Tim Dillon and Joe Rogan dissect Hollywood’s hypocrisy—celebrities like Alec Baldwin face scrutiny for gun use while promoting censorship—while questioning 9/11’s official narrative, citing missing Pentagon footage and Trump’s alleged classified document mishandling. They critique U.S. foreign policy, echoing Roger Waters’ claims that interventions like Ukraine violate international norms, and debate systemic failures: harsh DUI punishments, IRS complexity, and corporate propaganda via fake social media accounts. Skeptical of future pandemics sparking change, they warn democracy risks collapse into oligarchy or dystopian tech control, from CRISPR-enhanced babies to brain chips, leaving Austin as a darkly humorous "refuge" if civilization unravels. [Automatically generated summary]
No, they don't want any comedy there or any tourism.
They've actually, there's very few hotels and the hotels are three or four thousand a night and they're not anything great, but what they want is to keep people out.
There's one road in and one road out.
They've done a great job of keeping regular human beings out with their fat, disgusting families.
They've kept them out, and they've done a great job.
All the while, tweeting about, no human is illegal.
Most people there, I go out and we drive around and stuff and see stuff, but a lot of those people don't leave their home.
So for the entire summer, they pretty much, maybe they go to one or two restaurants, they stay in their home, and then they have like a private beach that is like behind their house.
Yeah, you have Seinfeld out there, Stern, Alec Baldwin, my friend, who's there to relax.
Well, these are also the same people that live in these 20,000 square foot homes and fly private jets, but talk endlessly about climate change.
The same people.
So it's like, to really...
And I get it.
I get it.
Because if they start paying you the kind of money they make to play pretend, They start paying you that kind of money to play dress up.
80 million a year, 40 million a year.
You start to go crazy.
And when you develop this cognitive dissonance where you see yourself as something completely different than what other people see and your behavior as something that's completely different.
So they don't view that as hypocrisy.
They view it as like, yeah, guns are bad, but we can make them good.
You know, we've talked about this before on this show.
I mean, actors and actresses, for the most part, have never met themselves.
They don't know who they are.
If they did, they'd probably not be that good at their job, which is, like, every dumb role that I get that I audition for, I've booked none, by the way, because I'm still just me.
Yeah, if you put me in a thing, it's like, oh, Tim Dillon is the thing.
Even if I pretend to be Meghan McCain, people go, that's Tim Dillon.
Like, it's not...
None of my imitations are the person.
Rachel Levine.
Rachel Levine, whoever it is.
Some people went, that's Rachel.
But...
It's one of those things where the actors I know that I'm friends with are usually good-looking, but they're not distinct-looking, and they can fit easily into any of these characters.
And they don't really know who they are.
So if somebody tells them, like, six-year-olds should get gender reassignment surgery, they go, okay.
So you're always saying the things that you think people want to hear, and you're always espousing the correct political philosophies and positions on things.
Because your whole gig is trying to get people to choose you for something.
Because you can't have an actor on set going, well, I actually think it would be a nightmare.
And every suggestion that most actors have is bad because they're stupid.
So you need them to be exactly kind of what they are.
It would just be nice if we could just turn down the volume on the politics and everything else and just kind of let them do what they're good for, which is to pretend to be other people.
So you need that.
You don't want to see me.
You don't want to have the gray man with me.
You want Ethan Hawke.
You don't want, what's the thing on Stranger Things?
I can't play all of the kids on Stranger Things.
It would be odd.
People wouldn't like it.
You can't do like a young adult Twilight with me in it.
So they need to exist, but they just can't talk about, you know, espionage or whatever they're talking about.
Don't you think that more people are aware of that now than ever?
And one of the things that's like the Johnny Depp trial or Alex Baldwin getting in trouble, we're realizing more and more that these people are insane.
In New York, there in the early 90s, a rockette was stabbed in the back in Central Park, one of the people who does the Radio City Christmas show.
And it was on the cover of the New York Post and the Times, all these places.
And it was this watershed moment where people in New York City were like, fuck.
We have a problem.
This is a...
It was a horrifying image, very visceral image of the criminal element that was running the city.
People were getting stabbed and shot and murdered, junkies everywhere.
And then people...
And that was what led to Giuliani.
And then Giuliani really did clean up New York.
You know, he's lost his mind a little bit now, but he absolutely cleaned up New York.
And he stopped people from loitering and doing all these things.
People do not want to hear that.
It wasn't only Giuliani.
Other things happened.
Disney kind of came in to Times Square.
There was a lot of corporate pressure as well to make things safe.
But you don't have a figure like that in California.
Rick Caruso potentially.
I mean, he's running.
But the problem is you have an L.A. City Council where they're crazy and they can kind of stop what the mayor from doing.
And, you know, you need to outlaw camping.
You need to outlaw it.
You need to figure out another way.
You cannot if people live on the street.
You have to figure out a way to house these people.
And it's very difficult.
The problem with California is New York is smaller and people's decisions affect other people's lives more.
And California, Pasadena has nothing to do with Manhattan Beach, which has nothing to do with Thousand Oaks, which has nothing to do with West Hollywood.
So everybody's kind of in their own little spot.
And if they're not immediately affected by it, they just go, huh?
So New York, you do have that idea of this is an organism.
It's a city.
We're all on the subway.
We're all affected.
So people, I think, are more likely to invest themselves in having certain outcomes in New York.
And I think people, you know, we're not as coarsened as they are now with the idea that people become very cynical now, which I get.
I'm one of them.
And they tend to look at all political solutions as inherently fallible, that they won't work because politicians have proven again and again to fail all the time.
And you just end up being very cynical about it.
And even, you know, guys that have good ideas and say the right things, you go, yeah, but you're a politician.
But your nature as a human being is to tell me something I would like to hear.
And then we see the big...
Even Trump, you know, who came in and said, I want to do this, that, and the other thing.
There are all of these forces that keep Trump from doing these things, whether you agree with them or not.
You can't just wave a wand and make things happen.
There's this corrupt system that has gone on forever and...
The answer to that is, who knows?
You don't want to put a dictator in.
You don't want a guy with absolute power.
But you also look at the system we have now as this weird...
You know, closed doors, behind the scenes, where everybody's out for themself.
