Aug. 17, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. | ||
| Okay, and we're up. | ||
| First of all, thanks for coming here. | ||
| Thanks for everything. | ||
| Pleasure, man. | ||
| We're very excited. | ||
| Just introduce yourself. | ||
| Start with you, Josh. | ||
| I'm Josh Henning from the Roadshow Shop. | ||
| Phil Gerber. | ||
| Jeremy Gerber. | ||
| And you guys make fucking awesome cars. | ||
| Well, thank you. | ||
| For a living. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| What a great job. | ||
| I mean, what a fucking great job. | ||
| Dude, yeah it is. | ||
| You guys get to work on some of the fucking coolest cars that have ever been made. | ||
| You guys have an incredible gig. | ||
| Living the dream, man. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| So I drove that 1970 Barracuda and I got here. | ||
| I said, I don't want to say shit until we get on the air. | ||
| Dude, I'm sweating. | ||
| I've been sweating thinking about it. | ||
| That thing is a masterpiece. | ||
| It's my favorite. | ||
| That's my favorite car now. | ||
| That just went number one. | ||
| It beat all of them. | ||
| Hell yeah, dude. | ||
| You know, like Edges. | ||
| You know, the Camaro's amazing. | ||
| My Nova that I got from Steve Stroop is fucking incredible. | ||
| But this thing is fucking... | ||
| It's also, it's like I have so much history with this car. | ||
| And I bought this car 20 years ago. | ||
| And to buy it, Reggie Bush bought it, and then he got rid of it after a while. | ||
| He dumped a bunch of money into it too, he was telling me. | ||
| And then when my friend Yoel told me he got it back, he called me and he said, I have your Barracuda. | ||
| I'm like, no! | ||
| And this is like, you know, I was already thinking that I wanted to get another one. | ||
| I wanted to get them. | ||
| I only like hot rods that are manuals. | ||
| That's all I like. | ||
| I do not like automatic hot rods. | ||
| It just feels like something's wrong. | ||
| When you're driving a classic muscle car, it's like, why am I not shifting? | ||
| You know? | ||
| And just what you guys did to that thing is just... | ||
| You guys are artists. | ||
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I appreciate it, man. | |
| It's really amazing. | ||
| Dude, we were stoked. | ||
| Stoked to hear when you found that car. | ||
| Because you could have built anything, you know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that damn car was so rad. | ||
| And to start with it... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Revamped that sucker and put our touch on it. | ||
| Man, I had a blast doing it, dude. | ||
| And I'm glad that you're digging it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Everything on that, all the styling and stuff aside, the focus was making that fucker work really good so that you got something fun to drive. | ||
| It drives so different than anything else. | ||
| It's that high-revving, naturally aspirated Mercury engine, which is very different. | ||
| It's a wild motor, man. | ||
| The Mopar dude's not a big fan of it, right? | ||
| Because it's a Chevy base, but it's a fucking motor. | ||
| It's an internal combustion engine. | ||
| It looks like a heavy under the hood. | ||
| People have to get over that shit. | ||
| There's a bunch of people that are taking V8s, like LS engines, and putting them in the back of Porsches. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And people are like, man, I don't know. | ||
| They're doing like those 964s, air-cooled engines. | ||
| But dude, do you know how fun that would be? | ||
| It's probably lighter than the Porsche engine. | ||
| It's got way more torque. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Way more horsepower. | ||
| Totally different sound. | ||
| I mean, it's upgrades. | ||
| It doesn't have to fit. | ||
| It's not like you've got to stick with whatever came in a factory to make it better. | ||
| It's hot riding. | ||
| They've got to let that shit go. | ||
| They've got to let that shit go. | ||
| The people who are the worst about it is Ferrari people. | ||
| Ferrari will sue you. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| I've heard that. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| If you buy a Ferrari and you paint it weird colors, they'll fucking sue you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you see there's a couple things floating around. | ||
| You get that dude that just, man, he swapped like a Honda motor, turbo Honda motor into an old 308. Every comment's like, when's the cease and desist letter coming? | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if they can do that with classic ones. | ||
| Because I know that there's a bunch of people that have hot-rodded some old GTOs. | ||
| And they really are incredible. | ||
| They're cool, dude. | ||
| I talk about it all the time. | ||
| I'm itching to, like, resto mod at Testarossa. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| It's going to happen one of these days. | ||
| I don't know why, but I think I see those cars. | ||
| Those cars never did it for me. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It looks like junk. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| That side thing with the, like, vents. | ||
| Like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Dude, it's the generation. | ||
| It's the generational gap, you know? | ||
| No, that was Miami Vice. | ||
| I was a kid. | ||
| I remember Miami Vice. | ||
| Everybody wanted a Testarossa. | ||
| I want to do that Lambo LP 2000 or whatever, the Lambo truck, the vintage one. | ||
| Oh, the one Mike Tyson had. | ||
| Mike Tyson had one of those back in the day. | ||
| Do those with mid-travel. | ||
| You only want to do that because you picture that fucking Doberman sitting in the front seat of that. | ||
| That's the perfect car for like Doberman Rottweiler. | ||
| I've got a little, yeah. | ||
| That's your style for sure. | ||
| Yeah, that's a guy with warrants. | ||
| Guy's got a car like that. | ||
| That guy's done some shady shit. | ||
| You gotta get some of those in your collection. | ||
| A Doberman in a Lambo truck. | ||
| Like, what are you up to? | ||
| Pretty sure you know how to get ketamine. | ||
| Dude, did you rip that cootie? | ||
| You drove it here, right? | ||
| Oh yeah, I drove it here. | ||
| So you got a few miles on it? | ||
| Yeah, oh my god. | ||
| Dude, it's so different. | ||
| That engine, it's just the high revving engine. | ||
| I mean, what's the red line on that thing? | ||
| You could shift it to like 8300, 8400. That's so crazy for a V8. It's so crazy and it sounds so different. | ||
| It sounds like a combination of the Voodoo engine from the Shelby GT350 and an exotic car. | ||
| It's real weird. | ||
| It's got a sweet sound. | ||
| The Voodoo engines and all those Coyotes are cool, but me even being a car guy, if I'm on the highway and I'm just cruising with my family and some asshole kid flies by you in one of those with an exhaust system on it, I'm like, what the fuck is... | ||
| Jesus, man. | ||
| What a little respect. | ||
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I don't think you need an exhaust system on one of those. | |
| They sound bad. | ||
| They sound good when they're straight from the factory. | ||
| I like that sound. | ||
| But dudes go crazy with their exhausts. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Isn't that annoying to you? | ||
| Yeah, it's like a maturity thing, I think, you know? | ||
| You want the exhaust tone. | ||
| Like that car, too, we put that little bypass on it. | ||
| You can open it up and it's maybe like 20-30% louder. | ||
| But it's not obnoxious. | ||
| It doesn't need to be. | ||
| That sounds perfect. | ||
| I didn't know if there was like an HOA or something, you know, so I was trying to make sure you had that option. | ||
| Yeah, try to be respectful. | ||
| Try to be respectful. | ||
| It's weird driving that though and then getting back in another LS V8 powered car and like you're shifting so much earlier and then you jump in that trying to figure like mentally stay in it another 3,000 RPMs and... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It comes alive at five grand and just rips. | ||
| It's just very different. | ||
| But it's got plenty of low-end torque for it to be fun, like right off the line. | ||
| But it's just like when you get on the highway, when you get on... | ||
| First of all, the handling of the thing. | ||
| I wanted to ask you this. | ||
| Because you guys remapped how the transmission works and the tunnel, and then you put the rear trans-actual, does that shift the weight more to the back? | ||
| That car ends up being, like, perfect 50-50. | ||
| So with a big monster V8 in front of it, the car still, you know, it's a little more exotic because it's balanced. | ||
| That's what I was thinking when I was driving. | ||
| I'm like, God, this thing is so balanced. | ||
| It's so sordid. | ||
| It's just, like, super predictable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it feels like a sports car, doesn't it, compared to... | ||
| The exact opposite feeling of the old car. | ||
| The old 70 was that it had that giant Hemi... | ||
| In the front. | ||
| And it was like really front-end heavy. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And you could feel it. | ||
| You could feel it around turns. | ||
| You could feel it everywhere. | ||
| It was like, yikes! | ||
| And it had solid rear axle. | ||
| It didn't have the widest tires in the world. | ||
| And it was just like, ugh. | ||
| Sketch. | ||
| Big old boat anchor. | ||
| That's why everybody that chimes in, they're like, man, shit, I had a big old 426 Hemi with a four barrel on it. | ||
| You're like, dude, what the fuck? | ||
| Shut your mouth. | ||
| Shut your mouth. | ||
| If I gave you that car, you'd shake your pants. | ||
| It's the most incredible car of all time. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| You drove the Camaro yesterday, you were talking about. | ||
| So it's interesting, back-to-back two days, jumping out of the Camaro. | ||
| The Camaro's way more sketchy. | ||
| The Camaro is like, if you're taking a right turn, you give it a little juice, you're gonna kick out. | ||
| It's so powerful at the low end. | ||
| It's so... | ||
| It's got that... | ||
| It just wants to go. | ||
| You gotta be very careful with the throttle in the Camaro. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta respect the Camaro a lot more than this one. | ||
| This one just lets you feel where the balance is. | ||
| It's just like you know where the limitations are. | ||
| It's like giving you more information, it seems like. | ||
| The Camaro is just like a bar brawler. | ||
| The Camaro is like some crazy dude who comes into a bar and he's doing coke and just wants to start smashing shit. | ||
| That's what it's like. | ||
| For one of those cars, for a 69, you don't get a 69 Camaro that handles better. | ||
| It handles amazing. | ||
| But it's so rowdy. | ||
| And it has, what is that, like 850 horsepower? | ||
| Yeah, 850 horsepower. | ||
| It's the supercharger, man. | ||
| The torque's like fucking on. | ||
| It's like a light switch. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| But you can wind that fucker out, though. | ||
| I mean, it'll shoot pretty straight. | ||
| It's a fun car to drive. | ||
| It's a recipe for disaster. | ||
| Just enjoy it at 7. Don't get that bitch up to 9 or 10. Don't do it. | ||
| Swap a pulley on it. | ||
| I had the privilege of flogging that thing, man, and making sure it was sorted, but that fucker is rowdy compared to the Kuda, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, it's very different. | ||
| It's a very different feeling, but they're both equally enjoyable in different ways. | ||
| You know, it's just the... | ||
| I mean, I've sang the praises of those cars so many times, but there's just something about that era of cars that is the greatest achievement in automotive history in terms of what it emotes from people, the kind of passion that people have for those things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sometimes it's too much passion, though. | ||
| You know, if you like flying under the radar. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, obviously, for you, yeah, it creates a lot of conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And for me, I'm like, you know, you drive something like that to fill it up with gas, and you're like, dude, everybody's best friend. | ||
| Everybody's got something to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those old pickup, 70s pickup trucks, too, same fucking situation. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| People who love those old pickup trucks, that's like a very specific breed of person. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Those C10s. | ||
| It is. | ||
| You know, it is and it isn't, because it transcends just the C10 dudes, because chicks love those. | ||
| Dude, C10s. | ||
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Really? | |
| Oh, yeah, like square-body Chevys. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Man, if you're a single dude and you're trying to roll some broads, man, get a fucking square-body... | ||
| This guy's out there right now taking notes and like, okay. | ||
| So you sure? | ||
| You sure about this? | ||
| Solid sales, bitch. | ||
| Yeah, so the year range, what do we got? | ||
| 73 to 79? | ||
| That's what we're doing. | ||
| Yeah, those legend series or whatever. | ||
| Is anybody redoing the OJ Bronco? | ||
| It's getting there. | ||
| It seems like it's old enough now that that's a classic, right? | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's shifting, man, because the generation is changing and people are doing more of those. | ||
| We just did an 87 Grant National, and it's getting into that era. | ||
| You're going to break into the early 90s. | ||
| We did a chassis for one, and we had it in our shop. | ||
| I wanted to do one, slam that bitch on a chassis, license plate juice. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Do you guys know Mark Curry, Hanging with Mr. Cooper? | ||
| Remember that show? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Mark Curry's a car nut, too. | ||
| He's a stand-up comic, and he had this beautiful O.J. Bronco. | ||
| It was really dope. | ||
| Pretty sure it was a Bronco. | ||
| And a fucking tree fell on it. | ||
| He had the Bronco in his show, I remember. | ||
| He had the Bronco in his show, too. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| His TV show, I think he would drive that. | ||
| Yeah, so look at this. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Yeah, a fucking tree fell on its truck and crushed it. | ||
| Man, poor guy. | ||
| Yeah, I think it totaled it. | ||
| Yeah, it looks like it. | ||
| See if you can get photos of it. | ||
| Because it's a massive tree that fell on its... | ||
| Look at the size of the fucking tree that fell on its Bronco. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| It was a dope Bronco, though. | ||
| He had a, like, completely redone. | ||
| It was a total sleeper. | ||
| There's Mark. | ||
| Mark's the shit. | ||
| Super cool dude. | ||
| Really, really funny stand-up, too, if you ever see him live. | ||
| I've never seen him. | ||
| He's really funny. | ||
| Really funny. | ||
| But, you know, he made, like, a ton of money off of hanging with Mr. Cooper. | ||
| He's just chilling, having a good time, enjoying himself. | ||
| But, uh, just luckily he wasn't in that thing. | ||
| That's how our governor got paralyzed. | ||
| The tree? | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| I always wondered what happened. | ||
| He was jogging. | ||
| Jogging around a lake. | ||
| Does a tree fall on you while you're jogging? | ||
| Dude, what are the odds? | ||
| What are the odds? | ||
| They do fall, though. | ||
| You know, when you're hunting and you're in an area with a lot of deadfall and it's windy, if you hear a crack, that's something you have to be very considerate of. | ||
| You have to really consider it. | ||
| Because if you hear a tree falling and it's anywhere near you, Like, you could get got. | ||
| Like, you have to really pay attention if you're in a place where trees fall. | ||
| It's super, super, super rare to be there when a tree falls. | ||
| But when you go through the woods, you see fallen trees all the time. | ||
| Like, they do happen. | ||
| And if you are there when that, I mean, you could just zig when you should have zagged. | ||
| If that happens to me, I hope it takes me out, dude, because I would not want to tell that story. | ||
| But if I'm limping around, and people are like, dude, what happened? | ||
| Fucking tree fell on me. | ||
| Came out of nowhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Abbott's pulled it off. | ||
| He's the governor. | ||
| He's a great guy, too. | ||
| And, you know, that's what happened to him. | ||
| It's a crazy story. | ||
| The guy was, like, super fit, running around a lake. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking wild. | ||
| That's like we always talk, no disrespect to anybody, but getting hit by a train. | ||
| I saw that on Instagram last week. | ||
| That's always blown my mind, because they don't sneak up on you. | ||
| They do though, because they're moving so fast you miscalculate how much time it takes to get out of the way. | ||
| You really do. | ||
| When you see them, you see them coming, they're coming towards you, you don't understand what that means. | ||
| If you think you can run across a highway because you see the car down there, no you can't. | ||
| No you can't. | ||
| That car's going 80 miles an hour. | ||
| It's gonna fucking smash into you. | ||
| It's just a bad cow. | ||
| And it's also like, for whatever reason, sometimes people stop on tracks. | ||
| It's the craziest thing. | ||
| Their car stalls, they get stopped on tracks. | ||
| Or they try to beat the train, and they get clipped. | ||
| That's what happened to Matt Hughes. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's like, oof. | ||
| Train's fucking... | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's an adrenaline thing, too. | ||
| You know, we were out ripping those scooters, those little rental fucking electric scooters, and Sean was a buddy of mine. | ||
| He fucking... | ||
| Throttles down on this thing. | ||
| I'm like, dude, don't do that. | ||
| Right in front of the train. | ||
| It looked like something out of a movie. | ||
| Like if we had fireworks going off in the background. | ||
| I forgot all about that. | ||
| I had a concussion. | ||
| I forgot about it. | ||
| And you're trusting some fucking rental scooter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, what are the odds that that thing's not beat to shit? | ||
| Driving around Austin yesterday, those things just, they leave them wherever, huh? | ||
| Ever. | ||
| You have a nap, you just find one, pick it up, start riding. | ||
| Yeah, they're in the middle of the road. | ||
| Like, yesterday we were driving around, they're just fucking everywhere. | ||
| It's a great way for people to get around, though. | ||
| Look, Austin is a great walking around city. | ||
| There's a lot of places to just walk. | ||
| Where my club is on 6th Street? | ||
| They shut the street down on the weekends. | ||
| And it's just for people walking around. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's fucking cool. | ||
| Everybody just wandering around, going to bars. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| Prime for a bachelorette party on about six or seven of those scooters. | ||
| Oh, they're always happening. | ||
| Seeing them get KO'd. | ||
| They're always happening. | ||
| And they're in those pedicabs. | ||
| They're always in the back. | ||
| Those scooters should be regulated here. | ||
| We're lucky to have Josh with us today because Josh had himself a fucking violent wreck on one of those in Louisville? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Helmet? | ||
| No helmet. | ||
| No helmet. | ||
| Head bang? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a bouncy ball. | ||
| We're all doing stupid shit. | ||
| Off the concrete? | ||
| Yeah, off the concrete. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I pull out my phone. | ||
| I'm navigating. | ||
| We're trying to find a bar. | ||
| I'm in the lead and pull out my phone and just kind of stand there and then got a tank slapper. | ||
| Honestly, my pride has hurt way worse. | ||
| Yeah, it's not recoverable. | ||
| When you get older, falling becomes way more dangerous. | ||
| That's what we said. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I used to fall when I was a kid. | ||
| It was like a normal thing, like, fall off your bike. | ||
| Now you fall off your bike, like, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, checking everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It used to be able to, like, roll. | ||
| Now it's just you hit and splat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just hit awkward. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then things click. | ||
| Why is it clicking? | ||
| Why is my neck clicking? | ||
| I'm just thinking about crack bones and shit. | ||
| Yeah, don't ride scooters, bro. | ||
| Come on, we need you. | ||
| He learned his lesson. | ||
| We need you out there making awesome cars. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I saw that Grand National you guys did. | ||
| That's another car that I appreciate, but I don't get it. | ||
| I put that in the Testarossa category. | ||
| To me, it's like, that's a sedan. | ||
| That's like a regular sedan. | ||
| There's nothing special about it. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| So I've never been into those cars either. | ||
| I've always hated the G-Bodies. | ||
| Not a fan at all, but that's a car that's so fucking violently fast and badass to drive. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure. | ||
| And it's got like a menacing... | ||
| It kind of made me a believer in them because it's got like this menacing look about it because it's, like you said, it's like a sedan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You look at it and it was an average-ass looking car. | ||
| But it kind of made me a believer. | ||
| I turned the corner on the G-Bodies a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit, but it's not the best shape. | ||
| Those years, what is that, like 87 or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, those years sucked. | ||
| It did. | ||
| Those years sucked. | ||
| Even the greatest stuff that anybody made during those years sucked. | ||
| When's a Mustang coming? | ||
| You gotta do a Mustang, don't you? | ||
| I do have to do a Mustang. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| It's pretty dope. | ||
| As far as those cars go, it's dope. | ||
| But it's just, they're not the best looking cars. | ||
| Like, if you're gonna... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you're gonna commit to a car... | ||
| You like some shape and some... | ||
| I like the old 70s stuff, right? | ||
| I like the ones when people were taking acid and making great music. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That was the era, man. | |
| That's the cars. | ||
| Those are the cars. | ||
| Yeah, you had these, like, colorful characters that were designers. | ||
| What's that dude's name? | ||
| It was just a fucking nut, dude. | ||
| Remember with the crazy clothes? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| God. | ||
| Crazy GM designer. | ||
| No, had the red suit all the time. | ||
| For sure they did drugs. | ||
| Tons of drugs. | ||
| Here's why you can tell. | ||
| It drops off radically after the sweeping psychedelics act of 1970. So in 1970, they made everything Schedule 1. They turned mushrooms, LSD, everything became Schedule 1. And the purpose of it... | ||
| Look at this fucking crazy dude. | ||
| That's the guy who designed everything. | ||
| He's an animal! | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| You know that dude was doing drugs. | ||
| Dude, world famous, famous guy. | ||
| So when they made it in 1970, from 70 on, the car started sucking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, literally. | ||
