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Oct. 15, 2021 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1720 - Tony Hinchcliffe & Brian Redban
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Oh, hello boys.
unidentified
Hey.
Hello.
This is going to be one of those shows.
joe rogan
How's it sound with that on?
unidentified
It sounds perfectly normal.
joe rogan
Today, how many times have you heard, I've heard videos on YouTube where this guy was reviewing watches and he was wearing a mask while he was reviewing the video so you could hear the muffled thing.
I'm like, this is going to be, we're going to look back on these days.
With the masks and all the people that were like taking them off and then putting them back on to take photos.
Like all the times that politicians have been busted doing that.
And we're gonna say this is like a specially stupid time.
tony hinchcliffe
So stupid.
joe rogan
Especially stupid.
Not saying that it's stupid to wear a mask.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying the virtue signaling of it.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
The theater of it all.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
People that put on the mask before, like, giving a speech.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they have it off and they're hanging out backstage and then there's a video of them putting it on and getting in front of everybody and then taking it off in front of everybody to give the speech.
It's just theater.
When Rand Paul was in front of Fauci and he said, you're vaccinated, why are you wearing this mask?
It's theater.
He was right.
It's a theater.
It's to let everybody know you're a good person.
I'm a good person.
Look at my mask.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
brian redban
I talked to somebody on the phone that had a mask on.
I was like, where are you?
And they're like, in my hotel room.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing calling me with a mask on?
Are you by yourself?
joe rogan
Were you talking to Ian Edwards?
Ian double masks backstage with us.
We're hanging out backstage.
He's double masked.
I'm like, hey bro, we've all been tested.
We're all good.
He's just like, I'm more comfortable with this thing on.
tony hinchcliffe
I don't get it.
joe rogan
It's California.
They got those people scared.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would like to see if there was a chart of how worried people are about the pandemic based on where they live.
unidentified
If there's pockets of worry.
tony hinchcliffe
I think there's no doubt about that, right?
Like, I mean, like, the people that I see in LA on Twitter and stuff, and just when we visited there, like, it's a whole different world.
I saw more masks in a few hours than I saw in a month here in Texas.
joe rogan
It's fucking weird.
It's not just the mask thing.
It's like the mask outside by yourself.
The mask in your car.
It's like, what is...
tony hinchcliffe
I saw people in New York City bicycling wearing a mask.
joe rogan
That can be good for you.
Right?
That's like...
Remember those things that people were wearing before?
They were wearing like the altitude...
It was like an altitude mask.
What the fuck was it called?
jamie vernon
It was like an oxygen trainer.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
Simulate high altitude.
What was it called?
There's multiple of them.
I don't know if there's just one, but yeah.
joe rogan
People have gone over whether or not it actually mimics altitude training, and it doesn't.
But one thing that actually does work is those breath trainers.
There's a thing, it's like lifting weights with your lungs.
Have you ever tried those?
Do you know what it is?
tony hinchcliffe
No.
joe rogan
You blow into them, and there's one of them that actually works.
I haven't set up the app yet.
It works on an app and so like the app could read exactly like how much pressure you're blowing through that so you're actually like physically working out your lungs like a muscle just blowing into this thing and breathing through it and breathe it out of it.
It's like it forces your lungs to work harder.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I like cigarettes.
brian redban
I just use a belt.
Different notches.
joe rogan
When was the last time someone died jerking off like that?
It's been a while.
It's like it was a slew of famous people for a while.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I think it happens more than we think, because imagine if you found someone like that, you wouldn't want to put that out there.
You'd be like, okay, we'll keep that a secret.
We'll just say that they committed suicide, right?
joe rogan
Or, you really don't like someone, and so that's how you kill them.
tony hinchcliffe
Ooh.
joe rogan
That's the room that I heard about David Carradine.
tony hinchcliffe
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's the guy from Kung Fu.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kill Bill.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
It's Bill.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Him.
It was the NSX guy.
Remember?
The singer?
The lead singer?
tony hinchcliffe
No, I didn't know about that.
joe rogan
This is what you need.
This is what you need.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh.
joe rogan
Remember that guy?
tony hinchcliffe
Sort of, kind of, yeah.
joe rogan
Cool dancer.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Yeah, he died that way.
tony hinchcliffe
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, the fear of...
It seems like it'd be fun.
It seems like everybody says good things about choking yourself while masturbating, but the fear of being found that way or dying that way is enough to keep me from ever trying.
joe rogan
I would guesstimate that zero guys who do jujitsu have done that.
Because you don't want to get choked, ever.
So the idea of, like, being choked is like, you immediately are not...
You probably lose your heart on, first of all.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because, like, someone's choking me.
Like, you have to be...
Someone has probably never been choked by a person before.
Because if you did jujitsu, you felt that belt in your neck, you would try to tuck your chin, you'd try to get out of that.
You wouldn't be like...
tony hinchcliffe
Imagine if someone got into that and then they're good at jujitsu though and they're at the championship, they start getting choked and they get hard as a rock all of a sudden in front of the audience.
joe rogan
Right, it bursts right out of their cup.
unidentified
Or it pushes the cup out so it looks preposterous.
tony hinchcliffe
What if he tapped out with his hard penis?
Okay.
joe rogan
No.
There's rules.
You can use your feet to tap out sometimes.
Oh, wow.
Like if you're trapped in a situation where you literally can't move your arms, and that can happen.
Sometimes guys will catch a mounted guillotine, and in a mounted guillotine, if they're really good, like Brian Ortega-type good, they can get their arms, or their legs rather, around your arms and pin them to your side like this while they're getting you in the guillotine.
So you literally can't even defend.
If they catch it, perfect.
And then you see guys flopping and tapping with their feet.
There's a couple positions like that where you literally can't move your arms and guys will tap with their feet and yell out tap.
They just try to yell out tap.
tony hinchcliffe
I once got knocked out in a high school wrestling match.
Guy got double chicken wings.
You know what I'm talking about?
And then he walked over, walked around the head, and then I bridged up when he was like north-south, and he got me in head scissors and locked the legs in figure four position, because that's the only leg lock you're allowed to have in Ohio high school wrestling, at least back then.
joe rogan
So you can, wait a minute, you can lock legs around a guy's head?
tony hinchcliffe
Yep.
Yep.
As long as it locks behind your knee.
You can't have it like around your calf or your ankle.
You have to move it all the way up to...
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you do that, then it becomes a triangle.
tony hinchcliffe
Essentially it is.
joe rogan
So do they just not know?
tony hinchcliffe
They're not using it for the choke effect.
They're using it to get your shoulders against the mat, though, to eliminate your possibility of bridging on your neck.
joe rogan
But wouldn't the best way to get a guy to put his shoulders on the mat, to put him to sleep?
unidentified
Yeah, that works too.
joe rogan
That thing can't be right.
You can't be allowed to actually get a triangle on somebody.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, again, they're not really using it for the choke, so what that guy did was when I bridged up even after he had that, he just straightened up like that.
joe rogan
It squeezed your neck.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, but I ended up with a concussion from that, actually.
joe rogan
How'd you get a concussion from that?
tony hinchcliffe
Because he pulled back hard, like super strong, to bust my bridge down, and it clanked my head right off the mat, like doof, with all of his body weight on top of it.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one of the scarier things about when you see guys get knocked out and their head bounces off the mat.
You're like, yikes.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
I woke up throwing up Rice Krispie treats because I scarfed those down after weigh-ins.
joe rogan
Jesus.
tony hinchcliffe
High school wrestling is the worst system.
You just weigh in a couple hours before the match and then you scarf down a bunch of food because you haven't eaten for days.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not good.
It's not good.
And it doesn't totally make sense either.
Wouldn't it be better if everybody just weighed what they weighed?
The most important thing is who's the better wrestler, not who's the best at starving themselves and dieting.
The thing about weight classes that have always driven me crazy in the UFC and wrestling as well, but with wrestling you're not taking into account as much head trauma because the head trauma is more accidental or from throws and stuff like that.
In MMA, you're dehydrating yourself.
Like, literally to the point of being incapacitated.
Like, some of these guys are shuffling because they can't lift their leg up to walk normal.
And then they go and fight.
Travis Luter, who fought Anderson Silva for the title, he didn't make weight.
And he tried.
I was there.
He did not quit.
He was dying.
Like, I've never seen a guy closer to death than Travis Luter when he was about to weigh in for Anderson Silva.
He was shuffling.
That's where I'm getting to talk about shuffling.
His lips were all completely chapped and, like, you know, like, just sucked dry.
His whole face was sucked dry.
His cheeks were sucked dry.
Like, the dude was dying.
He was literally pulling all the water out of his body trying to make weight and he didn't quite make it.
And then 24 hours later, he fights a prime-time Anderson Silva.
When Anderson was at his peak of his powers, he actually got caught in a triangle himself.
He got caught in a triangle and elbowed by Anderson, and he had to tap out.
unidentified
Yikes.
joe rogan
But dude, when you lose that much weight, your brain dries out.
Like everything dries out.
They say it takes longer.
I don't know if this is true.
But I think it's longer to dehydrate your brain takes longer than it takes to just rehydrate your whole body.
I think like your brain, it takes like an extra X amount of hours to completely rehydrate your brain.
Which is super dangerous if you're getting hit in the head.
brian redban
How do you rehydrate your brain?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brian redban
You just put a shot in it or IV in your head?
joe rogan
I think it's like the fluids, they automatically rise.
What am I, doctor?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm guessing.
This is all guesswork.
The fluids probably rise.
tony hinchcliffe
I always get my advice from doctors in spacesuits.
joe rogan
Especially when they're this high.
Fluids probably rise in proportion to the fluids in your whole body.
So if you're fully hydrated, I would imagine your head is fully hydrated.
But when you're really dehydrated, what they're saying is that it takes more time to rehydrate the brain.
I'm not sure if that's true, but it makes sense.
Because you see guys who've been really dried out from weight cuts, sometimes they get knocked out and you don't even understand why that punch knocked them out.
They're usually really durable.
brian redban
Maybe when you're dehydrated, your hydration level starts at the top of your head and goes down like a glass of water.
joe rogan
Right, like a gas tank.
brian redban
What if that's true, though?
joe rogan
I mean, it kind of might be.
Just think about how dumb you feel when you're dehydrated.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if you had to take a math test and you were dehydrated?
Oh my god.
When I'm dehydrated, I'm working at 40% capacity.
brian redban
And if you took the math test hanging upside down, you would actually do better?
Because the water would go from your feet to your head?
joe rogan
They should do some kind of a thing like that for classes.
You know how they have like in the Olympics they have like decathlons and shit and the biathlon.
You do a bunch of things.
You run, you shoot a gun, you go surfing.
You know they have a few of those?
They should do that with academics.
Like they should have like a 10k mountain race and then you have to solve a puzzle.
Then you have to figure out an equation.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, you're saying combined physical and mental stuff.
jamie vernon
That's the main part of my favorite show.
Me and Annie Letterman were talking about.
joe rogan
What's it called?
jamie vernon
The Challenge on MTV. Oh, they do that?
The final event where they go for like a million dollars.
They have to run basically a marathon and halfway through they've got to stop and answer puzzles and fucking figure shit out.
And half the reason some people lose is because they can't do puzzles when they're stressed out.
Right.
joe rogan
Oh, there you go.
jamie vernon
That's just that event.
It's just one TV show, but...
joe rogan
Did we talk about that aspect of it?
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Not at all.
That's a great idea.
They nailed it.
I really think that should be like, you know how, like, there's certain intelligence tests that we all respect, right?
Like the IQ. Wouldn't it be great if you got who can keep their shit together under pressure test?
brian redban
Like Squid Games.
joe rogan
I've done episode two.
I'm on episode three.
brian redban
It's great.
joe rogan
It's very good.
Once you get over the dubbing, some people are hardcore.
They don't want you to do the dubbing one.
They want you to do the subtitles.
brian redban
I did the Korean style.
joe rogan
Did you?
brian redban
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Well, yeah.
You have to do the subtitles.
You do the dub?
joe rogan
The dub.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, no, dude.
That's unacceptable.
joe rogan
Bro, I got an 11-year-old.
I'm watching it with her.
She doesn't want to read.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh.
Okay.
That makes sense.
brian redban
That's a rough movie to watch.
unidentified
I know!
joe rogan
I was like, you sure you can handle this?
All of her friends were telling her about it.
So all these other 11-year-olds are watching Squid Games.
I'm like, Jesus Christ.
brian redban
I played it in VR the other day.
That was a lot of fun.
joe rogan
So I have two...
Did you really?
brian redban
Yeah, they have the woman, the Asian statue, and you're running and stopping and running.
tony hinchcliffe
How do you run?
joe rogan
There's two schools of thought.
There's two schools of thought with that.
One, all of her friends are doing it.
The argument, well, they're doing it, I should be able to do it too.
That's not a good argument, right?
But if they're all talking about these things at this age, what is the problem?
Is it the problem that they're not ready for it?
Is it the problem that it's too violent?
Is it going to condition them?
What doesn't condition me?
Am I sure it's going to condition them?
I mean, what is it?
If all these kids are watching these things today, are you saving your kid if they don't watch, like, violent anime?
Like, she likes watching these crazy anime.
Like, are you saving your kid if you say, no, you can't watch that because people get cut?
I don't know.
I used to watch a lot of fucked up shit when I was 11. Yeah.
brian redban
When I was young, I used to watch Fist of the North Star.
I used to read the comics, and that was just heads blowing off bodies.
joe rogan
And I was like 13, 12. Yeah, I was always into those really well-illustrated comic books, like creepy and eerie.
A lot of them, people would get torn apart and cut up with saws and shit.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
I mean, pro wrestling.
They had The Undertaker burying human beings.
Like, I learned about death from that.
joe rogan
I don't think that's the same thing, and I can't believe you just brought that up.
tony hinchcliffe
What are you talking about?
brian redban
Well, we had, we had, what's the...
tony hinchcliffe
Pro wrestling back then was watched by everybody's, like, a bunch of people.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not the same thing.
That's not, that's fake.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, right, and this stuff's real.
I forgot.
brian redban
But we had faces of death.
You know, as a kid, we all had to carry that around.
joe rogan
That was real.
But kids today have live leak.
They're watching that kind of shit every day.
They're watching people bounce off cars, like jumping from fucking the top of apartment buildings and bouncing off cars.
They're watching car accidents and motorcycle crashes.
They're seeing so much more crazy shit.
tony hinchcliffe
And they get to cheat at school too.
Like having an iPhone is crazy.
I would have been straight A's if I had an iPhone in my pocket.
joe rogan
If you're a lazy teacher and you just let it slide.
brian redban
Apple Watch.
You just have everything in your notes.
Just going through your Apple Watch.
Looks like you're checking the time.
joe rogan
There's something that's going on now where they don't want parents to protest at these school board meetings.
Have you seen this?
What I've seen about it is people complaining, so I don't know the story, but I believe the story is parents are complaining about a bunch of different things at these school board meetings, and it's getting very intense.
And so there was talk Of them not being able to do it and just how they were labeled.
Like someone, I don't know if they were using hyperbole, but they were saying they're being labeled a terrorist if they go and protest the kind of education their kid is getting.
It's like real controversial.
One day when you kids shoot a live round into someone and make a person, you'll understand why this is weird to people.
The increasingly wild world of school board meetings.
At one event, riled up conservatives.
See, that's a problem.
As soon as you labeled them.
Just say they're parents.
Got so, you know, because you're automatically classifying them in this way.
You know, have you really sat down and talked to them about their politics?
Maybe they just don't like a specific thing you guys are teaching.
Got so out of hand that the board chair battled the proceedings.
brian redban
Halted.
joe rogan
Halted.
Why are they using such fucked up font?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
What weird font?
tony hinchcliffe
Because we're the New Yorker.
joe rogan
But look how halted looks like a bee.
Tell me it doesn't look like a bee.
brian redban
It does.
joe rogan
While the police cleared the room.
So what does that mean?
The police cleared the room because they were yelling and screaming.
Stop teaching racism.
No critical race theory.
Yep, there's, you know...
brian redban
Jeez, woke parents.
joe rogan
Well, it's the woke school system.
Sometimes it's woke parents, but this is complaining about the woke school system, that they're indoctrinating these ideas into kids, whether it's critical race theory or...
There's a bunch of different theories.
Like, today is Columbus Day.
It used to be.
Now it's Indigenous Peoples Day.
And people were saying, That the reason why it shouldn't be Columbus Day is because Columbus was a monster.
He came here and he killed a bunch of people and it seems like if you pay attention to...
There was a priest, right, that wrote a thing about him.
A priest who was there who documented his experience with Columbus's people and it was horrific.
Like horrific murders, killing babies and cutting people's arms off if they don't bring them enough gold.
Like wild, crazy shit.
Like they were...
Vicious, evil people.
But the fucked up thing is everyone was back then.
This is like the dirty little secret of the time.
If you go through the Inquisition, if you listen to any of the stories, like Empire of the Summer Moon, where Gwen talks about the Comanches that lived right here, dude, the things they did to their enemies were horrific.
That book will freak you out.
Empire of the Sun Rune is an incredible book.
About here, about Texas.
The reason why they couldn't get through Texas was the Comanche.
They were so fucking badass.
But they were vicious.
And when they captured people, everyone fought to the death.
Because if you were captured, you were just tortured and killed.
So because of that, they would never give up.
It wasn't like in England and in Europe, the generals would meet the other generals in the battlefield and they would concede.
They would give them their sword.
There's none of that with the Comanches.
So they would just torture each other.
And one of the things they would do is they'd light a giant bonfire and then they would hack a guy's dick off, stuff it in his mouth, and hack his arms off and his legs off and then throw him on the fire while he's still alive.
tony hinchcliffe
Probably not even the middle of the fire, probably like the halfway point.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
Probably.
Bro.
I mean the shit that they did to their enemies was ruthless.
This is not denying that Columbus was a cunt.
For sure, if that priest and his journal are accurate, it's fucking horrific shit.
Bartolome de las Casas.
It was a 16th century Spanish landowner, a friar, a priest, and a bishop.
And he's the guy who went with Columbus and wrote a journal about how horrific it was to be there and watch what his men did to the indigenous people.
So when you hear that, you go, why the fuck do we have a Columbus Day?
That guy was a serial killer.
He was a sociopath.
But then you find out, oh my god, everybody was.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not everybody, not everybody, but it was like fucking way more common to be a ruthless murderer.
The law was a little sketchy.
Getting caught with things was a little more iffy.
People were just a little wilder, you know?
It's a different world.
If you go back before people were writing books, like, holy shit, dude.
It's not that long.
There's like this jump in information when you could find out what a bunch of other people had figured out, not just the people near you, but a bunch of other people had figured out, and you could read their shit.
As soon as that happened, then people started, like, less and less over time, Being so barbaric.
But it took a long ass time.
But you go before the books?
Before the books?
Can you imagine what it would be like if you grew up just in America?
Let's pretend the power's out for like a few decades.
And you're in like the mountains of Arkansas.
You're running across some real old school, no electricity having hillbillies.
And it's just you and your four friends and there's no phones and there's a limited supply of food Yeah, how comfortable you think you'd feel.
You'd feel terrified.
That was the normal state of people for, like, most of history.
The normal state for people for most of history is high alert.
High alert from murderous tribes that are neighboring that want to steal your resources.
That's what everybody did to everybody.
That's what chimps do to other chimps.
They've observed it.
They go around.
They have, like, borders.
And if you violate their borders, they'll kill you.
They kill the other chimps, and they'll sometimes even sneak across borders and kill chimps, and then run back to their border.
Like, they know where their borders are.
That tribal, fucked-up, crazy behavior, it's, like, ingrained in us.
It's ingrained in us.
It's a fucking weird thing that we have.
tony hinchcliffe
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
We're seeing it with this COVID shit, too.
Like, people branch off into groups, whether it makes sense or not.
They branch off into masks or no masks, vaccinated or unvaccinated, natural immunity or get the damn shot.
You know, there's so much of this going on, man.
It's wild to watch.
It's wild to watch people that...
Don't handle anxiety and fear well.
Getting thrust into an undeniable worldwide anxiety and fear conference group.
And they're all just like yelling at each other.
tony hinchcliffe
And the people that are scared think that the people that aren't scared are bad people because they're not like them.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Even if you've had the disease and recovered, they're mad at you.
Like, okay.
Like, I didn't make this.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
Okay?
Somebody made this.
And you're not even mad at that guy.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Does this make any sense?
Because that guy's on the good team.
He's on the side of Max and Vax, and if you could say that, Max and Vax, and you're a part of that group, you get protected because you're in the opposition of those crazy Trumpers.
They're all going to catch COVID. This walk-off is nuts, man.
The Southwest pilots, they try to lie and say, it's bad weather.
We got bad weather.
They had to cancel like a thousand flights.
unidentified
Yeah.
Crazy.
joe rogan
The pilots are like, we're not getting vaccinated.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
Our drummer's stuck in wherever he is.
brian redban
Chicago.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, right now.
brian redban
I heard they were also saying something about the towers, the flight towers.
joe rogan
Yeah, air traffic controllers.
And then there's other people that are calling those people terrorists for doing this, which is like, what?
tony hinchcliffe
I read a thing.
joe rogan
You're missing the fucking point.
There's other ways to do this at this point.
We're pretty far into this game, okay?
We can test people.
You can test people.
You can test them all the time.
It doesn't cost that much money.
Test like 20 bucks, you know?
I mean, if it's worth it for someone to To decide that you can spend an extra 20 bucks a day and you can do whatever you want and we know that everybody's safe and maybe we should even test the people that are vaccinated since there have been so many cases of vaccinated people getting it.
They should be testing people.
They should make better tests and then have good treatments.
But you can't tell someone that their job depends on taking a chance with this new medication that they might not need because they have already gotten COVID and recovered.
And that's the case with a bunch of them.
They don't want to do it.
They don't want this blanket.
It doesn't make sense, right?
It's one thing if like...
It was debatable whether or not the natural immunity works.
It probably doesn't work.
You probably can catch it over and over again.
But if you get the vaccine, that won't be the case.
But it's not that.
It's kind of the other way, right?
They're saying it's really long-lasting.
And they're still saying, no, you have to get vaccinated anyway.
But that doesn't make any sense because you can do a test.
Like, they can give you an antibodies test.
You did one today.
You did one today.
unidentified
Had thick.
joe rogan
He's got them vax antibodies.
Yeah.
Recently vaxed legit antibodies.
But, like, they can do that to people.
You don't have to tell someone their job depends on you listening to me and taking something you're not comfortable with.
tony hinchcliffe
Do they make people get a chicken pox vaccine if they've already had the chicken pox?
joe rogan
No, they do not.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
That's one of the things that drives me crazy about this, because I've had a couple of very smart people tell me to get vaccinated, even though I've already gotten over COVID. I go, but there's a study out of Israel.
It's 2.5 million people that show between 6 and 13 times better protection from a natural recovering infection.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
brian redban
My maid got the vaccine, and three months later, she's still hurt in constant pain.
All her nerves are just fucked up, and she can barely move some days, and it started with the vaccine, the second shot.
joe rogan
Is it on the same spot where the vaccine hit?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
No, it's like her whole body, like her whole back and her whole head.
She's like, I don't know what to do, and she's been going to all these doctors, and they don't know how to fix it, and...
joe rogan
It's super, super rare.
And you have to be clear about this.
Because the thing is, if you're treating 300 million people with anything, you're going to get a lot of bad reactions.
No matter what it is.
Like, no matter what the medicine is.
It's just a thing about measuring at scale.
The question is, should we be forcing people to do it?
That's where it is.
It's not that it's so horrendously dangerous.
It's only sometimes dangerous.
And I don't think they totally know why and to who.
I think there's a lot of questions.
Also, they like...
They don't always administer it right.
Do you know that?
Like, here's the thing.
On fucking TV, they don't administer right.
You're supposed to aspirate, apparently.
And I'm just finding about this recently because of the Biden thing, when Biden was getting a shot on TV. I said, ah, that's probably fake.
Why did I say it's fake?
Well, first of all, I'm a fucking comedian, okay?
And he's 80, and he is on a fake movie set.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe that.
Maybe the fact that it's actually not really the White House, but a fake White House set.
Like, you see it with all the people around.
It's a stage.
brian redban
It's in the White House, though.
joe rogan
It's across the street.
brian redban
Oh, is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, apparently it's in some place that works better.
brian redban
Yeah, they do that for a lot of news conferences and shit.
joe rogan
But dude, they're not even trying to make it look...
Have you seen the photos of what it looks like?
brian redban
Yeah, I don't think they were hiding it, though.
joe rogan
No, it's not that they were hiding it.