And you go, how do you get anything done?
How does anything get done?
When we have congresspeople engaging in insider trading or out there- Wait, wait, wait, wait.
That's amazing that he would blow five million at a loss.
Wow.
Wow, he sold millions worth of stocks in chipmaker NVIDIA at a loss the day before the Senate passed a multi-billion dollar bill aimed in part at boosting US chip manufacturing that sent NVIDIA shares surging, a decision Pelosi's office said was to avoid further misinformation about the couple's investments.
Oh my god, that is amazing.
What kind of fucking misinformation would it be when we actually have the information?
It's like, how do you, when a country has reached this point where these are the actors, and they're bad actors, and we know that, and this is only what we know about, you know?
The next inevitable step, which again, I don't think is good, is a dictatorship.
It's somebody who comes in and executes all these people and goes, I'm now the...
Which is not good, but that does seem to be the next inevitable step.
And then the people on the far left, I think, are also waking up because they are starting to realize that journalists like Chris Hedges, who was a war correspondent, who's a socialist writer and a brilliant writer, a lot of his stuff was taken off because it happened to be on RT. They took all Chris Hedges' show On Contact.
They had all of these hours and hours of him conducting interviews with people.
What if Spotify came to you, and instead of $100 million, they said, don't you like it?
Don't you want to come over because you like it?
It's like, no.
Get the fucking checkbook out, you cheap fucks.
What are we talking about?
We're wasting our goddamn time.
And yeah, I like Substack, and good for them.
But yeah, I don't know.
I mean, we're all, every day I go, I try to make good moves with money because I go, you know, we're all living at the whims of an algorithm we don't understand.
And we have no idea who the fuck these people are.
Because, you know, everybody's blue-haired, non-binary, talking about piss orgies, and that's like, it's the cover of Newsweek, so you have to be like a Catholic, Opus Dei, you know, like, saying the rosary to be a fucking problem now.
Like, you used to be able to just dye your hair and get a tattoo and a nose ring.
Now that's like, oh, what are you running for Congress?
So now the other side of it is a lot of people are kind of going, which is there's elements of that that are good, and there's elements of that that are not great, probably.
But, you know, that's what young kids are doing now, because they're like, fuck this shit.
They're like, we...
They've realized how empty...
This current world is that we've created, spiritually, for people.
It's about money and profit and everything has no history or tradition.
Everything's so disorienting.
Things happen so quickly that the pace of change is like making people go, what the fuck?
And people need to situate themselves in the universe and they don't know how to do it.
And they're going, dude, this rock is spinning and I don't know what's going on.
Every day there's a new edict about what you can say, what's real and what's not, and people are going back to things that root them, and one of them is religion.
I think religion has a lot of positives.
I mean, there's some negatives, but I think religion has positives, for sure.
You need something to ground you, make you humble, make you realize that you are living for a finite amount of time on earth.
You should treat people with respect.
A code is good to have a moral code.
I'm not saying what yours should be or not, but just the constant stuffing money down your throat, having tons of meaningless sex, constantly obsessing over material things, these are probably...
So if you're in my little podcast world, you're in that.
If you watch SNL, it's a different world.
We're on a different planet.
If you watch SNL every week...
Like, like, put it on and go, eh!
Like, if you're, then we're on a date, you don't know, you don't know who I am.
And you would hate me if you knew about me, but you don't even know who I am.
So everybody's kind of doing their own thing.
And if you listen to me every week, or if you watch me and Christine and Tom on the live stream, watch people like crush penises with stilettos or whatever those sick fucks are watching.
Every other thing that probably tried to do something like this or back in the day, you didn't have funny people that were like, they're able to actually put it in the context of a show, and it's great.
The first couple of videos you watch, you try to go like, I'm gonna be tough.
And then like you get to a point where it's like your body has these reactions independent of your mind Yeah, like your stomach starts you start to feel something you go oh In my stomach.
Like, they played a video last night of a woman's stiletto heel, like, crushing a guy's penis through a hole in the floor.
And it was really tough.
There's still a week and a half to watch it, yeah.
You know, six weeks is a ban, because if you miss your period and it's only two weeks later than that, and now you can't get an abortion, it's basically banned.
Traveling outside of America is just a lot of things we could learn from other countries where we don't have to be insane all the time about everything.
Everything doesn't have to be this incredibly polarizing issue.
There can be things where it goes, yeah, I think Germany and England, they have a law where it's like, yeah, within a certain amount of time, you can have an abortion.
You know, we talked about this thing on the podcast the other day where there was an article that was talking about how people got arrested for an abortion because of Facebook messages.
I'm not sure what state, but when people wrote the article, the article was, people are getting arrested for an abortion because of Facebook messages.
You know, like, oh my god, this is Big Brother.
But then you look at the actual story, and it's way more horrific.
It's like, you know, I mean, it was six months into the pregnancy, she takes these pills, it's stillborn, has the abortion, then buries the baby, and apparently burned it.
Yeah, so that to me seems crazy, and I feel like...
To most people that seems crazy.
I don't think anybody, this is the thing, it's like the vast majority of people that aren't on Twitter and that aren't participating, that are not making money off being inflammatory or whatever, they have, like if you go to people and you go, hey, should somebody have an abortion at six months?
They go, no.
They go no.
If you go to them and go, hey, should somebody who's six years old be able to permanently alter their gender?
They go, no.
This is the vast majority.
The issue we have is that none of those people have any representation.
They don't continue to plague them, but it does require a degree of rational, you know, compromise where, you know, America's an amazing place when you leave it for a little bit and you realize how dysfunctional it is, how big it is, how large, how amazingly massive and vast it is, and how hard it is to get anyone on the same page about anything.
Because people in Louisiana, we're just talking about LA. There's people in, you know, the Hollywood Hills and people in fucking downtown LA have nothing to do with each other.
Well now imagine people in the backwoods of like Louisiana and the forest of Portland, Oregon.
I mean, this is such a massive country.
So many people to get on the same page about anything.
So you're gonna have these states that are gonna have fights and then they're gonna make laws and there's certain people move here and certain people move there, but it It's such a boring way to live, to me, to be constantly Uprooting yourself because of political reasons, you know?
