June 25, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Ditch him up! | ||
| What's up, brother? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| We're rolling. | ||
| Rolling. | ||
| So, I've been talking about you a lot lately. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| You know I love you. | ||
| I love you too. | ||
| But it's also your Instagram page has become a highlight of police brutality. | ||
| And I know you take a lot of shit for it, but I think it's very important. | ||
| And we were just talking about this. | ||
| I think it's important not just for the people, but I think it's important for the police. | ||
| I think it's important for police reform. | ||
| I think they need to see. | ||
| Like, this is what happens when you have shitty people doing this very fucking difficult job, and you got a lot of them. | ||
| I think, you know, my thing was it just became... | ||
| Everybody just always says, well, it's only a few bad apples, a few bad apples, a few bad apples. | ||
| And I'm like, well, I can just show you there's a lot of these bad apples. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And I think that, like you said, it's better for future police. | ||
| But if they're so scared to do their job, it's because everyone hates them. | ||
| Because everybody hates them because they're constantly being dickheads to everybody. | ||
| That makes it worse for the good cops. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I do know what you mean. | ||
| I was talking about this the other day with Coleon Noir and we were saying that it's a job that is almost impossible to do for the average person. | ||
| You need to be like a fucking Navy SEAL. You need to be like a person who's gone through some rigorous training And a person who really understands how to defuse situations, need to be a person who knows how to keep your shit together, a person who knows how to respect people. | ||
| They need a lot more training. | ||
| Jocko Willink was talking about that. | ||
| He said, I think they should have 20% training. | ||
| He goes, they train for like You know, a couple of weeks. | ||
| It's like nine weeks or something. | ||
| Yeah, and then it's over. | ||
| And then they're out there in the field. | ||
| He goes, I think 20% of their time should be spent training. | ||
| I don't mean to interrupt you, but maybe it's even worse than that, is it's not nine weeks and then the field. | ||
| In LA County, you want to be a sheriff? | ||
| It's nine weeks or however long, and if it's 10 weeks, I'm sorry, or 12 weeks. | ||
| It's not that many weeks. | ||
| Right out of the academy, you go straight to two years in the jail. | ||
| They're like, oh, all the human interaction you've had before you went to the academy, now we're going to surround you by the worst examples of everybody for two years. | ||
| And then you're going to go on the streets and try to be normal. | ||
| You go to jails for two years? | ||
| Two year minimum. | ||
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What? | |
| All sheriffs. | ||
| That's probably because they just need people in the jails, right? | ||
| Well, that goes back to what... | ||
| I mean, I feel like they... | ||
| There's a lot of shit going on there. | ||
| There's a lot of shit going on there. | ||
| First of all, there's private prisons. | ||
| Then there's drug laws. | ||
| Those are the two big ones. | ||
| You want to find out why the fucking prisons are filled up with people. | ||
| Those are two big ones right there. | ||
| How many people are in jail for shit they should never be in jail for? | ||
| Decisions that other people make with their own body that doesn't harm anybody other than themselves. | ||
| You could buy alcohol, but you can't buy coke. | ||
| You can't buy weed. | ||
| Nonviolent drug offenses is a giant percentage of the population. | ||
| And then you said they go to jail for that. | ||
| Because they made a mistake. | ||
| But then they don't just get out of jail and they're free. | ||
| They put you on probation. | ||
| And they put these extended five years probation. | ||
| Anything's a probation violation. | ||
| And then they just keep you back into that same system. | ||
| Back into the same system. | ||
| Back to the same system. | ||
| You know, Father's Day, I was out back. | ||
| I did like a post around my kids. | ||
| You know, I'm really proud of my kids. | ||
| So I did a post on Father's Day. | ||
| And I was like, man, it's Father's Day. | ||
| I'm gonna chill. | ||
| I'm gonna smoke a joint. | ||
| Fucking crack a beer. | ||
| It's like 10 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| I'm gonna do that on Father's Day, you know? | ||
| And... | ||
| I'm sitting there, a swirl of joy, and I'm like, I want to do a post for Ignite. | ||
| Shout out to Ignite. | ||
| And I'm like, it hit me like it's Father's Day. | ||
| How many fathers are in prison right now still to this day over something that I can do legally and post on the Instagram now? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Not only that. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| In jail for something that's now an essential. | ||
| Like it's an essential thing that you can do during COVID. Like when everything was locked down, you could still buy weed. | ||
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Nuts. | |
| It's crazy. | ||
| And then you can't just blindly turn your eyes to all this stuff. | ||
| No. | ||
| With everything going on in the world, that's why I'm putting this stuff on my Instagram. | ||
| It needs to be seen. | ||
| Yeah, I'm glad you're doing it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I know you take a lot of hate for it, and that's one of the reasons why I highlighted it. | ||
| I want to... | ||
| Shine people your way and let them know. | ||
| Like, you're not doing this because you're a dickhead. | ||
| You're doing it because you're showing horrible shit. | ||
| There's a video that you show that I've watched so many times, man. | ||
| There's the cop that rear naked chokes that lady and throws her to the ground for no reason. | ||
| Horrendous. | ||
| No reason. | ||
| Horrendous. | ||
| And you would see him, like, some days I'm like, sometimes I don't have time. | ||
| I'm not even going to look at the comments because I don't want to go there. | ||
| But some days, like, today I got time. | ||
| I will battle with these fucking assholes in the comments all day long. | ||
| They'll defend that. | ||
| Well, she shouldn't have resisted. | ||
| I want context. | ||
| Show me context. | ||
| If that was your mom... | ||
| What scenario or context are you looking for that that would be okay? | ||
| Or your lady. | ||
| To jump on your back or your daughter. | ||
| Or your daughter. | ||
| Or your grandma. | ||
| Yeah, Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It's people that shouldn't be cops. | ||
| And it's too easy to be a cop. | ||
| It's too easy. | ||
| And they don't get paid enough. | ||
| And they don't get trained well enough. | ||
| And this defunding the police shit is the wrong way to handle it. | ||
| I know they think it's the right way to handle it. | ||
| Yeah, these cops are bad. | ||
| We just take away all the money. | ||
| Oh my god, you're going to create fucking chaos. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't looked into the defunding thing a lot. | ||
| I've heard about it a lot. | ||
| But when you talk about defunding, let's talk about why do these cops need fucking tanks in downtown? | ||
| Why do these cops need all these AR-15s and full bullet? | ||
| What are we training for? | ||
| We're trying to scare people. | ||
| Why are we spending all of these tax dollars to scare people? | ||
| I'm going to show you some shit that John Joseph sent me. | ||
| My buddy John Joseph from the Cro-Mags, he's... | ||
| This shows that people who have different points of view could be good friends, because he's a good friend of mine. | ||
| He wrote a book called Meat is for Pussies. | ||
| So there you go, folks. | ||
| We can all get along. | ||
| We really can. | ||
| You fucking idiots. | ||
| But anyway, he sent me some shit. | ||
| His friend is working homicide in Harlem, and 21 people got shot the other day. | ||
| Because nobody wants to be a cop there anymore. | ||
| So it's fucking madness. | ||
| Like, he said, it is madness in New York City. | ||
| Like, literally, goddammit, where can I find it? | ||
| Like, nobody wants to do the fucking job. | ||
| He's like, it's crazy down there. | ||
| They didn't want to do the job before, or they don't want to do the job now that the heat and the spotlight is on them. | ||
| Now everybody's resigning. | ||
| Well, if I can't do whatever I want and have absolute immunity, then I don't want the job anymore. | ||
| You shouldn't have had the fucking job to begin with. | ||
| That's a good point too. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, why did you have the job? | ||
| Alright, look at this. | ||
| This is all the fucking people that got shot the other night. | ||
| That's one day. | ||
| That's what happens when there's no cops. | ||
| When there's no cops and no one's policing anything, people just go ham. | ||
| I mean, that's what you saw in Santa Monica. | ||
| Santa Monica is as white as Wonder Bread, right? | ||
| And it was crazy during the looting. | ||
| I mean, crazy. | ||
| The cops were told to stand down. | ||
| They were told to stand around and watch. | ||
| So the whole thing of, you know, hey, You need the cops. | ||
| When you call them, you need them. | ||
| When shit goes crazy, the cops are there for you. | ||
| Not that time. | ||
| The sheriff actually told them to not do anything. | ||
| So people were smashing windows and stealing things, and they're standing around. | ||
| There's videos of this one guy running around the street pointing guns at people, cars smashing into each other. | ||
| It's like a movie. | ||
| What was the point of telling them to stand down? | ||
| I think they thought that people were going to burn all this anger out, the George Floyd anger, and that somehow or another, like, let them do it and then we'll clean up the mess. | ||
| It's just incompetent policing. | ||
| It's incompetent leadership. | ||
| So does the person that made that choice, do we vote for him? | ||
| Because everybody should probably vote for her. | ||
| Like, these are the kind of decisions that need to be made. | ||
| And you have to ask yourself, what was the purpose in telling them that? | ||
| Well, this is a liberal, progressive perspective. | ||
| This is something that they've tried in a bunch of different cities. | ||
| They also, de Blasio did the same thing in New York City. | ||
| Cops were literally told to stand down. | ||
| And the cops are standing there, and they're doing nothing. | ||
| The videos from New York City are the nuttiest, because people are filming them from their apartments. | ||
| So they're looking down on the street while cars are running people over, and people are smashing into windows and running in and stealing stuff. | ||
| All these kids just wanting free shit. | ||
| Nothing to do with black lives for the most part. | ||
| A lot of them were just opportunists looking for stealing and then also caught up in the chaos of the smashing windows and stealing stuff and then the cops aren't doing anything and they're young and they've been out of work for three fucking months and everybody's broke. | ||
| It's just so many factors compounded together. | ||
| Giuliani was actually on Fox News talking about there's a particular like political perspective on how to deal with looting and riots in these particular situations and the idea is to let it burn out. | ||
| Let these people burn it out of their system, but that it doesn't work. | ||
| He's like this is an outdated style of policing that they figured out doesn't work in like the 60s and 70s. | ||
| But there's a lot of progressive people that are in positions of leadership that still think it's a good idea. | ||
| Seems like a terrible idea. | ||
| Well, nobody knows really what the fuck to do when everything goes haywire. | ||
| It's like theories. | ||
| Like, what do you do? | ||
| Well, you better protect lives, but don't worry about property because everything's gone nuts. | ||
| And then the other perspective is send in the fucking National Guard and everybody's like, don't do that. | ||
| That's the military. | ||
| So I don't know what the correct perspective is. | ||
| And thank God I'm not a fucking governor or a mayor. | ||
| That's when you know things are fucked. | ||
| If someone like me ever gets to a position like that. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Part of me thinks that the National Guard would be off-duty servicemen, or however that works, that are from this city or from the area, would probably do a lot better job. | ||
| And get more respect than the police that are driving around shooting kids with pepper balls and doing all this crazy shit we're seeing everywhere. | ||
| You would say that, but one of the most egregious videos of police brutality was the National Guard in Minnesota, where those girls were on their porch. | ||
| I don't know if you saw that one. | ||
| And these National Guard dickheads are walking down the street like, get inside! | ||
| Get inside! | ||
| And they go, light them up! | ||
| And they're shooting rubber bullets at these fucking girls in their house! | ||
| They're on their porch! | ||
| These girls got hit! | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And she's like, ow, fuck! | ||
| And she's like, inside her house. | ||
| And then a bunch of people have lost eyes. | ||
| There's a bunch of people who have lost eyes doing this. | ||
| There's so many. | ||
| And everyone now, everyone's just tagging me in videos. | ||
| And it's overwhelming. | ||
| That kid that got shot in the face, the other one lost his eye. | ||
| Multiple people have lost their eye. | ||
| Journalists have lost their eyes. | ||
| The video I posted of that guy, they're like all squared up. | ||
| He's like walking toward him talking shit or whatever and he's like smoking a cigarette and they mace him in the face and he turns around like a fucking G like hits the cigarette like what a dick turns back and they shoot him in the face point blank with like a I think it's a tear gas canister to the face in the face I saw it I mean it explodes in his face Yeah, who knows what happened to that guy? | ||
| You know? | ||
| But it's, yeah, that is not serving or protecting. | ||
| It's neither of those things. | ||
| On any level. | ||
| On any level. | ||
| And, you know, I get it, man. | ||
| Look, there's a fucking video. | ||
| We want to talk about the other perspective. | ||
| There's a video. | ||
| Go to Hector Lombard's Instagram. | ||
| There's a video. | ||
| I mean, this is where it gets really squirrely. | ||
| Because there's this dumb white guy who's in the face of this black cop. | ||
| The black cop's not doing anything. | ||
| He's doing his job. | ||
| And this guy's calling him a bitch. | ||
| He's calling him all these terrible names. | ||
| This scrawny-ass man-bun-wearing dickhead is in this cop's face like, what happened to Black Lives Matter? | ||
| Like, if this is Black Lives Matter, this is a black guy. | ||
| Like, what are you doing? | ||
| He's not even doing anything, man. | ||
| He's standing there trying to keep the peace, and you're fucking with him and inciting him. | ||
| It's people, man. | ||
| It's people. | ||
| People, there's a lot of us, suck. | ||
| And in pressure situations, a lot of us suck. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And these cops that you're seeing that are doing these horrible things, they're just fucking people, man. | ||
| And if you give a person that insane power to mace a guy in the face and then shoot him in the head with a fucking tear gas canister, that guy's got to be held accountable. | ||
| And you've got to make sure that never fucking happens again. | ||
| And that video should be used for training purposes. | ||
| But everybody else on that day, they say that there's good cops. | ||
| Everybody else on that guy's team knows that guy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They know that guy. | ||
| You're in a locker room with all your buddies or whatever. | ||
| You know who cheats on his wife and who doesn't. | ||
| You know that guy. | ||
| You know that guy's a fucking asshole. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what do you do? | ||
| It's just like, I look at it. | ||
| They feel like they can't do anything because those people protect them. | ||
| If they're in the middle of a fucking shootout, they don't want to be the guy that doesn't get back up because you ratted out the guy that shot the guy with the tear canister. | ||
| Well, if that's the problem that we're facing, then it's time to clean house and start all over again. | ||
| And everybody needs to be—you're all fired, and then you can reapply for your job, but you're going to reapply for your job from a completely different system or a completely different interview process, somebody that's not attached to you. | ||
| Because if that's the problem that you have is now I can't trust—these guys aren't going to trust me, then what are we supposed to do? | ||
| Just say it's okay every time that happens? | ||
| We shouldn't. | ||
| We definitely shouldn't say it's okay. | ||
| They need reform. | ||
| There's no question about it. | ||
| Anybody who says they don't need reform needs to go to the Joe Schilling's Instagram page. | ||
| And for real, the other one, the old man, that fucking old man that gets pushed down and cracks his fucking head. | ||
| And then those guys in solidarity quit and walk off the job. | ||
| And then when the guys get released from whatever cops got charged or released from whatever, all the other cops are outside plausiting them. | ||
| Yeah, you can't push an old guy to the ground and he cracks his head open and you walk away. | ||
| I don't know what that old guy said to them. | ||
| I mean, he's apparently an old hippie that's like been a peace activist forever. | ||
| And you know, he's like 80 something years old or something like that. | ||
| He's really old man. | ||
| Like when that 70 something years old, do you remember 75 when he gets pushed Ben, you could see he's feeble. | ||
| He falls. | ||
| He has no control over his body and bangs his fucking head off the concrete. | ||
| And they just leave him there, man. | ||
| They just leave him there. | ||
| No one's doing CPR. No one's calling a medic. | ||
| No one's checking him. | ||
| No one's holding his hand. | ||
| No one's doing a goddamn thing. | ||
| You just watch an assault. | ||
| You watch an assault on an old man. | ||
| On a helpless old man, or a helpless woman, or a helpless 13-year-old girl you're slamming around. | ||
| It's all weak, weak, weak, weak, weak men that are doing this. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And these are the ones that we give... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's like this... | ||
| Lack of masculinity. | ||
| So we're like scared. | ||
| So we give somebody else the power and you're giving weak minded people guns and power, right? | ||
| You know giving people guns and power that the psychological ramifications of that job Must be crazy if you're day in day out seeing gunshots and fucking suicides and car accidents and stabbings and rape and All day long you're seeing the worst aspects of humanity that your mind gets fucked I've talked to a lot of cops that are good guys and They'll tell you like the job is hard man. | ||
| There's days where you Literally you would you think about taking your own life so you don't have to see anything anymore They say that. | ||
| I've heard that from cops. | ||
| And these are not cops that are abusive. | ||
| They're cops that are just like, man, I'm telling you, it's like, you get overwhelmed. | ||
| Like, you can only walk up on so many suicides, so many shotgun wounds to the face. | ||
| You can only walk up on so many of those and keep your sanity. | ||
| And, you know, the other thing that Jocko Willink was saying was that it's the same thing in the teams. | ||
| Like, psychologically, some people can handle anything. | ||
| And some people cannot handle anything. | ||
| Some people just one or two things and they're off tilt. | ||
| They just can't. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| But some people, they can go back home to their family and be a good dad and be a good husband and be a good neighbor and be a good person and just absorb it and just go, well, it's horrible, but hey, that's life. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| Then that's another area that needs to be reformed is mental health with officers or whatever. | ||
| But we can't just ignore the whole thing and say, well, it's a tough job. | ||
| No, we can't. | ||
| It's like the Chris Rock thing about you can't be sometimes a good pilot and be a pilot. | ||
| You can't just crash into things. | ||
| You can't go without accountability. | ||
| Off topic, but that's how I feel about judges. | ||
| How many fights can you screw up before there's an accountability? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, no, that's a real good point. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's like basically every job, you know. | ||
| It's just some jobs have much higher consequences and cops, it's like the highest. | ||
| It's one of the highest. | ||
| Cops, soldiers, there's a few with the highest consequences of your mistakes, you know. | ||
| And zero accountability. | ||
| Very little. | ||
| They only do, cops don't get, don't go to regular court. | ||
| They get internal investigations. | ||
| They all protect their own. | ||
| They protect each other. | ||
| They're on their own little team. | ||
| That woman, what is her name? | ||
| Breonna Taylor? | ||
| Is that her name? | ||
| The woman who got shot in her home. | ||
| And then, no knock warrant, kicked down the wrong door. | ||
| Shot through the window. | ||
| She was playing with her son or little brother or somebody in the bed of the video game. | ||
| And then they charged her boyfriend, her husband, with attempted murder for shooting back at the person who's shooting through the window and didn't tell them they were cops. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| I mean, they have this guy cuffed in a fucking jumpsuit going to jail. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And the cop who did that only got fired. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| There was another one where the guy got... | ||
| And just now, just now got fired, by the way. | ||
| That happened quite a while ago. | ||
| The one I posted of the guy in the hotel where they called, he had a pellet gun because he was like an out of town exterminator and he's with his girlfriend in a hotel room and they call the cops. | ||
| The cops come and they're like lined up down the hall with an AR-15 screaming in ridiculous orders. | ||
| Yes, crawl, crawl over here. | ||
| Hands behind your back, crawl while you have, stretch your head and your temple, but don't fucking move or I'll kill you. | ||
| Don't reach back. | ||
| The guy kept losing his pants because he didn't have a belt on. | ||
| He's crying. | ||
| He's like, please, please. | ||
| And they just fucking gun him down while he's belly down. | ||
| So they already knew what they wanted to do and they're waiting for him to give the reason. | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| It's not hard to tell that guy is not a threat. | ||
| Just like it's not hard to tell that that woman, like the one where they throw the woman down and the cop jumps on her back and puts her in a rear naked choke. | ||
| What do you do when you argue with your wife at home or your sister or your girlfriend? | ||
| At what point does your, where do you get the right to just jump to that conclusion just because you're a cop? | ||
| That woman's not a threat to you. | ||
| No. | ||
| That old man that I posted yesterday, they body slammed it. | ||
| I don't know if you saw the one where there's a guy who got pulled over going five miles an hour over the speed limit and the officer is threatening to pepper spray him because he's filming. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| See that one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of them, man. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| There's another one that's a black guy, and he's just losing his shit on the cop. | ||
| That's a new one, right? | ||
| Yeah, I just saw it recently. | ||
| He's like, you pulled me over for not using my turn signal, and you walked up to my window with a gun. | ||
| I have a gun pointed at me. | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| I got kids. | ||
| I got a wife. | ||
| I want to live my life. | ||
| Why the fuck? | ||
| Because I made a turn signal? | ||
| Why are these guys so terrified to do their job? | ||
| Well, you don't know what it's like to work the streets of South Side of Chicago. | ||
| There's people that grow up there. | ||
| There's people that are raised there. | ||
| There's old ladies that walk down the street there. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So don't tell me because you're too terrified to do your job. | ||
| It makes it okay for you to kill people. | ||
| Well, it's definitely not okay to behave like that because they escalate way before it becomes a real thing. | ||
| There's nothing going on. | ||
| You're pulling a guy over. | ||
| It's one thing if you're pulling a guy over and his windows are all blacked out and he's not complying, he's not rolling down his window, you should get sketched out. | ||
| And you rent his tag and he has 15 armed robbery charges or whatever. | ||
| But then, you know, there needs to be solutions. | ||
| All this complaining about it is great. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| I really think what you're doing is very good. | ||
| And I think the cops should think it too. | ||
| They really should, man, because it should highlight the need for reform and highlight the need for education and highlight the need for better training and better funding. | ||
| You want better people? | ||
| You've got to pay them. | ||
| You can't have billboards up that say, earn $50,000 a year, have a great gig. | ||
| You know, that's not the people you want, man. | ||
| You want it to be difficult to be a cop. | ||
| It sounds like a joke, but it's not a joke. | ||
| You need more training time to become a barber than it is to become a cop. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| That's not a joke. | ||
| It sounds like a joke. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| It's a fucking fact. | ||
| We give these people that have very little training whatsoever and very little background on their mental stability. | ||
| You know a fucking weirdo when you meet him, Joe? | ||
| You're like, oh, that guy's a little off. | ||
| You're not going to give that guy a fucking gun and a badge and then the right to do whatever he wants. | ||
| And that's what we do. | ||
| And it keeps biting us in the ass all the time. | ||
| Yeah, I have a buddy of mine and he has this dude who was his trainer that kept trying to be a cop. | ||
| The guy was fucking insane. | ||
| Fucking insane. | ||
| He would tell him in the middle of training, Jesus doesn't want you doing that right now. | ||
| Jesus wants you doing something different. | ||
| And he'd be like, what? | ||
| He's like, Jesus wants you doing squats today. | ||
| Just, uh, gotta trust in the Lord, man. | ||
| Today it's squats. | ||
| He's like, what the fuck are you saying? | ||
| He's like, he was wrong. | ||
