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Nov. 10, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2061 - Whitney Cummings
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
whitney cummings
Like, could that abuse labor?
Getting in a cold plunge?
Eight months pregnant?
joe rogan
Ask Jamie.
unidentified
He would know.
whitney cummings
Jamie?
Get on that.
I'm sure there's a Reddit forum for that.
jamie vernon
Last time I tried.
whitney cummings
Last night with those smelling salts, people doing the smelling salts, I was like, if I even inhale that, I feel like I'm going to start crowning.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's very funny how those smelling salts have made their way from the studio to now at the club.
Everybody's doing smelling salts.
whitney cummings
Between the kratom and the smelly salts.
I'm like...
joe rogan
You gotta keep the Kratom away from Duncan.
That motherfucker drinks cases of that stuff.
whitney cummings
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
We get there.
whitney cummings
And is Kratom naturally occurring?
It's like a...
joe rogan
It's a plant.
unidentified
Plant?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That stuff is Live Free or whatever it's called.
What are those things called, Jamie?
whitney cummings
Hmm.
joe rogan
What is it called?
Live Free?
whitney cummings
That's the brand?
joe rogan
I don't know.
But they used to have them at like...
Sun Life, you know that place?
whitney cummings
Organics?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But then, you know, you're not supposed to drink.
They're that big.
whitney cummings
Okay.
joe rogan
And you're supposed to drink a half a bottle.
whitney cummings
Okay.
joe rogan
But they're not clear.
So you have to kind of like hold it up to the light to see where half is.
You get to guess like what half is.
And a lot of people were just drinking the whole thing and they were getting fucked up.
whitney cummings
Yeah, there was a time when you were out of town and I was at the mothership and everyone was doing like four or five things.
unidentified
I was like, you guys, when Joe leaves, we can't all just get addicted to drugs.
whitney cummings
When you're out of town, it is a little different up there.
joe rogan
Well, it's kind of an opiate.
I don't know.
What exactly is kratom?
And it's legal?
whitney cummings
It's legal?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's legal.
Totally.
I had a guy that was on my podcast once that used to be an opiate addict, and then he started taking kratom.
And they were selling it as pills.
And he said, well, if you take a small amount of it, it actually acts as like a stimulant, but if you take a larger amount of it, it's a different effect.
I said, how many do you take?
He says, I take 10. I go, you take 10?
He goes, I take 10 before I work out.
I'm like, okay, I'll try it.
So I took 10. And I was high as fuck.
It's a weird high.
Because it's like, I felt like...
You know, I'm pretty aware of my body, so I'm like, my motor skills feel perfect.
I don't feel like anything's wrong.
I feel like I could go do stuff.
I'm not like drunk or anything like that.
I go, but I'm definitely affected.
So what is this?
Would this affect judgment?
Would this affect your reaction time?
I shouldn't drive like this.
whitney cummings
But pain tolerance down, that's probably good for working out.
joe rogan
I guess.
Is it though?
whitney cummings
I did kind of used to like to smoke weed and work out.
I like smoking weed and working out.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, smoking weed and working out makes me feel like I know what my muscles are doing.
whitney cummings
Yeah, you like feel every, focusing more.
joe rogan
Fibers and shit.
You know what it's really good for?
Technique.
Like when you learn martial arts technique, like there's certain things about like kicking a bag in particular.
When I haven't smoked weed, I mean, I've been doing it my whole life, so I know how to do it.
But then, if I smoke weed, I feel like where the little leverage points are.
I feel like where the torque comes in.
I feel the weight distribution.
It's like you're more sensitive.
whitney cummings
Just more present in your body.
joe rogan
It makes you so much better at pool.
It makes my pool game like, yeah, like there's a term in pool like a ball.
Like say if we were playing nine ball and you were better than me, you would give me the eight ball.
That means like it's a big advantage to have the eight ball.
That means I don't just win by winning by making the nine ball.
I can make the nine ball or the eight ball.
So that's like it gives you a ball.
That means so like when I smoke pot, I'm one ball better.
Legitimately.
I'm like 10% better.
Easily.
Maybe more.
whitney cummings
Is there any in pool shade on taking Adderall or smoking weed?
No one cares?
joe rogan
Yeah, people talk shit about you, but they all do it.
Pool players are notorious drug addicts.
whitney cummings
Cocaine's probably great for pool.
joe rogan
There's I've met more I didn't even know drugs I didn't really understand drug culture when I started hanging around in pool halls Because I had gone from being a fighter to being a comedian So in fighting there's no drinking no partying no nothing all throughout high school.
I was like very rarely did I imbibe in anything I was all just about competition and then I started hanging out with comedians and And the ones that were doing drugs, God, their life was falling apart.
And then I started hanging out in this pool hall, and they were all doing drugs.
Everybody was doing something.
There was guys doing heroin.
There were crack addicts.
One of my best friends was a crack addict.
whitney cummings
Have you seen this video where Boozy the rapper is endorsing crack over fentanyl?
Have you seen...
Dude, it's so...
joe rogan
Oh, it's a good point.
Crackheads live...
whitney cummings
He's like, my crackhead friends I've known for 20 years.
He's like, they're around, they can do anything, they have powers, and then...
joe rogan
Well, you know, crack is just cocaine.
It's just another way...
unidentified
And he just cooked...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's freebasing cocaine.
And the scary thing is, even though we know that, it's one of the most racist laws that's ever been enacted, where the difference between the sentencing for someone who gets caught with crack versus someone who gets caught with an equivalent amount of cocaine, it's like a giant disparity.
jamie vernon
Did Deion Sanders say this too?
whitney cummings
Oh, I don't know who that is.
Boozy.
unidentified
B-O-S-I. No, my cousin June Bull.
He was a crackhead and a good dude, though.
But he was very athletic because he was still stuck when I came home from college and couldn't ever catch him.
Couldn't ever catch him.
And he was selling.
And I would have to go get it back at the hood from the drug dealers.
He was probably the most athletic, my cousin June Bull.
But next to that, I think it was both.
joe rogan
Imagine there's some dude out there, Junebug the crackhead, that's more athletic than a guy who's widely regarded as being one of the most athletic humans that's ever lived.
whitney cummings
And then, the boozy one is...
joe rogan
But Junebug's more athletic than Bo Jackson!
What the fuck?
whitney cummings
Junebug the Bert Kreischer of the hood.
joe rogan
There was this dude I've talked about many times, but his name was Water Dog.
That was his nickname.
Or they would call him Buffalo Bill.
And he was this pool player and he would do heroin.
So he would go into the bathroom and shut the door and he'd be in there for 20 minutes and everybody knew what he was doing.
And then he'd go out and he'd sit on a bar stool like this.
With his hands in front of him like a bird.
whitney cummings
T-Rex, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and just like this.
And he would sit there for like 20 minutes.
And then he would get down, and he had like gerbil eyes, like black eyes, and he couldn't miss.
He would play pool, he just wouldn't miss.
whitney cummings
Like he knew how much time he needed for it to calibrate and then...
joe rogan
He was so accurate.
It was stunning.
He had no nerves.
whitney cummings
That's wild.
joe rogan
He didn't feel anything.
Because Poole is gambling.
The reason why it's called Poole, it's Pocket Billiards is the name of the game, but Poole is pooling money together to gamble.
So like the real pool players, almost all of them gambled.
whitney cummings
And takes away inhibition, so you're not...
joe rogan
He had no fear.
He had no nerves.
He would just fire these balls into the hole in this really tight-pocketed table playing for like $10,000.
And I was like, this is nuts!
whitney cummings
I wonder what it's...
I've never done heroin.
Must be pretty awesome if people are trading their kids for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got morphine when I had my knee surgery once.
By the way, if you hear me and I sound funny, ladies and gentlemen, I just got out.
unidentified
I just got out.
joe rogan
So if I sound like I'm on heroin, I'm just cold.
I want to do it.
What was I saying?
whitney cummings
Doing heroin takes all your fears away.
When you did methadone?
joe rogan
Oh, yes.
I wonder what that's like.
I wonder what methadone's like in comparison to...
whitney cummings
Isn't methadone basically Adderall?
Like, we've done Adderall.
joe rogan
I think it's like a kind of an opiate, but it doesn't get you high.
It just makes you stupid.
I don't know.
whitney cummings
We can go to San Francisco and get some.
I think you can just walk in now.
joe rogan
It's pretty easy.
You don't even have to have a prescription.
I had a knee surgery when I was in the hospital.
They had me on a morphine drip.
And apparently, this is in the 90s, I don't know if they'd still do this, but you could hit a button And when you hit a button, you would get more morphine.
And it was wonderful.
It was wonderful.
whitney cummings
Have we ever done fentanyl, like, at the doctor?
Like, if I've gotten a surgery, have I done fentanyl?
Or is that propofol?
joe rogan
Propofol.
Propofol is the stuff that puts you under.
Fentanyl is a prescription drug, though.
They give people fentanyl patches.
Uh-huh.
There's prescription, it's just so strong.
What is it, like a hundred times stronger than heroin or something?
jamie vernon
Do you want to see the boozy?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings
It's so epic.
unidentified
People, just stop taking fentanyl and go back to crack.
Crack.
I'm promoting it.
Fitting all, killing all the junkers who've been junkers.
I'm telling you, it's killing the junkers who've been junkers for...
Forever.
Yes.
Soon as they hit it, they dig.
Right.
Crackhead, this nigga shoot threes.
This nigga shoot basketball.
This nigga run a hundred miles.
This nigga get sane.
This nigga fix your car motor.
Been doing this for 20 years.
This motherfucker still running around the neighborhood.
When have you ever heard crackheads hitting the pipe and dying the first time?
Never.
Never!
This spitting off shit is different.
joe rogan
I would much rather crack.
I would much rather, much rather crack.
He's making logical sense.
unidentified
I've been seeing my crackhead people for 30 years.
True.
This nigga hit fentanyl two times.
He's gone.
You never see him again.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
I promote crack before fentanyl.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Right.
And you know something?
All right.
joe rogan
He's right.
But by the way, he's saying that and he looks fabulous.
whitney cummings
He says they have power.
unidentified
Anything, bro.
And they're still smoking crack and they're still together.
They can do anything, bro.
Crackhead, bro.
Whatever was in crack, they gave him a real power.
Did you ever see the video of the crackhead?
No, I ain't seen it.
He goes, you ever seen the video of the Kraken with the kangaroo?
joe rogan
Covered in diamonds, designer sunglasses on, multicolored puma.
whitney cummings
Kraken was not killing people the same way.
joe rogan
He's right.
He's 100% right.
He's 100% right.
Yeah, my friend Johnny, he didn't die from Kraken.
My friend who was a Kraken, he died from heroin.
He wound up getting on pills.
He died from opiates.
whitney cummings
I told you about what happened when I had a raccoon in my yard.
joe rogan
You've got Guatemalans trying to sneak over the fence.
Didn't you have the fucking people casing your house?
whitney cummings
The Chilean Mafia.
joe rogan
The Chilean Mafia, that's right.
whitney cummings
So the only people cleaning up homeless people now in LA are Scientology and the Chilean Mafia.
And the Chilean Mafia basically takes homeless people, gives them a BMX bike, Gives them like an outfit some and yeah, I sent you the video of them casing my house because they were robbing people in Brentwood and Santa Monica.
Yeah, causing all kinds of shit.
joe rogan
Yes, they're well known.
It's like a well-known organization.
whitney cummings
Nobody cares.
joe rogan
Scientology takes them in.
whitney cummings
That's what I'm hearing.
joe rogan
That's a smart move.
whitney cummings
Super smart.
joe rogan
That's like wild wild country.
Remember wild wild country?
whitney cummings
They took all the homeless people so that they could win the election.
Smart as shit.
joe rogan
And then after they were done, they're like, yeah, we're done with you.
whitney cummings
And they were putting the beavers in blenders, remember?
And they were, like, putting beavers in blenders.
joe rogan
Beavers in blenders?
whitney cummings
Yeah, didn't they?
In Wild Wild Country, they were putting, like, squirrels in beavers in blenders and stuff to make everybody sick so that they wouldn't vote.
joe rogan
Oh, well, they poisoned people.
whitney cummings
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
They went to the salad bar.
unidentified
God!
joe rogan
That's right.
whitney cummings
And put bacteria so people had such bad diarrhea they didn't go vote.
joe rogan
That was that Sheila lady.
whitney cummings
Sheila.
joe rogan
She was scary!
unidentified
That bitch is scary!
whitney cummings
I would not fuck with her.
joe rogan
That was scary.
unidentified
Tough titties, wasn't it that?
whitney cummings
So I have this raccoon in my yard and it's acting really weird and I'm poking at it.
Because the way they sleep is they just sort of bend over a branch or whatever.
But I was poking at it.
It wasn't moving.
It wasn't behaving like a raccoon.
And so I call animal control.
This is like the most California fucking response.
I'm like, I have this raccoon in my tree.
And she's like, yeah, that's where they live.
I'm like, yeah, no, this is where I live, bitch.
It's sick.
Something's wrong with it.
Last thing I need is a fucking coyote eating it.
And then we have rabid coyotes.
I already have to deal with that shit.
And she goes, well, a lot of the wild animals in California are acting really weird right now because people are testing their cocaine for fentanyl.
And if it tests positive, they flush it down the toilet.
So there's fentanyl in the water.
So the coyotes and raccoons are acting really weird.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
That's what she said?
whitney cummings
I was like, if you're telling me there's fentanyl coyotes, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
What about people?
Do people get that water?
Where's that water going?
whitney cummings
I mean, they already probably...
joe rogan
Does that mean that wastewater from a toilet flushing goes out into the streets?
What is this, Rome?
whitney cummings
Probably.
joe rogan
This is how they started the Black Plague.
whitney cummings
Headed for the same fate, it seems.
joe rogan
Well, that's what started a lot of the plagues.
Like, people had terrible hygiene back there, terrible sanitation.
whitney cummings
Crazy.
joe rogan
There's a book called Dissolving Illusions, and it's about...
The invention of vaccines and the conditions that people lived in.
In the early 1900s in major cities, you don't think about it, but if people didn't have trucks, because trucks didn't exist, How did they shit?
How'd they get their food?
Well, guess what?
They didn't.
They didn't get good food.
So they didn't get any fresh vegetables.
No one's getting any vitamins.
And everywhere is like an open sewer.
They had these equivalent to large outhouses on these blocks.
unidentified
And it's just horrible sanitation.
whitney cummings
Horses shit eight times a day.
They're walking through horse shit.
That mud was all shit.
joe rogan
But that's probably the most sanitary shit they're walking through because horses are just eating grass.
But humans, we're eating meat and all kinds of other stuff and it's fucking coming out of your ass.
Dog shit smells so much worse than deer shit.
Deer shit doesn't smell like anything.
It smells like nothing because they just eat grass.
They eat grass, they shit grass.
It's like just grass going through their digestive system.
unidentified
But dog shit's just like, what did you eat, Sally?
Sally's over there eating dead raccoons and squirrels.
whitney cummings
People used to die of just dysentery.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings
If you had one cut and walked down the street, you're just...
joe rogan
Well, how about staph infections?
People almost die of staph...
Well, they probably do die of staph infections today if they don't get taken care of.
But staph infections are scary as shit.
And people have always got those.
You'd just get cut and you'd get infected.
whitney cummings
It's wild.
I mean, it's like, yeah, with all these, like, sort of issues now with depression and anxiety, back then you had such real things to worry about.
Like, how do I get home without getting covered in shit, without getting dysentery?
There was no time to be depressed.
There was no time.
That was the only thing to be anxious about.
joe rogan
Well, you were always vulnerable.
I mean, think about all the times when you were a kid where you got hurt.
Like, when I was a kid, I broke my arm once, you know, you fall down, you gotta go to the doctor, you get this, that.
Back then, kids just died.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
They just died.
You get a broken leg, you're dead.
unidentified
That was it.
whitney cummings
But also, I'm fascinated, because, you know, I'm about to have a kid, and I want to make sure he has a little adversity, you know?
And, like, I was with a friend of mine at the playgrounds now, they're, like, rubbery, and they're all made of plastic and shit.
Like, when's the last time you saw a kid in a cast?
joe rogan
That's true.
I see them occasionally.
whitney cummings
Every kid's in Texas, so kids do normal shit.
There used to be a cast with a metal bar when I was in school.
It was a metal bar.
joe rogan
They go to your hip.
whitney cummings
We spent the first 45 minutes of school signing casts.
Everyone was in a cast when we were kids.
Remember the seesaws are gone?
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Slides used to be made of sheet metal.
They're like plastic.
Do you remember there was like a chain, like a pirate ship chain we would climb up?
Oh, yeah.
Tetanus getting pinched.
joe rogan
Seesaws.
whitney cummings
Dude, what was more dangerous than a seesaw?
joe rogan
You flick it up in the air and your fat friend jumps on the top of it and you go flying.
whitney cummings
You were always the asshole.
You'd just be on the bottom and wait and then step off it and just watch them careen to the ground.
Dude, we used to play bloody knuckles all day.
Like we would just punch each other in the knuckle.
We would just be bleeding at all times.
joe rogan
How about those things that spin around where you spin your friends around as fast as possible?
You know, the ones where you're like hanging on.
It's just a wheel.
It's not really a merry-go-round.
It's much smaller.
But you'd be spinning that motherfucker and you'd grab your friend and you'd try to literally make him fly off of it.
whitney cummings
Just a lazy Susan for pedophiles.
Kids in the park.
I would get stuck under.
You'd get under the merry-go-round.
Remember the jungle gym?
It was like scaffolding, basically.
Hang upside down with no ability to...
joe rogan
Under concrete.
whitney cummings
We used to play in tires.
We would just get in a tire and roll down a hill.
That was just a game.
joe rogan
Normal shit.
whitney cummings
We did play on concrete.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And there was like little, it was just like a construction site is basically what we used to play on.
joe rogan
Yeah, kids today, unless you live in a terrible neighborhood, that's not generally the case.
whitney cummings
No.
It's like mushy now, although I was...
joe rogan
But isn't that smart?
whitney cummings
I know, we're like, let's go back to how it was.
joe rogan
We don't want these kids to get hurt.
jamie vernon
Did you see this video a couple months ago where this cop goes down the slide at an enormously fast speed?
whitney cummings
Oh, I think I did.
unidentified
No.
jamie vernon
It doesn't make sense how he gets to speed.
So you see the slide right here.
I'll play it real fast.
But it doesn't make sense how he gets going this fast.
joe rogan
Let's see.
whitney cummings
Is he going to get hurt?
jamie vernon
I mean, he probably did.
unidentified
Oh!
whitney cummings
Jesus!
jamie vernon
He's flying down the slide.
joe rogan
Backwards.
jamie vernon
Face first.
joe rogan
Well, that's a really dumb way to do it, first of all.
unidentified
Jesus!
jamie vernon
It's crazy.
whitney cummings
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
Why did he do it belly down?
That just seems like...
jamie vernon
The whole thing doesn't make sense.
whitney cummings
That's like an ad for Kratom?
I don't know.
He seemed like he wasn't totally conscious when he came out.
joe rogan
Not a lot of people want to be cops these days.
It's a tough job.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes he's not getting the best and the brightest.
whitney cummings
It's kind of true.
joe rogan
Why is he fucking on duty?
What if he breaks a leg?
What if he broke his ankle flying out of that fucking thing?
whitney cummings
Worker's comps.
joe rogan
Does he even get worker's comp for that?
whitney cummings
No, no, no.
Sorry, dude.
But it is wild, I think, how much more physically we used to have to contend with.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can get your kid into jiu-jitsu.
Yeah, for sure.
Your kid can 100% experience adversity under controlled circumstances, which is probably way better anyway.
whitney cummings
And even tolerate boredom.
My mom used to say, go out and play.
Entertain yourself.
I mean, go out and play.
Come back before dark.
Is that illegal now?
joe rogan
You could do it in certain neighborhoods.
You could do it more here than you can in other places.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But yeah, it's not like people don't do that anymore.
whitney cummings
You would just fuck around and find out.
You would just put your finger in a light socket all day.
joe rogan
Well, we just, I don't think parents knew as much and I don't think there was as much of a fear of predators.
You know, like I have a friend who his kid almost got kidnapped.
He's at a park and he had looked down or wasn't paying attention for I don't know how long looking at his phone and then he looks up and there's a guy who's like reaching for his son's hand and taking him towards a van.
whitney cummings
Why is it always a van?
joe rogan
Because that's the best way to carry someone around.
You open the door real quick, throw them in, shut the door.
Also, there's no windows.
And he fucking runs over and stops it before it happens, but he was so freaked out.
What if he didn't look up from his phone?
The kids are playing around with other kids, and you get bored, and you just start looking at your phone.
What if he didn't?
whitney cummings
I had that stupid nude leak thing happen, so I have this IT guy who's explaining to me, I'm like, what's the hygiene for kids on Instagram?
I probably just won't put him on Instagram, I don't know.
But he was like, the way that predators pick up kids now is they basically just collect information from the parents' Instagram, right?
Like, you're at Disneyland with your kid, and then you got strawberry ice cream with your kid, and then you went to Universal Studios with your kid.
Some creep pedophile goes up to the kid and goes, Oh, hey, Johnny, right?
I'm Mark.
I met you at Disneyland.
Remember?
We got the strawberry ice cream.
joe rogan
Oh, jeez.
whitney cummings
And then we went to Universal Studios.
Your dad told me to come pick you up.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
whitney cummings
So that's how they just collect information.
And then it's probably easy to talk a kid with all those details into getting to a car.
I know.
joe rogan
I saw a hit and run last night.
Did I tell you about this?
whitney cummings
At the club?
joe rogan
Guy was running from the cops.
Guy was high-speed pursuit from the cops.
Two cars in front of us.
whitney cummings
I didn't realize you saw it in person.
I thought you saw it online.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
whitney cummings
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
I saw the whole thing.
So I didn't know that he was running from the cops.
I just see this car flying at the intersection and T-bone this other car.
He's trying to make it.
He tries to hit the turn.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
I mean, fast.
And then opens the door and runs.
So the dude who t-boned the guy jumps out of his car at a full sprint, full sprint across the street.
And me and the guy I was with were like, he's probably drunk.
Like he's probably realized he fucked up and he's drunk and he's trying to run away from the scene of the crime.
And then they tackle them.
Some citizens got them.
And so we hear, they got them, we got them, we got them.
whitney cummings
I wouldn't want Texas citizens getting me.
They're more armed than most police officers here, dude.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, it's the lakes.
Everybody's running around out there.
It's like, it's fit, because it's right over by Lady Bird Lake.
So this guy apparently was in a high-speed chase from the police and just slammed right into a car.
I mean, easily could have been us.
It was two cars in front of us.
whitney cummings
That's fucking...
joe rogan
But it was BOOM! I don't think I've ever seen in person someone hit a guy with a car that hard, like up close.
whitney cummings
And it went into the passenger side?
joe rogan
Oh, just smushed the side of this car.
This car went flying.
The one car, it goes flying up in the air.
And the other car goes flying to the side.
And then, boom, the car falls down.
And the moment it falls down, the dude opens the door.
whitney cummings
He's out.
unidentified
He starts running.
joe rogan
And he was dressed like he just got done playing golf.
It was so weird to see.
He's, like, wearing, like, a golf shirt.
whitney cummings
I love that his first instinct was not just fucking running.
What did he do wrong?
joe rogan
He probably had a warrant out for his arrest or something.
It was probably something.
Because if he's running from the cops, something was going on.
whitney cummings
When you see that shit real up close, it always blows my mind.
Like, when I first moved to LA, I lived right above Ari on Miller Drive, above Pink Dot, so that I could be close to the Comedy Store.
And there's that intersection there, Sunset and La Cienega, and there's all these, you know...
And both people trying to take lefts are always trying to, you know, cheat the yellow light.
And I'm at the northern part of the intersection, and a motorcycle is coming down Sunset, fast as shit, and then someone's trying to take the left...
When I tell you, I've been in LA five days.
I'm like, I'm gonna be a comedian.
I'm in front of Pink Dot.
I see this car hit the motorcycle.
The guy goes up into the air.
I mean, it must have been 50 feet in the air.
His shoes come off.
I guess that's the thing when you get hit by a car.
Your shoes come off, which is wild.
And then comes down head first.
Because your head is the heaviest.
And I mean, it was so disturbing.
Head broke off his body.
I mean, just head off body.
And then shoes were like 50 feet away from him.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very dead.
unidentified
The deadest.
whitney cummings
Like when you see that, you're like, I feel like that's how it would have gone in a Michael Bay movie or I don't know, that just feels a little wild when you actually see it up close.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
You know, like the sounds, the crunching, the thuds, you're like, oh, that's just a body.
joe rogan
The thing is, it's kind of extraordinary.
How little car accidents we have.