To me, it's just you become this person that you don't even know who you are anymore.
You're like, well, I'm a reaction to that, you know?
And I understand why people do it.
If I had kids, I don't want them living in a fucking hellscape of LA or whatever.
You know what I mean?
I get it.
Some people need to live somewhere where they have a safety for their family.
But it just feels like the lack of uniform standards in this country hurt it a little bit.
The idea that everybody is so all over the place hurts it a little bit.
There should be certain things we're able to come together on.
I don't necessarily say it's a one-size-fits-all, but if you look at how profoundly dysfunctional The country is and how it just seems like infighting and everybody's at war all the time about all these things.
I feel like some of these fights are things that For the strength of our overall union should be decided, and that should be it.
Like, you know, I mean, if we're going to be a strong country that has a unified front in the face of other countries, I think we have to figure certain things out.
I don't think you can have 50 places doing everything completely differently.
That seems longer, because then why be a country?
And I'm not saying you shouldn't have different regional things, but what is...
I'm trying to find the reason we're a country right now.
You know what I mean?
Other than like the economic and the military and the fact that it's been a scam for 50 years of cheap credit and an economy based on war and blah, blah, blah.
But what would keep us a country going forward if we're all just going to spiral off into our own directions?
And I've had the journalist Whitney Webb on my show, who has a book out, and she said that a lot of our AI and stuff, a lot of our tech people go, listen, in order to compete with Chinese technology, which is a lot of it's surveillance technology, things like that, we have to have it first.
Ours has to be better, and we have to have technological hegemony, and we have to sell it to the world before they sell it to the world, and so we have to become a little bit of a police state, too.
I think it woke a lot of people's eyes up when the pandemic hit, when we couldn't get things shipped over here, how much they make overseas, how much we need.
Everybody, because everybody is both things inside of them, whether they know it or not.
Everybody is a psychopathic Texas gun nut, and everybody is a fat, blue-haired dyke in Portland.
We all have those two things in us.
We all have a crazy, meat-in-the-woods, proud boy, and an Antifa fat bitch in us.
And we have to...
Make sure that the fusion of those two things is what makes us great, you know?
We all have those two things.
All of us get mad at corporations and want to burn them down, but we don't go into the Portland Center and throw eggs at a Starbucks because we're sane.
And then all of us get mad when, like, I don't know, like somebody, whatever, like at a fast food place, someone of a different race doesn't get our order right.
We all get mad, but we don't go into the woods with a burning cross because we have things to do.
So...
What we have to realize is that we're Americans.
We're deeply selfish monsters that have been bred to destroy all life on Earth.
We have to not lose sight of that message.
We're here to fuck things up for everyone else, not each other.
And that's what we had in the 80s and the 90s.
We had a commitment to apathy while our leaders ran around pillaging the earth.
And we made great movies and great art, and it was fine.
Yes, people got killed, but people always get killed.
But now we're at war with each other.
We should just be enjoying the spoils of the end of the empire.
Truly.
You should be enjoying it.
So many people got killed, murdered, tortured, maimed for us to have all the nice things we have.
Do you know how insane it is to not enjoy it?
Do you know how crazy it is to not enjoy a McMansion, a flat screen TV, a McFlurry?
Do you know how much blood is in the street for those things?
And people act like they don't even matter.
And they're fighting about all this bullshit?
It's crazy.
Anyway, that's the truth.
That's the real truth.
Nobody wants to hear it, but that is the truth.
A lot of these things are nice, but some of them are ill-gotten gains.
Fine.
Not everybody picking tomatoes is happy about it, but have you ever had a nice Jersey, thick beefsteak tomato?
It's good.
Imagine having one and then fighting with someone about something.
It's stupid.
If there's a hell world going.
And if there's not, we get reincarnated when we're Beatles or something.
But just enjoy it.
And nobody wants to enjoy it.
And that's what makes me upset.
Is that we used to have a country built on enjoyment.
Built on fat, stupid people enjoying the work of a small group of demons.
You can't keep people from wandering around the street, and they definitely need more mental health care, and they definitely need more people that can take care of these folks and help them out.
How many times have I told these people, get off Twitter?
It's nice.
I live in a nice part of Beverly Hills where, and I go back and forth, I live here too, but I have this lovely, the Kingdom of Saud runs Beverly Hills, and it's a great culture, and all the men smoke, and all the women are very quiet.
And you never have to turn around to a Saudi woman and go, keep it down.
They're very quiet, and it's nice.
And it's really nice.
So, I like it, and I'm just, I'm a fan of the regime.
I'm a fan of the region.
I don't know Jamal Khashoggi.
Was Jamal Khashoggi helping me?
Or no?
It's just a really nice, beautiful Beverly Hills is gorgeous, and they don't tolerate shit.
And a lot of it's because it's mainly like Persian, Jews, and Saudis.
So if they happen all the time, you'd go, oh, this is just...
After a rainstorm, you've got to be really crazy to go, well, it's the government controlling the fucking weather.
But when a president is whacked, and they're not whacked all the time, and they're whacked in fucking Dallas, Texas, you know, yeah, and they're whacked by a guy who ends up getting whacked?
You know, when all of American air defenses are outsmarted by a ragtag group of guys who couldn't pass a fucking flight test, does that make you give it a second look?
When a plane going into the Pentagon, there's not one video of that plane going into the Pentagon that's ever been released when there's 90 cameras on the fucking Pentagon?
It's not one?
Except one little weird thing where you go, look at that ball of light explode!
They analyze this actually brilliantly in a documentary called 9-11, The New Pearl Harbor, and they actually talk about this exact video that was released and the frame rate and everything like that.
But it is impossible to know if that thing that you're seeing...
The thing about it is it looks like the trajectory that a plane would take if a plane is getting low and a plane is trying to slam into a building versus a missile.
When you're trying to get to the bottom of something and try to figure out why it shouldn't happen again, and you're trying to treat every person's account as their own personal account of the day, why would two officials have to sit next to each other?
They said, well, live golf, whatever the Saudis, 9-11.
He goes, we don't know what the hell happened on 9-11.
That's a quote Jamie King got up.
