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Feb. 22, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2106 - Kid Rock
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joe rogan
01:37:07
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kid rock
01:42:34
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joe rogan
I love that chain.
What is that chain?
kid rock
It's my tattoo.
It's my logo.
American badass.
joe rogan
That's pretty badass.
kid rock
That sounds like stoner talk.
joe rogan
It is.
It is stoner talk.
Most of my conversations are stoner talk.
Like, high level.
kid rock
Dude, he used to be Tom Petty's weed dealer.
In a sense.
Like, he would come to town.
He married a girl from Saginaw, Michigan.
I forget her name.
Great, great girl.
And they would come to Outside Detroit where I lived and I'd get this call like, hey, can you get Tom some weed?
unidentified
I'd be like, fuck, I'll take him some weed.
kid rock
So I'd call some of my brother's friends and get some weed.
I'd be like, this is fucking awesome because I love Tom Petty.
I didn't really know him.
So I'd go up there and drop the weed off and I'd be in his dressing room and he'd be like, so what's up man?
unidentified
I'd be like, nothing.
kid rock
And I'm like, we have nothing in common.
This guy's so fucking high.
I might have been tuned up on a couple beers or something.
And I'm like, well, that sucked.
I guess I'll just enjoy the music.
joe rogan
Was this before or after you were doing music?
kid rock
Oh, this is when I was a big star.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
No shit.
kid rock
Yeah, I was all excited.
joe rogan
And you're hanging with Tom Petty?
kid rock
Not really.
I was just taking weed, trying to hang out with him.
joe rogan
You know, that's how Tom Petty died.
Somebody got him some pills.
kid rock
Oh, was it fentanyl?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck, fuck, fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, he...
I don't remember what his injury was, but he was hurting, and a roadie got him some fentanyl.
kid rock
Terrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how Prince died too.
kid rock
Yeah, I've heard that in the elevator.
joe rogan
Same thing, pain.
kid rock
We all know people.
It's a travesty.
joe rogan
It's a horrible thing.
kid rock
Well, let's just go right at the border.
joe rogan
Well, it's the border, but it's also the opioid crisis that was created by the Sackler family.
I mean, those motherfuckers just got a giant percentage of the population hooked on heroin.
Some evil shit, man.
Those fucking people are still running around, too.
kid rock
In case you were ever thinking about quitting drugs...
Fentanyl should seal the deal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
That should seal the deal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
I know a lot of people that has.
They were like, you know, I was still an experimental cocaine user, this, that, and the other.
They were like, when that shit came up, that was it.
I had some friends tell me they were going to buy a testing kit, this, that, and the other.
I was like, yeah, that's probably time to move on.
joe rogan
If you're buying a testing kit to make sure you don't die, you probably should reconsider your options.
kid rock
Might want to revisit whiskey.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Weed's not bad.
Weed and whiskey, it's a good combination.
You don't really, you don't want to go down that road.
Although, I've heard it's awesome.
Not fentanyl, but cocaine.
I have not tried it, I've never done it, but everyone I know who does it tells you not to do it because it's awesome.
kid rock
I had a good run.
I haven't too many problems.
You know, in the older days, you know, it's kind of just following the handbook of rock and roll.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
It's like your chapter 14 gets them blow.
Blah, blah, blah.
We had fun.
Nobody...
I've seen people get all fucked up and lose their minds on it, but I know quite a few people in my position like, okay, we had some fun when we were younger and, you know, at some point, you know, kind of a weekend warrior type thing.
Don't let it interfere with business and engagements and things you have to do.
I can't say I was batting a thousand, but...
Pretty good average.
joe rogan
You did pretty good.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Considering it?
It all worked out pretty well.
kid rock
I'm not advocating for it at any level.
joe rogan
I don't think anybody is.
kid rock
That's my honest experience.
Like, hey, you know, I came out okay.
joe rogan
That's the thing.
There's people that will tell you they're weed advocates.
There's no, like, coke advocates.
There's no people like, coke fixed my life.
I never got anything done.
All of a sudden, I was doing coke and starting businesses.
kid rock
Is weed fixing lives?
joe rogan
We can fix people.
Depends on who you are.
kid rock
I don't know if you're sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, for a guy like me, weed's a good drug.
A guy like me, weed just like chills you down.
kid rock
My brother's a huge weed smoker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
And he'll always be like, you know, for golfing or some shit.
And I'm drinking my beers, having my fun.
I'm always like, you know, you drive.
And I'm always like, maybe you fucking shouldn't be driving.
He's just fucking stoned out of his mind sometimes.
And I'm like, yeah, I don't like this.
I'm a little nervous.
And I'm tuned up already.
joe rogan
Yeah, for some people, weed makes you nicer, calms you down, makes you a little more sensitive, a little more compassionate.
kid rock
Yeah, everything affects people differently.
I've drank tequila three times.
Only three?
I've been to jail three times.
unidentified
Do the math.
kid rock
Kid Rock, no drink tequila.
joe rogan
So what do you think tequila does to you differently?
kid rock
Ah, it just makes me want to punch you right in the mouth.
Really?
Oh, fuck.
That's it.
joe rogan
The Mexican influence.
kid rock
Hey, Kid Rock, nice to see you.
unidentified
Like, bam!
kid rock
What the fuck's the matter with him?
joe rogan
What tequila?
kid rock
I have no idea.
joe rogan
What does it do?
It just makes you hyper?
kid rock
It just makes me fucking hyper-violent.
It could have been a combination of maybe those few times I drank it, I was just in a headspace where, you know, you can be in different headspaces when you're doing different things.
joe rogan
And you can blame it on the tequila.
kid rock
But I kind of have a rule that I really try not to, like, you know...
I've really mellowed out in the last 10 years or so, but I really try not to get tuned up unless I'm in a good spot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
In a good mood for good people.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
They don't want to be like, you know, all worked up, you know, after watch Fox News for six hours.
Ready to fucking, you know, slay the beast and start pounding whiskey and go to the club.
joe rogan
If you watch Fox News for too long, you will think it's the end of the world.
kid rock
Oh, I do.
And it is.
joe rogan
It might be.
It really might be.
Did you see the fucking Tim Dillon thing that I posted yesterday?
It's legit.
kid rock
Is that the gay comedian?
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
He's fucking great.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
But he had a picture with a girl.
He said, I'm getting married.
The homosexuality thing was just a phase.
And RFK Jr. writes to him, she's a beautiful lady.
I can see how she un-gayed you, Tim.
The guy's running for president.
kid rock
Fucking great.
joe rogan
Amazing.
kid rock
It's awesome.
joe rogan
In that sense, it's an amazing time.
kid rock
He don't scare me.
joe rogan
No, he shouldn't scare you.
kid rock
He doesn't scare me.
joe rogan
He should do the opposite of scare you.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
It should scare you the opposition to him.
Because if people listen to what he says, and you pay attention to what he says, and you actually research what he says, he's telling the truth.
It's just, we've been fucked over and lied to for so long that he seems like a crazy person.
Look at that.
She's a beautiful angel to him.
unidentified
He's going to see how she un-gayed you.
joe rogan
Ungay.
kid rock
Fuck, I learned something.
I haven't been here five minutes.
My new favorite word.
Usually I'm just using gay inappropriately all the time.
You know, like, that's fucking gay.
You know, someone's like, oh, you're so insensitive.
I'm like, that's so un-gay.
joe rogan
Yeah, it used to be a thing that we would say.
Something's gay.
Or it used to be, imagine like from the time of the Flintstones.
The Flintstones was we had a gay old time.
kid rock
Do you remember playing Smear the Queer when you were a kid?
joe rogan
I never played that.
What is it?
kid rock
You give somebody the football and everyone tries to tackle them.
Like in grade school, you just ran around.
We didn't even know what queer meant.
The name of the game was Smear the Queer.
joe rogan
I never played that.
Did you play that, Jamie?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
kid rock
You from the Midwest?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's from Ohio.
kid rock
There you go.
joe rogan
They didn't have that where I grew up.
kid rock
Where'd you grow up?
joe rogan
Boston.
I mean, I'm sure they had it.
kid rock
Fuck, I would think it was invented in Boston.
joe rogan
I lived a fucked up life.
Not fucked up, but just my high school years was all martial arts.
It was all from the time I was like 15 till I was 21. All I did is train and compete.
kid rock
That's a lot of discipline.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of obsession.
A lot of discipline and obsession, but it was very weird socially.
So I went from that to being a stand-up comedian, which is like the complete opposite ends of the spectrum.
Hanging out with maniacs who are doing drugs and staying up all night.
Just complete polar opposite.
So I missed a lot of stuff.
kid rock
You got a lot of money now you can make up for it.
Fast-track it.
Where I get it all done in like two years with the loot you've made.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
I found that to be a problem at times for people.
joe rogan
Money?
kid rock
No, they didn't experience, you know, a certain coming of age things, whether it's, you know, crazy chasing girls, you know, that whole thing, doing drugs, you know, just being kind of wild, you know, stealing people's statues out of the yard, whatever crazy shit like that you do when you're young.
And then they reach this point.
A lot of it were the athletes because they were so focused in their training at such a young age.
And then they get to that point where they get money and they're like, I want to taste it all.
joe rogan
That's true.
kid rock
And then they kind of get fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can lose your bearings.
That's true.
That is the case with a lot of athletes.
A lot of athletes get fat, too.
They just fuck it.
It's over.
A lot of fighters.
Because a lot of fighters are always dieting.
kid rock
Well, you get that big muscle and then it's so hard to...
Fucking maintain as you get older.
joe rogan
Yep, that too.
kid rock
You start to lose your lean muscle, you know about all that stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
All of a sudden, two to ten beers a night doesn't seem like a bad idea.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's also like, I think with athletes, especially with fighters, the rush of competition is so extreme that the regular world just seems so dull.
And then going back to the regular world, you don't feel like you have a real purpose anymore.
You're not training for this big event that takes place every few months.
kid rock
And coming back from the military.
joe rogan
Yeah, like a lighter version of that.
That's a big problem with guys, coming back from the military.
unidentified
Big problem.
Huge.
kid rock
Suicide.
joe rogan
And no coaching at all.
Nobody tells you what to do.
They just let you back in the world, and you're like, fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
Seen it too many times.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Too many times.
Too many times.
So, what's it like being the dude who took out Bud Light?
kid rock
Let's get right to it.
Let's get right to it.
joe rogan
We were going to bring a few cases in here for you.
unidentified
Switch sunglasses.
kid rock
Fuck, I'll drink it.
I don't give a shit.
Two kinds of beer in this world, cold and free.
I like them both.
Man, I was just having fun, to be honest with you.
I mean, I was pissed.
Like, you know, but...
It wasn't like it was going to wreck my day, let alone my life.
I was just kind of like, what the fuck are they doing?
joe rogan
You were the straw that broke the camel's back.
kid rock
I became the face of it, yes.
I'm not the Pied Piper to sit around and think like people follow what Kid Rock does.
I just became the face of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they kind of do.
They kind of do.
Listen, man, when you got so upset that you were fucking machine gunning...
kid rock
Throwing a tantrum with a machine gun.
joe rogan
You machine gun cases.
unidentified
They want to let guys play girls sports.
joe rogan
That was the end.
That was really it.
If there's one moment that they look back on and fucking go, shit!
kid rock
I've talked to him about it.
joe rogan
I know you have.
kid rock
You were there at the UFC fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I met that dude, the CEO. He's a good guy, man.
kid rock
We've become friends.
joe rogan
He's a good guy.
kid rock
He's a great guy.
After five minutes of talking to him, I'm with Trump there in Dana's green room.
I go to Trump, I go, see that dude behind me?
I go, that's the CEO of Bud Light or Anheuser-Busch.
And Trump's like, you want to go talk to him?
Which in my mind, Trump said, you want to go fuck with him?
And I'm like, yes, absolutely.
So we go over there, we're talking to him.
We actually had a great conversation.
And at some point he was telling me how he got the video.
And he was actually down in Texas doing some hunting.
And I'm like...
We talk and talk, and I'm not going to share all our conversation.
That'd probably be inappropriate, but I'm like, dude, you seem like somebody I'd fucking be friends with that I'd hang out with.
He's like, you would.
That's what I'm saying.
And I'm like, well, come to Nashville.
Come visit me.
He fucking did.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
kid rock
Came with his top team.
Fucking we broke bread.
Got fucked up on Bud Light.
Fucking bold.
Like, did all this fun shit.
And we had a good meeting beforehand trying to think if there's something I could do with Anheuser-Busch.
And I just didn't feel comfortable with it.
You know, I threw out some ideas that scared the living fuck out of them.
And at the end of the day, I was like, guys, I don't feel right taking your money.
I was like...
I go, we can continue the conversation, see where it ends up.
But honestly, I don't want any corporate deals.
I don't feel right.
There's not a penny on earth that could make me change who I am or have people look at me in a different way.
Even though it's probably half the country at this point that likes me and other half wants to put a bullet in me.
I understand that.
There's no like, ah, he's okay.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
I've destroyed that.
There's no, Kid Rock's okay.
It's either I fucking hate that kid.
joe rogan
Or I love that dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
I'll take a bullet for him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
But, you know, we still talk.
joe rogan
That's a better place to be, honestly.
kid rock
And like I said, you know what I mean?
They fucked up.
And when you get to the grassroots of it, that's what they did.
And there's so many people that work for that company.
And you know all the stuff they've done.
We don't have to be a broken record here.
joe rogan
It's a great company.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They've done amazing things.
Anheuser-Busch is an amazing charitable company that they do a lot of great things.
kid rock
Yeah, and I dug into that, and I was educated on it.
Even before Dana called me about his deal and things like that, you know, people discussed with me.
You know, I did a little digging and talked to people.
And I'm like, at the end of the day, I'm like, all right, they got the message.
Like, I'm not someone who holds a fucking grudge his whole life.
You know what I mean?
And honest to God, I was having a lot of fucking fun.
I don't get to pull my machine gun out and film myself doing cool shit too often.
I'm just not that type of person.
unidentified
I was like, this warrants it right here.
kid rock
Yeah.
Get all the Bud Light on property.
That was actually all the beer I had on property.
I kept a lot of that shit around.
More than I thought.
joe rogan
We stopped selling it at the mothership because nobody's buying it.
It got that bad.
kid rock
What's going on there?
joe rogan
It's nuts.
It's stupid.
I think it's stupid and Shane Gillis brought it back a lot.
kid rock
I love Shane.
Shane's a buddy.
joe rogan
He's the best.
He brought it back a lot because he never stopped drinking it.
It's slowly making its way back and I think the UFC helps a lot too.
But they took a big hit.
kid rock
One of the things I told them was, I was like, I go from the outside looking in, guys, as a friend, you know, somebody who doesn't want to see this brand hurt and destroyed anymore.
Like, you got smacked on the ass.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You know, and a pretty hard spanking.
I was like, but I don't want to hold your head underwater and drown this fucking company, put people out of work and that shit.
It's like, you got the message and it's clear.
I wish people knew these guys running the company because they're great fucking guys.
But I said, you know, just a percentage of these fucking trolls on the left and on the right, they're like, I'm so empowered by the internet.
unidentified
I'm going to piss and bitch and moan and, you know, I have a voice.
kid rock
It's like, go fuck yourself.
All right, cut it out.
Like...
If anyone's still spending time on this, you clearly are fucking bored.
Find something better to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's definitely a pursuit of losers.
But the problem is those losers can actually affect businesses.
And that's what they know.
They know now that it's possible, both on the right and on the left.
kid rock
But they need to know there's so many more businesses in this country deserving of that treatment.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
Fucking Ben& Jerry's, Starbucks, Target.
The list goes on and on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
And I don't care if they're left-wing or right-wing.
It's just their fucking ideology.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Like, you know, when they cross that line and signal to people like myself and many others that they were okay with this transgender thing and more so at, like, is this going to get directed at my kids?
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
And you think fucking men should be in women's sports?
Like, nah, nah, nah.
That's where I'm drawing the fucking line.
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
That's the most amazing one that they're supporting.
And the fact that...
Was it the Olympic Boxing Committee?
What was it that just allowed transgender women...
What do you mean?
kid rock
They're allowing...
I always get confused here.
joe rogan
Biological females to fight men?
kid rock
They're allowing chicks that sew on dicks to fight dudes, which I'd tune in for that.
joe rogan
Is that real?
kid rock
I think so.
joe rogan
I thought it was biological men who identify as females who are going to be allowed to box.
kid rock
Might be.
I thought it was the other way too, but I don't know.
joe rogan
Jamie will find out.
Yeah.
The other one's easy, sure.
You think, go ahead, do it, go for it.
But at the end of the day, you're going to have to take steroids, and it's supposed to be illegal to take steroids.
Like, if you are taking synthetic testosterone, you're taking steroids.
So if you're doing that, and you're becoming a man through that...
Who's to say that the men can't do it, too?
kid rock
Do we even have to think that deep about it?
You can't just look at it and go like, no, that's fucking wrong.
Cut it out.
joe rogan
Well, it should 100% be wrong for biological males to compete against biological females.
That's just...
kid rock
Period.
joe rogan
Period.
And any bullshit that you say, like trans women or women, well, guess what?
They're not.
They're not biologically.
They're not.
They can identify as a woman.
You want to call yourself Sally.
I'll call you Sally.
I'm a nice guy.
Policy states that minors under the 18 must compete in their birth gender.
In the weight class outlined in the rulebook, transgender women over 18 can only compete in the female category if they undergo genital reassignment surgery and submit to quarterly hormone tests for at least four years following surgery.
The guidelines which define normal range of testosterone...
See, but this is just still not good enough.
The people don't understand all the different variables.
kid rock
I didn't understand any of that.
joe rogan
I went into it deeply, unfortunately.
Transgender men over 18 have to meet similar requirements.
They must undergo genital reassignment surgery.
Transgender men?
Genital reassignment surgery.
So you have to get a fake dick?
You have to, in order to box.
Submit quarterly.
That sounds insane.
kid rock
Are there donor dicks?
joe rogan
They should be, right?
Do you know they can't donate testosterone?
unidentified
Are there donor dicks?
joe rogan
They definitely do.
For guys who get their dicks blown off, they get them new dicks.
kid rock
Are they switching?
Like, hey, I want to be a man, I want to be a woman?
joe rogan
I haven't heard of that yet, but I'm sure that's coming.
But what they do not do is they don't give you the balls.
Because if someone switches your balls, like say if you donate your balls, you die in a car accident, you donate your balls to science or whatever, and someone takes your balls and sews them on, that'll be your kids.
Your genes will come out of those balls.
So it won't be like a new person.
kid rock
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I mean, it won't be like this person's genes carrying on, it'll be your genes carrying on through your balls that are attached to this guy.
So that's not ethical.
kid rock
Why is this always like come up in conversation?
Is it the media?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Because I don't remember the last time like I seen it.
And by the way, if you're transgender and you're really fucking good at it, no one knows.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
It's usually not the case.
Although only time I've been around transgender people is like some crazy club like in Miami or New York back in the day.
I gotta say, fun.
joe rogan
It was rare.
kid rock
But I mean, you used to have those clubs where they weren't.
It'd be a fucking blast.
No big deal.
Like, this America.
Freedom.
If you want to fucking be that...
Go ahead.
Like, I'll exist with you in society.
You're probably not getting the dinner invite.
But, you know, if you're out and about, like, we can both shop in Walmart.
I'm not going to freak out.
If you're not fucking with me, I'm not fucking with you.
No matter who you are.
joe rogan
And that's how it should be.
kid rock
Yeah, it's pretty simple.
joe rogan
That's how it should be.
kid rock
Common sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should be able to do whatever you want.
But when you want to compete as a woman or you want to start, you know, if you're a 50-year-old man, you want to compete against young girls, which is what's going on in Canada.
There's a guy who's 50 who identifies as a teenage girl.
They let him compete and...
Swim meets with girls and change in the locker room with them.
Now you're insane.
Now you're taking it too far.
And that's the problem.
No one's ever happy with us moving the goalposts a little bit.
They want to move them, reestablish, move them further.
Move them further.
Move them further.
kid rock
I had a thought about that.
So I'm thinking like it's Black History Month, right?
I can get down with that.
That makes sense.
I think November is like Native American month.
I can get down with that.
That makes sense.
The thing I'm struggling with is Pride Month and Veterans Day.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
See the fucking balance there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
I'm like, should we flip that?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good point.
That's a real good point.
Yeah.
It's a weird time, man.
It's a weird time because there's like so many fucking weird people that are involved in promoting these things and pushing them and changing what's normal and what's not normal to regular people.
kid rock
It's just fucking weirdos and all those fucking mentally ill fucking nutcases.
That's honestly why I carry a gun everywhere.
Where I'm legal to or I have somebody with me.
It used to be like, okay, if I'm going somewhere where I thought, you know, that would, you know, make sense to do.
You know, I've always had a concealed weapons permit everywhere and whatnot.
I'm just a gun enthusiast.
But in the last, I don't know how many years, five, so many years, it's like, carry a fucking gun everywhere.
Just because of that.
Like, just fucking people that are unstable.
You never know when one of these motherfuckers is going to lose it and you're just sitting there defenseless.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a strange time, man.
In so many ways.
People are just...
kid rock
I gotta imagine they were saying the same shit in the 60s and 70s.
They were.
joe rogan
But the 60s and 70s were fucked, too.
We just forgot.
Because the 80s were so easy.
The 80s and the 90s, everyone was kind of coasting.
kid rock
Everyone was on blow.
joe rogan
There was a little bit of that.
But it's also, you know, the Cold War ended.
This collapse of the Soviet Union.
We weren't worried.
There wasn't like this existential threat hanging over our heads.
kid rock
Well, now it's back.
joe rogan
Now it's back.
Yeah.
Fun times.
kid rock
We've done a 360. Fun times.
joe rogan
Real fun.
Chinese people are entering over the border.
kid rock
Unbelievable.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
I had no thought on that.
I think I saw it on a t-shirt.
I don't take credit for everything I say because most likely I'm just repeating something I saw somewhere.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
But it's like, you know, they want to do away with gas stoves, make them electric, electric cars.
Why don't we start with that wall?
I can make that fucker electric, put up some solar panels.
Yeah.
China built one how many thousands of years ago?
Make it a tourist attraction.
Charge people.
Go fucking hang out in the wall.
Put some fucking Louis Vuitton stores on it or some shit.
joe rogan
Well, it's a real weird thing, like, what they're doing.
There's so many different people that have opinions about why they're leaving it open and why they're allowing people to come in and, you know, setting them up.
Dr. Phil was on here yesterday and he was talking about it.
kid rock
I like Dr. Phil.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
He's starting his own network.
kid rock
I played his show years ago.
joe rogan
Did you?
kid rock
It was, like, so many anniversary show.
It turned out it was one of his favorite acts and I fucking played a banjo on there.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
He's a good dude.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
I know him through...
I'm friends with his son.
His son's a good friend of mine.
kid rock
All right.
joe rogan
But he's starting to network.
Like, he's just so fed up with the news and the way things are portrayed and these biased ways, and he wants to have objective news, and so he created his own network.
kid rock
The HR department?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a fucking very bizarre time.
And I'm sure it's going to get more bizarre.
We're going to look back on these days one day like, oh, remember the good old days where all you're complaining about was transgender women competing in sports?
kid rock
Kid only wanted to be a cat, took a litter box to school.
Fuck the good old days.
joe rogan
Yeah, people don't get better.
Society doesn't get better.
Unless something happens.
Unless they figure out some sort of mind reading.
kid rock
Well, unfortunately, usually that turns out to be tragedy.
Right.
Something really fucked up happens.
You know, like what happened in Israel or worse.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
You know, that tends to bring nations and people together on different levels.
joe rogan
Like 9-11.
Remember 9-11?
kid rock
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
When 9-11 happened, I tell everybody, like, even in Los Angeles, which is probably the most unpatriotic place on earth, everybody had an American flag on their car.
People were letting people in lanes.
They were waving to people.
They were friendly.
They felt united.
It was interesting.
kid rock
I remember.
joe rogan
Didn't last long.
A few months.
kid rock
Everybody, half the country didn't hate George W. Bush for almost 48 hours.
joe rogan
They didn't hate him at all when he gave that one great speech.
kid rock
No, I mean, it was a couple weeks or a couple months, whatever it was, but then things kind of went back to normal.
joe rogan
There was a lot of liberals that liked him after that.
They were like, that's what you want when you're in times of war.
You want a strong leader.
kid rock
It's too bad we can't get to that without, you know, having something terrible happen.
If we could just have a little more civil discourse in this country.
You can go tell me to go fuck myself.
You hate Trump and my politics.
I'm going to fuck you, but...
I'll still sit down and have a beer with you.
We don't have to have this fucking goddamn go over your throat.
And I'm part of the problem.
I've been polarizing.
No question.
My last album, that's what it was all about.
Or a good portion of it.
And I understand that.
But I even said that album, I was like, I'm going to get this out of my system and hopefully we can go back to having some civil discourse in this country.
That was actually one of my suggestions to Bud Light.
I was like, what if you could use this to not only make fun...
My thing was like, you guys need to poke fun at this.
Like, people aren't angry because you didn't apologize.
I'm like, I don't necessarily agree with apologizing over everything in this day and age.
Everything's become a fucking big, I'm sorry.
Fuck that.
Like, what you should do is, like, make fun of the situation.
Have something that shows light of the situation, but do it in that fun, fucking Anheuser-Busch, old-school, funny fucking way.
We're like, we get it.
We fucked up.
Like, you know, while we don't...
I told Brennan, I was like...
Whoever coached you on that CBS morning show, I was like, you were coached, right?
