Jimmy Corsetti, a former Target fraud investigator turned YouTube researcher, explores the Sahara’s Rishat structure—30-mile-wide concentric circles 1,200+ feet above sea level—linked to Atlantis and the Younger Dryas flood (~11,600 years ago) via salt deposits. With Rogan, he challenges Egypt’s 4,500-year-old pyramid timeline, citing carbon dating flaws (800-year margin of error), missing hieroglyphic tomb evidence, and repurposed limestone casings. Corsetti’s DMT visions align with Yosef Awian’s claim that pyramids symbolize humanity, not just tombs, while questioning their energy function theories like Dunn’s Giza Power Plant. Their debate reveals academia’s resistance to lost civilizations despite clues—from climate shifts to underground tunnels—and ends with Corsetti’s call to embrace curiosity over corporate drudgery amid economic uncertainty. [Automatically generated summary]
Well, so it could be something as simple as stealing cash, but that's like the easiest thing to catch, so that's more rare.
Some people steal merchandise, so you've got to think about it.
Like, if you were to take, because we were joking about DVDs earlier, no one's doing them anymore, but when I was last year in 2014, DVD box sets for like...
Television series, those things would go 50, 60 bucks.
But if you see a whole box of them and you sell them on the black market, there's no overhead.
And other things that people do is mark things down.
Like, you know, you'll have a TV or patio furniture or something, whatever.
Think about it.
And you just mark that stuff down.
And, yeah.
But it could be something simple as stuff.
It could be people that are just trying to...
I don't know.
I mean, think about it.
Like, it's...
Actually, let me put it like this.
And this is for the external.
This is the shoplifters.
You want to guess what the number one most stolen thing out of Target is out of anything else?
And I was talking about his thoughts on intuition and where his inventions came from and how he would just sit around thinking up all of his inventions.
It wasn't through tinkering around.
He was convinced that there was ideas coming to him from the universe.
Which I think a lot of people who are very creative, they think that way.
A lot of singers will tell you that their songs come from just like they come from the air.
You know, some of the best jokes that I've ever written just seemed like they've come out of nowhere, which is really confusing because it's like, you know, that's what the concept of the muse is, right?
The concept of the muse is you sit like, have you ever read Steven Pressfield?
Like if you live life like there's a God, if you live life like there's real morals and ethics to the universe, I feel like you can get a better result.
And it's not like that you should only be ethical and kind because you feel like there's like a big guy in the sky watching you.
But if you do uphold the principles, like the primary principles of Christianity, right?
Do unto others as you would have to them to you.
You know, treat everyone as if they are your brother or your sister and, you know, love and kindness and that, you know, all these different very...
It's easy to understand principles of love and happiness and camaraderie.
If you just follow those, they're really beneficial.
They really work.
Now, does that mean that a guy came back from the dead and walked on water?
That seems a little fishy.
But if you just follow those principles as if there really is a God, I believe that it's a great framework for life.
And I think that you could live a better, more fulfilled life if you live like that.
And the very fact that we're sitting here talking about it.
So I was thinking not long ago, that's like, okay, let's say Big Bang, like the creation.
And I can wrap my head around an expansion of energy.
Right.
And then something.
And then so essentially, if the Big Bang happened, as they say, that's essentially an explosion.
So like, aren't explosions, essentially, that's death.
But yet, here we are, we're made out of stardust, right?
Like, that's science.
They said we are made of stardust.
And yet here we are discussing meaning.
So I look at like love, humor, desire or the pleasure of arts, of all things, you know, whether it includes comedy or the way we feel when we see nature or a painting or anything else.
And yet, I think that the meaning is the evidence of the divine.
And I wouldn't say it as like, you're talking about God, it's like someone in the clouds or whatever, like, you know, going to judge us or something like that.
But doesn't that mean that we're the universe experiencing ourselves or itself in some way?
That the fact that we're Many people describe it that way, yeah, that we're the universe experiencing ourselves.
If you wanted to be really pragmatic, you would say that all these things, whether it's love or creativity or the desire for success and to have your work appreciated, what all those things really do is they encourage camaraderie, which encourages cooperation, which gets more work done, Creativity encourages innovation, which creates better and newer things.
And the desire to be appreciated for one's work makes one work extra hard to achieve these goals.
But ultimately, what are all these goals?
Like, what's the end result?
The end result is better things.
Constant innovation.
Better thing.
I mean, I've talked about this many times before because I'm obsessed with it, but for the people that have heard this, please forgive me.
I am obsessed with the concept that human beings are essentially like a caterpillar that's creating a cocoon.
And that out of this, this technological butterfly will emerge.
And we don't even realize why we're doing it.
The caterpillar is not consciously aware, hey, it's time to make the cocoon.
The human being stuck in traffic, working a 9 to 5, working for Apple every day, is not really thinking, hey, I am a part of this thing that will one day give birth to artificial intelligence and to sentient beings that are made out of carbon and silicon and, you know, they're created in the laboratory rather than in a womb.
And so it gets me back when we're talking about, like, where these ideas come from and the idea of a muse.
Because, like, Joe, the...
Because you said you've got these ideas for jokes that have panned out quite well, right?
And it's like, so I look at my videos and sometimes I'm really struggling with a title and a thumbnail, which is, I would say the most important thing is you got to get people to click, right?
They'll just click off and they'll never come back.
But it's interesting.
It's that sometimes it's when I put the intention out into the universe, I'll give myself this feeling of self-belief that I am getting just the right title and just the right thumbnail to get me views.
Because that was my original goal.
I'm like, all right, I'm going to go down this YouTube path.
Then I might as well do it.
I'm going to go big.
I want 1 million subscribers and I want to get videos to get millions of views and And I want to teach something to somebody in the process and have fun doing it and encourage other people to look into things.
And the thing is, is that sometimes with some of these ideas, I'm like, from one second to the next, all of a sudden the idea comes and it worked out quite well in so many times over and over again.
Except for that sometimes I'll be tossing in over these ideas for weeks of focusing on it.
And sometimes that's what delays me so long because if I have a good content, I'm like, I need to know how to share this.
But if you can't market, especially with YouTube and how big it is now, and you've got to show somebody why they should click on your video and Just focusing on it enough isn't necessarily what's brought me my ideas.
I've struggled tremendously by focusing too hard and then all of a sudden when I maybe let go a little bit, I get this flash and I'm like, ah, that's how it should look.
Because especially when I'm, these topics I'm talking about, like the say Atlantis, which we're gonna have to talk about that.
How do you make a video when there's like 10,000 other Atlantis videos out there?
What's gonna make someone wanna click on this one More than the others.
So it's got to be a title.
It's maybe perhaps a little provocative or have certain keywords for the algorithm.
And I've learned like with thumbnails, you got to, because if people are literally- So you think about this shit a lot.
I created – all right, so August of 2016 was when my first videos started coming out.
Or actually, that's not true.
June, July, but those videos don't exist anymore.
The earliest one you'll find on my channel will be, I believe, August of 2016. So it's been a process of trying to – I didn't have 100 subscribers for the first four months.
It was a goal, because I'm like, alright, so I did a complete 180 in my life, and I went from this path that was more, let's say, normal and all the checkboxes, and I'm like, well, if I'm going to do this, I want to be successful at it.
Yeah, no, that was a big one that I saw because I've been fascinated by the concept of Atlantis, you know.
Ever since I had these conversations with Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock about the Younger Dryas impact theory and this concept that somewhere in the roughly around 11,000, 12,000 years ago, we were hit by a series of comments.
And it's pretty evident that that's a fact.
If you do the core samples of the Earth, they find this nuclear glass all over the Earth that exists in that time period.
And it seems like something happened that reset civilization.
And there's very little evidence of advanced civilizations before that up until recently, up until the last couple of decades.
They started uncovering things like Gobekli Tepe.
And all these other structures that are clearly from more than 12,000 years ago.
And they're really complex and really large with enormous stones.
And it's sort of caused people to rethink the history of the earth and the history of human civilizations.
And Atlantis has always been the big one.
That has been the one that everybody talked about was this incredibly advanced civilization and no one can figure out where it is.
I think that Atlantis, because surely that wouldn't have been necessarily the name just through like the change of language, you know, over, let's say, 12, 13,000 years ago, which would be the time frame.
So like surely there would be several different changes of language, but I think it represented a civilization that was doing great things.
They were more global than what many people think would be possible.
Atlantis was said to be a kingdom made up of – or an empire, excuse me, made up of ten kingdoms.
And then there was the lost city of Atlantis, which was the capital, which was said to be made up of concentric circles, two of water, three of land.
And essentially that they were obliterated by a cataclysm as passed down by Plato, although it's worth mentioning that Plato got the story of Atlantis from Solon, who was his uncle separated by six generations.
But what people – most people don't realize is that Solon had traveled to Egypt, and so it's the ancient Egyptians is where that tale comes from, which makes it even more bizarre because I would argue that the most spectacular ancient civilization is the Egyptians.
R-I-C-H-A-T. It's worth mentioning that in the first couple, I just want to say it's Rishat.
I used to call it Rickhot.
I was mispronouncing it.
But let me ask you this, Joe, real quick.
When you saw my video, was that the very first time you had ever seen this thing before?
That's the thing.
When I first saw this, I was like, what the fuck is that?
By the way, you see that white?
All those white blemishes?
That's salt.
This was under the ocean and people, let me just say, you mentioned Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock.
I love them.
And I know for sure that they don't particularly think this is the site for a few different reasons.
So let me say there's absolute doubt.
Even I am not 100% certain.
I'm not even 100% certain Atlantis existed.
What I am certain is that humans were doing spectacular things in a civil, you know, a cataclysmic event happened called the Younger Dryas and reset something for somebody.
So let me say that it is considered to be mysterious.
They're not 100% certain of it.
However, the consensus is that it was a volcanic dome that had risen and collapsed multiple times like 100 million years ago, allegedly.
I say allegedly.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with that.
