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Oct. 7, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1879 - Sober October 4
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ari shaffir
26:39
b
bert kreischer
01:06:47
j
joe rogan
01:07:35
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tom segura
24:26
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bert kreischer
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!
joe rogan
You got some stogies, Bert?
bert kreischer
I bought cigars.
There's nothing better, Artie and I were talking about this, than a cigar and a coffee in the morning.
ari shaffir
In the morning, yeah.
joe rogan
You know what's better, a joint?
bert kreischer
Uh, we should address that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a real issue.
bert kreischer
Not with me, Tom.
tom segura
No, of course not.
bert kreischer
Dude, I don't have the cravings that Joe has.
You gotta see Stanhope in the green room these days.
Are we recording?
tom segura
Are you not having any drinking cravings?
joe rogan
Why are you saying Stanhope?
Because I smoked a cigarette?
ari shaffir
I smoked one yesterday.
You breathed it down in one gulp.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I didn't even smoke the whole thing.
bert kreischer
If Camel Cigarettes could do an ad of you sucking down a cigarette...
joe rogan
I would sniff paint.
I would spray paint into a paper bag to get a little bit of a buzz before I go on stage.
I was just trying to find something.
Give me something.
unidentified
Give me a buzz.
joe rogan
Give me a buzz.
I fucking hold my breath, stand on my head.
tom segura
That feels good.
That feels good.
joe rogan
I'm telling you.
tom segura
I stood up too fast the other day and it felt good.
joe rogan
It does feel good.
ari shaffir
Do what?
tom segura
I stood up too fast and it felt good.
joe rogan
You know what I really feel with the weed?
Riding.
When I sit down to write.
When I don't have weed and I just sit down to write, it's like I'm riding with weights on.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's like running.
Running with a weight vest on.
bert kreischer
It's like, oh.
joe rogan
With weed, I just can get into it.
I just get into my head and I just find ideas.
tom segura
Just run.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I like being on stage.
Last night was fun.
I was stone sober.
Last night was fun, though.
That was a great crowd.
I took one chance to a couple to the far right, older dude, and I didn't see his chick.
She was against the wall.
And I was making a joke about Leanne being old.
And I looked over and I saw his chick and she was his age.
And I went, oh shit, your chick's old.
But then I said, age appropriate.
And then she was like, yeah.
Because Liam, the biggest thing is when you upgrade.
ari shaffir
Upgrade your down age.
bert kreischer
When you down age.
We had a buddy.
We had a buddy upgrade.
tom segura
Women get angry at that.
ari shaffir
We get angry at anyone else doing it.
joe rogan
Isn't it interesting that guys don't give a fuck?
Like, if a woman is getting divorced and then she starts fucking her personal trainer and he's like 32, no one cares.
46 year old woman, 30 year old personal trainer, no one cares.
No one cares at all.
ari shaffir
Yeah, if she's single and doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, good for her.
Look, she's got a hot young guy.
tom segura
Women are constantly threatened by youth, though.
That's what they're threatened by.
Men are threatened by a bigger guy.
Like, you know, a stronger, bigger version of them.
That's the threat.
joe rogan
And that's a money thing, too.
Money, too.
unidentified
Status.
joe rogan
Yeah, money is a big one that angers men.
Like, when a woman leaves a man for a rich man, that one is inferior.
Because that seems like the one that's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.
ari shaffir
You can't do anything about it.
tom segura
The same reason the woman can't do anything.
If you go, my new chick's 24. She can't do anything about it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, if you have a girl leave you for a college senior, it's like, alright.
I'm sorry you left me, but that's fine.
tom segura
I would think it's funny.
Here's the thing, that college senior would not be a threat to your status.
He for sure would be a poorer person.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
But if he's like some fucking young stud linebacker and he's just sending it in every night, boom, boom, boom.
unidentified
But you'd still be like, did he get his allowance this week to take you out?
tom segura
He's in college.
bert kreischer
Here's the deal.
Women and men accrue interest differently.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
So like women are like fucking high-end IPOs like out the gate.
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
And men are penny stocks.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And then they invest, like they kind of like, like a hedge fund, they look at these penny stocks like, you were a hardcore penny stock.
But you were.
I remember you were gaining weight and you were fucking like, you were like, and your material's questionable.
It's like, come on!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
bert kreischer
But I've known him so long that when Christina signed up for him, that was a risky investment.
It was.
There was no promise of success with Tom in podcasting.
Back then it was just TV and movies.
She had already been on TV. She had already had some success.
She was transitioning into stand-up pretty quick, getting writing jobs.
She was making the money and Tom's featuring.
All of a sudden, your stock fucking goes public.
Netflix special.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And then, in a weird way, same thing with me, dude.
I was a rescue dog.
ari shaffir
I feel like this whole analogy was just for me as a Jew.
bert kreischer
But then as that happens, and this sounds shitty, but women start aging, and then their stock starts declining, and then all of a sudden it splits, and it splits and splits.
And you watch this penny stock keep fucking rising, and some dudes go, what the fuck am I doing with this bullshit stock option?
I'm going to sell out and get brand new fucking stocks.
joe rogan
Very interesting analogy.
ari shaffir
Did you ever see that guy, the woman who put out, like, I'm looking for a millionaire?
You remember that guy?
I'm looking for a millionaire to, like, make me your wife?
No.
It sounds familiar.
joe rogan
You say a guy or a woman?
ari shaffir
A woman said it.
And then some economist was like, let me tell you about the laws of diminishing returns.
And he broke down why it's a bad investment for any millionaire to take you in.
You gotta look it up.
It's just like, great.
It's like, your value is decreasing as their value increases.
bert kreischer
But it increases if you're in love with the person, it increases.
It stays.
I'll always joke about Leanne being older than me and old as fuck and looking very old and all that shit.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
ari shaffir
I think she's lovely.
joe rogan
Every week.
unidentified
Every fucking week.
bert kreischer
But a guy who loves his wife does that.
A guy who doesn't love his wife doesn't say a fucking word and just upgrades one day.
Just out of nowhere goes, see ya, bitch!
joe rogan
A guy who loves his wife calls her old?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Yeah, he's like, she looks like an old wallet.
I told her one time.
ari shaffir
Jesus Christ.
bert kreischer
When we met that dude who upgraded, fucking left his chick.
They weren't even married.
They weren't even married.
Common law.
Two kids, great kids.
She was a smoke show back in the day.
She was a smoke show back in the day.
Now, very attractive 54-year-old woman.
I mean, you know, 54, but very attractive.
Upgrades to like, I think, 27, 33, somewhere around there.
The women were living, and then that night in bed, me and Leanne are there, and I go, I wonder what I could get these days.
I wonder what my value is.
ari shaffir
Is that in front of your wife?
bert kreischer
Yeah, well, that's...
In front of her, to her.
ari shaffir
That's correct.
joe rogan
You would get some girl that gets your ATM number, and she'd be drawing money out of your bank account every day.
bert kreischer
That's what Leanne said, Leanne.
I'd like to see you try.
joe rogan
And I was like, ooh, angry.
I'm angry.
Challenge.
Challenge issued.
bert kreischer
That's the, you know, you're kind of curious.
I would love to get a Tinder profile just to be like, see what I can do.
tom segura
You'd get some hits, man.
ari shaffir
Can we operate your Tinder profile for a while?
joe rogan
I would go right to Grindr.
I'd point that bitch right over.
That's where you're gonna get big numbers.
bert kreischer
I had a Grindr account for him.
Yeah, really?
We started fucking with each other.
I opened a Grindr account for him.
And people would hit me up and I'd be like, I'd be like, oh, that's so cool.
I can't make it today.
But why don't you come see me perform at the Comedy Store?
joe rogan
A bunch of little twinks sitting there.
Wait, are you missing drinking at all?
bert kreischer
No.
tom segura
Not at all?
bert kreischer
Not at all.
tom segura
Good for you.
Zero.
joe rogan
Well, tell us about the health stuff, like you were talking about last night.
ari shaffir
I should have some nicotine when I do this.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's fire up them stogies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You were talking about...
unidentified
What do you got?
bert kreischer
Jaime Garcia's are the best.
joe rogan
Whatever you want.
We got a bunch here, too, if you want those.
bert kreischer
These Jaime Garcia's are fucking...
ari shaffir
Try one of those.
joe rogan
Jaime Garcia's?
tom segura
Jaime.
bert kreischer
By the guys who do my father's cigar.
I like a big ring gauge.
I like a strong smoke.
joe rogan
Our boy Nick from Foundation Cigars was telling me that there might be some sort of an embargo in Nicaragua.
He's fucking terrifying.
ari shaffir
No, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, there's some shit going down, apparently.
ari shaffir
Oh, I got to talk to you.
I went to the plantation.
joe rogan
Oh, did you?
The one in Connecticut?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How was it?
ari shaffir
It was so cool.
We saw them curing the stuff.
bert kreischer
There's a difference when you hang out with dudes that know cigars, like Bobby Kelly knows cigars.
ari shaffir
Sure, knows cigars.
bert kreischer
He introduced me to Tatuaje, which is one of my favorite cigars.
And it's almost like you hang out with someone who, like, it's like hanging out with a grown-up all of a sudden, but you're the same age.
Bobby's turned me on to so many good cigars.
joe rogan
Hanging out with a grown-up beer the same age.
What do you mean?
ari shaffir
Because he knows his shit.
He's a man.
He's an actual man instead of this.
joe rogan
See, me, I don't know cigars and I don't know wine.
I like it, but I'm like, I have no time in my head to become a wine connoisseur.
ari shaffir
All you gotta know about cigars is $13.
You just go, what's around $13 and you'll get a good cigar.
bert kreischer
It's maybe my funnest thing of going into a cigar shop is getting into the humidor with the owner and being like, hey man, tell me what I want.
I'll tell you what I like.
I like something that kind of knocks me off my ass a little bit.
I like something a little stronger, but I'm a ring gauge whore.
I like a big, sometimes too big feels like a cock.
ari shaffir
Dude, I went to Cigar Lounge with this guy, Reggie Conquist, black guy, comic, and I was like, it's his first cigar, get him something, and he goes, do you want something flavored?
I was like, no!
joe rogan
Flavored.
Flavored.
Some strawberry cigar.
tom segura
Black dude's always like, that's your raspberry?
ari shaffir
And you're like, yeah.
joe rogan
Flavored.
Flavored cigars, that's so gross.
Yeah, like, I know what I like in terms of...
There's another lighter here, too.
I know what I like in terms of, like, a good wine.
Like, I take pictures of wines.
tom segura
Me, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a good app.
I think it's called...
tom segura
Dude, I take pictures of wine and send it to Matt.
ari shaffir
Matt Staggs?
tom segura
You're Matt.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
ari shaffir
He's into wine?
joe rogan
Yeah, my business manager is a legitimate connoisseur.
And he has like half a million dollars worth of wine in his house, at least.
tom segura
Probably more than that.
I know that about him, so I'll send him on.
I'll be like, this is good.
He'll write, no shit.
joe rogan
It's called Vivino.
So there's an app.
ari shaffir
What kind of response is that?
Can you imagine somebody going, hey, I just saw, you know, Burt Gresh is really funny, but yeah, no fuck.
joe rogan
So with this app, it's called Vivino.
So you take a photo of the label, and then you could order it right from the app.
ari shaffir
It's great.
joe rogan
Tony and I were eating at this steak restaurant.
We're drinking this really good Cabernet.
We're like, God damn, this is great wine.
This is the best wine I've ever had.
It's just really good.
And he goes, have you heard about Vivino?
I go, what's that?
He goes, we could order this wine right now.
I go, how?
tom segura
That is brilliant.
joe rogan
He took a photo of it, and then it shows you.
It's like, oh, and then it pulls it up.
Would you like to buy a case?
Like, yeah.
tom segura
That's brilliant.
joe rogan
It just sends it to your house.
We got back from the road on Tuesday.
I had a case of wine at my house.
tom segura
Wow.
bert kreischer
That sounds great.
tom segura
Vivino.
joe rogan
Yeah, Vivino.
tom segura
Yeah, because I take pictures of them all the time, but then I realize I don't do anything.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ari shaffir
I forget to look them up.
joe rogan
I forget.
ari shaffir
You're like, if I see this, I'll get it, but you're not going to remember.
tom segura
Never.
bert kreischer
So then, okay, let's talk about man shit.
Do you know the difference between dry aged and wet aged?
joe rogan
Yes.
bert kreischer
Okay, I don't.
ari shaffir
Wine or cigars?
unidentified
Meat.
tom segura
Meat.
joe rogan
Yeah, dry aged is done in a large, usually like a cooler, and they have a fan that circulates the air.
tom segura
For longer, too, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Usually.
Well, Adam Perry Lang, I became friends with him, and he had APL, which went under because of the fucking pandemic in LA. It was one of the best steakhouses.
It was amazing.
And he would dry-age his meat for a year.
tom segura
Wow.
joe rogan
Did you ever eat there with him?
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
ari shaffir
A year?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He was taking all these experiments in dry-aging, and he would do, like, your 60-day dry-age, your 90-day dry-age, but he's like, you've got to try this stuff.
It's, like, 365-day dry-aged, like, So it's got to be like muskier.
Like a nutty, weird taste.
Not my favorite.
It's not like I wouldn't want to have like a 16 ounce T-bone like that.
But for a small piece, it was just really interesting.
It's like a piece of foie gras or something.
Almost like liver.
But not even liver.
It's just like it's its own thing.
bert kreischer
I just had raw liver.
joe rogan
He had raw liver?
bert kreischer
Yeah, with the liver king.
joe rogan
Why would you do that?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
tom segura
With him?
bert kreischer
Yeah, he came to my house.
tom segura
Did you guys podcast?
bert kreischer
We did a podcast.
ari shaffir
The liver king.
bert kreischer
You'd be shocked how much we haven't caught it.
tom segura
Oh, I believe you're both delusional.
bert kreischer
We don't brush our teeth.
tom segura
Are you getting ab implants?
ari shaffir
He loves livers and yours is failing.
joe rogan
Did you ask him if he has ab implants?
bert kreischer
Yeah, he said it was a joke.
He said he doesn't have them.
He's fucking jacked.
Says he's clean, too.
I asked him for steroids.
ari shaffir
Not true.
joe rogan
Not true.
bert kreischer
Well, the podcast comes out on BirdCast.
Everyone check it out.
joe rogan
Tell you that right now.
Test that guy.
No.
bert kreischer
Well, here's my takeaway.
There's a lot of self-help gurus these days than there ever has been in history.
When I was a kid, it was Tony Robbins.
That was it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
unidentified
And still doing it, too, which is wild.
ari shaffir
Tony Robbins.
bert kreischer
Still doing it.
tom segura
Still doing it, dude.
joe rogan
Selling out huge places.
You know who's good friends with him?
Jesse May.
Jesse Mae Peluso?
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
She's good friends with Tony.
bert kreischer
I'd go to one of his things.
I'd go to one of his things.
joe rogan
Yeah, Dana White's good friends with Tony.
tom segura
He's gotta be good at what he does.
joe rogan
Oh, he's great at it!
bert kreischer
He's fucking great at it!
Put a pin in Dana White.
I want to talk about him today.
joe rogan
Alright, we'll put a pin in it.
But when I was 21 years old, when I was first starting to do stand-up, I got Unlimited Power, which is one of his books.
And it had like audio cassettes.
He would listen to his audio cassettes.
And I was living in Revere, Massachusetts with this shitty apartment.
And I was writing things down and reading his book and trying to motivate myself and fucking get ahead in life.
He's got legit points.
He's done a good job of curating really good inspirational ideas.
ari shaffir
Interesting.
We all did his birthday show once in Hollywood somewhere.
Comedy show?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ari shaffir
He just had a bunch of comedians.
He came to the comedy store and he was like, all those guys I liked, just hire him.
Gave us each 75 bucks.
It was really cool.
And then Jeff Richards was like, no, I'm getting 1,500.
Like, how'd you get $1,500?
He goes, huh?
They said $75.
I go, how about $1,500?
And they go, yeah, sure, whatever.
bert kreischer
You know, Tony Robbins respects that.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
tom segura
That's a great negotiation.
joe rogan
That's a giant.
What about $5,000?
unidentified
What about $10,000?
joe rogan
Well, Anthony Robbins, he's rich as fuck.
tom segura
So rich.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that guy's been selling inspiration for 40 years.
bert kreischer
That's wild.
You ever see the video of him going to, he has a house in Bali, and him making all his servants sing to him?
ari shaffir
No.
bert kreischer
That's fucking hilarious.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
Sing to him?
joe rogan
He makes them sing to him?
bert kreischer
That's fucking one of my favorites.
joe rogan
Like, how does he make them?
Like, sing to me!
ari shaffir
Did he catch the whip out?
bert kreischer
I'm sure he would never see this.
It's a video he goes to his place.
tom segura
I'm sure he would have a different version of this story.
bert kreischer
If you saw it, you can see the look in the gardener's face.
He makes everyone stop working, and then they all do a traditional Bali chant.
And you can see they're just like, oh, fucking...
Okay, here we go.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
bert kreischer
White guy wants us to sing.
joe rogan
And also be on film.
And also be on film.
And also be on the internet, right?
unidentified
Is this it?
bert kreischer
It's got to be the video where he's like...
unidentified
I could see that he still kind of had like a kid's approach to the whole thing.
bert kreischer
Are we on time?
Am I late?
unidentified
They had to catch a flight to Australia.
bert kreischer
He's a big motherfucker.
joe rogan
He's got legit giantism.
unidentified
A group of people who worked at Namale had formed a semicircle to sing a traditional Fiji farewell song.
joe rogan
That dude with glasses is not here.
unidentified
I'm so sorry, but I look forward to coming back home to see all the family again.
bert kreischer
It's been a beautiful, beautiful trip.
unidentified
It's the day!
It's the day!
joe rogan
He's got a staff like he's in a resort.
ari shaffir
He is in a resort.
bert kreischer
This is a resort.
unidentified
It's his resort?
It's his place.
Totally.
He's not for everyone.
joe rogan
There are plenty of- It's not for you, bro.
bert kreischer
And that's why you're not successful, motherfucker.
joe rogan
That guy needs to do squats.
bert kreischer
That guy's my favorite.
Saint Bernard's son in the back.
joe rogan
He needs to...
So this is his staff for his home?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
Look at his shirt.
It's the Anthony Bourdain Resort.
Wow!
joe rogan
So he's got a resort that you could visit?
tom segura
You mean Robins?
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
All them Anthony's, you know how it is.
ari shaffir
I was like, yeah, what?
joe rogan
Those Anthony's are all the same to me.
Yeah, he's got giantism, you know?
tom segura
Yeah, for real?
joe rogan
I think he's got like a pituitary gland issue.
He's an enormous man.
ari shaffir
Bert, you have that.
bert kreischer
Pituitaryism?
I wish.
joe rogan
There's a few people there that are unenthusiastically clapping in that chain.
bert kreischer
It's my favorite video.
joe rogan
Let's go.
I want to go back.
I want to go back because we glossed over that we came back.
When we were in the green room, you were talking about your blood pressure.
You were talking about your inflammation and how good you feel just five days off of booze.
What a difference it's made.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I feel phenomenal.
My blood pressure dropped immediately into perfect blood pressure.
Like, it's 140 over 90. If I'm partying hard, and then two days after drinking, it's 120 over 70. Two days?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And my blood pressure drops.
I mean, my stomach, my stomach starts making noises, like really aggressive.
tom segura
Didn't it inflame at first?
bert kreischer
Yeah, it super inflamed, and then it just starts going, hmmm.
ari shaffir
Dude, that's pretty fucking good.
unidentified
That's a good impression of whatever the fuck was happening.
ari shaffir
I mean, that's another level.
bert kreischer
I was farting so aggressively the first day not drinking.
I was at the store, and I was trying to have a conversation with someone about disc golf, and I had my ass in the main room towards the bathroom, and I was ripping farts that were just coming.
I think my inflammation is so bad, it kind of blocks up my stomach.
And I was gassy as fucking shit.
tom segura
But I don't think you account for how much you, like, when you drink normal Burt drinking, which is a lot, you also eat crazy.
unidentified
You eat crazy.
bert kreischer
I eat wild.
I don't eat bad.
Last night, I grabbed those tacos and the bell pepper, brought it home, and I went, I don't want this.
ari shaffir
Bullshit.
bert kreischer
I gave it to John Manns and my assistant Peter.
joe rogan
That was an aggressive bullshit, Ari.
bert kreischer
You want to call him right now?
ari shaffir
I don't believe you.
bert kreischer
I don't believe you, then.
joe rogan
Wow, this is aggressive.
tom segura
But wait, so don't you think both?
ari shaffir
Literally multiple homeless people said, hey, are you eating that food?
And you go, yeah, I took it to eat it.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I wanted to, but I got home and I went, hold on.
joe rogan
So you were walking around and homeless people were asking you for your food?
ari shaffir
Yeah, you had a to-go box.
bert kreischer
Welcome to Austin, Joe.
joe rogan
Where are you walking where homeless people are asking for your food?
ari shaffir
From the Vulcan.
bert kreischer
From the Vulcan.
joe rogan
So you walked all the way to...
bert kreischer
No, no.
I just walked outside the Vulcan and there was a plethora of homeless people going, hey, can I get that food from you?
ari shaffir
Is that a doggy bag?
unidentified
Can I have it?
joe rogan
Why don't you just give them the food then?
ari shaffir
And he took it to eat it.
bert kreischer
Well, at first I took it because I hadn't eaten all day.
joe rogan
Right.
Then you brought it back and you decided not to eat it.
bert kreischer
I got home...
Here's one of the things that happened a little bit when I got this full metabolic blood panel, full comprehensive concierge doctor visit.
And the guy said, we were talking about changing my lifestyle.
And there was a period of time, Tom knows this, where I was throwing up while I slept and breathing it into my lungs.
It's called aspirating.
And it was giving me hardcore acid reflux.
And I went to the doctor and the doctor said, listen man, this is going to affect your career.
You're not going to be able to talk.
I was losing my voice like crazy.
He goes, you've got to stop eating before you go to bed.
And I stopped entirely.
I stopped eating before I went to bed.
Because I saw direct reflection in my career, I could do it.
And so this other doctor, he's like, you need to lose weight.
And he's like, here's why I think you can do that.
Because you did it with the eating before you went to bed, so you can change your lifestyle.
It's possible.
So last night when I went home, I brought the food, because that's my impulse.
Set it down.
Called Manz and Peter.
They came up to my room.
They ate it.
And I went, I'll be throwing this up in my throat all fucking night.
All night I won't sleep.
I won't feel rested.
I'll go into the podcast feeling like shit.
I didn't eat any of it.
I didn't eat any of it.
joe rogan
Good for you.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's a great story.
bert kreischer
Do you want to call it bullshit?
joe rogan
No, he just says the story sucked.
ari shaffir
No, no.
I meant it's a tall tale.
bert kreischer
So, I couldn't even tell you what was in the tacos.
Couldn't even tell you.
joe rogan
Those tacos are good.
That's CM Smokehouse.
tom segura
We're six days in.
ari shaffir
Couldn't be in there.
tom segura
Have you already weighed differently?
bert kreischer
I lost like eight pounds.
joe rogan
How's your tits and your arms?
Ari could barely hold the mic last night.
ari shaffir
Oh, I'm fine.
I have to keep switching arms from the push-ups.
I can't hold a phone to my head for like two minutes.
I have to switch arms.
bert kreischer
I'm dead.
I look amazing.
joe rogan
Do you do?
bert kreischer
I'll show you a picture right now.
joe rogan
Right now?
I'm looking at you.
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
Shirtless.
unidentified
What the fuck are you saying?
ari shaffir
Shirtless.
joe rogan
Shirtless?
bert kreischer
I took this picture.
joe rogan
I sent you a picture of me shirtless.
Shut the fuck up.
bert kreischer
Your picture was, I opened it on the plane.
ari shaffir
Your picture was unreal.
bert kreischer
And it's unreal.
Like, I wanted to leak it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm on testosterone.
Unlike the liver king, I'll tell you the truth.
unidentified
The...
bert kreischer
Be honest.
Be honest.
Is that a good picture?
joe rogan
I'll say no and I didn't even look at it.
bert kreischer
Not bad.
joe rogan
You got a good cock.
bert kreischer
My shoulders and chest, though, not bad, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but your cock is a good, solid cock.
bert kreischer
Thank you, thank you.
joe rogan
Especially limp.
bert kreischer
Yeah, thank you.
Well, I fluffed it.
I fluffed it.
joe rogan
Did you fluff a little?
bert kreischer
I fluffed it.
I got it hard.
ari shaffir
It hangs.
bert kreischer
I walked by the mirror and I was like, I look good.
I was like, I'm going to take a picture.
tom segura
I'll fluff myself alone in a hotel room to walk by the mirror just to see myself.
ari shaffir
Just to see your max potential?
tom segura
No, just to feel like, oh, that's normal.
joe rogan
You ever put a rubber band around your dick and balls, like the whole thing?
tom segura
Sure, yeah.
joe rogan
Just to keep it all together in a package and just fucking keep that blood in there?
bert kreischer
They used to have Speedos that had cock rings in them that would shove your shit up front and you look awesome.
unidentified
Jesus, no.
ari shaffir
What the fuck was that?
unidentified
He almost aspirated.
joe rogan
So you go to this concierge service, you get all this blood panel done.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what is the guy, what kind of advice is he giving you?
bert kreischer
Well, first of all, he thought I was a liar.
Like, when we sat down, he was like, much like Ari.
He goes, how much you drink, you're honest.
I tell him everything.
And he goes, don't work out.
And I said, excuse me?
He goes, do not work out.
I don't want you in a gym.
I don't want you doing anything.
He goes, you are high risk to literally have a stroke, a heart attack, and I went, actually, and by the way, we did quartered artery scans on my neck, did calcium.
tom segura
EKG and everything.
bert kreischer
Everything.
Did everything.
And he's like, and we haven't gotten the results yet, and I said, I actually go to a cardiologist every six months.
I work out pretty fucking hard.
I'm not going to stop working out.
It's kind of my thing is I wake up, I party, and then I wake up, and then I work out hard as fuck.
I think I'm fine.
He goes, trust me, What you're telling me, if you work out, you'll have a stroke and you're going to die.
tom segura
Actually, he's probably telling you that because most people would.
joe rogan
But is he telling you it's based on the volume of alcohol?
bert kreischer
Based on just a conversation, an interview of like, how much do you drink, my weight.
tom segura
Most people who would drink, like he drinks, would not be active.
bert kreischer
And so I told him, I said, hey man, I'm not going to change anything.
If you want to have that conversation, when we get my blood work back and all my tests, that's fine.
I said I don't think you're going to find any blockage anywhere because I've already had all these.
I'm already on medication.
I'm on blood thinners.
I think I'm going to be fine.
I'm going to continue to work out.
I'll scale it back a titch.
A titch?
Usually I go until I work out pretty fucking hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, I worked out with you on a gym.
unidentified
You do.
joe rogan
You get after it.
bert kreischer
And so...
Blood work comes back like two days later, three days later, and he's like, I don't know what to tell you.
He's like, none of it makes sense.
He's like, you have no blockage.
From what you're telling me, either you're lying to me, He's got a test for the mantle gene.
joe rogan
Well, I think you're a very unusual specimen.
And Tom and I were talking about this.
