June 5, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
04:44:30
Participants
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| What if we, like, wrote you a new theme song? | ||
| What if we just, like, start pitching theme songs? | ||
| You can do that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I might use it. | ||
|
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Cool. | |
| Yeah, Ben. | ||
| We're rolling. | ||
| We're rolling right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Honey, honey. | ||
| How did the band get back together? | ||
| Because literally, the band is back together. | ||
| Like, you know that expression you say with your friends? | ||
| Bro, the band's back together! | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| We haven't even said that shit yet. | ||
| The band's back together. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| The band's back together. | ||
| I said bam? | ||
| The band's back together. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'd rather say, like, titties! | ||
| I'm a bam guy. | ||
| I say bam. | ||
|
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Bam's good. | |
| Yeah, so Bands Back Together started via COVID. We were kind of mad at each other. | ||
| That's what binds us. | ||
| Yeah, we were a little mad at each other. | ||
| Viruses keep you together. | ||
| And then I got really worried about Ben. | ||
| The person I live with... | ||
| We maybe did have COVID at a time. | ||
| It turns out he tested negative, but he had acute laryngitis at the same time. | ||
| So we're just like, oh shit. | ||
| See, all those other diseases don't take a break. | ||
| Like, oh, COVID's got this. | ||
| No, didn't he have bronchitis? | ||
| No, he had acute laryngitis. | ||
| Well, either way, I was like real mad at you at the time. | ||
| And I was like, I really love Ben and I'd be really bummed if there weren't Ben. | ||
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And I... And then we started talking, hanging out. | |
| Sometimes that's all it takes. | ||
| You know, we all get set in our ways. | ||
| You get these grudges and these stupid things that you stick in your head. | ||
| The best shit is camaraderie. | ||
| Friendship and love, that's the best shit. | ||
| It's like, whatever you gotta do, and most people want that. | ||
| If you ever felt that for someone at one point in time, you probably would feel it again. | ||
| Whatever shit you have together, you just gotta talk it out. | ||
| Talk it out and don't carry grudges. | ||
| Carrying grudges is the worst. | ||
| Well, we needed to step back for a minute. | ||
| Yeah, sometimes we all do, right? | ||
| We had some work to do on ourselves. | ||
| We took two years, really, where we didn't speak much at all. | ||
| And when we did, it wasn't good. | ||
| By the way, shout out to Balls of Steel from the old Robin Ford. | ||
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Balls of Steel! | |
| You brought us all together. | ||
|
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Oh my God. | |
| That's an inside story, huh? | ||
| God, how long? | ||
| It's been a while now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What if it was us the whole time? | ||
| It was us the whole time. | ||
| Well, you were right. | ||
| You had to be talented. | ||
| The video he sent was you guys do an Angel of Death acoustic on the roof of a building in LA. So crazy. | ||
| That building is right now on fire. | ||
| Probably. | ||
|
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Rightfully so. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Yeah, when we were practicing last night, there was an earthquake. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| And I was just watching my living room, and I looked at Ben, and I was like, fuck! | ||
| No! | ||
|
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What? | |
| Well, it's like laryngitis doesn't stop. | ||
| An earthquake doesn't stop. | ||
| It's like God saying bam. | ||
| Just a little one. | ||
|
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Shake it up. | |
| Bam! | ||
| See, that's why I don't say bam. | ||
| Could have been saying titties. | ||
| He could have been saying a lot of things. | ||
| He's God. | ||
| Titties. | ||
| He invented all languages. | ||
| In all things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All the bad words. | ||
| God invented those, too. | ||
| God invented racial slurs, so we have to work it out. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| He left us with the work. | ||
| He invented all the... | ||
| We need to find a good one for white people. | ||
| We really need to balance this out. | ||
| A good, juicy slur. | ||
| It's not a solid one. | ||
| It's Karen's. | ||
| What's the white one, Brock? | ||
| Chad? | ||
| I think Bradley feels... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of poor Bradleys out there. | ||
| But there's a lot of good Bradleys. | ||
| Like, what's that Bradley the actor? | ||
| Bradley Cooper? | ||
| That guy's badass. | ||
| He's a really good actor. | ||
| Super great. | ||
| So he can't be a Bradley. | ||
| But there's a lot of cool Chads. | ||
| Yeah, Brad Pitt. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| Chad Ward. | ||
| Chad Dawson. | ||
| There's a lot of great boxers named Chad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can't even go with Chad! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Jamie, what do you got? | ||
| Turn it around. | ||
| Jamie can't say shit. | ||
| He's got a girl's name. | ||
| What you gonna do? | ||
|
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Hey! | |
| What you gonna do? | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that, Jamie. | ||
|
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Just open it. | |
| Calm it down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with having a girl's name. | ||
| Let's move past gender, Joe. | ||
| Bro, I was a kid saying that when I was a kid. | ||
| Listen, you know I love you, Jamie. | ||
| Don't spell it that way, Joe. | ||
| You know I love you. | ||
| I mean, you could be a Kim. | ||
| What's a different way with girls? | ||
| Is J-A-M-I with no E? Most of them spell it with the I before the M. That's funny, it's Jamie with no E. Use a Y. Oh, no. | ||
| We're going to piss off what his name is. | ||
| Stacey's a rude one to name a boy. | ||
| Stacey's tough. | ||
| That's rude. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Leslie's kind of tough. | ||
|
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Leslie's rude! | |
| It's on the edge. | ||
| You hate your kid. | ||
| It's like a boy named Sue. | ||
| It's a Johnny Cash song. | ||
| Johnny Cash wrote a goddamn song about it. | ||
| Michelle Stoverstein wrote that. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And Johnny Cash sung it. | ||
| That was a great fucking song. | ||
| Truth? | ||
| That's a great fucking song. | ||
| I like boy names for girls. | ||
| I think that always, like Bobby or Billy. | ||
| If they're hot, they can pull it off. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Actually, I wanted to name a girl named Gary. | ||
| If I ever procreated. | ||
|
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Would you do that to that poor little kid? | |
| Yeah, but she'd be like the fucking coolest Gary on the planet. | ||
