April 12, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Showing my day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! | ||
| On In Sketches. | ||
| I can save for the air, but... | ||
| We're on the air. | ||
| Oh, we are on the air. | ||
| Yeah, we're rolling. | ||
| I just turned my monitor around because I could see myself and I didn't want to be, but what in sketches... | ||
| I'll just open up with a Chappelle story, because that's what everybody thinks I do anyway. | ||
| Dave would be watching himself on the monitor. | ||
| And I'd be like, I don't know, man, just be in it. | ||
| And then I'd tell the cameraman to turn around. | ||
| He'd be like, did Neil tell you to turn around? | ||
| So he couldn't watch himself. | ||
| It just felt like, if you're doing Rick James, maybe just be Rick James, not see yourself as Rick James. | ||
| Maybe, like, affirmed as Rick James. | ||
| Well, yeah, Rick James would look at a monitor. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| In that character, I would imagine. | ||
| That's actually a good move. | ||
| By the way, rest in peace, OJ Simpson. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Rest in peace, OJ. Juice. | ||
| We lost the juice today. | ||
| We love you, Juice. | ||
| Juice, we love you. | ||
| Sam Tripoli posted something on Twitter today. | ||
| It was OJ Simpson. | ||
| It just said, I did it. | ||
| He posted it on Instagram. | ||
| But I guarantee you that that's fake. | ||
| It looks like a fake tweet. | ||
| There's a video of a compilation of Norm doing OJ jokes. | ||
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And it's 11 minutes. | |
| And I watched it. | ||
| I watched it and then went back and started. | ||
| It's so glorious. | ||
| It was so relentless. | ||
| He was so good. | ||
| He was so fucking funny. | ||
| We're talking about OJ. Norm was so fucking funny, and the glint in his eyes, and half the time he was bombing on SNL because it wasn't really his crowd, and he didn't care. | ||
| He did not care, and he kind of got fired for it. | ||
| Well, he had a view. | ||
| He had a frequency that he was on. | ||
| And comics loved it and the audience loved it, but yeah, it wasn't necessarily SNL. Yeah, the audience's home liked it. | ||
| Yeah, it's 11 minutes of Norm just like, and then this stare after the punchline as it's either working or not. | ||
| It's just glorious. | ||
| That's skinny Norm. | ||
| Look how skinny he is there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Suit too big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah, they didn't, it wasn't like, well, well, uh, it wasn't like lauded within SNL's story. | ||
| It was like his own, like, gorilla unit, him and this guy Jim Downey, who wrote kind of all of it themselves. | ||
| Well, SNL seems like they handicapped themselves, like they're handcuffing themselves. | ||
| Back then it was... | ||
| Less. | ||
| Less back then, but now, for sure. | ||
| I haven't watched very much. | ||
| Me and Jost are friends. | ||
| I just haven't seen it in a long time. | ||
| He's funny. | ||
| Yeah, Jost is very funny. | ||
| But I haven't seen it. | ||
| Yeah, I haven't seen it. | ||
| I had a sketch that I want to just... | ||
| I wrote... | ||
| So the week Shane got fired, whatever, unhired, I thought of a sketch... | ||
| And I texted, I was gonna be in New York, and I had like a sort of open-door policy at SNL where I could just write, because I wrote there with Dave, so... | ||
| So I had a sketch idea for Jost, where it was a couple, they're in bed, and they're like, so any STDs you wanna tell me about? | ||
| And they're like, no, I'm cleaning. | ||
| Any podcasts? | ||
| And we wrote, and then it was like, I did one! | ||
| It was a good idea. | ||
| About Shane, but like, whatever. | ||
| And then we wrote it, and then it kind of got shelved. | ||
| Like, my understanding was some of the people at the show didn't appreciate this. | ||
| And then I was hoping Joe... | ||
| I was gonna text Shane and be like, hey, there's a sketch you should do, but I didn't want to be like... | ||
| There's room for a show like, well, Gillian Keeves is that. | ||
| Have you watched Gillian Keeves? | ||
| I mean, I think I've seen a couple of the sketches. | ||
| Fucking amazing. | ||
| It's fucking amazing. | ||
| It's underappreciated. | ||
| Within the Gillian Keeves fans, it's really appreciated, but the mainstream does not know how good those sketches are. | ||
| He does OnlyFans' dad, a dad who needs to make money, and so he does OnlyFans. | ||
| It's fucking insane! | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| He does this Trump speed dating sketch. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh that one I think I saw. | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| Because it's buck wild. | ||
| Because they're on the internet and Patreon and you kind of get away with doing whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| And it just has to be funny. | ||
| But that's really, you can't do that anywhere. | ||
| You know, if you're on network television, you're dealing with so many executives, they're all terrified, and everyone's scared, and everyone's ideologically captured, and there's certain things you can't joke around about, and it's like, God, there's so much ground you can't cover. | ||
| And it's just, you handicap yourself. | ||
| You just handcuff yourself. | ||
| Well, it's also the, as two aged men who have seen many parts of, many eras of show business, It seemed... | ||
| The whole thing has got the... | ||
| TV now feels like a 78-year-old woman who still thinks she's fine. | ||
| And it's like, bitch, you're not fine no more. | ||
| You don't gotta carry yourself like... | ||
| Like, you know, everyone wants to fuck me. | ||
| It's like, not really. | ||
| You have all, like, the props from when everyone wants to fuck you, but there's a lot of other women out here now. | ||
| And they still think... | ||
| They haven't really adjusted. | ||
| They kind of can't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, how do you reduce... | ||
| Network television. | ||
| How do you reduce late-night TV? How do you reduce sketch shows? | ||
| It still has to be what it always was. | ||
| The format is just, it's so restrictive. | ||
| The fact that you have to break for commercials, the fact that you have a specific amount of time, all that is just, you can't compete with the internet because of that. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| And then you have all the meddling. | ||
| I mean, you've done... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've dealt with Comedy Central. | ||
| It was fucking insane over there. | ||
| It was insane trying to tell them what is funny and what is not funny. | ||
| I will say, after six episodes of Chappelle's show, they actually said, I believe the quote was, we don't understand your show. | ||
| No! | ||
| So kind of just do whatever you want. | ||
| They really said, like, we don't understand your show. | ||
| Yeah, because it's funny. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because it was really funny. | ||
| There was a... | ||
| We did this sketch, The Mad Real World, and one of the execs said, like, it's an unfunny... | ||
| It's a collection of unfunny scenes back-to-back. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And I was like, well, could we at least show it to the audience? | ||
| Do you mind? | ||
| And then we showed it, and it crushed. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then I got in the exec's kind of ear. | ||
| And I was like, I heard what you said about this. | ||
| And she was like, hey! | ||
| Neil, take it. | ||
| Oh, they were bad. | ||
| Because I was like, I was kind of... | ||
| Attached to it. | ||
| I was attached to it, and I was also very... | ||
| I knew... | ||
| It's with any of these things... | ||
| You know, you, Dave, anyone who's a star of the show, they're jumping out of the plane. | ||
| Let them pack their own chute. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, you're jumping out of the plane. | ||
| If you don't want to say it, or you're not confident in it, then you shouldn't have to say it. | ||
| And they wanted to pack the chute the way they thought a parachute should be packed. | ||
| And it's like, no, let the jumper do it, and if it doesn't work, then you guys can... | ||
| It's really like someone who's watched surgery who wants to cut. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| They don't know what they're doing, and their instincts are almost always wrong. | ||
| And if they're lucky, they find someone who's really good, who can kind of work around their nonsense and still create a quality show. | ||
| But a lot of the times, it just gets in the way so much that you get like 60%, 70% of what you could have had. | ||
| Yeah, and you gotta also hope that the audience overwhelms the network. | ||
| Meaning, South Park got off to a hot start. | ||
| Well, South Park was South Park before Comedy Central was Comedy Central, right? | ||
| Yeah, they made a video. | ||
| They were a little wilder back then. | ||
| Comedy Central was kind of the renegade. | ||
| And then South Park became so undeniable, you had to just leave them alone. | ||
| They were so good, you just had to go, just shut the fuck up and leave them alone. | ||
| Yeah, and that kind of has to happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it kind of happened with Chappelle's show pretty quickly. | ||
| After the blind white supremacist, there was the first episode, they were kind of like, oh, and then the ratings were good. | ||
| So they kind of didn't, they tried to meddle, but their heart wasn't in it. | ||
| It hit a cultural landmark. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It hit this thing where Chappelle's show was the show. | ||
| It's like, when is it on? | ||
| When is it on again? | ||
| Yeah, whereas the man show was more like, ah! | ||
| You know, doing pretty good. | ||
| I think maybe we can help it somehow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or you kind of either want to... | ||
| You just have to succeed a big way, and then they'll stop. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be so undeniable that they have to get out of the way. | ||
| And you have to actually say that. | ||
| You've got to get out of the way. | ||
| Like, leave us alone. | ||
| If you don't leave us alone, we're not going to do it. | ||
| And that's the only way to do it. | ||
| That format is just so limiting. | ||
| And, you know, that format was all that existed. | ||
| And that was the essential format for television. | ||
| It was the only way to do it. | ||
| You had commercials. | ||
| You had an 8 p.m. | ||
| time slot. | ||
| This is all simple. | ||
| You have 44 minutes with commercials. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| What would you do if you were the... | ||
| I don't know what these companies should do. | ||
| Comedy Central is basically a production company now. | ||
| Well, they're doing the right thing, I think, in switching to streaming, right? | ||
| So it's just a matter of being able to get enough quality stuff on streaming. | ||
| Get people over there. | ||
| So they're gonna have to shell out a lot of money for big properties and they've done that with like, you know, Disney's done that and Paramount's done that and a few of these viable streaming platforms have managed to make like really good shows and put them on streaming and they can still do that. | ||
| You know, like there's shows like Shogun, you know, which is just fucking so good. | ||
| But you know, it exists in both. | ||
| It exists in streaming and on television and they kind of Make it for that. | ||
| You still have the commercial breaks, but when you watch on streaming, you just get the full episode. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I also think there's probably very little input from advertisers, meaning if something's popular, people will just want to advertise on it. | ||
| They won't give a shit what the message is. | ||
| Is it family hour? | ||
| Does this line up with Procter& Gamble's values or any of that shit? | ||
| It's just like, yeah, are there eyeballs? | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But even then, I mean, there's people that try to push back. | ||
| Even against Shogun, there was this thing about, like, why aren't there no black people on Shogun? | ||
| Well, what do you think it's about? | ||
| It's about Japan. | ||
| It's like, what are you talking about? | ||
| It's Japan in the 1600s. | ||
| Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| This is exactly what it is. | ||
| Yeah, I hope that didn't get very far. | ||
| No, it doesn't get far, but it's like they try, and that's the indicative of the kind of pressures that those people feel behind the scenes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because behind the scenes, it's all a bunch of grifters. | ||
| It's all a bunch of network executive grifters that are all just working a DEI angle, and they're trying to make, like, where's the diversity? | ||
| I mean, how many times have you had pitches where you bring it in, and they're like, where's the diversity? | ||
| I don't have that problem, because I generally come with a diverse, like, I am Mr. White diversity, but, like, I hear you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I don't, the DEI behind the scenes shit, I think that they're just, they're scared. | ||
| They're just scared. | ||
| There's just like, what's the latest priority culturally? | ||
| So they go like, we have to service that priority, or I'm going to get in some kind of trouble. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And they don't know, they don't, they're just blowing in the wind. | ||
| And they're so expendable. | ||
| You can move network executives around, like, chess pieces. | ||
| Just move them around. | ||
| Chess? | ||
| Get rid of them. | ||
| Yeah, not even chess pieces. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not even tic-tac-toe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just move them along. | ||
| They don't matter. | ||
| They really don't matter. | ||
| And basically anybody could do that job as long as you have good quality television. | ||
| As long as the people that are making it, you know, the Paul Sims of the world, the people that make really good shows, just leave them the fuck alone and they'll make great things. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's the thing I always want to say. | ||
| It's like, my standards are higher than yours. | ||
| Well, you actually understand it. | ||
| I want to bomb less than you do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't want this to go poorly. | ||
| I understand that it's because they're basically backseat drivers. | ||
| They kind of are, like, extra, like, overcranked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, you know, I'm worried. | ||
| I'm more worried than you. | ||
| I'm, again, jumping out of the plane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let me pack the parachute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's not why they moved to L.A. Right. | ||
| Well, they also want to make their mark on everything. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly right. | ||
| They want to jizz in the soup every chance they can. | ||
| There was a thing I remember when we were doing Half-Baked, I wanted to say, hey, let us do what we want, and then at the end we'll pass around a hat and you guys can take credit for something. | ||
| Like, oh, the title. | ||
| Okay, that's not bad. | ||
| Oh, the cat. | ||
| Like, just let us do the fucking thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they want to do the fucking thing. | ||
| Yeah, always. | ||
| They want you to get started. | ||
| You get this started, and then I'll come in and be a producer. | ||
| I'll be what I imagined a producer was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they don't have any original. | ||
| I mean, but the good news is... | ||
| But you kind of defeated them. | ||
| I mean podcast, YouTube, etc. | ||
| It's like they're on there. | ||
| It's hard not to kind of curb stomp them. | ||
| Well, it's just they almost can't compete with the instantaneous access, the free access. | ||
| You can get it anywhere. | ||
| Get it on your phone. | ||
| Get it on a tablet. | ||
| Get it on your computer. | ||
| You get it anywhere. | ||
| And it's available anytime you want it. | ||
| You can pause it. | ||
| You can leave. | ||
| You don't have to wait for a time slot. | ||
| You can watch all of them when they come out. | ||
| It's just that format that exists, like the Netflix format of releasing the entire season of show, you can't compete with that. | ||
| People love that. | ||
| They love binging. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| They love the fact that it's available anytime you want it. | ||
| They love the fact there's no commercials. | ||
| All that shit is just, they're just trapped. | ||
| And if I was a network executive, If I was at the top of the food chain, I would be really thinking, like, is there another way to do this? | ||
| Does it have to be this way? | ||
| Does it have to be commercial breaks? | ||
| Because nobody watches those. | ||
| They're not good. | ||
| They're not funny. | ||
| Okay, but I've heard, and I haven't experienced it because I haven't made a show on Netflix other than stand-up, there are things that they need you to hit certain shit by minute ten. | ||
| The end of every episode has to be a cliffhanger. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| That's what I've heard. | ||
| I haven't experienced it firsthand. | ||
| So, as a show creator, I wonder if there is an imperative to... | ||
| You kind of want to know the information in terms of like when do people turn the shit off? | ||
| I heard something like if they watch the first Three, then they'll watch ten. | ||
| Like, you have to... | ||
| So they're, like, front-load the first three with plot, character, maybe sex... | ||
| I don't even know what the... | ||
| So I'm kind of talking out of my ass a little bit. | ||
| But I do know that they have information. | ||
| So it's a formula. | ||
| That they're... | ||
| Yeah, that they want... | ||
| It's like, you want people to watch your shit or not? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I, in my new special, 53 minutes, because I don't need it. | ||
| I've never been like, oh, good, it's an hour 20. It's never better longer to me. | ||
| And I... 53 minutes is perfect. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's perfect. | ||
| And I move jokes up. | ||
| I was like, that joke... | ||
| It's like when you do the live show, the first really big laugh... | ||
| Like, in my live show, it was probably at, I think it was at 11, and I, so in Netflix, I moved it up to, like, 7 or 8. You know what I mean? | ||
| Just get it in there quick. | ||
| Like, the big, big, like, oh, fuck, like, a different energy laugh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Move it up. | ||
| That's weird, though. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'm meeting them where they are. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I don't feel like I'm selling myself out or the integrity of my act. | ||
| That's just how I did it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're just formatting it for this very specific system as opposed to a live show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where you're setting things up and... | ||
| Yeah, and at a live show, they can't go anywhere. | ||
| They're there because they want to be there. | ||
| At home, they can watch everything ever recorded. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| I'm competing with everything that's ever been made. | ||
| The Godfather. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is this better than The Godfather? | ||
| Apocalypse Now. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Heat. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's all on. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's all on. | ||
| Rocky. | ||
| Rocky. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| And every comedy special. | ||
| Every one of them. | ||
| And Norm. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And OJ. And Patrice. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| All the old stuff, all the new stuff, everything all together. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's an insane time for your attention. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just try to captivate people's attention now. | ||
| It's an insane proposition. | ||
| There's just so much available. | ||
| Are you... | ||
| I mean, what's funny is you kind of, it's not even the tortoise and the hare, you just haven't changed. | ||
| You're just like, I don't know, I just talk for fucking three hours. | ||
| Well, this is what I did in the beginning, so I just keep doing what I do. | ||
