shit here that distracts you.
Joe Biden's fine.
He's the best version of Joe Biden ever seen.
You're driving to work going, I'm in the upside down world.
Well, Jesus said, there's a quote, that the kingdom of my father is laid upon the earth, but the eyes of men don't see it.
So, yeah, so we're creating our own hell, right?
And it's, I think, over-identification with the ego mind, you know, which is different than, you know, you got a big ego.
That's different.
The ego mind is like what you're conscious of, your idea of who you are.
And then the things that you don't like, according to Jung, you split them off and you put them into your unconscious.
So when people who hate...
Trump, like when you see people who have Trump derangement syndrome, that's because they're projecting that part of themselves that is like Trump onto him.
And so then they can hate that.
And that when you have a big reaction to something external, whether it's you love something intensely or you hate something intensely, that tells you it's about you.
I never hated Trump.
I hated the system that got us Trump.
I tried to keep my focus on...
It was because Barack Obama bailed out the banks and kicked 5.1 million families out of their homes and then went on to give us a right-wing fucking healthcare plan that was a giveaway to Big Pharma and insurance company and he didn't really help.
That's what laid the groundwork for people to go for someone like Trump.
That always does.
So when people hate...
The people who hate Trump the most are people who have split off that part of themselves that is Trump and put it in their unconscious, and then they're experiencing them themselves as they project it onto him.
You know those people.
I know a lot of those people.
You know, like Rob Reiner, you know, like Bill Maher.
Now, Kurt's convinced that Robert De Niro's on some kind of Epstein list or some kind of thing like that, and then he's afraid that if Trump does get power, he's going to expose him, and he is actually going to come at him.
I think the only friends they have are Hollywood phonies.
And so you're in this weird world where everybody you talk to is a phony, and you become a phony, and everyone's a phony, and your grasp on reality is very slippery, and your eyes are going, right?
So your vision of the world, your actual vision of the world, your ability to read a phone.
You ever see old people's text messages?
The fucking text on their phone is like as big as my hand?
And so your vision of the world is blurring, literally and figuratively, and then you're getting old, and when old people are tired and cranky, They just want everyone to listen to them and they don't have time to have a calm conversation and you state out your opinion.
I'll state my opinion.
Let's see where we have common ground.
Get off my lawn!
And that's what he's doing.
That's what he's doing.
He's being this old grumpy man that is so lost that he thinks it's a good idea to stand in front of a bunch of people on the street and give a speech on camera about how bad Donald Trump is.
And then, of course, nobody knows how this war started.
You've had Dave Smith on.
He explained it.
Nobody still to this day knows about the Maidan coup, that the United States got in bed with right-wing Nazis in Ukraine to overthrow democratically elected government.
And then they started bombing the people in the east of Ukraine, called the Donbass, and they wouldn't stop.
They had two peace agreements called the Minsk Accords.
Guess who violated them?
Ukraine.
And so, you know, I've heard people say that.
And then, of course, it was the expansion of NATO, right?
The threat of putting NATO on the border of Russia, which everybody from Kissinger to Chomsky and everybody in between said, that's a mistake.
Don't do that.
That's, of course, what they're doing.
And so what's the point of NATO anymore?
And then this whole idea, they're doing the domino theory again.
Oh, well, if we allow him to do this to Ukraine, he's going to go to Poland next.
It's the same fucking shit they said all the time.
It's the domino theory.
And again, the world's terrorists are the United States.
Look what we did to Iraq.
Look what we did to Libya.
Libya, the most successful country in all of Africa.
The guy created the eighth wonder of the world with the way how he delivered water and turned deserts into farmland.
And everybody had a house and everybody had education and healthcare.
And we turned it into a failed state run by terrorists with open slave markets.
Who did that?
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did that.
And they'll never have to pay a price for that.
Barack Obama, the most they'll do is go, that was a mistake.
And when I was at the Young Turks, I would tell those people, those knuckleheads at the Young Turks, when they were Russiagating, I'd go, you know they're going to use this for a war.
And that's exactly what, they knew they were doing that.
They knew that they were getting people mentally ready for a war with Russia.
And right now it's a proxy war with Russia.
That's what this is.
And of course they did it.