He was like, I was.
I was like, fucking Gayle King set it up.
She goes, would you send that can back to that influencer?
And he goes into this, well, Anheuser-Busch has been supporting, you know, the LGBT, ABCD. I'm like, what the fuck, man?
All you had to do was say, like, look, no, we would not.
While we want everyone to enjoy our beer...
We understand that we shouldn't be sticking our noses into polarizing conversations, and we understand who our market is.
And at the end of the day, we're in business to sell beer, keep people employed, and for shock, the shareholders back, you know, return.
Fucking end of it.
You didn't have to throw trans people under the bus or any of that shit.
You just fucking...
How's that fuck?
joe rogan
That's actually good advice.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's pretty solid in rice.
kid rock
Ladies and gentlemen, introducing the head of marketing for Bud Light, Kid Rock.
joe rogan
That would be their ultimate move.
kid rock
It'd be funny as shit.
I actually told them we should do a skit like the Kenny Powers K-Swiss.
joe rogan
100%.
kid rock
But it's like, you know, I walk in as VP and start fucking with people.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would work.
But they need to get back to, you know, remember they used to have those real men of genius ads?
It was fun.
kid rock
It was.
joe rogan
Bud Light was fun.
I did a tour with those guys.
The real men of comedy.
kid rock
I can't believe looking through all my old pictures, how many pictures I found with like...
Fucking Bud Light in my hand, like, fishing, doing something, or like playing Sturgis with a big Bud Light, you know, next to the stage.
Like, you know, I've done so much cool, good shit.
joe rogan
Well, that's why when a guy like you shoots the cans, everybody goes, oh, that's it.
It's over.
It's over.
kid rock
And trust me, I don't have one of these teams of people.
It's like, it's me, like, you know, maybe Corey, who's here with me, I'm like, ah, let's have some fun.
Go get all the fucking, tell farm guys to get all the fucking Bud Light shit together and grab my fucking MP5. Yeah, I didn't think you ran that by a marketing department.
No.
There's not much that goes through one over here.
joe rogan
A marketing department for a guy like you would just fuck things up.
What kind of advice could they possibly give you?
They'd have to be maniacs too.
And then they would never be in marketing.
kid rock
I've had more people, managers and stuff through the years, tell me, which I took as a compliment, they told me, like, just everything you've done to get where you're at, I would have told you no.
I think that's honest.
Because I get, you know, done some, I guess you could call it crazy polarizing, whatever type of shit.
It's really, I just, I speak my mind.
I haven't changed one bit.
I came out fucking like this with middle fingers on the CDs.
And I haven't changed, but holy shit, the times have.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's obvious, though, that it's all you.
That's what people like.
In this day and age where everything is sort of planned ahead and it's bullshit and scripted.
kid rock
You've seen behind the curtain.
Sure.
These pop stars and people at big levels and their teams and everything's fucking...
joe rogan
They're trapped.
kid rock
It's like a politician, you know, like buying that won't...
Can't say anything off the teleprompter.
joe rogan
Well, of course he can't.
But it's also, you've got a whole team of people behind you.
You've got a bunch of people that want to keep their jobs and they want to play it safe.
They want to play it safe and they want to figure out which way is the wind blowing.
This is what we're going to do.
And you see it in celebrities and people turn on them now because it's like so disingenuous and they realize what you're doing.
kid rock
You can see right through it.
joe rogan
You're going to lose a giant percentage of your people that are knowing that a marketing team is behind everything you say.
kid rock
Right.
joe rogan
So when a guy like you, it's obvious that that was your idea.
Like, who the fuck is gonna say?
kid rock
It wasn't even an idea.
joe rogan
Whatever it was, a thought that popped into your head that you acted on.
kid rock
That's pretty much what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's obvious.
kid rock
That's what they all are.
joe rogan
That's what people like.
That's what people like.
They're like real people.
kid rock
And sometimes you don't always turn a 10. You're like, oh yeah, maybe I should have thought that one through a little bit more.
joe rogan
Most of the things I say.
When you think about it, I've done so many podcasts, Hammered, and then after we're all listening or thinking about what we said, like, what did we say?
kid rock
Oh boy, story of my fucking life.
joe rogan
Yeah, but people like that.
They like real humans.
They don't want some fucking pre-programmed bullshit shoved down their throat just to make a little bit more money.
kid rock
That's incredible.
That kind of seems like a big chunk of the country wants that.
They want to go back to this normal, fucked up D.C., All the bullshit that's been going on there, I would dare say for our lifetimes, it's just become a lot more out in the open for several reasons.
You know, social media and the sharing of media worldwide and fucking Trump pulling everyone's fucking pants down there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Showing them, look, everyone has a small penis in this fucking town.
See, I just showed it to you.
They act like they have the biggest dicks on earth.
joe rogan
One thing no one can deny is that he exposed the media.
Exposed the media for being essentially a propaganda agent.
It's not just the news.
And to pretend it's the news, they never covered anything that he did that was positive.
Anything had some negative spin on it.
They spent years talking about some fake collusion story with Russia and never apologized for it, never took it back.
And they'll allow people on the show to support that.
To try to justify that.
Or to try to even say that it's not true.
That he did collaborate with Russia.
kid rock
How many times have you been watching the evening news?
I'm a sucker for news.
And I flip between them.
I flip between CNN and MSNBC and Fox.
Mainly Fox.
But then I watch the evening news.
I watch ABC one night.
NBC. This is just one example.
There's a million of them, as you know.
But they're talking about...
It's January 6th, and they completely edit his speech.
They take out the part where he says, march down there peacefully, or whatever.
He actually says that.
And they cut it out.
He says, we're going to march down the Capitol.
Cut.
And then they go, if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country.
I mean, how the fuck do they get away with that?
joe rogan
They get away with it because they are the news, and no one's checking them.
If the news was real, the other news organizations would go, this is horrible propaganda, and what you've done is you've edited out a former president, you've changed his words, this should be illegal.
You're taking it completely out of context.
The whole thing is so fucking screwball.
Every single presidential race we've ever had that I can remember, people contested the results.
kid rock
Hillary Clinton did it and Stacey Abrams.
No fucking big deal.
joe rogan
He didn't really win the election.
They all said there was Russian collusion.
They all said that he was essentially an agent of Russia.
They all said that he's an illegitimate president.
They all said that he didn't win the election.
They all said that.
There were so many people that said it.
It was nuts!
kid rock
Pencil neck fucking dick fuck Adam Schiff.
joe rogan
It's crazy how people still listen to those folks.
unidentified
You know what's crazy about that election?
kid rock
I'm not a conspiracy guy or whatever, but I'm like, fucking, that just seems like shenanigans.
joe rogan
I love when anybody says, I'm not a conspiracy guy.
Does that mean I'm a conspiracy?
kid rock
I'm a total fucking conspiracy guy.
Fuck it.
I don't give a shit either way.
But I was like, there's so many fucking shenanigans that I just...
It's coming so fast with the COVID shit and the ballots all over the place.
You know, Secretary of State are taking liberties, but...
joe rogan
Here's my position.
kid rock
But wait, let me finish this one.
It was that...
Hold on, if I lose my train of thought.
unidentified
Secretary of State...
kid rock
It was that...
Okay, so these...
The biggest corporations on the face of the earth are getting hacked.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
But there's absolutely no way you can get in this election thing.
I'm like, then why aren't these corporations using that technology?
Why are they still getting fucking hacked?
That doesn't just make up...
I just can't figure that out in my fucking mind.
joe rogan
The statement is there's no evidence that they've been hacked.
kid rock
It ain't a crime if you don't get caught either.
joe rogan
It is true.
But there is evidence that you can hack those machines, right?
There is.
Wasn't that, Jamie, the subject of they were going to update the machines in 2024 or something like that?
But they're going to update them.
But they weren't at a certain point in time when they were recording this, where they were reporting on this, rather.
They hadn't updated them.
Here's my take on this.
Election fraud is never zero.
It's not 0%, right?
We can all agree to that, right?
I think we can all agree that there's people that are complete maniacs, that are maniacs for the Democrats or maniacs for the Republicans, and they will do whatever the fuck it takes to get their person to win.
There are certain human beings like that that exist, especially in these very polarized groups, and especially when you've got a guy that you've been comparing to Hitler forever.
So you can kind of treat him as if Hitler's coming, let's stop Hitler.
Literally, you can think like that.
kid rock
They're doing it right now.
joe rogan
You can get people to think like that.
And the moral question would be, if you knew you could stop Hitler from being president, would you do it?
And how would you do it?
And then they act that way.
kid rock
Such bullshit.
joe rogan
But what they don't recognize is that is deeply un-American.
And the only way you're gonna beat this person or any person who runs for president is to be better than them.
That's what this country is supposed to be about.
It's supposed to be about a meritocracy.
It's supposed to be who is the best leader.
Is it her?
Is it him?
Who is it?
Who's the best leader?
And that's the person we should gravitate towards.
Who has the ideas that make the most sense?
Who's the one who understands what the fuck is going on internationally on a deep sense?
Really can tell you what the people, the puppeteers behind the strings, how this is all happening.
kid rock
Well, I think a lot of that would be taken away if we cap the money.
You can raise, let's call it $10 million.
You can each raise $10 million.
Now let's see who spends it the wisest.
joe rogan
Well, it seems insane that you could just donate fucking untold millions of dollars, these super packs.
And they can support these presidents.
They're essentially running the country.
Because you can't beat them.
And they play dirty.
They play so dirty.
I mean, it's kind of impressive.
But it's also, they're exposing the wiring under the machine in a way that it's never been exposed before.
You know, we never were totally aware of how wild it is that There's a group of people that no one ever thinks about called the Deep State.
That is real.
kid rock
They're gonna run Biden right out of there.
Make no mistake.
joe rogan
Oh, they're running him out right now.
kid rock
They're fucking running him out.
joe rogan
That's why all these crimes or all these things he's being charged for.
And then that judge's decision.
How about that judge's decision?
That he was too mentally compromised to be tried.
kid rock
That was the prosecutor's decision.
The investigators.
Her.
Whatever his name was.
H-U-R. That was in his report.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's see what the exact quote was.
kid rock
Does anybody out there need that fucking report to just watch this guy and go like, hey, I feel bad for him.
He's fucking old, right?
We're all going to get there someday.
It's like, can you not fucking look at this guy and go like, I can look in his fucking eyes and go like, something's not fucking there.
Something's wrong.
joe rogan
It's the people that work under him.
Because if he goes, they go.
Then everybody gets appointed by the new person.
kid rock
Special counsel.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay.
The report described the 81-year-old Democrat's memory as...
I wonder why they write that, the 81-year-old Democrat.
How about the president?
How about the president's memory?
As hazy, fuzzy, faulty, poor, and having significant limitations.
It noted that Biden could not recall defining milestones in his own life, such as when his son Bo died or when he served as vice president.
kid rock
God bless his son.
joe rogan
But think about just that.
The way they wrote that.
The 81-year-old Democrats' memory.
Why would they write that?
That seems so nuts.
kid rock
A little political.
joe rogan
He's the president!
He's not just a random Democrat.
Like, what defines him?
If you've got one word, you go with Democrats?
kid rock
Is that the Washington AP writing that, or is that in the special prosecutor's report?
I was unclear.
joe rogan
I was unclear as well.
kid rock
Because that's different.
Of course the AP is going to say that.
I can't see the special prosecutor saying that.
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
kid rock
Because then it sounds very political.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's such a crazy thing to say to call him a Democrat.
He's the president.
He's our leader.
kid rock
I would put it past the media.
joe rogan
It's wild.
But this is what I'm saying about the wiring under the board has been exposed in a way that it's never been exposed before.
You're looking at it and you go, what?
What are you guys doing?
He can't stand trial because he's mentally unfit, but he can run the country.
Don't worry about it.
kid rock
He can't speak.
joe rogan
And he's going to run again.
kid rock
He can hardly fucking walk.
joe rogan
But it seems like when they release information like that, they know what they're doing.
They're slowly chipping away at it.
And by the time probably, I would say like May rolls around, it'll probably be Gavin Newsom.
That would be my guess.
If I was, I'm not like playing this sport, so I'm watching it from the sideline, I'm like, what would I do?
How would I, what moves would I do?
kid rock
I can't, how the fuck can they run Gavin?
I keep hearing that Gavin Newsom, Michelle Obama, like Gavin Newsom, how the fuck?
When you just look at California, one of the most beautiful states, arguably the most beautiful.
unidentified
Yep.
kid rock
In America!
Resources for days, fucking everything!
Him, fucking Pelosi, fucking Maxine Waters, fucking Adam Schiff, they just fucked the whole state up.
Like, fucked it up.
Everybody's running for the fucking hills.
joe rogan
You gotta wonder how much of it is by design.
You gotta wonder of it how much is designed to make the population more unstable, more violent, more scared, more crime, Less ability to prosper.
Everyone's much more vulnerable.
kid rock
Seems like a lot of work of the Democrats, though.
joe rogan
Crime?
It seems like something is probably behind it that's bigger than that.
You're not a conspiracy theorist, right?
I'm 100% a conspiracy theorist.
I love a good conspiracy theorist.
I believed in Bigfoot until about eight years ago.
kid rock
Fucking the Yeti's another story.
I didn't say I didn't believe in the Yeti.
joe rogan
I don't anymore.
But I was all in for a while.
But I've been down so many rabbit holes.
So many 9-11 rabbit holes.
So many, you know, Bohemian Grove rabbit holes.
I went there once.
kid rock
I got kicked out.
joe rogan
Did you?
You went to the Grove?
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh shit, why'd you get kicked out?
kid rock
Fucking weird!
Fucking weird.
I punched a kid in the head.
joe rogan
You punched a kid in the head?
In Bohemian Grove?
kid rock
Yeah, it turns out.
It turns out this fucking kid was an infiltrator.
So then after that, I was kind of this hero.
Like a year or two later, he'd come back.
I was like, I'm not coming to your little fucking weird party out in the fucking woods.
I was like, I went once.
It ain't that cool.
joe rogan
So the infiltrator...
What happened with you and the infiltrator?
kid rock
We're sitting around this fire.
You have these little...
They're kind of like treehouses or campsites, but they're really nice.
Everyone has a private chef.
Really?
Yeah, you do share a room.
Me and Jimmy John shared a room.
That was fun.
And I can't remember kids talking around this fire, and he started popping that shit, and I just...
Fucking went at him.
Gave him a couple, helped him up.
I was like, hey, we good?
We were, I think, you know, we weren't on great terms, but I think we had an understanding.
It was just, you know, one of those things.
And then I couldn't go to the concert that night.
I think Zach Brown or somebody was playing, like, you can't come.
I had to sit home like I was in fucking time out or something.
I'm like, fuck this place.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, your kid rock and you're getting left alone by these people with some fucking crazy person and you defend yourself.
kid rock
Fucking weird.
joe rogan
There's gonna be a certain percentage of people that are just out of their fucking minds and if you haven't vetted them, that's on you.
kid rock
For all I remember, it could have been drunk shit or whatever.
It wasn't the end of the world.
It was a little tussle and a little hit the ground, maybe a punch here and there.
It was like, you know, then it was done.
It wasn't like, you know...
joe rogan
But it was a fight.
You're just a nice guy.
You didn't beat him to death.
kid rock
It was a tussle.
joe rogan
You're a nice guy.
But it's...
How many people infiltrate that place?
Because a bunch of people have filmed videos there now.
kid rock
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Alex Jones was the first.
Him and John Ronson, this is back before Alex Jones' persona non grata, and people would do legitimate journalists, like John Ronson would do these things with him.
kid rock
Not familiar.
joe rogan
You never seen that video of them in Bohemian Grove?
kid rock
I've never heard of John Ronson.
joe rogan
John Ronson's a brilliant guy.
He's an author.
He wrote that book, So You're Getting Publicly Shamed, about social media shaming.
He's an interesting guy.
He's a very funny guy.
So he went with Alex to Bohemian Grove, and they filmed these rituals.
These people dressed like druids, and they're burning this effigy in front of a giant owl statue.
kid rock
The owl statue is just fucking hilarious.
So I'm there on day one, right?
If we're drinking beers, it's pretty laid back.
There's some really cool talks.
I remember this dude talking about shooting asteroids out that might hit the earth in so many years, shit like that.
I'm like, fuck, this is cool.
But the first day, it was the first evening, and you gather around the owl by this lake, if I remember correctly, which could be a little hazy.
It was a long time ago.
And I've heard about this place.
I'm like, this is some real secret-ass shit, man.
I can't believe I'm fucking here, right?
And it's just a trove of celebrities.
Fucking everywhere you turn, it's just fucking A, fucking A. So you go there, and I'm thinking, we're going to hear some shit, right?
They're about to introduce the first speaker.
And I'm like, fuck, this is going to be some shit.
And no offense against this guy.
We consider him friendly.
We have very good mutual friends.
But they're like, ladies and gentlemen, Tony Danza.
And I'm like, what?
I'm like, come on, man.
Who's the fucking boss?
Tell them bitches.
I wish he would have just gone up there and been like, who's the boss, bitch?
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
kid rock
I was like, no fucking way, man.
I was like, we came all the way to this secret-ass shit.
And I love Tony.
Fucking love him.
But I'm like, come on, man.
I was like, they brought Reagan back from the dead and he's going to speak a hologram or some shit.
joe rogan
You were hoping for some devil shit.
kid rock
Just some crazy shit, one way or the other.
He was a very good speaker, I've got to say.
joe rogan
Maybe they toned it down.
Maybe they toned it down after they've been infiltrated.
unidentified
Oh, really?
This has to be 20 years ago.
kid rock
I'm terrible with dates, but it's a long time ago.
joe rogan
Okay, because when Alex snuck in, was like...
unidentified
Was this like the 90s, Jamie?
joe rogan
What was it?
Like when Alex Jones and John Ronson snuck into Bohemian Grove.
That's when they first got that video.
I want to say it was in the 90s.
I would say it was like 99 or something like that.
kid rock
I did have some fun there, I gotta say.
It was fucking weird.
I met Paul Pelosi and his son.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
kid rock
And Chris Matthews.
But I was hanging out with them.
We were having cool conversations.
Kind of weird.
And then they asked me if I had to come play my guitar.
joe rogan
Oh no.
kid rock
And sing at one of these camp things.
And I was like, I feel so used.
joe rogan
I feel so dirty.
kid rock
I don't do this shit, man.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's got to be weird.
Hey man, play us a song.
kid rock
Well, it's kind of like an unspoken requirement, like a wink wink, like you need to take your guitar over there, you know, if you want to be in good graces or be a team player type deal, and I'm like, yeah, I really don't.
joe rogan
A friend of mine went to a party, and in the middle of the party, Michael Bolton just starts singing, and everybody gathers around while Michael Bolton is standing there singing.
kid rock
Was it set up?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was set up.
kid rock
Oh, that's fine.
joe rogan
But no one knew.
And all of a sudden, like, I think no one knew.
kid rock
How do you know?
joe rogan
He didn't know.
But it was just like, what's going on?
kid rock
Then how do you know?
joe rogan
All of a sudden, Michael Bolton's singing, and everyone would just be quiet.
kid rock
It's not a bad strategy if you don't want to look like a putz to, like...
Otherwise, you're just like, hey, these motherfuckers paid me a shit ton of money, and I'm going to sing some songs.
joe rogan
Right, that's what it is.
It's like the ultimate flex, you know?
kid rock
Yeah, that's how I used to fund my foundation, doing corporate gigs.
joe rogan
Dude, Dana White had a birthday party.
kid rock
I've played it a few times.
joe rogan
I know you have.
I know you have.
And Dana White's birthday parties are wild.
And he had a birthday party, I think it was for his 40th, and Stone Temple Pilots played.
Dude, they put on a show like it was a fucking packed arena.
kid rock
That's what I did.
joe rogan
I mean, I know you do.
kid rock
Ask Dana.
That's exactly what he said to me.
He goes, there's 150 people here.
I go, where'd you think you were?
I was like, fucking...
AT&T Stadium.
joe rogan
That's exactly what he told me.
kid rock
You kind of got to put yourself in that mindset.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
kid rock
Because those things can be fucking grueling.
joe rogan
Right.
They can be weird if people aren't paying attention.
In the Stone Temple Palace thing, there wasn't a lot of people there.
There was only a few hundred people there.
It was crazy.
kid rock
That's usually what they are, a couple hundred people.
joe rogan
Dude was killing it.
Killing it.
He had the bullhorn out and everything.
kid rock
Scott was the best.
joe rogan
Oh my god, what an animal that guy was.
Like, it was so inspiring, like, how good he was at performing.
kid rock
Yeah, he was fucking loved Scott.
God bless him.
joe rogan
They killed that show.
It was really good, man.
It was really good, and you felt, like, super lucky to be there.
kid rock
That's great.
joe rogan
You know, there's something about seeing something where there's not a lot of people around to see it.
You know, that's why I like watching those UFC fights in the Apex Center.
There's something about, even though I know the world's seeing it on video, like, to be there live while that's happening.
kid rock
That was one of the positive things about COVID. Can we talk about that punch at the last fucking one we were at, sitting there?
That fucking, I think it was the second...
joe rogan
Josh Emmett.
Yeah.
kid rock
That crack...
joe rogan
Oh my God, dude.
That guy punches so hard.
kid rock
I've only been to a handful of the fights.
I know you've fucking...
Obviously, that's your...
joe rogan
Josh Emmett might be the hardest puncher in that division ever.
kid rock
I never heard anything like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he hit so hard.
kid rock
I thought the guy was dead.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that was a crazy combination of Bryce Mitchell moving forward quick and then him catching him right at the end of one of the most powerful punchers ever in the 145-pound division.
Show that again?
Watch this.
Look at how that dude's built.
kid rock
You can't appreciate it without the smack.
unidentified
Smack!
joe rogan
Look at the fucking physique on this animal.
I mean, Josh Ammon is just a ball of muscle.
kid rock
It sounded like somebody smacked a 2x4 against a garbage can.
joe rogan
Bro, if that guy hits anybody, they go night-night.
I mean, anybody.
kid rock
Damn.
joe rogan
Anybody.
He had this fight with Michael Johnson.
Michael Johnson's a really good fighter.
He knocked out Dustin Poirier at one point.
Michael Johnson's very, very legit.
And Michael Johnson's winning the fight, and Josh Emmett catches him with one punch and just shuts him off.
Watch this.
So Michael Johnson's winning this fight.
Boom.
One shot, dude.
One shot.
I mean, crazy power, man.
I mean, his power is preposterous.
He's got the total, what Farah Sahabi calls the touch of death.
That's the touch of death.
He's got it better than anybody in the sport.
The touch of death.
But that Ilya Toporia guy that just knocked down Volkanovski, he's got the touch of death, too.
There's guys that just...
kid rock
These guys are getting bigger.
Nope, they're just getting stronger, but their technique's getting better.
It's like any sport.
It just keeps...
joe rogan
There's a lot of factors.
There's a lot of factors to having that kind of power, and some of it is just pure genetics.
Some of it is just you just got lucky.
You got that frame.
Whatever it is, like Josh, he's built like, if you look at his body, it's just like a fucking tank, just his ball of muscle, and he gets so much force into it.
And that's just a gigantic advantage.
If you use it correctly like Toporia does...
Did you see that fight with Toporia and Volkanovski?
kid rock
I still don't know all the names.
I know a handful of names.
joe rogan
It was the featherweight title this past weekend.
kid rock
No.
joe rogan
It was Alexander Volkanovski.
He was trying to defend his title against Ilya Toporia.
And Volkanovski had been dominant in this division forever.
And Toporia put him to sleep, man.
jamie vernon
This is not the fight, by the way.
This is just like...
joe rogan
Yeah, the lead-up to the fight.
Yeah, Teporia, he put him to sleep.
It was wild to see, man.
This kid is a fucking monster.
And he's only 27 years old.
And he said he was gonna do it.
He said, I'm gonna knock him out in the second round.
kid rock
Well, do any of those guys go and go like, you know what, my chances are about 50-50 on this one.
joe rogan
No.
Some guys have respect, you know, for their opponents.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They say things like, he's a great champion.
kid rock
That's no fun, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
That's no fun.
This is a talk shit sport.
joe rogan
It is.
kid rock
And it hypes up the match.
Gets everybody going.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Fucking.
joe rogan
And it's also part of the psychological warfare, because that shit works.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially on some people.
Some people, like Nate Diaz, doesn't work out at all.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
You can talk shit to him all day long.
That's not going to change anything about the kind of ass whooping you're going to get.
But for some guys, it fucks with their head hardcore.
They just have a really hard time with someone talking shit about them, and they get real emotional.
kid rock
It's a lot of sports.
It's a lot of fucking, even in my business, music.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You see people when that red light comes on, when you're doing something live or taped to television or whatever?
You see people that red light comes on.
I even have band members.
Out of like 10 of them, it's usually one.
Somebody just fucking can't keep it together and fucks up.
It's just one of those things.
It's just something about having that fucking cool, calm, collective fucking mindset when you're going into anything that's stressful or, you know, high energy, whatever it might be.
joe rogan
How difficult was it for you when you first started getting famous?
Because you go from being a regular dude to being Kid Rock in not a lot of time.
kid rock
What was it like?
Getting pussy?
joe rogan
No.
It wasn't like being the man.
That's pretty much what it was.
But was it stressful?
Was it like hard to deal with?
kid rock
Fuck no.
joe rogan
Wasn't it awesome?
kid rock
It was fucking awesome.
unidentified
I love it.
kid rock
It's the greatest fucking shit on earth.
I'm like, I have to worry about fucking buying food.
