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March 24, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1796 - Ali Siddiq
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joe rogan
What's happening?
ali siddiq
What's happening?
unidentified
How are you?
joe rogan
Good to see you.
ali siddiq
Man, good to be seen, man.
Glad you're here.
joe rogan
You were telling me about the gauntlet you've been running with masks.
ali siddiq
Oh, man.
I don't know if people know.
It's harder for people that's in the business right now than regular civilians if you're doing any type of work.
joe rogan
You mean show business?
ali siddiq
Show business.
Yes, because they want a mask on you.
As soon as you finish delivering your lines, they want you to put that mask back on.
Before you go to makeup, they want you to...
Man, it's insane.
joe rogan
Is it standard, though?
Is that like every production?
ali siddiq
That's every production.
joe rogan
Really?
ali siddiq
They are masked up.
joe rogan
But it doesn't have to be a good mask.
ali siddiq
No, it doesn't have to be a good mask.
joe rogan
So it's just a gesture.
ali siddiq
You could use your sleeve, just cover your face.
Longer stuff that's over your face.
joe rogan
Can you have a bandana like a bandit?
ali siddiq
Yeah, like you could just pull up, just pull, you don't even, your shirt, just pull your shirt over your face.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so stupid.
ali siddiq
They need you to have a mask.
And I understand people catching, I don't know if people believe as much as they did.
Like, I'm willing to cross the line a lot now since I'm...
Once I knew how COVID was, it's like I had COVID in the beginning, like full-fledged.
joe rogan
You had it longer than anybody I've ever known.
I've never known anybody who tested positive as long as you did.
It was like 30 how many days?
ali siddiq
32 straight days.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
ali siddiq
When I heard negative, I was so elated.
Like, what?
Negative?
And...
I think once I've had it, and I had the full blast, like the shotgun to the face when it was new.
They didn't even have a vaccination.
They didn't know what to do.
joe rogan
No medicine.
ali siddiq
No medicine.
No tricks.
You couldn't even listen to people who didn't even know what they were talking about.
They didn't even know what to say.
Like, man, I don't know what to do.
I can make up something, but I can't even really...
I don't know!
The bleach, when he said the bleach, it was like, eh, possible.
unidentified
Right.
ali siddiq
I was in that room long enough to be like, yo, if this lady leave this cleaner supply bucket by me, I'm going for the bleach.
I'm taking it.
You never know.
You never know.
She can work.
So...
Now, any variant I hear about now, I feel like is weak.
Like, okay, come on.
Come on, new COVID. They are weak now.
joe rogan
I got the new one.
The new one was nothing.
It was nothing.
I couldn't believe it was COVID. I came in here, I had a snuffly nose, and I was saying to the nurse, just joking around, maybe I got it, maybe I got it.
She's like, you're not going to fucking believe this.
You're positive.
I'm like, what?
I go, this is COVID? This is the new COVID? It's so weak.
ali siddiq
The new COVID is like the new NBA. It's like the new NFL. It's like so soft.
It's like, okay, LeBron, hey, I'm not going to say he's not going to end up being the greatest player, but it's still going to be that if you didn't play against the bad boys or the Knicks, I'm still doubting your toughness.
I'm still going to doubt it because basketball is soft now.
You can travel.
I Have you watched basketball lately?
Not lately.
What's going on?
Standard basketball, how it was invented.
Once you catch the ball, you have two steps and you're supposed to be in the air.
Oh no.
Just for showmanship alone, we'll give you at least six.
Come on.
Really?
The Joker, yesterday he got a bounce pass.
It was like step, step, Step and then jump.
Like, that's travel, sir.
But it was an open dunk.
Give it to him.
LeBron travels all the time.
Really?
Everybody who you think is great, if the referees...
That's why I don't even...
If somebody complains a referee, I'd be like, really?
He's let you get away with like 19 bank robbers and he calls you for one.
And then now all of a sudden you're like, man, are you insane?
But if it was old refs, remember the old white guy that everybody used to get mad at?
But he was a real ref.
Hey, that's a foul.
You can't do that, sir.
That's a foul.
Hey, so you took 24 steps.
What you want from me?
But now it's like, oh, flagrant.
You're out here cursing, sir.
But you are.
I let you travel.
I let you push that man down.
I let you DDT a man.
I let you DDT an actual human being and I never called anything.
Sir, you were hanging on the rim.
You went in the stands, ate popcorn, came back.
I never called anything.
This is a flagrant.
joe rogan
I don't follow basketball, but how come rims stopped breaking?
How come the backboard stopped breaking?
Because remember Daryl Dawkins?
unidentified
Oh, he jumped up and smashed those things.
joe rogan
The game was over.
unidentified
It was glass.
joe rogan
They're not glass anymore?
ali siddiq
No, it's plexiglass.
And then they had these...
You know, remember when Shaq pulled a hole...
Like, Daryl Dawkins broke the glass.
And, you know, he's a big man coming up...
But Shaq, he brought down the whole entire rim.
Like the shock system.
Like he came down.
And then they reinforced all that.
They got better.
They like, no.
joe rogan
Have you seen Shaq lately?
ali siddiq
I haven't seen Shaq in person in probably about five or six years.
In person.
joe rogan
The last time I saw him in person was probably eight months ago.
But I saw him on the internet yesterday.
And he looks fucking great.
He's getting a six pack.
Shaq's lost a shitload of weight.
ali siddiq
He looks great.
joe rogan
He's got a six-pack.
ali siddiq
How old is Shaq?
joe rogan
50?
ali siddiq
Oh yeah, I gotta do it now.
I gotta do it.
I'm 48. I know I done trimmed all the way down.
Six-pack gotta be next.
Because I can't let Shaq Have a six-pack ever in his life and me not have one right now.
joe rogan
You should see it.
Find the pictures of Shaq lately.
He changed his diet.
Stopped eating bullshit.
Works out every day.
He trimmed his body down.
He looks good.
ali siddiq
I hurt my hand so it had stopped.
You see how that knuckle is like...
This knuckle is way up.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Look at that.
It's as if you can see it.
ali siddiq
Yeah, it's coming.
But look how big he look, though.
joe rogan
He's so big.
ali siddiq
Shaq look diesel.
Oh, I got to go in.
joe rogan
I think there's pictures of him that look better than that.
I know.
ali siddiq
I got to go in now.
Like, I thought I was going in, but I'm about to definitely go in.
joe rogan
Yeah, there he goes.
Looks pretty fucking good there on the right.
ali siddiq
That may be photoshopped.
joe rogan
That looks a little fake.
That one looks a little fake.
ali siddiq
His face not matching his body.
joe rogan
The ones that I saw was him working out.
It was, oh, it was that image down there.
You see the image of him doing the chin-up in the lower left-hand corner?
Right there.
See that?
Lower left-hand corner.
Drop right below that.
Below that.
To the right.
To the right.
Do one of him doing it right there.
Right there.
Click on that.
That's what it was from the New York Post.
So it had all these images of him looking.
So he quit eating sandwiches and quit eating bullshit.
And so they had all these images of him working out.
He lost a shitload of weight, though.
ali siddiq
But no nice.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Got to work with sponsors.
ali siddiq
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, I was watching you work out.
You can box.
ali siddiq
I got a little something.
joe rogan
You can box.
I was watching you throw your hands.
I was like, he knows what he's doing.
ali siddiq
Got a good trainer.
joe rogan
How long you been doing it?
ali siddiq
I don't count little, because that's what old men go back.
You know, when I was younger.
So, we're going to say a year.
Just back in the gym, trimming down, getting back in it, and start.
Because I wanted to fight Cat Williams so bad.
unidentified
Really?
ali siddiq
Yeah, man.
I just really wanted to just...
joe rogan
How'd you want to fight Cat Williams?
ali siddiq
He did some shit, and then when he said that he was the person that started celebrity boxing, and I said, cool, since you started celebrity boxing...
Nobody's ever seen you fight.
So since you started, why don't you fight somebody who wants to fight you?
He called out Kevin.
I think Kevin will win too, but why don't you fight somebody who want to actually fight you?
And that's the difference.
I would fight anybody who actually wanted to fight me.
No problem.
Let's fight.
Especially if I want to fight you too.
But Kat, I got a problem with Kat.
I just do.
What's your problem?
Some shit that he did, man.
I don't like people not being a man.
When you got something to say to me, just say it to me.
Don't do no shit like telling people I can't come in the arena and I just performed and you holding me out the arena?
What?
And they paid me outside?
What?
And then you never talked to me about it.
But the problem I have with that is when we was in Shreveport and somebody was about to fuck you up, I intervened.
I didn't let you sit out there like that.
I intervened.
joe rogan
How did this all get started?
ali siddiq
So what happened, I'm performing with Kat in Houston at the NRG Arena.
We do two shows, two different days.
And then the second day, I go outside to see one of my friends named Ghetto.
He outside.
I'm talking to him, so I get ready to come back in the arena.
The people, the security at the arena, they all locked arms.
And I'm walking in, they're like, Ollie, we can't let you back in the arena.
I'm like, what?
I'm in my hometown.
Like, y'all know me.
Like, there's people who know me.
They're like, can't let you back in the arena.
But my stuff's still in the green room.
Like, first of all, I don't know what's happening.
Like, what happened?
Let's go to that point.
Like, why can't I come back in the place that I just walked off?
Like, what's going on?
So Carl, this guy who works for Cat, comes in and he's talking over the people.
Like, he's talking over their shoulders.
Like, Cat say he don't want you back in the arena.
And now I'm like, who the fuck is Cat to tell me I can't come in the arena?
joe rogan
That you just worked in.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
But the thing is, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
joe rogan
Right.
ali siddiq
And you can come and say, hey man, I got this type of problem, X, Y, and Z. Man, if you don't mind.
I ain't got no problem with that.
But you can't direct somebody in my city to put me out.
Like, man, do you know who the fuck I am?
Like, for real?
Like, for real?
All the rest of that other shit out the way.
Like, do you know who the fuck I am?
Like, for real, for real.
Like, in these streets.
Like, that's the fucking problem with me.
Like, and then you...
joe rogan
But I don't understand.
Like, what?
There was no dispute?
ali siddiq
No!
joe rogan
You have no idea why?
ali siddiq
It's like me walking out of this room right now to get some water and come back in and he said, Joe, say he don't want you back in the studio.
joe rogan
So no explanation.
But Kat's known to be crazy.
ali siddiq
Still to this day, I have no explanation for this shit.
joe rogan
He's a funny motherfucker.
He is funny as shit.
But he's known to be crazy.
And it's part of why he's funny.
I mean, he's just out of his fucking mind.
ali siddiq
It's like this.
You can be known to be something that you're not.
Not crazy.
joe rogan
You don't think he's crazy?
ali siddiq
But when you do shit that you think that you don't have to answer for.
Like, it'll be a space that we'll eventually be in.
Like, this is the danger in this shit.
Because it's like this.
Because I know better than to leave something fucked up in the streets.
I know better than that.
That's like a street rule.
You don't ever leave something unsettled in the streets.
Because you never know what that person, how that person feels about that shit.
Benny Blanco from the Bronx.
People always got to remember, in Kalito's way, you fucked up Benny Blanco.
And you threw Benny Blanco down them steps and all the rest of that.
Cool!
And you remember me?
Benny Blanco from the Bronx.
And blew his brains out.
I don't leave nothing unsettled in the streets.
Not with somebody who I don't know what they cable.
But you know.
You know.
Like, you punched a kid.
joe rogan
Well, the kid got him in a headlock.
ali siddiq
I punched a kid.
joe rogan
How old was that kid?
15?
ali siddiq
Like 14, 15. I don't even want this shit to be...
Because it's just me.
I'm not finna call no entourage.
I'm not finna call no other people.
See, when you're not a man, that's what you do.
You call somebody else to settle your disputes.
I'm a man.
Whenever you see me...
unidentified
But this is what's confusing.
joe rogan
It's like you don't even know what the dispute is.
That doesn't make any sense.
ali siddiq
And that's the thing.
You left it blank.
And that's what you can't do.
You can't leave it blank.
joe rogan
That doesn't make sense.
ali siddiq
You should have said what the dispute was.
Ali, I put you out the arena for this reason.
Understood.
joe rogan
So you had done a bunch of shows.
How many shows you done with him?
ali siddiq
This was just this.
It was just two days.
joe rogan
You've done many shows with him in the past?
ali siddiq
Nah, maybe like four in total.
joe rogan
Four?
So just two days.
You do...
Is this the second day?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And he says...
ali siddiq
This is a Friday.
This is a Friday.
We did a show on that Thursday.
This was a Friday.
It was in February.
Back in 2009. I still remember.
joe rogan
You haven't seen him since?
ali siddiq
I've been places where I thought he was at and I beelined in the shit and he wasn't there.
Because see now, I don't even feel it's necessary for it to be I want it for a bag, though.
Like, I want to make some money doing it.
joe rogan
Is there money in that?
Like, people are making good money in celebrity boxing?
ali siddiq
Man, fucking, this dude, I did some research, and this dude, he was in a boxing match with somebody.
They ain't even real big celebrities.
He took this shit on two weeks notice for $150,000 for a four-round fight that's goddamn a minute.
It's not even a real fight like that.
joe rogan
Like a minute rounds?
ali siddiq
It's like a minute 30 or some shit like that.
$150,000?
Dancing Danny Dave or some shit was his name.
People getting money for this shit.
I'm like, I'll go in and settle a dispute for $250,000.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Do you think Kat would do that?
ali siddiq
Once you said you started celebrity boxing, that's what...
joe rogan
How could he say he did that?
Is he joking around?
ali siddiq
I don't know.
He said that shit for real in a real interview.
I started celebrity boxing, and I'm like, go!
That's the ticket.
That's the ticket.
If you want to settle a dispute...
And you got some problem with somebody, take that shit to Triller or whoever want to buy it.
And boom, you make the money like that instead of you having to be in the street and the shit being violent.
That's how I see it.
Get a bag for doing it.
joe rogan
Well, that definitely makes more sense.
ali siddiq
Makes absolute perfect sense to me.
joe rogan
But he's a small fella.
Like, he's not very large.
He's quite a bit smaller than you, isn't he?
ali siddiq
I don't know.
joe rogan
Cat?
ali siddiq
Maybe about 5'2", 5'4", 5' whatever he say.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
I'm 5'7".
joe rogan
But he's not athletic either, right?
ali siddiq
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
ali siddiq
You know, he acts athletic.
You know, and that's the thing.
Street dudes, where I was from, you know, in my age group, all street dudes was athletic.
Like, they did everything.
Like, I don't know one street person that didn't do...
He played everything.
Like, baseball.
If he couldn't do the shit well, he still knew how to do it.
unidentified
Right.
ali siddiq
But you can't be no street dude and be...
Like, I know cats who rap right now that say they street dudes, but you can't catch.
unidentified
Like, what type of motherfucker you can't catch?
ali siddiq
Like, I watch some of these new celebrity games.
You're like, yo, what type of...
Growing up, I was in Rock and Jock.
And, like, BVD can actually hoop.
Like, these are some actually basketball playing dudes.
Like, now the new celebrity is, like, really...
Not physical.
Like, they don't play outside.
joe rogan
Do you remember they had that thing, Battle of the Superstars?
ali siddiq
Yes.
joe rogan
It was like ABC, Wide World of Sports or some shit like that.
Yes.
Actors.
ali siddiq
Why they don't do it no more?
unidentified
Because it's terrible.
ali siddiq
Because the country athletes are worse than that.
Like, just think.
Did you see 50 Cent throw a pitch?
unidentified
No.
ali siddiq
Oh, my goodness.
It made the national news.
This shit was so bad.
joe rogan
I feel like that's a setup.
Anytime you go to throw a pitch, almost nobody looks good throwing a pitch.
ali siddiq
Is this shit like...
joe rogan
Here it goes.
unidentified
Yowza!
Oh, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh my god.
ali siddiq
Goddamn!
You talk about not having a father!
Like, not even in the streets!
Like, I played bitch with you.
unidentified
I fucking love 50.
ali siddiq
But when he did that shit, I was like, you know something?
I got my son up right there.
Get your ass up.
We're going outside.
I know you six months.
unidentified
Get your ass up.
ali siddiq
We're going outside.
Good Lord.
joe rogan
You don't want that video out there.
There's so many people like that.
Fauci, you ever see Fauci throw a pitch?
ali siddiq
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Find Fauci throwing a pitch.
It's pretty...
50s might have been worse.
ali siddiq
Let me tell you, the other thing is, when you see people...
joe rogan
Dr. Fauci.
It's the same shit!
He's got a mask on too.
Look at him.
Outside with a mask on.
unidentified
Dr. Fossey threw a curve fist.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
That might be one of the worst.
And he's got a glove on too.
unidentified
He's got a glove on, bro.
joe rogan
Come on.
ali siddiq
They're not throwing it back to you.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
unidentified
He's waving off the catcher.
ali siddiq
I'm not actually waving you off.
I'm telling you where to go.
Go over there.
Because this is where the bar...
Fuck me right there.
Go!
What if you don't catch your shit at?
joe rogan
They're both throwing it in the same area.
It's like something's drawing the ball to that.
unidentified
Amen.
joe rogan
Some magnet of time.
ali siddiq
It's the worst thing.
Worse than pitches, what people don't get to see, because you see that video.
Most people don't video.
Have you ever seen somebody, a celebrity, they honoring them, and they had a basketball game, and they come out for charity to shoot the free throw?
And I'm like, damn.
I know them charity people are like, why?
Just say y'all don't want to give us the money.
Just say you want to give us a percentage of this shit.
joe rogan
Who's that?
jamie vernon
Stevie Wonder.
joe rogan
Oh, what?
ali siddiq
They wrong as shit.
Oh, that's terrible.
joe rogan
That's not right.
ali siddiq
Why would they do Stevie Wonder?
joe rogan
That's not right.
ali siddiq
That better be a blind school where everybody's blind.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
When you blind, they should have like a ray of golds.
joe rogan
All over the place.
ali siddiq
They just have these goals.
Like, what's them drums?
Like, when you play and you play all the drums?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
They should have that shit for when you're blind and you want to hoop.
They should put like six goals up there like, hey, you're going to hit something.
unidentified
Hopefully.
ali siddiq
Hopefully.
joe rogan
Imagine not knowing the distance of things, though.
jamie vernon
I just saw a guy blind playing golf today.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
His dad lines him up and he plays.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
No idea if he's good.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
He seems like he's not bad.
joe rogan
Do you think he used to have eyesight?
jamie vernon
I didn't listen to the video.
I was just sort of like watching it.
joe rogan
Oh, no, you didn't watch in person.
jamie vernon
It was an Instagram video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No, no.
jamie vernon
Sorry, yeah, no.
joe rogan
Jamie plays a lot of golf.
ali siddiq
But if you go on the internet, oh.
What's the...
What's the new dictator of North Korea?
You gonna like this?
joe rogan
Kim Jong-un?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
What's his daddy name?
joe rogan
Kim Jong-il.
ali siddiq
Kim Jong-il.
Okay.
Kim Jong-il.
I was having a discussion about Kim Jong-il.
You gonna like this, whoever plays golf.
Apparently, he was just...
He was such an amazing man.
And this is like...
Kim Jong-il.
This is like in his official documents.
Like, this is the things that he done in his official documents.
unidentified
Okay.
ali siddiq
That apparently when Kim Jong Il was born, all the birds in North Korea started singing in Korean.
Apparently.
I wasn't there.
I can't verify or deny.
I was there.
Apparently birds in North Korea, they can speak a dialect, maybe Brooklyn birds, rap.
I don't know.
But this is what I know that people are going to understand.
Kim Jong-il.
Apparently.
unidentified
Yeah.
11 holes in one.
ali siddiq
First time ever playing golf.
unidentified
First time ever.
ali siddiq
I was reading this.
I know white men have lost their mind if they ever read this shit.
11 holes in one.
First time ever playing golf.
joe rogan
He shot 38 under.
11 holes in one at the 7,700-yard championship course at Pyongyang in the very first golf round of his life, according to North Korea state media.
This was in 1994 when Kim was 52 years old.
Even more impressive, Kim stood just 5'3", yet he was able to overpower a course as long as any ever played in major championship history.
Who knows how good Kim could have been if he had taken up the sport earlier.
ali siddiq
Oh, can you go down and find in 2011?
This man is amazing.
In 2011, apparently, in the official documents, he created and invented the burrito in 2011. And then when I was reading that, all the rest of that shit, I was okay with it.
Because I wasn't there.
But when he claimed that he created the fucking burrito, I lost it.
I was like, what?
joe rogan
What does it say?
jamie vernon
The video's not related to the...
joe rogan
Oh, it's not...
Okay, just the video's unrelated.
ali siddiq
Kim Jong-il invented this burrito.
You didn't invent no damn burrito.
I've been eating burritos all my life.
joe rogan
When was the burrito officially invented?
It's got to be hundreds of years old.
ali siddiq
Came up with the burrito in 2011 before he died.
joe rogan
Before he died of a heart attack.
ali siddiq
I found the old Blockbuster movie because apparently I was having a Blockbuster night.
Inside that movie, it was a receipt.
From 1999. On that receipt, I ordered a Taco Supreme, which they got rid of, which I'm still mad at Taco Bell about that shit, and two burritos.
So that's in 1999. So how the hell did he invent it in 2009?
I was pissed.
I said, fuck your meal.
joe rogan
Can you imagine being over there and having to go along with that, though?
They have to go along with everything over there.
Like, when he died, they had to cry for days and days and days.
And if you didn't cry enough, they'd put you in jail for six months.
They felt like you weren't crying enough.
They just put you in jail.
Imagine growing up there.
ali siddiq
How are they measuring your tears?
joe rogan
You have to keep crying.
You ever see it?
They're wailing, like acting.
Watch this.
They show the people on the streets.
The people on the streets were just wailing.
Here they are.
Look at them.
They're just screaming and wailing.
ali siddiq
I don't want to be drinking nothing at this time.
unidentified
Because...
joe rogan
See, they have to do this.
Like, they have to scream and cry.
I had this lady on Yonmi Park.
unidentified
Did you see the stone face?
His ass is in jail right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy's going to jail.
That dude's going straight to jail.
They probably found him.
That guy.
Yeah, you're fucked, buddy.
unidentified
Them three.
Ah, them four.
ali siddiq
Ah, little pack.
joe rogan
That dude's looking sideways.
He's like, what the fuck is going on?
ali siddiq
One dude's just like, hey man, they finna arrest me.
You know they're right, cause we not crying.
joe rogan
Look at how they got old ass cars too.