And of course if you say something, they call you a Putin puppet.
Just like you were an Assad toady.
If you said something, the truth about Syria, like Tulsi Gabbard was saying.
Or if you said the truth, remember, I mean, if you said there weren't weapons of mass destruction, you were called a traitor.
It's the fucking never ends.
It's the same playbook and people fall for it every time.
And it's because we are the most propagandized country ever.
In the world!
You think China is?
You know, when people in China watch the news, they know it's propaganda.
In the old Soviet Union, people knew that was propaganda.
The difference between that and now is people in America, they think they're watching the news when they turn on Fox, CNN, MSNBC. And isn't it weird?
It never clicks to anybody that when Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity are telling you the same thing about Ukraine, my spidey sense is like, oh, this is fucking bullshit.
Yes, it is!
Yes, when they're telling you the same thing about COVID or vaccines or lockdown, doesn't your spidey senses go out that this has got to be bullshit?
So they all agree, again, just like the Republicans and Democrats, they all agree on the worst of things, right?
They all agree on war.
They all agree on screwing workers.
They all agree on keeping us having the most expensive healthcare in the world.
They all agree on not doing anything to fix homelessness and not investing in our own infrastructure.
So they agree on all the worst things.
It's like...
It's like having two divorced parents, but they both agree on sending you to military school.
And I think shows like yours and these shows that are online now that aren't beholden to a corporation, that are independent shows, that can actually connect the dots with knowledgeable people that actually understand the history behind everything.
I knew because Robert Fisk had done reporting on the ground.
He was one of the most decorated war reporters in Europe.
And it didn't make any sense on its face that Assad, who was winning the war at the time, would do the one thing Barack Obama said if he crossed that red line and used chemical weapons.
He would then go do it.
And they only killed like 50 people at a time with a chemical weapon.
So why the fuck would he do that?
Of course that was a false flag done by...
And then the OPCW... So the OPCW, which is the Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons, right.
And so they used to be considered, you know, nonpartisan and non-captured.
And they would go in and they would, if there was a chemical weapon used, they would go in and they would do a report.
Well, of course, they got captured, right, by NATO in the billionaire class.
And so they go in, they do their report, and they're like, oh yeah, it was Assad, he did it.
But then the whistleblowers came out and said, no, that's not what happened.
They suppressed the engineer's report, they suppressed this report.
These canisters were laid there.
This wasn't dropped from a helicopter.
So it was all bullshit, right?
So, of course, Assad didn't do that, right?
And so I was on to that first, and then Aaron Maté came back, and he did meticulous reporting on it.
He's written at least 10 articles on it, which nobody will ever debunk.
Nobody, because they can't, right?
And he...
So, anyway, so...
And Russiagate, I knew immediately Russiagate was bullshit, because I brought on Bill Binney, who was the number, NSA's number one code breaker for decades and decades, and he came on and he explained to me that they didn't hack into that DNC server that was downloaded locally, right?
And now we know that, how much shit, they wrote a smear piece about me in the Washington Post, because I was asking logical questions about what happened with Seth Rich.
Hey, where was he from the time he left the bar to the time he got home?
You're not allowed to ask ethical questions about a guy that WikiLeaks said leaked them information that DNC was conspiring to keep Bernie Sanders out of the primary.
In fact, the head of the Washington Post went into the newsroom, this is like a month ago, and I don't know how it got leaked out that he said, hey, nobody's reading your shit anymore.
People are done with the corporate news, hopefully.
Well, that's why you saw that I can't think of her name, that idiot from the Washington Post who covers social media.
People don't think that independent news can replace it, but I 100% think it can.
And I think it has more of a likelihood of doing that because if you can get independent journalists that now they can develop substacks and podcasts and they can go and do things on their own and they get funded They don't need anyone else anymore, so then they can tell the truth, right?
So they're not beholden to some enormous corporation.
If a podcast had a building like CNN's building in Atlanta, I'd start getting nervous.
I'd be like, hey, how much overhead is this?
How are you guys paying the bills?
You got so many people working here, and your show sucks.
You have nobody watching, and there's so many people.
Imagine a show that gets a podcast that gets that few views, but as who knows how many hundreds of employees, giant buildings, They're on an airport, so you get zero views.