If you didn't drink and party and you just worked out all the time, I think you'd be a freak athlete.
I really do.
I really do.
I think you're one of those guys that if you just didn't party at all and hit the gym and trained your whole life, you'd be a fucking freak.
I really think that.
tom segura
I don't disagree.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I really enjoy working out.
I do enjoy it and I work out really hard.
Working out sober hard, I don't think I've ever worked out this hard sober with direction.
ari shaffir
You get drunk and then work out?
bert kreischer
I have, yeah.
Wow.
joe rogan
He drinks wine on the treadmill.
bert kreischer
It's my favorite thing in the world.
Have you ever done it?
It's so much fun.
unidentified
No.
No one's done it.
bert kreischer
Oh, it's the fucking best.
unidentified
No.
bert kreischer
Oh, it's the best.
joe rogan
I like to get high and work out, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
I like to get really high.
Like, so high, I'm scared of life.
tom segura
High and shoot hoops is fun.
joe rogan
High and play pool is the best.
ari shaffir
Just get high.
joe rogan
You know where the ball's going.
Like, you feel it more.
ari shaffir
High and poker, I see through people.
Oh, that's interesting.
joe rogan
You see the lies.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I just know what everybody's holding.
It's great.
joe rogan
Wow.
Edibles or smoking?
ari shaffir
Weed.
And then every break, you've got to run back to your car, smoke a bunch, and come back.
Get more power.
joe rogan
Get more power.
But that's why I was saying edibles.
Would edibles give you the same result?
I don't know.
ari shaffir
It might be too crazy.
Sir, it's your turn to play.
unidentified
I can't handle truth.
joe rogan
But getting high and lifting weights, man, you just fucking, you feel like every fiber of your muscles, like when you're doing chin-ups when you're high, it's like you feel like...
You feel it all.
You feel like all the fibers working together.
Like stretching when you're high.
tom segura
It's like...
Everything's like...
So yoga would be dope.
joe rogan
Yoga is amazing high.
bert kreischer
I bet yoga high would be fucking hot.
joe rogan
Yoga is amazing high.
Yeah.
Well, in India, a lot of the yogis, they smoke chillums.
They do hashish.
And they do yoga.
ari shaffir
How about hot box yoga?
And just fill that room up with weed smoke.
joe rogan
Yeah, like one of them smoke machines?
Yeah, just keep pumping it in.
bert kreischer
Dude, I know a guy with a hot yoga studio in his office.
joe rogan
Yeah, me.
bert kreischer
That's what I was gonna say.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
ari shaffir
The guy?
unidentified
It's right here.
ari shaffir
Wait, you crank up the heat in there?
joe rogan
No, I have a hot yoga studio in one of my...
You didn't see it?
I didn't show it to you?
ari shaffir
I don't remember.
bert kreischer
It's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a hot yoga room.
It's bigger than this room, and it has its own heating system.
And so it's completely isolated from the rest of the gym, so you can crank it up to 105, whatever the fuck you want.
unidentified
You want to get crazy, you can go 130. Fuck.
joe rogan
I know a lot of guys who do, there's a company that makes an infrared sauna that's designed specifically for working out in it.
It has like chin-up bars and shit.
See if you can find what that is.
It's a different kind of sauna than I use.
I use the traditional rock sauna, like the hot rocks.
tom segura
How hot do you go?
bert kreischer
I do 185. Infrared is a little more sustainable, meaning I had an infrared one for a while.
I have the Hot Rock one.
I love the Hot Rock one.
But infrared, you can go in and actually sit in there for 35 minutes and you build.
joe rogan
Yeah, but see, that's the problem.
The problem is the reason why it's uncomfortable when you're going really hot is that's what you need because that's how your body builds the heat shock proteins.
There's not the same kind of studies that are done on infrared saunas.
The 20-year Finland study, there's a Finland study that showed a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality for people who use the sauna four times a week, 20 minutes at a time, and I think it's 170, 175 degrees.
But they showed a 40% decrease in strokes, heart attacks, like everything.
bert kreischer
It's non-impact cardiovascular, correct?
joe rogan
It is.
bert kreischer
I'm pairing you, I think.
joe rogan
You're sitting there and your heart is jet- like I wore the heart strap the other day.
ari shaffir
I wore it too.
An hour at the schvitz.
joe rogan
It's like 134, 135, so your head is like a slow, steady heart, because I'm hot as balls in there.
ari shaffir
400 calories I got.
joe rogan
What's it called?
bert kreischer
Oh, that's fucking great.
joe rogan
What's the company called?
I don't know.
Lux sauna.
tom segura
Wait, is that speed bags in a sauna?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Speed bags in a sauna.
They have chin-up bars.
There's certain saunas that they know.
I know a bunch of MMA fighters are using them.
But the thing is, this is definitely better than no sauna.
But the thing about the hot sauna, this is what Laird Hamilton told me.
bert kreischer
Laird Hamilton does it with oven mitts.
joe rogan
Well, he gets on an Airdyne bike.
But he does it in a regular dry sauna.
ari shaffir
Wait, so what's wrong with the infrared?
joe rogan
Nothing.
No, it's great for you.
bert kreischer
Infrared's meant to increase your core body temperature before your skin.
joe rogan
The studies on sauna and longevity and health that came out of Finland were these really amazing studies that I was just citing.
And that's with a regular sauna.
And the thing about the regular sauna is it's more uncomfortable, but the more uncomfortable one is the one that jacks your heart rate up, and it also makes your body work harder, and that's what produces the heat shock proteins.
At least that's what I've been told, and this is talking to Dr. Rhonda Patrick and Laird Hamilton.
Andrew Huberman and all these scientists where they're talking about the specific things that happen in your body.
Your body produces cytokines.
It produces these anti-inflammatory heat shock proteins that are just fucking phenomenal for everything.
Dude, I crave it so bad.
When I'm on the road and I come home, sometimes I'll get home at night and everyone's asleep, I'll just fire up the fucking sauna.
ari shaffir
That's so great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's the dream.
My dad has one in his basement, and it's just like, they all go to sleep.
It's the best thing to have right there.
You sleep so well.
joe rogan
It makes you feel so relaxed when you're done.
And with the combination of that and the cold plunge, so when I get home, I get in the sauna, I got a Seleuze sauna, and then I got that Morosco Forge at home, and we have the Blue Cube here, which is pretty dope, too.
The Blue Cube cold plunge, the water circulates, so it's like you're in a fucking river.
It's like, yeah!
You never get a thermal layer around your skin, so you're never comfortable.
When you get out of that fucking thing after three minutes, you're like, ah.
The weight of the world is gone.
bert kreischer
Did you ever see the video I did where I had my whoop on, and I did my heart rate in the sauna, and then I went right into the polar plunge, and it went from 145 to 65 in like three minutes.
ari shaffir
Wow.
bert kreischer
See if you can find it.
It's sped up, so you can see it, but my whoop, I fucking...
I can't tell if I slept good unless I look at my fucking recovery next morning.
unidentified
What is that strap?
bert kreischer
It's a fancy strap.
joe rogan
What is it, like a tie-dye?
bert kreischer
No, it's camo.
tom segura
Do you have different recovery since you stopped drinking?
bert kreischer
Oh, well, my recovery on tequila is better than my recovery without alcohol.
That's insane.
Look at this, so 141, right?
140, and then I just get in the sauna, you'll see it.
joe rogan
Who did this video for you?
bert kreischer
I did.
joe rogan
How do they do that?
bert kreischer
You can go on Whoop.
They have a video thing.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
bert kreischer
Where you can record yourself.
I do it every time I go in the sauna.
I record my heart rate dropping.
joe rogan
And so you go right in and look at...
bert kreischer
I gotta keep my hand out so my Whoop monitors it.
ari shaffir
Is this next to your old place?
bert kreischer
That's my new house.
joe rogan
If you put your hand under, the Whoop won't monitor it?
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
Wow, that's quick.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, you gotta take out a shower.
joe rogan
It's dropping your heart down.
bert kreischer
In two minutes, I'm already in the 70s.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
That's wild.
bert kreischer
Isn't that crazy?
It's just 66 in three minutes.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
ari shaffir
And then back up a little.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
tom segura
What temperature do you keep your cold plunge at?
ari shaffir
Your dick looks so small in that.
joe rogan
Yeah, dick does not look the same size.
ari shaffir
Can we back that up and see the dick?
bert kreischer
Can we zoom in?
unidentified
I love that cold plunge.
joe rogan
Yeah, cold plungees are the best.
bert kreischer
They're just not priced right.
In my opinion.
ari shaffir
What do you mean?
Price right?
bert kreischer
For the average person listening, they're going, oh, I should get one.
And then you go and you're like, oh, it's $12,000.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it should be like $800.
Some of them are more.
joe rogan
The really good ones are even more.
Are they really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tom segura
I got one sent to me by Cold Plunge, I think the name of the company.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
It's great.
joe rogan
They're expensive.
But you can always just get water and ice.
You know, you just fill a tub up with cold water and go to the fucking, you know...
ari shaffir
The old football ones with just a metal tin.
bert kreischer
Gets pricey.
Gets pricey.
joe rogan
Does it?
bert kreischer
Ice?
That's how I used to do it, was with a bathtub.
And how we do it on the road, we travel with a bathtub.
You can get ice out of venues cheap, but no one's performing in fucking venues that have ice.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
It's about $300 for...
Oh, fuck.
I used to go to North Hollywood Ice.
It's $300 for 300 pounds of ice, and you need definitely like 100 pounds of ice to be able to do a cold plunge in.
ari shaffir
So you gotta play a bunch each time.
joe rogan
So then you think about if you use it for a year, you're really better off getting a real cold plunge.
bert kreischer
That's why they're priced the way they are.
joe rogan
Well, it's complicated.
The Morosco develops actual ice.
I climb in it, and I'm pushing ice away to get in there.
tom segura
But you do 34 degrees?
34. You're fucking out of your mind.
bert kreischer
I'm 42. Yeah.
I do 42. It's very doable.
I do four minutes and do some box breathing in there.
joe rogan
I don't think you notice the difference between 40 and 30. Really?
It's just cold as fuck.
tom segura
I notice the difference because I got mine.
bert kreischer
I can tell the difference in the 30s.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
I got mine at 50. I started at 50 just to see what it was.
And I was like, oh, this is cold.
I mean, if you're going from nothing to 50, you're like, it's cold as fuck to get into 50 degrees.
And then I started lowering it.
And I felt like within days, I could notice the difference going to like 46 felt so much colder than 50. And it was only four degrees.
joe rogan
My daughter's friends were over the house.
And I told them I'd give them $1,000 if they could do a minute in it.
I gave three kids $1,000.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
12-year-olds.
And the parents were like, what the fuck?
I'm like, they earned it.
They earned it.
I just wanted to show them that they could do it.
tom segura
And were they fucking losing their minds, or they were pretty concerned?
joe rogan
And they got out, woo!
And they're fucking flexing.
unidentified
Slay!
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Dude, I met a guy at the schvitz who's a fan of yours.
unidentified
It was fun!
joe rogan
That's great!
unidentified
It was fun!
bert kreischer
I took $300 in a plastic bag and put a rock in it at a party, and I threw it in the pool.
And I go, who wasn't?
unidentified
One of Georgia's friends fully closed dives in the pool!
Why not?
bert kreischer
Yeah, why not?
unidentified
It's fucking awesome!
joe rogan
But these kids were so pumped, and their parents were like, are you serious?
Like, yeah, look, it's like, for them to do, it's a hard thing to do.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
And I'm showing them, if you can do this very difficult thing, a minute and a cold plunge when you're fucking...
ari shaffir
It's very hard.
30 seconds is like enough.
joe rogan
You're 90 pounds, and you're 12 years old.
unidentified
Yeah.
Sure.
tom segura
Were their parents like, hey, Joe, can I get a grand to find something?
joe rogan
Probably were, but they probably didn't want to say it.
bert kreischer
You know, that's the story that will last longest with you in your life, is those kids will never fucking forget that.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And they're just thinking about all the things.
I gave them $100 bills, too.
Chris, hundreds.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
God, I love that.
I love that energy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I used to do Chinese New Years.
We do a big Chinese New Years.
Our friends are Chinese.
And everyone dresses in red.
And I get, like, whatever the year is, I get that all in crisp ones.
And then I make kids gamble for it.
And I make them do shit.
It's very Chinese.
Very Chinese.
unidentified
Very Chinese.
bert kreischer
We play a game called Spoons, where, you know, you put five spoons on the table, six kids are playing, and you pass cards, go around, and...
And anytime anyone gets four of a kind, everyone reaches for a spoon and they fight for it.
And I'll put a hundred bucks.
I go, alright, Game of Spoons, a hundred bucks.
And you just watch kids.
A hundred bucks to a kid is a lot.
That's the fucking best.
Oliver Stone thought I was a fucking lunatic.
joe rogan
Why did Oliver Stone think you were a lunatic?
Did you just name drop Oliver Stone?
bert kreischer
He was there, as Tom knows it.
He was there, and I was pretty drunk, and I was fucking shirtless, making kids fight.
tom segura
And he was like, I'm such a big fan, I love The Godfather, and Stone was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
ari shaffir
I love The Godfather!
unidentified
Hammered!
bert kreischer
I love The Godfather!
joe rogan
Didn't you fight in Vietnam?
unidentified
No!
He so did not feel my energy.
joe rogan
He's a weed smoker.
Oliver Stone.
I smoked weed with Oliver Stone.
That was awesome.
ari shaffir
We smoked weed and talked about JFK. That is your dream conversation.
joe rogan
The only thing that could be better if he knows a lot about the pyramids.
It was amazing.
It was because, like, he's talking about the events that led up to the JFK assassination and all the cover-up and everything after the fact, and he's citing it from memory.
I mean, in-depth details of the Kennedy assassination, just right from memory.
And this is, like, around the time that the Showtime documentary on the – I don't know if you've ever seen it.
tom segura
It's got a Showtime series on the JFK. I saw his series where he went to Russia.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, with Putin?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He went to Russia with Putin and they watched Dr. Strangelove.
tom segura
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, they watched that Kubrick film.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
Amazing.
tom segura
Amazing, yeah.
And they talked about, you know, all of kind of Putin policies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
With Putin?
tom segura
Yeah, with him.
joe rogan
He said that Putin was being treated for cancer back then.
tom segura
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I bet they got a new treatment that no one knows about.
joe rogan
Well, they definitely have new treatments.
There was a treatment that was just in the news the other day where they get...
What was it?
It's like a version of the herpes virus.
Google this.
There's like a mild version of the herpes virus that they gave someone.
They injected it into them and it killed their cancer.
bert kreischer
Shut up!
That's something I'd love to discover.
On the sly, you're like, you know, no one that has herpes has never gotten cancer.
ari shaffir
Joe List doesn't have cancer.
unidentified
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jamie, there it is.
A man's cancer vanished after he was injected with a weakened herpes virus in promising clinical trial.
Imagine that, like guys with herpes would just be lining up to bang chicks with breast cancer.
ari shaffir
I can live, but I can only fuck sluts.
bert kreischer
How great would it be to have to go catch herpes to cure your cancer?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Imagine if you're a woman and you have ovarian cancer, and they're like, I got good news and bad news.
The bad news is you got ovarian cancer.
The good news is my cousin has herpes, and he's willing to cure you.
The only way, but you've got to get it all the way up in there, so he's got to shoot a live one down the hatch.
tom segura
He's going to have to be there a few times.
joe rogan
So we're going to have to plan it with your ovulation to make sure that you're not getting his pregnant, his baby.
bert kreischer
Pretty wild, though.
tom segura
That's incredible.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's one of the cool things is like, you know, they find things out sometimes accidentally.
tom segura
You always wonder, too, what the most powerful people have access to.
Yeah.
But then something will happen, like Paul Allen, you know, the Microsoft co-founder?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
He died.
joe rogan
Well, he was really unhealthy and didn't exercise at all.
bert kreischer
At all.
tom segura
But he just got, I think, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, or whatever, some cancer, and then he just declined and died.
joe rogan
He was very obese.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he also, just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you get after it.
Like, try to chase down what's wrong.
tom segura
Right, right.
joe rogan
Because the other people in your life are like, this motherfucker dies, okay.
unidentified
Paid!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Other level paid.
Billions of dollars.
You probably wouldn't be really encouraging them to go to the oncologist.
Like, you look good.
I look like gray cardboard.
ari shaffir
These doctors don't know what they're talking about.
tom segura
You need a rest, man.
ari shaffir
You need meditation.
joe rogan
All you need to do is just breathe.
ari shaffir
Eat an apple, you're fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta be good.
Have some greens.
tom segura
I think his sister, somebody who had nothing to do with anything, just took over his estate.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
tom segura
It just happens to be his sister.
joe rogan
Yeah, it happens to be his sister, and now she's ballin'.
That's gotta be wild.
You didn't do anything to earn it, and then all of a sudden you have billions.
ari shaffir
There's that great Bill Burbit about Tiger Woods' ex-wife.
He's like, you didn't stand over an eight-foot putt with a fucking green jacket on the line, having the yips, having to fucking do it.
You got half a billion?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, and then he had a bit about Kobe Bryant, too.
Same kind of bit.
bert kreischer
I made that joke last night on stage.
ari shaffir
What?
bert kreischer
About when I was talking about that age-appropriate lady.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
bert kreischer
I said, those are the eyes you want to look in when you die.
Eyes that are your age.
You don't want to look at some 21-year-old girl on your deathbed.
She's like, hurry up, I have yoga class.
ari shaffir
Licking her lips.
joe rogan
Yeah, ooh.
She's got the rolled-up mat under her armpit while you're dying.
bert kreischer
On your deathbed, you will see someone.
unidentified
Yes!
Bleak!
Bleak!
ari shaffir
She's on her phone, swiping.
joe rogan
Her fucking hot yoga instructor is ready to comfort her.
bert kreischer
Yeah, get me on some anti-aging shit.
I don't want to die.
Let's talk about Dana White.
joe rogan
You've got to stop drinking.
We'll get to Dana White.
But this is why...
unidentified
We should tell him what Andrew Huberman told him.
joe rogan
What did Andrew Huberman tell him?
tom segura
We were on the phone with him during a podcast, and he had just posted that week about...
He'll have topics and themes for his podcast, right?
And it was just all about alcohol.
There is just clear data that is undeniable that alcohol has negative effects on you.
And it is undeniable.
And here's all the data, you know, breaking down how it affects the brain and the organs of the system.
And then he's like, well, I mean, like, what can, you know, can I drink?
And Andrew's like, well, yes.
Studies show that if you want to have one to two drinks, and he goes, a week.
A week?
Well, that's what Andrew's saying.
That would be fine.
And Burst's like, a little bit more.
joe rogan
There was a study recently that linked decline in cognitive function to abstinence from alcohol.
tom segura
To abstinence from alcohol?
joe rogan
Yeah, abstinence from alcohol.
Dementia decline from alcohol is correlated with abstinence from alcohol.
See if you can find that, Jamie.
ari shaffir
Correlated.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, they think that people who don't drink alcohol, I don't know if correlation doesn't equal causation, right?
But there's some sort of a connection.
I think it's a relaxation thing.
And I was talking about this with my dad last time, my stepdad.
He's actually my dad.
I should call him my dad.
He has a lot of past going into that statement.
He's a great guy.
I love him.
But we were talking about it.
He has always been a guy after work, works hard, has a drink.
Maybe two.
Just relaxes.
And I was like, I think there's something to be said for that.
I think this is something to be said for just the way it makes you feel.
Increased risk for all-cause dementia and people who abstain from alcohol.
A recent addiction journal paper, researchers performed an in-depth analysis of the alcohol-dementia relationship and determined whether certain levels of alcohol consumption increases the risk of dementia.
And so they found out that there's an increase in dementia.
Dementia generally affects the elderly and geriatric patients, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Global presence of dementia, what does it say here?
Excessive alcohol consumption in midlife can cause significant neurotoxic effects on the brain as compared to other risk factors such as high blood pressure and diabetes.
Despite these different reports, views of population-based observational studies indicate that alcohol-dementia relationship is J-shaped.
More specifically, low levels of alcohol may provide some juice.
More specifically, low levels of alcohol may provide some benefit in reducing the risk of dementia, whereas excessive alcohol consumption, BERT, likely increases the risk of dementia in a dose-dependent manner.
So I think there's something about, like, you get home, you fucking hard day at the office, have a cocktail, you're like...
bert kreischer
That's how I do it.
joe rogan
I think relaxation is so goddamn important.
bert kreischer
That's my brand.
tom segura
Massage therapy.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
It's fucking so good.
joe rogan
Just enjoying life, man.
You remember I texted you when I was in Italy on vacation?
unidentified
Yes, I do.
tom segura
I've never seen you happier in your life.
joe rogan
I was drunk.
I was eating pasta.
I felt so good.
ari shaffir
Yeah, go away from all responsibility.
joe rogan
With my family.
With my family, looking at the ocean.
tom segura
Yeah, it was rad.
joe rogan
What the fuck is it about the ocean?
It's so different.
ari shaffir
It's so relaxing.
tom segura
We spent the summer at the ocean, and here we live on a lake.
There's no comparison.
Lakes are rad.
joe rogan
Lakes are nice, but ocean is the motherfucker.
tom segura
It is a totally different thing.
joe rogan
I got a house once for three months when I was in Malibu.
Yeah.
We were getting our kitchen remodeled, and I said, let's just rent a house.
We were renting a house on the water.
It's fucking amazing.
You're eating breakfast, and the water's right there.
ari shaffir
You just stare out at it.
joe rogan
Those rich people aren't stupid, dude.
There's a reason why they're paying fucking $100 million for a house that's like a quarter of an acre.
bert kreischer
The ultimate was, you know, we'd always talked about surfing, and I've always wanted to surf.
So I set a goal for myself.
I had two months off, no touring.
I said, I'm going to go to Hawaii at the end of two months.
I'm going to lose weight, get into the 240s.
And I'm going to get...
Because my hardest part is standing up on a board when you're fat.
So I lost the weight.
Flew my daughter right before she went to college.
My sister, my cameraman, and my assistant down.
We all went to Hawaii State at Turtle Bay.
Did Jamie O'Brien's surf experience.
And I surfed.
Like I surfed a fucking solid two days.
Caught probably 25 waves.
And there is a genuine, surreal connection with the Earth when you're on a board sliding down a wave.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And you're moving over on the wave and you're just watching it.
It's the coolest fucking thing that I've ever done.
And then you look at these guys like...
Like, Nathan Florence and Kai Lenny and Koa Rothman, who do, they're like fucking savages, and they're going into Jaws, towed in, and you're just like...
Those guys are wild.
joe rogan
That's a different thing, though.
That's a different thing.
Those guys are adrenaline junkies to the extreme.
bert kreischer
But the connection those guys have with the ocean is so primal.
I mean, you're right.
tom segura
Dude, do you know what would happen every day?
Because we did the same thing.
We rented a house in Malibu.
Because the tide changes every day, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
And when at low tide, sometimes low tide would be, let's say, at 8 a.m.
So you'd look out, and the water would be so far out that there would be rocks that you normally don't see, right?
And you're like, oh, wow.
You can walk...
Into the ocean because the tide's so low.
Dude, high tide made me respect and fear the ocean so much.
ari shaffir
Why?
unidentified
What do you mean?
tom segura
Because it would come up and hit the house with such violence on some days that you would go, if I, an adult who can swim, were down here right now, most likely you would drown.
ari shaffir
Smashed.
tom segura
And you would get pulled out and die.
joe rogan
Yeah, that happens all the time.
tom segura
I know, but when you're living there, when you're living there, you're like, holy shit.
You're seeing it every day.
You look down.
joe rogan
Well, you know the difference for me was at night.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
During the day, the ocean is like this beautiful, inviting, wonderful thing.
At night, it's dark.
And you just realize, oh my god, that's like a fucking hundred trillion gallons of water.
Like, what the fuck is that?
bert kreischer
The guy who discovered Hawaii, not discovered, obviously there are people there first, John Cook.
John Cook, is that his name?
unidentified
Captain Cook.
bert kreischer
They ate him?
ari shaffir
They ate him.
bert kreischer
Really?
They didn't eat him.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
bert kreischer
No, they didn't eat him.
I just, when I was in Hawaii, I watched, I listened to the documentary.
They ate him.
joe rogan
I liked Ari's story better.
ari shaffir
They killed him and ate him.
joe rogan
Let's go with Ari's story.
bert kreischer
Well, you know what?
He couldn't swim.
Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
He got in a boat and he couldn't swim?
unidentified
How long does it take to learn to swim?
bert kreischer
That's how they got him.
joe rogan
I think I could learn to swim in about 10 minutes.
It's not like doing jujitsu.
It's you fucking do this.
bert kreischer
I think it's so built up in your head that by the time you get in there, it's panic.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you could laugh.
ari shaffir
You live on a boat.
How do you not learn how to swim?
bert kreischer
He never learned how to swim.
That's how they got him.
He went in and he tried to escape, get to the water, and he just had to stop at the water because he's like, I don't know what to do in there.
He fucking traveled the world, discovered the Sandwich Islands and all of Hawaii.
tom segura
They're called the Sandwich Islands?
ari shaffir
In Italy, they're called the Sangwich Islands.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
What a fucking weird thing to not know how to do.
I can understand if you don't grow up near a pool and you never learn.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
If you're a boat captain, it's ridiculous.
bert kreischer
There's a lot of comics that don't know how to swim.
joe rogan
Who?
bert kreischer
I'm not gonna say his name.
joe rogan
Say his name.
bert kreischer
No, it's not cool.
ari shaffir
Call them out.
joe rogan
Well, just spell it out.
unidentified
S-E-B-A. Maniscalco?
ari shaffir
He doesn't know how to swim?
joe rogan
Oh, I could teach him.
ari shaffir
Isn't he embarrassed?
joe rogan
Why aren't you embarrassed?
bert kreischer
I'm sorry, Sebastian.
He's a great guy.
It's one of my favorite bits.
I watched him talk about it on stage.
joe rogan
About how he can't swim?
bert kreischer
Crying, laughing.
joe rogan
He talked about it on stage, how he can't swim, and you won't say it.
bert kreischer
But it's his bit.
I don't want to fuck with his bit.
joe rogan
But that's not fucking with his bit.
bert kreischer
I went backstage, and I was like, that's fucking hilarious.
unidentified
And he's like, eh?
bert kreischer
And I go, you really can't swim?
And he goes, no.
He goes, no, not everyone can swim.
I go...
joe rogan
He's got a pool.
bert kreischer
I go, everyone can swim?
What?
joe rogan
He's got a pool.
ari shaffir
What, did he put the floaties in his arm?
bert kreischer
No, he was taking swimming lessons, and it was hilarious that you're a grown man.
joe rogan
So, if he took swimming lessons, now he knows how to swim.
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
Fuck out of here.
ari shaffir
He failed his lessons?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
ari shaffir
He had to keep fishing him out?
bert kreischer
He did it on stage and I was crying laughing.
tom segura
It's kind of humiliating to be an adult.
bert kreischer
He has a kid.
joe rogan
You know what's really amazing?
ari shaffir
When you kick and swim better than you?
joe rogan
I had a dog, my Mastiff, he never learned how to swim.
He just was not interested in swimming.
I'd pick him up, I'd take him in the water, and you'd just swim right back to the stairs.