| Like, something's off in his head, right? | ||
| And he just kept saying that, yeah, Long Beach turned me down, so, uh, you know, I'm gonna try for the Pasadena Police Department. | ||
| Like, this guy was mentally unstable and he kept trying to become a cop. | ||
| Now, if one police... | ||
| Department was light on people and they needed that guy and they gave that guy a gun and let that guy pull people over and Jesus tells them to shoot somebody. | ||
| Florida's saying that they would take on the police department and Florida said we would take all the police officers at the other state that got in trouble or whatever. | ||
| Atlanta? | ||
| Whatever the fucking thing was. | ||
| Atlanta's all the police officers are not responding. | ||
| There's people that applied to be in the military and didn't pass the thing but still became cops. | ||
| It takes a lower standard to be a police officer in the U.S. than it is to be a soldier in the U.S. That's crazy. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| We have the same process when I was in high school. | ||
| The guys come around in their suits. | ||
| If you take the ASBAP tests on, we can show you the world. | ||
| You'll get a free education, all that shit. | ||
| You don't qualify for them. | ||
| But I can still get a badge and a gun and people are going to respect me. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of that. | ||
| There's a lot of that shit going on. | ||
| That's real. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| No ifs, ands, or buts about it. | ||
| And it's just a poor management. | ||
| It's a poor management decision to run the police departments that way. | ||
| To have them that underfunded. | ||
| To have them that poorly represented. | ||
| Because I know there's good cops out there. | ||
| I've met them. | ||
| I know good guys that are cops. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| For sure, me too. | ||
| I've trained cops. | ||
| I've trained good cops, and I'm like, oh, that seems like a good guy. | ||
| And then I've seen him at other cops, and I'm like, that dude is not all there. | ||
| That dude's not all there. | ||
| And everybody in the fucking precinct knows, oh, that's Dewey. | ||
| Don't worry about Dewey. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| Yeah, just don't get pulled over by him. | ||
| Just don't get pulled over by him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're in a crisis in this country in many ways. | ||
| And Jocko was talking about this, that it's a leadership crisis. | ||
| It's all from the top down. | ||
| And it's a leadership when it comes to the president, leadership crisis, governors, mayors, sheriffs, and then the cops themselves. | ||
| It's a bunch of people that really don't have the character to be doing that. | ||
| Look, it's a... | ||
| I wouldn't wish it on anybody, man. | ||
| That's a tough fucking... | ||
| All those gigs we just... | ||
| Being a governor. | ||
| Fucking insanely hard. | ||
| I couldn't imagine being responsible for the economy of a whole state. | ||
| Especially in California. | ||
| That's why our goofy governor keeps calling it a nation state. | ||
| It might as well be a fucking nation. | ||
| There's 40 million people in this motherfucker. | ||
| That's a lot of people, man. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I don't want that job. | ||
| But if you're going to have that job, you better be fucking really good, man. | ||
| You better be really good. | ||
| I think that we need four-year terms for everybody of major powers like this so that we don't end up with these career politicians. | ||
| This just stays the same. | ||
| And you build your relationships and this shit just stays the same. | ||
| There's no accountability. | ||
| There's no fresh blood coming in. | ||
| Maybe that's a good key for cops to have a four-year term and then you're up for review. | ||
| Or the police chief. | ||
| You know how the police... | ||
| I can only imagine it. | ||
| That's why I like... | ||
| Like Lethal Weapon or whatever. | ||
| Martin and Riggs walk in or whatever. | ||
| And he's like, oh, you know, the commissioner. | ||
| Commissioner Gordon's breathing down my neck. | ||
| You've got to stop choking all these guys out. | ||
| And they're like, you know, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| But, you know, the commissioner's down my back. | ||
| He's not saying, hey, motherfucker, you're fired. | ||
| I'm going to press charges on your fucking ass. | ||
| This is not how we do things. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But then there's always the romantic crazy cop. | ||
| Like Riggs in Lethal Weapon was the romantic crazy cop. | ||
| It was kind of cool. | ||
| He's a little unhinged, but he gets the job done. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But those guys are never abusive in those movies, the unhinged guys. | ||
| They're heroes. | ||
| Yeah, they're always heroes and cool with people, but they just, you know, eat cold pizza in the morning in a blender and they fucking smoke cigarettes and then they choke people. | ||
| So my son, Jackson, was scared of the police before I was ever into any of it. | ||
| When I noticed it, I was aware of it, I took a step back and looked at myself. | ||
| He's getting this from me and he wasn't. | ||
| He was like three or four years old. | ||
| I remember one day we pulled into a bank and I parked between two cop cars. | ||
| My older son gets out the car, and I'm like, where's Jax? | ||
| And he's still in the back, and he's all tense in the backseat. | ||
| I'm like, what's wrong with you? | ||
| And he's like, he wouldn't say anything. | ||
| My older son's like, oh, he's scared of the cops. | ||
| I'm like, why? | ||
| Because all he sees is cops come when you're in trouble. | ||
| Cops take you to jail. | ||
| Cops do bad things. | ||
| There's no, like... | ||
| When I was a kid in Bellbrook, Ohio, where I grew up, we had a cat, and it used to always go up in the tree. | ||
| And my mom would call the police in the fire department any time the cat went in the fucking tree. | ||
| That's old school Ohio shit. | ||
| Right? | ||
| We'd try. | ||
| You know, I couldn't climb a tree that high. | ||
| You know, get down, you're gonna fall. | ||
| And then she'd call the fucking police in the fire department. | ||
| And they'd come, and they'd be cool. | ||
| And that fucking cop would give us cracker jacks. | ||
| And when a cop drove by, he waved at you. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's small town life. | ||
| Well, that was like how shit should be. | ||
| Now, it's like if I'm at fucking Quiznos and I'm like, oh man, excuse me, officer, what time is it? | ||
| I'm on my fucking lunch break. | ||
| They're just fucking dickheads all the time. | ||
| They pull you over. | ||
| What are you doing speeding in my town? | ||
| You know, it's just like this overwhelming... | ||
| Fuck you all the time. | ||
| I got cop stories. | ||
| I got cop stories. | ||
| I know you do. | ||
| I got a few cop stories. | ||
| There's a lot of cop stories to have, good and bad, but you only hear the bad ones. | ||
| There's a lot of interactions every day that people have with cops that are positive. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| But it's just exactly like the Chris Rock joke. | ||
| You really can't have bad apples when it's that job. | ||
| No. | ||
| Just like you can't have bad fire department people. | ||
| You can't have bad pilots. | ||
| You can't have... | ||
| It's just a job you gotta do right. | ||
| And then it's like for how long? | ||
| That's why lately I've been posting videos from like three years ago, four years ago. | ||
| Same type of shit. | ||
| It's still going like this is an old video and nothing's changed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rodney King wasn't that long ago. | ||
| There was another one that just came out. | ||
| This guy's handcuffed on his back and they're beating him with tons telling him to put his legs down while they're beating the shit out of him. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen that one. | ||
| And then the guy that got pulled over or fell asleep in a Wendy's parking lot. | ||
| Cop pulls him over. | ||
| He's like, hey, what are you doing? | ||
| The guy's like, look, man, I was fighting with my wife. | ||
| Fucking had... | ||
| Have you been drinking? | ||
| Yes, sir, I've been drinking. | ||
| He hadn't been driving that they could prove yet. | ||
| So they're like, well, can you take his breathalyzer? | ||
| He's like, well, you know I've already been drinking. | ||
| He's like, it's just part of my investigation. | ||
| It's no big deal. | ||
| The reality was they needed him to take the breathalyzer because then they could arrest him. | ||
| Because if they didn't see him actually drive, they couldn't do that. | ||
| So they trick him into doing that, then they arrest him. | ||
| When they arrest him, he's got his hands behind his back. | ||
| Maybe he's tussling or whatever. | ||
| Nobody wants to get arrested. | ||
| While they're teasing him in the back multiple times. | ||
| These idiots give up the taser, so he's running away with the taser, and they shoot him in the back. | ||
| Yeah, we were talking about that one. | ||
| Didn't he turn and point the taser at him, or is that what they said? | ||
| On the video, it looks like he's going to do whatever. | ||
| I can't keep up with the investigations of what day things are being found. | ||
| Maybe there was a shot left in it. | ||
| That's why there was a pop herd. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So there might have been a shot left in it. | ||
| People are saying that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why I don't know now. | ||
| But either way. | ||
| But if I tase you in the back four times, it doesn't give you the right to kill me. | ||
| But if I shoot or aim one in your general direction, it's ice this motherfucker. | ||
| And it wasn't like that guy was... | ||
| You had a conversation with him. | ||
| He just said he would go home. | ||
| His daughters were at his sister's house. | ||
| They'd all just leave the car here and go. | ||
| But they already had the agenda of what they wanted to do. | ||
| Why shouldn't that guy just go home? | ||
| Mark Lamont Hill had a really important point. | ||
| He said, why is that a case even for the police? | ||
| There should be something else, like some other division that just handles nonviolent people that are just in need of assistance. | ||
| If you got a guy who's drunk in a parking lot, there should just be some people that if you want to cite him and give him some sort of a fine or suspend his license for 30 days or something like that, something non-violent, but that guy should just get a ride home. | ||
| And if he says that he drove there, well, hey, man, you can't drive drunk. | ||
| You're in trouble for that. | ||
| But to try to tase him and all that other shit, there's no need for that. | ||
| See, I'm torn on that. | ||
| Yes, you're absolutely right. | ||
| Somebody should be able to see that. | ||
| I just don't think that it's out of the realm of possibilities that the police could be called to that scene and not end up shooting the guy. | ||
| They should have the same wherewithal that you and I are having in this conversation to be like, oh, dude, what are you doing? | ||
| Your wife's probably pissed your dumb drunk right now. | ||
| And that's one of the ones where the Atlanta Police Department is all walking off in solidarity because the guy was charged with felony murder. | ||
| And so they all quit. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of them are just not responding to things. | ||
| They basically don't feel like they're supported, and they want to let people know, like, this is what we do, this is how hard this job is, so this is what it's like when cops don't respond. | ||
| That is the most idiotic baby little child shit to do. | ||
| I can't even get behind that at all. | ||
| I'm taking my ball and I'm going home then. | ||
| If you don't want me here, then I'm leaving. | ||
| I don't even know... | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's not going to change the charges. | ||
| If they charged him with felony murder, they're not going to uncharge him with felony murder because the cops aren't responding. | ||
| Once it's... | ||
| It just shows how much they don't care about their community. | ||
| They don't care about their oath. | ||
| They don't care about protecting and serving. | ||
| They care about staying together. | ||
| That's what we were saying earlier. | ||
| That's the oath, right? | ||
| That's the code of silence. | ||
| You have to protect those other people because the shit could go down. | ||
| You need them to have your back. | ||
| I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying that is how it works in the police department. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| Did you ever see the documentary, The 7-5? | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| You should see it. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| It's The 7-5? | ||
| The 7-5. | ||
| It is all about this guy, Mike Dowd, who's out now. | ||
| Who became a corrupt police officer. | ||
| Just joined the force because he wanted to be a cop. | ||
| And then right away was introduced to the fact that this whole fucking thing is bad. | ||
| It's all corrupt. | ||
| They're all bad cops. | ||
| They're all doing fucked up shit. | ||
| I'm pretty sure they pushed a guy out of a window like one of the first days that he got there. | ||
| Someone got killed. | ||
| And they would just say, this is how it works. | ||
| And then cut to many years later, he's robbing drug dealers and selling drugs and organizing hits on people. | ||
| It's a crazy fucking movie and it's from his words and his former partner's words and it just details how everything went completely sideways. | ||
| And it just shows you, like, imagine if you were one of those guys and that's your job. | ||
| You're a fucking cop. | ||
| And you're in this precinct with all these other corrupt cops. | ||
| And you're like, well, this is what we do? | ||
| So this is what we do. | ||
| We're just corrupt. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| It's like the mob mentality with the protests, right? | ||
| You get a good protest, or people protesting a real thing, people that are having a peaceful march doing that stuff, and then you compound, they've been locked in their house for two months, everybody's broke, they're losing their businesses, shit's getting fucking weird, they're just going crazy. | ||
| But they're in the protest. | ||
| Now you have some asshole come up with a hammer and break a bunch of windows and start creating the drama. | ||
| It causes a mob mentality, right? | ||
| It's like, people are smart, but mobs are stupid, right? | ||
| A person is smart, people are stupid. | ||
| That same thing happened to the cops, right? | ||
| You're on a team, one guy starts doing shit like, bro, just shoot him in the face with a beanbag. | ||
| Nobody will see it. | ||
| Oh, you fucking got him. | ||
| Pass me the gun. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And they're all doing the same shit. | ||
| There's definitely a lot of that. | ||
| And then they're protecting themselves. | ||
| Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that. | ||
| Also, there was some crazy shit where it was pretty much proven that some cops were the ones who were breaking windows in Minneapolis. | ||
| Oh yeah, there was one in New York where they were sawing the roll-up door open on a jewelry store. | ||
| A cop was doing it? | ||
| Yeah, I'll find a video for you. | ||
| Oh, please find that video. | ||
| There's cops with a miter saw or whatever, cutting the roll-up door on the jewelry shop. | ||
| I think I saw that one. | ||
| It was, if I remember, it might be incorrect. | ||
| There was people, they got a call and there was people trapped in there and they had to get them out. | ||
| They might have been robbing it or something like that. | ||
| They get trapped in there robbing it? | ||
| Yeah, I may be mistaken on that one, but I think I saw it. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| Jamie with the fact check. | ||
| That seems like a weird way to save people. | ||
| Saw the fucking security door open. | ||
| Because they broke it open in a bad way and snuck in. | ||
| And they had to get with all their equipment and shit. | ||
| So they used the metal saw thing. | ||
| Hello 911? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| We were robbing this jewelry store. | ||
| That seems like the type of thing that you would say when you were caught on camera. | ||
| Robbing the jewelry store. | ||
| Well, actually, there was somebody inside. | ||
| I was trying to get them out. | ||
| It was just a weird thing. | ||
| It happens sometimes. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, how many cops robbed things during all the melee? | ||
| Had to be a lot, right? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| They had to. | ||
| The one that I saw was a Target in Minneapolis where this cop that actually got recognized and he got identified. | ||
| And this cop was smashing windows. | ||
| And these kids were like, hey man, are you a fucking cop? | ||
| And he's like, fuck off, I'll kick your ass. | ||
| And he's a big guy, too. | ||
| Oh, that was a guy in Minneapolis with the thing? | ||
| Yeah, he had a full face shield on and everything. | ||
| And they were like, this guy's wearing police-issue shoes, police-issue clothes. | ||
| So let's look at that. | ||
| Why would they do that? | ||
| Why would a cop do that? | ||
| Because the cop wanted to break shit? | ||
| Or is there a plan to get fucking drama started in a certain city and then that police station just happens to burn down and they give it up too? | ||
| Well, I think in a lot of those situations... | ||
| How many records got destroyed when they burned down that police station? | ||
| Ooh, that's a good point. | ||
| Ooh, look at Joe Schilling's thinking on multiple levels. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I think what happens with a lot of this, you know, it's called an agent provocateur, right? | ||
| And what they've used those people for before is to stop a peaceful protest. | ||
| And the way they stop a peaceful protest, they turn it violent. | ||
| And then they have the authorization to go in and break up the protest and arrest people. | ||
| And that has been done. | ||
| That absolutely has been done. | ||
| It was done with the World Trade Organization protests in the early 2000s. | ||
| They did that in Seattle. | ||
| That shit has been done. | ||
| They do. | ||
| It might be late 90s. | ||
| But they fucking do that. | ||
| That is a government tactic. | ||
| And say you have a good protest and it has a good meaning and a good thing and that's bad for you if you're the government. | ||
| You're trying to be like, I don't really like this shit. | ||
| What do we do here? | ||
| Let's get some fucking assholes to go in there and start some shit. | ||
| We haven't let these people leave their house in two months. | ||
| They're going to do some dumb shit, right? | ||
| So we'll just start bashing up shit. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Let's plant some fucking bricks. | ||
| Maybe we put some bricks on the street where all these people are going to come. | ||
| They're going to fuck all this shit up. | ||
| Yeah, the brick thing was weird. | ||
| You know, in some circumstances, the bricks actually were there because of construction. | ||
| That's been proven. | ||
| There was one that was a synagogue in North Hollywood, and there was these bricks set up right in front of the synagogue. | ||
| We're like, this is fucked up. | ||
| Like, what is this about? | ||
| Turned out even worse. | ||
| The bricks had actually been there for a long time and they were there to keep people from driving into the synagogue. | ||
| They were to stop a car from smashing through the front windows and killing people. | ||
| So they were worried after like the Pittsburgh mass shooting and a couple other mass shootings. | ||
| They were worried about their synagogue so they set up these bricks to keep some fucking psycho from driving a car through the building. | ||
| Which is, I mean, almost worse. | ||
| I'd almost rather them... | ||
| I mean, we have that everywhere, though, right? | ||
| We have that in, like, Sunset Boulevard or wherever. | ||
| There'll be, like, concrete posts. | ||
| Like, that's a normal thing, I think. | ||
| I guess, but this is weird. | ||
| I saw them on their bricks. | ||
| Because it was, like, set up by these folks that ran the synagogue. | ||
| Because the city didn't even protect it if they had to do it themselves. | ||
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| I mean, I think the city probably approved it. | ||
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Right. | |
| But it's a weird... | ||
| See if you can find... | ||
| I saw the picture. | ||
| They're in, like, cages, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's a good thing you can buy at Home Depot, I guess. | ||
| Oh, you can? | ||
| For that reason? | ||
| In case you run a synagogue that's being targeted by white supremacists. | ||
| Maybe the city's not got your back. | ||
| You're not worried about the cops showing up? | ||
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We're going to put these rock piles in front of your shit. | |
| Goddamn, man. | ||
| It's just this whole COVID and then the George Floyd protests and then the riots and the looting and everything really highlights how fragile our civilization is. | ||
| Really shows everybody. | ||
| And how easily we are controlled through the media. | ||
| Easily we're controlled. | ||
| I try not to watch it anymore because you're just getting brainwashed. | ||
| And once you realize you're just being brainwashed, they just control how you feel about everything. | ||
| They control, you hate this guy, change the other channel. | ||
| No, that guy's a good guy. | ||
| This guy's, fuck this guy. | ||
| It's just all misinformation. | ||
| The Who and Fauci, one day, don't do masks. | ||
| You don't need masks. | ||
| The next day you need masks. | ||
| Como needs 50,000 people. | ||
| Ventilators. | ||
| And it puts them all in the nursing homes and all the nurse people die. | ||
| But let's not talk about that. | ||
| Yeah, that's the Cuomo nursing home thing is a giant scandal, man. | ||
| He let those people go back to the nursing homes. | ||
| They infected and killed thousands of people because of that. | ||
| And so his numbers go straight up, you know? | ||
| And then, like, why are we incentivizing? | ||
| We're even going to the... | ||
| I mean, why are we incentivizing hospitals to say that there were COVID deaths? | ||
| What is the purpose of that? | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| I think the idea was because this was a new disease and they required more financially, it's more difficult to treat those people, that they allocated more money towards people that had COVID. But when you do that, you do incentivize people to mark deaths as COVID. Yeah, there's people that get shot and they were like, well, he had COVID when he died. | ||
| But did they test him for COVID? Well, it doesn't matter. | ||
| I just wrote it on there. | ||
| And then the numbers come out. | ||
| Apparently, there have also been a bunch of people that died and weren't COVID tested that they do believe died because of complications for COVID, too. | ||
| So the idea is that it could even possibly balance it out. | ||
| They don't know. | ||
| But there are a lot of people that have... | ||
| Here's a deceptive one that I've read. | ||
| It was really fucked up. | ||
| They were talking about this kid who was... | ||
| I think he was 17. He died from COVID. And they said he was... | ||
| They said he was healthy. | ||
| No other health issues, they said. | ||
| But then you read the article deeper, it turns out he had diabetes. | ||
| He had type 1 diabetes and he was 400 pounds. | ||
| And it's like, wait a minute. | ||
| That's not no issues. | ||
| These articles are full of shit. | ||
| And they write those articles just so that you click on them because they get the fucking ad revenue from clicks. | ||
| So they're incentivized to trick you into being scared. | ||
| You're like, oh my god, a 17-year-old died? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| My 17-year-old can die. | ||
| Holy fuck! | ||
| And then you click on it, and if you don't read, you know, six, seven paragraphs into the article, you don't find out that this was a 400-pound diabetic kid that, you know... | ||
| Could have died from the flu three months earlier, and it would have been the same shit. | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So the numbers are fudged. | ||
| So I don't want to believe your numbers. | ||
| Don't come to me with more scare tactics about, like, the numbers are spiking. | ||
| Well, you already said that 50% of the positives are false positives. | ||
| Well, at least finally they're saying, when they say that the numbers are spiking, I haven't heard that 50% are false positives. | ||
| I haven't heard that. | ||
| I had a video that was that chick with Fauci, the other one. | ||
| She was saying 50%? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know how old the video was, but she said that our testing, we're coming up, and if you have 1% of whatever and we test it, then about half of the positives are false positives. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| And then don't wear a mask, and you have to wear a mask. | ||
| And they said the whole reason we have to flatten the curve is because it can live on anything for up to like nine days, and even an asymptomatic person can still transmit it. | ||
| Then it comes out, they say the exact opposite. | ||
| Yeah, now they're saying asymptomatic people very, very rarely transmit it. | ||
| I don't choose to believe that, Joe. | ||
| I'm going to believe what they told me the first time. | ||
| There's a lot of people that do say that. | ||
| Not the new facts that they have now. | ||
| So we're still going to wear masks all the time. | ||
| Yeah, people get mad at you if you suggest differently. | ||
| There's a lot of people that like being scared, too. | ||
| And they're like, fuck you! | ||
| Wear your goddamn mask! | ||
| We need to protect people! | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Well, if there's no police, who's going to protect you and you? | ||
| Who's going to protect your family? | ||
| Me? | ||
| Meanwhile, these people weren't freaking out when you've seen these mass protests. | ||
| And the spikes, guess what, happened right after the protests. | ||
| And at least they're saying that now. | ||
| At least they're saying, they're being forced into saying, it's probably connected to the protests. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| It's just one more way to get people to scare them to stop revolting. | ||
| Let's get them to chill out. | ||
| Now the numbers are spiking, guys. | ||
| Do you think it's that calculated? | ||
| That that's what they're doing? | ||
| I think there's a lot of calculated shit going on. | ||
| There's too many weird things going on. | ||
| Who's calculating it, though? | ||
| I think that it's Dr. Evil. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
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He's alive. | |
| I think that they're in their thing. | ||
| Next, we're going to launch the sharks with laser beams on their head. | ||
| What happened to murder hornets? | ||
| They came and went real quick. | ||