Like, I'm going to be able to put my kid through college at this point.
We're getting a new fucking house and a new car.
Fucking get a nice seat at the restaurant.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Fucking no problem with that.
I'm not one of those people that bitch about it.
unidentified
It's so tough.
joe rogan
What do you think about people that can't handle it?
Like, what do you think it is?
kid rock
Fucking get away from it!
Britney Spears, move back to wherever the fuck you're from.
Where's she from?
Arkansas or Louisiana or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
kid rock
Somewhere down there?
Get the fuck out of L.A. That place is eating you fucking alive.
joe rogan
I think Britney's in Vegas now, right?
kid rock
Oh, so much better.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's better for health.
kid rock
You know, I'm not going to do heroin anymore.
I've stepped it down to crack.
joe rogan
And gambling.
kid rock
There's ways to get away from it.
There's ways.
Trust me, you know this too.
So many of these people, because I've been here and seen this first fucking hand, the front row seat.
Half these people are telling these people.
They're feeding the machine through a source to get their story told.
They're telling them where they're going to be at so the paparazzi's there.
It's a fucking game.
joe rogan
It's a publicity game.
It's weird.
And it works.
You can make a lot of money that way.
kid rock
Who the fuck wants?
joe rogan
That's what the Kardashians did.
Exactly.
unidentified
Worked out.
joe rogan
Worked out well.
kid rock
God bless them.
joe rogan
Solid business model.
For them, it really worked.
If you just want to make money, that's the way to do it.
kid rock
I will never get the big ass thing.
I don't get it.
It's just right over my head.
joe rogan
You don't like big asses at all?
kid rock
No.
joe rogan
Really?
You like them little?
kid rock
Just fucking small white pancake ass with huge tits.
joe rogan
Every man has his type.
kid rock
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Everybody has his type.
But there's like this fucking ass movement in the last 10 so many years.
It's awesome to watch, watching rap videos and shit.
It's fucking great.
I'm like, really?
That's, alright.
joe rogan
You just don't know what the appeal is?
kid rock
None.
joe rogan
Wow.
kid rock
None.
joe rogan
I don't think I could be further from you in that department.
I love a good ass.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
A big girl that looks like she could squat.
kid rock
Sly stone?
Different strokes for different folks.
joe rogan
Girls look like they can pick up heavy kettlebells.
kid rock
Oh God.
I don't have a heavy kettlebell.
I'm working with the old two pound hand weight down here.
joe rogan
Different strokes for different folks.
And isn't that the message anyway?
Yeah, totally.
It's really what it should be.
kid rock
I'd say everything against it.
I'm just saying, I don't get it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get that you don't get it.
kid rock
And that's okay.
joe rogan
You got like a 1970s sensibility.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like the Catherine Bach days.
kid rock
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Dukes of Hazzard.
kid rock
Oh fuck.
joe rogan
Remember how hot she was?
kid rock
See, if a girl with a huge ass drove up in the General Lee, I'd definitely be excited.
joe rogan
That lady was so pretty.
Oh my god.
I remember watching that show thinking, that's not even possible to be that pretty.
How the fuck is she that pretty?
kid rock
All those shows.
Love Boat, Fantasy Island, Dukes of Hazzard.
joe rogan
How about Charlie's Angels?
kid rock
Charlie's Angels.
joe rogan
Three hot chicks out there solving crimes.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
kid rock
With guns.
Sold.
Fantasy Island, like, they got a fucking midget.
You're like, yes!
joe rogan
Welcome to Fantasy Island.
kid rock
He's in a suit!
They got a little guy in a suit.
Like, fucking, he's got an accent?
Oh, fuck, turn it up.
joe rogan
Was there always a lesson in Fantasy Island?
Like they didn't really need what they were asking for and they should have just stayed where they were?
Wasn't there like those kind of messages?
I don't remember.
kid rock
Wasn't it be kind of like, careful what you wish for?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Those are always that way.
You know?
There's always like a trick.
The genie's got a trick.
Careful what you wish for.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's never like, oh yeah, and then I'm going to be the king of the world and everything worked out great.
Have one wish.
I'm gonna wish for a million wishes.
That would kill you, right?
If you do that, they get real mad.
Like, no, you abused the wish.
kid rock
Totally.
joe rogan
Imagine if that was real.
Imagine if genies were real.
kid rock
I was always jealous of Ricky Schroeder on Silver Spoons.
I'm like, fuck, look, all these kids got a fucking train in his living room, man.
How cool is that?
Pinball machines everywhere.
Shit.
I'm like, fuck, that looks awesome.
It's not like I grew up without.
It's from a very middle, upper class family.
We had everything we needed.
We had a swimming pool and tennis court and shit.
All that.
But I was like, fuck, Silver Spoons.
You're like, we don't have money like that.
That's some other shit.
joe rogan
That's what social media is doing times ten, right?
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine being a kid today and just dealing with all this social media shit.
kid rock
Trying to keep up with the Joneses.
joe rogan
Impossible.
Yeah.
kid rock
I think it's even worse.
Well, my granddaughter's nine, but I have nieces who are teenagers and going through all that stuff, and it's...
Man, the influence it has over them, and then what the other kids say, and then what they're all saying on social media, and what the new trend is, and what the new this.
I think it's always been that way, but now it's just...
Exaggerated times, a thousand, because everything's right there.
joe rogan
It's a difficult thing for adults to handle.
And the emotional aspect of going back and forth with people and comments and stuff, and the whole world is commenting on things.
Like, when they're doing that to each other, the kind of pressure that they're putting under them, no kids have ever experienced that before.
No kids have ever grown up with that before.
This is a totally new pressure.
And if you look at the data, like, suicide went up, self-harm went up, depression went up.
It's not healthy.
It's not normal.
I think it's a double.
kid rock
I said that the year Twitter came out, you might be able to look this up.
I think it was in Rolling Stone or somewhere or whatever.
They're like, what do you think about Twitter?
And I said, Twitter's fucking gay.
This is Friday we came out.
And so as time went on, because I always saw people having a Subway sandwich for lunch or whatever, I'm like, no one gives a fuck.
joe rogan
Oh, right, the early days.
kid rock
Yeah, like, you know, I kept promoting stuff and this, that, and the other, fucking getting a rise out of somebody, stirring the pot.
But then the funny part was, years later, you know, Twitter blew up to be this huge fucking thing, and they're like, this fucking reporter's getting kind of snooty with me.
And he's like, you said...
And I quote, Twitter's gay.
I'm like, no fucking way.
I go, I didn't say that shit.
I go, and I'm so sick of you fuckers in the media misquoting me every time, every opportunity you get.
I said, to be clear, I said Twitter is fucking gay.
All right?
Get it right.
joe rogan
The I gotcha questions like that.
You said...
kid rock
Dude, that's why I stopped doing interviews like 10 so many years ago.
Because, you know, you used to have to promote something called every radio station and every market.
It's like that would be part of your day.
Get up early, which I was not good at back then.
These days I'm up at 3.30, but I was not good at back in these days.
It's like get up early, call all these different places, all these things like weekly.
And it turned into, as the internet and social media started becoming prevalent, it turned into, I gotcha.
Because that was the headline.
And as my publicist used to say, dude, you speak in fucking headlines because you have no fucking filter.
And I'm like, I don't.
It's going to be very tough to change that.
So it was always this, you know, be your buddy.
Say some nice things.
Hey, your new record's great.
unidentified
Blah, blah, blah.
kid rock
Then, like, fucking get you on the line with something.
Of course, I go off the fucking rails.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
And then, fucking, that's all you hear about.
And it just, you know...
joe rogan
Well, that's what they want to do.
kid rock
They still do.
joe rogan
They only have a couple of minutes with you.
They want to say something outrageous or question you in a way that's going to go viral.
kid rock
I just got tired of dealing with it.
And I feel bad for so many reporters that were so good to me, especially in Detroit.
You know, that I just kind of...
I think a lot of them took it personal.
I've been meaning to contact him for all these years and say, hey, I'm going to do stuff with you again.
I'm starting to come out of it.
I'm doing your show.
I'm like, I get it.
I got some stuff to promote.
But if I never saw another fucking TV camera on an interview again, I'd be fine.
I'd be totally fucking fine.
I don't need to be on fucking Good Morning America every week.
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
But you don't have to.
You have a beautiful setup.
kid rock
Well, I'm very blessed to not have to.
joe rogan
The way you're living your life is amazing.
kid rock
I don't want to overshadow that.
I'm extremely blessed.
joe rogan
Oh, I know you appreciate it.
But the way you're living...
I've talked on this podcast many times about you giving me the tour of your house.
kid rock
It wasn't even done.
Oh, by the way, you got that wrong.
joe rogan
What did I get wrong?
kid rock
You said, my girl listens to you religiously, my fiancée, and she'll always play me the hot clips, you know?
Right.
That one was on me, and you're like, he's got a golden shower.
I'm like, a golden shower?
That's like pissing on somebody.
It's a gold bathroom.
joe rogan
The whole bathroom's gold.
kid rock
Yeah, there's no shower.
joe rogan
The shower's not gold?
Well, it wasn't in place yet.
kid rock
No, it's happening.
joe rogan
I'd just seen the tile, and it was golden, and someone told me it was a golden shower.
I was like, that's the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life.
kid rock
The golden urinal.
joe rogan
But the walls were gold.
kid rock
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Everything was gold.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
It was before, when I went into it, it was before everything was installed.
Was that three, four years ago?
Yeah, I think it was three years ago.
kid rock
You have no idea how hard it was to find gold toilets.
Not joking.
Now you can go on Google and you pump them up.
Well, I had to get the seat gold-plated because I couldn't find it.
I found a gold toilet and couldn't find a seat in the lid.
That fucking guy had to like, you know, cheaply gold-plate it.
joe rogan
Well, gold is a weird...
You ever see what they can do with gold?
They can take a little tiny piece of gold and cover this whole table?
kid rock
Absolutely.
I get so much shit gold-plated, 18-karat, 24-karat gold-plated.
joe rogan
Look at that, bro.
kid rock
Where the fuck did you get that?
joe rogan
The internet knows everything.
kid rock
Hey, that's on the internet?
joe rogan
Bro, look at that.
That's amazing.
A gold urinal.
unidentified
Why not?
joe rogan
Your house is incredible.
I describe it to everybody.
I'm like, there's two bedrooms.
The fucking house is gigantic.
It's bigger than the actual White House.
It's got two bedrooms.
I think your house is bigger than the actual White House.
unidentified
No, fuck no.
joe rogan
I think so.
No way.
Yeah, somebody was telling me that.
kid rock
No fucking way.
The White House is like 100,000 square feet.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
That thing looks little.
kid rock
I've looked it up.
joe rogan
But the White House has more than one house, right?
kid rock
There's more than one house.
There's levels.
There's underground, basement, main floor.
Then you go up and up to the main residence.
And they have tunnels that go out to the other side to the VP's place where the bowling alley is and shit.
joe rogan
Bro, is that the dumbest idea of all time?
To tell everybody where your president's going to be all the time?
What a fucking dumb idea!
Oh, he's in this super visible house.
It's just a house.
kid rock
I think they're pretty protective over there.
joe rogan
How protective can you be?
If you watch those Instagram drone videos...
kid rock
The airspace is shut down.
joe rogan
Okay, 55,000 square feet.
I'm wrong.
I thought your house was bigger.
kid rock
No, mine's 27 or something.
joe rogan
But what your house is is...
But it's on 200 acres, not 18. Well, your house is exactly if an 18-year-old kid won the lottery.
kid rock
Oh, 100%.
joe rogan
And said you can have any house you want.
I want a fucking giant room for jacuzzis with exposed beams like a collapsed mine.
I'm like, this is amazing.
kid rock
I joke with my friends when we're touring.
I love to give people tours.
unidentified
I'm proud of it.
kid rock
You know what I've done.
Hard work and shit.
It's one of my favorite things to do.
And I joke with them all the time.
And it's pretty serious.
If I had this fucking house 15 years ago, I'd be dead.
I'd be fucking dead.
There's no question.
joe rogan
It's an amazing setup, dude.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
You made a party house.
Perfect.
Beautiful view.
Great place to be.
kid rock
I believe if they were an advertiser, it would be a great place to entertain.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
An entertainer's dream.
joe rogan
An entertainer's dream.
Yeah.
If you were trying to sell that, oh boy.
What is it, about 27,000 square feet?
How big is it?
kid rock
Yeah.
Two bedrooms.
I put the elevator in because I'm going to die there.
I was like, I'm going to need to get up and down these floors one day.
joe rogan
That elevator's amazing, too.
That's an elevator.
kid rock
Funny when the architect, you know, that's probably my second favorite thing outside, passion outside of, you know, be a close second with hunting and the outdoors, you know, as music is...
Interior design and architecture.
And so I'm designing a house with, I had to use an architect, obviously, for many reasons, but he's like, sure you want to put the elevator right in the foyer of the main entrance.
He goes, you know, most people hide it, you know, off to the back by a laundry room or something.
I'm like...
Yeah, I want it right in the fucking middle.
I want it gold so people walk in and they're like, Kid Rock's got a fucking elevator.
joe rogan
Yeah, put it right out front, bro.
Yeah, this is a house for ballers.
unidentified
This is a house of learning doctors and ballers.
joe rogan
That's an amazing story.
That's how I would do it.
kid rock
You built something, right?
joe rogan
No, I bought a house.
I bought a house idea.
But if I was going to build a house, I'd build a house like that.
I think what I want to do is I want to build a podcast ranch.
I've been thinking a lot about that lately.
kid rock
You got a lot of cool shit here.
But you can take all this and, like, I've already figured out your lighting here.
For you.
I was telling the guys up front.
Yeah.
So there's several spaces here and there's a lot of light switches.
I noticed already just from doing a small tour.
Fuck Lutron.
Fuck Crestron.
Fuck that automated shit.
unidentified
Okay.
kid rock
What you do, you might be able to do the whole building.
If not, you can do it in sections.
It makes sense.
Like this whole front thing, everything's on dimmers and there's one switch strategically placed when you walk out of the door and maybe somewhere by your office or something.
unidentified
Oh.
kid rock
All hooked up to the same breaker.
Click.
Like when I walk into my studio where you've been down there or whatever, you know, things like 10,000 square feet, there's two light switches.
Shut everything off in there.
Three, because one in the studio.
It never breaks.
Works perfectly when you turn it on, you're ready to rock.
If the cleaning people need to do something, they can adjust the dimmer up or down.
And it's the cheapest, smartest, most efficient fucking thing you can do.
joe rogan
Good advice from Kid Rock.
kid rock
I love that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's good advice.
Yeah, this place is a little chaotic.
But this used to be...
Well, I can't say that.
I can't talk too much about it, what it used to be.
But we...
I've been thinking about doing something in a place where we could do a lot of other shit, too.
kid rock
Just putting a fucking...
joe rogan
Have a place with a lake.
kid rock
Runway.
joe rogan
You can definitely get somewhere with a runway out here.
kid rock
You're doing so well and you're so successful.
Get a chopper.
So you can bring the people.
What a cool experience.
They fly to your ranch because you're going to get more value the farther you go out.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I limit my time in those fucking things.
kid rock
Oh, I do too.
Rock and roll and choppers don't mix.
joe rogan
They freak me out a little bit.
kid rock
Me too.
joe rogan
Yeah, they took out Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Didn't it?
kid rock
Jim Crow.
joe rogan
Was it a plane crash that took out Steve Raven?
kid rock
No, it was a helicopter coming out of Alpine Valley.
Up in Wisconsin.
Jim Crow says a million of them.
joe rogan
That's a scary one to die in.
kid rock
My buddy T-Roy from...
What's it called?
Fuck.
Montgomery Gentry.
joe rogan
Bill Burr has his own helicopter license and he took me out.
kid rock
I took lessons.
joe rogan
Did you?
kid rock
I took lessons for a while.
I had this grand idea when I was younger, when I first started getting fucking money, and I'm like, I'm gonna get a fucking helicopter.
joe rogan
I'm gonna get a penny of gold.
kid rock
10,000 fucking, yeah, exactly.
I would.
unidentified
100%.
kid rock
Gold flake.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
It looked like a lowrider.
kid rock
I was gonna get like 10,000 acres in the middle of nowhere, build my fucking little fucking redneck empire.
And then, so I started taking these lessons in a single-engine Robinson, and I let my hand off the collective a couple times, and like, you know, the fucking, the teacher's like, dude, what the fuck did you do that?
unidentified
I'm like, you didn't tell me not to fucking do that, and blah, blah, blah.
kid rock
And then what really was a deal breaker, I'm like, I know myself.
I'm like, we'll be sitting around.
Getting tuned up.
And I'll be like, you guys want to get the chopper out?
Go for a spin?
joe rogan
Oh my god, drawing a flying helicopter.
I was like, could you imagine?
kid rock
No.
Let's make enough money to ride in the back.
joe rogan
Yeah, the only times that I've been in one, I'm like, keep it together, keep it together.
It feels like you're in a flying football helmet.
It seems so fragile.
They seem so fragile when you're in them, they're like...
kid rock
I'll never get in a single engine.
Anything, again, that flies.
Never.
Everything that flies is based on a system of two.
Two fuel pumps, two engines, two everything.
You can go without one of them.
Your odds are pretty good when those things fuck up.
Mainly speaking about planes, it's pilot error, probably 90 some percent of the time.
joe rogan
There was a recent private jet that crashed.
kid rock
Yeah, in LA. Yeah.
It was a Challenger.
Yeah, Challenger 300. A couple people got out of the back and the pilots died.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, the people survived, which is crazy if you look at the footage.
The passengers did.
Oh, Jesus Christ, dude.
That's insane.
I thought that was in LA. Oh my God.
It is in Florida.
Right.
Dude, that is so wild to see.
Watch this land.
Watch this happen again.
Yeah, do it from the beginning.
Watch this land.
This is so crazy.
Look at this.
kid rock
That's the kind of plane I got.
joe rogan
Look at that, bro.
kid rock
Fuck.
joe rogan
I mean, how insane is that?
kid rock
And I think it was three people came out of the back.
jamie vernon
Yeah, the pilots.
joe rogan
Amazing.
Amazing.
Damn, they just had to just land it on the fucking highway.
Holy shit, man.
Imagine trying to land a plane and knowing you're gonna take out those cars and you're probably not gonna land anyway.
You're probably not gonna be able to pull it off anyway.
You don't have any engines anymore.
kid rock
Scary.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
kid rock
It's scary just not being in control of anything.
At least for me, I'm a bit of a control freak.
Just not being in control of any situation, especially when it's something like that, that always makes you think a little bit more.
joe rogan
That's why when things aren't a meritocracy and you're hiring because you want things to be inclusive, and you're not getting the best people working on your fucking airplanes, flying your airplanes, you're not getting the best people, what are you doing?
In any business.
But especially, like, airlines.
That is one of the scariest fucking methods of transportation.
Whether it's the safest, it's arguable, it is very safe, relatively.
But it's one of the scariest for people.
It gives them the most anxiety.
Because you give up all control.
You're hoping that the pilots can keep it together.
You're hoping that the equipment's been tested correctly.
You're hoping that everybody, like, tightens every bolt and checks every fucking weld.
You're hoping they do a really good job.
Like, they're really good at it.
kid rock
They do do a pretty good job overall.
Like, I'll even say, you know, like, you know, just a lot, like, this is a place that makes sense for regulations.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You know what I mean?
A hundred percent.
As somebody who's very, you know, very right of center, you know, less regulations on most things, that's something that makes sense, and they have a lot of good ones in place, you know?
It's, they...
You just can't fucking jump in a plane.
Like, when something like that happens, something's fucked up.
It'll be interesting to see when they, you know, do their investigation what happened exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, it would be interesting.
Like, how do you get a double engine failure?
That sounds insane.
kid rock
It's like when Sully, you know, landed out on the Hudson River.
It was, you know, geese or whatever it was or something like that.
Okay, that's, you know...
You know, I've flown out of many airports where they go out there with shotguns before just to boom, with blanks just to get the geese out of there.
And they actually let you hunt them at some certain times of year.
It's like I know at Metro Airport in Detroit, there was a congressman that asked.
They had a special permit to go over there and hunt them at certain times of year.
And I loved bird hunt.
joe rogan
Yeah, they try to keep populations down.
They have snipers.
They do a lot of different things.
They try a bunch of different methods to keep ducks and pigeons and shit.
How many planes have been taken out by birds?
Probably quite a few, huh?
kid rock
It's becoming more common.
joe rogan
Really?
kid rock
You never know if something's more common or is the media just that much more accessible with everything.
I always wonder with that, like...
As the population grows, things make sense.
It gets more of whatever.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
But you just don't know in this day and age.
There's fucking how many 24-7 news channels all trying to report and get an exclusive story.
joe rogan
And some of them just straight up gaslighting you.
kid rock
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Gaslighting you on the news.
kid rock
If I shit my pants right now, just legit shit my fucking pants, it would be the biggest story of this week, maybe next week.
joe rogan
It'll be a big one.
That loser.
He shit his pants.
As if it's never happened to you.
kid rock
Well, it's not like the left-wing media is reporting any good stuff I do.
joe rogan
No.
kid rock
I'm just in their sights.
joe rogan
What we need is a non-wing media.
That's what we need.
There should be value in just the news, and that's what Dr. Phil wants to do.
That's supposed to be the AP. Yeah, it's supposed to be, but it's not anymore.
Because I think journalists at some point in time, at least corporate journalists, a big percentage of them decided that they're working towards a better future.
They're activists.
You know?
And I think some of those people are not very charismatic.
And people don't like them that much.
They just happen to be on television.
kid rock
Why do many of these people refuse to retire?
joe rogan
Because now they have a career.
That's all they have now.
kid rock
It's their identity.
joe rogan
It's their identity.
kid rock
It's like they're 75 years old plus.
They refuse to go away.
joe rogan
Yeah, they won't go away.
And they also want to give their opinions all the time.
A lot of these people want to give their opinions on things.
kid rock
Yeah, I want someone who's actually, if they're in the media, who has consequences on their opinions.
When you're fucking 77, you know, and you're, what's her name from ABC or whatever, like, who's crying at fucking Hillary Clinton's, you know, when she lost the election, who reports fucking world news.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You're like...
She has nothing to fucking lose.
joe rogan
That's not a journalist.
unidentified
No.
kid rock
I want somebody who's young, has a family.
Like, you have shit to actually lose if you're gonna sway things this, that, and the other and get called out on it if you're in the media.
If you want to talk shit, join a band.
joe rogan
I just feel like we need objective news with no spin at all.
kid rock
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And not coming out of a place where you don't want to report on a certain thing because it makes Trump look good.
Just look at what are the facts?
What are we dealing with?
What are we dealing with in terms of the economy?
What are we dealing with in terms of international conflict?
What are the facts?
What's actually happening?
Don't twist it in some weird liberal or conservative way.
kid rock
If they went by facts and things like that, There's no one been better than Trump.
The shit he got done, and if you just look at the numbers in his record, forget about all the noise.
joe rogan
You see that guy was one of the founders of Facebook who talked about it, and he said it was the right message but the wrong messenger.
He talked about all the different things that Trump did that it turns out it worked.
kid rock
But I... Even though we're friends, even before we became good friends, I understood, as I think a lot of people did, not a ton, a good amount of people understood that there's a method to that, to what people call madness.
When he says, you know, like, fucking Russia, go after fucking Poland if you don't want to pay your fair share of NATO. My sense tells me, no, he's never going to let that happen.
But...
He's going to fucking go in there and fucking let them know you're going to pay your fucking money.
He's not going to let that happen.
I would say in my heart and the way I feel, there's no fucking way to let that happen.
It's like when he's telling certain countries, you know, like, if you're going to go into Ukraine, I'll fucking blow up Moscow.
Even if they only believe in 5%, fucking keeps them out.
You know what I mean?
The guy knows how to fucking go in and get shit done and talk business-wise and make these statements.
And they don't know what the fuck he's going to do.
But I have to say, when he was in office, by me, he did the right thing pretty much every fucking time.
Everything he did for this country, whether it was keeping the border in check, fucking everybody working, including minorities, energy fucking independence, build the fucking military up, keep us out of fucking wars.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
joe rogan
I think if people could look at it without his personality attached to it, they'd be able to see that.
But that's one of the most amazing things the media has done, is they've turned a guy who was a celebrity, who was beloved, who was the host of The Celebrity Apprentice on NBC. Zelensky was a celebrity.
kid rock
Everyone puts him on the highest fucking pedestal, like, oh, he's the greatest!
It's like...
joe rogan
Well, that's confusing too, right?
kid rock
Super confusing.
joe rogan
That whole thing, when the left is calling for war, and the left wants war, that's like, what has happened to the world?
kid rock
Trump just said the smartest thing.
Everything he says to me is fucking great, but smartest thing, he's like, we should not, I've kind of spoke about this with family and friends for the years, like, why do we keep getting into these wars, giving countries this fucking money, and we get nothing in return?
This should be a fucking loan or we should take land or natural resources that they can buy back one day with a small interest or something.
Why are we just giving fucking money away, giving our resources?
You know the fucking trillions we spent in Afghanistan and Iraq?
joe rogan
So what's the answer to that?
Why did they do that?
kid rock
I have no fucking idea.
I wish I had the answer.
I'm not smart enough to know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's probably someone who could probably illuminate it for us.
kid rock
Does the debt matter?
I don't understand how the debt fucking matters.
I don't get it.
joe rogan
National debt?
kid rock
Yeah.
Everyone's always bitching about the debt, but we just fucking keep spending money.
Like, no business survives like that.
That's just common sense.
But they keep doing it.
