Feb. 9, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan podcast, check it out The Joe Rogan experience Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day It's good to be here bro Good to see you, my friend. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| We're up and at him. | ||
| What's going on, man? | ||
| Chilling, man. | ||
| Working hard, as always. | ||
| Escape from L.A. Escape from L.A., man. | ||
| You know, every time we go on tour, that's what I look at it like. | ||
| Any shows, alright, we're getting away for a little bit. | ||
| Just take a breather. | ||
| Alyssa, I hope L.A. comes back. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I hope it... | ||
| Re-emerges is what it used to be or better. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I believe it it can too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it possibly might man, but it it's gonna take a minute before We get the right people in there. | ||
| I know running the spot. | ||
| Who are the right people though? | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| That's that's hard to say right cuz I mean It's it's just hard to trust any politician these days man I mean, my friends have hit me up like, hey, when are you gonna run for mayor? | ||
| I'm like, I'm better running for mayor. | ||
| Are you crazy? | ||
| Bro, you would win. | ||
| I probably would. | ||
| Oh my god, you would win. | ||
| That would be the curse of me, right? | ||
| It would be the curse, bro. | ||
| They would go digging deep into your past. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, they'd find a bunch of liars, distort a bunch of facts, come up with a narrative. | ||
| As much of an open book as I've been, you know, and open about everything I've done, yeah, they'll always dig deeper to try to find more, especially when you're in that kind of spot, you know? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Also, if you're an open book, they'll still rewrite your chapters. | ||
| They'll rewrite the chapters. | ||
| They'll go in there and go, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Let's change this around and make it a lot worse than it really was. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's a dirty game. | ||
| Who fucking wants to? | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Who wants to do that? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The people that want to do that job these days, they're not there to do any work of what politicians are supposed to do. | ||
| They're trying to get famous. | ||
| They want to be famous for something because now it's a seat to be famous in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then it's a shame because people that would actually maybe do the work, they don't even got a chance to get in there because they don't want to be famous. | ||
| They're trying to get in there to do the work. | ||
| While others like, you know, they're like, I got this seat. | ||
| I'm showboating this shit. | ||
| Oh, you know, this whole run. | ||
| I didn't worry about it at all before COVID. I'm like, who gives a fuck who the mayor is? | ||
| It runs. | ||
| LA runs. | ||
| They figure it out. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's chaotic. | ||
| There's a lot of people, but it works. | ||
| Now I'm like, oh my God, that shit's important. | ||
| It's so important. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Who the governor is, who the mayor is, that shit is super important. | ||
| You know, when you're young, you don't pay attention to any of that stuff. | ||
| You're just sort of living, going, trying to make your way. | ||
| As you get older, you start paying attention to the world and the news. | ||
| You're like, hey, wait a minute. | ||
| Yeah, once you have children and once you buy property, you're like, hey. | ||
| And you're paying taxes. | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| They keep jacking up the taxes in California. | ||
| The tents keep stacking up. | ||
| I have hope. | ||
| I have hope. | ||
| I root for them. | ||
| I hope this new mayor, I hope she nails it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hopefully she does something about it. | ||
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Hopefully. | |
| But it does cost a lot to live in California these days. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It would be great if it went to a good thing. | ||
| It cost a lot, but everyone was taken care of. | ||
| They dealt with the homeless situation. | ||
| They dealt with the crime. | ||
| They dealt with the poverty. | ||
| They dealt with all the bullshit. | ||
| But that doesn't seem to be the case. | ||
| It's not it. | ||
| So cannabis, we know, generates California a huge amount of capital, right? | ||
| And where did it go? | ||
| Where does it go? | ||
| Where does it go? | ||
| They don't ever tell you where it goes, but I could tell you there's a bridge up there on 6th Street Had to get the money from somewhere, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, cannabis, I mean, what is the amount that cannabis is generating for California? | ||
| It's gotta be enormous. | ||
| Yeah, it was for a time. | ||
| For a time? | ||
| It's not anymore? | ||
| It goes up and down. | ||
| You know, in the pandemic, oddly enough, people had a lot of money to spend because of the checks and stuff like that. | ||
| But now the checks have run out and they got less money to spend. | ||
| So, you know, it's always a roller coaster ride as it relates to what sales will be. | ||
| There it is right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Marijuana tax revenue, $1,294,632,799. | ||
| I believe we're the highest taxed state as it relates to cannabis, and it's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, look at the difference between Colorado, which also has a lot of weed, only $423 million. | ||
| Yeah, they gouge us, man. | ||
| I mean, we saved, well, the industry saved the state. | ||
| I mean, you know, you lived there for many years now. | ||
| And California was in debt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We had no surplus. | ||
| Now we got surplus. | ||
| We could build bridges that are multi-million dollar bridges. | ||
| I had Mariana Von Zeller on the podcast from that television show, Trafficked. | ||
| I don't know if you've seen that show. | ||
| It's a great show on the National Geographic. | ||
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Yes, it's crazy. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| She's boots on the ground journalist. | ||
| She goes into the jungle where the cocaine manufacturers are. | ||
| She went to the Congo for dealing with people that are trafficking in the great apes. | ||
| Wild show. | ||
| Wild shit. | ||
| But she was talking about one of the problems with California is it's so difficult to get a license to sell weed regularly that illegal sales of weed are up way more than regular. | ||
| So they're not getting taxed on that because they made it difficult for people. | ||
| Yeah, the people that operate legally are the ones getting tapped the hardest because you got to pay for all these regulations and all these fees and the taxation, whether you're in the cultivation aspect of it or you're the retail, manufacturer, distribution, any of it, man. | ||
| I mean, it's the taxation to operate is high and the taxes on the consumer as well. | ||
| So when you have that factored in and you got these guys that are trapping, as they call it, right? | ||
| Black market style. | ||
| Yeah, they're making all the money and the state isn't really doing anything about that. | ||
| And they make it hard to get a license for people who might actually be able to navigate that. | ||
| The business, but it's just so many hoops you gotta jump through, man. | ||
| So much regulation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's unfortunate, but at least it's legal now. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, I remember in 2016, when it became legal, we were in the middle of a podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're doing the End of the World podcast during the election, live at the Comedy Store, and then it came out that marijuana passed, and it's legal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And everybody cheered. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| The whole place went, yeah! | ||
| But this is crazy that legally, like federally, it's illegal. | ||
| It's still schedule one. | ||
| You know, what's crazy is that more states are rolling over, like, you know, because the federal government is leaving it up to the state to decide, right? | ||
| And some states are seeing what's happening in places like Colorado, where the taxation ain't so high, and they are actually making a lot of money, or the state is making a lot of money through cannabis. | ||
| They're starting to consider it, right? | ||
| So you're seeing states roll over one at a time, like New York. | ||
| For instance, we thought that should have been like way sooner. | ||
| But we thought, okay, when New York rolls, and let's just say Florida and Boston roll, everywhere else will roll over slowly. | ||
| And that's kind of what's happening. | ||
| So, I mean, I think it's just a matter of time, man, where we will have it federally legal, but we're going to all pay the price until... | ||
| Yeah, then mushrooms. | ||
| Then mushrooms. | ||
| Mushrooms gotta make its way through. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| They gotta make it. | ||
| You know, what's crazy is the studies that they've been coming up with as of late, like how they've been using microdose and moderate dose to treat people with depression and anxiety and all the other business, you know what I mean? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Some therapists are talking about how they're actually using microdoses to help people. | ||
| Let's just say that they had some sort of ailment, like migraines, for instance. | ||
| They say that they can disconnect whatever that is and rewire whatever it is causing the migraines to stop them. | ||
| Yeah, we're the worst dudes to be talking about neurochemistry. | ||
| Yeah, we are. | ||
| Yeah, rewire. | ||
| Yeah, I mean supposedly psilocybin rather is one of the very best things for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For curing addictions and people that are dealing with like real serious problems with PTSD and people that are dying and have massive anxiety. | ||
| It alleviates end-of-life anxiety for them. | ||
| Yes, people with anger issues, too. | ||
| I mean, you know, people that pop off for any given reason, man. | ||
| You give them some micro doses and they're the nicest people in the world. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's for sure a factor with cannabis, too, man. | ||
| I mean, cannabis makes people so much friendlier. | ||
| I think it puts you in a relaxed state, whether you choose it or not. | ||
| I've stood out of a lot of altercations being as high as I am, because somebody might throw an insult here and there, and I may not even be paying attention to them. | ||
| Whereas if I'm not, I'm totally paying attention to that. | ||
| And it escalates. | ||
| And it's going to escalate. | ||
| Yeah, which is the worst. | ||
| Because a lot of us that are high-strung without it, man, it sort of grounds us out in a good way. | ||
| Exercise and weed is a great combination for being a peaceful, kind person. | ||
| Absolutely, and good health. | ||
| Yeah, and good health. | ||
| Because weed keeps you young, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I gotta tell you. | ||
| Well, it definitely keeps you relaxed, which can help you stay young. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At least give you a young mindset. | ||
| Yeah, the stresses of life can age you. | ||
| Yeah, just concentrate on the petty bullshit. | ||
| It's just not worth it, man. | ||
| It's not worth it. | ||
| Yeah, you know like we used to do mushrooms a lot and I told that I told a couple of stories when I was on the last time I was here But you know that it used to be a part of our our journey man like we'd get on stage Mushrooms and like just go on the ride. | ||
| Yeah After a while, I couldn't do it anymore. | ||
| I couldn't be on stage and be totally in the melt, we call it, where it's above micro, it's above moderate, like you're a full melt, as they say. | ||
| And it was harder for me to be in front of people differently. | ||
| Because I had these issues deeply rooted that I was angry about, and every time I got to that place, that's what I'd focus on. | ||
| And I didn't want to feel that ugliness, so I waited until I got over whatever that issue was. | ||
| And then I started, you know, slowly doing mushrooms again, micro dosing first and then moderate. | ||
| And I started feeling good about it again. | ||
| And I realized how much, you know, it actually helped me push away from whatever that issue was when I did it the first time. | ||
| Yeah, just something you were focusing on, right? | ||
| Yeah, I was just needed to work out. | ||
| Yeah, I often say, if you're going to try mushrooms beyond micro, try to deal with whatever issues you got before you go in and have a friend there to help you, to be in the world there with you, you know? | ||
| That's what everybody used to use, a sitter. | ||
| That was always the big thing. | ||
| If you did mushrooms, you should have a sitter. | ||
| In the best case scenario, you would have qualified professionals that would assist in psychedelic therapy, which is what happens for a lot of people. | ||
| I know people that have done that in other states where it's legal or illegal. | ||
| And where it's legal, I mean, it's amazing. | ||
| You can go to a place and someone who understands the experience and knows what to do can help you through it. | ||
| And I know people that have made some big breakthroughs in their life and just really just sort of reassessed how they interface with the world because of that. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I mean, if you could find something that would help you get past whatever is, you know, holding you back or troubling you, weighing you down, man, I mean, better than taking any of these over-the-counter drugs for that that might suppress those feelings or thoughts than have you deal with them and get past them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that kind of thinking is why it's going to stay illegal. | ||
| Because there's a lot of money to be lost with marijuana and psilocybin and all these things becoming legal. | ||
| There's a lot of shit that people are taking that might not be necessary and might have some unintended side effects and consequences. | ||
| That you don't get with natural remedies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like they say, there's no money in the cure. | ||
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| There should be. | ||
| There should be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But for them, there isn't. | ||
| It's such a problem when people can make a lot of money off of something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As soon as they find a thing they can sell you that they can make a lot of money off, they want to keep selling to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No matter what. | ||
| And then you have other companies that do the knockoff versions of what they do to sell more of it to you. | ||
| It's just, you know, I've been paying a lot of attention over the years about the opiate crisis and the pill problem. | ||
| That's something we talked about with Mariana Van Zeller, too, because when I first met her, I had her on because she did this thing called the Oxycontin Express. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where she explained the pill mills in Florida and how people would buy the Oxys and bring them up the highway to Kentucky and all these places and people with horrible addictions and horrible overdose stories and it was all coming from Florida. | ||
| And there was no database. | ||
| So you could have a back. | ||
| Ah, my back hurts. | ||
| You go to this place. | ||
| They go, oh, you need OxyContin. | ||
| And literally you go right next door at the same building. | ||
| And that's where they give you the Oxy. | ||
| And that's all they prescribe. | ||
| And they don't have a database. | ||
| So then you go down the street to another doctor because these pain management clinics were everywhere. | ||
| That seems like it's a thing in Florida. | ||
| It was. | ||
| It was a thing in Florida. | ||
| They cleaned it up. | ||
| I mean, they had this show called Claws, right? | ||
| That old girl that did Reno 911, Nietzsche Nash, right? | ||
| She starred in this TV show called Claws. | ||
| And it's her and a group of women, you know, trying to come up in a salon, like, you know, make the best salon. | ||
| But the other way that they're making money is, you know, through the pills and through one of these type of... | ||
| One of these type of clinics. | ||
| And it's basically showing you the game on how people are doing in Florida, how these folks, this is like a thing out there. | ||
| The pain management clinics and all that stuff with the Oxycontin, all that stuff. | ||
| What trips me out is that this fentanyl thing, right? | ||
| People know about it. | ||
| It's been out there, yet they'll still challenge themselves and try to party like... | ||
| Like, the shit ain't present. | ||
| It's like the gamble they're taking with that. | ||
| It just blows my mind. | ||
| I think that hard drug addiction is a different thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really think it's a different thing. | ||
| I haven't experienced it, but I have friends that have, and they get scared like they got captured by a demon. | ||
| And when they get clean, they don't want to fuck around with nothing. | ||
| They're like, dude, you don't understand. | ||
| I got captured by a demon. | ||
| If you wonder when people talk about demonic possession, that was always a thing back in the day. | ||
| Before, people really had an understanding of human psychology and myths and lures and what people are terrified of. | ||
| Demonic possession was a real thing. | ||
| But if you think about what happens to someone when they get really hooked on meth, I mean, how much different is that than being captured by a demon? | ||
| You're captured by a chemical demon that's ruining your life, wants you to get in a fistfight with cops, wants you to drive with no fucking tires. | ||
| Wild shit. | ||
| It's a chemical demon. | ||
| It does possess you. | ||
| I mean, like, look, when people were doing the PCP thing back in the day, right? | ||
| You know, back in Southgate, when Sen and I were, like, you know, younger before, we were, you know, while we were in demo stages, right? | ||
| Doing our demos and stuff like that. | ||
| We'd, you know, trek around the city, you know, like go to parties and stuff like that. | ||
| House parties, if you will. | ||
| And every now and then, Because we were broke-ass bastards. | ||
| We didn't always have cars. | ||
| We'd be walking to the parties and stuff like that from Cyprus or whatever. | ||
| And every now and then, you would come across a couple of gangsters that were PCP'd out. | ||
| And these dudes, I mean, if you got into some shit with them, you were dealing with someone who didn't know their strength and their abilities at that point. | ||
| Yeah, they would break handcuffs. | ||
| Yeah, they would break handcuffs. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| Did people really break handcuffs on PCP or is that one of those myths? | ||
| Because I had always heard that people did that. | ||
| They could definitely break windows like nothing. | ||
| They do wild shit. | ||
| They do wild shit. | ||
| So there was this kid in Southgate. | ||
| He was a gangbanger. | ||
| And a lot of other people in the area, they don't want to fuck with him because him and his brother were kind of crazy, right? | ||
| And they had, like, reputations. | ||
| And there was another contingency of gangsters that wanted to get at him, right? | ||
| So this guy was sitting on his porch one day by himself. | ||
| His brothers and the rest of his guys were not there with him. | ||
| He was outside of his mother's house chilling. | ||
| And these dudes roll up on him with a shotgun, and they blast him. | ||
| They, you know, buck-shotted him, you know, in his stomach, all that. | ||
| And they take off. | ||
| They leave him there for dead. | ||
| That's what was the intention, right? | ||
| And this dude was on PCP at the time. | ||
| They did not know he was on PCP. Nobody knew until the paramedics came, got him. | ||
| And that's what, oddly enough, is what saved him, is that he didn't go into shock. | ||
| He was just like, whoa. | ||
| You know, like, so slowed down and possessed by the PCP or whatever the hell he was on. | ||
| And he lived through that, you know? | ||
| And it wasn't like, it was a short distance that they blasted him with all them buckshots out. | ||
| I mean, it had to be painful, but he didn't feel a goddamn thing, apparently. | ||
| And he felt it the next day, obviously. | ||
| But he lived through that while he was on the PCP. And that's crazy. | ||
| Is it good for you? | ||
| Well, because it's not a big conspiracy, PCP. Well, I would say that had he not been on it, he would have went into shock and sure enough died right there on that porch. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Imagine if that becomes a thing. | ||
| Like it turns out to be true that if you're on PCP when you get wounded, you're more likely to survive. | ||
| That would be crazy. | ||
| What is that elevated state? | ||
| Isn't PCP, isn't it related to ketamine in some way? | ||
| Didn't someone say that on the podcast and it freaked us out? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's really related, like real close to ketamine or something. | ||
| Some guys used to smoke, like dip their joints or cigarettes in embalming. | ||
| Sherm. | ||
| Yeah, Sherm. | ||
| That was another zombie deal right there. | ||
| Ketamine and phenylside, PCP study, yeah. | ||
| Ketamine and fensi... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Slydine. | ||
| If I was a fucking scientist, I'd be so mad at this podcast. | ||
| Yeah, he was either on... | ||
| Fensiclidine. | ||
| Yeah, he was either on PCP or SHRM. One of the two. | ||
| It says are N-methyl-D-aspir receptor antagonists and disassociate anesthetics that can cause intoxication, sometimes confusion. | ||
| So it seems like it's similar? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that what they're saying, Jamie? | ||
| If not... | ||
| They're both in the same family? | ||
| Ketamine story begins with a drug called PCP. Yes, that PCP. So maybe it's like the proper form of it made in a lab. | ||
| So I had a boxing coach back in Boston, and he was a savage. | ||
| This dude was a longshoreman. | ||
| I don't want to say his name because I want to tell the whole story. | ||
| But he was a wild dude, especially when he was young. | ||
| And he was a really good boxer. | ||
| And he got in a street fight and got his fucking finger bitten off. | ||
| So his index finger on his right hand was missing, and he had it replaced with his fucking toe. | ||
| This is how gangster this dude was. | ||
| He had his toe removed. | ||
| Not the big toe, but the second one. | ||
| And the toe was his new finger, and he had it curved so he could throw right hooks. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So when you shook his hand, you always got a curved finger, because this finger was immobile. | ||
| It could just kind of clamp down, but he could still throw punches. | ||
| He had it curved so he could make a fist. | ||
| They're like, we can leave it open, and he's like, no, no, no, fuck that. | ||
| I want to be able to crack people. | ||
| So his toe is his right finger, and he goes, I don't even remember what happened. | ||
| He was on PCP, and he got his finger bitten off in a street fight. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| And I'm like, what is PCP like? | ||
| He's like... | ||
| To the moon. | ||
| It ain't nothing like we experience with this weed. | ||
| I'm not fucking even thinking about trying that, whatever that is. | ||
| I don't want it, man. | ||
| But if ketamine's like next door neighbors to that, that's what's crazy because I know a lot of people did ketamine and they did sensory deprivation tanks on ketamine. | ||
| That was what John Lilly used to do, apparently. | ||
| And what'd that do for him? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| The way I've heard about ketamine is, you know, it's only a bunch of different descriptions, but people say, like, you can do, they can do IV-assisted ketamine for depression, and Neil Brennan did it, you know, Neil Brennan, the comedian. | ||
| Neil, who's a hilarious and interesting dude, so he's the perfect guy to, like, he can describe this, and he's trying to figure out what's wrong with him, why is he depressed. | ||
| So he tries his ketamine therapy. | ||
| He's like, oh, it'll probably be something where you lay there and you get a little dose of this and you relax or something. | ||
| You're like, no. | ||
| He goes, I was tripping my fucking balls off. | ||
| I go, really? | ||
| And I forget his description of it, but I remember Terrence McKenna's. | ||
| He said, it's like you're in an alien office building, but there's no one in the office building. | ||
| You're wandering around. | ||
| But I've heard a bunch of different, weirder, even more strange descriptions of people that go into K-holes. | ||
| A couple interesting things to read in here. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Well, it's very similar to PCP, but it's got a lot... | ||
| When it was chemically synthesized in the 60s, they took out the convulsion and seizure stuff that would happen to people. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
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Jesus Christ! | |
| That's great! | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
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Oh my God! | |
| But here at the bottom, it says that it's a sedative. | ||
| In fact, it was given to that boy's soccer team that was trapped in a cave in Thailand. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| So they would be easier to move. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| Oh my God, that's so insane. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So they're pretty much loose. | ||
| Yeah, they put them on ketamine to get them through the tunnel. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Wow, that so makes sense though. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine because if you got like any issues about, you know, like you're claustrophobic. | ||
| If those kids panicked and freaked out while they were swimming them through. | ||
| Yeah, stuck. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Done. | ||
| There's an article I found from 1991 LA Times that's describing some myths about PCP. What's the big myth? | ||
| Does it have anything about handcuff breaking? | ||
| I always heard that dudes can break handcuffs, right? | ||
| You always heard that, right? | ||
| There's a lot of anecdotes for sure of them saying that they would break their bones and do things that they wouldn't feel because it was such a powerful anesthetic that they wouldn't feel shit until it wore off. | ||
| Yeah, you're numb, basically. | ||
| But this also says that there's myths that were created to change that apparently those myths were used to change some laws. | ||
