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Joe Rogan Experience #1650 - Russell Peters
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day.
Joe Rogan Podcast by night.
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Hello, Russell.
russell peters
Hello, Joseph.
unidentified
Good to see you, my friend.
russell peters
How are you, pally?
joe rogan
I'm fucking great.
Better now that you're here.
russell peters
I know.
I called you and I said, Joe, I really want to do your podcast again.
You said, sure.
joe rogan
Anytime, buddy.
russell peters
I know.
It was great.
I was very happy.
I thought you were going to be like, oh, man, you know, I got so many people out here.
joe rogan
Come on.
Russell, you and I go back, my friend.
I tell everybody I wear the watch you gave me every special, and I have since 2014. Oh, really?
russell peters
I didn't know that detail.
That's an interesting detail.
joe rogan
You gave me a watch once.
It was the most ridiculously generous thing ever.
I was looking at your watch.
I go, that's a nice watch.
You want it?
And you took it off and gave it to me.
I'm like, Jesus Christ.
So I've worn it every special.
russell peters
I've tried that with you.
I was like, Joe, that's a really nice Porsche.
Yeah, it is.
And you walked away.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a ploy.
unidentified
I see how it works.
russell peters
Well, it never worked.
It never worked.
So I took your advice and I started my podcast.
joe rogan
I heard.
russell peters
Yes.
joe rogan
How many have you done so far?
russell peters
I think I've done maybe eight or nine, maybe.
joe rogan
Are you enjoying it?
russell peters
I'm having a good time with it, you know.
joe rogan
Why'd you wait so long?
russell peters
I really don't.
It really wasn't until your prompting that I started to look into it.
And then you said you'd be my first guest, but I was like, let me get some people under my belt first.
joe rogan
Get rolling.
russell peters
Yeah, let me get rolling.
unidentified
Get comfortable.
russell peters
Yeah, that's like becoming a white belt and go, hey, let me roll with you.
You're like, no, don't do that.
joe rogan
Do you have a studio at your house?
Where do you have your studio?
russell peters
There's no studio.
I just do it in my backyard.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
russell peters
I have a little porch area with a humidor, and then we sit around like this, we smoke cigars, we have some drinks.
joe rogan
I like outdoor podcasts.
Anthony Cumia used to do his in his backyard.
russell peters
That was by force, not by choice.
joe rogan
Well, when he left New York, when he left Opie and Anthony.
russell peters
When he went back to Long Island and built his little...
joe rogan
The compound.
russell peters
His compound.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But he used to do it just like sitting out by the pool.
russell peters
Yeah, the pool's right there.
And, you know, you'll hear planes go by and stuff.
It's nice.
But it's like this.
It's just conversation.
It's just hanging out.
I took a page out of your book.
I was like, people are like, well, what's it going to be about?
I go, I just want you to hear me and my friends hanging out and talking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
You know, a little fly on the wall business there.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's all it needs to be.
This idea that it needs to be something very specific.
Like, what are you going to talk about?
Like, you need an angle.
You need a hook.
russell peters
Yeah, I'm like, there's no, like, I go, I'm going to have a tough time fucking sticking to that script.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I don't know, though.
Some people, like, Ari has a theme for most of his podcasts.
russell peters
Ari's a very thematic guy.
Even when he came up with the TV shows, you know?
He would always have a theme.
And when he would have those shows at the store, okay, we're going to do this night.
Do you have a blah, blah, blah story for that?
Which is good.
And, you know, it challenges the guest a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Which is nice, but...
joe rogan
Well, that's how he came up with his show.
He came up with the idea for his show when he was just trying to figure out ways to work on bits that are storytelling form.
So he said, you know what I'll do?
I'll just do a whole storytelling show.
Where you don't do your act, you just tell a story.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
And then he set it up in the lab, the old lab, before it became that weird lab in the improv.
russell peters
Oh, yeah, yeah, on Melrose there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then he started doing it there.
And then next thing you know, it was a fucking Comedy Central show.
russell peters
I know.
I did a couple of those.
joe rogan
This Is Not Happening.
russell peters
I did This Is Not Happening, but then he had the other ones that he would do live before he was recording them.
joe rogan
Yeah, what did he call those?
Were those called This Is Not Happening as well?
russell peters
No.
I think one variation of it was, but the earlier ones were some sort of road stories or whatever.
joe rogan
I can't even remember why he stopped doing the show now.
russell peters
I think it was because that little episode happened with...
When...
Who died?
joe rogan
No.
It was before that.
russell peters
It was before that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Somebody else died.
I think they canceled him, basically.
And then they replaced him with somebody else.
unidentified
I'm trying to remember what it was.
joe rogan
God, I can't remember.
russell peters
They fuck with Ari a lot.
joe rogan
Well, Ari's a wild man.
russell peters
Ari's a wild man, but if you know him...
joe rogan
He's a legit wild...
He's a beautiful person.
I love him to death.
russell peters
If you know him, he's a great guy.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
I love him.
I love him to death.
But he's a wild man.
But that's why he's a great comic.
He's wild.
There's a lot of great comics that are wild.
We just got to be more forgiving with those people.
They don't mean to be bad.
russell peters
Yeah, you got to understand people is what it is.
I always say it's about the intent.
It's not what they're saying.
Look at the intent.
See if they're actually being diabolical or if they're just not thinking.
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's like a lot of impulsiveness involved in some folks in our business, you know, and sometimes they think it's a good idea and you want to call them up, you know, right before they do it and catch them.
Usually you don't.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It goes out and then you go, hey, no!
russell peters
It's like a social media post, you know?
In the moment, you're like, this is what I'm fucking feeling and I'm going to put this out there.
And I've been guilty of it and I've stopped myself from it too at the same time, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of comics that, like, social media is not a healthy thing for them.
It's just too...
It's too much of a minefield, you know?
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's too fraught with peril.
russell peters
Yeah, and that's the thing.
I'm always careful about what I'm posting.
Like, I have this company that cuts my bits together for me and subtitles them, and then they'll send it to me.
I don't know what they're going to send me, because it's always, like, crowd work stuff that they're sending me, because I don't want to burn material.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
And...
And I'm like, fuck, that's funny, but I know that this one line in there is going to cause a fucking shitstorm of people to be like, what's wrong with you?
You can't...
And I'm like, you're missing the fucking point, pal.
joe rogan
Dude, I watched Step Brothers the other day.
You could not make that movie today.
You could not make it, and it was so good.
russell peters
You can't make a lot of things that we made five years ago today.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if they tried to make Step Brothers today?
But by the way, here's a question.
When was the last time you saw a really good funny movie?
Like a recent funny movie?
russell peters
We have not.
We have not.
joe rogan
They don't exist.
russell peters
It's hard because they're trying to incorporate too much.
joe rogan
Well, you're trying to be woke.
You're trying to apply these rules that are created by these people that just want to kind of control people's ability to express themselves.
russell peters
Well, they want you to show this world that matches their imaginary world.
You're like, but that's not my world.
joe rogan
Not only that, it's like, come on, man.
Do you really get offended when you watch Step Brothers?
Does that offend you?
russell peters
You got offended by Step Brothers.
You've got issues.
That's how I feel like the people that are getting offended have their own things that they're dealing with.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
And they just need somebody to blame.
joe rogan
Well, they're just deciding what people can and can't say and don't, you know...
Whatever they think is non-acceptable now in this new world of just calling out everybody for everything.
russell peters
I think about my act when I started like 32 years ago, and I'm like, holy shit!
What the fuck was wrong with me?
joe rogan
So many problems.
So problematic.
Hey, did you watch the Canelo fight this weekend?
russell peters
I was working.
joe rogan
You didn't see it at all?
russell peters
I saw the highlights.
unidentified
He broke his face.
joe rogan
Bro, he hit so hard.
russell peters
Broke that orbital bone.
joe rogan
He's one of those guys that, like, you know, some guys just have power, right?
But he works on it all the time.
russell peters
That's what I say.
He's the most, in every fight, he's the most improved fighter.
He always goes back and fixes anything he saw wrong.
joe rogan
Yep.
Well, the Danny Jacobs fight, remember his head movement?
russell peters
Yep.
It gave Danny problems.
joe rogan
We could give anybody problems, but it was also like he was showing his head movement in that fight.
russell peters
Yeah, because they used to say he just walked right in and then he fixed it.
There was a video of Deontay Wilder, yesterday I saw it, and he's looking really good.
Malik Scott King is training him now.
joe rogan
What is he doing with him?
russell peters
Oh, he looks like a completely different fighter.
I think if you could find that.
joe rogan
Oh, is he like using a lot of jabs?
russell peters
Jabs, and he's planting his feet, and he looks like a boxer now.
He doesn't look like a wild man just leaping off his feet and throwing these wild punches.
And I'm excited to see him fight now because he looked really sharp, looked like a real boxer now.
joe rogan
Don't you think he needs a few fights like that with lower tier competition?
russell peters
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at that.
russell peters
Sitting on him.
Bam.
joe rogan
The jab is very important.
He's going to need some tune-up fights, don't you think?
russell peters
He should definitely have a...
Just to see how that style works in the ring.
But he's moving.
You see the way he's moving?
He never moved like that before.
joe rogan
But again, he's a guy that has fucking preposterous power.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Power's so weird, you know?
russell peters
It is because he's so thin.
You're like, where's it coming from?
joe rogan
Well, Tommy Hearns.
russell peters
Yeah, well, Tommy, yeah.
joe rogan
Tommy Hearns, he knocked Roberto Duran out cold.
The only guy ever.
russell peters
Second round.
joe rogan
There's just guys that just have preposterous power.
And Canelo is a guy that has power but is constantly working on it.
There's a great clip of him working with Andy Ruiz.
And they're, you know that shield, that weird hand shield that they hold up?
russell peters
Yeah, the one you hold.
joe rogan
For hooks.
And he's like, this is not for speed.
This is just power.
Just power.
He's like, don't try to be fast with this.
Just power.
And you see him just...
Everything is, and so in that fight with Billy Joe, and Billy Joe kept doing that same lean over and over, like after he would punch, he would lean out of the way, and he just timed it perfectly with that uppercut, and threw everything in it.
russell peters
Yeah, that's the thing, he really watches you in a fight.
He's not like some knucklehead who knows how to, he really pays it, he's very aware.
And to me, I was never a Canelo guy before, but after the past five fights, I was like, you know what?
If I'm not a Canelo fan, now I'm a fucking hater.
But I am a fan now because I really appreciate his work ethic, you know, the way he fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, this.
See, it's about power.
Yeah, see, this is the thing they're working on.
They just...
And he'll do that over and over and over again.
So he's a guy who already had big power, but he's constantly working and developing that power.
So in a fight like the Saunders fight, there was massive consequences to anything that Saunders did.
Did you see?
How about that fight?
russell peters
I watched that fight.
joe rogan
The Chris Areola fight?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Chris Areola cracked him!
russell peters
He did a few times.
He had him on Queer Street a couple of times.
unidentified
A couple of times, yeah.
russell peters
Are you allowed to say Queer Street anymore?
joe rogan
Yes, you can stay.
It's an odd street.
russell peters
It is an odd street.
joe rogan
Well, queer is not even, it's not derogatory.
Like, queer is a distinction.
Like, it's a part of LBGTQ. Yeah.
Queer, it's okay.
Which is interesting, right?
Because queer used to be derogatory.
russell peters
My dad used to use that as a derogatory term to me.
I'd wear, like, I came on a pink shirt.
My God, have you become queer?
And I'm like, what?
joe rogan
Your father's accent's amazing.
unidentified
Does he really talk like that?
russell peters
He used to talk like that.
Have you become queer?
unidentified
And I'm like, what?
russell peters
My dad would use the, like, he was an English major, so he would always pick these words that would make it go, what the fuck?
My brother, we all lived in the same house, obviously, growing up.
And my brother was a bigger guy.
And then my dad would be in, we had breakfast the next morning.
My dad would be like, Clayton, what time did you come in last night?
My brother's like, you know, 2.30.
And he's like, I know I heard you lumbering around like a bloody elephant upstairs.
joe rogan
Bloody.
russell peters
Lumbering.
Lumbering around like a bloody elephant.
joe rogan
That's the thing about Canadians.
Canadians have adopted some of the vernacular of the Englishman.
russell peters
Well, my dad grew up in India under British rule, and we're mixed.
joe rogan
But I knew a girl from Canada, and she used to say she was going to the loo.
russell peters
Oh, she was just trying to be special.
joe rogan
Oh, you think so?
russell peters
I don't like when people say cheers either.
All right, cheers, pal.
joe rogan
You don't like cheers?
russell peters
No, when they're saying thank you.
Oh, cheers, man.
Thanks.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
Not like cheers with a glass.
russell peters
Cheers for the drink.
joe rogan
Cheers, mate.
russell peters
Cheers for the cigar.
No, motherfucker, thank you.
joe rogan
Right, right.
I see what you're saying.
russell peters
The term cheers for like a thank you bothers me.
joe rogan
Yeah, cheers.
russell peters
Because it's like, are you really going to fucking cheer?
Hey, Joe, give me a cigar.
Hooray!
joe rogan
Well, it's like aloha.
It's got a lot of names.
russell peters
This bothers me.
Unless you're Hawaiian, this bothers me.
joe rogan
Does it?
russell peters
It bothers the shit out of me.
joe rogan
You better not surf.
russell peters
I know.
People that take pictures with me are like...
joe rogan
The surfers love that shit.
russell peters
I get it.
For them and Hawaiians, I get it.
unidentified
Surfers.
russell peters
Random dudes are like...
joe rogan
Jiu-Jitsu guys like that too, Chaka.
russell peters
I know, it fucking bothers me.
joe rogan
Oh, that's where it bothers you, yeah.
russell peters
I'm like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
Listen, you're a part of the culture now.
You've got to adopt a lot of Jiu-Jitsu weirdness.
russell peters
I know, and I don't say os.
joe rogan
Os.
russell peters
Yeah, even John Jacques, I ask him about it, he goes, ah, it's stupid.
We don't use that.
joe rogan
Well, it's really not a jujitsu thing as much as it was more of a karate thing.
Os was a karate thing.
But it's like a respect thing.
russell peters
I remember the kiais.
joe rogan
Oh, kiais when you throw punches.
But os is like, you say it like, it's almost like kind of tongue-in-cheek when most guys do it.
Os.
But they're serious.
You know, they're saying respect.
It's like saying respect.
russell peters
I don't know how to use it, so I don't bother with it.
I'll use poha because you hear that all the time.
joe rogan
Poha's a lot of things.
It's cum, it's nuts.
russell peters
I believe I mentioned it on the last time I was on it.
joe rogan
They all do it.
They all say it.
Brazilians love to say poha.
Portuguese from Brazil is such a beautiful language because it's so flowing.
It's got like a sing song.
russell peters
Yeah, but if you hear the Portuguese from Portugal talk, it's a very different accent.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't even know what it sounds like over in Portugal.
russell peters
Yeah, because when I hear like, you know, the guys in the jiu-jitsu world speaking, and you hear them talking, they're always laughing and making jokes.
And you know they're making jokes and breaking each other's balls, but you know what they're saying.
unidentified
Oh, it's...
joe rogan
I was listening to Henzo.
Henzo Gracie has a clip on his Instagram.
russell peters
Yesterday he posted something in all Portuguese.
joe rogan
All Portuguese.
And I just like hearing it.
Play it.
Because Henzo's got the perfect Portuguese-Brazilian accent.
russell peters
Yeah, Henzo has that pitch he hits with his voice.
joe rogan
He's a fucking worldwide...
I would say national treasure, but he's Brazil's.
So he's a worldwide treasure.
russell peters
Yeah, he's a worldwide treasure, for sure.
unidentified
He's a entrepreneur.
That's it.
Let's look at the art of this academy.
Look here.
joe rogan
He's looking at pictures on the wall of, like, famous jiu-jitsu guys.
That's the famous mats of New York City.
unidentified
henzel gracie academy it's a beautiful language It's beautiful.
russell peters
It's when he does it, it sounds good.
unidentified
I don't know what he's saying.
russell peters
He sounds like he's just talking shit to you, doesn't it?
Because of the look in Henzo's face all the time, he probably is talking shit to you.
joe rogan
One of my favorite Henzo stories was Henzo live-streamed him beating these dudes' asses who were following him around trying to mug him.
russell peters
Oh, I remember that.
joe rogan
I remember that.
These poor fucks, they decided they were going to mug Henzo.
And he took pictures of his knuckles after he beat their asses, and it was like, what a great day.
russell peters
That was in New York City, right?
unidentified
Yes.
russell peters
Yes, I remember that.
joe rogan
This was pre-pandemic when New York City was slightly more safe, like quite a bit more safe, actually.
It's pretty sketchy now.
russell peters
I've trained with Half a couple of times.
joe rogan
Half's a dangerous man.
russell peters
Oh man, Half shows me dirty moves.
joe rogan
He's a mean dude.
russell peters
He's a great guy, and he'll be like, okay, show me what you know.
And I'm like, I'm scared of you, Half.
I'm not smashing you.
I'm rolling real light.
And he's like, you need to go back to the basics.
I'm like, no, I just don't want to fucking...
unidentified
I don't want to feel what you're going to do to me if I put my pressure on you.
joe rogan
How often are you training these days?
russell peters
Not as much as I want to.
joe rogan
What do you want to?
russell peters
I want to train three times a week, four times a week.
joe rogan
What have you been doing, like one or two?
russell peters
Yeah, lately it's been like once a month.
joe rogan
Are you doing other stuff?
Do you have like a personal trainer or anything like that?
russell peters
Nah, I just got my yoga ball and some dumbbells.
joe rogan
Dude, get a personal trainer.
Get someone who you're accountable to, so you have to show up.
They show up at your house.
All you need is a yoga ball and some dumbbells.
I mean, get a good trainer.
You don't need a lot of equipment.
Get someone who makes you do stuff.
russell peters
Yeah, I just want a jizz.
Otherwise, I have no time right now.
I finally got my kid back.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are rewinding us going, did he say he wants a jizz?
What are you saying?
russell peters
I want a bowl haul over the place.
joe rogan
I just want a jizz.
russell peters
I just want a jizz.
joe rogan
Just want a jizz.
You just like doing jizz.
So you got your kid back?
russell peters
I got my kid back, finally.
Well, I get him eight hours a day.
joe rogan
Every day?
russell peters
Not every day.
joe rogan
A lot of days?
russell peters
That's good.
joe rogan
How long were you guys separated?
russell peters
It goes back and forth.
joe rogan
You guys working it out, though?
russell peters
I mean, the courts are working it out, buddy.
You know how this system is not a good system, is all I'm saying.
joe rogan
My brother.
russell peters
I know.
I can't blame anybody but myself, so I'll take all accountability on this.
joe rogan
That's good.
russell peters
I know.
joe rogan
But good to hear at least you get to see your son.
russell peters
Yeah, I'm in a better place than when I was last July when I saw you.
joe rogan
That's good.
russell peters
Yeah, it was dark then.
joe rogan
Yeah, you were worried about it, yeah.
russell peters
It was a little dark time for me.
joe rogan
Yeah, it seemed like it was.
russell peters
Yeah.
You saved me.
joe rogan
How did I save you?
russell peters
I don't know.
Just being you.
I got a great girl now.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
russell peters
She's awesome.
joe rogan
Nice.
Look at you.
russell peters
See, things are coming up roses now.
joe rogan
You're always lucky.
russell peters
No, this time I really got lucky this one.
This chick literally saved my life.
Yeah?
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
I love to hear that.
russell peters
Yeah, it's a good thing.
I finally, you know, I got your match, you know?
unidentified
Beautiful.
russell peters
You got your match, I found my match.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got your match.
Yeah, that's a lot of life, man.
Finding compatible people, both friends and lovers, you know, everything across the board.
Even business people, you know, I know a lot of people that have a bad manager, a bad agent.
If you're lucky, you find all sorts of the right people.
russell peters
Yeah, I mean, it takes something to happen for you to realize you're in a fucked up place, too.
Yeah.
That pandemic kicked my ass, I gotta be honest.
That shit kicked my ass.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, out of nowhere, all of a sudden, you don't make any money.
russell peters
Yeah, and then you realize how much you were spending.
And then your accountant goes, hey, fuckhead.
Can't live like that.
I go, oh, I mean, I knew I couldn't live like that then, but now I really can't live like that.
joe rogan
Well, lucky for you, you had property.
You sold some property.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Get your head above water.
russell peters
Just tread, buddy.
joe rogan
But it would have been nice if you had that podcast already going, right?
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
See, that's what I've been trying to tell all these comics.
Like, listen, I know comics don't like to work.
They like to fuck off.
russell peters
We're lazy, that's why we do what we do.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're lazy, we're impulsive, you know?
And whenever people try to say that I'm disciplined, I always go, listen, I'm the fucking laziest, disciplined person you'll ever meet in your life.
I get things done, but I don't want to.
I mean, it's not like I get up every day and I'm like, yes, here we go!
russell peters
What time do you wake up?
unidentified
Early.
russell peters
And you go to bed late.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I get up, I always say goodbye to my kids in the morning, and lately I've been doing hyperbaric chamber sessions.
russell peters
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I didn't want to talk about it until I know whether or not this is legit.
russell peters
And?
joe rogan
And I don't know.
I don't know whether or not it's legit.
russell peters
Wasn't Michael Jackson doing that at one point?
joe rogan
No.
Maybe.
russell peters
Yeah, before he was doing the propofol, he was doing hyperbaric chambers.
joe rogan
That's right.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
He was.
It's supposed to lengthen your telomeres.
There's a study out of Israel where they did 60 sessions over 90 days.
And one measure of biological health and age is the length of your telomeres.
russell peters
What are your telomeres?
joe rogan
Your telomeres, I'll butcher it.
There's Michael Jackson.
russell peters
That's the old school one with the walkie-talkie on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a weird one, right?
Because it's all glass.
russell peters
What is it, just high oxygen?
joe rogan
It is, yes.
Here, well, let's go to telomeres first.
Google the term telomeres because I don't want to fuck it up.
But it has something to do, I believe, with your mitochondria and the length of your telomeres indicates...
It's an indication of health and of biological age, although the biological age aspect of it is disputed, but people like David Sinclair think it's a good indication of your biological age.
He's been on the podcast a couple times before.
He's a professor at Harvard, and most of his study is in anti-aging.
Yeah, but go to telomeres, please.
russell peters
Oh, that's how you spell telomeres.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I wanted to know the definition.
russell peters
I had it all wrong in my head.
joe rogan
Just telomeres, just so I could figure out how to say it.
Okay.
It's the end of a chromosome.
Telomeres are made of repetitive sequences of non-coding DNA that protect their chromosomes from damage.
Each time a cell divides, the telomere becomes shorter.
Eventually, the telomeres become so short the cell can no longer divide.
So this is as you get older, your telomeres become shorter.
And now Google telomeres, hyperbaric, the thing that you had already.
And what this is, for the first time, hyperbaric oxygen therapy proven to reverse biological aging in humans.
russell peters
Does that look like the ones you're doing?
joe rogan
No, I don't know what these people are doing.
russell peters
Are you doing chamber?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm in a fucking metal tube.
russell peters
Do you have one at the house?
joe rogan
No, no, but I'm gonna get one.
russell peters
I know, you're that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
You had the, you know, the isolation tank.
joe rogan
Sensory deprivation.
I'm getting one in here.
Yeah, we'll have one in here soon.
russell peters
With salt water?
joe rogan
Yes.
russell peters
I remember when you had it in your house when you, when I first started doing your podcast like 11 years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
russell peters
You showed it to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, people think it's creepy.
It's like...
russell peters
Yeah, because it is a very...
joe rogan
It's odd.
russell peters
It is odd.
joe rogan
It looks like a meat locker.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially the one that the float tank...
russell peters
That's the one I'm talking about.
unidentified
Yeah, the float lab.
russell peters
That's the one you had.
joe rogan
The float lab is...
They make the best ones.
They make these fucking, like, super high-end...
Crash down in Venice makes the most overly engineered float tanks.
They're so, like, he uses...
russell peters
What do they go for?
joe rogan
I don't know.
You have to ask him.
I'm not sure.
It's not cheap.
russell peters
No, I didn't imagine.
joe rogan
They're like 20 grand plus.
russell peters
Oh yeah, no.
Forget it.
joe rogan
But it's got like ozone to filter out the water from bad bacteria and kill any funk that might be in there.
Although the only person who goes in mine is me.
You don't have to have one like that though.
You can get one that's fairly cheap.
The first one I ever got was a Samadhi.
I don't even know if they make those anymore.
But that was just a few grand.
