Joe Rogan and Duncan Trussell dive into the Dunning-Kruger effect, citing chess prodigies like Johnny and blindfolded masters using memory palaces. Rogan’s two-year fitness hiatus worsened his mood, while they critique cashless societies, linking traceable transactions to biblical surveillance fears. Exploring ancient texts—Dead Sea Scrolls (3rd c. BCE), psychedelic theories tied to Sumerian cults—they contrast Jesus as a "magician" with John’s divine truth focus. Modern exploitation, from monetized child abuse on YouTube to plane wreckage pranks (3M views, $1,644/day fines), reveals how attention-seeking thrives amid systemic failures and unchecked tech risks, questioning whether democracy or even reality itself is as transparent as it claims. [Automatically generated summary]
In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when many scientific breakthroughs happened, the white lab coat started to symbolize cleanliness and scientific rigor.
Not only it made doctors and scientists easily distinguishable, but it also made spotting any contamination easier.
Because if you had a guy who's dressed like in a golf shirt with like shorts on and a pair of Nikes, and he's like ruling judgment on things, you'd be like, fuck that guy.
The idea is that there's no such thing as a successful cult, and that's really just not true.
Okay, the words cult and occult are popular terms that should not be confused as one or other.
So what are the differences between them?
The term cult typically is used by the secular media to describe religious or semi-religious groups whose members are controlled in almost every single respect by a single individual.
Some good examples are Hari Christians and Scientologists.
You know, and I think probably, I mean, it would be safe to say that a successful cult passes that barrier between, what the fuck, you guys believe that shit?
To, what the fuck, you don't believe that shit?
Like, your cult doctrine becomes the, like, language of truth.
It's interesting because this is the problem with the term dumb.
Really what it is, is what are you focusing on?
Because there's very intelligent people that didn't focus on communication.
They didn't focus on language.
They didn't focus on proper grammar or how to structure a good sentence.
They focused on a particular act, whether it's swimming or whether it's chess.
They focused on whether it's playing guitar, playing pool.
I've met brilliant people playing pool.
I think I told you about my friend Johnny.
Who could do complex math in his head.
I mean, not complex, but math in his head.
So what you would do, one guy would have a calculator, and we would do this at the pool hall, and then we would go 300 divided by 5 minus 4 plus 16 times 2, and he would bang.
He was like a social scientist, but also could play all these different musical instruments.
Homeless.
Homeless.
I met a kid who was 16 years old, and he was a chess wizard who wanted to hang out with the bad boys.
It was really interesting, because he was like this super nerd that all of a sudden he was hanging out with these guys who were smoking and gambling, and he was 16 in this really rough pool hall.
And he would sit down with this guy who just got out of jail.
And this guy just got out of jail and in jail learned how to play chess in his head.
So they don't have a board.
So because they don't have a board, they have to call out the numbers in their head.
So I'm watching this recently released prisoner and a 16 year old super nerd play chess in their head.
And they're calling it out.
And I'm sitting there like I'm watching them do magic.
It's just, you know, you hear about, you know, I think we talked about it at the mothership the other night, but you hear about people who perceive numbers as colors or something, or it's like their brain has made a different connection.
Because if you think about what our eyes do with photons, that's insane.
That instantaneously it forms Time-space around you with, like, zero effort.
Like, it's interpreting all this data, color, wavelengths, all that shit.
And then also the effort you take to have a stress-free environment.
The effort that you take to put out as little bullshit as you can and to be nice to people as often as you can and just sort of keep harmonious, fun people around you.
The less bullshit you have in your life, whether it's bullshit that you have to deal with because you didn't exercise, or your body's breaking down, it's like car maintenance.
Like, if you just don't ever change your oil, you could go a long time.
I dated this girl once when I was 22, and she told me she had never changed the oil in her car.
We were having a conversation about this last night in the green room, too.
It's like the way we talk to each other as comics, like, you know, everyone had a story of how they talk to their wife or their spouse like a comic once.
You know, like, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen?
You know, where, like, the way you would say something to me, like, if I did something really stupid, you're like, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen?
Once you start applying this to everybody and you realize a lot of times we're using a mode of communication based on our experience with our particular job or business or whatever and trying to get other people or even the way you were raised.
What if ideas are a life form and the way they manifest in reality?
They get into a person's brain and then influence that person to take action to create them.
The same way a parasite will get into a grasshopper's brain, like those aquatic worms, and they convince the grasshopper to commit suicide so that they can be born.
Weird shit happens with parasites.
What if ideas are a life form?
Because everything that exists that human beings have created, just think about the fucking immense amount of objects that we've created.
All of them came from ideas.
All of them.
And we think of, this is my idea.
I had this idea.
But we both know that ideas are very strange.
They come to you in the weirdest of ways.
It's the reason why people believe in the muse.
It's the reason why Pressfield's book, The War of Art, is so good.
Because when he documents this sort of...
It's a journey that he goes on every day when he writes, where he summons the muse.
He does it like it is in his mind.
No, it's a real thing.
And then starts to write and treats it like a ritual.
You're going to be there all the time.
What is happening there?
What are you summoning when you get these ideas?
Whether it's summoning something that's a creative work, like literature, or whether it's the invention that changes society forever.