| Like, for instance, cocaine, it says a myth that made blacks most unaffected by cocaine... | ||
| Cocaine made blacks unaffected by.32 caliber bullets is said to have caused Southern police departments to switch to.38 caliber revolvers. | ||
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What? | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| And so there's this thing about PCP that says if people believe that it would make them... | ||
| They believe the public will go along with use of any force to make the claim that the person was under the influence of PCP. That it's so dangerous that any means to subdue. | ||
| Yeah, any means to subdue. | ||
| Isn't it interesting that they decide what caliber you should be able to kill people with? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, this ain't big enough. | ||
| We need to go bigger. | ||
| It's almost like they're saying, give someone a chance to just get wounded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You might just get wounded. | ||
| Yeah, but they're shooting at you. | ||
| What's crazy is that they're saying that this drug makes them not necessarily superhuman, but not as vulnerable. | ||
| Not as vulnerable. | ||
| And it is true to a degree. | ||
| I would imagine if you're hopped up on meth, you'd probably be really hard to take down. | ||
| You'd just be like a wild animal, like a wild cat. | ||
| Yeah, it would take... | ||
| Yeah, you're ripping your body apart, resisting. | ||
| You don't even realize the limitations of your tissue. | ||
| You're just ripping your knees apart and just fucking going crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you don't give a shit. | ||
| So when we were spending a lot of time in Southgate before, we eventually start touring and moving around and being a part of the industry more than being in the streets, right? | ||
| Just before that, we used to hang out at this spot In Southgate, at this jack-in-the-box. | ||
| Like, for some reason, everybody went there. | ||
| And it was on Firestone in California. | ||
| And City Hall is just down the street, and Southgate Police Department is just right there. | ||
| And we just happened to be there on this day where they were trying to take down this, like, dude that was, like, probably, like, 6263 Kenny Loggins-looking motherfucker, you know, scraggly beard. | ||
| He's got his shirt off, no shoes. | ||
| He's just in his jeans. | ||
| And there's like 10 Southgate police officers trying to subdue this guy. | ||
| And they could just not. | ||
| They had to call like five or six more. | ||
| And they put him in the back of the police car. | ||
| And with his bare feet, he kicks out the window. | ||
| And they're like, they are really dealing with this guy. | ||
| This dude was huge. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, he had to have been on something. | ||
| Because he wasn't very big, big. | ||
| He was tall, but he was kind of lanky. | ||
| But man, he was tossing those dudes around like nothing. | ||
| Well, there's some dudes that are just genetically freak-strong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like our buddy Jeff out there. | ||
| Jeff doesn't even work out, and there's this grip thing that you grab, and he beats all of us. | ||
| Everybody works out every day. | ||
| He grabs his thing, it's like... | ||
| Got that inner strength. | ||
| Just got natural strength. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some people just have better genes than us. | ||
| Yeah, and imagine that guy on PCP. Oh, my goodness. | ||
| You're not gonna hold him down? | ||
| He's barefoot, and he looks like Kenny Loggins. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's got some country strength. | ||
| He's got country strength, bro. | ||
| For real. | ||
| Bro, those guys that work on farms, that is 100% legit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you think about hay bales, that's just like doing kettlebells all day. | ||
| Well, look, they even suggested that this was like... | ||
| Hard shit when they made Rocky do it in Rocky IV. Exactly! | ||
| They made him do old school farm work and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You ain't fast anymore. | ||
| We gotta focus on your strength. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And all that shit takes strength. | ||
| It takes strength. | ||
| Build strength. | ||
| Yeah, farm people are probably the strongest fucking people on earth. | ||
| That's why they made such good wrestlers. | ||
| They're very sturdy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, also, it's a huge thing up there. | ||
| Wrestling's like this long-standing tradition in the Midwest, but also, there's a lot of fucking farmers out there, and those kids are savages. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Imagine how they were doing those backyard matches in certain neighborhoods. | ||
| Imagine out there on the farm. | ||
| The matches they're throwing out there. | ||
| For sure that's happening right now. | ||
| To entertain themselves. | ||
| Do you know Joe Lozon, the MMA fighter? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Him and his brother used to have real fights in the backyard of a cookout. | ||
| Go to Joe Lozon versus Dan Lozon. | ||
| They beat the fuck out of each other in the backyard. | ||
| Like real brothers. | ||
| Full-on MMA fight at a pig cookout. | ||
| No beefing, just fighting. | ||
| Just fighting. | ||
| Fighting. | ||
| So look at this. | ||
| This is these crazy motherfuckers. | ||
| At a cookout. | ||
| They're at a fucking cookout. | ||
| So everyone's hanging around. | ||
| They're in their gym shorts in the front yard. | ||
| And they're gonna fight. | ||
| So this is no beef, all sport. | ||
| Just for sport. | ||
| This is just, we're gonna have a fight. | ||
| I mean, this is a full-on, 100% MMA fight. | ||
| Look, there's bricks behind them. | ||
| Look at the fucking... | ||
| Look at the bricks. | ||
| The landscaping bricks. | ||
| Where's mom? | ||
| Mom's cheering on. | ||
| Don't be a pussy. | ||
| Mom's cheering him on. | ||
| It's fucking amazing, because their friends are all just sitting around. | ||
| By the way, both of these guys, world-class MMA fighters. | ||
| Joe Lozon is an elite MMA fighter, and his brother was a fucking straight-up killer when he was young. | ||
| Yeah, these dudes have been around for a long time. | ||
| Yeah, so Dan and Joe just beating the shit out of each other in front of everybody. | ||
| Look at this! | ||
| This is crazy! | ||
| This is a 100% full-on fight. | ||
| He just hit him with a hard ground-and-pound right hand from the top. | ||
| If we didn't have beef beforehand, we'd have beef after. | ||
| Joe Lozon with a deep half sweep! | ||
| That's a beautiful sweep he just hit him with. | ||
| He hit him with a deep half. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Brothers. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| For no money. | ||
| This is no money. | ||
| He got the choke in. | ||
| I'd like to play the song from Henji and Ivo Lee, brothers. | ||
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| He got mad that he didn't let go when he tapped. | ||
| That is wild! | ||
| That is wild. | ||
| That's wild, man. | ||
| Joe's the older brother? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why he didn't let go. | ||
| But some guys that grow up with brothers are like the toughest dudes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they're always fighting. | ||
| They're fighting with their brothers all the time. | ||
| They're always fighting, yeah. | ||
| They're not worried about conflict. | ||
| They're ready to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They experience it constantly. | ||
| It's like being in prison. | ||
| Yeah, and what's crazy is if they get into a fight on the street with other guys, they're beating the shit out of those other guys. | ||
| They're so used to fighting. | ||
| But he can fuck with you the other way too, man. | ||
| I had a buddy of mine who had a brother who terrorized him. | ||
| His brother was just like super mean, beat the shit out of him. | ||
| Like, would physically beat him up all the time. | ||
| And he was bigger and older. | ||
| He was bullied. | ||
| Yeah, and this guy was like a good-looking guy. | ||
| He was smart, but he always had this fucking terrible insecurity. | ||
| There's this thing about him, and then one time we had a conversation about it. | ||
| He's like, my brother just beat the fuck out of me my whole life. | ||
| He was like living with, like he was being terrorized by his brother, and nobody did anything about it. | ||
| His brother was probably- The parents didn't want to get involved. | ||
| It just fucked up his head forever. | ||
| When you get a sibling that's abusing you, you know what I mean? | ||
| Because you really can't do shit about it. | ||
| But that's, you know, hey, guys like that, at this point, that they're still having this hang-up, psilocybin. | ||
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Yeah, for sure. | |
| Go to a therapist, do that treatment, and... | ||
| It'll help you. | ||
| It's almost like, you know, when people go do the ayahuasca thing and they got the shaman guiding you through, you know what I mean? | ||
| And you need guidance with stuff like that. | ||
| Also, you need guidance because there's probably a bunch of medications that people take. | ||
| You wouldn't ever want to take with mushrooms. | ||
| You would want to talk to a doctor. | ||
| There's got to be, right? | ||
| What medications are dangerous when mixed with psilocybin? | ||
| Google that. | ||
| Because there's got to be some stuff like MAO inhibitors and stuff that would make you lose your fucking marbles. | ||
| McKenna told some story once about he took some sort of an MAO inhibitor and mushrooms at the same time and he almost lost his mind. | ||
| I believe that was the combination he was talking about. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| But it was just way too much. | ||
| And it took him a while before he could sort of... | ||
| The way he was describing it was much more eloquent. | ||
| But he was like talking about how he was trying to reformulate reality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Essentially. | ||
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That it wasn't... | |
| That went deep. | ||
| Yeah, he was like gone. | ||
| Like, oh my god, I'm never coming back gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and then it just took a while. | ||
| And then eventually... | ||
| There's stories of him and his brother... | ||
| They took mushrooms in the Amazon, and they found these fresh mushrooms, and the brother went way, way, way too hard. | ||
| He went way too hard. | ||
| In the Amazon, he took mushrooms. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And he was gone for weeks. | ||
| He was gone for weeks. | ||
| For weeks. | ||
| Yeah, some folks don't come back from that as quickly as others, and some people stay. | ||
| Some people stay. | ||
| If you're prone to having mental issues already, it's probably not a good idea to do it. | ||
| Not without a guide. | ||
| And even then, probably you should just do a little. | ||
| Yeah, moderate. | ||
| I'm not a doctor, clearly. | ||
| Don't take my advice on anything. | ||
| But in that regard, I would say what they did was wild. | ||
| They just ate a pile of them. | ||
| Like, who knows how much it was? | ||
| There's like fresh mushrooms in the Amazon, and he was apparently just fucking gone. | ||
| You know, people are going extra hard on the mushrooms as of late. | ||
| Like, you know, we talk about it on the Dr. Green Thumb show, right? | ||
| And we were talking about, you know what, one day we're going to do, you know, a microdose before we go on, or a moderate dose, right? | ||
| And we did that, and everything was fucking hilarious to us, right? | ||
| After that show, we started seeing some of the fans and like, yo, this is what I'm doing today, right? | ||
| And they'll send us the shake prep, if you will. | ||
| They'll do them in shakes, right? | ||
| And they'll take a pile of mushrooms and grind them up in that shake. | ||
| And we're like, damn, you ain't coming back for a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Back in the day, we used to do like an eighth before we went on stage. | ||
| We'd take an eighth of mushrooms, and that was a lot for that time. | ||
| But people are doing double that. | ||
| We're like, whoa. | ||
| You guys ain't... | ||
| Floating around in alternative reality. | ||
| You're going into the portal. | ||
| You're into the portal and then you're interacting with the material world while you're in the portal. | ||
| Yeah, and that's the hard part. | ||
| If you're around like-minded people like everybody took and it's closed off to the world and you guys are right there, it's fine. | ||
| But it's always the one person that might not be in the world with you in that way and they might throw the whole damn thing off. | ||
| Yeah, that can happen. | ||
| Because you're trying to relax. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you see that someone's losing their shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or vice versa. | ||
| You could be like, we're all totally here. | ||
| That person doesn't understand where we're at. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because he's not in it or she's not in it with us. | ||
| What's really important to me is it could help so many people. | ||
| Like so many veterans. | ||
| Like so many people with PTSD. Yeah, you know so many people like my friend assault victims I think that I think there's a real potential that it can help but it's dangerous Yeah, it's like everything where you're you're monkeying with your mind. | ||
| It's dangerous. | ||
| It shouldn't be treated lightly. | ||
| No It's real stuff. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, you know There's people that do it for, you know, casual use to, you know, just like someone smokes weed. | ||
| Not everybody smokes weed for the health benefit of it, you know what I mean? | ||
| And it's the same thing with mushrooms. | ||
| Some people are partying with it. | ||
| And some people are trying to actually get You know a benefit from it in the way that will help them With whatever issue that they're having that they they feel it could help for So, you know, I think there's there's a different sort of responsibility On on each shoulder and I think the user knows that right? | ||
| So like if you're partying on it, you know where your limits are when you're using it for a medical use You're sort of like afraid to step on the gas, you know what I mean? | ||
| So I think you go a little slowly in that aspect there, you know? | ||
| Because I think people still are genuinely afraid of it because they don't know about it. | ||
| They've only ever heard and they're trying to experiment with it. | ||
| But that's when you need someone who's experienced in it who can actually guide you through. | ||
| So if you want to do a little bit more and get a little bit more of the experience or you want to pull back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because, you know, you always got the assholes. | ||
| More! | ||
| Do more! | ||
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| And then also the other problem with it being illegal is some of the people that provide you that experience are weirdos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta hang out with some weirdos if you want to trip. | ||
| And some of them are cool. | ||
| A lot of them are cool. | ||
| Because it's illegal. | ||
| Shrooms can cause seizures? | ||
| Not a lot of studies have been done. | ||
| That's all I can find. | ||
| Is that, yeah, it can cause seizures. | ||
| So don't mix it with things that can raise your blood pressure or heart rate. | ||
| Shrooms increase your heart rate. | ||
| Shrooms can increase your heart rate in the 150 to 160 range at a normal dose. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| You're burning calories on shrooms. | ||
| Of course you are. | ||
| You're freaking the fuck out. | ||
| You can't believe what you're seeing. | ||
| Oh, and you shouldn't take it with molly, Ritalin, or other psychostimulant drugs. | ||
| This is especially true if you have a history of heart disease or blood pressure problems. | ||
| That's the most I could find. | ||
| You gotta drink a lot of water, too. | ||
| Well, maybe those are the drugs that we're talking about. | ||
| So what was it again? | ||
| Antidepressants, what does it say? | ||
| Antihistamines, benzodiazepines, or stimulants. | ||
| Because that's a serotonin crash that can happen. | ||
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| So that makes sense if you were on, like, Xanax, right? | ||
| That's benzodiazepine. | ||
| And then you did a trip. | ||
| Probably not so bueno. | ||
| Not so good. | ||
| And, you know, people don't do that sort of diligence before they go and do that shit. | ||
| It's like someone has, hey, let's do some mushrooms. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you don't know if your homie or homegirl are, like, on some medication. | ||
| You're on some asthma medication or something. | ||
| Interacts badly with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Yeah, that's why it should be fucking legal. | ||
| You should leave it up to people. | ||
| It's a freedom issue. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And people that don't understand that, like, conservatives should get on board with it because it's a fucking freedom issue. | ||
| And people want to connect it to, like, liberals and hippies. | ||
| And they push it onto the side of the left instead of looking at it like as a population of human beings that value freedom. | ||
| You value freedom. | ||
| I value your freedom to be able to have a drink. | ||
| If you want to smoke a cigar or a cigarette, do whatever the fuck you feel like doing. | ||
| You are an adult. | ||
| I value your freedom as long as you're not hurting me. | ||
| And if you can show that that thing actually has a benefit to a lot of people and it's being explored like in legitimate scientific circles and legitimate therapy circles, Shouldn't we take a fucking look at making that legal? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is crazy that you have something that grows in the ground naturally. | ||
| It grows on cow shit. | ||
| It's all over the world naturally. | ||
| People have been taking it for centuries. | ||
| Who knows how many thousands of years? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| When did they start taking mushrooms? | ||
| What's the earliest known use of mushrooms? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Because they get pretty good at that. | ||
| They get ayahuasca down, I think. | ||
| I think they know when that was. | ||
| They think that peyote is a weird one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Peyote, they say, is really recent. | ||
| I have not tried that one. | ||
| The answer Google gives me is that. | ||
| Some 6,000 years ago. | ||
| Prehistoric rock art near Villa de Jumo in Spain suggests that the Psilocybe Hispanica was used in religious rituals 6,000 years ago. | ||
| Sounds about right. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Imagine what they thought they were seeing or what they were actually seeing in that time. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's what John Marco Allegro said is the birth of Christianity. | ||
| He said it was all about psilocybin mushrooms. | ||
| He was this guy who was an ordained minister who became agnostic as he was studying theology, and he was one of the people that was hired to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls. | ||
| So for 14 years, this guy worked in the Dead Sea Scrolls. | ||
| And then he wrote this book, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross. | ||
| And in the book he was saying this was all about consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals. | ||
| That's what these original stories were about. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And he believed that what... | ||
| And this guy was like a straight-laced scientist. | ||
| He was like a straight-laced academic, rather. | ||
| He wasn't like a guy who was a tripper. | ||
| He wasn't a Timothy Leary type dude. | ||
| He was just a regular scholar who was like... | ||
| What I get out of this and the origin of these words, you can go back. | ||
| He believed that the word Christ came from an ancient Sumerian word that meant a mushroom covered in God's semen. | ||
| So people thought that when it rained, it was God coming on the earth. | ||
| And then these mushrooms would rise out. | ||
| Because you know how quick mushrooms go. | ||
| And then they would eat these mushrooms and trip balls. | ||
| So of course... | ||
| They thought that they were in contact with God through this gift. | ||
| Yeah, God's medicine right there. | ||
| Maybe they were right. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Maybe they were right. | ||
| Some of the things people see. | ||
| Maybe they were right, man. | ||
| Maybe that's what it is. | ||
| Yeah, some of the things people see are incredible, man. | ||
| It's funny how we're resistant to that. | ||
| It's funny how people are resistant to that. | ||
| It goes against the norm wash that we've been living under for so long. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was that, Jamie? | ||
| Putting together the cows and the dung. | ||
| Can I see it? | ||
| I feel like we've seen the bull. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This image before. | ||
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| Then to see the mushrooms next to it. | ||
| I don't know that I've seen that before. | ||
| They're so close. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a trip. | ||
| There's been a correlation since that's where they grow, you know? | ||
| It must be. | ||
| I mean, they must know that they grow on cow shit. | ||
| That's where they grow. | ||
| So Spain... | ||
| Do you know where Duncan Trussell used to live? | ||
| How crazy is this? | ||
| They used to give the cows an anti-fungal feed so that their shit couldn't grow mushrooms in them. | ||
| It was in Asheville, North Carolina. | ||
| And so many kids were going out there and just picking mushrooms off cow shit and just tripping their fucking balls off that they had to put a stop to it. | ||
| You goddamn hippies are going to ruin this town! | ||
| So they poisoned the cows. | ||
| They gave this cow this antifungal shit. | ||
| I don't know if it poisoned the cow. | ||
| I'm just being hyperbolic. | ||
| But they gave the cow this antifungal shit. | ||
| So they couldn't do what it naturally does, which makes the perfect habitat for psilocybin. | ||
| So they starved out all the magic mushrooms. | ||
| I don't even know if that worked. | ||
| Because that was what Duncan told me. | ||
| We should research. | ||
| That might be a total myth. | ||
| Even if it did, those kids found another way to get mushrooms. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Once they got them, they got them. | ||
| Once they got them, they got them. | ||
| There's so many ways to get any of that now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, there's so many places, though, where it grows naturally still to this day. | ||
| It's a Schedule I substance that just grows naturally. | ||
| You don't have to process it. | ||
| You don't have to do anything. | ||
| You just pick it and eat it. | ||
| And it's illegal, which is like, okay. | ||
| I think that'll change. | ||
| I mean, you see more acceptance of it as of late and the fact that they're willing to study it and talk about the actual good it's been doing in those studies. | ||
| I mean, it seems like it's a move in the right direction. | ||
| It's just slow. | ||
| It's just slow. | ||
| It's just always slow, like with cannabis. | ||
| I mean, we all know it should have been legal like probably five, ten years ago already. | ||
| There's a thing that happens where preconceived notions are very hard to let go. | ||
| And people have them about drugs, they have them about culture, they have them about a lot of things. | ||
| But drugs are a big one. | ||
| Because I've had my own preconceived notions about cannabis. | ||
| When I was a kid, I didn't really do anything. | ||
| I didn't party at all from the time when I was like 15 until I was like 21. Because I was training and fighting and that's all I did. | ||
| So I was a nerd, sort of. | ||
| I was kind of socially awkward. | ||
| And I thought that people who were getting high were just wasting their life, and they weren't going to get nowhere. | ||
| I wasn't going to do that. | ||
| I rarely drank, and if I did, I was always mad at myself. | ||
| I was like, you're going to fucking slow your body down, this is going to fuck you up, and you're not going to be able to achieve your goals. | ||
| I was too maniacal in this mindset, and I thought that weed was for losers. | ||
| Until I started hanging out with Eddie Bravo, and Eddie Bravo and I were doing jiu-jitsu together at John Jock Machado's, this is like 98, somewhere around then, and he starts talking about how much weed influences his music, and I go, really? | ||
| And he goes, yeah, he goes, jiu-jitsu techniques, like I think a lot of them up when I'm high. | ||
| I'm like, that's crazy because I thought weed just slows you down. | ||
| He goes, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's just like what people who don't smoke weed think. | ||
| I'm like, okay, let's try this shit. | ||
| So we went, got high, and then we went to Baskin and Robbins. | ||
| And I remember this is like me high for the first time in, I don't know, More than a decade probably, right? | ||
| Eating this fucking ice cream going, dude, this is the greatest fucking flavor I've ever experienced in my life. | ||
| Ice cream sundae when you're high for the first time. | ||
| Literally, I had never been high before because the time before that was like, maybe I was like in my early 20s, like 21 or something like that. | ||
| It had been a long fucking time. | ||
| Eight, nine years. | ||
| I'm like, no weed. | ||
| Weed slows you down. | ||
| Weed's bad for you. | ||
| To like, oh my god, this is magic. | ||
| This is magic. | ||
| This food tastes so good. | ||
| It tastes way better than it would taste. | ||
| You appreciate it a lot more. | ||
| Oh my god, you appreciate friendship more. | ||
| And I was like, this is amazing. | ||
| I was like, oh, I didn't know what this was. | ||
| I was like, I thought this was just for losers. | ||
| I thought this was this thing, and you take it, and you're like, wow, man. | ||
| It's all the misinformation that they put out throughout all them years, man, to keep people from it. | ||
| It's also, sometimes when you're stoned, it's hard to express yourself. | ||
| True. | ||
| And sometimes shit comes out, and it does seem like, you know, fucking, I fucking wonder, man. | ||
| Yeah, you could get that. | ||
| And if you're sober, and people are high, sometimes that can be annoying. | ||
| Like, if I'm doing concentrates, man, that's when it gets tough. | ||
| Like, flour I got all day. | ||
| You know, that's nothing for me. | ||
| But it's the concentrates and, like, the RSO. Have you done the RSO or the full-spectrum hemp oil yet? | ||
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I'm not fucking around with any of the things these kids are doing. | |
| These dabsers. | ||
| These kids were bringing dab machines everywhere they go. | ||
