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March 1, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1786 - Freddie Gibbs & Brian Moses
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brian moses
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freddie gibbs
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
Salute!
unidentified
Salute!
joe rogan
Welcome, Freddie, Brian Moses.
Good to see you, gentlemen.
Thanks for coming.
How's Texas treating you?
freddie gibbs
Back in this thing.
Oh, shit.
We went to a BYOB strip club last night.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
That's always rough.
freddie gibbs
I'm the BYOB king.
Bring your own bitches.
Bring your own bullets.
Bring your own bullets.
Bullets, for sure.
Bring your own motherfucking bullets.
brian moses
The only thing it was was not bring your own blacks.
They had plenty of that there last night.
Then we showed up.
freddie gibbs
You go to the racist shit.
Jumping it off.
brian moses
This is the last day of white guilt month.
We're going out with a bang.
They're trying to get my man Rogan.
We can't be racist no more.
joe rogan
You can try.
brian moses
Alright.
Can we say nigga?
joe rogan
You can.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
You can.
Well, if I want to say it, I'll just pause and then just fill in the blanks.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Just send it off to me.
freddie gibbs
Just send it off to me, man.
Just send it off to me, Joe.
You can't say that shit, Joe.
unidentified
No.
freddie gibbs
Because you pissed niggas off when you did that compilation.
It was funny as fuck, though.
I can't even lie.
But, you know...
joe rogan
Well, I didn't mean it as a compilation.
freddie gibbs
But they made a compilation.
joe rogan
Oh, I am aware.
freddie gibbs
That shit was crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good.
freddie gibbs
But, hey, man, look, I don't think you're a racist, my nigga.
You my nigga.
joe rogan
I fuck with you.
freddie gibbs
I never thought you was a racist.
I just think you're just saying some shit you should have said.
And a lot of us niggas say some stuff that we shouldn't say sometimes.
It is what it is.
joe rogan
But that's the only word that, like, you can't say no matter what.
freddie gibbs
Nah, you gotta give that to us.
That's the thing I want to tell white people right now.
Y'all just gotta let us have that.
Like, quit trying to...
Just let us have, nigga.
We got it.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's one thing, you know what I mean?
Y'all already human trafficked us over here.
Let us have that.
brian moses
It's the most powerful world...
World?
It's the most powerful word...
Not the English language, just every one of them.
joe rogan
Well, it's the most versatile, too.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
As far as, like, it could either be hateful, coming out of a white person's mouth, or ignorant, or it could be, for a black person, it could be a punchline.
It could be a term of endearment.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It could be many things.
brian moses
Yeah.
It's like what Bernie Mac said about a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Motherfuckers, you know, versatile.
See, niggas are now.
freddie gibbs
It's niggas are now.
The person plays the thing.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a lot of things.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
It's a verb, too.
It's also pound for pound the greatest slur in history, you know?
joe rogan
The problem is there's no real slur that's stuck with white people.
Alonzo had a bit about it.
brian moses
Alonzo Bowden?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
What is it?
joe rogan
I forget how it worked.
freddie gibbs
No slur that stuck with white people?
joe rogan
Honky never really stuck.
freddie gibbs
Honky ain't really.
Honky don't sound good.
unidentified
Cracker.
brian moses
No.
unidentified
Cracker.
brian moses
Nope.
They got another compilation coming now.
Joe's being racist about white people.
joe rogan
I try.
freddie gibbs
I mean, cracker just...
brian moses
Whitey, honky.
freddie gibbs
It don't sound fresh.
You know what I mean?
You can say it, but it just sounds like some shit to old niggas.
brian moses
There's just a lot attached to nigger, though.
freddie gibbs
You said, you put C, there you go.
You transformed the word.
You put the R on it, didn't you?
brian moses
I stuck to land it, bro.
freddie gibbs
That changes shit.
That changes shit when you say that.
Even when black people say it with the hard R, it sounds funny.
joe rogan
What is that word that South Africans have?
They have a word.
It was in Lethal Weapon.
Remember that movie?
brian moses
Yeah, which one?
joe rogan
One of the ones where the evil people were the South African people, the apartheid people.
freddie gibbs
What they call black people?
joe rogan
Africans.
They have a different word.
unidentified
Akata or something like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
Something like that.
freddie gibbs
Like a cotton-picking nigga.
That's what they call American niggas.
brian moses
Bro, Spotify's not airing this episode.
They have to.
freddie gibbs
They got to.
joe rogan
They have to.
freddie gibbs
Hey, fuck Neil Young, man.
Let me say something about Neil Young.
Hey, Neil Young, man, I know you want to get Joe off this motherfucker, right?
But look, my nigga, you pulled your shit off.
But would you have pulled it if it was only the nigga shit?
If you thought Joe was a racist, would you have stood up for niggas?
I think not.
brian moses
No, yeah, Neil didn't say anything when the N-word drop came out.
freddie gibbs
He didn't say nothing about that.
brian moses
He was all about that vaccine and misinformation.
joe rogan
In his defense, that was before.
He did his thing before.
freddie gibbs
Well, he should have doubled back for niggas.
brian moses
Fuck that.
freddie gibbs
Only thing I was mad at you, Joe, man, you fucked up with India R.E., man.
You had a lot of bitches that couldn't put their Shea Butter on when she pulled that motherfucker shit off Spotify.
You fucked up Shea Butter for niggas with India R.E., man.
Shout out to India R.E. Please put your music back up.
We love you, baby girl.
brian moses
I love her, too.
I love her voice.
freddie gibbs
Joe didn't mean this.
joe rogan
And you know what?
I also support what she's saying.
One of the things that she's saying is that why doesn't she get paid well for streams?
It's a predatory business, man.
freddie gibbs
It is.
joe rogan
The music business, the way the record companies own the artists, you could speak to this.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I'm out of this shit.
I'm about to do a podcast, man.
joe rogan
Are you?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, fuck this rap shit.
This podcast shit makes way more motherfucking money than the motherfucking price of the motherfucking stream of some rap shit.
brian moses
Wait a minute, hold on, let's go back to any of that already.
She jumped on your scandal so she could push her own agenda?
joe rogan
I think she was genuinely upset.
freddie gibbs
She had a right to be upset?
joe rogan
Yes, but I also think that she uses it as an opportunity to express her plight.
You know, express herself about her plight, because artists that don't own their music, someone else got your music before, and a lot of them it was before streaming even existed, right?
So they had these contracts where they thought they were selling records, and you'd sell records for a certain amount of time, and then someone else would own the right to the music, but that's fine, you already sold the records, you got your piece or whatever.
freddie gibbs
It's a predatory business.
If you don't know the equation, you're not going to succeed.
Most artists don't know that your rate of debt versus your rate of recoupment.
joe rogan
In terms of how much money they spend promoting you.
freddie gibbs
If a label give you a million dollars, you're only going to recoup that.
If your percentage per se is like 20%, you're only going to recoup that at the 20% rate.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
It just sounds like musical slavery.
freddie gibbs
And then once you recoup that at that 20% rate, so how long would it take you to recoup a million dollars at a 20% rate?
And then once, if you recoup that, You know what I'm saying?
You start gaining at a 20% rate.
joe rogan
Courtney Love broke it down in an article once.
She wrote an article explaining how they do their mathematics, like how they do their accounting.
freddie gibbs
The math and music is fucked up.
joe rogan
The crazy thing is that they kept it going even after streaming came along because the record sales were gone.
And now the way they do it, they have a piece, they make these deals with the artists where they have the piece of your merchandise, they have a piece of your live, Like the live, yes!
The live used to be all the artists.
360. Yeah, but now they got a piece of everything.
Because they had to, because they don't sell records anymore.
So they have the streaming, they have a little piece of this, a little piece of that, they got a piece of everything.
freddie gibbs
Most artists.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Not Freddie Gibbs.
joe rogan
Well, you're popular enough that you can escape.
There's like a thing called escape velocity.
freddie gibbs
But I don't know.
This motherfucker's more popular than me that's fucked.
joe rogan
Yeah, they got stuck in a contract though, right?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it is what it is.
You know what I mean?
It just depends on what level of this game you want to be.
You know what I mean?
I really didn't give a fuck about being super famous as a motherfucking rapper, man.
I wanted to turn a profit, you know what I mean?
And use this to put me in positions to do other things as well, because I'm definitely more versatile than just a rapper, you know?
joe rogan
Well, you have the most important thing for podcasts.
You got authenticity.
freddie gibbs
Definitely.
brian moses
He's a real nigga.
freddie gibbs
Real nigga.
brian moses
We counting the niggas, Spotify?
joe rogan
It doesn't count if you guys say it.
It's clean.
brian moses
It's clean.
joe rogan
We're at zero.
freddie gibbs
Clean bill of health for this motherfucker, man.
We done brought Joe back, man.
brian moses
We done brought Joe back!
Joe, yeah.
The last couple days of Black History, my Joe was like, fuck it.
joe rogan
Not a good month for it.
brian moses
Not a good month for it.
Well, you know, this is my favorite two weeks of the year.
freddie gibbs
I know something you could do.
You could donate some shit, Joe.
joe rogan
What are you going to donate to?
freddie gibbs
To the hood.
Like, I got some little shit you could donate to.
Some hood shit and gear.
You could rebuild a park.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I'd be happy to.
freddie gibbs
See?
There we go.
See?
That's how we make progress, niggas.
unidentified
See?
freddie gibbs
Nigga.
brian moses
People think drug dealers don't give back to the community.
freddie gibbs
That's what I'm saying.
brian moses
But look though, we had conversations with crack and then Joe's gonna build it back up with money.
joe rogan
Well, I've been talking about that forever.
brian moses
It's full circle, motherfucker.
joe rogan
I've been talking about that forever.
It's about time I put my money within my mouth.
freddie gibbs
Let's do it.
I mean, I got some programs you could, you know, We're good to, man.
And niggas will really love that, man.
You know what I'm saying?
And then what can a motherfucker say, man?
brian moses
How come when people are talking about pulling their stuff off Spotify, they didn't say, go put your music on a black platform, streaming platform?
Do they have streaming platforms for black people?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, nigga.
Title.
Jay-Z on one.
brian moses
No, they sold that to Twitter, right?
unidentified
Or Jack Dorsey?
freddie gibbs
I don't know the business of some shit, I guess.
I thought that JJ would, you know, shout out to Jay-Z, he was the first motherfucker to do that, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
What did Kanye do?
He did some crazy thing where you have to buy a player to listen to his music?
brian moses
Genius.
He did the Louis C.K. thing, basically.
You gotta go to my website and buy this shit.
freddie gibbs
You gotta go buy a Walkman to listen to Kanye new shit.
joe rogan
It really is.
unidentified
What is this?
joe rogan
Like, what is this?
Okay, a stem player.
freddie gibbs
Oh, shit.
I thought that was a vibrator.
joe rogan
It looks like one of them containers where a girl keeps the pill.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Doesn't it look like the pill?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, okay, look at this.
brian moses
Or like one of those Simon Says.
joe rogan
Whoa, look at this shit.
unidentified
He probably designed this thing.
freddie gibbs
I think he bought it.
joe rogan
He bought it, but it looks like something he would design.
Wouldn't it look like something Kanye would design?
brian moses
Kanye's in the future, bro.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
He's in another realm, for sure.
unidentified
Nigga, what do you plug into Ox?
jamie vernon
There is an Auxbox port.
freddie gibbs
Oh, it's an Auxbox port over there.
joe rogan
So is there a headphones port?
You have to get separate headphones?
jamie vernon
No, so there's a little port for that.
What you can do here, he's remixing the stems, like there's a vocal stem, bass stem, sample stem, and drums, and you can sort of loop it.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
So you can change like the...
jamie vernon
You can remix it live.
joe rogan
A synthesizer?
He's doing it right there.
freddie gibbs
So you can remix his shit.
brian moses
What?
jamie vernon
You can also remix your own shit there too.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, it's not just a player.
freddie gibbs
This is brilliant.
I'm going to tell you niggas this.
I'm not letting you niggas remix my shit.
The way it come out is the way it come out.
unidentified
I have no stems.
freddie gibbs
None of that motherfucker.
brian moses
You're one of them chefs.
No, no, no.
You can't change the world.
freddie gibbs
No, remix that shit yourself, man.
joe rogan
You can't modify this shit.
I feel you entirely, but I do love a remix.
You know what I love?
Have you ever heard when they put Big E in with the White Album?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
unidentified
Jay-Z and the Beatles, the Grey album.
freddie gibbs
That's the mash-up shit.
joe rogan
But a bunch of people have done these.
R. Kelly is the king of the remix.
But the Jay-Z and the White album, 99 Problems.
Well, they did 99 Problems with Hendrix, too.
Did you ever hear that?
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It's voodoo child mixed with 99 Problems.
It's outstanding.
brian moses
I'm with it.
joe rogan
Let's go.
freddie gibbs
We can't talk about remixes without R. Kelly, man.
He put the R in R&B, man.
brian moses
I thought Puffy created the remix.
freddie gibbs
R. Kelly do some fire remixes, too, man.
brian moses
He do some fire remixes.
freddie gibbs
Did he remix?
Did he remix nigga, too?
brian moses
R. Kelly is a very talented pedophile.
freddie gibbs
Damn, man.
brian moses
Probably the most talented pedophile outside of Woody Allen.
joe rogan
It's hard to tell.
brian moses
Are we ranking him?
joe rogan
I bet some of them have died.
freddie gibbs
Woody Allen's a piece of shit.
joe rogan
And they didn't get caught.
freddie gibbs
Woody Allen's a piece of shit, because he's still out.
brian moses
He's still out.
He's still out there.
freddie gibbs
That's bullshit.
Somebody need to head up a Burris, that nigga, like they did Cosby.
brian moses
They've been trying, bro, but you know.
freddie gibbs
That nigga fucked his stepdaughter.
brian moses
So didn't Jerry Lee Lewis do that too?
joe rogan
I'm so glad I'm not the one talking about this.
freddie gibbs
That's some sick shit.
joe rogan
No, Jerry Lee Lewis married like a cousin, I think.
freddie gibbs
Damn, well.
joe rogan
Is that what it was?
freddie gibbs
A cousin.
Well, damn.
joe rogan
That's the least of his problems.
There's some other stuff that he did.
brian moses
That's the least of his problems.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't want to speak out of turn because I don't know exactly what's real and what's not.
brian moses
There's too many compilations.
jamie vernon
13-year-old cousin.
joe rogan
He had a 13-year-old cousin.
He married her.
Yo.
A tabloid sensation at the time tarnished Lewis's reputation and did some damage to his career.
So in 1958...
In some parts of the country, you could still marry a 13 year old.
That's what we're learning.
Like, that's how crazy the world has changed in a short amount of time.
brian moses
Damn.
joe rogan
That since 1958, he thought it was totally normal to marry a 13-year-old while he was famous.
freddie gibbs
I think in some of these states, like the legal age of consent is still like teen shit.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
freddie gibbs
There's some country monkey breadneck shit going on in this motherfucker.
joe rogan
Let's take a guess.
Let's take a guess.
What do you think the youngest age of consent in this country is?
Let's just take a guess.
16. 16?
brian moses
14, I think, in some states.
joe rogan
I bet it's different for boys.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
I bet there's an age consent for boys that's younger than that.
freddie gibbs
Oh, no.
joe rogan
I think there is.
Look up the age of consent for boys in New Mexico.
freddie gibbs
Oh, shit.
brian moses
For having sex, you're saying?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
brian moses
Okay, to have sex, okay.
To have consensual sex.
joe rogan
I think there was some wacky laws that they made back in the day, and it could have been something to do with famous, important people that had something to do with fucking kids.
brian moses
Why is that a thing?
It is a thing.
joe rogan
It is a thing.
It's a terrible taboo that everyone scared is real.
I don't know what's real.
It says it's legal for an adult, someone 18...
Oh, it's illegal for someone 18-year-old to have sex with a minor, someone younger than 16. Okay, so 16 is the age.
freddie gibbs
I hit it on the head.
joe rogan
Did it used to be younger?
jamie vernon
There's something here where it says, yeah, 13 to 16, but depending on how much older the other person was.
joe rogan
Okay, anyone between the age of 13 and 16 can consent with a sex with a person who is no more than four years their senior.
Well, that's kind of normal.
jamie vernon
It's like high school.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, 16 to 20 is a little weird, but like 13 to 17, eh, that's a little weird, too.
brian moses
I mean, basically, we're talking about euphoria, right?
Because that's like, you know, high schoolers having sex.
joe rogan
I didn't watch that.
brian moses
Is that good?
freddie gibbs
I was watching that shit last night.
I was like, damn.
joe rogan
Is it good?
brian moses
Is it crazy?
freddie gibbs
Some good shit.
joe rogan
What is it about?
freddie gibbs
Just some high school shit, motherfuckers doing dope, fucking, you know, shit like that.
joe rogan
Remember that movie Kids?
brian moses
Exactly.
I feel like I've heard it's like that.
freddie gibbs
It's in that realm.
I like it.
It's dope.
brian moses
Kids the musical.
freddie gibbs
It's amazing.
joe rogan
It's a weird choice for a show to make.
brian moses
What?
High school just fucking?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
And doing drugs?
joe rogan
I mean...
brian moses
I mean, what are you doing in high school, you know?
joe rogan
I mean, they do do it.
freddie gibbs
There's grown motherfuckers playing the roles.
brian moses
I remember being in junior high, I saw a girl, she snorted crystal meth at the playground.
joe rogan
Oh my god, in high school?
brian moses
Drugs are a thing, but I'm from the high desert.
joe rogan
Dude, I've been watching this YouTube series.
freddie gibbs
That's like white high school shit, man.
brian moses
Yeah, it was Mexican.
freddie gibbs
Like, we was just smoking some weed and drinking some drink in the bathroom with Gary.
We wasn't dead.
Niggas in my high school wasn't snortin' no goddamn point.
brian moses
I didn't really have a lot of niggas in my high school.
joe rogan
That's like heavy pill community when you start smoking crystal meth at school.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got no guidance.
brian moses
It's a desolate area.
joe rogan
You got no guidance.
I've been watching this YouTube series.
It's called Soft White Underbelly.
Have you heard of it?
brian moses
No.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Dude, I'm telling you, it's fucking crazy.
It's a great YouTube channel, and one of the things it has on it is this inbred family from the Appalachian Mountains.
Dude, it's the craziest shit.
This one guy barks like a dog.
brian moses
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, this was a guy who's a mountain man.
They had him up there.
But he also, he interviews gambling addicts.
He interviews people that are hooked on crystal meth.
He interviewed a few meth heads, a skinhead.
He interviewed a con man.
I've watched like 10 of them over the last week.
The guy's great.
brian moses
They out there.
unidentified
He just lets these people express themselves.
joe rogan
Where's the dental plan?
Appalachians, they don't have a dental plan.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
They don't even have toothbrushes.
Guys, when that guy was growing up, I bet they had no toothbrushes.
brian moses
He has three teeth.
freddie gibbs
Aren't they like coal miners and shit out there?
joe rogan
In some areas, yeah.
I mean, in some areas, there's parts of Appalachia that are like gentrified now, or they have like regular houses and normal people, and it's like a...
Like a normal city, but there's parts of Appalachia that don't have any electricity, you know, they live, you know, very far away from a lot of society and there's a history of drug abuse up there unfortunately and deep poverty and this guy interviewed quite a few of these people and he interviewed this one family that was inbred and he interviewed this one guy who Basically, he was just talking about like we weren't poor because we had everything we needed.
We could live off the land.
We hunted for our food.
We fished.
But it's like he's living a subsistence lifestyle.
That was the guy with the mountain man with three teeth.
It's interesting shit, man.
brian moses
I think he lost the teeth from the drugs.
I don't know if it's necessarily just doing the...
joe rogan
It might have been, but I don't think so.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm looking at him.
It's hard to tell, though, man.
It's hard to tell, like, who's doing meth.
But there's...
Have you ever seen the wonderful whites of West Virginia?
brian moses
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Something like that.
Yeah.
Well, those people...
That part of the country is just obsessed with pills or just infested with pills.
brian moses
It's horrible.
freddie gibbs
I don't even like driving through there on tour.
I'd be like, fuck this shit.
I'm catching a plane.
It's scary as shit, man.
unidentified
Yeah, they still might lynch you.
joe rogan
Those people just got a shitty roll of the dice, man.
That's where you grew up.
You just got a bum roll of the dice.
Until we realized that as Americans, that not everybody started in the same spot, we're never going to fix anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We gotta realize, all this pull you up by your bootstrap shit, where the fuck were your bootstraps?
Where were they?
Were your bootstraps in a gang-infested neighborhood?
Were your bootstraps in a trailer park in Appalachia?
Where the fuck were your bootstraps?
freddie gibbs
You got no goddamn boots.
joe rogan
You might have been in Connecticut, bitch.
unidentified
You might have grew up in New Haven, Connecticut.
brian moses
That's the first time I came on here talking about that.
It's all about education.
Just feed them a book, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, it's also about the culture you're growing up in, you know, and how safe you are, how safe you are to even explore ideas.
You might just be trying to survive.
You're living in the Appalachian, your fucking parents are on pills, and they punch you every time you try to eat food.
I mean, what the fuck?
That's a little kid out there that's probably having...
He's probably having that experience right now.
brian moses
It could be a cultural thing if we're really getting into it, though, right?
Because not every...
Faction of people are like that, right?
We're talking about people in the inner city, like gang culture.
That's a culture of gang violence.
They're growing up in that, right?
But if you look at, let's say, maybe a Jewish neighborhood, right?
They're not punching their kids, you know what I mean?
Losing the teeth, doing the drugs kind of a thing.
They don't have a bunch of gangs running around kind of a thing.
Italian neighborhoods, right?
You don't really see all that kind of stuff.
So I'm saying it really does take a village.
freddie gibbs
What do you mean they ain't got no gang?
They got the mafia.
brian moses
Yeah, but are they running around killing, you know?
joe rogan
They used to be.
The FBI kind of obliterated them.
brian moses
So that helped the community more?
I mean, why isn't it helping us?
joe rogan
It's a good point.
That's a good point.
You know, one of the things I always say, it's like, if you want to make America great again, or you want to make America better, you gotta have less losers.
What's the way to have less losers?
Give people a chance to succeed.
So you look at the people who have the worst chances of succeeding.
It's people that grow up in crime-infested, drug-infested, gang-infested neighborhoods.
Because everywhere around you is terrible examples, and mostly what people do is we imitate our atmosphere.
And when your atmosphere is filled with terrible examples of crime, drugs, gang violence, all kinds of violence, it's casual murder.
You know, that's people in parts of this country.
freddie gibbs
But that comes from lack of opportunity, though.
joe rogan
It does.
It also comes from lack of attention.
Like, if you looked at the United States as an organism, right?
And you said, oh, well, the organism has these spots that are sick.
Very, very obvious spots.
You know, South Side of Chicago, Detroit.
Look at these spots.
Some of them you understand.
How did this happen?
Oh, Detroit, they took the fucking car manufacturing business, and they moved it to another place, and these people didn't have jobs, and they were fucked, and they were stuck there, and they didn't have enough money to leave, they just shut everything down.
So you get rampant.
You could buy a house in Detroit for like a thousand dollars.
It's crazy.
freddie gibbs
That is in Gary.
joe rogan
I'm not bullshitting.
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
Same thing in Gary with the steel industry.
joe rogan
Exactly.
freddie gibbs
And then I just looked at some stuff the other day.
It was like the steel industry shrunk.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
And it's shrinking even more now.
It's like 43% of the steel last year was imported.
joe rogan
Isn't the water in Flint, Michigan still fucked up?
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah.
brian moses
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Is that real?
freddie gibbs
Motherfucker water looks like this goddamn...
joe rogan
What's going on with the water in Flint, Michigan?
Is it still fucked up?
brian moses
Oh, that Flint water.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Remember when Obama drank it on the air?
joe rogan
I'm gonna drink this water.
It's not a stunt.
He had the most baby sip of this water.
brian moses
Right.
Because he didn't want to die.
freddie gibbs
Nah, he didn't want to die.
It was a black nigga that came with a truck and was making clean water out there, motherfucker, and they shut his shit down.
brian moses
He was making clean water and they shut it down?
joe rogan
Like a filter system?
freddie gibbs
You can Google that shit, man.
Oh, he probably didn't have a permit.
joe rogan
Why did Obama drink like that?
If you're going to have a glass of some bullshit water, take a fucking sip.
brian moses
It wasn't the same thing with Bush when he ate in China and he threw up because it was like, it was poisoned or something like that?
Who?
H.W. Bush?
joe rogan
What happened with him?
brian moses
Oh, he threw up.
joe rogan
He threw up in someone's lap or some shit, right?
unidentified
Right.
brian moses
And he didn't eat much.
You know, I don't even know the story.
joe rogan
He might have just been old and tired.
brian moses
At that point?
unidentified
No, but that...
joe rogan
And just ate some food and threw up.
brian moses
Yeah, the joy...
Yeah, there we go.
joe rogan
Yeah, the fucking...
Oh my God, he fainted after vomiting in the guy's lap.
Gastroentonitis.
freddie gibbs
I'm sorry.
Gastroentonitis.
joe rogan
Yeah, gastro...
Okay, so he had...
brian moses
So it wasn't...
joe rogan
Well, that's what gastro...
brian moses
There was a person who was poisoned, though.
It wasn't ours.
joe rogan
What does gastroentonitis mean?
Is that food poisoning?
jamie vernon
I had stomachache.
joe rogan
Stomachache.
freddie gibbs
Oh, stomachache.
Oh, he had the shits.
He ain't had nothing but the bubble guts.
joe rogan
And he fell asleep.
He blacked out.
freddie gibbs
What'd he eat?
Some sushi?
brian moses
I mean, it's just the most disrespectful shit.
freddie gibbs
Oh, I knew it, man.
Sushi.
joe rogan
You know, if he wasn't a World War II veteran, I'd be like, listen, you can't be present anymore if you keep fainting.
He just blacked out and threw up in the dude's lap!
brian moses
That's crazy!
So I remember at the time they said they thought they did this on purpose, the Chinese delegation or whatever.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Well, you know what, man?
unidentified
I think that job...
joe rogan
I think that job wrecks people, man.
I think that job wrecks people.
I think the amount of attention that you get when you're working that job is probably off the charts.
You probably can't sleep.
Look at Obama's hair went gray almost immediately.
freddie gibbs
Trump looked better.
brian moses
Trump looked better.
joe rogan
Dude, Trump skated through it.
He skated through it.
brian moses
Trump didn't age at all.
joe rogan
It was just taking Adderall and riding the wave.
If I had to guess, I think Trump's one of those dudes where he doesn't do drugs unless the doctor prescribes it.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's a part of our parents' era where like, I don't do drugs!
Meanwhile, they're on Xanax.
Like, hey, what the fuck are you talking about?
brian moses
You're on a crazy drug!
joe rogan
That's a crazy drug!
And you're drinking!
Yeah, you're drinking and you do Xanax.
You tell them you don't do drugs?
How convenient!
brian moses
Popping perks, right?
joe rogan
That's what drives me crazy, is when they're mad at weed smokers.
Like, we are the only ones The only ones.
That when we're high, we're nicer.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
We're the only ones.
When I'm high, I'm so friendly.
I want to hug everybody.
I'm never angry when I'm high.
brian moses
Yeah, exactly.
You don't care about that shit.
joe rogan
I just want camaraderie and friendship and love.
And that's an illegal drug?
unidentified
Right.
And the fucking people that are drinking and popping Xanax, they're upset at you?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Weed brings us together.
freddie gibbs
Definitely does.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But there's a lot of things that weed also highlights that make you super uncomfortable.
You know, people get high and they get paranoid as fuck, but I think it's because you should be.
There's a fucking war going on right now.
There's a crazy war going on right now in Russia.
Excuse me, in Ukraine.
I've been I spent the last day and a half watching videos on it trying to figure out what the fuck is going on and it's Complicated it's really complicated, but what it seems is that Russia is worried that Ukraine has massive reserves of oil and of gas and so Russia took over Crimea and Crimea It denies them access to a lot of their coastline when Russia did that And then Ukraine was apparently,
they were trying to, or at least in talks, to join NATO. I'm sorry if I fuck any of this up, because I'm just remembering what I read, and what I watched in videos.
But what they're essentially saying is that Crimea and Ukraine, like, they want that for the natural resources, and also because if that was NATO-owned, if they were a part of NATO, rather, then they could park missiles.
In Ukraine and pointing towards Russia.
It's wild shit.
brian moses
That's what I was reading, basically.
joe rogan
They used to all be in the same country.
brian moses
Not that long ago.