| That's one thing she would probably get over people fucking with her real early in life. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Because sometimes if you don't know... | ||
| That's not how the Boy Named Su song went though. | ||
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He didn't pan out so well. | |
| Then it didn't work out. | ||
| But who knows what Gary's going to be dealing with in 15 years. | ||
| She's going to be crazy. | ||
| She doesn't care. | ||
| I think she's going to be crushing it. | ||
| People will be beyond that. | ||
| I am not ready to have children. | ||
|
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Well, then don't have kids. | |
| One thing that the kid zealots like to do is they like to pretend that everybody needs to have kids. | ||
| In order to be valuable in this life, you need to have kids. | ||
| That's a lot of fucking pressure on people. | ||
| Is that a thing? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| When someone's doing something, they think you should be doing it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like you talk to someone who just started meditating and they can't shut... | ||
| That's me. | ||
| I can never shut the fuck up about what I like doing. | ||
| I'm always trying to get people to do things. | ||
| You know, but that's the thing that people with kids are, dude, you gotta have a fucking kid. | ||
|
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You gotta have a fucking kid. | |
| Trust me. | ||
| Where's your life? | ||
|
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What are you doing? | |
| You're not gonna have children? | ||
| You're not gonna procreate. | ||
| Your neighbors aren't gonna carry on like that. | ||
| Settle down, man. | ||
| That's never resonated with me, like a legacy. | ||
| Because you don't have a penis. | ||
| No, but even with my career, I just won't play music. | ||
| I don't really think about what's going to last when I'm dead. | ||
| There's nothing wrong. | ||
| You're a great person. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with any way of approaching this life. | ||
| Have children. | ||
| Don't have children. | ||
| Sing music. | ||
| Don't sing music. | ||
| You can do whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| You're a great person. | ||
| And I do. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I appreciate that, friend. | ||
| Listen, friend. | ||
| But this thing that people put pressure on folks that they have to have kids or their life is not valid and meaningful. | ||
| Probably because they're having trouble dealing with the pressure of having kids, maybe. | ||
| Maybe, but it's all silly because you don't live forever. | ||
| No one, your children won't live forever. | ||
| No one lives forever. | ||
| You live, you die, you've got to keep moving. | ||
| While you're alive, you should just be happy. | ||
| Just be happy. | ||
| You're contributing. | ||
| Everyone's contributing. | ||
| Whether you have kids or don't have kids. | ||
| When you don't have kids, you have the option to love and support the kids in your peripheral area, like my nieces and nephew and stuff, and my friends' kids, and then you can go home and you don't have to deal with the other shit. | ||
| Yep, sure, sure. | ||
| But then, for me, it was a strong education. | ||
| Education in humanity and just learning how to be a person, a different kind of person, a person that raises little people, a person that's responsible for babies. | ||
| It's a totally different feel. | ||
| It's like, whew, it fucks with your head. | ||
| For a lot of people, it creates a ton of anxiety and existential angst and fear about the future. | ||
| Well, the thing is, if I were to have kids, I would, like, being a mother would be, like, the number one priority. | ||
| Like, nothing comes before then. | ||
| And, you know, I would take that seriously. | ||
| And it's just something that, you know, when you think about... | ||
| And I'm like, now's the time. | ||
| How old are you now? | ||
| Am I allowed to ask a lady? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I'm 35. Oh, you can still pull it off for a few years. | ||
| I don't age shame, you know? | ||
| I'm really happy with where I'm at. | ||
| I think that's so funny when people get really squeamish about that. | ||
| Well, they feel like they only have a certain amount of time to grab that lightning in the bottle and be validated. | ||
| And, you know, some people just think... | ||
| It's going to burn out quick and then life is going to suck. | ||
| Somebody age shamed me once and was like, you're almost 40. And I was like, what's wrong with 40? | ||
| Was this online? | ||
| No. | ||
| That sounds like a YouTube comment. | ||
| Unfortunately, no. | ||
| That was in real life someone said that? | ||
| A guy you know? | ||
| Oh, rude. | ||
| How weak. | ||
| But I mean, again, why would someone do that? | ||
| They're trying to make you feel bad because they don't feel good. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's always the case. | ||
| It's no one who feels great is on top of the world. | ||
| Dalai Lama's not out there leaving shitty YouTube comments. | ||
| What if he was, though? | ||
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Imagine if he was. | |
| Secretly like... | ||
| Did you ever see the video? | ||
| I don't know if you know this, but he got canceled for a little while. | ||
| No! | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| Yeah, the Dalai Lama got cancelled. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| I bet he dealt with it fine. | ||
| He was actually talking about this exact same subject. | ||
| He did this interview where they said, you know, you're celibate, and have you ever thought about being married or having children? | ||
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He goes, oh, I've seen a lot of marriages. | |
| Much worry. | ||
| Much cancer. | ||
| And he goes, plus, when they break up, a woman get all the money. | ||
|
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Ha, ha, ha, ha. | |
| He's like joking around. | ||
| And the lady's like, what the fuck? | ||
| This is the Dalai Lama? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And then she goes, she actually tries to social justice her way out of it. | ||
| Because, you know, she's got to confront him. | ||
| She goes, actually, sometimes the woman makes her own money. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And he's like, oh, good one! | ||
| And sometimes! | ||
| And so they just put him in time out for a minute? | ||
| People were saying, should we cancel the Dalai Lama? | ||
| It was really funny. | ||
| It was really funny. | ||
| He's like, you can cancel him if it needs to happen. | ||
| Then I see him a couple years later, new person, new girlfriend, much worry, much cancer. | ||
| Still holding that line. | ||
| Pussy talks about how women want to spend all the guys' money. | ||
| I'm like, this is hilarious. | ||
| But has he had a girlfriend? | ||
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Never! | |
| He maybe doesn't know about that stuff. | ||
| That's guesswork. | ||
| You should tell him. | ||
| It's straight guesswork. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that's part of that. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't know. | ||
| That life is a strange life. | ||