The Faustian bargain was the, according to the person who invented it, was the inspiration for technology that we are still using today.
So then you go back and you think, Well, what inspired Goethe?
You know, and then you realize it's like this crazy wave of, like it ripples through time.
Like somebody gets inspired, writes it down, it's beautiful.
I don't know how long passed between when he wrote that and Tesla had his vision, but Certainly, obviously, Goethe probably had no idea that when he spent the time writing that thing and trusted to write it down, he was gonna warp the entire planet.
His poem was gonna ripple out and warp the entire planet just from a poem.
It's like they mimic, and I'm not just saying this because my wife's pregnant, they mimic childbirth in the sense that there's some kind of gestation period.
You're inseminated with your inspiration.
Then you've got to start growing it, and then the phases of growing it can be really torturous and long.
Somewhere in there, you're like, this sucks.
This is really the dumbest thing of all time.
And then you keep working on it and maybe you realize that's true or you fix it.
It's like a puzzle.
But that is why so many people, I think, are letting inspiration come all over their face, but not letting it inside.
I always tell people that the way I try to think about things is bandwidth.
I try to think about...
I pretend there's a number.
Let's say that number is 100. I have 100...
Banned 100 units that I have for my information, for what I'm allowed to think about, what I can use my brain for.
Anytime I put stuff in there that's nonsense, anytime I put stuff in there that's negative or unproductive, unless it's funny, anytime I'm putting stuff in there, That's taking away from all my other stuff.
And one thing that people need to understand is that one of the things your brain will do to protect yourself from, whether it's the pressure of success or succeeding or accomplishing things, your brain will, when you're presented with the stress of trying to accomplish something, it will put extra emphasis on all these stupid things in your life to distract you.
And it almost like protects you from the stress of having to do the work.
And you see people sabotage their lives, sabotage their careers.
You see it happen to artists, musicians, fighters, comedians.
It's a normal thing that we do just as human beings.
You get freaked out by what you know you should do, so you spend more time paying attention to the things that you shouldn't do.
And based, at least my own assessment of it, it's based on the delusion that the feeling of procrastination is less painful than the feeling of doing your work.
And it couldn't.
It's the opposite.
Like procrastination, you...
Spread it out across your life, like your weeks.
You just spread this nice shitty coating of procrastination.
Mild anxiety.
General sense of like, I'm a piece of shit because you're not doing it.
And then when you finally get around to doing it, you realize the thing you didn't want to do is so fun most of the time.
Engaging, interesting, but if nothing else, you feel so much better because you're finally taking care of it.
And you realize all that anxiety, all that...
If you somehow could quantify the amount of anxiety you're going to feel procrastinating versus the amount of anxiety you're going to feel doing something, You know what I mean?
It's exponentially more anxiety from procrastinating.
You made me picture in my head how fucked up it would be to come home Your dog is laying in bed playing video games with like some Kleenex on the floor next to it.
That's gonna be a real problem sometime soon, anyway.
They're gonna invent something that allows you to orgasm with your mind.
There's gonna be some neural link type deal where once they tap into functions of the mind and start expanding the abilities of these neural link type...
You know, man, before we become aliens, which I honestly, I buy into that idea, but before we become aliens, all the weird shit in between us becoming aliens, that's the part that, like, the Neuralink stuff,
the inevitable, whatever the brain interface shows up as, the Inevitable day that someone hacks into whatever the server is that's dishing out Feelings or whatever it is to people attached.
There will be like an orgasm wave.
Someone's going to hack it.
Someone's going to simultaneously give like an incredibly powerful orgasm to everyone on the planet.
And you'll just watch it around you as people like come super hard because everyone's neural link got hacked.
It is interesting, though, how there is a subconscious to society.
Within society, there's the self that people present.
And then underneath it, there's all the shit nobody sees.
All the shit that people do behind closed doors.
All the shit that isn't that person they put out front.
And, you know, the bigger the...
Tension between those two things is the the worse your life is gonna be but the yeah, man It's just weird to think about that like no matter what no matter how professional a person presents as no matter how like They've got it together.
They seem to have it together.
You don't know.
Yeah, you never take spaghetti baths They could go home and just cover themselves in spaghetti and and cry a lot of crying Yeah, so that to me is interesting.
Like, within society is a whole hidden realm.
And specifically, as far as I'm aware, no one has seen a president come in the public.
Imagine if I knew some horrible dark secrets about you and you came over my house and I have a giant painting of you right when you walk into the front door.
We're talking about the Epstein-Clinton painting and how, you know, sort of like the implication of anything like that or the reminder of anything like that is because our leaders are human and humans are culpable and hackable and it's easier to invade a country or take over a country by just control the leader.
You control the country.
So there's clearly a pressure there.
There's obviously people who would love to do that.
And Probably try, would try, and have probably succeeded a few times, meaning that our understanding of democracy as, like, the president represents the people, it's, like, totally wrong.
In fact, it's potentially someone being controlled by people you'll never meet or maybe never even knew existed.
Because if it was, well, they would never, if you had an enormous organization that controls everything, you control everything in the country, would you really let a new person just run it every four years in whatever way they like?