They're taking them around like a 1979 Lincoln.
Look at that car.
That's ridiculous.
Can you imagine?
ali siddiq
What?
joe rogan
That's probably the best cars they have over there.
Like they're not inventing cars over there, right?
ali siddiq
I don't think they get them.
joe rogan
That is an old ass fucking car.
I had this lady, Yeonmi Park, and she escaped from North Korea when she was 13 years old.
Made it to China.
It's a terrifying story.
Terrifying story.
She was basically sold into sex slavery.
So was her mother.
She was 13. Made her way through China and eventually got to Europe and eventually got to South Korea.
South Korea eventually got to Europe and then to America.
But it's a crazy story.
ali siddiq
Being in South Korea and going to perform for the troops when they were, they were still in an active, considered active zone.
And the bus, the bus we were on, the street was right, you could see North Korea.
You could see how their fences and all their military stuff and the guns were following the Our little van.
It's like this street.
You're going up into these mountains.
And the dude was like, yeah, they keep an eye on us and we keep an eye on them.
It's like this is the line.
And when we went to perform, it was like all these dudes were just bald-headed.
Dude, it's like, yeah, we in the field.
And in the middle of my performance, they got cut short because they had to go back out or something.
But you see the people who's in the quote-unquote going into an active zone and performing.
And this black lieutenant, she was like, thank you for coming in.
She was like, she was over this squad.
She was like a real tough lady.
She gave me this coin.
This is a combat coin.
Thank you, but we have to go.
We appreciate it.
That's how she was talking, just like that.
I'm not making fun of her voice.
She was like, appreciate you.
And they was gone.
Like, damn!
And as we was riding back, it was like, yo, man, this shit, for real.
And you see, it's like you see it on...
On the movies, but you don't ever see the actual rolls of razor wire laid on the ground and on the top and these spikes that's up and big ass guns and a tower and you can see them like, damn!
And somebody escaped, they gotta go through that type of shit.
joe rogan
Imagine if you were on like the Del Rio border and you see guns, like the Mexicans had guns pointed at America.
We got guns pointed at them.
How fucking strange is that area?
North Korea and South Korea is nuts.
ali siddiq
Nuts.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
And one side is thriving, making great electronics.
Everyone's getting plastic surgery.
You've seen that, right?
They all get their eyes done?
They all have eyes like this.
ali siddiq
The problem is, it's too much plastic surgery.
It's too accepted.
joe rogan
It's everywhere.
They do their chins.
They do all kinds of shit over there.
I think it's the number one place for plastic surgery in the world.
ali siddiq
Is it good, though?
Have you ever seen a great facelift?
Have you ever seen somebody that had a facelift like, you know something?
That shit is good.
joe rogan
In person is where it's a problem, because there's so many filters on Instagram, you don't know what the fuck is going on.
You don't know.
I mean, there's Jennifer Love Hewitt, that's her name, right?
She had a video that she put up today where she was using a filter, and the filter made her lips look fat and thick, and she was just, she's like, this is crazy, like, this is not what I look like.
And she's like, In the video, she's talking.
You know what she looks like.
There's a lot of pictures of her.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then you see this video and she's saying, this is not what I look like.
But these filters are available for basically anyone to use.
So if you've seen a plastic surgeon, like, look at that.
See the filter?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Big fat lips and her face is nice and smooth.
That's what these filters do now.
It's AI. They recognize where your lips are and they thicken them up.
They change your eyes and shit.
So if you see someone who has a really good facelift and it's on Instagram, like, see the picture on the middle picture.
That's what she actually looks like.
She's a beautiful lady, but that's what she actually looks like.
If you see some plastic surgery photos online, like, you don't know.
The thing about them is when they move.
Like when people get a lot of fillers in their face, what's weird is when they start moving, when they start talking, and this shit all looks like rubber.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
I remember one time, I was in the Brea Improv green room, high as fuck, like way too high, like thinking, man, I might be too high to go on stage, like this is crazy.
I went way too far.
Because I was with Joey Diaz.
ali siddiq
It just happens.
joe rogan
It happens.
And I'm looking up, and there's a Joan Rivers TV show on.
Joan Rivers used to have a reality show.
And this was, at the time, I mean, I don't know how far she went with plastic surgery, but I think she went back and forth with fillers and a bunch of different shit.
She had so much filler in her face that it looked like she was wearing like a rubber mask and you could see when she's moving around and talking it was it was freaking me out it was just because i was like oh no like what have you done like what do you do that's not good don't do that there's a thing about when you see them their faces move In person, when you see someone who's got fillers and shit in their face, it doesn't move right.
ali siddiq
It's frozen.
It's not natural.
It's like some semen and putty shit in your face.
Okay, Lil' Kim is not the ultimate.
None of these people right now are the ultimate.
To me, Michael Jackson was the fucking problem to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's when you go too far.
ali siddiq
It was no way for me not to be insecure growing up if Michael Jackson was fucking with his face.
Like, this is who I'm, I'm like, this is Michael Jackson.
Right.
And I think Michael Jackson looked better than me at this time.
I'm like, shit, I'm a young kid, you know.
If Michael would have stayed regular Michael, then I probably would have been like, you know, all my shit is cool.
And eventually I got there, but it was after years of thinking, nah, Well, I need to be there.
My daddy, seeing my dad when he got older, my dad was like, look, this is how a man's supposed to look.
You're supposed to have character.
All these wrinkles add character to your face.
Everything's supposed to be right on your goddamn face.
And so I stopped.
It's like going to get an edge up from a barber and they constantly trying to make both the sides of your head even and they keep pushing this side back to try to make this side.
Eventually, both of your shit is too wide and you're like, What the fuck is wrong with my forehead?
Because somebody's trying to take something that's not even and try to make it even.
Like, no, just edge it like it goes.
If it slopes up and gets wider, cool!
That's how my face works.
But I can't...
You can't cut...
Like, your beard wouldn't match...
My beard wouldn't match your face.
If they took my beard and put it in your face, you'd have a huge open spot.
Like, I do.
Like, my beard is like the goddamn Fiji's.
joe rogan
You see a lot of dudes who get beard transplants now?
ali siddiq
So, I don't trust no person.
If you would paint some shit on...
Have you seen James Brown that covers the sports on...
He has...
Like, the shit is not even natural, James.
Like, it's like black paint on your goddamn skin that you edged up.
joe rogan
A lot of people are doing that now.
ali siddiq
And then that's the beard...
joe rogan
The beard thing is weird though.
Man.
Painting your face like that.
ali siddiq
No, tattooing your head.
joe rogan
That's weird too.
ali siddiq
It's weird.
Tattooing where it just looked like a hair follicle in your head.
joe rogan
That's a thing that a lot of people are doing now.
ali siddiq
But why?
It's like woman's plastic surgery.
joe rogan
I saw one where it was old.
Where he had been in the sun too long and it sort of faded and spread out.
So instead of being tiny little dots, They spread out because like look at my tattoos like they get the lines get thicker Yeah, because they get exposed to the Sun and the ink sort of spreads out That's what happens to the dots in your head So it was like his whole head was like a blur instead of like being crisp little dots Everything was like blurry Faded and it was it looked like madness.
So what have you done to your head?
ali siddiq
so He has a bad Mexican prison tattoo on his head.
Dang, yes!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Is that real?
ali siddiq
James Brown need to cut it off and that mustache.
Like, cut the shit, James.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's real?
That's crazy.
ali siddiq
Why James Brown just can't have his regular...
joe rogan
Just shave your head, bro.
Take it from a guy with a bald head.
He's got a good-shaped head.
ali siddiq
Take it from two guys.
joe rogan
Two guys with a bald head.
That's a good-shaped head.
He's got a decent head.
These guys with weird heads, like flat back, when the back of their head's flat, I feel bad for them.
That's a sad look.
unidentified
Yeah.
ali siddiq
And guys who got the pug head.
Like, you got a pug head.
joe rogan
A pug?
ali siddiq
Yeah, you know, like...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, like the wrinkly...
ali siddiq
Maybe James Brown got meat on the back of his head.
I don't know.
But the front of your head has nothing to do with the back, James.
They looking at you from the front.
Because I think Big Daddy Kane got that on the back of his head.
Or some people may have...
It's like a...
Hair follicle disease thing, like where you get these balls and it explodes in the back.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I've seen that, yeah.
ali siddiq
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, your hair follicles get infected or something.
They swell up.
ali siddiq
I think you can get that done.
I think you can get something done about that.
joe rogan
The hair transplant on the face is weird, like when dudes get a beard transplant.
I've seen a lot of that on Instagram.
It's like, come on, man.
You just got to accept your beard.
ali siddiq
It is what it is, man.
This is eight years of strong growth, like oil and everything.
You can catch me by 3 o'clock if you chose to.
Your beard is way more...
You can cut yours off and surpass me in a month.
joe rogan
This is like two days, I think.
I think this is two days.
It might be three.
What's Wednesday?
It might be three.
I think I shaved Monday morning.
ali siddiq
If I shave my beard right now and I come back next year, it'll just be getting to it.
joe rogan
Really?
Why do people care about that though?
ali siddiq
Beards a weird one like dudes who can't grow beard like dudes who have beards or can grow beards a lot of times They just shave it but dudes who can't grow beards they want a fucking beard It's like being a kid like I shaved my face very early when I was a kid like I would just put the soap on there and I'll shave off the soap and I had nothing Because my dad, thick face, beard.
My dad had the big, thick Whispers mustache.
Scotty from the Whispers.
And man, he looked so deaf in there.
When he would cut his face off and then he would have just his mustache and then he would just, ah, I'm going to do the beard.
I'm going to do the goatee.
It's like you had so much stuff he could do.
He could look different all the time.
But me, it's just one naked face look.
Then I got the Fiji Islands.
I remember this lady in the airport saying, you know how you have your beard design with a little swoop in it?
I'm like, no, that's like an open space, man.
It's like it doesn't grow.
joe rogan
That's barren land.
ali siddiq
Yeah, thank you for the compliment of my insecurities.
It's a thumbprint, man.
I can't...
And this side, it's not any better.
It just connects thinner back in my face.
joe rogan
I think Floyd Mayweather got a face transplant.
I think he got a hair transplant on his cheeks.
Yeah.
unidentified
See that?
ali siddiq
Oh, shit, Floyd.
joe rogan
Because it wasn't until he was like 40 years old that all of a sudden he had a beard.
Like he always had, you know, like a little goatee, but he never had a beard.
And now he went to Turkey, I think.
They do a lot of them for some reason.
They do a lot of them in Turkey.
ali siddiq
Because they do them for the low.
And they do a, what is it called?
Because my dude, one of my friends went over to Turkey and got his hair trimmed.
And he'd still think that shit would look good.
I'd be like...
unidentified
Why do they do it so much in Turkey?
ali siddiq
Istanbul'd and bullshitted you.
joe rogan
That's what I don't understand.
Why would it be worth going all the way the fuck over there to do it?
ali siddiq
I don't know.
joe rogan
I guess maybe you could hide while you're recovering.
ali siddiq
Yeah, maybe don't nobody know you in Turkey.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can sneak around.
ali siddiq
But, like, women who get the butt transplants or the tits and all this shit done to you, why travel to a foreign place and get it done instead?
joe rogan
Generally because it's cheaper.
ali siddiq
Like, I don't understand botched.
Like, why not just go...
joe rogan
Oh, this is why.
Average cost of beard transplant in Turkey is $1,900, which is a cheap option compared to other countries.
That's why.
Beard transplant in Turkey is very popular for people from abroad.
Because it's impossible to get the best beard transplant results at an affordable price in Turkey.
Oh, okay.
ali siddiq
Can we just do a little math?
Okay.
So we had $1,900 U.S. dollars.
joe rogan
Compared to $15,000 normally.
But that's like, what about travel?
What about all that shit?
ali siddiq
Yeah, that's why I was going to do some math.
What about travel?
How many days you have to stay?
What about lodging?
Now, this shit can sum up to about $15,000 if you've got to do all the rest of that.
joe rogan
I don't know why they do it in Turkey, though.
Are they just really good at it over there?
Is Turkey good for hair transplant?
Click on that.
ali siddiq
Maybe they're using the Turkish hair.
joe rogan
Turkey's become a top...
But they can't.
They have to use your own hair.
Your body will reject it if it's not your hair.
It's the same way with hair transplants.
It's the same as organ transplants.
If you take an organ from somebody else, you have to take...
I have a friend who had a heart transplant.
And he has to take all kinds of crazy medication to keep his body from rejecting the heart transplant.
Like, his body is very immunocompromised.
Because this stuff that he's taking actually suppresses his immune system so that his body accepts the heart transplant.
ali siddiq
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah, it's heavy duty.
It's heavy duty shit.
It's changed his personality, changed his whole life.
Do you know C.T. Fletcher?
Do you know who he is?
ali siddiq
Yes.
joe rogan
Very inspirational way of lifting.
ali siddiq
Yeah, bodybuilding.
joe rogan
That's him.
ali siddiq
C.T. Fletcher.
joe rogan
C.T. Fletcher had a woman's heart transplanted into his body.
ali siddiq
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah, so he's got a woman's heart in his body.
ali siddiq
I used to watch his bodybuilding thing because he would...
Ballbenders, I think it was called.
He had a bunch of dudes.
joe rogan
Iron addicts.
ali siddiq
Yeah, a bunch of dudes on there.
They was huge.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
No, C.T. was a gigantic man when he was younger.
ali siddiq
And I always wondered, C.T. Fletcher?
joe rogan
Look at that image, the one right next to that one.
Look at that.
The size of a man.
And he told me he only used steroids once in his career, and he said he didn't like it because it killed his dick.
Killed his hard-ons, so this is all natural.
It's all natural and hard work.
Very inspirational dude, but since having the heart transplant, he's not just inspirational, but he's really compassionate and kind, and he just has a second lease on life, and so he treats everything differently.
ali siddiq
Is he smaller?
joe rogan
He's pretty big.
ali siddiq
He's still pretty big.
joe rogan
He's fucking jack still.
But now he's on a vegan diet.
All he eats is vegan food.
He thinks that's going to help his heart situation.
But it's, you know, your body doesn't want another person's organ in there.
It's tough.
So I think that's the same thing with hair.
I think if somebody tried to donate their hair to you, I don't think your body would accept it.
ali siddiq
It's like trying to buy ladybugs to put in your garden.
joe rogan
That doesn't work?
No?
ali siddiq
If they don't like it, they leave.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ali siddiq
Yeah, you might as well just plant fennel in your garden, because they like fennel, and they'll come.
joe rogan
Are you a gardener?
ali siddiq
Yes.
joe rogan
Really?
What kind of stuff do you grow?
ali siddiq
Everything.
unidentified
Really?
ali siddiq
I've tried to grow everything.
I'm great with okra, tomatoes, me and tomatoes have it.
And it's not me and the tomatoes, it's the environment.
In Texas, in certain areas, I didn't know, once you garden, you learn more about bugs.
Because you have to.
Because bugs destroy your goddamn garden.
Like a caterpillar, what my house was.
So I'm building, I got this garden, it's like 60 feet.
Of just straight vegetables.
Onions, carrots.
Carrots are in the bucket trying to do them on the ground.
I have okra, squash, celery.
Got a lot of stuff out there.
Onions, everything.
It's a migration of these worms.
They come through and they trying to nest, turn into whatever moths or whatever they're going to turn into.
joe rogan
Chaterpillars?
ali siddiq
So they come through In like a wave.
They hanging from the houses everywhere.
And they eat your whole goddamn garden up.
They eat everything in their path besides grass.
It's insane.
So you go out there one day, you have a perfectly functioning garden, then you go out in the middle of the night and your shit is nothing.
unidentified
Really?
ali siddiq
And you're like, what the fuck just happened?
Then it's these little worms that it's a larva that this certain moth lays on the back of your leaf.
And that shit eats all your leaves up out of nowhere.
Then it's these, then it's snails.
You think snails like, but snails are up.
Snails are the worst thing to have in the garden because they're going to destroy this shit.
They eat holes through, like, you just start fucking hating insects because you're trying to grow something and you try not to use pesticides to put chemicals on your food so you have to get things.
Like ladybugs.
Ladybugs kick other insects' ass and you don't know that.
Like they gangsters.
Ladybugs are gangsters.
And you get them and it's these particular little haunted wasps that eat these worms and you want dragonflies and you want...
You want birds.
You need birds to eat mosquitoes and flies to keep from around your garden.
But then they're going to eat some of the ladybugs.
This is a whole balance of nature.
And then you've got to learn how things grow.
Corn is a freaky vegetable.
It's a freaky starch.
Corn, you have to plant it close because it likes bumping up against each other.
Okra, not so much.
You can plant okra separate because of how it grows.
Cucumbers and squash, they bud.
And then you gotta know, you can eat the flowers.
It's all type of shit with gardening, man.
joe rogan
How long have you been doing this?
ali siddiq
Probably, I don't count as a kid because that was my grandmother's garden.
So I've been gardening on my own for about, I'm gonna say about eight years.
joe rogan
So is this a trial and error?
Like you started off slow?
ali siddiq
Everything is trial and error when you got it.
Because you got to call people.
See, this is another thing about community.
If everybody in your community is growing something, you're going to talk to each other.
You're going to talk to each other about growing.
I can go to a place...
Like, if I go to a nursery, I'm going to ask somebody what they're going to do with that.
Like, what you playing with that?
Like, how you grow that?
I'm going to ask.
And they're going to say, what you got going on?
I've seen people...
Making relationships out of just trading vegetables.
Hey, you grow, you got enough room to grow sweet potatoes.
I can grow purple whole peas.
Let's switch that out.
Let's trade that.
And then we all can grow cucumbers and all these other things.
But for some reason, you're the only one having success with the sweet potatoes.
So I invest in you growing sweet potatoes.
Like I grew watermelon one year.
And I thought I was doing pretty good.
I had one good watermelon and like six bad ones because I didn't know that you had to put hay up under them once they start growing or they can rot at the bottom.
How I find that out, I call my boy Raphael.
He lives in Shreveport, Louisiana.
I call him.
I say, man, I'm having a hard time with these watermelons.
What you doing?
Talk to me.
And then we on FaceTime, and he has a grocery store in the back of his.
He's been growing for years.
So his tomatoes are huge.
He got a lot of stuff going on.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Tomatoes taste way better from a garden.
They're not even the same thing.
ali siddiq
I guarantee you, if one day you had time and say, hey, let's go to Shreveport and go to Raphael's backyard, you would just sit back there and just eat shit just out.
joe rogan
Right off the vine.
ali siddiq
Just let me wash it off.
Boom.
And I didn't even know how many types of tomatoes there were, even though I love tomatoes.
And when you grow them, how they grow.
These grow at this time.
It's insane.
But when you're growing something, you care a lot about your soil and what's in it and how it's growing.
joe rogan
Do you compost?
ali siddiq
Yes.
joe rogan
Do you?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
And you got to know that you don't want no bull manure in there.
You just want only cow manure, calf manure.
joe rogan
Really?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
Because there's no nutrients in bull shit.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, is that why it's bullshit?
ali siddiq
Yeah, it's why it's bullshit.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ali siddiq
But you knew that.
No, I didn't know that.
Cow manure.
If somebody's trying to sell you something and it has just cow manure mixed with dirt, that's good.
That's good go.
But if it got bullshit in it, Wow, that's why it's bullshit.
joe rogan
That's why bullshit is bullshit.
ali siddiq
Wow.
I've never grown a successful yard with horse manure.
joe rogan
Maybe that's like men's shit versus women's shit.
Because if a woman shits and you walk in the bathroom and it blows out the bathroom where a dude shits, like I can tell if a dude shit or a woman shit.
Pretty much.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I'm not normal, like some shits are not that bad.
Some shits are like medium, like regular, even my own.
But sometimes I take a shit and I don't realize how bad it is because I'm in there with it.
And then I'll go outside and then I have to come back in the bathroom like, what the fuck?
ali siddiq
Because I'm in here with it.
I've been nose blind.
joe rogan
That's the thing about smelling things.
You get accustomed to smells.
Your olfactory senses detect changes in smells.
That's what it's good for.
That's why people that live in areas that stink don't realize that the area stinks.
People live near a factory or something like that.
ali siddiq
They have no idea.
Do you get there?
Are y'all living around this shit?
In Amarillo, Texas, when I was in prison, They have this distinct smell.
If anybody lives in Amarillo, they know this goddamn, it's a slaughterhouse.
Oh, that's the worst.
And it's a, it just, it is the stinkiest shit in the, like, goddamn.
joe rogan
My parents used to live in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and I used to have to drive to visit them.
I'd come from New York to visit them, and I'd go through this area of Pennsylvania that's all slaughterhouses.
It's all, like, cattle, slaughterhouses, and it's just a thick smell of death.
It's like a ripe...
It's a stench.
It's the best word for it.
It's a stench of death.
It just doesn't smell good.
And these fucking poor people live there.
There's a lot of houses around this slaughterhouse.
Folks that work at the slaughterhouse, they have to live in that area.
ali siddiq
It's everywhere.
joe rogan
It's got to be in your breath.
As you're breathing it in and breathing out, you're taking in those little tiny stench molecules.
ali siddiq
Just the fact of the stitch molecule.
joe rogan
That is crazy about bullshit.
I need to know why bullshit is bullshit.
I wonder what it is.
But I think it has to do with, like I said, a man smell.
My wife's shit, I'm sure it doesn't smell good.
I'm sure it doesn't smell good.
But I've never smelled one of her shits where I confused it from mine.
ali siddiq
Damn.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
ali siddiq
I lived in a house with women growing up.
And that's why I'm so particular about the scent of a woman.
Like, I know I'm not supposed to smell you.
Like, nothing that you do, I'm not supposed to smell it.
Because I never smelled my mom, my sisters, my aunts, my cousins.
I know my boy cousins.
Like you say, I know my boy cousins around.
Them motherfuckers smell like outside and play and just, you gotta reek to you.
But the women in my family are very particular about how they operate.
So, I think I'd break up with you if I ever smelled...
You do a number two as a woman.
I think my fucking opinion about you just instantly changes.
I can see a woman, Joe, this is dead ass where I am.
I can see a woman who physically looks very, very fucking attractive.
Her shape is, she got all the shit I like.
Ass bouncing, all her shit.
If I look down and I see dirt on your heel, the heel of your foot, You automatically have a fucking yeast infection to me.
Like, automatically.
Like, if your fucking nail polish is chipped on your hands, you automatically got a fucking yeast infection.
