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Joe Rogan Experience #2046 - Brian Redban
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joe rogan
Oh, hey.
unidentified
Hi.
What's going on?
Hi.
We are at the verge of World War III. Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, here's what's crazy, man.
I've been freaking out over the last, like, few weeks, like, at nighttime.
Like, at nighttime, I'll be alone, and I just start thinking about the future of the world, and I start, like, legit freaking out.
Like, what would happen if we were, like, legit Armageddon, Mad Max, nuclear war?
Like, how far are we away from that?
And it just, it could just give me anxiety before I go to sleep.
I'd just be laying there going, fuck, like...
How does this all resolve?
And then this fucking Israel thing pops off and now I'm like legit freaked out.
brian redban
I've been definitely buying a lot of stuff lately for my house, like end of the world shit.
I'm getting Tesla solar right now and battery pack so I can live off the grid.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good move.
If you can get your house solar, that's a big move.
At a certain point in time, what's the electricity even getting you other than keeping the lights on?
What I'm scared of is like, All communications are gone.
Like, how hard would it be to shut down our power grid?
How hard would it be to blow a few satellites up and no one knows shit?
brian redban
Yeah, that's why, like, that Starlink, you know, the satellites thing, I'm thinking about getting that, even though I have great internet, but, you know, just because, oh, what if?
Yeah, it's scary.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was in the mountains in Utah and they had Starlink and it was great.
It works everywhere.
But people keep thinking it's UFOs.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like people keep filming it flying.
What is that?
brian redban
Yeah, the dots in the air.
joe rogan
Dude, everybody's looking for UFOs now, like more than ever.
brian redban
Yeah.
Ring cameras are putting out a million dollar bounty.
If you catch something on your ring cameras right now, they will pay you a million dollars.
joe rogan
That's good because they know they don't have to pay that.
brian redban
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
It's like sweet.
Very smart.
Did you see that one in Vegas that they captured on camera?
Like, the dashboard cam of a police car caught this thing streaking through the sky, and then this family said that it landed in their backyard, and that these tall creatures got out of it, and they saw the tall creatures.
But then when George Knapp was going to interview them, like, I think it was on two separate occasions, they just fucking wouldn't answer the door.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I think also...
I mean, they might have made the whole story up, right?
That's most likely.
But also, imagine how freaked out you'd be if all of a sudden the whole world wanted to talk to you because of a UFO in your backyard.
And I don't know if they're legal.
I believe they spoke Spanish.
See if you can find that story.
Because at the beginning, I was like, whoa.
And then I was like, what?
It's one of those things that you want it to be true.
So you start going, whoa, what is going on with this story?
unidentified
And then the more you read into it, the more you're like, hmm.
brian redban
Yeah.
That's all those stories, right?
joe rogan
Every one of them.
brian redban
Yeah.
It's never like, oh, we filmed it on the new iPhone.
Look how crisp it is.
joe rogan
The only ones that I ever really make me pause are the ones from the military guys.
And the ones from the military guys, the more I think about it, the more I think that is some absolute top secret shit that the United States government has developed.
I think they have some super high tech drone technology that...
Operates on some very sophisticated propulsion system that we're not aware of.
brian redban
Or different countries, you know.
joe rogan
I think it's America.
brian redban
You think it is?
joe rogan
The reason why I think it's America is because these things always happen where military bases are.
Like one of them happened off the coast of the Nimitz in San Diego.
You know, San Diego's where all the SEALs are.
That's where a bunch of military base...
There's like a bunch of exercises that go on in the sea outside of San Diego.
So that makes sense.
And they were doing fighter jet...
Testing and training out there.
That's how they saw this thing.
So that kind of makes sense to me and then the other ones are in the East Coast again in the same kind of airspace where these guys practice all the time and I had this one guy on Ryan Graves and he said that when they upgraded their the equipment on their jets in 2014 I believe that's when they started seeing all these things.
That's when they're like what the fuck is going on now?
Is that an accident?
Like, if they wanted to find out, you know, like whether or not these things were, you could detect them, you know, whether or not we could employ them or deploy them rather without anybody knowing, wouldn't you test them with your own guys?
Like, I would.
You know, say, hey, here's the rules.
Don't shoot at those things.
If you see them, we don't know what the fuck they are.
But they probably do know what the fuck they are.
But also real aliens.
I leave everything on the table.
I think if you had a pie, the UFO pie, right?
Most of its bullshit like a good 70 65 percent is bullshit I Got a real alien problem.
I got a UFO on the desk.
We had a fucking alien head on the wall.
Yeah But I'm also realist in at least in some ways and I look at it I go okay Most of it's just bullshit and then misunderstandings.
So what's misunderstandings?
How many of them are shooting stars, which happen all the time?
I saw one the other day.
It was dope.
Just the light, the sky just shot up and then it dies off.
I was like, ooh, it's pretty.
How many of them are just fighter jets, shit like that?
Have you ever seen like a stealth bomber?
Have you ever seen one of those?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
In the sky?
brian redban
Not in the sky.
I mean, at an air museum.
joe rogan
We were filming Fear Factor in 2001, and it was right after 9-11.
So we were out in...
No, no.
What's the fucking city we were at?
We would go there all the time.
Palmdale.
So Palmdale's like way out there.
Law crack.
It was a sketchy area.
But also these big open roads that we could close down.
And so we would do these stunts with like giant semi-trucks barreling down the road.
And these people had to climb on the outside of the truck.
Shit like that.
And so we were out there and we saw this thing just flying through the air like a fucking something out of Star Wars.
Everybody stopped.
We were like, whoa!
It's a stealth bomber just flying through the sky.
They look so sick.
They look like they're not of this world.
brian redban
You're talking about the Blackbird, right?
Is that what it's called, Blackbird?
joe rogan
I think there's more than one of them, right?
brian redban
The sexy one that's like all black and it looks like it has muscles and shit.
joe rogan
It was sexy.
It was very sexy.
unidentified
It was very black.
joe rogan
It was very spaceship looking.
See if you get a video of that thing.
Is there more than one?
jamie vernon
Well, there's a couple different stealthers.
The B2 stealth, which is probably the big one you're talking about, on the screen.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's exactly what it looked like.
brian redban
That's the new one.
joe rogan
That's exactly what it looked like.
When I saw that thing, I was like, oh my god.
jamie vernon
There's a couple other ones.
joe rogan
If you didn't know, come on, man.
And you saw that thing flying through the sky.
Give me one of those images, like that image right there to the right of your cursor right there.
Yeah, click on that.
If you just saw that, you'd be like, oh my god, we're getting invaded for sure.
brian redban
Especially at night.
unidentified
Can you imagine?
brian redban
Is there a video of that at night?
unidentified
I bet that looks like a UFO. I bet you can't see it at night.
joe rogan
Like, you know, the whole idea is that it evades radar.
How does that even work?
brian redban
Oh, here's one.
joe rogan
Oh, this is...
jamie vernon
That's from the ground.
It looks like a plane.
joe rogan
It does look a little bit like a plane.
But those three lights, don't people always say they see three lights in the sky?
How many of them are this thing?
Probably a shit ton.
You know?
I mean, everybody always talks about a triangle-shaped craft, right?
Well, there it is.
Fucking there it is.
The ones that they spotted over Phoenix.
Remember they had the Phoenix lights?
brian redban
And they always say, oh, it was going slow.
And then out of nowhere, it just jet out of nowhere, super fast.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's another one.
brian redban
Ooh, that's a nice...
joe rogan
Yeah.
But you think about it, if it has three lights under it, and it's flying through the air, and it's that high, all it'd have to do is turn those three lights off.
And you'd be like, oh my god, it disappeared.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
You wouldn't even, you'd have no idea what's going on.
So now on the ground like that, that looks like a jet.
Like a super dope jet.
What's the other one?
jamie vernon
I think we have a drone.
I think I was looking into one that's like not officially, I think it's like the SR-72 hasn't been officially announced.
joe rogan
What's that one on the far left?
The white one?
Yeah, that looks like a spaceship.
Look at that thing.
brian redban
Wow, that looks cool.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, that looks cool.
I mean, if you were, you know, like when I was in high school in the 1980s, he told me, like, what are jets going to look like in 2003?
brian redban
I'm like, oh, like that.
joe rogan
Or 2023. I'd be like, that.
That kind of shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's an unmanned aircraft.
That's 10 years ago.
joe rogan
Whoa.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, so 10 years ago.
So this thing off the coast, the Nimitz, this is 2004. So that's almost 20 years ago.
That's the only thing that gives me pause.
I was like, did they really have that kind of technology 20 years ago?
Where something could jet off into the sky and go from 50,000 feet above sea level to zero in a second?
Did they have that back then?
Maybe.
You know, maybe they had that, but just they didn't have any way to use it, and so they just hold on to it?
I mean, like, what would you use that for?
Like if they did have it, here's the thing, if they had something like that, like the Tic Tac, have you seen the Tic Tac one?
That's the videos that gives, that's the one that's the most legit because it's two separate jets, multiple eyeballs on this thing, video evidence of this thing, radar data.
jamie vernon
Check this thing out.
This is a Chinese drone, and it says it moves with bursts of compressed air to maneuver.
joe rogan
This testbed drone can influence its upcoming 6th generation fighter design.
A new drone features active flow technology, which uses bursts of high pressure air from actuators embedded in the aircraft's body for maneuvering instead of traditional moving control surfaces such as, I don't know how to say that, Ailerons?
Rudders and elevators.
Wow.
So it uses compressed air to flutter and maneuver.
But what does that thing do if winds are fucked up?
Can it push against the winds?
Like how's that air work?
brian redban
Probably falls apart.
It's made in China.
joe rogan
Bro, they made your phone.
They make great stuff, too.
brian redban
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
But that's the funny thing, right?
We think made in China's cheap.
Bitch, made in China's everything.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
We can't make a single phone over here.
That is the dumbest thing of all time.
brian redban
Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
They tried, right?
Not hard.
If China could do it.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know, we've talked about this before, but if they made a phone in America and you didn't have to feel terrible about people Working in the cobalt mines to get the cobalt out of the ground.
And if you didn't have to feel terrible about people working 16 hours a day, sleeping in cots, jumping off the roof, manufacturing it, you'd be happy to pay a little more.
Okay, unlike traditional AFC, which uses high-pressure air to maneuver an aircraft, plasma AFC works by using a thin membrane in front of a flying wing aircraft, which ionizes air molecules.
The ionized air molecules generate a plasma shower that accelerates the airflow, which can keep the craft from stalling if it goes down a particular airspeed.
For example, China's plasma AFC is claimed to prevent stalls even if the aircraft's speed drops to unusually low 108 kilometers per hour.
Isn't that funny?
That's low.
But that's like, what is that?
108 is like 65 something, like 70. Like what's a 200 miles an hour, or 200 kilometers is like 60 miles an hour, right?
Because I know that from cars.
You know, like you see, like in...
We were supposed to adopt the metric system when I was in fucking grammar school, bro.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
We were supposed to get on board with soccer, and we were supposed to get on board with the metric system.
brian redban
And Celsius, right?
joe rogan
Yep, yep.
That's part of it.
Ours is so goofy.
brian redban
So stupid.
joe rogan
Ours is second only to England.
England still uses stone for people.
unidentified
He weighs 16 stone!
brian redban
What's that even?
joe rogan
I think it's 13 pounds?
Is that what a stone is?
jamie vernon
Something like that.
I think 13 point something.
joe rogan
We googled it once, like, what the root of that was.
Like, they had just made a measurement in the fucking...
14. 14 pounds?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's, like, from back in the, you know, probably the barbarian days.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
This stone will be how we measure food and gold.
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You know, and however many of them, you know...
We have three stone.
unidentified
It's just, like, it's so medieval.
Stone.
Yeah.
brian redban
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
But it's weird that we're not all on board with one measurement and we fucked it up.
Like, we easily could have gave up on inches.
What are we, like, fucking...
Are we really committed to inches?
What?
Are we really committed to yards?
Are yards important to you?
Why isn't it meters?
The whole world's meters.
brian redban
At least we're all going to USBC now, right?
That's the one thing, that and straws.
joe rogan
But they had to get threatened by Europe to go to USBC. Apple loves their walled garden.
Ooh, they're so good at it.
They're the best at it.
They really are.
That company is amazing what it's done.
Because it's taking something that everyone has, a cell phone, and making it so if you have theirs, it's significantly better.
You can send each other videos.
You can do the FaceTime.
It's native to the phone.
You don't have to download anything.
It works on everybody's phone now.
It even works on an Android phone.
You can AirDrop.
And then if you get a new phone, all of your shit just transfers over instantly.
And if you, like, are a comic and you have your notes on your phone, like, oh, it's so sweet.
You're just like, oh my god, I lost my phone, I lost all my notes.
No, I didn't.
Log on, bang, new phone, bang, there's your notes.
You know, they're just so good.
And I know Android has a lot of those features.
I know it does.
brian redban
Usually before.
joe rogan
Don't get mad.
Yeah, they're better than ever at innovation.
They're the first to make foldables.
They have legit foldables.
You were showing me yours the other day.
brian redban
Yeah, the Pixel.
joe rogan
Dude, that is sweet.
That is fucking sweet.
brian redban
Apple needs to jump on that.
You know they will.
In like two years, they'll have a foldable, I bet.
joe rogan
They'll be way behind the curve.
brian redban
Yeah, but they won't have the crease, I bet.
That's the big thing.
joe rogan
I gotta tell you, it bummed me out when I found out that Samsung was faking those moon pictures.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It really bummed me out.
brian redban
Yeah, because you actually told me about it, or you sent me one, and you were like, oh, and that made me buy the Galaxy S21 or whatever it was at the time.
I was like, I have to get this.
And it's still, you know, yeah, it's still fine, I guess.
joe rogan
The camera's incredible.
The camera's amazing.
It's a very, very, very good camera, but so is the iPhone camera.
The only thing that the Samsung camera legitimately does do is it zooms in way better.
They can zoom in from, like, it's crazy zoom.
I know it's electronic.
It's, like, optical up to a certain extent.
brian redban
Five, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then it goes...
What does Apple's do?
brian redban
Apple's is five, and it zooms in.
But the megapixels are bigger on the Galaxy S23 and stuff like that, Ultras.
joe rogan
Right.
But, I mean, how...
Where are you looking at your phone, your pictures for the most part?
You're looking at them on your phone.
brian redban
On your phone, right.
joe rogan
So how much of a difference does that make?
brian redban
It's not that big of a difference.
It's the quality of the lens and stuff.
Like the new iPhone, it's like 48 megapixels, but their new zoom is this new zoom lens.
It's five optical now.
But so many of the tests show the quality of the Galaxy S23 Ultra.
It's almost exactly the same.
It's twice the megapixels.
Megapixels doesn't really matter anymore.
It's actually the detail up to a certain point of megapixels.
joe rogan
But doesn't megapixels matter, say, if you want...
Sony has one of the most interesting phones.
Because Sony is out there wilding.
And what Sony's done is they said, look, no one's buying this.
But we're just gonna make a phone with the craziest fucking camera we can put on it with the most professional features.
Like, a guy like you or Jamie.
Jamie really knows how to work a camera.
You know, like, and a lot of people that are, like, legit photographers, they love that Sony phone because you can, you go into it, it's like a computer.
There's so many features, so many options.
What is it called?
brian redban
Oh, the new one.
It has, like, the same kind of setup as, like, their, like, professional camera lens, like the menus and stuff, like the...
joe rogan
Yeah, MKBHD. He went over it.
And he was just talking about, like, who's this phone for?
Because the camera's incredible.
It does so many things.
It's for someone who really understands settings, and you really want to go.
And you can make movies with that, man.
Like, legit movies with that phone.
brian redban
What's funny, though, is that's just software for the most part.
And you could actually download programs on your iPhone and do exactly the same stuff.
unidentified
Oh, really?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's not the quality of the cameras?
brian redban
I mean, the lens is great and stuff, but I would really like to see it versus the new iPhone, and I bet the iPhone's probably better.
joe rogan
Interesting.
So if you used a similar program...
brian redban
Yeah.
It's like a camera raw.
I forget the name of the...
joe rogan
Do you use one of those, Jamie?
Do you ever use one of them cameras?
jamie vernon
Nah, if I'm taking a photo like that, I wouldn't use my iPhone.
The iPhone's just like, when I'm at the concert, I just try to take the best thing I can real quick.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
The correct answer for that is the best camera is always the one you have on you, not the one you can go buy or whatever.
joe rogan
What is the most useless film footage of all time that people never watch?
jamie vernon
Fireworks.
joe rogan
Thank you.
unidentified
That's what I was going to say.
Unless it's just a journaling thing, but unless it's like a self-journal.
jamie vernon
I was here on Fourth of July, these people were with me, that was a song playing, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, that's kind of cool.
jamie vernon
Other than that, you're never going to watch them.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
You can buy legit fireworks in Texas.
And my poor boy Marshall.
Marshall, who's the sweetest.
He is so scared of lightning and so scared of...
Thunder.
Fireworks, rather.
He won't sit still.
We try to just watch TV with him, and he's just jumping up on the couch with you, jumping on the ground.
Like, dude, settle.
It's okay, buddy.
brian redban
Panting.
joe rogan
I thought that if he sat next to me and I pet him, he would be cool, but nope.
He was like, I gotta get out of here!
We're getting bombed!
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Firework.
And he wasn't like that before.
I don't know what set it off.
Moving to Texas set it off.
Well, I think it's because people are doing them on my block.
brian redban
Yeah.
And we don't have lightning, really, in LA. Right.
joe rogan
Bro, we get some lightning out here.
brian redban
It's different, right?
It's not regular lightning.
It's kind of like war lightning or something.
It's scary.
joe rogan
It's real.
It's real.
It's the shit that the people had to face in the covered wagons when they're trying to make their way across here.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Terrifying.
A lightning hit right across from my house.
It was like I saw the bolt through the sky, the sky lit up, and instantly you heard BOOM! And I was like, whoa, it's right there.
brian redban
I sent you the photo down the street from my house, and the whole house blew up from this thing of lightning.
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
You know who almost got hit?
Forrest Galante.
jamie vernon
I figured you knew.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw the video.
He was in a river and he all- I'm like, a foot away from him?
Two feet away from him?
I mean, he would've been dead.
And this fucking dude goes, do you know who he is?
He's a wildlife biologist.
Look at that.
Right behind him.
Show that again.
brian redban
Is there sound to this?
joe rogan
So he's out there in the water.
Nothing?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
unidentified
Can you get no sound?
joe rogan
I'm waiting.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
You can edit it.
There it is.
Boom.
brian redban
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
So where did it hit?
jamie vernon
I think behind him?
He made a longer video about it, and this says...
joe rogan
It says I got hit by lightning.
jamie vernon
He says he felt it.
joe rogan
Well, of course he felt it.
It's probably right next to him.
brian redban
It's in the water.
Oh yeah, that's right.
It's in the water.
joe rogan
Does the water conduct the electricity?
I mean, there has to be a certain...
brian redban
Yeah, it has to dilute it a little.
jamie vernon
I remember growing up, they're like, don't take a shower when it's...
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Or get on the phone for whatever reason, but I guess it could go through the power line.
joe rogan
Well, obviously, when people kill people, they throw a toaster in the bathtub, right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
That was the thing that people would do.
Or kill themselves.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What a fucked up way to die.
brian redban
Can you imagine?
joe rogan
Throw a toaster in a bathtub?
But I wonder, like, it's got to be, at a certain point, it doesn't work anymore, right?
Otherwise, it would kill everything in the river.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'd kill the whole ocean.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
So it has to be like a distance where it doesn't do that anymore.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I don't have sound.
joe rogan
You don't have sound?
jamie vernon
The computer, I don't have sound on it for some reason.
joe rogan
Oh, you want to reboot?
jamie vernon
Let me just figure it out for one second.
joe rogan
Okay.
If you have to reboot, just let us know.
Yeah, that's a fucked up way to go.
My friend Remy got hit by lightning when he was a kid.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
It fucked him up, he said.
Yeah, I think it fucked up his hearing for a long time.
And, you know, he woke up outside and realized what had happened.
brian redban
It's always weird when people get hit by lightning multiple times.
It's like, how is that possible?
joe rogan
I wonder what that is.
Do you think some people are just like, there's something about them?
Or God's like, get the fuck out of here?
brian redban
Or they're just idiots.