You're running various agencies and like, wouldn't you make sure over time that you secured enough control that the president really is just sort of a figurehead?
This is the liminal or subliminal part of the human experience.
What you're talking about right now is upsetting to people.
But also, a lot of people will say, you're not even supposed to say that.
And even though it's true, even though it's in plain sight, trackable, traceable, precedent for it in the past, not even that astounding.
You are supposed to like rest in this strange dream world where human beings experiencing some of the most power you can have in the world don't go a little or totally or completely insane or don't get hijacked or don't get like we're supposed to pretend that doesn't happen right when you look at the president look like Does Biden seem like
I love that one because mixed into the printing money thing, which obviously I have money printers.
What's really funny about that is somehow people believe that that money is like doesn't go just right hot off the press to like people in the building.
Like, or that it doesn't like some of that money gets shifted around and like, you know, or some of it is printed.
And I know I'm sure there's like, no, there's securities in place.
We have securities in place.
It's numbered.
We've got to come on.
If you have a money printer in America, are you fucking kidding me?
If you're the main printer of money in America, you're the one who presses enter on the computer to print out two trillion dollars.
I mean, it's gotten increasingly like, you know, you talk about the, I love it, the race, the evolutionary race, like every time, like a gazelle has to get a little bit faster.
And then if it's getting faster, the predator has to increase its speed.
And so there's this like evolutionary pressure.
To keep things going faster.
Same with counterfeit, right?
It's got to be.
So they're like, okay, we solved the problem.
We put a triple hologram underneath that would require 700 micro sheets of paper to duplicate.
Somebody's looking at that and being like, how much money would it cost to duplicate that?
And they're like, oh, probably a million dollars.
And they're like, great.
We'll pay for it with the money we print.
LAUGHTER We'll take the loan print the money and pay for it and then they're like fuck they figured out duplication technique and then Our hologram technique and then they're like fuck we got to put something else in there and then it's just a never-ending I Imagine like how long before we're a cashless society Hopefully forever dude.
I hope I hope forever.
I hope we know like it is so scary to imagine a Losing the privacy.
Losing it all completely because every transaction is in the public eye or observable.
That's really scary, man.
I mean, it's like I don't even do anything interesting with my money.
Tip on the road like you know I use my card and I know that's the argument is that's traceable I realize that but it's scary because it there's an option you want to just like blow some cash on something you can't you could just like no one will know it's the whatever it is right not that I would ever use cash for anything other than legal purposes it's just like that you know what I mean like the like one day in the future everything will be traceable That's right.
And that's, you know, this is where I get, this is where being raised an Episcopalian, in the Book of Revelations, as a Christian, you're going to read it.
This is where I get scared, because it's too similar.
It's too similar to exactly what it says.
You won't be able to trade, you won't be able to do anything unless you have the mark, unless you bear the mark.
It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.
It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.
It performs great signs, even making fire come down from the heaven to earth in front of people.
And by the signs that it allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.
It also causes all both small and great both rich and poor both free and slave to be marked on the right hand or the forehead so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark That is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
This calls for wisdom Let the one who is understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. You know what's so wild about that stuff?
The classical Greek word charama, translated as Mark of the Beast in Revelation 13, 16, can also mean any mark engraved, imprinted, or branded, stamped money, can also mean any mark engraved, imprinted, or branded, stamped money, document, or The Mark of the Beast is interpreted differently across the four main views of Christian eschatology.
So, whoever wrote that, like, what was their consciousness like?
Dude, that's some heavy shit.
Like, and it's so specific.
And when you get to the original...
At least, I haven't done it for the Book of Revelations, but the Book of John, it becomes even more intense and more like, wait, what?
Like, in the beginning was the word logos.
Logos.
So you realize suddenly, like, within it...
Is this psychedelic cosmology that in the beginning there was truth, there was this truth, reality, and then that truth manifested, extruded itself into time-space for a second to talk about heaven or to talk about the real reality outside the simulator, whatever you want to call it.
And this is the best and it gets translated in a lot of different ways.
Something like it was a light in the darkness and the darkness did not understand it.
So it's like the truth appears in the darkness.
The darkness is like, I don't, we don't even know what this is.
I can't see it.
I don't, I don't understand it.
And then, and then that was the, like Jesus is a representation of that, the manifestation of that possibility of like pure truth appearing in a world of darkness.
And whoa, dude, that's fucking cool!
Regardless of historical truth or whatever, that's just a beautiful and deep, heavy way of talking about parallel universes or the possibility of things happening on a planet where people have gotten completely lost, where suddenly in the midst of that, something appears that isn't lost, that is like...
A pure representation of a higher consciousness or something.
Sometimes it likes to talk.
It's like putting yourself in one of your sims in SimCity.
You just go down there and you're like, okay, here's what's going on.
And then pop back out.
And then they kill him.
That's the best part.
It's like the, the, and so the book of John, I just looked this up because I'm writing about it.
But the book of John is Matthew, Mark, Luke, synoptic gospels.
They have the same stories in them mostly.
John, not synoptic and has all this weird shit in it.
And not that any of the other stuff isn't weird, but particularly weird stuff in it.
And so those three Gospels, they have within them something that I've always struggled with understanding the logic, which is to be cleansed by the blood of Jesus.
