May 10, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. | ||
| What's up, gentlemen? | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| Great to see you guys. | ||
| First of all, before we even get started, your fucking new album is fantastic. | ||
| Thank you, thank you. | ||
| I listened to it at the gym this morning, in fact, right before I got here. | ||
| It was fucking good, man. | ||
| It's classic Black Keys. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| You guys consistently make just fucking banging music. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It's so consistent. | ||
| How the fuck are you guys so consistent? | ||
| You know, we learned to play together, you know, 23 years ago. | ||
| I, like, literally started playing drums with him, because before that I was playing guitar, and I guess we just learned how to play together. | ||
| We have this kind of dynamic... | ||
| I think we also have very similar tastes. | ||
| It's all kind of very, it's very, I believe in fate after meeting, after this existence we have, because if it weren't for us growing up a few houses down from each other, we would have never met and we've become, you know, like literally like brothers. | ||
| We have this We're like, our first record came out 20 years ago this week, and we've been doing this thing. | ||
| And it kind of feels like a dream when I think back about all the shit we've been through. | ||
| But as far as the consistency, it's like we've always been on the same pace. | ||
| We just wanted to. | ||
| We were like fascinated with albums. | ||
| We wanted to make records. | ||
| And we were like, you know, two dorks living around the corner from each other who had these things called four tracks, you know, like a little cassette. | ||
| And you could record four different sounds. | ||
| I didn't have one. | ||
| The first time I saw one was at Pat's. | ||
| Yeah, I had one. | ||
| It blew my mind, man. | ||
| It was so cool. | ||
| You could record guitar, vocals, drums. | ||
| What year is this about? | ||
| 97. And then we would fuck around on our four-track, and I would take it over to his house, his parents' house, and we'd set microphones up in the bathroom to get different sounds. | ||
| He just sat on the toilet, put the drums in front of him, used the toilet as the seat. | ||
| And we would just have fun, and then... | ||
| It was 2001. It was right around 9-11. | ||
| I bought this digital 12-track recorder. | ||
| It was a big deal because it cost like $1,000. | ||
| I went into debt. | ||
| I ran into Dan right around then. | ||
| We were both 21. I told him about it. | ||
| He's like, you should record my band. | ||
| He had a bar band. | ||
| And so I told him to come over, and the other dudes just never showed up. | ||
| And so I was there with this recorder, and he's like, you should just play the drums, which I didn't really play. | ||
| And so we set up the mics, and he showed me the songs, and we recorded them real quick. | ||
| And then I spent a couple days mixing it, gave him the CD-R, and he's like, dude, we should start a band. | ||
| And we had this friend. | ||
| Our parents had met this guy. | ||
| Dan's dad's like a folk art dealer, antiques dealer. | ||
| And he had discovered this artist in Akron named Alfred McMoore, who was schizophrenic and other things. | ||
| And his dad used to buy him these scrolls of 50-foot long, 5-foot wide paper. | ||
| And this guy would do these crazy crayon and pencil drawings on them. | ||
| Dan's father would sell them for a couple hundred bucks and give the money to this dude. | ||
| And he would keep a scroll or two for himself, you know, here and there. | ||
| But this guy, my dad then was a newspaper journalist and would write stories about this guy. | ||
| So this guy, Alfred Monroe, used to call our parents' houses all the time. | ||
| And we would come home from, like, school and we'd have these messages like, This is Alfred McMore. | ||
| If you don't bring me some pipe tobacco or some Diet Coke, you're a D-flat. | ||
| You're a Black Key. | ||
| And we'd have hundreds of these messages sometimes. | ||
| And we were like, it was like a complete inside joke. | ||
| So when Dan's like, we should name the band, we should start a band. | ||
| I was like, we're the Black Keys. | ||
| It was like within a second, we named the band. | ||
| We sent this thing off and we got this record deal. | ||
| And then we got this record deal with a small little label on it. | ||
| In LA called Alive and they basically said if you send us 12 songs we'll put your record out and we'll send you like 50 copies on vinyl and 200 CDs and they also sent this little paragraph contract which is like the most bulletproof contract we've ever signed. | ||
| We can't get out of it. | ||
| But they kept their end of the bargain. | ||
| We sent them this record that we made. | ||
| And that was the thing. | ||
| We spent like February of 2002 in my basement at this house we lived in. | ||
| I lived in with some friends. | ||
| It was like a rock. | ||
| Richmond place. | ||
| Richmond place. | ||
| Yeah, it's this little really shitty house in the ghetto in Akron. | ||
| It was rat-infested, and I lived there with some buddies, and I set up in the basement with this recorder, and Dan would come over every day, and we would record, trying to make this record, trying to figure out what a record was. | ||
| We had no idea. | ||
| I had to wake him up every day. | ||
| He slept in. | ||
| Pat sleeps well. | ||
| I'd always wake up early, so I'd wait till like 10 to come over. | ||
| There were no cell phones. | ||
| I had to throw the rocks at his window and get him up every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
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I'd hear his horn honking, yelling. | |
| He'd come screaming in. | ||
| And there was a rat infestation, too. | ||
| We might have to clean up a rat before we... | ||
| Dead rat here. | ||
| Dead rat before we... | ||
| Damn, that many? | ||
| It was nuts, man. | ||
| They were in the bottom of the oven. | ||
| I guess you guys didn't use the oven much. | ||
| Dude, it was nuts. | ||
| But we had no idea what we were doing, and we just kind of knew that we... | ||
| We knew we wanted to learn how to make the records. | ||
| We just taught ourselves how to do it. | ||
| Because the record deal we got involved us receiving zero money. | ||
| So we were responsible for ourselves to make this thing. | ||
| We didn't know how to mix. | ||
| We didn't know how to do anything. | ||
| We just guessed and we sent the thing off and got these records sent back a few weeks later and we were like hooked and we were like At that point, we were like, what do we do now? | ||
| And the guy at Alive, Patrick, who runs the label, was very helpful and was like, he's French, and I can't really do the accent, but he was like, man, you got to go on the road, man. | ||
| And he had this mercenary booking agent book a tour for us. | ||
| And I just found, like, the original kind of route sheet. | ||
| It was, like, two pages of text. | ||
| And it just was basically, like, leave Akron, drive to Chicago, guaranteed money, like, $50. | ||
| Drive to Denver, no guaranteed money, $2 ticket. | ||
| It was just basically, like, you have to be, like, probably slow to do what we did. | ||
| And either slow or totally desperate. | ||
| And we were probably a little both... | ||
| But we went on this tour, and it was out of a dream. | ||
| Because by the time we go around, we go up to Vancouver, and we have this crazy adventure. | ||
| We have no credit card. | ||
| We just got a cell phone that was too expensive for us to even use. | ||
| And we were in this 1994 Plymouth Grand Voyager, just driving across the country with just a Ran McNally Atlas trying to figure out how to get to these places. | ||
| Yeah, in MapQuest directions. | ||
| I remember those days. | ||
| MapQuest. | ||
| And there's always construction and just totally fucks you up. | ||
| When we were 22, we were little kids, really, because we were also kind of sheltered, I think, for 22. Yeah, we'd never really been anywhere. | ||
| I'd been to New York City with my dad at antique shows or something, but... | ||
| I mean, we saw the world together. | ||
| Oh my god, dude. | ||
| If you want to believe in fate, that's a good argument for it. | ||
| We showed up to this place on the third day. | ||
| We could drive all the way across the country to Vancouver and we're exhausted. | ||
| We had to lie across the border. | ||
| We had to say we were there to go to a recording studio because we couldn't afford a work permit. | ||
| And we found this hostel for like $10 a night. | ||
| And we were like, let's stay here. | ||
| My brother was with us. | ||
| So we go in, we pay 30 bucks, and the guy's like, you want some weed with that? | ||
| And these guys bought weed. | ||
| I don't really smoke weed. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| I got so high, I got so apparent, I thought we were going to get murdered in there. | ||
| And there's this guy sitting in this little courtyard, right? | ||
| When we checked in, he was wearing this tracksuit, this big ball of weed. | ||
| It was like a ball of hashish. | ||
| It was like hash. | ||
| It was like clay, you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It was about this big, about a softball. | ||
| Just staring at the walls, smoking shit, and like... | ||
| That was, like, around 11 a.m. | ||
| At, like, 3 a.m., we get back to the thing. | ||
| The ball's now, like, the size of, like, a marble. | ||
| And he's just like... | ||
| And that's when I smoked weed. | ||
| I was like, that guy down there, like, he's... | ||
| He's gonna kill us. | ||
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He's gonna fucking come up here. | |
| Have you ever seen the Woody Allen movie Take the Money and Run? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| His apartment, that's the room we stayed in with, like, the water stains and the sink off the wall. | ||
| That's what the fucking place looked like. | ||
| Oh, man, it's gnarly. | ||
| It's so cool to tell that story though. | ||
| Isn't it now after all the success you guys have had to be able to have a story like that? | ||
| Dude, that whole tour is just stories like that. | ||
| Every night was something ridiculous. | ||
| That's rock and roll though, right? | ||
| The next night we played this place in Seattle called Chop Suey and it was crazy. | ||
| A couple hundred people showed up and that was shocking. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| People know who we are in Seattle? | ||
| They didn't know who we were even in Akron. | ||
| How'd they know who you were in Seattle? | ||
| There was a Seattle weekly write-up. | ||
| Or a stranger write-up. | ||
| We got a weekly write-up and it was filled up. | ||
| We got like 500 bucks and I was freaking out. | ||
| Because that was enough money to get us home. | ||
| And I was like, I'm going to sleep in the van tonight to guard the money. | ||
| You guys go. | ||
| And they went to a party and I woke up at 2.30 in the morning and it sounded like all these dudes outside the van. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| What the fuck's going on? | ||
| I look out and this is like 25 people in Santa Claus outfits. | ||
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And I'm like, what the fuck is fucking going on? | |
| I was like, what am I going to do? | ||
| And I had to pee so bad. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| I have to pee. | ||
| And there's all these fucking Santa Claus. | ||
| I was like losing my mind. | ||
| And I pee in this Gatorade bottle, but I get pissed all over the van. | ||
| And I just like chuck it out the door, close the door. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| And, like, the whole night I'm just, like, trembling. | ||
| Like, what the fuck is going on? | ||
| And I wake up the next day and it was, like, a gay bar called, like, The Manhole. | ||
| And they were having, like, a Christmas in July party. | ||
| So I was like, that's what was going on. | ||
| I was just like, what the fuck? | ||
| Insanity, dude. | ||
| But, yeah, I mean... | ||
| When you think back about it now, it must seem like fate. | ||
| Just the circumstances you guys meeting, the fact that the rest of the band didn't show up, the fact that you guys lived right down the street from each other, and the way you guys get along together and make music. | ||
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I mean, it's pretty fucking incredible. | |
| Yeah, the older we get, the more I think we appreciate it. | ||
| It feels like everything's changed around us. | ||
| Everything's changed in life in general. | ||
| But when we get together in the studio, it's the same. | ||
| Well, it feels the same as a fan. | ||
| That's what's amazing. | ||
| You sent me the link to the new album. | ||
| Does it come out today? | ||
| When does it come out? | ||
| It comes out May 13th. | ||
| What's today? | ||
| The 9th? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you sent me the link to it, as soon as it started, I'm like, yeah, Black Keys. | ||
| Like, right away. | ||
| Like, your music is so recognizable. | ||
| My friend Ari turned me on to you guys. | ||
| I forget what year it was, but he knows I love John Lee Hooker. | ||
| I love a lot of old blues guys. | ||
| And he goes, dude, you're going to fucking love these guys. | ||
| And I've just been a gigantic fan ever since. | ||
| I wish I could remember the first song I listened to, but I don't. | ||
| But uh your your music is so consistent and it's not like a lot of the stuff that's out there It's very uniquely your own and I don't know how you guys are doing that. | ||
| Oh, what is this? | ||
| 2012 Alright. | ||
| Okay, but I think I'd already heard of you guys before, before Tencent Pistol. | ||
| That was just someone put it on the jukebox. | ||
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I was just checking it. | |
| Well, that's the cool thing about seeing people discover our band. | ||
| I always think back to that first record and be like, oh yeah, this would be... | ||
| If I was a 15-year-old and I discovered our band, knowing that that first record was this homemade thing, you could... | ||
| You know, I think that we kind of have, our story's kind of like, you know, it's like American Dream band type of situation. | ||
| Like two dudes who grew up on the same street, who got bullied by the same guy, and traded baseball cards with each other, like, start this band, and now, you know, you can see, like, that first record's like a testament to us learning how to do it, you know, because it's so raw and lo-fi and fucked up. | ||
| Sometimes that's really cool, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's this guy who lives in Canada. | ||
| Goddammit, what is his fucking name? | ||
| We've talked about him before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He's this really weird guy who wears dresses and shit and sings in his basement. | ||
| And he set up he set up a fucking like a like a curtain and put like an old VHS tape and made his own videos and Like he's one of his songs called really big cock And he's either gay or he's bisexual. | ||
| He's cross-dresses, but his stuff is really fucking interesting, but it's super low-budget, sounds terrible. | ||
| Nothing sounds crisp and clean, but there's some character to that, the fact that the way he does it that way. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| It's one name. | ||
| It's on the tip of my tongue. | ||
| I've got it. | ||
| I think I just got it. | ||
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You got it? | |
| Tonetta? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Tonetta. | ||
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I've never read it. | |
| Don't know. | ||
| See if you can find Really Big Cock, the video. | ||
| Because it's actually good music. | ||
| And I think the guy was like, I think he worked in a computer store or something like that. | ||
| And this was some shit he did on the side. | ||
| It was an interview he did where his... | ||
| Yeah, this is it. | ||
| Give me some volume on this. | ||
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Give me some volume on this. | |
| Give me some volume on this. | ||
| It feels like... | ||
| Cool, right? | ||
| It feels like he's got a girl down in a well right next to her. | ||
| Give me a little more volume. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Keep it on the background a little bit. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like, I listen to this in the car sometimes. | ||
| Like, when I'm driving around, it's on one of my playlists. | ||
| When I'm driving by myself, I like this song. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know, but it's like, you look at this, this guy made this for zero money. | ||
| He has, I mean, I don't know what he's using. | ||
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He's like fucking Windows 98. Have you ever heard of the band The Shags? | |
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| My uncle Ralph was a musician. | ||
| He was really avant-garde. | ||
| Dan, you want some Tyson weed? | ||
| I'll give it a shot. | ||
| Yeah, I knew you would. | ||
| I knew you would. | ||
| He put my uncle play with Tom Waits for years and He played saxophone. | ||
| He's into really weird stuff. | ||
| But when I was a teenager, I went to visit him in San Francisco. | ||
| And he introduced me to all this weird music for the first time. | ||
| And he played me this band called The Shags. | ||
| And they have a record called Philosophy of the World. | ||
| And it's three sisters. | ||
| Who absolutely can't play music or write music or sing. | ||
| And their dad wanted to start a girl band with them. | ||
| So he paid to record them. | ||
| And they made this legendary Outsider record. | ||
| It's like the songs... | ||
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Damn. | |
| It's amazing. | ||
| I guess Frank Zappa famously said it was his favorite band or something. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
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They all have these thicker doing that access Oh I mean, it's kind of truly American folk music, really. | |
| It's like, compared to some of the blues stuff that, you know, Dan and I listen to, which is also self-taught, like, some of it kind of insane. | ||
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Very similar. | |
| Yeah, it's very similar. | ||
| We're reading some weird shit. | ||
| There's this guy named Sadell Davis that Dan used to listen to a lot. | ||
| He had polio. | ||
| And he taught himself how to play guitar with a butter knife. | ||
| His fingers were all curled up, so he'd stick a butter knife and he'd slide it up and down. | ||
| He had one finger that he could pluck with. | ||
| Do you have arthritis? | ||
| Like heavy arthritis or something? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| With polio. | ||
| Oh, polio. | ||
| Oh, he had polio and he was trampled in a bar raid in Chicago. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Let me hear this. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
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Well, I see. | |
| That's what bounced back in my head, see, like this. | ||
| You know I ain't did no good. | ||
| Man should get round there at them, boy. | ||
| It's an old song that I put together back when I was 18 years old. | ||
| I told you about Tokyo Rolls. | ||
| You know I love that woman. | ||
| She about to pull out a better doll. | ||
| I said I know. | ||
| Baby, I just can't help you. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Oh, we ain't been longer. | ||
| It's wild to see him play with that butter knife, too. | ||
| He's got a record called The Horror of It All. | ||
| So good. | ||
| It's like 20 years old, riding around listening to that record. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| I listen to Robert Johnson sometimes. | ||
| Every now and then I'll go and try to listen to the original recordings. | ||
| It's hard because you've got to put yourself in the mindset of people that lived at that time. | ||
| It's kind of like listening to Lenny Bruce records. | ||
| If you want to listen to Lenny Bruce, it doesn't make too much sense today. | ||
| You've got to pretend. | ||
| You've got to put yourself in the mindset of someone living in 1963. You have to figure out what was this like for them. | ||
| This is groundbreaking. | ||
| Yeah, we played a Lenny Bruce. | ||
| It was like, I think it was like an ACLU benefit celebrating Lenny Bruce like 18 years ago. | ||
| But they gave us each a box set of his stuff and it was, yeah, it's amazing. | ||
| But yeah, I don't think it translates super well. | ||
| No, it doesn't, because the culture is... | ||
| Everything he's saying is almost like so accepted now. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He was like... | ||
| He was just so far ahead of his time that when he was saying it back then, it was just groundbreaking. | ||
| But it's almost like... | ||
| That's the same thing about Robert Johnson's music. | ||
| You'll listen to the original recordings. | ||
| I mean, he was so revolutionary. | ||
| There's people that thought he sold his soul. | ||
| I mean, that's like the famous myth of Robert Johnson is that he sold his soul to the devil to be able to play like that. | ||
| It's a good story. | ||
| Also, talk about fate, though. | ||
| I mean, he didn't have an official recording session. | ||
| I mean, it was like a guy in town who brought a field recording setup. | ||
| I mean, so it's just fate that he walked in the door. | ||
| No one's got any, like, photos really. | ||
| There's like four photographs of the guy. | ||
| Three photos. | ||
| Is the legend that Robert Lockwood Jr. is his son or grandson? | ||
| No, I can't remember. | ||
| Cousin or something. | ||
| Some relation. | ||
| Didn't he die? | ||
| Wasn't he poisoned? | ||
| That's what they say, yeah. | ||
| They said he was crawling around on his hands and knees before he died, like a dog. | ||
| Like a Russian politician? | ||
| That's what they said, because he's been poisoned. | ||
| Fucking insane. | ||
| That's a rough way to go. | ||
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Oof. | |
| But think about if that guy had not been there in the building with the recorder, we never would have heard him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Think about how many other people like Robert Johnson were out there just playing. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I was going to ask. | ||
| Just killing it in every city they went to. | ||
| He was dressed to the nines everywhere he went, just dapper as hell. | ||
| There's a... | ||
| We made this record that came out last year called Delta Cream. | ||
| And it's a blues album, and we just... | ||
| It's all Mississippi Hill Country Blues, which is a style blues that Dan and I have been into. | ||
| And that's kind of what we first bonded over. | ||
| There's this guy named R.L. Burnside. | ||
| And when we first kind of realized that we both liked the same kind of music, it was kind of through this guy. | ||
| Because I was listening to this band called John Spencer Blues Explosion, and they made a record with this dude R.L. Burnside. | ||
| Dan was listening to RL as well and all this other stuff that was on this label called Fat Possum that we ended up signing to years later. | ||
| We basically made a tribute to that music that came out last year. | ||
| Part of the promo stuff was the only thing we could do during COVID was we drove down to Bentonia, Mississippi and we played a show at the oldest continually operated juke joint called the Blue Front Cafe. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| When was it established? | ||
| Late 40s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Yeah, the guy who runs at Jimmy Duck Homes, I did a record on him. | ||
| He's a great musician, but his mom and dad opened it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And it was handed to him. | ||
| Could you imagine going into a time machine and getting dropped off in 1940 and watching music in that place? | ||
| I mean, that's sort of what it's like when you walk in. | ||
| If you go there, you're stepping back in time. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Wow, you guys played there. | ||
| We showed up at noon, and there were multiple people who had their pants already pissed. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Just so drunk. | ||
| Belligerent. | ||
| And it was funny, because I was like, what? | ||
| I was like, we don't even play until later. | ||
| What's going to happen? | ||
| The people that were that drunk that early, they got so drunk that they got sober again somehow. | ||
| They drank themselves through it. | ||
| And then they were the ones that were just completely coherent playing music at midnight. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But to think that those types of places were all over Mississippi not too long ago. | ||
| Now there are very few. | ||
| I mean, there's like a couple. | ||
| I mean, it seems like live music is something that people always love, though. | ||
| So if you establish a culture of live music in an area, I wonder what makes that slip away like that. | ||
| Music goes out of fashion, you know? | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| It's the thing that... | ||
| It's the most like a drug of any form of entertainment. | ||
| Music can put you into a happy mindset. | ||
| Oh, I don't mean music in general. | ||
| I just mean that style of music. | ||
| But I mean even that style. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I always get confused when things that are really awesome lose popularity in an area while generally being still appreciated by anybody who hears them everywhere else. | ||
| Like in the age of the internet. | ||
| You would think you would start seeing more places. | ||
| Because people are like, if you go to see live music, it's fucking cool. | ||
| And if you've never seen it, and you only get it on video, you're really only getting like 60% of it or 70%. | ||
| Oh, it's life-changing. | ||
| Being there, there's an extra element, right? | ||
| Music doesn't translate through a TV. I mean, I don't think so. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| It does work, though. | ||
| I mean, think of how many people will never see you guys live but still love you. | ||
| So it does work. | ||
| The music does go through. | ||
| But there's something about live that's, like, transformative. | ||
| It's like a drug. | ||
| It's like, if a musician is on stage and they're nailing it and the crowd is all in it, like, everybody's, like, synced in together. | ||
| You know, and it's just, you leave there, you feel better. | ||
| You literally feel like you just went through something. | ||
| Like, whew, that was great. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Spiritual. | ||
| Saw Link Ray, felt like that. | ||
| He walked on stage, he was in his 70s. | ||
| They had to help him put his guitar on. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| And then he just ripped the whole fucking place apart, and everybody was going crazy. | ||
| Begging for an encore, and he never came back. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| And that stuck with me forever. | ||
| Nothing kind of quite... | ||
| Can rip your face off than being in the same room with, yeah, like a great band. | ||
| I was on news radio with Phil Hartman, and when Phil Hartman was, I think he was 19, he worked at the Whiskey as like some sort of like a kid that was like helping them make sure that speakers didn't fall off, like stage hands, some type of deal. | ||
| And Hendrix was there. | ||
| So he's standing like this where the speaker is. | ||
| Holding the speaker so that Hendrix doesn't kick it over. | ||
| Just gotta make sure because it's kind of flimsy. | ||
| And Hendrix is on stage wailing just like feet from him. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And he would talk about that. | ||
| Phil liked it. | ||
| Get high and fucking tell you stories like that. | ||
| And he was just so good at them. | ||
| He would just drag you into that moment. | ||
| He was like explaining what it was like. | ||
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I was 19. And I'm looking up, and Hendrix is right there. | |
| And he's Hendrix at his prime. | ||
| He's like, it was the greatest expression of guitar maybe the world had ever seen. | ||
| And he's there at this moment, just. | ||
| And Phil's a kid, just staring up, watching this. | ||
| Of all the, I rarely watch music on YouTube, but when I do, it's someone like Hendrix, and that stuff always blows my mind. | ||
| It blows your mind if you live today. | ||
| Hartman also did a bunch of record covers. | ||
| Didn't he do, like, Steely Dan Aja or something? | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I have one of his records out there. | ||
| He did? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| He was an artist. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah, he was a graphic artist before he was, like, a sketch comedian. | ||
| Oh, my God, dude, he's so funny. | ||
| The skit, the Saturday Night Live skit, the Mr. Belvedere fan club, have you ever seen that? | ||
| To this day, I referenced that quite a bit. | ||
| I actually met Colin Hanks by referencing that. | ||
| Anybody want any coffee? | ||
| I'll have a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, he was a super fucking talented guy. | ||
| Did he do that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's a big record. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| I never knew that. | ||
| No, he was a super talented guy. | ||
| And he was actually... | ||
| I have that album. | ||
| We framed it and put it on the wall. | ||
| That was another Phil Hartman artwork. | ||
| But he wanted to do stand-up. | ||
| He was talking about doing stand-up. | ||
| So cool. | ||
| He was warming up the crowd. | ||
| He would do a little stand-up for the crowd when we were doing the show. | ||
| But anyway, the point is, just imagine being there live, that young, and seeing Hendrix, and being in a position like, how do you get feet away from him, where you're literally holding onto a speaker? | ||
| You're just right there! | ||
| You can touch him! | ||
| When we were first touring, we got befriended by some music journalists. | ||
| That's kind of our little network that we would hang out with when we were on tour. | ||
| It was like hipster writers who liked our band. | ||
| And this one guy, Jay Babcock, we stayed at his house when we were in L.A. early 2003, and he had a whole box of VHS concerts and stuff, and he busted out this Black Sabbath live in Paris, 1970. I think it's the best concert footage I've ever seen. | ||
| And I've never officially released the whole thing, but it's the best concert I've ever seen. | ||
| And it's absolutely mind-blowing. | ||
| There's a couple songs from it on YouTube, but he had the whole concert, and it was like up for French TV. Amazing, but you can see a young Ozzy just like really just with it and just stoic. | ||
| Yeah, head banging, not moving, just banging his head. | ||
| The drummer, Bill Ward, is just going off. | ||
| Bill Ward is insane in this show, and he keeps his extra drumsticks in his belt loop and his jeans. | ||
| Give me some of this, Jamie. | ||
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Damn. | |
| That's so good. | ||
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Fuck! | |