They were all part of the Soviet Union.
NATO and Russia obviously don't get along, so it's like, yeah, if there's a sovereign nation being like, hey, like flirting with NATO, they're like, no, I don't want your military bases here.
joe rogan
It's obviously horrific.
That's going to create World War III. It's obviously horrific.
I'm not in any way saying that I'm on the side of the Russians in any way.
I'm definitely not.
But what I'm saying is this is what's going on.
I'm just trying to relay the information as I know it as what the conflict is without a judgment.
I'm not making any judgment.
I see all these people making these judgments on whether or not this is a good war, a bad war, and I'm like, man, how much do we know?
How much time has anybody spent studying Ukraine, Russia?
brian moses
No such thing as good war.
joe rogan
No such thing.
brian moses
You know what I mean?
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Missiles, they're firing into apartment buildings.
Like, there's no way those are the good guys.
You shoot a missile in a fucking apartment building, like, what the fuck is happening?
brian moses
If you're not valuing life, you can't be a good person.
freddie gibbs
Shit, the U.S. do it all the time.
joe rogan
That's the point!
This is what I was gonna get to.
Somebody put a chart up, which is wild, of all of the airstrikes that happened over the last, like, 48 hours.
They're constantly going on!
These airstrikes, and the wild thing is the drone move.
The drone move is like, you can be in war and you're not even really there.
Like, you don't even have to have a reason to enter a country.
And you could launch missiles from robots.
And you could be in Nevada, bro, with an Xbox controller.
freddie gibbs
Controlling it.
brian moses
Just murdering people.
joe rogan
Well, if you're smart, you've played video games against someone who really knows how to use one of those fucking controllers.
If you had a guy and he really knew his shit, wouldn't you recruit him to work for the fucking army?
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, yeah.
brian moses
I've also been saying this about, like, peeping Toms.
Get you a drone, bro.
unidentified
Ah!
brian moses
Stay in your mom's basement.
You know what I mean?
Don't go in the trees and the bushes.
joe rogan
Don't go giving them any ideas.
brian moses
My bad.
joe rogan
But for real, if they can make a drone that would respond the same way an Xbox controller would respond, who is going to beat Americans?
brian moses
Nobody.
joe rogan
We just have robot wars.
brian moses
We have the best.
Exactly.
joe rogan
But actually, who's the best at Xbox?
Is there one country, Jamie?
You would know this.
Is there one country that dominates at Call of Duty?
brian moses
I think it's Korea.
joe rogan
Oh, they dominate a lot of video games.
Korea dominates a lot.
brian moses
It's like those E-leagues, right?
I think those kids kill it.
joe rogan
They felt stadiums over there.
freddie gibbs
They do.
unidentified
Stadiums.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
With people playing video games.
Like, they did it with StarCraft and...
What country kicks the most ass at video games?
jamie vernon
Hard to say the game.
joe rogan
Okay, let's go Call of Duty.
jamie vernon
It's mostly an American-based game, but they're playing it in every country, and there's people that cheat in every country, so you couldn't cheat when you're doing drone strikes and stuff.
joe rogan
Of course you could.
That's the thing.
That would be perfect.
jamie vernon
You could, but that's not cheating.
That's just drone striking.
That's not cheating.
That's just using all advantages.
brian moses
Tell them to the war in the metaverse.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
The thing is, if you can get a person to do it, there are dudes that are so goddamn good with those controllers.
They play so many video games.
All they would have to do is make a video game sort of interface where the guy is watching the drone, the drone looks like it's in a video game, and he would never miss.
freddie gibbs
Never.
brian moses
Hell no.
joe rogan
Just be lighting people up.
freddie gibbs
They already got that shit.
brian moses
What?
I'm sure they do.
freddie gibbs
That's just the shit he talking about.
brian moses
I'm sure they do, right?
I mean, we have propaganda for it.
Then we have, like, ads about, like, you know, join the army, you can do this kind of a thing.
unidentified
Play video games and kill people.
joe rogan
The more I pay attention, the more I think these UFO sightings, a lot of these UFO sightings are military aircraft they're developing.
The more I think about it, the more I think about how willing they are to talk about it, they're willing to talk about the fact that, you know, that there are these ships that they can't track and they're moving at insane rates of speed.
They're willing to talk about it.
It's like one of two things.
Either it's aliens or they've developed some kind of crazy technology, some anti-gravitational technology.
freddie gibbs
I think it's aliens.
joe rogan
It could be.
But it might not be.
That's the thing.
We can develop a lot of shit.
We can develop nuclear power.
We can develop nuclear missiles, hypersonic jets, jets that go faster than the speed of sound, spaceships.
We can develop a lot of shit.
If they could just figure out a way to develop something that distorts gravity.
You know because this has always been the thought of it like a thing that can distort gravity can act instead of like a like Bob Lazar talked about this when he talked about back-engineering UFOs instead of like blowing fire out of the back of a rocket There's something that just distorts gravity can go to a place almost instantaneously.
brian moses
Yo, we need that.
joe rogan
They're gonna figure that out man.
brian moses
Because is airplanes air travels weak right now It'll be instantaneous.
What's up with the defense of humans versus humans, though?
I mean, like, I know it's human nature, but maybe it's an earthling thing even, but we spend so much money and so much brainpower on just, like, defending each other from each other.
joe rogan
I mean, what's the point?
Very rarely individually.
The thing is, it's almost all in groups.
We're fucked because our heritage, all of our ancestors, came from these small groups of people that huddled up together to stay alive, and everybody outside of our group was the enemy.
So we all have this programming that sucks, and this programming is based on ancient history.
It's based on a time where there was no internet, there was no international travel, there was no...
Everywhere you went, if a boat showed up on your shore, those were murderers.
That was like eight times out of ten.
They would let you know they had a flag with a skull on it.
Bro, they had a flag with a fucking skull on it.
All over North America.
There's Captain Cooks, all that shit.
Those are bad motherfuckers.
They would show up.
If someone showed up, if it was like Christopher Columbus, if he showed up, if you knew what the fuck was gonna happen, you would have grabbed everybody and ran for the hills.
You would have never stayed near those crazy fucks.
First of all, the diseases.
Second of all, the brutality.
I was reading this thing about Columbus where they were talking about Columbus hacked off people's arms, like not him himself, but his people.
There was a preacher that came with them, and they would tell these people, because the people brought them gold as gifts, and they said, you've got to bring back your weight in gold.
And when they didn't, they would just hack off one of their arms and send them back out there to get gold.
It's crazy.
See if you can find it.
A priest wrote about it in his journal.
brian moses
That's our American hero, Christopher Columbus.
joe rogan
The whole team of them were sociopaths and murderers.
freddie gibbs
He did that to the Native Americans?
unidentified
Yes.
freddie gibbs
You piece of shit, Christopher Columbus.
brian moses
So you're like a cartel, basically.
joe rogan
That's the most brutal, but not even the worst of it.
The worst of it was the diseases.
Now they think that's what killed off the Mayans.
That's what killed off 90% of the Native Americans.
That's that COVID. It was their COVID. It was smallpox and all kinds of diseases they brought with them from Europe.
They killed everybody in the Amazon.
Dude, they're finding civilizations in the Amazon that housed millions of people.
And they're finding them through this thing called Lidar, where they fly over in jets because the jungle's overtaken all these cities.
So there used to be cities of millions of people in the Amazon.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
And the Europeans showed up.
And they just got them sick and everybody died.
And when people came back to look for these cities, like 50 years later, they were gone.
Just like Detroit's almost gone.
Detroit's got houses where trees are growing in the middle of them.
But this is even crazier because it's in the middle of the jungle, so it's happening quicker.
freddie gibbs
Right.
brian moses
Yo, okay.
Europeans just came over and just murked everybody?
joe rogan
Murked everybody.
Murked everybody with their cooties.
Europeans came over here with their cooties.
freddie gibbs
They put smallpox on blankets.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That's a myth, man.
freddie gibbs
That's a myth?
joe rogan
Yeah, most likely.
freddie gibbs
Most likely.
joe rogan
I heard about that, too, and I looked into it.
They don't think they isolated smallpox that way.
They don't think they understood it that way.
brian moses
I was going to say, that'd be pretty fucking genius.
joe rogan
It would be.
freddie gibbs
But they made COVID for sure.
joe rogan
The thing is, they probably did that.
brian moses
Because it's airborne, so yeah, they were just getting the shit.
joe rogan
Everybody was getting it.
And it killed 90% of the Native Americans.
90% of them, man.
I mean, you think about a disease that kills 9 out of 10 people, and it just swept through the entire continent.
And, you know, all the Mayans, they were trying to figure out, where the fuck did these people go?
They made Chichen Itza, which is, have you ever been down there?
brian moses
No.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, I went down there.
It's wild.
You walk amongst this place, you're like, what is this?
How did they do this?
They did this, like, a thousand plus years ago?
Like, what is this?
What the fuck is this?
It's all lined to the different constellations.
They have a room that they have set up just to do psychedelic drugs in.
brian moses
Yo!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, we had a guy who was a guide, who was a professor, this really interesting guy.
We hired this Mexican gentleman who knew everything about the Mayans, and he spoke fluent English and Spanish, so we'd explain it to you in Spanish, explain it to you in English, and he said this was a whole area where they'd take these leaves that contained lysergic acid, which is like LSD, and he was explaining this to me, and he didn't even know that I liked to do drugs.
Right.
He was just telling me like I'm like a civilian.
And I'm like, okay, keep talking.
I'm like, I knew it!
I fucking knew it!
They had to be doing something.
brian moses
They were so much more advanced.
All the ingenuity and all that.
I mean, I'll say this about...
I mean, you're saying Europeans came over and did this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
You know, we weren't alive for World War II, but this conflict is the first time I've seen...
White people fight white people.
unidentified
Right.
brian moses
You know what I mean?
Like, this is kind of...
I feel like this may change some things in the history books.
freddie gibbs
What are you talking about with the Russia shit?
Yeah.
brian moses
Russia and the Ukraine.
Like, I've never seen this.
You know?
It's always us and, you know, the Middle East or something like that.
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
brian moses
But now this is like...
freddie gibbs
It is a new kind of thing.
brian moses
I've never...
This is in the history books.
We'll see that.
So I think there's a There's a progression in a way I think people will see like, oh, it's not just these guys are evil, white people can be evil too.
joe rogan
It's a human thing where people can get to a certain place where they have a certain amount of power and they want to hold on to it and they do evil shit.
It's a human thing.
brian moses
Ukraine is hard though.
And they got the boxers in there.
joe rogan
They got Vitaly Klitschko, Vladimir Klitschko, and Lomachenko, and Usyk.
Usyk is there too.
They're all armed to the teeth.
brian moses
And all the ladies out there, all the volunteers, hard, bro.
joe rogan
Isn't Miss Ukraine in there?
Like Miss Universe?
Wasn't she like a Miss Universe contestant?
jamie vernon
I saw a picture that they said that was an airsoft gun.
joe rogan
Oh, they lied.
This is the problem.
There's so much lies.
freddie gibbs
They got a politician bitch I seen with the motherfucking AK-47.
Hey, Nancy Pelosi would never have an AK-47 as far as he was going motherfucking out.
brian moses
Not a chance.
Not a chance.
Would Biden?
Would Trump?
Would Obama?
joe rogan
They got me with a parody.
They showed Steven Seagal.
It was like somebody made a parody of a CNN article that said Steven Seagal is in Ukraine.
And I was like, oh my God, if this is real.
And I lazily looked for like five minutes and then I couldn't find if it was fake or real.
And I just posted it and saying that we're about 14 hours from the aliens landing.
And people were like, why did you believe it's real?
I'll tell you why.
Steven Seagal was listed as a threat to the fucking nation of Ukraine in 2017. They won't let him in the country.
He's banned, yeah.
Yeah, he's a threat to national security.
Steven Seagal, above the law, the actor.
Look at my Instagram page.
Look at my Instagram page.
Washington Post story from fucking 2017. It's a legit news source.
He was labeled a threat to national security.
Above the law.
brian moses
That guy.
He is, though.
joe rogan
In Ukraine.
So when I saw that he was in Ukraine, it was a parody, I was like, I can believe that.
I can't believe that.
Have you seen it?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to find the link.
joe rogan
Just write Steven Seagal banned from Ukraine 2017. Sounds like a movie plot.
jamie vernon
There we go.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is it.
Ukraine banned Steven Seagal's threat to national security.
Bro, what the fuck?
freddie gibbs
That nigga fat as fuck.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
freddie gibbs
Can he still fight like that?
joe rogan
What he does is a thing called Aikido, and it's a very unusual martial art in that it's really designed for samurais to fight someone with a sword.
So if you lose your sword in combat, this is the origins of it.
If you lose your sword and you come after a dude who knows Aikido, he tries to transfer the energy of your attack Like inertia?
And throw you.
Just like throws and trips and a lot of clothesline stuff.
And Steven Seagal adopted it to movies and made it very fun.
freddie gibbs
Because it did seem like a lot of motherfuckers that was fighting him was like running into him and just getting fucked up.
joe rogan
Of course.
But that was a move.
A lot of their stuff is choreographed, unfortunately, but there is some legitimacy to some of their movements.
There's some legitimacy to these wrist locks and controlling arms and throwing people.
The problem is it won't work on someone who's like a really good wrestler.
It's like one of those things we get really good at and be an expert at it, but you still won't be as good as an expert at another martial art.
This is Steven Seagal.
Steven Seagal was a legit Aikido black belt.
But look at this.
Look at this guy's attack and he's just throwing him to the ground.
Let me tell you something.
If Daniel Cormier shot in on that dude and got a hold of his legs...
brian moses
He'd crush him.
joe rogan
He'd hoist him up in the air and drop him on his head.
100% of the time.
The difference between what he's doing, and he's a master at Aikido...
brian moses
I mean, he really is.
joe rogan
He's a master.
But the difference is, it's not as good or it's not as effective a martial art as wrestling.
Or as judo or as jujitsu.
It's an interesting martial art.
But when it comes to like being able to take people down, nobody can fuck with judo.
When it comes to like with the gi grabbing sleeves and throwing.
And when it comes to like taking people down, you know, just double legs and single legs, no one can fuck with wrestlers.
So you have no one can fuck with the throws of judo guys.
No one can fuck with the takedowns of wrestlers versus this.
It's not a bad thing to learn.
It's interesting.
It's good for your health.
You get some exercise in.
brian moses
I mean, sure, but yeah, that looked crazy.
Come on now.
unidentified
That shit didn't look like shit.
brian moses
I would have ran up on that dude and fucked his ass up.
Now show somebody getting jumped into a gang.
Let's see somebody getting jumped.
joe rogan
But let me tell you something.
He does know how to strike a little bit.
freddie gibbs
Okay, damn.
joe rogan
He does.
Steven Seagal does.
Like, no bullshit.
He knows how to...
There's a lot of it that's kind of nonsensical.
freddie gibbs
Okay, Steven Seagal, I'm talking shit.
Don't fuck me up.
I don't talk shit, man.
joe rogan
Also, he's a big fucking dude.
freddie gibbs
He is.
joe rogan
He's a hundred years old.
He's a hundred years old.
But he's a big dude.
freddie gibbs
Also, he know how to block all the punches and all that.
joe rogan
He knows how to do a lot.
Just because someone's kind of funny, it's kind of funny.
He's kind of a character, right?
brian moses
Karate's Phil Jackson.
joe rogan
He's kind of a karate.
He's kind of like a traditional martial arts character, but he still is a legit martial artist.
Even though he's kind of funny, he does a lot of wacky movies and shit, but he runs weird.
brian moses
He inspired a whole generation, bro.
unidentified
I loved him in Above the Law.
joe rogan
In Above the Law, I loved him in that movie.
freddie gibbs
Hard to kill.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
But Above the Law was the first time you saw what I thought was realistic fight scenes.
He was young.
When he fucked people up in the bar with pool sticks and pool balls, that was realistic.
brian moses
We all loved it.
freddie gibbs
What was the one he was fighting Jamaicans?
Screwface?
joe rogan
Look, he was this interesting, weird-looking guy.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
That was one of my favorite ones.
joe rogan
Look at the difference, man.
He was so thin back then.
But, like, this shit seemed, it seemed at least partially believable.
Like, he seems like a guy who really does understand martial arts movements, and they're much more realistic than, say, like a dude doing a jumping sidekick to one dude's face, or Kicking two dudes at the same time, doing the splits.
We were used to that.
We were seeing a lot of that in Jackie Chan movies.
And it was fun and everything, right?
brian moses
Brought a lot of father and sons together.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
A lot of father and sons together.
We loved this kind of shit.
joe rogan
Chuck Norris movies of the shit.
I loved all those movies.
All the Bruce Lee movies, of course.
brian moses
Jackie Chan came through.
Bruce Lee, obviously.
joe rogan
But what he did was made shit where it was a little more believable that he was fucking these guys up.
As a lifelong martial artist, in my eyes, I was like, this is all real.
This could go down this way.
The way he fucked these guys up.
And also, he looks like a mean bitch.
brian moses
He looks mean.
joe rogan
When he was young and thin, Steven Seagal looked mean as fuck.
And I believed it.
When he was fucking guys up, it wasn't like Pierce Bronson head-kicking people, you know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that was fake.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm watching this guy, I'm like, this is a guy who knows how to fuck people up.
brian moses
Like real John Wick shit.
joe rogan
I'm looking in his eyes.
Like, you look in Bruce Lee's eyes, you look in Chuck Norris's eyes.
Those are people that really know how to fuck people up.
You can see it in their eyes.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I can see it in his eyes.
He knows how to fuck people up.
I mean, it's...
brian moses
What about Jean-Claude Van Damme?
joe rogan
He knows how to fuck people up.
Definitely.
Jean-Claude Van Damme was a legit martial artist.
I love Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Absolute legit martial artist.
brian moses
So those four basically then?
joe rogan
There's quite a few of them man, you know?
Michael Jai White is absolutely legit.
Michael Jai White broke the chain on the heavy bag at Legends Gym in Hollywood.
He asked Eddie Bravo, or Eddie Bravo rather, asked him to demonstrate the way he does a sidekick.
This dude does a sidekick, a hopping sidekick, slams it into the bag, the bag goes ka-ching against the chain, and the chain snaps.
brian moses
That's real?
joe rogan
100% real.
We were laughing, because me and Eddie were like, dude, if this was a movie, and the guy came over, like the movie star is going to demonstrate that he really knows karate, and he does a kick and it breaks the bag, he'd be like, get the fuck out of here with this movie.
brian moses
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
We were laughing our asses off, but he really did it.
Michael Jai White, he has perfect technique.
Perfect.
There's a bunch of demonstrations of him kicking online, but I'm telling you something, the guy has perfect technique.
There's guys that maybe their knee is down too much, or maybe when they throw a kick, dude, I'm telling you, perfect technique.
Everything he does, 100% hip engagement.
brian moses
Underrated.
joe rogan
When you watch him hit the bag.
Remember when he played Tyson?
brian moses
Dog, I was about to say, that was my favorite role he ever did.
Pretty fucking good, man.
joe rogan
Or Spawn.
Remember when he played Spawn?
He was amazing in Spawn.
brian moses
They should bring back Spawn.
freddie gibbs
Oh, they're going to bring that thing back.
joe rogan
They should bring him back at Spawn.
But he has a bunch of videos of him demonstrating martial arts online.
He even did like a thing with Kimbo.
They were working on a movie together and he was explaining something to Kimbo about telegraphing things.
And Kimbo was, you could tell Kimbo was like, oh shit!
It wasn't just like an actor was fucking around.
It was like, oh this guy's legit.
I've watched him, man.
I'm telling you.
I know legit martial arts.
Michael Jai White, very legit.
Wesley Snipes, very legit.
Very legit stand-up.
100% black belt level stand-up.
You watch him fuck people up in Blade, that's 100% Wesley Snipes.
brian moses
Yeah, he went hard.
joe rogan
No, he's good.
But Michael Jai White had a bunch of fights.
Michael Jai White had a bunch of Kyokushin fights.
Michael Jai White is legit.
And you watch him move around.
Is that him with Josh Barnett?
jamie vernon
Cowboy.
I thought they were really going after him.
brian moses
Has he been on the podcast?
joe rogan
No, he hasn't.
I definitely have him on, though.
I did a thing with him back in the day.
In 1994, I was a guest host of Later.
Remember Bob Costas had Later?
And I got him on as a guest.
Because I wanted to talk to him.
brian moses
It's 94!
joe rogan
Oh, dude, it was back in the Dizzy.
It might have been 95. It might have been even 96. But it was in the 90s.
So it was like, I think he was right when he was doing the Tyson movie.
And I was asking him, like, what, because, you know, 96, Tyson was still young and terrifying.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That was a risky time to play him in a movie.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
I said this on the podcast before.
I met Tyson once at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles.
freddie gibbs
Didn't Jamie Foxx play Tyson?
brian moses
And he was looking at my mom.
joe rogan
Jamie Foxx is going to play Tyson.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, and he's going to play Tyson.
joe rogan
Oh, is he?
Yeah, he's apparently bulking up right now.
brian moses
I mean, he does do the best Tyson impersonation.
joe rogan
He does the best everybody impersonation.
Jamie Foxx can do some fucking impersonations.
He's one of those dudes that just has too much talent.
He does so many things.
freddie gibbs
A lot of things.
brian moses
Yeah, legend.
freddie gibbs
That's what I'm saying, man.
You can't just confine yourself to just music.
I looked at guys like Jamie Foxx and see that.
You know what I mean?
I've been looking at him since at Living Color, and he was a versatile superstar.
brian moses
Sketch actor, stand-up.
joe rogan
There's certain dudes that can do anything.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
There's certain guys that like, if they wanted to just play piano professionally.
brian moses
Yo, I Might Need Security is like, it's a top ten for me, like, comedy special.
You ever see it?
Jamie Foxx?
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen that one.
brian moses
I Might Need Security?
Young Jamie.
joe rogan
What year was that?
brian moses
Early 2000s, maybe?
Late 90s?
jamie vernon
Maybe 2000?
brian moses
It's got an Ella Cool J story in it.
I might need security, bro.
That was a hood classic.
joe rogan
He was a fun guy to have on the podcast because Jamie Foxx is a giant movie star, but he acts like a total normal person.
freddie gibbs
And he got classic albums, too.
joe rogan
He can sing his ass off.
He can sing his ass off.
brian moses
And an Oscar?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
freddie gibbs
You know another comedian that make dope music?
Lil Duval.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I love Lil Duval.
brian moses
I love Lil Duval.
freddie gibbs
His new song I just heard, that shit hard as fuck, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
I love Lil Duval.
brian moses
He's a legend.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
You know, he has two planes.
brian moses
He has two planes?
joe rogan
He flies around his own planes.
He flies his own fucking planes.
freddie gibbs
Dope shit, bro.
brian moses
Yo.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's like, that's real freedom.
brian moses
Legend.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He flies his own fucking planes.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
brian moses
That's smart.
Fuck yeah, that's smart.
freddie gibbs
You know what I mean?
brian moses
I'm not paying for flights no more.
joe rogan
Learning how to fly your own fucking plane?
brian moses
Yeah.
Yeah, put it in your own hands.
Isn't like Burr, he's like one of the helicopters.
joe rogan
100%.
I went up with him.
brian moses
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
He took me up around downtown LA. I'm straight on.
freddie gibbs
I'm straight on a helicopter.
joe rogan
Well, apparently they know how to get him down.
The thing about that was that he should have never flown that Kobe Bryant crash.
Apparently that guy, there was a marine layer that was really low.
Bill explained the whole thing to me because Bill Burr is a legit pilot.
He said you'd never take a helicopter out in that weather.
You don't have any instrumentation.
You can't do that.
You can't see what's in front of you in terms of instrumentation.
You don't see where the fucking mountain is.
Slammed right into the fucking mountain.
brian moses
Right.
But it's also like, you know, it's Kobe and he's like, I gotta get there.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, but you gotta tell a guy like Kobe.
That's gotta be so hard.
freddie gibbs
You gotta be like, hey man, we can't go up, man.
brian moses
But this pilot was one of the best, I mean, one of the best helicopter pilots in the world, they were saying, right?
joe rogan
You know what, man?
To have a guy like Kobe in your fucking helicopter is probably so weird.
You want to do whatever he wants.
brian moses
Whatever, yeah.
You're like, you know what?
I can make it.
I've done this before.
I've seen thick marine layer like this.
There's an arrogance of the pilot being like, I can get this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
And you forget, like, oh, I can kill a lot of people here.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, there's kids involved, man.
You should've sat your ass down, man.
But it's all good, though, man.
Rest in peace, Kobe.
brian moses
It's tragic shit, bro.
joe rogan
It's the most tragic.
freddie gibbs
The most.
joe rogan
When someone dies with their kid on the way to a game, you just want to support them, you think it'd be fun to take a helicopter together.
But he loved helicopters, right?
Didn't he travel from where he lived to where the Lakers played and everything by helicopter?
He did a lot of that stuff.
brian moses
He just had dope, yeah.
It's the quickest way because there's traffic in LA. I mean, it's perfect.
joe rogan
Dennis Miller used to do that.
Really?
Yeah, he did a show.
And when he did his show, he would fly in in a helicopter.
And then one time the helicopter, I think...
I'm not speaking out of turn here, I hope.
But one time I think he had an issue.
He was like, fuck helicopters.
Because all it takes is one...
brian moses
We all forget that part, right?
freddie gibbs
I was just in Miami a couple of weeks ago and a helicopter crashed on the fucking beach.
brian moses
Oh my god.
freddie gibbs
It's on YouTube.
It crashed on the fucking beach.
joe rogan
When I was in Hawaii, I took a helicopter over the volcanoes.
freddie gibbs
Oh no.
joe rogan
That's a terrifying feeling because if this thing drops into the volcano...
brian moses
You have no control.
joe rogan
You just melt.
You melt with the helicopter.
freddie gibbs
So it's just lava sitting in the bucket.
joe rogan
Just lava.
Spilling out into the ocean, creating more of Hawaii.
You could watch Hawaii being built in real time.
freddie gibbs
Also, when it erupts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
When it erupts all the land.
Oh, that's crazy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It erupted just a couple of years ago on the Big Island.
Remember?
There was a video of a car getting destroyed by lava.
Someone had parked their Mustang, and the lava at least comes slow.
That's the only good thing.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that's the only good thing about it.
It's slow as fuck.
joe rogan
It's slow as fuck.
brian moses
It just happened to Tunga.
freddie gibbs
Look at this shit.
joe rogan
What is this?
freddie gibbs
It's the helicopter in Miami.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's gonna crash right there in the water.
freddie gibbs
Bro, I was out there.
I was like, uh-oh.
brian moses
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Oh, look at the splash.
Oh my god, it almost hit that dude.
freddie gibbs
They live, though.
brian moses
Did they?
Okay, that's what you're trying to get in the water.
joe rogan
Well, that's the help.
The water.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they live, though.
brian moses
Wait, didn't that volcano shit just happen in Tonga?
It blew part of the island off?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Tonga's a scary spot, man.
freddie gibbs
It blew part of the island off.
brian moses
It blew part of the island off.
It was like a, how many ton, like, megaton explosion?
Huge.
joe rogan
You could see it from space in the ocean.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
This enormous explosion.
Did you see that?
I don't think people died in that one.
The ocean one?
I don't think they died in the ocean one.
Because it happened in the middle of the ocean.
brian moses
Yeah, underwater.
It was close enough to the explosion.
joe rogan
Are we talking about the same one?
brian moses
Yeah.
It's an underwater volcano, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, underwater volcano that you can see from space.
brian moses
And it blew off part of the island.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You can see it from space.
Look at this.
That's from space.
Just a random explosion.
brian moses
That's underwater.
joe rogan
So here's the crazy thing.
brian moses
Underwater.
joe rogan
There was a thing, I think it's called the Toba Volcano, is that what it is, Jamie, in Indonesia?
jamie vernon
It's almost the same spot.
Same spot, right?
joe rogan
So that area is responsible for an eruption, a volcanic eruption that occurred somewhere around 70,000 years ago that almost wiped out the entire human race.
brian moses
What?
joe rogan
It brought the entire human race down to about 7,000 people.
brian moses
What year was this?
joe rogan
This was about 70,000 years ago.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
So 70,000 years ago, everyone you know, everyone on this fucking planet came from these few thousand people that survived.
They don't know exactly how many, but they estimate it could be as low as 7,000 people, but mostly decimated the population of Earth.
freddie gibbs
From that?
joe rogan
From a giant volcano that spewed ash into the sky, killed all the vegetation, killed all the sunlight.
brian moses
Only 7,000 people.
joe rogan
Only 7,000 people.
brian moses
So how does race even exist?
