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June 6, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1994 - Theo Von
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joe rogan
Austin, Texas.
What a pop you got last night.
That was a lot of pressure.
theo von
That was a lot of pressure.
joe rogan
They went crazy.
One of the nice things about these shows that we do is that no one knows who's going to be on them.
These Joe Rogan and Friends shows.
So it could be a surprise.
You were surprised last night.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we got video of it.
Is it on the Mothergram Mothership Instagram?
jamie vernon
That's actually a better name.
It should be the Mothergram.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
theo von
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Do they have a pop?
Here we go Bro you got a standing oh, what's up?
unidentified
I?
theo von
Crazy, dude.
joe rogan
You spent the first 30 seconds of your set high-fiving people.
Come on, son.
Look at this.
Look at this.
theo von
It was crazy.
Some dude threw some semen up at me, I think.
joe rogan
Real semen?
theo von
Like in that movie, Silence of the Lambs.
Yeah, I don't know if it was real or not.
joe rogan
Yeah, Migs is the guy locked in the cell.
theo von
Yeah, I batted it down.
I respected it.
Dude, that was awesome, man.
Thank you.
Congrats.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
theo von
Congrats, because I remember last time I was here, we went and you walked me through and you're like, this is where the light's gonna go when you go on.
You had everything to it to.
joe rogan
How long ago was that?
theo von
That was last July.
joe rogan
Okay.
So last July, there was...
We hadn't even raised the floors yet, right?
theo von
Y'all were just talking about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was before we lowered the ceiling and raised the floors.
So you got in when it looked like a movie theater.
It still looked like the old movie theater, right?
theo von
Yeah, I think you were just talking about adjusting the floor heights and doing something like that.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, that was crazy.
That was a highlight of my life, I think.
joe rogan
I think so, too.
theo von
Because you get to be a surprise.
Like, there's not as much surprises anymore in the world, you know?
joe rogan
It's true.
theo von
So to have a moment where you're like part of a surprise, I think, felt really good.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it looked like.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when you were there, it was all rough and everything was, you know, just beginning.
So you were there in the early days.
It's weird to be in there now because, I mean, I don't want to sound crazy, but I feel like that place has always been there.
It's weird.
theo von
Like the club has always been there?
joe rogan
Yeah, the club.
It's like it was waiting for us.
Like a Stephen King book.
For real.
I've never been in a building that felt more like it was conscious.
The place feels conscious.
My daughter's into ghosts and shit, and she has this thing that she puts on, this headphone that's connected to some box, and someone will ask questions, and the box will pick up random signals, and you're blindfolded and you listen to this.
And so they do this to test places for ghosts, and she says that place is haunted.
theo von
She said the club is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
Oh, I believe that.
I could see it being haunted probably.
She's also 12. Well, I'm older than her, but I would agree with her probably.
I mean, I could see there being...
I will say this.
It felt like there was some kind of...
It felt...
I can understand when you say like this feels like it should have been there over time in history.
Like it's already like was just supposed to land there.
You know?
joe rogan
That's what it feels like.
It really does.
theo von
It was cool, man.
I walked into the green.
It was just crazy.
There's like that big snake.
There's like a snake in the table.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
And then they had Ron White is sitting there.
You know?
And then Tom Segura was in there.
Dave Attell was in there.
Louie Katz.
Crazy.
Ian...
I don't know Ian's last name, but...
Yeah, dude, it was awesome, man.
And just to see it come to fruition, I think that's the thing that was really exciting.
It was like, wow, if somebody thinks about something and they're really focused on it, that they can make something real.
joe rogan
You can actually make something happen.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I've never done that before.
This is the first time I've ever done that.
theo von
Yeah, I think it was inspiring, probably in ways I don't even realize.
Because sometimes you get inspired and then it just hits you later, you know?
But it was awesome, man.
Thank you.
It was cool.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
theo von
Yeah, you did.
I mean, yeah, you guys are making it happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's crazy.
theo von
It is.
joe rogan
Yeah, but, you know.
I always kind of knew you could do something like that, but doing it, actually doing it and actually watching it take place.
And doing it like relatively low stress.
It was relatively low stress.
Except for a few issues that you have to deal with at the club.
It's not a big deal.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
theo von
And y'all don't have food, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a big one.
Fuck food.
theo von
Yeah, all the condiments and all of that just stains everything and gets on everything, I feel like.
joe rogan
Not only that, you get roaches and all kinds of other shit.
theo von
Roaches love ketchup, I bet.
joe rogan
Do they?
theo von
Everybody loves ketchup.
joe rogan
I like ketchup on hot dogs.
theo von
Oh, dude, I bet if you could really get it out of a roach, if you fucking tickled him hard enough, he'd tell you he liked it.
joe rogan
I like relish!
Relish is my favorite.
Yeah, but we got food next door on both sides of us.
theo von
Yeah, they got everything.
joe rogan
Shitty Mexican food and shitty pizza.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
Just what comics deserve, too.
joe rogan
We got some good pizza last night, though.
I'm not eating it, but Attell got something from some high-end pizza place.
Hoboken something pizza something.
theo von
He's the funniest man.
Yeah, they had...
A lot of ghost stuff.
I grew up in Louisiana, right?
And so ghosts and stuff was a big part of the history, especially in the South.
joe rogan
What do you think a ghost is?
theo von
A ghost?
Probably just some busybody that just didn't get all their stuff done.
joe rogan
Ooh, they were lazy when they were alive, so they'd hang around after life.
You know what it's like?
It's like those dudes who would hang around the high school after they already graduated.
Like, what are you doing, loser?
theo von
Yeah, look at this ghost over here.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at this ghost.
theo von
Oh, they had a dude who would bring, like, who was always dating, like, an underage chick, and he'd come and, like, hand the McDonald's over the fence at our school.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
theo von
How old was he?
Oh, everybody thought he was damn Prince Charles.
Everybody thought he was, like, the luckiest guy in the world.
But, yeah, he was older.
He just, like, was an adult.
joe rogan
Like a 20-year-old adult or, like, a 30-year-old adult?
It gets exponentially creepier.
theo von
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
If you just graduated and you're 18 and your girlfriend is 17, that shit is completely normal.
But if you're 19 and she's 17, people start to look a little sideways.
That extra 12 months makes a big difference.
If you're 20, And she's 17. People will get very upset with you.
Even in places where it's legal.
Where it is legal in a few places, which is kind of weird.
theo von
Yeah.
And if you are 35 and she's 17, you can't be a comedian anymore.
unidentified
I'll tell you that.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
theo von
I don't know.
I don't know.
Who knows?
I don't know.
joe rogan
But it's weird, like, what's legal versus what's okay.
Like, it really depends on men, right?
Because with men, like, if a 17-year-old boy, if some 40-year-old lady fucks a 17-year-old boy, I'm like, alright, dude, how was it?
Is she crazy?
What's going on?
If she's hot and he's not coerced and drugged, who cares?
But if a 40-year-old man is banging a 17-year-old girl, I get very upset.
theo von
Yep.
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's a very different standard for men and women.
theo von
Well, now I think a lot of women can be like...
They can manipulate men, too.
joe rogan
Of course they can.
theo von
They've always been able to do that.
Right, but that never really kind of gets brought into context.
Like, a lot of older teacher women...
They can manipulate a young fella.
joe rogan
Oh, they're getting busted all the time.
They're always getting busted.
But they get this.
They get, don't do that again.
Hey, stop blowing kids.
That's what they get.
They get a little slap on the wrist.
theo von
They don't go to jail.
joe rogan
Do they go to jail for blowing kids?
No.
theo von
You think they don't?
joe rogan
No, I think they have a little fucking trial and everything.
And they go, hey, get out of here.
Just go.
Crazy dick sucker.
theo von
Yeah, we're gonna get you an Uber.
You need to go home.
joe rogan
Unless she's trying to get the 17-year-old to impregnate her.
Then you need to go to jail, you freaky bitch.
Yeah, I think I'm- Ruined some 17-year-old's life.
theo von
With a kid, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, not just a kid, a kid with you.
You know, he doesn't know what's going on.
He's just trying to bust a nut.
Then all of a sudden he has the responsibility of raising a child and you're making him get a job and he's gonna fucking pay bills.
What about his future?
theo von
He's gonna fail science, I know that.
unidentified
Why?
theo von
Just because he's not going to be able to do it all.
He's not going to be able to have the job and get to school and do it all and take care of the kid.
I don't think a child, you know...
joe rogan
Well, good news is it takes nine months for the kid to come out.
So you have nine months of prep time where you get your shit together.
theo von
Do a lot of men, you think, use that time to really grow up when that's that?
You think that's why God made it that long of a time period?
joe rogan
I do not think God had men in mind when he was doing that.
No.
If there is a god, I think they just wanted to make sure that the baby's a complicated organism.
Very complicated.
More complicated than any other child of any other animal that's ever been born.
Human babies are the weirdest.
theo von
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why they come out so vulnerable.
Every other animal comes out and they can move around.
For the most part.
Although I did see a deer just a couple of days ago on my street.
I was going for a walk and the mama deer bounced off a little and I saw this little tiny baby deer squatted down and laid down in the grass.
Because that's what they do when they're really, really young.
b-real
Because they can't run away from anything.
joe rogan
So their best strategy is to kind of blend in and hide.
That's why they have those white dots all over their body.
The white dots, like say if they're in grass, the white dots obscure their shape.
So predators might not see.
And I think there's something about their smell.
Google that.
We finally have internet again.
Google what is the smell of newborn fawns.
Because I think there's like some strategy that nature has with their smell.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, the baby deer has no scent.
So predators that may depend on their sense of smell have difficulty finding the young deer.
The mother, always close at hand, tends to circle back towards where her baby lies to get the attention of the predator.
Yeah, that's what they did with us.
theo von
They're like that...
Oh, it's false.
joe rogan
It says it's false.
Oh, this one's...
Where the fuck is the first one from?
The Henderson State University.
What a shit fucking university.
No, go to the top.
Is that where it's from?
What a fucking...
Hey, I got my fucking degree from Henderson.
Dan Henderson.
He's the principal.
I asked him what baby deer smell like.
He goes, what are you, a fucking douchebag smelling deers?
This is false.
Oh, a fucking pop-up for a fucking outdoor tactical backpack.
This is false.
Their unique scent is how their mothers identify them.
In fact, they urinate on their tarsal glands daily, even when just a few days old.
theo von
Oh, they're freaks, man.
joe rogan
They're pissing on themselves, going crazy.
Elk piss on themselves when they're horny.
theo von
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, the dick is hard, and the dick flops up and down when they scream.
unidentified
They go...
joe rogan
They're dick flops and they start pissing all over themselves.
They piss all over themselves.
theo von
I've never been that.
joe rogan
Look at this guy.
theo von
I've never been that horny.
joe rogan
This dude's horny as fuck.
And he's a young fella.
That's not a big elk.
Even though they're big, because they're all big.
But that is like a...
A smaller elk.
That's like a 300-inch elk.
If I had to guess.
Cam Haynes might correct me.
Look at his dick, though.
He's got a dick.
Yeah, fucking.
Scratching on the ground.
And he's trying to get his scent everywhere.
theo von
He's got that limb on him, huh?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Look, he's got his dicks flopping around.
See, he's pissing all over himself.
theo von
And then he's laying around.
joe rogan
He's like, oh, they want to fuck so bad.
theo von
That's Joe's juice right there.
That thing is serving, huh?
joe rogan
You know what's crazy about them?
They're only horny like that for like a month.
theo von
Yeah, thank God, dude.
They would ruin a schoolyard.
Oh, they do ruin schoolyards.
unidentified
If they ran onto a schoolyard.
joe rogan
If they're horny and people get stupid, oh, take a selfie.
They get fucking speared.
Like a 700-pound super athlete.
theo von
I would hate having that much wiener, I feel like.
joe rogan
Really?
You don't know until you have it.
You just have to find the right gals.
theo von
No, I don't think so.
You think so?
joe rogan
I think so.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't show me this.
Don't show me this.
jamie vernon
I think this one was okay.
This actually wasn't the one I was looking for.
joe rogan
Oh, you crazy bitch.
Get the fuck away from that thing.
jamie vernon
Jesus Christ.
The bison kind of attacked, but it didn't keep attacking.
joe rogan
Why are people so goddamn stupid for the gram?
You know how many people have died taking selfies?
I saw this video the other day on Instagram of this lady who died taking a selfie on the side of a cliff.
theo von
And can you imagine, too, because you know what's going on.
There's a moment where you realize, oh, I'm taking a selfie and I'm going to die.
joe rogan
No, I don't think they realize it until it's too late.
jamie vernon
See, she was posing for a picture here and the bison sort of just said, get the fuck away from me.
joe rogan
Yeah, he just gave her a little of that.
unidentified
Like, get the fuck away.
joe rogan
Look at her.
She's so uncoordinated.
With her stupid backpack filled with fucking Capri Suns.
unidentified
It's falling down.
joe rogan
Fucking potato chips in her backpack and shit.
theo von
Oh, dude.
I saw a monkey and a young black woman fight over a bag of chips.
There's a bunch of those if you look up.
Monkeys will steal your shit.
Cambodia, yeah.
They don't care.
joe rogan
They will steal your shit.
They run up on your table and steal your food right off your plate.
unidentified
Fuck you.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
Give me that sandwich.
And they just run off with it.
theo von
They don't care, man.
joe rogan
They don't care.
Did you hear about, was it India where the monkeys started jacking puppies?
In India, a dog killed a monkey, so these monkeys went on a rampage and started chucking puppies off roofs.
They would carry puppies to the top of roofs and were like, right!
Fucking chuck them off the roofs.
theo von
Like a Maltese.
joe rogan
Yeah, monkeys blamed for hundreds of puppy deaths captured in India.
So they'd bring them up to the top of a fucking building and throw them.
Villagers claim animals were carrying out revenge killings after dogs killed an infant monkey.
Speaking of which, have you seen what's going on with orcas?
theo von
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
So a female orca, the matriarch, the head of this female orca pack.
Uh-huh.
The head of this orca pack.
theo von
When you say orcas, what are you talking about?
joe rogan
Killer whales.
theo von
Oh, damn.
All right.
joe rogan
That's an orca.
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
So they started sinking boats.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
And they're teaching each other how to sink boats.
Apparently this boat fucked up one of these orcs.
Because sometimes what happens is something will go wrong and a propeller will hit.
They've happened all the time with sharks.
It's happened with whales.
Propellers will fuck up a dolphin.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
My friend Dave got pushed off a boat and he got hit by it.
We went over him.
He got pushed off the front.
joe rogan
Oh, jeez.
theo von
And it fucking hit him.
I'm not sure.
He wasn't that great to start off with, but it didn't help him.
But I don't think it harmed him much.
joe rogan
It helps some people.
Some people get whacked and it helps them.
Kenison and Roseanne are my two favorite examples.
unidentified
They both get hit by cars.
joe rogan
Wildest people I know.
Well, I don't know Kenison, but I know Roseanne real well.
She got hit by a fucking car when she was 15. Bad.
She was in a mental institution for nine months afterwards.
She was a straight-A student.
She couldn't count afterwards.
She couldn't do math.
Couldn't do anything.
theo von
That's unreal.
joe rogan
The lady, she was driving towards the sun, and the lady couldn't see.
And Roseanne walked right into the street when she was 15 and got fucking clipped.
Buy a car from back then, you know those big ol' fuckin' sleds.
theo von
Oh, this thing's minted.
joe rogan
Caprice or something like that, some giant fuckin'...
theo von
Those LTDs or whatever?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some big-ass stupid fuckin' car just cracked her.
So this is an orca attack in Portugal.
So they started doing this.
Does it say they both suddenly, something hit us.
So this is from 2021. But what I'm talking about is very recently.
jamie vernon
This was in the article that was explaining it.
This is just an example of it, like they caught on tape.
joe rogan
So it's happening quite a bit off the Iberian coast.
The Iberian orcas has taught at least nine other whales to attack and destroy rudders.
theo von
Wow, so it's like a Middle Eastern thing?
joe rogan
I just think it's a thing with a particular area where the orcas in that particular area have had problems with people.
theo von
I see.
joe rogan
And so they've decided to let them know who the fuck is the boss.
theo von
Take action.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fucking up people's boats.
jamie vernon
It's hard to tell what's happening in the video, but they explain.
joe rogan
Bro, I'd bring fish.
I'd be like, I'm not that dude, I'm your friend.
Here's a mackerel.
theo von
Here's a mackerel.
Here's a can of tuna.
I would bring them.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they might be a little upset about the can.
theo von
I'd put it on a plate.
I'd plate it for them.
joe rogan
I don't think they like plates either.
theo von
Oh, that's a good point.
joe rogan
Actual full mackerel is the way to go.
You know, tuna's just for us.
Like tuna fish in a can.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that that one fish we decided to just fucking can up all the time?
Like turn into sandwiches, everything.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like tuna salad, tuna this, tuna that.
It's all tuna.
theo von
Yeah, tuna really got the, it's gotten the brunt of it, huh?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
theo von
I bet other fish are like, ugh.
joe rogan
Thank god we're not tuna.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, they're like the most canned fish ever.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
Like, what gets canned?
They can some salmon.
theo von
Yeah, but canned salmon, I think, is a little pricier, too.
joe rogan
Much more.
There's a really good company, I forget what the company's called, but they do wild-caught.
They all do line-caught salmon, so you get wild salmon, not raised, and then they can it.
theo von
Mmm.
joe rogan
So it's real good for you.
theo von
My sister used to have a bass that was in their house, and it was like, it couldn't even turn around in the tank.
joe rogan
Oh, that's fucked up.
theo von
I don't think it minded.
joe rogan
I bet it did.
theo von
I don't know.
joe rogan
Of course it did.
theo von
It lived there for a long time.
joe rogan
That's what they say to guys in solitary.
I don't think he minds.
theo von
Oh, yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
He's by himself in there.
Especially if it's a bass, he can't talk to him.
You know, he's probably like, get me the fuck out of here!
unidentified
I want to be on a lake!
joe rogan
I want to be eating frogs, you cunt!
theo von
He's just watching cops out of one eye with my sister.
joe rogan
He's watching 90 Day Fiance.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
Keep me in this goddamn bowl.
I'm a bass.
Stupid fuck.
I used to have piranhas.
theo von
Yeah, of course you did, man.
Who doesn't think you did?
joe rogan
I had this one house that I lived in when I was living by myself.
There's like an indoor courtyard to this house and I literally actually consulted construction people.
I was gonna create like a miniature Jurassic Park in this courtyard.
I was gonna seal it off and put crocodile monitors in and have like a little hatch where I can release a rabbit.
theo von
And watch them kill it?
joe rogan
And watch them kill it, yeah.
But then I had like a come-to-Jesus moment.
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why do you want to do that?
theo von
Oh, I think it would be...
I would like to have a small something like that maybe in the home, you know?
joe rogan
I did like to have in the piranhas.
theo von
And was that where you...
And were you...
Was it like a goal of yours, do you think?
Or were you just like, okay, this is my first place.
I want to design it how I want.
Or were you just...
Because that's a big thing to think about.
joe rogan
It was my first getting money.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
First thing I got with money, I got a nice car.
I'm like, ooh, got a nice car now.
And then I was like, what other shit can I have?
I didn't have any responsibilities back then.
I was 27. Free.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Free as a bird.
And I just was buying stupid shit.
You know, I had three pit bulls.
theo von
Dang, bro, that's sick, man.
joe rogan
They were great dogs, though.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're the best dogs, man.
Well, I don't say that.
My dog is the best dog.
The Golden Retriever, they're the best pet ever.
They're just so full of love.
But there's something about pit bulls, man.
They're just so loyal.
theo von
They love you so much.
Really?
You think more than a different type of dog?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
theo von
I wonder if we could tell...
I wish we could tell how much dogs love us or not, you know?
joe rogan
My dog is, like, so domesticated.
He's so sweet, and he's not, like, remotely threatening to anybody.
Anybody who comes over to the house, you're my best friend!
Like, if you come over to my house tonight, he'd be like, Theo!
He'd be, like, so happy.
He'd be whining and running around you in circles and stuff.
He just loves everybody.
theo von
Wow.
joe rogan
But pit bulls are, like...
They just have so much more tenacity.
They're so angry.
They're just so full of fucking...
And they just want to play and just want to kiss you.
They're so full of life.
theo von
Yeah, they'll fucking hug you till you're dead.
joe rogan
When I would come home from work, my dogs would literally just jump on me.