So I got invited on that show, and I turned it down a few times, and my assistant was like, hey, look, they really want you to do this show.
And so I was talking to my friend Jackson Hinkle, and I said, yeah, Don Lemon keeps inviting me on the show.
He goes, you gotta go!
And I'm like, it would just be me trying to insult him, you know?
It would just be me saying how shitty he is and how he's the, you know, because I had just gotten done doing a rant about Chris Cuomo talking about ivermectin, but still lying about it.
And he goes, yeah, that would be fun to watch you do that.
And I go, okay, I'll do it.
So I told my assistant, I could tell him I'll do the show.
So we set it up.
And I go, just me.
I go, I'm not going on with anyone else.
I'm not having a debate with another asshole and Don Lemon.
I go, I'll just go on with Don Lemon.
And they agreed to it.
And so the morning we were supposed to do the show, an hour show, just me, they canceled.
Well, he should be, if he wants to become successful, being an independent person, he's going to have to engage in conversations with people he disagrees with.
It was used for human beings for 12 fucking years.
Before they ever used it for veteran medicine.
Don Lemon, you fucking moron.
It's just so – the idea that these talking heads who they had on CNN should be some sort of a moral compass and an ethical compass for the rest of us is so fucking stupid and so insulting, especially when you see these people on their own.
So when you see these people on their own, like when you see Dave Smith – Debating Chris Cuomo and just fucking nuking him.
And then you see Don Lemon doing his show and you go, okay, this is who you guys are.
For real, for real.
This is the real for real.
When you see fucking Brian Stelter doing that WEF thing, hiking up his skirt for those lizard people.
The whole thing is like, this is who you really were.
This is you guys.
You surviving on your own in this independent platform, good luck, because this platform is transparent.
They're gonna see you for who you are.
No producers, no fuckin' scripts you're gonna read off of.
They've been out in front on the free, like, we're not going to censor you whatever the fuck you want.
That's up to you and your audience.
And I'm like, oh my God.
And so I travel around the country and nobody's fucking heard of Rumble.
I mean, except- More people have now than ever before.
People are starting, and so I tried to talk to them, and they're like, hey, why don't you finance a show and a soundstage for me, and we could compete with Bill Maher, and instead of real time, we'll call it rumble time, and we'll put a billboard up in Times Square right across the street from where Bill does his fucking show, and this would be like- It's a good idea.
And they were on board, but I guess it was too much money.
I don't know how much money they had.
It wasn't that much.
It's like- I got it down to like 90,000 an episode.
For like a real thing that would look exactly as good as Bill Maher, which you know that costs a couple million dollars an episode, right?
Well, he's gotten other things wrong, but that one thing was a big one.
And that one thing changed.
Maybe they did.
I mean, it could have been that they did.
I do think that that is something that does happen.
One of the things when something happens is people.
And I don't know if it's...
Human beings or if it's groups of its foreign groups They will concoct a fake narrative and try to get people to share it Like they'll try to fool people into sharing a fake version of some real thing that happened and I think they do that to undermine people that are conspiracy theorists that are occasionally correct and So if you can get a conspiracy theorist who's occasionally correct and get them a bunch of bad information,
foolish information, and convince them on a website, polls, get a bunch of people involved that also believe it, you know, I think that's where Flat Earth got started.
And you get all these people, like, sharing things and believing things, and then if this person, they take the bait, and they'll go, this is what we're hearing.
We're hearing this is a false flag.
And then next thing you know, like, we got them.
We got them.
And if you're a guy like Alex Jones, who at the time was Legitimately experiencing what you would call like a psychotic break.
He was breaking.
You know, the guy was drinking like crazy and, you know, when you're uncovering real conspiracies all day long every day, which is what he does.
The news, when they were lying about certain things, how much damage did they do?
I've always said this, that imagine if...
The news people were skeptical about the vaccine.
The news people were skeptical about not being able to use off-label medications at a doctor's discretion, especially ones that have been actually shown to stop viral replication in vitro.
And there's a history of success in using these things in other countries.
Like Urdar Pradesh in India.
There's a bunch of different things that were going on simultaneously, and yet they're still being stopped.