| They're in another dimension, man. | ||
| Ah, man. | ||
| They're in a next-door dimension. | ||
| They're not living with us right now. | ||
| They're in another place. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You know, because when they come to the show and stuff like that, some of them are very intimidated by that. | ||
| Like rappers most especially. | ||
| Rappers are intimidated by the dabs. | ||
| For real. | ||
| Like, they'll smoke the blunts. | ||
| They'll smoke the joints. | ||
| But my, you know, my peers, they don't like doing the dabs, man. | ||
| It's too strong for them. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| It's too much for me. | ||
| For me, I got used to it. | ||
| Because I gotta be universal in my path in the stoner world, right? | ||
| Because everybody's always trying to take my fucking head off. | ||
| So I have to be ready for it. | ||
| Because there was one time these guys from Weedmaps, I was doing a 420 show in Colorado, and the dabs were new to us still, you know, and they weren't as clean yet, and they were just new in the culture, but not new to these guys, right? | ||
| We all go to my hotel room, because I know these guys and stuff like that, but everybody's got their own dab rig, their own dab torch, and their own concentrates. | ||
| It's like they're Jedi's of dabbing, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We start off with one, and it's a hot dab. | ||
| This is before we start doing the low temp dabs. | ||
| Like, you know, that means heating the nail and then letting it cool down for about 40 seconds and then taking the hit so it's not hot as fuck, right? | ||
| This is when we're like heating the nail, let it cool down 10 seconds, and then go for it. | ||
| And man, that is the most devastating way you could do this, right? | ||
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So I took three hits. | |
| We all apiece took three hits, right? | ||
| And there was probably about six or seven of us After 45 minutes, I called my boy over. | ||
| I said, get everybody the fuck out of here. | ||
| I need a few minutes to gather myself. | ||
| I had to meditate out of what I was feeling right then. | ||
| And I still had a show to do later on. | ||
| How many hours to the show? | ||
| It was like maybe four hours to the show, and I was still feeling it when we got to the show. | ||
| I was high as fuck. | ||
| Higher than I had been in a long time. | ||
| And none of those guys made it to the show. | ||
| They all went home and slept. | ||
| I went and did a fucking show, you know? | ||
| But after that, that's when I decided, okay, well, I don't, you know, dabs ain't my thing, but I'm gonna keep up on it so that I don't get my fucking head taken off again. | ||
| And, you know, so... | ||
| Other rappers, you know, have gone through the same thing where it's like, you know, they either don't try it at all because of the way it looks. | ||
| The torch to the nail, you know, is very cracky to us, you know what I mean? | ||
| So, like, a lot of them don't fuck with it that way, but some of them now and then will try. | ||
| And then they'll love the taste, but the high is so fucking extreme after that they don't want no part of it. | ||
| They'll just stick to the flower. | ||
| Rapper high levels are way higher than comedian high levels. | ||
| We smoke a lot. | ||
| Rappers smoke all day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like watching people like Snoop Dogg put down blunt after blunt and roll them, roll them himself, spark them up, put down another one, roll another one, spark it up. | ||
| Action Bronson. | ||
| How many joints did Action Bronson smoke on the show? | ||
| Yeah, he's an avid smoker. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| He had like eight, nine joints. | ||
| The one... | ||
| The one who's a monster, like myself in that regard, is Wiz Khalifa. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That guy can smoke weed all day. | ||
| He can do the concentrates. | ||
| He does the bong hits. | ||
| I don't do the bong hits too much anymore. | ||
| But, like, the dabbing and that stuff I'll do. | ||
| But... | ||
| Yeah, he smokes like a monster. | ||
| And he's the perfect argument against weed makes you lazy. | ||
| Yeah, no, because he's always doing something. | ||
| He's always doing something. | ||
| He's training Muay Thai. | ||
| Training Muay Thai. | ||
| He's practically a pro fucking bowler. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh man, this dude and his partner Chevy Woods. | ||
| Those two guys, they hit the lanes like crazy. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| And they're fucking good. | ||
| I thought I was good. | ||
| I was good when I was a kid. | ||
| I'm okay now. | ||
| But when I saw them both, I said, if I'm going to go at them, I'm going to have to be getting my role together for about six months before I try these guys. | ||
| Because they're rolling high numbers up there. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And they're doing that high as fuck. | ||
| You know, they're not sober in their role and sober. | ||
| They're high as fuck going in there, getting some good numbers, man. | ||
| I'll be like, okay, Wiz. | ||
| That makes sense, because bowling is a feel thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It makes sense that you would like a better feeling of where the ball's going to go if you're high. | ||
| For me, any physical activity when you're stoned, when you're an avid stoner, right? | ||
| To me, it puts you in a zone where you can concentrate more on the shit you do. | ||
| So, for instance, I do archery with my daughter, and beforehand, you know, I'll go smoke out before we go, and I'll just be comfortable. | ||
| As opposed to when I've tried it when I wasn't. | ||
| And there's just something like, it settles me in, my targeting's better, my breathing is better, all that. | ||
| And even as it relates to workouts, I feel like I could work out longer than if I'm, like, put it this way, for example, if I'm not stoned, I'll set the time that I'm gonna work out, hour and a half, and on that hour and a half, I'll stop. | ||
| But if I'm stoned, I'll lose myself in it, and I'll go longer than that hour and a half. | ||
| And that's sort of what it does to me. | ||
| It just gives me that hyper-focus where I'm just locked in. | ||
| When I'm stoned, I'm getting more information. | ||
| It feels like I'm more, when I'm doing physical things like martial arts, for example. | ||
| When I'm stoned, I feel like my timing better. | ||
| I feel like when I'm supposed to move into something better. | ||
| I've had breakthroughs in technique from being high and hitting the bag because you realize there's just a perfect timing to the way it impacts. | ||
| You know, you're a martial artist. | ||
| I think it slows you down. | ||
| It allows you to, like, you know, not rush into... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To do it properly. | ||
| To do it properly. | ||
| Yeah, it makes you feel the technique. | ||
| Like, you feel your body moving, like, in a little bit more harmony. | ||
| Because sometimes when I'm not warmed up or maybe when, you know, I'm, you know, maybe I'm a little sore or something like that, you can kind of force things the wrong way. | ||
| And you can even hurt yourself doing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But when you're high, you almost like feel the way your muscles are. | ||
| Like when you do chin-ups when you're high, it's like you feel your back, you feel everything in it. | ||
| It just makes everything very hypersensitive. | ||
| Yeah, I always felt like when I went into the dojo, when I was training, you know, when I went in sober, there was always this anxiety trying to like do it all right. | ||
| And like sort of doing too much, you know, trying to like go faster than you actually should. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, in your progression, it's, you know, being too excitable and stuff like that. | ||
| Whereas when I went in high, I would absorb it, like you said, absorb it more and focus on everything that I was doing, like from the snap of the punches to the blocks and kicks and all that stuff. | ||
| Like instead of rushing it and trying to go out and impress sensei or. | ||
| you know, All that that you do because ego comes in as well when you're in a doji. | ||
| I want to be the best student in here. | ||
| It's almost like a competition sometimes, right? | ||
| But when I'd go in stone, I wouldn't even think about that. | ||
| It was just all about absorbing what he was giving to us that day and then trying to do it and slowing my mind down to do it right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know where it really helps? | ||
| Stretching. | ||
| Yeah, stretching. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you stretch when you're high, it's like you're releasing things. | ||
| You're like... | ||
| High yoga. | ||
| Yeah, high yoga. | ||
| Well, that was apparently what a lot of the ancient yogis used to do. | ||
| They used to take hashish. | ||
| Hashish, yeah. | ||
| They would take hashish and get into these funky poses, which makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you were high as fuck and you're all doing, that's what you'd do. | ||
| That's what you'd do. | ||
| If you were fucking high as fuck on hash, stand there. | ||
| I would love I would do it I mean sometimes like sometimes I'll meditate and I'll be high as fuck when I'm meditating and that that allows me to go longer yeah because sometimes you know like I'm a gemini and if I'm not high man I'm high strong and I try to rush I'll rush through shit so like if if I mean to like meditate for 10 minutes and I'm not stoned before I do it I'll be trying to rush the meditation I'm like looking at the time is it 10 minutes yet You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if I get stoned, I'm not even looking at the watch. | ||
| I'm just... | ||
| You're in it. | ||
| You're just in it. | ||
| Yeah, time flies. | ||
| You don't even recognize it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you were that high, I mean, have you ever taken a yoga class high? | ||
| Like, really high? | ||
| Like, hashish high? | ||
| Hashish high? | ||
| No. | ||
| Neither have I. I've taken a yoga class mildly high, and it was great. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| I would imagine if you were hashish high, and you're eating nothing but lentils, and you're on this vegan diet, and just everyday home, everyday stretching, everyday doing it, you're probably tripping balls. | ||
| You're tripping balls. | ||
| Tripping balls. | ||
| And you're healing yourself, too, though, while you're tripping those balls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That would be a fascinating person to talk to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's plenty of them out there, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially these new age yogis, man. | ||
| Those dudes, they would be like rappers, too. | ||
| They'd try to smoke your head off. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| How many chillums can you smoke? | ||
| That was like a thing with these dudes, these yogis. | ||
| Yeah, you know, that's the thing. | ||
| When you're known for something like that, man, they're trying to test. | ||
| People coming for you. | ||
| Oh, they are coming. | ||
| Kenneth Sino used to talk about that with cocaine. | ||
| He would say that when he would go to a party, they'd go, It's him! | ||
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It's him! | |
| And they'd put this giant line out. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| And I'd just have to fucking, fucking get through. | ||
| So he would snort the line and almost have a heart attack. | ||
| Hilarious bit. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You can't do that shit today. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, this is the byproduct of illegality, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's how this happens. | ||
| If it's illegal, then it's unregulated. | ||
| If it's unregulated, sometimes there's poison in it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the problem, man. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Going back to what we said in the beginning, that people would even gamble knowing that that is a possibility. | ||
| Unless you know where it's coming from. | ||
| Do you think that this country could survive legalization of hard drugs like cocaine? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Do you envision that that would... | ||
| Like, we all want cannabis, and it seems like cannabis is going to happen. | ||
| It seems like it's on the way to happening. | ||
| I think you have to educate people more and be open to educate them properly instead of propaganda education, where you're just telling them half-truths to let them know what you want them to know. | ||
| Like, in Europe, they're a little bit more with the shits in terms of... | ||
| How they deal with alcohol, how they deal with drugs, how they deal with nudity on TV, just little things like that. | ||
| We are so uptight over here that we're afraid to teach people about these things because maybe that education will lead them there as opposed to being upfront with them. | ||
| Like, look, this is what it is. | ||
| This is what happens. | ||
| And all the other shit instead of, hey, this over here, don't do it. | ||
| Well, the problem is everybody's finding out from everybody else. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| You have to educate them properly. | ||
| You're not getting good information from your friends about how much molly you should take. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can't let someone else educate them. | ||
| You have to be the one to do it instead of the sheltering that we've gotten through most of our lives here. | ||
| You know, us growing up, our generation, our parents didn't want to tell us shit. | ||
| Just don't do that. | ||
| And sometimes they didn't know how to explain why. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But we are in a different place in different time where energy, I mean, information is vast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you can get it at the click of a finger, you know, click at a key on your computer, you know what I mean? | ||
| You just got to also take into account that people that live like us today, humans listening to this in 2023, This is a new type of person. | ||
| This is a new type of informed person. | ||
| People are so much more informed, even misinformed, than they've ever been before. | ||
| You're dealing with an information overload that's never, never existed before. | ||
| And, you know, if you just go back a couple generations, like my grandparents came from Italy, so we're talking about, you know, they came over here during the Depression. | ||
| They lived on a farm. | ||
| It was horrible, brutal shit in Italy. | ||
| They came over to America. | ||
| Those people that just got on a boat before YouTube and just moved their whole family across the country, those are wild people, man. | ||
| And they were just trying to escape whatever the fuck was going on in Europe, which is probably even worse. | ||
| Fuck it, I'll take a chance on a boat. | ||
| And then they got to America and they fucking sign up. | ||
| You could just be an American back then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, you could just show up and you were an American. | ||
| It's not like today where it's like these rigorous background checks. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Back then, they just let immigrants in, right? | ||
| What was it like to become an immigrant to America in 1920? | ||
| I mean, did they turn anybody away? | ||
| I don't think they turned anybody away, but they definitely put them through it. | ||
| Am I talking out of my ass? | ||
| I mean, did they have an extensive thing that they do to let someone become an American citizen back then? | ||
| It seems like it's hard today. | ||
| I think for some folks, they got put to work. | ||
| You know, yeah, you can come in here, but we need this and this and that, and you're going to do that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You know, like, have you been watching Yellowstone at all? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Have you watched prequel, like the 1883, 19... | ||
| No, not yet. | ||
| I love Yellowstone, though. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It's a great show. | ||
| Watch the prequel. | ||
| The prequel, 1883 is... | ||
| I heard it's amazing. | ||
| Based off the Duttons coming from, I think, Tennessee or wherever, or Wyoming or something. | ||
| I think it's Tennessee. | ||
| But, like, them trying to get to Oregon. | ||
| The original place they're trying to get to is Oregon, but they never make it there. | ||
| I won't blow the story. | ||
| And they end up going to Montana, but... | ||
| Seeing how they trekked from one side of the country to the other and the shit they had to deal with with bandits all along those trails and just the elements, man. | ||
| Coming into the country and having to go across it. | ||
| In the 1883 one, it's like they're going with a group of people. | ||
| It's not just their family. | ||
| They're going with a group of people that came from Germany and that are trying to go to Oregon because there's free land there. | ||
| They don't have any money. | ||
| All they have is what they have with them that they brought from Germany. | ||
| They're prospective parts of Europe, and they're trying to get from wherever they're at to Oregon, and on the way, man, the shit that they go through. | ||
| And it gives you sort of like that idea of what people were dealing with in that time. | ||
| Yeah, we can't even imagine living like that, and that's the only way you could live. | ||
| That's the way people lived back then. | ||
| So what we're talking about today in 2023 is just a few generations removed from that. | ||
| I know it doesn't seem like it, but I had this joke that I used to do about the United States was founded in 1776. People lived to be 100. That's three people ago. | ||
| Like, there's three people ago... | ||
| That lived back... | ||
| That we're living like savages that brought slaves over on wooden boats powered by the wind. | ||
| Three people ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's how recent civilization is, like, in terms of, like, what we enjoy today. | ||
| Like, this civilized view of the world, informed view of the world. | ||
| This is really recent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's evolved into something really different. | ||
| Very, very different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's going to be a power struggle and there's going to be a lot of fucking weirdness with people trying to dictate how you think and feel and what to do and what not to do. | ||
| But at the end of the day, more people are being heard than ever before. | ||
| More people's voices are being heard than ever before. | ||
| More important issues are being raised that people weren't aware of. | ||
| More shit that you're not hearing about mainstream news that's really affecting your life. | ||
| And you're finding out more about people. | ||
| There's way more information. | ||
| It's an overall net positive. | ||
| It's just a rocky-ass road. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| With all these platforms, right? | ||
| Before these platforms existed where you could be a voice, maybe you didn't intend to, but you became one through one of these platforms. | ||
| Before they existed, all you ever had were the articles that might pop up on this website by this writer or that writer or whatever they got on the news. | ||
| And obviously, they don't ever always tell you the full story on anything. | ||
| But when you got people that now can go on to any social media platform and tell you exactly what they saw without worrying about what the FCC is going to say about the reporting or what your senior editor and staff is going to say about how you brought this story, you don't got to... | ||
| Don't worry about any of that. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| You could capture that, talk about it, and it go viral, and now you're a voice, because people are listening to you now. | ||
| It's a different world. | ||
| Yeah, that's different. | ||
| And you have a bunch of voices now. | ||
| People will be heard now. | ||
| But the problem with that, too, though, is now... | ||
| That you also have the troll generation that, like, they're there to troll anything. | ||
| Even if it's really good information, they're there to, you know, just bring it all down. | ||
| Because that's what they do. | ||
| It doesn't matter if it's something that's going to help someone. | ||
| There's always those folks that want to come tear it down. | ||
| There's always people that want to throw rocks at windows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| But I kind of think the one thing that they do is they strengthen up the defense of whatever you're trying to promote. | ||
| Like, it has to become more undeniable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If trolls can crack your defenses. | ||
| You got to use them as fuel, basically. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| David Goggins says he takes all of his haters, like all the shit that they said to him, and he puts it on like a soundtrack, and he listens to it when he runs. | ||
| He says it out. | ||
| He reads it out. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| You know how psycho he is? | ||
| That's his Rocky anthem? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, he puts shit that people say about him, he puts it on an audio track and runs on it. | ||
| You know, I would imagine that's likened to a boxer putting up the picture of the other boxer that's been talking shit the whole time, or MMA fighter, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, boom, here's this fucker on the wall. | ||
| And in the movie, on the day of the fight, he rips the poster down, you motherfucker. | ||
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| That is an interesting way to fuel up, to record all your haters' statements. | ||
| It's just playing back to yourself. | ||
| If you listen to David's life story, David has two incredible books. | ||
| They're amazing. | ||
| And one of the things about the books that's so amazing is you realize what he endured as a child and what he went through, the abuse that he received. | ||
| How he came out of that this like unstoppable dude And he was like fat at one point in time. | ||
| He's open about all these like 300 pounds just drinking milkshakes and he couldn't even run around the block And then he turned himself into that dude. | ||
| He unlocked it. | ||
| Yeah You know that goes to show you the strength that the human spirit has you can be shit on your whole life Deprived of these opportunities here there Maybe not have the guidance from your parents or whatever, or maybe not even have any, because some kids get abandoned and stuff like that. | ||
| And to be able to pull out of that and that not be the anchor that holds you down for the rest of your life, and that's your excuse. | ||
| Like, oh, well, the reason I wasn't able to do this was because of... | ||
| You can always get past these things. | ||
| You just got to look inside and then eventually let all that shit go and use it as fuel and strength. | ||
| And it's great to hear when people actually do this because it is possible. | ||
| We do have this ability in us. | ||
| We just got to look deep inside even when it's ugly because that's the thing, right? | ||
| Everybody wants it all nice. | ||
| They want a great story and You know, you don't want all the ugliness, but sometimes life is ugly and we deal with it as people, depending how you grew up, your upbringing or, you know, you grew up in poverty or whatever. | ||
| These are things that you deal with, but it doesn't define you. | ||
| You could look within and unlock that shit that unlocks your full potential to take you out of that situation and put you in a better place and allow you to evolve and grow and to be a better person. | ||
| And not perpetuate any of the shit you went through to now your kids or whoever else. | ||
| That is possible. | ||
| People just gotta know that that's possible. | ||
| It is possible. | ||
| And then, you know, there's people that take it to different levels. | ||
| Some people just improve their life and then there's guys like Goggins who's just always trying to push the boundaries of what's physically possible for a human body to endure. | ||
| Which is just a nutty way to live your life. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Run hundreds and hundreds of miles. | ||
| You know, his knees were fucked up. | ||
| Like so fucked up that the doctor looked at it and said, I can't even believe you can walk on these knees. | ||
| Forget about run thousands of miles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like he was just bone on bone on his knees and just enduring pain. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Till the wheels fall off. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Till the wheels fall off. | ||
| That's the human spirit. | ||
| I mean, there's one of these dudes who's a... | ||
| He goes up Everest and he conquered like the... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| How many summits are there that... | ||
| Oh, you mean Nimstein? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How do you say his name? | ||
| He was a guest on the podcast. | ||
| I don't want to fuck up the pronunciation. | ||
| I mean, that's crazy. | ||
| That's an amazing documentary. | ||
| Was it 12 Peaks? | ||
| Yeah, 12 Peaks. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I mean, when you think... | ||
| What it takes to do that once. | ||
| Nims Purja and his, uh, it's like, is Nims Jai his, um, Instagram handle? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Uh, but fascinating dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he, um, you know, just had, it was a, like a special operator and, um, Had incredible endurance. | ||
| His endurance, what he's capable of doing is fucking extraordinary. | ||
| He goes up there with no air, man. | ||
| He doesn't have assisted air, and apparently his VO2 max is through the roof. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| When you think about what it takes to do one. | ||
| One! | ||
| And he's done twelve. | ||
| And he was banging them off quick. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| Speaking of that, did you catch the one about when the earthquake hit? | ||
| They were at Everest, and it hit two different places, I think, in the city. | ||
| Well, it affected three different places. | ||
| It affected the city, this small village, I can't remember what it was called, and the people that were climbing up Everest. | ||
| There was like two camps. | ||
| And the people that were in Camp 1, they got stuck up there for some time because when the earthquake hit, like, they had no idea on that day what was happening for them, right? | ||
| But the people that were at base camp, what happened there, a lot of them got wiped out. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Was it an avalanche? | ||
| Yeah, it was an avalanche that came. | ||
| It's a... | ||
| It's a documentary that tells you what happened in that earthquake. | ||
| There you go, Aftershock. | ||
| Man, it devastated three places like you wouldn't believe, man. | ||