| You know, they picked him when he was a baby. | ||
| He was like a little kid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was a little kid. | ||
| They picked him and they said, you're the fucking man, bro. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
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Is he seven? | |
| When the last one dies. | ||
| He was really young. | ||
| I think he was seven. | ||
| When the last one dies, they pick a new one. | ||
| They have a slate of little babies. | ||
| They're like, could be you, could be you, could be you. | ||
| How is that monitored? | ||
| They just have a vibe. | ||
| It's like a council of... | ||
| Is there a hat? | ||
| And you put a bunch of names in it? | ||
| Or is it like a... | ||
| I'm not there. | ||
| I haven't seen it done. | ||
| Is it required that he's celibate? | ||
| Is that part of the gig? | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| That's so rude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can't you come to me in my 50s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why do you want to come to me as a holy man when I'm seven? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't have a choice yet. | ||
| You cut off the sex at seven? | ||
| Never... | ||
| Wait. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| Okay, sorry. | ||
| I misinterpreted. | ||
| I'm saying they're not allowed to ever have sex. | ||
| They're not castrating him. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I didn't think so. | ||
| Once you said it, I was like, is this something I don't know? | ||
| It's really a rude way to put it. | ||
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Dummy. | |
| Sorry. | ||
| It's not like they ever put it on. | ||
| No, it was already there. | ||
| He's a baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's already attached. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Now I'm thinking about the Dalai Lama's penis. | ||
| What year did they pick the Dalai Lama? | ||
| Never thought that would happen. | ||
| No, I didn't either. | ||
| First time. | ||
| We share a birthday, I think I should tell you all. | ||
| You and the Dalai Lama? | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You might be spiritual. | ||
| Those people are hilarious. | ||
| 1984? | ||
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85? | |
| I share a birthday with the Dalai Lama. | ||
| It's pretty much the same, Joe. | ||
| Also, a conscious stream. | ||
| There's a consciousness stream. | ||
| You know what I watched last night that I haven't seen? | ||
| I don't think I ever saw it through. | ||
| It was Zoolander. | ||
| Oh, it's so good. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
|
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So ridiculous. | |
| Who am I? It's so ridiculous. | ||
| What a great idea to have a super vapid, beautiful man. | ||
| Oh, it's so good. | ||
| In one of those really slapsticky, silly comedies. | ||
| There's so much truth to it, though. | ||
| That's the sad part. | ||
| I enjoyed the shit out of it. | ||
| You knew male models when you were doing male modeling. | ||
| I did. | ||
| You were doing male modeling? | ||
| You were doing male modeling, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Back in my formative years when I was a male model, news grenade, things have changed. | ||
| No, I did. | ||
| I did, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's kind of like, I've got to choose my words carefully here. | ||
| There's a thing. | ||
| I think modeling in general is a very odd thing. | ||
| I was a model from 14 to like 18. It's kind of like the Dalai Lama. | ||
| They just chose you. | ||
| No. | ||
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Wait. | |
| I went for it. | ||
| And my mom took me to this agency and I was making money. | ||
| I was just working every other week for value city department stores. | ||
| Anyone? | ||
| Where my Clevelanders at. | ||
| And eventually I kept getting... | ||
| I never saw it as the end all be all. | ||
| I wanted the bridge to something else as I figured out where my area of entertainment was. | ||
| I was an actor for a while. | ||
| But, you know, if that's all you got and you're just sort of, like, paid to look beautiful, like, there's something really fucked up about that. | ||
| Like, it's not a healthy mindset. | ||
| And I saw lots of eating disorders and all kinds of really sad shit that, like, you know, people's identities are wrapped up in this. | ||
| And I remember I... I gained a little weight when I was 18 because I went on birth control. | ||
| And I was in the middle of my agency and they were measuring me in front of people. | ||
| And they were like, you got to lose two inches. | ||
| And it's a fucking hard thing. | ||
| And I just quit. | ||
| I started bartending. | ||
| I didn't want it that badly. | ||
| And I like pizza. | ||
| That's such a weird thing to say. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's really fucked up. | ||
| That's so specific. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What if I lose two and a half? | ||
| Would you get me worried? | ||
| Well, you need to fit the clothes, you know? | ||
| I think, I mean, I don't... | ||
| It's like fighters, though, right? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I didn't mean to compare. | ||
|
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But actually, I kind of like it. | |
| But they're used in every way. | ||
| They're used to hearing that guy saying... | ||
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When I was training as a model. | |
| Alright, alright. | ||
| Rescinded. | ||
| But no, it is a thing where you're both relying on your body entirely for your living. | ||
| There's a skill involved though. | ||
| And for women, I would imagine women already worry about being marginalized for their brain anyway. | ||
| So then it's almost like some of them feel like they have to prove themselves extra because they happen to be pretty and they're a model and people just assume they're a moron. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's an issue too. | ||
| Yeah, that's an issue. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But there's also people who figure it out. | ||
| There's girls who do it and then they do other shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It can be done. | ||
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Hey, it's me, Suze. | |
| There you go. | ||
| That's why I get kind of annoyed when people will talk about any job being inherently toxic. | ||
| Okay, a lot of jobs have the potential for toxicity, everything. | ||
| Including, like, you know, fucking everything. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| All jobs could fuck you up. | ||
| All jobs could distort your perception. | ||
| I mean, how about being a cop? | ||
| That could fucking distort your perception. | ||
| How about being a doctor? | ||
| Emergency room doctor. | ||
| Every day, bullet wounds, stab wounds, car accidents. | ||
| Dealing with that every day. | ||
| That shit's gotta be bad for you. | ||
| That kid can't be good for your head. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Oh, the model's worried about losing two inches. | ||
| You're gonna be okay? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, like, I'm okay. | ||