Wouldn't the real news imagine, if the real news is like, hold on, it seems like there's special interests involved here, and there's a financial incentive to push this one thing, which is what they have to do in order to get the Emergency Use Authorization Act.
There can't be any valid pharmaceutical drugs that are available currently that we could prescribe.
That's the only way you can get some new thing to pass through.
Imagine if that was the news.
And podcasters were like, it's safe and effective.
If you get it, you won't get sick.
If you get it, you won't share it to anybody else.
The virus stops with you.
And then there are no, there's none, all this talk about side effects, it's not true.
It's not true.
I've never seen a single person that had a bad reaction to this new experimental gene therapy.
Imagine if it was the podcasters.
We would all be in the news.
We would all be getting sued.
They would use it to shut us down.
That would be the misinformation that they would feed us to get us to say stupid shit so that we would endanger people's lives and ruin people's health and they would shut us down.
If you give them to enough people, you're going to have side effects.
And then when you have a new one, and then when you understand how they're allowed to do studies, and how they're allowed to throw out all the studies that show it does harm, or it doesn't work, or it's not effective, and then you fucking finagle the numbers in a way that you can push it, I think we're going to see a real improvement here.
So, what I say is that when you see Boeing advertising on Meet the Press or Pfizer advertising on CNN, they're not funding the news organization's investigation.
They're funding their non-investigation.
Right?
They're like, this is money so you don't fucking investigate us.
Exactly.
And the people who do, like my friend Anita Krishna in Canada, she worked for a, I forget the name of the global news, or some big news network in Canada, and so she started to ask just regular questions.
And she got fired.
And she videotaped her session where they fire her.
You know, like, hey, why are you...
She's like, isn't that what we're supposed to be doing?
We're a news organization.
Aren't we supposed to be asking the questions why there's all these miscarriages that are happening at the hospital?
Aren't we supposed to be asking about the explosion of cancer?
I don't know, but that's what I read in that Midwestern Doctors article, and he explains it all.
It is mind-blowing.
And so I was trying to get some of this, right?
You can only get it underground, right?
So there's certain doctors that make it in certain parts of the country, and they give it to soldiers who have PTSD. And they do it, but if they get caught, they're in trouble, because they made it a Schedule I drug.
It's sold in some countries as a sleeping pill, but it's illegal in the United States because it can cause extreme drowsiness or blackouts often used in date rapes.
And when you realize that you can't trust them for medical advice, you're like, wait, what?
When you have a doctor telling you that you should get vaccinated after you just got over being sick, and you were only sick for a couple days, and you have two people that you know that had strokes from the vaccine, and you're like, wait, what?
They're a bunch of narcissists that all live in this stupid bubble where they're trying to get validation from people by virtue signaling.
That's all those people were.
A bunch of cowards and weirdos and they all turned on everybody.
And they generally turned on people that are more successful than them.
That's what it's really all about.
The heart of it.
It's signaling to your tribe that you are compliant, you're a part of the groupthink, and then attacking the people that are above you that are doing more successfully, that are more successful with their career than you.
That's all it was.
And all the people that did it are all terrible comedians.
They're all mediocre, sad...
Narcissists that wish they got more attention than they got.
They think they didn't get what they deserve.
They think they should be getting more.
They're angry at people that are getting attention.
Isn't it amazing that every day there's a new study from South Korea that just came out that said there's a link between the COVID vax and Alzheimer's, right?
And nobody will talk about it.
Where are the comedians coming out with the same people who always were debunking the COVID narrative?
My friend Brian Simpson has a brilliant joke about it, and I'm not going to quote it, but what he's essentially saying is that it appears that this is a liberal city because you're surrounded by red Texas.
Yeah, babies should be trans, you know, all that shit.
That's not here.
Like, this is a different version.
Because it's so tempered.
Like, one of the things they always say about Austin is keep Austin weird and surrounded.
So when people say weird, weird is okay, but keep it weird and surrounded.
You're surrounded by ranchers with guns.
It's fucking hard-working people that aren't buying any bullshit because they get up at 530 in the morning to take care of their cows like they're not fucking around here, man These are there's a different kind of people and they're nice and they're informed and that's the thing about this town that's different It's like it's it's they're much more informed.