| Like, it's like right when everything became illegal, the cars just fell apart. | ||
| You get, like, a couple of good 71s. | ||
| Like, the 71 Barracuda's dope. | ||
| In the carryover cars. | ||
| Yeah, but you get into, like, the 70 Camaros, and you're like, what did you do? | ||
| Like, what did you do? | ||
| It's like, it's okay. | ||
| But you had perfection. | ||
| Like, what did you do? | ||
| That's a funky one to think. | ||
| Because there's 70 Camaro guys, you know, and I could see, like, there's something about them that's all right. | ||
| But to veer away from such an iconic design, the 69, it's one of the baddest-ass cars ever made. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And to just drop that, not even, like, evolve it a little bit. | ||
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And then you get into, like, the 80s, and you're like, what is that? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Irox? | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| What have you done? | ||
| What have you done? | ||
| What are you guys doing? | ||
| Do something? | ||
| You guys are on the wrong drugs. | ||
| Well, I think cocaine came in and played a part of it, you know? | ||
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His fucking design is awesome! | |
| Send it! | ||
| We did a 79 Camaro white one, and it's like, you know, white T-tops, did it for a guy out of Pennsylvania, and we call it the cocaine cruiser. | ||
| It's got that look, you know, but the design, it kind of went out the fucking window. | ||
| I think, like, AMX, AMC AMX, I'll bet you that entire product line was like an acid trip, I feel like. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, they had some wild ones. | ||
| That's javelins and shit. | ||
| Even the way they were, I mean, besides just the drugs, I mean, there's stories about Bill Mitchell. | ||
| I mean, he was supposedly, now this is a story as you heard, they were paying prostitutes out of petty cash from General Motors. | ||
| Of course they were. | ||
| Like, on a weekly basis. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| Pay them in gold bullions? | ||
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But they lived a life, like, It was kind of a rock star lifestyle. | |
| I mean, there's stories about them getting drunk and taking like a horse-drawn carriage in New York City and driving it like through the Waldorf Astoria. | ||
| And I mean, shit like that back in the day. | ||
| It's a crazier mentality, and they were getting away with a lot more shit that I think trickled down to the company. | ||
| I think they trickled down to the design. | ||
| They were rock and roll guys. | ||
| They made rock and roll cars, man. | ||
| They really did. | ||
| You go back and look at a 1969 Mustang, whatever you were on back then, you fucking nailed it. | ||
| There was nothing like that before that. | ||
| The difference between the 1950s cars and the 1960s cars is crazy. | ||
| Because if you think about the difference between a 2013 car and a 2023 car, not much fucking difference. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Even Mustangs and things like that. | ||
| They look great. | ||
| You know, 10 years ago, they look great now. | ||
| But they don't look that much different. | ||
| That's an old car. | ||
| But 50s to 60s, that's when the drugs kicked in. | ||
| That's 100%. | ||
| They started making the Corvette look like the 67-plus Corvette. | ||
| They just had this fucking shape to it. | ||
| You know, they just went ham. | ||
| Dude, that's a good observation. | ||
| I've never really put two and two together on that. | ||
| Because, yeah, the 50s stuff's so, like, civilized and, like, professional. | ||
| And then it, yeah, definitely... | ||
| These guys got fucked up and they made some amazing art. | ||
| And that's really what it is. | ||
| And what you guys do is take that art and update it. | ||
| That's what I love. | ||
| First of all, I love the craftsmanship and just the skill that you guys have. | ||
| In the engineering that's involved, and I just really, really appreciate all that. | ||
| All that goes into that. | ||
| But it's also art. | ||
| Like, you guys are making art with old art. | ||
| You take these rusted, old, fucked-up cars, and you strip them all down, put a completely new chassis, put everything in so it works like a modern car, and you get the best of both worlds. | ||
| You get that look that those cars had. | ||
| It was just magical. | ||
| Whatever they were... | ||
| Whatever, in the design element of those cars, it's just magical. | ||
| Dude, that's the key to those, because everybody loves muscle cars, but, you know, people look at them like, you get some dude who's like 45, 50 years old, right? | ||
| He made himself a bunch of cash, and he says, that looks cool. | ||
| I want to have it. | ||
| Has no fucking idea that when he buys a 70 Cuda, it's a massive pile of shit to drive. | ||
| Like a bone stock car. | ||
| You have no idea. | ||
| Because you look at it, you think it's cool. | ||
| It's fast. | ||
| It was fast. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's got the iconic big motor and rumble. | ||
| My mom had a 1971 when I was growing up. | ||
| That's when I became infatuated with Kudas. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, it was with a 340 automatic. | ||
| Dude, that's a crazy car for your mom to have. | ||
| Your mom must have been pretty fucking cool. | ||
| She's pretty cool. | ||
| Um, but it was like the shape of that car just intoxicated me just as a kid and I was always like but hers was like kind of boring looking it was like kind of a copper bronze color it was like kind of boring stock and I was like man some one day one day that was like the car in my head always was like 70 71 I like both of them there's something about the 70 with the individual headlights it just makes it a little it stands out but that fucking grill in the 71 is pretty wild too Yeah, | ||
| I like the taillights on the 72. It's a good-looking car, man. | ||
| It's easy when you start with one of those. | ||
| We've done a handful of Kudas, because those cars are just good-looking to begin with. | ||
| You don't really have to touch the body on them. | ||
| You know, you talk about, like, making art. | ||
| That car's like art to begin with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think Dodge did the very best job of doing that retro version of the Challenger. | ||
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They did. | |
| I think that all those cars that, to me, look a lot like an old... | ||
| Like, the first time I saw the Hellcat, I was like, that's a fucking dope car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dope modern car. | ||
| Like, you could see driving that 15, 20 years from now. | ||
| It'd be cool. | ||
| Dude, they're very cool. | ||
| My problem with them is we've... | ||
| Always been around the muscle cars, so you're used to the proportions of like, I've had 70 Challengers, and you're used to those proportions. | ||
| And when you see that car next to it, it's like, I don't know, it's like the big dumb kid in gym class when you're a kid. | ||
| It's just like a little overgrown. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Why did they become bigger? | ||
| All the shit's so much bigger. | ||
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It's just the wheelbase, the platform, you know, all the safety requirements they have to have. | |
| The HVAC system in a new modern car or whatever is as big as your entire dash interior of like that 70 Cuda. | ||
| You pull out the HVAC system under the dash of one of those new ones. | ||
| That's why from the steering wheel all the way to the outside of the firewall, I mean, you're talking like three fucking feet. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's just the amount of shit they pack into those new cars. | ||
| It's fucking nuts. | ||
| The horsepower and the performance is pretty mind-blowing on that stuff. | ||
| Everybody raves about the muscle car era, but if you stop and think, you could go into the dealership right now and buy a thousand horsepower car. | ||
| A car that runs nine second quarter miles. | ||
| Jamie just got a brand new Tesla Plaid, and I don't know if you've driven one of those, but look, I love muscle cars, but that car makes every car feel stupid. | ||
| That's what I've heard. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| I mean stupid. | ||
| It goes zero to 60 in two seconds. | ||
| It flies. | ||
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It's nuts. | |
| It goes so fast, it's like it's time traveling. | ||
| It goes... | ||
| Like it moves into positions that no other car can do it. | ||
| And somehow it does it silently so you don't feel like a douchebag. | ||
| Like you're like... | ||
| And getting in front of somebody, you just go... | ||
| How wild is it, Jamie? | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| I mean, I barely drove it yesterday because I took it in the back and was just like, oh my god, this is a little... | ||
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Okay, hold on. | |
| I think it's 1100 horsepower. | ||
| Is it controllable or is it just go by itself? | ||
| It's so dialed in. | ||
| There's never wheel spin. | ||
| I mean, when you take off, there's no wheel spin. | ||
| It's all completely electronically managed. | ||
| The base of the thing is all batteries, so the weight is low, so it's got an amazing center of gravity. | ||
| A thousand twenty horsepower. | ||
| Oh, back to your point. | ||
| 1.9 seconds, zero to 60. It's nuts. | ||
| Bro, it's preposterous. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's tough when you talk about that to, like, make the argument against electric cars. | ||
| Because, dude, the performance is nuts. | ||
| I drove the fucking Kuda here today, though. | ||
| I didn't drive the Tesla. | ||
| It's a different experience. | ||
| Like, I'm not trying to go... | ||
| I'm not embracing anybody. | ||
| I'm just going to work. | ||
| You know, like, it's the feeling. | ||
| It's the auxiliary experience. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| A little bit of vibration, the noise. | ||
| You're connected to the car, right? | ||
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You... | |
| I feel like you're the one operating the car. | ||
| There's a few things in life that people wish they had that are actually worth getting. | ||
| And muscle cars are one of them. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's just one of them. | ||
| Dude, modified muscle cars. | ||
| Modified muscle cars. | ||
| Like what you guys do. | ||
| Because it's like, there's a lot of things that people wish they had, and when you have it, it's like, I explained this once, like, My first nice apartment that I ever had was in North Hollywood. | ||
| When I first moved to California and I was on a TV show, I was like, wow, I got a nice apartment. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| This is my own place. | ||
| It had a loft and it had a pool table. | ||
| And I was sitting in front of my TV and I realized, I go, oh, this is just a house. | ||
| It's just like every other house. | ||
| It's the same feeling I had when I was in a shitty apartment. | ||
| It's just your place. | ||
| You go to your place, you chill. | ||
| It's the same feeling. | ||
| So all that extra money you pay for these big giant houses and all the crazy shit, you think you're going to get that same amount of juice from like, wow, what an amazing feeling being in this house. | ||
| But it's just your house. | ||
| You just have that same feeling, oh, I'm in my house. | ||
| Oh, I'm opening my refrigerator. | ||
| I'm going to have breakfast. | ||
| It's the same feeling. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not the same feeling with cars. | ||
| I drive the Tesla to work. | ||
| It's quiet. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I listen to books on tape. | ||
| I'm cruising along. | ||
| It makes no sound. | ||
| It's very relaxing and peaceful. | ||
| But when I drive the Camaro to work, it's like I'm in a fucking Doors video. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's a trip. | ||
| I'm on a Disney ride. | ||
| I'm in a Disney ride. | ||
| Are you jamming out to any music in that, or do you just listen to the motor? | ||
| I jammed out to music until I was halfway here, and I'm like, I didn't want to hear the music anymore. | ||
| I just wanted to hear the engine. | ||
| You know, there's both things. | ||
| Like, I have a Porsche 1993 RS America. | ||
| It's the rawest car I have. | ||
| It's not fast at all. | ||
| It only has like 300 horsepower. | ||
| It has no power steering. | ||
| It has no air conditioning. | ||
| It has no radio. | ||
| It has no nothing. | ||
| And it weighs like, I don't know, 2,000 something pounds. | ||
| It weighs nothing. | ||
| And it's so fun. | ||
| I'll bet. | ||
| It's so different than any other experience. | ||
| And it's not the fastest. | ||
| It's the slowest car I have, for sure. | ||
| It's not that fast, but it's every mile per hour, everything you're fucking feeling in your ass and in your hands, and it's this raspy, air-cooled... | ||
| You don't have to be going fast. | ||
| It's just the feeling you're getting. | ||
| You're on a ride. | ||
| It requires all of you. | ||
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All of you. | |
| It's like a motorcycle. | ||
| You're connected. | ||
| You're making everything happen. | ||
| You're the one controlling it. | ||
| There's no computers. | ||
| There's no traction control. | ||
| You have to really steer that bitch, too, because there's no power steering. | ||
| So, like, when you're parallel parking, you gotta work your forearms. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| But the feeling, the feedback you get is unprecedented. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| And they say it's even more so if you get to, like, these 1970 ones. | ||
| When they do, like, Chris Harris did that once. | ||
| He took a, I think it was a 1970 or 71 911 T. See if you can find that video. | ||
| It's like Chris Harris, my perfect sports car. | ||
| And so he took this 911 T and he brought it to this guy who makes race cars. | ||
| And he had him fit it with a roll cage and, you know, ramp up the engine and... | ||
| Tune the suspension and there's a video of him driving around the British countryside in this green 1970s Porsche and it's fucking amazing. | ||
| It's what everybody loves about driving just in one video. | ||
| This guy who's an automotive enthusiast, he can kind of get any car he wants. | ||
| I mean, Chris Harris is like the premier auto journalist of our time. | ||
| And he chooses to have this one little tiny, lightweight, stripped-down car that he has built. | ||
| Have you found it? | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Give me some volume. | ||
| I need volume. | ||
| Oh, no, that's not it. | ||
| That's the Singer DLS. That's the nasty car, too. | ||
| The one below it. | ||
| The one below it. | ||
| No, not Singer. | ||
| Chris Harris, 911. Put, like, my perfect sports car. | ||
| 911, my perfect sports car. | ||
| That era of 911, I mean, it's very similar to the muscle car vibe. | ||
| Yes, very. | ||
| That's it right to the second one down. | ||
| Remember the green 911? | ||
| That one. | ||
| So, this is a car that Chris just like, you know, had built over time. | ||
| Just give me... | ||
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| Then we got completely carried away with the engine spec, and I stomped my feet like a child until Richard found a later G50 gearbox and altered the rear torsion tubes to make it fit. | ||
| Oh, and the engine is 3.4 litres of hand-built sexiness, and it has about 320 horsepower. | ||
| And the car weighs under 1,000 kilograms. | ||
| And when we drove it side-by-side with my then-new BMW M3, the Porsche was quicker. | ||
| The chassis is probably the trickiest bit of all on this car. | ||
| I didn't just want an RS replica, so we went for the look of an ST, which for those of you less geeky than me on the subject of old 911s, is a car from 1971 with wider arches than an RS and no ducktail spoiler. | ||
| So we have eight and nine inch wheels. | ||
| The nines are rare and stupidly expensive, but they do look the business. | ||
| and that also means we have more mechanical grips and a wider track and we needed some trick damper to deal with that. | ||
| The internals of the ones fitted to this car are very similar to the stuff fitted to Sebastian Roy. | ||
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| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
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Why do they sound so much smarter than we do? | |
| That's why we use them for infomercials. | ||
| Dummies buy things from people with British accents. | ||
| Way more eloquent. | ||
| ShamWow! | ||
| The ShamWow guy was American though, right? | ||
| He was a wild boy, right? | ||
| Didn't he get bit a hooker or something like that? | ||
| Is that what he did? | ||
| Yeah, he got arrested for biting a hooker. | ||
| I never would have guessed. | ||
| He seemed like a straight shooter. | ||
| I think he did that ShamWow, got that ShamWow money and started doing ShamWow money things. | ||
| Sounds good for him, dude. | ||
| That's an American success story right there. | ||
| I think he's dead. | ||
| Is he dead? | ||
| Is ShamWow guy alive? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Congratulations, sir. | ||
| I think it's the OxiClean. | ||
| Didn't he have a coke problem and killed himself? | ||
| The OxiClean guy? | ||
| Billy Mays. | ||
| Oh, he did. | ||
| I'm still trying to get past the biting the hooker. | ||
| Was that just the problem with the negotiation on the front end? | ||
| Couldn't you have just... | ||
| It depends on the tail end, too. | ||
| What drugs he's on, what the hooker did. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Who knows what happened? | ||
| I don't know the story. | ||
| Very unfortunate for all involved. | ||
| But yeah, the Billy Mays guy, he was doing a lot of blow and he had a heart attack or something, right? | ||
| Is that what he died from, Jamie? | ||
| Not quite like that, but I don't want to get into it. | ||
| You don't want to get into it? | ||
| I'm friends with his son. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'm sorry, Jamie. | ||
| Sorry for bringing that up. | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
| Anyway, who doesn't like to party? | ||
| Look, James Gandolfini, one of my favorite actors of all time. | ||
| That's how he went. | ||
| Partied a little too hard. | ||
| Blew the ticker. | ||
| Leave it all on the field. | ||
| Not that it matters. | ||
| That's one of my all-time favorite fucking shows. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Gandolfini was the first guy that you rooted for that was a murderer. | ||
| He was the hero. | ||
| He murdered Christopher Moltisanti in the Cadillac. | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| I mean, he was the first real, I think, on TV, the first real anti-hero. | ||
| If you really think about it, was there anybody before him? | ||
| Jamie, can you think of anybody before him? | ||
| That'd been like 94, 95? | ||
| The Sopranos was later than that, I believe. | ||
| Yeah, I think it was early 2000s. | ||
| I remember thinking when I was watching, okay, this is totally different than anything ever. | ||
| Because they can do anything. | ||
| That intro? | ||
| That score at the beginning? | ||
| It was so annoying being Italian then, because everybody wanted to talk like they were in the mob. | ||
| All the dumbest Italian guys on the East Coast, like, hey, that's our fucking thing. | ||
| This is our thing. | ||
| Shut your mouth. | ||
| Everybody wanted to be on the mob. | ||
| It's like people move into Montana because they saw Yellowstone. | ||
| It's like the same shit. | ||
| It's enticing, man. | ||
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Fuck, I watch it. | |
| They sold it hard. | ||
| I want to be a rancher! | ||
| Until you've got to do rancher stuff. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| You've got to get up at fucking 3 in the morning and feed the cattle. | ||
| That's real work. | ||
| You can get into shootouts and... | ||
| Yeah, why are they getting into so many murders? | ||
| Blowing up buildings, all kinds of cool shit. | ||
| You're in their shoulder deep in a fucking cowl trying to pull out the calf and doing all that shit. | ||
| I don't think people realize it's not just all about distressed leather boots and cool jackets. | ||
| There's some fucking work there. | ||
| Backbreaking work, yeah. | ||
| But there's this amazing scene where this old cowboy is talking to this young guy and he's saying, you're doing art for no audience. | ||
| Like when you're out there. | ||
| You're doing art for no audience. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| If you really love that, that is what it is. | ||
| That's an interesting way of looking at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're doing it. | ||
| We're plastering it all over Instagram and the internet and YouTube and trying to get everybody to see it. | ||
| With an audience. | ||
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Yeah, with an audience. | |
| Doing art for an audience. | ||
| It's interesting, though, because it is kind of what that is. | ||
| And there's something about, like, cattle wrangling and all that stuff that somehow or another speaks to human beings. | ||
| Because I think we evolved doing that. | ||
| And I think, like, tending to the land. | ||
| And I think farmers have that sort of same feel, too. | ||
| There's something about that that's just like natural with human beings. | ||
| There's a natural human reward system that's involved with cultivating your own food and being involved in a farm. | ||
| I think it just centers people in a very unusual way. | ||
| Because I think it's like your body's designed for a certain amount of that. | ||
| I think it's a good thing, even if it's glamorizing in an unrealistic light, and it does make people go and say they sell their business and they go out there and they're going to become a rancher and then they fail. | ||
| But at least it is pushing some people to get back to that wilderness living, like... | ||
| I think it's a good thing. | ||
| Most people aren't cut out for it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's a lot of people. | ||
| Remember that movie with Pauly Shore? | ||
| Was it Son-in-Law? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll bet you there's so much of that going on out there in Montana. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Billings and shit like that. | ||
| Well, there's something going on in Wyoming. | ||
| Um, Jeffree Star, who's this famous YouTuber, who, like, is, like, uh... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are they transgender? | ||
| Or is he gay? | ||
| He's very flamboyant. | ||
| Very fun. | ||
| But he's, like, involved in some dispute with his neighbor. | ||
| Or he just said his neighbor tried to kill him, run him off the road, and I don't know what the fuck is going on, but he's making Instagram videos about it. | ||
| Like, can you imagine you're some rancher and Jeffree Star moves next door? | ||
| Have you seen these joke parties? | ||
| He wouldn't exactly fit in. | ||
| But maybe he would. | ||
| I mean, maybe they're open-minded. | ||
| I don't know what's going on, so I can't really comment. | ||
| You think he's going down a tractor supply and buying a couple bags of feed? | ||
| It might be. | ||
| It'd be fun. | ||
| Some Carhartts. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Yeah, Carhartts. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think he's right around the field with Lululemon on. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what they're doing, but it's like... | ||
| RuPaul bought a fucking ranch, too. | ||
| RuPaul bought some giant ranch in like Wyoming, lives on a ranch. | ||
| How many people out there have been in that industry? | ||
| They've been in Montana, they've been in Wyoming their whole lives, and they're making a fortune off of selling ranching supplies. | ||