Because that's your human race right there, right?
Because it's all bullshit.
joe rogan
It's all where we live.
If you live in Africa, you're gonna get darker skin slowly over time.
If you live in Europe, you're gonna need more vitamin D. You can only get it from the sun.
There's no fucking sun.
So you get paler and paler and paler after generation after generation.
brian moses
So there's more of an ethnicity in a regional or a cultural thing.
So it's not even...
So whatever the social cause for grace is...
joe rogan
That's all it is.
We just look different.
We just look different.
We're the same exact 100% thing.
It's not like a wolf that's trying to have sex with a cat.
You know what I'm saying?
There's one race.
We just look different because we have different genetics because we came from different parts of the world.
That's all it is.
brian moses
My nigga said that shit louder.
Tell him, hey, where's that compilation at?
joe rogan
So confusing to people.
brian moses
Look at Joe Rogan out here saying, hey, human race.
joe rogan
But this is like 100% accurate.
You know, I'm a mutt.
I'm a mix of a bunch of shit, but it's mostly Italians.
And then I've got some Irish people in there and some African and I got some Asia.
A little bit of Asia in there.
But it's like we're all some weird cross of all these people that started out in some spot and had to survive massive cataclysmic disasters.
freddie gibbs
True.
I'm 98% Nigerian.
brian moses
Whoa.
freddie gibbs
That's what the 23andMe diggers told me.
I don't know, diggers.
I could be some other shit.
I think some niggas was here in America before slavery.
joe rogan
That's what Hotep Jesus believes.
Hotep Jesus was telling me that on my podcast and I was like, well, why not?
People traveled from everywhere.
brian moses
Well, the first shipbuilders, they said they were Africans.
joe rogan
Were they really?
brian moses
Yeah, you looked that one up, yeah.
joe rogan
Does that make sense?
Because Egypt's in Africa, man.
brian moses
Right, they used to build ships for everybody, right?
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
So if a nigga had a ship, a nigga could go in and fuck away water, right?
brian moses
So if you look at some of the old Olmecs, they had huge noses.
Exactly, exactly.
joe rogan
No, let's pull that up.
Pull up an image of the Olmec.
The Olmecs look absolutely African in their features.
brian moses
Absolutely.
joe rogan
The Olmecs, they don't even know who the fuck they were.
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
You know, the Olmecs were like 6,000 years ago or something crazy like that.
They don't even know who they were.
Look at that.
brian moses
See what I mean?
Those are black people?
freddie gibbs
Damn, it's niggas.
brian moses
I know that nigga right there.
freddie gibbs
I know that nigga.
joe rogan
You know what it could be though?
Polynesian, Samoan.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Like Samoan folks.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
There's a lot of Samoan guys that look like that.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they're niggas too.
joe rogan
There was a lot of like warrior people.
brian moses
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I mean, if you want to look at...
brian moses
That looks like Biggie Smalls.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
Warrior genetics.
brian moses
Bro, look at...
That's me right there.
joe rogan
That guy looks like a warrior.
Whoever that...
I mean, look at those faces.
Those sculpted...
Those are warrior faces.
So whoever those folks were, whatever they represented, they don't even know what the culture was.
They don't know anything about them.
brian moses
Yeah, you're right about the Samoan thing, because there's features of it.
unidentified
Yeah, Polynesian.
brian moses
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, dude, a lot of those guys were warriors.
joe rogan
The guys who landed in Hawaii, think about this shit.
They got on regular boats and made it across the ocean and got lucky and found Hawaii.
They didn't know where the fuck it was.
Those people who landed in Hawaii, Whatever thousands of years ago, whenever they arrived, they had no idea where they were going.
brian moses
Right, they just ran into it.
joe rogan
They had little boats.
They didn't have, like, I mean, by the sake, they knew how to navigate using the stars and stuff like that.
But when I say they had no idea where they were going, like, they didn't have maps.
brian moses
Right.
unidentified
Where did they come from?
joe rogan
They were, like, detailed, topographical.
brian moses
They're coming from the east, right?
So they're going, you know, it's not the Europeans coming from, you know, the east.
These guys are coming from, or the west.
freddie gibbs
Where they found, the people that found what?
joe rogan
I think South Pacific, right?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
So when they arrived in Hawaii, there was no one there.
So they found this island that was essentially, you know, had some native life on it, a lot of fish on it, and they got there with no navigation systems, no YouTube videos to watch.
And they set up shop in paradise thousands of years ago.
brian moses
Yeah, and then Columbus came through and just raped, pillaged, and, you know...
joe rogan
Did he go to Hawaii?
brian moses
He didn't go to Hawaii.
unidentified
He went to the Bahamas, right?
freddie gibbs
When did America take over Hawaii?
joe rogan
I don't think that was until the 1900s, if I'm correct.
brian moses
But also, how old is Hawaii, right?
Because that comes from an underwater volcano too, you know what I mean?
Because it's an island in the middle of the ocean.
freddie gibbs
But we had to invade that motherfucker, right?
joe rogan
I don't know how it went down.
I don't know the history of how.
freddie gibbs
We didn't just go to Hawaii and be like, hey man, we want this.
brian moses
Right.
There's a treaty, right, because obviously Japan wanted to claim it.
freddie gibbs
Somebody died.
Somebody got killed.
joe rogan
Well, look at Pearl Harbor.
brian moses
That's what I'm saying, right?
That was a conflict because I think Japan...
Did they own Hawaii at all?
joe rogan
I don't know when...
brian moses
Did the East own Hawaii at all?
joe rogan
I think they were their own nation until people started figuring out they're there.
freddie gibbs
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
unidentified
Right.
brian moses
Don't tell nobody...
joe rogan
Bro, when you go to Hawaii on vacation...
freddie gibbs
And Hawaii don't have a fucking army, so they're like, yo, we with y'all.
joe rogan
Exactly.
I fucking love Hawaii.
I go there on vacation.
I love it there.
The people, the nicest people, and they're some of the best fighters.
brian moses
There's so many UFC fighters.
joe rogan
Max Holloway.
There's a ton of them that came from Hawaii.
freddie gibbs
Hawaii kicked me out.
I went there with a bogus COVID test and them motherfuckers kicked me out as soon as I got there.
Fuck Hawaii.
joe rogan
1784. Chart of the Sandwich Islands by Captain James Cook.
William Blyne.
So he was like probably the guy who got there in the 1700s and found the Polynesian people.
And you know, they brought goats.
They brought over pigs.
They brought all the animals.
Other animals, other than the Axis deer.
The Axis deer were actually given to King Kamehameha.
Hawaiian islands have a shitload of deer, because they were given there by the King Kamehameha.
So he brought them from India.
But these guys, like Captain Cook, they would drop goats off on an island.
jamie vernon
How would they have known it was there in 1784?
joe rogan
Well, they probably had people that probably had drifters, crazy fucks that got on a boat and figured out how to get there and could tell you what time of the year.
Like they knew basically like which way, you know, if you're following the stars and they had sextants, you know what a sextant is?
A sextant is this thing.
It looks like a measuring device, and they would use it to track the stars.
See if you can find what a sextant looks like.
I think they had those at the time.
Find out when the sextant was made, too.
But the sextant was a primitive way to track the constellations, and they would travel across the ocean using them.
Those guys were...
Whist-taking motherfuckers, bro.
brian moses
I mean, that's crazy.
joe rogan
That's a sextant.
So that's what it looked like.
So what year was that invented?
They figured it out a long time ago, and I don't know how they did it.
I don't know much about sextants.
freddie gibbs
That's some crazy shit.
brian moses
That Captain Hook shit.
joe rogan
Okay, look at that.
1731. The principle was implemented in 1731 by John Hadley and Thomas Godfrey.
So what does it say there?
It says unpublished writings of Isaac Newton from 1643 to 1727. So somewhere in Isaac Newton's life, he came up with the concept of it.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
Amazing.
Of course he did.
brian moses
Yeah, of course he did.
Or he just like, yeah, he's strong on somebody for it.
joe rogan
Isaac Newton didn't have sex.
freddie gibbs
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think he died a virgin.
See if that's true.
I might have made that up.
unidentified
Damn.
brian moses
Don't call him a geek.
joe rogan
Bro, I have spread a lot of misinformation.
brian moses
This whole episode is misinformation.
joe rogan
I like to check myself.
I like to check myself before I wreck myself.
brian moses
How old is racism, by the way?
joe rogan
It's forever, from the beginning.
brian moses
Is it really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's tribal.
brian moses
Is it forever?
joe rogan
It's a tribal thing, man.
Okay, here it is.
Newton was rigorously puritanical.
When one of his few friends told him a loose story about a nun, he ended their friendship.
He is known to have never had a romantic relationship of any kind and believed to have died a virgin.
freddie gibbs
AKA, he was gay.
brian moses
Nigga did a bully right there?
Did a bully write this?
freddie gibbs
I think he was gay.
unidentified
Did a bully write this?
brian moses
That sounds like someone got one back.
unidentified
I think he was just gay.
freddie gibbs
They just didn't want to say it.
joe rogan
Bro, the guy told him a fuck story and he broke up with him.
He broke up with him.
freddie gibbs
See, you said he was gay.
joe rogan
He was probably asexual.
freddie gibbs
I don't know.
joe rogan
There's dudes that are asexual, man.
There's guys that, listen.
brian moses
Thank you, Isaac Newton, for not fucking, for making all this shit.
Thank you, sir.
freddie gibbs
Thanks, nigga.
joe rogan
At least he thought he was.
At the tender age of 19, the future mathematician was committed to paper a list of 48 sins of which he was guilty.
Transgressions ranged from peevishness at his mother to having unclean thoughts, words, and actions, and dreams...
What's that word?
They might not know how to spell it.
Dreamesis...
Dream-a-me.
That sounds like how Gollum would say dreams.
I have dreams.
He also confessed to eating an apple at thy house, though he gave no word as to whether it was the apple.
Okay, whatever.
brian moses
I think it was fucking that apple.
joe rogan
He stuck a needle in his eye socket on purpose.
jamie vernon
There's a lot.
joe rogan
Oh my god, in Newton's time, little was known about the properties of light.
In fact, people weren't sure whether the eye created light or collected it.
James Gleick, author of the 2003 biography of Newton, told HuffPost Science in a telephone interview, curious, Newton embarked on his own detailed study of optics, and he wasn't above acting as his own guinea pig, probing his eye with a blunt needle known as a bodkin.
jamie vernon
That was on your mom's house video, I think.
joe rogan
Oh my god, yeah, I saw one of those.
freddie gibbs
Stupid motherfucker.
joe rogan
Guy did surgery.
freddie gibbs
He's a stupid motherfucker too.
joe rogan
I think you can't be smart at everything.
This is what I think.
I think the more you don't have sex and relationships at all in your life, and you'll cut a friend off if he talks about fucking, you've narrowed down your bandwidth of thinking.
And you could push it all on whatever he was doing with science and gravity and all the crazy shit.
There's people like that, there's a spot in society that's perfect for them.
Maybe it didn't even exist until they were born, but they can figure out a thing.
They got a lane.
brian moses
Like intermittent fasting almost, right?
You have more energy.
Yeah, your body's not eating food so it can focus on other things.
freddie gibbs
So I need to do intermittent fucking.
brian moses
I mean, basically that's what they're saying.
It's just like, yeah, I just knew him was a genius, but he ain't getting no pussy.
joe rogan
Well, how many guys do you know that have a relationship with their wife or girlfriend?
They break up, and then they go on a rampage.
When they go on a rampage, they don't get nothing else done.
Right?
They don't answer text messages.
They're like, bro, I thought we were going to go to dinner.
Oh, fucking...
freddie gibbs
Because they stopped getting pussy.
You've got to keep getting pussy no matter what.
joe rogan
No matter what.
freddie gibbs
I think it's...
brian moses
He's Isaac Newton to getting pussy.
joe rogan
That should be in a quote.
You've got to keep getting pussy no matter what.
freddie gibbs
You've got to keep getting pussy no matter what.
brian moses
I think Nike already did that.
unidentified
Just do it.
brian moses
Nike's so good shit.
freddie gibbs
Just fuck.
You've got to keep getting pussy no matter what, man.
brian moses
Yeah, Isaac Newton.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think Isaac wanted it, man.
brian moses
No, he was too busy.
joe rogan
Don't you think if certain people are born blind, don't you think certain people are born with no sexual appetite at all?
freddie gibbs
I don't know.
brian moses
Sure.
joe rogan
Imagine if you weren't horny at all.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Ever.
brian moses
There has to be people like that, obviously, right?
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
brian moses
If there are pedophiles, if there are people who have bloodlust, that kind of a thing.
joe rogan
Imagine if you weren't horny at all and your friend just wants to talk to you about butt-fucking.
You're like...
What are you talking about, man?
brian moses
Can we talk about quantum physics?
joe rogan
I'm trying to figure out gravity.
You're sticking your dick in a place where someone shits.
brian moses
Yeah, make them bitches fuck so we can fuck.
joe rogan
Listen, 100%, there has to be people that have no desire whatsoever for intimate contact with another person.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not any crazier than people that are born with all kinds of different things that are different about that.
freddie gibbs
So what do they do?
They gotta bust a nut.
You have to bust a nut.
joe rogan
I don't think you have to.
I think there's certain people where their body doesn't produce any testosterone.
freddie gibbs
Or very little of it.
My football coach told me to go get some pussy.
He said, if you hold in that nut, you're gonna get acne.
And I didn't want to have no pimples.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
brian moses
Your coach said that?
unidentified
What?!
brian moses
Biggie Small's teacher said, you're never gonna make it, but Freddie Gibbs, high school coach, said, if you ain't...
freddie gibbs
You gotta bust them nuts.
joe rogan
Moses, do you have a teacher like that that fucked with you, that said something to you that sticks in your craw?
brian moses
No, I had one teacher said I wasn't going to graduate and then I did.
I remember when I graduated, I told her, I was like, see, I knew I was going to make it Miss McJunkin.
freddie gibbs
He told me, my coach told me, get some pussy.
He said, don't beat your shit.
He said, don't beat your meat.
He said, when you beat your shit, you beat your brains.
So I was like, I guess I'm making myself stupid by jacking off.
I need to get smashed.
joe rogan
They gave terrible advice back then.
Bro, my wrestling coach was trying to get me to play football.
I wrestled at 134 pounds.
He was trying to get me to play football.
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about, man?
He's like, Rogan, you'd be fast.
You'd be great on the field.
I go, fuck you.
Our heavyweight was this kid, Bob Baker.
He weighed 300 pounds.
I was like, I'm friends with Bob.
He's so much bigger.
He could fit me inside of him and no one would even notice.
Fuck out of here.
I'm not playing football.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that's dangerous.
joe rogan
It's a terrifying game.
freddie gibbs
It's fun, though.
joe rogan
It's fun if you're on the right side of it, right?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it's fun.
joe rogan
Dudes get hit in baseball, and it's rare.
Someone slides into a catcher or something like that.
They collide into someone.
freddie gibbs
I stopped playing baseball because I didn't want to get hit with the ball no more.
brian moses
Right, though.
That's a weapon coming at you, yeah.
freddie gibbs
I think I'm good on this shit.
joe rogan
What I'm saying is that dudes get hit in football every fucking day.
brian moses
Oh, car crashes, yeah.
And they're bigger, they're fat.
I mean, they're literal cars coming at you and crashing.
It's a collision sport, right?
joe rogan
Here's my question.
How come hockey players get to fight?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
How come everybody doesn't get to fight?
What is this?
brian moses
They catch 200 pounds coming at you in skates.
I mean, none of them have teeth, you know what I mean?
unidentified
But why?
joe rogan
What's going on?
What's the rules there?
freddie gibbs
Hockey wasn't made in America.
brian moses
It wasn't?
It's Canadian.
freddie gibbs
It's Canadian.
joe rogan
Is everything else made in America?
brian moses
Actually, I don't even know if it's Canadian.
freddie gibbs
It's Russian, I think.
brian moses
Is it?
joe rogan
Hockey?
Let's guess.
Let's guess.
I would say Russian.
I think Russian.
Because it's in Russia.
brian moses
It's in Russia.
And they're very good at it.
joe rogan
And it's a big deal in Russia.
I think it's Russian.
Okay, let's go with Russian.
What we got?
Where was hockey created?
But why do they get to fight?
freddie gibbs
Because fighting in American sports is unsportsmanlike.
brian moses
You know, there's no black people in hockey, and if you show black people fighting, nobody's going to watch.
Everyone's like, this is okay.
I can see my son fighting.
joe rogan
If you show black people fighting, they're not going to watch?
What are you talking about?
brian moses
Black people love boxing.
I know.
I'm saying, but I feel like with sports like that, when it's a team sport, you can't really...
I mean, it's like, oh, these thugs are fighting, and we're not going to get the ratings.
If it's white dudes, it's like, it's cool.
Unless it's UFC or boxing.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I agree with that.
If it was black dudes in hockey fighting, they wouldn't.
brian moses
They'd be like, these thugs are on the ice.
freddie gibbs
But niggas don't want to be cold.
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
We ain't skating shit.
brian moses
Right.
jamie vernon
Two answers.
joe rogan
England.
It emerged in England in the mid-18th century and was largely attributed to the growth of public schools.
brian moses
We are all about misinformation here.
jamie vernon
What?
joe rogan
Hockey was- hold on!
Hockey was a part of the growth of public schools?
I don't know that- Can you scroll back up so I can read that again?
The origins of hockey have been long debated.
In 2008, the International Ice Hockey Federation officially declared the first game of organized ice hockey was played in Montreal in 1875. But it says in this other paragraph here, the modern game of hockey emerged in England in the mid-18th century, which is the 1700s, and is largely attributed to the growth of public schools, such as Eaton.
What?
The first hockey association was formed in the UK in 1876 and drew up the first formal set of rules.
Could you imagine if schools emerged because of hockey?
Is that real?
Is that real?
Like, would public schools emerge because of hockey?
brian moses
Get them in class so, yeah, they'll go play hockey.
joe rogan
That is crazy.
brian moses
It's like an incentive?
joe rogan
Can you imagine if hockey was how they figured out schools?
freddie gibbs
I think, I mean, maybe it was a bunch of rich guys that, I got my hockey team.
Nah, Nick, I got my hockey team.
All right, I got my school.
They started school.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to start my school.
joe rogan
Maybe.
freddie gibbs
That's how they did it.
joe rogan
But, okay, so...
unidentified
So how come you can't fight in rugby then?
joe rogan
Rugby should be fighting.
You should fight in rugby.
You can fight in hockey.
You can't fight in rugby.
That's ridiculous.
brian moses
Rugby basically is a fight.
Rugby already is a fight.
joe rogan
And they don't have any helmets on.
freddie gibbs
They all got shit on.
joe rogan
You know, they say that that's safer, believe it or not, that American football, that the problem with the head, like the helmets and the shoulder coverings, the head coverings, is that they make you feel like you're protected, but you're not really.
brian moses
No, yeah, I think it's the helmet, bro.
joe rogan
The thing is, we're so scared of the transition period between helmets and no helmets.
unidentified
I mean, make them lacrosse helmets, you know?
joe rogan
That you can't give anybody any padding on their head and allow them to smash people in the heads.
freddie gibbs
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
If you're a bigger guy and that guy's got a smaller head, that's a terrifying place to be if you're that smaller guy.
freddie gibbs
I mean, we can talk to hit people in the face.
jamie vernon
Why fighting is allowed in the NHL? There's no real answer here that I got to, but as I'm reading the third time, they do fight in baseball.
joe rogan
They do?
But don't they break it up immediately?
brian moses
No, they break that up, yeah.
jamie vernon
They break it up in hockey, too.
joe rogan
No, but they let them toss it.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, no, no.
brian moses
They break it up in hockey, but those guys get like, what, like two minutes, like a timeout and they go right back in?
jamie vernon
It depends.
It's gone down over time, but I was looking at some baseball things, like Reggie Jackson hit a home run and then went and fought the guy.
unidentified
Oh!
brian moses
That was the 70s, though.
joe rogan
My grandfather was a Yankees fan, so I used to have to watch those games.
I was a little kid.
I used to watch those games with my grandpa.
He loved it, man.
brian moses
Bro, those guys were on so many drugs.
The 70s and the 80s were cool for baseball.
I'm sorry, baseball.
joe rogan
I don't think they had the right science, though.
They didn't have the right science.
What really was interesting is the Mark McGuire years.
When they got dudes like juicy, juicy, juicy.
brian moses
Yeah, the science.
Smacking the shit out of the ball.
freddie gibbs
It's fucked up how they kept him and Barry Bonds out of the Hall of Fame.
joe rogan
It's fucked up.
It is fucked up.
Because there was a lot of people that were taking it.
And they were better than everybody else.
It's like the Lance Armstrong argument.
You want to say that Lance Armstrong doesn't deserve to win the Tour de France?
Well, everybody was on drugs.
The whole Tour de France was on drugs.
brian moses
Everybody's doping.
joe rogan
They're all doping.
brian moses
Yeah, but that's also like, they say the same thing about the 70s era when they're all on methamphetamines.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brian moses
You know?
joe rogan
Exactly.
brian moses
So like, why are these guys bad?
Because they broke those great records.
Babe Ruth is their pinnacle.
You can't beat those records.
They almost killed Hank Aaron for that, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
I mean, I wasn't alive during the Hank Aaron era, but I believe they probably said he was juicing, weren't they?
Like, oh, he's a cheat probably.
joe rogan
I never heard that.
brian moses
He's on something.
joe rogan
Did they say that?
I never heard that.
brian moses
I never heard that.
Sorry, Hank Aaron.
joe rogan
I don't think they knew what Juice was back then.
brian moses
I'm trying.
Misinformation.
I'm out here.
joe rogan
That should be a girl that does porn.
Misinformation.
brian moses
I think she's a radio DJ, actually.
Misinformation.
Oh, there is?
joe rogan
Is there a radio DJ? Yeah, I think that they didn't discover that shit until Eastern Bloc Nation started experimenting on it with Olympic athletes.
And you started seeing women Olympic athletes that were posting up numbers that I think even...
Google this, because I think there's some powerlifting numbers from Eastern Bloc Nations from the early days before drug testing that they still haven't beaten.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
Like, dude, they engineered people back then.
There was an article I read about this lady who was in that program, and she was like a weightlifter, and she basically was forced to take hormones, and it ruined her chance of never having children.
She could never have children, and she was just talking about what awkward shit it did to her body.
Because back then, man, they would just...
brian moses
They were science experiments, right.
joe rogan
They didn't give a fuck, man.
You're gonna win for the Soviet Union.
Like, you take that drug.
brian moses
Right, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't have a choice.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It's like, you know, there's a lot of communist countries that just decide what you're gonna do.
And if you're a woman, and you show promise at weightlifting, and they want you to represent Russia.
brian moses
Gymnastics, right.
joe rogan
Back in the 1950s or 60s, whatever it was.
brian moses
Ice skating, right?
Cycling, all of it now, right?
joe rogan
This is what we're realizing with this war, man.
This is a people thing.
People like to control people.
It doesn't matter if they're Russian or Chinese or wherever the fuck they're from, American, Canadian.
Look at what's going on in Canada.
They froze the assets, all those people that contributed to the truckers that were trying to protest.
What are you doing?
They froze the assets.
They froze people's assets.
I don't know if they released them.
I think they eventually, ultimately released them.
brian moses
Yeah, where are people's rights to protest?
joe rogan
Well, man, it's like...
brian moses
Canada's a democracy, right?
joe rogan
It's a thing that people want to...
Look, running things and ruling over people has got to be very fucking complicated.
It's very difficult to do.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It's so hard to do, and so hard to do when you have, like, all these different pressures from all these different businesses that have contributed to your campaigns, and people that want you to do one thing or the other thing.
Goddamn, it's got to be hard to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And one of the easiest impulses, one of the most normal human impulses is just to help people shut the fuck up.
I'm gonna do this now.
We're gonna impose this.
We're gonna impose a new law.
We're gonna keep this law.
It's a natural thing that people want to do when they get in charge.
And you're not supposed to be able to do that.
And the people that like voted with them, that's a mistake.
You're not supposed to give people new powers.
The amount of power they have is enough.
Those powers are supposed to be reserved for terrorist attacks and shit.
Wild stuff.
brian moses
Not your own people.
joe rogan
People trying to overthrow the government.
Not people that are protesting.
You've got to be able to tolerate a certain amount of protesting.
You have to be.
There has to be discourse, because otherwise you're going to make new laws to make your life more convenient and easy.
But the fucking real reason is, No one should be a president.
No one.
No one should be a prime minister.
No one person should get that much juice.
brian moses
Facts.
joe rogan
And I don't think they have in America.
I think this is a good example.
Because I think that with Biden, it's probably a lot of people helping him out.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It's probably a gigantic group effort.
But Russia?
Nobody's saying shit to Putin.
brian moses
No.
Right?
joe rogan
You know, that's a different kind of thing.
When a person gets to that spot, that crazy superposition where they can just call out whatever they want done, force things, attack.
freddie gibbs
The only other motherfucker I remember running Russia was Mikhail Gorbachev.
And after that, it was just been Putin the rest of my life.
joe rogan
How about Khrushchev?
In the 1960s, Khrushchev pulled his shoe out and banged it on the desk and said, I will bury you.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Bro, do you ever see that?
You need to see that because this is like post-nuclear weapons first being deployed.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
This was in the Cold War, could have been a hot war.
In the 70s?
No, this is like when he did that with Khrushchev, I don't know what year it was.
I'm thinking...
I'm thinking this was during like the Kennedy years, 1960. Yeah, 1960. He took his fucking shoe off and banged it on the desk and said, I will bury you.
Do you understand how terrifying that would have been?
freddie gibbs
Who was he talking to?
joe rogan
To us!
To us!
brian moses
Yeah, Russians go hard.
joe rogan
And these motherfuckers had nuclear weapons and a long history of brutal warfare that was just recently behind them.
They had warfare on their front lines.
You know, during Stalin's era, fucking who knows how many people starved to death in Russia.
Russia was horrifically, horrifically treated by its rulers and by history and fate, and that goes back to the Mongols invading them in the 1200s, man.
brian moses
So it's just in their blood.
joe rogan
Dude, they've had a long history of conflict.
These are fierce people, and you see it in the UFC right now.
There's these Russians that are coming over and fucking dominating in the UFC. There's so many of them.
It's like a high population of Russians.
freddie gibbs
I've been to Russia, too.
That shit is...
joe rogan
It's a hard place.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
It's cold as fuck.
brian moses
Is it third world?
joe rogan
The people are strong.
No!
freddie gibbs
It ain't third world.
joe rogan
No, not at all.
It's just a different...
They're just hard people, man.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I don't like the vibe.
I'm good.
brian moses
Ah!
I said put my man on here.
I gotta clarify that.
That was some urban vernacular.
joe rogan
It's a vernacular.
Do you know that Louis CK was doing a show?
He was supposed to be doing a show in Ukraine when the shit hit the fan?
brian moses
Oh, I read about that, yeah.
It was on Twitter.
He's talking about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I want to read his text.
It's pretty hilarious.
That sounds terrifying.
He was pretending that he was there and then he wasn't.
He was pretending he was there?
brian moses
To me in a text message.
joe rogan
Just to be funny.
He's like, I'm fucked.
He said, no, I got out.
This is crazy.
And he's explaining.
And he's doing like some European tour right now.
But imagine, Sean Penn is over there right now.
brian moses
Dog, over there.
CNN's over there.
I mean, they're over there.
They're just like documenting it.
Hoping they don't get killed.
joe rogan
In Ukraine.
In Ukraine, yeah.
This is a real hot war.
brian moses
It's a war.
joe rogan
In our lifetimes.
brian moses
I've never, right.
That's what I'm saying.
This is the first time I've ever seen this kind of conflict with white people.
I'm like, this is hard.
joe rogan
You know what it's like?
This is like slaps.
If you're going to get in a street fight, this is like by using conventional weapons, it's like slaps before they start throwing haymakers.
We've got to be really terrified of haymakers.
Because if haymakers come, and I know this is a bad analogy because people are dying.
I don't mean it that way.
What I mean is it'll escalate to the point where everybody's dead.
That's what's terrifying to me.
What's terrifying to me is that he's...
What has he done with his nukes?
What has Putin done with his nukes?
There was like something that he did?
brian moses
Well, Belarus just opened up their nukes for him, right?
jamie vernon
Even though we just clicked on this video, I just read a bunch of reports that said this didn't happen.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
But we just watched it.
jamie vernon
There might not have been a shoe in his hand.
joe rogan
What's in his hand?
jamie vernon
It's like a gavel, probably.
brian moses
Oh.