Trump literally was asked about live golf, asked about the Saudis, and Trump goes, yeah, we don't know what happened.
That's Trump.
The president, he probably stole the fucking 9-11 documents and he's got them at fucking Mar-a-Lago and he's going to tell everyone the truth at the Labor Day fucking Mar-a-Lago barbecue.
But I can tell you that there are a lot of really great people that are out here today, and we're going to have a lot of fun, and we're going to celebrate, and money's going to charity.
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A lot of money's going to charity.
And you have really the best players in the world, many of the best players in the world, and soon you'll probably have all of them.
Because remember this, if there's a merger, the people that didn't come, they will never get anything except a thank you from people that took advantage of them.
So this is truly what, this is why our society is so fucking insane right now.
The truly wokest points are being made on a golf course by a billionaire.
That's why our society has gone fucking, because he's gone, we've not gotten to the bottom of it.
By the way, that's literally what every fucking far left anti-war protester was saying from my entire childhood.
What that guy just said on a fucking golf course.
We have not gotten to the bottom of any of this shit.
We're in seven wars.
We're enriching people.
And he is making that point.
And it's amazing.
A billionaire on a golf course is going, yeah, we don't know what the fuck happened.
We're in all these wars.
That's why our society has gone so fucking insane that he is the wokest person on that issue.
Truly.
He is.
That's what a fucking lunatic...
You know, like somebody that society viewed as a lunatic would say, you know, in 2003, 2004, I mean, he's the president, we're 2022, but now a lot of people are more open to it.
They're going, yeah, man, here's the reality.
We just don't trust anybody on anything anymore.
And the government's going to have to earn that trust back.
The FBI is going to have to earn that trust back.
The FBI had a two-year, very politicized investigation saying this guy was a Russian asset.
They came up with nothing.
Came up with nothing, okay?
Trump's got all kinds of problems.
He's done a lot of shady business deals, but they didn't go at him for that.
They said he was an agent of Putin and that he was installed and that Putin would do all these things.
They were unable to prove that and, in fact, a lot of the evidence they used that was kind of cooked up in its own weird way with the Steele dossier and Clinton and all those people.
Not to say Trump's not dirty.
I'm sure he's fucking dirty.
He's a real estate billionaire in New York.
What are you, nuts?
Of course he is.
But the FBI is going to have to earn that trust back.
I mean, this is an organization that made their bones with Cointelpro.
They made their bones...
I mean, assassinating civil rights leaders and setting up people, protecting pedophile politicians, fucking doing all this crazy stuff, right?
I mean, they can't just...
We're supposed to just say the FBI is great?
No?
That's crazy.
It's absurd to me and to others.
Doesn't mean Trump's wrong, but if he took like a Bill of Rights on the way out, who gives a fuck?
Yeah, he grabbed a bill of rights or something on the way out.
Listen, the guy knows value.
He knows money.
Listen, he didn't make a lot of money.
He had to cut some side deals while he was in there.
He didn't make a lot of money.
We don't pay the president a lot because it's really not an important job.
Yeah, they asked them to, and I think they had a video that showed those documents going in and out of that room after they told them to lock it up, and they said they did.
What I was reading was that they probably told them where it was going to be held, and they were like, okay, if you hold them there, make sure you follow these steps.
And they were like, okay, we'll follow those steps.
Then they got a video I read that showed, which I'm reading this stuff, so I don't know exactly.
Here, let's play the video because it's pretty interesting.
Here it goes.
Yeah, this is it.
This is it.
Go ahead.
Give me some volume.
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Politics, he's amping them up to 11. Last time out, he preached against Donald Trump and in favor of Palestine.
This tour, twice delayed by COVID and ominously titled, This Is Not A Drill, includes references to police murdering black men, semi-automatic weapons and abortion, and giant video screens in the shape of a cross.
Waters guitarist Jonathan Wilson has explained why Waters tour differs from those of fellow older classic rockers.
Quote, even the Stones or members of the Beatles, it's more of a trip down memory lane than it is a current show.
The activism, that's sort of the key to the whole thing.
As a longtime fan of Waters music who doesn't always agree with his messaging, I wanted to ask him about his mix of performing and preaching.
Things got a bit animated.
So, here's the quote, as I understand, that begins the show.
If you're one of those, I love Pink Floyd, but I can't stand Roger's politics, people.
You might do well to f*** off to the bar.
You might do well to f*** off to the bar right now.
Well, also it encourages a lot of the people who have come to the show A, because they have listened to everything I've written since, you know, 1965 or whenever I started writing songs, so they do know what my politics are and they do understand where my heart is and they understand sort of why I'm there.
But maybe it also gives a message to people who don't want to be there, in which case them effing off to the bar is probably not a bad idea.
Except that, you never know, those people, if they sit in a community like my audience is on these shows of This Is Not A Drill on this tour, there is such a great feeling of communication in that room between me and the audience, and between us combined, With all our brothers and sisters all over the rest of the world, irrespective of who they are, where they live, their ethnicity, their religion, their nationality, or anything else.
Because if this is not a drill, has a message, it is that we have to communicate one with the other.
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To the guy who says, shut the F up, play the hits, do you want him, as long as he doesn't shout it out, do you want him in the arena?
Two strangers passing in the street, by chance two passing glances meet, and I am you and what I see is me.
That is my message.
And that was on medal, which was in 1970. And basically my message hasn't changed.
I recognise your humanity, but I recognise all the Russians and the Chinese and the Ukrainians and the Yemenis and the Palestinians.
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Are you an equal opportunity offender on this tour?
Here's why I ask.
I remember the last tour.
Of course, I came and watched.
Very much, you know, about Trump.
And in the current show, you've got a montage of war criminals, according to you, and a picture apparently of President Biden on the screen, and it says, just getting started.
Well, he's fueling the fire in the Ukraine for a start.
That is a huge crime.
Why won't the United States of America encourage Zelensky, the president, to negotiate obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war that's killing...
What you need to do is look at the history and you can say, well, it started on this day.
You could say it started in 2008. This war is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border, which they promised they wouldn't do when Gorbachev We've negotiated the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe.
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When you say this, then I have to say, what about our role as liberators?