| I mean, because a lot of that is old structure, yeah. | ||
| Look at the devastation from Avalanche. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, from base camp over there. | ||
| And this is in the city of Nepal, I believe. | ||
| I want to talk about living in a totally different way. | ||
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| Living up there at the base of those mountains. | ||
| Man. | ||
| What? | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
| I can't imagine being up there during an earthquake knowing that the avalanche is coming down. | ||
| That's gotta be one of the most fucked up ways to go, an avalanche. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| Just seeing this mountain of snow coming your way. | ||
| Imagine how many bodies are buried in that mountain. | ||
| That mountain's alive. | ||
| Well, that's how those, like, Iceman dudes, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When they found that dude in the glacier? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Completely frozen is probably how he got taken out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something similar. | ||
| Or fell in a crack somewhere. | ||
| Got wiped out. | ||
| Was I just going to ask you? | ||
| What were we just talking about before that? | ||
| It was pronunciation on dudes' names. | ||
| No, I lost it. | ||
| No, we passed it. | ||
| God damn it, this is marijuana. | ||
| That stoner thing. | ||
| It is. | ||
| The thing I was looking up before that was the immigration laws. | ||
| Oh yeah, that was what it was. | ||
| Oh, okay, so I have 1928. With the change of when all this started going down. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| After World War I, America became an isolationist nation in December 1920. In the context of isolationism, the international influenza pandemic, and a post-war economic recession, the US House of Representatives voted to end all immigration to the United States for one year. | ||
| So that was just one year, though. | ||
| So then they added... | ||
| So it got interesting right down here. | ||
| Quota Act 1921. They called it midnight races, where boats had to get into the shore by midnight, or they were going to get fined for bringing people that exceeded the quota. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So they have to get in there quick? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| So they're racing to get to shore? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| If they came an hour later, though, they'd be allowed in on the next day's... | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Quota, which sounds like it gets confusing. | ||
| 1924, they figured it out. | ||
| So for three years, it sounded like it was chaos. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| 1923 is that second part of Yellowstone. | ||
| I heard that's amazing, too. | ||
| That's good, too. | ||
| I heard they're all amazing. | ||
| That Taylor Sheridan's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker, I gotta say. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Tulsa King is also dope. | ||
| I've heard it's great. | ||
| I've heard it's great. | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| You know, I thought it was going to be corny when I first saw it. | ||
| When I saw the trailers for it, I'm like, what's he doing? | ||
| So that's just a little mobster in Oklahoma? | ||
| And he's fucking killing it. | ||
| He's fucking killing it, I gotta tell you. | ||
| And the storyline is hilarious. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Tulsa King. | ||
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| Bro, I can't think of Tulsa and King without thinking of Tiger King. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When I think of Oklahoma and Tiger King, that guy... | ||
| Man. | ||
| He had a run, though. | ||
| I was genuinely hoping Trump was gonna pardon him. | ||
| He got close. | ||
| That's because I think it would be so crazy. | ||
| He got close. | ||
| If Trump pardoned him, that would have been one of the wildest... | ||
| That would have been one of the wildest fuck yous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, of all this shit... | ||
| How crazy is a presidential pardon? | ||
| How crazy is it that there's a thing that if you become president, you can decide that you're gonna take a person who's in jail for the rest of their life and go, nope, not anymore, Frank. | ||
| Now you're out in the streets. | ||
| What'd you do, Bobby? | ||
| You sold cocaine? | ||
| Well, don't you feel bad? | ||
| Good. | ||
| You're free. | ||
| You could do that if you're president, which is crazy. | ||
| How many pardons do they get to issue out? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I don't know if there's a quota. | ||
| I don't know if there's a cap on it. | ||
| Because they all do at least one. | ||
| Oh, they do a lot. | ||
| Yeah, but what is the quota? | ||
| How many do they get to pardon? | ||
| I think they do. | ||
| What's the most anyone's ever done? | ||
| I'd like to know that. | ||
| If there is a cap, I'd like to know if everybody hits the cap. | ||
| Among the president's power is broad. | ||
| It is not without accepted limitations. | ||
| Perhaps the most important that the president can only pardon federal offenses. | ||
| He cannot interfere with state prosecutions. | ||
| Oh, so anything federal. | ||
| So he's unlimited in terms of if there is a federal issue, he could issue a pardon. | ||
| Is there a limit to presidential pardons? | ||
| What is the only exception to the president's pardon power under the Constitution? | ||
| The president's clemency power extends to all federal criminal offenses except in cases of impeachment. | ||
| So an impeachment... | ||
| Okay, but so... | ||
| So if the president's homie did a state crime... | ||
| He can't do shit for them, but if it's a federal crime, he can totally say, I'm going to give you this get-out-of-jail-free card. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| It's wild that one man can have that much power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| And you know, like, what's different than state and federal is that state, you can get released early based off of what you do in that time. | ||
| If you're an ideal inmate, you know, working and educating yourself and, you know... | ||
| Good behavior, right, as they call it. | ||
| You might be able to cut some of your time off in state time, but federal time, you do pretty much 95% of it. | ||
| There is no splicing that time down. | ||
| So realistically, you want that card. | ||
| If you're creating federal crimes out there... | ||
| You want the president to have that card for you. | ||
| Could you imagine the amount of text message Donald Trump got before he left office? | ||
| To those particular guys? | ||
| Pardon my cousin. | ||
| Pardon my friend's boss. | ||
| Pardon this guy. | ||
| How many people do... | ||
| Ooh, look at this. | ||
| Barack Obama pardoned 1,927 people. | ||
| He seems like he's got the most of... | ||
| He got the most, yeah. | ||
| Trump only had 237. Huh. | ||
| It's all that was close. | ||
| It was real close. | ||
| 237 loyal people. | ||
| They were so loyal, these people. | ||
| So it seems like Obama had the most. | ||
| But you know what, man? | ||
| How many people are in jail for the wrong reasons? | ||
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Too many. | |
| How many people are in jail for bullshit? | ||
| How many people are in jail under false crimes? | ||
| Crimes they didn't commit? | ||
| A lot. | ||
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A lot. | |
| Turns out a lot. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| They're still figuring out how they let some of these people out that they were supposed to let out for cannabis in some of the states where it's legal. | ||
| That's why the Last Prisoner Project exists, so that they can go and help those folks in those states. | ||
| Provided that it wasn't... | ||
| I believe that if it wasn't... | ||
| Let's say a violent crime attached to it, you know, obviously they're trying to get a lot of these people out. | ||
| Because I think if you got obviously a violent crime attached to your cannabis charge, they're not just letting you out. | ||
| You've got to deal with whatever that is. | ||
| But anything that was just cannabis-related possession that didn't have any of that, I mean, they're trying to get a lot of these people released. | ||
| They still haven't done that. | ||
| Could you imagine going to jail and then there was a story about a guy who got arrested in Phoenix. | ||
| We talked about this before. | ||
| He was a young kid and I want to say he's 20, 21 years old and he sold weed to this undercover cop a couple times and then they got him for selling more than an ounce Because he had a prior with something else, like an assault, but that he did his time. | ||
| Here, a South Phoenix kid got 16 years in a slammer for one ounce of weed. | ||
| So 16 years, they're punishing him for this. | ||
| And now weed's legal in Phoenix. | ||
| So this dude is now in a jail for selling something to an undercover cop who kind of, like, come on, man. | ||
| The undercover cop thing is so fucking... | ||
| If we knew the cops were just 100% honest all the time... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But you're allowing cops to professionally lie and go undercover to try to buy weed from a kid? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what are you wasting my tax dollars on, motherfucker? | ||
| They got nothing better to do. | ||
| Isn't there, like, someone stealing cars or breaking into houses out there that you can go handle? | ||
| Why the fuck are you bothering this dude selling little bags of weed for a little extra money? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to be able to put that guy in a cage for 16 years. | ||
| For 16 years. | ||
| While there's legal stores there now, in the same place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Insanity. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| It's insanity. | ||
| Yeah, and he's one of those cases that they should look at, you know, with the last prisoner project. | ||
| They should look at a case like that and be like, okay, we're going to rally behind a guy like this. | ||
| Because, I mean... | ||
| The problem is he's not even wrongly accused. | ||
| The problem is the law as applied. | ||
| That's fucking horrendous to do that to a 21 year old kid to give him 16 years for selling an ounce and a half of weed or whatever it was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy, man. | ||
| That's why people got to, you know, people got to make the change. | ||
| They can't depend on politicians for this. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, get the group of people that will go out there and do the work and put this on the state legislation and legalize it or decriminalize it in your state so that shit like that does not happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's legal in Arizona. | ||
| It's legal now where this guy's in jail. | ||
| So it's so insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so insane. | ||
| And, you know, I mean, you could go on and on about it, but, like, how many people have their lives ruined for no fucking reason? | ||
| No logical reason. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense at all. | ||
| Well, you know, when you think about that half of the politicians out there and legislators and, you know, some even... | ||
| In the entertainment industry, they're invested in private prisons. | ||
| They want to keep them prisons full. | ||
| Yeah, there's a little bit of that. | ||
| So there's that part, too. | ||
| So, you know, a lot of things, a lot of laws to a lot of folks in different places are unfair, especially as it relates to cannabis. | ||
| Well, what's really wild is there's this massive history of human usage, right? | ||
| It goes back thousands and thousands of years. | ||
| And then, in the 1930s, They decide to do this propaganda campaign against weed and they do Reefer Madness. | ||
| Reefer Madness, yeah. | ||
| And all these fucking movies that show people smoking pot and going crazy and losing their fucking minds and just lets you know, this is going to take hold of your children! | ||
| So they turn this thing that everybody had always used into this new drug. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they called it marijuana. | ||
| And you know, as well as I know, that's the name for a wild Mexican tobacco. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They came up with a name and attached it to cannabis, which people had always used. | ||
| And they turned it into this scary thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they told farmers, like, you could still grow it for hemp. | ||
| But all this weed-smoking shit, this is over, kids. | ||
| We're gonna make this illegal. | ||
| You're gonna need a tax stamp for that hemp. | ||
| And these fucking... | ||
| They figured out a way to get people to believe that this thing that people had taken forever was fucking dangerous and ruining lives. | ||
| And that propaganda from the 1930s, from those movies, still works today. | ||
| The momentum of it. | ||
| It raised our grandparents. | ||
| Our grandparents raised our parents. | ||
| It's in us. | ||
| It's like the dumbest shit. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Fortunately, it stopped at our parents. | ||
| A lot of people got open after that and actually turned their parents on because when you go into dispensaries now, you see cats our age, right? | ||
| And obviously younger people, but you see seniors up in there as well. | ||
| Whether they're in there for edibles or they're going to smoke flower or even concentrates, which trips me out. | ||
| But... | ||
| That the old folks get down with that. | ||
| You see it. | ||
| And fortunately, that's because there's a lot of information out there now that if you're not sure about that propaganda that you grew up to, you can always now do your own diligence and do your own homework and find other articles based on cannabis that will tell you positive things. | ||
| And this is things they've never realized or thought of or heard before, and it opens up their world. | ||
| Now, it's not enough of them, because I think if it was, you know, if it was common knowledge amongst everybody that this is a healing plant, and aside from casual use, it can benefit people, more people would embrace it. | ||
| And you see that happening, but it's just slow, for some reason, still. | ||
| Everything's slow, man, because, like we were talking about before, I think people have preconceived notions that they don't want to dismiss, they don't want to let go of. | ||
| Even when they're confronted with new evidence, they want to, like, still stay, nah, weed is for losers! | ||
| Weed is for goddamn losers! | ||
| Or gateway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a goddamn gateway drug. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen, Mr. Be Real, you might be able to do it, but what if my son starts doing ketamine afterwards and fighting with the cops? | ||
| Kicking out back windows. | ||
| Yeah, kicking out back windows barefoot. | ||
| Like Kenny Loggins. | ||
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Footloose. | |
| I would say one of his friends turned him on to the ketamine. | ||
| It doesn't have anything to do with weed. | ||
| It's got nothing to do with weed. | ||
| But the idea that you couldn't go from alcohol to cocaine is so stupid. | ||
| Of course you could. | ||
| Is that a gateway to coke? | ||
| Because I know a lot of people drink and they do coke. | ||
| One doesn't create the other stupid. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| It's a gateway drug. | ||
| And your own choices are the gateway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not this or that. | ||
| That's what's important, right? | ||
| The people you hang with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can hang with some people that will buy some street coke and put you in a coma. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, and imagine, like, they're the ones who live. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And your friends, you know, you were the party provider and a couple of your friends are now gone. | ||
| I mean, to deal with that. | ||
| And it's happening all over the country. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's the, you know, what is it? | ||
| 100,000 people now? | ||
| A year? | ||
| Somewhere in the neighborhood of 100,000 people die? | ||
| I mean, you think about how many, like... | ||
| Opiates? | ||
| How many folks that, like, are just the average Joes, you know, that are, like, on the everyday, and then you think about the celebrities that have been taken by the shit. | ||
| So in 2021, it's 70,601 people died from a fentanyl overdose in the U.S. Holy shit. | ||
| That figure is up 25% from 2020. Did you see that news story last week where they seized a shipment that had enough fentanyl to kill every American? | ||
| In the United States. | ||
| That was the story. | ||
| I did see that. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| Deaths involving synthetic opioids other than methadone, primarily fentanyl, continued to rise with 56,516 overdose deaths reported in 2020. So it just keeps going up. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| So it's nearly double the amount of fentanyl overdoses in 2019 and 2020. That should scare the shit out of cokeheads, but, you know, some of them are not fazed by this. | ||
| Fucking wild. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| So between, what did it say between 2019 and 2021, it doubled the amount of deaths? | ||
| Is that what it said? | ||
| No, up 25%. | ||
| Oh, 25. What was the one that it said afterwards? | ||
| It said double the time before that? | ||
| What was the last quote? | ||
| Can you put it back up? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So that figure is up from 25% of 2020 and nearly double the amount of fentanyl overdose deaths in 2019. That's crazy. | ||
| Look at the peak. | ||
| Look at the spike if you look at the graph. | ||
| That's going up. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's what's so sketchy about illegality. | ||
| You know, I hate to fucking beat a dead horse. | ||
| And some of it is not even coke. | ||
| Some of it is the pills. | ||
| Like, because now, you know, they're like putting it in the pills and shit like that. | ||
| Yeah, they're putting in fake stuff. | ||
| Like, you can get a fake Xanax that has that in it. | ||
| You can get a, you know, fake Ambien that has that in it. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| People whose doctors won't prescribe them stuff anymore. | ||
| Like, bro, if your doctor is saying no to you... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Doctors are like happy. | ||
| What are you, in pain? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You need something? | ||
| Here, let me write you this shit up. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I'll hook you up, pal. | ||
| Hey, I gotta say, man, thank you for coming and doing the smoke box. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| People loved it. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| I got way too high, though. | ||
| The thing about Be Real is he takes you, and him and his guys, you get high before you even get in that stupid box. | ||
| So by the time you get in the smoke box, you're already barbecued. | ||
| And there's no air in that room. | ||
| It's all just weed. | ||
| And I was sitting there going, oh my god, I could barely form sentences. | ||
| I think we did have the windows up. | ||
| That's when we did have the windows up. | ||
| We don't have the windows up anymore. | ||
| We have this shear that goes down, so a little bit of smoke. | ||
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But you guys go so hard before the show even started. | |
| Look at me. | ||
| Look how close my eyes are. | ||
| I can't even see. | ||
| Did he get... | ||
| See, that's E-Zone back there. | ||
| Did he give you a dab before you went in? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| I remember just being obliterated. | ||
| Because I remember having to tell him, like, hey, man, don't be giving our guests dabs before they get in the box, man. | ||
| They're not going to make it through it. | ||
| I don't think I did. | ||
| He did it to Doug Benson, bro. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Doug was devastated. | ||
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I was devastated. | |
| I mean, at first I thought it was a bit, right? | ||
| I thought Doug was giving me the bit, right? | ||
| But it was high as fuck. | ||
| When I left, I left hours later, right? | ||
| I'm rolling down the street. | ||
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I see Doug reclined in his front seat of his car just low, chilling there. | |
| He had to actually take a pause before he left. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, you better. | ||
| You don't want to be shaky while you're out there driving your Tesla. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, he was definitely affected. | ||
| Stay put. | ||
| Stay put. | ||
| Let that wear off. | ||
| Take a walk around the block. | ||
| Don't get in the fucking car. | ||
| Take a little walk. | ||
| Don't get in the car. | ||
| Don't try to drive. | ||
| You know, because I smoked out with Doug before, and he took a hit of our, like, eight-footer. | ||
| We were doing a show with Sublime with Rome somewhere. | ||
| Can't remember. | ||
| But this was, like, a tour we did with them. | ||
| And one show we specific, it was towards the end of the tour, we broke out the bong, and Rome wanted to hit it. | ||
| And I think, yeah, that's it right there. | ||
| It was made by Roar. | ||
| And Rome wanted to hit it because he had seen me hit it with Doug and You know we took we took a hit of that bong and Rome had to like He had he had to leave the party for a while and collect himself. | ||
| That looks ridiculous That's just too much that bong right there is too much. | ||
| That's too much I'll be honest with you when Bobo started like hitting it. | ||
| I stopped hitting it I was like I used that as a no no well Bobo wants to hit it let him do it look at the size of that thing Well, yeah, it's a thick tube all the way down. | ||
| Is that glass? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's a delicate piece of instrument right there. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost been crushed a couple times. | ||
| That one's like a 6'4". | ||
| A six-foot-four piece of glass, that's really delicate, isn't it? | ||
| That one right there you could break down. | ||
| You see in the... | ||
| Oh, there's segments to it? | ||
| Yeah, there's segments to it. | ||
| Roar made it so we could break it down. | ||
| But this one over here to... | ||
| What do you put in like a fucking... | ||
| Yeah, we had a road case for it. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So we would just shuffle it off. | ||
| But the other one that's where I'm lighting it for Eric Bobo, it's... | ||
| I think it's further down, just a little bit further down. | ||
| Where was it? | ||
| Where he's standing on a box... | ||
| It's an eight-foot piece. | ||
| That's one long-ass piece. | ||
| We didn't have a case for that one. | ||
| And we still have both of them. | ||
| Neither of them is broken, fortunately. | ||
| Fantastic job. | ||
| When they ask for our Hall of Fame piece, we'll be like, here, put this in there. | ||
| It made it. | ||
| Yeah, hey man, those two bongs toured as long as any one person toured with us, man, and they lived. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| That shows the deep respect you guys have for the bongs. | ||
| This one here. | ||
| That one's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, that's an eight-footer made by Zong. | ||
| How many pieces is that? | ||
| That's just one piece. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| How do you carry that around? | ||
| Very carefully. | ||
| Each town? | ||
| You have one in storage in each town? | ||
| We used to have to put it in the bunk area of the bus and tape it to the edges of the floor so that nobody... | ||
| And that's all glass? | ||
| That's all glass, yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| We took that thing around with us for like 10 years and it never broke, fortunately. | ||
| It sits in my studio now. | ||
| How many kids have used plastic bongs and inhaled some fucking weird shit through the plastic? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I mean, I think we all started that way. | ||
| I mean, like, the first bongs that we were hitting that I remember were the acrylic graphic bongs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Graphics. | ||
| You know, another thing I remember is we used to smoke out of pipes, and I was like, why does this always taste like lighter fluid? | ||
| And I realized I'm inhaling lighter fluid, you fucking idiot, because you always like... | ||
| And then those were fucking like metal pieces. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| None of us had really... | ||
| We didn't know. | ||
| No. | ||
| We just didn't know. | ||
| We didn't know. | ||
| Now we know. | ||
| Now we know. | ||
| Yeah, look at this plastic bong. | ||
| For sure, you're getting some fucking, all that stuff that Shanna Swan talks about, all the phthalates and everything. | ||
| It's a metal bowl, acrylic plastic bong, whatever. | ||
| Don't you think that some heat gets to the base of that plastic being the close proximity to the fire? | ||
| And don't you think that would affect the way the plastic leeches into the water? | ||
| I'm here for a natural, healthy bong experience. | ||
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I don't know that that's the best thing you should be worrying about in that scenario. | |
| It could, but I think what they used for the downstem was, you know, it's hard to say. | ||
| It's hard to say. | ||
| I think they used a glass downstem. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So it sort of had a little bit of separation, but... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it got way better when the bong started being made of glass. | ||
| It was just a better experience. | ||
| Yeah, you're not supposed to be sucking on plastic all day. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| It just seems very dorm room, too. | ||
| Oh, man, once Jerome Baker came out with his crazy-ass pieces, man, it just blew the whole glass piece world up. | ||
| We fucked up many a podcast early in the day because we used the volcano. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We would do these podcasts on... | ||
| I'd have the volcano right next to us. | ||
| We would fill that bag up. | ||
| If you don't know what a volcano is, folks, it's a vaporizer. | ||
| And you put the weed in over this heating element and it blows smoke. | ||
| It blows the smoke. | ||
| It's like a mist, actually, not the smoke. | ||
| It heats it to a specific temperature that melts the THC crystals but doesn't burn the flour. | ||
| And so then it all goes into this bag, this mist. | ||
| It's a giant-ass bag. | ||
| And you... | ||
| Yeah, those are the best, man. | ||
| And you go deep. | ||
| But sometimes you go too deep. | ||
| You don't know what the fuck you're talking about while you're talking. | ||