I'm like, come on, Johnny, let's go.
Let's try, yeah.
Marshall, the golden retriever, it's like in his DNA. When he was a puppy, when he was a puppy, we were in the pool, and he's like, fuck yeah, woo!
tom segura
Some kids take to it quick.
My oldest took to it real quick.
joe rogan
Yeah?
tom segura
Yeah, he swims like a fucking lunatic now.
joe rogan
I think if they just do it early, it's fun.
ari shaffir
You gotta do it early.
You gotta get your dog in the pool right away.
bert kreischer
Does Marshall dive down?
Oh yeah, he doesn't.
ari shaffir
Dives?
joe rogan
He would.
I mean, if the ball's underwater, he'll go underwater.
That's a water dog, though.
He's a golden retriever.
bert kreischer
Mastiffs are not our old Mastiff, Priscilla.
The funniest fucking look on her face one time, she fell into the pool.
We didn't know she fell into the pool.
She fell into the pool, she got herself out of the pool, and I saw this look in her face.
She's by the pool, and you could see it in her eyes like, I just witnessed death, but I didn't figure it out.
And I was like, wait!
Why are you soaking wet?
Why are you soaking wet?
And she's looking at me like, I almost just died!
No one was gonna fucking save me!
joe rogan
Oh my god, the poor dog.
ari shaffir
Dude, I get bandit when we just have the look of like, I'm gonna put her in the pool.
Like, she'll be fine by the pool, and you look at her, she knows the look, and she's like, get the fuck away from me!
And then she just starts running away.
She knows what we're gonna do.
joe rogan
Was she a rescue?
ari shaffir
Yeah, but as a baby.
joe rogan
And you just never got her into a pool?
ari shaffir
We tried, and then she just wasn't interested.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta make it fun.
You gotta make it fun.
But Marshall, I didn't have to do anything.
It's in his DNA. It's in his DNA, which is really wild.
bert kreischer
He's got webbed feet, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, he does.
Another thing that's really wild is the retriever aspect.
I didn't teach that dog at all to bring a ball back.
He just brings it back.
Like, the first time I ever threw a ball to him, he picks it up and he brings it back.
ari shaffir
Wow.
Knew how to fetch.
joe rogan
Instantly.
He doesn't know how to let it go, but he brings it back.
Like, the other day, I came home, I let him outside, and then I left the door open and went to the bathroom.
I took a leak.
I came out of the bathroom, and he's got a squirrel in his mouth.
ari shaffir
No!
joe rogan
Yeah, he killed a squirrel.
And he's just sitting there.
bert kreischer
He caught a squirrel?
joe rogan
Instantly.
ari shaffir
Proud, showing it off to you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
But he came to me to retrieve and bring a squirrel.
Whatever they did to breed those dogs, it's encoded in their memory.
It's encoded in their DNA. It's really wild.
You know, and it's also, those dogs, like Goldens, they are the nicest dogs.
ari shaffir
Oh, I like your dog a lot.
He's the best.
joe rogan
He's such a sweetie to everybody.
Everybody who comes over to my house, like, you're my best friend!
Like, new people that he just meets.
He starts whining.
He picks up a toy.
He always has to bring a toy to you.
And show, like, he brings something because, like, those dogs were rewarded for bringing back, like, birds.
Like, you'd shoot a bird.
They'd grab the bird, bring it back to you.
They'd retrieve it.
And he just will bring something to you immediately.
tom segura
It's funny when you see what they're...
bert kreischer
They're very gentle mouths, too.
joe rogan
Oh, they're so gentle.
tom segura
What they're bred for, because we had Brussels Griffons, and they're bred for rat chasers.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
You know?
So when they see rodents, squirrels, and stuff, they'll be like...
And then they're like...
You'll see them freak the fuck out.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen that documentary, Rats, on Netflix?
tom segura
No.
ari shaffir
It's about New York.
joe rogan
Jack Russell Terriers.
Well, it's about a lot of cities, and it's also about the countryside.
Jack Russell Terriers were actually designed or bred for killing rats.
They're really aggressive with rats, and they fucking tear them apart.
And in this documentary, they use them to get rats.
And so they let these dogs loose, and they find rats in this countryside.
ari shaffir
Yeah, there's a service.
joe rogan
Tear them apart.
ari shaffir
There's a service you can get to go if you have a backyard in New York where you just have these terriers just piss all over your yard.
Hunt some rats piss and the rat's like, that's not a safe yard.
Get out of there.
joe rogan
They're smart as shit, man.
In that documentary, here they are.
There's those little dogs.
So these guys, they're digging holes to try to find these rats.
Because, like, there's these rat little, you know, dens and shit, and these dogs find them, and they're the cutest little dogs, man, but not to rats.
ari shaffir
Oh, nice!
joe rogan
Murder it!
unidentified
Murder it!
tom segura
Oh, they do?
They kill it?
joe rogan
Yeah, oh, they rip it to pieces, man.
Look at this.
All of them.
I mean, it's just fucking wild.
bert kreischer
That's crazy.
ari shaffir
That little one's like, give me some!
joe rogan
But meanwhile, these rats have fucking diseases, so your dog is swallowing the plague.
tom segura
Yeah, right?
ari shaffir
Not on the countryside, though.
bert kreischer
Yeah, not out there.
joe rogan
Probably not.
Yeah, you're right.
So what do they get in the plague?
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
The guts!
bert kreischer
Fuck.
joe rogan
What do they get in the diseases from?
Like, our garbage?
Our sewers?
Like, where are they getting all their diseases?
tom segura
Well, they'll live in...
It must be sewage.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Because they live in...
They'll run around all the sewage.
ari shaffir
You know about...
Is it a king rat?
joe rogan
Oh, Rat King.
ari shaffir
The tails get tied up.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get knotted up together somehow.
ari shaffir
And they can't move.
joe rogan
And they die.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
It gets into a knot.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
Look at that.
Rat King.
bert kreischer
I thought that was Theo.
tom segura
God damn.
joe rogan
It is Theo, but that's his nickname.
But that's a real thing.
They get tangled up together and they die.
tom segura
I had no idea.
joe rogan
I don't understand why they get that tangled.
tom segura
Have you seen banana rats?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
No, it's a banana rat.
tom segura
I saw that in Cuba.
They have an infestation of banana rats.
ari shaffir
What does that mean?
tom segura
Well, they're enormous.
They look like dogs.
bert kreischer
Oh, that's right.
They would swim out the sea and people would rescue them thinking they're dogs.
tom segura
You're on the island, because we were doing Guantanamo Bay.
ari shaffir
Torturing people.
joe rogan
What are you doing out there?
tom segura
As it shows.
joe rogan
Working for Al-Qaeda.
Oh my god, look at the size of that thing!
tom segura
They're everywhere.
joe rogan
Holy, that's like a copy bar or something.
tom segura
Yeah, exactly.
And they're like, there's a- Look at his feet!
joe rogan
Look at the size of that thing, dude!
tom segura
They pay a dude, a couple people, just to go around at night with a.22, and they're like, just shoot as many as you can, because you can't keep them down.
joe rogan
Did you ever see- When Attell had that show?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was this show called?
ari shaffir
Insomniac.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
They hunted nutrias?
bert kreischer
Nutrias!
tom segura
Same idea.
unidentified
In New Orleans, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Same idea.
joe rogan
Nutria is an invasive species that, I forget where it came from, but they got over in America on ships or something like that, and now they're everywhere.
tom segura
I've never screamed higher pitch in my life than when we pulled up to do a gig in Guantanamo Bay.
And the guy driving the van, he's like a naval base, you know, pulls up and the lights are on.
It's night.
And he's like, oh, there's a banana rat right there.
You guys want to see it?
Like, they're not aggressive or anything.
They're just feeding on the grass.
And we're like, yeah.
So he leaves the lights on from the van.
And we all start walking closer and closer, taking our time step by step.
And then we're like a few feet away and we kind of bend down.
And one of the guys takes his fingers and goes like this up my back.
unidentified
I've never screamed higher in my life.
tom segura
Terrified.
It scared the shit out of me.
They look like dogs, dude.
joe rogan
Nutris are huge.
And Nutris, people eat them.
Apparently they're delicious.
bert kreischer
That would be fun to have you in your backyard just with a.22 just at night.
I shot a rat one time with my BB gun at our old house.
I didn't feel so good about it.
tom segura
Really?
bert kreischer
I felt really shitty.
tom segura
It was a rat, though?
bert kreischer
It was crawling up on the wire, and I had my BB gun.
I was like, I wonder if I can get this.
joe rogan
How old were you?
unidentified
I was 40. It was a recent show.
ari shaffir
It doesn't feel great to kill an animal.
tom segura
I don't know.
Killing rats feels good.
joe rogan
Yeah, here's Attell's.
This is Insomniac.
Look, these things are fucking giant.
ari shaffir
Look how young he is.
unidentified
It's the same thing, yeah.
joe rogan
So they were killing them to try to diminish the population, but in a lot of the country, people eat them.
See if you can find Nutria cooking, because apparently they taste good.
ari shaffir
See how much gas it cost back then.
joe rogan
They take them, it was probably 30 cents.
ari shaffir
Your brain is so fucked up.
joe rogan
California is so fucked up now with gas.
My friend took a photo of a pump near San Francisco.
bert kreischer
We're talking about how your dog wants to dive and wants to retrieve, and Ari's looking at gas prices.
joe rogan
When Ari was doing really well when Ari was not that you're not doing really well now But like when he started doing really well and had a Comedy Central show and he's killing like dude get a fucking BMW Yeah, get yourself a nice three series just something that feels good to drive like it's too expensive Why would I do that?
What's the what's the point?
ari shaffir
It's just extra expense then I'm tied to that I went up and down too much You're on the borderline of getting a day job.
It's like, I'm glad I didn't spend that money.
bert kreischer
That's ingrained in, I think, guys, me and you, maybe not Tom as much, but I've always had a problem spending money.
Because I go, it goes away.
tom segura
You say that and you just keep buying houses?
ari shaffir
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
You own like five houses?
bert kreischer
I don't buy something.
Leanne buys something.
joe rogan
Oh, Leanne buys.
bert kreischer
I don't fucking buy anything.
I had a hard time buying this watch.
You remember me?
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
One of my favorite stories.
I go to this great watch dealer in Vegas.
You know her, I think.
You think you bought a watch from her.
Chappelle buys watches from her.
It's how you get the green light is that you know the person, and then they go, I bring out the inventory.
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
So I look at it, this watch, and she tells me.
joe rogan
Is that Rolex?
bert kreischer
Rolex.
It's a Submariner.
Ten grand.
ari shaffir
I've heard of that brand.
bert kreischer
And she goes, and I just can't pull myself to pull the trigger.
joe rogan
Ari's never had a watch either.
He doesn't wear a nice watch.
ari shaffir
Russell tried to give me a $10,000 watch.
I was like, don't.
And he's like, no, you need a watch.
Dude, stop.
joe rogan
You wouldn't wear a nice watch, like a good...
ari shaffir
I don't want it on my...
joe rogan
No?
bert kreischer
Put yours on his wrist and let him enjoy it.
joe rogan
Well, okay.
bert kreischer
So I'm sitting there, Ari.
ari shaffir
My arms are sore.
joe rogan
This is the one that's comfortable to because it's on a silicone strap.
That's my everyday walk-around watch.
I like it.
bert kreischer
So I'm sitting at the lady.
I'm having a hard time doing it.
I text Tom a picture of the watch.
joe rogan
He can barely use his arms.
Look at this guy.
tom segura
I can't believe it.
joe rogan
You should have seen him in the green room last night doing girl sit-ups.
Girl chin-ups.
Push-ups, rather, from his knees.
bert kreischer
How many could you do in a row right now, Ari?
ari shaffir
Real?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Three max.
tom segura
Wait, what?
joe rogan
Oh, his arms are gone.
His arms are destroyed.
You've got to realize, like, we have all been working out during this time.
Ari doesn't work out at all.
ari shaffir
Ever.
bert kreischer
It looks good on you, Ari.
tom segura
It does look good.
bert kreischer
That looks good.
ari shaffir
Don't you find out it kind of shifts up?
joe rogan
No, because you make it tighter, Stu.
tom segura
Make it tighter.
joe rogan
If you want a watch, I will get you a watch.
Why was the stupid in there?
Tell me.
bert kreischer
Joe, Joe, Joe, can I just greenlight it?
joe rogan
I would love to get you a watch.
bert kreischer
Please get him a watch.
joe rogan
I'll get you a watch.
bert kreischer
It's so much fun to wear.
joe rogan
I'll get you a nice Omega Aqua Terra.
It's a nice, kind of subtle, not too flashy, but a really well-made watch.
bert kreischer
Fuck that white gold sky-dweller.
joe rogan
Why's my wrist look high-dweller?
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Fucking bling him out.
bert kreischer
You'll make him be the whore he wants to be.
ari shaffir
You'll get me murdered in New York.
joe rogan
Yeah, I want to get him something that's under the radar, but it's a nice, really well-made automatic watch.
ari shaffir
This makes my wrist look daintier.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't.
bert kreischer
No, you actually look like a grown-up all of a sudden.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looks good.
It looks good on you.
I like it.
Do you want it?
ari shaffir
No, dude.
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
Okay.
Yeah, here we go.
Diamond Rolex.
ari shaffir
Yeah, right.
I'd wear that.
joe rogan
BALLING! Letting bitches know!
Right when your special comes out.
That's what you do.
Guys, I'm killing it with my special.
Put it out there.
It's only nine grand.
Come on.
bert kreischer
It's doable.
tom segura
What if you do, get one with like a Star of David on the dial.
Right?
joe rogan
Chew it up.
tom segura
For the promo style?
joe rogan
Yeah, why not?
If I got you a watch, would you wear it?
ari shaffir
I'm just not a watch wearer.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
You're a watch wearer when you wear a watch.
You're a swimmer when you get in the pool.
What the fuck are you talking about?
bert kreischer
Joe wasn't a watch guy.
Early on, old school Joe Rogan was not a watch guy.
I remember him saying, like, I'm not buying fucking fancy watches.
I got this G-Shock.
I wear this.
I love G-Shocks.
Oh, is that a Jewish watch?
joe rogan
I think that's Arabic letters.
ari shaffir
That's Arabic letters.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
That's a fucking beautiful watch.
But I'm not into diamonds, man.
I was at a jewelry store once, and this guy was explaining to me how they make diamonds now, like, artificially.
And he was like, yeah, but it's a real problem.
I go, why is it a real problem?
And he was coming at it from a diamond seller's perspective.
He's like, well, you know, I go, is it a real diamond?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's...
It's not legit because it doesn't come from the ground.
Is it a fucking diamond?
unidentified
Is it a diamond or not?
joe rogan
Yeah, but people get upset if they find out that it's artificial.
But it's an actual diamond.
If you make an actual diamond with a machine, why do you give a fuck if it came from the ground?
I would actually want it more if it came from technology.
I think that's kind of cool.
ari shaffir
And it's real.
bert kreischer
I want a blood diamond.
joe rogan
It's real.
It's not like a cubic zirconium.
bert kreischer
I want someone with one hand missing delivering it to me.
ari shaffir
I want a testimonial from the fucking orphan children.
joe rogan
But women do not want that fucking man-made diamond.
They want that one that is hard to get.
The one that's hard to get that came from fucking the middle of Africa.
ari shaffir
So it's not just about the beauty.
joe rogan
That's a fucking nice watch.
That's an Omega with a little earth in the center of it.
What is that?
Which model is that?
tom segura
Seamaster.
joe rogan
That's fucking beautiful.
bert kreischer
That's a good looking watch, Ari.
tom segura
That's a fucking gentleman's watch.
joe rogan
That's an Acutera.
bert kreischer
$47,000.
joe rogan
That's a little pricey.
That's a fucking beautiful watch, though.
Look at that goddamn thing.
That's $47,000.
unidentified
Isn't it crazy?
tom segura
It's because of the complications, though, for sure.
ari shaffir
Is that one of those self-winders?
joe rogan
Well, I think it's got a...
What is the complication on that?
tom segura
Well, it probably looks like it's...
If you go back to the dial, I'm sure it has, like, the first picture.
Only 87. Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a limited number.
bert kreischer
I'm going to tell you the one R1s.
joe rogan
Make more, stupid.
That doesn't make any sense.
Limited number of them.
bert kreischer
What's the one that Rolex made for Pan Am?
Rolex made a steel watch for Pan Am that, for a comedian, is the best watch and affordable.
Its dial up here is GMT. And its dial up here is so that when you go on the road, you can change it and it'll tell you the time of where you are, but you can keep it on New York time.
joe rogan
Oh, you do the math.
ari shaffir
Oh, interesting.
bert kreischer
I have no fucking idea.
joe rogan
It's three hours later.
I'm in New York.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, that is a problem.
bert kreischer
This is the one you want, Ari.
This is a beautiful watch.
joe rogan
That, you'll get robbed.
You'll get robbed.
Shut the fuck up, Ari.
Of course he'll rob you.
That's a goddamn Rolex.
If you have something that's under the radar, then you'll probably be alright.
tom segura
It's a hot watch, though.
bert kreischer
It's a hot watch.
You want something that doesn't look blingy.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you don't want to turn people off with looking at your wrist.
joe rogan
You don't want it to be blingy.
ari shaffir
Bert, you perform far away from people.
I perform right up on people.
joe rogan
They'll see it.
Yeah, if you're like right in the front row and some guy's wearing a $50,000 watch, that's a little distracting.
ari shaffir
You're looking at my arm the whole time.
tom segura
But you always say you have trouble spending money, and I don't believe it.
bert kreischer
Hold on.
Let me tell you.
This is my favorite story.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's another bullshit.
bert kreischer
So I sent Tom a text at this Rolex place in Vegas.
ari shaffir
Story checks out.
bert kreischer
And I text, and I say, a picture of the watch.
And he goes, are you getting it?
And I said, I don't think so.
tom segura
I have trouble spending money.
bert kreischer
I have a trouble spending money.
I leave the place.
ari shaffir
I said the guy from a Rolex store.
bert kreischer
I leave the place.
Well, I like looking at him, so I leave the place.
joe rogan
It must be fun for the dealer.
bert kreischer
Tom sends me a very heartfelt text.
Hey, man, you're busting your ass on the road.
You work nonstop.
You're gone two weeks at a time.
You have two podcasts.
It goes on in this really heartfelt text.
You deserve to treat yourself every now and then.
This is an affordable treat.
Do it for yourself.
And so I go back.
I buy the watch.
Next day, I'm sitting and having coffee, looking at the watch going, God damn it, I love this fucking watch.
I really love looking at it.
It cheers me up.
And I call Tom.
I said, hey man, I appreciate you sending me that message.
Leanne tried to convince me, and I wouldn't do it, but your message meant so much to me.
He's like, oh cool.
I go, what are you doing?
He goes, well, you know...
I sent you that message and I realized that shit applies to me too.
I'm in a Rolex store.
I'm buying a new Rolex.
unidentified
He bought a new Rolex the next day!
joe rogan
Tommy's my favorite guy to call about cars.
Because Tommy and me have the same love of cars.
We go off.
We go off and buy cars.
ari shaffir
I remember when he just bought the Porsche, the blue one, and then you got another one.
People were like, what?
joe rogan
What are you driving around?
bert kreischer
I don't know the name of it.
It's a Mercedes, but I don't know.
unidentified
How do you not know?
Is it a big one?
The white one?
bert kreischer
It's a big one.
tom segura
The white one.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a fucking great car.
unidentified
That's an S550.
tom segura
So S560, sorry.
joe rogan
That is a great fucking car.
I rented one like about two years ago or so on the road.
Oh my god, that's a great car.
They're so well-made.
They're so well-designed.
You get something out of those cars.
There's something that there's a feel that you get when you drive them.
You're like, yeah!
bert kreischer
I feel like a grown-up.
unidentified
It feels good.
bert kreischer
Listen to Steely Dan, have a cigar in it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Nice sound system.
They all have great audio now.
It used to be you had to buy a car and then put stereos in them.
ari shaffir
Post-market sound system, yeah.
joe rogan
I always used to do that.
First thing I used to do was buy a car.
I'd bring it to my guy.
tom segura
Now they're unreal.
joe rogan
Yeah, now the stereos are incredible.
They're in the car.
It's like, fuck, man.
tom segura
Yeah, car things are real.
You're lucky you don't have the car bug.
bert kreischer
Oh, dude.
ari shaffir
That's an expensive collection.
bert kreischer
I don't drive very often.
I always look at guys who are driving on sunset in a nice car, and I go, are you guys not partying tonight?
joe rogan
Oh, you're Ubering everywhere.
bert kreischer
I Uber everywhere.
joe rogan
You used to have that BMW. 5 Series.
That was a nice car.
bert kreischer
I said to Georgia, I said, Georgia, this is going to be your car.
She goes, I'm not driving a 5 Series BMW to school looking like a rich kid.
And I go, yeah, but we leased it.
We can buy it back for like $32,000.
She goes, Dad, I want a regular car like an Explorer.
I go, It's $52,000.
She goes, yeah, but I don't want to look like a rich kid.
I said, so I'm going to spend an extra $20,000 so you don't look like a fucking rich kid?
She was like, yeah.
ari shaffir
This kid played you.
joe rogan
That's smart.
No, that's actually smart.
She's smart.
You have a smart daughter.
She knows the impact of it.
She knows you're rich.
bert kreischer
She loves her car.
That 5 Series was the first car I got that I was like, Oh, this can be fun.
tom segura
Yeah, but when you showed up in the S-Class, you were big ballin', dude.
bert kreischer
I like that car.
joe rogan
That's a fucking great car.
The S-Class is the shit.
That is the shit.
You're in that thing, you feel like a fucking comfortable gentleman.
bert kreischer
Chocolate interior.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could smoke cigars.
bert kreischer
Driving back from the store the other night, listening to little fucking Daryl Hall and O's flying through the hills.
joe rogan
She's a man-eater.
Oh, here she comes.
bert kreischer
What was the song?
I was fucking jamming out.
Dance all day's love.
Dance all day's love.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
bert kreischer
Dance all day's.
It's nice to pull out of the store and just be sober.
joe rogan
Oh my god, my favorite thing was coming down Laurel, and I'd be listening to some fucking jamming Rage Against the Machine, headed to the store.
Wang Chung.
Oh my god.
Oh, it's Wang Chung.
bert kreischer
It's Wang Chung.
I didn't have my glasses on.
Well, it's a white guy.
I thought it was Daryl Hall.
joe rogan
Same guy.
ari shaffir
It looks about the same.
Good mullet.
joe rogan
That's a great song, too, though.
bert kreischer
Driving to the store is fun.
ari shaffir
On Laurel, you go fast, that's a fun drive.
joe rogan
It's also like you're on your way to the fucking promised land.
For us, as comics, the comedy store was mecca.
I remember being an open miker.
An open miker.
And I always knew that I had to get to the comedy store.
I'm like, if I'm going to be a comic, I have to get to the comedy store.
When Mitzi passed me as a paid regular, it was one of the best days of my life.
I remember that day.
I'm a real comic.
I can't believe I'm passed at the comedy store.
It was like...
That place, it was just not a comedy club, man.
ari shaffir
Did she tell you or did they call you the next day?
joe rogan
She told me.
You're really funny.
You're a paid regular now.
I was like, holy shit.
Holy shit.
I was on a TV show.
I didn't give a fuck about that show.
bert kreischer
I was 42 and I had TV shows, a successful touring comic.
I got passed at the store.
I didn't tell anyone.
I didn't say a word to anyone.
It was a big deal for me.
I was really nervous.
I got bumped by Louie.
I got bumped by Tosh.
I got bumped by Judd Apatow for my one paid regular spot.
It's midnight, and I get off stage, and I said this last night when I brought him on stage.
Tony Hinchcliffe pulls me aside, and he goes, I always have a soft spot in my heart for that guy.
He goes, hey, congratulations.
I said, what?
And he goes, first paid regular spot.
He's like, let's go do a shot together.
No one knew.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
bert kreischer
And I went outside, and he was like, it's a big deal.
joe rogan
It's a big fucking deal.
bert kreischer
I did a toast, I did a thing, and I was like, fuck yeah, thank you, Tony.
I had a career, but it meant so much to me.
joe rogan
There's two things that I remember from the store that were like landmark moments.
One was becoming a paid regular, and two, Paul Mooney told me I was funny.
tom segura
Wow, that's pretty cool.
bert kreischer
Paul Mooney told you you were funny?
joe rogan
Paul Mooney.
ari shaffir
Paul Mooney never said to anybody.
joe rogan
And Paul Mooney did not like me when I first got there.
I was this cute little fucking dummy.
ari shaffir
You're funny.
joe rogan
I was just like, you know, I was like, okay, but one night he saw me, it was like 14 people in the crowd.
And I went up and I did my act hard.
I did the full thing.
And he was in the back of the room.
I don't remember what bit it was, but I remember he shook my hand, he put his hand on my shoulder, he goes, you're a funny motherfucker.
tom segura
That's cool.
joe rogan
I had to leave.
I had to go out in the hallway.
I was like, whoa.
ari shaffir
Try to be cool.
Try to be like, oh, cool.
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
I was tingling.
Like, Paul Mooney, people don't know how goddamn good Paul Mooney was.
ari shaffir
He had power.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He would write, too.
When shit would go down, something would happen, and he would have like 10 minutes of it that night.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, there was the Spirit Airline.
Well, it wasn't Spirit.
It was like one of them budget airlines that crashed in Florida, and he had this bit about these poor people clutching onto their purse while alligators were eating them.
unidentified
It was like the day after the crash!
joe rogan
And then he was like, that's right, motherfucker, I write.
I write.
bert kreischer
Patrice pulled me aside one night in New York, and we were at Caroline's.
We did some show, so we go to Edinburgh.
And everyone starts leaving, and he grabs me and goes, don't leave.
I said, why?
He goes, Paul Mooney, this is a gift, because I didn't know who Paul Mooney was.
ari shaffir
Yeah, right.
White people didn't know who he was.
bert kreischer
Paul Mooney's here.
And I go, who the fuck's that?
And he goes, you're sitting.
You're watching him.
So I ordered a beer, and I sat down, and I go, I was like, it's getting late, Patrice.
And he goes, shut up, motherfucker.
Look who's behind you.
And I turn around, and it's Eddie Murphy.
And he goes, if Eddie Murphy's coming to watch him, we're staying.
And me and Patrice watched Paul Mooney and Paul Mooney had a bottle of champagne on stage, drank the whole fucking thing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, those little bottles he would have.
joe rogan
He would drink them and he would make a joke and then like hold the bottle up with two fingers.
bert kreischer
And you'd hear Eddie Murphy, whatever his laugh is.
ari shaffir
Dude, your impressions are on point here.
bert kreischer
Say it at this and I'll bang it out.
Do it.
unidentified
Go, go, go.
ari shaffir
Taiwanese.
Hello!
unidentified
Nailed it.
bert kreischer
Pretty good, pretty good.
I do it all day.
I do it all day.
Give me a comedian.
I'll do an impression of him.
joe rogan
I'll never forget being in the main room.
Being in the main room one night and I called you up and you were on a motorcycle in Vietnam.
bert kreischer
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, you gotta quit that show.
bert kreischer
That was a good bit.
I should do that.
That was a good story.
Because he called and I was like, he's like, what are you doing?