| I do it because I like doing it this way. | ||
| And in the beginning, like, Ari was the first one. | ||
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He was like, you gotta edit it. | |
| You have to edit it. | ||
| No one wants to listen in three hours. | ||
| I'm like, then don't listen. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I'm just gonna do the best thing that I can do, do it how I feel like doing it, and that's it. | ||
| Yeah, but you know that doesn't work for most people most of the time. | ||
| Most of the time it doesn't work, but it works. | ||
| You know it worked, but I'm saying, do you ever think about why, or do you even give a shit? | ||
| It's none of your business. | ||
| I think if you think about why, you'll second-guess your own instincts. | ||
| And that's never good. | ||
| Because they've been good to me so far. | ||
| I just stick with me. | ||
| I know what I like. | ||
| And if I'm actually genuinely interested in that thing, this subject, I think other people will as well. | ||
| Like if I bring on someone who's a beekeeper, I don't think, wow, this is going to be a big episode. | ||
| All I think is, I'm interested in bees. | ||
| I'm going to talk to someone who's really interested in bees. | ||
| Tell me, how do you do it? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Do you look at which episodes to do well, or do you just firewall it? | ||
| None of your business. | ||
| None of my business. | ||
| Yeah, I don't care. | ||
| I don't pay attention. | ||
| I mean, I know. | ||
| I hear. | ||
| I hear this one's huge, this one's huge, whatever. | ||
| I don't pay attention. | ||
| This is what I'm interested in. | ||
| I want to talk to this guy. | ||
| I had Paul Stamets on yesterday, mushroom expert. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| He's got his own protocol. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's his stuff right there. | ||
| I host defense. | ||
| Is this psilocybin? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That's agaricon and turkey tail. | ||
| That's his immune stack that he uses. | ||
| There's all sorts of medicinal mushrooms that have no psychoactive effects. | ||
| And is any of this stuff proven? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, there's peer-reviewed studies, random controlled trials, double-blind placebo-controlled styles with Agaricon. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about that yesterday, too. | ||
| He's a real scientist, so the stuff that he does is very, very legit. | ||
| And, you know, he's also He's very diligent in the way he sources the mushrooms. | ||
| They test them, find out which ones have efficacy, which ones don't. | ||
| Because you can have, like, he was explaining that Agaricon, they've identified he has 107 strains that he has, personally. | ||
| And out of those strains, they've identified at least four of them that are, like, the most hyper-beneficial, and they haven't tested them all. | ||
| But those four, then that's the ones they sell. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah, and then some of them are different for different things, like some of them are better for pox viruses, where other ones are better for RNA viruses. | ||
| It's very, very interesting. | ||
| Very interesting what they've done. | ||
| Good. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that's, you know, this shit, it's cool. | ||
| We have lived in a time with a good amount of change. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, there's a lot of change. | ||
| There's a lot of change going on. | ||
| For better and worse. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know how much worse. | ||
| There's a lot of confusion, but I think ultimately there's more information, and that's always better, and there's more freedom of communication, although there's a lot of attempts at restricting freedom of communication. | ||
| There's still more avenues of communication than there's ever been before, which is almost always good. | ||
| And we've talked about this before, but the trusting that people can figure it out. | ||
| Yeah, well, they have to learn to figure it out. | ||
| Just like people had to learn what things to eat that are poison and what things are edible. | ||
| You have to learn that. | ||
| And we have to learn that with information. | ||
| We have to learn that with everything. | ||
| We have to learn that with styles of communication. | ||
| We have to learn that with people that are really shitty to people. | ||
| People don't like that. | ||
| That's not necessary. | ||
| Learn that. | ||
| People need to learn that. | ||
| And that's how you learn it. | ||
| You learn it by watching people Sort of get ahead but just by being cunts and they don't like to go so far and the audience turns on them and you know recognize that some people are just you know communicators and just calm and nice and that's better and you could still get all the same information and still have interesting debates and conversations you don't have to be a cunt. | ||
| Yeah the the I because I think about I'm not very so I feel like you're paranoid or not paranoid you're skeptical of Yeah. | ||
| And I always go, why am I not skeptical of control? | ||
| Like, compared to you or compared to a guy like Dave, who's also very skeptical of any sort of authority or institution. | ||
| And I think, I was thinking, I'm so glad to not be under the Catholic Church anymore. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That everything is better? | ||
| Right. | ||
| To me, like, the government, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I truly don't. | ||
| Apple, you want to listen in? | ||
| Good. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| You can't send me to hell. | ||
| So I don't even care if you overhear me. | ||
| This is better than the way I grew up. | ||
| But I'm skeptical. | ||
| It's one of those yin-yang things where I'm skeptical of too much information chaos. | ||
| I'm sure this will be probably the balance of the next at least 20 years. | ||
| Well, information chaos is also engineered, and that's one thing to take into consideration, that information chaos is not always organic. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And then what about that? | ||
| If, you know, Russia, China, our enemies, in quotes, wink, wink, whatever. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, what... | ||
| You know, if somebody... | ||
| Dave made a point that if a country has racial divisions anyway, and then an outside actor foments them... | ||
| It's the country's fault for having them in the first place. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, but that's kind of bullshit because if there's a marriage that is having trouble and then someone comes in and fucks with it, that's the outside person's fault because the married people want it to be good. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, America's gonna have conflict naturally, and I think it's natural to have that, and it's okay to have that, and we need to figure that out. | ||
| But once an outside actor comes in, I still blame the outside actor for fomenting. | ||
| And I feel the same way with the information stuff. | ||
| Like, I'm with you in terms of, like, we do need freedom, but I still blame the outside actor for coming and creating more chaos. | ||
| I think it's an unavoidable evil. | ||
| If you're going to have freedom, you're going to have the freedom of bots. | ||
| You're going to have the freedom of people that hire people in these troll farms where they have thousands and thousands of accounts and they just push different narratives and they get involved. | ||
| You know, we had Renee DiResta on once who studied this and one of the things that she studied, one of the things that Russia had done during the 2016 election was the creation of Memes and some of them were really funny and they were memes that were very specifically designed to push certain narratives and make fun of certain things and that they had made so many accounts thousands and thousands of accounts they had actually organized A Texas secession meeting across the street from another... | ||
| I know, that shit was... | ||
| It's so like Monty Python... | ||
| A Muslim meeting, yeah. | ||
| They wanted these people to be fighting with each other. | ||
| And they do that online, constantly. | ||
| There's so many times, well, I'll see something that's contentious, something that's socially... | ||
| Something that's very explosive. | ||
| And then I'll look in the comments and I'll see some outrageous statements. | ||
| And it's like a couple of letters and a number for the account. | ||
| And I'll click on the account and I'll go into it. | ||
| Oh, it's a fake account. | ||
| How many of those are there? | ||
| There's fucking hundreds of thousands, if not millions. | ||
| There's an FBI analyst that did an estimation, and he thinks that there's 80%. | ||
| He thinks 80% of the Twitter accounts that were in circulation, at least at the time, were trolls. | ||
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| 80%. | ||
| And so... | ||
| That would be part of the information chaos thing that I'm a bit like, this is going to be bad. | ||
| It's bad now and it's probably only going to get worse with AI and all that shit. | ||
| And I don't, but I don't know what the, I don't know if we talked about this, but if there was a governing body... | ||
| Let's say over all of social media morality, or whatever, or ethics. | ||
| Who would you even put on it? | ||
| You can't. | ||
| It can't be done. | ||
| It can't be done because the government can't be trusted because they're doing it. | ||
| Right, but let's say the people elected it. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| If there was a way to get around the government. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| Jon Stewart? | ||
| Yeah, but people would have access to that. | ||
| Like, Jon Stewart couldn't talk about China on Apple. | ||
| Right, he left. | ||
| He left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| No, I'm with you. | ||
| That's corporate. | ||
| I'm saying, like, who are even... | ||
| I think the solution is more complex. | ||
| The solution is technology ramped up to a point where lying is impossible. | ||
| And I think that is going to be tight. | ||
| You're going to be able to have opinions, but lying about specific facts I think is going to be far more difficult with Widespread use of AI and also when people have universal ability to translate languages instantaneously. | ||
| Right now it's a little clunky. | ||
| You could read tweets and you could say translate the tweet. | ||
| You can do things like that, but you don't necessarily know what the fuck is going on. | ||
| When it's universal, When you're going to have instantaneous translation into that, you're going to, it's going to be far more difficult to deceive people when you have instantaneous access to AI, which is, as long as the AI is not biased, which we've seen, AI is programmed and the Google AI, you know, founding fathers. | ||
| We talked about this like eight years ago when I pitched Robo President. | ||
| And then it became, if there's an AI president, then the thing that's going to be argued about is what information are we loading in? | ||
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Right. | |
| And what are the values that the AI has? | ||
| Is the values for the human race? | ||
| Is the values for New York City? | ||
| Is the value for the country in general? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is the values? | ||
| And what is its imperative? | ||
| What is it trying to do? | ||
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| But the thing is, that's rudimentary AI. As AI scales up and gets far more advanced, and it's going to happen very quickly, it's going to bypass all that stuff, and it's going to come up with some sort of a more ethical foundation that everybody is going to have to operate under. | ||
| It's going to be very weird, Neil, and it's going to be very weird very quickly. | ||
| I totally agree with you. | ||
| I completely agree with you. | ||
| I mean, in some ways, whenever I hear about AI, I'm like, help us, AI. When they're like, it may obliterate us, I'm like, but if it doesn't, please help us, AI. Please help us get out of all this garbage we've gotten ourselves into. | ||
| Yeah, it could both help us and obliterate us. | ||
| It's going to be a wild ride. | ||
| It's going to be a wild ride. | ||
| When do you think it'll be? | ||
| Four years at the most. | ||
| In four years we're fucked. | ||
| In four years, everything's tossed. | ||
| Everything's fucked. | ||
| I mean, there's so many things that we kind of let slide today that you're not going to be able to let congressional insider trading slide. | ||
| It's going to be a real problem. | ||
| You're not going to be able to have bills where you have a border funding bill that also has funding for Ukraine. | ||
| All that kind of stuff is going to have to go by the wayside. | ||
| You think AI will prevent that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How come? | ||
| Well, because people will be able to analyze everything about every bill instantaneously. | ||
| It's not going to be as simple as, you know, you have to sit down and read a 2,000-page bill. | ||
| It's going to be AI is going to break it down, and it's also going to break down who the people are that propose the bill, and then also what the influences these people have in terms of who their donors are. | ||
| And you're going to get, like, very specific breakdowns of what all these things are, and people will be far more informed. | ||
| I... My feeling on that is that people In some ways are informed and we're all kind of powerless to change it. | ||
| There's a little bit of that right now. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like Citizens United or like dark money or astroturfing or pork and bills or tying things together or emergency. | ||
| It's just all this shit of like how the fuck are we supposed to even move the needle at all as people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At all. | ||
| It seems impossible. | ||
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It definitely does now. | |
| The way the shit's set up. | ||
| Yeah, it definitely does now. | ||
| And I don't, and AI doesn't seem like, oh, I don't think that, I don't think the problem is a lack of understanding. | ||
| I think the problem is a, it's the system set up so that it's, the only way to get a law made is like getting a building named, you gotta have 10 million bucks. | ||
| Yeah, there's a little bit of that going on, too. | ||
| I mean, there's no way to run for president unless you have hundreds of millions of dollars backing you, which is just insane. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
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There's no way to run for Senate without a hundred. | |
| You're not a hundred. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're getting a job that's $150,000 a year and you're spending hundreds of millions. | ||
| People in the primary have a hundred. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sweetie. | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
| Yeah, it's insane. | ||
| People like Nikki Haley that had no chance of being president had hundreds of millions of dollars behind them. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that's just like, oh, fourth runner-up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Yeah, and that's one of those things where, like, how does AI help us? | ||
| Supreme Court's locked in for... | ||
| As long as they live fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Until you die. | ||
| Like a sci-fi star chamber. | ||
| Until you die. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| That's a horrible idea. | ||
| It's not even dependent upon whether or not your ideas are even... | ||
| They even make sense. | ||
| Like, did you see Katenji Brown Jackson, who they asked her what a woman is? | ||
| And she said, I'm not a biologist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right, but you're a woman. | ||
| Like, maybe take a crack at that. | ||
| You know what's funny is because you go more, right? | ||
| You go to her and I'm thinking Alito. | ||
| What did Alito do? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Well, I'm just talking about one specific thing that's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| If you ask me what a man is, I can tell you what a man is. | ||
| And I'm not a biologist either. | ||
| But I am a man. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, so the... | ||
| I do worry about... | ||
| To me, it's not even a lack of information. | ||
| Sometimes it's a lack of information. | ||
| I mostly think it's rigged against the people. | ||
| It's rigged against the citizens to not have any say in any of this shit. | ||
| It definitely is somewhat. | ||
| But you also do need someone who actually understands the law to withhold the Constitution, to uphold it, and to make sure that you don't pass things that do violate very core tenets of how our society is structured. | ||
| What did Alito do? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| I'm just, as a liberal, I'm just like, it seems like those guys want to, like, get very rid of... | ||
| I'm pretty liberal. | ||
| I'm just liberal what a liberal used to be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You learn more, lean more right. | ||
| I learn at this point. | ||
| I don't even lean more right. | ||
| I lean more center, which is right now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just, it's so, the left has gone to, so far to the left. | ||
| It's gone so far into this strange... | ||
| This bizarre land of cult-like thinking. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| It's driven by the, it's sort of, everyone's afraid of upsetting, it's the tyranny of the minority. | ||
| No one can say, hey, do me a favor, shut the fuck up. | ||
| Or we're going to lose all of this. | ||
| If we make this about just your minor grievance or issue, we're going to lose the whole thing. | ||
| But it becomes about the various, you know, DI or transgender or whatever, all these things that are... | ||
| Not unimportant, but they're just not the most important. | ||
| And you're not allowed to say to someone anymore, your shit is not the most important thing. | ||
| Because of the egomania of our culture, everyone's issue is the number one issue. | ||
| And it's like, no, it's the number one issue for you, but it's not the number one issue for half of the population of the country. | ||
| Well, it's also the thing is if you oppose any of these protected ideas, you get attacked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You get attacked and labeled as the worst thing possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whatever that is. | ||
| At the time. | ||
| When you agree with them in 99% of other issues. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they just prioritize. | ||
| It's just this thing of like, no, it's like the kids playing soccer where it's just running a bunch of... | ||
| This is the most important thing. | ||
| And it's like, is this really... | ||
| And you can't go, the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| You have to go, yes, I honor. | ||
| You have to start bowing and I honor. | ||
| You have to do the Nancy Pelosi down on a knee with the kente cloth. | ||
| It's like, no, that's an important issue. | ||
| It might not be the most important issue. | ||
| And then they go, well, then we're going to withhold our vote. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| You're a fucking child. | ||
| And you don't understand the way politics work if you're going to withhold your vote because of one issue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's also a revolving thing of like, we're going to withhold because of Israel. | ||
| We're going to withhold because of transgender. | ||
| We're going to withhold because of DEI. We're going to withhold on and on and on. | ||
| And as someone who is on their side, it's a bit like... | ||
| Oh, please shut the fuck up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because you're gonna blow this for all of us. | ||
| Well, each party becomes captured by the most extreme versions of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You look at the right, the right gets captured by, you know, people think of the right, they think of like Proud Boys or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or guns. | ||
| Or guns. | ||
| The left, they think of Antifa. | ||
| Or now abortion, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's always something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's always something that's ridiculous. | ||
| And then it turns out that, like, the Republican stats on abortion are like 55% of Republicans think abortion should be leaked. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And it's like, well, then how the fuck did they... | ||