Like, everything about you becomes disgusting because it's shit that...
I just don't deem womanly.
Like, you not supposed to have fucking dirt on your heel or your foot.
Like, what the fuck are you doing that you don't...
Like, flip-flop dust is on the heel of your fucking foot.
All your toes might as well be dirty.
You're a fucking lot lizard.
Out of nowhere, you're a fucking prostitute.
I just deem you fucking reek.
joe rogan
You ever see Dave's bit that he does about liking dirty white strippers with dirty feet?
ali siddiq
Mm-mm.
unidentified
He said he was going to open up.
joe rogan
He likes hippies.
He said he likes hippies with dirty feet.
He's just joking around, right?
It's just a joke.
It's a bit.
But he's like, if I open up a strip club, that's what it's going to be.
There's going to be a pile of dirt right next to the stage.
You've got to step in that dirt before you get up there.
unidentified
He's going to call them strippies.
ali siddiq
You know, as you grow older, or you see things, your tastes change.
Like, I've only been with black women.
So I don't have any other experiences to go on.
You know how some people are like, white women are better in relationships or Asian women.
I don't know that to be true.
I've only been with black women.
I've only been in whether a good situation or indifferent situation or a very difficult situation.
Only my kind.
so which i just i'm a human being i just love human beings period but i never looked at gothic girls before but i love them when i see them like i like i just white makeup the whole deal the black mascara tattoos and all that i don't know why But I am fucking intrigued.
If I see a gothic girl, I'm like, I be fucking...
If you got an exposed tattoo and you fucking look gothic, my eyebrow goes up.
And I know I done got bad, bad with this shit now.
Because I was in...
And these girls probably never even know that this happened.
They probably never even told their friends.
So I'm doing a stress factory in...
joe rogan
New Jersey?
ali siddiq
In New Jersey.
joe rogan
New Brunswick?
ali siddiq
New Brunswick.
It's a little restaurant, a little Hispanic restaurant, Latino restaurant right on that street, a cantina.
They got pretty good margaritas and they got good shrimp tacos.
So I go in there, I'm sitting at the bar by myself getting ready to go to my hotel.
And, you know, somebody do some birthday shots.
I turn around, and it's like six white girls at a table.
It's somebody's birthday.
And I just glanced.
I'm like, oh, they're having a birthday.
And then I glanced back.
It's six gothic white girls.
unidentified
Oh, my God!
ali siddiq
I was like...
Okay, let me compose myself.
And I just kept looking.
Just kept looking.
I'm like...
And I was looking at the different levels of the gothicness to them.
I was like, damn.
And then this one blonde one got up to go to the restroom and she was so gothic.
The big shoes and shit and everything.
And I said to myself...
I could send a round of drinks to them.
Because that's what a man would do.
It was a bunch of gorgeous chicks.
Oh, let me send them around just to be impressive.
That's not what I did.
I got ready to go.
I ate my food.
Contained myself.
I ate my food.
Because all these goth girls.
Because they goth.
I was just thinking they were the best.
And I just walked over.
I don't know what their bill was.
And I just put some money down.
And said, happy birthday.
And walked out.
And I walked to my room.
And they were very appreciative of all at the same time.
They said, oh, thank you.
Because, you know, once all the money, it was enough to pay for what they had.
But I know that I'm shifting towards gothic girls.
joe rogan
You're shifting?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
What started this?
ali siddiq
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Out of nowhere?
ali siddiq
It probably started with the chubby, not overweight, but the chubby White cheerleader, like the third, like when you watch softball, when you watch softball, it's the third baseman.
Like whatever she, third baseman always kind of stout, little heavy, heavy one.
unidentified
Yeah.
ali siddiq
I think it started with that.
And they're like, hmm.
Interesting.
You know, so.
joe rogan
And you just developed a taste?
ali siddiq
Yeah, never been with it.
joe rogan
Right, but.
But you're interested.
unidentified
I'm very, Intriguing.
ali siddiq
Charitable to people.
Like, I'm the person that if you behind me and you buying something, I'd be in that mood.
I'm like, yo, whatever they getting, I got.
Because, you know, I used to be trying to pay back the universe.
But then I used to be very particular about who I used to do that with.
Now it's opened up to gothic girls.
It used to be old people, children, very, very attractive black women.
And now it's opened up to gothic girls.
That's how I know.
If you gothic and you standing behind me in line, you're going to get something paid for.
joe rogan
So is it just a mystery to you?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is it just intriguing?
ali siddiq
It's like old white women with a certain haircut.
Their ass has dropped like it's finally...
They old.
They like maybe 60. And that's who women need to be careful of.
Old, white, well-to-do women...
You think that young women want to steal your man.
Yes, they want to take your man and have a life with him.
The danger in old women, they don't even want your man.
They want to use him as a toy for a couple of hours and toss him back to you.
They don't even want him.
So you got to be scheduled.
This old white lady told me that, hey, what would it cost for your time?
I was like, man.
joe rogan
Cost for your time?
Really?
ali siddiq
And she wasn't even talking about paying me.
He was like, you know.
What's the price of your time?
What do you need to do?
Like, you need to go somewhere.
joe rogan
She want to take you somewhere?
ali siddiq
Man, I'm like, I'm not available to be out.
unidentified
And then she came around.
ali siddiq
They pulled her car around and she was like in a Maserati truck.
I'm like, I'm going to come back to your show tomorrow.
Zoomed out.
I'm like, damn!
I could be some old white lady's pool boy that gets left in the wheel.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder how many of those are there.
Because you know there's a lot of sugar daddies and girls who get paid.
There's a lot of that.
There's a lot of rich guys, have girls, they pay for their apartment, buy them a car.
Remember that dude?
Who was the dude, the fuck is his name, that owned the Clippers?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had a deal, right?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes, that guy.
He had that girl.
All the shit went down with him.
He had a deal with her.
He bought her a Ferrari, got her a Bentley, bought her a condo.
ali siddiq
It's a lot of women got that deal.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of women got that deal, but not a lot of dudes got that deal.
ali siddiq
Nah, shit.
joe rogan
A lot of dudes do not get their shit paid for by some rich lady that they fuck.
That's rare.
ali siddiq
I just want some old white lady to come give me a Rolex and say, this is for your time.
unidentified
Yeah.
ali siddiq
I don't know.
I don't think I could be a gigolo.
You gotta touch everybody.
I had a lady who did porno and she told me that.
She said, porno is not all people think it is.
That shit is...
Like, you gotta do things.
And sometimes these girls' body don't be fucking right.
Like, they be having odors and shit.
It's like me being in the strip club.
I'm the person that's going to...
I go to a strip club in Houston only, really, to pay homage to the streets.
You know, just to, you know, do something for the streets.
But...
I don't want you dancing on me.
Like, you can dance while I can see you, but I don't want you actually on me.
Like, don't be on me.
Yeah, like, don't sit on me.
Like, don't...
This dance right there...
You're gonna get the same money.
I'm gonna throw as much money I'm gonna throw, but I don't want you on me.
And people are like, why?
Until I go to a strip club where there's a full shower area, like the Lakers locker room.
Because that's what I would have.
If I open up a strip club, you can best believe you're going to be like the fucking Lakers.
Because you're in showtime.
The people coming to see you, cool.
Yo, man, she has a place.
She don't have a long ass table with everybody.
She has a booth.
You have the makeup lady.
You have the nutritionist back there.
You have the mom that takes care, that cleans everybody's shit.
And you have a shower area.
You have a full ass shower where you can go get your musty ass in that shower and then come back out and dance on people fresh.
I don't want you dancing on me.
You done been in this shit baby wiping yourself.
Get your ass off me.
unidentified
Like, No, get the fuck out of here.
ali siddiq
I don't want you on me.
I just don't.
joe rogan
That's understandable.
ali siddiq
Why would I let you...
You done been spraying this shit on your body that you ain't bathed off and you put that shit on my clothes and I was feeling like some fucking brown...
Whatever that shit is, they body spray.
I hate that shit.
Like, don't...
I hate it.
Like, it just made me so mad just to even think of a stripper dancing on me and you haven't taken a fucking shower and you've been in this strip club for hours dancing on various people Oh, hell no.
Just to disgust it alone.
But I would have to have a shower for my strippers, for my dancers, for the league.
I would call them the league.
joe rogan
The league?
ali siddiq
If you're dancing at my club, you can definitely hold yourself over other strippers.
Like, oh, you're dancing at that club?
Oh, I'm ashamed of you.
Like, you can actually look down on other strippers.
Like, no, where you dance at?
The league.
Like, I'm with the league.
Like, I would treat you so good.
joe rogan
Are you gonna open up a strip club, Ali?
unidentified
No, I'm not!
joe rogan
I feel like you have plans.
ali siddiq
I'm not, but I'm just saying.
joe rogan
All gothic girls.
ali siddiq
Oh, my God.
You know, my uncle told me this.
My uncle told me this.
He's a fucking nut.
My uncle Mac.
My uncle Mac told me, you don't want to make no goddamn money.
If you want to make some money, let me tell you what you do.
You get your house.
Six bedroom.
Put you five chubby white girls in that motherfucker.
Gold, baby.
Million dollars in a year.
I said, what?
He said, man, do you understand?
Everybody like a fat white girl.
unidentified
I said, Okay.
ali siddiq
And then if you go through, like, I watched The Best Little Whole House in Texas before I've seen that.
I can see it.
I can see it.
That's the thing, too.
That's why these people get these ass injections.
A big ass on anything.
I know this.
A bent over ass.
Nobody can pass over.
I don't give a damn how wide it is.
If it's bent over, you're like, I don't know who it belongs to, but it's decent.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that that's just a genetic thing?
Your body wants someone who has an appropriate amount of fat so they can take care of your children.
That's the hip to waist ratio thing.
That's why guys like big tits.
Because it's going to be able to supply the milk for your baby.
And then a big ass is going to be like, she's got enough fat supply on her body to survive the birthing process.
ali siddiq
I don't see the...
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
ali siddiq
It's a thing.
joe rogan
But it's weird that that's our urges.
Our urges come from that.
They're so easy to trick that we know it's like fake tits.
We know it's a trick.
It's not confusing, but you like them.
Like big old fake tits.
ali siddiq
I think this is the thing with me.
I have a friend named Marcus D. Wilder.
He's another comedian.
He always say that I am the one thing man.
Like, it takes one thing for me to erase all of your shit.
Like, you could be an attractive woman and, hey, I know your tits is fake.
And it looks appealing.
And then in my mind, I know there's a scar somewhere.
unidentified
What?
ali siddiq
That bothers you?
It's a fucking butcher knife, scar down the side, or you got it cut on up under.
But then if they stuff that shit in your nipple, I'm not going to be able to do it.
I can see that bothers me.
joe rogan
The nipple one bothers you.
ali siddiq
Then the feel of them.
I felt some that were the real thing, but then the scars there.
And then I felt something that was like, do you know that you have cement in your chest?
This is gravel.
It has to be gravel.
joe rogan
Yeah, some of them are rock hard.
That's weird.
ali siddiq
I don't like the fake asses at all.
I just can't get into the fake ass at all.
It don't come off your thigh right.
Exactly.
joe rogan
It doesn't match your thighs.
ali siddiq
It don't match nothing.
That shit is retarded.
joe rogan
It's not good.
That's why it's so weird.
It doesn't match the legs.
It looks like you're wearing a diaper.
ali siddiq
It's just weird, man.
joe rogan
Well, it's weird that it became a trend.
ali siddiq
What was weird was women who already had ass started doing it as well.
And then younger people started doing it.
Your body has not developed all the way out yet.
And you're injecting something into it?
joe rogan
What are they doing?
Because I know some of them are taking fat and they repurpose the fat.
So they're sucking fat out of some part of their body and then they're filling their ass with that fat.
But other ones are using an implant.
ali siddiq
But fat burns.
So they can't work out with the shit.
joe rogan
Right.
ali siddiq
Like, I don't know.
joe rogan
Maybe it doesn't last.
How does it work?
ali siddiq
I have no idea.
Like, why?
You got fat in your face.
You want your lips big.
Like, I don't know.
Like, I'm confused by any male...
Probably men don't do it a lot, but men, it's mostly males with confidence, insecurities.
Why would you do that?
joe rogan
How many men have a lip injection?
ali siddiq
Yes.
joe rogan
Is that real?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
Gay men mostly, right?
ali siddiq
Probably.
joe rogan
Probably.
What's going on, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I saw a video recently of these three guys that had...
ali siddiq
They were together?
jamie vernon
Collectively.
They're called like the Three Kens or something like that.
unidentified
They all spent a fuckload of money on all sorts.
jamie vernon
Like $60,000 shoulder implants, one of the guys said.
ali siddiq
Shoulder implants?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to find a picture.
joe rogan
Are they getting her straight?
jamie vernon
I'm not going to make that judgment show.
joe rogan
Well, let me hear them talk.
ali siddiq
That'll solve it!
joe rogan
You can't tell if they're gay if you hear them talk, but you can tell if they're not straight.
Because if you hear a guy talk, he could talk like me, but he could be gay.
But if you hear a guy talk...
ali siddiq
Yes, we already know what this is.
Like, I don't even have to...
joe rogan
Those guys are gay as fuck.
100%.
Look how he's holding one.
jamie vernon
The one in the middle had the most.
He's had over a quarter million dollars, he said.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ali siddiq
Like, from where?
Like, what does he do?
joe rogan
Right, where's he getting that money?
jamie vernon
They don't say that.
joe rogan
God, look at his face.
That's crazy.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this guy's like 40s, I think.
The one on the right, he's probably in his 30s, and the young one is on the left.
He's just getting started.
joe rogan
With the surgery?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, what are they doing to his head?
Oh, hair transplant.
jamie vernon
Yeah, hair transplants.
joe rogan
But what they're doing to his face is weird.
Look, his cheeks are poked out.
Like, his cheeks look fake.
The thing is, like, there's a geometry to your face, like a natural geometry.
Like, if you have a long face and a big nose, and then you get a nose job, and you get this long face and a tiny nose, everybody's like, what?
Something looks wrong.
ali siddiq
Aesthetically, you just don't, like...
joe rogan
Doesn't line up right.
When they start putting shit in their cheeks...
jamie vernon
You got the first leg implants, it says.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Multiple leg implants.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Oh, he's insane.
ali siddiq
He's definitely insane.
This is an insane person.
joe rogan
Oh God, look at his shoulders.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
$950,000 in...
Where's he getting the money, man?
ali siddiq
On something that you could have just worked and got.
joe rogan
I think he has bicep implants too, it looks like.
Does he?
Oh my God, look at this doctor convincing him.
You look great, Marvin.
Marvin, I love this new face.
23 implants in total.
That guy probably aches like fuck when it rains out.
Everything hurts.
His shoulders, his biceps, his cheeks.
jamie vernon
They're stuffing him in there.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
ali siddiq
He's like a plastic man.
joe rogan
That's the boyfriend?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, so they're cutting.
So he's probably scarred up everywhere.
Oh, geez, look how they're stuffing those things in the legs.
jamie vernon
And obviously this is getting them more attention, so they're like addicted to that probably.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure, that's part of it.
Look at this doc who looks crazy.
Imagine that goofy looking fuck is the guy who's telling you...
ali siddiq
He looks like goddamn the doc from Back to the Future.
joe rogan
God, that's insane.
Thigh implants are insane.
ali siddiq
And look at that, crowbarring it in!
joe rogan
Oh, God, that's so fucking sick.
Oh, look, he's got to trim it.
Oh, boy.
Six hours later, wake up, honey, you look great, you lumpy legs.
ali siddiq
And your mom.
joe rogan
And his mom's got giant fake tits.
ali siddiq
And look at...
jamie vernon
Here's the reveal.
joe rogan
Oh, this is a reveal?
He's gonna show the legs?
Ta-da!
Let's see the legs.
Oh, they look weird.
Before?
After?
Wow.
jamie vernon
In the picture it looks like he's got muscle, but not when it moves.
joe rogan
Just do some squats, you lazy bitch.
Leg muscles are not that hard to build.
ali siddiq
That was fucking hard to watch.
joe rogan
I just don't understand.
It's an addiction.
That's like body dysmorphia, like anorexics.
They don't know what they look like.
They think they look good.
They need to be thinner.
They don't think they look like a skeleton.
ali siddiq
I watch Botched.
I watch Botched.
And this guy, she's trying to look like a sex doll.
She's trying to look like a human sex doll.
And the man keeps telling her, like, your body can't take any, your tits cannot be bigger.
Like, we can't give you anything else.
She's like, I want it.
And if you don't do it, I'm going to go somewhere else dangerous and do it.
And her dude is like, yo, I don't want her to do this.
He's like a Finland dude from Finland.
I went to her to do this.
But it was just disgusting.
It was more sad than anything.
Why?
Ma'am, you don't know what you look like right now.
You have no idea what your natural...
It's like Lil' Kim to me.
Lil' Kim...
She was fucking perfect.
Then she just fucked it up.
Like, she just decided, yo, I'm gonna fuck my shit up with this...
And I guess it's some...
Man, I just don't understand that shit.
joe rogan
I don't know what she looks like now.
I haven't seen Lil' Kim in a long time.
ali siddiq
Man, Lil' Kim.
joe rogan
What does she look like now?
ali siddiq
Shit.
Tell him to put it up.
Go to the tail of the tape.
unidentified
Shit!
joe rogan
These make me sad because I can see how people could go insane like that.
They go insane like girls who think their tits aren't big enough.
They want to keep going and going and going.
It's a mental illness.
ali siddiq
Is it not enough people...
Telling you, Lil' Kim was fucking beautiful!
joe rogan
Well, maybe it's an age thing, right?
They get older, they just want something.
ali siddiq
Like, but...
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They lose their youthful appearance and they want fillers and shit to fill their face up.
That's what a lot of it is with women.
It starts with the cheeks.
They start doing their cheeks and their cheeks get puffed out because that stretches your skin out and that reduces some wrinkles.
Because they don't have to see the wrinkles anymore, they think it's good.
ali siddiq
I think it starts with makeup.
I think it starts with you hiding Who you are from the beginning.
joe rogan
And most people do it.
Most women wear makeup.
Most.
Right?
Do you want me to say?
ali siddiq
Hopefully not.
joe rogan
But if you had a guess.
ali siddiq
In America.
I average.
I put everything to America.
Because I think everybody else.
I was in Korea and never seen a nail shop.
Really?
joe rogan
They don't do their nails over there?
ali siddiq
They don't go to the shop and do them.
I grew up.
But I understand that because I grew up.
My mother never went to the nail shop when I was growing up.
She always did her own nails.
That was something that women, that was a woman taking time to pamper themselves.
This was the thing that we heard growing up.
And I still want to hear it.
And I've never heard this shit in my life outside of my mother saying it, my aunt saying it, and saying this shit on the sitcom.
I cannot go out tonight because I'm washing my hair.
Washing my hair.
I'm washing my hair.
I'm getting ready to do it myself.
Women don't do that shit no more.
joe rogan
They don't?
They'll go somewhere.
ali siddiq
They'll go somewhere.
joe rogan
Imagine if women could no longer wear makeup.
No women.
ali siddiq
Oh my goodness.
I would have.
It would be the best for me.
joe rogan
You like that?
ali siddiq
Because now it takes away the tricks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No more trickery.
ali siddiq
No more.
Because men can't do it.
joe rogan
We don't have shit.
ali siddiq
We don't have shit.
You got to get a woman off what the fuck you look like.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ali siddiq
Look like I can provide, I can protect, and this is what the fuck I look like.
I'm Biggie Smalls.
I'm goddamn KC. This is what I look like.
My head is warped.
My beard don't connect.
I'm fucking crazy.
Look, do you like me?
joe rogan
I wonder how it started that women started, because you know way back in the Cleopatra days, like Cleopatra was known for wearing lipstick and makeup, so we know they wore it.
Like in the hieroglyphics, you could see the women had makeup on.
So I wonder when they started that shit.
ali siddiq
It was clay.
It was like clay.
She had a clay rouge on her back.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was probably terrible makeup back then.
ali siddiq
There's a dark dick, but Claire Rapp, she looked good regular.
They're like, oh, Claire Rapp's bad motherfucking regular.
But how much makeup could they actually have?
What was it made out of?
It was like a dirt mist egg.
Roundup herbs.
Hey, I need you to bring the maiden in.
I need a clay dust mask over my face.
Not too much!
joe rogan
Let's try to guess.
When do you think the invention of makeup took place?
What year?
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
I know in Sumer there's images of earrings.
So I know they had hoop earrings way back in ancient Sumer.
ali siddiq
Okay.
So I think...
We're going to take off henna.
We're going to take henna out of being a sort of type of makeup.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's more of a tattoo.
ali siddiq
But it was a thing that they used to do to design their face and then they would take it off and that's why they would look the same all the time.
So henna, we'll take that out.
joe rogan
It's kind of a kind of makeup though, isn't it?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
That would be what Cleopatra would use.
joe rogan
I want to say it's 5,000 years old.
That's what I want to say.
I want to say makeup is 5,000 years old.
ali siddiq
Shit.
I'm going to say as in today's time, I'm going to give it Is Shakespeare 5,000 years old?
joe rogan
No.
Shakespeare was like, what, 1400s?
ali siddiq
1400s.
joe rogan
Is that right?
ali siddiq
Shakespearean times.
joe rogan
I'm just guessing.
jamie vernon
Sounds like 15, 14?
ali siddiq
14, 15, something like that.
jamie vernon
Sounds right.
ali siddiq
I'm going to give it the 1500s.
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet it.
Oh, that's what you think?
Makeup?
1500s?
Wow.
ali siddiq
Oh, Roman times.
jamie vernon
Google says the first dynasty of Egypt, which is about 5,000.
It says 5,000 to 6,000 years ago.
unidentified
3,100, 2,900 BC. Okay.
ali siddiq
But that's...
jamie vernon
Something called Unjuant.
ali siddiq
What was it called?
joe rogan
Unjuant?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Huh.
Unjuant was a substance extensively used by men and women to keep their skin hydrated and supple and to avoid wrinkles from the dry heat.
The earliest historical record of makeup.
ali siddiq
So it's this thing that Muslim men use up under our eyes.
It's almost like a mascara.
But it was used during the times when they were riding to glare out sun.
But me and Ed would be using it up under their eyes.
joe rogan
Like how football players put it on their cheeks.
ali siddiq
Yes, but it was right up under their eyes.
joe rogan
5,000 years ago.
jamie vernon
The Smithsonian's paint cosmetics shortly after the American Revolution, which is a big difference in time.
joe rogan
I was reading something where they were talking about men wearing makeup.