I was drunk.
I'm high.
I'm running through motorcycles through rice paddies in Vietnam.
And he was like, you are the fucking machine.
You got to fucking get away from this Travel Channel shit.
Be a comic.
Do this.
Fucking write.
If you don't talk about this on stage, you're wasting your life.
Fuck this.
He was like, this is who you are.
These experiences who you are.
And I was like, fuck yeah!
And I'm still high and drunk, hanging up with Joe, and I'm flying on the motorcycle now.
I'm like, I'm a fucking machine!
And then my wife calls, and I was like, she's like, what's up?
And I was like, well, it works so well with Joe.
I'm drunk, I'm high on a motorcycle, and I'm flying through Rice Paddy's in Vietnam.
She's like, you dumb motherfucker!
unidentified
You're a father of two, you have high blood pressure, walk that thing home!
bert kreischer
Walk it home.
ari shaffir
What a different way of looking at the same situation.
joe rogan
Can you imagine, though, being a woman, and you're waiting on this guy, and he's making a living.
You're the breadwinner of the household, and you're a wild person.
You're out there drinking.
You're on a motorcycle.
You're in another country.
tom segura
He's a crazy person.
joe rogan
If you break your leg, they're just going to saw it off.
Like, what the fuck?
tom segura
Terrified.
joe rogan
I mean, imagine counting on someone like you, whereas a friend is like, yes!
Go for it!
But I don't, you know, I don't rely on you for money.
Like, I couldn't imagine.
bert kreischer
That's funny, I rely on you for money.
joe rogan
Not anymore, you don't.
unidentified
Hey guys, this weekend, Youngstown, Charlottesville, Florence, and Carlston.
joe rogan
BertBertBert.com.
Is it BertKreiser.com now?
unidentified
BertBertBert.
ari shaffir
Still BertBertBert.
bert kreischer
Something's Burning is back.
Are you going to come do an episode of Something's Burning?
joe rogan
Fuck yes.
Fuck yes.
You tell me about the Eddie Bravo one.
Because Eddie Bravo is one of the funniest guys that's ever lived.
bert kreischer
Eddie Bravo comes in and Sam doesn't drink.
And I go, you want a drink, Eddie?
And he's like...
That's a good Eddie impression, right?
And so I make him Tito's and soda, and me and him start going drink for drink, Tito's and soda, and he is on a fucking burner.
He is telling bits.
He is killing top to bottom.
At one point, I go, Eddie, you stand in front of the Lord, and you got one thing to tell him you do great.
What is it?
And he goes, I choke out motherfuckers with my legs.
He told this story.
He told a story about fucking a girl with a stinky pussy and stinky feet.
joe rogan
It's one of the funniest stories.
tom segura
He told me that in Australia.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
How funny is that story?
tom segura
Mixed in colors?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
He said it was blue and yellow and mixed green.
And he goes, I had to get her vitamins.
bert kreischer
I had to get her vitamins.
I was in love with this girl.
joe rogan
He brought out a book.
He's showing her about nutrition.
What's going on with your vagina?
bert kreischer
He is so fucking funny.
We did.
And then, by the way, I had to do an integration for Solo Stoves.
So we had to do the episode.
And then at the end, to pay for the thing, we all go outside and do an integration.
We cook outside.
And Eddie Bravo's going off about mosquitoes.
I don't remember having itching sauce by when I was a kid.
Then we go into my house.
We're still drinking.
Isla comes down.
She goes, and I go, hey, Isla, you've always wanted to do jujitsu.
And Eddie's like, and you know, Eddie's like, you'll never get raped.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
He's awful.
And then he sets her up with private lessons.
Eddie is the, I'm telling you man, he's the fucking greatest.
ari shaffir
He let me train, when I was at my port, he let me train free for like two years.
bert kreischer
Dude, he, man, that guy, he murdered the heart.
Him, something's murdering him.
I gotta say.
Oh him, Mark Norman, that one's blowing up.
Jeffrey's on this week.
He's on right now.
I have to say...
unidentified
Jeffrey?
bert kreischer
Tim Jeffries is fucking...
So many great episodes, but I'll tell you the one I'm looking forward to.
Tim Dillon and Whitney Cummings.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's gonna be great.
bert kreischer
You know how I almost pass out when I laugh?
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Four times.
Tim Dillon, it started very casually.
What are you making today, Bert?
And I go, well, and Whitney, you know, Tim, if you were making meals, what would you make us?
And he looks at it and he goes, Percocet pudding, Whitney.
That's his first joke, because it's got Percocets in it, which you like, and it's pudding.
He killed the hardest.
joe rogan
He's the best ranter.
With him, the best ranter.
He did a rant on this podcast about the decline of the American empire.
unidentified
I saw it.
ari shaffir
I just let him go.
joe rogan
You've got to let him go.
It's one of the best rants I've ever heard.
The best rant I've ever heard in my life.
bert kreischer
I listened to it with Isla.
It's incredible.
We're in the car.
I'm drinking her football game.
We're listening to it.
And I look over, she's smiling, and she's nodding, and she goes, who is this guy?
I said, you've met him.
She goes, I know this guy?
I go, yeah, he's coming to the house next week.
She goes, can I meet him again?
I said, yeah.
So I'm doing the podcast with Tim, and Isla comes down.
She's like, I go, hey, Tim, give Isla some life advice.
And Tim just goes on a fucking...
She's 16. He's so fucking quick.
unidentified
Dude...
bert kreischer
All those guys, that generation, the Mark Norman, Tim Dillon.
joe rogan
Shane Gillis.
bert kreischer
Have you seen the new Gillian Key special?
tom segura
I haven't.
bert kreischer
I'm sitting at Dane Cook's special with Leanne.
tom segura
It's so funny.
It is so funny.
bert kreischer
I bought it on the thing.
I'm sitting with Leanne and we're watching his special before Dane's special starts.
Crying laughing and the people around me are looking over my shoulder Crying fucking laughing.
He is Shane Gillis is fucking special man.
joe rogan
He's very very good.
ari shaffir
He looks special.
tom segura
He does look special a little bit.
joe rogan
He talks about that.
I know which is Have you seen the new bit he does about George Washington Museum?
Oh my god, it's a good bit It's one of those bits where after it's over.
I'm like, thank you.
ari shaffir
He did it at the Ryman We did a this not happening at the Ryman it crushed The best was on Fully Loaded.
bert kreischer
We took Georgia with them.
My oldest was PA, her and her friends.
And they're all pretty woke, right?
Like, they're kids.
You know, they do their pronouns when they...
You know, whatever.
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Well, they're kids, Joe.
It's LA. And so...
But they've never really seen live comedy.
So...
Shane Gillis goes on stage, and immediately I'm like, when he starts talking about Trump, I'm waiting for George to just cringe.
And I watch George and her friend, and he goes into the George Washington thing, and the black guy comes out, and he goes, get back there!
And George and her friend are like, and they're laughing.
And I go, what are you doing?
She goes...
It's just...
The way he says it, Dad, it's so funny.
And I know you're not supposed to laugh at this.
I go, baby, it's okay.
ari shaffir
It's good to get a long laugh.
bert kreischer
By the end, they were obsessed with Shane.
And every time Shane would go on, Shane, Attell, Big J. Big J is doing fucking...
That pronoun joke about fucking Demi Lovato.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
bert kreischer
And they're crying, laughing.
And then the whole time, they just hung out with these guys.
Last night, Shane Gillis comes up to George and her friend.
He goes, you guys sneaking beers?
And they're like, no.
He goes, don't fucking lie to me.
I'm not your dad.
She goes, no.
And this is how much they like them.
And they go, we're sneaking a couple beers.
He goes, I won't say anything.
Sit down right next to me.
Your daughter's drunk.
Dude, watching kids, like, young kids that are supposed to be woke, watch great comedy.
ari shaffir
Because they love the release.
They don't get it.
They love the release of laughing at something wrong.
And they never get it.
And they're like, oh, we've been missing this part.
joe rogan
Well, you know why?
It's because there's not a lot of it out there.
They're not exposed to it enough.
You know, comedy, like, the idea that that is, like...
That it's bad to laugh at things that are obviously hilarious.
It's like that this person has bad intentions when they're saying these things.
That's not true.
It's funny.
tom segura
It's a relief.
Well, it's also like an unspoken agreement.
joe rogan
Yeah, we know it's bullshit.
ari shaffir
We've come here to hear some wrong things.
We know it's fake.
joe rogan
It's just talking shit.
I mean, that's one of the things that infuriated me so much about people getting mad at Louie's leak set when that was all going down, where they were saying, you know...
tom segura
It's a workout set.
joe rogan
Not always in a workout set, it's exactly what he's always done.
tom segura
That was the part that was great when they were like, this guy's jumped.
unidentified
He's gone MAGA. And you were a fan before?
joe rogan
He hasn't changed his philosophy in life at all.
It's just funny.
He just says the things you're not supposed to say that are hilarious.
tom segura
He's still so fucking funny.
joe rogan
Oh, we saw him here at the Creek in the Cave.
It was fucking great.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was fucking great.
And he's free now.
ari shaffir
People forget that a fucking master...
It's like...
We're living in the presence of fucking some of the greatest people of all time in our profession.
joe rogan
Yes, and the crop coming up now is fucking amazing.
There's so many good comics coming up now.
There's so many good comics.
When David Lucas and Tony Hinchcliffe go after each other on Kill Tony, I was a guest on Kill Tony the other day.
I couldn't breathe.
I was laughing so hard.
I was just holding my side, wheezing.
tom segura
He's funny as shit.
joe rogan
Lucas is a bad motherfucker.
And he's so good at talking shit to Tony, and Tony's so good off the cuff.
Tony's the best host of that kind of a show that's ever existed.
He's so good.
And he's been doing it so long now.
He's so polished and so sharp.
Oh my god.
This is such a good time for comedy, man.
That's why I'm so pumped to open up my club.
ari shaffir
Oh, I'm so excited.
You got a date?
joe rogan
Well, we're in the middle of it right now.
Carrie Mitchell just sent me a photo of the new bar in the middle of the construction.
It looks fucking great.
tom segura
Don't show it to me.
bert kreischer
Don't show it to me.
My dick will get hard.
A bar?
tom segura
The place looks amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it looks great.
tom segura
You seen it, Bert?
ari shaffir
I didn't come out for the first week.
joe rogan
That's the bar.
Oh, you're definitely coming out for the opening week, brother.
That's Carrie at the bar.
Oh, it's being built right now.
That's Missy's.
bert kreischer
Do opening week, like, when do you know?
joe rogan
We don't know, but it'll probably be somewhere around January.
ari shaffir
Give us a lot of notice.
Do it in late January.
bert kreischer
I'm going to be in Europe all January.
joe rogan
Okay.
I'll wait.
I'll wait for you.
When are you doing Europe?
Well, we're going to have some soft openings anyway.
We're going to have some...
ari shaffir
I think I'm going to April, too.
Maybe we'll fucking meet up somewhere.
Where are you guys going?
joe rogan
In April?
bert kreischer
European tours.
unidentified
You doing a tour?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
The only thing I'm doing is England.
I'm going over to London.
unidentified
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
At the middle of the month.
bert kreischer
I took Norman and almost killed that motherfucker.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
That was his first trip out there.
He goes, how do I hang with Bert?
I'm like, throw some drinks into like a planter or something.
tom segura
Yeah, he said that thing about you.
He was like, we get up, we drink, and the next morning I'm like, oh, I feel like I'm shitting blood.
And then Bert's like, you want to go for a run?
unidentified
I'm like, no.
joe rogan
I want to fucking...
Well, I think that's what keeps you healthy, that keeps you balanced, is that you do exercise.
Like, you put two stressors on your body.
You put the alcohol stressor and then you jack up your metabolism and all your fucking hormones and everything for running and exercise.
bert kreischer
It's the part that I miss in...
It's weird because I don't have the punitive voice in my head where I wake up and I go, all right, you did this to yourself.
Let's fucking go.
Let's get up.
Like this morning, my alarm went off at 6.30 and I was like, eh, I'll just keep sleeping.
I feel good.
I'll do a podcast.
I'll work out tonight.
But if I drank last night, I'd be up at 6.30 in the gym.
tom segura
It would motivate you to go.
bert kreischer
It motivates me to do a fucking workout.
joe rogan
That's great, man.
That's a great balance.
I wish you didn't drink as much.
That's what I was trying to tell you last night.
You just smoked more weed.
Weed doesn't have the effect on your body.
That's what I miss the most during Sober October's weed.
I don't necessarily miss the booze.
My face looks better.
I don't have the deep bags under my eyes when I don't drink.
I know it's doing something bad to me.
ari shaffir
My brother sent me a picture of Bert and was like, oh look, his skin looks better already.
And then I was laughing at it, but I was actually being serious.
bert kreischer
My skin looks better and I deflate.
I was telling this to Ari, the number one thing that I noticed, I deflate, my face deflates in a second.
I have had times where I've been partying so hard that my phone won't recognize my face because I just bloated.
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
His phone is like, who the fuck is this?
bert kreischer
Who's this Chinese guy?
joe rogan
You need a phone with a fingerprint thing.
You need to get an Android.
tom segura
You know the thing that I feel like I try to tackle the most, that I struggle with the most, is sleep.
ari shaffir
What do you mean?
tom segura
Just that, like, overall, if you go, like...
I like working out.
So if I get into a habit of working out, it's not...
I mean, the workouts can be challenging, but it's not like, man, I don't like doing this.
So you tackle that.
And then eating, that could be a challenge.
But again, if you start...
ari shaffir
Eating salads, you're fine.
tom segura
Well, just start eating a healthy habit.
You just build the habit.
The thing that is, I think, the hardest for me to master, and I try to think about it more, is just getting good sleep.
joe rogan
Have you ever tried one of those eight sleep mattresses that cool you off?
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
I have one, and I haven't set it up yet, but every one that uses it says it's a fucking game changer.
ari shaffir
Can I give you a tip?
tom segura
I kind of think about it more, too.
I realized that I used to think that sleep happens to you.
So you go, like, tonight was good.
I don't know, man.
You know what I mean?
It just happens.
And sort of start thinking in terms of, like, you know, I am in charge of at least attempting to make this a good night of sleep.
ari shaffir
Can I give you a tip?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Don't look at your phone for an hour and a half before you go to sleep.
tom segura
That's a good one.
ari shaffir
That shit that's in there does something to your eyes.
joe rogan
I look at my phone right before I go to sleep.
I sleep like a brick.
ari shaffir
You're a monkey.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I listen to podcasts while I sleep.
joe rogan
You do?
bert kreischer
And then have dreams that I'm fucking in history.
joe rogan
My wife has a hard time sleeping.
She drives her crazy and I could fall asleep on the dirt.
tom segura
Yeah, I can.
joe rogan
I could just lay down on dirt ground.
ari shaffir
Have you guys started the withdrawal dreams yet?
I had one last night.
joe rogan
Oh, my withdrawal dreams are horrific, like being chased by wolves and shit.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're all violent.
All my withdrawal dreams from marijuana.
unidentified
I have not had any withdrawal.
ari shaffir
That's so crazy.
I think it probably reveals to me who you are.
unidentified
Wait, what the fuck?
joe rogan
They're so violent.
ari shaffir
That's so crazy.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
All violence.
My dreams are all violent.
ari shaffir
That's so nuts.
Last night, my dream was that Aaron Judge came in for a pinch hit home run in the last game.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
That was your dream?
joe rogan
I'm being chased by wolves and I'm trying to figure out if I should climb a tree.
bert kreischer
I fought a dude because he was pissed off that I fucked up his boat.
joe rogan
They're all violent.
But I've been involved in violence for so long.
tom segura
Yeah, you witness violence a lot.
joe rogan
I am so used to people getting injured.
I've told this story before, but one time my wife, we had a hatchback, and she was taking something out of the back of the trunk, and she stood up, and she didn't know that the corner of the hatchback was right there, and she cut her head, and she's bleeding, like pouring blood down her face.
And I look at her, and I'm like, it's nothing.
It's like a tiny little cut.
Like, it didn't bother me at all.
I was like, that's nothing.
Put some crazy glue on it or we can go to the doctor.
She's like, fucking crazy glue?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I'm like thinking about what I would do.
Like, if I look at that cut, I would go, ah, we got crazy glue.
I'll put a little crazy glue in there and squeeze it together and put a little band-aid on it.
But, like, I'm so used to seeing people injured.
ari shaffir
She's got to know that's your love language.
joe rogan
I've seen a thousand people knocked unconscious.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, real close.
In front.
tom segura
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like from three feet away.
I'm so accustomed to it.
bert kreischer
I know you'll never write a self-help book, but I want to find the motivators that cause greatness.
I liked Cam Haynes' book because he talked about his father and his relationship with his father, his father being a runner, and how that...
And ultimately how that drives him to run because it's something he's trying to...
I can connect with broken parts of men where I can find that brokenness in me and go, oh shit.
Because I was like, oh maybe that's why I fucking run.
My dad was a runner.
Oh shit.
And then you start going, oh this is normal.
This is part of...
You know, I'd be curious to know, because you're a pretty weird dude with, like, motivation.
You know, like, what motivates you to work out is like, well, I think about people raping my family.
I would love to get to the base.
joe rogan
I don't think about people raping my family.
What the fuck is wrong?
bert kreischer
Yeah, you do.
joe rogan
No, I don't.
tom segura
No, but you have said, like, this is birding.
He's birdifying it.
You said, like, I think about people trying to kill me.
You said that before.
joe rogan
Well, I definitely do if I'm getting tired.
So if I'm in the middle of a workout and I'm tired, I say, imagine if I had saved a loved one's life right now.
How would I respond?
I'd just get angry.
bert kreischer
And I'm sure there's rape in there.
That's what I meant.
joe rogan
Don't think about that.
ari shaffir
Bert puts himself in the place of the attacker.
And he goes, well, if I was there, I may as well get some rape soon.
bert kreischer
I'm killing you.
joe rogan
I might as well rape you, too.
I mean, it's not like an extra charge.
I'm going to jail forever.
unidentified
Whenever you see a serial killer who doesn't rape, you're like, what the fuck are you doing, dude?
bert kreischer
Maximize your time.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just, I don't know.
tom segura
It's so crazy if you're gonna kill not to rape.
I agree.
ari shaffir
Save one for after death.
tom segura
That was the Bundy way.
ari shaffir
It is nicer.
tom segura
Most people would rape and then kill.
Bundy was like, I'm gonna kill you first.
ari shaffir
Changing the game.
joe rogan
Have you guys seen the Dahmer thing on Netflix?
I've heard it's fucking great.
tom segura
It's really, really well done.
There's a little bit of, you know, they obviously dramatize it to be compelling television.
ari shaffir
How can you dramatize that story?
tom segura
They dramatize the story in terms of there are things that are not factually accurate, but there's things that are factually accurate, too.
But that kid is fucking...
Evan Peters, I think, plays him.
He's phenomenal.
Yeah, and there's...
I mean, it's dark.
It's fucking...
It's really well done.
ari shaffir
I did a commercial with the last guy.
You know, who's the fucking Arrow guy from Marvel?
bert kreischer
Oh, Hawkeye.
joe rogan
Hawkeye.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Hawkeye.
bert kreischer
Shotgun McGee.
joe rogan
The guy who plays him?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
ari shaffir
Jeremy Renner.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
My first commercial, he was doing one and he was like broke and he was getting sagged like, we'll give you some money to pay your rent kind of thing.
And he goes, yeah, I got a movie that hasn't come out yet, but we'll see.
And it was this independent Jeffrey Dahmer movie.
tom segura
Oh, right, because he played Dahmer, too.
ari shaffir
And then just launched him after that.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
He was one of those Jason Bourne guys in one of the movies.
tom segura
He was, but that one didn't do as great.
joe rogan
But it was good.
tom segura
Compared to the other ones?
joe rogan
No?
tom segura
No.
ari shaffir
It's not to take over a franchise.
bert kreischer
I liked him in the town.
He was a badass with Ben Fleck.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's right.
He was in the town too.
He's fucking great.
ari shaffir
There he is.
joe rogan
That guy's a bad motherfucker.
ari shaffir
How different is that look to Dahmer to the new look to Dahmer?
bert kreischer
The new look to Domino, it really looks like Dahmer.
joe rogan
This guy.
tom segura
That's pretty close.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy's pretty close.
tom segura
He does the Wisconsin accent.
joe rogan
I gotta say, I fucking hate Hawkeye, though.
That stupid Marvel character.
All he has is a bow and arrow.
It's so dumb.
Everybody else is the Hulk, and they fucking can do crazy shit, and Doctor Strange can summon other universes, and this dude's just shooting shitty arrows.
ari shaffir
I have arrows!
unidentified
At aliens.
joe rogan
There's aliens flying around in spaceships and he's shooting arrows at them.
I'm like, this is so dumb.
And he never runs out of arrows.
tom segura
I can't get into any of those movies.
joe rogan
Infuriates me.
bert kreischer
Oh, are you kidding me?
ari shaffir
It's all so paced by numbers.
Anybody new comes in, they have a beef, like...
My crew, not your crew!
tom segura
I mean, I've gone to see them, and you just go...
The thing is that there's...
You know the blueprint of the film.
ari shaffir
You know the blueprint.
tom segura
So I like more surprise, because, like, you know, you see the conflict coming, and then you go, this is going to have him down for a little bit.
Then the bad guy's going to, you know, look like he's going to win this thing, and then he will beat him.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Or even if the back guy wins, then they go, uh, we went back in time.
unidentified
And what's wild is that they do billions at the box office every time.
ari shaffir
I love those movies.
bert kreischer
I love them, too.
joe rogan
I love them.
They're fun.
Well, I grew up reading comic books.
tom segura
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But I like a dark one.
I like when they show the real conflict of something.
joe rogan
I did love The Watchmen.
ari shaffir
Watchmen or Dark Knight.
tom segura
The Dark Knight stuff.
ari shaffir
The Dark Knight stuff was unbelievable.
tom segura
With Chris Nolan stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was great.
tom segura
Those were a maze.
joe rogan
Those were great.
ari shaffir
A conflicted superhero.
joe rogan
The problem with Batman is he's just a rich guy.
Why has he got all that stuff?
Where does he get all these powers from?
ari shaffir
He's got none.
He's at the peak of what you can do if you train.
joe rogan
But it's not real.
ari shaffir
He's Bert if he stopped drinking.
bert kreischer
I'm Batman.
tom segura
You're Batman.
joe rogan
You're Batman.
bert kreischer
Maybe I'll lean in to just do like November weed.
joe rogan
Just weed?
bert kreischer
Just weed in November.
I'd love to be a weed guy, but it's just not my thing.
joe rogan
Well, you just like to get crazy and take your shirt off.
When you took your shirt off last night on stage and the place went nuts, there was a lady in the front row that got up and started doing this.
ari shaffir
I didn't have to say his name.
I was like, hey, this is my friend.
And then you just walked.
I was like, yeah, I don't want to introduce you.
joe rogan
They went crazy.
And then you took the shirt off and took it to another level.
That was great fun last night.
bert kreischer
That was a lot of fun.
joe rogan
That was great fun last night.
That was so much fun.
bert kreischer
It's really important to do, I've found since the last time I did a spot there, it's really important to do short sets.
To stay loose in what your talent is, but it does not translate to theaters or arenas.
What do you mean?
So much more conversational, so much more fun, so much more interactive, and then you go to an arena, and you're like, if you talk to one person in the front row, then there's fucking 12,000 other people going, I don't know what that guy looks like.
joe rogan
No, it's definitely different.
bert kreischer
It's definitely different.
joe rogan
There's different timing.
ari shaffir
I love a club.
bert kreischer
When I started doing theaters, Tom texted me and was like, he called me and he was like, just letting you know, it's a different pacing, it's a little bit of a different muscle.
And I was like, no, no, I got this.
And I remember my first theater gig, I was done in 35 minutes.
ari shaffir
Wow.
bert kreischer
And I was like, whoa, he's right.
And I was like, I don't have that much material.
Like, I have a lot of fucking around with an audience.
And, hey, ask him a question I already have the answer to.
Then, you know, that's the energy.
When you do theater, you, like, you got to fucking...
It's an act.
joe rogan
Especially arenas.
unidentified
I told Tony.
tom segura
You got to do the bits.
Like, you got to do the written, the best stuff.
joe rogan
But you also, on the other side, you hold laughs longer.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's important to do that because the people are still thinking about what you just said.
ari shaffir
I told Tony he was doing his first theater, I think with Jeff Ross or something, and I was like, slow down.
And he goes, okay.
And then I was like, hey, Tony, slow down.
And then he was like, okay.
And then he was afterwards like, that was really good advice.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different thing.
But I think it's like cross-training.
I think if you just do those, it's not good.
Because it's very difficult to come up with new material.
You're not coming up with shit when you're doing 16,000 people.
ari shaffir
No, exactly.
joe rogan
And you're in the round.
You ain't coming up with any new ideas.
ari shaffir
Geraldo talked about it.
He said it's almost a different sport.
Especially in town, like in town club comedy where you're like not the show.
And you're on top of them.
joe rogan
Like if you're at the cellar, the audience is literally where you guys are.
They're on top of you.
tom segura
You also feel like you could take a little bit of a risk in those big ass arenas, like a new line or something, and it doesn't land.
And you immediately are like, I'm going right back to what I know.
joe rogan
Right back to the real shit.
I don't know how anybody who just does arenas ever comes up with new material.
bert kreischer
You can write in those.
I always do my new hours out on the road.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I'm sure, but it's not as easy.
ari shaffir
If you try an on-the-edge joke at the stand or somewhere where they don't know you, and then they don't go for it, you're just not going to get them back.
They're like, we've lost faith in you.
I don't know who you are, and I don't like this.
bert kreischer
That's very true.
That happened to me in the OR the other night.
OR can be fucking so deaf.
OR can be a fucking tricky whore who passes out in the middle of fucking.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
A tricky whore that passes out in the middle of fucking you.
joe rogan
You should call the doctor.
She's probably having a fentanyl overdose.
tom segura
There's the OR sets that have gone down.
bert kreischer
I'm going to work on a bit here.
And then you start and you're like...
Every word that comes out of your mouth feels so scripted.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And you're like, I'm trying to work, goddammit.
Why won't you guys just go with me for a second?
tom segura
You start feeling like a phony.
bert kreischer
And then you bail on it.
You're like, fuck that.
ari shaffir
If you come off the road, like when I opened for you and I'd be presentational and stuff, and you come back to, or just headlining, you come back to the store and it's just like, oh, I'm presenting instead of talking to them.
tom segura
And you're following somebody who just was like...
ari shaffir
Yeah, you follow Tony Woods or something like that, who's so natural.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Tony's the most natural.
The most.
And you're like, you've negated my game.
joe rogan
Completely.
Tony kills in the green room.
Tony was in the green room, and there was this open miker that kept chiming in.
He goes, motherfucker, do you hear me talking?
It was hilarious.
Because it was just a young guy who was just a little too eager and wanted to chime in, too.
And Tony's in the middle, he's rants.
And we're all just sitting there letting Tony rant.
And this guy's chiming in.
He's like, motherfucker, do you hear me talking?
unidentified
It was hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he'll call you on it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
The guy was cock blocking.
The guy was jumping in the middle of his brilliant rant.
ari shaffir
I love a club.
Of all the things.