| While you're talking, you're trying to figure out what you're saying because you're too high. | ||
| It's a good blast. | ||
| And the flavor's good. | ||
| It's very relaxing. | ||
| It's not harsh at all. | ||
| Have you tried using the Stunden glass? | ||
| Have you ever seen that? | ||
| No, what's that? | ||
| It's a gravity piece you could use for flower or concentrate. | ||
| We use it for concentrate. | ||
| Seth Rogen was the first guy that anybody's seen with it. | ||
| They sent him a piece and it's this one. | ||
| He was the first one with it, but we did a collaboration with these guys. | ||
| Each flip pushes out a hit, right? | ||
| And you could do hookah with it or you can do flower with it. | ||
| But again, we use it for concentrates because the taste that comes out of it is crazy. | ||
| But what we'll do on our show is like the first 30 minutes, we try to have a no curse rule, right? | ||
| And it's just for sport. | ||
| So whoever curses got to either do a shot or five flips from the stomach. | ||
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Five? | |
| Oh man, one day I did. | ||
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Oh no. | |
| One day I ramped up and had to do 30 hits because I was just... | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Out of pocket that first 15 minutes. | ||
| I was like, fuck this shit, that. | ||
| Bro, out of pocket is one of the greatest statements ever. | ||
| I love that statement. | ||
| I love when people say out of pocket. | ||
| I've never confidently said out of pocket. | ||
| We could do that for the next Protect Our Parks. | ||
| Dude, that's what we're doing. | ||
| Let's go champ. | ||
| You know who's not gonna do it is Shane. | ||
| Shane gets scared of the weed. | ||
| He's a Bud Light man. | ||
| He likes to get barbecued on Bud Light. | ||
| So you guys drink Bud Lights, and if any penalty he has, he's gonna hit the weed. | ||
| And A, it works. | ||
| I tell you, that day I was so blown out by the end of the show. | ||
| When I got home, I was like, it hit me later. | ||
| It didn't hit me while we're sitting there doing the show. | ||
| It got me when I got home. | ||
| I was sitting there and I don't go to sleep till like 11, 30, 12 o'clock, something like that. | ||
| And by 10 o'clock, I was like, struggling. | ||
| And I knew it was from the 30 hits. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| That's so deep. | ||
| Yeah, we punish each other like this. | ||
| What is that one on the right? | ||
| Beverage? | ||
| So they made an infuser so that you could smoke the drink. | ||
| Oh my god, don't do it. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| You know what I fucked up once? | ||
| This weed shop near my house had those Keurig cups. | ||
| They're coffee. | ||
| It was coffee mixed with hash oil. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| Dude, I would drink a cup of coffee and not even notice and almost kind of forget that it had the hash oil in it and then an hour later I'm reading minds. | ||
| An hour later I'm like seeing intentions in people, I'm feeling tenseness and relaxation. | ||
| I'm like, whoa! | ||
| This is so strong. | ||
| Edibles are so fucking strong. | ||
| Yeah, they are, man. | ||
| You gotta, like, be looking at the milligrams on the package per piece. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, for us, we've been doing, like, RSO and full-spectrum hemp oil. | ||
| Like, for me, I use it for sleep, right? | ||
| Because I never... | ||
| For me, I've been an insomniac forever, so, like, it's hard for me to get full REM sleep, right? | ||
| Do you take something to go to sleep every night? | ||
| I never did, but my boy put me onto the full spectrum all in it, because I always thought, oh, I smoke weed, what do I need that for? | ||
| But it's different. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| Man, so he told me, because most of the time they come in the syringes, I'm sure you've seen them, Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's how it's extracted, and that's why it looks amber. | ||
| The one that's darker is through alcohol, right? | ||
| And so that one, when you see the syringe, it looks dark, it looks ugly, but it's effective, right? | ||
| So they tell you, you know, like if you're using it for medical purposes, eventually you want to get to the full syringe. | ||
| This is like weed steroids. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like when you're using it, like so cancer patients, when they're starting to use this, they tell them to use like, you know, they go with micro dosage, right? | ||
| So like a kernel, a rice kernel. | ||
| And you work your way up, your tolerance, you work your way up to eventually being able to take the whole syringe. | ||
| But that's when you're, you know, using it for a treatment for, like, cancer and other serious things. | ||
| Like, for us, like, I'm using it for sleep, right? | ||
| I was doing the kernel, and I said, okay, I could feel it, but I don't really feel it, feel it. | ||
| So I went up. | ||
| In dosage, right? | ||
| And I started going up a little bit, and one day, I really did it to myself, right? | ||
| I keep them in the fridge to keep them fresh and stuff like that, but they're a little bit hard to get through the syringe because it's oil, so it's a little... | ||
| You gotta warm it up for it to like go through the syringe quicker. | ||
| Because I put them in gel caps. | ||
| But this was before I started putting them in gel caps, right? | ||
| So I'm like about to hit myself with the dose, right? | ||
| And I'm pushing a little bit harder than I should. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| The whole damn thing goes in. | ||
| And I was on for the ride! | ||
| But I tell you, I had the best sleep of my life, and that's when I was like, okay, maybe I'll just take a little bit more. | ||
| So I start putting like 400 to 500 milligrams in the gel caps, and I'm popping them, and I'm like... | ||
| Full sleep, but you have to time them out proper. | ||
| For me, the way they hit me is I could take the RSO at like, let's just say 7 p.m., and I'll start feeling it around 11, 11.30. | ||
| And then by the time I go to sleep, boom, I'm good. | ||
| If I take it at 9, I don't feel it. | ||
| I'll go to sleep. | ||
| It'll hit me around 3 in the morning and wake me the fuck up and say, I'm here. | ||
| Like the RSO has arrived. | ||
| You'll go back to sleep, but when you wake up, You're gonna be high all that morning. | ||
| Like, I didn't even need to smoke. | ||
| The morning that that happened, I was like, I didn't even want to touch a joint. | ||
| I was still so fucking high that I was like, ah! | ||
| That's one of the problems with these kids today. | ||
| They're going too hard. | ||
| And they're gonna come up with a way to make it even more powerful. | ||
| You know they are. | ||
| All those psychobotanists are out there. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Fucking with the flowers. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I don't know what the real numbers are, because they say there was always really strong weed back in the day. | ||
| You just had to get really strong weed, but there was a lot of whack weed. | ||
| But now there's no wack weed. | ||
| There's very little wack weed. | ||
| I mean, it's still out there, but you would have to find it. | ||
| You gotta go looking for it. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta go looking for it. | ||
| They started selling a milder weed for some folks. | ||
| I've seen that, where people say, I just want a light weed. | ||
| Do you have anything that's light? | ||
| This is mild THC, which is probably strong. | ||
| You don't want to sell everybody moonshine. | ||
| Yeah, because everybody gets... | ||
| Well, people that ain't used to it, that they don't have the tolerance yet, they catch the anxieties and have a bad experience, and then they don't want it again. | ||
| And your bud tenders have to know this. | ||
| Bud tenders? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At the dispensaries, your bud tenders have to know this to explain this to somebody. | ||
| Ask them questions. | ||
| Is this your first time at a dispensary? | ||
| How are you... | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Ask the proper questions so that you don't blow this person out and ruin the experience. | ||
| And maybe if they're taking it because they don't want to do pharmaceuticals and they want to try using it for medicinal purposes, You don't want to, like, push them away from that because they're looking at this for an alternative. | ||
| And if you're just trying to blow them out and get them high and you're not even focused in on what they're there for, I mean, you lost someone, you know what I mean? | ||
| So it all boils down to education and the willingness to do that. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| You gotta train some of these, like, a lot of these dispensaries train their bud tenders in this, you know? | ||
| Yeah, there should be some sort of a certificate that you have to earn to know what the fuck it is. | ||
| You can't over-prescribe. | ||
| You gotta understand, like, sober people, too, who've never tried it before, like, oh, the dispensable, it's legal now, why don't I try it? | ||
| And they go in there, you don't blow their fucking head off in one shot. | ||
| And most people, like, if the bud tender is not educated in this way or just doesn't give a fuck and it's just a job and you're... | ||
| You know, you're not even really a smoker yourself. | ||
| They'll do that to somebody. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Because either they don't know or just they don't care. | ||
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Funsies. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| What would you tell someone if they were sane, no mental health problems, never tried any edibles before? | ||
| Would you say like 10 milligrams? | ||
| 10 milligrams. | ||
| That's good, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's perfect. | ||
| That's like, ooh. | ||
| Because they're going to feel it, but it's not going to be overwhelming. | ||
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Right. | |
| Why? | ||
| It's a comforting little hug from marijuana. | ||
| Like, hey, friend. | ||
| When you get used to that, bump it up to 20. 20, though, can get slippery. | ||
| 20 can get slippery. | ||
| That's why you've got to build your tolerance to that. | ||
| I remember they used to have those breath strips. | ||
| Remember the breath strips? | ||
| I took one with Tommy, Tom Segura, and he was almost gonna tell... | ||
| By the time the plane was taken off, he was already gone. | ||
| And he was almost gonna tell them to stop the plane. | ||
| He wanted to get off. | ||
| He said he was fighting the earth to tell them to stop the plane. | ||
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I'm like, oh my god, thank god you didn't. | |
| Imagine if you go, I gotta get off this plane. | ||
| Sometimes people are that close to losing it. | ||
| But by the time we landed, wherever the fuck we were going, I think we were going to New York. | ||
| Somewhere it was a long flight. | ||
| By the time we landed, he was okay. | ||
| But it was, you know, he was like, dude. | ||
| He looked over at me, he goes, that was touch and go. | ||
| I almost told him to stop the plane. | ||
| I go, no! | ||
| You could go to the uncomfortable levels. | ||
| This is for sure. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| Meanwhile, I was on a plane once, and I gave something to Jon Jones, and he took two of them. | ||
| And just smiled. | ||
| I go, don't take both of them at once. | ||
| He goes... | ||
| God damn it, Jon Jones. | ||
| We were all just on that plane, but Jon was smiling. | ||
| But I guess when you're the baddest motherfucker on earth, what do you got to worry about? | ||
| What do you got to worry about? | ||
| He's having the time of his life. | ||
| Hey, you think that fight's going to happen with him? | ||
| Yes, with Cyril Gaon. | ||
| Man, that's going to be something. | ||
| That's in March. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sad that he's not fighting Francis Ngannou, but I'm happy he's fighting Cyril Gaon. | ||
| I'm happy to see him back, and I'm happy to see that fight. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| Legit heavyweight who's a dynamic striker. | ||
| That Cyril Gan guy is fucking deadly. | ||
| He's sick with it, man. | ||
| He's so good as a striker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His striking is so beautiful. | ||
| Have you watched that knockout of Tai Tuivasa? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you see that fight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| Dude, and Tai Tuivasa was throwing hammers, too. | ||
| I mean, Tai was firing back, too. | ||
| And for a big guy, he's light on his feet. | ||
| He can move. | ||
| His footwork is really good. | ||
| It's very different. | ||
| He's very different than any other heavyweight in the UFC. He's really light on his feet, and he attacks a lot with his front leg. | ||
| He stabs you in the stomach with his front leg. | ||
| He does it from a weird stance, too. | ||
| He stands sideways, and then when he throws his front kick, it's almost like a twisting kick. | ||
| He twists out and stabs you in the stomach. | ||
| So he's totally sideways, but he can still front kick you. | ||
| It's almost like a karate type of technique or something, right? | ||
| In Taekwondo, they had a twisting kick. | ||
| You would do it like that. | ||
| Not very many people got real good at it. | ||
| It wasn't a staple. | ||
| Yeah, it's an outward... | ||
| Yeah, it's a weird twist. | ||
| You can land it. | ||
| Guys have landed it and knocked people out with it. | ||
| It's awkward. | ||
| Because you're throwing a kick. | ||
| Instead of throwing it up and straight, you're throwing it at a right angle with your right leg. | ||
| But, um, he hits people in the stomach with that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| He does it all the time. | ||
| And he's the only one I've ever seen do it. | ||
| So, like, if you were in training camp with him, you'd probably have to adjust to that. | ||
| Like, oh, shit! | ||
| Like, when someone has, like, a really good front leg, it can fuck a lot of people up. | ||
| And as a heavyweight, he's probably got, like, one of the best front legs ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's going to be an interesting fight because of the way John attacks on that front leg too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| John's very good at chopping at those legs. | ||
| Yeah, the unorthodox kicks he lays down every now and then. | ||
| Also, John's wrestling is out of this world. | ||
| He took down Daniel Cormier. | ||
| That's all you need to know. | ||
| He took down Daniel Cormier. | ||
| That's a big fucking deal. | ||
| He's the baddest motherfucker out there. | ||
| That's what they say, right? | ||
| I'm just so curious to see him come back because you got to think three years out, building up his frame, becoming a heavyweight, doing it the right way, doing it slowly, getting accustomed to the extra mass. | ||
| Do you feel like he's doing like what Evander Holyfield did before he became a heavyweight? | ||
| Because Evander was a cruiserweight before he became a heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah, I believe Evander worked... | ||
| Did he work with Mackie Shilstone or was that the guy who worked with Leon Spinks? | ||
| There was a famous fitness trainer who worked with him. | ||
| Who bulked him out. | ||
| Bulked Evander up. | ||
| And they did it hardcore. | ||
| And a lot of people were criticizing it. | ||
| Because in the old school boxing mentality, you weren't supposed to lift weights. | ||
| Because lifting weights would slow you down. | ||
| And they thought that wasn't correct. | ||
| And it was like, now we know it's not correct. | ||
| But back then, fighters didn't lift weights. | ||
| Lee Haney trained him, too. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| But I don't think it was just Lee Haney. | ||
| There was this guy that he worked with that was famous. | ||
| Fred Hatfield overhauled... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that... | ||
| So it looks like Lee Haney definitely helped him. | ||
| Lee Haney definitely helped him. | ||
| And there was this other guy. | ||
| And then there was another guy that did it with Michael Spinks too. | ||
| I think that was Mackie Shilstone. | ||
| Same deal. | ||
| Michael Spinks was a light heavyweight champion. | ||
| Went up and beat Larry Holmes. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And that's how they did it. | ||
| It's crazy how they worked their way up like that. | ||
| Because Evander, you know, he was in there fighting monsters. | ||
| So was Mike. | ||
| When you think about how big those guys were in comparison to the guys they were fighting. | ||
| Dude, Mike in his prime was like 220. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean is with Mike would people forget everybody remembers the knockouts everybody remembers the destruction But people don't remember is the head movement and the foot movement was extraordinary his footwork extraordinary work was crazy It was almost like like almost like a martial artist if you look a hundred percent like the way that his twitch Muscle ability to like move his feet and shift. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| I mean almost like a guy who kicks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah Imagine if he had gotten in Oh my God. | ||
| To MMA. He would destroy everybody. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| He would have destroyed everybody. | ||
| There's certain guys that are just in their prime. | ||
| If he had gone to an MMA school with Customato, like the same dude, but an MMA school, like right now, oh my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Greatest ever dude. | ||
| Good luck stopping the power double from Mike Tyson. | ||
| Good luck stopping that fucking guillotine. | ||
| Good luck stopping those leg kicks. | ||
| You know what's crazy is guys like him are just different, like the way Shaq is different. | ||
| Like, a lot of them NBA centers, they can't move around like that, dude. | ||
| Right, for being so big. | ||
| Yeah, for being so big. | ||
| I mean, he was into martial arts, he was into breakdancing, and you gotta be agile for that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And athletic. | ||
| Guys like that with that kind of ability, man, it's different. | ||
| Dude, a lot of break dancers are crazy strong. | ||
| We had a big influx of break dancers into jiu-jitsu a while back with the Martinez brothers. | ||
| My friends Richie and Gio, they were these... | ||
| Crazy break dancers. | ||
| They can do wild shit with their body, man. | ||
| Spin around their hands and all that wild shit that those guys do requires incredible strength and body control. | ||
| And when those guys got into jiu-jitsu, man, they excelled so quickly. | ||
| Because even though they look like regular people, they've got crazy farmer strength. | ||
| It's real similar. | ||
| Yeah, there's this guy from France. | ||
| His name is B-Boy Jr., right? | ||
| And this dude, like, amazes people with the type of strength he's got. | ||
| Like, he's got this move where he could lift his back legs and they're moving, and he's on his fingertips. | ||
| You know how, like, people do those three-finger push-ups? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's lifting his whole damn body up off the ground, and he's... | ||
| Like it's amazing people like is this dude alien or what but what is his name b-boy jr? | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| Look at this guy. | ||
| Oh my god How? | ||
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Look at that. | |
| So what we're looking at is a guy who goes he goes from lying on his stomach to Pulling his body weight off the fingertips and going into a standing handstand watch that again How much strength is involved in doing that? | ||
| And then throws his legs all the way back, backwards until they almost touch the ground, then spins around. | ||
| There's this one clip where he looks like Patrick Beverly. | ||
| But he does the wildest move. | ||
| Dude, if this guy got into jiu-jitsu, he would dominate people. | ||
| Guaranteed. | ||
| He would dominate. | ||
| He would get good at it so quick. | ||
| Yeah, look at this guy. | ||
| Just to have that kind of physical ability with your body. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| He held that. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Insane, yeah. | ||
| And, I mean, it's more extreme even than, like, yoga, but, like, a lot of jiu-jitsu guys after Hickson, they got into yoga. | ||
| Hickson was, like, the first guy that was, like, really into yoga that was also, like, a jiu-jitsu champion. | ||
| He was doing different things, man. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He was super agile. | ||
| And he was doing this workout in Santa Monica. | ||
| And I think there's a video of him on the beach. | ||
| And he's doing, like, rings and balance bars. | ||
| And he's doing, like, a standing split on a balance bar. | ||
| And he's a professional strangulation artist. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| One finger. | ||
| This one. | ||
| This is the thing. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| What? | ||
| That guy did it too. | ||
| He's like, it's not that hard. | ||
| Well, he did it for a second. | ||
| That dude held it. | ||
| Yeah, the way he can hold his moves, man, he's just crazy. | ||
| The agility is insane. | ||
| But that's a thing that people don't appreciate enough about breaking. | ||
| They think about breakdances like silly kids out there with their music spinning around on their butts. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It's serious. | ||
| Go to Stance Elements Instagram page and you'll see the greatest ones that are doing it today. | ||
| I think it's amazing that they're finally making that an Olympic sport. | ||
| They should. | ||
| I mean, they should. | ||
| These guys are incredible. | ||
| Look, this is the one I'm talking about. | ||
| This is the one I'm talking about. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| What we're looking at is a guy standing on his hands with his feet parallel to the floor behind him. | ||
| The fact that he can do that, this is insane. | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| I mean, you have to be so physically elite to be able to pull that off. | ||
| It's a sport. | ||
| People have connected it to just being... | ||
| They're athletes. | ||
| Yeah, they are athletes. | ||
| They're entertainment athletes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| When did that happen? | ||
| I believe it's slated to go into the Olympics for this next run. | ||
| When did these guys become this athletic? | ||
| Because it didn't used to always be like that, right? | ||
| I think as every art form evolves, I think they just started challenging themselves and trying different things and seeing what cats were doing on the gymnastic floor. | ||
| Trying to figure out how do I develop these new moves and stuff like that. | ||
| And just trying to take it to a new level. | ||
| And I think they discovered within that They could do these power type moves as a part of it because you didn't see a lot of the freezing that you see now where he's pausing and holding that up, you know, it was all about the movement on the floor like the spins to the head the hands and You know up up top when you're doing a 1990 or whatever you see a lot of that in the combinations But now you're seeing more strength Along with those combinations. | ||
| It's a mixture of the combinations you see of the aerial moves or the floor moves into a power move that he did on his fingers like that. | ||
| That's the shit they're adding now. | ||
| Like, where before it was all just combinations. | ||
| There was no... | ||
| Power style moves like that that existed and I don't know where it came from man I just I just know that like you see the way that they do this they just they The fact that they they kept it going There was no place to go but evolve and do some different things and what were you just showing us Jamie? | ||
| He had polio when he was a kid. | ||
| That same guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| He's turned his disability into an advantage he says He said he contracted polio when he was three years old. | ||
| The difference between me and the other kids became evident when I realized that I couldn't run as fast as them, but I've never given in. | ||
| I focused on sports like table tennis and boxing. | ||
| And when I played football, I was the goalkeeper. | ||
| Whenever people would make me feel like I couldn't do something, I worked extra hard to prove them wrong. | ||
| And then he became this freak street dancer. | ||
| That's unbelievable. | ||
| That's that human spirit. | ||
| That's unbelievable. | ||
| Because what he can do is insane. | ||
| It doesn't even make sense. | ||
| Like, you just go, where? | ||
| How does someone move their body like that? | ||
| How the fuck do you go all the way back and then forward? | ||
| But those guys got into jiu-jitsu, man. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Wrestling, jiu-jitsu, any of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Their abilities are crazy, and you know, it's great that they're finally getting recognized for that, like by, you know, putting them into the Olympics somewhere, you know? | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| I mean, it's so wild to watch, too. | ||
| It's so easily recognizable how impressive it is. | ||
| It's not like you have to know anything. | ||
| Like, you know, you just watch what they're doing physically, and you're like, oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of great... | ||
| Great guys doing this right now. | ||
| There's this dude named B-Boy Pocket from South Korea. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We've talked about him on the podcast. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| He is crazy. | ||
| I put him on my Instagram page. | ||
| It doesn't even make sense. | ||
| His legs look like baseball bats just whipping around when he does his moves. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pull up some of that dude stuff. | ||
| His stuff is it doesn't even make sense like how he's able to move his body. | ||
| It's like he's defying gravity. | ||
| Yeah, how do you not put this in the Olympics? | ||
| Look how he's spinning around without without his feet touching the ground. | ||
| Yeah, that's insane. | ||
| He's on his fingertips. | ||
| It's nuts like the kind of strength involved in something like that is It just spun around his head 30 times He's gonna wear a bald spot on his head for sure, right? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's fucked. | ||
| Yeah, dude, you're gonna wear your head out. | ||
| Hey, this guy, he's got so much ferocity in his moves, man. | ||
| Like, when you see other people do these combos, they're not as fast as his. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The way he does it almost seems impossible. | ||
| I would assume this is animated. | ||
| I'm like, this is AI. This is an AI person. | ||
| People can't move like that. | ||
| It's like when you see a CGI kung fu movie and someone's flying through the air. | ||
| That's what that looks like. | ||
| Outside the realm of the possible for humans. | ||
