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Feb. 17, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1778 - Joey Diaz
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joey diaz
What's happening, you bad motherfuckers?
unidentified
Hey!
Uncle Joey live in Austin, cocksuckers!
joe rogan
So good to see you, man.
joey diaz
Great to see you.
You look great, man.
joe rogan
You look great, too.
joey diaz
Great fucking studio down here.
I like the lights.
I like the whole cosmic effect.
joe rogan
I wish you had more time in town.
I want to take you around.
I got to take you to the...
Well, I'm going to show you some things.
I want to show you some things.
I'm going to show you the club.
joey diaz
Okay, yeah, I'd like to see the club.
You got a lighter over there?
Let's get this party started.
Yeah, yeah.
I haven't smoked since this fucking...
I didn't even smoke this morning.
joe rogan
Well, that's crazy.
joey diaz
That plane took off at...
I left the house at 5. I was up at 4. I took some edibles last night with some CBD, so I woke up feeling like a fucking doctor.
joe rogan
New Jersey's all wide open now, right?
joey diaz
Wide open.
joe rogan
It's legal, like recreational, right?
joey diaz
Yeah, and let me tell you something.
They're waiting on stores.
Not really.
joe rogan
No?
joey diaz
People just opening those motherfuckers.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Delivery services that are tremendous.
They come to your house, deliver it at whatever time.
joe rogan
When I was in New Orleans, I bought weed on a food truck.
joey diaz
Yeah, they have those in New York.
joe rogan
They had a food truck.
This lady pulled up in a food truck.
She was just selling weed.
You figured it out?
unidentified
Pop the top.
joey diaz
Any good?
joe rogan
Yes!
It was very good.
It's upside down.
You're upside down.
That one.
It's a cigar lighter.
joey diaz
There you go.
joe rogan
There you go.
Hey!
unidentified
There you go.
joey diaz
We gotta open up the fucking podcast with a little fart.
It's great to see you, man.
joe rogan
It's great to see you, too.
joey diaz
Fucking long time from L.A., huh?
joe rogan
I know.
I know.
You know, the one time that I visited you in New Jersey and we had dinner at Il Nido, that fantastic Italian restaurant near your house, I wouldn't move either.
I get it.
Look, I love New Jersey.
New Jersey's like you're close enough to New York, but you're kind of like in the rest of the world.
You know, they're regular people.
Just normal people living their lives.
joey diaz
They go to the city.
They come back.
They commute.
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
You look at them, you go, how the fuck do you do that every day?
Get on a goddamn bus.
unidentified
I know.
joey diaz
An hour, an hour back.
Walk through Times Square.
joe rogan
It's a different life.
joey diaz
It's a different fucking life.
Me, when I moved down there, I knew that my New York days were over with.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Because it's an hour to and fro, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
And I used to go down there 20 years ago.
My buddy Chris Fish still lives down there.
And that's how I got introduced to that area.
When I was going to move to Jersey, I was going to move to Bergen County.
It was going to be close to the city, Fort Lee, my old hometown.
But after the pandemic, you couldn't find shit.
That Bergen County is where the guy went skiing and he came back from Italy and everybody got fucking...
Well, that was like somewhere in Westchester.
But Bergenfield...
joe rogan
Someone brought it?
joey diaz
Back.
Remember I complained to you that the guy went skiing in Italy?
joe rogan
Oh.
joey diaz
And he came back.
That fucking guy, he must have been the joy of his fucking neighborhood.
Because the whole neighborhood got it after that.
He's alive still, the dude.
But it doesn't matter.
When everything went down, I just wanted to get out of L.A. When I saw Burbank and what was going on in Burbank, I was like, you know what?
I don't want to raise my daughter here anymore.
I wasn't safe.
All the parades were being held around the corner from my house.
All the fucking violent parades and shit.
So I had people walking through my neighborhood, breaking into cars.
And I was like, we were dying to get the fuck out anyway.
Like, I went to New York in 2016 at the airport.
My wife asked me, why are we even going back?
She's like, why are we going back?
I can see that you like it here, you're having a good time with your friends.
And I miss one thing.
The Comedy Store.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
That's it.
But the Comedy Store, what we were doing there on Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights, that's never gonna happen again.
joe rogan
Well, if it happens, it'll be happening with a different crew of people.
joey diaz
With a different crew of people, absolutely.
joe rogan
It can mostly...
I mean, you know, it happened again with us, and it happened before us with other guys and girls that had come through.
There's some comics there that are really funny.
joey diaz
Tremendous comics.
joe rogan
It's still going to be a great place to go see stand-up.
It's just, you know...
We had a very fun thing going on.
We really did.
And the camaraderie that we experienced there was fucking amazing.
It was very unique.
It was not just unique in my life as a friend, being that close with people, but unique in comedy.
Because comedy, there's so many bitter comedians.
There's so many comedians that get upset when other people are doing well, that get upset when that guy got a movie.
Why is he getting his fucking movie?
You know, this attitude has always been a part of that community because it's so insecure.
Such a hard thing to do for a living.
You know, you're telling jokes and you're writing them and you're trying to like, who am I on stage?
Am I this?
Am I bigger?
Am I smaller?
Am I louder than I really am?
Am I more chill than I really am?
Like, what do I do?
How do I do this right?
And everybody is confused, and everyone's trying to figure it out, and along the way, some people figure it out faster than you, and they take off.
You know, some people, they fucking, they never make it.
There's guys that we've known forever that are funny guys, that for whatever reason, they never really pieced it together.
It's fucking a hard way to make a living.
It's a weird way to make a living.
You said it best one time.
You said it's the hardest, easiest thing you'll ever do.
Because when you're doing it and it's killing, it's easy.
But it's fucking hard to get there.
joey diaz
And it never stops.
You never stop working.
joe rogan
No.
joey diaz
You're always thinking of new material.
You're weird.
Your gears are always fucking turning.
You're always looking for knowledge.
Not looking for knowledge, but you're looking for data.
You know, to goof on.
They said Marlon Brando used to sit in foam boots in New York and look at people walking by to observe.
That's what we have to do.
We have to become, so we could go up later on and be fucking conduits of what we observed.
So it's an interesting It's a great fucking struggle.
I would do it all over again.
I don't give a fuck about the bus ride, sleeping on trail ways, sleeping in my car.
I fucking had a great time.
joe rogan
We got through that, you know?
That's why it's so great.
If you're still doing that at 50 years old, if you're still, you know...
Sleeping in your car, that's rough.
If there's no success at the end, it's like everybody loves a struggle.
Yeah, but they like the struggle and then succeed.
That's what they really want.
And for some of us, it's just...
Just too hard.
It's just a fucking weird way to make a living.
Ron White's still out there killing it.
Ron White went up last night at the Vulcan.
Destroyed.
Destroyed.
joey diaz
He is the last of the real fucking Mohicans.
joe rogan
He's the real deal.
joey diaz
He's the real deal.
I see him with his white hair.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
joey diaz
And his mustache.
And he's not drinking now.
joe rogan
Nope.
joey diaz
So he's got to be lethal.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he's lethal.
unidentified
Lethal.
joey diaz
If he's not drinking, because he was lethal when he was drinking.
joe rogan
He's micro-dosing mushrooms and smoking weed all day.
He's an animal.
joey diaz
If it makes you happy, it can't be that bad.
joe rogan
He's playing golf.
joey diaz
I see that.
He's eating.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
He eats good.
joe rogan
He looks good.
He looks healthy when you see him.
He's such a sweet person.
He's just such a sweet guy.
He loves everybody.
He's just such a good guy.
joey diaz
He's got good fucking tequila, too.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
joey diaz
That's good motherfucking tequila.
unidentified
That's real shit.
joey diaz
That must be torture on him.
joe rogan
David Lucas is into the tequila.
Is that him right now?
jamie vernon
That was him a couple days ago.
Playing golf with Cat Williams.
joe rogan
No shit, that is Cat Williams.
Wow, I wonder where they played.
unidentified
I think here?
jamie vernon
Vegas.
joe rogan
Oh, Vegas, that makes sense.
Yeah, he plays in Vegas all the time.
He does like the Mirage.
He'll stay there for a week and he just plays golf all the time.
He's an animal.
He lives a life of leisure.
You know?
joey diaz
That you're supposed to.
joe rogan
Yeah, he went to Maui for a couple weeks, just hangs out.
joey diaz
That's what he's supposed to do.
He works hard.
joe rogan
Yep.
joey diaz
He's that age.
He can't hit it like he used to, but he still hits it.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's probably a lot easier now that he's not drinking.
You know?
It's probably a lot easier.
joey diaz
The drinking weighs on you, bro.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's fun, though.
joey diaz
Oh, yeah.
I've had, maybe, since I last saw you, I had the whiskey with you in the studio.
And then I had a couple of fuckin' maybe two sangrias at Anthony's.
And then one night I got really crazy and I go, let me get an Italian fuckin' martini.
That was my biggest downfall.
unidentified
What's an Italian martini?
joey diaz
Oh my God.
Whiskey, whiskey, and more whiskey.
And a little bit of fuckin' anisette, you know.
I drank it and my eyes got red.
I could feel the heat around my eyes.
I couldn't even drink it and that was it.
I never drank again, dawg.
That was it.
joe rogan
Well you were never much of a drinker.
joey diaz
No, but that whiskey fucking killed me that night.
Gave me heartburn, my bones hurt.
It fucked me up, that Italian.
Is it an Italian martini or an oak?
An Italian Old Fashioned.
joe rogan
Oh, Italian Old Fashioned.
joey diaz
Which Old Fashioned already tastes like shoe polish.
Like you're already taking yourself into the murky waters with a fucking...
You ever drink the martini for the first time, like a dirty martini?
Your whole bottle, like what the fuck is that?
joe rogan
I like dirty martinis.
joey diaz
I like all that shit with the olives.
You eat like 15 olives afterwards.
joe rogan
The thing about Old Fashioned is I don't like putting things in whiskey other than Jack.
Or other than Coke.
Jack and Coke is okay.
I'll have a Jack and Coke.
But other than that, I'm not a big fan of whiskey.
I like whiskey by itself.
joey diaz
By itself, it's good.
joe rogan
I like it.
I like that taste.
When it hits you and you're like...
I love that.
I love that.
I like a drink that lets you know you're drinking, you know?
Like, I don't mind a pina colada.
I'm not like a, you know, I'm not stuck on my ideas.
I like a pina colada.
They're delicious, you know?
Some kind of coconut drink, something fancy.
But I like a whiskey.
joey diaz
See, but when you drink, it's the sugar that hangs you over.
joe rogan
Is that real?
joey diaz
Yeah, yeah.
Like, when you drink, like, if you go to fucking one of those freezy joints where they make the freeze and they Give you a lot of alcohol content.
The next day, you get hungover more on the sugar.
It's like when you eat an edible.
If you eat like a gel cap, you're fine.
But once you start eating brownies, the next day you wake up, you're like, I feel kind of weird.
It's that sugar.
joe rogan
Well, I do know that, you know, I don't normally eat this way.
I normally eat pretty clean.
But every now and then I'll go off the rails.
And one time, I had this...
Bacon cheeseburger and a giant milkshake and it would I know it was the milkshake because after I ate the milkshake I had a headache I had to sit down I felt like shit like and I'm like is this just cuz I'm old or is this just when when I was younger with that you're good sure it's gonna catch on fire When I was younger, I used to have a milkshake and it never affected me.
Or maybe I wasn't aware.
Maybe I didn't pay attention to my body as much.
Maybe I wasn't as tuned in.
Because now, if I drink a milkshake now, I'm like, oh, what did I do?
Like, I just feel like I've been depleted by 20, 30%.
Like, all my thinking energy, my physical energy.
Like, if I had to go run, I'm fucking doomed.
I can't run.
I'm so tired.
I'm just exhausted.
And that's my body just trying to process the sugar.
So if alcohol does that to you too, you know, because alcohol, you know, your body does process it like sugar, right?
joey diaz
So sugar, yeah, when you see, when people tell you they're hungover, ask them what they were drinking.
And if they were drinking like that sweet stuff, that's the worst.
I think the worst hangover I've ever had, honestly, is red wine.
joe rogan
Red wine?
joey diaz
Red wine.
Fuck me.
I drank a gallon of that Giulio, the Gallo brothers, when I was like, stole it from Albertsons, took that motherfucker to Hudson County Park, and I drank it, throwing bottles of pigeons and shit.
I went home that afternoon, I couldn't lift my head off the pillow.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
For like two days.
It was a horrible hangover.
I'm not good with alcohol.
I never have been.
I tried, but no, I gave up this year.
That was it.
I did have an ale two Saturdays ago with Anthony's, a little fucking cider, whatever you call it.
Hard knock, whatever the fuck they are.
joe rogan
Oh, hard cider?
joey diaz
Yeah, not bad.
joe rogan
Those are good.
I used to have those at the store sometimes.
Hard ciders.
I think that's a British thing, right?
Aren't they into that?
Or Irish?
Who's into hard cider?
Is that Irish folks?
What is that?
There's certain cultures.
It's a Europe thing, right?
Somewhere in Europe.
They're really into ciders.
joey diaz
I just drink it because it's the easiest.
joe rogan
Tastes good.
joey diaz
Yeah, it's the easiest.
One, just not to be a fucking asshole.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
When you're sitting at a table with a bunch of people drinking fucking old fashions and mimosas and There's times when drinks are almost necessary, like a cold beer sometimes.
joe rogan
Cold beer sometimes just feels like it's necessary.
joey diaz
A Heineken?
No, a fucking cold Heineken?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
joey diaz
A cold, cold, cold Budweiser in a can?
joe rogan
With some stone crabs?
unidentified
Oh.
joey diaz
We used to go to this place, Chan's Dragon Inn, we used to get fucking zombies with steak on a stick and egg rolls and fucking, oh my god, shrimp toast.
I love all that stuff.
That's the whole thing.
You want to drink beer with a nice pork sandwich, an Italian pork sandwich with sausage and peppers and fucking a nice cold, cold Budweiser in a can.
joe rogan
That's a place I haven't been to in forever, is Little Italy during the feast.
joey diaz
I didn't go last year, I'm not gonna lie to you, I didn't go.
joe rogan
I haven't been in decades.
joey diaz
1984, with this guy.
Yeah?
joe rogan
My buddy who came to me today, James, that's the last feast I went in 84. For people who don't know what it's like, you go to Little Italy in New York and you walk down the street and there's these like carts set up and they got like sausage sandwiches, sausage and peppers, you know, some of them is sausage with marinara sauce.
It's fucking insane.
It's all sausage.
joey diaz
Zeppelis.
joe rogan
Yes, Zeppelis.
joey diaz
Zeppelis, which are fucking probably the worst thing in the world that you could eat.
joe rogan
It's bread, sugar.
unidentified
Fried dough.
joey diaz
Fried dough, but fucking delicious.
joe rogan
It's deep fried dough covered in powdered sugar.
And you eat it and you're like, whoa.
joey diaz
When I was a kid, there was an Italian deli on 22nd and Central Avenue in Union City, New Jersey.
And I would walk there and get the loaf of bread that was really skinny, the Italian bread that was really skinny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I'd get a stick of Hotel Bar butter, a bag of fucking Zeppelis and a Coke, 32 ounce.
That was my breakfast in the 7th and 8th grade.
joe rogan
Wow.
joey diaz
I love all that shit.
Zeppelis for breakfast, buttered toast.
joe rogan
Buttered toast.
I used to get buttered bagels.
That was a thing in the East Coast.
joey diaz
Buttered bagels.
Buttered rolls everywhere.
joe rogan
That's not a thing out here.
joey diaz
No, it's not a thing anywhere.
joe rogan
Like you go to get a coffee and they'll sell you a buttered roll.
joey diaz
Right at the gas stations in Jersey.
You're getting right there at the gas station.
They got butter rolls.
Another big thing that I haven't seen this time is Not peanut butter, jelly with cream cheese.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
joey diaz
On a Kaiser roll or something like that.
When I was a kid, people used to eat that a lot.
I don't like that shit.
joe rogan
Remember you'd go to the diners and they'd have the little stacks of jelly sitting there?
joey diaz
Tremendous.
Those little grape ones.
joe rogan
Right next to the little jukebox machine where you could put money in and you'd press the buttons to get it to go and you'd see the record move over and drop in.
They had those.
Like they had those at your little spot.
Like when you would sit down at a diner.
Remember you had your own little jukebox there?
joey diaz
Remember at the last episode of The Sopranos when he's playing with the fucking jukebox and the thing.
And he puts on Don't Stop Believin'.
joe rogan
That's a real thing in the whole New Jersey, New York area.
joey diaz
The diner experience has not changed, except that they close at 11. They do?
Yeah, now because of COVID, I guess, they close at 11 in Jersey.
But when we got here in August, It took like two weeks to get settled, then we moved into a house.
And like the second week, we went out with a bunch of kids to the Manalapan Diner, and I had the fucking disco fries, and the kids went fucking nuts.
With the french fries, with the mozzarella cheese and the gravy, they went fucking nuts.
I was high as fuck.
I just started ordering, and my wife's like, what are you doing?
These kids don't know what that is.
They go watch.
They started inhaling those things.
Bro, within...
We moved in September 2nd.
September 3rd, I had to go north.
And when I came back, there were two moms in front of my house with four fucking kids.
That's the neighborhood I'm from.
Talking to my wife, talking about shit.
I pulled up.
They're like, how the fuck you doing?
I'm like, COVID! I ran in the fucking house.
I don't want those people around me.
And now they're like our fucking best friends on the block.
I got a great...
Listen, I remember you calling me going, do you want to go to Austin?
I go, listen, bro, I got to be around family.
I got to go back and be around family.
I've been too far.
It's too many years that I've been without my peeps.
unidentified
It suits you.
joe rogan
It suits you.
As soon as we got there, I was like, oh, I see.
He's the king of New Jersey.
joey diaz
Oh, we went to...
I'm like, he's not going anywhere.
No, it took time.
The first six months were kind of rough.
Then I had the knee surgery.
joe rogan
How is the knee now?
joey diaz
It sucks dick.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Listen, you know, I didn't do the research before the surgery because, I'll tell you what, if I would've done the research, I would've chickened that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I would've read too much into it and got on YouTube and seen the tools they used and shit.
The knee is good.
It's been 13 months.
You know, I'm doing great treadmill work, all that shit, but it's tough to fucking try to do jujitsu with it.
unidentified
Really?
joey diaz
The other day somebody hit me with one of those his okodachis, whatever to fucking throw, when they hit your leg, you know, like when they fucking go to sweep you.
joe rogan
It hurts your knee.
joey diaz
And I could feel it just knocked it off the track.
And this guy's a brown belt that's older, you know.
He didn't mean anything.
He just knocked it off the track, so.
joe rogan
And what do you do?
You pop it back in?
joey diaz
I just started walking.
I walked on it, put some ice on it, and then when I woke up Tuesday morning, it was scary because the scar came back.
The scar had disappeared and Tuesday morning the scar came back.
joe rogan
Like it was red again?
joey diaz
Yeah, as I was going into the shower.
I'm like, God damn it.
joe rogan
We should tell everybody what you got.
You got a knee replacement.
joey diaz
A knee replacement.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So is that when they resurface it?
They change the surface and they put like a ball and cap thing?
joey diaz
They put everything.
When you get to the surgery and you look at the table and you see a mallet, A fucking mallet.
Why is there a mallet here?
I couldn't even understand it.
If I would have done the research, I don't think I would have tried the needle first.
That's what I'm gonna do on my left one with the blood.
Oh, PRP? PRP, because that's the way to go.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of things they can do for you now.
Between stem cells and PRP, you can most certainly make your knees feel better.
You can eliminate most of the pain.
I got on this program, this guy Knees Over Toes guy.
I had him on the podcast.
His name's Ben Patrick.
Great guy.
I had him on the podcast and he has this program that he puts up online.
He puts a lot of it just on Instagram.
And it's all in how to strengthen your knees.
And he does it over like this very progressive way where you're not really overworking your knee.
You're never getting to the point where you're like in pain.
You're not working through pain.
And you build it over a long period of time.
And it's all about strengthening the areas around the knees of these various exercises that are pretty easy to do.
joey diaz
Pretty easy to do.
joe rogan
And, man, within, I don't know how many months I've been doing it now, Jamie, what are you, like, eight months or something?
Probably.
But I've completely changed the way my knees feel.
Like, I was thinking I was going to have to stop, like, hitting the bag.
Like, doing workouts, kicking the bag.
I was like, look, man, maybe I'm 54. Like, maybe at 54 you can't kick the bag anymore.
Not true.
No.
I strengthened everything up and whatever little pain that I was worried about went away.
And now I'm good to go.
Doesn't bother me at all.
Normal shit.
You know, normal little aches and pains.
But it's not like they don't feel like they work anymore.
Like I strengthened all the area around it and constant blood flow from all these exercises like pulling a sled backwards.
That's a big one.
It's a big exercise in his program.
joey diaz
So pull it this way?
joe rogan
Yeah, pulling it backwards.
joey diaz
I did that last week.
joe rogan
Because when you pull backwards, you strengthen your legs in a very different way than you do if you were pushing something forward.
And most of the stuff we do, you know, like with walking, you're going forward.
Almost always going forward.
And he's like, it really strengthens the knees and the legs in a unique way going backwards.
And I've found that to be probably the best thing for my knees.
And so I do it with, now, because he told me he did it with every workout.
So I'm trying to do it like basically three or four days a week now at least.
joey diaz
I walk backwards on the treadmill slowly.
And then we go outside, we do the pull, and then I just do, like, knee bends with my heel to touch the floor, and we kept raising the stuff.
And then I go see my buddy, Dave Batone.
He hits it, like, once a week with the laser.
So my left knee, the arthritis I had, I gotta be honest, I don't feel it anymore.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
I'm still gonna do the thing.
PRP? The PRP. I took my initial consultation.
I think I go back in two weeks.
And then we'll take the blood out, and we'll do all that stuff, and we'll take it from there.
joe rogan
I know people that have had knee replacements, and it's been a game changer for them.
It's really been amazing for them.
And I know other guys who have had problems.
I guess it probably depends on which kind you get, which doctor you go to, and there's probably a lot of variables.
joey diaz
It was fucking brutal.
joe rogan
I can imagine.
joey diaz
You know, I went to see him, and he goes, oh, yeah, you need it on the right one.
You know, because before the pandemic started on the 16th, they shot everything down in March.
I went to the doctor on the 9th, and he shot me with the gel.
And he goes, this will last for a year.
But the house I moved into in Jersey has stairs.
So it accelerated the fucking deterioration quickly.
You know, unloading the truck and all that shit.
So I went to get it, but I remember I went on a Thursday, and he goes, you're having surgery in two weeks.
That's how fast it was.
So he goes, Saturday, you got to go to brick and do the pre-whatever-the-fuck.
And I remember going down there.
And I'm like, I'm not gonna do this shit.
Everybody had their mask on, you know.
The fucking place was packed.
I already did the lung x-ray and the EKG. All I needed was a blood test.
And dog, I was ready to walk out of there.
And some dude walked in there 20 years younger than me with a fucking...
joe rogan
With a walker?
joey diaz
With a walker.
And this motherfucker didn't end there.
This motherfucker walked up to the nurse and he goes, how you doing?
My name is Charlie Brown, whatever.
And she goes, hold on one second.
I'm on the phone.
He turned his stroller around.
It was a fucking cooler.
He took a beer out and he sat on the cooler and he started drinking on the beer while the receptionist was fucking on the phone.
And I'm like, I don't want to be that dude.
Like, he can't walk.
Like, you could see when he got down, he couldn't even bend to sit down.
So I just went in, got it done.
And I went in the morning of, like, maybe two weeks later, and it was quick.
Like, I was in there.
And I was all in until they said they were going to hit me with that fucking thing in the back of your spine.
joe rogan
Epidural.
joey diaz
Jesus Christ!
And I was naked as shit.
My dick shrunk up.
Because that's the worst.
Because they're giving you all that shit free inside.
Like a little bit of this, a little bit of that.
They give you the IV. And I'll never forget, I'm on the fucking table.
They go, listen, wait two minutes.
We're going to give you the...
The intramural block, whatever the fuck it is.
And I'm like, listen, before you give me the block, I gotta take a piss, because when I stress out, I gotta pee.
And I remember, like, I just glazed my dick under the robe, and it was non-existent.
It was just a pair of balls.
All it was was the flap from the turtleneck, the uncircumcised.
I kept even double-checking, and the guy's like, come on, hurry up, get him, he needs to pee.
And a beautiful girl came over, dog.
With the thing.
And she says, I'm gonna help you.
Just put it in here.
And I'm like, you're not gonna do this.
You know, what are the chances you show up and my dick is as small as it's ever been?
And I remember, like, I had a maneuver of the fucking thing onto my dick to pee.
And then I took it out.
They hit me with the epidural block.
I passed out.
And I woke up fucking four hours later.
joe rogan
How long before you could walk?
joey diaz
I walked around that night.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
They had me walk.
joe rogan
What'd that feel like?
joey diaz
I was so fucked up on whatever they get, you know.
You can't really get a read on anything.
joe rogan
What do you do if you're an addict?
Like if you're a person in recovery and you're not supposed to get high and you go in to get surgery?
I mean, what the fuck do you do?
joey diaz
I had a friend that did that.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
What'd he do?
Just take it?
joey diaz
He had to do something completely different.
joe rogan
What did he do?
joey diaz
They have all these herbal alternatives and shit.
unidentified
Get the fuck outta here.
joey diaz
It ain't gonna work, you know, but you could try them.
You gotta remember, I lived in Boulder, where all those motherfucking granola people are like, you know, no, I'm gonna have...