Sacrifice the God, child, drink his blood, sins, cleansed.
Whereas Book of John, it has less of a focus on that or the redemption through the crucifixion and more saying the crucifixion itself was the ultimate.
Because it was the like collision between light and darkness where light, instead of getting aggro, fighting back, just like prayed for the people killing it and died.
And like, dude, you're not gonna sleep at night if you're crucifying somebody who's praying for you, who's like looking at you and loves you, not in a fake bullshit spiritual way, but loves you and knows you, has known you forever and loves you and truly forgives you.
Oh, dude, that fucks the whole game up.
It ruins darkness.
It's the ultimate atom bomb in the face of power.
Yeah, go ahead and kill me.
Dude, it's really cool.
So, you know, regardless, the book of Revelations and all of that stuff, I think it clearly emanates from an expanded consciousness, if nothing else.
Well, I think, you know, I read that controversial book by Reza Aslan about Jesus.
It's pretty good.
It's called, oh geez, Jamie, I'm sorry.
I don't know the name of it.
It's so dumb, man.
I can remember what books say, but I can't remember their titles.
But yeah, he says, apparently there are references to Zealot.
And it's controversial.
I know some people don't like it, but I enjoyed it.
But it says, like, apparently there are references to a Jesus, but never described as Messiah, but as a magician who was going around healing people and stuff.
So there is some reference to the being, but I get so bored with the attempt to find the historic Jesus, because I think it really misses the point altogether.
I think you get so caught up in trying to find the grail or whatever, that you lose track of regardless of the Truth of this being walking the earth, does it change the substance of the parables and their referencing of some realm,
a transcendent realm, a possibility outside the suffering of the mundane world, outside of sucking emperor dicks so you can get a little bit of power.
Actually, there's something in any person's life.
You can just wake up.
And see it, the kingdom of heaven.
Gnosis.
So, to me, I don't care if just a lot of smart people who are trying to convey an ancient cosmology created like a character to embody that.
Because I don't think that was, to me, that's not the point.
I know for a lot of Christians it is, and I don't mean to offend y'all.
It's just, you know, I'm sure any Christian out there, if you're not like wrestling with the Bible anyway...
You should wrestle with it.
It's meant to train you and get into your head and grab you and confuse you.
I mean, then like when you get into like the Torah, Hebrew, when you get into like a lot of the stuff Jesus was referencing, and you realize like not only is it like powerful writing with like incredible parables in it about like ways society collapses or families collapse or life collapses, It also is like mathematical.
Like that, you know, I can't remember the name of it.
There's a whole thing where you, like the number, you know, I know we've talked about this.
And then you see there's an intentionality to that patterning.
And so then you realize like, oh, so like on top of telling these powerful stories, they figured out a way to encode within the powerful stories more information that only people are going to find if they dig deeper that's designed to be there for you if you want it.
Also uncovered was a 6,000 year old skeleton of a partially mummified child and a 10,500 year old basket, which Israeli authorities said could be the oldest in the world.
A CT scan revealed the child's age was between 6 and 12, with the skin, tendons, and even hair partially preserved.
Can we read that among the recovered texts, which are still all in Greek, is Nahum 156, which says, the mountains quake because of him and the hills melt.
The earth heaves before him, the world and all that dwell therein.
Who can stand before his wrath?
Who can resist his fury?
His anger pours out like fire, and rocks are shattered because of him.
It says, the authority said these words differ slightly from other Bible versions, shedding a rare light on how biblical text changed over time from its earliest form.
The Dead Sea Scrolls have a lot of really weird stuff in them.
They used to literally think God was coming, and then when those mushrooms would just appear out of the grass, which, you know, mushrooms grow really quickly.
But yeah, man, I think if you explore the psychedelic universe as an existent place that has its own consciousness, its own mind, and is interested in spreading itself into little bubbles of, I don't know, parts of the universe that have forgotten about it.
But generally, if you see someone wearing a costume and it's not Halloween, you know, or you're not at like a convention, you better watch the fuck out, especially if the person wearing a costume is telling you that they Are such an authority on this subject or that, that you can't even fucking question it.
That your questioning itself is offensive.
Now you gotta watch out because if that's happening, you could be in a cult.
Like if someone's telling that to you, if they're like, we don't even ask that question.
Yeah, that's you better watch the fuck out because that once people start doing that man Yeah, you know they shut down then now they're shutting down the truth or the joy That comes from Turning on the light in the darkness, you know like the joy of when someone comes to you confused Truly confused and you give them like real data that can change their lives You know what I mean?
Now you're ruining that possibility.
Not to mention you're telling people not to trust their rational mind.
The essence of who they are could be off a little bit.
Once you have gone to university for a certain amount of time, gotten deeply into debt to the banks, You were given a credential or a license to practice whatever the particular thing is that you went to school for.
But you essentially have given the banks all this fucking money to get a magic star on your certificate where people know, okay, this person is the real deal.
And that is really fascinating, man.
When I go to a doctor, I want to see some fucking certificates on the wall.
But I have never in my life going to a doctor, like, remembered the certificates and gone home and, like, did he really go to that university?
There's always been these weird people that pretend to be somebody.
It's such a strange thing because it's just like an exercise in how well you can just keep pretending.