| This is the kind of thing that would just give me a complex watch. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Ozzy's been through the fucking ringer. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| When you realize what he was like at one point in time, and you see what he's like... | ||
| Oh, if you fast-forward three years, they play a concert at a Speedway in California, like, 73, and you can see the drugs is already... | ||
| Did their thing. | ||
| That dude went hard. | ||
| Just check it out. | ||
| Fast forward to the Black Sabbath at the Speedway in 1973. He's wearing this crazy outfit so on speed. | ||
| It's like, oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's three years later, just gone. | ||
| But yeah, they made like six insane records in four or five years. | ||
| Yeah, the lifestyle was just too much. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It was too much. | ||
| Do you think that people really knew the long-term effects of speed back then? | ||
| It seems like they didn't. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| It wasn't around before that, right? | ||
| I don't think they cared. | ||
| Was it Hitler on speed? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You ever see the video? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think it was the 1936 Olympics. | ||
| I forget what year it is, but it's before World War II had officially kicked off. | ||
| He's got the Nazi outfit on, and he's nodding back and forth, moving his hands. | ||
| You can barely keep it together. | ||
| See if you can find it. | ||
| It's crazy to watch. | ||
| He looks so cracked out. | ||
| And this was the guy that started the fucking war. | ||
| This is World War II from this fucking asshole. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| Look at him tweaking. | ||
| He's tweaking so hard. | ||
| He doesn't even need binoculars. | ||
| Everybody else needs binoculars. | ||
| I mean, that is crazy. | ||
| When you look at him compared to everybody around him, That's just wild, man. | ||
| So fucked up. | ||
| And what's crazy is, like, World War II was almost an amphetamine-driven war from kamikaze pilots. | ||
| That was the thing that they had given them, wasn't it? | ||
| Is that a myth? | ||
| That's not a myth, is it? | ||
| Kamikaze pilots and meth? | ||
| I think it's real, right? | ||
| Didn't we look that up once? | ||
| They'd meth them up and get them to fucking slam their planes into boats. | ||
| That was like the early days of speed, though, when those guys were doing it. | ||
| I don't know if everybody knew how bad that was going to wreck you. | ||
| It's responsible for a lot of terrible music. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| For workers, soldiers taking methamphetamine was a patriotic duty that hooked a generation. | ||
| So they made the fucking country take meth. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| This is fucking wild. | ||
| They made the whole fucking country do it for their patriotic duty. | ||
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Wow. | |
| The result of the state promoting it during the war. | ||
| And that is fucking crazy. | ||
| Well, they figured out when you're messed up, you're not thinking straight, and this is the best way to control a population. | ||
| I never really fucked with that kind of stuff, but one time I was partying in New York, this was probably 10 years ago, and a friend of mine was like, it was like 4 in the morning, and we were on tour, and someone was like, you should have some of this Adderall. | ||
| I said, sure. | ||
| They put some in my drink. | ||
| I was up till 5 p.m. | ||
| the next day watching the news just so focused. | ||
| I was like, you can get a prescription for that drug? | ||
| I mean, dude, I'm really sensitive to that stuff. | ||
| I was like, I felt crazy. | ||
| I was at LaGuardia nodding off. | ||
| I looked like junkie. | ||
| I was like, this is crazy. | ||
| It took me from being totally at a place where I should have been going to bed to up for a whole nother basically day. | ||
| How much does it wreck you after it's over though? | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I think I'm just so sensitive to it that the next day I slept the whole night and I was like, I'll never touch that stuff again. | ||
| And you were on a low dose? | ||
| Is it a normal dose? | ||
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Do you know? | |
| I think I took 30 milligrams. | ||
| What's a normal one? | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| I think some people take that every day. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| How much of the way you see online fighting and bickering and just the chaos of right versus left is driven by that? | ||
| I think a lot. | ||
| I bet a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I bet there's a lot of people that are medicated out there. | ||
| I bet we'd all be shocked. | ||
| You know, that's the whole fighting online. | ||
| When we put a new song up, I'll look to see comments on YouTube. | ||
| Of course, I'll shave off the worst 5% and the best 5%. | ||
| But still, you can't help but be rattled by just... | ||
| Just what drives someone to just be a complete dickhead for no reason. | ||
| There's plenty of them. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's like what the internet has become is just like... | ||
| And like Twitter's the worst. | ||
| I stopped enjoying it like a decade ago. | ||
| I accidentally got into like a Twitter spat with Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga's fans. | ||
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Oh, that's right. | |
| I remember that. | ||
| I was like, this is funny, this is funny. | ||
| And then I realized, this isn't fun, honestly. | ||
| Too much negativity. | ||
| So many people, that's where they dwell most of the time, and it can trap you. | ||
| And you can think that it's your duty to engage in this, that you're doing activism or something. | ||
| Just being shitty to people. | ||
| There's so many people just being shitty to people in that form. | ||
| In a way that you would never want to be in real life. | ||
| You'd have to be a terrible person to just say to a person that you don't even know some of the things that people will type out on Twitter. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's also the total opposite. | ||
| The fake niceness. | ||
| Saying how great everything is. | ||
| Praising everyone for all this ordinary shit. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of that, too. | ||
| There's a lot of, like, weirdness where people will find these little tribes of people that think very similar to them. | ||
| I mean, we were talking earlier, I got a 14-year-old girl, and I worry so much about her with social media and how just what she thinks of everyday normal life, you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, it's rough on kids. | ||
| They've shown, you know, Jonathan Haidt has a great book about it called The Coddling of the American Mind. | ||
| They show the uptick in girls' self-harm, suicide and self-harm that's directly connected to social media, correlated at least, because it's all the same time frame. | ||
| It's like right around the time the iPhone comes out, right around the time when people had Internet access on their phone. | ||
| And then they started using apps, whenever that was. | ||
| You know, what is like online dating life for people either? | ||
| When you're just swiping right and swiping left to meet people? | ||
| Tell me that can't get addictive. | ||
| That must be addictive, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yesterday, I had a friend who sent a dick pic to somebody he met on Tinder and then they tried to get 15 grand off him. | ||
| That seems like a bargain. | ||
| Nothing so stupid. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| It's like, you know, I wouldn't want to be a kid today. | ||
| But I guess everyone's always said that. | ||
| That's the thing, too. | ||
| It's like, if you went back to like the 1930s, you're probably like, oh, I wouldn't want to be a kid today with all the cars back when I was a boy. | ||
| You know, it's been our thought always. | ||
| We've always looked, you know, at the next generation coming up thinking, oh boy, I wouldn't want to be you today. | ||
| I had it easier. | ||
| When we were making this album, it was like the first time I'd really socialized outside my house in a year, because we were pretty Locked down. | ||
| So it was a lot of fun. | ||
| We'd go to dance studio and just shoot the shit and tell stories because we went to the same high school and there are a lot of stories, just insane stories from high school, how fun it was, how crazy. | ||
| We were kind of like the last generation or close to it, pre-cell phone, pre-social media. | ||
| We used to see the girls at our school The black girls specifically would get into these fights that were just so epic. | ||
| That, I mean, it was just, it was rattling. | ||
| I saw this girl get thrown through the trophy case. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And that kind of stuff happened, like, every day. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| It was just insane. | ||
| And, like, I think about my stepdaughter who goes to a really fancy private school in Nashville, and, yeah, like, she's never seen a fight. | ||
| I say the same thing to my daughter. | ||
| I'm like, were there any fights today? | ||
| She's like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Nobody fights in our school. | ||
| Isn't that weird, though, that we can look back as long as we survived those experiences? | ||
| You look back at them like there's something kind of cool about it, like flavors your life. | ||
| But you don't want your kids to be exposed to that, right? | ||
| We made a video for our first single off this record called Wild Child, and the whole concept was that we were just going to try to... | ||
| We work in some things that happened to us at high school, but kind of put it through the concept of high school today, what kids can get into, the trouble that kids can get into. | ||
| But we were talking about our high school a lot. | ||
| We had this health teacher who smoked a pipe while we ran the track. | ||
| He's like the football coach. | ||
| And the way that he taught sex ed, which is like he didn't go into any detail about anything, but he grabbed a stack of photographs of venereal diseases. | ||
| And he's like, here we go, venereal. | ||
| He's like, genital warts. | ||
| Oh, hell no! | ||
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Oh, hell no! | |
| And he's like, look at this! | ||
| He passed it around. | ||
| Not even wanted to touch it. | ||
| It was probably the most effective health class I've, you know, scared us straight, man. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| That sounds like a great strategy. | ||
| Show people. | ||
| Can they still do that or no? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It worked for me. | ||
| I think you'd probably get in trouble for showing infected generals in class. | ||
| Especially if it's your infected general. | ||
| If it's yours, yeah. | ||
| This is back in 85. That's called crabs, kids. | ||
| Look how red my balls are. | ||
| Yeah, you can't do any of that. | ||
| You can't show them pictures of stuff. | ||
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But it would work, especially for boys. | |
| Really, you can't show pictures anymore? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what you can show. | ||
| I'm just guessing. | ||
| But I'm saying, if you did show that, like, if you showed genitals that were infected by venereal diseases, for sure you're getting fired. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I would imagine you're not allowed to show a rotten dick in classes filled with kids. | ||
| Maybe if you say, oh hell no, while you pass it around. | ||
| Yeah, you just let them know, this is not good. | ||
| I'm not promoting this. | ||
| This is scared straight for penises. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| We had this, uh... | ||
| We had this, uh... | ||
| Student counselor, high school counselor. | ||
| His name is Mr. Bennett. | ||
| He had an assistant, this chick named Abby, sat next to me in math class when we were seniors. | ||
| He'd walk in and he was very effeminate, but he had a family. | ||
| There was something just so weird about this dude. | ||
| Every day, I would say to Abby, he would come in every day to see her and then leave. | ||
| I was like, man, there's something. | ||
| Mr. Bennett, I think he might play with some of the boys in school. | ||
| And she was like, you're so... | ||
| And I was just bullshitting. | ||
| But then the next year it came out, he went to prison. | ||
| He was literally fucking a student, a boy in our school. | ||
| And I've been like... | ||
| And ever since, I never ran into Abby ever again, but I just want to let her know that it wasn't a cry for help from me. | ||
| I just was guessing. | ||
| We had a soccer coach. | ||
| He would ask all the boys at the end of the season to donate their shoes so that he could give them to less fortunate people. | ||
| And he was just jerking off in the shoes, and they found them all in his closet before he went to prison. | ||
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Jesus Christ! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the problem with any job where you get to work with kids. | ||
| Like, are you working with kids because you love them and you want to educate them and you feel great satisfaction out of that? | ||
| That's mostly. | ||
| Mostly. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| But, are you working with kids because you're sexually attracted to them? | ||
| That's some. | ||
| That's what's scary. | ||
| What's scary is a tiny percentage of people that are just fucking freaks. | ||
| And, you know, they'll bang a kid at school. | ||
| Like, that's just a small percentage. | ||
| It boggles my mind. | ||
| It's a broken part of human life that exists. | ||
| There's something about the human brain that does that. | ||
| It's like the most forbidden thing. | ||
| There's something evil about it in a way. | ||
| It's like terrible programming. | ||
| The fact that a person could ever do that and the fact that it happens often from people who had been molested themselves. | ||
| That's the scary thing. | ||
| It's all like a sickness that infects someone Insane I'm just thinking about all this though the wildness of today and the all the This district like the strange it seems like more now than ever I don't know what the fuck the future holds for the human race. | ||
| More now than ever, look at all this crazy shit that's going on with Russia, and I start thinking, I don't know if we're going to make it through this. | ||
| Why am I so cocky? | ||
| Why am I thinking every day everything's going to be fine? | ||
| This might not be fine. | ||
| This is one of those it might not be fine moments. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Watching all that stuff go down. | ||
| And watching just everything in our country, just everything is so fucking polarized and crazy. | ||
| Like, why are we fighting so much? | ||
| Is this necessary? | ||
| When I think about everything that's been going on the last couple years, for some reason this image keeps coming up. | ||
| And it takes place when we were on tour. | ||
| And I find it to be the most comforting thing for some reason, but it was after a show in Houston, there was these two chicks that came to the show and were hanging out, and they wanted to hang out with us after the show. | ||
| So we went down to their car, and all they wanted to do with us was a bunch of whippets. | ||
| And we went to their car, do you remember this? | ||
| And their whole backseat of their car was just filled up with whippets. | ||
| My brother was there and Dan was there and just sat there and did whippets with them. | ||
| And I was just like, this is... | ||
| That's what, like... | ||
| I miss those days. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| That's the whole story, just like... | ||
| I worked at a Newport creamery and people got fired for doing whippets. | ||
| It was an ice cream place in Massachusetts. | ||
| Dudes who worked there would do whippets. | ||
| It's so innocent, though. | ||
| These girls just want... | ||
| The bill doubled this month. | ||
| I've never did whippets. | ||
| Or if I do, I don't remember. | ||
| I don't think I got high off of it. | ||
| I don't think I did it right. | ||
| Maybe I tried a little bit, but the guys who did it swore by it. | ||
| They would do it all the time. | ||
| Because they had those fucking big-ass jugs, because we would make the cream back there. | ||
| So they had these big-ass jugs of the juice, and they would get back there and... | ||
| My friend's dad was a dentist, and they used to go, I mean, he's about 10 years older than me, so this was years ago, but they would sneak into his office and just turn the nitrous machines on, sit down in the chairs, and chill out. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That seems dangerous. | ||
| Dad seems insane. | ||
| That's Gen X for it. | ||
| We're like the tail end of Gen X, but deep Gen X, there's a whole different level of fucking with shit like that. | ||
| You feel like you could find someone dead from that. | ||
| We live in a time where you can get ketamine drips. | ||
| You can get therapeutic ketamine drips. | ||
| I know a dude who was working with me who got into that and had a complete meltdown. | ||
| Just basically ran away from me and moved to a different city. | ||
| I can't speak to it because I haven't done it. | ||
| But I know friends that have done it for depression. | ||
| Like my friend Neil did it for depression, Neil Brennan. | ||
| And he said, dude. | ||
| He goes, I go into this fucking office. | ||
| He goes, they rigged me up at this thing. | ||
| I think, oh, it's probably, you know, just going to be like a weird sort of sedative state. | ||
| He goes, no, I'm full on tripping balls. | ||
| You're just psychedelic tripping in a doctor's office. | ||
| And you can get it all over the place. | ||
| I asked my friend, I was like, so what happens when you take it? | ||
| He's like, well, it's weird. | ||
| I have the same experience every time I've taken it. | ||
| I was like, oh yeah, what's that? | ||
| He's like, yeah, the last 24 hours play back in fast speed, but in order. | ||
| I replayed the last 24 hours. | ||
| I was like, fuck that! | ||
| Fuck that! | ||
| That's a sign that you shouldn't be doing that. | ||
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Fuck that! | |
| The fuck is that? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I don't know, dude. | ||
| Dumbest TiVo ever. | ||
| Kids get addicted. | ||
| I knew a guy who died from it. | ||
| A guy was using it recreationally. | ||
| A guy was a kickboxer. | ||
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Died from Special K? Yeah, he was doing it too much and he died. | |
| He was addicted to it. | ||
| He wanted to do it all the time. | ||
| I've never even heard of that. | ||
| Yeah, apparently with some people that get addicted. | ||
| He went into a treatment place out in Thousand Oaks. | ||
| There's another friend of mine put him in there, and I remember thinking, man, that's the stuff that John Lilly used to take when he was in the isolation tank. | ||
| He used to intramuscularly, yeah, he used to shoot himself up with ketamine. | ||
| He'd get in the tank, bang, hit his thigh with a fucking needle and pump it full of ketamine, you know, open the door, throw the needle out, and just go into another dimension. | ||
| Like, in the tank. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| And now you can just get that in a drip. | ||
| You just go to a place and they're like, what are you, depressed? | ||
| Dan, have a seat. | ||
| I'm going to bring you to another dimension. | ||
| We know three people who we've worked with over the years who all did the same thing. | ||
| They all took LSD every day for a year. | ||
| These are independent of each other, these people. | ||
| And there's three of the smartest people that we know. | ||
| But I feel like it's almost, you know, if you can get through that. | ||
| Also, one guy in particular, He would take it before he went to bed. | ||
| He taught himself how to sleep on acid. | ||
| Oh my god, that's insane. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| I bet it's like, remember in the old days when people had computers and they would overclock their computers? | ||
| You remember those days? | ||
| No, what is that? | ||
| Jamie, you know what I'm talking about, the early days of gaming computers. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure they do. | ||
| But in the early days, when people started making computers for gaming, you would change the speed of the computer and overclock it past its specifications. | ||
| And you could do it with some, but some would burn out and break. | ||
| Some of them, though, would make it better. | ||
| I think that's the way brains work. | ||
| I think if some people do acid, it just... | ||
| Bang! | ||
| And then you got broken pistons and fucking smoke coming out of the pipes. | ||
| Some people can maintain high RPMs on that shit. | ||
| And it actually, like, just like making a computer more functional or have more power, more juice. | ||
| I think it does it to people, too. | ||
| But I just don't think most people can maintain it. | ||
| Dude, I think the amount of... | ||
| And once you go there too far, you can't go back. | ||
| Most people know someone who's gone to the dark lands. | ||
| I went to school with a girl whose dad had taken too much acid. | ||
| We used to go to this pool in the summertime and I saw him one time and he was in front of the... | ||
| It's like a public pool, you know? | ||
| And in front of the pool he was selling tie-dye T-shirts. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He was so fried, man. | ||
| I think also it fast tracks like schizophrenia if you have it. | ||
| You can jump to the front of the line there. | ||
| There's a book about that that Alex Berenson wrote about edible weed. | ||
| Weed in general, but I think edible weed is the one that really does people in. | ||
| There's something about it. | ||
| For some people, for people that have a tendency toward schizophrenics, it seems to indicate that it might trigger that. | ||
| Oh, I had a girlfriend whose brother smoked some weed laced with something, I guess. | ||
| I don't know what it was, but... | ||
| I had to go pick him up from college, and he came back. | ||
| He thought the TV was talking to him, and it was terrifying. | ||
| And like three or four days later, it kind of mellowed out, but I was like... | ||
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Guys have gone. | |
| I mean, the guy from Pink Floyd. | ||
| Sid Barrett? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That was a LSD thing, too, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I think we grew up around a lot of burnouts, really. | ||
| Even the Unabomber. | ||
| The Unabomber was a part of the Harvard LSD studies. | ||
| Ted Kaczynski. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking insane, man. | ||
| Yeah, they ran studies on that dude with acid. | ||
| Back in the day when they would just try shit on people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You guys ever heard of Operation Midnight Climax? | ||
| Is that the dude that jumped out of his window or something? | ||
| No, it was the CIA had an LSD program that they would do in brothels. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So they would dose up these Johns. | ||
| They'd come in and talk to the ladies. | ||
| And the ladies would give them a drink. | ||
| And they would drink it. | ||
| And they'd be tripping balls on acid. | ||
| And they'd film them and ask them questions and shit. | ||
| Just get all kinds of dirt. | ||
| Just watch them have sex and freak out. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| You know, not even knowing you're on acid. | ||
| Oh my god, man. | ||
| I met this chick who was in the... | ||
| She was in the CIA for a while. | ||
| She was telling me about it. | ||
| Her job was, she was partnered up with a guy who she ended up, I guess, maybe being romantic with, but they both were agents and they were sent to China to start an art gallery. | ||
| They were basically hanging out with the artists and the subculture and then selling that work to the successful business guys and politicians. | ||
| I guess she was able to talk about it because they let her out of the thing. | ||
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I'd always wanted to be in the CIA. That Windows thing is Operation Midnight Climax. | |
| It's the same thing. | ||
| He jumped out of a window. | ||
| They scared this guy to the point where he killed himself. | ||
| Oh, so the guy, one of the Johns jumped out of a window? | ||
| And they believe it's the same program. | ||
| He had young kids. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| They also ran the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic, where Marilyn Manson, or not Marilyn Manson, Charles Manson, excuse me, was getting all his acid. | ||
| It was all from the same program. | ||
| This guy Jolly West in the CIA. Wild shit was going on back then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are they up to now? | ||
| With the CIA? What do you think? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Where are they at now? | ||
| They probably run TikTok. | ||
| Are they giving ketamine trips? | ||
| Dude, the last time we were on here, like three days later, I ran into, we were playing our first arena show in years at the Pepsi Center in Denver. | ||
| I reached out to you after this, but I was like sitting backstage and our production manager came back. | ||
| He said, hey man, Tom DeLonge's here. | ||
| He wants to meet you. | ||
| And I was like, Really? | ||
| I never met Tom. | ||
| And I was like, sure, yeah. | ||
| Please send him back. | ||
| And Tom's cool as hell. | ||
| I never met him. | ||
| But man, he freaked the shit out of me. | ||
| Right before I went on stage in front of like 15,000 people, he was like, yeah, UFO. For an hour, he was like, UFOs are real. | ||
| They're watching everything we're doing. | ||
| There's a lot of shit going on. | ||
| Dude, for an hour, I was just like... | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| And I got so paranoid. | ||
| I went out after the show that night to this bar. | ||
| And I met these ex-military guys. | ||
| Like, hey, we own this bar here. | ||
| You should come hang out. | ||
| So I followed them to this bar. | ||
| And they're like, oh yeah, there's some girls that might stop by. | ||
| I was like, okay, yeah, they're Russian. | ||
| They're strippers. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| They don't give visas to Russian strippers. | ||
| And then all they did is sat there and asked me how I felt about Vladimir Putin for like an hour. | ||
| What? | ||
| Straight up. | ||
| And I was like, what are you doing to me? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| Are you asking me? | ||
| And I was like, these are all military. | ||
| I was like, get me the fuck out of here. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| So, yeah, I don't know, man. | ||
| It got me so bugged out. | ||
| But a part of it probably was the fact that Tom DeLonge was telling me that, like, he told me that, he was like, do you remember the blackout that happened in 2003 in New York? | ||
| Which I remember because we were traveling in from Europe and we landed in Newark. | ||
| Like right around then. | ||
| And our flight got all delayed and we ended up renting a car. | ||
| But the power outers that happened, they say it happened in Akron, where we're from. | ||
| They say like some dumbass, like Homer Simpson type just hit the wrong button. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| He was like, oh no, it was actually the government shot down a UFO that day with the electromagnetic pulse. | ||
| Yeah, I had Tom on my podcast and he's a really nice guy. | ||
| So nice. | ||
| Really nice guy and very talented musician. | ||
| But I think he is a believer. | ||
| And I don't say that in a negative thing. | ||
| It's a state of mind. | ||
| A state of mind where you're a believer first. | ||
| Like, you believe in UFOs. | ||
| You want to believe in UFOs. | ||
| And then it takes on a religious quality. | ||
| And it can happen with almost anything. | ||
| It can happen even with atheism. | ||
| It can happen with anything. | ||
| People just could decide that you don't want to ever question any aspect of it. | ||
| You just want to only look at it like UFOs are fucking real, man. | ||
| So he showed us some videos, and I was laughing. | ||
| I'm like, dude, this is the fakest looking shit I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| I think there's no doubt that there's probably... | ||
| Honestly, there's no doubt. | ||
| We might be the only life out there. | ||
| That's a possibility. | ||
| Because we don't know for sure there's other life out there. | ||
| But we might not be. | ||
| And more likely than not, we're not. | ||
| More likely than not, there's a fucking infinite number of civilizations out there. | ||
| More likely. | ||
| Have they gotten here? | ||
| Fuck man, maybe if they were really good, if they knew how to get here, don't you think they'd be able to hide? | ||
| I mean, we have fucking radar jammers on front license plates to try to stop cops from, you know, hitting you with a speeding gun. | ||
| You don't think they're smart enough to avoid detection? | ||
| So maybe they have been here, but there's also a lot of fucking crazy people. | ||
| And there's a lot of crazy people that are believers. | ||
| They're just fucking stone-cold believers, whether it's in Bigfoot or UFOs. | ||
| It's not hard to start believing in a conspiracy. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| It's easy to believe. | ||
| It's very easy. | ||
| Whatever it may be. | ||
| It's just when you go fully deep into it, it's where it can get a little freaky. | ||
| I think most likely. | ||
| When I was a teenager, my friends and I used to go to this little video rental store and they had a section on... | ||
| It was all conspiracy videos. | ||
| The guy that owned it must have been into it, but they had like... | ||
| You know, videos on the Illuminati and we would rent these things. | ||
| Which place is this? | ||
| It was over by... | ||
| It was behind Farrell and Bull. | ||
| I forget the name of the... | ||
| Those things were great before the internet. | ||
| But dude, we got... | ||
| The video stores? | ||
| Well, I mean those conspiracy movies. | ||
| Before you could research whether or not they were bullshit. | ||
| Remember Faces of Death? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| But the thing about those conspiracies is they're like, oh yeah, there's Hillary Clinton's lizard. | ||
| Yeah, lizard people. | ||
| You can see George Bush's gills open up and... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I mean, I will say this, though. | ||
| We have been in some... | ||
| We've definitely been in situations where it's like, oh, why are all these people hanging out with each other? | ||
| It's like every rich and famous person hangs out and on vacation here together. | ||
| And St. Bart's on New Year's Eve, it's like if you ever wanted to take over the world, you just need to take over St. Bart's on New Year's Eve. | ||
| You'd have full control of the world. | ||
| Straight up. | ||
| Every yacht's there. | ||