And Doug, the birthing center in Boulder was across the street from the hospital for a reason.
Because those bitches would fold weekly.
Those women were going there, yes, you know, I go to yoga, I'm spiritual, I just want to have the kid fucking naturally, and it was right across the street from the hospital for a reason.
If you go to Boulder right now, the hospital is like two minutes from the birthing center, because they tap out.
They get there with their sandals, the long hair under their armpits.
I'm tough.
No, you're not tough.
That's fucking pain, okay?
joe rogan
Can you imagine that women did that for all of human history until they figured out...
joey diaz
It's brutal.
joe rogan
I mean, what did they do back in the day?
Do you think they got them drunk?
Did they give them booze?
I mean, what did they do when they're screaming in agony?
Just nothing?
Just let them handle it?
joey diaz
Well, what about when somebody has a kid in the car, like a taxi, or a cop has to deliver it?
There's no drugs.
joe rogan
There's no drugs.
No, you just have to have the kid.
joey diaz
It was just a kid.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
People still, to this day, want to do it in the tub.
There's a lot of people that choose to do it.
They get a doula, they get a midwife who helps them, and they have a baby in the tub.
It's wild shit.
joey diaz
It's wild.
joe rogan
That's a tough woman, man, to be able to go through that.
Like, I know I've had some painful surgeries, knee surgeries and stuff, but that is nothing compared to a baby coming out of your vagina.
I mean, get the fuck out of here.
A baby's so big.
A baby is so big.
A baby coming out of your vagina is just...
What a crazy design that nature figured out.
And you know, the thing about people, as opposed to all the other primates, is that when we come out, we come out and we're helpless.
Monkeys are not that helpless.
Chimps are not that helpless when they come out.
They're more developed.
But our heads are too big.
So when we come out, we need to be taken care of for way longer.
It's like...
Our period of development inside the womb is like nine months, but then you're not mobile for like another year or so, you know, in terms of like being able to walk.
It takes a long ass time to get a little kid to walk.
Chimps come out and they're pretty fucking good to go.
I mean, they're, you know, they're moving around pretty quickly.
We also come out with a lot of fat on us.
They come out like ripped.
They come out right out of the box, like low fat, real strong.
We're helpless when we're babies.
It's just a crazy design.
Thank God we don't have to give birth.
Could you imagine how few people there would be if babies had to come out of guys' dicks?
joey diaz
We wouldn't do it.
We wouldn't do it.
jamie vernon
Do you know what year they first had anesthesia for that?
joe rogan
Let me say 1920. Way older than that.
jamie vernon
Not way older, but a lot longer than that.
1846. Oh, wow.
joey diaz
And what were they using?
jamie vernon
Ether.
joe rogan
Ether.
The ether.
jamie vernon
And the chloroform.
joe rogan
Oh, so they put them out.
jamie vernon
And then it said in the 1920s they had a mix of sclopamine and morphine to make them just forget it all together.
They would forget the entire childbirth.
joe rogan
Doesn't chloroform put you out, though?
jamie vernon
I think that's what I mean, yeah.
joe rogan
So what do they do?
If you're having a kid, you want to be awake because you've got to push.
jamie vernon
Here's a...
It's hard to believe.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
Before 1846, there was nothing...
joe rogan
So, it's hard to imagine as a person living in the 21st century agreeing to surgery with the hope of anesthesia and yet prior to the discovery of ether, anesthesia in 1846, all surgeries from minor to major or absolutely radical were performed on people who are wide awake.
Oftentimes head down the operating table, Held down by men whose only job was to ignore the patient's pleas, screams, and sobs so the surgeon could do his job.
Oh my god.
There's some fucking horrific film scenes of surgeries where they do on people where they have to saw through bone and the guy's like biting down on a leather strap and screaming and they have to saw his arm off because he's got gangrene.
Like, yikes.
joey diaz
Don't you just pass out from the pain?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some people, it depends.
Some people can stay awake.
You know, like, passing out's a weird thing.
It's like some people pass out at the sight of a thing in a movie.
I used to date a girl, and we were in the movies, and the guy in the movie shot heroin.
And then she saw the guy shoot heroin, and she was like this.
joey diaz
Boom.
The guy fainted when Travolta put the needle in Uma Thurman's heart.
joe rogan
In Pulp Fiction.
joey diaz
Fuck yeah.
I was with a friend of mine in Boulder.
He put a raisinette in my mouth.
That's how I woke up.
He was goofing on me.
He thought I was fucking around.
unidentified
I passed the fuck out.
joey diaz
I passed the fuck out at UFC. Did you?
Yeah!
joe rogan
Which one?
joey diaz
At the Palm.
joe rogan
Which one?
joey diaz
One of the early ones you took me to.
joe rogan
Someone was really bloody?
joey diaz
The towel.
unidentified
The towel?
joey diaz
He wiped them down.
Yeah, the guy just threw the towel.
I'm sitting there.
The towel hit the fucking, you know, in between rounds.
They wiped them down.
And they threw the towel and it hit right there.
Where they walk up the stairs when the coaches were walking out and the coach picked it up and I saw it was dripping.
joe rogan
With blood.
joey diaz
And I was sitting next to Ralphie Mae and a chick that was like 20 with big tits next to like a doctor.
I didn't know this before I passed out.
When I passed out, obviously, I went to her tits.
The doctor put a towel on my head, and we started talking afterward, and that was it.
He goes, oh, I got a son that that happens to also.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
So he wasn't worried about you?
joey diaz
No.
He was like, that just happened.
joe rogan
That's good.
That way you don't have to miss fights.
joey diaz
No.
And one time I was at home, and it was BJ Penn.
Against Daddy Stevenson.
Joe Stevenson.
He split his fucking head open.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
joey diaz
And I was on the couch watching it at home eating like fucking a sandwich and the next thing you know it's four in the morning and there's a show about Christon.
I fell asleep for like three hours.
That was the bloodiest UFC ever.
joe rogan
That was a bloody one.
joey diaz
That was fucking bloody.
joe rogan
BJ cut him and then he got his back and choked him and while he was choking him the blood was pouring out of Joe's head.
See if you can find that, because it's one of the most shocking rear naked choke finishes ever.
And this was prime BJ Penn, when BJ Penn was the motherfucker of all motherfuckers.
joey diaz
2003, maybe?
Nah, a little later.
joe rogan
I think it was a little later.
I'm trying to think of what year it was.
Maybe four or five?
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that was when BJ was the top of the fucking food chain.
That was when Anderson Silva, when they asked him, who's the best pound for pound fire alive?
Who's the best pound for pound fighter alive?
And he said BJ Penn.
A lot of people said BJ Penn.
BJ Penn went all the way up to heavyweight and fought Liotta Machida.
That fucking heavyweight Joey.
He was a gangster.
Like, BJ Penn fought everybody.
He didn't give a fuck.
He fought everybody.
He didn't give a shit what weight you were in.
Two-division world champion.
unidentified
Is that it?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is it.
His jiu-jitsu is off the charts.
Like, here it is.
Like, he's got his back, and look, it's hard to see because it's low res.
joey diaz
It just hit his elbow.
joe rogan
But the blood is squirting out of Joe Daddy's head onto BJ's elbow.
And that's when, that's prime BJ Penn, man, I'm telling you.
The BJ Penn of that era, I put him up against anybody.
I would have loved to see the BJ Penn that fought Joe Stevenson against Khabib.
joey diaz
Watch his right elbow when the blood drips when he chokes him.
When he puts the elbow down, you see the blood squirt right on BJ's elbow.
joe rogan
Crazy.
That BJ Penn was a bad motherfucker.
It's interesting when you look at a fighter's career.
Sometimes people forget about the high points.
They only look at the low points.
They look at a fighter when they're not as good anymore, when they're not as committed anymore, maybe they have health problems.
They don't look at the time when they were at their highest RPMs.
That's what you've got to look at.
To me, that's like Mike Tyson.
Everybody wants to look at who's the greatest heavyweight of all time.
I don't think there's a greatest heavyweight of all time.
I think the greatest culturally significant heavyweight of all time is Muhammad Ali, because he was more than just a heavyweight champion.
He was a guy who they denied him his ability to fight for three years because he wouldn't fight in Vietnam.
He stood up for a lot of people that did not want the Vietnam War.
And he's also one of the greatest fighters of all time.
So he's got both things going on.
But Mike Tyson, in his prime, in those years from like, what was it, like 86, 87 to 89, 90, whatever those years were, where he was just storming the gates, I put that Mike Tyson up against anybody who ever lived.
That guy was a special fighter.
The Mike Tyson that beat Marvis Frazier was a beast.
He was just a juggernaut.
Just you couldn't stop him.
He was coming at you and he had everything.
He had knowledge.
He had this deep library of films that he would watch because his manager was Jim Jacobs, who was this boxing historian.
So Tyson would sit And watch all these great fighters.
This is the Marvis Frazier fight.
This to me is Prime Tyson.
Other than winning the title at 20, which was Prime too, but this is Mike Tyson when he was just at his fucking most destructive best.
He just stalked people down and smashed them, and he moved so well.
That was part of the thing about Tyson that people forget.
It wasn't just the knockout punching.
He was so hard to hit, man.
He was bobbing and weaving.
He was already short for a heavyweight, but he would get low, and he would come at you.
Look at those shots.
Look how he puts them away.
He's throwing things from his toes all the way up.
He's got everything going for him.
He's got deep knowledge of boxing.
He's got custom motto hypnotizing him from the time.
That's Jim Jacobs right there, the guy with the glasses.
That's the guy who was his manager and also had this incredible boxing archive.
So he had everything.
He had the need because he wasn't getting any love in his life until he was 13 years old, had his horrible life.
Then all of a sudden he gets adopted by one of the greatest boxing minds of all time, who's also a hypnotist, and takes him when he's at his most vulnerable, like he has the most need, right?
He's on his own!
And this fucking guy turns him into one of the greatest fighters the world's ever seen.
The Tyson of that year, those years when he was like the Marvis Frazier years and the Larry Holmes years, he was a different guy.
It's like a different model of fighter than we had ever seen in the heavyweight division before.
A fucking destroyer, man, where every fight was an execution.
And, you know, people would look at, like, later on in his life, like, look at, this is him taking Marvis out.
I mean, just ferocious, destructive, accurate, precise.
Everything is perfect.
The technique is perfect.
So strong.
He had everything going for him.
He had incredible coaching.
Teddy Atlas was one of his coaches.
Kevin Rooney, working with Customato.
And then Desire, he had everything.
He had heart and he had just destructive power that for those years, man, there's very few people that were ever like him.
joey diaz
There's just some people in every, you know, sports, music, boxing, they come along every couple years and they just blow you away.
They blow you away?
He was one of them.
joe rogan
Julio Cesar Chavez is another one for me.
joey diaz
Julio Cesar Chavez- Bernard Hopkins had something that was very impressive.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, but Bernard Hopkins had a special thing because they took away a lot of his prime years when he went to prison.
You know, Bernard Hopkins is for sure the guy who in our modern era fought the latest in his life as his oldest at a world-class level.
He's deep in his 40s, in a world-class level.
I think his last fight at a world-class level, I think he beat a former world champion at 50 years old.
Which is crazy!
joey diaz
Where is he today, Bernard?
joe rogan
Bernard's working.
He's doing Golden Boy Boxing.
He works with Oscar De La Hoya.
They promote fights.
You know, he's always got a suit in Italian after fights and promoting fights.
And because he was such a craftsman and such a great defensive fighter, he's got full control of his faculties, doesn't have problems with his words, you know?
That's the saddest thing ever.
It's like when Ali was older, And you had to see him have those conversations.
And they said, oh, he's got Parkinson's.
Well, yeah, but he's got trauma-induced Parkinson's.
Most likely.
The idea that that's not a thing.
That's what Freddie Roach.
How can I not remember Freddie Roach's last name?
Freddie Roach has that.
Same thing.
It's Parkinson's from his long career as a boxer.
And he talks about it.
joey diaz
I wanted to ask you something, because I know you went, and we didn't discuss it.
Tell me about the Stones.
What did you think?
joe rogan
Oh, my God, it was incredible.
joey diaz
I could tell that you were a little blown away, and I wanted to talk to you about it.
joe rogan
Joey, I was blown away.
Like, when I got there, I couldn't...
Like, I was a weirdo.
I couldn't talk to anybody.
I just couldn't believe that it was...
I was just watching, like, is this real?
Like, people would try to talk to me, and I was just like, hold on, like, is this real?
Is that really Mick Jagger?
That's when you realize what cultural icons they are, when you see them live.
First of all, we saw them live in Austin.
They have this amazing racetrack, Circuit of the Americas.
It's incredible.
It's an incredible place to see a concert because the stage is massive.
I think they told me they had 16 trucks, 15 or 16 trucks, all for the Stones, and one of them was Mick Jagger's Jim.
The whole truck is his gym.
The fucking guy works out twice a day, every day.
He's doing his choreographed dance routines.
He's working out.
He's doing cardio and lifting weights.
Constantly exercises.
And the fucking guy is Biden's age.
Biden's age.
And he's like, moving around on stage, button your lip, baby!
I mean, he's fucking doing it!
They played...
For an hour and a half, solid.
Killed it.
It was amazing, man.
Gimme Shelter came on.
There was goosebumps.
Goosebumps on top of goosebumps.
joey diaz
It's really fucking crazy.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
When you see Keith Richards out there jamming and then Mick Jagger's dancing and they got a badass band with them.
I mean, they have a bunch of, like, they have this lady singing with Mick Jagger who was amazing.
I wish I remembered her name, but there was a bunch of other people in the band as well.
Oh, my God.
joey diaz
50 fucking years.
Let's just talk about that.
50 years of being next to somebody on stage and touring past, whatever.
More, whatever.
50 fucking years.
Mick Jagger is, you know, everybody complains Mick Jagger's greedy.
He's the ultimate fucking...
unidentified
Professional.
joey diaz
If you ever have a night that you want to watch something, just watch the Rolling Stones.
Ole, ole, ole.
That's when they do the South American tour and they end up in Cuba.
Look at him.
And he fucking through South America.
This is him.
Yeah, no, this is him.
joe rogan
But this is the one that I saw.
joey diaz
Oh, this was the same night?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is in Austin.
So is this someone's cell phone footage?
jamie vernon
That's a really good cell phone.
It's something.
I don't know.
There's a few videos online of it.
joe rogan
It looks so good.
You know, cell phones are pretty fucking good right now.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's probably a cell phone.
joe rogan
Dude, it was so good.
But it wasn't just good.
It was like a moment.
Like I knew, I'm not gonna get to see this.
joey diaz
Ever again.
No, that's...
joe rogan
I don't think they're gonna tour.
I mean, I don't know if they're gonna keep going, but look how fit that guy is.
He's thin, but he's got muscle.
He's super fucking healthy.
joey diaz
So they never play back-to-back.
You do know that, right?
They never play back-to-back.
joe rogan
So they take nights off.
joey diaz
They take a night off in between.
They do three shows a week.
They plan it out perfect.
Nobody can get sore.
They're probably on some type of testosterone for the shows, like Alex Rodriguez.
I'm not putting anybody down.
I'm just telling you what I heard from a friend of mine.
joe rogan
You're talking to Captain Testosterone.
joey diaz
Right, right.
Captain Testosterone.
joe rogan
I'm a fan of it.
joey diaz
It's good stuff.
But they use it to recover.
joe rogan
Well, I think they probably use it just to stay alive, Joey.
To stay alive?
Yeah, yeah.
How does Keith Richards look?
I mean, he's alive.
Keith Richards has done more drugs than most of the bands combined.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
And was partying, like, years ago.
I mean, I don't know what he's doing now, but I knew people that partied with him ten years ago.
He parties still.
He's a fucking animal.
And he's a real artist.
I mean, he's a real fucking artist.
He played new music.
He played new music in front of a gigantic racetrack amphitheater.
I mean, this huge amphitheater at Circuit of the Americas.
It's fucking massive.
It was amazing, dude.
It was amazing, but it was also surreal.
Even coming home, I was like, God, did I see that?
I know I saw it.
I know I saw it, but it just felt surreal.
joey diaz
Now, you saw them in 2021, correct?
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I saw them in 78. I'm in the eighth grade, and I went to see that shit.
joe rogan
Wow.
joey diaz
And he came out with an American flag on, you know, fucking down in Philadelphia.
40 fucking years.
joe rogan
One of the nice things about living in Austin is we see a lot of music.
joey diaz
Oh, I know.
You got great music.
joe rogan
We go see music and I'm meeting all these new bands.
There's a lot of bands out here that are fucking badass.
That are just young guys who are just out here hustling.
Suzanne Santos out here now?
joey diaz
Suzanne Santos.
joe rogan
Yeah, Honey Honey.
joey diaz
Oh, she is?
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
Are they still together?
joe rogan
No, they're not.
No, she's solo now.
She's solo now.
He's doing his thing.
She's doing her thing.
But she's out here now.
And Gary Clark Jr. is out here.
So I've seen them perform live a couple of times.
It's amazing.
It does something for you that's different than seeing comedy.
It's good to see comedy.
It's good to see someone kill.
It feels good.
It gets you excited about comedy again.
But there's something about music that's different.
It's magic to me.
I don't know anything about playing music.
I don't know anything about singing.
I have no idea how to do that.
But they do that, and where they're doing it, this is incredible.
It's like they're expressing themselves in a way that is just...
It's not in my wheelhouse.
So I get to watch it just pure.
I don't even know when their fingers are moving.
I know that's what makes the noise.
I don't know what the fuck's happening.
I don't know shit about guitars.
But I get to watch Gary Clark and he's like, God damn!
You feel it.
You feel it when he's playing the guitar.
And when she's singing, she hits these fucking high notes and you're like, God!
That's a beautiful thing, seeing things live.
I always say about someone's comedy special, and they say, yeah, I saw their special on Comedy Central.
It's pretty funny.
I go, listen, see them live.
A special is basically just an advertisement to come see you live.
Because...
Especially is, at best, 60 or 70% of what seeing somebody live is.
You're missing everything.
It's like the difference between having sex and jerking off.
It's not the same.
It's, you know, seeing someone live is, it's a feeling.
Like you're in the room with all the other people that are experiencing it together.
It's not just you're seeing someone, that they're there, but it's also there's a vibe where everybody is there enjoying it.
That's part of what live entertainment is.
That's the thing that I really missed during COVID. I didn't realize how much I missed it until we started doing it again.
I was like, oh, it's like now I got my vitamins again.
Like you're taking your vitamin, like the vitamin of killing, the vitamin of like making this whole audience of people have a good time.
Like, you're responsible for their moment, this hour and a half block of time.
You're responsible for that.
You gotta go out there and have a good fucking time with them.
And they leave there and they go, that was fun.
That was great.
They feel good.
They go to work the next day.
We had a great fucking time.
Oh my god, we laughed so hard.
You know, and that's how I felt.
joey diaz
The best is when you go, what did he say?
And they go, we don't remember.
It don't fucking matter.
joe rogan
Right, right.
joey diaz
It don't matter.
And that's why, for years, and we discussed this ten episodes ago, I wouldn't send a tape.
I refuse.
We need to see a tape.
No tape.
No tape, no tape, no tape, no tape.
And in my mind, I always knew that.
That, for me, I always felt better when you came to see me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I didn't like shooting a special.
It was too free, whatever.
It wasn't for me.
But live, I could always get you.
If you come see me live, something might happen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
In the middle, a waitress drops a bun, some drunk chick gets up and...
joe rogan
If we ever do a special with you, what we're gonna do is, you're gonna do a whole week.
I'm gonna film every show.
That's the move.
We'll do it out here when we open up.
We'll film every show.
So that you don't feel like it's a filming.
That's why I always do four.
I film four shows.
I would never do a special at a giant place because you can't sell enough tickets to do four shows.
I want to do it in a place like a club or a small theater where I could do four shows because that way you know it's just a show.
You do the first one, you feel loose, and you go, all right, we got it in the can, and then just have a good time.
And then it's just having a good time and then decide which one you want to be, you know, represent your special.
That's what we got to do with you.
joey diaz
It's just weird how when you do stand-up, for me, I always felt better when you came to see me.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joey diaz
I always felt that I gave you everything I got.
If you didn't like me then, okay.
We'll shake hands and part friends and I'll never, but...
joe rogan
But a tape?
And also a tape when you know you're being filmed.
That's the thing.
It's a tape when you know you're being filmed.
It's like, I always point to Bill Hicks' Revelations.
Because Bill Hicks did this special in the UK. And he did it, and it was, I think they did one, they just filmed one.
And it was...
It just felt a little tense.
Just felt like a little tense.
Like I'd seen him live and it was amazing, but I saw that material in the special and I was like, it's just a little tense.
Because I think, you know, you're realizing, okay, here it is, this is it, go!
And you have one hour to film your HBO special.
I'm pretty sure that's the case.
I don't think they filmed two.
I might be wrong.
But it just felt tense.
You know, and I've done them before where I did one, just one hour.
Just film one, ready, go.
And it's just, ugh, not that good.
The best way is doing, like, four.
Because then it's like a show.
You know, but live is the way.
Live is, for comedy, it's not even close.
For music, it's not even close.
When you go to see a band live, you know, you feel it.
You feel the music.
You literally feel it in your skin, you know?
joey diaz
The smells.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
The odors, the fucking, you know, I went to great concerts growing up, and I think that's what, because I never went to a comedy show before I got on stage.
joe rogan
Really?
Never?
Did you get on stage at just a regular open mic night?
First time?
Which club?
joey diaz
Comedy Works in Denver.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
joey diaz
But I had, this was my thing.
All right, let's just get it on the table.
Whenever I saw Pryor, uh, David, what was the guy, comic when we were kids?
David, he had like a nose.
David something.
joe rogan
David Brenner?
joey diaz
David Brenner.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
You know, those were my guys.
Freddie Prince.
This is what I thought.
I always thought that you just called the Comedy Works one night and go, hi, I'm Joe Diaz, I'm Joe Rogan, whatever.
Are you guys busy on Tuesday nights?
Do you think I'd come down and shoot a special?
And they're like, yeah, we'll have the camera ready for you.
I really thought that you just walked into a comedy club and talked for an hour.
Then you went home.
That was my first introduction to comedy.
joe rogan
So you didn't think they wrote anything down?
joey diaz
No!
I thought that they just fucking went in there and said, let's go!
joe rogan
Well, you know why?
Because you were used to being around a bunch of people that were great at telling stories.
joey diaz
No, we're talking about the fourth grade.
I'm hanging out with a friend of mine.
I know nothing.
I know about the guy named David Brennan that I see on NBC from time to time.
And all of a sudden, I'm at my friend's house, and we're trying to listen to the Beatles' White Album.
All right?
I want to listen to the Beatles' White Album, yeah.
We were excited about listening to the Beatles' White Album.
We go up to his house.
We put the fucking first song on.
His mom gives us, like, Kool-Aid, and she goes, I gotta go.
Ten minutes later his brother comes out, and he's a fucking junkie.
And I'm not talking about a boozer.
I'm talking about a heroin junkie.
And he comes out of the room like, what the fuck's going on out here?
What are you assholes listening to?
We're like, the Beatles.
You know, we're all excited.
Like, we want to be cool.
And he's like, the Beatles?
What the fuck is that shit?
Take that off.
And he put on a Richard Pryor album.
And that's all I needed to hear.
My head fucking exploded.
So I knew David Brenner.
And I maybe knew one other guy that I can't remember what his name was.
And all of a sudden, I remember the first two Richard Browns I got was Something I Said, and the two with, you know, what's going on here?
And the two of them after that.
joe rogan
Jamie's got background music for us.
joey diaz
So it had to be like 75 and 76, and that's all I knew.
So I brought those albums to my friend's house in North Bergen when I first moved there, like the Canellas.
To this day, whenever I talk to Ray, he's like, you know, my mother's still mad at you.
About you bringing that album to my house in the eighth grade.
Because it was fucking crazy.
But that's what I thought.
I thought that you just walked into a place and did comedy.
Before I got locked up, my buddy won a ticket.
Two tickets to see the guy from Boston with the dry pan comedy.
joe rogan
Steven Wright?
joey diaz
Steven Wright.
And I met him there.
It was late.
So I walked in and I caught the last 35 minutes maybe.
That was my first stand-up comedy show.
joe rogan
What year was that?
joey diaz
87. Wow.
Then I got arrested in 87. Alright?
And I came out.
And I'll never forget that he took me again.
He goes, do you want to go see this guy again?
I go, yeah.
And this time I sat for 15 minutes and I walked out because he said the same jokes when I saw him the first time.
And I like Stephen Wright.
I got nothing against him.
I just thought he did the same material.
And I remember I wasn't even doing comedy.
Comedy wasn't even on my radar.
And I said to myself, if I ever do comedy, I'm never doing the same material.
Like, I fucking knew that then.
Like, fuck this.
And I wasn't even thinking about doing comedy at that point.
And it wasn't until the arrest, after the arrest, when I got out, that comedy was in the horizon, and then I still put it off for two years.
But I thought you basically called the club and just went down there and did an hour.
joe rogan
So you thought that Stephen Wright doing the same material was crazy?
joey diaz
And I like Stephen Wright.
joe rogan
Well, listen, I mean, when you see comics, like, that's one of the things that a lot of the kids that worked at the door, at the store, told me.
They go, it's crazy, like, you see comics, like, great comics coming over and over and over again.
You see them do the same act over and over again.
It kind of takes the magic away, but it shows you how it's done.
You get an education in it.
That's one thing about that thing, that gig for up-and-coming comics.