You were completely isolationist until that sad That devastating, awful day in 1941. I would argue we were always going to get in, and that pushed us in.
But thank God the United States got in, right?
You lost your father in World War II. Thank God the United States...
Well, you, with all your reading, I would suggest you, Michael, that you go away and read a bit more and then try and figure out what the United States would do if the Chinese were putting nuclear-armed missiles into Mexico and Canada.
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The Chinese are too busy encircling Taiwan as we speak.
The Chinese didn't invade Iraq and kill a million people in 2003. In fact, as far as I can record, hang on a minute, who have the Chinese invaded and murdered, slaughtered?
You know, pushing this narrative that we are liberators and that we are there to help.
And I think the last round of conflicts that we engaged in, you know, the last round of wars, Afghanistan and Iraq, one we left completely disgraced, Afghanistan and Iraq.
It seems, you know, I don't know what the hell's going on there now, but it doesn't seem to be worth it.
You know, if people look back at it, they go, yeah, that wasn't worth it.
A lot of people died.
Soldiers from our country died.
Million people or hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq died, you know?
And yes, Saddam Hussein is a bad guy, but did it make us safer from terrorism to overthrow Saddam Hussein?
Seems to have done potentially the opposite, you know?
Terrorists were kicked out of Iraq.
I mean, Saddam Hussein was not, you know, fostering people in that country that would be a threat to him or challenge his power.
So, you know, It's tough.
It's tough because obviously we don't want to turn the world over to China and Russia and things like that, but we don't really have the authority we used to have.
And that's what's great about this decentralization that we're all seeing everywhere.
We're seeing people become smaller, kind of leaner, meaner.
Their organizations are more...
We're nimble.
They can react to things, generate content quicker, put it out.
People enjoy it.
They can build an audience faster.
These older companies are cruise ships.
They're big.
They're cumbersome.
It's hard to get them to do things.
I think seeing the independence over the last couple of years, these big companies that have shitloads of money are going to start going to these people and going, yeah, you've got something good here.
Let's see if we can, by putting it on our platform, let's see if we can go into business together.
Let's see if there's some type of reciprocal relationship that works.
I mean, I don't see why that wouldn't happen.
I think that's a natural You know inevitable you know consequence of people wanting to earn money you know these companies going you guys have big audiences Come and share those audiences and we'll get you more of an audience and that seems to make a lot of sense to me That would be a more more fascinating alternative approach to YouTube if YouTube had more of an approach of just let and What becomes popular, popular.
And this is not from the perspective of me doing a podcast that airs on YouTube, just from what I enjoy out of it.
I'm a fan of pool.
It just seems like a stupid thing, right?
Yeah, it is.
It's just a stupid game.
I'm fascinated by it, and I've always tried to play well.
And I watch old matches.
I can watch matches from the 1970s.
Like, these were never available before.
Before, there was a company called Accustats, and I'd buy them.
I had boxes, boxes of VHS tapes, like this high, of Accustats boxes, like old Buddy Hall versus Keith McCready in 1988, and I would watch those things, because you learn how guys move the balls around the table.
Those were impossible to find back then.
I used to have to hoard them, but you'd have to get them from this online company.
But now you can get them on YouTube instantaneously.
Any instructional you want to know on basically anything.
If YouTube was a little more democratic, there was a council, decisions weren't made in the background.
Groom all the time.
The problem is, Steve will do it, who's a friend of mine, part of the Nelk thing, the Nelk boys, he just, his channel was completely deleted because he didn't blur out like a URL of some gambling website.
He was, you know, just one of those clerical mistakes.
This is like us eating poison and wondering why we're dying.
Like this was literally funded by This desire that other people have to control what you can and can't do with your body because of existing laws.
Not because of rational, logical thinking about other intelligent human beings and their perspectives, and whether or not they can handle this, or whether or not this is beneficial to them.
No, they just decide, sweepingly, that they can control you.
If everything became legal tomorrow, people would die.
For sure.
For sure, we would lose folks.
It would be a problem.
They're not innocuous.
When you're talking about giving people heroin and giving people cocaine, I think you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want if you were an informed, consenting adult.
I think it should have come when the Biden administration took office.
That was one of their promises.
You should do that.
You should exonerate people that are in jail for selling it to.
There's a guy that's in jail that I just sent something to.
He was in Phoenix.
This is one of the craziest fucking stories you'll ever hear.
This guy was in Phoenix and he sold weed to an undercover cop I think four times in small amounts that's four times it was a total of Here I'll send you the link Jamie four times it was a total of a little bit over an ounce so because it was over an ounce they were allowed to charge him and They put him in jail for 15 years now in Phoenix right now 16 years excuse me in Phoenix or
and they just denied Clemency for this job I mean, the guy was just selling weed.
That should not be something you should arrest someone for.
Like, don't break the law.
Okay, when you have no more robbers, and no more murderers, and no more rapists, and no more fucking carjackers, when all that stuff is complete zero...
If you want to get him for tax evasion, and say he owes you money because he's been selling $100,000 worth of weed a month for the last three years, okay, get him on that.
I mean, it should absolutely be a priority of any supposedly progressive group of people to figure out a way to stop the bleeding there and get these people out of jail, have their lives restored, and stop people from going into jail for non-violent Drug offenses.
And, you know, they point to history of crime, that people have a history of doing things.
Like, yeah, I'm sure he does.
But if he did his time for that, like, you can't just automatically, retroactively attach something that's innocuous, like selling weed today, with, you know, assault from ten years ago, or whatever it was.
You get in your fucking car and it reads your, like, I have one of them whoop straps, you know, you put on your wrist, it measures your activity and your workouts and shit like that.
Why, you know, it's not the worst idea in the world, like, if you want to be able to drive a car, you should have an app that says, if you're sober, Because if you're really drunk and you think you can handle it- It's a problem.
I was not high, but I got in a car accident when I was young, and my secretary, the secretary of my company was in the car, and she ended up being okay, but it was a bad head-on collision.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
And it was like, you know, you imagine that, like, listen, you can get in an accident sober.
There's a lot of things I miss about New York City.
But there is such a nice...
Someone like you, you're way too famous for it.
But when you don't have to drive, and you just walk around all day, and you look at your phone and you're like, I've done fucking 11,000 steps and I didn't even realize it.