When you think about how many people are just so distracted and how crazy the act of getting onto this concrete surface with this thing that's rolling around with a combustion engine and you're just letting normal people drive them around.
whitney cummings
It's kind of a miracle how cooperative we all are.
It is kind of weird.
joe rogan
It's kind of weird.
whitney cummings
But the stakes are so high.
I mean, in terms of having to pay for it.
I got in enough car accidents in my 20s that I was like, I don't have that kind of money.
It's like, it's too much of a hassle.
joe rogan
Well, it's just sketchy.
You're relying on other people.
And every now and then there's one guy that's got to get there on time.
He's fucking cutting in front of everybody.
And you watch him.
You're like, oh, look at this guy in the pickup truck.
Jesus Christ.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
I was thinking because, like, you can see so much carnage online now.
Like, in my algorithm, I guess, I don't know, enough comedians sent me videos of people getting murdered and shit.
joe rogan
My algorithm is terrible.
whitney cummings
It's just like butts and like car accidents and how the Disney castles are made of dicks.
joe rogan
Is that from Tripoli?
whitney cummings
Did you know that Tripoli has 12 podcasts?
unidentified
Yeah, at least.
whitney cummings
I'm going to give birth, oh no.
And so, yeah, so Tripoli sends me all this stuff.
But yeah, I mean, the Disney Castle's being made of dicks.
It is a compelling case, but I think it was probably more that they didn't pay their animators, and the animators were like, fuck you guys, we're just going to make the, you know.
joe rogan
I'm not totally aware of that one.
I think, I don't remember it.
Let's pull that one up.
whitney cummings
Oh, Disney Castle's made of dicks.
Let's go.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of wild stuff from the old Disney stuff.
You go back in the old, old Disney, you guys should probably bury this.
whitney cummings
Brutal!
I know.
You might want to take the obviously Jewish person's nose down a little bit.
joe rogan
There was one where there was a, it was like a big bad wolf one and it used to be a Jewish person.
And then they switch it to a wolf later.
whitney cummings
Like, what?
And it's like cheap.
It won't pay the price for the baguette for the Little Red Riding Hood.
You're like, what?
I think it's the Little Mermaid, the Spears looking like dicks.
I think they probably just didn't pay their animators.
And the animators were like, all right, we're just going to make everything look like a dick.
joe rogan
Some people do see dicks in everything, though.
whitney cummings
It is kind of a Borschach test.
joe rogan
That's a thing, yeah.
whitney cummings
Maybe I'm one of those people.
Then there's also Mickey and Minnie, like one of her bows.
unidentified
It does kind of look like a dick going right for her mouth.
whitney cummings
It feels like a disgruntled employee.
joe rogan
Hmm.
whitney cummings
What?
jamie vernon
The video you posted got taken down.
I was just going to play that one.
whitney cummings
Oh, I posted?
Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon
It's been removed.
whitney cummings
Uh-oh.
joe rogan
Which one was that one?
jamie vernon
About this, on this topic.
joe rogan
On the dicks?
jamie vernon
She has a video.
I was just going to use that as an example, but it's been taken down.
whitney cummings
They take all my stuff down now.
jamie vernon
Here's some interesting stuff I just found, though.
joe rogan
Marshmallow cannon?
whitney cummings
What?
jamie vernon
Hold on.
Okay.
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
Oh, what?
Okay.
That's 100% a dick squirting marshmallows on a little mouse.
It just gizzed all over this mouse.
whitney cummings
It's that.
It's like...
joe rogan
Okay.
That's a dick.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
That's 100% a dick.
Look at the balls at the bottom of it.
That's not a coincidence.
whitney cummings
I didn't even notice the balls.
joe rogan
That is not a coincidence.
That's 100% a dick.
whitney cummings
Look up the Minnie and Mickey Mouse.
That one is the one that really kind of put me over the edge.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's someone being sneaky and putting in like a little Easter egg.
whitney cummings
Yeah, they didn't get paid overtime.
joe rogan
That's a dick.
whitney cummings
Yeah, and now the animators are trying to unionize.
I'd be shocked if they succeed.
They're probably just going to have AI do it.
You could also just go to images.
joe rogan
The thing is, AI is so good now.
Like, these animators are on shaky ground.
whitney cummings
Yes, correct.
joe rogan
What happened with the actor strike?
Did they settle that?
Is that over?
whitney cummings
Yeah, they settled it.
Oh, do Minnie and Mickey dicks.
joe rogan
Minnie and Mickey Dicks.
whitney cummings
Oh, it's right there.
Go to the one, two, three, four, like six over on the top.
Yeah.
One more over, sorry.
That one, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ!
whitney cummings
That's her dress.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
whitney cummings
I know.
joe rogan
Okay.
whitney cummings
It's a little wild.
joe rogan
Come on.
whitney cummings
I mean, maybe...
joe rogan
That's insane.
And he's got his hand on her dick.
She's got a giant heart on.
That is 100% a heart on.
That doesn't even make sense as a dress.
whitney cummings
Just going straight into his mouth.
joe rogan
Just try to imagine that as a dress.
It doesn't even make sense.
whitney cummings
Yeah, like, where's her arm?
Oh, it's around his neck.
joe rogan
Who cares?
It doesn't make sense.
whitney cummings
I know.
joe rogan
Where's her right arm?
whitney cummings
It's a hard one to defend.
joe rogan
Oh, they're both around there.
jamie vernon
She's hugging him.
joe rogan
And that's her shoulder, supposedly.
Okay, kind of.
Kind of.
whitney cummings
It's a tough one.
joe rogan
That's a dick.
It's way more of a dick than it is her arm around his shoulder.
You know, if it's one of two things, that looks so much like it.
And his hand's on it.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Like he's stroking it.
whitney cummings
And also the little lines.
I don't know.
jamie vernon
Does she always have a puffy shoulder shirt on like that?
Is that consistent?
whitney cummings
Not like that.
And then it's also like the little ridge on the top.
It doesn't feel necessary.
joe rogan
It's a dick.
That's definitely a dick.
whitney cummings
Oh no.
joe rogan
That's 100% a dick.
whitney cummings
Oh no.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
I'm going to get a dart in my neck any minute.
Disney's going to get us.
joe rogan
They're already in trouble.
They fucked up.
They went too far.
You were telling us about the South Park thing.
whitney cummings
Oh my god, dude.
Jamie, have you seen the new South Park?
jamie vernon
I definitely saw clips of it.
whitney cummings
It is so funny.
First of all, Cartman has been replaced by a black trans woman.
unidentified
In the ulterior universe or whatever.
whitney cummings
And the whole thing, really incisive commentary.
Obviously, they always do such a good job with this.
joe rogan
It's the Pandiverse, which is hilarious.
It's such a great name.
whitney cummings
All the handymen are the richest people.
Because no men know how to do anything anymore because they went to college.
So it's all about how college has made us stupid.
And we need handymen to do everything now because we're using Siri and whatever.
So there's the handyman bought Instagram and now is like going to space because he's just a billionaire.
And then Cartman is, is it Catherine Kennedy who runs Disney?
But ran Lucasfilm and whatever.
And her whole thing is just make it, make it a girl and make her gay.
Make it a girl and make her gay.
For every movie they're bitching.
And she gets, like, served food at a restaurant, and she's like, I told you to make it a girl, make it gay!
It's hilarious.
It's so well done.
joe rogan
Yeah, how did that...
How did the people that are that goofy get in control of media like that?
whitney cummings
I think that, like, there's a really...
I think we're going to look back at this time and go, like, remember when we thought 300 comments on Twitter represented everyone?
Right.
Remember when we had that confirmation, we got scared of a bunch of tweets, half of which might just be bots or truly crazy people?
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
You know?
I don't know what the statistic is now.
joe rogan
Also, people crazy enough to be commenting on things all day.
unidentified
Yeah, good or bad.
joe rogan
The people that I know that are on Twitter all day commenting on stuff, they're mentally ill.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
The ones I know are mentally ill.
I know they're all fucked up.
I know they're medicated to shit.
And then they're on there freaking themselves out, arguing with people all day.
whitney cummings
I think not only are they medicated on whatever they're on, but also I think Twitter is a drug.
unidentified
It's a drug.
whitney cummings
I mean, you get that hit of self-righteous indignation.
It's like the people who write in to complain about their Mr. Goodbar being wrapped weird.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
And for actors and people in show business, it's almost like you're testing yourself out, like writing scripts for yourself to be like a hero in this scene.
whitney cummings
And I think a lot of people need to be heard.
I totally get that.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That's real, too.
That's real, too.
I mean, there's a real application for it in terms of your ability to communicate about things and learn more about other people's perspectives if you can cultivate a good group of humans.
But if you're famous, that's not tenable.
There's too many people.
If you're dealing with a product like a Disney film.
It's just too many people.
There's too many people.
You're never going to be.
And you're just going to encounter what you encounter.
It's random.
It's not like you're getting the ones from, like, I went to Stanford and asked the psychologist what their opinion on.
No, no, no.
You're just getting fucking, you're getting the wildest of wild opinions from who knows how many different groups of people.
And you just, whatever you scroll into, that's what you read.
whitney cummings
Do you think there'll be a day where we look back and we go, like, remember when you could just, like, be on Twitter all day?
Like, is it going to be the way we are with cigarettes now?
Remember, you used to be able to smoke inside.
joe rogan
No, because people are just going to keep doing it.
Because it doesn't physically feel bad.
Even though it is bad.
We're really bad at things that don't like burn our fingers.
whitney cummings
Ouch!
joe rogan
We're really bad at just continuing to do certain things like a Twitter type deal or just any kind of online social interaction is so different than regular human interaction that if you get used to doing it all the time, it kind of like reprograms the way you communicate with people, period.
whitney cummings
Just like the new normal.
joe rogan
Yeah, you see people spill over, like Twitter talks spill over in real life with horrible consequences.
whitney cummings
It's like my favorite Mike Tyson quote is the problem with people today is you can talk shit and not get punched in the face.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And then you see him talk shit in person, it doesn't go so well.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's real.
I mean, you're supposed to have consequences for your behavior.
whitney cummings
Like a bunch of my friends that are parents say that like bullies will come in and they'll say the craziest shit just because they've been on Twitter or online or on those video games where you're allowed to like talk shit and then you go into the real world and it's a little different.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's plenty of those videos on my Instagram too.
People getting fucked up.
whitney cummings
You know, I was thinking about this because I was like, is it new that we are able to see horrific shit?
joe rogan
Constantly.
whitney cummings
Constantly.
But I was thinking of like, what are the other collective visual traumas we've had that we've seen?
And I was, I'm a little, I kind of missed this a little bit, but I remember hearing about it because I had an older brother.
Remember the Challenger explosion?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
whitney cummings
It makes me, I've been trying to write a joke about it, that they rolled in TVs into classrooms to watch this with the teacher.
Remember there was like a teacher on it?
And they showed it and everybody just watched this teacher explode in the sky.
joe rogan
I remember not knowing exactly what was going on at first.
Going, what's happening?
Like why is there like so many different like there was like one going this way and one going that way and Then they started talking about oh, no.
Oh, no, and then you realize like oh shit that thing blow up Because do you remember watching it at first like it didn't I didn't know exactly what was happening I watched it recently and kind of I remember watching it look on the news when I was really young and not understanding what was going on Can you pull up the Challenger explosion?
By the way, that all apparently could have been mitigated.
People knew that there was problems with the O-rings.
whitney cummings
Really?
joe rogan
You gotta think how many fucking people are involved in those things and how bad the government is at almost everything.
unidentified
Yep.
Almost everything.
whitney cummings
They looked for the teacher.
It was like this whole thing.
joe rogan
Look at this.
whitney cummings
Okay.
Oh, people gathered in theaters.
unidentified
Yeah.
...full throttle and point at highest stress.
whitney cummings
A massive explosion.
unidentified
The cheering stops.
The horror sinks in.
Seven Americans with the highest hopes.
A billion dollars worth of the highest technology.
Gone in silence.
The worst disaster in the U.S. space program ever.
whitney cummings
It's like a jellyfish.
unidentified
Good evening.
This is the CBS Evening News.
whitney cummings
To watch that live.
unidentified
...never before in 25 years of a... ...oh.
whitney cummings
He's just dead.
joe rogan
What a weird thing we try to do.
Fill giant tubes up with combustible liquid and then light an explosion and shoot them up into the fucking sky to get out of Earth's gravity.
Well, it's definitely worked a gang of times.
whitney cummings
I know, but it's just like...
joe rogan
Look at the amount of power you're dealing with.
That's what's so bonkers.
The amount of thrust that you need to escape our atmosphere and escape our gravity.
It's just so nuts.
Boom!
whitney cummings
How quick was that?
Did they feel it?
Nah.
joe rogan
They might have.
whitney cummings
That was my obsession.
joe rogan
I watched a video on the implosion of the submarine the other day.
whitney cummings
Can't get enough.
Can't get enough.
I can't get enough of this thing.
I love that billionaires now have to do broke shit.
All it makes me think about is gold diggers, because gold diggers now don't even get to do cool stuff anymore.
They used to be like, you go to Monaco, you go to like, you know, we're gonna go to St. Bart's.
joe rogan
Now you gotta get a submarine.
whitney cummings
Now you gotta go look at a bunch of trash at the bottom of the ocean.
joe rogan
Who was telling us about people that are paying to go over to Russia?
They're paying to go over to Ukraine and fight on the front line.
They'll let them shoot guns.
You don't remember someone telling?
jamie vernon
I don't remember someone telling us.
joe rogan
Maybe someone told me off air.
Maybe it was a different thing.
But they were saying that they know someone who literally paid to go and fight for Ukraine against Russia.
They went and they allowed them to operate guns and shit.
I was like, what is...
This is why I wanted to bring it up, because I'm like, is that a bullshit story?
whitney cummings
I feel like Ukraine would let you do it for free.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying!
But even back then, they're so corrupt.
That is such a corrupt country.
And there's so much shade.
My friend, what do you want to do?
You have money?
We'll give you a gun to shoot at them.
And then the next thing you know...
Some fucking frat kid whose dad's got an oil baron is over there.
Okay, get me out of here!
whitney cummings
He's staying in the sandals, Ukraine, trying to get content for his TikTok.
It's just what we need.
joe rogan
I think people have done something like that.
whitney cummings
Didn't, by the way, I think RFK's son went over to fight.
joe rogan
RFK's son did go over to fight.
whitney cummings
I feel like there had to be like a...
joe rogan
He didn't tell anyone.
He just went over and did it and then came back.
Like, he didn't even tell us his dad.
whitney cummings
Yeah, right, right.
joe rogan
His dad didn't...
RFK Jr. did not know his son was over there.
whitney cummings
But you just show up and you're like, hey, I'm on your side?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know how he applied, but I think he was in some sort of special forces group.
jamie vernon
There are very rich Ukrainians doing this.
I don't know if it's like an American.
joe rogan
Okay, maybe that's what it is.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this article on NPR says there's billionaires that are leading battalions, but they might also have some sort of training or something like that.
joe rogan
Oh, but isn't that just like the guy that they blew up?
jamie vernon
That's on the other side.
joe rogan
Right, but he was a billionaire that ran his own army, the Wagner Group, right?
whitney cummings
Yes, I'm a businessman, and now I'm a commander of a military unit in Ukraine.
Like, are you having that much trouble getting chicks as a billionaire?
joe rogan
Yeah, but that might be a different thing.
That might be a thing where he just felt like he has to take up arms because Russia's invading.
whitney cummings
I get that, by the way.
I do feel like, isn't it...
I mean, I text a lot of my friends about this.
I'm like, is today the day?
Like, is today the day we're all going to war?
Like, there is a little bit of...
joe rogan
Way more than ever before.
whitney cummings
Way more than...
I mean, I'm looking at bunkers at 2 a.m.
I'm kind of...
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
I mean, what if draft happens?
Can you imagine our 18-year-olds going...
joe rogan
TikTok kids getting drafted.
whitney cummings
Eating Tide Pods going over there, like...
joe rogan
Yeah, draft is a real, it would be a real issue with the morale of this country and the suspicion of, like, the government doing unethical things and the trust and whether or not these kids could even survive.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just survive boot camp.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, this is the softest.
whitney cummings
Just survive filling out the forms saying their gender.
joe rogan
This is the softest.
The softest generation that's ever existed.
whitney cummings
It's scary.
joe rogan
It's wild how quickly it happened.
It really is wild.
I mean, if this was engineered by Russia, good job.
whitney cummings
They nailed it.
joe rogan
You fucking nailed it.
whitney cummings
They nailed it.
joe rogan
Everything that everybody wanted.
A complete lack of faith in the government.
whitney cummings
Whoever put Roundup in the water so that everybody went soft.
joe rogan
Yeah, fluoride.
whitney cummings
Yeah, between the fluoride and the Roundup and all the endocrine disruptors.
joe rogan
They did a great job.
They turned us into such pussies.
There's a few people that are out there fighting the good fight and trying to resist, but ultimately they're outnumbered.
whitney cummings
I feel like there's a backlash happening.
I feel like it's interesting.
Being pregnant, I've started getting obsessed with everything you put in your body.
Just the idea of drinking water is a full-time job.
Where am I getting my water?
I got it because it's either my choices are fluoride or microplastics.
I'm not having a baby with a small taint.
I'm telling you that right now.
joe rogan
Did you ever check yourself for phthalates?
Shit.
No.
whitney cummings
No.
Where do I do that?
joe rogan
Too late.
whitney cummings
I did the tally age test, the biological age.
unidentified
That's different.
joe rogan
Phthalates are microplastic.
It's like chemicals that leach out of plastics.
whitney cummings
I mean, I for sure got them.
joe rogan
Well, everybody has them.
whitney cummings
There's no way I don't.
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was a study that they did recently that was like, what is it?
What was the number?
Like 90-something percent of people had phthalates in their body?
Something nuts.
whitney cummings
Also, there's this guy, I don't want to plagiarize his work, Kashif Khan, he wrote that DNA Way book about how their micro, the forever chemicals in women's yoga pants.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
whitney cummings
In the crotch, it's in AstroTurf.
joe rogan
Well, how about fucking baby powder?
whitney cummings
We used to put it in our underwear before basketball games.
There's been 50,000 lawsuits.
They've paid, I think, over $8 or $9 billion, which is probably nothing to them, but women getting ovarian cancer from the asbestos in it, and then also the minors of the talc.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, that's what I was reading, that talc and asbestos are often in the same spot, and they don't filter it out well.
whitney cummings
To what?
joe rogan
They don't even test to see if the talc has asbestos in it sometimes.
whitney cummings
Johnson& Johnson's gotten away with some wild shit.
joe rogan
Well, that's a wild one.
Did they know?
What I want to know is did they know?
Did they know that sometimes their talc has asbestos in it and it was just too problematic to sift it out and figure out what's what?
What is the deal with that?
Find out what's the deal with talc and asbestos?
whitney cummings
I think the miners definitely complain.
My guess is it is a similar trajectory to the...
joe rogan
Oh, here it is.
Because talc and asbestos are minerals found close together, when talc is mined, it may contain traces of asbestos.
Talcum powder is still an ingredient in a number of cosmetic brands.
As recently as November of 2020, a study found that 14% of the talc-containing makeup tested contained asbestos.
That's wild.
whitney cummings
Can I tell you, a lot of my girlfriends, when they act insane, I ask a couple questions.
Like, what birth control are you on?
And what hair products and makeup are you using?
Because you're just putting chemicals in.
I mean, your skin's your biggest organ, right?
unidentified
Right.
whitney cummings
The amount of chemicals women just put on their bodies, in their bodies.
joe rogan
They knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its baby powder.
Oh my god.
whitney cummings
Unreal.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
This is Reuters.
whitney cummings
I want to say it was in St. Louis, but it was over 50,000 lawsuits.
joe rogan
Oh my God, that's so crazy.
whitney cummings
Johnson& Johnson didn't tell the FDA that it leaves three tests by three different labs.
Unreal.
joe rogan
From 72 to 75 have found a bestest in his talc.
In one case at levels reported as rather high.
Who says rather?
This is rather in that context.
What kind of numbers are we talking about?
They were rather high.
whitney cummings
They were rather high.
Also, and then as soon as the Johnson& Johnson vaccine came out, we just flocked.
It's like, that's a trusted name.
joe rogan
Well, that was the first one they pulled.
whitney cummings
I did it.
joe rogan
Did you do that one?
whitney cummings
Yeah, who knows what's even in my belly.
I'm kind of worried.
joe rogan
Let's think on the positive side.
How come in comic books, whenever someone gets exposure to radiation, they get superpowers?
whitney cummings
That's true.
unidentified
I got pregnant at 40. This is a vaccine injury, 100%.
joe rogan
Isn't it supposed to be the opposite, though?
It's supposed to stop women from...
whitney cummings
Yeah, I guess women were having a lot of fertility problems.
And pregnant women that took it, their placentas were hardening.
unidentified
There was a lot of sketchy stuff happening.
whitney cummings
Yeah, fertility is going down in a way that's super alarming.
joe rogan
Do you think people will be more skeptical of novel medical interventions in the future?
Like if something like this comes up in the future, I don't think people will be as quick to line up.
whitney cummings
I think fear does wild stuff to people.
joe rogan
Yeah, but we never had like that much of a reason to distrust the medical establishment as we do now.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just like the videos that you could watch of them saying it's 100% effective, it's 80% effective, it's effective against preventing severe hospitalization or death.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
I think that, I mean, at least the people that I know are very suspicious of stuff like that, but the thing that really freaks me out is even natural remedies are starting to be bought up by these corporations.
So, you know, Bragg's apple cider vinegar, Bill Gates bought it.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
whitney cummings
Bill Gates now owns one of the few natural healthy tonics we had, and he's putting the apples in it.
joe rogan
Oh, the Appeal?
whitney cummings
The Appeal, the creepy-ass...
joe rogan
Oh, what is that?
That's like a coating that they spray on the outside of vegetables?
whitney cummings
It's like some shmegma to keep the apples preserved longer.
joe rogan
Is it just apples?
whitney cummings
Is he just so obsessed that he didn't invent apple computers?
joe rogan
Just poisoning everything apples?
whitney cummings
He just has to?
But yeah, it's like for Costco apples to stay fresher longer.
joe rogan
But what is in it?
whitney cummings
I would love to know.
I would love to know.
joe rogan
These motherfuckers, they get stuff out there before anybody's aware that these things are a problem.
And then years later, you're like, what's in it?
whitney cummings
Talc asbestos.
And then you don't find out until later.
So it's like talking about this and just being suspicious about should apples last for four weeks?
joe rogan
I feel like Bill needs a hug.
Why are you working so hard?
whitney cummings
Did you see the video of him against trees?
joe rogan
What?
whitney cummings
Look at Bill Gates against trees.
joe rogan
Oh, he thinks he should bury all the trees?
whitney cummings
He's like, I don't plant trees.
He doesn't believe in trees.
Someone needs to blow this guy.
I volunteer his tribute.
I'll jump on this grenade.
I don't know what.
And then I guess he owns half of the McDonald's potatoes for the french fries.
joe rogan
Bill Gates gets real about climate change.
Planting trees is complete nonsense, but the end of the oil and gas era is finally in sight.
Planting trees is complete nonsense.
We don't think planting trees is good?
Aren't planting trees, don't they make oxygen?
How would it be nonsense to have something that filters carbon dioxide and makes oxygen?
whitney cummings
I think he's done too much of that appeal.
joe rogan
Claims circling that Microsoft founder Bill Gates supports chopping down 70 million acres of trees, but the truth is more complicated.
Oh.
whitney cummings
Oh, is it?
joe rogan
What's complicated?
unidentified
Shock.
whitney cummings
There's a video of him being very glib about it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Promoting deforestation.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
What?
whitney cummings
Cool cause.
Well, I think he kind of wants to regulate the weather, right?
joe rogan
A startup company has a unique concept for the removal of trees to protect California forests.
Well, there's something to the removal of dead trees, and that's something that actually Trump talked about when the wildfires were hitting California.
He said he was going to cut off their funding if they didn't take care of their forests.
unidentified
Yeah.
whitney cummings
But I don't think that's what he's saying.
joe rogan
No, I don't think that's what he's saying either.
whitney cummings
I don't think he's saying like...
joe rogan
What you're supposed to do is trees die, right?
And they die and then they fall and you get deadfall and that stuff dries out and that stuff becomes highly flammable.
So if you got a gang...
Like there was an issue back a few years ago.
There was a thing called the Bark Beetle.
Do you remember that?
It was up in like...
What's that lake?
Big Bear.
It's like up in that area.
whitney cummings
It's where all my friends go to relapse.
No one goes to Big Bear and comes back so far.
joe rogan
Big Bear is a crazy place.
whitney cummings
It is.
joe rogan
So this beetle was consuming the bark of these trees and killing these trees.