| All this stuff that they say, for these people that come in, they've just moved. | ||
| Like, I'm starting a ranch, what do I need? | ||
| I'm gonna set you up, so what you're gonna need is... | ||
| Ranch starter kit? | ||
| Can you imagine starting a ranch from scratch? | ||
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| What are you going to do? | ||
| Do you know how to do this? | ||
| Are you crazy? | ||
| The learning curve is going to die. | ||
| How many cows do I need? | ||
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Several. | |
| A whole mess of them. | ||
| It should actually be a fun reality show. | ||
| Didn't Jeremy Clark do that? | ||
| Didn't he do something like that? | ||
| Didn't Jeremy Clark start a farm? | ||
| I believe he did. | ||
| I think he did it for a television show. | ||
| And the same kind of deal. | ||
| Yeah, it's got to be all-encompassing. | ||
| Like, you'd be exhausted. | ||
| Yeah, Clarkson's Farm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Episode 1 surviving. | ||
| Dude, it's all changing. | ||
| Everything's changing in this country because they're moving like... | ||
| I mean, Austin's a good example. | ||
| Years ago, it was Texas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just badass. | ||
| Fucking cowboy stuff. | ||
| And now it's... | ||
| Well, Austin was always very blue. | ||
| Austin's always been like this blue spot in a red state. | ||
| And it's always been very progressive. | ||
| And one of the funniest things that I've ever seen that's like pretty accurate said, there's a t-shirt that said, keep Austin weird and surrounded. | ||
| It's like, you need the balance. | ||
| You need the balance. | ||
| Because if you're in a place like San Francisco or LA, there's no fucking balance, right? | ||
| There's no, like, Republicans on the outside and progressives. | ||
| Like, even the progressives here are so much more reasonable than the progressives in LA. Because they encounter, like, rational opposition to their ideas all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, that stuff only works in urban environments, like progressive ideology and the policies they push with homelessness and crime and defunding the police. | ||
| That shit only works. | ||
| And it doesn't work. | ||
| It doesn't work at all. | ||
| But you can only get away with it in urban environments. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| In the country, no one's buying any of that. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's just like people work too hard. | ||
| It's like if you want to get by, you're fucking in a rural area. | ||
| No one's interested in that nonsense yourself. | ||
| So the beautiful thing about Texas is Austin is this like small city. | ||
| There's only like a million plus people. | ||
| Not that many. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And then there's another million on the outside. | ||
| And then outside of it is just Texas. | ||
| Outside of it is Buc-ee's and fireworks. | ||
| Dude, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Gun stores. | ||
| It's like, it's ranches. | ||
| It's like, that keeps Austin balanced. | ||
| Where they don't get too off the rails. | ||
| They don't go to Portland. | ||
| I'm going to ask you about the homeless stuff. | ||
| We were here, what, two years ago? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was really, really getting... | ||
| It was height of, you know, pandemic stuff and all that. | ||
| But, man, last night, going around, it's way different. | ||
| Yeah, they cleaned it up. | ||
| They did it in a very intelligent way. | ||
| They acquired hotels, and they bought buildings and housed people, and they have a bunch of different programs they do to try to help people get back on their feet, and they discourage camping. | ||
| They won't let people camp. | ||
| You just can't camp under the bridges. | ||
| They clean up your shit. | ||
| They'll take you out of there. | ||
| They'll let you know that there's resources available for you. | ||
| But the real problem in all these cases is mental illness. | ||
| That's the real problem. | ||
| Mental illness and drug addiction. | ||
| And both of those things kind of go hand in hand. | ||
| And a lot of those folks are like badly, badly addicted to drugs. | ||
| And they can't Sustain themselves and they can't support themselves and I don't think encouraging them to just camp out everywhere like they do in San Francisco And they actually give them money for doing that that doesn't help anybody. | ||
| It's not helping them. | ||
| It's not helping your community It's terrible and everybody knows it. | ||
| You don't think that enabling them and giving them like needles and stuff like California does is beneficial or? | ||
| I think they should give everybody's money. | ||
| All the money. | ||
| If they were rich, they'd have no problems. | ||
| Just give them all a million dollars. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| All the money we're spending in Ukraine is only like 2,000 homeless people. | ||
| They could afford that. | ||
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Dude, I don't know. | |
| I don't know if it kills your problems. | ||
| Look at the fucking Shamwell guy, you know? | ||
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Different problems. | |
| Different problems. | ||
| Amplifies it, maybe. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you just gave them money, it wouldn't help. | ||
| You really... | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| I mean, I think that when a person is that fucked, when their mind is that fucked, and they're that far gone in terms of life, they have no hope, and they're just covered in filth, and they're living in a tent... | ||
| Taking that person and rebuilding them is a massive project. | ||
| It's probably going to take as much time to make them normal as it took for them to get that fucked up. | ||
| So you think about childhood abuse, sexual abuse, violence, detention, juvenile system. | ||
| They've gone through jail. | ||
| They've gone through so many different things. | ||
| They have no hope that life is eventually going to be awesome. | ||
| When you wake up, you go to an awesome job. | ||
| You guys have a cool place. | ||
| You work with cool people. | ||
| You make awesome shit. | ||
| That feels good. | ||
| That's like a good feeling. | ||
| These guys never have good feelings unless they're getting high. | ||
| And that's the scary thing. | ||
| You get them out of that and then they're going to be depressed. | ||
| They have nothing going on. | ||
| They're 43 years old. | ||
| They've never had a job. | ||
| How do you fix that? | ||
| But you don't fix it by just letting them camp out somewhere. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what the solution is because at a certain point in time, it's like It's so hard to turn people around. | ||
| And they have to want to turn around. | ||
| It has to be in them that they somehow or another want to do better. | ||
| Because some people don't want to do better. | ||
| They just want to stay high. | ||
| They're just like, I feel better when I'm high. | ||
| I'd just rather stay high. | ||
| And they just do heroin. | ||
| Just get caught in that rut. | ||
| You've got a lot of huge megachurches out there that aren't doing nothing for them. | ||
| You've got tens of thousands of people in arenas. | ||
| I mean, they're not doing... | ||
| Shit. | ||
| I don't think they can do anything. | ||
| But they're not doing anything. | ||
| They're not doing anything. | ||
| But I don't think they can do anything. | ||
| I don't know what you can do. | ||
| Other than what they've done in Austin, but Austin is a small... | ||
| I had the mayor on, Stephen Adler, and we talked about it. | ||
| And one of the things that he said was like, it's my goal before I leave office to put... | ||
| A handle on this homeless thing. | ||
| If I don't do that, I've failed. | ||
| And I think he did it. | ||
| But the thing that he said was, we can do it because we only have somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 homeless people. | ||
| He goes, Los Angeles is unmanageable. | ||
| They have like 100,000 homeless people. | ||
| When you get to that point, have you ever seen Skid Row in downtown LA? It's insane. | ||
| I saw it in person in the early 2000s, before the pandemic. | ||
| And it was nuts then. | ||
| Like, I couldn't believe it. | ||
| And it was engineered. | ||
| They used to take people, when they would arrest them, and dump them off on Skid Row. | ||
| They'd take people and bring them there. | ||
| They literally set up these homeless shelters, and they set up these food banks, and these people just live on this street. | ||
| It's a zombie movie. | ||
| It's so crazy when you go down there. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| This is saying that there's up to 10,000 people now homeless in Austin. | ||
| 10,000? | ||
| Yeah, 1% of the population. | ||
| What? | ||
| According to the city of Austin's own count. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Is this new? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they moved them out of the downtown area under the bridges, and they all live out in the parks now, apparently. | ||
| Oh, and like state parks? | ||
| Not even state parks, like city to city parks. | ||
| This is Zilker Park, I think. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's crazy, man. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| So they just got it out of view? | ||
| Is that what they did? | ||
| Yeah, I believe so. | ||
| So what it is, is like there's different people that... | ||
| Have to patrol that? | ||
| It might be different than the cops that are patrolling people on the streets. | ||
| 168 different camps across the city. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Often hidden from public view in the woods. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Dude, it's kind of like, you know, sweeping the floor. | ||
| Okay, take everything I said back. | ||
| Under the rug there a little bit. | ||
| They just got it off the streets. | ||
| Just blew the lid off of that one. | ||
| They just got it off the streets and now there's campments. | ||
| Back when your mom said, clean the room. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I did a great job. | ||
| Yeah, right under the rug. | ||
| All under the bed. | ||
| So are those all marks on the map that are homeless encampments? | ||
| Yeah, as of, uh, published February 26th, I think it was as of June. | ||
| And so they think there's 10,000 people? | ||
| Is this like some New York Post exaggeration? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But that's what the Austin City thinks? | ||
| Yeah, City of Austin County. | ||
| What do we know about homelessness in Austin? | ||
| Wow, so if that's the case then, when the mayor was on, which was a couple of years ago, the number's gone up by 8,000 people? | ||
| There's another crazy story. | ||
| That's why I was looking, while you guys were talking, that Mayfair Hotel in LA. Yeah. | ||
| Remember that's come up in a bunch of documentaries and all sorts of stuff? | ||
| They just paid, the city paid $11.5 million in damages because they used that in what they called Project Room Key, which got a bunch of people off the street into housing. | ||
| But immediately, drug use, damages in the hallways, violence, all sorts of stuff. | ||
| And now the city wants to buy that building for like $83 million. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And do what? | ||
| House homeless people and just let it stay being a shit home? | ||
| If you're telling me they gave them a free room and they destroyed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're a little, you know, self-destructive. | ||
| They're not in the best state of mind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know how we got on that subject. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You said something about Buc-ee's. | ||
| Have you seen the Buc-ee's? | ||
| No, they're building one in Mexico, but it's not a Buc-ee's. | ||
| It's a knockoff? | ||
| Yeah, they got them cease and desist and all that shit, and they're still building it. | ||
| Did you see what they did with In-N-Out? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| In Mexico, they have... | ||
| It's not in and out. | ||
| It's like in... | ||
| Knee out? | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| It's the same logo. | ||
| It's the same look. | ||
| Yeah, so it's not called in and out. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
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So this is in Culiacon, Mexico. | |
| In, I, and out. | ||
| It looks exactly like In-N-Out. | ||
| When you go there, the burgers are all the same, the trays are the same, animal style, the whole thing's the same. | ||
| They just stole the menu, they stole the way it looks, and they barely changed the name. | ||
| Gotta applaud their effort there. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's not like they're making Ferraris. | ||
| It's a fucking cheeseburger, you know? | ||
| You can make a cheeseburger exactly like that cheeseburger. | ||
| Yeah, but you could also come up with your own name. | ||
| Or you could just say, fuck you, I live in Mexico. | ||
| Ride the goat tails. | ||
| Yeah, what they could do is just eventually change the name. | ||
| Oh, Buck 2's Super Mercado. | ||
| Look, they got the fucking gopher on it and everything! | ||
| Same as the Buc-ee's guy. | ||
| It's not quite as big as the Texas version. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little downsized. | ||
| Buc-ee's is an impressive establishment, though. | ||
| It's a Walmart. | ||
| You go in there, you're like, what is this? | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| This is at a gas station? | ||
| You'd go broke at the beef jerky bar. | ||
| You've been to the beef jerky buffet? | ||
| Yeah, it's preposterous. | ||
| I mean, you gotta try a little bit of everything. | ||
| Yeah, it's a ridiculous place. | ||
| It's so Texas. | ||
| That's why I talk about it on stage, because it's so fucking Texas. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| Speaking of on stage, fucking last night, dude, thank you. | ||
| It was phenomenal. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Glad you guys had a good time. | ||
| Dude, phenomenal time. | ||
| You run that place and your whole entire staff. | ||
| I mean, hats off. | ||
| It's like watching an orchestra. | ||
| Like, seriously. | ||
| Yeah, they're all very good. | ||
| Everybody's great. | ||
| It's a lovely little environment that we've created. | ||
| It's real fun. | ||
| And everybody loves it. | ||
| It's like, everybody's having a good time. | ||
| It's real nice. | ||
| And you're working your fucking ass off. | ||
| Yeah, we're doing a lot of work. | ||
| But it's not work. | ||
| It's talking shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Dude, my fucking hat's off to you. | ||
| I mean, you're busting. | ||
| ass there and that's i don't know where the you get the energy from i'm 40 years old and i look at you i'm like god damn what am i doing wrong but i'm used to doing it i do it every day you know it's normal yeah yeah it's fun but it's fun it's just fun you know when you're doing stand-up like the hard part is the writing the writing and the creating new bits and working them out on stage that's the the tricky part the hard part But the fun part is just having a good time. | ||
| People have fun. | ||
| It's just having a good time. | ||
| You're just making a good time. | ||
| It's a great environment. | ||
| Cool place. | ||
| Yeah, it's beautiful. | ||
| Just like I was saying, you guys have this great job. | ||
| You go and do something that's very rewarding. | ||
| That's what owning a comedy club is like. | ||
| It's like we're providing this really fun experience. | ||
| It's like you can go, have a couple of drinks, laugh, have a great time, fun people, nice people, loving people. | ||
| It's like fun, beautiful environment. | ||
| There's only a few jobs in the world that provide that. | ||
| For us, you almost live there. | ||
| It's not a job, it becomes a lifestyle. | ||
| The shop, I spend more time there than I do anywhere else. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| That's the lifestyle that you live. | ||
| Yeah, and all the different personalities have to kind of like figure their spot, like figure out how to like get along with each other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That could be a real issue. | ||
| It can be. | ||
| That could be a very, very interesting issue. | ||
| You know, we get like 95 people total. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| And there's, you know, different personalities, different talents, different personalities, a lot of... | ||
| Well, it's a bunch of artists. | ||
| I mean, they're craftsmen. | ||
| I mean, imagine having 95 comics. | ||
| All living in the same... | ||
| Yeah, you're going to have issues. | ||
| Especially when they're around each other all day. | ||
| Like, we only see each other at night, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you go through your whole day, and most of these guys are, like, playing golf or doing something else, and then they come to the club. | ||
| I think there's a lot of similarities in any type of art and creation because you are getting some of that instant gratification as far as you're gratifying yourself with what you're creating, but you also get from that customer and you get stuff. | ||
| You're doing the same thing in the comic stuff. | ||
| I mean, you're getting... | ||
| It's not like you're putting in the work now, and then a year from now you'll see if it paid off or not, as far as that joke. | ||
| Throughout the night, you're knowing right now if it's hitting or not hitting or working. | ||
| There's something, I guess, different. | ||
| I mean, I'm looking at a corporate job of somebody going and pushing papers and having to wait for a year review before somebody said that you actually moved the needle or did a good job or whatever. | ||
| Right, and how much joy are you getting from what you're doing every day? | ||
| That's the big one. | ||
| Because if you can have a job that pays more money, but you hate it, That's not a good trade-off. | ||
| You want to feel good. | ||
| At all the things in life, if you get sick, what's the first thing you think? | ||
| Like, God, I really should have appreciated when I wasn't sick. | ||
| I really should have taken care of myself better. | ||
| I really should have been more careful. | ||
| I should have got more sleep. | ||
| I should have taken my vitamins. | ||
| And you vow, like, when I get better, I am going to appreciate this. | ||
| And that... | ||
| That applies to jobs too. | ||
| If you have a job that sucks, and you fucking hate it, you hate what you do, and you do it all the time, and you're just in there because you have to be there all day, your day is dread. | ||
| And if you can get paid less to do something that makes you feel better, that's so much more valuable. | ||
| As long as you can get by, you are so much better off getting paid less. | ||
| And enjoying what you're doing. | ||
| Unless you have a family and you have to support people and you have obligations. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I'm not saying you should go fucking risk your life on a whim. | ||
| But I am saying that, like, if you can pick a path in life that is more enjoyable, I feel like... | ||
| There's a lot of miserable rich people. | ||
| That's not the end-all. | ||
| It's a trap. | ||
| What you really want is to feel good. | ||
| You really want to feel good about your purpose in life, like the things you do, the way it impacts other people. | ||
| And that's what you guys do. | ||
| You guys make sure, like the look on people's faces when you deliver those cars. | ||
| Dude, for us, that's what gets you out of bed every morning, because it's hard work. | ||
| Just like how you're out there sweating your ass off and busting your balls, and I'm sure sometimes it's tough. | ||
| Building cars the same way. | ||
| I mean, they rip your heart out. | ||
| They challenge you. | ||
| It is tough, tough work. | ||
| But the finished product, the goal, and what makes it all worthwhile is giving you a car, and you drive it, and you're like, holy fuck, that thing's badass. | ||
| It doesn't matter if we made money, lost money, what's going on. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| That's what I thrive on, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was going to be my point when you hit on it is you're coming from the mentality of You're gonna always work as hard as you have to and then some to be successful at what you're doing and then because you've put in the work you're achieving goals which is what makes you happy. | ||
| There's people out there that don't want to put in the work and they're unhappy because they're not seeing success but they're not seeing success or being gratified or being happy with what they're doing because they're not willing to put in the work either. | ||
| They don't know what to do. | ||
| Some people just have no experience in putting in the work. | ||
| They don't know what that even means. | ||
| They don't know what grind Yeah, they just, they didn't have, like, that's one of the things that I think is very important about kids with competition, any kind of competition, whether it's chess or whether it's athletics, sports. | ||
| There's something about realizing that hard work equals getting better. | ||
| And hard work equals performance. | ||
| Like, you perform better when you work hard. | ||
| And you learn that. | ||
| Like, extreme examples are like wrestling. | ||
| People who go through wrestling practice, you realize this is hard to do. | ||
| And if you can get good at this, you can kind of get good at anything. | ||
| Because if you can push yourself mentally to deal with the grind of wrestling practice, you can kind of do anything. | ||
| It's just, if you can learn that lesson early on, though, about working hard, some people don't ever learn it. | ||
| They just play video games and eat Twinkies, and then one day they're 40. I gotta get my shit together. | ||
| Wrestling practice, like you said, being at wrestling practice and doing it hard is hard. | ||
| Becoming a good wrestler is even harder because it's not just at wrestling practice. | ||
| Like you said, it's when you come back from wrestling practice and thinking that you deserve a fucking treat because you worked really fucking hard that day and you need to eat like shit or you need to do this or you get to go and do... | ||
| It's all of the lifestyle to perform at a high level that's fucking hard, not just the act of doing what you're trying to do. | ||
| Well, especially when you get to a championship level. | ||
| When you get to All-Americans, state champs. | ||
| National champs. | ||
| I mean, those guys, there's not a stone unturned. | ||
| Those guys are animals. | ||
| They're doing everything exactly the right way because the competition is so stiff. | ||
| If you don't do it, the edge between you and another guy who's equally talented but works harder, he's gonna get better than you. | ||
| He's gonna bypass you. | ||
| And you feel it in practice. | ||
| There's guys that you know are running in the morning before practice. | ||
| You know these guys are doing the stairs. | ||
| Those guys have more gas. | ||
| Those guys are more driven. | ||
| And you always notice because those are the guys that win in the training room. | ||
| And that's the same with jujitsu. | ||
| It's the same with kickboxing, with everything. | ||
| There's guys that are very naturally talented. | ||
| For whatever reason, they just have great genetics and they learn things better. | ||
| But oftentimes, those guys don't work as hard. | ||
| Sometimes the really naturally talented guys are a little lazy because it kind of came easy to them. | ||
| They get outworked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The rare ones are the ones that are super talented and also crazy disciplined. | ||
| That's how you get a Michael Jordan. | ||
| That's how you get a Mike Tyson. | ||