| I'm not gonna keep my violin out over this. | ||
| You know, the doctor's not 14 years old. | ||
| That's a difference. | ||
| Oh, you're only super hot, not super duper hot? | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| How do you do it? | ||
| I was definitely lower level. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I was like catalog. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I knew what I was. | ||
| It's all kind of crazy, right? | ||
| You just get this amazing roll of the dice with your bone structure and then everybody's like, here's some money. | ||
| You're like, what do I have to do for this? | ||
| You don't have to do anything. | ||
| You just gotta do this. | ||
| Dance like a monkey, Derek. | ||
| Well, you've got to be smart with it. | ||
| You've got to know what it is. | ||
| Know that there's an expiration date on it. | ||
| What are you going to do with the money you make? | ||
| What are you going to do with any of the... | ||
| That's how I started acting, and I loved it. | ||
| It's kind of crazy, though, if you really stop and think about it. | ||
| That is the biggest lottery in life for a lot of folks, is how do you look? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're Jason Momoa, it's amazing that he's a good guy. | ||
| It's amazing that he's a good guy. | ||
| Because he's too beautiful. | ||
| He's too good looking. | ||
| You know he was sitting next to us at the Sturgill concert. | ||
| He was on one side and then Johnny Bernthal, the Punisher, was on the other and it was like one of the best days of my life. | ||
| Well, it was cool. | ||
| I enjoyed that very much. | ||
| I don't get to see concerts like that. | ||
| It was so great. | ||
| And to go and see it with you, that was really fun. | ||
| We had fun. | ||
| We had dinner together. | ||
| Where was the show? | ||
| The show was at the Troubadour. | ||
| The Troubadour? | ||
| Dude, it was awesome. | ||
| And it was the Fire and Fury, this new shit that he's doing. | ||
| But he's also doing a lot of stuff from his old catalog, too. | ||
| So it was awesome. | ||
| And it was real intimate. | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| 400 people or something? | ||
| Five. | ||
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Stuff. | |
| We sold it out once. | ||
| We know. | ||
| It was like one of the greatest moments of Honey Honey. | ||
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And it's also one of the great venues in L.A. It's a double-decker, but it's still intimate. | |
| It's really rare in the way it's set up. | ||
| I mean, it's set up amazing. | ||
| Like, where we were was incredible. | ||
| Like, up above, in that little balcony area, next to the Punisher. | ||
| A lot of intensity. | ||
| We talked about this. | ||
| I think I told you this, but when we went to dinner afterwards, John Prine was right in front of us, and I... Really, really wanted to tell him how much I loved his music. | ||
| And I chickened out. | ||
| Yeah, I remember we were talking about it. | ||
| I didn't know who he was. | ||
| That was the first time I ever heard of him. | ||
| And then when I heard he died from COVID, I was like, oh, that's that dude. | ||
| You know, he's worth checking out and really digging into who he was. | ||
| Sergio loved him. | ||
| Yeah, he's magical. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Can you remember a specific famous song that people would recommend? | ||
| Angel from Montgomery. | ||
| Can you do it? | ||
| I'll mess it up. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Ben! | ||
| Can you pull up the lyrics? | ||
| Listen, one of the best music shows I've ever seen in my life is when you guys were on stage with Gary Clark and you were singing Midnight Rider. | ||
| Careful, you might have to pay the Allman Brothers right now. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| That shit got pulled off the podcast. | ||
| We have to pay the Allman Brothers. | ||
| Or whoever owns it. | ||
| Yeah, when that happens more than three times, they can't see your fucking account. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, this might be sloppy. | ||
| Oh, look at that, Susan. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Is that good? | ||
| Is this key? | ||
| Do the Bonnie Raitt key. | ||
| I don't know what key she does in, but we'll just find it. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
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All right. | |
| Forgive her. | ||
| It might be weird. | ||
| People are fine with this. | ||
| Don't worry about this. | ||
| They love the weirdness. | ||
| People love seeing how musicians put together a song. | ||
| You're just talking, and then you jump into an awesome song. | ||
| It always puts the pressure on. | ||
| There's no pressure. | ||
| In the best way. | ||
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It's good for you. | |
| I know. | ||
| My heart is racing. | ||
| Have a sip of that whiskey. | ||
| Explain this whiskey again, Ben. | ||
| That whiskey, Uncle Nearest, this guy named Nathan Green, was at least, to my knowledge, the first recognized master distiller who was an African-American, taught Jack Daniels how to do his thing. | ||
| Freed slave after the Civil War. | ||
| And this is the whiskey you brought in. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| It says 1856. That's it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Did you hear that? | |
| I wasn't listening. | ||
| Got it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, is that that key? | ||
| Who was singing that version of it? | ||
| Bonnie Raitt. | ||
| Bonnie Raitt's Beast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That lady. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I am an old woman named after my mother. | ||
| My old man is another child that's grown old. | ||
| If dreams were thunder and lightning was desire, this old house would have burned down a long time ago. | ||
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Make me an angel. | |
| Oh. | ||
| flies from Montgomery Make me a poster of an old rodeo Just give me one thing that I can hold on to To believe in this living is just a hard way Right? | ||
| Job Prime, come on. | ||
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Wow. | |
| We'll have to work that out in a fuller version. | ||
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Whatever, you sound great. | |
| There's more to it. | ||
| Do you want to keep going? | ||
| Well, you want to play Big Man? | ||
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Let's keep playing. | |
| Okay, keep playing this one. | ||
| This is so good, though. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| I love Big Man, too, though. | ||
| I want to hear that next. | ||
| All right. | ||
| When I was a young girl And I had me a cowboy It wasn't much to look at Just a free rambling man That was a long time No matter how I tried Those years just flown by Like a broken down man Baby Just | ||
| give me one thing I can hold on to To believe in this living It's just a hard way to go Tag it Leaving this living is a hard way to go. | ||
| That was beautiful. | ||
| That was really beautiful. | ||
| You get the living room jam. | ||
| You guys should 100% cover that song. | ||
| 100%. | ||
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I think we just did it. | |
| You did. | ||