That was like, I think it was three grand or something like that.
But it's...
Much less engineered than these float lab ones.
These float lab ones are like super high-end.
russell peters
It's like the Porsche design one.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like he just goes, he's a mad scientist, crashes.
He's been on the podcast before.
He's a wacky cat.
But he's the guy who really, like, float tanks for a long time were a dying thing.
No one was using them.
russell peters
When did you discover it?
Because I know you had it 11 years ago when I... I first discovered it earlier than that.
joe rogan
I discovered it, I think, in the early, late 90s maybe, I think, the first time I did one.
And then I got one in like 2002. Somewhere around then?
2002, 2003?
I got one in my house.
And then I had a friend who was servicing my float tank and he told me about the float lab.
He's like, this one is okay, but the way it's made is not the best.
He's like, there's a guy in Venice that makes these insanely engineered ones.
And he showed me some photos of it.
He said, you'd really be better off getting one of these because you're going to have less problems.
Because one of the problems I had was my heating element had burned through my liner.
Something had shorted out.
russell peters
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
And it burned through the liner, and so it flooded the inside of the tank.
It went through the liner into the base of the tank, and it fucked everything up.
And so he had to drain it and fix it and do all this stuff.
This is not the best engineered one.
You really need to get a better one if you want to have the best experience.
It's just way better in terms of sound, insulation, and the Float Lab ones, they're incredible.
russell peters
How long do you sit in them for?
joe rogan
I like two hours.
russell peters
Two hours?
joe rogan
Two hours is what I like.
russell peters
Well, you're a little extreme, so what's the average time?
unidentified
An hour.
joe rogan
An hour is the average person.
russell peters
I see you posting those sauna ones, too, where you're sitting in the...
joe rogan
Yeah, I like that, too.
russell peters
What are you at now?
A hundred and...
joe rogan
I like 185, but it really goes up to 200. It's at 200, though.
It's weird.
The way those things work, Sauna, is it depends on where you're at.
If I'm sitting at the top bench, my head is in 200. But if I lay down in the bottom bench, I'm really at 185. How long are you sitting in that for now?
25 minutes.
russell peters
And sweating your ass off.
joe rogan
Sweat my ass off, yeah.
But it's like...
russell peters
My problem is when I get into a sauna, I get bored as fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, I listen to books.
russell peters
See, I'm afraid my phone's going to overheat or whatever I'm listening to.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't use your phone.
I use AirPods.
AirPods don't overheat for whatever reason.
I figured this out a long time ago.
russell peters
So you leave the phone outside.
joe rogan
I have AirPods specifically for use in the sauna because I have my one that I use when I'm talking on the phone that I never take in the sauna because the sweat gets into these things and it completely fucks up the microphone.
So if I try to call people, they're like, where the fuck are you?
russell peters
Sound like we're underwater.
joe rogan
It fucks up whatever the microphone is.
Like the soaking of the sweat.
russell peters
So these are just for listening.
joe rogan
Yeah, I only have...
I have one pair that I wear just when I'm inside the sauna.
And they don't burn out.
So you can listen to books.
So I'm listening to this book on Cabeza de Vaca, who's a Spanish...
Yeah.
He's a Spanish explorer that landed in North America in the 1500s and walked across the country.
It's a crazy...
You ever want to complain about the weather?
You ever want to complain about your life?
Oh, fucking COVID kicked my ass.
Listen to me.
Read this fucking book.
It's called The Land So Strange.
It's amazing.
My friend Hank told me about it.
He's the security guy at Kill Tony.
Big giant Native American cat.
russell peters
Oh, they got the hat on?
joe rogan
Yeah, that dude.
russell peters
Yeah, I met him last night.
joe rogan
Great guy.
Hank told me about this book, and he was raving about it, and boy was he right.
It's amazing.
russell peters
So are these the stories told from notes he left?
joe rogan
Yes, notes he left and then him telling a story back home when he eventually got rescued or made it back to Spain, which I believe happened.
I don't know.
russell peters
Wait, where did he land?
joe rogan
They landed in Florida, and they made their way across Florida, and then they got to the Gulf of Mexico.
They did all this with rafts.
They sailed, like, I don't know how many fucking miles in rafts, and then they got attacked multiple times by Indians when they would get to shore, and some Indians took care of them, and some Indians attacked them and killed them, and...
What a fucking harrowing journey, man.
I think I'm on Chapter 8 now, and so far they've been at it for 10, I think he's been in America for 10 years at this point, or close to it.
russell peters
How many people are with him?
joe rogan
Six years, seven years.
Well, they got down to four.
russell peters
Started with?
joe rogan
Spoiler alert, 400. Everybody died except four dudes.
russell peters
Wow.
joe rogan
It's fucking crazy, dude.
It is a crazy story.
And it also details what it was like in North America in that time.
Like the Mayan civilization, the Aztecs, the Native Americans.
It's amazing.
I love stories about what it was like hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
If you look at the world, in terms of like the hundreds of millions of years of people, or that, rather, hundreds of millions of years that life has been here on Earth, and then look at the amount of years that people have been here.
We've only been here like 300,000 years, 400,000 years, whatever it's been.
Then you go like 500 years ago, which is what this is.
That's nothing.
It's nothing.
It's a blink of an eye.
But my God!
It's so different.
In every way.
russell peters
I mean, you look at 100 years ago and it's so different.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
But this is really wild, man.
russell peters
Like, our civilization itself has leaps and bounds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
It's almost puzzling that we never fucking came across any of this stuff 500 years ago.
Like, we never thought about doing any of these things.
joe rogan
Well, we didn't have safety.
See, this is the thing that humans need to innovate.
They need safety.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
They need quiet, and they need peace.
You can't be fighting off catapults with fucking flaming bodies headed your way like the Mongols were doing.
When you're fighting wars constantly, and you're constantly being invaded, and you're worried about people raping your women and stealing your food, there's no innovation.
You're not going to get anything done.
russell peters
But they still had, like, their medicine men, and I'm sure they had, like, their, you know, what would be the tech people of the time, that they would, you know, these would be the warriors that would go out and do that, and then they would protect these people to, you know, to innovate the village or whatever.
joe rogan
There was no innovation.
I mean, all the medicine men, like, what were they?
They knew some herbs and some plants and some things that were good for you, but for the most part, you're fucked.
You get sick, you're fucked.
You break your leg, you're fucked.
You know, most of the time, you're fucked.
A lot of it was you're fucked.
russell peters
We went back to being fucked again somehow.
joe rogan
Nah, barely.
We barely did.
But I mean, the trend of moving towards good things has good aspects and bad aspects, right?
And the bad aspects is you could not make a movie like Step Brothers anymore.
People are trying to make things so safe.
russell peters
We evolved to devolve.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got a little crazy.
russell peters
Yeah, hopefully this all goes away.
I have problems with it, you know.
I have problems with it.
joe rogan
It'll balance out a little bit.
russell peters
It will, because there's this really weird balance of being told to be tolerant while the people...
Being intolerant.
Yeah, it's a very fucking...
I don't understand.
But you want me to tolerate you, but you're not going to tolerate my adjustment time.
joe rogan
Well, the compassionate people are the biggest bullies online.
russell peters
Yeah, well, it's fake compassion, right?
joe rogan
Well, they think they're doing the right thing.
They think they're doing the right thing.
They really do.
They think they're doing the right thing.
And they think they're fighting against oppression and bigotry and all these other things.
And in their mind, that's the quest.
That's what they're doing.
russell peters
Yeah.
I was walking around Austin yesterday and...
It was an ACLU booth in the middle of nowhere on Congress.
And it's a black dude standing there.
And he sees me and he goes, hey, you're that guy.
And I go, hey, you're that black guy.
And there was two white girls with him.
And they were like, oh my god, did he just call you a black guy?
And I'm like, do you think I'm the fucking guy that broke the news to him?
I go, he knows!
joe rogan
Well, not only that, if he knows you, he knows so much of your material is racial.
russell peters
Well, when I meet people, I like to talk to them on their level.
I'm not going to come here and say, Joe, there's this new Rain DJ system.
You're going to be like, okay.
You want to talk to people on a level where I want to let them know I recognize...
This about you, and then we'll go from there.
joe rogan
Well, your comedy is that.
Like, your comedy is, like, pointing out racial differences, but ultimately bringing everybody together through humor.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
If he knows who you are, he knows that's what you do.
russell peters
Yeah, he smiles.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's always friendly and warm-hearted, and it's playful.
It's all playful fun.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, but, like...
I've seen you get yelled at before about this, like online.
People get upset at you for your comedy.
It's like, come on, man.
You don't have to listen.
You don't have to watch it.
But obviously, the fucking arena's packed.
People are enjoying this.
There's definitely a group of people that don't agree with you.
They're not wrong.
russell peters
I always say the people that want to cancel you aren't the people that were ever going to buy a ticket to see you.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
russell peters
So I'm not really worried about appeasing them.
When I want to keep my constituents, you know, happy.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Yeah, it's, you know, people can just decide that what you do is no longer appropriate.
But to you, it was never appropriate to you.
You didn't like it in the first place.
russell peters
There was never a time you were going to enjoy me.
And if there was, then you're, you know...
It's a fucking odd time.
joe rogan
It's a weird time, Russell, but it's also a weird time for them.
It's like, you know, they're getting sucked into these ideologies too.
They're getting sucked into all this groupthink.
And there's so little, like, real one-on-one interaction when it comes to these kind of ideas and talking about things and what's appropriate and what's not appropriate.
russell peters
That's what the problem is.
There needs to be more conversations happening.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
russell peters
Like, if I have questions about, I have a trans friend, and I ask her questions all the time, that if you didn't know her and I were friends, you'd be like, are you attacking this person?
I'm like, no, I'm asking fucking questions so I can get some clarity, so I understand the situation better.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's funny that some things you can make fun of, and it's okay.
And everyone knows that you don't mean anything bad by it.
You're just making fun.
There's certain things you can make fun of.
russell peters
Well, yeah, when you're friends.
You know what I mean?
So once you're friends with somebody, you enter this other world of ball-breaking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
And if you don't know the person, you're attacking them.
I'm like, no.
I would never attack this person.
They're my friend.
joe rogan
Well, it's weird, too, to me that the Trump administration, during the time that Trump was president, really showed some hypocritical thinking by a lot of people.
Because one of the things you're never supposed to attack is someone's body.
You're not supposed to body shame.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
What was the thing they always attack?
He's got little hands, probably got a little dick.
Look at his fucked up hair.
Look how fat he is.
Like, it was all body shaming.
russell peters
Yeah, remember when the doctor said he's perfectly healthy and was like, no he's not, look at him.
I'm like, who are you to fucking tell, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
I didn't believe that doctor either though.
russell peters
I didn't believe that doctor either.
joe rogan
That doctor's full of shit.
That doctor's like, got one eye looking that way.
The fuck are you seeing?
russell peters
The version of him that I saw...
joe rogan
Yeah, like, what are you saying?
He's perfectly healthy.
Compared to what?
Like, if he's going to be in the Olympics?
Like, what are you saying?
How can he be perfectly healthy?
He's never worked out a day in his life.
He's nothing but cheeseburgers and speed.
And he's 75 years old.
Get the fuck out of here.
He's not healthy.
He's alive, though.
russell peters
Yeah.
Well, you know, saying with Joe Biden, you know, when I watch him talk, even I'm like, oh, come on, Joey.
joe rogan
Well, that's the weirdest one when people try to defend that.
They try to say there's nothing wrong with them.
They've kind of abandoned that now.
russell peters
Yeah, because it's becoming more and more apparent.
joe rogan
Well, it's worse.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the stress of the job is intolerable for anybody.
If you got a 35-year-old super healthy person in that job in a year or two, they would be a much more broken down version of themselves.
It's just an impossible job.
russell peters
If you think kids will age you, become the president of the United States and watch...
Look at Obama.
His hair started black.
He finished it was white.
It's the same thing.
joe rogan
Bush, too.
If you look at Bush early in office, then look at him late in office.
I mean, it's not a real four years or eight years that he's aging.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like decades.
russell peters
I wonder what his telomeres are saying after that.
joe rogan
Short as fuck.
I'm short.
Dying.
Like Trump's dick.
Get it?
russell peters
His little telomere hands.
joe rogan
There's no way.
There's no way you could do that job.
Nobody could do that job.
Everybody gets beaten down.
russell peters
And everyone's like, if I was, I'm like, go for it, stupid.
Go for it.
I want to see how long it lasts.
joe rogan
The thing is, Trump seemed to handle it, ironically, better than anybody that's ever done it.
Like, he seemed to age the least amount during that time in office.
And he was the most embattled.
russell peters
It's true.
I'll give you that.
joe rogan
It's true.
Whether you're a supporter or not.
And I constantly get accused of being a Trump supporter.
I did not vote for him.
I'm not a Trump supporter.
Not.
Not.
russell peters
It's not true.
I know you to be that.
joe rogan
It's crazy that people keep accusing me of it.
russell peters
I like when I watch people accuse you of things I know you're not.
And I just sit there and I giggle.
My favorite is he's a racist.
I'm like, oh, he's terrible at it if he is.
joe rogan
I'm a horrible racist.
russell peters
He's the worst racist I've ever met in my life.
You really got to work on this racist thing, Joe.
joe rogan
It's a lot of work.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's too many cool people on the other side.
You have to ignore so much.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you really wanted to be a racist, you'd have to ignore so many cool people.
russell peters
Yeah, I saw a picture of a...
It was a Klan rally, and it was all the white power stuff, and the guy was wearing Jordans.
I'm like, uh...
unidentified
I'm like, wait a minute, dude.
I hate black people, but their goddamn shoes are fantastic.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so dumb.
It's the dumbest thing of all time.
Being a racist is literally the dumbest thing.
russell peters
See, racism is the one that makes me laugh, because I'm like, there's no way you can really...
There may be people in the group that you don't like, and that's everybody.
Everybody has that feeling.
There's somebody in one race that I didn't like, but that doesn't mean the whole fucking race is tainted to me.
joe rogan
Well, first of all, it's dumb because all of us came out of one place.
They think now, this is what they think about human beings, that this is a weird theory, too.
I'll send you this, Jamie, because it's really strange.
They're not even sure if this is a theory that they're working on now.
They think that it's possible that First of all, they think that monkeys and primates came originally from Asia.
Here, I'm sending this to you right now, Jamie.
And then we evolved and became humans in Africa.
The thing is, they don't know how primates got from Asia to Africa.
I just sent it to you.
russell peters
It's a long journey.
joe rogan
But they think they might have fucking floated over.
It's a really interesting thing.
But my point is, all of us are African.
Everyone is African.
If you go back to the origins of human beings, everyone is African.
russell peters
That's where we started walking.
joe rogan
That's everybody.
And then humans branched out.
So even the idea of race itself is kind of preposterous.
We vary because our ancestors developed in different climates.
russell peters
Well, one of the arguments from the racist side is that their theory is that white people are more evolved, hence why they look least like monkeys.
joe rogan
That's so dumb.
russell peters
And I'm like, I don't understand this fucking theory.
joe rogan
Well, it's a dumb theory because it doesn't understand why people became white in the first place.
It's because we moved to a shitty climate where there's no fucking sunlight.
So the human skin, when not exposed to sunlight, gets paler and paler in a desperate attempt to soak up vitamin D. Right.
russell peters
But then you have the Native Americans who were a little swarthy.
unidentified
Swarthy?
What do you mean?
russell peters
Swarthy.
A little darker, you know?
joe rogan
Well, they came from Siberia.
russell peters
All of them?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pretty much.
They think that.
russell peters
There is a very common look between the two.
joe rogan
Well, they think it's also possible that there were some...
Because we're dealing with...
When you talk about Native Americans, you're dealing with like...
Pre-Ice Age.
Obviously, I'm not a historian, so take this with a grain of salt or a whole bag.
But if you're dealing with people that were in North America, like pre-Ice Age and during the Ice Age, they came down the Bering Strait, they think.
They came across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia.
russell peters
Yeah, the Mongolians.
joe rogan
But there's also some possible evidence that people came on boats as well.
russell peters
They don't really- They would have to have.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They don't know where the Olmecs came from.
That's a real weird one.
Those are folks that lived somewhere in South America that have African features.
And they have these big stone heads that were carved that were like 6,000 plus years old.
And they're like, okay, well, where do these guys come from?
They don't know.
So there's still some pieces to the puzzle that needs to be solved, but a large percentage of Native American civilization came out of Asia.
They walked across.
They somehow or another made it to North America and spread out.
That's the theory.
russell peters
There's that island off of near India, somewhere between India and Sri Lanka.
joe rogan
North Sentinel Island.
russell peters
That's the one, right?
With the black-looking people.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, they were from Africa.
russell peters
And they stayed there.
joe rogan
Yes.
They got in boats 60,000 years ago, and they landed in this island, and they can't figure out how to get out.
They just stuck because there's...
russell peters
And they're still very primitive.
joe rogan
Yes, because they don't have metallurgy.
They're not even necessarily sure if they use fire.
It's really interesting.
russell peters
To this day.
joe rogan
Yeah, to this day.
They believe...
I mean, you're not supposed to visit them because it's like one of the rare, true, uncontacted tribes left on Earth.
russell peters
Yeah, wasn't that guy that went there and he got killed?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, I have a whole bit about it.
Yeah, about the missionary.
He went to bring the Bibles.
russell peters
Yeah, that'll fucking teach you.
joe rogan
Well, it's a poor idea.
It's a poor bastard.
russell peters
I mean, the last thing they needed is that.
Couldn't you give them fire first, for fuck's sakes?
joe rogan
Well, these people had been fucked with, too.
There was a man named Commander Maurice Vidal Portman, and he was like an explorer slash pervert who would travel the seas and find these tribes of people and make them pose and take pictures with them wearing weird clothes and shit.
russell peters
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and he visited that place.
He visited a couple other places, and they think that people like that that visited, that exploited these folks and fucked with these folks, gave them a very hostile take on intruders.
And so when people come, like that guy who came with the Bibles, he probably didn't do his history, didn't read up on what had happened to these folks.
He thought he was just going to bring the Bibles.
russell peters
Yeah, I got the good word, guys.
joe rogan
That poor bastard.
He's like, you know, he got killed with a bow and arrow on the beach holding a Bible.
I mean, that is a rough way to go.
russell peters
I mean, at least he was holding his Bible.
joe rogan
Maybe.
At least.
russell peters
It's like St. Dominic, who died with holding the...
I think he was holding a Bible when he got killed or something.
joe rogan
Was he?
The weird ones, I shouldn't say the weird ones, the more tragic ones currently are the ones that are in the Amazon because they get murdered by logging companies.
russell peters
Yes.
They're trying to wipe them out so they get those trees.
joe rogan
Exactly.
They find them to be an impediment to their, I mean, not just trees, whatever natural resources they have that they're trying to exploit in the Amazon.
And, you know, they find these people slaughtered.
It happens.
And, you know, and also activists against these People attacking, they wind up getting murdered as well.
russell peters
Yeah, because they don't know the difference.
joe rogan
Well, it's not even just that.
It's like they cause trouble for them.
They're causing trouble for these companies that are trying to exploit the natural resources of these areas.
russell peters
It's a very interesting time we're living in.
joe rogan
Here's what's crazy.
Do you know a lot of the Amazon rainforest, which is this fucking insanely dense, incredible rainforest, a lot of it used to be populated, and a lot of the growth there is actually because of humans.
A lot of the plants.
And the reason why it's so dense is because of the stuff that human beings planted there thousands of years ago.
russell peters
And now we're trying to get rid of it.
joe rogan
Well, it's not even just that we're trying to get rid of it.
They're just starting to understand the whole ecosystem of that area.
Like, why it's so dense and what caused all this...
What caused all this intense, like, vegetation and brush.
And they think it's possible that a lot of it was caused by human beings.
See, find out what tree that is that they planted.
But there's some insanely prolific tree that they were harvesting and planting in these areas, and it took over.
Like, you remember that Lost City of Z? You remember that?
russell peters
The movie, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That movie apparently was based on what would happen when these explorers had originally come there.
Supposedly pristine, untouched Amazon rainforest was actually shaped by humans.
Over thousands of years, native people played a strong role in molding the ecology of this vast wilderness.
So we assume that you see this dense jungle.
Oh, it's untouched.
But it actually, they don't think it was.
So here it goes.
Describe the region of the world in a 1991 book marking the 500th anniversary of Christopher Columbus' voyage to a new world.
The native people were transparent in a landscape, living as natural elements in the ecosphere.
Their world was a world of barely perceptible human disturbance.
But was it really in a less...
How do you say that word?
Rhapsodical?
Rhapsodical verse?
Scholars in the past quarter century have shown that this mythical image of untouched nature is just that, a myth.
Like humans everywhere, Native Americans shape their environments to suit them through burning, pruning, tilling, and other practices, and the Amazon is no different.
If you look closer, you see the deep impressions that humans have made on the world's largest tropical rainforest.
Scientists reported yesterday in the journal Science.
Despite its vastness, the Amazon stretches more than two million square miles, an estimated 390 billion trees.
This rainforest is hardly the untamable, unstoppable force of nature that the Romantics opined, says Jose Iriarte.
russell peters
Iriarte.
joe rogan
An archaeologist at the University of Exeter.
In fact, humans have inhabited the Amazon for roughly 13,000 years and have been domesticating plants for at least 8,000.
And recent archaeological studies, especially in the last two decades, show that indigenous populations in the past were more numerous, more complex, and had a greater impact on the largest and most biodiverse tropical rainforest in the world than previously thought.
russell peters
What's the lifespan of those untouched humans?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
Not so good.
But hold on a second.
Stop right there.
Colleagues were taking inventory of the vast diversity of the Amazon trees.
They sampled 1,100 scattered plots far from modern human inhabitants to identify more than 16,000 different species among those 390 billion individual plants.
Then they noticed something odd.
Despite the broad diversity, over half of the total trees were made up of just over 1% of the species.
About 20 of these hyper-dominant plants were domesticated species, such as the Brazil nut, the Amazon tree grape, and the ice cream bean tree.
That was five times the amount researchers expected if chance was the only factor.
The hypothesis came up that perhaps people might have domesticated these species, which would have helped their abundance in the Amazon.
So they think they domesticated these species that they use for food, and then these species took over and just dominated the ecosphere.
russell peters
Like a wild weed?
joe rogan
Yeah, they've also started using something called LIDAR. And LIDAR is something they use from planes, and they scan the rainforest, and underneath this insane, dense, vast jungle...
russell peters
The LIDAR can see through?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
The bush?
joe rogan
It can see through everything into the ground.
And they've found these grids that indicate that there were cities there.
So all this shit that's incredibly dense and filled with trees now at one point in time had complex like roadways and irrigation systems and they think that the latest theory as it explores when they came there like this Cabeza de Vaca dude and these others that came from Europe probably gave these people the plague.
They probably gave these people diseases just like they did to...
90% of all Native Americans were wiped out by disease brought by European explorers.
russell peters
By the blankets.
joe rogan
They think that...
I don't think that's true.
I think the blanket part is fake.
It's just being around them that killed...
russell peters
The smallpox and all that.
joe rogan
I think maybe there probably was some people that gave people dirty blankets, but that's not what spread.
It was just disease.
Just the fact that...
Europeans were dirty.
They came over on boats filled with rats and shit and fucking brought horrible diseases that these Native Americans didn't have any immune system for.
Well, they think the same thing probably happened to the Amazon.
And so the lost city of Z, they think that these cities really did exist, that they did have these incredible cities.
And then when they came back just 20, 30 years later looking for these places, all they found was jungle.
russell peters
It was overgrown.
joe rogan
Because the people were dead.
Because the people died from the plague, and then everything got overgrown quickly by the jungle.
russell peters
And then the dead bodies probably fertilized the soil, which...
joe rogan
Bro...
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro.
russell peters
So these are human.
These trees are human trees.
joe rogan
History from morons.
For your pleasure.
russell peters
You're welcome, kids.
joe rogan
Google all this, though.
Read from real sources.
But it is interesting because you could see how this could happen.
The world is a wild place, man.
And when human beings start doing what Cabeza de Vaca and Cortez did and all these other folks did back in the day where they would travel to these new places, they would bring disease and they would kill off a lot of people that were there.
They think that's what happened to the Mayans, too, you know?
Incredible civilization.
russell peters
Beautiful structures.
Yeah, they had huge cities, the Mayans.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
russell peters
And some of it's still standing, you know?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
And still to this day, fucking incredibly gorgeous, beautiful structures that they mapped out the cosmos.
They, like, mirrored the cosmos.
They mirrored a lot of the constellations, you know?
russell peters
I'm excited.
joe rogan
About what?
russell peters
About just learning about all this stuff.