Just jump on me.
I would lay on the ground.
They would just swarm me and kiss me.
theo von
Yeah, they almost have ground game a little bit, huh?
joe rogan
They got a little ground game.
I used to teach them.
I'd get side control on them.
I'd teach them how to hip escape.
unidentified
I'd be like, bro, you gotta put your paw here.
joe rogan
Gotta create space.
I get him in a rear naked choke.
theo von
I take his back.
joe rogan
He loved it.
theo von
Dude, my friend, when I was working, when I was in the busboy industry a long time ago, you know, and the first gay I ever met, the first gay dude I ever met, this dude, Billy Conforto.
joe rogan
How old were you?
theo von
I was probably 14, right?
joe rogan
That was the first gay you ever met.
theo von
Yeah, that ever met straight on.
joe rogan
Was he 14 too?
theo von
No, no, he was probably 30. So, and he was like the toughest gay dude, so he could like fight and he was gay.
Nobody had ever seen it.
joe rogan
That's scary for a homophobe.
theo von
Oh, totally.
joe rogan
Some dude will fuck you up and suck your dick.
theo von
Oh, that's the biggest fear.
joe rogan
Or make you suck his.
theo von
That's the crazy part.
With no teeth?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He punches all your teeth out.
theo von
Oh, that's gotta be crazy.
So that changed the game for a lot of homophos because they're like, who's this queer, you know?
And then you're like, oh, if that dude knocks me out and then makes love to me, it's going to be an 0 for 2 tonight, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's more than two points.
That's like a 10-8 round.
theo von
But Billy had pitbulls, and he sold weed and everything, and we'd get so high, and then I would get so scared of the dogs, man, that I had to go outside a lot of times.
Because I couldn't.
He'd be a lot more comfortable around him and stuff, but I would get high.
And then I would just get scared around the dogs.
joe rogan
Well, it's a dog that can kill you.
That's what's crazy.
They're real sweet and everything, and if you get a good one, you train them right and raise them right.
They're so loyal and they're so affectionate, but the power that they have is so wild.
theo von
Yeah, I mean, Billy would put on like an Adidas tracksuit and make them like attack things in his yard and shit.
So he was like...
joe rogan
So he was training them to be like that.
theo von
He was, but he also loved them, but he like also was like from a tough area.
So, you know, there was a value in having the dogs be tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of people that have that, right?
They have dogs that are just protection around their house all the time.
If you live in a rough area, there's no better thing than dogs.
They let you know when people are there, everyone's scared of them.
It's not, you know, they'd rather break into a house that doesn't have dogs.
theo von
A lot of people, if they didn't have a dad, they would have a dog, you know?
joe rogan
I guess, yeah.
Yeah, if you're young, yeah, you have a few dogs.
theo von
The wife would get a dog a lot of times if they didn't have a husband, I remember.
But there was a lot of dangerous dogs in my neighborhood growing up.
joe rogan
The problem is when they get loose.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
When you have dangerous dogs, you don't do a good job of containing them.
I was always worried about my dog getting out.
My dog, Frank Sinatra, he was...
He was a pit bull that was bred for hog hunting in Hawaii.
They breed them different.
They actually have longer ears.
It's really interesting.
They're almost like Labrador ears.
Because the whole idea is that they're picking up scent.
You know, dogs pick up scent with their ears.
That's why bloodhounds have those crazy long ears.
theo von
Really?
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
As they're running, it's like, you know how you fart and you waft up the smell?
Like, ooh, what is that?
Jesus Christ.
Well, dogs are doing that with their ears as they're running.
They're wafting up these scents.
So they could pick up little minuscule particles of scents as they're wafting up.
And my pit bull had longer ears.
He had ears almost like a Labrador, but he was a pure pit bull.
Big fucking head, just jacked body.
And he would, oh, like dogs would come, like dogs that were loose would come to the fence and fuck with them.
And he would go crazy.
He just couldn't get to them and they would be fucking with him.
And one dog pissed on his fence, like just lifted his leg off.
A Labrador came by, pissed on his fence.
And so he started slamming his head into the metal bars.
Like his wrought iron metal bars.
And he slams his head into the bar.
And he's like mostly head, right?
Pitbulls are like 50% head.
And he's just like fucking...
He gets his fucking head through and I hear all this noise and I'm alone in the house and then I hear I hear this noise and I look out the window and I see Frank with his head like wedged between the bars and I see this dog right outside the gate that was pissing and I was like oh my god he's gonna get out and so I run up to the up to the fence and I get to him right when his ass pops through the he bent the bars he got out and And so it's me running down the street in my socks,
chasing this dog.
theo von
Fucking Andy Dufranc, baby.
joe rogan
He plowed this dog right into a pile of trash cans, right in my neighbor's trash cans, and I got a hold of his collar right before it got ugly.
I'm like, motherfucker.
So then I had to have another bar welded all around the perimeter of my fence to keep him from separating the bars.
So this Israeli dude came over here.
And he was the welder guy, the fence guy.
And he's like, what happened to your fence?
And I said, the dog did it.
He goes, this fucking fence?
This dog bent this fucking fence with his head?
I go, yeah, the dog peed out there.
He goes, bro.
I go, yeah, that's a crazy dog.
It's a different kind of dog.
theo von
Oh, that's Mike Perry, dude.
It's a different kind of dog.
joe rogan
Different kind of dog.
They don't care about pain.
Pain doesn't mean a fucking thing to them.
They just want to get you.
They just want to get out.
I think the dog was being friendly.
He'd be like, oh, smell my pee.
You know, he's a Labrador.
theo von
Right, he's just like goofing around.
I'm like, I'll piss over here.
He thought he was in a frat.
joe rogan
He's like, oh, I'm gonna see you again.
Probably didn't even know what a pit bull was.
Yeah.
This dog's a lot louder than me.
What's going on over here?
unidentified
Oh God, that dog has a chain.
joe rogan
I had this one neighbor that had a dog that he never trained.
I mean, at all.
It was basically a wild dog that he fed.
It was a boxer.
And this dog wouldn't listen to anybody.
When they leave him in the house, like if they left the screen, so like they left the door open the screen, the dog would just fly through the screen, just burst through the screen and go out.
And then he'd come home when he was ready.
theo von
And the dog, he just had his own plan or whatever?
joe rogan
They were just idiots.
They were really frustrated.
Oh, look at this dog.
Is that a pit bull too?
Yeah.
Look at him.
That's what he did.
That's what my dog did.
Oh, yeah.
He'd bend the bars, man.
Yeah, they're a different kind of animal.
You gotta really make sure that your perimeter is secure with a dog like that.
But this dog was not a dangerous dog, it was just a little boxer.
theo von
I think I just got so nervous, I think just like, I would be so nervous around them, you know?
joe rogan
But you should be if they're not trained well.
theo von
And we didn't grow up around any dogs.
Except for dogs that were in our neighborhood.
And they were more violent animals.
We didn't have any dogs in our home or any experience around dogs.
I remember the first time I ever even met an indoor dog.
I didn't know a dog could even be indoors, right?
And I was at my buddy Scott's house and They had a golden retriever.
And this bitch came around the corner, dude, and I was like, who in the fuck is that?
I mean, it was like the most beautiful thing.
I mean, it was just like fluffy and gorgeous.
Fucking long blonde hair.
It was like Suzanne Somers, dude, just coming.
unidentified
And I was like, damn, that thing is fucking fine, you know?
joe rogan
Suzanne Somers.
theo von
I just never seen a dog look like they had gotten a good night's sleep, you know?
joe rogan
Remember Suzanne Somers with the Thighmaster?
All she had was this spring to just tighten up your pussy muscle, because that's what you're doing.
It's not squatting for your butt.
It's not lunges.
You're just tightening up them pussy muscles.
Oh, dude.
theo von
Squeeze that dick.
That thing's going to gleek by the time you get done with it, dude.
joe rogan
See if you can find the ad for the Thighmaster.
A lot of ladies bought that, too, because they wanted to look like Suzanne Somers.
Look, it's just a spring.
She's still looking good.
She's like a thousand years old.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
She still looks really good in my head.
joe rogan
One of the biggest blunders in all of television, though.
Her and Three's Company.
theo von
Three's Company.
That was a great show.
What happened to it?
joe rogan
Crazy negotiations.
She wanted more money.
She was demanding more money because she had become a giant star.
And so they basically relegated her to...
She wasn't even on the show anymore.
There was one episode where she made a phone call and she called them.
She was on vacation.
That was her in the episode.
Her in some totally different location calling them on the phone.
theo von
Wow.
joe rogan
And then they eventually replaced her.
theo von
Yeah, I remember they got a new woman.
joe rogan
I think it was like...
She got an aggressive agent.
It might have been a husband, one of those deals.
I was like, I got this.
I'm gonna fucking...
You deserve more money.
It's just like what happened with Call Her Daddy.
That's a similar situation.
You know the Call Her Daddy podcast?
theo von
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Alex...
What's her name?
No.
Alex Cooper, yeah.
joe rogan
She had a co-host.
theo von
Right.
joe rogan
And the co-host had a boyfriend who was an agent.
theo von
Something Franklin.
Sophia Franklin?
joe rogan
Is that it?
unidentified
You got it.
joe rogan
And then Portnoy told us the whole story.
theo von
Oh, he did?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was like, the dude thought that, like, she's gonna be this, she's a fucking star, you need to pay her more, and, like, you know, they had a deal.
The deal's a deal.
She wanted more, and then there was negotiations, and...
Yeah, so her husband, former television producer Alan Hamill, went to negotiate for asking for $150,000 a week, which was the average that men were earning on television at the time.
Okay, it's not television.
That's like saying, well, brain surgeons make this, and I'm a plumber, so I deserve it.
And on par with what her co-star, Ritter, was making.
John Ritter.
She said she didn't know at the time that Ritter was making more since the three of them had a favored nations clause.
What does that mean again?
theo von
Favored nations, I think, is like, what is it?
joe rogan
I thought that means you all make the same amount.
Is that what it means?
theo von
No, I think it's an Inuit thing, isn't it?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
That's First Nation.
MFN provision is a term included in a contract for products or services that prevents the seller from selling its products or services to the buyer's competitors for a lower price or on better terms.
unidentified
Nice.
theo von
Oh, I thought this bitch was a Choctaw, dude.
I didn't know what they were talking about.
joe rogan
Favored Nations contract.
I want what she's getting.
Favored Nations.
theo von
You know, agents will ruin a lot of stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, God, yeah.
theo von
It's unfortunate, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Omnipresent and entertainment contracts.
Certainly gets its fair.
The Post exposed.
The favored nations clause is relatively simple to describe.
They're a contractual commitment that no other relevant party will receive better or more advantageous terms from the party making the commitment.
That makes sense.
So if you and I were doing a show, we would have a favored nations deal where we both make exactly the same amount of money.
Which is fair.
So she probably didn't know that he was getting paid.
Because John Ritter was a giant star at the time.
theo von
Yeah, and that is...
Oh yeah, John Ritter.
joe rogan
Yeah, John Ritter.
theo von
He was incredible.
joe rogan
He did an episode of News Radio.
theo von
Did he really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
He was cool, man.
So that was them back in the day, man.
It was a great fucking show.
theo von
He was so talented.
joe rogan
The fucking...
Some guy ruined it.
theo von
Didn't he do Noises Off, that movie, too?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
What was that?
Noises Off?
I don't know what that is.
Is that a deaf movie?
theo von
I don't know.
Dude, I'll tell you this.
One time I was walking down the street in New York, and they had a deaf group or whatever, like a gaggle or whatever.
I don't know what it's called, but they got together, and they were outside of a bar talking, and I'm walking up, and I'm like, I thought maybe, like, the world had, like, shut off or something.
I couldn't hear, because I'm seeing all these people interacting, but nobody was, there was no sound.
joe rogan
Oh.
theo von
And I get close, and, uh...
joe rogan
Here it is, Noises Off.
jamie vernon
I've never seen this.
I don't even know.
joe rogan
What is Noises Off?
jamie vernon
I do recognize that scene with Christopher Reeves.
theo von
Oh, I thought John Rutter was in this.
jamie vernon
Oh, he is.
He is.
theo von
He is.
jamie vernon
They're doing a theatrical play, but it's a movie.
theo von
Yeah, it's a movie.
unidentified
Oh.
theo von
It's like one shot.
It never ends or something.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Is it good?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Something to check out?
theo von
It's an old movie, yeah.
joe rogan
He was a real sweet guy.
Everybody loved him.
He was on the set of news radio for a week and just a super nice guy.
Sometimes you meet people and you hope they're going to be nice because they're nice on TV. You know, but they're not.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's really frustrating.
It's weird.
Like, they're creepy to you.
Or they're shitty to you because you're an actor, and you're like, oh, wow, you're kind of a cunt.
You're fake.
You're faking it for television, but in real life, you're like this weird, snipey, sort of shitty, fucking insulting person.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I met a few of those, too.
theo von
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was very frustrating.
Because you're like, God, I thought you were nice.
I saw you on TV. You were nice.
I'm just trying to say hi, and you're a fucking cunt to me.
theo von
Yeah.
Yeah, we were supposed to...
Michael Landon was supposed to come to our town.
joe rogan
Aquaman.
No, it wasn't Aquaman.
The man from Atlantis.
theo von
Was he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
I didn't see that.
joe rogan
Was he on Little House on the Prairie?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think he was on The Man from Atlantis, too, wasn't he?
theo von
Good boy.
I remember...
joe rogan
Everybody would swim like The Man from Atlantis when I was a kid.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Swim like this, because he swam almost like a dolphin.
He didn't swim like a person.
theo von
Well, dude, you have to think the first people...
unidentified
Wasn't him?
No.
joe rogan
No?
Who was it?
Who was the man from Atlantis?
Who was the main actor?
jamie vernon
Patrick Duffy.
joe rogan
Patrick Duffy, that's right.
I confuse those two.
theo von
Well, Joe, you have to think probably the first people...
Oh, wow, that dude.
You ever saw this?
joe rogan
Man from Atlantis?
Yeah, that guy's got a hard drive.
theo von
Who's that?
joe rogan
He's been investigated.
Yeah, that was the man from Atlantis.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it was like a big show.
1977 and 1978. Jesus Christ, it only went one year.
theo von
It was a big show.
It was huge!
unidentified
Yeah, I think you just liked this show for some reason.
joe rogan
He would swim real funny, man.
See if you could find Man From Atlantis swimming.
Because he would swim in this weird way.
And so when I was a kid, me and my friends, when we'd go swimming, we would fucking copy the Man From Atlantis.
I still swim like that to this day sometimes when I'm swimming in the pool.
Like that.
See how he swims?
theo von
What?
Nobody swims like that.
joe rogan
He swims like a fish, man.
Watch.
theo von
Bro.
joe rogan
But look how fast he swims.
Nobody can fuck with him.
He swims like a dolphin, bro.
unidentified
That's impossible.
joe rogan
This is stupid.
Like he jumped up.
jamie vernon
Grab a fish.
theo von
Oh, this is a horrible show.
joe rogan
He jumped up better than the dolphin did.
Totally made sense.
theo von
This is all.
joe rogan
Bro, he's touching our tit.
What's going on there?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, he had webbed fingers.
theo von
Oh, he did?
joe rogan
Yeah, he had webbed fingers.
theo von
Oh, I'd hate that.
jamie vernon
Did he talk?
joe rogan
Good if you were swimming.
Yeah, he talked.
theo von
Yeah, but trying to get a mitten on would just fucking...
joe rogan
That would suck.
theo von
God, it would be crazy.
joe rogan
Mitten would be easy.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Glove would be the real problem.
theo von
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, mitten would be great.
Mittens are really the move, man.
Unless you...
I mean, take your fucking glove off.
You need to use your fingers.
Like, how good are your fingers working when you have a glove on?
Very bad.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
But mittens, your shit stays warm.
Ooh, all them little fingers.
Nustling up against each other.
theo von
Yay, buddy!
joe rogan
Keeping each other warm.
theo von
I'll even pull the...
I'll open the end and be like...
Y'all have fun in there, boys!
Because they're having a blast in there.
joe rogan
They're having a good time in there.
It's a little warm party.
theo von
Dude, sometimes I think I would hate to have one of those long wieners.
Like, what were we looking at?
joe rogan
The elk?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
You keep going back to that.
theo von
Well, you have to think, though.
Well, I was trying to figure out what our conversation, what we were talking about.
But think how much wiener isn't in the...
Recipient.
joe rogan
Right.
There's a certain amount of dick that is a problem.
Like, if you have a 12-inch dick, you're an idiot.
How many people can enjoy that 12-inch dick?
Probably more guys can take it.
You probably might have to go gay.
Because guys can take some preposterous dicks.
unidentified
Ugh!
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a duck dick.
Ducks have the craziest dicks.
theo von
What?
joe rogan
Ducks have dicks that are as long as their body.
Oh my god!
Well, ducks are rapists, by the way.
And the female duck does not want that.
So the female duck's vagina is not like a straight shot.
It's like a fucking labyrinth.
You gotta find your way through the passage.
And it's got spikes on it.
See the little spikes all over that duck dick?
Yeah.
Ducks are horrible.
When they get a female duck, they rape them.
They bite them and then they just fucking...
And so the female duck can allow the male duck in or not in.
She can stop the process.
That's why they have these corkscrew dicks.
theo von
Like nature has invented...
joe rogan
Yeah, this fucking...
theo von
Like when you're trying to get your hand into a vending machine?
joe rogan
Look at the duck vagina, and then look at the duck dick.
Even the duck vagina is all curly and twisty.
It's not a straight shot.
So for the female to let the male in, she has to want to breed.
theo von
It seems like neither one of them wants to have sex with the other one.
joe rogan
They definitely do, but the way they do it is awful.
I've seen it at a pond.
You just go, Jesus, should I step in here?
unidentified
Should I stop there?
joe rogan
You see that guy?
Guy got arrested because he helped a bison, a baby bison, and they wound up euthanizing it.
The mother wouldn't accept it, I guess.
There was a baby bison at Yellowstone, and it was having a hard time crossing something.
And so this guy got out and helped it.
theo von
I didn't see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it right there.
theo von
Oh, look at that pervert.
Look at him.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
He was just trying to help the baby bison.
So because it was touched, I guess the female just didn't want it anymore.
Because it had the scent of the guy, which is fucking weird.
jamie vernon
That says the herd rejected it.
joe rogan
The herd rejected it.
theo von
What scent?
Like Winston's?
joe rogan
Well, it smelled humans, yeah.
He's got fucking cheeseburgers smell on his fingers and shit.
theo von
For sure.
joe rogan
For sure.
Look at him.
Winston's.
Camels.
No filters.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's probably good.
theo von
What did he smell like?
unidentified
Fucking ABBA albums and fucking palm balls?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
What's on his fingers?
theo von
But no, I think I would hate that, man, if you had a long wiener, right?
unidentified
Right.
theo von
Think of how much wiener is...
joe rogan
Not in there.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
And just like being in the cold, you know?
joe rogan
You dick would get cold?
theo von
Well, I just think, like, you ever been in like a sleeping bag or whatever and your feet are hanging out the bottom?
joe rogan
Right.
Your dick would be out and cold.
The base of your dick would be so lonely.
The base of your dick would get no attention.
Plus it would probably be annoying for a girl.
I like dick.
What is this stupid fucking giant dick that hurts?
theo von
Yeah, this never-ending dick.
It's like watching a long movie, I bet.
joe rogan
You ever watch a porno where a girl is sucking a guy's dick and it's just ridiculous.
It's just like sucking this microphone.
It's too big.
theo von
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
That poor guy.
The poor girl and poor guy.
They must both be frustrated.
theo von
Yeah, it's just like watching something.
I don't know.
A lot of it sometimes for me seems like...
joe rogan
Man with world's biggest penis stuns host with explicit pic.
Philip and Josie react to the world's biggest penis.
jamie vernon
Thirteen and a half inches.
joe rogan
Whoa.
His name is Jonah Fallon, New York actor.
Wow.
Let me see this dude.
theo von
I don't want that.
I just...
joe rogan
That's the guy?
theo von
Oh my god, that's him, huh?
joe rogan
See, that's the kind of dick that you have.
theo von
Ooh, look at that wand on him, homie.
joe rogan
That's a hog.
theo von
My god, boy.
Dang, dude.
Imagine getting directions from that guy.
joe rogan
So he's showing it to them.
