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June 9, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1488 - Andrew Schulz
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
So you were asking.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
By the time I came around, Missy Shore was already in an advanced stage.
She was older, and she had some health issues, and so she wasn't banging comics at that point.
andrew schulz
But there was a time.
joe rogan
There was a time when she was the boss woman, and she would grab comedians.
And Jimmy Schubert talked about it.
He was like 21 years old, wanted to be a comic.
All of a sudden, he's banging Mitzi Shore, like, yikes!
andrew schulz
Do we know anybody...
Famous, famous?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know who's talking about it.
I know Jimmy talked about it in Argus.
andrew schulz
Robin Williams.
joe rogan
Argus talked about it.
I have no idea.
But it's a part of, the reason why I'm saying it is because it's a part of the Comedy Store documentary that they're putting out.
andrew schulz
I mean, she is a joint.
joe rogan
She was an animal.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
She's a pretty girl.
joe rogan
She also was the most important figure in comedy outside of comedians.
By running that store that way and letting all those people just be buck wild and have this crazy creative environment.
That's where Kinison erupted from.
That's where Richard Pryor used to work out there and Bill Hicks started there.
So many people were there in their early days.
andrew schulz
Why do you think that it could flourish that way?
joe rogan
Because of her.
andrew schulz
But how did it make money?
Did she have money?
joe rogan
Well, there was a lot of great comedy, right?
So you've got to think, you've got Richard Pryor there, you've got David Letterman there, you've got Tim Thomas.
There was a giant cast of great comedy that came out of that club.
And it was a cultural landmark and still is a cultural landmark in Hollywood.
So there's money to be made there.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that was the roaring days of the 80s where it was packed all the time.
And then there was like a drop off.
But now it's when we get to open again, it'll be packed again.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like before the pandemic, it was probably the best it's ever been doing.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I mean, I would go in there and it was insane.
All three rooms packed.
I mean, just comics everywhere.
The vibe was right.
It's a real shame.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
It's a real shame.
joe rogan
It is a real shame, but it's just one part of the real shame of all this craziness that's been going on for the last few months.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And now, we were just talking about it before, like there's all these articles now about how doctors are saying that the people that come into them are less sick than they ever were before.
Yeah.
In Italy, rather, they're saying there's such a small amount of virus, it's almost undetectable.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's run through the country.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
unidentified
It's hot out.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
You think that's all it was?
So Trump was right.
Trump said it was going to go away without any cure.
And then it did.
joe rogan
It would, but it would have killed more people.
I don't know how many more people, though.
I don't know if there could have been a better strategy.
andrew schulz
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
The problem is we're Monday morning quarterbacking.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's like after the fact, we're going, oh, this is what we should have done.
joe rogan
Bro, I thought we were all going to die.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I didn't think we were going to die, but like...
I thought it could have gotten kind of bad a little bit.
I made a few phone calls to friends.
I was like, you know, go stock your fridges.
We might be in the crib for a little bit.
joe rogan
The only thing that helped me was Idris Elba.
andrew schulz
Why would he say?
joe rogan
Because he got it and he was fine.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
I was like, look at Idris.
Yeah.
Do you think they really got it?
joe rogan
Yes, I do.
andrew schulz
You don't think it's weird that the second it pops off, Tom Hanks is like, I got it?
joe rogan
Well, the whole crew got it.
A lot of people were hospitalized.
It was in Australia.
There was a breakout in that area.
andrew schulz
Because that's what I would do if I wanted people to be afraid.
I'd be like, who's the most famous guy?
He got it.
joe rogan
Oh, you're going deep conspiracy on me.
andrew schulz
I'm just saying, wouldn't you do that?
joe rogan
We haven't even smoked any weed yet.
andrew schulz
Maybe at the end, but once I smoke, it's over.
I just want to let you know.
What happens?
I'll fall apart.
I'll start doing like...
I'll start doing beatboxing maybe.
It just gets really bad.
joe rogan
It gets horrible.
If we wanted to point to a conspiracy, I would say you would kill Tom Hanks.
I wouldn't say you let him walk away free.
Because he gets it and he kicks it.
andrew schulz
Because then we're terrified.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm not scared if Tom Hanks can kick it.
If Tom Hanks can kick it, I can kick it for sure.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
It was interesting.
It was like only famous people got it initially.
It was like the new blue check.
That's what we were calling it.
Because I remember I didn't know a single regular person that had it.
But all these athletes had it.
Every basketball team, a few people had it.
All these actors had it.
Yeah, I was just like, how the fuck are they getting it?
joe rogan
See, the athlete thing was like, okay, well these are super athletes and they don't have any form.
andrew schulz
You know what it was.
joe rogan
What?
andrew schulz
They were flying bitches in, bro.
You know what it was.
unidentified
Dare you.
andrew schulz
Come on.
joe rogan
Dare you.
andrew schulz
Come on, dude.
joe rogan
I feel like it was just using the wrong fountain.
unidentified
Those days are done.
We can all use any fountain now, okay?
andrew schulz
Cut the clip.
unidentified
Send it to CNN. I got a fountain with a disease.
How many clips are we going to give CNN this episode alone?
joe rogan
How many problematic clips?
Let's talk about them.
Let's talk about them.
I feel like the athlete thing was like, okay, they're super athletes and they don't have any symptoms.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
But we're not super athletes.
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then Idris Elba is just a really good in-shape actor.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he seems okay.
Tom Hanks is an older gentleman who doesn't look like he's in great shape.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he got through it.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you find out the flu numbers.
But it's not the flu, okay?
Okay, it's not the flu.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, it's not the flu.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Science is the new religion, bro.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is.
andrew schulz
Think about it, though.
joe rogan
No, but it's Monday, Monday.
I really believe this.
I really believe it's Monday morning.
andrew schulz
I know what you're saying with the Monday morning, but think about the way religion operated in the past, right?
The second you said anything against the church, they shame you, they ostracize you.
Who the fuck are you?
How could you say these things?
They put you in your little box over there.
You get excommunicated.
Any of us who are like, you sure it really kills everyone?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Like, are you sure?
Are you sure it's that contagious?
joe rogan
Can't say that.
What the fuck?
andrew schulz
What the fuck is wrong?
Fauci, come out of the keyboard elf house.
Tell them what's going on.
They just rail at you nonstop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And the second you say a single thing, you were, what did they label you as?
I think Amazon even took down a book.
A heretic.
A heretic, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, wasn't it?
Is that what the term is?
andrew schulz
I think you were blasphemy or something.
Blasphemy for sure.
All of a sudden, this information starts to come out where it's like, okay, it's not that bad.
The curve is kind of flattening.
Now the shit comes out today that was, it basically said if you're asymptomatic, you can't transfer it as easily as they thought.
It's almost impossible.
joe rogan
Right, so all that worry that we were about kids giving it to their grandmothers, they're not going to do that.
andrew schulz
That was the only reason why stores are shut down.
The only reason why comedy clubs shut down, restaurants, because if you're asymptomatic, you pass on.
Now we know you're not.
If you have a cough, if you're sneezing, if you've got the flu, stay the fuck home.
joe rogan
That's it.
andrew schulz
Crank it open.
Let's go.
joe rogan
Crank it open.
Yeah, meanwhile you have to wait.
No, New Jersey just said they want another month.
andrew schulz
So this is where we get into like the...
joe rogan
I'm on my mind.
andrew schulz
But you don't think this is just people trying to get re-elected?
joe rogan
Um, it could be.
But it could be people who are scared of people dying on their watch.
andrew schulz
Because now it's not the economy that gets re-elected, it's people dying on your watch.
joe rogan
Well, if someone comes along and says the reason why X amount of people died, it could have been much less if you had just done the right thing and kept those people safe and kept everything closed for another month.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
So, I think it's that.
It's also, a lot of these people are not healthy people.
I know a lot of really intelligent people that are not healthy, and they're terrified of this virus.
And I would try to tell them, well, hey, let's look at the actual statistics.
The actual statistics are, it doesn't seem like it's fun to catch, but as long as you have a good level of nutrients in your body, you have an adequate...
Sufficient levels of vitamin D, zinc, you take care of yourself, get in the sauna, drink a lot of water, don't get fucked up every night, don't eat sugar all day.
Like, you're probably gonna be okay, and maybe what's devastating, even more so, is how many suicides we had.
How many people died because of the depression.
andrew schulz
Yo, did you hear that stat that, like, corona actually saved lives?
Because people weren't driving, so they didn't get in car accidents.
joe rogan
Oh, that's true.
andrew schulz
In a weird way, way less people.
joe rogan
It saved car accident deaths.
andrew schulz
Car accident deaths.
What else was there?
I mean, there was a lot more domestic violence, but...
joe rogan
A lot more child abuse, too.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of child abuse, a lot of domestic violence.
And then what's really scary is the fucking suicides.
Because people who are already barely hanging on, but might have pulled through if they had a good job, had a way to make a living.
Now they're broke, and they have to beg for money, and they get one $1,200 check if they even got it.
andrew schulz
Everybody I know that's a comic is making more money.
unidentified
How?
andrew schulz
All these comics that were like, they're barely, they were like middling on the road or they were barely doing it.
They get the $1,200 stimmy check.
They get furloughed from their job.
So I think you get like 600 bucks or something a month or a week or something when you're furloughed.
They're making like a grand a week.
Like everybody had money.
Dude, this is the crazy shit about everything.
The stock market hasn't budged.
joe rogan
Well, that's how you know the stock market's fake.
andrew schulz
Or, this is fake!
They price out everything, Joe.
They price out everything.
The Super Bowl, they price it out.
They price out the, what is it, the other thing we were just saying?
The pandemic, they price out, right?
And it dipped down.
The protests right now, they priced out.
joe rogan
They priced out the protests?
andrew schulz
They're MIT mathematicians.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew schulz
I think.
Call up Lex Friedman!
joe rogan
Let's get to the bottom of this!
Lex!
Lex!
Call me, buddy.
andrew schulz
I was funny when we were at the store and I was teasing him because he was dressed like a men in black dude.
And then you'd go, he's a black belt in jujitsu, too.
And I was like, okay, buddy.
joe rogan
He's a super nerd.
He's a nerd that can kill you.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Nerds like that jujitsu.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's a very intellectual pursuit, believe it or not.
Seems like it wouldn't be.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
It seems like it's just brute strength and shit like that, but it's not.
andrew schulz
But is it also they just want to, like, touch people?
Yeah.
There's no socialization.
You're just in your cubicle and then you get to embrace.
joe rogan
Be awkward.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get past the normal awkwardness of touching people.
andrew schulz
And you maybe never were able to.
We need fucking affection.
You go to Africa, right?
And you're super homophobic, a lot of these countries.
But the dudes are holding hands.
The dudes are hugging each other, kissing each other when they fucking meet.
And I think it's because if you can't just fuck broads regularly, you need that affection somewhere.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
So you just get it from your boys.
joe rogan
How come they can't fuck broads regularly?
andrew schulz
I think there's not like just dating cultures.
Like if there's no alcohol, it's harder just like go to the hookah spot and pick up a broad.
Like where do you even date?
Like if you can't drink.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
If you can't go out for a drink.
Where would you date?
Where would you meet a girl?
joe rogan
You have to date in your social circle.
andrew schulz
You have to meet at the mosque.
And what are you going to pick up girls at the mosque?
joe rogan
I bet a lot of it would be like your girl or like your girl would have a friend and she would try to introduce her to Jamie.
That kind of deal.
andrew schulz
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Like oh I know this single guy.
I'm going to set you up.
There's probably a lot of that.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Arranged.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And there's probably a lot of girls trying to sabotage relationships.
So I think Mike would be so much better with you.
And they try to sabotage relationships with their girlfriend and some guy so that they can sneak in some other dude.
Whoa.
For sure.
andrew schulz
Like a terror plot.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure they do that.
Yeah.
I just don't think he's good for you.
I just don't.
Debbie, you can do so much better.
I mean, yeah, he's fine.
andrew schulz
How happy are you that you don't have to date through all this?
joe rogan
How about dating through the pandemic?
andrew schulz
Yeah, I didn't get it at all.
I got a girl, so I'm straight.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that would be the worst.
The guys that I know that are the most depressed right now are single that have been by themselves for two fucking months locked in their apartment.
andrew schulz
You don't think they're having people come up?
Oh, they, but then they were, you know, they were not, I wasn't about to say losers.
Losers?
They weren't getting any pussy before.
joe rogan
Well, they were getting some occasionally, but they had to go out and get it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You have to go, you have a couple of drinks with someone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Next thing you know.
andrew schulz
Dude, I don't even know how to get laid anymore, I'm thinking.
joe rogan
I bet you ask.
You just beg.
andrew schulz
You just beg?
joe rogan
You got to bring a consent form.
andrew schulz
And have him sign.
joe rogan
And you have to record it.
Everyone's going to be a pornographer so that every step of the way gets documented.
Like, this is for us.
We're going to put it in a vault, in a safe deposit box, just so everybody knows that you were well aware and wanted to do all this stuff.
You can't change what happened.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't decide after you feel terrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Like, just asking...
joe rogan
Some people do distort.
The distorting part is what's really scary.
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Like, openly distort, like, what happened with you and...
Like, you know the Chris Hardwick story?
andrew schulz
No.
Go.
joe rogan
Terrible one.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
His ex-girlfriend accused him of sexual assault and this is her definition of sexual assault.
She said yes to him because he had told her that if in the past that he had been in a relationship in the past where the girl didn't want sex as much as him and he didn't like it.
So this was her reasoning.
For describing why her saying yes to him and having sex with him was actually him sexually assaulting her.
It's crazy, right?
He had all these text messages from her.
He documented everything, luckily.
But yet, people were still upset that AMC hired him back, even though it was shown that she lied and not him, and that none of it...
He actually broke up with her because she was making out with some other guy.
There was a lot of craziness to it.
andrew schulz
So she cheated on him.
joe rogan
But it didn't matter.
They were still going after him.
People were still going after him.
People can distort the version of the relationship that you had.
And even if you can prove it wrong...
You're still on the wire.
I'm a believer.
andrew schulz
I'm a believer.
joe rogan
I always believe women.
And there's people that do say that.
andrew schulz
Believe all women.
joe rogan
You can't believe all anything.
You can't believe all cops.
You can't believe all doctors.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I don't like all arguments.
joe rogan
It's a dumb argument.
andrew schulz
Outside of stand-up.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, well for funny.
andrew schulz
Stand-up, all arguments are the best.
joe rogan
Yes, sure.
That makes good comedy.
Oh, it's fun.
andrew schulz
It's fun.
Now you got me thinking about Believe All Women.
I'm like, how can I find a way?
joe rogan
Well, you hear Burr's bit on her.
Burr's like, all of them?
unidentified
Like, all of them?
joe rogan
Everybody knows that's nonsense when you say something like that.
andrew schulz
But they get behind it.
It's a weird...
I don't know.
joe rogan
My go-to is always Casey Anthony.
Do we believe her?
andrew schulz
What did she say?
joe rogan
She killed her fucking kid.
She killed her kid and duct-taped it.
She covered it up?
Yeah, she got away with it, too.
andrew schulz
But like, how did she do it?
joe rogan
She murdered her kid.
andrew schulz
Like with a knife or something like that?
No, I know.
She's in Florida or something like that.
joe rogan
I don't think they found the body, but they found blood and they found a bunch of different things.
andrew schulz
So the baby disappeared.
The baby's gone.
joe rogan
Exactly.
andrew schulz
She killed the kid.
joe rogan
It's a famous story.
unidentified
No, I know.
andrew schulz
I heard the thing, but we don't know if the baby's dead.
Did we find the baby?
joe rogan
I don't think they ever found it.
andrew schulz
So the baby's not dead.
I'd say...
That's what I would say.
I was like, bro, you need a body for a murder, right?
jamie vernon
Skeletal remains were found.
unidentified
Say again?
joe rogan
Skeletal remains were found.
jamie vernon
In a trash bag.
joe rogan
Oh, there you go.
Skeletal remains in a trash bag.
andrew schulz
Skeletal remains.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good.
That's right.
Wasn't there a situation where, after the fact, they found another web browser that they hadn't bothered checking on a computer?
andrew schulz
And it was like, how to get rid of a baby.
joe rogan
And that one was all like, you know, how to get rid of a body.
How long does it take for a body to decompose?
What's the best way to kill a baby?
andrew schulz
But this was the case where, like, her lawyer...
joe rogan
She might not have searched that in the interest of not getting sued.
It might not have been, how do you kill a baby?
unidentified
Oh, God, it sucks that you have to preface yourself.
jamie vernon
According to Google, neck breaking, how to make chloroform.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
For everybody that watches this show, I just want to let you know, Jamie doesn't have a computer.
He just knows all this stuff.
joe rogan
Put up the list of these things.
And what is the article?
jamie vernon
I'm looking in the Wikipedia for it.
That's all it said.
joe rogan
So this is what they said that she had...
Problem with Wikipedia, it says I'm Brian Callen's brother.
jamie vernon
Well, I'll get you.
This has a notation.
joe rogan
It says I have Crohn's disease, too.
They're just making shit up.
andrew schulz
Do you have it?
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
So the Casey Anthony thing, her lawyer said that her dad did it.
Did you see that?
That was the defense.
joe rogan
Her lawyer said her dad did.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
So the defense was, hey, we just need to make it plausible that someone else killed the baby.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
andrew schulz
And then you've got to handle that shit yourself afterwards.
joe rogan
So they're admitting they know somebody killed the baby and that someone was in the family.
andrew schulz
But it got her off.
The point is, I don't want to be dating anybody right now.
joe rogan
This is the thing.
You can't trust anybody.
andrew schulz
Yes, but here's the thing.
With her, do you think she killed the baby on purpose or the baby died and then she's like, fuck, I killed a baby.
How do I get rid of this thing so it looks like I didn't kill a baby?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Now we're in the realm of speculation.
andrew schulz
What would you do if you killed a baby by accident?
joe rogan
Wow, that's heavy.
andrew schulz
It's a tough one, because you didn't mean to.
Right?
Like you were doing the game, you know, where you throw the baby.
Right?
joe rogan
And then, just into a fan.
unidentified
What?
andrew schulz
It didn't have to die like that.
unidentified
He threw it up in the air.
I'm just thinking to drop it.
joe rogan
One of the fans is really fucking whizzing around and you forgot.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
jamie vernon
This is just An article that mentions the searches.
It's from in the middle of the case.
It's like a web archive.
Her mom said that they gave the baby to a babysitter, which nobody could find, and that Casey's car smelled like a dead body.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
She probably left it in there a long time.
Well, you got a sloppy bitch like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't clean up the baby quick.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
jamie vernon
She said it was from an old pizza and trash that was in the trunk.
Not human decomposition.
andrew schulz
Was she one of these, like, hot girls?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Hot and parties.
Remember there was, like, a time where, like, hot girls were killing a lot?
It was her and then that other girl, right?
Like, there were smoke shows.
Just fucking joints were killing.
What was the other girl she killed?
Someone, I think it was an L.A. trial.
joe rogan
Which one was this?
andrew schulz
Oh, God.
She was like Spanish or something.
She was like kind of like spicy.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Do you remember this?
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now I'm interested.
andrew schulz
It was like a pretty bad murder.
We Googled like the hottest like chicks who murdered.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
andrew schulz
Because we wanted to see like, you know like when you're like great at what you do, you can get away with it?
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
You know, I'm sure people have done bits about that.
Like, you know, blah, blah, blah was so great.
He could get away.
Michael Jackson's so great.
He could get away with these things.
And we were like, does the same thing work for like hot chicks who kill?
Like, would you still fuck?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
If they'd be willing to fuck you?
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Oh, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
If you were going to do it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like if a prime time, like what's, give me, what do you think is the hottest girl you've ever seen?
andrew schulz
Hottest girl I've ever seen, obviously outside of our significant others, Joe.
100%.
joe rogan
Just give me an example, like publicly.
andrew schulz
A joint?
Adriana Lima is a joint.
Perfect example.
100%.
joe rogan
Perfect example.
Now imagine, Adriana Lima, she kills her husband, but he's kind of a guy who's a fucking asshole.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Guy's a piece of shit.
andrew schulz
He could be the kindest man ever.
She could kill him while he's like feeding cleft palate kids, and I would take the kid, I'd put them in another room, obviously I wouldn't kill the kid, I'd clean up the guy's dead body, and then we would do whatever we had to do.
joe rogan
But would you trust her if you were fucking her with a lot of objects around?
I would want it to be in like a basketball court.
Fucking her with objects around her.
unidentified
I'm not fucking her on the table at the Joe Rohn against me.
joe rogan
There's all these knives on this fucking table.
That's what I'm thinking.
Someone's going to grab a knife and stab you.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I don't know if I'm trusting.
unidentified
Maybe right as she comes, you motherfucker!
joe rogan
Right through your ribcage.
Like, oh my god, I should have listened to Joe and taken her to the gym.
andrew schulz
This was back in my bad days.
I'm a good guy now.
I'm a reformed hoe, if you will.