I'm all about...
I'm not so impressed by the tree, but I want to know who planted that tree.
It's very similar.
joe rogan
People trying to live, man.
That's the thing.
They were just trying to get by.
Just trying to stay alive.
russell peters
Then we've got to find their writings.
We find the writings and we need to find someone who can translate these writings.
joe rogan
Well, the Mayan writings are weird.
They're kind of like a hieroglyph type deal, but I think the way the Mayan's writing would work, They would have images that represented sounds like you would have an...
Someone explain this.
It might have been McKenna.
Like the way it would be written.
So like you'd have an eye and then you'd have the sea and then you'd have an ant like the bug and then you would have a rose like a flower.
And that would be how you say, I see ant rose.
russell peters
Yeah, that's exactly how I read that when you said it in my head.
And I thought I was being funny in my head.
joe rogan
I was like, I see it right.
I forget what that kind of language is called.
There's a very specific, it's a specific kind of language.
russell peters
It's almost like they were talking emojis.
Right.
joe rogan
Fucking Jamie had this idea a while ago.
Jamie was saying, like we were talking about like sending emojis to go, he goes, do you think that like maybe eventually that will be our language?
That like emojis would be, and we were both, I think we were pretty high at the time.
unidentified
Easy could happen.
joe rogan
Possibly.
russell peters
I can't see you being high, Joe.
That's weird.
joe rogan
And we were saying that could eventually evolve to be the next language.
How many times do your friends...
russell peters
Is it an evolution or is it a devolution?
Are we going back to that?
joe rogan
Well, it depends on how well it communicates, right?
If it communicates really well...
Like right now, if someone sends you eggplant and then water and then the crying tear face, that's probably like...
It's just funny.
russell peters
Yeah, I love doing that to people.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun.
russell peters
It's my favorite one.
joe rogan
It's fun.
russell peters
I try to have whole emoji conversations with people sometimes just to fuck with them, you know?
joe rogan
You're kind of getting something across, but what if eventually emojis became like a universal language, right?
russell peters
It kind of has been because you can communicate with people through emoji.
joe rogan
Sure.
And people that don't even speak English.
You communicate with them with a lot of emojis.
russell peters
These are all common denominators for everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're not the best way of communicating.
russell peters
They're not the best, but it's helpful.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But one day, maybe they'll have better emojis or maybe some sort of three-dimensional emoji that works with AR, augmented reality.
So it gives you a real inclination of what the person is trying to say without knowing their language.
russell peters
Yeah, like when I was about to, when my friend texted me before I came, he was like, hey, good luck on, and he didn't say Rogan, he sent me a gorilla.
Good luck on, and I was like, what?
I go, what is that?
He goes, Rogan, he's a fucking gorilla.
I go, yeah, he is a gorilla, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm more of a chimp.
russell peters
I don't know, I think you're very silverback-ish.
joe rogan
No, you ever seen a full-grown chimp?
They resemble me a lot.
Especially if I lift a lot, if I'm lifting.
russell peters
No, you do have those apishly long arms, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, primitive.
Sad.
That's why I'm so stupid, too.
russell peters
Yeah, you're clearly not the stupid one in this room.
joe rogan
Dumb genes.
russell peters
Me and your security guys were talking, and we're like, you know, we all think we know something.
Then we talk to Joe, and we go, I don't know shit.
joe rogan
Well, it's just me talking to so many people that know a lot and remembering some of it.
That's what it is.
I mean, you gotta think, I'm like 1,700 deep into these fucking conversations with professors and scientists.
russell peters
I like when you have Neil on.
joe rogan
Oh, he's coming on soon.
russell peters
Is he?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm excited to talk to him.
russell peters
Yeah, he's a great guy, you know.
I had a photographer at my house, and he was a young black kid, and he was taking some pictures of me, and he goes, because he showed me, he was wearing shorts, and I go, who's that on the back of your calf?
And he goes, oh, that's Neil deGrasse Tyson.
He's my idol.
unidentified
Wow.
russell peters
So I took a picture of his calf and I sent it to Neil.
And he goes, you need new friends.
joe rogan
That sounds like something he would say.
Yeah, he's a true.
russell peters
I sent it to him.
I said, a buddy of mine has you tattooed on his leg.
And he goes, you need new friends.
I'm worried about your choice in friends.
joe rogan
Guys like him are super important.
russell peters
Very.
joe rogan
Science communicators that are also like fun.
Like he's a fun guy.
russell peters
Yeah, he gets the message out in a way that dumb people like myself can understand.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
And that's what's important.
Just to be aware of the beauty of this mystery of this fucking universe that we're floating around in.
russell peters
And now they said, you see that they, I don't know if it's real, because you never know what the fuck is real on the internet anymore, but they say they found some sort of fungus life on Mars.
joe rogan
Yes, they think.
They don't know what it is.
russell peters
And they said it blows away overnight or some shit.
unidentified
Hmm.
russell peters
They were like, it was here yesterday, it's blown away now.
It's some sort of fungus that can grow very quickly, and then with a strong wind can go away.
joe rogan
Well, that makes sense.
russell peters
But then you would imagine Mars would be covered in fungus.
joe rogan
Not necessarily.
russell peters
If it's blowing around like that.
joe rogan
Not necessarily, because fungus exists here, but we're not covered in it, and it doesn't even blow away, right?
Like, if you go out into a yard after rain, you'll find mushrooms that weren't there the day before.
They grow really quickly.
russell peters
You ever tried those?
joe rogan
No, I don't know enough and they'll kill you if you eat the wrong ones.
That mushroom picking business is tricky because you really have to know your stuff.
There's mushrooms that have extreme liver toxicity and they look just like edible mushrooms.
They look real close.
I've had Paul Stamets on, and he's explained to me the complex nature of understanding.
There's some mushrooms.
If you see a morel, morels on the ground.
Have you ever eaten morel mushrooms?
russell peters
I have not.
joe rogan
They're really delicious, and they're very rare.
russell peters
What do they look like?
joe rogan
They look almost like a hollow pine cone.
They're weird looking.
russell peters
But they're a fungus.
joe rogan
They're a fungus, and they grow quickly, and they grow specifically around areas that have burned.
russell peters
Oh, yes.
I've seen a lot of fungus around burn zones.
joe rogan
Yeah.
For some reason, morels are associated with burn areas.
Not all the time, but people go and pick them, and they go morel hunting, and then you eat them, and they're really delicious.
You saute them with butter and garlic salt.
Yeah.
Russell.
russell peters
What are you tasting though?
Are you tasting butter and garlic salt?
joe rogan
No, you're tasting, they're a meaty, chewy, delicious mushroom.
They're really nice.
russell peters
And where do you get them?
joe rogan
Well, you gotta get them online or hunt them.
You gotta go gather.
russell peters
They sell them dried?
joe rogan
Yeah, they sell them dried.
Yeah, you can buy them.
You can buy them on Amazon.
russell peters
And then they just rehydrate once you cook them?
joe rogan
Yeah, you soak them.
What I do is I take a large pot, fill with water, and I'll add salt to the water, and I'll soak them.
And a lot of dirt gets off too, so you strain it and rinse them off, and I'll soak them for a few hours.
And then saute them up.
They're nice.
I'm telling you.
That's what they look like when they're cooked.
russell peters
Oh, I think I've had those.
They are quite tasty, actually.
joe rogan
Bro, they're delicious.
They're so delicious.
russell peters
Especially when they're a little charred like that.
joe rogan
Yes, nice.
russell peters
I'm a texture guy, so I like the crunch.
joe rogan
Me too.
Do you enjoy Indian food?
Are you an Indian food guy?
unidentified
I do.
russell peters
I love Indian food.
joe rogan
I fucking love Indian food.
russell peters
But I have acid reflux, so I gotta be careful.
I gotta plan it when I'm gonna eat Indian food.
joe rogan
What causes that?
russell peters
I don't know.
I've had it my whole life.
I've literally had it my whole life.
And then I went, a couple of weeks ago, I went and got, I had the old spit roast done to me, you know, the...
joe rogan
Oh, did they?
russell peters
The colon endo job.
And right before I went under, I told the doctor, I said, put an apple in my mouth, and then I passed out.
And then I woke up, and he goes, how was it?
I go, it was fine, except for both your hands were on my shoulders.
unidentified
Wah, wah, wah.
Wah, wah.
joe rogan
Now, what do they do for you when you get the acid reflux?
Do they prescribe a medication?
russell peters
Yeah, I'm on a medication.
I mean, it's also very...
It's not fixable, but it's manageable by what you eat as well.
For me, it's mostly for sleep.
If I don't have enough sleep and I decide I want to eat something that I know could trigger me, it'll really trigger me if I haven't slept enough.
joe rogan
Oh, so like you're tired if you're worn out.
russell peters
Yeah, yeah.
But if I've slept enough, I can eat whatever the fuck I want, do whatever I want.
joe rogan
That's the same thing with getting sick.
You know, it's amazing how much your immune system sort of regulates everything.
And when you're tired, your immune system is weakened.
And I know a lot of people that have gotten, like, really sick, well, they probably wouldn't have gotten sick because they're run down like fighters.
They're training for big fights.
A lot of people think, oh, fighters are in great shape.
They must be really healthy.
russell peters
No, especially when they're trying to make weight.
They dehydrate their entire body.
That's insane.
joe rogan
But even just the training itself.
When they're breaking themselves down, a lot of times fighters get sick.
A lot of fighters have gotten COVID pretty bad because they were in the middle of fight camp and they didn't stop training.
Like Cody Garbrandt, he had COVID, he got sick and he kept training through it.
So he just kept beating his body up.
They're too tough for their own good.
russell peters
Yeah.
You gotta listen to your body.
Especially the older you get.
You can't ignore the signs, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
So do they tell you what you should and shouldn't eat?
russell peters
No, that's what I was hoping for.
And he was like, no, you seem fine.
I'm like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
And what does acid reflux do?
Like you have like a burp almost?
russell peters
It's a bad burp, but you know your eyes are going to water because it burns when it gets up here.
joe rogan
Oh, so like that's the acid.
Yeah, the stomach juices.
russell peters
Like burns, burns.
Like my nose will run, my eyes will water.
unidentified
Really?
russell peters
On a bad one.
I've had some bad episodes.
Stress will bring it out too.
joe rogan
And how long does it last?
russell peters
I mean, it's depending on how bad of an episode I have.
I try to control it as best I can.
I'm aware of...
How it's going to affect me, when it's going to affect me, if I eat too much, if I eat too late, if I try to go to bed too soon after eating.
joe rogan
Have you ever tried fasting?
russell peters
Yeah, fasting's great for me.
joe rogan
Does that work?
russell peters
Yeah, it works well for me.
joe rogan
How many days have you done?
russell peters
I don't do days.
I do like 16 hours.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
russell peters
Then I'll eat something.
joe rogan
I haven't done days either.
I've done 24 hours.
That's the most I've ever done.
russell peters
Yeah, well, recently I just went like 22 hours.
I wasn't trying to.
I just had gone 22 hours without eating and I was like, I feel fine.
joe rogan
George St. Pierre just did a three-day one.
He said he felt fucking amazing.
I'm thinking about trying it.
I just have to time it right.
russell peters
Isn't there talks of him fighting somebody again?
joe rogan
There's talks.
russell peters
There's talks of him fighting Khabib or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't think Khabib is going to fight again, and I don't think George is going to either.
I think George is done.
You know, George is very happy and comfortable with his life now, and he's got his health.
russell peters
How old is George now?
38?
38. He's still got a lot of time left.
joe rogan
Not really.
russell peters
You don't think so?
joe rogan
No.
russell peters
I mean, when you're that elite, and you don't let yourself go ever...
joe rogan
Right, but there's a difference between...
It's a big difference between a 33-year-old Kamaru Usman and a 38-year-old George St. Pierre.
There's a difference.
George is the top of the food chain at 38, right?
In terms of how fit he is, how well he takes care of his body, doesn't abuse himself, he's always in shape, and he's always working out.
He's always doing something.
He's always doing gymnastics, he does his pool workouts, he's always doing jujitsu and kickboxing.
russell peters
He has not stopped.
joe rogan
But he's still 38. True.
russell peters
Camaro showed a lot of improvement over the years too.
Like every fucking time.
joe rogan
Dude.
russell peters
Every time I see him.
He's like the Canelo of the UFC almost to me.
joe rogan
He's a real champion is what he is.
You know what I mean?
russell peters
I'm curious to see how Israel's going to bounce back now.
joe rogan
Oh, he'll be fine.
russell peters
Oh, he'll be fine.
I agree.
joe rogan
I just think when you're going up to 205, you got to go up to 205. Especially when it comes to the wrestling.
Weight's real.
And that guy, Jan Blachowicz, that's a scary motherfucker, that dude.
That guy, you talk about power, like how people just have power.
He's just got power.
He's got crazy, preposterous, one-punch power.
And you always have to worry about that.
And then when he got Izzy down and he controlled him on the ground, he's just, size and strength is real, man.
Izzy never gained any weight.
So he went in and weighed in, I think, like 190-something.
Jovovich weighed 205 and probably went up to 220-ish during the actual fight itself.
russell peters
Israel's a thin guy to begin with.
I mean, he's got to grow into that size as opposed to try and put it on.
joe rogan
But he'll fight anybody, man.
He doesn't give a fuck.
He'll go up to heavyweight.
russell peters
And he's a really nice kid.
joe rogan
He's the nicest.
russell peters
Oh, my God.
I've talked with him on Instagram.
We DM each other.
joe rogan
He's the nicest.
russell peters
What a sweet guy.
joe rogan
I started contacting him long before he ever fought in the UFC. Really?
Yeah, I was asking him when he's going to do it.
Because I'd heard rumblings that he was thinking about making a leap into fighting MMA. And back then, he was just kickboxing.
And I was just a big fan of his style.
Like, I mean, how could you not be?
You watch his kickboxing highlight reel.
Like, if you think Izzy is great in MMA, and he is, most certainly.
russell peters
I've seen some old clips of him.
He's fantastic.
joe rogan
Fucking kickboxing.
He's a genius, man.
russell peters
And he's so thin, but he's got a lot of power.
joe rogan
Oh, well, he's so accurate.
He's just so...
russell peters
He's very Anderson-ish.
joe rogan
He's creative and intelligent and sharp and everything he does when he's fighting.
russell peters
He's not ring-worn.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's only been KO'd once, and that was a brutal one, against Alex Pereira, who's this ruthless knockout striker.
russell peters
And that was in...
joe rogan
That was in...
I think it was in Glory.
Might not have been Glory.
Might have been in another kickboxing league.
I'm not sure.
I think it was Glory.
But either way, Alex is a two-division Glory kickboxing champion.
russell peters
Did he ever rematch?
joe rogan
They fought twice.
Alex won a decision the first time, and he KO'd him the second time.
russell peters
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think the first fight was close.
The second fight, Izzy had him in real trouble, too.
He had him really in trouble.
And a lot of people thought the fight should have been stopped, but that's probably Izzy fans, you know what I mean?
russell peters
Yeah, there's a lot of that when that happens.
joe rogan
When a guy should and shouldn't be stopped is so controversial.
It's like Cowboy Cerrone this weekend, right?
russell peters
I didn't get to see it.
joe rogan
It was rough to watch.
russell peters
I'm assuming Alex won.
joe rogan
Yeah, he stopped him in the first round.
Alex is a bad motherfucker, though.
russell peters
He's tough as shit.
Cerrone's a tough guy, but I think he's had a lot of bad knockouts lately.
I'm not going to be the one to tell Donald Cerrone to not fucking fight anymore, but as a fan...
joe rogan
I wish fighting didn't hurt.
russell peters
Well, I mean, I think that's probably, you know.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
russell peters
It's kind of the essence of it.
joe rogan
I know.
I wish it didn't hurt people.
I wish you got out of your career and you didn't have to deal with brain damage and body damage.
But that's also one of the reasons why it's so wild and exciting to watch is, you know, there's severe consequences to their actions, you know?
russell peters
What about that fight that was supposed to happen with Anderson Silva and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.?
joe rogan
That's still happening.
russell peters
Is that happening?
joe rogan
I think it's happening in June.
See if we can find out when that's happening.
Yeah, he's taking a boxing match.
russell peters
I mean, at least he's taking it against a guy in the boxing world who's not very well respected.
joe rogan
He might not be as respected as some, but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is still a fucking beast.
You cannot sleep on that guy.
He is a dangerous man.
He hits very hard.
russell peters
But he doesn't have the work ethic that he needs.
I think that's what his problem is.
joe rogan
Remember when he fought Canelo?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he basically just went into a defensive shell and just survived.
But he did survive.
Billy Joe Saunders didn't survive.
But you have to say, Canelo today is better than the Canelo of then.
russell peters
Canelo of last weekend is better than the Canelo of the fight before.
I mean, he's a continuously improving fighter.
joe rogan
He talks about that, too.
He talked about that in one of the interviews that we're talking to him about pre-fight, about maintaining his energy.
And he's like, just because I'm at the top doesn't mean I'm going to slow down.
He goes, no, no, no, I'm going to keep going, keep going, keep that same energy.
russell peters
He understands it.
joe rogan
But he understands he's hit this rare air where he's the number one pound for pound fighter on earth and he's just so dominant.
You know, he's so dominant.
That fight with Billy Joe was so interesting.
russell peters
I was getting mad at people who were talking shit after this.
unidentified
Here it is.
June 19th.
russell peters
Wait, who's Chavez senior fighting then?
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
Hector Camacho Jr. Wow.
Wow.
Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., that's kind of crazy.
russell peters
Yeah, Sr. beat up Camacho, that's why, didn't he?
joe rogan
Wow, that's crazy.
russell peters
He beat up Jr.'s dad.
joe rogan
Did he?
russell peters
I think he did, like in the 90s.
joe rogan
What?
russell peters
Did he fight him?
I think he might.
Check BoxRec.
He may have.
joe rogan
I do not think that Hector Camacho beat Julio Cesar Chavez.
russell peters
Edwin Rosario was the one that gave Camacho a rough fight, and that's what made Camacho change his style.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah.
Edwin El Chapo Rosario.
He closed Hector's eyes in that fight.
joe rogan
Hector Camacho.
russell peters
He's the one that made Camacho the more defensive fighter after that.
joe rogan
I'm conflating.
I thought you were talking about Julio Cesar Chavez.
russell peters
No, no, no.
But I'm saying I think Chavez himself, yeah, he did.
He fought Hector Camacho.
The unanimous decision.
joe rogan
He won.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah, that's when he was undefeated.
joe rogan
I thought you were saying, I'm sorry, I thought you were saying that Hector Camacho would beat Julio Cesar Chavez.
russell peters
No, no, no, no, no.
That was never the case.
joe rogan
No, Chavez beat his ass.
That was when Chavez was the king.
There's only one fight there, that Purnell-Whitaker fight.
That's a questionable one.
russell peters
They ripped off Purnell.
I believed that.
Every time Purnell fought a guy from Culiacan, he lost to Jose Luis Ramirez, shady decision, and then he lost to Chavez, bad decision.
He lost to De La Hoya, bad decision.
joe rogan
I don't remember the Delahoya fight, honestly.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
Listen, Purnell got fucked so bad in boxing with decisions.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, for sure he did in the Chavez one.
That was a bad one where a lot of people...
russell peters
Even the De La Hoya fight, he got fucked on that deal.
joe rogan
Yeah, I believe you.
I don't remember that fight, though.
That's one of those ones where I'd have to go back.
There's so many fights.
You can only store so many of them in your head.
russell peters
I know.
Every time I meet a fighter, I'm like, hey, I remember you.
And it'd be like some bum.
Not a bum, but like a journeyman.
And they think you don't know.
And I'm like, I remember you.
Yeah, you were a good fighter.
Yeah.
Greg Haugen.
Greg Haugen.
I don't remember Greg Haugen.
joe rogan
Remember when Greg Haugen fought Chavez?
russell peters
Wasn't he from Boston, Greg Haugen?
joe rogan
Maybe.
russell peters
No, I was thinking Bobby Chiz, I'm thinking.
joe rogan
Bobby Chiz was from New Jersey, I believe.
russell peters
I think Greg Haugen was from just outside the Bronx.
What's that area there?
joe rogan
Greg Haugen?
russell peters
Yeah.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I want to say he was from Massachusetts or New Hampshire or some shit.
But I might be thinking of him.
I might be thinking of Joey Gamache, who is from Maine.
russell peters
Joey Gamache, I remember him.
joe rogan
He was from Maine.
russell peters
Yeah, he was trying to come up on the...
joe rogan
Greg Haugen.
Auburn, Washington.
So he's from Washington State.
russell peters
You know who used to train with Greg Haugen was Joey Medina.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah, they were stablemates at some point.
joe rogan
No shit.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, when he fought Julio Cesar Chavez, well, how old is Chavez then if Chavez is fighting again?
russell peters
If Haugen is 60. I think Chavez is like in his late 50s, if I'm not mistaken.
joe rogan
Fucking animal.
Animal.
58. 58. Fighting again.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
I mean, that's a guy who's, you know...
joe rogan
In his prime, dude, the Greg Haugen fight was him in his prime.
See, find Julio Cesar Chavez versus Greg Haugen.
I was watching a video that was breaking down what happened with that fight.
Because Haugen had decided...
He had played the bad guy, right?
And he had taunted him in saying that he fought a bunch of Tijuana cab drivers.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
He was great at talking shit.
joe rogan
But my God, he was a monster.
russell peters
Look at that liver shot.
joe rogan
Bro, he was so accurate.
He knew exactly where you were going to be.
Julio Cesar Chavez in the day was so slick.
I mean, everything about him was so good.
russell peters
And he would walk through you.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
And just his ripping shots, the body, his endurance.
russell peters
Always looking for the liver shot.
joe rogan
And his endurance was off the charts, like the volume of strikes that he would put on you.
He beat the fuck out of Greg Haugen in this fight.
And then after the fight, Greg Haugen was like, well, they must have been some pretty fucking tough cab drivers.
And then they hugged.
It was kind of cool.
russell peters
Yonkers.
I think he fought out of Yonkers at some point.
joe rogan
Haugen did?
russell peters
Yeah.
There was another fight out of Yonkers, too, back then.
joe rogan
Chavez was absolutely one of my all-time favorites.
When he was in his prime, he was just perpetual motion, man.
russell peters
Frankie Randall died last year.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Frankie Randall was the guy that really ended Chavez's reign, right?
Dropped him with the right hand.
russell peters
He was the first guy to drop him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Where did Frankie Randall die from?
russell peters
I don't know, to be honest with you.
Frankie the Surgeon Randall, I remember.
joe rogan
He had a piston of a right hand.
russell peters
I remember when he fought Chavez, he had those green gloves, or this lime green.
I remember that was like a baby blue.
It was one of those pleasing colors to me, I remember as a kid.
joe rogan
He beat him twice, remember?
russell peters
Yeah, he beat him in the rematch too.
joe rogan
Well, Frankie just had that style.
He had a perfect style for Julio.
But also, Julio was, you know, who knows how many fights in his career.
russell peters
He was on his way to 100-0.
unidentified
God!
russell peters
And Frankie had stopped.
Chavez was like in his 90-something fight.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
100-0 is crazy.
Yeah, when it comes to all-time greats...
Rando who died 59. Oh, result of dementia.
russell peters
Wow, that early too.
That's crazy.
What about those people that say Saunders quit?
I'm like, his fucking face was caved in.
joe rogan
Go back to that, Jamie.
Look at that.
Chavez was 89-0-1.
russell peters
That's what it was, yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck!
89-0!
russell peters
Yeah, the draw was with who?
With Purnell.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Was it?
russell peters
I think it was.
joe rogan
Was that a draw?
russell peters
I think it was, yeah.
The draw was with Purnell.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
I thought he lost a decision.
I thought Purnell lost a decision.
Was it a draw?
It might have been a draw.
If it was a draw, how the fuck did they not fight again?
russell peters
Yeah, it was a draw.
A majority decision draw at the top there.
unidentified
Oh.
russell peters
There it is right there.
joe rogan
Wow.
Majority decision.
But that's a majority decision.
That's not a draw.
russell peters
Well, it's still a draw.
joe rogan
No.
No.
Majority decision means one fighter.
It's a split decision.
russell peters
No, you can still get a...
How does that work?
joe rogan
But a majority decision is not a draw, is it?
russell peters
I think one...
joe rogan
Split decision.
russell peters
No, what it is is that...
joe rogan
Frankie Randall.
russell peters
One judge had it for Purnell, one judge had it for Chavez, and then one judge had a draw.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah, and I think if you're the champ, you get the...