But they didn't show it on TV. Right.
When they showed it on TV... I mean, look, they let all the reporters there.
So the reporters are going to take pictures and that's how we know about it.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
What we saw on television, though, was Biden at the White House.
Right.
tony hinchcliffe
And that's what a bunch of places reported, a bunch of professional journalists.
Joe Biden getting his vaccine shot at the White House.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, you can kind of call it the White House B or something like that.
I mean, it is a part of the complex, right?
brian redban
But isn't it the reporters, the ones that showed it and tried to sell it as the White House?
It wasn't Biden, though.
joe rogan
Is that the case?
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, it's like all the news.
It's not like Biden has a news channel and he's like, hey, see you.
I'm at the White House here.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, but he knew what he was doing.
If he wanted to keep it real, he would have walked onto that set and been like, this is weird.
What are we, the White House?
joe rogan
Well, what he should have done is insist on a different...
If you're going to do something across the street, just have a different setup.
Have an American flag, the presidential seal, and a new place where you do it from.
And he can get his vaccine there, and he can do whatever the fuck else he wants to do there.
Just have a different set.
Don't lie to people.
But the whole point of it is, it's like there's a little theater going on.
Not even that they're lying, but it's theater.
Show a picture of it, Jamie.
Because it's so ridiculous.
You've seen it, right?
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
I'm obsessed with this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This picture is weird.
Because it's so...
There's no reason to have it like this unless you're pretending.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
Like, there's no reason.
tony hinchcliffe
And then once you're pretending, who's to say where the pretending ends?
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
I mean, you could...
But here's the thing.
It's like, why do you even have the desire to pretend you're in a different place filming this?
Like, that literally doesn't make any sense.
You got it?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to find it.
I wasn't ready to have it dug up.
joe rogan
Oh, it's in my Instagram.
You can find it on my Instagram.
jamie vernon
I was going to find that, but like Brian was saying, I was looking into this that day.
There's lots of pictures of other conferences they've done in that room.
They did dress it up to look different, but they use that room all the time.
joe rogan
Oh, well, no, I'm not denying that they fake shit all the time.
brian redban
It's kind of like at the real White House, if you're going to have a bunch of people with cameras, you want it to look better.
You've been to the Playboy Mansion, how gross and old and outdated and nasty it looks.
You wouldn't want to have a...
joe rogan
Remember when we went for that marijuana policy project thing?
We did a marijuana policy project at the Playboy Mansion.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh.
joe rogan
And it was just so odd.
We were like doing stand-up there.
I was a host of this thing.
I brought a bunch of musicians on.
I was so high, I don't even remember it.
So here, look at this.
This is madness.
This is just weird.
This is what's weird about it.
Not that there's a stage and he sits up there.
What's weird is that there's a stage where it's pretend outside.
So the windows have a LCD, I guess, in them, and it's a television.
So it works like a gigantic high-resolution monitor, and it makes some imagery of trees blowing in the distance in the perfect summer day.
brian redban
It might not even be that.
It might be like that backdrop, like when you got your head shots, you know, or at Dennis' office.
joe rogan
No, I think it looks good.
I think it moves around, right?
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Can you get a video of it, Jamie?
jamie vernon
That's why I was trying to find other stuff.
joe rogan
So when someone said, like, why would you think that he didn't get the shot?
Well, first of all, it's a set.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Second of all, he's really old, and it just is a wise move.
I'm not saying he didn't get the booster.
I'm sure he got boosted.
What I'm saying is, why would you do it publicly?
Why would you take that risk?
That seems like a crazy risk to take.
And thirdly, you're supposed to aspirate.
So whenever you inject, you have to pull out a little bit, At the injection before you plunge the medicine into the arm because you want to make sure that you didn't hit a blood vessel.
So if you pull back on the needle and blood comes into the little chamber, then you realize you're on a blood vessel.
And they think that is the cause of a lot of these side effects from the vaccine.
tony hinchcliffe
Ah, getting directly into the bloodstream.
joe rogan
Directly in the bloodstream instead of intramuscularly and so Sanjay Gupta and I were actually talking about that and he was kind of explaining it to me and Which is a very interesting conversation.
He's a super nice guy like a real genuine nice guy and we talked a lot about all this controversial shit But it's just, it's so, everyone's so high-strung about it all.
And they want to tell you about all the millions of people that have died.
And you want to go, yes, terrible, tragic.
And millions of people are dying right now of other stuff.
Like, people are still dying of heart attacks and still dying of cancer, still dying of a lot of stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you can't just focus on that.
You know, like, how much of our lives over the past year and eight months have been overwhelmed by COVID? McDonald's has killed more people.
tony hinchcliffe
They're wide open today.
Right?
I mean, nobody talks about it.
It's just society picks and chooses what it wants to really freak out about.
joe rogan
But see, McDonald's doesn't really kill you though.
It only kills you if you eat it every day.
brian redban
Yeah, it's your own bad choice.
joe rogan
See, COVID, yeah, COVID you catch.
This is why it's a bad...
Like, I eat at McDonald's once every four months or something like that.
I'll have some palaya fishes.
They're delicious.
tony hinchcliffe
I love it.
joe rogan
I love them.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, that weird piece of American cheese on there.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
There's something about fish and tartar sauce.
Whoever figured that out?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fried fish and tartar sauce, they fucking nailed that flavor.
brian redban
John Tartar.
joe rogan
Well...
I don't think that's true, but they don't kill anybody.
They just provide food, and if you eat only that food, you'll probably die.
But that's your fault.
That's like whiskey doesn't really kill you.
You kill yourself with whiskey.
tony hinchcliffe
Isn't that what the COVID people are saying?
If you don't wear a mask and you're not vaccinated, then that's your choice.
joe rogan
But that's not true.
tony hinchcliffe
You should do it.
Well, I agree.
joe rogan
But that's why it doesn't work.
See, what I'm saying is if you eat McDonald's every day, eventually you'll get sick and you'll probably get a bunch of health problems if you just eat nothing but fried food and fries and soda every day.
But the COVID thing, the reason why it doesn't make sense is you just catch it.
Like, out of nowhere.
It's not like through any bad fault of your own.
You just catch it.
And sometimes people catch it when they're being careful and they catch it with masks on.
They don't even know why they catch it.
They just catch it.
It's fucking contagious.
It's really contagious.
That's why it's not the same argument.
Because, like, you just might get this.
So if you get this, then you have to figure out, you know, how to take care of your body.
And whether or not you're vaccinated or unvaccinated.
There's a lot of people that are catching it.
But if you are vaccinated, it sure seems like you have a better go of it.
It sure seems like the people that get vaccinated have, for sure, their symptoms are less.
For sure, it gives them some antibodies.
It helps them recover.
There's a lot of other stuff that helps, too.
On top of that, we really should be telling people, forget vaccines.
Tell people to get vaccinated.
I'll clap with you.
Go ahead.
Do whatever you want.
But also, tell them to take vitamin D. There's a giant percentage of the people who wind up in the hospital for COVID have vitamin D deficiencies.
It's huge.
It's so much so that medical journals are now recommending people take vitamin D to help It doesn't necessarily prevent anything.
It's like, what prevents you from getting sick?
Your immune system that's strengthened by a combination of factors, nutrients and sleep and stress and all kinds of other stuff.
But on that list, vitamin D is definitely in there.
And people are realizing that too.
So it's like if you are vaccinated but you're also unhealthy and you have terrible life choices and bad habits and you're depleted in vitamin D versus if you're Cameron Haynes, you know, who's running a marathon every day and eats nothing but healthy food.
Like, which one do you think is safer?
Well, it's pretty obvious Cameron's safer, right?
But we don't look at it that way.
We're looking at this one-size-fits-all for the whole fucking world.
And again, regardless of whether or not you've already been sick, like you and I have been sick, Red Band dodged that shit like Floyd Mayweather.
I don't know how the fuck he did it.
brian redban
I'm addicted to liquid IV, guys.
I have like five of them a day, so...
joe rogan
It might be a factor.
unidentified
No bullshit.
brian redban
I mean, I used to drink cans of soda and Gatorade all day long, and now with this, I drink it like water.
joe rogan
I know that's our sponsor.
brian redban
But I'm being serious.
joe rogan
I'm being serious, too.
I don't work out without it.
I take it on hunting trips.
When I do sauna sessions, I drink it.
Usually, I do sauna after I work out, so...
While I'm working out, I'm conscious to drink like, you know, 64 ounces of water.
I drink like a shitload of water, so I get nice and juicy dehydrated up when I get into the sauna.
But I drink those liquid IVs, man.
It's a game changer.
tony hinchcliffe
That stuff was huge a year ago when I had the Rona.
I mean, it came through clutch for me.
It's really one of the only things that I even used for it, period.
I like raw-dogged it.
I didn't have the kitchen sink.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you got sick at a time where nobody really had any treatments.
There wasn't a vaccine yet, and I don't even know if they had figured out whether or not ivermectin works.
Because a lot of people still say ivermectin doesn't work, but I don't know if they were even treating people with it then, when you were.
tony hinchcliffe
You know, they announced today Merck's trying to get their antiviral drug.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're trying to get a drug that they say, that what they say about ivermectin, it mimics that.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
That it does the same thing ivermectin does.
I don't know if that's true, though.
Obviously.
I'd have to talk to somebody who really understands the science behind what's better, the Merck one or the ivermectin one.
I don't know who's telling the truth.
But, you know, the people, the promoters of this Ivermectin stuff, like the Dr. Pierre Correys of the world, they've actually treated people.
That's what's crazy to me.
It's like, it's not clear who's telling the truth and who's lying.
This is part of the problem with it.
Like, there are definitely some shenanigans that are going on.
But are the shenanigans going on because people are overzealous and want everyone to think that Ivermectin is, like, super effective?
Or are all these shenanigans going on...
Because There's a drug there's another drug and they're trying to disparage Any other different kinds of treatments and that they're about to launch something you know or you know who's telling the truth is it are the ivermectin people exaggerating maybe a little Are the other people demonizing ivermectin because they have a competitive drug that's coming out I think maybe Possibly too like there's it's not it's like most human things.
It's not real clear There's definitely some shenanigans all over the place.
Are you talking about the FDA? I'm talking about just people accepting whether or not certain drugs work based on the profit margin they get out of them.
The thing that freaks me out about things like ivermectin is that it's generic.
So anyone can make it.
It's so convenient that a drug that anyone can make, that they're handing out all over the world, in America, they're like, don't take that.
Hold on.
We've got our own.
We've got our own version of it.
But I don't know who's right.
Maybe they're right.
I don't think Dr. Pierre, Corey, or those frontline critical care people are lying.
brian redban
I thought it was like the FDA just pretty much said they don't see a connection with it working.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's all sorts of problems with that, though.
There's problems with the FDA. And one of the things that happens, it's kind of crazy that it's real.
But people work for the FDA, and then they leave, and then they work for Pfizer?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
That is weird.
joe rogan
Dude, could you imagine?
Could you imagine?
Just fucking imagine.
You're a guy who's working for the FDA, and you know if you play your cards right, you could be a motherfucking CEO at Pfizer.
Dude, you could be one of the bigwigs.
Dude, you could have a yacht.
Dude, what about your own plane?
unidentified
Maybe get your own plane, Chester, if you go over to Pfizer.
joe rogan
Like, that is real.
You can be a part of the government's regulatory authority on drugs, and then you can leave and go work for a drug company.
It's not like there's any motivation to do things for these guys.
They're like, Chester, listen, we've got a wonderful organization.
We do a lot of good for people.
So a few people die here and there, you know, trying to make some money, beholden to our stakeholders.
And these guys, they leave and they go from one organization to the other.
It's crazy.
And make insane amounts of profit.
So that's not a perfect system.
That's not a perfect system.
There are two different kinds of people.
The kind of people that want to make a lot of money off of drugs should be very different kinds of people than the kind of people that want to regulate drugs and make sure that everybody's safe.
They should be very different kinds of people.
That's very different jobs.
That's like the difference between a comedian and an executive at Comedy Central.
Very different jobs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very different kinds of people, right?
If you're a comic, then all of a sudden you're an executive at Comedy Central, I'm going to go, hey, what are you doing over here?
Right?
That's how I feel about someone who works for the FDA and then goes over and works for Pfizer.
Like, hey.
brian redban
Yeah, you shouldn't be allowed to do that, but I see why they do.
I mean, what else are they going to do?
They know so much about the business already.
They're not going to switch and be like going to tech or something.
joe rogan
Right.
The problem is how much influence did this company and the carrot that they were dangling have over them before they leave and go to Pfizer or to go to Merck or any company.
Any multi multi-billion dollar company.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, they had a congressman.
I think it was John Boehner remember him?
Mm-hmm, and he was a heavy smoker like they say that like you when you go to his office in Congress They're just just be thick cigarette smoke and stains on the ceilings and all this and he got out and he became a lobbyist for RJ Reynolds, which is yeah the biggest you know maker of cigarettes just a ton of different brands and These are the system of government to lobbyists where you make your money and then go back.
unidentified
It's crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
It's insane.
joe rogan
Heavy smoker.
John Boehner joins Tobacco Company's board.
But hey, look, the fucking guy is a smoker.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
unidentified
Who better?
He looks cool.
brian redban
Look how cool he looks smoking that cigarette.
tony hinchcliffe
Yup.
joe rogan
Why does it look cool smoking a cigarette?
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
But it does.
tony hinchcliffe
Because it is cool.
Boys and girls.
joe rogan
It does look cool.
brian redban
Way cooler than sucking on this little purple thing I got here, you know?
unidentified
Oh, the vapes?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not the same.
The vapes are...
Anybody want a cigar?
brian redban
Sure.
unidentified
Oh.
Yeah!
tony hinchcliffe
It's cigar time, everybody!
I don't think we've...
All the things we've done together, I don't think we've ever smoked a cigar together.
brian redban
Oh yeah, that's true.
tony hinchcliffe
We've traveled the world.
joe rogan
These are JRE cigars.
brian redban
Oh, are you gonna sell these?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Why not?
There's so many cigar people.
joe rogan
Well, Foundation Cigars made it for me.
unidentified
Here, I'll cut them for you guys.
brian redban
They should sell these, though.
I saw a lot of people talking about them.
They wanted to try them.
joe rogan
Well, I don't have to talk to Foundation Cigars.
They're the ones who put these together.
But they're a really good cigar.
I'm by no means a cigar expert.
I just know what I like.
It's like the same way I am about wine.
I literally don't know jack shit about wine, other than what I've learned from guys like Maynard or my friend Matt, who tried to explain it to me.
You know, like the people are really into wine.
brian redban
What do you look for in a good cigar?
Like, I don't even know.
Like, it's not dry or super dry, I guess, or flaky.
joe rogan
These have been in a humidor.
So they gave us this humidor, and you put distilled water in it, and you keep it at about, I think it's about 65, like the humidity, 65%.
brian redban
Yeah, I never got into cigars.
As a smoker, you just want to inhale these.
So it's kind of like a dick tease.
joe rogan
This is another one of those.
Oh, it's over here.
Yeah, the head rush of the cigarette is second to none.
This is like a slow trickle of taste.
tony hinchcliffe
Sort of.
Cigars can really bang you up, man.
joe rogan
Oh, they can get you.
tony hinchcliffe
Even as a heavy cigarette smoker that's used to a lot of nicotine, they can really hit hard.
brian redban
I puked once from smoking.
joe rogan
Well, know this.
You can't inhale it.
How crazy is that?
brian redban
Yeah, but it's still going through your mouth, like the veins in your mouth, so you're still getting just huge shotguns of nicotine.
joe rogan
I know, but how crazy is it that there's a type of tobacco smoke that's so strong that you don't even inhale it?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like universally kind of acknowledged.
Like no one's out there hardcore, yeah bro, I inhale my cigars.
I inhale them, I don't give a fuck.
No one does that.
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody just kind of tastes it.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
Chewing tobacco, same thing.
You just set a little tiny pinch of it in your lip and it does its work.
You don't have to swallow that spit.
If you swallow your spit, you get even more nicotine.
joe rogan
I've definitely tried it.
Yeah.
It's so gross.
I've definitely tried it.
I tried it when I was a kid, when I was into Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn, and I almost threw up.
Because they always chewed tobacco in those books.
And then I tried it as an adult when my friends had, like, we did a podcast with Donald Taroni, and I swallowed dip.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
I couldn't figure out how to keep it in my mouth.
Like, I couldn't figure out how to pack it, so it just kept getting in my mouth, and eventually I just swallowed it.
And that wasn't good.
But it wasn't that bad.
People said I was going to throw up or something.
It really wasn't that bad.
brian redban
My old roommate used to be a dipper, and he would just sit there with his little beer can and just spit and spit and spit all day long.
One time I was wasted, and I grabbed it, and I chugged it.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
That's wrong.
brian redban
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
No.
joe rogan
My friend Phil gave me one of those little pouches.
It's like a little diaper filled with tobacco that you stuff in your mouth.
I did not like that.
I got nervous.
See, here's the thing.
These crazy hardcore nicotine guys, this is my thing.
I think the dippers are the most addicted.
I think they're the most addicted.
I think they're getting the biggest rush.
I think the dippers are getting like crazy amounts of tobacco.
Because first of all, you kind of self-regulate, because you could choose the amount of dip.
You see these guys walking around looking like squirrels, like half their cheek is popped out because they got like a fat wad of dip.
Those guys are tripping.
Right?
They're on so much tobacco, so much nicotine.
tony hinchcliffe
You know who's got the most going for them is Ron White, because he smokes little versions of these that don't have a filter, and he inhales.
joe rogan
Yeah, he inhales.
tony hinchcliffe
I remember he was telling me about how he didn't think that there was that much nicotine in one of these little cigarillo things that he was smoking.
He's like, I think someone once told me that there's not much nicotine in it, but I was thinking to myself, how come I always want one right when I get off the airplane?
brian redban
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
He ended up looking it up and these things that he smokes throughout the day, it turns out like each one is like a pack of cigarettes.
joe rogan
Well, that's the pure tobacco, right?
That's why you're not supposed to inhale them.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, that's why he likes them so much is because it's filled with everything.
joe rogan
He gave one to me once and I'm like, do you inhale this?
I was like confused.
tony hinchcliffe
Well, I do.
brian redban
I mean, that's worse than Marlboro Reds.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's worse.
That's like duct-taping three camels together.
tony hinchcliffe
He's like, I thought these were good for me until I looked it up.
joe rogan
Those dudes, I remember the dudes in the pool hall that used to smoke camels.
I always had a different kind of respect for them.
brian redban
That's my cigarette run.
joe rogan
Fuck a filter.
Wow.
The no-filter camel is a bold choice.
That's a bold choice.
For a smoker?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
Hey man, I was there, dude.
That was basically like marijuana to...
Other than marijuana, it was like weed to us when we were in high school.
You would just get buzzed.
You'd smoke cigarettes to get like a little fucked up.
joe rogan
Here's the question.
What does that filter do?
brian redban
It doesn't stain your teeth.
It also supposedly filters out some of the bad shit in it.
tony hinchcliffe
It takes like the tar part of it.
joe rogan
Is the tar bad?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Have you ever smoked weed with a filter?
joe rogan
I'm sure I have.
brian redban
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure I have.
jamie vernon
Not a paper one just to stop the...
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I mean, an actual filter.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
jamie vernon
Like a tobacco or a cigarette one?
There's some company that started selling N95 filters I smoke my bong through.
And after five to ten hits, you can't even get shit through it.
It's filled with tar and nasty shit.
brian redban
Well, here's something gross.
If you're a smoker, everyone knows this trick.
You take like a big...
Puff of your cigarette and you blow it through a paper towel and it's just a brown ring.
You've done that?
unidentified
Have you done that?
joe rogan
Don't you think that when you vaporize weed that you get a different high?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
It's a different high, right?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
It feels like maybe that's what you're feeling.
It's more clean.
It's almost like you're getting more of the actual drug and not a bunch of burnt fiber, too.
Because if you have to think of plant fiber, when you're smoking weed, you've got a lot of stuff in there, right?
It's like plant stuff.
And you're burning it.
So the smoke is so much different than vaporized THC. Because then you're just heating up the drug.
You're just heating up the plant compound and it escapes in the vapor.
And it doesn't hurt at all when it comes in.
unidentified
It just...
joe rogan
When we used to do that, though, at the podcast, we had real problems with those episodes.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, like...
brian redban
You'd bust out the volcano.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
The volcano was so scary.
tony hinchcliffe
Those things are strong.
joe rogan
Because we would be in the middle of talking, and I'd have no idea what we're talking about.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I have no idea what I said, and then maybe I would try to justify what I just said and make it worse.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, we would get so high.
Yeah.
Like, so stupid high.
We stopped doing the volcano after a while.
We can't keep doing this.
It's too scary.
It's like skiing down a hill.
Just going straight down, hoping you don't hit a tree.
brian redban
And then you had that glass bong that was bigger than Brad Williams.
It was like 12 feet tall or something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You mean the alien one?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have that, right?
brian redban
No, you were supposed to give it to me, but then you never did.
joe rogan
What?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Where is it then?
I don't know.
I was like, oh, he forgot.
I wanted that.
joe rogan
No, dude, I definitely gave it to you.
brian redban
No, you never did.
What?
You told me one day, you were like, hey, I'm going to bring it to the studio or something like that, and then you never did, and I didn't ask about it.
joe rogan
Well, where the fuck is it then?
Dude, that doesn't make any sense.
I am almost positive I gave that to you.
brian redban
The wife threw it away.
unidentified
Somebody's got it right now, and they're listening to this.
brian redban
I got your dick thing you gave me with a bunch of guys with dicks and stuff.
joe rogan
I bought this sculpture at a store.
It's like ebony wood, and it's all these characters with giant dicks.
It's the weirdest thing ever.
I saw it, I was like, who made this?
Why would you make this?
So it was these guys and all their dicks, and it was one of the things that, when I got married, I had to get rid of it.
brian redban
I love it.
I love it.
I have it right in my guest bathroom, so when you're sitting on the shitter, you're like...
Because you don't really notice the dicks at first.
You're like, what is this weird statue thing?
And then you're like, holy shit, there's dicks everywhere.
joe rogan
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, I got a lot of stuff back then when I first started making money, like those sculptures that you see out there, those big dog things.
What are those things called?
Something dogs?
tony hinchcliffe
Gargoyles.
joe rogan
They look like gargoyles, but there's like a name, like a type of dog.
It's like a...
tony hinchcliffe
Dozer the Carpathian?
What's from Ghostbusters?
brian redban
Ghostbusters, I was thinking that too.
joe rogan
No, it's like a thing from, you know, ancient mythology, and they're from Bali.
But that kind of dog guardian, they're supposed to be like...
So I figured they'd be good here.
brian redban
Yeah.
And your gold Buddha.
Your gold Buddha, yeah.
That's one of the first things you got when I first moved to California.
You had that huge gold Buddha.
joe rogan
One of the dumbest things I've ever bought.
I bought a bunch of...
I was always super attracted to ancient Buddhist artwork.
I have a bronze Shiva...
Like, that kind of stuff.
Like, ancient Hindu artwork.
Like, I have a 100-year-old piece of an ancient Buddhist Bible.
It's like this Thai Buddhist Bible.
Or the religious text, whatever they call it.
And I have this, like...
It's on, like...
Bamboo that they strapped down and turned into these flat boards and they painted on it in gold.
It's wild.
brian redban
You got haunted shit, man.
joe rogan
It is kind of because I look at that and I go, what were the people that made this?
The language looks beautiful.
I have no idea what it's saying, but the writing is beautiful.
And you've got to realize this is a hundred years ago.
People were writing this down, right?
No television, no movies.
You know, a hundred years ago they were writing this.
And this is more than a hundred years because I've had it for 20 years.
And it's just this sort of weird window into the way other people live that there's a lot of those different ways of living all over the world.
That's what's crazy.
If you travel and then you hear the way people talk in Thailand, you go, oh, this is just like you would talk like this too if you lived here.
How'd this get started?
How'd they develop the very simple, very way to talking?
They have a sing-songy way.
They're all super friendly.
Like, wow, it's crazy.
There's a vibe.
There's a vibe and a cool sound that goes with their language, but then you go over to Germany, different sound.
Totally different way of talking, totally different way of making noises.
Then you go to Israel, even more different.
You're like, wow.
People are strange, man.
You hear people talking in foreign languages that you don't understand, watching the news or something like that, or watching a YouTube video.
It's crazy, because people understand it, and you have no idea what the fuck they're saying.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, we were just in Boston.
Same thing.
I mean, it is.
And you go 40 minutes down the street here, there's a whole other dialect.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, that's a sound, right?