You know, because you've got to pretend for a long time and you've got to tell people stories about where you went to school and what hospitals you've worked at.
It's like, we, you know, again, you just have to, like, it's, you realize, like, if all you have to do is put on a costume, and you know Maybe not everybody, but enough people are going to think that you are important or more advanced than them.
I mean, you could certainly, like, sneak in and probably find a costume and, like, get into it and then just walk around Disney World and nobody would know.
An unidentified nurse told investigators, I don't know if he was specifically asking for access to the computer, but he was just mentioning that he doesn't have access, and he was asking how you get access.
Nurses found Bailey's social media account and realized he was not who he said he was.
They reported it right away, and the teenager was escorted out.
His badge was disabled, and the police got involved.
Did you ever see that there was like some YouTube video like people realize if you carry a ladder into a movie theater you don't have to buy tickets.
Like if you walk into a movie theater holding a ladder people just assume you work there and you just like these kids were just filming themselves going into places with a ladder.
It's like the ultimate key to get you in to anywhere.
I mean, fortunately for us, there's like lots of people who aren't, you know, false prophets.
That was the word for it, false prophet.
Like, I think that's in the book of Revelations, the rise of these false prophets who like wear the costume, but they're the opposite of the thing.
And most people I've met, like from the Ram Dass retreats and stuff, certainly my meditation teacher, David Nickturn, If you've just met him, talking to him, you would never know, right away, that he had trained with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, one of the great Buddhist teachers.
He's not putting it out there.
It's not like, you know what I mean?
But then, and other people at those retreats, you forget.
You'll meet these people who've spent their entire lives meditating.
Living in caves in India, but they're wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
So you don't, you just forget for a second.
You think you're talking and then you realize, you will realize because there is a difference.
You know what the closest thing I can point to, it sounds so weird, like the times I've been hanging out with you, every once in a while we'll be hanging out with a UFC fighter or Like some weird seal or something, you know, like some dude who like is like, you know, they come to the UFC, whatever.
So you're hanging out with them and then you realize like this guy is like for someone who like could murder me right now is the nicest guy I ever met in my life.
You know what I mean?
They have this glow.
They have this, like, they're tuned in in this way.
Now, I don't mean to compare spiritual teachers to UFC fighters, but I think what they have in common potentially is discipline.
Like, real rigorous, hardcore, focused discipline upon some system.
And with those teachers, man, there's this, like, glowy...
Non-bullshitty, very authentic quality to them.
Inevitably, you present to them something that's bothering you or whatever, and they have this way of just instantly shifting the energy around it so that you feel like it's manageable.
You realize, fuck man, I had framed this in this horrific way, and they just have this ability to shift that.
Not like in a bullshit way.
Always look on the bright side, kiddo!
But a real compassionate way of like, I feel like you do it to people sometimes, like you see people.
And then sometimes people are really good at seeing people, but they're not good at forgiving what they see, or they're not good at seeing like there's a possibility in anybody to be Happier.
Yeah, right and seeing that possibility They just see the shit that's making them unhappy, you know and focus on that and and and and those people are dicks But like some people can see through that to like where you you could be and And they believe you could get there.
And they do it effortlessly because they've trained themselves in being compassionate.
That's fucking incredible to be around that energy, man.
I mean, it's like a good feeling.
Because like, you know, when you're doing it, it's not like you're all fake, haha, you get serious.
And there's a seriousness to it when they're talking to you, when you're having that kind of conversation.
It's not frothy, necessarily.
But mixed into that seriousness is like they're just trying to get through to you, to show you something.
The Chokim Chop Rinpoche would say, one way you can know is whatever the particular tradition is that's being articulated or whatever the thing is, it should feel like fresh baked bread right out of the oven.
Yeah.
So the energy behind it is like does not feel stale, musty.
When you're around it, it's like even though the traditions they might be connected to are old as fuck, you realize like, oh shit, it's The tradition itself is, like, irrelevant.
Like, what the tradition was pointing to is outside of time.
And so, you know what I mean?
So that's where you, when you're around it, you don't just get the feeling of, like, fresh-baked bread.
You get the feeling of, like, this is, like, cutting edge.
Not only is this, like, right here, right now, in this moment, but, uh, I've been blind to it like I couldn't even see it until like now I'm seeing it and then That the idea behind that is not for you to go to them So you can keep seeing it the idea is like then hopefully that sets you on fire So you your life becomes something like within your life is an attempt to like kind of Remember that or see it or like,
you know recognize it, but this is why we need friends Because you will forget it or I'll forget it.
Yeah, and we need people to like Not like, hey, you sinner or whatever, but like maybe just in the way they are.
It's fucked up because it takes a long time to have good friends.
Years and years and years get invested in an informal way.
Yeah, man.
And that's the thing.
Well, they call it satsang is the name for it, but it's like a spiritual community.
It's a fancy word for a...
A formation that appears in all things.
It doesn't have to be connected to some spirituality.
It's just like this energetic affinity happens between people.
And sometimes you'll meet people and you know them right away.
You feel like you've known them forever.
There's an instant click with some people.
That's the satsang.
It's beautiful.
It's a great name for a very normal thing.
I don't think it's like...