Mitzi was very smart in that she hired comics to work the door and hired comics to do the ticket booth and work inside the club so you could see great comics over and over again.
And you would have your spots, your little spots you would do after the show was over or on potluck night.
But you got a chance to be there.
Maybe you weren't getting paid as a comic yet.
Maybe you're just a door guy.
But you're still working at the fucking comedy store.
And you're getting a chance to see great comedians work out their material.
It's like you never would get that opportunity to see them go up in front of 30 people.
Like you get a chance to see Chris Rock walk on stage in front of 30 people at 1am on a Tuesday.
He will just show up.
And he'll pull into the parking lot and will go, hey, can I go on stage?
And they're like, yeah, go ahead.
Chris Rock would just go up to 30 fucking people and work out his shit, fuck around.
And if you're a comic and you're a door guy and you've been doing comedy like two years and you're just trying to survive, you're eating ramen every day.
And meanwhile, you're 13 feet away from one of the greatest comics of all time, which popped in at 1 a.m.
on a Tuesday to do a set.
And you get to just sit there and watch, like, wow!
This is crazy!
Like, I remember the first time I saw someone famous on stage at the store.
It was Damon Wayans.
Damon Wayans was the first guy I ever saw that was, like, a real...
Like, I'd seen guys who were at the store when I first moved there that were, you know, decent comics, road comics, club comics, you know, guys who had been around for a while, but I hadn't seen anybody that was, like, really good that had been, you know, on HBO or anything like that.
Other than Dom Herrera, I'd seen Dom Herrera live a bunch of times.
But to see him at the comedy store like that, it was like, wow.
To see him working out material, it was like, whoa, this is crazy.
Like, you're getting a chance to see these guys craft what you know is going to be a great HBO comedy hour someday.
And you get to watch it.
And when I was fucking 26 or 27, whatever I was, just a young dummy standing there watching all this go down like, wow.
This is crazy.
It's a beautiful opportunity for people.
For young comics, like, that opportunity that the store provided was different than any other environment.
Because we were all, like, everybody there was treated as a comic.
The door people, the guys who parked the cars, everybody who worked the bar.
Like, how about Punky?
She's on Saturday Night Live now.
She used to work the bar forever.
There's always our friend Punky.
Now all of a sudden she's on Saturday Night Live.
That happened with so many comics who were there as employees and made their way through and became very successful.
It's one of the beautiful things about that place and one of the incredible...
Mitzi's understanding of maniacs and her ability to manage all these fucking loonies and get them together and figure out how to extract the best comedy out of them.
It was amazing, that lady.
I mean, I think all the time, where the fuck would I be if I never met that lady?
joey diaz
Can you believe this?
Can you believe that?
I feel the same fucking way.
Ever since I left L.A., I have no desire to do stand-up.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
joey diaz
And it's because of the comedy stuff.
Because I don't have it in my life anymore.
She had the recipe.
I fucking think about it.
joe rogan
It was a perfect recipe.
joey diaz
I light a candle for her every Monday.
I put a glass of water for her.
Yeah, I took it into my Cuban act.
She's in my fucking Santeria life now.
I light a candle for every Monday.
I got a picture of her.
I fucking put a glass of water for her.
And I realized how important it was for me to walk in there.
At the end of the day, the reason why I have you as a brother, my wife as my wife, my daughter, and my comedy career is because of the fucking comedy store.
joe rogan
It's a big factor.
joey diaz
It's a big factor in my life.
So when I went, dog, I went and said goodbye to the comedy store.
I want you to know that.
The building was closed.
I went down there.
I sat on the stairs.
I smoked a joint by myself.
There was nobody there, not a soul there.
Everything was still closed.
I walked over.
I rubbed my name on the building.
And I said, I'll see you when I see you, but it's never gonna be.
And it's never gonna be the way it was when Dyson Kennison were there.
The guys that got us there.
They got me there.
I took a stand-up comedy course in January of 91 that consisted of three weeks at the University of Colorado.
The teacher's name was Jeff Harms.
Good guy.
And after the three weeks, he said to me, listen, out of the 15 people, maybe you and the one girl showed a little promise.
What are you going to do?
And I go, I don't know.
I think I'm going to get on stage.
He goes, well, why don't you go?
There's a new comedy club opening.
Go work for them.
I'll call the guy right now, and you can go work for him.
It was in Westminster, Colorado.
And what the fuck was it called?
I forget.
Whits End.
joe rogan
Wits end.
joey diaz
Wits end.
And it was a B room, you know, but I went in there.
I started as a doorman.
Then the sound guy quit, so I became the doorman and the sound guy.
Then the bar back quit, and I became the bar back, the sound guy, and the fucking door guy.
And then I went to Wendy, and I said, I want to get on stage, and Wendy put me up on a Tuesday.
The owner from Whitset found out and fired me.
joe rogan
Wow.
joey diaz
Because he didn't want no comics working there.
So he goes, you have to put your two weeks in.
I can't have a comedian working here.
But, again, those four months working at...
joe rogan
Wait a minute, he fired because you were a comedian?
joey diaz
Yeah, he didn't like it.
He didn't want that in his club.
He wanted normal people to work the club.
joe rogan
Oh, I thought he fired you because you did a set at a rival club.
joey diaz
No, no.
And then he was one of the partners in that club.
joe rogan
That's so silly.
joey diaz
Yeah, but one of the partners on that club was a guy named McKelvey.
And McKelvey had been in a comedy troupe with Steve Martin.
He was also fucking always on The Tonight Show.
And he owned that club and a club in Denver called McKelvey's.
And he took a liking to me and he used to take me on the road with him in the beginning.
He's the one that brought me to stage when I met Judy Brown at Colorado Springs.
joe rogan
Judy Brown was the lady who had that book, right?
No, that's Judy Carter.
joey diaz
Judy Carter.
joe rogan
That's right.
joey diaz
Judy Carter.
joe rogan
Judy Brown's Judy Marmel.
joey diaz
Yes, Judy Marmel.
joe rogan
That's Burt's manager.
joey diaz
Burt, yes.
joe rogan
And Sebastian's.
joey diaz
I think Whitney, too.
But it's funny how it was full circle.
Like, I started watching.
And it was a great education.
Because I came from a society of comedy that you listened.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
You didn't watch.
I listened to...
And then I got the one...
So I got the first three Richard Pryor albums.
I don't know if they're the first three.
And then I got a George Carlin one.
And then I had to go for fucking the man Red Foxx.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, man.
joey diaz
So honest to God, like I've never stolen a joke.
But when I was 12 and 11, I did Red Fox at every party.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I did that too.
joey diaz
You know, Wash Your Ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joey diaz
That whole thing.
And then I did Delirious.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
joey diaz
But my all-time favorite was The Wino Meets Dracula by Richard Pryor.
I could say that head to fucking toe backwards and frontwards.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
You know, but that was my A-game.
When I met a girl...
You ever hear about Winos and Dracula?
And I would drop into...
And what the fuck are you talking about?
I would go into the Fox and the whole thing.
Richard Pryor to me was such a...
Because he cursed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
He talked about drugs.
He talked about all this shit that I was like, you don't talk about this.
joe rogan
He was vulnerable to...
joey diaz
Yeah, you don't talk about this.
Who talks about this shit?
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I always watch it when it's on.
I give it like 10 minutes live on the Sunset Strip.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
joey diaz
It's been on a lot lately.
It was on a lot during the pandemic, so I'll watch it here and there.
joe rogan
You know, that was when I realized what comedy was.
I went to see it when I was in high school.
My parents took me.
I was probably 15. And we were in the theater.
And while we were there, maybe I was 14, something like that.
We were in the theater.
I think I was a freshman year of high school, maybe sophomore.
We're in the theater and he was just on stage talking.
That's all he was doing was talking.
And people were falling out of their chair.
Just falling out of their chair.
Couldn't breathe.
I couldn't believe how hard I was laughing.
And I remember the moment.
I'll never forget.
I remember turning in my chair and looking around at all these people laughing.
I was like, this is crazy.
This guy's just talking.
I'm like, how is he doing this?
How is he doing this by just talking?
This is the craziest thing I've ever seen.
And he just changed the way I thought about comedy.
I'd only seen comedy on television before that, like, you know, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.
You know, Richard Jennings would go up and do a set, and I would see that, and I'd be like, wow!
But to see this, to see his special on a giant screen was almost as good as being there, because you had a whole audience with you.
So the audience was laughing along.
It was the same kind of feel as like, that's a thing that comics should really fucking do, is put their specials and make a movie again.
I know a few guys have done it, like Kevin Hart has released and stuff like that.
I think Gabriel released his stuff in the movie theater.
But that's really a good way to see comedy.
A good way to see comedy is in a fucking movie theater.
Because then you're laughing with all the people.
When you're at home, it's okay.
It's fun with your wife or with a friend.
Watch a special.
But I think the best way is live.
The second best is in a movie theater.
And when I saw Richard Pryor live at the Sunset Strip, it completely changed what I thought about comedy.
I couldn't believe how powerful it was.
I couldn't believe this guy.
I had seen all these funny movies.
I remember thinking about all the different comedy movies that I saw that I loved.
You know, Blazing Saddles and all these different films.
There were just great, hilarious comedies.
Nothing was this funny.
Nothing was this funny.
It was funny the whole time.
There was no set up.
There was no, like, they gotta go through this scene and then funny shit happens.
It was just funny.
No Siren Live was that funny.
Nothing I'd ever seen was that funny.
It was incredible.
It was incredible.
joey diaz
It did come across, really.
I went to see that at the Lowe's in Jersey City.
unidentified
Wow.
joey diaz
Me and a bunch of buddies took a bus.
The number one bus went down.
It was fucking just tremendous.
And it stuck with me.
It stuck with me so much, I had to try it.
joe rogan
Well, that was also, we all knew that Richard Pryor had just survived getting lit on fire.
So that was all over the news that Richard Pryor was lit on fire.
Like, what happened?
And then he had that movie, JoJo Dancer.
And in that movie, he lit himself on fire.
So it was always like a weird, we didn't know, like, did he accidentally get caught on fire or did he light himself on fire in the movie?
I believe, isn't that what happened in the movie?
I believe he lit himself on fire.
joey diaz
But that was, I think, when you said he was very vulnerable, I think that was the line of the movie that just made me cry.
When he was walking, he took a sip of something, and he goes, you motherfuckers don't know, you don't know what I know that you motherfuckers been saying about me.
And right there, you fucking lost it!
Because that was the new joke.
And he goes, yeah, get in the lighter.
What's this, Richard Pryor running down the street?
I fucking lost it.
When he goes, I know you motherfuckers been talking about me.
Right there, I was like, oh no.
And he took that lighter out.
I'm like, that's fucking funny.
That's real.
joe rogan
Did you ever see the one that he did in Long Beach?
He filmed that one.
I think it's just Richard Pryor live.
He films it in Long Beach.
And some dude...
At the beginning of the show, like, the audience isn't even fully sat when he goes on stage at the beginning of the film.
And this dude gets up with a fucking camera and gets, like, right up to the stage.
And Richard Pryor's fucking with this guy while he's taking a picture of him while the show was going on.
In that...
You ever do that place with me?
That one theater in Long Beach?
It's a beautiful theater.
joey diaz
Across from the...
joe rogan
It's in that whole nice area of Long Beach with restaurants and that's it.
So this is the beginning of this.
So he's going on stage, he's saying hi to everybody, but people are still kind of sitting down, see?
They're moving in to take their seats when he goes on stage at the beginning of his film.
Give me some volume, Jamie.
Look at this.
unidentified
So look at this.
joe rogan
He's fucking with people at the beginning of his special.
People are sitting down.
unidentified
White people don't care, Jack.
Just come out anyways.
Say, fuck it.
We're going.
I don't give a shit.
joe rogan
So look at, who films a special where the audience is lit up and people are sitting down?
unidentified
I saw the police had some brother jacked up when we was coming in here.
Niggas' hands way up here.
I'm like, huh?
What?
They're searching the ship.
Bet they take him away to jail.
Go to jail in Long Beach.
It's a motherfucker.
Where you at?
I'm in Long Beach.
Shit, we ain't coming down there to get your ass out.
joe rogan
Like, who does a special like this where people are still being seated?
It's weird, right?
joey diaz
I don't think they knew.
joe rogan
Did they have an opening act for him, you think?
He might not have had an opening act.
joey diaz
Maybe Mooney.
joe rogan
This concert was recorded live at the Terrace Theater in Long Beach, California.
I don't know if he had an opening act.
I mean, I don't know how they did it back then.
They might have just been Richard Pryor, you know?
joey diaz
And she's doing really well.
joe rogan
The ex-wife?
joey diaz
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah?
That's good.
She was always at the store with him towards the end.
unidentified
She's good people.
joey diaz
She's good people.
joe rogan
When he would go up and Marilyn Martinez's husband David and Chewy used to get him to the stage.
Remember?
She was always with him.
joey diaz
She's a good lady.
She sends me stuff still.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Yeah, they're doing a lot of stuff with Richard Pryor now.
joe rogan
Well, I know his company sent me a bunch of t-shirts and shit and sweatshirts.
joey diaz
I wear those all the time.
Maria Alvarado, yeah, they sent me the wanted shirt and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I love all that stuff.
joe rogan
The one with him doing this with the horns over his ears?
joey diaz
No, listen, man.
When it came to comedy, I loved Pryor.
I loved everything that went with it.
Pryor gave me the fucking passport to snort coke and jump up and down.
That was it.
He's my dog.
That's it.
It's Pryor.
I like Colin.
I fucking love Bill Hicks.
I adore Rodney Dangerfield.
That's my other fucking...
That's plan B. But the guy that brought me to the dance when I saw him was Andrew Dice Clay.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
joey diaz
That motherfucker still makes me laugh on Instagram with his craziness.
He still makes me laugh.
joe rogan
Whenever I get a text from him, I can't believe Dice Clay's my friend.
joey diaz
Yeah, no, I'm the same way.
joe rogan
When I was 19, I was dating this girl, and we were sitting in front of my house, we were sitting in my car, and I had a cassette player, and we were playing, I think it was just called Dice, the first one, the first cassette.
We were crying laughing in my car.
I'll never forget that moment.
Just sitting in front of my house with this girl and we're just cackling, playing this cassette.
It's Dice Clay.
And every now and then I get a text from him and it's all caps.
Don't ever forget who you are!
unidentified
Oh!
joey diaz
He called me as I was getting off the plane in Teterboro Airport.
When I moved here.
So we were just getting off the plane, loading everything into the car.
Alex, the driver, Alex.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, that guy.
joey diaz
My phone's ringing.
I'm like, who the fuck did this be?
And it was Andrew.
He's like, I think you're doing a good move for your family.
Because he was in the city.
I think he's still in the city.
joe rogan
Is he in Manhattan?
unidentified
Yeah.
Really?
joey diaz
He's been staying there the whole fucking time.
joe rogan
Does he still have the Bell's palsy with his face?
I don't know.
joey diaz
He looks good.
He looks good in the Instagram pictures he's been putting up lately.
I haven't spoken to him.
Yeah, he looks good.
joe rogan
Oh, he's smiling, so he doesn't have it anymore?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Good.
Beautiful.
Yeah, they say that.
Dom had that for a while, and it goes away.
Like, whatever makes your face fucking go numb for a little bit.
He said he was sleeping on his hand, and that did it.
How crazy is that?
Like he was, he fell asleep like on his fist and he woke up and his fucking face wouldn't work.
Like how crazy is that?
joey diaz
That's crazy.
Dom or Andrew?
joe rogan
Andrew.
Pretty sure.
That's what Eleanor told me.
But Dom got it in a different way.
Dom got it years ago.
He just, for some reason, his face like started drooping on one side and they said there's nothing we could do.
So he'd go on stage with that and make fun of himself.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
joey diaz
You know what's fucking crazy when I think about this?
That I actually talked.
A fucking state corrections institution, like went in there by myself, no attorney, and said, can I rent out?
What are you doing for the fucking inmates on New Year's Eve?
And they're like, nothing.
I go, no.
You got to do something for the inmates.
I'm in the halfway house.
I go, you got to do something for the inmates on New Year's Eve.
They're like, well, why don't you pay for it?
I go, I will.
I go, I want to rent out the community room.
They're like, give us 50 bucks.
I go, fine.
I brought a VCR, and I invited everybody.
And the fucking 98 Invicts to watch Andrew Dice Clay.
joe rogan
Really?
Which one?
joey diaz
The first one, Hickory Dickory Doc, Some Chick Sucked My Cock, you know, the whole fucking thing.
And I was just blown the fuck away.
I was blown.
If I would have seen Andrew while the special was still hot, I would have beat him up because I felt he had stole a lot of jokes from me.
What?
Trust me, you know I'm out of my mind.
When I... All right, so I always thought about stand-up.
I was thinking about it.
I told a friend of mine, Manny, in bold, I'm thinking about doing stand-up.
And he's the one that goes, you got to see this guy.
So the first time I seen Andrew Dice Clay, I'm like, I was depressed.
I'm like, I think that shit all the time.
The one line I'll tell you when he goes, you ever see those guys that come up to you with a flower?
Would you like to buy a flower for the lady?
Yeah, so I can plant it in your ass.
All that shit, that's me in my mind.
This guy's selling flowers.
Go fuck himself.
So, you know when you're fucked up on drugs.
You blame people for it.
joe rogan
You think helicopters are following you?
joey diaz
Yeah, so I'm like...
Fucking Andrew, he stole my joke.
Like in the beginning, I wasn't even doing stand-up, guys.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
joey diaz
I was just thinking about it.
And I saw Andrew's special, and then I went and hunted down all his shit.
And I hunted down the New Year's Eve in Philly, which is Buckwild.
joe rogan
Buckwild.
joey diaz
Buckwild.
joe rogan
That's at the peak of his powers.
joey diaz
That was the peak of his power.
And then I found the Rodney shit.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
joey diaz
And the Rodney shit was what pushed me on stage with Hicks, Kennison.
joe rogan
Lenny Clark.
joey diaz
Lenny Clark.
The guy.
joe rogan
Robert Schimmel.
joey diaz
Schimmel.
Fucking funny motherfucker.
joe rogan
Schimmel was amazing.
joey diaz
Those guys are really all together.
If you look at that special, I came out to be all those people having a child because I looked at those specials.
I analyzed that special so much.
By the way, have you seen the Fat Tuesday thing?
joe rogan
What's the Fat Tuesday thing?
joey diaz
Fat Tuesday, they have a show on Amazon Prime.
joe rogan
Like a documentary?
joey diaz
Yeah.
Joe Torre, Guy Torre.
You know, it's okay.
It's okay.
I mean, I'm happy they did it because that was one of the fucking Dog, when I first discovered Fat Tuesday, I was selling...
I was giving away free tickets at the store on the phone.
I was working upstairs with Enz Mitchell and Shay Matash.
unidentified
Wow.
joey diaz
All right?
And I never forget the faxes.
Every Tuesday, you'd get a fax in those days from the industry that was coming to Fat Tuesday.
And it was 10 pages.
joe rogan
Wow.
joey diaz
It was 10 pages.
I'll never forget them rolling it up and going, look at this shit.
NBC, Warner Brothers.
Then they have the fucking documentary.
It's about how they went to look at Chris Tucker.
But found the other kid for American History X. And then Bruce Willis went to Fat Tuesday to see Joe Torre.
And he ended up hiring, what's his name, for The Fifth Dimension, The Fifth Element.
joe rogan
That was Chris Tucker.
joey diaz
Chris Tucker, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, man.
And they go to the beginning and they talk about...
The funniest fucking brother of all time.
Memes Kids.
That's how the L.A. scene started.
joe rogan
Robin Harris.
unidentified
Oh!
joey diaz
The first hour was about Robin Harris.
And the tears come out of your eyes because you're like, that fucking dude was funny and raw.
joe rogan
Robin Harris was a monster.
Dog.
joey diaz
And they show the footage of what he would do at the club.
I went down there one time.
The live act theater.
Wasn't no good for Uncle Joey.
joe rogan
No?
joey diaz
No.
Comedy act theater.
Yeah, because it was in Crenshaw.
So those dudes hung out at the store that robbed the bank.
And they had a cell phone place down there, so I would bring them hot cell phones, and they're like, you gotta go do the comedy act theater player.
And they took me to the comedy act theater one night.
I ate a bag of dicks.
joe rogan
That was the early days of Joey Diaz.
Like, I always said that you're the first guy that I ever saw that, like, hit a switch and went from having rough sets a lot, you couldn't figure out how to be yourself on stage, Killing like you went you you jumped like five levels It was the weirdest thing I ever seen like you figured out how to be yourself on stage and I don't know what it was and I've always had my suspicions that it was like you got Tired of waiting for
like Hollywood to cast you in something and you got tired of like dealing with agents and and like holding yourself back and And you allowed yourself to be yourself, the Joey that we always knew in the back bar or in the parking lot.
You were always the guy who was making everybody laugh.
We would just gather around and talk shit with you.
And you would go on stage and you would tense up.
You remember those days?
joey diaz
I didn't know that that was what people wanted to see.
I thought people wanted to see me doing an impersonation of John Mulaney.
Because I love John Mulaney.
I didn't know who John Mulaney was then.
joe rogan
But that kind of traditional stand-up comedian.
joey diaz
It was hosting at the store.
If I have to tell you what really turned the corner for me, and I hope young comics are listening so they know what this is, it was 50% of that, no, let's lie to you, 30% of that was hosting at the store, 70% and a strong 70%.
joe rogan
Hosting those open mic nights?
joey diaz
Those open mic nights at the comedy store.
But I think what really showed me the light in comedy was the late night sets following Paul Mooney and you.
Those sets right there are sets of, You need to make that $15.
You need the $15 so that you had to wait for four people.
They would do the show if there was four people.
But forget about the $15.
It was the ability to go down there with a plan, sit there through four comics, and realize my plan's not gonna work.
joe rogan
And you had to squeeze blood out of a rock.
joey diaz
And you had to turn whatever you were gonna say on stage.
And flip it, because Mooney was already gonna cover it, if it was topical.
You know, somebody who was there was gonna cover it, you were gonna cover it.
joe rogan
Mooney was always amazing with topical shit.
joey diaz
Right.
So topical, you lost it.
If you went down there and you had three jokes on a piece of paper and Mooney's up...
joe rogan
Remember when that plane went down in Florida in the swamps and Mooney had that whole bit about it like right afterwards?
joey diaz
He had a bit for that.
joe rogan
Of the lady clutching her purse.
They found an alligator eating her.
He just went right after it.
Like right after the plane crash.
Like, right after it.
joey diaz
When I moved to Jersey about a year ago, I went on a stand-up hunt to make me laugh again.
I wanted to learn how to do stand-up again.
And I went and listened to Paul Mooney race.
Paul Mooney Race is a very good ABCD stand-up comedy.
joe rogan
I've never seen that.
Is it a CD or is it a...
joey diaz
It's a CD. It came out, it's all...
joe rogan
It's all audio?
joey diaz
All audio.
OJ, the white bitch.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joey diaz
Yeah, that was 96, 95 maybe.
The cover of it is three brothers on the thing ready to run a race.
You know, and that's the album race.
joe rogan
Paul Mooney, when I was just starting out at the Comedy Store, you know, I would bring him up and I would just feel, like, so inadequate.
You know, I had to, like, give him his introductions.
I couldn't believe I was working with him.
I was fumbling with it.
Because I had known that he was Richard Pryor's head writer.
Like, he was a super well-respected comic.
And then one night, I went up, and it was late at night, and there was maybe, like, 10, 15 people in the audience.
I'm doing my set, and I'm getting after it.
There's only 10 or 15 people, but they're laughing.
I'm having fun, and I'm just committed to my material.
And I hear in the back of the room, I forget what I was talking about, but I'm like, oh my God, Paul Mooney is laughing.
I'm like, he's laughing.
And then I got off stage and he said to me, he goes, you're a real motherfucking comic.
He goes, you went up there.
He goes, there's 10 people in that crowd.
And he goes, and you gave them your full show.
He goes, these motherfuckers, they go in there and they kind of half-ass it and they dance around it because there's no one in the crowd.
Do your fucking show.
And he goes, and you fucking did your fucking show.
And I was like, whoa, holy shit.
You did your show, homie.
joey diaz
He hated when you fucked around.
joe rogan
He did not like when you didn't respect the art.
joey diaz
He didn't like it at all.
joe rogan
No.
joey diaz
He let you know it one time, and then if you adjust it...
And I adjusted.
I learned a lot from Paulman.
I learned a lot from you.
I learned a lot from Paul Mooney in those days.
There was a couple guys at the store.
Charlie Hill used to make me laugh, God rest his soul.
Charlie Hill was a great man.
A lot of old timers were wasting time and they were bitter.
They were blowing that over on us because we were the younger generation.
joe rogan
There was a problem with those guys.
joey diaz
And that's why I never wanted to become those guys.
I knew early on When shit gets that bad, you got to get out of comedy.
If you're going to walk around and get mad at Taylor Tomlinson because she got a standing ovation, you know, some new comedy, you got to cheer those motherfuckers on.
What about my little pot smoking girl?
joe rogan
What's your little pot smoking girl?
joey diaz
Fucking Wolfie.
A fucking great girl.
Who are you talking about?
I forget what her fucking name is.
jamie vernon
The Jackass Rachel.
joey diaz
Yeah, Rachel Wilson.
She just fucking blew up from Jackass.
I've never been so happy for somebody.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
joey diaz
That girl was out every night doing fucking jokes and this and that.
She gets this movie and she fucking ate lizards or something.
I haven't seen it yet.
joe rogan
The art form relies on new up-and-coming talent to be nurtured by the people that are already doing it.