| Because, you know, it's almost like they always say about Republicans, they're like the dog who caught the car. | ||
| You know, like, they use abortion as a, you know, driving issue, thinking, like, it'll never happen. | ||
| And then it happens, and they're like, oh, fuck! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, I guess Arizona goes, okay, we're going back to 1864 or whatever. | ||
| It's a law from the 1800s that they upheld two days ago. | ||
| Well, it's always interesting how ignorant people are about the rest of the world, too. | ||
| Like, I'm going to Europe where women have the right to choose. | ||
| Well, go to France because they have a limitation there, too. | ||
| Well, no, no one ever looks it up. | ||
| Also, try to get a citizenship. | ||
| How are you going to do that? | ||
| How you gonna do it? | ||
| Look it up once. | ||
| But they haven't looked it up. | ||
| I've been doing a joke about how American women are like, American men are the worst. | ||
| And I'm like, who do you think's coming? | ||
| Who's coming? | ||
| Italian guys? | ||
| First of all, they're bringing their moms. | ||
| That's A. And B, you're gonna have to start cooking dinner at 2.15 every afternoon. | ||
| I hope you're happy. | ||
| Well, that's the least of your words. | ||
| Sharia law. | ||
| I mean, that's the ultimate punchline. | ||
| It's like, Middle Eastern guys, I'm not even going to finish this joke. | ||
| Because they don't have the best sense of humor about their... | ||
| Yeah, but if you look up, like, look up genital mutilation. | ||
| It's really grim. | ||
| In terms of what these other guys are out here doing, ladies. | ||
| Not like us American hero men. | ||
| No, but it really is like a pretty... | ||
| People don't look it up. | ||
| They like sulking. | ||
| Yeah, but also, there's so many issues that most people are just not informed. | ||
| They just know what their side goes with. | ||
| And so they adhere to whatever the doctrine is. | ||
| I remember looking up abortion laws worldwide four or five years ago and being like, oh... | ||
| It wasn't as, like, blanket as I thought. | ||
| Well, Burr had the best bit on that. | ||
| I think you should have the right to choose, but I also think you're killing a baby. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| I mean, at a certain point in time, it is a baby. | ||
| The question is, like, who gets to decide? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the whole thing of when—because I did a joke like, you know, liberals have to support everybody, not fetuses— And the New York Times wrote me up like, I just saw Neil Brennan do a sort of anti-abortion joke, and it was like joining Bill Burr and George Carlin, and I was like, are you trying to insult me? | ||
| He goes, thank you for that fucking barbed insult. | ||
| But yeah, even knowing when, even if you go, no, I believe it doesn't start, it's all sort of Ah! | ||
| Scientists like the heartbeat or the fetal, whatever. | ||
| It's all a bit like you're all guessing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I will also, I'll admit I'm guessing. | ||
| It's just which guess suits my needs. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, if I got a girl that I'm not trying to be with who's pregnant, whose period's late, I'm like, I believe in abortion to the fifth trimester. | ||
| Like, I believe in it late. | ||
| Whereas if I'm, you know, not, if I'm 65 and can't get somebody or whatever. | ||
| Probably can't get someone. | ||
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65! | |
| 65 or whatever. | ||
| Whatever age. | ||
| There is no age of a... | ||
| Al Pacino just had a kid. | ||
| Al Pacino's 80 years old. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| 80 years old. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he also wanted to make sure the kid was his, which is like a great way to start. | ||
| Somebody I know was doing pickup at school with De Niro. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Like recently, it was just like, I can't believe you're still doing this. | ||
| Well, isn't this like, I mean, how many times has he been married? | ||
| These guys just dive right back in. | ||
| Yeah, I've never understood that. | ||
| I've never understood that need. | ||
| Like, Rupert Murdoch just did it. | ||
| Rupert Murdoch just got engaged. | ||
| I think they're just comfortable with having a partner, and they just don't want to exist in this weird state where they're texting people and calling people, especially when you're in your 70s. | ||
| You're trying to hook up. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It's humiliating. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I bet if you're a 70-year-old famous guy and you get divorced, I bet... | ||
| I bet it's probably pretty easy to find someone new who, like, plays the role and probably pretty easy to get duped. | ||
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Pretty easy. | |
| Yeah, because they know, like, the time is on my, if I'm the girl, I'm like, time, I just gotta ride this baby out. | ||
| Yeah, all you have to do is just be the right person that this guy needs for a small amount of time, and you don't have to work. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever again. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Like, if you're a person who's running around there scratching out 60, 70 grand a year and barely getting by, and then you hook up with Robert De Niro. | ||
| And in order to change your life, you just need to stand in Robert De Niro's eyeline with what my friend calls available sexual energy. | ||
| Yeah, available sexual energy and just be nice. | ||
| Just be nice to him. | ||
| That's all he needs. | ||
| Just talk to him. | ||
| You're candy-striping. | ||
| Yeah, you don't have to work hard. | ||
| Just don't be offensive. | ||
| Don't be rude. | ||
| Don't fuck with him. | ||
| Don't insult him. | ||
| Don't play the same games that you'd play with a 30-year-old guy that doesn't have any money. | ||
| No. | ||
| Play a different game. | ||
| If he doesn't text you back, it's because he doesn't know how to text, sweetie, because he's a fucking old dude. | ||
| Or he doesn't have his glasses, or he can't see what you wrote him. | ||
| A lot of this. | ||
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No shit. | |
| Yep. | ||
| That's the sad part about being our age is anytime I go look at this meme, all my friends have to put glasses on and start holding. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Fucking humiliation. | ||
| You can mitigate some of that. | ||
| There's certain vitamins that you can take that stop macular degeneration. | ||
| Pure Encapsulations has a macular support formula. | ||
| But does it work? | ||
| Yeah, it stopped it. | ||
| It stopped it for me. | ||
| For you? | ||
| Yeah, totally stopped it. | ||
| Totally stopped it. | ||
| Do you wear glasses, contacts? | ||
| I can, yeah. | ||
| I wear glasses when I write. | ||
| I wear reading glasses when I write, but I can look at my phone, no problem. | ||
| I can read websites, no problem. | ||
| Did it get better or just stopped? | ||
| It got a little better, yeah. | ||
| A little better with red light, too. | ||
| Red light therapy. | ||
| You have a red light bed that I lay in. | ||
| And are your eyes open? | ||
| Yeah, you keep your eyes open. | ||
| And you're laying in a bed? | ||
| Yeah, it's just staring at red lights, just chilling. | ||
| Usually I just listen to books. | ||
| Yeah, I would like to do that because it's worse. | ||
| It's such a bummer. | ||
| Hari got surgery. | ||
| He got Lasix on his eyes, and then his eyes got worse after the surgery. | ||
| They got better. | ||
| That can happen sometimes, right? | ||
| Well, you have the natural course of macular degeneration that takes place as you age. | ||
| So his eyes were great at first. | ||
| Like, this is great. | ||
| I don't have to wear glasses anymore. | ||
| And then... | ||
| A couple years later, five, six, seven years later, starts getting really shitty again. | ||
| And it's just, they go, yeah, that's just what happens. | ||
| Yeah, I think that happened to Bill Maher, too. | ||
| It got worse. | ||
| He kept getting LASIK. Maybe I'm remembering this wrong. | ||
| And then at a certain point, they're like, we can't LASIK you. | ||
| You just have to wear glasses. | ||
| That's scary. | ||
| Getting more and more eye surgeries is fucking terrifying. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably the one that makes you wince the most. | ||
| Those videos. | ||
| It doesn't go well every time. | ||
| Like, there's certain times where people get infections, or it just doesn't heal right. | ||
| Or you just, your eyes are fucked. | ||
| You have a halo around lights and shit. | ||
| Oh yeah, I have a friend who can't drive at night. | ||
| He got Lasix and now he can't drive at night. | ||
| I think I would murder the doctor if that happened to me. | ||
| He was so upset because he's like, I could have driven at night and just worn glasses when I had to read things. | ||
| He goes, now I can't drive at night. | ||
| Because if the headlights see him, it's just like he's blinded by halos. | ||
| He can't see around the circle. | ||
| Like he doesn't know where the car is, where the headlight is. | ||
| He just sees this circle of light that surrounds things like headlights and streetlights. | ||
| Just terrible. | ||
| Yeah, that would make me feel so sorry for myself if I went for surgery and was worse off. | ||
| Yeah, that's a problem with some surgeries. | ||
| And the problem with surgeons is that when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. | ||
| And that's the only solution. | ||
| I've had a bunch of surgeries that I avoided where the doctors are like, you're going to need surgery. | ||
| And I was like, are you fucking sure? | ||
| Like, are you sure? | ||
| Knees, shoulders, shit like that? | ||
| Yeah, shoulders is the big one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wound up getting stem cells. | ||
| In my back, I had bulging discs. | ||
| And they're like, you gotta get that trimmed. | ||
| And I was like, are you sure? | ||
| That's the only way to do it? | ||
| It's not the only way to do it. | ||
| What did you do? | ||
| Spinal decompression, stem cells. | ||
| Fixed it. | ||
| I have zero problems. | ||
| Yeah, zero problems with my neck. | ||
| Zero problems with my shoulder. | ||
| I had a full-length rotator cuff tear on my shoulder. | ||
| And they were like, you're gonna need surgery, 100%. | ||
| And I went back to the doctor six months later. | ||
| It's like, this is fucking crazy. | ||
| Like, that tear doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| What did you do? | ||
| It's because of stem cells. | ||
| And direct into it? | ||
| Yeah, direct into it, yeah. | ||
| And all... | ||
| Was it... | ||
| Did you have to go far? | ||
| Was it just like local? | ||
| I did it in... | ||
| Well, I did it in Vegas and I did it in LA. I did it several times. | ||
| I think I did three injections in my shoulder. | ||
| And then six months later, I got another MRI. And they're like, you don't have a tear anymore. | ||
| The doctor was blown away. | ||
| Because this was all... | ||
| You know, we're talking about, I think my injury was like 2015, 2016, somewhere around then. | ||
| So this was all fairly recent in terms of the kind of results that they were getting. | ||
| And this doctor had never seen anything like it. | ||
| He was blown away. | ||
| He'd been an orthopedic surgeon for 20 years. | ||
| Did you have to do anything? | ||
| Did you have to rehab it? | ||
| Yeah, I did regular rehab. | ||
| Once I got the surgery, I did a lot of bands. | ||
| But you're trying to bring back, what do you bring? | ||
| You're regenerating tissue. | ||
| You're regenerating tissue. | ||
| Can rehab help you with that? | ||
| Or is that just stem cells? | ||
| Yeah, it just strengthens it. | ||
| I think the rehab with the stem, the key is it's like not injuring it while you're healing. | ||
| And the problem is it starts feeling better and then you start pushing and then you re-aggravate the injury and then you're in this repetitive cycle. | ||
| But if you can avoid that, like my friend Shane Dorian is a big wave surfer and he got serious stem cells down in Tijuana where they could do wild shit. | ||
| And he got his entire back done. | ||
| So they put him under and they do every disc in his back. | ||
| And they're like, you can't do anything. | ||
| Like, you can only walk for like a couple of months. | ||
| Like, that's all you can do. | ||
| And for a guy like him, who's a world champion surfer, and he's an athlete, and he's always exercising, he's always doing something that was crazy. | ||
| All you can do is walk. | ||
| But now he feels fucking incredible. | ||
| And it's just months later. | ||
| And he has the back of his old back. | ||
| Well, it's definitely a lot better than it used to be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and that's the key to these things. | ||
| And if you were allowed to do those in America, like you're allowed to do those overseas, I think you'd see remarkable improvements. | ||
| But the problem is then you have orthopedic surgeons who don't want this to happen and they'll try to tell you not to do it because if more people do it, they start telling more people to do it, people are going to avoid surgeries and they're going to be out of a job. | ||
| There's one of these in... | ||
| Jimmy, if you bring this up, there's a film that they can put on teeth that will basically just prevent cavities forever. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I saw it like three weeks ago. | ||
| There's like a microscopic film, invisible. | ||
| They kind of paint it on. | ||
| They want to do it on kids. | ||
| Like low-income kids, and it will, again, maybe I misread it, Jamie, if you look it up. | ||
| Wow, I haven't heard of that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| No, it's a new thing, but there are, and I'm not even, I mean, I am conspiracy-minded in terms of like, yeah, people will try to prevent that, but I wonder which ones they'll let through. | ||
| Well, if there's money in painting people's kids with that stuff, they might let it through. | ||
| The scariest one is fluoride. | ||
| The fluoride in the water thing is bananas. | ||
| Because they're like, oh, it prevents tooth decay. | ||
| It also fucking causes a drop in IQ that's absolutely measurable. | ||
| If you could see the difference between the amount of fluoride in a water and the amount of the drop in IQs in that area, there's a direct correlation. | ||
| But it's in, like, a lot of countries. | ||
| Fluoride is a weird one, man, because there's a lot of, like, very credible scientists that would point to the fact that fluoride is a neurotoxin. | ||
| It's not good for you at all. | ||
| And they're like, oh, yeah, but in small doses. | ||
| But fucking says who? | ||
| Says who? | ||
| And for what purpose? | ||
| The way I pointed it out, it's like, say if someone gets skin cancer and you say, oh, okay, well, we're going to put sunscreen in all the apples. | ||
| Well, hey, hold the fuck on. | ||
| How about just brush your fucking teeth? | ||
| Why do you have to put that shit in the water? | ||
| So every time I cook spaghetti, I have fluoride in my fucking spaghetti. | ||
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't... | ||
| I'm curious... | ||
| Because I looked this up recently, because what I've heard is the amount of fluoride that makes it toxic is like... | ||
| Just a huge amount. | ||
| It's like the dog eating chocolate thing. | ||
| They would look up how much chocolate a dog has to eat to kill it. | ||
| It's like half its body weight or something. | ||
| It's a huge amount. | ||
| And what I remember is that in order for Florida to be toxic, it's got to be a major amount. | ||
| Right, but there's a correlation between high levels of fluoride in water and low IQs. | ||
| We don't really know, and it's developmental cycle of a child that you're interfering with. | ||
| So if you take children and you give them this neurotoxin, and you have it in the water to prevent them from getting cavities, and you literally lower their IQ, which seems possible. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how they came to the decision. | ||
| There's no fucking reason to do it. | ||
| There's no reason to do it. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| Cavity-fighting liquid prevents 80% of cavities. | ||
| Finds largest U.S. study new treatment. | ||
| Uses silver diamine fluoride. | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
| Which is an inexpensive liquid that prevents cavities. | ||
| Guys, I should have never brought it up. | ||
| Well, it's a surface thing, though. | ||
| You're not covering your fucking... | ||
| Well, it's stuck in your mouth, though, I think. | ||
| You're not drinking it. | ||
| What's it saying? | ||
| Dental cavities are a distressing sensation that, if left untreated, can result in terrifying pain, swelling, and restless nights. | ||
| A team of researchers from New York University identified a cavity-fighting solution that is both effective and affordable. | ||
| The new treatment uses silver diamine fluoride, which is an inexpensive liquid that prevents cavities and even shields the existing ones from getting worse. | ||
| So that doesn't really prevent you from getting cavities. | ||
| It stops cavities. | ||
| Didn't it just say it prevents cavities? | ||
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Shields them. | |
| An inexpensive liquid that prevents cavities. | ||
| But does it cover the teeth and prevents future cavities? | ||
| I believe maybe in the next paragraph it'll say that. | ||
| It's quicker to apply and less expensive than sealant. | ||
| So it seems like they're doing it on cavities. | ||
| Prevent and arrest cavities. | ||
| Reducing the need for drilling and filling. | ||
| So they can prevent cavities on people that don't have cavities and then they can fill the cavities with this stuff and prevent them from getting worse. | ||
| Dental cavities are prevalent concern. | ||
| Centers for Disease Control. | ||
| But doesn't just brushing your fucking teeth prevent cavities? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't have cavities. | ||
| No. | ||
| I have. | ||
| I haven't had cavities since I was a little kid. | ||
| I just brushed my teeth. | ||
| Thank you, fluoride. | ||
| I don't think it's fluoride. | ||
| That's tonight's episode that Joe wrote. | ||
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I have a well. | |
| I don't have fluoride in my home water. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I try to avoid fluoride wherever possible. | ||
| I just... | ||
| You live with... | ||
| I mean, the first half of your life was you were riddled with fluoride. | ||
| I'm sure I got it. | ||
| Until a couple... | ||
| Until you moved here. | ||
| Well, I used to use fluoride to... | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even when I lived in L.A. No, that's funny. | ||
| I never drank water out of the tap. | ||
| Oh, you didn't? | ||
| You had your own well? | ||
| I never drank water out of the tap. | ||
| Never. | ||
| It's fucking terrible for you. | ||
| It smells bad. | ||
| It smells like chemicals. | ||
| And even if it's, like, mostly okay, it's like, why are you doing that to yourself? | ||
| Like, have you ever, like, seen any of the studies on fluoride? | ||
| The ones I saw were just like, it's pretty minor. | ||
| The ones I've seen. | ||
| It's not necessarily minor. | ||
| It's poison and it's not necessary. | ||
| There's no reason for it. | ||
| And it seems like there's a lot of money tied into fluoridating drinking water. | ||
| Look up countries that fluorinate their water. | ||
| I looked it up. | ||
| Yeah, I looked it up. | ||
| So if we all have bad IQs, it's fine. | ||
| Did you watch the Synanon thing? | ||
| There's an HBO documentary about this. | ||
| It's really, you'll really like it. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| About what? | ||
| It's called Synanon. | ||
| Synanon. | ||
| It was like a group... | ||
| It was a cult, and then it started out as kind of a self-help, as like a 12-step fellowship. | ||
| It's the classic. | ||
| Then it became a cult, then the leader goes crazy. | ||
| It's only episode two, but it really does follow the thing of every cult. | ||
| At some point, the leader goes, hey, I spoke to God, and he needs me to fuck all your wives. | ||
| Sorry, guys. | ||
| Sin and non. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is it about? | ||
| Oh, so it's an old cult. | ||
| It's from the 70s, yeah. | ||
| The golden age. | ||
| The late, started in the 60s, went into the 70s. | ||
| Starts in black and white. | ||
| How am I not knowing anything about this? | ||
| Yeah, it's on HBO Max or whatever. | ||