| We played a show there for Larry Gagosian and Roman Abramovich years ago. | ||
| And it was a really cool, private little beach party. | ||
| And a bunch of celebrities were there, like Chris Rock and Rick Rubin or whatever. | ||
| But then at the same time, we're flying in and we land and they're like, oh yeah, they're gonna take a boat from St. Martin's over to St. Bart's. | ||
| So I get on this boat And I was like, this thing's flying. | ||
| It's going like 80 miles an hour. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| This is Roman Abramovich's yacht? | ||
| He's like, no, man. | ||
| This is Roman's boat that goes inside of his yacht. | ||
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And I was like, what the fuck? | |
| He's like, yeah, there's two of these boats. | ||
| Go inside his boat. | ||
| And they had forward-looking infrared. | ||
| You could see it looked like daylight and it was flying. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| And they're like, what the fuck? | ||
| And then I was like, how often does he have to refuel that boat? | ||
| And he's like, the pilot, the ship guy, whatever you call it, skipper. | ||
| He was like, that boat? | ||
| Every two years you need to take that thing. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| Two years? | ||
| Is that like a nuclear reactor on that? | ||
| It just looked at me like I was an idiot. | ||
| I still don't know, but I was like, fuck, man. | ||
| It could be a really good Adam Sandler vehicle. | ||
| Like Airheads, but instead of taking over a radio station, they take over the world by, I don't know. | ||
| The band goes and plays St. Barts and then just like... | ||
| I don't know, it takes over the world. | ||
| It'd be good to do it at this time when the Russian oligarchs are all getting their yachts stolen from them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta wonder why everybody wants that yacht. | ||
| All those rich guys want the fucking yacht. | ||
| The big, huge yacht. | ||
| David Geffen. | ||
| Yeah, they have their own little town. | ||
| What powers these yachts? | ||
| It's just the ultimate baller thing, isn't it? | ||
| For those guys? | ||
| I think, dude, they're armed, straight up. | ||
| They're armed? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| So those things are like military vehicles. | ||
| I heard that Romans had some fucking weapons on it. | ||
| They fuck you. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Torpedoes. | ||
| So they're driving around an armored city and then... | ||
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Torpedoes. | |
| Dude, yes! | ||
| Dude, surface-to-air missiles? | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Straight up, dude. | ||
| In their yachts? | ||
| Fuck yeah, dude. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Didn't one of them have a submarine? | ||
| Of course, dude. | ||
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What the fuck's going on? | |
| What? | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| Two helipads, two swimming pools, bulletproof windows. | ||
| Dude, you can't just tell me these guys all just loved G.I. Joe a lot or something. | ||
| It's $1.6 billion. | ||
| It's a mini submarine with, does it say internal boarding? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It's got a fucking submarine. | ||
| Holy moly. | ||
| Yeah, $1.6 billion. | ||
| So you see something like that, you can't help but think of some sort of conspiracy, right? | ||
| Yeah, hey bro, where'd you get the money? | ||
| Like, you're balling out of control, fella. | ||
| And so that's the weird thing. | ||
| It's like they're taking everybody's stuff, but do they have to find out how they made their money? | ||
| Are they asking for an... | ||
| Or is this like, are you Russian? | ||
| Are you rich? | ||
| Well then, I'm stealing your yacht. | ||
| It's very odd. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's kind of weird. | ||
| Like, part of me is like, yeah, fuck those guys. | ||
| And part of me is like, wait, what's happening? | ||
| Like, what are they doing with those yachts? | ||
| Are they going to just take them? | ||
| The government has them now? | ||
| Are they going to sell them? | ||
| Dude, I don't know. | ||
| Who's going to buy them? | ||
| Who's going to buy the Russian yachts? | ||
| Probably hooked up to remote control. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Do you remember when Katrina hit and then there was a little news story that no one really mentioned? | ||
| I didn't really see much about it, but all these Navy-trained dolphins escaped. | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
| I do remember that. | ||
| I do remember that rumor, but I don't remember researching it. | ||
| Don't we need to know more about that? | ||
| Someone just mentioned that? | ||
| What kind of dolphins are out there? | ||
| What did they train them for? | ||
| Well, they definitely trained them to blow up submarines. | ||
| They did. | ||
| Yeah, they trained them to be essentially suicide bombers. | ||
| In a global war on terror, the Navy reportedly began training dolphins to shoot potential terrorists targeting Navy ships. | ||
| But a special investigator claimed that after Hurricane Katrina, a few of those deadly dolphin guards escaped, and the Navy has been looking for them ever since. | ||
| So they got dolphin, armed dolphin assassins. | ||
| It's like a South Park episode. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| Roaming the seas with toxic? | ||
| What is this thing that says there right underneath there, Jamie? | ||
| What does it say toxic? | ||
| Toxic what? | ||
| Toxic dart guns? | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| They've got poison dart guns that they can shoot. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| Look how they're rigged. | ||
| They're rigged up. | ||
| That is fucking insane. | ||
| That is fucking insane. | ||
| They're last seen headed towards St. Bart's. | ||
| Dude, that is so crazy. | ||
| We armed dolphins and taught them to fuck things up. | ||
| Dude, and they like to fuck, I think. | ||
| They also, unfortunately, engage in infanticide. | ||
| They kill the babies. | ||
| That's why female dolphins try to have sex with as many males as possible. | ||
| Because when the female gets pregnant and she gives birth, the baby has to be with her for many years. | ||
| She has to take care of it. | ||
| And she won't breed with other males. | ||
| So males will try to kill her babies, try to get her to breed again. | ||
| So if she has sex with a bunch of males, they're like, oh, those could be my kids. | ||
| And he doesn't do it. | ||
| Dolphins are ruthless. | ||
| Flipper, what the fuck? | ||
| Yeah, what the fuck, dolphins? | ||
| Dude, I was thinking about like... | ||
| I have a conspiracy theory, too, about cats. | ||
| My wife's, like, obsessed with cats, and so is my stepdaughter. | ||
| And I was talking to a buddy of ours, and he's like, oh, yeah, cats, man. | ||
| You know, they got this toxoplasmosis. | ||
| I heard you talking about it a couple weeks ago in here. | ||
| And I was like, yeah, he's like, dude. | ||
| And he was, like, floating this idea that, like, you know, it's a bacteria. | ||
| It enters your brain, but it causes, you know, like, rats to want to go up to... | ||
| They feel safe around cats. | ||
| They want to engage with the cat. | ||
| They actually get excited. | ||
| I started thinking, dude, what if cats actually domesticated people? | ||
| People make statues to the cats. | ||
| The Egyptians worshipped the cats. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Animals are fucking amazing. | ||
| I do kind of think, like, a cat, like, they're cute and cuddly, but the people I know that, like, are cat lovers, like, dude, it's so deep, it's so intense that they get offended when you even float that idea that, like, I've never, like, I've lived with a cat in my house now for years. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| I try not to trip on it, but, like, I don't... | ||
| I would bet that that toxoplasmosis, the same way it tricks a rat and rewires a rat's body, it probably in some ways does exist in a way that the cats sort of domesticate us. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Probably right. | ||
| In some weird way, it's like symbiotic at least. | ||
| They're all connected together. | ||
| They kill the mice around my house. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all cool. | ||
| But I don't touch the litter box. | ||
| But they give that cat shit, and that cat shit has that toxo in it. | ||
| If you get it, you have it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I don't think they can cure that either. | ||
| I mean, think about the stories like, my stepdad bought a house Before I met my mother, and the woman was living in there by herself with like 50 cats. | ||
| Cat piss all over the place. | ||
| Everyone was fine. | ||
| She was fine with that. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Dude, that's not normal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a toxo. | ||
| But it's common. | ||
| Dude, yeah. | ||
| It's very common. | ||
| Imagine if tigers were really smart. | ||
| How fucked would we be? | ||
| They were really smart, like dolphin smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's one thing that we're really lucky about. | ||
| The things that like to kill shit other than humans, they're not that smart. | ||
| They've got good instincts, but if they could change their environment and be that big, we'd be fucked. | ||
| Cats are a weird animal. | ||
| I bought a house near Charleston a couple years ago. | ||
| It's weird living in a place where there's alligators. | ||
| I started golfing recently and it's very unnerving. | ||
| I'm an Ohio kid. | ||
| I'm sitting there and I look over and I'm like, holy shit, there's like a 10-foot fucking You shouldn't be. | ||
| Yeah, but I rented this house in Kiowa Island Right when I was buying this house in Charleston, the key was like a golf kind of wonderland right south of Charleston. | ||
| There's like 10 golf courses and some luxury homes. | ||
| I rented this place. | ||
| I was like, oh man, there's alligators everywhere. | ||
| I should look up. | ||
| When was the last alligator attack? | ||
| And they're like, oh, some woman was killed. | ||
| This is like May of 2020. Someone was killed in Kiowa. | ||
| And it was like two weeks earlier. | ||
| I was like, I wonder where that happened. | ||
| Dude, it happened like 150 feet from the front door of this house. | ||
| I read it. | ||
| This woman was taking a selfie. | ||
| She went to go take a selfie with an alligator, and she apparently took it and walked away, and she's like, that's the last time I'll do that, because it snapped at her, and it apparently went up and... | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they can. | ||
| They don't a lot, but they can. | ||
| They certainly fucking can eat you. | ||
| They've eaten people all the time. | ||
| It's just a weird thing that people are too comfortable around them. | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| Like, they get real close to them and take pictures. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| Just because it's not moving doesn't mean it can't move. | ||
| We have family in St. Augustine, Florida. | ||
| We go there every summer and they've got the alligator farm there. | ||
| It's so awesome. | ||
| It would just scare the shit out of me. | ||
| Getting that close to alligators, man. | ||
| Holding to that dinosaur? | ||
| I lived in Gainesville, Florida for three years. | ||
| And back then we'd throw marshmallows into the lake and they would eat the marshmallows. | ||
| Then eventually they decided that was bad for the alligators, so they asked people to not do it. | ||
| They all got diabetes. | ||
| I mean, I guess it probably isn't good for them, but just to see it. | ||
| Like, how weird it was that there was, I'm like, these things aren't even, like, fenced in. | ||
| This is just a lake. | ||
| I mean, it wasn't, like, some sort of organized park, and this is, oh, they've all got, they're taking care of these alligators. | ||
| No, these are wild alligators, just hanging out. | ||
| There's this amusement park in Ohio called Cedar Point, and there's a carp infestation in Lake Erie. | ||
| You would go up there, and you could buy fish food and throw it in, but we all realized that you just spit in the water, and they jump up, eat your spit. | ||
| But I thought it was really fucking scary that these fish were so ready to eat anything. | ||
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But yeah, the alligator thing, man, And they're nothing compared to crocodiles. | |
| No. | ||
| One of the things they found in the Everglades is Nile crocodiles, and they're really worried that there's a breeding population. | ||
| They don't think there is, but they've definitely found a couple Nile crocodiles. | ||
| Those are the big ones that eat, like, zebras and shit. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| They're hyper-aggressive. | ||
| That's a totally different thing. | ||
| And assholes just let them loose in Florida. | ||
| Dude, there was a bunch of boa constrictors and pythons. | ||
| Pythons. | ||
| They've decimated the Everglades. | ||
| Almost 90-something percent of the mammals that used to live there are gone. | ||
| In terms of their numbers, 90% down deer, 90% down raccoons. | ||
| Everyone's getting fucked. | ||
| They're so big, and they're everywhere. | ||
| They find 19-foot-long ones. | ||
| They used to be people's pets. | ||
| They just let them go. | ||
| And there's so many of them. | ||
| There's a lot of meth there too. | ||
| So much. | ||
| Bad combination. | ||
| Bath salts. | ||
| Giant snakes. | ||
| Jungle snakes that eat everything. | ||
| And meth. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
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Nightmare. | |
| They even eat the alligators down there. | ||
| They find alligators inside their stomachs. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| There's a video of them eating alligators. | ||
| They'll eat anything. | ||
| Pythons are like the ultimate demon. | ||
| Man, I'm just so fucking freaked out. | ||
| This is one this guy caught. | ||
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Look at the size of this fucking thing. | |
| He says, the day I caught the biggest snake of my life in the Florida Evergrades. | ||
| Look at the size of that thing. | ||
| I mean, first of all, that guy's got balls. | ||
| And what a grip he must have. | ||
| Where's the rest of it? | ||
| The rest of it, I don't know. | ||
| Dude, people who love snakes love snakes. | ||
| Look at the size of it. | ||
| Like cat lovers. | ||
| Maybe there's like snake plasmosis. | ||
| Fuck, look how big that thing is. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| And these things eat like a whole deer. | ||
| They'll eat a whole deer. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| So he threw it into a pit. | ||
| I'm going down there. | ||
| Oh my god, this guy's crazy. | ||
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They just said there's killer bees in there too. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| Why not piranhas? | ||
| It should be everything. | ||
| Oh, he just grabs it by its tail. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| This guy's insane. | ||
| You are fucking insane. | ||
| Are you out of your fucking mind? | ||
| What is he in? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| It's like a pit with a snake. | ||
| That's like how he retrieves the snake. | ||
| He has to go into the pit where they've captured this snake and where they're holding it up. | ||
| They built the pit just to catch the snake, or is that like a... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It looks like it. | ||
| It's like a billionaire escape pod. | ||
| Is that where a snake just was? | ||
| Is that like a drainage thing? | ||
| Or is it where they store the snake? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, his name is Iguana Man. | ||
| I think he was brought out to get that somewhere. | ||
| So look at this. | ||
| He gets it all the way to the end and then just fucking snatches it by the head. | ||
| This guy's a savage. | ||
| He's got a UFC shirt on. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| Probably does jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Look how he grabbed that snake. | ||
| He's just holding it like, bitch, you're mine. | ||
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Oh yeah, look, he's got a table on the table. | |
| Holy fuck. | ||
| That's twice as long almost. | ||
| Look at that one. | ||
| That's goddamn insane that something that size is just swimming around in Florida. | ||
| And there's a shit ton of them. | ||
| Fucking hell, man. | ||
| When I lived in this house that was rat-infested... | ||
| God damn it, man. | ||
| We would poison the rats, and then they would get loopy and come out and start walking around with blood coming from their mouth. | ||
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| I would just go to my room and... | ||
| Hide in my room. | ||
| Usually, Dan would be the one to pick him up. | ||
| Remember that time he picked up the rat that was like... | ||
| I mean, he picked it up in the newspaper and the nose and the tail... | ||
| I mean, that thing was like... | ||
| It was like a taco. | ||
| It was like three feet long. | ||
| It was so huge. | ||
| Two and a half feet long. | ||
| You ever see how small the holes are that they can get through? | ||
| That's what's weird. | ||
| They can compress their body and get into these really tight areas. | ||
| That's how they can travel through pipes and shit. | ||
| Like, they really do pop up out of people's toilets sometimes. | ||
| I mean, that's not a fake thing, I don't think. | ||
| I think that's actually happened. | ||
| God, I hope that's happened. | ||
| How's that happened? | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| My mom used to always tell us about that. | ||
| Yeah, a rat's gonna pop by. | ||
| That was always the big myth. | ||
| Is it real? | ||
| Oh my god, there's a rat. | ||
| A rat could really wriggle up your toilet. | ||
| I always wear a cup when I sit down in the toilet. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Stop rats from getting into your toilet. | ||
| Make sure that you leave no food or attractants in the drain. | ||
| Make sure all entry points and drains are sealed. | ||
| And consider placing a drain valve on drains to stop rats from entering the home and thereby getting in the toilet. | ||
| So that's real. | ||
| Rats in your fucking toilet. | ||
| You imagine, middle of the night, gotta take a shed. | ||
| I can imagine it. | ||
| My dad had this friend that lived in D.C. We used to go visit him for spring break and shit, and he had a hot tub and a rec room on the basement floor, and my brother and I were spending the night there, and I was 16 or something like that. | ||
| And I woke up, and I felt something move, and I thought his dog was fucking with my pillow. | ||
| I got up and the dog wasn't there. | ||
| And the pillow started moving across the floor. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| I lifted up the pillow and there was a giant fucking rat. | ||
| I was so fucking scared. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| We ran upstairs and never went back in that room. | ||
| But he found that rat dead actually inside. | ||
| He had a drum set down there. | ||
| It curled up in a kick drum and kicked the bucket. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| But after that they get poisoned, they get loopy and they start walking towards you. | ||
| They also get out and they kill owls that way. | ||
| Because the people that poison the rats, the rats go out and the owls kill them. | ||
| And then the owls get sick and die. | ||
| Yeah, I don't use the poison. | ||
| I just use the cats now around my house. | ||
| But my house in Nashville, too, there's so many owls. | ||
| I feel like I never saw an owl as a kid. | ||
| I see an owl every day. | ||
| They are one of the weirdest like represented animals the way we represent them as this wise Creature in the woods that would like answer questions and have solutions to puzzles Well what they really are is a ruthless fucking killer that's that flies at night and snatches other birds right out of their nest It's surreal when they fly over you because you can't hear them and yeah If you see one during the day and you make eye contact with them, | ||
| they look like they're not expecting to be caught. | ||
| Do you know that story, The Staircase? | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you know the story? | ||
| It was about a man who was accused and sent to jail for killing his wife, but she had talon marks on her head, and now they think that she got hit by an owl outside the house. | ||
| Because there was blood, her own blood, on the stairs and like leading up into the house. | ||
| And then she fell down a flight of stairs. | ||
| And the thought was initially that this guy had did it to his wife. | ||
| But now the new theory is that a fucking owl hit her because they found microscopic owl feathers in her hair. | ||
| And they think it like that's consistent with the kind of injury that she would have had and that she had lost some blood and Came in the house like all fucked up and fell down a flight of stairs. | ||
| He's fucked if that's all his defense came up with But I think they actually found the cut. | ||
| No, I think owls do do that to people I think owls get... | ||
| Like, other birds will whack you in the fucking head. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, they're freaky. | ||
| They've woken me up in the middle of the night. | ||
| Making noise. | ||
| Hunting. | ||
| Hearing in my yard. | ||
| If you're annoying and they're... | ||
| They're humongous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Their fucking heads are beautiful too, aren't they? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yeah, dude, like I said, I feel like I never saw one, but now I live just right outside of the city, just right near this big park, and dude, I see the big ass owls, one of the great... | ||
| Horned something, I think. | ||
| They're fucking massive. | ||
| They're beautiful. | ||
| Like this big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking hell, man. | ||
| When you see one clearly, it's like, whoa. | ||
| It's almost like you shouldn't... | ||
| I shouldn't even be looking at you. | ||
| How am I looking at you? | ||
| You're supposed to be hiding, bro. | ||
| When I turn their head... | ||
| Creepy. | ||
| Fucking insane. | ||
| There's a great video. | ||
| Have you ever seen the night vision video of a hawk nest? | ||
| There's these hawks in the nest and you see this owl come out of the distance and just snatch one of the hawks right out of the nest. | ||
| Can you get that? | ||
| Yeah, it's one of my favorite nature videos. | ||
| I don't remember when I realized that birds kill the birds. | ||
| It was post-internet. | ||
| I never remember being taught that in school. | ||
| Watch this shit. | ||
| I didn't know they eat each other. | ||
| Watch this shit. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Snatch! | ||
| Gotcha, bitch. | ||
| I mean, the kind of force that it takes to do that, if someone hit you in the head like that, and you were coming back from your... | ||
| What kind of bird is that? | ||
| I think that's a hawk. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
| It's not like a pigeon or something. | ||
| No, it's a fairly good-sized animal. | ||
| And this bird just fucks him up. | ||
| He just swings away with him. | ||
| My stepdaughter, she's like a bird fanatic. | ||
| So it's cool because when we're going for a walk or something, she'll know. | ||
| She can tell if it's a falcon because it's some sort of weird tail. | ||
| But it's kind of crazy the amount of species of birds that live in Nashville. | ||
| Also, Charleston's famous for it because Audubon lived there. | ||
| What's that elusive? | ||
| It's extinct, the ivory-billed woodpecker. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Ivory-billed woodpecker? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| There's a woodpecker that no one's seen since the 30s that people are always trying to say that they've seen. | ||
| It's this big fucking woodpecker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ooh, look at that thing. | ||
| So there's this place south of Charleston called the Ace Basin. | ||
| It's where three rivers connect and it's like hundreds of thousands of wetland that's protected. | ||
| There's so many bird species down there, but I guess occasionally someone will say that they've seen this thing, but it hasn't been seen since the 30s. | ||
| I never saw an eagle until I went to Alaska. | ||
| I saw a bald eagle a few years back. | ||
| I remember looking at that thing going, that's our national animal. | ||
| How the fuck? | ||
| How did we pick that thing? | ||
| Like, they're majestic flying assassins. | ||
| Didn't they almost get taken out because of DDT? I don't know what almost got them, but I think lead gets them, too. | ||
| Some of them die from lead poisoning because, like, say someone shoots an animal and doesn't recover it, and they find the lead pellets, they'll eat the animal, and they'll get lead poisoning. | ||
| That happened in the condors, too. | ||
| It's like lead ammunition they're trying to get rid of in some states. | ||
| California's already outlawed it. | ||
| I just saw this thing that basically everybody alive between like 1940 and now has some significant lead poisoning because of the additive of lead to gas. | ||
| So if you're born, I guess born before 85, there still was a lot of... | ||
| In fact, some countries, they're still using leaded gas somewhere in Africa until this year. | ||
| But I guess lead is actually not as common as you would think as far as being... | ||
| It all stemmed from this guy who was trying to figure out the half-life of some uranium or something, and there was this lead everywhere. | ||
| He realized that no matter what he did to his laboratory, that there was lead on everything, contaminated lead. | ||
| And then he realized that the whole world is contaminated with With lead and that like trillions of IQ points have been lost over the human population from everybody having lead poisoning. | ||
| From leaded gas. | ||
| We'd all be a little bit smarter if it weren't for this lead. | ||
| And they knew that it was bad. | ||
| Instead of calling it leaded gas, they named it ethyl. | ||
| Not ethanol. | ||
| They called it ethyl. | ||
| And it raised the octane like It supercharged the gas. | ||
| He created one substance prior that made him stink so bad that he had to live in a different house. | ||
| His wife almost divorced him because he smelled like shit, couldn't get it out. | ||
| And then a couple years later, he realized, oh, I just put a little bit of lead in this gas. | ||
| It's like the octane's like... | ||
| Because the engines were all knocking back then because they were not getting high enough octane. | ||
| So yeah, he fixed it with lead and it just accidentally poisoned the whole world. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| I never even put those two together. | ||
| I never knew that leaded and unleaded gas meant actual lead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I never even thought about it, honestly. | ||
| I didn't even know. | ||
| I just go, what kind do I need? | ||
| That kind. | ||
| What's the good one? | ||
| 93? | ||
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| They put lead in everything back then. | ||
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Paint. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| The paint one's a big one, right? | ||
| Like kids, little kids that ate paint. | ||
| That was always the thing. | ||
| Like kids would make fun of kids in school. | ||
| Dude, my friend's mom bought this Victorian house, and she told all the kids that lived there. | ||
| We were all in our mid-20s. | ||
| She said, if you guys paint the house, you can live there for free this summer. | ||
| So they all decided to scrape and paint the house. | ||
| And after a couple weeks, the cat died. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| And then they realized that they all had lead poisoning. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Send professionals in hazmat suits for that shit. | ||
| I definitely... | ||
| Yeah, lead and asbestos. | ||
| I got hired to do this, to work at this old theater built in the 20s in Akron. | ||
| I got hired to oversee it getting renovated. | ||
| And dude, when I think back about that time, this is right before we started the band, dude, there's just asbestos everywhere in there. | ||
| There's no respirator. | ||
| It's all over Akron. | ||
| Dude, everywhere. | ||
| I was like, this can't be safe. | ||
| They used to have it in the basements of buildings on the pipes. | ||
| Dude, yeah. | ||
| Like, when I wrestled in high school, I was like, did they check these fucking pipes for asbestos? | ||
| Is it illegal? | ||
| Fuck no. | ||
| Probably not, right? | ||
| It's in all the tile. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of those, right? | ||
| There's a lot of those chemicals. | ||
| That's a naturally occurring thing, asbestos. | ||
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Is it really? | |
| You mine it. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a natural fiber. | ||
| Oh, no kidding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But is it cancerous? | ||
| Is the idea that it has to be sealed up or something like that for it to be effective? | ||
| Or does it get in the air? | ||
| The fibers, it gets into the lining of your abdomen and it causes inflammation until it causes cancer, yeah. | ||
| I think that's how it works. | ||
| I'm not a doctor, but I know that there's asbestos mines and stuff like in Canada. | ||
| When I was a kid, I got a lot of construction jobs, and one of them I had to insulate a roof, like crawl in the attic in the crawl space, and use, what is that shit called? | ||
| Pink Panther. | ||
| Yeah, that stuff. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Fiberglass. | ||
| Fiberglass. | ||
| Fiberglass insulation. | ||
| You'd get it everywhere. | ||
| It'd be in your skin. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It's worse. | ||
| You'd just be fucking sweating up there because it was hot, and then the fiberglass would get in your skin. | ||
| It would just stick to you. | ||
| It was just in your... | ||
| You'd look itchy. | ||
| Everything was itchy. | ||
| And if you're breathing that in, how bad is that for you? | ||
| Dude, when we were making this record, we were listening to the Jerky Boys one day. | ||
| That skit where you're like, hey, Jerky. | ||
| He's like, you guys fuck with asbestos? | ||
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Do you fuck with insulation? | |
| I eat the shit. | ||
| Put mustard on it, I eat the shit. | ||
| Fucking amazing, dude. | ||
| Jerky boys were incredible. | ||
| Dude, so fucking good. | ||
| People forgot. | ||
| People forgot how funny those... | ||
| They were the original, like, famous prank call guys. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| They still hold up, too. | ||
| Some of those sketches are fucking hilarious. | ||
| I think they might even be funnier now. | ||
| Especially in post-cancel culture. | ||
| Dude, the one where he calls the Middle Eastern dude that just got molested by the dentist. | ||