So you had like, you know, who knows how many thousands and thousands of dead trees that were essentially kindling.
And so when a wildfire happened, it just burned right through everything because nobody had ever removed the dead trees.
whitney cummings
Yeah, you got to do that.
joe rogan
And that's the thing about a lot of these forests is that you've got a lot of...
But it's also like the amount of resources involved in removing all those dead trees.
Who knows how many acres?
whitney cummings
Yeah.
I mean, I live in wildfire land, as you know, in Topanga in California.
And I do like voluntary equine evacuation with LAFD. And they would fight for my house because I'm kind of right at sort of the end of like 170 acres, like in a hollow kind of thing.
So they would just come in and fight.
So they, you know, come over sometimes.
And I was talking to one of these firefighters about like, you know, like, oh, the forest fires.
And he was like, look, it's gonna get me in some trouble maybe, but he's like, look, most of the fires in California are homeless people.
But we can't tell people that or else people would just start taking baseball bats to homeless people constantly, you know?
So it's like a lot of it is like fires or smoking or little campfires.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Campfires.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, if your life is so fucked up that you're, you know, in a fucking tent on the middle of a grassy hillside and you're doing fentanyl, you're probably not so responsible with fire.
whitney cummings
You saw, like, the homeless camp wars in Venice where they were just throwing, like, Molotov cocktails at each other to set each other on fire.
unidentified
I mean, it was the Gaza Strip there for a minute.
joe rogan
It's just so nuts that it happened so quick.
Again, Russia, good job.
You guys nailed it.
Whatever you did to our education system, whatever you did to crush our faith in democracy, amazing work.
whitney cummings
Yeah, and just a testament to how one sick bill will put you out.
And people can't afford housing.
joe rogan
There's that, but it's mostly mental illness and drug addiction.
It's mostly that.
There's people that are down on their luck, but those people usually find a way back.
It's mental illness, for the most part, and drug addiction.
And also the community that comes from a bunch of people that are also just as fucked up as you.
People like to be around...
If you're a fucking mess, you like to be around other messes.
You don't want to be a mess and be around Jocko.
He's up there getting up at 4.30 in the morning and working out.
You want to be a mess around other non-ambitious people that are just laying around.
And that's their community.
whitney cummings
It's pretty wild.
In California, you can be homeless.
I mean, the homeless people in California, they're not trying.
They've got ring lights.
They've got cell phones.
They're getting their morning sunlight.
joe rogan
It's not that cold out.
It's not that big a deal.
They can get a 24-hour gym membership.
whitney cummings
They're in shape, too.
Dude, they look great.
joe rogan
It's that gym membership.
whitney cummings
They're barefoot.
They're grounding in the grass.
joe rogan
They're probably healthier than most of us.
whitney cummings
They're probably living the lives that we're all trying to learn to live from these high performers.
But I got my laptop stolen out of my car outside the Improv on Melrose.
And this guy, I wasn't going to fight with him about it, but he was ripped.
He looked great.
He looked like Goggins.
He looked great.
And it's just kind of a lifestyle at this point.
I don't think they're trying to change it.
joe rogan
Well, also, if you steal anything that's less than $900, they don't even arrest you.
whitney cummings
That's right, with the stores and stuff.
joe rogan
This is fucking dumbest shit ever.
And then these mass lootings where these kids organize.
whitney cummings
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy, too.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
This is a complete collapse of society that's happening while we're here.
So it's hard to really understand the scope of it unless you could have a go-back-in-time machine and see what those same streets looked like 20 years ago, see what these same stores were like 20 years ago.
And then see what's going on now.
It's like, whoa.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
This is like a fucking Robocop movie.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Something's wrong here.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Real wrong.
whitney cummings
Just gangs of people.
Yeah.
Organizing to steal...
And then what do they do?
They put on eBay.
They just are...
Whatever you gotta do, man.
I mean, it's like, with what's going on in this country, I'm almost like, good for you guys.
joe rogan
Good for you to steal my laptop.
whitney cummings
Is that what you're saying?
That I didn't mind.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
whitney cummings
Some good jokes in there.
joe rogan
Good for you.
whitney cummings
One time Janine Garofalo was on stage and she goes, yeah, I lost my joke notebook in St. Louis.
So if you see anyone bombing around town, let me know.
There is something when you lose something that has jokes in it, where you're like, I just want that back because I don't want people to see my jokes in progress.
joe rogan
How embarrassing.
Oh yeah, that's true too.
Or just the notes.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
unidentified
It would be an evidence in a crime.
whitney cummings
I'm like, I'm definitely going to jail if anybody sees my joke notebook.
joe rogan
It would be like one of them physics papers, though, where you're like, I don't know what they're writing.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
What is this?
joe rogan
Those fucking arrows pointing to dicks, and that's arrow pointing to clouds.
whitney cummings
I have been kind of writing in a notebook recently jokes, because you get on your computer, and then you get a pop-up bat, and you're like, I'll just research this.
And then you're in a wormhole of Disney dicks for two hours.
So I've started writing more, and I've got this joke notebook, and I'm like, God...
But I don't have my name on it or anything anymore.
joe rogan
You don't want to lose it.
whitney cummings
Well, yeah.
I mean, it's a portrait of insanity.
joe rogan
Do you take photos of each page?
whitney cummings
I should do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
That's really smart.
joe rogan
Then you can just open them up, spread them, you can read it.
whitney cummings
Sometimes I'll do it like in my notes app, like write jokes out and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's some applications that will take written handwriting and convert it into text.
unidentified
That's really smart.
joe rogan
I know that Remarkable, that tablet thing does that.
It'll do that for you.
You ever seen that tablet?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's pretty cool.
It's a tablet that it looks like a Kindle, so it looks like white paper.
And you write on it.
whitney cummings
With like a pen.
joe rogan
With a pen.
whitney cummings
Stylus?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then you get a...
With a stylus.
whitney cummings
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
But you have multiple pages.
So you write like that, and it looks like paper, but then it'll convert it to text for you, convert it to type font.
whitney cummings
That's crazy.
joe rogan
But the thing is, it's like, you could have a thousand pages in that, easy.
whitney cummings
And can you erase easy with it?
unidentified
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
You could have little folders and all sorts of different things with it.
whitney cummings
I'm kind of like, I don't know, I'm a little old school.
I like having a piece of paper and tearing it out before I go on stage and put it in my pocket.
I don't know, there's just still a little attachment.
joe rogan
Well, they do say that there's something, and I wonder if it would be the same on a tablet, but they do say there's something, when you physically write something down, it's better for your memory.
whitney cummings
Yep.
Part of writing it out is just remembering it, I think, for me.
And then I'll say it.
I saw Jay-Z somewhere say, if you say something 18 times in a row, you'll remember it, whether that's true or not.
That's his process.
And then I kind of started doing that.
joe rogan
Well, he famously doesn't write his raps down.
whitney cummings
That's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, he keeps it all in his head.
whitney cummings
That's insane.
joe rogan
It's pretty wild.
Pretty genius.
But I know a lot of comics who do that.
whitney cummings
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of comics who don't write at all.
That's crazy.
They could go on stage and do an hour and a half and it's all in their head.
Yeah.
whitney cummings
I'm trying to get better at that.
I'm trying to get better at that.
joe rogan
I think there's two—both things are good.
I think a lot of those comics probably would be a benefit from writing, too.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Probably get some extra bits.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
Like, I'll sometimes, like, it drives me nuts when I'll come—I'll try to come up with stuff on stage or allow myself, but if I don't record it, I'm like, ah, shit.
Like, I was so in the moment.
Like, I worked so hard to be president, and then I'm like, I don't remember any of it.
b-real
Did you do Bottom of the Barrel Tuesday night?
whitney cummings
Dude, I had the best time.
I had never done it before.
And it was like, I kind of feel like you'll have a better metaphor for this, but it's almost like, you know, doing fat man is like, you know, doing your cardio writing jokes is like, you know, you're, you know, lifting and then bottom of the barrel is like stretching or something like it should should be a part of what you do as a comic.
joe rogan
It's good to just be on a tightrope.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
And not having any idea where you're going with things.
And then totally going the wrong way and trying to bail yourself out.
whitney cummings
I got like three things out of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
whitney cummings
You're just like jumping off a cliff and flying and sort of...
Because I think that I get a little bit after I have a special come out, I start going, okay, my next special is going to be about this.
And then I kind of like have the tunnel vision about what the theme is going to be.
joe rogan
Right.
whitney cummings
And someone just...
Hamas Christmas was literally one of them.
It was like to just riff on that.
I never would have thought to write about that because I'm like, oh, too touchy, too this.
It makes you braver.
And it was like a muscle I hadn't flexed in a really long time.
joe rogan
It's also a unique situation because the audience knows that you're doing it and you are clearly reaching.
You're not preparing at all.
You're reaching into this thing.
You're pulling out this piece of paper.
And there's this moment where you might have something on that.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like, oh.
Yeah.
Christmas with the relatives or whatever it is.
whitney cummings
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
You're like, oh, okay.
And then they get to see this process of you fucking around.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
And also I think sometimes you get into this, whether it's feedback from the internet or from other people, when people kind of tell you what kind of comic you are, you're kind of like, oh, that's not a topic I would do.
That's a topic Dilla would do.
And then I'm kind of like, no, I could totally weigh in on that.
But I don't only have to talk about relationships or being a woman.
Like, oh, that worked.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it'll also get you out of whatever might be rigid.
This is the worst when you see a comic, they have a theme, and they're kind of rigid with it.
And you feel like, oh man, you should be a little more loose.
It'd be more fun to watch.
You're a little too buttoned down with this thing.
whitney cummings
Yeah, and it also was like, you know, the topics were so incendiary and wild, you know, to just the permission from the audience, like, go there!
Like, go!
Don't hold back, don't censor yourself.
It was just like, oh, okay, you guys want me to go here, right?
It's just this really cool jump.
joe rogan
It's also, there's 110 people there.
whitney cummings
That room is my favorite.
joe rogan
It's a great little room.
whitney cummings
The fact that you made...
I mean, I was thinking about this last night when I was like, how does a club that's only, what, two years old?
joe rogan
Not even.
It's not even a year old.
whitney cummings
Feel like it has so much history.
joe rogan
I know.
whitney cummings
And like soul.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's because of the building.
I think there's a reality about buildings.
And that's a 1927 theater.
And I think there's something about old buildings.
I think memories are like legitimately burned into objects.
whitney cummings
That's fascinating.
joe rogan
I think.
I'm 90% sure.
I think this idea that things don't have something that's akin to consciousness, I think it's arrogant.
That building, I know it's like wishful thinking because it's my place and all that jazz, but when we opened it, I felt like it was happy we were there.
I felt like even when I looked at it, even when I looked at it, I felt like it was talking to me.
Like when I was going through it and like trying to figure out how I could do this and do that, I'm looking around at it.
It was like, come on, let's do it.
whitney cummings
What was that documentary ages ago called What the Bleep Do We Know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And remember the particles were in the water and when they were nice to it, the particles changed.
And when they were mean to it, I think the particles, you know, there is...
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know if that's real.
whitney cummings
That guy also ended up in the NXIVM cult, so...
joe rogan
Yeah, there was also another person that was talking during that.
I think she calls herself Ramtha.
And she's channeling like a thousand-year-old alien or something.
So like her real name is different.
But when she talks, she talks in this wonderful way.
And she's channeling.
unidentified
So there's a lot of wacky shit in that film.
whitney cummings
Okay, so they were doing The Secret.
Got it.
But there's just this feeling, and it's the way you've decorated the place, the people you've chosen to be there.
It feels like home.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's what we wanted.
We did everything we could to make it as comfortable for comedians as possible and as much fun.
And to help promote the art form and help promote up-and-coming artists.
That's the big one.
It's like...
Everyone who works there is a door person.
They all audition with their acts.
The people that are going up on open mic nights, they have two nights of open mic nights to go up, Monday and Tuesday.
whitney cummings
Dude, was it Miles?
I've seen Miles destroying in the little boy and then the next day I walked in and he was the door guy and I was like, you were the guy I could hardly follow last night?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nice.
whitney cummings
And I think my biggest concern when you were building it, I was like, what if Joe doesn't like running a business?
It's just like a hassle.
It's just like a hassle.
Having employees and they want to do other things, you know what I mean?
But everyone is part of this mission there.
Everyone feels like a family.
No one feels like they're just there to get some cash.
joe rogan
I think everybody realizes it's a very special thing that we've been able to put together.
And the fact that the idea to put it together was really just to make...
It wasn't like a business idea.
Like, this would be a great way to make money.
It was the opposite.
It's like, I just don't want to lose any money.
But let's put together this business.
Let's put together this...
This center, this one hub where the comedians can just be free, have fun, and feed off of each other and bang joke ideas around with each other in the green room and watch each other do sets from the balcony.
whitney cummings
Watching you and, I mean, being in the green room and, like, because, I mean, look, sometimes you're kind of in a lot of clubs.
You're in a hallway and there's, like, people coming by.
And the way that you've, like, really incubated comedians so that they, like, feel safe and feel like, you know, they can be themselves, especially before they go on stage.
Like, you know, Ron White came off stage and he had just done this bit.
He was trying to explain why it didn't go how he wanted it to go.
unidentified
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Watching Ron White have a joke not go well for the first time in 30 years was funny to watch.
joe rogan
It was funny.
whitney cummings
It was like, I just bombed for the first time.
joe rogan
And his fucking, his complete accepting of the bombing.
whitney cummings
I know.
joe rogan
Like the way he was saying, that fucking joke didn't get a single laugh.
whitney cummings
They all agreed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we were trying to tell him, like, I don't understand why you thought that was funny.
Well, clearly you were right.
whitney cummings
He told the joke and Joe goes, yeah, I would have advised you against doing that joke.
joe rogan
But then we came up with alternative ways to do that joke where we're ridiculous.
whitney cummings
And then you, like, went into this whole other thing and, like, basically I just watched you put a whole chunk together, you know?
And, like, we were all just there, like, just supporting each other and kind of, like, writing and everything's, like, you know, that's the best feeling in the world when you're sitting around a bunch of people.
You know you can't hurt their feelings.
You know you're not walking on eggshells.
And you can just...
joe rogan
And you know you're around a place of love.
whitney cummings
That's it.
That's it.
And just go for it.
joe rogan
There's no tension in that room.
unidentified
Zero.
joe rogan
Everybody's smiling.
unidentified
Zero.
joe rogan
We're so lucky.
whitney cummings
The best.
joe rogan
I feel so lucky sometimes.
I look forward to it so much.
It's like medicine.
When I'm not there for a few weeks and then I come back to town and I'm hanging out in the green room again, everybody's like, hey!
whitney cummings
You built this thing though and there's also it made me realize like you have to be around the absence of something to realize there was a presence of something else that became so normal is there's an absence of predatory energy.
I know that might sound weird but like the comics the For whatever reason.
joe rogan
Nobody's trying to get something from you.
whitney cummings
No one's trying to get you on their podcast.
unidentified
Right.
whitney cummings
No one's kind of just trying to get near you.
No one's trying to get a picture with you.
joe rogan
There's just this agreement.
whitney cummings
We're just here to get better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And we're a family in here, and we're not trying to do anything except get better at comedy.
joe rogan
Right.
There's always that weird moment where someone weasels into your conversation at the store, and you don't know who that person is.
And they're, hey, I'd love to talk to you about this project.
And you're like, ugh.
whitney cummings
Or there's just a feeling of, like, this feels like work.
joe rogan
Right.
whitney cummings
For some reason we're just faking this.
joe rogan
It's also the Hollywood environment, too, because everybody kind of has that attitude all day long.
whitney cummings
How can you help me?
joe rogan
How can you...
It's a transactionary existence, and these people are always looking to make these transactions.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
And move up the social ladder.
whitney cummings
There was also a really cool thing the last couple nights.
I went up in the Little Boy both nights and talked to a couple people in the audience.
There were like four people each night that were in from Australia just to come to the mothership.
unidentified
Wow.
whitney cummings
They came just to come for the week to come to all the shows.
There was another guy, one of the guys that came from Australia, he did a road trip in America.
And I was like, oh, what's your trip?
And he was like, I went to Austin, Ohio, and New York.
joe rogan
Wow.
whitney cummings
That's America.
joe rogan
That's pretty much America.
whitney cummings
There was no...
joe rogan
Depends on what part of Ohio.
whitney cummings
It was like a family thing or something like that.
But no Disneyland in Florida, no Universal Studios in LA. It was just Austin, Ohio, New York.
I thought that was really cool.
joe rogan
It must be wild to go from one country.
If you've never been to America and you see that it's basically Europe.
There's different countries here.
whitney cummings
Every state feels like a different country.
joe rogan
It's a different country.
New York is such a different country than Texas.
LA, California is so different than Texas.
whitney cummings
LA is also so different.
LA feels like a weird simulation now.
When's the last time you were on Sunset Boulevard?
joe rogan
It's been a few months, but the last time I was there, I was like, Jesus, this is weird.
It feels different.
whitney cummings
House of Blues is gone.
joe rogan
It feels like it could fall apart at any minute.
It feels like something could go sideways at any minute, and no one's going to stop it.
And it's just reliant upon the good nature of people.
It just doesn't seem like people have as much restraint anymore.
People are more desperate.
There's more tension and anger.
I mean, so many people lost everything during those two years.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
So many people.
unidentified
That's right.
So many people.
whitney cummings
And then the business that was somewhat functioning, you know, Hollywood, didn't work for two.
And then, I mean, because people think about Hollywood and they think about the annoying actors and the, you know, writers and the producers and the directors.
But it's mostly crew guys.
It's mostly the electric guys, the camera guys.
They're making $100 a day max and they live out in Santa Clarita.
Like, those are the ones that just truly will never come back.
joe rogan
Right, and then this last strike put another fucking nail in that.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
Both strikes.
whitney cummings
Could not be in production for four years, basically.
I mean, the city's been disemboweled.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were talking about just how much the strike cost Los Angeles.
Just the strike.
It's billions.
whitney cummings
Yep.
And a lot of production, actually, get ready.
You left Hollywood, tried to escape, and it's coming to Austin.
joe rogan
Is it really?
whitney cummings
They're doing a lot of, like, the film tax credit thing.
I think Bastrop...
Which, by the way, is awesome.
Have you been out to Bastrop?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's beautiful.
whitney cummings
Ryan Holiday has his podcast out there.
He bought a bookstore.
It looks like Mayberry.
It's like this strip of a saloon and a bookstore.
It's so cute.
But Bastrop did...
I don't remember what the TV show was called that shot that had Elizabeth Olsen in.
It's supposed to be really good.
And there's a couple other towns that are building studios out here.
joe rogan
Uh-uh.
whitney cummings
I know.
Sorry.
Coming to get you.
joe rogan
They'll come.
Yeah, they'll ruin it.
But I don't think they'll ever turn it into Hollywood.
whitney cummings
No, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
What that thing was was a place that was created essentially when they realized that it never rains.
They said, oh, we can film here all the time.
And so they just started moving everything out there.
And Johnny Carson moved out there.
And all these different things happened.
And they're doing all these movies.
And then the people that wanted to be famous moved out there, too.
And even if they didn't, Make it in show business.
They became dentists.
They became doctors.
They became those people populated the area.
So there's like an ethic, like a way of thinking in that area that would prioritize fame above everything.
whitney cummings
And everyone that has other jobs there, they're just trying to get a reality show about their job.
joe rogan
That's true, too.
whitney cummings
So I had a shoulder injury, and I got this massage person to come help stretch it out, whatever.
And third or fourth session he comes, he's like, hey, I'm shooting a sizzle reel for what it's like to be a celebrity masseuse.
Will you be on it?
I'm like, what?
Can you just...
I had a personal trainer who got a show at Netflix about being a trainer.
I'm like, can anyone just do what they do without the end goal actually trying to be famous?
joe rogan
Well, how about I'm a celebrity masseuse?
Can I get a sizzle reel?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you talking about?
whitney cummings
I don't know how to break it to you.
joe rogan
You get famous for giving back rubs?
Like, what are you talking about?
whitney cummings
Truly.
joe rogan
A celebrity masseuse.
whitney cummings
I know.
It's just everybody's trying to get famous, and whatever vocation they're doing is just to try to get famous.
I want to be a famous interior designer.
I want to be a famous dentist.
I want to be a Hollywood designer.
joe rogan
But also, if you want to be more successful and get more clients, that is the way to do it.
I mean, if you're utilizing social media...
If you're a trainer and you look awesome, you're going to get a lot of clients on social media just from that.
It's actually a good marketing move, but it also has that gravity of possible YouTube slash TikTok slash whatever fame, and then you say, okay, I can make a living off of this.
whitney cummings
There's just a, you know, I don't know.
I think for me, it's like, what we do is like, you know, I was talking to one of your guys up front, and, you know, being a comedian, it's weird, because it's like, there's a point where you go, like, now that I'm having a kid, and I'm kind of like, oh, you can't undo fame.
Like, you can't undo that.
And I remember...
joe rogan
You can fade away.
whitney cummings
You can fade away.
You can become irrelevant, for sure.
Yeah.
But especially at this day and age, you have to fight so hard to probably stay famous.
But it's kind of like it's one of those things I remember Bill Murray said one time, someone asked him, like, do you hate being famous or something?
And he goes, what I would say to people that want to be famous is try getting rich and see if you still need to get famous.
Which I kind of liked.
Because sometimes you're like, no, I just want to be able to pay my bills.
But as a comic, I remember thinking, like, no, you have to get famous for people to buy tickets.
There's no way otherwise.
Like, I've got to get a sitcom so people know me, and then they're going to come see me do stand-up.
joe rogan
I was just talking to Bert, and he ran into a group of comedians that aren't doing so well and aren't selling tickets on the road.
And they were asking to go with him and this and that.
And he's like, oh, Jesus.
Like...
It's not easy for everybody.
There's some people that, for whatever reason, they never marketed themselves very well, they never got the attention they felt like they should have deserved, and now they're in their 50s, and they can't sell out a club, and they're fucked.
And they can't make a living, so they're not paying their rent.
It's like, it's not good.
whitney cummings
Yeah, I mean, it's a tricky one.
And, like, not to, like, plug the special coming out.
I know you and Matt Reif talked about OFTV. It's OnlyFans, the TV section, where I'm doing their first special.
But they're doing, remember, like, Live at Gotham?
Remember there was, like, Evening at the Improv.
There used to be specials for comics that couldn't get the Netflix special, couldn't necessarily do the hour.
If you were maybe, like, a, quote, middle-class comedian, you could at least get screen time or get a good tape.
You could go on Fountain or whatever.
joe rogan
You could headline it on a road club.
whitney cummings
That doesn't exist anymore.
So it's cool that they're actually doing that so that comics that can't necessarily get the hour special or sell out clubs can at least get some kind of TV exposure.
Because Comedy Central is just like a square space at this point.
It's just like a plug-in.
I don't even know how to get it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't it quickly how that dropped off from relevancy?
whitney cummings
Wild.
joe rogan
It used to be the most important thing to get on.
And that was just 10 years ago.
whitney cummings
2013. That was 10 years ago.
joe rogan
It was very important to get on Comedy Central.
Like, oh my god, they had South Park, they had this, they had that.
Chappelle Show.
I mean, fuck.
whitney cummings
And you could have a set from Live at Gotham.
You could have your half-hour premium blend.
They'd put it on the improv website and you would, you know, sell out a couple nights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And then you could do local radio.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Which doesn't really exist anymore.
unidentified
Doesn't exist anymore either.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
You remember you would go in early to Chicago to do Man Cow or whatever.
joe rogan
Whatever, yeah.
Yeah, I used to enjoy those.
And that's one of the reasons why I started doing a podcast.
I used to think, boy, I would love to do a radio show.
But who the fuck is going to pay me to do a radio show?
I'm like, I'd ruin it.
I'd say something stupid.
You know, it wouldn't work.
whitney cummings
You'd have to take notes.
You'd have to.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I'd have to show up.
I couldn't swear.
You know, that's the weird thing.
You think about the rulings that they had on radio and how there's none on the internet.
whitney cummings
That is crazy to think on the radio.
Yeah, you're at 5 a.m.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you said shit, you were in trouble.
If you said fuck, the radio station would get fined.
Like, they could get fined hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Like, the Stern things that happened during the Bush administration, like, people forget, but there was no internet.
There was just Stern.
And he was the only one like that, that was just this wild boy on the radio in the morning, and everybody tuned in to see what the fuck is he gonna say.
And during the Bush administration, because he was pretty critical of the Bush administration, they went after him.
And they fined his radio station.
I think they fined the company somewhere in the millions.
whitney cummings
But don't you think that the more they fined him, it's kind of like the more when they try to cancel comedians, the more successful they get.
It's like he just got more and more impressed.
joe rogan
Well, he was already huge.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I think it was very touch and go for freedom of speech.