Like, men are gonna start wearing makeup and bass and stuff on a regular basis.
ali siddiq
I'm like, no.
joe rogan
Try pushing that.
jamie vernon
There's a lot of guys that do, though.
I shouldn't say a lot, but that's been a thing since I was in a band.
Like, guys wearing different men, fingernail paint, eye mascara, and touch up shit for pimples.
joe rogan
The band thing is a different thing.
Like guys who wear makeup in a band.
ali siddiq
But we talking about the guy at Target.
Face full of bass.
joe rogan
How did that shit happen with bands?
When bands like Poison, they started wearing like mascara and eyeliner and full makeup on.
ali siddiq
Maybe with Kiss.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Kiss was like costume makeup.
They had stars over their eyes.
ali siddiq
I love Kiss, though.
Jewish guys.
Maybe Ozzy Osbourne, though.
jamie vernon
It wasn't a big difference, though, with just colors instead of just black and white.
They went blue and pink and glitter.
joe rogan
I guess.
But Kiss, what they did is it was a genius move.
What Kiss did is they made it so that they were famous, but they were also anonymous.
Nobody knew what they looked like underneath that design.
So they would go...
I met Ace Frehley from Kiss when I was really young.
I was like 8 years old, 9 years old, something like that.
I was...
I saw him with no makeup on.
My uncle was an...
He was an artist.
What was that?
jamie vernon
Snyder.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, Twisted Sister.
jamie vernon
But not a lot of people were doing that.
I mean, it looks like a clown kind of.
joe rogan
But that was kind of, you know, theatrical.
So my uncle worked for Howard Marks Advertising, which was like a company that did the album covers for KISS. So my uncle was an artist.
And so he took me to work with him one day, and Ace Frehley from KISS came into the office with no makeup on.
I was like, oh!
Like, for a little kid, it's like seeing Santa Claus.
Like, what?
This is what you really look like?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was kind of crazy.
ali siddiq
It's like...
This is not that.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that.
Look at Poison.
That's so crazy.
ali siddiq
I think all of them was trying to recreate that Parliament era.
Parliament was before that.
joe rogan
Yeah, right.
That's true.
ali siddiq
Yeah, we're kissing them.
It was like, if you look up, if you look Parliament.
joe rogan
Little Richard.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
Little Richard was earlier.
George Clinton.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
And Little Richard was before George Clinton.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Little Richard was wearing makeup before anybody.
And he was like the most famous guy who was androgynous before anybody.
You know, go to like some old Little Richard shit.
And a lot of people forgot, like, Rick James had a lot of androgynous to him.
He had those crazy high boots and...
ali siddiq
Yeah.
Rick James did.
That was one of the...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at that.
I mean, come on.
This is Little Richard in, like, the 50s, man.
Yeah.
I mean, come on.
Look at that hair.
That's wild.
You know that song, Tootie Fruity O'Rudy?
It used to be Tootie Fruity Good Booty?
Well, they said that's too risque.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta change those lyrics.
ali siddiq
It's a damn show.
joe rogan
That's what it was.
It was originally Tootie Fruity Good Booty.
See if you can find the original lyrics for Tootie Fruity.
Because they were like, no, no.
Little Richard was a bad motherfucker.
If you think about the kind of suppression that that guy must have faced trying to become famous with that act in America during that time, and he was so talented that they just had to let him go.
They just had to let him go.
jamie vernon
Tootie Fruity Good Booty, if it don't fit, don't force it.
You can grease it, make it easy.
unidentified
What the fuck is wrong?
joe rogan
He's talking about butt-fucking.
ali siddiq
Why did he think that was going on the radio?
Like, what the fuck was Little Richard thinking about?
joe rogan
Because he was so wild.
He was getting away with so much.
ali siddiq
You know, it's in the band.
It's like, you know, it's that new thing out there.
Trying to join the band.
This is me trying to...
unidentified
It was the 4th of November.
ali siddiq
Oh, good.
Bringing the horns.
And everybody stopped.
Just think about...
The people that's playing with Lil' Richard on this fucking song.
unidentified
Tootie Fruity, good booty.
ali siddiq
What's the lyrics?
joe rogan
If it don't fit, don't force it.
unidentified
If it don't fit, don't force it.
joe rogan
You can grease it, make it easy.
Those were replaced with Tootie Fruity All Rudy, Tootie Fruity All Rudy.
All Rudy was a slang expression meaning all right.
According to Charles Conner, Little Rich's drummer, the original lyrics were, Tutti Frutti, good booty, if it's tight, it's alright, and if it's greasy, it makes it easy.
Oh my god.
ali siddiq
Why I can't say that?
joe rogan
He's talking about butt-fucking in a song he's trying to sell to the radio.
ali siddiq
Fuck all that!
I ain't chasing shit!
joe rogan
He was so interesting.
ali siddiq
Tootie Fruity.
Good booty.
Grease it.
Makes it easy.
joe rogan
Don't fit, don't force it.
unidentified
God damn, Richard!
ali siddiq
Yeah, Richard was crazy as shit.
I don't know what made him think that was going on the radio.
Can you imagine?
We just trying to get it on the radio.
unidentified
Fuck the radio.
joe rogan
I need to express myself.
Do you think that there's a recording?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
I'm looking at this.
The story it says, which might not be accurate, but it says on here that he was having the first recording session.
The session wore on.
He became frustrated that his Anarchic performance style is not being fully captured on tape.
During a lunch break, he started pounding on the piano and singing a ribald song that he wrote and composed and had been performing live for a few years.
And that's what this was.
But that's a Wikipedia quick explanation of a story.
Who knows if it actually happened that way.
You'd have to talk to him.
joe rogan
Is he still alive?
jamie vernon
I think.
unidentified
Wait.
joe rogan
Is he up there?
jamie vernon
No, but I feel like...
We looked, and he died during the pandemic, yeah.
joe rogan
That's right.
That's right.
ali siddiq
Oh, he died.
Little Richard died a lot.
Yeah, he died in 2020. Y'all knew he had parents.
joe rogan
Oh, he died real recently, in May of 2020. Yeah, Little Richard died.
There's some dudes that just, like, they break through in such a way, they're so different than anybody else, that it kind of changes the genre.
It kind of changes the art for them.
ali siddiq
You!
Shit!
unidentified
Me?
ali siddiq
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
What did I do?
ali siddiq
Yo!
Yo, I'm not going to talk to you about it later, but it was a couple things.
So, I'm doing a podcast, Godfrey's podcast, and you come up.
And my take on things is always a little different.
So they're like, Joe Rogan, what you think about Joe Rogan, N-word, and this and that.
Okay, let's talk about it.
You know Joe Rogan.
Same thing that happened with Ari.
I'm the closest person that they know to talk to.
It seems like I'm the only black person that knows Joey Diaz that somebody else would know.
So I'm adjacent to Ari.
Then when you came up with this, I said, well, let's look at it.
Y'all know me.
Do I think Joe Rogan is racist?
No.
Did he talk about it?
I say racist people run from shit and try to...
I'm doing this.
Talked about it.
Well, you going on this show?
unidentified
You been on this show?
ali siddiq
I said, well, let me tell you this.
Do you think it's about that?
Or do you think it's about Joe Rogan is running a fucking muck on media?
Like, if y'all know how fucking leaps and bounds he is passing.
Like, they say Johnny Carson level, like, you going on the news, Johnny Carson.
No, when you look at the numbers of who people pay attention to, listening time.
It's like if we was racing and the race started in Texas, everybody else, Netflix, news stations, all the rest of it, whatever fucking talk show you can come up with.
Everybody's in Austin.
They start running in Houston.
They're in Austin.
Joe is in fucking Oklahoma already.
And y'all still trying to catch him.
Like he's running a different race.
People listen to him for a long time.
Just the amount of time.
So you change the game.
In a way that I feel like media attacked you all at one time trying to diminish something.
Like, just throw everything at him at one time.
joe rogan
Well, there's definitely that, too.
ali siddiq
Like, I saw it, and it was like, nobody else would see that point.
They just, they just like, oh, Joe, they're doing this, they're doing that.
But why?
Like, and then I compared it to Fat Joe.
I was like, I could see from every angle.
Even with young white kids, when they go to a rap concert, they don't fucking edit the words.
joe rogan
What's the Fat Joe comparison?
ali siddiq
I'm finna get to it.
Like, Fat Joe has said the N-word to people in the vicinity of people, whatever.
I say, y'all don't ever get mad at Fat Joe.
Because he's Dominican.
I say, but just think.
You can't explain that shit to my uncle.
Or my grandmother.
Or my Aunt Willa.
My Aunt Willa don't give a fuck about what you think you adjacent to.
She 106. She don't give a fuck what you talking about.
None of that registers to her that gives you a pass about you being Dominican or you being Cuban or you using a jet.
None of that shit registers to her.
So it's about who gets mad at what time.
You're not finna fucking...
Take my feelings on something and try to make something a trigger.
Do I look at Joe as Louis C.K. of Ricky Jarvis?
No.
Because if I ever ran into them, I'd snap the shit out of Ricky Jarvis and fucking Louis C.K. And I got a problem with Chris.
Because I said all this shit on Joe.
I got a problem with Chris sitting there as his fucking jovial because Seinfeld wasn't.
Seinfeld was looking in the camera like, are y'all fucking losing y'all mind?
Because his best friend is George Wallace.
So you're using it in a space and you're fucking with people that it's not...
I say, now we get to the gist of it.
You got to understand how to explain shit.
That's just how people do.
I wouldn't have sat there with Chris and listened to him, listened to fucking Louis C.K. and Ricky Gervais in Word It Up.
I wouldn't have fucking did that.
With people, they try to turn whatever they want to turn.
You can't fucking use me to get your agenda across.
That's what you can't do with me.
I'm going to ask the person, square up what it is, and me and the person, and then either I deny or defend that person.
But Y'all try to pick and choose shit that you can't explain to across the board the shit.
You can't explain across the board.
You got to go to that person that I understand how things happen across the board.
joe rogan
You mean individually?
Individually.
In context.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
You can't defend somebody without talking to them where they are based upon what somebody else said.
Like I listened to a show the other day, which fucking confused me because I understand words.
If the mayor of New York said he doesn't want citizens filming on top of the art of top of the cops while they trying to do their business, they just attacked the whole thing.
He never said that you couldn't film.
He said he doesn't want you on top of the officers filming.
Oh, what does on top mean?
Who the fuck don't know what on top mean?
But you're a journalist, so you're trying to create this atmosphere of bullshit that you don't know what on top is.
On top, and then they went to the Rights Act afterwards, the film Rights Act in New York.
It said a safe distance.
Filming with your camera, doing a police thing, you have to do it at a safe distance.
On top of somebody, it's not a safe distance.
And then you're not even considering the other side.
You're just riling people up about, he's trying to stop filming.
No, he's not trying to stop filming.
But what if you filming, and of course, the altercation turns towards you, and now you involved in the shit, and you get shot.
Or I'm a cop, I end up shooting you, or the person in the shit, or stab.
If you on top of me while I'm trying to do my...
It's like being...
You've been a referee before.
unidentified
No, I haven't.
ali siddiq
No, you've been in the ring with the people who ref.
Yes.
Is he on top of the action or he knows the balance of how to move out the way?
It's like a football referee.
When they play football, they know how to get out the way.
Does a normal citizen know how to do that?
joe rogan
No.
ali siddiq
So it makes sense for the man to say, I don't want you filming on top of the officers while they're trying to do their thing.
You can stand back and do it.
But when it's spent on media, it says that he's trying to don't film.
He's trying to get rid of filming.
He's trying to all this shit is about filming.
joe rogan
You know this don't say gay shit in Florida?
Do you hear about this?
ali siddiq
No.
joe rogan
You don't hear about this?
They're calling this a don't say gay law in Florida with kids.
They're pretending that they're saying don't say gay.
So everybody's saying gay, gay, gay.
I'm going to say gay because I support gay people and gay rights and gay this and gay that.
But that's not what the law is.
What the law does say is that from first grade to third grade, you can't bring up gender transition, sexual orientation, whether people are gay or straight.
They say, don't teach that in class.
That's it.
That's the law, which seems reasonable.
You don't want an unknown person who's a teacher, a stranger, talking to your child who's six About sexual transitioning and gender transitioning and sexual orientation and gay people and bisexual people and non-binary people.
Like, hey, hey, hey, that fucking kid needs to learn how to read and write and Count and no history and normal shit.
They don't need to know about trans kids and that's not for you to teach.
That's not your job.
That's a delicate issue to be handled by parents and loved ones.
And so people are freaking out and they're calling it the don't say gay bill.
But that's not what the bill is.
But if you say don't say gay, people freak out.
Oh, Florida is just so homophobic and they're so backwards.
Like, that's not what it says.
It's not what it says.
ali siddiq
So this is what people want to happen.
Let's not use the word normal.
I'm going to use the word in a natural reproductive society.
You want my son to come to school and not want to understand.
I drew a picture of my family and it had my mom and My dad, my sister's dog, and myself.
So I understand how I got here.
These two people, her stomach was big, then I fucking came out.
Your picture, Rick, is two goddamn men or two women And you, yourself and some other children that don't look like you either.
And you don't want my, you don't, you want me, you want, you want to, you want to send my son home to me and you want me to fucking lie to him about what, what, cause my son don't understand if I, we have two dogs outside as both boy dogs.
There's no puppy out there that came out.
There's no fucking other dog out there that came from them, too.
But over here, there's a female cane, Corso, and this male cane, Corso.
They have puppies.
What do you want me to say to my son?
What do you want me to say to my son?
Do you want me to...
Make sense of your shit or you want me to tell him the truth?
Because he's going to get the truth, but you don't want me to tell him.
You want me to send my son to school, just like my son.
I had to take my son out of school because my son does not tolerate the bullshit.
Yo, he's in there in class like, yo, there's no Santa Claus.
I'm not drawing none of this shit.
Yo!
Ain't nobody coming down your fucking chimney!
Your son, the rest of the kids...
unidentified
How old was he?
ali siddiq
My son was like eight.
joe rogan
Well, how old are they supposed to be when you tell them?
ali siddiq
My son is like, yo man, I don't...
Hey, just want to let the class know Christmas is not real.
Got it straight from my dad.
Just got it straight from my dad.
Showed me a history, all the rest of it, and ran it down.
Yo, Santa Claus is not real, little girl.
I had to get him.
I had to get him out of school.
It was done.
joe rogan
But if you have two guys and they have a kid, you could say they adopted the kid.
They're married and they adopted a kid.
You could say they hired a lady to have their kid.
I have a gay neighbor that lives next to me.
ali siddiq
My son wants to know why in the fuck does two men live in a house together with a kid and they not his uncles?
He not understanding that shit.
It's no...
You cannot explain this to this boy.
joe rogan
You can't explain gay people to him?
ali siddiq
Now I gotta explain that this is not the way this shit goes.
That's what I'm trying to explain.
I had to take him out of school because my son is going back to school with, yo, your family fucked up.
I just want you to know.
Your family's on some bullshit.
Your dad is a butt plug for the other one.
Like, yo, fuck you.
What you talking about, man?
Now you gotta take him out of school because of this?
You gotta fuck nature up for him.
Because this is fucking up the course of life.
He does not understand why you would have two moms or why you would have two dads.
Like, that shit...
How you got here?
Fuck all the rest of that.
How did your ass get here?
Like, I know people who adopted.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
Because he knows someone that's adopted.
They have a mother and they have a father.
They have a brother.
joe rogan
So he can't square off two guys living together.
ali siddiq
Two guys and two girls.
That shit doesn't match to him.
How...
It's like, but also with gardening.
You got to think of this as a person who gardens.
Two, I planted a seed in a place where it can grow.
where did you grow?
unidentified
That's what he was.
ali siddiq
Where did you grow?
joe rogan
Well, that's complicated.
We had a surrogate, and that surrogate gave birth to our child.
ali siddiq
Why don't you have a woman to plant your seed in?
joe rogan
Well, I don't like women, but I do want to have children.
ali siddiq
That don't make sense to me.
joe rogan
You're eight.
ali siddiq
And it don't make sense to his goddamn 48-year-old father, like, either.
And I know this is probably the most controversial shit ever in life to even be said.
But I think that you can't have, you know, the shit that Kate can eat it to?
In my mind, it doesn't work like that.
You have to forfeit something in order to achieve something.
Something got to fucking go.
You can't have, in order to be successful, I have to spend time away from my family to do it.
So there's some things that I'm going to miss.
That's the sacrifice of the job.
That's the sacrifice of the business.
So if I don't want to be a comedian that's on the road, I don't want to travel into certain things that I can't do.
I didn't have kids before I could afford them.
If I wasn't going to work to take care of them, then I shouldn't have had them.
If I decide that women not in the cards for me, that's not what I want, then I should forfeit the right to try to have a fucking kid too.
Because you're not doing the steps to make a kid.
You're in a different zone now.
Do that shit.
Do whatever comes with that.
And a kid doesn't come with that because you can't You can't make it naturally.
You can't do what...
The shit that you're doing and the shit that you're about, that you accepted that you're about, is that now.
I can't be a football player and keep fucking trying to run basketball drills.
Some of this shit you gotta forfeit.
joe rogan
So you think that if someone's gay, if they have a gay relationship, no kids?
ali siddiq
No kids.
joe rogan
But what about if they adopt kids?
ali siddiq
They shouldn't have kids.
You're not doing...
You're not in a space for children.
joe rogan
But if they want to adopt kids.
ali siddiq
You want to fuck somebody up.
You want to put somebody in a position to be fucked up.
It's like getting a dog but not having no fucking place for the dog to be.
You want to take a dog that never put them outside.
You put them in a laundry room.
You put them in a laundry room in your apartment.
And that's it.
He pees on a mat.
He pees in a thing.
This is not no fucking dog no more.
He's an animal in a laundry room peeing on a fucking mat that's in a kennel.
And he runs around your house.
He has no idea of what it's like to be a fucking dog.
joe rogan
So you think a kid who gets adopted by gay parents, you feel like automatically they're going to get fucked up?
ali siddiq
They're going to be fucked up automatically!
joe rogan
Really?
You don't think that they can...
I have a neighbor in California and they had a surrogate raise their kid.
They're two gay guys.
And they mixed their sperm up so they didn't know whose it was.
And they hired a lady to get pregnant.
And they shot it in there.
And the first lady wanted to keep the baby.
She's like, fuck it, I'm keeping the baby.
And they had to let her keep the baby because it was...
It was inside of her body.
She grew it, and she was so attached to the baby that by the time it was born, she did not want to give up the baby.
ali siddiq
Exactly.
joe rogan
And then they hired another one, and then the second one gave up the baby.
And the kid, I watched him grow up.
He was my neighbor for probably eight years, somewhere around there.
I was friends with the gay couple, friends with the kid.
Kid seemed fine.
He seemed normal.
Come by the house on a skateboard, hang out.
He seemed like a normal kid.
Hung out with my kid.
They seemed okay to me.
You don't think that's possible?
You have a look on your face like there's no fucking way.
Look at the look on your face.
unidentified
Okay.
I try to be open-minded.
joe rogan
When I was a kid, I lived in San Francisco in a very gay neighborhood when I was seven years old.
From the time I was seven till I was 11, I lived in San Francisco.
And so I was around gay people all the time.
We were in this area near...
It was near Lombard Street, which is like the crookedest street in the world.
That's where we lived.
And it was just gay people everywhere.
It was normal to be around gay people.
For me.
ali siddiq
Gay people have been everywhere for as long as I've ever known.
joe rogan
But back then they didn't have kids.
ali siddiq
No, a lot of gay people.
joe rogan
That's true.
ali siddiq
None of them had kids.
joe rogan
They weren't adopting kids back then.
ali siddiq
They weren't adopting kids.
And not one of them, not one gay person I even know to this day that I even think is fucking responsible enough to have kids.
It's not like I don't know gay people.
I'm not against you being gay.
I'm against you being gay and having a fucking kid.
joe rogan
But don't you think there's a lot of kids out there that need to be adopted that no one wants to adopt?
Because I think there's more kids that need to be adopted than there are people that want to adopt kids.
Is that correct?
ali siddiq
Probably so.
There's probably a shit ton of kids that need to be adopted.
Kids need a lot of things.
But what you don't need is to be in another fucking chaotic environment with a fucking person who is doing some shit that is Different than what you do.
It's called an alternative lifestyle for a reason.
It's not knocking what you're doing, but you can't...
I think people just want normal shit with...
It's like...
This shit is like having...
Getting married and spending a lot on a wedding.
And it's not the normal circumstances.
This shit frustrates me to no end.
That men just get the fucking short end of the stick on everything because you just accept shit.
So you have a wedding.
A wedding costs $30,000, $40,000, $50,000 dollars.
But you paying for the wedding.
Is that how the shit go?
Is that how it's supposed to go?
That you, as the man, are supposed to pay for your wedding.
That's how it's supposed to go?
Or the father of the bride is supposed to pay for the wedding?
How is it actually supposed to go?
joe rogan
I think it's supposed to be the father of the bride.
ali siddiq
Is that how it's actually supposed to go, right?
joe rogan
I think so.
ali siddiq
Okay.
That's what I was taught.
I just wanted to make sure.
joe rogan
But a lot of times it turns out to be the bride, or the husband.
The husband winds up paying.
ali siddiq
But why is he spending...
This shit just fucking bothers me.
You want a traditional wedding with untraditional circumstances.
This shit is fucking stupid.
joe rogan
How's that untraditional?
Traditional is the father of the bride pays.
ali siddiq
The family of this woman pays.
Why are you going into some fucking sort of debt?
Or why are you even spending any of your money on this shit?
And you...
It's just unreasonable to me.
unidentified
It's just...
joe rogan
You have some very rigid ideas of what should and shouldn't happen.
ali siddiq
Why would...
It just...
I've seen so many people spend a bunch of money on a wedding and go back to the same motherfucking apartment that they would...
This...
You're...
joe rogan
That's true.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
It wastes a lot of money.
ali siddiq
You're not going...
You're not supposed to...
This wedding is not supposed to enhance.
You're supposed to take a...
You're supposed to go into debt.
You're supposed to take...
joe rogan
Big debt.
ali siddiq
You're supposed to work your ass off to spend $50,000, $30,000 with a person that you're already sleeping with that you already...
unidentified
That you got a child by!
Like...
ali siddiq
I'm done.
Like, I fucking hated the idea that men get fucking sucked in to this happy wife, happy life shit.