And you're like, I walk all day.
You go, there's something nice about that as a lifestyle.
Yeah, because right now the self-driving thing, it's very highly criticized.
It's not really there yet in terms of you can just turn your car on and take me to work.
And it avoids all the traffic, stops at the red light, lets pedestrians cross in front of you, knows when a car is changing lanes or not changing lanes.
You're having that experience of somebody like, you know, you're imagining like, you know, being in that car in the prime 1969. Yeah, but it's way better.
It's better.
No, you're experiencing that, but now you have none of the problems that it would have.
I wonder if it'll ever get to a point where televisions and super high definition televisions are everywhere.
And if someone could have a digital piece of art that's so astounding, and you could only see it on a digital television, And so you would get one, it would be like, oh my god, he's got an original Beeple.
And you can replicate it.
It's like replicating a Frank Frazetta painting.
Like I have a print of a Frank Frazetta painting, but it's not an actual Frank Frazetta painting.
I get something because I'm a member of this club and I want to be in it and this NFT gives me this Preferred status in this thing that I really like and enjoy.
The DEA suspected that she was involved in over 40. But the Miami-Dade District Attorney's Office became embroiled in a scandal involving three secretaries in the office and one of Blanco's top lieutenants.
So instead of handing her a death sentence, the prosecutor handed in his resignation, and Blanco cut a deal to serve three concurrent 20-year sentences.
After serving her sentence, she was deported back to Columbia in 2004, where she spent the rest of her days.
It was in like 98 when she was going in, and then they said she was out by 2004, last seen in 2007, and killed in 2012. So it's interesting here, it's some kind of poetic justice that she met in and that she delivered to so many others, said Bruce Bagley, a professor.
Yes, but I think what it would look like is approved vendors in certain areas, just like liquor stores and other things, would have to have some type of distance from school or whatever.
But yeah, to your point, I think it is chaotic and the potential for a real problem is great.
They're not going to chase these billionaires because they know the tax loopholes better than anyone.
The flat tax always made a lot of sense to me.
25% of everything move on.
That always made a lot of sense.
Whether you make 20 grand a year or 20 million, 25% flat tax or something like that, 20%, whatever it is, 20%, whatever it is, flat tax.
But then you go, okay, if you do that, then what happens to all these accountants and the big accounting firms and all that whole entire sector of the economy that's run based on how complicated our tax code is?
And then you start to realize, oh shit, like Thomas Sowell said, there's really no solutions, there's only trade-offs.
Because no matter what you do, you're going to create other problems by doing it.
You're going to lay off all these people whose entire career is spent on analyzing this arcane and very complex tax code.
They're not going to have a...
Now, that doesn't mean that the ends don't justify the means or that it isn't a greater benefit, but all of these things become kind of a racket.
It's just a racket.
And if you come in and get rid of the racket, people are going to go, hey man, what the fuck?
It's why the entertainment business, it's like a racket.
Why are there like when you go to a movie set, there's like 30 people standing around doing nothing?
It's a racket.
All of those people have jobs that are supposedly necessary.
But now you can take a phone and film something and have more people see it than a television show that they put millions and millions of dollars into.
If the corporation is paying taxes on the money that they make, and you're paying taxes on the money that you spend, why is there an additional tax whenever you want to use your money?
Because that money is like, if you're making money, and you're paying taxes on your money, and then you're spending that money, and the person who earns that money is also paying taxes, why is there tax in the exchange?
Well, thank God this worked because I don't know what- Thank God we don't have to work in that environment because it's like the things we would say, we would just- I just am thankful that I don't have to walk into an office and have to- Participate in that because I did it for years, but like that fake phony bullshit culture of like, hello and good to see you.
So unnatural for people to not just interact that way and be stuck inside all day like that, but also to like exist in this fucking culture where everybody's full of shit all day agreeing that they're all full of shit.
Oh, yeah, and it's just part of a part of what it is and like I did it for a while, but I was in a sales office.
We had a little more freedom, but it's still the same type of office where a lot of it is based on these weird relationships where you're kind of like, okay, we're here.
For the vast majority of my childhood, the value was in being a conformist to conforming.
And that was where the money was, and that was where the security was, and that's where your good social life was.
Now...
Being a non-conformist and going out and doing your own thing and being a self-starter and being independent and being able to collaborate with people you want, like that, the value now is there.
It's not going into these faceless institutions where you get lost in them.
It's being your own thing, no matter what you do.
It's being your own thing.
That's a massive change from when I grew up and everything was brand names and the right school and the right neighborhood and the right country club or the right whatever.
Now, being independent and creating your own world is certainly, you know, desirable, much more so than falling into like some nameless corporation and becoming like a number.
It's just people have this path that's carved in front of them by their father and their uncles and all these other people that are around them that have done reasonably well for themselves.
You're part of this organism that everyone's on the same page.
It's kind of like North Korea.
You all are like, this is the way we do things.
This is our way.
The other ways are wrong.
This is the way we treat each other.
This is the way we interact.
The other ways are wrong.
If you joke around a certain way, that is wrong.
You were to do...
There's all this approved corporate humor where the VP will get up and say something really dumb and you're at the conference and you have to go, oh, he's fucking hilarious.
But he's not.
And everyone knows he's not.
But it's just, it is that type of...
Totalitarian structure that some people can really thrive in and then work their way up.
And that's a lot of the thing with comedy now is a lot of people that have writer's jobs or work in the business.
A lot of them are very good at office politics and a lot of them are very good at maneuvering.
And a lot of the really funny people who are fucking lunatics who aren't good at any of that shit are shut out or they're not able to, you know, some of the funniest people you'll meet will never have careers because they just can't.
For whatever reason, figure out a way to approach it in a professional manner.
But they're fucking hilarious.
Some of the funniest people that I meet or I've met or I've seen at open mics, I'm just like, that guy's genuinely kind of crazy.
But he's just a little too crazy.
You've got to be in the zone of crazy where you go, oh, that still can treat this like a job.
Sometimes you just have a sense of things that are funny, and you know how to do it, and you have enough crazy to be able to go up there and deliver it correctly.