It's not necessarily crazy or like it sounds maybe I'm making it overly spiritual but you know I meet people sometimes and it's like I've known you forever and it's like we're picking up a conversation seemingly that we've been having For like many lifetimes.
And once we get those things synced up, and then there's gonna be no misunderstandings, no miscommunications, and everyone's gonna be held accountable...
I would love to hear an honest, it must exist, an honest story about a person who did that.
Because I could imagine like the beginning phase, you have this idea in your mind.
Well, really the fucking awful idea you have in your mind probably is that money is going to heal all of the emotional trauma that led me to a place where I would manipulate old people for their money.
You know what I mean?
And then you get the money, and then you're faced with that awful realization, like, oh fuck, I'm still fucked up.
And when you get so scared that you're so consumed by your own fear that you...
Allow it to control you to the point that you like become a manipulator or a con artist or grifter or whatever and like behind it is just fucking fear.
It's like you know like you people get mad at the TSA. It's like, you can't really do much worse to the TSA than what they're already doing.
Do you know how bad it sucks, I imagine, to rub down people all day long?
You have to drive to the airport.
You're not going on a vacation.
You're gonna be rubbing the back of your hand against irritated stranger dicks all day long.
And it's like, if a judge sentenced someone to that, That's cruel and unusual punishment.
You would be like, no, you can't do that.
Like that's inhumane.
So it's like with this archetype of person, man, I think like the suffering they're experiencing, the confusion, the lack of security, the uncertainty, the realization at some level of their like inauthenticity.
But if you had escaped that world, and you had made a lot of money, and then all of a sudden you had to go back to it and have a regular job, people feel like they openly could mock you.
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Dude, I don't remember who this was, but Aaron showed me.
I guess one of these people, and again, this is secondhand information.
I didn't read it, but I know she sees this stuff.
Basically, there was some protection that got put in place where if you wanted to watch their video, I don't know what it was.
They were being demonetized.
So they were going to have to go behind a paywall.
And they were, I don't know, they were saying something about Something about pedophiles.
Admitting they knew pedophiles watch those kid videos.
You know what I mean?
And like trying to rationalize the way they were doing it because it was making it harder for the pedophiles to watch kid videos to watch them.
Some crazy shit like that.
But that's the other really fucked up aspect of it is that when you have a huge audience and you're showing your kids in bathing suits, there is a Definite percentage of the audience that are not interested in watching your kids Saturday barbecue or whatever the fuck you're doing Remember don't you remember when like they figured out a way in the YouTube comments they would leave time codes for when the camera was like Instagram
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In other words, so when you're filming your kid and you have a very popular YouTube account featuring your child, you know that when you upload that thing, people are watching your kid and jerking off.
These people maybe know where your kids go to school, where they live.
You know what I mean?
So that is an emergent...
Issue right now for protection.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like one of the weird things as we approach the singularity.
It's like one of the weird cultural issues that haven't been dealt with yet.
Well, I've been very lucky to talk to a lot of people that were famous when they're young, you know from doing this podcast.
Yeah, and I've never met one of them that came out better because of it.
Every one of them is just like struggling to try to figure out why did I get exposed to all these strangers as a child?
Why was I exposed to all that attention as a child when I'm supposed to be developing, interacting with people, trying to figure out how to move my body, how to talk, how to interact?
Watching the video and making commentary on why it's suspicious because apparently you look at the plane and there's stuff that should be in a plane that's not in a plane.
More than two weeks after the crash, he had a friend flew a helicopter to the crash site and airlifted the wreckage to Rancho Sisquak in Santa Barbara County where it was loaded onto a trailer attached to Jacob's pickup truck.
Yeah, he unloaded it in a hangar, drove the wreckage to an airport.
He then cut up and destroyed the airplane wreckage and, over the course of a few days, deposited the attached parts of the wrecked airplane into trash bins in the airport and elsewhere.
Imagine that guy had to plot out where the plane was going to crash, too.
Because he had to be jumping high enough where you can jump.
I don't know what that threshold is, but you've got to be pretty high up there where you can jump and then film yourself before you even pull the parachute, right?
It's interesting because whenever these emerging technologies exist, like social media sites, where you can do things to get attention, you're going to see certain people that They grab hold of it in a very weird way.
Certain sociopathic, psychopathic members of our society who go, I know how to do it.
I am going to pretend to assault people at the mall.
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It's someone who knows how to tell an AI... Or specific instructions that work for some goal.
It's so generally like that's like art maybe like because you know talking to mid-journey which is this insane text-to-art AI like there's a lot like when you like the the amount of weird specificity involved.
It's like society is transforming culturally quicker and quicker and technologically quicker and quicker.
It's like it's going to make these giant changes that are gonna happen at such a rapid rate that it's gonna be hard to remember when they didn't exist before.
Now, because of AI... It's working on things and solving problems so fast that, like, they already...
Jamie, did you see that thing?
It already, like, solved some big problem in medicine.
It's like, it's already, like, figuring shit out that's gonna have direct applications to a human lifespan, curing diseases, and the amount of time it might take to get to that point with human brains Is way, way longer than the AI brain.
Because in the process of giving up the way you source information to artificial intelligence, then just starts to take control over other aspects of your life.