| I was really worried about them. | ||
| Aliens, bro. | ||
| I'm putting it out there. | ||
| Aliens will come. | ||
| Aliens are coming before the election. | ||
| The alien thing is interesting because there's quite a few real legitimate studies, including black ops studies, that are going on right now on aliens. | ||
| Particularly after the David Fravor Incident, which was an Air Force incident that was off the coast of San Diego. | ||
| That was all documented in terms of the speed of the aircraft, the fact that they were tracking it, the fact that it blocked their tracking systems. | ||
| So it was an active object blocking their tracking systems. | ||
| And it also went from something like right above the surface of the water to 60,000 feet in a matter of a second. | ||
| Whatever the fuck that thing is, it violates all laws of propulsion. | ||
| And all those Air Force guys were saying, yeah, we've been following these things. | ||
| They've been down here for the last few weeks. | ||
| Every now and then we'll see one. | ||
| And they'll hover above the water and dunk down into the water. | ||
| They don't know what the fuck they were. | ||
| And, you know, this David Fravor guy who's like a rock-solid, buttoned-down military man. | ||
| He is not a bullshit artist. | ||
| He's not a guy who needs a lot of attention. | ||
| He came on the podcast and relayed his experiences with this thing. | ||
| There's not just one of them and they behave very similarly. | ||
| They've had them on the East Coast. | ||
| I'm doing a terrible job of giving all the facts about how they operate and how they move, but they defy all the known laws of propulsion. | ||
| They have no idea what they are. | ||
| They have no idea where they're coming from. | ||
| They don't know what they're doing. | ||
| But these things behave in some really almost supernatural way in terms of like what we know about physics. | ||
| And this is like unclassified now or this is recent? | ||
| Well, the government's come out and said, I mean, they've openly said there's a real issue. | ||
| Trump says he's heard very interesting things about Roswell, the site of an alleged UFO event. | ||
| The president was asked by his... | ||
| Yeah, that was nonsense though. | ||
| Did you see that interview? | ||
| First of all, the whole interview was weird. | ||
| Like Donald Trump Jr. is interviewing Donald Trump and he's not even doing it like he's his dad. | ||
| If I was sitting there with my dad, I'd be like, alright, dude, tell me what's up. | ||
| What's going on with the aliens, pops? | ||
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What do you got back there, dude? | |
| Also, I would ask that question four fucking years ago, day one. | ||
| I'd be like, come on, dude. | ||
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Aliens. | |
| As soon as you walked me in, let's talk aliens. | ||
| I would run for president just to find out. | ||
| I think you should run for president, Joe. | ||
| You should absolutely run for president. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| I get canceled for all Joey Diaz conversations. | ||
| You could do like the presidential addresses and just do a stand-up the whole time, every time. | ||
| It would have to be that. | ||
| It would have to be some seriousness and some... | ||
| Life is so preposterous. | ||
| And it's more preposterous now than it's ever been before. | ||
| And meanwhile, there's no stand-up. | ||
| The only person doing stand-up right now has been... | ||
| There's a few guys that just started doing shows. | ||
| I'm actually in Houston this weekend for the first time in three months. | ||
| I haven't done any stand-up. | ||
| Chappelle's doing regular shows in Ohio. | ||
| He's got an outside wedding pavilion, and he's got it set up where everybody's socially distanced. | ||
| They all wear masks in the crowd. | ||
| They have Chappelle masks. | ||
| So they'll have the C on their mask. | ||
| They're in the crowd. | ||
| And my buddy Donnell did it, and he said he loves it. | ||
| And Dave's like, listen, man, I've got to do something. | ||
| I've got to figure this out. | ||
| It's all been approved by the governor. | ||
| Everybody's, you know, distanced six feet apart. | ||
| They all maintain social distancing during the show. | ||
| They wear masks during the show. | ||
| How long are we going to keep doing this? | ||
| Texas governor urges people to stay home as states report surges of new COVID-19 cases. | ||
| Yeah, you want to see the photo of the Austin protest? | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You know, Austin, which is the most progressive city in Texas, had this insane protest, which, listen, I think is great. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I think it's great that people want to show solidarity, that people want to get out there and let everybody know that they're They're not down with police brutality and that they're down with racial equality and that you got all these thousands and thousands of people together to have the same positive message. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| However, that COVID doesn't give a fuck about racial equality or social justice. | ||
| If you're not healthy, it's gonna get you. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| And the cases spike. | ||
| But the other thing about Texas is a giant percentage of it, I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 50%, is actually in prisons. | ||
| So when they're talking about statewide issues. | ||
| Do you have an image? | ||
| Because I can get an image for you. | ||
| I got a good one for you. | ||
| Oh, that's a good one. | ||
| Yeah, that'll cause a problem. | ||
| Those fucking people! | ||
| But one thing they have found out, if you guys are gonna protest, protest during the day. | ||
| And this is why. | ||
| There's been a new study that came out that said that COVID-19 dies almost instantly in contact with sunlight. | ||
| Didn't Trump say that like two months ago and everyone said he was crazy? | ||
| No, he was saying like put light in the body. | ||
| No, he said 80 degrees. | ||
| He said when the summer comes, the heat kills it. | ||
| Yes, but it's not the heat. | ||
| It's actually light. | ||
| So the nighttime is just as dangerous in the summer as it is during the day. | ||
| It's not heat. | ||
| It's not a temperature issue. | ||
| I'm sure some temperature kills it. | ||
| Joe, this thing is not real, bro. | ||
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No! | |
| This is not real, bro. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Should we select a joint? | ||
| It is a fucking flu. | ||
| Yeah, please. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
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Let's take one of those. | |
| It's not real. | ||
| You don't think it's real? | ||
| I think that the flu is real. | ||
| I think that people get sick from the flu every year and die. | ||
| I think that it's a bad thing. | ||
| I don't think that all of this nonsense is going on and they keep perpetuating it and keep perpetuating it. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I'm just not buying it anymore. | ||
| You change your views. | ||
| You change your opinions. | ||
| It's like if you were the writer of a TV show, say Friends. | ||
| Your job would be to write a 30 minute episode that was funny and intriguing and dramatic and fucking scary or whatever the fuck. | ||
| The media just writes an episode and then the next day they write a new episode and write a new episode and change their shit. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| Such bullshit. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| I'm going to give you a different perspective. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is the different perspective. | ||
| The different perspective is legit biologists have analyzed the actual virus itself, and they find all sorts of problems with this virus. | ||
| I had Brett Weinstein on the podcast the other day. | ||
| He's a professor, a legit biologist, and he was discussing... | ||
| All of the indicators in the virus that seem to point to the fact that this has probably been leaked from a lab. | ||
| And he explained it in terms of the way viruses evolve. | ||
| I'm going to do a terrible job of paraphrasing it because I'm a moron and he's brilliant. | ||
| But in the long run, what he's basically saying is, this is a very legit virus. | ||
| It's very complicated because of the fact that it's been fucked with. | ||
| Because this is not a virus like... | ||
| You know, like a regular cold or like anything else that we've encountered before. | ||
| This is something that's really complicated and may have evolved because it came from a lab. | ||
| His perspective is it may have evolved to transmit better indoors. | ||
| And it's very vulnerable to UV light, which also might be part of it being from a lab and not something that existed in the wild that actually just jumped from a bat to a pangolin to a person or what have you. | ||
| So legit scientists and biologists who are not a part of the narrative, they're not working for any government agency, they're not a part of the news media that's trying to transmit propaganda, They are concerned with it, and they're concerned with it for very specific scientific reasons. | ||
| Now, me as a person who doesn't know what the fuck any of that stuff I just said means, really, I just repeat it. | ||
| It sounds like I'm smart, but the smart people actually are worried about it for very specific reasons that it could explain to you. | ||
| Now it's not vulnerable. | ||
| For a lot of people, they're not going to be vulnerable. | ||
| Like pro athletes. | ||
| We were talking about those NBA players that get it. | ||
| Listen, those are top of the food chain stud athletes. | ||
| They shake it off. | ||
| They're not experiencing any symptoms, you know, over and over and over again. | ||
| There's a lot of people that get it. | ||
| Idris Elba shook it off. | ||
| There's a lot of people that get it. | ||
| Shake it off. | ||
| They barely get it. | ||
| They barely even know they have it. | ||
| But they're really robust, healthy people. | ||
| The concern is people that aren't. | ||
| Old people. | ||
| People that are vulnerable. | ||
| When they get it, man, they get it bad. | ||
| And I was reading an article today about a woman who's been sick with COVID for 100 days now. | ||
| And she still has days. | ||
| So she has like these horrible flu-like symptoms. | ||
| And she gets real wheezy. | ||
| But I think she has multiple sclerosis. | ||
| And she's got some other underlying health conditions. | ||
| So those people have to really be worried about this. | ||
| Because it's not predictable. | ||
| And they don't know how to treat it. | ||
| Totally, especially in the beginning Turned out when they put people on ventilators my buddy Michael Yo got it and he got it early on and his doctor told him if I put you on a ventilator You're probably gonna die because your body's gonna stop breathing for itself. | ||
| It's gonna let the ventilator do all the work the ventilator like 90% of people put on ventilators 80 80% for anything ever die Is that true? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
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Sounds good. | |
| Sounds terrifying. | ||
| So when Como's like, we need 40,000 ventilators, because who are you saving when 80% of those people are going to die? | ||
| The thing is, though, I think the ventilator, one way you could look at it, the ventilator is such a last-ditch effort that by the time you get to the... | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Budweiser. | ||
| Oh, Budweiser. | ||
| Ice cold, delicious. | ||
| Bud-heavy for you, my friend? | ||
| What a good man. | ||
| He brings his own beer. | ||
| You fucking stud. | ||
| I come with all kinds of gifts. | ||
| Oh, I brought you some Ignite stuff, too. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| Shout out to Dan Bilzerian. | ||
| Tell me he's writing a book. | ||
| I think he did write his book. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| This is dog stuff, right? | ||
| Yeah, that one's for Marshall. | ||
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Oh, yay! | |
| He'll love it. | ||
| My dog's been using it, too. | ||
| It's really good stuff. | ||
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Okay, cool. | |
| You know, Dan, everything's the best. | ||
| Yeah, no, I'm sure. | ||
| It's funny how he's jumped balls deep into weed and CBD. Oh, right. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Dog CBD. It even says it on there. | ||
| I fucked up with CBDMD and I took some of their dog CBD. It was delicious peanut butter flavor. | ||
| I think it's fine, though. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's just CBD. But they make it flavored for dogs. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| More shit? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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Damn, Gulzerian, you generous fellow. | |
| Alright, okay, cool. | ||
| CBD and t-shirts and shit. | ||
| What is the bull for? | ||
| What is all that? | ||
| What is the ram's head? | ||
| I think it's a goat head. | ||
| It seems satanic. | ||
| I asked him once about it and I can't remember what the answer was, but I think it's always been like his thing. | ||
| That's like Satan, right? | ||
| What is the one, the devil that has the goat head? | ||
| Is it Beelzebub? | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| It sounds like that would be correct. | ||
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Alright. | |
| Thank you, Dan. | ||
| Thank you, Satan. | ||
| No? | ||
| Who is it? | ||
| Which one? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You gotta be careful. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You get people so high that they get super paranoid and they look down at that goat head. | ||
| Baphomet. | ||
| Oh, Baphomet. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I've seen him on things before. | ||
| That's like something Duncan would know a lot about. | ||
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That's right. | |
| I was trying to think of Duncan and think of words he said a lot. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Come on, man. | ||
| Hey, Dan, why is that guy on the cover of your fucking box? | ||
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Why is that goat dude with eagle wings? | |
| That guy's creepy as fuck with his pentagram on his head. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| Houston ICU capacity could soon be exceeded as COVID-19 hospitalizations worsen. | ||
| And then all the videos come out and it's like people going to the hospitals and there's no lines that they're trying to make it out to be. | ||
| There's a lot of fuckery going on with this misinformation. | ||
| There's a little bit of that going on. | ||
| I have a hard time just believing the newest of the new. | ||
| But there's also real shit going on. | ||
| Okay, Dr. Peter Hotez. | ||
| He's been on the podcast before. | ||
| National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. | ||
| He's a brilliant guy. | ||
| It says the city of Houston, which is known for its medical schools, has a large concentration of beds and research hospitals and whatnot, and they're very close to running out of all of their ICU beds. | ||
| He said he called on the state to reimpose more aggressive social distancing restrictions. | ||
| See, he's not a foolish person. | ||
| If he's saying this, he's a legit scientist and a doctor and he knows a tremendous amount about diseases. | ||
| I met him many, many years ago. | ||
| He kind of freaked me out because we were doing this. | ||
| I interviewed him for this sci-fi thing and he was telling me that people that live in tropical climates all have parasites. | ||
| I'm like, all of them? | ||
| He goes, all of them. | ||
| Everybody's got something he's like that's you're you're living in this like soup of moisture and heat And it's just the perfect breeding ground for all these diseases and a lot of these third-world countries poor folks that live in these tropical climates He's like they all have it and when he was saying that I was like well that course it makes sense. | ||
| There's no Antibiotics no med it's probably just a normal part of life to have all these different parasites. | ||
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I Like, people used to just drink... | |
| And their immune system gets better off of it, or they just live with it? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Maybe they just live with it. | ||
| It might be both. | ||
| You know, some people's immune systems might be stronger. | ||
| But, like, creek water. | ||
| Like, that's what people drank, man. | ||
| They just drank creek water, and you would get beaver fever. | ||
| You'd get giardia. | ||
| It was a normal thing. | ||
| We talk about Mexico, right? | ||
| People always say, don't drink the water. | ||
| Don't drink the water. | ||
| Well, they're fucking drinking the water. | ||
| They drink the water all the time, right. | ||
| But their system is just more tolerant of it. | ||
| Or they're just used to shit in their pants all the time. | ||
| Maybe a little bit of that. | ||
| Maybe a little bit of that. | ||
| But I imagine beaver fever's got a... | ||
| Jardia's probably killing people. | ||
| I mean, you're drinking horrible bacteria. | ||
| I know people have died from E. coli. | ||
| I wonder if they died from Jardia. | ||
| Does Jardia kill you? | ||
| Because that's a normal thing you get if you drink out of a creek. | ||
| So your guy that you were talking about, the really smart guy... | ||
| Peter Hotez? | ||
| Peter Hotez. | ||
| He says it was made in a lab then. | ||
| Okay, no, that's Brett Weinstein. | ||
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Brett Weinstein. | |
| Brett Weinstein, yeah, he's the biologist. | ||
| He said... | ||
| He does not talk like that. | ||
| He's not saying, like, it was made in a lab. | ||
| He's like, all indications would point to. | ||
| He's one of those guys. | ||
| But he's never like, so therefore it does. | ||
| So that would support the Wuhan lab that's not far from the Wuhan... | ||
| Rarely does Jardia infection cause death, but each year 4,600 persons with Jardiasis are estimated to be hospitalized in the United States. | ||
| Hospitalization usually primarily children under 5 and dehydration are the most frequent co-diagnosis. | ||
| Yeah, probably dehydrated and then you drank that shitty water. | ||
| Like the fact that dehydration is like one of the coinciding factors. | ||
| Or that dirty water gets you so sick that you piss and shit all of the water out of you. | ||
| It's like babies get dehydrated when they're sick, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's probably a better perspective. | ||
| That's what Pedialyte's for, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you take any electrolytes? | ||
| Like when you're training? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Dude, I just started over the last year. | ||
| I started taking one of my sponsors. | ||
| They sent me this liquid IV stuff. | ||
| Electrolytes make a big fucking difference. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It makes a big difference in how quickly you hydrate. | ||
| It makes a big difference in stopping cramps. | ||
| It stops all the cramps. | ||
| I heard of being dehydrated. | ||
| Any level of dehydration reduces athletic output by like 20%. | ||
| Which is one of the things I've been fucking sounding the alarm on forever. | ||
| We've got to stop weight cutting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Guys, I want people to fight healthy. | ||
| And I want them to fight for as long as they can. | ||
| Look, DC had kidney failure before. | ||
| And that's why he didn't get into the Olympics at one point. | ||
| Kidney failure. | ||
| Daniel Cormier. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| You know, he's had real problems from cutting weight, man. | ||
| It's fucking terrible for you. | ||
| That's why he fights so good at heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, when he's at heavyweight, he doesn't have to deal with any of that bullshit. | ||
| He can just eat and train and just recover. | ||
| When you're dehydrating yourself to that extent, to the extent that some guy, like Paulo Costa, that motherfucker. | ||
| Chael Sonnen had a video he had on YouTube. | ||
| I urge you to go to Chael Sonnen's YouTube and listen to him talk about it. | ||
| He was watching Paulo Costa. | ||
| He said, Paulo Costa is 230 plus pounds. | ||
| He cuts down to 185 for a fight. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| How low does he get before it's just water? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| You gotta see the video of him now. | ||
| He looks like a fucking heavyweight. | ||
| You know, because he recovered from surgery, right? | ||
| So he had, I believe he severed one of his biceps after his fight with Yoel. | ||
| So he had to get it reattached. | ||
| And this is a long recovery process. | ||
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So I guess he just got big. | |
| He's huge, man. | ||
| Well, it's like Anthony Johnson. | ||
| He was like fighting at, what, 70? | ||
| 170. I remember when he was on the local circuit out here and he was fighting at 70. And he'd keep going up, keep going up, keep going up. | ||
| Thing is, if he can make 70 for the first, you know, few minutes until his body starts giving out, holy shit! | ||
| That dude's terrifying. | ||
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Terrifying! | |
| What weight class he's in. | ||
| Terrifying as a light heavyweight. | ||
| Bro, icing people like Glover Teixeira with one punch as a light heavyweight. | ||
| And he just throws everything with zero fucks. | ||
| Zero fucks. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| He's like, you're going to take me down? | ||
| I'm fucking giving it. | ||
| Also, he's got an iron chin. | ||
| That's a big factor. | ||
| Anthony can take it. | ||
| You can't just put him out. | ||
| He hits so goddamn hard, man. | ||
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So hard. | |
| The fucking Minotaro punch, when he clipped him with that uppercut and flatlined him, he did the same thing to Glover. | ||
| He could take people out with one shot like nobody else in the sport. | ||
| And Glover was on like a 20 fight or something crazy. | ||
| Something crazy. | ||
| Wind chic, right? | ||
| Well, he lost to Jon Jones before that. | ||
| Jon Jones did some really clever shit in that fight, and he did something that I'm kind of amazed that people don't do more often. | ||
| John had an overhook on Glover's arm, and they were in the clinch, and John wrenched his fucking arm up in a way that I've never seen anybody do before. | ||
| Like mirror lock style? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like almost, you know, like a shoulder lock. | ||
| He got him in some kind of a shoulder lock. | ||
| And he did it from there, right? | ||
| So John has his arm, like he's got, Glover's got an arm, he like gave him the underhook. | ||
| And John's got his arm, and John, see here, it's right there. | ||
| And John fucking yanked his fucking shoulder. | ||
| And afterwards, Glover was telling me, he's like, oh, my shoulder's fucked. | ||
| He kept fighting the fight with it, but made a big impact on his ability to throw the right hand and grapple. | ||
| It was pretty... | ||
| They're a savage shoulder crank. | ||
| It was pretty savage, man. | ||
| It was pretty savage. | ||
| And what's interesting is, again, it's not... | ||
| Let's see it. | ||
| Let's watch it. | ||
| Very rare, man. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And did a couple times. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I mean, he fucked his shoulder there. | ||
| And we all have fucked up shoulders anyway. | ||
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Everybody does. | |
| It's just so bad. | ||
| Such a weird joint. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And for a guy like John, who first of all has massive leverage, this is a terrible one. | ||
| Cosmo. | ||
| Oh, Cosmo's a G. He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Shout out to Cosmo. | ||
| Such a bad motherfucker. | ||
| That's a dude who fought Sage Northcutt in 1FC. Nobody saw that coming? | ||
| I saw that lineup, but I was like, bro, this is totally what's going to happen. | ||
| They want that to happen. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| There's something about One FC, and I'm not saying the UFC wouldn't do the exact same thing, because they absolutely would, but they would love to have those guys and have them go over there and get their ass kicked. | ||
| The only one who's like proved everybody wrong, not even proved everybody wrong, but proven his greatness in that regard is DJ, because DJ's still dominating. | ||
| Mighty Mouse is still dominating. | ||
| Even over there, they're throwing their best killers at him, and he's still dominating. | ||
| But he's just so technical. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| If you want to teach somebody, like, you want to show somebody what, like, the best is... | ||
| Mighty Mouse. | ||
| Mighty Mouse. | ||
| No argument. | ||
| I say the GOAT is Jon Jones. | ||
| And I say the GOAT is Jon Jones because Jon Jones has beat everybody in his fucking division. | ||
| He's never lost to anybody. | ||
| Anybody. | ||
| You can't look at Jon Jones and the guys he's beat... | ||
| Look at Paulo Costa! | ||
| He's fucking huge! | ||
| He's fucking insane. | ||
| He's huge! | ||
| That is fucking insane. | ||
| Look how big he is! | ||
| He's so big! | ||
| So Chael Sonnen's video is excellent. | ||
| He says he's 230 plus pounds. | ||
| And look, not fat. | ||
| Gigantic. | ||
| So I think John's the GOAT. John's beat everybody. | ||
| He turned back every single challenge. | ||
| He's never lost once. | ||
| The only fight that he has an L was the disqualification of a fight he was totally dominant in. | ||
| If anything, that fight should be changed to a no contest. | ||
| And also, that rule should be amended. | ||
| It's a silly rule. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Super stupid rule. | ||
| It's one of the dumbest rules that we still keep. | ||
| That's, again, another thing where I say, like, we all know it's stupid, but they don't change it. | ||
| You know what's crazy, dude? | ||
| It's not even the best elbow. | ||
| Like, you know it's not the best elbow. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not the best elbow. | ||
| Like, you're an elbow expert. | ||
| You can speak to this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're stitching up Joe Schilling. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| It's not a great elbow. | ||
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It's okay. | |
| It's a fun elbow for Muay Thai. | ||
| Like, the downward elbow is, like, it's G-shit for sure. | ||
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It's G-shit. | |
| I love doing that. | ||
| For sure doing that. | ||
| If you could step on a dude's thigh and ombak him right in the fucking dump... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I've never been. | ||
| I'm not going to unblock anybody, but like a jump elbow. | ||
| Anytime I fought in Thailand, I always had at least one or two of those in the fight. | ||
| For sure, I'm going to throw that. | ||
| But that's not the most dangerous. | ||