You're gonna get your liberal loonies here You get your people walking on the street with masks on you get you get a lot of crazy shit here you get your free Palestine Marches and you know you get a lot of nutty people but It's a more tempered environment.
I'll have a dream where one of my biggest haters, someone who attacks me on public and social media and stuff like that, I'll meet them in my dream and I don't have any animosity but what I can see in them is where their hatred for me comes from and it comes from their pain and their insecurity and a lot of time it's jealousy like you were saying and I can see it And so I don't have any animosity towards them in my dream,
and I have compassion for them.
Having compassion for someone who hates you, I have it.
And then when I wake up, it doesn't go away.
It stays with me.
And it's like this gift from my unconscious, my transpersonal self, God.
I should have filmed it because I worked out six days later.
I did ten rounds on the heavy bag because I wanted to find out if I felt good and I felt fine.
Wouldn't you be more interested in how someone got better if you really wanted the world to be a healthier place?
You'd be like, what did that guy do that's different?
He's just telling you what he did and he got better and he wasn't vaccinated.
So what did he do that's different?
Wouldn't that be what the news wants?
But no.
When the news is controlled by giant corporations, that is an uncomfortable truth.
That is a real problem, having that narrative out there that there's someone out there that can get healthy without taking this thing that we're telling everybody they have to take.
But if it worked, why would you care if I took it if you took it?
You can't get it.
So you just, let me get sick.
Let me be a dummy that just gets sick and recovers.
Which most people did.
That's the other thing.
They wanted to pretend that like 10% of the people were dying and the hospitals were overrun.
So, and then as soon as Bill Gates cashed in his stock, he saw this, right?
He starts shitting on the facts.
Well, you know, we didn't know that it had a low fatality rate, the virus had a low fatality rate, and that the vaccine, it wasn't long-lasting, and it didn't block transmission or contraction, and so we gotta do better.
So they put Julian Assange in prison, right, in Belmarsh, and Rachel Maddow does Russiagate, lies about Ukraine, lies about Libya, lies about Syria, and she gets $100,000 a day.
Why wouldn't someone like Mark Cuban, who brags about he loves his jet collection, like why wouldn't he just send a jet over there to take care of him?
Rav Avora, this young kid who's a journalist who's really good, and he's gone back and forth with them to the point where Mark Cuban has to step out of the chat.
He just gets clowned.
It's just weird that a person that that busy would choose to engage with people in one of the poorest ways to communicate.
Like to go back and forth in argument with people on Twitter.
You just want to post things.
And you have something that you feel like is on your mind.
Like, I'll post that.
But when you start arguing with people on Twitter...
It's like a sign of mental illness to be arguing with people all day on Twitter, in my opinion.
I think when I see people arguing with people on Twitter, I'm like, oh, that's a person that's wracked with anxiety.
That's a truly unhealthy person.
There's no way you can't be.
You're going back and forth with people.
You feel it.
You're a human being.
If you're in conflict, and you're trying to get one up on the person in every fucking tweet, and you're checking your Twitter every five minutes to see who's responded and how it's doing.
And then your wife's upset, and your kid's, Daddy, can we play?
Hold on!
Hold on!
You're in the middle of tweeting.
It's fucking manic stuff.
It's not good for you.
It's bad for you.
It's a bad way to communicate.
The best way to communicate is civilly in front of a person.
That's the best way.
Even though you're yelling and screaming at a person right in front of you, that feels bad too.
You should be able to, as a grown adult, have a civil conversation with people where you could disagree with, even really disagree with something, but just keep a professional, polite tone.
Well, it's the opposite of what the progressive movement is supposed to be all about.
The progressive movement is all supposed to be about intelligent, well-educated, compassionate people that have a better perspective of how things are and what causes people to live in unfortunate circumstances and the inefficiencies of so many government organizations and the importance of the working class community.
That's what it's supposed to be about.
Being kind and helping people and supporting workers and rights and all those things.
That's what it originally was.
But the problem is, with any ideology, if you have to have a rigid adherence, To whatever the ideology states, whatever the doctrine is, that can shift to the point where it's no longer even a progressive value and you call yourself a progressive, yet you support all these ideas.