| Everyone shaves their heads. | ||
| It's fucking right up your alley. | ||
| Yeah, there's the guy. | ||
| They have audio of him screaming at them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| An attack against Hidanon was an attack against America. | ||
| Yeah, it's custom-made for you. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I've literally never heard of this. | ||
| It just came out last week. | ||
| Oh, I have a thing in my new Netflix where I'm talking about you, I'm talking about the outsized role that You know, because corporate leaders are basically a piece of shit, politicians are a piece of shit, clergy, imams, pastors are a piece of shit. | ||
| Now somehow it's all become like, well, what do the clowns think? | ||
| Now it's up to comedians to be the moral arbiters. | ||
| And it's you, Dave, I mentioned Ellen, I mentioned Kevin Hart, I mentioned just all these people that's like, why are... | ||
| You guys consider I mean, I know why cuz it's just everyone else Couldn't do it and comedians have opinions and like Carlin was moral sometimes John Stewart is moral, you know, but I don't but it's one of these things like it shouldn't be up to us guys, right? | ||
| We're like we shouldn't be the backstop We shouldn't be the moral backbone of America. | ||
| We're one of the rare people, the rare groups of people that are allowed to speak freely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what it is. | ||
| It's like, as long as we can find an angle where it's funny. | ||
| Well, that's the thing, is people are mad. | ||
| It's like on here, people get mad at you for not being, reading the talking points of the National Institutes of Health. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I never understand what people want you to be. | ||
| Walk me through this, where Joe says everything you want him to say. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| It's also not a show anymore. | ||
| Right, but you also, you can't make everyone happy. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| And if you try to operate in this world where you're trying to make people happy versus just trying to be honest, you're fucked. | ||
| You're fucked. | ||
| You're fucked from the jump. | ||
| There's no way to do that. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| You won't be you anymore. | ||
| You will be compromised. | ||
| I feel that about so many things. | ||
| I feel that about reading comments. | ||
| I don't think you should read comments. | ||
| I think that it's been a detriment to certainly public Comment. | ||
| Or whatever we do. | ||
| Whatever, like, public speaking. | ||
| Because it really does kind of... | ||
| You think about, like, what are they gonna... | ||
| What's the worst thing you could possibly say about what I'm thinking of saying? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's a bad way to approach things. | ||
| It's also people that are deeply dishonest. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And deeply unhappy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like they did with your joke about abortion. | ||
| Like, oh, he's just a grifter. | ||
| He's a pro-abortion grifter. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Trying to get that right-wing money. | ||
| Instead of just trying to make a point... | ||
| But everyone's trapped. | ||
| They're trapped in these ideological bubbles and they don't know what to do. | ||
| And if you keep reading the comments on that bubble, you will stay trapped. | ||
| You will stay trapped. | ||
| You're fucked. | ||
| You have to be able to think freely and express yourself freely. | ||
| And you could be wrong. | ||
| And if you're wrong, you have to be able to admit you're wrong. | ||
| And you have to be able to say why you're wrong and why you thought this and why you think differently now. | ||
| And that's just a function of being an honest human being. | ||
| And it's possible to do. | ||
| But goddamn, that is a whitewater rafting trip that is fucking filled with rocks. | ||
| There's bears catching salmon. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Scrape your fucking face. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| How do you... | ||
| Do you monitor yourself at all? | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Have you gone like, boy, this is getting pretty... | ||
| This megaphone's getting pretty big. | ||
| You're having to hire a lot of security at your live shows. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm assuming the venues are getting bigger. | ||
| There's just more. | ||
| Does it ever go... | ||
| I mean, it's got to be validating for you as a person, right? | ||
| You got to be like, oh, I must have done some shit right. | ||
| And then does it make you police yourself? | ||
| Do you go like, let me really try to be... | ||
| I think it makes you—you definitely have to be more clear with what you think and why you think it. | ||
| Instead of just shooting off the cuff, which I definitely used to do a lot when I was younger, I'd have an idea in my head and I'd just run with it and then I'd try to defend that idea. | ||
| But even the fluoride thing, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What we just talked about. | ||
| That's the same conversation we would have had 10 years ago. | ||
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| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does it, do you now think of how, do you go, I have to know what studies are what, and if that's a true, and it's been, you know, replicated, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, or is it still kind of the same, like, yeah, I think I read that. | ||
| The same thing we all do, generally, which is like, yeah, I read that, or I heard that, or whatever. | ||
| Well, it's been a while, but I've read multiple studies on fluoride. | ||
| And I've talked to multiple experts. | ||
| If I didn't, I would say I'm not sure. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But fluoride is not healthy. | ||
| It's not a good thing for you to take. | ||
| But that's one of those ones where I can just say that. | ||
| But then there's other things where it's like a vegan diet. | ||
| I know people that do it. | ||
| I know people that have pulled it off. | ||
| It's possible to do it. | ||
| Hey, you look like shit. | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| You're not a fucker. | ||
| You look all right. | ||
| You look thin and healthy. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| But you can do it if you supplement carefully and you're a smart guy. | ||
| You know what to eat and what not to eat. | ||
| And I can get my blood tested and go to a guy and he tells me, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You have money. | ||
| You can do all the things that you do to make sure that you're okay. | ||
| And it absolutely can be done. | ||
| I know people that eat a vegan diet. | ||
| And I also think there's biodiversity. | ||
| There's some people... | ||
| Their ancestry is very different, their genetics are very different, and their vegan diet is more tolerable for them. | ||
| Like Indian people. | ||
| Indian people have been eating vegetarian food for so fucking long. | ||
| I would imagine that their body, their genes have adapted if they've come from a long line of vegetarians. | ||
| Yeah, like they're kind of stuck with vegetables. | ||
| Maybe it would be beneficial for them to supplement with protein. | ||
| Or they figured it out. | ||
| They have it. | ||
| Their body has figured it out. | ||
| Whatever it was deficient in, it's figured out a way around it by what was available to them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But when we look at countries that consume more meat, they're healthier and they live longer. | ||
| Hong Kong is a great example of that. | ||
| So there's some great studies that have been done on Hong Kong. | ||
| They have like one of the highest meat consumptions and higher life expectancies. | ||
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But then again, it's like how long have they been doing it? | |
| Yeah, and the blue zone or the like a little bit of protein. | ||
| Yeah, that's it's I guess what you're saying is the acknowledgement that like shit's complicated and there's no one right or wrong answer. | ||
| There's also things like healthy user bias like the most important thing that pretty much most of the objective doctors will say the most important thing is physical activity and that if you are not physically active and you eat well You're almost better off smoking cigarettes and being physically active mm-hmm Than doing that. | ||
| By the way, this is always fascinating to me because I've been asking people, do you know what percentage of people die, smokers die of lung cancer? | ||
| What percentage? | ||
| 10 to 15 percent. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Isn't that low? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Wouldn't you think it's like 60? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It's 10 to, and I've looked it up repeatedly like, am I misreading this? | ||
| The amount of smokers that die of lung cancer is 10 to 15%. | ||
| But do they die of other stuff along the way? | ||
| Well, yeah, of course, comorbidities, etc. | ||
| Yeah, because it's like smoking just in general. | ||
| You're limiting your oxygen intake. | ||
| There's a lot of factors. | ||
| Yeah, but it's not as bad as you don't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| This one doctor that I was talking to that was very adamant about that. | ||
| He goes, physical activity. | ||
| If you don't have physical activity, you might as well be a drinker and a smoker. | ||
| Yeah, you're fucked. | ||
| And then there's also that loneliness thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's a big one, man. | ||
| It's a big factor. | ||
| What percentage of folks... | ||
| Studies found the risk of developing lung cancer increases to 14% if you smoke cigarettes. | ||
| If you smoke one to five cigarettes per day, your risk is around 7.7%. | ||
| And if you smoke more than 35 cigarettes a day, you have a 26% chance of... | ||
| Whoa, that's a lot. | ||
| That's... | ||
| 35 cigarettes. | ||
| By 80, though. | ||
| By 80. I know. | ||
| That's like a whole lifetime of smoking 35... | ||
| What is that, a pack and a half? | ||
| Yeah, almost two. | ||
| Is two packs 40? | ||
| Yeah, 20 in a pack. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Two packs is still only... | ||
| That's three out of four. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Which, by the way, is the exact same number of FDA drugs that get pulled. | ||
| 25%. | ||
| Of all FDA-approved drugs get pulled because they've killed too many people. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| When they're like, oh, fuck! | ||
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| We didn't test it good enough. | ||
| Yeah, whoopsies. | ||
| We believe the pharmaceutical drug companies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was the weird one for me during the pandemic was the trust in the pharmaceutical drug companies. | ||
| And especially when I started talking to experts that actually spent their living litigating financial settlements for adverse effects of drugs. | ||
| And you find out that scientists, when you hear about peer reviewed data, they're not even allowed to see the actual data. | ||
| They see the analysis of the data by the pharmaceutical drug companies that performed the studies. | ||
| I'm of two minds about this, because on the one hand, I agree with you, and I've had similar experiences. | ||
| And on the other hand, I'm like, people, I don't fucking have time to do the research on all of these things myself. | ||
| And I have a lot of time. | ||
| Like, do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, I don't... | ||
| They are... | ||
| Everything's fucking corrupt. | ||
| And it's so aggravating and so, like, predictable because it's just human beings. | ||
| And they're just going to be corrupt. | ||
| And you just have to hope that the thing that you're... | ||
| The pill you're taking wasn't a victim of the corruption. | ||
| Or the operation. | ||
| Or even the stem cell. | ||
| Or whatever you do, you just have to hope... | ||
| It wasn't a victim of humanity. | ||
| And so I'm with you because I've heard shit about vaccines. | ||
| I've learned you can test for anything. | ||
| I've heard statisticians say you can make anything. | ||
| You can crunch numbers any way you want to get to what you need. | ||
| Well, they certainly have done that. | ||
| And that's the big Vioxx scandal. | ||
| In the emails when they released Vioxx, they literally said- Which one's Vioxx? | ||
| Vioxx is an anti-inflammatory that they use that is no better than non-steroidal anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen. | ||
| And it's killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 60,000 Americans before it was pulled. | ||
| Well, there was that other one, the antihistamine that wasn't anything. | ||
| What's that one? | ||
| The Sudafed one. | ||
| The one that was like a month and a half ago. | ||
| Most cough medicine wasn't medicine. | ||
| What? | ||
| Really? | ||
| I assumed you just did an emergency episode about this. | ||
| I've never even heard of it. | ||
| No, I don't even know what to look up. | ||
| Cough medicine isn't medicine. | ||
| Yeah, look up cough medicine isn't medicine. | ||
| It was fucking insane. | ||
| But again, my kid has a cold. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So my kids literally stuffed up this very second. | ||
| I'm a parent. | ||
| The fuck am I supposed to do? | ||
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| You get medicine. | ||
| This is medicine. | ||
| It's at the store. | ||
| Cough medicine. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| I got cough medicine for them. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| I'm a good parent. | ||
| This should knock it out. | ||
| And it turns out it's just a bunch of garbage. | ||
| What is it, Jamie? | ||
| Did you find anything? | ||
| I'm trying to dig through. | ||
| I got conflicting information real quick. | ||
| This is what happens, Joe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, the pharmaceutical drug companies are like little trolls. | ||
| They put up a bunch of fake studies. | ||
| Or shit's complicated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit is definitely complicated, but there's also a lot of financial issues. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| That's the issue. | ||
| It's with all this stuff. | ||
| It's like, shit's complicated, and people are corrupt, and people try to thwart information, and bad information rises, and there's no... | ||
| It's spider meme. | ||
| It's just everything's fucking incredibly complex. | ||
| O.J. was dead for about an hour before I saw people connecting to the vaccine. | ||
| O.J. was telling people to get vaccinated. | ||
| Well, maybe this guy who murdered his fucking wife and her boyfriend, maybe he was wracked with guilt his entire life and lived in a constant state of anxiety. | ||
| And everywhere he went, people yelled at him and called him a murderer. | ||
| And maybe he didn't sleep good. | ||
| By the way, still made it to 76! | ||
| Right, which is like, I think two years older than most people die. | ||
| I think the average age is like 72, 74. Like, what's the average American male life expectancy, Jamie? | ||
| Let's guess. | ||
| I'd say 72. I want to say 72. Well, black men is way lower. | ||
| And fucking football players is probably 58. Right. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| Which is interesting, too, because one of his attorneys said that if CTE, the information was available today like it was in 94, they would have used that in his defense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is kind of crazy. | ||
| But, well, has he found more innocent? | ||
| 76. So 76 years. | ||
| So he hit the number. | ||
| OJ. Good for you, Juice. | ||
| OJ landed exactly on the average American number. | ||
| Here's what I found. | ||
| So the FDA press release says this. | ||
| FDA advisor declares ineffectiveness of widely used over-the-counter decongestant active ingredient. | ||
| The active ingredient in decongestants was nothing. | ||
| Popular over-the-counter medicines for colds and allergies don't work, FDA panel said, and that's Sudafed. | ||
| What it really is, is it's like this ingredient in there. | ||
| Sudafed, Benadryl, and most decongestants don't work. | ||
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| The over-the-counter antihistamine Benadryl is not being pulled from the pharmacy shelves. | ||
| Misleading headlines, it says. | ||
| Despite miscellany headlines such as Sudafed, Benadryl, and most decongestants don't work, they're not being pulled from pharmacy shelves. | ||
| A FDA Food and Drug Administration Advisory Committee voted 16-0 on Tuesday that current scientific data does not support the use of active ingredient phenylephrine? | ||
| Phenylephrine? | ||
| And over-the-counter products such as Benadryl, algae, plus decongestion. | ||
| This does not, however, pertain to antihistamines such as Benadryl, which contain the active ingredient diphenhydramine. | ||
| Yeah, this is already confused. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm already like, wait, what? | ||
| They're probably monkeying around with the stuff just to try to get it a little less scammy. | ||
| It's a nasal decongestant. | ||
| Okay, brand names of the medications include... | ||
| Phenylephrine, such as Benadryl, have other products with distinct active ingredients. | ||
| So there's one ingredient that doesn't work. | ||
| Okay, so maybe they do work. | ||
| The FDA committee voted on the question of whether or not the evidence supported the use of the active... | ||
| How is that word? | ||
| Moiti? | ||
| Moiti? | ||
| Moiti phenylephrine as an effective nasal decongestant. | ||
| The panel concluded that products which include phenylephrine are not effective against nasal congestion, though they were not deemed unsafe. | ||
| But they don't work. | ||
| Parts of them work. | ||
| One of the ingredients is nothing. | ||
| But it says that the products that include phenylephrine are not effective against nasal congestion. | ||
| They were not deemed unsafe. | ||
| That still says it doesn't work, right. | ||
| Yeah, there might be other ingredients that do work. | ||
| But they might not work either. | ||
| We'll have to wait and see. | ||
| Though the FDA is not bound to the committee's recommendations, why should it be? | ||
| It's only science. | ||
| Very likely the agency will follow its advice. | ||
| In turn, this may lead to pharmacies pulling products containing oral phenylphrine, at least until acceptably reformulated versions are offered. | ||
| There are branded products that include names Sudafed and Benadryl that do work as nasal decongestants. | ||
| They contain the active ingredient pseudoephrine. | ||
| Pseudoephedrine. | ||
| Pseudoephedrine. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But because the dangerous illicit substance methamphetamine can be made in illegal laboratories with pseudoephedrine, these products were placed behind the counter years ago. | ||
| In 2005, Congress passed the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act, which required pharmacies and other retail stores to maintain purchase locks. | ||
| Yeah, you got to show your driver's license. | ||
| I remember I bought some of that stuff once and I was like, what? | ||
| What do I have to do? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they were like, yeah, people can make meth with this. | ||
| And you were like, do you know who I am? | ||
| I'm never going to stop talking about that. | ||
| I'm like, how much meth can you make off of one of these things? | ||
| Is it enough? | ||
| Like, how many of these things? | ||
| No, yeah, they would go from pharmacy to pharmacy. | ||
| And just get boxes and boxes of it. | ||
| Dirtbags, yeah. | ||
| And then cook it up. | ||
| It's just like, just fucking get a job. | ||
| Duh! | ||
| Also, just get Adderall. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They'll prescribe that to you. | ||
| Well, yeah, we're running short, Joe. | ||
| Apparently we are, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're running short on Adderall. | ||
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| Yeah, so, no, it's interesting to see, you know, you and people we've known so long being held up as like, you know, when it's like, what was the thing you, Fitzsimmons helped you steal back a car radio or something? | ||
| Didn't Fitzsimmons, when you were roommates, you dated his roommate? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I jumped a fence because my car got towed and they had my radio in it. | ||
| I jumped a fence to get my radio. | ||