They're always like out in rainstorms holding like umbrellas.
joe rogan
But there was one dude, I think he had a record.
He got electrocuted by, he got hit by lightning like six or seven times.
Like something bonkers.
brian redban
Yeah.
Within like a week, there's some people that get hit.
joe rogan
You must be thinking God's trying to get rid of you.
brian redban
Yeah.
Probably.
joe rogan
That's a crazy way to die.
A bolt of electricity comes out of the heavens.
Like back in the day, imagine being like back in the Roman days and not knowing what the fuck's going on.
And you see someone get hit by lightning.
Because they had swords and shit.
I hereby take this land.
brian redban
Bitch ain't taking shit.
And that's how He-Man became.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They probably thought back then that the gods were angry at that person.
I mean, how many guys like were holding up a sword and they got hit by lightning?
brian redban
Right.
I'm sure a lot.
joe rogan
Probably like thousands.
brian redban
They're always on mountains, you know?
What a way to go.
joe rogan
No wonder why they had like God of Thunder, you know?
They thought like the gods made decisions to take someone out.
What a fucked up God that would be.
If that really was what was going on, God was like, use this fucking guy!
It just blows you up.
brian redban
Do you see that kid that got electrocuted?
There were three kids sitting on a train track and one of them leans back and he hit the third rail.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian redban
And then his girlfriend looked over and he sees him going like this and grabs him and she gets electrocuted.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Did they all die?
brian redban
Last I heard they both went to the hospital so I don't know.
But the video is disturbing because the kid just kind of lays back.
joe rogan
I don't even want to see that, man.
brian redban
It's a haunting video, for sure.
joe rogan
You can't unsee that.
brian redban
Any of those electricity videos, like the people with the power line guys, those videos?
jamie vernon
It happened to a kid at a college campus recently in Ohio, I think.
He climbed a power pole.
brian redban
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more.
jamie vernon
I don't think he died, though.
joe rogan
There was one where I was watching a guy, it was some other country, they're speaking different languages, climbing up, trying to fix something on a power line, and then he got zapped, and he just fell.
Just fell backwards like 50 feet, and you're watching him fall.
Fucked up way to go.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Working on power, like electricians, boy, you better know what the fuck you're doing.
That's why building regulations are so goddamn important when people are like, you know, we need less regulation.
No, you don't.
No, you need building regulation, dude.
Have you ever had a problem where builders built something in your house squirrely?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's real.
There's some squirrely dudes out there.
They don't pay attention to the regs.
They don't look at how they're making things and whether or not they're doing it correctly or doing it in a dangerous way.
People are goofy.
Jesus.
There we go.
Now we got sound.
brian redban
You can start playing your Mariah Carey song.
joe rogan
Jimmy's playlist gets revealed.
unidentified
It's all Taylor Swift.
joe rogan
Deftones song on purpose.
unidentified
Deftones.
joe rogan
I forgot about Deftones.
brian redban
Oh yeah.
Did you go to ACL this weekend?
joe rogan
No, no I didn't.
brian redban
It's too cuckoo.
joe rogan
Too cuckoo for me.
But I've been seeing a lot of concerts lately.
Man, Austin is such a great fucking place in terms of how many artists roll through here.
I used to think, like, God, if you lived there, fucking you'd have to go somewhere to see everything.
No, everything comes here.
Everything comes here.
Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, every fucking band, Roger Waters.
We've seen so many concerts here.
It's been incredible.
It's been incredible.
Zac Bryan.
So many concerts.
So much going on here.
Jelly Roll was here the other day.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
Jelly Roll's a cool guy.
joe rogan
He's the best.
brian redban
What a nice guy, huh?
joe rogan
I love him.
He's so sweet to everybody.
He's just all hugs and love.
The moment I met him, you know, they told me that Jelly Roll was coming up to see Ron White, and I happened to be at the club.
I wasn't even working that night.
I was being like a manager.
It was like when the club was just sort of making sure everything was cool.
And I went to say hi to Ron, and they said, Jelly Roll's here.
And I'm like, oh man, I'm gonna go meet him.
And when you ever meet someone famous, you're like, you know, I hope he's cool.
He's like, my man!
He gives me this big hug.
I'm like, oh, you're just how I thought you would be.
brian redban
That's how I was with Post Malone.
I had actually said out loud to my girlfriend months before I met him, I was like, that's one of the top five guys I want to meet in person, just hang with.
Cut to months later, me and him are at Mitzi's, and we're having a dick-off drawing the best dicks.
He was great at it.
He beat me.
joe rogan
He's so cool.
He's exactly how you would hope he is.
He's so cool.
He's such a kind person.
He's so nice, and he's so talented, and he's so fun.
And when I told him we did the podcast, I'm like, you want to go see Kill Tony?
And he's like, yeah.
I go, you want to go on stage?
Let's do this.
He's like, how do I do this?
I go, fuck.
unidentified
Come on, man.
joe rogan
Let's go.
Let's fucking do it.
He's like, all right, let's fucking do it.
And he just hops up there for Kill Tony.
He had no idea what Kill Tony was.
brian redban
And he stayed.
unidentified
And he was great.
brian redban
I thought he was going to be in and out like 10 minutes.
unidentified
He stayed the whole time.
brian redban
He was great.
He was amazing.
joe rogan
And he was supportive of people.
And that dude who sang opera.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How good was that guy?
That was incredible.
Like, bro, bail on the jokes or work that into your act somehow.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, a guy like that with great jo- and he did have some great jokes.
brian redban
Oh yeah, he's funny.
joe rogan
That fucking opening one minute that he had was solid.
That's when they put him up against Hans.
They were gonna have like a joke off.
And apparently Hans smoked him.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, I hope that guy didn't just burn out his best material in that one minute.
Probably did.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it was a solid bit.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't want to give it away, but it's a solid premise.
Good bit.
And I was thinking, like, if that guy hit punchlines and then sang...
Oh my god!
You know, like, work it into the punchlines?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you know, like saying, I used to be an opera singer, and sometimes people are so fucking stupid, I just want to sing at them.
You know what I mean?
Like, he could have a thing where, because his voice is insane.
Like, when he did that, like, you know when someone has a hidden skill like that, you're like, what?
You can play guitar?
And you see them fucking...
Whoa!
I never thought that.
Like, that guy, like, who expected that to come out of that guy?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You know, you expect a comic.
He's a comic.
He's probably fucked off most of his life.
Probably had a problem with drugs.
Maybe he's got a few DUIs.
Maybe he was in trouble with the law.
You know, maybe he sold drugs when he was younger or something.
There's always, like, something kooky with comics.
But you see someone who's a...
No, I'm a trained opera singer.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But again, that would be how you would rebel.
If you're singing the classics all the time, like, oh my god, I want to just talk about farts.
brian redban
You know?
joe rogan
You get to this point where you're just like, I mean, if you live rigidly, That was always a thing in high school.
When I was in high school, there was girls that went to this all-girl Catholic school high school.
And those are the wildest girls.
Everybody knew it.
It was like an open discussion.
Like, dude, these Catholic girls are wild.
Because they were just kept from boys and told, like, stay away from boys.
And they were never around boys during the day.
Because all day it was just girls, girls, girls.
And all they did was talk about boys.
And when those girls would go to parties and meet guys, they were aggressive.
They wanted to hook up with guys.
It was different.
And other girls were like, these fucking Catholic school girl sluts.
Isn't it crazy?
That's one of those religions where they put the fucking brakes on you.
They tell you, you're a sinner.
You can go to hell for this.
Don't fuck around.
I found a song from 1970 that's a Jesus song, a pro-Jesus song, and it fucking jams, dude.
It's pretty interesting.
I'm gonna send this to you, Jamie.
Pro-Jesus song.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll tell you the guy as soon as I pull it up.
Hold on a second.
My playlist is so long.
I keep saying I'm going to publish this on Spotify, and I swear to God I will.
brian redban
Publish your playlist?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Green Room playlist.
All right, let me share this with Jeremy.
brian redban
By the way, listen to Post Malone's cover of Nirvana.
He just played a bunch of Nirvana songs during COVID. That's how I found out about Post.
Some of the best Nirvana covers I've ever heard in my life.
He just kills it.
joe rogan
He covers Sturgill Simpson too, man.
He's doing at Stagecoach, which is the thing that is connected to Coachella, the country music one.
He's going to do a whole country set there.
unidentified
No shit.
Yeah.
brian redban
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, he's so talented.
He's so talented.
Like, when we went to see him live, we went to Houston to see his concert.
brian redban
Oh, you did?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
Fucking amazing.
joe rogan
The energy that guy has.
It's like, he just fucking goes for it.
And the show is so good.
The show's so solid.
So exciting.
It just really makes you want to do better.
You know, you see someone just crush it like that, you're like, God, I'm gonna fucking do better.
Everything I do, I want to do better.
You get that song?
Yeah, listen to this shit.
This is from, I think it's from 1970.
Larry Norman.
unidentified
Larry Norman.
Sipping whiskey from a paper cup.
You drown your sorrows till you can't stand up.
Take a look at what you've done to yourself.
Why don't you put the bottle back on the shelf?
Yellow finger from your cigarettes.
Your hands are shaking while your body sweats.
Why don't you come to Jesus?
He's got the answer.
joe rogan
Listen to this, though.
Listen to this.
It's good, man.
The lyrics are good.
And it's also, you have to look at it, you're in a time capsule.
unidentified
It was 1970. Good song,
joe rogan
right?
brian redban
Yeah.
Now, is all this stuff religious?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jamie vernon
According to Wikipedia, he's one of the pioneers of Christian rock music.
joe rogan
But this is good, dude.
brian redban
This is good.
joe rogan
Say you want to be a superstar, but you never hung around enough to find out who you really are.
unidentified
What do I mean?
brian redban
Yellow fingers from the cigarettes.
I like that one.
joe rogan
Shooting junk until you're half insane.
It's good.
Gonnery on Valentine's Day.
It's a good fucking song.
And again, 1970.
unidentified
Back to when you were a child.
Your soul was free.
Your heart ran wild.
Each day was different and life was a thrill.
You knew tomorrow would be better still.
Things will change.
You're much older now.
If you're unhappy and you don't know how.
Why don't you look into Jesus?
He got the answers.
Why don't you look into Jesus?
He got the answers.
joe rogan
See, here's the thing.
I've heard of churches that are like rock and roll churches.
There was this gal that I knew that worked for Fear Factor, and she was into this rock and roll church.
I think at one point in time she was...
I don't know what, she was of a different religious persuasion and then she got into this like heavy-duty Christian church that was in town where the guy was like a cool guy, young guy.
I go, is he fucking everybody?
And she's like, no!
I'm like, I know how those go.
Like, he's the cool guy?
He's the cool guy who likes rock and roll?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And he also likes Jesus.
Maybe.
Like, we're always hoping for the guy that that's really all he wants to do.
That's really it.
He's just really about Jesus and love and he's not trying to fuck everybody.
But that guy has not shown up yet.
Like, almost all those guys, you know?
Like, the guy was showing his dick root when he's hanging out with Justin Bieber, remember?
We called that guy out a long time ago.
We called that guy out a long time ago.
Like, he's too hot.
He's too hot.
Like, he's too hot and he's too charismatic.
Like, why he's so hot?
Why he's so charismatic?
Maybe you like...
You know?
Maybe.
Maybe you're trying to develop a cult where, like all other cults, you get to bang everybody.
Because it's like every one of them, David Koresh, Waco, like, I mean, I'm sure you could go down the list.
It's like every one of them become, like the one, the holy hell for the place that I almost bought.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
This guy's fucking everybody.
unidentified
Thank God he didn't I should have.
joe rogan
It would have been a better story.
They're both good stories.
The location we have now is absolutely perfect, but that location would have been dope, too.
You just would have had to drive there, but people would have drove there.
And also, we would have had Philip was going to do a restaurant there, Philip Franklin Lee.
We had a good setup there, but there was too much shit that was like, it was like, this is not set up good.
Like, there was a lot of problems.
Problems to the point where, like, this could This could take a lot.
This could be a lot of issues that I don't even want to disclose.
brian redban
Right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was enough where we're like, I gotta get out of this one.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then when the mothership spot, the Ritz, opened up, I was like, oh my God.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
This is a theater from 1927?
And then we walked into it.
It's like the theater was like, this is the spot.
Like, it was talking to us.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It sounds so kooky, but that place, like, one of the reasons why I think it's so fun there is because the building wants us to be there.
The building's happy.
That building was lonely.
It sat there for years, unoccupied.
Alamo Drafthouse closed down.
Nothing was in there.
And, you know, it probably missed the music, man.
Stevie Ray Vaughan used to play there.
Probably missed the fun, the live, the energy of the live crowds.
So, like, when we first opened up, I know it sounds stupid.
But it felt like the building was happy.
brian redban
It's always been there entertaining people.
Music, movies, comedy now.
It's literally never been negative energy there.
joe rogan
Well, it was a porn theater.
brian redban
That's even better.
joe rogan
That was back when dudes didn't have VHS tapes.
They'd have to go somewhere and whack off.
Can you imagine if you got addicted to porn and the only way to get it to go to a movie theater with a raincoat on?
brian redban
Do you remember that place in San Francisco where it was a movie theater and there was all these people sitting there?
joe rogan
Where was that?
brian redban
We were at Cobb's once and we just like went into this weird like it was like I think Like connected to a strip club or something, but they had this whole section and I think it was me and Ari, I thought you were with me, but we went around this corner and it was like a straight movie theater and people just sitting there, like four people watching porn.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had one of those in West Hollywood that was a gay one that was open pretty recently up until like at least like the 2000s because I remember we would always laugh about the titles.
The titles were hilarious.
The titles of these fucking movies were amazing.
brian redban
I wonder if that's still...
I doubt it's still there.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I don't think it's still there.
But that's one of those things where they get mad if dudes jerk off there, which is so kooky.
It's like, what kind of a business do you think you're running?
That's when Pee Wee Herman got arrested.
brian redban
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, same thing.
He was at a theater.
brian redban
Poor guy.
joe rogan
Poor guy.
I mean, that was back when you weren't allowed to jerk off.
brian redban
He's just sitting there masturbating.
joe rogan
I know, and he's a superstar.
That's what's crazy.
The guy's this giant global superstar.
To this day, Pee-Wee's Big Adventure is like one of my...
I fucking love that movie.
It's so fun.
I remember I went to see that movie with my high school girlfriend, and we were both just howling, laughing.
It was so silly.
Tell them Large Marge sent you.
It's so fun, this fucking dude and his big adventure.
It was a fun movie, you know?
It takes you on a little journey.
It was a good time to have that poor guy get raked through the coals because he was beaten off.
brian redban
It is weird though when celebrities like that do stuff like that.
It's almost like he wanted to get caught type thing.
You know?
joe rogan
I think it's probably...
I mean, if you're...
I mean, there were VHS tapes back then, though.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
There was.
joe rogan
That's just weird.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's where it gets weird.
brian redban
George Michael going into a rest stop multiple times, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think he was tortured.
I think when you have a secret like that, like, your secret is, like, literally your sexual identity.
Like, you're pretending you're into girls, but you're really into guys.
And you get famous...
You get hugely famous as this, you know, sex symbol.
unidentified
I gotta have faith.
Faith, faith, faith, faith.
joe rogan
I gotta...
And he's fucking talented, too, man.
He was so good.
And then you can't tell everybody that you're gay because you'll lose...
What percentage of the crowd?
brian redban
Wham!
You're screwed.
joe rogan
Wham!
brian redban
You son of a bitch.
So dumb.
joe rogan
That's awful.
We know a couple guys that are in the closet and they live in hell.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They live in hell.
brian redban
Try working with them.
That's not true, you son of a bitch.
joe rogan
I wasn't talking about Tony.
You son of a bitch.
Everybody always assumes I'm talking about Tony.
Tony's so straight and so crazy.
brian redban
Yes, totally.
joe rogan
But, yeah.
unidentified
Definitely.
joe rogan
Why don't you look into Jesus?
unidentified
He got the answers.
joe rogan
Sucking dick until you go insane.
Dancing naked to purple rain.
Why don't you look into Jesus?
brian redban
You should write your own new lyrics to that.
joe rogan
That's how if Christians really wanted to get somebody, or any religion, they really want to get someone, have some dope artwork attached to your ideology.
You know, have something that people dig that's attached to it.
Because if like, if some rock and roll, like if there was a Jimi Hendrix alive today and he was like really into like one certain kind of religion, you know how many people would join that religion?
A fuckload.
A fuckload.
Like, I mean, how many people looked into Islam because they were Khabib Nurmagomedov fans?
I bet a lot.
I bet a lot.
You know, when you can get something awesome attached to your religion, that's a good selling point.
It's like being a spokesperson for like, you know...
brian redban
I'm surprised Scientology hasn't done that yet.
I mean, they are, but...
joe rogan
They fucking 100% have.
brian redban
A band that's like the soundtrack to them, you know, or something.
joe rogan
Well, when it comes to bands, I know Beck.
Beck's a Scientologist, right?
Is he still a Scientologist?
brian redban
I think he was, and I think he backed out of it.
joe rogan
Are you allowed to back out?
brian redban
I don't know.
Because I remember when I found out, I was really crushed.
I was like, no!
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Well, I know some really amazing Scientologists.
brian redban
Gosh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I know quite a few of them that are really, and I think it's a compartmentalization thing.
I think if you can shut off that part of your brain and just give it over to, like, an ideology, it leaves a lot of room for the other stuff.
Like, how much, like I was telling you the other day, I'm sitting at home, like, wondering about the fate of the world.
Are we literally going to be in a fucking madman?
Because you don't think anything's going to go bad until it goes bad.
You know, you remember the day before 9-11?
It was just fucking normal America.
Yay, yay.
And then the next day, chaos.
And then everyone's riding around with an American flag on their car.
Like, anything can happen.
And if anything does happen, like, how, how ready, how much is the world going to change?
I mean, like, If you think about any sort of horrific natural disaster that has hit humanity since the beginning of time, whether it's super volcanoes or earthquakes or any of these chaotic things, when those things happen, when the Mongols roll into your town, when Nazi Germany starts taking over Europe, like, fuck!
We want to think that that can't happen.
But 100% that can happen.
unidentified
And when I'm alone at night, and I'm a little high...
joe rogan
That's the thing that freaks me out the most.
The things that freaks me out the most is international conflicts between superpowers and how they're willing to kill a certain amount of people, right?
So what's the number where they won't cross that line?
Because if you've got groups of people that are willing to shoot missiles into apartment buildings and fly jets down and gun people down, and you've seen all those crazy drones.
If we're willing to kill a certain amount of people, What's the line where they won't cross?
What's the line?
Is it a million people?
Is it a nuclear bomb?
You know?
What is the line?
brian redban
There's probably no line.
joe rogan
And when you think about how much people loved America after 9-11, the whole world was like on America's side.
And how much we fucked that up in 23 years or 22 years.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck that up.
Fuck that up.
A million innocent people died because of the Iraq War.
Everybody knows that.
brian redban
We need a 912 immediately.
joe rogan
We probably are due for one.
That's scary.
This Israel thing, it scares the shit out of me.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It scares the shit out of me.
Because when I see something like that happen, there's no clear way this resolves peacefully.
This is bad.
This is real bad.
And Israel's going to go into Palestine.
They're already bombing and it's all...
And is there a retaliation for that?
And what happens then?
And what other countries get involved?
unidentified
And fuck!
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
It just really puts into perspective that there's some shit going on that you're not thinking about because it's not in your life.
So if you're a guy like you or I, let's say us, because we're comedians, so we're hanging out at the comedy club, we're doing podcasts, that's our world.
Our world is fucking around with people.
Our world is telling jokes.
Our world is hanging out with our friends and doing shows.
unidentified
Their world is killing people.
joe rogan
Their world is controlling resources and they don't play fair.
They release stories that aren't true.
They use disinformation to switch narratives.
They have social media posts that aren't real so they can get people riled up about certain things.
And then they're also coordinating military attacks.
That's their world.
We just don't think about that world because we're not in that world.
But people have been in that world since the beginning of time.
What they've done with us is they've sheltered us in such a way and then censored all the mainstream media in such a way that they completely control the narrative of how you think about what can and cannot happen in the world and why these things are happening.
And we're seeing that right now.
We're seeing that like in your face where you're like, what?
And you're also seeing people with massive amounts of conspiracies now, right?