But I remember I had a girl over, and I remember I left my wallet in the living room.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
andrew schulz
And she went to the bathroom or something like that to clean up.
And I remember I went into the living room, grabbed my wallet, and put it in a pair of pants.
And then I sat there for a second, and I'm like, And my fucking girls, I think, will steal from me?
Like, what's happening in my life that I'm willing to go through with this?
joe rogan
Well, you do, though.
When you're a young man and you're horny, that's a drug dealer.
You got a drug dealer in front of you.
It's not just a girl that you're interested in.
You're also, you have a real need.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
When guys are horny, I mean, I don't know what it's like.
I'm obviously talking just for men, because I don't know what it's like when a girl's horny.
Maybe it's exactly the same feeling.
I don't think it is.
I would assume that, like all other things, men and women are very different, so I think the horny part's very different, too.
But when men are horny, it gets desperate.
It gets weird, like drug addict-y desperate.
andrew schulz
Yeah, I think I've always wondered that with like women like if because we always chalk it up to ourselves like if we get laid right it's like I kick great game like that was me like I took that down or whatever you know and I wonder if a lot of it is like their emotional state in the day like like Let's say their cat went missing or something like if that they're like, oh fuck I'm really down I'm gonna go hook up with this guy because that's gonna elevate my emotional state.
joe rogan
I think for some girls I think some girls just want an escape and they'll just go have a you know Just a fling right but see a thing with girls have to worry about men In a dangerous way where men don't really have to worry about girls the same way Yeah, there's a...
andrew schulz
Dude, you know what it is?
Like, you saw...
Obviously, you saw the Epstein doc on Netflix, right?
joe rogan
Oh, dude, I couldn't watch it.
Jamie and I were watching it together.
I shut it off after the first 15 minutes.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was like, I don't want to hear about this.
I know what happened.
andrew schulz
Here's the thing.
Obviously, fluff piece.
Like, we can get into that.
But, like...
To, like, put all the guilt on Epstein type of thing.
Like, he's the sole purpose.
Like, he manipulated everybody.
It was, like, really adorable how they did it.
Kind of like, you know, Fyre Fest.
They made it look like that guy Billy was just the only guy that did anything wrong.
Like, all these, like, oh, God, yeah.
It's like the second someone can't refute the evidence.
Like, Billy was in jail.
They're like, okay, we're on the docks, right?
And it's like...
So there were these PR companies that were attached to Fyre Fest that promoted this shit everywhere and all of a sudden they're like absolved of any guilt because it's just this guy, Billy, who did everything and whatever.
It doesn't matter.
Same thing with Epstein.
But what was interesting about the girls was you just got to hear their stories.
I never heard of any of these girls, right?
And after watching the stories and how they complained to the FBI, they complained to all these different places and nobody ever listened to them, I go, oh shit, this is why the Me Too movement existed.
Because as a dude that came into the Me Too movement, never being a douchebag to girls, I never fucking mistreated women at all.
I was always very good to girls.
I looked at the Me Too movement and I was like, what's going on here?
Why are these girls so angry at us?
I'm the worst version of guy in terms of maybe dating a lot, but I would never do anything bad to a girl.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're not a boss.
andrew schulz
No, no, no, no.
But here's what I'm saying.
This is what's really interesting.
The girls tried to be heard for years.
They weren't.
All of a sudden, the voices are heard, right?
I'm sure those weren't the only girls who talked to their boss or talked to HR about their boss being inappropriate and were told to shut the fuck up.
So the second they're listened to, the floodgates are open.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
You see what I'm saying?
And I was like, oh, that's why this happened.
This is like the straw that broke the camel's back type of thing.
joe rogan
Exactly.
andrew schulz
And if I look at it through that perspective, even in the time, I go, yes, this is wrong.
And saying things like, you know, absolutes, like believe all women, that kind of stuff is wrong and probably wouldn't even be supported by them.
But I get the feeling where it's like, if nobody's gonna listen to you and now you got a microphone, yeah, you're gonna scream into that shit.
joe rogan
I don't even think it's the rational ones that are saying it that are saying believe all women I think it's a lot of a lot of that shit is crazy people Like yeah, just that slogan is not something you could say.
You can't say believe all men You can't say you can't say that because then you're giving people the license to bullshit you Yeah, because you're not treating there's like if someone tells you a story and in this story whether you know, whoever it is It's your boss.
Yeah, you're the victim of your boss If you don't know the boss's version of it, you don't really know the truth.
It's hard to say.
It might very well be they're telling you the 100% truth, or they might be a fucking crazy person who blames everybody for everything that ever happened in their life, and they might be a pathological liar.
There's a lot of people that are just liars.
There's a lot of people that are manipulators.
They make up stories to make other people look bad.
But the nature of man Is that men are disgusting and when men are in control, like if a guy is the head of a fucking movie studio, and he can get all these dime pieces to suck on his dick to get a movie roll, they've been doing that since the beginning of time.
And the problem is, not just that the man wants to do that to all the actresses, there's another problem that some of the actresses We're good to go.
andrew schulz
Dude, if you're benefiting from the system, why would you reject it?
Now, I'm not making a statement about Margot Robbie, right?
I don't know what she's done in her life, and she probably earned every single one of her roles perfectly.
No question.
joe rogan
You don't even have to name any names.
andrew schulz
My point is, you've never heard her complain about Hollywood, because she's getting all the roles.
The girls in Hollywood I hear complaining are 50. You don't think that's coincidental?
Like, Rose McGowan ages out of sucking dick to do the role?
joe rogan
You son of a bitch!
andrew schulz
I'm just saying!
joe rogan
How dare you!
andrew schulz
I'm just saying, isn't it coincidental when you age out of some shit and you complain?
We're all guilty of it, too.
I see tons of comics and be like, there's no jobs for straight white comics.
And it's like, you're 50. There weren't any for 50-year-olds.
joe rogan
You gotta play a guy who's, you know, you're a dad now.
andrew schulz
I think a lot of times you see these things at convenience, man.
It's like...
joe rogan
I wouldn't want to comment on that because I don't know exactly what her situation is or any of theirs, right?
But what I do know...
andrew schulz
I don't know either, but you look at the correlation, you see like, okay, maybe there was a time where this type of behavior was like how you kind of work the system to get ahead.
joe rogan
Talk to Whitney about it.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, she's not going to name any names.
She'll fucking tell you.
That's exactly what some of them did.
andrew schulz
Bro, that's the thing that I've realized like now is like, especially with politics, which is so smart, is like...
Have you seen everything?
Everything is like a proxy war.
Like, if you have a message you have to get across, right?
And you're a Republican, right?
If you have a message you want to get, you're a Republican.
You know that the left is going to attack your identity first, no matter what the message is.
So they find people who have identities they can't attack and they prop them up, right?
unidentified
Like the gay Asian dude.
andrew schulz
What's this guy?
He got beat up like they got milkshakes on him or something like that.
joe rogan
Oh, Andy, no.
andrew schulz
Yeah, and then Candace Owens, right?
Like if you're conservative and you want these conservative points said, you have to get them said by people that the right can't criticize them for.
joe rogan
The left can't criticize.
andrew schulz
Sorry, the left can't criticize for.
So it's like if you or I say something where like looting is bad or something like that, right?
Easily, well, you wouldn't know.
You wouldn't know what systemic oppression is.
Joe, you're a fucking white guy.
You have all this privilege.
Shut the fuck up.
But if you have someone whose identity Cannot be criticized.
You have to take what they say at face value.
So that's their proxies, right?
Like Milo is the first one of these guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, but these two people that you're using an example are both examples of people that have been attacked by the left.
andrew schulz
But they're not attacked for their identity and not immediately discredited for their identity.
They have to be discredited for the words, whereas you would be immediate identity wiping away.
But what's genius is the left does it as well.
And this fucking hit me because I'd be looking at Greta Thunberg and I'm like, why the fuck are we listening to a fucking kid about anything?
joe rogan
Right?
andrew schulz
It drove me crazy.
And then I go...
And I'd see the gun kids from Florida, from the school that got shot up.
And I'd be like, why are we listening to kids about guns and legislation?
I'm like, holy fuck.
They're making kids make all the points because you can't tell kids to shut the fuck up or you're an asshole.
If you're the adult telling a little girl to shut the fuck up, you don't know anything about the polar ice caps, you're an asshole.
So if you just get kids to make all your points for you, the right just got to go, well, it's good that kids are involved in the political process.
joe rogan
Well, my favorite thing about Greta is they started off with climate change.
She was talking about her future and how dare you.
andrew schulz
Then she became a half-tard.
Right?
Didn't she go half-tard?
She went Hannah Gatsby, right?
It's like...
joe rogan
She has autism?
Is that what you're saying?
andrew schulz
Someone told me she's half retarded.
joe rogan
I believe she has autism.
That's the correct term for it.
andrew schulz
What's the difference?
Was she vaccinated?
Do we vaccine?
Did you have too much vaccines?
joe rogan
No, there's no issues with the vaccines.
It actually is a plus.
andrew schulz
Doing the vaccines?
joe rogan
No, no.
The autism.
It actually helps you focus on certain things.
andrew schulz
Like what?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, that's what they say about people on the spectrum.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Let's ask Ben Shapiro.
joe rogan
You think he's on it?
andrew schulz
Oh, autistic Adam Smith.
That's what I call him.
Dude, let's go.
The free market is...
Ask him about anything.
You like donuts?
unidentified
Well, even the best donuts would be at the free market.
He's like, bro, turn it off for a second, dude.
andrew schulz
Just fucking turn it off.
joe rogan
We get it.
andrew schulz
You like capitalism, dude.
Turn it the fuck down.
joe rogan
What I was going to say about that Greta chick is they brought her on the COVID council.
andrew schulz
I saw that.
I couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
She's 16. Like, why are you bringing her on an infectious disease council for a pandemic that no one's ever faced before?
andrew schulz
Bro, it's unbelievable.
joe rogan
You know who they wouldn't have on the council?
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
Rand Paul, who is an actual medical doctor who actually survived COVID. They didn't ask him to be on it.
Why?
Because he has controversial opinions.
And maybe he thinks that it wasn't the best idea to shut the fucking economy down for three months and have everybody go crazy.
andrew schulz
Bro, it is what it is.
joe rogan
It is what it is.
andrew schulz
It is what it is.
You can't...
It's just...
Yeah, we live in a weird fucking time, man.
joe rogan
But you can't tell me that they didn't...
Calling her for a new issue and putting her out there publicly is so irresponsible.
andrew schulz
Calling her for any issue is irresponsible.
She's a teenager.
What do teenagers know?
Please tell me what teenagers know.
joe rogan
They know how to go to school and they have less things in their mind so they get better at stuff quicker.
Like if you want to be a gymnast or a martial artist, when you're a teen, you get way better way quicker.
andrew schulz
Okay.
Greta, if there's a TikTok dance that I need to learn, I guarantee your autistic concentration is going to make it perfect and you're going to get down those steps.
You're going to be able to do it.
I don't need to know about fucking science from you.
I don't even need to know about science from most journalists.
I just need scientists to tell me and then I'm gonna actually ask questions because that's what fucking science is.
When did science stop being about asking questions?
Like if you ask any real scientist, they'd be like, yeah, well the whole point is we just poke holes in our theories and we just do that constantly and that's actually good science.
Now the second you ask a question...
You're a heretic, man.
joe rogan
If it's about gender, or if it's about the economy, or if it's about climate change.
Those things, you're not allowed to use science.
andrew schulz
Okay, climate's changing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can't use science to...
If you have any scientific facts that you try to bring...
andrew schulz
What do you think about it?
You think climate's changing?
joe rogan
It's 100% changing.
andrew schulz
It's changing, for the better.
joe rogan
If you're in Antarctica, it's better.
andrew schulz
If you're in Antarctica.
joe rogan
It's going to get hotter.
There's going to be some adaptation.
andrew schulz
Give me the negative.
When they describe it to me...
joe rogan
Extinction events, for sure.
There's going to be a large number of animals that can't survive in areas.
There'll be less water in areas where it's hotter.
Animals are going to die.
Maybe people are going to die.
andrew schulz
We can move the people.
joe rogan
Less crops.
Yeah, it's not that easy, but you're right.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
We got food.
joe rogan
But for sure it's real.
andrew schulz
You can make food anywhere.
I can make food in my backyard.
I can make food in my living room if I want.
joe rogan
But the point about it is if you in any way dispute the models of what they're saying and have an alternative perspective, that alternative perspective is never engaged.
That alternative perspective is demonized.
That perspective is you're a climate change denier and you're a bad person.
And some of them just have data that they're going on.
Like they're talking about the raised carbon levels in the atmosphere is actually better for plant life.
And that the more – because plants actually take in carbon dioxide.
They breathe out oxygen.
And there was some people that were talking about how there is – there's some benefits to some forms of life by an increased carbon count in the atmosphere.
It's a fucking weird argument because it's one of the factors that's leading to the fact that the world's heating up.
I mean, you're saying that it's good that the world's heating up.
It's like, boy, I don't know.
Maybe.
andrew schulz
We act like it's good.
We want to be warmer.
You know, I grew up in New York.
Obviously, he likes to be warmer, and I'm sure that's just a surface-level argument.
That being said, I don't know if the conversation should be stop global warming at any cost.
Maybe it's a better conversation to have is like, hey, we should do what we can to stop global warming, but we can't kill the economy because then we kill people anyway.
joe rogan
That is true.
andrew schulz
We act like...
We're in a weird space where we just think you could print money and everything's okay.
This concerns me a little.
That doesn't worry you?
joe rogan
It worries me.
That's why the pandemic thing worried me, the shutdown, because it's not that easy to restart everything.
And there's a lot of things that won't be there when you restart it, including they think something like 40% of small businesses might go under.
Within the first six months?
That's scary shit.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
So what is everybody going to work for Target and Walmart and large corporations?
All the mom and pop stores go under.
All the mom and pop restaurants go under.
Very dangerous time in that way.
Because then, where are the jobs?
You can't just go right back.
And that's going to lead to a lot of suicide, a lot of murder, a lot of crazy shit because people are going to be desperate.
That's one of the things they said about Northern California.
They had more suicides during the crackdown than they had from COVID. More people died from killing themselves.
There's a big uptick.
Big uptick in suicides.
One of Swartzen's buddies, the sheriff, was telling him that they used to have one a week, and now they were having five a day.
Somewhere in LA. Like, what the fuck, man?
So that's something that people need to take into consideration.
You need to take into consideration how many people are going to become drug addicts.
How many people who are going to be severely depressed and it might forever alter the course of their trajectory in life.
They might have been on an upward trend and all of a sudden, boom, their business gets taken away from them and then they get desperate and then they get sad and then they get on antidepressants and then they zombie out and then they never go anywhere.
Where they were on their way to having a fulfilled life.
How many people broke up with their fucking loved ones because they had to be with them all day, 24 hours a day, and they were just sick of them?
Maybe they would have worked out great if they just went along at a natural trajectory.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How about if you just start with a girl?
You just meet her.
You've been dating for a couple weeks, and all of a sudden the pandemic hits, and you really like her.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, let's just live together.
Fuck it.
And you're like, how long is it gonna take?
You tell your friends, like, you sure that's a good idea, Andrew?
You've only known her for 14 days.
andrew schulz
We bought a dog.
unidentified
Bro, we bought a fucking golden doodle, bro.
andrew schulz
It's true.
joe rogan
You ever call your buddy from a new number and his girl answers the phone?
Girl answers the cell phone.
Hello?
Yeah.
I'm calling for Greg.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's this?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Greg's friend?
Who the fuck are you?
That's the real question.
Does Greg have a secretary?
What is this?
And he's like, oh, yeah, man, that's my girlfriend.
She didn't recognize the number.
andrew schulz
Who got locked up?
joe rogan
She didn't recognize the number.
Oh, so she just answers your phone when she doesn't recognize the number?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
What are you talking about, man?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's...
I don't know.
I've been very lucky.
Like, you know, me and my girl live together and...
joe rogan
Well, you would tolerate nothing less.
andrew schulz
We've had a great...
Say again?
joe rogan
You would tolerate nothing less.
You're not a fucking moron.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's the other thing.
It's like I cannot function well in misery.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I won't tolerate misery.
joe rogan
Dude, I would hate to be a woman working for a guy who wanted to fuck me.
It would probably be horrible.
andrew schulz
Dude, being a guy wanting to work for...
Like...
joe rogan
Oh my god, if there was a guy who was your boss who wanted to fuck you?
andrew schulz
Oh, I was thinking like a girl boss, but also that.
That sucks.
joe rogan
Girl boss would be rough too.
andrew schulz
Yeah, if a guy was putting a pressure on, like if a guy was really like rubbing your shoulders, like guys do the chicks at work, like laying the meat on your back a bit.
joe rogan
I knew a casting agent that was a female that was kind of gross and she would fuck dudes and get them rolls.
andrew schulz
Yeah?
joe rogan
Oh yeah!
She'd throw it around.
Back in the dizzies, son.
andrew schulz
Back in the 90s.
joe rogan
Got a lot of fellas on a lot of projects.
andrew schulz
Really?
Did you get something?
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
Yeah?
joe rogan
But she tried to fuck one of my friends.
andrew schulz
That was the only thing you're scared?
joe rogan
I gotta call him off.
unidentified
Hey!
Hey!
andrew schulz
There was a girl...
I shouldn't out her, bud.
joe rogan
I'm not outing anybody.
andrew schulz
I won't say names, but I think there was a girl that worked at a comedy club in New York that would fuck a lot of comics.
joe rogan
And get him on the stage?
andrew schulz
I think that's how it worked.
joe rogan
I think that's basically what James Mitzi did.
andrew schulz
This was way back in the day.
This was way back in the day.
But did Misty...
joe rogan
But listen, here's the deal.
Here's the difference.
I support that.
andrew schulz
Keep going.
joe rogan
No one's getting killed.
See, what I'm scared about with women is that men are physically stronger.
andrew schulz
Yes.
joe rogan
When the man is physically stronger, the woman can just basically just fuck him.
Yes.
They don't only have sex with him.
andrew schulz
Yes.
joe rogan
The sucky thing is if it affects your career, I get that.
But there's a big difference between that and worried you're actually going to get raped or worried you're going to get killed.
What women have to worry about with guys that want to fuck them is creepy, angry guy type shit.
andrew schulz
Yes.
joe rogan
With men have to worry about just lies.
They have to worry about like hysterical lies and crazy people making things up or maybe the new boyfriend coming over to kick your ass.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
That's the kind of stuff you have to worry about.
You have to worry about You know, less things.
And you don't have to worry about any of it during sex.
That's what I was saying.
If you're gonna, was it Andrea Lima?
Who's the girl?
andrew schulz
Adriana Lima.
unidentified
Adriana Lima.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Adriana Lima.
andrew schulz
Joint.
joe rogan
Basketball court.
Nothing around.
No physical objects.
She can't kill you with anything.
If she puts her pants on screaming and runs out to the car, you got plenty of warning.
You grab a chair.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what you're doing.
unidentified
What do you do?
joe rogan
Keep away like a lion.
unidentified
Hey!
andrew schulz
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My fucking chair.
joe rogan
Hey!
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Stop.
Stop.
andrew schulz
One more time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
One more?
joe rogan
Is this what we're doing?
But my point is it has to be an extremely psychotic woman for you to be actually worried about your life.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if a girl comes over to your house, you might worry about your wallet if you fucked up and you just barely know her.
Now all of a sudden she's rummaging through your house.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
But you don't worry about your life.
andrew schulz
Yeah, you don't worry about your life.
joe rogan
If a woman takes a guy over her house, she worries about her life.
andrew schulz
Yeah, she's terrifying.
joe rogan
It's a different thing.
It's always gross when someone's using their power to fuck you.
Whether it's a man or a woman, it's gross.
But it's less gross when it's a woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
But power, you mean physical power?
joe rogan
No.
No, well, physical power for sure.
I meant like power.
Like if they're your boss.
andrew schulz
That's a slippery slope though, dude.
Don't you think?
It's like you can't use...
Power.
That's the weirdest thing.
joe rogan
It's less gross, though.
andrew schulz
Yeah, less gross, but that was the biggest...
joe rogan
But not much.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Well, I don't know.
That was the biggest issue with the Louis thing.
Louis, I think, said in his apology, he was like, these girls admired me, and I used that or something like that.
And I was like, who fucks someone they don't admire?
That's bare minimum of the person that you're fucking is admiration.
We just can't start labeling things as sexual misconduct that are actually good qualities to have in a man.
He has power.
joe rogan
He's wealthy.
But that would have been negated if he actually had sex with them.
Then there was no issue at all.
The issue was he asked if he could beat off in front of him and a lot of women find that disgusting.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the issue.
If he said, do you guys want to have sex, and they said yes, and then they did it, there's no argument.
But if he said, do you mind if I beat off in front of you, and they said yes, people still judge.
andrew schulz
Bro, that's the tricky thing about apologizing, bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
Dude, it's so...
andrew schulz
You know what's crazy about the public apology?