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
russell peters
You get to keep your...
joe rogan
Oh, a majority draw.
That's what it is.
It's not a majority decision.
We're thinking of it the wrong one.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay.
That makes sense.
And most people thought that Purnell won.
russell peters
Yeah, I thought so too.
joe rogan
But there's always been...
When a guy is as loved as Julio Cesar Chavez and then the odds on him are so high, right, of him winning, then everybody gets weird, right?
Because, like, the judges...
russell peters
They want to protect the records.
joe rogan
Well, there's been some judges too, especially in Vegas, that will never work again because they put in...
Like, remember when...
Remember when Manny Pacquiao lost to...
Oh.
Desert Storm.
russell peters
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Bradley.
joe rogan
Tim Bradley.
That's right.
Yeah.
Sorry, Tim.
That's a brain fart.
He's a great commentator, too, by the way.
russell peters
He's a good commentator.
joe rogan
He's very good.
russell peters
The problem is he always looks like he wants to...
He's always talking about...
Well, what I... You know, it seems like he wants to come back, but he's not going to come back.
joe rogan
Well, you know, he's a great fighter.
When you're a great fighter, you look at things through the eyes of what you did or what you could do.
russell peters
That's the only way to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Lennox is a fucking great commentator.
russell peters
Lennox is a great commentator.
I've been hanging out with him a lot lately, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know who doesn't do that, who is a great fighter, who doesn't talk?
Roy Jones Jr. Roy Jones Jr. is a fantastic commentator.
russell peters
Yeah, I like Roy when he commentates as well.
I was asking, who was I asking?
I was asking Mike Sugar Ray Leonard if, why he doesn't train anybody.
And he said he can't, he can't train somebody who doesn't, he's never met somebody who has the same desire he had.
And I can't train, he said, I can't train somebody who's not going to dig as deep as I digged.
Doug, rather.
joe rogan
That makes sense, I guess.
russell peters
I was like, I just can't.
joe rogan
I'm sure he could find someone.
But, you know, a lot of great fighters are not great trainers, you know?
russell peters
Yeah, well those who can't do, right?
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that.
russell peters
Buddy McGirt's a great trainer.
joe rogan
He's a great fighter and a great trainer.
Some do become great.
I mean, it's really just a matter of your personality.
John David Jackson is another guy.
Great fighter, great trainer.
It doesn't always work that way, though.
Like, Marvin Hagler never trained anybody that I know of, did he?
russell peters
No, I don't think so.
joe rogan
I think when he was done, he was done.
russell peters
He walked right away from the sport.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
russell peters
Disheartened and angry.
He got fucked over early in his career, too.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did.
But he also is one of the all-time greats.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, the legacy that that guy left.
russell peters
He's from your state.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Brockton, Massachusetts.
Marvelous Marvin.
russell peters
He was a beast.
I remember the first time I went to a strip joint when I was 16. You went to a strip joint when you were 16?
So my boxing coach took me.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
russell peters
To go see the Leonard Hagler fight.
joe rogan
Oh, they had it at a strip joint?
russell peters
Yeah, because it was...
joe rogan
How distracting.
russell peters
Well, no, here's the thing.
Well, for me, it was horribly distracting.
It was closed circuit back then.
So he took me to the strip joint, maybe about three or four miles from my house, and he was like, come on, we're going to go watch the Hagler-Leonard fight.
And he walked me right into the strip joint, and he paid whatever the cover charge, I think it was $10, and I had never seen naked women...
Like in real life.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
And I just remember sitting in Pervert's Row and I didn't care about the fight at that point.
I was just like, oh my God, there's a vagina in front of me.
And I was, I can only imagine the look on my face.
I was just like, aw.
And then the club never got the fight.
So they started throwing bottles in the club and I'm not even paying, the bottles are whizzing past my head and I'm just, just staring at vaginas.
joe rogan
So like there was a problem with the pay-per-view or something?
russell peters
Yeah, something happened with their feed.
joe rogan
Oh.
russell peters
And everybody, they were kicking everybody, they made an announcement, everybody please exit the building, we're giving refunds on the way out, and I was just like, alright, I got up and I walked out, I got 10 bucks, and I was like, where the fuck's my coach?
He left!
Because they didn't have a fight, so he went to another place.
And he wasn't about to find me.
joe rogan
You were 16. He just left you there.
russell peters
He just left me there.
And I walked out.
I walked back in to try and find him again.
And then when I walked out, I got another 10 bucks.
And I was like, I'm up 20 bucks right now.
I'm 16 with 20 bucks.
1987 with 20 bucks?
You kidding me?
joe rogan
Did you take a cab home?
russell peters
No, I jogged home.
joe rogan
Oh, with the 20 in your pocket.
russell peters
Yeah, it was late.
And I was a young kid.
I was boxing.
So I was...
joe rogan
Use it as an excuse to do some road work.
russell peters
I jogged home.
I was happy.
I didn't even notice the jog.
I was just like, I got home and I remember painting the ceiling when I got back that night.
It was just like, wow.
joe rogan
These kids today, they don't know.
They don't know.
They can watch fights on their phones.
Like, you could have watched the Canelo fight.
You could have been anywhere.
If you have 5G, you just pull up your phone, get on the DAZN app, and you can watch the fight anywhere you are.
Back in our day, we had to go places.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember those days?
The closed circuit days?
russell peters
I was in Omaha when the fight happened, so I don't know where I was going to watch this.
I was in my green room, and my assistant, Eddie, texted me.
He goes, hey fool, the fight's starting.
And I was about to go on stage.
I go, all right.
I thought he meant like the card was starting.
joe rogan
Oh, the actual fight.
russell peters
Yeah, so when I got off, I go, as the main event started, he goes, yeah, I text you already, fool.
I'm like, all right.
And then what happened?
He goes, go look at the highlights.
And I opened up my Instagram, and there it was.
joe rogan
That fucking uppercut he hit him with.
russell peters
My God.
Nasty.
joe rogan
Canelo is in this weird place where he's kind of cleaned out the division, right?
He's got Caleb Plant.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
And not just that division.
He's kind of cleaned out a lot of divisions.
Triple G is still in the fucking running, which is interesting.
russell peters
He hasn't fought in two years.
joe rogan
No, he fought recently.
Triple G fought...
russell peters
He fought last year.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
It's been a year, though, definitely since he fought last.
joe rogan
I don't think it's quite a year, because I was in Texas.
I watched it in Texas.
russell peters
Live, or...?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Find out when he fought.
But he looked fucking good, dude.
Not only did he look good, he looked ripped.
So I was like, hmm, piss test please.
russell peters
Because he's like 38. He's bordering 40 real quick.
joe rogan
Looked as good as he's ever looked.
He looked phenomenal.
December.
russell peters
Oh, December.
joe rogan
There you go.
russell peters
Oh, okay.
So it's not been that long then.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
So is he fighting?
When the fuck is he fighting again, then?
joe rogan
Well, they're talking about him possibly fighting Canelo.
russell peters
I don't think that's a good fight for him anymore.
joe rogan
For him?
Maybe not, but maybe the last chance at romance.
I mean, how much more of an option does he have?
I mean, where's he going to go?
What else does he have?
But the first fight, I thought he won.
russell peters
Definitely.
I was at that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought he won the first fight.
russell peters
I was ringside there.
joe rogan
The second fight, very close.
Very close.
And Teddy Atlas was saying they should have given it to Triple G. A lot of other people favored Canelo, but a much better performance for Canelo.
But I think Canelo, like we said, these guys like Kamaru Usman, like Canelo Alvarez, like these guys who are just consummate champions...
You're just gonna get a better version of them every single time they step into the ring.
Every single time they get in the cage.
russell peters
Yeah, Kamara shows improvement.
joe rogan
Every time.
russell peters
Impressive improvement.
joe rogan
Like a young fighter.
He shows improvement like a 22-year-old guy who's just learning the game.
russell peters
Like, I was nervous when he fought Covington.
I was at that fight.
And I remember sitting with Covington's family because Chuck Zito got me the tickets.
So I was sitting there and then when the main event started, I noticed all the MAGA hats and And Candace Owens was sitting there and I was like, fuck, I don't want to be on this side.
I don't want my friends to see me sitting here.
So Clay Guida was sitting across the aisle and I go, Clay, who's sitting there?
He said, nobody, some sit with me.
So I moved across the aisle and sat with Clay that fight.
joe rogan
Dude, did you see, speaking of manga, did you see Shane Gillis' sketch that he did on Trump doing speed dating?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
Holy shit is it funny.
russell peters
Who's Shane Gillis?
joe rogan
Shane Gillis is the guy that got kicked off of Saturday Night Live.
russell peters
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got hired from Saturday Night Live and then they found him on a podcast talking shit.
russell peters
Just random like this, just words, nothing.
joe rogan
We're fucking around, like comics do.
russell peters
We spitball and say the most obscene things, and then we realize this works, this doesn't work.
joe rogan
The problem is people take things out of context.
russell peters
Absolutely.
100%.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, man, you've got to watch this.
You'd have to watch it.
I don't want to play it.
I want people to watch it.
Trump speed dating, Gilly and Keeves.
It's only got 29,000 views.
It should have 29 million.
It's fucking brilliant.
I'll put it up on Twitter or whatever later today.
It's so good.
It's so funny, man.
It's brilliant.
russell peters
Have you done...
Shit, it's horrible.
I can't remember the guy's name.
He's a friend of mine, too.
And I just did his podcast.
He does it in character.
joe rogan
Jim Norton?
russell peters
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Chip Chipperson?
russell peters
No, he was an SNL member at one point, too.
joe rogan
He does it in character.
russell peters
He'll do a different character every time he interviews you.
So when I did it, he did it as Jimmy Fallon.
joe rogan
Who are you talking about?
russell peters
Fucking hell.
joe rogan
Do you know who he's talking about?
Jamie?
russell peters
I feel bad.
The worst part, he's a friend.
joe rogan
Real good friend?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Real tight?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
If somebody says, hey, that hilarious guy from Canada, you know who he is.
You're going to get hurt real bad.
I'd be like, oh yeah, that guy.
russell peters
Jeff Richards.
Fuck me in the eye.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
I haven't done it.
No.
russell peters
Yeah.
When I did it, he did it as Fallon, and then he just had on Sherry Oteri, and he did it as a different character.
It was really funny as well.
joe rogan
You know who I had on recently from Saturday Night Live?
Jim Brewer.
He was fucking fantastic.
russell peters
I watched it.
It was awesome.
joe rogan
He's so funny, man.
You want to talk about a guy who never got his just due, never got his respect that he deserves as a comic?
He's one of the funniest fucking guys ever.
He's so funny.
russell peters
You know what it was?
They look at the industry.
Here's your opportunity.
In the 90s, they gave it early and he excelled with it.
And then for some reason, they move on.
joe rogan
He didn't want to do it anymore.
No, with him, it's not that.
It's not that they move on.
He didn't give a fuck.
Like, he even talked to his wife about it.
She was like, why do you keep doing this show?
It makes you miserable.
He had terrible things to say about doing the show.
He did not enjoy it.
He had terrible things to say about the way he was treated, the way they would rip off material and steal sketches from each other.
Not good.
russell peters
I mean, him and Dave, Dave really, they worked together a lot.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Well, half-baked, you know?
russell peters
Yeah, half-baked.
Then they had a sitcom together...
joe rogan
They did?
russell peters
In the 90s, yeah.
They did?
It was like a buddy show.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was a lot of those sitcoms.
russell peters
That's how him and Dave forged the friendship for Half Baked.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
russell peters
It's called Buddies.
It was called Buddies.
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
Show me what that looked like.
I'm kind of vaguely remembering this.
russell peters
Yeah, I remember...
joe rogan
Buddies.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
Okay.
Richard Cohn.
Look at it!
unidentified
Look at the old Jim Boyd!
joe rogan
Well, yeah, they're on Home Improvement there, but...
Oh.
Was it an ABC sitcom?
unidentified
Is that what it was?
russell peters
I think this was like, this is what spawned the spin-off for them.
joe rogan
Oh.
What?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Wow.
Sitcoms.
Boy.
russell peters
I was on set for Half-Baked a lot, hanging out in Dave's trailer back then in the night.
It was shot in Toronto.
And I would hang out in Dave's trailer.
He had a white Pomeranian named Thelonious back then.
Dave's always been a fucking amazing guy.
joe rogan
He's on another level now.
russell peters
Oh, it's incredible.
joe rogan
We've been doing a lot of shows together.
Yeah.
He's beautiful.
I love what he stands for, too.
We put this clip up on the Instagram.
russell peters
I saw it.
joe rogan
The kindness conspiracy.
That's really how he is, man.
russell peters
He's always been like that, too.
It's not like it's not a new thing for him.
He's always been that guy.
joe rogan
He's always been a sweetheart of a guy, but now he's really trying to push that out there.
russell peters
See, as far as I'm concerned, he's the real woke.
Like, that to me is what woke should be.
joe rogan
Right, right.
russell peters
It's not this fake...
joe rogan
Angry woke.
russell peters
Yeah, it's a real wokeness he has.
joe rogan
It's not...
Well, woke is tainted.
The word's tainted.
But real compassionate.
Kind, compassionate person.
russell peters
Well, that's what woke should be.
If you're actually woke, you'll be compassionate and understanding to other people's ways of thinking.
joe rogan
But I think what woke means to a lot of people that adopt it is, like, activism.
You know?
Like, calling people out and yelling at people and a lot of this...
Very angry shit that we see online today.
But it's, you know, a lot of it is also, you're just dealing with a lot of people that are very unhappy.
And they're unhappy and they express that unhappiness.
russell peters
There's too much voices for people that don't need a voice.
joe rogan
Ooh, look at what you said.
russell peters
You know what I mean?
And you know what I'm noticing, too?
It's not so much that there's these people externally, it's the industry itself that's doing this.
joe rogan
Well, it's the world that's doing this, and it's accentuated through social media.
I mean, if you ever see the documentary, The Social Dilemma, they talk about how this is happening and that the algorithms are actually enhancing and even reinforcing this kind of behavior.
People aren't necessarily naturally inclined to form these tribes and hate on people that disagree with them.
You know, people...
I think, generally speaking, would like to be reasonable.
People like to get along with people.
They have opinions, but they like to get along with people.
But when you reinforce these thought bubbles and you reinforce these echo chambers, which is what online algorithms do, whether it's Facebook or Twitter or whatever.
russell peters
It's also about how you look to other people.
It's so much about appearance as opposed to the substance behind it.
unidentified
What do you mean?
russell peters
Well, people, you know, you put this face out for the social media world, and then you're this piece of shit behind it.
joe rogan
Right, there's a lot of that.
russell peters
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
And there's a whole generation of it now.
This whole chicken nugget generation that's coming up right now.
joe rogan
Chicken nugget generation?
russell peters
Yeah, so their fucking palate is chicken nuggets, you know what I mean?
They grew up eating fucking chicken nuggets.
Our kids are the chicken nugget generation.
joe rogan
Well, these kids are definitely, they're weird in the way they think you should communicate.
Growing up communicating online has got to be fucking terrible for the way your brain functions, the way your brain forms.
russell peters
It's the same thing with shopping and music and everything.
There's a reason that things are very thin and shallow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it's also, coincidentally, at the same time, this is the best time ever for long-form, intelligent conversations.
So think of that.
russell peters
It is, but it's not being used that way.
joe rogan
But it is, right here.
russell peters
Well, right here it is.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of these.
russell peters
But you also have people our age that are doing this, because we understand both sides of this coin.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's some kids in their 20s that have some pretty badass podcasts.
People are trying.
They're talking about things.
And this is the antidote, or at least the counterpoint, to this shallow online culture.
russell peters
I feel like Andrew Schultz is the guy that can speak to the younger generation.
As well as our generation to talk to each other, he's that conduit between our world and their world.
joe rogan
He's certainly one of them for sure and he's one of the most intelligent and reasonable guys of the young up-and-coming generation and one of the most He's one of the most thoughtful, also one of the most clever, in terms of the choices he makes and the way he, like, doing the thing that he did for Netflix and taking the time during the pandemic to innovate.
I'm a big fan of the way he moves.
russell peters
Absolutely.
I also feel like he's the guy who can explain to these people why these people are this way and why this isn't bad and why it should be okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's what he did with those Netflix clips.
russell peters
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah, those Netflix clips.
russell peters
He killed it.
And there's so many fucking jokes that he drops in there.
It's like watching an episode of Veep.
You catch jokes.
You have to watch it five, six times in order to catch every joke.
joe rogan
Well, his is like visuals and punchline after punchline after punchline.
unidentified
It's incredible.
joe rogan
Rapid fire.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
It's like a fucking semi-automatic coming at you.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know, the...
Every generation needs someone who's out there pushing the boundaries and out there trying to innovate and trying to hustle.
russell peters
He's a non-tapper.
He won't tap.
joe rogan
That's right.
That's right.
He's not tapping.
Some people tap too quick.
russell peters
Yeah.
I tapped with you quick, but it was in pain.
What do you want from me?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Listen, you had me in a calf slicer.
That fucking thing hurts, dude.
joe rogan
It was not a calf slicer.
unidentified
No, no.
russell peters
It was a calf slicer on the way to the move.
joe rogan
I was just setting up the twist.
russell peters
Yeah, yeah, and that hurts.
I'm glad I tapped when I tapped.
I'll tell you this.
joe rogan
I wasn't mean to you, though.
No, you weren't mean.
russell peters
No, no, no.
Listen, you weren't a bully.
You had me in a move on the way to a move.
You know, it's pressure.
It's like tapping because of pressure.
It's the same thing.
You know, Jean-Jacques is not going to tap from pressure.
joe rogan
Well, you're never going to get Jean-Jacques in that position.
You're not getting him in that position.
russell peters
Did I ever tell you when I was rolling with him?
Must have been about a year and a half ago.
My ankle to this day still hurts.
From what?
He's in my guard and had my leg up high on his back.
And I'm like, ooh, I'm going to try rubber guard.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
russell peters
So I had my leg up high on his back.
Like right around here, you know?
And he feels my leg up high and I reach over and he goes, you're not flexible enough!
And having never done Rubber Guard, seeing videos of Eddie do it and all these guys in 10th Planet do it, and I go, I'm going to try Rubber Guard.
But because he said, you're not flexible enough, my ego went, I'm gonna fucking go for it.
And I didn't know that I had to grab my leg.
I grabbed my foot.
joe rogan
Oh.
russell peters
And I cranked my foot.
joe rogan
And you hurt your own ankle?
russell peters
I hurt my own.
To this day, it still hurts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
I literally, I fucked myself over.
joe rogan
To this day?
russell peters
To this day.
joe rogan
Did you get an MRI or anything?
russell peters
No, I have not.
But it's not been hurting lately.
And my girl gets mad because I'm like, babe, can you run my ankle?
It's swollen today.
She goes, no, I'm fucking tired.
And that's the problem.
When you date a girl your own age, you're like, you can't pull the same old man shit on her.
You're both exhausted.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
russell peters
I'm like, you don't know what it's like.
I'm going to be 51 this year.
He's like, motherfucker, I'm going to be 49. I don't need your bullshit.
I'm like, god damn it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to be careful with the rubber guard.
Rubber guard, you want to grab below the ankle.
russell peters
You want to get it.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
russell peters
Guess who figured that out?
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to get it right here.
This is what you want.
russell peters
So you want it underneath.
I was trying to go from over the tops.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
I went over the top and grabbed my foot.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want to do that.
But there is sometimes you do grab your foot.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes when you double bag, you have to grab your foot.
You have to grab your foot and make a transition.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do.
russell peters
I found it the hard way.
joe rogan
You should take some 10th Planet classes.
russell peters
I really should.
joe rogan
Learn some shit.
russell peters
I would like to do it with Eddie.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll do it.
I'll set it up.
russell peters
Yeah, that'd be great.
joe rogan
Eddie's the best.
russell peters
Because I know Eddie's been going gi lately.
joe rogan
Oh, he'll do both.
You know, he likes to fuck around with gi.
russell peters
Yeah, he's been coming back and hanging out and doing gi.
joe rogan
Yeah, when I met Eddie, he was all gi, you know?
russell peters
Yeah.
I saw a picture.
I saw pictures.
I didn't know he had long hair and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, he had crazy long hair back when he was in his rock and roll days.
He used to put his hair in like a scuba helmet.
Like, not a scuba helmet, like a mask.
Like, he would tuck all his hair because he had this, like, his hair down to his ass.
russell peters
It was like a metal head.
joe rogan
So he would, like, I don't know what he would do, but he'd wrap it all up like a seek and fucking tuck it in this fucking...
russell peters
Tie it under his chin and stuff?
joe rogan
He had this whole fucking scuba thing that he would put on his head when he would roll.
unidentified
Yeah, the guys...
russell peters
A lot of the black belts in the gym, they're like, you know, we used to think he was a weird guy.
joe rogan
Look at him.
russell peters
Hilarious.
Look at him.
He's so pretty.
joe rogan
Beautiful face.
What lips.
Look at his features.
russell peters
I'm just happy when people come up and go, hey, Eddie.
I go, no, it's Russell.
And I'm like, all right.
joe rogan
They think you look like Eddie?
russell peters
I posted a picture of him and I, and we're together, and I go, we are not the same person.
joe rogan
Who the fuck thinks you guys are the same person?
russell peters
A lot of people think because of my hair and his hair, you know?
joe rogan
Okay.
russell peters
And, you know, I guess the...
joe rogan
Those people need to go to a doctor.
russell peters
Maybe big eyes.
Hey, man, I'm happy when they think I'm him.
They just see pictures.
They go, ah, it must be Eddie.
You ever seen Eddie do stand-up?
I've been in the room when he's done it.
joe rogan
Bro, he's got some funny shit.
russell peters
Because he's nuts.
joe rogan
He's fucking funny.
russell peters
He is funny because he's insane.
joe rogan
He's definitely insane, but he's got some bits about, well, I don't want to give away the premises.
I'll fuck it up, but he made me laugh, like legitimately made me laugh.
I started getting him to do open mic nights like, God, five, six years ago maybe?
Way long time ago, and he quit.
He did it like, this was like 2003, somewhere around then.
russell peters
Is Sam out here now?
joe rogan
Tripoli?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, I don't believe so.
russell peters
Where did he move to?
Didn't he move?
joe rogan
Did he move?
russell peters
I heard he moved.
joe rogan
I don't know.
So LA's kinda opening up again, right?
russell peters
Yeah, I think the store opened this past weekend.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
You're the Pied Piper, though.
Everybody came out, Joe's going, we're going.
joe rogan
Well.
It's a great place.
There's a lot of clubs out here now.
russell peters
Aren't you, are you opening one?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
When's that happening?
joe rogan
It's complicated.
I'll tell you off air.
russell peters
Okay.
joe rogan
There's a lot going on.
It's not easy to do one of those things.
russell peters
Well, when it eventually does open, I would love to play it.
joe rogan
You will.
russell peters
That'll be great.
joe rogan
When it does, 100% you will.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, when I send up the bat signal, you'll be one of the first people I call.
Opening up one of these things takes a lot.
There's a lot of shit.
russell peters
A lot of red tape.
A lot of red tape.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of things that have to happen.
russell peters
It's a perfect storm situation.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's interesting.
I love being out here, though.
I'll tell you that.
I'm enjoying it.
russell peters
You like it a lot?
joe rogan
Very much.
russell peters
Have you been doing a lot of hunting?
joe rogan
No.
No, I haven't done any hunting since I've been here.
russell peters
There's got to be some good hunting out here, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's hunting and then there's like air quotes hunting where it's like you're in a fucking fenced in area.
russell peters
Yeah, that's like fishing in a stocked pond.
joe rogan
Yeah, a small stocked pond.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
They have feeders.
They do hunting over feeders here.
So they have these feeders that drop food, and then these animals get accustomed to the feeder going off every day at 9 a.m.
So people sit there in a tree stand at 9 a.m.
waiting for these animals to come and get their food.
russell peters
Yeah, it's not good.
joe rogan
Well, it's one thing if you're trying to eradicate...
If you have pigs and you're trying to eradicate an invasive species, like wild pigs, then I understand why you'd have a feeder.
But it's harvesting more than it's hunting.
You're not going out in the wild looking for a wild animal.
You're kind of tricking them.
russell peters
That's not fair.
joe rogan
What is fair?
You have a gun.
It all gets weird, right?
The non-hunters are like, yeah, if you're a real man, you'd use a fucking knife.
Okay, if I was a real man, I'd use my hands.
Why would I even use a knife?
That seems stupid.
Yeah, use your hands.