Like, so, your life is supposed to be fucking determined on this fucking emotional rollercoaster of an individual that you married to, and that's how your life is supposed to be happy, and she does a bunch of shit that don't make sense.
I paid for the wedding, but it's your day.
What?
I paid for a wedding planner that don't know neither one of us.
I plan your last surprise birthday party.
Why I can't plan this fucking wedding if I'm paying...
If I pay somebody some money to plan my wedding, you better not ask me no motherfucking questions.
You better be fucking telekinesic.
You better know what I want.
You better just fucking think of what I want.
You better ask me shit.
I better walk in and say, ooh, ice sculpture.
That's just what I wanted.
Don't ask my opinion on shit.
I just don't understand.
I just don't understand.
I'm paying for the dress.
unidentified
I'm paying for the shit.
joe rogan
And it's an industry.
ali siddiq
What do I get?
What do I get after I pay for all this shit?
joe rogan
You get to be legally entangled.
ali siddiq
But to the same person that I already...
joe rogan
And if you want to break up, you got to go to court.
Congratulations.
unidentified
This shit is insane.
joe rogan
And 50% of it goes to court.
50% of it gets divorced.
And you know what Chris Rock bit?
50% of the people.
Those are the ones that have the courage to leave.
How many fucking cowards stay and suffer?
That's true.
If you had a guess, out of all the marriages, what percentage are successful?
What percentage of the people are happy?
ali siddiq
I think 15% of marriages in the United States are happy.
I mean, are successful and happy.
joe rogan
15. I bet that's accurate.
ali siddiq
And out that 15...
out that 15 5% of the people have decided I'm not going to care about anything else that the person does I'm just going to deal with them at home when I see them.
Fuck what you do.
Nobody can come to me and tell me anything.
I saw Joe with 46 prostitutes and everybody was naked.
None of my fucking business.
He wasn't doing it at this house.
He didn't do it here.
I'm not fucking in my business.
Ali had 37 thick white gothic strippers.
Doing all type of weird shit.
Do you have it on tape?
No.
Were you there?
No.
She's not hearing it.
I'm content what happens here.
And then the rest of them are, you know, arguments here and there.
You know, we're rebuilding.
That shit.
joe rogan
It might be 20%.
It might be 20%.
ali siddiq
I don't think 20% of America is happy with America.
joe rogan
One out of five?
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
But it's not most.
That's what's crazy.
ali siddiq
That's the problem.
Regardless of how off we are on the percentage, it's not going towards, it's not higher the other end.
joe rogan
No way.
ali siddiq
That's just period.
joe rogan
What is the percentage of Americans who get divorced?
ali siddiq
Shit, 70, 80 percent.
joe rogan
I want to say it's at least 50. At least 50. Let's guess.
unidentified
I say 50. I say 75. 70. 75. I say high.
ali siddiq
I say that number is fucking high.
joe rogan
It's really, what a crazy risk if you stop and think about it.
ali siddiq
I think you already know the number.
I don't even know how you- I'm guessing.
joe rogan
I'm guessing.
I think it's like 50%.
I think it varies in different parts of the country.
I think California is extremely high.
I bet in California it's in the 60s.
ali siddiq
I think maybe in some rural land there's no divorces.
You gotta stay with your cousin!
Make the bloodline strong!
joe rogan
What do we got?
Make the bloodline strong!
jamie vernon
The first statistic is interesting is they base it off of per thousand.
The marriage rate or divorce rate is the lowest it's been in a while, but it's like 17.9 per thousand.
It still goes to 50% of all marriages in the United States will end in divorce or separation.
Researchers estimate that 41% of all first marriages end in divorce, 60% of second marriages, and 73% of third marriages end in divorce.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
If you're a three-time loser, and you're still getting married, you got a 73% chance of going to divorce, and you're still getting the ice sculpture.
Seafood tower.
You're still going all in with the band.
jamie vernon
At least three places with a higher divorce rate than the United States.
joe rogan
Russia doesn't fuck around.
Oh my god, Russia, that is wild.
ali siddiq
Russia quit.
It's over.
I think that's Russian men leaving.
joe rogan
Highest crude divorce rate.
What does that mean?
Why is it crude?
jamie vernon
The numbers are very strange on what they're...
Because then there's also, like, now that there's same-sex marriages, there's, like...
One of these statistics is something about women getting divorced at a different rate.
Yeah.
Married women is double that, but why wouldn't you?
joe rogan
The divorce rate per 1,000 married women is nearly double that of 1960, but down from the all-time high of 22.6 in the early 1980s.
So, like, so...
The gay marriages last longer?
jamie vernon
I'm just saying it's adding...
It changes the statistics.
joe rogan
What about gay women?
ali siddiq
They probably get divorced fast.
That's a violent relationship.
joe rogan
A lot of times.
ali siddiq
That's a very volatile relationship right there.
joe rogan
I have a friend who's a lesbian who's telling me that there's a gigantic issue of domestic abuse.
It's sort of like non-disgust in lesbian communities.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
ali siddiq
Because who you gonna call?
It's like a girl fight now.
It's like, my husband's with my ass!
And then Sheila comes out.
joe rogan
Because I was thinking that at least if you're a lesbian, the domestic abuse is off the table.
You don't get domestically abused.
Shit.
That's what I thought.
unidentified
That's what you thought, shit.
Look at your face!
joe rogan
I thought domestic abuse was just men.
ali siddiq
I've been to a lesbian club before and seen them motherfuckers out there fighting after that club behind each other.
Shit.
That's what you don't.
You'd rather break up a man, two men fighting, than two women fighting.
Oh my goodness.
unidentified
Really?
ali siddiq
It's so vicious.
It's so vicious.
A lesbian fight is a vicious fight.
I would rather...
A lesbian fight is way more brutal than a...
Gay man fight.
joe rogan
Really?
ali siddiq
Oh, gay man fight is different.
And I'm not saying gay men can't fight, because I know when I was locked up, I already tell people about this story, this dude named Sugar.
And when they hear the story, they're like, oh, he's gay, his name, they call him Sugar.
That's not why we called him Sugar.
It had nothing to do with his sexual orientation.
Sugar was...
We named him after Sugar Ray Robinson.
unidentified
Sugar Ray Leonard, goddammit.
ali siddiq
That motherfucker was fast because he used to box out of West Dallas.
And that motherfucker's hands was fast.
And if you say some slick shit to Sugar, he'll knock your ass out.
That's why we called him Sugar.
And he knocked this dude out in the shower area on Ellis, too.
And told him, he said, buy some underwear.
They was talking, and he told him to give him some clean underwear.
Because, you know, different underwear, people do, because everybody wear community, community is undergarments.
So when you get a clean pair, that's what you want.
So once you get a clean new pair, then you keep them.
You don't never give them back.
You just wash them out yourself.
So the dude wanted some new underwear, and he didn't ask for it properly.
He called Sugar a bitch.
unidentified
Like, bitch, give me some fresh underwear, hoe!
ali siddiq
And Ellis, too, in the shower area, they throw the underwear from up under this wall, so you really can't even see who's doing it.
So when he called through the bitch, and we all saw Sugar do this, Sugar looked under the thing and was like, who you calling the bitch?
unidentified
So you could see.
ali siddiq
He's like, you, bitch!
And boy...
Sugar told him, when he came around the thing, he said, man, don't fucking disrespect me.
And he called him all type of gay shit, and da-da-da-da, and Sugar said, alright, you say one more word to me, I'm gonna beat your ass, I'm gonna put my finger in your booty after I knock your ass out, too.
Man, you gotta be a hell of a fighter to fight in the shower area.
Like, the shower area is like, you got to fucking be...
A good fighter.
You gotta know what the fuck you doing.
And this ain't like you a bad fighter.
Anything can happen in the shower area.
You can slip, go over.
It's a lot of shit can happen.
This is not where you want to fucking fight at.
But, true to the character, Sugar knocked his ass out right in that fucking shower area.
Yep, sure did.
joe rogan
He stuck a finger in his booty?
ali siddiq
Stuck his finger right in his ass.
joe rogan
While he was out cold?
unidentified
Oh my God.
ali siddiq
Woke him up.
Get the smelling sauce!
joe rogan
Oh my God.
That's a funny thing to say too.
I'm going to stick my finger in your booty.
ali siddiq
And now you're on a unit.
Now you're on a unit when you can't even really talk shit no more.
You ain't got no respect motherfucker to do you like this.
Hey man!
The smell of sauce, they bring it up.
Get your ass whooped, boy.
unidentified
Oh, no.
ali siddiq
That's the thing about underestimating somebody or thinking that shit all sweet.
Like somebody, it was a dude called Lucy Pearl.
He was called Lucy Pearl.
And you would come to that unit and you would think, Lucy Pearl, you'd think, oh, he gay.
No, we call him Lucy Pearl.
That ain't got shit to do.
That's the nickname that he had from the street.
Lucy Pearl.
We didn't know why they fucking called him Lucy Pearl.
We just called him Lucy Pearl.
Man, get your ass beat by Lucy Pearl.
Go on, play with him if you want to.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
You ever heard of Emil Griffith?
Neil Griffith was a world midway champion back in, I want to say, the early 60s, and maybe it might have been the 50s.
Somewhere in the 60s or 50s, but there was a guy named Benny Perret.
ali siddiq
Benny Perret.
joe rogan
And Benny Perret talked a lot of shit about Emile Griffith because Emile was gay.
And he said a lot of shit about him.
And Emile killed him.
ali siddiq
Killed him.
joe rogan
Killed him in the ring.
See if you can find that.
See if you find that fight.
It's a horrendous beating.
He has him on the ropes and he beats him.
I mean, he beats this motherfucker to death.
Like, literally.
And this guy had been talking all kinds of shit about him being gay, and he just teased off on him.
His head's snapping back.
Look at this.
That's ferocious.
Angry.
And he just slumped down and never got up.
That was it.
He's dead.
ali siddiq
He dead?
joe rogan
Oh, he's dead.
He died.
He died there.
What year was it, Jamie?
It was black and white.
So it was a long fucking time ago.
ali siddiq
Damn!
joe rogan
He never got up.
He died right there.
Never stood up.
I mean, if you watch that combination, I mean, go back and watch that combination again.
I mean, Emile Griffith just beats him to death.
He gets him in the corner and just starts teeing off with uppercuts.
And it was just, the last combination, it wasn't just that he was trying to beat him.
It was like he was trying to beat him to death.
It's like he was fucking ferocious.
ali siddiq
Damn.
I'm talking about shit.
He never got up?
joe rogan
Never got up.
No, he died.
Here it is.
So he gets him in the corner and this is the final combination.
He was already beaten up.
Emile Griffith was a bad motherfucker, but he just happened to be gay.
What are you doing here, Jamie?
There it is.
Boom!
And look at the fucking ferocity.
Look at his head snapping back.
Boom!
And he's being kept up by the ropes.
Look at this.
I mean, just teeing off.
How many shots are landing?
ali siddiq
They should have broke that up a long time ago.
joe rogan
But that was a fierce time.
Back then, they would let fights go, man.
You ever watch those old Jack Johnson fights where they didn't even let them stand up?
As soon as you picked your knee up off the ground, they'd come and punch you in the face.
They didn't even let you.
Like today, you get up, standing eight count, they brush your gloves off, stay in a neutral corner, they bring them back together again.
What year was that, Jamie?
Does it say?
ali siddiq
It's like the Cinderella...
What is it?
Cinderella Man time.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was like that.
unidentified
62. 1962. Beat them to death.
ali siddiq
That wasn't that...
Shit!
joe rogan
Yeah.
But that was...
That was the whole...
Look at his face, man.
ali siddiq
It might hit that pole.
He might hit that pole.
joe rogan
He probably did.
ali siddiq
He probably hit that pole.
joe rogan
That was just a pole, too.
Like, look at that.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Jesus Christ.
ali siddiq
And look at that metal-ass thing.
He probably hit that shit.
joe rogan
Well, that wasn't the problem.
The problem was the punches.
ali siddiq
That was banging his head the other side.
joe rogan
I don't know.
When he was outside the ropes and he just kept hitting them with those uppercuts, it was a horrific beating.
That was the thing about it.
It's like he had statements that he said afterwards about that guy calling him gay and calling him a bunch of gay slurs.
ali siddiq
Damn!
joe rogan
That's a terrifying image of seeing the dude slumped over knowing that he's dead there.
He just got beaten to death in a boxing match.
It's pretty rare.
There's one that was close to that.
Did you ever see when Ray Mercer knocked out Tommy Morrison?
unidentified
Whoo!
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ali siddiq
Vaguely remember it.
joe rogan
One of the most ferocious KOs you'll ever see in your life.
ali siddiq
I've seen some.
I thought Muhammad Ali.
I mean, not Muhammad.
I thought Mike Tyson had killed.
joe rogan
Marvis Frazier?
That was to me the scariest Tyson Tyson versus Marvis Frazier was the scariest because that was Tyson I was prime Tyson Prime and didn't quite fight for the title yet, but was on the way He was a that was ABC wide world sports days when you would tune in just to watch him execute somebody with When boxing came on TV in the daytime.
Yes!
Back in those Ray Boom Boom Mancini days.
So what happened with Ray Mercer is he was beating the shit out of Tommy Morrison and Tommy got caught up in the ropes.
So look at this.
He's caught up in the ropes.
Look at this.
I mean, he just wailed them.
And this is Ray Mercer when Ray Mercer was an Olympic gold medalist.
Oh my goodness, the power that Ray Mercer had.
Oh my god.
And look when he went down.
I mean, that was pretty close.
That looked like a dead man.
Ray Mercer could fucking crack.
Ray Mercer had one, like, sorta, it was kind of an MMA fight.
It was supposed to be a boxing match with this guy Tim Sylvia, and Ray Mercer was like 50 years old.
He was like late 40s.
And they were supposed to have a boxing match, but the Athletic Commission, that's Tim Sylvia, he used to be the UFC heavyweight champion.
And so they made a deal, okay, we'll just use only our hands.
Pause right there.
Pause it right there.
Let me just lay this out.
They were supposed to have a boxing match, And the Athletic Commission said there's no way Tim Silvey has no boxing matches, no way we can sanction a fight against Ray Mercer, who has a shitload of boxing matches, was one of the world's best heavyweights.
There's no way at one point in time he was one of the world's best heavyweights, fought everybody.
There's no fucking way we can sanction that boxing match.
And they said, well, what about if it's an MMA fight?
And they said, okay, well, that's okay.
And then Ray Mercer had to make a deal with Tim Sylvia.
He goes, look, they're calling an MMA fight, but we're just going to box with gloves on.
And Tim said, yes, that's the deal.
So then the fight opens, you know, started up again, and he kicks him.
And watch the look on Ray's face.
Like, what the fuck?
See?
He's like, what the fuck?
So watch this.
Watch what happens.
Right here.
ali siddiq
Boom!
joe rogan
Timber.
I mean, one shot.
That is the difference.
ali siddiq
Ray Mercer set out on it too.
Bam!
joe rogan
And he was 40s, like late 40s, maybe even 50 by then.
He was old.
ali siddiq
Like, I'm old.
But it's people in the gym.
Main Street, boxing gym in Houston.
It's some old men in that gym.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There's an old man at the gym.
I was in a gym in Austin today.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
A boxing gym in Austin today.
There was an old dude fucking that bag up.
This dude had to be 64, 65 years old.
ali siddiq
Oh, it's a man.
joe rogan
He's lighting that bag up.
ali siddiq
It's a man in Houston.
They call him Bird.
He has a day in Houston.
He saved some people that was in a burning building.
They was in a burning house.
He ran in and got them out.
And he was old then.
He like 70-something.
And he just, he comes around, he cleans up the gym.
And you can come in there talking shit all you want to.
You gotta realize that he has on his shoes.
Like, he has on his boxing shoes.
Every day.
He got his fucking shit strapped up to the top.
If you're not paying attention, you don't understand this old man got his shit on.
So if you want to do something, and he looks the part.
He looks like he just finished.
He fought Jack Johnson back in the day and some shit.
And that's the thing that I love about being in a gym.
Any type of fighting gym.
You monitor yourself in a gym, in a fighting gym.
Not a workout gym, a fighting gym.
Come in there with a bad day.
Come in there talking shit.
Come in there with anything.
It's somebody in there that's willing to oblige your shit any day of the week.
I don't give a damn when you come in there.
Be the dude off the street talking about boxing ain't shit and you come in there, you a big dude, you can come in there and do it.
Go!
We'll line your ass up.
Pick somebody in here.
Pick whoever you think in this goddamn gym you can handle.
Shit.
And we watch him fall every time.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ali siddiq
Oh, you picked the little Mexican guy.
Okay, cool.
joe rogan
Good luck.
ali siddiq
Good luck with this little five-foot motherfucker.
You don't understand.
You about to fight fucking Joe Frazier.
You have no idea that you about to fucking fight Frazier.
You about to fight a fucking Spanish Frazier that ain't got no fucking pushback or the leg!
That shit is full steam ahead!
unidentified
Did you ever see that video?
joe rogan
There's an old man in a sweater, like a bald old man in a sweater who beats the fuck out of this young kid who looks jacked.
This young dude looks like he does CrossFit.
He's like 25 years old, ripped.
This old dude's gotta be 65 years old.
And he pounds the gloves.
Fucking hits himself in the head a couple times, comes out bobbing and weaving, and you're like, what?
What is happening?
Like, it doesn't even look real.
Like, you look at this old guy, he's got bad posture, he's got a sweater on, but as soon as he gets those gloves on, with a sweater, wearing a sweater, beats the fuck out of this guy.
Like, the thing only lasts, like, 20 seconds.
You know that video?
You know the video, right?
It's a pretty famous video, because it's hilarious.
Here it is.
So look at this young guy.
He's got a fucking man bun.
Look at him, all jacked and shit.
Look at this old guy with a sweater on.
ali siddiq
I've never even seen this one.
joe rogan
Oh, watch this.
He thinks it's funny.
The young guy thinks it's funny.
Okay, I'll box you.
Watch this old dude.
He gives himself a couple shots in the face.
All right, bitch, let's get going.
That young kid's in trouble right off the bat.
ali siddiq
Bad feet, everything.
joe rogan
So he gets up, he's not even letting him up.
He goes, "Okay, okay, okay, I'm done." That old guy just beat the fuck out of that young guy.
ali siddiq
I thought it was this other video where this dude was going around the gym bullying people and it was like Mike Tyson's son that he ran into.
Either it was Mike Tyson's son or it was some other famous boxer's son that the dude didn't know and he gets his ass plummeted.
joe rogan
Mike Tyson Jr.?
Is that really?
jamie vernon
That's just what the video says.
It might not be him.
joe rogan
I don't necessarily think that's really Mike Tyson.
Oh, this is this guy.
This guy is known for going up to people in gyms and punching them.
You know who beat the fuck out of him in the gym?
Deontay Wilder.
Deontay Wilder's wild.
ali siddiq
That may have been the one.
Deontay beat the fuck out of him.
He was fucking with people and then he ran into and got his ass rained.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Deontay's one of the hardest punchers of all time.
You know, Deontay, before he lost to Tyson Fury, he had, I believe it was...
39 victories by knockout out of 40 fights.
He was undefeated.
39 by knockout.
You know how crazy that is to have 40 fights and only one?
I think it was...
Stavurn made the...
He made it to the decision in the first fight and the second fight, he knocked him out quick.
ali siddiq
We had...
You know, because in the barbershop, we just...
We talk shit all the time.
And I've said that Fury was going to beat Wilder.
I took a lot of shit for this.
joe rogan
Was this the first fight?
ali siddiq
I said the first and the second one.
joe rogan
Well, the first fight went up to a draw.
ali siddiq
I just said he was going to beat him.
I'm going with, yes, I'm going with Emmanuel Stewart.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is a long time ago, too.
Look how shitty the internet footage is.
This guy's getting beat up by Deontay Wilder.
And when Deontay Wilder punches people, they stay punched.
The only one who's been able to take it, the only one, has been Tyson Fury.
He's the only one.
Everybody else he hits, like when he hit Luis Ortiz, he hit him in the forehead.
One straight right, blap, and walked away because he knew it was over.
And Ortiz, his body crumpled, and the look on his face was like, what the fuck just hit me?
That's how hard Dante Wilder hits.
ali siddiq
You ever heard of Regis Prevost?
joe rogan
No.
ali siddiq
Young fighter coming up with...
He follows Josh Taylor.
He just had a fight in Dubai with his Irish kid.
Regis is a hard-hitting lightweight.
He's 140. His hand's like cement.
You would see him hit somebody, and then you'd be hearing all these other fighters...
joe rogan
Oh, I have seen this dude fight.
I have seen this dude fight.
ali siddiq
He just had a fight in Dubai.
He hit this fucking Irish boy so hard.
And I was like...
And he looked so small.
He's so awkward.
He a softball.
But that motherfucker...
joe rogan
And this Irish dude was in the fight, too.
He was hitting him with some good shots up until the end.
unidentified
There's guys that just can fucking punch, man.
ali siddiq
It's just fucking people who can fight.
And it's like, I'm in the gym so much and I be watching these fighters.
joe rogan
What are you doing, Jamie?
He's about to knock them out.
jamie vernon
I wasn't even sure that that was the fight.
ali siddiq
Yeah, he didn't fight.
He didn't knock Josh out.
I think Josh is the champion.
jamie vernon
Oh, this is an hour fight.
joe rogan
Oh, this is not the fight I'm talking about.
jamie vernon
I was trying to find the one you guys are looking at.
ali siddiq
The one in Dubai where he just hit that Irish kid.
joe rogan
Right, it's not the Josh Taylor fight.
Who was it that he fought?
ali siddiq
I think if you put Dubai, because I forget this kid, the Irish guy.
That's the Irish guy right at the bottom.
joe rogan
Tyrone McKenna.
That's it.
ali siddiq
Irish Tyrone.
joe rogan
That's it.
That's a boom right there.
ali siddiq
That shit is crazy.
Regis is fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Over the top.
Some people can just fucking punch, man.
Punching power is a weird thing.
ali siddiq
Punching power is a weird situation.
And I measure you, like most boxers, I measure.
And I have a sneaky, very sneaky right.
If I catch you, if I catch you with that right, it's a problem.
You're gonna have a problem.
I don't even fuck why I catch you with that.
It's gone.
It's gone.
That's why the knuckle is so cracked down.
And when I hurt my hand...
I've had...
This hand has been through some shit.
I cracked my front windshield.