Is that when you apologize publicly, you apologize for whatever someone thinks you did.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
Not for what you did.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Right.
andrew schulz
So if some girl thinks that he slammed the fucking door, held it down, put an axe there, and started fucking whacking...
joe rogan
And want to see the fear in their eyes.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
If that's what they think, and then he apologizes for, as he says, my actions or whatever...
Everybody who believes that's what happened is confirmed.
That's why I don't know if you could ever publicly apologize because you just confirm everyone's suspicions when you do it.
You have to clearly state exactly what happened for the apology if you apologize publicly.
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't want to do that.
andrew schulz
Because it's embarrassing?
joe rogan
Well, his version of it's very different than the version that gets spouted around.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And whenever that's the case, There's no way to know.
andrew schulz
No, it's a back and forth.
joe rogan
There's no way to know who's telling the truth and who's not.
But at the very least, he had a funny bit about it.
He was saying, even if they say yes, don't do it.
andrew schulz
If you're ever thinking of jerking off in front of somebody, even if they say yes, don't do it.
I heard a good hypothetical.
Tell me what you think about this.
God, I forget where I heard it.
I want to give credit, but okay.
You know how, like, if somebody, if an artist does an unthinkable action, we cancel their art.
Like, maybe watching...
unidentified
Cosby.
andrew schulz
Cosby's specials are fucked up.
Or maybe you take them off the air.
joe rogan
Well, they took the Cosby show off the air because of that, yeah.
andrew schulz
If a scientist did some foul shit back in the day, like, every Greek scientist would just bang in 14-year-old girls.
No, dudes, actually.
joe rogan
Dudes, right.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was okay back then.
andrew schulz
Okay.
Keep going.
This is interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
It was okay back then.
Times change.
Now it's not okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Right?
Do we stop using fucking algebra?
joe rogan
No, we don't.
andrew schulz
And I know there is a distinction.
And I understand a distinction where like the art is like a piece of you and math is something that you find.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Math always exists.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
That being said, I bet you there are some people who would cancel the scientists.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
And what if art, this is, and I'm not one of these fucking, like, hippie art guys, but, like, what if art had, like, healing quality?
You know, like, some people, like, songs can lift their mood, and, like, movies and stuff like that, like, can, like, ease pain, and, like, ease trauma that they went through, you know?
joe rogan
For sure.
andrew schulz
And it's like, like, my girl has all these amazing childhood memories about Harry Potter, you know?
So, like, any time we're in a fight, I just put in Harry Potter, and then we're fucking, everything's good, right?
It's like Pavlov's dog.
It's amazing, dude.
That's hilarious.
It's amazing.
We just, Sorcerer's Stone, boom, I'm back in it, everything's fine.
That's hilarious.
So what if you could make that argument where you'd be like, hey, this is very powerful, this is very important work, you can't cancel it.
Is that the Michael Jackson effect?
Did Michael Jackson make such good music, it's more than art?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the argument with Woody Allen as well.
Roman Polanski, same argument, that you go back and watch Rosemary's Baby even though you know he's a piece of shit.
andrew schulz
Right, because the art is so good and so valuable, it approaches science in its value.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's something about it where it's also ingrained into people's lives.
I guess Bill Cosby was so egregious and what he did was on a network television.
It wasn't like he was making films.
andrew schulz
But you know what's wild?
Is that like, Cosby was like, you know, putting shit in there, you know, drugging people and fucking them, right?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
andrew schulz
Joe Exotic.
Was drugging dudes and fucking them.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they wanted to be drugged.
They were all hanging around with him.
andrew schulz
Good point, good point, good point, good point, good point.
They're already methed out.
joe rogan
They married him.
andrew schulz
Come on, man.
Yeah, dude, meth is a powerful drug.
joe rogan
It's a powerful drug.
andrew schulz
Dude, that is...
joe rogan
That dude's teeth.
It shows you everything you need to know about meth.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
The dude with the four teeth.
andrew schulz
What was that line?
That's a hell of a drug.
What was it?
Was it Rick James?
Is it Rick James?
It's a hell of a drug.
joe rogan
Cocaine's a hell of a drug.
andrew schulz
But cocaine don't make you gay, bruh.
joe rogan
Maybe meth does.
andrew schulz
Meth is that good.
joe rogan
Maybe they're just gay.
andrew schulz
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
Maybe they just can be tricked into being gay.
It's like we were talking about earlier.
I really do believe that people can be talked into things.
Gay?
Sure.
For sure.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I had a bit about it.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
I had a bit about Mormons.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
Because Mormons, there was a thing called Proposition 8, and it was all about gay marriage.
It was repealing gay marriage.
And what was crazy was that the Mormon church spent a lot of money trying to repeal gay marriage.
And I said, if anybody should be scared of gay marriage, it should be Mormons.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
Because someone can talk you into being a Mormon.
They can definitely talk you into sucking their dick.
They just need a more alone time with you.
You really believe a 14 year old boy found golden tablets that contain the lost work of Jesus, but only he could read it because he had a magic rock?
Like someone, if some guy can get you to suck his dick.
He's just got to be around you long enough and tell you that the prophets told him to tell you that there's wisdom in his dick and that you have to do something that seems horrible to get the glory of God.
100% guys have done that.
andrew schulz
Do you remember that documentary that came out about the guy who fucked the whole family?
Remember he fucked the mom, the dad, and the kid?
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
They were Mormon.
joe rogan
Oh no.
Of course.
andrew schulz
Interesting.
There's another thing about Mormons.
joe rogan
They get super gullible when they're in that fundamental religion that doesn't make sense.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
People that buy into religions and grow up in religions that don't make sense.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
I know a lady who was a Mormon and she actually admitted this.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was her admission that made me think about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She goes, I have so much vulnerability when it comes to people who are like crazy yoga guys or cult members.
I buy into it because she grew up her whole life in this fundamentalist religion where you just believe nonsense.
So you're used to handing over your consciousness to nonsense.
andrew schulz
Let me see if I can poke holes in it.
Let me see.
Let me see here.
Yeah, you become trained to believe and not be skeptical so that anything that makes you feel good and included You feel like, oh, it's true.
It is rewarded.
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
All kinds of hokey fucking homeopathic bullshit.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
All kinds of nonsense that people believe.
Reiki healing.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
I want to touch you and heal you with my hands.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
All that nonsense.
We were talking about earlier about people and their art and people being cancelled and their art gets cancelled.
Whether or not they do that with scientists, there's actually a great example of that.
There's a guy named Fritz Haber invented the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the air that's responsible for a giant percentage of the fertilizing.
Like, when you eat food, I think they say that 50% of the nitrogen in most people's bodies actually comes from the Haber Method.
He figured this out in like, I guess it was World War I or World War II. And then, one, World War I. He figured this out, and then, right afterwards, he figured out how to make Zyklon gas.
So he made Zyklon A gas, which was a gas that was a pesticide, and they used Zyklon A gas for crops to kill off bugs, and it stunk to high hell.
It was fucking horrible.
So it had this smell attached to it.
The Nazis turned that into Zyklon B and were gassing Jews with his invention.
On top of that, during World War I, he talked the Germans into using poison gas on the troops, so on the Allied troops.
There was the first war where they used large-scale gassing.
andrew schulz
Chemical weapons, yeah.
joe rogan
And so he was, at the same time, Getting the Nobel Prize for the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere, and then on top of that, wanted for crimes against humanity.
Fuck.
So he was wanted for war crimes, for gassing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
First time they've ever used poison gas on troops.
It was thought to be a terrible violation of the rules of engagement.
andrew schulz
Have we developed a new fertilizer thing?
joe rogan
No, we still use that.
andrew schulz
That's still the standard.
joe rogan
There's two ways of getting nitrogen.
You either get nitrogen through natural sources, which is like fish and fertilizer and cow manure and all those types of things.
That's what compost is for.
You get it that way, or you get it from the Haber method.
Because the oxygen, when you think about air...
andrew schulz
That's the best argument for like...
What is it?
Mulching?
What is the thing?
Not mulching.
joe rogan
Compost.
andrew schulz
That's the best argument for compost.
It's like, don't support the Nazis.
joe rogan
Right, but he's already dead.
It's large scale.
Like, large scale composting is a real issue.
You need a lot of biological waste to make some large scale composting.
But this Hopper thing is really, it's a crazy story, man.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it sort of embodies this situation where you've got a guy who did this incredible thing that helped so many people, but also did this horrible thing that killed so many people.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Why were the Germans so advanced technologically at that time?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
They're advanced with engines, with car design, with rocketry.
andrew schulz
But why?
What is it?
joe rogan
It's hard to say.
I mean, they're just brilliant fucking people.
andrew schulz
But it's not like they weren't in close proximity to other people in Europe.
You'd think that technology would be shared.
That's just so...
joe rogan
Dude, it was so crazy how advanced they were that the United States took the Nazis in to run NASA. Right.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Space Force.
joe rogan
Space Force.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's new.
Operation Paperclip.
They brought in Nazis.
unidentified
Right.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
Didn't the Russians, too?
I think they, like, split up all the scientists.
joe rogan
They all went either to Russia or the United States.
All the biggest killers.
Wernher von Braun was a fucking straight-up Nazi.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center said that if he was alive today, they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
Wernher von Braun.
The guy who was the head of NASA. Fuck.
Bro.
Awful shit, man.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they used to hang the five slowest Jews in front of his rocket factory in Berlin.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Like, real, legit Nazi shit.
Yeah.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was the head of NASA. They just took all those brilliant scientists.
Look at him.
There he is.
Werner von Braun.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
With all the Nazis.
Yeah.
Big smile.
andrew schulz
It is interesting that, like, the brands that happened around the Nazis never, like, rebranded.
You know how, like, Volkswagen is still people's car.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
Like, which people?
joe rogan
Right, right.
andrew schulz
You know which people.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
And then, like, Hugo Boss, I think is just Hugo Boss.
Like, if you have a little...
joe rogan
Hugo Boss was a Nazi company?
andrew schulz
They made the fucking outfits!
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Didn't we talk about this?
andrew schulz
But isn't that, like, don't you...
You know how now if you have, like, a little...
Like, Pizza Hut was like, we remade the pizzas, they're way better, and, like, you would think that...
You would rebrand if you're attached to that.
You'd switch the name up in some way.
Jake Boss.
joe rogan
People had a different sensibility when it came to things back then.
andrew schulz
What you mean?
joe rogan
Because they let things go.
Like, the only thing they never let go is the swastika.
You can't bring back the swastika.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
But like, in those days after World War II... It's an Indian thing, right?
andrew schulz
Isn't it a Hindu symbol?
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
andrew schulz
So these poor Indians are walking around?
Say again?
joe rogan
It's in the other direction.
andrew schulz
Oh, okay.
But still, you can't wear it.
joe rogan
Hogan's Heroes was a fucking sitcom.
About Nazi concentration camps.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, they'd joke around about it in the 1970s, and that was just 20 years afterwards.
andrew schulz
Dude, that's an interesting discussion.
joe rogan
Imagine if we had a sitcom about 9-11.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
That's what Hogan's Heroes is like.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Same amount of time.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, dude, there was a time...
I'm trying to see if this is possible, but like, where like comedy and corporations could work together.
joe rogan
When was this?
andrew schulz
At the time you're describing, like, I don't think comedy and corporations can work together.
I think it's very difficult, right?
So it's like...
joe rogan
Well, back then, didn't comedy have to work with corporations or they couldn't work at all?
andrew schulz
Right, but the corporations were like, okay, just be funny.
That's fine.
You could do a show about this.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean a show about, like, Nazi concentration camps.
andrew schulz
Exactly.
Like, they're not policing.
I mean, insane.
joe rogan
And you know, the dude, Bob Crane, on the far right, was a freak.
andrew schulz
What do you mean?
joe rogan
He was, like, one of the first guys to film himself fucking.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
It was a great, great, great Kinnear movie.
andrew schulz
Big cameras back then.
joe rogan
Big cameras.
andrew schulz
You need, like, another person.
joe rogan
You knew you were being filmed.
It wasn't like your iPhone, which is nice and silent.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
You had to like set it up.
There's like a cape at the back of it.
joe rogan
Have a dude cranking it out while you're banging.
andrew schulz
Bro, who was filming?
Somebody had to do it.
joe rogan
There was a movie called, what was it called?
Something Focus?
Autofocus?
Right.
I think it was called Autofocus.
But it was a film about him and he got murdered by this dude that he used to bang girls with.
andrew schulz
Why?
joe rogan
Because they had a dispute.
They had a falling out.
Maybe they touched dicks.
andrew schulz
I don't know what happened.
joe rogan
Something happened, but it's a crazy movie.
It shows you how this guy was on that sitcom, but he was like, fuck movies, man.
I just want to bang.
He just became a porn star.
andrew schulz
I think about that all the time.
Think about that all the time.
Just fucking...
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
I think back then there was just very few rules.
Is this the movie?
Autofocus.
andrew schulz
Or we just cared less about shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Life wasn't that good.
joe rogan
Well, I think there was just less people yelling at you if you made the wrong choices, too.
Because there was no social media back then.
andrew schulz
That's also true, right?
So less people have a voice about what's wrong.
But I also think, like, in times of luxury...
Rules present themselves.
And then in times of chaos, rules strip.
At least in New York, I don't know how it was here, but during the shelter in place, during the pandemic, there was no more rules.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, same as here.
andrew schulz
Hey, you can't drink alcohol in the streets.
And then all of a sudden it was like, yeah, I guess you can.
unidentified
Right?
andrew schulz
Like, they just said you can.
And then there wasn't...
It was dangerous.
There wasn't anything like that.
You can't deliver alcohol.
You can only deliver food.
Oh, yeah, you can deliver alcohol.
You can't serve...
You can't eat on the street without a permit.
Okay, you can eat on the street without...
It just exposed...
That's all this corona thing did.
It exposed a lot of bullshit.
joe rogan
It definitely did that.
andrew schulz
Like, it fucking...
It took the makeup off.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, like you're at the club and like the girl's like beautiful and then like you guys go for like a skinny dip and then you're just like, whoa, dude.
You fucking tricked me, dude.
And I feel like, yeah, like that happened.
joe rogan
That happened with fucking TV. Well, they adapted, right?
They adapted with these new, looser regulations in order to keep us safe during this corona time.
andrew schulz
How does it keep me safe?
joe rogan
I saw the funniest thing today.
andrew schulz
What's that?
joe rogan
Something that said, use social distancing unless you're protesting.
andrew schulz
Can I tell you something, bro?
joe rogan
You see that?
andrew schulz
They put it on Fox!
It was like an official report.
I got the screenshot in here.
I'll beat you to it, Jamie.
I couldn't believe this.
Let me find it.
There it is right here.
joe rogan
Look.
andrew schulz
As public health advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission.
What?
This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-at-home orders.
So, protests against stay-at-home, that you can get corona.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Hey, don't say corona five times, or corona comes.
But protest for anything else, I think you're good.
It is really interesting, isn't it?
joe rogan
It's pathetic.
andrew schulz
Tell me if this is unethical, but tell me if this is right.
What if we, in support of Black Lives Matter, donated a percentage of all of our live shows so that we could have full audiences?
Now it's a public gathering in support of this cause and we're putting money towards a cause.
Putting money in our mouth.
Now some people of course say, you're using this cause to perform in front of more people.
And you're right.
But at the same time, we're doing the right thing.
unidentified
Everyone's benefiting.
andrew schulz
Everyone's benefiting.
It's mutually assured.
joe rogan
That would be interesting.
But then you're giving up your power to, whether it's Black Lives Matter or whatever, you're giving up your ability to just have a show It really should be that you want to give money to valid organizations, right?
andrew schulz
Of course.
Of course.
joe rogan
But the idea that you could get away with it, we have like a three-month exemption window where you could have full crowds.
Until they lift it, you could only have full crowds if you give 5% to fill in whatever the blank, whether it's Black Lives Matter, whatever people decide.
andrew schulz
Isn't this how they treat rich people anyway?
Hey, rich people, you've got to pay taxes.
Unless, of course, you'd like to donate to a charity, and then you don't have to pay that in taxes.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You could take some of that out.
Yeah, that's true.
In that way, you can kind of decide where your taxes go.
andrew schulz
And then who wins?
These organizations that are truly trying to help people.
joe rogan
But then, will the organizations drop it after a while?
Like, when do you have to keep paying them?
And what happens with them?
They become a big corporation, and then they shame people for not paying, and then it becomes a thing like, if you don't pay, you don't care.
They have power over you.
And this is one of the things that happened with COVID, with the people that were screaming, wear a fucking mask, wear a fucking mask.
They have power over you to tell you to wear a mask.
Are they really concerned?
Is that what's really going on?
Because it turns out, historically, they were wrong.
andrew schulz
They were wrong, yeah.
joe rogan
They were wrong, and yet you still, you can't go to places, I ordered tacos at Santa Barbara yesterday, I don't wear a fucking mask.
andrew schulz
Can I tell you?
joe rogan
The good tacos.
andrew schulz
Where'd you go?
Because I was in Santa Barbara, too.
We've had this conversation.
Do you remember the place?
joe rogan
I don't.
Some outside joint.
It's the shit.
andrew schulz
Oh, it's an outside joint.
joe rogan
I was probably right there with you, bro.
andrew schulz
Shalhoobs?
joe rogan
I don't remember the name.
andrew schulz
It's called Shalhoobs.
joe rogan
It could have been.
andrew schulz
They go, please put your mask on as we take you to your seat.
Now, when we're at your seat, you can take your mask off.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
andrew schulz
Can anybody explain to me what they thought I was going to do?
Spit on people.
Shame!
joe rogan
That's LA now.
LA is opening up restaurants and I had my friend Janet and Evan.
Janet is the owner and Evan is the lead chef of this restaurant, Felix.
In Venice.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
And they said that when people are in the restaurant, people have to wear their mask until they sit down.
Then when they go up to pee, if they get up to pee, they have to wear their mask.
If you go to leave, you have to wear your mask.
unidentified
There's no science.
andrew schulz
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
joe rogan
There's no science here.
You're all in a box together.
And this is an intimate restaurant in Venice.
It's not a big restaurant.
andrew schulz
It's the weirdest time.
unidentified
It's fucking dummies that they fucked up the first thing.
joe rogan
Now they're fucking this up.
andrew schulz
Yeah, because they just don't want to admit they're wrong.
They just don't want to admit they're wrong.
I get it.
I've been in that, you know, I've been in that argument.
You're with a friend or with your girl or some shit like that.
joe rogan
New Zealand lifts lockdown as it declares virus eliminated for now.
andrew schulz
And what did they do?
joe rogan
Well, there's only like a million people there.
No active coronavirus cases and no new infections.
Wow.
But you can't go over there.
Like, get out of here, you dirty bitch.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
They have a beautiful country with very few people.
I mean, I think the whole population of New Zealand is like, what is it, like 10 million?
jamie vernon
They are letting some exceptions, though.
joe rogan
Some people can come in?
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
Like us.
jamie vernon
For instance, James Cameron and the people making Avatar 2 have an exemption.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
jamie vernon
So there are exemptions for professional purposes.
andrew schulz
I see how it works.
jamie vernon
What if you had a show booked?
joe rogan
What if Andrew and I had a style bender?
andrew schulz
We gotta go see Izzy.
joe rogan
Andrew and I with style bender.
What if we had a show?
jamie vernon
Talk to your boy.
andrew schulz
We might have to do it.
joe rogan
All we have to do is take a test.
How about I take a test?
andrew schulz
There's no way to take a test without shoving that fucking thing all the way down my nose.
joe rogan
Bro, it's so easy now.
The new one.
andrew schulz
What's the new one?
joe rogan
Just a little Q-tip.
It just barely goes in the inside of your nose.
andrew schulz
And then done.
joe rogan
And then you're done.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I haven't taken a test.
joe rogan
I've taken seven of them, I think.
andrew schulz
And you're passing?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Every one of them.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
I don't know, dude.
I don't know.
I don't think I... Yeah.
Maybe I got it.
unidentified
I don't know.
Maybe I had it.
joe rogan
Do you take vitamins?
andrew schulz
No.
joe rogan
Never?
andrew schulz
No.
unidentified
Hmm.
andrew schulz
I don't know.
I think I got...
I don't know.
I knew I was over it.
Say again?
joe rogan
How well do you eat?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
I just eat in the morning and then the afternoon.
I don't eat a lot of bread and I don't eat a lot of refined sugar or none.
I try to cut them all out.
joe rogan
That's good.
andrew schulz
That's healthy.
My girl's an amazing cook so she throws it down.
joe rogan
Oh, there you go.
So you're eating healthy.
andrew schulz
I'm healthy.
I try to exercise but like...
I did it, you know, I was like super, you know, put the lotion on the hands and cover everything up for like maybe a couple weeks and then I was like, nah, this is not going to happen.
joe rogan
I was nervous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm not going to lie.
In the beginning I was terrified.
Two weeks though.
andrew schulz
When did you stop Karen?
I knew the moment I stopped Karen.
joe rogan
Well, I got my first test.