Yeah, just what's on your what's what's going what's on your mind the second man?
It's just like fuck I just you know The fact that like this is a conversation in like the UFO universe that's happening which is watching all these like hardcore I'm still wearing a stethoscope.
I just realized that my thing fell off the like hardcore skeptics hardcore skeptics are now It's just interesting to watch.
And again, until I see a UFO, I'm going to be skeptical.
But it's interesting to watch the gradual shift that's happening in people who are like big-time debunkers.
There is not like, okay, I think they're real, and I don't blame them for saying I don't think they're real, because it's like, really, they're still going off of just people saying it's real.
But the fact that the people saying it, like Marco Rubio coming out now, did you see that shit?
What they're saying is they talk to people who say this.
That's everybody, including Grush.
Grush is saying that he has access to information, and he was aware of information, he was aware of things that the public wasn't aware of, and so he wants to be a whistleblower, because the public deserves to know about these things.
I like to believe that a lot of the sort of careful wording of things right now is to protect people who worry that they'll get killed.
They have a sense of like, "Shit, man, they're going to kill me if I tell you this, but because he did it, I'm going to come out and say it." You know, so I think they feel like, "Shit, we've got to be very, very careful to protect these people." I don't see any benefit for any...
Body in the government to go on statement saying that they've talked to people within the US military who have seen UFOs.
What's the benefit there?
Like, if it's not true, you're going to look like the biggest dipshit on earth.
You're going to be ridiculed.
It's going to ruin your career potentially as a politician.
So I don't see much of a benefit in them coming out and saying that stuff.
That's the part where it's like, I can't trace how Marco Rubio, the next time he runs, he's going to be like, I'm the guy who got tricked into thinking there was UFOs.
You know, where the public demand is like, hey, what is...
Enough people are talking about it.
There's enough...
Whether it's Commander David Fravor, the New York Times article, Jeremy Corbell, all these different videos that get released.
There's enough credible people talking about it that they have to kind of address it.
And if someone like a senator, like Marco Rubio, has a conversation with someone when they're saying, yeah, we have crashed UFOs and we have alien bodies and we're hiding it from the people.
If you are a politician and you realize we've all been briefed on this shit and it is coming out and you other people don't have the guts to come out and say it, you realize to be the first politician who came out and told the truth.
Now there is benefit there.
There's a lot of benefit and like the courage To come out and like support whistleblowers because, dude, I read an analysis of it that's so creepy because it points out that US taxpayer money is being allocated to,
if it's true I'm saying, our taxpayer money is getting allocated to Some organizations that are outside the control of the U.S. government, this is—and has been doing it for 50, 60 years.
This is unconstitutional.
Like, you can't do that.
Like, what does that mean?
That means that there is a second— Power structure within the government, truly like a secret something.
We're paying for it.
And if you're benefiting from the technology, if you're selling the technology to private contractors and making money off of it, that's supposed to be for us.
I heard that Jeremy was on my podcast was talking about how...
I'm sorry, Jeremy, if I'm misquoting you, this is from me, obviously, so forgive me if there's an error in the way I'm saying it, but it's compartmentalized.
So some of the reverse engineering people theoretically don't even know that they're looking at wreckage.
He said part of the problem is science can't exist in a vacuum.
Science is collaborative.
And the metallurgy guys weren't talking to the propulsion guys.
Nobody talked to anybody.
You had an area where you're allowed to go and look at the vehicle and you were with your other teammate and everybody reported on everything that was said and done.
And it was too limited for them to ever really figure out in his belief at that time.
So we're talking about 1989. If what he's saying is true, what he was saying was that they were bringing him to this area and he couldn't tell his wife, he couldn't tell anybody where he was going, and they were flying him to area S4 where they had this UFO. They didn't have just one.
They had multiple ones.
And this sort of aligns with what Grush was saying.
Because I think what Grush was saying is that there's 12 of them.
You know, it's one of my favorite current conspiracy theories.
And admittedly, conspiracy theory.
In other words, it's just cool.
I don't necessarily believe it.
But basically the idea, like the gate program, apparently...
And I looked it up, and there does seem to be some connection, was sort of funded by the feds, who, like, it was definitely somehow involved with the government, basically not where it goes into conspiracy land.
The idea is they wanted to find people, kids, early on who demonstrated certain traits that then they could hire to work in intelligence.
It's a grooming program for intelligence, basically.
And again, I just love these things.
If they're real or not, it's still cool.
So there's all these aspects of people who are in it, like an occipital bulb.
People who are in it, they have this bump on the back of their head, weird marks.
And if there were voids within the earth, and there was like some kind of heat source, whatever it is, and it gets hotter down there, and maybe some water didn't just make it into the...
So if there were water down there, a heat source, and also if there was like some flow of water seeping in from, you know, the surface, theoretically...
Theoretically, some life form could evolve down there just like we did.
Michael Knowles, I didn't watch the video, but it was one of those things where the headline of the YouTube video, it's like, on the Michael Knowles show, it's something about aliens are, confirms aliens are demonic.
Yeah, but he was talking to somebody that, like, I think he was talking to Lou Elizondo, right, who is a part of the program, the ATIP program, one of those UFO research programs, but there was this video about it.