| But you should put that on something. | ||
| That was awesome. | ||
| We gotta do it for Joe. | ||
| Don't do it for me. | ||
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Do it for the world. | |
| King of Spotify, we will do it for you. | ||
| I'm not even the prince. | ||
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You're not even the prince. | |
| You're the king. | ||
| I'm the court jester. | ||
| Oh, whatever. | ||
| Humble man. | ||
| You want to do big man? | ||
| Since we're like here. | ||
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Yeah, let's do it. | |
| I might need to tune up though because it's chilly in here. | ||
| Is it chilly in here? | ||
| Do you want to... | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| From the fiddle point. | ||
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Not bad. | |
| Let me tune it. | ||
| And this isn't live. | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But we're not editing it. | ||
| Okay, okay, okay. | ||
| Well, shit. | ||
| Isn't that crazy that you know how, whether it's warm or cold, based on the strings, based on you running that thing across, what is that thing called? | ||
| The wand. | ||
| It's a wand. | ||
| That's so much better than what it's called. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| It's called a wand. | ||
| It's a bow. | ||
| It's called a bow. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| Yeah, it's a bow. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Bow and fiddle. | ||
| Made out of horse hair. | ||
| Is it made out of horse hair? | ||
| I'm going to call it a wand now. | ||
| A wand sounds better, right? | ||
| What's that music wand? | ||
| Because I've always wanted to be a wizard. | ||
| You kind of are. | ||
| I was watching this one thing on TikTok where they had this girl who was a witch and they said, you know, we want to know, like, have you actively cursed the police officers and have you cursed the looters? | ||
| And she was going, oh yeah, we've already done that. | ||
| We've already put hexes on all of that. | ||
| So we're good, right? | ||
| Like, there's active witches out there. | ||
| On the road to peace. | ||
| Check. | ||
| I mean, well, I have comments on that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Comments on witches? | ||
| No, more intentions of like what a spell is and like the way that people orchestrate that. | ||
| It's kind of powerful. | ||
| It's like prayer in a way. | ||
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Yeah, but it gets weird. | |
| Well, we all want people to like us and all someone has to do is not like you ferociously and that can make you upset. | ||
| I'm not talking about negative spells. | ||
| But I'm just saying that's the beginning of it, right? | ||
| If someone has a lot of intention and they put intention on you like having a terrible life or you getting diseases and you hear about that, it probably fucks with your head. | ||
| I mean, that's what voodoo is probably all about. | ||
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For sure. | |
| And for all intents and purposes, I think there are ramifications if that is the trajectory. | ||
| If you're really putting bad vibes into something, it's going to come back in a really shitty way. | ||
| But they only do it because their life sucks. | ||
| I think people that do shit like that, they do it because their life sucks. | ||
| Let's hope their lives get better. | ||
| Let's do that. | ||
| Let's give them the tools. | ||
| This is for them. | ||
| Actually, no. | ||
| This is for... | ||
| We're going to play Big Man? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we want to do this... | ||
| This is for them. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's got another idea. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| We want to dedicate this to George Floyd because his nickname was Big Floyd. | ||
| I obviously didn't know him. | ||
| Well, not all of the lyrics line up, but it's an homage to a great man who passed originally and it just feels apropos. | ||
| To do it now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Can you face me a little bit? | ||
| Grazie. | ||
| Oh, how they cried when the big man died They spilled buckets out of their eyes | ||
| Playing white faces and playing grey stones, he took that white coat Sing for that big man, | ||
| baby Down by the river in the railroad tracks Baby ain't happy that he's gone But that won't bring him back to life now When he went down, there was a trembling pull And they came far and wide to the few. | ||
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When the people showed up, they were broken willed. | |
| They drink all day and they pop pills. | ||
| Sing for that big man, baby. | ||
| Down by the river in the railroad tracks. | ||
| Baby ain't happy that he's gone. | ||
| That won't bring him back to life. | ||
| guitar solo Bones | ||
| buried young Bones buried deep Bones that won't shake Now lay to sleep And he looks down, oh he looks up. | ||
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He was a good man. | |
| That was enough. | ||
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Sing for that big man, baby. | |
| Down by the river and the railroad tracks. | ||
| Baby ain't happy that he's gone. | ||
| But I won't bring it back to life now. | ||
| Sing for that big man, baby. | ||
| Down by the river and the railroad tracks. | ||
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Baby ain't happy that he's gone. | |
| And I won't bring it back to life now. | ||
| I won't bring it back to life now. | ||
| That was tough. | ||
| We got through it. | ||
| All this stuff that's been going on lately. | ||
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You know, it's nervous coming on. | |
| Dedicating it to George Floyd. | ||
| I'm like, what are you doing? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's obviously intense time. | ||
| I think ultimately society needed this. | ||
| They didn't need that guy to die, but they needed this event to snap out of whatever bullshit relationship particularly the black community has with police and the videos that have come out since of police officers doing shit while this is all going on during this like it's like they have a they have a pattern Some of these cops. | ||
| They can't break out of it. | ||
| They're used to treating people like shit. | ||
| They're used to violently assaulting people. | ||
| Yes, the directive. | ||
| There's so much of it. | ||
| There's so much crazy shit of guys using batons on women just standing there. | ||
| The girl's just standing there. | ||
| And he's using the baton on the front of her thighs and throws her onto the ground. | ||
| I'm like, fucking come on, man. | ||
| How are you doing this? | ||
| Because someone won't comply. | ||
| The position of being a person that has that kind of power over people, where people have to comply to you, is just psychologically fraught with peril. | ||
| Whether it's black people, there's a lot of it doing with white people. | ||
| There's a horrible video on my friend Joe Schilling's page. | ||
| Joe, you know, Joe Schilling the kickboxer. | ||
| He's got a page on his Instagram. | ||
| He's been putting post after post is police brutality shit. | ||
| Post after post. | ||
| It's like, is this to serve or protect? | ||