You know, when people are coming up and they're killing it, you should be happy.
You should pump them up.
You should be excited about it.
You know, that's what we're all supposed to be doing.
joey diaz
Those older guys, the storm we got there, were not excited.
And I felt bad.
And the guys in the trips here, I did a year of triple runs with those guys.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Why are you going to go to LA? It's a waste of time.
I don't get any spots.
You don't get any spots?
No, maybe if I'm lucky I get one spot a month at the improv on Sunday nights and I got to sit there.
Okay, then maybe I won't go to LA. And I got to tell you something.
Every day I was in LA I would think of those fucking dudes and say, you guys just had the wrong mindset.
joe rogan
They did have the wrong mindset.
joey diaz
You were looking at it from a different concept, from a different...
When you're doing stand-up comedy, every day I got a spot at the store, I know it was a lot better than I was yesterday.
Didn't even mean anything about money.
I'm at the fucking store, Jack.
joe rogan
And you're working on your act.
joey diaz
Yeah, I'm at the fucking store, Jack.
joe rogan
Those days, the early days before you made it, you were working on your act and you were trying to get it to a place where you were a real professional, you know?
And you were trying to do it while you're, you know, you don't have You don't have any idea what's gonna happen.
You might be a failure.
You might try this and wind up doing construction or fucking who knows what's gonna happen to you.
You might not ever make it.
You might not be good enough.
joey diaz
You know what the original plan was?
To go to LA, stay there until they threw me out, stop in Colorado, shoot a few people.
And go to Jersey and fucking have the cops looking for me, okay?
That was the plan.
That was the plan.
Because I was already expecting failure.
I was already expecting to fuck it up some way.
I never thought I'd get in a TV show or a movie, so I figured I'd be an extra.
And when they put me on the store, dog, I get to look you in the face and tell you, there's a lot of times I pulled up to the store in the daytime, and there'd be 10 bottles of fucking booze out there, which I could have taken, and sold for half price at any liquor store in the area.
And I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't fucking do it.
I respected that motherfucker with all my heart.
I really did.
joe rogan
It was a church.
joey diaz
If I found $20 on the floor, different story.
You know what I'm saying?
You found it on the floor, you found the gram of coke on the floor, so be it.
But I took it that seriously.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I took it that seriously.
To me, it was that fucking intense.
You know, until this day, I love the improv.
I love Jamie at the Laugh Factory, fucking characters.
joe rogan
Body.
joey diaz
But fuck the comedy stores alive and kicking jack.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a special place to be.
In a really unique time.
You know, a really unique time for us as people.
I remember when I was a 21-year-old open mic comic in Boston, just starting out, I'd hear about the Comedy Store.
And it was like hearing about Mecca.
It was like the great attractor that was pulling you across the country.
So one of the things that happened to me when I got a television show is that I was just happy it was going to be in L.A., So I'd come to LA. Because I'd gone to the Comedy Store before, one time, and I sat there.
And I sat in the back of the crowd and I watched.
And it wasn't a good night.
It was like half-crowded.
And it was kind of dead.
And a lot of the comics that were up, there were those guys that we're talking about.
They didn't really have a lot of passion for it.
They were just trying to get a good laugh on stage.
And they wanted to be cast in a television show.
And it wasn't happening.
And they were getting older.
And it was just weird.
But when I went out there, I still felt like this is where I'm supposed to be.
I'm like, if I can just figure out a way to be a real professional here at the Comedy Store, then I can do it.
Because I was still touch and go.
Like, I was getting paid as a comic, I was doing the road, you know, I was getting some gigs, but I was alright.
Sometimes I'd be good, sometimes I'd suck.
It wasn't solid yet.
And then when I came to the store and Mitzi passed me, I was like, holy shit.
I'm a professional comedian now.
I'm a professional comedian at the lineup at the fucking comedy store.
And then you got the chance to see all these comics performing.
You got to see Dice.
Dice would go up and just fuck around with people for hours.
Just go on stage and just fuck around.
Like, no plan, didn't give a shit, went on stage smoking cigarettes, just talking shit.
joey diaz
I fucking loved him on Sunday nights.
And I would host and I would call him and go, Andrew, you gotta come down tonight.
What do you mean I gotta come down?
You gotta come down!
The place is sold out, and they're there for you.
The place wasn't sold out, and nobody knew Andrew was coming.
But I had to get him down there.
And he's a real student of the game.
What do you mean it's a Sunday night?
You're the one that told me you gotta get on stage every night.
All right, all right, I'll be down there.
And he come down, and I remember one fucking Sunday night, there were these Chinese guys heckling him and shit, and he was talking about fucking going to a restaurant and eating.
And he shit blood for three days.
And all of a sudden he stopped and he goes, hey, it was maybe your uncle's restaurant.
Like he just did beautiful things at the store where I learned about timing.
Another time I'm driving by the store in the afternoon, one in the afternoon, I see a ton of cars in there.
I go, maybe they're shooting something.
Maybe they're giving away a free lunch.
That was the mentality.
And I pulled up, cars all in the back.
I hear Jeff Scott playing the piano.
And I look to see who it is, and it's Andrew up on stage with sunglasses singing about the color of his ball sauce.
And there's a bunch of fucking people in the audience at one of the afternoons.
And they're just staring at him like, what the fuck?
The color of my ball sauce.
And he's like, cut it.
Jeff, hit it again.
And Jeff is playing the piano, and they're having a fucking great time.
And I'm like, we didn't talk.
I stayed away from Andrew.
For a year and a half.
joe rogan
Were you there when he was doing a thing where he would go on stage and not talk?
joey diaz
Yes.
Yes.
He told me to do it once.
He told me to go up there and not say a word for ten minutes.
And I'm like, come on, man.
No, do it right now.
I think I lasted like two and a half minutes.
joe rogan
He's so crazy.
He would do that all the time.
He was just having fun.
But he was having, like, it made himself laugh.
Like, he didn't give a shit, like, whether or not other people thought it was funny.
joey diaz
And if you think about what stand-up is at the end of the day, is you making yourself laugh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Because I've learned a lot since I haven't been doing stand-up.
Okay?
I've learned a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
You think about shit.
You process shit.
I haven't had a chance to process anything since I was 16 years old.
The last year and a half was just processing of what the fuck just happened?
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
I came out of college.
I lost a child.
I got married.
And next thing you know, I'm at the fucking comedy store.
And next thing you know, I'm with you.
And next thing you know, I'm with Adam Sandler.
What the fuck just happened?
How did this happen?
I was a junkie!
How the fuck did this happen?
So the last...
And I gotta tell you something.
The people...
Mitzi Shaw was a genius.
From A to B, A to Z. From the three-minute audition...
To the fucking, you know, the 18-minute spots with a two-minute light.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Everything was just genius.
Everything about what we went through was genius.
joe rogan
Well, she had been around comedy in a time where the comedy club itself was a new thing.
You know, like being married to a comic, like her husband Sammy was a comic, Paulie's dad, and she'd been around comedy.
Like, she knew comedy.
She's like the most important figure in comedy that's not a comedian of all time.
Don't you think?
Yeah.
joey diaz
And dog, if I would've listened to her from the beginning, I would've been taken off from day one.
I didn't listen to her.
joe rogan
Remember when she used to call you Fat Baby?
joey diaz
Yeah, and then she used to put on the fucking lineup.
joe rogan
Shit, Fat Baby was on the lineup!
There was a photo of, somebody grabbed a screenshot of a photo back when you were called Fat Baby.
joey diaz
I used to talk with her all the time, man.
It was the best chats.
Oh, fat baby.
unidentified
Oh, you have to dress up like Fidel and go on stage.
joey diaz
I would go, Mitch, I'm not dressing up like Fidel.
Where I come from, they're anti-fucking revolutionaries.
If they see that picture of me with a Fidel suit, I ain't making it back.
I can't go back to Jersey.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't do that.
joey diaz
But just everything, you know...
joe rogan
Just like Fidel is such a crazy...
joey diaz
Yeah, just like Fidel and go up there on Sunday nights.
joe rogan
There it is.
Fat baby.
Look at that.
12-15 spot.
Look at that lineup.
joey diaz
Look at that.
joe rogan
Wow.
Aaron Cater, Bobby Lee, Argus Hamilton.
Argus Hamilton's still throwing it down.
How about that?
Rick Ingram, Shay Matosh, Sam Tripoli, Sklar Brothers.
joey diaz
Brian Ernst is really fucking putting the pieces together.
joe rogan
Kurt Fox, Maz Jobrani.
joey diaz
He's out there still alive.
joe rogan
I love Maz Jobrani.
joey diaz
Brian Holtzman.
Did Brian go back?
joe rogan
He's back and forth.
joey diaz
Okay, so he's back and forth.
Good.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's...
I mean, we had the situation with the club where the first club spot we had was no good.
So we had to bail and get a new spot.
And that just took so much time.
This whole process of setting up a comedy club has been really fascinating.
joey diaz
Yeah, people think you just throw three bricks up.
joe rogan
No, it takes time, but fortunately we've been able to work here at Vulcan and have a good time and doing road gigs.
It's fun.
We're having fun.
Tony Inchcliffe's out here killing it.
Got a lot of guys that have been rotating in and out of town.
Brian Simpson comes down a lot.
Derek Poston's here now.
David Lucas is here all the time.
Adam Segura's here.
Yeah, Tom Segura's been killed.
joey diaz
Killing it.
joe rogan
That guy's got a crazy schedule.
His schedule's out of control.
joey diaz
He's gone for broke, that motherfucker.
But he's got an endgame.
He's got a plan.
Edmund Burton and all those guys.
joe rogan
His act is tight as fuck.
We did some arenas together.
He came with me with some of the Chappelle shows, too.
He's murdering, bro.
Murdering.
He's murdering.
joey diaz
He doesn't want to shoot a special or anything, he told me.
joe rogan
No?
joey diaz
I go, when are you shooting a Netflix?
He goes, I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
He's just enjoying himself.
He's got a nice studio out here now.
They're all set up.
You see, they put video of...
They got a set that's just set up for Two Bears, One Cave with him and Kreischer.
So that's a set.
And your mom's house is a set.
They got multiple sets.
You go over there, it's like a production studio.
joey diaz
And Bert's down here a lot.
joe rogan
Bert's down here, I think, once a week.
I think he's coming in once a week.
If not once a week, he's most certainly coming in once a month, because they filmed that show together, and Bert just flies in.
Bert's an animal.
He doesn't give a fuck about traveling.
He doesn't give a fuck.
He is one of the nicest fucking human beings I've ever met in my life.
If Bert has a bad thing to say about you, that's not good, man.
That's not a good sign.
He is so nice.
joey diaz
We had a nice little family up there.
You know, Bert lived around the corner from me, man, and I got to just see him in action.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
joey diaz
He's a great guy.
Ari's doing great.
He's doing a lot better than he was doing.
He started turning up the heat a little bit, doing some more podcasting shit.
Yeah.
Yoga with Ari.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, Ari's doing a lot of great shit.
We do a podcast together with Mark Norman and Shane Gillis and Ari and me.
We do it like once a month.
We'll be doing it once a month.
We were going to call it the cuddle party, but then it became Protect Our Parks because Ari kept talking about some park in New York City that was going to get taken out, and it got taken out after he talked about it.
Apparently, people didn't want it, but it didn't matter.
What was the parking in, Jamie?
Do you remember?
It was a big deal.
He was very upset about this park.
So Shane Gillis changed the name of our text group to protect our parks.
So that's kind of what the podcast is called.
But it's a wild podcast.
You know, four of us just get lit.
We just get lit and talk shit for hours.
joey diaz
I don't even see anybody that talks shit.
joe rogan
You gotta make it happen.
Make those encounters happen.
You gotta make time to hang out with people.
joey diaz
Let me tell you something.
I hate driving into New York City.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I wouldn't drive it either.
joe rogan
No, I wouldn't.
But that's one of the reasons why I set up out here.
Is that I knew there's a lot of people I can hang out with.
joey diaz
It's brutal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That hour's a lot.
I went when I went to visit you when we were in the city for the UFC and then I came out to visit you.
That was a long-ass drive.
And then we went to play pool down in, what was that town?
It's like a couple towns.
Yeah, a couple towns over from you.
joey diaz
And fuckin' Edison got some good places to eat too.
They took me to a place there, my neighbors.
I was just happy to be around Italians again.
You don't understand.
I feel a lot more comfortable around Italians.
A couple Irish, a couple brothers.
I'm good.
Maybe a Chinese family.
joe rogan
I just think you didn't want to be around Hollywood anymore.
I don't think it has to do with nationalities.
joey diaz
It was LA. I'm just joking around.
joe rogan
I know, but you were always a guy, like before all of us, that was sick of that system, the Hollywood system.
You were always making fun of the agents that would come around that would promise you the moon and all these executives and all these people that would come around and watch shows and hee-hee and ha-ha.
You hated all that shit.
You always hated all that shit.
joey diaz
You know what, man?
It was good for a period of time and then we all figured out what we were going to become.
You know, once you realize the direction you want to take this, and you were the leader of that, like people going, I don't want to act anymore.
I don't want to play the piano no more.
This is what I want to do.
I want to stay, I want to do a stand-up.
I loved what happened.
Listen, man, I was locked up, and next thing you know, I'm at the fucking Comedy Store.
You know what that feels like?
joe rogan
I know.
joey diaz
Being there with fucking Bill Burr and Brian and all these people.
So after a while, it just got fucking old.
It just got really old.
To be honest with you, the main thing that I want to get out, I had too much of a comfort level.
joe rogan
Too comfortable just showing up there and doing sets?
joey diaz
Just too comfortable.
It was too comfortable my whole life.
My whole life revolved around a four block area.
You know, my house, the office, jujitsu, cryotherapy, the weed store.
joe rogan
Don't you think that just any kind of change like that is always good?
joey diaz
Yes.
Yes.
It was 23 years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
23 years there, two and a half in Seattle.
13 in Colorado, you know, a year and a half locked up.
It was time.
It was time to come home.
It really was time.
I didn't do it for any...
I just wanted to go home.
I wanted my daughter To fuckin' see the things I saw as a kid, not North Jersey type shit, but I wanna...
Did you see that fuckin' special on that amusement park when we were kids from Verona, New Jersey?
What's the name of it?
Action Park?
unidentified
No.
joey diaz
They ended up calling it Class Action Park.
joe rogan
That's terrible.
What happened?
joey diaz
Was it accidents?
Yeah, every time you were in there, they'd take you on a neck brace.
Fuck it when you were a kid, Doug!
Please, Jamie, if you find anything, a trailer.
joe rogan
Dude, I was at a fucking one of those fairs that would pull up in a parking lot.
joey diaz
Look at this shit.
When we were kids, you know.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, you're flying down these things.
How many kids got broken legs from this?
joey diaz
Oh my God!
unidentified
Every time you went there, if you went with eight kids, somebody was going down.
joe rogan
The most dangerous amusement park.
joey diaz
And in Vernon, New Jersey, or Vernon, New York.
joe rogan
Oh my God!
People are jumping off cliffs.
Whoa!
You could drive race cars?
joey diaz
Everything.
joe rogan
What is this, bungee jumping?
joey diaz
This was the 70s with the class action pool.
That was like Palisade Amusement Park.
It's a pool that's like a big cop's probe.
Look at this shit.
joe rogan
Park accident.
So people just got in accidents all the time.
joey diaz
Oh, every other weekend.
joe rogan
Look at it.
But is that okay?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Here's the question.
joey diaz
When I was a kid, I didn't go out to play.
I went out to die.
Big difference, okay?
unidentified
These little fucking half of fruitcakes today, they go out to play.
joey diaz
I went out to die.
Remember you hugged your mother and shit?
Like, you hugged the good.
Ma, I don't know.
We're gonna go rob a train.
I don't know what's gonna happen.
But look at this shit.
joe rogan
This shit is so ridiculous.
joey diaz
And New York had a ton of these when we were kids.
From Tuxedo New York all the way down.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
That's hilarious.
Action Park.
joey diaz
Why was this allowed to happen?
joe rogan
So here's the question.
If you could go, like, if guys are doing, like, BMX flips, you know, guys are practicing for those things, how many of those guys get hurt?
A lot, right?
How often do they get hurt?
Well, why is it okay if they get hurt, but it's not okay if you go to a park where you're reasonably certain you have a good chance of getting hurt?
It's basically people paying to have the same kind of risk factor as you would do if you were doing something else crazy.
That's totally okay.
You know what I'm saying?
You can get a BMX bike.
There can be a ramp.
People know you're going to jump it.
Everybody knows.
That's fine.
But...
What is that, more of a commitment?
Because you went and you got a helmet, you got a bike, and you got the whole thing, instead of just going to this place?
This should be a place where it's fucking risky, right?
If you had a locked down, solid contract, where no matter what happened to you, you couldn't sue them, they could make a place like that again.
But I don't think they would ever be able to hold one of those contracts in court.
jamie vernon
You gotta watch the documentary.
It's tough.
I remember watching.
joey diaz
Oh, it's tremendous.
joe rogan
But is it negligence?
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
If I remember correctly, there's a lot of people telling them you can't do this for kids, and people are like, give a fuck, it's the 80s, we're doing coke, we're making money, have fun, party.
joe rogan
But the jumping off cliffs, like that thing, like the fact that they had a cliff dive, like that's just crazy.
They built a cliff dive, and people could just jump...
Like if you hit...
If you're jumping off of...
jamie vernon
This is the big thing that they had there, remember?
The bridge where everybody would get drunk and jump off of, and people were getting hurt.
They're landing on each other all the time.
joe rogan
Oh, of course.
Look at that.
I can imagine that they would.
I imagine people landing on each other on purpose.
jamie vernon
I think that's part of it, because they would cheer.
It'd be like, you're the man for the five minutes of the summer day.
joe rogan
That's a great way to break your neck.
Someone flying and landing on you, that is a great way to break your neck.
jamie vernon
It's really good.
I think there's even a fictionalized version that Johnny Knoxville made.
That's why he popped up in that thing.
And I don't remember what that was called.
joey diaz
You know, these places, and it was the 70s, late 70s, early 80s, or 70s.
I don't think the insurance regulations were as strict as they are today.
Like, they didn't have a fucking idea.
Open up a park.
Yeah, whatever.
Just give me $900 a month.
Send us a check on the first.
joe rogan
They probably didn't have the kind of lawsuits.
unidentified
They don't know.
joey diaz
What kind of places?
It's like Seaside.
You know, it's nice.
Couple little swings and shit.
joe rogan
Here's a question.
When did the first lawsuits emerge?
Like, the first law...
Like, a civil lawsuit.
Like, someone suing you because they did a thing and they got hurt.
And, like, you were...
Like, you get trampled at the circus or something like that.
Like, when did they start suing for things?
Probably pretty recently.
I want to say within the last 150 years, like a civil lawsuit.
When did that start?
jamie vernon
I have to think that has to go back because America didn't make up law.
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
I think it's gone on a lot longer than that.
joe rogan
America, did they wear the powdered wigs in the beginning like the English guys do?
That's wild, right?
The powdered wigs?
They have to wear wigs.
When they judge things, right?
I mean, I don't know how their system works, but I've seen many an image of, like, court in England from back in the day film of dudes with wigs on, like, in our lifetime, right?
I'm not imagining this, right?
joey diaz
What, 20 years ago?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wasn't that long ago?
joey diaz
I thought it was like Abe Lincoln and those guys.
joe rogan
No.
Not in England.
Right?
Didn't they sometimes wear those crazy wigs?
jamie vernon
They still do.
joe rogan
They still do.
unidentified
In England.
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if they ever did it yet.
joe rogan
Please, I need video footage of these judges wearing the wig in England.
That's a crazy thing.
Out of all the wacky traditions, wearing a wacky wig.
joey diaz
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that.
They all wear these wacky wigs that are from the 1400s.
This is bananas.
What are those things called?
Because that one looks more like a cloth than a wig.
It's like it seems to have evolved.
Right?
jamie vernon
It probably has a proper name but this just says like wig and it's just a wig.
joe rogan
Well it looks like it back then too and that one it looks like the same thing but it looks more like a cloth like sometimes like that one if you go back what is that thing is that real that dude real see that looks like a rug like he's got a rug on his head like it looks it's woven like a carpet but what a strange tradition that the judges all have to dress like they're from a bygone era You know where all that wig shit happened?
Where all the wig shit in Europe came from?
Syphilis.
These dudes were all losing their hair, because they all had the clap.
It was terrible, like syphilis is running rampant.
That's where the term bigwig came from, because these really rich guys.
I think they were brothers or cousins.
We've talked about this.
It was in France.
joey diaz
I tell you, it looks like he's got the clap.
He looks worried.
That dude, the prime minister that fucked Jezuel, whatever her name is.
joe rogan
Justin Trudeau?
joey diaz
That dude, no.
That's the dude in Canada, ain't it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I'm talking about the one in England, the uncle.
He's all chubby and shit.
He was pissing on that young girl.
He pulled a R. Kelly or something.
I don't know.
He don't look good lately.
That fucking dude don't look good at all.
joe rogan
To be a royal and to be in a quagmire like that is probably very stressful.
unidentified
That whole trial was crazy.
joe rogan
That whole Ghislaine Maxwell trial and The fact that, you know, you see photos of her like hanging out.
She was at Clinton's wedding.
That's not good.
Clinton's daughter's wedding.
It's just like deep ties.
Deep intertwined ties.
jamie vernon
He's settled.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
I heard about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Whatever that means.
joe rogan
Gave her a lot of money.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Gave her a lot of money.
joey diaz
We'll live in the shady times, my friend.
joe rogan
It's odd.
It's such an odd time to be alive because there's like so much of it is transparent, you know?
So much of it is transparent and so much of it is just...
We're off in a bad way.
You know how you meet someone and when you meet them, maybe you're in a bad mood or maybe they're in a bad mood or maybe something shitty happens and so you get off to a bad start right away with them.
It's hard to forget that and go back to just being cool with each other.
It's hard.
It takes two people to want to do that.
It takes, like, you know, you have to see the guy and reach out to him.
Like, have you ever had a friend like that that, like, you had to reach out to them and have a conversation with them?
joey diaz
The guy kidnapped.
You know how hard that was?
joe rogan
That's a different thing.
joey diaz
No, think about it.
Just apologizing.
joe rogan
Yes, it's a motherfucker.
What I'm getting at is that this country is off in a bad way.
And I think a lot of it came about during the Trump administration because the country was so polarized.
There was such a big difference between the people that were happy that Trump was in office And the people thought that Trump being president is the end of civilization.
And it's the worst thing that can happen.
And he's going to cause nuclear war.
He's an egomaniac.
And he's crazy.
And it's just like he's just a horrible person.
We've got to get him out of office.
And there was a lot of people that just had to get him out of office.
Biden wins and then they wanted to make lists of all the people that supported Trump.
So you could, you know, all the people that were that voted for Trump, you never wanted to don't work with them, ostracize them from society.
People are literally talking about making blacklists, you know, to like to ban people.
Then I think it's gonna take a while before we realize like none of this is good for us Like none of this is good for us None of this is good for anybody and this idea that like one guy's your guy and the other guy's not your guy and when he's in all the people that are up that are with him are your fucking enemy and when he's him everyone in in everyone who opposes him is you that you got to fight them off like this is crazy talk and We're all just people in this together.
And this polarization that we're attached to right now with everything, with everything we do, with politics and with the environment and the way you eat and what you do and how you decide if someone's a boy or a girl and whether or not people should be able to compete in sports that match their gender and what are we going to do if the ocean levels rise?
Everybody's got to stop!
Settle down!
Everybody's losing their fucking mind.
We have way more in common than we do apart from each other.
We are way more often to get along than we are to dispute.
And yet people are only concentrating on dispute.
They're only concentrating on problems.
There's so much good in the world right now.
There's so much good.
Are there bad things?
Yes!
Of course there are.
But if we just keep concentrating on only bad, we have a terrible view of everything.
joey diaz
What's going on at airports?
On planes?
Or fighting on planes?
joe rogan
People are tense, man.
joey diaz
Fucking fighting.
Well, listen, we just went through two years, and not only two years that were rough on this country and the world, but for some, like a couple weeks ago, it was Christmas, everybody was getting COVID. And my friend called me.
He goes, I went to whatever.
They don't have tests.
But I just found out.
I'll never forget this.
He goes, Fortune almost has them.
They want $40 a test.
And I go, you know, da-da-da.
And I got off the phone with him.
I remember I was making like an egg salad sandwich.
And I go, how much longer can the American public keep getting fucked?
We just keep getting fucked the last three years.
So there's going to be anger.
There's going to be anger.
And people are not going to look at the good right now.
They're going to look at the bad because they're angry.
You know, they're fucking angry.
joe rogan
They are.
joey diaz
I think that the two-year pandemic created a mental health cycle in this country.
I think that the people that you see now that are functioning and stuff, I think there's a little mental health issue with people.
It seems like people are out more now.
unidentified
Ah!
joey diaz
When you look on Instagram, it's not pictures.
It's humans coming at you.
I think that two year fucked us up as human beings.
It was just two.
You get a different story every day.
We don't know what's coming and what's going.
Your kids at home now, if they call, you have to keep your kid at home for five fucking days and change your plans because they had a contact.
It's just been rough.
So I hope that we start to heal a little bit.
But I think that the last two years beat us up, man.
Beat a lot of fucking people up.
They changed their lives.
They changed their jobs.
They picked up and moved.
Now they're talking about a war in Russia and Ukraine, Russia.
It's just been a weird three years.
It's been a constant smack in the face.
And that's what I feel.