I love them all.
joe rogan
You haven't done an arena, Ari.
ari shaffir
I've not done an arena.
joe rogan
I want to bring you with me to one of these fucking MGM grand shows.
ari shaffir
These crazy ones.
If you bring me to one, you've got to bring me to two because I'm going to adjust.
I'm going to figure something out after I do it.
joe rogan
One and done.
bert kreischer
And you get paid for Rolex.
unidentified
And a watch.
joe rogan
And a watch.
Yeah, you're wearing a watch.
ari shaffir
I'm going to get you a suit.
joe rogan
I'm going to get you a suit.
Would you wear a suit?
ari shaffir
I have eight suits.
It's the best part of my game.
I get them hand-tailored in Hong Kong, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they look like shit.
I've seen those.
unidentified
Fuck you!
ari shaffir
My suit game is the best in comedy.
joe rogan
David August.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
It's the best in comedy!
joe rogan
That's not true.
ari shaffir
It is by far true.
joe rogan
It's not true.
ari shaffir
Who has a better suit game than me?
tom segura
I have pretty nice suits.
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Who has more suits than you?
ari shaffir
Who has cooler, more interesting, better...
No, dude.
joe rogan
100%.
That's terrible.
You look like a Canadian that just fucking came over on a fishing boat.
ari shaffir
Look at that shit, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's like a Doug Stanhope.
ari shaffir
No, that's not a Doug Stanhope bit.
joe rogan
That actually looks pretty good.
ari shaffir
That looks great.
tom segura
It's kind of cool.
bert kreischer
I do not own one suit.
joe rogan
Have you thought about bringing This Is Not Happening back to some sort of a streaming platform or something?
ari shaffir
I think about it all the time.
I need your and Tom's help.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
ari shaffir
What about me?
joe rogan
Yeah, what about Bird?
You just left him out.
That's not a bad suit.
ari shaffir
I'll give it to you.
I'll give it to you.
tom segura
That's a nice suit.
That is a cool suit.
joe rogan
That's a pretty good suit.
ari shaffir
Thank you.
tom segura
My birthday suit.
joe rogan
When we did the MGM, when Brian Simpson, Tony, Hans Kim, and I did the MGM, we all got tailored suits from David August.
tom segura
That's rad.
joe rogan
Fucking incredible.
tom segura
I mean, there's just...
Like a bespoke suit?
joe rogan
Jamie, you got that photo of all of us together?
ari shaffir
Yeah, when it's made for you.
When they tailor.
joe rogan
Well, I have to wear suits that are made for me.
And even then, it's tough to fit.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I'm the same way my body is.
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
bert kreischer
I don't have a suit.
joe rogan
You don't have a suit?
bert kreischer
I don't own one suit.
Look at this.
tom segura
Yeah, you guys look clean, dude.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
Pocket squares.
Look at Jamie with the sunglasses.
bert kreischer
Those look nice.
tom segura
You guys look great.
joe rogan
Jamie's right out of Pulp Fiction.
ari shaffir
This looks like Pulp Fiction.
bert kreischer
Maybe I'll get a suit at the end of Sober October.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
tom segura
There you go.
bert kreischer
Get my body to the point.
With your new measurements.
And then never be able to wear it.
ari shaffir
You'll be able to fit into it for one week.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I remember the last Sober October.
joe rogan
But look at Tom.
Remember when you guys first did the weight loss challenge?
Look at Tom now.
ari shaffir
He's 208. 208?
That's new.
joe rogan
He works out every fucking day.
ari shaffir
That's nuts.
You could be under 200 pounds.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Tom could be 195 and fucking shredded.
tom segura
He looks good.
I'm trying.
joe rogan
Well, it's amazing, the consistency in your workouts.
tom segura
I mean, the real consistency, too, is on the road.
I'm on the road so much.
We work out almost every day.
ari shaffir
You take a guy with you?
tom segura
Yeah, you do.
bert kreischer
His trainer is also an amazing photographer.
tom segura
He is.
bert kreischer
Two birds with one stone.
joe rogan
That's nice.
tom segura
Yeah, so he's a real photographer and a certified, and he's fucking jacked.
So he's like, it's great because you're around somebody who's disciplined.
You know what I mean?
So every day it's like, you know, I look at what he eats, so I'm like, I'll eat that.
What are we doing today?
What workouts are we doing?
I just do what he does in the workouts.
So you're just following someone's example, and then it becomes like a habit.
joe rogan
That's definitely easier to farm it off to someone.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
I'm bringing my trainer on the road with me in October.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at this motherfucker going.
ari shaffir
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
Look how thin you are, dude.
bert kreischer
Is that Tom?
tom segura
No, that's Sean.
joe rogan
That's Sean.
bert kreischer
I was like, Jesus Christ, Tom.
tom segura
No, that's Sean.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
That's cool that you guys cut your hair, like, and look like each other.
tom segura
People always, they're like, are you guys brothers?
And I'm always like, I'm sorry, dude.
ari shaffir
And that's, who's that one?
joe rogan
That's his trainer.
ari shaffir
That's Sean.
Yeah, you really do have the same haircut.
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
Pretty fucking similar.
But that is, that is a huge thing that you could do to bring someone on the road with you and train with them.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And make sure that you get shit done.
But look how thin you are, dude.
You're so much smaller.
tom segura
It's kind of amazing.
joe rogan
How good do you feel?
tom segura
I feel great, man.
I feel great.
I mean, you know, you start moving, you know, better.
unidentified
Feel lighter.
tom segura
Lighter, yeah.
ari shaffir
Feel easier.
joe rogan
Joints feel better.
Everything feels better.
How's your arm doing?
tom segura
It's much better, man.
I mean, I'm going for another follow-up for the nerve stuff in like a couple weeks, but it's...
joe rogan
Do you like that?
Put your hand out there.
And you can clutch and everything?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
All good?
tom segura
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Shout out to your doctor.
tom segura
Yeah, Dr. Soruya did this one.
Your grip strength is definitely still weaker than the right hand.
And there is weight where your wrist will eventually collapse.
joe rogan
Do you do wrist curls?
ari shaffir
Your weight.
tom segura
The weight will, so like if I'm holding dumbbells, I can hold them, but at a certain weight, let's say they're like 60 pound dumbbells or something, I'll be fine here, and you'll see this one just will start to go like that.
joe rogan
Do you do wrist curls?
tom segura
No, I should.
ari shaffir
Is it still recuperating?
tom segura
Oh yeah, it's a three year recovery, the nerves.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You know what I love, man, is rollers, where you get a roller with a cord and the weights at the bottom and you do this shit.
tom segura
Oh yeah.
ari shaffir
And you lost that basketball game before?
You were already losing?
tom segura
No.
Well, we'd lost the game.
Then we did our dunk classes.
bert kreischer
Tate Fletcher gave me a great speech about getting hurt.
Because we all went on this crazy hike.
And he was like, you know how I talk out my ass.
And Tate just is not having it.
And he was like, you're a decommissioned athlete.
He's like, you think your body is what it was when you were a kid, and it's not, and that's how you get fucking hurt.
That's how you get hurt.
You think you can do everything you can do when you're a kid because you can do it when you're a kid?
You can't do it.
That's how you get hurt.
And I was like, that was the first time I was like, oh, that's what happened when we played basketball.
tom segura
That's 100% what happened.
And we also did something that...
I mean, it's exactly what he's saying, but especially when you get into jumping.
If you don't jump all the time, then you go, I'm going to jump my ass off today.
ari shaffir
You have explosive movement, but you don't have explosive strength.
So it's like, in between time.
Like a 75-year-old would never think to jump.
tom segura
Of course.
joe rogan
All the stabilizer muscles.
tom segura
Yeah.
You've got to work it.
We played basketball last week, though.
Played two-on-two and played full game.
joe rogan
What are you going to drop down to?
Do you have a goal?
tom segura
No, because, you know, I... I remember being real fat as a freshman in college and losing weight and thinking that a number was the goal.
At first, I was like, I want to weigh 225 because I saw NFL linebackers.
I was like, that's a good weight.
And then I got down to 225. I'm like, I don't look like them.
So I just kept losing weight.
And even now, I'm 208, 209. I feel like if I go, oh, it's 200...
I'd rather just focus on what I feel like and look like and go, like, that's the weight that I'd rather be at than hunt the number.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
tom segura
I think I'll...
joe rogan
Because also, like, you're gaining muscle.
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
So your weight is getting higher, but your body fat's getting lower.
tom segura
Yeah.
So I don't know what the final number will be.
I think it's definitely...
I have a build that I should be, like, between 190 and 200, I think.
You know?
That's what I think I should be.
joe rogan
And so that's, like...
tom segura
Kind of like the range, yeah.
joe rogan
But as you're putting on muscle, I mean, maybe you'll be heavier.
tom segura
Maybe I'll be heavier, yeah.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I put on muscle pretty quickly.
tom segura
What do you weigh now?
joe rogan
80,000 pounds.
ari shaffir
Is it 80,000, Bert?
unidentified
Is it over or less than 80,000?
tom segura
That's so funny.
ari shaffir
Would you say it's over or I think under now because of a few days?
bert kreischer
I'd do it in stone.
tom segura
But wait, be honest.
What were you up to a couple months ago?
Because you were...
bert kreischer
265. 265. 265. I told that to...
Who did I tell that to?
joe rogan
That's Francis Ngannou's weight.
tom segura
They look the same.
That's how I thought I would look at 225. I was like, I'll look like that.
bert kreischer
I was talking to a man.
When you talk to men, it's different than...
You're a man, but us...
So if you say that, you hold people to a standard.
Like an athlete, if you've competed at a high level, you see things at a high level.
Like Eddie, it's hard to bullshit with Eddie about false claims about exercise and stuff.
So I said to someone who goes, how much were you at your harvest?
I said, 265. He goes, 270?
I went, no, 265. He goes, no, no, no, no.
Let's be very clear.
There were days you were 270. You just didn't get on the scale.
And I went, wow.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
tom segura
Probably 270. Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
That's the way a man works, you know?
unidentified
I go, 265. That's the day I stepped on the scale thinking I was really 250. I was 211 when I got back from Italy.
tom segura
That's big for you.
joe rogan
Fat as fuck, dude.
I had a roll.
I was feeling a roll right here.
bert kreischer
Can I please leave that shirtless picture of you?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
I was so fucking...
I sent it to my wife.
I go squad goals.
I did a photo shoot and I did one picture of me naked swinging a baseball bat and just randomly I saw like a delt and a bicep and then I spent the rest of the photo shoot trying to flex and you can't see anything.
I'm fucking sore as fuck the next day.
I think I pulled my kidney.
joe rogan
If we can get you off the booze for a long period of time and get you working out, I think you would be a fucking freak athlete.
I really do.
ari shaffir
Booze alone would do it.
You already work out.
tom segura
What do you weigh now?
bert kreischer
I really don't know.
joe rogan
I think probably 247. When I saw you play tennis against Tom, I'm like, this motherfucker is an athlete.
ari shaffir
He is an understated athlete.
tom segura
His golf swing is incredible.
ari shaffir
Swimming.
tom segura
Baseball.
joe rogan
Hand-eye coordination.
tom segura
Hand-eye coordination.
joe rogan
He can play pool, too.
bert kreischer
I know.
You guys were doing Two Bears, and I heard you guys talk about archery.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
One of my favorite moments ever.
We were doing...
tom segura
I remember this.
bert kreischer
We were doing Go Big Show.
tom segura
And I would have bet, by the way.
I knew already.
I would have bet fucking 10 grand that you had done that.
bert kreischer
We had a trick archer up there who was doing trick archery shots.
I've always been into archery, but whatever.
And I always know I'm pretty good at archery.
And so I go, hey, man, can I see your bow and arrow?
I want to take a shot.
And he was like...
Okay, and Snoop is like, no, no, that's not.
He's gonna fucking kill one of us.
And I go, Snoop, I think I can do it.
And I know I can.
And he goes, no, we're like maybe 50 feet from the target.
And I line it up out of nowhere and just bullseye.
And Snoop lost his shit.
And I was like, but I like that energy more than being, I like talking shit and surprising someone.
joe rogan
And being good at something.
bert kreischer
That's party energy.
That's party energy.
It's the guy going, I can do a backflip, you know?
joe rogan
I'm the opposite.
I just get obsessed with things until I just want to get perfected at it.
And it never happens.
You never perfect something, but you get closer and closer and closer.
And you get these moments.
Like playing pool is a great example.
There's moments where you just know exactly where the ball's going.
I love that.
ari shaffir
In the zone.
bert kreischer
I'd be curious if you looked at my form and my archery in that trick shot, if you go, oh, he knows what he's doing.
joe rogan
Well, it's a different kind of archery because what you're doing is traditional archery.
What I do is like compound archery.
My shit is like, I use like a range finder and I have a scale on my sight where I range, like it's 65 yards.
I'll dial it into 65 yards and I'm shooting at 85 yards to an index card.
So at 85 yards, I'm shooting at something that's this big.
ari shaffir
You couldn't do it the way you do it, Bert.
joe rogan
It's a different thing.
bert kreischer
We went out ski shooting.
joe rogan
I don't know how to shoot traditional archery.
I'm terrible at it.
I was with my family.
We were in Hawaii, and they have this archery course.
unidentified
Oh, really?
tom segura
It's that different?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I could do it, but I don't know how to aim.
You're supposed to aim, like, the way I do it is with compound bow.
And I pull it back, and it's all, like, centered to, it's all, the bow is matched to my frame.
So I have a 28 and a half inch draw, because that's how far my arms are when they're fully extended.
And then the peep sight is at, like, exactly, like, 5.7 inches here.
And I'm looking through this thing, and I center the housing with it.
It's like you're balancing all these things out together.
It's very zen.
Because in that moment, you're not thinking about anything else other than the execution of the shot and making sure it releases perfectly.
And it's just, there's something about thinking about something that overcomes jujitsu and archery and pool.
You don't think about anything else other than that thing while you're doing it.
And that is sort of like a moving meditation.
Archery in many ways is like a moving meditation.
Because you're so engrossed in the technique that you don't think about anything else.
No life issues, nothing else.
And even if you never hunt or never do a competition or something, there's something about shooting a target over and over again.
It just clears your mind.
bert kreischer
Now the cool thing about what you do from my perspective, and you and Cam and all those guys, the thing I think is sexy is the fucking...
Seeing it.
Your heart's racing.
Holding your breath.
Keeping your breath.
Tracking it.
I've watched a lot of those Rinella videos on Netflix.
The energy that happens that whole moment.
It's almost like finding a needle in a haystack.
You finally see an elk and then you gotta apply all the shit you do in your range.
You gotta apply it to it when you haven't slept well.
You haven't slept well.
You slept on a rock.
Your fucking nerves are up.
You get one fucking shot.
That's the cool shit.
ari shaffir
You gotta be still.
Your Your heart's got to be still.
joe rogan
There's a lot going on, man.
There's a lot going on.
But it's also...
It's obsessive.
You get obsessed by it.
And I think there's something about obsession that's good for the mind.
Like getting really focused on things.
It keeps your mind active in a very unusual way.
tom segura
Do you have something like that that you like?
joe rogan
Jerking off.
ari shaffir
Maybe stand-up.
I don't know.
bert kreischer
Yeah, stand-up.
ari shaffir
I'm helping Big J do his special now, and that's all I think about.
It's just like making sure everything's run right.
Yeah, shit like that.
bert kreischer
Watching him when fully loaded.
The first time I saw him in an arena.
Big J. You know, Big J is always the guy fucks around, little buzz on stage, fuck around with the audience.
12,000 people, he sits on a stool and destroyed me, Shane, Dave Attell.
We're back there watching him like...
And murdered.
And just didn't move.
Big J. One leg out, one leg up on the stool.
Eagles jersey.
Just fucking destroyed.
joe rogan
He's a fucking pro.
ari shaffir
He's such a pro.
And he had this weird training where he'd always go on after a tell late night at the cellar.
And he'd also like open for like corn and stuff.
So he's doing these like massive venues.
unidentified
He opened for corn?
ari shaffir
On their tour.
On their like some music festival kind of tour.
tom segura
He did one of the hardest things too where we did the oddball tour a few years ago.
He would open that.
And everybody's like, fuck that.
Like, nobody wants to do it.
And he embraced it.
And like, you know, you have people being sad and all this shit.
He would fucking kill it.
ari shaffir
We went out.
We had to introduce a big band at Rockin' the Range in Columbus, I think.
And it was like 20,000 people out there.
And the two of us went out.
Just to say, also, we have a comedy show.
And we went out.
And I'm just like, freeze.
I'm like, what the fuck?
And then somebody yelled out from the crowd something and Jay just rips in, turns 18,000 people against this one guy.
And I'm like, help me, Jay.
joe rogan
Help me, please.
bert kreischer
We had him for Fully Loaded.
He was going to host all the shows.
Just host him because he's so good at it.
And that first night he went out and did it.
Because he missed the first night, we had Dave Williamson host.
Next night we're like, why don't you just do a spot and then we'll switch it up.
And after watching his spot, we're like, oh man, he just needs to do sets.
Fucking 20 minutes of...
Just.
Material.
Like, material.
Yeah.
Fucking brilliant, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you think he just does crowd work, but he disguises everything.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So it's like...
tom segura
He's super funny.
ari shaffir
He is one of the best crowd work guys in the country.
bert kreischer
And it's real crowd work.
ari shaffir
And it's real crowd work.
bert kreischer
It's not bullshit crowd work.
joe rogan
It's so smooth with it, too.
It's not like he has a pre-planned thing that he's going to say to people.
ari shaffir
And someone will attack him, like in the audience at a small club, and he'll be like...
Okay, that's a good way of looking at it.
He just stays in the pocket.
bert kreischer
Big J, Ian Bagg.
Ian Bagg's crowd work is dangerously flawless.
Like, he takes...
People sleep on how fucking talented that guy is.
tom segura
We did South Africa.
And there's like people that, it's a cultural thing, certain tribes or whatever, people would have dyed hair, like dyed, you know?
And one of the people running the festival is like, oh yeah, they're from, you know, whatever, this group, and it's like a religious, cultural thing, dyed orange, and he's like, hmm, okay, huh?
And he gets up there, and he's like, you look like an orangutan, you know?
And we were like, oh!
But his delivery and the way that he says it, the lady was backstage panicking and he was just the guy and everybody, they were all just dying.
joe rogan
I don't know him.
bert kreischer
Are you serious?
tom segura
You don't know Ian Bagg?
joe rogan
No, I don't know him.
bert kreischer
I watched him go on stage and he does so much crowd work, he picked out what car everyone drove in the front row.
You look like a Toyota Tacoma guy.
Let me see a picture of you.
I do.
He did a special for Showtime of crowd work with a few bits.
And you know how sometimes that can be lost in a special?
It delivered so fucking hard.
ari shaffir
You back clowns the audience?
Is that it?
joe rogan
Look at him.
bert kreischer
He is so quick.
ari shaffir
He is so fucking funny.
bert kreischer
He might be the best, actually, and no joke.
ari shaffir
You'd have to nominate him.
You'd have to at least put him in the running for it.
bert kreischer
Who else does great crowd work?
ari shaffir
Ian, Jay.
tom segura
Jay's fantastic.
joe rogan
I need to watch some of Ian's sets.
I'm not really familiar with his material.
ari shaffir
What's your fucking deal?
bert kreischer
You know what?
When you get your club open, have him come do a weekend down there, and you will be...
In a minute, Joe, you're going to be like...
And then at the end of the week, and tell me if I'm wrong, you'll be talking like this, too.
joe rogan
Sam Talent.
unidentified
Dude!
joe rogan
He's a funny motherfucker.
I got to meet him.
He came down to the club when we were doing a little tour of it and showing what the construction is and everything.
Got a chance to hang out with him a little bit.
tom segura
I like him.
joe rogan
Funny dude, man.
unidentified
Cool.
ari shaffir
Super smart.
joe rogan
Very funny guy.
bert kreischer
He wrote one of the best books on Stanhope.
tom segura
I keep hearing that.
joe rogan
Stanhope gave it to me.
He said it's great.
ari shaffir
The funniest thing about that book, it was great, but he had different comics read each chapter for the audiobook, and how little comedians know how to actually read was just exposed.
I read the first chapter.
Fumbling over.
unidentified
I couldn't read out loud at all.
bert kreischer
I'm a bad out loud reader.
My audiobook outsold my book.
tom segura
Hey, getting your fucking text is a real experience.
joe rogan
Oh, your text is so ridiculous.
ari shaffir
He had the drunk excuse before.
joe rogan
I'm like, do you look at those?
Do you look at them before you send them?
bert kreischer
I do not.
joe rogan
Send it.
ari shaffir
And you're like, what?
bert kreischer
I can't see if I don't have my glasses on, so I just send it.
joe rogan
How bad is your vision?
bert kreischer
I have 20 amazing vision from far away, but I can't see shit up close.
joe rogan
You know what stopped my vision loss?
I started taking something called macular support.
Pure encapsulation, macular support.
I mean, my vision's not great.
tom segura
Mine's declining.
joe rogan
It never got worse.
It went to a spot where I can read my phone.
bert kreischer
I can't read my phone.
joe rogan
It's not bad.
I can read the news.
Macular support.
Pure encapsulation.
It's got lutein and a bunch of different things in it.
But I've been taking it regularly for years.
And it makes a difference, man.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
What are you writing down?
joe rogan
It's like my vision got pretty shitty.
But Ari, you got the fucking surgery and then it went bad.
ari shaffir
It didn't go bad.
It's just starting to go back.
tom segura
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That happens.
ari shaffir
Eight years later, seven years later.
joe rogan
Your macular degeneration continues even after you get the surgery.
unidentified
Ah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's a thing now that Andrew Huberman was telling me about where it's like some sort of bacteria, and I'm going to butcher this, they inject it into your eye, and it actually corrects your vision.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
joe rogan
And I'm like, but what if it goes bad?
I was scared of it.
unidentified
There's always like a 1%.
joe rogan
My vision's not bad right now.
It's like, it's okay.
tom segura
There's this small percentage thing that happens in Lasix where somebody's vision will just go orange.
Oh, no.
Yeah, permanently.
joe rogan
Well, this guy that I met, one of my daughter's friend's dads, he had the Lasix, and now he can't drive at night.
ari shaffir
He can't now?
joe rogan
Because he sees halos, all the lights.
ari shaffir
How long ago?
Did it go away?
joe rogan
No, no, he can't drive at night.
ari shaffir
Damn.
joe rogan
He drives at night, and he's like, can't see anything.
He goes, like, all the headlights, have you ever seen what it looks like?
ari shaffir
I had it for a couple weeks.
joe rogan
Halo vision due to Lasix.
It's not good, man.
Yeah, so that's what he sees.
So, like, upper right-hand corner, Jamie?
Upper right-hand corner?
Halo?
That's it.
So that's what he sees.
Like, when he sees a light, everything around that light is obscured by, like, a haze.
Yeah, so he can't drive at night.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
At all.
He's like, I see pretty good in the day.
I can read books, but at nighttime, I'm fucked.
He goes, so I can't drive cars.
tom segura
That's fucked.
ari shaffir
That's fucked.
And they didn't tell him that.
The second I got it, they're like, hey, but just so you know, your nearsighted, that's still going to fade.
Immediately, I couldn't see a book this close.
I had to put it out.
The next day, I was like, hey, dude, you said it would go away slowly.
He goes...
No, maybe right away.
joe rogan
Maybe right away.
I got your money, bitch.
bert kreischer
Oh, that's my dick.
I forgot that it was the last picture I showed.
joe rogan
It's sitting right there where everybody can see it.
bert kreischer
I'll put it up so everyone can see it.
It's Spotify.
You can show my dick.
joe rogan
I think you can now.
I don't know.
We might be in trouble.
This might be the one.
bert kreischer
I think about death a lot.
Do you think when people die, they're like, hey, put my glasses on so I can see everybody.
joe rogan
No.
I think you're thinking about dying.
bert kreischer
I think about dying a lot.
joe rogan
Do you?
ari shaffir
Well, maybe you should be a little healthy.
I think you should look into it.
bert kreischer
Yeah, no.
It's one of the benefits of Sober October is I wake up going, hey man, I'm not dying today.
tom segura
Wait, were you serious that your recovery is better with tequila than no drink?
bert kreischer
Hardcore better.
unidentified
Hardcore better?
bert kreischer
Hardcore better.
tom segura
Like you see the stat?
bert kreischer
I have a 98% recovery on tequila one time.
tom segura
And what is it like?
bert kreischer
70s.
ari shaffir
Let's see what it is in a week or two.
That's pretty good.
joe rogan
But you also, you have to realize we're at day six, so your body's adapting.
tom segura
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
There was a thing you were doing the other night and we were going to give you a pass.
It was such a brutal thing, that thing that you had to do.
bert kreischer
I couldn't take it.
ari shaffir
I wanted you to fail so bad so I could get out of it.
I wanted you to fail so bad.
bert kreischer
I got your text.
I got your text.
ari shaffir
You're allowed.
joe rogan
I said three drinks too.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Give him three drinks.
ari shaffir
Because you give him one drink and he'll be like, that's nothing.
tom segura
He can't have one.
bert kreischer
The conversation in my head is interesting.
Because here's where my brain went.
You said you get three drinks.
And I went, and I said to Leanne, I got three drinks tonight if I want them.
The problem is I'd be chasing them all night.
And then that night what I did is I went out and then I went to dinner with Leanne and I wasn't chasing any drinks.
I had like a Diet Coke and it was nice.
We had dinner.
And then I got in the car and I drove both of us home.
Normally she drives.
unidentified
And then I put on pajamas.
bert kreischer
I got excited for pajamas.
And then I laid in bed and I woke up.
And that's the thing I wish I could get a hold of.
Where I just go, oh, tonight's not a night I'm chasing drinks.
joe rogan
So there's pros and cons, right?
So the pros of drinking all the time is you're the life of the party.
You're the guy.
You're the guy.
You go on stage.
bert kreischer
You get to live life.
You get to see it in other people's eyes.
ari shaffir
But you can do that once in a while.
joe rogan
There's a rant that you did that is on a video somewhere of you talking about how you love drinking.
bert kreischer
I'll never quit.
joe rogan
It's a great rant.
It's so great.
It's a love letter to alcohol.
It's a love letter to that feeling that we all get when you have a couple of cocktails and you see a sunrise.
And it's just like, ah, or a sunset.
You see just, it's something beautiful.
It's like, there's a feeling when you just start to catch a buzz that is such a fucking beautiful feeling.
bert kreischer
I remember during pandemic, I didn't drink.
And then one night, during the pandemic, I didn't drink for like three months.
And then the first three months, I just What the fuck are you talking about?
tom segura
I just know you.
And what happens is if I keep asking questions, you'll be like, all right, there was a few days in the city.
bert kreischer
The last drink I had was on the tour bus going into the city.
tom segura
And then?
bert kreischer
And then I didn't drink.
tom segura
For three months.
bert kreischer
Okay, maybe two, whatever.
unidentified
Maybe four days.
bert kreischer
It was definitely a long time.
At all?
joe rogan
No drinks?
bert kreischer
No booze.
Because I was at home with my kids.
tom segura
He'll be like, I've been drinking in a while.
And I'll be like, how long?
And he'll go, like, weeks.
And I go, no?
He goes, well, Saturday.
ari shaffir
This is my fucking Saturday.
tom segura
Saturday was Liam's birthday.