Like, who was the first Boston guy to fucking talk like that?
brian redban
Bill Burr.
joe rogan
Pack your car.
Bill Burr.
No, before him, there was these guys that had been around in Boston forever, the comics that had been around in Boston forever, they all had that accent.
They all had strong accents.
Like, no one had a neutral accent.
They all talked like they were from fucking Southie.
brian redban
Did you ever have, like, a mild version of it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I definitely did.
I saw myself on TV and I sounded like a moron.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, when I was 19. I'm like, oh my god, I'm so dumb.
I'm such a sheep.
tony hinchcliffe
What were you doing when you were 19?
joe rogan
I won the Bay State Games, which was an Olympic festival that they had in Massachusetts, and I won in my division for Taekwondo.
tony hinchcliffe
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
And you gave, like, an acceptance speech?
You're like, I want to thank everybody here.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they interviewed me because I had a very fast knockout.
I knocked this guy out, and it was pretty brutal.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And they interviewed me afterwards, and I just sounded like the biggest idiot.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
We've been working really hard, putting in a lot of hard work.
brian redban
Did you ever play stickball?
joe rogan
I'm sure I did.
brian redban
Why?
We don't play stickball in Ohio.
Well, we did in the street.
joe rogan
The thing about stickball was a good thing to do in the middle of the street.
Like when I lived in Jamaica Plain, we played stickball.
Because you could throw the ball to someone in the street, and then you'd have to stop when the car came by.
Hold on, car's gone.
Car would go by.
But, you know, you would worry about stray balls smashing windows, too, though.
That always happens.
Hit somebody's house.
But kids, they get bored.
If you leave kids on the streets, they're going to come up with games to play.
Everywhere, right?
tony hinchcliffe
Hell yeah, dude.
We used to play the dumbest shit.
Rough and tumble.
Where you just hit whoever has the ball.
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
tony hinchcliffe
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, that's why soccer's so famous, right?
Or so popular.
Because all you need is that ball.
That's all you need.
And you can make a ball.
Like, you can make a soccer ball out of, like, tape if you've got enough time.
And you're so inclined.
You know?
Have you ever seen that one they do in Myanmar where they play volleyball with their feet?
tony hinchcliffe
No.
joe rogan
Dude.
brian redban
That sounds hot.
joe rogan
It's hot.
unidentified
If you're in the feet, it's your kind of sport.
tony hinchcliffe
Or as Tarantino calls it, his favorite Olympics.
Foot volleyball.
brian redban
They get all sweaty.
tony hinchcliffe
These people have never seen another sport.
They don't have TVs or something like that.
joe rogan
We had David LeDuc, who's the champion of Latwe, and he lived in Myanmar, and he was telling us about this.
So he actually brought us one of them balls.
So it's like an empty ball.
See how it's like a wiffle ball?
But watch how they play this.
They play this with their feet.
It's wild, dude.
Look at this.
brian redban
I don't know why I thought they wouldn't have shoes on.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Well, sometimes they don't have shoes.
This is like serious professional level, though.
Look at that serve, dude.
Look at that serve.
I mean, that is crazy flexibility, man.
brian redban
Pulled groins must happen a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
And now, what is it called?
brian redban
Set-pack-tack-raw.
joe rogan
Set-back-tack-raw.
Yeah, these guys are, I mean, incredible athletes.
That's what's nuts about it, is like how difficult this must be to do.
Like these kicks.
Look at that.
Bro, I mean, look at that.
They're doing like a backflip and a kick at the same time.
brian redban
It's like professional hacky sackers.
joe rogan
It's way more high level though.
Look at that.
I mean, that is crazy.
These guys are like gymnasts and karate experts.
Look at that.
Look at this kick.
That is crazy.
The guy literally was like head down, feet up in the air, and he spikes it over the top of the neck.
tony hinchcliffe
Is that like a soft Is it a soft mat or is it a hard floor?
brian redban
This seems like a lot of injuries, like Segura shit.
joe rogan
It doesn't look like a soft mat to me.
tony hinchcliffe
None of these guys are really built like Segura.
brian redban
I know, but it just seems like you land wrong just a little.
joe rogan
The way Segura fell.
Maybe it's like a wrestling mat type deal.
brian redban
Yeah, it's gotta be.
joe rogan
Or like a jujitsu mat.
unidentified
This is crazy.
joe rogan
You know, because they can make those kind of mats where it doesn't hurt as much because that can't be hardwood.
brian redban
Look at that!
joe rogan
Look at that!
brian redban
That's insane!
joe rogan
Oh my god, you land wrong.
There's your ankle, son.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's for thin people.
This is not a fat-ass sport.
This is not a sport that is body positivity.
brian redban
Oh, and you can't touch it with your hand at all.
unidentified
No.
brian redban
Look at that.
joe rogan
That shit is wild.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
So they do this.
See if you can find videos of people doing it, because Dave had one that he played on the podcast.
But they do it barefoot.
And these guys are like swatting this thing over and they're like super skillful.
brian redban
That's a good shit.
joe rogan
But it's like, imagine being able to move your legs like that.
And flip and whack that ball.
I mean, this is it.
Oh, this guy's got shoes too.
jamie vernon
I try to find out a larger gentleman doing it.
brian redban
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's pretty big.
Damn, he's fat as fuck.
tony hinchcliffe
What the fuck?
brian redban
I can play this game!
joe rogan
I mean, for someone who can do this...
brian redban
Oh, you can use your head?
joe rogan
Look at this!
tony hinchcliffe
Oh my goodness!
How does he do that?
joe rogan
Oh my god, he's a fucking stud.
jamie vernon
We need to get Bert to try.
joe rogan
Bert's ready to go.
Imagine if this was Bert's shit.
As soon as Bert starts gaining flexibility, he realizes he's always had the explosiveness.
They're going to get a picture of each other's dick tattooed on the back of their arm.
tony hinchcliffe
I love it.
joe rogan
Bert's going to get Tom's dick.
Tom's going to get Bert's dick.
They took pictures of their dicks and they're going to get them tattooed on each other.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, Bert's dick got covered up on tonight's episode of Kill Tony.
brian redban
Yeah, they put the old Bucky logo on top of it.
joe rogan
I'm glad.
I thought about that.
I was like, this could be an issue.
Yeah, we showed up at that Kill Tony.
Ballasted!
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
We came in five drinks in.
brian redban
It's one funny thing.
Every time you come on Kill Tony, you're blasted.
tony hinchcliffe
It's a fun thing that can happen here.
It's wild.
If you're feeling good on a Monday, you know that there's always an open door.
It was that way at the comedy store.
There was a whole bunch of people that would just walk through.
Ron White would show up anytime he wanted, and Bobby Lee could walk through anytime.
You know what I mean?
It's a very open...
For as crazy of a show as it is and as packed as it is and how much purpose there is sometimes and how serious of a show it can be, it's also like a wide open party.
joe rogan
Well, I never feel like I should be sober.
Like, why would I be sober here?
I'm not really performing.
I'm just watching.
Let's show up blasted.
tony hinchcliffe
You can pull it off.
brian redban
Yeah, it's hard for Tony to do it because Tony really...
Watching early episodes and watching how Tony has involved...
He's become this host now, which he never had that ever, I don't think.
I think he totally learned it from Kill Tony, but...
It's pretty amazing, like all the spinning plates that Tony has to deal with, you know, or we all have to deal with.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I can't get fucked up for that show.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
tony hinchcliffe
Everyone else can.
joe rogan
You really have hit an incredible level.
Like, you're so good at coordinating the show.
And knowing where it's at, and knowing when to add something, and when to start asking them questions, when to move on to the next person, you know?
And the fucking rapport you guys have, like with you and David Lucas, that is some of the funniest shit I've ever seen.
When you guys start hacking on each other, And laughing at each other's stuff.
And it's uniquely fun with the two of you, because first of all, when you get Dave, he laughs hard.
He laughs hard.
Like, he enjoys it.
If you get him with a good one.
And then this last one that he put up on his Instagram was fucking hilarious.
And he got you, and you're like, ah, you got me.
You got me.
Like, it's fun.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
When we get the other one real good once every couple episodes, like, real good to where even we're surprised, we always give the other one credit.
There's been a lot of those.
A lot of those just in the moment going right off of what he's going off of.
Because that cuts out before Red Band whispers into my ear on that one.
That's what's funny about that men's room one is Red Band, who isn't the roaster on the show at all, he whispers in my ear and I'm like, what?
What'd you say?
And he goes, something about urinal cake.
Say urinal cake.
I'm like...
He was actually right.
So when I'm going, you son of a bitch, I'm actually thinking of how to reword and properly execute.
joe rogan
Play this.
tony hinchcliffe
You only like the men's room because there's urinal cakes in there.
It ends up being like the thing.
unidentified
Like the inside of a urinal.
Oh.
tony hinchcliffe
God damn it.
How do you know what the inside of a urinal looks like?
unidentified
I actually go to the men's restroom.
Oh.
It's quick.
joe rogan
And with the band...
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Folks, if you're in Austin, you have to see the show.
I think it's the best...
tony hinchcliffe
It's crazy.
It's unbelievable.
He got me.
joe rogan
I think that's it, right?
tony hinchcliffe
For sure.
That's a good men's restroom joke.
But I'm still setting up.
I can tell just by listening to myself there, like, I'm setting up.
joe rogan
The next one.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the best fucking live show in comedy.
It really is.
Because it's such an unusual show.
And it's such an amazing show to show young comedians what's really important.
When you see the camaraderie that you guys have and that we all have on the show, and then comics come on the show and there are guests and the people that come in and do one minute every week.
Yeah.
There's a fun...
It's like an escape.
It's a wild show.
It's a wild, fun experience.
And it's all just about being funny.
Which is one of the things that's dangerously close to being exterminated in some circles in today's comedy.
All about...
Just the conceit.
Like, you're conceding.
You understand what they're doing.
They're just trying to be funny.
This is not their positions in the world and how people feel about things.
They're just trying to be funny.
And that is all you're getting at Kill Tony.
You're getting it from you guys.
You're getting it from the guests, the people that come up.
They have one minute.
In that minute, you're not gonna fucking fix social justice.
You are gonna get jokes.
You're gonna get laughs.
That's what it's for.
And that's what everybody does there.
And it's fun.
And there's a lot of support.
And there's a lot of energy in the local amateur community that does it every week.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an amazing springboard.
If you can get your feet wet on Kill Tony and get a few laughs.
You don't have to kill.
Just get a few laughs.
You'll start thinking, hey...
Maybe I could fucking do this.
Maybe I could fucking do this.
Maybe you're working part-time as a waiter and you haven't really been going to open mics that much and you do it and you're like, hey, I think maybe I can fucking do this.
And you hang out with those people, instead of going out with your friends and smoking crack and listening to techno or whatever you're doing, you say, well, I'm going to go to an open mic.
tony hinchcliffe
And from our perspective, we've all...
The show's evolved and everything, but we've gotten really good at recognizing what's what.
They used to say that Mitzi would know within 30 seconds or whatever if you were good or not.
And when I first started stand-up, I'm like, that sounds crazy.
I doubt that that's true.
And here we are 15 years later, and I'm like, oh, I can tell if a person's garbage in 16 seconds.
And, uh, on the vice versa, you know, like, Hans Kim told me a couple days ago, we're in the green room, and he's like, you know, I was on Keltony, like, four or five years ago, and you really liked my appearance.
I'm like, what?
You were?
He's like, yeah, when you guys were in the belly room.
And I looked it up on my phone right then and there.
And he does a set, and I go, dude, you're hilarious, man.
Like, you have a real fun future ahead of you, or something like that.
Like, very foreshadowing.
brian redban
This is crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
And he murders every single week, and he's funny in the green room, he's funny offstage, he's funny all the time.
joe rogan
He has a perpetual smile.
tony hinchcliffe
Yep.
joe rogan
He really does.
The dude is like always smiling.
brian redban
He's always happy and he's always smart and fast with his comebacks and shit.
joe rogan
He's a great guy to be around.
He's a fun guy to watch develop and grow too.
But that's what I think about this show.
I think Kill Tony, the show you guys do is the cornerstone of the comedy community.
tony hinchcliffe
And I think William's the real...
Freaking deal.
Like, I think he's what everybody, you know, back in the day, like John Belushi and all these Chris Farley, all these goofball big guys, like, I think he's the real one.
You know, he's such a silly goose.
He's the silliest, and his head...
joe rogan
Listen, he's great, but you don't have to disparage Chris Farley and John Belushi, you piece of shit.
You see what he did?
tony hinchcliffe
No, I didn't.
I'm saying he's a modern day.
joe rogan
Bro, you're talking about dead legends.
Have some respect.
Jesus Christ.
brian redban
Goddammit, Tony.
joe rogan
Goddammit.
tony hinchcliffe
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying they are legends.
joe rogan
You can't call them goofballs.
Yeah, huh?
tony hinchcliffe
Goofball isn't an insult.
I said the G word?
joe rogan
I don't like the way he said it.
It seemed to me like it was disparaging.
brian redban
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
No.
I'm saying the big silly guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think there's any reason to compare.
He's great.
He's very funny.
There's no reason to spare the name of dead people.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm not!
I love John Belushi and Chris Farley.
I'm just saying I think William's the modern day version of the silly guy.
joe rogan
I get what you're saying.
It just doesn't work.
I met Chris Farley one day.
tony hinchcliffe
Really?
joe rogan
He was white like wet cardboard.
Like gray, rather.
Like wet cardboard.
Like he looked terrible.
We were backstage at News Radio and he came and he was hanging out with one of the cast members, I think.
And I think he knew Paul Sims, too.
And then I'd just see him.
This was before he died, obviously, but he was going hard.
I mean, hard.
He looked gray.
I'll never forget that.
I remember seeing him.
He's really sweaty, really heavy, and his skin looked gray, like ash.
unidentified
I was like, whoa.
Sweaty gray.
joe rogan
Like, the poor guy.
He's probably in the grips of it right there.
You know, when you think about people that get addicted to heroin, like, really get addicted, those people, they seem like they've been caught, like a demon caught them in a trap.
You know?
You gotta get that needle in your arm, son.
unidentified
Gotta get that needle in your arm and escape again.
joe rogan
Whatever they do, when they're smoking it or shooting it, it's like that drug in particular is associated with so many people just getting lost in it.
It's like it hypnotizes you and draws you in.
brian redban
Some of the best musicians, some of the best writers.
Have you ever thought about doing it once?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
You know, when I got my knee operation, they gave me a morphine drip, and it's supposed to be a similar feeling.
It was wonderful.
It was wonderful.
I kept hitting that button.
unidentified
I was like, oh, I get it.
joe rogan
I was in agony.
And I'm on this stupid machine that keeps bending my knee and straightening my knee and bending my knee and straightening my knee.
It's like a perpetual motion machine that they put you on right after surgery to keep your knee circulating.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
joe rogan
While I'm banging this thing.
Dang, dang, dang.
Just hitting that button.
Every time you hit that button, you get a squirt of morphine.
tony hinchcliffe
Did it like, do you remember anything from it?
Like what it was like, what you were thinking about or whatever?
joe rogan
Like I was just sinking into the bed.
Like the bed was just filled with love.
It was just love clouds.
Like you're just sinking in it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like your whole body is just getting kissed by God.
tony hinchcliffe
We should do a podcast on morphine sometime.
brian redban
Yeah, let's do it.
tony hinchcliffe
Get a drip?
joe rogan
It was only the one time I've done it, but I think Lenny Bruce had some God reference when he was talking about his...
Because Lenny Bruce was like a real hardcore heroin guy.
I believe they found him on the floor of his bathroom overdosed on heroin.
I think that's how he died.
But he had a quote about God and heroin.
See if you can find it.
But those, so many, like Hendrix got arrested in Toronto for heroin.
He was in heroin.
Janis Joplin was in heroin.
I think Morrison was in heroin, right?
Wasn't he?
tony hinchcliffe
I think so.
joe rogan
They were all into it.
Kurt Cobain, right?
Here it is.
What does it say?
I'll die young, but it's like kissing God.
Okay, that's where I got it from.
I'll die young, but it's like kissing God.
Wow.
brian redban
He was 40 years old.
joe rogan
The legendary quote about shooting drugs like heroin and morphine attributed to comedian Lenny Bruce.
So, my apologies for stealing his lawn.
tony hinchcliffe
Accidental overdose of morphine.
joe rogan
It was, when I was doing it, I remember thinking that I didn't even care that my knee was all fucked up and then it was going through the thing.
I was just smiling.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
That I had this stuff pumping through me.
Other than that, though, I don't think I've ever had any other experiences with opiates.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I had a wisdom tooth out once, and they gave me a whole bottle of whatever, whichever one of the things was.
I don't think it was Vicodin.
I think it was a hydroxy or a hy...
Hydrochlorone?
brian redban
Chloroform?
tony hinchcliffe
No.
brian redban
Do you have to like put on a napkin?
joe rogan
Hydroxychloroquine?
The stuff that Donald Trump really enjoys?
tony hinchcliffe
I can't remember.
brian redban
I hate Vicodin.
Vicodin sucks.
joe rogan
I think I took one of those once when I had my knee surgery too.
When I got out, they gave me a painkiller.
I can never remember if it was Percocets or Vicodin.
But I remember I sold it to this guy named Jeff.
That was at the pool hall that was always on pills, and he always would sell pills and buy pills.
He was a pill guy.
He had bandanas and long hair.
He was a Florida guy who always had shirtless t-shirts, legitimately, unironically, wearing shirtless t-shirts and a bandana with long hair.
tony hinchcliffe
Shirtless t-shirts?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a t-shirt with cut-off sleeves.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh.
joe rogan
Like the cut-off sleeves.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
He always had those on.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And he had a bandana on, like he was playing tennis, and he had long, greasy, Lynyrd Skynyrd hair.
And he sold pills.
I sold him my pills.
Because I only took it once.
I was like, I can't do this.
This is just too stupid.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, I hate that feeling.
It makes you feel stupid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I just felt dumb.
Like, I'd rather be in pain.
And then my next knee operation, I didn't take shit.
I didn't take anything.
When I got out, I just dealt with it.
But it was way less painful, too.
When they did the second one, they did it through a cadaver.
Cadaver graphs are crazy.
They take a piece of a dead guy's body and screw it into yours.
tony hinchcliffe
Where's your cadaver?
joe rogan
It's in my right knee.
brian redban
Oh, wow.
Too bad you don't get, like, adoption papers for it, you know, so you know who the person is, like a Cabbage Patch Kid?
joe rogan
Well, they say that people that get, like, organ transplants have strange memories.
tony hinchcliffe
Ooh, fuck that.
joe rogan
They think the memories are actually somehow or another contained in part—and this is complete theoretical whatever— That it's possible that memories are contained in different parts of the body like sometimes people will find they get cravings for certain things and it turns out the dead person's Heart that they have inside of them is what's asking for Butterscotch pudding.
Oh my god, you know something like real specific like all of a sudden you have a craving Yeah, it's like spicy pickles.
You're like what the fuck?
brian redban
That's weird.
joe rogan
Why am I why am I so into spicy pickles like Norman was really into spicy pickles.
That was Norman's thing.
tony hinchcliffe
I wonder if a straight guy ever got a gay guy's heart and got into trying to hook up with his buddies after that.
joe rogan
Probably.
Or the other way.
Gay guy gets a straight guy's heart and he's like, why am I sucking cock all day?
I hate it.
brian redban
Do you know they use dead bodies for crash test dummies?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian redban
Can you imagine just what that would look like, them strapped into the car and then afterwards?
joe rogan
Fuck.
Yeah.
Fuck that.
Oh, you know what I found out recently?
Ready for this?
You know that bodies exhibit?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
That we've all seen?
I've seen it in LA. I've seen it in Vegas.
Those are unclaimed Chinese bodies, and a lot of them have bullet holes in them.
brian redban
Oh, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
A lot of them are executed prisoners.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
A lot of them are just people.
They found their body dead, allegedly.
When you are watching this, when you watch those shows, like if you go to look at the exhibits at one of those body shows, If this was anywhere else other than a science museum, you would think this was a fucking serial killer.
They take people and they stretch them out.
They put them in weird poses.
They take their body and preserve it forever.
They give them a basketball and pretend they're playing basketball.
It's kind of twisted.
tony hinchcliffe
It really is.
joe rogan
They have dead babies.
There's a dead baby that's in a giant formaldehyde or whatever it is, jug, and it's just floating, a fetus.
Imagine if you went over a guy's house and you went into his basement and you're looking for the bathroom and you see a dead baby in a jar of formaldehyde.
You would get out of that fucking house as quick as you can.
You'd say, oh my god, I left my phone.
I'll be right back, and you fucking go right to the police station.
The guy's got a dead baby in a bucket in his basement.
Holy shit.
But at this place, because it's the science, oh, that's what a dead baby looks like.
And so people were wandering around looking at these pictures.
And the other day we were trying to figure it out.
I go, where did those fucking bodies come from?
How do they get so many bodies?
This is where they get it.
They get them all from China.
And they put them through this process called, I think it's called plasticizing.
I think that's what it's called.
So they basically take all of your tissue and turn it into plastic.
Like they impregnate it with plastic and some kind of resin or something.
So they can do these weird things.
So they take chunks of your arm and hack them off.
So they stretch your arm out in sections.
It's like 13, 14 feet long.
So there could conceivably be some Chinese bigwig who did not like this guy who maybe taught his wife tennis.
So he had a bullet put through this guy's brain and then had him converted into this tennis player that you could see at these bodies exhibits.
I want you to think about it that way when you look at that picture.
Show me one of them tennis players.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some of them tennis players because they have these guys like with the racket now imagine like the ultimate fuck you to your wife you you kill her mistress and you turn it into Yeah, so weird look at the basketball player click on that one Jamie look at that we should go here on mushrooms just imagine You would probably freak the fuck out.
What's the middle one?
Is that a ping-pong player?
The middle one on the bottom right, Jamie?
That one, yeah.
Is that guy playing ping-pong?
Oh, baseball.
He's catching.
He's catching and throwing.
Look at that.
Fuck, dude.
There's one of a guy flexing on the rings.
Now, this kind of shit.
This kind of shit is what I'm talking about.
So we're looking at a guy split in half Split down the middle.
His left side of his skull is on one side, his right side of his skull is on the other side, and then they split his chest cavity and pull his spinal cord up to the height of the head.
If you saw that in someone's house, you'd be like, this guy is a sick fuck.
But if you see it at the museum, you're like, oh, interesting.
Interesting.
brian redban
If it didn't have the fake eyeballs, I think it would be less creepy.
joe rogan
Dude, look at this one.
They took this guy and they stretched him out and cut him into sections.
Into, like, stakes.
So, like, his whole body is sectioned out over, like, 15, 20 feet long.
And that's at the Luxor.
That's in Vegas.
brian redban
Starts off with the little fillets, goes right to the wall.
joe rogan
Keep going back to those pictures, please.
Oh, it says, what does it say, Jamie?
jamie vernon
This was an article from 2006, and I'm in PR. Okay, so this is a different one.
joe rogan
It says the cadavers were traced to a Russian medical examiner who was convicted last year of illegally selling the bodies of homeless people, prisoners, and indigent hospital patients.
That is one of those.
The one that I saw, if you could Google, bodies exhibit unclaimed Chinese bodies.
jamie vernon
There's stories from that from this year, but I just went back to as far back as I could find, and this was from 15 years ago.
joe rogan
Oh, well, I'm sure they get them from a lot of shady places.
That's the point, is that they're getting these bodies from shady places.
It's weird.
brian redban
He figured out the homeless problem.
They should give him an award.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if they're just...
All the homeless went away, but these bodies exhibits are everywhere.
Like, everywhere.
tony hinchcliffe
Under the bridges.
jamie vernon
There's also multiple kinds of bodies exhibits, I guess, too, which that might be part of the issue.
I don't know who's getting them from a good place, but there's like...
joe rogan
Is the fan on in here?
It seems like extra smoky.
jamie vernon
It's on, but three cigars were just being smoked.
joe rogan
No.
Um, yeah, man, it's just I didn't think about it until I saw I don't remember why I looked it up But I looked it up and I saw it and I was like what is that?
How do you do that?
Like how do you get all those bodies?
And then when I read that they were, like once I started reading about what they're doing with the Uyghurs, the Uyghur Muslims in China, do you know what they're doing?
Dude, this is like an international tragedy that is rarely discussed in mainstream media.
They're rounding these people up and taking them to camps.
I don't know if they're re-education camps, if they're concentration camps, if they're prisoner camps.
I don't know what they're doing, but there's demand internationally for information.