I'm like, it must not matter because we have the biggest bomb.
It's like trying to collect from the biggest bully in school.
Like, hey, where's my $20?
He's like, I'll beat your ass!
Like, okay, I'll get it next year.
joe rogan
Who do we owe all that money to?
kid rock
You know, they say China, they say this country, that.
I'm like...
joe rogan
Imagine if China just bought America, if like one day they're like, oh, they own us.
kid rock
Imagine if they tried to collect.
joe rogan
Look at all the people, usdebtclock.org.
Oh my God, look at how much money.
kid rock
34 trillion.
joe rogan
Yo, look at how crazy this is.
When you watch this, it's so insane.
kid rock
Yep, they're like, hey, we need to send another 60 billion here.
We need fucking 100 billion for this.
joe rogan
The thousands.
Just look how quick the thousands go by.
The thousands in national debt.
kid rock
There's another hundred.
joe rogan
It's insane to watch.
kid rock
It's bananas.
It's so weird.
They got that ticker in New York City.
joe rogan
Debt per citizen.
$101,960.
Debt per taxpayer, $265,178 per taxpayer.
kid rock
I don't understand how that works.
joe rogan
That's so insane.
kid rock
But I've never heard it- How is that sustainable?
I've never heard it explained.
I've heard politicians bitch about it and our debt and this, that, and the other.
I'm like, I don't get it.
Why does it keep going up if we can't afford it?
My conclusion is we can clearly fucking afford it.
We'll just print some more fucking money or whatever.
I don't get it.
Have you ever heard that explained?
joe rogan
No.
I never realized it was that bad until watching that clock.
There's something about knowing the number but seeing the number move in real time that's just terrifying.
jamie vernon
I don't understand how this makes sense.
joe rogan
Okay, many people believe that much of U.S. national debt is owed to foreign countries like China and Japan, but the truth is that most of it is owed to Social Security and pension funds right here in the U.S. This means that U.S. citizens own most of the national debt.
It's a fucking scam!
It's a giant Ponzi scheme!
kid rock
It's a Ponzi scheme!
joe rogan
It's a Ponzi scheme!
unidentified
I just went around...
kid rock
Yeah, we need that $100,000.
We're going to pay off the debt.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
kid rock
Crazy.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
We owe it to ourselves?
kid rock
We sound like Debbie Downer and Negative Nancy over here.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are we doing?
We're punching ourselves.
We keep going to the hospital.
kid rock
Let's talk about fun shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's not, you know, just something that just comes up.
If you're having a conversation about...
Why the world is crazy.
And you can't find a single example of it not being crazy.
kid rock
Politics never came up years ago.
Do you ever remember that?
joe rogan
No.
kid rock
I remember if it came up, it was like who you're voting for.
Be like, none of your fucking business.
joe rogan
Yeah, like in the 80s and the 90s?
Who the fuck talked about politics?
kid rock
Meanwhile, I'm looking in the mirror with a fucking MAGA hat on and a Trump flag.
I'm the biggest fucking provocateur and offender of this.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're also a guy who's like fed up.
You know, you're fed up with...
There's a narrative that the world got fed.
kid rock
Yeah, I just love my country too much.
joe rogan
But it's a stupid narrative.
You know, it's...
kid rock
Which one?
joe rogan
Well, the narrative...
First of all, the narrative that right and left are really that separate from each other.
Most people care about the same things.
kid rock
All my left-wing friends, I got plenty of them.
Look at my fucking band.
You want to talk about DEI? Hmm.
We got fucking gay black lesbians, fucking rednecks, fucking females, fucking men, black, white, fucking...
That wasn't fucking done by like, oh, we need to mix this up.
It was like, we want the best people.
And not only that are best for, you know, whatever they play or whatever their instrument, musical talent is, but also people that we knew could get along and could spend time as a family.
Like, you know, you hear these horror stories about so many bands.
Hate each other.
This, that, and the other.
And like, we've never had that fucking problem.
Sure, we've had disagreements and fuck you and this, that, and the other, but fucking for 25 some years, like, everyone loves each other and gets along.
And fucking politics all different across the fucking board.
I just came to a point where I'm like, look, you gotta vote.
I don't give a fuck who it's for.
I was like, you gotta vote or you're out of the fucking band.
Which is a fucking threat I probably never followed through with, but I'm like, just let them know, like, you just gotta fucking vote.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's the difference between social media and real life.
In real life, you can be friends with people with all sorts of different opinions because if they're good people, you can talk.
You can talk even if you disagree.
kid rock
And you'll find more in common and you don't have in common.
joe rogan
Much more.
Everybody wants basic things.
They want friendship, love, family.
They want to be successful in whatever they're trying to pursue in life and they want to be safe.
Everybody wants that.
Those are the primary things we all agree on.
It's the most important things that all of us want in our life.
Then the other stuff, when it starts getting on the fringes, like trans women competing with biological females, now you're out there in crazy land and that's getting the majority of the attention.
But that's not the majority of our fucking problems.
The majority of our problems, we all kind of agree on keeping things safe and educating kids.
kid rock
We disagree on the paths to get there.
To those things, and that's great.
That's what makes America great, is thinking differently.
joe rogan
But instead of thinking so much about the things that we disagree on, which I think are insane, and how many people have been incited by bullshit stories in the media, and it's changed your narrative on all the people running for president, whether it's gaslighting you about Biden or gaslighting you about Trump.
They're just bullshitting, trying to get whatever narrative they want out there, and they don't really give a fuck if it's the truth.
kid rock
Well, and not only that, the truth can be spun so many different ways.
Facts and numbers can be spun so many different ways.
Where it's like you teeter that line, well it's not really a lie, but it's not the whole truth.
joe rogan
What's really wild is that the people behind Biden If he wasn't fucking up as much as he is, if they could just kind of keep him out of the limelight for a while, they're willing to run him again.
kid rock
Could they keep him out of the limelight any more than they do, though?
joe rogan
What they're saying is they're running the country without the president.
Right?
That's essentially what they're saying.
kid rock
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And that's what that report says.
That report says he's not there, okay?
So if he's not there, then you know he's not really running things.
And if he's not really running things, that means the people that are running things are now not the president.
Insanity.
kid rock
Insanity.
joe rogan
And they'd like to keep it that way.
Well, that seems fucking nuts.
That is not what we signed up for.
We didn't sign up for these unelected people that are working under the administration taking care of everything.
We did not sign up for that.
kid rock
It's hilarious to me that a lot of the extreme leftist people, you know, they have this thing where like, you know...
Older white men are the fucking devil.
They just are.
And so what do they do?
unidentified
Elect an older white man who's a fucking Catholic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
This is the most diverse.
joe rogan
That was the thing that the White House press secretary lady was going on about how diverse the cabinet is.
kid rock
Jean-Claude Pierre.
joe rogan
And that one dude gets caught butt-fucking in one of the Senate rooms.
kid rock
Oh, God.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You see that?
kid rock
What the fuck?
joe rogan
And then there's another person who's like a trans influencer, pulled her tits out on the lawn, took photos, pulled her tits out of the White House lawn.
kid rock
And it's almost like we gotta compete on the right.
It's like, hey, hey, we got George Santos.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
kid rock
Fucking weirdos, man.
joe rogan
That dude's a hoot.
kid rock
Fucking cuckoo.
joe rogan
He's fun.
He's fun to listen to.
He's fun in those interviews, man.
He goes off.
He's sassy.
kid rock
As long as he doesn't have access to your finances?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It seems like he might be an H-U-S-T-L-E-R hustler.
kid rock
I thought that one the other day because I'm always trying to do comparisons to Trump and Biden for people that, you know, they know my friendship, my love for Trump, his politics, everything.
And, you know, I don't like the way he talks and he speaks.
I'm like, okay, look, you need an emergency medical procedure.
You're in Los Angeles and you have to get to Santa Barbara.
The only people that can drive you there that are available are Trump and Biden.
Fucking pick one.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's good.
Yeah, but he shouldn't be driving anywhere.
There's no way Biden should be driving.
That's not fair.
kid rock
He's having trouble walking.
joe rogan
He can't do anything.
They don't really want him as president.
They just want him to get them into power again.
That's what it is.
It's people running the show behind the scenes.
I mean, Kareem Jean-Pierre, how do you say her name?
kid rock
I don't know.
joe rogan
She got busted using his account to tweet.
kid rock
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
joe rogan
Did you see that?
kid rock
What happened?
joe rogan
She got busted using his account to tweet.
I see that she fucked up forgot to change accounts So she tweets as the president like you gotta see this Hi, you know people fuck up make mistakes.
I know but it's just fun to see the wiring under the board Yeah, it's fun to see how the sausage is made like this isn't this is not really the president wizard It's literally weekend at Bernie's this should be impersonation Look at this.
Investing in America means investing in all, all caps, of America.
When I ran for president, I made a promise that I would leave no part of the country behind.
unidentified
She put it out under her account.
joe rogan
Bro, when they say things like that and they tweet, when presidents like Biden tweet, it's like trying to get wisdom from a fortune cookie.
It's like they're the dumbest little quotes.
Like, who read that and is like, yeah, he did.
And he's doing a great job.
kid rock
I bet fucking Reagan would have been good at it.
joe rogan
I think most of the people that are supporting Biden online are bots.
I think there's a lot of people that are genuine Democrats and are supporting Biden, don't get me wrong.
Those bots are a problem.
But some of the nuttiest pro-Biden stuff, despite, like, no matter what happens, no matter what kind of gaffe he makes, where it's so embarrassing, and if it was your dad, you would want him like, get dad, get dad, we gotta get him off the stage.
They'd be like, dad, you can't do this, dad.
Dad, dad, it's over.
We gotta get you to a home, we gotta get you some care.
kid rock
So I heard from a very good source.
I can't confirm, but it was a very good source.
That when Biden met the Pope, he shit his pants.
Did you hear that one?
joe rogan
I hope he did.
That's amazing.
I mean, I don't hope he did.
But if he did, it's a funny story.
kid rock
This is a very good source.
joe rogan
Damn.
It's not fair.
It's not fair to do that to an old guy.
But it just shows you the mechanism behind the scenes that keeps the country running.
It's a bunch of people working for the president, and now they're essentially pulling all the strings.
It's kind of wild.
And those people definitely don't want to see Trump get into power because then they lose everything.
kid rock
Well, it's like the last election.
A lot of this stuff seems like it was done semi-behind the curtain.
And now it seems they've come to a point where they're like, we don't give a fuck.
We're coming right after this guy.
We're gonna fine him 355 fucking million dollars for where there was no one that got hurt in a fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's no victims.
kid rock
It's fucking insanity.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what the insane part about that is.
Elon actually posted about that.
Like, where's the money going?
Where's the money going if there's no victims?
If he didn't owe anybody any money, where's that money going?
Because there's no one person that's a claimant, right?
kid rock
I hope he drops it off in fucking pennies right at Leticia James' front door and that fucking stupid judge.
joe rogan
I'm just fascinated by watching it all play out.
kid rock
It's like they're doing it right in front of your face.
joe rogan
Right in front of your face.
Like a Banana Republic style prosecuting of your political opponents.
Framing them in the worst way possible.
Getting judges.
We tried to figure this out, and we tried to be as reasonable as possible.
Let's figure out how anybody could ever value Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.
kid rock
Unbelievable.
Well, you go to Google right now, look at blank property and Palm Beach.
A couple acres will come up for $100 million on the water.
He's got property 18 acres on the water and the intercoastal.
joe rogan
Just the land alone is insanely, insanely valuable.
And then there's a palace on it.
For you to tell me that's only worth $18 million.
I'd buy three of those.
kid rock
There's vacant land on Zillow.
Go to Zillow.
I would sell them highest to lowest price.
joe rogan
Bro.
kid rock
Something will come up for $100 million, it's two acres.
joe rogan
I'm not even a real estate investor, but if I found that for sale for $18 million, I'd snatch that shit up and turn it right around.
kid rock
Right.
joe rogan
You're crazy.
That's so biased to say that's $18 million, no matter what metric you're using.
kid rock
That's insane.
It's been pretty much every day, every week, since this guy came down the escalator and announced he was running for president.
It's been nonstop, and I can confirm that because I got on board pretty early before he got the nomination publicly.
And I've had shit thrown at me at my level.
Just constantly nonstop.
This guy's took it every fucking day.
That's why we call him Teflon Don.
joe rogan
He is, in an odd way, the only president that didn't age.
They all rapidly age.
kid rock
Dude, I golf with that fucker all the time, man.
Fucking unbelievable.
That guy doesn't miss a fairway.
Hits it 250 yards right down the freaking middle.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
kid rock
It's incredible.
joe rogan
And that's his only form of exercise too, right?
kid rock
He's so smart.
When he's talking numbers and different things in his memory, like everything, you're just like, man, it's mind boggling.
joe rogan
Really?
kid rock
He's that smart.
Really is.
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Has there ever been a turnaround like that before where like so many people love the guy for his bombastic personality and then he becomes president and then they all hate him?
You know when it all started?
kid rock
Well, see, the media would have you think that everyone hates him.
joe rogan
No, no.
Most people love him.
The reality is when you go to the UFC, I said when you, Tucker Carlson, him and Dana White walked in, it was like the Republican Avengers.
unidentified
That's funny.
joe rogan
It was the most insane reaction.
It was like, they have a super team.
kid rock
Where was that one at?
joe rogan
Well, I've seen you guys walking together multiple times.
New York, for sure.
Miami.
Miami was a big one.
kid rock
But they were all nuts.
joe rogan
Yes.
New York was bananas.
kid rock
Yes.
joe rogan
Bananas.
kid rock
New York City.
joe rogan
New York City.
kid rock
And that is a very diverse crowd, the UFC. Oh, yeah, man.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
The UFC is the most diverse crowd.
kid rock
Look at Tucker smiling.
joe rogan
The UFC is filled with people from all walks of life.
There's a...
Giant lesbian fan population of the UFC. I got a huge lesbian fan base.
Do you really?
kid rock
Yeah, because I had a couple of lesbians in my band.
We always joke, like back in the day, like the early days, like always be these fucking hot chicks in the front row showing their titties and shit, you know, just cool rock and roll shit.
And like, so I started, I started, I got a great friend in Toledo, Ohio, Dan McGurk.
And You know, he's got some issues.
And what do you call it?
Down syndrome or whatever.
And so he's posted a lot of things publicly.
You know, I kind of stopped doing Make-A-Wish and I kind of took him for life.
You know, he's my friend and I'm going to be with this kid forever.
Whether we go to a Pistons game or, you know, he comes to all the shows, anything like that.
But as a result of that and then having two lesbians in the band...
Like, me and my guitar player a couple years ago, we were sitting there jamming on stage, and we're like, boy, man, shit's changed.
And it's like three, four kids with Down syndrome in the front and like four lesbians like hanging out.
I'm like, wow.
The times they are changing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They are, right?
You know, one of my favorite songs of yours that I play in my Green Room playlist is Run Off to L.A. Oh, shit.
Love that song.
kid rock
That's a deep cut.
joe rogan
That's a fucking great song, dude.
That is a deep cut, but that's a great song.
kid rock
One of those breakup songs.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also like...
There's so many guys that get got, you know?
To have a get the fuck out of here song, you know?
kid rock
Don't be fucking with them Hollywood hoes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro.
There's some predators.
kid rock
Oh, man.
Learned my lesson.
joe rogan
I used to watch them move in on dudes at the Sky Bar.
Remember the Sky Bar?
kid rock
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
We would call them the Coyotes.
Because you could see these, like, really aggressive, hot Hollywood crazy ladies who would move in on these rich guys.
And I remember I was...
I was watching this bald, chubby guy getting seduced by this girl.
And then she goes, do you like coke?
And he's like, yeah, I like coke.
Yeah, okay.
And then I'm like, oh, she's got you.
kid rock
She's got you, buddy.
joe rogan
She's going to be moving in soon.
kid rock
She's going to be moving out your shit.
joe rogan
She's going to move in soon.
You're going to marry her.
Then she got you.
kid rock
Done.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like gold digging is a real business model.
Just like those Nigerian princes.
Gold digging is an interpersonal way of...
Where crazy people can latch onto people's lives.
It's fascinating to watch.
kid rock
No better place to do it than Hollywood, California.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Because so many of these guys are like executives.
Back in the day, at least.
And they were killing it back then.
TV executives are out partying at the Monchon.
And the coyotes just move in.
I knew a bunch of dudes who lost a bunch of money.
kid rock
My theory on Los Angeles or Hollywood is...
You get all these beautiful girls that migrate there, they want to make it at some level, want to do something.
So wherever, it doesn't matter where it is on earth, it doesn't have to be Hollywood, wherever there's a bunch of hot chicks, whether it's the local disco club in your town, wherever, there's a bunch of fucking greaseballs, a bunch of fucking kooks.
If there's a conglomerate of hot chicks hanging out in a concentrated area, It's a bunch of fucking weirdo dudes.
Just a bunch of fucking creeps.
That's five fucking dive bars.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So it's just being a proximity to hot chicks.
kid rock
Yeah, it attracts every D-bag on earth.
joe rogan
That's probably true.
Yeah, if they know that hot chicks are definitely going to be there.
kid rock
You don't ever remember going to popular clubs, different places, and just, you know, wow, there's a ton of hot chicks in there.
And you look around like, wow, there's a bunch of D-bags in here too.
joe rogan
I remember thinking of going, like when I was a kid and I first started going to clubs, like with my friends, go to a dance club or whatever, just being an idiot, like wearing Cavaricis and looking stupid, just trying to meet girls.
And all I could think of is like, this is like the least productive way ever to meet somebody.
Like I've never met anybody at one of these places.
It's always just me and my friends standing around, looking stupid.
Trying to figure out how to meet girls.
kid rock
I didn't either until I fucking had a hit record.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
I look like the same dirtball I look like now my whole life and like fucking couple hit records.
Well, that was fucking Brad Pitt.
joe rogan
You look hot.
kid rock
Fucking God.
That sexy motherfucker.
joe rogan
Talent is the great equalizer.
It really is.
Talent is the great equalizer.
If you have talent, you could bat way above your head.
kid rock
Confirmed.
joe rogan
It's everywhere.
You see it all throughout Hollywood.
It's interesting.
It's interesting.
It's interesting how that stuff works.
kid rock
It's never gonna change.
joe rogan
No, it's never gonna change.
It's just...
You're always gonna have...
The whole thing about Hollywood, too, is that you have to be chosen.
Like, most of the people that are out there are out there to be chosen for something.
They're out to be chosen to get a record deal, or chosen to be on a sitcom, or chosen to be in a movie, or chosen to be on a show.
You have to be picked, so you're always trying to figure out how to be more...
How to fit in more.
kid rock
But the more true talent, like raw dog talent you have, or whatever it is, like...
It starts to negate some of that stuff.
You still have to kiss the ring a little bit.
I always called it...
I always said, you know, when it came to radio, it was a whole fucking game to play to that shit.
I only had a couple radio hits.
I always say I was willing to tickle some balls, but I would not insert penis in mouth.
That's kind of my...
joe rogan
Do you think that's why...
Because you had so many hit songs.
But they weren't necessarily radio hits, is that what you're saying?
kid rock
Yeah.
Well, MTV was huge for me.
So that was even a better outlet than radio, but I've never had number one song in America.
I was never willing to do the fucking shit to get it there.
All over the world where I didn't have to do anything, yeah.
We're number one in seven countries or something.
But yeah, my feeling was always like, okay, we have to at some level when we're getting this big chance, you know, after I'd been knocked down this, that, and the other, and finally got my big record deal in like 1997. I was like, okay, this is do or die.
I have to play a little bit of this game.
It was one of my most successful record because that's kind of what I did.
And it worked.
And then after that, my philosophy was like, you know, I came out with Picture and they're like, this is going to kill your career.
You put on a fucking country song.
joe rogan
That's also on my Spotify.
kid rock
They literally told me it's going to kill my fucking career.
Oh, that's so crazy.
joe rogan
That's a great song, man.
kid rock
Yeah, thank you.
My mindset at that point was, I want to try to make classic records.
Not hits.
You know, something that'll stick around.
And it's hard to nail it.
You know, I probably made a thousand songs.
There's arguably, you know, a handful of fucking great ones in there.
You know, it's like being a photographer.
You take a thousand pictures, you hope you get five good ones.
joe rogan
Dude, you got a lot of bangers.
But I love picture.
Cheryl Crow.
That voice.
kid rock
She can sing.
joe rogan
God damn.
kid rock
She can say.
joe rogan
There's some emotion in that voice.
kid rock
Very talented.
Our politics don't line up so well these days.
joe rogan
I would imagine not.
Are you still friendly?
kid rock
We're still friendly.
We don't talk as much.
Doesn't that suck?
Yeah, we've...
unidentified
It sucks.
kid rock
We sat down recently.
We were talking about gun control.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
And I'm like, Cheryl, I hear...
She's like, no one in this town will...
You know, country artists will talk to me about this.
And I'm like, yeah, if you want gun control, you should move back to L.A. or New York City.
It's very prevalent there.
That's just not kind of the Tennessee way of life.
I was like...
And the scary thing about it is like...
I could say like, okay, common sense gun law, if we actually had one to keep guns out of mentally disturbed people, I could take a serious look at that.
And I know the NRA is going to be all over for that.
I don't fucking care.
I can honestly take a serious look at that.
But the problem that I see in it is as soon as this common sense gun law is passed, written up by attorneys and people in politics that none of us can really understand, they throw in some mumbo jumbo.
The first thing that's going to happen is...
Did you see that crazy shit Kid Rock was saying?
Blackout drunk in his honky-tonk?
He's not mentally stable when you take his guns away.
You know what I mean?
It's like, where does that line get crossed back and forth, one side or the other?
That's the problem with the common sense law.
It's like, everybody doesn't have fucking common sense.
joe rogan
That's a very good point.
It's also a very good point that you can get experts to lie.
We saw that during COVID. Yep.
You can get experts to lie.
And if you have mental health experts that decide that you're unstable, For a political reason.
For any reason.
kid rock
I could go out and find 10 people, a conglomerate of 10 people that hate Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Yeah, easy.
kid rock
And get them to all...
joe rogan
You could say I'm mentally unstable, for sure.
kid rock
Get the same shit together.
joe rogan
I probably admitted to being mentally unstable in some way.
But it's not...
You can't let people define that.
Because...
You're going to get people that are just using it to take away your rights.
And then once they have that, now they've pushed past a certain line, they're going to push even further.
It might get to a point where you're not allowed to have knives anymore.
It might get to a point where you can't have a sword in your house.
kid rock
What was their argument for years?
Why would you need an AR-15 with a 30 round clip, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, 30 people breaking into your house.
kid rock
One word answer.
Israel.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's a great, great answer.
You know, that was one of the craziest things I saw somebody tweet about Ukraine.
All you people with AR-15s you should be donating them to Ukraine.
Like, do you not see what the fuck you're saying?
We know that this is a real possibility with human beings, that they can invade places and shoot people up.
That's a real thing.
You want us to be unprepared?
Why?
kid rock
How do we protect our politicians so well and our courthouses and everything else?
We can't do this for our schools?
joe rogan
These anti-gun politicians are being protected by people with guns.
Brave people with guns.
kid rock
And they live behind gates and walls.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And they're protected.
And they're getting away with pushing this nutty agenda.
And what you need is better law enforcement.
Better trained, more law enforcement.
But the problem is...
kid rock
Who wants to be a fucking cop these days?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
They've made that a popular sport.
joe rogan
Yeah, they fucked that up hard.
unidentified
Gosh.
joe rogan
It'll be a long time before that recovery.
kid rock
I'm not saying every cop's good.
There's good and bad in everything, as we all know, that have a smidge of common sense.
Everything.
You're going to get bad actors in anything, anything, anything.
joe rogan
Anything in life.
kid rock
But overall...
When your kid can't breathe and you call 911 and that cop shows up.
joe rogan
Yes.
Or someone's holding someone hostage.
Or you need someone rescued.
Or there's a real problem.
Someone's shooting up a store.
kid rock
Shooting up a school and you see those cops in Nashville go running in there that were trained in the military.
joe rogan
Exactly.
kid rock
Not knowing what they're going to face.
joe rogan
God bless them.
Exactly.
And those are the kind of people that you should fucking praise.
That's most cops.
kid rock
And it's not the private schools.
My granddaughter goes to a private school.
They have security there.
They're taking precautions.
What about the people that can't afford private school, which is the majority of this country?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You know, what are we doing for them?
Politicians all talk about it like...
joe rogan
Well, there's also certain ideological aspects of shooters that they don't talk about.
Like, they didn't want to release that trans shooter's manifesto.
Because it's like this really crazy, anti-white, anti, like...
It was a weird manifesto.
kid rock
The same way just in Kansas City.
They didn't want to say who the shooters were.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
And what's her name was on Bill Maher the other night, Ann Coulter.
She's like, I can guarantee it wasn't two white guys.
joe rogan
Because they would have known.
kid rock
They would have had them all over the news.
And unfortunately, that's fucking true.
joe rogan
It's 100% true.
And anybody that denies it, it doesn't matter if you're right or left, you know that's a fact.
This is not...
kid rock
And it's fucked up.
We need to catch these shooters.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
We need to catch these bad actors.
You need to give me the ultimate description of them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You know?
He had a shaved head.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
Oh, that's it.
kid rock
40s to 50s wearing a gray sweatshirt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You know what I mean?
Looked like he was high.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't just say two men.
kid rock
No.
Trying to keep a PC politically fucking correct.
joe rogan
Show the fucking pictures.
How quickly did they have the pictures?
How quickly did they know?
kid rock
Probably within an hour.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a weird time, man.