I took my first test like maybe two, three weeks in and everybody was clear.
I was like, all right, we're all good.
We're all good.
My whole family was good.
And then I started testing everybody in here.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then I knew eight people that got it.
And the eight people that got it, everyone was fine except for Michael Yeo.
Michael Yeo got it pretty bad.
But, in the interest of telling the whole story, if anybody ever heard this already, I'm sorry.
But Michael Yeo flew all the way to New York, no sleep, does fucking press, does radio, did two shows, did two shows the next day, flies back home, no rest.
Gets in the car, drives to Vegas to see his wife's family, hangs out there for a little bit, drives home same night.
Next day, auditions.
Next day after that, more auditions.
So you got no sleep, worn out, a lot of travel, stress, stress, stress, and then audition stress, and then boom, it hits him.
And it hit him, and it hit him pretty bad, and then he got on Advil, and he said that once he started taking Advil, it fucking spiked, and he got real bad, wound up being hospitalized.
Meanwhile, his mother got it.
She was all good.
She's in her 70s, I believe.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kicked it in a day.
One day.
Because she wasn't traveling.
She wasn't wearing herself out.
She eats healthy.
Whatever.
Whatever the reason is.
And he also had deficient vitamin D. That was a problem with Michael.
I think Mike just caught the perfect storm of being tired.
He felt like he might have been run down already.
Maybe he had a little bit of a cold.
Then got the COVID. And got the COVID with a bunch of his friends.
And I think they were all fine.
They all got it.
They got sick a little bit, but then they walked it off.
I think that's the case, but he got it real bad.
He's the only one that I know that got it real bad.
Everybody I know that got it, they got sick, they coughed a little bit, and then after a while it was over.
andrew schulz
It's just tricky.
You just don't want to kill your dad.
You don't want to kill your mom.
That's really what it comes down to.
I don't give a fuck.
We said the guys that work with me, we all basically said, if one of us gets it, we all get it.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And that was the thing.
We just kept working.
joe rogan
Spitting each other's mouth, right?
andrew schulz
I mean, yeah, you know, just white boy fun.
Yeah, it was regular shit.
joe rogan
On a bull.
The other thing is with Mike, on a bull, on a bull, like spitting each other's mouth while you're riding a bull.
That's white boy shit.
Yeah.
One of the things they were saying is with kids, they were like, my kids, they were like, you know, we don't know if they're ever going to be able to go back to school again.
Might have to do remote schooling and all this different.
I'm like, kids aren't even getting sick.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if they do get sick, it's not very many of them.
Meanwhile, you don't shut down shit for the flu, and the flu kills kids.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
This disease kills an incredibly small number of children.
It's always a tragedy when a kid dies of any disease.
So it's not like we're saying that those kids don't count.
Right.
To say that it's dangerous for kids, it's like, it's dangerous for a very small number of kids.
Very, very small.
The flu is dangerous for all kids.
The flu fucking kills kids.
You don't test these teachers to see if they have the flu.
You don't test the security.
You don't test people.
You tell them if they have the flu, stay home.
People get the flu all the fucking time.
And last year in America, 61,000 people died from it, from the flu.
So, more people die from COVID. I don't know how many more.
I don't know.
I think the number they're attributing to it is 110,000 now.
andrew schulz
110,000.
joe rogan
But I don't know if that's more or less than the real number because they're wondering, are people dying of COVID that they're not counting?
Are people dying of other things and they're counting it as COVID? There's a lot of dispute as to what the real number is.
Let's say it's accurate.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
110, it's basically less than twice as bad as a bad flu.
I don't think that's enough to shut down the fucking economy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think people need to make good choices.
But meanwhile, they don't say a word about taking care of yourself.
Not a word.
Not a word about don't drink so much.
Not a word about don't eat sugar.
Not a word.
Get your sleep.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Here's how important sleep is to your immune system.
Not a word.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
What do you think changes?
What do you think doesn't recover after this?
joe rogan
Bro, restaurants are fucked.
andrew schulz
I think people go right back.
joe rogan
They will go right back, but the restaurants don't have the money to stay open.
andrew schulz
Oh, yeah.
So, like, businesses that operate on a fringe are done.
Like, the businesses are like, alright, I got money this month, we can stay open.
I think they operated in a world that never considered that we could have some sort of calamity like this.
joe rogan
Well, that was what Janet, the owner of Felix, was saying, is that most of these restaurants, they make like 14% profit.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what they operate on.
If you shut them down for three months, they're fucked.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And some of them don't even operate well, that well.
They're operating on 4% profit.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
You know, they're barely making it.
They're barely getting by.
They're not doing so well.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's like...
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Corona exposed pre-existing conditions both physically and economically.
jamie vernon
You're right.
andrew schulz
Like, if your business had these pre-existing conditions, you are barely surviving, Corona's cutting you out of there.
joe rogan
You're right.
unidentified
I think that's...
andrew schulz
I keep on looking at, like, TV... You know, like you see all these like shows going to being filmed in their home and it's like, oh fuck.
joe rogan
Jimmy Fallon.
andrew schulz
Like Fallon and all these guys, they're doing it in their home now and it's like...
joe rogan
Weird.
andrew schulz
Not only is it weird, it's like without all the lights, without all the makeup...
joe rogan
How about no audience?
andrew schulz
Without the laughs, the laugh tracks, all of a sudden it looks real elementary, right?
unidentified
Yes!
andrew schulz
And people kept hitting us up like you were so gracious, you know, reposting all this stuff.
And like for me, when I saw everybody come to YouTube...
I was like, oh, it's a home game now.
Like, the second I was like, you can't go to the studio, and we had the studio built, and my guys were like...
joe rogan
Perfect timing with your studio.
Perfect timing.
andrew schulz
Bro, it was...
And if I did explain to anybody why I was going to build a studio prior to all this, they'd be like, you are the stupidest guy with money I've ever heard in my entire life.
joe rogan
Really they were saying that to you?
andrew schulz
No, they didn't say it, but if I explained how much money I spent on the studio and I had zero way of making the money back, because I know this is bad investment strategy, but I never go, oh, if I put this in now, 10 years is later.
All I go is, I really want to do this, and if I love this enough, I'll find a way to make money on it, right?
Right.
joe rogan
That's how I live my whole life.
andrew schulz
Honestly, it works.
joe rogan
That's how I do it.
andrew schulz
If you're investing in fucking companies that you have no clue what they are, maybe you do it other way.
But if you're investing in the shit that you love, it will work out.
It sounds stupid.
We sound like Gary Vee.
joe rogan
But you know what?
andrew schulz
Go sell some shit in your backyard!
joe rogan
It works because you're chasing what you really enjoy.
You know that if you build a studio, you'll get to do some of the clips, like these things that you're putting up on Instagram, and it's what you really enjoy.
andrew schulz
Dude, it is.
It was so cool.
It was so cool.
Just to see everybody come in.
And it was like, you know in the superhero movies where the supervillain loses their powers and then has to fight the hero on an even playing ground?
And it's like, oh this is what we're doing now?
It's over.
I really genuinely believe it.
And it's a pain in the ass.
It's hard work putting out the pieces, man.
Shout out to my guys who do an amazing job.
Mark Gagnon, comic, he writes it with me.
joe rogan
I love how they have the graphics in the back to match all the shit you're talking about.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And you know, we stole the John Oliver graphics.
joe rogan
Did you?
andrew schulz
Or like background.
joe rogan
Where they go?
andrew schulz
No, not where they go, but like the image, like the imagery in the background.
We literally just looked at every show.
We're like, all right, who's the best?
And we're like, we want to look just like them.
So they compare us immediately.
unidentified
It was like, I want the smoke right now.
andrew schulz
For once, you guys gotta fucking compete with me.
You gotta do it grassroots.
We're in the fucking jungle.
It's just YouTube clips.
It's just a few guys making it.
joe rogan
You're also, you're unshackled.
Like the prolific use of the word retard is a perfect example.
Yes.
Unshackled.
You could basically say whatever you want to be funny.
andrew schulz
Yeah, because who's canceling me?
joe rogan
Hamstrung.
Hamstrung, first of all, it has to be a television show.
andrew schulz
Keep going, this is interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, it has to be a television show which has advertising, so it has to be, even though he's on the internet now essentially, I mean he's doing it from his home from a webcam, you still have to do it under the same FCC restrictions.
You don't have to do that.
You're buck wild.
You put it on YouTube and putting those clips up on Instagram.
andrew schulz
Not only FCC constrictions, DNC constrictions.
You know what you gotta say.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
You know you gotta tell the company line.
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
You have affiliations.
andrew schulz
Honestly, I really believe the reason why our shit blew up so quick.
Outside of you reposting it, obviously that's magnificent.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
joe rogan
Keep doing it.
andrew schulz
100%.
joe rogan
I'll keep posting it.
andrew schulz
We will.
I really believe and I think it's a similar effect to what happened with you guys which was We just said the truth Obviously in a funny way.
It's five minutes jam-packed a fucking laser beam Someone who needed some bars this week someone who needed to be told that they're fucking idiots, right?
But we said The truth doesn't have a party And if we just find truth, and I'm not talking about statistics or any of that kind of shit, I'm literally talking about gut feeling.
joe rogan
Funny shit.
andrew schulz
When you look at Biden, you're not going, this is a president.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Right?
You're not going, you're not saying that at all.
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
So it's like, and I'm just sitting here, I'm going, is nobody fucking talking about this?
Like, I'll message some guys that work for CNN, I won't say their names, but I'll just DM, I'll be like, bro, I appreciate your support, you're great, you're sweet.
Is he senile?
They'll say yes!
unidentified
And I'm like, why aren't you saying it on a fucking TV? Because they want him to win no matter what.
andrew schulz
I know.
So everybody...
joe rogan
They just don't want Trump.
andrew schulz
This is the thing with the...
What I was saying with like corporations and comedy.
What do we do as comics?
We make fun of the absurd, the fucking asinine.
We make fun of institutions.
That's what we do.
You and I will be out there, we'll be fucking playing pool, and we'll be thinking about these institutions that we want to give justice to in a weird way.
We give justice with words.
We're like, you're not going to get away with it.
And that's where we operate.
We operate in this space like, oh no, you're not getting away with it.
But right now, there's such a cost.
For saying the wrong things, even in your friend group.
Even your friend group.
So what we basically said is, when we sit down, we're like, okay, I know I feel this way about something.
We're going to construct an argument around this thing that is true that is so solid.
I don't care if you're on the left or the right.
You cannot refute it.
And it's fucking painstaking.
But it works, and the coolest thing is seeing these people on the left and the right Watch this clip, both find it funny, and both agree, and you realize 99% of us are not left or right.
There's one fucking issue that takes us over.
We're literally in the middle, watching these idiots on either side of the extreme say stupid shit we don't give a fuck about.
99% of us are right here.
joe rogan
There's a lot of us in the middle.
andrew schulz
Okay, 90% in the middle, and then abortion might take us left or right.
But the rest of stuff...
joe rogan
War, the economy, there's a few things.
But the thing about the Biden thing that made it so maddening is it's not like he's the only one.
It's not like they didn't have a lot of other candidates.
It's not like there wasn't a lot of other people they could have put in office that people would have voted for over Trump, including Bernie.
Because guess what?
Right now, Bernie was running right now?
If Bernie was still in the heat right now, he could have won.
andrew schulz
You know the term a lot of people are saying, like, don't talk about the good cops, because if they were good, they would have called out the bullshit.
joe rogan
Right?
Yeah.
andrew schulz
That's Bernie to me.
joe rogan
In a lot of ways, right?
andrew schulz
Bernie is, and I fucking supported Bernie, man, not because I agree with his policies at all.
I just thought he genuinely wanted to help.
He didn't want to win.
He seemed like he wanted to help.
And I was like, I'll support a guy that wants to help.
joe rogan
What was the bill that he didn't show up to vote for?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
joe rogan
There was something, Jamie, what was that thing that had to do with, it was in the Patriot Act.
It was a new revision that everybody was freaking out.
All the progressives were like, Bernie didn't even show up for this.
Like, that this is really important.
It had something to do with surveillance.
What does it have to do with?
Put it up.
Oh, okay.
But check this out, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you want to be mad at him more.
The Senate voted to let the government keep surveilling your online life without a warrant.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, for this...
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Failed by just one vote.
andrew schulz
And it was Bernie that didn't show up.
Here's the thing with Bernie that I'll say.
joe rogan
Okay, hold on a second.
Many senators wanted to forbid the government from secretly collecting information about your internet habits.
But an amendment failed by just one vote.
Meaning, if Bernie was there, he could have made that thing fail.
andrew schulz
Could have stopped it.
joe rogan
But he didn't.
andrew schulz
Yep.
joe rogan
He didn't.
That is fucked up.
andrew schulz
Look.
joe rogan
Two others, Ben Sasse and Bernie Sanders, didn't respond to a request for comment on where they were during the vote.
andrew schulz
Yep.
joe rogan
Couldn't vote because he's quarantined.
What?
So one guy said he couldn't vote.
Lamar Alexander couldn't vote because he's quarantined.
Why didn't they just ask him?
Hey, Lamar, can we get you on video?
How you voting?
Yay or nay?
andrew schulz
Yeah, why do you need to be in the room?
joe rogan
Right.
And then Bernie didn't show up, and they didn't respond to a request for comment on where they were during this important vote.
That's exactly what you were talking about.
andrew schulz
This is another great example.
The most egregious example to me is you got ass raped by the DNC twice.
joe rogan
Twice.
andrew schulz
They bent you over, no saliva, and fucked you, and you didn't say shit!
Just fucking say it, dude!
Now granted, you weren't good enough.
Trump is an example of someone who was good enough to beat the party that didn't want him to be there, right?
Like, nobody in the Republican Party wanted Trump to win, right?
But then they all eventually got behind it because you tore the company line, whatever.
He wasn't good enough, and also the Democrats have systems that don't allow that shit, you know, these superdelegates and all this bullshit, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they get sneaky.
andrew schulz
I love it when the Democrats talk about, why do we need to abolish the Electoral College?
What about your primary?
joe rogan
Twice you fucked this old man up.
andrew schulz
It's crazy.
But the thing is, you could have done it, man.
You had the opportunity.
joe rogan
Well, how about the fact that they all backed off at the same time and allowed...
unidentified
They set his ass up.
andrew schulz
Yeah, for Super Tuesday.
They set his ass up.
All of them set his ass up.
But call that out, dude.
Call that shit out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's not that guy.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, he seemed like a really nice guy when I met him and talked to him.
I think he's maybe too nice.
But the fact that he didn't vote against that, though, the ability to just surveil you anytime they want without a warrant, Yeah.
andrew schulz
It's weird.
I mean, I assume they're looking at all our shit anyway.
joe rogan
Of course.
For you.
They're definitely your shit.
andrew schulz
You think?
joe rogan
100%.
andrew schulz
Why do you say that?
joe rogan
Because you're funny.
You're funny.
You've got a lot of influence.
You talk a lot of shit.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, if somebody watches your video on Joe Biden, it's very possible they might not vote for him.
That's real.
andrew schulz
Interesting.
joe rogan
For sure.
Listen, man, this is a meme society.
People are barely paying attention.
If you get into that box and you start thinking about some of the funny punchlines you had in that Joe Biden video, come on, man.
andrew schulz
People might go, fuck that dude.
joe rogan
Yo, Andrew, I said, fuck that dude.
I voted for Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's real possible, man.
Especially in the Midwest, the areas.
Look, California's not going to matter.
In New York, it's not going to matter.
People vote blue, no matter who.
But when you get to those middle states that can swing either way, who fucking knows?
andrew schulz
But you don't find it weird, dude, that there's no fair...
Comedy in this lane.
And by fair, I'm not trying to say that people aren't unfair.
Like, I think, you know, Trevor and John are really good, you know, like SNL and these places.
But like, I know what they're gonna say before they say it.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Like, I know the opinion before they say it.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
So, doesn't that take away some of the most necessary component to comedy, which is surprise?
joe rogan
Well, it's what Dennis Miller did back when Bush was president.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
Do you remember that?
andrew schulz
No, he do.
joe rogan
Wouldn't make fun of him.
Said, I'm gonna give him a pass.
He's my friend.
andrew schulz
Nah, bro.
Nah, bro.
You get these bars, bro.
Everybody gets these bars.
That's what you gotta do.
You gotta write the ecosystem.
I hate...
Over-inflating our importance as comics, because I know a lot of people can do that.
But I really think we're here to manage the ecosystem.
joe rogan
Well, you know, in other cultures, it's actually an important function.
Like in the Lakota.
In the Lakota Indians, they had a thing called a hayoka.
And a hayoka was a guy who made fun of everything.
He was a clown, who was a contrarian, who mocked all the important things.
And they were like...
My tour is called Sacred Clown Tour.
andrew schulz
For that reason.
joe rogan
That's why.
That's what Hayoka means to the Lakota people.
It's a sacred crown.
andrew schulz
They understand the importance of it.
joe rogan
A sacred clown.
Someone who makes fun of important things.
Because it's important.
Anything that you can't make fun of is bullshit.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't make fun of it?
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if you say, you know, the Lord's name in vain.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't say that.
Don't say, God damn it.
Like, really?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
Why can't I say it?
What is it about not being able to say things?
Well, people have power of you.
They can tell you that you can't say those things.
And whether it's talking about certain subjects or using certain words, it's all the same thing.
It's people enforcing their ability to call you out and have control over you.
andrew schulz
And that's the thing where it's like...
Where comedy in institutions are tricky because you can't make fun of the institution you're in, right?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
So you have to make fun of the opposite institution, even if you don't necessarily believe that way.
unidentified
Right.
andrew schulz
So all these institutions tend to be left-leaning.
They only are allowed to make fun of the opposite institution.
joe rogan
Exactly.
andrew schulz
Right?
unidentified
Right.
andrew schulz
So here we came in, literally just in the middle, and going, oh yeah, the joke is actually right-wing today.
Or like, yeah, the topic is actually left-wing.
We balance side-by-side, but it's not based on what the institution wants us to be a part of.
It's literally based on what the joke is, and what the best version of joke is, and what is...
What I guess I would call truthful.
What is the truth?
I want to make the argument so you're not fucking scared to talk to your friends about how you feel.
joe rogan
Bro, if you tried to pull that shit off on NBC, they would pull you aside.
They would have a conversation with you.
andrew schulz
It drives me crazy, man.
It's like...
Honestly?
Maybe it's an unpopular opinion.
I don't know.
I'm really impressed with Trevor and John's...
joe rogan
Jon's got great writing.
andrew schulz
Bro, they're great.
Jon is really great.
The writing's really great and it's produced well.
But I'm impressed that they even do it.
Like, imagine like moving to another country and then immediately making fun of half the country that you've never even visited.
You got some fucking balls.
Like, if I moved to England and I lived in London and just trashed Northern England on a TV show, I would never feel comfortable doing that.
I'd be like, I don't know enough about y'all.
unidentified
And like, that's weird for me to just do this for a living, guys.
andrew schulz
That's not weird to you?
joe rogan
It's weird.
andrew schulz
Like, how accepting is America?
We just let people just come and just trash?
Half?
You never lived in Alabama?
Alabama's a punchline.
Have you ever lived in Alabama?
Arkansas's a punchline.
Have you lived there?
You know what I'm saying?
It's just shocking to me that you could feel comfortable doing that.
And then I hear all these jokes about like calling out the greed, like conservative greed.
And it's like, you guys could make tons of money in your own countries, but you came here because you wanted more.
You wanted more money.
joe rogan
That's definitely true.
andrew schulz
I'm just saying, dude, it's just...
joe rogan
But it's also, everybody knows our politics.
Like, our politics are global.
Like, you go to Australia, they make fun of our president.
You have no fucking idea who the president of Australia is.
It's kind of different in that way.
And the other thing that's an issue is, we get hoodwinked by salesmen with British accents.
Every time.
andrew schulz
Keep going.
joe rogan
Whatever it is, watch late night TV. When someone's trying to sell you a fucked up mop that you don't really need, they're doing it through an English accent.
They have a British accent.
They have some sort of an accent.
It makes them think they are superior.
andrew schulz
It is.
joe rogan
Look at this product.
It's an amazing thing.
Look at what it does.
It's a radio.
It's a blender.
andrew schulz
It's a fantastic accent.
joe rogan
Whether it's David Attenborough, who's...
Narrating some documentary.
andrew schulz
The guy talks about Beatles.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Like they're the most fascinating thing.
joe rogan
You don't want a guy from Brooklyn talking about chimps.
You don't want a guy from Philly talking about tuna.
It's fucking tunas.
andrew schulz
This is a bonobo.
unidentified
They're out there.
andrew schulz
It fucks its sister.
joe rogan
These tunas, they're out there in these gigantic packs.
unidentified
They're swimming around.
joe rogan
Even if they're saying all the right words, you don't want them sounding like that.
Even if they're saying super intelligent shit with any kind of an East Coast accent, sounds dumb as fuck.
Same as Southern, right?
Someone says some super intelligent shit about the ocean, the ecosystem, but they say it with a Southern accent, you're like, what?