Well, then I'd starve to death.
Like, what are you saying?
That's one of the things in this book, A Land So Strange.
It details the Native Americans and their persistent hunting.
Persistence hunting where they would chase these animals down and just run after them until they drop dead.
russell peters
What was vodka hunting with?
joe rogan
Well, they were doing whatever they could to get by.
They weren't just hunting.
They ate dogs.
They ate deer shit.
They literally ate anything they could find.
They were at the verge of starving to death multiple times, and a lot of them did.
It's a crazy book, man.
It's just crazy to think that...
russell peters
It's all about the weaponry.
The Europeans came with...
I don't know what they came with, but they looked at the native people as savages, but really the natives had their shit together.
joe rogan
Well, they definitely had their shit together in terms of they had...
See, that's one of the things.
I'll give you some spoilers.
When the Spaniards came here, they had horses and rifles, right?
They had muskets and guns.
And when they lost their ships...
And when they got shipwrecked and when they got stuck here, they realized that they were fucked and there was no food.
So they started eating their horses and then they started taking their rifles and melting them down to turn them into axes so that they could cut down trees so they could build rafts so they could get out of there.
They realized they were in this terrible situation and they ate all their horses and then they melted down all their rifles and then they had to deal with angry Natives.
It's crazy.
It's really interesting.
I become just completely engrossed in those kind of stories.
I've read like, now it's probably eight or nine books on Native American life.
russell peters
Because the story's being told properly now.
joe rogan
Yes.
russell peters
It's not being told as these people were savages and we came to tame them.
joe rogan
Right, right.
russell peters
It was more of a, oh, hold on, there's two sides to this story here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I think, yeah, I think they told a convenient story for the longest time.
russell peters
Of course.
That's what we learned growing up.
joe rogan
Yeah, and now they're telling a story that's, like, way deeper and way crazier.
And just, it makes you think how, if you could go back just a few hundred years and see...
russell peters
I'd have been dead.
joe rogan
If you had a fast-forward camera.
russell peters
I'd have fucking died.
joe rogan
But if you had a fast-forward camera and, like, could see, you know, a fast-forward video, like, what it was like to go from nothing where Chicago is to Chicago.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, to...
russell peters
What was that movie with Angelina Jolie?
Wasn't that the one?
Oh, no.
It was Scarlett Johansson where she traveled all the way back in time.
joe rogan
Oh, Lucy?
russell peters
Yeah.
Remember at the end?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That was when she took that crazy drug that turned her into a god.
russell peters
Yes.
joe rogan
It was a good movie.
I liked that movie.
russell peters
But the ending part was pretty wild.
I liked when they did that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that movie was weird.
russell peters
You know what I watch on YouTube a lot is they found all those film footage of people driving like and they colorized some of it, you know, the 1800s and the early 1900s, New York City or whatever.
And you see the horse and carriages in the city.
joe rogan
They colorized it?
russell peters
Yeah, but it's not very well colorized.
Everything ends up being purple.
Everyone's wearing purple for some reason.
joe rogan
Oh really?
russell peters
I guess that's the way the colors showed up.
joe rogan
What did they wear back then?
Were they into purple?
They probably didn't have a lot of dyes back then.
jamie vernon
This is supposed to be the first fight caught on film.
unidentified
They could just be fucking around because no one's reacting to them.
joe rogan
Or maybe people just fought.
russell peters
That guy's throwing sand at him.
joe rogan
Back it up.
Let me see it from the beginning.
Let me see his technique.
russell peters
It's that old school technique.
jamie vernon
It's from 1901. It's 20 seconds of film.
joe rogan
They didn't know shit about leg kicks back then.
russell peters
They're jumping up and down for no reason.
joe rogan
I think they're fighting.
I think they're drunk and they're fighting and they just both suck.
jamie vernon
They're like leaving work or something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, they're fighting, dude.
russell peters
Hey, what's that rumor that you were going to fight?
joe rogan
What is that rumor?
russell peters
Have you not heard that rumor?
joe rogan
What's the rumor?
russell peters
Joe Rogan's going to have an MMA fight.
I swear to God, that rumor's been floating around.
joe rogan
You're on Twitter too long.
russell peters
I see people, hey, did you hear Joe's fighting?
I go, is he really?
I was like, I can't see him doing that.
joe rogan
You don't think I would tell you?
I'm not doing that.
russell peters
Yeah, it had some legs for a minute.
joe rogan
Is this recently?
russell peters
Yeah, in the past month.
joe rogan
Thank God I'm not online.
russell peters
I don't pay attention.
Somebody said, yeah, Joe Rogan's gonna fight.
And I'm like, really?
joe rogan
Incorrect.
Not interested.
No.
Trying to keep what little brain damage I have to a minimum.
russell peters
I mean, it would be pretty.
I'm sure fucking people would pay a fuckload of money to see you fight somebody.
joe rogan
Yeah, see me get my ass kicked.
russell peters
No, I don't think that would...
joe rogan
I'd have to fight someone that people hate.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
I don't see it as a wash.
joe rogan
I'm not interested.
Would you fight somebody?
russell peters
I don't know.
joe rogan
You don't know?
I've been thinking about it.
russell peters
I mean, if the money was right, probably.
joe rogan
Would you?
If somebody came along with a big money fight, like you and Aziz Ansari?
russell peters
Well, give me somebody who would be able to fucking defend themselves.
joe rogan
I want to see a slaughter fest.
All right.
Who do you think you'd match up well with?
russell peters
I don't know.
It would have to be somebody in the same age bracket, I would imagine.
joe rogan
Right, right.
russell peters
Who has some sort of training at some point.
You know, I don't want to be...
But at the same time, I wouldn't want them to be too tough.
I don't know what my intestinal fortitude's like nowadays.
joe rogan
Well, you'd have to train more than once a week, too.
russell peters
Yeah, I'd go into full training camp.
joe rogan
Full training camp?
russell peters
Full training camp.
If I was going to fight somebody, I'd go into a full training camp.
joe rogan
How many months?
russell peters
Three at least.
joe rogan
Three months, that's all you'd need to get ready for a fight?
russell peters
I would say three to five.
joe rogan
What would you like if I gave you an ideal time?
russell peters
Five months.
joe rogan
Five months?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Just get my shit together.
The first month would be getting your mental right.
joe rogan
Getting your mental right.
That's a whole month?
russell peters
At least, yeah.
joe rogan
How do you do that?
russell peters
You've got to break habits.
joe rogan
Break habits.
russell peters
You gotta break bad habits.
You gotta break the sleeping in.
You gotta break...
The booze would be easy to get rid of.
I like it, but it's not like an important thing to me.
Hmm.
You know, I can go without drinking.
That's not a big deal to me.
Cigars.
I do love...
You know what?
It's your fault, by the way, that this Buffalo Trace is now in my life.
joe rogan
It's good stuff.
russell peters
It's fucking fantastic.
joe rogan
Have a little.
There you go.
russell peters
Put it in my little Joe Rogan cup here.
joe rogan
There you go.
russell peters
Good, that's a lot.
joe rogan
Cheers.
russell peters
Cheers, pally.
joe rogan
Cheers, my brother.
Don't go fighting anybody.
russell peters
I'm not fighting anybody.
Are you crazy?
jamie vernon
Chad Johnson's supposed to fight, and I can't find out who he's going to fight.
They've only said who he's not going to fight.
joe rogan
Well, maybe they don't have a fight set for him.
Oh, it's on Triller?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's on the Mayweather-Logan Paul card.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
June 6th.
Really?
russell peters
Now, is Mayweather fighting both of them, or is he just fighting the one?
joe rogan
He's just fighting the one.
He's fighting Logan.
What do you think is going to happen there?
russell peters
I mean, listen.
You can't...
I don't care if you fucking like boxing.
And you look good doing it.
You're not going to beat the fun of the best fighters ever.
It's just not the fucking way the world works.
joe rogan
I know, but isn't it funny that he's like 50 pounds lighter?
russell peters
Yeah, because he doesn't give a shit.
joe rogan
It's kind of funny, though.
russell peters
It's not the first guy 50 pounds heavier than him.
He's lit up.
He's probably lit him up in the gym.
You know, Caleb Plant was the whipping boy in the Mayweather gym before.
joe rogan
Was he?
russell peters
He was the guy that got his ass beat by everybody, and then he became the top guy.
But I always say the more you get your ass whooped and you don't like it, the more you're going to get better at not getting your ass whooped.
joe rogan
You know, I'm not that familiar with Caleb Plant.
I know he's really good, but I don't think I've seen any of his fights.
russell peters
I mean, listen, let's call it what it is.
I mean, Canelo will beat him, but that doesn't mean Caleb's a pushover by any means.
joe rogan
Just pull up some Caleb Plant highlights.
You know who I'm a big fan of?
Teofimo Lopez.
russell peters
Oh, I love that kid.
joe rogan
That motherfucker can crack.
russell peters
Yeah.
And both my kids are half Hondurans, so that's kind of...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
There you go.
russell peters
A little soft spot for me there.
joe rogan
He can crack.
russell peters
He can crack.
I just want him to have a couple more fights before he steps it up.
joe rogan
Steps it up?
russell peters
I mean...
joe rogan
He beat Lomachenko.
russell peters
He did beat Lomachenko, but, I mean, Lomachenko had a year off.
Lomachenko didn't look good.
That's not to negate anything Teofimo did.
Teofimo's the truth, for sure.
joe rogan
Is Caleb Plant undefeated?
russell peters
He may be.
I don't know.
jamie vernon
There was a guy I was watching last week.
unidentified
He had 28 first-run knockouts.
russell peters
You look at the way he comes in now.
I mean, that's because of years of getting into wars in the gym.
joe rogan
So he was a Mayweather guy?
russell peters
He was a Mayweather guy.
He was in the gym.
He was a young kid.
I think a friend of mine who worked for Mayweather reminded me that I saw Caleb in the gym the one time I went to go watch Mayweather train.
And I think he said Caleb must have been 4 or 5 and 0 at that time.
He looks slick.
But he's one of those guys that really fucking puts his nose to the grind and fixes his mistakes as well.
joe rogan
It's kind of one of those things, man, where when you're- That short left hook, you see?
russell peters
That's a Mayweather thing right there.
joe rogan
When you're facing a guy like Canelo Alvarez that's so good right now, it's hard to get to those RPMs without having the kind of fights that Canelo's had.
Without having those two Triple G fights, without having that fight with Mayweather, without having the fight with Danny Jacobs, without having the James Kirkland fight, all those fights where he built up to where he is now, high profile, where Caleb obviously is very skillful.
He hasn't had those high profile big fights.
It's so hard to just step in.
And the pressure attached with it.
Now, watching him starch Billy Joe Saunders like that...
russell peters
And Saunders is a good fighter.
joe rogan
He's a very good fighter.
Tough kid.
Undefeated, super tough, super slick.
russell peters
Yep.
joe rogan
And to see him crack him like that, just the consequences of missing and getting countered by Canelo are so high.
russell peters
Canelo sets traps from the first round.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
russell peters
We did it to Amir Khan.
I was at that fight.
And Amir was looking great, but I was noticing that...
That he kept whacking Amir to the body and he was getting a red spot there.
And eventually, you're going to want to defend that area because it's going to hurt.
And the minute you drop that hand, he set you up.
He set you up from the first round.
joe rogan
He's a monster.
The fact that he knocked out Kovalev.
Like, Jesus Christ.
Kovalev's a light heavyweight.
I know Kovalev had seen better days by the time that fight came around.
But the fact that he stopped him like that and just beat him up.
russell peters
Kovalev was an interesting one because he was very dominant and then all of a sudden just fell apart after Andre Ward.
joe rogan
Booze, buddy.
Booze did him in.
A lot of things did him in, but apparently he likes to drink.
russell peters
Well, he's Russian, you know.
They do like their vodka.
joe rogan
And also, you know, Andre Ward crushed him.
You know, especially the second fight.
In the first fight, arguably, he could have won that fight.
russell peters
You know, it would be nice if Ward came out of retirement to fight Canelo.
joe rogan
Well, they offered it to him after the Kovalev fight, and I admire Andre Ward greatly.
I think he's one of the best examples of what a guy can do if he just decides, I'm done.
He wins an Olympic gold medal, he wins two world titles in two different weight classes, retires undefeated, and did most of it with one arm.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
Did most of it without having a right shoulder.
russell peters
Eventually the bank will catch up with you, the money will get right, and you'll come out.
joe rogan
You think so?
You think he will?
russell peters
There's the talk of Lennox fighting Mike.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Lennox is different than Andre, you know?
russell peters
I mean, Lennox is going to be 55 or 56 years old this year.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lennox is going to do it, apparently.
I talked to him on the phone.
russell peters
He was at my house last week.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
We talked about it, but he said if he does it, he's going to go into a full fucking training camp.
joe rogan
Well, he needs a lot of time because he's not really...
russell peters
Oh, he's been dropping weight.
He's been dropping weight.
He's looking good.
joe rogan
Right, but he hasn't really been working out.
russell peters
No, but Lennox is also a very mentally strong man.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
russell peters
He's got that thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he's fucking Lennox Lewis.
russell peters
It's true, he is.
joe rogan
At the end of the day, if he's alive, he's still Lennox Lewis.
russell peters
He's always throwing punches at me.
joe rogan
Is he?
russell peters
He's always.
joe rogan
There's also, today, there's pharmaceutical interventions.
You know, you can...
russell peters
He's not that guy.
joe rogan
Work around age.
russell peters
Yeah, he looks great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
You know, when he's at the house, people are like, how old are you?
And he tells them his age, and they're like, what?
joe rogan
Black don't crack.
russell peters
Black don't crack.
Brown don't frown.
joe rogan
He also retired with his wits about him, too.
Plays a lot of chess.
russell peters
Always played chess.
And backgammon.
joe rogan
He's good, right?
He's good at chess.
He's ranked.
russell peters
He's very, very good.
And a focus that I'll never have.
joe rogan
For chess?
russell peters
For anything, he does.
He's very competitive in that regard.
joe rogan
Do you have any game that you play?
russell peters
I really wish I did.
joe rogan
Why don't you pick one up?
You play jujitsu.
It's kind of a game.
russell peters
It is.
Jujitsu is a fucking incredible game.
I always tell people it's great for every part of your body.
joe rogan
Do you get into open classes?
russell peters
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
How often do you roll in with strangers?
russell peters
I'll roll with some guys I know first, and then after I warm up, then I'll roll with some strangers.
I'm always a little leery of strangers, because I'm like, I don't want this guy to fucking...
joe rogan
Hey, I fucked up Russell Peters.
russell peters
Yeah, so I start light with people because I'm like, I want to see where you're at.
I want to see what kind of game you want to roll with me.
And then they step, but I put the gas on when I have to put the gas on.
joe rogan
Yeah, some people love to fucking, if they know who you are, they love to attack.
russell peters
Yeah.
But you've got to be prepared for that.
I mean, if you're going to be in there, there's no halfway about it.
joe rogan
Well, that's one good thing about the gis.
You can kind of slow down a lot of shit like that.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like no-gi guys.
It's like holding on to a slippery dolphin.
Like, hey, where are you going?
russell peters
Yeah, the first six minutes you're okay.
And then once you start sweating, it's like trying to juggle a bar of soap.
joe rogan
How much no-gi do you do?
russell peters
Not very much.
joe rogan
That's why you should go to Eddie's.
Go and learn some of that stuff.
It'll apply.
russell peters
John Jack and I will do no-gi every now and then.
On, like, hot days I'll do it, because I'm like, I don't want to wear the fucking gi's too hot.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
So, I go, no problem!
And then he beats my ass with no-gi.
joe rogan
Is his gym open for the general public?
Do you have to wear masks?
What do you have to wear?
russell peters
Oh, yeah, the city's been coming down on him.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
Real, real bad.
But I think, hopefully, once everything opens up...
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe he'll have to just COVID test people.
russell peters
Yeah, he does.
He's doing the mass and COVID and a lot of times it's just a lot of calisthenics and stuff they do in the gym.
joe rogan
If they can drop the price of tests down very low, you could really eliminate a lot of the problems, you know?
russell peters
It's unnecessarily expensive.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
I don't know what the process of developing a rapid antigen test is.
Maybe it's not, but they are kind of expensive.
russell peters
Do you pay the lady that does this one here?
joe rogan
No, she works for free.
What do you think?
russell peters
I mean, I don't know.
A lot of times people will do it just to build a resume.
joe rogan
I've been testing people since April of last year.
When we locked down, we started testing the moment they got tests.
The moment we could get tests.
russell peters
You're always at the forefront of things, though.
joe rogan
Well, I realize that you have a responsibility.
russell peters
You're kind of the benchmark.
joe rogan
You've got a responsibility to do that.
And then I also wanted to figure out what do I have to do to stay healthy.
I don't want to get sick.
And then as time went on, I kind of realized what you have to do in terms of health-wise.
And I go pretty above and beyond in that department.
russell peters
Well, you've got to protect it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
You've got to protect what you've got.
I mean, this is not a...
It's not a mom and pop business you're running here.
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that.
I wanted to keep doing it, man.
I know a lot of people that had real mental health problems because they didn't do shit this year.
My comic friends that don't have podcasts or, you know, there was a lot of people that I talked to like deep into July and August that hadn't seen a single fucking person the entire lockdown.
They had done nothing but go to the grocery store and then go home.
They hadn't done anything.
And mentally, they suffered.
That's a thing, man.
russell peters
Especially comics, we think too much.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's why we do what we do.
russell peters
I think if you're not a thinker, it's probably a lot easier to get through life.
You just kind of go with the flow and accept what people tell you.
joe rogan
I don't even know about that, man.
russell peters
Critical thinkers really suffered last year.
joe rogan
I think so.
But I think everybody suffered.
It's fucking hard for people when the world gets weird.
You get nervous.
You get anxiety.
russell peters
I never really let it weigh my brain down because I had so many other problems going on.
I was like, you know what?
That's the last thing I need to fucking add into this mix.
joe rogan
Well, that's good.
And you kept up with the vitamins and everything.
russell peters
Yeah, the vitamins I've been on for many years now, and I really think that saved my ass a lot.
High doses of vitamin D I was on for years, and I didn't realize the, you know, I didn't know it was going to benefit me in the long run, but I'm glad it did.
joe rogan
Well, it's a big one for brown folks, too, you know?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you're not the darkest skin guy, but if you think about, like, people that are, like, dark black, it's a real issue, man, because it's hard to get that vitamin D just from the sun.
You know, the whole reason why they have that dark pigment is the body is protected from the sun, the sun's rays, but that makes it more difficult to get melanin, whereas a guy like Canelo, which is hilarious that he's Mexican, he's the whitest fucking guy that's ever lived.
russell peters
Oh, he's very Richie Cunningham.
joe rogan
It is hilarious, isn't it?
russell peters
I like that he's learned English, though.
joe rogan
Oh, he's getting better.
Yeah.
russell peters
Did you see the post-fight with Bubu Andrade calling him out?
joe rogan
What is that about?
You never fought anybody when he said you didn't fight anybody?
russell peters
Yeah, well, Canelo said to him he didn't fight anybody.
joe rogan
But he said to Canelo, who the fuck have you fought?
He's like, who have I fought?
russell peters
Yeah.
You fought nobody.
Get out.
Get the fuck out!
joe rogan
I mean, who can he fight, though, to make a name?
Like, everybody wants that big name.
They want to fight Canelo.
But who can Andrade fight to get...
russell peters
Well, everybody wants to get paid now.
It's all about...
Everyone's really driven by the dollar nowadays.
joe rogan
But it's got to be...
It's got to make sense, right?
No one's calling for that fight other than him.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, who are you calling for?
russell peters
I mean, he's the top of the food chain.
That's what you want, right?
joe rogan
You've got Caleb Plant.
You've got Triple G. Those are the only people that anybody's calling for.
russell peters
And then he's going to have to move up if he wants to continue.
joe rogan
Or Andre Ward comes back.
russell peters
That'd be great.
I'd like to see that.
joe rogan
I don't think he's going to...
I love the fact that he said I'm a better servant of boxing if I can serve boxing better as a commentator and just being a representative of the sport.
And also, super articulate, has zero problems with his speech, no sign of brain damage at all, everything's smooth, handsome, in shape, still fit, still works out.
russell peters
He's gained a little though.
I noticed a little chubbiness on it.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
You've seen his Instagram?
russell peters
Not like fucking fat, but I mean like, you know, he's not a walking weight and not a fight weight.
joe rogan
How dare you?
Shut your mouth.
Go to Andre Ward's Instagram and watch.
There's some videos of him shadowboxing.
Dude.
He looks as crisp as ever.
He looks smooth as fuck.
russell peters
Did you hear that Tony is fighting?
unidentified
Watch this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Where are you seeing fat?
You shut your mouth.
You're a dirty, filthy mouth, Russell Peters.
Come on.
How the fuck could you say he looks fat?
russell peters
When is this from?
joe rogan
Yesterday!
russell peters
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Dude, it's from a week a week ago.
I'm not bullshitting.
jamie vernon
I said 10 weeks, but it's not that long.
russell peters
It's a deep fake.
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
That's him.
Looking smooth as fuck.
There's two of these.
russell peters
There's two of these videos.
That doesn't go away.
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
What do you mean, that doesn't go away?
He's thin, Russell.
He looks good.
russell peters
There's another one.
joe rogan
Look at this one.
russell peters
He's not in my shape.
joe rogan
Shut your hole.
Your dirty, stinking hole.
Look at that.
Come on, Russell.
russell peters
He misses it.
Look, you see when a fighter does all that?
He's like, you can tell he misses it.
joe rogan
I'm sure he misses it, but he doesn't miss it to the point where he wants to come back.
He said, them hands still work.
russell peters
Fighters that put videos on like this are trying to bait you and to offer him a lot of money to do something.
joe rogan
Well, that is the most compelling fight for Canelo.
russell peters
It'd be a great fight.
joe rogan
By far.
By far.
russell peters
It would sell a fuckload of money.
joe rogan
But if you were Andre Ward, don't you think it would be wise to not go straight into Canelo Alvarez?
russell peters
Yeah, you'd need one tune-up and he'd be back.
joe rogan
Who do you think he would fight?
russell peters
Maybe Buu Andrade.
That'd be good.
joe rogan
If he lights him up?
russell peters
Yeah.
Lights up a guy who's very active and...
I'm saying it's a lot of interesting things out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not even familiar with that.
russell peters
James Toney's apparently fighting Shannon Briggs.
joe rogan
Is that true though?
russell peters
That's what I heard.
I'm gonna call Shannon after.
joe rogan
This is what I've gotten from Shannon Briggs' Instagram because he's talking shit about James Toney virtually every day.
russell peters
Listen, you know, but that's, again, that's Shannon.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
You know.
joe rogan
He's the best.
russell peters
Shannon's got a good weed company going.
joe rogan
Let's go champ.
Let's go champ.
Have you been on the road at all?
russell peters
I've been on the road a lot.
joe rogan
When did you start?
russell peters
I started taking dates late June last year.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
Yeah, and then, you know, it picked up, then it died down, picked up, died down, according to the waves.
But since January, I've been going pretty good.
joe rogan
Yeah?
russell peters
Yeah, Florida did a lot of Florida work.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Atlanta.
joe rogan
Florida doesn't give a fuck.
russell peters
Florida, it's like they were socially, their social distancing is six inches apart.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't give a fuck.
But here's the thing is, it's not affecting people.
That's what's crazy.
In terms of like the numbers.
It's, you know...
I love it.
I love the idea of giving people the opportunity to do whatever they want to do.
We're not talking about the Black Plague, folks.
Let people do what they want to do.
Florida lets people do what they want to do.
russell peters
Yeah, let you make your own decision, and you can't blame anybody.
The problem is we've taken accountability away from everybody, because everybody has the ability or the right to sue anybody they want.
joe rogan
Well, also, we've given these fucking crazy people this free license to scream at someone to put a mask on.
There's this thing that people do, even when you're outside.
Like, California, they love it.
They love doing that in California.
russell peters
I feel guilty when I'm eating and I have my mask off.
I'm like, I want to hold the food up high so I don't want any altercations.
I don't have to tell you to go fuck yourself, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Is there any place that tells you to put a mask on in between bites of food?
russell peters
I've heard that.
On some flights, I've heard, if you're eating, lower your mask, eat, and I'm like, I'm not going to fucking get crumbs and food all up in my fucking mask.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is about flights, flights are relatively safe, apparently, because they have the HEPA filters.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
The HEPA filters that they have on flights are apparently- And nobody's caught it from a flight.
russell peters
Is that true?
I don't know that to be true.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's true.
russell peters
And if they have, it's, you know.
joe rogan
I think there was a lady that caught it.