Because why do all these fights on planes all of a sudden?
joe rogan
Well, I just think there's so many people that are tense, and when you force them to wear a mask on a plane, and some people don't want to comply, you get people angry already anyway.
Like, hey, I'm doing it.
You should fucking do it too.
And then people get mad.
Did you see the one where the lady is yelling at the man?
She doesn't have a mask on, and she's yelling at the man to put his mask on, and he calls her a piece of shit, and I think she smacks him.
joey diaz
She smacks him.
Now, you could obviously tell she had three cocktails in it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
She was a fucking- She was a crazy person.
And then she drank on that plane, altitude, fucked her up.
joe rogan
You ever been in a plane where a fight breaks out?
joey diaz
Years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, what happened?
joey diaz
It was not good.
It had nothing to do with me, thank God.
joe rogan
I was in two seats in front of these two guys, and one guy put his bag above the other guy's seat.
So when you get up from your chair and you go to the bin above your head, you're supposed to do it on your side to this guy.
And this guy did it on the other side.
He goes, hey, that's my bin.
And he goes, no, it's not.
It's first come, first serve.
And he goes, no, I'm sitting here.
That's my fucking bin.
And he grabs the guy's bag to pull it out.
And the guy's like, hey, fuck you.
Get your fucking hands off my back.
And then the nurse, or the nurse, the flight attendant, almost kicked him off the plane.
And it got to this real tense thing where she wouldn't give either one of them alcohol.
She's like, no, you're not drinking.
And, you know, she's like, I'll decide later if you drink.
Like, she decided that she was going to, like, keep these guys from...
And I'm like, I don't know if you're allowed to do that.
Like, is it up to the flight attendant's discretion?
Are they, like, a bartender?
Can they cut you off?
joey diaz
What's your option?
joe rogan
I don't know.
joey diaz
Get off the fucking plane.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, these guys, they did take off.
The pilot talked to them.
They did take off, and they never did anything.
But it was, like, this moment...
And this lady, she even said something to me like, are you going to help me?
And I go, if things go sideways, I'll get up.
I'm like, but I don't want to jump in.
Like, what am I going to do?
You want me to hit somebody?
Who do I hit?
Choke people?
I'm not getting sued.
If everything goes sideways, I'll get up.
But even then, I don't want to get...
What are you supposed to do?
If two guys start swinging at each other, who are you supposed to hit?
Who are you supposed to pull off?
What are you supposed to do?
Who's right?
I think the guy who got mad is probably...
He's got a point, because the guy's putting his thing in his bin over his head.
He's kind of got a point, but is it really a rule?
joey diaz
Let me ask you a question.
Where were you flying out at?
Do you remember?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
joey diaz
Okay, because I always found LAX to be the most troublesome fucking...
If you fly out of there, and I'll give you a couple of examples.
2012, when you were shooting your special in Columbus.
Remember I got out of there, the cops had me at the airport in Columbus, and I had weed in my balls, and...
The guy didn't want to press charges.
joe rogan
That was 2009. 2009. Yeah.
joey diaz
And that was when the guy, the seat went back.
And I asked a guy, like a gentleman, I go, your seat broke.
Can you just pull up a little bit?
And he goes, no.
And I was like, and this guy's like a skinny worm.
You know, like, he's not a tough guy.
But that's that Hollywood bullshit.
I'm cool.
He must have been a writer for his show.
In fact, the guy from The Office was on that same flight.
They would all go home on Fridays.
And I kicked the fucking thing.
Then he turned the stewardess on me.
He turned the whole plane on me.
Meanwhile, I got an ounce of weed in my nutsack.
And now the cops want to talk to me when I get off the fucking plane.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
joey diaz
Then I had two incidences in LAX. The one was like a year before the pandemic.
Some guy, I get up, you know, you get up.
I'm leaving fucking LAX at 5 in the morning.
I don't want no drama.
You know, they call my flight number, whatever.
I board the plane, I go to my seat, and the guy's like, no, you're not sitting there.
And I'm a little fucking stoned.
It's 5 in the morning.
I go, what do you mean?
1A, 1A. Yeah, he goes, no, no, no.
Go sit somewhere else.
I'm going to sit with my friend.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
joey diaz
I go, listen, do me a favor.
Get the fuck up.
And that's exactly how I said it.
Just get the fuck up.
I don't have time to hear this shit.
He just looked at me.
I go, get the fuck up.
Just get the fuck up.
And I popped my thing.
I put my sleep apnea machine in there.
And he just looked at me like weird.
Those are the type of guys that go.
You're being assaultive or abusive.
No, I'm not.
You told me to go sit somewhere else.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I'm your fucking house boy.
Like I'm some fucking cat.
Go sit somewhere else.
So I tell you to get the fuck up.
joe rogan
There really are people like that.
joey diaz
Yes!
Our planes, yes!
Get the fuck up.
The people that were starting to drive me, listen, go to any fucking airport in the country and you could tell the gate that's going to LAX. You can tell.
You just walk.
Anybody.
A fucking idiot.
Pick out the gate that's going to LA. Look for service animals.
And not just a cat, like a fucking two dogs, a chick holding her baby with a yoga mat.
You know, that's how you can tell.
They're flying with a yoga mat.
What do you need a yoga mat on a fucking plane for?
Really?
That's how you can tell.
They don't just have service animals.
They got three of them.
I was on a plane one time and they had three fucking service animals.
And she's telling the assistant, feed him, take the peanuts so he can feed him to the dog.
LAX is the weirdest fucking airport.
People flying into there or flying out of there.
You're always going to have some type of fucking...
joe rogan
It's just a strange place where people go to get attention.
You go to be seen.
You go to be a part of the machine that makes the entertainment.
You know?
joey diaz
Well, one time I was going to Newark.
And I'm sitting in the aisle seat and there's two people next to me.
I don't talk to nobody.
The flight...
Great.
On time, we land.
The flight hits.
And I had the flip phone back then.
You know, I don't know what year it is, 2006. I got a flip phone.
I opened it up and I turned it on because somebody was going to pick me up.
And I'll never forget that I had, shut the phone off.
And I go, and I look, and there's two guys next to me, and the guy sitting by the window goes, put the phone away.
And I go, what?
He goes, put the phone away.
Right now.
And I go, I'm not putting shit away.
What the fuck are you talking about?
They were Germans.
They had a German accent.
He said, put the phone away like a Nazi.
And I'm like, I really oppose that shit.
I ain't putting fucking shit away.
So I'm just sitting and the guy keeps talking.
So now I go, you know what?
Let me call this motherfucker.
The plane's still on the runway and it's rolling.
And I'm talking to my buddy.
Yeah, I'll be out there in 10 minutes.
And the guy's like, hang up the phone.
And he goes, what's going on?
I go, this fucking jerk off next to me.
I'll call you back.
And I go, say another word.
I go, you got the window seat.
I'll kick you right through the fucking window.
Look at the size of this fucking cow leg.
All I got to do is get up, hold this seat, pick up this fucking knee, and I will kick you outside the fucking window.
Then the stewardess came.
We had a conversation.
Sure enough, the cops want to see us.
So they let everybody else off, and now it's me and the two Germans.
I'm sitting on one side.
They're sitting on the other.
She was a great stewardess.
The cops come out on the plane.
We walk out to the front.
Cop turns around.
We're at fucking Newark.
And he goes, what's going on here?
And I go, before anything, he's the fucking away team.
I go, they're the fucking away team.
They got no say in this.
I go, I took my phone out and he tells me to put it the fuck away like a boss, like a Nazi that he is.
I go, and again, think about it.
They're the fucking away team.
So what do you want to do here?
unidentified
Away team?
joey diaz
Yeah, they're the fucking away team.
What do you want to do here?
And the cop goes, he's got a point.
I'm going to walk with you to get your luggage.
Walk behind us.
He wouldn't let us.
He didn't arrest me.
He didn't arrest them.
But he walked us to luggage and make sure we were separated.
joe rogan
It's funny when people get intense arguments like that on a plane, but I think a lot of it has to do with the stress level of being on a plane.
You're nervous.
joey diaz
You're going to die.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's the same thing with driving.
That's why people get road rage.
You're in that car and you're going fast and like everything is, what the fuck?
Everything is heightened because of that.
Like those two guys yelling at each other over fucking space, the bin space above their seats.
Like they're probably freaking out.
They're about to get on a goddamn plane.
joey diaz
I was fucking high at a Gil once, getting out of Aspen Airport, and some guy cut me off, and I swear to God, I was throwing everything I could at him.
That's the last road rage I remember.
Because when I got home and realized what I had done, I felt like such an asshole.
The guy cut me off, but he cut me off on purpose.
And they gave me like the finger or something.
I'm 24 or something.
So I'm like, pull over, you cocksucker.
I'm throwing quarters at him.
And then I go in the glove compartment.
I'm throwing the warranty book at him.
But then there was a can of paint, touch-up paint.
And I fucking whipped out his thing and his window smashed.
I had to pull the fuck away and he tried to chase me and that was it.
I go, if I don't get arrested for that, I'll never do it again.
joe rogan
My friend's wife gave a guy the finger the other day.
She was walking in a parking lot, and a guy wasn't stopping, and he finally stopped, and he looked at her, and she gave him the finger.
And then she goes into the store.
The guy parks the car and comes in his store and yells at her.
He goes, come back out to the parking lot so I can finish the job.
Telling her to come out to the parking lot so we could run her over.
Like, that's how crazy people are.
That's how tense people are.
Because you're supposed, you know, California law, right?
That's where it was.
Someone's in a cross rock and they're walking.
They have the right of way.
You have to fucking hit the brakes, right?
They're not supposed to jaywalk, but if it's like a stop sign or if it's like a parking lot or something like that, they're supposed to have the right of way.
So as she's walking across the parking lot, technically she's in the right.
And this guy came inside and said, come out to the parking lot so I can run you over.
Dude, there are people out there.
There's people out there.
There's a lot of crazy, ramped up, angry fucking people out there.
joey diaz
A lot of pedestrians get hit this year.
unidentified
I'm sure.
joey diaz
I know they're getting hit in Jersey because they just saw an article.
In Jersey, you don't really give a fuck.
The streets are so dark, you're like, fuck it.
Nobody will see me.
I had a bad day today at work.
joe rogan
We need to loosen people the fuck up.
People need some goddamn exercise, Joey.
joey diaz
Good breather.
Society's been getting beat up the last couple years, man.
joe rogan
We had a chance.
The government had a chance to tell people to really promote it, to promote it all the time.
To say, listen, you want to all help out?
Here's one way that would help everybody.
If everybody exercised.
If we all, whatever you can do, you don't have to do anything crazy, but whatever you can do, if you can exercise.
If everybody exercised, we would drop so many of the problems that people have with stress, with anxiety, and then health, health benefits.
It would help you a lot.
They never promoted it.
They had a chance.
They had a chance during this two years.
Where everything was locked down.
Well, we found out that, like, your health had a big impact on how well you did if you got sick.
And it's not just COVID with everything.
It's a real opportunity.
People to say, like, hey, look, I know everybody's locked down for a while, but here's something you can do.
Like, mark it down.
Today I'm going to do 20 push-ups, 20 sit-ups.
Get a chin-up bar.
Do 20 pull-ups, too.
Do whatever you can.
Just run around.
Run around your backyard.
Do jumping jacks.
Do something.
Get a jump rope.
Jump rope's great cardio.
Fucking real easy to do.
Just sit there and jump a little rope.
Great for you.
But nobody did anything.
And while people got locked in their houses, they gained weight.
A lot of kids gained weight.
People got even more tense.
People got, like, socially distraught.
They felt disconnected from their family and friends.
They got scared to visit their mom.
Maybe their mom's older.
They don't know if they have it.
Especially people that have a hard time getting tested.
That's a sketchy...
Like, you don't know.
You wake up one morning, you feel kind of shitty.
You're like, maybe I have COVID. Or maybe I'm just tired.
I don't know.
Like, maybe I shouldn't see my mom.
Maybe I shouldn't.
Shit.
That's real life for people.
For fucking two years.
joey diaz
It's really weird when you look at your life and you think you're living a pretty good life and then you re-examine it.
That's the other thing that happened.
When I left L.A., I was doing a lot of shit that just was, you know, eight to ten espressos a day.
Let's just start there.
joe rogan
Jesus.
joey diaz
That's just start there.
unidentified
That's a lot.
joey diaz
You know, a cup of coffee for breakfast, two espressos.
Come home, work out, do whatever, two more espressos at five, and then I would drink four before the Comedy Store.
unidentified
Four?
joey diaz
For four of you people that thought, Joey's got a lot of energy.
He must be doing blow, dog.
It's four fucking expressos.
And here's the other secret.
Then I would run home.
Everybody thought I was leaving the store because I had to go do something.
No, I had to catch Starbucks.
It closes at midnight, you dumb motherfuckers.
So Tuesday nights I always left because of Joe's Pizza.
My gift to me, if I did good during the week working hours, I would go to Joe's on Tuesday at the Triple E show and the original and get a slice of pizza.
joe rogan
Where's Joe's?
joey diaz
On Hollywood Boulevard.
Great little pizza.
joe rogan
Where in Hollywood Boulevard?
joey diaz
Wilcox, around that area.
Selma.
No, not Selma.
Wilcox and Hollywood Boulevard there.
It's next to like a...
They have one in the Valley, too.
Not bad.
I discovered it towards the end.
Nobody would know it was good pizza towards the end.
So I would go there on Tuesdays, and then I would stop up there.
Because in Studio City, the fucking thing would stay open until midnight, the drive-thru.
And I would get a grande flat white.
joe rogan
At midnight.
joey diaz
At midnight.
10 to midnight.
joe rogan
That's like 200 milligrams of caffeine, right?
joey diaz
Drink it before I walk in the house.
And then have to smoke pot until I got tired.
joe rogan
Why do you just not have the coffee?
joey diaz
Because that's not a challenge.
Any idiot can just go home and go to bed.
joe rogan
When did you do your writing?
joey diaz
In the morning.
joe rogan
In the morning?
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
The night.
Listen, when you drink eight espressos, go to the con...
When I would come back from the comedy store, I'd make adjustments.
Try to do this joke from a different perspective.
Take the fuck out of there.
Put the pussy here.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the only thing I would do.
I would never rewrite anything because whatever you rewrite is shit in the morning.
Once I put two or three bong hits in me and ten edibles, whatever I'm writing is fucking Harry Potter.
The next morning I'm like, I didn't know I was a writer for Harry Potter.
None of this is funny and it's all fucking mystic shit.
joe rogan
I find that I have ideas at night, and maybe I don't have a full premise, but I got an idea.
There's something there.
You have those ideas, like, there's something on this one.
There's something on this subject.
I'm just going to write down the heading of it and just revise it.
In the morning or look at it the next day.
joey diaz
Well, give it a few days.
I usually give it a few days to air.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
And just see what, you know, it's like opening up a bottle of wine.
They say you gotta air it.
Same thing with a joke sometimes.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's just writing.
You know, sometimes it's just the act of sitting down and doing it.
And then in the process, a new idea sparks.
Like, you can't always just, you can't think that you have an idea already and that's the only way you can have an idea.
Like, every idea comes from somewhere.
And the best way to get them out of my head seems to be to make them come out.
Like, to sit down and just write.
And a lot of it's bullshit.
It's nonsense.
joey diaz
That's the morning journal in my world.
joe rogan
I do it more at night, I think.
joey diaz
That's the morning journal.
I got a new thing.
I get my coffee in the morning and I go outside.
joe rogan
Yeah?
joey diaz
I don't care how cold it is.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Why do you like it outside?
joey diaz
Because I could drink that cup of coffee outside.
That's cryotherapy.
That's what the Russians been doing for years.
joe rogan
Joey, if I got you an ice bath, would you use it?
joey diaz
Yeah, I'll go with it.
joe rogan
Would you?
joey diaz
Yeah.
There's a cryotherapy by me, but it's not the head.
The head stays out.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, the ice bath, that's the motherfucker.
Cryotherapy's easy in comparison.
Like, cryotherapy, I used to do, it was like 250 degrees below zero for three minutes, and I'd just be in there freezing my dick off, and it's real.
Like, it really does something for you, 100%.
And I think the full with the head in is amazing.
And the feeling that you get, like the rush that you get is wild.
But there's something about the cold plunge that seems even harder, because you have to breathe through it.
You know, you're in there, you're breathing, you're like...
You're all tense and shit, and you're trying to calm down, and your whole body's like, get me the fuck out of here.
This is 33 degrees, stupid.
The fuck are you doing?
There's ice floating in this thing.
And you're just sitting there breathing.
But when you get out of it, it's like when the blood rushes back to your muscles, oh my god, you feel amazing.
But your head feels amazing, too.
It's like it does something for your brain.
It helps alleviate tension.
It makes you feel good.
joey diaz
Something about the cold air.
Something about cold.
There's something about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
First time I discovered cold outside or anything like that was the master swimming program in Boulder because it's year-round and it's outside.
joe rogan
They swim outside in the middle of the winter?
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
You didn't know that?
The pool is heated.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
joey diaz
But the fucking...
joe rogan
The walk to the pool is not.
joey diaz
The walk to the pool is not.
They would shovel the snow for you.
You'd have your slippers on.
They're nice.
And she would say, watch, you know, there's salt down.
That's all fucking winter along with it.
But that little walk for me would do something.
I don't know what it would do.
I can't lie to you.
joe rogan
I have a question that I've always wanted.
I keep forgetting about this.
How bad is chlorine in the pool for your skin?
Like, when you get a guy like a Michael Phelps or something like that, who's a professional swimmer, and they're swimming every day, like, what is it?
joey diaz
Rise your skin destroys your fucking head, dude.
Because I did it last summer.
joe rogan
Yeah?
joey diaz
I joined the pool in my hometown.
I was there every fucking day.
joe rogan
Great exercise.
joey diaz
Let me tell you something.
I loved the pool.
I would spend...
I would go there.
I would go to the gym, do all my shit around the house, podcast, and I would go there from...
Two to six.
And sit on the other side of the sun.
They'd play fucking Sinatra, Mon Jovi, all New Jersey shit.
Tons of Frankie Valli at this motherfucker.
Tremendous.
And my daughter would swim all day at her camp.
So she didn't want to meet me there.
Sometimes I'd have my wife meet me there at six.
But that pool brought me back.
I would sit there with my fucking socks off, just rolling my feet in the grass, the fungi toenail in the grass.
And there was a kid in there, I swear to God, the thing that impressed me the most was it was a big, they had three or four pools, they got a basketball court, they make heroes there.
Oh, you could deliver pizza there.
You could get anyone, Danino's, Carlo, all those fucking pizza places to deliver there.
But this is what I liked about it.
If you went like before two, Joe, it was guys barely keeping it together.
Sixty and up.
And you gotta see these motherfuckers swim.
They're like, what do you call those people?
You told me once they're like, you know, like Nate Diaz, he's a whatever.
joe rogan
Triathlon?
joey diaz
No, they're only good at one thing.
joe rogan
Oh, a specialist?
joey diaz
No, an idiot savant.
These fucking guys were old, and they fucking go in there where they got the paddles on their hands.
I became friends with one of the guys, Larry, he's 71, retired stockbroker.
So I started talking to him, and he started telling me, because I would tell him, the pool's cold.
He's like, you're fucking Cuban.
You know, get the fuck in there.
So I started swimming with him and shit, but there was a guy in the pool that's autistic, and I would talk to him every day because I thought it was cool, like, just to talk to him.
He's a lonely guy.
And one day he's like, have you ever gone to an orgy?
And he goes, I got my dick sucked.
And he started telling me about all this shit, how he did blow, how he smoked weed, how he goes to Atlantic City and gambles and shit.
And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
He goes, I was a lifeguard here when I was a kid.
I had a threesome in the back with two lifeguards.
unidentified
How old is he?
joey diaz
He's got to be 34. Great kid, heavy kid.
This motherfucker would start swimming at 9 in the morning.
He wouldn't get out till 6. And then he would wait for the sandwiches to drop prices.
Like at 5, they start going, we're going to close at 6. Sandwiches are 50% off.
And they buy one, get one free.
And then he would buy the one for 50% off.
Then they would go, it's a quarter to 6. Buy one, get one free.
And he'd go, goddammit!
And I'd go, go get your fucking sandwich, because they just ripped you off.
Because he would get all fired up because of the 50% off instead of buy one, get one free.
But towards the end of the summer, he's like, do you know how to get marijuana?
So I started bringing him my fucking reefer, 35%, 37%.
I would roll a joint and give it to him and go, don't smoke this on the property.
Smoke this when you get out.
The next day, he would come right to me.
Man, that stuff was fantastic.
I smoked it with a cigar and a bottle of wine.
He was a cigar dude, $30 cigars.
Then I started giving him edibles, and I didn't see him no more.
Towards the end of the summer, I didn't see him no more.
joe rogan
I want to be real clear.
It's your words, not mine.
When you said I called Nick Diaz an idiot savant, I definitely did not say that.
It could be misconstrued.
joey diaz
Yeah, no, no, I don't mean it like that.
joe rogan
Those are your words.
joey diaz
I didn't mean it like that.
Nick knows I'm a big fan of his.
joe rogan
You meant like he's a focused person.
joey diaz
He's a focused, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, when you get great at anything, anybody that's at a high level In anything it has to be obsessed you have to be obsessed with that thing and if you Have the kind of mind that can just focus on one thing whatever it is surfing whatever it is like there's people that could just focus on one thing and they They're just not they're not a regular person in that like they have they have the ability there's people that have ability to just Continually
do something to get it better and better and better past all the stress past all the Anxiety past all the shit that's involved in it and then with fighting It's also the danger and then the injuries you're getting cut up like both the Diaz brothers have massive scar tissue because they just been in so many wars and I really gotta hand it to those savages, because they really are savages.
Yeah.
joey diaz
They've been at it for years, man.
Years.
And they'll still come back and fight, whether, you know, whatever.
joe rogan
I don't want them to.
I mean, it seemed like Nick's last...
Not Nate.
Nate's still active, and Nate's still awesome.
I mean, Nate almost knocked out Leon Edwards in the fifth round of a crazy fight.
I mean, he hurt him bad in that fifth round.
Nate's still at the top of the food chain, but Nick had one fight back against Robbie Lawler, and it just didn't necessarily look like he was doing it because he wanted to fight.
He was doing it because he probably needed some money.
That's the thing that you hate to see for any fighter.
You want to see the Nick Diaz when he was Strikeforce champion.
The Nick Diaz when, you know, I mean, he was fucking amazing, dude.
Like, a lot of people forgot the Strikeforce days, like when he armbarred Cyborg.
Like, we had that war with Paul Daley when he had, like, I mean, Nick Diaz when he beat up Frank Shamrock.
I mean, Nick Diaz was a motherfucker in those days.
joey diaz
Yes, he was.
joe rogan
And he had crazy cardio, man.
He would put a pace on guys and they just withered.
They couldn't take it.
He would just start beating guys up.
He would put that pace on.
He did it to BJ Penn and the UFC. I mean, he would put that pace on you.
And you're like, whoa.
He would just start wailing on guys.
They could not keep up.
You're always backing up and you can't breathe because he's always punching at you.
You never get a full breath.
You never get that moment where you're posing, looking at each other.
There's none of that.
It's just in your face, constantly.
You're trying to breathe and you're just getting popped over and over and over again.
You've got to be a special person to be able to do that.
You've got to be obsessed.
Like, full on locked in.
And when you're not, you shouldn't do it anymore.
You know?
That's the thing, like a lot of these guys, unfortunately, we were talking about BJ or any of these guys, like when they get past their prime and then they're still competing, you get a distorted sense of who they are.
But that's a lot of fighters, that's how they go out, man.
They don't want to accept it.
They don't want to accept that it's over.
joey diaz
You can't tell them that it's time to go.
joe rogan
How can you?
Because some guys are still good.
Like, look at fucking Anderson Silva.
They knocked out Tito Ortiz in that boxing match, beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., That guy's a world champion.
That guy's a legit world champion boxer.
He beat him, and the Tito knockout was incredible.
Anderson's in his 40s, deep in his 40s, and he's still...
I mean, he's not just fighting at a high level as a boxer, but I wonder, if Anderson had started his career as a boxer instead of a Muay Thai fighter, became a UFC champion, he might have been one of the greatest boxers ever.
Anderson's that good of a fighter that he's so good with his hands and he was so elite when he was in his prime.
You think that level of elite when he knocked out Vitor, he could be good at anything.
He could have been great at soccer.
He could have been great at any sport he chose.
He hit this level of excellence.
And the idea that he did it in UFC and MMA, but he couldn't have done it, I think he could have done it in boxing.
I think he could have been an elite world champion as a boxer.
I think he's that good.
I really wonder, because it's hard to tell, because he's in his 40s.
It's hard to tell, but he's so good now.
I mean, it makes me think, like, what would he have been like if he, you know, just from the beginning of his career, just did nothing but boxing?
joey diaz
I thought he was really natural with his hands.
Like, I thought he was really...
When I seen him beat...
Because I became a fan of his after Chris Levin.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Like, I just happened to be watching that fight that night, and...
I always thought he had good hands.
He had good accuracy, it seemed like.
joe rogan
Oh, amazing.
Yeah.
joey diaz
So, yeah, he could have probably been a great boxer, especially with what's going on now.
You don't really know who's boxing anymore.
joe rogan
He was one of the recipients of one of the first, not the first heel hooks in MMA, but the first flying heel hook.
There was a dude named Rio Chonan.
And Rio Chonan used to train with Mayhem.
joey diaz
Yes, I remember him.
joe rogan
And Rampage, I think, too.
See if you can find Rio Chonan taps out Anderson Silva.
joey diaz
That's the only loss he had Anderson, right?