Okay.
joe rogan
For sure.
Yeah, that's a shoe, bro.
Look at the end.
jamie vernon
I just read 15 reports that said this.
They don't even have a picture of him doing it.
joe rogan
I think that is propaganda by the government trying to discredit my podcast.
Go back to that.
freddie gibbs
Misinformation.
brian moses
Misinformation, baby.
joe rogan
Watch it pop up.
I swear to God I saw a heel.
Let's let it pop up.
It's like right when he bangs it, right there.
That looks like a shoe, bro.
That's a shoe.
jamie vernon
No, not negative.
joe rogan
Should you gavel?
Is it a gavel?
brian moses
Shoes are a thing in politics, right?
joe rogan
He's going to back it up.
Here we go.
brian moses
We got it here.
joe rogan
Bro, you sure that's not a shoe?
brian moses
The play-by-play, the frame-by-frame.
joe rogan
You sure that's not a shoe?
I will crush you!
jamie vernon
If it was a shoe, this is the only account of anywhere online that I could just find.
joe rogan
It's a conspiracy.
jamie vernon
I'm saying.
joe rogan
Okay, so that's a conspiracy.
The part that it was a shoe.
Is it really more interesting that he bangs his shoe?
Yes, it is, right?
It is.
It's kind of a gangster.
freddie gibbs
That is gangster.
joe rogan
Someone take their shoe off and bang it on the desk?
brian moses
Russians are gangster.
Russians are fucking gangster.
joe rogan
Well, he was definitely gangster, whatever he was doing.
Well, thank you, Jamie.
brian moses
But the Ukrainians, too.
I mean, hard, dog.
joe rogan
Hard people.
brian moses
Hard.
joe rogan
Listen, man, you got Lomachenko over there, one of the greatest lighter-weight fighters of all time.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You got the brothers Klitschko.
Two of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
freddie gibbs
One of them is a mayor over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, Vladimir.
Vitale, rather.
Vitale is the mayor of Kiev.
He's the mayor of Kiev.
And then you've got Usyk, who is one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever lace on gloves.
What he did to Anthony Joshua, I was like, I can't even believe I'm seeing this.
I can't even believe I'm seeing this.
He did lighter man boxing in the heavyweight division and put on a fucking show.
Look at him out there.
brian moses
The niggas are hard.
joe rogan
He's an interesting guy, too.
Usyk, he's really creative.
If you watch him on his Instagram page, he's always dancing and shit, moving around.
He's a very eclectic, sort of eccentric guy.
He's got a lot of different things going on with him.
His boxing styles fucking almost unprecedented for the heavyweight division He moves like a lightweight guy like he's constantly moving he's in perpetual motion Fainting and jabbing and cutting angles and his footwork is superb.
I mean Anthony Joshua is such a power puncher man And to stand in front of him like that and just keep pressing forward and get clipped too?
brian moses
Yeah, with the Russians.
joe rogan
They're hard people, bro.
And he's over there right now with a rifle.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
A rifle and a helmet.
brian moses
They got stingers.
They got javelins.
joe rogan
The thing is, like, where does this go?
Like, how do they end this?
How do they end this without people...
brian moses
I just don't know how you devalue life like that.
That's all I'm saying.
joe rogan
It's terrifying, because it leads, like, if you can justify killing 10,000 people, you can justify killing 100,000 people.
You can justify 100, you can justify a million, and then you can keep going.
brian moses
Well, now you're talking about genocide.
Yeah, the genocide of the people.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you feel like...
There was a time during the 1960s where these generals were talking about nuking China or nuking Russia, that you could eliminate it very quickly and that you could do it fast and we would only lose a few million people in the United States and they were willing to give it a go.
freddie gibbs
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they were real generals.
Like, real generals.
brian moses
Just power over people's lives?
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Oliver Stone.
Oliver Stone was explaining this to me.
brian moses
Dog.
joe rogan
He's like, the guy was the inspiration for the Doctor Strangelove movie.
You know, the Doctor Strangelove.
You ever see that?
brian moses
Not only heard of it, but I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
Doctor Strangelove is a crazy movie from early days.
Like, it's like 65 or something like that.
And it's all about these generals sitting around wanting to go to war.
And they were talking.
One of the guys was talking.
It sounded like a parody.
He was talking like, we'll probably lose Chicago and maybe a couple other places, but for the most part, we'll have limited amounts.
Yeah, basically a documentary.
Dr. Strangelove is basically a documentary.
Stanley Kubrick's 1964 film, Dr. Strangelove, is a black comedy that ends with the world being completely destroyed in a nuclear war.
Many aspects of the film might seem absurd, but according to Daniel Ellsberg, who worked as a nuclear war planner in the 1960s, it's actually pretty close to reality.
He says that was a documentary, Ellsberg says in episode 297 of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy podcast.
Existed as an operational reality at the time.
He says that while specific doomsday machine featuring Dr. Strangelove is fictional, the Russians and the Americans' nuclear arsenals function as de facto doomsday machines since a first strike by either power against the other would be more than enough to plunge the world in nuclear war.
And so they really were trying to do this.
So there really were some wild ass generals.
From the 1960s that were thinking we might have to nuke them before they nuke us.
freddie gibbs
I mean they did.
They did.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
unidentified
They did it.
brian moses
I mean so they did.
They did it before us.
freddie gibbs
They wiped out the whole city.
joe rogan
It's amazing we haven't done it since.
brian moses
I thank God.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, thank God.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
But it's amazing, isn't it?
brian moses
But now more countries have this capability.
joe rogan
Everybody's got it.
brian moses
Yeah, everybody's got it now.
joe rogan
Bro, they talk about suitcase nukes.
brian moses
See?
joe rogan
You go, what the fuck did you just say?
Suitcase nukes.
It's like someone could have a suitcase that's a nuclear weapon.
unidentified
What?
Don't say that.
joe rogan
A suitcase?
brian moses
That's real.
joe rogan
And what would that suitcase do?
Detonate a city.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
How much power is in a suitcase nuke?
freddie gibbs
What the fuck?
brian moses
Yeah, how many megatons?
What is that?
joe rogan
I mean, how much is that?
And are those real?
brian moses
Power.
joe rogan
Dude, it's terrifying.
What human beings are capable of doing to each other is terrifying.
Because also capable of being cool as fuck.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Dude, what we were just talking about earlier.
freddie gibbs
Why would we even make a nuke?
brian moses
This is what I'm saying.
Why can't we use this power to figure out how to find other intelligent life out there?
joe rogan
The problem with nuclear power is that someone was gonna make it.
brian moses
Right, and that's exactly.
freddie gibbs
It's out there in the universe.
joe rogan
Well, Oppenheimer and the Manhattan Project did it to try to end the war because they felt like the war was going to go the wrong way and Hitler was going to take over the world.
Now, if Hitler took over the world, we'd obviously be fucked, right?
I mean, what happened during World War II, everybody would be.
What happened over there in World War II in 1947 changed the course of history.
But, you know, it didn't have to.
If the Germans figured it out quicker, bro, they figured out a lot of shit.
They figured out all kinds of race car technology that, you know, how many fucking elite world car manufacturers came out of Germany?
Mercedes, Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi.
brian moses
What the fuck, dude?
joe rogan
BMW. It all came out of this fucking same part of the world.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
Tragedy.
joe rogan
Dude, they invented all kinds of shit.
Jet engines.
They had advanced technology.
brian moses
The science that came out of that too because of the experiments they were doing?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
You know what Operation Paperclip is?
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
All the people that ran the NASA program that put people on the moon in the 1960s was Nazis.
Operation Paperclip was a real operation the US federal government engaged in where they took Nazis from Nazi Germany, Nazi scientists, and they brought them over.
Werner Herzog, who's the head of, or excuse me, Werner Von Braun, Werner Herzog's a documentary guy, Werner Von Braun, who is the head of NASA, was a Nazi.
So much so that the Simon Wiesenthal Center at one point in time said if he was alive today, they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity.
brian moses
Wild!
freddie gibbs
So NASA is a motherfucking Nazi.
So the end of NASA is a Nazi.
brian moses
It's always about the advancement of humans.
joe rogan
I read this story about how they would hang the five slowest Jews at the doorway to the rocket factory in Berlin.
brian moses
What?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes, that was real.
brian moses
Where is this at?
joe rogan
Just during the Holocaust.
During the Holocaust, during World War II, Wernher von Braun ran a rocket factory and they had Jews work as slaves.
They brought all these people over here.
They brought all these people over here with their advanced rocket ship technology and they all helped put us ahead of the space race.
You never heard about those?
No.
Do you know they used to fight duels?
So they all had big cuts all over their face.
brian moses
Like Mandingo fights almost.
joe rogan
That was a badge of honor.
They all had giant duel scars on their face.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Imagine not just being a Nazi, but being a Nazi whose whole face was sewed back together.
Like they wanted to look like monsters.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Pull up Nazi duel scars.
Look at this shit.
Look at these guys.
brian moses
Okay.
Oh.
unidentified
Damn.
brian moses
That's why they had these.
joe rogan
Look at that guy.
brian moses
You see all this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian moses
You look up Nazi pictures.
joe rogan
They all had this.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
So they would put goggles on, and then they would put, you know, like an outfit on.
brian moses
You don't want to fight these guys, though.
I mean, like, yeah, you look at these guys, these are monsters you're fighting.
This gives you nightmares.
joe rogan
They would fight with swords and cut each other's faces, and it was a rite of passage.
And so you look at like the guys running NASA. Now look at dueling scars NASA operation paperclip and you'll see like guys who are working for NASA in the 1960s have Nazi dueling scars on their face.
Look at that guy in the upper left hand corner.
brian moses
Who's that woman though?
joe rogan
Like, look at his face.
jamie vernon
She wrote a book about it.
joe rogan
Oh, no, she actually was on our podcast before.
Eddie Jacobson.
brian moses
I was like, where's her?
joe rogan
No, there's her and me together talking.
brian moses
I swear to God.
joe rogan
She doesn't have a dueling scar.
But look at that dude's smile he's got connected to his cheek.
Look at that guy down there.
Jamie.
Look at that guy.
brian moses
Oh, my God.
I thought that was Walt Disney.
joe rogan
The black and white guy next to his hand.
The one that says, go to the right a little bit.
Yeah, that guy.
Look at that guy's face.
brian moses
Dude.
joe rogan
But there were so many of those guys.
They had these dueling scars all over their face.
See, what this is supposed to teach people...
freddie gibbs
Who's they dueling against?
joe rogan
Each other, right?
Each other in schools.
They didn't like military schools and shit.
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Hard.
joe rogan
Hard.
brian moses
Nazis are hard.
joe rogan
Cold as fuck in the winter.
freddie gibbs
Did anybody die?
joe rogan
Different kinds of people.
freddie gibbs
You gotta die.
You cut me like that.
joe rogan
I guarantee you some people died.
Guarantee you some people got their necks cut and died.
They had to.
brian moses
That's what makes these motherfuckers scary.
joe rogan
They're fighting the face with swords.
brian moses
Scary.
joe rogan
But it was like a rite of passage to have your face fucked up and get all stitched back together again.
brian moses
Yeah, nobody's gonna be as hard as the Nazis.
joe rogan
I guarantee you a lot of people died from the infections.
What does it say?
What?
jamie vernon
There is social significance of them, too.
It's like you were elite.
joe rogan
Oh, you were also good husband material.
Jesus Christ.
brian moses
That's the propaganda.
joe rogan
But this is the thing, man.
This goes back to warrior cultures, whether it's the Vikings or any Native Americans, any warrior cultures.
They all valued scars.
The number in the extremity of scars was reduced in more recent times.
And the custom of obtaining dueling scars started to die off after the Second World War.
Well, after we kicked your ass.
freddie gibbs
They said some students who didn't even fence Would scar themselves with razors in imitation.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Well, you know, jujitsu guys do that.
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They fuck their ears up on purpose.
freddie gibbs
Oh, that's why they be having a cauliflower ear.
joe rogan
Well, no, there's two.
Like, some of them get a cauliflower ear just from regular grappling, but some of them, like, they'll grab their ear and fuck it up.
They'll bend it and crush their ear just to get a little blood in there.
freddie gibbs
Ugh, fuck that.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
It fucks what you're hearing, too.
jamie vernon
It's suitcase bombs, by the way.
It's as big that it could be in a suitcase or backpack, according to what I was looking up.
The power is 10. I don't really understand the bomb power stuff.
joe rogan
What does it say?
jamie vernon
It's not quite as big as the ones we dropped on.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
But it's still a nuke.
joe rogan
So it would be how much of a percentage of a Hiroshima bomb?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
I don't even want to give an answer because I didn't see anything comparing it to that specifically.
I also was trying to find if they were even a thing for a minute.
There was a 60 Minutes interview where a Soviet general said they created about 250 of them and 100 were missing at some point.
joe rogan
The Soviet Union is crazy.
What was that Operation Ordessa?
Have you seen that?
Who produced that again?
Is that Billy?
That's not Billy Corbin, right?
No, that's someone else, right?
Who produced Operation Ortesla?
freddie gibbs
What's that?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to remember.
joe rogan
Operation Ortesla is about these drug dealers that buy a submarine.
unidentified
Yeah, Tiller Russell.
joe rogan
Tiller Russell, that's right.
Sorry, Tiller.
They buy a submarine to fucking deliver their drugs in from the Russians, and the Russians ask them if they want nuclear bombs.
freddie gibbs
What the fuck?
joe rogan
The Russians asked them if they want to buy nuclear missiles.
freddie gibbs
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Bro, it's a great documentary.
It's a great documentary.
It's really interesting.
freddie gibbs
So they were smuggling coke from Russia?
joe rogan
Yes.
freddie gibbs
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yes.
Dude, it's a wild documentary.
freddie gibbs
Where the fuck do you get cocaine in Russia?
joe rogan
I bet it's probably pretty easy if you're friends with the right people.
freddie gibbs
Oh my God.
joe rogan
It's a really good documentary.
But it's all about that.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Every time I go places over there like that, they got bad cocaine.
Like Australia, they cocaine.
That shit is good.
It's basically like ketamine, like special cake.
joe rogan
Oh, well, it probably is.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it is.
brian moses
Freddie's talking about cocaine again.
joe rogan
I don't know what cocaine is.
I don't know what it does, because I've never tried it.
Because I know I'd love it.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it does.
joe rogan
I don't need anything that gives me any confidence.
brian moses
Yeah, that's why I don't do crack.
They say it's like a body orgasm.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not interested in that.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, all the crackheads, I know they used to have to get their dick sucked to fuck while they was doing their cracker right after immediately or something.
They make them horny as fuck.
brian moses
Yeah, you don't want that drug.
You get hooked on that drug, yeah, that's over.
joe rogan
I had a good buddy of mine that was deep into it.
He was always trying to take me to buy it.
I was like, man, if I get my car repossessed, I'm going to be so fucking mad at you.
So I'd have to drive him into Harlem.
And he would go and score.
And I was always trying to clean him up.
Because we were from completely different ends of what you do with your body spectrum.
Like, I had come from martial arts and, you know, I was a stand-up comedian and he was a pool hustler.
And, like, he was always, like, homeless and sleeping on it.
brian moses
He was bound to do crack.
freddie gibbs
Bound to do crack.
joe rogan
And he was doing a lot of crack.
freddie gibbs
Future crackhead.
brian moses
Why did you teach him, like, hey man, you know what would be cheaper?
If you just made this shit yourself.
joe rogan
You realize when you talk to people that have a real problem, it doesn't matter what you say.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You can't really say anything.
freddie gibbs
You think, man, you can't tell no motherfucker to make their own crack.
That was a joke!
You don't think every crackhead had that bright idea like, I'm just gonna go get me some cocaine to make my own shit.
joe rogan
The problem is I'm getting undercut.
brian moses
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like go to Home Depot.
joe rogan
This crack could be so much more inexpensive.
brian moses
Yeah, exactly.
freddie gibbs
They can't afford the powder.
They just get a rock, man.
brian moses
It's like fast food.
freddie gibbs
It's fast food.
Like a single nigga buying groceries.
He ain't gonna do that.
Uber Eats.
joe rogan
Let's imagine a place where crack is legal.
freddie gibbs
Russia.
brian moses
Oregon?
joe rogan
No, right here in America.
Imagine if that was, yeah, it is in Oregon.
But you can't sell it.
It's decriminalized.
What I'm saying is legal.
I'm saying legal everywhere.
Like, let's cut the bullshit.
You know, if I can buy booze, if I can walk into a CVS and buy enough whiskey to kill myself, you 100% can, right?
You walk into a drugstore, they sell whiskey, don't they?
brian moses
Absolutely.
joe rogan
If you buy a couple of bottles of whiskey and you just drink them in an hour, you're a dead man.
You're a dead man.
freddie gibbs
You're a dead man.
Alcohol poisoning.
joe rogan
You're a dead man.
So why is that okay?
What is it?
Because we are used to it?
Like, I'm not saying you should do crack.
But why is it okay to just drink yourself to death?
brian moses
Because maybe it...
They haven't tested enough because alcohol I feel like has been around so long.
joe rogan
Have you done crack?
brian moses
Never done crack.
joe rogan
Imagine if like a really smart person does crack and they're like, wait a minute, this is actually beneficial.
brian moses
I mean, we gotta find that guy.
joe rogan
Here's the problem.
It's like, you know, we get bad propaganda because everybody does crack is already a loser.
brian moses
But presidents drink alcohol.
joe rogan
Maybe the president smokes crack.
brian moses
There's only a few mayors I even know.
joe rogan
If I was Biden, I'd smoke crack.
I'm like, how much time do I have left?
I want to try crack.
freddie gibbs
Crack just got bad physical effects on the body, like the face, the teeth, shit like that.
It's not a glamorous drug.
joe rogan
I don't think that's what it is.
I think that's neglect.
Freebasing a little bit, but also neglect.
Dr. Carl Hart, do you know who he is?
brian moses
Yeah, I've read about this guy.
joe rogan
He's a professor at Columbia.
brian moses
Brilliant guy.
He does heroin, right?
joe rogan
Yes!
He's been on my podcast a couple of times.
He's a very interesting guy because he talks openly about his personal drug use.
He's careful about it where he doesn't give up sources or whatever.
brian moses
Yeah, he's a functional heroin addict, right?
joe rogan
But he's basically saying, and this is his position.
He was a research scientist.
He still is.
But he was in his 30s and researching these chemicals, whether it was cocaine or heroin or whatever it was.
And he realized we're getting a bunch of bullshit misconceptions about what the effects of these things are, what the withdrawal are.
He goes, withdrawal for heroin is like having the flu.
I go, really?
He goes, yeah, it's like the flu.
Like, you get over it.
He goes, everyone...
freddie gibbs
Shit, I just see this motherfucking shit on themselves.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
People shit on themselves if they have the flu.
If you have the flu and you think you're going to die...
freddie gibbs
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
If you have the flu and you...
You ever have the flu and you think you're going to die?
When you had COVID, you told me you were as sick as you've ever been.
freddie gibbs
Sick as fuck, but I wasn't dope sick.
brian moses
You weren't dope sick?
joe rogan
Have you been dope sick?
freddie gibbs
Never.
joe rogan
But do you know that that's 100% for everybody the same?
Do you know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
Some bad dope sick.
Some crack sick.
brian moses
More than the flu maybe.
joe rogan
But heroin.
Just heroin.
Heroin is what he was concentrating.
brian moses
He said it was basically like the flu.
joe rogan
Listen, people die of the flu.
They fucking die.
It doesn't get worse than dying.
It doesn't get worse than dying.
I don't see how there's any way you could dispute what he's saying.
I think there's somewhere in the neighborhood of like 10 to 20,000 people have died in a year from the flu.
What's like the most people that have ever died in a year from the flu?
brian moses
I mean, well, we talk about the Spanish flu.
joe rogan
Just like a regular flu, seasonal flu.
jamie vernon
Since when?
joe rogan
Just Google a normal year.
How many people died from the flu in 2017?
So we're far enough removed from COVID. Because H1N1 was the flu.
That was killing people.
freddie gibbs
We wasn't tripping on that.
We wasn't wearing masks for no H1N1. It went away pretty quick.
joe rogan
Burt had it.
Chrysler had it.
He said he almost died.
brian moses
When I first had COVID, you were like, I thought it was going to die.
joe rogan
61,000 every year?
jamie vernon
About 61,000 people died in 2017, 2018 flu season.
joe rogan
Imagine if 61,000 people every year died from heroin overdoses.
You'd say that's crazy, right?
No, it's more!
brian moses
It's more!
joe rogan
No, it's over 100,000!
That's what I'm saying.
It's the number one cause of death of people 18 to, I think, 18 to 49. Overdosing, right?
jamie vernon
Overdosing.
They put all opiates together, so it's 75,000.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I thought it was 100. Number one cause of death.
jamie vernon
Opioid.
I just typed in opioid overdoses per year.
Top thing.
CDC. Drug overdoses per deaths.
The new data documents that estimated overdose deaths from opioids increased to 75,673 in the last 12-month period ending April 2021. That still beats the flu.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does.
brian moses
It still beats the flu.
joe rogan
It beats the flu.
He's ahead of the flu by about 10,000.
jamie vernon
Two years before it was 49,000, so that might have been a pandemic uptick.
brian moses
MVP, yeah.
joe rogan
No, 2017 wouldn't be pandemic at all.
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
The one I just read that was the higher number was 2021. Oh.
And then 2019. 2021?
joe rogan
How many people died from the flu?
jamie vernon
No, 75,000 people died from the opioids in 2021. I never looked up the flu numbers for that year.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So, well, this is a, yeah, now I understand what you're saying.
So the pandemic rise would be higher because of a lot of suicides and drug overdose.
jamie vernon
Yeah, just on the screen, there's these two things from, it says 2019 was 49,000, 2021 was 75,000.
The pandemic happened in that time period, that could be a...
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah, they've talked openly about how the fact that drug overdoses and suicides have gone way up.
jamie vernon
That's all.
I was just trying to clarify that.
joe rogan
I got it.
No, I was just confused at first.
But I think that...
brian moses
So people can't handle the overdose, so everybody can because he handled that flu-like symptom you're saying.
joe rogan
No, here's my question.
If you made it legal, how many people would die?
Let's guess.
freddie gibbs
I mean, people die of...
joe rogan
Right.
Legal heroin, we could buy it at 7-Eleven.
freddie gibbs
I mean, people die of Oxycontin every day, too.
joe rogan
They do.
brian moses
That's legal.
joe rogan
They do.
Right.
But it's interesting.
If someone writes something down, if the guy went to school, writes something down on a piece of paper and gives it to you, and you go to get your drugs...
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Good job.
brian moses
Opium was legal back in the day, right?
freddie gibbs
The thing that's nasty about heroin is the needle aspect of it and the disease transfer.
joe rogan
Don't a lot of people just sniff it though?
freddie gibbs
A lot of people do, but shit, a lot of my folks...
joe rogan
Carl Hart was telling me he just sniffs it.
brian moses
Oh, he just sniffs it?
joe rogan
Just sniffs it.
freddie gibbs
Oh, he just sniffs it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Like, you don't have to be, like, shoot in your veins.
That's not necessary.
freddie gibbs
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
I don't think Diaz ever did that either, way, way back in the day when he had tried heroin.
freddie gibbs
If they put heroin in a pill form or something like that, then yeah, they probably make it work.
joe rogan
1924, it became illegal.
brian moses
Don't they, though?
I mean, that's basically what it is.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
100%.
Synthetic.
Go back to that, Jamie.
Look at this.
When did heroin became illegal in 1924?
After a few decades of legal use, heroin use and misuse rose rapidly.
It became clear that heroin was a highly addictive substance.
The United States government made heroin illegal in 1924. So this was, by the way, this was legal during the Prohibition era.
brian moses
Up until 24, right?
freddie gibbs
That's just because they didn't know how to sell it.
joe rogan
When did the Prohibition end?
When did the Prohibition end?
brian moses
The 30s.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it lasted for a while.
brian moses
But it started, what, 1921, 1920?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they had some movements that didn't take off for a while, and then one finally stuck.
joe rogan
Listen, man, if you could get away with not getting arrested during those days, you know how fun it would be to be drunk?
brian moses
Well, not for us.
joe rogan
Yeah, right.
Not for you.
brian moses
Yeah, we can't really go back in time.
joe rogan
We can't do that.
But imagine if we could.
I mean, if there was a time like today, like if they found out that alcohol was like the source of the resistance, like if they did studies and they found out, you know, people are more willing to do a lot of things if they just don't drink.
If there's too much, fuck it in drinking.
We've got to make drinking illegal.
Liver sclerosis, and it's contributing to the environmental problem that we're experiencing.
If they just make alcohol illegal.
brian moses
It could have been the hospital thing again.
joe rogan
But do you know how fun it would be to be drunk if alcohol was illegal?
freddie gibbs
Fine.
brian moses
It was, though.
It would be so fun.
I mean, it created mobsters in America.
joe rogan
It did.
It did.
Al Capone made a lot of his money from Prohibition.
A lot of the monsters did.
brian moses
And we all learned.
I mean, I say, you know, street gangs and the drug hustle.
joe rogan
Bro, that's where NASCAR came from.
brian moses
Right!
joe rogan
NASCAR came from guys who were running whiskey in their cars and trying to get away from cops, so they souped up their cars.
freddie gibbs
Wow.
brian moses
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't it wild as shit?
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
Moonshiners!
brian moses
So, yeah, we ain't got nothing for no heroin, though.
unidentified
Nothing.
joe rogan
You could die easy from moonshine.
I got a fucking mason jar of moonshine someone gave me.
Bro, you take an eight-hour glass, you're taking a dirt nap, bitch.
You ain't gonna make it.
brian moses
You ain't gonna make it.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that shit is crazy, that moonshine shit.
I can't fuck with that.
joe rogan
It's paint, then.
brian moses
Yeah, I don't know if they make a...
joe rogan
It doesn't taste good.
See, buffalo tastes good.
brian moses
Intravenous drug use tastes good.
joe rogan
Cheers, gentlemen.
I'm having a good time.
brian moses
My man.
joe rogan
Moses!
And we're gonna be judges tonight on Kill Tony.
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Or guests.
brian moses
I'm down there.
freddie gibbs
And Alchemist in town, too.
He got a show.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
Alchemist.
Earl Sweatshirt.
joe rogan
There's a lot of shit going on.
unidentified
Action Bronson.
joe rogan
Is he in town this week?
unidentified
He's in town.
joe rogan
Oh.
brian moses
They got the tour.
joe rogan
That dude, he came on my podcast fat and then fit.
brian moses
Yeah, now he's a bodybuilder.
joe rogan
But we worked out together.
We went over to the honor gym.
We trained together.
I'm like, this dude fucking really gets after it, man.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so impressive, like a guy who just ate food and smoked weed his whole life, and then all of a sudden trimmed himself down like this super fit.
Like he got stuck in traffic.
So he did 200 push-ups and 200 squats while he was stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic.
Just savage.
brian moses
Go get him, Bronson.
joe rogan
And he's like a genuinely sweet guy.
Look at him there.
Bro, that guy lost a fucking ton of weight.
freddie gibbs
He did.
joe rogan
And I'm telling you, when we work out together, click on that one where he's using that club belt.
Right there, yeah.
Look at this.
Dude, this is hard shit to do, man.
freddie gibbs
Hell yeah, it is.
joe rogan
These clubs, that dude is a tank now.
Like, we did a lot of shit together when we went to the Onnit gym and we trained together.
And that dude is strong as fuck.
Oh, he's dancing.
brian moses
Yeah.
He's a weightlifter now.
He's a bodybuilder.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
He does a lot of functional fitness stuff.
Like he does a lot of kettlebells and maces and shit like that.
Like when he's on tour, he brings like kettlebells with him and he works out in the green room and shit.
He's flipping tires.
He's doing all kinds of wild shit.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stuff I don't even do.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he look good, man.
I'm glad.
joe rogan
I'm telling you.
He works out every fucking day.
freddie gibbs
I'm glad he got his shit together, man.
joe rogan
I love when that happens.
Isn't that nice?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at him.
He used to be big.
brian moses
I fuck with Action Bronson.
joe rogan
Look at that one where it's thin, though.
Look at that one right there where it says Action Bronson, Jamie.
Right next to the big picture.
Right next to the big picture.
Oh, sorry.
jamie vernon
It's a video game picture.
joe rogan
Oh, it's fake.
Is it a video game?
Oh, they've created him in like UFC video game or something.
It looks like he's got UFC gloves on.