I'm just saying I would like to know where sometimes they get these figures from.
Explain to me why it was 100 million years ago and not 99 or 98, because here we are talking about how crazy things changed in just the last 12, 13,000 years.
So when they throw around these numbers, you know, 1 million years in itself is an incredibly long period of time.
Getting back to your question, some had originally thought that maybe it was an impact site from an asteroid perhaps, but there's no evidence for it.
I've never seen anything, obviously I'm not an archaeologist, but I've never seen anything like this.
I mean, if you study structures that are like man-made structures, I've never seen anything like this that humans have made, but I've definitely never seen like...
That's just showing you the- What it used to look like?
No, this is what it looks like right now through, I forgot what you call this type of animation, but it's essentially, it's a satellite imagery that they enhanced in order for you to see the difference in elevation and the actual structure to itself.
Okay, so if there was water in this area, you would see it this way, that it would be these concentric circles that are raised above the water, and then the water would be inside of it like that.
That's what I believe, and that's what makes the most sense to me.
Others will disagree, and let me tell you why.
It is currently 1,200, 1,300 feet above sea level.
It's 250 miles inland.
And so some people say this was never under the ocean, at least not for the last...
Tens of millions of years is what the scientists claim.
I argue that since the salt is still there, and not only that, Jamie, if you go to the other images that show you more of the white, the one that you were previously on, the one to the middle to the left, right there.
So those areas with the most white blemishes happen to be the areas that are the lowest in elevation, which to me tells me that saltwater had settled there.
But not only that, Joe.
Atlantis was said to be, like we said, you know, multiple rings of, you know, water and land.
However, it was said to open to the sea to the south.
So remember when Randall was on your show and he showed you the Missoula floodplains and all those giant ripples from the huge current that it went through?
This is here.
So scroll in.
Right there where your cursor is, Jamie.
Scroll right in.
You're going to see those same water ripples.
Keep going, because what you're looking at here is panned out.
Just to clarify, that white is salt, and that is a...
Because a lot of people don't know, Joe, that the Sahara Desert wasn't a thing until approximately 5,000 years ago.
It's only in the last several years.
And by the way, I'm quoting MIT research here.
The Sahara goes back and forth from green to desert approximately every 20,000 years.
They believe it has something to do with the Earth's tilt, and that's worth discussing.
So this whole area, because people are like, well, that's not Atlantis.
I'm like, well, first of all, if this whole, if the Western, or excuse me, the Sahara Desert was a lush green tropical paradise, which had the largest known freshwater lakes ever known to have existed, for example, Mega Lake Chad, which is, it's like three times more water surface than all of the North American Great Lakes combined.
It was when it existed, and that was at the time when the Sahara was green.
And it also had some of the largest known rivers that were known to have existed throughout the world.
I think they'd still be ranked 10th today or something like that.
So when you see this, people have to imagine that this area was once green and that...
Because one of the arguments I make is that the fact that that salt is on top of that dirt to me is indicative that the ocean flowed over here far more recently than what people think.
Well, keep in mind, the outer ring would have been water.
So that wouldn't have necessarily counted.
But some people say that this is too big according to Plato's description.
And let me just say that I'm like, well, hold on a second.
I don't think that we should consider that because of loss of translation that we should consider the measurements a key detail.
The question becomes, is it big enough to be a city with possibly millions of people?
Because the way it was described is that it was a city that was said to be busy all day, all night, rich in trade with languages spoken from all over.
So I'm like, okay, that would imply millions of people.
I mean, if a city is busy all day and all night, I think of large metropolitan areas like New York, Chicago, London, whatever.
And so if this was indeed an ancient or a site of an ancient civilization, well, then it would have – I mean, they're obviously not going to have skyscrapers.
So it would have to be an area big enough to sustain that many people, and the Rishat structure certainly does.
And so the idea would be that this would lead out to the ocean and that these circles would be where the water is and the ridges would be where the structures are, where the houses and the buildings are.
So I could show you- When did they think Atlantis was?
11,600 is allegedly when it was destroyed, which mirrors the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe.
So this is 600 BC, and Plato said that it happened 9,000 years earlier, so that would be 11,600 years ago, which coincides with the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe, which makes it so compelling.
To me, that is actual scientific evidence that indicates that Atlantis actually existed.
Well, we all, we definitely know that the Younger Dryas impact theory is extremely plausible.
There are, without a doubt, many, many impact points on Earth where they find this tritonite, this nuclear glass, which you can get either from a nuclear explosion or you get it from some sort of a meteor impact, large scale, all over the continent.
And we know that, all over the planet, I should say, we know that that happened.
This is real hardcore geological evidence.
So, if we know that there were structures before that, which we do now because of Gobekli Tepe and a few other places that they're reasonably sure were pre-11,000 years ago, 12,000 years ago, then we know that something was around back then that was very sophisticated.
How sophisticated, we don't know.
But then the other thing is like, how much would be left?
Have you ever seen those photographs of Detroit where you see houses that are being consumed by trees?
And there's some great ones in Russia as well where these photographers have taken to going into these abandoned cities and watching the nature, like watching trees and the greenery consume these houses.
But in Detroit, we're only talking about a couple decades.
You've got trees growing through the center of houses.
So the houses had holes in them.
Rain came in through the holes.
There's holes in the floor.
Something, whether it's a tree or something, grew up through the floorboards, burst through the floorboards.
See if you can find some of those images, Jamie, because they're really fascinating.
And so for people to just get an understanding of timescale, what we're looking at in these images...
In four years, I mean, if you came back four years later and you saw that the house was abandoned, like, right now, in 2009, it looks like a normal house.
Like, you drive by, oh, there's a house.
In 2013, you go, oh, the house is getting eaten by trees.
But there's some other ones from Detroit, Jamie, where you can see houses where the trees are actually growing up through the center of the house.
You know, Joe, people ask, they'll say, well, where's the rest of the evidence?
I'm like, all right, so first of all, metal rusts away.
Some people say, well, what about the plastic?
I'm like, who said they did plastic?
And by the way...
If they were to, what makes you think that they would choose petroleum for it because the hemp plant used to grow naturally throughout the world before it was eradicated, and you can make completely biodegradable hard plastic out of hemp plants.
Isn't it fascinating, though, when you think about the idea that these civilizations were super advanced but did it in an incredibly different way than the way we're doing it?
We think that the only way to be super advanced is to have heavy machinery, to have electronics, to have 5G wireless internet access and all these different things.
But what they did somehow was figure out a way how to cut these immense stones and move them from hundreds of miles away.
And they figured out how to do this where they left behind no evidence of the construction.
What's fascinating to me is how they're uneven, but yet they're perfectly fit into place.
I mean, what I mean by uneven is they're a bunch of different shapes.
For the people that are just listening, and if you go to the bright underscore insight Instagram page, there's plenty of images that Jimmy has up here, but these stones are much, much taller than him.
They're immense, and they're these weird shapes, but yet they fit into each other perfectly.
But what's crazy also is they're smooth in some places where they're like, it's almost like artistic, right?
Like the way they jumbled them all together, but like perfectly fit them.
It's hard to say because a lot of the structures in ancient Egypt, especially the Old Kingdom, they found them underneath where they were buried by sand.
And it's these huge polygonal walls, these terraces.
And all right, because I could see it on there.
I'm such a nerd, Joe.
Look at that doorway.
It's huge.
And that first picture we were showing you that I said is 125 tons, just to put it into perspective for people, that's more than three 737-800s, which is like a common, say, Southwest jet, heavier than three of those suckers, that one stone.
And they're not even entirely sure where it came from.
It's like, how did they move it?
See, I put this in there.
I'm into planes, Joe.
So for comparison, because I also made the comparison that it's 20,000 pounds heavier than a 767-400, which is a wide-body jetliner.
Now, that doesn't necessarily mean they didn't have something that's since gone away.
But I have to say something because I know exactly because there's so many people out there that will cite – there was a discovery a handful of years ago of this papyrus that had – it was essentially a receipt for limestone blocks that were brought up the Nile and delivered to Giza.
And many people have said – see, this is – there was such clickbait fraud headlines about it saying – papyrus describing how they built the pyramids.
That is the biggest clickbait nonsense because if you actually look at what was detailed on it, it doesn't say anything.
It doesn't use the word pyramid.
It doesn't say what they were used for.
All it says is horizon of Khufu.
And so what some people interpret that to mean is that the alleged pharaoh who built the Great Pyramid His name was Khufu.
And that horizon of Khufu essentially could indicate, oh, his resting place as in horizon being to the west where you go when you die.
That's all that thing says.
And it was already known, Joe, that some of the blocks were bought to Giza.
So I just want to point that out because I know that people are going to Google this stuff and be like...
But the thing that people need to realize is that There are hundreds and hundreds of other structures right around the Great Pyramid that are unbelievably smaller and the blocks are unbelievably smaller than the ones in the pyramid.
There's a lot of things that were built there over a few thousand years.
So it's like that...
It doesn't prove that it was for the pyramid, and I don't think it is.
But who knows?
Because I know how the skeptics are, so I want to be open-minded.
Zero, except there is one that was, I don't know if it was the Tomb of Renkara or whatever, I might be getting the name wrong, but it shows a 58-ton statue that they dragged on sleds, and it seems to depict them pouring water, but it's worth mentioning...
See if you can find the time-lapse videos of them moving buildings from the 1930s.
Not only did they move these buildings like several inches a day, and they completely rotated like 180 degrees where the foundation of the building lay, but they also kept the power and electricity and the gas on.
Yeah, the people that were in the building kept working.
So it's an eight-story, 11,000-ton Indiana Bell building rotation in 1930. So in 1930, first of all, you have to take into consideration the sophistication of the machinery was very different than we have today.
I mean, most of these buildings are made with bricks.
They had steel beams and structures.
I'm sure you've seen those construction photos of these guys that were eating lunch on a beam high above New York City, which is fucking wild.