For a long time.
joe rogan
Yes.
joey diaz
Rio Chonan.
joe rogan
Man, I think that's it.
Yeah.
So look at it.
Watch what Rio does.
It's so wild.
He does some shit that only takes place in movies for the most part.
He dives, like a pro wrestling move almost, like dives, a scissor hold.
And now at the time, you have to realize how incredible this is.
And he catches him in an inside heel hook, which is the nastiest heel hook.
And the way he does it, it's like, look how he sets it up.
It's beautiful.
It goes across like that, and that's like massive torque on the knee from that position.
It's horrific.
But see, you got guys now that are like really high-level leg lockers.
And you see them entering into the UFC. But it was kind of rare for a long time.
And this is pride.
I want to say that fight was...
I want to say that was 2003 or 4. What year was that?
jamie vernon
New Year's Eve of 2004. See?
joe rogan
And in those days, there wasn't a lot of leg lock submissions in MMA. It was kind of rare.
And then there was a few guys, and then Husamar Palhares came around.
And Palhares started ripping people's legs apart.
He was the first guy that I could remember ever in the UFC where people were absolutely terrified to fight him because they thought they were going to get crippled.
Husamar Paul Hares was so good at leg locks and he was my height, but four feet wider.
He was built like a tree.
They called him tree trunk.
That was his nickname was Toquino.
I guess that means tree trunk.
This motherfucker would grab your leg and so quick with heel hooks and then not let go when you tapped.
joey diaz
That was the problem.
joe rogan
He was also the first guy that I know of that won a fight and got released from the UFC. Yeah.
He was doing that with a lot of dudes.
He was tearing apart their knees.
He just would dive on these heels.
Look at the fucking muscle on that guy.
And he was at 185. And, I mean, maybe he was 5'8.
Maybe.
joey diaz
Those are the decade days, though.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
This is pre-USADA. Oh, my God.
joe rogan
He is so swole.
That picture of him right there at the top, Jimmy, the big one, look at the size of that guy.
And the fact that he was just a terrifying grappler.
Just terrifying.
joey diaz
Look at that right bicep.
That's Franco Columbo.
unidentified
Fucking huge!
joe rogan
See if you can find a video of Paul Harris tapping people.
Because there's probably like a highlights.
See if there's like a highlights.
Yeah, his 10 submissions.
He was so terrifying because everybody was scared of the legs.
Because he would get your legs, like look, and he was so goddamn strong.
Like look at this fight, he's tapping, he won't let go.
He's still hanging on.
There was a few guys like that.
And he also did that when he left the UFC. He did it to Jake Shields.
And I guess it's the PFL now.
I don't remember what they called it back then.
But he got Jake Shields, I think, in a Kimura and wouldn't let go.
joey diaz
That's Mike Price, right?
Mike Pierce.
joe rogan
Mike Pierce, yeah.
There's a few of those.
This is a nasty one.
He mangled a lot of dude's legs, man.
And that was the thing about him, is it wasn't just that he had wicked technique, because he definitely did, but it was also that...
joey diaz
Look at that.
That's a great...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, dude, he just would mangle guy's legs.
And you'd lock your shit up and you're like, tap, tap, tap.
See, he doesn't want to let go.
He was so strong.
It was amazing technique and ridiculously strong.
He was so fucking strong that he would get a hold of guys and they would just be in terror because they knew they're going to have to get knee surgery.
You're like, if you don't tap, and even if you do tap, he's going to hang on a couple of seconds.
unidentified
Yikes!
joey diaz
Fuck that, Doug.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I go to jiu-jitsu, they teach.
I know the heel hook.
That's it.
I won't get into anything else.
That's the only thing they teach at core.
It's like the core program, and then he's got the blue belt program, and that I don't even want to learn.
The one when you grab the arm and go back and put your leg over.
That's it.
That's good enough for Uncle Joey.
Everything else is bad.
I don't want to know.
I will never go for your legs.
I'd rather you get me an arm bar or something.
Don't fuck with my...
You won't touch my foot anyway.
Once you see that fucking guy's toenail.
Once you get a whiff of that motherfucker, you're in no danger.
joe rogan
How did we get to talking about Pajaras?
joey diaz
Who the fuck knows?
joe rogan
Heel hooks, the UFC. Anderson Silva.
Oh, Rio Chonan.
Rio Chonan with that flying scissors.
Flying scissor takedown to heel.
joey diaz
I used to always see him at Justin Fortune's gym.
unidentified
He used to go in there with Mayhem.
joey diaz
They were like buddies and they would just abuse each other.
joe rogan
Oh, they beat the fuck out of each other.
joey diaz
It was tremendous to watch.
That was great.
joe rogan
Yeah, all those guys did hard sparring sessions.
All those old school guys that were like the real pioneers.
Mayhem at one point in time was fucking elite.
I remember I called Mayhem after he beat Sakuraba and I go, bro, you just ran through Sakuraba.
Do you know how crazy that is?
I go, I know this is like Sakuraba of like, I forget what year it was.
I want to say it was like 2005. See if you find Mayhem vs.
Sakuraba.
Because I was like, dude, you submitted Sakuraba.
And he beat him up.
It was like super, super professional performance.
And I remember saying like, man, you're at the top of the fucking food chain right now.
Because he had crazy cardio for days.
He had crazy work ethic.
And in this fight, this was a big fight for him where he really put it together against an elite guy.
And this is probably, in my opinion, this is Mayhem's finest performance.
Because he was fighting a guy who in Sakuraba, the Gracie killer, was just...
You know, I mean, he armbarred Conan Silvera.
He broke Henzo's arm.
I mean, Sakuraba was a bad motherfucker.
And Jason picked him apart, standing, and then got him down and submitted him.
And it was a big fight for Jason.
Because it was in Japan, gigantic stadium...
And when he submitted him, like, hear this, like, picking him apart from the standing.
Big ground and pound.
I mean, this is, like, elite level stuff.
And see, Sakuraba goes for the leg here, but Mayhem was a high-level grappler.
Like, getting a hold of his leg was no fucking picnic.
Like, good luck, dude.
And now you gave up your back.
So he got his back here, and he starts beating him up.
I mean, like, when you know the level of grappling that Sakuraba had, and again, this probably was Sakuraba, like, a little past his prime, but if you know the level of grappling that Sakuraba had, to watch Mayhem, like, do this, and pose, and do the fucking, the hook'em horns in the middle of the fight...
And just beat the shit out of Sakuraba and then eventually submit him.
So he softens him up with punches until Sakuraba gets into a position where he can submit him.
I mean, he is pounding Sakuraba out.
And then he gets to the arm triangle.
Here's the arm triangle.
And Mayhem's arm triangle, I've been trapped in this before.
It's death.
Fucking death.
It's so good, dude.
And it's just perfectly placed.
To see Sakuraba tap like that, I remember calling him up and I said, dude, I go, that's some elite shit.
You hit some samurai mode.
Like, you hit your stride.
Because it wasn't just who he beat, it was how he did it.
It was a big deal.
joey diaz
You know, those older guys, past their prime, whatever, when they come from a wrestling or like a jiu-jitsu base, they're stronger than fuck.
joe rogan
That don't go away.
joey diaz
There's a guy at my gym, basic training, he's 58. He was a college wrestler.
The other day, he was just talking to one of the Russian guys that was also a wrestler, and he just was showing the guy something.
He goes, Joey, come here.
Let me show you something.
Bro, he just grabbed behind my neck.
I thought I was going to die.
The grip strength he had.
He's a tiny guy.
joe rogan
He's 58. Dude, I met this guy.
His last name is Laurie.
It's Lex Friedman's buddy, who is a world champion arm wrestler.
Sorry, I can't remember.
I don't want to fuck his name up.
He's a world champion arm wrestler, and I'm telling you this guy had, like, the biggest fucking hands I've ever felt in my life.
Let me find his name here.
jamie vernon
Devin Laura?
joe rogan
It is Devin.
How do you say it?
It's Devin Laureate, right?
jamie vernon
Laura.
joe rogan
L-A-R-R-A-T-T. Yes, I knew his brother too.
I knew his brother back in the day.
His brother used to run this body modification extreme website where dudes get like bolts put in their head and shit and slit their tongue down the middle.
You know, dudes who did that, his brother run that website.
And dude, I'm telling you, he has the biggest hands I've ever experienced in my life.
They don't even make any sense.
Maybe Shaq has bigger hands like longer, but this dude's hands were like catcher's mitts.
They were so big.
Like, you're shaking his hand.
You're like, I guess I'm shaking your hand.
I'm kind of shaking your hand.
I'm just putting my hand out there into the abyss of what your hand is.
Like, this just fucking mitt.
Just gigantic mitt.
joey diaz
He's a professional arm wrestler?
joe rogan
Yeah, a professional arm wrestler.
That's the dude.
Dude, he's so big.
He's so big it's preposterous.
And I'm like, hey man, you ever do jujitsu?
Because you would fucking murder at it.
I guess he did judo when he was younger.
But he's on Lex Friedman's podcast.
He's a very interesting guy.
He's not just like a big giant guy.
He's a very smart guy too.
Which is I'm always fascinated by.
Because there's like a lot of brutes out there.
Like Josh Barnett's another great example of that.
He's a brute.
You know, youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion.
Just gigantic man.
unidentified
But...
joe rogan
Very thoughtful, very introspective, very...
He examines ideas carefully and will give you a well-thought-out analysis of them.
You can ask him about stuff like, what do you think about this?
What do you think about the Canadian truck convoy that's in Ottawa?
And he'll give you a well-thought-out Sort of dissection of what's going on with it.
I love when there's like a guy like that.
joey diaz
I thought they were gonna do that here on Super Bowl Sunday.
joe rogan
Who do you mean?
joey diaz
The truckers were gonna get together on Super Bowl Sunday.
joe rogan
I heard they were gonna go to LA. Yeah.
I heard they were gonna go from LA and they're gonna drive all the way to Washington DC. If they had the GoFundMe, they had 10 million bucks.
Yeah.
10 million.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Did they refund people's money, or did they just take it?
joe rogan
They tried to take it.
GoFundMe tried to just give it out to various...
I think they said they were going to give it out to various charities, and then they changed their mind upon severe backlash, where people were furious.
Like, they didn't donate money to any charity.
They donated money to the Canadian truckers.
You're supposed to give it to them.
And so then they...
I don't know what they...
Maybe they're deciding that that's a criminal enterprise?
jamie vernon
It says they're refunding all money.
joe rogan
Now.
Yeah, now they are.
But initially, what were they going to do with it?
jamie vernon
I think I did read that they were going to pick off a charity or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that.
You can't just take people's money and give it to a fucking charity.
Not only that, who gets to decide what charity?
Like you?
There's a lot of charities where you find out how much money actually goes to the cause and it's very little.
joey diaz
It's disgusting.
joe rogan
They're gross.
There's a bunch of charities like that.
There's a bunch of, like, causes that a lot of people got behind.
And then you find out, like, oh, this is just, like, a way for people to make money.
joey diaz
I gotta be honest with you.
I'll help anybody, but it made me deter from giving.
I have to do background now, because I used to work for these dudes.
I didn't know, guys.
I fucking didn't know.
I needed a job.
I'm an open miker.
I'm in Seattle.
You need a fucking job.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
And you sell, you know, police advertising.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
But when I quit, I found out that the guys aren't even working for the cops.
They own this company that's called Police Friends or something.
And what they do is all they were required to donate is like seven cents per dollar.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Meanwhile, these two jerk-offs are driving BMWs that I was working for.
joe rogan
Really?
7 cents per dollar?
unidentified
That's it!
joey diaz
And if you start looking into other charities, See what they fucking need to give and your head will spin.
joe rogan
And then you find out the administration of costs and how much the people that are working are making.
joey diaz
They got a nice office and Sundays they go to fucking Playa Bowl and jump up and down.
joe rogan
That's weird, right?
Because they should be able to make something.
Like if you're running the Red Cross or you're running...
I don't mind you taking a cut off the top.
joey diaz
You should make something.
joe rogan
You should get paid.
joey diaz
It better not be more than you're giving those people who you're...
joe rogan
There's a website, I think, where you can look up the different charities and how much they give.
And each charity has a different percentage that they give to the crimes, or to the causes, rather.
And I think some of them are pretty good.
You know, some of them, they're probably funded by billionaires and shit, and so they have plenty of capital, and they don't necessarily...
The money that comes in, they could give a lot of it to whatever the cause is.
Because some people, they'll fund a philanthropic venture like that.
It's a good tax write-off, and it's also a good way for them to feel good about their money.
Jeff Bezos' ex-wife does that.
She's worth billions, and she donates a shitload of money.
She sets up stuff.
That's a nice thing.
That's a nice thing when you see people that are really wealthy like that and very charitable.
But you gotta be careful.
You gotta know where your money's going.
You gotta know what you're doing.
joey diaz
I don't mean to be a fucking, you know...
Some of these people have to donate for tax.
joe rogan
Yes.
No, you're being honest.
Yeah, they do.
They donate for taxes.
joey diaz
Everybody writes a check, but you go, oh yeah, but they're worth $200 million.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Elon, he has given a lot of taxes, or excuse me, a lot of...
He's given a lot of charity money away this year.
He gave something like $6 billion.
That thing that he was supposed to do about world hunger, they think that he actually did contribute that exact amount.
I haven't asked him about it, but there was an article about it, about what he had said he was going to do.
jamie vernon
A large number of shares worth like $6 billion or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, he donated that.
That guy's got shit piles of money.
It's preposterous.
joey diaz
I donate money from my Patreon every month.
joe rogan
Do you?
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good for you.
joey diaz
A little bit.
When I started the Patreon, it was to help other comics, you know, during the pandemic that weren't working.
joe rogan
That's why you did?
joey diaz
Yeah.
A little bit of that.
Just help people out.
And then I just take a little...
My daughter loves that St. Jude stuff.
joe rogan
Okay, that's a good charity, right?
joey diaz
That's a good charity because they took care of my niece when she had the cancer.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
joey diaz
So, yeah.
So, those are the things...
joe rogan
Even a charity that, like, say 10% of the money gets to the cause, that's still 10% of the money that wouldn't have gotten to the cause if those people didn't work at it.
So, it gets kind of weird, right?
Like, there's a lot of charities that I'm sure, if you looked at the number, like, how much of the money that comes in goes to administrative costs?
Well, administrative costs are real.
They really do cost something.
How else is it going to get paid?
What percentage is normal, though?
What's a reasonable percentage?
joey diaz
All right, if you have a non-profit, this is why I get pissed off.
If you have a non-profit, I got no beef for giving Joe Rogan a percentage of what I donate off the charity work.
And you know what?
The people who should be working for you should also be doing volunteer work.
So if they get paid for 10 hours, they should do 20 hours.
Stuff like that.
So it's all volunteer from A to Z. What do you mean?
joe rogan
The charity people should be doing it for free?
joey diaz
You know, you should be giving 10 hours a week to that.
joe rogan
If you're working at a charity, I think you should get paid.
I don't think you should have to do it for free.
I don't think that makes sense.
joey diaz
No, but like 20 hours and you work for 40. You get something out of it.
unidentified
I don't know.
joey diaz
You donate some of your time also.
You're retired.
You're retired.
You need to get the fuck out of the house.
You know, stuff like that I could understand.
joe rogan
I think it's reasonable to assume that they can do good and get paid.
I think it's just, they probably just need more people donating.
It's just, I don't know how much is normal.
Like, what's a normal amount where a charity takes?
Let's Google that, Jamie.
What is a reasonable amount that a charity takes to administrative costs versus to the actual charitable cause?
What do you guess?
What's normal?
joey diaz
1,200?
joe rogan
No, I mean, I don't like percentage.
What percentage goes to the cause?
joey diaz
I feel...
joe rogan
Like if you donate a hundred bucks.
joey diaz
Well, we have to be, you know, you have rent, you have administrative fees.
So I feel 50%.
Just to make me sleep at night.
joe rogan
50% makes sense.
joey diaz
If I give you 150, it's going to go to the kids?
I'm in.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
joey diaz
50s for your office and all that stuff, I'm in.
I could live with that.
joe rogan
What do you think it is, Jamie?
unidentified
I don't know.
jamie vernon
I mean, I've already seen the numbers, but I can't, just in that time where you guys were talking, I couldn't get a good answer.
I was seeing anything from 15% to 75% for a different, like 15% is average admin cost.
joe rogan
Why don't you just Google this phrase.
What percentage of charitable donations actually go to the cause?
jamie vernon
It's giving me the same answer.
joe rogan
So it just varies so much?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
Again, it depends.
joe rogan
What one gets 75% to the cause?
jamie vernon
It says the typical charity spends 75% of its budget on programs.
But museums are considered in a charity in some situations, so they might have to spend more for particular reasons.
They might have security guards they have to pay and other charities don't.
joe rogan
Right.
That's a good point.
joey diaz
It's like Hollywood accounting.
They're gonna make shit up.
joe rogan
Hollywood accounting is wild.
joey diaz
Hollywood accounting is wild, so they're gonna make shit up.
joe rogan
When you hear people argue in court about how much money a movie made, you're like, what?
Like, we lost money on this movie.
Like, that movie made $2 billion.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
They find a way.
They factor in advertising for other movies and shit into their budgets.
Like, I think they do some weird shit with numbers that infuriates people.
I'm glad I never had to experience that.
Arguing with a bunch of lawyers about how much money your movie actually made versus how much, you know, how much you're supposed to get off the back end.
jamie vernon
They were arguing that with the Matrix movie that came out.
Like, the people, I think they were promised it was going to be in theaters, and HBO's like, we didn't promise it was going to be in the theater, and, like, they're Well, didn't Scarlett Johansson have a problem with that?
It's a very similar topic, yeah.
joe rogan
That was with what movie was that?
jamie vernon
Black Widow.
joe rogan
Black Widow.
And they streamed it.
And she missed out on all that money.
Yeah, because of the contract.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
That's what Tom Cruise's back end is, too.
That's probably why they're waiting to put out Top Gun and all that stuff, because he gets money based off of ticket sales.
joe rogan
It seems like people are back going to the movies, though, right?
jamie vernon
I mean, Jackass and Spider-Man.
joey diaz
Spider-Man.
Destroyed.
joe rogan
Destroyed, right?
Isn't it one of the biggest movies of all time?
joey diaz
They didn't give a fuck about nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Destroyed.
joe rogan
So, if you look at that, so you know the market's there.
People are still going to the movies.
So what are they waiting for?
jamie vernon
Like even those are going to both be on Paramount in the next probably 60 days, 35 days.
They said in March.
I don't know the date for both of those.
Those are the top two movies that were out are going to already be on streaming and within 90 days of them coming out maybe.
Maybe a little bit more than that.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
You just wait it out.
joe rogan
Interesting.
joey diaz
They got dumped on, and the movie theater industry is really like AMC and all those chains.
joe rogan
Oh, they're fucked.
They're fucked.
A lot of them went under, right?
joey diaz
Yeah.
I didn't know this.
They don't make a dime off the movie.
They live off popcorn.
unidentified
Do they really?
joey diaz
That's what I heard.
I don't know how true it is.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's why the food's so expensive.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They don't make a piece?
jamie vernon
Renting it or leasing it.
Wow.
joe rogan
That's a good deal.
Good deal for the movie company.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a great deal.
But the thing is, if you have a nice TV at home and you could just get it off of Apple TV, wouldn't you rather?
At this point in your life, maybe if it's a comedy movie, like we're talking about if someone's doing stand-up, You wanna go to the movies and see it?
A large crowd?
joey diaz
I gotta be honest with you.
I'm with you on the live music and the live comedy.
I grew up in a movie theater.
I fuckin' actually miss it.
When I see a commercial for a movie, I cheer that it does well so I go to the movie theater and watch it.
And then you just hear the movie blows.
And you lost that opportunity to go to the fucking movie theater.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
joey diaz
I grew up in a movie theater.
We all know it's better to go to the fucking movies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
It's great.
I walk in the movie.
I tell my wife where I'm going to be.
I take this film.
I shut it off.
And I watch a little matinee movie.
There's eight people in the movie theater in the afternoon.
You're stoned to the gills.
Maybe you stop and get a little pork fried rice.
So when you go in there, you don't think of nothing.
You go in there, you get your little raisinets.
And you watch your fucking movie.
That's tremendous.
Now do it at home.
Your daughter's gonna come in and ask you a question.
Joey Dears is gonna call you and ask you a question.
You gotta go to the bathroom so it's more accessible.
You want a soda, but your wife made you a sandwich, I'm gonna go upstairs, and you just lost it.
There's been ten movies I've watched the last two years.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
joe rogan
But yet you watched The Outlaw Josie Wales 30 times in a row.
joey diaz
You know what the deal is with that motherfucking movie.
You know what I'm saying?
Listen.
joe rogan
These are my words of life.
joey diaz
These are my words of death.
joe rogan
Remember that scene?
joey diaz
I watch it once a month.
Just to keep me fucking focused.
joe rogan
Pull that scene up.
Pull that scene up.
The Comanche chief talking to outlaw Josie Wales.
That's a great scene.
That movie's a great movie.
It's a great movie.
joey diaz
There's a couple movies when I see it.
joe rogan
Give me some volume on this shit.
joey diaz
This motherfucker's bad too.
This is my dog.
That guy should be in the Hall of Fame.
Because he only did like three movies.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
This and White Comanche or something.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Yeah, that's the Indian from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Look at him.
joe rogan
This is a great fucking team.
joey diaz
Fucking great team.
joe rogan
It's a great team.
This was like one of the first...
...depictions of the Comanche in a movie that I can remember that was like a big movie.
unidentified
Scoot ahead till they talk, Jamie.
I am Tin Bears.
There it is.
You'll be Tin Bears?
I am tin bearers.
I'm Josie Wales.
Let's go.
I have heard.
You're the grey rider.
You would not make peace with the bluecoats.
You may go in peace.
I reckon not.
Got nowhere to go.
And you will die.
I came here to die with you.
I'll live with you.
Dying ain't so hard for men like you and me.
It's living.
It's hard.
And all you've ever cared about's been butchered or raped.
Governments don't live together.
People live together.
Governments, you don't always get a fair word or a fair fight while I've come here to give you either one or get either one from you.
I came here like this so you'll know my word of death is true.
And then my word of life is then true.
The bear lives here, the wolf, the antelope, the Comanche.
And so will we.
And we'll only hunt what we need to live on, same as the Comanche does.
And every spring, when the grass turns green and the Comanche moves north, you can rest here in peace, butcher some of our cattle and jerk beef for the journey.
The sign of the Comanche that will be on our lodge.
That's my word of life.
And your word of death?
It's here in my pistols, there in your rifles.
I'm here for either one.
These things you say we will have, we already have.
That's true.
I ain't promising you nothing extra.
I'm just giving you life and you're giving me life.
And I'm saying that men can live together without butchering one another.
It's said that governments are chiefed by the double tongues.
There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life.
No signed paper can hold the iron.
It must come from men.
The words of tin bearers carry the same iron of life and death.
It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life or death It shall be life.
That's a great fucking scene.
joe rogan
That's a great scene.
joey diaz
Fucking tremendous.
joe rogan
Great fucking scene.
joey diaz
Now you know why I watch the fucking thing.
This makes you want to stab a motherfucker.
Just his honesty.
joe rogan
And what year was this?
joey diaz
76. He had already done the four or five in Italy.
Came back.
And they finally made him a fucking star.
And this is just a masterpiece.
I think it's a fucking masterpiece.
joe rogan
Masterpiece.
Such a great movie.
And it was a sophisticated Western.
It was like a Western that had a great plot.
It had great acting.
Like, he went from the earlier spaghetti Westerns and, like, evolved the art form and then came back and did the Unforgiven, which is the...
unidentified
Coupe de gras.
joey diaz
That's a coupe de gras.
joe rogan
That's it.
joey diaz
But, dog, those Italian movies he was making?
joe rogan
Oh, they were great.
joey diaz
He wouldn't watch them.
Like, I watched the show about a year ago.
They would send them to him.
And they would send them in Italian.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
joey diaz
So he didn't know what to fucking do.
So he had to get them reprocessed at a movie theater here.
joe rogan
So they dubbed them in Italian?
joey diaz
Yeah, they were all Italian.
joe rogan
Wow.
Wasn't it funny that they did all the Western movies in Italy?
And they called them Spaghetti Westerns.
joey diaz
Spaghetti Westerns.
What was the name of that director?
I don't know.
Yeah, that motherfucker.
joe rogan
How wild is that?
That one dude obsessed with North American West culture in the 1800s.
That was his obsession in those movies.
They just found a thing, like a genre, that was like really perfect.
And with Clint Eastwood behind it?
I mean, come on, man.
We couldn't get enough.
How many movies did he make where he was a cowboy in the West?
joey diaz
For them, maybe five for the Italians.
joe rogan
How many movies do you think he's made where he's a cowboy?
unidentified
It must be 20 movies!
joe rogan
How many movies has he made where he's a cowboy?
joey diaz
Sarah and the fucking horse.
unidentified
There's a lot of fucking cowboys.
joey diaz
And Sergio also did How the West was won.
With Bronson, with the horse.
All that shit was him.
Bronson went over there.
Thune became a star.
And then he came back.
That's why when you look at Clint Eastwood's...
This is a fucking tremendous thing for you.
Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson's early...
Payments, what they got for movies, when they came back to the States, they came back with a fury, a la Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee would have lived.
His paycheck would have been enormous.
They came back stars.
You didn't have to develop them.
You know, I might sit here now and go, oh, I saw Wesley Snipes on Major League.
That's great.
You didn't see this motherfucker.