Scroll down.
So there, he shows it to them.
That's his hog.
theo von
Look at her.
joe rogan
He just showed him his cock.
jamie vernon
I think he's saying it's about as big as that thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
Thirteen and a half inches.
theo von
But who wants that?
I just feel like if you had that much, I would just hate it.
And say if you're walking to the restroom or something, if you have a cat, that cat's going to attack that bitch every time.
joe rogan
Probably if you're naked.
unidentified
Not a chance.
joe rogan
It's a dangling little cat toy.
theo von
Oh, dude.
You have to basically hold your dick up like this when you walk over to the bathroom.
joe rogan
You can't walk around.
Oh, that's like guys with inflated balls.
jamie vernon
132 pounds scrotum.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's just a disease though, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, but same problem that he's explaining.
joe rogan
But it's a much worse problem because it's a cancerous sack.
theo von
What is that?
It's like my 300 pound inmate or whatever.
joe rogan
What makes their balls grow up that big?
What do they do about those, by the way?
Because more than one dude has had his balls.
unidentified
Yeah, it's called scrotal lymphedema.
joe rogan
Edema.
jamie vernon
I don't think I want to look up pictures of this.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do.
You definitely do.
But let's get some smelling salts in the system first.
theo von
Oh, you want to?
joe rogan
Yeah.
We're going to look up giant scrotums getting operated on.
unidentified
Let's fire up.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
Let's fire up.
Let's fire up.
Let's go.
theo von
All right.
joe rogan
You first.
unidentified
All right.
theo von
Oh man, I've been waiting for this.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
He requested this, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
Here comes Santa Claus, right down Santa Claus Lane.
joe rogan
Take a sniff.
Ready?
Hit it.
theo von
Those are dead.
joe rogan
Is it dead?
jamie vernon
That could be the older one, and this could be the newer one, but even still, it's only supposed to last for like a week or two after you open it.
joe rogan
This is not good.
This one don't work.
Time to order some.
We should always have some on the hand.
Oh!
Got him!
jamie vernon
I thought it was going to be dead and it wasn't.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
That must be our most recent one.
So let's chuck this one.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
And let's order some.
We'll order like five more.
jamie vernon
I mean, I had three.
I think we've used a lot.
joe rogan
Here we go.
theo von
Welcome to the danger zone.
joe rogan
Okay, here we go.
theo von
Boy.
unidentified
Huh?
theo von
Fuck yeah, boy.
joe rogan
It's not fresh.
But it's good enough.
theo von
But it's strong, yeah.
Let me get one more.
joe rogan
That's good.
theo von
This is my high, man.
joe rogan
That works.
jamie vernon
This guy did it to his eyes.
joe rogan
Why'd he do it to his eyes?
jamie vernon
Maybe it...
joe rogan
He's trying to...
Did he get rocked?
jamie vernon
No, he's trying to wake up to go play, probably.
He might have gotten rocked.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm gonna bring those to the comedy club.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm gonna take a blast before I go on stage.
Whoa.
theo von
Is that Tkachuk?
joe rogan
I'm going to take a blast right before I go on stage.
theo von
Dude, you know where I got to...
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
That'll wake you right the fuck up.
theo von
One thing that...
Yeah, I think there's something about that people have an extra wiener that makes me angry.
joe rogan
It makes you angry?
Like, the world's not fair.
That's how flat-chested girls feel when other girls walk by with giant tits.
Yeah.
That's a big one, right?
Because if you were just born with giant tits, you just hit the genetic lottery.
And every guy loves big tits.
They all love them.
They have no use for them.
They just want to squeeze them.
Just want to suck on them.
theo von
Some of them are so big, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get too big, just like a dick.
theo von
And you're just like, God, get all...
joe rogan
You could be like that Canadian teacher that teaches woodshop class with giant rubber tits on it.
That shit is where Woke hits its final destination.
theo von
Dude, the crazy part is that guy looks like Tim Dillon if you just put a regular picture of him up.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, because he's like not really trans.
It's a scam.
So let's see what the operation is on this guy's sack-a-rooney.
Oh boy.
That's the improvement.
Look at the improvement.
The improvement is what's on the right.
theo von
Oh, he had nut in his legs.
jamie vernon
It's a blockage of lymph nodes, obviously.
theo von
I guess your nut will back up into your legs.
Damn.
joe rogan
So it goes to his legs.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
And what do they do to drain it?
Oh, look at that one.
It's like necrotic.
Look at the far left.
Look at that.
Look at his butt.
theo von
Look at his butt.
joe rogan
Click on that.
It's like his skin is dying.
Oh, Jesus.
How long do you have to wait before you go see a doctor?
I mean, for real.
That seems like...
A little bit of putting off.
theo von
Yeah, that guy's...
You know?
He's turning into a tortoise, it looks like.
That guy's got that hang green on him.
That's him.
jamie vernon
He got better.
joe rogan
Some dudes just...
Oh, he did get better.
Look at him.
Congratulations, sir.
theo von
But imagine just bringing a bag in and people are like, what's in the bag?
You're like, my nuts are...
joe rogan
But hold on.
It looks like they stuffed his nuts up into his stomach.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look.
Like in the left one, he doesn't have a big belly.
In the right one, maybe as soon as he can get out, he just started eating like a pig.
So, finally.
theo von
Well, I'm sure once you can go out, you want to go enjoy yourself, you want to go to...
joe rogan
I guess, but wouldn't you like concentrate on cleaning up your fucking health?
Obviously you got something real wrong.
So what does it say here?
jamie vernon
This is how it started.
joe rogan
Over the next nine months, every six days or so, he would experience what he felt like a sensational carpet burn in his groin, then severe cold and shaking, followed by his scrotum growing uncontrollably larger and larger.
It got so bad one day that I stood in my living room and cried, he said.
There was a fresh breakage of the skin, and it stung to no one, oh man, he's getting fucking stretch marks on his ball sack.
theo von
You ever had like where your toe, like where your toe connects to your foot and it kind of will crack right there?
joe rogan
Yeah, all the time.
theo von
Imagine like that happens on your nuts.
That would hurt so bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, because where your toe connects to your foot, kickboxing, I would always get those.
Always.
theo von
That's the worst.
joe rogan
Because you're pushing off with such extreme force with your toes, and your skin gets dry, and things get cracked, and I was always getting slices down there.
theo von
Yeah, I hate it.
I hate that.
joe rogan
It sucked, because you're walking around, your feet hurt.
theo von
Yeah, and you kind of have to walk like this.
You get used to it, but in the beginning, you kind of have to just walk like this.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
What else were we talking about?
joe rogan
Dicks.
Big dicks.
Big old dicks.
theo von
Yeah, because also people are starving in another country and you got this big old dick all on you.
joe rogan
Right, and you're fat.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like that guy, that actor, he's eating well.
What is giant hog?
Do you think, like, 13 1⁄2 inches, I would imagine girls, like, don't swipe right on you.
Is swipe right good, or what is when you choose yes?
Swiping right?
theo von
I'm not on the apps.
joe rogan
Swipe.
Swipe right, yeah.
theo von
Right.
joe rogan
So I bet if you say, by the way, I have a 13 1⁄2 inch dick, girls would be like, I want that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who wants that?
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
I think a lot of women would want to see it.
So it's almost like, come back to my place, come back to my new house, come see this...
joe rogan
Giant dick.
theo von
Yeah, or like the animals that you made.
joe rogan
Come see my Ferrari.
Right.
theo von
Like, what was that, Dan, you were going to make with the animals?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a terrarium.
theo von
Yeah, come see my terrarium.
And then you just go on the other side of the tree and put your dick in a little hole.
unidentified
And then you let a gerbil loose in there.
theo von
Jesus Christ.
Nothing happens, but she keeps thinking the wiener's going to get that gerbil, baby.
jamie vernon
He's on the wrong website making money.
I just looked at him.
He's got a cameo, but he's definitely done OnlyFans, right?
joe rogan
Maybe he doesn't want people to see his dick.
He's still an actor.
Maybe he's still trying to make it out in that world.
That's the hardest world to make it in, man.
theo von
In acting?
joe rogan
Because they don't have to pick you.
You could be amazing.
And some shitty casting agent, some shitty director, they might not like you.
You might remind them of an ex-boyfriend.
They might think you're too confident.
Or they might be playing power trip games.
theo von
Yeah.
There's too much, and there's a lot of nepotism too, it seems like, in that industry.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
theo von
It's a lot of like, you see so many people get opportunities where you're like, man, did that person really...
Or were there opportunities where their family was involved, you know?
joe rogan
It's family involved, but in more cases, it's networking.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, they go...
I dated a girl who was an actress when I first came here, and she always was networking.
She's like, I have to go to this party.
I have to meet these people.
I have to know these casting people.
I have to know these...
And I'm like, ugh.
And she would go around them and be so fake.
Oh my god, I love your dress.
Like that kind of shit.
And you're like, ugh, it's exhausting.
Because it's one thing if someone's like super complimentary and they have nothing to gain for it.
Like, dude, I love your shoes.
Where'd you get those?
And you know it's pure.
It's nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
I like your hat.
I like your arms or whatever.
joe rogan
Someone's complimentary of you.
Look at you, handsome motherfucker.
It's nice.
b-real
It's complimentary for no reason.
joe rogan
But there's something gross about when you know someone that...
I know this girl.
This is not how she is.
theo von
Right.
joe rogan
She's kissing everybody's ass just to appear nicer.
Maybe they'll think about her when a role comes up.
And so that forms their opinions on things, too.
Because that forms their political opinions.
Because they find out what the political opinions of the casting people and the executives, which is always left-leaning.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Unless you're on Yellowstone, you better be wearing a fucking pride flag or something.
You have to be 100% progressive, liberal-leaning, left-leaning.
And so these people alter their opinions of the world based on what is going to get them closer to the honeypot.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
I think it's amazing that all of Hollywood has the same political beliefs.
joe rogan
Except Yellowstone, that Taylor Sheridan guy.
theo von
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He seems like an interesting guy.
Have you met him?
joe rogan
No, I've connected with him on text messages.
He's friends with Whitney.
But I admire that guy.
And his shows are fucking amazing.
theo von
People love him, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, and his movies, too.
He made that, what was that fucking movie, the bank robbery movie with, was Jeff Bridges in it?
God damn it.
It's good.
I know the movie.
theo von
You know who I want to meet?
jamie vernon
Hell or High Water?
joe rogan
Hell or High Water.
That's a pfff.
jamie vernon
And Sicario.
joe rogan
God damn it.
He made Sicario?
Oh shit.
theo von
Really?
joe rogan
Sicario too kind of sucked.
theo von
Was Sicario with um...
jamie vernon
Benicio Del Toro.
theo von
Oh no.
I'm thinking of something.
joe rogan
Benicio Del Toro.
I love that dude.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
He seems like a cool motherfucker.
theo von
Well Spanish people always seem cool I think because it's neat to say their name.
Benicio Del Toro.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
He's just cool.
joe rogan
I remember when he was in...
theo von
Secretariat.
joe rogan
He was in the Johnny Depp movie about Hunter S. Thompson.
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Oh, that was the movie back then.
Oh, that was a great movie.
We can't stop here.
theo von
This is bad.
Yeah, there he is.
joe rogan
He got fat for that movie, too.
theo von
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a fucking great movie.
That movie makes me want to do drugs.
theo von
Oh God, dude.
joe rogan
Makes me want to do drugs and go to Vegas.
Fun fucking times.
He was also the werewolf.
Did you ever see him in The Wolfman?
theo von
You can see him looking in his eyes right there and tell he was.
joe rogan
He was good in The Wolfman.
The Wolfman was kind of a cornball movie.
It was like a combination of CGI and like real Rick Baker style makeup, which is pretty cool.
theo von
The Wolf Man?
joe rogan
You never saw it?
theo von
No.
joe rogan
Find the scene where Benicio Del Toro transforms into the werewolf.
Because there's a scene when they've got him bolted down to a chair in an operating room.
Give me some volume on this.
Because these dudes, they think he's insane.
unidentified
Once Mr. Talbot has witnessed that the full moon holds no sway over him, but he remains a perfectly ordinary human being, he will have taken his first small step down the long road to mental recovery.
Get out of here.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, this is good.
unidentified
...has suffered quite traumatic personal experiences. He witnessed his mother's self-mutilation. His young mind, unable to accept it, created a fantastical truth. That his father is to blame. That his father is literally a monster. Is that Nicolas Cage?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
You will not be bitten by a werewolf.
You will not become a werewolf.
Any more than I will sprout wings and fly out of that window.
Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho.
joe rogan
I thought he did medicine back then.
In a theater.
Isn't that weird?
That's how they did operations.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
No sedatives.
He's got something to say to them.
unidentified
Stop it.
Speak up, Ms. Talbot.
Forgive me, but we can't hear you.
You moron.
Tonight I will kill all of you!
I will kill all of you!
Yes, friend.
As you can see, my country is our disease of the mind.
Existing somewhere in the deep...
Kill me!
Uh oh.
For him, it seems very real.
The subject...
theo von
Oh man.
unidentified
Oh man.
Ooh!
joe rogan
This is badass.
It's a great scene.
The movie's eh, but this scene is fucking dope.
unidentified
Wow.
Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh.
theo von
Oh, dang.
unidentified
Oh, look at that pervert, huh?
Is that David Spade?
theo von
That's crazy, man.
joe rogan
It's a good scene.
theo von
Yeah, it is really good.
joe rogan
But you see, he was like kind of half goofy.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like half a werewolf, half a fucking man, some CGI, like this is CGI. It was good though, I thought.
It's pretty good.
theo von
It looks really good for what time period was this?
joe rogan
This was a few years ago.
theo von
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
This is like 2011?
theo von
Oh, that's not real bad.
joe rogan
2010?
theo von
Dude, remember Swamp Thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, I forgot about Swamp Thing.
I used to read the comic books.
unidentified
Really?
theo von
I never even knew it was a comic.
joe rogan
DC Comics, Swamp Thing.
theo von
Dude, in our area, people were so excited because it was Louisiana, you know?
People were like, fuck yeah, dude, the swamp is back, you know?
People were like, we got this, we can do it.
joe rogan
We could do it.
We're heroes now.
theo von
Yeah, you'd see people's dads telling them, don't you want to be like Swamp Thing?
Really?
Yeah, like people were just...
joe rogan
That was the big hero of Louisiana?
theo von
People were fired up.
joe rogan
There was a movie Swamp Thing, wasn't there?
jamie vernon
Google it, now there's a bunch of recent stuff, but I can't tell how much of it's like, here, I've got it on YouTube.
joe rogan
That was the old movie.
That was the original movie.
jamie vernon
It says four years ago, DC Universe original.
joe rogan
Oh, I think that's animated.
theo von
That was the one that looks like a thing.
joe rogan
Wes Craven.
jamie vernon
But I don't know if someone just typed his name in to get attention.
joe rogan
I think Wes Craven did direct The Swamp Thing.
theo von
Swamp Thing was good, though.
unidentified
Not long ago, in the unexplored regions of an unmapped swamp, the creative genius of one man collided with another's evil dream, and a monster was born.
joe rogan
And Louisiana was back on the map.
jamie vernon
Yeah, Wes Cravenfield.
joe rogan
Swamp Thing.
theo von
I like to dream.
unidentified
I ride between the summer shit.
theo von
And Swamp Thing just ride in a truck.
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
theo von
Did you ever interview Willie Nelson?
Do you ever interview him?
joe rogan
No, I would love to interview Willie Nelson.
I don't think I interview people.
I think I just talk to them.
theo von
That's a good point.
Yeah, sorry.
Do you ever just talk to Willie Nelson?
joe rogan
No, it's okay.
But I mean, people have said that, like, about, I love your interview, and I'm always like, eee.
I mean, kinda?
Sorta?
It's really just a conversation.
theo von
Well, some people, I think, if you're curious on information from them, then you want to ask them more things that they know about that you don't know about.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Like if I'm talking to Michio Kaku or a quantum physicist or someone, I ask questions.
I'm essentially interviewing them.
Especially it's something that I really have no understanding of.
Yeah.
But for the most part, I'm just talking to people.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which takes a lot of pressure off, too.
Because they're like, what subject do you want to cover?
I'm like, I don't know.
Let's just talk.
Some people are weirded out by that.
You and I, we know each other so long.
We don't have to talk about what we're going to talk about.
We just get in here and start rolling.
theo von
Yeah, it's a little easier, too.
I think it gets easier, too, when you've been in here before.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's weird when you see people for the first time, and you see them lock up, and they're nervous, and I'm always just like, I'm gonna hold your hand.
We're gonna get through this.
I'm gonna get you 20 minutes in, and you're gonna not even know you're here.
theo von
Have you had people that really locked up?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've had people get real nervous, and you see them breathing funny, and they can't talk that good because they can't get breath, you know?
But it's okay.
I was just like, let's just calm this thing down.
We're gonna be all right.
theo von
It's pretty normal, I think, some people trying something new.
joe rogan
But it's just weird, the numbers.
That's what weirds people out, the numbers of humans.
That freaks people out.
It's hard to just be yourself in front of millions of people.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you can.
And you do it.
I do it.
We do it.
You can just be yourself.
You are the same fucking dude if you and I are going having dinner somewhere or if we're at a comedy club or if we're here.
It's the same dude.
Some people can't do that.
They have to put on a persona when they're talking.
They get weirded out.
theo von
Yeah, I think sometimes that's interesting.
unidentified
Do you find that when you're doing podcasts?
theo von
I find...
I think sometimes I'm like, which me is kind of showing up more today?
That might sound a little fucking...
joe rogan
Oh, no, I know what you mean by that.
theo von
But like, am I like a little agitated today?
Am I feeling like goofy?
Am I having, you know, kind of what's going on?
Like, am I a little curious today?
Am I a little like inquisitive?
You know, just which part of me is kind of at the surface, sometimes at the moment, you know?
joe rogan
I had a revelation the other night that I forgot about.
I was on mushrooms.
And I closed my eyes and I realized that in certain circumstances, when I'm healthy, when everything's going great, I have a very specific frequency.
It's a different frequency.
And this weird revelation that I had while I was high showed me this.
It was almost like a lesson that I was learning.
And it was like, here's you now.
You're very healthy.
I had an IV vitamin drip that day.
I'd worked out.
I did the cold plunge.
I did the sauna.
No conflicts.
No problem in my personal life.
No problem in my business life.
Everything was beautiful.
And then it showed me there's times where you don't have that, where you're irritable, where you're tired, where you're sick, where you're hurt.
There's all these different frequencies that you have.
And it made me realize, like, you think about your health and you think about, like, how you feel and whether or not you're present.
You think it is just like...
It's better to just be this way.
But you don't realize that you're achieving a certain frequency.
I was achieving a certain frequency at that moment, and I realized, like, this is attainable, and this is what I should strive for, and that I could stay at this frequency.
But one of the things it was telling me is to don't drink.
It was like, right when I was there, I was like, don't drink.
Because if you're drinking right now, you're gonna kill this frequency.
It's gonna dull it.
Like, you might have less inhibitions, but it will dull this frequency.
theo von
Wow.
joe rogan
It was very interesting.
It was like one of them weird mushroom moments where the mushroom's like, hey, this is probably something you should think about because I don't think you think about it this way.
You're just indulgent.
You do this, you do that, you have a slice of pizza, you eat a meatball sub.
But what's going on with your overall energy when you do that?
You really want your energy to be at the best possible state, but you don't think about it that way.
theo von
Right.
You don't think about it exactly like that way, but we do think about it in ways like, Like our attitude like we have little words we used to describe like kind of like elements of it I guess but I wonder in the future if there will be a way that we can measure whatever that frequency is like sometimes it feels like we're kind of primitive in the understand in the like the quantifying of um like we take our temperature you know like just in things that we blood pressure yeah in in little things that we use to evaluate us sometimes I
feel like we're on a plane that feels really old sometimes.
There should be another plane where we start to...
Is there a number for what my frequency is today?
Because you kind of feel that.
It's like where you operate at.
And there are things you can do to keep...
I keep earplugs in now for the first hour and a half of my day, right?
And it just keeps a lot of excess noise in the dick.
joe rogan
For the first hour and a half?
theo von
Yep.
Keeps them out.
I'm able to go through the things that I want to go through at home.
joe rogan
So what do you do?
When you wake up, you just put them in?
theo von
I sleep with them in.
joe rogan
Do you?