It's like people are scared of reporting the truth because they're going to be called racist.
It's so strange.
And you're transphobic if you're talking about the fact that these shooters are trans.
Like, how many of them in a row?
How many of them in a row?
kid rock
I'm checking all the boxes for the extreme left wing.
joe rogan
Right?
It's nuts.
kid rock
I'm a racist fucking Nazi.
You fucking laugh when you hear half this shit.
joe rogan
I know.
It's nuts, man.
Anybody that opposes them in any way, shape, or form is far right.
kid rock
But you think about it, it actually is Nazi shit.
What is it, Goebbels or Goebbels or whatever?
You know, tell a lie a thousand times, it becomes the truth.
joe rogan
It's also, you should be vehemently opposed to this, no matter what your political ideology is.
You should be vehemently opposed to gaslighting from anybody.
That your side should win because they have the best argument.
They shouldn't win because they're full of shit.
That's dangerous.
It's dangerous to everybody.
And the fact that we're all just trying to sort this out in real time as a country, and so many people are skeptical of the news now, so you don't know where the fuck to turn for the truth.
kid rock
Well, they're skeptical of the news.
A lot of people are skeptical of, you know, the CIA and FBI, like, institutions that have been there to protect us and serve us for years, and our judges and prosecutors.
And we're like...
Everyone's being exposed.
At least say what you are.
That's why I don't...
I don't care, you know, that people know who I am and where I stand because I know where other people stand around me.
And it's the oldest cliche, you know who your friends are.
I know who my friends and my family are.
The world that I have, I'm so blessed to have.
And I don't need to try to play both sides of the fence to, you know, be in Hollywood's good graces.
As David Spade said, he's like, dude, you're like Hollywood's fucking kryptonite.
joe rogan
But good for you, man.
Good for you for being yourself.
The world needs more people just being themselves.
You're a good dude, man.
kid rock
I don't nail it every time.
I've said things out of line that in a different day and age I would probably have apologized for, but in this day and age, no fucking way.
joe rogan
You're a good dude, man.
You really are.
You really are.
You've always been a good dude.
You're always cool to be around and you're cool to everybody.
You're always friendly to everybody.
When I went to your house, I brought some friends.
You're just cool to everybody, man.
That's what really matters in life.
This idea that you're supposed to be hated because you have a different political opinion than someone else is so dumb.
It's so dumb.
Can we just look at who the people are?
Can we look at who the people are and let's debate which is the right idea in terms of what to do with the economy or what to do with...
The environment, or what to do with all these things.
That should be what we're all concerned about.
kid rock
Absolutely.
joe rogan
To have everything be so fucking, these people are evil, and these people are the future, and this is the death of democracy if you go that way, and it's a, shut the fuck up.
You people are freaking everybody out.
kid rock
Exactly.
joe rogan
You people are freaking everybody out, and I don't think you're right.
And you weren't right when he was in office.
What happened?
Where was the end of the world?
The guy was in office for four years.
Where was the wars?
Oh, we didn't start any new wars.
kid rock
Exactly.
joe rogan
The whole thing is nuts, man.
During the Biden administration, the disastrous pullout of Afghanistan, you realize that all the shit that he wouldn't have done, he wouldn't have done it that way.
He would have asked those guys, he would have asked the generals, like, how to do this.
kid rock
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And do it the right way.
kid rock
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah, they should get out of there, but they're probably going to have to maintain some force there, otherwise the Taliban's going to take over, like they did.
kid rock
Take him a month.
joe rogan
Fucking duh.
And then you left all the tanks because it's too expensive to get him out of there?
I saw Trump talking about that, like how insane that was.
That he left behind all the military equipment.
kid rock
It's billions of dollars.
Why are we sending money to countries that hate us?
joe rogan
How could you ever imagine a scenario where it makes sense to leave a hostile military group like the Taliban tanks?
What?
kid rock
Insanity.
joe rogan
And it's almost like you know we're going to have to go back and you'd like them to be a little more well armed this time.
So then we could have a real war war.
Like a bigger war war.
Like a war war with two armies.
So then if we lose some people, then you can really justify spending much more money.
To buy, like, better shit!
To fuck those people up with our old shit, our old shit.
kid rock
Well, unfortunately, some of that might come back to haunt us here, and I hate to put that out in the universe, but it's, you know, with this border being open, we know there's bad actors here.
We know it's not if.
They would have to.
joe rogan
You would have to do that, if you could.
I mean, if ISIS is real, we know it is, if they're doing their job, they would sneak in.
kid rock
They already have.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't you sneak in?
kid rock
They're already here.
They're already here, unfortunately.
joe rogan
Let's put on the tinfoil hats.
Why are they allowing the border to be open like this?
kid rock
It's insanity.
I don't know.
To get votes for the Democratic Party?
I have no idea.
I can't answer that question.
It seems insane to me.
We want great migrants to come here.
Yes, it's the foundation of our country.
I know so many good ones that fucking work hard, that we're working on my house to build it, to do different things here and there.
Friends.
You know what I mean?
We need workers like this.
We just want them to come through legally.
I know I sound like a broken record.
joe rogan
It should be a better vetting process that allows people to come in legally.
But also, you have to vet people.
You can't just let terrorists through.
If you really care about security.
So this is my question.
And this is where I get, when I get really conspiratorial, when the weed kicks in, when you get real conspiratorial, I start thinking about all these things that are happening.
The decline of California.
The fucking tents in the streets.
The fact that they know they can clean it up, but they choose not to.
They cleaned it up when G.G.Pain came to San Francisco.
You saw that, right?
unidentified
I saw that.
joe rogan
So, who would be...
Why would anybody want it to continue in the same direction that's continuing?
Because it seems to be deteriorating.
It doesn't seem to be improving.
Who, other than someone, who would want America to fail?
kid rock
Well, the other question is like, okay, Trump handled it.
To the best of his ability with the tools he had in his toolbox.
Biden now has that same toolbox.
And he keeps saying, well, Congress won't give me the money.
They won't pass.
And why the fuck is that going on, too?
They put three things in one bill.
unidentified
They put Ukraine in the border wall.
kid rock
Border wall and Israel.
Aid to Israel.
They put those three.
Why the fuck are these not separate bills to vote on?
Because they're all trying to throw their fucking bullshit in there.
And that's both sides do that.
joe rogan
Yeah, they both do that.
kid rock
They both should cut that crap out.
It's like, we're going to vote on the fucking border wall, have it be the fucking border wall, and that's it.
Don't fucking try to piggyback Ukraine and Israel into there.
Those should be separate bills on their own.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, how much are they required to know about the bills they're signing?
Because some of those bills are enormous.
kid rock
Attorneys have fucked this country up beyond belief.
joe rogan
Some of those bills, unless you spent a long time going through them and also referred to them...
kid rock
If you're even educated enough to decipher the lingo, the wording, the definitions...
You don't think a lawyer can spin something around?
joe rogan
100%.
That's what I was saying.
I was going to say, and consult with people that are experts in whatever the fuck they're talking about.
kid rock
They should be written two-page bills, two-to-five-to-ten-page bills in layman's terms that anybody with a high school degree can fucking decipher.
Period.
Why don't they make that a law?
So we can all read them and understand them.
joe rogan
The fact that they sandwich all kinds of shit inside bills is just nuts.
That should be illegal.
kid rock
Completely.
joe rogan
You're sneaking stuff in there that allows for mass surveillance.
kid rock
And Trump pulled their pants down on that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Trump did that.
And make no mistake, there's plenty of fucking the Republican establishment that hate him too.
He's fighting them as well.
Because he's like, you guys are full of shit over here too.
He's telling so many people up there in D.C., you're full of fucking shit.
He goes, I'm going to run this like a fucking business.
And I'm going to win.
He likes to win.
He loves to win so much that I want him fighting for this country because he wants to fucking win.
I want him on my team.
Period.
joe rogan
I like it.
I like your passion for this, Kid Rock.
This Mitch McConnell guy is the most amazing one.
He won't step down.
unidentified
Once again!
joe rogan
He keeps freezing up.
He froze up again.
kid rock
Yeah!
joe rogan
This guy's locked up like three times.
kid rock
I don't get it.
joe rogan
Or he just locks up.
Like, if he was doing any other job, they would stop.
They would stop him.
They'd say, you're going to have to retire.
You can't.
You just lock up.
kid rock
If I lost my voice or some ability to do what I... Well, if he just locked up, we couldn't talk to you.
Right.
joe rogan
Forget about losing your voice.
kid rock
What if you did it?
Would you still come on here?
joe rogan
I'm Joe Rogan!
kid rock
I'm still trying to...
No, you'd be like, you know what, I had a good run.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to stop.
Stop doing that.
Whenever they get him in front of the podium, the dude just locks up.
kid rock
I just feel like sometimes we're having like the dumbest conversation because it's like we're repeating a lot of things and it's all to me boils down to common sense.
joe rogan
You know what I wonder about Mitch McConnell too though?
He's probably guilty of some serious shit.
I wonder if like he's doing the Vincent de Chin gigante thing.
kid rock
What's that?
joe rogan
Vincent de Chin was this mob leader that would pretend he was crazy.
So he'd walk around with like a bathrobe and slippers and he'd shuffle around the street like a crazy person.
And his dons would meet him or his...
kid rock
The old rope-a-dope.
joe rogan
Exactly.
So all of his bosses would, you know, all the guys under him would meet him and they would go walking.
And so what the FBI did was they put these...
Recording devices and all the hubcaps of all the cars on the street They parked their own cars there and so they recorded them as he was walking and then they knew he wasn't actually crazy because he's really running the mob But he did it by pretend so master of deceit if they're coming after Vince or what's his name?
What the fuck's his name?
Oh McConnell yeah McConnell if he's uh pretending to be locking up that'd be a good move like if you think the shit's coming down you think he's that good of an actor I All I have to do is this.
I could do that.
I could fake lock up.
kid rock
You could do a straight face.
joe rogan
Oh, good.
kid rock
In front of a bunch of cameras.
joe rogan
I'd lock up.
If I knew I was going to go to jail, it was...
kid rock
If I locked up like that and sat there like that for a minute, I would make sure I had, like, a huge fart on deck.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
Just stand there.
Everyone's like, oh, no, oh, no.
unidentified
You're like...
kid rock
You're never beating fart jokes.
joe rogan
No.
Imagine someone doing that as president.
Hold up.
Like Joey Diaz style.
Grabbing the mic.
Joey Diaz has done that on stage.
He grabs a mic and puts it in his ass and farts.
You cramped up?
Oh no.
On your leg?
kid rock
How much water have I drank?
joe rogan
Do you take electrolytes?
kid rock
I do.
I drink the fucking hydrogen water.
joe rogan
Really?
kid rock
You do everything?
I do all that shit.
joe rogan
Somebody told me once...
kid rock
Red light, saunas, cold tubs, fucking intermittent fast, fucking cardio.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
kid rock
Fucking Kaiser Gym equipment, circuit train.
unidentified
Let's go.
joe rogan
Let's go.
Somebody told me once that if you get a cramp in your leg, you should actually pinch down on your tongue and it's a pressure point.
kid rock
Oh shit, if it comes back...
joe rogan
Yeah, I've tried it.
I think it might work.
I'm not sure though.
It might just be in my head.
You know?
The worst is foot cramps.
When your foot locks up.
kid rock
They say to eat potassium, too.
joe rogan
Eat it?
kid rock
They say potassium, like grab a banana or something like that.
joe rogan
I very rarely get cramps, because I drink a lot of electrolytes now.
kid rock
I do, too.
I mean, I've drank four or five cups of water.
joe rogan
I didn't used to do it at all.
I never drank them.
For years.
And years and years, I just worked out and drank water.
And then, when I started drinking electrolytes, I was like, oh my god, this is such a game changer.
kid rock
Let me ask you a health question.
How do you get...
I've been meaning to hit Dane on this.
How do you get protein, the best protein, without the calories?
joe rogan
Why are you scared of calories?
kid rock
Just because I don't want to bulk up.
I just want to stay thin.
joe rogan
Well, a high-protein diet is probably one of the best ways to stay thin.
kid rock
I eat a lot of protein.
I just don't eat it after I work out right away.
I haven't been.
joe rogan
Well, you don't have to.
kid rock
Because I don't eat until 1, then I stop at 6 or 7 o'clock.
joe rogan
I mean, you're not a fucking professional athlete.
You don't have to eat right after you work out.
It's the best way to get optimal performance is to, you know, get some glucose into your muscles.
Most people think carbohydrates after workouts are really good.
But if you're on, like, a high-protein diet...
One of the things that happens if you're on a carnivore diet, specifically, you don't crave as much food.
You don't eat as much.
kid rock
I don't eat as much just from doing the intermittent fasting.
I kind of do it on one of the weekends or when I go out to dinner periodically.
I do it so I can do that.
I eat a lot of raw vegetables, the right fruit, and then a lot of salmon, chicken, steak.
joe rogan
You should be careful with some raw vegetables.
unidentified
Really?
kid rock
I eat a ton of raw vegetables.
joe rogan
You get oxalates.
The thing about raw vegetables, especially when you blend them up in smoothies and shit...
kid rock
No, no, I eat them raw.
I use tzatziki.
A little tzatziki if I want some flavor.
joe rogan
I mean, you're probably not eating enough that it's going to be a real problem, but for people that get blended smoothies of raw vegetables, especially raw leafy greens, they say that when you cook them, it actually is more bioavailable and it gets rid of the oxalates.
You could get it out of the vegetable.
But I know people that have drank a lot of smoothies, like green smoothies, and developed kidney stones and shit.
It becomes a bit of an issue for some folks.
I don't know why.
It might be a genetic thing.
kid rock
I do smoothies.
It's protein.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
kid rock
Yeah.
The reno acid's protein.
joe rogan
I'm addicted to Jocko's proteins.
Jocko's got this stuff called Molk.
It's fucking delicious.
It's so good.
I'm addicted to it.
I just keep drinking them.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Even when I don't need it, I drink it.
But you don't need to worry about what's high calories.
The real high calorie things are the things you shouldn't be eating anyway if you're trying to lose weight, like pizza, spaghetti.
kid rock
I like to drink my beer.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a lot of calories.
kid rock
That's usually only one or two nights a week, depending if I'm working or not, but weekends.
That's usually only one good night, but I can drink some fucking beer.
joe rogan
I bet you can drink some fucking beer.
kid rock
I can drink some beer.
And I enjoy that, and I'm not fucking stopping.
joe rogan
Well, then maintain.
kid rock
I do.
I'm maintaining good.
joe rogan
Yeah, but don't worry about calories for food.
The food calories you need.
kid rock
I was just talking about after working out at 30, you're supposed to have protein pretty quick.
joe rogan
You should.
You should have carbohydrates and protein after you work out.
I like to eat some fruit after I work out.
I like to eat fruit before I work out, too.
That's kind of the only time I ever eat fruit.
kid rock
I've been trying to eat the right fruit, blueberries, melons.
joe rogan
Blueberries are great.
Wash them though.
unidentified
I eat a ton of blueberries.
joe rogan
Yep.
Wash the shit out of them.
That's the thing.
You've got to worry about foods.
Like what the fuck is being sprayed on your food?
How good of a job they do at cleaning it up before it got to the grocery store shelves.
kid rock
I'm sure we've got two freezers full of fucking elk and venison.
We've got chickens for our fresh eggs.
We're pretty good about that stuff.
And very fortunate to be able to afford it.
Because we joke, even if we shop at Whole Foods, we nickname it Whole Paycheck.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's brutal.
And it's also like I've had people on like the guy from White Oaks Pastures who explained that whole grass-fed thing and then also that it's a US product even if the cows are grown in another country.
Did you know that?
kid rock
No.
joe rogan
They can grow cattle in another country, kill it in another country, ship it to America, and then if they cut it up and put it on the shelf then it's a product of the USA. Makes no sense.
But it's wild.
So they're labeling it like a product of the USA when it's a cow from another country.
kid rock
That's a whole other conundrum of trying to just fucking see through the bullshit on food labels.
You know how much research you have to do?
And then you fucking start googling this shit.
You don't know what the fuck to believe there.
And the worst thing you do is like, you know, I have a headache.
You start Googling like WebMD headache and it's like, you're dying!
unidentified
You're fucked!
kid rock
You know, it freaks y'all out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fuck.
kid rock
Let me tell you about these fucking shows we're doing.
joe rogan
Tell me about these shows, Kid Rock.
kid rock
So, I'm fucking actually excited about this shit.
Doing a huge schedule this year.
Nine shows.
Which is kind of like my number.
I like to do nine or ten.
But this year, the big one is called Rock the Country.
And it's a two-day festival with me, one night, Jason Aldean, one night, and cast of characters from Miranda Lambert to Hank Jr., Skinner, Bradley Gilbert, Travis Tritt, on down.
And so we're doing these in very small towns like Ocala, Florida and Mobile, Alabama and Gonzales, Louisiana.
Just in these fucking fields.
And this is like...
So I own part of this festival.
And it's this place for fucking people who love music, love freedom, and love fucking America.
Which I'm not sure that they have one of these anywhere.
It's like a...
joe rogan
Two-day festival for the people.
Rock the country.
kid rock
It's like everyone's welcome, but you're probably not going to see a whole lot of blue hair and nose rings there.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
And so I'm super excited about that.
joe rogan
You're essentially doing like...
kid rock
Dude, Ocala, Florida, there's 26,000 tickets sold already.
Ocala, fucking Florida.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
kid rock
And we're going to these towns, you know, and there's...
And we got RV stuff, and, you know, you can camp out of your car and stuff like that, and VIP experiences and all that shit, but...
It really, you know, when they approached me about this, and, you know, having a piece of it in perpetuity, you know, it's made me do shit like this, go out and, like...
It excites me to go out and do things now...
Rather than just go tour and make money, okay?
I've been blessed to be able to do that.
That doesn't excite me, you know?
It always excites me to play, but to do something like this a little outside of the box and create this space, because make no mistake, all the shenanigans and experiences we're going to have here, the people are going to fucking make it.
The people, because you know they're coming red, white, and blue.
They're coming with their bag of shit, this, that, and the other.
Like, it's going to be a fucking shit show.
The greatest shit show on earth.
So I'm looking forward to that.
And then we're doing Kid Rock's Rockin' Rodeo at AT&T Stadium in Dallas.
Yeah.
The night before the PBR World Finals, bull riding.
I've really, in the last several years, gotten into...
Started with rodeos and bull riding.
We played a lot of those through the years.
Calgary Stampede and Cheyenne Frontier Days.
And, you know, of course, the Houston Rodeo.
And I wanted to take rodeo to the next level.
So we've created six teams.
So it's team competition rodeo.
So, like, you know, the ropers are going to be going head-to-head rather than just timing them.
And then I'm going to open the show rather than have, you know, usually it's the rodeo and then you play music.
Right now the way I'm trying to format it is I open with a big number, like kind of an award show type thing.
I'm really going to put some fucking time and effort into it.
And then, you know, we'll do the rodeo, have some music.
For entertainment in between, I've been gunning for this one and I think we found it.
We want to do some entertainment in between, you know, trick riders and, you know, six shooters and stuff like that.
But I think we found two midgets that are going to ride mini bulls.
Fucking mic drop.
joe rogan
You could still do that today.
kid rock
Fucking mic drop.
And then, of course, we're doing Kid Rock's Comedy Jam.
I think it's third year?
Third or fourth year?
joe rogan
Who's on that?
kid rock
I don't know yet.
Brian from Zany's.
I know Chris Porter will be there, my old friend.
Gillis did it the first year.
Donald Rawlings.
We've had some great people.
Eleanor Kerrigan.
I'm a fucking comedy groupie.
If I didn't have shit to do tomorrow, I'd be up at your show, hanging out in the green room and giving comedians handjobs.
I pretty much live at Zaney's in Nashville.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
kid rock
So we do that for charity.
Everything's 100% for charity.
joe rogan
Is that where you met Theo?
kid rock
No, I met Theo a little bit before that, but he popped up the first year, and he came as the big star and did 15, 20 minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah, Theo, he enjoys Nashville.
kid rock
We have a little musical guest play.
I did it one year, and other people.
It's something really fun just because I fucking love comedy.
It's called the American Badass Comedy Jam.
It's during Comedy Week in Nashville.
joe rogan
How many of those have you done?
kid rock
I think this is the third or fourth.
joe rogan
Nice.
kid rock
We've been able to raise some real money for people.
I got buddies that are throwing 10 grand here just because they got it and shit like that.
So we've raised, usually on average, just at the Ryman Theater, a few thousand people.
So we've raised 80 to 100 grand every year.
joe rogan
Nice.
kid rock
Last year we donated the money to the victims of the Covenant School shooting in Nashville and then the guys that lost their lives on those choppers that went down outside of Fort Campbell.
So we try to pick a couple specific things each year and help people out.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
kid rock
It's fucking great.
joe rogan
That's beautiful, man.
That's a really cool thing to do with your time.
I'm glad that that excites you now.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Doing something interesting.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Something where you've got a stake in the game.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You know, where you're really...
You go out and you fucking work it.
You promote it and you tell people what it's about and you're excited about it.
You know, like these rock the country.
And it's a fucking gamble, man.
When you're fucking with Mother Nature, you're doing an outdoor fucking festival.
joe rogan
Especially in Florida.
kid rock
In the middle of fucking nowhere.
And, you know, we're trying to...
One of the smart things...
I've pat myself on the back.
One of the things I came up with was before we announced these and did them, we invited everyone from these small towns or states...
Whether it was their mayors, head of city council, sheriffs, state senators.
We had some of each show up from each state and had them all up to my house in Nashville.
And we broke bread.
And we just talked about how can we put our heads together and make this a great experience for fans.
Because, you know, that's the biggest thing when you're doing these festivals is you have to make sure of.
We have enough bathrooms, enough water, enough things for people to do.
Like, you know, create photo ops, this, that, and the other.
The music's going to be what it is.
You know, we're going to give our all there like we always do.
But...
You know, to be involved in that level, you know, to be able to throw my creative ideas in, and this, that, and the other.
One year we tried to do the General Lee hood slide.
Worst fucking idea I ever had.
Fucking John, this is when we used to do this thing called the fish fry.
John Schneider got him to host it.
I got a new, you know, I have a very nice General Lee with 440 in it.
I got a new hood for it, like an old hood that we painted, because I know the hood's going to get fucked up, right?
So I've got this all planned out because I'm so fucking smart.
Well, the first fucking lady goes to fucking, it was like some money and, you know, judges.
The first fucking lady, she's got a big old girl.
She's got a beer in her hand.
She goes, she fucking trips, bam, had her right in the front quarter panel.
unidentified
Oh my God.
kid rock
They fucked that car up.
I think I had four grand worth of damage to it.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
How was that lady?
Is she okay?
kid rock
She fucking bounced off.
She still had her beer in her hand.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
kid rock
But that's fun, trying different shit like that.
You know, great fun shit.
So I get to have my input on these festivals and really give my two cents and try to do cool shit and things.
You know, just up it and make it this fucking patriotic, fucking freedom-loving music festival, which I just saw a need for it.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of people that didn't feel like anybody was talking to them.
kid rock
Half the country.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Why do you think Yellowstone's so big?
Duck Dynasty.
joe rogan
Exactly.
kid rock
All that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of people that just don't feel like they're being represented in the media because they're not.
kid rock
Or this, it's like, fuck, do you experience this?
I'm like, I get into a fucking program, a series on something.
Like I said, I don't give a fuck if you're gay.
Just be gay.
If you're Jewish, just be Jewish.
Hey, if you're black, just be fucking black.
We don't gotta like clap louder for you.
All right?
Just fucking, but it's like become this fucking Hollywood bullshit where I'm into some fucking program.
All right, second episode.
Here comes two guys kissing or the trans person enters in just for no fucking reason.
Not for the narrative.
If it fits the story, I fucking get it.
They just gotta factor it in.
I'm like, fuck off!
I'm like, fuck off!
Like, fucking...
It's just...
Do you notice this on Saturday Night Live?
This is a perfect example.
And I TVO every week, and, you know, I just love Saturday Night Live, but I'm like, alright, fuck, now it's become unfunny.
There's bands in there I've never fucking heard of that suck.
And it's gotten...
It has its moments where it's great, and this, that, and the other, and you probably know the ones I'm talking about, but nonetheless, I watch it.
And I've noticed this.
It's like, so when they're doing the opening monologue, you know, one of the cast members will be in the crowd or whatever, and everyone will give them some applause.
Watch this.
Every fucking time when the Asian gay dude comes on, people are like, yeah!
I'm like, what the fuck is that?
Why?
Like, why?
Why are we screaming louder?
He's not the best person on the show, clearly.
You know, Mikey Day's fucking great.
You know, there's other people on there that are fucking equally great.
I'm like, why?
Why are people doing this?
Like, you know, just clapping louder.
That's like, we're all just fucking humans, man.
Be who you want.
joe rogan
They want to show they're inclusive.
kid rock
That's what I mean.
It just shows me this fucking millennial generation that like a good chunk of them are just complete fucking pussies.
joe rogan
It's very performative.
You know, virtue signaling is like something that everybody does now.
It's like something that you feel obliged to do.
kid rock
It's like, you're so brave.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
You're so brave.
You're so brave!
God bless you, soldier!
This guy likes dick.
It's not that big of a deal.
joe rogan
It's not that big.
It shouldn't be that big of a deal.
unidentified
No.
kid rock
No one cares.
joe rogan
No.
kid rock
We should clap on who's the funniest and the best one on the show.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Now you got me going on rants.
I haven't even had a drink.
joe rogan
I like a good rant.