Same words, British accent, we're all in.
So if someone is mocking our culture, what better way than a culture that's known to be very proper?
andrew schulz
So you think it's by design?
They're like, people will trust these opinions more because it's coming from these guys who have this accent that has equity.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
Interesting.
joe rogan
There's definitely something to that.
Because they could have hired Al Madrigal to run a daily show.
They could have hired a lot of other people that would have been amazing at that job.
I think John Oliver's great.
I really do.
I think he does a great job.
Something funny about the way he attacks things.
andrew schulz
The show is really well done.
joe rogan
Yes.
It's very good writing, too.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's the second best show after ours.
It's really good.
joe rogan
But they're saddled down by the fact that they're on HBO. Like, if you're in that liberal establishment and you're in that, like, there's weird conversations that are had where people aren't looking at the jokes that are about the left.
They're not going to make fun of Hillary.
They're not going to make fun of Joe Biden.
They're not going to make fun of Nancy Pelosi or any other prominent liberal.
They're just not going to do it, even if the joke is there.
andrew schulz
So what's the point?
joe rogan
Well, it's weird, right?
andrew schulz
What's the fucking point?
joe rogan
Which weird is when you see it in the news, right?
Like, the difference between the way they covered women that had allegations against Trump versus women that have had allegations versus Joe Biden.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very different.
Very different the way they cover it.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah, there is that obvious bias, I guess.
Maybe it's because, like, I was looking at, like, news organizations, I think, like, back in the day, everybody knew that they were biased.
Like you just knew, yeah, like late 1700s to like early 1800s.
I think they even like enacted a law that said you couldn't criticize the president or his views or something like that in the press.
joe rogan
Well, that's how it is in China.
I mean, journalists have fucking been ghosted in China.
andrew schulz
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh my God, yeah.
People disappear.
Hundreds of journalists, they just disappear.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, they don't fuck around.
andrew schulz
In China?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
So then why can't they close down the bat thing?
joe rogan
Well, they...
andrew schulz
I hate that they make this argument that they have control of everything and everybody can get killed.
It's like, well, you can't just close the market where they sell the penguins.
joe rogan
First of all, they did, kinda.
andrew schulz
And then they opened back up in like a week.
joe rogan
But if you listen to them...
I don't listen to them.
I don't think they're telling the truth.
But their story is that only 30,000 people died.
Now, if you think about the 110,000 people that died here, and then in China, you're talking about literally a billion people.
andrew schulz
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't buy it.
andrew schulz
Come on, bro.
It's a weird time, man.
And I'm surprised these corporations don't get it when you see platforms like this, which literally let people speak, and they have different opinions and different points of view.
And you see the entire world gravitate towards it because we're addicted to truth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Like, we like truth.
We like to confirm our bias.
We like even more of the truth.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's a reason why conspiracies are so fun, right?
Because we're like, wait a minute, is that the truth?
Like, what's going on in here?
I want to really know.
Like, deep down, don't you really want to know what's going on?
You want to know how all this shit works?
Oh, yeah.
So it's like...
joe rogan
It's exciting.
andrew schulz
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
It's also, people like to solve puzzles.
That's why you go and, you know, you play games.
People want to win.
They want to solve things.
If I can catch you being a lizard person behind the scenes, look at that, the fucking world's flat.
I knew it.
Look at the evidence.
I'm going to send you some evidence, man.
I'm telling you, I'm going to change your mind.
There's a lot of people that want to tell you about things.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
A dude just sent me a Bigfoot thing the other day.
Smart guy.
Believes in Bigfoot.
andrew schulz
Yeah, Charlemagne believes in Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Does he?
andrew schulz
100%, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it used to be a real thing.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
That's the problem.
Yeah, it used to be Gigantopithecus.
They've actually found bones of a large bipedal hominid that lived as recently as 100,000 years ago.
So it lived alongside of people.
And they found fossilized bones in China in the 1920s.
There was an anthropologist that visited this apothecary shop and he found these bones that were primate bones, much larger than any primate bone he'd ever seen before.
And so they said, where'd you get this?
And they took him to the site and they started digging up bones.
And so they know it was a real animal.
They think it was very orangutan-like, but it was huge.
You never heard of it before?
andrew schulz
Never heard of it.
joe rogan
Show the picture of Gigantopithecus compared to a human being.
andrew schulz
I'm never going to hear the end of this.
It used to be a real thing.
joe rogan
Well, here's where it gets even crazier.
This animal lived in Asia.
Asia is connected by the Bering Strait, which connected Asia to North America.
andrew schulz
That's why you see it in the Northwest.
joe rogan
See, go to which one?
That one right there.
We just added a little bit about right there.
Bang.
Perfect.
Look at that.
That's what it would have looked like.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that is a, you know, a recreation.
But you're talking about a bipedal animal that's eight to ten feet tall.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it was an enormous primate with like, you know, a Bigfoot looking face, man.
Just go to that picture.
Just make that picture bigger.
That motherfucker was Bigfoot.
So the reason why there's all these stories, these myths, is that as recently as 100,000 years ago, that was a real thing.
So people definitely saw that thing walking around.
So they probably talked about it in folklore and in stories.
And who knows what the fuck that thing even ate.
I mean, it might have ate people.
We don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, there's a lot of primates that eat other primates.
Like chimps eat the fuck out of monkeys.
andrew schulz
Really?
joe rogan
David Attenborough.
You want to watch?
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
Pull up to David Attenborough.
They hunt.
They hunt monkeys.
They corral them in.
It's the most ruthless shit because there's a video of this chimp eating a monkey while it's alive.
It's holding on to the monkey and biting its hips and just pulling chunks of meat while the monkey's screaming like, like his little primate face screaming while this monkey's just eating them alive.
andrew schulz
I thought that they do like ants on a stick or something like that.
joe rogan
They do everything they can eat.
They're omnivorous.
It means they eat everything.
They're like humans.
They're omnivores.
They eat meat, they eat vegetables, they eat fruit.
But they didn't figure this out until the 1990s.
Attenborough was doing this documentary and there it is.
So these trackers took him and they show how the monkeys are...
Was this the one?
That is a chimp eating a monkey.
This one is on the forest floor.
I think the one I saw was in a tree.
andrew schulz
That was the monkey's hand right there.
joe rogan
This is the video.
So, this is really dark shit, man, because they chase these monkeys, and the monkeys get scared, and they're trying to figure it out, and they're trying to run away.
But the chimps are bigger and stronger, and they corral them in.
And so once they get them, man, they're tearing them apart.
It's horrible to watch.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
See, now the monkey's trying to get away, and this is the footage of the monkey trying to escape, and the chimp comes chasing after him and grabs him.
And now once he grabs him, it's rough, bro.
They kill babies, everything.
They eat them all.
So he grabs him.
See, he's got him there.
See that shit?
So he's gonna pull him down, and then once the chimp has the monkey, he gets to a spot where he can eat.
And I think they fight over who gets to eat the monkey.
And then eventually he wins.
But look, he's got this monkey in his hand, and he's just gonna pull it apart.
It's rough, man.
When you see them eating it, like, look, here it is.
andrew schulz
Aw, dude.
joe rogan
That's all it shows?
Aw, dude.
I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it.
You'd have to see, there's...
We'd have to get Jamie the right video in advance because there's probably hundreds of them out there, but there's one that came from that show that's really rough to watch because this monkey is alive and awake.
All this chimp is just biting him and pulling him apart.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
But anyway, you got it?
Yeah, here it is.
See, here it is.
She's grabbing it.
Look.
andrew schulz
Aw, dude.
jamie vernon
Wasn't alive there.
unidentified
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
So this is one where they're just pulling it apart, but there's a great one where the monkey is fucking screaming.
Oh, dude.
andrew schulz
Yeah, this is gnarly.
joe rogan
It's hardcore, man.
How do we get onto this?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
Something...
joe rogan
Gigantopithecus might have eaten people.
That's what it was.
Thank you, Jamie.
andrew schulz
And why were we on Gigantopithecus?
joe rogan
Bigfoot's real, because Charlamagne believes in Bigfoot.
andrew schulz
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Bigfoot was a real thing, but here's the thing.
Did that thing eat people?
I don't know.
If a chimp can eat a monkey like that, why wouldn't that thing eat a person?
andrew schulz
We're the monkeys.
joe rogan
Yeah, it probably eats everything it can.
That thing's so big, if that thing was omnivorous, and I don't think they know if it's an herbivore.
I mean, they didn't even know chimps were, like, again, until the 90s.
andrew schulz
Yeah, this is just so...
All this shit is so odd.
Like the deeper you go down the rabbit hole, the less you understand, man.
joe rogan
So where you see Bigfoot, like if you're one of them Bigfoot freaks...
andrew schulz
In the north...
joe rogan
It's all in the northeast.
unidentified
The northwest, yeah.
joe rogan
The northwest, rather.
It's all...
I mean, there's sightings all over the country, but that's just because people are full of shit.
andrew schulz
Predominantly over there.
joe rogan
I think most of it was in that spot.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a rainforest up there.
The Pacific Northwest is so dense.
I bet it probably lived there for a long time.
unidentified
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
And it died off.
andrew schulz
That's all you need.
You need a shred of truth for stuff.
I remember when I was in Egypt, right?
And I texted you when I was in Egypt because I watched every one of your films.
I'm going to Cairo to see the pyramids, right?
And I realized I haven't even really researched the pyramids.
So I do this deep dive and I'm watching Graham Hancock.
And there's another guy that you had on.
joe rogan
Randall Carlson, Dr. Robert Schock.
andrew schulz
Maybe that was it.
I don't know, but I'm just watching everything.
joe rogan
Dr. Shock is the geologist.
andrew schulz
He passed recently or something like that?
joe rogan
No, he's still...
Oh, John Anthony West.
John Anthony West.
andrew schulz
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, him.
joe rogan
He's the godfather of it all.
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And so I'm watching everything.
I'm obsessed.
And we go and we check them out.
And...
It was the single most, like, unbelievable thing I've ever seen.
It makes you, like, question reality a bit.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew schulz
Yeah, like, I get why people go, oh, aliens.
In the same way, like, have you ever seen the Northern Lights?
joe rogan
No, I haven't.
Only on video.
andrew schulz
But, like, you see them in real life and you're like, oh, shit!
What's going on?
joe rogan
Like, alright, God, alright!
andrew schulz
Yeah, like, it's believable!
joe rogan
Where did you see them?
andrew schulz
Alaska.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah.
Did you go up just to see them?
No, I did comedy.
Yeah.
Not in Anchorage, the other city.
joe rogan
Um, Juneau?
andrew schulz
Nope.
It's like a little military city.
Fairbanks.
Fairbanks.
joe rogan
That's really far north.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's cold up there.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What time of the year was it?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
Cold?
joe rogan
I don't know.
August?
andrew schulz
I really don't know.
I forget.
But maybe, like, maybe fall?
Yeah, fall or something like that?
joe rogan
It has to be, like, the wintertime, right?
andrew schulz
I don't think it was winter.
I would remember if it was, like, cold, cold.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
andrew schulz
But I think in fall, if it gets cold enough, you can see them.
I saw them one day the second I landed.
unidentified
Is it warm?
andrew schulz
Right after the airport.
Just fascinating.
In the same way with the pyramids, like, I remember watching them, and I'm like, okay, this question's reality, like, things are different now.
And I remember reading or watching the videos, and one guy said, like, time isn't, or, like, human progression isn't linear, and that was the coolest argument I've heard for it.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
The idea that, like, a society could pop up, be somewhat insulated, so they had tons of time and, like, wealth, and I guess wealth would be in resources back then, develop technology, die out, That technology never goes to anybody else.
It just exists and then dies.
And then a few thousand years later, another group of people end up going there like, oh, there's some cool shit.
I'll hang out.
Right?
And that is the most reasonable explanation for me.
joe rogan
Building on that old stuff and trying to figure out how they did it and do their version of it.
There's a bunch of different, very distinct construction styles.
andrew schulz
Like, isn't that how we are as humans?
Like, okay, the Empire State Building is in this neighborhood.
That's a cool building.
I want to build a building over there.
joe rogan
How the fuck do they do this?
unidentified
I want to hang out.
andrew schulz
This is cool.
And he broke it down.
He was like, that specific spot is that there's an impenetrable forest on one side and there's a desert on the other side and there's a river that when it overflows, just fruit and vegetables just start sprouting out of the ground.
It's like, oh, this is how you would be able to have the wealth and time to develop cool shit.
Like, of course, we're developing cool shit in America because...
We're not busy fighting motherfuckers in our country all the time.
Like, yeah, Elon can develop all these cool things, drill a hole in the ground.
Why?
Oh, he's got nothing else to do.
joe rogan
Right, we're not in war.
andrew schulz
We're not in fucking here.
We're here!
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Like, if you were at war constantly, how could you develop?
joe rogan
Right.
And they were free for, like, thousands of years.
andrew schulz
Thousands.
Of course you're going to develop cool shit.
You'll find, like, I'm not talking about, like, internet, but obviously cool water technology.
I mean, it completely is plausible, but how they describe it, no way.
And you know it's not the same human beings because Cairo's a dump.
Like, Cairo is so awful that there's no way that the people who made Cairo also made the pyramids.
joe rogan
Did you feel safe there?
There you are.
Look at you handsome bastard.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at those sculptured cheeks.
unidentified
Jesus, son.
Yeah, baby.
andrew schulz
I mean, it's just...
It's unreal, dude.
23 weeks ago.
joe rogan
Half a year.
andrew schulz
It was unbelievable.
That was a different time.
I mean, look at this.
joe rogan
The structures, man.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
I can imagine seeing them in real life.
andrew schulz
Look how small the people are compared.
joe rogan
God damn, that's big.
andrew schulz
I mean, you just can't fathom it.
joe rogan
That's a big fucking building.
And what's crazy is it used to be covered in smooth limestone.
But these fucking people that built Cairo, they pilfered all that shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They broke all the chunks off of it to build other cool things.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
This was a cool little trip.
That's Morocco, I think.
No, is it?
joe rogan
What was...
Did you feel safe wandering through the streets there?
Was it a little sketch?
andrew schulz
I didn't do a lot of wandering.
My girl with me also said it's always like a different...
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
A different thing.
And it's like...
Yeah, I was told.
I had a guy who I knew that is a comic that was out there, and he's like, I'll show you around.
So we did that.
joe rogan
A comic in Egypt?
andrew schulz
Well, he's a comic in New York.
unidentified
Fadi.
andrew schulz
Shouts of Fadi.
joe rogan
Guy's having a hard time getting controversial jokes to go over.
andrew schulz
Not gonna happen.
Not gonna happen, dude.
joe rogan
Kill you quick over there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
Yeah, we're really lucky.
The shit we complain that we can't say is really funny.
What do you mean I can't say retardant?
joe rogan
But you can.
You just did.
See, this is the thing.
Because we're not on a network that's controlled by some sort of a business that worries one way or another.
andrew schulz
Right.
joe rogan
This business worries when people aren't controversial because then the podcasts don't do well.
andrew schulz
They're boring.
joe rogan
They want chaos.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you know?
andrew schulz
Well, chaos is the antidote.
I mean, that's the...
joe rogan
Well, it's also...
You know what we're saying.
You know, we're not talking about people.
Like, if you're on this podcast...
You're saying things to be funny.
Yeah.
That's what you're doing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're making points, you're making interesting points that you think there's a really a valid...
Valid, you know, perception of something that you've established.
And there's also talking shit.
That's talking shit.
Talking shit is fun.
andrew schulz
Judge me by my intent, not your interpretation.
What did I intend to do?
I intend to just fucking make us laugh.
joe rogan
Exactly.
andrew schulz
That's all it was.
joe rogan
That's the problem with banning a word like retard.
Like, sometimes it's not nice to say it about someone with a disease, but it's not nice to let someone keep making YouTube videos about the world being flat either without saying to them, hey man, That's fucking retarded.
That's what that is.
andrew schulz
That's what it is.
joe rogan
It's not a disease.
It is a slow form of learning.
You're slowing learning.
andrew schulz
Yeah, so we're calling people slow.
joe rogan
You're confusing people, too.
Because people watch those videos, and no one's interrupting you while you're making those videos, so it can make sense.
If you articulate and smooth and use a lot of big words and show a lot of faulty signs, People can go, oh my god, I can't believe all these years I've been lying to.
There's a bunch of people out there.
You ever look at hashtag space is fake?
andrew schulz
No.
joe rogan
You want to see a failure of the American educational system?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Google hashtag space is fake and start reading.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
Reading on YouTube and Instagram and fucking Twitter.
All these knuckleheads that really think that space is fake.
unidentified
Right.
Right.
joe rogan
Space is fake.
It's not really...
The moon is not really 260,000 miles away or whatever the fuck it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look, hashtag space is fake.
andrew schulz
Let's say, for example...
joe rogan
There's so many of them.
Coincidence?
andrew schulz
Let's say, for example, the world is flat, right?
Let's give them that.
joe rogan
I feel so dumb.
unidentified
But if it is, so what?
joe rogan
Well, the same thing we were talking about before, though, about conspiracy theories, about we like them.
They're fun.
You want to solve the puzzle.
And listen, let's be honest.
Most of the people, some people that just love conspiracy theories, but most of the people that get really attached to some of the really dumb ones, they're not doing so well in life.
Okay?
They're not.
They're not.
They're not thriving.
They're knuckleheads.
And knuckleheads get attached to these certain kinds of ideas.
And then if they could just prove that all this is bullshit, it doesn't matter how well you're doing, because the fucking world's...
They've been lying to us, man, this whole time.
The stars are not really stars.
They're lanterns being hung from some ceiling.
It's like...
Look, man, you can go deep on this and find people that are of varying levels of intelligence that believe dumber and dumber things.
andrew schulz
But you'll tap into some conspiracy stuff, right?
joe rogan
Occasionally, yeah.
Some of them are legit.
andrew schulz
So what do you go into and you're like, I kind of buy some of this?
joe rogan
I want to know what the deep state really is.
unidentified
Can we tell them what I texted you one time?
Dude, so there's no sports, so I have nothing else, so I just start getting into conspiracies.
andrew schulz
And every time I think I'm going too far, I'll text Joe.
And I remember I texted you and I was like, bro, what do you think about this Tom Hanks is a pedophile stuff?
joe rogan
I think you called me.
unidentified
I think you were so concerned.
You just called me and you're like, dude, what are you reading?
joe rogan
What is going?
unidentified
Pump the fucking brakes.
joe rogan
For whatever reason, on the internet, it became a thing to write in Tom Hanks' comments the photo that he's a pedophile.
Dude, I don't know what started.
Do you know what started that?
andrew schulz
I think it was this pizza.
I don't know what happened, but someone sent me something.
I started going in on it, and then I remember I came across something that was like, yeah, and that's why him and his wife, Rita Wilson, have coronavirus or something.
I was like, and I remember going to you, and I was like, is his wife's last name really Wilson?
And you're like, yeah.
I'm like, like the fucking volleyball?
unidentified
Yeah.
I'm like, what is happening right now?
Dude, what's going on?
andrew schulz
That's how it works, bro.
joe rogan
That's how it works.
andrew schulz
That's how it fucking works.
You almost lost me, dude.
joe rogan
Or we could be in the Matrix.
andrew schulz
Keep going.
joe rogan
We could be in a simulation.
If there is a simulation one day, it's gonna be impossible to tell.
They're gonna get it to a point.
Have you ever done any VR? You ever fuck with VR at all?
andrew schulz
Dude, I bought the sets.
unidentified
Ah.
andrew schulz
I saw you got the Oculus out there.
I got the same one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Obsessed.
joe rogan
It's pretty amazing, right?
andrew schulz
It is.
Same, it's the pyramids.
That's the second thing that I saw in my life, the VR headsets, the second thing I saw was like, this makes me question reality.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
andrew schulz
Dude, picking up the things?
That's nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Picking up the fake gun or picking up the ball, throwing it.
I watched that Alex Honnold thing, you know, the guy who climbs with no ropes or whatever, free solo.
There's a five-minute version you could watch on the VR. And you're up there with him, looking down.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
andrew schulz
It's unreal.
joe rogan
I can't do that one.
I get sweaty hands just watching his videos.
andrew schulz
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, watching a YouTube video literally makes my hands start perspiring.
andrew schulz
I mean, I'm afraid of heights big time.
joe rogan
He's so calm.
It's crazy.
andrew schulz
Something's off, right?
joe rogan
He's really nice, man.
Super normal.
Like when you talk to him, nothing seems off at all.
He seems like a guy who enjoys the challenge.
andrew schulz
But like fear receptors or something like that.
joe rogan
No, because he's had moments.
He's had some moments where he's like, generally the only time where you should be freaked out is when something's going wrong.
He goes, most of the time it's really mellow.
But he climbs this kind of shit.
andrew schulz
That's too crazy.
joe rogan
He's going this way, man.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's going up at an angle.
Yeah, it's nuts.