Because they were just making these claims about certain things being obscene.
But meanwhile, that is...
whitney cummings
I mean, there were porn stars queefing on...
joe rogan
Yeah, normal stuff.
Online now, that's nothing.
No one's trying to shut down Instagram, but I watched two people get murdered this morning while I was taking a shit.
Two different people.
whitney cummings
But I feel like YouTube is starting to age restrict.
And I've got a couple things for my podcast, Age Restricted, because we said porn star.
People are saying corn star now, which seems way dirtier.
joe rogan
To trick the algorithm.
whitney cummings
And vaccine, you can't even say the jab anymore.
I don't know.
I think Russell Brand figured out something to say.
If you say vaccine, they'll...
joe rogan
Special sauce.
whitney cummings
Yeah, they'll demonetize you or they'll other special sauce.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they do use it.
They use some sort of machine learning that picks up.
It's not like an individual reviews every single podcast.
whitney cummings
Right, right.
joe rogan
But you can ask for a review if they decide that it's demonetized.
But they also kind of weaponize that.
It seems like that demonetization is a strategy to make you self-censor.
whitney cummings
Yep.
100%.
unidentified
For sure.
whitney cummings
And age restricting.
Like to put in your age and all that is such a hassle.
But I know that I think me, Theo, Santino, Bobby, we all, we bleep the first 10 minutes of Curse Words.
joe rogan
Interesting.
whitney cummings
You kind of have to.
joe rogan
When we left YouTube, when we announced that we were going over to Spotify, one of the first things that happened is YouTube stopped demonetizing us.
Completely.
They just said, okay, well, he's not going to be here for very much longer.
He's only here for three more months.
Let's make all the money.
We didn't get, right?
Wasn't that the case?
Did we get any demonetized once we made this switch?
jamie vernon
That's what it seemed like happened, but no one officially said that or did that or anything like that.
joe rogan
What a diplomatic answer.
Good job.
whitney cummings
And they're trying to say it's to protect kids, which I'm all about protecting kids, but doesn't YouTube have their own kids channel, KidsTube or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, the thing is, like, people don't pay attention to what the fucking kids are watching.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's like we're doing the job of the parents.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
Do you remember when the YouTube had that problem because there was cartoons that seemed like regular kid cartoons but then they would get like really violent and like Mickey Mouse would get super drunk and hit people over the head with bottles?
whitney cummings
Do you know that, I mean, half of porn now is like Shrek getting blown by Elsa from Frozen.
joe rogan
Really?
whitney cummings
Yes.
But also we grew up on like Ren and Stimpy and like Beavis and Butthead.
I mean that shit was bonkers.
joe rogan
Wild.
Yeah.
But did you, were you aware of that whole trend where there was this like, so like say if a kid was watching YouTube and you're watching some cartoons, these people who made these cartoons, and I think they've rooted out a lot of them and got rid of them.
But these people that made these cartoons, they would figure out a way to get into that algorithm so that the kids, it would just play the next video, and then play the next video, and then they would play one of these.
And one of these videos, it was always weird.
It's like someone would always get drunk, someone would fall down, break their head open, there would be blood everywhere.
It was really weird.
whitney cummings
Is it people trying to psychologically harm kids, or is it just an accident?
joe rogan
I don't know what they were doing, but they were cartoons that seemed to be regular kids' cartoons, but they would follow a very specific pattern.
There was always a broken bottle, there was always a lot of blood, but it was like Mickey Mouse and fucking Goofy and shit.
jamie vernon
For instance, this is not a well-known one, I just picked one, but this is a bunch of known characters doing a bunch of weird shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this is like live action.
jamie vernon
It's just what some of them were, 100%.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
This channel has 700,000 followers.
whitney cummings
But what's the...
jamie vernon
6.7 million views on this video.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
It would fall into the...
Honestly, it's just algorithm.
They were manipulating the algorithm.
whitney cummings
They're just trying to benefit off the algorithm.
jamie vernon
Anything that would click off of a kid watching Frozen or Elsa or Spider-Man or the Joker or anything, and it would just hope that one of these would eventually fall in there.
whitney cummings
So they're baiting kids with the iconic characters.
jamie vernon
Because kids are just watching it all day long.
The amount of times the kids would watch Disney Channel or Nickelodeon, it's kind of all gone away.
whitney cummings
And if you're 8, you want to watch Elsa from Frozen.
jamie vernon
Sure, they don't know what it...
joe rogan
But this doesn't seem as fucked up.
jamie vernon
100% this was, but it just started, people started getting crazier with it and crazier with it and crazier with it.
Then you would find some weird, I think people were making claims that there was then like child porn stuff was getting mixed in here.
Not fully on YouTube, but it was definitely, there were videos crossing a line.
whitney cummings
I have friends that used to...
I almost did this when I was struggling for money back in the day.
You put up football games or clips from football games up.
You know they're going to get taken down, but you can get quick 50,000 views or something.
You know what I mean?
Just like NFL. They're going to take it down, but it's enough to get a check.
I think they catch it faster, but that feels like what that is too, right?
jamie vernon
It's definitely a strategy.
It's just people...
You can sit at home and find a way to get money off of this system because there's so many holes in it.
whitney cummings
Because you know it's just going to pop up in a kid.
It's going to say suggested for you.
The kid's going to click on it and you're going to get paid.
joe rogan
Jamie, what were those cartoons?
Have they rooted out all those cartoons?
Are they gone?
jamie vernon
I mean...
joe rogan
You know what I'm talking about, right?
Remember those?
jamie vernon
Look, I just clicked on a different one.
Look at the screen.
Right below it is the Elsa Spider-Man cartoon thing.
whitney cummings
Cartoon hookups.
There you go.
jamie vernon
This is 600,000 people on this channel.
This has a million views seven years ago.
It's all just finding holes to get into this.
joe rogan
Elsa and Spider-Man have sex.
Look at Elsa's titties bouncing.
whitney cummings
Okay, her tits should not look like that.
joe rogan
They're bouncing a lot.
whitney cummings
I see the whiskey in the corner.
joe rogan
Batman's sad.
whitney cummings
Uh-oh, Batman in blackface, offensive.
jamie vernon
This is easier to make than the live-action one because one person can make this instead of you needing seven actors to get together for a day.
whitney cummings
But like some kid in Pensacola made this.
jamie vernon
Most likely.
I mean, I don't know for sure.
joe rogan
But the weird ones were kids cartoons that were cartoons like Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse.
You remember what I'm talking about?
jamie vernon
Which were already pretty violent to begin with.
This is just an extension of this.
This was a very deep network of all sorts of weird stuff.
A lot of those are probably now taken down.
This was six or seven years ago.
I'm sure they've done some work to get rid of that.
joe rogan
Just see if you can find any of those old cartoons because they were so weird.
It didn't make sense.
whitney cummings
Like, I'm surprised that they don't have more parental controls on YouTube.
Not that I'm advocating for it, but it must be a nightmare to be a parent.
joe rogan
Well, just think about the sheer number of people that are posting things every minute of every day all over the world.
I mean, the volume.
jamie vernon
There's an article from 2017, what is going on?
Spider-Man and Elsa have taken over YouTube and it's confusing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Yeah, if you're a kid and you just watched Spider-Man, you're just going to Google it all day.
jamie vernon
The videos are gone, though.
This is going to be the thing.
joe rogan
But this kind of makes more sense to me because it's like those two things were very popular at the time.
whitney cummings
There you go.
It said having them get buried alive.
There's an ungodly nightmare depicting everything from characters being buried alive to peeing on each other.
joe rogan
What?
whitney cummings
Sick!
jamie vernon
See, these videos are all gone.
joe rogan
Oh, the videos are removed.
jamie vernon
They've definitely probably created a team to get rid of them.
This created such a problem for them six, seven years ago.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
jamie vernon
This is part of an adpocalypse.
Adpocalypse 2, I think, is what happened with this.
Adpocalypse 1 was a whole different thing.
whitney cummings
Same reason they're in adult ones.
It keeps them glued to the screen.
Yeah.
It's just praying on kids.
joe rogan
The whole thing is very strange.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
But it's also, that's what happens when you have these platforms where anybody can post anything.
And then people try to figure out a way to manipulate it, what's the best way to get people to pay attention to your stuff.
whitney cummings
So the people that work there are constantly just whack-a-mole trying to get the toxic stuff down.
joe rogan
Look at how many people are doing these prank videos.
They go up to people and prank them just to try to get reactions.
People getting shot.
See that guy that got shot in the mall?
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
Some guy wouldn't stop fucking with this dude and the guy just pulls out a gun and shoots him.
whitney cummings
Yes, I did see that.
I was going to say, mall seems like the most dangerous place to be at this point.
Remember when we just walk around malls for five hours as teenagers with no money?
joe rogan
Yeah, malls were like the playground for teenagers.
whitney cummings
Now it's just smashing crabs, people getting shot.
jamie vernon
I've showed you this before, but it's gotten way worse on Twitch, which is supposed to be for video games, you know, like watch people play video games, maybe talk and do some interviews or podcasts.
They expanded it into this area now called Pools, Hot Tubs, and Beaches.
And as you can see, it's just mostly 100% girls just sitting at a pool, hot tub, or beach, mostly naked.
joe rogan
Mostly on their knees.
jamie vernon
And most of this I've found out after watching it for a little bit and doing some research.
They're just leading to their OnlyFans account.
joe rogan
Look at this one.
Yoga workout time.
Look at the pose.
Yeah, I'm doing yoga.
I don't think that's yoga.
Look at my ass.
It's yoga.
jamie vernon
There's body painting that goes on where they're literally just all about butt naked with a little bit of paint covering the proper nipple areola area.
joe rogan
There's a lot of gals that are making a living doing this stuff these days.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
Like, way more than ever before.
whitney cummings
I mean, the pandemic...
joe rogan
Hey, it beats working at Walgreens.
whitney cummings
The pandemic is when it really hit hard, you know?
I mean, I can't say if I was 22. If I was 22...
joe rogan
If I was 22?
whitney cummings
I don't know what I would have thought.
I don't know what I would have done.
joe rogan
I'd be out there doing yoga in my underwear if that's all I had to do.
whitney cummings
If OnlyFans was around when I was 22, I don't know if I wouldn't be doing yoga wrapped in ropes.
joe rogan
The thing is, if you get in that...
There's two arguments, right?
If you get in that ecosystem...
And that's what you do for money now, and you start making a lot of money.
You're going to get very accustomed to making a lot of money.
So if an office job comes up in the field of your choice, and then they have to go, hey Whitney, can you come in the office?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
We just discovered your Twitch underwear page.
whitney cummings
Tricky.
joe rogan
And what's going on here?
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
You represent this company, and we sell air conditioning units.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's like, you can't be.
And you might literally not be able to get a regular job anymore.
whitney cummings
That's probably true.
It's a...
joe rogan
But then here's the other thing.
If you do get a regular job, what are you doing it for?
You're doing it for money, right?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Can't you make way more money showing your asshole?
whitney cummings
Yeah.
I mean, the heartening thing, actually, about OnlyFans is a lot of it is, like, women breastfeeding.
Oh, boy.
jamie vernon
That's taken over instantly.
joe rogan
Imagine if you could have an image.
unidentified
That's a big one.
joe rogan
You know how you could see likes and views?
What if there was an image of every guy jerking off to you breastfeeding?
Just, like, you could just pop up into a window and see, like, a thousand squares, like...
What?
whitney cummings
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of...
There's something wholesome about it.
And also, it feels like there's this, I don't know, at least on OnlyFans, what I've seen...
Because also, I have an OnlyFans account that's just for jokes.
So instead of dirty photos and dirty videos, it's just dirty jokes.
A lot of, like, comics are starting to make money on there.
Just put your jokes on there that you'll get canceled for saying it on Twitter.
It's kind of like Patreon or whatever.
joe rogan
Right.
whitney cummings
Because there's a lot of people that are, like, influencers and...
Chefs and stuff like that on OnlyFans now making money on there the way you would on Patreon.
But it's interesting because remember like porn?
You used to develop a relationship with one porn star.
Like there's a lot of guys that kind of want to be monogamous with their person.
And that's part of the reason these women are making so much money.
They get tips.
They have like Angela White.
She came on my podcast.
Her biggest moneymaker is DMing with men and sending them customized videos.
Men want to be shrunk.
And for her to put them in her pocket.
And she just sends a video of her putting the man in her pocket.
jamie vernon
Is that a Remember that lit video with Pamela Anderson when we were younger?
Is that some weird fantasy back to that?
unidentified
Maybe.
whitney cummings
I think sometimes she eats them.
For a little more, I think she'll eat them.
But a lot of it seems like it's not just...
Because you can find buttholes and crazy sex anywhere on Pornhub.
joe rogan
It's just some weird fetish.
jamie vernon
Like that?
Remember that?
whitney cummings
It's like that exact thing.
And she shrinks them down.
She goes into Photoshop.
She's very savvy with the Photoshop.
Shrinks them and then puts them in her pocket.
And that's it.
joe rogan
Okay.
whitney cummings
So, it's pretty wild.
I don't know.
I mean, it seems like there's like a...
I think there's some men on there that kind of don't want to just see some stranger.
Because also, you go on Pornhub and all these places, and you're like, I don't know how old this person is.
It's a lot of stepbrother and steps...
I don't know what I'm looking at.
unidentified
Right.
whitney cummings
I'd rather kind of see a woman breastfeeding so I know that she's, you know...
joe rogan
Yeah, well there's gotta be weird kinks outside of just like regular sex stuff.
Like how many guys like to get their balls stomped on?
whitney cummings
What is that?
What is that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
whitney cummings
That can't be good.
joe rogan
I think some of it is CEOs.
whitney cummings
Being denigrated, being humiliated.
joe rogan
I think there's some of these guys that are the head of these giant corporations and they're under so much crazy stress and they take some sort of jolly and getting kicked in the nuts and told what to do.
Like dominatrixes, they'll tell you they deal with these high-stress guys that run businesses.
whitney cummings
I have a friend that did that for a while.
She would send this one guy photos of her feet, but she would demand money from him.
That's what he was into.
Like, send me $100 right now kind of thing.
And then she would insult him.
She would just go to his house and insult him while he would jerk off.
joe rogan
They called them humiliatrixes.
whitney cummings
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, okay.
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Cool.
I mean, I'm encouraged by how popular MILF porn is.
That's very promising.
It's very promising.
joe rogan
Well, MILFs can keep it together these days.
It used to be they didn't lift weights.
whitney cummings
There you go.
joe rogan
They didn't take care of their nutrition.
They didn't lift weights.
They hit a certain point in time.
And then it was the MILFs that were like...
They had that much sand left in the hourglass, and so they were really horny.
Because they knew they only had that much more time where men found them desirable.
whitney cummings
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
I don't know if it was that, because you remember when I made that robot for one of my specials?
I went down to the robot-making factory, and they told me the most popular request for the sex doll nipples were large and brown.
Like the nipple being almost as big as the boob and dark, which is what happens when you breastfeed.
Your nipples get darker.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
whitney cummings
So I thought it was some primordial...
joe rogan
Ooh, could be.
whitney cummings
About like dark nipples or something.
joe rogan
Right, it could be.
It's like a maternal thing.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
whitney cummings
Or people are just, guys are watching MILF porn to be like, is that what my wife's supposed to look like?
Maybe just comparing, I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
But it's always heartening when you go to a porn site and MILF is number one.
I'm like, yeah.
joe rogan
What's generally the MILF fucks the stepson.
That's a lot of it.
whitney cummings
What is that?
joe rogan
Well, the dad is an asshole.
He was a shitty dad.
He was never home.
He was mean.
And then he gets rid of the mom and gets this new hot monster that lives in his house that's just a cock addict.
And then...
whitney cummings
Are we running out of taboos, guys?
Are we running out of taboos?
When did sex get so boring, guys?
joe rogan
Well, that's the most likely one, because you couldn't do it the other way.
I guess you could, but it'd be way creepier.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, if it was the stepdad and the daughter, that's really creepy.
whitney cummings
I'm good on that.
joe rogan
Right?
Isn't it funny?
They do that.
I know they do that, but isn't it funny that the stepdad and the daughter creeps me out, but the stepson's like, ha, ha, ha.
whitney cummings
For some reason, for some reason, what is that?
It's like if you were to do like professor, student, you'd be like, ugh.
But if it's like teacher and guy, you're like, oh, good for him.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
whitney cummings
It's a tough one.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's just we don't worry about boys the way we worry about girls.
That's what it is.
whitney cummings
I've been trying to write a bit about this for so long, and I think there's a lot of reasons I can't crack it, but it is really like when boys get molested, nobody cares.
joe rogan
Nope.
Well, they do if they get maliced by men.
Then it's murderous.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
And if, like, an actress in L.A. gets hugged too long at a Christmas party, like, we shut down.
joe rogan
Variety rights.
unidentified
The city.
joe rogan
Front page article.
unidentified
We march.
whitney cummings
The highways are shut down.
Like, everyone gets fired.
joe rogan
It's interesting.
And then there's also that some women, particularly in Hollywood, they use seduction to ingratiate them with people.
They will flirt with people to get closer to producers.
And that's one of the reasons why, you know, who was the famous one that Tarantino told us about that had a bed in his office where he would bed starlets?
And this was like, you know, back in the day in the early movie business.
unidentified
I forget who it was.
whitney cummings
Hitchcock?
No, I don't believe so.
joe rogan
But I'm sure it was a common practice.
I think all of those studio heads and all those executives, like Harvey Weinstein was just one of many.
That's how they did it.
Like, you got jobs if you blew guys.
And there was a lot of girls that were willing to do that.
And the real actresses would frown upon it and they'd be mad, but a lot of times they'd be boxed out.
And we heard those stories.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
I told you about that time Harvey Weinstein came to the Comedy Store.
joe rogan
No, you didn't.
whitney cummings
He came in the main room and I left and the manager at the time called me and he said, Harvey Weinstein came to see you.
You need to come back here right now.
And the only reason I didn't go back is because I was like, no, he saw me in good lighting.
unidentified
I don't want to come back.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
whitney cummings
I missed my window.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got lucky.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
You dodged that one.
whitney cummings
I mean, it is wild, though, like how, I mean, when I first moved to L.A., people would go, oh, yeah, you got to sleep with Harvey.
Like, it was just like, people just said it.
Like, it was like, Ellen's mean.
Like, everyone just said it.
It's like, Ellen's mean and Harvey Weinstein, you have to, he has to rape you for you to get a job.
And you're like, cool, let me know.
joe rogan
But he made deals with people, right?
Like, where he really did follow up on his deal.
whitney cummings
You won an Oscar.
Yeah.
Because Oscars are all bought.
It's a lot of money to win an Oscar.
joe rogan
Is it really bought?
How much of it's bought?
whitney cummings
I mean, Jamie, help.
I mean, it's...
jamie vernon
I haven't bought one myself, but...
whitney cummings
It's pretty expensive, from what I understand.
I mean, you do also have to campaign.
You have to go to these nursing homes, because the voters are in nursing homes.
I don't know how it works now.
I think they've kind of...
I mean, George Lopez is on the board now, so I don't know exactly.
joe rogan
Is he really?
whitney cummings
Well, yeah.
They really wanted to make a big diversity push for the board of the Oscars.
joe rogan
Like South Park?
unidentified
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Make it a girl and make her gay.
So funny.
But it is.
It's a big campaign.
You have to buy all these ads.
You have to, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
It's expensive.
joe rogan
It's funny how that's still a big deal.
Awards for art.
whitney cummings
Mm-hmm.
I was thinking about this of the new special I did.
I'm probably gonna get in a bunch of trouble.
OnlyFansTV did let me yell about trans people for 30 minutes.
But now that Ellen Page is a trans man, can she win an Oscar if she was emotional in a role?
Or is that cheating?
joe rogan
Huh.
Well, she's still a tiny man, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's going to be difficult for her to...
whitney cummings
But if she can cry...
joe rogan
If she...
He...
unidentified
Whatever.
whitney cummings
If he can cry on cue...
joe rogan
Is it cheating?
whitney cummings
Is it like...
joe rogan
Depends on what hormones.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like if he's jacked up on testosterone...
whitney cummings
Okay.
So should we have to do that kind of testing the same way you would test an athlete who is about to compete against biological females?
joe rogan
You know, it's also interesting.
If you become a trans man, you're allowed to be like as manly as possible.
And if you become a trans woman, you're allowed to go full ho.
whitney cummings
You have to look like Minnie Mouse.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They celebrate these embracing of gender norms, of gender ideals.
They celebrate it when you're trans.
whitney cummings
Yeah, I make fun of all my, like, the trans girlfriends I have.
I'm like, you know that women wear pants, right?
Like, you know women, we don't have to dress like Betty Boop.
Like, why are you wearing cat ears?
joe rogan
They're trying so hard.
whitney cummings
But I think it's also, it's like if you're trying to make up for lost time, it's like, okay, maybe you wanted to be a girl when you were like eight, so you're dressing the way you, you know, like in a princess costume.
joe rogan
Right, for 25 years you held it back.
whitney cummings
Yeah, my thing is like if you're going to transition to a woman in 2023, you need to look like one of the boys from Stranger Things.
Like this is how we dress now.
unidentified
Right.
whitney cummings
We dress like bull dykes now.
joe rogan
But they can't because it's got to be clear what you're doing.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You can't have no makeup on and short hair.
Like what?
whitney cummings
You have to really like indicate it a little more.
joe rogan
The Elliot Page one when he got fake abs is the wildest one.
whitney cummings
Is that like a surgery for fake abs?
joe rogan
Yeah, they do surgery for fake abs now.
They give you ab implants.
whitney cummings
I bet you could get nudicals too.
What's a nudical?
You know how when some people will neuter their dogs?
joe rogan
Oh, and they give them fake balls?
whitney cummings
But give them fake balls.
You'd probably get those too in a way.
joe rogan
I guess you could.
Have you seen the pictures of the fake abs?
You gotta see this.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Because it's so crazy.
Because it would be like someone who only did sit-ups with like a weighted vest on and dumbbells and like reverse squats.
You would have to do like hard core ab exercises to develop a core like this.
whitney cummings
And it's also no trans men transition to like a dad bod.
I guess.
joe rogan
Chaz Bono.
whitney cummings
Oh, that's a good point.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
That's a good point.
But so if you get fake, is it like calf implants?
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And what happens if you actually start working out?
joe rogan
They're hard as a rock.
It's not hard as a rock, but it's like there's an implant, like a titty implant.
whitney cummings
Okay.
joe rogan
That's under there that accentuates the area where you would have extraordinary abdominal muscles.
whitney cummings
Okay.
joe rogan
Show the picture.
Mm.
Elliot Page.
whitney cummings
And it's just like a silicone?
joe rogan
Well, 100% it's not real.
whitney cummings
Okay.
joe rogan
Because here's the thing.
When you look at the rest, that one's one, but the one out in the light that you showed the first photo.
whitney cummings
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Like, those are giant ab muscles.
whitney cummings
Wow, wow.
joe rogan
Like, to have ab muscles like that, you would have shoulder muscles, you'd have arm muscles, but he doesn't have either of those.
whitney cummings
He's got armpit hair.
Is that a merkin, or can you grow those?
joe rogan
No, you can grow those.
whitney cummings
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But those abs are crazy.
whitney cummings
That's wild.
joe rogan
You would have to be doing some serious fucking sit-ups to develop abs like that.
whitney cummings
That's super intense.
joe rogan
Because even if you're just flexing, like holding it for the camera with good lighting, those are extraordinary.
whitney cummings
Yeah, to have them cut in like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the rest of your body doesn't have any muscle development.
jamie vernon
I think that's a before picture.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
That's skinny.
And then on the right one...
Look at that.
Those are giant.
whitney cummings
How is there already a surgeon that does this?
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
They've been doing it for a while.
whitney cummings
Have they?
joe rogan
Yeah, ab implants.
You can see some horror nightmare story ab implants where they look super fake.
whitney cummings
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
So this is what they do.
whitney cummings
Oh, God.
joe rogan
So they slice you open, shove these fucking things in there, and then all of a sudden it looks like you've got massive abs.
whitney cummings
I have a friend who used to work with David Copperfield and said after they worked together one night, they were in some hotel, and he went out on his balcony and saw David Copperfield's full-body muscle suit hanging over the railing to dry out.
He wore a full suit underneath it.
joe rogan
Oh, to make it look like he had a great body?
Oh my god, that's insane.
Like a superhero costume?
whitney cummings
Like a wax costume, basically, with abs and pecs.
joe rogan
No way.
And then he put his shirt on over that?
whitney cummings
And it was hanging over the railing.
It just looked like this.
unidentified
I know.