I'm like, well, then that's the last time you drink.
unidentified
Well, hold on.
bert kreischer
Stop, stop, stop.
I definitely, I went a long stretch at the beginning of the pandemic without drinking.
I think it was three months.
It was definitely before I went on tour for the outdoor thing.
joe rogan
You're going to go to the bathroom, right?
You're not going to piss in the hallway, right?
Because you're sober.
ari shaffir
Because I'm sober.
I'll go all the way to the bathroom.
joe rogan
We still have a jug of his piss.
No, someone threw it out.
tom segura
Oh my god.
joe rogan
We had a giant whiskey bottle filled with Ari's piss.
It was hilarious because he was peeing in the hallway.
We got a camera, the security camera.
He was like, why are you filming me?
I'm like, we're filming everything, bro.
This is a high security place.
tom segura
The bathroom was like another 20 feet.
joe rogan
No, you couldn't make it.
ari shaffir
You've justified it.
bert kreischer
Yeah, you guys get fucked up on those Protect Your Parks.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
bert kreischer
Can I tell you, I'm a little jealous that all ours are always sober.
joe rogan
Feeding his dick like a snake into a rat hole.
ari shaffir
That looks like a picture you put in front of a 7-Eleven, like this man.
joe rogan
Right next to the Jimi Hendrix painting.
ari shaffir
And I'm bent over because I'm almost ready to pass out.
tom segura
It's the Stockton serial killer right there.
joe rogan
Look how filled that fucking whiskey jug is, too.
He pissed in that a couple of times.
God.
ari shaffir
Fun times.
joe rogan
Protect our parks are fucking awesome.
bert kreischer
Those look fun.
ari shaffir
It's the most fun.
joe rogan
They're so fun.
Are we doing November?
ari shaffir
November 2nd, I think.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to do it.
tom segura
Oh, you're going to turn loose.
bert kreischer
You're having your first drink with them and not us?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
I'll have a first drink with you.
I mean, I'll have a second drink with them.
I'll have a first drink with you.
bert kreischer
November 2nd, my birthday's November 3rd.
unidentified
I'd be happy.
joe rogan
Do you want to get together November 1st?
Let's tie one on.
Fuck it.
Let's go.
Come here.
Let's go.
Let's fucking go.
tom segura
November 1st?
joe rogan
Let's have some barbecue.
Drink some beers.
bert kreischer
The best feeling is that first drink when...
So the first Sober October we did, me and Ari met up in New Orleans.
We had our first drink together.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Malort's, right?
Something like that.
joe rogan
You're here?
November 1st.
Tommy and I get a hamburger.
bert kreischer
I can be here.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
Ari, what are you doing November 1st?
ari shaffir
We could do it in the afternoon.
I could fly in the morning.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's do a show that night.
Let's have some fun.
bert kreischer
The first time me and Ari meet up in New Orleans, I feel great.
People always talk about gratitude.
I remember having so much gratitude for you guys because I had never stopped for that long and being like, I'm glad I have friends that made this fun.
Me and Ari went down.
joe rogan
Well, you were worried at first.
You thought it was an intervention.
ari shaffir
It was.
bert kreischer
I went home after that.
Joe, you get in serious mode sometimes where it's not fun anymore.
You pull me aside and you grab me like, hey, just so you know, you don't have to do this.
And I was like, the fuck is it?
You're making it real.
I laid in bed that night after that first Sober October thing.
I laid in bed and I go, I think I just ruined my career.
joe rogan
Well, can I tell you why I did that?
Because my doctor friend told me that you could die.
He said there's one thing that does actually kill people, and it's withdrawal from alcohol.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we all were really actually legit worried.
We're like, that could happen.
joe rogan
There's two drugs that kill people when they get off of them.
Benzodiazepine is one of them.
Benzos, Xanax.
Xanax actually can kill people if you get off of it.
Your body becomes so addicted to it that when you get off of it, your body just fucking freaks out and you die.
bert kreischer
And that shows you how great benzos are.
joe rogan
Well, that's what happened to Jordan Peterson.
That's what happened to Jordan Peterson.
tom segura
What was he up to?
Do you know what he was consuming?
joe rogan
He doesn't really discuss that.
He's a little tight-lipped about that.
tom segura
But it's got to be significant for people to go through it.
joe rogan
I do not know.
I was sad that he did it in the first place because I think he didn't understand the withdrawal.
bert kreischer
No one understands with benzos because the doctor prescribes it.
They always give you like one milligram and then you're like, oh, wow.
You take that one milligram and it's overwhelming and then slowly but surely that one milligram...
unidentified
What does it do?
bert kreischer
It's like Jesus.
joe rogan
You've done it?
tom segura
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
What does it feel like?
bert kreischer
It's the greatest feeling in the world.
joe rogan
Xanax is?
tom segura
I mean, it literally, just imagine yourself being very anxious and it's just being eliminated.
joe rogan
But doesn't it rebound until your anxiety increases when you get off of it?
That's what I've heard.
tom segura
I mean, it's short-lasting.
The thing about Xanax and stuff is that it's fast-acting, so it hits you pretty quickly.
And if it's strong, not only would it reduce your anxiety, but you would get a buzz of sorts.
You feel good.
It can be addictive.
But people take different quantities of it.
So taking a milligram is actually a strong dose.
bert kreischer
If I ever take one, I take 0.25.
joe rogan
How often do you take it?
bert kreischer
I still have the same 30 that was prescribed to me from like two years ago.
joe rogan
So you can just do it every now and then and not do it?
bert kreischer
Oh yeah.
I had a problem with it.
I had a problem with it.
Legit problem.
joe rogan
Dom Irera was taking quite a bit of it.
He was taking it a lot, but he said it made him feel great.
He was having issues.
tom segura
Panic, anxiety.
bert kreischer
With a glass of white wine?
joe rogan
I'll tell you what, all anxiety goes away when I do hard cardio all the time.
We were talking about this last night, is that one of the things that's coming out of this Sober October thing that came out of the last time we had the fitness challenge, and you and I talked about this, there's a thing that happens when you do that hard cardio every day where you don't give a fuck.
tom segura
It's true.
ari shaffir
It gets easier.
joe rogan
Yeah, it gets easier to do the hard cardio because you get in shape, but you were talking about the inner chatter.
tom segura
Yeah, because all stress, anxiety, everybody has different degrees of it, but when you're doing hard workouts, like when you fucking gas yourself, you're done, and you do it consistently, nothing really.
joe rogan
It's just hard to stay consistent and to recognize that that really is like a medicine.
tom segura
But it's like a medicine.
It does leave you feeling like you can't think about other stuff.
bert kreischer
What's the exercise for you?
joe rogan
For me, it's cardio.
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
Out of all the cardio, it's not running.
Is it the rowing machine or the bike?
joe rogan
Well, I have a knee issue that fucks with me when I run and I've been getting stem cells in it.
I fixed my right knee.
Ways to Well.
Shout out to Ways to Well.
My right knee is 100% now.
Zero problems.
And I had a torn meniscus in it.
It was swell sometimes and I get like a cyst.
I got it drained like six, seven times.
It was a real problem.
It's gone now.
Like I can do everything.
tom segura
Shout out to Brigham.
joe rogan
Yeah, shout out.
bert kreischer
Leanne's hooking up with Brigham.
She's doing it.
joe rogan
They're great.
Stem cells are amazing.
bert kreischer
But what's the actual exercise?
Like for me, the only way I can find myself pushing it to where I'm going like I'm about to throw up is a rowing machine.
joe rogan
Rowing machines are great.
ari shaffir
Rowing machines are great.
I honestly need an outside motivator.
So if it's just me trying to get in shape, it's like, why not quit?
Why today?
But if it's when I'm competing against you guys, when I'm like, I have to do this from an outside push, then I can keep going.
joe rogan
My wife gets very uncomfortable when we start doing these things.
bert kreischer
Oh, your wife.
joe rogan
My wife gets scared of me being obsessed.
ari shaffir
Nobody's significant other.
joe rogan
During the fucking Sober October fitness challenge, I went off the rails.
It was nuts.
bert kreischer
My wife gets me sober once a year and all I do is talk about you guys.
Yeah.
Texting her pictures of Joe shirtless, and she's like, hey, don't let this happen again.
Have fun with it.
Just stay healthy.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's why we mitigated that by making this not a contest.
ari shaffir
I signed up from a gym to get, you know...
To be able to work out.
And they're like, oh, we haven't seen you here since October 30th, 2019. Yeah, exactly.
tom segura
I think for me, that tank, I love that Torque Fitness tank.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's great.
tom segura
That thing really feels, I don't know, it feels amazing.
joe rogan
It's a sled that you push or pull.
tom segura
I love that.
joe rogan
We have one out here.
ari shaffir
Like a tackle?
joe rogan
Well, it has resistance.
You can ramp up the resistance.
tom segura
Resistance levers.
joe rogan
Jamie, pull it up.
Torque makes it.
It's one of the best fitness tools.
So you push that thing.
bert kreischer
That guy looks just like you.
joe rogan
And then you also can put a strap on it and you pull it backwards.
tom segura
Yeah, it has different, and then it has a rope.
ari shaffir
Put a fucking lawnmower on there and do two things at once.
bert kreischer
The whole time I thought!
tom segura
That was every comment on that thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not as difficult.
tom segura
The other thing I think that really fucking takes me to that level of like, holy shit, is mitts or a bag.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, man.
tom segura
Really going ham on that.
bert kreischer
I don't have any coordination punching.
tom segura
I really look like a chick.
unidentified
I could show you that.
joe rogan
I could show you that easy.
tom segura
That is hilarious what you're just doing right now.
joe rogan
The wrists?
bert kreischer
In my movie, I think I had my fingers, or I was doing this, and they were like, yo!
joe rogan
Dude, I could teach you that pretty easy.
I guarantee you I could teach you how to punch pretty easy.
You'd figure it out.
bert kreischer
It's amazing.
I think I'm tough, like if some guy talks shit, but when I hit mitts, I really don't know what I'm doing.
tom segura
But if some guy was like, and you go, I'll fuck you up, and then you went like this...
bert kreischer
I can do your hair first.
joe rogan
The key is to learn how to do it where you're not trying to hit something hard.
That's the thing.
Everybody tries hard, and when you try hard, you like, and you use all these muscles, and you fuck up your thing.
When you learn how to punch correctly, the right way for someone to teach you is literally to teach you just you're not even doing it hard.
You're just learning how to move your body correctly, and then it becomes muscle memory.
And then it becomes ingrained in your pathway, so you know where you're putting your foot.
And then once you actually start hitting something hard, then your body knows what the motions are.
The problem is when you strain.
You see big guys do that.
Big, strong guys.
They know they can hit hard, so they try to hit hard.
They grunt and they stretch everything out.
That's the wrong way to do it.
tom segura
They're also gassed in like 20 seconds.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you're using so much muscle.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
You know, you want to use technique and you can learn how to do it like slowly and softly.
It's just teaching yourself to not try to hit it hard.
tom segura
You see those pros are so loose too, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Like their shoulders just kind of...
joe rogan
That's the same thing with jujitsu too.
The way to really learn jujitsu is to drill.
You just learn how to do something in a drill, where you're not straining against a person.
You're learning how to just train your body to go through the motions.
The best I got at jiu-jitsu, the biggest leap that I got was between blue belt and purple belt.
That's because I was training with Eddie, and we were training almost four or five days a week.
And we would drill all the time.
I had mats in my garage.
We'd go get high, and he would go over techniques with me.
Eddie's a fucking great instructor, too.
ari shaffir
He really breaks it down so well.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
So good at it.
So he can get it.
joe rogan
And even though he's like, you know, he's a stoner, and he's like this wild dude, he's very disciplined.
ari shaffir
He smokes weed?
joe rogan
A little bit.
bert kreischer
I went up behind him one time to take him down at the store, just as a gag.
joe rogan
Oh, good luck.
bert kreischer
And he, as I grabbed him, you know, Eddie went, don't do that.
And I was like, he's like, you know, I'm trying to do one thing, and it happens.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Jitsu, that wears me out completely.
Wore me out completely.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Like, all parts of your body, because it's, like, wrestling in general.
joe rogan
Well, that is another thing that, like, alleviates anxiety with people.
What do you want?
Coffee.
bert kreischer
This is the best goddamn cigar I've ever had in my entire fucking life.
unidentified
Very good.
bert kreischer
It's the best fucking...
I haven't had any buzz at all.
ari shaffir
I've had a buzz.
bert kreischer
It's a Jaime Garcia.
They make...
My father's is, like, the number one cigar out there.
My father's always wins the...
But this is all...
ari shaffir
We got this at the bachelor party.
unidentified
Oh.
ari shaffir
We got my father, the judges.
And then me and Liss got a bunch of other cigars for the people who were like, I'll try a cigar.
I'll be like, I'll have the special one for you.
unidentified
Try one less.
ari shaffir
Like a not as good one.
They're so cheap in Tampa.
bert kreischer
That fucking bachelor party was sick.
ari shaffir
That was a lot of fun.
They won me over.
Sidesplitters won me over.
Sidesplitters?
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, this place is great.
I'll be back.
joe rogan
I've never been.
Never been to that.
ari shaffir
It's a real club.
bert kreischer
It's a really cool club.
ari shaffir
It was funny watching Bert.
Remember what it's like to be in a club?
He's waiting to go on.
Like, jump on.
Nobody else is there.
And he's waiting outside the showroom.
People are like, all right, Bert, can I get a picture?
He's like, oh, fuck.
He didn't know what to stand.
He's just in the kitchen, like, moving past, like, waiters.
Sorry, sorry, I'm in the way.
I'm like, this is club comedy, Bert.
You forgot.
bert kreischer
I know you know this because you like sports the way I do, but, like, you do Cleveland, you do the arena in Cleveland, and you're making the same walk LeBron makes, and you're going, like, there's a gravitas that comes with those arenas where you, like, Like, you hear the people, and you're walking down the hallway, and you're seeing jerseys up, and you're like, yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, those tunnels.
The tunnels.
bert kreischer
And then you go to Sidesplitters, and you're in the kitchen, and they're like, plate coming around the corner, and you're like, sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
You're like, how am I supposed to get in my head?
I hope they really pop when I take my shirt off.
joe rogan
I hope they really pop when I take my shirt off.
You're trapped.
You have to take your shirt off for the rest of your life.
bert kreischer
I'm in it.
joe rogan
What are you going to do if you get ripped?
bert kreischer
Throw me in the briar patch.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I would love to be ripped.
I would love, for on this special, I would love to, all I want is someone just to, remember when Chappelle, remember when Chappelle got guns?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And all everyone just, on the deal, they're like, dude, his fucking arms look good.
That's all I want.
So I'm going to go, goddammit, man, he's got delts.
He's got delts.
joe rogan
That's all you want?
bert kreischer
Just, I'm always going to have the belly, I think, but just someone to go, he doesn't look that bad.
ari shaffir
Can I discuss your belly real quick?
bert kreischer
Please.
ari shaffir
So it's always, Tom and I have talked about this.
tom segura
You look like a trans man that's having quintuplets.
unidentified
Oh, that's so good.
Uh-oh.
bert kreischer
Oh, that's so good.
ari shaffir
But we talk about how it's pushed out all the time.
joe rogan
It's hard.
ari shaffir
No, it has begun to fall over.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ari was obsessed with it last night.
He was pointing to it on stage like it's the Zapruder film.
ari shaffir
It has finally fallen.
unidentified
It's been there.
ari shaffir
I compared it to a growing mushroom the day after it rains.
bert kreischer
No, you're confusing two bellies.
ari shaffir
Explain.
bert kreischer
My belly has fallen over like everyone else's.
When I did Secret Time, I didn't realize that it already happened until they did the billboard of it.
And they did the billboard, and I go, that's not my stomach.
My stomach's tight.
And it was a...
joe rogan
You have the craziest, most delusional perspective.
bert kreischer
I think I have body dysmorphia.
joe rogan
The text message you sent us the other day, I could do more push-ups than anyone in this group.
ari shaffir
I think you can, Bert.
bert kreischer
Cheap push-ups, Marky Marks.
joe rogan
Yeah, but cheap push-ups I could do for days.
tom segura
I knew.
I knew it was like Vintage Bert.
unidentified
There it is.
bert kreischer
Secret time.
That's me, and they put that up on fucking Melrose, and I go, that's not me.
What?
joe rogan
You thought your belly was smaller than that?
That's me at like 220. Right, but you, at the time, thought your belly was smaller than that.
bert kreischer
I thought I was in great shape.
And they put that up on Melrose, and I saw it, I drove past it, and I go, oh, they must have put someone else's belly on me or Photoshopped it.
tom segura
Yeah, this is like when you go, like, I have legit the best shoulders.
bert kreischer
I do.
Hold on, I do.
I have legit great shoulders.
Like, great fucking shoulders.
joe rogan
No.
No, you don't.
bert kreischer
Joe, they're ripping through this shirt right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you say things and you don't really mean it, right?
unidentified
No, I kind of mean it.
joe rogan
When you say things and you know they're not true.
bert kreischer
I kind of mean it.
ari shaffir
He does mean it.
bert kreischer
I kind of mean it.
tom segura
I kind of mean it, which means he means it.
joe rogan
But you say things you know aren't true.
Like, remember that one time you said he could do the splits?
bert kreischer
I actually thought I might be able to pull one out.
But more importantly, out of that whole...
Look at those fucking...
joe rogan
That looks pretty good.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
If you look at me, if I take my shirt off and just do like this, you go, yeah.
joe rogan
No, right there you look pretty good, though.
But you've got to know that you can't do the splits.
Like, why'd you say that?
bert kreischer
Because I thought I could pull it out.
Same reason I said I could run a marathon with no training.
joe rogan
Yeah, but a marathon is like you can run five miles.
I've seen you run five miles.
So just keep going.
The idea of doing the splits is crazy.
bert kreischer
The best part of that story, for me, was when you did a split, and then you looked at me and you said, have you ever done a split?
And I said, no.
And then in your eyes, you go, like you're almost trying to talk to an island of people you discovered.
You go, what made you think you could do that?
And I go, I don't know.
And you went...
Why could you do it?
Yeah, you're like, but what?
You've never done it.
And I said, yeah, I know.
And you go, and you were willing to hurt yourself?
And I was like, yeah.
I was going to see if I could do it.
I just thought I could do it.
joe rogan
But it takes a long time to get that flexible.
That's not a normal human thing.
unidentified
I don't know.
bert kreischer
Let's just roll the dice.
I like that energy, though.
That's Cinderella story energy.
joe rogan
That's not a Cinderella story.
That's a torn hamstring story.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I like when you go places and people underestimate you.
And I love my favorite part of Sober October is the subtle shit talk where you go, I will murder you.
I said, I think I can do more push-ups than you.
And your reply was, I will kill you.
And I started giggling so hard.
I'm at dinner with my family and they're like, what are you laughing at?
And I go, Joe.
And they go, what did he say that's funny?
I go, was only funny if you know him intimately.
Because I know you, you're like, what the fuck?
And then I thought, I really thought, because I've been to Ways to Wellness with you.
Is it Ways to Wellness?
tom segura
Ways to Well.
bert kreischer
Ways to Well with you so many times.
And I've seen you getting the shots in your shoulders.
I go, I bet he can't do a push-up.
I bet he can't do a push-up because of his shoulders.
That's what I thought.
joe rogan
But they're not that bad.
ari shaffir
You unlock in Joe a competitiveness that only comes out around you.
When he did it at your studio, the whatever it's called, arm wrestle.
But just the way he was like, let's do it, fine.
It wasn't that competitive, but it was still like, he was like, bye!
And then just walks out.
Crushes through, then walks out.
Like, you're an idiot.
With Burt, it's like, it makes you mad.
tom segura
It's because Burt's making claims, though.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you have a delusional perspective that I just don't understand.
ari shaffir
You're a truth seeker, and this guy attacks that.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I am the Alex Jones of fitness.
ari shaffir
Hey, I just...
In what way?
I literally just made this comparison yesterday.
bert kreischer
In that I talk wild shit, and then every now and then it matches up.
ari shaffir
That's exactly what I said!
bert kreischer
Every now and then you're like, oh shit, frogs are gay.
joe rogan
You're the guy that goes to the center core and goes, I bet I could fucking hit this from here.
And everyone's like, no way.
And then you swish, and then you walk away.
ari shaffir
Once in a long while, you'll pull out a marathon.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll pull out a miracle.
bert kreischer
Every now and then people are like, What the fuck?
joe rogan
When we were doing the Sober October Fitness Challenge, you were what I thought of 80% of the time.
ari shaffir
Hatred.
Spite drive.
joe rogan
There was just fury inside me.
I was like, I'm gonna drag him to hell.
unidentified
That's my brand.
Jesus Christ.
bert kreischer
Dude, when we went to...
We were doing Fully Loaded, but at the end of the day, these professional baseball players were on the field.
And they're like, hey man, I heard you want to try out for the team.
And I was like, I'll fucking give it all up right now for one season, one contract.
And they're like, can you swing?
And Attell goes, I got a hundred bucks that says he doesn't connect.
And I went, okay.
And then literally got up there and one hopping off the fence.
And Attell's like, are you fucking serious?
And then the pitcher goes, looks at the team, he goes, these are with no pace.
There's no pace on these balls.
ari shaffir
What does that mean, pace?
bert kreischer
Meaning he's throwing them at like 40 miles an hour, so I'm doing all the work to get the ball out there.
He goes, with a little bit of pace, I think it'll go yard.
And I was like, put some pace on it.
You can find the video of me hitting fucking bombs.
joe rogan
I think you are a secret athlete.
I really do.
I just think you just don't do anything about it.
tom segura
You also have a specific athleticism.
bert kreischer
I have things I'm good at.
I have a few things that I'm good at.
tom segura
See, when I first heard you were a good athlete, or you told me that, I was like, get the fuck out of here.
Because it's all based on what What you know now.
Well, what your origin is of athleticism, you know what I mean?
A kid who played a lot of baseball thinks of somebody good at baseball.
If you played football, that's all I did, great athlete means runs the fastest, jumps the highest, Can bench fucking 225, 30 times.
I was like, no you're not.
But then I saw him do all the things that are...
It's still athletic.
It's just outside of that realm.
ari shaffir
Right?
tom segura
It's like everything that was hand-eye, golf, ball, everything.
He could like, I'll throw this ball and hit that thing off that bar over there.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
And then he'd go, boom, and ding it.
And I was like, oh, shit.
He can make these wild claims on...
joe rogan
Maybe that's where the delusional part...
Because you don't have any...
You really believe it.
tom segura
That's the thing he does.
bert kreischer
I do.
tom segura
Because he's a real dreamer, too.
He really is.
bert kreischer
It's the way I tell the story.
I live in a world where I want you to feel it.
It's not about reality.
It's about feeling it.
It's why I like alcohol.
I like the feelings.
I don't need it to be I don't need it to be real.
I want the energy.
That's why I love a cigar and coffee.
That's not how you're supposed to start a day.
And I think I am that way with physical achievements.
My friends I grew up with have said this.
They look at me sometimes a little bummed out.
They'll be like, what happened to your body, man?
You're a legit athlete.
This isn't who you are.
When I went to college, I remember intramural softball.
Everyone was making big claims about how good they were, and I was like, I'm actually really good.
And I was like, I'm not going to say a fucking word.
I'm not going to say a word.
Everyone thinks I'm some stoner alcoholic.
I'm just going to go in and just fucking drop bombs.
And then that look on someone's face when they expect nothing of you and you over-deliver is, I think, how I've set up my career.
Same with stand-up.
I remember ripping my shirt off, and I remember David Letterman was doing an interview with Mike Binder, And Binder texted it to me, and David Letterman goes, I mean, he rips his shirt off.
Like, you don't expect anything, and then it's good material.
And then I got that, I was crying, because I was like, that's, everything I want you to do is, like, under-believe and then over-achieve.
But I think with, but I think, especially with sports, I have a little bit of...
I live in maybe not a big reality.
ari shaffir
I'm like that with fucking.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
I can't fuck at all.
I'm very real about fucking.
I can't fuck at all.
unidentified
At all.
I feel bad for Leanne sometimes.
tom segura
Even she talks about it.
unidentified
Can you imagine this mounting you and just humping you?
joe rogan
She's probably so worried you're gonna die on her.
bert kreischer
No, I've come so fast that she's laughed.
I came so fast one time, started laughing.
I go, hey, you're not supposed to laugh when people come.
She goes, I mean, come on.
ari shaffir
You'd have to see the humor in this.
bert kreischer
She goes, I don't think you could have gotten AIDS from that fuck.
Fuck, that was so quick.
unidentified
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Fast.
Fast.
bert kreischer
Like fast.
tom segura
Every time?
bert kreischer
If I go down on her, it'll be like three pumps.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Get excited.
Get that J in you.
bert kreischer
I can grind on the bed while I go down on her and fucking come in the sheets.
I'm fucking quick.
joe rogan
And this is like with jacking off?
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you don't jack off for a while, then you fuck, it's like almost immediate.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
bert kreischer
It's probably why I don't cheat, because I think if I fuck someone, the look of disappointment in their face.
unidentified
Fear.
bert kreischer
I remember I fucked one chick.
I fucked one chick.
I told Tony Woods this story, he said, never tell anyone this story.
I fucked her and I came so fast she got angry.
ari shaffir
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
And she goes, you need to read a book.
You need to read a book or get online and learn something.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's a rude thing for a girl to see.
ari shaffir
Read a book and then come back and finish your job.
bert kreischer
And then she goes, and I was going to say, give me a minute, I'll go again.
And then I was like, hey, you can't talk to me like that.
That's not cool.
Like, what if I said, it's really shitty.
We just had sex.
Like, I know I came fast.
And she got really mad.
And then I was like, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
Like, this isn't cool.
And then she went to my, I was still naked.
ari shaffir
She's like, you're not cool.
bert kreischer
And I had a beer in my hand.
My roommate came out, Weecho.
And I still had a condom and a beer in the kitchen.
And I went like this.
ari shaffir
You're still wearing your used condom?
unidentified
Who does that?
joe rogan
Walk it out with a fucking filled condom.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
Just like the little reservoir just like dangling.
bert kreischer
My buddy Weecho comes around the corner and I go, she'll be gone in a second.
And she came out and she goes, are you being fucking serious?
I gotta go to Brooklyn now?
And I was like, I just can't let you talk to me.
That's not cool.
My feelings are hurting.
I'm like, that's not how this works.
Like, you're not my girlfriend, but you can't like yell at me.
I go, I know I wasn't good.
And she got to the door.
She goes, I can't fucking believe this.
And then she was really angry and she faked a punch.
And I spilled beer all over myself and my dick went up and hit me in the stomach.
We both started laughing hysterically.
ari shaffir
You and the woman?
bert kreischer
Me and the woman both started laughing in my door hysterically.
And then she smiled and went to my neighbor's door and pounded on the door.
She goes, Bert Kreischer can't fuck!
And knocked on every door down the hall.
ari shaffir
Wow.
Good for her.
bert kreischer
Good move.
unidentified
That's a solid move.
bert kreischer
Jesus Christ, dude.
tom segura
Where did you find that fucking animal?
joe rogan
Don't divorce her.
bert kreischer
Boston Comedy Club.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I shaved my legs for this.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
ari shaffir
That reminds me of when we went to that national championship game and we're trying to skirt the line.