You want a drink?
kid rock
No.
joe rogan
Okay.
kid rock
I'll take a beer.
joe rogan
Let's get some beers in here.
Let's get some Bud Lights in here.
jamie vernon
Speaking of that, Shane's hosting SNL this weekend.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
I know I had that confused.
I thought it was not the last week and the weekend before and I'm like, nothing TiVo and I want to see Shane.
joe rogan
Are they showing him workshopping his mama?
jamie vernon
It's a promo they put out for it just a bit ago.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, we can watch it.
kid rock
I'd like to take a look at his wardrobe case, man.
jamie vernon
Sweatpants.
Lots of sweatpants.
kid rock
I fucking love shade, man.
joe rogan
He's the best.
He's out here now.
kid rock
He's funnier than shit.
People out there haven't watched his.
He's on Netflix.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Beautiful Dogs.
kid rock
Dude, your best joke.
I meant to compliment you on it.
Not only that, but all your success.
I've known you.
I don't think people know that we've been in the same circle for 20 years plus easy.
Like, when you were hosting the shows that I would perform at and shit like that.
You know, we've always been friendly just to see you fucking...
Work your ass off all those years through all the TV stuff and have this going and make fucking hundreds of millions of dollars.
Fucking God bless you.
joe rogan
Thanks, brother.
Appreciate it, man.
kid rock
But the best show is one of your own shows when you're like, can you imagine if all of our founding fathers came back to Earth and looked around in the present day and they're like, well, you guys haven't written any new shit?
Fucking great.
joe rogan
Thank you.
They wrote some new shit, some bills.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
It's kind of funny.
joe rogan
But the way that our government is structured, they were fucking genius, huh?
To figure out that there's got to be some checks and balances in place to keep tyranny at bay.
They just didn't know that it was going to be subverted the way it's been.
How could they possibly know that it would get that far?
kid rock
I think people were smarter back then because they had to be.
They were forced to be.
joe rogan
They knew the nature of man, too.
The nature of man is almost always to...
Here we go.
Let's go.
kid rock
Are we really drinking Bud Lights?
joe rogan
Let's go.
kid rock
Watch how much shit I get for this.
joe rogan
Who cares?
kid rock
I don't give a fuck.
Why do you got Bud Lights here, by the way?
joe rogan
Shane.
kid rock
Oh, Shane Gillis?
joe rogan
He's on the podcast all the time.
kid rock
Oh, did I tell you these fucking smartasses?
You know, my buddies now at Anheuser-Busch.
Cheers, sir.
Cheers, brother.
For my birthday, they sent me a fucking hundred cases of Bud Light.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
kid rock
It's fucking hilarious.
Truck rolled up to the fucking house.
I'm like...
My friends have been bringing it over, shoving it in my golf bag since I did the machine gun gate.
They've been fucking with me at everything I go to.
Someone's fucking bud like this, bud like that.
And finally I came to a point where I did my research and like I told you, I don't give a fuck.
You know what the worst part about it was?
These people were like, people losing their jobs.
I was like, no.
People's fucking livelihoods.
I knew people who drove trucks for, you know, big Bud Light trucks and their fucking livelihoods were crushed.
Because now people are fucking with them.
One of the heads of fucking AB said he went to my bar, Kid Rock's big-ass honky-tonk in Nashville.
He's like, dude, I walked through there with a Bud Light shirt.
He's like, three people told me to go fuck myself.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was reading about this one bar owner who had to stop carrying Bud Light because when people would buy it, other people would get aggressive with them.
kid rock
Yeah, and...
joe rogan
That's dumb as fuck.
kid rock
It is.
joe rogan
That's dumb as fuck.
kid rock
And by the way, I'm not into fucking boycotts and cancel culture.
Like, sending someone a message, okay.
Or when they're targeting our children, shit like that.
Like, you know, there's a fine line there.
But ultimately, I'm not fucking into cancel culture and fucking that shit.
I mean, I fucking riled against it since day fucking one.
And I'm like, we sent them a message, we don't even fucking cancel them, all right?
If they go down this path again and they start this, I think they figured out who the...
If you're in business and you have a clear market, you might want to focus on that market.
joe rogan
Yeah, and don't disparage them openly, publicly, like they did.
kid rock
I don't think if there's, like, what would be, like, what's a target audience for gay people, a product?
Lube.
Lube.
That's universal.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
Well, you know, it's something like that that's, you know, this is for gay people, you know, primarily.
joe rogan
I don't think there's a thing.
kid rock
Then you probably don't want to advertise on the outdoor channel.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Musicals.
kid rock
Just saying.
It's nothing to say it's bad or wrong or fucking right.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
It's just fucking common sense.
joe rogan
That's an actually good comparison.
I feel like advertising musicals on the outdoor channel.
kid rock
Hey, Bud Light, send me a fucking check.
joe rogan
They sent you how much beer?
kid rock
Two pallets, 100 cases.
joe rogan
How much is that worth?
kid rock
I have no fucking idea.
joe rogan
Probably a lot of money.
kid rock
Well, it depends.
joe rogan
How much do they spend on that?
kid rock
On Broadway in Nashville, including our bar, we're guilty of it.
Everyone does it.
I'm not a fan of it.
Beers are fucking like $7 to $10.
joe rogan
Wow.
kid rock
Nobody bats an eye.
joe rogan
Wow.
kid rock
But when we went into the agreement with my partner with the bar, I was like, I don't want shit to do.
With operations at any level, With dealing with bands, booking, I'll throw in my two cents, I'll keep up on things, but I hang fucking pictures.
That's what I do.
I come down and I'll get on stage drunk once in a while and sing a number or two.
But fuck, a lot of money.
Depends where you're selling them.
I've been giving them to my friends.
You want to see fucking confused people?
We get done playing pickleball or something.
I'm like, hey, you guys take a couple cases of Bud Light if you want.
And they take them into this room and they're fucking stacked.
And they're like, what the fuck, dude?
And I'm like, it's a long fucking story, man.
joe rogan
But if you've got to think the retail on those, let's just say retail.
The retail on those, a case of beer.
kid rock
What, 15 bucks?
joe rogan
Okay, and how many cases?
kid rock
15 grand?
joe rogan
How many cases was it?
jamie vernon
100. 100 times 30, 30 grand-ish, 15 to 20, 30 grand, depends.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
They spent a lot of money.
To send you a bunch of beer.
kid rock
What's funny, when I met with them and we were talking, they were like, you know, if you're messaging, you know, we'd like to work out a deal.
And I'm like...
joe rogan
What?
kid rock
I'm like, guys, I'm not here to fucking do a deal.
I'm like...
joe rogan
If you're messaging?
kid rock
It's kind of like, you know, they were kind of about, you know, like, I was telling them how I felt about everything.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
At first I was telling them, you know, like, hey, here's how you fucked up and here's how people like-minded like me think.
You know, and I kind of gave it to him.
I gave it to him at UFC that night.
And that was just speaking openly.
I go, but now, after I've done some research, and especially after I talked to them, but not only them, you know, they're the heads of this company.
They got vested interests.
Talking to a lot of people, including Dana, including Trump, including people that own distributor ships, people that drive for them, this, that, and the other bars, whatnot.
I was like, that's fucking enough.
I'm like, I go, but I don't, I go, I'm not here to do a fucking deal.
I go, no more, it's going to look fucking terrible.
If I come out and I'm like, oh, I got a bunch of money from Bud Lighter for sheeting up cases, I don't feel right fucking doing that.
No, you shouldn't.
joe rogan
I'm glad you don't.
I think...
kid rock
And like I said, there's no amount of money on the face of this fucking earth.
I threw out a couple ideas and they're fucking terrifying.
I can't wait to tell you one day.
I don't want to let them out of the box now because they're fucking genius.
joe rogan
Tell me afterwards.
kid rock
I will tell you after.
And I was just like, I'm not...
I go, I've made my friends a bunch of money.
Gillis, Dana, Peyton.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
kid rock
I still haven't gotten thank you cards from those fuckers yet.
joe rogan
Well, we made Shane the Bud Light spokesman on Protect Our Parks.
We just kept talking it up the entire time.
Like, dude, you can bring them back.
You can bring them back.
Because he'll down 16 of them in a podcast.
Like, you've never seen anything like it.
kid rock
If I didn't have shit to do tomorrow and I was getting after it, we'd be around there now.
joe rogan
But Shane, like, he doesn't even slur.
It's weird.
He just absorbs it.
kid rock
Me too.
joe rogan
Yeah?
kid rock
That's why I try to stick to beer.
I like a little whiskey, but I try not to drink it in public.
joe rogan
Whiskey will take you there quick.
Beer's like a nice, slow burn.
kid rock
You want to see all those fucked up videos of me on stage at fucking the Honky Tonk?
joe rogan
Whiskey?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
kid rock
Blackout fucking drunk.
joe rogan
I think what happened was probably it sucks that they lost so much money and it sucks that people lost their livelihoods.
What it did do that's positive, though, is it sent a message like, stay the fuck out of that shit.
Stay the fuck out of that shit, because most people don't agree with it.
kid rock
And by the way, stay on fucking brand if you're a company.
joe rogan
Exactly.
kid rock
For your employees, and I would go in that order, for your fucking employees first.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Your shareholders, and I know you guys at the top got stock options and shit, but for your fucking employees...
You're in fucking business to sell a fucking product.
You know who your market is.
Fucking stick to them.
You don't gotta be fucking out here like fucking going after everybody.
I don't know who their board members are, but people have told me that it looks like there's a few woke people out there, but I'm like...
So fucking what?
I'm like, you stick to your fucking market.
joe rogan
Yeah, stick to your market.
kid rock
Go where you're celebrated is the best thing I've ever heard in life.
Go where you're celebrated, not tolerated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's good advice.
I think it's just one of these things where these people get out of universities and they're indoctrinated into this way of thinking and they start working for a corporation and they want to change it.
kid rock
I told that to Brendan, the CEO. I said, what did you think was going to happen when you move half the corporate offices from St. Louis, Missouri to New York City?
And then you start hiring these Ivy League liberals to do your marketing.
What do you think's gonna happen?
That's like, you know, lining up a powder keg and lighting a wick and being like, I wonder if it explodes.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Yeah.
kid rock
I still think they should go back to fucking St. Louis too.
joe rogan
They probably should.
They probably should...
Well, they're probably reevaluating everything.
Obviously, they are reevaluating everything after that.
How do you not?
It's like they lost $27 billion.
kid rock
They are, and that was one of my things too.
I'm like, you know what?
It appears to people like me, because although we're friends and I love you guys and we'll see what the future holds, I have no fucking idea.
But I'm not looking for a corporate deal on any fucking level because that's how you set yourself up to get canceled.
And nobody can fucking cancel me at any level.
I like that very much.
But I was like, you need to fucking go back to fucking...
You look like you're just...
It's like this.
You cheat on your girl or vice versa or something like that.
By throwing money at it and buying her some shit and this and the other doesn't sweep it under the rug.
It don't fucking go away until you go, yeah, I fucked up.
And they just refuse to go like...
And I said, you don't have to go out and say, I'm fucking sorry.
We fucked up.
I go, I'll say it.
Here's some fucking ideas for that.
I go, here's one idea.
I was like, so the commercial cuts and it's like me out fucking working my ass off.
I'm just sweating, fucking no shirt on.
That's that and the other one.
And someone's like, hey man, cool off.
And they hand me a Bud Light.
And people are like, what the fuck?
And I drink the Bud Light and then they pan out and I'm shoveling fucking piles of money into the back of my truck.
Like, Kid Rock's sold out.
He's doing some shit.
joe rogan
That's funny.
kid rock
But at least it would poke fun at themselves.
It would kind of get it and people would go like, alright.
joe rogan
That's the way they should go.
They should go with a poke fun at themselves.
I had some ideas too, I'll tell you later.
I had one that I pitched to Shane.
I think there's a way to do it.
But it's also, you know, for other companies, just realize, like, a lot of people think all this stuff is nonsense, and a lot of people think that a lot of these influencers that you're latching yourself to because you think they're popular, they're popular because a lot of people are They think that they're attention whores and they're mentally ill and so they pay attention to them.
Doesn't mean they respect them as human beings and you want to have them as your spokespeople and you want to disparage all the other people that have been your loyal supporters forever.
You're making a decision.
It's a bad tactical decision.
It doesn't make any sense logically.
You're not speaking to your giant portion of your market.
You're actually in opposition to them.
It's fucking dumb.
kid rock
Yes, but I want them to give me a reason to drink it again.
I want them to double down on stupid humor.
So funny, I want a specialized can.
You know what I mean?
They made these kick-ass Budweiser cans all red, white, and fucking blue.
Shit like that.
Just do something funny.
joe rogan
That would work.
Imagine if they turned Budweiser into a red, white, and blue can.
kid rock
God, I want to tell you this one idea so fucking funny.
joe rogan
Tell me later.
kid rock
This is so fucking funny.
joe rogan
Hang on to it.
kid rock
They shit themselves when I told them.
They literally cracked up laughing.
They were on the floor laughing.
And then they were like, we didn't sleep for two fucking weeks.
joe rogan
Because wondering whether they should go for it.
kid rock
Oh, there's no way they'll go for it.
joe rogan
No?
kid rock
Fuck no.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
kid rock
It's not my favorite things.
I've had a lot of great fucking corporate deals.
Like, fucking, it's incredible with Chevy and Harley Davidson and Jim Beam.
So many other ones.
unidentified
But...
kid rock
And they've all been pretty good for the most part.
But...
You know, like dealing with Chevy, like the people I dealt with were great, but trying to get stuff done in those situations, like even when I was talking to him at the design center about the shape of the Suburban in the back, I'm like, you get fucking groceries, like they slide out.
It's just a bad design.
Or a lot of people use these cars as chauffeur cars or an Escalade.
Why can't the seats move back?
So if you don't have any luggage, you get more legroom for those being transported around.
When we're in the design center and they're like, to change the mirrors on that car will take three years.
Which is why I fucking love Elon Musk.
A motherfucker, not only for everything he stands for and the shit he says, and I know he's probably not a Trump fan, and I fucking love Trump.
In case we're not clear here today, Joe, I fucking love Trump.
joe rogan
I already got that part.
kid rock
Elon's fucking awesome, man.
joe rogan
I wonder who Elon is supporting.
kid rock
What did he fucking tweet last week?
It was something so...
Oh, he tweeted...
Do you see the Disney tweet?
joe rogan
No.
kid rock
Pull that up.
Elon Musk...
Oh, this is fucking great.
He took the Disney logo, flipped Mickey Mouse upside down so it looks like two balls and a dick, and he wrote D's nuts in the Disney lettering.
joe rogan
No.
kid rock
Fucking winner!
joe rogan
Really?
That's wild.
kid rock
What do you think of that Cybertruck?
joe rogan
I love it.
kid rock
See, I kind of like it too, and I'm not an electric dude.
I was going to tweet this out to Elon.
I don't know if we have mutual friends, but I was going to say, hey, I'll make you a deal.
Send me a fucking Cybertruck.
I'll fucking drive it for a few weeks, and I'll give my honest fucking opinion on it.
Like, no fucking money, no nothing.
If I like it, you just let me buy it.
I don't even want it for fucking free.
I go, but you're going to take the chance.
It's a 50-50.
You're that fucking confident in it.
Like, people know me that I don't fucking bullshit.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
And I don't need a free fucking truck.
unidentified
Right.
kid rock
You should probably give it to me if I do that, but I don't fucking need it.
So I'm happy to be like, you send me a fucking truck.
So I basically jump the line.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
You know, that's what it'd be.
joe rogan
You'll do a review.
kid rock
I'll drive the fucking truck.
joe rogan
A Kid Rock review.
kid rock
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
I like it.
You'll love it.
Have you driven an electric car before?
kid rock
I guess we're calling them out now, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, we are.
Have you driven these nuts?
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
kid rock
I mean, right there.
I want to hang out with that dude.
Right there.
unidentified
He's a maniac.
joe rogan
He's a fucking maniac.
unidentified
Fucking great.
joe rogan
Have you driven an electric car before?
kid rock
I drove a Rivian for the first time.
joe rogan
Oh, those are great.
kid rock
But I only drove it down the street.
A buddy of mine showed up with one.
A friend of a friend drove it down the street.
It was the SUV. And then I drove it on my driving machine.
It was fucking wild.
It was good.
And I've been interested in those, too, because that's a Detroit company.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Rivians are supposed to be great.
The Plaid, I have the Plaid, the S Plaid.
unidentified
What's that?
joe rogan
It's the four-door car that goes zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds.
kid rock
Do they make it in a men's color?
joe rogan
Yes, white.
Or black.
I think you can get red, too.
But the fucking thing's, it's something from the future.
You can't imagine a car that's that fast and completely silent.
kid rock
That blew my mind, too.
But you're like me.
You're not driving up to fucking Alabama in your car.
joe rogan
If you have to drive long distances in those things, it's a pain in the dick.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because you've got to pull over and stop and wait for 20 minutes and charge it up.
kid rock
I think the only place I drive myself these days is to the airport or to the dentist.
That's it.
joe rogan
Well, if you just want to drive around town, electric cars are the shit.
And that thing, I think it does zero to 60 under three seconds, and it's 7,000 pounds and bulletproof.
kid rock
And it's stainless steel.
joe rogan
Stainless steel.
kid rock
I could wrap that motherfucker.
joe rogan
Wrap that motherfucker in gold.
kid rock
Or camo.
joe rogan
It looks like something from the future.
It looks like some Blade Runner shit.
kid rock
Which I'm not into modern design.
joe rogan
Have you been in front of it?
kid rock
No.
joe rogan
In real life?
Oh, it's so sick.
kid rock
I saw those things about it getting fucked up in snow and shit.
Have you seen that shit?
joe rogan
Bad tires.
That's all that is.
Have you ever driven an AMG G-Wagon in snow?
They're fucking terrible.
Because they have street tires.
They have wide street tires on them that make it handle well.
kid rock
One foreign car.
joe rogan
What do you got?
kid rock
Rolls-Royce.
joe rogan
Well, we both had Hennessy Velociraptors.
kid rock
Right.
That's right.
That's my daily driver still.
joe rogan
Yeah, I drive his TRX. I know.
kid rock
I've been back and forth.
joe rogan
Hennessy's the man.
He's a maniac.
kid rock
I want to preface because people think I'm a fucking, like, I'm really into Rolls-Royces.
I bought this car because I've had this Waffle House license plate, like, you know, holder forever.
And I got this car guy.
He's like, I got 100th anniversary Rolls with gold flag.
And I'm like...
We're going to get that fucker and put that Waffle House plate on it.
And then I got Let's Go Brandon badges on the side of it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
kid rock
And we have more fun in that fucking thing going to Waffle House or like whatever shit we're doing.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That's the only Rolls Royce in the country with a Waffle House license plate on it.
Let's Go Brandon edition.
kid rock
There it is.
How'd you find that?
Fuck.
Is all this shit on the internet?
joe rogan
You didn't know it was on the internet?
kid rock
That was on the news?
unidentified
I'm sure I was.
joe rogan
Of course it's in the news.
kid rock
Fuck, I can't stop nerding out.
joe rogan
I'm glad you don't pay attention to all the shit that people write about you.
You'd go crazy, right?
kid rock
You know the only time I read comments is when it's like a news article and I'll go, I'll see like some fucked up article and I'll think like Family Feud.
I'll think like this is what everyone's saying down below.
And I'll scroll through them and I'm usually pretty fucking close.
Like I could read something up there and probably start scrolling.
I could tell you what they're saying, some fucked up article.
Like the majority.
Like I fucking pat myself on the back of being pretty in tune with common folk, even though I couldn't tell you what a gallon of milk costs.
But just my friends, places I have houses where I spend my time, what I do, I'm kind of...
People think I'm some fucking nutball right-wing fucking weirdo.
I'm pretty fucking level-headed overall.
And I know you know this more than most people, but, you know.
joe rogan
When people get real suspicious, when things get real weird, is when you got people that put up things and you can't comment.
That's weird.
kid rock
I did one.
joe rogan
Like Bill Gates puts up a lot of stuff on Instagram and you can't comment.
kid rock
Well, my father passed away last week.
God bless him.
And so I put up a nice post, and then Trump actually posted about him, which was fucking mind-blowing and unbelievable.
But what a great friend right there, if I could speak to him about a human being, and I could tell you what a great father-grandfather he is all day long.
But it was actually my fiancé's suggestion.
I say fiancé, too.
We've been together 17 years.
So it was their suggestion, like, hey, if you're going to do this nice post for your dad, turn off the comments.
Make it about him.
Not about you and, you know, everyone saying, I feel bad for you and this, that, and the other.
And I thought that was the right thing to do.
That's the only time I've turned the comments off.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not a bad thing.
kid rock
I thought that made sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
I thought she was hit that one, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not a bad piece of advice.
Especially in that particular post.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It makes a lot of sense.
But that's one of the things that people are having to navigate through now.
If someone posts something, people get to comment on it.
Everybody gets to comment on it.
It's interesting.
kid rock
See, I get all that from my fiancee, Audrey.
My life's turned into a fucking meme.
It's yours.
Me and my friends, we don't fucking talk.
They just send me fucked up memes and I send them back, like fucked up shit on the internet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
And half the time it's some comment that some Weisenheimer made that's fucking hysterical.
It just fucking makes your day.
But I'm not going to spend my time sifting through them, no.
joe rogan
Well, there's so many out there and so many people find them.
So many people aggregate them.
There's like thousands of meme pages.
I follow a shit ton of them.
I find they say funny shit, I follow them.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
One of the things that's really interesting politically today is that the left are terrible at memeing.
They're fucking terrible at it.
Who would have ever thought that the funniest shit would be essentially right-wing?
It's not that they're really right-wing people.
kid rock
Conservatives have changed immensely.
joe rogan
They're the rebels now.
kid rock
Right.
I'm the fucking rebel.
Everybody in fucking Hollywood in my business is fucking, you know...
joe rogan
They're the conformists.
kid rock
Right.
I'm the one like, fuck that.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
Trump.
joe rogan
That's the punk rockers and the rebels are Republican now.
You know who said that?
Johnny Rotten.
Johnny Rotten from the fucking Sex Pistols had a very famous quote about that.
kid rock
Well, he's fucking...
joe rogan
See if you can find that.
kid rock
He's right wing.
He's a Trump dude.
joe rogan
It's wild.
Well, it's like even Mike Tyson said this.
He goes, when I was younger, I was very, very liberal.
But as I get older, I just have more common sense and I see how my kids are going into this world.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
He goes, I've become more conservative.
kid rock
That seems to be pretty common.
joe rogan
It's the oldest expression ever.
Show me a young man who's not liberal.
I'll show you a man with no heart.
Show me an old man who's not conservative.
I'll show you an old man with no brain.
kid rock
Very true.
And it used to be more so back in the day, like, be a conservative because you're a fucking dork when you're a kid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
That's changed.
I mean, you got fuckers like me on here, fuck this, fuck that, you know, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
We also realize there's certain aspects that being conservative promotes that are very beneficial.
One of them, accountability and discipline.
Those things alone.
Those things alone.
You're thought of as a conservative, and I'm not conservative, but you're thought of as a conservative exercise, which is just hilarious.
If you're telling me that you're not on my side because I'm fit and because I work out all the time, then good.
I want to know that.
I want to know that you don't like strong people.
I want to know that you don't like people with willpower.
I want to know that you don't like people who have discipline, who get things done.
Because you're not on my side then.
Because I know the way to navigate this life in a positive, happy way.
And it's not by being lazy.
And it's not by not promoting beneficial things to your health that are difficult to do.
Like getting in shape.
If you're not saying that it's good to be fit and strong.
And be able to protect yourself.
If you're not saying that.
kid rock
I would like to double down on that for people who like what I do.
And there's plenty of them.
You know, that they know I love them and they love me.
Like, you know, I've done it the last several years.
Really got my shit together.
I'd say since I'm 40, I'm in the best shape and feel the best that I've ever felt since then.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
kid rock
So it's pretty wild since then.
But I would like to put it out.
I've always wanted to figure out a way, and this might be the right platform because I know you're into that lifestyle, is to employ them like...
Hey man, listen to fucking what Dana White says.
Listen to what Joe Rogan says.
If you want advice from me, I'll give it to you.
There's ways to do this now and the information is all there at the fingertips to start taking small steps, whether it's the intermittent fasting or whether it's cutting out processed foods.
Whether it's, you know, just everything in moderation, including moderation.
You know, there's so many little things of getting in the gym, self-discipline like that.
You know, a lot of my fans are in and around my age.
It's fucking time.
It's time to start doing that.
joe rogan
It is.
It's never too late, and you will improve.
Just do it carefully and slowly in the beginning.
That's the most important thing.
Don't become a hero first day in the gym and hurt yourself.
kid rock
Because most of the time I'm doing this shit, I come off like, all I do is fucking drink and smoke and say, oh, fuck that.
That's not how you get to where I'm at.
joe rogan
No.
kid rock
There's a whole lot more discipline involved, work-wise, health-wise, family-wise, friends, fan-wise.
joe rogan
100%.
kid rock
Everything.
joe rogan
100%.
I'm glad you said that.
kid rock
It's the most positive shit I've said in fucking 20 years.
joe rogan
I'm breaking it out of you, Kid Rock!
Let's go!
It's important to talk about because it's important for people to hear that, you know, it doesn't mean you're not a good person, doesn't mean you're not a kind person.
It's like, I like being strong.
And if you want to tell me there's something wrong with being strong, then you're weak.
There's no way, no way you're making any sense.
It's not important to be fit and healthy.