| It looks like it's effects. | ||
| That's how good that guy is. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy because that that art form really did sort of emerge from like when was the first break dancers? | ||
| When was it in the late 80s? | ||
| I think it was 70... | ||
| First break dancers? | ||
| The first break dancers were 77 maybe, 78. Really? | ||
| Between 78 and 79 maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know it's it's late 70s. | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| Into the 80s. | ||
| It's um... | ||
| If you look at this movie called Wild Style, it documents that. | ||
| And there's another one, I think, called Style Wars that documents that. | ||
| I don't know when those came out, but I know that it's been around from the late 70s, right at the birth of when they used to throw the parties at the park. | ||
| I think it's the Bronx and the other boroughs, like Queens. | ||
| There was cats getting down back then. | ||
| It just wasn't documented. | ||
| Interesting and so what kind of music were they dancing to back then? | ||
| I think it was breaks like from what like when they explain it in some of the hip-hop documentaries is that guys like Cool Herc and in Grandmaster Flash and the other DJs that were like the Kings of the boroughs in the DJs they were taking like R&B records that had breaks that were like like To them, that was the best part of the song. | ||
| All the rest was shit, but this part is dope. | ||
| So they would go and find these breaks and cut these breaks in the party, and people would dance to these breaks. | ||
| And then, you know, the B-boy shit was birthed from that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This dude is doing this in 1898. He's a headspin. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| He's gonna do a headspin. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| But how do we know that that's the first time anybody did that? | ||
| How do we know that Court Jester didn't do that? | ||
| It could have been. | ||
| It could be anybody. | ||
| Look at his body control. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| This guy's body control is insane. | ||
| One of them contortionists. | ||
| But no, just the ability to go back and forth like that. | ||
| You have to be so strong to be able to do that. | ||
| So that was 1898? | ||
| That was 1898. It says 1877. There's a quote of a young man quite alone who was practicing over and over the most inexplicable leap in the air. | ||
| He swung himself up and then round on his hand for a point when his upper leg described a great circle. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So that was breaking too. | ||
| Well, it makes sense that people have tried to move that way. | ||
| But moving that way to music in an organized setting, like these breakdancing events, that's what's really cool about it. | ||
| That's the emerging thing. | ||
| And that's what's interesting to me. | ||
| I like watching people get better at stuff. | ||
| I like watching the early ones. | ||
| Even that guy, as impressive as he was, if he saw B-Boy Pocket Cam, he'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| How are you moving like that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even the guy from 1898 could do wild shit that I can't do. | ||
| He would be blown away. | ||
| Where can they go? | ||
| How much better can they get at that? | ||
| It's one of those things where they just gotta try to innovate new moves. | ||
| The way Tony Hawk would innovate when he brought out the 900, right? | ||
| And guys like that, they're constantly pushing To create a different combination, different move that no one's seen or a freeze or a strength move like that guy with the two fingers and he's like stuck like that. | ||
| I mean, you know, to top that. | ||
| Some guy could probably hold it for half a second but holding it as long as he did. | ||
| You know you got to come up with something to top that because like how do you top that? | ||
| How do you top that? | ||
| You got to be as strong if not stronger and come up with something completely different which you know they managed to do. | ||
| Yeah if you just like let them be creative they'll come up with new stuff. | ||
| Just over time, one guy figures out a move, another guy figures out a better way to do that move, and then they're all innovating and feed off each other. | ||
| It's amazing art for them. | ||
| I love watching it. | ||
| I watch it on Instagram all the time. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It's a combination of athletics and art. | ||
| It's like gymnastics. | ||
| It's almost the same thing. | ||
| I mean, you're running around to a routine and doing the flips and the tumbles and all that stuff, and they work their floor routine to the music. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And same thing with the figure skating and all that stuff. | ||
| I mean, breakdancing is just as incredible, if not more. | ||
| Oh, yeah, just as incredible, easily. | ||
| Figure skating's pretty nuts. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| I mean, I'm not interested in trying it, but it looks pretty fucking insane. | ||
| Like, spinning through the air and landing on your skates and sliding around. | ||
| I mean, that is 100% a sport. | ||
| Hours of work to get any of that down. | ||
| So, you know, but you gotta think. | ||
| Um... | ||
| The guys that do the B-boy shit, it takes them hours to get all that down and to get those moves down and get those combinations down and having the strength to actually pull it all off. | ||
| I'm just glad that they're finally getting theirs because it's a great art form that was derived from hip-hop and to see it now, it's like a world sport. | ||
| It's pretty dope. | ||
| That's dope. | ||
| It is dope. | ||
| Yeah, it's just amazing that we watched it. | ||
| We watched it emerge. | ||
| You know, also with hip hop, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I remember when I was a kid when Sugar Hill Gang first came out. | ||
| I was in middle school and I remember I was in the cafeteria and I was hearing, to the hip hop, hibbit to the hibbit to hip hop. | ||
| And I was like, what is this? | ||
| Like, wow, this is crazy. | ||
| You know, it's dope that the Grammys just recently celebrated the 50 years of hip-hop, because it's now the birthday of hip-hop, I guess, this year, this month, that it's been 50 years. | ||
| And... | ||
| Yeah, they left a lot of groups out, but I thought the representation was pretty cool, like that they started with the actual pioneers of this, you know, and seeing Run DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 and Rakim and all those guys do their thing and be celebrated. | ||
| That was kind of cool. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| People forget about EPMD. Some of the bangers they had. | ||
| They had bangers. | ||
| Public Enemy. | ||
| Public Enemy looked really good when it came out with Chuck and Flav on that celebration. | ||
| That was dope. | ||
| And Busta Rhyme. | ||
| He fucking killed it. | ||
| I gotta say. | ||
| Yeah, it was pretty dope. | ||
| You know who I love? | ||
| I bring him up every time I can. | ||
| Cool G Rap. | ||
| Cool G Rap. | ||
| Dude, I loved that guy. | ||
| He was one of my favorites. | ||
| When I was a kid in the 90s, when I just moved to New York, that's when I found out about Cool G Rap. | ||
| I was like, this dude. | ||
| He had one of the dopest rap styles. | ||
| I mean, a lot of styles were birthed from his. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he don't get enough flowers on that, as they say. | ||
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| He was amazing. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| Funny raps, too. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Cockblocking. | ||
| Cock blocking is a funny fucking song, man. | ||
| That's a funny song. | ||
| He also did something with the Brand New Heavies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you ever hear that collaboration? | ||
| Yeah, I believe I did. | ||
| I don't remember the name of it. | ||
| The Brand New Heavies did a collaboration with a lot of hip-hop artists, and they did one of them with Cool G Rap. | ||
| One of the songs was... | ||
| So it's like you got the Brand New Heavies music, but then Cool G... Heavy Rhyme Experience. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| This is fucking badass, dude. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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Some think that I'm a flake, but I'm no fake nigga, cause I take a bitch, make a man with your burners ass at the stake, with the 44 mag, it's so simple, put it to his temple, fuck how'd I give a nigga permanent dibble? | |
| People forgot about Cool G-Rap. | ||
| They forget. | ||
| How do you forget about this guy? | ||
| Give me a little bit more of that. | ||
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Brand new headsets on the tracks, G-Rap on a wax coat, bummer got motherfuckers doing jumping jacks, you motherfuckers lost it, I'll bake your ass like a cake, and all your flakes get frosted, cause when G-Rap is on the mix, niggas start shitting, He was amazing, man. | |
| He was one of the baddest in that time when he came out. | ||
| Him, Big Daddy Kane, LL, and Rakim. | ||
| Those guys were the sickest in their style flips, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Coogee Rap, man. | ||
| One of the baddest. | ||
| It was a great time. | ||
| That's a great time for rap. | ||
| I mean, think about 90s for hip-hop. | ||
| Think about all the artists that came in. | ||
| Nas and Wu-Tang and how many great artists came out of the 90s for hip-hop. | ||
| So many, man. | ||
| My God! | ||
| Brand newbies. | ||
| My God! | ||
| They had some good shit. | ||
| Man, there were so many. | ||
| Tribe Called Quest, CL Smooth and Pete Rock. | ||
| When did Dead Prez start? | ||
| I'm not sure of the year. | ||
| I believe it was in the 90s, though. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But there's so many. | ||
| Ice-T started in the 80s, right? | ||
| Because he was a part of the original wave. | ||
| Yeah, I believe he was in 84, maybe? | ||
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I think 84. Ice-T, he was at the Grammys? | |
| Yeah, he did really well, too. | ||
| He did Hustler. | ||
| Nice! | ||
| And he looks sharp! | ||
| Look at the man! | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| Still going! | ||
| Bro, hilarious that the guy who wrote a song called Cop Killer has been playing a cop on TV longer than any human being has ever done! | ||
| The irony! | ||
| The fucking irony! | ||
| I love that! | ||
| Remember when he was in Body Count, people forget that Ice-T is also a fan of heavy metal. | ||
| What kind of metal would you call that? | ||
| I think it's like punk and metal. | ||
| I think he listened to both. | ||
| I think he was listening to metal and punk, but I think as it relates to Body Count, it's more... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It depends who you ask, because some people would say it's punk and some people think it's more metal. | ||
| So he has that, but then he also has like 6 in the morning. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| 6 in the morning was like... | ||
| That was a classic. | ||
| Classic! | ||
| That's still a banger right now. | ||
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That's a banger! | |
| You hear 6 in the morning? | ||
| Like, that just brings back memories. | ||
| It was crazy that the song that influenced that was from a rapper named Schooly D based out of Philly and he had a thing called PSK and so that 6 in the morning was a play from PSK which was actually the first gangster song in hip-hop but the first West Coast gangster song was the 6 in the morning See, | ||
| it's the same style beat. | ||
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| And then he says a phrase that's kind of... | ||
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Yeah, Schooly D was the shit. | |
| But this is where it was birthed. | ||
| And then, you know, for six... | ||
| What year is this? | ||
| 85. 85. Wow. | ||
| I was a senior in high school. | ||
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I was 15. Bro, I'm old now. | |
| What the hell does that mean? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Alright, now give me six in the morning. | ||
| Find iced tea at six in the morning, please. | ||
| And then after six... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which was a playoff diss. | ||
| Oh, wow, that's similar. | ||
| Yeah, that does have a similar beat. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Hey, yo, man, you remember that shit? | ||
| Easy did a while back, motherfucker said it wasn't gonna work. | ||
| It rides that line. | ||
| The difference is on the West Coast shit, we use more 808 like that. | ||
| The bass-driven shit, because that was more L.A. Like, in L.A. at that time, you'd see cats riding around with sound systems bumping. | ||
| And so, when guys like Dr. Dre were making, you know, when they were producing, they were adding that bass in there, that 808, so that people can feel that shit in their system. | ||
| How many times does a dude come up to you and went insane in the membrane? | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| Is it countable? | ||
| Almost everywhere we go, if I catch eye contact. | ||
| And sometimes if I don't catch eye contact, they'll wait for me to walk by and then they'll sing it. | ||
| Or they'll call me Cypress. | ||
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Yo, Cypress! | |
| That's been my name in New York for a long time. | ||
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Yo, Cypress! | |
| Because sometimes they don't know all of our names, but they know what group we're in, so they won't say, hey, be real, or Dr. Green. | ||
| Yo, Cypress! | ||
| Let's crack it! | ||
| That's kind of awesome, though. | ||
| I got a lot of names. | ||
| Man, I remember when you guys first came out, I was like, this is a totally new kind of sound. | ||
| You guys had a totally new kind of sound. | ||
| I remember I found out about it. | ||
| I wasn't even into weed back then. | ||
| I was like, why is this weed symbol everywhere? | ||
| What are these guys doing? | ||
| These rappers with weed? | ||
| What the hell's happening over there? | ||
| But I remember listening. | ||
| I'm like, this is it. | ||
| You guys had a completely different kind of sound. | ||
| Yeah, you know, the thing was is that Muggs was from New York. | ||
| He was from Flushing. | ||
| So a lot of his influence was from New York. | ||
| You know, his favorite production was like the Bomb Squad, which were producing Public Enemy and all their shit. | ||
| They had like some of the most complex production at the time with bridges and brakes and these crazy sounds and stuff like that. | ||
| So, you know, that's what Muggs got down with. | ||
| Now, when he moved out here and we start hanging out, he's introducing us to New York music, you know, hip-hop music that we heard. | ||
| We heard some of it via the radio on KDAY, an AM station that was playing a lot of hip-hop in the mix, and some of it mixed with R&B and soul throughout the day. | ||
| So, This is where we got our first introduction to hip-hop, but Muggs being from New York, whenever he'd go back, he'd come back with new records and he'd introduce us to stuff like that. | ||
| And so when it came time to working on an album, he had all that influence. | ||
| And being from New York and absorbing all that culture, it sounded sort of like New York-style production. | ||
| Mixed with a little bit of LA influence, especially with, you know, what Sen and I were kicking in terms of vocals, because we were using a combination of LA and New York slang, you know, merged as one. | ||
| So that's why a lot of people were confused, like, where are these guys from? | ||
| You ask people in New York, they thought we were from East New York, and they were from Cypress Hills, New York. | ||
| And people that were from LA, they were like, well, wait a minute, they kind of sound West Coast-ish. | ||
| I think they're from out here. | ||
| But they didn't really know until we came out and said, you know, yeah, we're from LA. Our boy's from New York, and we're sort of a bridge, you know, between LA and New York with the sound. | ||
| So... | ||
| Yeah, it was always a New York-influenced sound because, I mean, that's where it was from. | ||
| But I think that's what added to us being different because most things that were coming out of Los Angeles in that time or Southern California sounded like gangster rap, sounded like a version of N.W.A. or Compton's Most Wanted or something like that. | ||
| And we wanted to be different. | ||
| We didn't want to be in that lane. | ||
| We felt that was their lane. | ||
| We need to make our own. | ||
| So we didn't want to sound like anything else that was in Cali. | ||
| We didn't get signed by a California label, whether it was Sony or any of it. | ||
| We got turned down here because we didn't sound like we were from California. | ||
| Isn't that funny? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How short-sighted people are. | ||
| And it turned out that our... | ||
| We call him Uncle Joe. | ||
| Joe the Butcher, who was based out of Philly... | ||
| He had his label with Rough House with Chris Swartz. | ||
| He had worked with Muggs on an album when Muggs was in a group called 783. He knew Muggs' potential. | ||
| He liked Muggs. | ||
| He saw that he was evolving as a producer. | ||
| He heard about our thing and he wanted to take a chance on us. | ||
| Where we were getting turned down from every goddamn label in LA. Isn't that funny? | ||
| They just didn't understand us. | ||
| You guys are talking about weed? | ||
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Ha ha ha! | |
| How does this make sense? | ||
| You got any other songs? | ||
| We're like, no, we're cool. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
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I want to get high. | |
| So high. | ||
| They're eating lunch, listening to a song about getting high. | ||
| They're like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| Or no, we didn't even have that song yet. | ||
| We were talking about the Get High song on there was Light Another and something else. | ||
| But Light Another was the main one. | ||
| And we're talking about it. | ||
| That's one of the demos that played. | ||
| You could see the execs just scratching their head like, what do we do with this? | ||
| Isn't it funny that everybody wants everything to be cookie cutter? | ||
| The idea that rap didn't even exist a few decades prior, right? | ||
| It wasn't even a common thing, and now all of a sudden it's huge, and they can't see that maybe there's another branch of this. | ||
| It's funny that they wouldn't recognize how good it is. | ||
| That's what's weird. | ||
| What it is is they don't want to take a chance on trying to develop it because if it fails, it's on their back. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So they want something that's easy that, like, oh, this sounds like this. | ||
| We can market it in this lane. | ||
| This is already a successful template. | ||
| Let's use this. | ||
| Oh, they're not using that shit. | ||
| We can't do nothing with it. | ||
| So, you know, like, it's the development. | ||
| And fortunately, you know, when we got assigned to Rough House Columbia, we had the power of Columbia backing us up Because they sort of believed in what we were doing. | ||
| Well, they, not sort of believed, they believed in what we were doing and got behind it and allowed us to be as creative as we wanted to be and pushed us. | ||
| And, you know, along with having Joe and Chris on our side creatively, like, pushing our line and saying, hey, these guys are doing great. | ||
| We don't want to intervene and, you know, change anything they're doing. | ||
| Just let them fucking go. | ||
| I mean, that was everything because, you know, most of the time they want an easy layup. | ||
| So if, let's just say, you know, there's a group over here that's doing well, hey, how come, why don't we make a record like this over here? | ||
| It's like, well, why don't you go sign that shit over there? | ||
| This is not who we are. | ||
| So, you know, they want you to make it easy. | ||
| But realistically, it's nothing good is ever easy. | ||
| You got to work toward it and develop it. | ||
| Unfortunately, you know, we got on the team that that believed in that. | ||
| And man, it was the biggest fuck you to all those that turned us down and didn't get what we were doing. | ||
| They got it now. | ||
| Y'all got it now, right? | ||
| You got it now. | ||
| I can't understand how they didn't get it in the beginning. | ||
| But I do, because it's like that in comedy, too. | ||
| Especially during the 90s, they were trying to fit everybody into the sitcom dad role, or the sitcom boyfriend role. | ||
| You wanted to be on Friends or you wanted to be on something like that. | ||
| That's all you wanted to do. | ||
| So that's when everybody was trying to form their comedy for that. | ||
| One series hits and then the other networks see it and try to develop something similar to it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's why there was so many like the ERs and the St. Elsewhere's and all the hospital driven TV shows. | ||
| Dude, people love a good hospital drama. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Was the George Clooney one? | ||
| The Githick ER. That was ER. Yeah. | ||
| They cannot lose. | ||
| Can't lose. | ||
| Can't lose. | ||
| The drama. | ||
| She's gonna make it. | ||
| She's gonna make it! | ||
| And then you feel good. | ||
| You go to sleep. | ||
| It's something that has worked for Hollywood for so long that they dare not change it. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| What works better? | ||
| Cop shows were pretty good. | ||
| People love a good solve a crime show. | ||
| There's so many of those. | ||
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There's a lot of those! | |
| There's no lack of those. | ||
| No lack of Law and Orders. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just fucking Law and Order petty gambling edition. | ||
| You know, they have so many editions of Law and Order. | ||
| Special Victims Unit, and how many more do they have? | ||
| Man, I don't know. | ||
| How many Law& Orders? | ||
| I'm thinking of CSIs. | ||
| They got CSIs in a bunch of different cities. | ||
| Yeah, I think there's like six or seven franchises of those in the Law& Order close to the same. | ||
| Bro, they can show hardcore shit on TV now. | ||
| I watched one of those CSI shows and they were dealing with this autopsy and I was like, Jesus Christ, this is regular TV? It's wild what people's access to things like HBO and Netflix, what it's done to regular TV. They'll show gore and violence now. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
| I was like, I was looking at this like, when I was a kid, if a guy got shot on TV, they didn't even have blood. | ||
| It was more suggestive, yeah. | ||
| It was like six million dollar man violence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, people get shot, bang, bang, oh! | ||
| And the guy would just fall over dead, and you just, you didn't need to see the blood. | ||
| Bro, that CSI show, they're showing holes in people, and like, whoa! | ||
| Oh, yeah, they'll show someone's head getting blown out real quick. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I guess they have to keep up, you know? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you got to. | ||
| If you're gonna watch hyper-violent movies, the hyper-violent movies that you can get in the movies are on television. | ||
| They're so crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you have to keep up with that. | ||
| If you're gonna keep up with John Wick... | ||
| Yeah, how do you keep up with John Wick? | ||
| His body count. | ||
| On a TV show! | ||
| This fucking guy's body count is crazy. | ||
| The movie makes the least amount of sense. | ||
| He's the nice guy, serial killer assassin who can't be stopped. | ||
| And everybody roots for him. | ||
| And he just wants to live in peace. | ||
| And he's so handsome. | ||
| He's so handsome. | ||
| You just want him to win. | ||
| You want him to find love. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they took it away from him. | ||
| They won't give it to him. | ||
| Total number of John Wick kills in all three movies. | ||
| John Wick has now killed a total of 299 people on screen. | ||
| That's more than the combined total of Jason Voorhees in all the Friday the 13th movies. | ||
| He is the real serial killer. | ||
| Bro, he's killed... | ||
| And that's all the people he killed after he retired from killing people for the Russian mob. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where they said he killed three men in a bar with a pencil. | ||
| Yeah, it's not even counting the other guys. | ||
| And Michael Myers. | ||
| And Michael Myers! | ||
| And all the Halloween movies! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's so ridiculous. | ||
| I thought it would have been Arnold or, you know, Stallone that got the highest body counts. | ||
| It's crazy that we're rooting for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're rooting for him to kill everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They all deserve it. | ||
| They all deserve it. | ||
| All these fucks should get it. | ||
| They killed his puppy. | ||
| They killed his puppy and they stole his car. | ||
| Everyone's gonna die. | ||
| You can't touch someone's dog or car, man. | ||
| Don't fucking steal someone's car and don't kill their dog. | ||
| That's rude. | ||
| Those are against the rules. | ||
| That's rude! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, fuck. | ||
| Imagine being that Russian mobster. | ||
| That's the wrong dude. | ||
| Wrong dude. | ||
| That's why it's such a great movie. | ||
| It's like the Hulk like you you know, you made him mad now all of a sudden he's unstoppable every yeah, everybody's like oh you fucked with yeah That's everybody want that's what people love. | ||
| They love this like one person that can't be stopped Yeah, you know in some way whether it's because of the Hulk like he's got some fucking genetic thing They zapped him with rays and change his body. | ||
| Yeah, he gets angry. | ||
| He turns into a giant green dude. | ||
| Oh Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's the same thing when they were running Stone Cold Steve Austin on the WWE. His character or his persona was that you could not stop Stone Cold. | ||
| Can't stop him. | ||
| And people loved it. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Can't stop him. | ||
| Yeah, you can't stop Stone Cold. | ||
| The most ridiculous thing about the Hulk is his pants. | ||
| He never loses his pants. | ||
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This dude is gigantic. | |
| His pants somehow... | ||
| He's so much bigger than Bruce Banner. | ||
| Bruce Banner is like a little unassuming scientist who's built like Ben Shapiro and then all of a sudden he turns into that guy and the pants somehow still fit. | ||
| How the fuck? | ||
| How the fuck do you not see that giant green dick? | ||
| Those pants would pop off just the same way a shirt would. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Somebody needs to do a new version of the Hulk with a giant green dick like Dr. Manhattan has in the Watchmen. | ||