| You've told the story a hundred times, but they thought because he could break blocks of ice that it's too dangerous. | ||
| That's literally what they said. | ||
| But meanwhile, that position doesn't even exist on the ground anyway. | ||
| If they understood leverage of the human body, the position of standing... | ||
| Oh, I just killed the light. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| We have this floating magnetic light that I just killed. | ||
| Did I pull the thing out of the... | ||
| The plug's over there. | ||
| What was I just saying? | ||
| Jon Jones is the goat. | ||
| Mighty Mouse is... | ||
| The elbows not the best. | ||
| So that's the only reason why Jon Jones ever lost is because he did the downward elbow. | ||
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Right. | |
| And most people thought that stoppage was ridiculous. | ||
| It's like, come on, man. | ||
| He just won the fight. | ||
| He won the fight. | ||
| You can't take it away from him for that. | ||
| And that had almost no impact on the fight. | ||
| He was going to fuck him up. | ||
| He was fucking him up before that. | ||
| He was going to fuck him up there. | ||
| They should take away that rule, first of all. | ||
| But two, you can't take that and turn it into a loss. | ||
| That's not a loss. | ||
| And it's always a gray area anyway when you do the elbow. | ||
| Every time I ask them about it, they're always like, you know, as long as there's an arc, you show me an arc. | ||
| If you watch that video, you could definitely show that there was some sort of arc on some angle and it's not that big a deal. | ||
| And Matt Hamill was getting his ass kicked anyway. | ||
| He was getting his ass kicked. | ||
| It was not changing the impact. | ||
| He was getting smashed by the goat. | ||
| That's really what it was. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So there's him, John Jones, this is the top of the food chain. | ||
| I think just by results, undeniable. | ||
| But then technical, it's Mighty Mouse. | ||
| Mighty Mouse is the most technically gifted guy I've ever seen inside the Octagon. | ||
| I don't mean gifted in any negative way, like he just didn't have to work for it. | ||
| I mean, talented. | ||
| I mean, just, but he puts it together. | ||
| Gifted in that, he had Matt Hume for an instructor, for sure. | ||
| That's a big factor, because that guy is a real, bonafide martial arts wizard. | ||
| And has been since I can remember. | ||
| He always was the guy that people were talking about. | ||
| He knows so much. | ||
| Rich Franklin, he was champ, was working with him too. | ||
| And he actually fought Pat Miletic way back in the day, dude. | ||
| Those guys were like legit pioneers, but Matt Hume's always been super, super technical. | ||
| So you got DJ, who's like Matt Hume, who's like one of the great minds of the sport, and then you got this star pupil, is like the most spectacular, talented, and technical fighter. | ||
| In terms of like just overall technique, I think Mighty Mouse is the most spectacular example of mixed martial arts I've ever seen. | ||
| And as a champion and as a marketable person, never gets in trouble. | ||
| And a super nice guy. | ||
| Super nice guy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| If Jon Jones had an asterisk, that would be his asterisk, right? | ||
| Jon Jones' asterisk is wild motherfucker. | ||
| That's what he is. | ||
| Also a wild motherfucker, so be careful. | ||
| He's wild. | ||
| He's going to make mistakes. | ||
| He's going to do wild, crazy shit. | ||
| He's also going to open up on Mauricio Shogun Hua in the youngest ever time a person wins a UFC title. | ||
| Opens up that fight with a flying knee. | ||
| On Mauricio Shogun Hua. | ||
| Who the fuck does that? | ||
| Like, you gotta be a wild motherfucker. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You got your tile fight, you're 22 years old, you're in there with a fucking legend from Pride, and you open with a flying knee and stagger him and wind up stopping him. | ||
| Whatever, right? | ||
| That's the GOAT. That's the GOAT. But then he got Anderson Silva in his prime like, ooh, Anderson Silva in his prime was terrifying. | ||
| When he front-kicked Vitor in the face, when Anderson Silva was in his prime, when he smashed Chael Sonnen in the rematch, even when he caught Chael Sonnen in a triangle off his back in a fight where he went into that fight with fucked-up ribs. | ||
| He probably shouldn't even have taken that fight and Chael just kept taking him down. | ||
| He couldn't stop the takedown and eventually got him in a triangle off his back. | ||
| And it's like, oh shit, he's got him! | ||
| I remember the Rich Franklin fight. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| We beat Rich Franklin, it was like, what is this clinch that he's doing? | ||
| Was that crazy for you to watch? | ||
| Because you were already fighting Muay Thai. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was like, Rich didn't know how to defend the clinch. | ||
| But it was still, at that level on the thing, it was fucking phenomenal. | ||
| It was phenomenal. | ||
| This spectrum of it. | ||
| Well, he was one of the most technical strikers ever at that point. | ||
| Like, we had never seen a guy who moved that good. | ||
| And I had seen him fight a bunch of times in Pride, but then when he went into greatness was like when he was like 30-ish, because that's when he started fighting in Cage Warriors. | ||
| With Tony Fricklin, the backward elbow. | ||
| Backward elbow on Tony Fricklin, and he fought... | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| He fought quite... | ||
| Oh, Lee Murray. | ||
| That was a big one. | ||
| That was when Lee Murray was a straight-up killer. | ||
| We talk about Lee Murray every time I'm on the show. | ||
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You have to. | |
| Great story every time. | ||
| You have to talk about it. | ||
| Go ahead, finish it. | ||
| Tell the story. | ||
| He's a goddamn Guy Ritchie movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Lee Murray's a Guy Ritchie movie. | ||
| He's a human Guy Ritchie movie. | ||
| For people who don't know who he is, he robbed a bank with a bunch of other dudes and they got away with like $500 million. | ||
| And then he jetted off to Morocco for a little bit, was hiding out over there, and then eventually got caught and now he's in jail. | ||
| It was actually at one point in time he was losing weight to try to slip in between the bars. | ||
| He was convinced that if he could get down to a certain weight he could get through the bars. | ||
| There should be a movie about him for sure. | ||
| I think Guy Ritchie has got to be on the case. | ||
| If anybody's making that movie, it's going to be Guy Ritchie. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Jorge Rivera, too. | ||
| That was another fight over there when he fought Jorge Rivera in Cage Warriors. | ||
| That was the one where he let him punch him in the face. | ||
| You remember that? | ||
| There's been a couple of them when he would do that, no? | ||
| He stood right in front of him, and he goes, go ahead. | ||
| And he punches him, he turns his head, he punches him, he turns his head, and he's like, marches him down, starts kicking his ass. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| I don't remember that. | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| I don't remember that. | ||
| It's one of those ones where Mark Delagrate was in Jorge's Corner. | ||
| And he said he's seeing him punch Anderson in the face like, oh shit, he's going to fuck him up. | ||
| Oh shit, he's going to fuck him up. | ||
| And he goes, when Anderson feels nothing and doesn't even react, he's like, oh no! | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Because I mean, he tees off with like several clean punches on Anderson and Anderson's letting him do it. | ||
| And then Anderson just starts marching him down and beating him up. | ||
| And that was what I was accustomed to. | ||
| So I had seen those big three fights over in Cage Warriors. | ||
| And so then when he came to the UFC and he fought Chris Lieben, I was like, oh my god, bet the house on the Brazilian. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Here it is right here. | ||
| This is the fight. | ||
| And by the way, this organization, it's Cage Warriors, right? | ||
| Cage Warriors. | ||
| Cage Rage? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Cage Warriors is a big organization now in England. | ||
| Okay, that's right. | ||
| Cage Rage. | ||
| Cage Rage. | ||
| And they used cargo net for fence instead of chain link fence. | ||
| It's a cargo net. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| This organization had some great fights, man. | ||
| There were some really big fights that came out of here where guys like these two were going at it, and then eventually Anderson rolls on to become the GOAT. And this was like Rivera had been fighting in the UFC with much success. | ||
| He was a good guy, a very tough guy. | ||
| But this was a fight where Anderson just kind of showed how far ahead he is. | ||
| So he's standing right in front of him, marching him down, and at one point in time just lets him start punching him. | ||
| He just knew how to move away from shit just enough. | ||
| And the thing about a guy that fights like Anderson, it's, you know, he's at such a fucking insanely high level for these three or four years. | ||
| This fight, the Vitor fight, the two fights with Rich Franklin. | ||
| Like, I really feel like for an athlete, a real elite athlete, this is the time. | ||
| Like, look at this. | ||
| He's like standing in front of him in the clinch and he's letting him punch him in the face. | ||
| He hit him like three or four times in the face. | ||
| Like, look at this. | ||
| This is the scene. | ||
| Look, he's just letting him hit him. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He's letting him hit him. | ||
| And that's when Della Gratia was like, oh no! | ||
| Because Jorge's a big puncher. | ||
| So for Anderson to clinch with him and let him punch him in the face like that, and then just start marching him down, they were like, how do we win this fight? | ||
| And this was Anderson in his prime. | ||
| And then Anderson in his prime, well, you know, when he fought Chris Lieb, and that's Anderson in his prime. | ||
| There was quite a few fights where he exhibited an insane level of ability. | ||
| Yeah, the Liebman fight was like, holy shit, this dude just fucking iced you. | ||
| Yeah, I had a few friends come to that, and I was telling him, like, dude, go bet on this guy. | ||
| I think he threw, like, 100%. | ||
| Like, every shot he threw was like, everything landed, and then finished. | ||
| Yeah, and that was, back in the day, they didn't know anything. | ||
| Like, the line, the betting lines, they were wacky. | ||
| Like, guys would come in and people didn't know. | ||
| Like, that, you gotta bet on that guy! | ||
| Like, bet on that guy! | ||
| They don't know who he is! | ||
| Oh my god, he's gonna fuck everybody up! | ||
| There was a few of those guys, but no better example than Anderson. | ||
| Like, they were pretty hyped on Anderson being here. | ||
| But it wasn't nearly, it should have been like a thousand to one odds. | ||
| You know, that was one of those fights where you're just like, oh my god, there's a perfect style to, you know, matador. | ||
| Because Liebman was so powerful and so tough, and he would take one to give one. | ||
| Like, you can't take one to give one with Anderson Silva. | ||
| Not that level. | ||
| Anderson's like slick and moves his feet and stays, and Liebman's like a fucking truck guy, you know? | ||
| He's not hard to hit. | ||
| But the way Anderson pulled it off was like fucking poetry, man. | ||
| The combinations he hit him with, just poetry. | ||
| If you're a fan of beautiful timing and poise under pressure, because Liebman's coming with nuclear bombs, right? | ||
| Liebman knocked out Vanderlei, remember? | ||
| And Liebman's thing was he's dangerous when you hit him. | ||
| It was after you could win. | ||
| Liebman, it was like four fights or a couple fights in a row where Liebman got drilled and would come back, probably rocked it blindly and knock a guy out cold. | ||
| One of the best left hands ever. | ||
| There's a few fights like that. | ||
| He had a few crazy wars. | ||
| But when he knocked out Vanderlei Silva, I was like, holy shit, Chris Lieben. | ||
| You just knocked out the axe murderer. | ||
| But he was that guy. | ||
| If he clipped you, man, you had real problems. | ||
| He's a tough motherfucker, too. | ||
| But that style was tailor-made for Anderson. | ||
| So I think, like, there's an argument about Anderson, too. | ||
| There's an argument, like, if you look at years, you know, like years of being amazing, there's an argument that he's... | ||
| I mean, goddamn. | ||
| There was a few years where Anderson was just almost untouchable. | ||
| Yeah, but then you look at, like... | ||
| George St-Pierre. | ||
| Good argument there, too. | ||
| Almost his whole career, he was untouchable, consistent. | ||
| And then when he did lose a fight, he came back and justified it and did it well. | ||
| I think he's got to be up there. | ||
| Oh, he's got to be up there. | ||
| At every level of the fight game. | ||
| I would say right beyond her, under DJ. Yep. | ||
| He's in the conversation, right? | ||
| I think there's a real problem with having a GOAT. A GOAT. Because they're all fighting different divisions. | ||
| Well, and it's of all time, and of all time hasn't happened yet. | ||
| Yeah, it never ends. | ||
| It never ends. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But who the fuck is going to beat John's record? | ||
| Like Chuck Liddell in his day. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Chuck Liddell was like my idol, my hero, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was interesting that Rampage was his kryptonite. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Rampage was his kryptonite over in Pride. | ||
| And it just shows you, like, it's styles. | ||
| You know? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Some guys have a style to beat certain guys, but some people will figure their number out. | ||
| You know, it's such a weird sport, man. | ||
| There's so many things going on. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Your transition from... | ||
| Going through Muay Thai to kickboxing to MMA, I mean, you're one of the rare guys like you and Gaston, and there's a few other dudes who have really competed in all of the major combat sports, other than boxing. | ||
| Do you have any boxing fights? | ||
| I set the U.S. record for the fastest knockout in U.S. history. | ||
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Did you really? | |
| My pro boxing debut, thank you very much. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| When was this? | ||
| Five seconds. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| It was, uh... | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| Dude, I didn't even know you boxed. | ||
| I had like three professional boxing fights. | ||
| I had about 15 professional amateur boxing fights. | ||
| Yeah, I fought at Hollywood Park Casino. | ||
| I fought a guy. | ||
| I was supposed to fight Fernando Vargas' brother and he pulled out like the week before the fight and they got some guy from Wildcard. | ||
| And this guy like idolized Mike Tyson, I guess. | ||
| He's like, what is his name? | ||
| Italian guy. | ||
| And he had a Mike Tyson tattoo on the side of his face. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| And he's got... | ||
| Black high-tops with no socks and the black shorts when we get in the ring. | ||
| I'm like, this dude just looks not there. | ||
| Like a bad cop? | ||
| Like a bad cop. | ||
| You just see him on sight. | ||
| This guy's not all there. | ||
| He stares me down. | ||
| I go back to the corner. | ||
| My coach, we haven't been training for the boxing fight. | ||
| I was like, man, this dude's going to rush me. | ||
| He's like, don't fucking kick him. | ||
| He's going to rush me right off the bat. | ||
| He's like, hit him. | ||
| In boxing, you... | ||
| Kickboxing, they always like walk us through the center kind of like, ready to fight. | ||
| Boxing in MMA that, you know, you ready over there, you ready over there, ready to go. | ||
| So he says, you know, ready to fight, ready to fight, come on through. | ||
| And I take like one step forward and I put my left hand out because I know the guy's going to rush me. | ||
| And sure enough, he just starts sprinting. | ||
| He's like running over and he's going to throw the overhand right. | ||
| And I was like, oh shit. | ||
| And I drop stepped through the right hand. | ||
| He ran into it, knocked him out cold and it was five seconds. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It was tied for the world record at the time. | ||
| The world record was four seconds. | ||
| The US record was five seconds. | ||
| And if I would have taken one more step before I planted and put my foot out, I would have set the record. | ||
| But anyway, yeah, I have a pro boxing foot. | ||
| Dude, the first big thing that Glory did at the Forum, was that the Last Man Standing event? | ||
| The one that you were at? | ||
| It was Last Man Standing. | ||
| Was that the first big event they did at the Forum? | ||
| First one at the Forum, yeah. | ||
| That was crazy, man. | ||
| They did Glory 10 the year before, which was when I won the tournament. | ||
| I fought Artem and Kengo Shimizu. | ||
| Yeah, the Artem Levin fight was awesome. | ||
| And the knee that you caught him with on the way down, too, was perfect. | ||
| Man, I still... | ||
| I guess it didn't matter. | ||
| I won. | ||
| But I think I knocked him out with the Superman, and when he was falling on the way down... | ||
| You woke him up? | ||
| I hit him with the knee, and I woke him up. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| I've done that a couple times in my career. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| You could actually wake someone up with a punch? | ||
| You would think you wouldn't care, but he eats at me at night. | ||
| I'm like, fuck, I could have had that, you know? | ||
| You never know, though. | ||
| That's speculation, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| He definitely had him fucked up from the punch, too. | ||
| But I felt like the knee did more damage. | ||
| I felt like it helped. | ||
| Want to see it? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I want to see it. | ||
| Joe Schilling drops Artem Levin. | ||
| And he was a bad motherfucker, man. | ||
| That guy is so interesting. | ||
| Bad motherfucker. | ||
| Interesting style. | ||
| You know, weird. | ||
| Tricky. | ||
| He's like a real technician. | ||
| Very slick. | ||
| Very hard to hit. | ||
| And he'll throw shit with no telegraphing, particularly these low kicks. | ||
| They come out of nowhere. | ||
| There's no step. | ||
| He just smacks them in there on you sometimes. | ||
| He has all these change-up speeds. | ||
| If you ever watch Fedor fight, he does a lot of... | ||
| I don't know if you'll understand it, but Russian boxing is a little different. | ||
| They have a little different footwork in their movements and stuff. | ||
| Fedor does kind of that stuff, and Artem for sure does it a lot. | ||
| Yeah, he's slick, man. | ||
| He's real slick. | ||
| This is a great fucking fight, by the way. | ||
| This is the very end. | ||
| So Artim is real tall, and he's real hard to hit. | ||
| I had a real hard time reaching him with punches. | ||
| So every time I would throw the right hand, he would lean back just out of... | ||
| Just out of range where I couldn't reach him. | ||
| That's why I threw the Superman punch, so I could jump a few feet farther. | ||
| Just let some of it roll. | ||
| Just let it roll. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| My favorite knockout of yours ever, though, was Simon Marcus. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| That was crazy, because that was a wild-ass fight. | ||
| And you had to go four rounds. | ||
| And you were there for it. | ||
| You fought the arena that night. | ||
| Oh my god, dude! | ||
| That gave me hope for kickboxing. | ||
| It really did. | ||
| It gave me a lot of hope for kickboxing as well. | ||
| Because I was like, the forum is fucking packed, and the fights were wild, man. | ||
| I mean, it was a wild event. | ||
| When you threw that right-hand haymaker and caught Simon Marcus on the chin, you see his jaw snap sideways and his mouthpiece go flying out. | ||
| That was one of the prettiest knockouts ever. | ||
| And also because of the fact the fight was so close. | ||
| It was so much chaos. | ||
| That fight was wild, dude. | ||
| And he dropped you in the second? | ||
| Was it in the second round? | ||
| Yep, second round. | ||
| And it was like, oh shit. | ||
| It was a fucking war, man. | ||
| There was so much heavy bombing on each other. | ||
| And this is a tournament. | ||
| You had to fight four times that night? | ||
| Three times. | ||
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Dude. | |
| And we had fought twice in the past, and we had a lot of... | ||
| Animosity? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, yes, you know. | ||
| Tension? | ||
| A lot of tension, a lot of animosity. | ||
| Just competitive drive? | ||
| Glory kind of got big in the U.S., We're just after we had started, the Muay Thai had started growing in the US. Lion Fight started doing well. | ||
| And a lot of that happened because of Simon and I's two fights in Lion Fight. | ||
| Like I started Can't Stop Crazy. | ||
| We started doing our own interviews. | ||
| We're like giving like, talking shit back and forth. | ||
| Like there was like a hype behind. | ||
| Find the whole thing. | ||
| We bet our purse for the fight. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| On our first fight. | ||
| Yeah, our first fight. | ||
| We bet our purses. | ||
| Mine was a little bigger, so I matched his purse, but it was still in the media. | ||
| It was known that we were betting our purses on the fight. | ||
| We sold out the Hard Rock, the Pond or whatever for... | ||
| Was it the Pearl? | ||
| The Pond? | ||
| The Pearl, the Pond? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You had some wild fights with him. | ||
| So then when we came back later, he had beat me twice. | ||
| Beat me twice. | ||
| So you had to give him up your purse? | ||
| Yeah, when I lost. | ||
| How bad did that suck? | ||
| It was like six grand, but I was only making like, I don't think it was that much. | ||
| It was like, I think he made like three grand. | ||
| I mean, I went home with like a thousand bucks, which at the time was a lot. | ||
| It sucked. | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| And I wanted the rematch. | ||
| And then we had the rematch and there was controversy behind that too. | ||
| And then years later we fought and glory and it was like redemption. | ||
| And then I knocked him out on the extra round. | ||
| It was... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Fourth round, man. | ||
| I'll never forget it. | ||
| Because after the third, I was like, what? | ||
| They gotta go one more round of this? | ||
| Because it was such a fucking crazy fight. | ||
| I was gonna bring this... | ||
| I'm glad you brought that up. | ||
| So, remember everybody's talking about this week in the fight where Drysdale... | ||
| They were telling him to stop the fight. | ||
| And he was like, Drysdale's just trying to be a coach, trying to keep him going or whatever. | ||
| And there's a lot of people saying... | ||
| If the fighter says he doesn't want to do it anymore or whatever. | ||
| That's Simon Marcus fight after three rounds. | ||
| Now, I wasn't begging my coach to stop it, but I did not want to go another fucking round. | ||
| And I was like, oh, did I win? | ||
| I think you're going to have to do one more. | ||
| And I'm like, fuck, I can't do one more. | ||
| I don't want to do one more. | ||
| I can't do one more. | ||
| My coach is like, fucking, you can do it one more round. | ||
| Then we do it. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Nope, that's not the punch. | ||
| A lot of fighters experience that, and it's the coach's job, I think, to try to keep them going. | ||
| I'm on Drysdale's side on that. | ||
| But ultimately, he didn't fight anyway. | ||
| They stopped it, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, ultimately, he did. | ||
| But it was very, very controversial. | ||
| But I get Drysdale's position. | ||
| And listen, in retrospect, after the conversation is over, yeah, maybe you should have called it when the guy said, call it. | ||
| But in the moment, he doesn't know that he can't talk the guy into fighting and then maybe the guy wins. | ||
| You don't know what a person's psychological mindset is like unless you train with that person. | ||
| And there are some people that you can talk into performing better. | ||
| That said, he took a lot of fucking punishment in that second round, right? | ||
| Maybe he knew something. | ||
| Maybe it was a good thing to stop. | ||
| There's some times when your body's just broken. | ||
| There's some times when you shouldn't go on. | ||
| And this debate, I think, is very healthy. | ||
| The debate of whether or not the coach was right or whether or not the guy was right. | ||
| Ultimately, the guy's right because he can't go on, so he doesn't. | ||
| And he quits. | ||
| And that's his decision. | ||
| Only he knows what was going on with his body. | ||
| You remember when Gerald McClellan got criticized for taking a knee against Nigel Benn? | ||
| I don't know if you remember it, but that's the fight that put Gerald McClellan in a coma and severely handicapped him. | ||
| Gerald McClellan at the time was a fucking assassin, man. | ||
| He was so scary. | ||
| But he was another guy that cut way too much weight. | ||
| He cut a lot of weight, man. | ||
| It was hard for him. | ||
| He was really big. | ||
| And so when he would get into the... | ||
| I forget if he's fought 168. I think he was fighting in Roy Jones's division. | ||
| Is it 168 or 175? | ||
| Pull up Gerald McClellan vs. | ||
| Nigel Benn. | ||
| This was the Dark Destroyer. | ||
| Because Nigel Benn, it was a wild ass fight too. | ||
| Nigel's got crazy dreadlocks. | ||
| And Gerald McClellan knocked him through the ropes in the first round. | ||
| Because he would smash people. | ||
| He would just smash people. | ||
| He was a cronk guy. | ||
| So he fought like a cronk guy. | ||
| Just moving forward behind the jab. | ||
| Big right hands. | ||
| Just nasty, vicious puncher. | ||
| Well, Nigel Benn gets up, and he makes it through the round, and then turns into a war. | ||
| And then Gerald McClellan starts getting tired, and then they clash heads. | ||
| And then Nigel Benn hits him with a couple punches late in the fight, and when Nigel Benn hit him... | ||
| See, this is early on. | ||
| Go a little earlier than this, so we could see this combination. | ||
| But this was Gerald McClellan, and everybody was real keen on him fighting Roy Jones Jr. This was when Roy Jones was in his prime, and this was the big challenge. | ||
| Was Gerald McClellan, Roy Jones Jr. Everybody was thinking that was eventually going to have to happen. | ||
| Because Gerald was just smashing people. | ||
| And Nigel Benn was tough, man. | ||
| Fucking tough. | ||
| But look at this. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| He's out, man. | ||
| And he falls through the fucking ropes. | ||
| You can see he's really out of it. | ||
| But so tough and so conditioned that he makes it back. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Barely can get through the ropes. | ||