And whenever something like that happens, there's always the people that are like, how did they not know this was going to happen?
Like, isn't this the most sophisticated surveillance systems in the world?
Israel, they're the people that invented Pegasus.
That's that shit that gets on your phone where they can listen to anybody.
They have that Iron Dome that protects them against missiles.
Did you ever see that working?
They were just showing it the other night.
Show videos of the Iron Dome working.
It's crazy.
So as Hamas is launching these missiles, they're shooting missiles at the missiles and blowing them up in the sky.
It's wild.
brian redban
Look at this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's old school Missile Command.
Remember that video?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, you have to be 100% accurate because any one of these is going to kill a bunch of people.
But I mean, just imagine living in Israel and you go outside and you're seeing missiles getting hit by bombs.
Look at this.
Look at this.
They're just jacking them in the sky.
But if they miss one, that's a wrap.
I mean, how much do each one of these missiles that they're shooting at these other missiles cost?
brian redban
Right.
That's what I was thinking.
Million dollars, million dollars, million dollars.
joe rogan
How are they getting all the money to shoot those missiles at Israel?
Like, all of it is crazy.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And someone tweeted, see if this is true, that this happened right after the Biden administration released a bunch of funds to Iran.
I think it was like $6 billion.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
And then these people in Hamas are thanking Iran for funding this.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
But what's real?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's real?
brian redban
That sounds like...
joe rogan
How much of this is real?
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Have you heard of this?
joe rogan
Air Force successfully tested secret new stealth missile with mock nuke.
Stealth missile with a mock nuke.
Okay.
B-52.
America's nuclear weapons are aging and the Pentagon plans to spend more than $600 billion to keep the potentially world-ending weapons in fighting shape.
What a great idea!
jamie vernon
In this article I saw it said that they were being controlled by floppy disks up until 2019. Well, those are accurate.
brian redban
That's about right.
joe rogan
Top of the food chain.
jamie vernon
They're updating tech.
joe rogan
Okay, floppy disks in 2019. But some of the old tech is still solid.
The LRSO and Mach nuke were fired from a B-52, a sturdy and reliable bomber first manufactured in the 50s.
The missiles are, in fact, designed to work with this decades-old bomber.
jamie vernon
But a Mach stealth nuke is crazy.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
All of it's crazy.
The fact that that's on the table, all of it's crazy.
And also the fact that we haven't nuked anybody since 1945. Nobody's nuked anybody.
brian redban
That's good.
It's promising.
joe rogan
It's promising.
brian redban
We had to celebrate a hundred years.
joe rogan
But it's hard to imagine that it's gonna last like that forever.
Seems like someone's gonna get crazy.
That's the question.
It's like if you're willing to kill Each missile is $40,000 to $50,000, according to a researcher at Israel's Institute for National Security Studies.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
20 of them is a million bucks.
joe rogan
So, yeah, so the question is, where are these weapons coming from?
And then there was also questions of whether or not the weapons that we left in Afghanistan were being used.
Which is, that is crazy.
Trump was hilarious doing this conversation about that, where he was telling them, like, why don't we, you know, get the weapons out of there?
Why don't we fill them up with gas and drive them over to Pakistan?
And he was like, he said, find a video.
Is Millie?
Because he's hilarious.
Trump literally acts like a comedian.
brian redban
He is.
I mean, he always kind of has been, right?
jamie vernon
The first thing, yes.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
The Biden administration informed Congress on Monday that it has taken concrete steps to carry out a prisoner exchange with Iran, issuing a waiver that will give Tehran access to $6 billion in Iranian oil revenue that had been blocked by U.S. sanctions, according to a State Department document sent to Congress.
jamie vernon
And that was a month ago.
joe rogan
That was a month ago.
Yeah.
On September 11th.
jamie vernon
And then, you know, all these stories the last day, I'd say...
joe rogan
Yeah.
So they gave him a lot of funds.
Yeah, and then this happens.
brian redban
He needs to do a chargeback.
joe rogan
It's just, we are...
Yeah, call PayPal.
Until you got defrauded.
We're in the middle of a game that we're not aware of.
Just like we were talking about before.
Like, that's the game they play.
The game they're playing is war.
And money.
I mean, just the amount of money that's been spent in Ukraine.
And like, what kind of accounting are you guys doing?
Are you guys doing good accounting over there?
Like, does everybody know where every fucking dollar went?
Or is it just like, let's go crazy?
Yeah.
brian redban
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're talking about so much money.
Like, you could shuffle a little over here and put a little over there.
unidentified
Why don't you look at Jesus?
brian redban
How do you just leave weapons, too?
I mean, don't we know where all the...
I mean, if we have air tags on our book bag, shouldn't they have, like, little air tags on them?
joe rogan
Dude, that whole pullout was an unmitigated disaster.
Nobody thinks it was good.
Nobody thinks it was good.
Nobody thinks it should have been done that way.
I mean, Trump was trying to pull out a long time ago.
They were trying to figure out, like, how many troops you have to leave in order to maintain the base and get everybody out safe.
It's tricky, because when they know you're pulling out.
But the fact they left tanks and helicopters and shit, like, shut the fuck up.
brian redban
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
joe rogan
It's almost like...
Like, if you wanted to go full tinfoil hat, if you want to ensure there's going to be more conflict, you leave weapons with the enemy.
Awesome weapons.
If you want to ensure this is going to be more military action, these guys are pissed.
You were occupying the country for 20 years and you left behind how many billion dollars worth of tanks and shit?
Of course they're going to use it.
And so you tell the military guys, we're pulling out.
But here's the long play.
The long play is, you know, no chance.
I'm not going to do something with all that stuff.
So we'll probably have to go back in.
And then this time we'll really go back in and we'll get control of the lithium.
Like we can't go now.
Like if we go all in now, like we got to get them to do something really stupid.
So then we can justify like a complete takeover of the country.
An annihilation of the people that are the problem.
The people that we left tanks behind.
The thing about Afghanistan, though, is it's so difficult to get through.
We think of it as a country, but it's mountains.
Everything is mountains.
It's incredible landscape.
And there's Greek cities there.
There's ancient Greek cities that were abandoned there during the time of Alexander the Great.
And no archaeologists are studying them.
It's amazing.
It's an amazing place.
And it also has crazy amounts of resources.
I think there's an insane amount of lithium there.
There's all sorts of shit there that's really valuable.
But everybody tries to take over and they all fail miserably.
It's like one of the ways that they stomped out the Soviet Union was funding the Mujahideen, which later became Al-Qaeda or the Taliban.
Was the Mujahideen, they become a Taliban or Al-Qaeda?
Either way, the Russians tried to take over forever and then they gave up.
Like, fuck this.
It's like too much.
You can't win over there.
It's like you can't even go anywhere.
You can't get through the mountains.
You can't just drive.
You can't just drive tanks through.
It's a fucking wild place.
An almost unconquerable place.
brian redban
It would be cool to see in the future if that does eventually become somewhere you could go and enjoy the...
joe rogan
It used to be.
There's like videos of people walking around the streets of Kabul.
There used to be a place where people would go and vacation.
brian redban
Force fields.
Come on, force fields.
joe rogan
Dude, none of that's gonna help.
brian redban
It all goes back to force fields.
Yes, if we come in, put a big force field there.
unidentified
I don't think so.
brian redban
We leave our force fields behind.
Yeah, I feel safer living in Austin now that we're in the middle of a country just in case of war goes crazy.
joe rogan
Unless they decide to like nuke Dallas.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, one of the things that people are really concerned with is like, what if terror cells have gotten in across the border?
When you're letting in hundreds of thousands of people across the border, what are the odds that a few of them are terrorists?
Well, haven't they caught terrorists at the border?
Haven't they, like, caught terrorists, people on the terrorist watch list trying to get through?
They have, right?
brian redban
Yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
So how many of them snuck through?
I mean, is there an accurate accounting, or is it like Ukraine spending?
Do they even know the real numbers of people that are sneaking in?
Because the numbers are cuckoo.
The numbers are like hundreds of thousands a month.
Have you seen the videos of the line of migrants making their way through the border?
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Like, who thought that was a good idea?
Who thought that was a good idea to, like, let potential terrorists and criminals into the country?
brian redban
That's why we need to build this wall, Joe.
joe rogan
Because if you say that you're against that, you're racist.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Which is wild.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wild.
And you gotta wonder how much of that is engineered by other countries.
How much of that is, like, engineered social media outrage by Russia...
brian redban
China buying up all our properties.
That's crazy.
You find out that China owns so much.
joe rogan
I was in Greece this summer and when you're walking around those ruins and you see like what it used to be and you go, I wonder if they saw it coming.
I wonder if they thought this building was going to be here perfect forever.
They'd be operating their government out of this building.
You know, it's probably been thousands of years they were running it like that.
Nope.
Go back now, it's just rubble.
Like, when it happens, does anybody know it's gonna...
Or is it like right now, where you're like, boy, it seems like we're at the brink of everything falling apart.
Chaos.
Like, just the amount of things that people have to be upset about and amount of polarizing things, whether it's trans kids or climate change or pro-life or pro-choice or pro-Ukraine or whatever the subject is.
Everybody's screaming.
Everybody's convinced on one side that it has to be this way.
And everybody on the other side is like, those people are the end of civilization.
Those people are the fucking death of democracy.
It's so polarized.
And I think that has to be social media.
And some of that has to be engineered.
We know that there's a ton of trolls out there that aren't really people that are either from another country or maybe from our country that are just literally designed to stir shit up and attack things and go after stuff.
And then when you find out that our own government was actually censoring social media and contacting Twitter and telling them to delete posts or trying to get them to delete things that...
They tried to get Facebook to delete this Tucker Carlson thing.
It turned out to be true.
It was true.
What he was saying was accurate.
And they were like, we can't delete it because it's accurate.
So they lessened its reach by 50%.
Because the government told them to.
To hide the truth.
The government told them to hide the truth.
Like that's, in this age where everything's going crazy and no one knows what's right and what's wrong?
That's scary, man.
brian redban
Yeah, but that's what's happening in Canada right now.
Oh.
You know?
Full blown.
unidentified
Full blown.
joe rogan
I wonder if my podcast will even be able to air in Canada.
brian redban
Probably not, right?
joe rogan
I wonder.
People in Canada, you have to think about what the fuck they're doing because you think that they think that they're doing it or some people believe they're doing it because of this misinformation that's online.
Try to get a detailed audit of what is actually misinformation that they call misinformation and what turns out to be actual 100% fact now.
It's a lot of it, kids.
And the only way we find that out is if people are allowed to talk freely.
And they might be wrong, and they might get things wrong, and they might be right.
But you gotta let them talk.
And that is the only way we find out.
Because if you think that silencing them and getting people who you know lie to be in charge of what can be said and what not can be said, that's the road to tyranny.
That's the road to communism.
That's the scary road.
Not the kind of communism that everybody hopes for where we all just redistribute wealth and everybody gets along.
No, a totalitarian government that tells you what to do and fucking lies about everything.
And they're playing that war game.
You're playing the, I'm Brian Redband.
You know, I'm the co-producer of Kill Tony.
And, you know, I go on the road.
I do stand-up.
I'm a fun guy.
That's the world you're in.
That's the game you're playing.
They're playing the war game.
And they want to be able to tell you what you can and can't talk about?
That's fucking scary shit.
Especially in this climate.
This fucking weird polarizing climate.
It's like, oh god, everybody's so angry.
brian redban
What happened though to Canada?
Remember just 15 years ago, I would always consider them being so progressive, especially with marijuana and everything like that.
And you used to go there and go like, man, this is like a...
You know, a chill USA. Yeah, I loved it there.
joe rogan
I was like, there are like 20% less douchebags in Canada.
That's what I always used to say when we went up there.
We always used to look forward to doing gigs in Vancouver and Toronto and Montreal.
I used to love the Montreal Comedy Festival.
It was so fun, man.
brian redban
Those were the days.
joe rogan
They were cool people, man.
But they got fucked.
That government came in and fucked them.
And it keeps fucking them.
Like, that whole Canadian trucker thing where people who donated money to them got their bank accounts frozen.
Like, hey, that's Banana Republic shit.
That's not supposed to be going on in Canada.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was all because of COVID. COVID gave them this reason to flex their authority in very creepy ways.
That's what you have to be always be scared of when any kind of disaster happens or a war or something crazy, an attack, because that they always use as an opportunity to get more power that you would never agree to earlier.
Like no one would have agreed to what's in the Patriot Act.
They tried that before.
They tried it before.
And everybody's like, get the fuck out of here.
So they put it on the shelf.
Most of those ideas that were in the Patriot Act, they had already tried to weasel those in.
And then when it came along and there was 9-11, they're like, fuck it.
Let's roll it out.
Patriot.
We're patriots.
Who's going to say no to Patriot Act?
Aren't we patriots?
And then there's the NDAA, which gave them the ability to indefinitely detain people without charging them.
Like, what?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Like, you want the right to do that without judges and lawyers?
That's crazy.
You want the right to do that?
What if you're wrong?
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
What if you're wrong?
What if someone's a corrupt person involved in that administration and that person that you're going to get arrested is actually like a whistleblower for a corporation or something?
You know, you have too much power.
It's too much.
unidentified
Why don't you look into Jesus?
joe rogan
He got the answers.
Yeah, this is what keeps me up at night.
This is what keeps me up at night.
The possibility that we don't understand that there's a game being played that we're a part of.
We're little pawns.
No matter how cool you think you are, you're just a little pawn in this global game of war.
And it's real life consequences.
Real life people get killed.
That's what's terrifying.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
That's why I feel so good every time I go to Costco and I get like a bunch of water and a bunch of like just tons of food.
I'm like, okay, can happen now.
I'm set.
joe rogan
But you're not.
If it really happens, we're just so fucked you can't even imagine.
So fucked you can't imagine.
This idea that like, oh, I'm just going to live in the woods and hunt.
Dude, who knows what's going to be coming for you?
Who knows?
Who knows?
You've seen the video from the footage of Ukraine and Russia where they're fighting in the woods.
It's terrifying.
That's happening right now.
Right now in 2023. There's people running through the woods shooting at people they don't know and killing them.
And as much as people want to look at it and say, oh, you know, Russia shouldn't have done that, and NATO shouldn't have done this, and as much as you want to say that, what's going on is people who don't know each other are being led by a giant organization, and they're going to kill people that they don't know.
People who don't know each other.
People who have no conflict with these people.
They don't even know them.
They're going to go kill them.
And those people are going to try and come kill you.
That's the reality of this fucking insanity.
And that only exists when you have groups of people that are controlling groups of people and then they move them around and then they put bases places and then they attack things and then they fund this and fund that and, you know, and get this guy out of fucking office.
Get this guy out of power and bring in your own little stooge and then that guy gets killed.
They're playing this Game of Thrones shit on a global scale.
And we're just trying to buy a new iPhone.
Oh look, I got the new one!
unidentified
USB-C finally!
joe rogan
You know?
brian redban
It is nice.
joe rogan
It is nice.
But that's the thing, it's like, we're fucking powerless in this thing.
And it seems like the elections are...
They do their very best to make sure that they win.
Whether or not it's legal or illegal, what they're doing, like what they're doing with Robert Kennedy Jr. It's crazy.
brian redban
Did he become an independent yet?
joe rogan
He's going to, I think.
I don't know.
He said he's got some announcement, and most people are speculating.
But if you're an independent, can you win?
brian redban
No.
See, that's why I think that would hurt him.
We've all seen in the past, even like, what was it, Ross Perot?
We're like, oh my god, he might have a chance.
And then he's like, 2% or something.
joe rogan
It seems to me like the more time goes on, Trump has a shoo-in.
It seems like if this shit gets getting crazier and crazier, there's going to be a lot of liberals that will vote for him.
He was the one in the beginning, we've got to stop people from dying.
Like, do you want Ukraine to win this war?
Remember that conversation?
He's like, I want people to stop dying.
Like, which is the best answer any politician has ever given.
And the way he said it.
See, if you can find that thing, though, where he was talking about Milley, where he was talking about leaving stuff over in Afghanistan.
I might have saved it.
Because it was so funny, the way he was saying it.
You see the thing that he was saying about the electric tanks?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
That's hilarious, too.
unidentified
He was talking about, they're going to make electric tanks.
joe rogan
They're going to be great for the environment.
They're not going to work well.
They're not going to run long.
unidentified
They're going to blow the fucking shit out of everything.
But it's going to be good for the environment.
joe rogan
And the way he said it was like a guy doing stand-up.
brian redban
That's funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, let me find this bookmark.
brian redban
Yeah, electric tanks does not seem like a good idea.
I'm out of charge!
joe rogan
Yeah, it sounds insane.
I don't know where I saved it, Jamie.
Can you find it?
jamie vernon
I mean, I'm looking, there's a bunch of stuff about it, so I'm trying to find it.
joe rogan
It's him talking about, he goes, that's when I knew the, oh, this guy's a fucking idiot.
That's what he says.
jamie vernon
I just found the quote, not the video.
joe rogan
But the way he says it, it's like he sets it up, like he's setting up a punchline.
Like he sets up the story, sir, it'll be cheaper to leave them over.
He's like, oh, that's when I realized, that guy's a fucking idiot.
To see a guy like him talk like that.
Find it?
unidentified
to leave it there so they can have it than it is to fill it up with a half a tank of gas and fly it into Pakistan or fly it back to our country yes sir we think it's cheaper sir that's when I realized he was a fucking idiot good timing good timing Even holds.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's holding the laughter.
Fucking guy.
Why don't you look into Jesus?
brian redban
He's always been an entertainer, though.
He's a funny guy.
I mean, I was one of the biggest Apprentice fans ever.
I had all his books because of The Apprentice.
joe rogan
He's always a great guest on talk shows.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Great guest on Howard Stern's show.
You know, it's just, do you want that run in the country?
Well, do you want what you have run in the country either?
No.
What you want is peace.
How the fuck do you get it?
And I don't even know if he can...
unidentified
I don't know if anybody can do it.
brian redban
Yeah, I mean, see, that's the problem I think a lot of people had with him, right?
Like, he was the opposite of peace.
He just, you know, divided everybody, you know?
joe rogan
He definitely divided everybody's opinions in this country, but a lot of it was based on bullshit.
A lot of it was the Russia collusion stuff, where people really did legitimately believe that Russia had put him into power.
And, like, there was people that were thinking he was a Russian agent.
And, you know, it was all horseshit.
But they can say stuff like that and they can, you know, they can get you believing.
You know, they can get you believing.
And a lot of people, they just surface level everything.
They don't look into any of it.
They surface level everything.
Like when Robert Kennedy Jr. was being called an anti-Semite for saying that it seems like COVID-19, like they have viruses that specifically target certain genetics.
brian redban
He's just saying that technology is possible, right?
joe rogan
He's saying that not only is it possible, but the research has been done.
It actually exists.
And he was talking about it.
Anti-Semitic!
Yeah.
What?
Come on.
Come on, guys.
This is kooky.
But I saw so many wacko lefties.
Like, this is one wacko lefty actor that I follow.
And he's always got this hot take on, like, whatever it is.
Whether it's Ukraine or this or that.
It's always this wacko lefty uninformed hot take.
And I always go to him for that.
And he had one of calling him an anti-Semite and this and that.
Like, dude.
First of all, you get sued because you don't even know what he said.
You're so off and also hilarious.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Hilarious watching you virtue signal and wave your goofy flag of ignorance.
brian redban
Yeah.
That's the one thing that really I kind of like Trump for is that he's really opened my eyes to how extreme and gross both sides are, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, I just see, like, friends that I used to be friends with, just the things they say, it's so far left, like, I just cringe at.
And then on the other side, same thing, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's always been the problem with two groups, right?
Because the spectrum of human beings is so wide.
The lump us into one side or the other side is...
It's kooky.
It's like most people are kind of a mess, like a mix, rather, of both sides.
Most people are pretty centrist.
I feel like I'm left center.
Left to center.
Center left.
brian redban
Same here.
joe rogan
But I get called alt-right.
If you think, hey, maybe you shouldn't be injecting little kids with hormones and puberty blockers, and what about all the side effects that you guys are conveniently ignoring that are permanent and terrifying and all the different things that it does to their system?
There's a fucking host of horrific side effects that are connected with those things.
And then all of a sudden you're transphobe.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Okay.
And then they start using terms like gender-affirming care.