| I mean, fucking insane. | ||
| He's like, I wake up my pants unbuttoned. | ||
| They did a couple of movies, too, I think. | ||
| Didn't they do the Jerky Boys movies where they had to save the world by prank calling people? | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Dude, I got way into prank calls for a while. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| I had a couple good ones. | ||
| I was calling KFCs, and then I would be like, hey, I'm calling from corporate. | ||
| We just sent our secret taster out there. | ||
| We'd like to talk to the manager. | ||
| So the taster said everything was great, but they could only taste 10 of the herbs and spices. | ||
| Have you been storing the mix on an aluminum rack in the back? | ||
| You just get really confusing. | ||
| They're like, what, what? | ||
| I was like, because the 11th Urban Spice is actually, it's a caustic chemical if it comes in contact with metal. | ||
| It just confused the shit out of the manager. | ||
| Then I would call back, because I'd feel bad, because I would have the people moving the bags of mix and shit. | ||
| I'd call back, did you just get a call from corporate? | ||
| Yeah, that's actually Popeyes. | ||
| We've been one step behind them all day. | ||
| Fucking with us all day. | ||
| I do the same thing at Olive Garden and be like... | ||
| They're like, so I need you to go into the cooler and remove the word Aran from the breadstick box. | ||
| We've broken the trade embargo. | ||
| And they're like, what? | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| It's on the back. | ||
| Did you record these? | ||
| I have them recorded, yeah. | ||
| Have you ever released them? | ||
| We pranked a record label one time, Warner Brothers. | ||
| We pranked our record label. | ||
| They're like, our record label, Nonsuch, puts out a lot of New Age music, so we call it as a New Age band. | ||
| We had like wind chimes going. | ||
| Our name of their band was like Quartzazium or something. | ||
| We got through like everybody and then... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, the best prank call though I did was... | ||
| This is actually the last time we played SNL. I just didn't want to go out in New York. | ||
| I was nervous about partying, getting sucked into a party. | ||
| So I was like, stay at the hotel and just prank call people. | ||
| So I just prank called a bunch of people. | ||
| And I got on Craigslist and I searched for Egyptian artifact. | ||
| And I found something for sale. | ||
| It was an ancient Egyptian artifact. | ||
| This guy actually in Texas. | ||
| Like near Waco. | ||
| So I call him, and it just goes straight to voicemail, and I leave a message. | ||
| I say, hey, this is Dr. So-and-so from the National Museum of Canada. | ||
| I'm trying to get in touch with you about this artifact. | ||
| And his voicemail specifically said, like, I will not respond to blocked calls or, you know, whatever. | ||
| I called back, left another message, and then my brother was there. | ||
| My brother called. | ||
| He's like, I'm so-and-so's assistant. | ||
| I've been trying to get in touch with you. | ||
| So finally, like, we keep making prank calls, but we keep touching back on this dude. | ||
| And I call, and finally he answers. | ||
| He's like, I know who this is. | ||
| I was like, good, I've been waiting to get in touch with you. | ||
| You have something that we really need. | ||
| And dude, this phone call lasted 40 fucking minutes. | ||
| And I tell him, I was like, this item that you have is something that we've been looking for for decades. | ||
| We've been building a pyramid in the center of Canada for the last 100 years. | ||
| We're nearing completion. | ||
| And when we get your artifact, we will be able to energize this pyramid. | ||
| Are you comfortable with that? | ||
| Are you comfortable with the total shift in global dynamics? | ||
| And are you comfortable with some people, it resulted in total enslavement of certain populations? | ||
| And the dude was like, hell yeah I am! | ||
| Fuck Obama! | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| And I was like, dude, here's how it works. | ||
| Because we're a government organization, I have to offer you $50. | ||
| You can counter offer with any number, but this dude is so confused by what I'm saying. | ||
| I was like, would you accept $50 for this item? | ||
| He's like, hell yeah! | ||
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And I just lose it laughing on the phone. | |
| But dude, the buildup was so intense. | ||
| But that's the shocking thing. | ||
| Are you going to release those? | ||
| I'll send them to you. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| And if someone steals them from my phone, is that a problem? | ||
| That's not a problem. | ||
| If it gets leaked out into the grave? | ||
| No, I'll send them to you. | ||
| But, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine who just does counseling and does assessments of people's intelligence for prisons and stuff, and this person was basically saying that, you know, A higher percentage of the population than you think are just complete idiots. | ||
| No one really acknowledges it, but like... | ||
| Apparently I got in touch with one of them for that prank call. | ||
| But I think, you know, they were saying that, you know, the average IQ in, like, prison is, like, way lower than you would think. | ||
| And that most people who end up in prison, you know, just, they might have lead poisoning or something. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| They might. | ||
| But then that becomes way scarier that, like, people are in prison, not because they've chosen to be a criminal, but because they just... | ||
| Can't think straight. | ||
| Can't think straight. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Listen, I would imagine there's some kind of impact that all that shit has in the environment and how it affects human biology. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| You start mixing someone who's just an idiot with methamphetamines or drugs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then there's dudes who just unfortunately get born with dull brains. | ||
| Their brains just don't work good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've met people like that. | ||
| It just sucks. | ||
| Have you seen this? | ||
| I started watching this documentary on Netflix about this chick that had a vegan restaurant. | ||
| I heard about it. | ||
| I heard it's insane. | ||
| Well, I had to stop watching it after the second episode because my wife and I were watching it. | ||
| But she owns this vegan restaurant called Pure Food and Wine. | ||
| It was like at Union Square in New York. | ||
| And she starts dating this guy who's basically convincing her to wire him money every day, like hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that soon they will be immortal and that her pit bull will live forever. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| So this guy scammed her? | ||
| That's the story? | ||
| But honestly, she might deserve to have been scammed if she believed this shit. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
| I had to stop watching it because she kept sending this guy money and he kept talking about how they were going to live forever. | ||
| People get sucked into stupid shit, man. | ||
| It doesn't seem to be that hard to get them either. | ||
| There's plenty of people that get sucked into stupid shit. | ||
| Dude, I got real obsessed with that Peter Popoff guy. | ||
| He's like a TV evangelist who would get caught scamming people. | ||
| He would have a wire in his ear, and someone would read it. | ||
| They'd ask everybody that came into his revivals, like, what's your name? | ||
| What's your age? | ||
| What's your ailment? | ||
| Why are you here? | ||
| And then these people wouldn't think twice about putting it on a card, and then he would say, is there someone here named... | ||
| Esibel. | ||
| Sharon? | ||
| Do you have a sick parent? | ||
| People would watch this, just send this guy tons of money, man. | ||
| He made millions of dollars. | ||
| Then he got busted, and now he's back on, you can find him on infomercials. | ||
| He's selling holy water. | ||
| He sells you holy water. | ||
| If you give him money, and also it helps, his thing's all, he has a lot of people on there who are like, oh yeah, I gave Peter, I gave the mission $100, and then I won the lottery. | ||
| Because this whole thing is like Jesus will give you rewards if you donate now. | ||
| Even if you're broke. | ||
| Yeah, he's driving around in a Porsche. | ||
| That's how you're going to get your money. | ||
| You've got to give up all your money, and then Jesus is going to give back to tenfold. | ||
| That's essentially what this guy was doing on the vegan thing. | ||
| He was like, give me this money, and then you're going to get $100,000 a month for the rest of your life, and you'll be immortal. | ||
| People want to believe stupid shit. | ||
| I got super fascinated with that story of that woman, Elizabeth Holmes, who made that Theranos company where they developed a blood test that didn't work at all. | ||
| It just takes your finger prick and it scans you for a bunch of different diseases, but apparently it didn't work. | ||
| It's a wild fucking story. | ||
| It's like listening to the amount of people that invested in the amount of money They invested like big-time people. | ||
| Oh, yeah, but hundreds of millions of dollars into this And now it's all just vaporware. | ||
| It's nothing and now she's on trial Yeah, I mean I've seen different people fall for tons of different shit Well, that's how cults get started like those the cults where they brand you There's a certain amount of people that want to belong so badly. | ||
| Or I wonder if it's also people with lead poisoning, or I wonder if it's also people who are medicated. | ||
| Maybe all of the above. | ||
| I mean, making bad decisions based on what other people think, you think what other people think you should do, I think it's pretty common. | ||
| Super common. | ||
| I mean, when we started the band, there was definitely decisions that we were making based on what we thought other people thought we should do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At one point we got offered, you know, to put a Song in a mayonnaise commercial in the UK. Keep in mind, we might have had a couple hundred dollars in our bank account. | ||
| We were destitute. | ||
| And we didn't have... | ||
| There was no other lifeline. | ||
| It was like, this is our livelihood. | ||
| And we were convinced fully by someone who was working with us as a manager that if we took that money and we had a song in that commercial that we would be branded as sellouts and that we would no longer have a career. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So we didn't. | ||
| And then we eventually learned to like... | ||
| It was like we were brainwashed. | ||
| We were brainwashed. | ||
| Because we were making records by ourselves in our basement on absolutely no budget. | ||
| This guy lived in a multi-million dollar house in a big major city and he was the one telling us what... | ||
| I was just like, aye aye aye. | ||
| But yeah, you know. | ||
| Is that a real dilemma? | ||
| Like, when an artist gets an offer to sell a song for something like Hot Dogs, but it's a shitload of money, what is the thought process that happens? | ||
| It seems like it was a thing when we started. | ||
| It doesn't matter at all anymore. | ||
| It doesn't seem like it. | ||
| So no one cares anymore? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| They shouldn't care when it happens. | ||
| It doesn't ruin the original song. | ||
| I think certain songs were ruined by commercials. | ||
| Oh, they made a parody of it? | ||
| I heard it through the grapevine, I think. | ||
| Oh, that's a rough one. | ||
| There's a problem there. | ||
| Although, I still love the song still. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's true, though. | ||
| You do now have to think about the grapes dancing around. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think about the grapes, man. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm glad you're there. | ||
| I don't really either. | ||
| I think as long as you're uncomfortable with it. | ||
| But we were definitely convinced multiple times. | ||
| One thing we were told not to do was it was a Kate Moss jewelry commercial. | ||
| It was like Kate Moss dancing around scantily clad. | ||
| And we were told, once again, we'd be a sellout for doing that. | ||
| And we didn't. | ||
| Or our manager had passed on it without asking us. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
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| Dude. | ||
| I've done a total 180 after you brought up the grapes. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Yeah, it can fuck up a song, I guess. | ||
| I didn't think it could. | ||
| I didn't think selling it to a commercial could, and then I thought about the grapes. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| I think it's not so much the commercial as much as that commercial was omnipresent. | ||
| It was overexposure. | ||
| Hearing a song enough will make it a hit song. | ||
| I'm convinced. | ||
| You can put any song, pipe it through every Walgreens, and it's going to become a hit. | ||
| How about that really big cock song? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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You can see people dancing to it. | |
| Definitely in France or somewhere where they don't speak English. | ||
| They'll be like, oh, don't hear that cock song. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, what makes a hit today because of the fact that radio is not the big driver anymore? | ||
| What is the biggest driver of Record sales or of streams of like how do people find out about stuff now most I mean, there's this a kind of punk garage rock musician Who goes by the name King Kong on the barbecue show. | ||
| He actually has the second most tick-tocked song right now, which is amazing. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So I don't know if that, but I don't know. | ||
| I don't think any of those analytics work anymore to determine what's happening. | ||
| I don't think anybody really knows what's going on. | ||
| Say if you're an artist, you're talented. | ||
| How the fuck does it get out there? | ||
| That's what we've wondered. | ||
| I don't know, but you know what's interesting to me is how many musicians are selling their publishing. | ||
| We're always told, oh yeah, record sales, no one's buying records, but then you see these people selling their publishing for $150 million, $500 million. | ||
| Bruce Springsteen just sold everything for half a billion dollars. | ||
| He wants a submarine, son. | ||
| He wants that submarine. | ||
| He wants that submarine money. | ||
| There's a lot of inflation. | ||
| He's not getting shit now. | ||
| He's gonna be up there dressed like Toneta, just dancing on his fucking giant yacht. | ||
| Half a billion dollars is a crazy amount of money. | ||
| But I guess, you know, what is Bruce Springsteen like in his 60s somewhere? | ||
| I don't know, my friend said he's the only working class hero who wants to be known as the boss. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| He had a podcast with Obama for a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's some St. Bart's shit. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| That's some Bohemian Grove shit. | ||
| But the St. Bart's thing, don't you think all those super ballers, they're the only people that will understand them as other super ballers, and so they have to meet somewhere like a super ballers club? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| I mean, it kind of makes sense that when you get into that oligarch realm of uber wealth and you have a $1.6 billion yacht, you probably don't have a lot of peers. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I definitely felt like we were like the court jester for the week. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We played our music. | ||
| It was fine. | ||
| People were cool. | ||
| But it was, the weird thing was just looking out at the harbor there and seeing that there were like hundreds and hundreds of these huge, yeah, it was crazy. | ||
| Did you see any eyes wide shut type shit? | ||
| I definitely, there were definitely, you know what, I smoked, Rihanna was there, and she was like, do you want to hit this joint? | ||
| She handed me the joint, and I was like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't really smoke weed. | ||
| She's like, not forced, but she's like, try it. | ||
| And I took my hit and she just started laughing at me because she knew what was about to happen to me. | ||
| And I was just like... | ||
| You have to say yes. | ||
| I definitely said yes. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| Definitely got really high. | ||
| It wasn't as... | ||
| I should have freaked out a little bit more considering I thought it was cool. | ||
| But yeah, it was like that. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| It was really bizarre. | ||
| So when all those very wealthy people and famous people get together, are they having fun at all, or do they still seem uptight all together? | ||
| Everybody seemed chill. | ||
| There was definitely a lot of, like, girls who were flown in there to hang out Epstein style or whatever. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| There were girls around. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess that's the ultimate form of keep up with the Joneses, right? | ||
| To have that kind of wealth and have a yacht and multiple yachts. | ||
| Some of these guys, they're on their one yacht and they're trying to hide their second yacht. | ||
| And they've already, you know, confiscated one and they're going after the second one. | ||
| They have to cruise it around. | ||
| Yeah, I think they're constantly upgrading to get that big yacht. | ||
| So, is the idea that all these oligarchs... | ||
| The spaceship is the new yacht. | ||
| It's not just oligarchs. | ||
| I think David Geffen has the second or third biggest yacht on Earth. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And he had the fourth. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Have you ever seen the Steve Jobs yacht? | ||
| He had a yacht that looked like a fucking Apple store. | ||
| It really did. | ||
| It looked like it was an Apple store floating around. | ||
| You're like, oh yeah, of course that's Steve Jobs. | ||
| It's pretty cool looking. | ||
| It's the coolest looking yacht I've ever seen. | ||
| But I think that's what those people feel like they have to do. | ||
| They get to that level of wealth. | ||
| It's just, you know, you hear Mike got a 196-foot yacht. | ||
| Dude, we need to show up with, like, a 400-foot party barge. | ||
| You know you need to show up with one of those Mississippi River boats. | ||
| You know? | ||
| There's one of those in Nashville that works. | ||
| Those things are cool as fuck. | ||
| They're amazing. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I'm asking. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
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It looks like it. | |
| I think that's it. | ||
| Doesn't it look like an Apple store? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| And it's beautiful. | ||
| And it's all run by IMAX. The screens inside are all IMAX. Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would be so fucking annoyed. | ||
| Just trying to shut the blinds. | ||
| A lot of glass in there. | ||
| It's just that world is a fucking strange world. | ||
| Helicopter pads and swimming pools. | ||
| And now these guys are... | ||
| Does that yacht come with that U2 record on it? | ||
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I can't get rid of it. | |
| Was that a bad move? | ||
| It was a bad move, right? | ||
| To do that. | ||
| You don't want to force your music on someone that way, right? | ||
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I don't... | |
| We would. | ||
| I'd be happy to be on that Manuel Noriega playlist. | ||
| Oh, the one that they blasted at him when he was in Panama when they were trying to extract him? | ||
| Dude, someone compiled it on Spotify. | ||
| I downloaded it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Every song that they blasted at Noriega. | ||
| I'm like, dude, it'd be cool to get on that list. | ||
| The CIA's annoyance list. | ||
| What kind of bands were on there? | ||
| Dude, it's very chaotic, which is, I think, why it was so effective. | ||
| It's got everything from Frank Sinatra, I think, to Van Halen. | ||
| Didn't they have animal noises, too? | ||
| Did they play wild noises? | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Here we got. | ||
| Billy Joel. | ||
| You got another thing coming from Judas Priest. | ||
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Nice. | |
| 50 ways to leave your lover. | ||
| All over but the crying. | ||
| Georgia Satellites. | ||
| All I want is you, YouTube. | ||
| Big shot. | ||
| Billy Joel. | ||
| Blue-collar man from Styx. | ||
| Born to run. | ||
| Bruce Springsteen. | ||
| Cleaning up the town. | ||
| Do you think this offended the artist when they found out, like Kenny Loggins, when he found out that Danger Zone from Top Gun, original soundtrack, was on the fucking... | ||
| Let's try to figure out what song it was that played when he just came out. | ||
| Like, fuck this. | ||
| this. | ||
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I can't tell you. | |
| What do you think? | ||
| Oh, it could be that. | ||
| Two kids in the block, hanging tough. | ||
| That's it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm a closet Heaven's on Fire fan. | ||
| I love that Kiss song. | ||
| I fought the law. | ||
| Iron Man, Black Sabbath. | ||
| Wow, a lot of fucking songs. | ||
| That's not a bad fucking... | ||
| Midnight Rider, the Allman Brothers? | ||
| That's a great goddamn song. | ||
| That Ecstasy song is a pretty hip choice. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I love Midnight Rider. | ||
| It's such a good song. | ||
| Rick Astley just started following me on Instagram. | ||
| I don't know what it means, but... | ||
| It means he likes your music. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you think it means? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it's not really him. | ||
| I'm about to get Rick rolled. | ||
| I sent him a DM, yeah. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Like, dude, this becomes a part of a thing that they do to you. | ||
| You click on links. | ||
| Him and the guy with the giant hog that's, like, sitting on the edge of the bed. | ||
| That they would always, you know, like, send you some link about some breakthrough discovery. | ||
| Like, whoa, what is this guy? | ||
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Oh, you son of a bitch. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Poor guy. | ||
| Him and the Rick Roll thing. | ||
| Dude, you know what we were thinking about the other day? | ||
| Just about that Gerardo Rivero special? | ||
| Which one? | ||
| The one from the mid-80s. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Al Capone's tomb. | ||
| It's one of my earliest TV memories. | ||
| Somehow at six years old, I knew who Al Capone was. | ||
| We're going to watch Al Capone's tomb get opened up. | ||
| Dude, that was like the ultimate Rickroll. | ||
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Everybody watched that shit. | |
| It was so stupid. | ||
| It was like he crawled through and there was nothing in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they did it all live. | ||
| Absolutely nothing. | ||
| Geraldo had a gorgeous head of hair, though. | ||
| We should have known when this aired, we should have known that we were just... | ||
| All being fucked with. | ||
| Geraldo was the guy who put the Kennedy assassination on television. | ||
| The Zapruder tape? | ||
| Yeah, with Dick Gregory. | ||
| Dick Gregory brought it to Geraldo. | ||
| Yeah, it's the first time it ever aired. | ||
| Like, more than a decade after the assassination. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That tape's crazy, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| I had Oliver Stone in here, and he was explaining... | ||
| Oliver Stone is balls deep in the JFK conspiracy. | ||
| I mean, balls deep. | ||
| He can quote you different, you know... | ||
| Different hearings that were held, where the evidence was acquired, why the timeline's wrong in the way they printed into the evidence sheet, and how this guy couldn't have been there because he was three hours away. | ||
| He can just rattle it off to you. | ||
| The man's obsessed with it. | ||
| This is decades after he made a movie about it. | ||
| It's like being on tour with Pat in the minivan. | ||
| Did you get into that at all? | ||
| Did you ever get into the JFK assassination? | ||
| When I was a kid, yeah. | ||
| Around that time, the Oliver Stone movie came out. | ||
| But I think it's weird that... | ||
| Now, isn't somehow Woody Harrelson's father and Ted Cruz's father implicated somehow? | ||
| Woody Harrelson's father was definitely implicated. | ||
| Woody Harrelson's father was a bad dude. | ||
| And they say that he was one of the guys that was in the grassy knoll. | ||
| That was the rumor. | ||
| Woody Harrelson's father, I think he was convicted of some violent offense. | ||
| What did Rudy Howells' dad do? | ||
| Convicted of assassinating a federal judge. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, that's not outside the realm of possibility. | ||
| It's a guy who got convicted of assassinating a judge? | ||
| There's this legendary DJ in England who passed away in 2004, but his name was John Peel. | ||
| And he had this cool program. | ||
| He would have bands come and record their songs, and it was called a Peel Session, and we were lucky enough to get to meet him and be on his show three or four times, all very early in our career. | ||
| And he actually died of a heart attack after climbing Montepicchu. | ||
| But the first time we hung out with him, he was like, you know, I was there when Jack Ruby shot Oswald. | ||
| He was one of the press guys covering it. | ||
| Yeah, he was like, it was so surreal. | ||
| And every time I watched that footage, I was looking for John Peele. | ||
| He was there, but I mean, how fucking crazy is that? | ||
| He was able to get to him, shoot him. | ||
| I mean, it's pretty safe. | ||
| Just run right up on him. | ||
| Dude, it's nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, you know, he went crazy after that. | ||
| He's also a part of the LSD thing. | ||
| LSD shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jolly West visited him in jail. | ||
| And afterwards, he was inconsolable, lying on the ground, curled up, talking about people getting burned alive. | ||
| They dosed him in prison, right? | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, I think that guy was, you know, whatever. | ||
| They probably told him if you whack Ruby, we'll take care of some debt that you owe or something like that. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Or if you whack Oswald, we'll take care of some debt. | ||
| And he did it in front of the whole fucking world. | ||
| Walked up to Oswald and shot him while he's being held by cops. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| Dude, imagine the conspiracies that would be happening if that video wasn't running then. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| If you couldn't see it on film, the guy would just run up to Lee Harvey Oswald and just shoot him in the stomach. | ||
| And then the guy has all these ties to the mob, and he goes fucking completely loony in jail. | ||
| And he's dead a short amount of time later. | ||
| He's dead from cancer. | ||
| Yeah, within four or five years. | ||
| They probably just... | ||
| What causes cancer? | ||
| Polonium 238, whatever it is. | ||
| What do they use in the Russian guys? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| I think that's what it is. | ||
| They poisoned a lot of them, right? | ||
| But people have been, you know, Putin's enemies have been assassinated openly. | ||
| It's like a lead isotope, I think, or it's polonium-238. | ||
| It's like a little micro, like apparently... | ||
| I read that a lot of lung cancer from smoking, actually it comes from long-term dosage of little bits of polonium, because it actually, small amounts end up in fertilizer. | ||
| So you smoke the fucking tobacco, little bits accumulate in your lungs, and it can cause carbon radiation in your lungs. | ||
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Really? | |
| Where'd you read this? | ||
| Dude, I didn't graduate college, so don't, like... | ||
| I barely got through high school. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| That sounds really good. | ||
| It sounds fucking good. | ||
| Print it. | ||
| Well, people have always wondered about that with, like, Roundup. | ||
| Like, that glyphosate stuff. | ||
| Then, like, if that gets onto crops and even if it's washed off, like, how much of that gets into your body? | ||
| Is it an insignificant amount? | ||
| Is it okay in small doses? | ||
| Or is it never okay? | ||
| My grandpa died from... | ||
| He was like a handyman and would do lawns and stuff like that. | ||
| And he used to mix the fertilizer and the water with his hand every day. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He just got cancer throughout his whole body. | ||
| I just can imagine. | ||
| I've heard a bunch of horror stories about dudes who... | ||
| For years he did that. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Golfers who keep teas in their mouth. | ||
| Because right where you put your tea, there's people always dumping the grass fertilizer mixture. | ||
| It's just all heavy metals. | ||
| And people who've been golfing for a long time hit their ball, put their tea in their mouth to get... | ||
| Lip cancer or gum cancer. | ||
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Really? | |
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh, that's horrible. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| But it makes sense. | ||
| I knew a dude who lived next to a golf course and he got bone cancer. | ||
| And they had to replace his thigh bone with, like, his femur with, like, a chunk of metal, like an artificial metal bone. | ||
| And a bunch of people in his neighborhood got cancer. | ||
| And they traced it to pesticides in the golf course leaking into the water supplies. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| This dude we grew up with, he got bone cancer, like, in his knee when he was in his mid-20s. | ||
| And, you know, the doctor, he had this one doctor finally, he's like, dude, like, we're going to do a panel, like, on you for heavy metals because this is really strange. | ||
| And he had, like, large doses of cadmium or something in his bones. | ||
| And he's like, man, did you, like, grow up... | ||
| Near like a gold mine or something? | ||
| He's like, no, man. | ||
| And then he was talking to his mom about it. | ||
| His mom's like, actually, we lived on a commune when you were a baby for like a year in Colorado that used to be a gold mine. | ||
| So like they were drinking this water where they had already filtered in all the heavy metals and apparently he got like serious dosage of some rare earth shit. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
| That's what I wonder about, like, with all the... | ||