Do I need to make a feature-length documentary called What is a Demon to teach Matt Walsh blog that extraterrestrial aliens aren't real?
The evidence that we can get a hold of is all anecdotal.
It's all people talking about these things.
Until it passes that, I'm on this, huh, I'm interested, but I'm not believing you yet.
Same.
If you know about MKUltra, if you know that they did that and they didn't get punished for it, those people just died.
So what happens?
Does it evolve or does it stop?
Most things evolve.
When you go back to Eisenhower warning about the military-industrial complex, he was warning about it then.
It was an emerging thing that he was worrying about.
Well, that evolves to now control the government.
So does MKUltra and mine control, does that evolve?
Of course it evolves.
It doesn't stop dead there.
And if I was going to get people captivated, I would start talking about all these things that we have, all these fucking amazing crafts that we've recovered, but not show you jack shit.
I have a lot of people talking about it, and maybe this is just a preliminary step to showing you the stuff.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm wrong, and these are like real patriots that think the American public needs to know.
People have lived and died and not have this information, and it's your duty as a patriot, it's your duty as a human being, as a citizen of Earth, to let everyone know that we are being visited.
Also, you might be covering up for the military-industrial complex that's figured out a way to make hypersonic drones that look and behave like something that was created on another planet.
Because they funded these researchers under some guise of a hedge phone company and flown in all these physicists and give them a lot of money to shut the fuck up and top secret clearance, which you can't violate or you get put in jail.
And next thing you know, you're developing some sort of magnetic propulsion system that can rocket things through the sky silently, instantaneously.
I was trying to find where I saw it, but recently, in the last few days, I saw someone, I think they were in the government, saying a similar version to this, and that there is a date that they have been told, and that if they tell everyone the date, it will freak people out, so there's a fight about talking about this date.
You want to hear, like, a rational, educated scientist that's warning you about the very specific details of what human beings and our pollution is doing to the world?
Like, here's science and graphs and data.
Instead, you're sending a kid that, like, got famous for saying, how dare you?
Mercury poisoning and and this is Newtonian physics and it's like this This is new look at Tesla He's like fucking like on a date thinking about Faust seeing a vision of like alternating current engine, right?
These are the people who warped society permanently.
There was nothing tame domesticated or normal about them Like imagine if you if like I invite you over I'm like Joe come into my I want to show you something I'm working on It's, you know, the Temple of Solomon from the Bible.
I think it's a code.
I think it's a code I could use to crack the source of all reality.
And I feel like it has something to do with mercury.
I'm just not sure what.
So I've been pouring mercury onto this replica of the Temple of Solomon.
This thing has emerged with the domesticated normal scientist or that science is somehow filled with just very normal, completely professional people when the history of it seems to be littered With maniacs.
It's supposed to be a balabushka, which is a handmade cue by this guy who is the master of the great cues.
Like, when you go back to guys like...
See, that's Eddie Cohen's...
Eddie Cohen is like a real modern-day Elite pool cue maker and he made a version like a color of money version, but that's the that's the cue that Joss made and you could buy it It's not like I mean, it's a good playing cue.
It's it plays good, but it's not a pal Bushka pal Bushka was a Handmade cue by this guy who was a master.
Yeah, who yeah?
I mean they would ages would he would ages wood for years And slowly turn them down.
You'd have stacks of wood that had been air drying for seven years before you cut them into cues.
That's an old Balabushka, so what that is is a Titleist.
And what a Titleist is is a house cue.
So you buy a house cue, and a lot of those really old house cues from like the 50s, They converted them into pool cues, like two-piece cues that you could bring with you.
That was a very popular cue because it's a full splice, meaning the contact, wood-to-wood contact of the two joints is like, it's the old method that they used to use.
What is the, like, this is probably a dumb question because I don't know enough about pool, but what, like, if two equally matched players are playing, and one of them has one of those, and another one has just, like, a basic pool cue, how much of an advantage would the person with a really nice pool cue?
The pool cue, once you become accustomed to it, you know what it does.
So every pool cue has a certain amount of flex.
Every pool cue has a certain amount of weight to it.
There's a balance.
They're all different.
But once your arm and your stroking arm becomes accustomed to the balance, Then it can accurately determine the amount of force that it has to apply to the ball in order to get the proper rotations of the ball for it to align where you need to land your next shot.
Like, you could just see how, like, you would just—there was a—oh, I wish I could—it's so sad I can't remember the name of this club because their green room is incredible.
Sorry.
They have a pool table in there.
We would fuck around, which was never fun for you, I'm sure, because I'm horrible.
When you're lined up on a shot, the only thing you're thinking about is that shot.
It helps me a lot with stress.
Because I have so many things going on simultaneously that would require my attention.
That if I have an activity, whether it's archery, martial arts, or pool, where you cannot think of anything other than that activity while you're engaging in it, it's very beneficial.
Bryan Simpson was explaining Diablo, and he started showing the new Diablo on the screen, and he's explaining how it all goes down, and I was just seeing my fucking time getting sucked away into this goddamn game.
This is also, like, if you're into games right now, this is like the apocalypse, because, like, the new Zelda came out, and then Blizzard puts out the new fucking Diablo.