And they weren't famous then.
And we're just, like, trying to get through, trying to get through.
And everyone's like, hey, what the fuck?
You gave him a hundred bucks?
Some random, like, bouncer guy.
Security guy.
And they was like, why?
Who are you guys?
And Bert just goes, I'm Tom Segura.
bert kreischer
Google me, motherfucker.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And you're just like, come on.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
That was the funniest.
Do you remember one lady's, like...
Hold on!
Did you just play a black guy to walk you to the front?
And we're like, that's exactly what we did.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I mean, we didn't take his race into account.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
tom segura
He just has the yellow jacket that says security.
bert kreischer
Yeah, the yellow jacket that says security.
unidentified
Yeah, that's hilarious.
ari shaffir
You're just mad you didn't think of it.
tom segura
We were just like, hey man, make this happen.
He was like, okay.
unidentified
Done.
ari shaffir
No one knows this.
I realized this when I was working the door at the store.
If you tip a guy $20, $100, you owned me for the night.
I'll do whatever the fuck you wanted for $20.
For $100?
tom segura
Let's go.
You're running late by the way at an airport, and you find somebody that works at the airport, and you have cash, give that person $20, $40, whatever.
That person will get you through security, for sure.
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
Absolutely.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you just give me four hours of time.
joe rogan
You say, hey, I'm in a rush.
You get a hundred bucks, give me to the line.
tom segura
They know the people at TSA. And then they'll be like, okay.
And then they'll look for someone they know.
They'll be like, hey, man, hey, hey, hey.
And then they'll just get you.
joe rogan
There's nothing like a cool person at TSA. Yeah.
Like every now and then, you know that story I tell about the lady who got randomly selected at TSA? There's nothing about a funny person that you meet at TSA. You're like, all right, we're okay.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
The world's okay.
You're a person who's in this weird position where people every day are bullshitting you and you're trying to do your job, but every now and then you run into a cool person.
ari shaffir
I asked the guy once, because sometimes they say your name out loud, and it's like, what?
Why do I have to say my name out loud on my ID? And so I asked the guy, I was like, why here and not anywhere else?
And he goes, oh, because the guy who runs this TSA at Newark is a power-hungry?
And I was like, Ari Shaffir.
He's like, go ahead.
I'm like, good answer.
bert kreischer
I used to do concierge key for American when I flew American.
And there's this dude at the gate.
tom segura
Butterfly's private.
bert kreischer
Tony.
unidentified
Go ahead.
joe rogan
What is concierge key?
tom segura
It's like their highest level.
bert kreischer
I got in trouble for talking about it on this podcast.
I got kicked out of concierge key for talking about it on this podcast.
What?
ari shaffir
What's concierge key?
tom segura
It's their highest level.
bert kreischer
It's the highest level.
It's invitation only.
joe rogan
They take you into that sneaky little spot.
Oh, I did that once.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
It's the highest level you can get.
It's invitation only by American Airlines.
I got it.
tom segura
Like for super loyal people.
bert kreischer
And they're like, do not talk about it.
And I talked about it on Rogan.
And then the woman called me and chastised me.
ari shaffir
Wow.
bert kreischer
And said, just so you know...
We don't appreciate you talking about this on your little podcast.
It's the biggest podcast in the world.
And they lost me at that moment.
I go, you're not allowed to call me and chastise me in my house.
That's not how that works.
tom segura
Not unless I come super fast, right?
bert kreischer
This isn't cool.
joe rogan
So how could they have a thing that you're not allowed to talk about?
bert kreischer
It's called Concierge Key.
Tom Papa hit me up about it.
He's dying to get it.
You go through a private line in the airport.
Now I just do private suite, which is fucking the best.
That's a separate entrance on the other side of the airport.
tom segura
That's the shit.
bert kreischer
That's the shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've done that.
ari shaffir
That's where Beyonce goes?
bert kreischer
It's where Beyonce, Kardashians, everyone goes there.
ari shaffir
Private entrance?
bert kreischer
You've got to get a membership.
joe rogan
Own TSA. Are you allowed to talk about that?
bert kreischer
Fuck yes.
They're fucking badass.
Do you see the picture?
Pull up my stories.
They had a bottle of Tito's wrapped in caution tape in my suite yesterday.
And they're like, we'll hold this until November.
Then the dude rolled in.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
bert kreischer
I told them, I go, man, I'm bummed.
I need a treat to be here, and I don't want to see any treats.
And they have a diet root beer.
Dude came back with Kool-Aid packets.
ari shaffir
No way.
bert kreischer
A tray of Kool-Aid packets.
That's private suite.
This is the fucking greatest.
unidentified
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
ari shaffir
Caution tape.
bert kreischer
They are the best.
ari shaffir
We'll save this for you until November.
Oh, I get it now.
unidentified
That's cool.
bert kreischer
If you don't fly, then look, he just walked in with a thing of Kool-Aid for me.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
They're the best.
The fucking best.
joe rogan
Well, you drink Kool-Aid.
Are you drinking diet Kool-Aid or regular Kool-Aid?
bert kreischer
Zero sugar.
Zero sugar.
joe rogan
What's in there?
bert kreischer
Zero sugar.
It's zero sugar.
joe rogan
But what's in there?
bert kreischer
It's not sugar.
joe rogan
What's the flavoring?
Have you ever looked at the ingredients?
bert kreischer
It's triglycerides and peptides.
It's good shit.
joe rogan
Keeps you young.
bert kreischer
The private sweets, the shit.
The first time I did it, they gifted it to me.
They said, you know, I was coming in, I was panicked.
I think my travel agent was like, hey, he's only got like eight hours in L.A., Private suite.
tom segura
You get a membership, right?
bert kreischer
I'm a member now.
ari shaffir
Just at LAX or everywhere?
Just at LAX. At your main airport.
bert kreischer
But you drive in.
You take a separate entrance.
They bring you into a suite.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
They have all the shit you like.
Liquid Death always.
Tito's.
They bring caviar.
What?
unidentified
Caviar.
What?
bert kreischer
It's next.
It's the greatest treat you can give yourself flying that isn't flying private.
It's the greatest treat you can give yourself.
joe rogan
You're all about treats.
bert kreischer
I'm defined by treats.
joe rogan
You're all about rewards.
tom segura
I'm defined by treats.
bert kreischer
When you guys are talking about self-help books, I have a self-help book that I have chaptered out for the way I get by.
Because there's more people that are like me than going to be like Cam Haynes.
So I want those guys to succeed.
And one of the things, number one thing, and I bet you've asked a lot of people that are successful, the number one thing I need is treats.
I need a treat.
I need something to look forward to at the end of the day.
And right now it's Kool-Aid.
I bet I have it in my pocket.
I just don't walk around without Kool-Aid.
Yeah, I got Kool-Aid in my pocket.
tom segura
I don't walk around without Kool-Aid.
bert kreischer
Because I get a bottle of water and I go, I know I should drink this water, but I need a treat.
I need something to...
joe rogan
Why don't you put liquid IV in there?
I love liquid IV. Liquid IV tastes great and it's actually good for you.
bert kreischer
I love liquid IV. They're a little bigger packets.
joe rogan
Too big for your pocket?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
But PrivateSuite is...
So the first time I use it, they go, we want you to experience the...
ari shaffir
Your problem with Liquid IV is the packet size?
tom segura
Why don't you get a fanny pack?
bert kreischer
They're pretty big.
joe rogan
Why don't you get a fanny pack?
How come you don't have a fanny pack?
bert kreischer
I have one in the morning, but I'm not putting them in my pocket.
joe rogan
You seem like a guy that needs a fanny pack.
How come you don't use one?
bert kreischer
I'm a fanny pack guy.
joe rogan
Are you?
bert kreischer
Yeah, I'm a fanny pack guy.
I love fanny packs.
joe rogan
Do you want one like this?
I have these.
bert kreischer
I want one definitely like that.
tom segura
Legitimately, this is much smaller.
ari shaffir
This is much smaller.
bert kreischer
First time, this is how PrivateSuite hooked me.
I got eight hours at home.
My travel agent reaches out.
There's a place called Private Suite.
They'll meet you at the plane, take you off the plane in a car, and get you home.
And so they grab your bags for you.
You don't have to go through any of this stuff.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's great.
bert kreischer
And so I go, and they go, we know you're on a time crunch.
We got you a helicopter taking you home.
ari shaffir
What?
bert kreischer
I flew LAX to Burbank.
I was home in, from the second we touched down, I was home in 20 fucking minutes.
tom segura
That's fucking sweet.
bert kreischer
And the guy gets in the helicopter and he goes, you want to go to the interstate?
You want to go to the ocean?
I go, go to the ocean.
He goes, you want to get low?
And I was like, fuck yeah.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
And we flew about 20 feet off the fucking ocean just...
And then got to Burbank and I was home.
ari shaffir
Another good impression of the sound.
You're just killing the sound.
What the fuck?
bert kreischer
And by the way, Private Suite, if you're not cool with me talking about this, I apologize.
I'll never leave you.
I'll never leave you.
I'll be a member forever.
joe rogan
Why don't we do a tour?
Let's do a little tour together.
Just a few dates.
bert kreischer
Can I promote it?
Because we'll be doing fucking stadiums.
ari shaffir
We will be doing fucking stadiums.
joe rogan
I don't like outdoors.
bert kreischer
Tell me what you want to do, Joe.
The Gorge?
Let's do The Gorge.
What's The Gorge?
ari shaffir
There's a great music festival there near Seattle.
bert kreischer
We do The Gorge.
We do that cave in fucking Tennessee.
Have you seen The Cave?
Type in Cave Theater, Tennessee.
This is fucking next level.
Look, I'm all about...
Eventizing an evening.
I love, there's nothing I love more than hearing Steely Dan's coming to the Hollywood Bowl.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Oh my god, where is that?
unidentified
That's intense!
ari shaffir
Oh my god, that's amazing!
joe rogan
Holy shit, that's incredible!
Why have I never heard of this?
bert kreischer
Dude, I'm telling you right now.
joe rogan
Who is that on stage?
ari shaffir
I think it's your mom.
joe rogan
Oh my god, my mom.
Dude, that fucking cave looks incredible.
bert kreischer
Look at the gorge.
That's fucking Red Rocks.
ari shaffir
Red Rocks, I might be the most jealous of anyone I've ever seen play a venue was you playing Red Rocks.
joe rogan
You love Red Rocks?
ari shaffir
It's just so cool.
John Denver said if I had one set left in my life, it would be Red Rocks.
bert kreischer
You haven't done Red Rocks?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
The Beatles played there.
It's such a great night in that you get there early.
joe rogan
That's where Bird did his last special.
bert kreischer
You get there early.
You go in.
ari shaffir
I've been hiking there.
bert kreischer
That's the first time I did Red Rocks.
I'm a little overweight there.
ari shaffir
I think I gave Norma that shirt.
joe rogan
You look exactly the same.
unidentified
I know.
Oh.
bert kreischer
But Red Rocks, you go in, you get in there early, you do your sound check, you get an IV, you get dinner at the venue.
They make great dinner.
Then everyone starts piling in, the show starts.
The best part of Red Rocks is they give you an option.
You can go to Sebastian Maniscalco, get in the Sprinter, get out immediately.
Or you gotta wait till traffic dies.
Are you telling me I get to make a Tito's and soda and have a joint and sit on stage at Red Rocks?
ari shaffir
Sit on stage as they go?
bert kreischer
It's empty.
You smoke a joint and go, fuck yes.
ari shaffir
See the stars out there.
bert kreischer
Dude, it's amazing.
And the thing that I'm really attached to right now is...
Immersing yourself in the fan experience as an artist and saying, what do I want out of life?
I think it's easy for you to go, who gets me excited?
Like if you're a fan of like Wilco, I'm a fan of Wilco.
I saw Wilco at fucking these cocksuckers.
I saw him at Red Rocks and I was high and I was drunk.
And I was crying.
One of the songs, Ballin' Crying, cameraman just puts the camera on me, and I'm sobbing, crying, holding my wife, singing along.
But that moment for me is beautiful because I love Wilco.
And I got to see him at the most beautiful venue ever.
I try to do that for my tour.
ari shaffir
Looking at you from the audience.
bert kreischer
From the audience perspective.
If you're a fan of Burt, what do you want?
And this is what's great about touring when we did Fully Loaded with Shane Gillis.
He goes, are you fucking kidding me?
We're at a baseball field and you're just going to walk on stage?
He goes, you come running in from right field, the bullpen.
You come in.
ari shaffir
Play the walkout song.
bert kreischer
Play the walkout song.
Marianna Ravana.
Yeah, whatever.
unidentified
Fucking...
bert kreischer
The Metallica song, you know?
Enter Sandman.
Because it's lights out.
unidentified
And by the way, I got chills right now.
bert kreischer
I go up for that and just sprinting.
We do Thunder Valley.
They go, we'll put you in a sprint car and we'll play...
At the starting line.
And you're going 90 miles an hour standing up in a fucking car.
Like that.
For me, I think that's amazing.
So when you say a tour of us, my cock gets hard.
And I go, you eventized that.
joe rogan
How come we haven't done that yet?
tom segura
We talked about it before.
It's always been scheduled.
ari shaffir
We have to plan it far out.
tom segura
That's the truth.
joe rogan
Well, we have to plan it far out because I need to write a whole new act.
I'm in that spot where we're just filmed and I've got to fucking figure out how to put together an hour.
bert kreischer
He's the problem.
Because he's already doing the biggest venues you can do.
joe rogan
Right, but he'll be done around the time that the club's open and I'm ready to...
bert kreischer
He's touring until his children are in high school.
tom segura
No.
I do have my international stuff next year, but it ends in May.
ari shaffir
That's April, yeah.
We could do June or later.
joe rogan
June or later is good.
That's a good timeline.
bert kreischer
I got fully loaded, too.
ari shaffir
Later, later.
bert kreischer
I'm doing it for six weeks.
ari shaffir
Or October-ish.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's just six weeks.
So we talk about August, September.
ari shaffir
September.
bert kreischer
I'd do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
It'd be fun.
unidentified
It'd be fun.
joe rogan
Well, really, the way to do it is right before Sober October.
ari shaffir
Alright, yeah, right we don't want to do it in October right fuck party in September then are we committed to sober October for the rest of our lives Can I make a couple suggestions for next year's weed put weed back on the menu?
This tonight is gonna be a triggering event for me Because I haven't been in a situation where booze should be here or I should be on acid for Roger Waters Yeah, and that will be up I'll be itchy.
joe rogan
I hung out with Roger Waters yesterday and I played pool with him.
tom segura
You did?
You guys podcasted?
joe rogan
Yeah, we podcast, played pool.
tom segura
How was he?
joe rogan
He's great.
He's awesome.
He's such an interesting guy.
He's so fucking smart.
ari shaffir
I had an interview with him for the 25th or 30th anniversary of Dark Side of the Moon.
And they were like, did you know when you were writing this what kind of effect, how big it would be?
And he was like, yeah, I mean, it's great.
joe rogan
He takes his shit very, very seriously.
tom segura
I think he did an interview recently about Russia.
ari shaffir
Very anti-war.
joe rogan
Oh, we talked about that a lot yesterday.
tom segura
But he was kind of pro-Russian in his stance, right?
joe rogan
No, not necessarily.
He was saying that there's reasons why they're reacting this way.
It's because we violated treaties.
NATO has pushed weapons.
ari shaffir
Dave Smith was talking about that, too.
joe rogan
It's interesting.
It's not as simple and cut and dry as everybody said.
We orchestrated a coup there in 2014. I mean, it's not that simple.
It's like they've openly tried to persuade Ukraine to join NATO, and there's a lot going on with that.
I mean, it's not to excuse what Putin did.
Putin did something absolutely horrific, but it's not like he wasn't provoked.
tom segura
Well, sure.
He was provoked.
bert kreischer
And it's not like there aren't people that have a movie in a can about Russia that are waiting to release until this fucking war's over.
joe rogan
Yeah, when was that movie completed?
bert kreischer
It's over.
We're fucking sitting here because...
joe rogan
When was it completed?
How long ago?
bert kreischer
Almost a year ago.
Probably a year ago.
joe rogan
That is so wild that you can't release it because it's kind of pro-Russia.
tom segura
I think you were done over a year ago.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
And the war started and they were just like, oh, let's just...
I remember them going, we don't want...
You talking about the war.
ari shaffir
That's probably smart.
bert kreischer
You're probably not the expert on that.
I was like, wait, are we not pro-Russia?
And they're like, okay, good call.
Good call.
ari shaffir
Let's wait another two months.
bert kreischer
I was like, wait, I thought we were, guys, guys, they're our allies, right?
Are Axis something?
The best left?
ari shaffir
Axis of evil.
That sounds pretty cool.
Who's that?
bert kreischer
Hitler had friends.
joe rogan
They were our allies at one point in time.
bert kreischer
The best, best Pink Floyd song, in your opinion.
There's a song that you go...
joe rogan
There's so many.
ari shaffir
I mean, for me, it's money.
joe rogan
Money is fucking great.
ari shaffir
It's for you coming out this autumn.
joe rogan
Fucking song is so good.
tom segura
That song does rip.
bert kreischer
Wasting away!
ari shaffir
And the way they use non-instrumental instruments to start off, that was pretty good.
bert kreischer
Good job, man.
Way to go, Michael Winslow.
ari shaffir
I learned from the master.
joe rogan
Taking away the moments to make up a dull day.
bert kreischer
That transition into that song, that...
joe rogan
Here we go.
bert kreischer
This is money, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Money!
ari shaffir
It's so badass.
It's so badass.
joe rogan
They have so many good fucking songs.
And when you talk to Roger, you kind of know where it's coming from, man.
It's like, the guy is so deep.
I mean, the...
God damn, this is good.
unidentified
Get away, get a good job with the pain, you're okay.
Monday, it's a gas.
Grab that cash in both hands and make a stash.
New car cab, we are four-star, day-dreams in the final world football team.
joe rogan
Right now, Bert is picturing walking shirtless onto stage.
ari shaffir
What's the point of this song?
What's the switch though?
He's like, it's not the way to live life?
joe rogan
I think it's pointing out how crazy it is, the obsession that people have with money.
bert kreischer
The best is the one song they have about trying to split up the band.
ari shaffir
How people were trying to split it up?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Hey kid, you'll go far.
I think you'll be a big star.
As long as you get rid of it.
Which one of you is pink?
What's that song, Jamie?
ari shaffir
And then ten years will pass.
That's my favorite lyric.
How does it go?
And then ten years will pass without you noticing.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I would listen to this every day in Serbia going to the...
Have a cigar.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How are we going to go to see this sober?
tom segura
That's crazy.
ari shaffir
How are we going to go to see this sober?
joe rogan
I feel like we should have a one-day weed pass.
ari shaffir
Matt Stacks had a good point.
Religious exemption.
joe rogan
Oh, this is a religion.
tom segura
Where's the show?
Oh, this is such a jam.
Where's the show?
joe rogan
It's here.
tom segura
But what movie is it?
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
And you know, he's got this insane visual.
ari shaffir
Oh my god, it's so fucking cool.
bert kreischer
Almost like a sin not to smoke weed.
ari shaffir
When I saw him...
joe rogan
Keep talking.
I like what you're saying.
tom segura
This with lights?
bert kreischer
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I'm gonna buy a can of paint and a paper bag.
bert kreischer
You guys have new poppers.
joe rogan
Whatever I gotta do.
I'm gonna hold my breath.
ari shaffir
He had a bunch of kids come out on stage with torture masks on.
unidentified
He's just talking about agents trying to fuck up his students.
This is Hollywood.
joe rogan
Which one's pink?
bert kreischer
He wants to split them up immediately.
That's what they're trying to do to us, guys.
ari shaffir
The band's fantastic.
unidentified
I love it.
ari shaffir
Which one's pink?
joe rogan
Who's trying to split us up?
bert kreischer
Hollywood, baby.
unidentified
Hollywood, baby.
joe rogan
Hollywood has about as much influence on us as that banana rat does.
tom segura
That's true.
ari shaffir
We're completely removed.
joe rogan
We're the industry now.
tom segura
You can choose to dip into it if you want, but you don't have to.
ari shaffir
It's so funny, especially when comics come under fire and people turn on your friends, and you're like, no.
joe rogan
Why?
ari shaffir
What are you talking about, no?
joe rogan
Suck it.
Well, the people that don't have friends want you to turn on your friends.
The people that are in this like weird fucking group of people that are secretly fucking jealous and bitter of each other and they're all talking shit about each other.
Those are the ones that want you to turn on each other because they want you to be like them.
bert kreischer
But that's what this used to be.
I remember when I started this business, no one had friends.
You were kind of friends with people until they got something.
tom segura
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
There's still guys like that out there.
They're friends with you until you do really well, and then they just fucking hate.
But those are just bitter, weird narcissists.
ari shaffir
You guys started in a different system than I did.
joe rogan
Well, you started in the system that we created.
ari shaffir
Store of door guys of low-level people that it was like, finally, it was almost like when Pesci got, not Pesci, when Pesci got happy that, what's his name, got made.
It was like one of us.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Getting made.
As soon as somebody got passed, Aaron Cater was the first one to get passed, and we're like, yes!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Yeah, but I was already passed.
We were like that because we realized there was a benefit in all being together.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that we realized that there's so much more fun and camaraderie than there's this weird, bitter loneliness.
ari shaffir
The driver brought me in today.
He's like, you've been on here a lot, huh, on this podcast?
I was like, yeah.
I was like, oh, I've known Joe.
I was like, there's a few guys that when you started were like dicks, and there was a few guys like, You and Ralphie and they were like, you're funny, man.
You can do this.
It's just supportive.
I would say for no reason, but it's a human reason to do it, you know?
joe rogan
It's a human reason.
It benefits us.
The more people that are good, that are doing well, it benefits everybody.
This weird thing that it's all for you, that famine mentality is so poisonous for everything.
Not just for comedy, for every art form.
You want other people out there to kill you.
It's good for you.
It's good for everyone.
And it's definitely good for them.
ari shaffir
My best compliments, when people are like, I like this, I like that, my best is like, dude, you showed me so many comics from This Is Not Happening.
I discovered all these people.
joe rogan
Well, you're great at that, too, highlighting people on your social media, too, that are really good.
bert kreischer
You've always been that.
You've always been a little more socialist.
ari shaffir
Socialist, yeah.
That's a good way to put it.
bert kreischer
I told you this last night, but I try to implement that a little bit where you try to help put people over and stuff.
ari shaffir
Yeah, put them over.
bert kreischer
But then you start looking at it, and this sounds crazy, but then you get to a place where these guys that, like, you kind of tried to help.
I had a conversation with Tim Dillon.
I apologize, Tim, if I'm overstepping my boundaries.
But we were talking in my front yard, and he was saying, you know, you were one of the first guys to put me on a podcast, and I'll never forget it.
And I was out in L.A. And I was like, yeah, yeah.
And then you think, these guys you're trying to put over one day...
ari shaffir
Will be over.
bert kreischer
And now, like, Tim's a big get for me.
I can't announce it, but I have a big thing I'm doing with Tim.
And I was, like, really grateful that he did it.
ari shaffir
Pioneer contest?
bert kreischer
And then you think to yourself, like, it's crazy how quick that shifts, that paradigm of like, Chris DiStefano, great guy to get on the podcast like two years ago, and now you're like, hey man, you're in LA, can you do my podcast?
And you know, it's like these, Mark Norman, Shane, like these guys all kind of pop, Yanni, and like all these guys kind of pop.
Schultz!
I remember Schultz did Something's Burnham when I was in New York.
And I was like, we were talking, it was like, oh, it's good to have you on.
And then now he's like...
ari shaffir
He was so quick.
tom segura
He crushed it with that thing, too, with that special.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Just the YouTube, there were 5 million views in a week.
bert kreischer
It goes 100,000 a day.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
bert kreischer
I checked it today.
Yesterday I saw it and I went, oh, shit, 5.5 a week.
ari shaffir
Shots is another one.
I was like, I had like a...
Late to the game on clips, putting clips up, but I had a good riff on stage and we had a tape of it.
I was like, hey, is there a way?
I just wrote him.
He goes, yeah, yeah.
You need big lettering.
You need a big close-up of your face.
Actually, you know what?
Send me the clip.
I'll have my guy fix it up and send it back to you.
Yeah.
A lot of people are like, I don't know man, you figure it out.
tom segura
People who hoard information.
joe rogan
He came from New York to L.A. I remember when Schultz came to L.A. He's like, dude, the scene here is so different.
Everyone's so fucking supportive.
He came to the store.
He came to the store, and I gave him a big hug.
I go, what's up?
Nice to meet you, man.
And he's like, you want to do a spot?
I go, fuck yeah.
I did a spot on his show, and we were all hanging out.
And he's like, dude, everyone here is so fucking supportive and friendly.
It's so different than New York.
He's like, you guys are fucking doing it right, man.
And I think he just fucking ran with that.
ari shaffir
He brought that vibe to New York.
joe rogan
Yes!
That's the best vibe, man.
We're all in this together.
There's not that many of us.
ari shaffir
Yeah, there's not that many of us.
joe rogan
There's like a thousand of us on Earth.
Like, really legitimate comics.
unidentified
There's a thousand of us on Earth, on the planet.
joe rogan
And it's fucking hard to get there, man.
And if you can grab someone who's coming up and give them some words of encouragement and help them and take them on the road with you a little bit and give them some tips and boost them up a little and get them on your podcast, you're fucking doing a service, man.
tom segura
Bringing them on the road.
joe rogan
To all of us.
tom segura
Paying them.
ari shaffir
Especially, I think, probably we've all sort of forgotten, like...
The status you've gotten to a new young comic who watched you before they even did comedy.
Carlin would sit in the back of the room and when people got up, they're like, hey man, that was really funny.
He knew he was George Carlin giving you that compliment.
And it's tough to remember who now, what your name means, but a little bit of just like, hey, that was a really funny joke.
It goes a long way to a young comic.
bert kreischer
Do you remember the first comic that complimented any of my jokes?
The first compliment I got from a real comic was Jim Norton.
And I was like, I'm in.
ari shaffir
I'm in.
joe rogan
I'm in.
bert kreischer
I'm there.
ari shaffir
I'm there.
It gets you from quitting.
The in-between days where you're like, I don't know if I can do this.
joe rogan
For me, it was Marc Maron.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Marc Maron gave me a compliment when I was an open-miker.
Pulled me aside.
He goes, you're really funny, man.
You're really doing some good stuff, man.
Keep at it.
It's great.
Wow.
He was like, don't listen to anybody.
Just keep doing your shit.
I was like...
It was giant.
I was like a year in.
It was giant.
It made me feel so good.
Just a little compliment like that.
Louie and I were talking about that the other day.
Someone's saying that to you.
When you're coming up, it's so valuable.
Someone that thinks you're good.
I say that to every comic that I see that gets me to laugh.
I say, you've got the hardest part already.
You're funny.
Just keep doing it.
Just keep working, keep grinding, just keep fucking writing new shit and keep doing it.
You've already got the hardest part.
The hardest part is being funny.
Everything else is just work.
It's so hard.
Some people never figure out the funny thing, man.
They just don't get it.
It's like they can't grab it.
Almost they touch it, and it runs away from them.
They just can't get it.