You're thinking of it like most people, if they're not told to put on clothes or to do, they won't do it.
So a lot of people just need that push to just actually...
I don't know how productive it is.
If you're sitting on your couch, you don't have to go anywhere.
I mean, some people, these people that work at tech companies kind of know how to do it, but like, I don't know.
I think also for your social life, Just to get out of your house, to meet people, to function in society, there might be benefits to not working exclusively from your home.
But I get the idea of, like, if you've got employees that were shifty already, and then all of a sudden they're working from home, like, why isn't this project on my desk?
Again, this became this weird political football kind of almost from the beginning.
It was not a mature country looking at this, going, what the fuck's going on?
It was a lot of people fighting for power, relevance, and there were a lot of people using all these things politically for their own purposes.
Will that stop?
I don't know.
That's a big and much larger question.
Like, will any...
Whether it's a pandemic or a war or anything, will there be any point in our country where we can look at a problem and not make it this political firestorm where there's winners and losers?
Will we ever be able to collectively evaluate a problem and tackle it?
Without retreating into these ideological camps, I don't know.
It helps people who want to just continually operate in the system as it's constructed.
And whether that is The system of perpetual war or the system of the banking sector, the dominance of the financial sector, or the system is tech companies set up to have these political relationships, how they're presently constituted.
People who are thriving in this system and using it to their ends do not want it changed.
Do you think it should be illegal to pretend to represent a human being when you're a corporation that is promoting your own needs?
So do you think that like a corporation that hires Whether it's a foreign corporation, let's say it's a foreign one, so it's not connected to us, that hires a company to propagandize about a specific political issue that's going to be a hot button target.
And they do it as a bunch of people that attack people and go after people with dissenting opinions and quote tweet them and attack them.
But don't you think that that thing right there, just that, that's insidious.
Pretending you're a person for a specific propaganda game and having it like a thousand accounts and you're running it through computers and you've got people responding to things, you've got people that are just retweeting things and posting things and it's all just propaganda.
It's insane that the Congress, the Congress members who Went and started trading stocks based on the knowledge of how bad coronavirus was still have jobs, right?
All of this is kind of insane.
We're just at peak insanity here, and there's, you know, I mean...
America will come apart in one of the funniest ways.
All of these people, these grifters, everybody circling the wagons, the Caitlyn Jenners, the Donald Trumps.
It'll be funny.
You'll die laughing.
Literally, you'll die, but you will be laughing.
It will be the most absurd and insane thing.
It will be out of...
Fucking dystopian horror movie and it won't be funnier than America because we're a crazy country full of crazy people and everybody's just trying to suck the last few dollars out of this bloated pig corpse of an empire before the end.
And I'm no different.
Watch my special and subscribe to my podcast.
What am I going to fucking sit here?
What am I going to go preach on a fucking mountain?
We got to make a little money here.
But make no mistake, I mean, if I'm wrong, and I'd love to be wrong, but if your attitude or your idea is that the population's going to get smarter, healthier, and more adept at problem solving, you're on fucking crack.
Do you think it's possible that through technology and just through people just falling apart, losing their fucking minds, thinking it's the right thing to do- I think what happens next is we'll just have these giant oscillating swings between right and left, and then I think eventually it'll get to a point where large areas in the country are unlivable for a myriad of reasons, perhaps crime or homelessness, climate, whatever.
Very Well-off or well-connected people will have these kind of enclaves.
This is already happening.
And then there'll be a fight to be in one of those two groups.
And then eventually a dictator, a strong mess, somewhere down the line, some man or woman will come in and go, this system's fucked.
I am going to run things, and they will run things in a way, and it probably won't be for the best, but the system will collapse.
But I don't know if we'll see it, but it will collapse.
There's no way it doesn't.
It will collapse to a degree.
And someone will come in and go, yeah, these elections are all fake and it doesn't matter anyway.
Why do you fuckers need to vote?
Here's a coupon for a chicken sandwich.
And people go, I like chicken.
And then, you know, people just go, fuck it.
They don't care.
And then you go, there'll be Netflix.
And there'll be dominoes and you'll sit in your house and they'll say, well, you can't drive today because of the climate.
And people go, yeah, it's Tuesday.
Can't get in my car because of climate.
And you'll sit there and they'll give you, they'll feed you poison and you'll watch TV. And a few people will riot, but very few because most people will be pacified by the goodies, which they'll still probably have.
And, you know, the leader will come on and tell, like, well, they'll be like, hello, everyone.
And you'll go, hey, hey, hey, hey.
And it'll be a celebrity.
It'll be someone you know.
It'll be someone you're very familiar with.
And they'll say a couple of things and be like, it's not that bad, is it?
And they go, no, it's not that bad.
And they'll feed you the propaganda and you won't remember when you were free and you won't remember.
And most people will be fine with that, but me and you will be dead.
And it won't matter.
You know?
And we'll have experienced the best of it.
We'll remember when you could get in a car without a tracking device.
We'll remember when you didn't have a fucking tracking device attached to you at all times.
We'll remember when you could say what the fuck you want, alienate people, piss them off, and no one really cared and it didn't matter because you could wake up the next day and say, sorry I was drunk and it wasn't on fucking Twitter.
People didn't have a record of what you did and what you said and where you were and who you fucked and everything else.
We will remember True Freedom.
We're one of the last groups of people, It's coming.
It's coming and it's going to be so bad it won't even feel bad.
But we'll be like, shit, remember when you could do all those things you can't do anymore.
But, you know, and there'll be a few people that remember it.
And then they'll take all those books about that shit and burn the fuck out of them.
They'll go, well, those aren't good.
Racism, homophobia.
Burn, burn, burn.
And people will forget when you could, we're free.
And they will just kind of create a society based on goodies.
Little goodies, little rewards, and the addiction to celebrity, where our leaders will all be celebrities who will tell you on closed-circuit television how good things are going.
I mean, does it mean that there is a decentralized world?
Because it gets so powerful that no one can really control it and that the people involved in the organization have too much power to say whether or not things are openly and freely distributed.
Like, is that the bottleneck, ultimately?
That when we get to a certain point where technology becomes so fucking advanced that it's basically everything is integrated with everything.