You sleep with earplugs in.
theo von
Yeah, I think I've heard everything that you can hear at night.
You know, for a while I was scared I was going to miss something or if something happened, but I think it's like, dude, I'm not, they're not doing anything new at night that I wouldn't have, I wouldn't be able to just imagine is going on.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think there's a new invention of nighttime activities.
theo von
Yeah, so I got them in, and I'll keep them in, man, and I'll go through like my morning routine, and it's like...
joe rogan
What is your morning routine?
theo von
I pray right when I wake up.
joe rogan
Do you have a specific prayer?
theo von
Yeah, just a serenity prayer.
You know, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, the wisdom to know the difference.
And then sometimes I do like one other prayer and then I read like these couple of pages that help me to look at my day from afar.
What am I going to do today?
So that helps me have a little bit more of a plan for my day.
Even if it's not a strict plan, it's like at least I'm looking at my day instead of feeling like my day is just like...
unidentified
Happening to you.
theo von
Yes.
And so those little things like that help me and then I'll do 10-minute meditation and then I do 10 minutes where I just write just whatever's going on in my head.
joe rogan
You do that every day?
theo von
Yep.
joe rogan
How long have you been doing that?
theo von
I've been doing that probably pretty solid for I would say...
I don't know, maybe three months?
But I've done pieces of that for probably five years.
joe rogan
What started all that out?
theo von
Doing sober stuff, like you get into some of that world, you know?
But I think also just like seeing how meditation gives me a little bit detached from myself.
So then I'm not like just clinging to everything that happens so it doesn't affect me immediately.
Something can happen and there's a little bit of space between me and whatever's happening.
And that gives me a chance to look at it or manage a little bit more comfortably.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a problem with getting caught up in the momentum of your day.
I do find myself in that spot sometimes.
I don't have that specific a routine as you do, but maybe it's a good idea.
theo von
Yeah.
For me, I need it.
Some people, they can operate differently.
You know, I think for me it helps to have a little bit of what's going on.
joe rogan
I remember watching this Kobe Bryant interview where he's talking about the first ten minutes of every day when he wakes up he meditates.
Ten minutes every day.
So he has like a clear path forward from the day.
He gets his day started off with the right mindset.
And that dude was all about mindset.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mamba mindset.
You know?
That dude is like the...
He was the embodiment of hard work and discipline.
You know?
And accomplishment.
And that was his way of starting out every day.
theo von
Yeah, I think also it gives me something.
I kind of look forward to it a little bit the more I do it.
I look forward to that time that I spend.
But I'll leave those earplugs in until I have to take them out.
Until something comes along.
joe rogan
Do you live in a noisy place?
theo von
I live in sometimes a place that has some noise.
joe rogan
You live in an apartment or a house?
theo von
Yeah, and I have a house in Nashville, but I have an apartment.
It's still my old apartment in Los Angeles.
It's a little noisy.
LA's noisy.
You can always hear something.
You can hear somebody.
unidentified
How often do you go back to LA? Like four months out of the year.
joe rogan
Do you get sad?
theo von
Let me think what I get.
There's things that I miss.
You know, I miss at the store.
I miss seeing, like, Coco Diaz over there, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, the store.
theo von
Yeah, you walk up on him and his eyes light up, you know?
Hey, cocksucker!
joe rogan
That's what I love about the club that we have, that sign that says, get it together, bitch.
theo von
Yeah, that's funny.
joe rogan
That's Joey.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
Oh, that's who says that.
joe rogan
Yeah, Joey used to always say that to us.
He was so happy when he saw that.
theo von
Oh, that's cool, dude.
Oh, that's awesome.
joe rogan
Because that was, like, his thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You were about to go on stage, he was firing you up, like, get it together, bitch.
Let's go.
Rock these motherfuckers.
theo von
Bro, yeah.
There's something about, yeah, like...
joe rogan
Bro, he came into town and murdered.
theo von
Did he?
unidentified
He murdered.
joe rogan
He only wanted to do one set.
He was supposed to do two shows.
He's so funny, man.
He's like a reluctant killer.
Because he hasn't been doing that much stand-up, you know, because he's living in New Jersey.
And it was a 7 o'clock show.
He goes, I'll do the 10. I'll do the 10. I go, get the fuck out of here.
You're here, man.
I go, go up.
Go up.
And he went up and fucking lit those people on fire.
The pop that he got was just like the pop that you got, but maybe even a little crazier.
The pop when Joey got on stage, they were like, no way!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he's only been there once.
theo von
Oh, it's like seeing Santa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's how they did with Chappelle, too.
When I brought Chappelle up at the club the first time, they went fucking apeshit.
They couldn't believe it.
How is this real?
How is Dave Chappelle here?
How is this real?
theo von
Oh, dude, I remember watching Joey Diaz.
I would find myself get it when his music would come on.
Remember that intro music he used?
Whenever that would come on, I would literally, without even doing it, I would be out of my seat.
I would be so excited.
joe rogan
He's the most watched comic by other comics.
theo von
Interesting.
joe rogan
I would imagine.
Don't you think?
If you knew that Joey was going up in the OR, you'd go and have a seat in the back.
Always.
theo von
Yeah, because you're going to see something, you know.
joe rogan
Some crazy shit's going to happen.
He's all fired up.
theo von
He's going to say the words we're not supposed to say.
joe rogan
He's on 500 milligrams of edibles.
theo von
Bro, one time I went over there, and it was him and Lee Syatt, you know, when he's got Lee over there, and he would just like, Lee's on like 70,000.
joe rogan
The flying Jew.
He turned Lee Syatt into a fucking total edible head.
theo von
Oh, dude, Lee was a fucking...
joe rogan
He would fall asleep while he's producing the show.
He's producing the show.
There's a video of it, of him producing the show.
He's producing Joey's show, and he's like, he goes...
theo von
Well, here's what happened.
unidentified
Out cold.
theo von
Here's what happened.
One time, I get there and I was like, hey, I think I hear a little whistling in the headphones.
And Lee's like, oh, I'm trying to figure it out.
So Lee's like trying to figure it out.
By the end, he's eating so many edibles.
Lee was literally sitting there.
He's like...
joe rogan
It was him.
theo von
It was him.
By the end.
In the beginning, it wasn't.
It was some other thing.
He started recreating his own...
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
We manifested our own destiny, bro.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What, you got a video of him falling asleep?
jamie vernon
Let's go.
unidentified
I just saw that.
I just saw that.
jamie vernon
You saw the devil.
joe rogan
You saw the devil.
unidentified
Shake him up, shake him up, shake him up, shake him.
joe rogan
Well, at least I have met the devil.
jamie vernon
Right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, bro.
He tortured people.
unidentified
Oh, dude.
theo von
Dude, one time we did some LSD, right?
We were children, right?
And so we went to the Waffle House because it was open, you know?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
theo von
When you were on drugs and you were a kid, that's the downside of having any place that stays open all night.
People are going to come there.
joe rogan
They're all on drugs.
No one's sober at Waffle House.
theo von
So we get there, dude.
And we're in there, and my buddy starts laughing so hard.
He's kind of convulsing a little bit, my buddy Scott.
And the waiter was a black gentleman and a gay guy.
We'd never seen a gay black dude, right?
So anyway, he starts doing the Heimlich maneuver on my buddy, right?
And he wasn't choking.
He was just losing his shit because he was so fucking geeked up on LSD, right?
So, bro.
joe rogan
This dude's doing a Heimlich and he's not even choking?
theo von
He's not even fucking choking.
joe rogan
Did you tell him he wasn't choking?
theo von
I couldn't speak.
unidentified
I was laughing so fucking hard.
theo von
It was unreal, dude.
unidentified
Did he figure out that your buddy wasn't true?
theo von
I think I disappeared and just woke up in the sixth grade.
But man, we laughed so fucking hard, man.
joe rogan
This guy's trying to give you a Heimlich.
Oh my god.
theo von
It was so much fun doing drugs when you didn't know what was gonna happen.
unidentified
Mmm.
theo von
It was scary, but it was exciting, you know?
joe rogan
Jamie, did you put another one of these down?
Because I threw the other one.
jamie vernon
There was a...
I asked to find another one out there, and apparently that has some power in it.
But I don't know.
It's not new, I know that.
joe rogan
Give it a whiff.
theo von
Do you have a beverage, Jamie, that I can have?
jamie vernon
What would you like?
theo von
Uh-uh, it's nothing.
joe rogan
Not that one?
jamie vernon
Throw that away too, then.
theo von
I want that hard hitter, baby.
I want something that's gonna fucking teach me something.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the one.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
That's the what?
jamie vernon
There's coffee on the table if you want some coffee.
theo von
You want something else?
joe rogan
You want a Kill Cliff?
theo von
I just want something, yeah.
joe rogan
You want a Kill Cliff?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Can we get a couple of Kill Cliffs?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
theo von
Dude, it was so cool to see Ron Wyden talk to him last night.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
He's the best.
theo von
Bro, I walk in.
Yeah, he's in there.
Tom Segura's in there.
joe rogan
I felt like I'm going to have one more.
One more.
unidentified
God.
theo von
You know I'm an addict because I know I look forward to this question.
joe rogan
I look forward to it, too.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Am I an addict, though?
theo von
I mean...
unidentified
A little bit?
Probably.
joe rogan
I'm a functional addict or something.
theo von
Yeah.
If you're an addict, dude, you redesigned it because you're doing good at it.
joe rogan
I feel like it can be done.
unidentified
There you go.
This is it.
joe rogan
I feel like there's certain addictions that can be managed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You've had one of these, right?
theo von
Yeah, they're great.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is my own.
theo von
Oh, yeah, you got your own, and so does Israel Adesanya, right?
joe rogan
This is Flaming Joe.
Yeah, Israel Adesanya has a Kiwi one.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's nice.
theo von
I talked to this guy one time on the phone.
He's a really nice guy.
joe rogan
Oh, he's the best.
John's the best.
And we got a new one coming out with a compilation, a collaboration with me and Cam Haynes.
It's a spicy cherry called Elk Blood.
theo von
Ooh, nice boy.
joe rogan
It's good, dude.
theo von
Keep hammering, dude.
joe rogan
We went through, like, I had to go through, like, seven or eight versions to get to this.
This is perfect, which I think is, like, the perfect flavor.
This one is a pineapple, like a spicy pineapple.
It's like pineapple with a little bit of jalapeno.
theo von
Peño in there.
joe rogan
This is a very addictive drink.
theo von
Yeah, I like having me a little something.
I didn't have any caffeine all day today because I wanted to wait until I had some in here.
You know?
joe rogan
You manage that?
theo von
Yep.
I was like, I'm waiting until I get in there and it's going to be exciting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
I'm going to have it when I get in there.
joe rogan
What's the most time you've ever spent off a caffeine?
theo von
30, I would say 30 days.
joe rogan
I had Michael Pollan on.
And he was explaining how he took, I think he took like three months.
Is that what he said?
Something like that?
Three months off of caffeine.
And he said when he had it, it was like a psychedelic experience.
theo von
Wow.
joe rogan
He's like, it's so different when your body's not accustomed to caffeine and you have it.
It's like, you have this insane feeling of bliss.
It's like, it's really wild.
Yeah.
theo von
Well, we were doing that, remember I used to do those vapes, remember?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
theo von
I quit those.
Me too.
joe rogan
Too addictive.
And I didn't like it.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it made me tired.
Like I was tired.
theo von
Oh, I'd have a cup of tea and you'd start to shut down a little.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the first hit is magical.
The first hit, I'd take a big puff and it'd be like...
Like everything just washes over you, you feel so relaxed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's brain cells dying.
unidentified
It's like a kid.
joe rogan
It's getting stupider where everything's gonna be okay.
Because I feel like the more smart you are, the more you take into account all the possibilities and all the variables and all things that can go wrong, but one hit of that vape and you're like this.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
But then I was always chasing that dragon.
theo von
Yep.
joe rogan
And then later on the night I noticed I'd be hitting it and nothing would happen.
I'd be like, what am I doing here?
theo von
Yeah, I think we did Esco bars or whatever.
Oh, and then one time I went into a place and the lady's like, this is the strongest one they got.
This bitch is the strongest.
She's like, every hit is like smoking five cigarettes.
And then she would fucking hit it.
And no joke, her hair would curl, dude.
joe rogan
Smoke's coming out of her ears.
theo von
This bitch like hitting five cigarettes.
You fucking hit that bitch, boy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't fucked with the vapes in quite a while, but I have friends that still hit them all the time, and you see, like, oh, I see that.
I see that little demon that's in your body.
theo von
I'm about six days off right now, and I'm really battling, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, you're battling still?
theo von
Yeah, I don't want to see somebody with one.
That's the tough moment for me.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just want to grab it.
Give me a hint of that.
theo von
Yeah.
So last time, I didn't see anybody with one.
I took a couple puffs off a cigarette, though.
I hadn't had that in a few years.
That was fun.
unidentified
What made you quit the vape?
theo von
It keeps me up.
It keeps me just rattling, you know?
joe rogan
A lot of nicotine.
theo von
You ever think your car is still going and you push it and it's off?
joe rogan
Right.
theo von
Like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're just up.
theo von
Yeah, my thing's still going.
joe rogan
And it was late, and you're up.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
I'm fucking up, dude.
joe rogan
It's also like, it can't be good for you.
All that oil, that mist, and sometimes you'd feel it in your throat.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your throat would get all dry and fucked up because it's irritated from all the oil.
Like, what is in there?
Google Escobar's.
What are the ingredients?
What's the oil they use?
theo von
I mean, them bitches are good, though.
Now, if you're running across the border, if you are long-distance cycling or something, I think have one on you.
joe rogan
Propene glycol, a vegetable glycerin, natural and artificial flavors, and nicotine.
All right, but what is that?
Is that bad for you?
That's got to be bad for you.
Is the additive safe?
It's a synthetic food additive that belongs to the same chemical group as alcohol.
It's colorless, odorless, slightly syrupy, generally recognized as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Yeah.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't believe those people, though.
They're all in cahoots.
FDA considers the average daily dietary intake of 23 milligrams per kilogram of body weight to be safe for persons 2 to 65 years of age.
Maybe.
But what about vaping it?
Google vaping.
Is vaping propane...
jamie vernon
That even was from 2008, and I don't think that existed then.
joe rogan
Oh, vaping didn't exist then?
jamie vernon
2008. Do you remember people doing it back then?
theo von
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I remember they had those little brick vapes.
theo von
I used to huff gas and stuff, but that was different.
joe rogan
See if you can Google propane glycol safe...
Is propene glycol safe for vaping?
theo von
Oh, I'll tell you.
What's not safe is doing...
You get the right hand sanitizer and you do a couple huffs on that shit.
joe rogan
You huff hands on that shit?
theo von
Yeah, the good stuff.
joe rogan
Scroll back up to the top.
What does it say at the top?
It says, both propene glycol and vegetable glycerin are considered safe to use in vaping products, but some users may find one or the other preferable due to personal preference.
jamie vernon
I'm not considering this website...
joe rogan
Pod salt?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's why I wasn't even going for it.
joe rogan
What is that?
What is pod salt?
Okay.
jamie vernon
I was trying to find something that seemed more legitimate.
joe rogan
Vaping.
It may lead to lung inflammation.
Oh, yeah.
Click that.
jamie vernon
Irritation on eyes and throat.
joe rogan
Well, definitely throat.
It definitely irritates your throat.
Did you find it irritated your throat?
theo von
Yeah, sometimes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Vaping propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin may lead to lung inflammation.
But the thing is, it's like, how much are you doing?
That's the thing with all these.
Like, do you know those, what are those called?
Feel free?
Those little kava and kratom drinks.
There's a lawsuit about them now.
Do you know what those are?
Ron White brought a bunch to the club.
Those things are addictive.
theo von
Not those Four Locos, huh?
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
It's a tiny little drink, like a tonic.
And it has kava and also kratom in it.
theo von
Oh, I saw him with that last night.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Boy.
I don't know what's going on with those things, what that does, but you drink a half of one of those, you're not supposed to drink a full one, you're supposed to drink a half of one.
Why don't they make it in smaller dosage so it's a single serving, because it's only that big.
theo von
Yeah, because it's hard to judge.
joe rogan
Also, I can't read without my glasses on, like that little tiny Writing?
I'm not going to read.
This is two servings.
You know, like when you get a Monster Energy drink or something like that.
theo von
Yeah, I'm having it all.
joe rogan
Two servings?
unidentified
Fuck off.
theo von
Yeah, dude.
I'm having fucking both of them.
joe rogan
Is it one can?
Then it's one serving.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm not sharing this.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
unidentified
What pervert is going to fucking share this?
theo von
Let's split it with a buddy, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you doing?
Slurping on each other.
unidentified
You're going to put a little cup on top of it and fucking pour a buddy some?
joe rogan
Well, I would if there was only one for the two of us, and we're both thirsty.
theo von
Yeah, but still, who's doing that?
joe rogan
Very rarely.
jamie vernon
Without looking for a specific brand name, I'm seeing some interesting results.
theo von
Maybe if you're like a T or something.
joe rogan
The live-free thing?
jamie vernon
I just typed in Kava Kratom Drink.
joe rogan
Yeah, but just Google live free because this one very specific what I'm bringing up is there's a lawsuit because this one dude They were getting them at 7-eleven and a bunch of different places and this one dude was an alcoholic and a drug addict I guess and And he was clean and sober and started drinking these things and went off the deep end.
And he was drinking 10 a day, which is crazy.
That's 20 doses a day.
You're not supposed to have more than two in a day.
Two doses, we mean one bottle.
That's more than you're supposed to have in an entire day.
theo von
Damn.
joe rogan
And this dude was down in 10 a day.
theo von
Oh my God.
joe rogan
So he was going against any guidelines that they had.
Yes, that's exactly what it looks like.
jamie vernon
A lot of lawsuits.
Kratom is not listed on it, but what they found, I guess it is here, but what they found, I guess maybe it wasn't being sold that way.
It was being sold as a kava drink that had kratom in it and people didn't know it had kratom in it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I've read varying accounts as to how much kratom is in it.
I don't think kratom is necessarily dangerous, but I do know that some people abuse it, for sure.
Recovering Alcoholics sues wellness drink firm for getting him hooked on 10 of its feel-free kava drinks a day that left him hospitalized because they contain addictive morphine-like substance kratom.
jamie vernon
Wow.
Ten of anything a day is a lot.
joe rogan
Ten of...
Ten Diet Cokes is a lot.
theo von
But whose fault is the guy...
I mean, who's...
joe rogan
It's his fault.
theo von
Yeah, it's his fault.
joe rogan
It's his fault.
Ten a day is his fault.
But the thing is, I think what he's saying is they didn't say there was Kratom in it.
theo von
Oh, totally.
joe rogan
Because it doesn't say...
I don't even think it says on the website that Kratom's in it.
I'm pretty sure I Googled the website.
Go Google the Live Free website and see if it even says Kratom on the website.
theo von
And a lot of the Chinese, I think, are hopped up on this, right?
joe rogan
Are they?
theo von
I think so.
joe rogan
I know a lot of addicts like it.
theo von
Kratom, I believe, is a...
It's popular in a lot of...
In the Far East.
joe rogan
Well, it's pretty popular everywhere.
So here's...
Let's see what it says is in there.
So this is the stuff.
What does it say is in there?
Does it give you a list of ingredients?
Classic tonic, feel free tonic.
jamie vernon
This one says kratom's in it right there.
joe rogan
Okay.
That's the classic, and then there's another one, kava, colon nut, lion's mane.
Oh, so there's a feel free tonic, and then there's the classic tonic.
So the classic tonic is the one that we got.
So what does it say in there?
What does it say the ingredients are?
theo von
I'd rather magic mind.
Have you had that?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a mushroom.
That's pretty good.
It's a nootropic.
Lion's mane is good.
Lion's mane is good for cognitive function.
But when it comes to actual nootropics that help, okay, here it goes.
Kava, kratom, so the kratom is total alkaloid.
So it's mostly kava and a little bit of kratom, it's 34 milligrams.
unidentified
Hmm.
theo von
I heard a joke one time, this guy.
This is the worst joke I've ever heard.
You want to hear it?
joe rogan
I would love to.
theo von
This guy goes, hey, you know why you should take kava?
joe rogan
What?
theo von
Be kava.
joe rogan
Wow.
theo von
Pretty bad, huh?
joe rogan
Did you keep hanging out with that dude?
theo von
No, I never.