| So that's the joke me and Fitzsimmons have whenever there's a headline like White House concern with Joe Rogan. | ||
| We're like, I bet this is about the radio, right? | ||
| Him jumping the fence to steal that car radio in 1990. Yeah, I forgot about that. | ||
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He was like, what are you doing? | |
| I'm like, I'm gonna hop this fence. | ||
| Get my fucking radio. | ||
| Yeah, and he ate it and abetted it. | ||
| But it is like, hey, who should... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe you and Dave are as good as it. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You know, everybody should be able to discuss things. | ||
| And the problem is, I can discuss things and millions of people hear it. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| And do you ever... | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm... | ||
| I guess I'm wondering, like, does it... | ||
| I think you're right to not pay attention. | ||
| But does a part of you go like, should I be paying more attention to this? | ||
| Should I be more concerned about being a news outlet or whatever the fuck you're supposed to be on? | ||
| I think I'm very careful about certain things. | ||
| And I'm very careful that I... At least now, that I know what I'm talking about. | ||
| Or I say, I don't know what I'm talking about. | ||
| Like, be clear. | ||
| And then also... | ||
| You know, if you know something and you don't say it and that thing can benefit people or they can inform their decision making, you should say it. | ||
| It's important, especially if you know things. | ||
| If you absolutely know something to be a fact, like, say it. | ||
| And especially if you realize there's, like, immense pressure from these financial institutions or, you know, pharmaceutical drug companies or whatever it is to not say that thing because it's going to, it's going to Do you ever feel squeezed? | ||
| Not squeezed, but do you ever feel people floating information to you? | ||
| Oh, I definitely have conversations with people where I'm like, this person's feeding me bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Yeah, you have to learn how to navigate those waters. | ||
| I definitely think people have probably been angled to come on this show to feed me bullshit or are feeding me bullshit once they get on the show. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| And you have to kind of make a decision then. | ||
| Do I even air this? | ||
| Do I not air this? | ||
| How do I dance around this? | ||
| It seems like we should pause this and actually research it before we go any further. | ||
| Because I feel like I'm being fucked with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it is, it is, there is, it's the, the institution news media, institutional news, uh, uh, legacy media or whatever. | ||
| It's another one of those like 77 year old women who still think they're fine. | ||
| It's like, you can't fucking lie. | ||
| If you pretend you have a monopoly on the truth, uh, You know what you have to only say is the truth. | ||
| It can't be... | ||
| Obviously there's biases, whatever, human biases everywhere, and institutional biases, but some of these people are so lazy. | ||
| Well, it's just like you were saying with the 75-year-old woman that still thinks she's hot. | ||
| The news still thinks that people believe them. | ||
| And I encountered that when they were saying that I was taking horse medication. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You mean the horse medication that won the Nobel Prize as an anti-malarial? | ||
| That one? | ||
| Like four years ago? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Four years before and now it's for horses? | ||
| Well, everything's for horses. | ||
| Well, yeah, everything's a horse medication if the horse is sick enough. | ||
| Grass is fucking everything if a horse eats it. | ||
| They're so dumb that they thought that they could do that, which is absolutely wild. | ||
| But that just shows you the arrogance of those organizations. | ||
| They're so full of shit and so captured by money that they're willing to lie. | ||
| And not just lie, but lie with the same lie across multiple platforms. | ||
| And they're doing it specifically because they're being told to do that. | ||
| Yeah, and they're just hemorrhaging credibility. | ||
| Like, for what? | ||
| For nothing. | ||
| For one thing that is going to last for a year or so until people realize what the fuck is going on, and now you're doomed. | ||
| And now everyone's going to go, yeah, but they lied about that. | ||
| What do they say about Iran? | ||
| What do they say about Syria? | ||
| What do they say about this and nuclear energy? | ||
| What do they say about pollution? | ||
| Well, what's funny is it is super... | ||
| It complicates things... | ||
| What are they saying about Israel? | ||
| Gaza and Israel feels like the most modern... | ||
| 20 years ago, this would have been open and shut. | ||
| 20 years ago, it would have been 9-11, right? | ||
| They did this, we're going in, and anything we do is justifiable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And now it's, they did this, we're going in, and they're going with the 77-year-old former fine woman, and they're doing shit thinking that they can get away with it, and now it's like, ah... | ||
| Now everyone's watching, all the shit that slowly leaked and came out Abu Ghraib, all the sort of severe violations, now it's all happening on the daily. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it makes things, it's so, everything's so complicated. | ||
| It's so complicated. | ||
| One of the interesting things about the Israel thing was that, you know, Hamas attacks on October 7th, and within days, there's pro-Hamas rallies. | ||
| So before Israel has even retaliated... | ||
| Douglas Murray's talked about this a lot. | ||
| That was the most insane. | ||
| And I think that is one of those things where I am very inclined to think that that is fueled by foreign actors. | ||
| I'm very inclined to think that TikTok algorithms and bots and all these different things fed a lot of these hyper-woke kids into taking this contrarian stance against the popular narrative that Israel was just attacked and said, no, Israel's an oppressor, and look what they've done to Palestine. | ||
| It justifies it, and what else can they do? | ||
| What else can they do besides go door to door and rape and murder people? | ||
| Is that really what we're saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That you should cheer them? | ||
| I know! | ||
| And then Israel does shit all the time that you're like, fucking don't do that. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| But at the same time, I'm like, I'm not... | ||
| Yeah, it's like... | ||
| Bro, imagine living there, though. | ||
| Imagine living either in Israel or Palestine and trying to find a solution to that. | ||
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Good. | |
| Fuck. | ||
| Once you start researching it, you just go, fucking, this is not... | ||
| I don't think I can figure this baby out. | ||
| This is a video game that you just toss the controller. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't even like this kind of game. | ||
| And I was reading today that there's the State Department's warning that Iran is planning attacks on Israel. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And do you have nukes? | ||
| Do they have nukes yet? | ||
| I know they've been working on a nuclear program forever. | ||
| What if they're the first person to use it and they use it on Jerusalem? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, and but people think that they have they know what it should be and it's like do you get anxiety thinking about like world events ever? | ||
| Yeah, I I Get it less so Less so in that which we can talk about a little bit, but but less so just in turn my own personal development, but it's If I had kids I would really, really worry about it. | ||
| About the future? | ||
| Yeah, I'm involved with a woman who has a kid, so it's growing, my paternalism, but... | ||
| Yeah, this is a pretty rough time. | ||
| It's a weird time. | ||
| It's a really weird time. | ||
| But I think every time is a weird time. | ||
| In the 1960s, during the Vietnam War, people were terrified of the future. | ||
| I remember during George Floyd, Chris Rock goes, this is every week in the 60s. | ||
| Martin Luther King and Malcolm X both got assassinated. | ||
| Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and Bobby Kennedy and John Kennedy. | ||
| Real quickly. | ||
| Over the course of a few years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's just we develop societal amnesia and we try to remember the past as some sort of a utopian time. | ||
| But then if you look at the documentaries about the weather underground, there's always been wild shit happening in this country. | ||
| But it's also, back then, wild shit you really only heard about through large corporate media. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's the funny thing. | ||
| Now it's like we're getting... | ||
| You don't need to leak Abu Ghraib. | ||
| You don't need to leak Gitmo photos. | ||
| It's all coming out that afternoon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then now there's the rise of independent journalism. | ||
| You know, the Glenn Greenwalds, Matt Taibbi, some people that you can actually trust. | ||
| Michael Schellenberger, people that are on the street, and they're not attached to any large corporate media outlet. | ||
| And that's very important because now you get a, if you're willing to do the work and willing to read what they're saying, you get a much more balanced, nuanced perspective on what the factors are and what all these different contributing factors that are so hard to sort out with everything. | ||
| Like if you try to pay attention to what's happening in Brazil right now, you're like, oh my god, what the fuck? | ||
| If you try to pay attention to what's happening in any other foreign country. | ||
| Anywhere. | ||
| Anywhere. | ||
| Literally like Canada. | ||
| Shit that used to be like a gimme. | ||
| Like, oh, Canada's fucking fine. | ||
| And then you go like, what the fuck? | ||
| Mexico. | ||
| Just go. | ||
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Let's start at the top and go down. | |
| Finland. | ||
| Denmark. | ||
| Iceland. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| And then how is mass immigration, illegal immigration, ubiquitous? | ||
| How is it everywhere in the world, all at one point in time? | ||
| How is like islands in Italy getting overrun with these African immigrants that are coming over on boats? | ||
| Somebody made a really good observation, which is migration. | ||
| It's been happening in all of human history. | ||
| But not like this. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| Well, the statistics in the country, in this country, they're really easy to find. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm saying probably not relative to 17. They probably didn't have, like, great records until pretty recently. | ||
| Well, they didn't have an open border policy until really recently. | ||
| It wasn't as easy to come across. | ||
| You also weren't being incentivized. | ||
| You weren't being given money. | ||
| You weren't being given housing and shelter. | ||
| And much to the demise of the people that are poor that live there that are American citizens that are freaking the fuck out in these poor communities. | ||
| And you also know that immigration helps the economy. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, that's the thing it provides. | ||
| Everything's fucking like, yeah, but also... | ||
| So, that's where I go, I don't know. | ||
| That's Tim Dillon's perspective. | ||
| He thinks they're bringing in cheap labor. | ||
| He thinks you can't get people to work. | ||
| Well, it's that, too. | ||
| Including, like, our... | ||
| Great grandparents. | ||
| Like, it was just, they needed jobs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They needed jobs, and then the reason, I don't, did you read the Cliff Nesteroff book about comedians getting cancelled historically? | ||
| No. | ||
| You might want to have them on here. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| I read it, like, not long ago. | ||
| K-L-I-P-H book Nesteroff, N-E-S-T. What is K-L-I-P-H? That's his name, Cliff. | ||
| Oh, Cliff. | ||
| Yeah, Cliff Nassaroff. | ||
| Comedians, drunks, thieves, scoundrels. | ||
| No, the outrageous history of showbiz, that one. | ||
| But the reason why so many Jewish people, Irish people, and black people became comedians, it was just because they couldn't get jobs anywhere else. | ||
| Lenny Bruce. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, like, why they get canceled, who gets canceled. | ||
| And it's been happening. | ||
| Guys saying, I can't say anything in 1938. Right. | ||
| Like, it's so... | ||
| It's, like, kind of a tale as old as time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, yeah, like, people came for... | ||
| For... | ||
| Yeah, it's... | ||
| All of these things. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And... | ||
| And it helps the economy. | ||
| There's a meme that I found online that is so funny because it's from 1934. It's a cartoon from 1934 that's basically saying exactly what everyone is worried about today, both on the right and on the left. | ||
| I'm going to send this to you, Jamie. | ||
| About the government. | ||
| It's crazy because This is the same story. | ||
| It's a hundred years later. | ||
| It's the same story. | ||
| Pull that up. | ||
| It's the same one as like Jews are subhuman and superhuman? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Plan of action for US. Spend, spend, spend under the guise of recovery. | ||
| Bust the government. | ||
| Blame the capitalists for the failure. | ||
| Junk the Constitution and declare a dictatorship. | ||
| The cartoon appeared in the Chicago Tribune in 1934. Yeah. | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| Yeah, the government is spying on you, and they're inept. | ||
| It says up there, it worked in Russia, so that's Stalin, I guess, is writing that out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it's... | ||
| It's always been the fear. | ||
| But this time does feel pretty specific. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This does feel especially grim, this period of history. | ||
| But yeah, the anxiety thing, that's curious to me. | ||
| I'm not curious, but I'm interested in the fact that it does give you anxiety. | ||
| Does it give you anxiety for your, is it humanity overall? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, it's humanity overall. | ||
| I get it at night. | ||
| I get it at night because usually that's when I'm high. | ||
| Usually when I'm writing, when I'm high, I get real anxiety. | ||
| Because usually also everyone else in my house is asleep. | ||
| So it's just me and it's late at night and I'm just doom scrolling and I'm writing and I'm just thinking about the future. | ||
| And I genuinely get this fear of angst. | ||
| Like what happens if everything goes totally sideways? | ||
| Which has happened historically all over the world. | ||
| With incredible regularity. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost predictable. | ||
| And there's always been instances where society was like thrown into chaos. | ||
| Even the democracy thing. | ||
| It's the same way like when you look up, where is abortion legal? | ||
| Where are they putting Florida in the water? | ||
| Look up where there's democracy and how long it's been there. | ||
| This is the oldest one, guys. | ||
| And it's not even 300 years old. | ||
| It's like, this is the oldest one, then there's France, England, and there's not that many of them now. | ||
| And there's never been one like this, and this one is only 300 years old. | ||
| Which is a blip. | ||
| It's a nothing. | ||
| Yes, relative to, and it really, and it does, it is that thing of like, you have to foster it, you gotta water it, and you gotta till the feet, you gotta vote, you gotta get, you gotta research, you gotta do all the shit, and it's, but as we can both attest, like, it's worth it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, this is the greatest experiment in self-government the world's ever experienced. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And it's also, because of this, this country has achieved so many amazing milestones creatively. | ||
| Like, how much music has come from America? | ||
| I mean, how much of, like, popular music that the world hears? | ||
| The airplane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's us. | ||
| The internet. | ||
| The car. | ||
| The car. | ||
| The computer. | ||
| Yeah, all of it. | ||
| Like, these are not small things. | ||
| Stand-up comedy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, stand-up comedy was invented here, and it's done best by people from here still, to this day. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And that's just undeniable. | ||
| You know, good luck. | ||
| Good luck trying to do what we do. | ||
| Yeah, it's just not the same. | ||
| No, but there's a few guys. | ||
| There's Ricky Gervais and Jimmy Carr and a couple others. | ||
| But the reality is, there's a lot more here. | ||
| A whole lot more. | ||
| Selling out arenas. | ||
| And good. | ||
| Good comedians. | ||
| I think this is the best time for comedy that's ever existed. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Oh, in terms of the amount of really good people who are throwing the ball very fast? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I couldn't agree more. | ||
| I couldn't agree more. | ||
| This is the time. | ||
| This is the golden age of comedy. | ||
| And you know, Ari always says this, that this is a great time for comedy because comedy is dangerous again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Comic's dangerous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is like the Red Fox After Dark Records thing now. | ||
| But now it's more... | ||
| Weirdly, now it's more like Douglas Murray books and speeches. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Those are like the contraband. | ||
| I want to ask about the anxiety thing, because when you... | ||
| Do you get... | ||
| Do you worry about the safety of your loved ones? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Do you worry about, like, your shit hits the fan plan? | ||
| Because my plan is, hey, I've done Joe Rogan. | ||
| When people come up, I go, you may remember me from Joe Rogan. | ||
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We're good, right? | |
| Preppers? | ||
| The preppers come for you? | ||
| They're not going to come for you. | ||
| The people that are going to come for you are the people that aren't preppers. | ||
| The people that don't have any food. | ||
| That's what's going to be scary. | ||
| I don't have any either though. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's good. | ||
| Hopefully you don't have any guns. | ||
| Hopefully you don't have anything valuable that they can take. | ||
| Do you think it's worth having a gun? | ||
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Yes. | |
| It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. | ||
| Always. | ||
| It doesn't hurt you to have a gun. | ||
| Especially if you're smart and you take care of it and you lock them up and you know how to use them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, you know, one of the funniest things is people like, you should give up your AR-15. | ||
| You don't need it. | ||
| You should send it to Ukraine so they could fight the Russians. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| Do you see what you're saying? | ||
| Like, they're literally fighting against an oppressive force. | ||
| And if they're unarmed, you should arm them. | ||
| Well, what happens if something like that happens here? | ||
| And you're saying that it can't? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I mean, I did a joke in the last special. | ||
| The idea that it can't happen here is crazy. | ||
| The idea of, like, taking out—there should be a—every year they should have a—guys who are, like, hoarding weapons, thinking that they could take on the government. | ||
| We should every year have an NRA military showdown where it's 100 guys from the NRA versus, like, three guys from the military, and they're just going to drone them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| The guys from the military, the guys who sign up for the military are the guys who don't want to do that. | ||
| They're the patriots. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Like turning them on Americans. | ||
| So this is the big fear about immigration is that you're going to take these immigrants and you're going to indoctrinate them into the military. | ||