I punched that twice and cracked it.
joe rogan
Why'd you punch a windshield?
ali siddiq
Man, this is when you argue with people, man.
That's why I had to stop.
This is very early on in the relationship where I couldn't...
I couldn't defeat her in any arguments.
joe rogan
She's a good arguer?
ali siddiq
Oh, my goodness.
Because...
You can't win if you're trying to make sense.
And I remember I would be arguing with a person that said, fuck the facts.
When you argue with somebody who said, fuck the facts.
joe rogan
That is the last thing you want to hear in an argument.
Fuck the facts.
What are we doing then?
What are we doing?
ali siddiq
It's like...
It's like...
And you just get mad because somebody just said, fuck the facts.
unidentified
Like...
We gonna argue without the facts?
Like...
ali siddiq
Oh, okay.
In my truck, in my truck, my mechanic, my mechanic, Sam, he said...
I went and got something done, and he said, hey, I gave you a present.
I said, what?
I bent your steering wheel back up.
unidentified
You bent your fucking steering wheel back like this?
ali siddiq
Forward.
unidentified
Forward?
ali siddiq
I bent it.
I was so fucking mad.
unidentified
What the fuck are you talking about?
ali siddiq
And I hadn't got mad enough to put it back up.
unidentified
So every time you're driving, it's like wobbling all over the place.
ali siddiq
I was fucking pissed, man.
Like, so...
That's the thing.
When I'm in the ring, even when we doing the pads, James is like, oh, fucking right hand, man.
It's like my little kids, my little boy's left.
Hassan has a left hand.
That is a fucking problem.
joe rogan
How long has he been boxing?
ali siddiq
Two years.
joe rogan
Really?
ali siddiq
And he's just...
How old is he?
He's 11 now.
I won't let him fight yet.
joe rogan
The thing, it's good when they do it young.
You know why?
Because they don't hurt each other.
Because they don't hit that hard.
There's a thing about it, like, when you get them in, like, five, six, seven years old, they hit each other, but they can't hit each other like a 13-year-old or a 14-year-old.
When they get to be, like, 14, 15, they start knocking each other out, and then that becomes a problem with, like, brain damage.
But if you could teach a kid to get comfortable with, like, looking at a punch as it comes near them instead of, like, wincing and closing their eyes, those kids...
They develop fast reflexes and great counterpunching.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
So I won't let him fight yet.
I don't want him spawning.
I just want him training, getting his thing.
So what happens is when you have...
Because he was 10 at the time, because he just turned 11. He's walking the dog around the neighborhood.
We live in a pretty nice neighborhood.
He's been living over here most of his life.
And some kids told him he wasn't...
He walking his dog.
He's just walking his dog.
And I don't even understand what kind of kids these were.
Maybe because Haris was little at the time, but he's a cane.
So he's little, but he's big.
Like, this is not a little dog.
This is a big dog.
joe rogan
So they're talking shit to your son while he's got a Cane Corso with him?
That's a crazy dog.
Those are wild dogs.
ali siddiq
So he...
The dude tell him, you ain't supposed to be around here.
Hassan is confused.
Like, what?
I live around here.
Like, what's going on?
And these kids are in middle school.
Hassan is homeschooled and he's only 10. And them kids ran up on Hassan.
joe rogan
With the dog?
ali siddiq
With the dog.
Hassan told Harish to sit.
Haris sat right there, and my teen-year-old went to work.
Really?
joe rogan
While the dog's just sitting there watching it?
ali siddiq
And Haris just sitting there.
That's a well-trained dog.
And then after the boys started running off, because Hassan went to work, he said, get him, Haris.
And I was like, Hassan.
Everything that you did was perfect.
But you can't send Hi-Reese.
Hi-Reese was a puppy at the time.
unidentified
How old was he?
ali siddiq
Maybe eight months.
He was a puppy at the time.
Now, you can't...
I don't even think nobody even...
Hi-Reese sounds like he has a hemi in his chest.
I know when anybody comes around my house with Hi-Reese.
You can hear him.
You can see him.
It starts rumbling up before he even barks.
joe rogan
Those are scary dogs.
ali siddiq
Oh, that's me.
That's mine.
That's him.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ali siddiq
Look at the size of him.
And I made the question high.
joe rogan
Quick question.
What made you jump the gate?
Can you imagine jumping a gate and seeing that motherfucker waiting for you?
unidentified
Go shrink it a little bit.
ali siddiq
Look how cool he is.
Look at his leg.
unidentified
He's casual.
He's like...
joe rogan
Sitting to the side.
The size of him.
unidentified
Yeah.
The size of his head.
ali siddiq
He is 111 now.
He weighs 111 pounds.
joe rogan
Athletic.
ali siddiq
And he...
This is the only dog I've ever seen that can fucking steal...
He can run full speed to the side.
Yeah.
We'll go out and he'll be running and I'll change directions on him.
And his fucking ligaments just steal to the...
unidentified
I'm like...
joe rogan
You know what it is?
It's because he's not too big.
It's like there's a size that they get.
Like, I used to have a Mastiff, and they're too big.
They get like 150, 160. They're too big.
They can't move that good.
But 110, you could still move real good.
But they have so much power.
Those Cane Corsos have crazy power.
ali siddiq
Man, he is...
Like, I had to...
Like, they'll say, oh, he's so scared of you.
He has to be.
He's not scared of anybody else in the house.
He's not scared of another single person in his house.
Me, he don't play with me at all.
He knows out of everybody in the world, I'm the only one that'll kill him.
Like, with my bare fucking hands.
He know.
And I went and talked to somebody.
It's me.
It wasn't just him.
It was me.
I reason was digging and I got on his ass about digging and I popped him and he ran to his house and I went over to talk to him and I'm like, yo man, I told you about this goddamn digging.
And he postured up like he was gonna attack.
Like he had it.
And in a second, I was in his house.
I was in his doghouse.
And I had already grabbed his neck.
And I had him up against the wood in the back of his doghouse.
And like, yo, who the fuck are you showing your fucking teeth to?
And he was looking at me like, get your ass out of my house.
unidentified
Like, you ain't supposed to be in here.
ali siddiq
Like, yo, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Get out of my house.
Shit.
And at the time, I was looking like, I'm not scared of shit when you're in the wrong.
He's 110 pounds.
He know I throw his motherfucking ass over the gate.
I've picked this dog up with one hand by his collar and I have my thumb up on his leash.
I'm like, yo, man, who the fuck are you playing with?
Who are you playing with?
And he's just up in the air with all his legs dangling.
I'm like, yo man, Harish, you better fucking stop playing with me.
joe rogan
How old is he now?
ali siddiq
He's a year old now.
And he's lost some weight.
joe rogan
That's the thing about those dogs is that they do test you.
ali siddiq
And I'm not to fucking be tested.
joe rogan
My friend Mark had one that bit his hand.
He had to get rid of it.
It was growling at his wife, and then he went to discipline it about something and it clamped down on his hand.
He wound up getting stitches, go to the hospital, and then...
ali siddiq
He lucky.
He was a puppy.
joe rogan
He got rid of it.
No, no, it was full grown.
ali siddiq
Full grown?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
You know the PSI on that dog's jaws is like 700 pounds.
joe rogan
Whatever it is, it's crazy.
ali siddiq
It's fucking crazy.
It's way like a pit bull.
Yeah, a pit bull ain't shit when it comes to the bite of this goddamn dog.
joe rogan
No, they're so much bigger than pit bulls.
ali siddiq
Oh, man.
joe rogan
You know a wolf has a bite that's five times greater than a pit bull?
ali siddiq
And he up there, this shit is up there with a wolf.
joe rogan
Really?
ali siddiq
Yeah, the PSI... On that Connor is fucking insane.
joe rogan
There's a lot of those dogs that turn on their owners.
You know, probably raised incorrectly, but my friend, Mark, whose dog bit him, he had him very well trained.
I mean, he did everything he could.
He put him through all kinds of training, and he just had a problem with the dog.
And then I had another friend who had another carne corso, same thing.
Dog turned on him.
Now, I don't know if it's the way that they were raising him.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But, like, you telling me that story, too, about the dog baring his teeth at you?
I don't like dogs that do that.
It's too risky.
It's too risky.
Because what if he goes to your wife?
You know, what if he turns to your kid?
Like, that's where I draw the line.
When dogs, like house dogs, like your family dog, bears their teeth at you and, like, threatens to bite.
And, like, look, I'm not the fucking dog whisperer.
I'm not home anymore.
I go on the road too much.
I can't have some wild crazy ass fucking dog in my house.
I got a golden retriever.
That dog's not biting anybody.
Ever.
Ever.
He's the sweetest dog in the world.
He just gives you kisses.
ali siddiq
My role manager, Dre, you met him.
His dog fucking hates me.
unidentified
Why?
ali siddiq
His dog in the cage.
Fucking crazy ass dog.
joe rogan
You know what the scariest dogs are to me?
Belgian Malinois.
ali siddiq
Oh, it's one named Rex.
He's so much taller than my dog.
My dog's a big-ass dog, but that's a big-ass dog.
joe rogan
Most Belgian Malinois aren't big.
ali siddiq
No, his shit is a...
joe rogan
Really?
ali siddiq
Oh, man, this black-ass face on this dog.
And I think he don't cut his hair like that.
Like, he don't...
Like, I've seen him where they head be low.
His shit hang at the bottom.
This dog and his tail is...
I'm like, yo, this is a big-ass dog.
It's a big-ass dog.
Like, when I see him, I'm like, yo, that's a big-ass dog.
joe rogan
They have these ones that they train, like, for...
ali siddiq
Drugs and...
joe rogan
Yeah, all kinds of shit.
And they train them for, like, tactical things.
And there's one Belgian mama that jumps off this dude's back and jumps into the air to grab a tire.
And the thing is flying.
It's going like...
It looks like it jumped 30 feet in the air.
I can't even believe how high it jumped.
Have you ever seen those, Jamie?
ali siddiq
Oh, you ever seen this thing on a...
joe rogan
Watch this.
This right here.
Like, what the fuck, man?
ali siddiq
What the fuck, dude?
joe rogan
That's got to be 20 feet.
ali siddiq
Yeah, this stick right here.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
ali siddiq
This stick right here is fucking insane.
And that's crazy.
And see, that dog...
joe rogan
Look at this.
I mean, that is insane.
ali siddiq
He's flying!
joe rogan
He's flying!
I mean, that doesn't even seem like he should be able to do that.
ali siddiq
Why would you train this dog to do this crazy shit?
joe rogan
Because they can jump over fences.
They can do shit that other dogs...
Look, he's got a cape on.
They can do shit that other dogs just can't do in terms of athletic...
ali siddiq
Look at this lander.
joe rogan
Well, their athletic ability is just...
Watch this.
Off the tree, and he does a flip.
Look at that shit!
And grabs a hold of the rope.
ali siddiq
He gotta catch him.
You better catch your goddamn dog.
Yeah, you gotta catch him.
joe rogan
Yeah, otherwise he's gonna break his legs.
Look at him run up the tree like that.
I mean, that is bananas, man.
ali siddiq
So it's a cane.
It's kind of that they have running up this wall to chase this thing.
Like, that shit.
joe rogan
That is a smart dog, just to be able to figure out how to do that.
Like, how would you even train your dog to run up a wall and then kick back backwards and flip?
Look at this shit.
Look at the amount of fucking height that they can get off the top of that wall.
ali siddiq
Two touches.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
They're exceptional dogs.
Like, if one of those is chasing you, you're fucked.
They're not that big.
Dogs like that, they're like 60 pounds.
It doesn't matter.
They get you.
They're ripping the tendons off your arms.
ali siddiq
I need to send you a picture of this crazy-ass dog that's off the lake.
When I see him, I'm gonna fold you a picture of this big-ass dog.
His face is just black.
He red, though.
He'd just be looking at you like...
joe rogan
Maybe he's mixed with something.
Maybe he's got, like, German Shepherd in him or something.
He's a big Shepherd.
ali siddiq
Oh, shit.
It's a guy in our neighborhood.
He has a Kane and a Great Dane mixed.
joe rogan
Mixed?
Oh my god.
ali siddiq
It's a moose.
It's like a moose.
And then what makes him look way iller, he has a clipped lip.
His lips are clipped, so it shows a portion of his top teeth.
Like he walking, you just see them teeth right there.
And I was like, I said, your dog look vicious and shit.
He's like...
He said, man, this dog is Scooby-Doo.
He said, if something scare him, I'd rather let the leash go than to try to hold on to it because he's just going to run.
He's just going to fucking run.
Run away.
He's Scooby-Doo.
He said, he look big.
If you jumped the gate and you saw him and he was standing there, you're like, oh shit, and his teeth is already showing on the side, you're like, oh, I'm out of here.
joe rogan
They're doing weird shit with pit bulls now.
I've seen some pit bulls now that are like short dogs that are just fucking, they look like Ronnie Coleman.
ali siddiq
The XLs, what they call them, XL bullies.
joe rogan
140 pounds, like pit bulls, 140 pounds.
ali siddiq
With a Lou Ferrigno chest, like some goddamn dog is this.
joe rogan
They used to be little.
Pitbulls, when they used to fight them, they would fight them.
They were like 35 pounds, 40 pounds.
They wanted them little because they could pull them off the other dog.
They wanted to be able to carry them.
ali siddiq
It's jacked up.
joe rogan
That's a puppy.
ali siddiq
That's a puppy.
He got shoulders.
He got human shoulders.
joe rogan
That looks like a bodybuilder.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
They get so big.
Look at the size of them.
Oh, have you ever seen that one, The Hulk?
Find that one, The Hulk.
I think he's...
unidentified
I mean, he looks like he's got to be close to 200 pounds.
joe rogan
Look at the fucking head on that one on the far right.
XL Pitbulls, XLMonsterBullies.com.
Look at the head on that fucking dude.
ali siddiq
What are they doing to these goddamn dogs?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that...
Look at the size of him.
That's The Hulk.
175 pounds.
Look at the fucking head on him.
What the fuck is that?
Is that Photoshop?
jamie vernon
A little of the perspective.
joe rogan
It's a perspective thing.
Yeah, the guy's got the camera right up on the dog and the guy's behind him laying back on the couch.
ali siddiq
But pull up Bruce Wayne.
Oh, what is that, a rat?
joe rogan
That's weird, man.
It's a pug looking.
Go to one of them on the picnic blanket.
Yeah, right there.
That's when you get a sense of the real size of them.
That is a big fucking pit bull.
But those dogs are not athletic.
unidentified
Is that a girl?
joe rogan
The girl people?
unidentified
No, there's a boy.
ali siddiq
It's a boy.
He's having puppies?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's the girl with him.
Jesus Christ.
150 pound puppy.
Set to outgrow the Hulk.
What?
150 pound puppy?
What the fuck?
ali siddiq
He's 150 pounds now?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, what are they doing to these dogs to make them that big?
That's what I don't understand.
ali siddiq
Like, Bruce Wayne is normal.
He's a normal king.
joe rogan
I've never seen Bruce Wayne.
ali siddiq
Oh, he's a psycho.
Yes, Bruce Wayne.
joe rogan
Is it Connie Corso?
ali siddiq
Yes, that's Bruce Wayne.
joe rogan
That's a big fucking dog.
ali siddiq
That's Bruce Wayne.
Bruce Wayne is insane.
joe rogan
How much does he weigh?
Look at his head next to that dude's head.
ali siddiq
That's his girlfriend.
That's his wife.
Bruce Wade is like 6'2".
joe rogan
You imagine breaking into that house and that fucking demon comes for you?
There was a famous actor who had a couple Conde Corsos and they killed someone in his yard.
Like someone jumped the fence or maybe a gardener.
Someone who...
ali siddiq
My garden don't do it.
joe rogan
Who's the guy who does the Arby's?
We have the meat.
Who does the voice of that?
ali siddiq
Damn.
I don't know.
I'm shook on that one.
But I like the voice.
jamie vernon
Ving Rhames?
joe rogan
That's right!
Ving Rhames.
Ving Rhames, I believe...
ali siddiq
Wait a minute!
Ving Rhames is a fucking Arby's voice?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Arby's.
We have the meats.
That's Ving Rhames.
Yeah, I didn't know that either.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
I think...
I think...
I recognize it.
You didn't recognize it?
Yeah.
2007. Was it Carne Corsos?
Or is it a Dogo Argentino?
ali siddiq
Probably them Dogos.
jamie vernon
Killed a living caretaker at the actor's home.
joe rogan
Yeah, what kind of dog?
jamie vernon
I typed in, that's how I got to it.
It said he had four dogs.
The largest weighed nearly 200 pounds.
Numerous dog bites all over his body.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a bad way to go.
ali siddiq
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Getting mauled by a dog that you're supposed to be watching in a guy's house.
unidentified
The guy's like, don't worry, they won't fuck you up.
ali siddiq
Nah.
joe rogan
No.
ali siddiq
Not if that dog got to know you.
joe rogan
Yeah, they gotta know you really well.
ali siddiq
That dog has to fucking know you.
Yeah.
And another thing is, I am leery, like, if my kids get in trouble, it depends on how I'm talking to them.
joe rogan
You don't want the dog to think you're angry at your kid like they should attack your kid?
ali siddiq
Because he's going to defend them.
joe rogan
Right.
ali siddiq
Like, that's one thing I do know about him.
He don't play about them kids.
Like, even...
I've watched him one time, just observed him, and...
My kid's running crazy, and he went by the street.
Like, he laid by the street, like...
joe rogan
To make sure they don't go out the street.
ali siddiq
They don't go in the street.
He's like, y'all going too far.
joe rogan
That's a smart...
What is this?
Ving Rhames' dog didn't kill him.
Oh, that is right.
Now I remember.
I think he had a heart attack.
jamie vernon
Yeah, so there's dog bites on his body, but the bites didn't kill him.
joe rogan
Well, what does that mean, though?
jamie vernon
The toxicology report was, at the time, still pending.
I mean...
joe rogan
The dogs didn't kill him.
Maybe he had a heart attack and died while the dogs were biting him.
ali siddiq
Right?
joe rogan
Because you could be like, oh my god, this is how I'm gonna die and have a fucking heart attack.
This leads us to believe that he went down for some other medical reason.
He said, when animals attack humans or other animals, the victims usually end up with bites around the head and neck.
He had none.
Oh, well maybe he had a heart attack or maybe he had a stroke or a seizure or something.
He was like spazzing out and the dogs attacked his body.
ali siddiq
I know one thing.
The people, when you get a birthday sign put up, for your kids, happy birthday, we had a sign done in front of the house.
And they came to get the sign.
But we wasn't home.
And the dog was like, what the fuck is y'all doing around here?
I don't know y'all.
And got out that gate, and it was like, in front of the house like, y'all, Get y'all ass in that truck.
So they was in the truck just trying to get...
And they had to call like, hey, are y'all close?
Because y'all...
And he was a baby.
He was still a baby.
Like, get y'all ass from around here.
Like, y'all don't belong over here.
And we pulled up.
He just in the yard just...
Sitting there, turning his head.
Anytime he turns his head to the side, he's trying to figure it out.
Like, oh, this is my people.
Y'all know them?
joe rogan
Okay.
We're all cool?
ali siddiq
We good?
joe rogan
Okay.
ali siddiq
And my neighbor, the other day, I came out the gate, and my neighbor was doing some yard work, and his gate was open.
And he didn't know I was out there.
And he heard the gate open, and all he heard was holla, oh, shit!
And I said, you okay?
He said, ah!
Boy, I thought that dog had got out.
And because the dog had been, my son hadn't closed the gate properly.
And then he got out and he probably was running around the neighborhood and couldn't figure out which house was his.
So he just went and sat in front of their house.
And then he's on the, he's on the, they saw him on the camera and they called like, hey, um, Your baby is on our porch.
Because don't nobody go out there when Harreese is on the scene.
Harreese is...
And he's a friendly dog.
But no, people don't know that.
I get it.
Because when he come out...
joe rogan
He just looks too scary.
ali siddiq
Yeah, he looks scary.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks so scary with their heads.
ali siddiq
His ears are cropped.
But the thing is, he has stitches.
jamie vernon
That's the kind of dog that Ving Rhames had, apparently.
joe rogan
Oh, Presa Canario.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
That's another crazy dog.
ali siddiq
That's another crazy-ass dog.
joe rogan
Yeah, all those dogs that they have developed as protection dogs, you know, those are the dogs that kind of sketch me out because it seems like those dogs need a lot of work.
That you can't just have them as a pet.
Like, I could just come home, I don't worry about my dog's mood.
You know, with those dogs, you've got to work them out.
It's like having a fighter.
Like, you've got to get his road work in.
He's got to hit the bag.
You've got to relax him.
Look at that dog.
That dog has a desire to kill.
ali siddiq
And look at the different crops on the ears too.
It's like...
joe rogan
Oh, that's scary.
And I love that brindle.
That's like some of my favorite looking dogs.
Those brindle dogs that have that cool coloring.
I mean, I think that just looks amazing.
It looks like a little tiger or something like that.
ali siddiq
And then you'll see kids with them.
My dog is a pretty cool dog.
But like I say...
If it ever is ever even a concern, like if I even inkling because of those kids, I'm not going to even play with it.
You got to go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
And it's like, you got to go.
I'm not going to feel no type of way about it.
And I'm going to get me a small pool, put it in the backyard.
Because the only reason we don't have a pool is because his ass is back there shitting it up.
joe rogan
Shitting it up.
Yeah, that's why my friend Mark got it.
Got rid of his dog.
He's like, once it bit my hand, he goes, thank God it was me.
You know, he got his hand stitched up.
He's all right.
And then got rid of the dog.
Got it put down.
But he's like, I just didn't trust him anymore.
He's like, he was just too sketchy.
And Mark is not an abusive dog owner.
He's not a mean guy.
He's a very nice guy.
But he was like, fuck this.
ali siddiq
And maybe that's the thing.
The dog is showing dominance.
The person that I got him from, he had him for 25 years.
I always had these type of dogs.
He's like, yo, this dog You got it?
And he doesn't even call it a dog.
He said, this is an animal.
And he's a wild animal.
This is like having a bear in your house.
But it's your bear.
And he's outside.
And that's a thing about him.
I know he can get inside if he wanted to.
Because his head is so hard.
He can just run through something if he wanted to.
He's a big, strong dog.
But If you see the left, like, when I walk out, he immediately goes down, and then depending on how I'm looking, if I'm looking too mean, he'll turn all the way over his back and put his hands up like, I don't want no fucking problems.
Like, hands up, I'm stretched out, all your abusive shit you don't have to do, I've already...
Submit it, sir.