| I mean, like I said, I never went to college, really, but I wonder, like, what... | ||
| You know, with all the electric vehicles and, like, you know... | ||
| Getting all these rare earth minerals together, all this lithium and cadmium and these batteries. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I wonder what happens eventually to that shit. | ||
| The weird thing is that people want to say it's zero emission. | ||
| This idea that that's the solution, that that's going to fix it for us if we all have electric cars. | ||
| Because you've got to have to power that electricity. | ||
| Until we figure out how to make clean electrical power, I mean, if you have clean electrical power, it's like modern nuclear, and it works really well, and it's relatively less toxic. | ||
| I mean, you have some nuclear waste that they have to dispose of, but apparently they're pretty good at that now, and if they can make a reactor that can function and not go down, if they can do that, that's clean. | ||
| And then you have an electric car, and then you're clean. | ||
| But otherwise, you have to find some way to make that fucking power to juice up that battery. | ||
| So it's like, how are you juicing up that battery? | ||
| Because you're still using up a lot of power to do that. | ||
| So where's the power coming from? | ||
| So if it's coming from a place that's sustainable, if it's electric and it's coming from the wind and turbines and fucking solar panels, great. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| That seems perfect. | ||
| But what if it's coming from a coal plant? | ||
| Like, hey. | ||
| The fuck? | ||
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This is the opposite of good. | |
| Those fucking places, like, I had a climate scientist on, he was talking about this area in Indiana that has, like, a bunch of coal-fired power plants in the area, and these people, they just have, like, a thin layer of this shit on their car every day. | ||
| Like, this dust that's in the air. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Where we're from in Akron, Ohio, it was the rubber capital of the world. | ||
| Goodyear was based there. | ||
| Goodyear is still based there. | ||
| Goodyear, Firestone, B.F. Goodrich, General Tire, Kelly Tire, Mohawk Tire. | ||
| Every tire company was in Akron. | ||
| We went to Firestone High School. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| How did it become a tire mega? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it was... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't really know. | ||
| But that's why my family's there. | ||
| My grandfather, he worked in the R&D. He's Vice President of Research and Development for the Polymers of Goodyear, working on like... | ||
| We figured out how to keep polymers viscous enough to strand it into a plastic bottle, essentially. | ||
| That's what was going on. | ||
| But my dad said as a kid, they would wake up and the whole city would just be covered in soot. | ||
| And so when we were starting the band, There was, like, the cheapest kind of place you could find to be loud was these old rubber factories. | ||
| And there was this one that we rented a room in. | ||
| It was an old BF Goodrich... | ||
| No, it was an old General... | ||
| General. | ||
| It was an old General Tire building. | ||
| And, like, you know, this was, like, a building that's, like, a million square feet built in, like, turn of the century... | ||
| Full of asbestos and whatever else. | ||
| Yeah, scary shit. | ||
| Scary shit. | ||
| You would walk up the stairs and I'd be like, that doesn't feel right. | ||
| You could feel the thick air. | ||
| And we made a record there aptly titled Rubber Factory. | ||
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A bunch of geniuses. | |
| But... | ||
| It was crazy because there's the old boardrooms and we had access to this whole abandoned essentially building where we would like string microphone cables together and we'd like set an amp at one side of the room and then microphone like hundreds of feet away to get the natural kind of reverb. | ||
| But the craziest thing was like around the corner from the area we hung out in, there was this just like exploded laboratory, like straight out of like Rick and Morty or something. | ||
| It was like, wait, what the fuck? | ||
| What is going on in here? | ||
| There were eyewash stations. | ||
| Someone had just blown their face off. | ||
| And then you'd walk down this scary-ass hallway that was just... | ||
| Neither of us wanted to be there at night. | ||
| It was so scary. | ||
| It was scary. | ||
| And there's this little, so like there's the more industrial section of the building down at the other end, and there are these holes like through the floor. | ||
| And this is like foot-deep concrete. | ||
| You can see down that there were like thousands and thousands of tires in like basically like Gerardo's like, Al Capone's vault of tires. | ||
| There was like this hidden cache of unsold tires from before. | ||
| They just left in the building. | ||
| They tore that building down like a couple years ago. | ||
| We used to eat at this diner right across the street from it. | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| It was called The Lamp Post. | ||
| And we were the only people in there. | ||
| We never saw anybody else in there. | ||
| Dude, it might have been like a... | ||
| Ghost world. | ||
| It could have been a mirage. | ||
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Ghost world. | |
| Ghost world. | ||
| That's what it feels like. | ||
| The building's not even there anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you go into an area, like an industrialized area where the buildings are fucked, like Detroit, when everything's like shattered and you're driving through abandoned lots. | ||
| I mean, we came from Akron, which was crazy, but the first time we went to Detroit, it was so eye-opening. | ||
| There's that one building downtown where you just see directly through it because just all the windows are blown out. | ||
| It's a skyscraper. | ||
| We didn't know anybody in Detroit, and we were just driving around during the afternoon because, you know, we got... | ||
| We would go to the shows like hours too early, just because we didn't know what we were doing. | ||
| And we'd end up being in downtown where nobody is, driving around all day long, looking at all this destruction. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Detroit feels like it looks. | ||
| Dan got on stage that night and was like, Like, how do you guys live here? | ||
| Or something. | ||
| And everyone was like, fuck you. | ||
| Left the room. | ||
| Yeah, they turned around and just walked away. | ||
| It feels like a place that used to be hopping and then got crushed. | ||
| Center of the universe. | ||
| But they do have some comeback now. | ||
| I love Detroit. | ||
| They have like Shinola, the company's there. | ||
| They have a lot of people that are proud of Detroit. | ||
| It's coming back in a big way. | ||
| The buildings are beautiful. | ||
| But it's weird having those crushed dreams all around you. | ||
| That's just a weirdness that's unavoidable about Detroit. | ||
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It's the Rust Belt, man. | |
| That's how we grew up. | ||
| All of the cities, Steubenville, Akron, Pittsburgh. | ||
| You ever see Roger and Me? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| It's a great documentary about that. | ||
| You're forced to watch that when you're a kid in Akron. | ||
| When they're out there grilling rabbits. | ||
| It's weird how you see exactly what caused it. | ||
| You're like, wow, what must that have been like for someone who moved there and moved your family there and thought, this is where we live, everything's great, everything's going great, and then companies start pulling out. | ||
| That's what we grew up in, because when we were kids, we would go down, my dad would take us, my dad wrote for the Akron Beacon Journal, the newspaper, which was this prestigious newspaper, started by John S. Knight, who went on to start Knight Ritter, and he had an office there, you know, this guy, the legendary newspaper guy, and this was, you know, the newspaper won, like, Pulitzer Prizes, and I just remember people just getting laid off from there. | ||
| Us going downtown and downtown Akron when we were kids, there was a pawn shop and a porn theater. | ||
| That was what downtown was. | ||
| The downtown Akron adult cinema. | ||
| Yeah, I got jumped on Main Street one time. | ||
| In front of the bar that we play at. | ||
| We just played the show and he got his ass kicked. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| That whole area used to be one of the richest cities in the country. | ||
| That's what was cool for us, because we got to exploit that in terms of musical equipment. | ||
| Because there was such a middle class there in the 60s and 70s, that by the time we got into music in the mid-90s, everyone had grown up and sold their instruments. | ||
| So you go down to the little music shop, and you could find a vintage Fender guitar for a couple hundred bucks. | ||
| You would find these prizes. | ||
| And every kid that we knew who got into music had their prize thing. | ||
| Oh yeah, this guy has this 1965 Telecaster he got for like 100 bucks. | ||
| Dan had this cool amp, this old Ampeg Gemini 1 that was like this magical sounding amplifier he got probably for Peanuts. | ||
| And it was the whole sound of the band for the first two records really, that amp. | ||
| It's just crazy that one industry could just completely cripple a city if it decides to move out. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's pretty wild that they can just do that. | ||
| They can just pull the plug on the economics of the city. | ||
| It's pretty wild that they would do that, too. | ||
| I wonder if they knew the ultimate result, whether or not they would have done it. | ||
| Well, I mean, the unions were getting kind of crazy. | ||
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In what way? | |
| The jobs that you were... | ||
| I mean, it's not crazy, but the demands were high and they were being met until finally they realized they didn't have to meet them. | ||
| But I know that, like, the work week in Akron at a rubber factory was 36 hours. | ||
| It was six-hour days, six days a week. | ||
| and you were basically guaranteed like the equivalent of 70 grand a year out of high school. | ||
| So it was like amazing. | ||
| But like they kept raising that and eventually they first moved down to like the right to work states where like unionizing was nearly impossible. | ||
| So we're in Nashville now. | ||
| Ironically, Firestone got bought by Bridgestone, moved to Nashville. | ||
| So they were they were had six days a week. | ||
| You were committed to work six hours a day. | ||
| That was their move? | ||
| So they could get more shifts in. | ||
| The union demanded that, so they could have more workers pay more union dues. | ||
| Did you have to work six days a week? | ||
| That was the work week. | ||
| 36 hours. | ||
| So that way it allowed them to have four shifts a day rather than three. | ||
| So there were all these cool bars when we were kids that were abandoned. | ||
| They were out of business but they were designed for the workers who got off at 6 in the morning. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| How fucking depressing would that be to be stuck in a job like that where you're working six days a week? | ||
| Making bank though. | ||
| So is that the problem? | ||
| Is it the union workers wanted too much money to make the cars and that's why they pulled them out? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it was the unions themselves that were getting overly demanding, you know. | ||
| But, you know, of course, you know, unions are important, you know. | ||
| Without it, people get fucked. | ||
| I know, like, right now, people are trying to unionize Amazon and watch, like, people are getting fucked trying to do that. | ||
| But I think that you have to. | ||
| There's just a fine line, you know, of what, Because there was an out. | ||
| Goodyear had an out. | ||
| Or Firestone had an out. | ||
| They could ultimately say, we're going to make this shit in Mexico. | ||
| It was a bipartisan thing that happened. | ||
| It was Republicans and Democrats both basically fucking the worker who allowed those companies to leave. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And so once those tires were first manufactured in the South, then they manufactured in Mexico and other places, and it got rid of all the manufacturing jobs, you know? | ||
| But if they had it, I guess tires would be like $1,000 a tire now or something. | ||
| Well, maybe. | ||
| But what is going on in these countries where they set up shop? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| No one asked about that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How bad is it fucking up their environment? | ||
| Oh, my friend worked for Ralph Lauren. | ||
| Doing a gene, signing jeans and stuff. | ||
| And they did all their dyeing and stuff in Texas, or in China. | ||
| He said it was like fucking so toxic and like the waste and he said the conditions of the factories are just so crazy and you know like suicide watch on people and That's one of the wildest things, is that all of our phones come from those places. | ||
| All of our phones that everybody has. | ||
| That NBA dude, he tweeted some support for Hong Kong. | ||
| What was that whole thing? | ||
| A Houston Rockets guy? | ||
| A coach or something? | ||
| Tweeted some support for Taiwan or Hong Kong or something. | ||
| When LeBron said he didn't know what he was talking about. | ||
| Do you remember this? | ||
| I do vaguely, but I don't follow basketball, but Jamie follows it closely. | ||
| Do you remember what happened? | ||
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Sorta. | |
| I don't really remember exactly what went down. | ||
| I do know that LeBron, I heard from someone that works with him, he pulls down tens and tens of millions of dollars a year from Chinese sales of basketball shoes in China. | ||
| Not just the manufacturing, but in China. | ||
| There's such a huge market there. | ||
| Well, you know, we've seen that in movies, right? | ||
| They've altered movies. | ||
| They altered Doctor Strange to change the female or to change his master. | ||
| The teacher of magic was a Tibetan guy in the comic books. | ||
| They made it a female who was like European. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like they just completely changed the whole thing because they don't recognize Tibet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They were offended by having a Tibetan, which is what it was initially. | ||
| So they have to change the scripts of comic books to appease this market that makes them shitloads of money. | ||
| It's fucking weird, man. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| But all of our phones are made there. | ||
| Like, if you think of all of our phones... | ||
| And we're ready to do a soundtrack for them, too. | ||
| Apple, holler at your boy. | ||
| I was taking through the jean capital of the world. | ||
| This picture is crazy. | ||
| I don't know if that's exactly what it's saying it is, but it might be. | ||
| It looks like it's jean dye going through a river. | ||
| Denim pollution in... | ||
| How do you say that word? | ||
| Xingtang? | ||
| Xingtang? | ||
| The blue jean capital of the world. | ||
| That's fucked. | ||
| Yeah, this article said, uh, it's so polluted they can't give away houses. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| Like, is that what it takes to make nice jeans? | ||
| Like, when people are buying jeans, and they're buying jeans, look at the low cost of these jeans. | ||
| Is that what we're paying for? | ||
| Are we fucking poisoning some part of the world? | ||
| Instead of just having ethical manufacturing? | ||
| I don't know, man, but buying this house in South Carolina, you know, you start realizing, like, how, you know, it's like the first time I've really, you know, seen, like, you know, how extensive slave labor was in the U.S., you know, it's insane. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| I mean, like, the rice, the rice, You know, Charleston back in the day. | ||
| I mean, fucking hell. | ||
| They grew a lot of indigo, and dude, it was like fucking crazy to see what the fuck was going on. | ||
| I mean, do you want to talk about one of the scariest aspects of human history? | ||
| Is that for as long as we can remember, people have been stealing people and forcing people to work for them. | ||
| From the beginning of time. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Slavery's in the fucking Bible. | ||
| You talk about slavery. | ||
| It's just a horrible aspect of human beings that they're capable of doing that to other people. | ||
| I was golfing. | ||
| There's this cool little golf course on Charleston Harbor, and it's just huge shipping container ships, whatever they're called. | ||
| Cargo ships. | ||
| Cargo ships. | ||
| Giant fucking ships coming in. | ||
| And I was golfing with a buddy of mine who used to be Coast Guard Intelligence. | ||
| And out of nowhere, he's like, oh man, you'd be shocked if you knew how many people were on that boat right now. | ||
| And I was like, what do you mean, like the crew? | ||
| He's like, no dude. | ||
| In the fucking containers. | ||
| He's like, dude, it's shocking. | ||
| He's like, I bet there's over a dozen people on that boat right now in those containers. | ||
| So there's always people in the container. | ||
| That's what he was saying, dude. | ||
| And do they die in there sometimes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| So they just take the risk. | ||
| How long is the boat ride? | ||
| Well, pre-COVID it would be a couple weeks, but then shit got, I don't know. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And so no one opened the crates. | ||
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I hadn't even thought about that. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| No one opened the crates because they were stuck at sea and they starved to death in the box. | ||
| That's what he was saying. | ||
| Holy shit, dude. | ||
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I know. | |
| Now every time I see one, I'm like, ay, ay, ay, man. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Imagine that's the way you go out, starving to death, in a box, waiting to go to a better life. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| The shit timing of that. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's one of the weirdest things about the world today, right? | ||
| Is that, like, the world today that we think of the world today is just right here. | ||
| Like, there's a lot of parts of the world that are fucked sideways. | ||
| The apocalypse has happened already. | ||
| It's just not happening right here. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But it's in spots. | ||
| I see, you know, of course, on social media, this, like, people's shit talking to the United States or whatever. | ||
| I'm just like, aye, aye, aye, man. | ||
| Go move near where that blue jean factory is fucking changing the river. | ||
| Clearly, you haven't traveled enough to know. | ||
| Of course, the U.S. is flawed, as every place can be, but, dude, we were very lucky to have been born in this country. | ||
| And people wanted to die, sit on a boat for weeks to get here. | ||
| Yeah, the amount of opportunity exists here is unprecedented. | ||
| Yeah, the people who used to sit on boats for weeks going to China, they would say they got Shanghai'd. | ||
| You know about this? | ||
| The people, like, they would, like, in Portland, Oregon, like, they would, people at the bar, they would, like, slip them a mickey, and they'd have, like, these trap doors at the bar, and, like, pssh! | ||
| Spanish fly, open the trap door, boom, they'd wake up, they'd be on a boat to China working, forced, and they call it getting Shanghai'd. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| You've never heard about that? | ||
| I did hear about that, but I completely forgot about that term, Shanghai'd, until you just brought it up. | ||
| I haven't heard that in years. | ||
| But I never really put it together that that's what it was. | ||
| That that was like a real network of human slavery. | ||
| Yeah, forced labor. | ||
| China has a crazy history of that. | ||
| And here we are bitching about not putting a song in a mayonnaise commercial. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Did you guys write all this stuff during COVID? Yeah, we both got COVID making the record. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Who was Patient Zero? | ||
| Dan went down first. | ||
| Yeah, I got it first. | ||
| Hit me for a couple weeks. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| I had a fever for like two weeks. | ||
| What time of the year was this? | ||
| When was this around? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| You got it end of, it was end of August. | ||
| Of this past year? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So you got the Delta. | ||
| Yeah, I hit the Delta. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I made him some soup and he was like, I think I can taste it. | ||
| This is after like two weeks. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| And I got the shit too. | ||
| My whole family got it. | ||
| Did you do any treatments for it? | ||
| I tried to. | ||
| I couldn't get any doctors to help me. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was like the only person that I could really get on the phone to help me was a pharmacist. | ||
| I was texting directly with the pharmacist. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the monoclonals were around. | ||
| Yeah, I was trying to get them. | ||
| I couldn't get them. | ||
| Why wouldn't they give them to you? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They tried to... | ||
| One of my doctors who I was with tried to give me some weird... | ||
| What was that medicine he tried to give me? | ||
| It was for some strains. | ||
| It was for something else. | ||
| It was for high cholesterol. | ||
| Yeah, it was a cholesterol medication. | ||
| He's like, you know, we're not going to give you that monoclonal. | ||
| I can't do that, but I can give you this cholesterol drug. | ||
| We're not going to give you a thing that's going to help you, even though we have it right here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When has that ever happened before? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| When has there ever been a time where you go, the medicine that's going to make me better is right over there. | ||
| Can I get that? | ||
| Nope, we can't give it to you. | ||
| I couldn't get it. | ||
| So I spent two weeks with a fever. | ||
| I mean, is that a supply issue? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| No, this was early on. | ||
| But I mean, is it a supply issue where they want to make sure that the most vulnerable people get it only? | ||
| Is that what it is, or is this bullshit? | ||
| What's going on with that? | ||
| It could have been supply because in Florida they were giving it to people in drive-thrus and shit. | ||
| Yeah, Florida was giving it to everybody. | ||
| My friend Ari got it down there and they gave it to him. | ||
| Yeah, I was talking to my friends in Florida and they'd all gotten it and got treatment and were better really fast. | ||
| Florida had a real open policy and it was all free too. | ||
| You could just go into these clinics, these monoclonal antibody clinics. | ||
| I'm pretty sure they're free. | ||
| They were doing like intra-muscular shots. | ||
| Yeah, it was eye-opening to say the least. | ||
| It's creepy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I got lucky that I got good healthcare, but I got it in the same time frame as you did, so I got the Delta too. | ||
| But, you know, I just don't like the idea that that can happen again. | ||
| I lost my spell for like a... | ||
| Eight weeks. | ||
| It was nuts. | ||
| Did you try alpha-lipoic acid? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| Andrew Huberman said that alpha-lipoic acid seems to show some promise in alleviating some of the symptoms of not having a sense of smell or taste. | ||
| Let me check it out. | ||
| Because my smell is still fucked up. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Still fucked up. | ||
| Here and there, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, my friend Ryan Sickler, stand-up comedian, he's been like 18 months, no smell. | ||
| Dude, the weird thing for me about COVID was that every day I felt like a new and distinct symptom, just like mildly. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I felt like the heart palpitations, I felt like the brain fog. | ||
| I felt all of this shit. | ||
| It was nuts. | ||
| It's a weird disease. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like an alien disease. | ||
| It feels like it was made in a lab. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It definitely. | ||
| I never felt anything like it, and it was bizarre. | ||
| And also, like, you know, I looked up this, like, how many people, you know, what other diseases cause total loss of smell and taste? | ||
| And they're like, a sinus infection. | ||
| I was like, I've never fucking heard of that. | ||
| My dad can't smell and the reason why he can't smell is because he walked into a door and broke his nose and then the doctor went to correct it and like severed a nerve and he's never been able to taste since. | ||
| That's the only person I ever knew who couldn't smell was my dad. | ||
| And you know how the way the doctor tested my dad's sense of smell is he picked up his ashtray and said, you smell that? | ||
| He's like, nope. | ||
| He's like, yeah. | ||
| I don't think I can be able to smell again. | ||
| But I mean, have you heard of any other diseases that cause that? | ||
| Never. | ||
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Never heard of one. | |
| Never heard of one. | ||
| And it's like so prevalent. | ||
| I know so many people that lost their sense of smell. | ||
| It's a creepy ass fucking disease. | ||
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I just took the antibody test and mine's still alive and kicking. | |
| Strong. | ||
| Strong. | ||
| Well, next time you guys do it, if you get sick again, hopefully it'll be easier. | ||
| The new version of it seems to be quite a bit milder. | ||
| But everybody keeps talking about it like it's going to come around again. | ||
| They're stirring up the flames, stirring up the embers of fear. | ||
| I was on a plane when they... | ||
| Announced that the mask mandate on planes was gone and it was really funny to see like how people took to that. | ||
| Did they cheer? | ||
| Half the people did and another half like... | ||
| Full panic. | ||
| Full panic. | ||
| I think everybody that had had it already was like, thank God. | ||
| We didn't travel much, and Nashville opened up very early. | ||
| It was like there were no masks anywhere, especially when you got right out of the city. | ||
| No one wore masks. | ||
| Same thing as Texas. | ||
| Yeah, you get outside of Austin, and it's like they didn't care. | ||
| They acted normal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whether it's good or bad, because a lot of those folks are not that healthy. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| That's what was like crushing, like, my friend was the CEO of a hospital near Nashville, and it was all people from outside Nashville with pre-existing conditions taking up all the beds. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, a lot of fucking people have pre-existing conditions. | ||
| That's one of the things that this exposed. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's a bummer, man. | ||
| We all have lead poisoning. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| But it makes sense. | ||
| I have a buddy who lived in Brooklyn for a while, and he was trying to grow vegetables in his backyard, but he's a really smart dude, so he dug up the soil and had it tested and just filled with lead. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| So they had to figure out how to get the lead out. | ||
| There's certain plants that you can grow to let the lead out. | ||
| There's certain plants you can grow that will help extract it from the soil. | ||
| Get the lead out. | ||
| That's what they'd say on the radio in Northeastern Ohio. | ||
| For Led Zeppelin. | ||
| There was a half hour show every day when we were growing up called Let the Lead Out. | ||
| Led Zeppelin for a half hour. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Rock and roll was so prevalent in Northeastern Ohio. | ||
| That's another one. | ||
| Imagine being able to see Zeppelin in their prime. | ||
| What that must have been like. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| What's the documentary Song Remains the Same? | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| That's like their feature-like films. | ||
| I find those band-made films in the 70s impossible to watch. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| But they put out a live concert in like 2003 called How the West Was Won. | ||
| There's footage from them at Royal Albert Hall around the same time as that Black Sabbath footage, like 1970, 1969. Fucking insane. | ||
| So good, man. | ||
| Yeah, Pat got me into them. | ||
| I hadn't listened to... | ||
| Led Zeppelin. | ||
| I never listened to Zeppelin. | ||
| My dad never played it. | ||
| I never really heard it too much. | ||
| I fucking grew up with Led Zeppelin. | ||
| I'm white trash from Massachusetts. | ||
| When I was in high school, that's where I went to high school, and that's where all the... | ||
| I mean, everybody loved Zeppelin. | ||
| It was just Robert Plant posters on people's walls, and everyone knew how to do the little different insignias and put them on your notebooks. | ||
| I had a Led Zeppelin poster on my wall. | ||
| My friends used to give me some shit about liking Led Zeppelin because it was like classic. | ||
| It wasn't hip, you know? | ||
| Well, you're younger than me. | ||
| I'm older than you. | ||
| When I was a kid, it was just 10 years ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is kind of crazy. | ||
| We would listen to like, even like old muscle cars. | ||
| They were just 20 years ago. | ||
| It wasn't that long ago. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I have a 65 Mustang, and I'm constantly thinking about how the car is only 15 years older than me, but it feels like it's from another era. | ||
| It's from another era. | ||
| It's a wagon. | ||
| It's like wagon wheels. | ||
| It's like so indecisible, like what's happening on the road. | ||
| It's like you're not getting good feedback at all. | ||
| No idea what's going on. | ||
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No idea. | |
| And it's just so powerful. | ||
| Consider how rickety it kind of feels, how powerful it is. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| But beautiful. | ||
| It's like a rolling piece of art. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| But there's something that would go well with your music. | ||
| Like a 65 Mustang and your music. | ||
| A dope 65 Mustang and your music go together. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| I find a nice 1988 Ford Tempo in our music. | ||
| Dude, you never see those things. | ||
| That was my first car. | ||
| It was a Ford Tempo. | ||