She thinks she caught it from a bathroom.
But how the fuck do you know where you caught it from?
Because you don't feel sick for a couple days, and then you're like, oh, the flight.
I went in the bathroom.
That's where I got it.
russell peters
Yeah, I mean, it's based on the information they think they have.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
It's not based on anything.
It's based on, here's what seems like a good answer.
joe rogan
What have the crowds been like on the road?
russell peters
Amazing.
joe rogan
Happy, right?
russell peters
Happy.
They're all happy to be out, you know, and getting good responses in places I've gotten no response before.
joe rogan
Do you think you're getting ready to do a special?
russell peters
No, I will.
I will.
I want to go on tour first and get that act right.
joe rogan
Get juicy.
russell peters
Get nice and juicy, yeah.
Because this next one's going to be my tenth special.
joe rogan
Tenth special.
Goddamn, Russell.
russell peters
Knuckles.
joe rogan
My man.
Out there slinging dick for over a decade.
russell peters
Woo!
joe rogan
That's awesome.
russell peters
But I want to make sure this is a good special, too.
Like, you know, it's got to matter.
You know, I don't want to put the pressure on myself, but at the same time, you know what?
I don't want to give them any fluff.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
Especially post-COVID. And, you know, you've got guys like you and Dave and Donnell and everybody coming out with really solid fucking stuff now.
And it's good for the game because it makes everybody think harder.
joe rogan
Well, there's a high level of comedy out right now, for sure.
And you're seeing it.
I'm really impressed with the local Austin scene.
Really impressed.
I've been seeing a lot of these kids that go up and kill Tony.
russell peters
I didn't realize how big the scene was out here.
joe rogan
It's big.
And it's gotten a lot bigger since we moved here.
And they've opened up quite a few clubs.
There's Creek in the Cave, which I'm there Wednesday and Thursday of this week with Tony and Whitney and Joe List.
russell peters
Is Whitney out here now?
joe rogan
No.
She's thinking about moving out here, but she's just coming out here to visit.
They have Sunset Trip Comedy Club.
They have the Romo Room.
They have Vulcan Gas Company.
And then they're going to open up the new version of Cap City, which is going to be in the domain.
And then I'm going to open up my place.
russell peters
Do you have a name for yours yet?
joe rogan
No, I can't tell you.
I'll tell you off air.
russell peters
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a name.
But I got plans, Russell.
russell peters
I know, I like that.
joe rogan
It's complicated to get these plans off.
It's interesting.
Like, it's a lesson.
You know, I've never done this before, so it's a lesson.
russell peters
Yeah, it's one of those things.
You've worked in the clubs for so long, so you know what's wrong with them and what not to do.
joe rogan
Well, I also know what's right with them by working at the store.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
And I want to emulate that environment, make it as comfortable as possible for the comics.
And that's my main goal.
Make it a fun place where comics can call home.
So you've got a home base.
You've got a place where you can go.
You know you're going to be safe.
You can go fuck around.
russell peters
Yep.
joe rogan
We're going to use those bags for sure.
And we're going to have good food, nice staff.
I want everybody to be treated well and paid well.
I want everybody to feel good about working there.
My goal is not to make any money.
My goal is just to not lose any money.
That's my goal.
russell peters
That's a good goal.
joe rogan
That's all I want to do.
I just want to make it nice.
russell peters
Well, it's different when you come from this side of it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
You know, you're not coming into it as a businessman.
You're coming into it as a guy who cares about the art.
joe rogan
And a guy who's in a position where I can do something fun.
I can actually make something happen.
I really can do it, you know?
So I feel like I have to.
I feel like I'm supposed to.
It's like, you know, I could just think about myself, but I really feel like I can do a service for the comedy community and help.
I really do.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's what I want to do.
russell peters
You're, what, 33 years in the game, too, as well?
joe rogan
Yep.
russell peters
Yep.
So you've got a year on me.
unidentified
Woo!
russell peters
Crazy times?
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll be 33 years in August.
russell peters
Yeah, I'm 32 in November.
joe rogan
Isn't that nuts?
russell peters
It is wild.
joe rogan
Imagine when you started out thinking that you'd be doing it 32 years later.
russell peters
I always thought I would.
I just didn't know where I would be.
I just figured I would be a road comic.
joe rogan
I felt like I would be a physical wreck 30 years later.
I'd be like, oh my god, what is it like to be a 53-year-old just broken?
russell peters
I mean, I go back home.
I go back to Canada and I'm like, wow.
I see the guys that I came up with and they're still doing the same fucking act.
And I'm like...
joe rogan
That's the problem with getting stuck in an island, you know?
You get stuck in a little comedy island.
russell peters
And it's not like their act is bad.
It's a fantastic act and it's fully polished, but you gotta reach a little, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
You gotta get out there.
russell peters
The game changed.
It's not like you come up with your one act like it was in the 70s and 80s and then that's what you're known for.
You gotta continuously reinvent yourself.
joe rogan
I've seen guys from the 80s that are still doing the same act.
russell peters
I know, it's wild.
joe rogan
Boston guys?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've seen guys and I'm like, oh my god, this is insanity.
russell peters
It's still funny, but, you know, it's like...
joe rogan
It's stale to them, though.
Once it's stale to them, it's stale to everybody else, too.
It's got to be fresh to you.
It's one of the best things about new materials, that it's fresh to you.
russell peters
Well, I think that determines who you are as a comic, if you're that...
If you're the comic that cares about this a lot, you're going to continuously grow.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I think that applies to almost everything you're trying to do in life.
You want to be challenged.
You want things to be exciting.
You want things that are like you have to really think and work hard at it.
That way when it comes out and it's done, you feel good.
russell peters
Well, that separates career from job.
joe rogan
And passion from occupation.
russell peters
Because I think the guys that I saw growing up that are still doing the same act, look at it as a job.
This is the only way I'm going to make money.
joe rogan
There's guys like that that are like tradesmen.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, they could have been a plumber, but instead they became a comic.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
They just, you know, they figured out this, and then they're like, ah, fuck, that's fine.
unidentified
Price check, tampons, aisle two price check.
russell peters
That's the worst when you hear about guys that you knew that had a lot of talent, and they're like, what are you doing now?
I'm like, I'm driving fucking Uber.
And you're like, oh, boy.
joe rogan
Mmm.
Yeah.
It's hard out there, bro.
It's hard, but...
russell peters
We're the lucky ones, you know?
We're the lucky ones.
joe rogan
Better than being Cabeza de Vaca eating dogs.
russell peters
Well, you know...
joe rogan
And deer shit making your way across the country on foot.
russell peters
The old deer shit omelet.
joe rogan
Imagine if you would.
russell peters
How'd they get chickens?
joe rogan
How did they get chickens?
russell peters
Where did these chickens come from?
joe rogan
Domestic chickens?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
They probably came over on boats, right?
Okay, let's ask this question.
Where did domestic chickens come from?
russell peters
Their origin.
joe rogan
Right?
Because I've seen wild chickens in Mexico.
Ever seen those?
russell peters
For the cockfights?
joe rogan
No, just like wild chickens.
It's like a type of chicken.
If you go to Puerto Vallarta, I was staying at a resort and these birds are running around.
I'm like, what is that?
It's a type of wild chicken.
I was like, what?
russell peters
Are they edible?
joe rogan
I forget what they call it.
russell peters
I mean, obviously they're edible.
joe rogan
Most birds are edible.
Most animals are edible.
That's the thing.
Most plants are not edible.
Chickens were likely first domesticated about 5,400 years ago in Southeast Asia, although archaeological evidence of wild chickens goes back even further to a 12,000-year-old site in northern China.
Once domesticated, though, chickens were brought westward to Europe and east-southeast into Oceana.
What's Oceana?
russell peters
Oceana.
That probably goes back to Pangea, maybe?
I don't know.
joe rogan
I was reading about my people.
Which ones?
Neanderthals.
They found evidence that a bunch of Neanderthals had been killed by hyenas in a cave in Italy.
russell peters
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, for sure.
That's where my DNA comes from.
russell peters
You're a hyena caveman.
joe rogan
Well, eaten by hyenas, man.
That's a rough way to go, man.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hyenas would eat you in a horrible way.
russell peters
They're not the most friendly animals.
joe rogan
Yeah, they'd probably break your ankle so you can't run.
russell peters
They're from the dog family, wouldn't they be?
Are they canines?
joe rogan
I can imagine.
By eating them, hyenas gathered nine Neanderthal skeletons in one cave.
The Neanderthals appear to have met a very bad end.
So they just dragged them into the cave.
Ugh.
Archaeologists in Italy recently unearthed the remains of at least nine Neanderthals in Guattari Cave near the...
How do you say that?
russell peters
Terranian?
joe rogan
Terranian Sea.
Terranian Sea.
About 100 kilograms southeast of Rome.
While excavating a previously unexplored section of the cave, archaeologists from the Archaeological Superintendency of Latina and the University of Tor Vergata recently unearthed broken skulls, jawbones, teeth, and pieces of several other bones, which they say represent at least nine Neanderthals.
That brings the cave's total to at least 18. Oh, 10. Anthropologist Alberto Carlo Blanc found a Neanderthal skull in another chamber in 1939. Oh, wow.
So they've been finding them there forever.
Italy was a very different place 60,000 years ago.
Hyenas, along with other Pleistocene carnivores, stalked rhinoceroses, wild horses, and extinct wild bovine called...
russell peters
Aurochs.
joe rogan
And people.
And people.
What?
russell peters
What?
Hyenas were eating people.
joe rogan
Those fucks.
Wow.
Neanderthals were prey to these animals.
Hyenas hunted them, especially the most vulnerable, like sick or elderly individuals.
Wow.
That's rough.
russell peters
Hyenas are like the diesel coyotes.
joe rogan
They're just fucking nasty animals, man.
They're just nasty.
They're evil.
russell peters
And they're very mean looking.
joe rogan
But just the yelling and the laughing.
Like, where'd that come from?
Can you imagine that's the shit you hear when you have a broken ankle?
You're like, fuck.
You know, you're trying to get away.
unidentified
And you're...
joe rogan
And they're all circling you.
russell peters
They get excited.
joe rogan
Snapping at you.
russell peters
That's their happy noise, you know?
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
It's funny how animals that are creepy look creepy.
Like vultures.
Vultures are creepy.
russell peters
They got bad posture.
joe rogan
They look like they are.
Like dead animal eating cunts.
Fucking red disgusting necks.
russell peters
Don't like the bottom feeders.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen a Tibetan sky funeral?
You ever seen that?
russell peters
What's that?
joe rogan
Bro, it's rough.
It's a ritual that they do in Tibet where they feed their dead to vultures.
And the idea is that there's no reason to waste someone's body by putting it in the ground.
You're better serving earth and nature and life by feeding it to the vultures.
So they would take these people's bodies and And they cut them open and even break open the bones and slice all the meat and then leave them out there for the vultures.
There's really graphic images of these Tibetan sky funerals.
Yeah, they're recent photographs.
russell peters
That's not the way I want to go.
joe rogan
Not the way you want to go or not what you want them to do with your body.
russell peters
Yeah, I don't know if I want that done to me after I'm dead.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I mean, like, what's the point of rotting and being eaten by bacteria?
But here's why we're assholes.
We don't even let bacteria eat people.
We fucking embalm them with this disgusting...
Toxic shit.
So here it is.
Sky burial.
Tradition becomes controversial.
Tourist attraction.
So people are filming it, which is very odd.
It was the monk of the car that we saw.
So these people are just sitting around.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Do they have any actual photographs?
Not really.
jamie vernon
You can't really tell what they're eating.
joe rogan
So he's flying.
Yeah.
russell peters
I mean, at least you're getting swarmed and not picked that by one.
You know what I mean?
It's...
joe rogan
Well, they're accustomed to it.
That's what's going on.
It's like these birds have kind of been trained to do it.
This is just a video.
They're probably not going to show you too much in this video, but there's plenty of photographs where you can watch all of it and watch how they do it.
I don't think they'd allow you to show it on YouTube.
unidentified
YouTube would want you to be vague about it.
They're bringing back Faces of Death.
russell peters
Really?
unidentified
Which I thought was real.
joe rogan
That's a regular internet.
unidentified
Turns out it was not real, though.
jamie vernon
The original Faces of Death was all fake.
russell peters
All of it?
unidentified
Some of it was real.
russell peters
Some of it was very disturbing.
jamie vernon
I think there's another thing called Traces of Death that kind of got mixed in.
I was sort of looking into this because I thought I'd seen real Faces of Death in my past.
russell peters
I had the VHS's of it back in the day.
joe rogan
Some of it, I think, for sure was fake, but there was a video that I saw where they tied this guy's legs to one bumper, and they tied his arms to another bumper, and that one was real as fuck.
Because that guy was screaming, and they pulled him apart.
jamie vernon
But yeah, they're rebooting it for today, for some reason.
joe rogan
I don't know.
They're going to make...
unidentified
I don't know.
russell peters
The remake?
joe rogan
More fake footage, or if they're going to...
unidentified
Hollywood's doing it.
jamie vernon
So it was created in Variety.com, said reboot of Face of the Dead for 2022. Hollywood's doing it.
russell peters
Good old Hollywood.
They love a good reboot.
joe rogan
What does that mean, though, when they say, like, Hollywood's doing it?
jamie vernon
Well, like an official studio.
joe rogan
Why would they do that?
I guess maybe they realize civilization has crashed so hard.
Fuck it.
Let's just go all out.
russell peters
They figure we're numb.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Then we're numb to it already.
joe rogan
When I was joking around about Fear Factor back in the day, I used to say that we're like three seasons away from The Running Man.
And we kind of are, right?
Faces of Death rebooting the world.
russell peters
Didn't they bring back Fear Factor for a minute?
joe rogan
Ludacris.
russell peters
That's right.
joe rogan
Ludacris hosted it.
Yeah.
It's, you know, it wasn't real Fear Factor, though.
They kind of like, you know, like, you're gonna lose your cell phone.
Oh, my God.
You know what I mean?
Like, what's the fear?
It was low budget.
Like, to do Fear Factor correctly, you gotta...
The reality is, like, the last season, they went way too far.
They risked people's lives, I think.
russell peters
The season you were on.
joe rogan
Yeah, they got lucky.
I really believe that.
I mean, not the season, but the very last season when we came back for one short amount of episodes.
We did like six episodes.
That one was risky.
Like, they were doing some wild shit.
russell peters
Were you into that?
joe rogan
No, I didn't enjoy it.
The last season, I was like, we're going so far with these.
I was nervous that someone was going to get legitimately hurt.
russell peters
Who's coming up with the ideas?
joe rogan
Producers.
russell peters
Not writers?
Not...
joe rogan
Well, I mean, you know, creative folks.
russell peters
Yeah.
But what kind of warped creative folk do you have to be?
joe rogan
Heavily warped.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, a lot of stunt guys.
And stunt guys are, you know, they're some risk-taking motherfuckers.
russell peters
They're nutty.
joe rogan
They have a different perception of, like, risk and reward.
russell peters
A lot of stunt guys in jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
russell peters
A fuckload of them.
Those are the guys I don't like rolling with, because I'm like, they know things we don't know.
joe rogan
Well, they're also accustomed to getting injured.
They have a very high tolerance for pain.
My friend Tate did a lot of stunt.
You remember Tate Fletcher?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
He did a lot of stunt work, and he's done a lot of acting, too.
I watch John Wick a lot.
That's one of the things I like to watch when I work out.
russell peters
Which one?
joe rogan
One, number one.
russell peters
Yeah, one's the good one.
joe rogan
The original one.
Two's pretty good.
russell peters
Three put me to sleep.
joe rogan
Three was not as good as two or one, but it's still good.
I still enjoyed it.
I like Halle Berry, so I was a fan.
russell peters
Yeah, I watched three in a movie theater in South Africa when I was on tour.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
russell peters
And I fell asleep to the sound of the guns.
joe rogan
Maybe you're just really tired.
russell peters
I may have been, but I woke up when the guns stopped for a second.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
And then I was like, oh, and then pop, pop, pop, and I went right back to sleep.
joe rogan
Three didn't have any muscle cars either.
That was disappointing.
But Tate gets shot.
In John Wick, in the scene when they went to the Red Circle bar.
russell peters
Yeah, I remember seeing him in it.
Wasn't he an MMA fighter at one point?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, yeah.
Fought in the Ultimate Fighter.
That's right.
unidentified
Season...
joe rogan
I don't remember what season.
Season in Michael Bisping one.
russell peters
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
But he was doing some stunt work and he suffered a really bad head injury.
russell peters
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, really bad.
And it fucked him up for over a year.
How did he get up?
I Do Not Know is a stunt.
And during the stunt, he hit his head really badly.
russell peters
Oh, I think I heard the story.
I think it was they had already done it once.
And he kind of got away with it.
And they were like, we want to do another one.
And even he was like, I don't really want to do another one.
And I think they made him do a second take.
And that's how he hurt himself.
If I am quoting this correctly.
joe rogan
I do not know.
But I know, you know, people fucking die doing movies, man.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it happens.
russell peters
Remember when they did the...
The Twilight Zone movie, remember the helicopter accident?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that was horrific.
russell peters
That was really bad.
joe rogan
That was horrific.
Yeah, that video was horrific.
russell peters
Yeah, and then Bruce Lee's son?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
russell peters
How the fuck did that happen?
joe rogan
Well, they had a blank, and the blank had some sort of particle that was in the cartridge.
So even though it was blank, there was a piece of something that shot out of the gun and hit him.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, so I think they changed where you're allowed to shoot somebody in movies with blanks.
Now, when you aim at someone with a blank, you have to aim slightly off to the side.
You don't actually aim at them anymore.
russell peters
Right.
Yeah, especially with point-of-view shots.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just a blank alone can kill you.
There was a guy that I was friends with back in the day.
He was an actor, and one of his buddies was on the set, and he had a blank gun, and he thought it'd be fun to take the gun and put it to his head and pull the trigger, and it killed him.
Just the force of air coming out of the gun killed him.
russell peters
Yeah, that'll do it to you.
There's a lot of pressure coming at you.
Airbags will kill you.
joe rogan
Do they?
russell peters
Yeah.
I remember getting in a car accident once, and the airbag deployed on the steering wheel.
And I don't know how I avoided getting hurt, but it hit my finger, and my finger went black.
It was like, it fucking hit hard.
It was numb.
joe rogan
That's why they say little kids shouldn't sit up front.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you get walloped by that fucking airbag.
russell peters
Yeah.
I do think if you face the kid backwards in the front seat, it would probably be good too, you know?
Push the front seat back, put the car seat in backwards.
They should be okay.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't think you're even supposed to do that.
russell peters
No, you're not allowed to.
I mean, you know, we grew up in the...
joe rogan
No seatbelt era.
russell peters
No seatbelt era.
joe rogan
Drum brakes.
russell peters
Oh, yeah, yeah.
My dad had a 77 Hornet, AMC Hornet, orange one.
And driving home from my aunt's house, I'd be, like, tired.
And I'd be like, Dad, can I sit in the...
Because of the station wagon.
I'm going to lay down in the backpack, we used to call it the backpack.
There was the back, and then there was the backpack.
And he didn't give a fuck if you're taking turns.
You're rolling around.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could just do things with kids back then.
You could tie them to the roof.
russell peters
Yeah, if you wanted to.
joe rogan
Yeah, nobody gave a shit.
russell peters
Sitting in the back of a pickup truck was no big deal.
joe rogan
There was no rules.
russell peters
There was no rules.
joe rogan
Yeah, you didn't even have to have a seatbelt on back then.
And then they eventually came up with baby seats.
What did they do before?
They probably put a stroller, just shoved that stroller in the backseat.
The kid just was stuck in there.
russell peters
No, you would sit on your mom's lap and she would hold you.
I remember sitting on my mom's lap, driving.
joe rogan
But the people that made it through those eras, they were hardier folk.
russell peters
We apparently were a hardy bunch, us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And the vaccinations left scars.
Remember you get that polio vaccine?
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
And then there was the immigrant scar, too.
That's how people knew they were immigrant.
They go, yeah, I got my scar.
joe rogan
What was that from?
russell peters
From whatever vaccination they got when they came to the new land.
joe rogan
Was it polio?
Wasn't it polio?
russell peters
It may have been a polio shot.
Whatever it was, you would see people our age that would have this little circle that looked like a burn mark almost on their arm.
joe rogan
Remember how, not that we remember, but it was so easy when my grandparents came over here.
russell peters
Where did your grandparents come from?
joe rogan
Italy.
Most of them from Italy and my grandfather on my father's side from Ireland.
But they just had to get over here.
russell peters
Yeah.
That was it.
That was the trick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get over here and you're in.
russell peters
Yeah.
I was watching that documentary on one of my flights recently about the Chinese Exclusion Act.
Have you seen that documentary?
joe rogan
What's that?
russell peters
There was this whole act in the...
They were showing about the first Chinese guy that came to America.
And I think it was in the 1700s he came over.
And then he proved to be a good worker.
And eventually, by the 1800s, there was like 60,000 Chinese people.
And then...
For some reason, America had a problem with them, and they had this Exclusion Act, too.
They'd even allowed black people to be free and black people to vote, but the Chinese were considered less than human.
joe rogan
What?
What year was it?
russell peters
This was in the 1800s.
1882, yeah.
joe rogan
Is this when they were working on the railroads a lot?
russell peters
Yeah, then they let them come in and work on the railroad, but they wouldn't allow them to become citizens.
joe rogan
Bro, you ever see photos of Chinese people working on the railroads?
They're some of the bleakest photos.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
And they all had their hair back, like their foreheads were huge for some of the way they would pull their hair back.
joe rogan
They probably didn't want their hair to get stuck on the fucking tracks.
russell peters
That sounds about right, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, imagine, train comes by and catches you by the hair.
russell peters
Oh yeah, they used them pretty badly.
joe rogan
It's a horrific story.
But the photos.
I was watching that Hulu docuseries, Sasquatch, and it was talking a lot about the people that they used to make the railroads and to mine and the people that used to cut down the trees up in the Pacific Northwest and up in Northern California.
And there's these photos that they showed of these Chinese folks that were working on those railroads, and it's so depressing, man.
russell peters
Yeah, they were treated like shit.
joe rogan
And there's just no hope.
You're not getting out of that.
There's no upward mobility.
There's no future.
russell peters
No promise.
And then they weren't allowing them to become U.S. citizens, even if they were born here.
joe rogan
You know what's crazy?
Even today, like in Harvard, it's more difficult for Asian people to get in than anybody else.
russell peters
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lawsuit about it right now.
Yeah.
Apparently, they have so many Asian folks that were getting into Harvard that they decided to specifically tailor their tests to make it more difficult, or their requirements, or what they're...
See, I don't want to fuck this up because Andrew Yang's people were the ones who were talking to me about it.
One of the guys who came last time when Andrew Yang was here.
russell peters
Nice guy, that Andrew Yang.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
russell peters
I hope he runs again.
joe rogan
Well, he's going to run for mayor of New York City.
He's running right now.
And Tim and this other gentleman who was...
I forget what he did, but this other guy carries a fucking gun.
And he's talking about ramping up police presence.
And he's a black guy.
And a lot of people are behind him.
And they think, like, this is what we need to turn the city around.
Like, they need to respect law and order.
And they need to do something about the fucking crime.
There's a shooting spree in Times Square the other day where a four-year-old got shot.
russell peters
A woman and her daughter.
joe rogan
It's crazy, man.
So here it is.
Peel's court rules Harvard doesn't discriminate against Asian American applicants.
Oh, okay.
So this is federal appeals court in Boston has ruled Harvard doesn't intentionally discriminate against Asian American applicants.
So what is the argument?
Because there was a lot of Asian people that were insisting that that was the case.
Said the statistical evidence did not show that Harvard intentionally discriminated against Asian Americans.
Students for fair admissions and advocacy group We first filed its lawsuit in 2014 saying that Harvard's race-based considerations for applicants discriminated against Asian American students in process.
Today's decision, once again, finds that Harvard's admission policies were consistent with Supreme Court precedent and lawfully and appropriately pursue Harvard's efforts to create a diverse campus.
That promotes learning and encourages mutual respect and understanding in our community.
It's like, what is the argument, though?
Proponents for ending race-based considerations at US universities were unfazed by Thursday's decision to plan to bring the case to the Supreme Court.
So what does it say?
What is the question?
Okay, the question of how much race should be a factor in college applications is a hotly contested one.
President Trump's administration has challenged college on using race in admission policies, claiming such practices violate federal law.
Last month, the Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against Yale University, saying its policies violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Yale has said the lawsuit is baseless.