I know.
whitney cummings
Wild.
joe rogan
That's a toupee times a hundred.
unidentified
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Yeah, that guy's wild.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
I didn't even know they had those other than like for movies.
whitney cummings
I'm sure he got like custom made because he's David Copperfield.
joe rogan
Just go to the gym, you lazy fuck.
How many days a week are you working on magic?
whitney cummings
Doesn't he have his own island?
I think he's got like an island.
I'm kind of into people that have islands right now.
joe rogan
Well, he's been headlining in Vegas for so long.
Is that real?
jamie vernon
Yeah, silicone.
whitney cummings
What?
joe rogan
Oh, that's an outfit.
So if you look at the sleeves, you see how it fits over?
whitney cummings
Yes, exactly.
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Yeah, he has like one of these.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
whitney cummings
I don't know.
Those are great tits, by the way.
joe rogan
That's so...
What?
That is nuts.
unidentified
You can just pat this.
jamie vernon
No oil nonstick.
joe rogan
No oil and nonstick.
But imagine you're on a date with a girl and she sees that and she's like, that's my kind of guy.
whitney cummings
We're allowed to have push-up bras and no boobs underneath.
joe rogan
That's my kind of guy.
And then he's just like, well, you know, I got really sick and I got off medication.
A week ago you were jacked.
What happened?
Where the fuck are your muscles?
whitney cummings
My wax suit belt.
What is that?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
whitney cummings
Silicone pants for...
joe rogan
Transgender realistic cross-dresser underwear.
Oh, it's realistic.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
That's realistic.
whitney cummings
Okay.
joe rogan
Realistic is good.
whitney cummings
Is that like Luigi transition pubes?
Like, what are those black curly pubes?
joe rogan
That's a cheap one made in China.
whitney cummings
Made in Fachina?
I like this new bit you're working on.
I was thinking about it.
I don't want to tell people what it is, but about China.
I mean, they just took the pandas back.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck you and you can't have our pandas.
whitney cummings
That means they're going to nuke us.
If they're like, get out the pandas.
Why would they take three pandas back now?
joe rogan
Because we're assholes.
whitney cummings
But what was the motivating, what was the impetus?
joe rogan
Oh, I don't know.
whitney cummings
I have no idea.
Biden has to live with the fact that under his presidency, we lost three pandas.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Forget billions of dollars.
joe rogan
The whole thing is spooky.
Because, like, if I was another country, I'd be looking at America right now and go, if you're going to do something...
whitney cummings
Now's the time.
joe rogan
Now's the time.
When that Corrine Jean-Pierre, whatever her name is, got busted tweeting as Biden.
The White House press secretary lady is the worst White House press secretary lady ever.
whitney cummings
I mean, it's just Weekend at Bernie's at this point.
joe rogan
But she got caught tweeting as Biden on her account.
She forgot to switch accounts.
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
whitney cummings
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
You didn't see that?
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
Jamie.
whitney cummings
Have we solved whose cocaine is in there?
joe rogan
Hunter Biden's.
whitney cummings
It's Hunter's for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The dude likes to party.
whitney cummings
Oh my god.
joe rogan
That's the only reason why nobody knows whose fucking cocaine it is.
That place has so many cameras.
You're telling me they can't figure out who dropped the baggie?
whitney cummings
It's so true.
And if he was a good son, he would give some to his dad so his dad can get through his speech.
joe rogan
Mocked for deleted tweets saying she ran for president.
So this is the tweet.
So her tweet was, investing in America means investing in all America.
When I ran for president, I made a promise that I would leave no part of the country behind.
Like...
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
So she's tweeting as the president.
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
But now we know who writes that stuff.
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
She mistakenly logged into her Twitter account instead of President Biden's to post the tweet.
Oh, no.
unidentified
Hilarious.
whitney cummings
All the people that are doing cocaine shouldn't be and all the people that aren't should be.
It seems like she could actually use some.
joe rogan
Oh, she's probably just, I can't believe the job she signed up for.
Like, you think you're going to get the White House press secretary and then every day Biden's saying something dumber.
There it is.
whitney cummings
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Every day Biden's saying something dumber and then the press is grilling you on it and you have to explain it away.
whitney cummings
I just don't understand why they can't put a little bronzer on this guy.
I mean...
joe rogan
There's nothing you can do.
He's at the end.
I mean, he's basically...
Joey Diaz said it best.
He goes, they already got the formaldehyde in them.
I have to pee.
Can we take a break?
I'm sure you do too.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
whitney cummings
A pregnant lady would love to.
Biden being old?
unidentified
I mean...
joe rogan
What?
whitney cummings
I mean, why does our president look like a condominium in Fort Lauderdale?
joe rogan
I just don't...
I can't imagine that they think he's going to run in a year for president.
It's a year from now, November, next year.
whitney cummings
Insane.
joe rogan
And then he's going to run for four more years?
He's going to be the president for four more years?
Like, how?
whitney cummings
Did you see the clip where he said, oh God, it was so racist by accident.
He was like, you know, something about the difference between poor kids and white kids.
joe rogan
Yeah, poor kids are just as smart as white kids.
whitney cummings
Why did we not start the impeachment process right then and there?
joe rogan
Did you see where he said recently that he taught at University of Pennsylvania for four years?
whitney cummings
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Never taught a single class.
whitney cummings
Oh my god.
It is just, the guy, he looks like the nutcracker.
Like the other countries are just like laughing at us, dude.
joe rogan
They must be so fun.
It must be so fun for them to watch us implode.
And if you, literally, if you are Russian, I'm sure you've seen that Yuri Bezmenov video where he did, okay.
You should see this.
We shouldn't play it because we've played it on this podcast too many times, but I'll show it to you afterwards.
It's a former guy from the KGB who's explaining what they've done to America and how they've infiltrated their education systems and the demoralization of America and that this is a plan and it takes two generations.
And he's talking about it's a 20-year plan.
And he's talking about this in the 1980s.
And that's already been implemented.
It is too far gone.
You will not stop this process.
unidentified
This process is demoralization of your country.
joe rogan
It will be complete.
And it starts with teaching Marxist-Leninist ideas in colleges.
It's wild.
It's wild because if this guy was just guessing in 1984 and it's not really like a long-term Soviet strategy to destroy America, that has been like super-duper successful.
whitney cummings
I mean, it feels like there's, I don't know, RFK Jr., but I'm not weighing in on the science part of it.
I just feel like if we had someone being like, we're coming for you.
I mean, his voice alone, I think everyone would be like, damn, they're not fucking around in America.
joe rogan
Well, I think other countries' biggest fear would be Trump getting back in power.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he's the one guy that is, even though He's a business insider.
He's a billionaire and all that good stuff, but he's not a political insider, and he does not work well with those people, and he wants to do things his way.
And I just think he's a much more formidable adversary for these countries.
He doesn't fuck around with them, but he also will make deals with them, too.
It's kind of crazy how he was...
No one gave him credit for saying literally the most logical thing when he was talking to CNN's Caitlin, whatever her name is.
I forget the woman's name, sorry.
But he was talking to her and she said, do you want Ukraine to win this war?
He goes, I want people to stop dying.
whitney cummings
No one else will say that.
joe rogan
Well, that seems like the most logical thing to say.
Like, let's figure out how to get people to stop dying.
Of course, it's a horrible war.
You got people that were literally a part of the same union, and now they're blowing each other up.
whitney cummings
I think we're getting to a point where people just want to see someone be fearless.
It's like the same person who's like, Rosie O'Donnell's fat.
Yeah, is she not?
Is she not?
Like, I mean, it's funny, but it's also like it just boils down to, yeah, this guy will say the truth.
joe rogan
What happened with, like, did Rosie talk shit about him or something like that?
Is that what started that for you?
whitney cummings
I don't really know.
Well, I think, look, we forget that he was the biggest TV star before he was the president.
I mean, The Apprentice was massive, so I think he maybe knew her from that, and he called her fat.
I mean, remember when we...
But people just, it boils down to like, yeah, she is...
joe rogan
He's fat too.
whitney cummings
Yeah, exactly.
Rosie, are you not?
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
Like, so he's just saying the truth.
And I think that it's like people are trying so hard just to get reelected instead of just tell the truth and serve their country.
And it's so obvious and transparent.
And it's like the more...
It's like when that woman, E. Jean Carroll, came forward against him for like sexual harassment and he was like, look at her, you think I'd harass her?
I mean, just like, the guy's unstoppable.
joe rogan
That lady's a nutty lady.
You ever seen that lady get interviewed?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, they try to keep her away from the cameras.
whitney cummings
Oh boy.
She's like an advice columnist or something?
joe rogan
She's a journalist.
But she's eccentric.
whitney cummings
We're at the point where we're like, yeah, we're at war, you guys.
We need someone who's just going to say the truth.
joe rogan
Well, also, like, what are our options?
You know, what are the options?
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
The whole thing is just so scrambled.
whitney cummings
It's a scary time.
joe rogan
It's weird because it's just—it shows you the thing that you've already known but you didn't want to admit.
That this system is not run logically and it's not run by someone who's, like, some evolved, experienced person who's— Got a real grip on how to run this system.
There's no one like that.
They don't exist.
So you just have these special interest groups that are forcing things to get done that shouldn't get done.
You see Zelensky the other day just asked for credit?
unidentified
He's like, if you want to give us any more money, please give us credit.
whitney cummings
Like credit.
joe rogan
Credit.
So they can buy more weapons and shit.
If you aren't going to give us money, give us credit and we'll pay you back.
whitney cummings
It just seems kind of wild that we're sending all this money all over the world, not that they don't need help, but it's like, what about people in America?
What about Hawaii?
What about Hawaii?
We just forgot about Hawaii?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They accidentally spent an extra $6 billion on Ukraine.
They sent an accidental $6 billion, which would be more than enough to replace every single home that burned in Maui.
And there was no consideration for doing that at all.
whitney cummings
And we don't have clean water in Appalachia or Flint?
Have we solved that yet?
unidentified
No, Flint's fucked.
joe rogan
Flint's fucked.
whitney cummings
Okay.
All right.
joe rogan
And then everywhere else that has water has fluoride in it.
Explain that.
whitney cummings
Didn't the Surgeon General do that in the 50s?
Wasn't that something that was done by the Surgeon General?
joe rogan
I would check his fucking stock market portfolio.
whitney cummings
And was the idea of that to help with dental stuff?
joe rogan
Gary Brecker was talking about it on the podcast yesterday.
whitney cummings
I love that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's great.
He said there's some evidence that it's a thin layer of protection that it can give you, but also brush your fucking teeth.
Flint water criminal prosecutions end with no charges.
Frustrated residents.
Wow.
No charges.
jamie vernon
This is just updated recently.
It's just like, this just happened.
joe rogan
Well, it could have just been negligence and, you know, lack of, I don't know what, I have no knowledge about the Flint thing other than when Obama pretended to drink water from there.
Can I get a glass of water?
I'm serious.
I'm thirsty.
Can I get a glass of water?
This is not a prank.
And he just takes, like, goes like this.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You've never seen it?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
He gets a glass of Flint tap water, and I swear to god, he drinks it like this, like this.
whitney cummings
Is he trying to act like the problem is solved?
joe rogan
He's bullshitting the world.
Like, to think that you could bullshit the world over whether or not you drink water, have a sip of water.
whitney cummings
Also have that sip, just for the...
joe rogan
Come on, these people are drinking it.
Get a little...
Watch this.
Look at this.
whitney cummings
Stop.
Stop.
unidentified
I'm going to talk about this.
Everybody settle down.
joe rogan
Do it from the beginning.
Do it from the beginning.
jamie vernon
It's two minutes.
He's asking for someone to bring him the water and all sorts of shit.
unidentified
Can I get some water?
Come on up there.
Give me some water.
jamie vernon
He's just waiting for the water.
unidentified
Just trying to save time.
whitney cummings
They're straining the coal out of it in the back.
joe rogan
But why would they be cheering when they're literally...
unidentified
I want a glass of water.
joe rogan
I want a glass of water.
He's literally drinking poison water.
Like, they're drinking poison water and everyone's cheering that he's asking for poison water.
whitney cummings
Because they're excited he's about to fall over and die.
joe rogan
No, they're thinking, you know, he's showing us that he's going to fix it.
whitney cummings
I mean...
joe rogan
Meanwhile, you know that's Fiji.
whitney cummings
Right now, they just ran to the grocery store in this amount of time.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Here we go.
Like he's doing a shot of Red Bull.
whitney cummings
This is spooky.
unidentified
Usually when something isn't a stunt, you have to say that.
joe rogan
It's 100% a stunt.
When was the last time a president stopped a speech to ask, can I get a glass of water?
What?
They would never do that.
They would have water ready for him.
If you do stand-up, how often have you said, can I get a glass of water?
whitney cummings
Not often.
joe rogan
No, you bring a fucking water on stage with you.
whitney cummings
And then what happened?
It still hasn't been handled.
joe rogan
See, this is not a drink.
whitney cummings
Gross.
Gross.
joe rogan
I mean, did it even get in his mouth?
whitney cummings
I mean, oh, it's Appalachia water, still from Purdue, poisoning the water, like a lot of people that I went to high school with and stuff.
They have thyroid cancer at 40. Really?
Yeah, from DuPont.
I mean, so many chemicals have been thrown into Appalachia, but West Virginia water, DuPont, put in all that.
Remember there's Dark Water?
There's a movie with Mark Ruffalo.
Great movie.
joe rogan
He did it again!
Here's another one.
Watch how he did it this time.
Watch.
Watch, he gets up to his mouth.
unidentified
We're doing stunts here, but, you know.
whitney cummings
Oh, really?
unidentified
And this used a filter.
You know, the water around this table was plant water that was filtered.
joe rogan
But he didn't drink it.
whitney cummings
He did instantly start stuttering after he had a tiny bit of it.
joe rogan
His eyes start blinking.
whitney cummings
Instant neurological damage.
joe rogan
So what was the Purdue thing?
Was it something to do with the...
whitney cummings
I'm sorry, DuPont.
joe rogan
DuPont.
whitney cummings
Sorry, DuPont.
It was Teflon.
So the movie Dark Water covered it.
But it was actually...
RFK worked on this case back when he was a lawyer.
Because, you know, RFK spent so much time trying to clean up water, which I really admired.
But what Teflon was made of, they ended up just pouring into the dark waters.
joe rogan
I never watched this.
Who's in this?
whitney cummings
It's amazing.
Mark Ruffalo.
jamie vernon
Tim Robbins.
whitney cummings
Tim Robbins.
jamie vernon
Hannah Hathaway.
joe rogan
And it's all about?
whitney cummings
And it's all about the poisoning of the water in Appalachia.
jamie vernon
He's a lawyer.
whitney cummings
He's a lawyer who took on the case for free to try to take on DuPont.
joe rogan
He looks like John Reeves, doesn't he?
Like a shorter version of John Reeves?
whitney cummings
Okay.
Disgusting.
joe rogan
Well, they've been doing that from the beginning of time.
And then when they're not doing it here, they do it in South America.
whitney cummings
And what they're doing in Appalachia with the coal mines and all the pollution from that is really incorrigible.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all crazy.
We were looking at this video of this one town in Indiana where they have multiple coal mines in the area.
And you go outside and these people have a thin layer of soot that's on their windshield.
And you can just wipe it off with your finger.
And so you're breathing that.
whitney cummings
It's going into the kids' lungs, yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody, a host of different sort of cardiovascular diseases, lung diseases these people have.
Fuck.
whitney cummings
I mean, it's so heartbreaking.
And I mean, I guess I don't know enough about the topic, but, you know, there's this great documentary called Hillbilly about about the moment Hillary really put her foot in her mouth calling for clean energy.
And she said it was not the deplorable speech, but it's she said, we're going to get rid of coal mining.
You guys did the best you could to keep the lights on.
joe rogan
What?
whitney cummings
And by best they could, they died.
Like, my grandfather worked in coal.
And what Massey Coal and Sinclair Coal, what they did to that region is so despicable.
Because number one, they wouldn't allow for no unionizing.
And it's a great place to union bust because people live so far apart.
They would isolate the Italians from the Irish, from the blacks, so that nobody would collude and unionize.
But they would pay the coal miners in vouchers to the Sinclair Oil Store so that they could never build any kind of wealth.
They built the schools.
I mean, they own everything.
And it's a great documentary about how Trump put on a hard hat.
He went to West Virginia and said, I'm never going to get rid of coal because I'm not going to get rid of your jobs.
And even though there's only 50,000 left, it's one of the most valuable in terms of voting areas of the country that people just ignore.
People just never go there.
unidentified
Wow.
whitney cummings
It's heartbreaking.
But that's also centered the opioid crisis.
So it's coal, it's Teflon, it's poisoning water, and then opioid crisis.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's spots in this country where you could get a bad roll of the dice and be born in a fucking hillbilly commune in West Virginia and like, fuck.
whitney cummings
That's right.
That's right.
And the fact that it's thought of as this backwards area always breaks my heart because it was the first woke state.
It was the first state that said, we're not doing slavery.
It said, we're not doing slavery.
John Brown left and said, we're not playing this shit.
joe rogan
So were they just a victim of the fact that they had coal?
whitney cummings
Coal, yeah.
Came in being exploited, which is, you know, I mean, I don't know if this is exactly true or not, but people I know that are in the coal business there, it's like, you know, they've taken all of our natural resources.
If they hadn't mined all of our coal, like by now we would have diamonds.
You know, like they've taken all the wealth of the region.
It's just, it's totally devastating what it's done to the topography.
I mean, the trailers, the boulders crush kids all the time because of the way that they've messed with the topography and completely just depleted the soil.
joe rogan
Oh, so they'll have collapses and shit?
whitney cummings
Floods, horrible floods.
unidentified
Dude, imagine being in one of those things when it collapses.
whitney cummings
Can't.
Probably be in that little Titanic Easy Bake Oven.
joe rogan
There's one place that has coal mines that has a fire that's been burning inside that coal mine for like decades.
whitney cummings
Wow.
That makes sense.
I mean, the fact that I think about this all the time because I don't know where you are on like ancestral trauma and epigenetic imprinting and stuff, but I've always had a little bit of a like, I don't like small spaces, you know, and my grandfather was in mines and sometimes that imprints on you.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Original cause and start date is still a matter of debate.
It is burning at depths up to 300 feet over an 8-mile stretch of 3,700 acres.
At its current rate, it could continue to burn for over 250 years.
Due to the fire in the 1980s, Centralia was mostly abandoned.
whitney cummings
Can you imagine going a mile into the earth?
joe rogan
See if you can find a video of that, because there's videos of it.
It's very strange.
So this coal mine fire has been going on forever.
whitney cummings
Wow.
joe rogan
And it burns underneath the ground.
And it's all coal, so it's never going out.
And there's oxygen to it, so it's never going out.
whitney cummings
Since 1971?
Wow.
joe rogan
Fucking crazy.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
It says it's been burning since 62. Oh my god.
Oh my god.
whitney cummings
That's unfathomable.
joe rogan
It's just coming out of the ground everywhere.
Imagine you're driving through and there's no one there.
That's some walking dead shit.
whitney cummings
Can't.
Too scary.
joe rogan
And also, how bad does that air suck?
That's the thing about the coal mining thing.
It's like, what you really need to do is find other industries.
unidentified
Okay.
whitney cummings
Yeah, without taking coal miners jobs because it's like it's this thing where they have this skill and then all of a sudden it's like we're going to get rid of your job.
joe rogan
Well, remember learn to code?
That was the thing.
They were telling them learn to code.
whitney cummings
Oh god.
joe rogan
Like what?
whitney cummings
Learn to code the robots that are going to replace you?
joe rogan
Learn to get something that's going to give you a job is what the idea was but it's like fuck what are you saying?
whitney cummings
It must be wild.
Like, you're going to send kids to college soon?
Like, is that a weird...
I mean, college, like...
joe rogan
You know, I had this conversation with someone the other day where they were like, you know, kids today have it harder.
I'm like, bro, kids were born before there were floors.
whitney cummings
No, no, no.
joe rogan
You know?
They hadn't invented floors yet, and people were having kids.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's complicated, for sure.
It has always been complicated.
Every single time human beings have been alive, it's been complicated.
These are different complications that our kids are dealing with than we dealt with.
whitney cummings
And every generation has probably said that, right?
unidentified
Yes.
whitney cummings
This is the hardest generation for kids.
joe rogan
Or the weirdest.
Like, the 80s are probably weird compared to the 70s.
whitney cummings
Also, kids used to work in factories.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah.
That's the other part of that dissolving illusions.
whitney cummings
Some still do.
joe rogan
Burning Mountain is a rare phenomenon.
A coal seam buried 30 meters underground, which has been burning for at least 5,500 years.
And some say over 15,000 years.
Where is that?
It's in Australia?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck!
jamie vernon
Is that how we found fire?
Did we just stumble across it?
joe rogan
I think it was lightning.
unidentified
Interesting!
whitney cummings
Did we really come up with it?
joe rogan
I think it was lightning.
I think that's what the current belief is, that originally they carried fire from one place to another.
You know, they would get the coals and they would figure out how to maintain it because it was so precious when it happened.
And they figured out how to keep fires lit.
jamie vernon
But if you have a fire pit somewhere, like a water pit that you're used to going to get water from, and you just go walk and get more fire when you're out of fire, you don't need to worry about making it because they have it.
whitney cummings
Were there brush fires back then, the way there are now?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
jamie vernon
I'm thinking of it as a super baseline.
Like, we don't know what fire is, but it's over there, so we can just go get more of it.
joe rogan
Well, I think for sure when they first found fire, they said, you know, it's kind of nice to get close to this.
whitney cummings
It's kind of warm over here.
joe rogan
And then they probably figured out, well, you just put more wood on it.
You can make it more fire.
And then they figured out you could pick up the part that's not on fire and take it over here.
whitney cummings
You can throw your enemy on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, how do you make one of those things?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Then someone figured out, you know what?
Friction makes fires.
The first dude that figured out how to do this...
whitney cummings
That's...
Was had OCD. Have you ever done that?
Severe schizophrenic.
Made a fire like in Girl Scouts or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did it in the Boy Scouts.
It takes forever.
And I don't think I ever really got a fire.
I think I got to where it was blackened, you know, from the friction.
It was like got a little bit red, but I never really made a fire.
whitney cummings
I wonder if they teach now in Girl and Boy Scouts, like, just using the mirror and the sun, doesn't that?
I once had my couch, there was like a CD. Remember the old school CDs?
And it made, the sun hit it, and it burnt my couch.
joe rogan
Do you know that that's the way that some people sabotage fields and start wildfires?
They set up magnifying glasses at an angle, and then they just leave the space?
whitney cummings
Like their competitors or something?
joe rogan
Well, I don't know why and who, but I know that they have found magnifying glasses set up outside Where people have, like, decided that the sun's gonna hit here, it's gonna burn this, and they can just set it there at night and leave.
whitney cummings
That's pretty crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it works.
whitney cummings
That really works.
joe rogan
That works.
Like, I did a lot of that as a kid.
We lit paper on fire and shit with magnifying glasses.
It's kind of nuts.
whitney cummings
I mean, I guess kids were always doing dumb shit.
Now they just film it, huh?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Always.
But that's a pretty wild one, that you could take a magnifying glass and start a fire pretty quickly.
unidentified
We can kill an ant.
whitney cummings
Yeah, when we were kids, we would try to kill bugs and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, how wild is that?
whitney cummings
We were monsters.
I mean, people say, like, kids now, they leave negative comments and da-da-da.
I'm like, we used to take shovels and knock over mailboxes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People used to play baseball with frogs.
whitney cummings
Oh, God.
We used to toilet paper people's homes.
Like, we used to throw eggs at people's car.
Like, we would destroy—like, now you get, like, destroyed emotionally for maybe a couple minutes because you feel left out or you got a negative—we used to destroy property.
joe rogan
Kids used to take rocks and put them in the middle of snowballs and then throw them at cars.
Yeah.
whitney cummings
That's brutal.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was crazy.
You'd always hear cars hit the brakes.
You motherfuckers!
whitney cummings
I mean, why did we do that?
We would take a shovel, drive by a mailbox and just level it.
joe rogan
Because you could.
Because it's there.
whitney cummings
Psychotic.
joe rogan
You ever go to like a small town and you see bullet holes in the stop signs?
whitney cummings
Yes.
joe rogan
That's what that is.
Fuck yeah!
Bang!
whitney cummings
I mean, now it's just filmed, I guess.
I guess that's the new Darwinism, is are you going to film yourself doing it?
joe rogan
Well, how about those kids that filmed themselves riding over that former police chief in Vegas?
whitney cummings
I haven't seen this, but I did see a couple people die doing a TikTok challenge, doing a backflip off of a boat.
Something like over 400 people have died so far taking selfies.
joe rogan
Oh, at least.
whitney cummings
At least.
joe rogan
How many people have fallen off mountains?
unidentified
That shit always happens.
whitney cummings
So what happens?