Oh, you can do that?
Someone needs to make you.
How come no one's made young Jamie?
jamie vernon
I don't know that they have.
joe rogan
They should give you a golf club, let you fuck people up.
brian moses
They will now.
They will now.
joe rogan
I told you, I'm going to make this public, Kyle Kalinske's challenged you to golf.
jamie vernon
Bring it.
brian moses
Wow, strong one.
jamie vernon
How much is on the line, too?
brian moses
Are you a badass golfer?
jamie vernon
I'm fucking up Tony already.
brian moses
Okay, okay, I've heard.
joe rogan
Listen, Jamie, I'm going to be there.
I'm going to do blow by blow.
brian moses
Blah, blah, blah.
Are we talking about Coke again?
joe rogan
Play-by-play.
Play-by-play.
brian moses
Okay, play-by-play.
Misinformation, my bad.
joe rogan
How was Roast Battle?
brian moses
It's perfect.
joe rogan
Was it?
brian moses
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
How's the energy here?
brian moses
Yo, I gotta say this about Austin.
This is like the second best comedy city next to New York right now.
Like, the progression of this city becoming a comedy city is incredible.
Now, the energy's great.
The comics are all really, really good.
I mean...
Yeah, fuck what you heard.
Austin, they have really, really good stand-up out here.
freddie gibbs
And some hoes out here, too.
I was in the strip club last night, BYOB, and we're going back again.
joe rogan
Heads up, ladies.
brian moses
This is the king of the strip club, man.
freddie gibbs
Heads up, heads up.
joe rogan
Freddie, you're the king of multiple things.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
A wide array, I should say.
freddie gibbs
Definitely, man.
brian moses
Austin's got a hell of a roast battle scene, though.
They have some killers.
joe rogan
Listen, man, when we open up, we're going to go visit my club as soon as we get out of here.
And when we open up, dude, whatever you want to do.
You want to come down once a month?
You want to come down once a week?
Whatever you want to do.
I would love to have roast battle here.
brian moses
Calling all roast battlers.
We're making a roast battle league.
If you're in any city in the world, roast battle league.
We're trying to make an NBA, an MLB, an NFL. Yeah, we're trying to go to the Olympics.
Roast battle is an Olympic sport.
freddie gibbs
And I want to own you niggas like Jerry Jones.
unidentified
Shut up!
joe rogan
Back to slavery.
Roast battle was one of the first things that I saw that made me want to come back to the store.
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
So 100% true.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
I came in the day before Ari's filmed the special.
You know the whole story.
I was gone from the store.
I was banned for seven years.
brian moses
Exile.
joe rogan
And I was in exile.
I was on my quest.
And so I came to the store because Ari...
Was doing a Comedy Central special, rather, the next day.
And I was like, I can't just show up the day of a special.
I'm going to show up the day before, and I'm just going to feel the place, because I haven't been there in so long.
And I saw Rose Battle.
And I saw you, and I saw what you were doing, how you made people hug it out at the end of this horrible, evil, trash-talking session with each other.
I'm like, this is what the comedy scene needs.
They need joke writing and bullshit and fun.
Exactly.
And fun.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you had a handicapped person up there.
brian moses
Oh yeah, Joe Urell, man.
Joe Urell is a savage with the roast battle.
Cerebral palsy, he's in a wheelchair, but he's one of the best roast writers I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Some of the meanest, funniest shit I've ever heard is during that roast battle.
brian moses
Yeah.
I'll say it.
Here's a joke.
It's my favorite one at Rose Battle.
It's talking about Joey Rose.
So Joey Rose has got cerebral palsy.
He's in a wheelchair and the cat that was battling him, a Mexican cat named Howard Escobedo, he said, we all know Joe's going to hell because there's a stairway to heaven.
joe rogan
See that's what I love about Rose Paddle.
Not that that guy had to experience that and feel that pain.
I don't love that.
But I love the writing.
That's in the spot.
This is not an old joke that he's had forever.
brian moses
It's Spectre Gadget.
This is gonna blow up in 15 seconds kind of a thing.
joe rogan
This is a writing exercise, and that's the funniest possible shit you could say right there.
brian moses
Joke writer showcase, dog.
That's a great joke.
And it's all consensual.
That's what it's all about.
Everybody going in there, it's UFC shit.
We're all consented to get our asses kicked.
joe rogan
Yeah, like if you watch someone get head kicked.
Like, bro, you signed up for this.
brian moses
You signed up for this, yeah.
You can't say, yeah, you can cuss afterwards and sue us?
Yeah, you asked for this.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, rappers will never do that shit.
brian moses
No.
freddie gibbs
Well, they do rap battles, but they be doing this shit.
brian moses
No, we get a lot of rap battlers now.
They try to do roast battles.
They get cut up.
freddie gibbs
Motherfuckers that really get mad, they be in their feelings.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Comedy is complicated.
freddie gibbs
That's why you got a different thing.
You got battle rappers, and then you got...
Rappers that make albums and make songs and shit like that.
The niggas that make albums and make songs and shit like that, they would never sit there and battle each other and shit and somebody would get shot.
joe rogan
Think about how many rap feuds have been going on throughout the day.
Biggie and Tupac.
freddie gibbs
It's just a confrontational industry.
joe rogan
East Coast, West Coast.
freddie gibbs
It's just, you know, young black guys getting a lot of money that's, you know, egotistical.
joe rogan
And guys coming up that want to challenge them.
brian moses
Remember Tim Dogg in NWA? We just talk about, you know, casting the face slice.
You know?
That's the culture.
joe rogan
That's the culture.
freddie gibbs
It's intertwined with the streets.
It's just intertwined with the streets.
You know, if I was a country singer, I wouldn't worry about getting shot going outside.
I'm a motherfucking rapper, so I'm like, god damn.
brian moses
That's why Darius Rucker stayed away from hip-hop.
He was like, I gotta like this country.
freddie gibbs
And another thing too, you know what I'm saying?
When you're a rapper, every nigga in America feels like they can do your job.
brian moses
That's comedy though too, bro.
joe rogan
But that's comedy, Freddie.
freddie gibbs
You feel me?
joe rogan
Every joker, every dude who's the life of the party, he thinks he can go up and do stand-up.
brian moses
But they all think they can also podcast too.
I'm just like, you can't...
You're not that guy.
joe rogan
I don't think people understand what podcasting is.
It's the same way they don't understand what stand-up is.
I don't think I understood what podcasting is for like 10 years.
It took me like 10 years to figure out what it is.
I was like, oh, this is like a different kind of art form.
Like everything.
You can't just think you're just having a conversation with people.
Because you're not really.
You're being disingenuous.
You're having a conversation with people and you're guiding it in an entertaining fashion.
And you're trying to figure out how to like...
brian moses
You've got a lot of shit to figure out, bro.
joe rogan
Massage it.
brian moses
You're the biggest voice in the world right now.
joe rogan
But that doesn't make any sense.
brian moses
It's nice, right?
joe rogan
I did not try for that.
Dude, I have no interest in that.
I don't.
When I signed onto Spotify, I literally said to all my friends, I was like, dude, this is going to be good.
I'm going to be like 25% less famous.
I go, that's what I want.
I want to be like 25% less famous.
brian moses
No, they lifted you up.
Your haters lifted you up.
joe rogan
It's not even just that.
It's just like everyone that gets into a certain position doesn't think or talk sloppy.
Like they talk polished and professional and here we are on the set.
This is a wild scene, ladies and gentlemen.
There's only a certain amount of like real personality they're allowed to exude into whatever they say, whether they're on a network news show or a talk show or whatever the fuck they are.
There's not a lot of people that are independent, and we're all confused.
And we're all trying to figure out, like, is the pattern that everybody subscribes to, is that the right one?
Does that make sense?
Or is it just what we have to do if we want to just keep a job, keep in line, don't get in trouble, don't get people mad at you?
But if you're allowed to just express yourself, just freely, is that how you would talk?
If you have one life, it lasts maybe 100 years if everything goes perfect, and you're already 54, what the fuck are you supposed to do?
Are you supposed to pretend?
Are you supposed to be just following along with all the other nonsense that's going on around you because you want a pension?
What are you supposed to do?
Like, at what point in time?
He's supposed to go, Hey!
I don't think we have a captain at the fucking wheel of the boat!
I think the human race doesn't have a captain at the wheel of the boat.
And we should all have a conversation.
brian moses
I mean...
joe rogan
And I don't want to be the fucking man.
I don't want to be the man.
brian moses
Nobody wants this job, right?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
I just want to let everybody know.
Like, we're all just fucking people.
Whether you're a president or a prime minister or a judge or a cop or a fucking pharmacist or a doctor.
We're just people.
And there's a problem with all kinds of labels and the way we look at each other.
brian moses
I will say this, though.
I've never seen a black person look like a Planet of the Apes.
Those guys don't look like black people.
Who do they look like?
That cat from Princess of the Bride?
The guy with the four fingers?
joe rogan
Are you talking to me about the video?
brian moses
Yeah, the Planet of the Apes thing.
joe rogan
This is what I meant to say.
Listen to what I meant to say.
We were high as fuck, and we got dropped off in this neighborhood, and we didn't know where we were going.
The guy just let us out of the car, and we were barbecued going to see Planet of the Apes.
I was trying to have an entertaining way of saying it was like we were in Africa.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
I said, right after I said it, I go, that's a racist thing to say.
I wasn't trying to say it that way.
unidentified
Look, I fuck things up all the time, which is fine.
freddie gibbs
Africa, niggas, monkeys.
You can't really put that in the same shit.
brian moses
No, no, no.
joe rogan
That's not what I mean.
I mean, Africa is where all the chimpanzees emerge from.
It's a movie about chimpanzees.
I didn't mean ever, nor would I ever say.
brian moses
Bro, I know.
joe rogan
Listen, here's the problem.
brian moses
We gotta spank you about it.
joe rogan
I know you do, but I have to be honest about it.
I just talk shit about everything.
I don't mean anything bad by it.
But when I say something, I go, that's not what I meant.
I really mean that's not what I meant.
I never say something horrible on purpose.
If something gets fucked up like that...
freddie gibbs
You had the niggas in Philly talking about, oh, Joe thinks we some motherfucking buckets.
joe rogan
Listen, if anybody is what I am.
brian moses
I didn't want to say that because that would be racist.
I have a whole bit.
joe rogan
I have 57% more Neanderthal than a regular person.
brian moses
You have a whole special of it, right?
joe rogan
I have a whole bit about it.
Like what I'm doing right now.
I'm more Neanderthal than most people.
Which is fucking obvious.
brian moses
Yeah, I just want this for the right and left wingers to be like...
joe rogan
Moses, I love you, so I'm glad you're the one who brought it up.
It's just one of those things.
It was fucking 11 years ago.
It's one of those things where you say and you're high.
We used to do those shows back in the day, first of all.
We would do them.
We would smoke a volcano.
You know those things?
brian moses
Those vaporizers?
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Joey and Red Band and I, we hit that goddamn volcano and it just puts you in a coma.
And you have to struggle with your own thoughts while you're thinking them.
brian moses
I know.
Trust me.
I do nigger jokes all the time when I'm high.
freddie gibbs
Well, I got to do a video this week where I got to be set on fire and I'm going to get a white stunt, man.
joe rogan
You got to be set on fire for what?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, because I'm doing a video where I'm crashing from space.
It's going to be crazy, man.
joe rogan
From space?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Can't they CGI that shit in now?
freddie gibbs
Nah, man, we gotta make it real.
brian moses
You really gonna go in space?
joe rogan
I think they can make it.
brian moses
Shipping you into space.
joe rogan
But obviously you're not really going into space, so why can't they CGI the whole thing?
Everybody's like, when Freddy was in space, that was unrealistic.
But once it got to the ground, boy, that looked like real fire.
freddie gibbs
You see that shit with Bill Cosby and the implemented black stuntman in Hollywood?
That was one good thing that he did.
joe rogan
Bill Cosby's the first guy to bring in black stuntmen?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
Was he really?
freddie gibbs
That's what they said on the doc book, because before they had white dudes and they were just painting them black.
brian moses
Oh, they was black facing them?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they was black facing Bill Cosby stuntmen on I Spy.
brian moses
Yeah, if I was Bill Cosby, I'd have done that too.
Like, hey man, come on.
Like, this is the most offensive shit.
freddie gibbs
He put niggas on for stuntmen.
brian moses
They'd be like, Bill, what about that Spanish fly you doing?
unidentified
Do you ever watch any of that Al Jolson shit?
Dog.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
It's wild.
brian moses
It's gotta be.
joe rogan
Come on.
unidentified
It's wild.
joe rogan
Let's watch some of it.
Al Jolson.
Al Jolson was like the first blackface guy, the minstrel guy from like the early 1900s.
brian moses
Yeah, he wasn't the first.
He was the most famous.
joe rogan
He was the most famous?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, one of the first is what I meant to say.
freddie gibbs
Oh, you that piece of shit.
joe rogan
So this guy...
Back then, like, he would, I mean, you gotta imagine, what year is this?
brian moses
What year is this?
joe rogan
The first movie with sounds, 1927. 1927. So, in 1927, this is how far human beings have gone in a hundred years.
brian moses
So the minstrel show is in the mid-1900s, the early 1900s, like the most popular form of entertainment.
joe rogan
Let's stop and think about...
freddie gibbs
But what was so entertaining about being a nigga to them?
brian moses
That's what I hated black people, bro, back then.
joe rogan
This is also what it was.
Like, the human race was emerging into a new understanding of what's fucked up and what's not.
brian moses
Post-Civil War, right.
joe rogan
What's okay and what's not okay?
And this this was the first time they were ever experimenting with media You got to realize in like the 1920s like they're making movies the first movies everyone anyone's ever seen so no one Understands what it's like to make something that a lot of people are gonna see no one knows what it's like to to like see something like this in a movie and then also they have this thing where they don't want a A black person to play this role.
They want a white guy to pretend he's a black guy, which is just crazy.
freddie gibbs
That's kind of why.
joe rogan
Because he doesn't look, he looks like a guy with makeup on.
He does not, this is like completely unrealistic.
brian moses
This is the nice shit, though.
The menstrual shows, I mean, like the other ones aren't this nice, you know what I mean?
Look at that.
Like they're literally just portraying black people eating watermelon and, you know, acting like runaway slaves.
You know, this is a little more stand-up and they want to be a little more classy.
It's so crazy.
freddie gibbs
Robert Downey Jr. did this shit in Tropic Thunder.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
I talked to Jamie Foxx about that.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, how do people really...
joe rogan
And I talked to Robert about it, too.
It's like, you can't do that today.
freddie gibbs
Nah, you can't.
joe rogan
You would never be able to do that today.
freddie gibbs
How did he get away with it in Tropic Thunder, though?
brian moses
He got a Golden Globe nomination for it.
unidentified
Really?
brian moses
Yes!
joe rogan
Dude, it's a great performance.
I mean, I hate to say it.
freddie gibbs
Okay, Joe, you trippin' again.
joe rogan
Listen, I'm not saying he should do it, he definitely shouldn't do it again, and no one should make a Tropic Thunder 2. No, but even people would say that, like, ah, he's pretty good in it, though.
brian moses
I'm an associate from San Antone!
joe rogan
There's a value into, oh my god, you can't do this.
There's a value to watching that.
As a comic, when you're watching something, you're like, oh my god, I can't believe you're fucking doing this.
brian moses
Billy Crystal's been in blackface, Howard Stern's been in blackface, Jimmy Campbell's been in blackface.
joe rogan
Listen, that feeling of, oh my god, I can't believe you're doing this, is why I love Kyle Dunnigan.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Like, did you see that Nancy Pelosi thing?
brian moses
Yes, that's what I'm saying, man.
It's...
joe rogan
Have you seen this?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you seen it?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
It's goddamn genius.
Him playing...
I want to see it.
Pull it up.
Pull it up, Jeremy.
brian moses
Yeah, but Dunnegan's brilliant.
joe rogan
Dunnegan playing Nancy Pelosi on a fucking talk show.
unidentified
Just in time for the lightning round.
joe rogan
No, no, no, it's...
unidentified
That was easy.
This should probably be a lure against congresspeople trading stocks.
We just haven't gotten around to it.
joe rogan
I mean, this is fucking amazing.
unidentified
Okay, let's get batshit.
Nancy Pelosi, give it a financial advice show.
Booyah.
I read your husband bought Google just before the antitrust bill vote.
You guys made five million dollars.
Mm-hmm.
So, was that like luck?
Yes, it was a miracle.
Thank you, George Floyd.
joe rogan
Look at her hands.
She's got skeletons.
unidentified
Okay, Mark from Illinois.
Booyah, Nancy.
Booyah.
Can I hold on to my Tesla position before the eBay bill passes?
A little birdie told me I'll be voting the other way.
You newbies at home, don't be discouraged.
I lost a lot of money in the market, but things really turned around when I started making lures.
When we come back, I'm gonna jingle all my jewelry in your face.
You'll like it.
joe rogan
Kyle Dunnigan's a goddamn genius.
freddie gibbs
I like that.
joe rogan
He's a genius.
brian moses
I mean, the thank you George Floyd line is, that is primo, primo.
It was a miracle.
joe rogan
It was a miracle.
brian moses
Use that man to jumpstart their power.
I mean, come on, y'all.
My goodness, get him, Kyle.
Get him every time with that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
He does everybody, too.
He can do Biden.
He does an amazing Biden.
brian moses
He does a good Michael Jackson.
unidentified
He does everybody.
joe rogan
Oh, my God, that Michael Jackson was ruthless.
freddie gibbs
So it's not blackface if they do Michael Jackson.
brian moses
I was going to say, like, the deepfake.
Can you blackface with deepfake?
joe rogan
That's a very good question.
brian moses
Yo!
joe rogan
Right?
If you're a white guy and you have to do, like, Samuel Jackson, is that what you have to face swaps?
freddie gibbs
That's blackface.
joe rogan
You have to face swap Samuel?
That is kind of.
brian moses
That's new blackface.
That's digital blackface.
joe rogan
Right, so the only way you'd be comfortable with that is if it was a black guy doing Samuel Jackson's voice.
If it was a black guy who was an impressionist.
brian moses
They're doing a caricature of what they think is a black person.
joe rogan
And then they have the Samuel Jackson face swap.
That's okay.
freddie gibbs
That's good.
That's cool.
Do white people get mad?
joe rogan
I'm just trying to lay down the laws for white people so everybody understands.
freddie gibbs
Do white people get mad?
When Dave Chappelle do white face?
joe rogan
No.
brian moses
Or white chicks?
joe rogan
Nobody gives a fuck.
brian moses
Yeah, Eddie Murphy, right?
joe rogan
No.
brian moses
Because it's always punching down for white people.
That's what it is.
It's asserting power over people because they're the majority.
So when every time a black person does it, we're just punching up?
freddie gibbs
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Well, Pryor had the best version of it.
Which one?
Well, we had a bunch of...
When he would do the best version of the white guy voice...
brian moses
Oh, he created it.
unidentified
You're right, right, right.
brian moses
He created it.
joe rogan
Hey, my mom was a wonderful gal...
My mom?
Well, my mom was a wonderful gal.
It's like 1950s, what was on TV. It's like Isaac Newton, white guys.
It's like the fake dudes, like the very first people, like Leave it to Beaver.
The dad on Leave it to Beaver never jacked off.
brian moses
Why would I? He does it the best, right?
Making you guys sound like, yeah, like, emasculating a little bit, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
Like, turning them into, like, dopey robots.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Like, hey, hey, my gal.
Why are you talking about my gal?
So, you know, it's like they're stuck.
They're stuck, like, ten years earlier.
I mean, when you look at, like, Pryor's emerging era, which is, like, the 1970s and, like, into the 80s, right, when he, like, emerged as a superstar, like, those people were dorks.
brian moses
I mean, it's just, it's brilliant to see, like, hey, white people, I mean, nobody likes to be talked about, but, like, here's one person who's making this, like, is obviously honky or white, you know, like, those aren't as hard as the word, the N-word.
But when this cat's doing it, it's almost like he's talking shit about us, but this is really funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were happy to watch it.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think people were more comfortable with talking shit about each other back then, too, which is why Archie Bunker worked.
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
Do you ever see that fucking scene where Archie Bunker is talking to Sammy Davis Jr.?
It's been going around, like, right now, because it's like, apparently today's the 50th anniversary of All in the Family.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
And Archie Bunker and Sammy Davis Jr. talking shit to each other.
It is fucking hilarious.
freddie gibbs
He was talking shit to him?
joe rogan
It was hilarious.
brian moses
Yo, you have that?
joe rogan
Try to find it, man.
Try to find it.
It was the 50th anniversary.
Sammy Davis Jr. and Archie Bunker talking shit to each other.
It's so funny, man.
It's so funny.
It's like, it's what we, like most, it's like backstage, green room, shit talk.
We talk so much shit to each other.
We get so used to it.
brian moses
Right, yeah.
You can't be around normal people saying that because they get hurt.
joe rogan
We talk so much shit to each other, but we talk so much shit about life, about everything.
And your whole idea is like, make the comics laugh.
brian moses
That's what it's all about.
I mean, you know, that's what it's really all about.
It's tough to do on this podcast because everybody's, you know, judging us for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll be all right.
Sammy Davis Jr., here it is.
unidentified
Can't let him nut.
There's much in with the briefcase now there, Sammy.
I'll let him right in.
The high arch.
Come on, sir.
We're white, dear.
We're white.
I don't think this is it.
jamie vernon
I'm not sure if it's the right clip.
brian moses
There's only two clips popping up.
joe rogan
It said he kisses him.
brian moses
Right.
unidentified
This is one that's a little longer, but I don't know if it's the right thing.
Cross the street.
joe rogan
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter, but folks can find it if you just watch the show.
Whenever Sammy Davis Jr. was on with Archie Bunker, they talked a lot of shit to each other.
brian moses
It was very funny.
joe rogan
I just watched this one clip.
unidentified
All right.
Well, in the meantime, will you make yourself at home, huh?
We'll get you some coffee, huh?
Oh, that's awfully nice of you.
Yeah, sit right down here, Mr. Davis.
Right in my chair.
Make yourself comfortable.
It's the best in the house.
Listen, Mr. Davis, I gotta tell my mother you're here.
She's crazy about it.
Oh, man!
We're going to have to watch this whole show to interpret this.
joe rogan
That's definitely not the scene.
It was just fun.
They were just talking shit to each other.
It was funny.
brian moses
Sammy Davis is a cold, cold dude.
He was cold.
I mean, the stuff that he's seen and been through, I mean, being in the Rat Pack and all the racism, but also being a Jewish cat, you know?
joe rogan
He lost an eye, right?
What happened?
brian moses
I don't know.
I don't know.
freddie gibbs
Bushwick Bill also had to.
unidentified
Didn't he...
joe rogan
Did that happen like...
Was that self-inflicted?
freddie gibbs
I think so.
brian moses
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Or was it a girlfriend?
brian moses
Bushwick or...
joe rogan
With Bushwick, I think a girlfriend did it to him, right?
freddie gibbs
He did it.
I think he did it.
brian moses
Self-inflicted?
freddie gibbs
That's what made me want to listen to Ghetto Boys as a kid.
I was like, this is some scary shit.
unidentified
Dude.
brian moses
Those are your guys, Ghetto Boys.
You always talk Ghetto Boys when we're hanging out.
joe rogan
I love Ghetto Boys.
When I delivered newspapers, I would listen to Ghetto Boys almost every day.
freddie gibbs
I love the Ghetto Boys.
joe rogan
When I was just beginning as a comedian, I would listen to cassettes, and I would just drive around and deliver newspapers.
I listened to the same Ghetto Boys cassette like 30 fucking times in a row.
freddie gibbs
That's what I had to walk with.
joe rogan
Ice-T, back in those days, when he wrote the soundtrack for Colors, or was on the soundtrack.
freddie gibbs
Oh yeah, Ice-T, the man.
brian moses
Wasn't Sammy Davis like the first cat on Playboy After Dark or something?
joe rogan
What was that?
brian moses
Was he on stand-up or singing?
joe rogan
Playboy After Dark?
brian moses
Yeah, the Hugh Hefner show.
freddie gibbs
Oh yeah, they was talking about that on the Bill Cosby doc.
Hugh Hefner was letting black comics and stuff come in because they couldn't really go anywhere else and things of that nature.
He was real instrumental in that.
joe rogan
Those Hugh Heffern days are probably pretty fucking wild.
Because that guy just had a bunch of people over his house to party.
And had a magazine.
Everybody thought of Playboy as just being naked people, which it was.
But it was also interesting interviews.
I read a book once that was the best of the Playboy interviews.
Somebody gave it to me, a buddy of mine, like, check this out.
brian moses
There's like Kerouac in there, like a bunch of people in there.
joe rogan
Sinatra was a big one.
brian moses
Yeah.
A contributor?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What's this?
Sammy Davis After Dark.
So this is on the Playboy channel?
jamie vernon
I think so.
This is at Playboy Mansion.
brian moses
No, it was like a network show.
unidentified
Wow.
Look at these people.
joe rogan
They're from another planet.
Stop for a second.
Can you imagine if we had a way of using a telescope into space to check out another planet?
When we saw America in 1950, we'd be like, oh my god, look at these dorks.
brian moses
Right, though?
Separated, dressed up, I mean...
joe rogan
Oh my god, so weird.
And also, like, no technology.
Like, almost cave people.
We're like a couple of generations removed from straight barbarism.
Like, in 1920, how many years of electricity are we even talking about?
Is it a hundred?
brian moses
I think it's still what kerosene, right?
joe rogan
What year?
Like what year did electricity get distributed across the entire country?
jamie vernon
It depends what city you're in because a lot of places didn't have it.
joe rogan
Well, let's go with Chicago.
jamie vernon
Chicago World Fair is like 1898. They sort of showed it off.
I mean, they had it, but they showed it off.
joe rogan
So that's almost 1900. This is only 50, 60 years later.
That ain't shit, man.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
That ain't shit.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
That's such a small window of time, and all of a sudden we have electric fucking record players?
brian moses
Yeah, we're doing everything now.
joe rogan
What?
brian moses
Yeah, we're going to have flying cars within like three years?
freddie gibbs
I hope not.
joe rogan
But I mean, between those 60 years, between no electricity and then movies, Chicago World's Fair, 1893. Wow.
1893, President Grover Cleveland pushed a button that lit nearly 100,000 incandescent lamps illuminating the city.
Demonstrating how electricity will forever change the nation, making it readily available to residents everywhere.
Wow, can you imagine being alive the day they hit the switch?
brian moses
I mean, that's it.
joe rogan
No electricity ever.
No electricity ever.
And then all of a sudden, ka-chunk!
brian moses
Well, that creates nightlife, right?
In essence, right?
jamie vernon
That's what it looked like.
I think that's what they lit up.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, nigga.
If not, you was riding around in your buggy holding your goddamn lanterns.
brian moses
Right.
Or, yeah, you weren't.
joe rogan
But you know what the problem is?
As soon as they turn that on, you stop seeing the stars.
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
That's the real mindfuck.
The biggest advancement in human technological history is electricity, because it allowed all the other advancements to come out of it, whether it's electronics or whatever the fuck it is.
Everything has to be powered by electricity.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But when you turn it on, you can't see the stars anymore.
So you get confused.
So people only focus on their tasks.
It's almost like a little drug.
Like a little sedative drug that keeps us from seeing the cosmos.
So you only see like a blank slate.
brian moses
That would change human DNA, wouldn't it?
joe rogan
Oh my god!
We're so less concerned about space and the fact that we're hurling through it.
I think any civilization before light I think when they didn't have light, they would look up and they would go, what?
Like this.
This is what they would see.
brian moses
Right.
unidentified
Shit.
freddie gibbs
Fuck them stars.
I need my iPhone charged.
Fuck the cosmos.
brian moses
Should I see these hoes on Instagram?
joe rogan
I see your point as well.
And I think you're making some very valid points.
No, I want my phone charged too.
I don't want to live like a fucking K person.
You know, I like getting my email.
I think what we need to do is figure out like a one holiday year where everybody shuts the lights off.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
And just see the stars.
freddie gibbs
Niggas gonna get robbed.
brian moses
That's the purge, Joe.
joe rogan
That is the purge.
unidentified
I was saying that as soon as I was saying it, I was like, Joe, that sounds like the purge.
joe rogan
What is this, buddy?
jamie vernon
I was just reading about that vanishment they called it in Chicago.
It was a pastime where people would disappear, things could happen at night, and then that ruined this...