| And they'll be willing to do things that United States citizens won't be willing to do because nobody wants to join the military anymore. | ||
| Oh, you think that? | ||
| Is that? | ||
| That's a big fear amongst the heavy-duty conspiracy theorists. | ||
| They're worried that they're going to conscript these people. | ||
| Like, you can get... | ||
| Like, look, they're doing that in Russia, where they're saying, fight in the Ukraine war, and we'll let you out of jail. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So they're taking prisoners with life sentences and using them as cannon fodder. | ||
| Heck of a movie, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, and it's happening. | ||
| I mean, they're literally using them. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| And it's real, like, some monsters. | ||
| Monsters. | ||
| That they're letting out. | ||
| Yep, monsters. | ||
| And they're doing monstrous shit, too. | ||
| I've heard they're doing it to other Russians. | ||
| These are not, like, rational people. | ||
| No, they're psychos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, full-on psychos. | ||
| And psychos in Russia, that's another level of psychos. | ||
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Oh, forget it. | |
| Shut it down. | ||
| Yeah, a long history of violence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And also loss. | ||
| Like, the loss that they experienced during the World War. | ||
| Like, people... | ||
| They always... | ||
| Everyone talks about... | ||
| What happened with Israel, what happened with the Jews, what happened with the United States, our military, Japan, Russia lost a lot of fucking people. | ||
| And if it wasn't for Russia, we might not have even fought off the Nazis. | ||
| I don't think there's any dispute there. | ||
| I think that was like they kind of kept their attention on the East. | ||
| And they have such a long history of conflict and loss and their willingness to have people die. | ||
| Well, that's what somebody told me is like Putin's whole thing is just like, we're always at war. | ||
| We always will be at war. | ||
| Let me lead us. | ||
| And he's a warrior, which is really scary. | ||
| When you've got a guy who's a KGB guy that becomes the head of the country. | ||
| I mean, again, it's the hammer thing. | ||
| All you have is a hammer. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't. | ||
| Well, that's what somebody was saying. | ||
| It's like, they don't have much industry. | ||
| Also, he kills everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anybody. | ||
| Political opponents. | ||
| Anybody who's questioning him. | ||
| You get poisoned. | ||
| You get fucking drone bombed. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Yeah, you don't even gotta be in Russia. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They got a guy in... | ||
| They popped a guy in Spain a few months ago. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They'll pop you everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Poison. | ||
| And we kind of do that too. | ||
| I'm sure we do that. | ||
| The idea that we're innocent and that we don't have CIA assassins that go and whack dissidents. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'll take your logic. | ||
| Can we still condemn what he does? | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| First of all- What if he does it ten times worse than us? | ||
| You definitely can condemn what he's done in Ukraine. | ||
| You can definitely condemn bombing Kyiv. | ||
| You can definitely condemn a lot. | ||
| You definitely can. | ||
| But you also got to condemn the NATO for moving their fucking arms closer to the Russian border and crossing that boundary and trying to get Ukraine to join NATO, which has always been his red line. | ||
| There's a lot of really shifty international politics. | ||
| I'm of the mind that NATO's never invaded anyone. | ||
| I get that they're trying to get the point you made about trying to get people to move to Austin. | ||
| They haven't been around that long. | ||
| No, I know they haven't. | ||
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But they definitely are involved in arming people. | |
| Yeah, I'm with you. | ||
| I just don't think they're an invasion. | ||
| They're too disorganized. | ||
| They need consensus from fucking however many countries are in NATO to like, we're gonna... | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| And then who's gonna govern? | ||
| Whatever, whatever. | ||
| But the idea is pushing arms closer to the borders of Russia to make an attack easier and quicker. | ||
| And all those things influence foreign policy. | ||
| Those things are dangerous. | ||
| They're creepy. | ||
| Yeah, I'm with you, but I don't... | ||
| Is it, is he, is NATO perfect? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| But, like, what he's doing is just aggressive bullying, like, hey man, we're trying to have a world where people can't do that anymore. | ||
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Right. | |
| We're trying to get, because it breeds chaos. | ||
| My point is that it's complicated. | ||
| Like, we, the United States was involved in the coup in 2014. We instigated it. | ||
| We provided weapons and money. | ||
| We were a part of that. | ||
| There's been a lot of those throughout history. | ||
| I mean, we fuck around. | ||
| We Googled it the other day. | ||
| How many countries the United States has military bases in it? | ||
| Isn't it like 90? | ||
| What was it again, Jamie? | ||
| Fucking military bases everywhere. | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| It's like the way America worked was, it's like there's a moral framework. | ||
| Louis had a great joke about it where he was talking about himself. | ||
| He's like, I have all sorts of ethics and standards. | ||
| I don't follow any of them, but I have them. | ||
| Like, I have standards for myself. | ||
| And America, the game was that we would... | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| There's 750 military bases in at least 80 countries. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| The number maybe even higher is not all data is published by the Pentagon. | ||
| Yeah, but Joe, Joe, we're American. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| This is better us than China. | ||
| Well, that's what I mean. | ||
| Yeah, it's better us than Russia. | ||
| The game we always played was like, yeah, we do shit. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| And now everything's transparent. | ||
| Or it's like significantly more transparent. | ||
| And people have no tolerance for hypocrisy. | ||
| It used to just kind of be like side papers. | ||
| You'd go like, America's kind of a fucking hypocritical... | ||
| And now, because of social media, it's like, I gotcha! | ||
| It's like, yeah, fuckin', we're hypocrites. | ||
| Yeah, well, that always leads me back to that Smedley Butler paper that he wrote in 1933, which is War is a Racket. | ||
| He was this famous military man who, upon retiring, reflected upon his career and said, like, the whole thing was a racket. | ||
| I thought it was protecting people, it was protecting banks, and this is what war really is all about. | ||
| And that still holds true today. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's the military-industrial complex speech, kind of. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And, yeah, it's the, I think the agreement was corruption and then, but stability. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now it's, corruption's been revealed and now it's super unstable. | ||
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| Like, now we can see all the corruption, and shit feels real, and you can't sleep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's better? | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| I also think the erosion of the confidence of the government in this country is dangerous. | ||
| Because people, there's kids on the street that are saying, you know, we want to overthrow the United States government and get rid of all the colonizers. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| I know! | ||
| But they could clip the fuck out of you and show a reason they should be suspicious of the government. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Whatever, the pharmaceutical companies or the NIH or the White House, you're skeptical. | ||
| And the problem is, I think there's not a problem, but you're skeptical, you know the limits of your skepticism. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Whereas everybody else just goes, limitless skepticism. | ||
| I don't trust anything. | ||
| They're young. | ||
| They just got out of college. | ||
| They have no debt. | ||
| Well, they have debt, maybe. | ||
| But they don't have any life. | ||
| Their life has just begun, and they want to throw it. | ||
| This country's corrupt. | ||
| Let's just burn it all down. | ||
| And then do what? | ||
| And then do what? | ||
| Do you want to be Saudi Arabia? | ||
| Where are you going to go? | ||
| There was a basketball coach after the Celtics dynasty, after Larry Bird, Robert Parrish, all this stuff, and then Rick Pitino was the coach, and they sucked. | ||
| And he said to the press, Larry Bird ain't walking through that door. | ||
| And that's how it is with all these kids. | ||
| It's like there's no better leader. | ||
| There's no, for the women, there's no better men. | ||
| There's no like, this is it. | ||
| We're gonna make do with this. | ||
| You want to help or not? | ||
| Or you just want to mope? | ||
| And also, everyone's corrupt. | ||
| And you should be skeptical, but to the point where it's like, when does pure skepticism become chaos? | ||
| When can you not believe traffic lights? | ||
| They get so frustrated at all they do want to burn it all down, but they don't have a solution. | ||
| They don't have like a working solution of what happens once it gets burned down. | ||
| What I worry about is I think the government is so inept and I think the confidence in the government is so low. | ||
| That if something goes sideways, it's not going to be like everybody waits for the government to tell us what to do. | ||
| You're going to have chaos in the streets, just like the George Floyd riots. | ||
| You're just going to have that all over the place. | ||
| That's the real fear. | ||
| People with nothing will revolt, and guns are everywhere, and it could get real sketchy. | ||
| Yes, or you go, it's chaos. | ||
| It's 1968, 1969. And then you see cops beating up protesters, and you're like, Alright, this is hard because I'm for the protesters and, you know, I need order. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As a human being, I would like, it's the freedom and safety. | ||
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| It's the, it's the two sort of, the two things that hang in the balance. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And I don't, it's funny to hear you say that you get, you get anxious at night. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Based on this world. | ||
| Because, because, It's always at night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's always at night when I'm alone with my thoughts because I just realize all the things that could go sideways at any given time. | ||
| One thing, one big thing, one big event. | ||
| And it doesn't even have to be an attack. | ||
| It could be a natural event. | ||
| One natural event and we're fucked. | ||
| One solar flare that takes out the grid, we're fucked. | ||
| Yeah, and even, and to the George Floyd point, it's like, they shouldn't have fucking killed the guy. | ||
| And people should, people can protest police brutality. | ||
| That's all, like, the cops were wrong in how they handled that, and the protesters, we are, it's part of our government, it's part of our society, it's part of our constitution. | ||
| We can, and then it's like, defund the police, and I'm like, no, but, now, Yeah. | ||
| You had me. | ||
| We're not. | ||
| I fucking need cops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Need them. | ||
| And then all those polls of low-income people were like, no, we want cops. | ||
| So it's the tyranny of the minority thing. | ||
| Well, there's also the problem with the autopsy. | ||
| The autopsy of George Floyd showed that he had lethal levels of fentanyl in his system, that he was going to die anyway. | ||
| I heard they wasn't lethal. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I mean, I've seen things where the levels of fentanyl were days old and whatever. | ||
| Well, he had an enlarged heart. | ||
| He was suffering from all sorts of ailments, like cardiovascular ailments. | ||
| And he did have a high level of fentanyl in his system that I think is in the lethal threshold. | ||
| And then you have this high stress event, being arrested, also being compressed. | ||
| Someone's pressing down on your body, restricting your breathing, and you're panicking, you're freaking out. | ||
| Very possible to have a heart attack there. | ||
| Both things. | ||
| So maybe by himself he wouldn't have had. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you're of the mind maybe that he had fentanyl in the system and it was not great police procedure? | ||
| Well, it's 100% not great police procedure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But also that guy had a history of abuse. | ||
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| No, but that's what I mean. | ||
| So then people protest, et cetera. | ||
| But the question is, did he actually kill that guy? | ||
| Was that guy dying? | ||
| You know what I think happened a lot? | ||
| Because I had read that... | ||
| When they did the initial autopsy, they didn't find that his death was because of constriction. | ||
| It wasn't because of compressed arteries or any of that. | ||
| You know what I fear happens a lot? | ||
| This is a good example. | ||
| Let's find out, though. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So, you're of the mind, I'm of the mind of like, that was wrong. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then you go, yes, but he did have fentanyl. | ||
| No, I'm of the mind that that was wrong too, that that's police brutality and abuse and probably not necessary. | ||
| Like, it wasn't like he was thrashing and trying to attack. | ||
| Like, you could have restrained that guy, cuffed him, and that would have been it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So my point is, so it's not, but he was on fentanyl. | ||
| Let's say that was awful police work and he was on fentanyl. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So let's say the police work was good and the guy wound up dying. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then you say, oh, he died of a fentanyl overdose. | ||
| But if you look at the way they handled them, it was humane. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah, now would there have been, who knows? | ||
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Probably not. | |
| Now it's just like historically. | ||
| Well that happens all the time. | ||
| What I worry though. | ||
| People always get arrested and they die of overdoses. | ||
| That happens all the time. | ||
| But then you could use Narcon. | ||
| Yeah, but sometimes they don't, you know, there's like, you've read that where it's like sometimes they just go like, fuck it. | ||
| I've saved this guy too many times. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like it's just cops being like, fuck, I'm so sick of saving drug addicts all day. | ||
| Like people that don't even seem to want to live. | ||
| So what I worry that's happening culturally, and literally pick an issue, Israel, COVID, George Floyd, whatever, is there's these contradictory, not even contradictory piece of information. | ||
| It's not a simple narrative, right? | ||
| So I think a lot of times people just declare a mistrial in their head. | ||
| They go, fuck it. | ||
| Somebody's lying. | ||
| I'm getting the fuck out of here. | ||
| There's no justice. | ||
| Everything's too gray. | ||
| Whereas 30, 40 years ago it would have been they just killed a guy. | ||
| There's no video. | ||
| Well, there's like black and white, like Kent State, right? | ||
| That's a black and white one. | ||
| The National Guard comes in, shoots protesters, everybody's outraged, it's horrible. | ||
| Yeah, there are, but now it's, Kent State happens today, maybe they actually, there's a second video, it becomes, it's almost like the Kennedy assassination. | ||
| Everything's kind of the Kennedy assassination. | ||
| And where it is a lot of content, and then people go, fuck it. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
| And I think that's where not even, sometimes maybe it's nefarious actors, and other times it's just people who want to be contrary or whatever. | ||
| There's so much information, and there's a limited bandwidth for people's attention span and time in a day that they just go, I don't know what fucking happened. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| And that's the thing with boomers. | ||
| Like, you know, RFK's talked about this a lot, that boomers only pay attention to legacy media. | ||
| They're not reading independent journalist reports. | ||
| Don't you think it's less so, though? | ||
| Like meaning like it's a lot of Facebook links to sort of shifty websites. | ||
| Some people now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think there's some of that now. | ||
| But I think there's still a lot of people that just put their faith in mainstream, especially people that aren't online on a regular basis or they're only friends with people that are their age. | ||
| And so they have this sort of like mentality, the way they consume news and information. | ||
| It's kind of always been the same way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like COVID, again, I'm sorry to bring this up for the listeners and myself. | ||
| But, so, there was the tachycardia thing, and the heart rate thing, that was like people, it was elevating people's heart. | ||
| Like, that was one of the main side effects, right? | ||
| And they acted like it wasn't much, and then fairly recently there was like, actually there was more than we thought. | ||
| I wonder, but then I've also heard from people that are skeptical, it's like, it's a pretty good vaccine, in terms of like, lowering numbers of infections. | ||
| And, but I think most people got the first wave of like, you have to take this, this is a perfect vaccine. | ||
| And then they heard this thing of like, it's not perfect. | ||
| And then they, they got tired of it. | ||
| Well, it's been lied to from the very beginning. | ||
| First thing, they didn't even test it to see if it stops transmission, but yet they said it did. | ||
| They didn't even test it to see if it stops you from being infected, but yet they said it does. | ||
| All it does is impart some form of immunity that's specific to the wild virus, the first version. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the way they studied it and the way they tested it is so fucking corrupt. | ||
| Just the fact that they said that it's 100% effective against stopping death. | ||
| Do you know how they came up with that number? | ||
| Two people in the control group got COVID and died. | ||
| One person in the vaccine group got COVID and died. | ||
| So that makes it 100% effective. | ||
| When RFK told me that, I'm like, there's no way that's it. | ||
| And then we read the actual studies and like, oh my god, that actually is it. | ||
| And they're allowed to say that. | ||
| Yeah, it's technically true. | ||
| Technically you can get away with a lot. | ||
| But it's also like the VAERS system. | ||
| I mean, the reporting of adverse effects is very underutilized. | ||
| And so we all know people that have had bad side effects from the vaccine. | ||
| And the question is how many of them kept their mouth shut? | ||
| How many of them are quiet? | ||
| How many of them are suffering? | ||
| How many of them the doctors are unwilling to connect it to the vaccine? | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
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I know. | |
| I personally know more. | ||
| Well, it's all fucking empirical. | ||
| So who gives a shit? | ||
| It's like, well, I happen to know who gives a shit. | ||
| One person. | ||
| But yeah, but I wonder what the way forward is. | ||
| With any of this stuff, because that thing of people just going, fuck it, I declare a mistrial. | ||
| That's probably not great for society. | ||
| Did you find anything about George Floyd's toxicology? | ||
| Yeah, I'm looking. | ||
| I'll just show you what I'm finding. | ||
| I believe this is the autopsy report. | ||
| It shows that there was 11 nanograms per milliliter, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I have no idea if that's high or not. | ||
| What's lethal? | ||