| Got a lot of seconds there, though. | ||
| That's probably more than 10 seconds. | ||
| So anyway, look at the referee, there's more seconds. | ||
| And Gerald's still teeing off on him. | ||
| And Nigel survives! | ||
| It doesn't seem like he's gonna survive, but he fucking survives. | ||
| So then, late in the fight, Nigel's making a comeback. | ||
| So scooch way ahead here. | ||
| And when Nigel starts teeing off Gerald and Gerald's punches are coming real slow and he's getting tired and Nigel starts connecting and I mean the crowd is going fucking bananas it is a wild ass fight and at one point in time they headbutt and then Nigel hits him with some punches and McClellan takes a knee and everybody's like I can't believe this he's gonna quit he's gonna quit and then he goes to his corner and then he slumps and goes unconscious like he knew something was wrong And anybody that criticizes | ||
| in the moment, you know, they're saying, I can't believe he's doing this. | ||
| I can't believe he's fucking, he's just gonna quit. | ||
| But he knew something was really off. | ||
| Only the fighter knows. | ||
| I mean, maybe it's psychological, but maybe something's wrong, man. | ||
| Maybe he can't think. | ||
| Maybe his brain is just fucked. | ||
| Maybe he knows he's not gonna be able to punch right. | ||
| Maybe he knows. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| So he goes down and just decides to stay down. | ||
| He's like, something is fucking really wrong. | ||
| He's like out of it. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| And you see, this is, I mean, Gerald, he just looks, it looks wrong. | ||
| Something looks wrong. | ||
| You know, he's hurt bad, and Nigel Benn is moving in for the fucking kill. | ||
| And he drops him there with an uppercut, and this is where he quits. | ||
| See, now, this is where, like, you see him, he's struggling, man. | ||
| But, if I remember correctly, the commentators were shocked that he decided to stay down. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's quit. | ||
| So they said it that way, and I think they were expressing some shock that he quit and pretty pumped that Nigel Benn beat him. | ||
| But they didn't know. | ||
| And Gerald McClellan, that injury, scared the fuck out of everybody because he was one of the golden guys. | ||
| He was one of the guys that everybody was excited about. | ||
| It was like if that happened today to Ryan Garcia or someone like that. | ||
| Someone who's a real exciting up-and-coming dude. | ||
| Someone who's... | ||
| You know, Canelo. | ||
| I guess Canelo's a bigger star than Gerald. | ||
| But when someone who's of that nature, like an elite, super elite fighter, winds up going into a coma like that, that's fucking terrifying shit. | ||
| And he came out of it okay? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| He died. | ||
| No, he's all fucked up. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, he can't see. | ||
| And, you know, there's been some videos of Roy Jones Jr. visiting him. | ||
| But apparently that was responsible for Roy Jones kind of altering his style and being very safety first. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And just thinking about eventually, you know, getting out of the sport, which is ironic, right? | ||
| Because he wound up fighting later and later and later. | ||
| I mean, he had his last fight just a couple of years ago. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's a wild-ass sport. | ||
| You're in Joe Schilling. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All the aspects of it, whether it's boxing or Muay Thai or MMA. When is Bellator going to start having fights again? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't heard from them. | ||
| They're playing it safe, huh? | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| They don't have a fight island, I guess. | ||
| But you can have fights in new crowds. | ||
| They're letting people do that. | ||
| Are they doing that? | ||
| The UFC's done a few of them. | ||
| Man, UFC's done it. | ||
| They test the fuck out of you. | ||
| Yeah, I was there with Daniel Rodriguez. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah, we were tested when we first got there. | ||
| They made it take our temperature every day. | ||
| They bought out the whole hotel. | ||
| Yeah, I was there. | ||
| We were social distanced the whole time. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's... | ||
| Oh, no, I wasn't there for that one. | ||
| That was the Vegas one, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's okay the way they're doing it. | ||
| It's working out for everybody. | ||
| Guys getting to fight. | ||
| We're all getting to see that. | ||
| So there's something about Ferguson versus Gagey. | ||
| To have that in an empty arena, there was something wild about it. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| There was something wild about no crowd. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I think it added. | ||
| You could hear everything. | ||
| I think it added... | ||
| I mean, I don't think it's the right way to do it. | ||
| I think it's best with the crowd. | ||
| But it's not a bad thing to have no crowd. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, maybe guys can fight better, too. | ||
| There might be guys who can, like, stay more calm because there's less energy. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| I could see a lot of people feeling that way, probably. | ||
| Yeah, probably, right? | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Because, god damn, they've had some fucking wild fights. | ||
| That Gaethje-Ferguson fight was insane. | ||
|
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What a fucking fight. | |
| How do you watch that fight and you're not a tremendous fan of both of them after that? | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Both of them. | ||
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Both of them. | |
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| Both of them. | ||
| Dude, Gaethje is a stud. | ||
| He just figured out. | ||
| He just figured out how to just take a little bit off. | ||
| Take a little bit off. | ||
| Step away a little bit sometimes. | ||
| Come in at angles. | ||
| Faint sometimes. | ||
| Don't just maul people. | ||
| Because he was breaking people's will before, you know? | ||
| I think Trevor Whitman and his relationship is really special. | ||
| It had a lot to do with him being able to say exactly what he needed to hear to do what they did. | ||
| It was really impressive. | ||
| There's that for sure. | ||
| Whitman's a bad motherfucker and he's very smart. | ||
| God, he loves Gagey and he loves his athletes and he loves the sport. | ||
| No doubt about that. | ||
| Trevor's a wizard. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| But Gagey's something special, man. | ||
| Something special about that kid's mind. | ||
| It's his body for sure. | ||
| He's got, you know, awesome skills. | ||
| One of the best, like, leg kickers in a clinch I think I've ever seen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, he knows how to, like, while you're tying up in the clinch, he'll fucking, just a little step and a nasty leg kick. | ||
| He's fucking... | ||
| A gas tank and a workhorse and a fucking throwing bombs and, like... | ||
| And walks to the cage like he's getting to his truck to go to work in the morning. | ||
| Almost like there's no emotions. | ||
| There's nothing, no nerves, no weirdness, no craziness. | ||
| I don't remember the exact quote, so I'm not even going to bother saying it. | ||
| But it was something fucking iconic as fuck. | ||
| He was talking about the fighters. | ||
| He's either going to knock me or I'm going to knock him out. | ||
| That's just the way it's going to be. | ||
| He said it way better than that. | ||
| Yeah, because he's not bragging. | ||
| There was no way you could read it and not respect the fuck out of him the way he said it. | ||
| It was dope. | ||
| That's the way he fights, too. | ||
| Yeah, he's a cool dude. | ||
| Even the fights that he's lost, the Poirier fight and the Eddie Alvarez fight, fucking amazing fights, man. | ||
| And he almost lost the Michael Johnson fight. | ||
| Michael Johnson had him buying real estate on Queer Street. | ||
| He was dancing all over the place. | ||
| I mean, it was wild that he survived that, because Johnson has a nasty left hand. | ||
| And he clipped him with several punches, like big shots. | ||
| He had Gagey wobbled, like real wobbled. | ||
| That's one of those fights that could have easily gone the other way. | ||
| Johnson could have caught him with one more shot. | ||
| The Poirier fight, too. | ||
| The Poirier fight was... | ||
| Anyone could have had that fight. | ||
| Anyone could have had that fight. | ||
| And Poirier's leg was shot, man. | ||
| He chops legs like nobody, man. | ||
| Crazy, because he came out as a wrestler. | ||
| Wrestler. | ||
| Never wrestles. | ||
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No! | |
| Never wrestles. | ||
| Doesn't wrestle anybody! | ||
| But that's what makes him so dangerous for Khabib, right? | ||
| Because Khabib is the wrestler who always wrestles. | ||
| Obviously showed he could drop Conor. | ||
| Obviously shows he's fast as fuck with his hands on his feet. | ||
| He's dropped guys before. | ||
| But he's not a kickboxer in the sense that like Gagey is. | ||
| When you see Gagey fighting, he's basically a kickboxer. | ||
| I mean, with a wrestling background and skill so that you can't take him down. | ||
| So he's forcing the kickboxing, but he stands straight up. | ||
| You know, he's standing like a striker. | ||
| He stands like a striker. | ||
| Like, so does Jorge Masvidal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He stands straight up. | ||
| Man, his striking is really, really good. | ||
| He's been really good. | ||
| His fight with Nate was fucking awesome. | ||
| Nasty. | ||
| He's so good, man. | ||
| So good. | ||
| So clever. | ||
| So good. | ||
| So funny. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| I think he's hilarious. | ||
| I really like both those guys. | ||
| You know what else he is? | ||
| He's fucking mean. | ||
| That's a mean dude. | ||
| Like when they asked him about the Ben Askren shot, was it necessary to punch him again on the ground? | ||
| He goes, it was super necessary. | ||
| Super necessary. | ||
| That became like a big hashtag, super necessary. | ||
| Dude, it's hilarious. | ||
| I think it's hilarious. | ||
| But hey man, he's in the fucking Hurt game. | ||
| You can't play your bullshit nonsense in the Hurt game. | ||
| And if everybody's picking a gimmick or whatever and they're trying to push and everyone's trying to be Connor, why not be yourself who's fucking mean? | ||
| You're mean. | ||
| Yeah, and super talented. | ||
| So talented. | ||
| So much experience. | ||
| People don't know. | ||
| That guy knocked out Eve Edwards with a head kick in Bodog. | ||
| Eve Edwards. | ||
| Eve Edwards is a slick striker, especially back then. | ||
| That was Eve Edwards when Eve Edwards was arguably the best 155-pounder in the world. | ||
| That was after he knocked out Josh Thompson in that highlight reel where he throws that round kick off the spin. | ||
| Spinning back fist, yeah. | ||
| Spinning back fist, then he throws a round kick and catches him right in the net. | ||
| It's still like the UFC's little clip. | ||
| And it's Josh Buck and Thompson. | ||
| He's one of the toughest guys to ever live. | ||
| Another monster. | ||
| Another monster. | ||
| I mean, that was the last guy to knock out Nate. | ||
| Before Masvidal had stopped him. | ||
| He was the first guy to ever stop Nate. | ||
| Josh is as good as he gets. | ||
| When you see that fight, that was two guys who easily could have done the same to each other. | ||
| Time didn't play out that way. | ||
| Eve landed the perfect shot. | ||
| It was a neck kick. | ||
| It was just fucking spectacular. | ||
| At that time, Eve was thought to be absolutely one of the very best fighters in the world. | ||
| Probably the best 155 pounder alive. | ||
| The UFC changed the division. | ||
| They gave up the 155 division back then. | ||
| I remember it. | ||
| It was very disheartening. | ||
| I was like, there's so much talent in this division. | ||
| But they were hemorrhaging money, man. | ||
| This is all pre-Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| They didn't know what they were doing. | ||
| In terms of the future, they were $44 million in debt. | ||
| They were like, what are we doing? | ||
| Are we going to sell this? | ||
| Are we going to keep it? | ||
| They just had their balls, though. | ||
| Lorenzo Fertitta, Frank Fertitta, and Dana White, all three of them have balls. | ||
| They were just like, let's just ride. | ||
| Let's let it ride. | ||
| They were calling Dana up going, look for a buyer. | ||
| Let's find a buyer. | ||
| We've got to get out of this. | ||
| We're not going to lose our family's fortune. | ||
| We're $44 million in the hole in this cage fighting shit. | ||
| Obviously, this is too brutal for America. | ||
| They're not really into it. | ||
| But then they figured it out. | ||
| That Ultimate Fighter show, they financed the whole show, paid for all of it. | ||
| Paid for the whole thing. | ||
| Paid to be on the network. | ||
| And then, boom! | ||
| That one final fight with Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonner. | ||
| And these two crazy fucks are beating the shit out of each other. | ||
| And it is a wild melee of a fight. | ||
| And the viewership just keeps going up during the fight. | ||
| Millions and millions of people watched during the fight. | ||
| Like, tuned in. | ||
| Extra people tuned in. | ||
| Because people were calling their friends like, bro, you gotta watch this shit. | ||
| This is nuts! | ||
| And this spec, people didn't even know what it was. | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| What, do they got little gloves on? | ||
| What is happening here? | ||
| Before the Ultimate Fighter, there was fans of UFC or cage fighting or whatever, but they didn't really get to know who Chuck Liddell was that much. | ||
| They didn't get to know those people. | ||
| With the Ultimate Fighter, they got to know these people. | ||
| There was a thing that grew, and then you saw this insane fight. | ||
| Couldn't have played out better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Couldn't have played out better. | ||
| God damn, they nailed it. | ||
| And then boom! | ||
| And that was a Craig Polygian show. | ||
| He was the guy who did Survivor. | ||
| He knew how to do those reality shows. | ||
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Oh really? | |
| Dude, he's a G. He's one of the greats in terms of that genre. | ||
| That guy knows how to make those fucking shows. | ||
| That's why it was so good. | ||
| It didn't feel like a clunky reality show. | ||
| It was a fun reality show to watch. | ||
| Oh, they're bringing it back, by the way. | ||
| Paulo Costa and Israel Adesanya. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Tell me you're not going to watch that. | ||
| I'm for sure going to watch that. | ||
| That fight is a wild fight, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to see Izzy and Jon Jones, though. | ||
| I do, too. | ||
| I do, too. | ||
| But Izzy and Costa has to happen, man. | ||
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For sure. | |
| When you see what Costa did to Yoel Romero, walking down Yoel Romero, who the fuck walks down Yoel Romero? | ||
| There's a picture I put up on my Instagram of him head-kicking Romero. | ||
| I mean, just clean. | ||
| Just clean. | ||
| Shin to the head. | ||
| And you see Romero's crazy skull turn sideways. | ||
| I'll tell you something that Dana White told me. | ||
| Yoel had an injury in one of his fights. | ||
| He had some sort of fractured orbital. | ||
| Some sort of minor fracture of the bone around his eye. | ||
| After the fight. | ||
| Yeah, after the fight. | ||
| During the fight, he got it. | ||
| After the fight, they sent him to a doctor. | ||
| The doctor calls the UFC. He goes, where did you find this guy? | ||
| And they go, yeah, he's a stud, right? | ||
| He goes, no, no, no. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| Like, I've never seen... | ||
| The guy was like, I've practiced medicine for almost 50 years. | ||
| He goes, I've never seen a person who's built like this. | ||
| He said the tendons in his eyes are three times larger than a normal person's. | ||
| Like, here's it. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Well, that's one of them. | ||
| He had kicked him several times. | ||
| But there's one image... | ||
| There's an image that I had on my Instagram that it's so crazy. | ||
| It just kept beating him down. | ||
| Oh, this is the entire thing? | ||
| There it is. | ||
| That was the one that was on my Instagram. | ||
| He just head kicked him over and over again. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's the picture. | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
| The guy's just made out of metal. | ||
| And all the guys who fight him say that, too. | ||
| Luke Rock, look at that. | ||
| I mean, come on, man. | ||
| Jarek Brunson just clanged his shin off of his head. | ||
| In the back of the head. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Uriah Hall and him are gonna fight. | ||
| That's a great fight. | ||
| August 22nd. | ||
| He's the most terrifying specimen. | ||
| So the doctor was saying, like, what is going on with this guy? | ||
| He's built like no person I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| And so what the UFC was trying to figure out was Cuba. | ||
| has always had a very aggressive athlete program and they've been involved in all kinds of weird shenanigans and they're tightly connected to the Soviet Union particularly back then and he was on the Cuban Olympic team and you know Soviet Union has done some really weird shit when it comes to you know like experiments on athletes and you saw the movie Icarus right? | ||
| Did you ever see that movie? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| You need to see that movie. | ||
| I might have seen it. | ||
| Tell me about it. | ||
| It's about this guy who is... | ||
| The guy who made the document... | ||
| What is Brian's last name again? | ||
| The guy who made it? | ||
| Pull up the image of it. | ||
| It's a Netflix... | ||
| Icarus. | ||
| Fogel, that's right. | ||
| Sorry, Brian. | ||
| I smoke too much weed. | ||
| So what Brian decides to do is film himself competing in an endurance race, a bike race, and then do it the next time, next year, juiced up. | ||
| So he does one year. | ||
| And he does this whole thing. | ||
| I think I did see part of this. | ||
| It's an amazing documentary. | ||
| Then he gets in touch with this Russian guy who's going to teach him how to do it. | ||
| And this Russian guy works for the Russian Anti-Doping Agency or whatever they call it over there. | ||
| And the Russian guy, in the middle of this happening, in the middle of doping him up, It turns out that they catch the fact that the Russian team had basically taken, in the Sochi Olympics, they basically taken all of the piss that was like the clean piss, the piss that people did samples, they removed them through a hole in the wall and replaced them with clean piss. | ||
| So every single athlete Had their piss swapped out. | ||
| And this guy, who's the Russian guy, is explaining this all to this Brian Fogel guy. | ||
| While this is all going down in the news, he just stepped in shit. | ||
| So this is all going down in the news that they caught the Russian sports, whatever the fuck they are, Did they figure out these there's micro scratches inside these bottles that indicate there were these removal unremovable bottles had actually been removed and they figured out how to do it with some sort of a tool but the tool left scratches on and they figured this out and then they found this hole in the wall like a hole that big where they would I would hand you some dirty piss you'd hand me some clean piss I'd replace the piss and so they did that with all the athletes so all the Russian athlete most likely juice to the | ||
| fucking gills No, no, no. | ||
| They did it. | ||
| The athlete's just pissed. | ||
| But his perspective was it was their job to be on steroids. | ||
| They all were on steroids. | ||
| This wasn't like they didn't get to choose. | ||
| It wasn't like they're cheating. | ||
| The government is making sure you cheat. | ||
| They're going to take care of you. | ||
| Dude, it's crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's an amazing documentary. | ||
| So what happens when he... | ||
| He has to go on the witness protection program. | ||
| So the guy comes to America. | ||
| Oh yeah, everybody's smashing. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| He actually got injured a bunch, and actually his time sucked on the second one. | ||
| And I think his battery broke. | ||
| Something broke on his bike. | ||
| Something fucked up on his bike, too. | ||
| He had some problems. | ||
| So he didn't wind up doing that well. | ||
| That steroids work, and instead he proved that... | ||
| Well, he proved that he gets injured. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But along the way, he planned on doing really good on Juice, but he just got fucked up a bunch of times and he wound up being hurt and didn't perform that well. | ||
| It won the Oscar for Best Documentary. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| And it should have. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| But once he did it, and he starts interacting with this Russian cat who's teaching him how to do all this stuff. | ||
| What is the guy's name? | ||
| Gregorov? | ||
| Yuri? | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Gregorov? | ||
| These goddamn Russian names. | ||
| Grigory Rodchenkov. | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| Okay, Grigory Rodchenkov. | ||
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| So that's the guy. | ||
| And, um, I mean, he basically spills all the beans. | ||
| So once he realizes, like, he's on the run, by the way, they take away his family's money, they take away their home, they made him homeless, they made his family homeless. | ||
| He had to leave behind his wife and his kids. | ||
| Like, he's fucked. | ||
| Like, it's not good. | ||
| And he's hiding in America. | ||
| He's probably in South Dakota right now, in a dive bar with fucking four goons standing over his shoulders looking out for Russians. | ||
| I mean, he's fucked. | ||
| And he told the whole truth of how they did it, why they did it, the way they've done it always in the past. | ||
| And it's not a coincidence that Russia, like, the amount of gold medalists they got from that one Olympics was just staggering. | ||
| And then the Olympic Committee removed them from the next one. | ||
| Like, they weren't able to compete, like a lot of the sports, they weren't able to compete in the next Olympics. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| But he was also detailing how crazy it is that the Olympic Committee and the World Doping Agency, the WADA, is it WADA? Whichever one it was that test them. | ||
| They work for each other. | ||
| Like this guy will go to work for there and that guy will go to work for here. | ||
| They're all buddies. | ||
| We're friends over here. | ||
| Carl Lewis, he's a good guy. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| Get rid of that piss. | ||
| Here, take my piss. | ||
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I'm clean. | |
| Take my piss. | ||
| And, you know, that was one of the things that they had said about, like, Lance. | ||
| You know, like Lance Armstrong getting tested for Tour de France. | ||
| Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. | ||
| Fucking everybody's on it. | ||
| You got a dirty sport, man. | ||
| Like, if you want to take away Lance Armstrong's, what is it, a green shirt or something like that? | ||
| What do you get? | ||
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Yellow jersey. | |
| Yellow jersey. | ||
| For being a bad motherfucker on a bike. | ||
| If you want to give it to the next person in line, it was like 18th place. | ||
| It was like 26 or something. | ||
| It was something fucking astronomical. | ||
| Bill Burr had a great bit about it. | ||
| He's like, our psycho's better than your psycho. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| You're all a bunch of fucking nuts. | ||
| You're all taking drugs. | ||
| From the Russian perspective, those gold medals were worth it to them to fucking ruin that guy's life for lying about it, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, they wanted to kill him. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| They wanted to kill Rigorov, whatever his name is, the Russian scientist. | ||
| They wanted to kill him. | ||
| That's why he's hiding. | ||
| He's probably going to have to hide for the rest of his life. | ||
| I mean, this is just the life he chose. | ||
| Terrifying, man. | ||
| Just really terrifying. | ||
| But also the same thing that happened in China, Beijing Olympics. | ||
| Chinese won, like, they won so many gold medals. | ||
| Yeah, wasn't it like the little tiny gymnastic girls were on juice or something? | ||
| I'm sure they were on juice. | ||
| All the ballerina chicks, like the walking on the beam. | ||
| Can you imagine juicing up a little baby? | ||
| Like, you're going to do the best backflips, honey. | ||
| Take a little of this Anadrol 50. Get a big ol' fuckin'... | ||
| We're gonna band your feet up really small and lose all your toes so that you can stand on your toe better, you know, from birth. | ||
| Did they do that? | ||
| They had, yeah, there used to be a thing like, uh... | ||
| China would, they would... | ||
| Take babies and when they're females and baby or whatever, they would like tie their feet up really tight so their feet would not grow and they'd be really small. | ||
| Yeah, but that was just for aesthetics, right? | ||
| It was like a sign of something. | ||
| Yeah, like you have little feet. | ||
| The old women can't walk because their feet are tiny because whatever. | ||
| Have you ever seen the images of the feet when they bind them? | ||
| Well, you're about to. | ||
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I'm sure I have. | |
| Jamie? | ||
| Chinese foot bonding. | ||
| It's like, people do weird shit, man. | ||
| Like, I have friends who have those big ear holes. | ||
| Like, that's okay. | ||
| Shout out to Boogie, my friend Richie Martinez. | ||
| He's got big old ear holes. | ||
| I had a student at the gym that... | ||
| I'm like, bro, you can't spar with that. | ||
| You're not going to be able to fight like that. | ||
| He's like, no, it's cool. | ||
| And he would take the big hole and flip it over the top. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And I'm like, all right, you can spar. | ||
| Look at that lady's feet. | ||
| You look terrible. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Look how her toes are tucked under her feet. | ||
| So her little toe is tucked under and she stands on her toenail and it's dug into a groove in her foot. | ||
| Just goes to show you how flexible people are, pliable. | ||
| Like look at her. | ||
| There's her standing around with her husband. | ||
| He's like, still too big. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's so nasty. | ||
| Look at her feet, man. | ||
| That's a little shoes for her. | ||
| Go back to that other picture of her with her feet out. | ||