Try to figure out what's happening over there.
See if you can find...
jamie vernon
I'm already looking.
Just doing that.
Just typing it in Google Image Search.
You see pictures here, but second row.
New York Times article, no such thing.
China denies.
I don't know.
brian redban
Squid Games.
joe rogan
Well, but Uyghur Muslims, if you just put up Uyghur people, so China's denying it?
Is that what they're saying?
jamie vernon
I would imagine.
joe rogan
More evidence of China's horrific abuses in, how do you say that, Xinjiang?
That's where it's supposed to be, right?
See, it's, I don't know, right?
I don't know who's telling the truth.
See if you can find a good, solid article.
Like, whatever one makes sense.
Just see if you can.
So we can know.
But the allegation that I keep hearing time and time again is that they're putting these people in camps.
But the thing is, like, one thing that we know for sure about China is they make people disappear if they're journalists, if they say unfavorable things about the government, they go after bloggers and imprison them, and people who post things on social media, they imprison them, and they also go after their billionaires.
Like, they've had billionaires just vanish.
Vanish.
They talk shit and just fucking go away.
Okay.
Data League reveals how China brainwashes Uyghurs in prison camps.
So they take them to these prison camps and I guess they're trying to convert them.
Chinese government has consistently claimed the camps in the far western Xinjiang region.
I don't know if I'm saying that right.
Sorry.
Offer voluntary education and training.
LOL. But official documents seen by BBC Panorama show how inmates are locked up, indoctrinated and punished.
China's UK ambassador dismissed the documents as fake news, of course.
Of course.
The investigator found new evidence which undermines Beijing's claim that the detention camps which have been built across Xinjiang in the past three years are for voluntary re-education purposes to counter extremism.
About a million people A million, mostly from the Muslim Uyghur community, are thought to have been detained without trial.
Dude.
tony hinchcliffe
Wow.
joe rogan
How many of those guys make it into the Luxor?
You know what I'm saying?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, where are those bodies coming from?
I don't think that.
When I was there, I was like, ooh, we should probably go to see that exhibit.
That's cool.
Now I'm going, oh my god.
tony hinchcliffe
It's like that with everything, right?
Like SeaWorld, same thing.
We went to the Austin Zoo a couple months ago.
The hottest, most dehydrated animals you've ever seen in your life.
I'm not kidding.
The first thing we saw, like, I'm not joking at all.
The first animal that we saw...
Was a monkey who was up on the shelf like they're all hiding in the shade like there's a little Shady part of each animals cage and they're all just in the shade This monkey taught itself how to put a rag in its drinking water and put the wet rag on its head and it's just sitting up on a shelf in Texas Just a hot monkey All the animals are just hot.
There's a dehydrated bear, a sleepy lion.
It was the worst zoo experience ever.
But also, it's exciting at times.
You see an animal that you like, you're like, oh, a parrot.
You forget that you're watching this delusional bear walk around in circles for five minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're in an animal prison.
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
To think that almost everything's like that.
joe rogan
Well, all zoos are.
Zoos are super depressing.
I used to have a bit about it that the only thing that isn't depressed at the zoo is the giraffes.
Because they're just like, another day with no lions.
And they're just strolling around.
They don't give a fuck.
They're the only animal at the zoo that doesn't seem remotely tortured.
They let babies feed them.
The only animal, they're so safe that if you put out leaves of lettuce, a baby can hold out a leaf of lettuce and everyone's completely sure that a giraffe won't hurt anybody.
There's no other animal like that in the zoo.
It's really kind of extraordinary when you think about it that way.
Like, you can't feed anything else unless it's from a distance.
tony hinchcliffe
You know, we went to Australia, and we went to visit the koala bear exhibit, and these things are adorable, you know?
Life tells you that koalas are like the cutest thing in the world, and they are.
joe rogan
Until...
tony hinchcliffe
As long as you keep feeding them eucalyptus leaves, the moment that the zookeeper, like, has to grab another batch or something, the koala slowly starts to turn into a bear, you know what I mean?
Like, literally, its claws come out, its grip gets tighter, Like the second, if it takes five seconds, you're basically dealing with a tiny bear.
joe rogan
So they bite and attack people?
They don't have the eucalyptus trees?
tony hinchcliffe
I don't know about bite, but it felt like, right?
How do we describe this?
brian redban
I don't know.
I wasn't there.
joe rogan
Really?
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
You slept in.
unidentified
That's right.
brian redban
I was like, fuck koala bears.
I ain't driving.
We just got off an airplane from the United States, and they were like, let's go see koalas.
I'm like, I'm going to my hotel and sleeping and taking a shower.
That's a long flight.
tony hinchcliffe
We did that too, by the way.
We all took naps, and then we went to the zoo.
brian redban
But you didn't seem happy when you came back.
You were like, those things smell like shit.
unidentified
No.
tony hinchcliffe
No, we smelled eucalyptus on us for like a month after that, because that's what they smell like.
joe rogan
See if you can get some footage.
What were you searching before?
The Uyghurs?
We got that, right?
We didn't even find koala bears attacking people.
tony hinchcliffe
You say it like we went straight from the airport to koala.
unidentified
We did!
brian redban
It was like a half hour after we landed.
joe rogan
Was it?
brian redban
Yeah, and we had a show that night.
unidentified
It wasn't?
brian redban
Yeah, it was.
tony hinchcliffe
I would never speed off to some fucking zoo.
brian redban
You did!
tony hinchcliffe
It sounds horrible.
joe rogan
How long do you think it lasted before you went to the zoo?
tony hinchcliffe
It was like three hours.
Everyone knows you have a three-hour gap any time you land at a new hotel.
You have to settle in and you have to like chill.
I don't have a rush off.
joe rogan
You don't believe it?
brian redban
No, because I remember that's why I didn't go.
I was like, are you guys crazy?
And they're like, it's koala bears.
Yeah, it's a bed and a shower.
joe rogan
Maybe it seemed like a half hour.
But you were just jet-lagged.
brian redban
Yeah, I wanted to go.
I'm not going away.
I don't care that much.
It was also an hour drive, and I was like, man, I've been sitting in a plane so long.
The last thing I want to do is drive an hour.
joe rogan
I've been told you've got to see kangaroos in real life to understand how big they are.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I've been told.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, they seem like just balls of muscle.
joe rogan
Eddie F told me a story about the first time he encountered a kangaroo.
I think he was taking a leak in someone's backyard or something.
And one of his friends yelled out, hey, get back here.
I'm fucking up the story for sure, but I remember him turning around and there was a kangaroo that was taller than him.
tony hinchcliffe
Wow.
joe rogan
They're like six feet tall.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
And built like a brick shithouse.
brian redban
I think they're cool.
They should have boxing matches that you could watch of kangaroos.
joe rogan
They don't want to box, dude.
They want to run around and fuck.
Eat grass and do whatever the fuck they do.
They don't want to box.
They're only boxing because you make them.
tony hinchcliffe
Well, I mean, fucking Jake Paul versus a giant kangaroo.
Who wouldn't buy that?
joe rogan
They try to kick your guts out.
That's what they try to do.
They literally try to kick your guts out.
brian redban
I hope Mike Tyson fights him.
joe rogan
Jake Paul or a kangaroo?
brian redban
Jake Paul.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I support that.
I don't support anybody fighting kangaroos.
They used to do it, though.
They used to have boxing kangaroos where people would go.
brian redban
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, they would go to a fair and they would box a kangaroo.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of video of it.
You watch people get fucked up by kangaroos.
Oh, this is a koala bear attacking people?
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
See, these are koalas without eucalyptus.
joe rogan
Yeah, so these are these wild little...
First of all, it's crazy how cute they are.
brian redban
They are so cute.
joe rogan
They're so adorable.
Look at those little faces.
Yeah.
Oh, that bit the person?
Oh, wow.
Oh, so they don't have the actual attack.
They just have the wound.
So he's got a bite wound.
He probably got too close.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's probably taking selfies.
People take selfies at Yellowstone.
They get launched into the air by buffaloes.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
People are so goofy when they get around nature, man.
But it's weird that, like, something so cute would be so dangerous.
Like, isn't that the, like, usually cute keeps you alive, right?
Like, babies and puppies and kittens and little monkeys and little birdies, and they're cute.
It keeps them alive.
Like, you don't want to eat little baby chicks.
unidentified
Oh, can't do that.
joe rogan
But when they're a full-grown chicken, you chop their fucking head off and start plucking.
tony hinchcliffe
It's weird.
You'll eat the full-grown chicken and you'll eat the egg, but it fits in the middle.
joe rogan
Well, the egg is...
unidentified
The nuggets?
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, baby chicken nuggets?
brian redban
That's where they're from, the nuggets.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
It's all assholes.
It's just chicken assholes, ground up.
But eggs are such a bonus.
It's like nature's bonus.
Because it's full animal protein, but nothing dies.
And they make them every day.
Like, if you have a bunch of chickens, you could literally...
If you had 20 chickens, you never have to buy food.
You could just eat eggs.
Like, if you were in a real strict, sort of fucked-up, apocalyptic-type situation, as long as you have enough chicken food, and you have a bunch of chickens...
Like, if you have, like, 20 chickens, you're probably gonna get 10 eggs, 9 eggs, 8 eggs a day.
That's a lot of eggs.
You could actually eat off of those.
brian redban
Do you still have chickens?
joe rogan
No, they all got killed by coyotes.
brian redban
I want to get chickens.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had a fire, that big fire that went through California a couple years back.
It burned down our chicken coop.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
And so we had to gather up the chickens and we put them in another chicken coop.
And this chicken coop was not sturdy.
It was a store-bought chicken coop.
The other one was built by...
I had a carpenter do it.
These fucking coyotes, they opened it up.
It was a disaster.
They killed like nine chickens.
brian redban
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
And they're like pets, aren't they?
You start kind of feeling like they're pets.
joe rogan
Well, they were real chill.
I mean, you could go up to quite a few of them.
They had different personalities.
Like some of them you can't pick up.
And other ones, they would just drop down.
You could pick them up, then you could pet them.
Like just a bunch of videos of me on Instagram walking with the chickens, petting them.
But there was a few that didn't want to be picked up.
It's all in like how much you handle them when they were little babies.
But dude, coyotes, that's like a fucking...
It's like a fast food restaurant to them.
They just like hop on the roof.
I caught them on the roof of the thing, like in the middle of the night.
I hear something, like all this sound, and I turn on a flashlight and I put it on the roof of the chicken coop and there's two coyotes just staring at me, trying to figure out how to get the chickens.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh my god.
joe rogan
It's so weird, man, because they're wolves.
They're these little small wolves that live in suburban neighborhoods.
They're everywhere.
brian redban
Are they out here?
I know my neighborhood's just tons of bobcats and bunny rabbits and hawks.
Tons of hawks.
joe rogan
We have one that's in our neighborhood.
I'm sure more than one, but one that we've seen because he's pretty distinct.
He's pretty fat.
He's been eating good.
And then we have a fox that visits my yard all the time.
He barks.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
I like foxes.
They're beautiful.
Foxes are beautiful little animals.
brian redban
And they don't really attack humans, right?
joe rogan
No.
No, they play with humans.
Foxes become your friend.
Like, no bullshit.
Like, you could take a grown fox, and if you're around it enough, and it doesn't think of you as a threat, like, they'll start treating you like a dog.
It's weird.
Like, there's a video of this little fox.
unidentified
It's Todd!
brian redban
I'm a hound dog.
joe rogan
He played me for a treat.
brian redban
Look how cute he is.
joe rogan
Like, they'll play.
brian redban
That's adorable.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
This is a wild animal that will play with you almost like a dog.
Like, look, this thing's on its back.
This guy's petting it, man.
I mean, come on.
How crazy is that that you could pet a fox?
brian redban
I love it.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
I want a fox.
joe rogan
They're weird animals, man.
unidentified
It's Finnegan!
brian redban
Oh, God.
That was a donut.
joe rogan
So this might be someone's pet.
That seems like Finnegan the fox is someone's pet.
But if you go to...
Yeah, that's someone's pet.
Finnegan the fox has a YouTube channel.
But if you go to Grizzly Man.
tony hinchcliffe
Whoa, Fox is jumping on trampolines.
joe rogan
Yeah, they play.
They're super playful, man.
If you go to Grizzly Man, Fox.
Timothy, what was his name?
Treadwell?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was that his name?
brian redban
I think so, right?
joe rogan
Was that his name, Timothy Treadwell?
brian redban
I'm Timothy Treadwell.
tony hinchcliffe
Is that the Grizzly Man?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he had a friend that was a fox that would visit him in camp.
Completely wild fox.
And they would play together, and the fox stole his hat and ran into the den.
Like, they're having fun together.
Like, the fox would, like, hang out on the roof of his tent.
brian redban
I miss this guy.
joe rogan
It's an interesting documentary, man.
If you haven't seen it, folks, see, look, the fox is hanging with him.
So if you go back a little bit, you'll see how close he is to the fox.
Because he's like, right, yeah, there you go, right there.
Look at this.
Dude, I mean, how crazy is this?
That is a wild fox who just comes up to him and is playing with him.
They're like little dogs, man.
Like, look, it's in his camp, and they hang out.
And I guess they established a relationship because he was there for months and months at a time, camping.
And he probably fed him a little bit.
But they became buds.
Like, a fox legitimately befriended him.
Kind of wild.
unidentified
It is.
brian redban
Well, it is weird with some animals.
I have a bunny rabbit that's kind of like that.
He's gotten so comfortable that he'll just jump up onto my patio and just hang out with me.
joe rogan
Oh, like a wild bunny?
brian redban
Like a wild bunny.
We have tons of bunny rabbits and stuff like that.
And there's one I feed.
I get a bunch of little carrots.
He's gotten to the point where he just comes up now to me.
joe rogan
When I used to live in North Hollywood, there was this dude who used to lie down and squirrels would come and take food out of his hands.
He would have peanuts.
But he would lie down, so he was on his back, and he would just lay there and hold the peanut up, and the squirrels would come up and grab his finger and take the peanut and run off.
Like, he had done it so often that they'd become conditioned to this guy.
So when he would go there, he would lie down so they'd know he wasn't a threat, he wasn't standing.
He would lie down on his back and just hold up peanuts.
tony hinchcliffe
Damn.
Squirrels are crazy.
There's an albino squirrel at the golf course that I play at.
Yeah.
brian redban
It's wild.
Have you ever seen black squirrels?
They're rare.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're cool.
brian redban
They're cool looking.
joe rogan
They don't know what that is.
Like if it's a regressive gene, they don't know if it's like an adaptive gene.
Like maybe like, I'm gonna fill this up.
Some places where there's like a lot of them, like maybe they survive better that way.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like they don't know.
Like why is one squirrel dark?
Is it because like they can hide at nighttime from hawks and shit?
brian redban
You ever watch that YouTuber, he's like a science guy or engineer, and he built like that squirrel thing in his backyard.
It's like a whole thing that he built, kind of like a track where they have to go through tubes, they have to climb, they have to jump, just to get to the end of it.
I forget his name, but it's...
It's an amazing video, and he has two of them, and just how smart these squirrels are.
It's like an obstacle course for them.
Look at how big this is.
His name is...
What's his name?
Mark Robber.
And it's so cool.
joe rogan
Ninja Warrior Course.
This is wild.
brian redban
Yeah, and it's amazing watching them get smarter every single day.
What they do...
100%.
Any of his videos.
joe rogan
Oh, and at the end of it, it's all to get food.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they figure it all out, and at the end of it, oh, look at all those walnuts.
brian redban
Oh, my God.
Wow.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brian redban
Mark also, if you've never watched him, he's one of the best guys on YouTube.
He also made these fake packages that he puts on people's porches, or, I mean, he puts on his porch and people steal it, and when they go home to open it up, it has, like, fart spray that pulls out and has all these cameras and GPS, and it throws glitter everywhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
It's some of the greatest videos.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I've seen that.
brian redban
Yeah.
It's pretty interesting because he really shows how many scams.
joe rogan
Glitter Bomb, Trap Catches Phone Scammer.
Yeah, that's interesting, but I'm more interested in this squirrel stuff.
That squirrel thing is pretty dope.
Does he have a background in squirrels or something?
brian redban
No, he's just in his backyard.
He noticed that there were squirrels always eating his bird feet.
And so this is the second one he's made.
joe rogan
Fort nuts.
brian redban
This one actually has computers where they have to go in and do Mission Impossible shit.
Oh, wow.
It's pretty awesome how smart the squirrels are.
joe rogan
So squirrels have to solve these problems.
brian redban
Yeah, to get to the end.
joe rogan
He doesn't even give them cracked walnuts.
How rude.
He makes them crack their own walnuts.
Come on, they're squirrels, man.
tony hinchcliffe
It's easy for them.
joe rogan
Is it?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a lot of work.
Cracking a walnut?
Is it easy?
tony hinchcliffe
For them.
joe rogan
Is it?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
Squirrels have a...
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think they have experience with walnuts.
Where do walnuts come from?
Walnut trees?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but is that what they like?
tony hinchcliffe
Squirrel's jaws are 10 times stronger.
brian redban
It's supposed to be through lasers.
Like, you know, like Mission Impossible.
joe rogan
Right.
So it has to figure out how to get through this.
Look at it.
It's got to figure out how to get over the top.
Look at him.
Look at this shit.
This is wild, man.
tony hinchcliffe
Got it.
brian redban
I get to start all over.
joe rogan
So he's got to figure out what that thing is, and then he's got to jump over it.
brian redban
See?
tony hinchcliffe
He's got it.
brian redban
Figured it out.
tony hinchcliffe
Come on.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Okay, this sucks if you're just listening.
So there's a squirrel that's going down this tube.
He's on the top of this tube climbing it, and then there's this large, flexible piece of plastic that he has to jump over, and he doesn't make it over the top.
Anyway, it's cool.
Backyard Squirrel Maze 2.0, and the guy's channel again.
brian redban
Mark Rober.
unidentified
R-O-B-E-R. R-O-B-E-R. Because he's supposed to go inside that tube.
brian redban
And he talks about the science of everything, like how squirrels, like, you know, they have, like, you know, how they spin around and how kind of like, you know, cats always land on their feet type kind of shit.
joe rogan
Do you know that if they give...
Actually, I need to find out if this is true, because I'm about to say it without knowing.
There's a thing called morphic resonance.
It's this very controversial topic that when you have a certain amount of knowledge, it's in the species.
I'm probably butchering this, but what they did to study this is they took rats through a maze on one part of the country, and when the rats solved the maze in one part of the country, they solved it quicker on the other part of the country.
It's like they think somehow the information is inside the rat library, like whatever information that rats have, like that's collective.
brian redban
Like the DNA of...
joe rogan
Not even DNA, right?
Because they're not related.
They're on a completely different size of the continent.
The idea is that somehow or another, there's like an Akashic record for rats.
There's like a knowledge database.
And as the database grows for the species, other members of the species have access to it that wouldn't have before, that wouldn't have encountered that other rat or been taught that maze.
They know how to do that maze quicker.
That might be bullshit, though.
Remember reading that and not looking into it at all just Repeating it because it sounds cool, but the idea is that When people are smarter when people learn things like as we as a species are learning things We're not just like as more people are learning things We're actually all getting smarter and we're actually all whether we realize it because we were reading books or where whether it's also because we're like gathering information and And we have access to it
because other members of our species have had access to it.
Like, I wonder if they could trace back to stone tools.
I wonder if they could figure out exactly when everybody figured out stone tools.
And was it at the same time?
Like, did one monkey person from a million years ago, like, think about it and then go, you know, I think I can kill something with this.
And then the other ones on the other side had like a light bulb pop off in their head.
And they're like, maybe the stones.
And they start chipping them to make them sharper.
I go, I wonder how similar that timeline is.
If it's just coincidence or if it's something like this rat project.
I think it's Rupert Sheldrake was the guy who talked about that.
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
You're explaining everything I was just looking at.
joe rogan
Is that accurate?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I mean, there's an article from 1983 called Sheldrake the Magician that's when he first started this stuff.
joe rogan
He was on the podcast back in the Dizze, in the second studio or third studio, whichever one it was, on Woodland Hills.
But this idea, if that's real...
It's pretty revolutionary because it's like, where's that information?
If you can statistically prove that a rat learned something quicker on the other side of the continent because a rat in New York figured it out and then the information's out there and the rat hive mined.
That's wild shit.
brian redban
It'd probably be the West Coast first, then the East Coast.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know who figured it out.
tony hinchcliffe
I think the East Coast gets up earlier.
joe rogan
East Coast rats are up earlier.
They're probably hustling.
There's more of them.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, more sewers.
New York keeps their garbage on the street.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different thing.
brian redban
Yeah, but I mean, West Coast had podcasts first, and the internet first, and East Coast were still flip phones.
joe rogan
West Coast had podcasts because we couldn't get on the radio.
Because of the way morning radio worked, if you had a morning radio show, you had to have it on the East Coast.
Because that's 6am.
By the time you start at 6am in the West Coast, it's already 9am on the East Coast.
People are already at work.
You had to be able to catch them during the commute time.
tony hinchcliffe
I never thought of it that way.
That's really smart.
joe rogan
You have to be.
The two great shows.
Number one, of course, Howard Stern.
Morning show.
The number one spot was always the morning.
Because that's when you're tired, you get in there, and he's got some raffle to have a stripper shit in your face.
That was what got people through in the morning.
If you wanted to have a show and have anybody pay attention to it, first of all, good luck.
Because when Howard Stern was running shit, from 6 a.m.
to 10 a.m., wherever it was, you were battling for second place.
And then if you got to second place, he'd attack you.
There's one slot.
So you couldn't have a radio show.
And then Opie and Anthony were in the afternoons.
And that's how they got big.
They got big in the afternoon.
They got big in the drive time when you're coming home.
And then they got on in the morning.
But that's it.
No one else is listening to anything else.
Especially when there's no internet stuff.
No one else is listening to anything.
So when everything started happening out on the West Coast, the real first West Coast guy that did podcasts was Carolla.
And Carolla did his podcast because he got kicked off the radios because he took over for Howard Stern when Howard Stern went over to satellite radio.
So when he took over, he started doing the Adam Carolla Show, which was a good radio show.
I did it.
He was really good at the radio.
And he kind of did his podcast like a radio show, which I think...
It was a little bit of a problem with some people because there were so many ads.
There was ad breaks and he would read them in the middle of a conversation.
It was done just like a radio show, which was normal for radio.
But everybody had this feeling like, well, why would you do this if you could just do whatever you want?
Like, this isn't the way to do it.
This is just a way to do it that everybody always did it this way.
But when he started doing it, then we all started realizing, like, oh.
We could just do this.
And then when I saw Anthony had his live from the compound when he was doing that shit in his basement with a green screen, doing karaoke, holding a machine gun, I was like, oh!
We could just have some janky ass setup.
brian redban
Tom Green Studio.
joe rogan
Tom Green Studio is another one.
brian redban
That was probably one of the biggest ones.
joe rogan
Way ahead of his time.
He was way ahead of his time.
He had a full-grown talk show from his living room with servers and everything.
Dude, we would follow this mound of wires that snaked through his living room into one of his spare bedrooms that they had converted into a server room.
You go there, you're like, oh my god, this is crazy.
Giant hard drives and shit.
brian redban
Yeah.
And now he does it all through his van.
Actually, he just moved to Canada, back to Canada.
joe rogan
He looted?
brian redban
Tom Green.
tony hinchcliffe
Isn't that where he's from?
brian redban
Yeah, originally, yeah.
joe rogan
He went back.
He thought there was too much freedom in America.
That's what he said.
unidentified
Too much freedom?
joe rogan
He wants to be locked down.
He wants them to force mandates on them.
He wants to bow to the government.
unidentified
Well, right before the- Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
No, he just, he loves Canada.
That's where he's from.
And he wanted to get a farm.
tony hinchcliffe
He was supposed to be the guest the Monday that the comedy store closed.
I was looking forward to having him.
We'd never had him on before.
brian redban
And I just did the weekend with him in San Diego.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
brian redban
And he was the first person to have like spray, like Lysol spray and wiping.
He would wipe down everything, bring his own microphone.
And I was like, he's...
Kind of going a little...
joe rogan
Well, he's had cancer.
He's had cancer.
I think when you've had cancer, you have a very different idea of your health.
And also, I think he's probably still vulnerable.
I know another gentleman who had cancer who just got COVID and it hit him pretty hard.
His immune system is compromised.
It's not good.
Cancer is a scary thing.
You know, to lose a ball.
Yikes.
brian redban
I think we've talked about this, but would you get a replacement ball?
joe rogan
I'd get a way bigger one.
brian redban
Yeah, I'd get one that's like a triangle or something.
joe rogan
I'd get one where everybody would get nervous.