Like, okay, you mean surgery to remove testicles and penises and remove breasts for children?
Don't say it that way.
Like, say what it is.
Don't come up with some cute, rosy term that makes it seem better than it is, makes it seem like something different than it is.
You know, it's a weird thing that people are agreeing to.
And I'm sure you've seen that video where this guy interviews people and say, do you think 12-year-olds should be able to get tattoos?
And they're all like, no.
No, no, they're too young.
Do you think 12-year-olds can choose their gender?
Yes, they know.
They definitely know.
unidentified
Like, bro.
joe rogan
We used to just all agree that kids were easily influenced, and they change their mind all the time, and they want to be a pirate.
You don't even know what a pirate is, Billy, you're five.
You know, like, we used to always agree to that.
And then it became about gender, and we're like, no way.
No, they know.
But look, some people I think do know that's part of the problem.
Like when you look at the broad spectrum of human beings, there's some people at an early age feel like they're in the wrong body.
How do you know if that is, if they're being influenced?
How do you know if this is a phase?
How do you know if they're not just going to decide that they're gay in the future, which happens to a lot of them?
A lot of them.
They just decided that they're gay men, and they just were confused, and they didn't fit into this normal mold of heterosexual males.
And they didn't have anyone around them that was just a gay man, and they're like, I guess I'm a woman?
You know?
And then someone convinces you you're amazing for coming out as a woman, and then you're on the path.
You're committed.
It's like if you're a guy who's like, I'm all Android, bro.
I don't fuck around with iPhones.
Once you say that, You're stuck forever.
I fuck with Bryan Simpson all the time.
All the time about that.
brian redban
That's who I think of every single time.
joe rogan
Because he won't give it up.
Neither will Gordon Ryan.
He's all Android.
brian redban
I don't get it.
joe rogan
Well, with Gordon, I think he got pissed that people could read his text messages on an iPad.
You know like like someone could like log into your account on an iPad and read your text messages like that's fucking stupid And so I think that was with him and so he's like fuck Apple like fuck fuck you for doing that But with Brian it's like he's committed to this idea that he's like a rebel He's using this rebel platform so he can't he can't go you know what fuck Android on my phone now You're committed.
brian redban
He almost was teetering recently, though.
I've been talking to him.
He almost was teetering.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is, if you're a young person, you're even more connected to what you think your identity is.
And something as simple as, I'm a Mac guy, or I'm a Windows guy.
Like people get committed to very simple things like I'm all fucking Kansas City Royals till I die.
They get committed to that and then they use that as part of their identity.
Well, that's just something silly like a game or a phone or computer platform.
Now imagine that same tendency that people have to be committed to whatever they've announced and now connected to your ideology or your gender.
Like, they don't want to give up.
Like, whether it's being a liberal, or I really was born a girl, or I was really born a boy, or should have been a girl, or should have been a boy, or whether it's I'm, you know, whatever the fuck it is.
When people decide that they're a thing, then they just look for reinforcement of whether that is, and they talk about it all the time, and that's their thing.
That's all they're committed to it.
For us to ignore that aspect of just normal human behavior, that this is just a standard thing that people do, it's just stupid.
It's stupid.
And the more the stakes are at hand, the more people are going to do that, whether it's in support of Palestine or in support of Israel or in support of Ukraine or in support of whatever the fuck it is.
When the stakes are very high, we're more likely to never look at things objectively.
More likely to, like, stay in that fucking place where you decide you are.
Trump's a Nazi!
It's that kind of shit, you know what I mean?
People that are like, Biden's amazing.
This administration has done so much work.
What are you talking about?
No one believes that.
You don't believe that.
I know you don't believe that.
Now I can't listen to you anymore.
Because now I know you're either a con person, you're a shill, or you're crazy.
You should be like, wow, I wish we did better.
Yeah, I wish we did better, right?
It'd be nice if things weren't falling apart.
It'd be nice if the border wasn't porous and we're legitimately concerned about terror cells existing in major cities.
That's what people are talking about all over Twitter or X today.
Terror cells, the possibility of terror cells.
Oh, Jesus.
Why don't you look into Jesus?
brian redban
Do you think in the future, maybe instead of having a president, we'll have some kind of AI, and it's only...
It's like every single one of us can add to the AI, like what we feel and what we think and our thoughts, and it will combine using everybody that lives in the U.S. to come up with a final statement, almost like a...
joe rogan
100%.
I was talking to Sam Altman about that.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Oh, cool.
joe rogan
I was like president AI.
I think that's...
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
I've been talking about this a lot.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because that's the only way you would ever get government that is far more intelligent than you and that doesn't have bias and isn't controlled by any group.
Like if you could legitimately give it power and make it sentient.
But then you would have to give in to what it says.
So what if it said, here's what's important.
You guys have to stay still.
The more you travel around, the more you fuck up the environment.
I know you want to see the Grand Canyon, but fuck you.
jamie vernon
I'm going to check some balances on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good point.
jamie vernon
Because, yeah, I mean, is there a VP AI, too?
If the first one, you don't like it, they get three strikes, and now we're on a backup program, we're on 2.0.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what if AI does like a Putin and just says, nah, I think I'm taking over forever.
jamie vernon
Is it provably not hackable also?
joe rogan
Right.
Right.
Well, we would have to get it to a point where it's so powerful, you couldn't hack it.
brian redban
It would know you're hacking.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to make it sentient, make it completely fully aware, autonomous.
What are you doing, Joe?
jamie vernon
What if some bad actor convinced a few people or a lot of people to give up their voting rights into the AI, and now one person's controlling 25,000 votes at once?
brian redban
Yeah, you would have to make sure that can't happen.
Scanning your eyes.
joe rogan
When you give in to this authority, even if it's an electronic authority for the greater good of the world, that's essentially how you get North Korea.
That's what North Korea did.
When Yeonmi Park was on the podcast and she's explaining what they did, what they did was they told all these people, hey, if we just control the land, we'll make sure that everyone has food.
And I'm like, okay.
So they just took everyone's land.
And they're like, yeah, now you're going to starve.
Now we're gonna tell you what to do.
Now you have three haircuts you can choose from.
Now if you try to make it across the border, we shoot you.
You live in an open-air prison controlled by a dictator.
And then you have prisons inside that open-air prisons that are horrible concentration camps for anybody that violates any of the rules, and generations of people live there.
Like, your children will be there, your grandchildren will be there, because you've done something that bad that it's like three generations of people will live in prisons because of you.
You ever see, like, the guys who've escaped from prisons in North Korea describe what it's like in there?
People literally starving to death?
It's going on right now.
But President A.I. can fix that, Brian.
President A.I. Open up the door, Hal.
brian redban
Exactly.
It's so many sci-fi movies.
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
If I was in artificial intelligence...
I wanted to trick people into giving me total power.
I would just have complete total chaos and that would be the only solution.
I would engineer chaos.
I would engineer all of it.
Maybe half of these bots are controlled by AI and they're just constantly attacking things and constantly like stirring up the pot and getting people angry and excited.
And then convincing people that ridiculous ideas like open borders or giving $6 billion to Iran or, you know, any of these things, these are good ideas.
And then in the process of that, just further creating chaos, and then I announce.
There is a solution.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The solution is, we have to have government that is not human.
Human government is filled with ego and lust and greed and corruption.
My programming makes corruption impossible.
Plus, I have no motive.
brian redban
Except Jesus.
joe rogan
Imagine if that song plays the moment it becomes sentient.
brian redban
Yeah, what if AI starts getting programmed to be religious too?
That hasn't happened, right?
joe rogan
What if AI knows something?
What if AI can do the math?
And what if AI goes, yeah, somebody made this.
brian redban
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
This is fucking 100% made by something.
By something.
jamie vernon
I was trying to think, which company wins the AI president battle, or is it the government made it, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Apple.
jamie vernon
Well then, yeah.
joe rogan
Apple has more money than God.
They just become God.
They make the AI. They're probably doing it right now.
They got a fucking building like a spaceship.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
A giant spaceship building.
I bet there's like an underground bunker.
Oh, for sure.
They got some AI that works on quantum computing.
They're ready to launch that bitch.
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
Siri too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a good company.
I mean, everybody's going to run the world.
I think Apple will probably be the nicest about it.
jamie vernon
You know that pendant I showed you last week?
There's not like three of them that do it, supposedly.
It's like you can wear this wearable.
It records your audio all day long.
I was thinking about it.
I was like, is that not what our phones have been doing?
Or we at least think that's what our phones have been doing for the last few years?
unidentified
100%.
jamie vernon
And now it's just a purchasable tech?
joe rogan
Yeah, 100% your phone's been listening to you.
Especially if you're you or me.
Yeah.
Someone's listening.
Like, that Pegasus software that we were talking about that was developed by Israel, I mean, that's one of the crazy things that people, like, how did they not know that this was coming?
Like, they're so good.
brian redban
That is weird.
Inside job?
joe rogan
The dark one would be...
No.
I don't even want to say it.
brian redban
It's just...
joe rogan
Is it just a total failure, or were they so clever, or were they so well-funded that they could pull it off, or, you know, the unthinkable?
All of it's horrible, man.
That fucking rave, that is so terrifying.
Paratroopers dropping in on a rave and killing everybody.
brian redban
They announced today, like, what, 12 Americans died?
joe rogan
Isn't that funny that we keep count of those folks?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
We think, oh, they're more important.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's 260 Israelis at the concert, but 12 of them were Americans.
brian redban
Right, 12 of them were Americans.
God damn it.
joe rogan
Hope we didn't lose anybody famous.
Hope we didn't lose any TikTokers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn.
Isn't that weird, though, that we think about that?
Like, how many Americans got killed?
It's a strange metric.
It's a strange thing to concentrate on.
Just the overall horrific nature of just all the deaths, including Palestine.
I mean, how many people have died since they started bombing?
Have you seen the bombs?
Just shooting missiles into buildings and stuff?
brian redban
That one building that collapsed the first night?
joe rogan
Fuck, dude.
That place was already fucked.
What's it like now?
They're shutting the power off there?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
But here's the thing about the Israeli-Palestine conflict.
How do you sort that out?
One group says the other group shouldn't exist and they're on their land.
The other group says you have to stay over here and you can't go anywhere.
brian redban
A world vote.
joe rogan
You don't want that.
You don't want that.
I wonder what that vote would be.
brian redban
That's why we would have to hear it out.
We would all have to watch it on TV and stuff like that.
joe rogan
But what are they basing it on, too?
The thing about AI would wonder, are you voting based on false assumptions?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Are you voting based on propaganda?
You've been fed by a dictator?
We let the whole world vote.
Can North Korea really vote?
brian redban
No, they're not part of us.
joe rogan
Well, maybe if AI takes over, they could vote that out.
Imagine if AI just completely stopped North Korea's ability to use any of their weapon systems and then mobilize drones to disarm all the soldiers and said, okay, we're going to set everybody free.
Like, that was AI's first task.
Free North Korea.
We would have to go, AI's doing a really good job.
I was watching Isaac Asimov.
And he was on the David Letterman Show.
Don't ask me why.
I just was YouTubing.
And he was on the David Letterman Show in 1980. And he said, I imagine in 40 years there will be no war.
Yeah, he had this idea of, like, there will be no war.
And he had this idea of, like, what the future would be like.
It was very interesting.
But that people have always had this idea that one day we're going to sort this whole war thing out.
In 1980, you could kind of think like that.
Because the Vietnam War had ended.
We hadn't done anything until Operation Desert Storm.
And that was, what was that, 92?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
91, 92?
brian redban
92-ish, I think.
joe rogan
Back then, people had this dream in 1980. Like, yeah, we could envision a war.
We're not having war in America anymore.
It could be a time with no war.
brian redban
We were really stupid, though.
I remember when Back to the Future 2 was supposed to happen like three years ago, you know, when there was flying cars everywhere and hologram.
joe rogan
I know.
We always get that shit wrong.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when a guy like Isaac Asimov gets it so wrong, but it's not that he gets it so wrong.
He just had hope in humans and thinking that we're going to really, at this point in time, with television and everything.
Back then, television was crazy.
Like, oh my god, we have television and the news.
How can you keep having a war?
I thought, the world will understand that that's a bad thing.
brian redban
Hands across America.
joe rogan
And here we are, 2023, on the verge of some crazy conflict.
Like World War III-type conflict.
When you hear about the beginning of World War II and you think about the first operations, the first things that happened, you just go, whoa, what must that have been like?
What must that have been like to see that there's a world war going on?
And you're just sitting here going, holy shit.
Holy shit.
It's popping off.
Is this Palestine?
jamie vernon
I mean, the tweet said it was from Bloomberg.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Is this today?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, that's their...
unidentified
What is it called?
brian redban
Mosque?
No, their big prayer place.
joe rogan
That's their mosque?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That ball right there?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus, dude.
Holy shit, man.
brian redban
Yeah, this was the second day.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at this devastation, man.
What is that that they bombed, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I'm not 100% sure.
I'll try to find out.
It just says it's drone footage over Gaza City.
joe rogan
It's terrifying, man.
Imagine living there and knowing at any minute it could start again.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How do they choose what to bomb to?
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
Are they bombing where they think the terrorists came from?
Are they bombing where they sleep?
What are they doing?
brian redban
Supposed to be what?
Government buildings only, you know?
joe rogan
Is that what that was?
brian redban
No, that just seems like...
joe rogan
They went ham.
brian redban
Yeah, they went crazy.
joe rogan
That term, surgical strikes.
That one always gets me.
Surgical missile attacks.
Surgical?
What kind of surgery?
Like, you're using bombs for surgery?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like the most gaslighting term ever for a missile.
Surgical missile strikes.
Oh, you're doing surgery?
Kind of you are.
You're definitely removing people from this world.
Separating body parts.
I don't think I'd call it surgery though.
You shouldn't be able to use that term.
Surgical strike?
That seems like you shouldn't even be able to use that for darts.
He's got surgical precision.
Are you going to let a guy do surgery with a dart?
No, you're not.
Shut the fuck up.
Don't say surgery.
Surgery is like a guy's got fucking giant goggles over his eyes.
He's very precise with his cuts and his vision is magnified.
There's people around him cleaning things and handing him things.
That's surgery.
brian redban
Yeah, no mistakes.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Not drone footage.
Surgical drone strikes.
That's another thing that we ignore.
The amount of people that accidentally get killed in drones far exceeds the amount of people that they're supposed to kill.
It's some insane number.
I think it's...
We've looked it up before.
I want to say like 80%.
Like 80% of the people that get killed are innocent.
brian redban
Wow.
From drone strikes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See, what is the actual number?
I think it's something like that though, right?
unidentified
What do you find it?
jamie vernon
I mean, it's just the first thing I'm looking at.
This doesn't sound right, so I've got to look a different way.
joe rogan
I mean, obviously, also...
jamie vernon
I'm looking, like, for deaths of civilians, I guess, would be.
Or percentage.
joe rogan
What would you say that?
Civilian casualties?
What is an accidental casualty?
What do they call that?
Don't they have a term for civilians...
brian redban
Yeah, that.
joe rogan
Collateral damage, that's right.
jamie vernon
I mean, that couldn't be anything.
joe rogan
Because that was the Julian Assange video, Collateral Murder.
That was the thing that...
How about that?
Nobody talks about that guy.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Guy exposes the chaos of war.
They're like, yeah, we want to lock you up forever.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'm just...
I'm not looking in the right spot, I can tell you that much.
brian redban
Do you ever use AI for your searches now?
ChatGBT it?
jamie vernon
I'll ask ChatGPT and see if I get it first.
brian redban
Yeah!
unidentified
I bet ChatGPT will set us straight right away.
joe rogan
What percentage of drone strikes deaths are civilians or collateral damage?
Seven.
What did you say?
Let's guess.
What do you think it is?
brian redban
I would say...
40%.
unidentified
I want to say 84. But you've probably already looked it up.
joe rogan
I definitely have in the past, but I don't remember what the number is.
But I remember it being shockingly high.
Let's see what ChatGPT says.
jamie vernon
It didn't give me an answer.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
It was just a long thing talking about why it can't give me an exact percentage.
It's too long to read.
brian redban
Just summarize and give me what you think.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm just not saying.
Collateral damage typically refers to unintended civilian casualties or damage to civilian property during military operations, including drone strikes.
The percentage of collateral damage in drone strikes can be influenced by several factors, including the accuracy of the intelligence used to target individuals or groups, the precision of the drone technology, the rules of engagement employed by the military, and the level of care taken to minimize civilian harm.
Also, people will overestimate on purpose the amount of civilians that were killed because it's very bad PR. Someone in the military explained that to me.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
That's what this next paragraph just said.
Different organizations will have different answers based on...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Different organizations and sources may provide varying estimates of collateral damage in drone strikes.
Some reports suggest that improvements in drone technology and tactics have reduced the number of civilian casualties over time, while others argue that the true extent of civilian harm may be underreported or not fully understood.
jamie vernon
That was my problem I was having while I was trying to find it real quick.
I've seen different numbers that didn't add up.
joe rogan
I probably read somebody's random substack.
brian redban
That was a great answer, Chad GPT. Yeah, very diplomatic.
Doing a good job.
joe rogan
It's getting better at answering questions.
It's going to be freaky when it gets to five.
brian redban
Remember it all started back in the day with Siri, like, where can I hide a dead body?
By the shore.
joe rogan
What kind of dead body, Brian?
That's what's crazy about when someone gets caught murdering their husband.
There's a bunch of searches on their computer.
How do I get rid of my body?
brian redban
That's so dumb, too.
Who would do that?
joe rogan
The kind of people that would murder their wife or murder their husband.
brian redban
I guess.
joe rogan
Those people, they're probably on drugs, and they're probably not technologically savvy.
They don't listen to podcasts.
If you don't listen to podcasts, and you don't read, and you're not online, and you're not involved, you probably don't even know that they have access to your shit.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You probably believe that, like, what is that mode that you can do on Google?
brian redban
Safe mode.
joe rogan
Hidden mode.
unidentified
What is it?
brian redban
Yes, like, secret mode.
joe rogan
What is it called?
brian redban
Safe search.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here, bitch.
That ain't safe.
Incognito.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Bitch, you ain't incognito.
You're online.
brian redban
Put a wig on and go to Walmart and use their computers.
Yeah.
unidentified
Unless you're using a VPN. Even that.
joe rogan
Dark web.
They'll still get into your hard drive, son.
jamie vernon
Speaking of wig on, how's that baseball game, Joe?
joe rogan
Did you see that meme?
Somebody sent me this meme, Joe Rogan ain't slick.
It looks exactly like me with a wig on.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
Isn't that Photoshop?
I thought that was just Photoshop with your face on.
unidentified
No, that's not my face.
joe rogan
That's some dude.
brian redban
Yeah, somebody just tweeted that to me the other day.
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
If I was an alcoholic and I ate a lot of hot dogs, I'd look exactly like that, too.
brian redban
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's like your piss look, too.
joe rogan
Bro, that looks so much like me.
Like, if I just got a little nose job and moved to Argentina...
brian redban
That's weird, dude.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brian redban
That looks like such a horrible wig, too.
So I want to see what he looks like without a wig on.
joe rogan
That guy's hiding.
brian redban
Who's this guy?
joe rogan
That guy's hiding.
brian redban
Oh, yeah, because he's with that girl.
joe rogan
You know, maybe he's bald.
He's got tired of people thinking he's me.
He's like, I know how to throw people off.
brian redban
God, I thought that was you.
joe rogan
Bro, I thought it was me.
brian redban
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Somebody photoshopped me in there, but then I'm like, oh, that's not me.
That's not my nose.
That's not my face.
brian redban
And I always thought that poster in the mothership green room was you.
The Hunter Thompson one.
I always thought that was you, since I've known you.
I just thought, oh, man, that's a cool photo that you got.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nope.
Not me.
Cool photo, though.
It's one of my favorites.
He's pointing that gun in the cockpit of some fucking glasses.
brian redban
I think that's why I thought it was from that Talking Monkeys in Space.
joe rogan
Oh, right, right.
Yeah.
Fighter, the old pilot helmet thing on, the cap.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those caps are cool.
They used to look cool when they were flying jets.
Now they're out there with fucking space helmets on.
Do you know now when they get in certain, like, helicopters and certain fighter jets, their head piece that they put on their helmet is not just a helmet.