He's hard to handle.
andrew schulz
But go deep state.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I mean, we were talking earlier about George Soros videos and all these people that think that someone's pulling the strings from behind the scenes.
You know, the more I see crazy shit like the Jeffrey Epstein thing, where, I mean, again, I didn't watch much of the documentary because it was bumming me out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Seeing those 17-year-old girls talk about...
unidentified
Heavy, heavy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And some of them are 11 and 12. Like what?
unidentified
Heavy.
joe rogan
12 year old girls?
andrew schulz
Wild.
joe rogan
And he was purposely targeting them.
But he also had Bill Clinton fly to his island 20 times.
You know, he had all these different people flew on his planes.
He had all these celebrities.
Hillary flew there.
All these scientists, all these actors.
Like, what is that?
Who does that?
What's going on there?
Like, was there some grand scheme to compromise those people, to get those people on his side?
Whose side is his side?
You know, who worked for him?
Bro, he had a photo.
Of Bill Clinton in his foyer of his house.
andrew schulz
Yeah, dressed up as...
joe rogan
With a dress on!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like a woman pointing at him like this.
Like, what better way to say, I fucking own you, bitch.
andrew schulz
I got you, bro.
I got you.
joe rogan
I own you, bitch.
andrew schulz
But my curiosity is this, and this is just from watching the...
I watched the thing, and again, I don't know a lot.
A lot of people listening right now know way more about this.
Like, anytime I have questions, it's either you or Tim Dillon.
I call up Timmy, and Timmy fucking goes in.
joe rogan
Timmy.
andrew schulz
Oh, he's great.
If you think what you see in the videos is any different than him, you got another thing coming.
joe rogan
He brought me a book the first time I met him when he came on the podcast, a book on conspiracy theories.
He's like, we're trying to get you back in.
We're trying to bring you back in there.
andrew schulz
But that's genuinely him.
This is him.
Unapologetically, authentically him.
Great stuff.
Go check out Tim if you guys haven't.
But he was breaking down some interesting things with...
As far as this goes, right?
I'm just watching this documentary.
And it's blaming everything on Epstein.
And I'm like, okay.
This guy's the fucking criminal mastermind, really?
Like, he's the criminal mastermind, but he's doing all the secretarial shit?
I can't believe that, right?
And then they introduce this other guy.
This, like, Les Wexner guy.
The guy that owns, like, Victoria's Secret and that kind of stuff, right?
And they, like, introduce him quick, and they kind of, like, make it seem...
They go, uh...
Oh, he was actually, um...
I guess Epstein was like his only money manager or something like that.
He managed Wexner's money, right?
And then there's a clip of Wexner going, you know, I was tricked and I was manipulated.
And they have these other guys going, oh my god, Epstein's the most manipulative person in the world.
He charms you so much.
It's really setting it up like he tricked the billionaire into giving him tons of money.
At the end of the documentary, this girl, maybe you can get this picture up.
The girl paints a picture and shows people, right?
It's the last episode at the end.
And she just painted a picture of her experience there, right?
In the picture, it's her experience, all the things that were going on, all these like fucked up characters, etc.
They're talking about the picture and they use this section where they talk about Epstein, right?
Epstein's off to the right.
He's on a fucking UFO. He's not even centerfold in the picture.
He's barely in the picture.
Ghislaine, the girl, who's like, here's a comment, she's front and center, and then below her, I believe, is Wexner.
And I'm like, hmm, that's weird.
Why would you include this guy in front and center of the picture, but this guy over here, Epstein, this whole thing, he's the criminal mastermind, he's doing all this kind of stuff, is all by himself.
That's weird.
joe rogan
Hmm.
andrew schulz
Isn't it weird?
joe rogan
I would have to see it in the context of her story.
I don't have to see it in the context of her story, but yeah, it is weird.
All of it's weird, though.
Just the fact that there was a fuck island.
How weird is that?
andrew schulz
But is that what they do?
joe rogan
But imagine if there was a movie.
Imagine.
And in the movie, this guy would set up these freak parties on these islands and have all these guys fly in, scientists, celebrities, and bang 15-year-olds.
And film it.
And hold it against them.
That was the word, right?
But if you saw a movie, you'd be like, come on, Bill Clinton's not gonna fly 20 times to a fucking island.
andrew schulz
That's what makes no sense, dude.
joe rogan
He's got prostitutes.
He's got girls he can call.
He must.
If he needs it that bad, is he really gonna fly to his fucking island?
But if this guy was intelligence and he let them think that they're safe, don't worry.
No one's gonna say a fucking word.
Everyone's on board.
This is fine.
You can let you freak out on this island.
This is like the real Vegas.
What happens on Falk Island stays on Falk Island.
This is the real deal.
That's what they want.
Look, do you know how many of those guys in the 60s, in the 70s, politicians back then, just did openly, openly had affairs, right?
Like Kennedy, openly.
Everyone knew it.
The press all knew it.
How many guys were doing that?
How many mayors were doing that?
I bet a lot of them.
I bet that's why they became a mayor or a fucking president in the first place.
A lot of them wanted power.
A lot of them are, like, these politicians are like ugly actors.
They want to be an actor, but they're not good looking enough, so they just pretend to be righteous.
And they pretend to be, you know, the guy who's going to solve the mess.
The guy who's going to solve the problem.
And in the meantime, they're hobnobbing with industry and big bankers and celebrities are coming to their inauguration.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a big influence party going on.
unidentified
Here it is.
andrew schulz
Someone explain this to me.
joe rogan
Whoa, is that just Lane?
Is that her name?
How do you say her name?
andrew schulz
Ghislaine.
joe rogan
Ghislaine.
andrew schulz
I thought it was just Ghislaine.
joe rogan
So how is she free?
That looks like a lizard.
andrew schulz
So she's the lizard.
But look who's front and fucking center, dude.
What is going on?
joe rogan
Look at all the heads.
Well, that's a creepy-ass picture.
andrew schulz
Right, and where is Epstein?
joe rogan
Who's that guy with a blue shirt with a sandwich in his hand?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
joe rogan
Who's that guy?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is that John Podesta?
andrew schulz
Kevin Spacey.
I don't know.
Look to the right, though.
jamie vernon
This might be him up here.
andrew schulz
No!
unidentified
He's in the fucking UFO, dude!
andrew schulz
Top right!
You're telling me the criminal mastermind of all this...
Is the fucking supporting act?
Like, you're in the top right?
joe rogan
Ghislaine or Ghislaine?
andrew schulz
Why is she front and center, dawg?
joe rogan
And why does she have a body of a lizard?
How weird is that?
She's got some creepy lizard body.
andrew schulz
I don't know.
joe rogan
See, this is my point.
Like, if you put this in a movie before all this shit had happened...
andrew schulz
You'd never believe it.
joe rogan
You'd never believe it.
I'd be like, no one's that fucking manipulative.
They can get all these politicians to just fly to some island and film them having sex with underage people.
And if they did, they'd get caught.
Someone would rat it out.
And then...
Well, they caught him, and they brought him to jail, and oh, he just died.
He hung himself.
Like, what?
Oh, well, where's the security cameras?
Well, the security cameras weren't working.
andrew schulz
It's off.
It's off, too.
joe rogan
And then no one's talking about it.
andrew schulz
Bro.
joe rogan
We just get swept away with the news cycle.
New stuff, new things.
andrew schulz
This is the craziest thing about the Epstein thing.
They literally took El Chapo, right, and put him in that jail.
Because they're like, nah, something will happen to El Chapo in Mexican jail.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
So they're like, we got to put him in jail or something will definitely not happen.
joe rogan
Super top secret security clearance.
andrew schulz
The best jail.
joe rogan
The best.
andrew schulz
The best possible jail.
And then this guy just randomly.
joe rogan
Just hands himself.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the security cameras weren't working.
Whoops.
No big deal.
Meanwhile, that Michael Baden guy, the autopsy doctor from HBO, that autopsy series, this is a guy who's worked on a bunch of high profile cases.
andrew schulz
He did the George Floyd case.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He said the guy was murdered.
He said the injuries...
Well, I mean, the injuries of, no, the Epstein injuries were indicative of being strangled because the bones in his neck were snapped.
andrew schulz
I was talking about Floyd, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We did that as well.
Yep.
More doctors have done that as well with Floyd now, with George Floyd.
More doctors have done that.
It's clear.
You just watch it.
You can't imagine a world where that's not a homicide.
andrew schulz
It's so fucked up.
joe rogan
The Epstein thing, it was too low on his neck.
It wasn't indicative of someone who was strangled.
It was indicative of, or it wasn't indicative of someone who hung themselves.
It was indicative of someone who was strangled.
It was low on the neck, like the guys behind him pulling his fucking neck with a wire or a rope or some shit.
andrew schulz
Question for you.
Do you think they tell them, yo, we got the underage shorties on the island come through?
Or do you think they say, everyone here is overage, don't worry about it, everything's good.
Then they got it videotaped.
And they're like, by the way, they're all underage.
joe rogan
I think that's more the case.
I think if I had to guess, the most nefarious version of it, I doubt, is people sitting around going, hey, do you want to bang underage girls?
I think they'd probably say, hey, we're going to have this party.
It's on an island.
No one's going to be there but us.
It's fantastic.
It's top shelf accommodations.
We have girls there.
They're lovely.
Maybe they don't even tell them they have girls there.
I guess they probably tell them they have girls.
That's how they get them there.
andrew schulz
Hey, you want a pro out?
Hey, you want to put on the island, bro?
joe rogan
You guys want to go fishing?
andrew schulz
Hey, come on, bro.
We got some jet skis, dude.
It's going to be sick.
joe rogan
Fresh coconut milk.
Trust me.
And I think once they get them there, they get them drinking.
andrew schulz
And then once they're drinking, it's a wrap.
joe rogan
I bet they start partying.
There's the island, man.
So I think they start partying, and then the girls were probably either paid to or trained to be friendly to them.
And, I mean, the men are probably disgusting.
And you got a guy like Clinton, I mean, that guy, I mean, he would fuck a warm jar of peanut butter.
unidentified
He's an animal, you know?
joe rogan
I mean, he's an animal, right?
andrew schulz
This is how twisted my fucking brain is.
This is what happens when you're a comic and you're just trying to think about the different angle all day.
When you said, fuck a warm jar of peanut butter, I'm like, what would be the best condiment to fuck?
joe rogan
Peanut butter.
andrew schulz
Would it be peanut butter?
What would it be?
Jam?
joe rogan
You would need something thick and some easy resistance.
You know what you want?
You want organic peanut butter because you gotta stir it.
andrew schulz
This is why you gotta open up the comedy clubs, bro.
unidentified
Because otherwise we would talk about fucking peanut butter.
Bro, just open them up.
joe rogan
But Clinton has always been known to be a wild man.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
He fucks everything.
He tries to fuck girls and they yell and they scream and they run away.
He's got women that have said he raped them.
I mean, he's a fucking animal.
I would imagine you get that guy alone on an island.
Get a couple of drinks.
andrew schulz
It's going down.
joe rogan
And then Epstein is connected to these people who assure you, don't worry, everything's covered.
This is how we do it.
Like, look, the world's too, there's too much scrutiny out there.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
Bill, you got to be yourself, okay?
andrew schulz
So here's my question.
This wasn't always scrutinized.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
You got songs, fucking Rolling Stones.
Don't they have a song talking about banging some 15-year-old girl or something like that?
I believe there's a song, right?
Look it up, Rolling Stone.
joe rogan
You have songs about people talking about- Well, Kiss had a song called Christine 16. Dude, every movie in the 80s- She's only 17, 17!
Remember that?
andrew schulz
I'm just saying, every movie in the 80s, there were like, high school seniors, and then like, where the freshmen at?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Right?
andrew schulz
They're 14-year-olds.
Granted, you're all in high school, but you still maybe would have college kids.
Okay.
So there was a time where it was probably okay to sleep with younger women.
I'm not talking about the 11 and 12. I'm talking about teenage women.
It was probably okay.
joe rogan
Okay.
andrew schulz
At that time, how did they compromise people?
Because if we really want to know who's behind this, just figure out what they were doing before the pedophile stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they controlled the press.
Before that, no one could say anything about it.
andrew schulz
So you're saying they didn't need to compromise back in the day, and then they were like, well, fuck, we need to find a way to compromise.
Little kids.
joe rogan
Exactly.
andrew schulz
I feel like you always had to compromise.
You always had to have something on someone.
You don't think that...
joe rogan
Nah, I don't think so.
andrew schulz
No?
joe rogan
Nah.
andrew schulz
You don't think it's coincidental that maybe Clinton had some fucked up shit that happened in Arkansas and they were like, alright, we're going to get you out of that, but you're going to keep on.
You're going to have an interesting political career.
Just look out for your boys.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I mean, I don't think they had film footage of it, and I think they controlled the media.
But you know, the Clinton stuff goes way back.
andrew schulz
I don't know enough.
joe rogan
Do you know the Mena, Arkansas shit?
andrew schulz
No, no.
joe rogan
Clinton was the governor of Arkansas when Barry Seals was running cocaine through Mena, Arkansas.
He would go to South America and there's all this footage.
There's a great movie about it with Tom Cruise.
andrew schulz
That's the...
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
That's about Barry Seale.
andrew schulz
Okay.
joe rogan
And that was a real guy who was a pilot who would fly back with coke.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they would drop the coke off in Mena, Arkansas.
Okay?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
And they dropped the coke off and these two kids found it.
They found the drop.
They murdered these two kids and they said the kids committed suicide.
The kids were doing drugs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They fell asleep on the train tracks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just made this shit up, right?
So when they did the autopsy on the kids and they said, oh, the kids died of suicide, they got high and they slept on the train tracks, the parents are like, that's not our kids.
Our kids would not do that.
So they do a separate autopsy, separate independent autopsy, and they find knife wounds in these kids.
andrew schulz
Bro.
joe rogan
So the kids have been murdered.
It gets worse.
So then Barry Seals agrees to sell everybody out.
So he agrees to testify.
He is on his way to the courtroom with George Bush's phone number in his fucking pocket when he's gunned down in his car.
Yeah, he's assassinated on his way to testify.
A guy who's an absolute, and also in the movie, the Tom Cruise movie, they showed Bill Clinton pardoning him.
He got caught for something, Bill Clinton pardoned him.
unidentified
Whoa!
andrew schulz
What if?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
What if compromising people saves their life?
What if back in the day, you're like, yo, if you talk, I'm gonna kill you.
Actually, I think you're gonna talk.
You're dead.
Like, that's what the mafia does, right?
They're like, you're gonna snitch, we're killing you.
Any gangs, whatever you're gonna snitch on us, we're gonna kill you.
But what if their technique is like, dude, I'm tired of killing people.
You're gonna fuck some kids, or you're gonna do something that you do not want getting out there.
You better not tell.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, you gotta think a guy like any prominent big-time politician, they know so much shit about so many people and so many different things that are wrong.
So many different things that are illegal.
So get him to fuck your kid.
You gotta wonder about Anthony Weiner.
andrew schulz
Keep going.
joe rogan
Anthony Weiner was the guy that was...
andrew schulz
Showing that dang.
joe rogan
He was showing that dang.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he was married to Uma.
andrew schulz
Did you see it?
Not to distract.
joe rogan
No, I didn't look at his cock.
I heard it was a good-sized cock.
andrew schulz
He had a good-sized cock?
I look at a famous dick.
joe rogan
Look, he's a fucking bold man.
And he was an amazing speaker, okay?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And they were worried about him.
They were thinking, this motherfucker could be a big-time politician.
andrew schulz
So we need to compromise his ass.
joe rogan
I don't know whether he was just a freak or whether this is how he's always been and this is his kink, but he likes sexting with underage girls.
unidentified
Bad.
joe rogan
So they put him in fucking jail for it.
andrew schulz
Bad.
joe rogan
But here's what's interesting about it.
The very laptop that he was using To sex with these underage girls also has Hillary Clinton's emails on it.
That was part of the problem.
His wife was communicating with Hillary Clinton.
andrew schulz
What is this?
unidentified
I was getting to that.
jamie vernon
I just had it ready.
joe rogan
FBI communication of discovery of Hillary Clinton emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop computer.
So they found her important emails on the laptop that he's using to sex with these underage girls to have these messages.
andrew schulz
It's pretty convenient, isn't it?
joe rogan
Look, I'm not saying he didn't do it, because I think he did.
Because he sent pictures of him with his dick.
I think he's a freak.
And I think, like I said, they're ugly actors.
They're people who are ugly.
I think the guy's a comic.
That's what I think.
andrew schulz
Who, Wiener?
joe rogan
Wiener.
I mean, he's a comic.
Just nobody ever taught him how to do comedy.
So he just expressed his freakitude in terrible, awful ways.
But there's a picture of him.
He's got his phone up like this, and he's got his hog, like half-hard, in his underwear, lying there.
And I think he was lying with one of his kids.
andrew schulz
That's foul.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
andrew schulz
That's weird.
joe rogan
He's sending these to girls, just all willy-nilly.
Do you know how nuts that is?
That he just doesn't even know these gals?
So, maybe he was just a sex addict.
Maybe he was a sexting addict with underage girls.
See, there's a picture of his hog and his kid asleep.
See right there?
Right there?
andrew schulz
Question.
Mm-hmm.
And now you got me on this fucking rabbit hole, Doug.
joe rogan
Look at those selfies.
andrew schulz
No, no, I see it.
joe rogan
But go back to the upper left-hand corner.
Like, he was a freak, okay?
It's not like he's getting roped in.
He was a freak.
He was clearly a freak.
There was something about him that was a freak.
But also, I mean, he sexed him with a 15-year-old.
Did he know she was 15?
andrew schulz
That's the other question.
Did he?
Was he aware of the age?
joe rogan
Maybe they edited it.
Who knows?
andrew schulz
Or maybe that's a picture he sent to his wife.
joe rogan
They told him to kill him.
andrew schulz
Wait, what?
joe rogan
Who knows?
andrew schulz
That's what they do.
But maybe that was a picture he sent to his wife, and they're like, nah, we're going to send that to a 15-year-old because now we got your laptop, we could do whatever.
And then we got some worse shit on you, and you're going to take this little charge right here before we tell you what we're really up to.
joe rogan
He was very bombastic and very argumentative in the Senate.
And he would yell and scream, and the senator is out of order!
The senator would yield the floor!
And he had this way of talking.
Very powerful speaker.
Go ahead, Jamie.
jamie vernon
He knew.
andrew schulz
He knew.
jamie vernon
We don't need to get into this.
joe rogan
Maybe there's a culture of these creepy guys doing this shit to younger girls in politics.
Maybe there's a culture of that.
Maybe he's an example Of that culture.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's not like politics makes you do that.
It's politics has something that is enticing to those type of people, which is obviously power.
It's like the Catholic Church doesn't make you touch kids, but if you did want to touch kids and you want some smokescreen, okay, here's a perfect situation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do know what you mean.
andrew schulz
I don't think Catholicism makes you do that.
But if you did want to do it, that would be the perfect place to go.
joe rogan
I think one of the ways that Catholicism does do that is you go there when you're young and you get molested and then you think that that's normal.
andrew schulz
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
And then you start molesting other kids.
andrew schulz
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
That is one thing that does happen to people that get molested.
There's not just a high rate of them molesting, there's a high recidivism rate, but there's a very high rate of them molesting people as well.
andrew schulz
Yes.
joe rogan
That's one of the horrible...
It's almost like you're...
Vampire when you do that to some kids It's like you put it in them and then they go out and perpetrate the same evil that was done to them That's a good way of putting it It is like that in a way because you hear all these stories about guys who molest kids who were molested.
Yeah I think there's a sickness when someone wants to fuck a 15-year-old.
Even if you want to text them and pretend you want to fuck a 15-year-old.
Especially a guy with kids.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's just so fucking...
joe rogan
But how many of them were there?
I told you about that Breitbart Podesta quote.
We talked about that.
That's a crazy quote.
I don't know if it's true.
I don't know what the fuck...
andrew schulz
Do you believe it?
joe rogan
I don't know what to believe.
And this is after all of this.
Here, Jamie, I'm going to send you this.
I'm going to airdrop this to you.
I'll just text it to you.
andrew schulz
Hold on one second.
I'm peeing.
joe rogan
Go pee!
Alright, we're back.
And we're back.
andrew schulz
Less pee.
joe rogan
Feel better?
andrew schulz
Oh, dude, so much.
joe rogan
Anyway, so we're talking about creeps and people who want to fuck kids.
Yeah.
This is a thing that Andrew Breitbart tweeted in 2011 before he died.
How Prague guru John Podesta isn't household name as world-class underage sex slave op cover-upper defending unspeakable dregs escapes me.
Right.
Now what does that mean?
What does that mean?
Maybe Breitbart's crazy?
andrew schulz
Maybe he's crazy.
Why do all these crazy people die randomly?
It's kind of weird, right?
joe rogan
Right after they accuse people of shit.
andrew schulz
Isn't that crazy?
That's so crazy!
joe rogan
But you know what?
It's like Tom Hanks' wife being named Rita Wilson.