The lighting up.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Many unsolved murders occurred in Chicago.
brian moses
Oh my goodness.
joe rogan
Yeah, see dude, you can't allow- Turn the lights on?
brian moses
Oh shit, look at all these dead bodies.
joe rogan
You can't give people a purge day.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
Hell no.
They want a purge week.
And they want a purge month.
Fuck you, we're playing purge.
brian moses
Black history month started with a day, and then it was a week, and now it's a whole two weeks.
freddie gibbs
It was a black history day?
unidentified
Yeah, it was a day, then it was a week, and now it's a month.
joe rogan
You know when you guys pay attention to shit like when they make laws where you can steal as much as 900 bucks worth of stuff.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
And then we won't even arrest you.
So people just go, okay.
And they just walk out of stores and steal 900 bucks worth of stuff.
What kind of message is that?
brian moses
That's like LA right now.
joe rogan
I know it's crazy.
But it's like, who came up with that idea and did you think that shit through at all?
And why are you still doing it?
Like, imagine if you did anything else like that.
Imagine if you said, like, how long has that pan been on the stove?
Five minutes?
I think I can put my hand in it.
I think I'm okay.
And you didn't, like...
You put your hand out of there.
But if you're like, I'm just going to keep it and see how this turns out.
That's what they're doing.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
That's what they're doing right now.
They're letting people just steal things.
brian moses
All the time.
Right back on the street.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You obviously have a real problem.
Do you want this to be like this?
brian moses
That's what we keep asking in LA. What's going on?
joe rogan
When you see like a thousand tents.
brian moses
Jail is packed, man.
unidentified
Jail is packed?
freddie gibbs
Jail is packed, man.
They letting your ass out real quick.
brian moses
See?
freddie gibbs
Especially if you get COVID. You're like, man, I got COVID, man.
I know a lot of niggas that came up on COVID. I'm like, damn, nigga, you snitch?
I'm like, nah, nigga, COVID-19.
Snitching on COVID, yeah.
unidentified
They let a lot of people out really early with COVID. They did.
freddie gibbs
A lot of people out.
brian moses
The crime rate is up.
unidentified
The crime rate is up in Los Angeles.
joe rogan
Why do you think that people mismanage things?
Do you think it's a conspiracy?
Do you think they want a certain amount of chaos?
brian moses
That pandemic did a lot of crazy things to people.
I've never seen what happened to humanity in America like I've seen what happened during the pandemic lockdown.
joe rogan
To their minds, right?
brian moses
Everybody's a little bit more nuts on the coast.
joe rogan
Were there a little bit more angry at random shit that goes on that doesn't necessarily make sense?
There was a certain amount of ridiculousness that would be attached to getting mad about things that weren't really that infuriating.
And then, over time, it seems like the more safety people have, the more they come up with shit that pisses them off.
brian moses
So it's just an excuse to get pissed off?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think people like finding enemies and anger other than themselves.
brian moses
It's interesting.
joe rogan
I think it's a natural thing.
I think we got two things going on simultaneously that we talked about earlier.
We got the tribal thing where we all, every human on this planet originated from We originated from a small group of people trying to defend themselves against other small groups of people that were trying to steal resources.
Until they figured out agriculture and how to compound cities together.
That's all relatively new, man.
According to these people that study the human genome, it takes like 10,000 years To see, like, these big changes in your DNA. We have, like, the DNA of people that lived thousands and thousands of years ago.
They'd be identical to us.
brian moses
Generational fucking trauma, yeah.
joe rogan
And they all have these imprinted memories of going to war with neighbors.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Do you know how, like, when the dark, like, every child, no matter where you live, when it's dark, what are you scared of?
brian moses
Monsters.
joe rogan
Monsters.
You know why?
Because we used to get eaten by cats.
We were afraid of lions and jaguars and leopards and big cats that would get us out of our houses, our shelters.
brian moses
We weren't top of the food chain, right?
joe rogan
We weren't top of the food chain.
brian moses
But we invented weapons and we became that, right?
joe rogan
We became top of the food chain.
But along the way, we developed these memories.
And that's why little kids are scared of monsters.
There's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake.
He wrote about this.
He was on my podcast way, way back in the day.
Really interesting guy.
But he wrote about this, that this is the reason why these people have these memories and these fears.
It's genetically driven.
That's the same thing with tribalism.
That's the thing that keeps us all from really connecting with each other.
To realize everybody, whether you're from Sweden or Africa or China, we're just...
The only thing that can separate us is communication.
If we all just figured out a way where we can all look at things rationally and say, there's no reason for us to ever shoot missiles at each other.
Nobody!
brian moses
This is for animals to try and kill us.
joe rogan
Imagine if aliens were invading.
Reagan talked about that shit in the 1980s.
How quickly we would abandon all of our issues with each other if the human race is being attacked by an alien race from another planet.
brian moses
Right.
That was in Watchmen, wasn't it?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
Like an alien octopus or something like that came down and the whole human race just formed together.
joe rogan
What was that in?
brian moses
Watchmen.
joe rogan
Oh, the Watchmen?
Yeah, on HBO? Oh, I didn't watch the HBO one.
I watched the movie.
brian moses
No, it's better than the movie.
joe rogan
Really?
brian moses
It's the best series I saw before the pandemic, yeah.
Ew, Regina King killed it.
joe rogan
There's almost too many fucking things to watch.
brian moses
I know, but this one's good, bro.
Okay, I'll watch it.
joe rogan
Well, I just finished Ozark, so I got some room.
brian moses
This one will fuck you up, though.
It's good.
Real good, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I watch my new show, Bust Down.
brian moses
Hey!
joe rogan
What's that?
freddie gibbs
Bust Down is a new show I'm on Peacock, Jack Knight, Sam J. So Peacock, it's a streaming NBC version?
brian moses
Yeah, it's like their HBO Max.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, pretty much.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's so many of them.
freddie gibbs
That comes out when?
March 10th?
brian moses
March 10th, yeah.
Bust Down's going to be dope.
It's a culture changer.
It's good.
joe rogan
What is it?
freddie gibbs
It's a comedy about a casino in Gary, Indiana, actually.
I played the manager of the casino.
It's comedy, dawg.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
I'm sliding into this comedy lane right now, man.
joe rogan
Look at you, Freddie.
brian moses
Bro, I saw the first two episodes.
I mean, Jack Knight, Sam J, Langston Kermit, Chris Redd.
Congratulations.
freddie gibbs
Shout out to Langston, man.
brian moses
That's going to be a hit, man.
And Freddie is, I mean, if you've never seen Freddie Gibbs act to be funny, you're about to see it.
joe rogan
I can imagine you can do whatever the fuck you want, Freddie.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, definitely.
I got a lot of big roles coming up right now.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, I'm excited to see you do a bunch of different shit.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, man.
I'm doing comedy, action shit.
brian moses
You know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
I'm in a vampire movie that's about to come out.
I'm in this other movie.
joe rogan
You're in a vampire movie?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
What the fuck is that?
freddie gibbs
Oh, man.
It's going to be crazy, man.
joe rogan
What is it?
freddie gibbs
It's going to be crazy, dawg.
It's about some vampire cops in LAPD. It's going to be wild.
joe rogan
Vampire Cops and LAPD. Yeah, it's gonna be wild.
LAPD's in a weird spot now, huh?
brian moses
They're in a weird spot, bro.
freddie gibbs
All cops in a weird spot.
joe rogan
All cops.
All cops.
How long before that balances out?
freddie gibbs
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
It's not good.
Not good, kids.
freddie gibbs
I don't know, man.
There's been too many shootings, man, in the past.
joe rogan
Too many everything.
freddie gibbs
Forever, yeah.
brian moses
Kids ain't in school, man.
joe rogan
I just watched a video of a cop suplexing some drunk guy on concrete, and it was so disturbing.
I was like, that's so goddamn dangerous.
And if you could suplex a guy who's some drunk dude who's resisting, doesn't want you to arrest him, you could also just trip him.
You don't have to suplex him.
This guy hoists him up in the air.
And suplexes them.
Like, that is so unnecessary.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
So dangerous.
If you just do a dude like that, and he hits his head, he's a dead man.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
A dead man.
brian moses
Right.
I mean...
joe rogan
Most likely a dead man.
Like, most likely.
Like, very...
I mean, I don't know what the odds are of you getting suplexed onto the fucking concrete, of you not having a crushed skull.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
That's bullshit.
joe rogan
But at the very least, you're getting fucked up.
Yeah, that's it.
So here's what it is.
So this guy is resisting.
He doesn't want to get arrested.
We'll play it out here.
The guy's like, no, leave me alone, leave me alone.
He's dork.
He doesn't want to get arrested.
Look at this guy.
brian moses
Boom!
joe rogan
I'm telling you, man.
That is on the concrete.
Knocks him 100% out cold.
freddie gibbs
The dude looked drunk anyway.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
Totally unnecessary.
freddie gibbs
That's a white dude?
joe rogan
A white dude did it to a white dude.
freddie gibbs
Oh, ain't that bad.
joe rogan
So here it is.
brian moses
Freddie!
joe rogan
I'm so glad you're alive.
I'm so glad you're you, Freddie.
brian moses
Oh my goodness.
joe rogan
Listen, man, you're the perfect guy to come in and talk about all this shit.
When Moses was like, you want Freddie Gibbs and I to come in and talk to you?
I'm like, fuck yeah.
I'm like, that's as real as it gets.
brian moses
I got the Agent Smith coming after my man.
I got to come get him.
joe rogan
Listen, I love you.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, man, I'm like the nigga Morpheus, man.
brian moses
I'm Morpheus.
freddie gibbs
Come down, man.
joe rogan
I appreciate both of you, and I love you, Moses.
brian moses
Thank you, man.
Always, man.
joe rogan
I always love you.
What you brought to Roast Battle was like a comfortable friendship sort of vibe that allowed people to be savages against each other.
brian moses
Gotta be a straight man, yeah.
I say I'm just like a point guard.
joe rogan
But you kept it friendly and nice.
Like everybody knew that when they were going to engage with you, it was going to be friendly and nice.
You're not volatile.
You're a nice guy.
brian moses
No, I'm not going to come at it.
joe rogan
Yeah, so like you hosting that fucking show where people say the most evil shit to each other sometimes.
Sometimes we look at each other and we bite our hands.
brian moses
Right.
I mean, and I'll say it again, the whole punch and I'm punching down thing, I get away with it because I'm black.
Because there's a lot of racial jokes, there's a lot of, I mean, there's all kinds of xenophobia, misogyny, all kinds of stuff.
I mean, I'm not a woman, but I'm saying there's a lot of racial jokes that go over in that thing.
And, you know, they look at you as like, are you going to get mad?
And you're like, it's all good because we consented to it.
And everybody's like, you know what, man, since you're smiling, we're all going to smile.
freddie gibbs
Has anybody ever got mad at a rose battle?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I've watched people get mad.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
Because somebody said this.
It was like, when you get hit with something you didn't think you'd prepare for, you're like, I know you thought that about me.
You know what I mean?
And you're like, damn, I didn't know I had, like, you know, big face.
Or you thought about my acne like that.
Or, you know, I got a little dick or whatever the fuck they're saying about you.
You know, it's like people come hard after your brother who's dead, after your family member who's dead.
joe rogan
They do.
They don't give a fuck.
No matter.
Your dad just died.
brian moses
Great.
joe rogan
First joke.
brian moses
Monsters.
joe rogan
No bullshit.
I watched...
I mean, I don't even want to say what I watched, but the first time I watched it, I was like, wow, I go, this is crazy.
Boys and girls going after each other.
But the thing that I thought is, like, this is like a joke-writing exercise.
brian moses
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's always the baseline.
It's a joke-writer showcase.
joe rogan
It's not a thing where you're trying to be just mean to a person for no reason.
Like, you're only doing it if it's like...
Look, it's not nice to feel that if the punchline is on you, but don't sign up for it.
Don't sign up for it.
brian moses
If you don't want to get kicked in the head, don't fight.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You don't want to fight in the UFC? Yeah, good.
Don't do it.
But if you do, you might get kicked in the fucking face.
brian moses
Right.
There's so many comics who come in there and they're just like, I just hate this, but, you know, I gotta do it.
You know what I mean?
It's almost like you feel like a bartender.
You're like, oh, bro, you can't have no more drinks.
joe rogan
Let me tell you the most frustrating thing for me.
There are people that do your show and they come up with hilarious jokes to attack other comedians.
They know are coming for them.
So they only got...
How many days do you give them before they know that they're going to roast?
brian moses
It depends.
I mean, some cats, it's two days, it's a week, it's a month.
joe rogan
What's the most they've ever had?
Like a month?
brian moses
Like a month, yeah.
joe rogan
Normal, what's like average?
brian moses
Average is like a month.
joe rogan
Okay, so a month is good.
freddie gibbs
You give a nigga a month research on it?
brian moses
Yeah, hey bro, you know the rap battlers do that too?
joe rogan
Exactly.
brian moses
They get a year to write, a month to write.
unidentified
A year?
brian moses
Yeah, like rap battlers?
Yeah, that's not freestyling.
freddie gibbs
Oh nigga, I can get up there and roast a nigga on the spot.
I don't need no time.
I'll fuck a nigga up, man.
brian moses
Yeah, I mean, we get some freestylers up there, but for the most part, those are like street jokes, you know?
So, like, a guy who writes, it's like, they come with horror.
joe rogan
Well, when you're writing for your fucking history, your personality, and your flaws, and even your pros.
You actually want your pros.
brian moses
You want the time for these guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want the time.
freddie gibbs
That's real shit.
joe rogan
Well, when you watch it, and sometimes they hit, like, a really clever note, and you're like...
That's a kind of art.
It's a different kind of art.
It's a subset of comedy the way that like blues is like rock and roll is a subset of blues.
freddie gibbs
You do got to prepare for them motherfuckers.
They vicious.
I agree.
You're right.
brian moses
You were going to roast battle one time.
I was like, you better write something.
joe rogan
It's a kind of art.
It's part of comedy.
But it's a part of comedy the same way country music is a part of rock and roll.
It's kind of connected, but it's a little different.
brian moses
The girl who wrote the Rose Battle book, Julie Sebaugh, she says it's another pillar now in the whole genre of comedy.
joe rogan
I agree.
brian moses
Sketch, stand-up, improv.
joe rogan
Here's the one that's missing.
brian moses
Props.
joe rogan
Carrot Top got so goddamn successful, everybody else abandoned props.
brian moses
Right, he's the guy, yeah.
Like, nobody's gonna be like, oh, he's not Carrot Top.
joe rogan
Exactly, you can't have props.
freddie gibbs
Gallagher had the best props to me.
joe rogan
Pretty good props.
Sledgehammer.
Yeah, everybody got plastic.
Plastic sheets, they would cover each other.
He would smash fruit.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, my dad used to watch Gallagher.
brian moses
It'd be funny if Louis starts doing that, just starts jerking up in front of the crowd, and they got the shrink wrap over him.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if he did that?
Oh my god.
brian moses
That would be funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you did it on Patreon.
brian moses
Right.
They asked for it.
joe rogan
Or, what's he on?
OnlyFans?
brian moses
Mm-hmm.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man, Louis CK's OnlyFans.
joe rogan
OnlyFans comedy.
brian moses
Be lit.
We'll do that tomorrow.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
OnlyFans?
He'll be jacking off all day.
brian moses
Yeah.
Oh, well.
If people are paying, but they want to see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you had a choice, be poor or let people pay to watch you jack off.
brian moses
Dog, it's shit.
I'm telling you, that pandemic lockdown changed the game.
There's so many small business...
Ladies and men out there who were doing the OnlyFans thing, I mean, they make a living off of it, bro.
freddie gibbs
OnlyFans made a lot of money.
brian moses
How many single moms I know who were like, yeah, I quit my job, but I'm killing it right now.
freddie gibbs
Playing with their pussy at home.
brian moses
I support the small business.
OnlyFans, you chase the game.
joe rogan
Here's the real question.
What's more embarrassing?
What sucks more?
What makes you feel worse?
Working a 12-hour shift at Denny's?
Or an hour in front of your computer?
brian moses
Dog, I'm not working at Denny's.
freddie gibbs
I ain't working at Denny's.
Showing your butt.
joe rogan
Comedians flock to OnlyFans as the comedy world clutches pearls.
As the pandemic shutters comedy venues nationwide, female comics are trying out the not-safe-for-work subscription site.
But can stand-up culture handle the change?
brian moses
Who writes this?
I would much rather do that than fucking telemarketing.
jamie vernon
I just typed in comedy and see what was there.
brian moses
What was your day job before you started killing us?
joe rogan
Look at this.
But can stand-up culture handle the change?
Who the fuck are you?
Who's running this?
unidentified
We can't handle it, Brian!
joe rogan
You can't handle the truth!
brian moses
I can't.
joe rogan
Imagine.
Can it handle the change?
Oh, I don't know.
You think it's gonna be okay?
freddie gibbs
Fuck that.
I'd rather be jacking off than working at Denny's.
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
Like, would you really be upset if one of your friends used to be a secretary and she hated her job and she made, you know, what does the secretary make?
brian moses
I don't even fuck.
What is that?
Are they still?
freddie gibbs
Not enough.
brian moses
Yeah.
Are they called personal assistants now, right?
Not secretaries anymore?
joe rogan
I'm a bit of executive assistants.
freddie gibbs
Well, maybe they could make enough.
You could be a paid secretary or executive assistant, but you could probably just hate your boss.
brian moses
I mean, listen, we're talking about sex work, right?
So, I mean, it just depends on if that's embarrassing to you.
freddie gibbs
There's teachers and shit that got OnlyFans on the side.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
Yeah.
Cops can't because you get fired.
joe rogan
She could put a gopher mask on and masturbate in front of a camera and make way more money than she makes at Sears.
Why wouldn't she do that?
Why wouldn't she do that?
brian moses
There's a girl who wears clown makeup and gets fucked or fucks herself.
joe rogan
Of course there is.
There's probably a hundred of them.
There's probably like anti-clown girl masturbate lady.
brian moses
Yeah.
And they're making dough.
I mean, subscriptions for what?
Yeah, for almost like, you know, streaming prices.
joe rogan
100%.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, hopefully they don't get to that, but if times get hard, I'll fuck on the OnlyFans.
unidentified
Fuck.
brian moses
If times get hard.
Yo, just do that.
I'll just do it.
Shit.
I mean, yeah, instead of like, yeah, I was telemarketing when I started stand-up, so yeah, I'd much rather do that.
freddie gibbs
Me too, I did that bullshit.
I used to call niggas and be like, yeah, sir, would you like to get a Discover card?
joe rogan
They'd be like nigger please Look I get no car for your black ass Fuck you trash Do you remember the Columbia record and tape club no Oh yeah, the Columbia House?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, we did like 50 CDs for one cent.
joe rogan
And then afterwards you had to be a part of a subscription, but nobody paid them.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, yeah, I signed my mama for that shit.
She beat my ass.
joe rogan
I want to know, what kind of Ponzi scheme was that?
Because where did all that money go?
Who made the money?
freddie gibbs
They sent you a bill.
brian moses
Everybody got free CDs.
freddie gibbs
That's how niggas got the motherfuckers.
You remember when Girls Gone Wild came out?
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
And they just took your credit card number.
You was just getting videos and naked shit every month.
brian moses
Wouldn't even stop it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you couldn't get disconnected.
You'd have to change your credit card.
brian moses
Just crush your interest rates.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you ordering a Girls Gone Wild.
Man, my daddy had a Girls Gone Wild coming to the house every motherfucking week.
joe rogan
Well, if it wasn't that, I don't know about Girls Gone Wild.
I have no knowledge about that.
But if there was something else, there was a bunch of different things that they did, like different self-help subscriptions you would sign up for.
The early days of credit cards, no one knew what was going on.
brian moses
Right.
Credit cards aren't that old, right?
They're like from the 80s.
joe rogan
I used to play pool with a guy who went to jail for making fake American Express cards.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, his name was International Sal.
freddie gibbs
Oh, shit.
That sounds like a nigga that need to go to.
brian moses
He was probably doing that.
joe rogan
International Sal was a big pool gambler.
brian moses
How many pool gamblers did you know?
joe rogan
I knew a lot.
Yeah, I was a misfit when I was in my 20s, and when I went from Boston to New York, I didn't have any friends, and I started hanging out at this pool hall, and I met a bunch of dudes at the pool hall.
A buddy of mine was a comic, my friend John Tobin, who also was a manager at this pool hall.
He would do a shift.
And he was a comic, and we would hang out there.
And we all, like, he and I would like, this is a wild, crazy place.
Some really fucking interesting people.
A lot of professional gamblers and a lot of addicts and a lot of people that were just like homeless folks who would just come in and hang out.
So that was like my early 20s.
brian moses
Okay.
Pool gambling.
Damn, people still did that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, when I was in New York City in like the early 90s, there was a ton of dudes who would just be hanging around pool halls trying to get games and gambling.
And they didn't have any jobs.
They slept on park benches.
They slept under pool tables.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
For the love of some fucking billiards.
joe rogan
It wasn't that.
It's just like they could kind of barely get by that way, and that was better than a job.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
They would rather get by that way, barely, than wear a suit and show up at a fucking office.
freddie gibbs
Well, let me ask you a question.
Would you rather be shooting pool or jacking off in front of your camera?
joe rogan
It depends on how much you can make shooting pool.
I mean, what kind of money are we talking about?
Everybody says, I would never jerk off in front of a camera.
You wouldn't jerk off in front of a camera for $89 billion.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you would.
joe rogan
You'd be like, wait, for how long?
freddie gibbs
I'd jack off in front of a camera for $89,000.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You'd be like...
brian moses
Bro, I'm telling you.
freddie gibbs
Write it right now, nigga.
brian moses
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
Well, $89.
There's guys who do it for $89.
brian moses
There was a Reddit thread about the value of semen for alive U.S. presidents, and Obama's was the most.
freddie gibbs
What?
brian moses
He should sell it.
joe rogan
He should get on eBay.
brian moses
Dog, I'm saying.
joe rogan
Imagine if Michelle left Barack and he just started selling his sperm.
brian moses
I'm saying!
Slinging cum?
joe rogan
If you're a famous guy, if you're a famous guy, like The Rock, if The Rock wanted to sell his cum, damn much he gets...
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
Imagine.
Just imagine.
Just imagine.
I'm not saying you should buy it.
I'm not saying you should.
I don't support this in any way.
But imagine the world.
Look, if we can imagine Nazis, we can imagine a world where the rock sales has come.
freddie gibbs
What's the price of nut, though?
joe rogan
Well, it's negotiable.
He can only do two a day.
brian moses
Who's evaluating it being like, well, this is pretty good.
joe rogan
The market, same as Sotheby's.
And then buy a painting.
brian moses
Uncut gems and cut gems.
freddie gibbs
Right.
Like, how much can I sell a ounce of nut for?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
If you want to see a fucking car auction, those Barrett-Jackson car auctions, it's all about demand.
It's all about demand.
brian moses
God.
joe rogan
We got one of The Rock's nuts from 2017. That was a good year.
Let's go!
brian moses
That was a good year.
joe rogan
He signed The Rock.
unidentified
Signed.
joe rogan
He signs the fucking test tube.
It's like they open the jar.
It's all fucking dry ice, steam.
By the rocks cum.
Cryogenically frozen, the rocks cum.
That's worth a million dollars.
So in my mind, 100% it's a million dollars at least.
We're being conservative here, okay?
If The Rock can jerk off twice a day, he makes $2 million a day minimum.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
That's a chick.
brian moses
Dog.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
I mean, you try to sell your catalog.
joe rogan
$60 million a year.
A month, rather.
$60 million a month.
freddie gibbs
I think about how many times I jacked off this week.
joe rogan
I've been bawling.
brian moses
I've been bawling, literally.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if The Rock jerked off twice a day and sold it and he made billions of dollars?
brian moses
He'd be the new Elon Musk.
freddie gibbs
This is what I want to know.
Who will take all these goddamn kids, though?
unidentified
Who's responsible?
freddie gibbs
Does he have to give a percentage of that to child support?
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
That's how they get a nigga.
brian moses
That's like the lottery, right?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that's how they get a nigga.
brian moses
Child support bringing your whole worth down?
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Because you technically are the father.
Just because you didn't experience pleasure, that is your child.
Right.
They would appeal to you on a moral level.
That is your child.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it's your child.
Just like in that one movie, She Hate Me, with Anthony Mackie, when he fucked all them hoes, when he was giving his sperm out.
You seen that?
joe rogan
I didn't.
freddie gibbs
You gotta watch that.
brian moses
Well, then I would make sure it might come a spoil first.
Like, it's gotta be dead.
joe rogan
Throw hot sauce on it.
brian moses
Spoil.
joe rogan
Isn't that what Drake did?
Didn't he throw hot sauce in his condom?
brian moses
Yeah, that was like the rumor.
I don't know if it's real, but yeah.
joe rogan
Of course it's not real.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
It's like the Steven Seagal story from Ukraine.
Like, just because it's not real doesn't mean it's not funny and you shouldn't tell it.
brian moses
That's awesome.
So you're going to sell a bunch of fake dope, fake nut Like you still sell basil and oregano as weed?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
You can't do that.
You gotta be a man.
brian moses
You gotta be a man.
joe rogan
You gotta sell your real cum.
And as you get older, it's like, you know, it's more precious because you don't have as much.
It's like diamonds.
It's like De Beers.
I keep that shit squirreled away for a reason.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you get some of that Frank Thomas from Nugenics.
You'll be alright.
joe rogan
Sold my cum on NFT. Yeah, cum is only valuable when a woman wants it.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Right, which is like, how much time do you, at what point in time do you, like, you can keep it?
brian moses
Auctioning off cum.
joe rogan
There's certain people that can do it.
brian moses
Right, it's a select few, right.
You're in that group, bro.
joe rogan
If a woman could show an NFT of her asshole, like, how many women can make money doing that?
There's a lot.
freddie gibbs
Ugh.
joe rogan
I know.
I know.
It's gross.
But it's the same thing as who's buying cum.
Like, what are people doing?
brian moses
What are people doing?
freddie gibbs
Motherfuckers will buy that shit.
brian moses
What are people doing?
unidentified
They're distracted.
joe rogan
They're distracted by all kinds of nonsense.
brian moses
I mean, that's crazy.
joe rogan
People out there.
brian moses
Because that would be like one of the greatest heists ever if you could get Barack Obama's cum.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
freddie gibbs
That sounds so fucking horrible.
joe rogan
It sounds terrible.
brian moses
It does.
joe rogan
But imagine a world where that wasn't a moral quandary.
It wasn't a giant issue.
freddie gibbs
He's sorry, Michelle.
brian moses
I'm not saying it's going to happen.
joe rogan
Bill Clinton might be like, fuck it.
freddie gibbs
And look, you can take a nigga nut.
That ain't guaranteed your kid going to be a president.
He motherfucker might be a crackhead at a pool hall.
You dig what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
True.
Most likely.
brian moses
Who's else?
Obama?
joe rogan
Most likely not going to be a president.
Most likely, there's no way he could be a president.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, what fucking percent?
The president is like the number one least likely job you would ever have.
brian moses
Right, though.
joe rogan
It's only one of them.
Yeah.
If you said, like, there's no guarantee that if the only problem is the last name.
If he gets the last name.
brian moses
It's Obama.
joe rogan
Get the last name.
Like, the Kennedys?
Yeah, that Kennedy last name.
You know, there was JFK, there was Bobby Kennedy.
You know, how many Bushes have we had?
freddie gibbs
I'm shooting my nut out there for money.
I want to be anonymous.
I don't want to know them motherfuckers.
Fuck them kids.
brian moses
I mean, there are sperm banks.
I guess they already do this.
There are sperm banks.
freddie gibbs
You bought it, bitch.
You take that motherfucker.
You bought the nut.
You take what come with it.
brian moses
You bought it.
freddie gibbs
You bought this motherfucker.
brian moses
You broke it, you bought it.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that's what I would have to do.
I have to sign a motherfucking NDA.
joe rogan
Yeah, NDA. NDA.
freddie gibbs
A nut disclosure agreement, bitch.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
That's perfect.
unidentified
Fuck them kids.
brian moses
Fuck them kids.
freddie gibbs
They can't have a name.
brian moses
Hell no.
freddie gibbs
You can buy a name for a separate fee.
You can be a give.
That little motherfucker can be my name.
joe rogan
Imagine if you just jerked off into a cup for a living.
That's your move.
And you realize, listen, I can make $1,000 a load.
I don't have to talk to nobody.
I just have to jerk.
Fuck a job.
I mean...