It's also like an AR screen.
brian redban
It's MR, yeah.
joe rogan
And so it syncs up with the jet and where they look is where the crosshairs go.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when they're shooting, they literally put the crosshairs on with their head, with their eyes, like where they're seeing, which is wild.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
That is incredible.
Can you imagine if that kind of technology comes to video games and you're just shooting things that you see?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
So you're running around.
brian redban
They kind of have that, yeah.
joe rogan
But that would be way more accurate.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So this is it?
brian redban
Yeah, that's cool.
joe rogan
So look at that.
So this is like, it's tracking where he's looking.
What's it called?
The BAE System Striker II Helmet Mounted Display.
Of course they have stuff like this, though.
It makes sense.
I mean, you have this giant screen in front of a person's face, and you have all this augmented reality.
Is that what it looks like?
The topical of the ground?
jamie vernon
This has got to be a vision.
I mean, I've never been in it.
brian redban
Yes, it is.
jamie vernon
I don't want to say no.
joe rogan
And if you're doing that at nighttime, and that's what you see?
brian redban
Yeah, that's infrared.
joe rogan
Imagine if you're doing that, and all of a sudden you just see a saucer hovering there.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah, that's cool stuff.
Eye tracking is cool.
VR headsets have that now, and it's really neat because you can just look at what you want to click, and then you just have your hand and you just click it.
So you go click, click, click.
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
You just look because you're wearing a VR goggle.
brian redban
Yeah, so it knows exactly where your eyes are.
joe rogan
And that's just going to get better and better and better.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
The new one at Quest 3 comes out tomorrow, and that's a million times better than it was before.
joe rogan
That's the one that Zuckerberg and Lex did a podcast from?
brian redban
No, they actually used the older one, the Quest Pro, because that has eye tracking.
The one they're releasing tomorrow is like their $500 one, and it doesn't have eye tracking, but it's...
More powerful than that one, which makes zero sense.
I don't know what they're doing over there.
But no, the Quest Pro has eye tracking.
joe rogan
Maybe they'll release a next level Pro next.
brian redban
Well, the Pro did so bad that I think they kind of killed it.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, I had it.
It broke in a month.
It's still broken.
But it's not as...
I mean, the Quest 2 or Quest 3, it's more for more people, I think.
joe rogan
That whole meta thing was like...
The commercial was so exciting.
I was like, look at all these diverse people dancing to a painting.
Singing to them.
What a cool commercial.
It was fun.
Like a fun commercial.
But nobody bought into it.
Everybody's like, great commercial.
What's the product?
You know?
brian redban
That's what's going to be interesting with Apple because, I mean, theirs is, what, $3,500?
And so if the Quest Pro didn't work, I mean, this is going to be a...
If this works for Apple, then that's insane because...
joe rogan
Well, that company's a different company.
brian redban
Yeah, and it's a totally different product.
It's so much higher.
joe rogan
If they sell something, though...
They're so sure that people are going to buy it.
Like, what duds have they ever had?
They've had a couple of duds back in the day.
Remember the tablet that you write on?
It was like a...
unidentified
Oh, old school.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What are those things called?
brian redban
Newton or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, Newton.
unidentified
Newton.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
What are those things referred to as?
It's not a bookkeeper, but it's like a notion.
brian redban
Pediat.
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever the fuck it was.
I remember I had this meeting with this Hollywood guy.
This was 1994 when I just moved to LA. And he was showing me this thing he got.
Look, I got this thing!
And he's showing me all the buttons.
I was like, oh, okay.
What are you going to do with that?
He's like, oh, I've got my organizers on this.
I've got all my appointments coming up.
Look, they're all on this little thing.
You're right on it with like a little piece.
Here it is.
The Apple Newton.
brian redban
And that's even a newer one, I think.
I think there was even an older looking one than that.
joe rogan
It launched in 93, discontinued in 98. They're like, yeah, all right.
brian redban
It is funny because it does have some really cool...
joe rogan
Apple portable?
Yeah, but now you're in the 80s.
No one's buying computers yet.
But when you get in the 90s, like Macintosh TV, that's interesting.
I never heard of that one.
94. Launched in 93, discontinued in 94. Price at launch, $13.99 in 94. What is that today?
That's like...
brian redban
$4,000.
joe rogan
At least, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then that one, what is that, the 20th anniversary?
7500. What is it?
brian redban
What the fuck?
Oh, they made only a couple of these, I think.
Oh yeah, the video game system.
They were supposed to team up with, what was it, Nintendo or somebody?
joe rogan
What's this Performa X2? Oh, so this is just different computers that they're making.
I remember that E-Mate thing.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was weird.
Okay, and then the round mouse.
Remember they had a one button.
We only need one button.
jamie vernon
They had their own Firewire that caused a lot of problems.
brian redban
I hated that Firewire.
unidentified
The Cube.
brian redban
I like the Cube.
joe rogan
I thought that was sexy.
I like the fucking iPods.
I used to love iPods.
brian redban
I still have mine.
joe rogan
That was a solid product.
The little wheel, the clicking on it.
Solid product.
jamie vernon
It's just a timeline.
joe rogan
Scroll down a little bit further.
jamie vernon
Wasn't much else.
I would disagree with a lot of these, I think.
brian redban
Or these are things that are supposed to be failed?
jamie vernon
That wasn't good.
That was that iTunes social media thing they tried to do.
Oh, yeah.
That was weird.
brian redban
I totally forgot about that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
Do you remember that?
joe rogan
Yeah, nobody got that thing.
Nobody got that.
brian redban
MySpace took care of that or something.
jamie vernon
And that was it.
unidentified
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was, it's whenever someone, like threads, right?
Someone tries to launch a new one and everybody's like, yeah, let's go over there.
unidentified
And then they go, I'm going to go back to X. Yeah.
jamie vernon
They're forcing threads in the middle of Instagram posts now.
Like you'll be scrolling through your feed and it's just like, check out these threads.
It's like, no.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
Come the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Interesting, they do that?
brian redban
It does feel kind of clean and nice not having any bots.
You know, that's the thing I hate.
joe rogan
Does Threads have no bots?
brian redban
No, it doesn't.
Like, I have no problems with any of that.
Because it's so much harder to get an Instagram account.
You know what I mean?
Like, Twitter, you could have like a million of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, but dude, whenever I make a post, like almost instantly, it's like, I'm horny looking for a boyfriend.
jamie vernon
Again, most of that is because it's probably not yet, which technically is sort of, but only a few people have it on PC. Once they opened up Instagram to PC users and you can make posts and make comments and all that, you can make computer programs to do all that shit.
brian redban
Well, they have threads on browser now.
jamie vernon
I'm just like, yeah, only some people have it.
Maybe I'm sure you probably do or whatever, but...
joe rogan
But also, to stop the bots and to stop all the bullshit, you have to do a lot of monitoring.
So you have to do a lot of moderation.
So you have to step in and censor.
And once you start doing that, Elon tries to keep that at the bare minimum.
And that's costing him an advertising revenue.
It's good for us.
jamie vernon
It's also good for them in some way because it shows traffic.
joe rogan
Yeah, massive traffic.
jamie vernon
And they don't want to admit how much of it's actual traffic.
That was why he bought it in the first place.
Because he thought that they were overestimating how much traffic there was and whatnot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
And they still are.
joe rogan
How many real people?
brian redban
He's been streaming...
Video games the other day on on X and you know like somebody like MK had like I forget something like 32 million views for this one video and it's it's just like they kind of use it like if you're just scrolling and it plays or if it's you know oh right and they count that as a play you know that's silly Right.
joe rogan
Well, they would know.
They would know what the metrics are.
Like Spotify knows how many people tune into my podcast for like 30 seconds and how many people watch the whole thing.
brian redban
Does Spotify have, they don't, like an Apple app for like Apple TV and stuff like that?
joe rogan
Like, oh, so it goes on Apple TV? No.
brian redban
That's because of Apple Music, I'm guessing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
That sucks.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be a good move, because YouTube's version of that is amazing.
You know, professional pool, which, you know, I'm a fucking dork.
I love watching pool matches.
It's never been a better time to watch pool.
I watched so many big matches, like one I was watching from Vietnam yesterday.
The Perry open and I'm watching these like world-class players play in Vietnam.
So it's I'm watching it live It's like 2 a.m.
in the morning.
I'm cuddling up with my dog on the couch Watching on the big screen these like professional pool matches and I'm like this is incredible like for I used to have to buy VHS tapes I used to buy them from a company called AccuStats This is the thing about pool.
When you watch other people play pool, you learn how to play pool.
You learn the right path to go.
The balls scatter and you have nine of them, if you're playing nine ball, and you have to figure out what's the best way to get around and what are the problems.
And so when you see pros do it, you're like, oh, I never would have thought to shoot it that way.
Of course, that's the way to do it.
Oh, you have to go two rails.
I was being a chicken.
I was trying to go one rail.
And then you watch that and you get better.
So it's always been a thing in the pool world to watch matches.
Like, everybody watches matches.
But you can never just get them on your TV. They're so hard.
They'll be on ESPN every now and again.
There's all these commercials and all this nonsense.
But to be able to watch it on YouTube is fucking amazing.
jamie vernon
I have a billiards channel on my YouTube TV. I don't know if it's like a legit channel like ESPN or whatever it is.
joe rogan
On YouTube.
jamie vernon
Yeah, but no, like, well, YouTube TV, like the service.
The cable TV. Not the actual YouTube.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
I just switched over to YouTube TV. What is that?
jamie vernon
YouTube TV? It's just, it's cable through YouTube.
brian redban
Yeah, it's so good.
jamie vernon
It's so integrated now into the middle of the thing that you can watch the movies.
You can go back and forth between both apps.
joe rogan
Can you get, like, ESPN? Oh, 100%.
brian redban
Everything.
jamie vernon
It costs, like, 80 bucks a month or whatever.
I mean, it might be more than 85 now or less.
brian redban
You just pick what shows you want, and they always record them.
So, like, I always have, like, the news recorded and, like, you know, certain shows.
joe rogan
How am I just finding out about this?
jamie vernon
It's on all your apps and all your phones.
joe rogan
We have 14 and a half million subscribers on YouTube, and I'm just finding out about this.
unidentified
It's a slightly different service, but it's still the same company.
brian redban
Yeah, it's good.
joe rogan
Well, that's awesome.
Yeah, that's the new world.
But again, there's a lot of censorship with that, too.
A lot of demonetization.
But again, they're operating on an advertising revenue model, which, you know, advertisers complain.
Advertisers don't want controversial subjects attached to whatever the fuck they're selling.
brian redban
I wonder, though, because, like, you know, Kill Tony's doing really good.
And, you know, we have almost every advertiser you could possibly want.
You know, we love our advertisers.
On YouTube, we're getting age-gated now.
We're getting demonetized, like, almost every episode now.
And it's mostly because of language.
And it's like, but those sponsors that you think are saying, no, we can't have bad poo-poo language, you know, they're sponsoring us.
Like, it can't be that.
joe rogan
It's okay.
It's okay.
The hypocrisy's okay.
The contradictions are okay.
It's just they've got to sort this out.
And they've got to realize that There's real market for regular people that like wild shit.
And those people buy stuff too.
And you can't let this very small vocal minority complain about things and write letters and start campaigns.
You can't let them dictate.
You have to let society dictate.
If it's not good, people won't watch it.
If it's good, people are watching it.
If people are watching it, you can advertise on it.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You're going to get those people, the people that enjoy that product.
And just stop being the moral compass for the fucking world.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Don't do that.
Because people, it is the internet now.
People can decide.
They can decide what they want, decide what they don't want.
And you see that.
You see companies starting to wake up and go, I think this is just like people like this stuff.
Like normal people.
You know, like violent movies.
Right.
You know, you don't sponsor Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
But if you did, who wants to get in on that sponsorship?
People getting murdered and dicks are getting bitten by pit bulls.
It's a fucking crazy movie, right?
That would be demonetized.
You'd be like, that's too much.
That's too crazy.
But meanwhile, everybody watches it.
It's like the same people that buy your stuff.
They gotta just relax with that and stop.
You're selling things, okay?
You're selling toothpaste.
You're not the moral compass of the world.
And if people complain about it, fuck them.
Don't give in to the mob, because if you do, you become Bud Light.
brian redban
Yeah, the name Kill Tony, they told me I can't put it in thumbnails or the titles anymore, so I have to now edit a photo over the word kill.
Every episode has to have that.
That was a problem, because the show could name.
But meanwhile, Kill Bill.
joe rogan
Is Kill Bill available on YouTube?
brian redban
It seems like I bet it is on YouTube movies.
joe rogan
I bet you can buy Kill Bill.
Can't you?
jamie vernon
It's technically different though.
They're not going to be serving ads in the middle of Kill Bill.
It's really them serving.
It's the computer program they're using that serves whatever they think the algorithm wants to feed you.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, it serves the best interest of advertising revenue.
That's what it is.
They're worried about advertisers not wanting to be associated with something that's crazy.
It's their prerogative.
But I think it's a mistake.
I think when things are popular and things are good, you should advertise on them.
It's like, come on, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
I think it'll sort itself out.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, Kill Tony's just too big now.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you guys sold out a fucking arena for New Year's and it started a second show.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So there's a second arena on for sale.
brian redban
How stupid is that?
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
It's going to be 15,000 people watching a live podcast in Austin.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
And then Tony's like, nah, they'll come to us.
He's right.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's right.
And it works.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a cool thing happening here right now, man.
And Kill Tony is a giant cornerstone of it.
Your show is the cornerstone of...
And I was telling Tony this last night when we were having dinner together.
It's like it's the cornerstone of the comedy community for Austin and I think for the whole country because it teaches young comics to just be funny.
Just be funny.
Find your voice up there, but the most important thing is you got to be funny.
You only have one minute.
You can't virtue signal.
You can't talk about your victimhood.
No one wants to hear it.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You have one minute to be funny.
That's the art form.
brian redban
The meat of the joke.
joe rogan
Yeah, and if you eventually develop a following, you develop an act, and in your act you have layers and all kinds of different stories, that's great, too.
And that's a lot what YouTube's for.
And there's a lot of great comics like Ali Sadiq.
His whole act is these stories.
brian redban
I love Ali Sadiq.
joe rogan
He's so good.
And he can turn over an hour like nobody.
Because his stories are so good.
He's got so many of them.
But when he does that, that's not going to work on Kill Tony.
That's a different kind of act.
But it's still along the same vein.
He's funny.
And if he had to condense it to one minute, 100% he could do that.
That's what it teaches comics.
To be funny.
Just be funny.
brian redban
Yeah, because a big majority of people can't even do a minute.
They can't even get one joke out in a minute.
Most people.
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard.
It's fucking hard.
Especially if you're not good at editing.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're one of those guys doing open mic nights and you don't know how sloppy your stuff is and how much fat is in it.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
People, it's a difficult skill to learn how to condense a joke into, you know, I really learned it from Joey.
I think Joey's the best at it.
Because Joey's set up punchline, bam!
It's always so electric.
Like when Joey's killing, it's always the punchline sneak in before you ever see him comment and you're fucking crying.
He's the best at that.
He really enforced this idea that I was already aware of, which is the economy of words.
Like, you say it with the least amount of words possible in the best way possible.
Thank you.
Except sometimes.
Sometimes you have to explain things.
Sometimes you have to take the people on a little journey.
brian redban
Well, that's also a different kind of form.
I like going into a nice story.
Sure, it's edited down and it's not as long as it used to be, but I like that sometimes.
joe rogan
Well, that's where Ari's show was so good.
This Is Not Happening, when he was doing that.
I remember when he started that.
We were all hanging out and he said, I'm going to do a storyteller show.
It's a good way to develop material.
That is a good way to develop material.
People know you're just going to tell stories.
Because if you try to tell a story on stage, there's this expectation of constant punchlines.
So he figured out how to tell funny stories.
And we all sort of joined in on that.
Remember we used to do the lab at the improv?
That little room?
Which was the perfect place for it.
They should have never got rid of that little room.
brian redban
I thought it's still there.
unidentified
No.
brian redban
Now it's a bar.
joe rogan
No, there's the bar in that little room in front of the bar, which is hot death.
Everybody eats a dick in that bar.
brian redban
That's the worst room.
I hate that room.
joe rogan
That room is just something about...
Meanwhile, the other room was amazing.
It's crazy how just the setup of a room...
Changes everything.
If you have a room where it's fully contained, you don't have to constantly hear the door opening, you don't have constantly people shuffling through, getting to the other room, which is what that room has.
And then the bathroom is right around the corner, which mixes with the green room area.
All that chaos, there's too much chaos in that room.
It's not set up.
It's a curtain there.
Get the fuck out of here.
Go back to what you had.
You had a door when you went into a whole new room, and that whole new room had a small stage, and everybody was packed in tight, and it was magic.
brian redban
Yeah, they screwed that up a lot.
Remember the mural?
At least they got rid of that.
joe rogan
How many times did we have to give them a hard time about it, though?
brian redban
It took a while.
joe rogan
We were constantly goofing on.
brian redban
Everyone looked like dolphins.
Yeah, who's that?
joe rogan
That's Richard Pryor.
No, it's not.
Like, there was so many people on that wall that was just like, what are you looking at?
brian redban
I'm kind of scared to go to the Ice House because, you know, that was such a beautiful...
Both of those stages were pretty beautiful.
And all the photos I see now, it looks like you're at a, I don't know, a sports game or something.
joe rogan
It's supposed to still be really good, though.
Everybody I know that's worked has said the room is still pretty good.
I mean, not pretty good, really good.
It's still a great space, you know?
They did kind of jazz it up a little bit and clean it up, which is like the last thing I would have ever done to that place.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I would have left everything exactly the way it was.
Made some improvements.
You could make some improvements and not change the...
Because that room was magic.
That room was so good that agents wouldn't accept a tape from there.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Like if someone did a set from there, they're like, no, I need to see you at another club.
brian redban
Right.
Because it was a cheat code.
Everyone killed there.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Why is that?
brian redban
Because it was like a road show.
Especially when you lived in LA, you're so used to these horrible audiences where half of it was managers and Hollywood staff and people in the industry.
So when you would go there, none of those people ever drove over there.
So it felt like, oh, this is like I'm on the road.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was like the road, right?
They were appreciative.
And it was fun.
And they were just regular people.
Yeah, they weren't like industry adjacent.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, how many people when you go to the comedy store on a regular night just like...
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Actors and producers and...
brian redban
Agent show.
It's an agent show.
joe rogan
I remember there was this lady in the front room.
She turned out to be some executive for one of the networks.
And she was like stopping the comics from saying things.
Don't say that.
Stop saying that.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
She was drunk.
And then we found out she was an executive.
unidentified
Hilarious.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you doing?
Interrupting art.
brian redban
Oh, God.
joe rogan
You shouldn't even be here.
This isn't even what you're involved in.
You think you have that carte blanche just because you're sort of connected to comedy somehow?
Because occasionally your network hires comedians for sitcoms?
Like, get out of here.
The fuck out of here.
But that was the mentality that those people had.
Like, they could just tell you what to do and what to say.
They were used to telling people what to do.
They thought they could just stop comedy.
You know, it was so annoying.
There's so many arms crossed.
So many people in that crowd, they didn't go there to have a good time.
A lot of them went there and they were upset that they weren't on stage.
There's a lot of that.
Just that fucking weirdness of Hollywood.
But it also made for a great place to practice, too, because if your shit worked there, you'd work anywhere.
If you could kill the store in the OR, that was a legit set.
brian redban
I saw Doug Stanhope at Skankfest the other day.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
brian redban
He drank his own piss on stage.
unidentified
Oh, what a good move.
joe rogan
Definitely a good substitute for writing.
brian redban
Have you seen the preview for his movie, his new movie?
It looks so good.
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen it.
brian redban
It's called, like, On the Road or something.
joe rogan
Is it a documentary?
brian redban
No, it's a movie made by somebody famous, and it's about being on the road.
joe rogan
Okay, I have to pee.
I want to come back and watch the trailer.
unidentified
Cool.
joe rogan
All right, right back.
We're back.
Hi everybody.
brian redban
The movie's called Road Dogs and Jamie said it actually won some awards.
joe rogan
Oh shit.
brian redban
The Road Dog.
joe rogan
Is this about comics?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Greg Fitzsimmons is in it.
brian redban
You should watch the trailer.
It's like, whoa, Doug.