| Primal Hulk. | ||
| Look, it wasn't that long ago where the Watchmen, you were allowed to see Dr. Manhattan's dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the Watchmen, you saw a full blue dick. | ||
| Yeah, it was graphic. | ||
| And he's built like the Hulk. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| You can see his dick, but you can't see the Hulk's dick. | ||
| What is it, Marvel, right? | ||
| The idea that his shirt explodes, but his pants stay fine and he can move around on him, no problem. | ||
| What the fuck are you selling me? | ||
| I don't think they knew the way around. | ||
| They didn't know the way around that one. | ||
| Like, how do we? | ||
| It is the dumbest fucking thing of all time. | ||
| I mean, even if he's wearing yoga pants, those fucking shits are gonna fly apart. | ||
| That shit's gonna rip. | ||
| It's gonna rip. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| Look how big he is. | ||
| He's 500 fucking pounds. | ||
| Yeah, he's five times the size of the regular motherfucker that he is before he blows up. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| It's the dumbest thing. | ||
| We're so afraid of that giant green dick. | ||
| He's wearing stretchy pants. | ||
| People are willing to suspend disbelief. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Pants are fine. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| People will say ridiculous shit like, well, how could he turn into such a big thing? | ||
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There's not enough molecules in his body to expand to that extent. | |
| Where is he getting the actual physical tools to get bigger? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What about his pants? | ||
| That's more ridiculous. | ||
| What about his pants, yeah. | ||
| The pants are more ridiculous. | ||
| Do his pants have the same thing he got? | ||
| It does make sense that something couldn't just get big, though. | ||
| How could he just get big? | ||
| This is a debate that's gone on and on. | ||
| Well, let me give you my point. | ||
| How could he get big? | ||
| He's not getting anything into his body. | ||
| There's no food. | ||
| How do the cells grow? | ||
| Are you just drinking water and growing a plant? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| How are you getting bigger? | ||
| How do you get bigger? | ||
| There's a mass. | ||
| Where's the mass come from? | ||
| How does it go back to normal? | ||
| It's so dumb, but the pants are the dumbest. | ||
| The pants are the dumbest thing. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| Meanwhile, it's my favorite superhero. | ||
| Yeah, they just can't get his movie right. | ||
| His solo movie, they got it with Ruffalo when he's in the ensemble, but they still haven't managed to get the hit with the Hulk by itself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They had a couple different tries. | ||
| They had the Ed Norton try. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They had before that that other dude, the Australian. | ||
| Eric Bonner. | ||
| Eric Bonner. | ||
| They did it. | ||
| And then as time went on, they got better with the CGI. Yeah. | ||
| And they got better at making it look real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Better at, you know, but it's still. | ||
| The problem with the Avengers is, I would just call the Hulk. | ||
| If I was that dude, Hawkeye, with the bow and arrow, I'd be like, what am I doing out here? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I just have a bow and arrow. | ||
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That's all. | |
| I'm just kind of mildly acrobatic and have a bow and arrow. | ||
| Call the Hulk! | ||
| He got special bow and arrows. | ||
| Bro, you call the Hulk. | ||
| You call the Hulk? | ||
| Call the Hulk. | ||
| He fucking stops the world. | ||
| He punches the world and stops it from spinning. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| You call the guy with the arrows or the guy... | ||
| Yeah, call the guy that punches the spaceship in the face and smashes it to the ground. | ||
| That guy should just be dominating. | ||
| The indestructible one. | ||
| Just go behind him. | ||
| Just follow behind him. | ||
| Pick out whatever's wounded. | ||
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Hahaha! | |
| One of my boys got mad when they made him into, like, the Smart Hulk. | ||
| I got mad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of people got mad. | ||
| They don't want to see the Smart Hulk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Next thing you know, he's gonna be wearing a dress. | ||
| What they're doing is they're experimenting with these time-held characters that we love so dearly. | ||
| You can't just do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Re-flipping them like that is just too much. | ||
| It's rude. | ||
| Make a new character. | ||
| Don't make a Smart Hulk, you fuckers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not smart. | ||
| That's the whole point. | ||
| Yeah, he's enraged. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the idea that he would be smart and giant at the same time with the green skin and big ass glasses. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Yeah, like he's got the best of both worlds. | ||
| No! | ||
| No, he never did. | ||
| You can't have that. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| The Thing was a regular dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he had the mutation from space that turned him into the Thing, the big Rocky. | ||
| But he was a powerhouse. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But he was a regular dude underneath it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Hulk says Hulk smash. | ||
| He goes from being the smartest guy in the world to a dude with two-word sentences. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But it's fucking like the scene in the Hulk when he grabs Loki and he smashes him left and right like Loki who says he's a god and the Hulk grabs him and pile drives him into the concrete back and forth and back and forth and goes, puny man. | ||
| I mean, puny god, is that what he says? | ||
| Get this out of my face! | ||
| Stop it, Jamie! | ||
| This is not funny. | ||
| He's got a sweater. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's so handsome. | ||
| He's got a robe. | ||
| It's like a guy who's at the coffee shop. | ||
| Why does he have glasses on? | ||
| He's a fucking superpower. | ||
| You don't think his eyes are super-powered, too? | ||
| Yeah, why would the Hulk have glasses on? | ||
| Just to let us know that he's smart. | ||
| Now he's smart. | ||
| That's such an easy way out. | ||
| Hulk smart! | ||
| Yeah, you associate... | ||
| It wouldn't be better if he actually looked exactly like the original Hulk, and he could talk like a super smart guy, but he could turn it on or off. | ||
| So he could trick you. | ||
| So for everybody else, it's like, Hulk smash! | ||
| And then he gets you alone and he's like, hey dude, actually, I'm Bruce Banner now. | ||
|
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Crazy. | |
| But I figured out a way to be both at the same time. | ||
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I don't want to talk to anybody, so I'm gonna Hulk smash! | |
| That would have been a good strategy. | ||
| Find that Loki one where he smashes Loki. | ||
| It's like my favorite scene in any movie. | ||
| What he could do is so ridiculous. | ||
| He could fly by jumping. | ||
| So obviously you didn't watch that She-Hulk bullshit out there. | ||
| Was it bad? | ||
| I heard it was horrible. | ||
| I didn't see it. | ||
| I refuse. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| What's wrong with it? | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| Play it so you can hear what he says. | ||
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Come on, son. | |
| How do you not love that? | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| That's the one you want to see. | ||
| That's the one you want to see. | ||
| But the pants! | ||
| Those pants make no sense. | ||
| In what world... | ||
| You got special Avenger pants. | ||
| In what world can your 500-pound friend borrow your pants? | ||
| That scene would be even more terrifying with a giant green dick flopping around while he's beating that dude to death. | ||
| Yes it would. | ||
| It would be disturbing. | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Hopefully, you know, they make one that sticks that, you know, his own. | ||
| It's funny because we don't want new superheroes. | ||
| Notice that? | ||
| Like, you don't really get too many new superheroes. | ||
| Like, we kind of have enough superheroes, we're kind of done. | ||
| Yeah, not in the DC and Marvel universe, because, I mean, you know, it's been for so long and they developed so many characters to come up with new ones and try to put those over. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| Interesting, though, that they don't do that, right? | ||
| It's almost like a band that only plays their hits and doesn't play any new songs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because some bands, they'll tour 20 years after their last album and they'll just still have all those hits to choose from and they don't ever write new songs and the audiences love it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy because some audience don't want to hear the new shit. | ||
| They're like, what happened to this? | ||
| How come you're playing all this new shit? | ||
| It's a fine line to try to ride that, you know, and please. | ||
| Yeah, I had a friend who just went to see an artist and he said he was really disappointed because he didn't play any of his hits. | ||
| He was just only playing new stuff. | ||
| And he goes, the new stuff was great, but there's so many classics that they wanted to see him play and he didn't play any of them. | ||
| You gotta play the hits. | ||
| You gotta play them as much as you might not want to. | ||
| I mean, for us, we don't mind. | ||
| It's what made us who we were and who we are now. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You guys have some bangers, dude. | ||
| You gotta play them. | ||
| How I could just kill a man? | ||
| We'll find a way to mix new songs in there. | ||
| We just won't play so many of them until they start requesting them. | ||
| Hey, why don't you play this in the set? | ||
| You gotta let it organically find its place? | ||
| Yeah, you gotta let it find its place and let people say to you, like, hey man, how come you don't add this? | ||
| You guys always play this over here, but you never... | ||
| And then we might take that into consideration and be like, you know what, yeah, we should play that. | ||
| But... | ||
| Yeah, I've learned from watching others, like, when you don't play the popular songs in your, you know, the pantheon of your library, your musical library as an artist, man, they're gonna shit on you heavy. | ||
| Like, yo, man, how come you didn't play insane in the brain or whatever. | ||
| Like, you could not not play. | ||
| Yeah, you have to play that. | ||
| Because they feel punished. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I paid all this money to come see you and you didn't play that song. | ||
| It's like if you went to see Leonard Skinner and they didn't play Freebird. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| You'd be like, what the fuck? | ||
| You're losing your shit. | ||
| What the fuck was that show? | ||
| I went to a Steve Miller gig one time. | ||
| Because I was a Steve Miller fan. | ||
| I love Steve Miller. | ||
| I still am. | ||
| He's the most famous rock star that no one can recognize. | ||
| But I would not go see him. | ||
| For a minute, he looked like Russell Crowe when Russell Crowe played that whistleblower. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Look at that movie. | ||
| And the Insider? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| There goes Russell Crowe on guitar. | ||
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Dude! | |
| Dude, that's exactly him. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| I would swear that's Russell Crowe playing Steve Miller in a movie. | ||
| So I was at this Russell Crowe concert listening to Steve Miller. | ||
| No. | ||
| So I was at the Steve Miller concert at the Greek, I believe it was. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Look, tell me that doesn't look like fucking Russell Crowe. | ||
| So he's playing, and an hour goes by. | ||
| I haven't heard one fucking hit. | ||
| And it's like he had played a bunch of new shit in covers. | ||
| And then, you know, the hour and a half goes by, and finally he plays Fly Like an Eagle, right? | ||
| And I was like, okay, yeah, now we're starting to get somewhere, right? | ||
| And he's playing it. | ||
| And he has this keyboard player that looks like Billy Blanks. | ||
| You remember Billy Blanks. | ||
| Tybo Billy Blanks. | ||
| He's playing the keyboard. | ||
| And then all of a sudden he breaks off the keyboard. | ||
| And he's rapping Fly Like an Eagle. | ||
| I want to fly like a eagle. | ||
| I'm like, oh no. | ||
| What have you done? | ||
| What have you done to Superman? | ||
| I was like, nah, man. | ||
| What have you done to the Hulk? | ||
| You put glasses on the Hulk. | ||
| It was the glasses on the Hulk moment for me, right? | ||
| If he had brought out EPMD to rap over that. | ||
| Because they used that EPMD. I mean, they used that Steve Miller sample. | ||
| EPMD did something to that. | ||
| It would have made sense if they brought EPMD out. | ||
| That would have been acceptable. | ||
| But not your Taibo keyboard player. | ||
| That was not it. | ||
| Did he play Take the Money and Run? | ||
| He must have played that. | ||
| This is a story about Billy Joe and Bobby Sue. | ||
| I know all his songs. | ||
| He probably didn't play it till the second hour after I left. | ||
| Because after he played Fly Like an Eagle, he played another fucking cover. | ||
| And I was like, oh, hell no. | ||
| I'm sorry, Steve Miller. | ||
| I'm out of here. | ||
| Because he waited till the second half to play any of the good shit. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he just, he held it too long. | ||
| You think they maybe contractually obligated him to play two hours? | ||
| So that's how he likes to do it? | ||
| You know, most headline gigs are like an hour and a half. | ||
| You could choose to play the two hours, but if you're playing the two hours, usually you don't have an opener. | ||
| So you're starting early and then you may have an intermission. | ||
| I've never played that type of gig. | ||
| In spite of our catalog, you know, because it's long. | ||
| But realistically, man, I mean, you know, you got people waiting on your hits on a two-hour show. | ||
| Sprinkle them through the show. | ||
| Don't wait till the last half hour to hit them with... | ||
| With all your fly shit. | ||
| I mean, a lot of us were leaving. | ||
| We're like, fuck, we waited an hour and a half to hear this one song, then he went back into a cover. | ||
| We're like, nah, that ain't it. | ||
| And we fucking took off, man. | ||
| I'll enjoy Steve Miller on the radio and whatever I have in my library of his, I'll listen to it there. | ||
| I cannot invest a two-hour, you know, like... | ||
| A two-hour fucking ordeal of the first-hour covers in new songs. | ||
| I was just not feeling it. | ||
| I was like, nah, I can't do that. | ||
| You went there for a certain vibe. | ||
| Yeah, I went there for a certain vibe. | ||
| His music vibe. | ||
| And learning that, as an artist, seeing how he did that, and how a lot of us were like, yo, this is fucking ridiculous. | ||
| I never wanted any of our fans to feel something like that leaving a Cypress Hill show. | ||
| So like we, you know, we definitely will play some new shit, but we'll strategically place it to where it's not bothersome to the fans. | ||
| Like, oh man, I wanted to hear the hits. | ||
| I don't want to hear this shit over here. | ||
| So like we're hitting them with hits from the start, sprinkle some new shit, some more of the old shit and Here and there, just so that, like, artistically, yeah, you want them to have the new material, but, like, they're there to really realistically hear the shit that they fell in love with you for, you know what I mean? | ||
| And you cannot take that away from them. | ||
| Yeah, I hear you. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| That's beautiful that you think that way. | ||
| And sometimes it's good to go see someone live because you get a sense of what you like and what you don't like. | ||
| You can get inspired or you can get inspired to not do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Speaking of superheroes, right, and the lack of development of new ones, right? | ||
| Have you watched The Boys? | ||
| No. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| I heard it's really good, though. | ||
| Oh, it's fucking good, man. | ||
| Both seasons. | ||
| I think they're going on three or four now. | ||
| That is real fucked up. | ||
| There's too many shows. | ||
| It's so fucked up because it's like superheroes that are flawed. | ||
| Like you see DC superheroes and Marvel superheroes and they're kind of edgy in moments, but it's unrealistic. | ||
| They show you that... | ||
| There's not a flaw in not one of them. | ||
| But in this one, oh my god. | ||
| Like the Watchmen. | ||
| Oh man, it is like, yes. | ||
| It is aggressive like the Watchmen. | ||
| It is fucked up in the best way. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, it'll surprise you. | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
| Okay, I'll get on it. | ||
| Like when someone told me about it, I was like, ah, another fucking show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But then I watched like the first episode from the first episode. | ||
| It's like ramp the fuck up. | ||
| Like the first episode, if it doesn't pull you in, nothing's gonna pull you in. | ||
| Have you seen Zero Zero Zero on Amazon? | ||
| I've heard about it. | ||
| I gotta get on that. | ||
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Bro! | |
| That one's under the radar. | ||
| Tommy Segura told me about that one. | ||
| He goes, that is a wild, crazy show. | ||
| It was too heavy for my wife. | ||
| It was like too many people getting blasted. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Some of this shit is rough. | ||
| It's rough before you go to bed. | ||
| Trying to watch some shit before you go to bed. | ||
| Watch people getting blasted in Nicaragua. | ||
| Like, yo. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of violent shit on TV these days, man. | ||
| Yeah, she got bummed out after a while with the fucking Escobar show. | ||
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Narcos. | |
| Yeah, after a while I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| So many people are getting whacked here. | ||
| If you want to tell a story about the cocaine business, you got to tell it. | ||
| You got to tell the whole story. | ||
| You got to include all the whackings because there was a lot of them. | ||
| There was a lot of them. | ||
| I wonder if they're ever going to do the Griselda Blanco version of Narcos. | ||
| They should. | ||
| Because, I mean, that was a big story. | ||
| I mean, you can't leave that out. | ||
| That Billy Corbin documentary, Cocaine Cowboys. | ||
| Cocaine Cowboys, yeah. | ||
| One of the all-time great documentaries. | ||
| Did you see the second part? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's crazy, too. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Griselda Blanca was a bad lady. | ||
| Yeah, she was... | ||
| She ran shit with an iron fist. | ||
| That was the one that Jennifer Lopez played. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I hate to discriminate. | ||
| You know who else did it? | ||
| Oh, it's a new one. | ||
| Oh, even hotter. | ||
| They said Jennifer Lopez. | ||
| That worked. | ||
| Let's go with even hotter. | ||
| You know who played her, too? | ||
| I can't remember for what network they did it, but it was... | ||
| Why does her name escape me right now? | ||
| She did... | ||
| Catherine Zeta. | ||
| Catherine Zeta-Jones, that's right. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| No disrespect intended to any of these beautiful ladies. | ||
| But if you were going to have W.C. Fields played by Brad Pitt in his prime, you'd be like, what is going on here? | ||
| That doesn't work. | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| Why are you pretending that W.C. Fields was this beautiful, handsome man? | ||
| W.C. Fields was a... | ||
| Look at the difference between Jennifer Lopez, who's flawless, and Giselle DeBlanco, who looks like Mark Hunt. | ||
| Look, with Catherine Zeta-Jones, she tried to put a different look in, but for some reason, the acting in that particular one wasn't there, man. | ||
| Well, I think legitimately they should put prosthetics on her if they wanted to be that way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like they did with Tom Cruise? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was the movie? | ||
| Tropic Thunder? | ||
| Tropic Thunder. | ||
| That was amazing. | ||
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Amazing! | |
| When he had the fat hands and he was dancing. | ||
| Oh, man, that shit was incredible. | ||
| I mean, they can do that with Tom Cruise. | ||
| They can do that with her. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They can turn her, make her look like Giselle DeBlanco. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Blanca that was what she looked like. | ||
| Yeah, you know like and that was part of the story part of the story was this lady was just like Dominating shit. | ||
| Yeah look at Tom Cruise. | ||
| Oh, man But this that was part of the story was that this lady couldn't be crossed But that she was seduced by this guy who was remember what she she had this boyfriend the boyfriend was Banging other chicks and she found out and things got ugly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and she went to jail and she was riding him in jail and and You know, that was a big part of the story, man. | ||
| Yeah, the dude from Oakland. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The kid from Oakland. | ||
| A big part of her story was that she wasn't attractive. | ||
| And there was a big part of what she looked like was a big part of the whole thing. | ||
| And she was a scary lady. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She wasn't this bombshell hot 10 Sofia Vergara. | ||
| Yeah, that's the Hollywood casting right there. | ||
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But you can't do that. | |
| You can't. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| That's her. | ||
| That's her with her boyfriend. | ||
| If you're going to tell it, you've got to tell it right. | ||
| Yeah, you've got to tell it right. | ||
| You're supposed to tell the real story. | ||
| If you don't want to hire someone who looks like her, hire someone and put them in a suit that makes them look like her. | ||
| You should. | ||
| Otherwise, you're just lying. | ||
| If people could just Google and see the real lady, why are you doing that? | ||
| Trying to polish it up. | ||
| It's kind of because they don't even like when Robert De Niro. | ||
| She's hot when she's younger though. | ||
| Yeah when she was younger. | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| She was hot as fuck. | ||
| The drug game takes a toll. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I mean it doesn't even look the same human being. | ||
| It doesn't look like she could turn into looking like that. | ||
| You know I'm saying like though the bone structure. | ||
| Dude, she was gorgeous. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, but it just might be shitty photography. | ||
| Dude, she was gorgeous. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| Yeah, maybe they're having them portray her as she was when she was young. | ||
| Then start adding the fat suit. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta add that later. | ||
| Yeah, put that later, which makes it even more compelling. | ||
| Which was the problem with the Catherine Zeta-Jones ones. | ||
| They didn't do that. | ||
| They made her look weathered, but they didn't like... | ||
| Yeah, but Catherine Zeta-Jones weather is still hot as fuck, dude. | ||
| It's still Catherine Zeta-Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Cocaine godmother on Prime Video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the real lady herself was like, wow, what a great story. | ||
| Yeah, she was no joke. | ||
| And when you, like, in the interview, the hitmen, and the hitmen were telling them what Griselda was telling them to do, it was like, yikes. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You didn't want to be on the bad side. | ||
| Ooh, yikes! | ||
| Didn't want to be on the bad side or owe money. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Don't do that. | ||
| And again, all that comes from illegality. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All that comes from it being illegal and only criminals selling it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's what, I mean, that fucking made Miami, bro. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| When you think about it, like so many new businesses popped up in that time because, you know, people had money to spend. | ||
| How many banks? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, how much money were they moving around? | ||
| How many banks got in on that Coke money? | ||
| And how many banks were like, nope, we don't want your dirty money. | ||
| We want only established cash from established businesses. | ||
| Like, how many banks didn't know that they were handling cocaine money in Miami in the 80s? | ||
| Probably the majority of them. | ||
| Didn't know it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| At first, they probably didn't know, and then they realized that they did nothing to change it. | ||
| I think it's probably the obligation for the corporation to continue this business while profitable and shaky and possibly illegal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it illegal for them, though? | ||
| Do they have to investigate where the money comes from to put it in the bank? | ||
| I think they just have to report that it entered the bank. | ||
| I don't know if they have to see where it came from. | ||
| I think that's the IRS's job to do that. | ||
| Bro, but dudes were burying trash bags filled with $100 bills. | ||
| Just put them in their yard somewhere. | ||
| And that was the dumbest shit because they weren't even stashing the money properly. | ||
| A lot of that money went rotten. | ||
| All that all of it that mean if you're high on coke and you're digging holes in your backyard, you're not gonna remember where those holes are. | ||
| You better be planting little flags, little pinpoints. | ||
| They had no GPS back then. | ||
| You couldn't drop a pin. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| Yeah, good luck finding that. | ||
| Like one of these guys that are the bosses, they're all coked up and enraged. | ||
| They don't remember where they put it. | ||
| They told you the wrong spot. | ||
| How many people are gonna go on treasure hunts in people's backyards if they find out that they were a coke dealer in Miami? | ||
| It's almost worth it. | ||