| You get crazy disciplined and insane talent. | ||
| And insane genetics. | ||
| And then you're fucked because you're not going to beat that person. | ||
| There's only a few of those. | ||
| It's the devoting everything to just winning and nothing else matters. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| That's the only direction. | ||
| You sacrifice everything else to get to that level. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's not good either, right? | ||
| Your life is a disaster, but there's one thing you do you're the best at. | ||
| That's interesting, too. | ||
| Competition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You either have that competitive, I want to be better, or you don't. | ||
| Do you guys make cars, like, thinking about shows, thinking about, like, SEMA and showing people up? | ||
| You know, we used to do stuff like that, you know, where you're, like, you're competing for an award, but it's not. | ||
| You're never looking at, like, I'm going to do this because I want to win this award. | ||
| You're just trying to make the best possible car you can. | ||
| And, yeah, it's great, like, at the finish line if you get said award. | ||
| And sometimes you've got some customers that like that. | ||
| You know, some guys are, like, trophy chasing or they like parking the car and sitting at the show and, you know, waiting there for the awards ceremony and getting that, you know, half-million-dollar car and you get that $50 plaque and it makes it all worthwhile. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But... | ||
| No, man. | ||
| We've changed gears quite a bit over the years. | ||
| For me, it's the driving experience. | ||
| Making a car that's so functional, workable, that's just a blast to get in and drive. | ||
| And it's more rewarding getting a guy. | ||
| A dude comes up to the shop, picks up a car, and drives it 1,000 miles home. | ||
| That's better than getting that little plaque at a car show because you blew through an extra $700,000 trying to make something over the top. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All for that, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And most of those cars are not drivable at that point or you're going to be scared to death to drive it. | ||
| Not drivable? | ||
| When you're going to the insane show car trying to win every indoor award. | ||
| They're not drivable? | ||
| Really? | ||
| When you look at our industry, it's wacky. | ||
| The stuff you see that's so over the fucking top, like those hero cars and stuff, that's not something you're going to jump in and drive. | ||
| You're not driving that to work. | ||
| When you say hero cars, are you talking about those Baja racer things? | ||
| No, you see stuff that's like... | ||
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| Yeah, like SEMA show coverage or like the biggest, like the Riddler Award, like Josh says, you've got these cars that are like a million, two million dollar builds. | ||
| Chrome-plated rotors and felt pads. | ||
| You know, this is like show car, show car upon show car. | ||
| Oh, so you can't even drive it at all? | ||
| No, it's in and out of the trailer. | ||
| Yeah, and the tires are all wrapped in saran wrap so the tires don't get dirty. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's going away now, thank goodness, because the audience or the customers are changing, right? | ||
| And they're wanting to use these cars, right? | ||
| But everybody was so focused on chasing that trophy or going to a show and winning that trophy. | ||
| We want to go and make a good showing for the company with whatever we bring, right? | ||
| But worrying about a panel of judges or somebody judging the car and them deciding what's cool, that would be like... | ||
| You not having an audience and just having, like, Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul saying if it was a good joke or not, you know? | ||
| You want you to know that you're doing good and by the audience and everybody be like, fuck yeah, that's awesome. | ||
| And we want our customers and you want your fans and people that buy our chassis to be like, that's fucking cool. | ||
| What would be the purpose of felt rotors? | ||
| So it doesn't scratch the chrome and stuff like that. | ||
| These are show car... | ||
| Dude, it's... | ||
| It's felt pads and chrome rotors. | ||
| In and out of the trailer, man. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Some guys paint tires so they look black and they look always perfect. | ||
| It's almost like if you look, and I don't want this to sound disrespectful, but like a competitive bodybuilder versus like a fighter. | ||
| They're both working out. | ||
| But this dude's building his model. | ||
| He's not using them for anything other than flexing them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Show muscles. | ||
| You're talking about show muscles? | ||
| Well, I guess. | ||
| It's the same thing with cars. | ||
| You build these over-the-top cars and all they do is they kind of go up there and they... | ||
| The difference between an NFL running back, a super athlete. | ||
| That dude's working out because he wants to just fucking accelerate down the field like a rocket ship. | ||
| Versus someone who just wants to be a mass monster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just don't understand why anybody would want to make a car that they're not going to drive. | ||
| That mindset, I don't get that at all. | ||
| There's only one reason to have a car. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| I mean, there's been some wild stuff, like people that take down the side of their barn or the top story of their house and place a car in it, build it back up, and the car lives there forever. | ||
| It's kind of like I mean some of it I get it could be like art you can make something that's absolutely fucking beautiful and it's an art piece but to me it's dude you're building cars because you want to drive them yeah should be I could see having like a really old like Ferrari sitting in one of them rotary things it spins around it's like an art piece because they're fascinating to look at sure and driving them is probably not the best experience Yeah, not at all. | ||
| Have you ever driven like a stock old GTO? No, and I never have. | ||
| It's probably pretty engaging. | ||
| Just tons of stock old muscle cars. | ||
| They're terrible. | ||
| You get in a C1 Corvette that's stock, could be the worst performing vehicle ever. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, the ultimate American sports car, and we're always amazed that they're still on the road, that people don't just wind them up in ditches everywhere. | ||
| Is it that bad? | ||
| Oh, it's so bad. | ||
| So all that stuff. | ||
| You got like the, so the Bronco market, you know, that's great. | ||
| Like the early Bronco stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because those are, that is a popular, popular truck. | ||
| And that's one of those things where somebody sees, they just see it and they just want it because they think it's cool and they think they're going to drive it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, dude, you're not driving, that's not your Range Rover. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're not going to drive it. | ||
| But that's, and that's just, sure, they want to drive it. | ||
| It just physically doesn't perform well enough for them to drive it. | ||
| But, I mean, that's what we do is fix all that shit, you know? | ||
| You get that classic look of the car, but it functions like a new vehicle. | ||
| I have an Icon Bronco. | ||
| Okay, so yeah, well, that's all chassis swaps. | ||
| Same thing, yeah, same thing. | ||
| But even that, it's like, it's so raw. | ||
| Like, the difference between driving that and driving a modern, like a G-Wagon or something like that, it's a joke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How often do you drive that thing? | ||
| Well, right now it's getting worked on, so I'm getting some upgrades. | ||
| What are you upgrading? | ||
| It's got a coyote in it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Supercharging it. | ||
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Let's go. | |
| Dude, that's dicey. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Yeah, you're thinking about the Camaro being fucking sketchy. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I like a little dice. | ||
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All right. | |
| I like horsepower, foot and a half shorter wheelbase. | ||
| I like a little dicey. | ||
| Just every now and then. | ||
| What do you do with that? | ||
| That truck's just for, like, bobbing around town, though? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just for fucking around. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have a Land Cruiser that Icon made for me that's a real, like, performance Land Cruiser. | ||
| It's, like, really set up for off-road. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's got a supercharged LSA in it. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So it's got a lot of power. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it's got those solid axles, and it's lifted. | ||
| All the good stuff. | ||
| When the snow came, you know, we had, like, a snowpocalypse, and everything shut down in Austin. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| My car was like a Labrador Retriever just rolling around in the snow like, yay! | ||
| It's like, this is what we're designed for. | ||
| It just handled everything so well. | ||
| I literally built an apocalypse truck. | ||
| It's got a big-ass gas tank. | ||
| Back seats come out so it can be completely flat. | ||
| You can store things in it. | ||
| It's got extra batteries. | ||
| It's got winches and the whole deal. | ||
| What do you do about EMP Pulse? | ||
| About what? | ||
| Well, if that happens, does that shut off regular cars? | ||
| How does it do that? | ||
| It fries all the electronics. | ||
| So it fry the electronics that runs the LSA? Yeah, you gotta have something that runs on biodiesel. | ||
| You're going down a fucking rabbit hole. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| You get into that apocalypse vehicle. | ||
| Josh is building a Model T in his garage. | ||
| What would cause the EMT flare? | ||
| They talk about China doing an EMP flare. | ||
| They talk about it? | ||
| Who's the A? | ||
| QAnon for him. | ||
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What are you reading, bro? | |
| Chat rooms. | ||
| A-roll chat rooms. | ||
| It is possible. | ||
| That is the thing about all these cars that are controlled by electronics. | ||
| It's something to think about. | ||
| You know, these modern engines, these crate engines, they all come with electronics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If something like that happens, I'm just going to go out with whatever the fuck's going on. | ||
| I'm not too worried about that. | ||
| You're not running around? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you get the right idea with your apocalypse vehicle. | ||
| Well, Jonathan Ward, he does some cool shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all icon stuff, right? | ||
| Jonathan's an interesting cat. | ||
| He is, dude. | ||
| We do a little podcast. | ||
| We had him on there. | ||
| He's cool as hell. | ||
| He's kind of like a competitor, I guess you'd say, but we respect him. | ||
| We had him on, and he's an eccentric dude, man. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| He's a real artist. | ||
| He's a real artist. | ||
| And, you know, what he's doing is interesting, too. | ||
| He takes a lot of cars, like you guys do, when you do the Legend series, where he doesn't do anything to the outside of him. | ||
| He leaves this funky old patina of like... | ||
| Sun-baked paint and blotches and shit, but meanwhile inside it's immaculate and the suspension's immaculate and everything drives incredible. | ||
| I mean he does that with a bunch of old cars. | ||
| That's like the majority of our business, believe it or not. | ||
| Like all the dudes that have had like really over-the-top, shiny, cool, big-dollar cars, they all want that. | ||
| Find like an old Camaro, it's priceless, right? | ||
| You find a 69 Camaro that's got faded old paint, and it's unsuspecting, flies under the radar, but it's like eight, nine hundred horsepower, crazy motor, air conditioning, power windows, full chassis underneath it, a sleeper. | ||
| Yeah, well, there's something cool about that, too, because you're not worried about it getting dirty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, that's the thing about people walking up to their car with the microfiber cloth and just pawing everywhere they go. | ||
| It's like, come on, man. | ||
| I've only built patina cars because I can't stand wiping down my own stuff after dealing with customer cars. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| So your personal cars are all patina cars? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Really? | ||
| What do you got? | ||
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Yeah, me too. | |
| 77 C10. He's got a 76. Here's a 77 as well. | ||
| His is lifted. | ||
| Mine's lowered. | ||
| We're doing a 70 Trans Am. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Trans Ams were a car. | ||
| The Burt Reynolds days, those were a car that still kind of holds up. | ||
| Yeah, this is a little pre, this is pre-Burt Reynolds. | ||
| This is the 70. Oh, those look great. | ||
| That's an ass-kicker, dude. | ||
| You talk about, like, you know, that falls right in line with your Camaro. | ||
| Yeah, let me see a 70 Trans Ams. | ||
| 70s, white with the blue stripe, and it's a rare, rare car, because that's another one. | ||
| It was original paint. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a dope car. | ||
| Yeah, there's something about the Hood Scoop and those cars that just like, especially the Burt Reynolds ones. | ||
| Have a lot of people done like resto mods on those? | ||
| Yeah, the Burt Reynolds, that's one of those things where it's like that. | ||
| Jesus Christ, what is that thing? | ||
| Yeah, it's a wild race car thing. | ||
| It's one of your SEMA kind of builds. | ||
| But the Burt Reynolds one, so many people have done that. | ||
| That's a car, the 70, that's a car that proves you can buy cool. | ||
| Because you buy that, I don't care who the fuck you are. | ||
| You're driving that, you're a bad motherfucker. | ||
| That's a cool car. | ||
| It's a cool car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those old trucks lend themselves to that patina look, don't they? | ||
| They do. | ||
| So I drive a 77. It's a 4x4. | ||
| It's one of those Legend trucks. | ||
| That's the only... | ||
| Do you have a picture of it? | ||
| It's on the website. | ||
| Well, if you just Google Roadster Shop Legend 77 truck, there's a bunch of articles and stuff on it, but that's what I daily drive. | ||
| Yeah, that tan one that's shredding the... | ||
| Blue one's mine, tan one's his. | ||
| Where's the tan one? | ||
| The upper left? | ||
| Yeah, down there. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's it, just getting after it. | ||
| So what's that got in it? | ||
| That's a 650 horse supercharged LT4, but it's all like independent front suspension, push button four-wheel drive. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Yeah, I leave it outside. | ||
| I don't park it in the garage because my kids' toys are all filling up one half of the garage, and that's my daily transportation. | ||
| Wow, that's a sleeper, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, that thing just wrecks dudes. | ||
| I drive a lot of cool, fast shit where it's flogging customer cars, but that truck, it's like, anytime I drive it, there's some dude in a C8 or some badass muscle car, and I just... | ||
| Ruin their day. | ||
| Constantly in that fucker. | ||
| Put it in four-wheel drive and smoke them off the line. | ||
| Well, it's probably pretty light. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| Yeah, it's like probably four... | ||
| A little over 4,000 pounds. | ||
| For a big-ass truck, that's pretty light. | ||
| That thing screams... | ||
| That's like a modern Mustang, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're right in line with any of that stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is pretty crazy with 650 horsepower. | ||
| And it's a truck. | ||
| It's essentially like a 2018-2019 Chevy truck that's got all the new Chevy suspension under it. | ||
| The independent front and the live axle. | ||
| And, I mean, it's got... | ||
| The radiator module, the cooling stack. | ||
| I mean, under the hood and underneath is like a brand new Chevy truck. | ||
| Does it handle like a brand new Chevy truck? | ||
| It handles like a brand new truck, dude. | ||
| Yeah, 100 miles an hour down the highway, one hand on the wheel. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's something cool about that, like you talked about the Patino and the thing. | ||
| We've got so many of these customers. | ||
| We're building... | ||
| I don't know a dozen of these things right now for guys that we built other cars for, but it's like an old pair of boots or an old pair of jeans that you can't buy a new pair that would fit like that, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| Your favorite. | ||
| So you're finding these, like we got one that's like a Northwestern, like Oregon or Washington state park truck, right? | ||
| It was that green, and that thing had, what, 20-something thousand original miles on it, original paint. | ||
| It was a cream puff. | ||
| The interior's cool, and then another guy's finding one, he's like... | ||
| Well, that's Matt, Matt Saxon. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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The Chevelle. | |
| The 70's Chevelle from. | ||
| That's his. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he sent me pictures of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty dope. | ||
| You're still able to build a one-off car that can't be duplicated because you're finding something super unique and original that Mother Nature weathered for you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then have something that nobody else can have. | ||
| And you're finding stuff that came from fire departments or old ranches. | ||
| I mean, guys are searching all... | ||
| Because you want that little bit of that story of, like, nobody's going to recreate this truck that... | ||
| Yeah, there's my car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ooh, baby. | ||
| Look at that fucking thing, son. | ||
| What a sexy car. | ||
| I never get tired of looking at that one. | ||
| Well, I told you guys a story about why I was infatuated with that car. | ||
| When I was 16 years old, my friend picked me up in one. | ||
| His buddy was driving, it was his car, and I remember being in the car thinking, how can someone own this? | ||
| How is it possible that this could be, like, you could have this? | ||
| Someone can have this? | ||
| This is insane! | ||
| Because it was so cool! | ||
| Same exact, for me, I guess it was 82? | ||
| 83? | ||
| Somewhere around there? | ||
| 16? | ||
| Yeah, it was 83. Yeah, and I remember just thinking, this is the most insane thing. | ||
| I can't believe a person could own this car. | ||
| It was just so cool. | ||
| And he ran out of gas. | ||
| It was really funny. | ||
| And coasted right into the gas station and stopped, like, right at the pump. | ||
| I'm like, this is the coolest car that's ever lived. | ||
| He has a Chevelle, he runs out of gas at the perfect time on a hill and coasts into the fucking gas station. | ||
| Like, literally, we were laughing. | ||
| Like, filled the gas tank up. | ||
| Like, right there. | ||
| Well, the Chevelle, the Camaro, and now the Cuda are three very similar, yet completely different vehicles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In all ways. | ||
| But you... | ||
| Each one of them has their place, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You feel different driving the Chevelle. | ||
| It's a different state of mind. | ||
| You feel like fucking Wooderson. | ||
| You feel like Matthew McConaughey. | ||
| Are you friends with anybody? | ||
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Has he seen it? | |
| No, he hasn't seen it. | ||
| I told him I have it though. | ||
| Shaped my career like a movie and that car and then here that's why that car exists is Because of him and Matt came to us to build one we're like it's but it's going black and white dude hundred percent That's this is what you're getting black and white is the best look there's cools I've seen some cool ones that are silver with black stripes That's a pretty good second, but number one is black with white stripes for that car There's other ones like the red with white stripes. | ||
| It's not as tough. | ||
| Red with black stripes. | ||
| What was that movie, Reacher? | ||
| You had a red with black stripes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| No, not as cool as Wooderson, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's just sometimes with a certain shape. | ||
| That color, just like color combinations are just iconic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, that car, the body lines in the side of it, it's got these like, you know, cool little hips and eyebrows and the body lines and the black makes it pop. | ||
| Yeah, it's just, again, that era where they just figured some shit out. | ||
| That wacky dude in his crazy suits. | ||
| How do you pick that? | ||
| Like, you got the Chevelle sitting there and the Camaro sitting there. | ||
| What frame of mind are you? | ||
| And you're like, I'm taking the Chevelle. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What's the decision process? | ||
| The Chevelle's the loudest and least civilized out of all the cars. | ||
| It's the most rowdy because it's got that 454 in it, you know, naturally aspirated. | ||
| It sounds insane. | ||
| And it's so, like, the interior of it looks exactly like, except for the dash, it looks exactly like the original car. | ||
| It's much more of a throwback, you know? | ||
| It's like asking what album you're going to listen to. | ||
| It's like what mood. | ||
| Well, that's what I was getting at. | ||
| That one's my favorite. | ||
| Matt would send it back to the shop when we were doing road tours or something and we'd do the basic service work and then ship it to wherever he was going and get in and just rip first, second, third in that car and it was just smile ear to ear. | ||
| I'm like, fuck yeah, this is why we do this shit. | ||
| You did that because you're rolling that fucker through the high schools trying to pick up them high school girls, man. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| Did you have to roll your sleeves up or did it do it automatically when you got it? | ||
| It did automatically when it came in, yeah. | ||
| Hair kind of grew out a little bit longer. | ||
| Yeah, that look of the rolled with the cigarette in the upper sleeve. | ||
| Where'd that go? | ||
| That went away. | ||
| It did. | ||
| That's probably a blessing. | ||
| That was like a cool look for guys for a while. | ||
| They would roll a pack of cigarettes up in their sleeve. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| I think you should bring it back. | ||
| I've never, I've unfortunately never done it. | ||
| There it is! | ||
| The cigarettes in the sleeve, look at them! | ||
| Alright, alright, alright. | ||
| I don't know why they ever did that. | ||
| I wasn't around for that era. | ||
| You'd think you'd have pockets. | ||
| The jeans were too tight for the pockets. | ||
| I think people were just weird back then. | ||
| They were just lost. | ||
| Just showing everybody off that they smoked. | ||
| They had no internet. | ||
| They didn't know what to do. | ||
| They were just trying to imitate cool people. | ||
| They didn't know what to do. | ||
| It's the beginning of modern culture. | ||
| Yeah, that's as cool as it gets for me right there. | ||
| What's left on the bucket list for cars? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just enjoying what I got right now. | ||