| And this is this old man and the guy has a cane and the cops are slamming into him with their shield and he goes flying and falls and hits his head on a bike rack. | ||
| It's fucking horrible. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| I mean, that has been going on. | ||
| It's been going on in the black community, clearly. | ||
| We have a shitload of evidence that's been going on with all kinds of people. | ||
| It's an overall problem. | ||
| There's a racism component to it, but the problem is police brutality. | ||
| I was reading about... | ||
| So 40% of police officers have sleep disorders and PTSD. So they're just constantly... | ||
| 40% of police officers have sleep disorders and admit to error on the job, i.e. | ||
| falling asleep in their cruisers, violent acts, anger issues. | ||
| And, you know, a lot of... | ||
| I'm trying to understand... | ||
| As much as possible because it's so fucking sensitive. | ||
| They need to apply the same rehabilitative mindset to the police force as people are calling for in communities of color as well. | ||
| Obviously, it has to be a joint effort. | ||
| Look, they have to do something. | ||
| Something has to be done to psychologically address the real consequences of seeing violence and murder and horrible things every day. | ||
| There's a price you're paying if that's what you're doing with your life. | ||
| Like you open the door, a guy killed himself with a shotgun. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Just brain splatter all over the wall. | ||
| Open the door, there's a girl who was raped and stabbed. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| You know, open the door, there's someone who just overdosed from fentanyl. | ||
| They're 18 years old. | ||
| That's what you're seeing all day long. | ||
| You're just always like, fucking... | ||
| And the solution isn't to just pay them more. | ||
| Like, oh, here's hazard pay. | ||
| Well, my friend Dakota Meyer. | ||
| Dakota Meyer is a guy who served overseas and had some horrific instances where he literally had to fight a man to the death and kill him with a rock. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, heavy shit. | ||
| He talked about it on the podcast. | ||
| I was like, fuck. | ||
| He's fighting for his life with this guy because they were in war. | ||
| The guy was the enemy and he had to kill a bunch of guys that day and save his friend. | ||
| It's a crazy story that's best told by him. | ||
| But anyway, point is, he was talking about this shot that they're doing on soldiers with PTSD. It's some kind of a blocker shot. | ||
| You remember that shot, Jamie? | ||
| I could text him if we have to but they give it to Soldiers and people with PTSD and whatever that anxiety is all that fucking pent-up shit that just you just can't be normal It goes away and it can last for as long as a year What? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| It's a shot. | ||
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It's called... | |
| There's got to be some weird... | ||
| It's administered by healthcare professionals into the neck of an individual with screens suffering from PTSD. The treatment is not a cure for PTSD. He was talking about how amazing it was. | ||
| He was saying... | ||
| See right there, that second article there, it said something about prolonged relief. | ||
| For the debilitating symptoms, yeah. | ||
| It's not a cure, however, it's highly effective, well-tolerated, fast-acting, inexpensive biologic technique that provides prolonged relief from the debilitating symptoms of PTSD. Did they just start doing that? | ||
| Is that a brand new thing? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think it's pretty recent. | ||
| But I also think that your brain, when it encounters a lot of things that are awful, I think it really alters the chemistry of your brain. | ||
| I think it really alters your ability to make good decisions. | ||
| You can make a real rational case that they're almost intoxicated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Well, they're running on adrenaline. | ||
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Right. | |
| When you see these cops, did you see when they were clearing out the square for Trump to have his Bible photo op? | ||
| You've got cops slamming into people. | ||
| Like, how do they get that ramped up that they're doing that? | ||
| Could you ever do that? | ||
| Would you just walk right up to someone and slam them with a shield? | ||
| Of course you wouldn't. | ||
| Like, you have to get— These guys are terrified, too, obviously. | ||
| The cops are terrified, for sure. | ||
| But you have to get to a point where you can do that, right? | ||
| There's something has to happen. | ||
| Well, that's a biologic drug that your body's producing. | ||
| And these guys are junkies. | ||
| They're adrenaline junkies. | ||
| Literally, I told you about the therapy I just did. | ||
| This is what I've been trying to weed out of my life is my insomnia and get my brain levels and my... | ||
| I've just been running on adrenaline. | ||
| And now that I'm leveling out, It's so weird to live – I can function better. | ||
| I can process my stress in a way that I never could for over a decade. | ||
| And the reason I was – I was reading about Saraset – I think they did this study. | ||
| I'll send it to you at some point and we could probably post it. | ||
| But the – The conditions that police officers are under physically, like from night shifts just to stress to what you said, opening the door and seeing all these just horrifying things and not having the therapeutic elements and rehabilitation. | ||
| And then you factor in racism or just discrimination. | ||
| Like, I mean, it's a lethal combination and it's so crazy to just see it like we are every day now. | ||
| It's just all out in the open. | ||
| And now it's like, what do we do to help these people? | ||
| Like get to the point, the place that they're supposed to be, which is protecting us. | ||
| Well, you got a clean house. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You got a clean house. | ||
| You got to go in there and you got to get it rid of anyone who exhibits any sort of behavior like that in any way, in any abusive, you can't have any abuse. | ||
| Because you have an extraordinary ability to control people. | ||
| A normal person is not allowed to treat people like that. | ||
| So for you to be able to do that, you have to show that you're an unusual person. | ||
| You're a powerful person. | ||
| You can control it. | ||
| You can be a good person even under the pressure of life or death conflict on a daily basis. | ||
| That's not a normal person. | ||
| And by the way, when these guys are in it 15, 20 years, how fucking sick are they by 20 years? | ||
| And how unprepared are they when they've been training for six months? | ||
| And boom, done. | ||
| You're out on the street. | ||
| How about a day? | ||
| Well, and they're 18. First day of the job. | ||
| A lot of cops sign up for law enforcement when they're fucking 18 years old. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Your brain's not even fully formed. | ||
| No, exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, that in and of itself, you get, like, a big, strong kid, you know? | ||
| And I'm primarily speaking about men. | ||
| You know, I'm sure women could do it, too, but, like, it's different. | ||