But it just shows you that what we're talking about, it's just the ideology.
It's just a cult.
And there's two cults in this country.
There's the right-wing cult and the left-wing cult.
And there's a bunch of people that are centrists.
There's a bunch of people that have like a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and they're kind of in the middle, and they're kind of like a left-leaning conservative or right-leaning progressive, and they're confused, and they don't know what to think.
And I think the majority of people are kind of really, if you isolated them and get them out of their tribal thinking, the way they look at the world, if it could be explained to them in a kind way, most people are in the center.
Most people.
I generally think most people are.
But the people on the far left are so fucking crazy, and the people that are on the far right are so fucking crazy, that if you're on the left, you see the people on the far right, well, I'm not that fucking person, so I must be on the left.
And then if you're on the right and you go, yeah, but I'm kind of like pretty open-minded when it comes to a lot of social issues.
But then you see Antifa, you go, well, what the fuck?
I'm not with those people.
I must be right-wing.
And then you have this chaos that we have currently.
And the thing is that people don't realize, I've told you this before, when people say, oh we have to organize along class lines, that means organizing with Trumpers!
The workers.
That's what Christian Smalls did on Staten Island when he organized the first union in Amazon, right?
He didn't go down there and go, hey, who here is for LGBTQ? Hey, who here is a gun nut?
You're out.
Who's for freedom of speech?
You're out.
He just went, who's here to get together?
We have an economic interest to oppose the man.
You with me?
That's how you fucking organize.
You come around...
And you don't have all these things that exclude.
It's all about excluding people.
And by the way, I found out that all this trans stuff, it's all come from the top down.
It doesn't come from the bottom up.
I figured this out when I saw that Larry Fink, the head of BlackRock, talk about enforcing ESG and DEI. And so that's because those companies are the ones who are raping the planet and screwing everybody.
But then they stick a gay pride flag on what they're doing so they can wrap themselves in a patina of virtue.
And that's all that is.
And that's coming.
And it's also great because it keeps us divided.
So if we're fighting over bathrooms and people competing in sports and swimming and all that, then we're not our eyes off the ball.
The playbook is keep the people distracted and divided.
That's always been the playbook.
And then while we're in the middle of these international conflicts that are baffling to everybody involved, and you're wondering how they have all this money to do that, but they don't have any money to address all the problems that we have.
How about the people in Maui?
Imagine being a person in Maui that lost your home, they give you $700, and then you still can't rebuild.
Yeah, extreme heat is fucking insane, what it does to cars.
And also, cars are filled with oil.
Oil and gasoline, the kind of heat that you get off of a burning vehicle is extraordinary.
Fires are one thing, like a wood fire, but a fire of a car that's filled with 30 gallons of gas and has rubber tires, that heat is fucking extraordinary.
Yeah, fire from gasoline and everything in a car is made out of plastic.
Think about if you have vinyl seats and plastic grommets and all these different plastic pieces that are on your sides, you know, your A columns and all that's plastic.
The fucking steering wheel's plastic.
The dashboard's plastic.
All that shit goes up and, bro, you better get the fuck out of the way.
- Yeah, the tick. - I think it's gonna look like something like that.
We have to have a way to...
We've got to make...
You know, like January 6th, which was, you know, freaking instigated by the FBI. We know that.
I'd love to see the guy who was the congressman.
He was interviewing the head, Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI. And he said, did you have any FBI assets inside the Capitol before the breach dressed up like MAGA people?
And he says, I can't answer that.
And the congressman goes, the answer should be no!
It should be no!
So that was an attempt to criminalize Trump and criminalize his political movement.
The same grand jury, the same RICO statute that they used to indict Donald Trump in Atlanta, they used to also, same RICO statute, same grand jury, to indict the Stop Cop City protesters.
And, you know, when I made that case to Cornel West, I go, do you see the game that's being played now?
Because they're not only criminalizing their political opponents in the United States, they're doing that all around the world.
They did that in Pakistan.
So Imran Khan, the guy who stood up and said, people of Pakistan do not want to go along with NATO's wars anymore.
He immediately threw him in jail.
Now he's a criminal.
They did the same thing they did in Brazil.
They didn't want Lula to be president, so they threw him in jail, right?