| 10 to 20? | ||
| This is what Google says is lethal for humans. | ||
| Lethal dose is 2. Recommend serum concentration is 1 to 20 nanograms per milliliter for anesthesia and 10 to 20 milligrams per liter. | ||
| Blood concentration... | ||
| What's that, Jamie? | ||
| You'd be in the anesthesia range? | ||
| That's what he had in his system. | ||
| So what's lethal? | ||
| That's right here. | ||
| Lethal dose. | ||
| It's 2 milligrams. | ||
| So he had nanograms? | ||
| So he had 11 nanograms, which is significantly lower than 2 milligrams? | ||
| Is that what they're saying? | ||
| That's what that says. | ||
| He also had norefentanyl. | ||
| It was 5.6 nanograms per milliliter. | ||
| So did it say that he had cocaine? | ||
| Caffeine. | ||
| He had caffeine. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Oh, not even cocaine. | ||
| Cotinine. | ||
| I was looking through it to find out what it says is the conclusion. | ||
| 11-hydroxy-delta-9, so he had bullshit THC in him. | ||
| He had that fake THC. I know, but 15 years ago, that would have been the lead story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Negative for ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, and acetone. | ||
| Methamphetamine, 19 nanograms per milliliter. | ||
| So he had a lot of shit in his system. | ||
| Yeah, but he doesn't deserve to die. | ||
| It may or may not have contributed to his death. | ||
| It's like shit that you can't prove, but once that's in the air, it creates this... | ||
| Sense of like, we'll never know what happened. | ||
| Also the video. | ||
| You see him saying, I can't breathe. | ||
| You see the whole thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I just worry about the sort of haze of all this shit now. | ||
| Of everything. | ||
| Does any study say that he had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system? | ||
| Why do people keep repeating that? | ||
| All I was seeing in that was a bunch of people saying that. | ||
| I know, and you're not repeating it malevolently. | ||
| You just heard it repeatedly. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You're not trying to make the guy look bad or whatever. | ||
| No, but a lot of people are. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| They made that documentary. | ||
| What documentary? | ||
| There was a whole documentary about it, and then that got debunked about George Floyd. | ||
| And what does the documentary say? | ||
| All the fentanyl and all that stuff. | ||
| That would have killed him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No evidence. | ||
| Drug overdose was the main cause of death for George Floyd. | ||
| So this is from what year? | ||
| 2022. 2022. So social media users make a claim that George Floyd killed, actually died from drug overdose. | ||
| These claims are misleading. | ||
| Official medical and court records rule the police restraint, not drug use, is the main cause of death and evidence to support the claim that George Floyd... | ||
| Lethal diet, low levels of drugs in his system. | ||
| One Twitter user sharing the claim, George Floyd died of fentanyl overdose, Derek Chauvin should be freed. | ||
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Okay, but this is when they're like, one Twitter user, one Facebook user. | |
| But if they're saying, like, it didn't, whatever, or can we trust the AP? Yeah, that's the thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, however, no publicly available evidence supports the claim that Floyd died from overdosing on drugs, specifically flintenil or methamphetamine, rather than the actions of the cops. | ||
| What's that, Jim? | ||
| I'd assume those are like Russian trolls, just causing chaos. | ||
| Right, but Joe, that's my point, is like, this is the world now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're not, you're not, you are not predisposed to, but there is a thing of being predisposed to skepticism. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right? | ||
| And it seems cooler than being some square-ass Right. | ||
| I take... | ||
| I'm a sheeple, and I don't... | ||
| And what I'm saying is, like, there's a value in both. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And, like, I don't know how to litigate it. | ||
| I don't know how to prescribe it to people. | ||
| But... | ||
| And I also know that people have a limited amount of time. | ||
| That's a giant factor. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they got better shit to do. | ||
| This is not their number one priority. | ||
| And so I don't know what to... | ||
| I truly don't know what... | ||
| That's the kind of thing that would cause me anxiety. | ||
| I mean, look, if you're looking for a new thing to be anxious about. | ||
| But honestly, the thing with you is, because I've known you so long, you're a decent, honest person. | ||
| I will testify in court that any chance I've seen you have to be decent and honest, you've taken it. | ||
| And there's still stuff that you think might be true because it's fucking floating around. | ||
| And you're an intelligent... | ||
| But this one I haven't looked into. | ||
| This one I've just heard. | ||
| That's why I brought it up. | ||
| I've not read about it, honestly. | ||
| I remember reading a headline saying that he had a lethal dose of fentanyl in the system and that people were arguing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it still doesn't take away from the fact that the policing was immoral. | ||
| Fucking awful. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's the thing that people have to deal with every day from the cops. | ||
| And also, being a fucking cop is a horrible job. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Everything is like... | ||
| So many things. | ||
| And it's the worst job on earth. | ||
| It's one of the worst jobs. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| It's a nightmare. | ||
| You're the professional enemy. | ||
| And everyone you pull over is probably lying to you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then they all train with, like, that everyone wants to shoot them. | ||
| They kind of have to train that way. | ||
| Like, they have to, like, just get home to your wife and kids. | ||
| Then they show videos of, like, them getting ambushed and shit, like, which isn't false. | ||
| It's like, they do get ambushed. | ||
| It's not very out, but they can't worry about that. | ||
| It's like, we have to worry about hecklers pretty much every show. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| It's all these very, very complicated things. | ||
| Very complicated. | ||
| And I don't know... | ||
| And every point of view has validity. | ||
| A lot of them do. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| And then you have the foreign actors and you have the disinformation campaigns that are state-run, that we run. | ||
| That's for sure, too. | ||
| Yeah, and we do it to other countries, but don't you fucking do it to us. | ||
| We do way worse. | ||
| We actually go in and overthrow their governments, install puppet dictators. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| We've been doing that forever. | ||
| We run bullshit democracies. | ||
| We call liberty to become a failed state. | ||
| We've done a lot of wild shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We still continue to do it right now with those 700 plus bases worldwide. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're involved in all kinds of shady things. | ||
| And then there's also the obligation. | ||
| Like if you're in the CIA or if you're- But shady shit that benefits you and me, Joe. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Not that shady. | ||
| Also, shady shit that undermines legitimate dictators. | ||
| Like how do you, what do you do? | ||
| Just let these people develop nuclear arms and take over countries? | ||
| And no, you gotta do things to stop despots. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And that's the thing of now in the age of transparency and gotcha, your government is hugely hypocritical. | ||
| It's like, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's a fucking government. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| We have to be. | ||
| It's one set of rules for us and another for everybody else. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| That's why you're all trying to sneak in here. | ||
| What gives you anxiety? | ||
| Well, this is because I come and give updates on my mental health. | ||
| How are you doing now? | ||
| I'm doing great! | ||
| This is what I want to talk to you about. | ||
| So, all the ayahuasca. | ||
| Got me off antidepressants, got me believing in God in a central creation force that's not a gender or whatever. | ||
| It's just a thing. | ||
| It's just a magnet, basically. | ||
| Say it's a woman. | ||
| Yeah, please. | ||
| Wrong podcast. | ||
| God's trance. | ||
| And then the DMT broke me. | ||
| And put me back together. | ||
| And after the DMT, the 5-MeO that I smoked, it was a year and a half of... | ||
| I thought it was eight months of chaos. | ||
| And then I did an ayahuasca ceremony a year and a half after I'd smoked the DMT. It was the first time back. | ||
| And I felt the DMT door close. | ||
| And I was like, it was open that whole fucking time? | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Okay, so DMT opened up my brain too much. | ||
| A little too much. | ||
| Open borders. | ||
| I was experiencing too much of the universe. | ||
| I believe most of being a human being is just like this. | ||
| We understand that we're a rock in space. | ||
| But it's just like my fucking house and my apartment and my car and my fucking, the things that I understand. | ||
| My family, the DMT made it so I could experience like time a lot more. | ||
| I talked about it last time where I had a hard time watching the screensaver on Apple TV. The mountain ranges and shit. | ||
| I got a sense. | ||
| I understood how old they were. | ||
| In a way you're kind of not supposed to. | ||
| You know when someone goes, hey, can you believe the Rocky Mountains are 700,000 years old? | ||
| And you go, yeah, that's crazy, but nothing happens. | ||
| I kind of understood how long a time that was. | ||
| I was like way out. | ||
| I was way out. | ||
| And then I slowly kind of came back. | ||
| It took a year and a half. | ||
| And what was the negative aspects of being way out? | ||
| It was... | ||
| I told somebody I was aiming for God and I missed my stop. | ||
| And I woke up on a moving train with no conductor and going a million miles an hour. | ||
| So it was because you were taking in too much information that you hadn't considered before so it became unmanageable? | ||
| The DMT... Well, I had the Michael Pollan experience where the DMT took me back to... | ||
| When I inhaled it, I went to before the Big Bang. | ||
| And Michael Pollan said it on here because I looked it up. | ||
| I was like, where have I heard... | ||
| And I was like, that's where I was! | ||
| And so I slowly... | ||
| The issue was, so the DMT was pretty much a DMT 25 minute, 35 minute experience of like, I was before the Big Bang and my personality kind of came back and I was kind of going like, I'm not going to do that anymore. | ||
| I'm not going to be like petty. | ||
| I'm not going to be, I'm going to be like a virtuous person. | ||
| I'm just going to be like, I'm going to remember this God connection and all that stuff. | ||
| And then a week later I had a reactivation. | ||
| A week later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know that thing of like, there's a thing which, people have DMT reactivations. | ||
| Like a flashback. | ||
| Yeah, basically the joke of like an acid flashback. | ||
| I had that for, and it's common with smoking DMT. Yeah. | ||
| And I had one. | ||
| So now I'm, it's a Sunday in New York, I'm on a coffee date with a woman, in this side of my frame, this side is fucking pure whiteness, infinite time. | ||
| It was harrowing. | ||
| So you saw it? | ||
| It wasn't like a pure split-screen, but it was like energetically kind of a split-screen. | ||
| Was it something that you thought and you felt in your mind, or was it something you were experiencing visually? | ||
| It was, yeah, I shouldn't say that it was, I couldn't see it see it, but it felt. | ||
| You felt it? | ||
| Yeah, I felt it. | ||
| And so anxiety because of it? | ||
| I would say that I was split between reality, current reality, and then this infinity, sort of energetically. | ||
| And was it giving you anxiety? | ||
| Yeah, oh, I was so disoriented. | ||
| I had the thought, like, am I in God's imagination? | ||
| Shit that's not great to think when you're just on a Sunday walking around in New York. | ||
| Yeah, especially if you're on a date. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| And you're just trying to make something happen, yeah. | ||
| And like pay attention. | ||
| My friend of mine said, she goes, you just seem really preoccupied. | ||
| It's like, yeah, I had a lot on my plate. | ||
| Did you watch that Hemingway documentary on PBS? No. | ||
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It's... | |
| I recommend it highly. | ||
| Ken Burns, Hemingway, black and white pushes. | ||
| And I'm not even a Hemingway fan. | ||
| There were some passages that are like, okay, this is amazing. | ||
| But there's a part, they showed maybe the Spanish Civil War. | ||
| He went there. | ||
| I think it's Spanish Civil War. | ||
| And there's a passage from one of his books where he got shot, I believe, and he explained it as like, My spirit came out of my body like a ribbon and then came back in. | ||
| And I was watching with my friend. | ||
| I go, hey, can we stop real quick? | ||
| Because I was like in that world. | ||
| This was the reactivation day. | ||
| And I was like, yeah, I need to not watch this because I'm in that thing where my spirit can come back. | ||
| It was like touch and go. | ||
| I think I made it through this last time. | ||
| I would have killed myself, but I knew I'd be going into more of it. | ||
| So it was like real difficult. | ||
| Like real like on the edge of my... | ||
| Sanity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say... | ||
| I don't want to say... | ||
| I don't know what pre-psychotic would be. | ||
| Like pre-diabetic. | ||
| I feel like I was like, yeah, pretty close. | ||
| Now... | ||
| Over time, I got better every day, and I got returned to norm, but I was more able to fall in love, more generous. | ||
| I'm funnier on stage. | ||
| I get 15% more and bigger laughs because I'm spiritual, and people notice it. | ||
| Like, hey, what's different about you? | ||
| On stage is better. | ||
| This Netflix thing is like my best one because it's just like I'm lighter. | ||
| I'm just lighter. | ||
| Um, so that was hard to deal with, but after the year and a half passed, I, I'm a better, it's easier to be me. | ||
| It's easier to deal with me. | ||
| Everything's improved. | ||
| Um, so then in the last year or so, every few months I do MDMA and like in a sort of not necessarily a therapeutic environment, but like in a, with a spiritual bent, um, and What's happened from the ayahuasca and the DMT is when I've done mushrooms, it's ayahuasca. | ||
| It's a God connection. | ||
| Or what I perceive as a God connection. | ||
| When I do MDMA now, it's a God connection. | ||
| And I've been able to... | ||
| I believe I've been able to change my... | ||
| I don't want to say spirit, but I think... | ||
| Synapses, whatever, however you want to categorize it. | ||
| Your operating system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Basically, it's like you are getting a new, you get an update, an OS update, and, you know, the thing with updates on computers is the computer goes to sleep. | ||
| Sometimes you're awake for these updates. | ||
| You're like, I've literally done the joke on Ayahuasca, like, is there any other system you have? | ||
| Because this is a little touch and go for me. | ||
| I appreciate it, and I always get so much from it. | ||
| In the long term, but in the short term, I did ayahuasca, I don't know, in November, and there was a point where I went up to the shaman, I go, hey, this is, I'm like a little close to God right now. | ||
| Could you just give me like a nudge? | ||
| Because it's very hard to comprehend, honestly. | ||
| It's as someone who's sort of experimented in this world, like... | ||
| It's, you know, there are moments that are hard to comprehend. | ||
| And it's a hard thing to communicate. | ||
| It's interesting because I think overall you would say the benefit is worth it, but it's a slippery road. | ||
| Yeah, well it's hard. | ||
| It's very hard to do. | ||
| And that's the thing, and we talked about this last time, about sort of the mainstreaming of all this stuff. | ||
| It's Pandora's box, man, because there's a lot of people, I'm whatever I am, an intelligent person, an accomplished person, and I felt like I was pretty psychotic for a couple days, and I would have killed myself if not. | ||
| That would have been a significant... | ||
| So you genuinely thought about killing yourself? | ||
| Well, I didn't have a plan or anything, but I was like, this is unbearable, what I'm in right now. | ||
| We're like, I'm on Earth. | ||
| Am I in God's? | ||
| Who am? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| What is any of this? | ||
| What is Steps? | ||
| Walking down steps going, why is any of this? | ||
| Why am I a person in a whatever? | ||
| Got through it. | ||
| Better. | ||
| And then the MDMA, I've been able to sort of... | ||
| I don't know if you want to do software updates or whatever, but it's just made me more... | ||
| I had one that was really great, which was... | ||
| I did MDMA and... | ||
| And I was able to... | ||
| You know, I'm kind of a grudge holder. | ||
| Irish Catholic, etc. | ||
| 1 of 10. You get it. | ||
| And I... Was able to just forgive all of my grudges. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| Like, just easily. | ||
| That's very valuable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so the next day, I was like, why was I so able to do that yesterday? | ||
| But I was holding those grudges tight the day before. | ||
| And it's because... | ||
| On the MDMA I had oxytocin, dopamine, serotonin flowing through me. | ||
| Love hormones, kindness chemicals, generosity chemicals. | ||
| I was able to do it. | ||
| Most of the time I realized I just have cortisol and adrenaline. | ||
| And cortisol and adrenaline are organized and they're judicious. | ||
| That's the currency. | ||
| It's like justice, retribution, wrong, right, organize, organize, punishment, kind of like rigid, right? | ||
| So I started thinking like I've been, what I consider a personality is just cortisol and adrenaline. | ||
| Or what I considered a personality. | ||
| So I just realized like I've had a, I have a kitchen in my head that makes cortisol sandwiches. | ||
| And I'm just like, this is what I like to eat. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| That's just what it's giving out. | ||
| So I made a conscious effort to ignore my first... | ||
| I now write, don't believe your chemicals. | ||
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Mmm. | |
| Just don't believe them. | ||
| Like, think beyond them. | ||
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Right. | |
| And focus on the sort of the softer chemicals or the more positive ones. | ||
| And I've also been doing a thing that's been, like, wildly helpful, which is I was doing a gratitude checklist. | ||
| Just every day I would write, like, things I'm grateful for. | ||
| And also not only things I'm grateful for, the facts of my life. | ||
| The facts of my life are really good. | ||
| I have three Netflix specials now. | ||
| How many people have that? | ||
| I have X amount of money. | ||
| I've done great stuff. | ||
| I have love in my life. | ||
| I have friends, family. | ||
| I'm respected, etc., etc. | ||
| So I write it down to remember that I have all these great things. | ||
| I am living my dream. | ||
| Living a lot of people's dream. | ||
| I'm also especially living my dream and but you you're my brain was just writing like sci-fi and And of like this person fucking out to get you and they didn't just Constant nonsense that was just purely based on chemical. | ||
| So what I found is The more I do... | ||
| So then Rainn Wilson, the actor, suggested... | ||
| We were talking about Islam praying five times a day, and I was like, that's kind of the right amount, if we're honest. | ||
| Right, if you want to really keep the software in tune. | ||
| Yeah, if you want to just remember, like, hey, I'm a vessel for a spirit, and da-da-da-da-da. | ||
| So he goes, why don't you write in your gratitude checklist five times a day? | ||
| I was like, fine. | ||
| So I've been doing it. | ||
| I rarely get to five. | ||
| It's at least two or three. | ||
| And every day, every couple hours, just remembering, like, what the facts of my life are. | ||