And that's how I hit it.
Because I remember when I first checked him, I hit him in his neck.
Like a mother would do.
I hit him around his neck.
And I pulled him.
I'm like, yo, man.
Listen.
You always gonna be the underling.
Like...
You never gonna be El Capo in this goddamn house.
You never.
joe rogan
Can't let him be.
ali siddiq
And when I'm out with him, he walks different than when he walks with them.
Because I can take him off the leash.
We'll be walking, and he doesn't go anywhere where he know I'm gonna have to say, hey, what you doing?
Right.
With me, it's different.
He's like, what I'm not doing is playing with him.
Because he know I don't love him like everybody else do.
Everybody else would cry if something happened to him.
Not me.
joe rogan
No?
ali siddiq
No.
joe rogan
You wouldn't cry?
ali siddiq
Because he knows I'm going to be the one that's going to kill him if something's going to happen.
He knows it.
He knows, like, this man, he feeds me.
He walks with me miles and miles and all the rest of that.
But he has the capability of killing me if he decides to.
joe rogan
So you have this feeling like you have to have this kind of relationship with that dog?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
See, I'm not interested in having dogs like that.
I've had dogs like that in the past.
I don't do that anymore.
ali siddiq
I would have this type of relationship with a Shih Tzu.
Understand your fucking position.
If you ever decide to bite me or do some shit that's against the order of this house, they're going to be consequences.
joe rogan
Right, but if you have a lab or something like that, you never have to think about that.
They don't do that.
That's why I like those kind of dogs.
When I was younger, I had a lot of pit bulls.
I had a lot of pit bulls.
I had one time, I came home, my pit bull had killed my other dog.
I came home in my living room, there was a blood bath.
ali siddiq
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I had one pit bull, her name was Squeaky Fromm.
I got her from the pound, and she was a scary little dog.
She was a little alligator, like she was all head.
Her head was like that big.
And the rest of her body was like this little short-legged dog.
And she was cool until Stoneman started some shit.
And I had this other dog.
I didn't know back then you could not have two females.
Because two females will never let dominance be established.
Like, a dog who's a male, if a big male dog says, shut the fuck up, the other dog goes, okay, you're the alpha.
Females never accept that.
They don't accept it.
They keep fighting.
They separate them, they fight again.
They separate them, they fight again.
And I left these two at home, and it was my fuck up.
I should have separated them before I left the house.
And I came home, and there was just blood everywhere.
I had this, um...
ali siddiq
Who was still standing?
joe rogan
Squeaky.
She was alive.
She killed that other dog.
It was horrible.
ali siddiq
Sitting in the blood.
Now, listen.
joe rogan
Yeah, she was covered in blood.
She had cuts all over her face, too.
But it was awful.
It was awful.
Yeah, it made me sad.
Because I loved that other dog, too.
It was just like, God damn, you crazy bitch.
ali siddiq
Squeaky was still alive.
One bitch in his house.
That's it!
joe rogan
So I put her down.
ali siddiq
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm like, uh-uh.
I'm not having a dog that kills dogs at my house.
You put her in a position, though.
No, I didn't.
unidentified
She put herself in that position.
joe rogan
It's just I can't have that.
I just can't have that.
That's just too fucked up.
ali siddiq
So if you're okay with a lab, Yeah, they're easy.
joe rogan
They're friendly.
ali siddiq
Do they pee in the house?
joe rogan
All dogs do that until you teach them.
But they don't now.
Like, my dog never shits in the house.
Unless he got diarrhea.
Like, sometimes I don't hear him.
Like, I'm in the bedroom right here.
And by the time I get out to the living room, it's like, what in the morning?
What the fuck is going on?
It's too late.
Just splatter.
Just fucking dookie butt splatter all over the place.
Oh, no!
It's horrible.
And he always shits on carpets, too.
It'll be like some hardwood floor that you can clean up nice and easy.
Nope.
Finds his way to a carpet and just blasts all over the carpet.
It's horrible.
ali siddiq
It's like...
With Haris, I can tell when he has diarrhea.
Because it don't just be one lump.
It's like he done walked the shit all over the back.
Yo, I'm like...
joe rogan
The crazy thing is they're eating the same thing, but with Marshall, it's like every now and then he'll kill something outside and that's usually when he gets diarrhea.
unidentified
Like he'll eat a squirrel or something like that.
Wait a minute.
ali siddiq
This one is nut-ass diarrhea because they Like a hog.
joe rogan
Oh, they burrow with their nose?
ali siddiq
Yes.
So he eat frogs.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ali siddiq
He digs up frogs and he eats them.
You can see him doing it.
And his goddamn stomach after that was...
unidentified
You mentioned Tyree and you could have to eat a fucking frog.
ali siddiq
I thought he ate some shit that was really bad.
Whatever he ate fucked his hair up.
He had a splash in his face and on his back and on his foot.
His hair would just fall out in a circle.
I was like, yeah, you need to eat some bad shit out here fucking around.
And his stool was so loose.
Even when I walked, it was just shit going down the street.
joe rogan
You could just feel what a frog would do.
If you thought about swallowing, chewing, swallowing a frog, what that would do to your asshole, just how it would make its way through your intestines, just He toxin his ass up.
ali siddiq
I know he's just like, every toxin that frog has, he's just released on his ass and shitting it like, yeah, good.
joe rogan
It's funny how all animals, like all those kind of animals that are meat eaters, they all have this desire to kill things.
They all want to kill something small.
Whether it's a bird or a squirrel or a rabbit, they all want to kill shit.
They all do.
They can't help themselves.
ali siddiq
He was about to die.
We was on a walk and My son had ran down this hill.
And when he got up the hill, it was a fucking snake.
It was like bronze on the body.
It was black and he had these spots.
And I know it was poison because his head was in the diamond.
And my daughter was about to run.
And my son said, Snake, Daddy!
And I had to walk right into the shit.
And I stopped my girls.
And I stopped everybody.
But who I can't stop is the fucking crazy ass dog.
So the dog runs up on the snake and he...
So he just...
He want to kill it.
I'm like...
So the snake...
I can see him open his mouth and he looking like he can lunge.
So I took this stick and I hit him so he wouldn't go down.
And...
And he...
He took off.
I say, Hyreese, you almost fucking die.
This snake was gonna bite your ass up.
joe rogan
They don't die.
I've had multiple dogs get bit by rattlesnakes.
They don't die.
ali siddiq
No shit?
joe rogan
No, you take them to the vet and they give them anti-venom.
It's expensive, though.
Anti-venom is fucking expensive.
ali siddiq
That's the whole thing.
He would have died.
joe rogan
But even if you don't give them anti-venom, a lot of times they survive.
ali siddiq
He would have been...
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
You give him, like, Benadryl and shit, I'm telling you.
Like, they don't die.
People die a lot quicker than a dog dies from rattlesnake bites.
They can die, but most of the time they don't.
b-real
I had three dogs bit by rattlesnakes.
ali siddiq
My dog...
I'm not saying he would have died.
It's some things that he's eaten that that motherfucker would have been down.
He'd have just been down, and I thought he was going to die.
I was like, oh, he's dead.
I'm going to wake up tomorrow.
That's probably what would have happened.
He'd have just been in the yard.
unidentified
I'd have heard about what happens is their face swells up.
joe rogan
It looks crazy It's just like like my dog Frankie got bit in his face and his face like drooped out like this like And I had taken him to the vet and I said to the vet I go I think he got bit by a rattlesnake because he had been bit before because he killed his rattlesnake and I'm like I'm Guessing that he got bit and so the vets like I don't see any holes.
I don't see any bite marks So he's examining him probably bit him in the face.
Oh Yeah, so I take him home.
I go, you got lucky, bitch.
And then I look at him like an hour later, and his face is drooping.
I'm like, ah, shit.
And so I had to bring him back to the vet, and the vet's like, yeah, I guess there's like a tiny mark, because we didn't see any mark, but now the way his face was drooping, it was pretty odd.
It was all swollen up and shit, fucked up.
ali siddiq
So, because my dog Burrows, he, the other day, I kind of sweep the dirt back in this little spot, and as I'm sweeping, This thing, what I thought was dirt, I just pushed it, and this fucking spider, big-ass spider, jumps up.
He's looking at me, and he's like, I'm about to kill this big-ass spider.
But he's the size, he's at least the size of a little bit smaller than this coffee cup, like maybe the bottom.
And so I'm beating him with the broom, and here come the dog.
And he's looking at me like, yo, I was going to play with that.
Like...
And I remembered his face being fucked up.
And I'm like, yo ass probably got bit.
Because a spider bite will fuck you up too.
And he had this knot that I just kept squeezing the shit out of it.
joe rogan
Like a zit?
ali siddiq
Yeah, it was probably a spider bite.
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably got bit.
Like recluses, they'll fuck you up.
If you get bit by a brown recluse, they make a fucking hole in your body.
It causes necrosis.
You get people that have giant holes in their body.
ali siddiq
In prison.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They have recluses in prison?
unidentified
Yeah.
ali siddiq
In certain areas, they'll tell you, it's a spider, you get a spider bite.
And you're the first person I ever heard pronounce it like that.
joe rogan
Recluse?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
How do they usually say it?
ali siddiq
Recluse.
joe rogan
Recluse?
ali siddiq
The brown recluse!
joe rogan
That might be right.
ali siddiq
Either way, I knew what you was talking about.
And I was like, damn, that's...
joe rogan
I don't, because I don't think I've ever said it.
I mean, I don't think I've ever heard anybody say it.
I've only, like, read it.
It's one of those words.
ali siddiq
Yeah, so you probably said it right.
joe rogan
Maybe.
unidentified
I'm not sure.
ali siddiq
Because it made a brown recluse.
unidentified
I knew a lot of guys in the Midwest who got bit by those things.
joe rogan
Like, one guy who got bit in the gym, and he had developed a giant fucking hole in his leg.
It was nasty.
They had to fill it up with, like, they had to take gauze and stuff it into the hole.
ali siddiq
Yeah, you had to put an eye down.
I've seen some people who had to go through it.
joe rogan
It's a fucked up spider.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
Just imagine getting bit in prison where they just leave you to yourself.
joe rogan
Is that what they do?
unidentified
They don't give you anything?
ali siddiq
Yeah, you have to tend to it yourself.
joe rogan
They don't give you any antibiotics or anything?
ali siddiq
They give you the galls and shit.
You gotta take the medicine, but you have to dress it.
Keep dressing it yourself.
joe rogan
They don't have prison boxing programs anymore, huh?
ali siddiq
Nah.
I wish they did.
That'd probably help people.
joe rogan
Well, I think it helped people back in the day.
I mean, that's how Sonny Liston became a boxer.
ali siddiq
Yeah, they don't do shit for people in prison.
They don't do shit for you.
Unless you're a fucking rapist or molester.
Then they roll out the red carpet for you to keep you fucking safe from other people.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It is crazy.
Yeah, I think they should do...
Look, first of all, how many people get reformed in prison?
Right?
You just get reformed by the fact that you don't ever want to do it again.
But it's not like...
Is there programs that are trying to rehabilitate you and make you a better person and give you tools to manage your anger?
Is there any of that in there?
ali siddiq
Forcefully or that you can do to pass time?
joe rogan
Due to past time, like, have available to you.
ali siddiq
You can take, um, depending on what unit you own.
They offer different things according to the units.
And depending on your status, too.
Like, if you have anger management, you can't go to the cognitive intervention class.
Which you should be.
You should be the person that's going to the cognitive intervention class.
But you own a...
A side of the prison that's closed custody where y'all wild and shit, they feel like you're not ready to reform yourself because you on that side of the unit.
Then maybe you get on the other side of the unit in a different class and you'll go...
And I went to cognitive intervention class.
I went to classes.
I went to things.
Even when I didn't need them, I still went past the time and learned other shit.
So...
That's what you learn.
You go into places and you go in these counseling groups.
You don't even need the shit.
You go in there and go, oh, this is interesting to listen to.
And then you figure out shit about yourself at the same time in prison.
Most people don't do all that shit.
You got to be a special person who decides you want to change your mentality from the old shit that you used to do.
joe rogan
Don't you think, I mean, like, if they had boxing programs, I think the worry would be that you teach people how to box and they would fuck up the guards or they would fuck each other up, but I think...
ali siddiq
They do that anyway.
joe rogan
They do that anyway.
Right.
But wouldn't it be, like, a good way to at least get out your anger and frustration, give you some discipline, and maybe settle disputes?
ali siddiq
Settle a lot.
That would be the main thing, to settle a lot of disputes.
joe rogan
Yeah, saddle it like a man.
Instead of sneaking up on each other, stabbing each other.
ali siddiq
Or getting a group.
That's the one thing about anything with me.
I don't give you no...
You don't get any credit if you or your friends jumped on somebody.
That's the weakest shit in the world.
Or you snuck up on somebody and hit them.
That's some weak shit.
joe rogan
It's weak shit for sure.
ali siddiq
What's wrong with the fat one?
If you feel like you can win, just orchestrate it.
You know, be a gentleman about this shit.
I don't give a damn if it's 10 paces in turn.
Just do the shit fair where I can respect you for.
I can't respect anybody who, I'ma go get another person and we're gonna come jump on Joe and then Joe Luther and we feel like that's a win.
Yeah, we whooped Joe that.
Like, you did?
Or did you...
It's like being a...
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you, man?
That you can't fight your own battle because you scared to lose?
I learned honor from a pimp in Mississippi when I was a kid.
joe rogan
That's a great start to a story.
unidentified
What did he teach you?
ali siddiq
My Aunt Angelo She used to take me and my cousin, Ricky, to the store, and we would get these ice, you know the little frozen ice, the small ones.
But at this particular store, they had the giant joints, so they were like this big around, and when it was good, we could go get one.
So my aunt, she takes me and my cousin, and we're in Clarksdale, Mississippi, and we go to this store, and we come out, We in the car, and we're in the car, and she hadn't started the car yet.
She was listening to the song, and we eating that shit.
I remember this so like it was yesterday, because he had the green one, and I had the great one.
And I told him I was going to give him half of mine for half of his, just so we both had both flavors.
And as we talking, my aunt said, oh, shit, I knew I should have pulled off.
Now we can't go nowhere.
Because these two pimps We're arguing outside the car.
And we couldn't move because one of the pimps had set his hat on my aunt's car.
She set his hat on the car.
And him and his pimp was arguing.
And he said, man, I told you, don't be on my motherfucking side of the street with your hoes.
I run this area.
And I remember the dude named Bobby.
Bobby said, you don't run the motherfucking thing around here.
You know, you don't tell Bobby where to be, bitch.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
ali siddiq
And it stunned me because I had never heard another man call another man a bitch.
Or like a curse word.
It was all respect, mostly.
And they would call each other other names, but it wouldn't be curse words.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm...
And they fighting behind the side of the street.
And when Bobby took his jacket off, he had a gun.
He had a gun host.
It was like a.38, a.32, whatever that was they was carrying in.
And his friend, he took his gun host off, suit, jacket, hat.
Another dude took his hat and his jacket off.
They got their girls out there, a dude had his partner, and they fought right in the middle of the street.
Bobby got his ass whooped.
Bobby got his ass whooped.
Bobby got his ass whooped out there.
When they was getting shit together, man walked off, he gone.
That dude was out there.
He said, Bobby, you should have popped his ass.
Because he the one that had the gun.
He said, Bobby, you should have popped his ass.
Now I remember this in detail.
Bobby said, he put on this thing.
He said, no!
That motherfucker won fair square.
Put his jacket on and put his hat on and said, shit!
My goddamn nose.
That motherfucker was quick, wasn't it?
And I always remember that story because he had a gun.
He fought that man fair and square.
There was other people out there.
joe rogan
And he gave him his props after he beat him.
ali siddiq
And he lost.
And in his mind, I'm still Bobby.
I'm still me, but I lost that one.
And he beat his fair and square.
Put his gun holster back on.
That's honor.
joe rogan
That's honor.
That's a guy who knows how to take a loss too.
You gotta learn how to take a loss.
The only way you do is you find out.
You gotta find out.
You gotta try to win and fail.
And learn.
ali siddiq
Is that not damn near everything?
joe rogan
Damn near everything.
Damn near everything in life.
ali siddiq
Damn near everything in life.
You gotta try it.
See what it is.
If it don't work out.
But don't even feel bad about this shit not working out.
This is a try.
Man, I'm not good.
I want to try to surf.
I'm probably going to fuck up every time.
But, you know, it's like when I was on a mechanical board.
I would love to actually bull ride.
But that mechanical bull is a motherfucker too.
And I know that some part of my neck ain't prepared for a real animal.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the real animal, they stomp you when you're down.
Fuck that.
The mechanical bull I'll take all day.
Do you know Monty Franklin, the comedian?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
A guy from Australia?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Really into surfing.
And he had a really interesting point the other day.
He was talking about surfing.
He said, kids today are so much better than ever before because of wave pools.
ali siddiq
Yeah.
joe rogan
They go to those wave pools and they get multiple chances at waves because the waves are just always there.
You don't have to sit around and wait, try to catch a wave.
You get wave after wave after wave.
So these kids are wicked, like right out of the gate.
And I was like, oh, that makes sense.
Well, that would be the way to start.
The way to start, if you want to learn how to surf, go to all those fucking wave pools.
Because you just always get a wave.
ali siddiq
Always get a wave.
But when you go to the real thing...
joe rogan
Have you surfed already?
Or are you just thinking about it?
Thinking about it.
Like Laird Hamilton, the guy who made us our coffee, the superfood coffee.
He's the man.
Laird Hamilton, he rides those big crazy waves and did all throughout his career.
ali siddiq
I'm in the stage in life where I want to try everything that I've ever seen.
joe rogan
That looks cool.
ali siddiq
That looks cool.
I think with my kid, because I want my kid to be so well-rounded and I want him to be around other kids.
I don't want my kid to go through the shit that I went through as a kid.
That my family would move around so I would live in other places.
I got different experiences.
But why the fuck y'all feel like I'm lying because you ain't did shit?
Like...
I've done things as a kid, so why the fuck am I lying?
But when you're a kid, you don't experience shit.
You think everybody's a fucking liar because you're not doing it.
I don't work that for my son.
My son...
So he speaks Spanish.
It's...
It's hard for him to be around other kids that don't speak multiple languages.
Because he wanna say shit to you, or talk, or he understands different shit, or his experiences.
To talk to him, and you ask him, what'd you do this summer?
Oh, I was in Spain.
Nah, he's fucking lying.
I was in Spain for two months with my grandmother.
That's what I did.
What did you do over spring break?
Me and my family went to Costa Rica for two weeks.
We were just kicking on the beach.
When you're around kids that don't do shit like that, or you're around kids that don't have these life experiences, then you seem like the fucking outcasts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kids that have more life experiences, like you taking your kid traveling like that, that's giant for them.
It's giant.
See different people, see the way people live in different parts of the world, you know, different foods, different, see just different cities.
Like, I've taken my kids since they were real young.
I've taken them all over the place.
Costa Rica, Mexico, Italy.
We've been to Italy a bunch of times.
Before the pandemic, we were going to Italy every summer.
I wanted them to see.
I wanted them to see the Colosseum.
I wanted them to see Rome.
I wanted them to see the Vatican.
This stuff is a thousand years old.
We're in a thousand-year-old church here.
And the little kids, when they're little and they get a feel of that, I think it adds to just overall the way they perceive life.
They have a broader access to experiences, to different kinds of things.
ali siddiq
Just think how broad Your perspective is on things.
You've been a lot of places, but just imagine hanging around people that have done none of that shit.
And every time you bring up an experience, they're like, here goes Joe with the fabulous shit again.
He's done everything.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
What is Australia like?
unidentified
Joe knows.
ali siddiq
Now you fucking get ridiculed for...
joe rogan
Life experiences.
ali siddiq
And people don't know how significant this is, but I understand it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
Because I had a daughter.
My daughter's 23. She is the...
She's one of the chefs at James Harden Restaurant in Houston, 13. They call her the honey badger.
She's so fucking tough and talks to everybody fucking crazy.
When the security guard called me, the security guy at the thing, he said, man, let me apologize.
I was like, for what?
I should've known somebody who's this small and talks so much shit and tough would've been related to you.
I should've fucking known it.
Like, what's going on?
And he turns the camera.
Is this your daughter?
I'm like, yeah.
It's like, she talks shit to everybody.
In this whole place.
Don't nobody fucking play with her.
It's like, yeah, that's pretty much my daughter.
unidentified
The honey badger?
ali siddiq
They call her the honey badger.
So, she...
I've been a parent for a long time.
She's 23, so...
I remember, and I had this ability to remember being a kid and how my kids were.
I pick my daughter up from school every day.
I took her to school.
My daughter knows that she has a father.
She has been elated about this shit her whole life until middle school, until she gets to the seventh grade.
Under so much pressure of hanging with kids that did not have fathers.
My daughter started to get irritated that I would be there to pick her up because she didn't want her friends to know that she had a father because then that puts her outside the group.
Now you are at this school where you are in the gifted and talented program and you're there because you play the violin quite well.
Your violinist so you're not in the same space.
You're academically inclined.
You speak another language, you're doing this, but then you get to his place and you want to hang with a certain group of kids that don't mirror what you are actually about.
So now to have the father, you're the fucking outcast kid.
So let me try to act like I don't have no father.
Wow!
So, when I mess around and got wind of it, I'm like, so what's the deal here?
unidentified
Like, what's the situation here?
ali siddiq
And I figured out what it was.
There's a peer pressure of this.
So in life, if my daughter would start to dim her light to be around people, I had to think of myself.
Do I do the same thing sometimes?
Sometimes I don't talk about certain experiences because people haven't had those experiences and I don't even want to go into it.
unidentified
Right.
ali siddiq
Or How I visualize things or see things because I'm from a different place.
I'm from an actual different place where certain things don't fly with me.
But you're not going to understand that, so I'm not going to even fucking try to give it to you like this.
I got to give it to you another way, but people don't understand everything.
When you don't want these things for your kids, I don't want my kids to be outcasted, ostracized because they had certain experiences, so I try to give them a balance of, look, this is how people are going to treat you because you're smart.
Don't let people know that you had shit until they revealed.
You don't have to Tell people what you're actually doing.
You don't have to show anybody what you're doing.
Just sit back and let it come to you.
But don't be around people that don't add Or that you can add value to their life.
joe rogan
The problem with kids is when you're in school, you don't have any choice.
If you have a group of kids, you're in school, these are the kids you know, and you don't have any choice.