And so they thought the center-right guy was going to win.
But then the far-right guy, Bolsonaro, won the Trump of Brazil.
They're like, oh, fuck, what do we do?
So they had to let Lula back out of prison because he's the only one who could beat him.
And then once they beat him, they then made it illegal for Bolsonaro to ever run for president again.
It's like they're trying to do to Trump right now, four different, 92 felony, so they bullshit charges against them.
I don't know the ins and outs.
I know they did.
I know they did that.
So that's what, so I think people need to wake up to that and wake up to, if anybody, you know, if anybody catches on fire and that is a problem for the establishment, they criminalize.
Look what they did to the goddamn Russell Brand, for fuck's sake.
Yeah.
So immediately if you get a voice and you become a problem for the establishment, that's the new game.
They just criminalize you now.
And everybody goes along with it.
Can you believe how people go along with it?
They say that what they are currently doing to Donald Trump, they say he's going to do that to us.
We've already, this whole idea that somehow he's, isn't that kind of mind-blowing?
How do people not, well, Andrew Cuomo was on the Bill Maher show, and he admitted that they should have never brought that case, and that if he was the Attorney General, he would have never did it.
And the only reason that case was ever brought was because it was, Donald Trump was the center of it.
He's acting on a bunch of different experts that are telling him what to do, including letting people that have COVID back in the nursing homes, which turns out to be devastating.
And then also the use of...
Ventilators, which they thought was important.
We thought we needed a bunch of...
Turns out it killed people.
It killed some bizarre number, like 80% of the people they put on ventilators wound up dying.
And I think she knows the way to get Trump back in the White House and straighten this country out is to keep her husband, Joe Biden, running.
There's no way she thinks he's okay.
So something's going on.
What conspiratorially, pretend to be Kurt Metzger for a moment, and what do you think?
If you had to say, why would she want him in?
You would say, well, because she thinks maybe he can win, even though he's demented, and maybe she can stay in power, but also maybe he doesn't get prosecuted.
So this is my question about the recent Supreme Court ruling about the presidential immunity.
If I was in the Democratic Party and I looked at what's going on with Donald Trump, and I looked at the very real possibility that Donald Trump might get back into the White House, I would say, listen, all this Burisma stuff, this is big-time shit.
There's a lot of evidence.
Not a little bit of evidence, like the Trump thing.
Not 34 charges of felonies, which is just a misdemeanor, that's just 34 different checks he wrote for a porn star, which is, what a cheap bastard.
Did you see the contrast between the debate in 2012 with Barack Obama and Mitt Romney?
Because that was his bad night?
No, no, no.
Just the way they spoke with each other.
There's a video that shows the contrast between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama speaking so cordially and professionally and graciously to each other in 2012 and then 2024 with Trump and Biden going at each other.
Well, because the young people are all, you know, there's all a bunch of ex-girlfriends and ex-husbands out there that are talking shit about them and they're terrified to run.
And if they have real leadership qualities, they probably have a bunch of disgruntled former employees and a bunch of people they can call upon.
They can make up stories.
They can concoct narratives.
If you're not chosen to be in that position, you want to buck the system.
And he talks about all the different things that people will mistake it for Alzheimer's and will mistake it for Parkinson's, but it's really this Lewy body disorder thing.
It's like all these people, even like Pierre Corey, he's like, I didn't realize how corrupt the medical field is and how they control the medical journals and they can just make a study that will disprove a drug is good and they'll just do it wrong, say it's bad.
In 1973, he says, he was smoking joints before breakfast, drinking 20 beers a day, and sharing a heavy cocaine habit with Brenda, a freelance talent coordinator for Hollywood production companies.
And she talks about how his last special, when she walked into the green room, and he turned around, it was like he had aged 10 years from the last time she had seen him, and he looked like this old man, and he was shorter, and he was bent over, and...
And yeah, he did seem like Biden, how Biden aged like that.
I'd have to set my alarm for like a half hour before I had to get out of bed and I would take them and then wait for them to kick in so I could get out of bed.
So it's funny, like, I'll do two shows, and so the first show is sober, and then the second show, I remember I was in Chicago doing a live show with the video, and the second show, I was a little hammered.