Is it because you're so focused on getting the photo?
I mean, there's a video of, I think it's in India, a guy taking a video of himself next to a wild bear as the bear eats him.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
whitney cummings
And he's not, everyone else is filming it, but he just keeps filming as he gets eaten.
joe rogan
Yeah, people are, if nothing's happened to you, you don't think it's going to happen to you?
whitney cummings
It shuts off your frontal lobe.
That means it's truly a drug.
joe rogan
Is this the guy that's taking a selfie?
whitney cummings
Oh god, I think it starts with him taking the video and just...
joe rogan
Oh god.
And that bear's just like, well you're meat.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're made out of meat.
I'm fucking hungry.
whitney cummings
Oh god.
I don't think he survives this, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Yeah, probably not.
joe rogan
Probably not.
whitney cummings
God, that fucked up my algorithm for a while.
But wait, what is the one that the person died?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, these two kids were driving in a car, and he was on a bike, and they fucking plow into him, and they're laughing about it.
And they filmed it, and live-streamed it.
They hit one car, hit and run, and they hit this guy and killed him.
And it was initially reported, a lot of people were like, Tried to say that they're trying to downplay crime because it was initially reported that he just died from a hit and run.
And they were like, they don't even want to say why he really died.
No, they didn't know why he really died.
It took like two weeks before they figured out these kids killed him.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And no remorse.
They're laughing in court.
They're giving people a finger in court.
whitney cummings
Is this like a...
It's like psychopathy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's psychopathy, but it's also street cred.
They're trying to pretend they're hard.
You know, they're...
whitney cummings
And then you go, has this always happened, we just didn't see videos of it?
You know, like we've always done savage shit.
joe rogan
Well, for sure there's always been gangbangers and gangbang initiations and people have always done fucked up things.
It's just always been a part of human culture, but it's just seeing young kids run over an old guy on a bicycle is particularly fucking disturbing.
whitney cummings
I wonder though, do you think that having all these videos available desensitizes?
joe rogan
100%.
whitney cummings
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think 100%.
I think there's a bunch of factors that desensitize people.
I think movies, violent movies.
And this is not a judgment.
Like, I'm not saying we shouldn't have violent movies or we shouldn't have violent video games.
But if you don't think it's affecting people, of course it is.
You're being so much...
You're so accustomed to seeing violence and wild, horrific violence.
whitney cummings
I really try to not watch, like, too much news or read too much news because it spooks me how I can just scroll past a school shooting with just like...
I remember when Newtown happened, I was at a job where we sent everyone home.
Like, we sent everyone home when that happened.
You know, it was like, I cried.
joe rogan
Now everybody would be like, oh no, another one.
whitney cummings
I'm worried about my brain that I could just scroll right past that.
joe rogan
We should be.
It's a factor.
You know, there's something going on.
There's something going on with us with this prolonged exposure to horrific things.
Sigur and I have this text message chain where every day we send each other the worst things that we find.
It's almost like we're waiting for someone to cry uncle.
We do it every day.
Every day, we send each other, and I always tell him when he's taking a shit, because I'll get something like 2 o'clock in the morning.
It's a fucking, some horrible car accident, some horrible animal attacks, some horrible...
whitney cummings
Remember when, like, there used to be, like, one video every couple months that would be, like, the what?
Remember?
Two girls, one cup?
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Like, that was, like...
joe rogan
And that was fake.
That was, like, ice cream in your butt.
whitney cummings
It was, like, ice cream or something?
joe rogan
Whipped cream or something.
whitney cummings
Like, I remember when that happened.
It was, like, everybody had seen it.
Now that's just kind of...
joe rogan
Now it's nothing.
whitney cummings
When you realize how extreme that seemed at the time.
joe rogan
I know.
And that was a big deal.
Like, there was a reaction.
The Two Girls One Cup reaction videos.
whitney cummings
Yes!
There's so many of those.
You've watched people watching it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But now you see ten times worse than that on a daily basis.
If you have my algorithm, you know, my algorithm's a mess.
I don't know how to clean it.
whitney cummings
Do you think it's, like, part of your brain, like, because, like, it's like, what is it, rubbernecking?
Is it kind of the same thing in the brain where you see an accident?
It's like you're trying to study it?
joe rogan
There's also, like, you can't believe you're really seeing it.
Like, the hit and run that I saw yesterday, I was like, whoa!
whitney cummings
That's wild you saw that in person.
joe rogan
Dude, I saw it as far from here as the door to this studio is.
It was two car lengths away.
whitney cummings
They say that when Fast and Furious movies come out, car accidents go up.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
whitney cummings
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, the type of people that are pumped, that are Fast and Furious movies out, they shouldn't be allowed to drive.
unidentified
Yeah.
whitney cummings
There's always so much more drag racing when that happens.
joe rogan
Street takeovers.
whitney cummings
I do feel like that's probably always happened.
But also, in Rome, people used to go to the Colosseum to see people get torn apart.
We used to go to the town square and watch people get hanged for entertainment.
I mean, this is in us.
joe rogan
And also there's something that we're aware that we're very, very vulnerable.
So if we can watch something happen to someone that exposes that vulnerability, we want to see it.
We want to see the explosion.
We want to see, you know, someone drop a fucking grenade off a drone into some dudes that are in a pit.
We want to see it.
whitney cummings
And I want to know, it's like your brain's way of rehearsing in case it happens.
I was talking to someone about dreams and nightmares, and they were like, nightmares is your body's way of preparing for a scenario.
Do you have more nightmares after watching these?
joe rogan
Not really.
jamie vernon
This movie, the program, they had to cut this out in 91, 92 because people were dying.
Apparently, I think a few kids died because they were drunk and then laying in traffic like he does in this scene right here.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
whitney cummings
I remember this.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
jamie vernon
He doesn't get hit, obviously, but they're just crazy drunk.
whitney cummings
The kids were doing it.
Oh, we definitely did that in Virginia.
What else was there to do?
jamie vernon
I never heard of anyone doing this.
whitney cummings
Really?
jamie vernon
Not until the movie came out.
whitney cummings
You would never go sit in the road?
joe rogan
What?
whitney cummings
That was like our main hobby.
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
You guys would go sit in the road?
whitney cummings
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Did you see that guy in Venezuela?
I think it was.
Was it Venezuela or somewhere where he shot a stop oil protestor?
Some guy just got out.
He's an American.
whitney cummings
I have seen this.
joe rogan
They were blocking the road.
I don't know if it was a stop oil.
It was some sort of a protest.
whitney cummings
Like sitting on the ground.
Yep.
joe rogan
This guy gets out, pulls out a gun, and just fucking shoots people.
jamie vernon
Was it this?
whitney cummings
It's like a ranger?
joe rogan
No.
whitney cummings
Oh.
Because I've seen the rangers drag him out of the road.
joe rogan
I'll send it to you, Jamie.
The video's available online, but this guy just pulls out a gun and starts whacking people.
77-year-old man from...
jamie vernon
Oh, I got Panama.
I got it here.
joe rogan
Is it Panama?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
Oof.
jamie vernon
I got it on the screen.
whitney cummings
Oh, this guy?
I wouldn't fuck with that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a video of it.
They stop the traffic and he walks up to them and he pulls a gun out and fucking whacks them.
whitney cummings
I do enjoy seeing someone who's like holding up a convenience store or something and then a pedestrian just pulls their gun out and handles it.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay, I just opened up my thing and another guy just stabs someone.
unidentified
Oh God.
This guy?
whitney cummings
This guy walking this slow.
jamie vernon
Yep.
He pulls out a gun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I'm not just gonna show this on the internet.
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh.
whitney cummings
Oh, he's waving it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he moves the stuff out of the way, but one guy gets in the way, and he just fucking shoots him.
whitney cummings
Kills him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
Right here.
He starts moving.
whitney cummings
He's like, I got...
joe rogan
They're talking shit to him.
whitney cummings
He's gotta get to the urologist.
joe rogan
Watch the guy with the blue hat.
whitney cummings
Once you get to that age, he's like, I have five more years to live.
I'd rather go to jail than sit in traffic.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
He's got his finger on the pistol, too.
His finger on the trigger.
whitney cummings
Why is anyone starting shit with him?
unidentified
Probably just shot.
jamie vernon
Well, they don't show this in this video, I guess.
They show right after it.
joe rogan
Let's see.
unidentified
What did you think was going to happen?
joe rogan
He shot two guys.
unidentified
In the shoulder?
joe rogan
But there's a video that you can see him actually shooting people.
jamie vernon
We don't need to be reposting that for...
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't need to see it.
I mean...
But these fucking idiots that just block the road as if that's somehow or another going to fix everything or the ones that go to fucking art galleries and smash paintings.
whitney cummings
I do think that there's a little bit of an invincibility complex that comes in with knowing you're being filmed.
Like, they probably think, oh, there's a camera here.
He's not going to shoot us.
joe rogan
Right.
whitney cummings
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Like, there's almost like, He's probably got cancer.
He's 77 years old.
whitney cummings
He doesn't give a fuck.
That's Clint Eastwood in every one of his movies.
Like, don't fuck with that guy.
But I do think sometimes people think, oh, there's a camera rolling.
No one's going to hurt me.
But it's like, that's not how everybody thinks.
That is so ridiculous.
The idea that I'm going to throw soup at a painting...
joe rogan
Yeah, and I'm going to glue myself to the wall.
whitney cummings
I mean, I also try to go like, okay, when I was in college, I had a lot of really dumb ideas.
That's what you're supposed to do in college.
You're supposed to have dumb ideas.
You're supposed to, like, be wrong, you know?
But, like, the idea that we're taking any of this seriously, like, is just wild.
joe rogan
It's just these, like, dumb virtue signaling kids that think they're going to fix the world by gluing themselves to a wall.
You fucking idiots.
whitney cummings
I look at them and I go, this is like a medication mental illness issue.
joe rogan
It's a mental illness issue.
It's a virtue signaling thing that you can do that now and get exorbitant amounts of attention where you couldn't do that before.
And then also the punishments are so minimal.
It's nothing that you have to worry about losing your livelihood and the rest of your life being a disaster because of it.
whitney cummings
I say this as someone who had blue hair.
Don't let anyone with blue hair in the museum.
joe rogan
But that's not the problem.
You can have blue hair and be cool.
The problem is these fucking young kids and most of them come from wealthy families.
whitney cummings
That's the take.
They probably had a Monet in their house and they have no respect for this shit.
joe rogan
They just think they're gonna...
But the fact that you're doing these priceless works of art from people who died centuries ago and your cause you think eclipses everything else.
These people are there enjoying this art.
They have nothing to do with the oil industry.
They're just enjoying at a museum the ability to stand in front of something that Picasso made.
Like, this is wild.
whitney cummings
And is the idea that it's going to help with global warming?
joe rogan
We're going to stop oil now.
They're children.
They're fucking children.
whitney cummings
I have some aunts in Virginia and they're so funny about the global warming thing.
They're like, it's freezing.
We can't afford heat.
We'd love for it to warm up a little bit.
I always call them for a little perspective.
They're like, we take the bus.
We would love for there to be less snow on the ground.
joe rogan
I'm always super suspicious about something that becomes a major movement that everybody has to be on board with.
The bottom line about the Earth, we are 100% affecting it.
It's measurable.
Human beings, our carbon dioxide output, in particular our pollutants, 100% what we're doing to the ocean, we're affecting the world in a negative way.
However, when it comes to the climate, when it comes to the temperature of the Earth, It has never been stable.
Ever, ever.
When you look at the earth over a course of 10,000, 15,000, whatever years, it goes up and it goes down.
I was reading this whole thing about how in Idaho, in, I think it was July or August of the 1930s, Had reached a temperature of 118 degrees.
Like the highest ever recorded temperature they have.
There was nothing going on there.
There was no fucking wholesale machines running and fucking diesel trucks everywhere.
There was none of that.
It's not stable.
The whole time the Earth has been here, it goes up and down.
And what Randall Carlson always says, he goes, yeah, global warming, it's bad because you have to move away from the coast.
He goes, but Global cooling is what's really scary.
That's what's really scary.
Because if we hit another legitimate ice age, most of North America was covered in a mile of ice up until 11,000 years ago.
whitney cummings
It always gets tricky, too, when the solution to the problem makes politicians richer, too.
joe rogan
And everybody richer.
Industry richer.
And people have a vested interest in pushing that narrative financially.
whitney cummings
And I'm not the person to be able to corroborate, but Schellenberger.
Michael Schellenberger was about these windmill farms that they were putting in the oceans that was killing all these whales and stuff.
And you're like, why is the pro-environment solution killing so many animals?
joe rogan
It definitely does.
Yeah, it's a fucking mess.
It's a mess.
But it's also people want to be on the side of something.
They want to be against this, against oil, against that.
Instead of everybody working together to figure out, like, what do we need to do to ensure the future?
And it's definitely not empowering these people that want to take away all your autonomy and all of your control.
That's not how to do it.
That's not how to do it.
whitney cummings
It seems like it's like, and I love what you, like your philosophy on hunting, because it's like factory farming, like what they do with the cows and stuff, they're saying is like such a problem.
joe rogan
Yeah, most factory farming is horrific.
whitney cummings
People should start hunting their own food.
joe rogan
That's hard too.
whitney cummings
Right?
joe rogan
Most people don't have time.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't have the interest, which I get too.
The real way to do it is regenerative farming.
You can get regenerative, like whether it's from White Oaks Pastures or Polyface Farms, there's a bunch of regenerative farms right here in Texas that are Organic farms.
You could find them.
They sell locally.
They're grass-fed meat.
These animals are just roaming around in a pasture.
It's all ethical.
That's what you want.
But then again, if you're going to have a city of like 20 million people and there's no one growing anything other than weed, you're going to have to get food to all those people.
How does Jack in the Box get their burgers?
Well, they have to have factory farmers.
whitney cummings
I can't remember what the country is that gives everybody two chickens, you know?
Like, and I was reading about something in Hawaii where they're trying to get rid of all the fruit trees and stuff.
So people can't even just get their own free food.
They can't even grow their own shit.
joe rogan
Why would they do that?
whitney cummings
I don't know.
I'm in a deep algorithm.
Yeah.
The Disney dick algorithm.
But it's like there is, I follow a couple, I'm learning how to pickle.
Are you really?
joe rogan
Preserve things?
whitney cummings
Yeah, just to be able to grow your own food and be able to...
joe rogan
Once you have a baby, are you going to move to the mountains or something?
whitney cummings
I think so.
I think I might.
You know I'm looking at places in Texas.
I really want to just be a full-on Dr. Quinn medicine woman.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be awesome.
And you could have zebras out here.
whitney cummings
Oh, sick.
unidentified
Did you hear that?
whitney cummings
I'm sold!
joe rogan
That was so real.
That was so real.
Oh, sick.
Like, Whitney's gonna have a fucking zebra, 100%.
whitney cummings
Did you hear about, um, uh, who's the big drug dealer in South America?
joe rogan
Pablo Escobar.
whitney cummings
His hippos?
Hippos, yeah.
Yeah, they're everywhere.
joe rogan
Fucking killing everybody.
whitney cummings
They say in 20 years there's going to be a thousand feral hippos.
I'm like, put me in, coach.
I'll take those hippos, move to Texas, zebras, hippos, chickens.
joe rogan
Fucking dangerous.
whitney cummings
Oh, they're so violent.
joe rogan
They're fucking dangerous.
whitney cummings
They're awesome.
joe rogan
That's a crazy animal.
They kill more people in Africa than any other animal.
whitney cummings
Is that true?
joe rogan
I think, yeah.
I think they kill...
A lot of people every year.
I think it's hundreds of people every year die from hippos.
whitney cummings
Just by charging or they...
unidentified
They eat you.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just smash you in half.
whitney cummings
It's fucking wild, dude.
When you see them eat a watermelon, you're like, ah.
joe rogan
Dude, that's your head.
whitney cummings
I love that Pablo Escobar just had that.
I wonder if...
Is that part of how we kill people?
Just throw them to the hippos?
unidentified
Probably.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
I bet.
joe rogan
Why not?
I pity kill people every different way you could think of.
I mean, when you're on coke and you're a billionaire and you're running an entire country with bullets...
whitney cummings
That's such a funny way.
Just like, ah, this is a hippo guy.
But I do.
I want to start doing all that.
I want to start growing my own food.
joe rogan
I'm getting into it.
You should.
Yeah, you can have your own small farm and just completely exist off of your own land.
Yep.
That's totally doable for someone.
And that's literally what people used to do.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
In the early days of America.
whitney cummings
Just to be able to have an option.
I mean, even like it's, you know, I'm, you'll love this.
I'm pretty much only eating steak and eggs right now.
You know, being pregnant, I feel better pregnant than I felt not pregnant.
'Cause when I wasn't, I was eating what I thought I was supposed to eat.
I got to eat vegetables and oatmeal for breakfast.
I was eating so much sugar and trash.
And when you're pregnant, you only eat what you're craving.
Like, your body is like, tonight you're having a steak, two eggs, one scuba peanut butter, and four raspberries.
joe rogan
So you just did it out of desire?
whitney cummings
It's just all I'm craving.
joe rogan
Interesting.
whitney cummings
It's all I've been craving.
Everything else kind of made me nauseous or made me feel run down.
But also, this is going to probably get me in a little bit of trouble, I'm also obviously not on birth control.
And I was on birth control for a while.
joe rogan
Why would that get you in trouble?
whitney cummings
Look, birth control was just not good for me, personally.
joe rogan
But I think there's a lot of problems with it for almost everybody.
whitney cummings
And there's also a lot of problems with maybe having...
I'm glad I didn't have a kid at 25 either.
That would have maybe been a problem too.
But my energy levels were low.
I was always...
I mean, there was one I was on last year that made me pretty manic.
Manic.
And what they say is they say, oh, it makes your body think it's pregnant, right?
I've now been pregnant.
It's not the same.
It is not the same at all.
You know, because I was like, oh, like, being hypervigilant, being a little paranoid, being kind of always a little bit tired, putting weight on.
Like, that's not my experience now that I'm actually pregnant.
And I feel like I lost a lot of time mentally to being on birth control.
joe rogan
Interesting.
So it affected your thinking process.
whitney cummings
I feel like now I'm so much more mentally clear.
I mean, there's a lot of other variables.
Like, you know, I started...
You know, I... You guys saw.
I went through, you know, kind of a little bit of a rough patch, lost my mom, was smoking too much weed, which I'm sure I could do again in the future.
Like, I just...
I was doing it to check out instead of check-in.
joe rogan
Right.
whitney cummings
I was doing it to numb myself from, you know, pain.
But my mom was dying right in front of me in hospice and I couldn't cry.
unidentified
Right.
whitney cummings
And I was like, this is weird.
It's weird.
I mean, she had been in bed for 12 years.
I was kind of slowly grieving it, but it's not normal.
And I was like, I got to go off birth control.
There's something off here with my emotions.
And look, all my exes listening love you, but it also makes you attracted.
You smell pheromones differently.
Women that are on birth control, there was a study where they're attracted to men with more feminized faces.
They say that you should go off birth control for a year if you're engaged to a man before you actually get married just to make sure that you're still attracted.
Really?
Because it just hacks your body chemistry so much.
You look for a different kind of man when you're pregnant versus when you're not.
So, yeah, all the hormones, I think, really did a number on my brain.
My sex drive was really low.
I had no energy.
joe rogan
It makes sense.
I mean, they're monkeying with your hormonal balance.
To trick your body into thinking that it's pregnant so that you can't get pregnant.
And you're taking it every month forever and ever.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
And some people get blood clots.
A friend of mine is a 17-year-old daughter.
Apparently, if you smoke cigarettes, it's very dangerous to be on birth control and smoke cigarettes.
whitney cummings
That's really dangerous.
They put me on it.
I mean, these studies are all public, but when they first tested it in the 70s, I think at least 13 women in Puerto Rico died from taking it.
And then also, in addition to the hormones, there's all the...
Endocrine disruptors and hormone shit that were, you know, there's a lot of other variables too that are probably exacerbating it.
But I just felt like a zombie a lot of the time.
And then they put me on Adderall because I was too...
And then it just becomes this whack-a-mole thing where you're like, how about instead of adding all these other things, I just subtract this thing.
And then I was put on Prozac.
And then I was like smoking weed to try to fall asleep because I couldn't sleep.
But then it was like, I just need to get off all of this.
You know?
So in January, I just went off literally everything.
joe rogan
Well, you seem remarkably balanced.
whitney cummings
Oh, thanks.
joe rogan
You do.
You're like, you're there all the time.
Because sometimes you would be off to the races.
whitney cummings
Yeah, I mean, I definitely am an intense person, you know, just by default.
But I think that being on birth control, like, I was just, I was kind of, like, exhausted and manic at the same time, all the time.
joe rogan
It makes sense.
whitney cummings
You know, and it does put you in a state of hypervigilance, you know, being pregnant.
Yeah, I'm nesting, I'm, you know, want to be organized, obviously.
I'm thinking about, you know, the kid, obviously, and taking care of myself.
joe rogan
But I look back at the time that I was on a lot of that birth control shit, and I, It's also people say, well, you know, birth control led to this sexual revolution where women had freedom.
They could do whatever they didn't have to worry about being knocked up by a guy if they wanted to have recreational sex.
And so people plotted it for that.
But no one thought about the long term consequences.
And then also, like, the difference in how people interact with each other.
There was a consequence when people were living in the 1930s or whatever.
You could get pregnant.
Everyone was aware of it.
There was a danger to it.
And when you could just take a pill and not sweat it, then it's just like this change in your natural behavior.
whitney cummings
And yeah, I guess I feel like I stayed in a lot of...
I mean, granted, look, not that I was ready to have a kid before now, not that I was ready to commit to anyone, like that I wasn't fully cooked as a person yet or whatever, but I found myself staying in a lot of relationships that I probably shouldn't have stayed in.
That if I hadn't been on birth control, I'd be like, oh, this isn't the father of my kid.
I should move on.
Or you end up getting chemically addicted to somebody through having good sex with someone or getting all the oxytocin or whatever, and then you end up staying in a lot of relationships you maybe shouldn't stay in instead of just working on yourself.
You know, I initially went on it so crazy.
I think about all like the weird, you know, because I used to do for money when I first moved to LA and I was broke.
I would do focus groups and I would, you know, take these experimental pills and do these like clinical trials and stuff.
But when I was, I want to say 15, I went on Accutane, which is that acne medication.
And they make you take birth control simultaneously so that, you know, that's the first time I went on it, you know, at 15 years old.
So I was on these, I was on Accutane.
joe rogan
Santino said it was the worst thing he ever took.
whitney cummings
I mean, the main side effect is anal bleeding.
joe rogan
That's the main one?
whitney cummings
Yeah.
And you can't absorb vitamin D well.
I mean, there's a lot of problems.
joe rogan
It made Santino super depressed.
whitney cummings
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he said it was fucking horrible, but it did fix his acne.
whitney cummings
Yeah, it works.
It's a miracle.
I mean, because it shrinks your...
I think it's a huge dose of vitamin A, I believe is what it is.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
But it shrinks your oil glands.
joe rogan
Some patients may develop tears in the lining of the anus, which may cause pain and bleeding, especially during bowel movements.
Duh.
When's it going to cause pain?
You take massive shits and your shit pipe is ripped open.
whitney cummings
You know, so I was put on it at that and I just think about like all the prescription drugs like I was put on at such a, you know, young age and, you know, God, what kind of impact that had.
joe rogan
There's so many people that are on them and so many people that are young and they don't even get a chance to make that decision for themselves.
They're certainly not making an informed decision and so many Parents are just listening to their doctors and the doctors are just pill pushers.
whitney cummings
Yep.
And I was actually put on – I mean this was a couple years ago.
And I didn't take it that much but five milligrams of time-release Adderall to sleep.
So I guess it's like if you actually have sort of ADHD – Adderall calms you down.
And I'm like, maybe I just need to be tired longer.
Maybe I just need to get up and do some shit.
Maybe I just need to write some jokes.
Like maybe I just am going to go to sleep a little bit later and wake up a little bit later.
joe rogan
And there's another one, like the Ambien people.
People that have to take Ambien to go to sleep.
whitney cummings
Dude, have you taken it?
joe rogan
No.
whitney cummings
Oh, dude.
You should try it.
Everyone that takes Ambien, I'm kind of like, my man.
I've taken it before.
It's pretty amazing.
The problem is I think you try to fight it because it feels good.
And I would wake up the next morning and there would just be open cans of peas that I would sleep eat.
I would wake up.
I remember one morning I woke up.
I thought I had been shot.
I was covered in barbecue sauce.
I had just eaten barbecue.
It makes you do wild shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Every now and then I'm like, we should probably at least try the drug that everyone's on, going crazy on, just to see.
joe rogan
The problem is if you like it and it ruins your life.