| That's how I'm kind of doing it. | ||
| It's like, come on. | ||
| I got a lot of cars. | ||
| It's a lot to look after. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's stressful, isn't it? | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| Being poor is stressful. | ||
| Looking after cars is just a thing. | ||
| It's just a thing that you do. | ||
| It's not stressful. | ||
| It's just a thing, you know? | ||
| You got to do things. | ||
| Yeah, I accumulate too much crap and it stresses me out, you know? | ||
| It can, if you let it fuck with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's like hoarders, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I suppose. | ||
| That's the ultimate example of it. | ||
| You're not there yet. | ||
| Yeah, look at all this shit going on fucking eBay now. | ||
| All these people that, I mean, even just like iPhone, iPhone 1 is going for big fucking money, and like all these electronics that nobody, like those Nokia phones that were bulletproof or whatever are going for big fucking money on the internet. | ||
| All this shit from our era that we threw out in fucking shoeboxes or it was in the kitchen drawer and shit. | ||
| How much are people paying for iPhone 1s? | ||
| iPhone 1s are going for big money. | ||
| $60,000. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| You can find one in a package still. | ||
| What do you do with it? | ||
| Just put it on your shelf? | ||
| Yeah, that's the big problem. | ||
| How weird is that? | ||
| How weird is that? | ||
| Someone would give you $60,000 for a phone that sucks. | ||
| Last week they were talking, this is on the news or whatever, this is all dumb, useless knowledge, but they were selling the iPhone. | ||
| If you had an iPhone that hadn't been updated, it still had the Twitter logo and not the new X logo. | ||
| They were selling those for big money. | ||
| I swear. | ||
| But it'll automatically upload if you get on Twitter. | ||
| I guess if you've got a broke phone, it won't automatically upload. | ||
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Then all your apps will suck. | |
| Who's going to spend big money for a phone just because it's still got the old Twitter logo? | ||
| Dorks. | ||
| The same kind of people that have felt rotors in their cars. | ||
| There's dorks out there. | ||
| People like weird shit. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| When Post Malone was on here, he told me he paid $2 million for a Magic the Gathering card. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| That's a bit much. | ||
| Seems like a little pricey. | ||
| It's a little nerdier than I thought he was. | ||
| Oh, he loves that shit. | ||
| Yeah, when I was hanging out with him backstage after a show, he's like, we're gonna go play Magic the Gathering. | ||
| You want to come? | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
| But dude, that's... | ||
| If you guys have a good time, go to sleep. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| Like, I remember the Magic the Gathering kids in high school and you're fucking with them, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But now they're cool. | ||
| They grow up to be Post Malone. | ||
| Like, who's fucking laughing at Post Malone? | ||
| Most of them do not. | ||
| The vast majority do not grow up to be Post Malone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, he's into it. | ||
| I mean, who knows why people are into it? | ||
| He's into muscle cars, too. | ||
| He's got a crazy Hennessy six-wheel Raptor. | ||
| It's like a velociraptor with the four wheels in the back. | ||
| Man, that's definitely a statement piece, I guess is the polite way of putting that. | ||
| I just don't understand that car. | ||
| Would you drive one of this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I had one, I'd drive it. | ||
| Would you have one? | ||
| I have a Hennessy. | ||
| I have a TRX. Yeah, I have a 1,000 horsepower TRX. It's ridiculous. | ||
| The six wheel, though, always just seems like it's the Eastern European villain from one of the Fast and Furious franchise movies. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| From Despicable Me. | ||
| It's Gru's car. | ||
| It's just a little, yeah. | ||
| He says he can't park it. | ||
| He says he goes to Applebee's and it sticks out. | ||
| And he feels bad because it's like fucking jutting into the next park. | ||
| Him going to Applebee's is the punchline of that story. | ||
| He loves Applebee's. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, Post loves Applebee's. | ||
| Damn, does he get the sampler over there? | ||
| Dude, the sampler fucks at Applebee's. | ||
| I'm with him, dude. | ||
| Applebee's has some fans. | ||
| Comfort food. | ||
| The Jack Daniel's barbecue. | ||
| That was TGI Friday. | ||
| You're confusing your shitty restaurants. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| What's a thousand horsepower in a TRX? It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's so fast. | ||
| You use the power and all you get on it? | ||
| I mean, you kind of do. | ||
| What it does, it just does normal acceleration much quicker. | ||
| Post has a black one, I think. | ||
| I was like, Is it white? | ||
| Oh, yep, that's it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I saw... | ||
| Oh, with the photo that we showed of his the other day was a black one. | ||
| It must not have been his. | ||
| Unless he got a new one. | ||
| But yeah, he's... | ||
| He's a wild fella. | ||
| I'm not gonna say shit. | ||
| He's into some cool shit. | ||
| Cool fucking dude. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Fucking get whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| That's gotta be a heavy-ass truck, too. | ||
| That's a lot of weight. | ||
| That's a lot of, that's just a lot of thinking. | ||
| A lot of things. | ||
| A lot of things going on. | ||
| To be honest with you, Josh has a Raptor. | ||
| I could see you modding that thing out, adding a second set of wheels to it. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| That's kind of your style, a little bit. | ||
| They like to fuck with me all the time. | ||
| Fucking parking that thing fucking long ways in front of the shop in the morning. | ||
| Dude, you could put the Doberman in the front seat of that. | ||
| It does seem like a waste of time. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Why not put two in the front, too? | ||
| How about three in the front? | ||
| How about five in the back? | ||
| Six-wheel raptor, I've got a mini giraffe. | ||
| I'm not fucking with a Doberman at that point. | ||
| I'm just doing a mini giraffe. | ||
| Yeah, just a giraffe with his head out the window. | ||
| Not knowing what the fuck's going on. | ||
| Have you guys ever had someone come to you with a project and you're like, I don't want to do this. | ||
| You know, things have changed over the years. | ||
| I'll say that. | ||
| I'm sure it's similar to your career. | ||
| Like when you got first started, young Joe Rogan, like somebody came to you for some TV show thing or something. | ||
| You're like, yeah, sure, I'll do that. | ||
| In our youth, early days, we painted a fucking car like a lobster for a guy. | ||
| Dude, it's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't think we were going there. | ||
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Like with claws and stuff? | |
| No, the whole car. | ||
| I don't have any shame. | ||
| I'll disclose it, right? | ||
| It was like 19... | ||
| 40-30-something Hollywood Graham that somebody hot-rodded and he's in the seafood business so he wanted it painted like a lobster. | ||
| So we legitimately took this thing and airbrushed everything. | ||
| It looks like a fucking lobster. | ||
| Is it online? | ||
| I don't think we put that on the website. | ||
| We kept that off. | ||
| Just because you worried someone else would ask for something? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I want mine to be a clam. | ||
| Yeah, it's out there somewhere. | ||
| No, I mean, where we're at now, you know, we've got such a massive backlog of work that you can... | ||
| Yeah, I don't want to do something that... | ||
| You want to be a little passionate about it, right? | ||
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Sure. | |
| So if it totally sucks, yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We'll kind of politely decline that's just not really for us. | ||
| Most of the customers that are coming that are legit and they want something built, they're coming because they're fans or they're followers. | ||
| They, again, like artists, not to put ourselves on anything, but... | ||
| They've seen the work you've done previously, and they're like, I want a Roadster Shop version of whatever. | ||
| Do your thing. | ||
| Fucking A. You've been great about that. | ||
| I fucking want a Chevelle. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| The bad part is when it's a video that launches or anything that goes up, you get a massive influx of customer emails. | ||
| Phil has to usually deal with those. | ||
| And it's the ones that, unfortunately, you have to get back to everybody, treat everybody like the same. | ||
| But if it's a... | ||
| I've got a 92 Corsica, and I want to do it rear-wheel drive with an LS. How much would that cost? | ||
| Well, we all know that that's probably not... | ||
| If you had the money to build the Corsica, you wouldn't own a Corsica. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You would have something else. | ||
| You'd be calling about a Camaro or something like that. | ||
| Unless you're an eccentric rich dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| None of those have paid off. | ||
| No, it's not Corsicas. | ||
| I don't even remember what a Corsica looks like. | ||
| It's like the... | ||
| Remember the shitty front-wheel drive GM cars that were like... | ||
| Have you had anybody come to you and say they want to build something like this up? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It happens all the fucking time. | ||
| It's ten a week. | ||
| Constantly. | ||
| Emails. | ||
| Basically to change anything from what it is. | ||
| If it's front-wheel drive, they want to make it rear-wheel drive. | ||
| If it's rear-wheel drive, let's make it front-wheel drive. | ||
| Let's make it all-wheel drive. | ||
| Let's make it EV. Right now the EV thing is stupid. | ||
| Let's EV everything because, or... | ||
| Unevy it. | ||
| I've got a Tesla, let's put an LS in it. | ||
| You know, I know Rich Benoit did a lot of stuff there. | ||
| But it's always, I just, these guys just want to fuck with shit. | ||
| Let's just, let's do something that wasn't done. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And it's not about because it's cool, or let's make something beautiful, let's make it usable, let's just fuck with it. | ||
| So do you guys have like a large backlog now of people that want to do projects? | ||
| We do, yeah. | ||
| I mean, on the car build side, we probably, at any given point, we're working on 30-ish projects. | ||
| And it's, I mean, it's a couple years to get something going. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| But the bulk of our business, our focus is the chassis manufacturing. | ||
| So, you know, we build, I mean, over a thousand performance chassis a year. | ||
| And that's the fun one where you can take on those projects like that. | ||
| Like, dude calls, there's a Bricklin kit car that was just in the shop. | ||
| We've got donks that come through there and step vans, delivery vans, like crazy stuff. | ||
| Fire truck. | ||
| Somebody else is going to spend, we'll build the chassis. | ||
| Somebody else is going to take it from there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Another shop's doing it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what a Bricklin looks like? | ||
| You'd look good in a Bricklin. | ||
| What's a Bricklin? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| It's a 72 Bricklin? | ||
| It was a kit car from the 70s. | ||
| SV or whatever? | ||
| SV. Put them on a Corvette chassis. | ||
| Big dull wing doors. | ||
| Oh god. | ||
| For drug dealers. | ||
| There were four guys that played Magic the Gathering kind of car guys. | ||
| No, these would be successful hobby shop. | ||
| Oh god, look at that thing. | ||
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Successful hobby shop owner is perfect. | |
| Successful hobby shop owner is hilarious. | ||
| That's a hilarious description. | ||
| Wow, what a gross piece of shit. | ||
| That thing's awful. | ||
| That thing's awful. | ||
| They have a cult following. | ||
| The shop that's building it and the customer, they've got a vision. | ||
| They're going to take that and modernize and do a bunch of crazy cool shit. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| I've seen people do stuff like that with Ford F40s. | ||
| I've seen them do stuff like that. | ||
| It's pretty interesting. | ||
| You know, like, mod them and wide-body them, and that car's tiny. | ||
| That's a tiny little car. | ||
| On which car? | ||
| The Ford, like, the original Ford GT. The original one, not the 2005 one. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| Not F40. What is it called? | ||
| GT40. GT40. That's a sick car. | ||
| Sick car. | ||
| But a lot of people have done things to those, like taken them and, like, extremely modded them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And put twin-turbo engines in them and wide-bodied them and shit. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, Superformance brought those back, so they made it available. | ||
| Because you get, like, an exact reproduction of that car. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| They're starting with kit cars to do that. | ||
| The original ones are worth millions. | ||
| Who does that? | ||
| Superformance. | ||
| They do a ton of them. | ||
| Sue? | ||
| S-U-E? S-U-P-E-R. Super. | ||
| Oh, Superformance. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah, they do a lot of the Cobras and stuff. | ||
| They're fucking badass. | ||
| It's a nicely built piece, but that's a car you don't need that kind of power in. | ||
| I mean, that thing's, like, this big. | ||
| Yeah, they're so tiny. | ||
| That's why it's crazy that people are putting twin turbocharged 1,000 horsepower engines in them. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
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Wow! | |
| That'd be along the lines of the Porsche you're talking about. | ||
| Just analog. | ||
| Holy shit, look at that thing. | ||
| Yeah, they do a good job. | ||
| So they build a brand new one? | ||
| It's brand new, built exactly like the original car was built, except the body's not aluminum. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's Shelby license. | ||
| It goes in the register, too. | ||
| Is it all modern suspension? | ||
| It's an exact duplicate of what was there. | ||
| So it drives like the original car? | ||
| Yeah, I think they got like a ZF transaxle in them or something like that, which would be like a Pantera kind of transaxle. | ||
| Modernized coilovers and brakes, but that's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So just some suspension components. | ||
| Little mild upgrades. | ||
| And same horsepower as they do in modern motors. | ||
| Yeah, you can put whatever you want in them. | ||
| But that's a good example. | ||
| That's like the Porsche example. | ||
| Like, put 500 horsepower in that, that thing's going to be a thrill. | ||
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Right. | |
| Just an absolute blast to drive. | ||
| Yeah, and if you went too much, it'd probably be unmanageable, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially mid-engine like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's interesting how mid-engine cars... | ||
| In America, all we have is the Corvette, right? | ||
| That's what we've got now. | ||
| I mean, now you get the Corvette and you got the new GT, which isn't exactly as mainstream as the C8. Yeah, and I have the old GT. I have a 2005. That's a rad car. | ||
| It's a rad car. | ||
| But there's only a few of those, right? | ||
| But as far as production cars, the Corvette is the first time America has made a mass production car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've never gravitated to the newer Vets, have you? | ||
| I don't like the automatic. | ||
| If they had a stick, I'd buy one. | ||
| They just don't do that anymore, for whatever reason. | ||
| I just think they're missing out on what's fun about driving a car. | ||
| It's like Porsche still gets it. | ||
| Mustang still gets it. | ||
| But they don't get it when you get up to like the GT500. That was the old thing about the old GT500. You could only get it in a stick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I had like a 2011 or something like that. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| That was a scary car. | ||
| I've driven a couple of those. | ||
| Oh, fucking great. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| It was way before trash control or anything like that. | ||
| That thing was just... | ||
| It was super squirrely. | ||
| Super squirrely, like around corners and shit, but it was fun. | ||
| You knew what it would do. | ||
| But it was also just a thrill to drive, the rumble. | ||
| It was very old-school muscle car-esque, but with a new look to it. | ||
| But it didn't handle like a great handling car. | ||
| It had a solid rear axle and just overpowered. | ||
| Besides the Tesla, what's the fastest car you've owned? | ||
| The Tesla's the fastest by far. | ||
| By far and above all the other ones. | ||
| It just buries them all. | ||
| But I have a 911 GT3 RS from Shark Works. | ||
| And that's a 2007. It has like 518 horsepower. | ||
| It sounds like a dragon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That thing's pretty fucking fast. | ||
| And the handling on the thing is extraordinary. | ||
| Yeah, it's so good. | ||
| It's so thrilling. | ||
| You feel everything in that car, and it's so capable. | ||
| That was a great car. | ||
| Those are good wheelbase. | ||
| Like, square, short, everything. | ||
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Super light. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And you get used to that ass end, that power coming out of that right behind you. | ||
| You know, it's very intoxicating. | ||
| It's a totally different feel in the handling where the balance is of the car. | ||
| Isn't that like a... | ||
| When that thing slides out, isn't it kind of like a narrow window before it's gone? | ||
| Yeah, it's tricky for sure. | ||
| You gotta know what you're doing. | ||
| You know, you can't just stomp on the gas when it's sliding, you know? | ||
| You're not Chris Harris. | ||
| You know, just be careful. | ||
| Don't do anything stupid. | ||
| What's that Cuda feel like pushing it through those same, you got some killer windy roads by you. | ||
| What's that Cuda feel like compared to some of those? | ||
| It handles really, really well. | ||
| It's big, right? | ||
| It's a big car, so it's a little different. | ||
| It's a different kind of experience. | ||
| But it handles so well, because when you're describing the balance of it with the rear transaxle, that totally makes sense to me, because you feel that while you're driving it. | ||
| It's like really balanced. | ||
| You know, and it's just glued to the road, too. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Kids or wife into them at all? | ||
| They give a shit. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Don't like them at all. | ||
| My kids do. | ||
| Sometimes they think it's fun. | ||
| But my wife thinks they're just loud and noisy. | ||
| She thinks they look pretty. | ||
| They look pretty, but they're just loud and noisy. | ||
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Damn. | |
| What about your family? | ||
| Do they get sick of them? | ||
| My son's, my daughter's in college. | ||
| She's always been kind of into cool shit. | ||
| But my son, he didn't care nothing about anything car related until he was 15. And then now it's, it's all it is. | ||
| But again, he's, I mean, you know, we've met him and Conor McGregor's still his idol, you know, and he wants to live the Conor life. | ||
| He wants to be on the yacht. | ||
| It's difficult to live the Conor life on a 16-year-old budget. | ||
| It's difficult to do it on a Conor budget. | ||
| That guy has to keep making tons of money. | ||
| That lifestyle is crazy. | ||
| But he's into it. | ||
| We've been fixing up a little Audi coupe for him. | ||
| He's into it. | ||
| And then their kids are both younger. | ||
| Both their sons are full blown. | ||
| My son's a nut with that stuff. | ||
| He drove with me and your Cuda out to Columbus, Ohio. | ||
| We were kind of shaking that thing down. | ||
| At 12 years old, he knows more about that car and just cars in general than just about anybody you know. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| He's into it. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's, you know, it's fun. | ||
| It just speaks to people. | ||
| Yeah, for him, for being a kid, I mean, that's what's cooler than that. | ||
| Like, if, you know, you look like kids are playing with Matchbox cars and, like, his dad's building the real ones. | ||
| Like, full scale. | ||
| Do you think we're ever going to come to a time in this country where internal combustion engines are outlawed? | ||
| I don't think so, man. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I think you're going to see that, like, come full circle. | ||
| Just in my opinion. | ||
| I'll... | ||
| Outlawed or gone away because alcohol was outlawed as once as well. | ||
| Take California out of the equation, though. | ||
| But that's what they're doing. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You can't buy new internal combustion engines after 2035. And I think this is like 20-something other states fixing to adopt it the same way because you can do it without a vote. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| They did it without a vote. | ||
| I don't think it makes sense. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I don't think there's enough minerals in the ground. | ||
| Just the mining alone that would have to happen and the reality of what happens in that mining. | ||
| People need to understand what they're talking about. | ||
| They're talking about batteries. | ||
| This idea that batteries just come from ferries and that now all of a sudden you have this zero carbon impact vehicle. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| That's complete, total nonsense. | ||
| You're ignoring the entire supply chain. | ||
| What is with people that they won't recognize, that they don't want to recognize that? | ||
| Some people didn't know about it until I had this guy on my podcast, Siddharth Kara, who wrote a book about it. | ||
| And he went to the Congo to show these illegal mines, like what they're doing. | ||
| I mean, it's not illegal. | ||
| There's no law, right? | ||
| But they have children working in these mines. | ||
| They have women working in these mines with babies on their back. | ||
| And they're mining toxic cobalt. | ||
| And this stuff is... | ||
| I mean, there's no protection. | ||
| There's no safety. | ||
| These people are like chipping this shit out of the ground. | ||
| And that's a good percentage of all the cobalt that's involved in electronics and batteries and cell phones and all the things that we need. | ||
| And it's not very publicized. | ||
| This man exposed it and he risked his life to do it. | ||
| And he wrote a great book about it. | ||
| And the podcast was... | ||
| It was insane, listening to his story and how he risked his life to get this footage. | ||
| There were several times where there was men with guns and he got questioned and he had a bunch of people that were helping him. | ||
| He got out of there, eventually, with this reality that everybody now is faced with. | ||
| It's like, this is how they get the stuff that you need to run your cell phone. | ||
| Stop thinking that you have zero impact. | ||
| If you're buying this, you're contributing to this. | ||