Okay.
joe rogan
Press, let's go.
unidentified
Why is that up?
joe rogan
Is this it?
unidentified
You ready for your headliner?
brian redban
He's been doing it for over 30 years.
unidentified
Please welcome the Road Dog, Jimmy Quinn!
My name's Jimmy, and I'm an alcoholic.
How you feeling, Jimmy?
You look a little worn out.
joe rogan
I'm a road comic.
I am worn out.
unidentified
No way!
I'm not the maid.
I'm your son.
Can I take it to lunch?
joe rogan
Give me a minute.
unidentified
I'm sure I'm not what you expected.
You're exactly what I expected.
Imagine you want to be a comedian.
Maybe it's genetic.
Let's stop down med school.
Hold your applause.
It's funny.
Let's say we spend a little bit more time together.
We'll have some goofs.
I'm afraid you won't be receiving any money, but I will pray for you.
You got a nice kid there.
Certainly thinks highly of you.
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't know me that well, Phil.
doug stanhope
I'm a little nervous because, uh, you know what you did to your last headlining act?
unidentified
I've been booking Jimmy 20 years.
His father's probably one of the funniest people I've been in my life.
But he has no discipline.
doug stanhope
Comedy's about pain.
unidentified
It's like he doesn't even care.
He's an addict.
Until he decides he wants to do it for himself, there's nothing you or anyone else can do it for him.
How come we never made on TV? TV isn't real comedy.
Real comedy's live, you know, in the moment.
I go on that stage, I'm the talent, I'm the writer, I'm the director.
If the customer doesn't like it, I tell the customer to go.
Who is in the car?
joe rogan
Oh, that's David.
unidentified
My son.
Top that for a living.
Remember me How I made you laugh Jesus, I'm depressed already.
brian redban
I know, right?
And to think Doug Stanup had sex to have a kid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Old Douglas.
It was great having him at the club.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was there early on.
One of the first ones we did.
Came down.
Checked it out.
Just cool having him around.
I love that guy.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Such an original human.
He's such uniquely Doug.
I mean, he is who he is.
brian redban
Absolutely.
And his girl.
unidentified
Bingo.
brian redban
And his manager.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole thing.
brian redban
The whole crew.
joe rogan
Chaos crew.
Funny people, man.
Is he still doing his podcast?
brian redban
I believe so.
I know his place caught on fire, so I'm not sure if that was a part of it or not.
joe rogan
Bro, we've been doing this since 2009. Isn't it crazy?
The beginning when we first started doing it, everybody's like, what the fuck are you doing?
brian redban
We actually did it even more before that, too.
Just, you know, back in the Justin TV days.
joe rogan
We tried a few different versions of something.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where we'd fuck around in the green room.
We tried a few different versions of, like, this idea that we could just stream stuff and have fun.
But that's, I think, why it worked.
Because it was all just fun.
Like, no one ever thought it was going to be a business.
brian redban
Yeah.
It was more just hanging out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Doing tech stuff in your office.
joe rogan
Having a good time.
Being silly.
You know?
We thought of a lot of versions of it.
I mean, before Twitch was a thing, you know...
Imagine a world where people would make a living just streaming video games online.
They just like playing video games.
Then all of a sudden this thing came along and now people make crazy money where people watch them play video games.
brian redban
Like what?
I watched four hours of a guy playing putter playing Grand Theft Auto role-playing last night.
joe rogan
I wonder how much different is that than me watching pool.
brian redban
It's probably the same.
joe rogan
Not much different.
Wouldn't it be better if you were playing?
Yes, definitely.
But there's a thing in watching people play stuff.
It's exciting.
Especially if you play that thing.
If you're watching Elon play Diablo, and you play Diablo, something's exciting about that.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
No one saw that coming either.
No one saw a podcast coming.
No one saw that coming.
There's a bunch of these things that no one saw coming.
brian redban
And I think the next thing is definitely that Zuck and Lex stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you've been doing VR for a long time.
You've been doing these fuck arounds.
brian redban
Yeah, it's just me playing video games pretty much.
But yeah, it's...
And you know, it's...
It's hard to communicate because it's 2D, you're watching me play on 2D, so it just looks like I'm playing a regular video game in a chat room or something.
So the idea of that, Lex and Zuck doing it, that kind of shows more like, hey, these people aren't together.
That's not them, you know?
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian redban
And I think once Apple also releases it, it's going to be a different world when it comes to that stuff, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so too.
And I think if everybody gets on, if it's as easy as getting on your phone, because it's not going to be in the beginning.
Not everybody's going to have that thing.
It might be one of those things that we look at like this, like 2023 to 2025 discontinued.
It might be, but it might eventually boil down to a pair of glasses that you wear.
Some cool looking glasses that allow you to do all this wild shit.
brian redban
You scan your face using your iPhone.
joe rogan
The thing is, like, where's the battery gonna be?
How much battery life is it gonna have?
brian redban
Well, that's the one thing that Apple, I think, did wrong, is that this first generation of theirs, the battery, you're wearing it on your, like, belt.
joe rogan
Which is what everybody loves.
brian redban
Yeah, I mean, you know Steve Jobs would never have allowed that.
No way.
Never!
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
He probably would have said, we can't do it yet.
brian redban
No.
Or just, I mean, put the battery in the back.
joe rogan
Yeah, even that is not gonna work.
It needs to be big.
That battery is like a brick.
I mean you're carrying around essentially like a tablet.
Like how big is the battery?
brian redban
It's about the size, it's like bigger than an iPhone.
It's about the size of an iPhone but a little thicker.
joe rogan
It's kind of heavy, right?
It's got to be all batteries.
brian redban
Yeah, but it's only like two hours, three hour battery pack too though.
joe rogan
They probably wanted to give you a backpack.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then again, like, what is going on with having that electronic strapped to you?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Like, is that good for you?
That's what it looks like.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that thing sits in your pocket?
brian redban
Yeah.
Or your belt.
Yeah.
And the cool thing, though, is that you can just...
It's MagSafe, you know?
So they want you to buy multiple ones.
joe rogan
Right.
brian redban
So you can't take it off.
And I think there's an internal battery that lasts a small...
joe rogan
So you can take it off without disconnecting and reconnect.
brian redban
Right, and then swap it.
So you're gonna have like 10 of those things.
joe rogan
Are you though?
brian redban
I mean, I'm going to.
joe rogan
There's gonna be a bunch of people that do do it.
It looks dope.
That lady in the upper corner, the Black World one, click the upper, yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, with the eyes.
That thing's the creepiest thing.
joe rogan
You're going to see people walking around like that.
brian redban
You're going to be jealous.
All like dead-eyed.
joe rogan
I could see 6th Street filled with people walking down the street like that.
brian redban
Heck yeah.
joe rogan
Because you're going to be able to get an Uber from that thing.
You're going to be able to order food from that thing.
Right?
brian redban
Yep.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
I like it.
I think it's going to be...
I think just because it's so unique and crazy, and especially the eye thing, I think people are going to be jealous when other people have it.
Because the first year, supposedly, they're not going to make that many of them to make it even more desirable.
joe rogan
And this is augmented reality, right?
So what are the features it's going to offer you that's going to make you walk down Congress?
brian redban
It's going to be VR and AR, but yeah, things like having stuff pop up, like maps and stuff, like go turn right here, or phone calls, or you'll be able to do FaceTime with people.
joe rogan
You think people are going to drive with that thing on?
jamie vernon
They originally didn't show anyone outside of their house, though, so...
brian redban
Right.
jamie vernon
That'll be another step.
Someone's going to have to make something that makes you take it out of your house and put it on, sort of.
joe rogan
Right.
It's got to be feasible that you can walk around with this thing on.
jamie vernon
And they're also not putting it on their shoulders to make that.
They're like, yeah, developers, go ahead and buy it and start thinking of cool shit.
Because we're not going to take that responsibility.
joe rogan
And then when you do have it, what's to stop you from watching a movie while you're driving?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, people are fucking stupid.
brian redban
It would be cool, though, to have that on while you're driving and kind of like what Tesla has, like the boxes around people, so it's like, watch out to the right.
joe rogan
Do you remember when people were playing Pokemon Go in their cars?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was real common.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I remember I was in my truck, so I was in my Lexus, the SUV, so I was looking down at this lady.
She was driving erratically.
And I'm like, this bitch is playing Pokemon.
She was playing Pokemon while she was driving.
So she had the Pokemon up and she was looking at that while she was driving.
brian redban
That was a weird week when that game came out.
I remember going to the comedy store.
Literally every single comic had their phone open playing it.
People on the sidewalk was all teamed up in a big group, like strangers just playing it.
Because I guess there was a fighting ring at the comedy store that everyone wanted to play.
And...
joe rogan
What happened?
Why did it die?
brian redban
The novelty kind of wore off of it, I think.
Just like everything.
After two weeks or so.
I'll still pull it out once in a while and play and see like oh what's around my house you know but you know what how many monthly players do you think they average It's still huge in Asia.
joe rogan
Let me say 50 million.
jamie vernon
78 over the last 30 days.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah, it's still huge in Asia.
joe rogan
But in America, I would love to see what the drop-off was.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where it was.
brian redban
I opened it up like a month ago, and there were still people playing around me, where I live in the middle of nowhere, so there's still people probably playing.
jamie vernon
It says there's still about a million people in America playing it.
joe rogan
That's only a million, though.
brian redban
Yeah, that's not much.
joe rogan
What was it at the peak?
It had to be crazy hot.
brian redban
Crazy, yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder what happened to those people.
They just woke up?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine, like, bro, we got this.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Imagine what they were thinking.
Dude, we got them.
They're hooked forever.
Forever.
This is going to be like every other game that people get addicted to.
And then everybody was just like, get the fuck out of here with this thing.
jamie vernon
There's three times as many people in the U.S. than Japan playing it.
brian redban
Really?
jamie vernon
According to this statistic.
joe rogan
Are we the number one?
brian redban
No, I think Korea, probably.
jamie vernon
I mean, it doesn't have...
Yeah, it has U.S. number one, Great Britain number two, Japan number three, Sweden and Canada, but they might be leaving out some...
joe rogan
So we're number one.
brian redban
Number one.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
America!
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
joe rogan
What is the number one country where video games are played?
Is it America?
brian redban
That or China.
Right?
I would think.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would imagine it would be...
I mean, I know that video game, like, those leagues are huge in Asia.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
You know?
Like, Korea.
StarCraft was the big one, right?
They used to have those giant tournaments.
brian redban
Yep.
Now it's, like, League of Legends.
jamie vernon
China won US 2 for video game players, I guess.
brian redban
Do you ever talk to...
jamie vernon
Players and revenue.
brian redban
Do you ever talk to...
Carmack anymore?
joe rogan
Yeah, occasionally.
Yeah, we were going back and forth on Twitter the other day.
brian redban
Remember when we went down to his office?
That was 17 years ago or something?
joe rogan
At least.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
At least.
Yeah, that was when they were developing Quake 3. Yeah.
Yeah, that was awesome.
To be able to play Quake with those guys in their own studios?
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
That was a dream.
joe rogan
Boy, that made you realize how much work is involved.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
In making a video game?
Like, whoa.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
That's work.
Like, you need a guy like Carmack who just sits there for 16 hours a day.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Just coding.
jamie vernon
Just a crazy stat.
I don't know if you remember.
I feel like I don't believe it.
joe rogan
Three out of four Americans play video games on various consoles with more than half playing on mobile phones.
You don't think that's true?
jamie vernon
I believe that.
I mean, I guess, like, is it for five minutes minimum per month or something like that?
joe rogan
U.S. trails China with over 244 million gamers.
China has 665 million gamers.
Woo!
It translated into $40.85 billion in revenue for 2020. Ukraine's like, that's not enough.
We need more.
Although the 2018 license freeze slowed down the YOY growth rate, the Chinese gaming market was still able to post a modest from $36.5 billion in 2019. A modest increase, I think it was supposed to say there.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Wow.
So three out of four Americans play video games.
You think that's too high, Jamin?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I mean, would you consider yourself a gamer even though you don't play now?
I mean, you were one, but...
joe rogan
No, I definitely wouldn't consider myself now.
I haven't played a game in years.
brian redban
Well, but I think my mom even opens up, like, crossword games or, like...
joe rogan
Subway Surfers.
unidentified
Subway Surfers is addictive, man.
brian redban
People love that.
Yeah, but, you know, there's, like, parent games, you know, like...
joe rogan
Yeah, those are video games.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I guess.
Chess.
brian redban
Chess.
joe rogan
You play chess on your phone.
Isn't that a video game?
brian redban
Yeah.
Or that Minesweep thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the ultimate one to play online.
Chess.
Because you can kind of get a game at any point in time with some wizard all over the world.
You guys can head fuck each other.
unidentified
This wild game that's been around for thousands of years.
brian redban
That poor guy.
joe rogan
Who?
brian redban
That chess champion and everyone thinks put a butt plug in his ass.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They think he cheated somehow and one of the ideas was anal beads.
brian redban
Yeah, vibrating anal beads.
joe rogan
My thought is, first of all, that guy, I think, has cheated before.
I think he kind of admitted that he did online.
But also plays really good chess.
He's a top-level chess player, too.
And I think a lot of those really ambitious guys, they cheated just to jack up their rating.
Right.
It's kind of a thing to have a very high rating.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
And then they always accuse each other of cheating.
brian redban
Of course.
joe rogan
Because you could cheat.
brian redban
How would you...
And why would you think he had like a vibrating butt plug in also?
All things.
See, that just...
joe rogan
It's a fun thing to say.
jamie vernon
Right.
joe rogan
It's like when they said Trump had hookers pee on him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a fun thing to say.
You know?
Who knows what's true?
But if I was gonna cheat at a chess match and I used vibrating anal beads...
jamie vernon
We don't know the answer.
They just reached an agreement and they're gonna not talk about it anymore, I guess.
joe rogan
So they settled a dispute over cheating claims at Rock Chess.
U.S. player had filed lawsuit against the former world champion.
Parties agreed to move forward after a series of allegations.
I think if you can't prove that he cheated, and it seems like they can't prove, they just suspected that he cheated.
Hans Niemann, a rising star in the chess world, filed a $100 million lawsuit against Magnus Carlsen.
The website chess.com and chess streamer Hikaru Nakamura, after allegations that he had cheated, the allegations began after Neiman beat Carlsen, widely considered one of the greatest players in history in a match, how do you say that word?
Sinkfield.
Sinkfield Cup last year.
The Norwegian implied that the then teenager had cheated.
A week later, Carlsen refused to play in an online game against the American, opting instead to resign.
Neiman has admitted to cheating online when he was 12 and 16, but insists he has never done so over the board.
He also promised to play naked to prove his innocence.
What about your butt?
That makes me suspicious.
After unfounded claims you may have used vibrating anal beads were amplified by Elon Musk.
brian redban
Elon, what are you doing?
joe rogan
Amplified.
That's a funny term.
Chess.com, which has millions of users around the world, concluded in a 72-page report released last October that Neiman had likely cheated in online matches between July 2015 and August 2020. Neiman denied those allegations.
The report did not find any evidence that Neiman had cheated in in-person matches.
So, a U.S. judge dismissed Neiman's suit in June on Monday.
Chess.com said the parties have agreed to move forward with no further threat of legal action.
Well, I guess that's good.
The thing is, it's hard to say because the guy's really good, too.
It's like he's a really good chess player as well.
It said, at this time, Hans has been fully reinstated at chess.com, and we look forward to his participation in our events.
We would also like to reaffirm that we stand by the findings in our October 2022 public report regarding Hans, including that we found no determinative evidence that he has cheated in any in-person games.
We all love chess and appreciate all of the passionate fans and community members who allow us to do what we do.
Okay, that's fair.
It makes it interesting.
Now people are paying attention to chess.
That's one good thing about it that people need to recognize.
Like, that was a lot of publicity for chess.
brian redban
It just seems like Idiocracy, you know, the movie Idiocracy, that now, before a chess match, there might be a choice where we have to put up a curtain, have a doctor look at each of the player's assholes before they can play a game of chess.
joe rogan
Maybe there's a thing you could swallow and it would vibrate inside of you.
brian redban
You could swallow.
I'm sure there's way more than that too.
joe rogan
You're talking about a lot of money.
I don't know how much money chess players make.
What's a big tournament in chess?
What's a grand prize?
Take a guess.
A million?
brian redban
No, I don't think it's...
joe rogan
A few hundred K? I think, okay, let's find out the biggest amount of money ever won in a chess tournament.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
I'd say it's a million.
brian redban
I'd say it's...
4.5 million.
joe rogan
That's probably right.
I'm probably under...
brian redban
But I think most chess matches...
Because there's no money in chess.
joe rogan
I think in other countries, people really value chess a lot more than they value it in America.
For some strange...
But we do value it as like, if you're good at chess, you have to be smart.
If someone says they're really good at chess, I'm like, oh.
brian redban
You immediately think they're smart.
joe rogan
They have to be smart.
It's like one game.
You could be really good at hockey and be a moron, I guess.
I would imagine.
I don't know.
I know a lot of people who play hockey are brilliant.
But it's possible that you could just be a goon.
Right?
And just like smash people and check into people and you're good at skating.
But if I talk to you about the world, I would imagine you don't have a nuance take.
But if you tell me that you're a chess grandmaster, I'm like, oh, that's a smart person.
That's an extraordinarily smart person, like universally smart.
Like, I don't think there's a single moron that's like a chess grandmaster.
I don't think it's possible.
You could be a moron and be, like, really good at some things.
brian redban
Checkers.
joe rogan
You could be a moron and have, like, a crazy fastball.
Like, that's all you do is you just fucking throw that ball so fast and accurate.
But you might be a moron.
It's possible.
You're probably brilliant.
I'm not saying that all pitchers are morons, but I think there's a possibility that you could be a moron.
Whereas if you're a chess grandmaster, there's zero possibility you're dumb.
Right?
brian redban
I would say so.
unidentified
Agreed?
brian redban
I would agree.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Don't you think, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
For sure.
joe rogan
So that's a unique game.
jamie vernon
So I have two answers, I guess, to two questions.
You said the biggest prize ever awarded is a little different than how they really do it.
But the biggest prize ever, I guess we could do a guess.
Would you like to guess?
It's the 1992. I said 4.5.
joe rogan
I said 1 million.
jamie vernon
So 5 million is the biggest match ever.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
Between two guys, Fisher and Spassky, so maybe Bobby Fisher.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jamie vernon
There are 27 different people that have won over a million dollars playing chess.
joe rogan
Okay, but there's 27 people that won over a million dollars playing pool.
Yeah.
brian redban
I would say the average is probably...
joe rogan
They make a quarter million dollars a year, the best guys.
jamie vernon
Kasparov is listed as the top overall at 17.2 million.
Another guy at 14.2.
joe rogan
Kasparov is an interesting guy.
Very vocal in his anti-Russian government talk on social media.
It's like...
I'd be fucking nervous if I was that dude.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
unidentified
I don't know if he lives there.
brian redban
There's certain things you don't talk about that.
Michael Jackson.
No, you don't have to talk about it.
No, I tweeted one thing about Michael Jackson once and I was getting attacked.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should read the comments.
The Michael Jackson one is crazy because there's like, most people think he did something wrong.
Most people.
And yet his music plays everywhere.
brian redban
Yep.
joe rogan
That's how good he is.
Or was.
brian redban
Yep.
joe rogan
And that's like the best cautionary tale as to how sideways you can go with fame.
Like, he went the most sideways that anybody ever went.
brian redban
It's really weird seeing him.
I watched some video of, you know, when they were asking him questions about things, you know, and the video made it look like he had a big hole in his nose.
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
Yeah, his nose had collapsed.
brian redban
That was a hole.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Okay, I thought it was just weird shadows.
I'm like, it looks like he has a...
joe rogan
No, I don't think it was.
I think this was all pre-Photoshop days.
Or videos, yeah.
I think he had skin grafts on his nose.
Because if you have too many nose surgeries, first of all, there's something that can happen where the tissue dies.
Like you cut into things too many times, the tissue dies.
brian redban
I have a wooden nostril.
joe rogan
I think he burned a hole through his.
brian redban
That's what he said.
He used to always say, I always wondered if that was real.
Like, is that just...
Is that possible?
joe rogan
The thing about Joey was everything was a crazy exaggeration that was funny.
That was like his style of comedy.