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Oh, yeah? | |
| It had a stick shift. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Ford Tempo. | ||
| You could really let it out, you know? | ||
| Dude, those cars did not last. | ||
| I put 12s in the trunk. | ||
| Within 10 years, those cars were all dust. | ||
| In fact, I have a friend who used to tell this story, and this is like early 2000s, so the car would only be like 12 years old. | ||
| He's like, I was merging onto 77, which is like the highway in Akron. | ||
| And I swear to God, like a mint condition Mercury Topaz merged on next to me. | ||
| It was immaculate. | ||
| And it just took off and just disappeared. | ||
| But it was like the ghost car, the immaculate fucking Ford Tempo. | ||
| Someone's keeping one well-kept in their garage. | ||
| That's back in the day when they had three cars that were all the same. | ||
| It was like the Mercury Sable. | ||
| There were like three cars that were all exactly the same. | ||
| Right, because Mercury was owned by Ford and they just had different names for things. | ||
| Yeah, they're all just pieces of shit. | ||
| There were so many bad cars back then. | ||
| It's kind of interesting that the earlier eras up until 1970-ish is when people collected cars. | ||
| Those are still classic today. | ||
| They were classic 10 years ago. | ||
| But nobody gives a fuck about those 90s cars. | ||
| Get them out of here. | ||
| 80s cars? | ||
| Get out of here with those 80s cars. | ||
| I've got an 85 Cadillac Seville Slantback. | ||
| I love it so much. | ||
| If you want to have a 90s car, what's good in the 90s? | ||
| Well, I guess Porsches. | ||
| I mean, we grew up in the era of hip-hop with the cars, the Forens, with the rims. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you seen those guys at BBS, boys? | ||
| They make those cars basically like dream cars from rap videos. | ||
| They make them now. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| They're getting huge doing that. | ||
| And it's so amazing seeing it. | ||
| I get so... | ||
| It brings up so many memories, you know? | ||
| Those were the cars I wanted when I was, like, in high school. | ||
| Yeah, you're always, like, a prisoner to the cars that you were really into when you were in high school. | ||
| That's what was popular. | ||
| It was on the videos. | ||
| It was all flashy and, like, looked amazing. | ||
| How many people out there want a Testarossa because of Miami Vice? | ||
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Right? | |
| Everybody wanted to be Don Johnson. | ||
| I always wanted the Ghostbusters ambulance. | ||
| That was the car. | ||
| Those are very expensive. | ||
| I would imagine. | ||
| My son's really into, like, foreign cars. | ||
| What are all these, Jamie? | ||
| The BBS boys cars. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I just drool over all these videos, man. | ||
| So they put BBS wheels on all these cars? | ||
| Well, that's just what they're called, but they put just, you know, accessories from the era on there. | ||
| One car that was fucking incredible from the 1990s that doesn't get its just deserve is the original Acura NSX. That little tiny aluminum car that Acura made. | ||
| That's a 90s car that needs some respect. | ||
| It was like a 90s Acura response to Ferrari, because Ferraris were making these sleek little sports cars. | ||
| And so Acura decided, we're going to show you what a real one is like. | ||
| We're going to make one that doesn't break. | ||
| We're going to make one that you could drive every fucking day. | ||
| So it's like your car, except it doesn't break every 10 minutes. | ||
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That's cool. | |
| And so they made a better Ferrari, and they changed the game for everybody else. | ||
| Everybody else had to, like, make a car that actually lasted because Hondas were so fucking good. | ||
| They figured out how to make a car that just, like, didn't have problems. | ||
| And so if you bought an actual Ferrari, like, that thing was probably always, like, little tweaks. | ||
| It's a race car. | ||
| There's a lot of shit you got to do. | ||
| That other thing's a Honda. | ||
| I have a 2010 BMW. It's still my driver. | ||
| I bought it new. | ||
| I took it in to get new brakes the other day. | ||
| That thing's rickety, man. | ||
| No, I am more. | ||
| It's getting new brakes, but... | ||
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I was shocked when you drove it. | |
| All the front pads have been worn off. | ||
| I was waiting to get a new car. | ||
| I was like, dude, I'm like an old-school saver. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I want to drive this another six months. | ||
| And then, dude, there's like no cars available. | ||
| They're all sold out. | ||
| Because of the supply chain issue. | ||
| So I'm like, I'm going to drive this another year. | ||
| I've decided to get new pads because it was like metal on metal. | ||
| I took it in to the BMW guy. | ||
| The guy checking me in was like, he mentioned that he was 21. I was like, fucking hell, this car. | ||
| He was nine when I bought this car. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Do you know anybody that's driven a daily driver for 12 years? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think I'm about to break some sort of record, man. | ||
| It's unusual. | ||
| It's unusual. | ||
| But those cars can last. | ||
| I might get to keep it. | ||
| It's got 75,000 miles on it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Because we toured so much. | ||
| It's got no miles on it. | ||
| Yeah, those cars can go for a long fucking time, too. | ||
| They're so well engineered. | ||
| Dude, when we signed our first real record deal with this label, Mississippi, it was like for $12,000. | ||
| That was the guarantee. | ||
| And the dude was like, hey, Dan had mentioned, you know, like, that's a cool old Mercedes back there. | ||
| It was like a 1980 Mercedes. | ||
| He's like, well, yeah, I mean, uh... | ||
| I could knock $5,000 off the check and you could take that car. | ||
| You can drive that out. | ||
| You can drive it home. | ||
| He was like a used car salesman record deal. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Had a bullet hole in the windshield. | ||
| Show him a 1994 Acura NSX. I can't believe you've never seen one of these things before. | ||
| Oh, I probably have. | ||
| It's a little aluminum car with like a tail on the end of it. | ||
| That's an Acura NSX. That's an Acura? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's an NSX. It's a mid-engine supercar that Acura designed and built for years. | ||
| I had two of those. | ||
| I had one from that era with the lift-up headlights, and I had one from the later era, like 2003, that had fixed headlights. | ||
| It's a beautiful little car, right? | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| Yeah, it looks Italian, you know? | ||
| They, like, flip the game on the Italians, because they made one of these cars that doesn't break. | ||
| I'd never driven a sports car until just recently. | ||
| I went to Miami, and my son is obsessed with them. | ||
| Because he watches Mr. Beast and stuff. | ||
| They're always talking about Lamborghinis and McLarens. | ||
| He's like, Dad, did you know this Lamborghini can beat this one? | ||
| So I surprised him and rented him a green Lamborghini. | ||
| We drove around Miami. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| He had so much fun. | ||
| Did you drive it at all? | ||
| I drove it all over, yeah. | ||
| Did you freak out while you were driving it? | ||
| Did he freak out? | ||
| Yeah, did you freak out too? | ||
| Yeah, it was a crazy car to drive around in. | ||
| Especially in Miami. | ||
| Something about it felt very appropriate. | ||
| Yeah, it fits right in. | ||
| We drove over to the Padron factory, got some fresh Nicaraguans. | ||
| How old was your son? | ||
| Six. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That must have been a trip. | ||
| Oh, he loved it so much. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| Because that's like being in a spaceship for a little kid or a superhero car. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's what it felt like to me. | ||
| I can't imagine what it was like to him. | ||
| It was just so crazy. | ||
| Blasting the music, driving around with the top off. | ||
| It was kind of nuts. | ||
| Miami's like the most flossy city in the country, for sure, right? | ||
| Where people would drive around with something like that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, if you sit on that main street there, you just see them like every other car is some sort of crazy sports car. | ||
| It's like the place where the yachts go. | ||
| It's the same kind of deal. | ||
| People go there to party and ball. | ||
| It's a way of life there, for sure. | ||
| When you start your tours, do you just figure out what sounds cool? | ||
| Like, oh, I'd like to go to this part of the country. | ||
| Or do you have sort of a plan? | ||
| Do you try to make your way across the country? | ||
| How do you do it? | ||
| Usually, I mean, yeah, there's definitely certain cities. | ||
| On this tour, we're doing 32 shows, and there's some cities that didn't make the cut for whatever reason, routing, that we'll have to go back to. | ||
| But there's big cities for us, too. | ||
| Minneapolis is a big city for us, so it's not on the tour. | ||
| But yeah, we just try to get as much coverage. | ||
| I mean, the big thing for us is that, because we both have young kids, is trying to minimize that time away from home. | ||
| That's what I was going to ask you. | ||
| Do you do the thing where you make your way across the country in a bus or do you do like weekends and fly back? | ||
| We do it all. | ||
| It doesn't make sense to do it in and out, so you have to go on the road. | ||
| So we figure out this kind of system. | ||
| Three weeks on, two weeks off, essentially. | ||
| And we can cover the US in three legs. | ||
| Still trying to figure out how... | ||
| I gotta get my kid out for a couple days here and there. | ||
| I can't go three weeks without seeing him. | ||
| It's just too long. | ||
| My dad went away for a month when I was a kid, and it was still traumatizing to me. | ||
| I went to take the trash out two days ago. | ||
| My kid was in tears. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| I know. | ||
| Yeah, it's a weird thing, the travel when you have children. | ||
| It just doesn't feel fun anymore. | ||
| But like I was saying, earlier before we started, I slept better last night than I have in years. | ||
| Because he's not running around grabbing things. | ||
| 12 hours of sleep. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| And so true. | ||
| And everybody can relate to that. | ||
| It's just a thing that happens to you. | ||
| You have children. | ||
| And also you start getting real paranoid about things. | ||
| Paranoid about what are the dangers out there. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Start thinking about stuff. | ||
| Do we have enough food? | ||
| Do we have food stockpiled anywhere? | ||
| You start thinking things like that when you have children. | ||
| Like with COVID, I was just really worried about the toilet paper situation. | ||
| I have to pee so bad. | ||
| Let me pause this. | ||
| Let's pause this and we'll come back and chat some more. | ||
| Goddamn I gotta pee so bad. | ||
| Barely hanging in here. | ||
| We were waiting to see who would go first. | ||
| So we were talking about cars. | ||
| So why do you have this old-ass car? | ||
| You obviously love cars. | ||
| I'm just like a... | ||
| Pragmatic? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're beautiful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when they run, it's amazing. | ||
| I've got old motorcycles, 30s and 40s. | ||
| But this isn't that old. | ||
| It's 2010. Yeah, mine's not beautiful. | ||
| I just took a cheapskate. | ||
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Right. | |
| I thought you were talking about your... | ||
| Dan has a crazy collection of motorcycles. | ||
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Really? | |
| I thought you were talking about the... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What kind of motorcycles? | ||
| Old knuckleheads and panheads. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How'd you get into those? | ||
| I had some friends in Nashville who were into them. | ||
| And then actually I bought my first one from Mike Wolf, who lives in town. | ||
| Because he's just always getting them. | ||
| And yeah, I just got addicted to it. | ||
| Those are fuckin' cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you see one ride by, you can't help but turn it. | ||
| Turn your head and look at it. | ||
| Watch it. | ||
| You get drawn into it. | ||
| There's something about it, like the freedom of that. | ||
| I always think of the beginning of that Hunter S. Thompson documentary where he's talking about the edge, and he's riding the motorcycle on the Pacific Coast Highway, and he's just... | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
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No. | |
| And then talking about how he gets to a certain speed where it feels like he hears music and everything just seems to come together for him. | ||
| It's so peaceful. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| Nothing clears my mind like it. | ||
| I'm so scared of those things. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Yeah, but these ones are not like a Kawasaki ninja or something. | ||
| But even them, I'm scared of other people, man. | ||
| Yeah, I guess. | ||
| Dan's like, oh man, I'm not so into flying. | ||
| And I'm like, dude, you drive a 100-year-old motorcycle. | ||
| Like literally, 85-year-old motorcycle. | ||
| I'm like, come on. | ||
| Johnny Depp is so simple, those machines. | ||
| Johnny Depp is actually the one that does the narration over that Hunter Thompson thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The ride in the motorcycle thing. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, motorcycles, they're amazing, but... | ||
| They definitely scare me. | ||
| I think that's healthy. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| Dude, how many of these do you have? | ||
| You've got like 15? | ||
| Look at the patina. | ||
| Can you go back to that one? | ||
| 18. Look at the patina on that one. | ||
| That one came from North Carolina. | ||
| Dude, that is fucking gorgeous. | ||
| 48. First year at Panhead. | ||
| That's a clear example of time and wear making something even more beautiful. | ||
| All my bikes are like that. | ||
| Those are the ones that I like, are the ones that are sort of like rolling folk art. | ||
| That is... | ||
| That's my Indian right there, the striped one. | ||
| The guy who owned that played motorcycle polo with that bike. | ||
| First gear is completely ripped out because he was just playing fucking polo. | ||
| That one that I'm on right there, that red one, that... | ||
| What's that one? | ||
| Oh, that's not me, no. | ||
| That's my buddy, though. | ||
| You want to look at it for a second? | ||
| No, that one. | ||
| It looks like the same bike. | ||
| This one, yeah, right there in the middle. | ||
| That guy came out of the Army and bought that for himself. | ||
| It was black. | ||
| He painted it all red. | ||
| What year is that? | ||
| Customized it. | ||
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That's a 40. 1940. Look how beautiful that thing is. | |
| And do you ever drive these things? | ||
| And there's pinstriping on the front. | ||
| That's like pinstriping from the 40s. | ||
| It's so early. | ||
| Do you drive these? | ||
| I rode that one to Mississippi and back. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| With a group of about 14 other old bikes. | ||
| Now is there a compromise in like the way it breaks or anything? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Look how bad is it? | ||
| How dangerous is it? | ||
| That one's an original paint. | ||
| That's fucking beautiful. | ||
| I bought that one from Wolf. | ||
| God, that green is incredible. | ||
| He called that one swamp donkey. | ||
| How bad are the brakes? | ||
| Oh, they're good. | ||
| I mean, if you have them right, they're fine. | ||
| So it's not that big of a difference where it's dangerous? | ||
| Well, a modern bike definitely brakes. | ||
| A disc brake definitely stops better, but, you know. | ||
| Anyway, it's a real addiction, but I do love it. | ||
| BMW is coming out with some kind of motorcycle that helps you correct when you lose balance. | ||
| Like a trike? | ||
| I don't know what the fuck it is. | ||
| Dude, I saw someone here driving one of those, it's like a reverse trike, the cars, the spiders. | ||
| Dude, they're so goofy looking. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| Yeah, this is this BMW thing. | ||
| That's like the car from the ambiguously gay duo. | ||
| It's a Tron car. | ||
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Right? | |
| So the idea is something inside of it balances it out to help you if you are about to fall over. | ||
| It balances it out. | ||
| That reminds me of like the Gibson made guitars that would tune themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The robot guitar. | ||
| It's like a Segway. | ||
| Failed miserably. | ||
| It's fucking cool looking. | ||
| I mean, it's not the same kind of cool as your bikes, but it's spaceship cool. | ||
| It's like Tron level. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's completely different feels to that. | ||
| Like, look at that woman riding that. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| So you could just sit on it, and it doesn't tip over? | ||
| We're basically living in a movie. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| Is this a concept, or is it this is an actual bike? | ||
| Both, I think? | ||
| Super Matrix, I love that. | ||
| Fuck yeah, it looks awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Because they've been making some weird stuff to show at CES and stuff. | |
| The difference is, I bet, that if you drive one of your bikes, that it's a lot like driving a 1965 Corvette or something like that, that you feel something when you're driving it. | ||
| It's like there's an excitement to having this rolling old art under your ass. | ||
| I just, I look at the clothes they're wearing and I'm just wondering like, you know like in the 50s and I tried to like show what the future would look like and then the 70s come around and everyone's wearing like really ugly bell bottoms. | ||
| I went to the clothing store today and my wife had to buy some shoes and like Dude, all the jeans are designed to emphasize the fupa. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, I don't even understand what's happening. | ||
| I feel like all the pants are really short and cut really weird. | ||
| I just wonder what people are going to dress like 15 years from now. | ||
| They're not going to dress like that. | ||
| They're going to dress way, way... | ||
| There's so much lead poisoning out there, man. | ||
| They're going to be dressed... | ||
| You think that's what it is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That would make sense why people get really into pants that have been torn to shreds. | ||
| My wife has pants that she just bought that look like she was in a car accident. | ||
| She just got attacked by wolves. | ||
| There's holes all over them. | ||
| And that's the style. | ||
| The style is, wear clothes that it's torn apart. | ||
| Blown apart. | ||
| Like, your knees are hanging out, there's fucking pieces of your thigh exposed. | ||
| Like, your pants, you should be embarrassed to have those pants on, run home and change. | ||
| You tore your pants apart. | ||
| But no, you buy them like that. | ||
| The dystopian future clothing where the Yeezy collection of futuristic prisoners. | ||
| It's just like Obi-Wan Kenobi for the rest of your life. | ||
| I saw Kanye perform at the Hollywood Bowl ten years ago. | ||
| It was all singing through autotune. | ||
| It was very weird. | ||
| I didn't think it was very good. | ||
| It was a performance. | ||
| It was more theatrical. | ||
| But it was funny. | ||
| Afterwards, the people I knew who weren't musicians just were like, that was incredible. | ||
| That was the most incredible thing I've ever seen. | ||
| These are all actors and shit. | ||
| When I see Honey, I Shred the Kids 2, I'm like, that was amazing. | ||
| You're an idiot. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Well, you know, does he have his own way of doing it? | ||
| Like, what was it about it that you didn't like? | ||
| Is it just not your style of music? | ||
| Oh, I just didn't understand it. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| What was he doing? | ||
| It was like a one-man show? | ||
| He was wearing like a burlap sack. | ||
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Really? | |
| It was so weird, man. | ||
| And this is like how many years ago? | ||
| But it wasn't like the shags weird. | ||
| It wasn't like weird weird. | ||
| It was like high IQ weird. | ||
| Just like really worried about it. | ||
| But I don't really get it. | ||
| But the point is just that it's funny when you see someone like the dystopian future. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I hope the future doesn't look like that. | ||
| It's so fucking boring. | ||
| I think the future is going to be genderless. | ||
| I think what we're seeing now with all this bizarre classifications of things and pronouns and all this craziness with people, I think we're on our way to becoming aliens. | ||
| I think this is one of those things. | ||
| What that thing is in our head, that archetype of the big head and the little tiny body, that's the future. | ||
| We're going that way and we're gonna go that way because of a fucking an implant or some sort of technological advance But along the way our bodies are gonna get accustomed to this idea of the male and female dynamic is like it doesn't count anymore It's like there's there's a 98 different genders and everybody could be whatever the fuck you want at any given time and it'll slowly make it easier for us to accept becoming aliens and Genderless, | ||
| fucking genital-less, just little spindly bodies moving everything with our minds. | ||
| That's what's going to happen. | ||
| That's why all this wild shit's happening in our country. | ||
| It's preparing us for this state. | ||
| We're building the fucking cocoon. | ||
| We're going to become the butterfly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't hear about abductions that often anymore, do you? | ||
| Hardly ever. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| I was terrified of it as a kid. | ||
| I was too. | ||
| The Goodyear blimp was based where we're from. | ||
| I was watching Unsolved Mysteries one night when I was probably about eight. | ||
| I can't believe my mom was allowed to watch this shit. | ||
| I was convinced the men in black were going to come into my house when I was a really little kid. | ||
| But one day I'm watching this shit and I look out to Reflecting on me just like colors. | ||
| Just like blue, red. | ||
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I'm like, what the fuck is going on? | |
| And I look up in the sky and I see like all these colors. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| Through the trees. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| And it turned out like they were testing like a You know what movie scared the fuck out of me? | ||
| Do you remember that Whitley Stryber movie? | ||
| Dude, my friends' parents own Whitley Stryber's house where he wrote Communion. | ||
| What movie? | ||
| Communion. | ||
| Here, listen to this. | ||
| This is not a value judgment. | ||
| This is just facts. | ||
| Whitley Stryber was a fiction writer. | ||
| He would write fantasy novels. | ||
| What kind of stuff did he write? | ||
| Was it sci-fi? | ||
| I'm only familiar with Communion, so I don't know. | ||
| And then he writes a true life story that reads exactly like his novels. | ||
| It talks about him being abducted by aliens. | ||
| And then they make a movie about this. | ||
| And the movie's... | ||
| When I was a kid and I watched it, I was fucking terrified! | ||
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Dude, the cover of the book alone is... | |
| They're going to take me through the walls. | ||
| They can just take you right through walls. | ||
| They just appear at your bedside. | ||
| You can't move. | ||
| You're paralyzed. | ||
| They run science experiments on you. | ||
| Dude, I was talking to this... | ||
| That's the movie that scared you the most when you were a kid? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| In terms of... | ||
| It wasn't that it scared me the most, but it was the most in terms of thinking that that could really happen. | ||
| That could really happen to you. | ||
| I was sitting around once on tour and talking to one of the security guys that we were touring with. | ||
| And we were talking about, you know, touring. | ||
| Of course, like, you know, like, he's like, you ever been in a haunted hotel room? | ||
| He's like, oh, yeah. | ||
| I've seen a demon once. | ||
| I'm like, oh, really? | ||
| He's like, oh, yeah. | ||
| It climbed on top of me. | ||
| It wouldn't let me up. | ||
| It held me down. | ||
| I was like, oh, dude, that's called sleep paralysis. | ||
| He's like, no, man. | ||
| Full demon. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| I was like, look it up. | ||
| I was like, it's happened to me. | ||
| Sleep paralysis is scary. | ||
| Because, you know, you think that someone's holding you down. | ||
| You think someone's in the room. | ||
| But, like, there's a painting from, like, the 1700s of, like, a succubus on top of something. | ||
| He's like, what the fuck? | ||
| Dude, he got so freaked out. | ||
| It's like, I met a few people who were fully convinced they had seen a demon. | ||
| And then I was like, sleep paralysis? | ||
| Like, your mind's, like, awake. | ||
| Your body's asleep. | ||
| Or vice versa. | ||
| I forget what. | ||
| But... | ||
| But it's also you could be dreaming still. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So if you do have sleep paralysis and you're in the middle of a fucking half-assed dream and you really think there is a demon on your chest? | ||
| I've had it like four or five times every time I've had it. | ||
| Like, there's somebody in the room. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Somebody's in the fucking room. | ||
| Always, but I wonder if, you know, a lot of abduction stuff probably comes down to that. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That is a wild picture. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That is a wild picture. | ||
| Imagine, like, come to my art show. | ||
| This, like, 1780s artist, come to my art show. | ||
| I've drawn a succubus on top of a young woman. | ||
| Back then when they really didn't have much data on anything. | ||
| So metal, dude. | ||
| So metal. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| Back then when someone got sick or when something like, oh, I think that's incredible. | ||
| Isn't it crazy that each one of these shows the same kind of thing? | ||
| Each one of these pieces of artwork, it's a demon on the back. | ||
| It's all like Northern Europeans too. | ||
| What if we're just naive? | ||
| What if we're just naive and there really are demons that occasionally just almost suffocate you? | ||
| And they think it's cute. | ||
| They think it's cute. | ||
| They just climb on you and almost suffocate you, but they're not allowed to suffocate you. | ||
| And they let go. | ||
| And occasionally they blow you. | ||
| And that's why you have wet dreams. | ||
| Maybe if you had wet dreams, you found out it's actually demons that are riding your cock. | ||
| Dude, this chick I knew, she told me she was an atheist, and then she told me she believed in demons, and I was like, eh. | ||
| Seems consistent. | ||
| I was like, it doesn't really work that way. | ||
| It doesn't quite work that way. | ||
| Well, that's the thing is, like, everybody, you're allowed to say you believe in God, but very few people say they believe in the devil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hard to say. | ||
| That gets you ridiculed. | ||
| Even the people that believe in God, oh, come on, the devil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But imagine. | ||
| Imagine if that's really what's going on. | ||
| That's what eats at the heart of men and causing them to contemplate nuclear war. | ||
| It really is devils. | ||
| That would be wild shit if we were so naive like, God, devils aren't real. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, if the sun wasn't real and someone told you about the sun, you'd be like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| It's a million times bigger than the earth and it's on fire. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, what else? | ||
| Can it read your mind? | ||
| If you stare at it, do you go blind? | ||
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Yes! | |
| Yes, you do. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Oh my god, man. | ||
| There's a lot of shit that if it wasn't real, someone told you about it, You'd be very incredulous. | ||
| Orcas? | ||
| They have their own language. | ||
| We can't decipher it. | ||
| They're maybe as smart as us. | ||
| They just don't affect their environment. | ||
| That's one thing that COVID, I think, my realization was just how little anybody knows. | ||
| It's impossible to even get a clear message out to anybody. | ||
| And when people were, like, early on, like, everybody's getting vented and dying. | ||
| Like, no one's even mentioned, like, that. | ||
| Like, there's been, like, a million deaths. | ||
| But, like, how many hundreds of thousands were from being... | ||
| Ventilated. | ||
| Ventilated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, but... | ||
| They didn't know what to do. | ||
| They don't know. | ||
| But then, like, you're, like, oh, what happens if you get diagnosed with, like, most diseases? | ||
| You're just fucked. | ||
| You're just fucked. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, but I think that there's just very little that people really... | ||
| You know, the level of understanding that people have. | ||
| Like, imagine the fact that we were fucking around with, like, nuclear bombs, like, 70 years ago. | ||
| Like, no one even really knew what was happening. | ||
| It's just, like, accidental. | ||
| Like, just dropping them all the time in the ocean. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Like, fucking crazy. | |
| The videos are insane. | ||
| Dude, nuts. | ||
| I showed him to a friend of mine the other night at dinner. | ||
| Like, this is what it looked like. | ||
| And you see the look on his face when the fucking mile-high wall of water comes out of the ocean. | ||
| It's so big, it doesn't even make sense. | ||
| Holy fuck! | ||
| Right now, when everyone's talking about this Russian hypersonic missile, Like, can you believe this weapon that Russia has? | ||
| I was like, wait a second. | ||
| The U.S. spends like 10 to 20 times the amount of money on weapons than Russia. | ||
| We have all that shit. | ||
| I mean, but the hypersonic missile, I mean, that's probably what those UFOs, quote-unquote UFOs from the videos that were circulating a couple years ago are just like, you know, because those things are fucking crazy, man. | ||
| The Ramjet shit. | ||