Shut the fuck up.
It's not important to know how to protect yourself.
That's so dumb.
It doesn't mean that you hurt people.
It doesn't mean you want to hurt people.
I don't want to hurt anybody.
But if I'm in a situation, I would rather be the person who gets to decide who goes to the hospital.
I don't want to be at the mercy of some crazy person.
kid rock
It's peace of mind, too.
joe rogan
It's much more calm.
kid rock
I have way overdone electronic locks here on my bedroom and this, you know, gun here, safe room, all this shit.
And it's not like I necessarily need it because you've been to my place to get to my place.
If you come up there, you're fucking already at strike two.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
Sleep easier.
joe rogan
Sleep easier.
Sleep better.
Also, you gotta know what's real in the world.
The idea that there's no threats out there is so stupid.
No, it doesn't mean you're looking for one all day long and seeing ones that aren't there.
But recognize the reality of the world that we live in.
The threats are real.
kid rock
That's fucked up.
We went to the movies Probably five years ago, me and Audrey.
We're just, afternoon, like four o'clock, let's go see some movie we wanted to see.
Sitting there, fucking one time I don't bring my gun, right?
Just grab a seat, just ten people in there, you know, theater's empty.
This fucking kid walks in, some fucking white kid, his fucking backpack and his fucking hoodie up.
And he goes and sits all the way in the back, and I'm sitting there with her, and I'm like, I don't have my gun.
We both agreed.
Let's go.
We fucking left.
joe rogan
Wow.
kid rock
It's fucked up to have to even think that way.
But that's where my mind was.
joe rogan
There's no metal detectors at the fucking movie theater.
kid rock
This fucking $20 we spent on moving popcorn, I'm like, for peace of mind, I'm like, let's leave.
Probably was a nice kid.
I don't know.
If you don't think people judge you on your fucking appearance, you're fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially if you have a hood over your head and a backpack.
kid rock
Well, anything.
I would look like a fucking nut when I was young.
I had a fucking flat top up to here and pants sagging and fucking smoking doobies.
Fuck is...
Like, I got judged by it, rightfully fucking so.
unidentified
Of course.
kid rock
Until you get to know somebody, what else do you have?
And to judge them on how they appear.
joe rogan
But also, that's a new factor in the world, the mass shooter.
It's a new factor.
And here's the thing that new one talks about.
kid rock
It's always fucking white people, too.
Black people kill each other, and white people, like, fucking shoot up fucking schools and fucking bullshit and this, that, and the other.
joe rogan
Yeah, it mostly is white people.
kid rock
Stereotypes are fucking crazy.
joe rogan
It is mostly white people.
And lately, mostly LBGT people.
kid rock
It's not even gay people.
Fucking weirdos are like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
And how many people do you think are doing that?
Like, I wanted to rebel against my dad, God rest his soul, when I was fucking young.
You know what I mean?
Even though I was totally, like, into hip-hop and everything, I still knew that it got his fucking goat.
And, you know, and we had our fucking differences when I was young.
Very understandable now that I'm a grandfather myself.
But how many of these kids, like, you know, got that dad...
They think he's a racist, this, that, and the other.
Maybe he is on some level at certain things because he tells inappropriate jokes or whatever, this, that, and the other.
You know, people are from different times, blah, blah, blah, that I know I'm going to piss my dad off, that motherfucker.
I'm going to wear a dress.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kid rock
Remember guys, when we were young, they'd get earrings.
Shit, totally straight dudes, you know, just get earrings.
I remember dudes getting pissed their dads off.
My brother got it.
My dad ripped it out of his fucking ear.
That's no shit.
Woke him up out of bed.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Yeah, for sure.
There's definitely people that rebel against their parents.
There's also people that always look at the people that are older and look at how fucked up the world is and think they've got better ideas.
That's how communism starts.
It starts from the universities.
That's where it comes from.
kid rock
Unbelievable what's going on in those universities.
Did you go to college?
joe rogan
Oh, it's wild.
Yeah, I went to UMass Boston.
But I really only went just so people didn't think I was a loser.
kid rock
Where's your fucking accent?
joe rogan
I got rid of it as soon as I started hearing my voice.
I was like, ooh, that's terrible.
kid rock
I love Boston accent.
That's one of the reasons I love Bill Burr.
He's funny as shit, but I love that fucking accent.
Hey, this fucking guy fucked this car by the bar!
joe rogan
He's the most Boston, Boston guy.
I was actually born in New Jersey, and then I lived in San Francisco until I was 11. I lived in Florida from when I was 11 to 13, then Boston from 13 to like 24. Oh, no wonder you fucked up.
kid rock
San Francisco, Florida, and Boston?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I lived all over the place.
kid rock
You don't know if you're a gay redneck or just a fucking Irish fighting son of a bitch?
joe rogan
Yeah, I lived everywhere.
Then I lived in New York until I was like 27, then lived in LA. Yeah, so I was all over the place.
So I never really...
I did have a Boston accent, though.
I did for a while.
I definitely blended in.
kid rock
I love that fucking accent.
joe rogan
It's a great accent for dudes.
Rough on the ladies.
Rough to hear, like a hardcore Boston.
Are you going to fuck me or what?
kid rock
I'd take it over a New York accent.
Although some of my buddies from New York, we got the hardcore Long Island shit.
They're funny too.
I guess who's saying it, you know?
joe rogan
A friend of mine, we were kids, hooked up with this girl.
kid rock
Did we finish all that beer?
joe rogan
No, we can get more.
So a friend, he hooked up with this girl.
kid rock
Maybe I can call my boys and have them drop you off.
joe rogan
We've got some beers.
Yeah, you can have them drop off a pallet.
But anyway, he said that she said, like when they started making out, she was like, you're gonna tell your friends.
So that became a thing that we always repeated.
unidentified
You're gonna tell your friends.
kid rock
Who made that neon?
I collect a lot of old porcelain.
joe rogan
Roadside Relics, a company here in Austin, Texas.
kid rock
I know Roadside Relics.
I bought shit from them.
So what they did right there, because you can't get porcelain anymore.
It's very tough to get, but what they did right there- You can't get porcelain anymore?
It's very tough.
So what they did right there, because I'm a collector of these, is they painted behind the neon.
See how it makes that Joe Rogan pop?
A lot of people can't see the top thing either.
That's cool, but- What I'm saying is they did a fucking great job on that.
joe rogan
Well, they do all their stuff like it's old, right?
kid rock
But that's half the thing of old is painting behind the neon.
A lot of these new ones don't do that.
A lot of the honky tonks you see in Nashville down there, they don't have that.
joe rogan
Oh.
This is a gift from my friend Brigham.
And so when he gave it to me, when I got it, I was like, oh, that should be like right behind me.
Look at that.
unidentified
That's great.
joe rogan
That's perfect.
kid rock
Trust me, that shit, you have no idea what that shit is worth.
Go online and start looking up fucking real fucking porcelain old school neons and go to auction houses.
I go to all these auction houses to buy them and shit.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
kid rock
Un-fucking-real.
joe rogan
Well, this is, you know, this guy does a wild, he does a bunch of wild shit online.
He does amazing stuff.
kid rock
I know their stuff.
joe rogan
Cool artist.
It's an interesting art form, right?
Like old neon signs.
There's a soul to those.
They're exciting.
kid rock
There's a great place in Nashville.
Sometimes I'll find old ones.
And they're so ridiculously priced.
I have one in my house.
It's Redneck Paradise.
It was a thing up in the...
I can't remember what upstate New York, some vacation spot.
And I wanted to buy it.
It was fucking ridiculous.
It must have been like fucking $35,000, $40,000 for something around that size.
Different dimensions.
joe rogan
Wow.
kid rock
So I go to Bobby Joslin, Joslin Sign Company.
I'm like, hey, can you replicate this with what I wanted to say?
Yep, six grand.
joe rogan
You saved yourself some money.
There's a thing about having the old ones, though, right?
kid rock
Yeah, I got some cool ones.
joe rogan
If you have something that's really old...
kid rock
I have Willie Nelson's Nashville Nightlife.
It was on his thing.
It's probably 26 feet long and probably 5 to 6 feet high.
joe rogan
What is it made out of?
kid rock
Steel.
Because it was outdoors.
But painted on the whole thing.
joe rogan
Wow.
kid rock
I got some cool ones.
The old Dixie gas ones that you're not supposed to have because they have a Confederate flag on them, you know, from the old gas company back in the day.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
kid rock
There's some eerie, racy shit out there.
joe rogan
Yeah?
kid rock
I antique in flea market a lot, especially...
I rarely stay the night in a city unless I get to the West Coast.
unidentified
Like racing ones?
kid rock
No, racist.
joe rogan
Oh, racist.
kid rock
Like, not neons, but just shit out there.
unidentified
I thought you said racy.
kid rock
Like, I'll collect some of this stuff just because they're never making it again, whether it's Native American, black shit.
Like, I have these fucking signs that I found in Reno, Nevada at some antique shop.
And they are solid steel, real deal.
It's like...
It's like...
They'll say, like, swimming.
Whites only.
joe rogan
Whoa.
kid rock
And these were actual signs that were up somewhere.
And I don't know what to do with them.
Because I want to put them up somewhere.
And I'll ask my black friends.
They're like, dude, don't put that up.
joe rogan
Don't put that up.
kid rock
I'm like, but it's a reminder of how fucked up shit was.
joe rogan
Yeah, people don't want that reminder.
You should put it in a drawer somewhere.
kid rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can show people.
Like, look, I'm going to show you something.
This is how fucked up things used to be.
And then you, like, preface it every time you introduce it to them.
kid rock
So you don't think it has, like, a little bit of a reminder of how fucked up things were?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
It does if you have it in a drawer.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if you have it in a drawer, and then you say you want to see how fucked up things used to be, you know they used to have those signs?
kid rock
So you don't think I should put it right next to my swimming pool up there?
joe rogan
I would advise no.
But I think having it is not a bad thing.
You should have it in a drawer.
So if you have it in a drawer, every time you show someone, you get to represent what it is.
Instead of it just being a sign, they're like, Kid Rock is a sign since whites only.
kid rock
My black friends are all fucking cool.
joe rogan
I'm sure they are.
kid rock
We fuck with each other on that level all the time.
joe rogan
I'm sure they are.
It's not them that I would ever worry about.
kid rock
I'm not putting it up for other people.
I'm putting it up for my family, my friends.
joe rogan
People already have your fucking Rolls Royce.
They're the...
kid rock
I'm putting on my Rolls Royce.
joe rogan
But they have it.
kid rock
Great idea.
joe rogan
Photos.
kid rock
Where'd you get that idea?
Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
I told you my Rolls Royce!
Oh my God.
But having it as a relic of, you know, the Jim Crow days is, you know...
kid rock
I want to show my son, I want to show my granddaughter.
joe rogan
Show anybody.
It's historic.
I mean, it's creepy.
But it's like, at the old studio, we used to have...
Where is that fucking helmet, that Nazi helmet?
We had a Nazi helmet that had a sword, like a bayonet.
kid rock
You only used it on Halloween and stuff, right?
joe rogan
No, it had a light.
It was a light.
It was made by this same guy, Shane Against the Machine.
This guy who made this chimpanzee skull, he made this, like, a lamp that was a Nazi helmet with a bayonet through it.
Where the fuck is that, Jamie?
jamie vernon
In a box, I don't know.
joe rogan
We gotta find it.
It needs to be brought back.
That's our thing.
How dope is that?
kid rock
I love it.
joe rogan
That's dope, right?
It's a real bayonet.
kid rock
No, it's artwork.
It's provocative.
It's fucked up.
It looks cool as shit.
joe rogan
And it's a lamp.
And the one I have has a bunch of holes in it like that one.
It's pretty dope.
jamie vernon
This might even be redone.
I think that part's new.
joe rogan
Oh, he ramped it up.
Let's get a new one from him.
We'll reach out.
kid rock
Yeah, I'm into that shit.
joe rogan
Dude, I love it.
But it's like...
That is a...
kid rock
Not because it's...
Obviously, you know, you get it.
joe rogan
Obviously, I get it.
But I mean, apparently there's an area in Europe where so many people died.
I'm not exactly sure what country it is.
I know France has this enormous area that's the size of Paris.
France has an enormous area the size of Paris that no one can go into.
Do you know that?
They have so many unexploded ordnance and so much chemical bombs and all the shit that they fucking dropped on them.
kid rock
No shit.
joe rogan
Find that one spot.
What is it called?
There's an area that's literally the size of Paris that you can't go into.
And it's all from the war.
So apparently they found so many helmets that you could go there and, like, find them in the ground in these places during World War II. So they're not uncommon.
So they take them and they can turn them into artwork.
kid rock
I wonder why they haven't, like, debombed it, demined it, like, all that stuff.
joe rogan
I know, right?
Like, go in there and gather up all the swords and shit.
Like, how many people died there?
They just left them there.
kid rock
I would like to do that trip.
To Normandy?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
I got some friends in Paris.
I'm not...
It's getting bad.
Like, you know, years ago, I was like, I never wanted to be one of those people big around the world.
It's not that I don't appreciate the fans.
It's like, I don't give a fuck about being big in Croatia or fucking wherever, you know?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You want to be able to go hang out.
kid rock
Played in Europe.
And I was raising a kid, too, as a single father.
So I split my time.
You know what I mean?
I was always home.
Like, you know, Thursday, maybe to Sunday.
I was always home.
But it's getting so bad.
I was like, years ago, I was like, I fucking love Canada.
Love the fucking people there.
But I'm like, eh.
I'm not gonna go.
I'm like, I'm not going to Europe.
I said that years ago.
I'm like, I'm fucking done.
We have talked about doing a festival in Budapest, like for all the European fans.
Some shit gets kicked around, but I'm like, no, really, I love the fans.
I don't fuck, I don't care.
I'm like, I'm not going to fucking Canada.
I love fucking Canada, but I'm not going.
And now I'm to the point, I'm like...
Is there really a reason to go west of the Mississippi?
unidentified
Like, I'm fucking huge in Kentucky, man.
kid rock
Like, big.
joe rogan
But you don't have to.
You do whatever the fuck you want.
Your kid rock.
You can make those people come to you.
kid rock
I try not to let that get to my head, actually.
joe rogan
You don't have to.
But you just decide, I don't like going there.
Like, I don't hate anybody in Canada.
I just don't go there anymore.
kid rock
Dude, I went there with Wayne Gretzky and got detained.
joe rogan
I believe you.
Why'd you get detained?
kid rock
It's like, you know, you had to do that rehabilitation thing because you got caught with weed when you were like 18 or whatever.
Everyone in my band did.
This is one of the reasons we stopped going there.
They kept fucking me every time I go flying private with fucking the king of Canada.
Fucking detained me for 45 fucking minutes.
I'm like, fuck this place, man.
And I know it's not the people's fault.
I look at Trudeau.
He's a fucking classic piece of shit.
joe rogan
He's a piece of shit.
When did this happen?
How long ago?
kid rock
This was with Chelios's Hall of Fame induction.
So whatever year that was.
joe rogan
How many years ago?
kid rock
Seven, eight.
I'm terrible with the year game.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're rough on letting people in.
So listen to this.
kid rock
Maybe we ought to take a nod from them.
joe rogan
Yeah, they've got...
Well, they're not...
They don't want people integrating into their culture, though.
They're happy for people to be able to...
kid rock
Their whole culture's integrated.
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
It is.
It is.
But what I'm saying is they're having a problem with Muslim people wanting to impart Sharia law in certain schools.
kid rock
Don't tell me about it.
I was born in Dearborn, Michigan.
joe rogan
Which is crazy, right?
kid rock
Fuck.
joe rogan
One of the things that was hilarious was they elected this woman to be a Muslim who's a mayor of the city in Michigan.
And everyone's like, yay, so inclusive.
First thing she did is ban the pride flag.
kid rock
Exactly.
They're throwing gay people off buildings.
It's so crazy.
Gay people are like Free Palestine.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen that meme?
Like, gays for Palestine, then Palestine for gays.
kid rock
Yes.
Yeah, throwing people off buildings.
joe rogan
Jamie, can you pull that up so I can read it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
About the size of Paris.
So, in the years following the Great War, today, around 100 kilometers square, roughly the size of Paris, is still strictly prohibited by law from public entry and agriculture use because of an impossible amount of human remains and unexploded chemical munitions Yet to be recovered from the battlefields of both wars.
So there's an impossible amount of human remains out there, dude.
kid rock
I'm looking at the top, and the website says messinessychick.com.
joe rogan
It's a solid website.
It's totally trustworthy and reliable.
kid rock
MessyNessyChick.com says.
joe rogan
Well, this is a lady that just, whatever, maybe it's a dude, I don't know who wrote it, but whoever this person, they're just reporting on something that is true.
This is, uh, they pulled so much shit out of that area.
kid rock
I kind of want to go there.
Like a metal detector?
joe rogan
I bet you'd find some shit.
100%.
kid rock
We do some metal detecting.
joe rogan
But just imagine that expression.
An impossible amount of human remains.
kid rock
460 square miles.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Paris, that fucking...
unidentified
That's...
kid rock
No.
joe rogan
What is the total amount of square miles you'd say, Jamie?
jamie vernon
It's senator.
Originally covered that much space, and then it now was down to the size of Paris.
unidentified
There's no fucking way Paris is 460 square miles.
joe rogan
So they slowly encroached in on the toxic area.
jamie vernon
1,200 square kilometers, 460 square miles, now down to the size of Paris.
joe rogan
Wow.
kid rock
How big 460 square fucking miles is?
joe rogan
That's a lot.
kid rock
It's fucking huge.
joe rogan
That's a giant piece of land.
unidentified
It's a state.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Bigger than some states.
joe rogan
So there's a state you can't go into?
kid rock
I want to go.
joe rogan
It's probably super scary.
I mean, there's places in Vietnam where people would walk through the jungle and then boom, no leg.
Because you just stepped on a landmine that had been left there for 50 years.
kid rock
My uncle was in Vietnam.
Not good.
Not good.
joe rogan
That's one of the sketchiest wars.
You want to be a conspiracy theorist.
Look into Vietnam.
The Vietnam War is one of the most perplexing of all wars because today no one thinks we should have gone and yet they do the exact same thing today that they did back then.
The way they just decide that people from this country need to be flying overseas to go shoot at people they don't know and it's all based on a lie and no one ever goes to jail for that lie.
kid rock
It's insane.
joe rogan
And everything evolves, man.
Everything evolves.
You know, like, computers back then were terrible.
Now they're really good.
You know, if they were really terrible at the way they were corruptly running the world back then and made it real obvious, they're better at it now.
unidentified
Yeah.
kid rock
You just, what's the endgame?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
kid rock
Like, I'm fine.
I can ride it out.
I've been blessed.
I'm like, all right.
About my grandchildren.
Like, fuck.
joe rogan
I know.
I go back and forth from being optimistic to really pessimistic.
I go back and forth.
Like, I'll start thinking, you know what?
I'm pretty sure we're going to pull ahead and figure this out.
And then I go, yeah, stupid.
That's because you live in Texas and you don't live in Gaza.
If you lived in Gaza, you would be convinced that it's the end of the world.
Right?
Because it is the end of the world in one place.
In that spot, it's the end of the world.
But where you are, it's not.
And you got to look at it that way.
And when I look at it that way, I'm like, ooh.
kid rock
The only wars we won were the fucking ones we were the most brutal motherfuckers on the planet.
Which, I don't disagree with what Israel's doing.
It's like, they should just go in there and be like, you know what?
We want our hostages back.
If we don't have them back, clock starts now in fucking 24 hours.
We're going to start bombing motherfuckers and killing fucking civilians.
30-40 thousand a fucking time.
So you civilians better fucking pack up and fucking get these fucking motherfuckers.
You go against Hamas.
You fucking go against them.
We're not playing fucking games with you.
That's the only thing people understand.
This is what happened in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Boom!
Swiped out.
They're like, oh, yes, we don't have Supreme Leader anymore.
We did not know you had such big bombs.
joe rogan
Yeah, but everybody has big bombs now.
The problem is you use a big bomb.
You set a precedent that they can use a big bomb.
kid rock
They don't have one.
joe rogan
Well, they don't, but they're allies too.
That's the real problem.
kid rock
Then we bomb the fuck out of them.
Someone's going to learn.
You've got to get your ass beat hard enough.
joe rogan
You can't just nuclear bomb people.
kid rock
I didn't say nuclear.
joe rogan
Nuclear bomb you back.
kid rock
No, I didn't say nuclear.
joe rogan
Okay, you said Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I thought you meant it like that.
kid rock
No, no.
I was saying just the brute force of strength used in those conflicts.
joe rogan
Yeah, but even a conventional bombing campaign, if you want to do that somewhere, they can do that to your place.
And this is what we have to avoid.
kid rock
Fuck around and find out?
joe rogan
Yeah, until someone launches nukes.
And then we have a...
Our civilization is over.
The world, as you know it, ceases to exist.
There is no more electricity.
Whatever tools you have or things you find, and a small percentage of us are going to make it to breed and then make new kids and then go out into the world.
There's very few people that are going to live, man.
kid rock
It's like me and you could probably figure it out.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have chickens too.
I have elk in the freezer too.
But that freezer's not going to stay on.
kid rock
You can gut an elk.
joe rogan
I can gut an elk.
But that freezer's not going to stay on.
So I'm going to lose most of my meat.
Unless I turn it into jerky.
You're going to have to do something to figure out how to fucking get by because the world is going to be different.
You're not going to have any electricity forever.
For the rest of your life, there'll be no electricity.
kid rock
Just throwing paint at the wall, but what if we empower the people of Palestine, who could be good people?
I don't know.
Last I checked, most of these motherfuckers hate us.
But I'm not saying all the people do.
There's probably...
A lot that don't.
Just like in Iran, the population is, you know, because of the Iraq war, there's so many under 50 there.
That's like the majority.
joe rogan
The thing is, these guys don't have access to other information outside of where they live.
unidentified
And then on top of that- Fucking Elon, send the Starlink, we'll send them some fucking guns.
kid rock
Fuck, let's go!
joe rogan
The problem is, most of them would be so opposed to Israel that they would want to use those guns to go attack Israel.
kid rock
Well, now we have due reason to fuck them all up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you think about you're a kid and you don't know why there's a conflict between Palestine and Israel and you're living in Palestine and then they start bombing and then they kill your mom.
Yeah, but you didn't do anything.
kid rock
Sounds like Bud Light.
joe rogan
And then you get guns.
You're gonna go want to attack people.
You're gonna want to avenge them.
You're gonna want to join whatever group, whatever terrorist group.
kid rock
So why did World War II end?
joe rogan
Well, why did World War II start?
kid rock
Checkmate.
joe rogan
You got a dude who's fucking methed up.
You got an Adolf Hitler, methed up, charismatic dude that wants to take over the world.
That's how it started.
How did it end?
Nuclear bombs.
But it also ended through attrition.
At the end of it, the devastation on both sides was so horrible.
kid rock
Terrible.
But where was the end?
joe rogan
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
kid rock
No, but what was the alternative?
joe rogan
Well, that's that case.
You know, the thing about whenever you're bombing cities...
kid rock
What if that was your house?
What if that was your house?
Let's call your house Israel.
And your neighbors are Palestine.
joe rogan
Okay.
kid rock
Those motherfuckers are...
You got a family of four.
They come over and fucking take out two of them in the fucking worst way.
Are you really gonna, like, worry about, like, what type of force you're using at your neighbor's?
joe rogan
No, you definitely wouldn't.
kid rock
Well, the wife didn't have anything to do with it.
We've got to make sure she's okay and get some aid.
The senator's like, no, I'm sorry, man.
This is fucking war.
It's terrible.
It's the worst thing on earth.
I'm a peaceful man.
joe rogan
Right, but you're not supposed to pick civilian targets.
That's actually a war crime.
kid rock
You can't fight war like that.
joe rogan
But you're not supposed to pick civilian targets.
They are.
So that's where, like, the Mossad has been able to get into hospitals.
kid rock
They got trenches fucking underneath.
They got operation centers.
joe rogan
They killed those dudes the other day.
kid rock
And all we can do is go by the reporting.
Like, you know, I get it.
But at some point, you got to believe something, right?
joe rogan
No, I definitely do.
They definitely seem to be doing that.
But also, if you're a person who's born in Palestine, you're fucked.
You're under their control.
It's not your fault.
kid rock
By birth, you're fucked.
joe rogan
Yeah, but those aren't our enemy.
And the thing is, like, what you were saying, get them cell phones, get them the internet, get them armed.
If you get them armed, they're not going to really know how to use it, unless they're joining those military groups, and then they're also going to be indoctrinated at a young age by those groups, I would imagine, especially now with all the bombing that's been happening in Gaza.
kid rock
You just came full circle to my point.
joe rogan
I'm not opposed to what you're saying.
kid rock
There's no alternative.
joe rogan
I'm not saying that I'm opposed to what you're saying.
What I'm saying is that what you're saying could be taken as a callous thing, that it's just going to have to be how it is, that we have to kill women and children.
kid rock
I wish there was an alternative.
And I don't know everything on this, by the way.
joe rogan
I don't know everything on this either.
kid rock
I doubt they're sitting up in Congress going like, hey, we better listen real close to Kid Rock.
He's got this figured out.
joe rogan
I'm just not willing to accept that the only way human beings can resolve things in 2024 is to bomb each other out of existence.
kid rock
Oh, I wish...
Fuck, believe me.
joe rogan
It's just the whole thing is so fucked.
The whole Palestine-Israel thing is so fucked.
kid rock
If everybody in the world was willing to give up their fucking guns and weapons.
unidentified
Okay.
kid rock
Never going to fucking happen.
joe rogan
Well, no one would agree to that just because you're always going to need...