| And, you know, their brain's not fully formed, and then their life is in your hands. | ||
| Or your life is in their hands. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like, what? | ||
| Well, another thing that came out of this whole COVID thing, and then with this coming afterwards, it's like, when you're dealing with perpetually crime-ridden neighborhoods, like, they've had crime in them forever, and a lot of these neighborhoods are African-American neighborhoods that have had crime, | ||
| like, whether it's the south side of Chicago or outside of Baltimore, like, when you see how the government can spend so much money bailing out corporations that are fucked, But they don't bail out cities that are fucked? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| You knew Baltimore was fucked. | ||
| No one had any questions whether parts of Baltimore were just fucked. | ||
| In fact, there was laws. | ||
| They used to redline. | ||
| You weren't allowed to buy a house in certain areas if you were an African American. | ||
| So we know that. | ||
| How come you bail out corporations because you never bailed out these inner cities? | ||
| It would have cost a fraction to set up community centers, build much better affordable housing. | ||
| Leadership is too short-sighted for that, and that's like a spiritual deficit. | ||
| But what's crazy is they all want to pretend that they're pro-American. | ||
| If you were pro-American, you would want less losers. | ||
| You would want more people that have an opportunity to get out of bad circumstances. | ||
| And whatever those bad circumstances are, you'd want to keep people safe. | ||
| You're always going to run into bad circumstances with people that have drug addictions. | ||
| You're not going to cure all that. | ||
| That's a human issue. | ||
| Humans are crazy. | ||
| You're not going to stop broken families and all that stuff. | ||
| That's just a part of being a person. | ||
| But you can do a way better job of protecting people from crime, a way better job Of insulating them from drug deals and all that crazy shit. | ||
| Well, and shielding them or integrating people in a healthier way into an economic system that addresses their needs. | ||
| But that's what we're so vulnerable from, from a leadership perspective. | ||
| Because of lobbying and because of just like a natural instinct of self-protectionism. | ||
| And like, well, I've got to make sure that my family is taken care of first and not. | ||
| The cornerstone speech that Killer Mike encouraged people to read, did you guys read that? | ||
| I've seen it, yeah. | ||
| It's really intense and, you know, it was written by, names escaping me, but like a confederate. | ||
| Yeah, okay, the vice president. | ||
| I was going to say president or vice president of the confederacy. | ||
| And like for all intents and purposes like the first half of the speech was like pretty logical in terms of commerce and how to care for your cities and like you know just you know economics and then he just gets down to this part where he talks about African Americans is like They're subhuman. | ||
| It's just so clear cut and dry in his mind that the superior race is white. | ||
| By God, he was quoting the Bible and thousands and millions of people, millions of people Follow that ethos. | ||
| And that doesn't just go away. | ||
| So in terms of redlining, when people want to know why ghettos, it's so hard to get out of the ghetto. | ||
| This has been made by design and even further back, just the thought. | ||
| That, like, yeah, black people are the slaves. | ||
| Like, they're beneath us. | ||
| So they need to be in their place. | ||
| And, like, it's just nuts, like, to read this speech. | ||
| It was – and to think about how many people were behind it. | ||
| And that's what we're up against, even though it was 300 or 400 years ago. | ||
| Is that what it was, 1600s? | ||
| 18. Sorry. | ||
| Well, it's weird walking in, being an adult in 2020, right, and not having anything to do with anything that happened in the 1800s, but you walk into the wake Of that era, into the echo of that era. | ||
| It's not that long ago. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| 150 years ago, there was... | ||
| 152 years ago, there were slaves. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's not even two lifetimes. | ||
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Yeah, that's a blink of an eye. | |
| That's a blink of an eye. | ||
| It's not that long ago. | ||
| Yeah, and what's really crazy is... | ||
| Like, we have a thing that we do with Native Americans, right? | ||
| We kind of acknowledge that our settlers, the European settlers, the original great—whether they're your relatives or not, mine aren't. | ||
| Mine all came third—I'm third generation, so my family arrived in the 20th century. | ||
| But the people that arrived— Earlier than that, like if your family goes all the way back to 1600, there's some fucking Native American blood on your hands, son. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| There just is. | ||
| Well, my father was in the railroad business. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| How did he get that fucking railroad through Indian country? | ||
| You had to kill some people, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the United States has kind of acknowledged that they fucked up and they gave the Native Americans reservations. | ||
| That was the whole idea. | ||
| It's like you can have your own laws. | ||
| You can make casinos. | ||
| You can do wild shit. | ||
| You can do it all right here. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We're just going to leave you alone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's real slippery, right? | ||
| But they didn't... | ||
| You know, that's a false promise. | ||
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Yeah, they didn't leave them alone. | |
| If they started finding wealth on their lands, then it got even worse. | ||
| I just read this book called Killers of the Flower Moon, which is just a... | ||
| A horrifying thing that happened in our history that is not well known with the Osage Native American tribe in Oklahoma, and they were all forced onto this reservation, and it turned out to be millions and millions of dollars rich in oil. | ||
| And then all of the members of the tribe were given head rights, and every year all these white people would come in, and they would rent their land basically for oil rigs. | ||
| And each member of the tribe had millions of dollars. | ||
| But the government didn't recognize them as full citizens, so they were given stewards to manage their wealth. | ||
| So a lot of them were living in poverty while their fucking babysitters were robbing them, murdering them. | ||
| And the whole book is about this series of murders and also how the FBI was birthed. | ||
| Oh my god, damn the FBI again! | ||
| So Hoover used this as his platform because, but the sad part is there was like three dudes that went to jail for killing like 25 people. | ||
| One, they weren't given, they weren't put to death because no white jury could kill them for killing Native Americans because they weren't considered full human. | ||
| Jenny, send me a picture of that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It's insane, and it's heartbreaking, and it really echoes what's going on now with the way that black people are treated. | ||