| That's crazy, man. | ||
| Imagine doing that to yourself. | ||
| That has to hurt like hell. | ||
| She's looking down on him. | ||
| Yeah, and they hurt like hell for years. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Just the process. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| To get to that? | ||
| To get to that, yeah. | ||
| Well, it's crazy. | ||
| It's absolutely crazy that they do that. | ||
| And look at those little tiny shoes that she's wearing. | ||
| I mean, it is absolutely crazy, but it's almost crazier what they used to do to heads. | ||
| Like in ancient cultures where they would flatten heads out to make them look like aliens and stretch them out. | ||
| Ever seen any of that? | ||
| While they were alive? | ||
| Yeah, when they were young. | ||
| They would take babies. | ||
| And while the children were young, and this is a really freaky thing, when they started finding these skulls, they're like, what are we looking at? | ||
| Are these aliens? | ||
| They were trying to figure it out, because your skull is a lot more pliable than you think, especially when you're young. | ||
| Yeah, the baby is really soft. | ||
| So they developed this thing where they would put planks on the side of the kid's head and fucking clamp it down, and they would stretch their head out. | ||
| Like an alien. | ||
| Because it's like nobility to have a large skull or something. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I think it's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| In Africa, they put those weighted rings around the women's neck, and then it looks like their neck is really long, but really they just compress their shoulders down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's super bad for the neck. | ||
| When you take that shit off, your head's going to fall off. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| That's holding your head up now. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| They probably snore terrible, too. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All those rings. | ||
| You got anything for me? | ||
| The article said that the reason why they did that was similar to the reason Victorian women would do the waist stuff. | ||
| It was like a status symbol. | ||
| So like three inches was the best for feet. | ||
| Four inches was a little better. | ||
| Five inches and above was like, ah. | ||
| Look at that waist. | ||
| That's so gross. | ||
| And wasn't there another time, I think maybe it was before this, where being fat was a sign of nobility or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| If you were fat, you were like, fat chicks were the thing, because it showed you had money. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| When I was in Thailand, the guys would always wear white powder all over their face, like bleaching powder, because if... | ||
| If you were too tan, then it showed that you were like a worker and you worked outside, so everybody would always try to bleach their skin white. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's dark. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| They would always have like an umbrella. | ||
| They didn't want sun. | ||
| They're like hiding from the sun all the time. | ||
| They didn't want to get too dark. | ||
| Nurse Rachel, the Filipino lady, she was explaining that to us. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why people like glutathione. | ||
| Glutathione apparently can make your skin lighter in some doses. | ||
| What else is glutathione for? | ||
| Glutathione is something that helps you recover from alcohol. | ||
| It helps your body process alcohol a little bit better. | ||
| It's got a bunch of functions. | ||
| I'm the wrong person to ask. | ||
| It's real good for you. | ||
| You want a liposomal glutathione. | ||
| It's the best in terms of like, unless you get IV. You could take it as a supplement. | ||
| But it's good for, it actually helps you get over hangovers and shit. | ||
| Doesn't completely do it, but it gives you like a little extra boost. | ||
| So you get like the hotel room IV in Vegas, that's what they're giving you? | ||
| They're giving you glutathione if you ask for it. | ||
| Yeah, you should ask for it. | ||
| If you want to get one of them hotel IV jammies. | ||
| Jamie and I get one once a week. | ||
| Yeah, we get IV, vitamin drip, and we get NAD. It's NAD. NAD. Here we go, I'll fuck that up. | ||
| You think I fucked up that Gregorio guy? | ||
| Let me fuck up NAD for you. | ||
| What does it do? | ||
| It actually helps keep you younger and also keeps your body performing younger and maybe even lengthens your telomeres. | ||
| Telomeres which are an indication or an indicator of your age as your telomeres get as you get older they get smaller they get shorter and this stuff apparently can somehow or another lengthen it. | ||
| NAD has two general sets of reactions in the human body. | ||
| What does NAD stand for? | ||
| Does it say what it stands for? | ||
| It means something. | ||
| It's like short for... | ||
| Does it say? | ||
| What's that picture right there? | ||
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| It doesn't? | ||
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Does it break down what those things are for? | |
| I know it means something. | ||
| It has a name. | ||
| Can you Google what does NAD mean? | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| Nicotinamide andinine dinucleotide. | ||
| That was pretty good. | ||
| I'm tired though now. | ||
| You read that way better than I would. | ||
| I used my monkey brain and now I'm tired. | ||
| Helps turning nutrients into energy as a key player in metabolism and working as a helper molecule for proteins that regulate other cellular functions. | ||
| This is like a normal thing that lots of people have or this is like a special Joe Rogan secret sauce? | ||
| You can get it. | ||
| They sell it. | ||
| People can get it. | ||
| It's not cheap, but it's very good for you. | ||
| You feel great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just I'm getting old and I'm willing to try anything. | ||
| When you're like 52 and you still like working out, you're like, okay, what do I have to do? | ||
| What else you got? | ||
| What do I have to do? | ||
| What's the new-new? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm only willing to do so much because if they're like, well, you got to drink water and no more alcohol forever, I'm like, huh. | ||
| Or what's the other option? | ||
| I live less, but I enjoy it more. | ||
| You drink a little more water and you can still drink alcohol. | ||
| I have a complex life. | ||
| I need a little booze every now and then. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I need a break. | ||
| I need a break. | ||
| I need a break from responsibilities. | ||
| I need a break from anxiety. | ||
| I need a break from just thinking, from people's opinions, from war, from chaos, from arguments. | ||
| I mean, it's crazy times right now. | ||
| If I couldn't just smoke a joint, drink a beer, let it all sink in, you know? | ||
| The people that don't are fascinating. | ||
| Like, what are you doing with all of that? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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How? | |
| Enlighten me. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Started getting into. | ||
| I've got something here. | ||
| I've got something here. | ||
| What do you got there, Joseph? | ||
| This book that I've been reading. | ||
| It's called Breath. | ||
| It's by this guy James Nestor. | ||
| Fascinating shit on the importance of breathing exercises. | ||
| Really fascinating. | ||
| Really fascinating. | ||
| Breathing exercises for what? | ||
| For all sorts of things. | ||
| Well, you know, it's one of the things that Wim Hof has always said about breathing exercises, that you actually can enhance your immune system and, thank you, sir, regulate your metabolism. | ||
| This guy's an upcoming guest, so I just got into it last night. | ||
| But I'm fucking loving it. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| What'd you read about me before I came on? | ||
| I didn't read that you had a boxing career. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| I know you, man. | ||
| I don't have to read about you. | ||
| It only took us five podcasts to get there. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| I knew about your fights. | ||
| I'm pushing for the record. | ||
| Are you able to fully train right now? | ||
| What is the rules? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Not really, right? | ||
| My gym just opened back up. | ||
| Does everybody have to distance? | ||
| Hit a bag six feet apart from each other? | ||
| I think if you probably came in with a measuring tape, 90% of the time we are within that. | ||
| My gym is about 7,000 square feet and the average class is about 12 people in it. | ||
| Okay, so you've got a nice piece of property there. | ||
| And we have a huge roll-up door, so it's almost open air with the fans going and stuff. | ||
| But we take everybody's temperature before they come in. | ||
| We're not actually sparring or anything like that. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of gyms are starting to open up now and just kickboxing or shadowboxing and hitting the bags and things along those lines. | ||
| But it's been great for me getting back because I was starting to lose it there, I think, sometimes. | ||
| I'm stuck at home. | ||
| Were you working out at home? | ||
| I built a home gym and I was doing my thing and I was trying to run and stuff, but it's just not the same. | ||
| And then the students start coming back and You don't see how bad they were when they came back mentally, but you see over the course of like a week or two of them working out every day how much more they open up, how much more normal they seem, how much happier they are. | ||
| And then they start letting the hat out of the bag like, man, I was in a dark spot. | ||
| I've been having an absolute blast. | ||
| We have four classes a day. | ||
| I'm teaching all the classes right now, and I'm loving it. | ||
| I think that's a lot. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| I'm happy to hear that, and I'm happy to hear you're able to open again. | ||
| I think that's awesome. | ||
| That dark shit is no joke, man. | ||
| It's no joke. | ||
| Depression is a real fucking thing. | ||
| It's a big part of why people are so angry right now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because, you know, there's a lot of people out there that, you know, maybe they do spin or maybe they do whatever the fuck they've been doing. | ||
| They can't do it right now. | ||
| They can't do any of it. | ||
| And there's so many people that are losing their livelihood. | ||
| I think there's a lot of people that live corporate life or have normal jobs, and I'm not talking shit about that, but put yourself in someone's shoe. | ||
| They invested everything they owned, everything they had. | ||
| They put in all their work following this American dream, this dream, this whatever dream. | ||
| And for 14 years, 15 years, they invest everything in, and then this weird flu comes along and they can't do their business anymore. | ||
| Through no fault of their own. | ||
| Through no fault of their own. | ||
| And it's like, well, they should have had some money pushed aside or saved aside or whatever. | ||
| How come these giant, these airplane companies that have been making billions of dollars for years and years on end, they get a bailout? | ||
| Right. | ||
| They get the bailout. | ||
| But Lolita's fucking whatever fucked. | ||
| Well, the dirty secret is if they don't bail out the airlines... | ||
| The aliens are not gonna employ all those people, and then everyone's fucked even further. | ||
| So they look at that like, this is something we need, because we need it for business, we need it for people to be able to travel around, we need these planes running, we're not gonna be able to do it ourselves. | ||
| But the dirty secret is there's not enough money to fix everything. | ||
| There's not enough money to pay all the people, all the money that we're making during the time off. | ||
| And then my my uh shout out to my boy john thomas in ohio my buddy i went to high school with back in ohio he has a couple uh pizzerias and i think they're oh they're allowed to open back up now but his employees a lot of his employees aren't coming back to work because they make more money on unemployment than they ever did before and they have an excuse if they make more money on unemployment than they were actually earning working there and they don't have to go back to work because they could say they're scared of covid It's fucked. | ||
| Listen, I get it. | ||
| If I was one of those dudes, I'd be like, hey man, I don't want to die from cooking pizza, bitch. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| I don't want to get a... | ||
| Especially if you're a fat guy, and you're like, I could just hang out at home and play Call of Duty and get paid more? | ||
| Or risk my life to make pizza? | ||
| Fuck outta here. | ||
| I still just can't wrap my brain around people still buying into all this shit. | ||
| It is the fucking flu. | ||
| People die of the flu every year. | ||
| A lot of them die of the flu. | ||
| Our friend Eve Edwards was sick as fuck. | ||
| Was sick for like weeks at a time in and out of the hospital. | ||
| This is back in like December. | ||
| Now you're either telling me that COVID-19 was here before that or it's the flu. | ||
| But now when you get Now it's COVID-19, but then it was the flu. | ||
| My other friend was super sick. | ||
| They test his antibodies, though. | ||
| They test. | ||
| That's how they find out. | ||
| They do an antibody test. | ||
| And then they say, oh, you did have COVID-19. | ||
| But, look, I had a buddy of mine who came in here who was fucking convinced. | ||
| He's like, I know I had it. | ||
| I was so sick. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| He was like, what? | ||
| Or maybe he had a bad test. | ||
| He spread the other one. | ||
| Did you see the... | ||
| I'm going ham on this. | ||
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| Did you see the guy in Tanzania? | ||
| It's like the president of Tanzania. | ||
| No. | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| Oh, it's so good. | ||
| Jamie, you should look this up. | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| It's probably too long. | ||
| He's like the president of Tanzania and like Africa, right? | ||
| And it's got like super thick accent. | ||
| And he said, you know, something's going on here, people. | ||
| They sent us the COVID tests and... | ||
| We tested, we took 10 tests or however many tests and I took the dragon fruit and we tested the inside of the dragon fruit and we wrote Charles whatever and we tested it off and it was inconclusive and we took a goat And I tested the goat and I wrote his name was Sandra and she's 30 years old and works whatever and we tested her and she was positive. | ||
| And then I did another one with a chicken and it came back positive and did another one with a whatever and he tested all this random stupid shit and got like positive, positive, inconclusive. | ||
| Well inconclusive makes sense if you're testing fruit and positive might make sense if it's really contagious to animals. | ||
| If you're in an area that has a high concentration of people that have the disease, you just think it's just totally a scam. | ||
| It's a fucking scratch ticket. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| Guys, stop buying this bullshit. | ||
| This is bullshit. | ||
| What do you think those people are dying of? | ||
| Is this another cold? | ||
| I think it's a real bad flu, and it's flu season. | ||
| People are getting sick. | ||
| But you know that, but COVID-19, the thing, is a real thing. | ||
| I know it's a real thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I know that's a real thing. | ||
| So you know these people are dying in a way that's not consistent with dying from the flu, right? | ||
| Some of them are dying in real weird ways. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| You're fucking around in a little bit of a way. | ||
| I'm a little bit fucking around, and I'm a little bit... | ||
| But you're a little bit like, this is not that much different from the flu that we should have killed our society. | ||
| We killed the world's whole economy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The fucking whole world over a thing that kills less than 1% of people. | ||
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| And how do we get it back? | ||
| How do we get the world back? | ||
| How do we get it back to normal? | ||
| No one knows. | ||
| There's no road map. | ||
| No clue. | ||
| No one. | ||
| No one. | ||
| No clue. | ||
| And here's the thing, though. | ||
| This is one thing in support of those hardcore business folks. | ||
| They're the ones who want this shit back to normal more than anybody, right? | ||
| They're in deep shit right now. | ||
| That's why the economy's still doing so well. | ||
| That shows you how bullshit the economy is. | ||
| The stock market is doing great. | ||
| The stock market, there's days where the stock market's up. | ||
| I'm like, how? | ||
| Well, show me your math. | ||
| How is your stock market up? | ||
| There's so much fuckery going on. | ||
| And then it's like we're supposed to trust the who, right? | ||
| And the who says one thing and then the next day they say something else. | ||
| Well, first of all, let's call it the World Health Organization because the who is awesome. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Who are you? | ||
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Who, who, who, who? | |
| Come on, man. | ||
| I'm a child of the 80s. | ||
| The Who is... | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| They were kings. | ||
| The World Health Organization. | ||
| Fauci. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Those people. | ||
| Well, the saddest one was when he said that the only reason he told people not to wear masks is because we didn't have any. | ||
| You really should wear them. | ||
| How about the time he told them... | ||
| Well, then like a week later or a week after or before, he's like, oh, well, you know, masks don't actually work, but it just shows solidarity and it's a sign that we should do this. | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| And then the other chick does... | ||
| 90% of... | ||
| Half of all positive tests are false positives. | ||
| And this is normal. | ||
| Like, it's so much fuckery going on. | ||
| So much fuckery. | ||
| It's also they're learning on the job. | ||
| You know, they're trying to figure out what this thing is and isn't on the job. | ||
| And they can't just be honest. | ||
| You know, and say, you know, we made some mistakes. | ||
| This is what we thought. | ||
| Now we think differently. | ||
| But people died. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| You know, they can't say that. | ||
| People died in nursing homes that our government made them take sick people, whether it was the flu or whatever. | ||
| Not our government. | ||
| New York, right? | ||
| New York. | ||
| That's a dark choice, man. | ||
| And then Cuomo's brother is on CNN, like, I'm locking myself in my basement for 15 days and he gets caught. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Your whole family, bro. | ||
| Well, not only did he get caught, but he also did a video of him coming out of the basement for the first time. | ||
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| That's the worst thing of getting caught. | ||
| That was like you planted and made this fake scenario and your family's supposed to be all shocked when you come out of the basement for the first time in 14 days. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| That said, I've worked in television, and I guarantee you that was a producer's decision. | ||
| That was some network executive that wanted a video of him coming out, and they had already got it planned, and he just fucking jetted over to the Hamptons, check out a spot where he's going to build his dope house, and then came back and was like, okay, we're doing it. | ||
| I'm coming out of the basement. | ||
| Everybody knows. | ||
| I got in a fight with a guy on a bike. | ||
| Is that okay still? | ||
| Don't call me Fredo! | ||
| And so he goes up the stairs like, here I am! | ||
| Look at this! | ||
| I made it out of the basement! | ||
| I feel for him in that situation. | ||
| I feel for him because I guarantee you that was some jackass from the network that had this idea to have him come out of the basement and some sort of theatrical thing. | ||
| You were just deceitful or sneaky or whatever word it is to all of the viewers on TV. I don't feel bad for him. | ||
| You intentionally just tricked everybody on some fake shit. | ||
| They didn't have to do that. | ||
| They didn't have to do that. | ||
| Well, that's why podcasts work. | ||
| Because nobody's doing that kind of shit on podcasts. | ||
| They realize you don't have to. | ||
| You don't have to pretend. | ||
| Just say, yeah, I went to the Hamptons. | ||
| Probably shouldn't, but I stayed away from everybody. | ||
| My wife's already around me anyway. | ||
| And then some dude on a bike just came by and he was being a dick. | ||
| I was like, yeah, bro. | ||
| I'm just looking at my house spot. | ||
| I'm building a dope house, you bike-riding dick fuck. | ||
| If I survive this fake COVID shit, I'm going to fucking live right next door to you. | ||
| He was, you know, he was an interesting case, too. | ||
| Apparently he was saying at nighttime it gets really bad. | ||
| But when he was on television, he looked great. | ||
| Like, yeah, it's bad at night. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How about you go to bed earlier? | ||
| We don't really have it, but it's part of my thing. | ||
| Are you taking vitamins? | ||
| How come nobody said that, right? | ||
| Bro, how come that? | ||
| We've closed down gyms. | ||
| Nobody has talked about food, about the immune system, none of that. | ||
| That Dr. Shiva guy was saying a lot of cool stuff, but nobody's saying it, so it must be something weird going on there. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, he's a weird one. | ||
| I don't know if he's telling the truth or what the deal is. | ||
| I started like, some of the stuff doesn't make sense, and then it was like, you're obviously running for some kind of office or whatever. | ||
| Very smart, that's for sure. | ||
| Smart dude. | ||
| Very intelligent guy. | ||
| But, you know, if you're a person that questions any aspect of COVID, you're immediately pushed into this area of someone who can't be trusted, can't listen to them, gotta silence them. | ||
| You're a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Dude, they were saying that about Elon. | ||
| The Elon podcast never trended. | ||
| I'm not asking... | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| If it trends, if it doesn't... | ||
| I appreciate YouTube. | ||
| I appreciate this platform. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| When something gets 11 million downloads in a day, and there's a bunch of other videos that don't get nearly as much, but that one's not trending. | ||
| Why isn't it trending? | ||
| And how much that has to do with his opinions on things that aren't sanctioned. | ||
| And one of his opinions on things was the perspective on COVID, that keeping people locked up as a mandatory thing. | ||
| That is not good. | ||
| It's not what this country was founded on. | ||
| And we should quarantine people who are sick. | ||
| And he's smart as fuck. | ||
| And he made a lot of sense. | ||
| And people don't want to hear that because they want to hear Fauci tell you, wear a mask or don't wear a mask. | ||
| I mean, these people are health experts. | ||
| But we've proven that they've been wrong about multiple things. | ||
| Just in the two months they have been wrong and they have proven that they've been wrong in multiple things continuously. | ||
| Right, but if you have a video with Fauci and it gets 11 million views, that motherfucker will trend. | ||
| Guarantee. | ||
| I guarantee you. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| You shouldn't do that. | ||
| I shouldn't say you can't do that, because you obviously can and you did. | ||
| But you shouldn't do that, because it's not good. | ||
| The best way to figure out who's right, when someone, especially in retrospect, you know, hindsight's 20-20, but we're looking back three months at all the times and things that were wrong, all the mistakes that were made. | ||
| In January, the World Health Organization literally said it can't be transmitted from person to person according to China. | ||
| That's what they literally said. | ||
| They put it out on a tweet. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Give them that. | ||
| Everybody made mistakes. | ||
| But because of that, you can't silence people who have contrary opinions. | ||
| Because of the fact that you have all these people that are experts in their field that have made mistakes, You cannot discount someone who's clearly a fucking super genius who's also looking at this from an additional perspective. | ||
| Here's another perspective. | ||
| Why don't we just quarantine the people that are at risk? | ||
| Why don't we quarantine people who are overweight instead of the whole population? | ||
| Then, step two, let's figure out what the fuck this is and how to take care of it and take care of everybody. | ||
| But give people the opportunity if they choose to take a risk. | ||
| To take the risk. | ||
| You can't force them to tank their business. | ||
| I mean, maybe the hindsight is 20-20, but that sounds like a logical thing that should have been said from the jump. | ||
| Why do we have to make that a huge mistake? | ||
| This is why. | ||
| Because we thought it was going to be way worse. | ||
| We thought it was going to be worse than it is. | ||
| We thought it was going to burn through the population and kill 10% of everyone. | ||
| Sometimes those things happen, and sometimes they morph, right? | ||
| They evolve. | ||
| Viruses can change. | ||
| They can change as they're going from person to person, and they really believe that the virus that we got on the West Coast here is actually lighter than the virus they got on the East Coast. | ||
| They think the virus that came from Europe is probably more deadly. | ||
| And the virus that came here. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But there's a bunch of other factors that they never take into consideration. | ||
| You never hear people talking about vitamin D, going outside, taking care of yourself. | ||
| Those people on the other side, man, those people on the west coast, the east coast rather, they don't get any sun. | ||
| Do you ever live in New York? | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Been there though. | ||
| But yeah, I get that. | ||
| It gets dreary. | ||
| And they're just like right on top of each other. | ||
| And every subway, everything. | ||
| Think about the subway rail when you walk up the stairs. | ||
| Oh, gross. | ||
| And also in those subways, everybody's breathing everybody else's air. | ||
| There's no way around it. | ||
| You have to breathe their air. | ||
| But the big thing, like, you know, I lived in Boston. | ||
| I lived in Newton when I was a kid. | ||
| And I remember Newton was a nice place. | ||
| Beautiful, beautiful neighborhood. | ||