He was in Italy.
He did a bunch of, like, him and all those guys did, like, all those TV shows in the 60s, and then they went over there.
Fucking became, then came back.
So, Bronson?
Oh, did you see that thing they had a couple months ago about Steve McQueen's fucking contract?
joe rogan
No.
joey diaz
Bro, when he came into your fucking movie, you were getting fucking raped.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Everything.
Your wife's shoes.
Fucking...
I want toothbrushes.
I want sunglasses.
Find it online.
If you could ever see Steve McQueen's writer, you will die.
He was getting...
Well, he was getting $750 a movie, which is $3 million now.
joe rogan
At least, right?
joey diaz
And then Fucko was the one that went for the million dollar.
joe rogan
Who's fucko?
joey diaz
Marlon Brando.
He's like, you want me to do Superman?
And he's six mil.
joe rogan
Really?
Is that what he got for Superman?
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
That was the biggest check at that time for a flick.
unidentified
Wow.
joey diaz
Because if they counted the lines, it was like two scenes.
And that's the movie that he wouldn't even fly back for.
He told them he'll read the script for $100,000.
So he started fucking them from the beginning.
Like, oh, you want me to read the script?
I need $100,000.
They're like, what?
That's unheard of.
I think they also gave money for Apocalypse Now.
That's why they got so pissed when he showed up fucking fat as a horse.
joe rogan
Yeah, they kept him in the dark.
joey diaz
Yeah, they kept him in the dark and only showed his fucking head because he said, I'll do it my way.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm Cousins with Sinatra.
I'm doing it how I want to fucking do it.
Tremendous, all that, all those stories.
When they went back, they went back with a vengeance.
Bronson was just an asshole because he was pissed.
They were pissed.
That's why when I did that thing once and they were talking about when they did the one with the Seven.
What's that movie called?
joe rogan
Magnificent Seven?
joey diaz
Yeah, the original Magnificent Seven.
All those American actors were furious.
joe rogan
Why?
joey diaz
Yul Brynner.
joe rogan
Why were they pissed?
joey diaz
Because who the fuck is your Brenna?
This motherfucker was in some movie dancing with a hat on, and now you want to put him in a movie with us, and we're fucking gangsters!
This is McQueen, Bronson, James Coburn, these were like gangsters!
So they're like, George C. Scott.
So they're like, fuck it.
We're going to torture you, Brent, every night.
So they would go to the Formosa.
They'd get fucked up.
And they'd call his room.
We're going to suck your dick.
They had to fucking, the producers had to go talk to him.
We had to give the guy a break.
They were like, there's no way this guy's coming in and taking our work.
joe rogan
Why did they have a problem with Yul Brynner?
joey diaz
Because he was from another country.
joe rogan
Where is he from?
joey diaz
I don't know.
Fucking Bulgaria.
unidentified
Who the fuck knows?
joey diaz
He's like half a vampire.
I don't know where the fuck he's from.
I just know that when he did the Magnetists, they were not happy.
They were not happy.
joe rogan
Interesting.
joey diaz
They were not happy that...
unidentified
Oh, the King and I! Oh, the King and I. They were like, how the fuck?
joey diaz
Magnificent Seven, he's over there dancing.
joe rogan
He was great in Westworld.
joey diaz
Bro, he was great in everything.
That dude, there was some fucking...
Look, everybody's talking about the movies.
We got no fucking savages.
There's no more...
What's that old dude?
When we were coming up, he played Neil de la Croce in the Gotti movie.
He was the first...
He was a Mexican dude.
Quinn.
Anthony Quinn.
Those dudes were tough guys.
I just saw 110th Street.
He was fucking great across 110th Street when he's a cop in Harlem and shit.
Tremendous.
Those guys were savages.
We don't have savages no more.
We got like little Broomhildas.
That's why you were so impressed when you saw that savage Mick Jagger.
Because he just brings it.
I studied that motherfucker because he's the perfect communicator.
Oh my God, he's a conduit.
He don't crack jokes, but he does crack jokes in between his sets.
joe rogan
He does tell a few jokes.
He's got local references and shit.
joey diaz
Bro, when you watch Olé Olé Olé, that's what I was getting to.
This motherfucker did a South American tour, and the first thing he does when he lands is meet with a vocal coach so he can get the dialect from that city.
joe rogan
Wow.
joey diaz
And you watch him going in the...
You still see him when he landed in Cuba.
In Cuba.
He came out there talking Cuban Spanish.
joe rogan
It was fucking beautiful.
Really?
What did he say?
joey diaz
You know, what's going on?
You know, whatever.
I don't know what he said.
He gave a couple cornyos.
The audience went fucking bananas.
Yeah, he's...
Bro, Mick Jagger's great.
That dude is great.
And just the fact that he's...
He just...
He went to Jamaica to be with his 30-year-old wife.
joe rogan
I know, not wild.
joey diaz
Did you read that?
joe rogan
He's got a baby with her.
joey diaz
Yeah, he went to Florida from the tour.
The tour ended.
He went to Miami for two weeks.
joe rogan
Bro, he's Biden's age and he's got a baby.
joey diaz
No, he's a savage.
What about he went to a club and he drank at the club for an hour and nobody knew it was him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What's this, Jamie?
This is in Cuba?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Give me some more.
unidentified
Is that good?
It's better than that, you know.
Hold on, hold on.
It's not passion.
It's our love.
Yeah.
In the decent truck.
joe rogan
Look at that motherfucker.
What year was this, Jamie?
Does it say?
jamie vernon
I think it was Reese.
joey diaz
Right before the pandemic.
joe rogan
2018?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joey diaz
They released this on Netflix.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
joey diaz
And this is how smart Mick Jagger is.
He released this.
So, they released this, and then a week later they were gonna go on tour.
That was the fucking thing of the tour.
This was the flying to the tour.
What happened?
jamie vernon
1.2 million people, they played in Cuba?
joey diaz
Yeah!
joe rogan
What?
joey diaz
Yeah!
joe rogan
2016?
Oh my god!
joey diaz
Yeah, dawg!
joe rogan
Look at the size of that crowd!
joey diaz
People were flying down!
joe rogan
This is 2016?
Wow, that's amazing, man.
Joey, what would happen if Cuba was free?
joey diaz
I think I'd have to call you so you go down there and buy a big piece of it.
Start a comedy club down there before they fucking, you know, before Starbucks.
We gotta get down there before Starbucks.
They're gonna want to tear everything down, which takes the glamour away.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
You know, I could see you putting a Hilton and a Four Seasons and, you know, the chains, but you gotta leave that.
Like, when you go to Puerto Rico, you go to Bielsa on Wonk.
Same thing, you got the old San Juan, the castles and all that shit.
You know, people want to see that.
These savages are gonna go down there with bulldozers and just bulldoze everything.
That's part of the glamour of Cuba, the charm.
That's what I'm scared of.
joe rogan
People that I know that have gone there, they've eaten in people's houses.
joey diaz
Houses, yeah.
joe rogan
Like people, like you pay them, you can come in their home and they'll cook for you.
joey diaz
It's a new thing, yeah.
joe rogan
And apparently it was amazing.
joey diaz
Tremendous, tremendous.
joe rogan
They're like, we went to this guy's house and his wife cooked for us.
It was incredible.
They gave us great hospitality.
You treat it like it's a restaurant, but it's like a person's house.
But he said it was amazing Cuban food.
joey diaz
You find any Cuban not in Austin?
joe rogan
Not yet.
joey diaz
Really?
joe rogan
No, I'm sure there is, though.
joey diaz
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It must be.
Remember the Versailles place we used to go to?
In Encino?
That place was fucking amazing.
joey diaz
Versailles!
joe rogan
The chicken with onions and garlic with that lemon sauce.
joey diaz
Yeah, it's good over there.
You know how many times I've eaten Cuban food in Jersey since I've been there?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
joey diaz
Once.
joe rogan
What?
Really?
What have you been eating?
Italian?
joey diaz
I just did a little bit of everything.
Like, dog, when you first got off the fucking plane, like, I had to devour the shit that I was missing for years, which is Chinese and pizza.
Like, everywhere you go.
joe rogan
East Coast Chinese food is strong.
joey diaz
Oh, my God.
And the one down the corner, the one next to El Nido.
It's right next to El Nido.
Szechuan, whatever, Empire Szechuan.
joe rogan
I always loved how consistent their spare ribs were.
The spare ribs were always, they had that, like, beautiful smoke ring on them, whatever the fuck they were using for barbecue sauce, and...
Chinese bear ribs.
Sensational.
joey diaz
They give you the little fucking noodles to dump in the egg drop soup.
joe rogan
When I lived in Boston, we used to love going to the Chinatown restaurants after the comedy clubs were closed because they were open late, late at night.
You could get a great meal.
You know, like seafood fried noodles.
You get like fried noodles with like calamari and different kinds of fish in it and shit and clams.
It was amazing.
And you eat scallops.
And you're eating like a king at like 1 o'clock in the morning.
They have fish tanks.
joey diaz
I can't eat late night.
I know the one that Ari and those dudes go to, they close their hours no more.
The one in the village, the real good one.
Because of COVID? Yeah, once COVID hit.
joe rogan
A lot of people are having a hard time finding people to work for them.
joey diaz
Yeah, no, that's rough.
joe rogan
That's part of the issue.
It's like people are having a hard time finding someone to staff their club or to staff their restaurant.
joey diaz
Yeah, because I thought I had to go all the way up north to get Cuban food, but I went to this town called Friot.
Jesus Christ, Joe.
On the one block, Main Street, they got a pizza joint.
Federici's been there over a hundred years.
unidentified
Wow.
joey diaz
The Sicilian is tremendous.
Three doors down, La Flo de Cua.
Fucking had some picadillo in there.
It was fucking outrageous.
Across the street, two Mexican joints, which you'll never find.
It's tough to find them.
They got one by my house, but it's not too fucking bueno.
Not too good.
Not too good.
Those are like civilized Mexicans.
They're not like those California ones.
Those fucking San Diego ones where we used to go to.
Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
So good.
joey diaz
No, no.
You're not going to find that by my house.
That's the only heartache.
Somebody said to me, what was the difference during the holidays in fucking Jersey?
I go, well, in L.A., all my brothers brought me tamales.
Felipe, George Perez, they all brought me tamales.
In Jersey, everybody gives you coquito.
It's like a Puerto Rican eggnog with fucking rum in it and other maluca juice, and you get fucking hammered.
The first time I got the COVID, that's what I drank.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Yeah, because I wanted to go to sleep.
And I'm like, well, I got nothing to go to sleep.
I couldn't smoke reefer.
I don't know if it's going to affect my lungs.
And I had a bottle of Coquito because I got it on the 23rd, the 24th.
I fucking drank the whole thing.
I was fucked up.
Rum and a bunch of milk.
But they don't put a lot of rum in there.
I had more fucking farts than anything.
I had to go to White Castle.
When I got back, you gotta make a stop.
I turned my daughter on to them.
She loved them.
But then I didn't go to White Castle for like a year.
And Saturday I went by Jimmy's house to watch a couple of the football game and they had a case of White Castles at his house.
And I took two of them.
Oh, my God.
I ate them Sunday afternoon.
They didn't come through my asshole till Monday night.
Let me tell you, I had a little stomachache.
I wonder what that is.
I had a salad today.
I wonder what's, you know.
Dog, I took a shit.
As soon as I smelled it, I go, that was those white glasses.
It was such a bad shit, I had to jump in the shower after it.
Downstairs, I just took my clothes off.
When I walked upstairs, I got dressed.
My wife didn't see me, so when I come back out, she goes, are you going down there?
I go, yeah.
She goes, do me a favor.
Put some fucking litter in the thing.
The cat blew it up down there.
I go, listen, it wasn't the cat.
It was Papa.
She goes, what the fuck was that?
I go, two White Castle.
They went right through me, those things.
Time release for your asshole, like a day and a half later.
So I'm done with White Castle now.
joe rogan
When you're eating White Castle, you know what you're doing.
It's like drinking whiskey, right?
If you're drinking whiskey, you know it's not good for you.
joey diaz
No.
When you're eating White Castle, you know it's going to come out sideways.
You know this is mouse meat.
This is somebody's pigeon.
This is something that ain't fucking good.
Let me tell you something.
In Jersey, do you know that?
Number one voted restaurant to work at is White Castle.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joey diaz
Yeah, they pay $15 an hour.
joe rogan
Oh.
joey diaz
They give you employee benefits, a cell phone and shit.
joe rogan
That's how In-N-Out is.
In-N-Out's supposed to be real good like that, too.
joey diaz
In-N-Out.
joe rogan
Same thing.
unidentified
In-N-Out.
Yeah.
joey diaz
The one that rocks by my house, just like L.A., is fucking the chicken place.
Those Christians.
Chick-fil-A? Those motherfuckers.
They don't give a fuck, dog.
joe rogan
What a crazy thing.
They won't open on Sunday.
joey diaz
No.
joe rogan
How much money they lose?
joey diaz
Dog, I respect them for that.
I respect them for that.
joe rogan
Whether you believe it or not, it's kind of a crazy move to not open on one day a week.
So you have like one-seventh less income.
You decide that you're just going to take a day off.
joey diaz
Yeah, by Costco.
By me.
It's always six lines deep, but let me tell you something.
unidentified
Always!
joe rogan
They sell a lot of chicken.
joey diaz
They sell a lot of chicken, and those motherfuckers move you.
Like, don't ever get deterred.
When you go to fucking that place, if you see a big line, give it five minutes.
They have it down to a science.
joe rogan
Oh, they move you quick.
joey diaz
Those Christians, they don't fuck around, dog.
I'll never forget that I went there one day, and I took my daughter...
This is like 10 years ago.
I took my daughter to some kid's party.
And I told my wife, I went to Chick-fil-A, because I hadn't gone since Boulder.
I go, I went to Chick-fil-A the other day.
That was good.
And some little guy turned around, somebody gone.
He's like, you're not allowed to go to Chick-fil-A. That's why I wrote that, because I actually went home and went online and read about why people were mad at them.
joe rogan
Yeah, they oppose gay marriage or something?
joey diaz
They oppose gay marriage.
They oppose abortion.
Oh, no, because their insurance plan wouldn't pay for abortions.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
That's why people were pissed.
joe rogan
The insurance plan.
joey diaz
That's why people were pissed at them.
joe rogan
So if you work for them, you get health insurance.
If you get an abortion, you're on your own.
joey diaz
You're on your own.
You gotta go to Mexico.
You gotta go to Mexico and take your chances.
joe rogan
Well, how about what Texas did?
Texas did something crazy.
They made it so that you can only be six weeks pregnant.
That's crazy.
Like, you don't even know when you're six weeks pregnant.
Like, there's a lot of girls that just think their period's late.
And then they get into the seventh week and they can't have an abortion anymore?
They gotta go to Louisiana or something?
Like, what are you talking about?
joey diaz
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Like, who are you to decide?
joey diaz
How fucking crazy is that?
You gotta go to Louisiana to get a goddamn abortion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's where religious laws are very strange.
It mixes in, rather, to the rest of the world.
People have extreme beliefs one way or the other, and they impose them on other people.
For you to decide that six weeks, you can have an abortion, but only up to six weeks, like, who the fuck are you?
Why?
What is this arbitrary number that you came up with?
joey diaz
Listen, they know a woman misses 30 days.
For a week she'll say, I'll wait five weeks.
Because every woman will go, I missed my period.
I'll wait another week and see what's going on.
That's five weeks.
joe rogan
And then she gets to six weeks, she should know.
joey diaz
And then she gets to six weeks, and then it takes a week to decide what the boyfriend wants to do, the husband, whatever.
They knew.
They knew exactly what they were doing.
It's like, Jamie, did they not know what they were doing this weekend on the Super Bowl line?
Four and a half to four.
You cover by three.
They know what the fuck is going to be the outcome.
They know it.
Seven weeks, you're just finding out.
Six weeks is when people find out.
Six and five weeks.
So, I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't like it.
joey diaz
They're getting tricky out there, brother.
joe rogan
But on the other hand, like, late-term abortions, I don't like that either.
That freaks me the fuck out.
joey diaz
By that time, the kids cooked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like when you're in months and months in, it's like, oof.
Oof.
The Chick-fil-A thing is very unusual because of the amount of profit that they miss out on.
Because of these convictions that they don't want to work on the Lord's Day.
That's the amount of profit they miss out on.
It's insane.
I mean, they're a giant chain.
How many Chick-fil-A's are there?
joey diaz
A lot.
joe rogan
Think about how much loot they're missing out on.
joey diaz
You know, I think that every large chain, like, I think, like, there's something, like, if you go to Utah, when I went to Utah, they would tell them, they put you up next to the Olive Garden.
And I was talking to the guy at the hotel, he goes, you know, that's the number one Olive Garden in the country.
More people got an Olive Garden here, to that particular Olive Garden, than anywhere else in the country.
It's always packed in there.
Don't they close?
joe rogan
Do they?
joey diaz
They have something.
joe rogan
They close on Sunday or something?
joey diaz
Something.
They do something.
joe rogan
You should call Red Band up.
joey diaz
I don't know if it's Olive Garden.
jamie vernon
No, I don't think so.
joe rogan
They don't?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
No?
joey diaz
It's somebody else.
They all have something quirky.
I don't know what.
joe rogan
Chick-fil-A likely loses out on more than $1 billion in sales every year by closing on Sundays.
And it's a brilliant business strategy.
Why is it a brilliant business strategy?
Okay.
I think they're roping me into that article.
jamie vernon
There is, but there's ways to look at that.
You know, like, you have to go on Saturday because you can't get it tomorrow.
So you have to go now because it's not available.
joey diaz
Well, what about when we were in Colorado and you can't buy beer on Sunday?
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
You know, you got to buy 2.3 or whatever that fucking shit was.
joe rogan
When I was growing up in Massachusetts, that's how it was.
We used to have to go to New Hampshire.
joey diaz
Right.
joe rogan
You'd have to drive to New Hampshire to go to get liquor on Sunday because they had blue laws.
When I was a kid, I'm pretty sure that was the case.
They call them package stores.
joey diaz
Package stores.
joe rogan
They say, we gotta go to the Packy.
They're all going to the Packy.
That was, I mean, they still have blue laws in some states where you can't hunt on Sundays.
Like in Pennsylvania, I think it's the case.
I think you're not allowed to hunt on Sundays.
They got fucking deer everywhere.
But on Sundays, the Lord's Day, you should be in church, Joey Dears.
It's very, very weird.
Like one day a week, you can't hunt?
Like on a Sunday?
Like says who?
Like why?
Like, because you believe in God?
So I can't hunt on Sunday?
Like, that's crazy.
That's supposed to apply to the entire state.
Like, you can't tell the entire state they have to abide by these Christian calendar rules.
joey diaz
I think it's town to town, because there's a town in Jersey, like an hour from me, by Asbury.
Can't sell booze there on Sundays.
You can't drive there on Sundays.
They lock it up on Saturday nights.
joe rogan
I think there's dry towns, Joey.
joey diaz
Yeah, there's dry towns.
joe rogan
There's dry towns where they're not allowed to even sell liquor.
They don't have liquor stores.
joey diaz
But you could buy weed seven days a motherfucking week, and that's all that matters.
Now everybody's fucking New York's next.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't believe New York has held on this long.
It's amazing to me that New York doesn't have legal weed.
The amount of money that they would generate, the amount of tax money alone, And also, people that are smoking weed are always going to smoke weed.
They get it.
It's not hard to get.
Especially with it legal in New Jersey, it's real easy to get.
joey diaz
But what pisses me off is they got a state that is doing it by the book called Colorado.
Colorado does it to such an extent, they were even sending tax returns in September.
You know, there were $300 checks, but who doesn't want $300 in September from the local government?
Between the weed and the gambling, These cities, look, New York City, New York State made 1.2 billion in gambling since January 6th, since gambling got passed in New York.
joe rogan
1.6 billion?
joey diaz
1.2 billion.
joe rogan
So they could have made that money the whole time.
So that could probably fix all the shit that they're running, like defunding the police and everything in Manhattan.
joey diaz
All that.
unidentified
All that.
joe rogan
Fix all that.
joey diaz
All that.
joe rogan
Governor Hochul, how do you say her name?
joey diaz
Hochul.
joe rogan
Announces nearly $2 billion in wagers over the first 30 days of mobile sports wagering.
joey diaz
Are you fucking kidding me?
You ain't gonna find no Italian bookies no more, that's for sure.
Louie's out of work, Jack.
unidentified
Everybody's out of business.
joey diaz
Because kids love this phone.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joey diaz
Anything I can do this, they don't give a fuck.
As long as I can do this...
joe rogan
One of the things the UFC's done that's brilliant now is they give you the odds in the middle of the fight.
They give you Israel Adesanya versus Robert Whitaker.
First round, big for Izzy.
Second round, Whitaker.
And you see the bet odds go up and down.
Like, they'll let you jump in.
Like, it's the second round.
You want to bet on Robert Whittaker in the second round?
unidentified
It's live action.
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Bet it.
Yeah.
joey diaz
Fucking, you know how many nights I'll come home.
There's nothing going on.
I'll see what the scores are.
I'll see what the over and under is, and I'll bet the total.
joe rogan
What's the argument, rather, against that?
The only argument against that is that you're going to create gambling junkies.
But, I mean, so what?
joey diaz
No.
joe rogan
You should be able to do what you want to do.
joey diaz
No.
I've had this discussion.
I've thought about it.
And that's why I even had it on my podcast, because I'll tell you why.
When I'm a regular fucking Joe and I call Joe Rogan to put a bet in, Joe will say, yeah, I'll put it in for you, but what time are you dropping off the money?
But even when you call your bookie on Tuesday and you go, hey, man, can I put some action in with you this week?
Yeah, you don't have to collect till the following Thursday.
The week goes from Tuesday to Tuesday after Monday Night Football.
So it starts.
So if I'm betting with a bookie, I can bet over my head, Joe.
I can bet 50, which is what I could afford.
And then once I lose, now I'm down 55. So I'm going to bet 100 to get that 55 back.
Now I'm down 165. So now I might as well bet 200 because I want to snort some coke this weekend and get some reefer too.
So I bet 200 on a Thursday night NFL game and I lose that.
So now what are my options?
I'm going to stop at 200, 350?
Fuck no.
I don't have the 350 as it is, so I might as well go for broke.
So you go Friday night NBA, Saturday college basketball, college football, Sunday NFL, Monday is the crucifixion.
I've always said that.
Sunday is when they hit Jesus in the head.
Saturday morning.
Saturday afternoon game is when they fucking put the one nail here.
The Hawaii game, if you're betting Hawaii, that means you're a degenerate gambler.
laughter That means you gotta stay up till four in the morning to get the Hawaii score.
And you're a coke fiend, because you gotta stay up till four.
And they nail you there.
Sunday early game, they put two nails in your feet.
Sunday fucking afternoon game, they put one in your forehead.
And then Monday night is the fucking full crucifixion.
It's planned that way.
That's how it goes down.
joe rogan
So you think it's planned that way just for gambling?
joey diaz
Oh my God!
Oh my God!
Do you think that they have injury reports in football?
Because they want to help you, let you know who's hurt?
No!
It's a big fucking money day.
More money was bet this last Sunday than...
Anything.
That's why you always have to have a kinky fucking game on a Super Bowl.
joe rogan
But for the longest time it was illegal to bet online.
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
For the longest time it was a big problem.
Like I remember it was legal and then it wasn't.
And there was an entire pool tour that was wrapped around the International Pro Billiards Tour.
And it was all about this guy.
That was that guy who went to jail.
Kevin something.
He went to jail for scams.
He was the guy that had the weight loss cures they don't want you to know about.
Kevin Trudeau.
Kevin Trudeau.
Where the fuck are they?
Here, smoke that.
joey diaz
Thank you, sir.
joe rogan
It was based around the idea of online gambling.
So if you and I were playing pool, people could bet money on you or bet money on me and they could do it online.
But then the government came in and they were probably in cahoots with the casinos and they put the kibosh on online gambling.
And then it became a real problem and they ran out of money real quick.
Nobody wanted to see it.
They want to gamble on things.
And if you had online gambling back then, it probably would have kept going.
That was in like the early 2000s, like 2001 or something like that.
But they made it illegal for a long time.
They put the fucking cuffs on gambling online for a long time.
And they did it because they wanted people to keep going to Atlantic City.
Sure.
joey diaz
But that's over with.
Even the casino income is down.
You ever go to the fucking Harrah's in San Diego?
joe rogan
No.
joey diaz
Not bad.
joe rogan
I think Segura just did it recently.
joey diaz
They do comedy there.
They got a huge theater there.
When you go to Harris and San Diego, you're like, do I really want to go to Las Vegas?
I could just drive down there.
You know, you got the cheap ones, Agua Caliente, and all those on the 710. You know, where we used to do comedy with the one place, the Chinese Mafia place on the 710, the Bicycle Club.
joe rogan
Yeah, Bicycle Club.
joey diaz
All those places.
They'll kill you in that motherfucker.
Those Asians in there, I love them, but they'll fucking kill you.
You want good Chinese food?
Go to the fucking bicycle club.
I used to go down there just for the Chinese food.
Rudy used to book it, $100, and you fucking ate there.
joe rogan
Do you remember when Ari was making a living off of gambling on poker?
joey diaz
Yes.
joe rogan
He was so good at poker that he was making all of his money to live on entering the poker tournaments.
No, no, no.
He would go to the casinos.
joey diaz
That's who turned me on for the bicycle club.
joe rogan
Ari did?
joey diaz
That's hilarious.
Yeah, because we were talking about Chinese food.
joe rogan
Who did we work there with?