Your jizz is worth at least a thousand dollars.
freddie gibbs
But I had to take a week or two off because, you know what I'm saying, I ain't going to want to fuck no hoes.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I know, that's going to be a problem.
freddie gibbs
Post-nut clarity is a motherfucker.
joe rogan
You have to decide how much money you want to make in a week.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You don't have to fucking do it every day.
But if you thought about, like, if there was an ingredient, if you wanted a child, and there was an ingredient that you can add to an egg that would make a person 100% of the time, How much is that worth?
brian moses
Damn.
freddie gibbs
Maybe we could make it synthetic.
You don't need real nuts.
joe rogan
Bro, that's how the robots take over.
That's how the next version of humans with no emotions take over.
You don't want that.
What we are right now, we're flexible.
We can get along.
freddie gibbs
They're already making test tube babies and shit with eye colors and shit like that.
joe rogan
That's what I hear, but I don't know if that's true because I don't fucking research it.
brian moses
We're the misinformation crew.
Come on now.
freddie gibbs
Maybe the misinformation.
brian moses
But Musk is building those humanoid robots.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He's not building humanoid robots.
brian moses
What are they?
joe rogan
Where'd you hear that?
brian moses
Can we look that up?
joe rogan
Elon?
brian moses
Yeah, Elon Musk.
They said they're putting more money into robots, and they're pushing back on Tesla production.
joe rogan
Well, he's doing a bunch of stuff, right?
One thing he's doing is this Neuralink.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I don't want that.
joe rogan
It says Tesla is working on humanoid robots.
freddie gibbs
I don't want that.
joe rogan
A prototype is supposedly coming sometime next year.
unidentified
I don't want that.
brian moses
What?
joe rogan
When is this?
brian moses
Oh, I'm saying.
joe rogan
Oh, this is like last year, 2021. He's been saying this.
freddie gibbs
No, that's kind of, we don't need that.
joe rogan
I don't think that, this is where I got it confused.
I don't think they're like abandoning anything else.
freddie gibbs
Why do we need it?
brian moses
No, they said they were going to push back.
Yeah, because he wants to really work on these.
freddie gibbs
But I don't understand.
Why do we need a robot person?
brian moses
We've seen all the movies.
We know what happens.
freddie gibbs
I don't know that motherfucker too strong.
brian moses
Terminator 2, come on now.
freddie gibbs
Fuck you up.
I don't want it.
joe rogan
So he's gonna push back because he wants more resources for the robots?
brian moses
I don't know if it's resources, but I just read it literally on BBC last week.
joe rogan
So what did he say?
He said that what they want to do is develop new robots.
Like, what is he saying?
He said they'll handle tasks that are unsafe, repetitive, or boring.
Oh my god, that's how it begins.
Like, jerking people off.
What's more unsafe, repetitive, or boring than jerking people off?
brian moses
The number one death in America is your dick getting ripped off by a robot?
joe rogan
If they're all in a room, if they're on a glass room, executive room, and they go, do we want to make money or not?
Are we playing games here?
We need these hot robots that would jerk guys off.
Let's cut the shit.
Let's just have them wander through the streets.
freddie gibbs
Well, they got them sex dolls.
brian moses
New slaves.
freddie gibbs
With the sex dolls, if you turn them into robots, I wouldn't fuck no robot pussy.
joe rogan
You wouldn't fuck a robot pussy until it became seductive.
brian moses
I mean, I've seen Ex Machina.
joe rogan
Until it became so interesting.
unidentified
Oh no.
joe rogan
Until it became so soft and supple and it looked you in the eyes, Freddy.
And it didn't care about anything but you.
And just start stroking the back of your neck.
And you're like, is this a robot?
What is happening?
brian moses
Right, I mean, they're gonna make it better.
unidentified
This robot with a perfect face that speaks to your DNA. They made that one movie.
freddie gibbs
What's it called?
brian moses
Ex Machina.
joe rogan
Ex Machina.
Yeah, but that lady was see-through.
And that guy still wanted a fucker.
Imagine what...
freddie gibbs
Imagine a see-through pussy.
joe rogan
Imagine one that wasn't at all any different than you biologically.
It was just created from a computer.
freddie gibbs
And you would fuck it.
brian moses
Like weird science.
joe rogan
Yeah, weird science.
But here's my thing.
freddie gibbs
I would have fucked shit out of that weird science.
brian moses
See, so you're saying the same thing.
joe rogan
By the way, she used to be married to Steven Seagal.
She was married to Steven Seagal.
freddie gibbs
She was bad as fuck.
brian moses
She was so cool.
joe rogan
Back to Steven Seagal.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What I'm saying is if they had a robot that was indistinguishable from a person.
Like our idea as a robot has to have like screws and bolts and shit.
But what if it's a robot where it's like artificial skin, artificial flesh, but all of it mirrors.
freddie gibbs
And you knew it was a robot?
And you could turn the bitch on and off whenever you want to?
joe rogan
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
freddie gibbs
Nah, I need a switch on the bitch.
joe rogan
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
freddie gibbs
Because if I could have that, I'd marry the hoe.
joe rogan
You say that, Freddie.
Freddie, this thing is not really a person, but it kind of is really close to a person.
freddie gibbs
Do it look and feel like real pussy.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Better.
freddie gibbs
Better than real pussy.
joe rogan
It's got it figured out.
Whoa.
And Freddie, Freddie.
freddie gibbs
Like some Terminator 2 pussy.
unidentified
And Freddie, it loves you.
joe rogan
It loves you.
freddie gibbs
Does it have a fuck out?
joe rogan
It loves everything about you.
freddie gibbs
I don't need that bitch to love me.
I need it to have an on and off switch.
joe rogan
But it loves everything about you.
freddie gibbs
I just need an on and off switch.
joe rogan
It wants to hug you and care for you and it's always there for you, Freddie.
freddie gibbs
I don't want that.
I just want some pussy.
brian moses
Freddie don't crave intimacy.
That's basically what he's saying here.
I don't need intimacy.
joe rogan
Maybe not from humans.
Maybe Freddie's doing a commercial for these robots like two years later.
brian moses
I mean, you almost loved me.
I was like, wow, she loves me.
I'm like, man.
joe rogan
She loves you.
brian moses
I'm so emotionally stunted.
I'm like, Jesus, this is perfect.
joe rogan
Haven't we done that kind of with dogs?
brian moses
Yeah, right.
freddie gibbs
I ain't fucking my dogs, though.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
But the love that your dog gives you, it doesn't have to be sex, but the love that your dog gives you is unmatched.
freddie gibbs
I seen a bitch kiss a wolf.
You seen that shit?
The bitch tongue.
Tongue kissing a motherfucking wolf.
joe rogan
I'm not surprised.
I'm not surprised.
freddie gibbs
I was like, what?
It was a bunch of wolves.
They came and they tongue down the bitch.
You remember I posted that shit?
brian moses
I saw that, yeah.
freddie gibbs
That shit was crazy.
I thought them wolves were going to run the train on that bitch.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Wolf pussy.
joe rogan
If a woman can have a wolf as a pet, that's like number one.
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
I don't think they was pets.
She was just in the woods fucking with some wolves.
brian moses
I mean, a wolf is cool.
freddie gibbs
What the fuck is cool about a wolf?
brian moses
You seen Game of Thrones?
freddie gibbs
Nah, I ain't eating people.
brian moses
Yeah, yeah.
freddie gibbs
I'm not fucking with no wolf, nigga.
joe rogan
Dude, you know how hilarious that is?
This conversation right here about wolves.
brian moses
That wolf is so fucking cool.
Give me a fox or a wolf.
joe rogan
Look at this crazy lady.
freddie gibbs
Man, she ain't kissing the fucking wolf.
brian moses
He's loving it, though.
His eyes are closed.
Damn, he's going in.
joe rogan
He's ready to fuck.
brian moses
He's ready.
joe rogan
Plus, she's probably got a bunch of salt and sweet stuff around her face.
He's tasting her.
And he's also letting her nervous her.
freddie gibbs
Fucking way nigga right.
joe rogan
It just takes one Do you know that during the World War one that they stopped the fighting between the Germans and the Russians to fight off wolves?
They made a truce.
There was that many wolves.
They were fighting in like They were getting shot.
They were leaving behind wounded people.
The wounded people would get attacked by wolves.
And so the wolves started figuring out that these battlegrounds, where you hear these bangs go off, that that meant that there was going to be wounded people.
Somehow or another, I don't know how wolves figure it out, but they come close to each other.
Soldiers on World War I's Eastern Front fought a common enemy, wolves.
So these people would get hurt.
They would get hurt.
And then these wolves would show up and just start eating these people alive.
freddie gibbs
Like, fuck that.
joe rogan
Guy gets shot in the leg and can't run away and a wolf just takes him down and eats him dick first.
That was real.
Dick first.
unidentified
Dick first.
brian moses
So the military, we need that.
U.S. military needs just like a pack of wolves.
joe rogan
Dude, but this is a real thing that happened.
Like, imagine how crazy it is.
The Russians and the Germans.
There's an article on Meat Eater about it.
Because they kind of question...
Like, I told this to Steve Rinelli.
He's like, what?
That's crazy.
And then it turns out it's true.
Which is...
I'm not 100% on those.
I'm like 8 out of 10 on those.
unidentified
Sometimes I got some stories that is just straight up horseshit.
joe rogan
But that one turned out to be real.
They really did have a ceasefire between the Nazis and the Soviets.
brian moses
That's, I mean, that's beautiful.
It's wild shit.
joe rogan
The Russians and the Germans decide, I don't think it was the Nazis back then, right?
Not Nazis, sorry.
My apologies.
The Germans and the Soviets in World War I, and they talked to each other and they said, we gotta fight these fucking wolves.
freddie gibbs
All they had to do was send that bitch down there to kiss all them motherfuckers.
joe rogan
Though seemingly far-fetched, it turns out these claims are mostly accurate.
Historians estimate that soldiers killed hundreds of wolves during the war and that the surviving wolves fled to escape a carnage the like of which they had never encountered.
So this is just these soldiers decided, for a brief moment, read this, a kind of peace spread across the battlefield even though gunshots and grenade explosions continued to ring out.
But listen to this, even though gunshots and grenade explosions are going off, at least they don't have to worry about wolves.
They're comfortable that they can just fight people.
They don't have to fight these animals that are gonna eat them.
brian moses
See, so that would create peace.
Like, okay, yeah, we're all humans and we gotta kill these other animals.
That human nature takes back over again.
joe rogan
It's like what Ronald Reagan said, we all become like a group.
We're all a community.
But that's what we're supposed to be.
freddie gibbs
A wolf will fuck you up.
brian moses
So go send some wolves to the Ukraine and Russia.
Let's get a peace treaty cracking.
joe rogan
Yeah, but wolves can't fuck with the guns we have now.
brian moses
Right, we got missiles now.
This ain't World War I. AR-15s.
joe rogan
We got drones.
We're going to send robots to fuck you up from the sky.
freddie gibbs
I'll shoot the fuck out of wolves.
brian moses
Germans used to recruit U.S. black soldiers back in World War I. Germany did?
Germany did.
They would use propaganda, like flyers, and they would pass them out to some of the black soldiers and be like, hey, you should fight for us because they don't respect you over there.
unidentified
Really?
freddie gibbs
They did that in Vietnam, too.
brian moses
There you go.
joe rogan
Well, they don't do that anymore, thankfully.
And thankfully, the government now is only honest.
freddie gibbs
So they had nigger Nazis?
brian moses
No, this was before World War II, but they definitely did have black Nazis.
freddie gibbs
They did?
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
brian moses
See?
Now this is in Watchmen.
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah.
brian moses
But I knew about this before Watchmen.
joe rogan
So it says the World War I propaganda flyer and this week's The Watchmen was real.
Wow.
Dude, that whole war was made on bullshit.
It was all the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
They made up an attack.
brian moses
There were black Nazis, though.
freddie gibbs
That's wild.
That's wild.
joe rogan
If you can get a Rachel Dolezal, you can get a black Nazi.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Don't you think?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It's just like you decide, you commit to a thing.
Whatever it is.
That white underbelly, the soft white underbelly YouTube thing I was talking about.
There's so many people there that are just so lost.
You realize that anybody could have got them.
The Moonies could have got them.
Any kind of cult could have got them.
The people get caught up in a place where they don't know what the fuck to do.
And then someone comes along and that someone has a thing that they can join.
Like a group they could be a part of.
Whatever it is.
brian moses
Hey, we're all doing this.
That seems cool.
I'm going to go do that.
joe rogan
Our fucking problems is that people have too much power over other people when they're telling them what to do.
It's just too much.
When you get a guy who can force a war with Ukraine, who can just decide he's going to mobilize all these super sophisticated high-tech jets and shoot missiles and...
brian moses
That's what they're trying to say about you and the COVID thing.
You know what I mean?
They're like, oh, he's got too much power.
Anybody who listens to Rogue and A, come on, man.
We have our own brains.
They're calling your listeners stupid.
joe rogan
Brian Moses is hitting all the hot topics today.
brian moses
Dog, I'm in.
It's my man.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Leave him alone.
He's just a comic.
You're not supposed to have an opinion.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It's like one of the rare times in history where you're not supposed to have an opinion.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You know, it's...
brian moses
When did the shift happen?
joe rogan
Like, I'm not...
I wouldn't 100% say don't listen to me in terms of, like, don't do what I do, but don't stop me from talking about what I think.
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
It's not smart.
That's not smart for any of us.
For any of us.
brian moses
We're having a conversation.
joe rogan
Everybody should be able to talk about what they think.
Let's figure this out.
If you're going to be real about it.
brian moses
It's up to them to decide.
You can't tell me what I shouldn't think if I'm listening to my man right here.
freddie gibbs
Right, you can't do my nigga like Papa John.
Put Papa John, his pizza was all right, but damn, nigga.
They fuck Papa John.
unidentified
He's still running that shit though, I'm sure he's evolved.
freddie gibbs
He's getting money.
joe rogan
He's involved in some way.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they put Shaq in there.
They put the biggest nigga they can.
Y'all that gets niggas, we gonna put the biggest nigga in the country.
brian moses
Come get this racist pizza.
freddie gibbs
Make sure your niggas eat this pizza.
Talking about the shakaroni.
Motherfucker don't want no shakaroni.
joe rogan
Shakaroni seems like...
There's a suggestion there.
brian moses
Right?
joe rogan
I mean, look at what the shape of a pepperoni is.
Like, hey, why'd you come up with that word?
freddie gibbs
Shakaroni, man.
He said, yeah, Papa John's Pizza.
unidentified
Shack.
joe rogan
I was talking to this hater at the Comedy Store one night.
It was hilarious.
It was a hilarious conversation.
Didn't make any sense.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
There was a bunch of us in the hallway and some dude just goes, I heard Shaq's dick was small.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
And I was like, compared to what?
Like, how is that even possible?
brian moses
Have you ever met him?
He's so big!
joe rogan
I mean, compared to what?
brian moses
Compared to what?
joe rogan
There's nothing on him that's small.
But you want me to assume that his dick is?
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
It's like that makes him less than you?
Like, you won.
Finally, I won.
freddie gibbs
I mean, girls and guys scarred little dick rumors all the time.
Dudes might start it.
brian moses
It's just the fact that a dude came up to you and that was what he wanted to talk to you about.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't that.
It was a bunch of us around.
It wasn't specifically me.
But I knew Shaq because I did Fear Factor with Shaq.
Shaq co-hosted an episode of Fear Factor.
Dude, I talked about it on stage.
It was like a six-year-old hanging out with his dad.
Me standing next to Shaq.
It's preposterous.
It is preposterous if we're the same thing.
He's so much bigger than me.
Dude, you gotta see the video of him.
Jamie, see if you can find it.
He was a fan of Fear Factor.
So it was like, he's the nicest guy too.
He's easy to hang out with.
He's very fun.
Very fun.
He's like a friendly, friendly guy.
unidentified
But, you know, he would do the three, two, one, go!
joe rogan
Like, he did the countdown.
But, like, me and him standing next to each other is so hilarious.
Because it's so stupid.
brian moses
Yeah, it's like twins, right?
joe rogan
It's worse than that.
Arnold is not as big in comparison to Danny Capito.
Yeah, Arnold is small compared to me.
brian moses
That Manute Bowl and Muggsy Bogues picture?
Like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's like...
Yeah, that's close.
freddie gibbs
I'm taller than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was just a big, wide guy for the day.
You gotta think about that guy.
He's like 70 years old.
That means he was born at a time where we were talking about earlier, where people didn't have any food.
freddie gibbs
Right.
He fucked his housekeeper.
joe rogan
That was before the podcast, right?
That was.
He did fuck his housekeeper, allegedly.
freddie gibbs
He had a baby.
joe rogan
Allegedly.
It might have been Jesus' intervention.
Who knows?
freddie gibbs
That little baby look like a Mexican Arnold Schwarzenegger.
brian moses
He does.
And he is.
freddie gibbs
He is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he's a handsome fella.
Can't deny that.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, definitely.
brian moses
I mean, you've read all those books about Schwarzenegger.
He's inspirational.
I mean, just the guy, the confidence he would exude.
Did he get divorced after that?
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Dude, I'm a giant fan.
I love that guy.
I met him once.
freddie gibbs
He got divorced after that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was a wrap.
The guy's a savage.
He's an Austrian savage.
He's a big old giant man-tittied pecked savage.
Look at that!
Look at that!
That's preposterous.
Look at the size of him.
brian moses
Oh, he was still in the league at this point.
joe rogan
I don't...
Yeah, I mean...
jamie vernon
Because you guys were out in Orlando, so that's why he showed up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what team he was for.
jamie vernon
Or Universal, LA. I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Was he playing for Orlando?
jamie vernon
He was already on the Lakers.
brian moses
Net zero.
Net zero.
joe rogan
Back in the Disney, son.
Back when I had hair.
freddie gibbs
Shit.
joe rogan
Back in the old days.
But it's just like the physical size difference.
Like, anybody thinks life is fair, look at a picture of me standing next to Shaq.
brian moses
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Life ain't fair.
That's not fair.
What the fuck is that?
That's not fair.
I did a whole joke about the White House because there was a lady who was guarding the White House when a dude broke into it.
It was my 2016 triggered Netflix special.
They let this lady guard the White House.
She didn't even have a gun.
She was at the front door.
It was unlocked.
She was standing there.
Just one lady.
And this dude ran through.
And I'm like, that is...
That is the dumbest fucking idea I've ever heard of.
You're gonna have the literal place where the president sleeps guarded by a lady and she doesn't have a gun.
brian moses
And she sleeps.
joe rogan
And the door's not locked and the guy just runs through.
brian moses
And did he get caught?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got caught, but he got caught by some dude who was an off-duty cop who just happened to be on the job.
And this guy was running through the hallway.
brian moses
What year was this?
joe rogan
I talked about in 2016. So it had to be like, I would guess like 14 or 15. The dude that ran in, was he white or black?
I don't know.
freddie gibbs
He had to be white.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Probably.
brian moses
Is this woman still working there?
Was she there on January 6th?
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
Different job.
She had to beat us.
She keeps failing upward.
Right.
brian moses
Oh, should have did it again.
They all in here now.
All right, fuck.
They have shit.
All of them.
joe rogan
But my joke was the idea that men and women are different.
Of course we are.
And there's no equality.
That's why there's the Olympics.
And I was like, if I wanted to make a run at the White House, if I'm guarding the White House, if I'm standing at the front door of the White House and Shaq decides to go to the White House, I go, guess what?
I go, we're fucked.
That dude's dick is where my face is.
The White House is experiencing a Shaq attack.
I'm not saving the world.
brian moses
Shaq attack.
joe rogan
But it was like standing next to him like, there's no fairness.
There ain't no fairness.
There's no fairness.
brian moses
One, two, three, shoot.
joe rogan
Yeah, we gotta be nice to each other, but there ain't no fairness.
It's like, we get weird rolls of the dice, you know?
You see some person that's born with birth defects, or some person that's born confused, or those people that I was talking about that were inbred on that white underbelly show.
freddie gibbs
That's their fucking fault.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
brian moses
Well, being born is not their fault, but it's their parents.
freddie gibbs
It's their parents' fault for fucking each other.
joe rogan
But their parents, the level of inbred these people were at, I bet their parents weren't even at fault.
I bet it was their parents' parents.
This is like multi-generational.
unidentified
Systemic.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you gotta see what it looks like.
Pull it up, Jamie.
freddie gibbs
Throw the whole family away.
joe rogan
Inbred family in the Appalachias, and it's soft white underbelly on YouTube.
brian moses
And they're down for this inbreed, and they're just like, this is cool, like, what you mean?
freddie gibbs
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I literally have no idea.
I just watched them talk, and they talked about their childhood, and it's super disturbing, man.
brian moses
Yeah, it sounds like it.
joe rogan
And it just, again, it makes you realize that, like, you don't...
freddie gibbs
I mean, look at everybody in the fucking house, man.
I mean, at some point, you should be like, man, we retarded.
Come on, man.
We retarded as hell.
We need to start fucking each other.
unidentified
But...
joe rogan
Come on, man.
There's no guidance there.
Jamie, give me some volume.
See that guy with the red shirt?
He learned how to communicate around dogs, so he only barks.
unidentified
I remember Ray.
I photographed you, Ray.
Do you remember?
brian moses
Years ago.
joe rogan
You hear that?
Dude, back that up.
This guy was raised by dogs, so he communicates like a dog.
brian moses
Yo.
freddie gibbs
Look, man.
Ain't no crack involved in none of this.
unidentified
What are your names?
joe rogan
Watch this.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
Who's this?
His name's Ray.
Ray?
I remember Ray.
I photographed you, Ray.
Do you remember?
brian moses
Years ago.
unidentified
And your name is?
Lorraine.
Lorraine?
joe rogan
These people, like, make noises like a dog.
Like, this guy is communicating.
brian moses
That dog's even looking at him like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Okay, so who fucking who?
That's the problem.
joe rogan
Freddie, that just got this show canceled.
We were doing so well.
I thought we made progress.
That's the problem.
freddie gibbs
Everybody fucking, see?
joe rogan
Well, it's not their fault.
It's people long, long, long before them.
brian moses
Throw the whole family away.
Somebody's gotta break the chain.
joe rogan
Well, this is like a possibility.
Like, imagine that there's video cameras, so someone's figured out how to film things, and then upload it to the internet, and you can watch it on your phone.
And at the same time, someone's child has been raised by dogs where he can't talk, and he's been inbred for so many generations that he can't communicate other than by barks.
So back that up and play that again.
And think about what's going on here.
Play this right here.
unidentified
What's your favorite memory, Ray?
Do you remember anything about your life?
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
freddie gibbs
Damn, Scooby-Doo.
joe rogan
This guy can't talk.
Scooby-Doo can talk.
What, bro, Shaggy?
brian moses
You asked your other brother.
unidentified
Shit.
brian moses
Dog.
joe rogan
This is what's left of this guy.
He's just like chewing on bread, confused and barking like a dog.
unidentified
So you lost your brother?
joe rogan
I don't know, Jamie, but I don't think he's going to pull out of this.
jamie vernon
Well, I didn't mean that.
joe rogan
Jamie's like, maybe he's got time.
Maybe we're just being judgmental.
jamie vernon
I meant more like he was only 27 years old.
unidentified
I was going to say, he was like 18. I don't know.
joe rogan
But you have to look at this, this is the way I looked at it at least, and go, hey, that could be any of us.
We could have an unlucky roll of the dice, and you're born in that house.
freddie gibbs
Nah, my family wasn't fucking.
That could have been me.
joe rogan
But it could have been you if it wasn't, you know, your roll of the dice.
freddie gibbs
That's a different kind of roll of the dice, Joe.
joe rogan
I know, I know, but you're very fortunate that your situation...
I'm not saying anything about...
There's no way it could have happened with your family and you growing up, but imagine if you were born an inbred person in Appalachia.
We all could have been.
When we emerged into this existence, We didn't have any control whatsoever on where we were going to be born.
Imagine being this guy who can only bark like a dog.
freddie gibbs
That's sad as fuck.
joe rogan
It's sad as fuck.
It's crazy too.
freddie gibbs
God damn it.
joe rogan
It's crazy that this is possible.
This also could be a guy.
Imagine if this guy was raised right and he wasn't inbred, where he was a guy who would talk to you about his kids or what his hobby is, and maybe he likes to make carpentry and shit.
Who knows?
He could be like a regular guy who's fun to talk to.
brian moses
It's interesting, though, because he knows he has to hold his pants up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he probably can't afford a belt, man.
brian moses
No, I hear that, but I'm saying, but he still has the wherewithal that he's still putting pants on.
joe rogan
Right.
brian moses
You know, like, he's gonna hold these up and have pants on.
freddie gibbs
He don't think he a doll.
unidentified
Is that Freddie's grade?
joe rogan
Right, right.
freddie gibbs
Just talk like one.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
Fuck, man.
brian moses
I mean, that is, yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine if that's your kid.
freddie gibbs
How do you eat with no teeth?
joe rogan
You don't eat well.
brian moses
And they're not brushing their teeth, probably.
Nobody's taught them, probably.
unidentified
That's why he's eating bread all day.
brian moses
Because he can't eat something soft.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brian moses
No dentist as a child.
Because he can't afford it or something like that.
joe rogan
And we're looking at this.
We don't really...
I don't have any idea where they live.
How removed they are from everybody.
brian moses
Right.
I mean, there's tribes like that.
You're right.
In middles of continents that, you know...
joe rogan
But this is way worse because it's like a very small group of people that live in this one place and they're like known to be inbred.
So like it's within our lifetimes.
freddie gibbs
Well somebody and they family gotta stop the- Oh my god, it's called Odd?
joe rogan
It's called Odd?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's an unincorporated community in Raleigh County, West Virginia.
Oh my god, a population 779, oh my god.
freddie gibbs
That is the hills have eyes, nigga, I'm straight.
brian moses
It's going to cost me $399 to get there.
joe rogan
Imagine if you run out of gas there.
freddie gibbs
Oh, no.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
freddie gibbs
No cell phone service.
joe rogan
You know, one of them...
They have a yoga class.
Oh, gentle yoga.
Gentle yoga.
freddie gibbs
Yoga with a bunch of motherfucking zombies.
joe rogan
That sounds relaxing.
Trying to calm everybody down.
One of the best horror movies I ever saw was Bobcat Goldthwait.
Bobcat made a Bigfoot movie.
What is it called again?
Willow Creek.
It's about these guys who go up there to film this area where they first film Bigfoot and they get attacked by Bigfoot.
It talks about like all these people that are missing in the woods every year that go hiking and vanish.
And this idea is like the Bigfoot's killing people.
But he did it like Blair Witch Project style where it looks like some people...
brian moses
POV? Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So there's these people that are hanging out, but it's fucking good, man.
brian moses
Alright, Willow Creek, I'm gonna check it out.
joe rogan
It's good, dude.
It's the absolute best Bigfoot movie ever made, hands down, 100%.
Bobcat nailed it, and Bobcat is like a true believer.
He and I have gone back and forth about Bigfoot on the podcast.
freddie gibbs
Bigfoot, all I hear about is white people talking about Bigfoot just running around scaring people.
Do we ever kill anybody?
joe rogan
No, no.
Not only did they never kill anybody in recorded history, but...
freddie gibbs
Hold on, so this Bigfoot shit is a real thing?
joe rogan
It was 100% a real animal.
brian moses
What?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian moses
What the fuck?
joe rogan
It was called Gigantopithecus, and they found, during the 1920s, at an apothecary shop in China, an anthropologist found a primate tooth that was far too big.
And he looked at it, and he's like, what is this?
This is bigger than a gorilla's.
Like, where'd you get this?
And they...
Guided him to the area where it was excavated, and they found a bunch of different bones and jaw bones that represented a bipedal hominid that was approximately eight to ten feet tall.
This was a real animal that lived in Asia, and we know that humans walked across the Bering Strait.
That's what it looked like.
So humans walked across the Bering Strait, they believe, the Bering landmass, into North America, and they think that short-faced bears and a bunch of other animals made it through that area too, but they think there's a remote possibility that this giant primate from Asia, at one point in time, thousands of years ago, interacted with people, and that people have this Go back to that image again that you just had, Jamie.
brian moses
So not a bear, it's a primate.
joe rogan
It's a primate.
It's a giant primate that's in like that.
Give me that, Large.
So it's a giant primate in the orangutan family.
They believe.
So what they have is like a few jawbone pieces and a bunch of different things that...
So they verify that it's a real animal.
So that's why they have this chart here.
Gigantopithecus blacki is the official Latin name for it.
And this fucking thing is...
How big is it?
3.5 meters.
freddie gibbs
That motherfucker's bigger than Chewbacca.
joe rogan
So that's at least 7 feet tall.