But that video of this building, I mean, you think about it, this is in 1930, and, you know, obviously we can do much more today than we could then, but what they did, play it?
Yeah, I know.
But when you watch this happen, like, this is fucking wild, man.
Let me just say, I am less impressed by the moving of things because technically, if you use wedges, you could lift a whole house.
You just keep jamming them in there.
So although one random thought I'm having is that with that prior illustration of that 58-ton statue, there's other ones in Egypt called the Colossae of Memnon.
And those are 720 tons apiece, and they were carved estimated from out of one piece of stone, 1,000-ton stone and moved tremendous distances.
So I'd like to see that done, but I would think that that same method could be done to scale, and so I don't disagree with it.
What I am curious about, Joe… It's how they got those 120 or 130, 70-ton granite blocks more than 300 feet up into the Great Pyramid alleged King Chamber.
Because the Egyptians were said to be a Bronze Age culture, which means that's supposed to be the most sophisticated type of tooling that they had.
However, when modern tests have been done on testing it on granite and limestone, it's failed miserably.
And what I mean by that is that you can technically cut these things in half, but it takes a tremendous amount of time.
And if they were alleged, because each pyramid, and keep in mind, there's more like something 118 pyramids in Egypt.
A lot of people don't realize that.
They just think of the three big ones in Giza.
But all of these, if they were said to be tombs for the pharaohs, which I don't agree with, and for a variety of reasons, they were all said to be done in a chronological order and within a certain period of time.
And I'm like, when we were talking tens of millions of stone blocks in aggregate, because like the Great Pyramid is 2.3 million, you have the other couple that are a couple million a pop, and then does include all the other tens of millions of blocks that make up statues— I mean, I estimate, and this is just a ballpark, but it had to have been at least 50 million stones cut throughout ancient Egypt.
And I'm like, when you're doing it with methods that can barely get more than an inch an hour, and by that I'm talking a copper saw, and they pour in sand and water, and essentially the quartzite particles are what's cutting it.
But Joe, it's so slow, and not to mention the precision is nowhere near it.
And so it's like...
It's a mystery.
Because there's a few things people need to know is that nowhere in all the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs found throughout ancient Egypt, not one single one of them shows anything about them cutting stone, nor does it show anything depicting the construction of a pyramid.
Yeah, they invaded, but do you think, like, he was there?
Like, they probably had a bunch of barbarians at the helm, and these savages were bloodthirsty, and they were getting crazy and killing people and taking over Egypt.
They lit shit on fire.
They probably weren't even thinking, like...
That, hey, the actual construction methods that we could pass down from generation to generation are here.
It just seems to me that throughout war, people gather intelligence whenever they capture somebody or they kill them.
And it just seems to me that the Caesars would have possibly, maybe they did, maybe they didn't, maybe they burnt it all down, or maybe they kept that stuff.
I knew that there was an immense amount of artwork there, but when you actually go there and you see the billions and billions of dollars worth of art that was accumulated over who knows how many hundreds, if not thousands of years, it's pretty shocking.
It's like the Romans, you got to think about, because that all originates from the Romans.
I just want to remind everybody that when they took over a quarter of the world's population, all of Europe, they didn't show up like, hey, can we have your land?
Everyone that didn't speak their language was a barbarian, and they pillaged, raped, and just stole it.
I mean, you're talking about a time, you know, 1,000, 2,000 years ago.
Where you're dealing with the Roman Empire, you're dealing with the Germans and the barbarians and the Mongols and the Khans, and there's so much chaos and barbarism.
There's so much slaughter and Just hardcore, hand-to-hand combat.
Genghis Khan was lighting bodies on fire and launched them in catapults.
It was wild times.
So I think that maybe they were just trying to express a more delicate side of nature and mankind.
What is important is that they did have, in the center of one of their courtyards, They have an obelisk from Egypt that they had imported somehow or another, this fucking immense stone obelisk.
I took a photo of it.
I know it's on my phone somewhere, but I'm not going to find it right now.
Yeah, Cleopatra's Needle in New York City is one of the three similarly named Egyptian obelisks erected in Central Park west of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in Manhattan in January 22, 1881. Wow.
Well, yes, and I don't necessarily disagree with that, but here's what my issue is, that a lot of people don't realize that—so that was said to be the Old Kingdom, and there's been three kingdoms, Joe, and three what they call intermediate periods.
So, for example— 4,500 or so years ago, Great Pyramid, the Pyramids of Giza.
Within 1,000 years after that, there was two periods of time where there's approximately 345 years of lost history.
And they call them intermediate periods.
So it went from Old Kingdom, intermediate period, which was like 120-something years, to Middle Kingdom, and then another one of like 200-something years.
So within less than 1,000 years after the alleged times that they were built...
They – there's more than 300, almost 350 years of – because there was turmoil, by the way.
The intermittent periods were – there was revolts.
It was complete overthrow of the dynasties, civil war.
So I'm like, what is it that – the reoccurring theme that we see whenever there's a war?
You know, the, you know, history is written by the victor, so to speak.
I think it was Winston Churchill that said that.
And it's like in those periods of time when whoever took over and took the power and claimed that kingdom for themselves, which may have been inner.
It may have been like a civil war revolt or whatever, revolution of some kind.
That right there to me is indicative of lost history.
So my point that I'm getting at is that I don't know how much faith I put in that this alleged fourth dynasty was the ones that physically did it.
I'm saying that maybe it was somebody else and those people claimed it for themselves saying, I did this perhaps.
Because it's like the implications of 340 plus years of lost history immediately after that, that happened.
I think there's something to be said for that.
Because look at what ISIS did, Joe.
Like they went through Iraq.
And so I'm an Iraq war veteran.
And I had the privilege of seeing these Assyrian bulls.
I think they're Samarian because they found them completely buried in mud and dirt.
And so I'm thinking like it goes back pre-flood, so to speak.
And that these...
So ISIS went through and completely bulldozed them.
But that's not even – these aren't even the images.
All right, so there.
That's where I was.
That's the gate of Nergal.
The ancient city of Nineveh was said to be where Jonah had went after he escaped the whale from the biblical story.
And so that's the same gate that allegedly he had went.
And so, Jamie, if you could just bring up – Because there's a specific – a few articles that show that spot and these huge – are you familiar with the winged bulls?
This can't be the first time humans have invaded a place and destroyed stuff from the past because they didn't want to exist, maybe for religious reasons or for whatever.
And so when I hear about this lost history in Egypt immediately after the dynasty that was said to have built the pyramids, it makes me wonder what history was lost in that process by either claiming it for themselves, like, I did this, and then essentially that was passed down to something we are talking about today.
You know, because I've been obsessed with the ancient Middle East as well, like the ancient Sumerians and Mesopotamia and basically the cradle of civilization, of what we know of civilization.
To see them just destroy those things, like fucking Christ.
Most humans would look at those things and say, my God, what incredible structures, and this is a window into the past, and we could try to figure out what these people were like, and what life was like.
So this was the hardest thing for me, Joe, is that – so I volunteered to go to Iraq.
I was inspired by 9-11.
So I volunteered to go there because I thought I was liberating the Iraqi people.
And coming home and seeing that in the way that – so one of the worst things you could say that happened when ISIS invaded is that they killed off the Yazidi people, which were a completely peaceful people who lived essentially in northern Iraq, Kurdistan.
And these people were absolutely harmless.
And they came through and they killed the men and they took the women.
So along with killing or beating up those statues, they were also completely decimating the people themselves.
So, going back to your point when we were talking about the Romans and the savages and the, you know, the barbarians.
So, let's back up another 2,500 years before even them, which would be like Great Pyramid of Giza time.
So, isn't it fair to say that those people would have been capable of destroying and just doing their dirty work well, you know, despicable, barbaric savagery?
You know what I mean?
So, it makes me wonder, like, I think that there is...
Okay, so for example, when I was saying that there's no depictions of any kind of how they cut these stones, I think it's because someone destroyed that, honestly.
I don't think it's because they didn't record it somewhere.
I think it's just somewhere along the line, somebody beat the shit out of it.
But it doesn't show anything about cutting or anything.
And one of the things, Joe, is that there is different clear technology...
In the works of the Egyptians.
You have some that's incredibly crude and some of it truly megalithic and spectacular.
And what I argue, and others do as well, is that simply you're looking at two different things done by different people in different periods of time that had different capabilities.
But, correct me if I'm wrong, but they have carbon dated some of the material that's inside of the cracks of some of the stones, and that's what they come up with is 2500 BC. I think even Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and Robert Shock and all these other people that are arguing for an earlier date for some of the construction, they believe that, like the Great Pyramid of Giza, that that one is 2500 BC. They certainly do, and I'm not disagreeing.
It is possible, though, that the Egyptians had restored those casing stones because if you look at the Great Sphinx, it's already known – so the Great Sphinx is supposed to be 4,200 years old.
But something like 100 or 200 years after that is the evidence of the first restorations of adding more casing stones.
And so it's like, well, maybe that happened to the pyramid as well.
So technically, it doesn't prove that that is the birth of the Great Pyramid, but that the earliest evidence of when humans had did something to it since.
But let me just say, let me be clear.
I'm not suggesting, and I haven't said in a video that I think that the pyramids are 12,000 years old.
It just seems so dumb that they would fuck with that and try to make it smooth and pretty.
Part of what's beautiful about it.
Is the age of it.
But Robert Shaka, I've had on the podcast before, he was the first geologist to stick his neck out and say that the water erosion around the Temple of the Sphinx indicates thousands of years of rainfall.
And like you were saying, when it comes to the Sahara...
The last time there was significant rainfall in the Nile Valley was 9,000 years ago.
And then you have to look at the thousands of years of rainfall required to make these deep fissures in the stone where the softer areas are eroded and you have these deep vertical fissures that indicate that water coming down from the top and leaking through have created all this stuff.
And so his timeline is thousands of years before 9000 BC because it's required that much time to create this erosion.