Like, if you see me in the shower, you'd be like, what the hell is going on?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One like a baseball.
Just a giant nut.
That's what I would get.
brian redban
Do you have enough sack for that?
I mean, Ari does.
joe rogan
I'd stretch it out like an old stripper.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know when they get like triple E tits?
They don't start out with triple E's.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
Just keep getting bigger and bigger implants.
tony hinchcliffe
Get a cadaver graft for your ball sack.
Stretched out.
brian redban
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want it empty.
I would want it to be like a fidget spinner or something.
joe rogan
They do that with dogs, you know.
They give them fake balls.
I'm like, the dog has no idea what you're doing.
tony hinchcliffe
After it gets neutered, they do that?
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh my goodness.
joe rogan
Not all dogs.
Most dogs, they don't.
But they do have an option available.
If you would like to get some fake nuts, they'll put fake nuts in your dog.
So he wakes up, what happened?
Dog's probably hyper-aware.
Dog can probably smell the silicone bags that are next to his dick.
He's probably like, what has this guy done to me?
He tells me I'm going to be a good boy.
He gives me a treat.
Next thing you know, I'm unconscious.
My nuts smell like plastic.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
It's like having a toy attached inside your nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's like, where did my boners go?
brian redban
They make a squeaky noise when he bites it.
joe rogan
When other dogs bite it.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
tony hinchcliffe
It's fun.
brian redban
My dog just had to get all her teeth pulled out.
joe rogan
Oh no.
brian redban
Yeah, Shih Tzus have bad teeth, really bad teeth.
tony hinchcliffe
All of them?
brian redban
All of them except her two canines.
joe rogan
Did they rot out?
brian redban
Yeah, they just started, I mean, rotting.
And I guess it's like normal for Shih Tzus.
We got them cleaned all the time, but every time we get them cleaned, they're like, you gotta get those three removed.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian redban
Yeah, it kind of sucks.
joe rogan
Do you have to give them wet food now?
brian redban
No, because I guess dogs have such strong gums that they just use their gums like teeth.
They just naturally...
joe rogan
So you give them hard food?
brian redban
Right now, we're just cooking food for, you know, like soft chicken and stuff like that.
Rice, egg.
joe rogan
Aww.
brian redban
But, yeah.
joe rogan
Cooking for your dog.
People do that.
There's, like, dog cooks out there.
brian redban
I went to a dentist recently, and I haven't been in a few years, and it's amazing the technology now in dentists.
Like, you know how they used to have to take photos, and you put the thing in your mouth, and, like, you had to bite down?
Now it was literally, like, a thing that looked like a toothbrush, and they just got, like, a whole 3D scan of my mouth, and you can immediately know where the, you know, cavities are and stuff.
joe rogan
Whoa.
brian redban
It's pretty cool going to the, like, the technology in dentists now.
It's pretty amazing.
joe rogan
Have you heard of mewing?
brian redban
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
There's this thought that the reason why people's jaws are shrinking, as you look at people from the olden days versus today, is that we don't chew hard enough food.
And that's the same reason why people's teeth are all smushed in together.
You're smushed in together because the bones of your jaw are actually getting smaller.
And this guy has this theory that if you work out those bones, you can actually get them to expand and grow.
And he's got a method called mooing.
I think his name is Mike Mew.
Is that his name?
His name is Mew.
brian redban
He caught it after himself.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's what it is.
So it's like you press your tongue.
I think you press your tongue against the roof of your mouth.
John Mew.
John Mew.
Yeah.
He lives in England.
I'm gonna try to get him on here.
But apparently it works.
And if you do it over a long enough period of time, it's just like building up anything else.
Like we used to think that the structure of your face was determined By birth.
And it is.
It definitely has a big factor in genetics.
That's what it looks like.
But you can strengthen that area over time.
And he thinks that you, in some cases, I think, and I don't want to put words in his mouth, you can avoid braces.
Because I think you can actually change the jaw, like change the way it's...
You know, some people have, like, little tiny jaws.
brian redban
Weak chins.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
I hate it.
joe rogan
I think the evolutionary idea of this, and I could fuck this up, is that those people, there was too many generations where they didn't have to work hard to chew their food.
So, like, if you go back to, like, cave people, I'm sure they had big-ass jaws.
Like, I was looking at this Neanderthal skull that they had on display.
It was Neanderthal versus human, and they were talking about evolution, and you look at the Neanderthal skull, like, Jesus Christ.
Because, like, they probably didn't cook very many things.
You know, it was probably when they had fire, they used...
I don't even know if they knew how to control fire.
I think they did.
But they're probably more primitive than Homo sapiens, and they probably killed a lot of shit.
The women hunted, too.
That was another surprising thing they found about the female Neanderthals.
They were pretty fucking strong, like almost as strong as the men.
And they think they did a lot of the hunting.
Because they found them with a lot of the same injuries, like broken legs and broken arms and shit.
A lot of these injuries they got from, you know, getting kicked by game they're trying to kill.
brian redban
It's probably just a bunch of domestic violence back then.
Like the guy just beating the shit out of him.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up!
joe rogan
Probably a lot, right?
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
There's domestic violence in 1960s movies.
In 1960s movies, even good guys would smack their wife in the face.
brian redban
Oh yeah, to the moon.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
That meant something totally different.
joe rogan
To the moon, Alice.
He really was going to hit her.
tony hinchcliffe
What's that from?
joe rogan
The Honeymooners.
Jackie Gleason.
To the moon, Alice.
He would threaten to hit his wife.
brian redban
All the way to the moon.
joe rogan
Watch movies where the good guy in the movie would smack a woman in the face.
Normal.
Like The Hustler.
In The Hustler.
Paul Newman.
Doesn't he smack...
Piper Laurie in the face?
I think he does.
brian redban
There's so many movies, though, like, even, like, you know, like, back in the day, like, the Christmas movies, and, like, that guy, where you're either smacking women like it's normal shit, though.
It's kind of hilarious, because back then, it totally...
joe rogan
Oh, James Cagney.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, James Cagney used to smack the shit out of women in movies.
You just smack them, smack them in the head over and over and over again.
Steve McQueen and Ally McGraw.
There's a horrendous scene where Steve McQueen is outside of a car with Ally McGraw.
I think if I'm not mistaken, I think they were dating or married at the time they're in a relationship and There's a scene where he has to hit her and he fucking really hits her like multiple times and apparently she didn't know he was gonna do it Yeah, and if you watch the scene It's crazy.
Joey Diaz turned me on to it.
And I was like, what?
He goes, you gotta see this.
He beats the fucking shit out of her.
It's the craziest thing because he tried to put it in the context of 2021 and watch it.
You can't imagine that this could ever actually happen in a film.
Like if The Rock and Emma Blunt are in a movie and The Rock is beating the fuck out of Emma Blunt.
You would be like, what?
unidentified
What?
What?
joe rogan
Is that a person?
Emma Blunt?
Emily.
Emily Blunt.
Yeah, I'm confusing.
Emma.
Who's Emma?
There's an Emma, too.
Emily Blunt is the lady with the big eyes, right?
The what?
unidentified
Jungle Cruise.
brian redban
Have you seen The Many Saints of Newark yet?
joe rogan
No.
Did you see it?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
How is it?
brian redban
I don't want to.
Well, you know, it seems like it's- I don't want to.
joe rogan
It's not a good way to respond right away.
brian redban
No, no, no.
You know what it is?
It's really good, and it's great if you love Sopranos, but it seemed like it was a lot of buildup, and then it just, it kind of, like, it seemed like it should be a series, or it should be a second movie.
joe rogan
Maybe that's what it is.
brian redban
I think it is, because it feels like it is.
You know, like it's, yeah.
It got to a point where you're just like, ah.
joe rogan
I bet it's a pilot.
brian redban
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why not, right?
If it does well, and then Netflix picks it up.
brian redban
Joey's so great in it, though.
joe rogan
Joey's an amazing person.
He's an amazing person.
tony hinchcliffe
I loved it.
It's filled with things.
As long as you're still fresh on your Sopranos knowledge of characters and stuff, it's really, really cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
New Jersey has a vibe all of its own.
It really does.
And that's one of the reasons why The Sopranos were so unique, because it was so New Jersey.
It was like, that show put New Jersey and Italians on the map.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
When we went to Jersey, how fun was that?
tony hinchcliffe
That was crazy.
joe rogan
We couldn't go to a pool hall in New York City because we're not vaccinated.
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
So we had to go to New Jersey to play pool.
So we went to New Jersey to eat.
So we eat at the Steakhouse.
Was it Steakhouse 85?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, something like that.
It was amazing right there across from the Stress Factory.
joe rogan
So this is what happens.
We have no idea.
We're talking to the chef.
Very nice guy.
He's telling us, are you here to see Jim Brewer?
I said, no, I think Jim moved to Florida.
He goes, no, he's across the street right now.
I go, what?
He goes, yeah, he's playing the comedy club across the street.
I'm like, I had no idea we were even across the street from the Stress Factory.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
But we're across the street from it, and Brewer is performing there.
So we go over there and we run into Brewer in the green room, like in between shows.
brian redban
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was amazing.
Get to hang out with him for a little bit, so we stayed over there for a half hour.
brian redban
Yeah, Diaz said he was bummed he couldn't come hang out that night.
joe rogan
Yeah, he couldn't make it.
He had too much shit going on, unfortunately.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, it was opening night.
Coincidentally, we were in Jersey, opening night of Saints of Newark.
joe rogan
Diaz is gonna come down here, and so when he comes down here, I'm gonna have him come down here on a Monday.
So we'll drag him over to kill Tony afterwards.
brian redban
We gotta brainwash him to move here.
We gotta take it slow.
joe rogan
We gotta wait for the club to open.
When the club's open, it'll be easier.
brian redban
Gotta go to Papato's.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
I went to that Papa Do's we used to always go to the other day.
joe rogan
I think the move with Joey is just to fly him out regularly.
I think that's the move.
I think he really enjoys living in New Jersey.
Every time I talk to him, he said he loves it.
All his friends he grew up with, he's like, some of them are mad from shit I did 50 years ago.
Get over it, cocksucker!
tony hinchcliffe
He's unbelievable in the movie.
I thought he was going to have limited roles, like in a typical Italian movie, like a throwback mafia movie.
There's usually way so many characters that you barely hear anything about.
Maybe it's just a cameo or this and that.
But he's really one of the main characters in the movie.
It's wild to see.
joe rogan
He had David Chase on his podcast.
Uncle Joey's joint.
tony hinchcliffe
I want to listen to that.
joe rogan
That guy.
You know, when they first started doing The Sopranos, it was a comedy.
brian redban
Was it?
joe rogan
Yeah, the first episode's a comedy.
If you watch the first episode of The Sopranos, it's slapsticky.
brian redban
The whole series, I just re-watched it because my girlfriend had never seen it and I wanted her to see it before we watched Saints.
So we watched all six and a half seasons in like three weeks.
joe rogan
How do you have that much time?
brian redban
Well, I just kind of like we just had it on the whole time and so I was just like oh, yeah this episode this episode this episode but My girlfriend just 24 hours a day was watching it.
joe rogan
I have yet to see the wire either I've only watched one episode Jamie just made a noise you can't say that I'll re-watch it right now.
jamie vernon
Is that good?
You can dive in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
You don't want to spoil shit for people because the ride is so fun.
joe rogan
I only watched the first episode, but it was very good.
But I don't remember why I didn't continue.
I think it was one of them times where there was just too many shows I was following at the same time.
brian redban
I haven't watched Breaking Bad yet.
joe rogan
I gave up on that after a while.
It was very good, but I gave up on it after a while.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, man.
brian redban
It really stressed me out.
joe rogan
It's a good show.
But the thing is, it's like you have too many things.
There's too many shows to watch.
Like, if you want to get things done, you can't just be streaming and binging shows all the time.
Because that's...
Although recreation is important and it's valuable, you don't...
You don't want it to rob you of your time.
And if you get too addicted to too many shows and you're watching three shows simultaneously, that's like extra hours of every night that you could be doing something creative, that you could be doing something physical, you could be exercising, you could be writing new jokes, you can't just binge too many shows.
You should binge a few, you should watch a few, but you gotta know when.
It's kinda like drinking.
You gotta know when it's too much, you know?
And I think with some of these shows, if you're watching like four or five shows, like I remember when I was into The Walking Dead and then The Fear of the Walking Dead came out at the same time, like, no, you motherfuckers!
And then I started getting into both of them.
So then you're looking forward to two shows every week that can get you.
tony hinchcliffe
Succession's coming back in a couple weeks.
That's a big one.
brian redban
I don't even know what that is.
joe rogan
What is it?
tony hinchcliffe
It's so good.
It's the show about the super-duper rich family that owns a cable news network.
And all the kids, who are all unbelievable actors, are trying to be the one that gets the dad's company.
And he's an unbelievable actor.
Logan, or no, I can't remember his name now.
But it's just unreal.
I mean, it's destroying at the Emmys.
That's Macaulay Culkin's little brother right there.
He absolutely kills it.
That's the guy from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, top right.
joe rogan
Is that bottom guy, is that his name?
Is it Albert Finney?
What is his name?
What is that guy's name?
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
He is the most interesting man to watch act.
I mean, he is killing it.
joe rogan
I feel like I've seen him in shit before.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, he's in a bunch of different things.
joe rogan
I know, but I don't remember his name.
tony hinchcliffe
This is like his Sopranos.
joe rogan
Cast?
tony hinchcliffe
Brian Cox.
joe rogan
Brian Cox, that's it.
There you go.
Yeah, that guy's been in a gang of things.
tony hinchcliffe
But this is his, like, main character.
He's so good at this.
joe rogan
This better be good, Tony.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Don't lie to me, bro.
jamie vernon
It's not the wire, but it's good.
joe rogan
Did you, it's not The Wire, but it's good?
Alright, should I go to The Wire first?
jamie vernon
I'll be honest with you, now that The Wire's been off TV for 15 years, it gets a little dated, because the first two seasons they're using pagers still, and there's pay funds involved.
So if you can remember what that world was like, then you can put yourself back there, but it's still good.
joe rogan
I can remember.
But if I watched it with my kids, I'd be like, what the fuck is going on?
jamie vernon
You'd have to explain to them why they're running to the corner to use a...
joe rogan
You'd have to explain pagers.
You'd have to explain phone calls that come in through payphones.
That was a big thing.
Guys would wait by payphones for a call.
And they would, can't use this, man.
I'm expecting a call.
That was a deal.
It was a thing.
Like, you would, like, have to get in an argument with a guy.
Like, I gotta make a phone call.
Like, I'm waiting on a call.
Like, you literally could, because there was no call waiting on payphones.
Like, this is crazy.
unidentified
Star 67. No.
joe rogan
Star 69 is when you call someone back.
unidentified
Star 67 blocks your number.
brian redban
Wasn't there a star 71?
jamie vernon
Star 70 would block call waiting from ruining your phone call.
You'd have to type that in when you didn't want your America Online to get disconnected from a phone call, too.
unidentified
Oh, right.
joe rogan
The old days.
brian redban
You've got mail.
joe rogan
People never know what it's like to watch all this emerge.
That's one of the interesting things.
We're the first generation that had no cell phones, no internet, grew up without it, and then during our lifetime, as we were growing up, it evolved, and it became a part of the world.
Cell phones first.
I had a cell phone when I was 21. I had a car phone.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
With like an antenna and wires?
joe rogan
It was connected to the car.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had like a little wire that was on the roof of the car.
And you could get phone calls and you could call people from the car.
tony hinchcliffe
I bet they would drop all the time, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
But it was enough so that it was interesting.
And that's one of the ways that I got gigs.
Bill Blumenwright would know that if somebody canceled last minute, he could call me.
On my cell phone if I wasn't home and he'd get a hold of me.
I remember getting like three or four solid gigs because of that from Bloomin' Right.
He still laughs about it to this day.
brian redban
My grandfather had the one that was like in a suitcase.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, those were big.
brian redban
Those were cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Big old suitcase thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, people would walk around with a handle.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It'd be on the phone.
You look like a pimp.
Big old fucking car battery and shit with a handle on it.
You're making phone calls with a squiggly little cord.
Dude, when I was a kid, we had rotary phones.
brian redban
I love those.
I'm gonna get one of those.
joe rogan
Oh my god, if you fuck up, you have to start from scratch.
It's the dumbest thing ever.
If you're in a rush, you cannot do that.
brian redban
Yeah, like if you're trying to call the police department real quick, you're like...
Like it's almost like...
tony hinchcliffe
You have to wait for the nine to get all the way back.
joe rogan
I remember there were guys that had a thing that you could hold up to the phone, and it made a sound that allowed you to get free long distance.
Do you remember that?
brian redban
Yeah.
It was a hack, like a hack.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had like a little thing, and they would place it near the phone.
brian redban
I think it was a...
joe rogan
Freaking.
That's it.
Phone freaking.
How did it work?
jamie vernon
Some old school hacker shit.
brian redban
I think it recorded the sound, kind of what a touch tone did.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It made some sound that tricked the server, or whatever is receiving it, into thinking that you paid for long distance.
Because that was always the thing.
Are you going to pee?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trying to sneak out?
brian redban
Grab me a water.
unidentified
Okay.
jamie vernon
There's water in this jug right here.
unidentified
Hey, come on, buddy.
joe rogan
I remember that, and I also remember people would sell phone cards.
Do you remember phone cards?
brian redban
Yeah, remember 1-800-COLLECT? Yes.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that that's one thing that competition actually fixed?
Because people don't realize that it used to be super fucking expensive to call your friend who lived like in the other part of the state.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like if you called your friend, you had a 617 number and your friend had a 508 number or a 412 number or whatever the fuck it is, you had a...
You'd pay.
You'd pay a lot of money.
jamie vernon
That's why cell phones probably picked up more, because everyone would be like, I'm waiting until the night or weekend to call mom across the country, and then all of a sudden just be like, well, just do it now instead of waiting, because now nights and weekends are at 7 p.m.
joe rogan
instead of 9 p.m., and Nights and weekends was a thing with regular phones, right?
jamie vernon
Cell phones.
joe rogan
Cell phones.
jamie vernon
Because it was like regular charges.
You would only have 200 minutes to use per month.
tony hinchcliffe
That's right.
jamie vernon
But then you would have $10 a month you could pay for nights and weekends.
And it would kick in at 9 o'clock.
It would be done at 7 a.m., but it would get unlimited use.
joe rogan
Did every fucking...
jamie vernon
No, it was like a selling point of whatever, like singular wireless at the time.
Oh, I remember that.
joe rogan
And now it's like, what's the worst service?
brian redban
Now?
joe rogan
Yeah, what's the worst?
brian redban
It's all pretty good, but it's...
I would probably say...
I have both Verizon and T-Mobile on one phone, and so I can go back and forth.
joe rogan
How do you do that?
You got a dual SIM card set up?
brian redban
Yeah, they have eSIMs now.
So, like, the new iPhone hasn't...
joe rogan
Are you working for the government?
brian redban
No.
No, because of the winter storm, my T-Mobile was out.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
But then I kept on seeing Verizon pop up and I'm like, if only I had Verizon I could make a phone call.
So now I'm like, have both.
Or if I'm in a city and like...
joe rogan
So let me ask you this.
How does that work?
You have two phone numbers on your phone?
brian redban
Yeah.
Two phone numbers.
I could switch back and forth or what I use is I use Verizon's phone and T-Mobile's data or vice versa depending on which is better for wherever I go.
T-Mobile's been killing it though.
joe rogan
They've been doing better than Verizon?
brian redban
I think so.
joe rogan
Is that a Texas thing or is it nationwide?
brian redban
I think it's nationwide.
The only time T-Mobile sucks is like those in-betweens, like if you're going in between big cities and stuff, you know?
But for the most part, Verizon's everywhere.
So that's why Verizon's better, like on road trips and shit.
joe rogan
So do you have to throttle back and forth between numbers depending upon whether or not you're using T-Mobile or Verizon?
How do you do the throttling back and forth?
brian redban
Well, I could either manually do it.
If I only want to use Verizon phone and data, I can switch it so it's Verizon only.
But right now, I'm getting two phone calls.
I'll get both phone calls.
joe rogan
So you get a phone call from both numbers?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you don't have to do anything about it?
brian redban
No.
It tells me if it's primary or secondary.
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
I'm jealous.
brian redban
You could do it right now.
Are you jealous?
joe rogan
Are you jealous?
jamie vernon
I mean, I have two phones, and the second one, I never carry it.
unidentified
I am very jealous.
joe rogan
I'm very jealous of that.
brian redban
Well, the only bad thing is, like, no one else has, like, not many people do this.
And so, like, Verizon, it took Verizon two weeks to figure out how to do it, like, for me.
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I would think that would be an amazing thing because, you know, I have more than one phone number, and one particularly for business, I don't want to look at that one sometimes.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And if I have one that it's only for, like, eight members of my family and friends and, you know, people that I'm really close to, like, ten.
Ten people have that number.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
That's the move.
And then you have that ten on when you just want to disconnect.
brian redban
Or if you have two families, one on the East Coast, one on the West Coast.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You've got to keep them confused with technology.
brian redban
Yep.
joe rogan
I saw a thing where this guy had a burner phone that they had cut a hole in the sole of his shoe and stuck this little tiny burner phone in his shoe for when he got arrested.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
It was Ed Manifesto.
Pull up Ed Manifesto's Instagram.
They open this guy's shoe up with a knife and they pull the sole apart and inside the sole is a burner phone.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's fucking genius.
brian redban
Everyone has cell phones in jail and prison now.
There's people on TikTok.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at this.
They're cutting this guy's shoe open.
Pull it out.
Bam.
Phone.
brian redban
Oh my god.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
Adorable.
joe rogan
Those are adorable.
That's a tiny ass little phone.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You remember when that was like the pimp thing to have the littlest phone?
brian redban
Razor.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
I had one of those.
brian redban
Have you seen the new Razor?
It's fucking sexy.
joe rogan
The new Razor's very sexy.
The old Razor's battery was good for about 13 minutes.
brian redban
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
The battery was terrible.
And the camera was terrible.
It never lasted the whole day.
Actually, I don't know about that.
Now I'm saying that, I might be lying.
Because I don't think it requires that much energy to just make phone calls.
I think the real energy is in the screen.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Like, now I'm thinking about it, I think I'm full of shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's still some of those Nokia phones that still have battery life.
They haven't been charged in, like, 20 years.
brian redban
Oh.
jamie vernon
Remember, like, a snake on them?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon
Like, it still works.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, but those Motorola's had a tiny-ass battery.
The Razr?
That was so thin.
brian redban
When Brody passed- For the time?
They were throwing all his shit away, and his family was like, hey, do you want any of this?
And I found his old Nokia phone from a long time ago.
And I'm like, man, I wish I had the charger.
And I just turned it on.
joe rogan
eBay?
brian redban
I turned it on, and it just worked.
It had one bar of battery, and I was going through it, and I downloaded all the photos he had.
These are old photos from Nokia days and stuff.
It's pretty interesting.
joe rogan
The new Razer is pretty dope.
But the thing is, you've got to commit to that Android operating system.
brian redban
Yeah.
Motorola's version of the Razer is way better.
The Flip one.
joe rogan
Better than the Samsung ones?
brian redban
The Samsung one's better than the Razer one.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
They have a new Flip that's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, the Samsung becomes a regular-sized phone, if not larger.
And then there's the two.
There's the Flip and then the Fold.
brian redban
Yeah, I got the Fold 3, which is awesome.
I love it.
joe rogan
The flip seems silly.
Is it that hard to have a regular...
I have a Galaxy.
It fits in my pocket find.
Just like an iPhone does.
It's actually a little slimmer than an iPhone, as long as it's wide.
tony hinchcliffe
What would you use that for?
joe rogan
Hang up on people like this.
Fuck you, bitch!
brian redban
It's satisfying to flip it.
joe rogan
To close it on people and go, Kirk out.
Just slam it shut.
But the fold, like Gordon Ryan has that fold.
And I was looking at it and I was like, oh man, watching movies on this would rule.
brian redban
No, it's great.
Especially on an airplane.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at the size of that goddamn thing.
When you open it up, if you just wanted a multimedia device that worked off 5G internet, how do you get better than that?
Because you can actually send text messages, you can make phone calls, video calls, you can do everything you can with a phone, but it's big like a little iPad.
brian redban
Yeah, I love it.
joe rogan
If you just want something that you take with you to like watch movies or listen in to, you know, podcasts and also scrolling the internet simultaneously, because you could have, like with those, you could have window and window, like two different separate windows.