| We all are. | ||
| And we don't want to keep our fucking heads buried in the ground and pretend it's not happening. | ||
| And to say that... | ||
| Everything has to be electronic. | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| Where is this coming from? | ||
| Who's making it? | ||
| What are the conditions like in the places where these people have to put your phone together? | ||
| What are the conditions like? | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| Foxconn has nets around the building because people are jumping off. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, where they make iPhones. | ||
| They put nets around the building because so many people are committing suicide. | ||
| They run right off the windows. | ||
| They're working constantly. | ||
| They work constantly. | ||
| They sleep there. | ||
| They had beds underneath their desks or their work areas. | ||
| Sleep underneath, work, sleep, work. | ||
| Show the photo of the nets around Fox. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| They're nets all around the building. | ||
| I hope our employees are listening. | ||
| It could be worse. | ||
| You know how wild that is? | ||
| Like, if you're going to jump off a building, you can't do it here. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Or if you do, you better have good aim. | ||
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| You've got to aim for where there's no net. | ||
| How do you explain that to people, like, when you're walking executives into the building? | ||
| We've had a huge bird problem. | ||
| We've had a huge bird problem. | ||
| You know how crazy that is? | ||
| You've had so many people commit suicide, and your solution is putting nets around the building. | ||
| Those people just go up to the top floor, fuck this. | ||
| Bang! | ||
| I want it to be over. | ||
| Just lock them like all the casinos do. | ||
| Just lock the windows. | ||
| You gotta get to the roof to do maintenance. | ||
| There's just gotta be better representation of both sides so that people understand. | ||
| Well, really, we should be making phones in America. | ||
| And they should be American-made with American wages where people get health and dental and all the stuff you're supposed to get. | ||
| And you have a living wage. | ||
| That's what it's supposed to be. | ||
| And if your phone costs a little more to do that, And if Apple makes a little less, that's how it's supposed to be. | ||
| You're not supposed to be using slave labor to do stuff. | ||
| And, you know, we don't have an ethical choice. | ||
| It's not like if you want to be a part of today's society, you kind of have to have a smartphone if you're answering emails and doing business. | ||
| It's way more convenient to do that than not have one. | ||
| And there's not this very obvious ethical choice. | ||
| Like, hey, this company only uses high-paid labor. | ||
| Everybody has insurance. | ||
| There's none of that. | ||
| They only work X amount of hours a day. | ||
| There's none of that. | ||
| You get these things, and they're all manufactured overseas. | ||
| Is it 2030 is the year? | ||
| Is that what California's law is? | ||
| I think it's 2035. Yeah. | ||
| If they were to do that and say it was nationwide, right? | ||
| And no new cars after 2035 can be... | ||
| But they don't touch... | ||
| I mean, obviously, you're not going to be able to do anything with what's existing. | ||
| Any of the ICE motors that are out there that exist. | ||
| It's going to be like Judge Dredd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine what the cost of a 2020 F-150 would be worth then. | ||
| Would it be more desirable or less desirable? | ||
| I mean, I would assume that at least 50-something percent of the population is going to be like, fuck that. | ||
| I'm never going that. | ||
| I'm going to keep buying my gas motors, right? | ||
| Well, the thing that always is going to be an issue with cars is charging them. | ||
| It takes time, right? | ||
| So you have to sit there. | ||
| So if you're fully out of juice and you're on a cross-country trip, how long does it take when you go to those supercharger stations to get you up to 100% again? | ||
| How long is that? | ||
| Is it a few hours? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Longer than you want to be sitting there? | ||
| Yeah, so with rising crime and having places where you know people are going to be stuck and no security. | ||
| Especially in places like LA, good luck with that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| My friend Eddie was telling a story the other day about he almost got robbed at a gas station. | ||
| And he realized these guys were coming towards him and he got out just in time. | ||
| He's like, you know how you've been in your car so many times that you can just... | ||
| You know where everything is instantly. | ||
| You don't have to fumble. | ||
| He's as if that's what saved me. | ||
| That I just jumped in my car and I knew how to... | ||
| And I was just moving already. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| The guy was moving towards him. | ||
| Dude, that's a little bit like the net scenario, though. | ||
| Like, what's the problem that we're not solving? | ||
| Like, why the fuck are there nets? | ||
| Why are you afraid to go sit there and charge your car at the gas station? | ||
| Because you're going to get fucking robbed for sitting there for an hour. | ||
| Is nobody looking at airline travel and the way planes are made, doing anything away with... | ||
| Doing electric motors on that kind of shit. | ||
| There's a concept that's currently being developed for a solar-powered plane. | ||
| I talked to a guy about it like over a year ago, and they were explaining it. | ||
| I think they've done a bunch of test flights, and it's going to be able to go a long way. | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
| I don't know how that works. | ||
| I don't know how much range does it have, how safe is it. | ||
| You know, you don't want to be an early adopter. | ||
| Not when you're in the sky. | ||
| Like flying cars. | ||
| Like, you see flying cars, like, yeah, I'm going to sit that out. | ||
| Yeah, give it 10 years. | ||
| Keep an eye on it, you know? | ||
| How many douchebags are going to fly into power lines? | ||
| How many people are going to fly into trees and start forest fires? | ||
| I think that when they announced that in California, it wasn't like the next day they also had an announcement for people to stop charging their cars because it was like a week later. | ||
| What a fucking fail. | ||
| Please don't charge! | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| It was too hot and it maxed out the grid. | ||
| If everybody had an electric car, the strain on the grid would be monumental. | ||
| I don't know if most grids, the way they're set up right now, would be able to handle that. | ||
| Like, if everybody had an electric car, wouldn't that take, like, substantial upgrades to the grid? | ||
| Yeah, dude, it's just infrastructure, Joe. | ||
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| I like how you're saying it. | ||
| Like, it makes sense. | ||
| You're so confident. | ||
| Do you think they're worried about all of that stuff, or they know that it's impossible? | ||
| That's why you push it out to a... | ||
| It just looks really good on the ballot. | ||
| It does look really good on the ballot. | ||
| That's part of the problem. | ||
| A lot of people have these knee-jerk reactions to very complex, nuanced problems, like the environment. | ||
| I had Mike Baker on yesterday, and we talked about this. | ||
| And one of the things he was saying, the vast majority of the pollution, the carbon emissions in the world, is coming from China and India. | ||
| That's the vast majority of it. | ||
| And they're not going to change. | ||
| They're not going to change what they do. | ||
| No matter what we do, we're not going to put a dent in what they're doing. | ||
| And there's a bunch of people that think that the way to get us out of this and the way to mitigate climate change in terms of human impact on it is actually... | ||
| To build up poor communities and get them on the electrical system, get nuclear power to these places or so or something and like elevate their standard of life. | ||
| You'll have less pollution. | ||
| You'll have less – you'll definitely have less issues in terms of like health consequences of the people that live there. | ||
| In turn, as they become more sustainable, they live a better life, their lifestyle is better, you'll have less pollution. | ||
| People need to be incentivized. | ||
| They need to have some sort of... | ||
| There's places in the world that have no hope and they just burn tires. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| They're not thinking about the environment. | ||
| They're thinking about, how do I get by? | ||
| How do I stay alive? | ||
| Back to your point on making stuff here. | ||
| I don't know the numbers, but I'm wondering what, if you were to say, in 10 years, we're requiring 90% of every single thing we use to be made in the USA, right? | ||
| So you cut out all that air freight and all that freight line, all the shipping. | ||
| The shipping is huge. | ||
| And everyone wants to talk about providing jobs. | ||
| If we take all that shit, what does that do for the carbon footprint if we're not shipping all those freighters and we're building new shit here? | ||
| I've Googled that. | ||
| If you Google that, and granted, this is just me looking at Google, doing Google research, but look at what a container ship uses in fuel consumption. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| It's like the equivalent of every single vehicle in the United States annually. | ||
| Like, just back and forth. | ||
| It seems like a huge dent you would put in it by us making this shit here and using it here. | ||
| That would be a big dent. | ||
| That would be massive. | ||
| There's, I mean, that's obviously a long-term project, unfortunately. | ||
| Manufacturing really kind of got out of the United States when they started shipping and building cars overseas and ruined Detroit. | ||
| I mean, Detroit just fell apart. | ||
| That Roger and Me movie, you guys ever see that? | ||
| Never seen it. | ||
| Never heard of it. | ||
| You never heard of it? | ||
| It's, um, what the fuck's his name? | ||
| Jamie. | ||
| Michael Moore. | ||
| Michael Moore. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| It's a great documentary. | ||
| And it's about Flint, Michigan. | ||
| It's about right after they closed all the plants down and everybody just had nothing. | ||
| They had nothing to do. | ||
| And just like the city collapsed. | ||
| And all that happened because they wanted to make shit cheaper. | ||
| They wanted to pay people less. | ||
| And it's more profitable for them to have... | ||
| They're manufacturing plants in other countries. | ||
| Dude, it's nuts. | ||
| That was the one song for Whitey the other day. | ||
| You know Whitey Morgan? | ||
| Yeah, I've heard the name. | ||
| He was on the podcast and he did a local show and stuff like that. | ||
| He's from Flint. | ||
| And his dad and granddad worked in the auto and he has a song. | ||
| All about it? | ||
| Yeah, we were talking to him about... | ||
| Michigan, it came up because, you know, we go to shows in Michigan, and Michigan's got a very, like, southern redneck pocket, right? | ||
| Very, it's weird because of how north it is, but he talked about all the people from the south moved up there for all these auto jobs and all the wages, right? | ||
| And it just, it's that area. | ||
| But he talked about the same thing. | ||
| When they shut it down, I mean, it just killed that, specifically Flint. | ||
| That's where he's from. | ||
| It's a horrible story. | ||
| And they did that because they wanted to make more money. | ||
| Imagine knowing that you're going to just destroy thousands of people's lives, like instantly. | ||
| I'm not like, yeah, I want to make more money. | ||
| I'm not trying to put you on blast. | ||
| I really want to know. | ||
| On a normal... | ||
| I like how the kids say that these days. | ||
| Put you on blast. | ||
| Well, on a purchasing decision, when you're going to buy something, how big, how does that weigh on you knowing that it's made in America? | ||
| Well, I'd like to buy everything made in America, if it was possible. | ||
| I would like to buy everything made somewhere where people are paid fairly, right? | ||
| That's like what should be the normal ethical exchange for everything. | ||
| If you go to a restaurant, you want to know that everyone's being taken care of and paid fairly. | ||
| You go to buy a car from you guys. | ||
| You want to pay you for your work. | ||
| It's a good exchange. | ||
| That's what I think I like to think about. | ||
| And the thing that bums me out is if you're buying something that you know is made by people that are essentially slaves. | ||
| I mean, the people working in Fox, what options do they have? | ||
| Is there an option to only work eight hours a day? | ||
| No, it's probably not. | ||
| It's probably insane. | ||
| They're using young people to do it, too. | ||
| It's all fucking sketchy. | ||
| Is there any American-made electronics? | ||
| There's no American-made phones. | ||
| No, I don't believe there is. | ||
| Is there an American-made cell phone that I'm not aware of? | ||
| We've looked this up before. | ||
| Other electronics is a better question. | ||
| We're going to pivot to that. | ||
| It's going to be the freedom phone. | ||
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It's going to suck. | |
| Eagle wings. | ||
| It's going to be like an eight-year-old android. | ||
| It's going to suck. | ||
| It's going to be this big. | ||
| It's going to burn your car. | ||
| Sure, you've got to plug it in, dude. | ||
| You remember when those Samsung phones were exploding? | ||
| They're catching fire and lighting people's cars? | ||
| Can you imagine being in the head of PR for that phone call? | ||
| Hey, we've got a problem. | ||
| I remember when they were making people shut them off on planes. | ||
| You had to shut them off. | ||
| That's scary. | ||
| If you have a Samsung device, shut your phone off. | ||
| I was like, that is discrimination. | ||
| I've been boarding on a plane, and you see the shame of the people that don't want to admit it. | ||
| They're like, hey, do you have a Samsung phone? | ||
| Nobody wants to be... | ||
| Unfortunately, I've been a Samsung guy. | ||
| I'm an Android guy. | ||
| Do they still give you a hard time about it? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, they don't blow up anymore. | ||
| Everybody else does. | ||
| Yeah, you fuck it up and make it green. | ||
| Why do you want to stick with that platform? | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| People who are real rebels, they stick with that platform. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like, I mean, I like the Google integration. | ||
| Everything, Google through everything. | ||
| But yeah, I guess there is a little bit of the rebel fact. | ||
| I probably would have, if I would have gotten a shit for a while. | ||
| Honestly, I never, like, thought you were that badass until you brought that up. | ||
| That's pretty fucking wicked. | ||
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Fuck off. | |
| That's some serious rebel shit right there. | ||
| Yeah, green texts! | ||
| All my fucking texts come through green. | ||
| Fuck your blue text message. | ||
| The thing is it doesn't come through green on his phone. | ||
| I don't like having the whole everything, like Apple, iPhone, iCloud, all the stuff, like you have to have so many, everything's linked together. | ||
| It's just a fucking phone. | ||
| And if I do a Gmail, you know, it automatically, it's simple. | ||
| I'm probably simple-minded. | ||
| That's why I like it. | ||
| No, you just like it. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's two choices. | ||
| The good one and the Android. | ||
| Are the videos tiny on your phone when you look at them too? | ||
| Yeah, they fucking suck. | ||
| But my videos are great. | ||
| But why is that? | ||
| That's the dumbest thing. | ||
| But the thing is, Apple's very smart about that. | ||
| They're very smart. | ||
| With iMessage. | ||
| Because if they just allowed people to send text messages with the same... | ||
| You know, thing with iMessage where you get full-length video, like they're full-resolution, full-resolution photographs, but nope. | ||
| They compress the fuck out of that shit. | ||
| Like second-class citizens. | ||
| But if you send one to your friends with another Android phone, does it come out normal? | ||
| Yeah, it's full blast. | ||
| You don't know anybody else that has an Android phone. | ||
| Yeah, you don't even know. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| Totally guessing. | ||
| I looked at his face. | ||
| I'm like, I feel like he's lying. | ||
| You can go through the Google Share thing and it's full. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Google Share. | ||
| Remember when they tried that Google Plus? | ||
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Google Plus, we don't need other social media. | |
| That didn't work. | ||
| That's what's fascinating about social media. | ||
| People just find YouTube, for example. | ||
| You don't have a whole lot of other choices. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| They've tried, but it doesn't stick. | ||
| They just nailed it. | ||
| They figured it out, and they dominate. | ||
| But it's like so simple in a way. | ||
| It's just a place where you can upload videos, right? | ||
| But they've done it so much better than everybody else. | ||
| It's weird where, like, trying to create a new YouTube, like, ugh, good luck. | ||
| Good luck getting people... | ||
| They're so addicted to just looking on YouTube every day. | ||
| There's so much to look at. | ||
| What's the Threads deal? | ||
| It's like a version of Twitter that Facebook built. | ||
| It looks exactly like Twitter. | ||
| I think they're even getting sued. | ||
| Is Elon suing them? | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| I think I read they hired a person that worked at Twitter and they copied stuff directly. | ||
| That's what the lawsuit I think is about. | ||
| Well, that's what happens when you fire everybody. | ||
| That was an episode. | ||
| They go to work for your competitor and they know things. | ||
| I think that was in Silicon Valley, that HBO show. | ||
| It's the same shit. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Thread's user count falls to new lows, highlighting retention challenges. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| How many people are on it now? | ||
| Oh, this was even two weeks ago. | ||
| They're down 82%? | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| That's pretty typical for a new app, though. | ||
| It's hard to retain people. | ||
| Yeah, the thing is, people are so addicted to their TikTok. | ||
| They go from their TikTok to their Twitter. | ||
| It's very difficult to get people to change platforms. | ||
| You've got to get everybody to change. | ||
| I've stayed off the TikTok deal. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Maybe it's a little too youthful for me. | ||
| Dude, your dancing is fucking killer, though. | ||
| I don't watch those videos. | ||
| I just post them. | ||
| It's very addictive, I'll tell you that. | ||
| I watch people just scrolling through their TikTok all day long. | ||
| It's so addictive. | ||
| You just get constant stimulation, something, anything, dancing, motorcycle crash, this, that. | ||
| My daughter, she's in college, and she's in the sorority stuff, and that's where they live. | ||
| I mean, everything is TikTok-based. | ||
| It's all about TikTok. | ||
| And China's tracking everything they do. | ||
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Everything. | |
| All your keystrokes. | ||
| What are they doing with that? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I mean, that constantly comes up, like it's a concern, but what are they doing with it? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| As technology becomes more and more powerful, what you can do with data changes. | ||
| And if you have a massive amount of data about people's behavior, their patterns, what they're interested in, what they gravitate towards, what retains them, what doesn't retain them, and then all the stuff you're not supposed to have, like their email addresses, their fucking passwords, like... | ||
| They're keystrokes. | ||
| It can actually monitor the keystrokes that you have. | ||
| So it could be sending that data. | ||
| So it could be transcribing text messages, emails, like whatever you've got, not just on that, but also on other devices that are connected to the network. | ||
| So if you have a network and you have devices that are connected to the network and that... | ||
| LinkedIn and all that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I believe it has access to computers that don't even have TikTok on them. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's part of the user agreement. | ||
| Didn't we read all this? | ||
| See, pull it up because it's egregious. | ||
| When you read it, you're like, what? | ||
| It's so invasive. | ||
| Where do they store all the dick pics? | ||
| Imagine the servers. | ||
| Yeah, there's like a certain cloud. | ||
| I wonder if they categorize it. | ||
| Dick-heavy cloud. | ||
| It's one of them big storm clouds filled with dicks. | ||
| This is what their terms of service, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what I wanted to read is the one part that we... | ||
| I know we read it on the podcast once. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know where you read it from. | ||
| Yeah, see if you can get us... | ||
| Yeah, I did read it off my phone. | ||
| I'll pull it up. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| I know I got it in my notes. | ||
| But it's, you know, it's like data is very, very valuable. | ||
| Data is all that Facebook has. | ||
| It's all that Google has. | ||
| I mean, they have infrastructure and, you know, staff and all that stuff, but, like, the big money is in the data. | ||
| And no one even knew that that was a commodity. | ||
| Everybody just gave up their data, not ever thinking it was going to be insanely valuable for targeting people, for advertising. | ||
| Is that the biggest concern is what they can do from a financial standpoint versus like a malicious attack with that data? | ||
| I mean the the real thing is like we don't know what what it like I read something about DNA you know like one of those ancestry things where they got bought out and someone paid for For all the DNA data. | ||
| That's an interesting one. | ||
| That's a little fucked up. | ||
| See if that's real. | ||
| Because it might have been one of them things where I was scrolling through Instagram and it was like some wacky person screaming about something. | ||
| You always got to double check these. | ||
| See if that's real. | ||
| But I don't know what, I mean, as technology increases, you have to think in terms of possibilities. | ||
| Like, maybe that data is going to be even more valuable and more personal. | ||
| Like, you don't, you know, we don't know, like, what we're giving up. | ||
| Blackstone to acquire Ancestry for $4.7 billion. | ||
| Okay, but do they have access to the DNA database of all the people that's sent into Ancestry? | ||
| What do they have? | ||
| Do they buy the company, or did they acquire the database as well? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| For $4.7 billion, I'd certainly think that they got all the assets and data. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| Do they think of other people's personal DNA as an asset? | ||
| Is it listed as an asset? | ||
| Or is it just the business that does DNA testing that they bought? | ||
| Because it's a very popular business. | ||
| If I'm writing that check, I'm going to want all that. | ||
| Right, but I mean, I'm wondering if you can sell that. | ||
| Like, when people give up, when they send it in, right, when they get their DNA test done, are you giving up your rights to that information? | ||