That's very controversial around traditional, like the Egyptologists that want to follow the conventional timeline.
They come up with all sorts of alternative reasons for why these fissures exist, but One of the more fascinating things that Robert Schock did was he put masking tape over the areas that would clearly indicate where this was happening, and he brought it to a series of geologists, and he said, does this image represent, in your opinion, wind and sand erosion, or does it indicate water?
All of them said it indicated water.
All of them said it indicated rainfall.
And then when he pulled it aside and showed that this was actually the Sphinx, they were like, I'm not putting my fucking name on that.
Like, very few of them wanted to stick their neck.
More have since, since he's come forward.
There's been many geologists that have agreed with him.
But initially, people were very hesitant to stick their neck out.
Because in academia, which is really fascinating...
Challenging conventional ideas gets you in deep shit because even though we would like to believe that these archaeologists and scientists and historians only base their opinions on data, only base their opinions on what's in front of them, that's not true.
A lot of them have a long history of teaching things that eventually turn out to be incorrect and they are deeply embarrassed and they fight it tooth and claw.
They do everything they can to discredit any idea that they could be incorrect.
And it's fascinating to watch.
And one of them that was fascinating to watch was John Anthony West and Robert Shock had had this conversation about the Sphinx and about the erosion of the Sphinx with this conventional Egyptologist that was working with Zawi Hawass, who was the head of antiquities.
And when they did have this conversation, the way this guy was mocking them, the way this guy was saying, where's the evidence of this civilization from 12,000 years ago capable of doing this?
He was using your mocking voice, like using the voice that you use for your detractors.
And it wasn't a scientific conversation.
It wasn't a fact-based, objective analysis of all the evidence that's in front of you.
It was instead this guy trying to defend these decades of teaching.
He's been writing books and papers and teaching lectures about this stuff, and it turns out he's probably really wrong.
And he was fighting it with every ounce of his being.
Now, since that, Then the excavation of Gobekli Tepe took place, where they realized that this is undeniably at least 12,000 years old, because it was covered somewhat intentionally.
They think that intentionally it was covered up, that it was buried 12,000 years ago.
So that means, well, how long was this fucking thing built?
How long ago was this made?
If someone intentionally covered it up 12,000 years ago, how long was it around before they did that?
So this is that evidence that that guy was talking about.
This evidence of an advanced civilization...
Now we know for sure there's evidence of an advanced civilization.
We have the actual stone structures, we have the actual carbon dating, and not just a little bit of it.
We have massive amounts of it because the entire structure has been slowly excavated and it reveals this enormous A series of buildings and of stone columns and 3D carvings that are in it.
It's really wild, wild stuff.
And the idea that this was all done by unsophisticated hunters and gatherers who had time to build this in between, like, eating berries and trying to kill squirrels.
And, you know, there's a few things to say there, Joe.
So going back to Dr. Robert Schock.
So what I had heard is that when that was when he presented that water erosion evidence of the Sphinx, apparently he was at like a conference of nearly 200 geologists and everyone in the room was like, uh-huh.
Because he did a comparison essentially as like, would you agree that this limestone has water erosion?
And would you agree that this limestone has wind and sand erosion?
It's a resounding yes.
And it turns out he was showing you two different parts of the Sphinx.
The enclosure has the water erosion and the above the neck and the chest has the wind and sand.
And what's so wild about this, Joe, is that there's still so many people in the so-called, I call them the mainstream, that are denying this water erosion.
Like this is the thing.
So I don't consider myself an expert on this.
I'm somebody that can look at—I mean, I know more than maybe some, but I can look at information and think for myself on a variety of topics.
Just show me I want to hear both sides, and I can think.
I can use discernment.
And what's so interesting to some people who are trying to debunk Dr. Robert Schock's work— It's like, you know, because we have www.google.com, you can literally go and look for examples of limestone from around the world that have known water erosion and then go do the same for wind and sand erosion.
And then it's...
There for all who have eyes to see, the enclosure has significant water erosion.
I mean, this is literally...
You don't have to go to school for a bunch of years to get a doctorate in geology to at least wrap your head around that it is indeed water erosion.
And the implications of it are astounding because it means that if the Sphinx is supposed to be 4,200 years old, and yet the last time the Nile Delta region had significant rainfall was nearly double the age of that, that in itself...
I mean, I would consider it to be scientific evidence that it is older.
Geological evidence is the most tangible because you could actually see it.
It's right there.
And everything else, they're slowly uncovering history.
And as they're literally uncovering it, they're digging this stuff up.
And particularly in Egypt, what's really fascinating is that they find these completely different These building structures, like these construction methods, if you go back to the older buildings that are deeper under the ground, they have a very different style to them.
Yeah.
Like they use much larger stones and they use them like sitting on top of each other like as like these structures in these hallways and columns and it's like you clearly see the difference between the stones where they laid stones next to each other and this one where there are immense stones sitting on other immense stones.
There's a very specific style to them and it seems like the more sophisticated methods are the older methods because the stones were larger.
And the reality is that what we know, the ancients were more advanced than what we give them credit for.
And one thing I've seen as I've gone down this path about talking about potential lost technology is people need to realize like the word advanced is relative.
When you say that they were advanced, some people will jump to the conclusion like, oh, so you're suggesting they had internet and let's go back to that voice again.
And Wi-Fi and other things like advanced is relative.
It means that they had more capabilities than what we give them credit for.
Yeah, it's another thing I was about to say is that I'm losing my train of thought on that.
Oh, yeah, technology.
Technology can be anything.
A saddle on a horse is technology.
When people think technology, some people jump in like, well, does that mean they have lasers, machinery and stuff?
I'm like, no, it just means they had a capability that is since gone or we're just not aware of.
There was some sort of a documentary that was pointing to some aspect of it that said it seemed like they used some sort of a circular drilling tool to hollow out the center of this thing.
And what we're looking at is something that looks like it was a circular drill that was pulling out these cylinders from the granite and how they did that and how long it took.
See, this is an incomplete drilling, which is really fascinating because you can actually see that it probably took a long ass time for them to do this and you see like a partially done version of it.
But when you see these circular cuts like that right there, like what the fuck did they use?
So if you look at this, this is a modern tool that they're using to do the same or similar work.
And what it is, is a tool that's on this like tread or track and it rolls in and drills as it rolls in.
And they have a circle.
These are diamond tip machines that are hydraulic pressure And the Egyptologists claim, it says right here, the Egyptologists claim that ancient Egyptians cut granite using copper saws.
Copper saws, water, and sand.
It says fine, cutting granite, separating a stone block into two pieces.
We do not doubt this.
It's doable.
But to reach the level of precision found in, how do you say that word?
In order to cut granite today, we try to reach a pressure on the drilling head of 18 to 30 pounds per square inch, which is 226 to 380 pounds of pressure for a 4-inch diameter drill hole.
How can you apply such pressure by hand while keeping a mobile tool in order for it to actually perform the drilling?
This is the question.
So they're trying to figure out what the fuck these people use, but they use something.
Because if you look at that, so that's a good example.
William Matthew Flinders Petrie, during the late 19th century research, and he wrote that the level reached is astonishing in terms of the drilled holes.
So you can see the grooves, and the grooves help determine the power of the machines.
Here is what you were just talking about.
The space between the two grooves indicates how further the machine goes after each drilling revolution.
The space between grooves and Abusir are between 1 1 25th of an inch and 1 10th of an inch.
R-A-H-N. From the Rahn Granite Surface Plate Company in Dayton, Ohio.
Rahn indicated that in order to drill granite, they were using heads drilling at a revolution speed of 9,000 revolutions per minute.
900 revolutions per minute going one inch into the block every five minutes, every 300 seconds.
In other words, two one, two ten thousandths of an inch for every revolution.
The tools used by the Egyptians were therefore 180 for one tenth of an inch between the grooves to 450 for one twenty-fifths of an inch in between the grooves, times better performing than our 1983 modern technology.
Fuck.
That's crazy.
But look at these.
We're looking at these images, folks, of these holes that they cut into the granite, and you see these perfect grooves where whatever they were using, whatever kind of drill they were using, had left behind.
And the fact that these drills were far better than what we had in the 1980s when they wrote this.
It's worth mentioning that, see, this is another example where there's two different examples.
Because I have seen examples where there's some that is primitive and you can do it with like a piece of wood and you just spend it over time and you keep grinding away.
And then there's a difference between these ones with the striations.
And I'm like, because some people, you know, immediately like, no, they were capable of doing some drilling with primitive methods.
I'm like, I agree.
But then you have these ones that are spectacular.
And I would like to see these methods demonstrated.
See, that's a thing, Joe.
There's gonna be some people listening to this and be like, wow, I'm sure that there's got to be an explanation.
But Joe, I can show you videos of them demonstrating saw cutting techniques that are said to have been done by the Egyptians or alleged these primitive methods.
So this is the video of them using modern equipment to drill into it and saying that this stuff that they had in 1983, that the Egyptians had something that was 14 times better.
Well, it's so unbelievably slow, it's not feasible to be the explanation.
And let me just say, the only reason why these are the suggested methods, Joe, is because, like, well, the Egyptians were a Bronze Age culture, so they had to use Bronze, and that's the end of the story.
Yet there's not one single depiction, Joe.
All right, so that one, where it says, this is how you know ancients.
I think that they're doing measurements in order to put in hieroglyphs because we know they did.
There's actual evidence of them doing glyphs over prior work.
It's on some of the statues and so it quite literally could just be showing them carved stuff into it because I saw examples where you have this wonderful stone and then these crude glyphs It's like Sesame Street.
One of these things is not like the other.
Why would the glyphs look like shit in comparison to a wonderful block?
And that's not to say all the glyphs look like shit.
Some are spectacular and were done by the Egyptians.
They are the dynastic Egyptians.
Let me just clarify to anyone listening.
Dynastic Egyptians are the so-called ancient Egyptians we were all learned about in school.
My argument and others' argument is that there was people before them doing work.