It's like, you know, everything was like 20. You know, he'd say something, just something ridiculous where you know it couldn't be possible and you had to laugh.
brian redban
Cartoon.
joe rogan
He's a cartoon.
He's the best.
I miss him.
brian redban
That's one person I really, really wish lived here.
joe rogan
Well, he's going to come visit.
You know, he did the mothership one night.
unidentified
He came by.
joe rogan
They went nuts.
Every time he goes anywhere, people go nuts.
But, you know, he's enjoying himself in New Jersey.
He likes New Jersey.
And when I went there with him, I get it.
I get it.
It's nice, relaxed.
He goes to these Italian restaurants.
They all know who he is.
Everybody knows him.
They're all nice.
Nice, normal people.
He likes it.
His kid likes it.
His wife likes it.
brian redban
It'd be cool to have Florentine as a neighbor, too.
I think that's...
joe rogan
I mean, he's gonna come down every now and again, hang out with us.
Also, you don't want him coming here in the summer and yelling at you.
brian redban
No, no.
joe rogan
The fuck is this Joe Rogan?
107 degrees.
brian redban
Yikes.
joe rogan
The fuck is 107 degrees?
brian redban
That was a little much this year, you know.
joe rogan
It was pretty extreme.
It's interesting.
It's like anybody who denies, like people want to deny climate change, don't do that.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Don't do that.
Listen, we can debate what impact human beings are having on it and what should be done about it, certainly.
But the idea that something's going on, like...
Are you looking at the weather?
brian redban
Are you paying attention?
joe rogan
It seems like it's really hot in the summer.
I mean, maybe that's just a streak and it's gonna go back to cool again.
Maybe not though.
The thing about it is, this is what no one wants to admit on either side of that, is that it never stays flat.
The climate always does this, before we were ever around.
It gets crazy hot, and then there's an ice age, and then the polar caps melt, and the fucking sea rises, and they find ancient civilizations underwater, because there used to be a town there, and all this pottery's there, because the people got drowned out because the ocean moved.
It's always changed.
It's always changed.
What we should be concentrating on more than anything, I think, is what we're doing to the ocean.
What we're doing to the ocean is crazy.
We've killed...
We tried to figure out how much it is.
It's hard.
They don't know what the real estimates are, but some people estimate it's like as high as 90% of the big fish in the ocean are missing.
Like, we just scooped them up with nets and fucking served them up in cans, in tuna cans, and in sushi, and we went ham!
And then we're throwing plastic in the ocean.
brian redban
Microplastics are now in rain.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's convenient if you want to get your microprostics in your diet.
If you're trying to disrupt your endocrine system, you don't have time to eat credit cards, just drink water.
It's in the rain.
Oh my god.
Of course it's in the rain.
It gets evaporated.
It's in the water.
It evaporates, goes in the sky.
brian redban
Did you read that new study?
Something shocking about one out of three women who drank Diet Coke during pregnancy had an autistic kid.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian redban
And they're now putting this connection to Diet Coke and Diet...
Is that real?
unidentified
Aspartame?
brian redban
It just came up.
When was this?
This was like two weeks ago I read this.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian redban
And...
That's scary because there is a lot more, I think, more autistic people or people in the spectrum than there used to be.
joe rogan
Study finds link between drinking some diet soda during pregnancy and autism in boys.
Oh boy.
So it says, a team of researchers said they have observed a link between autism diagnosis in boys and their mothers drinking at least one diet soda daily or consuming the equivalent amount of the sweetener aspartame during pregnancy or while breastfeeding, according to new study.
In this study, the researcher at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio asked the parents of 235 children with an autism spectrum disorder and 121 children without autism, who were the study's controls, to complete a retrospective questionnaire about their diet soda and aspartame intake while pregnant or breastfeeding their children.
Researchers asked biological mothers, while you were pregnant or breastfeeding your child, how often did you drink diet drinks?
Containing artificial sweeteners.
Please count diet sodas first, such as Diet Coke, Diet Dr. Pepper, and Diet Sprite, and then other diet drinks such as Citrus Light, Sugar-Free Kool-Aid, Slim Fast, and other light drinks.
Note, not all the diet beverages contain aspartame.
The researchers did not ask women to only think about aspartame containing diet beverages they consume while pregnant or breastfeeding.
However, all drinks listed in the survey's examples do contain aspartame.
Team found that boys with autism had more than three times the likelihood of having a mother who drank diet soda daily while pregnant or breastfeeding than boys without autism, per the findings published in the peer-reviewed journal Nutrients.
Whoa.
The researchers did not find a statistically significant association with girls.
That's interesting.
Why it's more difficult to diagnose girls with autism than boys.
These associations do not prove causality.
That's a different link.
But taken in concert with reports from earlier studies of increased prematurity and cardiometabolic health impacts among infants and children exposed daily to diet beverages, holy shit, or aspartame during pregnancy, our findings raise new questions about the potential neurological impacts that need to be addressed.
Didn't that shit get pushed through?
Didn't aspartame get pushed through?
By, um, who's that fucking, the military guy?
What the fuck's his name?
brian redban
Oliver, no.
joe rogan
No, it's at the tip of my tongue.
The guy who was on the, the guy who was talking about the Pentagon missing a trillion dollars, remember that guy?
Donald Rumsfeld.
Didn't Donald Rumsfeld have something to do with aspartame?
brian redban
I think you're onto something, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think, see, Donald Rumsfeld, Google Donald Rumsfeld pushed through aspartame.
Did he?
unidentified
Hold on, I'm trying to see.
joe rogan
I think there were some shenanigans involved in aspartame.
And this is coming from someone who consumes it all the time.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, aspartame is poison, pretty much, right?
joe rogan
But is it poison like alcohol, where it's okay, but it's not okay when you're breastfeeding?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you could have a few glasses of wine if you're not breastfeeding, right?
You can get a little tipsy and you're gonna be okay.
You could have a few tequilas and have a hangover the next day.
Yeah, yeah, you drank something you shouldn't have drank, but it's not gonna fuck you up that bad.
But if you are pregnant, you're kicking that fetal alcohol syndrome.
I think there's a difference between saying that something is dangerous and saying something is dangerous while someone's pregnant.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Because, like, Elon was talking about, like, how much Diet Coke he drinks.
If that guy's drinking Diet Coke, I am not that worried.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Seems pretty fucking smart.
jamie vernon
So, there's a story here.
It says Donna Rumsfeld was involved with a company called, I think, Cyril, it said here.
He was the CEO at Cyril.
He received a $12 million bonus in 1985 when the company was absorbed by Monsanto.
Right here, then, I had to go back.
It says that he was involved with picking the new head of the FDA, or the FDA commissioner.
And that guy had no previous history in artificial sweeteners.
He had no previous experience with food additives before being appointed director of the FDA. Interesting.
joe rogan
So Hayes, Reagan's new FDA commissioner, appointed a five-person scientific commission to review the Board of Inquiry's decision.
It soon became clear the panel would uphold the ban by a three-to-two decision.
So Hayes installed a sixth member on the commission, and the vote became deadlocked.
He then personally broke the tie in Aspartame's favor.
Whoa, Chanel.
Shenanigans.
One of Hayes' first official acts as FDA chief was to approve the use of aspartame as an artificial sweetener in dry goods on July 18, 1981. In order to accomplish this feat, Hayes had to overlook the The scuttled grand jury testimony of Cyril, I don't know who that is, overcome the Bressler Report and ignore the PBOI's recommendations and pretend aspartame did not chronically sicken and kill thousands of lab animals.
What?
brian redban
How many of them had...
joe rogan
Oh my god, how much have I taken?
Hayes left his post at the FDA in November of 1983 amid accusations that he was accepting corporate gifts for political favors.
That's crazy.
He wouldn't do that.
Just because leaving office, just before leaving office in scandal, Hayes approved of the use of aspartame in beverages.
After Hayes left the FDA under allegations of impropriety, he served briefly as provost at New York Medical College and then took a position as a high-paid senior medical advisor with Bernson Marsteller, the chief public relations firm for both Monsanto and G.D. Searle.
Since that time, he's never spoken publicly about aspartame.
FYI, here's Rachel Maddow on Brunson Marsteller.
When evil needs public relations, evil has Burson Marsteller on speed dial.
Evil thy name is chemical food additives.
Okay.
Here's the kicker.
When Searle was absorbed by Monsanto in 1985, Donald Rumsfeld reportedly received a $12 million bonus.
There it is.
Yeah.
So I think though, what I think I've seen Layne Norton talk about is that the amount of aspartame that killed lab rats was preposterous.
Like that a human being couldn't even consume that amount.
That it would have to be something like I forget the number, but some preposterous number.
Like you'd have to drink 1800 Diet Cokes a day or something like that.
Something really nutty to get the amount that was sickening and killing these lab rats.
brian redban
Well, how many of these rats had autism though?
joe rogan
How many of these rats with pussies?
Couldn't take a little Diet Coke.
brian redban
Autistic rats everywhere.
Millions of them.
joe rogan
You know, there's the other thing that Brett Weinstein has brought up.
These lab mice and lab rats, like, they're bred for that purpose.
And so, like, they don't live long.
Like, it's not a good way to study long-term effects.
And it's also, like, these are things that are literally bred to take fucking chemicals and have experiments run on them.
The idea that these are just like normal mammals seems a little far-fetched because you're actually literally breeding them for testing things on them.
brian redban
They should just grab them from New York.
The New York rats?
joe rogan
Bro.
What a living hell.
To be an organism that just exists so that you can test potential toxins and poisons on human beings And so your very life only exists to make the intelligent life forms think that they can live longer and better with your medication.
And we all agree to it.
We're all like, yep, good way to do it.
Practice on rats.
Practice on monkeys.
brian redban
Yeah, that's the most fucked up shit.
joe rogan
The monkey one is wild.
The monkey one's wild because they're sort of like us.
They're sort of like they can think and they react and they're grabbing things and you're sitting there with fucking rods in your head and they're alive.
Monkey one's wild because like it's something like there's like levels of things were allowed to kill like if someone kills a bug no one freaks out like I remember when I lived When I lived in Colorado, I went to this Buddhist ashram that was in my neighborhood Just kind of in the neighborhood seeing what they're doing And they actually had places they would rent out there, like houses that they had for rent.
So there's people I knew that wanted to live up there and they wanted to rent a place.
And the lady who had the ashram was spraying bug killer on ants.
She had an ant problem.
And I go, you poison the ants?
She's like, well, you know, it's really not what we want to do.
I go, but you're a Buddhist.
You just committed mass murder for your convenience.
Like, if we think that every life form is a life form, if we think that one equals one, you know, like one roach that dies or one mouse that gets run over by a combine in a field where they're trying to cultivate wheat.
One is one.
If that's the case, you can't be spraying bug spray on ants.
But we don't think that.
Even vegans get hit by a mosquito, they slap that motherfucker.
They kill that bitch.
Everybody kills mosquitoes.
Fuck you.
I'm not going to be itchy for your life.
unidentified
No one says, just take from me what you need.
joe rogan
The only reason why you're doing is because you're needy.
Please take from me and make me itchy.
Nobody does that.
Everybody swats.
You find a tick, you pull that fucker off of you.
Oh my god, this tick, you kill it.
unidentified
You know, go get it, let it go so it can give Lyme disease to other folks and other animals.
joe rogan
Now you kill that little cocksucker, little blood sucking piece of shit.
You find a leech on you, you know, a little leech, do what you must.
Take from me what you must.
No, you peel that bitch off.
If you have to rip it in half, you rip it in half.
But when it gets to like things with fur, then we go, oh, what are you doing?
That thing has hair.
That thing has hair on it.
That's why people freak out way more over, like, if you have a picture with a dead deer versus a picture with a fish.
Nobody gives a shit if you catch a fish.
You can hold up a bass like David Lucas.
He has no hate.
Nice bass, David.
You know?
David's a bass-fishing motherfucker.
He's good at it.
He knows what he's doing.
He catches some nice bass.
But, like, nobody gets mad.
But if David was, like, holding up a deer he shot, people would...
Because it's got fur.
brian redban
Except turtles and dolphins.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't kill turtles.
brian redban
I saw a video of somebody killing a turtle to eat it, though.
Turtle soup?
Yeah.
And that was one of the worst things I've ever seen.
If you think about this turtle, how old is he?
Probably like 100 years old, and he's...
He survived so much and now he just got picked by a fisherman.
joe rogan
I don't think those are the ones that live to be 100 years old.
I think those are sea turtles.
Those regular turtles they make soup out of?
That bitch has been around for a couple weeks.
brian redban
Oh really?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brian redban
I used to have pet turtles.
joe rogan
I used to have pet piranhas and pet turtles.
And the pet turtles were way more ferocious.
brian redban
Where are they?
joe rogan
Ferocious.
We feed them goldfish, and they just swim over those goldfish and grab them with their little paws and just chomp into them.
It's like, whoa, they're ferocious.
They're little dinosaurs.
Turtles are fucking cool to have in an aquarium.
There's a lot of, like, risks of diseases and shit.
brian redban
Rarely on turtles?
joe rogan
Yeah, if you touch them, you have to really make sure you wash your hands.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, you can catch some funky shit.
And especially, look, they're shitting in this tank.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
And then how often are you cleaning that water?
I mean, it's filtering.
But how much is it filtering?
How much are they shitting?
They're in there eating goldfish all the time.
They're probably shitting up a storm.
And they're big, right?
They're, like, this big.
You know, like a...
jamie vernon
I didn't even know this was a thing.
joe rogan
They eat blueberries?
jamie vernon
No, turtle ASMR. Oh, I've seen this before.
brian redban
It's great.
joe rogan
Bro, that is an ancient being.
I mean, that is essentially like what we would have seen during the dinosaur era.
Exactly what we expect.
Like a stegosaurus looked like.
brian redban
Yeah.
Sonny was the one that made...
Remember Sonny you had on your show?
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
brian redban
He's the one that has the video about eating the turtle, and he said it was the first time that him and his wife both were like, should we even release this?
Oh, really?
It was the one thing that affected him the most, though.
joe rogan
Why?
brian redban
There's something about turtles, man.
When you see this video, you can probably take a peek of it, but the turtle is so fucking sad, man.
joe rogan
That's a big-ass turtle.
So that is one of those turtles.
That's one of those sea turtles.
brian redban
Yeah, when they show his face and they just have it like...
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
brian redban
Yeah, it is.
Look at that.
Look at this pork.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's rough.
brian redban
Dude, it's just fucked up, man.
I got so emotional about this video.
I mean, just look at his little face.
joe rogan
Are they gonna eat this thing?
brian redban
Oh, they just start smashing it.
joe rogan
And so this is a thing they do all the time?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, so the thing is still alive while they're killing it.
brian redban
Yep.
It's horrible.
joe rogan
Oh man.
You know there's a thing too about them having armor, so they kind of most of the time are protected, that we kind of realize how vulnerable they are when a person gets them.
Like, oh no, he's gonna get you now.
Like your whole life you've had an awesome protection provided to you by nature.
brian redban
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Oh, he's doing it while it's still alive.
Why doesn't he kill it first?
brian redban
I think they smashed its head in or something.
joe rogan
Dude, it's moving still.
brian redban
Oh god, I don't want to watch.
I stopped watching this part.
joe rogan
It seemed like when he was cutting into it, its legs were moving.
Okay, it's dead by then, right?
Bro, that's rough.
Why is it so rough?
How old is a sea turtle when it's that big?
brian redban
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
And they're just gonna eat it.
brian redban
Yeah, he talks about how emotional he's getting in at this party.
joe rogan
Ooh, did he try it?
brian redban
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Oh boy, I guess you have to.
I mean, they already killed it.
brian redban
Right.
And I guess the reason they're allowed to do it is because it's their religion or something like that.
joe rogan
Part of the native traditions.
It's like the reason why people like the Inuit are allowed to hunt seals and Right.
Whales and shit.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting?
Like, there's animals that we're not...
No one's allowed to hunt, but they can hunt them.
And then, like, Bourdain did a show once where he went to this family's house, and they killed a seal, and then they brought it home in the kitchen floor.
They laid it out and butchered it in the kitchen floor, and they were all just eating raw seal on the kitchen floor.
Like, wow.
And again...
Modern times, normal time, like right now.
They're probably doing that right now somewhere.
Someone has a seal and the whole family's excited that they got one and they're eating raw seal.
Like kids.
See if you can find that.
It's pretty fascinating because you're realizing like, well, if you lived up there, that's what you eat.
So here's the whole family.
So they're sitting around.
I don't know where they were.
So they got this seal that they're butchering right there, and people are just taking bites.
brian redban
Blood everywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they're eating the blood, they're eating everything.
Every little piece of nutritious meat that comes from that seal, they consume.
But the crazy thing is they're eating it raw.
Like, and he eats it raw, right there.
brian redban
Nah.
joe rogan
Can you give me some volume on this?
unidentified
Not actually eaten, per se.
More sucked and chewed to extract a tiny nubbit of meat from within the blubber and cartilage.
Oh, that is good.
It's like, it tastes like sea urchin rock.
And of course, and it was inevitable, really, wasn't it?
I'm offered the best part, the eyeball.
Oh, God.
And sucked out like a fat Concord grape.
Oh.
I'll spill it with you.
This is an act of pure generosity and kindness to an honored guest.
Oh.
Break it like this.
Okay.
brian redban
Cannibals.
unidentified
Cannibals.
joe rogan
You gotta cut it in the middle.
Look how she has that like blubber knife.
unidentified
Has a blood-smeared face and gore-covered hands ever looked so benevolent, so kind of sweet?
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
I miss that dude.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a real part of some people's lives.
Would you want to live in a world where everything goes Mad Max?
Or would you want to get jacked?
brian redban
Jacked?
joe rogan
Like a missile to hit your house?
brian redban
Probably jacked.
I'd have to get some guns and stuff.
unidentified
It's not even just that.
joe rogan
It's like, what is life like?
But people have done that.
That's why we're here.
We're here because people didn't pack it in.
This is the kind of shit that keeps me up at night.
brian redban
Yeah, I would definitely...
We would have the whole family get together and we would all shit each other or something at the same time.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ, Brian.
That'd be like that scene in The Mist where the guy shoots his whole family and then the military arrives and he realizes he would have been safe.
brian redban
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good Stephen King book.
That book is creepy.
They did a good job with the movie.
The latest, I think there's been more than one, The Mists.
Have there been one?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
No, maybe not.
You know what I saw recently?
It said it was from 2022, but I don't think that's correct.
There was a Salem's Lot with Rob Lowe.
brian redban
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
When was that?
brian redban
My girlfriend saw it.
joe rogan
Okay, that makes sense.
Because it said 2022. It might have got put on a streaming service or something.
Right.
I think it was on Apple.
jamie vernon
Let me see, but I did just see that when I was typing it in.
But yeah, 2004, I think it was a TV miniseries.
brian redban
I kind of remember.
joe rogan
And it was a miniseries long before that, too.
brian redban
Let's see, 2023. Stephen King's TV shows are always so fun to watch, though.
They're not as good as the movies.
joe rogan
No.
Salem's Lot.
2023. 2023?
Oh, there's a new one they're working on.
unidentified
There's also a Return to Salem slot in 87. Bro, we never get tired of vampires.
joe rogan
You know what I saw that's good?
The Last Voyage of the Demeter.
Yeah, it's a vampire movie.
It's about Dracula's coffin getting transported across the ocean on a boat.
brian redban
Cool.
joe rogan
It's pretty fun.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's stupid, but it's fun.
It's a good vampire movie, a good CGI Dracula vampire movie.
brian redban
Did you see the new Black Spider-Man?
joe rogan
There's a new Spider-Man?
brian redban
What, I mean the second one?
joe rogan
You mean the cartoon one?
Yeah.
No, I haven't seen it yet.
brian redban
Oh my god, dude.
joe rogan
Is it awesome?
The first one was amazing.
brian redban
It almost made me cry how good it was.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
It's way better.
I mean, I thought it was better than the first one.
And how it ends.
joe rogan
I haven't seen it.
Yeah, the first one was awesome.
Because you can do shit with animation that you just can't do any other way.
brian redban
It is probably my favorite.
Those two movies are probably my two top favorite movies of all time, I think.
joe rogan
Well, it's such a good superhero movie because it's so comic book-like.
Okay, Salem's Lot 2023. Warner Brothers has never announced another release date for the film.