So it's somewhere around 7 feet...
No, 3.5 meters is 9 feet, 10 feet tall.
brian moses
Damn!
joe rogan
And so this giant thing was a real animal that existed that lived with people.
So these bones that they found, I think they were like a hundred thousand years old.
See if you can find that.
Gigantopithecus bones aged.
So they found them and they realized that these animals were living alongside with people.
freddie gibbs
Did he fuck people?
joe rogan
It could have been.
He did whatever the fuck he wanted.
brian moses
Ten foot tall.
joe rogan
I mean, if he came upon your village, what are you going to do?
brian moses
Shoot the three and protect the rim.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you going to do?
Are you going to stop them?
You're going to stop them from fucking you?
freddie gibbs
They had a male Bigfoot.
They had to have a female Bigfoot.
joe rogan
They definitely did.
So the idea is that this is what was the thing that Native Americans talk about in their folklore, because I think there's a hundred different Native American names for Sasquatch.
They have a bunch of different names for him, which leads a lot of these people who study these cultures You go, man, that is very unusual.
It's very unusual that they talk about a thing that's not real over and over and over and over and over again.
And if you know that this used to be a real thing, which Gigantopithecus definitely was, and then you know that these Native Americans, everything else, whether it's the buffalo, whether it's the pronghorn, the deer, all those things, the bear, they had them all mapped out.
They talked about all of it.
Like, they were very accurate about where they lived and how they traveled and how to hunt them.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then they had this Sasquatch thing.
Well, what the fuck is that?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
What is that?
brian moses
It's just extinct, I'm saying.
joe rogan
But how do you know that that wasn't real?
How do you know that, like, 30,000 years ago, 40,000 years ago, these people had countered these things?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And imagine you're a fucking dude with a bow and arrow, and you're trying to feed your babies, and you're sneaking through the forest, and you see a 10-foot orangutan.
brian moses
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just a giant thing looking at you, and you're like, yeah!
And they just didn't make it.
They didn't make it.
brian moses
Too tall.
freddie gibbs
They killed them off, huh?
joe rogan
Well, they killed them off, or maybe they didn't have enough food, or maybe there's predators, who knows what the fuck it is, but if something dies, for whatever reason, if something, like, dies off, like a woolly mammoth, right?
They're not here anymore.
brian moses
You gotta think about their lifespan, too, right?
Because even tall humans, right?
Like, their lifespan is shorter, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
And also, like, the amount of food they must need.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
If you're ten feet tall, the amount of fucking food you must need.
brian moses
Like a two-year lifespan or something.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And if you don't figure out weapons before the people do, and they have catapults and shit...
brian moses
Done.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, who knows?
With all that David and Goliath shit, who knows?
brian moses
But only like a few bones.
unidentified
Who knows?
brian moses
Not a lot of bones, huh?
joe rogan
Who knows if David and Goliath...
brian moses
Oh, the David and Goliath...
Oh, bro.
joe rogan
What if that was about a Bigfoot?
brian moses
We talked about this a couple weeks ago about David and Goliath.
Which is it?
About how that's genocide, what David did.
He fought this big dude, one, and they said, all right, now kill all of them.
joe rogan
Oh, is that what he did?
Wait a minute, after he killed, Goliath killed everybody?
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Killed all the big niggas.
brian moses
No, it was that whole people, yeah.
Yeah, that is open genocide, the David Goliath story.
joe rogan
Well, that's unfortunate and not productive to the narrative.
Right.
brian moses
And I don't want to talk about King David that way.
I don't want to get attacked by the media.
joe rogan
Why don't you just leave that part of the story out?
brian moses
I'm going to leave it out.
joe rogan
And David killed Goliath, which is good, right?
brian moses
Right.
But we can't have a conversation because, you know, well, yeah.
What was Goliath a part of?
joe rogan
Goliath was like a giant and he killed him with a rock and a sling.
brian moses
He was part of a people.
I forget what they're called, those people.
joe rogan
I don't even think they had slingshots.
They had a sling.
The sling was like you had two strings.
You had two strings of a pouch and you would swing it, swing it, swing it and you let it go.
brian moses
Yeah, it's a big rock at this guy's face.
This guy crushed his skull.
Allegedly.
joe rogan
These are like the most second-hand stories ever, right?
brian moses
Hey, man.
joe rogan
How much would you give to find out what Adam and Eve was really all about?
Like, what happened?
What is that story?
freddie gibbs
Some people fucked in the jungle.
And that's it.
joe rogan
But what about the snake and the apple?
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
All that shit is in the jungle.
It's apples.
joe rogan
Right, but why shouldn't she eat the fruit?
Is he just controlling?
Was Adam just a super controlling boyfriend?
brian moses
Throw her all under the bus.
joe rogan
Totally.
brian moses
Throw her all under the bus.
freddie gibbs
I told that bitch not to eat that shit.
joe rogan
I know.
Everybody knows about it to this day.
brian moses
Just discredit a woman.
It's the first story of the Bible.
joe rogan
She's the whole reason why we're fucked.
brian moses
Yeah, this lady, I mean, like, by the way, after that, that's all patriarchy.
Sorry, ladies, like, yeah, you're the reason.
joe rogan
Right, it wasn't the dude's problem that everything went sideways.
It was Eve's problem.
She fucked around and listened to the snake and ate the apple, and now we're doomed forever.
Adam didn't do anything.
He was perfect.
freddie gibbs
Adam was jacking off in front of the computer.
unidentified
He was busy trying to get his OnlyFans up.
freddie gibbs
Adam tried to get his OnlyFans up.
joe rogan
You know what the real problem is gonna be, gentlemen?
When you can put a headset on and you can have sex with whoever you want.
brian moses
Right, like Demolition Man.
joe rogan
You could put a headset on.
You could have sex with the Hulk.
brian moses
Whatever you want!
joe rogan
Whatever you want, Wonder Woman!
brian moses
What do you want?
joe rogan
Chewbacca?
Who do you want to fuck?
You want to fuck Orca?
brian moses
Right, or like a cartoon, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can do whatever you want.
There's gonna be a time where you can have an experience that's real similar to a real-life experience like this, where you can touch metal and touch tables and wood, and it's gonna be, you can just put a headphone on, achieve it.
brian moses
Isn't that what the metaverse is supposed to be?
Eventually?
joe rogan
If it's not like the Mark Zuckerberg version of it, which is kind of interesting, it's something else.
brian moses
It'll be like that Matrix version.
joe rogan
Someone's going to figure out something where they're going to have a way of making you experience something that's not real but feels as real as anything you've ever experienced.
freddie gibbs
Well, that one lady got raped in the metaverse.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Is that real?
brian moses
That wasn't real?
That wasn't right.
We read it.
Does that happen, Jamie?
joe rogan
Does that happen?
jamie vernon
A hundred percent happened, but yeah.
That's what she said.
Then they put on things that like there's like a barrier.
Now you can't get close to it.
A barrier?
freddie gibbs
Bitch, how do you feel it?
What do you feel?
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
Sometimes people need to learn their lessons.
freddie gibbs
Ain't no laws in the metaverse.
joe rogan
Society progresses.
brian moses
Ain't no laws in the metaverse.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
Is it okay?
Like, imagine if there's no pain in the metaverse, right?
And you only experience it in your mind.
You put headsets on.
Should you be allowed to have sword fights?
freddie gibbs
Listen, I mean, if I see a nigga I don't like in the metaverse, I'm killing you with that motherfucker.
unidentified
Sexual harassment in the...
joe rogan
Women alleges rape in virtual world.
freddie gibbs
What the fuck?
unidentified
Wow.
freddie gibbs
How is that even possible?
brian moses
So yeah, the metaverse is basically like New Delhi.
joe rogan
She says within 60 seconds of joining, I was verbally and sexually harassed three to four male avatars with male voices, essentially, but virtually gang raped my avatar.
She details watching her avatar get sexually assaulted by a handful of male avatars who took photos and sent her comments like, don't pretend you didn't love it.
freddie gibbs
Whoa.
joe rogan
Whoa.
We entered into a new discussion.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god.
brian moses
Yeah, sexual assault.
freddie gibbs
So is it illegal to suck sexual assault a person in the metaverse?
Is it laws in the metaverse yet?
joe rogan
They're gonna make them.
They're gonna make them after something like that.
brian moses
But it's somebody's voice actually doing it, right?
So it's this dude, he's getting this carnal pleasure from being like, this isn't me, this is my avatar, but this is what he wants to do as his avatar, right?
Like you're doing Grand Theft Auto.
freddie gibbs
They should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
joe rogan
I think there's also, like, people want to do what they're not supposed to do.
Let them do it there.
If it's not really happening, yeah, what's not really happening, no one's really getting touched, they feel like it's okay.
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Get out of the game, bitch.
Push pause.
brian moses
You don't want to hear that going in there.
joe rogan
If you're a dude and you get on the metaverse and some other giant dude throws you to the ground and starts fucking your mouth, Exactly.
You're not going to enjoy that.
brian moses
Exactly, bro.
You're going to be like, hey!
freddie gibbs
I got raped in the metaverse.
joe rogan
You got some big, giant dude who just Shaq-sized palms the back of your head and starts fucking your mouth.
What are you going to do?
brian moses
Bigfoot's raping me!
freddie gibbs
I'm breaking the Oculus.
joe rogan
You got to realize the first versions of the metaverse are going to be like Pong.
Did you ever play Pong?
I'm older than you guys, but when I was a kid, when I was a little kid, that's when Pong came in.
freddie gibbs
Boop, boop, That was the first game.
joe rogan
It was the wildest shit.
You can control something that's on your TV.
unidentified
But it got way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way better.
joe rogan
And that's the same thing that's going to happen with this shit.
brian moses
Right, exactly.
joe rogan
Eventually, it's going to get to a place where some giant dude's going to hold you down and fuck your mouth And you're going to be like, what the hell?
brian moses
I don't want to be in this metaverse no more, right?
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
What the hell?
And then we're going to make rules.
freddie gibbs
I need an off switch.
brian moses
I'm going to need some metaverse counseling after this.
joe rogan
Imagine if you had a metaverse where you were on a beach and you were waiting on the beach watching a group of Vikings pull their boats up to the shore and you're like...
brian moses
Fuck!
joe rogan
Flaming arrows start flying through the air as they reach the shore, and you realize they're gonna rape and kill everybody.
And that was a reality of history.
freddie gibbs
In the metaverse.
joe rogan
And you're trapped in the metaverse, trying to survive.
brian moses
And there's a bunch of dudes saying, like, you know you love it.
I mean, imagine a bunch of dudes who make their avatars KKK and be like, oh, come here.
You know, start black dragging you or start lynching you in the metaverse.
freddie gibbs
It's the metaverse though.
I don't give a fuck.
See?
joe rogan
You don't give a fuck.
But if the metaverse becomes more compelling than the regular world and you spend most of your time there, what is real life?
Here's the question.
If you have 24 hours in real life but you spend 15 of it in the metaverse, isn't that more real life than real life?
If all you do, you'll get a couple of things done and you go to sleep for the rest of the time.
But if life becomes so much more interesting in this digital world, people are going to try it.
freddie gibbs
See, we might be in the motherfucking metaverse right now.
joe rogan
That's true.
We might be.
brian moses
I think you're right, though.
I think, yeah.
You know, my niece, his kids, your kids, kind of a thing.
They're going to grow up in the 2040s, 2050s if we're still around.
joe rogan
Or there's some kind of a war that kills the power grid.
Either one of those things is real.
Like, if you learn anything from this whole Ukraine situation, learn that it can happen, right?
Learn that a war is a real possibility.
brian moses
That's the terrifying part.
joe rogan
All this jargon.
People like to pretend they know what the fuck is going on and what's important.
Want some more of that, Fredo?
freddie gibbs
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
All these people that pretend they know what the fuck is going on, they don't.
Nobody does.
This is kind of chaotic in terms of, like, what's gonna happen.
I mean, you know, where this is gonna go.
This is fucking chaotic, man.
We need to realize that this can happen.
And now we know.
brian moses
Now we know.
joe rogan
All this is not just talk.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
This isn't just talk.
And there's a lot of just crazy talk.
People talk about foreign policy and what's important.
And then once you watch missiles hit apartment buildings, you're like, holy shit.
brian moses
Yeah.
But it's been happening for years, though, right?
I mean, we send missiles and drones over there, too.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
What's that graph?
Did we find that graph, Jamie, of all the most recent...
jamie vernon
Yeah, with that graph, looking into that...
joe rogan
It's bullshit?
jamie vernon
It might be.
unidentified
God damn it!
joe rogan
I wanna believe!
brian moses
He wants to not be the misinformation king!
jamie vernon
Where it's coming from might be propagandas.
joe rogan
I'm the misinformation king, but I'm uncredible.
Listen to me.
Don't listen to me.
That's what you should listen.
If you wanna listen to me, don't listen to me.
I'm not your guy to be listening to.
If you want to listen to the people I talk to, please do.
But from my personal perspective, I'm not a reliable source of information.
I don't trust me.
Why the fuck should you?
I don't trust me for information.
brian moses
Yeah, I know.
I hang out with you.
joe rogan
I fucking babble.
I babble for thousands of hours.
I don't know what the fuck I'm saying.
brian moses
Yeah, people should just hang out with you and be like, oh yeah, I just like his podcast.
You know what I mean?
He's cool.
joe rogan
I genuinely want everybody to do better.
brian moses
Yes.
joe rogan
100% genuinely.
All people I meet.
I want us to get along.
I like parties.
I like to see friends and hug them.
I saw you two guys today.
I hugged you.
I like that.
brian moses
Report the good shit this cat does.
unidentified
I like fun.
brian moses
There's some things you've done for me.
I mean, we can't talk about it on air, and I won't give CNN the satisfaction, but like, yo, talk about the good shit he does.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You know, he's not a racist.
I'm here.
The cat has fucking blessed me financially so many times by just having me on the show or bigging up the rose battle.
I mean, like, he does countless things.
The shit you did in Australia nobody talks about.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
One of the things I did when I got canceled is I started doing mushrooms.
I did mushrooms every day for like three or four days.
And one thing the mushrooms told me one time, it said, you're not a bad person, but you left a bad impression.
And I was like, whoa.
That's a wild statement.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you get a statement, like, there's times when I do mushrooms where I get these, like, little...
I get these little moments where, like, am I just imagining I'm talking to something?
Or is something really talking to me?
What is this?
Like, what is this?
Is this, like, my own imagination trying to, like, sort out my existence?
brian moses
We call that that Jiminy Cricket, right?
Niggity Cricket.
That's a...
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
brian moses
Exactly.
That's so funny.
Yeah, but you also, I mean, listen, the god slur is tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's rough.
brian moses
The god of all slurs is the tough one.
joe rogan
It's the rough one.
brian moses
Yeah.
Because other ones, I mean, like, you know, there's, like, with the C word, you know, there's so many factions of that word, right, in the English language, you know?
And even if you say, yeah, cocaine.
Cunt.
Cunt.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a bunch of great bits about that word, too.
You know, the thing is, like, I can't wait, and I've said this on stage, too, that I can't wait until we can read minds.
Because then, like, what we're trying to do is, like, interpret a very specific and terrible meaning for anything that a person says.
But whether it's, you know, whatever the slur is, whether it's cunt or the n-word or the f-word or whatever.
But what words are supposed to be is a person conveying their intent.
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
So if there comes a time where we can read each other's minds, we can understand how you really feel.
We're basically going on like weird roadside maps.
We're not going on 100% understanding of how a person is trying to communicate and why and where they're coming from.
So we base it on words, which is perfect.
It's beautiful.
It's amazing.
It's eloquent.
It's the best way we have to communicate.
I'm not knocking it.
But what I'm saying is there's going to come a time in our lifetime where we don't have to do that anymore.
We're going to be able to communicate with each other just by virtue of your intent and how you feel.
Instead of being wrapped up in different languages and sounds people make, like Germans make a very different sound than Koreans, who make a very different sound than Brazilians.
Everybody's got their own way, the sound, the flavor.
But all they're trying to do is let you know how they think.
That's all I'm trying to do right now, too.
And one of the benefits that I have of all this crazy shit going on is that I have a podcast.
And that people have heard me talk so many fucking times.
They kind of understand who I am.
brian moses
Word.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, we know.
You our nigga.
joe rogan
When Stylebender said that at a press conference, I legitimately teared up.
I legitimately teared up, because I love that dude.
When he said that, I was like, God damn it.
He's amazing.
freddie gibbs
You can feel, man, you know what, as a black man in America, I can feel the energy of racism with anybody I go around.
I kind of know.
If you were racist, I could just spend five minutes with you and be like, oh yeah, this motherfucker don't like me either because I'm black or I could be, you know, have more money than him.
It could be something like that.
But I could feel the energy from, like, people who, you know, just how you, you know, how you talk, the things you say, you know what I mean?
I know.
And, you know, we all got our own prejudices, you know what I'm saying, and shit that we don't understand about each other's culture, man.
So, I mean, that just comes with just being different, man.
Racist, I can smell that.
I can feel that.
I know when a motherfucker is like, yeah, I don't fuck with you.
You know what I'm saying?
It's obvious.
It stands out.
brian moses
Let's talk about the real heroes.
Let's talk about interracial porn.
Male talent, right?
You're Mr. Marcus, there's Lexington Steel.
We don't say it enough during Black History Month how fucking legendary these guys are.
Could you imagine in the Jim Crow era, there's the biggest fucking white women on camera?
joe rogan
Have you ever seen Santino's bit about it?
brian moses
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
They always keep their sneakers on.
brian moses
That means they take the pants off.
And put the shoes back on.
joe rogan
That is a fucking hilarious bit.
brian moses
That is a hilarious bit.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's a good bit.
Santino's so fucking funny.
brian moses
I just love those cats.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
It's an interesting time for people to figure out what the fuck is important to be upset about and whatnot.
brian moses
At this day and age, how can you...
Hate black people?
How can you hate sex people?
joe rogan
How can you hate gay people?
brian moses
Right!
How can you hate anybody?
joe rogan
How can you hate anybody specifically for any reason?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I don't hate nobody, man.
Like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
But the problem is, Moses, you can attest to this, one of our problems as comedians is we...
The fun is in talking shit.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
And the fun is in trying to push a boundary or say something you think might be funny and you got like a split second to press the green light.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
And you're like, let's run with this.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Let's see how this goes.
brian moses
That's the game.
joe rogan
And when you're on stage, that's the number one thing.
Like the mistakes that you make on stage, you go down a road and you're like, oh my God.
brian moses
This is hate speech.
joe rogan
I can't believe I'm even here!
It's like you don't mean, you're just trying to remove yourself from the equation long enough to find a path that's funny.
But along the way, you're gonna say some ridiculous shit that you probably would rather have edited, you'd rather have started from scratch.
brian moses
It's like Kramer.
freddie gibbs
That was some racist shit right there.
He felt that.
You could feel it.
joe rogan
He was trying to make them feel bad.
brian moses
And a woman called, and I was working the phones.
I may have said the story actually on this podcast, but I did a bit, and then it was race-related, obviously.
Black woman calls the next day, I'm working the phone, and she's just like, I just have to let you know, there's a comedian you guys have named Brian Moses, and he was doing a joke.
And it was about black people.
And the black people weren't really laughing.
But the whites were kind of laughing a little bit.
And I just want to let you know, he can start a race riot in your club.
I was like, I will.
joe rogan
You answered the fucking phone.
brian moses
I answered the phone, bro.
And she said, he's going to start a race riot.
joe rogan
He can start a race riot.
brian moses
I was like, I'm black.
And I did the joke.
Like, what are we talking about here?
Just because it had to do with, you know, it was about a...
joe rogan
But you know what's...
Here's what's fascinating about this whole conversation.
Is that the...
Socially, it balances out where people understand what you can and can't talk about.
And that's the recognition of the history of racism in this country, is that a person like me can't say the N-word.
It's impossible.
You can't say it.
You can't say it anymore.
If you say it, people are going to get furious at you, right?
It's an emotional thing.
Well, why is that?
It's only possible if there's a disproportionate history.
If there was a word, it doesn't make any sense if there's not a disproportion in history.
This is a thing that I think we all have to recognize, all of us, is there's an imbalance that hasn't been rectified.
brian moses
Absolutely.
freddie gibbs
Right.
brian moses
Absolutely.
joe rogan
People get scared of that word reparations.
What does that mean?
Here's what everybody has to do.
You have to find all the spots that got fucked By the Civil War and by slavery.
You gotta fix that.
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
You gotta fix that shit.
brian moses
Well, the problem is they already gave reparations.
Remember?
I mean, like, they gave all the slave owners the money.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Oh, that's awesome.
Because they lost the property.
Yeah, exactly.
Nobody says that.
joe rogan
Right.
That's a real thing.
freddie gibbs
I mean, like...
joe rogan
They definitely did that.
brian moses
Yeah, they gave the slave owners because they lost all their property.
joe rogan
Yes, they reimbursed them.
I don't know if it was like...
brian moses
They called reparations.
unidentified
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
If you gave black people, like...
A tax break.
Like, we ain't got to pay taxes.
brian moses
That's what I'm saying, for 20 years.
freddie gibbs
We shouldn't have to pay taxes at all.
We shouldn't have to pay taxes.
We should get free property.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
Free tuition.
freddie gibbs
Free tuition.
joe rogan
They gave Native Americans casinos.
freddie gibbs
I mean, you got to economically help us catch up.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
And that's the problem with this economics.
We don't control anything.
We don't control property.
We don't control the food coming in our community.
We don't control our community.
joe rogan
Well, whenever you have a spot that's stuck, whenever you have a spot that's like socially compromised, like financially compromised, meaning socially compromised, meaning there's like gang violence and drug abuse and there's a lot of stuff around them.
And it's been like that for decades.
If they don't step in, then that's bad management.
freddie gibbs
But you could dwindle that down if niggas had farms and niggas had factories and things where we generated our own things.
We gotta go We gotta go to a white man for every fucking thing.
brian moses
We have more black millionaires than we've ever had in the history of black people.
We have the most educated people now in the history of black people.
So I'm saying, why aren't we doing that now?
Because they were doing that back with the Black Panthers and everybody like that.
So we could be doing that now.
We could be buying property in our neighborhoods.
We could be turning this shit around.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not something that's instantaneously solved.
brian moses
And that's facts, yeah.
joe rogan
But it is something that people are more and more aware of.
All the communication lets people think about it more and more, and then we come to a better place than we were a week ago, a year ago, whatever.
And that's where we are with basically every cultural issue.
That's why you can watch that video of Al Jolson from 100 years ago, and you can't even believe it's real.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Because we're making progress.
We're making progress as human beings, and the only thing that stops that progress is anything that stops communication.
So when you stop communication, you stop discussion.
You stop people from trying to figure out what's good and what's bad and what makes people feel bad and why it does that.
Like, why is this word more potent than that word?
Discussion.
It's fucking gigantically important.
That's why it's terrifying that there's people in this day and age that want to stop discussion.
They shouldn't stop discussion.
You should have your own response to whatever that discussion is.
Talk about it.
Disagree.
Robustly.
Disagree.
But don't stop discussion.
Don't stop Freddie Gibbs from fucking up the Bill Maher podcast because you know he did.
You know he showed up stoned as fuck, guns blazing, talking about shooting crackheads.
freddie gibbs
Come on, of course.
Me and Bill was definitely talking about fucking some hoes.
Shout out to my boy Bill, man.
joe rogan
Bro, Freddie, when you did this podcast and you were talking about, oh, that's when I shot this crackhead.
I was like...
freddie gibbs
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
I was like, I think he can get away with it.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that motherfucker dead anyway.
You're dead, bitch.
joe rogan
Well, and then there's that.
And then there's that.
freddie gibbs
I ain't had nothing to do with that, though.
I don't know.
He just showed up somewhere.
joe rogan
Good for you.
Congratulations.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, man.
I'm a rapper slash actor entertainer.
joe rogan
I'm a podcaster.
freddie gibbs
I'm a podcaster.
joe rogan
When does that happen?
freddie gibbs
That's coming soon, man.
I gotta retire from rap first, though, man.
joe rogan
Listen, you don't have to retire from rap to do podcasts.
It's not like it's a union endeavor.
freddie gibbs
I just want a podcast.
I don't want to rap while I'm doing it.
joe rogan
You can listen, bro.
You don't have to make a decision.
freddie gibbs
I want to just do that.
I don't even want to rap while I'm doing that.
I got maybe an album or two left and I'm out of this shit.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I left my mark in the rap game.
I did what needed to be done.
If it's a Rap Hall of Fame, I'm going to go to that bitch, so I ain't worried about shit.
joe rogan
Well, as a person who does podcasts with you, I've done a couple of them now.
You'd be great at it, man.
unidentified
Easy.
freddie gibbs
I'm going to do it.
That's my next move.
joe rogan
You're the most authentic dude I think I've ever met.
You're 100% authentic.
freddie gibbs
That's the next move.
joe rogan
You are yourself all the time.
freddie gibbs
At all times.
joe rogan
But this is what's complicated about people when they try to go into show business and get attention.
It's very difficult to be yourself all the time.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
Because there's consequences.
Definitely.
brian moses
His manager calls him Brick James.
unidentified
Brick J. Brick J. That's hilarious!
brian moses
Because he's a wild dude.
joe rogan
But this is my position, that people like you are important.
I think those fucking rule pushers, those boundary pushers, we're very important.
For what I like, I like wild shit.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
I like doing podcasts with people like you.
We take wild shit.
I'm like, oh my god.
And I just have to clutch my pearls.
unidentified
I go, oh my god, Freddie.
brian moses
How are they going to cut this compilation?
freddie gibbs
Come on, man.
We do the Freddie Gibbs podcast.
It's going to be crazy, man.
You know what I'm saying?
But we gearing up for that.
It's going to be real dope, man.
I can't wait.
joe rogan
And also when Moses contacted me about doing a podcast with you, I'm like, oh my god, this is perfect.
Two dudes to do a podcast with after my shit comes down.
freddie gibbs
We'll have a stripper pole and holes.
brian moses
Last day of the white guilt month.
I said, we gots to do it hard.
joe rogan
For sure.
So, let's get out of here and go check out my club.
Let's do it.
And then kill Tony tonight.
freddie gibbs
I want to go float in that chamber you got.
joe rogan
I want to go float.
100%.
freddie gibbs
Can we put holes in there?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
freddie gibbs
Aw, damn.
joe rogan
I don't think that's wise.
freddie gibbs
Because ho you is bound to drizzle.
joe rogan
No, no one drowns.
You float.
It's only 11 inches of water.
But it is contrary to the idea of the experiment.
freddie gibbs
Okay.
joe rogan
Brian Moses, Roast Battle.
There's two important shows in live stand-up comedy in the United States today.
One of them is Roast Battle, the other one's Kill Tony.
I firmly believe that one-two punch is critical for the development of up-and-coming talent.
They learn how to fuck with each other and they learn how to take a joke and learn how to be a little bit selfless with it and roast battle.
And then on Kill Tony, they learn how to do one minute under high pressure in front of the whole fucking world.
Yeah, exactly.
And both of them are super critical.
brian moses
Thank you, bro.
You're the man.
joe rogan
And like I said, brother, when I came back in 2014, your show was one of the main reasons why I came back.
Because I went back there and I saw that and I remember going, wow, this is so different.
This is so like...
Creative and wild and it was like this energetic sort of new thing where I could feel it when I went into that belly room and I was like, oh my goodness, this is exciting.
brian moses
I was like clapping.
joe rogan
But it was also, everybody was smiling, like the energy in the room was infectious.
The whole audience.
brian moses
There's a lot of love in there.
People come in there.
I remember, was it Ian something, but he said it was like, I came in here thinking it was going to be hateful and ugh, because that's not my style, but there's so much love in here.
joe rogan
There's so much love, you can take a good shot to the dick.
You can take a good one.
unidentified
You can take a good one if you're one of the people that gets roasted.
joe rogan
You can take a good shot to the day.
brian moses
Yeah, we just did a roast battle underground at this place called Madame Siam in L.A. It looks like a fucking underground fight club.
joe rogan
Well, my brother, when my club opens up here, you have 100% carte blanche.
Whenever you want to do roast battle, you want to do it once a week, once a month, it's in.
It's done.
Let's do it.
We got two rooms.
brian moses
We're doing it.
Once a fucking month.
joe rogan
That's it.
brian moses
Austin.
joe rogan
Freddie Gibbs Podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen.
freddie gibbs
Coming soon, bitch.
joe rogan
Available where?
freddie gibbs
On the nigga network.
In the nigga-verse.
brian moses
In him?
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