One side of it could be your email, the other side of it could be your notes.
brian redban
Have you seen what Samsung's waiting on, or making next?
It's a one where you pull apart, you know what I'm talking about, Jamie?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, scroll.
brian redban
Now that's the future.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're going to pull out a scroll.
brian redban
That's the future right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going to be like a cigar, and you're just going to unravel it.
brian redban
And there's no creases because of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What is this one?
brian redban
That's it.
joe rogan
Galaxy Z-fold scrolling design.
Yeah.
So just pull it apart.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's one size, and then it pulls apart.
Okay, this is it.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the shit right there.
That's the move.
Look at that.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian redban
I love it.
joe rogan
That it can do that?
That's pretty fucking incredible.
jamie vernon
Where's the missing screen hiding?
joe rogan
It's on the back.
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
I mean, like, so when it's small here.
joe rogan
It rolls up to the back.
brian redban
It rolls up into, yes.
joe rogan
It's like paper.
You see the back?
Yeah, so that's the space.
That back crease, which is kind of cool because they made it like a funky design.
When is that coming out?
brian redban
It should be coming soon.
I would probably say spring of next year.
joe rogan
Watch this.
Oh, shit.
Whoa!
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
That's the move.
See, Apple have that five years later.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what Apple does.
They wait until all these Android phones come out with the coolest ideas.
But there's still a lot of shit.
jamie vernon
It'll work then.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
It'll work then when it comes out.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
Androids don't work?
brian redban
No.
unidentified
Racist.
brian redban
Apple just likes to perfect it.
jamie vernon
In three months you'll find out the pencil goes through the middle of it and they've got to put out a new version.
brian redban
Joe, have you talked about, I have a feeling I already know what you think about this, but have you talked about Amazon's new stuff that's coming out, their security robots and their drone planes for your house?
Have you seen these yet?
Oh no.
joe rogan
No, I haven't.
I'm aware of it, but it's not good.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The demise of privacy is inevitable.
brian redban
And it's mapping out your house, like video and stuff like that.
I can't wait to get the robot though.
joe rogan
Well, you know, they've already, like, used those Amazon things, those boxes in your house.
What are those things?
What are they called?
unidentified
Echoes.
joe rogan
Echoes.
Alexa.
unidentified
Alexa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They've already used those, like, for murders.
For murder cases.
They've got a hold of the recordings, because it's recording 24-7.
brian redban
For Amazons?
Because I know Ness works with the police department.
joe rogan
No, no, no, not Nest.
tony hinchcliffe
They're all owned by the same thing now.
Amazon bought Nest.
Who bought Nest?
joe rogan
Okay, but we're not talking about the same thing.
We're not talking about a security system.
We're talking about those little home things where you say, Alexa, turn the lights off.
Well, Alexa's listening.
And if you kill your wife, Alexa knows.
So apparently, they solved a murder.
Amazon's Alexa may have witnessed alleged Florida murder, authorities say.
Adam Richard Crespo is charged with murdering connection to the July death of his girlfriend, Sylvia Galva.
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Imagine if they called Alexa to the stand.
joe rogan
What year is this?
tony hinchcliffe
Sorry, can't play the Eagles.
jamie vernon
Two years ago, 2019 November.
joe rogan
Okay, yeah, this is a story.
jamie vernon
I think they needed to get the audio because there was an argument they could have heard.
joe rogan
But that's one of those things where people buy one of those.
They do not know that that thing's recording you all the time.
brian redban
You can turn it off.
joe rogan
It's recording you all the time.
You might be able to turn it off.
brian redban
I think you can turn it off.
joe rogan
But they've proven with Pegasus that they can have your iPhone recording you when it's off.
When it's off, it can record you, it listens to you, it tracks your whereabouts.
Just because you think it's off doesn't mean it's off.
Your screen is off.
So if they hijack your phone, they figure out how to get it so that your phone is recording everything you say and sending your location while you think it's off.
You're like, yeah, fuck the government.
I'm going to turn my phone off and have this fucking conversation about Bitcoin.
unidentified
What you're doing is you're talking to the NSA. I like the drone and the robot idea, though.
brian redban
Like, say, like, hey, did I forget to turn off the oven?
Now you could have, like, this thing deploy into your house, go up to the oven with, like, cameras and, like, see if you're, you know, and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going to be convenient.
That's what's going to allow them to get into your life.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Robots are going to be 24-7 monitoring us.
unidentified
I don't know if I'm comfortable with that.
brian redban
I'm balls deep in it.
joe rogan
I know.
unidentified
Well, you are.
brian redban
That thing's the best.
joe rogan
You're always my canary in a coal mine when it comes to adoption of new technology.
brian redban
I'm going to get vaccines for my robots, too.
unidentified
Robber.
joe rogan
Yeah, Brian is always ahead of the curve with this shit.
brian redban
Yeah, I pre-ordered these.
joe rogan
Well, when you're watching your own home from a distance, that is a benefit.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can see and record everything that's happening inside your house when you're not there.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
If someone breaks in, you literally get an alarm.
But the thing is, try calling the cops now.
If you're living in L.A., they're going to go, well, what do you want?
What do you want us to do?
They don't even go, they're like, you're not home?
Oh yeah, we're not going to do anything about that.
brian redban
Do you hear what just passed in Texas, the same thing, where like if there's like a whole list of like 10 things where they're not going to send cops anymore.
joe rogan
That's Austin.
unidentified
Yeah, Austin.
joe rogan
In Austin, yeah.
Yeah, not good.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
No, that's good.
It's interesting.
I had a gentleman on the other day who wrote a book called San Francisco.
Jamie?
unidentified
Michael Schellenberger.
joe rogan
Michael Schellenberger, that's what I said.
Michael Schellenberger, and he was bringing up a very important statistic that seems counterintuitive, but the best way, he said, to increase police brutality is to lower the amount of police.
So the best way to decrease police brutality is to have more police.
He goes, when you have understaffed police department, they're overstressed, and they're more threatened, and they feel like they're more in danger, and they're more likely to act aggressively.
tony hinchcliffe
And there's less backup on the way, too.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Not forgiving them.
This is not forgiving them.
This is just a scientific observation.
Ben Shapiro said the exact same thing.
It's like, if you want to fix terrible neighborhoods, what you should do is radically increase police presence.
tony hinchcliffe
Well, I just read that October 18th or something like that is a deadline for Seattle police to get vaccinated, and it's looking like they're going to lose 40% of their force.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
brian redban
Austin should hire them all.
joe rogan
Holy shit, is that crazy?
tony hinchcliffe
So it's a ticking time bomb.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
Seattle could fire 40% of police force over COVID-19 vaccine mandate.
brian redban
That's ridiculous.
tony hinchcliffe
It's less than 10 days away.
joe rogan
It really is almost like we are being attacked with some sneaky way of justifying something that completely ruins airline travel, hospital staff, police staff.
I know there's a thing going on with firemen as well.
I know a friend of the family who is a fireman who is dealing with an issue like that in California.
It's crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
The heroes, supposedly, right?
joe rogan
Well, not only that, a lot of those folks have survived COVID. They got the natural antibodies, which are, again, six to 13 times stronger than what you get from the vaccine.
And this is not disputable.
This is not tinfoil hat conspiracy.
This is hard science.
They know that it's very robust and that it may last much longer.
They don't know how long it lasts because it's only been around for a year and a half, right?
But they do know that it lasts and that it's superior.
And they're pretending it doesn't exist.
They're pretending.
It's like this is madness.
Like they're just mandating that people do this one thing, one size fits all.
And it's the only time ever we can imagine that that's happened.
Like they would not do that if it was chicken pox.
If you've already got chicken pox, you don't need a vaccine.
If you've already had whatever disease, as long as your body develops natural antibodies for it, it's always been understood that you don't need to get vaccinated for that.
Now they're pretending it doesn't.
And I don't want to even speculate why, but it's not rational and it's one of those because I said things.
Because if there's no science behind it, it becomes E. Why do I have to do that?
Because I said so.
That's what it seems like.
It seems like because I said so.
It doesn't seem rational.
If there's this clear line in the sand, a lot of those nurses got COVID, and they risked their lives in the early days of the pandemic.
They're working with shitty equipment, shitty PPE. PPE or PPP? PPE. PPE, right?
Which one?
PPP is the loan?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Protection equipment.
Shitty masks.
Some of them didn't have any masks.
Our lady, our nurse that works with us, she told us in the beginning they told them not to wear masks because they didn't want to alarm people.
So all these people got COVID, including her, hanging around with all these COVID patients with no masks on.
And then they tell them they have to get vaccinated or they're going to lose their job.
These people literally risk their lives.
In a rare instance, I mean...
Taking care of people that are sick is always dangerous, right?
There's always the chance that you could catch some disease if you are in an emergency room or you're working with infected patients.
There's always all kinds, with flu, everything, all kinds of diseases.
But this is a rare one.
Where it's super contagious.
It's spreading across the whole country.
Everyone's paranoid about it.
And you're telling these nurses they don't even have to wear masks and don't wear masks.
It'll freak people out.
That was the early days.
So they got through all of that.
And then after they developed natural immunity because they got infected, they have antibodies.
You could show with a blood test.
They're still telling them they have to take a shot no matter what.
You want your job?
Because I said so.
tony hinchcliffe
I went down a rabbit hole.
It's called people posting their L's or whatever.
You know how they've been saying that lately?
That's a thing.
Posting your L means that you accidentally put out on the internet something that contradicts something that you're into.
There was a bunch.
The main theme of this one page of them that I found was...
People posting in mid-2020, like, I'll never take a vaccine administered that was built during the Trump administration.
This president's crazy, right?
And then, like, all the tweets that are their L's are, like, six to eight months later, which is basically, like, anybody who isn't vaccinated is against human nature.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I hope they die.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
One somebody posted, free healthcare is a right.
It should be for everyone.
And then eight months later, anybody who's not vaccinated doesn't deserve to be able to visit a hospital.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's one of those things where people become the other.
We're going back to what we talked about earlier about we have these deeply ingrained tribal instincts.
And once we get on a tribe, when they're saying that, like the vaccinated shouldn't have access to healthcare, what they're doing is they're signaling to their tribe, who are the people that also took the vax, the good people.
They're signaling to their tribe that they feel this way, and we're gonna fight off those outsiders.
We're gonna, like, deny them healthcare, fuck them, cast them out of society.
It's a natural instinct.
It's a terrible, terrible instinct.
And it's literally how people have survived When they lived in tribes and they had to treat these people that were in these other tribes as a danger to their livelihood and to their family and to their safety.
That's what we thought about other people.
So we have this ingrained tribal instinct and people are applying it to vaccines.
So they're putting their faith in pharmaceutical companies.
If you want to talk about the most criticized and the most disparaged aspect of our society when it comes to like the dangers That it poses to people's health.
A big one was pharmaceutical companies because they're the ones who are responsible for the opiate crisis.
They're the ones who are responsible for these drugs that have horrific side effects and they hide the data.
Forever we've been suspicious of those people.
Forever people have pointed to them as being one of the real problems with capitalism that mix with medicine.
When you mix the desire to earn unstoppable and constantly ever-growing amounts of money every year, like a universal growth corporation, with medicine, this is what you get.
You get cutting corners or Fudging data or letting things slide through.
And now all of a sudden people are like, oh, they're the best.
They're the best.
tony hinchcliffe
So weird.
joe rogan
They're looking out for us.
tony hinchcliffe
The two biggest payouts ever, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Pfizer and Johnson& Johnson.
Johnson& Johnson put cancerous stuff in baby powder.
joe rogan
I don't think that's true.
I think baby powder inadvertently caused cancer.
I don't know what that...
I don't think there was stuff in the baby powder.
I just think it was the baby powder itself.
I might be wrong.
It wasn't contaminated, right?
tony hinchcliffe
But it was talc, right?
Didn't they find out talc causes cancer?
joe rogan
But that's what baby powder is.
Baby powder is talcum powder.
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
There'd be a lot of co-cats with nose cancer.
joe rogan
Oh, they knew for decades that asbestos.
Oh, my God.
What?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Okay, so it's not just the baby powder.
tony hinchcliffe
They paid out two billion bucks.
joe rogan
Thousands of lawsuits alleging that its talc caused cancer.
Johnson& Johnson insists on the safety and purity of its iconic product, but internal documents examined by Reuters show the company's powder was sometimes tainted.
Okay, so it was tainted.
With carcinogenic asbestos and that Johnson& Johnson kept that information from regulators and the public.
unidentified
Oh my God, it's a horrible article.
joe rogan
Look at how it starts.
Darlene Coker knew she was dying.
She just wanted to know why.
She knew she had cancer.
How do you say that?
Methothelioma.
Mesothelioma arose in the delicate membrane surrounding her lungs and other organs.
She knew it was rare as it was deadly, a signature of exposure to asbestos, and she knew it afflicted mostly men who inhaled asbestos dust in mines and industries such as shipbuilding that used the carcinogen before its risks were understood.
Wow.
Wow.
brian redban
Is it safe now?
joe rogan
I don't know, dude.
brian redban
What do you use now?
joe rogan
I just bought a bunch of it.
I did.
I use it for a pool.
I use it to keep, when I'm playing pool, you put it in between your fingers and you slide the shaft through it easier.
Fuck!
brian redban
I wonder if Goldbahn has the same stuff.
joe rogan
I wonder how much you have to use it before you get cancer, right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
It's like they say that Tammy Faye Baker got brain cancer from Diet Coke.
brian redban
Yeah, I've heard that before.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't know where I heard it.
It might be bullshit.
I'm repeating it to millions of people.
Because there was a thing that had to do with Donald Rumsfeld.
Donald Rumsfeld, that creepy dude he used to work for the Bush administration.
That guy was a part of the pushing of aspartame through, even though there was some speculation that it could cause cancer.
But then I've read that from nutritionists, like the amount of aspartame you would have to eat, the amount of Diet Coke you'd have to drink to actually get cancer is pretty substantial.
But then again, that's like in comparison to rats.
Like they gave rats a lot.
Maybe people are more sensitive.
Don't drink Diet Coke.
Drink Zevia.
brian redban
Coke Zero.
Liquid Zero Diet Coke.
joe rogan
Don't even get started on a Diet Coke, which she consumes in such volume that she now considers it a regenerative substance.
They say the body is made up, this is in quotes, they say the body is made up of a certain amount of water.
Well, mine is made out of Diet Coke.
I am probably pickled in it and will live forever.
Well, that didn't age well.
But it's like, every now and then a Diet Coke is goddamn delicious.
I'd like one right now.
With a cigar?
Diet Coke with a cigar?
brian redban
Diet Coke sounds good right now.
joe rogan
Diet Coke is delicious.
brian redban
I like it.
joe rogan
I like it better than regular Coke.
When I drink regular Coke, I feel like I'm a naughty boy.
I'm going to crack open a regular Coke.
I can't believe I'm doing this.
brian redban
Do you like Coke Zero?
joe rogan
It's okay.
I like it too.
brian redban
They changed the formula last month.
joe rogan
It doesn't bother me.
I don't like it better or worse than Diet Coke, but there's a thing that regular Coke does to your body you feel.
You feel that sugar rush.
You're like, ooh, I shouldn't have done that.
tony hinchcliffe
I love it.
brian redban
That's all Tony drinks.
tony hinchcliffe
Love it.
joe rogan
Seeing Tony's family, they all came to watch the fight.
We watched the Fury-Wilder fight and Tony's dad and his family came.
They're all sitting there smoking.
They're all like fucking old school Ohio.
tony hinchcliffe
My father and his girlfriend at two separate times within the first minute didn't notice that the other one said it.
But I had a cigarette and they both go separately.
They go, oh, we can smoke in here?
I can smoke?
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
And they already had the pack out.
joe rogan
They had their pack in there.
We can smoke.
They're like, we can smoke.
We can smoke indoors.
They were so excited to be able to smoke indoors.
Because we were in this big green room and we had the fight on a big ass TV. They set it up.
Did you see the fight?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
It was one of the greatest heavyweight fights of all time.
One of the greatest boxing matches of all time.
Have you seen it yet, Jamie?
We can't hear you.
tony hinchcliffe
I watched it live.
joe rogan
Did you shit your pants?
jamie vernon
No, I was tired.
Long day.
So I was just sort of watching it.
joe rogan
Did you scream out at all?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
You don't scream out at things still, do you?
jamie vernon
I will on occasion, but I have to be real riled up.
tony hinchcliffe
Buckeyes stuff, right?
jamie vernon
It depends, really.
I'll be honest.
I'm trying to think the last time I did.
Actually, something happened.
I screamed on occasion.
brian redban
When Kanye and Kim got divorced?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
They're fine.
joe rogan
When Kim showed up with that crazy mask on.
brian redban
No!
joe rogan
Dude, that fight had us screaming.
We were screaming.
Oh, my goodness.
We had an awesome watching party.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it was Phil, it was Laura Bites, and it was Tony and I. Jimmy Batullo.
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Joe Marsco.
joe rogan
All these friends of Tony's and Tony's family, and it was fucking amazing.
You know, there's something about watching fights with a bunch of people.
It's very festive.
You know, when everyone's screaming and cheering on, it's like it's more exciting.
It's like you got a small crowd.
It's almost like you're watching it live.
I mean, you are watching it live, but you're almost like watching it in a small crowd.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
And it was cool because, like, we'd go to a lot of cities on a lot of different nights.
There's never a boxing match like that.
Like, we don't ever really do a viewing party like that.
But it was so fitting that we were, to me, that we were an hour away from Youngstown, which is like a real boxing city.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
You know, Boom Boom and Kelly Pavlik and all those greats.
That came out of there.
joe rogan
Well, it's just be able to watch that fight live.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
And to catch it live.
Because it was so good.
It was so crazy.
It was so action-filled.
I mean, it was fucking amazing.
From Tyson Fury knocking Wilder down early to Wilder looking like he was done with his right hand.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He had Tyson Fury on Queer Street.
Look at how that punch...
unidentified
Queer Street?
joe rogan
Look at how that...
That's what they call it.
Because you don't know what's going on.
It's odd.
It's a word for odd.
It's an old saying.
It's nothing to do with gay folks.
Look at this.
Boom.
Look at this punch.
Look at the fat.
Watch this fat ripple.
brian redban
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Look at that ripple.
unidentified
That's crazy.
brian redban
All the way down.
joe rogan
Bro, that's how hard Deontay Wilder punches.
Let me see that again.
Because that is...
There's maybe one or two other humans that have ever lived that can punch as hard as this guy.
He's, without a doubt, one of the hardest punchers of all time.
So he smashes Tyson Fury while he's getting his ass kicked.
Smashes him with his right hand in the fourth round.
Look at that fat roll down.
Look at that fat.
Look at it roll down.
I mean, that's the shock waves that ripple through his head.
Most human beings right there are going out.
Most human beings.
And then he hits him again and clubs him to the ground there.
Hit him behind the ear.
He's a murderous puncher.
But the level of skill Was so evident.
The difference is Tyson Fury is a masterful boxer.
I mean, he's masterful.
The shit that he did was amazing.
And his strategy was amazing.
Just stay glued to Deontay, wear on him, hang on him, make him work, and just drag him deeper and deeper and deeper into these fucking horrible waters filled with crocodiles.
That's what he did.
And almost got knocked out doing it.
That's how dangerous Wilder is.
Wilder is like the opposite of Usyk.
Like, Usyk is like this insane boxer who's like this insane footwork in motion.
And Wilder kind of looks awkward at times, but if he hits you once, you're fucked.
Even if you're one of the greatest boxers of all time, like Tyson Fury.
He's without a doubt one of the greatest heavyweight boxers ever.
Six foot nine, 277 pounds, and Lightning fast.
For a guy that big, he moves so well.
He moves, his jab's incredible.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, isn't it crazy, Destiny?
What are the odds that that guy, who could be Paul Jenkins or Mike Smith just as easily, his name is Tyson Fury.
A heavyweight god is named Tyson Fury.
What are the odds of that?
joe rogan
It's amazing.
tony hinchcliffe
Like, Mike Tyson...
One of the goats.
Fury.
6'9".
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Crazy.
joe rogan
Greatest name of all time.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
That's like a great comedian.
Literally, his parents named him, like, Funny Pants Smith or something.
brian redban
Joe King.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
Hey, we know a Joe King.
joe rogan
Well, his whole family was into fighting.
Like, he was learning how to box from the time he was a small, small boy.
Like, he's always knowing how to box.
Deontay Wilder didn't even take up boxing until he was 19.
And Deontay Wilder won a bronze medal in the Olympic Games a year and a half after boxing.
Wow.
He's a special talent.
Just insane power.
But the difference in the level of understanding of where to be and where not to be, how to move, how to faint, and how to draw reactions and set traps, the difference is out of this world.
But Deontay hits so hard, it almost didn't matter.
It almost didn't matter that Tyson Fury was so much more skillful and so much slicker, with so much more experience.
Tyson Fury hits so fucking hard that it almost didn't matter.
tony hinchcliffe
My dad's girlfriend had her head in her hands after that round where Fieri got knocked down twice.
unidentified
It was crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
She felt bad for this guy that was getting beat up on.
And I touched her shoulder and I go, that guy's gonna come back and win this fight.
And she goes, really?
joe rogan
You might have been wrong.
tony hinchcliffe
I could have easily been wrong, but...
joe rogan
Now you're talking shit.
tony hinchcliffe
Now I know what the hell's going on.
joe rogan
You didn't know jack shit.
No one knew jack shit in that fight.
When he got dropped, we all thought it was over.
I was like, oh my god, he's fucked.
Because he got hit hard.
You could tell.
Like, when he got up, he was not really there.
And then when he got clubbed in the back of the head and fell down again, or behind the ear and fell down again, I was like, oh my god.
But then he came back.
He did come back.
The craziest comeback ever was him in the 12th round of the first fight.
That was the craziest.
That's nuts.
That didn't even make sense.
But there was some controversy about this fight.
And one of the controversies was the extremely long counts when Tyson Fury went down.
Cormier believes Fury benefited from crazy slow count.
That's right.
After being knocked down by Wilder.
Daniel Cormier believes the referee made a bad call in the fourth round vs.
Fury vs.
Wilder 3. Well, he's correct.
This is what happened.
The count is supposed to, the referee is supposed to go one, two when the guy goes down, but if for any reason he has to interrupt the count because the fighter, the opponent needs to be told to go to the neutral corner, You're supposed to pick up the count where the ringside counter has it.
So there's a guy who's counting ringside, and he'll keep the count going.
So if you're at one, two, and then you're like, go to a neutral corner, that guy's supposed to be like three, four, five.
brian redban
As it should.
joe rogan
But he didn't.
He went back to it.
Three, four, but the guy had already been down for a couple seconds.
Without a doubt, it was a long count.
brian redban
That's bullshit.
That's the problem with boxing though.
That's what people have a problem with.
That's like considered kind of like bullshit.
joe rogan
It's one of two things.
It's either a mistake and the guy made an error or maybe there's a...
I don't think there's a different law in Vegas.
I don't think the law...
I don't think there's a rule that allows them to do that.
I think it's an error or corruption.
Most likely an error.
Most likely the guy's panicking.
He's in this huge fight.
I don't know how many big high-profile fights.
I'm not that well-schooled on boxing referees.
I know a few of them.
I used to know more of them back in the day, but I know a few of them.
I don't know if I've seen that guy work before.
So I don't know if he's panicking.
But boxing's got a lot of...
brian redban
There should be somebody overseeing him, though, that goes, hey, you can't do that.
joe rogan
Exactly.
There should be a thing that's loud as a guy goes down.
Here's my take on it.
It shouldn't be up to the referee to count.
It shouldn't be, he can go, one, two, three, or he can go, one, two, three, Two!
It shouldn't be that.
There should be a count.
It should be 10 seconds, and there should be like a LCD screen, and when a guy goes down, it starts at 10. And when he, you know, when it gets to, or it starts at 1 or 0, whatever.
tony hinchcliffe
I feel like Japanese or Chinese, they do that, right?
Something like that.
I feel like I've seen that before.
joe rogan
In what?
In boxing?
tony hinchcliffe
I think.
I feel like it's a different thing.
It's like a loud over the one, but it's like Chinese words or whatever.
joe rogan
Well, I know they've done that on some boxing telecasts where you hear the ringside count.
I know that for a fact.
And I know guys have picked it up at five, six.
But in this case, there was without a doubt like a gap where he was directing some stuff inside the ring and then he came back and picked up the count.
So it was definitely long.
The question is, could Fury have gotten up?