And something worth mentioning, Joe, is that the people in Egypt...
They believed in what's called Kemet, the people, K-H-E-M-I-T, the people that existed before the Egyptians.
And, you know, when we hear these stories about the Great Pyramid being a tomb for the pharaoh, it's worth mentioning that even the locals didn't believe that.
And those theories weren't developed until the latter part of the 1800s, early 1900s, by people, explorers that came in from Germany, France, and England, and they are the ones.
So just to clarify, The saying that the pyramids were built to be tombs for the pharaohs, that that was their purpose, wasn't even developed until 150 years ago.
They have quite literally been invaded and their entire government has been overthrown and redone so many times that we're even aware of.
So it was already, I'm going to use the word corrupted, in the 1800s.
The British were going in and out of there.
And so it's like all this, I call it the mainstream, the stuff you read about in the textbooks, with most of the documentaries and all this stuff, which is pyramids built to be tombs.
This was all developed in modern times.
There's absolutely nothing from the ancient Egyptians in any type of glyph that depicts—well, there's only a couple examples of pyramids, but it's burial sites right next to them.
It's very primitive, and it's like, that's it.
There's nothing else showing anything about it.
There's nothing depicting that pharaohs or this is the place where they were burying kings.
And it's worth mentioning that when you go through inside these pyramids of Giza, let's say, which are the most impressive, although the Red Pyramid and that pyramid are unbelievably impressive— There's not one single glyph in any of them whatsoever.
There was never a mummy found in any Egyptian pyramid ever.
Now, that doesn't mean they weren't stolen and looted.
That's possible.
But quite literally, the only reason why we are told this stuff is because that was the theory developed by these men that went in there, you know, in the late 1800s and said, I believe these must have been for the pharaohs.
Right, but alright, so people that go to school for this learn history and learn archaeology, and the ones that are taught about Egyptology, that's what they're taught.
And not only that, there was a violent reaction to the Robert Shock podcast that I had by some Egyptologists that mocked him and reached out and said they wanted to come on and refute what he was saying.
It was interesting to watch their reaction to a geologist talking about erosion.
So one thing I explain to people is that there's something happening and has been happening in the scientific and academic community It's the same thing we see in politics, Joe.
It's not you were taught because I think when people have been taught things, they're willing to adjust.
But when they've spent decades as the expert explaining Very carefully how it happened and what we know and celebrating all these people that have done this great work and shown us, you know, how these ancients did these things.
Then it turns out that they're completely wrong.
Well, you've been fucking kids over with shitty education for decades.
That's the same reason why these morons broke down those ancient structures in Iraq.
When you look at the overall abundance of evidence when it comes to Egypt and you factor in these people like Graham Hancock and Buval and all these people that have looked at the history of the structures, It seems like there's multiple kingdoms and multiple eras and that they had existed for a substantial amount of time.
And when you say that these multiple kingdoms, so that's the story of Egypt.
They call it the old kingdom, which was followed by the intermediate period.
So intermediate period is essentially lost history.
That was an uprising.
It was complete overthrow of the government.
And you're talking the first intermediate was, like I said earlier, 126 years.
Then they go by a few more hundred years.
And then there was another 200 something year gap in that transition.
So we were talking old kingdom, intermediate period, middle kingdom, intermediate period, and then new kingdom.
So that's my point that I'm going back to is that how can we possibly say definitively or they talk so definitively about, say, the old kingdom.
And I'm like, when two other kingdoms came after who could have wiped out that history or simply because it's thousands of years later passed out incorrect information.
The amount of time between Cleopatra and the iPhone is shorter than the amount of time between Cleopatra and the established construction date of 2500 BC of the Great Pyramids.
My point is the last thing I'd be interested in is going back there and having sex with somebody.
I would want to go back and see what the fuck they were doing.
What was life like back then?
What was ancient Egypt like?
What was it really, truly like?
There's only speculation.
We really don't have any idea.
We don't have any idea what they're...
If you want to go back to as far as Robert Shock and Graham Hancock want to indicate, they seem to point to a time where at least the construction of the Temple of the Sphinx, we're talking 10, 11, 12,000 years ago, what the fuck was that like?
Sahara being green, and you'll see these articles.
So the point is that, okay, so when you say it'd be completely different, well, if the Sphinx is, say, at least double the age, and I'm sure it's older, Well, that's when it was green because let's not forget Egypt is in the Sahara Desert.
So when I see dates like 5,000 years and they do say some of these estimates that the entire Sahara went from green to desert and possibly within 100 years.
And I'm like, that is so close, Joe, to these dates of the Giza pyramids that makes me think that because of cataclysm and, let's say, real climate change on a level that we don't even can wrap our minds around.
I mean, think about it.
North Africa, or the Sahara, is much larger than the contiguous, or the 50 states, the United States.
So it's like, you know, it's such a huge area, and to think that something could have changed so dramatically, and what would have been erased with it, you know?
If you find, I was just looking for an article just to show viewers, like, I know there's Live Science as a number, and the Smithsonian, and National Geographic, and, oh, I was just, yeah, so this is, there you go.
So the Sahara was green at somewhere around 5,000 years ago, which is roughly around the same time as the proposed construction date of the Great Pyramid, which is 4,500 years ago, right?
And I'm like, it's not like they have an abundance.
I mean, don't quote me here, but they don't have an overwhelming substantial amount of evidence that they've repeatedly tested those dates on all this organic matter.
I think it's hard for us to imagine a thousand years.
I think we kind of get it.
Oh, a thousand is ten hundreds.
I think we kind of get it.
But I think it's one of those things that gets lost in the mind of how actually how long that is in terms of like if you are alive for a thousand years.
Like fucking what a dreary amount of time that is.
And then you think of four thousand five hundred years ago.
Or whatever it was, when they were actually building that thing, and maybe it's much, much longer.
I mean, maybe you're right, and maybe the construction, maybe rather the measurement is of a very small piece of material, and maybe they don't have the evidence that could show what it really was.
It says, when it comes to carbon dating, do you need organic material?
And Lehrer says, right.
There has been radiocarbon dating or carbon-14 dating done in Egypt, obviously, before we did our studies.
And it's been done on some material from Giza, for example, the great boat that was found just south of the Great Pyramid, which you think belongs to Khufu.
And that was radiocarbon dated coming in in about 2600 BC.
So let's keep going, because it says, Nova says, but how...
Do you carbon date the pyramids themselves and they're made out of stone and inorganic material?
And Lerner says, we had the idea some years back to radiocarbon date the pyramids directly.
As you say, you need organic material in order to do carbon-14 dating because all living creatures, every living thing takes in carbon-14 during its lifetime and stops taking in carbon-14 when it dies.
And then the carbon-14 starts breaking down at a regular rate.
So in effect, you're counting the carbon-14 in an organic specimen.
And by virtue of the rate of the disintegration of the carbon-14 atoms and the amount of carbon-14 in a sample, you can show how old it is.
So how do you date the pyramids?
Because they're made out of stone and mortar.
Well, in the 1980s, When I was crawling around on the pyramids, as I used to do and I still do, I noticed that contrary to what many guides tell people, even the stones of the Great Pyramid of Khufu are put together with great quantities of mortar.
We're looking, you see, at the core.
A pyramid is basically, most basically, two separate constructions.
It's an outer shell of very fine polished limestone with great accuracy in its joints, but most of that's missing.
And the other construction is in the inner core, which is filled in this shell.
Since most of the outer casing is missing, what you see now is the step-like structure of the core.
The core was made with a substantial slop factor, as my friend who's a mechanic likes to say about certain automobiles.
That is, they didn't join the stones very accurately.
You see the great spaces between the stones, and you can actually see where the men were up there And they didn't, you know, they may have like four or five, even six inches between two stones.
and they jammed down pebbles and cobbles and some broken stones and slop big quantities of gypsum mortar in there I noticed that in the inters in interstices I said it's a weird word interstices between the stones and this mortar was embedded organic material like charcoal probably from the fire they used to heat the gypsum in order to make the mortar
You have to heat raw gypsum or dehydrate it, and then you rehydrate in order to make the mortar, like with modern cement.
So it occurred to me that we could take the small samples, we could radiocarbon date them, not with conventional radiocarbon dating.
But recently there's been a development in carbon-14 dating where they use atomic accelerators to count the disintegration rate of the carbon-14 atoms atom by atom.
So you can date extraordinarily small samples.
So we set up a program to do that and it involved Us climbing all over the Old Kingdom pyramids, including the ones at Giza, taking as much in the way of organic samples as we could.
We weren't damaging the pyramids because there's tiny flecks.
It's a very strange experience to be crawling over a monument as big as Khufu's looking for a bit of charcoal that might be as big as a fingernail on your small finger.
We noted not only the samples of charcoal, sometimes there was reed.
And now and then, in some of the pyramids, we found little bits of wood.
But we saw in many places, even on the giant pyramids of Giza, the first pyramids, and the second pyramid, and the third one, fragments of tools, bits of pottery, that are clearly characteristic of the Old Kingdom, and it occurred to us, you know, That these are not just objects.
These, the pyramids themselves, were archaeological sites during the time they were being built.
If it took 20 years to build them, how the fuck did they build that in 20 years?
And now begin to think that Khufu may have reigned during double the length of the time that we traditionally assigned them.
People were building the Great Pyramid over three decades.
It was an occupied site as long as some campsites that hunters and gatherers occupied that archaeologists dig out in the desert.
Well, I'm thinking they're basing this on what was in the cracks of these pyramids that they could find.
It doesn't necessarily mean that that's how it was initially built.
First of all, the reason why there is these great gaps and that they can see these great gaps in the core is because they stole the structure on the outside of it.
The limestone, the smooth polished limestone was stolen.
They raided these motherfuckers throughout history, you know, like these people that destroy the stuff in Iraq.
The pyramids used to be covered in smooth limestone, but they jacked all that stuff, they stole it, and they used it to build Cairo.