What is school's admissions rules though?
That's what I'm confused with.
russell peters
Well, so does that mean external Chinese people or Chinese Americans?
joe rogan
I just think it's just Asian, period.
Well, when they do race, they don't say, we only want African Americans.
russell peters
I mean, I'm Asian.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So, I mean, it's vague.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
But, I mean, I can understand- But you're Canadian.
joe rogan
It cancels everything out.
russell peters
It's true.
It's true.
joe rogan
What is the race-based admission policy, though, that makes them say that they discriminated?
Does it say?
See if you can find what the argument is that Harvard does discriminate against Asians.
But these guys that were with Andrew Yang, they believed pretty strongly that that's what Harvard was doing.
russell peters
I mean, you know, there's a lot of those admissions tests that are racially biased according to how you grew up and what you know.
So I think what they tried to do is make it the person who wrote the test or whatever wrote it from their perspective.
joe rogan
We need to fix society so that you never have to think about that shit at all, you know?
Oh, here it goes.
In the lawsuit, plaintiffs claim that Harvard imposes a soft racial quota which keeps the number of Asian Americans artificially low.
The low percentage of Asians admitted to Harvard plaintiffs maintain was suspiciously similar year after year despite dramatic increases in the number of Asian American applicants and the size of the Asian American population.
During the lawsuit, the plaintiffs gained access to Harvard's individualized admission files from 2014 to 2019. Wow.
What the fuck?
Just think about what that says.
They rate you on positive personality, likeability, courage, kindness and being widely respected.
Those are so vague.
russell peters
Well, I mean, you know, different nationalities have different personalities.
You know, different races have different ways of dealing with things.
And what may be considered offensive to one is not to the other, you know?
Or likable to me is not likable to you.
joe rogan
For sure.
But look what it says here.
Asian Americans scored higher than applicants of any other racial or ethnic group on other admissions measures like test scores, grades, and extracurricular activities.
But the student's personal rating significantly dragged down their admissions chances.
Wow, that's weird, man.
I mean, I guess you'd have to talk to someone from Harvard and get them drunk and say, what's really going on?
Why do you have this likability, courage, kindness, and being wildly respective?
And what is a positive personality?
You have to be positive.
What if you're like, goddammit, I suck, but you work really hard.
Like, that's a negative personality, but...
Maybe you have a negative opinion of yourself, but you work really hard.
russell peters
Maybe that's why you work hard, because you don't think of yourself very...
joe rogan
It's weird, man.
Harvard's admissions staff testified they did not believe that different racial groups have better personal qualities than others, but nevertheless, Asian applicants as a racial group receive consistently weaker personal scores over the period surveyed and Harvard admissions officers rated Asian Americans with the worst personal qualities of any racial group.
russell peters
Wow.
joe rogan
African Americans, on the other hand, consistently scored the lowest on academic rating, but the highest on the personal rating.
You know what?
Personal rating, that makes me think about that whole Chinese social score system.
russell peters
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know about that.
joe rogan
I don't like that.
russell peters
That's a very weird thing.
joe rogan
Because, remember what we were talking about earlier about being woke, right?
russell peters
Right, right.
joe rogan
Now, things that you and I think are completely acceptable, like you seeing a black lady with a Chinese guy in the audience and immediately going, wow, look at you breaking boundaries.
Like, that's the kind of shit that you would do.
That's not racist.
It's racial.
You're making humor that brings everybody together and gets everybody to laugh at the differences that we have.
But if someone didn't know you, they would look at you and say, oh, he's racist, and what he's doing is racist comedy.
And this is what people like to do today.
russell peters
They don't know the difference between racial and racist anymore.
joe rogan
They don't know what the difference is.
They don't know what talking shit is, which is why Shane Gillis got kicked off Saturday Night Live.
He's not a racist.
He's talking shit.
When you talk shit, especially when comics get together and talk shit, we say silly things.
We don't mean it.
We say silly things about ourselves, about our moms, about our family, about everything.
It doesn't mean we're racists.
This is why it's so confusing.
People are looking to quote mine, especially with someone like me who's done a podcast for thousands and thousands and thousands of hours.
You can find some dumb shit in there.
If you want to pretend that that's me, well, that's on you because you're playing a little game there.
russell peters
Well, it says more about them than it says about you.
joe rogan
But it's also an effective game if people aren't paying attention because a lot of people don't want to listen.
They don't have the time.
So if they look at a short snippet or they take things out of context, they can just decide, oh, Russell Peters is a piece of shit.
Instead of how I know you, you're a lovely guy.
You're fun.
You're a great guy to hang out with.
russell peters
You know, fuck, I lost my words.
Carry on.
joe rogan
I was just saying, this social score thing that they're doing in China is dangerous because what it does is it makes you follow this trend.
It makes you keep along with whatever is acceptable currently.
And you lose your ability to think outside the lines or express yourself in any controversial way because you'll lose social score.
russell peters
The problem is that people have forgotten how to react naturally anymore.
So they wait to be told how to frame things.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
So your immediate reaction to certain things may be your genuine being and then somebody will go, oh no, that's not right because blah, blah, blah.
And then you go, oh yeah, you're right.
I'm wrong.
joe rogan
Exactly.
russell peters
And you're like, no, you're not wrong.
You are behaving like a human being that you are.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
And you processed it the way you were supposed to process it, but because it doesn't fit to this person's You've lost your free will.
joe rogan
They're scared to be ostracized.
That's a big thing today.
You're scared to be on the out-group.
Sometimes it makes people say completely irrational things and they hope that by saying these irrational things they're going to be accepted.
It's fucking weird, man.
It's weird.
It's a weird time.
It's like one of the weirdest times we've ever had in terms of communication because it takes real courage to actually speak your mind, especially if you're on social media because you will get attacked.
russell peters
You'll get attacked regardless.
joe rogan
Regardless.
Whether you're right or wrong.
russell peters
Say the most positive thing and you get attacked.
joe rogan
Someone will find a reason why you're a piece of shit.
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
But that's because that's just how they viewed you to begin with.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
russell peters
What about doing a show?
I was thinking about this.
This has completely nothing to do with anything.
But where everybody did mushrooms before the show and the audience is all on mushrooms...
joe rogan
It's a good idea.
But you have to regulate the dose.
russell peters
Well, no, no.
joe rogan
You have to get a psychological examination of the people that are involved.
Because if someone has borderline schizophrenia, and then you trip them over the deep end.
russell peters
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Because we know people that have gone, right?
You and I both know people that have taken pot edibles.
And maybe Joey Diaz has done that to a few people in their day.
And they break.
Or mushrooms can do the same thing.
Some people are psychologically fragile.
russell peters
True.
Some.
We're living in a world of it.
joe rogan
And maybe some of them through no fault of their own.
They have a weird chemical composition and their brain doesn't work that good.
russell peters
I think like a dosage amount that you give them and then you put on like the newer comics at the beginning while the trip's setting in.
unidentified
Right.
russell peters
And then you get to your headliners and by the time they get like you and Dave or something get on and the audience is right at the right place for everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the thing is, everybody's right place is a different thing.
It's like some people are dealing with demons, and then that mushroom hits them, and the mushroom is like, you're an asshole to your mother.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
You know?
Some people are dealing with demons.
Some people are like, you bullied your brother when you were growing up.
unidentified
I did!
joe rogan
I did!
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
How can I fix it?
russell peters
It's whatever was subconsciously repressing, I guess.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
I do think that there's some real benefit in psychedelics for people.
And I've harped on that so many times that I avoid saying it.
Because I've said it too much.
russell peters
You've said it a lot.
You've got me involved in that world now.
unidentified
Look at this shirt.
russell peters
I know.
joe rogan
Tell me about your shirt.
russell peters
That's Red Light Holland.
That's the company I'm working with.
joe rogan
You're working with the mushroom company?
russell peters
I'm working with the mushroom company.
Or the truffle company.
joe rogan
So, how illegal is that stuff on a 1 to 10?
russell peters
Well, here's the problem.
So, we're illegal in Holland, and the problem is I haven't been able to get out to Holland to try the product, and I can't try it in North America because it's illegal here.
joe rogan
But it's not illegal in Portland.
Portland has legalized basically everything, including Antifa.
russell peters
Yeah, they're queuing on everything.
Give it to them.
They want it all.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can threaten the mayor.
You can burn the fucking courthouse.
They're wild up there.
russell peters
I brought it up to the whole team.
I was like, why aren't we in Portland?
And they're like, well, we got to get – it's more than just getting approved in Portland.
You got to get the whole FDA involved and everything is – This is the biggest door opening.
joe rogan
The biggest change in our society will be when they legalize psychedelics.
Because it will dissolve so many of our preconceived notions about what government is, what life is, what civilization is, what community is, what love is, what insecurity is.
There's so much of what we see every day when you're dealing with people that is based on insecurity and fear.
And one of the best methods for alleviating insecurity and fear are psychedelics.
russell peters
And it could definitely help.
We have a huge mental illness problem in this country that I really feel that this stuff could really help.
joe rogan
I think microdosing is the way for a lot of folks.
russell peters
That's what it's for, yeah.
This is a microdosing company.
I mean, I think it would be great for all the vets and all the people.
I mean, not saying we should pump it to the homeless people, but a lot of the homeless people have...
Their own issues that they're dealing with.
And it might straighten them out.
It may not.
We don't know.
joe rogan
Well, you know that MAPS is doing some work with psychedelics and veterans with PTSD, using MDMA, using ecstasy, essentially, pure.
And they've got really some really promising results.
And they continue to work on that.
And I think that's amazing that they're doing that and that, you know, they've gotten these studies funded and they've gone through and they hold real promise.
And so I will hope that eventually we come to our senses and we recognize that there's a lot of things out there that can help people.
The thing is that these are human issues.
It's not that clear.
It's like they don't work on everybody, because everybody's different.
And it's not going to be perfect with everybody.
So everybody's different.
So if we do have things that are beneficial to a certain percentage of the population, they're not going to be beneficial to everybody.
And some people are going to have real problems with them.
And we have to accept that that is a part of being a person.
And it's the same thing with alcohol.
I think alcohol should be legal.
But some people are alcoholics.
Some people can't drink at all.
You and I just had a drink, and we're fine.
russell peters
We're fine.
joe rogan
But some people cannot do that and they go off the deep end.
russell peters
Yeah, some friends like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
russell peters
We both do, you know?
joe rogan
We both do.
russell peters
And I can't comprehend it because I don't have an addictive nature, so.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
For me, it's like, well, why can't you just have the one or just not have any then?
And they're like, you don't understand.
It calls me.
And I'm like, I don't understand.
joe rogan
Man, it's genes.
You know, that's a lot of it.
There's a lot of it is genes.
You know, I have friends that are alcoholics and their whole family is alcoholics.
And I don't think that's a coincidence.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't get it because I can have a drink and not drink for like I've done.
I do sober October every year.
I don't drink for a whole month.
russell peters
And it's not going to get in on it this year.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
Yeah, let's do it, Russell.
It's only a few months away.
russell peters
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Five months away.
What are we at?
We're in May, June, July, August, September, October.
Yeah.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not that hard.
It's fun.
And the good thing is you do other things.
Like, usually we have some sort of a challenge that we do or, you know, you'll work out every day or something like that.
Like, that's what I did last time I worked out every day.
It's nice.
russell peters
I mean, look at Tom.
Tom and Bert.
I mean, Tom's in great shape now.
You seen him lately?
joe rogan
Well, once he broke his arm and he fucking blew his knee out.
His whole fucking body.
He moved here today.
russell peters
Did he come here today?
joe rogan
Today.
Today's moving day.
russell peters
Oh, wow.
He sent me a text message today.
I'm supposed to do his podcast soon.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
They have a studio out here now, son.
russell peters
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Woo!
russell peters
I told you.
Joe the Pied Piper Rogan.
When are you moving here?
For me, I got bigger problems.
I got two kids, two baby mamas.
If I ever want to see my kids again, I can't leave.
joe rogan
I get it.
You got to talk to those bitches in the movie here.
russell peters
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
No disrespect with the word bitches.
russell peters
No, no.
You were right.
You're not wrong, Joe.
joe rogan
You want another scar?
Is that why you grab that?
russell peters
I do, but a short story because I got to catch a flight soon.
Nah, I hate wasting cigars.
Drives me nuts.
joe rogan
Bring it with you.
russell peters
What's that short story?
Take a short story from there.
unidentified
Oh.
russell peters
The middle ones.
This is a nice long smoke.
unidentified
Yeah, there you go.
russell peters
It's actually really good smoke, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're great.
russell peters
Thank you.
joe rogan
Shout out to Foundation Cigar Company.
russell peters
I'm thinking about doing a cigar collaboration.
joe rogan
Look at you.
You're a fucking businessman now.
russell peters
I gotta do stuff, dude.
joe rogan
You're selling mushrooms.
russell peters
I'm selling mushrooms.
joe rogan
What else are you going to sell?
Guns?
You got alcohol, tobacco, and firearms?
russell peters
I got no guns yet, no.
I'm not a gun guy.
I know that's your world.
It freaks me out.
Guns freak me out.
joe rogan
Guns freak you out?
russell peters
Yeah, guns freak you out.
joe rogan
What freaks you out about them?
The bang-bang part?
russell peters
No, I just don't like having that much power in my hands.
joe rogan
So how do you feel when you hold your dick?
russell peters
That's the kind of power I can control.
I feel like He-Man.
joe rogan
You feel dangerous, though?
russell peters
I feel dangerous.
unidentified
Dangerous.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
russell peters
But I also understand my triggers as far as temper goes, and I don't think I'm the guy to have a gun.
joe rogan
You got a bad temper?
I've never seen you lose your temper once.
I've known you forever.
russell peters
No, I mean...
You get in those places sometimes.
And in those moments, I go, I'm so fucking glad I don't have a gun.
joe rogan
Because you've dated some questionable women.
Is that what it is?
What are you saying?
russell peters
Well, my woman now doesn't even get me there at all, so it's wonderful.
I'm in a very peaceful place in my life.
I've never been this fucking happy with a woman in my life.
unidentified
That's beautiful.
joe rogan
You got lucky.
You can do that, man.
You can get lucky in this life.
I got lucky.
russell peters
Yeah, your one's great.
joe rogan
She's a beautiful person.
Not just pretty.
She's so nice.
russell peters
She really is a sweetheart.
Always, always.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's changed me, man.
Not that I was ever mean, but I was meaner.
And I just didn't know that people could be that nice all the time.
It's the quality of the humans that are around you, man.
They change who you are.
They really do.
It changes everything.
Whether it's your friends or family members or even people that you work with, co-workers.
russell peters
There's a pilot light in us, and the wrong person can blow out your pilot light.
joe rogan
Yes, that's a good way of putting it.
russell peters
That's what happened to me last year.
My pilot light got blown out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
And I got dark.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It can happen with everything, man.
Like, literally with everything in your life.
You know?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Across the board.
Positivity is so important.
And also people that have like-minded values and goals where they just want to improve and they want to do well.
And people that want to be happy.
That's the other thing.
Some people just don't want to be happy.
They're not looking to be happy.
russell peters
I think I'm an innately happy person.
joe rogan
You are.
You're always happy.
russell peters
And I had a lot of bad shit happen to me when I was a kid, but I didn't...
I didn't take it.
joe rogan
What's the worst shit that happened?
russell peters
Just a lot of bad bullying when I was a kid.
Like, bad.
Like, not just like sticks and stones stuff.
Like, you know, physical.
And from strangers.
Adults.
joe rogan
Adults bullied you?
russell peters
Yeah.
You know, in the 70s in Canada, especially where I was living, to be an Indian kid was a rough place to be.
You were very low on the totem pole there.
And you're expendable to them so that you don't equal anything.
So when I hear about things, I'm like, I know what it actually looks and feels like, but I didn't harbor that to make me this bitter person where, oh, I fucking hate white people.
I understood even at that small age that I was like, you know what, I'm pretty sure this will turn around.
And it did.
I got lucky.
I kept the right outlook.
I didn't demonize an entire bunch of people.
I understood that there's this way, there's a process in life, and this is the way it's going to work out for me.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's horrible to see people getting attacked for just some shit they have zero control over at all.
russell peters
Yeah.
That's what was happening.
And I'm talking from like four years old.
Four until I was about 15. It was bad.
And those are very formative years for a human.
joe rogan
Do you think that that's what made you a comic?
russell peters
That's definitely what made my comedy the way it is.
Why I'm so kind of, not obsessed with, but why I'm constantly talking about race and culture and stuff.
I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to tie us all together.
To the average looker, onlooker, it's going to look like I'm separating people, but really I'm not.
I think where we're heading right now, we've ended up in a place now where we went from a melting pot to separation again.
joe rogan
I think it's going to come back.
russell peters
It has to.
joe rogan
I really do.
I think there's plenty of people like you and me that think that we could pull it all together.
We just have to agree upon it.
You know, like what Chappelle was saying, like this kindness conspiracy?
We've got to kind of agree upon that.
russell peters
We really do.
joe rogan
We really do.
And it can be done.
It really can.
It's not that hard.
It doesn't cost any money.
Everybody can participate.
We could all do better because of it.
It's something that's right for everybody.
When you see someone who's got a fucking KKK outfit on or something, that's a sad, sad person.
That's sad.
They're looking to belong.
They're looking to be a part of a group.
russell peters
They want to be part of something.
joe rogan
They're sad.
russell peters
And they really don't know anything about anything.
And so they really don't know anything about anything.
And now they're learning about something, but it's the wrong thing.
joe rogan
Right.
They found a tribe, but it's a shit tribe.
russell peters
Yeah.
And then a lot of them come out of it.
Yeah.
There's a high recovery rate from that, I think.
joe rogan
You know who Christian Piccolini is?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
He's a guy who was in a white power group and then came out of it and now helps people get out of those hate groups.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
And does a lot of work on that.
russell peters
Especially with such an Italian name.
joe rogan
I know, right?
russell peters
It's such a weird thing to do.
joe rogan
I don't know his story exactly.
I heard him on a podcast before.
But there's...
You know, it's like Daryl...
Davis.
Daryl Davis.
unidentified
Is that the black guy that I heard from?
joe rogan
Yes.
He's a gentleman that was on my podcast.
He's a brilliant blues musician, and he has personally himself converted over 200 people to quit the KKK and neo-Nazi organizations.
Yeah, and came on the podcast and explained how it all happened that he was on the road And he was in a club doing music and he sat down with this guy and the guy was like, I never had a drink with a black guy before.
And he's like, what?
And he goes, yeah, I'm in the Klan.
And the guy was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
And he became this guy's friend.
And just said, hey, you know, next time I'm in town, look me up.
And they hung out together.
They had dinner together.
A couple months later, the guy...
Handed him his outfit.
He's a fucking Grand Dragon or whatever it is.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And he said, I can't do this anymore.
I realized I'm wrong.
I've been told this, I lived by this, and it's wrong.
And now I know because of you.
And Daryl has done that with more than 200 people now.
russell peters
He's a big dude, too, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, but he's the sweetheart of a guy and a great musician.
And that's what he started out as.
He's not like this guy who's like, I'm gonna be an activist.
Just this real sweet, open-minded guy, but also very intelligent and very articulate.
And when you're talking to the guy, you can't pretend he's not smart.
So for a lot of these guys, they're like, shit.
When you're talking to someone who you've decided or it's been taught to you that they're an inferior, and then you're talking to them and you realize, this guy's brilliant, he's making sense, he's calm, he's reasonable, I'm wrong.
russell peters
I think that's anything in life.
Somebody's coming at you one way, you're going to have to come at them another way.
Two angry people aren't going to...
I think that's what happened in America last year with the whole election.
Both sides are so extreme.
One hated, one...
They both hated.
It was both full of hate.
And that's why you're not going to...
Because people's back get up against the wall.
They want to be wrong and strong at that point.
joe rogan
Wrong and strong.
russell peters
The old wrong and strong.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a challenging time, but that doesn't mean that we're not going to pull out of it.
I think we're going to pull out of it.
I do.
russell peters
I mean, we have to.
joe rogan
Yeah, we have to.
russell peters
It's not a realistic look at life.
joe rogan
Yeah, we can pull it through.
We can.
russell peters
We can pull it off.
We came this far.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, come on, man.
russell peters
We came this far and then we stopped and we moved backwards a little bit.
It's a stall.
joe rogan
But this is the way it works with progress.
Progress comes in hills and valleys.
And I think our next hill will be higher than the hill that we previously ascended.
I think that's totally a possible scenario.
Or we can descend into madness and, you know, China can take over.
russell peters
China and the Russians.
joe rogan
It's possible too, man.
But if China is controlling China, just stop and think of that.
Like, oh, that's not possible.
Is China controlling China?
Yeah.
Well, China is in control of a billion people.
russell peters
1.4.
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
Or is it 1.5?
joe rogan
Whatever it is.
A billion and tack on another 300,000.
It's not that big of an accomplishment.
russell peters
I think it's...
joe rogan
You know?
russell peters
That's 300 million, isn't it?
The 1.3, the 5. 1.5 is 500 million, isn't it?
joe rogan
Yes.
If they really have 1.5.
Is that what they...
How many people are in China?
russell peters
1.4 or 1.5.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
russell peters
India has 1.3.
joe rogan
Do they really?
russell peters
Yeah.
India and China make up, what is it, more than half the Earth's population or something?
joe rogan
1.4.
russell peters
Or a good third of it.
joe rogan
So China has more than a billion people more than the United States.
And they're in control of those people.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
They got it locked down.
russell peters
Yeah.
They're very...
They're on top of it.
joe rogan
For them to tack on...
It's kind of amazing that America is like the thought leader and the global superpower when we have only 300 and...
What do we have?
330?
What's America have?
Would you guess?
russell peters
Take a guess.
I figured it was around 300 and something.
unidentified
It keeps growing, for whatever reason.
jamie vernon
We're number three behind China and India.
russell peters
Really?
joe rogan
Population-wise?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do we have?
It's a huge drop-off.
What do we have?
331. 331. Wow.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
Look at that.
Come on, India.
Or come in, India.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
It's a major drop-off.
joe rogan
Yeah, $2 billion.
russell peters
You know, if Pakistan had stayed with India, we would have the largest population in the world.
joe rogan
Wow.
russell peters
Because they got 220 million.
joe rogan
That's a big drop-off, too.
Pakistan to India.
russell peters
That's kind of crazy.
Well, I mean, because it was all one place at one point, so we could have 1.6 billion people or something.
joe rogan
So what happened?
russell peters
I don't really understand the politics behind it.
I know the British had something to do with it.
Who fucked up?
joe rogan
British?
russell peters
They fucked up a lot of things.
They kind of did their thing and then bounced on everybody.
joe rogan
They fucked up a lot of things, didn't they?
They used to run shit.
How many people were in England?
Pull that up.
jamie vernon
The UK. 67.8 million.
joe rogan
That ain't shit!
That's fucking California.
russell peters
And how many of them are non...
joe rogan
They used to run everything.
Italy, 60 million.
Tanzania, just Tanzania.
jamie vernon
Sorry, I was breaking down the UK. It's multiple countries.
joe rogan
Wow.
South Korea.
Make dope phones, only 51 million people.
Kind of wild, man.
You keep going down the line.
Did you see this thing where there was a gigantic data leak?
Like, 150 million iPhones got hacked and they didn't tell anybody about it?
They decided to keep it to themselves?
russell peters
Didn't Snowden mention why that happened?
joe rogan
I don't know.
russell peters
He said something about why the iPhone is not the ideal phone for...
It's the ideal phone for hackers.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
That's what they said.
Because it's only like one code you have to figure out.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
russell peters
And then the Androids have so many different systems running in them, it's harder to hack them.
joe rogan
In that respect, yeah.
But the iPhone is a little bit more secure, and it's harder to get things into the app store.
Because there was a thing with Android phones recently.
I have both.
And I use iPhone more often, but I do like Androids, too.
There's some positive qualities, but one of the things that they did was they had an app in the...
Google Play Store, I guess, or I don't know, maybe you had to get it from a third party.
But the app would update your operating system kind of automatically, but it didn't really.
It just fucking hacked into your phone and sent all your data to someone like credit card information or what have you.
I don't know what it sent.
russell peters
I don't understand the Android operating system, but they do have some cool fucking phones.
joe rogan
Oh, the Galaxy S21 Ultra.
I have that one.
It's the shit.
russell peters
You know what I want?
I want that Motorola Flip.
I saw a dude with it.
They brought the Razer back as a...
The shit looked cool as fuck.
joe rogan
You know what's cool?
Hanging up on people.
Snap.
Crick out.
russell peters
Yeah, it's like the old school one.