We worked there with somebody.
We did a show at the Bicycle Club once.
Who the fuck did we work with?
joey diaz
If I'm gonna tell you who booked that room first, guess who my booker was the first time I worked that room?
unidentified
Who?
joey diaz
He was an 18-year-old kid named Gabriel Iglesias.
joe rogan
Really?
Gabriel's 18?
He was booking that room?
joey diaz
18, 19, paid 35 bucks.
joe rogan
Wow.
joey diaz
And you had to go back on Friday to get the 35 bucks.
That's how I came tight with Gabriel.
Then there was another one that I took you to that was Rudy Moreno's.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did that one too.
joey diaz
That was a big-time Asian place.
They play all those pagwa and all that stuff.
unidentified
He took me to a bar that Rudy had, too.
joe rogan
There was a bar show, I think that was Rudy's, or maybe Rudy was the host of it.
joey diaz
Yeah, Rudy had all those bar shows.
joe rogan
He had a lot of bar shows.
joey diaz
A lot of bar shows.
He had one on Mondays by the strip club in Orange County, a big, nasty strip club.
joe rogan
He did a lot of them at the Ice House.
joey diaz
He did a lot of them at the Ice House.
He had the one that he cut my teeth on that I'm grateful to Rudy Moreno every day is the Brave Bull.
That was $25 a night on Friday and Saturday.
It was $50 every weekend for my first two years in LA. Wow.
Saturday nights.
So if you had a spot at 1215, you could do two or three spots early on.
That's what we did.
I made my money in those Mexican rooms, probably.
joe rogan
You did a lot of those gigs.
I remember when you were telling me that, like, a lot of these, you would get mad.
You'd go, you know, sometimes you gotta stop doing these fucking shows in Hollywood.
You gotta go out there to a fucking shithole.
And you were telling me about some of these places you would go and show up and just do ten minutes, and you didn't even get paid.
You would go to these, like, very sketchy neighborhoods.
joey diaz
Tremendous.
joe rogan
In weird places, like, driving out.
joey diaz
There was one that we used to go to on Mondays that started at ten.
Fucking crazy.
joe rogan
10 p.m.
joey diaz
And they'd put out like a free wing basket and the wings were old.
Everything was old.
We had no money.
Me, Felipe.
The bartender was hot.
She hated us.
And then we only got enough money to go to the donut place.
But the best thing about that place was it was in Huntington Park, maybe.
Huntington Park, one of those.
There was a Chinese restaurant.
How many times I went in there, ordered food, and they told me to get the fuck out?
Because they would only serve to Chinese people.
What?
Bro, and in fact, they wouldn't even serve to Chinese people.
They were running a card game there.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
joey diaz
So we would go there and see fucking 80 cars.
You go to the restaurant, there's not a fucking soul sitting in the restaurant.
joe rogan
Whoa.
joey diaz
When you walk into the restaurant, you can kind of hear the yelling and screaming.
joe rogan
Whoa.
joey diaz
They would tell us all the time, get the fuck out.
You leave now.
Go, now.
We don't, no food.
No food.
You run color.
joe rogan
That's a dangerous move, huh?
To run an illegal card game.
joey diaz
Right there.
joe rogan
Those are always in movies, right?
You go in the back of a store, they push open a fucking bookcase and you go down a hallway and there's like some secret room where everybody's looking up and they're all smoking cigarettes.
joey diaz
There was one in Harlem that you pulled your car into the garage and it would put you to the warehouse.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
And right when you got out of the warehouse, it was a full-blown casino.
181st Street, right there.
Hookers, drug, like a...
They had like a drug counter.
Like that.
You walked up to the guy and said, what do you got?
I got quaaludes, I got sleeping pills, I got cocaine.
That's how fucking insane it was.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy that you're allowed to gamble in some places.
It's kind of crazy, like a place like Vegas or Atlantic City.
You're allowed to go there, and you can gamble, but everywhere else, no.
joey diaz
How crazy is it that New York's got gambling, New Jersey's got gambling.
I went to Pennsylvania a couple weeks ago to a tubing with the kids.
I want to put a bed in, and all of a sudden they're like, oops, location.
You're not all available to gamble in Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
joey diaz
Yeah, because they check your location.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
You can't make a bet in Philly?
joey diaz
No.
unidentified
What?
joey diaz
I was in, like, you know, at Blue Mountain.
And I was, like, at the hotel.
And I'm like, that's right.
There's a fight tonight or something.
joe rogan
That's insane.
joey diaz
And when I went to look at the phone, when I went to hit the thing, it said, nope.
That's insane.
Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
That's insane.
joey diaz
Nashville, Denver.
jamie vernon
Is that because you're registered in New York?
joey diaz
I registered in Jersey.
I opened the account when I moved to Jersey.
jamie vernon
Joe, you can bet there, but you have to be registered there.
joey diaz
Is that what it is?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
joey diaz
Wow, that's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
So you would have to live there?
jamie vernon
It's for the tax purposes, because once you make over, I don't know, whatever it is, like $600, they either have to keep it or send you a 1099. That's interesting.
joe rogan
So if you placed a bet while you were in the state of Pennsylvania, does that mean you owe them money?
jamie vernon
To do it online, probably.
If you were in the casino, that's separate because you're physically there showing your ID or whatever it is.
joe rogan
That's interesting, though, isn't it?
That if you made a bet in a hotel in Pennsylvania, you'd have to pay taxes there on that money.
You don't consider it your income tax wherever you live.
Nope.
You made it there in that location, which is weird because you're doing it online.
jamie vernon
It's definitely squirrely.
joe rogan
It's squirrely.
It's super squirrely.
I mean, I'm not saying you should get out of taxes, but that seems annoying.
joey diaz
Bro, the gambling, it's going off.
But that means there's no more bookies.
I mean, I'm sure there's some people who just take their money to Vegas.
There's some people who still believe in bookies because they don't trust a computer.
Or they don't want to just trust what anybody else is looking at.
And I understand that, too.
There's people who don't want you to know what they're doing.
joe rogan
The whole thing about tracking you on your phone, that it's normal now.
We just normalize getting tracked everywhere.
Allow location?
unidentified
Okay.
joey diaz
Allow location.
joe rogan
Tell me where I am.
joey diaz
But you know what the good thing is?
I'm not doing nothing bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the good thing.
joey diaz
So it's like I'm not stabbing somebody or I got an alibi, you know.
joe rogan
This is like the slippery slope.
You know, that's what people were worried about when all that Edward Snowden shit came out, that the government can just track you.
But now everybody just gives it up to apps.
You know, and that they can listen to everything you say.
Well, how many of your fucking phone...
Has it been proven that your phone is actually listening to you?
joey diaz
Yes.
joe rogan
Right?
Can we say that or are we crazy?
jamie vernon
That's tough.
I would have to say, yeah, it probably is.
joe rogan
I definitely think they could turn your microphone on and they can make your phone listen to you.
I think that's a fact.
joey diaz
I heard a fucked up story, and I'll drop it on you here.
I have an acquaintance that's going to go to jail because of what they said on an Alexa.
joe rogan
Oh no.
joey diaz
So do not believe nothing.
I wouldn't put a fucking Alexa in my house.
If you pay me.
When I walk into people's houses and I see an Alexa, I make a mental note to shut the fuck up.
Only speak when you know those people.
Alexa, play Led Zeppelin.
I don't say nothing.
Alexa, I fucking hate you.
I don't say nothing to Alexa.
I will never talk to fucking Alexa.
But they're gonna go to jail because something happened in their house like a...
A fight.
And they actually called the cops through Alexa.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
joey diaz
So you just want to avoid all this shit.
If you have an Alexa in your house, take it out right now.
You can play the music by yourself, you dumb fucks.
Now you got people listening.
Listen, you got to assume that no matter what you do, they're listening to you.
I don't give a fuck about laws or anything.
We can't listen after 30 seconds if you're not talking about a criminal enterprise.
Listen, if you've got a cell phone, they can tap into you, and they know where you are.
It's funny, when I go to jiu-jitsu, you have to log in there.
They have, like, a computer.
Like, you have to make a reservation.
That's what I like about Hollis.
You can make, like...
I just go to Zen app and just fucking go, I want to go to Wednesday class, and they'll lock a space in you.
I think they started because of COVID, but now they don't give a fuck.
But when you go there, you have to tap in, and I'm so excited to tap in.
I always go, 20 years ago, I wouldn't tap into that motherfucker, because I wouldn't want nobody to know where I was.
Now I'm an old man.
I don't give a fuck if you know where I am.
joe rogan
Yeah, my worry about all that stuff is like, who has access to your data?
Who can track you?
jamie vernon
Did you see this come out a couple weeks ago?
joe rogan
NYPD had a secret fund for surveillance tools.
Documents reveal the police bought facial recognition software, vans equipped with x-ray machines, and Stingray cell site simulators with no public oversight.
Yikes.
jamie vernon
There's a story within the last couple weeks, I'm trying to remember exactly what happened, but they tracked whoever it was and caught them using license plate camera things and followed them around the city and found their location.
It was when Michael K. Williams died.
That's how they tracked where he bought.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
They have on video him buying the fentanyl.
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
So is that good?
Because you can catch crimes.
They didn't stop the crime from happening, but they've caught who did it.
jamie vernon
And I don't think that helps anything, really.
joe rogan
It doesn't, right?
It gives a lot of power to people that are working as police officers.
You know, if you could just, like, zoom in on people like that, listen to their cell phone conversations, like...
They're just people.
That's part of the problem, right?
But on the other hand, it's like...
You want them to be able to catch people when someone's done something fucked up.
So where do you draw the line?
joey diaz
We have a constitution that they wrote.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
And it's still fucking illegal.
It's like an entrapment.
I mean...
joe rogan
Like if they catch someone planting a car bomb somewhere, this is a good for instance, and you can show on a video somehow or another the people that planted the car bomb, and that car bomb blows up and a bunch of people die, shouldn't you be able to find out who planted that fucking car bomb?
That's the slippery part.
That's the slippery part.
joey diaz
And don't tell me they're not doing that already.
joe rogan
I think they are.
joey diaz
They go right to a satellite and see what images they shot on that block or in that area.
They're already doing that.
You have to assume.
joe rogan
You have to assume they're doing that.
joey diaz
They're already doing that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And what are the satellite capabilities like now?
It must be incredible.
Must be amazing.
Right?
jamie vernon
That's how Google Earth started.
joe rogan
Yeah.
In fact, how crazy is this?
joey diaz
How crazy is this that burglars aren't even casing joints out anymore?
They just go on Google Earth.
They see what cars you park outside.
unidentified
Really?
joey diaz
They case your joint now from fucking...
joe rogan
Does Google Earth update regularly?
Does it?
Really?
jamie vernon
I mean, it's not like today, like every day.
Not today.
Yeah, and there's probably ways to get access to it.
joe rogan
Like how many times a month?
jamie vernon
At least maybe once a month in certain areas.
joey diaz
And they have something that is kind of live because they have caught, you know, burglars doing it, car thieves doing it.
joe rogan
I feel like we're in an episode of Black Mirror, but we just don't know it yet.
joey diaz
No.
joe rogan
You know?
It feels like an episode of Black Mirror.
joey diaz
Because these guys were getting an order for a black Mercedes.
They'd go on the computer.
They'd find one.
They'd go to look.
I mean, it was all tracked on a fucking computer.
I never even went by the house before.
This was all done right there.
joe rogan
I watched an episode of Black Mirror the other day.
I haven't seen that show in a while.
You ever watch that on Netflix?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's all about, like, dystopian future shit.
And the one was about the social credit system.
Did you see that one?
Oh, my God, that was nuts.
It was all about, like, what could go wrong with us, you know, if we get too wrapped up in grading each other on numbers.
That one.
unidentified
Remember?
joe rogan
That was a nutty one.
It was a real weird one.
But it's like, I kind of feel like that's a real possibility for people.
That could be a thing we really do one day.
Have a score.
Everyone get a number.
People be obsessed by their score.
Their social score.
Like, seeing that in that show, I was like, yikes.
You could kind of convince people to go along with that.
Yeah, that one.
The thing that freaked me out about it was it was a fun show, fun episode, but you could kind of get people to go along with something like that.
I don't think it would be that hard.
I think people would give in to some sort of a score system like that.
That's a dangerous thing, Joey Diaz.
That's a dangerous thing.
That's a dangerous thing.
Because then you're putting so much thought into like a number.
People get obsessed with numbers.
They get real weird when it comes to numbers.
If you give people a number, like, you're five stars, Joey.
You're like, oh, I'm five stars.
Yeah, but Mike's seven stars.
You're like, we get obsessed.
I want to be seven stars.
What do I have to do?
What do I have to do to get the same rating that Mike got?
And we would want that.
You meet somebody.
After like a year or two, we would get used to it.
You'd meet somebody, you know.
Like, I can't hang out with this guy, he's a four.
You know, I mean, it's just like, he brings my credit down when I'm around him.
joey diaz
You know, I'm bringing a three to my house.
joe rogan
Exactly.
joey diaz
What the fuck is wrong with you?
joe rogan
That's what this episode is.
joey diaz
No sevens allowed, alright?
Fucking bringing a two to my house.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, that's a, that could be worrisome.
joey diaz
And speaking about Michael J. White, whatever his name is, what's his name, bro?
joe rogan
Michael Williams?
joey diaz
No, the guy that they, Michael, when was the last time you watched that show?
joe rogan
You know, I've watched only like one episode of that show ever.
joey diaz
It's time for you to watch the pilot and watch all six episodes.
I just finished it.
He is by far the greatest villain of all time on any TV show.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
Omar?
I mean, I forgot how good he was.
Walks into a crack neighborhood with a shotgun, raises the shotgun up, cocks it in the air, and says, oh, Omar's here.
Who wants to see some motherfuckers get shot?
And all of a sudden, he's standing there, and within two minutes, a bag of crack will fly out the window.
Because you know he's going to go up there and shoot everybody.
That's how bad of a fucking savage this motherfucker is.
jamie vernon
Okay.
joey diaz
Omar is coming.
Ow!
And he just stops, cocks the gun, and it's all over.
Omar is coming.
joe rogan
That was like Bourdain's favorite show ever.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't want to.
I want to play this scene, but like...
joey diaz
Go ahead, play it.
unidentified
I need to watch it.
jamie vernon
It's so good.
joe rogan
Okay, play it.
jamie vernon
It's only a minute long.
Spoiler alert if you've never seen The Wire.
unidentified
Hey, yo!
Check it out.
Here he comes.
Well, something ain't right, yo.
Watch out, man.
Look at that fool.
joey diaz
It's packing.
unidentified
Here he comes.
Yo.
Yo, son, come on.
Yo, Omar's coming, man.
joey diaz
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Mm.
Yeah.
joey diaz
The cheese stands alone.
unidentified
Whoa.
joey diaz
He's a good bad guy.
And then I went right from that to Oz to really lift the fucking stakes.
joe rogan
I forgot about Oz.
joey diaz
Oz is very good.
The Wire, tremendous police show.
The best I've seen in years.
Makes you fucking think about your little three numbers of TV shows that you like.
This is good.
The Kima, The Undercover Cop, The Chick, just real life shit.
This is tremendous.
unidentified
Took us four weeks.
joe rogan
I got a set aside time for that.
And I got a set aside time.
Everyone says Yellowstone.
joey diaz
Yes.
joe rogan
Have you seen it?
joey diaz
Except this season's a little funky.
joe rogan
How many seasons are that?
joey diaz
Four or five.
They say it's like the Sopranos of the country or something like that.
That's what my friends call it.
They say it's like whatever the fuck it is.
joe rogan
I might rewatch that too.
joey diaz
I like Kevin Costner.
So anything Kevin Costner.
I watch Draft Day all the time when it comes out.
Him and fucking the dude from Boston, you know.
joe rogan
Remember we did Dances with Wolves?
joey diaz
Dances with Wolves was tremendous.
joe rogan
That was an amazing movie.
joey diaz
And The Bodyguard.
joe rogan
Yeah, with Whitney Houston.
joey diaz
Just to see him now, he's like a warm American dish.
It's like eating meatloaf when you watch him.
He just makes you feel good about being an American.
He's such a good guy.
He made a tremendous movie if you ever remember to see it.
It is the worst beating in a movie.
It's called Revenge.
He plays a tennis coach to Anthony Quinn in Mexico, who's a drug dealer, and he sleeps with his girlfriend.
Anthony Quinn finds out.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
joey diaz
The beating is tremendous, and he throws a beating on her, cuts her face, and turns her into a hoe in a Mexican prison, and he has to fucking save her.
It's been on Showtime...
A ton lately.
And by the way, I know you like music a little bit.
This documentary I saw is going to rock your world because you don't know shit about this motherfucker.
I thought I did until I watched this documentary.
If you get a chance on Showtime, they're still playing it.
Rick James.
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Yeah?
joey diaz
Like I had to watch it two times and go, what the fuck was that?
joe rogan
What's it called again?
joey diaz
It's got to be like a slinging dick.
I swear to God.
jamie vernon
It's called Bitchin' The Sound Inferior.
joey diaz
Yeah.
What's the name of it?
joe rogan
Bitchin'.
unidentified
Oh my God, Joe Rogan.
joey diaz
This guy was a fucking savage.
Buffalo didn't want to go to Vietnam.
He went to fucking Canada to hide.
He hung up with the guy from Emerson Lake and Palmer.
He met up with your buddy Neil Young.
They were in a band together.
All these motherfuckers were in a band.
That dude right there.
Then they arrested him and then he fucking, he went to Buffalo, got some whatever, he went out to LA and after that, you gotta watch this.
To be honest with you, he's a fucking savage.
Musician savage, like I didn't even know this shit.
People talked on this, it's just tremendous.
The shit he did, his attitude, how he fucking, you know, played his music in the shows he would do.
He had all these albums.
He was with fucking Motown.
He was a music executive before, like, you know, all this shit that you don't know about people.
And they said when he rocked, he fucking rocked.
This is a great documentary.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That looks amazing.
It's a Showtime documentary?
joey diaz
Look, Big Daddy Kane, everybody's on here.
He talks about crack piping the chick.
That was one of my first jokes.
That was one of my first jokes when I was in Open Micah that Rick James is the first, you know, superhero.
You know, something stupid.
I'll burn you with this crack pipe.
Something fucking stupid.
So when are you going to come to Jersey and visit me?
joe rogan
I'll come again.
I'll set up a visit just to come visit you.
joey diaz
We'll go to El Nino this time, then we'll go to Osteria and get the lobster fucking ravioli.
joe rogan
Maybe I'll get you to go on stage at the Stress Factory.
joey diaz
Yeah, we'll go to the Stress Factory.
In fact, that's where I'm going Saturday night to eat.
joe rogan
Are you?
Beautiful.
joey diaz
I'm going to the steakhouse.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is it, Steak 85 or something like that?
joey diaz
Yeah, the head chef is at Gracie's, is at Hollis Gracie's.
joe rogan
Oh, is he really?
joey diaz
Fuck yeah, he told me you were at it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I met him, I met him.
It was funny, we went over there to play pool, and we went to this steakhouse just because we found it online, and so we're eating there, and he goes, are you here to see Brewer?
The chef came over and said, hi, I said, I thought he moved to Florida.
And he goes, he did, but he's doing stand-up across the street.
I'm like, what?
No way.
So the stress factory was right across the street from that steakhouse.
I had no idea.
I just knew where the steakhouse was.
joey diaz
You've never been in that steakhouse?
joe rogan
Never been in that steakhouse before.
That was the first time ever.
But the thing was that Brewer was right across the street.
So I went to see him and I caught him like right in between shows.
It was like perfect timing.
I got to see him and hang out with him in the green room in his opener and just talk shit with him, have a good time.
joey diaz
That's a good fucking steakhouse, bro.
joe rogan
It's a great steakhouse.
joey diaz
Like I said, I got 20 other restaurants for you to check out.
joe rogan
There's great food in New Jersey, that's for damn sure.
There's a lot of people, man.
joey diaz
A lot of people, a lot.
The pizza, like it's just, everybody has good pizza.
You can't really, like if you tell me, you gotta drive to the, no I don't.
Because to stay in business, you've got to have a good pizza.
You've got to have good pizzas and you've got to have good bagels.
You've got to have a good breakfast sandwich.
I go to two places because, see, my area is all Staten Island Italians.
They moved over.
So first they start in Brooklyn, then they go to Staten Island, or they start in Staten Island, they go to Brooklyn, then they move to my area.
And they bring their sandwiches and their food, like Nona's.
You know, all those restaurants on the 9 are all Staten Island businesses.
You know, so, dog, it's just tremendous.
joe rogan
Wow.
joey diaz
It really is.
Danino's is a Staten Island pizza that's very good.
I'm a Carlos guy.
They're by my house, so I go over there.
Bro, they got pasta fizzou.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
I go in there, I got a bowl of pasta fizzou and a salad.
I don't even get the pizza.
Because I've had, you know, the pizza's just right there.
They got the pizza with the ziti on it.
They got all that stuff.
joe rogan
It's amazing how good they figured out pizza in New Jersey and in New York.
joey diaz
And in New York and in Boston.
I mean, you know, it's the East Coast, man.
joe rogan
That pizza's a different kind of pizza.
joey diaz
We grew up on two slices a day.
I used to eat 14 slices a week.
Now I eat two.
I get one, like, one afternoon I break.
I gotta get, like, a 2 o'clock slice one day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
And then I'll go like on a Friday and get a cup of soup and a slice.
I can't do the two a day no more.
I'll blow up like a fucking, you know.
joe rogan
I told you when I used to play pool in White Plains, we used to go to Nicky's Pizzeria.
joey diaz
Tremendous.
joe rogan
It was right next to Executive Billiards.
We'd leave Executive Billiards, walk down the street a little bit to Nicky's, and they'd have white pizza.
It's like a casserole.
You ever have white pizza?
joey diaz
Tremendous.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it was white cheese on it and the olive oil.
unidentified
It was so good.
joey diaz
And chunks of garlic.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Chunks of garlic and pieces of ham.
Thinly sliced ham.
It was insane.
joey diaz
I'll tell you what they have a lot of in Jersey that I didn't eat in California.
Short written.
unidentified
Really?
joey diaz
Everybody makes a short rib rag, dude.
That old fucking, when it comes out, that osteria, when they bring it out, the dish weighs 50 fucking pounds.
When you put it in your refrigerator with the bag and the aluminum foil, the next morning you open it in your refrigerator like, fuck, it smells like an animal in there.
That's how good it is.
Tremendous.
They have a short rib at that place, El Nido.
They had a short rib gnocchi.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joey diaz
Fucking, you just salivate.
I'm happy I fucking stuck to my points and I lose weight back there because I don't touch desserts.
It's not worth it.
joe rogan
The way you feel afterwards.
unidentified
No.
joey diaz
I love just eating good fucking food, man.
joe rogan
Well, his pasta was insane, that Il Nido place.
It didn't even taste like pasta.
It didn't feel like pasta when it hit your stomach.
It was like Italian pasta, like pasta you get in Italy.
Or when you're eating it, like your body doesn't freak out.
It doesn't feel like you'll go, oh.
It was light.
It felt good.
joey diaz
His sauce with the two Y.O. meatballs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
That's what you do.
Just order the red sauce and get the two Y.O. meatballs.
Those Y.O. meatballs are so fucking good.
joe rogan
Do you remember how he explained about the wheat?
What was he explaining about the different wheat that he uses?
joey diaz
That he goes to Sicily and he gets the wheat.
And when he brings it back, the wheat is...
I think he told you, but you have the Mexican dude, Dave.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I give him the speech, you know, the whole fucking deal.
So I guess that pasta, if you eat it, you don't register if you're diabetic.
joe rogan
Is that real, though?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
joey diaz
He had a bunch of people going there that are gluten-free, and they could eat his pasta.
joe rogan
But it's still, it isn't like the whole diabetic thing.
It's a carbs thing, isn't it?
joey diaz
Right.
But something from the pasta in Sicily, it doesn't, yeah, that's what he was saying.
I never read it.
joe rogan
We gotta not give out that kind of medical advice.
You know, we can't be giving out medical misinformation on diabetes and pasta.
joey diaz
You know, I was hoping to open up a weed store back there.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
But it's too rough for the licenses.
joe rogan
That's a lot of pain in the ass too, Joey.
You don't want to deal with that.
You need someone smart to set you up as an ambassador.
joey diaz
That's what we're doing with Ice Cream Shop right here.
See, I brought you some.
unidentified
Beautiful.
joey diaz
These are all the strands, the fucking sashimi, tremendous, the cocoa.
joe rogan
Well, thank you, sir.
joey diaz
And I'll tell you what's really good.
The rainbow ruts is 37%.
I only brought one fucking rolling paper.
I slipped today.
I should have brought the whole pack, but what are you going to do?
You can't want everything.
joe rogan
You can't.
Joey Diaz, I love you to death.
joey diaz
I love you too.
joe rogan
It was great hanging out with you.
joey diaz
So when am I coming back here?
joe rogan
Let's do it again.
Whenever you want to.
joey diaz
No, no, no.
The club.
joe rogan
What's the EPA? We'll talk.
We'll talk when we're off the air.
joey diaz
Okay.
joe rogan
I'll let you know.
All right.
Thanks, man.
joey diaz
Thank you for having me.
joe rogan
It was great talking to you, brother.
joey diaz
Always great.
I just wanted to come down here and set the record straight.
joe rogan
It was a lot of fun.
joey diaz
And we'll go fucking off.
We'll yell at some people.
joe rogan
We'll do this regularly.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
Beautiful.
All right.
Love it.
joe rogan
Love you too.
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