I just remember that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a dumb one.
But those drinks, whew, those put you in a nice place.
Whatever the fuck is in there.
But, like, I knew a dude, um, well...
theo von
What do you mean, the fuel freeze?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
See, I didn't have one, man.
I'm trying to think of what I had, mostly.
I do Diet Coke.
joe rogan
Yeah, those real frees are basically a drug.
theo von
So do you recommend it, you think?
Maybe I'll try one tonight.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Everybody in the club is a little wary of them.
Some of the guys have read the class action lawsuit.
But sometimes you've got to go into those things and find out what is really going on with these.
You know, like when you find out the guy was taking 10 a day.
And then also you find out the guy was an addict.
And you go, well, what kind of money?
Like how far gone?
Was he a guy who disappeared for three months and came back with a bloody face?
theo von
Right.
joe rogan
You know, like, who knows?
theo von
Yeah, we had a roommate that used to eat all these breath mints, you know?
And he would stack, like, those altoids, he'd get a big stack of them, and he would always kind of show off how many he could stack in between his teeth, you know?
But he would go out and get drunk at night and in the morning he'd be like on the sofa just like in a bloody suit.
Like he'd be in a suit but just fucking, oh dude.
He looked like a reservoir dog.
joe rogan
Some people live in alternative realities occasionally.
They just like, they get fucked up and then they go away.
And then they come back and then they have to piece together what the fuck happened to them.
One shoe on, fucked up knee.
What's wrong with my hand?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How come I can't hear?
It's like some people just go so hard.
theo von
God, dude.
I'm almost...
Do you get jealous of those people sometimes?
Sometimes I'm jealous of those people.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Kava.
Does Kava feel like Xanax?
It's found that Kava significantly relieves anxiety with mild to no side effects.
Several studies have found that Kava extract It's comparable to antidepressants and benzodiazepines.
Yeah, but doesn't...
That's Dave Asprey, though.
Doesn't kava also cause liver problems?
Google that.
Does kava negatively affect your liver?
Because I think kava has an effect, especially at high doses, that is similar to alcohol.
More than 100 cases of liver toxicity related to the use of kava have been identified.
Some leading to liver transplant.
And some leading to death as people have died from kava.
unidentified
Mmm!
joe rogan
People have died from ice cream too.
There are many reasons for liver damage.
For one, kava depletes glutathione, a chief antioxidant within the liver.
Oh, interesting.
But I wonder if you like take it with glutathione.
jamie vernon
There's kava bars in Austin, I just found out.
joe rogan
Interesting.
theo von
We should do a field trip, huh?
joe rogan
Go to the kava bars.
Go kava bar hopping.
theo von
See what it is?
joe rogan
Whatever's in that feel free is like, woo, that's a nice feeling.
theo von
I'm gonna have to try a little bit tonight, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was just a little wary of it when everybody at the club got nervous, so I had to start doing a deep dive, like, what's in it?
What are people worried about?
What's this lawsuit?
What's the class action lawsuit?
theo von
How do you feel when you drink it?
joe rogan
I just want to start dancing.
Yeah, I like it.
I don't think it's bad.
I don't feel I always just judge like how do I feel?
How do I feel after?
Yeah, and after I feel fine.
I feel fine like it was no hangover I got this many times where I feel good because I had a few tequilas and then and they get up in the morning like oh you fucking idiot, you know a little bit of a headache and Dragging my ass, and then I get in a cold plunge, and I just feel like an idiot.
theo von
It's hard to get back to even.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to get back to even.
theo von
Oh, dude, I used to do this.
Sometimes I would do so much cocaine, my freaking eyes would dry out.
joe rogan
Look at you grinding.
You're thinking about it.
theo von
Oh, dude, yeah.
unidentified
Fucking argh.
theo von
I remember I had to lick my hands and then rub it into my eyes.
unidentified
Whoa.
theo von
So that I could even blink well.
unidentified
Jesus.
theo von
I always get dehydrated, boy.
joe rogan
That's deep.
You go deep, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
But you're that dude.
You go deep with whatever the fuck you're doing.
theo von
Let's go.
I like to get right on the fucking...
I like to be a peeping Tom if I can.
I'll watch your whole family eat dinner.
I used to love that shit, boy.
On coke?
Huh?
joe rogan
On coke?
theo von
On anything.
Boy, I fucking love to watch a family eat from the distance.
joe rogan
The audio of you and I talking about how addictive vapes are, that has been used on so many different TikTok videos and reels.
theo von
How addictive are those things?
jamie vernon
I didn't want to differ too far, but have you ever heard of this thing called frogging, spelled with a PH? Mm-mm.
joe rogan
No?
jamie vernon
It's like an online community.
There's probably a website.
People try to live in your house without you knowing about it.
joe rogan
That's a good way to die.
I guarantee you that doesn't take place much in Texas.
theo von
Yeah, I think that's a San Francisco game, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't buy that.
theo von
Dude, one time, I had a babysitter, and they found a guy under their bed in their house, and what a scary thing that was.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
theo von
She came up the stairs, and she could see under the bed, because the bedroom door was open when she walked up the stairs, and she saw a guy under there.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
What'd they do?
theo von
They called the police, and he was mentally unwell, so they had to...
joe rogan
Duh.
Yeah, I... There's not a lot of dudes who really have their shit together.
They're hiding under kids' beds.
unidentified
That's true.
theo von
He was mentally unwell.
Hey, can you keep me down?
I gotta be up.
I gotta be at work in two hours.
joe rogan
Mentally unwell.
Let's not get hasty here.
Let's not label the guy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He was doing a little bit of frogging.
Whatever, whatever.
theo von
But I love how we're in a space now, Joe, where people breaking and living in people's houses is just like a new...
jamie vernon
As I'm leaning into an article about it, this makes a whole lot of sense because I've lived in a place where it's explaining...
It says it happened at Ohio State.
There's giant houses where 14 people are living together and you're in and out all day long and someone can sneak into a room and you just think it's a friend if you saw him in the hallway, maybe.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a little bit different.
jamie vernon
It's a slightly different thing.
I'm not breaking into houses.
joe rogan
Why do they name it Frogging?
theo von
That, I... Yeah, so it's not a guy eating flies and stuff and hiding in your wall.
jamie vernon
Because they go from place to place.
Sometimes it's...
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
Hopping.
Yeah, as much as they can.
joe rogan
Victims often sense something is amiss, but easily doubt themselves and hesitate to seek help.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
At least at first.
Not me, bro.
I'll be clearing that house.
Locked and loaded.
I probably have a vest on.
I'll probably fucking velcro a vest on and go clear that fucking house.
theo von
I would just ask everybody if they live there or not.
How do you not know if somebody lives with you?
joe rogan
Because they're sneaking around.
They're like sleeping in closets and shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're all fucked up all day.
They're 20-year-old kids.
joe rogan
They're dumb as shit.
theo von
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm talking about like a regular house, like your house.
theo von
Yeah, if somebody was sleeping, I did think there was somebody in the attic for a while because I would hear things sometimes, like little settling, but I went up there and there's nothing.
joe rogan
Probably rats.
theo von
Yeah, it could have been.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
I'm trying to think of what else has been going on.
jamie vernon
The other thing I saw last night, the American Gladiators documentary started on ESPN. Yeah.
Have you seen any of it or anything?
joe rogan
Well, dude, I was around when American Gladiators was huge.
jamie vernon
So this is the guy that created it or has found it.
The documentary is very interesting because this guy who is credited as the creator, I think, he's not very forthcoming and honest with everything and he won't answer the guy's questions a lot, which is kind of strange.
So he made a good documentary about it and not all the gladiators would come talk about it.
He's very...
Open about the like, I didn't pay them and if they wanted to leave, go ahead and leave.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
What?
joe rogan
The American Gladiators didn't get paid?
jamie vernon
They were making $25,000 for 52 episodes, they said.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
Two shows a day.
That's what they get into in this.
It's like how big the marketing got.
There was 13 million viewers, I think, at one point per show.
theo von
He crushed it with all the...
And he paid them nothing.
jamie vernon
Nothing.
unidentified
Piece of shit.
jamie vernon
They were getting hurt really bad.
One of the guys was a big one.
They show how bad he is right now.
He's walking around.
He can't feel half of his limbs.
Seven herniated discs.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
unidentified
God.
theo von
Remember they had names like, it was like Fierce and like River.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
Ice Cube.
Yeah.
unidentified
Thunder.
theo von
Thunder.
Now it's like- Barnacle.
Lethargy.
They're all in wheelchairs.
joe rogan
Didn't they bring American Gladiators back at one point in time?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they tried bringing it back, but the thing I find interesting about this guy is he started off his career as an Elvis personator, which is why he looks- A little bit like Elvis.
joe rogan
That dude doesn't look anything like Elvis.
He's lying.
He was obsessed with Elvis?
jamie vernon
That could have been part of it.
He could be putting on about how much he got.
theo von
Ben Berman, huh?
jamie vernon
It's a very interesting documentary.
I'll just say it.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean like he might have been lying about how much money he made?
jamie vernon
He's lying about a lot of stuff, and the guy who's making it asks him, and you can hear him asking him, and he just sort of stops.
He's like, I'm not going to talk about that.
joe rogan
He looks like a low-level MMA promoter.
That's what he looks like.
He looks like one of those guys that our guys could take on the UFC's best champions any day of the week.
Yeah, he's one of those guys.
That's what he looks like.
theo von
Yeah, that guy definitely looks maybe a little bit like a sneaky guy.
joe rogan
Oh, he definitely looks sneaky.
theo von
I'm trying to think of the first sneaky guy I ever met.
joe rogan
The first sneaky guy you ever met?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
You really can go back that far?
theo von
Oh, yeah.
When you met somebody in like a utter sneaky.
joe rogan
Sneaky.
Well, you mean a lot of them in the comedy business.
The kind of club owner business.
You ever been ripped off by a club?
theo von
Dude, there was a club where I felt bad that...
People didn't come, and I was like, you guys can pay me less, and they paid me less, I remember.
joe rogan
Because no one was there?
You said they could.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's not a robbery.
That's a deal.
theo von
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
You made a deal.
You were a nice guy.
You were trying to help out the club, and you felt bad.
theo von
Yeah, I made a bad deal.
joe rogan
Get another hit for that.
Feel better.
Oh, Jesus, you went in deep.
You got your nostrils right up to the top.
Give me that.
theo von
I like that.
joe rogan
I don't want you to be out there on your own.
theo von
Oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
theo von
A hunting we will go.
A hunting...
joe rogan
You want some of this, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I remember.
joe rogan
You remember?
Oh, that's all you need?
I can't remember.
I just did it 10 seconds ago.
unidentified
Dude, you sound like a guy crying in the 40s.
joe rogan
Like his dog died.
unidentified
Oh, Yeller, I'm gonna miss you.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
theo von
Dude, do you ever think like, do you ever think like the, do you think, remember we were talking about like frequencies, like there could be other ways to evaluate what's going on with us.
Do you think we'll ever get like new ways to look at our, like to quantify ourselves and how we're feeling and stuff?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so with science.
Yeah, I think with new innovation and technology.
They'll probably develop ways to recognize the amount of energy that your body has.
You know, because, like, some people are just, they have energy.
Like, what is energy?
Like, I always think of that.
I switched back to the carnivore diet.
I go back and forth on that and for the most part, I eat mostly meat and fruit and some vegetables.
That's like most of my diet.
Occasionally I go crazy like we were in the Bronx.
We went to this Italian deli and these giant sandwiches.
It was amazing.
But that's a rare deviation of my path.
I had this moment, I guess it was about two weeks ago, where I was like, you know what, the best I ever felt, like literally the best I ever felt all throughout the day was when I was on the carnivore diet.
Let me go back to that.
Let me see what that's like.
And one of the things that I saw, like immediately, for seven, eight days, I ate nothing but meat and eggs and fat and bacon and nothing else.
I mean, I was real strict.
And my brain was working so much better.
It was weird.
Like I wasn't searching for...
It was like I had more access to my ability to form sentences.
I was thinking clearer.
It was more effortless to have conversations.
And I was like, this is interesting.
This is very interesting.
Because this is not how I normally feel.
This is like me at my optimum.
But I'm able to sustain this multiple days in a row.
And I think that a lot of the foods that we eat, foods that have preservatives, a lot of bread and bullshit and just shitty food, your body uses so much resources to process that and it's not real food.
It's kind of bad for you, right?
And so your body is just like overburdened with this extra work.
When you eat clean, like really clean, I'm eating, you know, wild game and fat and beef tallow and all that and eggs.
Your body doesn't have any bullshit to process.
So your body is less inflammation, and you're operating off of ketones, essentially, for the most part, because your body is entering into a ketogenic state.
You just feel even through the whole day.
I never felt like at the end of the day, like, oh boy, I'm tired.
There was none of that.
theo von
So that's mostly on the keto diet.
joe rogan
Well, it's carnivore.
Carnivore diet.
But carnivore, you must reach periods of ketosis.
There's a process called gluconeogenesis, I believe it is.
See if that's correct.
And I think that what that is, is when your body consumes only protein, your body will convert some of that protein into glucose.
And that actually can knock you out of a ketogenic state if you eat too much protein.
But...
But when you eat like that, I mean, everybody's different, clearly.
I know people that function very well on a vegetarian diet.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not for me, dude.
theo von
I like the lunch of this.
joe rogan
Yeah, gluconeogenesis take you out of ketosis, a widespread fear Surrounding keto is that consuming too much protein may lead to the upregulation of a process called gluconeogenesis and throw you out of ketosis, undoing all your hard work.
The truth is gluconeogenesis is essential for our overall health and actually allows us to remain in ketosis.
Oh, okay.
So it's good.
So whatever that is.
That's how I function at my best.
So that's how I eat now.
Like last night when Dave brought the pizza backstage, it looked good.
theo von
What'd you do?
joe rogan
I wanted a piece.
I was like, I'm not eating it.
theo von
Did you leave the room or anything?
unidentified
No!
theo von
Or what were some of your methods you used to stay away from it?
joe rogan
I don't really...
I don't have to do that.
I just go, no.
Just not eating it.
theo von
Did you do a gum or anything to keep yourself busy?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I wasn't even itchy.
I wasn't itchy.
You know, if I had a couple of cocktails in me, though, I probably would have grabbed a slice.
theo von
Oh, fuck yeah, boy.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
A couple of tequilas.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Next thing you know, I want some pizza.
theo von
Oh, dude, I'll fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
I'll do whatever after that, boy.
joe rogan
I think I'm done.
I lost five pounds in two weeks.
And not anything but fat.
Just immediately my body just went shriveled up.
theo von
Do you have some fitness goals?
Like at this point in your life, you've kind of been through fitness a lot.
It's been a big part of your life.
Do some of your fitness goals kind of change as we get a little bit older, do you think?
joe rogan
Not for me, no.
No, because with hormone replacement and all the stuff that I do, even at 55, my buddy functions essentially the same way I did when I was 30. And I'm not exaggerating.
Like, I have no problem doing hard workouts, kettlebells, heavy bag workout, jujitsu.
Injuries are an issue, you know, with me.
Like, I just tweaked my back muscle the other day doing some deadlifts.
But nothing serious.
But, um...
But as far as fitness goals, it's just to maintain this.
I know I have an extraordinary level of fitness from my age, and I just maintain that.
And I think that if you can maintain it, that's the key.
The real problem with people is they get out of shape, and then getting back in shape is very hard.
It's a fucking grind.
It's a grind.
And for me, for my mental health...
Man, I am not the same person if I don't exercise.
You know, that whole thing with the frequencies?
I'm at my best as a human being, as a friend, as a husband, as a father, as a comedian, as a podcast host, just as a neighbor, as a general person.
I'm at my best.
If I work out.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
100% of the time.
I'm less anxious.
I don't have any demons.
Everything's good.
I exercise it all out.
It's just like...
It's like a purge that I have to do.
I have to do that purge.
And if I don't...
I don't fucking...
I don't get that out.
Then I have all this extra...
All this extra unnecessary angst and...
Weirdness and I think that's most people man.
I mean when I go like I've been injured before where I couldn't do anything for like a week or two and you start getting depressed.
You start feeling like shit.
You start feeling real dull and sad and like it's not and I think that is a lot of people out there that suffer from depression.
In fact, they say that exercise is one and a half times more effective than SSRIs for curing depression.
theo von
Oh, in a heartbeat, man.
Because I take SSRIs and I do exercise.
If I take my SSRI, I don't feel really anything.
I just feel like, oh, I took my SSRI. But if I go for a run, like even today, I had to go run a couple miles.
I was like, I know I'm going to be on here.
I want to have my good energy going.
I'm going to go for a run.
And so, yeah, I know that it makes me feel better if I do something athletic.
joe rogan
What SSRI are you taking?
theo von
I think I'm a Lexapro right now.
I take the generic one, whatever the cheaper one is.
You know, I think it's...
I don't know what it is, but it is...
They say it's fine.
You know?
So I don't know if I believe them, but I mean, I'm fucking taking it.
Now, I would like to maybe take 30 days off and try ayahuasca again.
I feel like I'm getting back around where I would like to do it again, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah?
theo von
Yeah.
unidentified
Dude.
theo von
I would, man.
Because I want to fucking feel.
I want to be right up there on nature's fucking...
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
I want to be in there.
theo von
Eavesdropping on nature's nuts, boy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
God, I'll be right up there.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
What'd you say, boy?
joe rogan
Eavesdropping on nature.
Right up next to it.
theo von
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
Feeling it.
theo von
Oh, ayahuasca, dude.
You'll fucking...
Mother Nature, she'll break out that wiener and you'll be like, damn, I didn't know Mother Nature had a wiener, you know?
joe rogan
Mother Nature's got everything.
theo von
It's powerful, dude.
That ayahuasca stuff is real powerful.
So I would like to do that again.
joe rogan
Dude, what is the reason why you take the SSRIs?
theo von
I think because when I'm off of them, something feels wrong.
I feel...
It's a battle.
a battle it's a battle to even if i do running and i do fitness right it's a battle to keep myself even so instead of dealing with that at a more intense level i choose to take them because it just makes it a little bit easier i don't think it's taking the easy way out though because if i don't take them and i still do all those things it's hard for me to get to a good baseline What do you mean by wrong?
joe rogan
Like when you say you feel wrong, what does it feel like?
theo von
I feel like at any moment kind of my feelings can just drop off into like a really surprised low.
joe rogan
Out of nowhere for no reason.
theo von
Yes.
Sometimes with a little bit of motivation to it, right?
Or some trigger.
But the level that it drops off to, it's too much of a drop.
For me to not get some help.
If it were a little bit and it felt manageable, that's okay.
But when it's pretty steep, it's like, oh man, this feels sometimes scary.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
theo von
But doing that ayahuasca stuff made it a lot easier.
Better than it had ever been.
joe rogan
Neil Brennan said it basically cured him.
theo von
Yeah, he's the one who took me to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he said it made him much happier.
It cured him of, like, a lot of his, what he felt like were personality disorders that he had.
You know?
Like, Neil's a...
Neil's a great guy.
Very, very smart.
Very smart.
And sometimes, you know, I wonder about real smart guys.
They're just always thinking about things and maybe too much about certain things.
And, you know, you just get overwhelmed by thoughts and anxiety and emotions.
And anxiety is a lot of what anxiety a lot of is fretting about possibilities for a lot of people.
You know, it's the inability to live in the moment.
And you forgot about anxiety.
And a lot of it has to do with childhood trauma.
A lot of it has to do with genetics.
Anxiety is a weird thing.
They think that anxiety, whether it's a learned behavior or not, you can actually get it from your parents.
I don't know why.
theo von
I could see that.
joe rogan
Can you get anxiety?
Is anxiety genetic?
Google that.
theo von
My mom made us anxious.
joe rogan
Yeah?
theo von
Yeah, dude.
Sometimes my mom, we'd go get ice cream, dude, and she would like, she's like, she'd get angry if we, she'd get so angry if we dripped any of it.
joe rogan
Here it goes.
There's clear research showing that anxiety is influenced by genetics.
In fact, experts noticed a family connection for anxiety even before they understood how DNA or genes worked.