Like they said, like, well, maybe because wood was more scarce out there that maybe this wood was already 500 years old when it was used for the construction of the pyramid, which I have doubts on that, Joe.
500-year-old piece of wood being used to construct the pyramid.
I don't know about that.
But, you know, who knows?
All I know is that it could possibly be indicative of that it was older.
And it's worth mentioning that some of the theories it's believed that maybe there was a large earthquake that originally knocked them all down and then they were looted from there.
Because when you're talking about restoration of a pyramid, I stumbled across this pyramid in Rome that they restored within the last couple of years that didn't look this clean.
The Great Pyramid at its height was equivalent to a 47-story building today.
And I compare that to, so I'm from Phoenix, and the Chase Tower is the tallest building in Arizona, and it's within a couple feet of the same height, like 481 feet original height for the Great Pyramid, almost the same as Chase Tower.
So when you're in a skyline in different places throughout the world, a 50-story building stands out, and this thing is 755 feet wide at its base.
I used to have a bit about the construction of the pyramids and it was basically that what happened was the dumb people outfucked the smart people and that's why like the people that were left behind had no idea how it was built and they just said, oh we built this!
But one of the things that I pointed out, I'm pretty sure my math is wonky, but it's close.
That the Great Pyramid of Giza has 2,300,000 stones.
The precision cut, again, some of them like the King's Chamber ones from 500 miles away.
If you cut in place 10 stones a day, it would take you 664 years to make that pyramid.
If you look at the distinct fissures that if they really were, if Robert Chalk is correct and these geologists are correct and that really is the result of thousands and thousands of years of water erosion, like, okay, how many thousand?
Is it 5?
Is it 10?
Is it 20?
Are you looking at 25,000 years of water erosion?
Is that a 35,000-year-old structure?
Is it possible?
And people will scoff at this.
But we were scoffing at 15,000 years ago, just a little while ago, just a few decades ago, until Gobekli Tepe came around, and you have clear, definitive evidence of something that's at least 12,000 years old.
That was nonsense just a few years ago.
In the 90s.
It was nonsense.
But now we know 100% that's a fact.
What the fuck were they doing 20 years prior to that?
And if this is really 35,000 years old or whatever it is, my God, how long has civilization been around?
And how many times has it been reset?
When you talk about this Younger Dryas impact theory, especially when you talk about it with Randall Carlson, it opens up a whole world of speculation.
Because Randall Carlson's evidence is spectacular, well-researched, and he has a deep, deep knowledge of both the timeline, And the erosion to the landscape that occurred in spectacular fashion because of massive floods.
When then you look at these legends like Noah's Ark or the Epic of Gilgamesh, and you hear about these stories of floods and of cataclysms, it's something that is a core part of almost every ancient Civilizations lore when they talk about the history of their culture.
They talk about these cataclysmic events that reshaped the society and that people emerged from the darkness and restarted the world, you know, like Noah and his children.
In the 50s, discussed something called the Adam and Eve story.
So anyone can go to CIA.gov, go to Freedom of Information Library, and you can look up what's called the Adam and Eve story written by a doctor named Chan Thomas back in the 50s.
And this details the destruction, repeated destruction of mankind, and it even has the year 11,500 in it.
And it's worth—or 11,550.
And keep in mind, this was written more than 50 years ago.
So it coincides with the 11,600 timeframe decades before we were talking about A Younger Dryas Possibility.
So, well, that's a great—that's part of the mystery, Joe.
Now, this—and let me also say this— They declassified.
This is like a handful of years ago.
They declassified.
So we have no understanding, though.
What's not declassified is why the CIA was discussing this book in some top-secret meeting, although every meeting in the CIA is technically top-secret.
Everything they do is top-secret.
So it details that destructions...
So it basically says that there's a micro nova that goes off in the Earth routinely.
But if you literally Google or you could bring it – well, it used to come up at the top of Google, but now you've got to go to DuckDuckGo or you can go to CIA.gov.
Some doctor named Chan Thomas, who's a mysterious figure in itself because it's hard to find a lot of info, although keep in mind this is back in the 50s, so it's hard to find info.
He published it, and then for unknown reasons, the Central Intelligence Agency discussed it in a meeting and classified that meeting, although let me just clarify, everything the CIA does is technically classified.
But then it was kept secret for decades, up until, I want to say it was 2012 or 2013, it was desanitized and released.
And so the big question for me is, why were they discussing it?
And the fact that there's certain details in it that are corroborated by scientific evidence that we've gathered in the last couple decades, say, for example, that 11,600-year younger Dryas.
And essentially, I mean, so to me, I'm like, this is...
It's highly fascinating.
What's that about?
I'd like to know why they were chatting about it.
I'd like to know what their conclusions were.
None of that's available to the public.
They declassified this with absolutely no context whatsoever.
They were looking for geoelectric or geoanomalies.
And so it was one of like 12 or 13 sites or 15 that were from around the world they studied.
So it wasn't just that one.
But Joe, what's so interesting about it is that Atlantis was said to have had special properties, like it had...
You know, springs of water that were warm and cold, and it was said to be special according to the Poseidon who had created it.
But what's interesting about this, Joe, is not just the fact they studied it, but the fact that the entire context of it is still classified to this day.
Now, let me be clear.
Nothing in that document says anything about ancient history or Atlantis, nothing like that.
But this site was studied.
We already discussed how unusual it is.
Neither one of us had heard about it until recently, and if there's one...
Comment that stuck out, that had thousands of comments on these videos, like, how have I never heard of this wrist shot structure before?
And if you were to, Jamie, if you were to bring up my video for May of this year, and there's a certain part of it that shows a screenshot of this part that's redacted, I want you to see this, Joe, because it's the entire context of the scientific study itself is classified today.
In California, the mountains shake like ferns in a breeze.
The mighty Pacific rears back and piles up into a mountain of water more than two miles high, then starts its race eastward.
With the force of a thousand armies, the wind attacks, ripping, shredding everything in its supersonic bombardment.
The unbelievable mountain of the Pacific seawater follows the wind eastward, burying Los Angeles and San Francisco, As if they were but grains of sand.
Well, they probably had some sort of inkling that some of the stories from ancient civilizations about cataclysmic disasters probably had some merit to them.
I was going to keep it to myself, but I keep pushing it off, so maybe the internet will help us do it.
Well, I've already looked into it briefly, and it was really complicated because it's hard.
It doesn't fall into any of their categories.
But I want to do a Freedom of Information Act request on the Great Pyramid of Giza.
I want to see if the CIA has ever, or any of the intelligence communities, or have ever even just...
Looked into it.
Because to me, I'm like, if that thing was more than just a tomb for the pharaohs, it seems to me that the true powers that be that have unlimited resources would study it and have a theory of it in themselves.
And so I want to see if they've ever looked into it at all.
I'm really interested in this whole Adam and Eve thing.
So they think that this happened and that civilization got brought down to its knees and brought to a small amount of people.
Well, they were kind of right, right?
Like, if you think about super volcanoes, like, those do happen.
And if they really did think that that was some sort of a volcano, that the Richard structure was some sort of a volcano that had erupted and cooled and erupted and cooled...
And if there was some sort of volcanic activity that was still going on under the surface, that would account for the idea that Atlantis was saying there was water that was cool and also water that was hot in the same area, much like you get in Yellowstone, right?
Like you get these cool lakes, but then you also get like Old Faithful, these geysers of hot water and these, I mean, there's these ponds that people have fallen into and never seen again because they get melted.
Now, some people will say like, well, it's a natural formation, so it can't be because as Plato describes it is that it was created by Poseidon.
I'm like, Poseidon can mean Earth.
It was created by God or just universe.
So to me, I'm like, in the fact of its very size that Atlantis was described at, I'm like, it would make far more sense that it was a geological formation because that's what we do today.
First of all, it's kind of bizarre because the animals have no fear of people because they've been sort of habitualized.
So, like, you go by, especially because they've released wolves into Yellowstone years ago, so the elk have decided it's a smart thing to go around where the people are all the time.
So if you go near, like, this visitor center, there's, like, there's a photo that I took.
I think I put it on Instagram.
It's me taking a selfie next to a soda machine, and behind me is a whole herd of elk just hanging out like, ah.
I might not have put it on Instagram.
I'm not sure if I did.
But these elk are like basically like town deer.
You ever been around town, like Colorado, if you go to like Evergreen, Colorado?
There's a mule deer that just wander through the town.
And some of them are fucking these massive like trophy mule deer.
Like if you were in the mountains and you were hunting, that would be a deer that you would be like stoked, a deer of a lifetime.
And then they're just wandering down Main Street in Evergreen because they know that people are not dangerous there.
That people basically go, oh, look at you!
And they give them food and they take pictures of them.
So all the animals in Yellowstone have been habitualized.
So when you walk around there, I mean, that's why people always get launched in the air by buffalo.
These fucking knuckleheads, they think that it's okay to get close to the bisons and they fucking...
This little nine-year-old girl got launched into the air.
I'm like, oh my god.
You let your nine-year-old get that close to a bison, you fucking idiot.
But my point is...
The rest of Yellowstone is absolutely fascinating because there's this weird smell that comes out of all these geological formations because they're basically...
What you're looking at is a caldera Volcano it's an immense volcano that's happening right now It's underneath the surface as all this volcanic activity and every six to eight hundred thousand years It erupts and when it does it's a continent killer.
I mean if it does erupt we are fucked This whole country is fucked.
Everybody on this country is essentially dead.
If you want to live, you better get to New Zealand and pronto.
Because everybody living here is a goner.
It blows, and when it blows, it kills everything.
And it happens every six to eight hundred thousand years.
And the last time it happened was six hundred thousand years ago.
Even if you survive the initial eruption, the ash that's going to cover thousands of miles away, feet deep, your car, everything, it's going to destroy the water.
It's going to turn into acid.
Even if you survive the initial eruption, you're still fucked.