| I wonder if you sign any waiver, when you scroll all the way bottom in terms and conditions, you're just like, yeah, fuck it. | ||
| You're not reading the 48 pages? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're like, hey, we're going to sell one day, and all that shit goes with it. | ||
| That's the scariest conversation about bioweapons, that they can make a bioweapon specifically targeted for you. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| If they knew your DNA. You talk about the TikTok and China having all that shit. | ||
| You have something like a January 6th that happens, right? | ||
| And all the red tape to get all of the... | ||
| Geo data from Facebook and everybody else is like, fuck you, we're not giving you shit. | ||
| You think they can get anything, if there's any backdoor deals like, hey, we need the U.S. government working with China to get any of that shit, if something were to happen like that? | ||
| They have that kind of relationship to get it in backdoor channels? | ||
| Like the U.S. would get the information from China? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if China would have to admit they're taking it. | ||
| And I think there's been, like, real dispute as to, like, with TikTok in particular, like, where the data goes. | ||
| I can't get this pop-up to stop. | ||
| What is it saying? | ||
| China is the world's biggest face recognition dealer. | ||
| And then it says in the sub-headline that the U.S. is the second largest exporter. | ||
| Exporter. | ||
| There's a video I'm trying to find of what's happening. | ||
| The video was made as though this is what's happening in China right now, showing the surveillance. | ||
| It's taking facial recognition and showing you driving down the freeway in cars and tagging the license plates and all that stuff. | ||
| How or why that's happening is a big question. | ||
| Well, they just want people to know that they're being tracked everywhere you go. | ||
| Then you'll self-censor. | ||
| Then you'll stay in line. | ||
| You won't do anything. | ||
| And in China, what's really scary is the places that have everything connected to a social credit score. | ||
| So you have a centralized digital currency, and then you have a social credit score. | ||
| And if your social credit score is too low, you can't do things. | ||
| You can't buy things. | ||
| You can't buy a car. | ||
| How does your social credit score go down? | ||
| You've got to be a good boy. | ||
| Your Google search history. | ||
| Yeah, whatever it is. | ||
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Fuck that. | |
| It's literally like your tweets. | ||
| What do you do wrong? | ||
| What do you do right? | ||
| Did you pay your taxes on time? | ||
| Like, there's a... | ||
| It's sketchy stuff, man, because you're not going to be a human anymore. | ||
| You're going to be a human that's deeply influenced by the fact that you know you're constantly under surveillance. | ||
| And that gives in to tyranny. | ||
| And people have control over your life that way. | ||
| And the people that have access to the switch to decide whether or not... | ||
| You get money, whether or not you can fucking buy a plane ticket, whether or not you could buy certain groceries. | ||
| They just shut you off. | ||
| I wonder if you're of means, can you buy credits for that social credit score? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I'm sure that somebody's monetized. | ||
| Make a million dollar donation and get another 50 points on your social credit score. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's a bribe to be able to buy a plane ticket. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's our future if we don't wise up. | ||
| So many people that just want... | ||
| They want the government to have that kind of control because they think it will silence the people that they oppose. | ||
| They don't realize it's going to come for you too. | ||
| There's a real strong reason why the Founding Fathers set this place up the way they did because they knew that people get in control of things. | ||
| They have too much power and then – so they made it like real complicated. | ||
| With multiple layers of justice. | ||
| And that's just to stave off this fucking normal desire that people have to absolutely control the people that are under them. | ||
| That's why kings existed. | ||
| That's why monarchs and that's why rule emperors. | ||
| They've always done that forever. | ||
| And it's just a natural human instinct for one person to want to control everything or one group to control everything and have everybody be their subjects. | ||
| I'm glad we can just focus on building fucking cars. | ||
| I'm going to just keep kicking it old school. | ||
| You know, we're fucking manufacturing things out of steel in America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't have to worry about any of this because I'm not an important enough person that anybody's going to utilize any of that stuff against me. | ||
| I'm just going to... | ||
| It is weird that we're a country that requires so much of our stuff to be brought in. | ||
| Yeah, on our end, you saw such a negative change when you started bringing in steel from India, steel from China. | ||
| I mean, you'd get some stuff that was just crap, right? | ||
| We're manufacturing stuff, and you're making a control arm for a car, and you get a load of steel, and you look at this stuff, and we just reject it. | ||
| I mean, you're only using USA steel. | ||
| Because the shit would just tear, rip, break. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Just junk. | |
| Couldn't bend it. | ||
| It would snap and crack. | ||
| I never even thought of that before. | ||
| So there's different standards in how people manufacture steel. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Steel. | ||
| Someone said that to me about the Twin Towers. | ||
| This friend of mine from New York, he goes, you know what nobody talks about when they talk about the Twin Towers? | ||
| I go, what? | ||
| He goes, construction methods. | ||
| He's like, who fucking knows if they use the right steel? | ||
| Who knows where they got that shit from? | ||
| Who knows if it's supposed to be two inches thick and they made it an inch and a half? | ||
| Cutting corners in construction and finagling shit and if they got their steel from a questionable source? | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it's all American steel. | ||
| Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| But his take on it was like, bro. | ||
| Like, this is... | ||
| Like, people are like, towers aren't supposed to fall that way. | ||
| Like, they're not supposed to be built that way either, probably. | ||
| That was his take on it. | ||
| Not mine. | ||
| His take on it. | ||
| And I was like, huh. | ||
| I never thought of that before. | ||
| Because I know that there are certain construction companies that do a fucking terrible job. | ||
| And people find out about it way too late. | ||
| There's buildings that are just massive buildings that they have to fucking demolish. | ||
| Because they were just built wrong. | ||
| Also don't know how good, no matter how good of an engineer you are, if you could have planned for two fucking planes to fly into it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then the fires and the heat that comes along with that. | ||
| I don't know if there's a simulation you could run on your... | ||
| FBA analysis on that? | ||
| Dude, was that... | ||
| How old were you when that happened? | ||
| That was... | ||
| I was... | ||
| I was 19. No, you weren't. | ||
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It was 2001? | |
| I had to be 19. That was one of those moments where I think no one... | ||
| There's like a few moments in your life where you're like, I remember exactly where I was when I heard that. | ||
| I remember exactly where I was standing when I was watching the television. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I got a call. | ||
| Over and over and over again on CNN. Boom. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I remember my mom talking about it like it was when she remembers as a kid when Kennedy got assassinated. | ||
| The same thing. | ||
| It was like that same kind of focused around the TV or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, I remember I was headed to work and got that phone call like, Holy shit. | ||
| You know what's wild, though? | ||
| Those weeks after 9-11, people were so nice. | ||
| It was so different. | ||
| Remember all the sporting events? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It was just like... | ||
| Just the pride in the country. | ||
| You'd be walking down the road just high-fiving folks. | ||
| Like, yes. | ||
| I went to see the UFC in Vegas right after September 11th. | ||
| This was before I was working for the UFC. I was in the audience, and Tito Ortiz was fighting, and he came out with an American flag. | ||
| And the whole place went ballistic. | ||
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It was just... | |
| And I was with my friend Eddie and we were like, whoa, this is wild. | ||
| Like it just felt so different. | ||
| It felt so different. | ||
| It's like America felt united. | ||
| You drive down the street, everybody had an American flag on their car. | ||
| Those little American flag things that stick to your window. | ||
| It happens that way. | ||
| I mean, it happens that way in your family. | ||
| It happens that way in business. | ||
| It happens that way in any relationship. | ||
| You've got to have, unfortunately, that bad fucking thing. | ||
| To remind you of the good. | ||
| To remind you of the good. | ||
| And everybody comes together and it's like, all right, we can fight amongst each other about all kinds of fucking things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But when something bad like that happens, you realize... | ||
| It's so easy for people to lose perspective, and that's why the better things get, the more people complain. | ||
| It's so easy for people to lose perspective and not just appreciate things. | ||
| Human beings, we always want more. | ||
| And then when something goes away, like I said about when you get sick, you realize like, oh, this is what's important. | ||
| What's important is being healthy. | ||
| It's more important than anything. | ||
| If you were a rich person and someone said, okay, but you have to stay sick, like you have a cold, a bad cold for the rest of your life, but you get to stay rich, or you can just be poor again. | ||
| You have to take being poor. | ||
| You can't be you'd have to be so fucking stupid Rich with yeah Why do you think rich just tired all the time coughing everywhere you go can't go upstairs Why didn't the country come together during kovat like they did after 9/11? | ||
| Well, because the country was divided. | ||
| Everybody was literally divided. | ||
| Everyone was isolated. | ||
| That's a very weird like psychological experiment to run on people. | ||
| I'm not saying they did it on purpose, but if you wanted to do a psychological experiment on people, The best way to do it is to isolate them. | ||
| Keep them from working. | ||
| Isolate them. | ||
| You got people already that are filled with anxiety. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, this comes along. | ||
| For a lot of people, it was psychological overload. | ||
| And they were offered up one solution. | ||
| This is this one solution that's going to get us out of this. | ||
| You got to get vaccinated. | ||
| And they were telling everyone has to do it. | ||
| You gotta do it! | ||
| I'm doing it! | ||
| We're all doing it! | ||
| And no one really knew what the long-term effects were. | ||
| No one really knew how effective it was. | ||
| No one really took into account that these pharmaceutical drug companies have always done shady shit. | ||
| They have the most criminal fines. | ||
| They're always getting busted. | ||
| 25% of their drugs get pulled after they get approved. | ||
| It's just a wild-ass business. | ||
| And if you ever watch, like, Dope Sick or if you read anything about the Sackler family and the opioids, like, these people, like, they make great drugs with great reasons. | ||
| They do wonderful things for people's health. | ||
| There's a lot of great drugs that really help people. | ||
| And then there's a machine that just wants to make money. | ||
| And that machine is in cahoots with the media, and that machine was in cahoots with all the people that were promoting it, and the health agencies, and every doctor had to fall in line, and if they didn't, if they tried to prescribe other things, they'd risk losing their job. | ||
| And so that's why people didn't get brought together, because they were fucking terrified, and all the conditions were there to make people more divided. | ||
| More divided and more scared. | ||
| And some people still haven't recovered. | ||
| I still see people with masks on to this day. | ||
| Outside, walking around with masks on. | ||
| Or driving in a car by themselves, usually. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| Yeah, just people that were already probably, like, very anxious and very fucked up. | ||
| I like the guy you saw, what, three or four months ago. | ||
| It's a stretched Hayabusa motorcycle, right? | ||
| Big-ass wheel on the back. | ||
| Guy's got no helmet, but he's got a COVID mask on. | ||
| Guarantee you, buddy, it's not the COVID that's going to kill you. | ||
| Well, maybe just want bugs in his mouth. | ||
| I'll respect it if he takes it off. | ||
| Because I would imagine if you don't even have a helmet on, you're going to get some bugs in your face. | ||
| Yeah, but it's just like the standard paper shitty mask. | ||
| It's like you're... | ||
| It's like a cat when they hide under a table, but you still see their tail. | ||
| It's like, I see you. | ||
| It's like, that doesn't work. | ||
| Like, it's like you're playing a stupid trick. | ||
| Yeah, but a lot of it, I think, has gotten to be where it's sending a message. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They want everybody to know. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Oh yeah, they're doing the right thing. | ||
| I still wear a mask. | ||
| I see people on Twitter, like someone will declare, you know, I still mask up everywhere I go. | ||
| I double mask in public. | ||
| And then underneath it, people are like, yeah, me too, I do too. | ||
| I was just like shut-ins and insane people that don't want to let it go. | ||
| And they'll probably mask up three, four, five years from now too. | ||
| Okay, go ahead. | ||
| But that's what it is. | ||
| It cracked some people. | ||
| And those circumstances that it happened under where people were divided because they were literally isolated at home, that just causes so much anxiety. | ||
| And then you can't work. | ||
| And then the bills are piling up. | ||
| You don't know if you're going to lose your house and your business is shut down. | ||
| Yeah, we got shut down. | ||
| We got shut down for like, how long? | ||
| Six weeks, seven weeks? | ||
| California was a long time. | ||
| That was actually the start of the Cuda. | ||
| That was. | ||
| We were shut down for six weeks, and him and John came in and cut the floor out of your car, built the chassis, built the floors. | ||
| Yeah, I watched the Autotopia LA video that you guys did. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| Yeah, dude, Sean does a kick-ass job on those, man. | ||
| Yeah, we were talking about him last night. | ||
| Like, that guy so obviously loves cars. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So it's infectious. | ||
| It is. | ||
| You can't fake that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, and that's why his channel's popular. | ||
| It's like, you can't fake genuine, like, appreciation. | ||
| Yeah, I appreciate it. | ||
| He's like a likable dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You like watching the stuff. | ||
| He does a good job with videos, too. | ||
| He just lets the car speak for themselves. | ||
| He asks the right questions. | ||
| He does fucking good. | ||
| Yeah, and when he drives them, you can clearly see that he's having a great fucking time. | ||
| Yeah, we had some... | ||
| Dude, that little video he did on the CUDA was cool because that was actually... | ||
| We had some legitimate pissed off fucking neighbor. | ||
| That was really cool. | ||
| That made for a great video. | ||
| I was in the car. | ||
| I was screaming. | ||
| That dude was fucking pissed. | ||
| I was not fucking happy. | ||
| What was he mad about? | ||
| We're on some, like, where our shop's at, like, just past the shop. | ||
| It's, like, almost like the country, right? | ||
| You kind of get on these country roads. | ||
| And this dude just got so pissed because they were standing on the side of the road filming, but it was in his, it was his property. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And he was mumbling something about, I'm going to get my gun or put my gun away. | ||
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Well, the one... | |
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| This is a public damn road. | ||
| They had stopped and talked to the guy and the guy said, the neighbor, he said, you can park right there in that pull around. | ||
| So they parked in that pull around because the neighbor gave him permission. | ||
| Apparently, the neighbor that actually owned the property says that's not the neighbor's driveway to say it's okay. | ||
| And he just, instead of being like, hey, dude, like, what's going on? | ||
| He just came out hot. | ||
| I bet the two neighbors are just fucking with each other. | ||
| It's been an ongoing feud, so he's like, I'm going to get him. | ||
| Go park over in his yard. | ||
| In his defense, though, imagine if you're just trying to enjoy a calm, peaceful day at home. | ||
| And you hear... | ||
| You're doing these fucking lead foot takes down that road. | ||
| There's only, what, two or three, right? | ||
| Yeah, it was two or three. | ||
| They're loud. | ||
| Who the fuck wouldn't like that? | ||
| That guy. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| Yeah, that was the one guy. | ||
| We know there's at least one. | ||
| Yeah, he's at home watching old Bonanza episodes. | ||
| Wearing his mask. | ||
| Yeah, some people are weird, man. | ||
| They don't like loud noises. | ||
| I get it, though. | ||
| If you're in a country, quiet setting, it's a loud-ass car. | ||
| Yeah, it is... | ||
| Do you like seeing that? | ||
| Do you like seeing the videos of that car before you get to see it in person? | ||
| Or would you rather have it like a surprise? | ||
| No, I don't mind at all. | ||
| It's great to see the videos. | ||
| It makes me more excited to see it when I get it. | ||
| But no, the videos are awesome. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And the one that Sean did was great. | ||
| Sean did one of my 69 Nova too. | ||
| The one that Steve Strobe built me. | ||
| That one's awesome too. | ||
| Yeah, he's great. | ||
| Does awesome shit. | ||
| I'm just so glad that that's one of those things that came out of social media that's interesting. | ||
| It's like an individual content creator that is just like probably wouldn't get a job doing that on a television show. | ||
| But his show is super successful just because it's genuine, just because he really loves cars and he's a real likable guy and he's doing this thing. | ||
| It's like he doesn't look like your classic guy that is hosting a car show with coiffed hair on the Discovery Channel. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, not a cheesy strip club announcer voice. | ||
| Some actor who's talking to you about a 69 Camaro. | ||
| You know, it's like he's not that. | ||
| He's just a regular human being. | ||
| It's relatable. | ||
| You've done a lot of shit with TV. Why do you think that TV executives don't realize, especially car-related shit, to get somebody that's legit and... | ||
| Well, because they want to control everything, right? | ||
| So they want to decide what you say. | ||
| They want to tell you where to stand. | ||
| They want to set the scene. | ||
| They have, like, all these things in their mind that they want the show to be in order for it to be successful. | ||
| In their defense, they think they have a model in their mind of what a successful show looks like. | ||
| But what they... | ||
| The problem also is they don't have a lot of time to make something successful. | ||
| So if you're doing something like Autotopia, what do you need? | ||
| You need a few cameras. | ||
| You don't need a lot. | ||
| You need to just upload it. | ||
| It's not that much, right? | ||
| If you're doing a television show, you have union wages, you have trucks, you have grips, you have all these fucking people that are moving things around and carrying things and lighting. | ||
| And then you have the executives, you have the people that are at the studio. | ||
| You've got 30, 40, 50 people that are involved in every project and millions of dollars in the budget. | ||
| So if it's not successful right away, it's going to lose money. | ||
| And then they just bail on it. | ||
| So you have like a few episodes to catch fire, and if it doesn't work, you're gone. | ||
| And then the new one comes in. | ||
| And then they invest a sizable amount of money putting together some new thing. | ||
| And by doing that, sometimes you make good shows when you get a bunch of great people with a good vision, but a lot of times you get too many things that don't work with each other that well, and whoever the person is that you wanted to host the show never really gets to be themselves. | ||
| So they never really get to, like, people don't connect with them. | ||
| They don't feel it. | ||
| It's just fake. | ||
| And it doesn't feel that good. | ||
| So you don't like it. | ||
| So nobody watches it. | ||
| Whereas you can do a show like... | ||
| Look at Jay Leno's Garage is a perfect example. | ||
| Jay Leno was the host of The Tonight Show. | ||
| It's like, yeah, he did a great job. | ||
| But it was not that thrilling. | ||
| It was just The Tonight Show. | ||
| It was just this thing that was mediocre, mildly entertaining. | ||
| But when you see Jay Leno hosting Jay Leno's Garage, he's great at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fucking loves cars. | ||
| He's so in his element. | ||
| It's so normal and natural. | ||
| That guy loves cars. | ||
| When he's talking about whatever it is, when he's driving around the car asking questions, that guy fucking loves it. | ||
| And so the people that weren't into Jay Leno from the Tonight Show days, because it was clean, family, corporate television, they love him now. | ||
| They're like, oh, he's a car guy. | ||
| Yeah, you get the uncensored Jay Leno. | ||
| The real Jay Leno. | ||
| That's the real Jay Leno. | ||
| And that's what you get with, like, YouTube and things like that now. | ||
| And what you guys are doing on your podcast, too. | ||
| It's the same kind—you're just being yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and talking about cool shit. | ||
| Yeah, and just talking about cars and whiskey and other— Dumb shit. | ||
| Dumb shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Guy shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But people love, like, tuning in to stuff like that. | ||
| They love knowing there's only a few people working on this. | ||
| This is not some massive project that involves corporations. | ||
| This is coming straight from a bunch of people. | ||
| And that's the thing that they can't duplicate. | ||
| That's why news shows like CNN, they just feel so fake. | ||
| Everything feels fake. | ||
| Everyone's talking fake. | ||
| Cut to commercial every five minutes. | ||
| It's like, what is this? | ||
| It's like a shitty format. | ||
| You think they realize that? | ||
| And if so, what's their pivot? | ||
| They're trapped! | ||
| It's working. | ||
| They're trapped! | ||
| They're making money, but their viewership is as low as it's ever been. | ||
| It's really low. | ||
| Like, way down from the Trump era. | ||
| Well, ads have to be down, too. | ||