If you have a close relative with anxiety, your chance of developing is about two to six times higher than if you don't.
theo von
Well, I don't know if that's genetic or if it's just like...
joe rogan
Learned behavior.
theo von
Yeah, if your mom is always or your dad is always like, bah, they're fucking anxious, and they're fucking, if they come over and they're always fucking tickling you, then you're gonna fucking feel tickled all the time.
joe rogan
If you're always getting fucked with.
theo von
Yeah, yeah, something, you know, bugging you or something, even just tickling you with their words.
joe rogan
Yeah, genetics of generalized anxiety disorder and related traits.
Well, for sure, mental illness is genetic.
There's a lot of people that are mentally ill and their children are mentally ill, or their family's mentally ill, or, you know, it's like, it's...
Man, I used to have a much more ignorant view on mental health, because I have my own mental health issues, which I'm sure we all do, but mine was like, just don't be a pussy.
Get your work done, you feel great.
And I don't have to take anything, and even though I don't have to take anything, I'm still doing something to mitigate it.
I'm doing something every day to work on it, and when I don't, I do feel it, like a lot of people do.
So I always wonder, maybe those people just aren't doing the work.
Maybe if they just got up in the morning and went running before work or did something before, maybe they could get through this and not need a fucking pill.
I don't think that anymore.
theo von
Interesting.
Yeah, I think it's...
I think, yeah, there's times where I thought that I'm just not tough enough.
I'm just not doing enough.
I'm not enough to battle this, right?
And then I get to a point where so many times I tried to stop taking it.
It's like it's too much of a discrepancy that makes things unmanageable to a point where it feels like it's unfair to be that unmanageable to myself.
So I get back on it, you know, and And I don't think it really bothers me or anything like that, but...
Yeah, it's kind of the same with alcoholism.
Like, I thought alcoholism used to just be like somebody couldn't stop drinking or whatever.
joe rogan
Right.
theo von
But there's so much more.
I mean, alcoholism is the only disease that will tell you you don't have the disease, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
theo von
That's crazy.
Like, imagine if you put on, like, a shirt, right?
But every couple days, a shirt was like, guess what?
You don't have a shirt on.
unidentified
I don't think...
joe rogan
That's a good analogy.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
I don't know if it is, but it seems like it.
But that's what alcohol is.
joe rogan
Because alcoholism would tell you you don't have a problem.
theo von
Right.
joe rogan
You don't have a problem.
Have another drink.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Relax.
theo von
Have another Coke.
Have some more Coke.
unidentified
Have a bump.
theo von
Yeah.
Have another family.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Brian Simpson was telling us he went through a brief period of time where he was doing a lot of Adderall.
And he said, like a week, he said he did a week of Adderall.
And he said, man, he's like, that shit, that shit pulls you in.
unidentified
Really?
He said that?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's like, that shit pulls you in.
He goes, it makes you focus.
He He told this fucking hilarious story about he went to jerk off and he had 90 tabs open and he was looking at porn for five hours because he couldn't pick one that he liked the best.
I was like, you gotta talk about that on stage.
Brian Simpson is so fucking funny.
He is so fucking funny.
theo von
Oh yeah, he's great.
joe rogan
He is so funny.
His way of looking at things is so interesting because he's so thoughtful.
When he thinks about things, he never comes up with a half-ass take on things.
His take on things is like he's been thinking about it for a long time before he brings it up.
theo von
Yeah, I like listening to him.
There's something really unique about him.
joe rogan
Very unique comedy style too.
Relaxed and punchlines are crisp.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love a crisp punchline.
unidentified
Bang!
theo von
Yeah, you're pretty...
You like to have things kind of organized.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's the best...
You also have the disorganized moments.
You know, where you're fucking around.
Like, if I have new bits, there's a lot of disorganized moments.
theo von
Yeah, I was watching you perform last night.
It was cool.
joe rogan
Thank you.
theo von
Yeah.
A lot of it was new stuff that I hadn't heard.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got about a half hour of new shit.
theo von
It was...
Yeah, there was a couple things I was laughing at, man.
It was fun.
God, that was so much fun over there.
joe rogan
God, it's so fun, right?
theo von
I can't believe you have your own club, dude.
joe rogan
Doesn't it feel like it's been open forever, though?
It feels weird in there.
theo von
Well, I think some of it because it's been such a journey for you that other people have kind of been on with you in a way.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, also, all these guys who had faith in me, who moved out here, and moved out here when I didn't even have a club yet.
And we were all just operating out of the Vulcan.
But the shows of the Vulcan were so fun.
People were like, man, I think I believe him.
That's us last night.
Come on, son.
Look at that picture.
Come on.
Louie, Dave, Tom, Ron, me, Ian, Theo, motherfucking Vaughn, Ahsan, Derek.
Come on, man.
theo von
Wow.
joe rogan
That was a great night.
What a show, too.
What a fucking show.
theo von
I know, dude.
I can't believe we get to do this for our job.
There you are.
There I am.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
It's the greatest job in the history of the world.
theo von
Dave Attell.
joe rogan
For us.
Look at Dom up there, killing it.
theo von
Dude, Ron, look at him, huh?
joe rogan
Murdering.
Murdering.
theo von
I retired.
joe rogan
Bitch, you ain't retired.
You've been at my club four days a week.
theo von
Fuck us.
joe rogan
He had a retirement party.
I'm like, I am not going to your fucking fugazi.
unidentified
He had a retirement party?
joe rogan
He had a retirement party.
I'm like, I am not going to your fucking fugazi retirement party.
I know you, Ron White.
You're too goddamn good.
He's too goddamn good.
That guy's never going to quit doing comedy.
He's too good.
theo von
Even just listening to him is fun.
And he has a time period trapped in him that a lot of people don't have it.
He's got that rural Texas way and a look at the world.
You have to have that voice still out there.
You have to.
joe rogan
He's a real legend.
And having him around the club all the time, it's like, it's so morale-boosting for everybody.
I just saw this video of him in 1989. Give me some of this.
unidentified
You know, I was amazed by this.
Twenty-one of us took us down there to the Guadalupe River.
We had six ice chests full of beer.
We floated down that river drinking beer for six and a half hours.
theo von
not one person had to pee.
unidentified
Now I find that to be remarkable bladder control.
I'd like to think my friends wouldn't pee on themselves.
I know I would.
That's the best thing about tubing the river.
You could just paddle up to somebody you don't even know.
theo von
Oh, that is pretty true, dude.
Just peeing right next to somebody.
There's nothing...
joe rogan
Look at him back then!
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Look at him back then with the long hair.
He was like a hippie.
Early 90s.
Wow.
theo von
There's nothing better than being in a pool talking to somebody and peeing at the same time.
I get point blank range.
joe rogan
There's a lot of things better than that.
theo von
Yeah, you're right.
You're right, boy.
joe rogan
There's a lot of things better than that.
That's not even in the top thousand.
unidentified
I mean...
joe rogan
Out of all the good things, the smell of fresh baked bread is better than that.
theo von
Maybe, dude.
joe rogan
Without even eating it.
unidentified
I mean, yeah, if you got a fucking kitchen or whatever.
theo von
Yeah, but still, I'm saying if you're really just out in the elements, dude, be in point-blank range urinating in somebody else's space.
joe rogan
That doesn't do anything good for me.
I feel like a terrible person for pissing on somebody.
theo von
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
theo von
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Why are you out there peeing on people?
theo von
We're better than that.
joe rogan
We're better than that.
theo von
Yeah, we are.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
theo von
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
We're better than that.
theo von
You're right.
I'm not going to let that affect me anymore.
joe rogan
Are you excited about tonight?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's fucking go.
theo von
Yeah, I'm excited, dude.
joe rogan
I get excited every time I go there.
theo von
You do?
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't believe it's real.
Still can't believe it's real.
When I walk in, I can't believe it's real.
Say hi to everybody, can't believe it's real.
All these people are working.
Staff.
unidentified
Hi!
joe rogan
How's everybody doing?
Can't believe it's real.
Go upstairs, all the comics are there, hanging out.
It's a party every night.
It's like the best night of your life, every night.
It's like what we had at the store, better.
It really is.
It's crazy.
It's the environment, and it's so perfectly set up for stand-up.
And the audiences are so hyped.
I mean, you get there at 9.30, there's a fucking line around the block waiting to get on that 10 o'clock show.
It's nuts.
theo von
It is exciting, man.
I mean, even just seeing people excited to be at a club again is exciting, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, this town has really embraced it, you know, because it was a long time that I was, you know...
Us moving here was a big deal.
There's a lot of articles written like this stand-up comedy has moved to Austin.
And then when I said I was going to open up a club, there was like a lot of hype about that.
And it was almost better that the first place didn't work out because it took so long before we bought the second place and then started construction.
It was a whole year process after that.
It was a lot going on.
It was like a year and a half of just straight construction.
theo von
Did you feel at some point, like, was there ever a point where you were like, I don't know if this is going to work out, but I've already said it's going to, so I have to do it?
joe rogan
No.
No, because fortunately, I had the resources.
So it wasn't like, if I was stressed out financially, and I was like cutting it close, that would have been a different experience.
This experience was like, what do we got to do?
Okay, let's do that.
What's the best thing to do?
Do that.
You know, like when Louis came.
Louis C.K. came and I showed him the club and he fucking loved it, but he gave me all these good suggestions.
One of the things he said, the stage in the small room was too big.
And he was like, you're right.
He was like, yeah, you should cut it down four feet on each side.
So I got the construction guys over here.
It was before we poured the cement, so all the rebar was cut, the metal was in place, and I was like, let's make it smaller.
Cut it here and cut it there.
And they're like, well, this is going to take more time.
I'm like, yeah, but we've got to do it right.
Let's do it right.
Lower the ceiling, shrink the stage, lower the ceiling in the big room, sound editing everywhere.
Because a lot of comics like...
They like echo in a comedy club because it makes the laughs louder, but it also makes it harder to hear what the person's saying because all the sound is bouncing around.
theo von
Yeah, I don't like that.
I like it with carpet or, you know, like as much can be absorbed.
joe rogan
That's what you want.
What we got now is perfect.
theo von
Yeah, Louie's awesome, man.
Louie came on my podcast and we had one of the best chats I've ever had with somebody.
joe rogan
You told me that YouTube removed your RFK podcast.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
What happened?
theo von
Yeah, they said some of the clips were in violation of their medical policies, or like stuff that goes against the WHO. Do you know that North Korea just joined the WHO? North Korea has like an executive position on the board of the WHO. See what that is.
joe rogan
Which is insane.
This is literally a country that starves their citizens and the WHO is allowing them I mean, it's just...
What is the WHO? What the fuck?
You're telling me that Robert Kennedy Jr. is lying?
Because I bet he's not.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I bet everything he said is true.
I bet everything he said could be backed up by data.
theo von
Well, I mean, one thing that I love about Bobby or Robert Kennedy, he's a friend of mine, and I've always really...
He's an environmentalist, right?
That's how he started.
He was an environmentalist.
So it makes sense that he would care about the environment inside of our bodies as well, right?
Like he has this River Keepers organization.
They're just about keeping the waters clean.
And his whole life has been about that kind of stuff.
So I don't know.
I found it just like, yeah, if somebody wants to object to the status quo or raise their hand and ask questions...
That makes perfect sense to me.
And then also he's not like an anti-vaxxer, but he's about like vaccine efficacy, right?
Which means I think like...
joe rogan
It's about honest vaccine efficacy.
Like what's the real data versus what are they selling you?
Because if you look at the COVID vaccine, for example, they sold us something that wasn't accurate.
They said that it was going to stop transmission.
They said that it was going to stop infection.
It did neither of those things.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They also said that it was going to offer long-lasting protection.
It did not.
It just didn't.
And they said it was safe and effective.
How can they know that?
It's a new product.
And you're administering it to hundreds of millions of people without a lengthy trial period like they do with every other drug.
So all these people were, like, wanting it to be effective, so they were doing the work of the pharmaceutical companies, which they've never done before.
No one has ever, like, said, you've got to trust these people that have the biggest fucking criminal fines in U.S. history.
These people that have been lying to us left and right.
These people that have...
They've been tried and convicted for lying about the side effects, for lying about the efficacy, whether or not something is addictive.
We know that with the opioid crisis.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
You watch Dope Sick for...
I mean, that's unbelievable.
You get involved and it's unbelievable what's happened with all of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is...
And the Sackler family just got...
They just...
They had to give...
I think it was like...
A large payment, I think it was like six or eight billion dollars, and that gives them immunity.
That was very recent.
See if you can find that.
theo von
But that's fucking nothing.
joe rogan
Sackler family wins immunity from opioid lawsuits, which is fucking wild.
theo von
Unreal.
joe rogan
Six billion.
theo von
What about all the people that fucking died?
What about all the fucking kids that overdosed?
What about all the families who had a child who sprained their fucking ankle and two years later lost their kid to addiction because this company didn't care and because the FDA was compromisable.
I'm sorry, man.
That shit fucking makes me angry.
I think these people should be fucking hung, dude.
joe rogan
It's evil.
It's evil.
theo von
That's what it is.
joe rogan
They absolutely lied about whether or not it was addictive.
In exchange, they will pay $6 billion to help address opioid addiction.
theo von
What does that even mean?
What does that mean?
joe rogan
What does that mean?
How are you going to address it?
Hey guys, opioids are addictive.
Who knows?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
The payments will be spread over multiple years, but look at how much they made.
See, the thing is, they're collectively worth $11 billion, and they had to give up $6 billion.
So how much money did they make off of opiates?
See, that's the thing that happened with Vioxx.
With Vioxx, they got in trouble.
theo von
What is it, Vioxx?
joe rogan
Vioxx is an anti-inflammatory that didn't particularly work very well and also killed a bunch of people.
Killed at least 50,000 Americans.
A friend of mine got a stroke from it.
It caused all these issues with people.
They were aware of it.
There's internal documents that showed that it was going to be a problem.
They knew it was going to be a problem.
But in the internal documents, they said, but we think we will do very well with this.
So they did very well financially.
I think they made something like $12 billion off of Vioxx, and they had to give up $5.
So they got a fine of $5 billion.
But that means they had all that profit.
theo von
That's a lot.
joe rogan
It's sick.
theo von
When did that start to happen in our country?
When did it start to happen that we're not protecting our...
b-real
People like when did that does that mean like Profit it's all profit if there was no money in this they would go after those folks 100% there's money when there's money in our time an existence of time was there a point where That wasn't the way of the thing well here's the first problem Advertising for pharmaceutical drugs on television.
joe rogan
Advertising for pharmaceutical drugs is illegal in every country in the world except for New Zealand and the United States.
You shouldn't be able to influence people to want to take These drugs that they may or may not need.
That should be entirely a conversation between you and your healthcare provider.
Someone should be giving you an educated understanding of what the pros and cons are, and this is why I think you need this, and this is why you should take that.
It shouldn't be you coming to your doctor.
Ask your doctor if la-la-la is right for you.
Do you have days where blah-blah-blah, do you have that?
Well, la-la-la is for you.
And they have these fucking people dancing around in wheat fields.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and spinning their daughter around on a merry-go-round, and everything looks like a great old time.
theo von
Yeah.
Yeah, they have, like, two black people, like, hugging in a bathtub or something.
joe rogan
It's a cookout.
unidentified
Everybody's having a great time.
joe rogan
Bliss.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's about happy moments.
But here's the thing.
You take those pills, they're not going to invite you to that cookout.
You still got no friends.
theo von
You just had home on pills, dude.
I've done it.
You're not doing CPR on some senior citizen somewhere.
joe rogan
You're out there playing pickleball in the sun.
You're out there suffering by yourself.
But it's crazy.
It's like everybody wants to be happy.
So the problem with advertising is, I mean, it's one thing if you're advertising for a nice pair of shoes or something like that.
I don't find any problem with that.
It makes people want them, but...
What's the downside?
You buy something you really can't afford?
That's the worst downside.
I don't find that to be that much of a problem.
I don't find advertising in general to be a problem because I believe, generally, if you're intelligent, you should be able to navigate that.
But when it comes to things like drugs, and especially when it comes to antidepressants and when it comes to these things that they're advertising, Constantly on television.
Constantly on YouTube.
Just constantly.
The amount of money is so extraordinary that they put into advertising.
It's such a huge chunk of the advertising budgets of television shows.
theo von
It's every show.
joe rogan
Every show.
theo von
I mean, it's not a joke.
It's every show.
It's like, don't we see that that's obviously not...
We don't need everybody to be on pills.
joe rogan
Well, they think you do.
This is what I found so bizarre.
Look, I never thought I would be in the center of any sort of controversy about pharmaceutical drugs or about health care.
Never thought that I would be in the middle of it.
But one of the things that stunned me was talking to these people that were doctors that were fat That were unhealthy, that didn't take vitamins, that didn't exercise, that definitely didn't optimize their health.
And they were trying to put in your head that the only way to be healthy was to get injected with some experimental medical thing.
And that's fucking horseshit.
That's never been the case.
theo von
Ever.
joe rogan
That violates all of our understandings about the human immune system, About health and wellness, about just your overall metabolic health.
It violates all of our understandings.
People who are healthier, people who exercise, people who go outside who get vitamin D, people that are taking vitamin C, people that are supplementing, they have a much better time with any kind of illness they get.
Yeah.
There's a lot of documentation about this.
This is science, too.
But the problem is it's not science that's supported by these companies that are directly funded by pharmaceutical companies.
Whatever these organizing bodies are, whether it's the FDA or the CDC or whatever, when you look at what happens with the FDA and the CDC, how these people go from being presidents and being the people that...
That recommend policy and then they go on to become fucking CFO or CEO of another of a pharmaceutical company.
Yes, there's a fucking revolving door and it's evil.
That shit should not be legal.
theo von
I agree.
joe rogan
It's crazy that they're allowed to do that.
theo von
Well, how do we stop that kind of stuff though?
How do you as like a regular person?
I mean it just like You can't.
joe rogan
A regular person can't.
But you can get the voice out to all these people that these people...
Look, if anything we learned from the pandemic, you can't trust these people.
You cannot trust everything they say as being fact.
You just can't.
There's another thing that got released today about reproductive repercussions of the COVID vaccine.
I'll find that for you.
Because there's people that have been talking about this that they're just now, they're finding out that there absolutely is negative side effects for women that are pregnant, for women's reproductive health, for...
theo von
Well, I'll tell you this, Joe.
joe rogan
See if you can find that.
I think it came from the UK. It just got released today.
theo von
I remember, you know, I grew up in an environment where Tulane University, I've told you this before, they had their primate testing facility in our town, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
And a bunch of chimps got out once and we got to help the police go get them, right?
I told you about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
The polio vaccine, right?
That's where they made it.
And it caused cancer in a lot of women, like in their cervical cancer, I believe.
But they'd already made it.
And they're like, it'll cure, it'll stop polio.
But some women will get, so they just released it.
joe rogan
Did you know that polio, 95% of people get polio, it's asymptomatic?
theo von
So what does that mean?
joe rogan
I'm reading this book about this.
That might not be true.
So I need to make sure that this book is accurate.
But what they're basically saying in this book is that A lot of the cases of polio that we talk about from back in the day, DDT was in widespread use back then.
Widespread use as a pesticide.
And they were using DDT to kill bugs that they thought carried diseases.
But the problem is DDT exposure is insanely toxic.
Now we know that.
Now DDT, they don't use it anymore in America.
But they still use it in other countries where polio-like symptoms are very prevalent.
One of the side effects, one of the effects of DDT poisoning is polio-like symptoms.
I think it's called...
unidentified
Encephalopathy?
joe rogan
See what that is.
DDT side effects.
theo von
We didn't have a lot of polio, I don't think, in our area.
joe rogan
Well, polio was something that was going on in the early part of the 20th century.
And it's widely credited that the polio vaccine is what stopped that.
I used to wholesale believe that until this pandemic, and now I question everything.
Now I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know what the truth is, whether it's smallpox or polio.
I have a feeling that there's a lot more to the story than what the general narrative is that we've been given, is that vaccines are this amazing cure.
I think there's a lot of other factors, and I think one of the other factors was hygiene.
And the book is called Dissolving Illusions, and it's all about the origins of vaccines and what vaccines have done to stop disease spread and what the negative side effects have been.
And it's just like, there's a lot of negative side effects, man.
And to pretend that it's safe and effective, like when you're administering things to millions, if not hundreds of millions of people.
There's gonna be some problems and they don't want to advertise those problems.
They don't want to make those problems publicly known.
theo von
Oh yeah, there's side effects.
You can't fucking whisper, you can't see far.
There's all kind of fucking side effects.
Dude, we had a guy who broke into Walgreens and did like seven...
He was addicted to the fucking COVID vaccine.