And then the problem with that is, like, what about people that want to, like, Hold on to things physically.
What about people that want like actual physical wealth?
Yeah Like is that what we're gonna have like is all your money gonna be in stuff now?
Yeah You have to have gold bars in your house again now because digital money might not mean anything anymore It might get to a certain point where it's just distribution of resources.
We when that's when we're losing genders and that's everything We're gonna fucking have giant heads and we're all gonna be like moving through space and time.
This is all coming.
It's coming It's coming We're all gonna jump right on board, too, because they're gonna come up with something, whether it's Neuralink or something else, that just makes life way better.
They're gonna give you this chip.
They're gonna put something in.
You're always happy.
There's no more war, because everybody loves everybody.
You're much smarter than you used to be.
You get access to information constantly.
You have, like, error correction software built in.
That's why it's hard to get too worked up or upset about it because the reality is certain ideas just have a weird inertia to them that will happen anyway.
It's what we do up until we hit that zenith point, when maybe the meteor hits, it all goes away, and then a couple years later, people build it back up.
I think once we adopt the first devices, And those devices make life way easier for the people that have them.
It's gonna be expensive, right?
Probably?
And then you would think that the people that have the money are gonna get a giant advantage by having it because it really does increase the bandwidth to access to information and you could be much more productive.
Like the way Elon was describing it, it's like you're gonna supercharge your mind ultimately.
Initially they're gonna use it for people with injuries, spinal cord injuries and medical problems and they're gonna be able to Somehow or another activate areas of the spot, which is wild shit in and of itself.
But if then you make it a fucking super person, like, you're literally gonna make an Iron Man?
But the story was that they were supposed to be giving them some sort of inoculation for HIV. What CRISPR baby prison sentences mean for research?
Chinese court sends strong signal by punishing He, Jiang, Kui, and two colleagues.
I was like, what did they do?
It's a biophysicist who announced that he had created the world's first gene-edited babies to three years in prison.
They sentenced him for illegal medical practice and handed down shorter sentences to two colleagues who assisted him.
The punishments put to rest speculation over whether the Chinese government would bring criminal charges for an act that shocked the world and are likely to deter others from similar behaviors, says Chinese scientists.
By the way, this thing that shocked the world, they're going to do it on all babies.
It's going to take time, but they're going to do it on all babies.
Okay, now new research shows the same alteration introduced into the girl's DNA. Detection of a gene called CCR5 not only makes mice smarter, but also improves human brain recovery after stroke and could be linked to greater success at school.
Okay, duh.
The answer is likely yes.
It did affect their brains, says Alcino J. Silva, a neurobiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose lab uncovered a major new role for CCR5 gene in memory and the brain's ability to form new connections.
It's one of those things where, you know, when you give people the ability to do something, it can substantially increase a person's potential in everything.
It's like a guy who knows DOS, and he gets into your fucking laptop.
He's like, Tim, I'm gonna fix your thing.
He's like, shh, shh, shh, shh.
You're in the code of the fucking human body, and if you can delete genes that have problematic results in a certain percentage of the population, you could literally eliminate specific genetic diseases that people have.
You could make sure that babies are not going to have any issues as they're developing in the womb.
You'd be able to correct things, ultimately, one day.
And that's what's going to lead people to get excited about it, and then it's going to continue to escalate.
It's going to be something that's everywhere.
Okay, so what does it say here?
The first use of an ex vivo CRISPR based therapy to treat a genetic disease.
Researchers treated a patient with beta thalassemia in Germany in February 2019. Twelve more patients have since been treated and seven of them have been followed for at least three months.
None of the patients need blood transfusions in the months after treatment.
The first patient with SCD was treated with the same therapy in Nashville, Tennessee in July 2019. This patient, Victoria Gray, has shown remarkable progress.
Hear from Gray herself, early results on other patients are promising too.
All patients treated for SCD or beta thalassemia are showing normal to near normal hemoglobin levels.
Holy shit!
Where at least 30% of them or 40% of them of hemoglobin is fetal hemoglobin.
In bone marrow samples taken from Gray, an additional SCD patient, and 5-bethalassemia patients, researchers found cells with the expected genetic edit that allows them to make fetal hemoglobin.
This indicates that the edited cells have successfully taken up residence in the bone marrow.
The only immediate side effect associated with the treatment resulted from the administration of chemotherapy.
But show them what they're out there shirts on because there's all these pictures of them without their shirts on their fucking suit like when the dude goes into the river that's seen in the first Yes, I mean come on.
That's what we're all gonna look like.
That's our future That's the future with genetic editing.
We fucking definitely got to jump on those motherfuckers.
So look how he dies.
He dies and his body just destroys and falls apart and he falls into the river and integrates.
And then the idea is, I guess, that his genetic material is the building blocks for whatever life is going to emerge on that planet.
So what they think happened here was that human beings have been visited from the beginning of time, and that what happened was they recognized that there was an intelligent species emerging, but they were really, really, really far behind.
And so they give this intelligent species some of their genes or they manipulate their genes and allow them to advance much quicker than all the other primates or any other animal on the planet.
If you listen to some of the people that think that UFOs are coming from multiple different galaxies and multiple different planets, it could be from anywhere.
But if you listen to the real kooks that believe that the Anunnaki came here, the Zechariah Sitchin stuff?
The Zacharias Hitchin stuff is the fascinating stuff because it's all based on these ancient Sumerian texts.
It's very in dispute of what this guy says.
There's a whole website called SitchinIsWrong.com where they break down his assertions and say this is what's inaccurate and this is why it's wrong.
But what's undeniable is that these people had a detailed map of the solar system 6,000 years ago that they wrote in clay that showed the sun at the center and all the planets in the correct orbit with the correct size.
Not necessarily the ratio, but this one's bigger than that one.
They had a knowledge of the cosmos in some strange way.
And they also had depictions of these very tall, strange-looking figures With little monkey people on their laps.
And they had the symbol for DNA, like the double helix DNA. They had that.
Some people say it's all just ornamental and it's all just beautiful.
Zechariah Sitchin believed that what those Sumerian texts depict is that there's a planet called Dimbiru, and the planet comes here, and the Anunnaki have been genetically manipulating people since the beginning.