It's just a coincidence.
andrew schulz
It's just a coincidence, dude.
You know, before, I mean, you gotta do a bit about it, but you were saying how, like, there's no more crazy, right?
We're just talking about just random things, and you're like, what happened to just crazy?
And back in the day, maybe we put too many things under the umbrella of crazy.
Right?
joe rogan
Maybe.
andrew schulz
And now, maybe way back in the day when it was just anybody who was, like, you're left-handed, you're fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
And now, we don't put enough in crazy.
joe rogan
Well, there's certain things that we exempt from possibility of crazy.
andrew schulz
But this is something we always allow is crazy.
Right?
joe rogan
Oh, that's crazy.
andrew schulz
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That can't be real.
Yep.
andrew schulz
If you call out somebody and you end up getting murked and you're like, maybe there's a coincidence going on there.
What are you, crazy?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
You must be insane to think.
joe rogan
Well, there's a bunch of those, man.
That's when Seth Rich got murdered.
Everybody was worried about that.
andrew schulz
What's that?
joe rogan
Seth Rich.
He was the guy that supposedly, according to WikiLeaks, he gave them the information on the DNC being corrupt and rigging the vote with Hillary Clinton when they conspired against Bernie Sanders.
That's when Donna Brazile wrote about it in her book.
When Seth Rich was murdered, she got really scared.
She was a top operative.
andrew schulz
What do you think?
What if we sat down with the deep state, right?
Where the powers be?
Whoever doing all this kid fucking for...
joe rogan
What would it look like?
andrew schulz
What would they look like?
joe rogan
Yeah, what would the deep state look like?
andrew schulz
Oh, that's a good question.
unidentified
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
Like, who are they?
andrew schulz
Who are they, dude?
And how do you get the job?
And how do you move up in it?
unidentified
Right!
andrew schulz
Like, you've been really deep, bro.
We want to give you a raise.
Hey, dude, you've been going deep, dude!
joe rogan
How do you...
Is it bankers?
Is it all, like, no-name bankers that none of us know who they are?
andrew schulz
I went on a fucking...
It was bad.
joe rogan
Did you go on a rabbit hole?
andrew schulz
I went on...
There's this guy named Bill Still.
Please interview Bill Still.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
andrew schulz
He, back in the day, did this documentary.
I don't know if it was, like, PBS or something like that.
It was just about...
The banking institutions and how they've been controlling every policy decision back into the 1700s and then before that in Europe, and how these few banking families have all kind of worked together.
And then anybody who criticizes the banks and tries to break up the banks, they're remembered poorly in history.
unidentified
I believe that.
andrew schulz
Andrew Jackson, for example, he got rid of the Fed.
He killed the banks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And he's remembered.
He has the worst reputation of the president, right?
Oh, he's that racist president.
All the other presidents had slaves.
But Andrew Jackson!
He was really racist about it.
Dude, this guy, Bill Sill, so I get this.
I'll send you a link.
I mean, it probably only has like 40,000 views, but it was for television.
It was on like some sort of, you know, I don't know.
What is PBS? Just like a regular broadcast.
joe rogan
Channel 1?
andrew schulz
But yeah, and I just watched it, and I was like, oh, this is really fascinating.
Just learning about money.
Learning about fractional reserve lending, and just these interesting things that make the economy go, and how it works.
joe rogan
When you find out that the Bilderberg Group is real, you're like, wait, what?
andrew schulz
The Bilderberg Group is the group that...
joe rogan
They get together.
andrew schulz
Oh, the Jekyll Island thing.
joe rogan
Well, that is...
Isn't that how the IRS was formed?
Isn't that Jekyll?
Boy, we're so dumb.
No, it's how currency...
There was something about...
Yeah.
andrew schulz
He basically makes this correlation where any president who tried to create currency that wasn't dependent on the banks got murked.
And then I go, and I'm looking at this, I'm like, yeah, Lincoln, what did Lincoln do?
Lincoln do that.
And then he goes, you know why our money's green?
Because in the Civil War, he went to the banks and asked for a loan for the Civil War, and they were like, it's going to be 20-25% interest on the loan.
He was like, nah, fucking, I'm printing my own shit, greenbacks.
Really?
And then some fucking actor shoots him?
unidentified
Why would an actor care about slavery?
andrew schulz
Like, you're some theater nerd?
unidentified
You're some theater dork!
andrew schulz
Come on, dude!
Doesn't it seem weird?
I know I'm getting really conspiratorial, but like...
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're allowed to with Lincoln.
It's like it's long enough ago.
andrew schulz
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get away with that.
andrew schulz
You're telling me...
Just imagine a theater nerd.
Let's go, like, who's the biggest theater nerd right now?
Like, give me a...
joe rogan
Patton Oswalt?
jamie vernon
There's another...
unidentified
Say what?
jamie vernon
John Wilkes Booth's brother was also a famous actor in New York, and I think it was the week before Lincoln was killed, he saved his son from getting hit by a car, randomly, as though that's a random occurrence.
andrew schulz
And this is back in the day, there was barely any cars.
jamie vernon
Fun fact on the Booth family.
andrew schulz
There was no cars back in the day.
jamie vernon
Let me double check that.
andrew schulz
The car's going 20 miles per hour.
jamie vernon
There was no car.
There was no car.
A chariot.
joe rogan
I was like, a car?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1865?
andrew schulz
I'm just saying, isn't it...
It's wild, though, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
So check this guy, Bill.
I don't even know if he's still alive.
I don't think he got murked.
But he was really passionate about it, and he's really passionate about breaking the bank and not having ourselves be tied to these banking institutions that dictate monetary policy.
joe rogan
Well, wasn't that a part of Kennedy as well?
andrew schulz
Of course, Kennedy.
I got that, bro.
joe rogan
He wanted to get rid of the Federal Reserve.
unidentified
Everyone that wants to get rid of it, and if they get close, adios.
andrew schulz
Bro, the way he puts it, who else got shot?
Oh, he got shot, Jackson.
He got shot, but he lived.
joe rogan
Reagan.
He got shot by a psycho.
andrew schulz
But they're all psychos.
They're all crazy.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
They're all crazy when they need to be crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, well, you gotta read this book called Chaos.
andrew schulz
Go.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
It's about Charles Manson, right?
It starts out about Charles Manson.
andrew schulz
Wasn't he involved?
joe rogan
Tom O'Neill.
andrew schulz
Wasn't he like a...
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
CIA. Yeah.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen, he was a prisoner who they gave acid to, and they trained him how to do that to other people.
So he took these impressionable youths and dosed them up with acid, and then he would pretend he was taking it, and he would guide them and tell them what to do, and then he had them go out and murder people.
And every time he got arrested, they let him out of jail.
There's a guy named Tom O'Neill who started his book.
He started his book as a story that he was writing for Premier Magazine, but as he dug deeper and deeper into the case, he was like, what the fuck?
What the fuck is going on?
Well, how about this?
There's a free clinic in Haight-Ashbury that the CIA operated under with this program where they were doing tests on people.
Doing tests on hippies and giving them acid.
Until his book comes out.
His book comes out.
Three months after his book comes out, the clinic goes out of business.
This is a clinic that had been in operation for 50 fucking years.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it's a tricky...
Dude, it's a tricky thing, right?
It's like, my girl said something interesting to me, you know, because there's all these serial killer documentaries on Netflix and that kind of stuff, right?
And I'm like, are there serial killers in other places?
Why do we just have it here?
Or do they have it in London?
Do they have it in Paris?
joe rogan
Jack the Ripper.
andrew schulz
Well, Jack the Ripper, right?
And then, like, after that, I don't think there was a lot of ripping.
Right?
Like, I think, like, he did it, and then there's no more ripping.
joe rogan
I don't know.
andrew schulz
And then, I'm like, and then she goes this, and she just goes, honestly, I think it was all the acid.
And I go, what do you mean?
She goes, well, they're doing all these drugs in the 60s and 70s, and all of a sudden, in the 80s, they just start, like, tearing through women, and they're just, all these serial killers pop up out of nowhere.
And I'm like, holy shit!
With the people they experimented on?
joe rogan
Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber.
And they didn't talk about this in the Netflix documentary.
Of course not.
The Netflix documentary, they kind of briefly touched upon that, about drugs.
They used just the random word, drugs.
Or the blanket word drugs.
But he was a part of the Harvard LSD experiments.
He was a part of these...
They talked about the psychological experiments they did where they were breaking him down for three years.
But he was already a little loony to begin with.
And then they fucked with him for three years and probably force-fed him acid.
They did it to a lot of people.
There was a thing called Operation Midnight Climax they did back then where they would run whorehouses.
They would run whorehouses.
andrew schulz
But they're not even hiding it.
unidentified
It's the most obvious name for the bucket.
joe rogan
Well, the other one was MKUltro.
MKUltro was the mind control experiment.
But a part of MKUltro was Operation Midnight Climax.
And they did this in San Francisco as well.
The same people that were involved in that clinic were also involved and they would make these brothels and then they would hire these ladies to come in and have sex with these guys and they would dose the guys up with acid.
So these guys would go in thinking they're gonna just get some sex.
andrew schulz
Then they got the greatest sex ever.
joe rogan
Have a drink and they'd be on acid just tripping their balls off and then they would just run experiments on these fucking guys.
What are you gonna do?
Tell people?
You gonna tell people you went to a whorehouse, you got drugged?
Really?
Is that what happened?
Is that what happened really?
andrew schulz
So here's my question to you.
Let's say that we're in charge of like a nation building or whatever it is.
Like let's say we're deep state, right?
joe rogan
Deep state.
andrew schulz
And we are tasked with keeping America on top by any means necessary.
joe rogan
This is a good argument.
andrew schulz
Okay?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
You and I. Right.
Our families, our kids, everything is dependent on us developing the coolest, well I don't want to use the term cool, but most effective weapons of manipulation to maintain our status in the world.
And because of that we get to live the lives that we get to live.
And if we don't do it, there are other countries that are doing the exact same thing, and the second we slip, they're gonna body us, right?
Would you go so far?
Would you go so far as to do these types of things?
The right answer is obviously no, but if you knew the exact same experiment was happening in China right now, and the second they figured it out, they were gonna find ways to manipulate the powers that be, and then the next trip a politician ends up in China, all of a sudden, they get doused with some shit, now they're controlled, I don't know exactly how it works.
joe rogan
You know, this is the argument to accept some sort of a new world order.
Or accept some sort of a totalitarian regime that controls the people the same way China controls the people because otherwise we can't compete with them.
andrew schulz
Keep going.
joe rogan
China has this connection between the big businesses and corporations in China and the military and the government.
They're all connected.
It's one thing.
There's not two things.
It's not like you have a business and then there's the government.
No, your business is a part of the government.
If you're running Huawei, you're hand in hand with the Chinese government.
The only way the United States is going to compete is if we run things over here the way they run things over there because They can cut corners, take chances.
They have mass surveillance on their people.
That way it keeps things running smoother.
Well, they also have COVID tracking.
We need to track you.
We need to track you.
andrew schulz
Put a chip!
Put a chip in your hand!
joe rogan
It's not a chip.
We don't need a chip.
You got your phone.
You ain't leaving that alone.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's right.
You never needed a chip.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You don't need a chip.
Just get them addicted to a game.
andrew schulz
Question.
Don't you think we...
That's right.
joe rogan
Chinese government.
andrew schulz
Chinese government.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
I've been killing it with TikTok.
I'm not gonna lie.
I gotta show you.
I got some good ones.
But, uh...
Okay, here's the thing.
Don't you think we're already there?
And let me clarify.
Do you really think Google isn't sitting down with the U.S. government and the U.S. government isn't going, we're going to need access to all that?
I mean, we'll pretend like you guys are operating by yourself, but y'all know what time it is.
joe rogan
Well, for sure they do.
And Google's actually sat down with the Chinese government.
And the argument of censoring over there was that if we don't, they're just going to steal our intellectual property and just remake Google in a Chinese form.
We need to work with them.
andrew schulz
Well, you don't need to do anything, Google.
You want to work with them.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
We need to.
We need to.
We don't have enough money.
andrew schulz
We need more.
I just think...
I wonder that even like...
joe rogan
A jillion dollars.
andrew schulz
Like with Elon.
Even with Elon, it's like you reach a certain level.
You must have...
Look, if I'm the guy, if I'm Deep State, right?
And I would know we got this smart South African dude, right?
And he can invent anything.
He can do all this cool shit.
And I'm going to be like, all right, yeah, bring him over here.
And he's like, well, maybe I want to go, you know, sell some shit to Saudi Arabia.
And I'll be like, maybe you don't.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
andrew schulz
Just as simple as that.
He's like, I'm gonna go on Joe Rogan's podcast and smoke weed.
You're like, do whatever the fuck you want.
We don't care about the stock prices.
I just wonder if the exchange is, hey, we need some cool rockets, we need some great shit, and if you have any ideas...
Throw them our way first.
What are those network deals?
First right of refusal?
No, not development.
joe rogan
First right of refusal.
andrew schulz
If you build some shit that's fire, we look at it first.
If we don't like it, sell it to Saudi Arabia.
But we got it first.
And if we ever need some real dope shit, you make it.
Now, what is the exchange?
If you want to keep your factory open during COVID, you get to do that.
joe rogan
I think he's got so much influence and they realize that their law was stupid.
andrew schulz
It was stupid, but most places are still closed.
And he was like, yo, I'm staying open.
And then the government was like, alright, you're staying open.
Why are you standing up?
Because I need to make cars.
joe rogan
Well, the California state government, because other governments were allowing him to open.
So this is not deep state shit.
This is like a state-to-state thing.
andrew schulz
He could have that much influence.
joe rogan
Texas is saying, hey, y'all, come on over here.
andrew schulz
By all means.
unidentified
Woo!
Let's do it.
andrew schulz
And we have oil.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And we'll still let you do it with electric cars.
joe rogan
So there are states that were willing to let him rock and roll.
andrew schulz
But wouldn't you do that with a Bezos?
Wouldn't you go, hey, guys, operate...
I guess what I'm trying to say is there's this structure in America, right?
Where at the bottom, you have no power, and it fucking sucks, and you're just barely surviving.
You make some money, you're good, your life is good, but you're still attached to your job.
You need to do that in order to survive.
You get into the millions, 10 millions, 100 millions, right?
And you actually have freedom.
And the second you get into the billions, you get a knock on the door where it's like, you got a lot.
You got a lot of stuff and we're gonna need to have some conversations about how you use that stuff and the people you talk to and the deals that you do because you got too much power.
Like, I'm shocked.
Like, for years I've been shocked even with this platform.
I'm like, how is there one guy?
They can speak to the whole world.
And the US government isn't fucking surveilling you and having drones everywhere.
joe rogan
Watch the show.
Anyone can get it.
andrew schulz
That's a good point.
You're not hiding.
joe rogan
No.
andrew schulz
It's like there's freedom in exposing.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew schulz
You can really be free if you just give.
joe rogan
Also, I'm a fucking cage fighting commentator.
Who's gonna listen to me?
andrew schulz
Dude, what if your deep state, that was really your smokescreen?
joe rogan
Imagine if you just got really good at these things just so you could be deep state.
The problem is that's not how people get good at things.
They don't get good at things from no motivation.
You'd never be able to compete with guys who are really hustling.
You have to be really hustling.
And then they bring you to fuck island.
They give videos.
andrew schulz
I have a question about MMA for you.
joe rogan
Okay.
andrew schulz
Why do we keep hearing about the underpaying stuff?
joe rogan
Well, right now in particular, there's probably less money because the fighters have to...
There's no gate.
andrew schulz
There's no live gate.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no live gate.
And that's an extreme amount of money.
But there's also fighters that agree to certain deals.
They agree to like an eight-fight deal at X amount per fight.
And then they become more popular and then they want to renegotiate their deal.
And the UFC is like, look, we're just trying to stay open.
We're not going to renegotiate anything.
You can take it or you can leave it, but this is what it is.
I think it's a matter of that.
But...
Looking at it from the fighters' perspective, fighters would be certainly better off if there was more competition.
That's always how it works.
andrew schulz
Yep.
joe rogan
So whether it's Bellator or 1FC or all these different companies, the more of those there are, the more World Series of Fighting, the more Professional Fighting League, whatever the fuck it's called now, the more those rise, the better it is for everyone.
It's just how it is.
It's like if there's only improvs and then you get banned from the improvs, you're fucked.
andrew schulz
But if you've got funny bones, if you've got some theaters, if you've got...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's exactly like that.
You know, I've seen that happen before with people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've seen that happen with comedy clubs, and I've seen that happen with fighting, too.
You get banned from a big organization, and then you're fucked, man.
Nobody's...
It's not a monopoly in that you do have choices, but there's one clear top of the food chain choice.
But it's because they do it the best.
They're also the only ones that are having fights during this quarantine.
The only people that are putting on any live sporting events.
andrew schulz
It's amazing.
joe rogan
But they're also a part of a company in WME that's hurting really, really bad.
So there's not a lot of money to throw around.
To keep the doors open, to keep people employed, a lot of money...
Is missing, right?
All these shows got canceled.
There's all these audience members that aren't going to be there buying tickets.
So it's tricky, man.
So this is why I think they're complaining about fight or pay.
I think they should get paid more.
I think everybody should get paid more.
I think it's a crazy way to make a living.
I think you should get the most amount of money you can possibly get.
But it's also a business.
I think that if they are struggling as much as I think they are, I don't talk finances with them, but I know that WME people own it.
They're hurting.
Bad.
They're laying people off.
Most businesses are hurting.
All the entertainment business is fucked.
Live Nation's fucked.
andrew schulz
All these people are fucked.
joe rogan
So what do they do?
That's what I think.
But, you know, when it comes to me as a human that likes fighting, I know how fucking dangerous that shit is.
You should get paid an incredibly generous amount of money to step into a cage fight for millions of people to see.
andrew schulz
Yeah, it is interesting because you have this situation where the quality of the fights is undeniably better because it's not in the free market.
You have people that are really good at picking out fights.
And for the most part, I say this as a boxing fan, right?
So I grew up in boxing where there are tons of different divisions, or tons of different companies, if you will.
WBC, WBO, all these different things.
unidentified
Different promoters.
andrew schulz
Different promoters.
And sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, right?
But like, it's a mess.
And then sometimes what happens is you have guys who are like really boring fighters, but they get a position where they have the belt and then it actually hurts the sport in a way.
But they earned it and they deserve it.
So as like a sportsman, I'm like, they deserve to have it.
Like a lot of people, I love Floyd Mayweather.
I think he's the best fighter in the history of fighting, right?
I think he's actually one of the greatest people at their job ever.
Like I think he's Michael Jordan of boxing.
joe rogan
He's one of the, without a doubt, one of the greatest boxers, if not the greatest boxer that has ever lived.
andrew schulz
He's unbelievable.
joe rogan
50-0.
andrew schulz
But he, for average people, fought, for me, I loved it, but for average people thought it was boring, so he needed the antics.
joe rogan
Yeah, he needed to get people angry at him.
andrew schulz
Yeah, the gimmick, right?
And it worked, but the thing is with the UFC is, I'll watch guys I don't fucking know, and I'll enjoy it.
And I feel like I don't know if that's just because of the sport, but also because of the way that they're matching the fighters.
And it's not specifically, hey, you're ranked here, you're ranked here, we have to match you.
Part of it is, you're ranked here, you're ranked here, but also your styles would make something interesting.
You're correct.
Do you think it's better to not be completely free market?
Do you think it's better to have the fights for the quality of the sport?
joe rogan
If you're a fan, it's certainly better for you if the fighters get...
If they all get together in one organization, and then that organization makes them fight each other.
That way there's not as many dream matchups you never get to see.
Like one of the things that everybody got upset was by the time Floyd fought Manny Pacquiao, it was like past Manny's prime, and Manny had a bum shoulder, and all these different things.
We would have liked to see that fight five years earlier.
And in the UFC... That fight gets made.
andrew schulz
Easily.
joe rogan
Yeah, it gets made.
But it gets to a situation where a guy like Jon Jones says, hey, I've got a contract for light heavyweight fights, but...
You know, what do you want to give me to fight Francis Ngannou because I want a lot of fucking money because that guy's terrifying.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they say, well, you get what you're paid in your contract.
That's what you get.
And he's like, well, I'm not fighting then.
And they go, okay.
andrew schulz
It is interesting.
joe rogan
See, that's one of those situations where I don't know who's right or who's wrong because I don't know how much money they would make for that if there's no audience.
Let's say that Francis Ngannou fights a big fight and it gets like 500,000 pay-per-views, 600,000, 700,000 pay-per-views.
That's a lot of pay-per-views.
Yep.
How much in the hole are they?
How much money in the hole are they?
How hard is it to make money right now?
How much can you afford?
How much do they make?
I don't know these answers.
How much do they make for a pay-per-view where 700,000 buys, a million buys?
How much do they make?
What's the overhead?
I don't know.
andrew schulz
It's less, but it's not...
I mean, it has to be less because you're not maintaining these venues.
The venues are much smaller.
You have to pay way less people.