| Do you think it's also, we have all, human beings develop patterns of thinking, and these patterns get, like, deeply cut, these grooves, they're easy to fall into, and this, not trusting your chemicals, It's essentially like not allowing yourself to go down these patterns of thinking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's a saying that I've read. | ||
| It was a book called The Shallows about what social media does to us. | ||
| But it was, you are what you do repeatedly. | ||
| You are what you think repeatedly. | ||
| And we have, at least I do and did for a long time, wake up and start the record. | ||
| And just the monologue that's happening in your head. | ||
| And it's gotten me out of it. | ||
| There are days where I wake up and it doesn't start and I'm like confused. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Because I don't go instantly negative. | ||
| And I've just... | ||
| It's made me see my life differently. | ||
| I've like... | ||
| I went out of my way to view my life through the way truer lens, I believe. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like it's true. | ||
| I am objectively all the attributes that I list. | ||
| And I'm so fucking lucky. | ||
| You're so fucking lucky to get this experience. | ||
| You're so... | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| The thing I would say to people is like, spin the wheel. | ||
| Eight billion other outcomes of human beings alive right now. | ||
| What are the odds you beat this one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This just like the Joe Rogan, like literally the Joe Rogan experience. | ||
| What are the odds you beat it? | ||
| There's no fucking way. | ||
| Think about, think about your life. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| And I'm not even talking about like the popularity, all that stuff. | ||
| Like that's part of it. | ||
| But think about like having an idea, doing it in your, in your, whatever the basement or garage, wherever we used to do the podcast. | ||
| And then it just becomes this? | ||
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What? | |
| Think about, and I used to think that life, I would always tell myself, like, life's not fair. | ||
| And then I finally one day had the thought, yeah, life's not fair, Neil. | ||
| No one's life should be as good as yours. | ||
| Like, I'm so lucky. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| I'm, like, getting choked up talking about it. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| And I would argue that most people that hear it, hear this, are in the same position. | ||
| But yet there's this inclination to focus on negatives, this inclination to focus on anxiety. | ||
| I think it's evolutionary. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| I think we're trained to scan for threats. | ||
| Yep, I agree. | ||
| And I write in my journal, or my checklist, because I want to masculinize it, every threat's a gift. | ||
| Wait a minute, is a checklist more masculine than a journal? | ||
| Yeah, than a journal, yeah. | ||
| I believe it is. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Checklists, because you have to make sure everything's good and the women and children are safe. | ||
| But a diary is feminine. | ||
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Oh, fuck. | |
| Dear diary. | ||
| I'm going to punch you in the face. | ||
| Yeah, and I write almost every day, no threats, only gifts. | ||
| Everything I thought was a threat is just a gift over a longer timeline. | ||
| And you've managed to do this without falling into a cult. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think. | ||
| Not one that I know of. | ||
| I'm not paying dues anywhere. | ||
| It's just literally keeping... | ||
| It's like emotional discipline in a weird way. | ||
| It's the same way like working out every day. | ||
| Well, me being your friend and knowing you for so many years, I mean, I guess I didn't know you well when I first met you. | ||
| We only knew each other because we worked in the same place at Boston Comedy. | ||
| You were a door guy, and I was just a young comedian, and we just became friends. | ||
| I didn't know you well, but you were always nice to me. | ||
| We were always cool. | ||
| Yep, same. | ||
| But you were always, you had like this tension. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I always felt like I had to hug you. | ||
| Like even when I saw you when you were doing Chappelle, when I saw him, this is amazing. | ||
| Look at you. | ||
| Are you happy? | ||
| Let me give you a hug. | ||
| You don't get it. | ||
| No, really. | ||
| Really, I was just looking at it all wrong. | ||
| Right, but you were doing well, and I always felt like you, it was, and sometimes when you have this me against the world thing, well, it really becomes you against the world, because other people feel that too, and then they don't want to connect with you, they go, well, I'm in the world, so me against you? | ||
| They don't trust their emotions to just be relaxed around you, right? | ||
| So there's a tension and a conflict there, and it's like, you're definitely different now, and you were different the last time I talked to you, and you feel maybe even more different now. | ||
| Yeah, that's right on schedule for what I did, what happened, what unfolded, if you want to get super, super, but it's like, even that thing of like, you know, when I met you in 1991, 92, pause, right, and then flash forward to this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| This shit worked out real good. | ||
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It worked out great. | |
| It did. | ||
| But it's hard to see that when you're in the moment, especially when you're caught up in your own thoughts. | ||
| Well, yeah, and you're caught up in like, I'm late, or this, this is, coffee's too hot, or like this grievance litany of like, you're supposed, that you think you're supposed to do it. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Or it's like, even in the age of social media and constant, like, you're gloating by saying your life's great. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| There's that too. | ||
| Well, a lot of people don't have a good life. | ||
| Well, a lot of people do. | ||
| But what have you done? | ||
| What have you done to try to mitigate that shitty life? | ||
| Are you doing a checklist? | ||
| Have you actively moved towards a more positive way? | ||
| And how do you treat people around you? | ||
| But with you, I would check in on you every now and then. | ||
| We would talk about different things that you were doing. | ||
| I remember one of the first ones you were doing was the ketamine stuff. | ||
| And I was like, that is wild. | ||
| But I always felt so bad for you. | ||
| I always felt like, God, this guy is just struggling with depression and anxiety, and I don't understand it. | ||
| The chemical stuff, ketamine didn't help the first time. | ||
| I did it two months ago, and it was pretty great. | ||
| But... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is it's hard to know what's going to do what. | ||
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How much does exercise help you? | |
| I do. | ||
| I have a trainer, etc. | ||
| But, like, I don't, I can't, I don't, I have too many inputs. | ||
| I don't know what's doing what. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, I don't know what's like, oh, that's definitely, the other thing of, like, the validation of a successful comedy launch. | ||
| Yeah, well, that definitely helps. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've had a lot of friends that were depressed and their career started doing better and they kind of stopped being depressed. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| But it's not really. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| The anxiety of entertainment is, first of all, there's no clear pattern. | ||
| Like, go to school, get a degree, get your PhD, do this, do that. | ||
| There's not a clear path. | ||
| And you never know if it's going to work out. | ||
| And how many guys have we known, especially us, who knew people back in the day that were talented, that we thought were going to make it and did not? | ||
| And more talented than us. | ||
| And we're better at the time than we are. | ||
| And you go, God, how did they not make it? | ||
| Yeah, and that's the thing, even when you say, are you moving toward, are you doing anything to improve your lot in life? | ||
| It's like, a lot of people try. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it doesn't work. | ||
| It doesn't work, yeah. | ||
| And then you go, you know, why did it work for you? | ||
| Why did it work for me? | ||
| I can take some credit for effort. | ||
| I can't really take credit for talent. | ||
| Shit just came out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've fucking been funny since I was fucking five. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| I've just kind of been myself. | ||
| So I guess I cultivated and I was brave. | ||
| I made brave choices. | ||
| It's incredibly fortunate. | ||
| In a time where some comedians have deals with Spotify worth hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| Like, in a time where you can make a ton of money as a comedian. | ||
| Or, you know, it's like, I always think this about athletes, I'm sure you have too, like... | ||
| Hundred years ago, none of the guys none of the you know hundred millionaire athletes are fucking they're all just like Good farmers. | ||
| Yeah, didn't one of the best farmers in the area Yeah, a great yeah, you weren't getting an endorsement deal. | ||
| It's just like yeah, so so we're really lucky We're just lucky in so many ways, but I think Whenever I tell people that, it's like, yeah, but you're good, too. | ||
| I'm like, so what? | ||
| Yes, but I can't take credit for that. | ||
| Yeah, and it's also like everyone's formula for success is different. | ||
| No one can take your formula and just plug it into their life. | ||
| But you have different circumstances. | ||
| You have different hormones. | ||
| You have different everything. | ||
| Different life experiences. | ||
| Different goals and needs and aspirations. | ||
| Different interests, you know? | ||
| Different mentality. | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| It's like everyone has to find whatever the formula is, but there's certain things that seem to be... | ||
| They seem to exist, and gratitude is a big one. | ||
| That's such a hippie, unfortunately a co-opted word. | ||
| Yeah, you talked about it with Chris Williamson, I think, right? | ||
| You guys talked about it, and it really is like... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But real. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I think it's just a better way to look. | ||
| It's just a better way to look. | ||
| But we're sort of trained to make it like, no, you did it because you grinded and rose when no one else was there. | ||
| All your enemies were asleep and you were doing whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| It also, yes, it is true, but like I said, a lot of people do that, doesn't work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They can't, they don't, they freeze up when the mic comes, whatever. | ||
| Right, whatever it is. | ||
| Whatever it is, there are, you and I both worked hard and are fucking fortunate. | ||
| I mean, I had the thought, I... I'm so fortunate. | ||
| There's nothing I can do to compensate for this. | ||
| This level of fortune. | ||
| Meaning like there's no level of volunteer work. | ||
| I could volunteer the rest of my life. | ||
| But you know what you do do? | ||
| You live a life by example. | ||
| And then this conversation is so insanely valuable because there's going to be millions of people that hear you talk and say these things. | ||
| And those people, many of them are going to get in their mind that there's a pathway out of this. | ||
| Maybe I can't take Neil Brennan's pathway, but there's a pathway out of this. | ||
| And here's a guy that was like deep, dark. | ||
| Like I remember running into you. | ||
| In the hallway one time at the Comedy Store and you just had this look on your face like the fucking the weight of the world was on your shoulders and When I would say hi to you, whenever I'd say hi to you, I would always almost feel like, I gotta give this guy a hug. | ||
| I really felt that way. | ||
| Like, I wanna give you a hug. | ||
| Like, I'm a happy person, let me give you a hug, see if some of this shit wears off on you. | ||
| But you weren't, you know, you weren't you now. | ||
| You're a different guy now. | ||
| And just by people knowing that Even though it doesn't feel like it while it's happening, every time someone's in the middle of some shit, whatever it is, a breakup, you get fired, whatever it is, when you're in the middle of some shit, man, it doesn't feel like it's ever gonna change. | ||
| It feels like this is life from now on and it's unbearable and I'm fucked. | ||
| And when people hear a guy like you, who's not only made it out of there, but made like real measurable success, like it's quantifiable, you can see it, it's undeniable, they go, well, maybe I can do it too. | ||
| Yeah, I hope so. | ||
| They can. | ||
| It's not easy. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| But what the fuck is easy? | ||
| You tell me something that's worth doing that's easy. | ||
| What the fuck is easy? | ||
| I don't even like that word. | ||
| I hate that word. | ||
| It's just a dumb word, easy. | ||
| Easy's not in the menu. | ||
| It's not, but valuable, worthwhile. | ||
| I think that, yeah, exactly. | ||
| But that's the thing that happens, is like, because it's not... | ||
| I was gonna say, like, the easy pass, like, literally on the freeway. | ||
| Like, that's easy. | ||
| But even that, you gotta fucking slow down. | ||
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Right, even that, you might get a fucking tire iron someone left on the road. | |
| Yeah, like, it's not... | ||
| But it's... | ||
| It is, like you said, it's worthwhile. | ||
| If it's difficult, everything's difficult. | ||
| And that's the thing that we can fall into this thing of like, you had to take a fucking shower and shave and find a shirt. | ||
| It's not effortless, but that's part of life. | ||
| And you can't get hung up on the upkeep part of it. | ||
| Well, my strategy for that is to self-administer things that are far more difficult than anything that I might experience in my day. | ||
| And that's what I do with workouts. | ||
| Like, workouts for me, it's not just a physical thing, it's a mental thing, as much as, if not more, than it's a physical thing. | ||
| Because I don't want to do it. | ||
| I still don't want to do it. | ||
| Like, sometimes I want to do it, but most times I don't. | ||
| But I still do it. | ||
| Do you consciously think, like, I don't want to do this chore for my wife or whatever, and then go, but you just sat in a fucking freezing cold water for 20 minutes so you can do it, buddy? | ||
| Or is it just embodied? | ||
| I've done so many difficult things that I'm just comfortable doing difficult things. | ||
| And I know those whispers, don't do it, take the day off, take a nap, do this, do that. | ||
| I know how to avoid those. | ||
| But I know how to avoid those just because that's the path that I've carved in my head. | ||
| So my pattern of behavior is always gravitate towards difficult things. | ||
| And just do it. | ||
| You don't want to ignore those thoughts. | ||
| And if I can make them so difficult that regular life is easy, like if you can fucking do a cold plunge, do 10 rounds in the bag, and then do 20 minutes and 195 degrees in a sauna, like the rest of the day is going to be easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's gonna be. | ||
| Those rounds seven, eight, nine, and ten are so fucking hard. | ||
| You're drenched with sweat. | ||
| You look over the timer, five more seconds to rest before the bell goes off. | ||
| If you could just get through that, man, regular life is easier because it's not that hard. | ||
| You couldn't sustain it. | ||
| If regular life for me was like round seven or round eight forever, I wouldn't want to do that. | ||
| I think for a lot of people, you know, they got to take the bus to work. | ||
| That is round seven. | ||
| Like, there are just people that have a higher level of difficulty. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Existence. | ||
| And I've had those higher levels of difficulty in my life. | ||
| And that's one thing I'm very fortunate for. | ||
| Growing up poor, I think, is very valuable. | ||
| And it's something I can't give my kids. | ||
| And I think about that. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Because they don't understand the fear of not having food. | ||
| They don't understand, like, your parents are on welfare and you know that you're eating from food stamps. | ||
| It's like that fear, that drive, like, there's no one coming to save you. | ||
| You better go get things done. | ||
| And you have to do it for yourself. | ||
| I still believe that there's a camp that you could start. | ||
| Poverty camp for rich kids. | ||
| For rich kids? | ||
| You'd be faking it, though. | ||
| They always know that you're going to be there to rescue them. | ||
| That's part of the problem. | ||
| And one of the things that I think can mitigate that is, like, them choosing difficult paths, difficult things to do. | ||
| But it'll definitely not be as difficult as a poor person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, like, you got out of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And now you're doing pretty good. | ||
| So it's, like, I just think it's important that... | ||
| It's important for me to remember. | ||
| I can't prescribe, like, gratitude will do it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But that's a thing that really helped me. | ||
| And plus, ketamine, transcranial magnetic stimulation, Zoloft, DMT, ayahuasca, mushrooms, MDMA. You've tried a lot of things. | ||
| I've tried a lot of stuff. | ||
| And I'm even fortunate to have added access to a lot of this stuff. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And acknowledging that, but this thing of... | ||
| Hard work isn't always adequate. | ||
| No, it's not enough, but it's something. | ||
| Yeah, it's all you can control. | ||
| That's what I write. | ||
| It's like, I'll never be grateful enough for this, but I can work hard and I can be focused on the stuff that is what's important to me. | ||
| And hopefully it ends up being valuable to people. | ||
| But like I can't, I just, I don't, people would always go like, you're doing so well and I'd be like, you don't fucking understand, stupid. | ||
| This stupid sketch show is never going anywhere. | ||
| And then all these things, you look back and you're like, I should have been so happy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or I could have been so happy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's an opportunity. | ||
| I think you talking about this is very valuable. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I really do. | ||
| I'm glad you're happy. | ||
| And it's also the thing of, like, I was going in the... | ||
| I know you were doing a nice wrap-up, and you'll have to restart it. | ||
| The thing of, like, some days I... We all feel stuck in our existence. | ||
| And again, it's so corny, but sometimes I write in my journal, I get to be Neil Brennan. | ||
| Not I have to be. | ||
| I get to be Neil Brennan. | ||
| You get to be a father. | ||
| You get to be a whatever. | ||
| All the things that are like great. | ||
| It's not a threat. | ||
| It's a gift. | ||
| Elon posted something today about, or it was yesterday, that anxiety is essentially conspiracy theories that you make against yourself. | ||
| I literally had that same... | ||
| I thought about it with you and Dave, where it's like I only have conspiracy theories about why people don't like me. | ||
| Well, I like you. | ||
| Thank you, buddy. | ||
| I like you, too. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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All right. | |
| Let's wrap this up. | ||
| Thank you for being here. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| And I really do think what you're saying is very valuable to people. | ||
| And I haven't seen your special yet, but I'm sure it's awesome. | ||
| You're hilarious. | ||
| Crazy good, Neil Brennan. | ||
| When are you flying out? | ||
| It was number four. | ||
| When are you flying back? | ||
| Tonight. | ||
| Tonight? | ||
| Yeah, I was going to come to the club. | ||
| Damn, I want you to come. | ||
| Alright, another time. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
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Appreciate you. |
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