Yeah, and then you live in nuclear winter because the sky's going to be covered in ash and no sunlight will get through, no food will grow.
Well, they believe that...
Oh, God, I keep forgetting where this happened.
But somewhere around 70,000 years ago, they believe that civilization got brought down to just a few thousand people by a supervolcano that happened in some island somewhere.
It's at the tip of my tongue, but I can't recall it.
But wherever this was, they're really pretty sure, and I think this is based on genetic evidence, that at some point in time, civilization got brought down to like 6,000 or 7,000 people.
I'm trying to find, digging through comments of people that have been looking into this from a couple years ago.
They said this could have just been like a dump and they could have scanned everything in the CIA because they were talking about the handwritten notes on certain pages and like why does this have a handwritten note on it?
Because someone just wrote it.
The guy who wrote the book wrote down his grocery list or something like that.
So I was there for 17 nights from November, December of 2020, which was awesome traveling at that period of time during the midst of all the lockdowns and everything else.
And then I was there for just under a week in September, October this year.
That Yusuf Awian, so it's called the Kemet School, and his, well, I should say ex-wife, runs it.
And so it's all based on the teaching of his father, which is, again, Akim Abdel Awian, who was in the Pyramid Code.
So it's based on the tribal knowledge that was passed down.
And by the way, it's worth mentioning that he had, Akim, When he was a kid, he had went in a tunnel from Saqqar, Egypt, to Giza, which is eight miles as the bird flies.
That's not supposed to exist.
There's no evidence of this, but he did it.
I mean, I have no reason to doubt him.
But it's already been known that there's a labyrinth within Egypt, that there's subterranean...
So this is the weird thing about Giza, my friend, is that there's something called the Osiris Shaft, which is located directly under the causeway between the Sphinx and the Second Pyramid.
And it goes about 100 feet underground.
It's carved out of the limestone bedrock.
It's the creepiest place I've ever been in my life.
So that's the first shaft, so it's three different shafts, and you go down, and here's where it gets, this is the crazy part, when you get to the third level, which is completely dark and freaky, There was a side tunnel.
Zahi Awas himself, there was a documentary.
It was either 96 or 99. He went down there.
It was a Fox documentary.
And he showed, he's standing in front of this tunnel that went sideways.
And he says, it's yet to be explored.
And I don't know what's down there.
I'm thinking, the hell you don't know what's down there?
All right, so here—this ties into, like, the same thing about this eight-mile tunnel connecting from Saqqara to Giza, which is—couldn't tell you where that is today, but we already know that they were doing shit underground.
When you look at the Osiris shaft, and you can look at Zahi Hawass—by the way, let me just say, I love you, Zahi.
I would love to work with the Egyptian Antiquities and go do some tours and bring light and bring tourism to Egypt.
Let me be clear, because this is a sensitive topic.
I'm not dissing Egypt in their knowledge or the people running the show.
They excavated the Sphinx, and there was always said to be tunnels under there, and they're there.
This is my most recent video, and there was no pictures ever released to the public, and some dude snuck down in there and took some photos.
You can't see much, but what you know is that there are things that have gone underground in Egypt that, for whatever reason, Joe, is just off-limits to the public.
Okay, only my best guess is anyone else's best guess, but some suggest that the Egyptians is one underground cataclysm and that people were doing things underground in the same way that we saw in Cappadocia of Turkey where there's those… Many underground cities, for example, Darren-QU, they go like 15 levels underground.
Now, if you look at Darren Cuyu and those underground cities, they claim, like modern academics say, oh, they probably built these to defend themselves against invaders.
So they have houses on the surface, and they look all normal, but then it's much larger as you go underground- They go hundreds of feet, and they were made to hold livestock and everything.
However, something tells me that this was involved in that maybe the ancients knew about the cataclysm of, you know, and that it was coming.
And so they prepped because I'm sorry, Joe, I know a little bit about war.
And you don't if someone's invading you, you don't have time to carve out miles and miles of bedrock tunnel that would take, you know, many years that would take.
There was a guy—God, I want to say it was in Italy—and he had a house, and in the house, he had dug down through the ground and developed this incredible chapel.
Built this immense structure and they came to his house and the authorities essentially said, listen, what are you doing?
Like, we know you're doing something.
Let us in and we're going to arrest you.
And he said, all right, I'll show you.
It's nothing nefarious.
This is what I did.
And he built this incredible art project that he had essentially had a very modest home.
And then as you go into this modest home and then you go down through this passageway, he had developed what is essentially this Immense, super intricate art project.
Yeah, these rich people are probably buying mummies because, I mean, who has the money for that?
And let me tell you something else that's real interesting because it kind of shows, like, first of all, wasn't just a couple years ago the UFC's total valuation was like $4 billion?
So if they're saying estimated between two and six billion, let's just go with four.
And I got to be careful because I'm convinced Big Pharma is running the whole earth at this point.
So the Purdue family and the Sackler family, you've heard of them?
They were the ones that did the OxyContin?
Why don't you look just how much money they've put into Egyptian antiquities and museums around the world, including starting – this is recently, a few months ago.
And this goes back years, but recently they're starting a program at – I forgot what – it may be Purdue University because that's by John Sackler or Purdue, John Purdue.
And anyways, so these people have an incredible interest in Egyptian antiquities, and that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I find that quite interesting that some of the richest, powerful people on Earth are really into this stuff.
I never actually looked at it, but I looked at it online.
We're thinking about moving to this one area of Beverly Hills, and they had this house that was for sale, and it had a dinosaur in it.
The house had a dinosaur.
There was a raptor.
Yeah, and you could buy the dinosaur, it was a million dollars more than the house, and then a million dollars more, you could get the dinosaur as well.
Scroll up, Jamie, for where it says the 15-year part.
It says, over the next 15 years, more volunteers flocked around the globe to join the growing community of temple builders, so as many people, working in four-hour shifts and funding their projects with small businesses to serve the local community.
But since no planning permission had been granted by the government, what is that word?
Damanhurians had to keep the growing temples under wraps.
See, that's what it is.
It was important to build them in secret or we would never be able to build them.
Italian law does not foresee this sort of underground building.
So, in 1991, they had completed most of the nine chambers.
Murals, stained glass windows, ornate statues, vibrant mosaics, and secret doors spread throughout the secret excavation.
So, look at what it looks like on the surface versus what it looks like underneath.
Fucking incredible, man.
I thought this guy did it by himself, but apparently he had a lot of people working on it.
And just type in Turkey underground cities, and you'll see that there's several known.
And again, so if this took a whole team a decade and a half to do...
I want people to go and look at these caves and think for yourself if you believe that it's feasible to consider that these were done to thwart invaders.
So in short notice, and I'm like, and how big and advanced they actually are, I'm like, the evidence is quite literally in front of us that humans were doing something special a long time ago.
Well, they have those bunkers today that these crazy preppers use.
My buddy Duncan and I did this television show a few years back, and Duncan went to visit these super preppers that had used these...
I think they were like...
I want to say it was some sort of a military base this guy had purchased.
God, I wish I could remember what the fuck it was.
Was it a silo?
Something along those lines.
But it had these enormous garage doors where you pull the cars in.
They had trailers where you pull your trailer in.
And then inside, they were essentially planning on having a sustainable environment that could keep people alive in case of a nuclear disaster or some sort of bioweapon or some shit.
This is outdated info, but this is before Trump had taken office.
office.
And at that time, the last five Department of Homeland Security heads, all five of them said that the greatest threat facing the United States is a grid down scenario, because there's a few things that could do it.
It could be a hacking, it could be a solar event.
And that would be absolutely catastrophic.
Because if the power goes down for months on end, and you got to keep in mind that the United States is connected by only three grids, East, West and Texas.
And there and and so if it went down, like they don't just have these, these, these, the, what do you call them?
The, the The electrical, whatever the hell you call them, but they're huge and they're made to order.
They're not just lined up in shelves.
What do they call it?
The transformers.
So if there was something like that that happened, it's potential or possible that you could have a grid-down scenario in some areas or the whole thing for months on end.
And you have to think about that.
If that happens, the city water pumps will go down once the generators run out of their fuel.
Fuel tanks won't work.
Like, we're talking—that would be so apocalyptic in itself.
And if that was to happen, it would be the haves and the have-nots, those who have guns and those that don't, or those that prepped, those that didn't.
And that's possible.
And I wouldn't even be surprised.
I want to get too crazy.
But like, I mean, in our lifetimes, it's whether it's a solar flare, like another Carrington event or or some terrible entity that wants to bring our shit down.
And if they were successful, it would in a short period of time, days like there's this saying that humanity or society is only three or excuse me, nine meals away from chaos, which means, you know, three days.
And so if you have a situation where the grid went down for even a couple of weeks, Joe, it would be it would be shit, especially.
I watched this documentary where they first started observing hypernovas in the cosmos and they thought that it was wars going on with civilizations in space because they were happening so frequently.
Like they were observed because you know obviously there's hundreds of billions of galaxies.
And so they were looking out in these hundreds of billions of galaxies and they were detecting these gamma radiation bursts.
And they were like, oh my god, they're going to war.
They're going to war out there in space.
And then they realized, no, these are hypernovas.
And that these novas essentially just wipe out entire solar systems and more.
Yeah, like every star that you see, when you go on a crazy clear night and you're looking at the Milky Way, you're looking at things from millions of years ago.
Yeah, when they're observing the cosmos, like we were talking about the Big Bang earlier, when they're observing 13 plus billion years ago, they're essentially looking into the past at what happened 13 plus billions of years ago.
When they see these stellar nurseries and they're using these spectacular telescopes to look deep, deep, deep into space, they're looking at the past.
So that's like an idea for a time machine is that if there was some way to travel vastly far distances, let's say like a wormhole of some kind, and then you stopped and turned around and looked at Earth and say you had the abilities for enhanced magnification of some kind, wouldn't you technically be watching the past then?