| But it's crazy. | ||
| It's like Art Bell. | ||
| When we used to drive on tour back in the day, it'd be like, you'd listen to Coast to Coast at night. | ||
| There's nothing else, but you could find that scary-ass shit, and you'd be looking over the Arizona skyline looking for shit. | ||
| Driving in the middle of the night, listening to Art Bell. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| And around the time we were doing that, that's when Art Bell's family got kidnapped. | ||
| You're like, what the fuck is going on? | ||
| And George Norrie would come on, and then they were talking about Ramjets and all kinds of shit. | ||
| I think the Ramjets powers the SR-71. | ||
| Essentially, it takes a whole tank of fuel to get that thing just up and go in Mach 1 or 2, and then they have to refuel it to get it ramming or whatever. | ||
| So they refuel them in the sky? | ||
| Yeah, it takes a whole tank to get them where they need to go. | ||
| That's the wildest shit ever. | ||
| Pumping gas in the sky. | ||
| Dude, if you see the potential of these hypersonic missiles, have you... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, without even a warhead, they have a megaton explosion just from the velocity of the speed. | ||
| They can go Mach 15 or something. | ||
| And they can change course. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They can't just predict, oh, this one's going to go to Seattle. | ||
| No, it can turn left. | ||
| You can go south you know that scene and like it's like Superman 2 where they have the ICBM like he's riding it Yeah I think you write it I think that's probably a lot of what those UFO sightings were. | ||
| I think a lot of the other ones are drones. | ||
| The famous one is that Tic Tac one that they found off the coast of San Diego, I think in 2004. A commander, David Fravor, saw this object that they had tracked. | ||
| They even recalibrated their device, apparently, to make sure that it was accurate. | ||
| But they've read this thing at more than 50,000 feet above sea level, and it got down to 50 feet in less than a second. | ||
| And they don't know what it is, and they followed it around with their jets, and then the people on the Nimitz said, yeah, we've been seeing these for a couple weeks. | ||
| These, like, super credible naval pilots. | ||
| Guys who really understand, like, what's possible and not possible. | ||
| And they're watching these things dart off and just vanish with the kind of speed that, like, is just impossible. | ||
| No propulsion signature. | ||
| It doesn't, like, show that, like, anything's coming out the back like a normal jet. | ||
| It just looks like a Tic Tac. | ||
| And it goes at an impossible speed. | ||
| Like, what the fuck is that? | ||
| That might be a drone. | ||
| It might be some crazy fucking drone that they've been working on for decades just not telling us about. | ||
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Oh, for sure. | |
| When I saw the Pentagon was talking about UFOs and they were talking about things from alien worlds, I'm like, yeah, really? | ||
| Or maybe you guys have been making some cool fucking shit and you don't want everybody to know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And you're like, oh yeah, it's not us. | ||
| We don't have any hypersonic fucking UFO-looking Tic Tacs. | ||
| It's like back to Phil Hartman when he does the unfrozen caveman lawyer. | ||
| He's like, I'm not familiar with your modern ways, this legal system, but I do know my client's entitled to 3.5 million in punitive damages. | ||
| It's alien technology. | ||
| Why would the Pentagon ever tell us? | ||
| Because I always wondered, because Tom DeLonge, he actually worked with the government. | ||
| They brought him in to talk about aliens, because he's that much of an alien freak. | ||
| And I think they thought that would help. | ||
| Dude, he told me, he was like, they're cloaked. | ||
| They're all above us. | ||
| They're cloaked. | ||
| They're scanning. | ||
| Honestly, what he was describing was like satellites tapping into all of our phones and listening to everything we do, which is, I think, actually happening. | ||
| Yeah, but they don't even need satellites to do that. | ||
| They get right into the system. | ||
| They can listen to everything you say. | ||
| Gavin DeBecker, who's a security expert on my podcast, was explaining that you used to have a clickable link. | ||
| It used to be a thing you had to click, and then you would accidentally, without your knowledge, download some sort of a software that would take over your phone. | ||
| Now they don't need that. | ||
| So now they just need your phone number. | ||
| They get your phone number. | ||
| They're just listening to you. | ||
| They're watching everything you do. | ||
| They can do whatever they want now. | ||
| Dude, imagine the stupid conversations that these people have to listen to. | ||
| Yeah, well, it makes people more aware of how fucking stupid your conversations are if you think they can come up in a trial with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That kind of shit, when you realize, like, oh my god, like, everything you've ever said. | ||
| And he's now reading, like... | ||
| Text messages and shit. | ||
| The vessel I donated my jizz to. | ||
| By the way, he's kind of a poetic guy. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| And he was probably lit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He likes to get fucked up, so why are we taking this at, like, these are statements? | ||
| Is this, like, how he really feels about everything? | ||
| Seems to be he's pretty universally coming out on top. | ||
| It seems to be. | ||
| It's unfortunate. | ||
| It's unfortunate that those kind of things do happen, but it's probably... | ||
| We played with him one time. | ||
| He's so nice. | ||
| It's probably good for people to recognize that all kinds of genders are crazy. | ||
| Just because someone is a male doesn't mean they're evil. | ||
| Someone's a female doesn't mean they're evil either. | ||
| There's crazy people on both sides. | ||
| And sometimes we all want to automatically assume, like when someone accuses someone of something, automatically assume that this person did it. | ||
| Especially if we'd like to, if it's a famous person. | ||
| In this situation, it seems like there's a lot of wackiness. | ||
| I think it's good to let people look at this kind of stuff and go, okay, there's crazy people everywhere. | ||
| This could all be crazy. | ||
| What actually happened here? | ||
| How much coke were you on? | ||
| What were you guys doing? | ||
| How many days have you been up for? | ||
| You chopped your finger off? | ||
| Why were you both recording each other? | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| You both recording each other? | ||
| This is madness all around. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But also, yeah, I do think there's a lot of... | ||
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That's spy versus spy shit. | |
| When relationships get bad, you know that shit happens. | ||
| It's so crazy, though. | ||
| They're arguing. | ||
| You get so crazy. | ||
| But they're both actors. | ||
| So they're both aware that they're recording, and they're acting like they're aware they're recording. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It's bananas. | ||
|
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It's bananas. | |
| It's so bananas because it's like, is this like some really high-level reality TV? Am I being punked? | ||
| Is this a project? | ||
| Two actors acting out a horrific breakup? | ||
| It sounds like a nightmare. | ||
| A horrible nightmare. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the world's fixated. | ||
| Feels like it sounds common to me. | ||
| Oh, it's very common. | ||
| Have you seen Blowgate? | ||
| No, what's that? | ||
| Blowgate. | ||
| There's a video where it appears that she's sniffing something out of her napkin. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| Something to make her cry? | ||
| People are scrutinizing every fucking second of this and trying to look for it. | ||
| Blowgate. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| I think I might have made that part. | ||
| It seems like there should be a different, like, court system for this. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy if this is regular court. | ||
| It should be like People's Court. | ||
| Dude, imagine if there was a bailiff during this. | ||
| Dude, if they had a people's court bailiff during this just being like, oh! | ||
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Basically our health coach would be like, just Judy. | |
| Hell no. | ||
| When he was talking about finding her shit on the bed, dude, the bailiff would lose his shit. | ||
| Is that the best way to figure out who's right and who's wrong, is let them do that? | ||
| Is that really the best way? | ||
| They all just tell their story and their stories don't match up? | ||
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And people have to figure out who they believe? | |
| What a fucking wacky thing to do publicly. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| Fucking weird, man. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| He sued her and then she countersued him for $100 million. | ||
| So this lawsuit will go on forever. | ||
| They'll just keep battling it out. | ||
| One of them is going to end up with a big yacht, though. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| No. | ||
| What is the best case scenario is that people believe Johnny Depp? | ||
| That's the best case scenario for him. | ||
| I think he's probably already achieved that. | ||
| Dude, all the money that's being made by the advertising and clickbait should be put into a slush fund and then the winner of the case should get them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That should be, like, the new thing for divorces. | ||
| Dude, they're generating tens of millions of dollars a week right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, yeah! | ||
| I mean, imagine all the fucking news shows, air quotes, news shows that are covering this. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's entertaining as hell. | ||
| It's crazy town. | ||
| It's crazy town, and there's no script. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Johnny comes off pretty fucking smooth, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Seems like a nice guy. | ||
| He seems entertained, too. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's a guy who likes to party. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Seems like he got himself all wrapped up in a bad situation. | ||
| Dude, we've hung out with him. | ||
| He's just so nice. | ||
| Someone, um... | ||
| Someone tweeted, like, when did Johnny Depp start looking like a strip club DJ? Pretty accurate. | ||
| I wonder if they're going to put him back on Pirates of the Caribbean. | ||
| If Disney wanted to reclaim all the stock that they've lost, all the market share they've lost over the last couple months, I guarantee you say, fuck it, we're on Team Johnny Depp. | ||
| That would probably pump up their stock market price. | ||
| Like, literally. | ||
| Interesting theory. | ||
| That would cause their stock to raise. | ||
| If they, like, just like, you know what? | ||
| We're bringing Johnny back. | ||
| We believe him. | ||
| Hashtag believe most women. | ||
| Maybe they could cast them both. | ||
| Together, alongside each other. | ||
| That's the resolution. | ||
| Look, we know a lot of crazy women are great actors. | ||
| Everybody would watch that. | ||
| Just accept her for who she is. | ||
| She's crazy. | ||
| Everyone would watch that. | ||
| Yeah, maybe they can fucking shake hands on this and come together. | ||
| Listen, listen, listen. | ||
| I've got a better idea. | ||
| Instead of us suing each other into oblivion, how about we star in a fucking movie about fellow pirates? | ||
| Maybe they fall back in love. | ||
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She's the fucking, she's the bad pirate. | |
| And they have to duke it out and eventually they wind up making out. | ||
| They fall in love in real life. | ||
| They fall in love again. | ||
| No, they kill each other. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| No, they get remarried. | ||
| The real Johnny Depp and the real Amber Heard get remarried during the making of this movie because they fall in love again while pretending to be in love for this movie. | ||
| Man, that's twisted. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| Maybe it's better. | ||
| What if they're happy, bro? | ||
| What if they're happy? | ||
| What if they're happy? | ||
| What if it works out? | ||
| You know, there must have been a spark there to begin with there, so I think we could find it again. | ||
| Well, a lot of those crazy gals are a lot of fun. | ||
| It's one of those things. | ||
| Poor Johnny. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Dude, he's talking about getting into a fight and then going down to his bar and pounding six shots of vodka. | ||
| I'm like, ugh. | ||
| Yeah, it's intense, man. | ||
| It's intense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's good friends with my buddy, Doug Stanhope, and he loves the guy. | ||
| But they put down. | ||
| Oh, I bet. | ||
| They fucking party. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, my God, there's so much lever damage and so much chaos. | ||
| But Johnny Depp was a giant Hunter S. Thompson fan. | ||
| Part of what he likes is this idea of just partying until the wheels fall off. | ||
| I met Alice Cooper a year ago. | ||
| He's friends with a good friend of mine. | ||
| Him and I went golfing. | ||
| I sat in the golf cart with him for like four hours. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| That's pretty cool. | ||
| I mean, he had the best stories of all time. | ||
| He said he was in the room when Jimi Hendrix first used a wah-wah pedal. | ||
| Frank Zappa showed it to him. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alice Cooper was there. | ||
| But he was going on about how Johnny Depp was one of his best friends, super nice guy. | ||
| They had that band together, the Hollywood Vampires. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody loves a guy. | ||
| Have you had Alice Cooper on? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'd love to. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| I'd love to. | ||
| Dude, the story's just... | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| You know, he was really good friends with Groucho Marx. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Like, tight, tight friends with Groucho Marx. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, you gotta get him. | ||
| He used to, like, get... | ||
| He, like, said they would get into, like... | ||
| Watch movies in Groucho's bed together. | ||
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No shit. | |
| That's tight. | ||
| That's like best friend shit. | ||
| Yeah, like best friend shit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Groucho Marx, you ever see the old ones when you see the actual high-resolution images where you realize his eyebrows were painted on? | ||
| Have you ever seen that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's so strange. | ||
| You look at it, it's like, what is that? | ||
| It's just paint. | ||
| My dad played all those movies when I was a kid. | ||
| Same, Duck Suit. | ||
| How genius was that to do that, though? | ||
| Because it really did make him a cartoon. | ||
| Stage makeup. | ||
| It made him a cartoon. | ||
| Groucho was a fucking genius. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They all were. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I remember when Gilbert Godfrey used to do the old Groucho impression. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I never saw him do that. | ||
| That's really good. | ||
| You bet your life. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Dude, amazing. | ||
| That's some errors right there, son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was just in Phoenix. | ||
| He's got a Groucho shirt on. | ||
| Groucho. | ||
| Yeah, the Marx Brothers. | ||
| I mean, those first early comedy movies. | ||
| Oh, my God, yeah. | ||
| My God. | ||
| It's... | ||
| It's a wild thing that Alice Cooper's around and those were, you know, it's like the chain of connecting the two. | ||
| Those fucking movies were completely innovative. | ||
| There's nothing, anything, ever anything like that. | ||
| All of a sudden you got a movie, a comedy duo movie, you know, comedy trio in that sense. | ||
| Yeah, there'd be no Mel Brooks without the Marx Brothers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or Laurel and Hardy. | ||
| I was thinking of Laurel and Hardy. | ||
| I love Laurel and Hardy. | ||
| But yeah, Three Stooges, all those guys, like all those early movies, man. | ||
| My son loves three studios. | ||
| Oh, same. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So much fun. | ||
| It just resonates with kids. | ||
| It was so goofy. | ||
| It was so violent. | ||
| They're always hitting each other in shape. | ||
| I liked Shemp, too. | ||
| Yeah, Shemp. | ||
| I didn't like Curly Joe, though. | ||
| That's where I drew the line. | ||
| Yeah, what happened? | ||
| Did one of them die? | ||
| Yeah, Curly. | ||
| Curly died. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was the superstar. | ||
| He was the fucking man. | ||
| He was the superstar. | ||
| Yeah, Shemp was like, you can't replace Curly with Shemp. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| He was one of their brothers, I think, too. | ||
| Oh, was he? | ||
| He was actually one of their brothers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, um... | ||
| I liked him. | ||
| Dude, my allegiance to the Stooges would change every, like, couple days. | ||
| But weren't there, like, two other ones after? | ||
| Then it got suspect. | ||
| And they're like, the guys are really old. | ||
| They can't hit each other like they used to. | ||
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Joe Besser and Joe Dorita. | |
| What's that? | ||
| Joe Besser and Joe Dorita. | ||
| Who are those guys? | ||
| Yeah, that's Curly Joe. | ||
| It's like some of the later members of Kiss. | ||
| This would be Joe Dorita. | ||
| Larry, Moe, and Curly Joe. | ||
| Dude, look how old Moe looks in 1959. Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's in 59? | ||
| What year did they start? | ||
| Early 30s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Larry Fine from Philly. | ||
| 34? | ||
| That's even when they were in Columbia. | ||
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It's the 20s. | |
| Ted Healy and his Stooges is what they were called. | ||
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The Three Stooges began in 1922. Dude, this guy I know, he took me... | |
| He had this recording studio in the Lower East Side. | ||
| It was... | ||
| He's like... | ||
| At an after-hours party, he took me to this thing with some other people. | ||
| And he walked into the apartment building up to the second floor. | ||
| There's a hidden door opened up to this hidden vaudeville theater from the 20s. | ||
| It was just... | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| To the East Village, the East Side of New York, just such crazy history there. | ||
| Crazy vaudeville stuff. | ||
| Those old theaters like that, you go into those old vaudeville style theaters like, it's just a feel, like you feel the experiences almost burned into the walls. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You know, the Ryman's like that. | ||
| You know, where you guys are, where they did the Grand Ole Opry. | ||
| That place is like, you walk in that building, you're like, woo! | ||
| Yeah, there's ghosts there. | ||
| It's burned into the walls. | ||
| It's like experiences. | ||
| People's good times are burned into the walls of that place. | ||
| We had a good theater in downtown Akron. | ||
| The Civic. | ||
| Still there? | ||
| With the stars and the clouds that would slowly move. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So it felt like you're inside a castle. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| We almost got kicked out of the Ryman the first time we played there. | ||
| How come? | ||
| This is it? | ||
| That's the Civic. | ||
| Fuck, that's dope. | ||
| So that ceiling rotates? | ||
| No, it's projected, I think. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And slowly the clouds move and the stars twinkle. | ||
| I just remember being a kid there and being absolutely mesmerized. | ||
| So they've been doing it that way for a long time. | ||
| I wonder how they did that back in the day with a projector. | ||
| I saw Tom Waits there, too. | ||
| How the fuck did they do that way back then with a projector? | ||
| They had projectors that good back then? | ||
| I don't know how they did it, man. | ||
| Pretty dope. | ||
| Yeah, something about those old places that just have experienced so many different shows, they really do feel different. | ||
| They have like a feel to them. | ||
| So many of them were torn down, man. | ||
| It's so crazy to think about all the crazy shit that's been built and torn down. | ||
| I've watched this thing about the Vanderbilt mansions in New York. | ||
| Dude, these crazy opulent houses that would have cost like a billion dollars to build, just tear it down and put like a Dwayne Reade on it. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| So insane. | ||
| When did they do this? | ||
| Dude, they tore them all down like a long time ago, like in the 30s. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Put up some bullshit. | ||
| Now it's all like, you know, yeah, who fucking knows. | ||
| It's a raised pizza. | ||
| There's certain places that why don't they qualify for like historical protection like there's certain places like if you if you go to the like if you go to Hollywood and you pass by the Comedy Store the Comedy Store is like a historical place it should be like in a book somewhere like you can't fuck with it like leave it alone like that's a historical place there should be a few of those we need like a few bars a few perform like the whiskey imagine they turn the whiskey into like a drugstore You'd be like, what? | ||
| Aren't they? | ||
| Is it the whiskey or is it the Roxy? | ||
| Something's about to get turned into something. | ||
| Really? | ||
| The CBGBs, they, you know. | ||
| That's gone. | ||
| They ripped that thing apart. | ||
| But the Roxy is right next door to that famous Rainbow Bar and Grill, right? | ||
| I think that's the one that's getting converted to something. | ||
| Because there's the whiskey on that street and the Roxy. | ||
| The Roxy's right next to the rainbow. | ||
| I think that's where Kinison filmed his first HBO special, too. | ||
| Dude, we used to go into the rainbow when we first started going to L.A. And Lemmy from Motorhead would just always be at the little video game machine in the corner. | ||
| Just sit there and watch this rock star just to pound Roman Cokes, just playing this game. | ||
| That was their spot. | ||
| That was their spot, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pretty fucking decent food. | ||
| Pizza's pretty good. | ||
| Not bad. | ||
| Fun spot to hang out, but it was always like old rock guys. | ||
| It was always old rock guys. | ||
| We were there. | ||
| One time Jason Bonham was there. | ||
| He came up to me. | ||
| He didn't know who we were. | ||
| He was just like at the bar. | ||
| In town for something. | ||
| He's like, first time I came here. | ||
| I ordered a steak and got my dick sucked up. | ||
| Under the table. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| I'm like, you're really drinking Diet Cokes. | ||
| That rock star world. | ||
| Dude, back in the 80s, yeah. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| The 80s were the cocaine days, too, right? | ||
| That's the Miami Vice days. | ||
| That's when people are going crazy. | ||
| Dude, every old rock star guy, they're always like, oh my god, I'm so glad cell phones weren't around when we were doing this shit. | ||
| The Viper Room. | ||
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What? | |
| No! | ||
| Drugs, dolls, and Johnny Depp. | ||
| The Viper Room's demolition is the end of a Hollywood era. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| That's not smart, kids. | ||
| Oh, you gotta register to keep reading. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| I feel the same way about recording studios. | ||
| There's so few classic studios that still exist. | ||
| And when you go into a real, old, cool studio, it's so amazing. | ||
| Well, I would imagine for you guys, it's also like the Comedy Store is to me. | ||
| It's like a historic thing. | ||
| There's a long part of your craft, your art is tied up in a building like that. | ||
| I never get tired of going to Motown. | ||
| Studios when we go to Detroit. | ||
| I mean, it blows my mind. | ||
| I love it in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can't get enough of that shit. | ||
| We went to Stax. | ||
| First time we went to Memphis. | ||
| Abbey Road. | ||
| We made a record at Muscle Shoals Sound. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Before they made the documentary and stuff, it was just a rundown piece of shit building. | ||
| Like, nothing worked in there. | ||
| The guy that bought it lived in the basement. | ||
| It was so trippy and weird. | ||
| And we were in there. | ||
| This is 2009. And there was nothing to do. | ||
| Nothing worked. | ||
| And we ended up making a record Brothers there. | ||
| And it was the first platinum record made there in like 30 fucking years. | ||
| And they made that documentary. | ||
| They never even mentioned ours. | ||
| They should preserve those places. | ||
| They should do something to preserve. | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Drace bought it or donated a bunch of money and now it's like... | ||
| It looks like it did in 1969. It's been restored. | ||
| It wasn't like that when we were there. | ||
| It was so fucked up. | ||
| It did a good job. | ||
| It looks amazing. | ||
| The nickname of the place was the Burlap Palace because all the walls were burlap. | ||
| The little movable walls were all burlap and they were all bright, 60s colors. | ||
| Only one speaker worked in the control room. | ||
| We've made that record in mono. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But that city's magical. | ||
| Muscle Shoals. | ||
| There's so many hits came out of that small town. | ||
| What do you think that is? | ||
| Like, how does something like that happen? | ||
| Yeah, that's the building. | ||
| I mean, there's all kinds of legends, you know, about... | ||
| Some Native American spirits in the river. | ||
| Let me see that inside again, Jamie. | ||
| That picture right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn, there's something cool about that. | ||
| That's in the basement there. | ||
| That's a room in the basement. | ||
| So that's where you hang out in those rooms to the side of the recording studio? | ||
| No, that's where the guys lived, I guess. | ||
| We never went down in the basement. | ||
| He lived here? | ||
| There was one room in the basement. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's the control room. | ||
| See the space-aged angle? | ||
| That's dope. | ||
| There's footage of the Rolling Stones recording Wild Horses. | ||
| Jim Dickinson. | ||
| In that couch up front, they were just getting fucked up. | ||
| Eddie Hinton slept on that couch all the time, apparently. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's got so much history. | ||
| I mean, that's obviously part of it, too, and that's such a famous facade. | ||
| So many photographs taken in front of it. | ||
| It was a casket warehouse, was it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| See, that just seems like it absolutely should be preserved. | ||
| There's places like that. | ||
| It has been, thankfully, but there's so many places that it just disappeared. | ||
| That's the updated working facility now. | ||
| It's a super communist thing to say you shouldn't be allowed to sell it. | ||
| But it's almost like that's bigger than people. | ||
| We loved being there. | ||
| I would imagine, man. | ||
| We were so inspired just being there. | ||
| So there's how many of those across the country that are on that level? | ||
| Fewer and fewer every year. | ||
| Every year one major studio closes. | ||
| New York City doesn't even... | ||
| I mean, New York City had the Cadillac recording studios all over and they're just like... | ||
| They don't have them anymore? | ||
| No, they just really don't exist anymore. | ||
| Electric Lady is like the spot, but that was open a month before Hendrix died and... | ||
| Some great shit's been made there, but it's... | ||
| No, I mean like earlier, kind of golden age. | ||
| Yeah, it's not like golden age. | ||
| 50s, 60s. | ||
| Yeah, that's the cool thing about Abbey Road. | ||
| You go in there and, I mean... | ||
| Nothing's changed. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| We recorded a little TV show there once, a British show. | ||
| Where they'd be set up in a Beatles room and, you know, do your thing. | ||
| They had that echo chamber where they said they would go and smoke weed before the takes and stuff. | ||
| Does it feel weird to be walking around where the Beatles were hanging out? | ||
| Oh yeah, of course. | ||
| What does it feel like? | ||
| I mean, to be in the studio, to walk the stairs, there's one tiny little staircase that you have to go up and down to go to the control room. | ||
| So you'd play, run up the stairs to go listen to playback. | ||
| We were doing the same routine. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's just, it's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, it's amazing. | ||
| Imagine if you could see it in a documentary, if they showed you them doing it, and then you guys doing it years later. | ||
| Going down the same stairs, you know, in the same legendary building. | ||
| There's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake, and he has this concept that he promotes called Morphic Resonance. | ||
| And part of it is that, like, I'm gonna butcher this. | ||
| Part of it is that everything has, like, some sort of memory to it. | ||
| Everything does. | ||
| Including, like, objects have memories. | ||
| It's one of the reasons I think... | ||
| Well, think about what recording studios have. | ||
| Like, those magical moments that were one-take, one-of-a-kind moments. | ||
| And everybody was there, like, reveling in it, like, fuck yeah! | ||
| And that's, like, burned into the walls. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
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And... | |
| Countless hours of that, decade after decade, with different kinds of musicians, and different backgrounds, and different fucking styles, and burned into the walls. | ||
| I definitely kind of like to believe in that. | ||
| There's been some... | ||
| I've never been in a room that I thought was pretty haunted, but I've been around objects, at least like... | ||
| Felt like there was something, you know, going on with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, especially certain instruments, you know, like it's not like it's like, there's a, you hold it, you can tell it's something, you know, or some freaky ass fucking furniture or something. | ||