Maybe, but could he have gotten up two seconds earlier, three seconds earlier, whatever the extra count was, and could Wilder have jumped on him and hurt him again?
Yeah, that's possible too.
You don't know.
When a guy gets that hurt, if you give him any extra time, it's a bonus.
Any three seconds, four seconds, that makes a big difference.
That's between the world spinning and all of a sudden the world's not spinning anymore.
tony hinchcliffe
I noticed that ref kept doing that.
Put your gloves up.
Now walk towards me with your gloves up.
And then he would wipe the gloves like he did at each free.
At least he kept it sort of consistent.
joe rogan
That's standard.
That's standard.
Because you've got to find out if a guy goes down and then you go, put your gloves up, walk towards me, and he walks towards you and he starts stumbling, stop the fight.
Because you don't know.
It's just guesswork.
And it's all subjective, right?
One referee will stop a fight when a guy is getting fucked up.
And another referee will let it go.
There's a lot of referees who would have stopped this fight earlier.
There's quite a few referees where when Tyson Fury was battering Deontay Wilder, they would have stopped the fight.
And this was Wilder's argument about the second fight when he did get stopped.
He felt like he could have kept going.
Judging by this fight...
He probably is correct.
He probably could have kept going.
But he might have gotten knocked out there.
But he could have kept going.
In this fight it looked like in that one round, I think it was the second, where Tyson Fury dropped Deontay Wilder and he barely survived and he made it to the end bell.
What if that was the beginning of the round?
Who knows?
You never know.
So could he have gone on from the second fight when they stopped the fight?
Probably.
Maybe it was for his health that his corner threw the towel and stopped the fight.
Maybe they know him and they know how tough he is.
That's what you see in this fight.
You see how fucking tough he is.
How much pain and how much punishment he endured and still was dangerous.
Still hurt Fury.
And still hurt him again after that, right?
He hurt him one other time later.
Didn't drop him, but hurt him.
So he hurt him on a few occasions.
But when he went out, man, he went out bad.
That's a bad knockout.
And Tyson Fury said it best.
He goes, that's the kind of knockout that can end a career.
I mean, it might not, but that was a bad knockout.
Show the knockout.
He wings a left hook, misses it, and steps in with a right hand that just spins his head around.
It was crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, hitting the mat woke him up.
He was out on his way down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And when we were watching him, we were like, this is the greatest fight I've ever seen in my life.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
So fun.
joe rogan
The thing is, it's like, does he come back from that?
He's 35. I think his trainer said he doesn't want him to even think about it.
He just wants him to do nothing but rest.
Don't even think about boxing.
Just take a rest.
You earned it.
Don't get all anxious and ramp up for the rematch because that's what he did for this fight apparently when he got beaten in the second fight and he felt like there was all sorts of controversy attached to it.
It got real ugly with the accusations.
All but accused his trainer of being involved in it.
His trainer was Mark Breland.
Watch this again.
Look at this.
Watch the end.
The left, here's the right.
Boom.
I mean, bro.
That is crazy.
That is a crazy knockout.
And in a fight, look at it one more time.
Let's see it again.
He hits him with the right hand.
He knows he's got him hurt.
Let's him go.
Left hand.
Here's the left.
Misses with the left.
Boom.
He clipped him with the left, too.
But the right was perfect.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
What a fight.
And when it was over, we were like, holy shit.
What a rollercoaster ride.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of the most exciting boxing matches of all time, for sure.
tony hinchcliffe
Hell yeah.
Crazy that a guy's 6'9 going up against a guy's 6'6.
joe rogan
6'7.
tony hinchcliffe
True heavyweight.
Yeah, crazy.
True heavyweight fight.
joe rogan
The other thing was Deontay Wilder was 238 for that fight, which is the heaviest of his career.
He was 209 for their first fight.
Wow.
Yeah.
And it's like, you know, is that good?
Is it good to put all that extra weight on?
Like, maybe.
Maybe it helped him fight him off.
Maybe it hindered his movement.
If you could teach Deontay Wilder footwork, like real footwork, how to bounce and move and slide in, slide out, and not be awkward at all, to be slick.
God, with that punch, it's almost like the punches, it's almost like it hinders a fighter in a certain way to have that kind of power.
Because you know all you have to do is hit a guy.
So all you're thinking about doing is hitting him.
And it worked 41 times.
He's knocked out 41 guys.
Or 40. I think he's like 41. Yeah, he had one decision.
Out of his 41 victories.
Which is crazy.
That's the craziest record in the history of the sport.
There's not a single guy that's knocked out as many guys as Deontay Wilder has.
If you could teach that guy how to move like Tyson Fury does.
If you could teach that guy how to pretend he doesn't have any power.
Like just really develop real boxing skills.
And just almost pretend you can't break an egg.
Just be in the right position always.
And just touch people.
Just touch people.
Because he hits so fucking hard, man.
But people that have that kind of power, for whatever reason, they always, not always, but a lot of times they rely on it.
Because it's so extraordinary.
They just know that all they have to do is land that one shot.
The guys who are like the masterful boxers, they never have that, like the Julio Cesar Chavez's of the world.
He's one of the most masterful boxers ever.
But he never was like a one punch guy.
He would break guys down.
He would very rarely stop someone with one punch in the first round.
Most of the fights, it was just him just beating the shit out of people, like super technically, and he would just move in and throw shots, and every shot was coming your way, was accurate, and eventually he'd break fighters down and smash them.
But if you can get a guy like Deontay Wilder to pretend he doesn't have power, and to learn how to box like a Julio Cesar Chavez, he'd have one of the greatest fighters of all time.
tony hinchcliffe
Hell yeah.
brian redban
You see that conspiracy that's going on right now with the Brian guy that supposedly murdered his girlfriend on the flower bed?
joe rogan
What's the conspiracy?
brian redban
Somebody said this guy took this drone over their house and out of nowhere they just got all these new flower beds in their backyard, the parents of Brian.
And there's this one video where she's reaching down, and it looks like from the corner of the flowerbed, a hand picks and grabs something that she gives him.
And at first I was like, no way.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Internet sleuth claim Brian Laundrie is hiding under flowerbed.
brian redban
Yeah, and if you zoom in...
joe rogan
Where's the hand?
brian redban
Look, she like hands something.
Somebody grabs something out of the corner.
It looks like...
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Where are you seeing this?
brian redban
So, see where her hand is right now?
tony hinchcliffe
Bottom left.
brian redban
Bottom left, there's like a shadow.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Aerial drone footage.
jamie vernon
She could have been grabbing a weed or something.
brian redban
No, but it looks like she's putting something into it.
joe rogan
Raising suspicions of some who are zooming in on the patch of dirt.
Is there better footage than this?
brian redban
Yeah.
They kind of skipped over.
Here we go.
joe rogan
This is it?
All right, play this.
brian redban
Look at this.
It looks like there's a little hand that grabs something.
Like a note or something.
What?
And then they look up and see the drone.
joe rogan
Let me see this.
Hold on a second.
unidentified
The scene is like...
What is that?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hold on, let me see that again.
Can you back that up a little?
No, I can't control it.
Oh, is it a TikTok thing?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I can't control it.
joe rogan
What the fuck is that?
But here's the thing.
The video is so shitty that you're getting all these artifacts.
Like, all this stuff is moving in the background anyway.
It could just be a video artifact.
brian redban
There's some people that kind of cleaned it up, and it looks like...
See, right there.
joe rogan
What is that, man?
brian redban
Right there.
She's, like, giving, like, a note or something.
And then the weird thing about it is right after it happens, they look up and see the drone, and they immediately stop doing what they're doing and walk inside.
joe rogan
Well, everybody would walk inside if your kid is a murderer and there's a drone over your house.
unidentified
What would they be saying?
jamie vernon
He's living underground?
brian redban
Right, like an underground bunker that they might have had?
joe rogan
Bro, it's a Stephen King book.
jamie vernon
It's in Florida.
They don't really have a lot.
I mean, they could have made one, but basements aren't a big thing there.
brian redban
Right, because of the ground and the ocean or whatever.
joe rogan
Jamie, party pooper.
jamie vernon
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
We're in our fun time.
brian redban
It's a fun conspiracy, though.
jamie vernon
I guess.
He's just laying on the ground.
joe rogan
You see that someone's deer camera caught him in the woods with a backpack on?
tony hinchcliffe
When?
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, someone has a trail cam, you know, like spotting deer wandering through your yard and shit, and took a photo of the guy.
tony hinchcliffe
So he's alive?
When was that?
brian redban
Well, it looks like him.
joe rogan
It looks like him.
See, the thing about these trail cams is they're not like high definition, especially at night.
You know, some of them don't look that good.
Some of them are pretty good.
But there's also the Appalachian Trail, like someone who's on that trail said they saw them for sure.
brian redban
Yeah.
And plus, he has just like that basic look that so many people have, like a shaved head and like a beard or whatever.
jamie vernon
It's not him.
joe rogan
Oh, it was not him.
Hiker caught on deer cam was not Brian Laundrie.
The man seen hiking on a rural trail in Florida Panhandle was not after all.
Okay, so they found the dude who it is.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm really rooting for Dog the Bounty Hunter on this one.
joe rogan
It would be wild if you caught him, dude.
jamie vernon
He took a break, I guess.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, he's taking a break?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he said he's sprained his ankle, so he's got to...
tony hinchcliffe
He's got to smoke a cigarette.
joe rogan
Walk it off, pussy.
brian redban
Yeah, that's pretty funny.
joe rogan
Bro, his show would boom in the ratings if he found that guy.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
My goodness.
Just something about his hair.
It's like I want him to win.
Just committing to this look after all these years.
tony hinchcliffe
100%.
Suntan.
I mean, weather beating.
joe rogan
How is he alive, right?
tony hinchcliffe
Baseball glove with a mullet.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Dog tired.
Look at him.
Look at his face.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, my goodness.
joe rogan
I need to get him in here.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
I have to get him in here while he's alive.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Thanks for having me, brother.
I've got to get that guy in here.
He's like Tex Cobb in that movie, Coen Brothers movie, Nicolas Cage, Raising Arizona.
He's Tex Cobb in Raising Arizona.
Look at him.
tony hinchcliffe
Look at his forehead.
joe rogan
He's so tan.
You talk about a guy who doesn't give a fuck about skin cancer.
Look at him.
Look how old he is.
Blonde hair, I don't know what color his hair is for real.
Probably not blonde.
brian redban
It's like Burt Kreischer after a night of drinking.
joe rogan
That's Burt Kreischer in six months.
tony hinchcliffe
Every morning.
brian redban
Every morning.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If he doesn't get off tour soon, that's Burt Kreischer.
I mean, how's that guy not...
How's he not, like, melanoma-flooded?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at them.
brian redban
And perfect teeth.
joe rogan
Those aren't real.
brian redban
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, those aren't his gums either.
brian redban
Oh, fake gum.
joe rogan
I don't know, I'm guessing.
They might be real teeth.
It might be like Conor McGregor.
Conor got his teeth done.
tony hinchcliffe
Really?
joe rogan
They're beautiful.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Well, you know, you figure your fighter, you get a lot of them knocked loose.
So you probably got some fake ones.
He's got beautiful teeth.
You ever thought about doing that?
One day just showing up with a...
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
Perfect smile.
brian redban
I've thought about it, but I don't like how it looks.
It looks too fake.
Like every tooth is perfect.
joe rogan
If you all of a sudden have neon white shining teeth, that would be one of the greatest things.
tony hinchcliffe
It would be so blatant.
joe rogan
You know what I'm thinking about doing just to try to be a little more interesting than I really am?
Like one of my canines, gold.
brian redban
No!
tony hinchcliffe
Why?
joe rogan
Come on, boy.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like a pirate or something.
tony hinchcliffe
I'm into shit like that.
brian redban
You should get a grill.
unidentified
You should get a grill.
No, not a grill.
joe rogan
Just one gold tooth.
brian redban
One gold tooth.
joe rogan
Like Tyson did in his prime.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Mike Tyson in his prime had one gold tooth.
Remember those days?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nobody has gold teeth anymore.
brian redban
Do you still have mercury fillings?
Like, my whole mouth is mercury, and I'm like...
joe rogan
Are you gonna die?
jamie vernon
One gold tooth?
You know, people definitely have gold teeth these days.
joe rogan
Yeah, but, like, remember how Tyson had that one gold tooth in the front?
That was very rare, that a person has, like, one gold tooth.
That was a thing back in the day.
People would have, like, they'd get a tooth fixed, and they would just get a gold tooth.
brian redban
Like Miley Cyrus does it or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they would put a cap over it.
These folks were getting an actual gold cap.
You would take an enamel one to get a fake new tooth.
I have one that I had to get a root canal and they put a crown on it.
These folks would get a gold one.
Do you remember that?
tony hinchcliffe
Sort of.
joe rogan
That was a thing.
tony hinchcliffe
I just thought that they would put it over their existing tooth.
joe rogan
That looks like they did surgery on her tooth and glued that bitch in there.
brian redban
I've never liked it because I always make it...
joe rogan
That guy in the front, gold tooth, 2015, bam.
That's what I'm talking about.
Some dudes would get a full gold tooth.
tony hinchcliffe
That's not real.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes, it is.
No, that's real.
There it is.
That guy's got one right there.
tony hinchcliffe
That one's real.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about.
I'm going to get one of those.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
brian redban
Why?
I think subconsciously it will make you look like you have bad teeth.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm going for.
I'm going for that gritty look.
Yeah, see?
Gold teeth were a thing, man.
Look at that.
Come on.
That looks dope.
That dude's got his canines gold.
jamie vernon
Just get the full grill.
joe rogan
Get the rainbow.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up.
And let me enjoy my stupid idea.
joe rogan
Why are you trying to correct me as if this is logical?
brian redban
You should get a nose ring.
Just try a nose ring.
joe rogan
Let me see.
Can you show me what Mike Tyson's gold tooth looked like?
Because Mike's was a little off.
You could tell he had it made when he didn't have any money.
Yeah.
See?
Go to Mike Tyson's gold tooth.
tony hinchcliffe
Damn.
Look at that thing.
joe rogan
Is that real?
But he's fixed it now.
Now he has regular teeth.
But back in the day...
Oh, there was two gold teeth?
brian redban
I don't remember this.
joe rogan
Yeah, I didn't know there was two.
I always thought there was just one.
Yeah, but that's him when he was young.
tony's gonna get this i can see tony liking this it was part of like the appeal of tyson like his look it's a ferocious look and gold teeth on top of that but like look at the one in the like in the middle up no above it right there that one i think that's legit because that's before his face tattoo that's what it looked like see so it was like he had a gold tooth and it didn't fit right you know there's like a gap But that was part of the look.
People used to get gold teeth back then.
I think Madonna had a gold tooth at one point, Tom.
Tony, you and me, gold teeth.
tony hinchcliffe
Okay, let's do it.
joe rogan
I'll get to the right side, you get the left side.
brian redban
Oh, okay, perfect.
joe rogan
I just want one gold canine.
And I'm going back, I'm getting two earrings now.
I'm getting an earring in each ear, a big one, hoops like a pirate.
brian redban
If you put the two teeth together, they look like a butterfly every time you guys kiss.
joe rogan
Tony, you don't have any tattoos, huh?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
Thinking about getting one?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I've come close a couple times lately.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's when Donna had a full grill at one point in time.
I don't think that's a good choice.
That looks like a monster.
brian redban
That's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Okay, that's a mistake.
That's a mistake.
But one, Miley's got a gold tooth.
Go up to Miley.
Oh, the bottom.
But if you go to the other picture on the left-hand side, up above that, up above, is that the bottom tooth, the same thing?
So it's like a bottom brace or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Beyonce got a couple.
That's a grill.
I'm talking about a real one.
I wake up in the morning, I brush my gold tooth.
And I'm thinking of you, with an American eagle on your back.
A giant one.
A huge one.
tony hinchcliffe
Maybe on my chest.
joe rogan
Maybe it says, kill Tony.
tony hinchcliffe
No.
joe rogan
In a scroll.
Maybe the eagle is holding a scroll, and in that scroll...
tony hinchcliffe
Or maybe the eagle has one of those, I'm saying something bubbles above its head, and it just says, kill Tony.
unidentified
That's a terrible idea.
tony hinchcliffe
Instead of, caca.
unidentified
That's terrible.
joe rogan
Eagles don't say caca, you fucking idiot.
tony hinchcliffe
What do they say?
unidentified
Caca!
joe rogan
They screech.
That's a raven.
brian redban
That's a crow.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's you.
That's your back.
But the scroll just says, kill Tony.
In the eagle's claws, instead of a salmon?
Yes, like that.
It just says, kill Tony.
tony hinchcliffe
Wow.
brian redban
Are you going to get any more tattoos?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Are you going to go back to San Diego?
joe rogan
I'm thinking of my hair.
I'm going to get like a wolf.
Like Jason Ellis did.
A wolf on my head.
Why not?
I'm getting old.
I'm accepting the fact that I'm dying soon.
I'm trying to come up with new ideas.
Maybe lightning bolts for hair.
brian redban
No, come on.
joe rogan
Absolutely, look at that.
Yeah, like Travis Barker.
He's got a dope head of hair, head of tattoo.
That's what I'm going to do.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
What should I have?
brian redban
Blessed.
Blessed.
joe rogan
Definitely blessed.
It's true.
I am blessed.
Maybe I'll put that over my hair transplant scar.
I said I'd say blessed.
I just get flowers all over the top of my head.
You know?
Make me look more friendly.
Maybe.
Right?
brian redban
You should do one of those creepy ones where it looks like you can see in your skull and see your brain.
You know where it's like 3D looking or something.
joe rogan
Dude, I saw one that's wild.
It's a guy who has a concave chest.
It looks like he had some sort of an accident.
His chest is caved in.
So he had that optical illusion with the circles, the concentric circles getting smaller and smaller.
So it looks like there's a black hole in the center of his chest.
brian redban
Have you seen this new style of tattoo where it looks like a patch?
Like a patch has been sewn onto your skin?
Somebody posted it the other day.
The Rock or somebody.
joe rogan
Tattoo artists today are on such an insane level.
They do photorealistic images.
They do optical illusions.
There's even a kind of ink that I think glows in the dark.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
Yeah, there is.
It's like a loom ink or something like that.
Like you have loom on your watch, so if you're late at night when you're taking a piss, you can look at your watch and you see where the hands are.
I think they have that with some tattoos.
I might be making this up.
brian redban
Lil Duvall is the one that posted that.
joe rogan
Lil Duvall did?
brian redban
Yeah.
I love him.
He's so fucking funny.
joe rogan
But he's worried about his Instagram getting attacked, so he went private.
tony hinchcliffe
Oh, really?
joe rogan
He's got a backup page, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tony hinchcliffe
Why would it have gotten attacked?
joe rogan
Well, the same way Freddie Gibbs gets attacked.
They post too much wild shit.
He's always posting wild shit.
Instagram has become more and more censored.
Sam Tripoli is constantly getting hit.
He got hit with one where it was a picture of Hillary Clinton, and you can see from the first picture that she kind of has a little camel toe, and then it zooms in to the camel toe, and then the next image is a guy pouring hot sauce into his eyes.
brian redban
Yeah, I love that meme.
joe rogan
It's so funny.
You can't do that?
You're getting that taken down?
tony hinchcliffe
Like, what is it?
I told you they've been hiding the Kill Tony account because it has the word kill in it in a human's name.
joe rogan
Right.
tony hinchcliffe
Did you know that?
You have to type out the name of the show all the way to be able to bring up our Instagram page.
The show's Instagram page.
brian redban
I don't know if it's because I have mine in my cache or something, but it works for me because I do it every...
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it is.
It's when someone's new.
They don't follow you guys.
It's hard to find.
brian redban
You know what's weird is just going on a different...
I use Google all the time for everything.
The search results I get are so completely different if I don't log in at all and search Google.
Or if I go to Bing.
If you go to Bing and type in the same thing, like Yahoo, it's so amazing.
You get completely different stuff.
joe rogan
I use DuckDuckGo.
DuckDuckGo, they don't filter the information.
They just give you the information.
Whatever is out there.
When I was trying to find controversial stories about different weird things that have happened, Anytime it's like in the news, it's like a taboo subject or it's weird, DuckDuck goes away because there's no curation.
Your Google feed, they'll hide shit from you.
There's certain things they don't want people to find.
It's very weird because there's someone who's deciding that this thing that I'm interested in, I'm not a bad person.
I'm a good person.
I pay my taxes.
I'm just trying to find out information.
Is this real?
Is it not real?
I can't find it.
You're hiding things from me.
That's weird, man.
tony hinchcliffe
Real interesting.
I noticed yesterday that CNN talked negatively on their front page, their main story about Instagram causing depression in teenagers for the first time.
And it made me think, like, wow, I haven't seen them cover anything about this before.
On the contrary, it seemed like...
joe rogan
It's about Facebook.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, here's the controversy.
The worry is that what they're doing is that they're trying to promote the idea that either the government or someone else should step in and censor even more, and that you should give this to some sort of regulatory committee.
So if someone is a air quotes whistleblower, and there's a lot of people are skeptical about this because all of a sudden she starts her account in October, she's immediately verified, and then she's immediately speaking in front of Congress.
Right.
So it's like, okay, and what is she saying?
She's saying that they're allowing information to get on the internet that harms people.
And one of the things she's talking about, like, if you're an anorexic, they will send anorexia content your way.
But that's if you're a fucking hot rod enthusiast, they'll send hot rods your way.
The algorithm, for sure, exacerbates arguments.
For sure, whatever people are interested in arguing about, it'll find that for you and send it your way.
That's for sure, because that's how they get you interested.
The way they can keep you paying attention To their platform is to give you something that pisses you off and you engage in it.
Whether it's abortion rights or gun control or what are these hot topics that people get, immigration, people get excited, they want to talk about that all the time.
But that's what you're interested in.
That's the problem.
The problem is really that it finds what you're actually interested in.
And people are interested in arguing.
They fucking like it.
So no matter what it is, if it's, so if it's, you're interested in, you know, anorexia, it's going to find anorexic stuff for you.
And they say that harms people.
There's an argument that algorithms are not wise.
There's an argument that you should be searching your shit based on what your actual interest is in at that moment and not having a bunch of stuff suggested to you based on your interests.
Like if you're interested in golf, I know you play golf, you could find golf stuff.
It's not hard.
So if you just Google golf and then go looking for it specifically, Maybe that would be better.
Because if you're talking about things that piss people off, whether it's abortion, how much of our discourse is getting flavored by the fact that these algorithms are leading people to be more aggressive and more annoyed at each other and separate more?
There's a real argument about it.
Because these folks that did that documentary, The Social Dilemma, they don't paint a very rosy picture.
Did you watch that?
unidentified
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
What did you think about it?
tony hinchcliffe
I think it's crazy, man.
You know, I mean, maybe they have an agenda now, but at the same time, it's just all...
I don't know.
It's like...
It's just the craziest time.
joe rogan
It's the craziest time and it seems like all these factors are all coming together to work against us.
All these things...
I mean, I'm not saying that this is a grand plan.
I don't think it is.
I think there's a lot of human nature involved.
There's a lot of coinciding processes that are independent but are happening simultaneously.
And you could look at it like it's one gigantic conspiracy to ruin the world.
But if you look at all these cops in Seattle that are about to resign, that is maybe the worst thing that can happen to Seattle.
Seattle is so fucked already with the way they deal with Antifa and protests.
That's the place where they allowed them to take over a whole chunk of downtown and convert it into their own autonomous zone.
Remember that?
tony hinchcliffe
Wasn't that Portland?
joe rogan
No, that was Seattle.
And it was also the lady who was running it, who was running Seattle, said, maybe it's going to be our summer of love.
Remember that?
So they took over where these buildings, where businesses are.
They abandoned a precinct.
Like, this is crazy shit.
And that's in Seattle.
So those people...
Are now going to have 40% less police.
That's nuts.
That's nuts.
If you wanted Seattle to fucking explode, that's the best way.
This could be disastrous.
Like that shit that we saw with the autonomous zone, that might just be the beginning.
Of what happens in Seattle if these cops actually walk off the job.
Portland had the mayor who was, like, trying to hang out with Antifa and walk with them, and then they tried to burn his apartment building down, like, fuck you, resign.
Like, they want to go all out.
You can't just say, let's talk, let's negotiate.
No, they want him to resign.
Get out of there.
They want no law enforcement.
Defund the police.
They want chaos.
If they defund the police all throughout the Pacific Northwest, that might be a whole different part of it.
That might turn into some crazy third world country.
We're experiencing some wild shit in real time.
brian redban
It's pretty crazy.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, I think they'll learn real quick.
joe rogan
But then there's this other thing about the federal government looking into any transactions that are more than $600.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
What is that?
brian redban
Yeah.