He did like seven inoculations.
joe rogan
I got a lady in my neighborhood that keeps getting boosted.
Her doctor told her stop getting boosted.
Doctor's like, no more.
She's like, I gotta go to LA. I need to get boosted.
The doctor's like, it's enough.
It's enough.
jamie vernon
This is most of the side effects I can find.
joe rogan
Okay.
DDT at low environmental doses or unknown following exposure to high doses.
Human symptoms can include vomiting, tremors or shakiness and seizures.
Laboratory animals showed side effects in liver and reproduction.
DDT is considered possible human carcinogen.
In this book, they were talking about paralysis, all sorts of issues.
theo von
A lot of laboratory animals are pussies, though, aren't they?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's estimated that 95 to 99% of people who contract polio virus are asymptomatic.
Isn't that wild?
unidentified
Wow.
theo von
So what does that mean?
You don't even know you had it?
joe rogan
Right.
It doesn't affect it.
Your body fights it off.
theo von
That was the same for me.
I remember I came here and got tested for COVID by you guys, and I had the antibodies.
joe rogan
Yeah, you had it and you didn't even know.
That was a lot of people with COVID. But I think that's people that are healthier.
I think that's people that got exposed to it.
I know I got exposed to it because my whole family got it.
My wife got it.
Both my kids got it.
And I was at home with them.
I didn't protect myself at all because I was like, they seem okay.
I'm healthy as fuck.
I'm like, let's see what happens.
And I never got it.
And I didn't protect myself at all.
I had sex with my wife.
I hugged my kids.
theo von
My wife was like, you're going to get it.
joe rogan
I go, I'm not going to get it.
I'm not gonna get it.
I'm gonna hold my breath.
It was one of those things where I was trying to see, and there was two days where I worked out.
Two days.
And during those days where I was working out, I was like, ooh, I feel weak.
And so I just like broke a sweat.
I just didn't push myself.
I just gently worked out.
I did like 35-pound kettlebells, nothing crazy.
I went through a mobility workout.
I did it two days in a row.
And then the third day, I felt fucking great.
The third day, my body was like, let's go.
And I had a hard workout the third day.
And I'm like, all right, whatever it is, I didn't get it.
b-real
And I didn't even have antibodies.
joe rogan
I had nothing.
I got tested for antibodies.
I'm like, nothing.
So I know I was exposed to it, but my body completely fought it off.
And then the time that I did get it, we had flown to Florida, we did a gig, and then we flew to, I think it was Orlando, did another gig.
We're doing arenas, right?
And it's in the round.
Yeah.
COVID spray people just spraying COVID at you laughing and cheering shit and then I went out my friend John Showman and we I had like five margaritas We played pool till 3 30 in the morning.
Oh wow and you know pools intense for me I play serious pool and there's a lot of concentration and I was tired and And that night I was like, God damn, I don't fucking feel like shit.
theo von
You was tired?
joe rogan
But I thought I was just hungover and drunk.
I thought I was like, oh God, I gotta go to bed.
And I woke up in the morning, I'm like, I don't feel right.
I felt off.
You know, I just felt off.
theo von
And you think it was COVID? 100% it was COVID. Yeah.
joe rogan
And then that night I did an arena.
No problem.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Killed.
Great show.
And then flying back that night, I was really cold.
I was like, is it cold on this plane?
And Tony was like, no, it's not.
I'm like, man, I feel like shit.
And so when I landed, I called my wife.
I go, I don't know, probably nothing's going on, but I feel like shit, so maybe we should sleep in different rooms.
And then I got tested in the morning.
Turned out that I had it.
I was sweating all night.
Like, that night I was, like, very sweaty.
And the next day, got the IVs.
The day after, felt pretty good.
The day after that, I made that video.
And then fucking CNN accused me of taking veterinary medicine.
They didn't like the fact that I got better quick.
theo von
Dude, I took steroids in high school.
I'll take fucking whatever horses are taking.
Horses are doing great, first of all.
You know how many horses are looking awesome?
joe rogan
They do look great.
theo von
What the fuck?
joe rogan
But not only that, that medication is not horse dewormer.
It's literally a human medication that's been prescribed to billions of doses of people.
theo von
It's just fucking shitty news.
joe rogan
It's not just shitty news.
It's propaganda that they did on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies.
They did it under the guise that they're a news organization.
theo von
But how do they get so many people to...
That's why I'm like, how does a medical group get so many people to believe that?
joe rogan
Simple.
theo von
That they shut their businesses down and everything.
joe rogan
Well, they had to.
They had to.
I mean, if the government of LA or the government of California tells you you have to shut your business down, you have to shut your business down.
And to people like me, who got COVID and got over it very quickly, that's infuriating.
Because I have had the flu that lasted a lot longer than that.
Like, with the right medications, you can get over it.
But they didn't want anybody knowing that.
theo von
Right.
joe rogan
That's why they were trying to limit monoclonal antibodies.
They didn't want people just taking that, because you'd just get right better.
theo von
Yeah, I mean, that's one cool thing that Bobby knows about.
He knows about a lot of that stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He's the best source of information about that stuff ever because he can he's so brilliant He can just recite it at any point like you can bring it up and he'll explain to you what the actual test said Versus like the actual test when they said the cova it was the vaccine was a hundred percent effective Do you know they did that how they did that?
Because two people, I think the way it was is like two people in the placebo group got COVID, one person in the vaccine group got COVID. So it's double, which means it's 100% effective.
It was something stupid like that.
Like their measurement of 100% effective is so dishonest.
It's sneaky.
It's like they're technically allowed to say things that way.
But when they were saying things like it stops transmission, they had to admit...
One of the CEOs of Pfizer, one of the head executives, had to give some speech at, I think it was the UK Parliament, and they had to explain that there was no testing done of whether...
They never tested to see if it stopped transmission.
They only tested to see if it gave antibodies.
And it did.
But all that other stuff was horseshit.
You know, like when Rachel Maddow's on TV going, it's going to stop that virus in its tracks.
The virus ends with you.
You can't affect anyone.
You can't get infected.
It's a lie.
That was a lie.
And no one's being punished for that.
And they'll say that Bobby Kennedy is spreading misinformation where everything he said you can verify.
Everything he said is true.
But there's no money in agreeing with him.
supposed news organizations get from being on the side of the pharmaceutical companies and being in their good graces is fucking millions and millions of dollars in advertising revenue and they have a very specific mandate and so does YouTube and that's why YouTube pulled your video yeah I mean it was shocking because the videos have been up for a long time you know You know, the clips had been up for a year.
theo von
And then, yeah, they hit us up and we're like, yeah, we have to take these down because they spread.
joe rogan
What was the specific thing?
theo von
COVID misinformation.
The specific thing that they said about it?
joe rogan
Yeah, what was the specific subject that Bobby brought up that they said was misinformation?
theo von
Let me see if I can find it.
joe rogan
Because a lot of the things that they used to pull videos for back in the day, they don't pull anymore.
theo von
It was, let me see, Bobby Kennedy Jr. on Dr. Fauci.
Trump called for a meeting with Bobby Kennedy Jr. about vaccines.
And Trump and Dr. Fauci met with Bobby Kennedy Jr. about vaccines.
Those three clips.
But I just thought it was interesting that, like, the timing for me was really interesting.
I mean, I was upset.
joe rogan
How long ago was this that they pulled it?
theo von
Two weeks ago.
joe rogan
Really?
theo von
Yeah.
A week and a half ago.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
theo von
So they'd been up for a long time.
So it made me think like, well, why now?
But it also could just be- He's running for president.
joe rogan
That's why.
theo von
That's what I first thought.
And that's probably what I do think.
It could be also, I don't know how the algorithm works, if his name is getting propelled more so then it makes clips more prominent so then they see them.
Yeah, I'm in.
You know I'm in.
But here's, I mean, the thing that upset me the most was that, no, no, a lot of, I don't know.
So many addicts died from all the AA rooms, all the sobriety rooms, all the recovery...
joe rogan
Everything got shut down.
theo von
Shut down.
And so the number of people that died from that is more than the number of people that died from COVID. Well, how about the number of people that died that didn't get diagnosed?
joe rogan
Oh, you covered your face.
I like what you did there.
theo von
I like to fucking get in there, bitch.
joe rogan
You got in there.
You got in there.
theo von
I'm fucking getting in there, boy.
I'll cum in this fucking thing.
joe rogan
Don't do that.
So many people died from a bunch of different things because of it.
theo von
Do you think this is the gayest way you could jerk off if you lay on your back, right?
And jerk off with your legs in the air?
joe rogan
No, I watched a monkey jerk off into his own mouth.
I think that's the gayest way.
The monkey was hanging from his feet, and he jacked off into his own mouth.
theo von
Was he stuck somewhere?
Was he trapped?
joe rogan
No, he was having a good time.
theo von
Oh, yeah, that's crazy, dude.
joe rogan
He wasn't stuck?
unidentified
Uh-oh.
theo von
Yeah, if you're in an avalanche or something, I could see you having a snack.
unidentified
No, I think you leave it in your body.
theo von
I don't know, dude.
unidentified
If you're stuck somewhere, you're telling me you're stuck in an avalanche.
joe rogan
You're going to die, and people are going to find you.
theo von
I think he...
unidentified
He doesn't come before he died.
joe rogan
That's going to be a thing that people try to hide.
theo von
I'd write a note that says I only had a little.
But I'm not dying on an empty stomach.
You know, you'd have to have something.
unidentified
You gotta have something, Joe.
theo von
Bro, you're dying...
You've been trapped for four days in an avalanche.
joe rogan
You think that jerking off in your own mouth is going to give you some form of relief?
theo von
I think it's going to buy you another afternoon of being alive.
joe rogan
A whole afternoon from a load?
What kind of loads are you shooting?
What kind of Peter North-sized loads are you chugging down?
Jesus Christ, I don't think it works that way.
theo von
Oh, I think...
joe rogan
Buy you a whole afternoon?
theo von
That's fucking wiener wine at that point.
If you're stuck in an avalanche...
joe rogan
Like if you had a radio, like, okay, this is going to sound crazy, but to buy yourself a whole other afternoon, Theo, I'm going to need you to jerk off in your mouth.
No.
theo von
Ah, come on, man.
You've changed.
jamie vernon
You just reminded me of this video.
joe rogan
Oh my God, I saw this guy, yeah.
jamie vernon
He's skiing and he sees something sticking up out of the snow.
And it's a snowboard flipped upside down.
joe rogan
Oh, is there a person in there?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
He starts, like, hey, can you hear me?
And the guy sort of answers, I think.
theo von
Oh, there's a lot of guys who will meet up anywhere.
joe rogan
Oh my god, the guy's alive in there?
jamie vernon
It's completely upside down.
theo von
You haven't seen this show?
joe rogan
No, no, I thought this was a different one that I saw.
jamie vernon
So he just starts digging him out.
joe rogan
He luckily had everything he would need.
jamie vernon
He had a shovel in his bag.
theo von
And there's no way if you don't test this dude's breath...
joe rogan
This guy?
theo von
That it doesn't know.
joe rogan
Oh my god, the snowboarder is on his way to be dead.
He's on his way to be dead.
jamie vernon
Can you hear me?
joe rogan
How did he find this guy?
jamie vernon
Dude, the way he...
Look, I'll show you right how he sees it, too.
I'll go back to the beginning.
He's skiing with a friend, and it's...
unidentified
Thick powder.
jamie vernon
He's probably worried about his own life.
joe rogan
For sure.
jamie vernon
And then all of a sudden, I think...
joe rogan
Oh, he sees the little board right there.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
And he has to get back up, too.
joe rogan
That's insane!
theo von
What are the odds?
joe rogan
What are the odds?
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
Yeah, what if they didn't go there?
joe rogan
So scoot ahead to see him pull the dude out.
jamie vernon
You all right?
unidentified
I'm going to help dig you out, okay?
Thank you.
joe rogan
Yeah, no problem, man.
Oh my god, this guy was done.
jamie vernon
There's his mouth.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Oh.
Bro!
theo von
It must be like being reborn.
It must be exactly what it's like to be born.
joe rogan
Look at this guy.
He is deep under that shit.
He was probably out cold.
What did he breathe?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
It must have happened like minutes before.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I haven't read any sort of like follow-up on like how long that guy was there because this has happened.
This happens.
There's other stories I found trying to find this one even.
theo von
How long can somebody breathe under snow, I wonder?
jamie vernon
The other one I found, the guy said he'd been there for six hours.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
theo von
So air must be able to get in there then, huh?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, I guess, like, wherever your space is, that, you know, the creation of space from your head going under and then the snow covering, maybe it's not perfect, so there's some air.
theo von
Like maybe if you make as much space as you can when you're in there?
joe rogan
I mean, how much air can get to you?
theo von
If you had a plant with you.
joe rogan
That guy was covered.
And he was upside down.
theo von
I bet if you had like a small plant or something.
How long does it take a plant to make air, uh, oxygen?
What do you think?
joe rogan
You have to have like a little flower pot with you.
theo von
Yeah, I mean...
joe rogan
Does it work like that?
theo von
Don't use it all up so fast, but I would do little sips.
joe rogan
Like water, if you're in the desert, just take a little sip every now and again.
Man, what are the odds of that guy staying alive?
theo von
That's wild, man.
joe rogan
He's got a new lease on life.
That's a fucked up way to go, too.
Because he was conscious under that.
theo von
That's scary.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it is.
theo von
Being alive feels scary sometimes, doesn't it?
joe rogan
Just regular?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
How so?
theo von
Just like, I feel like it just, you know, it just feels kind of like...
I don't know, it just feels a little spooky.
unidentified
Really?
theo von
I think so sometimes.
joe rogan
Sometimes?
Like right now?
theo von
I think you have moments where you realize you're alive.
You ever have moments like that, like real moments where you're like, holy shit, I'm fucking alive?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
It hits you in a weird way and you're like, I'm fucking alive?
Like, what the hell?
And then you...
It's almost like the same when you have those feelings like, oh my gosh, one day I'm not going to be alive.
It's that same sort of like...
joe rogan
That's a weird one.
theo von
And it gets so like...
There's just sometimes it drops into your body and you can really feel it.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
theo von
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
Dude, do you think the wind, do you think we could ever decipher the wind, like the wind, like, you think the wind is ever trying to tell us something and we don't know how to hear it anymore?
joe rogan
No, the wind is just the wind.
I don't think the wind is trying to tell you something.
Maybe the Earth is trying to tell you something.
theo von
But do you think the Earth might use the wind to try to tell us something?
Because how else would it tell us?
joe rogan
Well, it would definitely be telling you something if you're an animal, that storms are coming.
theo von
Right, right.
So if it tells you that, it could easily give you other information.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I think, really, you're learning it from the animals, though, who know it from the conditions.
There's, like, certain parts of the world where when storms are coming, like, birds will stop chirping, everything gets real quiet, and then people kind of know, uh-oh.
They've learned to know that when the animals behave a certain way, the storm is coming.
Can you imagine what it was like back in the day where you had no idea when a hurricane was coming?
You're just, like, living on some seaside town.
Everything seems fine.
Not to go to bed.
theo von
You're just whistling to your wife.
She's like, play me a tune, Danny.
joe rogan
And the sky becomes an angry monster that tears houses apart.
unidentified
Hello there.
theo von
That's the sky.
joe rogan
That's the wind talking to you.
That's the wind.
theo von
They used to have some dudes that would get out there and try to let the...
You think the wind could jerk you?
You think the wind could make you ejaculate if it were powerful enough?
joe rogan
I think you're horny.
I think you're just thinking about cum a lot.
You got a lady friend?
theo von
Nope.
joe rogan
Maybe that's what's going on.
theo von
Yeah, I just went on vacation by myself.
joe rogan
Whoa, by yourself?
Solo?
theo von
Yep.
joe rogan
Where'd you go?
theo von
Maui.
joe rogan
Really?
What do you do when you go on vacation by yourself?
theo von
Just get up early, go to sleep early.
I was trying to get like my circadian clock or something to get.
Rhythm, yeah?
joe rogan
Reaclimated.
Did you go to like Four Seasons or something?
theo von
Yes.
joe rogan
And just hang out by yourself?
Did you go by the pool?
unidentified
What did you do?
theo von
Went by the pool, went in the beach.
What else did I do?
joe rogan
Did people weird out by you?
Like, hey, are you Theo Vaughn?
theo von
Some people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
Meet a lot of people.
joe rogan
And they're like, what are you doing?
Like, oh, I'm on vacation by myself.
theo von
And they're like, oh.
joe rogan
Okay.
You don't have friends or family or something?
What made you decide to go to Maui by yourself?
Where'd that come from?
theo von
Well, sometimes I like to have time by myself.
I don't get it.
I mean, I guess I get a lot of time by myself, but I wanted to have nothing to do.
unidentified
Right.
theo von
And I wanted to go and get, like, in the beach, where I feel like it's, like, there's something magical about the beach, you know?
It's like, this is where Mother Nature's really fucking, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
This is where she's dialing up the good shit.
joe rogan
So what was the thought process?
You're sitting in front of your computer, you're, like, Googling places to go.
theo von
I need a vacation.
joe rogan
By yourself.
Have you ever done that before?
theo von
No.
joe rogan
I've never done that before either.
theo von
Just my first one by myself.
joe rogan
Yeah?
theo von
So I thought, yeah, I just said I need a vacation.
And then I was like, well, if I told myself I'm going to give myself a vacation, I need to make sure I do it so that I'm not like building up this bad story with myself where I tell myself I'm going to do something and not do it.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
theo von
So, yeah, I went on and I had a nice time.
joe rogan
By yourself?
theo von
Yeah.
Relax.
A lot of Filipinos over there.
You know a lot of Hawaiians are low-key Filipinos?
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't know that.
theo von
Oh, it's remarkable, man.
I met so many Filipinos, man.
They're great, huh?
joe rogan
Oh, I love Filipinos.
theo von
Fuck, they're good.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I played a lot of pool.
theo von
How did they do it?
joe rogan
They're just friendly people, man.
Real friendly people.
theo von
If I die, or whenever I die, if I die, I am going to...
I want the last person I see to be Filipino.
joe rogan
Really?
theo von
Easily.
Who do you want to see, you think?
joe rogan
Why Filipino?
theo von
You're telling me you're dying, right?
You're like, oh gosh.
And then some guys are like, hello.
My name's Joey.
joe rogan
Joey is a common Filipino name.
theo von
Joey, yeah.
Or Sonny.
They have like kind of easy names, you know?
Yeah, friendly names.
Happy names, yeah.
joe rogan
Happy names.
theo von
Yeah.
Everything's fine.
You'll be like, okay.
joe rogan
They're some of the best pool players in the world.
theo von
Are they really?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the American GIs went over to Philippines in, I think it was the 1950s, after World War II. And they introduced them to pool.
I think that's how it happened.
American pool.
theo von
God, they're so good.
I mean, I just, I don't know.
joe rogan
It's huge over there.
theo von
The playing pool is.
joe rogan
Oh my God, yeah.
The real famous pool players, they're famous like a pro baseball player is famous over here.
Like Efren Reyes, he's a celebrity in the Philippines.
Like the greatest pool player of all time.
He's from the Philippines.
theo von
Yeah, I think they just make me the happiest when I see them.
joe rogan
Interesting.
theo von
There's something just so warm and accepting about them.
joe rogan
Especially just island people in general.
When you go to Hawaii, those motherfuckers know how to live.
They know how to live.
They know how to live.
You're living in paradise.
You're walking around in flip-flops.
Like, it's fine.
Everything's gonna be cool.
theo von
Yeah, everything's fine, dude.
joe rogan
Everything's cool.
I love Maui.
theo von
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a great place.
theo von
Well, you told me about it before, I think.
And you told me to even stay at that hotel.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was great.
theo von
You know?
joe rogan
But, Duncan went there.
And when Duncan was there, somebody got ate by a shark.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, not even like that far away from the resort.
theo von
I did snorkeling and it was very alarming.
joe rogan
It's spooky.
theo von
Snorkeling is...
joe rogan
Did you see that video of the dude in a kayak that gets attacked by a tiger shark while he's on the kayak?
theo von
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Bro, this dude's fishing on a kayak, a little kayak, like the size of his fucking table.
And this tiger shark just comes zipping at him and takes a...
Check this out.
unidentified
Watch this.
joe rogan
Give me some volume.
Look at this.
unidentified
Ooh!