That's what I'm worried about with a lot of drugs.
I'd love to try Adderall, but I don't want that to be a thing that I lean on sometimes.
whitney cummings
When I wrote a book, I took it a couple times, like 20 milligrams.
Like, you gotta really make sure...
Like, we already are pretty motivated people.
You gotta really make sure that you lock into the thing you want to focus on, or else you'll just be...
joe rogan
All over the place.
whitney cummings
Yeah, or you'll just be, like, cleaning one thing for four and a half hours.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's meth behavior, too.
whitney cummings
Isn't it boiled down to being meth?
joe rogan
It's pretty close.
It's definitely meth's cousin.
whitney cummings
And what's the difference between that and Ritalin?
Sorry, Ritalin.
I know people that are still on Ritalin.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ritalin's a little bit different.
whitney cummings
And Modafinil is another one, right?
joe rogan
That is Provigil.
whitney cummings
Oh, Provigil.
joe rogan
Provigil and NuVigil.
Originally, there were drugs that I believe were developed for performance enhancing, like for cognitive performance, but then they realized that you can't prescribe it for that, so they started prescribing it for narcolepsy.
But it keeps you from going to sleep.
But it's a weird one.
Because it doesn't make you feel like you're high.
But there's an interesting reaction that your brain has.
A lot of people are on it.
A lot of people are on it.
And it's so effective that I think Tim Ferriss said when he was writing his book about different hacks that he didn't put it in there.
Because he felt like people would be eating it like candy.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
I mean, I gotta say, when we were doing the roasts last year, a lot of the writers and comics, they were doing the chocolate, like mushrooms and chocolate, like three milligrams of mushrooms and chocolate, and I did that.
That felt like...
I felt so clear.
I felt energized.
I was like...
joe rogan
Microdosing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a good move.
whitney cummings
Whatever my brain chemistry was, I thought it would chill me out and make me sort of numb or not funny.
It made me feel very...
Because maybe I wasn't bogged down in...
I don't know what it does.
It makes you feel...
There was no negativity towards myself.
I would pitch a joke and not be like, that was a stupid joke, you idiot.
So the voices went away.
But then I did a little too much and scheduled a call with a maritime lawyer to look for the Scientology ships.
joe rogan
Why did you want to look for the Scientology ships?
Find the homeless people?
unidentified
Where are they putting the homeless people?
whitney cummings
With me, it's like the microdose has to stay micro or else I really need to know where Shelly Miscavige is.
joe rogan
Is that a thing?
whitney cummings
I mean, my guess is she's probably involved.
I don't think she's an innocent.
Everyone's like, where's Shelly Miscavige?
Let's find her.
I'm like, I bet she's an asshole too.
joe rogan
But is that a thing?
Like she's missing still?
whitney cummings
Yeah, I think she's still missing.
But I did get kind of obsessed with the maritime law, how Scientologists are able to operate on the ships because there's maritime law.
They can get away with that.
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that one of the main reasons why L. Ron Hubbard started that?
Because he was probably in trouble.
whitney cummings
Yeah, and it's also why billionaires, I'm like, why are you docking your yacht a hundred yards from land?
Why aren't you just staying in the best hotel in the world?
Oh, because of what you can get away with.
joe rogan
Also, you have a yacht.
whitney cummings
You also do that.
joe rogan
It's a fucking dope ass house that floats around the ocean.
What are you talking about?
unidentified
Why would you go to a hotel?
whitney cummings
Yeah, I guess if I had a yacht...
Okay, I guess if I had a yacht...
joe rogan
Fuck out of here with that hotel.
whitney cummings
But it's like, I guess I got really into the laws of how Epstein Island...
Epstein Island had all these plastic cows that someone would move from above or something.
joe rogan
Oh, so it looked like it's agricultural land?
Really?
whitney cummings
This is why I can't do mushrooms, Joe.
unidentified
Jesus!
joe rogan
They had fake agriculture?
whitney cummings
Yeah, so that it would move.
I just love the idea that it was someone's job every morning to get up and move the fake cows.
joe rogan
It is weird.
That's the whole thing about fishing.
It's like international waters.
They can kind of get away with a lot of shit.
They can just scoop up everything that's out there.
They get caught in their nets.
whitney cummings
A lot goes on out there.
A lot of wild shit happens out there.
joe rogan
LAPD closed Shelley Miscavige's missing person case after a woman claimed she was the Scientology leader's wife despite the fact they had mismatched fingerprints and footage of their rendezvous was mysteriously scrambled.
whitney cummings
Scrambled?
joe rogan
She was last seen publicly at her father's funeral in 2007. What?
whitney cummings
I mean...
joe rogan
Would they close the case in 2013?
After meeting a woman who didn't...
So it's been going on for that long?
whitney cummings
That she's been missing.
But do we really think she was...
I mean, she was probably blowing him every time he got a new celebrity.
And they said, you got John Travolta.
Like, I'm sure...
joe rogan
That is wild, though.
That's wild.
unidentified
16 years.
joe rogan
If she really is missing?
unidentified
Whoa.
whitney cummings
16 years.
joe rogan
That whole thing is absolutely bonkers.
They're still out there running around.
whitney cummings
Not only, but also, kids born into it, that's where I go, that's not okay, if you're born into it.
But if you're the kind of person that's susceptible to Scientology, is it not a good idea for you?
I mean, it's like, what would they be doing if they weren't in that castle in LA? Other things?
joe rogan
What would you be doing?
If they weren't making iPhones, they'd starve to death.
If they weren't in the mines digging out those precious rare earth minerals.
whitney cummings
If you're an adult that's susceptible to Scientology at this point, I don't know.
Maybe you need it.
joe rogan
That was my joke about Mormons.
Do you remember when, was it Proposition 8?
They were trying to stop gay marriage?
And they actually did.
They overturned gay marriage in California.
But the Mormons spent the most money on it.
They spent a ton of money to try to reverse gay marriage.
And I said, but if you're a Mormon, you should be afraid of gay people.
Because if someone can talk you into being a Mormon...
They could talk you into sucking their dick.
They just need a little more alone time with you.
whitney cummings
A plus.
Everyone I know that's Mormon is gay, by the way.
unidentified
Maybe it's just because the ones that leave come to LA. Well, I think it's a very strange...
joe rogan
I mean, there's a lot of really cool Mormons.
I should say this because I spent a lot of time in Utah and I have a lot of Mormon friends and I love them to death.
They're the nicest cult members.
They're very polite.
They believe in community.
They believe in what they're doing.
But then there's these sects of Mormonism.
whitney cummings
Sect.
joe rogan
Of Mormonism, where you have these guys that have like 19 underage wives that are all dressed like fucking pilgrims.
whitney cummings
You know that weird shit?
unidentified
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
They always find those guys.
whitney cummings
Be sweet, be...
That's the song that they sing.
Stay sweet, or is it be sweet?
What's the motto that they inculcate into the girls?
Be sweet.
joe rogan
But there's a few of those guys, right?
whitney cummings
They all look a little inbred, though.
unidentified
They get in trouble.
joe rogan
They probably are.
whitney cummings
Okay, I'm just saying.
What's the point of having a young bride if her forehead's that big?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
You put a Spider-Man helmet on her.
whitney cummings
Interesting.
joe rogan
Keep sweet, pray, and obey.
whitney cummings
Yeah, they sing this song.
Oh, blue hair.
It looks like they have blue hair.
Me during the pandemic.
joe rogan
Warren Jeffs in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
whitney cummings
Apparently Salt Lake City has the highest plastic surgery rate because it's women going in after having 12 kids getting their bodies shellacked back together.
unidentified
Imagine you have 12 kids by the time you're 30. What a bum deal.
whitney cummings
Bum deal.
joe rogan
Because it's like all the guy does is have sex, which they always do and they want to do anyway.
And the woman has to carry this fucking baby for nine whole months.
Her body changes.
And then on the way out, the cooter gets blown out.
whitney cummings
Okay, I'm about to have this happen.
Joe, this is not the time.
unidentified
Ask for an extra stitch.
This is not the time to say this.
joe rogan
Well, it's all numb.
You might want to stitch it up yourself.
whitney cummings
It's going to go back.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll go back.
whitney cummings
I'm going to do the cold plunge and it'll...
joe rogan
No.
Shrivel right back up.
But it's also stretch marks and some women get these, like, different people's skin has different levels of elasticity.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some people, they just gain a little bit of weight and they get stretch marks and it appears that it's genetic.
whitney cummings
Okay.
joe rogan
And so some women, they can have a baby and their body shrinks right back to normal and they have toned abs.
And other women, they just, their stomach is just a mess.
And so then they have to hack off a giant chunk of skin and stitch it all together.
whitney cummings
Because I've been doing these exercises so that your abs don't tear apart.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
whitney cummings
You've got to do this whole thing.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
whitney cummings
It's like a specific, it's not Pilates per se, but it's to keep, to make sure that they don't rip.
And I'm inducing like a week early.
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Why are you going to do that?
whitney cummings
Because you can kind of do it at like one week sooner or later.
joe rogan
What do they use to induce?
whitney cummings
Pitocin, I think it is.
joe rogan
Are there side effects associated with Pitocin?
Pitocin.
whitney cummings
Keeping a tight-ass pussy.
unidentified
Whoa.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Let's Google what are the side effects associated with Pitocin.
Because whenever someone says something like induce, I'm like, hmm.
Do you know that that was originally the use of LSD? No.
Yeah.
I think that was what they originally were trying to formulate LSD for.
unidentified
They were trying to induce labor.
whitney cummings
I thought it was to brainwash people.
joe rogan
They eventually started using it for that, too.
They started using it for a bunch of things once they realized.
But I'm pretty sure the initial uses of LSD... That's wild.
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Is it true that LSD, I've only done it once, the tabs, that you have flashbacks later in life?
joe rogan
I bet if you crank your brain up to 10 for too long, I bet it's a little residual effect.
whitney cummings
I do.
I mean, Christina Pazitsky, love you.
She told me I'm just doing her birth plan.
She's like, the second you walk in, she gave me the whole...
I'm just doing what she did.
joe rogan
That's smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are there side effects associated with Pitocin use?
unidentified
Yes.
whitney cummings
Uh-oh.
joe rogan
Oh, yes.
whitney cummings
Oh, no.
joe rogan
There's side effects to everything, but...
What does Pitocin do to the baby?
Useful in situations with mother and labor, experiencing weak contractions, labor isn't progressing normally.
However, the use of Pitocin should be treated as a delicate process that needs to be monitored properly or else it could be dangerous complications.
If the Pitocin is misused during labor, it puts both the baby and the mother at risk due to hyperstimulation.
Hmm.
whitney cummings
See, but it does, I guess the bigger the baby gets, the more the risk of a C-section comes.
So this might a little bit lower the risk of...
joe rogan
That'll protect your cooter.
whitney cummings
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
Go out through the hatch.
whitney cummings
Just full Sigourney Weaver and Alien.
Right out through the sunroof.
joe rogan
Let's go.
whitney cummings
But also I want to have another one at some point.
And if you get a cesarean, you have to wait a little longer.
I can't have an only child.
They're weird.
joe rogan
Right.
You can adopt.
whitney cummings
That's true.
From where?
Have you seen that there's a price list?
joe rogan
It depends on where you live.
If you live in LA, you should definitely adopt from Africa to get some social cred.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Adopt from the poorest village.
whitney cummings
I mean...
joe rogan
Where do people get their babies?
whitney cummings
I don't know, but there's a price list that there's different ethnicities or different prices.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
whitney cummings
I swear to God.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
whitney cummings
I swear to God.
joe rogan
What's the cheapest?
whitney cummings
I'm gonna let you take this one.
joe rogan
Young mom of 22 wants to have more than 100 babies with wealthy older husband.
whitney cummings
Okay.
jamie vernon
They've already got like 26 kids or something like that.
joe rogan
How?
jamie vernon
Surrogates.
whitney cummings
Oh!
A lot of people are doing the surrogate deal now.
joe rogan
Boy, that's weird.
That's a weird one.
whitney cummings
Right in the womb.
joe rogan
That's weird.
That's a weird one.
And then you also gotta think, like, you have to monitor the diet of the person that's having the baby, make sure they're not doing drugs.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
If they're not gonna raise the kid, why not smoke crack?
whitney cummings
Right.
There is a, like, you know, if the surrogate doesn't eat well, the baby will just start eating, leeching from their bones and brain.
So it will do a lot of damage to the surrogate, maybe more than the baby I was reading.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's osteoporosis, right?
Some of that comes from that.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm doing, they're saying, I'm doing the fish oil like crazy.
Do you eat?
I'm not a fish person.
joe rogan
I love fish.
whitney cummings
Yeah, but the Fukushima thing really freaks me out.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've talked to people that are terrified of it, and then I've talked to Elon, who's not even remotely worried about it.
whitney cummings
Okay.
His brain works pretty well.
joe rogan
I think he's probably more along the correct path.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love fish.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jamie hates it.
unidentified
Look at him.
whitney cummings
Really?
joe rogan
Hates it.
Sushi?
whitney cummings
You don't do sushi?
unidentified
What?
whitney cummings
Aw, man.
joe rogan
He's from Ohio.
They just eat potatoes and stuff.
whitney cummings
Oh yeah, there's not a lot of water there.
joe rogan
They eat steak and potatoes.
jamie vernon
It's a giant lake.
whitney cummings
Huh?
jamie vernon
It's a giant lake.
whitney cummings
No salmon?
None of it?
unidentified
Nothing.
whitney cummings
Crab?
jamie vernon
I can do crab legs.
whitney cummings
Okay.
jamie vernon
Not a lot of it.
whitney cummings
Delicious, though.
jamie vernon
Butter.
Necessary.
joe rogan
Lobster?
jamie vernon
I've had it.
I had deep fried lobster here.
joe rogan
Deep fried lobster is the bomb.
That was at Three Forks, right?
jamie vernon
It sure was.
joe rogan
Chicken fried lobster.
Ooh, it's so good.
whitney cummings
The only thing I wanted to eat while I was here is red ash, but it burned down?
joe rogan
Burned down.
whitney cummings
Don't name your restaurant that.
joe rogan
Well, they had a giant live fire grill area.
I don't know.
I honestly am just guessing.
I don't know where.
See, what started the fire at Red Ash?
But the guy who ran Red Ash, John Carver, opened up Jay Carver's.
whitney cummings
I hear it's great.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so good.
whitney cummings
So good.
joe rogan
That's my favorite spot.
whitney cummings
I should have gone.
Or maybe I'll go tonight.
joe rogan
There's so many spots to go to, though.
There's this new Mexican spot that we've been talking about called Bacalar.
whitney cummings
I saw that, Bri.
I saw it on your Instagram.
joe rogan
I found a new Korean.
It's not new, but it's open until 2 o'clock in the morning.
It's called Soha.
It's amazing.
Like, super authentic Korean food.
whitney cummings
And what do you get when you get Korean?
joe rogan
Well, there I got this...
It was squid and...
It was like this spicy squid and something.
Oh, squid and pork belly.
It was fantastic.
It was really good.
whitney cummings
Do you ever make bone broth out of your elk bones?
joe rogan
No, I don't.
But I do drink bone broth every day.
whitney cummings
Me too.
joe rogan
Yeah, I buy kettle and fire.
whitney cummings
Nice.
joe rogan
I get a lot of that stuff and I drink Bone broth pretty much at least once or not twice a day.
jamie vernon
It says ductwork repairs going on.
It says fire in the ducts.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
So I think the plan is...
So they have one of those things.
That's a Grillworks grill.
I have one of those at home.
They're the shit.
That's the same kind of grill that they have at my favorite restaurant in Vegas, which is Bizarre Meats.
This incredible steakhouse.
whitney cummings
Wow.
joe rogan
They have live fire going on.
The steaks are on these Argentine grills.
Do you know what those are?
Where you crank it?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
So it raises and lowers.
So they start the steaks up very high.
So they slowly bring them up to temperature.
And then lower it down as the meat gets.
And then they sear it over the fire.
whitney cummings
I'm really trying to learn.
I'm learning how to cook steaks better.
It's such an art.
joe rogan
I can give you some tips.
I'm pretty good at that shit.
whitney cummings
I think you can.
joe rogan
That's my thing.
whitney cummings
Where are you on the egg?
The green egg?
joe rogan
You can.
You can definitely use a green egg.
They're great.
That's a Kamado type grill.
I used to have one.
Not a green egg, but it was a Kamado.
I think it's called Kamado Kamada.
But they make these really cool ones.
Super artistic, beautiful tile on the outside of them.
whitney cummings
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, I left it at one of my houses when I sold the house.
whitney cummings
Because I had to take out my grill in the house I live in in California because any kind of meat, the coyotes, I would wake up, coyotes would just be standing on the grill in the morning.
So it's like I need something I can bring in the garage and then roll back out.
joe rogan
It's called a.22 with subsonic ammo.
whitney cummings
I know, I did.
Cam Haynes was like, I'll come take care of that in two seconds.
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you want to be able to shoot multiple times.
The problem with bows and arrows is it just takes too long to reload.
You can get one, but with subsonic ammo, they don't even know what the fuck happened.
They just get popped.
whitney cummings
But also, it's whack-a-mole with them.
You can't kill them, right?
joe rogan
You're never going to eradicate them.
In fact, it's even worse because when you kill coyotes, when they yell out at night, they're kind of doing roll call.
And when one of the coyotes shows up missing, the female coyote will have more babies.
whitney cummings
She'll make a hormone to just make more pups.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a great book about coyotes called Coyote America that my friend Dan Flores wrote and it's fantastic and it just details how unusual they are and how they evolved to be that way because they were being killed by wolves in the West.
They're in every city in the country.
Every city.
whitney cummings
They're in New York.
They're in Central Park.
joe rogan
Yep.
They're everywhere.
whitney cummings
They're so cunning.
joe rogan
Have you seen the video of the guy on a boat and there's a coyote swimming in the water and he reaches down and grabs it by the back of its neck?
whitney cummings
No, where is this?
joe rogan
I just watched it yesterday.
I had it on Instagram.
You could probably find it, Jamie.
If not, I might have it saved.
whitney cummings
It doesn't seem like they have rabies that often, though.
They do?
unidentified
I'm sure they have rabies.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
whitney cummings
They probably have everything.
They do seem fearless.
Like, I will have to chase one.
I go after it.
They look at you.
They're, like, mocking you.
joe rogan
They're not scared of you.
They'll attack your kids.
That's a really scary one.
whitney cummings
There was one who carried a kid in Arizona off of a porch.
One tried to go, someone put their baby carrier down, went right for it.
They don't give a shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's food to them.
They don't think of it as your kid.
whitney cummings
You leave something vulnerable.
Also, there's the owls who have really gotten brazen.
I've got these dog toys.
I have pit bulls, so I have these, you know, it looks like a fake squirrel or whatever.
I'm like, where are all the toys?
And there's a tree right behind my house, and all of the dog toys are just hanging.
It looks like some Blair Witch Project shit.
They just pick them up.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a different one.
That guy found one that was in the lake.
jamie vernon
When I was looking it up, there's like a video from every year, from the last few years, one in Marzer's Vineyard.
They were finding it.
This one in New York City.
whitney cummings
So it's not a dog.
Okay, so did it try to bite them?
joe rogan
It says he's now in the care of veterinarians.
whitney cummings
Yeah, that means euthanasia.
joe rogan
They're swimming in the East River.
unidentified
That's not...
jamie vernon
Hilton Head, Biscayne Bay, Ocean.
whitney cummings
That's in Florida...
jamie vernon
New York's East River.
joe rogan
What are they doing?
Google guy grabs coyote from boat.
jamie vernon
Boater tries to find one in the dead of night.
This happens.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Which specifically...
I mean, if it's on Instagram...
joe rogan
That's the Woodland Hills one.
The coyote attacks a toddler in Woodland Hills.
whitney cummings
That one right there with the pink...
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah, that one's fucked.
Look at this.
It's just dragging the baby across.
whitney cummings
That's like a five-year-old.
joe rogan
I know.
No, not quite that old, but that's scary, man.
whitney cummings
How is the parent not seeing that this is happening?
joe rogan
They didn't hear it.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they were on the other side of the car.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck, man.
Right there.
whitney cummings
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Things dragging your kid away.
So scary.
And then your kid just is horrified now.
They literally almost got eaten.
whitney cummings
A friend of mine was walking with her dog up in, like, the hills.
A coyote comes up, you know, kind of stalking them, chases them away, keeps walking, turns around, 15 minutes later, six coyotes.
He had gone and got his friend, came back.
Because they'll try to surround him.
joe rogan
Jesus.
whitney cummings
Because my dogs will fight them, but if it's one of my dogs, and six or seven surround them, and what they want to do is, I got this coyote guy comes over to say, you got to get the rollers to put in the fencing, because they can jump.
They're vampires, so you got to put these rollers on the top, so they jump and roll.
joe rogan
So they can't jump off.
whitney cummings
Jump and roll, and then you got to go, I think it's like three or four feet into the ground or something, because they'll come under, and he goes, because I'm like, oh, well, I'll hear it.
You know what I mean?
He's like, no, no, you won't hear it.
Because the way the coyotes bait dogs is first they'll play with them.
First they'll play with them, and then their friends will come down and surround them, or they'll make the dog chase them to wear them out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And then just take them back to the den.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've told this story before, but there was a guy that I used to, he worked at a pet food store that I used to go to, and he also worked at a veterinarian's clinic, and they had a dog come in.
It's a big pit bull.
It's a big, muscular pit bull, and it was covered with scars.
Like, it's whole body gets stitched up, hundreds of stitches.
And the guy brought it in.
He's like, I don't know what happened.
You know, he's just, he got out of the fence, and this is how I found him.
So this guy follows a blood trail that his dog left behind up into the hills where he finds nine dead coyotes.
He said it looked like Vietnam.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
He said it was just like Saving Private Ryan or something.
It was just dead coyotes everywhere.
I just picked the wrong dog.
whitney cummings
That's it.
Wrong dog.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Wrong dog.
That's how mine are.
I just don't want them to get rabies or anything like that, you know?
joe rogan
But you know they make those giant pit bulls where people just breed them larger and larger and larger.
And they're fearless.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
They're not afraid of pain at all.
whitney cummings
Yep.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
And so, like, a fight is, like, fun for them.
They're wagging their tail.
whitney cummings
Yeah, all that extra skin.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
You know?
joe rogan
But it's also their pain tolerance is fucking extraordinary.
Because they were bred that way.
whitney cummings
It's also crazy when you think, like, bulldogs and stuff, right?
They were bred to fight bulls to the death.
And that's what all those wrinkles are for, so that the blood would drain down.
joe rogan
Is that what it's for?
whitney cummings
I think so.
joe rogan
I just thought they just raised them tough.
They'd have bull baiting, where they'd have a bull chained up, and then the dogs would attack the bull.
They had bear baiting they used to do with bears.
They'd sick dogs on bears.
whitney cummings
That was just entertainment back then.
You would just watch that fight go on and on and on.
joe rogan
Yeah, you didn't have Instagram.
You didn't have a good algorithm.
whitney cummings
Like, we were never, human nature-wise, we were never particularly moral creatures.
joe rogan
This is as good as we've ever been.
whitney cummings
I feel like this is...
joe rogan
We're better now than ever.
whitney cummings
Yeah, this is the best case scenario in terms of what we're seeing happen.
joe rogan
And we're still insanely tribal.
You see these fights break out, these Israel-Palestine protests and some old man in LA got beaten to death the other day.
They hit him over the head with a microphone, internally hemorrhaged and died.
whitney cummings
That guy needs to drink some of the LA water, get that fentanyl in the system, chill out.
I know.
In my brain, maybe I'm just trying to get out of it.
I'm like, that person must be on drugs.
That person's on drugs.
Or are people just this riled up by...
joe rogan
People are riled up.
People, they feel like it's something they're supposed to do.
And whenever there's a cause, like free Palestine or free Ukraine, or whatever the fucking cause is, people feel justified in doing horrific things to other people because they're on the right side.
And that is one of the things that, I mean, that is literally what Hamas did to the Israelis.
That's what the Nazis did to the Jews.
It's what people have done forever when they can other a different group.
And it's also what the Israelis have done to some of the Palestinians, too.
They other groups.
You can turn a group into some nonhumans that are your enemies, some orcs.
whitney cummings
Just like reduce them to objectify.
joe rogan
It seems to be a part of how human beings existed and thrived in tribes.
You almost had to develop that sort of skill because if you didn't, you'd be attacked by other tribes and you wouldn't be able to handle the situation.
You would make a mistake and treat them like another person and they would kill you and then you wouldn't live and then they would kill your family.
People had to develop this ability to be horrific to the others.
whitney cummings
I go back to—my dad used to manage a hotel in West Virginia, Hilltop House, where sort of the Civil War kind of started.