| But I remember the winter time was so depressing. | ||
| Just look up at the sky and it was just gray. | ||
| You couldn't see anything. | ||
| You couldn't see any sun. | ||
| I mean, the sun came through the clouds, but you never saw a blue sky. | ||
| Like, for months at a time, it was just gray. | ||
| And everybody would get bummed out and people would get real shitty with each other. | ||
| Did you notice when the quarantine first happened, like the first two weeks, it was just draining all day, every day. | ||
| My backyard was flooding. | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| And life is awful. | ||
| And then all of a sudden the sun came out. | ||
| And it was like, a couple days off. | ||
| It's not too bad, right? | ||
| Yeah, having a day off and it's raining sucks. | ||
| Awful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Awful. | ||
| But not that bad for us. | ||
| Because at least we can say, oh, we need this rain. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, this is a good rest day. | ||
| We need this rain. | ||
| We're in a drought right now. | ||
| It's real bad. | ||
| But if you live in Seattle... | ||
| Every day. | ||
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Bro. | |
| Every day. | ||
| Seattle, I love you people. | ||
| You guys are beautiful. | ||
| I love your attitude. | ||
| I don't like the Chaz situation. | ||
| I don't think that's wise. | ||
| But... | ||
| What's your thoughts on Chaz? | ||
| I just want to tell people in Seattle, get out. | ||
| Go. | ||
| Just go. | ||
| There's a reason why it's going crazy. | ||
| It's filled with homeless people. | ||
| Everyone's tired. | ||
| They're depressed. | ||
| You don't get any sunlight. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| You need sunlight. | ||
| That shit's terrible for you. | ||
| My take on the Chaz situation is... | ||
| They're doing exact... | ||
| I was talking about it with Coleon Noir the other day. | ||
| They're doing exactly the same thing they get mad at when they think about a country. | ||
| They put up walls. | ||
| They have borders. | ||
| They have police and enforcement. | ||
| They beat the fuck out of people. | ||
| There's been murders inside. | ||
| It's not all kumbaya. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| You just made a shittier, smaller version of a city. | ||
| Of course you did. | ||
| Of course you did. | ||
| But it's got borders. | ||
| A regular city, you can just drive in at Albuquerque. | ||
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They let you in. | |
| Jazz is like, fuck you. | ||
| We got border walls. | ||
| You can go to San Francisco and just drive in. | ||
| No one can come in here if we have a plastic barrier. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| They're LARPing. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| It's live action role-playing. | ||
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They're LARPing, for sure. | |
| That's what it is. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's what it is. | ||
| And they took over the city? | ||
| They took over the LARPers? | ||
| Well, they need to learn. | ||
| There's a thing that happens when a lot of these protesters get equated with progress. | ||
| Whether it's Antifa or any real Marxist, left-wing, progressive, socialist movement. | ||
| They have good intentions, right? | ||
| And they get lumped in with the idea of progress. | ||
| So people let them get away with stuff. | ||
| They think, oh, just... | ||
| It's going to work out. | ||
| It's going to work out. | ||
| But they don't have a real plan. | ||
| These folks don't have a long-term plan. | ||
| When Seattle gave them that, it's probably the most brilliant move ever. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| Oh, you think you can do better? | ||
| Why don't you go ahead? | ||
| It's like you have kids, right? | ||
| When your kid's like, I know how to tie my shoes. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| I can tie your shoes. | ||
| You stand there for a minute. | ||
| You want some help? | ||
| I'll help you, because you don't know how to tie your shoes. | ||
| This is how you do it. | ||
| You make the bunny ears, you go through the loop. | ||
| But sometimes you have to let a kid, particularly boys, I have all girls, but I would imagine with boys, even more so, they get a little stubborn. | ||
| I fucking know what I'm doing, Dad. | ||
| And you gotta go, oh, okay, do you? | ||
| Okay, Chaz, good luck. | ||
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Good luck. | |
| That was six blocks. | ||
| You guys had two murders inside of a fucking week. | ||
| I just don't understand how that happened. | ||
| I don't understand how the city just let it go. | ||
| I think it's like a publicity stunt. | ||
| I think the city is in charge of that. | ||
| There's a lot of them, man. | ||
| But they're not being overrun with guns and bombs and bullshit. | ||
| This is like, we're going to let these guys have it, and then we're going to let this fail. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| It just doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| It seems like a joke. | ||
| If you talk to people, my friend Rob Wolf reached out to me because some folks from the Seattle Police Department reached out to him. | ||
| They're trying to get their message out. | ||
| They're trying to figure it out. | ||
| And essentially they were saying that the media is not telling the true story. | ||
| And that the true story is every time, like the media will show them tear gassing people. | ||
| They don't say that they had set up boundaries and they said, you got to stay out of the precinct. | ||
| You got to stay out of this area. | ||
| You guys, you can't just invade. | ||
| And every time they put up these boundaries, they would push through, and then they had to use tear gas they felt to defend their position, and then they eventually had to give up the whole precinct. | ||
| Then they had to give up like six blocks. | ||
| And they don't feel like there's a lot of support for their position in the news, and they also don't feel like they're being given the freedom to defend it Properly like they really they couldn't they had to get out of there That's why they took that's why those people took it That's why it's still locked down today and the mayor has been saying lately It's time to go home now, but the mayor before gave a fucked up Answer of it like saying that peaceful protest has always been great. | ||
| Maybe this is the summer of love like oh, okay Good luck lady like these ideas they get connected with progress, right? | ||
| So those people who really want better, right? | ||
| They're angry that George Floyd got murdered, but we all are every Normal, rational persons angry. | ||
| They all want to fucking see change. | ||
| But we all do. | ||
| But they decided to see change in six blocks of Seattle that had nothing to do with George Floyd. | ||
| They just took over. | ||
| And they took over these buildings. | ||
| So they basically did what Columbus did. | ||
| They came and took over an area, but then they did what Trump did. | ||
| They put up a wall. | ||
| And then they did what those cops did. | ||
| They beat the fuck out of people. | ||
| I mean, they ruined their own idea within a couple of weeks. | ||
| So it really was like Seattle just going, Go ahead! | ||
| Oh, you know how to do better? | ||
| Oh, you're gonna do better? | ||
| Okay, go ahead. | ||
| And now they're like, it's time to go home. | ||
| But there's, you know, there's people in there that are armed. | ||
| It's not that simple. | ||
| I don't know how they think they're going to get these people out of there. | ||
| Because you can't even get homeless people out of San Francisco. | ||
| They've basically taken over Portland. | ||
| Portland's filled with tents. | ||
| San Francisco's nuts, man. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| You drive down the street in some neighborhoods in San Francisco, you see like multi-million dollar houses and there's five tents in front of the house. | ||
| You're like, what is this? | ||
| You can't litter. | ||
| You can't throw beer cans on the ground. | ||
| How come you can leave a tent and a fucking little camp stove and a cardboard box filled with bullshit? | ||
| And then everybody's just waiting for somebody else to come clean the tent out in front of their yard. | ||
| Everybody's waiting to fix the solution. | ||
| Joe, what would you do if there was three tents in front of your house? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I don't know what I'd do. | ||
| I don't want to go to jail. | ||
| I don't want to go to jail, so I don't know. | ||
| Probably hire somebody to clean it up. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| I wouldn't know what to do. | ||
| What is the law? | ||
| Can my kid not play in the yard? | ||
| Because someone threw a fucking heroin needle in the yard, and he's got a tent right there, and if you're in Venice, and you got this little tiny patch of grass where your kid can play, and your kid runs into a heroin needle that someone chucked over the fence... | ||
| But we have to be progressive. | ||
| We have to be nice. | ||
| And people equate... | ||
| No, bro, you go knock on the tent. | ||
| Hey, man, you can't have your tent here. | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| I'll fucking do what I want, bro! | ||
| No, no, I actually won't. | ||
| You're gonna get the fuck out. | ||
| You're gonna get the fuck out. | ||
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Listen, man! | |
| Nope, gotta go. | ||
| I'm a crack baby! | ||
| All right. | ||
| Later. | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| I'm looking at Seattle News. | ||
| They said they're gonna leave today. | ||
| There's like an official Capitol Hill occupied a protest zone that says it's concluded as of tonight. | ||
| And they expect some people to not actually leave, but they're saying it's over. | ||
| See, I think somebody else funded that. | ||
| I think that was a big joke. | ||
| Who do you think funded it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Probably somebody in a deep state or whatever. | ||
| The guys that fund all the other stuff think it was crazy, right? | ||
| The guys who throw Epstein witnesses out of buildings. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How does that money go around? | ||
| Who gets it? | ||
| It goes in Bitcoin. | ||
| They buy tacos with it. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think people are funding it and... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's so much shit going on. | ||
| I can't just blindly believe any of these narratives anymore. | ||
| It's just beyond to me. | ||
| It would be crazy if we found out there was some sort of a weird ulterior motive for letting them take over and that this has all been planned out in some sort of a strange way. | ||
| Some people think that this civil unrest and that even encouraging the spread of corona by letting people protest and not doing anything to stop it is actually some sort of a nefarious attempt to make sure that all the elections are mail-in ballots so they can monkey with them. | ||
| It does make sense if I was writing a Tom Clancy novel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| I don't know if it's true though. | ||
| Dude, I can barely pay attention to shit I do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My left switch kick's terrible. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, so much fat. | ||
| I got you, bro. | ||
| It moves too slow. | ||
| I got you, bro. | ||
| It's not too much of a weird, come off balance. | ||
| I'm concentrating on that. | ||
| I can't be concentrating on Chaz. | ||
| I like to step up over the switch. | ||
| We can work on that. | ||
| I'll tell you what, I'll show you that. | ||
| Why do you like to step up over the switch? | ||
| Because if we do the switch kick... | ||
| You're staring at me. | ||
| Scary time. | ||
| I'm staring at you. | ||
| We're about to fucking whatever. | ||
| And then you see me jump and switch my feet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know that something's coming. | ||
| You know it's coming. | ||
| But if I just step forward with my right foot, even if you tried to back up, I can make the adjustment because my foot is stepping. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Kevin Ross doesn't even switch. | ||
| But once I jump to switch, I'm stuck in that position. | ||
| Now I have to take an additional step if you back up. | ||
| But if I just walk forward and you move backwards, I can adjust my foot. | ||
| Some guys don't like to switch, right? | ||
| Some guys just blast it right from the front leg. | ||
| Kevin kind of does that a little bit. | ||
| I do that as well. | ||
| It just depends on the distance. | ||
| If the person's coming to me, then I can do that. | ||
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Right, and if they're moving away, then I walk. | |
| Makes sense. | ||
| What do you think about the low calf kick? | ||
| How crazy is that that's become so popular? | ||
| It wasn't like a thing, and then all of a sudden it's a thing. | ||
| It's like the best thing. | ||
| It's like a really effective thing. | ||
| My training partner, Bamba, we both had a—both of our last fights were on the same card, and that was like his thing. | ||
| He was like, I'm going to kick him in the calf, I'm going to kick him in the calf, I'm going to kick him in the calf. | ||
| And then he kicked me in the calf while we were sparring. | ||
| And I'm like, hey, bro, like, fucking don't do that. | ||
| Like, don't do that. | ||
| Like, stop doing that. | ||
| You know, my fucking shit. | ||
| It could ruin your shit. | ||
| Yeah, it'll really fuck you up. | ||
| It's not like a thigh kick where you can, like, catch a medium one and you're okay. | ||
| If somebody really slams into your calf, you're fucked. | ||
| And it happens by just being lazy with your block. | ||
| If you block correctly, it's fine. | ||
| But especially in a sparring situation, you're lazy with your block. | ||
| And then it hits that side of that calf, and it's a different bulging. | ||
| It fucks it up for a long time, too. | ||
| The nerve. | ||
| It's a weird feeling, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sucks. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Well, you saw the Michael Chandler one where his whole foot went numb. | ||
| That was insane. | ||
| Henry Cejudo versus Mighty Mouse, too. | ||
| The second fight, same thing. | ||
| Yeah, it shuts your foot off. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| And there's not much you can do about that. | ||
| He's a beast, huh? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| He's up there, too. | ||
| Undeniable. | ||
| He's up there. | ||
| I mean, you want to talk about some of the greats. | ||
| The guy's an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling, and then two-division UFC world champion. | ||
| And then smashed Dominick Cruz, smashed TJ Dillashaw, smashed Marlon Marais. | ||
| And a juiced up TJ Dillashaw. | ||
| EPO'd. | ||
| But starving to death. | ||
| Really, the EPO was just keeping him alive. | ||
| Bro, he looked worse on weigh-in day than anyone I've ever seen ever. | ||
| Next to Travis Luter. | ||
| But Travis Luter was just trying to dehydrate too much in one day. | ||
| TJ had eaten himself down to nothing. | ||
| And then dehydrated. | ||
| And then dehydrated himself. | ||
| He had eaten himself down to nothing. | ||
| Like, he let his body eat itself. | ||
| His cheeks were completely sunken in. | ||
| He looked like he was... | ||
| He was found in the woods. | ||
| That was for $35, right? | ||
| $25. | ||
| $25. | ||
| Yeah, so he was the 35-pound champion, went down to 25. He said he took EPO just to be able to train. | ||
| He couldn't do anything. | ||
| But, you know, it's hard to tell. | ||
| The alpha male guys are like, fuck you, you did. | ||
| Like, Cody Garbrandt in a press conference was saying, bro, you were always taking that shit. | ||
| So he didn't say it. | ||
| It's one of those things where it's like, when you get caught with something like that, your whole legacy gets thrown up in the air. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I mean, I wonder if they could retroactively test some of the samples. | ||
| If they kept the samples as long? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how long they keep them. | ||
| That's how they got Lance, right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Lance never popped while he was competing and was after the fact, right? | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| I don't know if they ever got him. | ||
| I think he had to confess. | ||
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Really? | |
| I don't believe they ever caught Lance. | ||
| I thought they took old samples and then did it. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| I felt like at the time when he quit, though... | ||
| That wasn't the case. | ||
| I felt at the time it was like the walls were closing in on him, and he had ex-teammates testifying. | ||
| Yeah, everybody was going at him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| But again, it's just, your whole sport's dirty. | ||
| Like, what are they doing now? | ||
| Are they just remarkably slower? | ||
| Like, what are they doing? | ||
| You got a juiced up sport. | ||
| If you keep the same times, I'm going to be super suspicious. | ||
| Yeah, what happened in that very next... | ||
| Especially if the next guy behind Lance that didn't juice was 27th or something. | ||
| Did the numbers just tack on an hour to every race? | ||
| I know. | ||
| I thought it was 18th, but you might be right. | ||
| But it's something crazy like that. | ||
| It's definitely top 10 or gone. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Top 15. We'll agree it's over top 15th. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's the old days of the UFC, too. | ||
| I mean, you want to go back to the old days of pride, for sure. | ||
| Ensign Inouye told me they told him on the contract, you will not be tested for steroids. | ||
| I think Eve told me that, too. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Big, bold letters. | ||
| Like, you will not be tested. | ||
| Big, bold letters. | ||
| They're like, have at it, boys. | ||
| And I think so could you. | ||
| I want to say it was so could you. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| One of those guys told me that after they got tested and pride, they would walk out. | ||
| If they got tested, that there would be just cups of piss all down the hallway after the fight. | ||
| Like, they didn't do anything with it. | ||
| Like, the guys peed in the cup and then they sat on the floor. | ||
| And down the hallway, it was just cups of pee all the way down. | ||
| Yeah, pee in this cup, please. | ||
| It's required. | ||
| Okay, thanks. | ||
| Yeah, we got it. | ||
| For nothing. | ||
| Yeah, we tested for drugs, man. | ||
| That turns out. | ||
| Tested their piss. | ||
| It just burned the results. | ||
| Clean as a whistle. | ||
| When you go and watch some of those fights where guys were just so juiced up, they let Bob Sapp fight at 375 pounds with abs. | ||
| With abs, bro. | ||
| And he's like an emotional wreck. | ||
| He starts crying. | ||
| When you're on that kind of juice, I would imagine your whole perspective and reality just gets thrown into the blender. | ||
| What kind of doses are those? | ||
| Are there just buckets of testosterone every week? | ||
| I wonder if he'd be clean. | ||
| He would tell you. | ||
| What were you doing during the Minotaur fight? | ||
| Tell me about those days. | ||
| Tell me about what was going on. | ||
| Krokop and his legs were just fucking enormous. | ||
| Meanwhile, Krokop smashed him. | ||
| Even when he was like fully on the shit. | ||
| Krokop dropped him. | ||
| All those guys were on the shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| All those guys. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that was the thing. | ||
| People got real mad at me when I questioned Fedor. | ||
| I'm like, well, listen, it's not like Russia hasn't been known to do shit like that before. | ||
| It's not exactly. | ||
| When it's in your contract that you're not testing and you're the GOAT heavyweight. | ||
| You're the GOAT. Did he come to the U.S., maybe not so much the GOAT anymore? | ||
| Yeah, not so much the GOAT anymore once they were testing, right? | ||
| Vanderlei, same thing. | ||
| But also years on the clock. | ||
| There's a lot of factors. | ||
| For sure, of course. | ||
| You know, when he was fighting Cro-Cop, the early days of Fedor versus Cro-Cop, it's hard to argue that he wasn't a GOAT. He's one of those guys, like, in the heavyweight division, there was a few years when Randallman picked him up and slammed him and then he comored him right afterwards. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There were some fights, man, when you go, like, that guy's the best. | ||
| He's the fucking best. | ||
| Randallman used to be a terrifying dude, too. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| Remember him jumping up and down across the cage? | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| Can you imagine? | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
| This dude's a gorilla. | ||
| He had so much athleticism. | ||
| He was so fast and so powerful. | ||
| He knocked out Krokop. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Left hook. | ||
| Stepped in. | ||
| Faked like a takedown. | ||
| Cracked him with a left hook. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| And then finished him off on the ground with nasty hammer fists. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| I mean, that's like the kickboxer transitioning to MMA's biggest problem, right? | ||
| Fake to take down, hands down. | ||
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There's been a lot of those. | |
| Yep, there's been quite a few of those. | ||
| And Randleman was like, he was so perfect for that role because he was the wrestler who was a stud wrestler but also had crazy speed and power with his punches. | ||
| Crazy closing the distance power, you know? | ||
| Like Woodley. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You go like the Woodley-J Heron fight, or Carlos Condi. | ||
| Or the Woodley and Robbie Lawler fight. | ||
| Oh yeah, perfect example. | ||
| His ability to close distance and hit the target is second to none. | ||
| Oh my god, yeah. | ||
| He would throw bombs, man. | ||
| What a fucking career that guy had. | ||
| Has had. | ||
| But how good did Gilbert Burns look, man? | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| I'm a big fan of Gilbert Burns. | ||
| He's a stud. | ||
| Before the fight, I was like, man, I really like Woodley, but I think Gilbert Burns. | ||
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And everybody's like, no, Woodley for sure, Woodley for sure. | |
| If you see the Gilbert Burns that knocked out Damian Maia, and you realize, like, man, this guy is no joke on the ground. | ||
| Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion, and he's got that sneaky left hook. | ||
| And also, like, this is a giant opportunity for him. | ||
| Woodley's an all-time great. | ||
| If Woodley retires right now, he goes down the books as one of the all-time great UFC champions. | ||
| Definitely top three welterweights of all time. | ||
| Or top four. | ||
| Plus there's a big difference in a former champion and an up-and-coming guy that's starting to see the light that there is a fucking title right there. | ||
| I can get to this. | ||
| I've been in those positions and that dude's a dangerous, dangerous dude when they haven't gotten there yet versus a guy that's still trying to keep it. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
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That's Burns. | |
| That team, Sanford MMA with Henry Hooft. | ||
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Woo! | |
| So you've got a jujitsu monster, Phenom, and he's working with high-level strikers every day. | ||
| What's crazy is like... | ||
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Oh, man, he's such a kill streak. | |
| What's crazy is like, he really didn't strike until like just a few years ago. | ||
| I mean, I don't know how many years he's been fighting now, but before that, like, just had to learn how to strike. | ||
| He was a jujitsu guy. | ||
| He doesn't have like a background in kickboxing, but when you watch him fight, he's all about striking. | ||
| Really good. | ||
| Dude, did him drop Woodley like that in the first round and swarm him? | ||
| Like, fuck, man. | ||
| And his pace? | ||
| Keeps up that pace for five fucking rounds. | ||
| Hard. | ||
| Well, then between UFC fights, he's doing grappling. | ||
| He's still competing at high-level grappling tournaments and stuff. | ||
| That's a dangerous move, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a dangerous move. | ||
| When Cub Swanson blew his knee out, that quintet, I was like, oh no. | ||
| And against Jake Shields, I'm like, hey dude, Jake Shields is huge. | ||
| He's a lot bigger than you, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he got, did you see it? | ||
| I did, I didn't see it. | ||
| It was in a leg lock position. | ||
| I think it was like reaping. | ||
| Oh, that's terrible. | ||
| They were stuck in this bad position and Cub's knee exploded. | ||
| Yeah, it's just a bad grappling matchup. | ||
| I mean, I know Cubs a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, but Jake is big. | ||
| He's a big guy, and he's fucking strong, and he has a long career as a competitive Jiu-Jitsu player. | ||
| If you're a cub and you're, like, just doing real good, like, you've had some wicked fights and you got a lot of momentum, and then you blow your fucking knee out in this grappling competition, you're like, shit. | ||
| And he's, like, 35, I think, in that range. | ||
| Like, that's a bad time to get injured like that. | ||
| And if you look at it, like, I'm a fighter and I'm doing this grappling tournament as, like, a thing. | ||
| A fun thing. | ||
| It's a fun thing. | ||
| Then you have to go in there, like, if I have caught in a position and this is not going well, I have to know that I'm a fighter, not a... | ||
| Yes, you gotta be willing to tap. | ||
| Or at the end of the day, you're just sitting there like, what a fuck. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Fuck, why'd I do that? | ||
| Yeah, there was a lot of jujitsu guys. | ||
| In that thing. | ||
| There's something about those leg locks, too. | ||
| It's like a scary way to get hurt. | ||
| Because you're like, yikes, that's gonna be a bad one. | ||
| You know, when you see someone get heel hooked and they're not tapping quick enough and you see that look in their face like, ah! | ||
| You're like, oh, you ain't recovering from that one for a long-ass time. | ||
| Now everybody's like training leg locks now. | ||
| That's like a newer thing, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've been training with Eddie a bunch lately, and it's like getting used to just the Tim Planet style of jiu-jitsu is so different. | ||
| And then like the lockdown every five seconds on my leg, I gotta deal with that. | ||
| And then everybody's constantly going for leg locks all the time. | ||
| I've trained in a lot of teams in a lot of ways over the years with jiu-jitsu, and it's just... | ||
| It's a real issue. | ||
| Because there's not like a lot of room for defense in certain spots, right? | ||