And you'll see them ten years later, and they still can't get it.
tom segura
That's the sad one.
bert kreischer
I still don't get it.
At times, you ever had someone compliment a joke of yours that Isn't the funniest joke you have?
And then you're like, well, now I've got to figure out that fucking joke.
tom segura
And they find something in it that works.
bert kreischer
Louis did that to me when we were in Minneapolis.
He came into this spot.
We were in theaters next door.
I said, why don't you come over and just do a quick spot?
He said, you sure?
And I was like, yeah.
Thinking, I thought he was talking about the cancel shit.
It was because...
He's a fucking monster.
unidentified
Right.
bert kreischer
I gotta follow Louis C.K. I didn't realize that.
Shirt comes off, everyone's like, boo.
tom segura
Are you sure you want me to go in front of me?
unidentified
I literally was like, I was like, Louis, I don't care about cancel culture.
bert kreischer
And then I'm watching, I'm like, oh, I can't follow this.
And so he comes up and he goes, hey man, that deaf kid joke, fucking yes.
And I was like, out of all the things?
I was like, that's the one I don't...
unidentified
That's not...
bert kreischer
So now I've been fucking toiling with this one goddamn joke that he saw something in that I'm like, I guess there's some umami inside this joke that I can't find.
joe rogan
This is a Bryan Simpson joke.
I don't want to give up the joke because I would give up the premise.
It's too much.
But he's got this one joke.
The premise is so strong.
My God, dude, there's something there.
He goes, I know!
What is it?
What is it?
I go, I don't know, dude, but I laugh so hard just at the premise.
tom segura
He's so funny.
joe rogan
He's so good.
He writes so much.
He's so disciplined.
He writes every day.
He always has new shit.
Oh, and it's so tight.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's really funny.
joe rogan
He's one of those guys.
There's this crop of upcoming guys, man, that are so strong.
And they're embracing stand-up.
And I think it's because of the guys that have already made it, that are really enthusiastic.
tom segura
About them, too.
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
Because everybody's excited about Brian.
He's the real deal.
joe rogan
He's the real deal.
bert kreischer
And he thinks differently.
He thinks differently.
joe rogan
He thinks like a man.
bert kreischer
And talks to you in analogies that I never fucking thought of.
Where you're like, oh shit, I didn't see it that way.
He's like, that's what life is.
And you're like...
tom segura
His perspective is totally unique.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's so fucking valuable, man.
ari shaffir
I just remember right now, Tom, when you brought me to Crackers.
tom segura
Oh yeah!
ari shaffir
And it's probably, at the time for you, a $1,200 to $1,500 gig.
And you're like, it's break-even, Ari.
I couldn't get a headline gig anywhere except La Jolla.
And you're like, come break-even, but it'll get in the club.
And yeah, I did.
It was a big fucking thing for me.
tom segura
Yeah, that was cool.
unidentified
Dude, I took you on the road when you were a doorman.
ari shaffir
That's a hard D used.
bert kreischer
Doorman.
joe rogan
You were a doorman.
ari shaffir
You were.
joe rogan
You were, like, just starting out, man.
ari shaffir
That was actually, getting back from those first six months, all my friends were like, dude, you made a jump.
And it was like, yeah, playing 300 seaters.
Like, good crowds.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
Yeah, dude.
tom segura
Well, you actually called.
Like, a lot of people would be like, hey, man, you're funny.
And they'd be like, give me your number.
Like, you know.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, how he found you.
tom segura
Right, but those people just never call.
I remember one time I called an agent.
I was like, hey, your client said that they wanted to take me on tour.
And they were like, okay.
And then I followed up and they were like, yeah, they don't want to do that.
unidentified
I was like, oh, okay.
joe rogan
Well, we worked with like 20 different comics on that Charlie Murphy tour.
And you were the one I worked with in Phoenix.
And you went up in Phoenix and I think you did like three minutes.
tom segura
Yeah, three minutes.
joe rogan
What?
Killed.
And then I remember pulling you aside and going, dude, you're fucking good.
tom segura
Yeah, but I still was, he was like, you know, give me your number.
I was like, okay.
ari shaffir
Sure.
tom segura
I didn't think anything of it.
ari shaffir
Because so much smoke.
I saw Mooney, he got off stage with some guy from HBO. I was like, Paul, I haven't seen you in a while.
I was like, uh-huh, you haven't.
And he goes, well, I just didn't stop.
He goes, we'd love to do something again.
He goes, I bet you would.
And he goes, give me your number.
Do you have a pen?
I don't have a pen.
I goes, no, I don't, motherfucker.
Do you?
Because he had just been like, I've had smoke blood on my ass for decades.
joe rogan
He was Richard Pryor's writer.
He wrote with Richard Pryor.
Paul Mooney's a legend.
tom segura
He's a legend.
joe rogan
He was one of the ones that really bummed me out when he died because I had an opportunity to see him one night at the store and I decided to go do something else.
I remember someone said, Mooney's going to do a set at the store.
And I hadn't seen him in years.
And I know he had been in New York for a while.
And then he was doing a set at the store.
I don't remember what I had to do.
ari shaffir
It was sad at the end.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I still wish I said hi and gave him a hug.
bert kreischer
It always is.
ari shaffir
It's just like he was...
Whatever the disease was, it wasn't...
He still had some killer bits, but it made you sad.
joe rogan
Yeah, but...
ari shaffir
You saw a man, like, dying.
joe rogan
But there's those things that, like, he was one of those guys.
Like, I told you that was...
Him telling me I was funny was just, like, giant to me.
It's like there's guys that just don't impress easily.
When those guys come up to you and say something to you, it's fucking big.
bert kreischer
I remember, this is going to sound so stupid, Patrice did it for me on Twitter one time.
What?
I fucking birthed Conker or whatever, and I was in a hotel room in San Antonio, and he just put out a tweet saying, hey, congrats to my buddy, or whatever.
I don't know.
I'm not going to paraphrase.
I know I'm going to fluff it up.
But it's great to see Burt Kreischer succeeding.
He's been an OG or whatever in the business.
And I remember my cameraman, Scott Sands, was like, dude, because he knew how much Patrice meant to me.
He's like, Patrice, did you see what he just tweeted?
And I read it, and I shut my door, and I fucking cried.
I was like, dude, he was the fucking, I mean, he was like...
joe rogan
He was a special voice, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, real.
joe rogan
Very, very special.
He's a guy that I think if he was alive today, he'd have the biggest podcast.
I would be number two.
He would be number one.
unidentified
Patrice?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Let's be very fair.
ari shaffir
No, he wouldn't.
bert kreischer
He would not have the biggest podcast.
You'd have a hard time listening to it.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
bert kreischer
He was great on ONA. He was great on ONA, but he did have a podcast, and it was tough to listen to.
unidentified
He did?
bert kreischer
Oh yeah, he had the Dr. Phillips podcast.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, Black Phillip.
bert kreischer
Black Phillip.
ari shaffir
He had out there theories.
bert kreischer
And if you allow Patrice to, if you allow Patrice one mic with no pushback, sometimes it could go into some places where you're like, I don't feel like that totally.
I'm just being fair.
I love, you know, I love the guy to death.
ari shaffir
He had the capacity to say, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you have to find your voice in a podcast.
bert kreischer
You have to figure out how to do it.
joe rogan
We all had to figure out how to do it right.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but Patrice would have been great on this podcast.
He would have been amazing on this podcast.
joe rogan
Oh, he would have been amazing on this podcast.
bert kreischer
Patrice was a genius at like...
Having an idea and putting it your way and then letting you kind of go and then just slamming it and going this, this, this.
He was so brilliant, but trust me, I listened to a lot of his podcasts and it was...
ari shaffir
It was early days.
tom segura
I remember I got a compliment from Attell in 05 and I was like, oh my god.
That could not have been a bigger compliment.
And then the next year, 06, he came through.
ari shaffir
I love this.
tom segura
And he was like, he requested me.
I got a call.
They're like, he requested you.
And I was like, oh my god.
And then after one of the shows, he was like, you don't have a new 20 minutes?
And I was like, what?
And he's like, what, do you want to be like an actor or something?
And I was like...
Like it went from the highest high to like, oh shit.
ari shaffir
But also good tough love.
tom segura
Oh, of course it was.
It was great.
It was super good.
joe rogan
He does tough love to himself.
I had him in here the other day.
tom segura
The toughest love to himself.
joe rogan
He's so self-deprecating and so humble.
It's like, dude, you're one of the greatest of all time.
ari shaffir
He is the best, I mean, I'm not saying this lightly, the best comic in the world.
bert kreischer
He is the best comic in the world.
ari shaffir
He's consistently every night.
joe rogan
Certainly up there.
He's certainly up there with the greats of all time.
bert kreischer
We did Rochester, and it was, you know, in the...
There's a whole city behind you.
No comic thought to use the city landscape as tags for jokes.
And Attell went up and he said, you know the kind of guy that goes to Monroe Community College?
And we turn around and there's a huge sign that the audience sees right above.
Oh, if you don't like that joke, just pray to the glowing cross up on the mountain.
And there's a cross up there.
I mean, he just worked so seamlessly, worked the city landscape into his bit.
tom segura
Dude, he did sit stuff that weekend, I still haven't seen people do, which is like, we were doing like six show weekends at Brea, and Thursday, he would do, you know, his set, and there'd be like this joke, whatever, 20 minutes in, that kills, and then Friday early show, there'd be a different punchline that would do worse, So Friday Late Show, I would listen, and it would be that joke again.
He didn't do the Thursday night one that killed it.
He tried yet another one.
Yeah, and I was like, what the fuck?
And he was doing this throughout his set all the time.
He was never satisfied, even if it was doing well.
ari shaffir
He's always tweaking the exact words.
bert kreischer
And then he was recording them.
ari shaffir
Exact words.
tom segura
I'd never seen somebody switch out the jokes.
joe rogan
He just doesn't self-promote at all.
No.
ari shaffir
He also has a joke structure that's different than everybody, where we'll do tag, tag, tag, right?
And then the next level is tag, tag, up, up, like change the game on the third tag.
He does tag, change the game slightly, and then go ridiculous on the third.
In a way that you gotta get the audience along with you for that, and he does it.
joe rogan
He's a master, and he's one of those guys that quit drinking and actually got better.
bert kreischer
Everyone quits drinking and gets better.
joe rogan
You too?
bert kreischer
I'm such a better comic when I don't drink.
I don't drink on stage, but the laziness of the drinking in between, lack of motivation, lack of looking at my sets, lack of focus, it shows up and it rears its head.
I think it's fun to get drunk on stage every now and then and fuck your act up and try to figure it out in the moment or get high and do that.
But for the most part, I have to do stand-up sober.
ari shaffir
I have to dial in.
There's weaknesses.
I was going back from Jackson getting ready for my special, and I was like, I'll get high on the road home with Adrian.
And then I was like, no, I know what else is going to happen if I get high.
I'll go home and watch TV. And if I don't get high, I'll go work on some of those taglines.
joe rogan
Damn, that's the opposite with me.
When I get home from a gig, I spark up a joint and sit in front of the computer.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
That's my favorite time to write.
Like, right after I get off stage, because I'm fresh.
I just got off stage, and I have these ideas in my head, and everyone's asleep in my house.
So I just fucking open up the patio door, spark one up, and I get nervous and crazy and fucking paranoid, and then I run up in front of the computer and start writing.
ari shaffir
That's a good habit.
bert kreischer
You have a different motivation than other people.
You probably go on stage as a millionaire more than any millionaire in the world.
ari shaffir
Yep.
bert kreischer
There's not a lot of millionaires doing what you do.
joe rogan
You gotta work out, man.
You gotta do what got you to the dance.
I'd never stop.
You have to.
You have to do clubs.
I do little shitty shows.
I do everything.
bert kreischer
When I landed, I texted.
I was like, I'm going to bed.
And then you were like, do a spot.
And I was like, I can't not do a spot.
I can write it off and go...
joe rogan
We shamed you.
I was texting with you when I was talking to Ari.
I was like, fuck, Bert's going to sleep.
No way.
Fuck that.
bert kreischer
Emily will shame me.
She'll be like, hey, I won't call him for my avails at the store if I'm home.
And she'll just be like...
We have availability on Tuesday, and then as soon as I get that I go, I have to do it.
I have to do it.
joe rogan
You have to.
It's like, you gotta put in the work, man.
It's like there's no substitute for stage time.
There's no substitute for sets.
Like when you get in shape, one of the things that I realize when I do like a long tour, I really realized that for the first time when I did the Charlie Murphy tour, because we did 22 dates in a month.
So we were constantly on the road, and god damn, and I was talking to Red Band about this.
He's like, dude, there's something that happened to you, like around the 10th show.
You just got into this zone where you just, and you're in that right now because you're killing it.
tom segura
We did like 24 shows last month, something like that.
ari shaffir
Now you're just like, you know it.
tom segura
There's no substitute for that.
I can do shit with this set right now where I can rearrange the whole order and then play the game in my head of figuring out what I haven't done yet.
ari shaffir
Right.
Taking all the fight while you're killing with a bit going, what should I do next?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of fun to do.
bert kreischer
Have you switched your opener up?
tom segura
All the time.
And closer.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, Louis said to do that.
He said, develop a closing bit and then put it in the first part of your act.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he goes, and then you have to follow it.
And he goes, and so Louis developed a whole hour in three months.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he said he just developed 20 minutes, and then when he got that 20 minutes, he threw it away.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, okay, that works now.
tom segura
He's so disciplined in doing this.
People say, you know, they'll...
Because the hardest thing to do is go to the Vulcan or the store.
It's a hot crowd.
And to not go like, I'm going to go up there.
ari shaffir
I just want to do well.
tom segura
And he will deal with not doing well to figure out stuff, to do work.
joe rogan
It's the only way.
ari shaffir
He knows the path of it.
tom segura
He knows, yeah.
joe rogan
It's the only way.
tom segura
It's fucking hard to do.
joe rogan
Is there a moment when you start a bit that you know is not that good yet?
It's like, I was killing last night and I threw this bit up there.
I'm like, I know this is not right.
bert kreischer
I saw it.
I saw it.
I saw it go like this.
I heard it.
And then it's just a...
joe rogan
It's like, this is going to be something someday.
But right now, it's just like, bear with me.
There's something to this.
It's got a beginning and it doesn't have an end.
tom segura
Because you're all in writing mode right now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have 11 new minutes.
ari shaffir
That's exciting, though.
bert kreischer
You did an hour of change last night.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did an hour 20. But I have 11 of it that's new.
And then five more that I'm scared to try.
It's just like I know it's like it eats shit.
ari shaffir
And you're like, do I think I should eat it right now?
joe rogan
You know what I gotta do is a smaller place where it's not like a bunch of murderers.
Because last night was like Murderer's Row.
Everyone was just killing them.
ari shaffir
That's a pop of the store now.
I say you can't go in between Fitzsimmons and Rogan and just bring out a notebook.
joe rogan
You can, but...
ari shaffir
It's just like not the best environment for it.
joe rogan
Dude, nobody turns over an hour like Chappelle.
bert kreischer
I have to see him live.
I have to see him live.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
We did this show in Columbus.
ari shaffir
You've never seen Chappelle live?
bert kreischer
Saw him do some spots in Boston Comedy Club when I was a kid, but I've never seen him do live since I've been a comedian.
joe rogan
We did an arena two weeks ago in Columbus, and I was in Ohio, that's where he lives, a couple hours from his house.
He drove, and he got there four minutes before he went on stage.
tom segura
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I wasn't sure if he was going to go up, so I told Tony, I go, you might be bringing me up, you might be bringing Dave up.
And so Dave shows up, he rolls in, he's like, ah, sunglasses on, and he goes on stage.
You want to see something crazy?
This is the audience not knowing that he's going to be there.
And then I walked with him to the stage and shined a light to Tony.
This is a fucking sold-out arena.
And play this, because this is...
I got blue scars.
The audience doesn't know that he's there yet.
So now they see him.
Look at this.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Dude, it is a one minute standing ovation.
ari shaffir
That's OSU's arena?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Look at this.
unidentified
I am losing their fucking minds.
tom segura
That's wild.
joe rogan
Me and Tony sat in the tunnel before you go on stage just watching this.
It was like, this is magic, man.
This is like the Beatles.
unidentified
That's incredible.
tom segura
That's incredible.
How long did he do?
joe rogan
40 minutes?
30 minutes?
Something like that?
It was fucking incredible.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
He crushed.
But it wasn't just that.
It was the moment.
Because he's an Ohio guy, right?
So he's in Ohio.
And he's their own.
And he's the GOAT. And he gets on stage and they went fucking crazy.
tom segura
That's rad.
bert kreischer
He's brought a little bit back of that 1970s Elvis, Richard Pryor movie star.
That cool you can't manufacture.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's really him, too.
tom segura
He's such a good guy.
joe rogan
He's such a good guy, too.
He's such a fucking good person.
ari shaffir
He has a comedian's ball every year, besides pandemic.
He just has a...
He rents out a place.
Every comedian in New York is invited.
And he has someone at the door who knows all the comedians in New York.
High level, low level.
Open bar.
Come have a great time on Dave.
joe rogan
And what does he do?
Does he do a show?
ari shaffir
No.
tom segura
Just hangs out?
ari shaffir
He gets up.
He says...
He said like two minutes of words, whatever.
He puts on...
He used to have at the box.
So it was all these like weird like burlesque performers and stuff.
He just has an event.
He goes talk to each other.
Talk about comedy.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
You guys are all the future.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
Enjoy.
He threw this after party in New York that I went to after we did the...
ari shaffir
Radio City?
tom segura
No, we did The Garden.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
tom segura
And he did...
They're like, oh, he's having a party at this thing, and the parties are so much better than...
joe rogan
He had a movie!
Remember Dave Spell's Block Party?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I went to see that in a movie theater.
tom segura
They were wild.
joe rogan
That's fucking incredible.
tom segura
And he makes that announcement.
He gets on the mic.
There's a DJ there.
There's celebrities, but there's just regular people.
He's just like, put your phones away.
When he says something like, we don't take pictures, we make memories.
Stop taking pictures.
ari shaffir
He's so cool.
tom segura
Everybody just hangs out.
joe rogan
It's a great time for comedy.
ari shaffir
He also, what you're saying, looking at it from the audience's point of view, he puts on a show.
I went to see Free Ticket, Live Nation friend Chris Burns was like, we want to go see his movie at Madison Square Garden.
I was like, okay.
But I know the tickets were like $100.
I'm like, to see a movie?
No.
Jeff Ross, Ronnie Chang, Jabberwockies, the movie, who's the guy who sings, Woo Ha, what's his name?
unidentified
Buster Ryan.
ari shaffir
Busta Rhymes, Fat Joe, Jon Stewart.
tom segura
All performed?
ari shaffir
Him, Jon Stewart and him together.
It's like, oh, right.
That's a bargain show.
bert kreischer
But that's the thing.
Look, if you're performing, that's where Chappelle's killing it.
I don't think anyone goes to see a Dave Chappelle show and doesn't talk about it for a month.
ari shaffir
Have such a good time.
bert kreischer
I mean, it's like, you know, especially the shows you two were doing when you guys did the Tacoma Dome for 33,000 people.
25. I would have just let me go with it.
unidentified
Don't lie.
joe rogan
We broke the attendance record.
bert kreischer
So the 33 breaks at 2. Just let it go.
joe rogan
No.
25 is crazy enough.
bert kreischer
I don't think he's looking at it as just what he does, but that's where his head is.
That block party was so next level.
tom segura
You guys broke it in New Orleans, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, we broke the attendance record there, too.
tom segura
It was pretty nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah, we've had some wild shows.
Me and him together are really fun, man.
It's like, they're events, man.
There's something special about it.
tom segura
Hey, Jamie, that's a great hat.
I'm sorry I didn't acknowledge it.
ari shaffir
Me and Jay.
tom segura
I gotta run, though.
I gotta go to the airport.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's 12. I have to go to the airport.
All right.
All right, boys.
bert kreischer
Wait, wait, wait.
ari shaffir
I'll be in Philadelphia, Portland, Tampa, Salt Lake City, and Dallas coming up.
joe rogan
What'd you want to say?
bert kreischer
You guys tonight.
I'm worried about you guys tonight.
joe rogan
You're worried.
bert kreischer
You're going to Roger Waters.
tom segura
He's worried that you guys are going to fall off.
bert kreischer
No, but here's the deal.
ari shaffir
One small piece of paper.
One very small piece of paper.
bert kreischer
All I need, all I need, all we need is 100% transparency.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah.
bert kreischer
If something happens, it happens.
I'm going pretty, I'm going clean this month.
But if you guys smoke marijuana, I will not hold it against you.
I don't want you to think your month's over.
joe rogan
Are you giving us a free pass?
bert kreischer
I will tell you this.
I'll tell you this much.
If you invited me and I went tonight, I would definitely smoke weed.
I would, without a doubt.
joe rogan
You want to go tonight?
bert kreischer
I got a fucking show in Youngstown.
tom segura
I would go tonight too if I weren't flying out.
bert kreischer
I'd love to go see you.
So all I'm saying is marijuana's not alcohol.
It's not.
And you're going to see Pink Floyd.
ari shaffir
We only put marijuana in just to fuck with Joe that first year.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
I think Joe needs to address his addiction.
Pray for Joe.
joe rogan
I already addressed it.
tom segura
I think you should be allowed to do an edible.
bert kreischer
Something acid, edible, mushrooms.
Mushrooms, acid, I don't count as sobriety at all.
joe rogan
Interesting.
bert kreischer
I've never counted mushrooms.
I mean, neither has...
I think AA totally looks past those.
joe rogan
Well, AA was founded by a guy who did acid.
bert kreischer
That's why you quit doing alcohols by acid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I'm never doing acid or mushrooms.
That's not in my wheelhouse.
I'm probably not.
joe rogan
Never?
bert kreischer
Never?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why?
ari shaffir
What?
bert kreischer
I just don't, it's not where I want to be.
ari shaffir
Come at me, Joe.
joe rogan
What do you mean where you want to be?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
I don't have that brain.
joe rogan
We're like, what the fuck?
ari shaffir
Clear?
tom segura
I did it a few weeks ago.
bert kreischer
What?
Acid?
tom segura
Acid.
I did ayahuasca.
unidentified
What?
tom segura
I swear to God.
bert kreischer
Shut up.
tom segura
I swear.
ari shaffir
Acid and ayahuasca a few weeks ago?
tom segura
No, not acid.
I did mushrooms, ayahuasca.
bert kreischer
Wait.
ari shaffir
What?
tom segura
Yeah, I did it.
bert kreischer
What the fuck are you talking about?
tom segura
That's what I did.
bert kreischer
Are you lying right now?
tom segura
I swear to God.
joe rogan
When did you do ayahuasca?
tom segura
It was here.
I did it with a private shaman.
joe rogan
How was it?
tom segura
It was amazing.
bert kreischer
This is a bit.
unidentified
Not a bit.
bert kreischer
Not a bit.
joe rogan
How long did it last?
tom segura
I took it around 4.30 p.m.
and I was tripping balls until like 2.30 in the morning.
bert kreischer
Wow.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where'd you do it?
tom segura
I got a suite at a place, like a private place.
bert kreischer
Wait, why did you do it?
tom segura
Because I just thought I heard great things about it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, no one has a bad time.
bert kreischer
How do you bring this up at the end of a goddamn podcast?
tom segura
Well, because you just said that you were going to be gay and I didn't want you to be.
unidentified
Hold on.
tom segura
I'll set it up for you.
bert kreischer
No fucking way.
Last thing I want to see is a snake eat me.
ari shaffir
No, it's not like that.
tom segura
It was peaceful, no panic, no anxiety, no paranoia.
ari shaffir
You feel clean?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
Did you see anything that you want to talk about?
tom segura
No, I mean, I did go for a walk at like 1.30 in the morning on these private grounds, and I thought I saw a fox on this path, and I was like...
ari shaffir
That's a spirit animal.
tom segura
Well, no, it was a cat, a wild cat, but I didn't know, I couldn't make out what it was, and it froze me for a second, but it was real.
joe rogan
What do you think your spirit animal is?
tom segura
I think it has to be a bear.
bert kreischer
Mine's a bear, and if you want to get merch, go to YMHstudios.com.
Hey, hold on.
I know you have to leave, but wait, hold on.
So wait, did Push do it?
tom segura
No, just me.
bert kreischer
You just did it by yourself?
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Dude, you are a fucking psycho.
joe rogan
That's great, man.
Bring me next time.
tom segura
I want to talk to you about it.
joe rogan
Let's go.
tom segura
I'll set it up.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
tom segura
We could do it as like a group even.
joe rogan
Let's fucking go.
bert kreischer
Let's fucking not.
tom segura
I'm in Oklahoma City.
joe rogan
Okay, you don't have to, Bert.
ari shaffir
I think we should.
joe rogan
You should put the Kool-Aid aside for a night.
tom segura
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I want to talk to you about it.
tom segura
It's amazing.
Okay.
joe rogan
Ari, what's your spirit animal?
ari shaffir
The shaman I had was throwing this waxy stuff into the fire and you'll see shapes and stuff and every once in a while I'll throw more in there and I saw a fucking weird poodle.
Maybe it's that.
bert kreischer
Or an aardvark.
ari shaffir
Maybe an aardvark because of my nose.
tom segura
Ari the poodle.
ari shaffir
I don't know, but I don't know what spirit animal is.
tom segura
What's your animal?
ari shaffir
Yeah, what's yours?
bert kreischer
It's gotta be a wolf.
ari shaffir
Chipmunk.
joe rogan
I think it's probably a wolf.
ari shaffir
Surprising.
bert kreischer
Gorilla.
tom segura
Wild chimp.
joe rogan
I had a dream once where I was a wolf.
I had a dream when I could smell rain.
It was me and some other animals, and we were closing in on a deer, and we could smell rain.
I remember smelling things.
There's no way you could smell it.
And then I woke up, because I realized that I was doing it.
I was like, what the fuck is this?
It was too real.
But it was like in a rain forest.
And I could smell things that I just could not...
There's no way you could smell it.
I could smell fear.
We were looking at this animal and we're communicating telepathically, me and these other animals.
I think it was a wolf.
But I remember smelling rain.
tom segura
Damn.
joe rogan
I could smell the rain.
I could smell fear.
I could smell this animal's anxiety as it's moving slowly through the bushes, like trying to avoid predators.
And I was like, this is too real.
And I woke up.
tom segura
Wow.
I promise you'd like this experience.
bert kreischer
I will not.
And we will be talking about this next week on Two Bears One Cave.
ari shaffir
You can't drink for eight days after this.
bert kreischer
Do not talk to anyone else about this.
Do you understand me?
ari shaffir
Fucks it up.
Still working in your system.
joe rogan
Really?
Fucks what up?
ari shaffir
Fucks up the effects.
And the guy told me, he was like, don't fuck with it.
No sex, no alcohol.
You're going to say I'm fine.
Don't fuck with it.
bert kreischer
This is how well I know Tom.
He's been antsy about leaving for the last 20 minutes because I've been watching you do your little knee thing where you're like...
joe rogan
We've got a show.
We've got things to do.
Boys, I love you.
tom segura
Love you guys.
joe rogan
Love you very much.
bert kreischer
Have a good time tonight.
joe rogan
We're going to have a good time tonight.
tom segura
Have fun.
Eat an edible.
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