Fuck that motherfucker.
joe rogan
Snap.
unidentified
Close that motherfucker.
russell peters
Now you're searching and slapping your screen.
joe rogan
Yeah, my friend Gordon has the one that opens up like a tablet.
russell peters
Yeah, that one's really cool too.
joe rogan
Looks pretty dope.
russell peters
It's dope because there's no line.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's pretty sick, because as a regular phone, it's just a chunky regular phone, and it's kind of thin, so you can text with one hand pretty good, especially if you have smaller hands.
And then when you open it up, I mean, you basically have a small iPad.
russell peters
So if you want to watch YouTube videos or some shit, or browse, and it's 5G. There's all these little fake phones showing up on the internet.
Like, what do you think of this?
And it was some cool drop-down phone that had Apple iOS on it.
Apparently there's some Android phone out there that can use Apple iOS on it.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wouldn't trust that motherfucker.
russell peters
No, no, but that does seem like a cool option to have.
joe rogan
Apple's done an amazing job of locking down that ecosystem.
They did such an amazing job.
I mean, they locked it down.
If you don't want that green bubble, you have to go through Apple.
russell peters
Yeah.
The green bubble's annoying to me.
joe rogan
It could be an issue.
And then if you send video, it comes in super low resolution.
russell peters
On the green bubble?
joe rogan
Yeah, if you have an Android phone and you try to send someone a big-ass video.
unidentified
I hate that shit.
russell peters
It's annoying.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't get that iMessage thing.
russell peters
No.
You don't get the confirmation.
You don't know what quality they got.
You gotta go, do you have WhatsApp?
Can I send it to you on WhatsApp?
Ugh.
joe rogan
WhatsApp.
Get the fuck out of here with that.
Yeah, and you have to send it SMS. Like, pictures are lower resolution, but videos are a real problem.
And you can't airdrop.
russell peters
No, I like airdropping.
Big fan of airdropping.
joe rogan
It's the shit.
Just that alone.
That kind of integration.
And for me, as a guy who always takes notes on his phone, that's big.
Because I want ideas for bits.
I want to be able to pull up my notes that I write on my laptop, and I want them to go straight to my phone.
russell peters
Yep.
Same and vice versa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't want to think about it.
russell peters
I'm a big fan of the airdrop.
joe rogan
They got us locked in though.
russell peters
And then they take everything away and make you buy it separately.
joe rogan
And they're, you know, using Chinese slave labor.
russell peters
Son of a...
jamie vernon
I don't see the iPhone hack info story.
joe rogan
From 2015. Oh, okay.
I didn't miss the old part.
Yeah, it was a leak from 2015. They had hacked into...
It was a recent story that Apple had decided not to share the information.
So 150 million phones were potentially compromised and they decided not to share the information.
jamie vernon
It's coming out probably because of that trial they're involved with, I think.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
russell peters
See, the apps, when they first started coming out, they were coming up with some really cool ideas.
There was one app you could get.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Biggest iPhone hack ever.
Fortnite trial exposes emails detailing the Xcode ghost malware.
Okay, because Epic Games and Apple's in the middle of a giant trial right now, because I think Apple wants a piece.
So if you have Fortnite on your phone, Apple gets like 30% or some shit.
And so there's like some thing where Fortnite decided to not have their thing on the App Store because they want all the money.
Am I fucking that up?
unidentified
You're pretty accurate.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Alright, so here it is.
In case it slipped people's memory, in 2015 hackers successfully crept in a potentially dangerous Xcode ghost malware to thousands of iPhone and iPad apps.
Apple, during that time, has been privy to the details of the attack to add the company on their part, said that they notified hundreds of millions of victims.
Researchers also estimate that about 4,000 apps are infected.
What does that mean, though?
On their part.
But what I heard was that they didn't notify people.
Google, Google, Apple, Google, whatever that malware is.
And then Google, Apple chose not to Xcode ghost.
Apple chose not to, what would be the word, alert.
russell peters
Inform.
joe rogan
Yeah, inform.
Apple chose not to inform.
Hmm.
I can't see it.
russell peters
So it was an app you would get and then it would...
I'm not an app guy, so I'm okay.
joe rogan
Is the Epic Games shut?
There it goes.
Apple did not inform victims about the attack.
There it is.
Apple kept mum.
Go to the first one.
Hack read.
Apple News.
There it is.
And this is on Apple News.
Whoops.
No, it's Apple News.
It is Apple News.
Report.
It must be noted that Xcode is Apple's app development tool.
Back then, it was reported that Apple stopped the attack quickly.
However, according to a new report, emails presented during the Epic Games vs.
Apple court proceedings have revealed startling new details.
Here it is, on the particular attack.
It turns out that nearly 128 million iOS users downloaded the apps containing the Xcode ghost malware.
Reportedly, Apple kept this malware attack a secret and didn't share the impact's full details.
That's what I read.
jamie vernon
I thought you were getting into the thing that happened this week.
joe rogan
What happened?
unidentified
Where some pipeline was hacked.
joe rogan
Oh, I was going to get to that, too.
jamie vernon
There's a gas shortage in multiple states right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a real issue with gas, apparently.
unidentified
Really?
russell peters
That sounds way worse.
joe rogan
Well, we have electric cars.
unidentified
Hey.
joe rogan
Hey, Tesla.
russell peters
Do you remember there was this one app, I don't know if you know about this, it was for single guys, and you would put it on your phone, and if you were out at a club you would give the girl your phone to put her number in, and while she was typing in her number would take pictures of her so you would know what the girl looked like.
joe rogan
Really?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why not just take a picture of her?
russell peters
Well, because, you know, you had a club.
Should I? Yeah, whatever.
You didn't want to be like, you know, you want to make it look like you're going to remember her, but he would be like, as she's putting it in, she's taking pictures of her face, so you knew exactly.
joe rogan
For just lazy dudes who are scared to ask for a picture?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're going to get someone's photograph, or get someone's phone number?
russell peters
I think about 10 years ago this app was around.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I didn't know.
If you're going to get someone's photograph, shouldn't you be able to get a picture of them?
russell peters
If you ever get their number, you should be like, hey, can we take a picture?
joe rogan
It's a big deal.
russell peters
Or they'll be like, hey, text me.
All right, here, put your number.
And then click, click, click, you know.
joe rogan
People today.
It's so weird with the dating apps and all the shit that people are doing today.
It's like the world is such a different place.
As communication is becoming more frivolous and easier to just talk shit to people, it's also probably easier to hook up with people.
russell peters
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like kids today on these dating acts, just swiping left and swiping right.
russell peters
Yeah.
A lot of people are meeting their mate that way.
joe rogan
Interesting.
russell peters
I don't know that you want to meet your mate that way.
joe rogan
Why not?
She's the perfect girl.
What do you give a fuck?
You're trying to meet girls that way, selfish asshole.
How about that?
How about he wants to meet people that way, he doesn't want them to meet him that way?
Huh.
russell peters
Not me.
joe rogan
But what if you're out there looking?
russell peters
I was never an app guy for that.
I would rather just meet people in person.
joe rogan
You're actually a famous comedian.
I don't know if you know about that.
russell peters
Never heard about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a little bit easier for you to meet people.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
But if you're a guy who's working all day and you really don't have time to go out there and mingle, but you have, like, shared attributes.
Like, there's something about, you know, your likes and dislikes and the things you're interested in.
russell peters
I mean...
joe rogan
Shared interests.
russell peters
That depends on what app you're on.
And there's the hookup apps.
joe rogan
Right.
russell peters
That are strictly for that.
joe rogan
What are the hookup apps?
russell peters
I think they're, like, you know, your basic, your Tinders, your Bumbles.
joe rogan
Let'sfuck.com.
I don't think Bumble is that.
I think Bumble is, like...
unidentified
Wasn't Bumble more hookup than Tinder?
It's got other...
jamie vernon
You can find BFF on there, and there's also a business Bumble where you can find people to work with, I think is what that's for.
joe rogan
So BFF is you looking for friends?
jamie vernon
For people to hang out with instead of...
russell peters
I am working on an app.
unidentified
Are you?
russell peters
I'm working with this kid.
For real?
I said it as a joke, and he goes, that'd be a really good app.
joe rogan
You don't want to say what it is?
Keep it in mind.
You don't want anybody stealing it.
russell peters
Yeah, I know.
I don't know where we're at with it.
I don't know if it's locked down yet.
joe rogan
Don't say anything.
Does it have to do with mushrooms?
russell peters
No, no, no, it does not.
It's not a hookup app.
joe rogan
Don't say it.
russell peters
It's a romance app.
joe rogan
Keep it together.
Oh, romance.
Look at you.
Romantic.
russell peters
Trying to...
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
But it started off as a joke, and then he was like, it's a really good idea.
He's a young kid.
He's really smart.
joe rogan
If people meet and they get along, who gives a fuck how they meet?
russell peters
True.
joe rogan
Whether it's an app or...
Choking each other.
You know?
russell peters
Yeah.
Choke.com.
joe rogan
You meet some girl in jujitsu and she gets you in a triangle and you're like, she's my new favorite.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's my bestie.
russell peters
You let her get you in a triangle.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you think you date a girl and kick your ass?
russell peters
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that.
unidentified
Really?
russell peters
I don't have an ego about that.
joe rogan
Look at you.
Have you dated some Brazilian lady who just fucking ragdolls you?
Arm bars you all the time?
russell peters
Not dated, but...
joe rogan
She gets mad at you?
russell peters
I've met some.
joe rogan
But would you?
russell peters
Yeah, why not?
joe rogan
If you were a single fellow, I know you're happy right now, but what if you weren't?
russell peters
I like empowered women.
I dig that, though.
joe rogan
There's empowered, and there's also a girl who can kill you with her bare hands.
I'm not interested in that.
russell peters
I mean, you know, she's not going to.
joe rogan
Maybe she will.
russell peters
Then she's equally as dangerous as you are.
joe rogan
Maybe you change your opinion about guns.
russell peters
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
If you're living with some gal.
russell peters
This bitch has a black belt.
I need a gun.
You're tough enough to stop a bullet.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if you're living with a girl who'll fuck you up?
That would be annoying.
You know?
Do you think you can live with the girl stronger than you?
If you're like, could you just open this pickle jar, please?
You'd look away.
russell peters
Well, you don't want her to be physically stronger than you.
You just want her to be more talented than you are in that world.
joe rogan
Oh, like a talented fighter, but you want to be physically stronger.
russell peters
Yeah, I think it's...
joe rogan
Do you think you could date a power lifter?
russell peters
I don't think.
It wouldn't be my speed.
joe rogan
No?
russell peters
That's not my speed.
I like them a little bit more feminine.
joe rogan
What if she's really feminine but strong as fuck?
russell peters
Hey, man, then that's what it is.
That's what you got.
joe rogan
Yeah, you never know until you meet them, right?
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
You might meet her.
russell peters
You know, I never thought I, you know, without saying too much, but I've connected with some ladies in the MMA world.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
russell peters
And at the end of the day, they're just women.
They just want to be treated like women.
joe rogan
Yeah, most of them.
Some of them don't.
Some of them want to beat your ass.
They want to leg kick you.
russell peters
Knee you in the balls.
That's definitely what I don't want.
That's why I want my legs taken out of me.
joe rogan
I know.
I mean, if you were dating a competitive fighter, male or female, the stress of that job is so fucking different.
There's cop...
Firefighter, like this soldier, cop, firefighter, MMA fighter.
russell peters
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
I would imagine like that's kind of...
Yeah, that's kind of the hierarchy of stressful jobs.
Insanely intensely.
Soldier is probably the highest stress.
russell peters
Yes.
joe rogan
And then cop is, a lot of times- Right there with it.
Yeah.
Firefighter, you could die in a fight.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
And then MMA fighter.
Every X amount of months, you have this insane fucking thing that you do where you get in a cage, you put a mouthpiece on, and you try to knock someone unconscious.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
russell peters
I teach my girl little jujitsu moves and she tries to do them to me every now and then.
And I'm like, hey, stop that shit.
I'll be on top of her and she'll be like, hey, is this?
And she framed me up.
joe rogan
Ezekiel?
russell peters
Yeah, a little Ezekiel.
And then I'll be like, no, you don't have it.
I keep fucking up by telling her, you don't have it.
And then she keeps working it and I'm like, there it is.
joe rogan
You ever see that guy, Alexi Olenek, who lets guys mount him and he Ezekiel's him from the bottom?
russell peters
Oh, no.
joe rogan
You've never seen him?
russell peters
No.
joe rogan
I think he's tapped out.
Well, at least one guy in the UFC. I think it's been more than one.
But he's got this crazy move.
russell peters
He Ezekiel's you from the top position?
joe rogan
From the bottom.
It's madness.
He's basically doing a rear naked choke from the front while you're on top of him.
But he doesn't have any leg control.
He's not squeezing you with his body.
He just has this nasty constriction.
And he lets guys mount.
So what happens is he's got his arm wrapped around you.
He's stopping the mount.
And you think that you're passing.
And you're mounting him.
And right as you do that, you're thinking about mounting him.
And he fucking slides it in.
Watch this.
Watch how he does this.
So he's got a hold of it right here, but right now he's just kind of protecting him, and he lets the guy mount him, and then boom!
He sinks it in.
russell peters
Oh, you see it locking in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, look how he does it.
As soon as he sinks it in, you're fucked, man.
You're fucked, because it's so tight.
And he's got his arm deep in the pocket of the bicep.
russell peters
Wow.
joe rogan
Just like a rear naked choke.
Madness, right?
russell peters
That's wild.
joe rogan
Look how sad that dude is.
He's so sad.
russell peters
Wow.
joe rogan
He's so sad.
russell peters
He was about to go to sleep, that's why.
joe rogan
Yeah, he has to get you.
Dude, it's over.
You tapped.
He's like, I can't.
What happened?
russell peters
Where's he from?
joe rogan
Russia, bro.
Hard people.
Show that again.
russell peters
Is it a Sambo move that he's doing?
joe rogan
Well, Ezekiel's just a standard submission move, but to do it like this is crazy.
But go for the transition, because it's like...
So this is what happens.
You're in side control and you think you're doing okay, right?
And he just kind of holds his head.
But then as soon as the guy mounts, then he slides it in front of his face.
He's like, oh, you fucked up, son.
I wanted you to do that.
And he gets it in perfect.
Have you tried it?
No, I have not.
I've done it from the top, but I don't know anybody else who's done that like that.
Not only in an MMA fight, but also with gloves.
Have you ever tried grappling with gloves on?
russell peters
Oh, it's awful, right?
joe rogan
It's hard.
russell peters
Yeah.
I'm really impressed when they lock on guys with gloves on.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
He did it on this guy, too.
So this guy takes him down.
This guy takes him down.
Same thing.
Look, he doesn't have it in here.
He allows you to mount.
And then as you mount, he slides it in.
Oh, no, no.
He's in half guard here.
He got it from half guard.
But the same thing.
russell peters
And they all have the same look on their face.
joe rogan
It's such a sneaky move.
But only Nick has that crazy grappler strength.
russell peters
What weight is he?
joe rogan
Heavyweight.
russell peters
Mark Hunt?
joe rogan
Yeah, he fought Mark Hunt.
I think he got Mark Hunt in an armbar or something.
I think, yeah, that's it.
russell peters
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a beast.
russell peters
Is he getting a title shot soon?
joe rogan
No, he's lost to a lot of guys, but he's got to be a top 15 heavyweight.
What's only Nick ranked?
I would imagine he's ranked like 11, 12, somewhere in that range.
He's older.
He's in his 40s.
He's probably not going to get a title shot.
russell peters
That sucks.
joe rogan
But he's a tough guy.
How old is he?
He's got like 60-plus MMA fights, too.
russell peters
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Does it say how old he is?
Oh, it's ranking.
He's ranked 15th, yeah.
See?
I know my shit.
I'm a professional, believe it or not.
russell peters
You know, I do miss the UFC without you when you're not commentating.
joe rogan
Well, good news.
This weekend, I'll be there.
russell peters
Who's fighting this weekend?
joe rogan
Well, we have the lightweight championship of the world, Charles Oliveira versus Michael Chandler.
Pull up the card so you can see the whole card.
He's 43. Only Nick.
Oliveira versus Chandler.
I'm a little upset at Michael Chandler's six-pack.
Makes me feel like a fat fuck.
Let's take a look at the fight card there.
And Oliveira's a beast.
That's a great fight.
Tony Ferguson versus Benil Dariush.
Love it.
Kaitlyn Chukagian versus Viviana Arrujo.
Shane Burgos versus Edson Barboza.
That's a fucking barn burner.
unidentified
Edson Barboza, wow.
joe rogan
At 145. He's featherweight now.
Woo!
Matt Schnell, Rogerio, Botturin, and who else is in the prelim?
Jacare, Andre Munoz, that's on ESPN. Lando Venata, Groovy Lando, and Mike Grundy.
russell peters
Is she related to the other Shefchenko?
joe rogan
Yeah, Antonina is her sister.
Andrea Lee, Andrea KGB Lee, another Russian.
Jordan Wright, Jamie Pickett.
russell peters
Did you see that Michael Page knockout the other day?
joe rogan
Dude, Michael Page is a beast.
He's so good.
He's an interesting cat because he came from the point-fighting background.
He's got such a crazy style that hands down, wide stance, leaps in.
russell peters
He's the one that got kicked out of the UFC? No, no, no.
joe rogan
He was never in the UFC. Michael Page lost to Douglas Lima for the title in Bellator as a welterweight.
And he's elite.
He's really good, man.
He's really fucking good.
Really talented.
russell peters
Dana never tried to recruit him.
joe rogan
Well, he was over in Bellator already, and they treat him well.
Look, it's good that there's good fighters over there, man.
I think it's really good.
I think it's important.
We need more competition, whether it's PFL or one championship.
It's real good to have a lot of different organizations.
russell peters
I like one.
I like one a lot.
joe rogan
They're doing great.
russell peters
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They have grappling now, too.
You know what's interesting about one?
They have Muay Thai with little gloves, like John Wayne Parr just fought Nikki Holtzkin in a Muay Thai bout in a cage.
And now they're going to do grappling.
russell peters
Just submission grappling?
joe rogan
Just submission grappling.
Yeah.
They signed Gordon Ryan to fight Shinya Aoki.
russell peters
Ooh, Gordon Ryan.
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So he's over there doing a grappling matchup.
russell peters
That's Henzo's guy, right, Gordon?
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, John Donaher comes from Henzo, and John Donaher is the main coach of Gordon Ryan.
And Gordon Ryan's literally the greatest grappler of all time.
It's a showcase more than anything, because Shinya Aoki is also much smaller.
I mean, it's a mismatch in every way.
It's a mismatch physically in size.
Gordon's way bigger.
It's a mismatch talent-wise.
russell peters
Are they not doing it by weight?
joe rogan
This fight is not...
I think what it is is nobody wants to get fucked up by Gordon.
But at least if you're a lighter guy, you can say, hey, I took a chance.
He had me by 50 pounds.
russell peters
And I'm going to try my speed on him.
joe rogan
Yeah, good luck.
Good luck.
Good luck doing anything to Gordon.
He's a fucking gigantic, amazing grappler who trains every day.
He's from New Jersey, but they live in Puerto Rico now.
russell peters
Seems to be the place.
joe rogan
Well, they couldn't do any grappling in New York City, man.
They shut down grappling in New York City.
russell peters
That's right.
joe rogan
They had to figure out what to do.
They had a lot of competitions they had to train for, and they were getting shut down.
People were coming to the basement where Henzo's place is and fucking with them.
And so someone that they know that's their friend in New York City or in Puerto Rico, rather, offered their place to them.
And so they packed up their shit and they moved to Puerto Rico.
russell peters
Danaher moved there too, right?
joe rogan
Yep, they all did.
The whole squad.
Gary Tonin, Craig Jones.
They all moved down there.
Nicky Rodriguez.
I'm hoping they move to Texas.
They're talking about doing that.
russell peters
That'd be good.
unidentified
That would be the shit.
joe rogan
I'll help them.
I'll fucking throw up the bat signal.
Let's go.
russell peters
Yeah, you're the guy.
You should run for mayor here eventually.
joe rogan
No.
No.
I don't want to be a mayor.
I don't want to be any kind of politician.
So if you're thinking about it, no.
Not interested.
I'm not interested.
You feel me?
russell peters
I feel you, kid.
joe rogan
We should get you out of here so you can catch your flight.
russell peters
I gotta get your flight.
joe rogan
You gotta fly back.
Got a lot of shit going on in California.
russell peters
I do.
I gotta do my engagement photos tomorrow.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
You excited?
russell peters
I am, actually.
joe rogan
You're already wearing a wedding ring.
russell peters
Yeah, you know, what's funny about that is when I gave her an engagement ring, she said, you've given four other bitches an engagement ring before me, and you never followed through.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
She said that?
You were a little too honest.
russell peters
She said, I don't give a fuck.
You know me.
She said, you know what?
Women have been engaged to you, but you've never been engaged to them.
Show me something.
So she bought me a ring.
She was like, I'm wearing this, you're wearing this.
That sounds fair.
I like it.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
russell peters
And I really like wearing it, to be honest with you.
joe rogan
See, sometimes, I mean, just because you went through some ones that didn't work out, I think this one's going to work out.
I like all the words coming out of your mouth, Russell Peters.
russell peters
You know, Joseph, I'm happy for you out here.
joe rogan
Thanks, brother.
russell peters
You seem spry and happy and relaxed, and it makes me happy.
unidentified
Thanks.
joe rogan
I'm happy.
Everything's good.
russell peters
I'm glad Jamie's out here.
joe rogan
Look at Jamie.
russell peters
Jamie looks miserable as fuck, but he's happy.
joe rogan
That's not true.
russell peters
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
He looks happy.
Listen, brother, I miss you.
I love you.
It's always great to see you.
russell peters
Thanks.
joe rogan
I miss seeing you around the store.
russell peters
Can I promo my podcast again?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
That's Culturally Cancelled with Russell Peters.
joe rogan
Culturally Cancelled?
russell peters
Culturally Cancelled.
That's what I called it.
joe rogan
Okay.
russell peters
It's on iHeartRadio.
joe rogan
Okay.
And YouTube as well?
Do you have a YouTube?
russell peters
I believe there's a YouTube format of it.
joe rogan
Is it a video or is it just audio right now?
russell peters
You see how you have really good cameras set up?
joe rogan
Yeah.
russell peters
I have an iPhone set up.
joe rogan
That's fine.
That's how Lex Friedman does his.
It looks great.
When you look at it on YouTube, it looks just as good.
russell peters
Yeah, it's fine.
joe rogan
When he came here and we did one, he did it just with iPhones.
russell peters
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, with phones.
There's no problem, man.
Phones today are very good, right?
I mean, you could film a fucking movie with a phone today.
russell peters
Yeah, we're good with that.
I mean, we'll step it up eventually, accordingly.
joe rogan
Hey man, go back and look at episode one of this fucking stupid show.
russell peters
When did it start?
2010, right?
29. So I started doing it in 2010. In December of 2010 was the first one I did.
joe rogan
Wow.
russell peters
In your house.
joe rogan
Wow, remember those days?
You hear my kids screaming in the background?
russell peters
No, they were babies then.
Your babies are the same age as my babies.
joe rogan
You'd stub a toe and scream and you'd hear in the background.
We were on couches.
russell peters
And your wife was so sweet.
joe rogan
The Feel Good Podcast.
Look at you with the fucking hat!
Look at you.
You look like a fucking...
russell peters
You know Nick Turturro, don't you?
joe rogan
Yes.
russell peters
Oh, my God.
You know what's funny about that when we're doing this?
He's smoking a cigar, and he's so passionate he's talking, and he's lighting the cigar right by the mic, and the mic caught fire.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
How's he doing, man?
I haven't seen that guy in forever.
russell peters
He's doing great.
joe rogan
Fantastic actor.
russell peters
Amazing actor.
And that's his cousin-in-law, Gabe.
joe rogan
White Claw Gabe?
Because he loves the White Claws?
russell peters
He loves the White Claws.
He's autistic, but he's fucking hilarious.
He's the sweetheart of a man, Gabe.
Love that guy.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
So that's available.
The Feel Good episode?
unidentified
Yeah, we called it the Feel Good episode.
joe rogan
And that's your Russell Peters channel.
russell peters
Is that on the Russell Peters channel?
joe rogan
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
All right, my brother.
Let's wrap this bitch up.
Bring it home.
Thank you.
russell peters
Thanks, Joseph.
joe rogan
Great to see you, my friend.
russell peters
Always.
You too, Jamie.
Good to see you, pal.
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