| Heel hook spots, like inside heel hooks, bro, you got very little time to make a decision there. | ||
| Are you going to roll out of this or are you just going to tap now and preserve your shit? | ||
| Because you might get ripped apart. | ||
| And then Eddie's warm-ups, we have to like, you know, I'm sure you know, like the A's and the B's and C's. | ||
| There's like, I think it was C that we were doing. | ||
| Maybe it was B. But it was like knee, knee bar, ankle lock, knee bar, like foot, foot, foot, these things. | ||
| And that's just the warm-up of the thing. | ||
| These guys are constantly working on those specific, you know, style of jiu-jitsu around the leg locks, foot locks and ankle locks and It's a crazy time. | ||
| And if you look at the professional jiu-jitsu scene, if you look at the top of the food chain like the Gordon Ryans and Craig Jones and guys of that nature, they're all known for having nasty leg locks. | ||
| Well, Craig is an Australian guy, but Gordon Ryan, Gary Tonin, who's now a 1FC guy. | ||
| Oh, he made his debut? | ||
| Yeah, he's fought several times. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| Yeah, he's fought several times. | ||
| He's undefeated in MMA. Awesome. | ||
| Yeah, he's doing really good. | ||
| It is a big deal. | ||
| Because, you know, whenever a guy like you, who's a world champion in kickboxing, or a guy like him, who's a world champion in grappling, makes his way into MMA, the advantage of your specialty is significant. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like when you're standing up with someone, your advantage for most guys against you is pretty significant. | ||
| You know, if you were just having a kickboxing fight, it would be very significant. | ||
| So that's the same thing with grappling with a guy like Tonin, man. | ||
| He has a hold of your shit. | ||
| You got real problems, man. | ||
| He's sneaky. | ||
| Quick. | ||
| Quick. | ||
| Did you ever see that video where it was, I think it was in Abu Dhabi, where he hit this dude with a scissor sweep right into a heel hook and like... | ||
| Tapped him in 15 seconds. | ||
| He just threw his body weight sideways and fell right into the heel hook and was immediately cranking on it. | ||
| And I feel like he has a couple of those. | ||
| This is his forte. | ||
| Well, he's so good defensively. | ||
| This is not it, but this is similar. | ||
| He did it on this guy, too. | ||
| That's in just a grappling competition. | ||
| I think he's done it in MMA as well. | ||
| But he's so good defensively that he's not really worried about you catching him when you go to the ground. | ||
| So he'll do wild shit to get to the ground, like dive into a flying scissor. | ||
| Because he's like, look, once we go to the ground, my level is so high in comparison to most guys, I can just get away with getting to the ground in weird spots. | ||
| The confidence, even if I get in a weird spot, I'm going to still end up in a better position. | ||
| Yeah, this is right here. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I mean, come on, man. | ||
| This dude tries to roll. | ||
| He's like, tap, tap. | ||
| I mean, that is nasty, man. | ||
| He falls right into it. | ||
| Right into it. | ||
| Bam! | ||
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Ah! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That feeling of feeling your shit separate inside your knee, and you're like, oh, goddammit. | ||
| And it's so quick. | ||
| It's so quick. | ||
| Do I even bother trying to figure out what it is? | ||
| No, get the fuck off me. | ||
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Stop, stop, stop. | |
| Get off me, bitch. | ||
| Stop, stop, stop. | ||
| And some guys would just let them rip their knee apart. | ||
| There was a Gary Tonin, A.J. How do you say his last name? | ||
| Agazam, who's also very talented. | ||
| And Gary Tonin had him in the craziest knee bar, where his knee was just fucked. | ||
| Just bent completely out of place. | ||
| And he didn't tap. | ||
| He just let him fuck his knee up. | ||
| It's nasty to watch, too. | ||
| And then he's out for over a year or something? | ||
| I don't think he was out for that long, believe it or not. | ||
| I think he just dealt with the fact that his shit was ripped up. | ||
| Shoutouts to him. | ||
| He had a wild... | ||
| Bellator fight. | ||
| Bellator. | ||
| Well, his first one was like fucking... | ||
| Everybody was ragging on him. | ||
| He had a bunch of stupid faces. | ||
| Didn't work out well. | ||
| But his last fight... | ||
| They gave him a tough guy that was part of that tournament. | ||
| And man, he really brought it. | ||
| It was good. | ||
| He really brought it. | ||
| It was an awesome fight. | ||
| It was really good. | ||
| He's super talented on the ground. | ||
| Really good. | ||
| And again, in comparison, he can hang in there with guys like Tonin. | ||
| In comparison to the average MMA fighter, he's going to have a significant advantage. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| See if you can find that Gary Tonin taps out. | ||
| His name is tough to say. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| So look. | ||
| Look how bad his knee is. | ||
| Dude, look at that. | ||
| That is so bad. | ||
| That is so bad. | ||
| Look how far back that's going. | ||
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Mmm. | |
| Mmm. | ||
| And Aghazam just handles it. | ||
| Just deals with it. | ||
| He's like, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Break my shit. | ||
| Like, he's literally letting him fuck his knee up. | ||
| Look how bad. | ||
| Let me see that one more time. | ||
| Look how bad that thing has bent. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Bro, that's bad. | ||
| That's really big. | ||
| Look how far it is past straight. | ||
| Ouchie! | ||
| And look how red Gary's face is. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Gary's trying to murder everyone he's ever met. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's bending the wrong way. | ||
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Yeah, his foot is coming toward his head. | |
| I almost couldn't tell. | ||
| I know, because it seems like he should be facing the other direction, and it's bending backwards. | ||
| And he's even posting off of his own shit, trying to get more off of that, like how red his face is. | ||
| He's going for that. | ||
| Yeah, his knee is getting ripped apart there. | ||
| AJ's head is going this way and his foot is going that way. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Super duper not good. | ||
| And he's like, fine, fucking fine. | ||
| Lifts his hands up, fine. | ||
| Some people are just tough, man. | ||
| They can handle getting their leg ripped apart. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| Jon Jones did it against Vitor. | ||
| Vitor ruined his arm. | ||
| Ruined his arm. | ||
| Vitor got him in a full-on arm bar, fully hyperextended. | ||
| And Jon's like, fuck you. | ||
| I'm not tapping. | ||
| You can do whatever you want with that thing. | ||
| I got this one over here. | ||
| Remember Tim Slivy and his arm snapped in half? | ||
| Yes, Frank Mir. | ||
| Frank Mir. | ||
| And then the only person that saved his entire fucking career was Herb Dean. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Herb Dean was like, hey, hey, hey, your arm's broken. | ||
| He's like, come on, bro. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, let me fight. | ||
| And, you know. | ||
| You commentated that one. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| And you were like, oh, something's going on here. | ||
| And they watched the video and you're like, oh. | ||
| Well, the audience was booing. | ||
| And so I said, you got to show these people the video. | ||
| We got to see this video. | ||
| And, you know, the audience was booing. | ||
| And then they put it up on the big screen. | ||
| And then when they put it up on the big screen, the moment you see it snap, people went, oh! | ||
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You hear it through the whole crowd like, oh! | |
| It was the worst broken arm I've ever seen up to that point. | ||
| Someone else had a nasty one in the UFC. I can't think of it. | ||
| It was like a spiral fracture. | ||
| Minotaro versus Frank Mir. | ||
| Frank Mir got him into Kimura. | ||
| Minotaro didn't tap. | ||
| And he just... | ||
| You heard it, too. | ||
| You heard it. | ||
| Pactarina. | ||
| You hear... | ||
| And you see him sitting there looking at it like... | ||
| Yeah, look at him. | ||
| Look at him looking at it like... | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| Have you ever hit somebody with that and torn their shit? | ||
| No. | ||
| I did when I was... | ||
| That was a long time ago. | ||
| But I was... | ||
| I had somebody in a Kimura and they were like an upper belt and just didn't think that they were stuck. | ||
| You could get them? | ||
| They thought it was whatever. | ||
| And I don't even know if it was like about me. | ||
| He was just not going with the Kimura sweep. | ||
| It might even have been a sweep. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| And he like just refused the sweep. | ||
| And his joint ripped and it sounded like if you took like a terrycloth towel and just pulled it apart and he's like... | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| And that gave me nightmares for weeks. | ||
| It's always in my head. | ||
| Because it's right over you, right? | ||
| It's right in your ear. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| Feel the tendons ripping apart. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| I don't know if I can make that sound. | ||
| Something like that, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's the rough thing about Jiu-Jitsu, man. | ||
| If you break something, you're like, well, now I'm out for six months. | ||
| If I'm lucky. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the ego gets involved, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem. | ||
| There's a lot of ego in jujitsu. | ||
| Oh, for sure, man. | ||
| You don't want to let it go. | ||
| I always try to go into, like, especially when I'm... | ||
| I go to a lot of different jiu-jitsu gyms. | ||
| I'm not a long-term guy, right? | ||
| So it's like, oh, that's Joe Schilling. | ||
| I go in with no ego, and there's always a guy that's going to go extra super hard. | ||
| This is his big moment, you know? | ||
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Yeah, that is a problem. | |
| These motherfuckers and their big moments. | ||
| And I'm like, bro, I know this is your big day, but it's just like my Tuesday afternoon. | ||
| But that is the problem with a professional fighter always training with civilians. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You're not vetting these people. | ||
| They're like, there might be bad cops. | ||
| Bad cops are allowed to train jiu-jitsu, too. | ||
| If you're in a fucking place and there's a guy who has that bad cop mentality and he happens to be a brown belt... | ||
| Bro, I'm so scared to get pulled over. | ||
| I'm not even lying. | ||
| Let's just give the cops some love. | ||
| You want good cops. | ||
| We want good cops. | ||
| Cops are important. | ||
| And I know there's a lot of them. | ||
| I think there's more good cops than bad. | ||
| I really believe that. | ||
| I think it's just an insanely hard job. | ||
| And I think they're held to a standard that they should be held to because it's a life or death situation. | ||
| But... | ||
| It's a standard where your entire job is you're dealing with conflict. | ||
| Conflict is very rare for people, right? | ||
| For regular people, not like you, you fight. | ||
| You're pretty good at conflict. | ||
| But for regular folks, they don't come into physical conflict on a regular basis. | ||
| It's very rare. | ||
| For a cop, it's every day! | ||
| You're overloading your system. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So if you have this guy who's already a little wacky, and then you put him into an everyday conflict situation, and then he's got seven years on the job, who knows how nuts that guy is by the time he does something stupid. | ||
| Which is why we just need to start the process with, are you okay with conflict? | ||
| Let's go down the list. | ||
| You can't even ask them. | ||
| You can't ask them. | ||
| You've got to make them carry the boat. | ||
| I think they should all go through BUDS training. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Any kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, find out if they're exceptional. | ||
| Find out if there's something about them that separates them from a regular person. | ||
| Well, if not, well guess what? | ||
| Having a gun and a fucking badge and the ability to pull somebody over and tell them what to do and shoot people, that takes you out of the realm of a normal person. | ||
| If you want to be a non-normal person, you have to show the qualifications of a non-normal person. | ||
| And I think most of them can do it. | ||
| They could do it. | ||
| And if they listen to Jocko, they let Jocko Willing take over the training and just make sure everybody does 20% training, we can radically reduce a lot of the interactions with people that are negative. | ||
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Radically! | |
| And then we can overshadow it with good stories of cops doing good things and change the perspective. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But right now, everybody needs to see there's a problem so they can be fixed. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They do need to see that. | ||
| And that's why even the people that are mad and they don't like you now and they're pissed off at you, I hope they understand your perspective. | ||
| And that's why I wanted to... | ||
| First of all, I love you. | ||
| So I wanted to have you on because I always love seeing you. | ||
| But I wanted to have you on because I know that this means something to you. | ||
| This is not just like some celeb cause, like we were talking about that goofy video that those people made. | ||
| You know, like, I'm gonna be held accountable. | ||
| I'm gonna part of the problem. | ||
| No, you're doing that not for the likes. | ||
| You're losing people, man. | ||
| I know people are falling off you and they're mad at you. | ||
| But you're doing it because it means something to you. | ||
| And you actually care and you want people to know. | ||
| Like, this is a fucking real problem. | ||
| And it's a problem with black people for sure. | ||
| It's also a problem with just people. | ||
| This better not get lost in this conversation, this message. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I'm down with police reform everywhere, for sure. | ||
| Whether it's Black Lives Matter or whatever's happening. | ||
| We need some police reform. | ||
| We need them to be held accountable. | ||
| They need to be held accountable for women, for old men, for everybody. | ||
| You can't just do that. | ||
| You can't just behave that way. | ||
| They need to be held accountable. | ||
| I think some of us are based, just like the coronavirus, probably you could say the same thing, because I haven't encountered it, I don't think it's real. | ||
| Just like people haven't encountered an asshole cop, which I find hard to believe, or racism, that it's not real. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, white people that discount racism are the most hilarious. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Well, that's easy to say. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| The idea that it doesn't exist is pretty silly and the idea that all cops are good is also pretty silly. | ||
| All people are not good. | ||
| It's too hard. | ||
| It's too hard to be a person. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| And people need checks and balances. | ||
| Every level of every job anybody has to have some accountability. | ||
| Has to have some checks and balances. | ||
| We can't have a government that nobody gets any checks and balances. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Every news channel all the time back checks and talks shit about every tweet that the president makes or anybody. | ||
| We're constantly doing that. | ||
| Why do we just blindly just believe that the police don't ever make mistakes? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And if we want to all admit that they have a bad, a hard job or whatever, that's just as much more reason that we should all be checking in on them and making sure that they're not going fucking apeshit. | ||
| Well said. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You're not a bad guy, Joe Schilling. | ||
| You just want people to be held accountable. | ||
| I just want them to be held accountable. | ||
| Because you're a bad motherfucker and you want bad motherfuckers to be cops. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Not bitch-ass dudes. | ||
| Not bitch-ass dudes. | ||
| That's what it is, right? | ||
| Straight up, yeah. | ||
| It's really clear. | ||
| That's a respectful position. | ||
| I was talking to my buddy about it. | ||
| Can you imagine being scared? | ||
| You have to go pull this person over. | ||
| And we think that cop's probably a pussy. | ||
| That's why he did it. | ||
| But if he knows he's a pussy... | ||
| He knows he's a pussy walking to the car. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's what we're dealing with. | ||
| These are the guys we're giving the guns to. | ||
| Not all of them, but some of them. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's so important. | ||
| It's like one of the things you would tell people if you were talking to a kid and he was like, do you think I should do martial arts for self-defense? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| No, you're a pussy. | ||
| It's not cut out for it. | ||
| Like, straight up. | ||
| I don't mean those people. | ||
| No, but there are those people. | ||
| It's the same honesty. | ||
| A lot of those guys go into Jiu-Jitsu and they wind up strangling folks. | ||
| Yeah, well, good. | ||
| Jiu-Jitsu's different, man, because you don't have to get punched. | ||
| Guys can get really good. | ||
| There's something about, like, you would admit to this, right? | ||
| There's people that get good at jiu-jitsu that would never get good at striking. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because you actually practice Jiu Jitsu without getting hit in the face, whereas you're not going to actually get good at striking unless you're getting struck, which is very difficult. | ||
| You've got to go into the danger zone, son. | ||
| You can stay out of the danger zone with Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| You can do live drills. | ||
| You can do a lot of things, but sparring is sparring. | ||
| And the first time some guy fucking punches you in the face and you see stars and your nose starts running and your eyes are watering. | ||
| You're like, oh my god. | ||
| Because I can make you look great on the pads. | ||
| I could teach you the fitness. | ||
| You could have the body. | ||
| You could have shadow box. | ||
| You could do all of that. | ||
| When that shit happens. | ||
| When that shit happens, it's real. | ||
| And in jujitsu, you get to go again. | ||
| In jiu-jitsu, a guy catches you. | ||
| We all get caught. | ||
| A guy gets you in an arm bar. | ||
| Okay, tap. | ||
| And you can go right again. | ||
| If someone flatlines you, you're fucked for the day. | ||
| This is not a normal thing for your body to experience. | ||
| And you can't necessarily point that... | ||
| Out, at least not when they walk into the gym, right? | ||
| You train them for a whole fight. | ||
| That's what I tell my fighters all the time, is your first like 10 fights, I have no idea. | ||
| I have a hoping what you're going to do, but I don't know, right? | ||
| Because we'll be there in the smoker fight. | ||
| Warm up good, eat good, cut weight good, you're good, everything you're saying is great, and then you get out there in front of the lights and it's just not for you, it's not your time, it's not your moment. | ||
| Or you could be a Justin Gaethje who can somehow or another ignore those lights. | ||
| There's dudes that just ignore those lights. | ||
| They don't mean shit. | ||
| That guy comes out and just looks at it like this. | ||
| Just dead-faced. | ||
| He's not freaking out. | ||
| Daniel Rodriguez, same thing. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Like ice cold. | ||
| Yeah, he looks like a guy who would be ice cold. | ||
| Ice cold. | ||
| Those guys excel. | ||
| Those guys excel because how much of a factor is dealing with the anxiety? | ||
| The first time I cornered him for a fight, he let go, warm up, warm up. | ||
| Everybody, every fighter is a little different. | ||
| Some guys like long warm-ups, some guys are panicking to death. | ||
| Like, we just keep an eye and see what's going on. | ||
| So it's the first time, but I'm not sure what he's gonna do. | ||
| We're warming him up, and it's like, alright, you got like 10 minutes before the next fight. | ||
| And he's like, I'm like, you need anything else? | ||
| I'm like, no, I'm cool, chillin'. | ||
| He sits down, he gets on his phone, and he's like, just looking at the phone, swiping through and shit, and I'm like, and the commission comes, like, okay, you're next up, and he's like, alright, cool, and he's just bumping through his bum, like nothing's happening. | ||
| How long did he warm up? | ||
| Oh, we did probably like 15-20 minutes. | ||
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| And we got a good spike going, got the first little bit out, but he was just chilling. | ||
| And I'm like noticing what's going on, and I don't want to like make a scene, but I like went in his ear and I was like, hey man, this shit you're doing right now is like, it's cool as fuck and all that, but like just make sure you turn the switch when it's time to go. | ||
| And he like looked at me like, yeah, I got it. | ||
| And sure enough, he did it, right? | ||
| He just smokes the guy, and the guy had way more experience than him. | ||
| This was a small local show. | ||
| Then after the fight, we go to the bar, and he's got all his friends and family there and shit. | ||
| And he's having a few drinks, and he puts his arm around me. | ||
| He was like, hey man, you know what you were saying? | ||
| Make sure I turn the switch. | ||
| I was like, yeah. | ||
| He's like, man, I've been to jail a lot. | ||
| Like a lot. | ||
| And I've fought a lot of people. | ||
| He's like, I don't get nervous when I fight one person. | ||
| And I was like. | ||
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We got a winner. | |
| We got a winner here, folks. | ||
| And then I was like, okay, we'll see about this. | ||
| But his UFC debut, I'm going to forget the guy. | ||
| He fucking fought. | ||
| He fought a really good guy from New Mexico, South Paul. | ||
| Don't remember it. | ||
| Man, I can't believe I'm not remembering his name. | ||
| Pull it up! | ||
| Young Jamie? | ||
| Man, the guy deserves a lot of respect. | ||
| He's a really tough dude. | ||
| He's almost like a gatekeeper, so to speak. | ||
| And D-Raw took it on like two weeks' notice and went in there. | ||
| And same thing. | ||
| He's like, warms up, real laid back. | ||
| He's like damn near sleeping in the locker room. | ||
| They're like, you're up next. | ||
| He's like, all right, cool, whatever. | ||
| And he's like totally ice cold. | ||
| Then we walk out for the fight, and after they check your nails and mouthpiece and all that, you have a moment. | ||
| Everybody always hugs, which I think is weird, like you're going off to battle or something. | ||
| But he turns around, and I was like, hey man, it's a big show. | ||
| Just take it all in. | ||
| You got this, whatever. | ||
| I'm like, what's the game plan? | ||
| He's like, fuck this dude up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you want to see? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was like, but how are we going to do that? | ||
| And he's like, kind of like, so I'm going to move my feet. | ||
| I'm going to pick the angles, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But he was just ice cold. | ||
| And then he stops the dude. | ||
| It was a phenomenal performance. | ||
| I'm like, that guy. | ||
| Is a rare breed when it comes to staying calm under pressure. | ||
| It's almost like prisons cross-fitting. | ||
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Cross-training. | |
| Who's he got here? | ||
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Tim Means. | |
| Tim Means is very good, man. | ||
| Very, very good. | ||
| Standing guillotine. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| Tim Means is very good. | ||
| And he's very sneaky. | ||
| On short notice. | ||
| Debut, short notice, and you're dealing with a guy who has an insane amount of competition under his belt. | ||
| I mean, Tim Means is a fucking real world-class fighter. | ||
| D-Rod's the truth. | ||
| Yeah, there's guys like that out there, but it almost is like cross-training. | ||
| Like prison is like mental cross-training, you know? | ||
| I mean, you think of dealing with confrontation, believing in yourself, showing up like, I'm not a bitch, you know what I mean? | ||
| That's a lot of that. | ||
| If you get a guy, and he comes to jiu-jitsu, and he comes from gymnastics, you're like, oh, shit. | ||
| You've never done jiu-jitsu ever? | ||
| Dude, you're going to get good quick. | ||
| You're a gymnast. | ||
| If you get some guy who does the rings, imagine how good he's going to be at jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Pop my horse, dude. | ||
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Yes! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| One of those motherfuckers? | ||
| How good is that going to be? | ||
| He's pushing off hips and shit? | ||
| And that's kind of the same way you would think about a guy who's been in a lot of street fights and prison fights. | ||
| Like, the anxiety aspect of fighting. | ||
| As long as you have the athletic aspect as well. | ||
| But having that anxiety alleviation of knowing how to keep your shit together. | ||
| It's like when someone else is having an anxiety attack or aspect to deal with and someone else feels right at home. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Not even the opposite of that. | ||
| Feels good. | ||
| He's happy. | ||
| And sees it. | ||
| Sees it. | ||
| It's fucking terrifying. | ||
| Bad place to be. | ||
| Joe Schilling. | ||
| We did three hours already. | ||
| Time flies. | ||
| Time flies. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Don't feel in any way like you said anything negative. | ||
| You are 100% right. | ||
| Everything you said, all that shit you put on your Instagram, it doesn't mean you're a bad person or you're anti-cop. | ||
| You just don't want to see the disgusting shit that you keep posting over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, man, I just want everybody that are my people, which is all people that are in the United States, to land of the free, home of the brave, all the shit that we grew up on thinking this country's supposed to be. | ||
| Let's stick to that. | ||
| Let's hold each other accountable to that. | ||
| Yeah, and don't defund the police. | ||
| Please. | ||
| But they don't need tanks either. | ||
| They probably don't need tanks. | ||
| Goodbye, everybody. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Good night. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| That was good. |
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