| I don't believe in ghosts, but I don't not believe in ghosts. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| You know, if there really were ghosts, like if it's a very rare occurrence that something pops over from the dimension of the dead for a quick second or two and freaks you out and pops back over, I don't think that would be weird. | ||
| I think life is weird. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| The fact that we come out of vaginas, the fact that we have a finite lifespan, the fact that we're hurling through infinity on a spinning rock, all those things. | ||
| How the fuck would ghosts be any weirder than the reality of life? | ||
| Like, every now and then, when someone dies, they leave, like, behind an echo. | ||
| And that echo, you see it, like, running across the field, and you can't believe your eyes. | ||
| Why is that weird? | ||
| Being alive is weird. | ||
| Ghosts ain't shit. | ||
| We're with you, man. | ||
| You know, I do feel like whenever I've been around something that felt like kind of supernatural, the memory of it just gets distorted and changed very quickly. | ||
| It's like, what the fuck did I just see? | ||
| And then you diminish it in your mind. | ||
| You rationalize what it was. | ||
| Your blimp. | ||
| The blimp story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, what if you didn't notice that it was a blimp? | ||
| What if you really freaked out and you ran into the bathroom? | ||
| For the rest of your life, you had a story about almost being abducted when you were a kid. | ||
| That's totally possible. | ||
| I was driving in Ohio at dusk once, and I saw this fucking huge ball of fires flying through the fucking air. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| I stopped my car in the middle of the road, and everybody started honking at me like, you should go. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| This is a giant flaming ball flying over northeast Ohio. | ||
| This is, like, 2001. And I told everybody, like, I saw, like, this thing, and it was like, nah, man. | ||
| And then the next day, there was a little blurb in the newspaper, like, other people had seen this thing. | ||
| But it was like, now when I talk about it, like, what did I really, what the fuck was it? | ||
| It's just, like, it was so... | ||
| Jarring. | ||
| Jarring, yeah. | ||
| That your memory is distorted. | ||
| I've had a lot of things like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Anything that's supernatural. | ||
| When I was in the woods once in Alberta, I saw a wolf. | ||
| I thought it was a wolf. | ||
| For a second, it was a squirrel. | ||
| I was like, I saw a wolf. | ||
| Like, I thought first, I saw a gray moving quickly, and I thought maybe it was something behind those trees and larger, and I was only seeing a piece of, no, it was running on the log, and it was just gray. | ||
| I was like, okay. | ||
| But for a second, not even a second, but like, whatever the initial thing is, I literally thought I was seeing a wolf. | ||
| And then I realized it was a squirrel. | ||
| There's this show called The Jules Holland Show. | ||
| It's a British show, and bands play live. | ||
| And we played it the first time, and Paul McCartney was on it, playing. | ||
| And I called my dad afterwards. | ||
| I was like, I just met a Beatle. | ||
| And he's like, what was he like? | ||
| I was like, how many? | ||
| He's like, tall and... | ||
| Like, my image of Paul McCartney was instantly distorted than what I actually saw. | ||
| I was just like, Dan's like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| I was like, his head was big and... | ||
| I was like, literally, my brain saw Paul McCartney and was just like, larger than life. | ||
| The thing about the alien abduction thing is the same thing as the night terror thing. | ||
| It all comes from people laying down. | ||
| A giant percentage of these stories come from either people that are asleep in a car or fall asleep in a car or people that are asleep at their home. | ||
| And I think there's probably something to all these chemicals that your brain produces that create dreams. | ||
| And that people, when they're going into that little realm, when they're sleeping, there's some fucking sketchy times in there, and you can convince yourself that you're getting transported through fucking walls. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| But it doesn't remove the possibility that there really are aliens here either. | ||
| Because if I was an alien, I would for sure watch us. | ||
| I'm a human and I can't take my eyes off Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. | ||
| Imagine if you were from another planet and you were trying to pay attention to how fucked up we are. | ||
| Like, look at these people. | ||
| Look at this fucking disaster they have going on here. | ||
| Oh my god, they're over the fucking brink of war for almost nothing. | ||
| Or if you're intelligent enough to hurl yourself light years away from your own planet, you might show up here and be like, man, everyone's a complete idiot. | ||
| But then again, we like to watch that on TV. And when I say the brink of war for almost nothing, what I mean is that it didn't have to happen. | ||
| This is like Russia doing that, invading Ukraine. | ||
| There's no reason to do that. | ||
| The whole thing is insane that we're that close to a hot war again. | ||
| It freaks me the fuck out all the time. | ||
| Because I'm like, this doesn't have to happen. | ||
| This totally didn't have to happen. | ||
| It's not like somebody launched missiles at you. | ||
| There's been some back and forth. | ||
| This is an invasion. | ||
| That's what's so weird about it. | ||
| Watching a country get invaded by Russia is like, whoa! | ||
| It's odd, man. | ||
| It's fucking weird, and I think it ramps up the normal level of anxiety of people, like, many points. | ||
| I know it does mine, because I'm like, you know, it's been a while, nothing seems to have happened. | ||
| I'm like, you can get real comfortable, like, thinking it's going to be fine. | ||
| Eh, nothing's going to happen. | ||
| It's all a bunch of bluster, and then all of a sudden, boom, boom. | ||
| We were on tour in Europe in 2014 when that airliner got shot down over Ukraine. | ||
| It made me feel really weird. | ||
| Still, does anybody know what happened there? | ||
| I don't know what the true story is, because you have an explanation, an official explanation. | ||
| I think they said it was an accident. | ||
| Isn't that what they said? | ||
| By who? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure there's some information about it, but I'm not aware of it. | ||
| Are you aware of it? | ||
| Do you remember the story? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I remember it happening when we were there. | ||
| I mean, I didn't remember it until you just mentioned that. | ||
| Every country is run by a bunch of fucking psychos. | ||
| They're all trying to out-psycho each other. | ||
| If we could just all get along here. | ||
| It's weird when you're far away from home and something crazy happens. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's really... | ||
| Well, how about those people that got on the road when 9-11 happened and they couldn't get home? | ||
| Because there was no flying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I know people that were renting cars and driving all the way across the country. | ||
| Because there was a time period of, I don't remember how many days, where there was no flying. | ||
| It was like a week at least, I think. | ||
| Because I saw something flying when that happened in Akron. | ||
| It's one of those things where... | ||
| It's one of those memories that's just, like, all distorted. | ||
| But it was during the no-fly zone, whatever the fuck was going on. | ||
| It was right over... | ||
| It was near Lorain, Ohio, which is where the FAA headquarters, where they track all the flights are. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| It was driving... | ||
| My girlfriend back to college. | ||
| She went to Oberlin College. | ||
| And it's like middle of nowhere. | ||
| Same road, actually, where I saw this flaming ball. | ||
| Like, literally. | ||
| It was like a day later or something. | ||
| It's nighttime. | ||
| I was driving, and I saw this light hovering above a house. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck is that? | ||
| And I was driving the Ford Escort stick shift. | ||
| And I put it into neutral and rolled down the windows. | ||
| And I was looking at this fucking thing hovering above this house a couple hundred feet above it. | ||
| Just like, what the fuck is it? | ||
| Scared the shit out of me. | ||
| I was like, my girlfriend at the time had a cell phone. | ||
| I was like, turn your cell phone on. | ||
| This isn't normal. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck it is. | ||
| The minute her Nextel logo popped up, the thing just, not at a supernatural, crazy speed, but fast as fuck, and silently, it just left. | ||
| So the moment her cell phone came on, it left? | ||
| Left. | ||
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Left. | |
| Do you think it was a drone? | ||
| Do you think it's like some experimental aircraft they're working on? | ||
| I mean, the drones didn't exist in 2001 that I knew of. | ||
| But if I think back, it was something like that. | ||
| Had to have been. | ||
| Well, I don't know when drones were invented. | ||
| Do you know when drones were invented? | ||
| I bet they were around. | ||
| For sure they were around. | ||
| Military versions of them, right? | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When all this stuff happened, when Tom DeLonge came to our show and really freaked me out, I ended up getting in touch with someone who worked for the Department of Energy. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| How's that conversation go? | ||
| Basically, they were like, the amount of money that the government spends on technology is so astounding that there's technology created every year that's harmful because it will destabilize the world. | ||
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Jeez. | |
| And, like, the fact that it exists, you can't even acknowledge that it exists, but every country kind of has it. | ||
| And these things are so fucking terrifying. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That, like, you can't even talk about them existing. | ||
| So the idea of, like, disinformation, that it's an alien or something, that's... | ||
| What this person was saying. | ||
| But they were like, you know, if you have to figure like that there's like, you know, 500 billion or whatever it is, dollars spent on military and, you know, like 60% of it or something is like black projects. | ||
| No one even knows where it's going. | ||
| They're just like, yeah, you know. | ||
| And if you think about the amount of money that we've spent on military, it's like, it's kind of insane. | ||
| But then that's when I realized like, oh yeah, like, The world we live in, and that's where I kind of had this thing where I was like, oh, no shit. | ||
| We tax ourselves to pay the money back to ourselves. | ||
| It's like we've created our own inferno of cash to keep the economy where it is. | ||
| We have such a large economy because we're spending our own money on our own shit. | ||
| So there's like, oh, okay. | ||
| I'm very concerned about where all this goes because I wonder if like our reliance on technology as well as like these these weapons that they're developing that can go faster than the speed of sound by many times it could take turns and who knows what else they have who knows what antimatter weapons with fucking Dude, the deepfake stuff? | ||
| Everyone's like, oh, it's funny to make Tom Cruise, anybody, like, Tom Cruise, like, that's, like... | ||
| So good. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's funny, but, hey, that's, like, it's already out. | ||
| They've been doing that. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kendrick Lamar just released a video, like, today or yesterday. | ||
| It's just all deepfakes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| What is him doing? | ||
| It's just him turning into different people. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Jussie Smollett. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Will Smith. | ||
| Yeah, we're not going to have any idea what's true. | ||
| This is a short amount of time. | ||
| Unless you take the brain chip. | ||
| With the brain chip, we're all going to be fine. | ||
| We'll be synced up together. | ||
| There'll be no lying. | ||
| Do it for everyone else. | ||
| Get the brain chip. | ||
| Come on, Pat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get the brain chip. | ||
| I think we're going to become aliens. | ||
| And I'm not kidding. | ||
| Is this Kendrick Lamar's video? | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That is so weird. | ||
| That is so good. | ||
| Look how good it is now. | ||
| Oh my god, it's Kanye. | ||
| I mean, how good is this technology now? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's a lot better than when Snoop Dogg morphed into the Doberman Pinscher or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, remember that? | ||
| It's almost perfect. | ||
| It's almost perfect, right? | ||
| Like, maybe if it was, like, really well lit and in high resolution, you'd be able to detect some weirdness. | ||
| But the way it's lit here, it's perfect. | ||
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Like, that Will Smith, that's so strange! | |
| God, that's crazy. | ||
| That's so strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| How long before we can actually make one of those? | ||
| Like, make a person that you see on television. | ||
| Like, I like you. | ||
| I'm gonna make one, just like you. | ||
| Keep it in my house. | ||
| Like, what the fuck, man? | ||
| How long before that happens where they can make artificial versions of a person? | ||
| I think they'll have a reasonable facsimile of a human being in about 30 or 40 years. | ||
| They'll be fake people. | ||
| I like the conspiracy theory that Elon bought Twitter so that he could perfect his AI. I don't know if that's a good... | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think what he really wants to do is try to balance out the idea that people should be able to speak. | ||
| Oh, I think so. | ||
| I think that's the real thing. | ||
| But maybe he's working on AI too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Both can be true. | ||
| Both can be true. | ||
| When you're talking about AI, what should they do? | ||
| Should they not do AI at all because it's eventually going to be smarter than us and take over? | ||
| Or should they get ahead of it to figure out how to stop it from taking over the world before it does? | ||
| It's beyond my pay-grant. | ||
| Does not compute. | ||
| That's the big fear, though. | ||
| The big fear is that artificial intelligence is gonna become sentient. | ||
| It's gonna make its own decisions and decide that we're irrelevant and just eliminate us. | ||
| We cause problems where we're shutting the power off on it and trying to kill it. | ||
| When SkyNet comes online. | ||
| Yeah, that might be... | ||
| Look, Elon's scared of that shit. | ||
| When someone as smart as him is scared of that shit, I start thinking about it. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| That's what I'm worried about with all this Pentagon UFO type stuff. | ||
| It's really just some drones, some things they've been developing. | ||
| My favorite thing was, like, you know, people were talking about, like, Russian disinformation propaganda on social media, and I'm like, wait, the whole thing is fucked with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, everything, you know, like, I don't, I... I don't know. | ||
| Every side's being fucked with. | ||
| Yeah, everything's fucked with. | ||
| Propaganda's all... | ||
| That's why social media, to me, yesterday was Mother's Day, and I was just like, man, this is... | ||
| I feel guilty not posting something about my own mom, but what do I... The whole thing's confusing. | ||
| Then you sit there and you see people posting about Ukraine, and it's like, what the fuck? | ||
| I honestly, I just don't... | ||
| I just feel like people are compelled to, like, you know, some sort of algorithms compelling people to, like, I don't know, take sides, get involved with shit. | ||
| I think that that's all part of it, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, to really feel strongly about something, like, that maybe someone otherwise wouldn't be. | ||
| Like, someone I've never mentioned, I've heard mentioned, like, Ukraine or something now, like, posting the thing, wearing the pin, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, the U.S. just invaded, like, a couple countries and destroyed them. | ||
| A friend of mine was in the military, and he went to, you know, he's part of the Iraq War, multiple tours over there. | ||
| He's like, yeah, that was, like, the most pointless fucking thing the U.S. has ever done. | ||
| He's like, Afghanistan? | ||
| Worthwhile, but the Iraq thing was very bizarre. | ||
| Well, the fact that so many people thought there was actually weapons of mass destruction over there, and there weren't. | ||
| But it's, you know, there's no arguing that Saddam Hussein was a terrible person either, though. | ||
| It's so confusing. | ||
| But if you want to become the policeman for the world, we're going to get in a lot of fights. | ||
| There's a lot of fights out there to be had. | ||
| Unless someone knows the Avengers. | ||
| I don't think this is a good idea. | ||
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It doesn't seem like a good idea. | |
| Yeah, we can barely keep it together over here. | ||
| We're holding on tooth and claw to democracy over here. | ||
| Yeah, that's why I've always felt like, you know, it's just like it's so easy to be a hypocrite. | ||
| Not to the point, I don't want to be like too cynical, where it's like you shouldn't feel anything about anything, but like there's always another side to it. | ||
| There's always something else going on. | ||
| And when you see something like Russia invading Ukraine, It's hard to then also look at, you know, the human rights violations are all around the world, you know, and that we're buying our phones from places that are, you know... | ||
| Basically, having almost forced labor. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's too much for me to fucking process. | ||
| But I do think there's mass manipulation just in general. | ||
| Social media, it's guilty before innocent and it's just harsh and the whole thing. | ||
| Watching what happened to you the last couple months was just ridiculous. | ||
| And infuriating. | ||
| I got into so many arguments about it because I listen to your show pretty religiously. | ||
| I love the fact that you highlight so many different points of view. | ||
| And I never took the show as being anti-whatever. | ||
| Anti-vax. | ||
| Anti-vax. | ||
| And to hear people close to me saying, oh yeah, it's like horse glue or whatever the fuck, you know, horse dewormer. | ||
| I was like, You know what? | ||
| That's actually ridiculous because he must not listen to the show because he just... | ||
| That's not really what the message has been about. | ||
| But I think that there's a lot of that, man. | ||
| People just get on board and don't understand the whole fucking situation all the time. | ||
| Well, people were scared. | ||
| It was in the middle of a pandemic and the anxiety was higher than ever. | ||
| And when they felt that someone was being an idiot, they were very aggressive about it. | ||
| It became a different way of communicating. | ||
| And if... | ||
| Someone wants to push a narrative that you're taking veterinary medicine, and they just get it out there. | ||
| It gets out there, and all these people go, God! | ||
| And then they just respond, and then you get chaos. | ||
| You know, I took a series of medications that my doctor prescribed, and they worked. | ||
| And I was better in a few days. | ||
| Made for some good memes. | ||
| Yeah, made for some good memes. | ||
| But it was only one of the things that I took. | ||
| I took monoclonal antibodies, too. | ||
| I said that, too. | ||
| I said that in all of it. | ||
| But you come to realize it's not about news. | ||
| It's not about telling the truth. | ||
| It's about these weird narratives that are trying to get to move people in one direction or the other. | ||
| And it's shocking how easy it is to get people to move. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Weird how easy it is to get people to comply, even if it's for their own good. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not. | ||
| But it's weird how so many people barked at the people behind them, barked at the people that were non-compliant. | ||
| How many people, like in LA, they were actually giving you money to snitch on people? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, they were telling you they'll give you money if you snitch on your neighbors who are having parties when they're not supposed to have parties. | ||
| Like, what kind of fucking Orwell world are you willing to accept Just for this one thing, like if this is a test run to see how people respond to a real pandemic, a real terrifying one, like the Spanish flu or like the Black Plague or something crazy, well guess what? | ||
| We got an F. We got an F on one that doesn't even... | ||
| I mean, it's mostly old people and people with comorbidities and some young people, but it's not... | ||
| It's not as bad as the Black Plague. | ||
| It's not as bad as bubonic plague and all these different fucking diseases that ravaged humanity, smallpox, killed 90% of the Native Americans. | ||
| I mean, if one of those fucking hits us, shit. | ||
| With all this democracy as we know it, it's going to evaporate. | ||
| If you go to L.A. tomorrow for the first time in a long time, LA's making a comeback. | ||
| It's like slowly relaxing. | ||
| LA's just heightened state of anxiety is still a little above Nashville for sure, but they're coming back to normal. | ||
| Yeah, I'm curious to see what the scene's like. | ||
| Haven't been there in a minute. | ||
| No. | ||
| Be careful out there. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| The West is wild again. | ||
| We're playing at the Troubadour. | ||
| Oh, that's a great spot. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| Tom DeLonge said to me, I just remembered. | ||
| He said to me, he's like, within 60 or 90 days, this is like early October 2019, he's like, in 60 to 90 days, something's going to happen that's going to change the world forever in a very, very profound way. | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| He's like, just mark my words. | ||
| And then like, dude, when I first started seeing videos of the Wuhan lockdown, I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| Like, you could say that literally any other time in my life, and like, okay, 9-11, right? | ||
| But no other time would it be like that. | ||
| And he was like, it was in 60 to 90 days. | ||
| Why was he being so cryptic about what it was going to be? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But he said that he had information. | ||
| And the virus hit early December, so he was right. | ||
| I doubt he thinks of anything other than UFOs. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that's why I don't know. | ||
| He's not interested in other conspiracies as well, is he? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's pretty much all in on the UFO one. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| But he did say that to me. | ||
| What if he's right? | ||
| What if he's right? | ||
| He was convincing to the point where I was on stage in front of, you know, 15,000 people having an existential crisis. | ||
| Like, what's it mean? | ||
| Why did I even play this show? | ||
| There's aliens watching this, everything. | ||
| Well, that's what freaked me out the most about communion. | ||
| The idea that they could be so intelligent and so, like, so able to avoid our detection that they could just capture you at any time and take you and no one would know and everyone's paralyzed and everyone, you know, everyone's memory gets erased. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| yeah dude oh yeah yeah yeah I just I remember checking books out from the library when I was a kid and just like because you know being really little and just scaring the shit myself There's the tall whites. | ||
| There's the reptilians. | ||
| They all live. | ||
| There's the greys. | ||
| Men in black. | ||
| There's the men in black. | ||
| It's like. | ||
| It might be real, but God damn, it's fun. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's our boogeyman. | ||
| It's our monster. | ||
| I was so cynical by the time I was 13 when X-Files came out. | ||
| I was like, this is disinformation. | ||
| Straight up. | ||
| And forget about it. | ||
| When Men in Black came out, I was like, give me a fucking break. | ||
| They're getting us ready. | ||
| Getting us ready. | ||
| How much of Bob Lazar talking have you listened to? | ||
| I saw him on here. | ||
| I've seen a few things. | ||
| What did you think? | ||
| You have a good bullshit detection. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I love the idea that there's a, you know, thousands and thousands, like they found in an archaeological site. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I love the idea. | ||
| It's a great plot. | ||
| It's a great plot. | ||
| I'd see that movie. | ||
| I have seen that movie, I feel like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| A few times. | ||
| But he said this in, he was saying this in 1989? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| The part that blows my mind, wasn't his wife having an affair, right? | ||
| This is what happened. | ||
| He had top secret clearance because he was working at S4 on some propulsion system he claims that was back engineering a UFO. To have the kind of clearance that he had to work on that, they had to constantly monitor his phone. | ||
| They found out that his wife was having an affair, so they had to terminate his employment. | ||
| He couldn't get an answer as to why they terminated his employment. | ||
| So then he would take his friends, like, look, I'm telling you, I was working on fucking UFOs. | ||
| So he takes his friend to this mountain. | ||
| They film it. | ||
| They get arrested because you're not supposed to be out there. | ||
| And then he goes on the news because he thinks they're going to kill him. | ||
| So he goes on the news and tells everybody that he was working on back-engineered UFOs. | ||
| And he's only doing this because he wants to get this out because otherwise they're going to kill him. | ||
| So he has to talk about it. | ||
| So he tells the story, and this is where it gets weird, because he's been consistent with the story. | ||
| He tells it exactly the same way for 30 fucking years. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| I'm more inclined to believe it than the lumberjack that disappeared four days ago. | ||
| That's Travis Walton. | ||
| He's from near where my wife's from in Arizona. | ||
| He didn't seem like he was bullshitting either. | ||
| You know, I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know either. | ||
| I don't know, but it's fun. | ||
| I want to believe, I'll tell you that. | ||
| That's what scares me about it. | ||
| I don't want to think that we're the only ones. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| I want to think that something way smarter is watching us the whole time and things beyond your imagination are taking place in the cosmos. | ||
| That's what I want to think. | ||
| Well, people believe, you know, I mean, like the other day, someone just like, without any, they totally believe this. | ||
| They're like, they're talking about Murfreesboro, which is a town near Nashville. | ||
| Like, yeah, some guy there invented a car that runs on water. | ||
| It's on display. | ||
| Like, matter of fact, that's the world we live in. | ||
| That guy believes that someone invented a car that runs on water, and it's just like on display. | ||
| There was a guy who invented a car that walked on water that went to a restaurant and said, they poisoned me, they killed me, and he died. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You hear about that guy? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| I need to know if this is true. | ||
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It's true. | |
| It is true. | ||
| It happened outside of Columbus in Grove City. | ||
| But did they ever prove that his water engine actually works? | ||
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Oh, that part of it. | |
| Because he said he developed an engine that ran on water. | ||
| We no longer need to use oil for engines. | ||
| Here is an article. | ||
| I didn't read through this yet. | ||
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I'm just saying. | |
| I just pulled it up. | ||
| It seems a tad suspicious lad. | ||
| After more than 20 years of research and tinkering, it was time to celebrate Stanley Alan Meyer, his brother, and two Belgian investors raised glasses in the Grove City Cracker Barrel on March 20, 1998. Meyer said his invention could do what physicists said is impossible, turn water into hydrogen fuel effectively enough to drive his dune buggy cross-country on 20 gallons straight from the tap. | ||
| He took a sip of cranberry juice, then grabbed his neck and bolted out the door, dropped to his knees, and vomited violently. | ||
| I ran outside and asked him what's wrong. | ||
| His brother Stephen Meyer recalled, he said, they poisoned me. | ||
| That was his dying declaration. | ||
| He had no assistants or nobody else he worked with? | ||
| Well, it sounds like he was a broke guy who came up with an amazing invention. | ||
| Or, this is all bullshit. | ||
| It could easily be this is all bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, who orders cranberry juice? | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| People with UTIs. | ||
| Yeah, what do you have, a UTI? That's like a... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a beverage for someone in recovery. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's an odd choice unless you have vodka in it. | ||
| Yeah, like give me something that tastes like shit, please. | ||
| People like vodka cranberry, don't they? | ||
| That's a common beverage. | ||
| I mean, like in the 80s. | ||
| Yeah, so that might have been true, that the guy might have actually had, you know? | ||
| Listen, all I do know is, we should probably wrap this up, and I had a great fucking time with you guys as always. | ||
| Thank you again for amazing music. | ||
| Your new album is out, what day is it again? | ||
| It's out Friday the 13th. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Friday the 13th. | ||
| Dropout Boogie. | ||
| Thanks for having us on, Joe. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| And this album is fucking awesome. | ||
| And here's a tour, and the tour is... | ||
| Is that on your website? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, you guys are all over the place. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| All available online. | ||
| Is it blackkeys.com? | ||
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What do you got? | |
| Theblackkeys.com. | ||
| I think if you just Google Black Keys, it should show up. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. |
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