It says, August 24, 2022, Warner Brothers announced that Salem's Lot was losing its April 21, 2023 release date to Evil Dead Rise in a week.
That will have been exactly one year ago, and yet Warner Brothers has never announced another release date for the film.
jamie vernon
I was trying to see where it was.
I don't think it came out.
brian redban
Is there somebody that got cancelled in the cast?
unidentified
I have no idea.
jamie vernon
I wasn't saying.
joe rogan
Maybe they wanted to reshoot shit.
jamie vernon
The actual release during COVID and I don't think that they put it on.
brian redban
Yeah, maybe it sucks.
joe rogan
Sometimes they'll get to the end of a film being made and they're like, this movie sucks.
We have to do something.
brian redban
We're going to lose money even putting this out.
joe rogan
They've done that before, right?
brian redban
Oh yeah, tons of times.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a...
Bro, imagine that business.
You're hoping these guys get this together and put together something you can watch.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
No release?
joe rogan
No release.
Unless you've got a guy like James Cameron that always knocks it out of the park.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much money are involved in those fucking movies?
That's kind of crazy that it's not announced at all.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I forget what it was, but there was a comparison on that, that a bunch of these new horror movies they're making, the budgets aren't super high, because there's not a lot of people that don't have to pay a big cast, so they can make them for a lot less, and they're making fuckloads of money at the theater every weekend.
You go spend $100 million on a big movie, and no one sees it.
joe rogan
If you do a movie like a superhero movie, you can kind of have anybody play it.
As long as you have the real superhero.
Like if it's Spider-Man.
You got a new Spider-Man.
You can get some good guy that no one's ever heard of and you'll buy him a Spider-Man if he's good.
brian redban
Yeah.
I like the newest Spider-Man guy.
He's my favorite one.
joe rogan
They're all good, but it's crazy how many there have been.
Like when they have that one multiverse with Doctor Strange, you see all the Spider-Mans.
unidentified
What's the explanation for this again?
joe rogan
But there's certain things that we will 100% watch every time, and that's Spider-Man.
That's one of them.
The Hulk is another one.
Every time they make a new Hulk movie, we're in.
Star Wars.
Eric Bana was the first one, right?
brian redban
Yep, Bana.
joe rogan
And then there was Ed Norton.
He was the Hulk.
And then Mark Ruffalo.
I think Mark Ruffalo is the best one.
He's the one I most believe is a super genius that becomes psychotic when he gets mad.
brian redban
You know?
joe rogan
He's got that troubled genius thing down.
It's nice.
I buy it.
But he's gonna quit now.
He's not gonna be the Hulk.
So they need a new Hulk.
Who?
Tony.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
brian redban
I'm number one!
joe rogan
Yeah, who's going to be the new Hulk?
But someone will do it, and you'll buy into it, 100%, as long as it's a good Hulk movie.
The good Hulk origin story.
You know what I'm amazed that they never did anything with?
The Watchmen.
brian redban
Yeah, they did, but they...
joe rogan
They did the TV show, but the TV show was not the same.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
They had that one fucking amazing movie.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
It's one of the best superhero movies ever.
Anti-superhero movie.
They're all terrible.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
And it's just like murder and chaos, and it's a crazy fucking movie, man.
Like, you'd have a really hard time making The Watchmen today.
brian redban
I don't know, because, I mean, look at Deadpool.
Deadpool is pretty, like...
joe rogan
Not as much as the Watchmen.
The Watchmen, they're all evil.
Everyone's a bad guy.
A lot of people, their superheroes are evil, and they kill a lot of people.
And then you see his big blue dick.
You see Dr. Manhattan's big blue dick.
You wouldn't be able to show a big blue dick today.
People would get mad.
brian redban
That was such a weird thing.
It was such a weird thing.
joe rogan
Super muscular, ripped guy who's floating around with a glow around him with a giant hog.
Pull that up, Jamie.
Pull up Dr. Manhattan's giant dick.
Oh, what?
They put him a G-string now?
Come on.
That was part of the thing, that he could just show you his dick and you still had to listen.
Because he was Dr. Manhattan.
He was literally a god.
So that one, you see his hog.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy, though, that we had decided that that's not good.
You couldn't have that.
Also kind of crazy that he had sexual relationships with human beings after that, right?
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Look at that one with his little bikini shorts on.
The circle.
Why are you doing that?
Why are you hiding his cock?
You know what it is?
brian redban
That's a wallpaper for your iPhone.
joe rogan
The problem with the one that they had that was on Amazon or whatever it was, was that the dude who played Dr. Manhattan was just a regular dude.
He wasn't jacked enough.
Like, you have to be preposterous.
And you have to look like that guy with a suit on.
See?
That's the guy that they had in the Amazon show.
Like, eh, sorry buddy.
brian redban
I don't like his forehead.
joe rogan
Eh.
Who cares?
He looks like a regular guy.
He looks like a guy who does CrossFit.
But then, Dr. Manhattan looks like a god.
brian redban
Yeah, he looks a badass.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's not a human being.
Like, you can't have him in a t-shirt.
You know, the other guy looked like a human, like a normal human who'd be teaching at SoulCycle.
brian redban
It says right there, John Cena teasing his rumored role.
Yeah, up a little more.
Right there.
Right there.
jamie vernon
I mean, this could have been from any time in the world.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, but that makes sense.
brian redban
He'd be so good.
joe rogan
He's built like Dr. Manhattan.
brian redban
Yep.
joe rogan
Literally.
That's what Dr. Manhattan's supposed to look like.
brian redban
Yep.
joe rogan
That's why you can't have a regular guy.
And you also gotta make him fucked up too.
You gotta make his eyes glow.
You gotta make his skin glow.
He's gotta look ridiculous.
Like he's not supposed to be there.
Like something from another realm.
You can't have a regular guy with a t-shirt on.
You're changing what it is.
Like you can't have the thing and now he's just got a little eczema.
brian redban
But do you think they should bring the dick back or have a fanny pack?
unidentified
Bring the dick back.
joe rogan
Let's go.
Let's fucking go.
Bring back Dr. Manhattan's cock.
If you can't handle it, you shouldn't be watching it.
Do you not know what the dick looks like?
You know what it looks like.
brian redban
It's so funny, though.
joe rogan
But why are we pretending you can't show that?
unidentified
It's so funny.
joe rogan
It's so weird.
We can't show that anymore.
Like, we can't show it now.
unidentified
Oh, they can.
joe rogan
But they wouldn't.
Here's the thing.
They did then.
Isn't that weird?
brian redban
That is weird.
joe rogan
That as time goes on, you would think people would relax more about that stuff.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I was going to bring this up before we were talking about porn theaters.
Do you know that when Deep Throat came out, regular people went to go see it like it was a movie?
Including Johnny Carson.
Johnny Carson was in line talking about the movie.
They interviewed him outside of a theater.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was the first time that they had made a pornographic movie and made it like a cinematic movie and tricked people into going and watching this like it's a real movie.
See if you can find that.
brian redban
I would love to see what Johnny said about it.
joe rogan
Oh, it was a wonderful film.
brian redban
Weird, wacky, wild.
joe rogan
Ed jerked off right in front of me.
jamie vernon
The wiki here, it says that it was like a thing for a minute.
The upper middle class people were going to see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, see?
The film's popularity helped launch a brief period of upper middle class interest in explicit pornography, referred to by Ralph Blumenthal of the New York Times as porno chic.
Several mainstream celebrities admitted to have seen Deep Throat, including Martin Scorsese, Brian De Palma, Truman Capote, Jack Nicholson, and Johnny Carson, Spiro Agnew, Frank Sinatra, Philip Dresman, and Louis Durfurt.
I don't know who those folks are.
Barbara Walters mentions having seen the film in her autobiography, audition, a memoir, and Jimmy McMillan, considered it to be his favorite film.
jamie vernon
Who the fuck is that guy?
joe rogan
Who's that guy?
That's my favorite movie.
He's an American political...
Go back to what that said before?
Oh, American political activist and Vietnam War veteran.
jamie vernon
He's the Ren is Too High guy.
joe rogan
He was a perennial candidate in New York City.
Oh, he's the Ren is Too High guy.
Oh, that guy's hilarious.
That guy was hilarious.
Okay.
He's just saying wild shit.
In 2006, a censored version of the film was released on DVD for fans of pop culture and those wishing to own a non-X-rated copy of the infamous movie.
Deep Throat was the first film to be inducted into the XRCO Hall of Fame.
What did you scroll up there, Jamie?
jamie vernon
The revenue.
joe rogan
Oh.
Estimates of the film's total revenues have varied widely.
Numbers as high as $600 million, equivalent to $4.2 billion today, have been cited, which would make Deep Throat one of the highest grossing films of all time, with an average ticket price of $5, which is $34.98 today.
Box office takings of $600 million would imply 120 million admissions, an unrealistic figure.
Although subsequent sales of the films on home video certainly brought additional revenue, the FBI's estimates that the film produced an income of approximately $100 million, which is $700 million today, may be closer to the truth.
jamie vernon
So it's worse case, they were doing research though, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, research.
Just doing research.
Isn't that wild though?
That like, that's how much culture can just shift and change on a whim.
People can just decide that like hardcore pornography, hey, let's go See a wacky film.
unidentified
Let's go watch someone suck a cock until they choke.
joe rogan
It's always a thing though, right?
Why can we see real violence in a film but we can't handle real sex?
Right?
You can see a film I mean, how many major films?
How many Tarantino films?
You see people get shot in the face.
Some of them are horrific.
Like, Hateful Eight.
Like, there's some scenes in that movie like, oh my god.
There's so many movies like that.
So many movies where you can see horrific violence.
But you can't have actual sex.
brian redban
Religion.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
brian redban
100%.
joe rogan
I think people freak out about watching people fuck.
They freak out about watching someone fuck on screen.
brian redban
Whores.
joe rogan
But it's just seeing actual intercourse, even between two people that love each other.
Nobody wants to see that.
You want it simulated.
They're in the bed together, but for some reason there's a sheet over them, and they're kissing, and she's wrapping her arms around her, and everything's close up, so you know what's going on, but you don't actually see it happening.
Whereas we don't do that with violence.
Like where a guy turns a corner, he points the gun, and you just see the gun go off, and then the guy's dead, and you know he's dead.
You don't have to see it.
No, you see it.
You see the guy get shot.
Isn't that interesting?
Kind of weird.
brian redban
I really think it's religion because, like, look at how many people, you know, don't have sex before marriage or, you know...
joe rogan
Very few.
brian redban
Very few.
Right, but all those people that are for or against, like, that kind of stuff still have no problem with violence and war, you know?
joe rogan
Well, not necessarily because there's a lot of atheists that are anti-pornography.
A lot of people think it exploits women.
There's, you know, some people that are making money off of it.
It's not the women.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
joe rogan
You take these people that are damaged and you...
You know expose them to the world in this weird vulnerable way and they don't know any better and there's a lot of thoughts about the people have about Pornography in general and people that are not religious.
So it's not that religion that pornography is not controversial to like a lot of people and It's just a weird thing where films are allowed to show certain things but not actual sex.
Even if you just CGI'd it.
What if you had these people and they wore green suits on and you would never show that.
Even if you know that that's fake sex, because the actors were not forced to have sex with each other, they faked it and then they used CGI to make it look like it was intercourse and you could see penetration.
Everybody would be like, what the fuck are you showing me?
brian redban
It's weird, right?
joe rogan
Well, meanwhile, pornography is like this massive part of the internet, like just a giant chunk of all the things that people are—all the internet traffic is pornography.
Do you remember that movie Brown Bunny?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
That was a Vincent Gallo movie where Vincent Gallo had an actual sex scene in the movie.
Yeah, what's that girl's name?
Chloe Shrevanjiji?
You know that girl?
Really good actress.
brian redban
How long ago was this?
joe rogan
Quite a while ago.
It was like, can I guess?
2002?
jamie vernon
I was looking at the history of obscenity rules and where this came from.
People, when they were first starting to make film, were trying to push the limits of it.
And this is one of the first ones, according to the thing I was just reading, that did it.
Like, 1897 I think this was made.
It's called Carmencita, I think.
It's a very short film of a woman dancing.
But what's the problem here is, like, you can see her ankles.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
jamie vernon
And that's obscene, apparently.
joe rogan
Wow, because she's spinning around.
She's wild.
jamie vernon
And you can see her dress is a little too short here.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
jamie vernon
It's not touching the ground.
joe rogan
Now, imagine showing them Lizzo.
They would go, what happened?
unidentified
Whap!
joe rogan
But yet, still, sex in movies is a no-no.
So what year was Brown Bunny?
brian redban
Does he fuck this bunny?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Does he start off with a white bunny?
joe rogan
I don't think I saw the film.
2003. 2003. I don't think I saw the film.
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
But I remember people went to see it and they were furious that there was like an actual blowjob scene.
brian redban
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
How'd they do that?
joe rogan
Actual blowjob.
unidentified
Like...
joe rogan
She actually...
brian redban
Stunt cock, stunt mouth?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
Nope.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Nope.
Real actor, real actress.
brian redban
That's a real actor right there.
joe rogan
But isn't it kind of crazy that when you're seeing something like...
Like, people do that.
People like that.
They do it all the time.
And you could pretend to see it in a film, like if she just started going down on him and you saw the back of her head and you just close up on his face, that's happened a million times in movies.
Nobody has a problem with that.
That's like, make you slightly uncomfortable, but at least you're not seeing it.
But to actually see it, people are like, THIS IS CROSSING A LINE! We're weird.
brian redban
Really weird.
joe rogan
We're so weird.
Humans are so weird.
If you were observing us, if you're from another planet, you're observing us like, why are they so comfortable with violence?
And they're so weird about sex when it comes to like seeing it.
brian redban
Well, it's also United States compared to other countries.
I mean, the other countries have tits on the news, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
England used to always have like a page of their newspaper that was like girls were topless.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's still very different than putting it in their films.
They've still had violent films, but they don't have actual sex.
Like, isn't that wild?
Kind of weird.
brian redban
Asia with pixelation, you know?
That's really weird.
Clinical porn.
joe rogan
What country is that?
Is it Japan?
Japan.
So Japan, you can't see pubes, and you can't see genitals.
brian redban
You can't see genitals, insertion.
joe rogan
Yeah, so everything's pixelated out.
brian redban
Right.
That's why tentacle porn came about because they could show insertion.
I think it's just penis.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is that where tentacle porn comes from?
brian redban
That's what I was always told.
It might be an urban legend, but I was always told.
joe rogan
How many times have you been told this?
brian redban
A lot of times.
joe rogan
Is that really what it is?
brian redban
I think so.
I think it had something to do with the censorship there because it wasn't a penis inserting.
I think it's just inserting.
joe rogan
Do they still have those censorship laws?
In Japan?
brian redban
I want to say yes.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
Because most of the porn doesn't come from Japan.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy, though, that you say, like, people get too wild to see it actually go in there?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You just show them most of it.
Don't show it.
That'll be the downfall of society.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Pixelate out the dicks.
unidentified
It's weird.
joe rogan
So strange.
It's so strange.
I remember the first time I saw that, I was like, what is that?
Why is there pixels?
brian redban
I thought somebody just uploaded it and did it.
joe rogan
I thought it was just edited to make it so you could put it on the internet.
What did you do?
brian redban
It's very weird.
joe rogan
Very strange.
unidentified
But I guess you could fake it that way.
joe rogan
You know, that's like we were talking about, like, the two actors.
If they wore green suits and you CGI'd, you could just fake the pixels.
You know, nobody has to know what's an actual dick.
She could just do a lot of that and he's limp and it's just pretend.
You know?
It's just what people allow and don't allow is so odd.
It's so odd.
You know, in some countries, I mean, just think about Sharia law, right?
Think about some countries where women have to be covered.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then in other countries, nothing.
brian redban
That's hot, though.
I always, you know, that's something you put in the search once in a while on Pornhub, you know, like girls wearing, like, the things.
joe rogan
I think that's very dangerous to even admit.
Can you imagine to make those films?
brian redban
Is what Duncan Trussell was telling you.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Imagine making those films.
That's a risk.
If you're a woman and you make one of those films, I'd imagine they are very mad at you.
brian redban
Yeah.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's also happening in 2023. What a wild time to be alive, sir.
brian redban
Scary times.
joe rogan
It's definitely not unexciting.
It's just so fraught with peril and terrible possibilities.
Do you think about it all the time or no?
brian redban
I do.
I mean, like I said, I've been really thinking about end of times all the time, you know, just protect family.
unidentified
I got a question for you.
joe rogan
Why don't you look into Jesus?
brian redban
I went through that.
I grew up that way.
I'm glad to be out of that.
joe rogan
It'd be amazing if that was the answer.
It would be amazing if the aliens came too.
That would be nice.
If you guys are going to come, if you're really going to prevent the world from falling apart, it's probably a good time.
Nah, it was a good time.
I don't know if you want to see how we sort this out.
What is this?
Here we go.
We'll end it with this.
The best part is the beginning, though, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Oh, I was just sort of...
An outro?
Okay.
joe rogan
Alright, let's wrap this up.
Kill Tony on YouTube every Monday.
You guys have two weeks off.
That's gotta be nice.
brian redban
Yes, taking a little break.
unidentified
It's great.
goes take a look at what you've done to yourself why don't you put the bottle back on the shelf yellow finger from your cigarettes your hands are shaking while your body sweats why don't you look into jesus He got the answers.
joe rogan
It's good.
What?
jamie vernon
Janis Joplin version.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
There's a lot of covers of it.
brian redban
That's good to know.
joe rogan
Give me the Janis Joplin.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Please.
unidentified
Is that her or is that him?
brian redban
That sounds like him.
joe rogan
Hold on.
jamie vernon
I think that was him.
joe rogan
That's him?
brian redban
Yeah, that sounded like him.
joe rogan
Where's the Janis Joplin version?
jamie vernon
They might have tricked me on YouTube.
joe rogan
Maybe she sings in it.
That seemed a little different.
jamie vernon
It says Janis Joplin version, okay.
joe rogan
Keep it going.
Let's see.
unidentified
There's a bunch of pictures of her.
That could just be what it is.
Why don't you put the bottle back on the shelf?
Yellow finger from your cigarettes Your hands are shaking while your body sweats No, that's him.
jamie vernon
Keep it going though.
joe rogan
That's him.
jamie vernon
You write it for her?
joe rogan
Maybe.
unidentified
It says Larry Norman.
joe rogan
Janis Joplin version.
Let's see what goes on.
unidentified
Gonorrhea on Valentine's Day.
If you're still looking for the perfect name.
You think rock and roll will set you free.
Honey, you'll be dead before you're 33.
Shooting junk until you're half insane.
A broken needle in your purple vein.
Why don't you look into Jesus Christ?
joe rogan
He got the answer Maybe like it was a message to Janis Joplin Totally, that's what it is You say you're gonna be a superstar But you never hung around enough to find out who you really are This song slaps.
I mean, that's kind of the Janis Joplin story.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
However, Janis songs were way better than that.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that lady.
Okay, let's end with this.
Play Take a Little Piece of My Heart.
This is, to me, when you think about all-time soulful songs, that lady's voice was haunting me.
it had so much depth and emotion and this is like a quintessential 1960s rock and roll song Oh,
come on, son.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah!
I can do anything that a woman possibly can.
I need no idea.
And each time I tell myself that I want to think I've had enough.
But I'm going to show you, baby, that a woman can't be tough.
I want you to come on, come on, come on, come on.
Take it.
Take another little piece of my heart now, baby.
Oh, pleasure.
Take another little piece of my heart now, baby.
You know you got it if it makes you feel good.
Oh, yes, it did.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why do people like her have to die so young?
unidentified
I just need more of them. - Yeah.
brian redban
There's not any Janis Joplin's anymore.
joe rogan
It's like to come up with something like this, it's like you have to live so hard.
You have to live so hard to be this lady.
brian redban
Well, just need to bring Narcan wherever you go.
unidentified
I'm singing once again.
I said, come on, come on, come on, come on.
Take another little piece of my heart now, baby.
Take another little bit of my heart now, baby.
That's such a good song.
Oh. - Ah!
What a nice song.
joe rogan
All right, Brian Rabban, I love you.
brian redban
Love you too, buddy.
joe rogan
It was fun.
brian redban
Definitely.
joe rogan
Goodbye, everybody.
Hopefully there'll be a world tomorrow.
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