Tiger Sharks!
joe rogan
Holy shit, bro.
Watch that again.
Watch this again.
Watch this motherfucker sneak up on him.
He's just chilling.
This is off Oahu.
Look at it coming.
theo von
Damn.
joe rogan
Bro, fuck that.
theo von
You see that...
joe rogan
Ram you?
Bro, that motherfucker bit you.
He beat your boat.
Look at it biting the boat, man.
theo von
That thing doesn't give a fuck, dude.
They don't eat anything.
joe rogan
They're so vicious.
Those are the ones that bite people.
theo von
Some kid just jumped off a ship the other day into the water.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, he fell overboard, right?
theo von
He jumped.
Apparently it was a dare.
This guy was out of Baton Rouge, actually.
joe rogan
Was it on, like, a cruise ship?
theo von
Yeah.
Is he dead?
He disappeared, yeah.
Ooh, disappeared.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Disappeared.
theo von
Would you rather...
Being disappeared is kind of interesting because you could come back.
joe rogan
I don't think he disappeared.
I think he drowned.
theo von
Well, some people say they thought they...
In part of the video, they thought they see a shark.
unidentified
Hmm.
theo von
Do you see the video?
joe rogan
In the middle of the ocean?
You know, most fish are around the middle.
Most fish are within like 200 miles of shore.
theo von
I believe that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Most of the open area, like when you go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep in the middle of the ocean, there ain't shit out there.
theo von
Nothing's out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like the desert.
theo von
Oh, yeah, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
It's like the wet desert.
joe rogan
I think that's true.
Google that.
The majority of fish are 200 miles from shore.
I'm pretty sure that's true.
theo von
I'm trying to think if I've seen a fish way out there before.
joe rogan
Fuck those tiger sharks, though, right?
Fuck those things.
That's one of the ones that got the person when Duncan was staying there.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
Look, dude, I started snorkeling, and so finally I realized there wasn't even any fish there.
I was like, this is bad.
And the water would lift you up, and then it would set you down in a bunch of rocks.
And I'm like, this is real scary.
So I had to come back in, and I knew it was weird because the lifeguards were looking at me.
joe rogan
You're getting out there.
People get out there, man.
You watch them swim out there, and some dude from fucking Cleveland, can't blame him on the ocean.
And he's out there deep, deep, deep.
theo von
You can get jacked.
joe rogan
You can get jacked by a fucking ocean werewolf.
That tiger shark is an ocean werewolf.
And that thing just leaped out of the water and bit that dude's boat.
Fuck, man.
I mean, what did it think that was?
Like, people say, oh, it thought you were a seal.
That did not think that that was a seal.
That thing probably thought it was a boat.
There's a person on that boat, and I'd like to eat that person.
theo von
Well, nature's fucking probably getting pissed after all the shit that has been happening to Mother Nature.
That she's gonna send animals.
She's gonna send weather.
She's gonna send storms.
She's gonna send snow to try to kill that guy.
I believe that...
Mother Nature's gonna have a play in all of this.
joe rogan
Why does Mother Nature go after the Sackler family?
theo von
Hopefully she'll get to him.
joe rogan
How would she get to him, you think?
theo von
I don't know.
I fucking hate those people so much, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's evil.
theo von
I mean, it's evil, man.
joe rogan
They're just bawling, just eating caviar, driving around Rolls Royces.
theo von
But they don't have any feelings.
joe rogan
Well, I think what happens with people when they're a part of something really big, it's called a diffusion of responsibility because there's so many people there.
They say that if you're in a crowded area and someone gets jumped by someone, someone's beating that person up, you feel less likely.
You feel like you don't have anything to do with it.
You don't have to intervene.
Because so many other people there, they're not going to do it.
If you're not going to do it, they're not going to do it.
It's a diffusion of responsibility.
So many people.
But if it was just you and another person, that person was getting attacked, and they're like, help me, help me, you would feel compelled to help because it's only you.
I think when you're a part of an enormous corporation that has thousands of employees that's doing evil shit like the Sackler family, I think you just think you're a part of a thing.
And you think you could probably dismiss it by saying, well, for most people, this provides them the needed relief from pain.
And if used correctly, there's not an issue.
But it's an incredibly dangerous drug.
And it's an incredibly dangerous drug that's given out far too frequently, far too easily.
And I know this from my own personal experience.
I had my nose fixed.
I had a deviated septum.
And the guy fixed my nose, and he wakes me up after you go under.
And I have these things stuffed in my nose, my nostrils stuffed up, and he offers me two different painkillers.
theo von
Oh, dang.
joe rogan
He writes me a prescription for two different painkillers.
I go, well, how painful is this going to get?
And he goes, well, a lot of people find it very painful and a lot of discomfort, and this will help you.
And I go, but is it going to get more uncomfortable than right now?
And he's like, well, how do you feel right now?
I go, I feel fine.
Like, it's not, it's not even hurt.
And I'm like, okay.
He goes, well, I really think you should fill these.
Because otherwise, you know, if you need it, you're not going to have anything.
You're going to be miserable.
I'm like, okay.
So, uh, I didn't.
And I went home and I waited.
And I'm like, I don't feel bad at all.
Like, I feel fine.
And after a certain Amount of time you take the things out of your nose and they take they had stuck these plastic splints in my nose.
Oh, yeah, they remove all that stuff and I never took anything and I never felt pain But this guy had given me this stuff and he gave me two different ones like and he was a really good doctor It's not like he was a fucking quack if I decided to just start popping them I'd be like oh Hey man, I need it.
I got an operation.
theo von
I need it.
joe rogan
I bought a Corvette.
There was nothing wrong with me.
I was fine.
After the operation, after I woke up from the anesthesia, I mean, it didn't feel great, but it wasn't like, I'm in agony.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they're just giving me oxycodone.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm not even hurt.
It's not like, I need something.
Give me something for the pain.
I'm like, I'm in agony.
He was like, how do you feel?
I go, I feel pretty good.
Like, I wasn't being a tough guy.
I was like, there's nothing here.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like a mild discomfort.
And most of the discomfort was because my nose was stuffed with these sponges.
theo von
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And tubes, they give you like plastic straws that poke out of the bottom of your nose and it's dripping down onto the upper lip.
theo von
Yeah, pretty cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it wasn't that bad.
It was barely a problem.
theo von
Yeah.
Well, look, I think they just give them out.
And people now are so used to also, we're really comfortable just taking whatever's going to make us check out for a minute.
joe rogan
Yes.
That's the reality, right?
theo von
That's the reality.
joe rogan
That's the reality.
theo von
And that's what you have guys like, Ryan Holiday, did he come on here?
Yeah, we have guys that are taught that talk a lot about like that moment where you choose between what's comfortable yes, or what is easy and this other like more Long-term thing what is the long term and we've just gotten very used to taking that easy thing yeah, and it's just it's some of that is also just us getting acclimated to Technology and advancements and a lot of those things are good for us.
And so we're used to that, you know.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of people have a really hard time delaying gratitude.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is why they overeat, which is why they don't exercise, which is why they take pills.
They want it now.
theo von
Jerking off even.
joe rogan
Yeah?
theo von
The number one.
joe rogan
Is that your number one?
theo von
I mean, it has definitely for my twenties.
joe rogan
Do you try not to look at porn?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
How does that go?
theo von
I mean, it's gone better.
If I'm real honest with you.
unidentified
Have you fear?
theo von
I'll say this, though.
I do believe, and there's probably a lot of men, that if you lay on your back and masturbate...
Have you done this?
joe rogan
I like how you just pointed it out.
theo von
I don't know where you're going.
Where's it going?
If you lay on your back and jerk off with your legs in the air...
unidentified
You keep saying this!
theo von
Have you actually been doing...
unidentified
I don't know that I've done that.
theo von
I saw it.
Somebody drew it somewhere, and I saw it.
joe rogan
Someone drew it.
Like a diagram.
This is the gayest thing ever.
theo von
I'm just saying.
unidentified
Something about feet up in the air, whack it off.
theo von
You guys need to get your lives together.
joe rogan
Yeah, we do.
I'm learning from you.
Please, tell me more.
theo von
You guys have changed a lot.
I'm just saying, if we could decipher the wind, we would figure all this out.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Maybe it's the Earth itself is trying to give us messages.
jamie vernon
I got a video for you guys.
joe rogan
What's this?
What is Biden doing?
He fell down again?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is this today?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, I can't.
I can't anymore.
theo von
Well, here's the sad thing, man.
And I say this because look my dad was 70 when I was born.
My dad was an old man.
So I grew up around a lot of like environments where sometimes people would take advantage of my dad because he was old.
joe rogan
But he just fell.
He didn't even fall for a reason.
theo von
Right, but it's just not fair.
Like at a certain point you can't...
It's not cool to old people to do that to them.
joe rogan
No.
theo von
Like he doesn't know this is happening to him.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he kind of does and he's kind of a cunt.
theo von
Well, that could be true.
But he doesn't know.
joe rogan
He's always been a cunt, though.
If you go back and listen to that guy lying about his education record and lying about his accomplishments, he's always been a problem.
theo von
Yeah, politician.
It's a fucking...
joe rogan
And also all the fucking stuff with his son and the ties to Ukraine and China and the money, the family, they got paid millions of dollars, and everyone's trying to obscure it because, well, it's better than Trump, better than Trump.
If that guy was a Republican, they would be up his ass with a microscope.
theo von
I know, it is unbelievable.
joe rogan
But he represents what they thought was Like a sane alternative to what President Trump was.
They thought, this is insane.
Donald Trump is the president?
Fuck that.
Anything's better than him.
And so they went with this corrupt career politician.
I mean, it's wild stuff, man.
They even got the FBI involved in telling Twitter to censor the information about the laptop.
unidentified
It's crazy.
Crazy.
theo von
But how do we get out of that space?
How do we...
Because we're starting to turn into one of those kind of like Central American countries where the government is so...
Like, it's crazy.
It used to be a long time ago, like, if the secrets of our country got out, like, during Watergate or whatever, right?
People were like...
Fuck no.
But now, if the secrets get out, people are like, fuck yes, tell us what's going.
You know what I'm saying?
It's interesting how that's kind of changed.
Before, it would be like, if any top secret documents or whatever were released, it would seem like wrong.
But now, if they're released, we want to know what it is.
Does that make any sense?
joe rogan
Well, when was top secret documents released that are showing that someone is behaving in an illegal way where it's bad?
I mean, Watergate.
That was what Watergate was all about.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
They found out that Nixon was spying.
I mean, I think the problem is that, first of all, the media is overwhelmingly left-leaning.
And if you have a left-leaning politician or a left-wing Democratic politician, and then you have this media that essentially works to support that person, I mean, they ignore any information that leads to distrust in the government or distrust in this administration or distrust in this party, this political party.
theo von
Yeah.
It's the dark arts, man.
joe rogan
It is the dark arts.
That's the real dark arts.
theo von
It really is.
And you know what?
I think one thing that we need, I think, would be nice.
I wish there was an app, right?
And everybody has an app idea.
But I wish there was an app where when you went to a business, you could tell where they put their political money, right?
So then it would start to affect the bottom lines of companies.
So then those companies would stop Because I think you have to get busy.
joe rogan
Well, a little of that's going on right now with all the woke shit.
Like, Target lost billions of dollars because they tried to have this pride selection.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
Gay mannequins.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they had all these, like, pride children's shirts.
unidentified
Yeah.
theo von
Gay children.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Sorry.
And then, obviously, the Bud Light thing with Dylan Mulvaney.
They've lost 20-plus billion dollars.
You imagine you're just going to send a fucking can to some confused person.
Day 365 of womanhood!
And you send that person a fucking can with their face on, and your company loses $20 billion.
That is wild shit, man.
So we're seeing that now, where we never saw that before.
Where people are going, enough!
Enough!
Stop shoving this down everybody's throat.
When I go to Target, I don't want to see, like...
Fucking tuck pants.
They're designed to help you tuck your dick.
Like, hey, that's not normal.
I don't want that right in front of everybody.
theo von
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't want to see a diaper for a baby where they can hide his dick under him or whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think they have those.
theo von
But they will soon.
joe rogan
Yeah, they might.
But there's a lot of just fucking real weirdness with this group of people that is trying to, like, change the way people view sexuality and gender and all these different...
It's like they're proselytizing.
It's not as simple as they're...
theo von
You would stop that at the...
I think you would stop that.
Say if they had an application where I could say, okay, I'm gonna go buy coffee, I'm gonna go buy a hat, I'm gonna buy a corset, whatever I want to get.
And I can look on this app first.
joe rogan
I'm just picturing you with a cup of coffee, a hat, and a corset.
unidentified
Yeah, I do.
theo von
Whatever, dude.
You gotta fucking look out for yourself, dude.
joe rogan
I'm picturing you buck naked with a corset on, drinking a cup of coffee with a hat on.
theo von
I'm fully clothed, bro.
joe rogan
Jerking off with your feet in the air.
unidentified
Hey, bro.
Hey, dude.
joe rogan
You've changed.
No, bro.
theo von
You've fucking changed, bro.
You got the fucking wrong idea, dude.
What's in these?
joe rogan
A lot.
Take a snip of that.
Get yourself right.
theo von
Take a snip.
But if there was an app, though, that's what I want.
An app where I say, if I support this company, right, with my money, what does that company support?
Because then I think you're going to get...
Lot of people are gonna be able to support at least put their money Where their beliefs are I think there's a thing like that.
joe rogan
There's like a there's an app there's a right shows like America like supported America apps But you need an even one you need one that's like buffer both you need one that's down the middle You know well this there's a lot of companies now that are like really emphasizing American made Yeah.
I wonder if these smell-and-salts are American-made.
unidentified
Woof!
joe rogan
I'm a part of a company called Origin, and Origin produces...
They make everything in America.
Everything they make, except for one or two items that they...
They're very transparent about it.
Some of the parts of the sole of the boots that they make, these handmade boots, are made in South America.
But everything else, all the fabric, all the thread, all the workers, all the machines, everything is made in America.
They make hunting gear.
They make these great stretchy jeans.
They make great handmade boots, like real high quality stuff.
They make jujitsu geese.
Origin.
Check out Origin.
They're the shit.
It's all American made.
Jocko's a big part of it.
He's the one who brought me in on the company.
theo von
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Cam Haynes is a part of the company now, too.
It's just the first American-made hunting apparel company.
Because even though hunting is like this great American pastime, a lot of the clothing that they're making is made from China.
A lot of the textiles, a lot of the stuff is made from China.
theo von
I went turkey hunting.
joe rogan
I saw!
theo von
Since I saw you last, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, who did you go with?
theo von
This guy, Michael Waddell.
joe rogan
That's right, Michael Waddell.
Michael Waddell's a legend.
Yeah, he knows his shit, man.
He's a fun dude.
theo von
Oh, he's a really fun guy.
joe rogan
He was great on the Meat Eater podcast with Steven Rinella.
theo von
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was great.
theo von
He's very entertaining to be around.
joe rogan
Very entertaining.
theo von
Yeah, me and this guy, Caleb Presley, went and we were just...
Everybody's chasing those gobblers.
That's what they call them.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you get one?
theo von
No.
Well, what happened was we saw him, right?
We waited two mornings.
We didn't get one.
Then we're leaving, right?
We're driving out and they're all like...
The game's over.
The hunt's over, right?
You see some turkeys by the side of the road, and they were just, like, they were, like, in the locker room after the game.
Like, it's over, right?
One of them has a towel on his neck.
One of them's fucking texting his wife, right?
Like, they're fucking chilling, you know?
joe rogan
This is you sneaking up on them?
theo von
No, this is my buddy Caleb shot one.
joe rogan
Okay, so you didn't wind up getting one.
So tell me what happened with the the ones that were on the side of the road.
theo von
Yeah, they snuck up on them right here, dude.
I mean, they're having lunch, like it was over.
joe rogan
Oh, so these are the ones that were on the side of the road.
theo von
Yeah, they fucking snuck up on some that were in the locker room, bro.
The game was over and fucking killed one of them.
joe rogan
Well, that's how it goes.
The game is always on.
As long as the season's open, the game is on.
theo von
And that's what I guess I realized.
joe rogan
Every now and then, you catch one slipping.
theo von
Oh, they took this turkey.
I mean, its whole head disappeared.
joe rogan
Turkey hunting is like elk hunting in the way where you're trying to get them closer to you.
You're calling them in.
That's why people, one of the things that people like about it.
It's so exciting.
And the turkey's like, is that pussy?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do I hear pussy?
Like they have these turkey decoys and they set these turkey decoys up.
theo von
They wouldn't let me hold the gun either.
joe rogan
They wouldn't.
Why not?
theo von
They said it was some issue.
joe rogan
What was the issue?
theo von
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
We should take you hog hunting.
unidentified
Ooh.
theo von
I want to do it where you get to do it with actual hands-on.
joe rogan
You want to do that?
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know they use dogs with that.
theo von
That's fine.
joe rogan
The dogs hold the pig down and you want up and stab it.
I'm so not interested in that.
I've been offered to do that too.
theo von
If we pray first, I would do it.
joe rogan
Why would that help?
theo von
Just to fucking make it even, you know?
I just want to at least let God know what I'm doing.
joe rogan
I think God knows what you're doing.
You're out there killing pigs.
theo von
Stop.
joe rogan
But pigs are one of the best animals to hunt because they are absolutely an invasive species that has to be controlled.
theo von
And I don't like pigs, I'll say that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I kind of like them.
I like them when they're domesticated, but that's not a real pig.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, pigs are a weird animal, man.
If you let them go, like, you take a domesticated pig and you let it go, within six weeks they start to transform.
Their snout extends, their hair changes, it gets bigger and bushier, their tusks grow.
theo von
Like werewolves.
joe rogan
Yeah, like a wild pig that you see is essentially a domestic pig that got wild.
They're the same animal.
That's what's crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You know, there's different versions of them, but that's the same animal.
theo von
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all called Susgraffa.
It's the same genus.
theo von
That's the whole group called Susgraffa?
joe rogan
Yeah.
theo von
I would love to have some real wild fucking bacon.
Do they have boar bacon?
joe rogan
It's not...
It's hard to get bacon off of a wild pig because they're not as fat.
But agriculture pigs, like pigs that steal from farms, you can get bacon off of them.
Because, you know, they're eating people's crops and fattening up.
Some of them are fat as fuck.
Acorns, sometimes you get...
I shot one that had eaten a lot of acorns.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there was like an acorny smell to the fat.
Oh my God, they're delicious.
Me and John Dudley...
We went pig hunting in Tahon Ranch.
I shot this pig and we cooked it on the Traeger.
Oh my god, it was sensational.
It was so good.
theo von
That sounds good.
joe rogan
We slow smoked it on the Traeger.
Oh, it was a fall off the bone.
It was delicious.
God, I fucking want- It was so good.
I love some- Fatty and moist and delicious.
theo von
I love that.
joe rogan
But you gotta cook pigs to a high temperature to avoid trichinosis, especially wild pigs.
theo von
Really?
And what is trichinosis?
It has what, spiders?
joe rogan
No, trichinosis is like a parasite.
And most, it's really weird, but I think 90% of the cases of trichinosis in North America are from bear, from people eating bear.
Because they just don't cook it enough.
You have to cook bear like you cook bacon.
You've got to cook it all the way.
And when you get store-bought bacon, or store-bought ham even, you don't have to cook it as much as they used to make you cook it.
Because these animals never come in contact with trichinosis.
Because they're not free-range animals.
theo von
Yeah, they're just hiding in basically a little farm or something.
joe rogan
They get it from eating animals that have it.
So if you get trichinosis, you keep trichinosis for your whole life.
And if you died and somebody ate you, they would get trichinosis.
They didn't cook you.
theo von
What if you have a child, can you transfer it through DNA? That's a good question.
joe rogan
I don't know the answer.
theo von
Checkmate.
joe rogan
You got me.
Should we end with that?
We gotta get out of here.
theo von
Yeah, let's end, man.
joe rogan
My man.
theo von
Thank you, man.
Thank you for...
joe rogan
My brother, it's always a pleasure to hang with you.
theo von
Yeah.
joe rogan
Always good to see you.
theo von
I had a great time, and congratulations on your club.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Thanks for being there, man.
It was fun.
Fun to watch you murder last night.
It was a good time.
unidentified
So cool.
theo von
I'll be around for the next few weeks, man.
joe rogan
Let's go, Theo Vaughn.
Let's go.
unidentified
All right.
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