And if you get in bad relationships in school, bad friendships, they can set you back for a long fucking time.
You get in with the wrong group and the wrong peer pressure and, you know, one fucking wild kid that wants to go break into buildings and shit.
ali siddiq
Boom!
joe rogan
Boom.
I moved out.
When I was a kid, we lived in Jamaica Plain, which was a bad neighborhood.
And we moved from that to Newton, which was a good neighborhood, when I was 14. And I just dodged all that shit.
Because all those kids that I was hanging around with when I was 13, they were all just starting to rob people and break into houses and break into buildings after they were closed.
Those were the kids I was hanging around with.
If my parents hadn't moved me to a nice neighborhood, who the fuck knows what would have happened.
A bad group of friends could change the course of the rest of your fucking life.
When parents see their kid with a bad kid, they're like, God damn it, you're hanging out with that fucking kid.
Because they know that maybe it'll work out.
Maybe it'll turn out okay.
Maybe that kid'll change.
Maybe he'll grow up and get his shit together.
Or maybe he'll ruin your fucking life, too.
ali siddiq
Like, what's the gamble of this shit?
Like, maybe he'll change.
Nah, I don't have time.
It's like with you with the dog baring his fucking teeth.
I'm out.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck that.
ali siddiq
You know, it's...
Why risk it, man?
This is...
With your kids, man.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ali siddiq
I don't even play with teachers when it comes to my kids.
I'm so particular about teachers.
In United States teachers, I get people talking about the pay and all the rest of that shit.
This is the problem.
Our educational system is completely fucked up, and they understand that.
But you only walk out for more money, but you don't walk out for a better curriculum.
That's the thing that teeter-totters would be.
If I give you more money, we still have the same fucked up curriculum.
So what do we rank in the world in education?
joe rogan
It's pretty low.
Compared to the amount of money we have and the amount of freedom we have here.
Yeah.
ali siddiq
So, in Finland, we have more money than Finland.
So, my child goes to the school.
What you get?
20 minutes to eat?
10 minutes to eat?
5 minutes?
What you get to eat?
And what are you eating?
What is the nutrition in the school system?
Like, what is this teaching me?
A school cafeteria doesn't teach you how to act in society when it should.
In Finland, it does.
They sit down.
In Finland, you got a fucking five-star chef back there fixing your food.
In Finland?
But who do you have in...
I mean, you got a lady with a fucking hairnet on that's giving you processed shit.
Whatever that little food place that is delivering the food to the...
It's not even nutritious.
Then you got a teacher who really wants to be something else.
Her fucking acting career failed or singing career failed.
She's not the fucking juggler that she wanted to be or he didn't go to the NBA.
So he's a fucking math teacher.
You know, you got you got a fail.
You got some not saying all teachers.
Some people.
You have too many people in this school system that wanted to be as failed as something else and decided to teach and they fucking fall back.
So in other places, I got to go to school.
To be a teacher, I have to go to school seven more years after I graduate.
Because they got to make sure that you're a person that wants to actually educate our youth.
You're not somebody that's doing something else.
Your whole passion is to educate other individuals.
That's your passion.
And so now you have this person that's teaching your kid in first grade that got a fucking doctor's degree.
It's like going to school and all the greatest people in whatever subject is your kid's teacher.
Now you come home and you have to ask this kid what they learned because there's no homework.
I did all our work at school.
I ain't sending shit home for you to do.
You the parent.
You work all day.
Now I gotta send some shit home for you to do?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
To explain some shit you ain't did in 20 years.
I'm gonna send him home to get the shit explained to by you.
Okay.
When's the last time you done biology?
When?
When's the last time you said, you know, some people can't even break down a fucking fraction right now.
They ain't done it.
unidentified
Right.
ali siddiq
Hey, we need to change this whole number to a fraction.
Change fractions to a whole number.
You're going to have to go get a fucking book and like, let me read this shit.
I don't remember this shit like this.
I don't remember trig like that.
joe rogan
No.
ali siddiq
And I'm a fucking math person.
I'm great at math.
All forms of math.
I don't remember trig like that.
I had to go back and look at trig when my daughter asked me about it.
I'm like, oh shit, let me go back and do a retouch.
Okay, this is going to be this.
But what is the school system about here?
Like, we allow so much shit in the school.
We got so many fucked up, and then they want to go, it's the parents.
It's teach, man, it's...
joe rogan
It's a lot of things.
ali siddiq
It's a lot of things.
It's like...
joe rogan
First of all, it's undervalued.
They don't appreciate it, because if they appreciated it, they would pay them more, and they would also make a better curriculum.
They would develop people, and they would make sure that it's a safe learning environment for people, so they would spend a lot of money.
And if it's a bad neighborhood, they'd spend a lot of money on security, they'd spend a lot of money on counselors, they'd spend a lot of money on getting the best educators, and it would be a valued career.
The problem is what you're saying, like people that take it as a second option, yeah, it's because it's not a valued career in a lot of people's eyes.
But if you did make it a valued career, if it's difficult to get, if it's a job that's hard to get, and you get paid a lot of money to do it, and these are people that are passionate about educating people, then you would change everything.
But you'd have to make it a priority.
And now today, I think, you know, wealthy people, they send their kids to private school, and private schools take a better care of it because of the money that's involved in it.
But it's a mess, man.
Public school systems, you know, I went to all public schools.
It's a mess in this fucking country right now.
It's a mess, especially Los Angeles.
Los Angeles is crazy.
The public school system is a disaster.
ali siddiq
How much time do you actually think kids spend learning in school?
joe rogan
Very little.
ali siddiq
If it's eight hours, you there eight hours, I think they actually learn, they actually, I'll give it 45 minutes of actual teaching time.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
Where they're really paying attention and really learning something.
And how much of it, this is another thing, right?
Even if you teach kids facts and stuff, how much do you teach people about tools that you can use to navigate life?
Like how to think about things.
How to draw your own conclusions.
How to establish your own perspective about something.
And how to look at something in a mindset that empowers you.
Instead of looking at things like, oh, woe is me.
Look at this like, this is an opportunity for growth.
Maybe you failed.
Maybe things didn't go your way.
But now you learn because of that.
And that is ultimately going to get you better.
You just got to trust the process.
They don't teach kids that.
They don't teach kids nothing like that.
ali siddiq
And parents don't...
Standards have gone out the fucking window.
It's like...
And the crazy thing is, I go to a lot of places and get bad service.
Why?
Multiple things.
I'm getting served by people who never had chores growing up.
So you never knew how to complete a task.
Then I grow up, I'm getting served by a person who thinks that their fucking opinion matters about something they don't know about.
I'm getting served by somebody who doesn't want to be here and then you're not trained properly.
So Chick-fil-A, for some reason, besides in D.C., everywhere else Chick-fil-A is fucking fine besides in D.C. It's amazing that the same person that was at Arby's that could not give you fucking good service, that was on the phone when they was taking your order, that was cussing out the back in front of customers, this same person.
Goes to Chick-fil-A and greets you when you come in to Chick-fil-A and take your order.
joe rogan
They're so consistent there.
ali siddiq
What's the difference?
joe rogan
How are they doing that?
ali siddiq
And they pulling from the same pool of people.
joe rogan
Right, same neighborhood.
How the fuck are they doing that?
You know what's also like that?
In-N-Out.
Same shit.
You go to In-N-Out, they're all super friendly.
I know they get paid real well at In-N-Out.
For fast food workers, it's a valuable job.
How do they make it?
ali siddiq
It's like Whole Foods.
It's like Whole Foods.
I don't ever have bad service at Whole Foods.
And I don't ever have bad service at Bucky's.
Right.
Bucky's is fucking insane.
I've never been to a Bucky's and the bathroom was dirty.
Ever.
However, they have somebody that is focused on the bathroom.
joe rogan
That's true.
ali siddiq
They have people that are focused on each section of Bucky's.
I know one thing.
You can't tip the cashier.
Anybody ever tell me they ever tip a cashier and Bucky, they're a fucking lie.
Because they won't accept it.
joe rogan
Really?
ali siddiq
Because they tell you, no, we can't accept the tips.
joe rogan
So even if you just leave it there and walk away, what do they do?
ali siddiq
They're going to tell you to take it.
joe rogan
What if you run out the door?
ali siddiq
They're going to be there when you get back.
Because they make so much money at Bucky's.
They pay them really well.
joe rogan
So you think that's what Chick-fil-A is?
They pay them real well?
Is that what it is?
ali siddiq
And it's a system.
It's a system.
At Chick-fil-A, you can end up owning a Chick-fil-A. The only way you can own a Chick-fil-A is if you work there.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ali siddiq
Yeah.
You gotta go.
To own a Chick-fil-A, you gotta go through the Chick-fil-A. But that man ain't fucking around with his brand.
unidentified
Like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
ali siddiq
And like, I didn't even complain about this Chick-fil-A on 18th Street in D.C. And it was the worst fucking custom service I ever had.
Like, I... I never even got spoke to.
They never asked me anything.
I'm like, yo, this is not a fucking Chick-fil-A. In my mind, I cannot picture this.
They don't know.
And everybody on the thing say, why don't you say something?
Why don't you say something?
You can tweet it.
And I guarantee, without me saying anything, it probably got back to Chick-fil-A people.
That fucking Chick-fil-A in D.C. They probably fixed it.
Because that shit was insane.
I've never been to Chick-fil-A. I used to go to Chick-fil-A when I was having a bad day.
I would go to Chick-fil-A just to brighten my fucking day up to get a lemonade and some fries.
You come in like, hey, how you doing?
joe rogan
I'm like, shh, fucking Chick-fil-A. That's a good point, though, about Chick-fil-A. And if you could apply that to schools.
Like, some schools are great.
You go there, everyone's smiling, the teachers are happy, the students have a better experience, and, you know, they're the same kids.
unidentified
Blindside!
joe rogan
You sent those kids to a terrible place.
ali siddiq
Blindside!
That man, Michael Orr, blindside, fucked up neighborhood, moved his environment, boom.
It's just that simple.
joe rogan
It is that simple.
ali siddiq
If you change...
It's hard to be bad when everybody else in the class is doing good.
joe rogan
Right.
Exactly.
It's hard to have a bad attitude if everybody has a good attitude.
It's a part of the environment.
ali siddiq
That's the thing.
You can't...
When you put somebody in an environment and it's all positive and shit is going well and people care about you and it's so much...
It's hard to be mad and you don't...
Like, what you mad about?
unidentified
Oh shit.
ali siddiq
And all the kids have this too.
It's like being in Canada.
I was in Canada.
And I always carry a knife.
I have a knife.
And I put it in my luggage.
So I'm in Canada and I put my knife back on my waist.
And I'm hanging out with these Canadian guys.
And the dude saw the knife on my waist and he touched me on my shoulder.
He said, are you okay?
I said, yeah, what's up?
unidentified
Why are you carrying a weapon?
ali siddiq
I said, huh?
I said, it's a knife.
Like, somebody, you know, if something happened, you know, I'm going to have a...
And that man looked at me with the whole thing like...
And then he said it.
Like, why would somebody be attacking you?
I'm like, what?
I said, people get attacked all the time.
He's like...
Where?
I said, man, when I live in the U.S., he's like...
He looked at me like, you gotta carry a weapon every day?
unidentified
Wow.
ali siddiq
And I started to think about the shit.
In his mind, me carrying a weapon is like, wow.
How are you living that you would have to carry?
Where do you live that you would have to carry a knife?
Like, what is going on that you would have...
Like, his mind could not wrap...
joe rogan
What part of Canada was this?
ali siddiq
I was in Montreal!
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a pretty sweet neighborhood.
Montreal's pretty nice.
unidentified
I don't think...
joe rogan
I mean, they must have some crime.
unidentified
He...
ali siddiq
The people who get locked up in Montreal are like, you gotta have a mental condition.
Like, you're locked up because you have a mental...
They don't have a high...
joe rogan
Incarceration rate?
ali siddiq
Incarcerate.
Like, nah.
joe rogan
They're so friendly up there.
ali siddiq
To attack...
To be attacked...
This man could not...
And then later on, he extra...
He blew my fucking brain away.
He was like...
Like, I said something about cops.
In his mind, I was like, what?
Like, cops do what?
Like, what are you saying?
Like, cops do what to you?
Like...
So, what is your relationship with cops?
Like, they police officers and that is it.
Like, what is happening with cops?
And you have to think about it, they cops are different.
And they're not living in the same place as you.
They're not living in the same space as you.
They don't have all these things.
To not be seen as a commodity of the country, they don't have that.
The number one commodity of a country is its citizens.
Like, it's the citizens.
It's like the crude oil and all the rest of the shit.
None of that matters if it's not the citizens.
unidentified
Yes.
ali siddiq
Now your mind is gone.
Like, you're fucking out of space now because you live in a country that don't give a fuck about its citizens.
Like, you're not the number one commodity In this country, it's like whoever pulling these strings feel like something else is way more important than your life.
But they live in a place where...
unidentified
Man, I... What?
ali siddiq
Like, the country cares.
Like, the country's not trying to do nothing to me.
Like, why would they?
I got health care.
I don't have to be impoverished here.
Like, what is wrong with y'all?
We don't live in a place where people feel like you are valued because there's certain shit that you wouldn't do.
There's no way in the world that a conscious person would say, these pipes in Flint, Michigan, we are running water through these pipes and this is perfectly fine.
But then let's change and run the water through these corroded ass pipes that we know that's corroded and we know have a problem.
Why would you do that?
Like, what would be the logic in doing that and fucking these people up?
And you know it.
It's not no amount of lead that is okay for your body.
joe rogan
The only reason is they don't give a fuck about the people.
That's it.
It's still bad over there, which is crazy because Obama was drinking that water on TV. Remember that thing?
Can I get a glass of water?
Oh, this is not a stunt.
I just want to have a glass of water.
He goes and takes the water.
Well, it takes the tiniest little Mark Zuckerberg sip.
It's a crazy video because it is a stunt because if it wasn't a stunt, you'd take a real drink.
You'd get it.
All right.
That's not what he did.
He didn't take like a real drink of that water.
That's Obama.
We've already been through Trump, and now we're into Biden, and it's still fucked up.
ali siddiq
They gave the people money.
joe rogan
For bottled water?
ali siddiq
No, they settled the suit.
joe rogan
Oh, settled the lawsuit?
ali siddiq
So, what does that do when I'm fucked up?
joe rogan
Not much.
Depends on how much money you got and whether or not they can fix you.
ali siddiq
Even if you had a bunch of money, the man in fucking Silence of the Lamb, he had a lot of money.
The one who wanted Hannibal.
The old man who ate the face of Hannibal and made him cut his face off.
That one had a lot of money.
He still was very...
A lot of money fucked up.
joe rogan
Doesn't make you happy.
ali siddiq
I'm just looking in the bed and doing all that shit like, yo, you fucked up, man.
It don't matter what happens, you fucked up.
I don't get how people do it to other people.
We live in a country.
joe rogan
It doesn't affect them.
That's how.
They get away with it.
They profit off of it.
It doesn't affect them.
Or they allocate profit and money, rather, to things that will benefit them.
And the people that are poor and the people that don't have a say, they don't put them a priority.
I've always said that the way to make America better is to have less losers.
Best way to have less losers is to take all these economically deprived neighborhoods that are stricken with crime, filled with fucking drug dealers and gang violence and all that, and fix it.
Fix it.
Fix it just like we try to fix other countries, like we try to nation build, we try to overthrow evil dictators and try to rebuild a country.
Fucking do it right here.
ali siddiq
Fix it.
joe rogan
Start with Baltimore.
Let's go.
Start with Southside Chicago.
Start with Detroit.
Go to go to all these places that are fucked.
Go to Flint, Michigan and fix it.
Go to all these places that are fucked up and start working.
ali siddiq
Make me the president for four years and give me free reign on this shit.
And I guarantee The crime level would go down so low.
joe rogan
What would you do?
ali siddiq
We're going to start with molesters and rapists.
joe rogan
Let's start with that.
ali siddiq
First day.
You sentenced.
I already know you're guilty.
Public display of the bullshit.
I got to do it in public.
I want the president to be standing around on TV. Convicted molester here.
Just want to Throw this out there to all the people who may be thinking about molesting and raping people.
You know, who say you got the voices in your head?
She got the voices in your head.
Just want you to hear my voice.
Hear my voice and then hear his voice.
I'm going to get me a real country white boy.
Like the dude who stayed down the street from me.
He drive a F-250 diesel.
He's a country boy.
I'm going to allow him to...
Put a nice little rope around your private area.
Nice little doohickey.
Nice little situation.
And I want the rope to be long.
I want it to start at you.
And just gun that shit.
Just gun it.
Just gun it.
Don't stop.
You just gun it.
And you know that this shit is coming.
You know that this man is about to snatch your whole shit off.
unidentified
Yeah.
ali siddiq
Public.
We'll patch you up right then.
And this is what happens.
This point on, you can't keep your dick.
You gotta go.
Rip that motherfucker from your asshole out, too.
You molest or you rape, you take any type of vagina, a little boy, a little girl that don't belong to you without the conditions and sanctions of that person, this is the type of shit that's gonna happen.
And I'm gonna get wild and wild each motherfucking month, too.
joe rogan
You can't just do that for the president.
They have rules.
ali siddiq
We're not talking about that.
We're talking about you giving me carte blanche.
joe rogan
Okay, you're a dictator.
ali siddiq
We get full carte blanche.
joe rogan
But you're a dictator.
unidentified
Yes!
ali siddiq
For four years.
Four years, then you can have your shit back.
joe rogan
But what are you going to do about bankers?
What are you going to do about corrupt politicians?
What are you going to do about all the people that are...
ali siddiq
All sorts of shit.
So bankers!
Corrupt motherfuckers.
This is how I'm going to be talking to.
Don't think I'm going to be doing any type of presidential shit.
I would like to talk to the bankers.
I'm like, bankers!
Motherfuckers!
I'm coming right there.
Goddamn interest rate.
You won't let people...
Okay, you borrowing money and using my money and shit.
Oh, I'm going to go deep diving on their ass.
Need all...
Oh, and I catch you embezzling and all that shit.
Ah, the type of shit.
joe rogan
Dick off too?
For embezzlers?
ali siddiq
Oh, I might...
It depends.
Depends on how...
Let me tell you something.
If you put in a man's mind that any crime can get his dick snatched out, oh, best believe.
joe rogan
That would change a lot of things.
ali siddiq
Just a mere fact.
Hey, man.
Hey, man, we're going to rob this bank.
unidentified
Hold on.
ali siddiq
Is that a dick-off crime?
Hold on.
I need to be sure.
Mm-mm.
unidentified
Mm-mm.
ali siddiq
That's a dick-off crime.
joe rogan
A dick-off crime?
ali siddiq
Any type of dick-off crimes, I am not going to be involved.
I need some shit that...
joe rogan
You should write this down.
A dick-off crime is a great premise.
ali siddiq
If you get...
Okay, you get that much of your finger cut off, I risk it.
unidentified
But dick-off crime?
ali siddiq
No, no.
unidentified
Anything dick-off, I'm not fucking with it.
ali siddiq
Think about it.
joe rogan
I'm hearing it.
Ali, tell everybody when your special is...
Can you say when it's coming out?
You can't say when it's coming out.
ali siddiq
I'm going to say it's happening.
joe rogan
It's happening.
ali siddiq
HBO. I'm having a special come out on HBO. HBO. HBO. And you'll tell us when it's going to be on.
joe rogan
Come back again when it's out.
I'm going to tell us when it's going to be on.
And we'll let everybody know.
You're a funny motherfucker.
I love your stand-up.
ali siddiq
Thank you.
joe rogan
And I appreciate you coming here.
It was a lot of fun.
And dick off crime is legit.
That's legit.
It's a legit premise.
Oh, tell everybody how to get you on social media, website, all that.
ali siddiq
My social media is Ali Sadiq, A-L-I-S-I-D-D-I-Q. That's all the way across the board.
My website, everything.
I don't even know how to work my goddamn Facebook.
I've been...
I've been deleted or whatever the shit is.
I've been violating so much.
I don't even know.
joe rogan
Terms of service?
unidentified
These folks keep sending me letters on the Instagram.
Your page will be deleted if you don't respond to this.
ali siddiq
I'm like...
I don't even know what to respond to.
Like, yo, man, I'm playing music at...
I'm videoing me at a radio station where I fucking work at.
Like, how am I not gonna...
I'm licensed.
I work for the station.
Which...
Alright, I'm about to go, but that's the point.
The thing is, how do you not get violated on fucking Facebook?
D-Nice can DJ for 16 hours on Instagram, and all of a sudden, I put one fucking clip of somebody singing something in the back.
I'm fucking deleting a violation.
I don't know.
But go on anything, AliSadiq.com or With the at behind it, that's how you find me.
I'm the bald head black one.
Now, he's a little Pakistani Siddiqui running around here.
He does music.
He doesn't do comedy.
joe rogan
His name's Ali Siddiqui, too?
ali siddiq
Yeah, it's probably a million of us.
But you know it's not me, because he has a full beard.
That's how you know it.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
He doesn't have the patches.
ali siddiq
He doesn't have the patches, man.
So, HBO is getting ready.
joe rogan
Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen.
ali siddiq
Stay tuned for the HBO. Yeah, I'm not even saying the name of the special day, but it's going to be a good one.
It's going to be some very interesting...
I think the whole thing is very interesting.
I definitely put a lot of work into getting it together for HBO. Beautiful.
joe rogan
Well, I hope it works out.
Thanks, man.
It was a lot of fun.
ali siddiq
I don't need it.
I was just here.
I've seen...
That's funny.
When they showed me the chart, I don't even know if you ever looked at the chart of listening time that people spend with you versus other things, watching or listening.
That shit is insane.
joe rogan
Yeah, I try not to pay attention.
ali siddiq
Yeah, because everybody else is like a three or two or some shit and toddling and your shit is like 14. I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't pay attention, man.
I think if you pay attention, it'll fuck you up, and then you'll be doing it like hoping to get more numbers.
It's like checking likes on Instagram.
It's like, what's the point?
ali siddiq
Checking likes and followers.
Oh, I got more followers.
Just live life.
joe rogan
You don't get caught up in numbers.
I appreciate you, brother.
ali siddiq
Man, I love coming here.
joe rogan
We're already, this is three and a half hours in.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Believe that?
ali siddiq
Can't believe it.
joe rogan
Time flies in this room.
Appreciate you, man.
I'll see you again when you come out.
We'll let everybody know.
It'll be on HBO, and I'm sure it'll be great.
unidentified
Thank you.
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