| If you buy a dude, he's a coke guy, goes to jail in the 1980s and he builds his fucking mansion, the mansion's still there, you would buy it and go, okay, has anybody ever done any renovations in the backyard? | ||
| Has anybody ever dug shit up here? | ||
| Have you ever done any irrigation back here? | ||
| Okay, thank you. | ||
| Yeah, we'll take this. | ||
| We'll take this. | ||
| It might be a fucking billion dollars in $100 bills. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you better be there when they fucking peel that shit up, because those construction companies are going to be like, ah, we didn't find anything, sir. | ||
| You gotta be there every day. | ||
| You gotta be there every day, like a hawk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially when you know where you got it from. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just probably like pirate treasure still places that people haven't found. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Like what is that one island? | ||
| There's some island where these pirates went there and they built this elaborate trap. | ||
| Like there's supposed to be some sort of, you know what I'm talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People have tried to dig this up many, many times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think there was even a documentary or a television show about it. | ||
| I've listened to a book about it. | ||
| It honestly sounds like it might be nothing because so many people have tried to do this for so long. | ||
| But there is a structure, right? | ||
| There's some kind of a thing that was built. | ||
| But it keeps getting filled in with water or something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Trying to get down to it. | ||
| So they figured out a way to put this stuff down in a way that you could get to it, but it would be very, very difficult. | ||
| But I think then climate change happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the shoreline probably changed a little bit. | ||
| The Curse of Oak Island. | ||
| The Curse of Oak Island. | ||
| Yeah, they got a TV show on this. | ||
| So this is, they're trying to dig it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is season seven of it, so they obviously haven't found it yet. | ||
| And they still can't find it. | ||
| So they have these giant excavator crews. | ||
| How do you get seven seasons out of finding nothing? | ||
| You know, if Geraldo had that secret, he would have ran that Al Capone shit all the way. | ||
| It's like, we're still looking for his shit. | ||
| Like Finding Bigfoot. | ||
| Those motherfuckers are still looking. | ||
| They're still looking. | ||
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How many seasons? | |
| I haven't seen this. | ||
| This is describing exactly what you guys were just saying. | ||
| The legend of cocaine island. | ||
| Oh, is it really? | ||
| This guy went on a path to find like buried two million dollars worth of buried cocaine or something. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Well, yeah, because when you know your neighbor is the fucking cocaine kingpin and he's gone to jail and he ain't getting out. | ||
| Yeah, but what do you do if you find it? | ||
| It's still illegal. | ||
| If you find two million dollars worth of cocaine and you're just a regular guy, now you're a cocaine distributor? | ||
| People find it in the water, I've heard of. | ||
| Yeah, I have heard of that. | ||
| But you usually turn it in, and the government gives you ungats. | ||
| They give you shit. | ||
| They fucking dose it out to their friends. | ||
| They're having a party. | ||
| All the cops are doing lines off your coke. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You don't get nothing. | ||
| You don't get nothing. | ||
| How much coke gets stolen from evidence rooms? | ||
| If you had to guess. | ||
| It's not zero, right? | ||
| It's not zero Coke has ever been stolen from evidence rooms. | ||
| Coke has definitely been stolen from evidence rooms. | ||
| I'm not accusing any cops of stealing Coke. | ||
| It has to happen. | ||
| It had to have happened in human history. | ||
| It has to. | ||
| Like, there's no way that it didn't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because there's cops out there that definitely got drug problems. | ||
| Well, they say DEA agents. | ||
| You know, if you're one of them undercover dudes and you've got to show you're legit, so you've got to go and do drugs with these guys. | ||
| Those are the guys most at risk, yep. | ||
| Imagine you're a DEA agent and then all of a sudden you're a meth head. | ||
| And you're like, oh shit, I'm a meth head. | ||
| I had to prove I was real, so I had to do meth with these guys. | ||
| And now they're stealing shit from the evidence room. | ||
| Yeah, now you're sneaking around. | ||
| That's what happened to this guy. | ||
| The Cocaine Island guy, he got charged with intent to distribute 70 pounds of gold. | ||
| So he found it. | ||
| I don't know if he found it. | ||
| I'm trying to read through this. | ||
| Well, they're saying he's got 70 pounds of buried white gold. | ||
| Look at this, though. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| It says he was charged with intent to distribute cocaine after embarking on a treasure hunt to uncover 70 pounds of buried white gold in Puerto Rico. | ||
| But does that mean he found it, or he was charged because he was trying to find it? | ||
| Arrested after he attempted to recover and sell the cocaine that had been buried on the island. | ||
| So did he recover it, though? | ||
| We'll have to watch the movie and find out, I guess. | ||
| Oh, the son of a bitch, the cliffhanger. | ||
| They gave us a cliffhanger, these fucks. | ||
| How about cocaine bear? | ||
| Oh, I haven't seen that, but that's a true story. | ||
| I heard that's a true story. | ||
| Yeah, bears will eat anything, man. | ||
| The fact that the bear ate the coke. | ||
| I wonder what it smelled like to him. | ||
| I wonder why he ate it. | ||
| Did the bear die from a heart attack? | ||
| I think that was the rumor. | ||
| I mean, it probably overdosed. | ||
| Yeah, like... | ||
| I mean, if you're eating coke and you're a bear, bears eat a lot. | ||
| Like, how much coke is that? | ||
| Like, what did that taste? | ||
| I bet the bear's mouth got numb as fuck, bro. | ||
| And I bet... | ||
| The whole snout. | ||
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I bet they enjoy the experience. | |
| I bet it feels good. | ||
| I bet once you start getting high from that coke, you're like, oh, this is great, and then you're a bear, you're a glutton, so you're just diving in there, eating the whole bag. | ||
| How did the bear die? | ||
| I'm looking right now. | ||
| It happened in 1985. 85. See, things that happened in 85, you're like, man, did that really happen? | ||
| The story is crazy. | ||
| A plane dumped the cocaine out. | ||
| Bro, 75 pounds. | ||
| They found the dead bear. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, he had two of his. | ||
| He absorbed only three to four grams. | ||
| Well, that's a lot. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah, what do they think killed him? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| His stomach was literally packed to the brim with cocaine. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Yeah, he ate more than three to four grams. | ||
| That seems like more than three to four grams. | ||
| Only absorbed that much. | ||
| Oh, he'd only absorbed that. | ||
| So the rest of it was in his stomach. | ||
| So he literally ate until his stomach was packed like a big coke rock. | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| Because that shit is probably hard as fuck. | ||
| He probably packed it in there. | ||
| His guts, if his stomach was packed to the brim with cocaine, oh my god. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| What was it like for that bear? | ||
| Just lying there while your heart is literally cracking your ribs. | ||
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Ba-bang, ba-bang, ba-bang, ba-bang. | |
| What the fuck have I done? | ||
| That bear could not understand what the fuck was happening to him at all. | ||
| You got a literal rock of paste in your stomach. | ||
| And your heart is going... | ||
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Yeah, imagine the heartbeat. | |
| Fuck. | ||
| What a fucked up last day for a bear. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then there was a movie that was supposed to be funny. | ||
| I heard it was funny. | ||
| Did you see it, Jamie? | ||
| No, I haven't seen it yet. | ||
| I'll watch it someday. | ||
| I thought about it. | ||
| I'm going to wait. | ||
| It's a great idea. | ||
| But it is. | ||
| When I heard it, I was like, nah, that can't be a movie. | ||
| So this is my question that I forgot earlier. | ||
| Does PCP make you aggressive? | ||
| Because ketamine doesn't make you aggressive, right? | ||
| It calms you down. | ||
| So why do we always associate PCP with people being wild? | ||
| I think they have to be like sort of... | ||
| It's like provocation. | ||
| I think they're mellow until... | ||
| Until provoked? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't want to try it, but... | ||
| Like, I wouldn't want to be approaching anybody on PCP. No! | ||
| Like, telling them, hey, you need to... | ||
| Nah. | ||
| And who knows what designer drug some fucking chemist is going to figure out in the future that takes that to a next level. | ||
| I mean, imagine if there was no... | ||
| That's probably why I bet... | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Dr. Edward Domino, who participated in the early testing of PCP, documented that the drug produces an adrenaline release resulting in a fight-or-flight reaction with an increased heartbeat, high blood pressure, and raised body temperature. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| He said that the effects of the drug can vary greatly. | ||
| It can act as depressant, stimulant, or hallucinogen, depending upon the dosage, type of administration, and circumstances of use. | ||
| On the street, PCP is available as a powder, tablet, or liquid, or in leaf mixtures, it may be swallowed, injected, snorted, or smoked. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Key factors that determine whether a PCP user becomes violent are the user's personality, the physical settings, and the external stimulants. | ||
| Like what you're saying. | ||
| Like, fucking with them. | ||
| Something fucks with them. | ||
| And then they go from 0 to 100. They get triggered, yeah. | ||
| It takes something to trigger them. | ||
| Because I think they're totally in their own world until someone comes in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And imagine that. | ||
| You're like in a zone and then the cops come fucking with you. | ||
| I mean, immediately you're going to be reactive. | ||
| They cite the case of West Covina police officer Ken Bread, who was killed in 1983 by a PCP user who was unfazed by both mace and baton blows. | ||
| In a powerful display of force, he uprooted a sapling and its eight-foot stake, which he hurled at the officer. | ||
| Then he managed to grab a shotgun out of the officer's car and kill him. | ||
| Holy shit, dude. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| He pulled a tree out of the ground and threw it at the guy? | ||
| That's brute fucking strength. | ||
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Hulk smash. | |
| That's Hulk smash strength right there. | ||
| Like, are we sure it doesn't make you stronger? | ||
| Imagine if we had, like, MMA, but you could take PCP. You could take whatever drug you want. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| I wonder if anybody's done weightlifting PRs on it. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| Because dudes do weird shit before they do PRs. | ||
| They drink. | ||
| Sometimes guys do shots of whiskey and then they do deadlifts. | ||
| Just something like give them a whoa! | ||
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A fucking whoa! | |
| Give them that little boost. | ||
| Yeah, I couldn't believe that when I heard that, that some people like to do that. | ||
| I don't think like... | ||
| I never heard that. | ||
| You never heard that? | ||
| A shot before they power lift, huh? | ||
| Could be just crazy people. | ||
| We should find that out, too. | ||
| I would imagine, though. | ||
| You feel looser. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like some DJs, before they go DJ clubs, they'll have a shot, and it makes them loose, and they feel like they rock the part. | ||
| They got the vibe of the party locked in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A shot is a nice way to get the party started. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gets in there quick. | ||
| The little jolt. | ||
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Boom. | |
| Warms the belly. | ||
| Yeah, it sounds like people have definitely tried this. | ||
| I'm reading a story right now. | ||
| The one thing that says it's the most popular post off of a bodybuilding message board, the thread on PCP and bodybuilding and powerlifting. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| It says a 6'5", 325 powerlifter came in high on PCP, 7% body fat. | ||
| I'm going on to see that there were 11 people piled on the back of an ambulance to try to keep them restrained. | ||
| Jesus Christ, dude. | ||
| Yeah, imagine. | ||
| They had to knock them down with sedatives. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I had to hit him with a dark gun. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Powerlifting on PCP. And just fucking roid raging around the building. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| Probably PCP and steroids too if he's that big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta imagine. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He's on the double dose. | ||
| He's on the double whammy. | ||
| That's, you know, like, he really thought that out. | ||
| Like, okay, I know I'm stronger when I smoke this PCP. I'm gonna go really get my workout on right now. | ||
| Or maybe that was his first time. | ||
| Just, sorry, guys. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| I took a chance. | ||
| I fucked up. | ||
| I was on PCP. Lost my mind. | ||
| I really apologized to everyone. | ||
| Let's hope. | ||
| Doing deadlifts. | ||
| What about shots? | ||
| People do do that, right? | ||
| Well, I'm looking up deeper discussions on it. | ||
| It says there's no evidence that it increases strength, but because it's a disassociative, do you think that maybe you can't feel the pain? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| So you just go through it? | ||
| Yeah, could be. | ||
| Yeah, there's a self-preservation part of lifting, right? | ||
| Like if a lift feels too heavy, you put it down. | ||
| Maybe if you're on PCP, just fuck it! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Let's go! | |
| I mean, what's, you know... | ||
| Well, you know, hey, look, there's parts of the mind that we can't tap into in a sober state that give us different abilities, right? | ||
| Including strength, you know, tapping into something different. | ||
| We're blocked from it. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| And I think some of these things like PCP and others sort of maybe could unlock some of that. | ||
| Well, people definitely move better when they're on adrenaline. | ||
| Adrenaline makes people very explosive, right? | ||
| It's supposed to be there to get you to run away from something, right? | ||
| To get the fuck away or fight or flight. | ||
| Either you're gonna fight, you get all this burst of energy out of nowhere. | ||
| It's a wild drug, though, because... | ||
| Like you ideally would want to be in shape and have very little adrenaline because adrenaline jacks up your heart rate unnecessarily sometimes. | ||
| And so if you're really juiced up with adrenaline, your heart's at 170 beats per minute. | ||
| If you start engaging in physical activity when you're already kind of gassing because your heart rate's already jacked, you're going to get tired quick. | ||
| That happens to a lot of fighters. | ||
| First time in the UFC? Yeah. | ||
| First time in the UFC is wild. | ||
| They gas out in that first round because of that. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Not so much anymore. | ||
| Guys are much better at that now. | ||
| It very rarely happens now. | ||
| By the time dudes get to the UFC now, the quality and the level of fighter is very high. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you're getting guys that are already very experienced and they know how to do it. | ||
| They don't just go full blast. | ||
| Not all of them. | ||
| It's rare. | ||
| Occasionally it happens. | ||
| When you go through those smaller shows, like the LFAs and these other small promotions, and you finally get that call, the moment they close that cage, you realize, oh my god, I'm on fucking pay-per-view. | ||
| There's Daniel Cormier. | ||
| There's John Anik. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| You've got to maintain composure and you're calm in there. | ||
| And sometimes when you're new to it and you're excited and the adrenaline rises, man, it's hard to stay composed. | ||
| I mean, that happens with young rappers out there, right? | ||
| First show in front of like 10-20,000 people. | ||
| They, let's say, rehearsed for weeks, a month, and they got the song down, and their breath control is there, and they sound great, but the minute they get on that stage and they see the enormity of it, It changes. | ||
| The inexperience makes them forget everything they learned and all of a sudden they're breathing heavy. | ||
| They're trying to keep up with the song. | ||
| They don't sound like the tone that's on the actual record and it's all that nervous energy because of the inexperience. | ||
| I would imagine with an MMA fight, going through that, man, that's got to be the toughest because you trained, you put the work in. | ||
| And yet you're gassing out. | ||
| But you see guys overcome that. | ||
| They have like a bad first experience and they come back and they're like, I get it now. | ||
| And then you'll see them like emerge and get much better. | ||
| That does happen a lot. | ||
| Yeah, you see a lot of that now. | ||
| Where a guy's getting like, you know, you're thinking, oh man, he's about to get finished and all of a sudden just changes it all around. | ||
| I love the fact that you took voice lessons. | ||
| You were like, I'm going to treat this like I'm going to figure out a way to do this the best way. | ||
| Instead of just doing my thing, I'm going to seek out experts in vocalizations and help me out. | ||
| So smart. | ||
| I think if you've got a different sort of voice and you've got to maintain it and not let it get damaged and things like that, you've got to find ways to strengthen it. | ||
| For me, I knew some of the stuff that was causing damage to my voice. | ||
| One was I was smoking blunts and I was drinking whiskey before the shows and things like that. | ||
| And then carbonated shit like sodas and stuff like that. | ||
| That whole combination had my shit raspy. | ||
| And then... | ||
| The excitement, the adrenaline, carrying that over, not necessarily controlling that to be able to sound right. | ||
| So it was a combination of all that. | ||
| And then someone referred me to the lady. | ||
| I think her name was Elizabeth Sabine. | ||
| She taught a bunch of different singers, but her thing was opera. | ||
| And to teach you how to breathe so that you don't have to over-project from your vocal cords and all that stuff from the throat. | ||
| And so getting rid of the whiskey and the blunts and the sodas, that was one thing that definitely helped. | ||
| But like with the breath control and not over projecting and staying in key and in tone, whatever, she taught me that. | ||
| And that preserved my shit so that I could sound like what I sound like on the record, even to this day. | ||
| I didn't really suffer too much damage like a lot of people do where they cannot sound like they do on the record because they've pretty much blasted out their shit. | ||
| By partying and not taking care of the muscle, not taking care of the tool, any of it, you know what I mean? | ||
| So, I always respected the fact that I got this gift, so, like, I'm gonna do what I got to to protect it, and that was one thing, man. | ||
| Like, I was going hoarse every damn, every other show, like, And not sounding the way that I should on records. | ||
| And when I would hear the playback to that, I'd be like, oh my fucking God, what is this? | ||
| And then finally I reached out to somebody who knew a coach and they were like, hey, put me on to your vocal coach. | ||
| I want to try to strengthen what I got going on here. | ||
| Fortunately, man, I paid attention to her and I didn't blow it off. | ||
| Like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| Because you can go in there like that and be like, how are these exercises going to help me? | ||
| But until you do them and get used to them and it becomes second nature, you don't realize it. | ||
| And fortunately, I was serious enough to take the advice and do all the practices. | ||
| And it preserved my voice, man. | ||
| I was lucky enough to get that when I did. | ||
| Yeah, it's beautiful that you figured that out. | ||
| And it's a great message for other guys, too. | ||
| Like, treat this like it's a profession. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It's a beautiful profession. | ||
| I mean, folks that could sing, like, let's just say Patti LaBelle, right? | ||
| I'm not the biggest Patti LaBelle fan, but she's made great music in her time. | ||
| But in relation to her tool, which is her voice, I mean, she's taking care of it to where she sounds amazing right now to this day in her 70s. | ||
| And not everybody her age that possesses that talent and has a voice still have a strong voice because they didn't take care of it like she did. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And that goes a long way, man. | ||
| If you want to have longevity in this game and you want to sound good, man, you take care of the tools. | ||
| on the flip side i like the way johnny cash sounded in his last days yeah he sounded good i love the hearing the life in his voice i love hearing the living yeah in his voice like that guy lived a hard life he sure did and johnny cash lived a hard life And it was a dope record, for sure. | ||
| That album was dope. | ||
| Just hearing that voice at the end of his life, and knowing that he doesn't have much time left, and knowing that he knows he doesn't have much time left, and he's singing that. | ||
| Can you play some of that? | ||
| Play Johnny Cash, Hurt. | ||
| And it's a cover, a Nine Inch Nails cover. | ||
| There's so many layers to it. | ||
| So many layers to it. | ||
| And it's like when you see what he looked like back then, man. | ||
| I mean, he was an older dude, man. | ||
| An older dude who was one of the highwaymen, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Folsom Prison Blues, one of the original. | ||
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I hurt myself today To see if I still feel I focus on the pain The only thing that's real The needle tears the hole The old familiar sting Try | |
| to kill it all away But I remember everything. | ||
| What have I become? | ||
| My sweetest friend. | ||
| Everyone I know goes away in the end. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Damn, that was good. | ||
| And he did have a problem with heroin back in the day, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He had a problem with all kinds of shit. | ||
| All kinds of shit. | ||
| I mean, they were partying hard. | ||
| Those old school outlaw country guys, him and Waylon Jennings. | ||
| And I mean, come on, man. | ||
| Those dudes were going hard. | ||
| The Highwaymen, that song. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was a highwayman. | ||
| Across the Gulf Coast, I did Ride. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Talk about dying and being reincarnated over and over again. | ||
| That's an amazing song. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, he lived a life, that's for sure. | ||
| When he comes on that song, I rode a starship across the Great Divide. | ||
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| Dude! | ||
| And when I reached the other side, God, man, that whole era of, like, those guys, that was a wild group of men. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And songwriting was different back then, too, man. | ||
| It was very much more poetic than it is today. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| There was, like, they would tell stories in their songs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was a lot of it. | ||
| Look at them, man. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Chris Christopherson, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings. | ||
| God. | ||
| That was the crew right there. | ||
| Goddamn, dude. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Yeah, amazing. | ||
| And again, I mean, then they were pretty laid along in life, too, when they did that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those guys were bad motherfuckers to the end. | ||
| Well, Johnny Cash was Willie still around. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Chris Christopherson still around? | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| He's still around, right? | ||
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I think so. | |
| And Whalem's not. | ||
| Here's another one, man. | ||
| Those outlaw guys, man. | ||
| That era of country music. | ||
| Again, you've got to realize this is a fairly recent thing in human history. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| The outlaw country star, that's an American thing that happened... | ||
| Yeah, that's here. | ||
| ...in the 1900s. | ||
| That's homegrown. | ||
| Still around. | ||
| There's Christopherson and Garth Brooks. | ||
| Where's the bodies, Garth? | ||
| Probably says that everywhere. | ||
| Where's the bodies? | ||
| Do you know what that is? | ||
| That's your mom's house thing? | ||
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| You know they always pretend that Garth Brooks is a serial killer. | ||
| Everywhere he goes, people turn up missing. | ||
| So all the fans, they all go into his comments like, where are the bodies, Garth? | ||
| Come clean, Garth. | ||
| I'll still be your friend. | ||
| Garth needs a teacup for his birthday. | ||
| Yeah, a teacup. | ||
| The Hitler teacup. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Be real. | ||
| It's always good seeing you, my brother. | ||
| Thank you very much for coming in here. | ||
| Thanks for having me, man. | ||
| It's always fun to hang with you. | ||
| Let's do it more often. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| And tell everybody where they can absorb all of your work. | ||
| They can find me at, I mean, just Google me, Be Real. | ||
| It's all right there laid out. | ||
| But, I mean, we do our Dr. Green Thumb show Monday through Friday on YouTube, so you can find us there, and we're constantly, you know, giving up our schedule and the shit we're doing, man. | ||
| It's very random, but, yeah, right there. | ||
| All right, right there. | ||
| Be Real, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Thank you, everybody. |
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