That being said, the ticket prices, like the live gate...
joe rogan
Live gate's big.
andrew schulz
Millions.
20,000 people, 18,000 people all spending on average $150 a ticket.
joe rogan
And on top of that, there's merch, there's all sorts of shit.
I'm sure they probably get some sort of a piece of all that stuff.
And then there's also, they had to operate, they didn't fire anybody.
It's one thing about the UFC. They would not fire people.
So they stayed open, wouldn't fire anybody while they were going on for months, just paying people.
Trying to figure out how to put this together and make fights happen.
They tried to do that one at the Indian place, Tai Chi Palace in Lemoore, California.
They got real close to doing that.
But then the fucking governor got a hold of the head of Disney and Eisner and they called Dana White and they told him to pull out.
Pull out!
Okay, so they back out of that, and then two weeks later, Florida's like, come on in!
So then we do one in Florida with no audience, and then finally they're allowing us to duel them at the Apex Center in Vegas.
I think right now it's a triage.
They're trying to stop the bleeding, and they're trying to patch back up the sport.
WME and the UFC. The UFC's operating with full costs for months without any money coming in at all.
So you have to think that.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's right.
WME, I think, paid $4 billion or something for them.
joe rogan
A little more than that.
So they have this giant monthly nut they have to cover every month.
andrew schulz
And people, I guess, don't realize is an agency makes money off of the commission of their clients, and if their clients can't work because of corona, the agency has no revenue coming in.
joe rogan
None.
andrew schulz
Zero.
I guess there's some TV shows getting made, but still, they're not doing production on films or anything like that.
unidentified
No.
andrew schulz
It is interesting.
joe rogan
They're starting to do films next week.
andrew schulz
They are.
It's coming back.
What was your thoughts on...
joe rogan
Until somebody gets sick.
andrew schulz
And then you're liable.
That's the tricky thing.
It's like, they don't want...
God forbid somebody ends up one of these NBA coaches who's old.
God forbid Greg Popovich, who's fucking 70...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew schulz
...gets corona.
joe rogan
Death.
andrew schulz
It is.
And now you want to be the NBA commissioner that killed Greg Popovich?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Or be a UFC promoter that a fighter gets sick, goes home and kills his mom who works with him.
Maybe your mom helps cook for you.
Your mom gets sick.
Maybe your mom's helping you in camp.
Your mom gets sick and dies from corona because they had the fights.
I don't think that's going to happen.
I think particularly now when you're hearing these reports of the cases diminishing, the viral load that they're finding in Italy is so small that it's barely detectable.
The hope is that same shit happens here as it gets hot out.
andrew schulz
That Italy thing was so funny.
joe rogan
Why is it funny?
andrew schulz
It's because they said that the symptoms of Corona were like you couldn't taste and smell.
And Italy was like the first country that was like, it's a pandemic!
Everybody inside!
unidentified
We can't eat!
andrew schulz
We can't taste pasta!
unidentified
We gotta get in the pot of this!
joe rogan
We can't smell great food!
Exactly!
unidentified
And then people in Sweden, which has like trash cuisine anyway, they're just like, yeah, let it rip!
It gives a fuck!
What do the English say?
andrew schulz
We're gonna take it on the chin!
joe rogan
Right, what are we living for anyway?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Our food tastes like shit.
Swedish meatballs.
They got good meatballs.
They do.
And then there's all this concern that they're doing it wrong or they're doing it right.
We need to watch Sweden.
Look, Sweden's fine.
Why can't we do it like Sweden?
No, the death rate is very high.
The death toll.
All of it.
Was it high?
Comparatively, I think it's higher.
I think letting it burn through the city is comparatively higher.
I think the question is, what would you rather have?
Would you rather have the freedom to decide for yourself and know that there's some risks involved, or would you rather have the government lock everything down, save people's lives from now, but then the economy crashes?
For every unemployment rate, There's some sort of a graph that they use or some sort of an equation, but for every percentage, the unemployment rate goes up.
More people are unemployed, X amount of people die.
X amount of people die.
That's a fact.
They know that roughly.
And this is not taken into account at all.
The deaths that we're looking at are only the deaths due to disease.
andrew schulz
Yeah, that's why you know it's been politicized because the politicians aren't going to be accountable for the deaths because of unemployment because they could blame it on the pandemic.
But they will be responsible for the deaths from corona if they're opening up too early.
joe rogan
Dude, they should have quarantined sick people and high-risk people.
People that have illnesses, pre-existing conditions, old people, people that are vulnerable.
We could have done that.
That could have been done.
andrew schulz
If all these people, right, that have gone out and marched, right?
I mean, like, just yesterday we were at a march in Santa Barbara, right?
We're in the crowd, right?
We're talking to folks, like...
Do you think if nobody ends up getting corona or the numbers don't spike that high will forever lose or at least for our lives lose faith in what our public health sector tells us we need to be concerned about?
joe rogan
I think already people are losing faith.
andrew schulz
But especially after this right now, like this is...
unidentified
Especially.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially.
But I think people have already...
When they find out how many people actually got it versus how many people died versus what they thought, how many people were going to get it versus how many people...
I mean, it's a tiny fraction.
They keep trying to scare us.
Have you seen the image of downtown LA yesterday?
andrew schulz
It was wild.
joe rogan
There's an overhead view where you can see 50,000 people filling the street.
It's crazy.
If they don't get it, nobody has it.
It's not real.
andrew schulz
It's not real.
You're going to get a call, bro.
joe rogan
I wonder what the numbers are going to be, man, in two weeks.
I mean, are we going to have a sharp increase in deaths in two weeks because of these protests?
andrew schulz
Dude, you know how I knew that I wasn't taking it seriously?
Because for the first maybe two weeks, I washed my hands after I peed.
joe rogan
And then after a while you're like, I'm done.
andrew schulz
I'm like, man, I'm good, bro.
unidentified
Just right now when we peed.
andrew schulz
I only washed my hands.
I actually walked out and I realized you were still in there.
joe rogan
So you washed your hands?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a classic guy move.
andrew schulz
But that's how I knew it wasn't.
I was like, whatever, dude.
joe rogan
But that doesn't make any sense.
What if it was the plague?
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
What if it was real?
What if it really was something that takes like 17, 18 days and it's super contagious and everybody gets it?
17, 18 days and you're just deathly ill.
Everybody, no matter who you are.
It has nothing to do with your immune system.
Stop it with your health privilege.
It has to do only with this horrible...
That's what I just said.
I just made it up.
andrew schulz
Health privilege.
Health privilege.
joe rogan
Well, that's what it is.
They're shaming you for health privilege.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
Stay home.
Save lives.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's downtown LA. Oh, yeah.
Imagine if this really was just a political ploy to crush the economy and that they knew it wasn't going to be that bad.
They knew it was going to be bad, but it didn't require shutting everything down for months and months at a time.
But it's a good thing to do if you want to kill the economy, start civil unrest.
andrew schulz
Let's go deep state theory, right?
joe rogan
Deep state!
andrew schulz
Deep state theory.
joe rogan
Pull the strings!
andrew schulz
You know you can't let Biden debate.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew schulz
Because it's going to be a massacre.
Not good.
joe rogan
I got hairy legs!
unidentified
Did you see the clip?
It was great.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying?
andrew schulz
Just a wild dude.
So you don't want him to debate, right?
And whose power is actually public appearance?
Whose rallies?
joe rogan
Trump.
andrew schulz
So now you take away...
joe rogan
The ability.
andrew schulz
The ability to go out.
joe rogan
To have those big rallies.
andrew schulz
And do those rallies, which are incredibly persuasive if you're someone who's on the fence.
And you limit the liability that is Biden in a potential debate where he could have these gaffes, etc.
joe rogan
Then on top of it, you have civil unrest and you blame it all on him.
But here's the thing.
You could see how it all played out.
That guy is just a piece of shit in Minneapolis.
He's not some deep state player.
unidentified
Who?
andrew schulz
Chauvin?
Derek Chauvin, yeah.
A piece of shit.
joe rogan
Just a piece of shit.
And he killed that guy.
We all saw it.
And he's got a long history.
It's not like he started out as a corrupt cop.
Really, he's just a deep state, long player.
So, 2006, they brought him in as a Manchurian candidate.
andrew schulz
We're going to let you marry a hot Asian.
We're going to let you marry Miss Minnesota.
You know his wife was Miss Minnesota.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She's hot as fuck.
andrew schulz
That's the payment.
joe rogan
She dropped him, though.
andrew schulz
Immediately.
That's how you know it's set up deep state.
So set up Deep State, dude!
It's set up Deep State!
unidentified
And then they're going to say, you can't say he's a white supremacist, he had an Asian wife!
joe rogan
That's true.
Good call.
What is that thing that they do?
What is it called when someone's a sleeper, when they wait for a long time before they act?
andrew schulz
Cosby victim?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
No, when someone is like, they're undercover for a long time, and then...
andrew schulz
Manchurian Candidate, wasn't that the movie?
joe rogan
No, but that's, the Manchurian Candidate is someone who's been hypnotized.
Oh.
The thing is like a sleeper cell.
Like someone who doesn't, they don't do anything for a long time.
andrew schulz
You're acting as a normal citizen in 10 years.
joe rogan
And they just wait, and then like, alright, we're getting close to the election.
Get in there.
Go kill a guy, and as a young girl's gonna film you, you're gonna kill her anyway.
Kill him anyway.
The girl was filming him.
A 17-year-old girl filming him with her camera.
A 17-year-old girl got the George Floyd video.
andrew schulz
Yeah, there was a lot of people out there, wasn't there?
joe rogan
Well, there was a 17-year-old girl's video that we all saw.
andrew schulz
Interesting, yeah.
joe rogan
17-year-old girl.
And a lot of people were giving her a hard time.
unidentified
Because she didn't.
joe rogan
Why didn't you do something?
A fucking cop.
A 17-year-old girl.
A grown man is killing another grown man.
andrew schulz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You want her to step in, really?
andrew schulz
Yeah, it is...
joe rogan
Deep state.
It's all a long game.
It's 4-D chess.
andrew schulz
What are your thoughts on what has transpired since?
joe rogan
Look, that gives me hope.
When I see 50,000 people walking through downtown LA, all peacefully protesting, that gives me hope.
There's a real chance for a real shift.
A real shift.
Here's the thing that bugs me.
All that money they came with to bail out all these corporations from the coronavirus, the pandemic, why couldn't they have used that money already to bail out these inner cities?
Why couldn't they have find the money to...
They have all these cities that have this systemic crime and violence and racism that's been going on forever, forever, places like Baltimore.
That are directly fucked up as a result of racist practices and selling houses.
And they don't do anything to fix that.
They never try to stop where the crime is coming from.
They never try to make those cities better.
They never try to add community centers and figure out a way to do something.
There's nothing on the table.
It's just crime-ridden neighborhoods, just how they are, like forever.
andrew schulz
Yeah, crime doesn't matter until it affects the pockets.
Like if the crime is happening in a poor neighborhood and it's not affecting somebody's money, then nobody cares.
The second they started breaking windows on Fifth Avenue, now all of a sudden it's more.
Now all of a sudden it's really fucked up.
joe rogan
That was wild about de Blasio just says, stand down, let them do it.
Let them burn themselves out.
andrew schulz
We did this in the video, but it was really interesting because we had to like, I had to like really process how I felt about it because the looting obviously was wrong and we did that clip on it, but like The writing I understood, and I think I can justify—I was talking to this—I don't want to say his name because he's a college professor.
I don't want to get him in trouble for talking to us and helping us out, you know, the distinguished gentlemen.
We're these ruffians.
But he was like— He's really savvy with constitutional law and stuff, and he said this argument that I thought was really interesting.
When it comes to riots, not looting, destruction of property is wrong, and you're doing it to benefit yourself when you loot, right?
You're taking advantage of the tragedy, right?
The tragedy is a smokescreen, so that you can benefit, right?
And we made an interesting distinction, like any Instagram model that's also taking a picture at the thing, but not really actually doing anything, it was like, you're looting too.
You're enriching yourself.
joe rogan
Did you see that one chick that borrowed the guy's drink?
andrew schulz
That's the one that we did and it was like...
joe rogan
That is crazy.
andrew schulz
That's looting though.
You're enriching yourself off of tragedy.
That's fucking looting, right?
joe rogan
So...
andrew schulz
Peaceful protest, obviously great, looting wrong, rioting in the middle, which is destruction of property, right?
Just like send this message.
And as Mark and I were putting together the piece, we're talking to this dude and he made this interesting point.
He goes, as a citizen, you have the right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, but also property, right?
And if the state...
Is destroying the most valuable piece of property that you have, which is your body, right?
You have to take some sort of recourse in order to protect that, right?
They broke the social contract.
They broke it, right?
When they maybe are shooting you or shooting your neighbors, etc., You peacefully protest.
If that goes on deaf ears for decades, what the fuck else are you supposed to do?
You can keep saying peacefully protest, but if it keeps on happening, there really isn't anything else available to you.
So the next thing is destruction of property.
I think the best way to do it would probably be to destroy public property, not private property.
But if you destroy public property, You'd actually be taking the high road because that's a response to having life destroyed.
You destroy my life.
I just fuck up your park.
Who's reasonable here?
joe rogan
Well, if it was all coordinated and thought that way, yes.
And I think what happened in Minnesota, in particular what happened with the police precinct, where they burnt that fucking thing down the ground.
That was fascinating to me.
It's when it spreads across the country and then it just becomes two things.
It becomes peaceful protest, people mad at the cops, and then looting.
And the looting is different.
andrew schulz
Unacceptable.
Looting unacceptable.
joe rogan
But what's crazy is, along the way, we get...
More evidence of police brutality.
Instead of the cops saying, hey, this guy killed this guy.
It makes us all look terrible.
We are not like that.
We're better than that.
Most of them probably did do that, but a lot of them, they fell back to their cop ways.
They fell back to their ways of smashing fucking shields into people, running over pedestrians, all the crazy shit that we saw.
Shooting a guy in the fucking face with a tear gas canister.
See that?
They pepper sprayed him and then they shot him with a flashbang right in the fucking face.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
He ate that.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
andrew schulz
He stayed alive?
joe rogan
I think Joe Schilling has that on his Instagram page.
My friend Joe Schilling, who's a kickboxer, he's been saying for the last six, seven days, it's not one bad apple.
He goes, look at all these fucking asshole cops that are doing shit.
So he's putting video after video after video after video after video after video of cops grabbing a woman by the neck and throwing her to the ground, slamming her.
What are you saying to me?
Why do I have to listen to you?
He's like, fucking get on the ground!
Just grab her, macing people, macing young girls, macing people for no fucking reason.
This one guy was talking shit to the cops, so the cops just walk right up to him, pepper spray him, drag him, throw him to the ground.
You're taking away his freedom of speech.
The guy's not committing a crime.
You're violating the First Amendment.
You're violating his constitutional rights.
andrew schulz
You're breaking the social construct.
joe rogan
So my friend Joe has video after video after video of this, and I think one of them, I don't know if he has that in there, but one of them is this dude gets pepper sprayed in the face, and then they fucking flashbang him.
Bang!
I mean, it hits him right off the dome.
It's crazy.
So many people got fucked up.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
My buddy is a captain in the Marines, right?
Or he was.
And he was in Iraq.
And he goes, here's why I have no tolerance whatsoever for police brutality.
When we were in Iraq...
The mission changed.
And it went from go in there and fuck shit up, that's how it is when you're trying to win a war, to win minds and hearts.
And they explained to us while we were there, we're winning minds and hearts, and that means you guys are going to have to take on more risk.
That means you don't just kick in the door and then light it up.
You have to make sure that you're not taking out innocents.
At least try.
You are taking on more risk.
You are risking your life.
So he goes, when I see police brutality, I'm like, if we can afford that luxury to a country that we're at war with, how the fuck can we not afford that luxury to our own citizens?
He goes, if I'm told to take on more risk, then maybe these cops have to take on more risk and pay them for it.
Increase payment, increase training.
Don't defund, but increase the requirements and really make them heroes.
But he said this, he was like, it seemed to me that the culture...
Of policing in America, and I could be wrong, we gotta talk to cops about it, but what he said, it seems to me, is that the idea is no cop ever gets left behind, no cop ever goes down, instead of protecting people at all costs.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
I mean, poke holes if you can.
joe rogan
No, it makes sense.
Well, I'm fully in agreement that they need better funding.
It needs to be a higher paying job that's much more difficult to get.
But when you see cops throw that old man to the ground, he bounces his fucking head off the ground, you see the blood come out of his head and no one does anything?
No one stops him?
No one picks the guy up?
No one calls an ambulance?
No one checks on him?
You can't do that.
That's not serving.
That's not protecting.
A guy said something you didn't like, so you threw him to the ground.
You knew he was old and feeble.
You knew he was.
andrew schulz
And you did it with, potentially, a confidence of knowing that nothing would happen to you.
There wouldn't be any recourse.
And that's when people go like, a bad apple ruins a bunch.
And it's like, no it doesn't.
You just remove the bad apple.
But if you can't remove the bad apple, if there's systems in play that don't allow it...
Then it ruins the bunch.
So if there's one systemic change we make, maybe it's people get prosecuted or cops will get prosecuted for violating the law.
Because I really would allow...
Not allow, I'd really love if we...
Had this relationship with the cops.
We're like, fuck, you guys are brave, man.
Thank you.
Like, fuck.
Because it is a fucking dangerous job.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew schulz
And thankless in a lot of ways.
joe rogan
A lot of ways.
andrew schulz
So it's like, how do we shift this and how much risk do they have to take or what change do we make so that we can look at them and go, fuck.
Thank God we got these guys around, because fuck it's scary sometimes.
joe rogan
Listen to what you said about your friend being the Marines.
It's fucking hard to get through boot camp, man.
It's hard.
unidentified
It's hard.
andrew schulz
You're right.
There's a fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a long road that you have to travel to be a Navy SEAL, right?
That's how it should be to be a cop, man.
It should be fucking hard to make it.
And they should weed out the people that are assholes, the people that are sociopaths, the people that would be willing to lean their shin on a man's neck for eight and a half minutes.
andrew schulz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those people are sick.
You've got to find those people before they get to the position where they could do that to a person.
andrew schulz
And how do you do that?
Do you do psych evals?
joe rogan
Yes, you've got to train them.
You've got to train them like they are the type of people that potentially could fucking kill somebody for the wrong reason.
You've got to train them like you're weeding them out.
Like, this is a great honor.
And we can ship that, but we have to think about it in terms of allocation of resources.
Cops don't get paid enough.
Teachers don't get paid enough either, though, and they're not killing their kids.
So I don't know what to say about that.
unidentified
But they fuck them.
joe rogan
They fuck them sometimes.
andrew schulz
And nobody goes, we should just stop school.
Hey, these teachers are fucking the kids!
joe rogan
Defund the teachers!
unidentified
We defund school!
Get rid of school!
joe rogan
Yeah, these teachers are blowing these kids.
This is fucking crazy.
Yo, dude, I gotta end this, man.
We've been doing it three and a half hours already.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
Three hours.
Three hours.
We started a little later.
andrew schulz
Alright, well.
joe rogan
Bro, love you, man.
andrew schulz
The Deep State will cut about half this.
joe rogan
Always great to see you.
andrew schulz
I love you.
joe rogan
We don't see each other enough.
andrew schulz
I know, man.
joe rogan
But it's always a good time.
Hopefully next time we'll be doing comedy.
I think it's gonna be soon.
andrew schulz
I can't wait.
joe rogan
When are you gonna be back here again?
andrew schulz
I don't know.
I'm going to do some shows, though.
I heard you're doing...
I don't want to mention, but like...
joe rogan
Yeah, I got some shows.
andrew schulz
The Grapevine.
joe rogan
I'm about to pop off.
andrew schulz
All right, good.
joe rogan
Some shit might be going down in Ohio, too.
Chappelle's got some shit he's planning.
andrew schulz
Ooh, okay.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
Lots of things are happening.
Lots of things are happening.
andrew schulz
Yeah, so my agent said that.
That you were going around.
And I was like, you know what?
Maybe I'll do something around your date.
joe rogan
I'll help it, man.
I'll promote it.
andrew schulz
No, you don't have to.
What I'm saying is like...
joe rogan
But I'd be happy to.
unidentified
We'll do it together.
andrew schulz
We'll just hang.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
andrew schulz
Everybody could just do each other's stuff and it would just be like a fun...
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
andrew schulz
Like we could reward the clubs that are going, let's open up.
unidentified
I don't know.
andrew schulz
We'll talk about it off air.
joe rogan
Well, Texas.
Texas is going guns blazing.
Arizona.
unidentified
They would.
joe rogan
So it's Wild West Dates.
That's right.
The ones that survived the fucking wars with the Indians.
They're opening up.
andrew schulz
They don't...
joe rogan
Right away.
unidentified
They understand.
andrew schulz
Disease don't kill us.
joe rogan
Yes.
Andrew Schultz, ladies and gentlemen.
andrew schulz
Love you, brother.
joe rogan
I love you too, man.
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