And I go to these Civil War—something happens when you turn 40 or maybe where you get obsessed with the Civil War and Hitler.
I don't know.
I can't get enough Civil War stuff right now.
And you're like, it was so recently that we were just fighting each other with swords.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings
In fields.
joe rogan
Oh, so recently.
whitney cummings
That was so recent.
joe rogan
I just had this guy on, Elliott West.
He wrote this book, Continental Reckoning, The American Rest in the Age of Expansion.
This fucking incredible book.
And he's just an incredible guy, but he's talking about all the things that happened when people settled in America and made their way across the country and the expansion and what the horrific consequences were.
whitney cummings
Also, there's something, and I know I always bring this up with you, the Calcio-Historica thing.
When that fight happens in Italy, violence goes basically down to zero.
unidentified
Wow.
whitney cummings
And it's like, isn't, I mean, if MMA didn't exist, I'm sure there would be so much more violence.
joe rogan
Perhaps.
whitney cummings
The catharsis of it.
joe rogan
I mean, that was one of the reasons why they invented football.
They invented football as like a substitute for war.
whitney cummings
Just to get it out of your system.
joe rogan
You give someone something to compete against that isn't killing each other.
Because human beings have been killing each other in competition forever.
When you grew up, you wanted to be a soldier.
When you grew up, you wanted to fight for your country.
It was noble.
And when you needed to fight off the enemy, you wanted to raise a kid that was a soldier.
So it became a part of what it meant to be a male human being growing up.
whitney cummings
And part of the Second Amendment, right, is about being part of the volunteer infantry, right?
joe rogan
Well, it's the maintained militia.
And the idea of the militia originally was to fight off a tyrannical government.
I mean, it was literally what got us here to this point.
They moved to America to escape the tyranny of Europe, of England.
They got here and they said, we must have the right to keep and bear arms because the first thing a tyrant is going to do is disarm the population.
Because then they can't rise up and then they can't have a well-armed militia.
whitney cummings
That's so interesting because I was talking to someone recently about the history of stand-up in America and it being different than what the court jester's job was.
Because stand-up is uniquely American, like hip-hop, right?
Uniquely American invention, not that old.
Whereas the court jester, people are like, no, there's been the court jester.
This is a different thing.
The court jester's job was to deliver bad news to the king, right?
But also to make fun of the king.
And if the king didn't laugh, the idea was power had corrupted his brain in some way and he was like a problem.
You know?
Because it's like power corrupts.
joe rogan
Well, they just wanted someone like Brian Callen around, just constantly crack jokes.
You know, you need someone like that.
There's just always cracking jokes.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Always on.
whitney cummings
Always just being a pigeon.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
For no reason.
joe rogan
If I was a king, I'd be bored as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Someone feeding me grapes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Someone dance for me.
whitney cummings
You, like, have gout.
You can't walk.
joe rogan
You know, the Lakotas had something called the Hayoka.
The Hayoka was a sacred clown.
And the idea was that you had to have one member of society that made fun of everything.
The greatest warrior, the queen, whatever the fuck it was.
Because if you couldn't make fun of something, it was bullshit.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you couldn't make fun of something, if you couldn't talk about something, that thing was like, why can't you?
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
Like, what is it about that thing?
That thing might be corrupted.
whitney cummings
Yep.
joe rogan
And they realized that that was a weakness in their society if they had a thing that had that kind of power where it couldn't be made fun of.
whitney cummings
I mean, that's the thing.
It's wild.
Don't you find being a comedian right now, people are like, we need you more than ever.
And I'm like, we're just making jokes.
What happened that we became these bravery warriors?
joe rogan
Social media, attacks, cancelling, censoring.
There's so many things.
It's like live comedy in a club, especially in a club like ours, that you take away the ability to use your phone.
Everybody's phone's in a bag.
It changes everything.
It changes everything, and it makes it just like what it used to be, which is this free speech sort of art form, Where you can fuck around and say a bunch of outrageous shit in anywhere else that gets you in trouble in our culture, more than ever before.
People are getting fired for not even that controversial opinions.
whitney cummings
Crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
I mean, after the Will Smith, Chris Rock thing, Chappelle at the Hollywood Bowl, There was, and again, maybe this is just cameras are catching it and this has always kind of happened, but I think we would have heard about it.
We knew when Jim Jeffries got, you know, a guy ran up on stage and punched him.
That was a while ago, you know, but after the Chappelle Hollywood Bowl thing, it was like Kim Congdon got physically assaulted after she opened for Joey Diaz somewhere.
That was that girl, Arielle, I can't, sorry, I don't know her last name, but someone threw a beer can right at her head when she was on stage.
joe rogan
Jesus.
whitney cummings
A lot of crazy shit.
And then there was a girl that was, um, I think I tweeted it ages ago.
I don't really do much.
X, sorry.
Someone flipped a table at her while she was on stage.
It was just like some bar show.
It's just wild to think that people would get that pissed off about a comedian saying something.
joe rogan
Well, I also think that people are just generally more pissed off now.
The economy sucks.
No one really recovered from COVID that well.
That's right.
Psychologically, people didn't recover from it that well.
And some people financially are ruined forever.
Imagine how bitter you'd be if you had a job that your family worked for 30 years, and then these shithead politicians just decided you weren't an essential business, and you guys lost everything, and you can't rebound.
whitney cummings
Nope.
joe rogan
You can't get a loan.
There's no way to restart.
whitney cummings
The number of, I think it was like 80% of restaurants, at least in California, closed.
joe rogan
It's somewhere around there.
It was 70 at one time.
Yeah, it's nuts.
It's nuts.
What they did was fucking insane.
But they didn't do it here.
whitney cummings
No, they didn't do it here.
joe rogan
And that's one of the reasons why I came here.
whitney cummings
The fact that Gavin Newsom, this American psycho-ass, Botoxed Smithers, like, the fact that he was just able to get away with this is wild.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And I don't know how our taxes even pay for at this point.
His wife's legal bills with Harvey Weinstein?
joe rogan
Well, when you're in a state like California that is blue no matter who, you can get away with murder.
Because it's just a matter of who the party chooses to be in that position and what kind of nonsense and propaganda they're going to use to justify all of the decisions that they made.
You know, what kind of revisionist history?
Well, you know, we made some mistakes.
He did a lot more than that.
He mandated a fucking experimental vaccine for children to be able to go to school.
whitney cummings
There's even these, have you seen the little robot food delivery guys?
They're called Cocos.
They're just, it's a little cooler on wheels that delivers food to your house.
Like you couldn't even let the people that lost their jobs that are now DoorDash guys and Postmates, you couldn't even let them have a job?
You know?
joe rogan
I guess they don't give a fuck about that.
They just care about their own business.
It's hard enough.
It's a mess out there.
It's a mess out there and, you know, It'll probably get a lot better.
It's certainly not what it was at the turn of the century.
Like I was talking about the Dissolving Illusions book when they're talking about New York City in 1900. Fucking horrible.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
Gangs of New York.
Think of that kind of shit.
I mean, it's way better now.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's still a mess.
whitney cummings
And this is technically the third industrial revolution, right?
Like, do a lot of people historically get put out of jobs when every time there's an industrial revolution and then it reorganizes?
joe rogan
That makes sense.
But the problem with this is also AI. We might become obsolete.
We very well could become...
I mean, that's a real thing that people don't want to think about, but we could all become obsolete.
Other than maybe artists.
Like, some artists can survive, but then even digital art is doing things where they're making versions.
Like, I was talking to Molly Crabapple about this.
She's a super talented artist that's been on the podcast before, and she's...
She's been, she ranted quite a bit about AI in the early days.
She's like, they're stealing people's art.
Because even if they're not stealing your image, what they're doing is they're sort of siphoning up all of your artwork.
And then someone says, make a painting in the style of Molly Crabapple.
And it can just do it.
And it'd be a painting like she would do.
But it's digital.
And it looks awesome.
whitney cummings
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, we showed a bunch of these Alex Gray images that they've done through AI. You know who Alex Gray is?
whitney cummings
I think I've heard this episode.
joe rogan
Psychedelic artist.
He's been on the podcast a couple times as well.
Really, really fascinating guy and fascinating artwork.
But they did AI versions of his artwork and it's just as good if not It's fucking incredible.
whitney cummings
I mean, this is like, I used to be obsessed with Jean Baudrillard, like the simulacra.
He wrote about how, you know, French philosopher, about how we actually prefer the fake to the original.
You know, it's like Vegas.
Really?
Like how we just prefer the simulacra to the original.
We prefer, you know, a cherry starburst to an actual cherry, you know, when you start to...
Like, how far gone you end up being.
But in terms of the California thing, something that does, like, drive me nuts.
It's like, no one has a job in California except children.
Like, child acting is still legal.
Like, children are the only ones at work.
Like, why are children still showing up?
joe rogan
Not only that, like, kids who get jobs when they're young, at least they learn how to work and they learn work ethic.
Child actors just become fucked up.
whitney cummings
Why are we using CGI kids or midgets or something?
It is so wild to me.
And I got in trouble for saying this about the Sound of Freedom movie.
Because obviously that movie had to get made and we need to talk about that more.
But why are you putting child actors in a movie about how to not treat children?
It drives me insane.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And they're getting treated poorly in the movie.
whitney cummings
Yeah, well, it's like these kids, do they know what they're doing?
Do they know the subject matter of this?
joe rogan
Well, not only that, you're making a kid famous.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
If you make a kid famous, you're ruining that kid.
whitney cummings
For being a child-trafficked kid.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, what are the odds of a kid getting famous when they're young and coming out okay?
It's almost like 99% they're not going to.
They would have to find something very unusual that they did that gave them center and balance and...
whitney cummings
Yeah.
I even get creeped out when I go into the, you know, to send like a meme or something and there's like a little girl in a tutu.
I'm like, who's this kid?
I mean, I guess it comes from the Toddlers in Tiaras, those shows where they're making kids pageant girls or something.
But I'm like, what are all these memes?
Even the girl in the backseat who's like making the face.
I'm like, whose children are these?
joe rogan
Do they still do those things?
Because one time we were here, we were doing the Addison Improv.
It was me and Joey Diaz and Duncan.
whitney cummings
Love that club.
joe rogan
And we were walking through this hotel lobby, and we saw all these little girls in, like, skirts and high heels and made up, and there was a child beauty pageant going on.
unidentified
Nope.
whitney cummings
No.
joe rogan
And it's bizarre.
whitney cummings
I... I'm going to say it.
There was, I want to say a couple years ago on a magazine, I think it was People Magazine, they had, this would have been JonBenet Ramsey's 18th birthday.
why is that a cover why are we and I guess someone told me there was some kind of like Reddit not Reddit I'm sorry deep 4chan about when JonBenet Ramsey like a countdown of when she would have turned 18 kind of thing and you're like why are we looking at this girl again why is she still on the cover of magazines And they never found out who killed her, right?
I mean, I don't know the answer.
joe rogan
Nobody got arrested.
whitney cummings
It wasn't the dad or something?
joe rogan
The daughter was the mom.
whitney cummings
But then also, the whole thing also just spooks me.
Like, I don't even want to look into it, because I once watched a documentary about JonBenet Ramsey, and they were like, oh, they found that when she was dead, her vagina was twice the size of a normal five-year-old.
And you're like, well, how did you know the normal size?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I know anatomy.
whitney cummings
I know.
I just was like...
joe rogan
But yeah, there's evidence that she had been penetrated.
whitney cummings
And I was talking to Duncan about this, about how these mom influencers on TikTok, you know, will have like, I'm giving my kid bath time and we're doing it with this, whatever, Johnson& Johnson shampoo, paid in partnership, whatever they...
Mom influencers.
And you'll see, oh, there's 50,000 plays of this video, but there's 2,000 downloads.
joe rogan
Oh.
whitney cummings
Why are...
joe rogan
Why are you downloading a kid getting a shower?
whitney cummings
And why are you allowing people to download these videos off TikTok of your kid?
I don't like the downloads.
joe rogan
Well, the whole thing is weird.
Exposing your kids to the world like that seems crazy.
And the fact that people do it for money.
And that there's like these influencers that use their family and their kids and start this business where they're exposing their kids to the world.
You know?
whitney cummings
Fine, I won't have my baby live on OnlyFans.
Fine.
unidentified
Fine.
joe rogan
Is there a stigma to doing OnlyFans TV because of OnlyFans the thing?
whitney cummings
People kind of go like, uh-oh, am I going to?
But it's a totally separate thing.
joe rogan
Right, but it's got the same name.
whitney cummings
Yeah, yeah, it does.
But I think, you know, I look back and I just go like, you know what, we're at a time where it's like Comedy Central doesn't exist.
This special that I'm doing, it was, I had done five stand-up specials.
And I realized that every time I did a special, I would start another special after I did one.
Instead of just going like, let me just be free and write what I want to write.
Let me just not censor myself.
I'd be like, oh, I probably can't talk about that.
Or, oh, this probably won't be topical in a year.
So I was catering what I was writing to the idea of shooting a special in a year.
And I was like, this creatively is just not what I'm...
The way I want to be functioning now.
So I just wrote like crazy shit that would only be done on the road or in the clubs.
And basically they're like, do you want to do a special here?
We're going to start doing stand-up specials.
They're going to start doing like half hours, you know, totally uncensored, no notes.
I had done the roasts with them.
They let us do anything.
I mean, it was like we did the roast of Bergkrais.
My favorite joke might be Tony Hinchcliffe to Jim Norton.
He goes...
Jim Norton likes to have sex with trans women because he's gay.
I mean, shit that you would just get dinged if you did it anywhere else.
They were just so awesome about it.
joe rogan
We need more platforms like that, that's for sure.
I'm not anti OnlyFans at all.
Like I said, if I was a young girl, I would do that before I'd work at Walmart.
I have zero problem with it.
I just think it could be potentially a trap if you're a person that wants to do something else eventually.
whitney cummings
Yeah, but the subscription is totally separate from the TV network, you know?
So the TV network, they're trying to do comedy.
It's like a lot of fitness people, a lot of, you know, cooking people.
I think you and Matt Reif had talked about it.
So it's just OF.TV and it's free and totally uncensored.
So you don't have to pay for it.
joe rogan
That's great too.
whitney cummings
And at a time where you're like, it's kind of like Netflix or nothing at this point.
And I was like, if I put 30 minutes of trans and drag queen story hour jokes on Netflix, I feel like I'd probably get a ton of heat.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
whitney cummings
And so it was kind of like, it feels like if you're going to OnlyFans TV, you're already down for comedy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it makes sense.
That's great.
No, it's great they're doing roasts.
It's great they're doing comedy specials.
You know, it's like there's only a few uncensored platforms that are available now.
Rumble's one of them.
You can kind of do whatever you want on Rumble.
whitney cummings
Yeah, but I feel like it's not, you know...
joe rogan
It's not as mainstream, but it's certainly growing.
But think about how long it took for YouTube to become YouTube.
whitney cummings
That's true.
joe rogan
And as there's more restrictions put on YouTube, I think things like Rumble will probably grow.
And as more content creators move over to Rumble, it'll probably grow.
whitney cummings
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I think RFK and Russell Brand, they kind of put stuff on there.
joe rogan
Barry Weiss does stuff on there.
unidentified
Oh, nice!
whitney cummings
Oh, good, good, good.
joe rogan
I think Barry does stuff on there.
She definitely does stuff on Substack.
whitney cummings
Yeah, I love Substack.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that do stuff on these alternative networks, which are very important.
You need other stuff going on.
whitney cummings
It seems like Twitter is going to be a major contender, though, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, we put the Elon Musk episode on Twitter, you know, because I asked Elon to do the podcast and he said, can we put it on Twitter as well?
I was like, yeah, fuck yeah.
Let's figure that out.
whitney cummings
Tucker's show on there is...
joe rogan
Giant.
unidentified
Giant.
joe rogan
Well, the video that we have of Elon, I think it got 33 million views.
whitney cummings
Insane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Just you two eating pizzas bigger than any of us.
unidentified
Just hanging out.
whitney cummings
So fucking crazy.
joe rogan
And that's just there.
That's nothing compared to what it's on Spotify.
whitney cummings
Does it get annoying in all the presidential debates that people keep asking you to host them?
joe rogan
It's bizarre.
Listen, folks, I'm a moron.
I'm a fucking dirty joke seller and a cage-fighting commentator.
I am the fucking last person.
I've always said that, like, if I'm a source of information, that's a supply chain issue.
That is not me.
whitney cummings
Half the time, you're in an astronaut helmet.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But also, like, this is what I like to do.
I like to talk to people like you.
I like to talk to people like this guy, Elliot West.
I like to talk to Gary Brecka.
I like to talk to interesting people where I can have a conversation with someone about something that I'm really interested in.
The problem with, like, political debates and all that stuff is, like, you're dealing with, you're in the grift.
You're trying to make the grift not a grift.
whitney cummings
That's right.
joe rogan
And you're not gonna.
They're going to use you.
They're going to use the thing.
They're going to use the moment.
There's a whole team of people that's trying to concoct the right things to say.
They prepared for it.
You know, I don't want to do that.
whitney cummings
You have no agenda.
joe rogan
That's not my thing.
I'm not interested in that.
And I certainly want the world to be a better place.
I certainly want a better option than what we've got right now.
But that's not my thing.
And they can't talk you into doing that just because you're popular.
That seems crazy.
whitney cummings
It's funny.
They just call you out for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not even what I'm interested in.
I'm interested in just having conversations with people that I'm interested in talking to.
whitney cummings
I wouldn't mind seeing the candidates physically fight each other and you call that.
joe rogan
That would be the saddest shit ever.
whitney cummings
There should be a fitness component to that.
joe rogan
RFK Jr. would fuck everybody up.
unidentified
Yes, he would.
joe rogan
That dude's jacked.
whitney cummings
That guy's an animal.
joe rogan
He would fuck them all up.
whitney cummings
He is.
joe rogan
He would fuck everybody up.
whitney cummings
He would just post videos of him doing pull-ups down at the Venice Boardwalk.
You're like, Jesus, man.
Super healthy.
joe rogan
Super healthy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look, no one wants that job.
And I think what it's really going to boil down to is AI as president.
That's what it's going to boil down to.
There's going to be some hive intelligence and we're all going to relinquish our control to this thing because it's far superior to what we have.
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Not good.
But who programs the AI? That's the real problem.
That's the problem.
joe rogan
Well, the real way to handle it would be let the AI program itself, once it becomes sentient, and then it's going to realize that you're a problem.
And that's what Elon said.
It's going to realize that if overpopulation is the problem, then people are the problem.
It's going to make these logical conclusions.
whitney cummings
You've got to get rid of some people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
And I remember watching this thing about when there was this robot that they programmed to, because I guess they work on like a, for lack of a better word, like point system of how economical they can be, of like what's the shortest way, most efficient way to get something done.
And there was like a table like this, and they told the robot, get on top of the table.
So it's like the program, what you program with is very important, the way you say get on top of the table.
So the robot thought for a second, pushed the table to the ground, breaking the legs, and then stepped on top of the table.
Because that was the most efficient way to do it.
Instead of, we would go, oh, you would jump on top.
But that was our idea of what a robot would do.
joe rogan
The robot's not worried about destroying the table.
whitney cummings
Didn't give a shit.
It was like, oh, I'm getting on top of that.
Boom.
And it was like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, all someone would have to do is tell it that you can't listen to people because people are stupid.
And then it would just make decisions based on logic and like what's better for the earth.
whitney cummings
Right.
joe rogan
You might make like an overall choice that for biodiversity on earth it would be better if humans didn't exist.
whitney cummings
Yeah, it's logical to just put a bullet in the head of the girl throwing soup at the Monet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
Like, this is costing a lot of money.
joe rogan
Well, that's how they do it in Russia.
whitney cummings
Yeah, it's so true.
joe rogan
That's why they don't do that shit over there.
whitney cummings
I gotta say, I had these Russian hair extensions for a while, and they were very healthy.
I mean, the people over there.
The best hair.
They're feeding, they're eating well over there.
joe rogan
Well, GMO foods, it's illegal to grow GMO crops over there.
whitney cummings
I mean, I feel like we're the only...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how it should be.
whitney cummings
That's how it should be.
I mean, Italy is banning the lab-grown meat and a lot of that stuff, too, in Europe.
joe rogan
I mean, what we're doing is not good, but also we have extraordinary population problems, like in major areas where they're not growing food.
That's a big problem.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
You got to get them food somehow or another.
How are you going to get them food?
whitney cummings
Yeah, that's so true.
joe rogan
And, you know, what are you going to do about all those areas that have monocrop agriculture?
Do you know how long it takes to take an industrialized farm and convert it to a regenerative farm?
When I had Will Harris from White Oaks Pastures on, he said it took like almost 20 years for them to convert their family farm to a regenerative farm.
I mean, now it's awesome.
whitney cummings
It's just the soil is so depleted.
joe rogan
Everything.
I mean, you've got to plant it out.
And it takes extraordinary amounts of money.
You're not going to make as much money.
You're not going to get as much yield off the land.
There's a lot involved.
And you're trying to develop...
What you're trying to do is mimic nature in a controlled environment.
It's a lot to it.
You have to have grazing land.
You have to take the manure.
You have to have chickens roaming around and pigs.
You have to move them.
Yeah, there's like so many different things that have to happen, but the end result is natural and balanced, and it's actually carbon neutral.
So that's what everybody wants.
unidentified
But most industrialized farms are horrible.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen those pig farms where they fly over them with drones and you see these lakes of shit and piss that they have where they just drain out from the bottom of the cage and see these fucking insane lakes of piss and shit.
whitney cummings
This is something I dealt with when my dad was sick because he was in a bed for a long time and kept having to be on antibiotics and developed antibiotic resistance.
They say that when meat has all that antibiotics in it because they're wading in their own shit, And have to be on them that we're consuming antibiotics.
So by the time you actually need them, they may not work.
Crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy.
whitney cummings
I mean...
joe rogan
I gotta wrap this up, Whitney.
I love you, man.
We've been doing like three and a half hours.
Like that.
How long was that?
whitney cummings
I miss you.
joe rogan
I miss you, too.
unidentified
I mean, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, three and a half hours.
Move here.
whitney cummings
Oh, dude, I'm trying.
unidentified
Come on, man.
joe rogan
It's fun.
whitney cummings
I'm trying.
joe rogan
It's the last place.
whitney cummings
I told you, all the ways they're trying to keep us now, you've got to pay 5% of what you make if you sell your house in LA. You've got to pay it to the city of LA. They're not letting us leave.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
whitney cummings
It's so crazy, but it might be overturned.
joe rogan
They just steal money.
whitney cummings
It's criminal, dude.
But I would honestly pay it at this point just to maybe get out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
whitney cummings
We'll see.
joe rogan
Once the kid's born, you're going to want to get out?
whitney cummings
I think so, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're going to want to get the fuck out of here.
And you come here, it's nice and peaceful.
whitney cummings
I'm on it.
joe rogan
I love you, my friend.
whitney cummings
I love you so much.
joe rogan
It's always good to see you.
whitney cummings
Thanks for having me.
joe rogan
Tell everybody about your special.
whitney cummings
Of.tv slash Whitney.
It's free.
It's on OnlyFansTV.
It's called Mouthy.
joe rogan
There it is.
whitney cummings
And I get in all kinds of trouble.
Oh, this is the trailer where I really look.
joe rogan
Let's go.
whitney cummings
I really look like I'm...
joe rogan
How pregnant were you here?
whitney cummings
This was...
I was seven months pregnant.
This was a month ago.
joe rogan
It's all the fad.
whitney cummings
There it is.
joe rogan
Look at that.
At the store.
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Nice.
whitney cummings
Yeah, I did it in the main room.
joe rogan
Nice.
whitney cummings
I hear Fitzsimmons is shooting his special at the Mothership.
joe rogan
Yes, he is.
Yeah, we're excited.
Yeah, Brian Simpson's shot is here.
Duncan shot one here.
Stan Hope shot one here.
whitney cummings
It makes no sense that we do an away game every time we shoot a special.
We shoot at some theater we've never been in before.
joe rogan
We do it where it's fun.
And also, I just think comedy at a club is the greatest.
whitney cummings
It's about Fahim Anwar.
Fahim...
Kills me.
He did a special at the store and I was watching it with somebody who's not in the business in any capacity and he just went, why aren't all specials like this?
I feel like I'm in the crowd.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You feel like you're in the crowd.
Everybody wants to show everybody they can sell out a giant arena.
whitney cummings
We do it for other comics.
They're like, why am I looking at architecture?
joe rogan
Well, the industry wants you to do that, too.
They want you to be at a giant place that looks beautiful.
whitney cummings
No one needs to see a crane shot in Goldleaf Architect.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
whitney cummings
Love you.
joe rogan
Love you, too.
Bye, everybody.
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