Well, they always kind of had that array.
joe rogan
$10,000.
brian redban
Was it $10,000?
joe rogan
Yes, $10,000.
unidentified
I thought it was $1,000.
joe rogan
No, if you go to the bank with $10,000, they have to go, where the fuck did you get this?
But if you go to the bank with $9,000, they go, oh, you made a lot of money.
brian redban
Yeah, it kind of sucks, because I give my girlfriend money all the time, and I'm just like, oh yeah, here's some money.
Now I'm like, here's $599, and in two days I'll give you another one.
joe rogan
What is the story with that?
What is the story with the $600?
Is that real?
brian redban
Yeah, it started October 15th, I think?
joe rogan
So, if you buy something for $700 on Amazon, they have to look into you?
brian redban
No, I think it's when you give money to somebody, like using Venmo apps or any of those kind of things.
joe rogan
Oh.
Is it a cumulative $600?
brian redban
That's what I don't know, because I'm fucked if it's accumulative.
Because that's how I pay people for secret show and comedy shows.
I'm like, what's your Venmo?
What's your Venmo?
joe rogan
That seems reasonable, though.
They're independent contractors.
That's on them.
Once you do that, once you give them the money, that's on them.
But if the government is looking into $600, like, hey, that seems a little odd.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, it's a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
That's a lot of looking.
joe rogan
Well, especially, it's like, okay, can we look into how you made money?
How do you have $100 million?
Like, why don't we start looking into that?
Looking into certain people that are members of Congress and the Senate that...
You know, like we were talking about with the FDA and Pfizer, there's some weird shenanigans that go on with politicians where they're like 70% accurate in stock market predictions.
tony hinchcliffe
And that should be public knowledge.
joe rogan
That should be public.
Well, here's something that someone said that's a really good idea.
All congressmen, senators, congresswomen, female senators.
What's a senatorina?
What is it?
brian redban
Senorina?
joe rogan
We're talking about comedians.
That stupid term that we don't really use anymore, comedian.
But if they all had body cameras on, like cops.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
24-7.
Access to 24-7.
If you're doing business in that way, well, not 24-7, but when you're on duty, you have to have it.
If you're doing meetings, you have to have it.
If you're involved in any sort of bill writing, anything that involves the kind of damage they can do.
They could do some serious.
If you found out that one of those giant bills, you know those bills they try to pass?
It's like 2,000 pages and it's like protect our children, but inside it's all a bunch of crazy shit they put in these bills.
Those bills are nuts.
They had one of those the other day that the Republicans were looking at.
Joe Biden was trying to pass through and they were saying, do you think Joe Biden's read?
Have you seen a video of that?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
joe rogan
You know what I'm talking about, Jamie?
Did you see it online?
There's a Republican politician, and he holds up this bill, and it's so gigantic.
It's thousands of pages.
It's like a good solid 12 inches thick.
tony hinchcliffe
It's Biden's infrastructure bill.
joe rogan
The Build Back Better.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And so this guy is saying, it is impossible that any of these people are telling you to pass this.
It's impossible that they read it.
There's no way they read it.
And he's talking about how many pages and how long.
It's like, what is in here?
tony hinchcliffe
It's crazy.
joe rogan
But the fact that they can do that kind of shit, that is like, if you're going to pull some shenanigans, what better than to bury it deep in a bill that no one's going to read and that everyone's going to sign off on.
And then when they sign off on it, you realize, oh, now they can tap your phone.
Oh, now they can, you know, take 600 bucks and look at every transaction over $600 from now on.
Now they can, you know, whatever.
Find out your search engine history and that could affect your credit score, which is a new thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
That one was charge your employer.
They penalized the employer for having unvaccinated employees.
joe rogan
Which one?
tony hinchcliffe
In Biden's infrastructure bill.
joe rogan
Oh, that's in there too?
tony hinchcliffe
Hidden in the middle of it.
Really?
That's how they are planning on getting everybody vaccinated.
joe rogan
So they're going to fine employers?
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
joe rogan
But what if the people get tested?
Because that was the other thing, was that you have to get tested once a week.
You either have to be vaccinated if you have 100 employees.
That's something that people did leave out.
Like, you either have to get vaccinated or you get tested once a week.
Which you could still get tested once a week and still keep your job if there's 100 people in your company.
Like, that sort of got...
Missed.
brian redban
That makes more sense.
joe rogan
Makes more sense.
brian redban
Yeah.
And I get that.
Get tested.
joe rogan
What really makes sense is test everybody.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because we know now that vaccinated people get it, vaccinated people spread it.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
You know, they might have a better time of it, some of them, but some vaccinated people have caught it and been very sick and hospitalized and some have died.
That's real too.
tony hinchcliffe
It's funny that vaccinations are free, but tests are like a hundred bucks.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
They're not that much, but it is, yeah, it is weird.
brian redban
Yeah.
You could buy, like, a 10-pack of tests on Amazon right now for, like, 50 bucks or something like that.
joe rogan
I don't know how accurate those are.
brian redban
Well, they just pulled some, right?
Like, a popular brand just got recalled because their accuracy was bullshit.
joe rogan
That's the PCR test.
There's a PCR test that's gonna be inactive, I don't know which specific one, in December.
They're gonna stop using it because Of its inaccuracy in determining whether or not someone has COVID or the flu or a bunch of other things.
They went over the statistics about, at 40 cycles, how accurate it is.
And apparently it's not accurate at all when you go very high.
At very high cycles, they think there's some extraordinary rate of false positives when they're at like 40 cycles.
So then they drop the cycles down to, I think, 35?
I think below, it's like between 30 and 35. And they're more accurate when you're at that level.
You can find out whether or not someone's sick.
But they didn't do anything about all those positives that they got when it was jacked up to 40. So they don't know how many of those people actually had COVID. But they think it's an extraordinarily high number of false positives.
I think it's like somewhere in the neighborhood of like high 80%.
Which is crazy.
brian redban
Yeah.
But I'm sure a lot of those people that got tested had symptoms and that's why they got tested.
So they probably did have.
joe rogan
Not necessarily.
My friend got tested because she had to go to a wedding.
brian redban
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
And she found out she had it and then she took three positive COVID tests.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And she had zero symptoms.
She never had any symptoms.
She's one of those rare people that for whatever reason never felt anything.
She didn't have a cough, didn't have a fever, didn't have a headache, didn't have trouble sleeping.
She just couldn't believe she was positive.
She just kept testing positive.
But again, I don't know how much she had in her system.
She might have had just a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny amount.
And it never really got sick sick, but she did test positive three times on three PCR tests.
But those ones that they have at Walmart, not Walmart, but any drugstore, the over-the-counter ones, I tested negative with one of those on Thursday.
So when I got sick on Sunday, I was negative on one of those on Thursday, and then I was negative on the rapid antigen test that we use here in the studio on Friday.
So I don't think it was accurate because in the rapid antigen one that I tested on Thursday, I was positive.
So I was negative in the over-the-counter one and in positive in that one.
I was like, huh.
And the nurse was like, you're probably really close to being negative.
unidentified
So then I tested the next day and I was negative.
joe rogan
So I don't think they're as good.
They need a saliva one.
They were talking about having one of those a long time ago.
Dana White was telling me.
They're real close to one that you lick it, and within a minute, they find out if you're positive.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, that'd be great.
joe rogan
That would be the thing.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
And use it for everybody, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Since we know that vaccinated people can still get it for their own health, we should have a test.
For them.
You shouldn't just let them into everywhere.
It would be nice if everybody's going to get tested.
Everybody test.
And then we find out what's going on.
And if they are vaccinated and they have it, they can take it easy.
And maybe it'll keep them from getting sicker.
Maybe they can get treatment right away.
tony hinchcliffe
Getting the answers quickly is very important.
A lot of these tests, they're like, hey, keep checking in on this database after we give you this test for the next couple few days.
Could be tomorrow, could be two days from now.
But if you wait two or three days, people feel okay, they take chances.
You know what I mean?
They'll go out to eat or they'll hang out with their friends or go to work or whatever, especially go to work.
joe rogan
If they have to.
They can't say, hey, I can't come in today.
I might have COVID, but I don't know yet.
A lot of jobs are like, fuck you, come in.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, stop being a pussy.
They don't believe you.
unidentified
Right.
jamie vernon
Apparently they do have the spit test.
joe rogan
Oh, they do.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I just typed it in and there's a lot of reports, which I can't get to past the paywall, but there's one from Minnesota.
Free COVID test gets door dashed to your home.
It even adds in that kids like to challenge themselves by doing a one spit.
joe rogan
I was reading...
That's interesting.
When did this come out?
jamie vernon
Two days ago.
Within the last couple days I've been seeing it.
joe rogan
Aha.
How good is it?
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I need to know.
jamie vernon
Arizona State administered its $1 million.
joe rogan
Free Minnesota testing program, DoorDash's COVID spit test.
That's what I'm talking about.
DoorDash it.
Bang.
Spit.
Positive, negative, you know right away.
brian redban
Does DoorDash have stock?
joe rogan
That's a good move, right?
That's a good move.
That's what they need to do.
You know?
Have some, like, real, definitive way of telling.
Quickly.
brian redban
Or, like, something that attaches to your cell phone that you lick, you know, or something...
joe rogan
Blow into it.
brian redban
Yeah, or blow into it.
joe rogan
Yeah, like a little attachment to the bottom.
Yeah.
They're going to figure out things that are going to be more accurate for testing because I think what's going to happen is most likely they're going to have to do something along those lines.
Unless there's going to be some new medication that comes along, if the waning efficacy of these vaccines proves to be the case across the board, a year from now, how good are they going to be?
They're going to have to come up with some sort of testing or they're going to have to get people to keep having injections and the FDA said no boosters.
They pulled their approval for the booster shots.
brian redban
They did?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
When did they do this?
joe rogan
Two people resigned.
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, two top people resigned because they felt like they were being pressured to...
I don't want to put words in their mouth, but they resigned over the boosters.
And then they pulled their acceptance of the boosters.
What was it, like 16 to 2?
16 to 2 was the vote, which is pretty overwhelming.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's because of Israel.
Israel's booster thing, it doesn't seem to be working that well.
Like, there's a lot of vaccinated people in Israel that are getting COVID. God, I'm tired of talking about this.
brian redban
No doubt.
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
No doubt.
tony hinchcliffe
Hopefully it's over soon.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
tony hinchcliffe
I think so.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm one of these people.
I like to be optimistic.
It's failed me for the last two years with this subject, but...
You know, I see these things.
They go up, they come down, the variants.
It seems to be...
There's a lot of really interesting stuff happening.
It seems that there's no rhyme or reason.
Florida's cases are down like 89% the last three weeks with no new mandates, no mask mandates, no explanation for how...
joe rogan
That's what's fascinating.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Australia goes through the roof with all the worst mandates ever.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Their caseloads are through the roof.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
It's like the mass experiment on how to handle this.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People are doing it a different way.
Australia's doing it the worst.
The worst.
They're treating people like they're in a police state.
Florida's doing it the best.
tony hinchcliffe
Yep.
joe rogan
Florida, like, whether you agree or disagree, like, you know, Billy Corbin was in here and he thought it was terrible, but I'm like, I don't think you should tell people what to do.
I don't think you should give the government that ability to tell people what to do.
And statistically speaking, over time, it doesn't seem to be making a difference in the total numbers of people that get sick, the total numbers of death, especially apparently.
If you factor in age, like when they adjust for age, you know, because the floor is filled with a lot of fucking old people.
When they talk about people dying, it's like, how long are they going to live?
You're in your 90s?
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much time do you got left?
Like a bad ham sandwich would take you out.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
A pretzel.
tony hinchcliffe
And they get to live their lives, you know, like here in Texas.
It's also like the quality of life.
I mean...
You're trying to be safe.
You're trying to not die, but you're staying inside and you're wearing masks in these places with all these mandates, and that's no kind of life at all.
joe rogan
Well, do you know how many people who get COVID actually wound up being hospitalized?
tony hinchcliffe
How much?
joe rogan
Small percentage.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's between 1 and 5%.
It depends.
It depends on where.
It varies in the country depending on the amount of people, whether their body mass is, whether they're overweight, whether they're sedentary.
What percentage of people are sedentary?
But the amount of people that apparently are in the hospital that are vaccinated is very low in comparison to unvaccinated in this country.
Most of the people that are in the hospital for COVID are unvaccinated.
But that's a small percentage of people that get COVID. That's what people miss.
It's like the number of people that get COVID that wound up being hospitalized is pretty small.
And the number of those people that make it to the hospital that are actually vaccinated is even smaller.
That's a small slice.
So it's a small number of people that are in the hospital for COVID, a small percentage.
So even when they talk about the hospitals being overwhelmed, the amount of people that actually get it and wound up being hospitalized is fairly small.
It's just hard, because everybody's scared, and no one has answers, and everyone's freaking out, and you can't even talk about it.
If you bring it up on social media, you get banned.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's wild.
If you post articles about things, like one of those guys that's the host of Trigonomic, what the fuck is that show?
Triggerometry I think it's called there's a a really good show out of the UK that is a The dude's name is Constantine K-I-S-I-N. I don't want to say his name wrong.
But he's TriggerPod.
That's the name of the podcast.
It's a really good podcast.
It's on YouTube.
And he posted something that was just reposting the Project Veritas insider information videos that they're doing all these exposes.
Have you seen all those?
They're pulling them down from social media sites.
It's pretty wild, but they basically catfished these scientists to go on Tinder dates.
I would assume like some hot girl who talks them into talking shit about the vaccine.
And, you know, on camera.
Like, so they've got a hidden camera.
And they've got Pfizer scientists saying they think they work for an evil company.
Pfizer scientists saying that your natural immunity is better.
You probably have more of it than you do with the vaccine.
All these different things that are very controversial.
And the company runs on COVID money, and they have these undercover videos of these guys saying these things.
And this guy got put in Twitter jail for posting that.
Just posting it.
Just saying, look, here is this video that I found.
This is like proof that people who are scientists at Pfizer are not happy with the way things are, and they're worried about talking about it.
They're constantly looking over their shoulder.
And they get pulled off of Twitter for that.
tony hinchcliffe
True.
joe rogan
The kind of censorship we're experiencing today is so weird.
tony hinchcliffe
It's just crazy because, like, it used to be the conspiracy theorists were, like, the crazy ones, right?
You know what I mean?
And even during this pandemic specifically, they've proven that UFOs are a real thing, which was, like, one of the craziest ones, right?
That was a big one.
It's like, what is there...
And, like, NASA and the government said that, yes, now we can confirm...
joe rogan
The Pentagon.
tony hinchcliffe
Right.
And so, that happened, but nobody really cares, because there's a global pandemic happening, so it sort of goes under the radar, where everybody's worried about staying in.
Who cares about life on other planets, because right here we're struggling, right?
So, like, it's like they waited...
And meanwhile, the conspiracy theorists seem to be right time and time again, except for Flat Earth and a couple other, you know, wackadoodle things, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's quite a few wacky ones that aren't real.
tony hinchcliffe
But the ones that have been proven are really big ones.
UFOs are a big deal.
joe rogan
That's a big one.
There's a lot of people that still dispute that.
They don't think it's real.
They think it's some sort of a government program they're trying to cover up by saying that there's UFOs.
Which almost makes sense.
Yeah.
We actually went over that with Mike Baker.
We were trying to figure it out.
Because Mike Baker used to work for the CIA. We were like, do you think that they would do that?
I'm starting to get skeptical again.
I'm wondering, maybe some of these things are something that has come here from another world.
But maybe there's some insane drone that works on some new kind of propulsion system that we don't understand yet.
It's possible that they would be working on something like that and not tell the general public.
And then the way they would cover it up is by saying that these are off-world crafts.
Because otherwise, I don't know what their motivation for saying that they're off-world crafts are.
One of the best motivations would be to dismiss the idea that they have the kind of technology that can move the way those things do when they actually do have that technology.
So the smoke screen.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, that makes sense.
joe rogan
4D chess, son.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, that makes sense.
joe rogan
You've got to always be moving them chips around.
I would imagine that there's got to be some stuff that they have that'll blow your mind.
I gotta imagine.
So maybe that's one of them.
But the other things about like Like, voting?
Whether or not you believe Trump lost the election or won the election, the idea that there's zero voter fraud is fucking nuts.
andy stumpf
There's definitely voter fraud.
joe rogan
So, like, how much?
How much voter fraud?
How much is acceptable?
One of the things they found in Arizona, they found, like, thousands of duplicate ballots.
Thousands and thousands.
Well, there's a lot of people in Arizona.
But, I mean, what's going on?
Like, why are there so many?
How many duplicate ballots did they find in Arizona?
tony hinchcliffe
Pretty strong electoral state, too.
joe rogan
Well, I would imagine they're stealing both ways, too.
I don't think it's just the Republicans that would do that, or just the Democrats.
I think everybody who could get away with it would do that.
They think their side has to win, and that the future of our nation is at stake, and they start convincing themselves that it's very important that Donald Trump be defeated, or it's very important that Joe Biden and the deep state be stopped.
People do anything.
brian redban
Biden's a hologram.
joe rogan
You think?
brian redban
Yeah, that's what they're saying now, that Biden's a hologram, Trump's still in office or something like that.
joe rogan
They would have a better hologram.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I think they'd have a stuttering hologram.
brian redban
He's not just stuttering.
joe rogan
He's not just stuttering.
The latest one.
Have you seen the latest one?
The latest gaffe where he just mumbles for like 30 seconds?
tony hinchcliffe
Nonsense.
joe rogan
Calls a guy like the president of Pittsburgh or something.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah.
brian redban
I think it's endearing, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's cute.
If he was your grandpa, you'd feel so sad.
If you took your family to go visit their grandpa, and you'd be like, hey, kids, I just want you to know, grandpa's not going to be around much longer.
So, you know, have conversations with him, because you're going to remember these for the rest of your life.
Like, try to sit down and talk to him.
When you see he's talking good, talk to him.
Talk to him.
Tell him you love him.
Just recognize you're going to miss your grandpa someday.
That's what I would say.
If that was my dad and I went to visit my dad and he was like that with my children, I would be saying that to them.
I know this is going to be uncomfortable.
Grandpa's going to forget a lot of things, but it's not because he doesn't love you.
His grandpa's dying.
But meanwhile, he's the president.
tony hinchcliffe
Nuclear codes.
joe rogan
What were we asking you to look up?
jamie vernon
The ballot thing.
joe rogan
Oh, how many duplicate ballots were there in Arizona?
jamie vernon
That claim of the 17,000 number came from, according to this article, a guy named Dr. Shiva.
joe rogan
Oh, that guy?
jamie vernon
And then when they looked, he said that there were 17,322 duplicate images presented in a data set, not actually ballots.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
That Dr. Shiva guy is the guy who said he invented email.
jamie vernon
Hey, man.
brian redban
Yeah.
He's not even a doctor.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
brian redban
He's probably one of those fake doctors.
joe rogan
Like a PhD?
brian redban
Yeah.
tony hinchcliffe
He's a real doctor.
jamie vernon
He wasn't a chiropractor.
joe rogan
Oh, it's misleading.
So are there any duplicates or no?
Duplicate images.
17,000 duplicate images.
What does that mean, though?
brian redban
It doesn't count as a vote.
jamie vernon
Right.
So they're scanning ballots through a thing, and then they can go back through and double-check them, and they did that.
joe rogan
Oh, how complicated.
jamie vernon
Right.
joe rogan
So how do you know if someone's not running fucking shenanigans with the numbers?
jamie vernon
Well, they have a group of people to look at it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
And he was a late addition to that team of people who were auditing it.
brian redban
So if it's a duplicate image, that means, like, if you were to vote, it would use your social security number, and then they would find it when they double-check, like, oh, yeah, this is the same person.
It's a duplicate.
Throw it out.
joe rogan
Oh, so someone...
jamie vernon
No.
A household exchange, for instance, happens when people in the same household inadvertently assign an envelope meant for another person in the household and vice versa.
When this happens, the envelopes follow the same process as any other deemed questionable.
Then they go through that process and they might have to even call it or they'll go ask the people who they voted for and look for records.
joe rogan
Well, if it's not shenanigans, that makes sense.
17,000 morons in Arizona, but yeah, for sure.
For sure, 17,000 people that can't read.
When I look at mail that comes to my house, my eyesight is so bad.
I have to see if it's mine or my wife's.
I've got to go like this.
If I'm some fucking old dude, and I'm, ah, fuck, fuck Joe Biden, and I'm just filling out forms, fuck Donald Trump, and I'm filling out, I might easily fill him out.
brian redban
Or a husband and wife that disagree on who to vote for, one, you know, different article that says this.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the guy.
Yeah.
Audit expert Shiva Ayyadurai didn't understand the electric procedures.
He made a number of false signature claims.
This guy also claims he invented email.
I don't know if he did, but it seems like he didn't.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean, he looks like a pretty smart guy to me.
MIT graduate?
Professor?
Something like that?
joe rogan
Look, Team Trump over here.
Look at him.
Team MAGA. I mean, I don't know.
Do you think you'd ever wear a MAGA hat on stage?
I know you've been wearing that cowboy hat.
unidentified
Oh, come on.
joe rogan
If you walked on stage with a MAGA hat, like, towards the election?
tony hinchcliffe
Depends on who wins in 2024. Come and win.
joe rogan
No, up till 2024. When Trump announces, if you start wearing a MAGA hat and you walk on stage with your cowboy outfit on and a MAGA hat, you'd be the ultimate pro wrestling heel.
I'm not saying it's fake.
I'm not saying what you're doing is fake when you're dressing up like a cowboy.
Right.
brian redban
It's real, by the way.
tony hinchcliffe
It's very real.
brian redban
Have you seen his Spurs yet?
I heard about the Spurs.
tony hinchcliffe
It was his friend's idea, by the way.
It was a Bostonian.
joe rogan
Do you think you would wear a MAGA hat?
tony hinchcliffe
No.
joe rogan
Never?
What if Trump wins in 2024?
Do you think you'll take an Instagram picture with you with a MAGA hat on?
tony hinchcliffe
Why would I need to?
I have a cowboy hat on.
joe rogan
Most dangerous of dangerous moves is the MAGA hat.
100% hate.
Guaranteed.
You get a lot of people that love you, but boy, the amount of hate you.
tony hinchcliffe
Yeah, I know, right?
joe rogan
It's dangerous.
Who would have thought a hat that says, Make America Great Again, would make people want to punch you?
tony hinchcliffe
Crazy, right?
joe rogan
That's, I mean, when they look back at this time, that will be one of the most weird moments.
That a Make America Great Again hat is enough to make people want to assault you.
tony hinchcliffe
I mean that kid with it That kid won so much money from those lawsuits.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't know how much money you want But apparently it was a sizable amount, but I don't know what that means, but they they fucked that kid They knew they said they had the full video They played a clip out of it made it look like that kid got in that Native American guy's face and was smiling and Meanwhile, that kid was just standing there while the guy walked right up to him and started banging the drums inches from his face.
brian redban
But his face was kind of annoying.
A little bit.
joe rogan
Both those things are true.
tony hinchcliffe
Just like someone has an annoying face doesn't mean they're guilty of a crime.
joe rogan
That's true.
Well, the narrative they spelled out was completely incorrect.
Alright, we should wrap this up.
Listen, you guys have the best fucking comedy show on live, the best live comedy show on the internet.
You really do.
Kill Tony's amazing.
It's the best platform for young up-and-coming comedians.
It's definitely the cornerstone of the Austin comedy scene.
It's so important.
Like I said, it's so important to let comics know.
This is a thing.
You can get in on this.
You can actually put your name in a hat.
You'll have an opportunity to go up and do one minute.
Anything to say?
brian redban
And you're on this week's episode.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
We did this like a month ago.
The Burt Kreischer one.
It's a good one.
We showed up guns blazing.
unidentified
Yep.
tony hinchcliffe
It's unbelievable.
You, Burt, and Dom Irera.
joe rogan
Yes.
tony hinchcliffe
We're very excited to be here in Austin, Texas.
joe rogan
I can tell you're excited.
You sound excited.
Let's wrap this bitch up.
Bring it home.
Redband on Twitter and Instagram.
Tony Hinchcliffe, Twitter, Instagram.
Is there a Kill Tony account?
unidentified
Yep.
brian redban
Kill Tony.
joe rogan
That's right.
The one that you...
Kill Tony show.
The one you can't find unless you specifically type it in.
tony hinchcliffe
Type it all the way out on Instagram.
joe rogan
Kill Tony show on Instagram.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
That's it.
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