If you could get ahead of it, I'm saying, if you get ahead of the speed of light somehow and then turn around and look and then you'd be seeing Earth from, say, a thousand years ago or something.
You would have to, yeah, you would have to figure out a way to get instantaneously so far away that the light that comes from Earth, but if you could see that good, wouldn't be the light anymore.
Right?
Would it?
I mean, I don't know.
It's not my world.
But if I could go back in time and see any era, I think Egypt during its prime would be the era that I would look into.
Because if you look at all of what we know about ancient civilization, whatever's left, you know, whatever's intriguing, all the amazing sites that archaeologists have explored, that's the one that's the most what-the-fuck.
Bra, titless, or whatever, and that really upset them.
But you can see a picture, I haven't seen the porno, but you see this couple, it's like a snapshot of literally these two naked people on top of the Great Pyramid in the night sky.
They think that European settlers came and the depictions that the Europeans had of how spectacular the Mayan civilization was back then and how these guys had these gold headdresses and these incredibly sophisticated cities and they brought in smallpox and just killed everybody.
But what was really amazing about the sophistication of the settlements in Mexico was that they had these immense stone structures.
By the way, they did it to the Amazonians, too, the people that lived in the Amazon.
You know, that was another really interesting conversation that I had with Graham Hancock, where he was talking about how through the use of LiDAR, they've detected all these grids.
You know, that was the basis of that movie, The Lost City of Z, you know, that these European explorers had gone through the Amazon and come back with these amazing stories of these incredibly sophisticated civilizations.
And then when people returned 50 years later, there was no such civilization.
There was no evidence whatsoever because the jungle had swallowed up all these buildings.
And until recently, they thought it was just folklore and bullshit until they started using LIDAR.
And this light-emitting radar thing that LIDAR is, I'm not exactly sure how it works, but through use of LIDAR, which is non-invasive, so it doesn't destroy anything, but it gives them a graph or an image of what is going on.
And through that, they saw all these grids that indicated streets and irrigation and all this.
So European travelers literally were genocidal by accident.
They fucking killed everybody.
I mean, as much as we like to talk about the genocide that European explorers enacted on Native Americans, which they absolutely did.
It's crazy that a country where they're getting along with this disease, I mean, they existed with it, they survived, and they came over on boats and gave it to people that didn't have immunity to it, and it just burned right through the entire population.
You know, five, six hundred years ago, they were around.
Like during Cabeza de Vaca, he details in his journeys across North America, he details all of his trips through the, like, all these various Spanish explorers detail the Mayan civilizations.
Going back to that LIDAR study, so one of the – this is something that I just thought of is that it's so interesting that – so that area that people had already – that they found through the use of LIDAR had already been previously surveyed on foot and one of the – and they didn't see anything, including a seven-story tall building that was consumed by trees and lush vegetation.
And it had, like I said, had already been surveyed on foot.
So that's how much the Earth consumes things.
And so now they're using LIDAR from space and they're finding shit, shit, ancient stuff all over the Sahara Desert.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, if this place was green 5,000 plus years ago and had the largest freshwater lakes and a huge network of rivers, people of course would have been living there.
And so now they're finding random stuff all over.
I'm like, I've said it before.
I think the Sahara Desert is the ancient jackpot.
Like, under that sand, they're going to find things and discoveries in our lifetime that I think are going to be probably amazing.
Because I don't think people would have been there.
People need to be including these things in the topic of climate change and man-made climate change and all that because I'm like, you know, if the Earth is going through these cycles that are – I mean, if we're – God, I mean, if we're looking at like something like 50,000 years ago, the Earth's temperature was something like 15 degrees Fahrenheit hotter.
It's been identified through the core ice samples of Antarctica.
And it's like, well, if they want to say that, you know, two, three degrees Fahrenheit would be enough to screw over our civilization and – Well, if we're talking 15 plus degrees naturally, I want to know more about that and why it's not being included in the conversation.
Well, you know, when Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson in particular, when he discusses this, one of the things that he says, says global warming is certainly a threat.
He goes, but you know what a real threat is?
Global cooling.
He was like, global cooling is way worse.
He's like, global warming essentially makes more plant life.
That's the thing that's going on where we talk about increased CO2 in the environment.
There's more green on this earth today than there's ever been.
It's weird.
You think of, wow, we must be decimating the rainforest and we're killing all the...
Well, you're definitely fucking up the rainforest, for sure.
However, there's a lot of green and it's more of it because green lives on carbon dioxide, which is kind of crazy.
And this was, I mean, this is, I was literally depressed and looking for answers in my life and guidance.
And I was doing it from a spiritual standpoint.
Because I felt like at that time I could benefit from my ayahuasca journey.
But I wasn't available to do it.
So, fast forward a couple years later to last December 2020. I'm in Egypt with Yosef Awian, the son of Akeem Abdel.
And I was asking him, because I was saying earlier that I think that the pyramids were not built to be tombs.
I think there was something functional, but I'm not exactly sure what.
Could it be something for generating power?
Could it be something else?
I don't know, but when I've walked through the internal structure and layout, it's so bizarre, Joe.
Nothing about it makes sense for a tomb.
It's not meant for people to be through.
It is utterly weird.
So getting to the point is, Yosef, I asked him, I'm like, what do you think?
Because he doesn't think it was built to be a tomb for anyone.
And I said, what do you think it is?
And he said his father told him...
It's us.
And I instantly, the first thing I thought of was like, because I could never explain, I didn't understand why I was seeing in my little DMT trip that...
It was a pyramid in a body and it was going like this.
And the pyramid of all the colors was just in the middle of the body.
And then when I go to Egypt, he says, it's us.
What does he mean by us?
It's not just the Bible.
It's the Sumerians.
It's even Native Americans.
There's different cultures around the world that had said the same thing.
Now, that doesn't mean that that's true.
But what if?
Because some people think that – well, you've got to keep in mind that the Nile River was once eight miles closer to the pyramids and went right up to the steps.
So, for example, when you brought up earlier with that boat that was found literally right next to the Great Pyramid, the water went up to the steps virtually.
It was right there.
So some people argue that water was moved through the pyramid and had something to do with oxygen.
These are just wild ideas, by the way.
But what if it was something for DNA restoration?
Because if it was possible for people to live to have been thousands of years old, which I have no idea, but if that happened, let's say, could – because it's like if these pyramids were not tombs, then what were they?
If the water went right up next to them, that – Makes me think maybe it had something to do with generating power.
And I know that sounds crazy to some people if we're talking about a stack of bricks and stones.
Like, what are you talking about?
But I encourage people to look at the internal structure and layout of the pyramid.
You can just Google image it and look at the map.
And when you walk through it, Joe, it's utterly bizarre.
It's not made to be walked through.
You got to keep in mind you're seeing it as it is today with these boards, these planks, just so you can walk through it.
Like you go through this 300 foot long shaft that's like 3x3 and then when you get to the Grand Gallery, so called Grand Gallery, it's the same thing.
So there's a gentleman named Christopher Dunn that we saw.
He was in one of the articles that was brought up earlier.
He's the one that developed.
He wrote a book about it, and it's called The Giza Power Plant.
And some people have theorized it had to do with separating hydrogen from the water or something.
These are wild ideas.
I can't speak to it much because it's hard for me, my brain, to wrap around.
I'm like, I don't know what they're talking about other than that.
But I can look at it and think that this thing...
It's unbelievably different than any type of Egyptian burial site.
For example, the Valley of the Kings is obviously a known place of burial, and it's...
Wall to ceiling covered all over in glyphs.
Paintings, beautiful stuff.
All the mastabas around the pyramids, same thing.
Every known burial site for anything in the Egyptians is covered in wall art and it looks like a burial site.
Whereas there's not one single glyph in any of the pyramids whatsoever other than...
The Pyramid of Unas, which has some beautiful paintings, but this is a thing people don't mention.
It's over plaster.
It wasn't on the stone.
You see the stone, which is spectacular, and there's plaster over it, and it looks, honestly, and I don't mean any disrespect, it just doesn't look good at all compared to the structure itself.
So, I mean, it's worth mentioning and I want more people need to explore this.
Like, there's almost zero evidence to even suggest that it was a pyramid.
The reason why people think it is today is because we were taught it in school at a young impressionable age and we weren't even explained any of the details.
Never mind that there was no mummies found.
That could be explainable by looting.
But if you bring up and you see the structure itself, it is so bizarre.
So bizarre in the way the tunnels were created and these shafts that go up and down and it doesn't look like something that was designed for people to move through.
It's one of the funnest mysteries, and this is the one thing I've seen, like, because, like, when I was talking earlier at the beginning of this podcast, like, what topics do I want to talk about?
These are the ones that make me most happy, and I remember thinking, like, it's positive.
I'm not, you know, debating abortion here.
I'm debating the pyramids, and it's so funny, Joe, because it's quite a sensitive topic, whether it's Atlantis or the pyramids.
Even suggesting something alternative comes with so much backlash.
It's quite interesting, but it's supposed to be fun.
It's interesting, and I just can't help but think about that DMT experience that was showing me that, because I'm like, when he said It's us, and I don't know what that means.
I'm like, I think there's something there, because what I saw...
I don't know.
It makes me, it really made me wonder because I didn't think much about it for the couple years after that.
I told my brother about it and he's like, well, that's interesting.
And I kind of like, it's not that I forgot about it, but I was like, I don't know.
I guess it's just my brain that developed some, it was just imagination.
I just want to tell to anyone out there, get off the couch.
It's surreal to me that a handful of years ago, Joe, I was on the couch Unhappy in life.
And in watching Joe Rogan podcast, and now here I am sitting across from you, and all I did was decide, and it wasn't easy, but I made choices and changes in my life, and next thing you know, I find myself traveling to these sites, being on your podcast and other things, and I just want to tell people, if there's only one message, is that Because in the short term, people are going to have to get creative to make money in the near future, I suspect.
People more than ever are unhappy with the direction of their lives, corporate work, and everything else.