| I mean, aren't being major corporations can't get a bigger ROI from going to more YouTube channels or podcasts or anything like that? | ||
| Yeah, but there's also this interesting relationship between advertisement and influence. | ||
| Like, if a primary source of your ad revenue is a certain company, perhaps you won't report about things that company does that are bad. | ||
| As long as they keep advertising. | ||
| You think that really happens? | ||
| I think it can happen. | ||
| Hypothetical. | ||
| I think that's part of the relationship they have. | ||
| It's not as simple as, like, this is the most profitable place to advertise. | ||
| It's also this is a place that if we advertise, we continue this relationship. | ||
| And this relationship clearly is in some way influenced by the money that it gets from these corporations. | ||
| It's not going to openly criticize these corporations that are funding a giant chunk of their ad revenue. | ||
| So they're fucked. | ||
| So they're fucked. | ||
| And it's always going to be better to get your news source from someone who's like an actual journalist who's independent. | ||
| You can get that now. | ||
| And that's what people are realizing. | ||
| That's why cable's like sort of slowly slipping away. | ||
| When does Netflix have news? | ||
| Ha! | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| When do they? | ||
| It's not a bad idea, right? | ||
| Have like regular people read the news? | ||
| They just like... | ||
| Read the actual events. | ||
| As legit as could be. | ||
| The thing about the news is like you want to know all the news. | ||
| So if they just told you one story... | ||
| Like one story about the wildfires in Maui. | ||
| Really, they should be talking about that all day. | ||
| It should be like hours and hours and hours. | ||
| It can't really be five minutes. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, it can't really be like more than 90 people are dead, a thousand are missing. | ||
| Back to you, Bob. | ||
| Today, the Clippers scored 100. You can't do that. | ||
| Clippers didn't score 100. Right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| They don't have the time to give you new... | ||
| And you don't want it either, because people are spoon-fed. | ||
| They want to know, okay, what's going on in Ukraine? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How's the economy? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Does Bud Light still suck? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Is it okay to watch the Barbie movie? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You just checked all the boxes. | ||
| Yeah, that is all the highlights. | ||
| So they can't really go into depth about things, and they can't talk about certain things. | ||
| It's not like they can just tell you what they really feel about what's going on. | ||
| They can't start talking about the military-industrial complex and its influence on politicians. | ||
| They're not going to tell you all these stories. | ||
| It's, like, very controlled. | ||
| And people realize that now. | ||
| They're not interested in it anymore. | ||
| Man, so where do you think, like, where the hell do people go to get that accurate news? | ||
| Podcasts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Independent journalists who've made podcasts. | ||
| Guys like Matt Taibbi. | ||
| Guys like Crystal and Sagar on Breaking Points. | ||
| People that are independent and reliable and honest and they can give you the information as they see it. | ||
| The last two are the hardest ones to put your finger on because there's so many fake people who are pushing one agenda and you don't know what the side of the story is and they spin it to whatever direction they want it to go. | ||
| Yeah, just pure propaganda. | ||
| And they're allowed to do that now. | ||
| One of the things that's really bizarre that came out during Elon buying Twitter is finding out how much of the FBI had involvement in censoring tweets. | ||
| And censoring tweets that turned out to be accurate. | ||
| Censoring tweets about the Hunter Biden laptop, censoring tweets about COVID and vaccine data. | ||
| It's just like, the FBI was involved in people's tweets? | ||
| Like, how? | ||
| What? | ||
| And Facebook, too? | ||
| It's like, whew. | ||
| Dude, honestly, if you're not regularly listening to some prominent podcasts, you're not getting any sort of factual information. | ||
| I mean, for a guy like me, I'm a hot rod builder, dude. | ||
| I'm a businessman. | ||
| Politics aren't really my fucking thing, but listening to you, Jordan Peterson, RFK Jr., I had never fucking known about that dude, right? | ||
| And I think he's a pretty fucking cool dude. | ||
| Very interesting guy. | ||
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Very intelligent guy. | |
| Un-fucking-believable guy. | ||
| I mean, incredibly interesting. | ||
| And that's something you would never hear about. | ||
| That's not going to come up on mainstream news and motivate a guy like me to be more interested in that guy. | ||
| Well, no one's going to ever let him just talk like that. | ||
| He told me that over 18 years, no one just let him talk like that. | ||
| Just let him not interrupt him, not stop him, not try to change the subject, to say, just go ahead and tell me everything that you think. | ||
| Your podcast with Jordan Peterson, I think you said like four words the entire time, and he just ran. | ||
| Well, Jordan's perfect for that, too. | ||
| I mean, he's also in tune right now because he does all these lectures. | ||
| So Jordan does these huge stadiums, these giant fucking places, and he's just... | ||
| He's essentially ranting for like an hour and a half. | ||
| And he has prepared bullet points and things he wants to talk about, but he kind of lets the flow go when he gets up there. | ||
| But he can do that about anything and everything. | ||
| He's ridiculously smart, like confusingly smart. | ||
| Sharp guy. | ||
| But the amount of reading that guy's done, like just the fucking, the things that he can recall at the tips of his finger, like instantaneously, it's pretty stunning. | ||
| I'm still thinking about the Facebook shit. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| You're talking about the Facebook and the FBI. So I've just got this picture in my head at the Facebook headquarters. | ||
| You've got the dude that's on the phone with the FBI, right? | ||
| And he's like, all right, yeah, we're going to suppress those tweets. | ||
| We're going to do that. | ||
| And he's sharing a cubicle. | ||
| And this other dude, Mitch, is bitching about the Facebook marketplace. | ||
| And Deb is in Nevada bitching about her post for vases to get taken down. | ||
| Like, it's such a huge business. | ||
| Probably different levels there. | ||
| You think it's different floors? | ||
| They prioritize. | ||
| It's a big building. | ||
| But you think about the things that Facebook's dealing with on a daily basis just to run their stuff and then dealing with the, you know, I can't believe you deleted my post, you know. | ||
| Well, there's also weird things they do. | ||
| Like, I read this thing today, Jamie. | ||
| Well, I only read the headline. | ||
| I didn't read the article. | ||
| I was going to bring it up today. | ||
| They said that at one point in time, Facebook was contacted by the FBI about one of Tucker Carlson's videos and that they reduced the views of it or reduced the reach of it by 50%. | ||
| Google that. | ||
| See what the fuck that's all about. | ||
| What ever came out on Tucker? | ||
| What was the real reason they fucking shitcanned him? | ||
| I don't think you'll ever know. | ||
| I don't think he said. | ||
| I don't think he can. | ||
| He's probably in the middle of a lawsuit. | ||
| Probably can't talk about it. | ||
| But it's pretty wild. | ||
| You got literally the only successful guy on cable news, the only one that has a loyal fan base, and the only one who says wild shit. | ||
| He was talking like he was on a podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he was doing it on Fox. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like some of the things he said, like the CIA killed Kennedy. | ||
| And everybody's like, what the fuck? | ||
| This guy on Fox? | ||
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He just said the CIA killed Kennedy? | |
| I was just looking at your Kennedy framed deal. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Patrick Bet-David gave me that. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| It's pretty cool. | ||
| Do we find it, that story? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is it horseshit? | ||
| I'm not saying either way. | ||
| I just said that's not a... | ||
| I don't know where you saw it, so I have to find... | ||
| I just want you to Google Facebook reduced Tucker Carlson's video reach by... | ||
| Not a single thing came up that way. | ||
| It was other articles about different stuff with Tucker's name and Facebook and Fox News and predictions and this and that. | ||
| Nothing about... | ||
| They reduced the search history. | ||
| I should have saved it. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| That's always one of those ones where I'm like, you'll be able to find this. | ||
| There's just too many fucking stories out there now. | ||
| Is your screenshots on your phone just, like, ridiculous? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you try to go back and be like, what? | ||
| There's got to be something in that that I screenshot. | ||
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What is the reason? | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| It just looks like a cat. | ||
| You found it? | ||
| It says hang in there. | ||
| What does it say, Jim? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I got a Biden administration press Facebook about censoring Tucker Carlson post federal lawsuit. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| From July. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So despite Facebook staff assessing that the video did not qualify for removal from the site. | ||
| So Facebook complied with requests from members of President Joe Biden's White House staff to throttle the reach of a 2021 video by then Fox News host Tucker Carlson, according to the federal lawsuit. | ||
| And it says despite Facebook staff assessing that the video did not qualify for removal. | ||
| So under the The request by the federal government, they decided to throttle a video that they couldn't remove because it didn't qualify for being removed. | ||
| So that means it didn't violate anything. | ||
| And what was this video about? | ||
| I'm trying to find out what it says or what it was talking about. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| I'm sure they've gathered our best interests at heart. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure we're going down a path where ours will be throttling forward. | ||
| Mr. Carlson, okay. | ||
| Strategy, Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Digital Strategy Rob Flaherty emailed Facebook executives demanding the suppression of Of a video segment by Mr. Carlson in which he questioned their safety and asserted that people who had taken the COVID-19 vaccines had sustained injuries and died. | ||
| Mr. Flaherty also flagged a video by another Fox News host, Tommy Lauren, who said she wouldn't take a vaccine. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Well, that's true, though. | ||
| People did sustain injuries and some people did die from it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And they got Facebook to throttle that, even though it's true. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| And we paid for that staff of all those people to watch those videos and flag them and let Facebook know too. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Then White House senior COVID-19 advisor Andy Slavitt also messaged Facebook executive Nick Clegg about Mr. Carlson's video. | ||
| According to the judge's Tuesday ruling, Mr. Slavitt expressed his displeasure that Facebook did not remove the video and said, Not for nothing, but the last time we did this dance, it ended in an insurrection. | ||
| Mr. Clegg, in turn, noted that the video did not qualify for removal. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| That's some heavy stuff. | ||
| Despite the video not qualifying for removal, Facebook officials said Mr. Carlson's video was being demoted to reduce its reach. | ||
| In an April 16, 2021 follow-up, Facebook officials told Mr. Flaherty that the platform gave Mr. Carlson's video a 50% demotion for seven days and stated that it would continue to demote the video despite it not violating the platform's policies. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| That's just pure censorship. | ||
| That's information that turns out to be true that you don't like. | ||
| You don't want people knowing about it. | ||
| And so you contacted a social media company and said, the last time we did this dance, it ended in insurrection. | ||
| This is wild stuff, man. | ||
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Crazy. | |
| These are these fucking nuts. | ||
| It's just nuts, man. | ||
| I'm sure they know what they're doing. | ||
| Leading us to hell. | ||
| Yeah, it's very strange. | ||
| It's very strange that people who appreciate the First Amendment and the importance of it, if you're an American, it's like one of the most important things that we have that other countries don't have. | ||
| It's our ability to express ourselves. | ||
| Freedom of speech. | ||
| It's fucking everything. | ||
| People don't think it's everything. | ||
| It's everything. | ||
| It's the only way you find out what's true. | ||
| When people can't talk, then someone can say something that is inaccurate or it's propaganda, and you have no one that can say any different. | ||
| You gotta take the Second Amendment along with it, though, if you take the first. | ||
| Because if you take just the first, people are gonna be super fucking pissed off. | ||
| And they've got weapons. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, they're trying to take the second one, too. | ||
| There's a lot of that going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird times, fellas. | ||
| Dude, crazy times. | ||
| Crazy, crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, pretty fun. | ||
| Pretty fun times, too, because it's so wacky. | ||
| Like, every day, there's something new. | ||
| A bunch of people getting fucking killed in a submarine. | ||
| You know, it's like, every day, there's something new craziness to pay attention to. | ||
| Oh, that joke last night. | ||
| I'm not going to give it away. | ||
| Oh, Tony? | ||
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Oh, dude. | |
| Tony's an animal. | ||
| He's a fucking savage. | ||
| So fun. | ||
| Yeah, I'm super lucky to work with that guy all the time. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Next time you guys come back into town, I've got to take you to Kill Tony. | ||
| Kill Tony's literally the best comedy experience you could ever have. | ||
| It's a show that he does live. | ||
| From the Mothership every Monday. | ||
| And it's a panel of, like, Brian Redband and Tony, who are the hosts of the show, and then professional comedians. | ||
| And, like, last time we did it, it was me, my friend Kurt Metzger, and Post Malone. | ||
| Like, we were the guests. | ||
| And it was so fun. | ||
| It was just fucking ridiculously fun. | ||
| And the show is amateurs, and people just starting out get one minute. | ||
| And they go up and do one minute and then they get roasted by the panel and there's an amazing band. | ||
| It's the most fun show ever. | ||
| Oh shit, we'll have to do that. | ||
| And Tony hosts that. | ||
| That's like his... | ||
| He's been doing it for like 13 years. | ||
| Yeah, he's been... | ||
| How long has he been hosting? | ||
| 10. 10 because we just did the anniversary. | ||
| Yeah, 10 years. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Yeah, he's a funny dude. | ||
| And he's doing an anniversary... | ||
| Well, he did an anniversary show, a 10-year anniversary show that we did at this big theater in town. | ||
| And then they're doing a New Year's show at a fucking arena. | ||
| So they're doing an HEB arena for Kill Tony for New Year's. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Congrats to him. | ||
| Bananas! | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| Filling arenas. | ||
| That's got to be a hell of a feeling. | ||
| Yeah, for this crazy show that they started in this tiny room in the Comedy Store. | ||
| It's this place called The Belly Room. | ||
| It only seats like 70 people. | ||
| That's where they started this show like 10 years ago. | ||
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Nuts. | |
| Nuts. | ||
| Fucking nuts. | ||
| It's wild, right? | ||
| I mean, bringing it back to you guys, like when you first started Roadster Shop and now being one of the premier builders in the world of those kind of cars, I mean, how long have you guys been around for? | ||
| Dude, we've been doing this now 20 years. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, time fucking flies. | ||
| So when you first started out, in like the 2003 market, what was available in terms of custom suspensions and things along those lines? | ||
| In 2003, I mean, it was a different world. | ||
| What people were interested in was wildly different. | ||
| So you had a different demographic. | ||
| Guys were into, like, 30s hot ruts. | ||
| When you looked at, like, aftermarket custom cars, they were like a 1932 Ford, a Deuce Roadster, something like that, five-window coupe. | ||
| That's what was the popular aftermarket. | ||
| The muscle car stuff hadn't really been modified yet. | ||
| So there was like aftermarket suspension for those. | ||
| We were manufacturing chassis for 30s and 40s street rods, you called them. | ||
| And it wasn't until like, I don't know, probably like 2008, 2007? | ||
| What do you think caused this shift? | ||
| Do you think it was shows like overhauling and rides? | ||
| You know, honestly, when the recession hit, our entire shop was all 1930s hot rods. | ||
| When we weathered the storm and got through the recession, there wasn't a single one of those left, and it was all muscle cars. | ||
| And it was like a fucking light switch, you know? | ||
| I don't know what the deal was. | ||
| It was just a changing of the guards. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| A little bit generational of what was cool when you were in high school or what your parents had. | ||
| And then there's always like a, Josh put it best, like a pendulum of this is cool, this is cool, we're going to do the complete opposite and it swings the other direction and you're just constantly going back and forth. | ||
| High-end show cars to patina drivers from pro-touring muscle cars into lifted off-road four-wheel drive stuff. | ||
| It's just always moving. | ||
| Everybody wants to do something different. | ||
| It's the counterculture part of it. | ||
| As soon as something I even heard, I think y'all were talking about it on Post Malone's podcast, everybody's into something until you find out everybody else is into it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then it's like, oh, I've got to do something fucking different. | ||
| Yeah, but if everybody got into muscle cars, I wouldn't stop. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think they have because there's so many different muscle cars and there's so many different styles and ways to build them. | ||
| I feel that way about the UFC too. | ||
| When I first started working for the UFC, I started working for them in 97 and I did it from 97 to 98 and then I did it... | ||
| I started working again for them in 2001. But I was back when nobody knew what the fuck it was. | ||
| I was doing these shows in 97, Dothan, Alabama. | ||
| You're flying in a propeller plane and people are fighting with shoes on. | ||
| Bare knuckle and headbutts were legal. | ||
| Like, it was crazy. | ||
| The crazy times. | ||
| I'm happy that more people are... | ||
| I'm not like, yeah, I knew when it was cool. | ||
| Like, that to me is so dumb. | ||
| Like, if you like a band, and all of a sudden the band makes it, you're like, yeah, they fucking sold out. | ||
| I don't like them now. | ||
| Everybody likes them. | ||
| UFC's changed too, right? | ||
| All different fighting styles and different weight classes and what's kind of cool. | ||
| Yeah, it's just gotten better. | ||
| It's just constantly gotten better. | ||
| The people today are just the best ever. | ||
| It's insane, like the level of talent. | ||
| And it's such a pressure cooker because in every division, like in this weekend you have Aljamain Sterling fighting Sugar Sean O'Malley. | ||
| So you have the best of the best. | ||
| Like the most exciting contender versus the most dominant champion. | ||
| And it's just, woo! | ||
| And that happens. | ||
| Like this pressure cooker in that division. | ||
| Because you've got guys like Corey Sandhagen and Marlon Vera. | ||
| You've got so many killers in this division. | ||
| Everybody's just striving to be the champion. | ||
| And they're around so much talent. | ||
| That everybody has to get better. | ||
| So it's like the level of competition is so strong in every weight class that it's just this insane like diamond machine. | ||
| Like the pressure makes these insane diamonds of talent. | ||
| And that's just off the charts right now. | ||
| That's what we've seen in ours, especially over the last 10 years. | ||
| Our industry is, you know, the other shops coming up and wanting better and better and better, which is why we've had to continue getting better on all the chassis and the Different innovations that we've come out with, but it's the trickle down. | ||
| I mean, you talk about UFC getting mainstream, getting so much bigger. | ||
| Then you've got the apparel brands, and then you've got, you know, the fight gear, and you've got stuff in the gloves. | ||
| Everybody's got to get better at their shit. | ||
| You actually can make a business to support that. | ||
| The same thing in our industry where you have, we can build... | ||
| The chassis at the volume that we can because of the way the industry has gone. | ||
| Well, the market's there. | ||
| So you can put the time, you can put the effort into it, you can put the engineering and spend the money to develop something that's really fucking badass. | ||
| It's also great what you guys do for the hobbyist, for someone who wants to build their own car. | ||
| Like, you provide them the actual suspension. | ||
| Like, if someone knows how to do all that, and they have the time and the garage space, You know, they can actually use the same components that you guys do and do it themselves. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And that's a big portion of our business. | ||
| I mean, a lot of guys, we... | ||
| I can't tell you how many, like, home builders we have. | ||
| They take that chassis, they take all the same components that we use in a car that maybe we build for you. | ||
| The chassis that's under his Camaro. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The chassis that's under your 69 Camaro that's honestly a father and son could do that swap and chassis install in a long weekend. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, and they take their 69 Camaro from driving like, you know, an antiquated kind of death trap to now they've got a fucking sports car, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think what you guys do is awesome. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| And I'm glad we got to do this podcast. | ||
| It's been fucking awesome. | ||
| I've had a blast. | ||
| Thank you for building the most insane car of all time. | ||
| You're welcome, man. | ||
| Enjoy that fucker. | ||
| I will. | ||
| I will. | ||
| I promise. | ||
| All right. | ||
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| Just Google Roadster Shop. | ||
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| We're kind of a little spread out there. | ||
| Check us out. | ||
| Well, I appreciate you guys. | ||
| Thank you very much for coming on. | ||
| Thank you. |
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