You're going to assume you're going to need to hunt things.
You're saying that you're going to let the animals just go wild?
Bears and deer overpopulate everywhere.
You're never going to kill any of them anymore?
kid rock
Did you see that one?
Fucking grab a fucker by the antlers.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you live near Moose, you better have a gun, bitch.
kid rock
Oh my God, they're fucking mean.
joe rogan
They will stomp you to death.
kid rock
Wow.
I got one in my hut in Montana.
It comes right up to the lodge.
Pretty cool, but...
joe rogan
You don't want to go outside where they're outside.
They'll stomp you to death.
kid rock
I've seen the videos.
joe rogan
Oh my God, I watched...
kid rock
Don't throw snowballs at the Moose.
joe rogan
I watched a snowboarder the other day just get stomped and it broke his leg.
kid rock
Did you see the one chasing him down the hill?
Is that the one?
joe rogan
No, the guy was like, he just walked up to it and it just starts stomping him.
It stomped him down and he couldn't get back up.
He's just getting rocked.
And no one wanted to jump in and help him.
They were afraid.
You know, he's getting stomped to death by his fucking moose.
They're the most aggressive of all the deer species.
They'll actually go after you.
If they think you're threatening, they don't want to.
But if they think you're encroaching in on their territory, they're like, I'm going to stomp this dude out.
They know how to fight.
kid rock
I'm gonna suck this dick.
joe rogan
alright bye bye *sniff* These are the special Texas cans, son.
Look at that.
We got Longhorns.
We got the Star.
We got both.
kid rock
Shane Gillis is getting you free Bud Lights.
joe rogan
I think we bought them.
We bought them, right?
Yeah.
I could have taken them from my club.
kid rock
Free shit kind of sucks.
joe rogan
Free shit's not as fun when you have money.
kid rock
There's nothing free about it.
joe rogan
The thing is it comes with...
Yeah.
You become friends with that person or influence.
Yeah.
kid rock
There's nothing free about it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It could get Weasley.
kid rock
I mean, unless you're talking like free Tesla Cybertruck.
joe rogan
Well, you're not even...
You're subjecting him to a review.
Right?
I mean, it's not just free.
kid rock
You're just thinking maybe I could bully him into a free one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think so, especially now that you said it.
kid rock
Yeah, damn.
joe rogan
The thing's amazing, though.
I haven't driven it, but I have a friend who has one.
He said he bought it just because he had one of the earlier number out of the lot, like number nine or something like that.
kid rock
The only thing I could see bad about driving around in a Cybertruck?
Telling your parents you're gay.
joe rogan
I knew something like that was coming.
I was just hoping it was going to be...
kid rock
Nah, I hate modern shit, and I fucking do something about that truck.
I like it.
joe rogan
It's a great truck.
kid rock
Have you driven one?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I haven't driven the Cybertruck, but I've driven electric cars.
I've driven the S. I've seen the Cybertruck in real life.
He brought it here, and I've seen a bunch of them on the road.
I think they look dope.
kid rock
He brought it here?
joe rogan
Yeah, he brought it here.
He parked it right back there.
It's cool.
I shot an arrow at it.
kid rock
You asked me to shoot a gun at it.
joe rogan
Because I didn't want to have a ricochet in a fucking garage.
Because it will bounce off.
kid rock
It's worth it.
joe rogan
If I had ear plugs, you know, if I had my ear gear, my eye gear, maybe I would have shot it.
But the point is, it can survive a.45 slug.
It's legit.
It's like folded steel.
It's thick as shit.
kid rock
I like it.
joe rogan
It's pretty dope.
kid rock
I like the idea of it.
Like I said, I'm done.
joe rogan
And it's an American car.
kid rock
I like a little American car.
joe rogan
That's me shooting at it.
kid rock
That's you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I shot at it, and it didn't even scratch it.
kid rock
What's with the Puerto Rico shirt?
joe rogan
It's a meme.
There was a dude who went to a game who looked exactly like me.
I mean, he looked exactly like me.
And the meme was like, Joe Rogan ain't being slick.
kid rock
That's pretty good.
joe rogan
And I saw that.
And I saw that.
I was like, oh my god, that guy looks exactly like me.
So I was him for Halloween.
So me and Elon did a podcast together.
Come on, bro.
That looks exactly like me.
How much does that guy look like me?
Does he look like me if I've been eating spaghetti for like a week?
kid rock
Tell me that's his real fucking hair.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's his real hair, but that was me.
kid rock
Tell me that- that can't- look at his eyebrows.
jamie vernon
That can't be- No, they were all wearing blonde wigs for a reason.
I looked it up at one point.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
It has to be a wig.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I got a similar wig.
kid rock
And this, kids, is why you just say no to weed.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's a fun thing to do.
But the point is, I didn't go through the...
I mean, I have an 80-pound bow.
kid rock
You draw 80?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I have a 90, too.
I have a 90, as well.
You don't need to draw more than fucking 30. That's not true.
Who told you that?
kid rock
Ted Nugent?
joe rogan
Yeah, Ted has a very...
kid rock
I'm not a bow hunter.
joe rogan
My girl is.
Ted is a legend, and I agree with him on almost everything, except...
kid rock
How far are you shooting a fucking whitetail?
Fucking 150 yards?
joe rogan
Okay, if you're shooting whitetails, but I'm shooting elk.
And also, I am of the opinion that 80 pounds to me is not the same as 80 pounds to someone who's not strong.
kid rock
True, I can't pull that.
joe rogan
It's a big difference.
kid rock
I can't pull fucking 80 pounds.
joe rogan
So when people say, like, oh, you pull 80 pounds, that's stupid.
I do 80 pounds hundreds of times a day.
I do it all the time.
It's not hard for me to pull 80 pounds.
So when someone says you pull 80 pounds, like, yeah, I shot 200 arrows.
Like, what's your point?
Like, if you have a hard time pulling 80 pounds, why are we pretending that we have the same body?
Why are we pretending we have the same physical strength?
This is dumb.
So if someone's saying, like, 70 pounds is all you need, Okay, but why not go to 50?
Why not go to 30?
Why not go to 20?
That's dumb.
Because at a certain point in time, you're going to lose speed, and you're not going to be able to penetrate correctly.
You're going to have less kinetic force on your arrow.
kid rock
It kind of goes with golf.
Like, in a hearty swing, the farther the ball goes.
But you don't have to swing hard.
You need to hit it straight and make good contact.
joe rogan
Right, but there's also a lot of people that believe that holding weight makes you more accurate.
And a heavier holding weight, when you're really locked in, you're more accurate.
I know guys who feel more accurate with an 80-pound bow than they do with a 50-pound bow or a 40-pound bow.
But it's all subjective, right?
That's all dependent upon your technique and how much you train in archery.
kid rock
I just- I train with a 300 Win Mag.
joe rogan
Yeah, look, okay.
Good example.
You don't shoot a 22. You shoot a 300 Win Mag.
Why?
Because you can.
kid rock
I'm not doing headshots.
joe rogan
That's true.
kid rock
17 cal headshot.
joe rogan
You're not doing headshots with a bow and arrow either.
When you're shooting something, you should have it as lethal as possible.
And so for me, I like a heavy arrow moving fast.
And really accurate.
And the best way to do that is to have heavier draw weight.
kid rock
I like to shoot my bow at targets and drink beer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
That just pisses me off when I'm out there and fucking something's out of range and I see it and I've been sitting out there.
I'm like, fuck that shit.
What about the adrenaline rush?
I'm like, get that every night on stage.
I'm like, I want fucking kill some shit and eat it.
joe rogan
Well, then you can just get it, sit over a feeder.
There's a lot of people that hunt in Texas like that.
They just put a stand over a feeder.
Yeah.
kid rock
I don't like to whitetail hunt anymore.
joe rogan
No?
kid rock
Nah, I don't need to be alone in the woods with my fucking thoughts for that fucking while I'm fucking bored.
I try to take some snacks, take a fucking nap.
I want to run the mountains to chase elk or birds, action, buddies there.
I don't like to be alone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a definitely...
I've done it before.
I did it with my friend John Dudley.
I did some tree stand whitetail hunting.
It's a different mental game.
Like, it's very hard to do.
And I think people don't understand how hard it is to do.
unidentified
What's the game?
kid rock
Fucking sit here and wait?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Sit there and keep your shit together while you don't move because maybe if you do, at one point in time, a giant buck's going to stroll through the trail.
kid rock
I hate that.
joe rogan
I get it.
I get it.
kid rock
We'd rather ride horseback, get off, or someone put some birds out.
We've got some pointers.
I've got a beer in my fucking case.
joe rogan
It's not for me.
kid rock
If I want to work, chase elk.
You know that's a lot of fucking work.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a lot of work.
kid rock
Getting to the elk, you know, once you spot them, and there's a lot of them, and you're picking out the big daddies, and then you've got to fucking figure out how to get to them.
unidentified
That could take fucking a couple days and fucking a lot of miles of fucking hiking.
joe rogan
It's difficult.
Everywhere you go to hunt, it's difficult if you're hunting elk.
Like, if they're wild, free-ranging elk, it's really hard.
kid rock
But I enjoy that.
joe rogan
The thing that's hard about whitetail hunting, though, is the mental game.
Just keeping your shit together in the stand all day.
kid rock
My girl will sit out there for seven hours.
She'll take a couple snacks in a tree stand with her fucking bow.
I'm like, you're fucking nuts.
joe rogan
People are dedicated to it.
They're dedicated to it because they're also learning from each other on how to set up trail cameras and how to set up scrapes.
kid rock
Pattern the deer.
joe rogan
Putting scent on trees and shit.
I'm fascinated by it.
I don't do it.
Yeah, they make the grunt noises.
They rattle.
I hunted some whitetails down in South Texas last year, but we did it...
kid rock
Well, Sav, too.
You're on a buggy, they put their feeder on, it goes...
joe rogan
No, we didn't do it that way.
We rattled them in.
They're real responsive to rattling in.
kid rock
During the run?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, it's crazy.
You rattle...
You clack some antlers together, and within 15 seconds, bucks were running straight towards you.
kid rock
South Texas is unbelievable.
joe rogan
It's crazy down there.
Yeah.
Crazy down there.
You could have anything.
You could have zebras and fucking...
kid rock
It's the only state, because I looked into it, because I was like, I should high-fence our place in Nashville.
Even just get some cool shit to look at, whether it's some stags or zebras or fucking, you know, whatever, water buffalo.
joe rogan
You can't do it?
Oh, you cramping again, bro?
unidentified
That didn't work.
joe rogan
Did it work?
Didn't work?
kid rock
I think it's from sitting in his fucking goddamn chair.
jamie vernon
Pinch your lip.
No, your tongue.
joe rogan
Oh, your lip?
jamie vernon
If it's your right leg, pinch the inside of your left lip or something like that.
I was reading it.
It says it's a thing.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had heard it was grab your tongue.
unidentified
I went to pinch my leg down here and almost grabbed my cock.
Whoa.
joe rogan
Easy.
What were we talking about?
So you couldn't high-fence your spot?
kid rock
Well, no, you can't.
In Texas, you can have any animal you want.
And, like, Tennessee and I think Alabama, too, can only be native to that state that you can have in there.
joe rogan
You know what's hilarious about Texas?
kid rock
Well, that's not true because Luke Bryan had some red stag on a property.
joe rogan
Maybe I was on the sneak tip.
kid rock
It's only certain things you can have, but you can't...
The more exotics, they're like, no.
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Like zebras and shit.
kid rock
I like you gotta fucking be honest here, because fucking homeboys over here are like, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, fucking fact.
joe rogan
He'll one-handed Google you.
kid rock
It's not like fucking fact-checking after the fact.
It's fact-checking in real time.
joe rogan
But wasn't Tiger King in Oklahoma?
Wasn't that where that was?
kid rock
Dude, speaking of Oklahoma, shout out to Jessie Jane, who passed away recently.
The porn star?
joe rogan
Yeah?
kid rock
I dated her for a while, way back in the day.
joe rogan
She passed away?
kid rock
She did.
Drug overdose, sadly.
But she was a beautiful girl.
Nice girl.
And I feel like people in my position wouldn't say that.
You know what I mean?
Because she had a lot of friends.
She was awesome.
I spent Christmas out there with her family, and her mother actually took care of baby tigers.
She worked at this tiger zoo.
This was years ago.
Her family couldn't have been cooler.
Her mom, her dad, her brother, grandparents.
Her son was young at the time.
She was a really nice girl.
I just wanted to say condolences to her family.
But she was involved with...
They had a baby tiger during Christmas at the house that she was taking care of.
It was the coolest thing.
joe rogan
You know one of the craziest ones?
Do you know Melanie Griffith when she grew up?
It was Melanie Griffith, right?
She grew up with lions.
jamie vernon
I think that's right.
unidentified
The movie we've been trying to watch a million times.
joe rogan
There's some crazy movie where they use real lions.
These people are getting caught up by lions.
Everybody on the set got hurt.
But I think Melanie Griffin grew up in a house with large cats.
jamie vernon
Yeah, she's in the movie, I think.
kid rock
Like lions?
joe rogan
Yeah, like lions.
And it was like their house.
There's photos of them with these lions in their house.
kid rock
I can't say I don't want a pet lion.
joe rogan
Yeah, but dude.
Like a monkey?
kid rock
Parrots?
jamie vernon
She got attacked by a lion during the movie.
joe rogan
She eventually recovered without being disfigured, although she did require some facial reconstructive.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Facial reconstruction.
jamie vernon
50 sutures.
joe rogan
50 sutures after being attacked by a lioness.
kid rock
What sutures?
joe rogan
It was fear that she would lose an eye.
But she eventually recovered without being disfigured, although she did require some facial reconstruction.
unidentified
Stitches.
kid rock
Stitches of sutures.
joe rogan
Sutures.
A lion jumped on John Marshall and bit the back of his head, inflicting a wound that required 56 sutures.
kid rock
When did people start calling them sutures?
Why did they say stitches?
joe rogan
They're just being technical.
See if you can get photos of Melanie Griffin with the lion.
The photos, because there's a website that documented it.
It's really weird.
Yeah, that's her house.
kid rock
Oh, I see it up here.
joe rogan
How weird is that, man?
That's her as a kid.
That's so insane.
They have lions like you have a dog.
That's so insane.
These things are so big!
And they were playing with them in the house and hoping that these things didn't fuck them up.
Look at this.
This is so crazy, dude.
Oh, this is the dumb movie where the thing's attacking people.
Look, it's being playful and they're trying to pretend that they're being attacked.
It's so dumb.
If that thing attacked you, it would be so quick and violent if it wanted to.
kid rock
Looks like a great movie if you still did hallucinogenics.
joe rogan
No, it'd probably freak you out.
It's supposed to be a terrible movie.
But it's just...
unidentified
Imagine growing up like that.
joe rogan
That's fucking insane.
kid rock
Talk about frosted flakes.
joe rogan
Growing up with lions.
jamie vernon
Oh, they're saying, we're listening to it, in this she is being attacked.
joe rogan
Oh, she really was?
jamie vernon
I guess she was saying the safe word and the director kept filming.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
kid rock
So they're trying to promote the movie.
joe rogan
So they didn't pull the line off?
Is that what they were supposed to do?
I guess.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
kid rock
Where's your smoke suckers in here?
joe rogan
They'll suck it out.
kid rock
No, where?
joe rogan
It's going up.
It's all through.
jamie vernon
They're up behind in there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Slick.
joe rogan
Yeah, bro.
kid rock
I like that.
This is what happens when you get a ton of fucking money for talking to people.
Smoke suckers.
joe rogan
If you want to do it this way.
Some people do it differently.
kid rock
I got the big ones in the studio like...
joe rogan
Oh, those are loud though.
Those will fuck with the conversation.
This is perfect.
kid rock
It's like just the amount of suck.
Worst thing you can have in a fucking recording studio.
joe rogan
Oh my god, right?
kid rock
Gotta do vocals like click, shut them off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, this is quiet.
kid rock
I couldn't afford the good ones.
joe rogan
Well, it's also there's like a lot of space above the room.
So you could set up your equipment.
Outside, so it doesn't make so much noise in here.
kid rock
Starlight ceiling?
unidentified
Look at you.
joe rogan
Yeah, bro.
unidentified
Look at you.
joe rogan
Good flying stars, too.
Shooting stars.
What does Kid Rock think about aliens?
You ever wonder about what the fuck's going on?
kid rock
Nah.
joe rogan
Not at all?
kid rock
No.
joe rogan
You see all the talk in the news and all the disclosure hearings?
kid rock
No.
I mean, I don't never click on the articles.
I'm like, I give a fuck.
joe rogan
That's good.
Until you have to know?
kid rock
Until someone's like, dude, he's with me, we're coming over.
joe rogan
Right.
kid rock
Like, eh.
joe rogan
That's a good way to, yeah, because you know how many people waste their time wanting it to be real, hoping it's real?
kid rock
I don't know.
joe rogan
Waste of time.
kid rock
I don't even know what to think about it.
I don't know if I want it to be real.
joe rogan
Well, you gotta imagine, as big as the universe is, that there's something out there.
And you've got to imagine, what if there's something out there that's just a thousand years more advanced than us?
Just a thousand.
A little blip, a little tiny amount of time.
Not that much time at all, really.
kid rock
There's something here like that.
He's called Elon Musk.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Imagine a whole planet filled with the successor to Elon.
You could easily imagine something would want to visit here.
And you could easily imagine that something exists.
kid rock
No, could you imagine if they didn't?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's crazy.
kid rock
That's even more crazy.
If they're like, fuck Disney World.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
Like, I don't go to that fucking stupid place.
Look what we got here.
That'd be like us going to Canada or Europe.
joe rogan
It would be a lot crazier than that.
kid rock
If they're like, yeah, I don't want to go to fucking that planet.
joe rogan
I think it'd be like us going to, like, some country and studying animals.
I don't think it would be...
I think it'd be like studying...
Literally like going and finding cave people that are Stone Age still and studying them.
kid rock
See, I'd rather go back in time and talk to those fuckers than talk to the people in front of us.
joe rogan
The people in front of us are probably not going to be people anymore.
kid rock
Because I can have more poignant questions.
joe rogan
The people in front of us are probably going to be integrated with technology.
Like permanently integrated.
That new guy that Elon Musk put the Neuralink in his head, he apparently can use his cursor.
He can actually search the internet and do a bunch of things just using his brain now.
So it's working.
kid rock
I just want to see if me and George Washington would be boys.
Would he be golfing like me and Trump, hanging out?
I have a lot of questions.
joe rogan
If you go to one place, where would you go?
If you had one shot, you can go back in time once and survive and come back to the future.
Where would you go?
kid rock
Jesus.
joe rogan
Jesus.
What if there was nobody there?
kid rock
Even better, I get them all myself?
Just me and Jesus?
joe rogan
No, I mean, what if Jesus wasn't there?
What if you go back and you're like, I just want to go see Jesus?
And you're like, okay, what time?
kid rock
He'd be there.
He'd probably like a DJ back then, fucking cutting his shit up.
He's there.
joe rogan
You think there's a real Jesus?
Definitely?
kid rock
Absolutely.
A thousand percent.
joe rogan
What makes you convinced?
kid rock
My faith.
unidentified
I mean, that's a good answer.
kid rock
Thank you.
joe rogan
I always wonder when people are telling stories, though.
Like, how long did that story take before people wrote it down?
How many times did people alter it, just like they do with everything today?
I've got to imagine that at a certain point in time in history, they probably didn't tell the truth about a lot of things.
And we take those things, tell them through oral traditions, have them written down.
kid rock
There's a difference between lies and between the truth getting, you know, manipulated and twisted a little bit.
The underlying usually is still there.
joe rogan
So you think the real truth was that he actually was the Son of God?
kid rock
Yes.
joe rogan
It would be amazing if it was true.
kid rock
It is amazing.
joe rogan
I believe you.
I believe that you believe that.
unidentified
Would you like to be introduced to Jesus?
joe rogan
Listen, I think the concept of Jesus is absolutely amazing.
If Jesus came here and wanted to visit me, I would be psyched.
kid rock
Would you like to know Jesus?
joe rogan
In what way?
kid rock
I can put my pastor on your show.
joe rogan
I'm good.
She's great.
kid rock
Pastor Paula White.
She's Trump's spiritual advisor, too.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
kid rock
You should have her on the show.
Talk about Jesus.
joe rogan
I'm very interested in the idea of Jesus being a real person.
But I look at it the same way I look at everything else.
Let's circle back.
kid rock
You told me that you believed in Bigfoot.
No, I was joking around.
joe rogan
I was joking around.
I was joking around.
But I wanted Bigfoot to be real, for sure.
Just like I want Jesus to be real.
He is?
Well, the thing Bigfoot used to be real.
The thing that I found out when I really got fascinated by Bigfoot.
kid rock
You know how you know Jesus is real right in this moment?
joe rogan
How?
kid rock
Because the forgiveness that I am exercising by drinking this Bud Light right now.
joe rogan
Oh, that's Jesus?
kid rock
That's Jesus.
Jesus is everywhere.
He's in his room.
He's in the world.
He's in the universe.
By the aliens that you...
Want so desperately to be real or have the concept of them being real?
That's Jesus.
That is Jesus.
As a Christian, I have to believe in forgiveness.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
Cheers.
Well said.
kid rock
I never thought I'd have to explain Jesus to drinking a fucking Bud Light.
joe rogan
You don't explain it.
You're saying how you feel.
kid rock
Jesus and God are everywhere.
They're everywhere.
Every time you look at a flower that blooms or you look at one of your children, you're like, that's Jesus.
That is Jesus.
That is God.
joe rogan
Yeah, I want to be real clear.
kid rock
I just saw a shooting star.
How fucking cool is that?
That's God going, bang!
Nailed it!
joe rogan
Sort of.
That's every 30 seconds.
kid rock
I haven't seen one all fucking interviewing.
I just happen to be speaking passionately about Jesus and God and that motherfucker went, whoop!
joe rogan
But that's how confirmation bias happens.
That's what makes people believe certain things.
Like that Jesus sent that suit.
That fucking star is on a...
Maybe you timed it right.
unidentified
That's Jesus.
joe rogan
It could be coincidental.
kid rock
That's Jesus.
joe rogan
I think he's probably super busy, and I would guide him if he can do miracles.
This is not the spot.
kid rock
Sam Kinison.
The greatest ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was the greatest ever.
One of them, for sure.
kid rock
When he went off on the Jesus shit.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ow, not my left hand!
unidentified
Ow, ow!
kid rock
What's that?
You've been gone with your 12 fuckhead friends who won't get a job.
This is day three of this shit.
12 losers!
Every one of them's using you.
You don't have sense enough to know it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where have you been?
Well, first of all, I was dead!
kid rock
He comes back.
After three days, Mrs. Jesus is like, I've had enough of this shit.
unidentified
Comes back looking all partied out, man.
Sam Kinison was my favorite fucking comedian.
joe rogan
Also, you gotta remember, Sam Kinison was doing that in 86. Oh, he was doing everything.
kid rock
Age jokes on gay people.
It's the funniest shit on earth.
joe rogan
Oh, he was an animal.
kid rock
If you kids out there fucking listening have not watched that Sam Kinison...
From Hollywood.
That's special.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kid rock
His first one.
joe rogan
I think it's called...
Breaking the Rules?
Yeah, is that what it's called?
Breaking the Rules?
kid rock
I think so.
joe rogan
It's either Breaking the Rules or Have You Seen Me Lately.
kid rock
No, it's not Have You Seen Me Lately.
It's got to be Breaking the Rules.
joe rogan
I think Have You Seen Me Lately is an album.
kid rock
It is the greatest comedy, and that's going to get some strong shit.
joe rogan
And Louder Than Hell, his cassette.
kid rock
No doubt, if Sam Kinison wouldn't have tragically passed away, we'd be rolling around together.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I saw him live a couple of times when I was a kid.
kid rock
Oh, I'm jealous.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got to see him two different places live.
kid rock
Rodney put him on.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
kid rock
One of our favorites, too.
joe rogan
Rodney's one of the greatest.
In our green room at the club, we have handwritten notes from Rodney's last Tonight Show special.
So it's all his bits laid out and his topics he was going to bring up on the couch.
kid rock
I'm going to start making trips down here.
We always look for fun trips, grab friends, come in, have dinner, see comedy.
joe rogan
Oh, come on down, man.
Come on down.
I'll tell you a night when Shane's going to be up and...
Brian Simpson's here.
We've got a great crew of people.
Ron White's here.
He's here all the time.
We've got a great crew of people.
kid rock
Ron, last time I was golfing with him, he's like, I quit drinking, man.
I'm like, oh, you know, Bob will meet him and daily out.
He's like, but I'm hiring fucking mushrooms.
joe rogan
Yeah, he didn't quit getting fucked up.
He was drinking too much.
It was hurting him.
Well, listen, brother, I'm glad we sat down and we did this.
It was a lot of fun talking to you.
kid rock
Yeah, thank you for having me.
joe rogan
Thank you as well.
I always enjoy your company and you're just a fun guy to be around, man.
kid rock
Ditto, man.
joe rogan
Glad we got a chance to do this.
kid rock
Congrats again on your success, man.
joe rogan
Thank you, brother.
And same to you.
Same to you.
I love the fact that you're so completely independent.
You know, you got your fans, you do your shows, you don't need nobody.
kid rock
I live in this little world right here.
joe rogan
But you got it nailed.
You're the king of that world.
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Thank you.
joe rogan
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
kid rock
God bless you.
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