| It's like, people didn't give a fuck about Native Americans. | ||
| And then they got rich, and then they're like, let's fuck them again. | ||
| Let's make sure that we can still steal from them. | ||
| It's horrifying. | ||
| But the thing is, there was no justice for their murderers. | ||
| It was like a coup. | ||
| There were just so many people that would come in and marry an Osage tribe member. | ||
| And then murder them just to get their head rights. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| Was it mostly chicks murdering dudes? | ||
| No, it was everything. | ||
| They poisoned them a lot. | ||
| There's a lot of poisoning. | ||
| What is this, Jamie? | ||
| This book was this option into the new Martin Scorsese. | ||
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No shit! | |
| What?! | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| You just did that. | ||
| You just did that on the Joe Rogan podcast. | ||
| I think it's an old book. | ||
| I think it's a pretty old book. | ||
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I literally picked it up at my parents' house when I was in quarantine. | |
| Martin Scorsese, De Niro, and DiCaprio. | ||
| It was that or Lord of the Flies? | ||
| I'm going to say bam. | ||
| Titties. | ||
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That's amazing. | |
| I really got into a big, long stretch of being fascinated with Native American history from a book somebody recommended to me called Empire of the Summer Moon about the Comanche. | ||
| And it's really like why Texas is the way Texas is. | ||
| Texas is the way Texas is, mostly, because they fought off the fucking Comanches. | ||
| Yeah, the people that had to go... | ||
| Mexico was so sneaky. | ||
| Mexico was telling white people to move to Texas. | ||
| They're like, hey, my friend, it's a good place. | ||
| They tricked these people into moving into Texas because it was a buffer between them and the Comanche. | ||
| The Comanche were the fucking wildest, most ruthless band of Indians and the most successful out of all the West. | ||
| It took hundreds of years to conquer them. | ||
| They're the reason why people didn't make it all the way to California sooner. | ||
| When they would go through the plains, the Comanches would fuck them up. | ||
| That book is fascinating. | ||
| It changed my perspective of what happened in the West. | ||
| You realize that there were some people that came over here from somewhere in the neighborhood of between 11,000 and 5,000 BC. They made it across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia into America. | ||
| They were basically the same kind of people that lived in Siberia. | ||
| And they were Stone Age when they got here. | ||
| They weren't even on horseback. | ||
| And they lived that way for thousands and thousands and thousands of years exactly the same way. | ||
| And it wasn't until the 1600s they started riding horses. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| And then they started dominating motherfuckers. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| It was like this giant shift in who they were. | ||
| Before they were like really unsuccessful in war. | ||
| They had no history. | ||
| They had no songs. | ||
| They had no stories. | ||
| Very little artwork. | ||
| All they did is like eat rats and squirrels and whatever they could kill and barely scratched by and stayed alive. | ||
| But they figured out how to ride horses first. | ||
| They figured out how to control horses better, and they figured out how to steal other people's horses because life was so hard. | ||
| It was so scratch and clawed that they were ruthless. | ||
| So once they got horses, they were just these wild little scrappy motherfuckers who would run these horses around and kill everybody. | ||
| And they figured out how to shoot off horses, and the white people didn't know how to do that yet. | ||
| The white people would get off the horses and go, Let's line up. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait, wait. | |
| We gotta get up. | ||
| You stand there, and then I'm three. | ||
| They were shooting like an arrow a second. | ||
| They were like, bing, bing, bing, bing. | ||
| Running on the horses, fucking these dudes up. | ||
| And so no one, until they figured out how to make a revolver, until they figured out a way to get a gun that shoots more than once, because those muskets weren't cutting it. | ||
| They just kept getting fucked up. | ||
| That's Texas. | ||
| When was the revolver birthed? | ||
| It was all during that time. | ||
| The Texas Rangers were the first to incorporate the revolver against the Comanche. | ||
| The Texas Rangers became the Texas Rangers because of this fucking unbelievably ruthless tribe of Indians that dominated the area. | ||
| So these dudes, instead of being like regular soldiers, adopted the way of the Comanche. | ||
| They wore buckskin clothes. | ||
| They slept without fires. | ||
| The Texas Rangers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They were fucking savages. | ||
| They out-savaged the Comanches. | ||
| A lot of the FBI agents that were commissioned to find the killers in the Osage murders, they were ex-Texas Rangers. | ||
| Plus, it's an amazing Chuck Norris TV show. | ||
|
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What the heck? | |
| What? | ||
| Lonesome Dove? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| You ever get into Lonesome Dove? | ||
| No, I've never gotten into Lonesome Dove. | ||
| It's just an incredible book. | ||
| I mean, about two retired Texas Rangers, but it's just like a classic Western novel. | ||
| I actually have it on audiobook. | ||
| I just haven't gotten around to it. | ||
| I will, once I've watched all the Texas Rangers with Chuck Norris again. | ||
| Wait, do we have any Deadwood fans in the house here? | ||
| Anybody? | ||
| Deadwood bothered me because they swore so much. | ||
| They swore so much. | ||
| I was like, that's not real. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| That's not how they talk back then. | ||
| It's got a theatrical element. | ||
| It's a little like Shakespearean in a way, but... | ||
| Yeah, but it was... | ||
| Oh, thank you. | ||
|
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Thanks for looking out. | |
| It made me just checking in. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| I'm supposed to drink slowly. | ||
| You'll be fine. | ||
| It's just your daddy. | ||
| I'm going to drink in a month. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
|
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He's my good friend. | |
| I'm your friend, too. | ||
| Because we're on the Joe Rogan podcast and I don't want to be a fucking dickhead. | ||
| Listen, you're not going to be. | ||
| But don't hinder yourself either. | ||
| Well, I haven't drank in a month. | ||
| I'm sensitive. | ||
| You look fine. | ||
| Everything's going great. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Everything's fine. | ||
| She's back. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Are you not drinking on purpose? | ||
| Just give yourself a little cleanse? | ||
| No, I did my Saraset therapy. | ||
| And this is like my months up. | ||
| I can start living again. | ||
| But my brain's in a good place. | ||
| No life without alcohol. | ||
| This is good alcohol. | ||
| Let me tell you, it's been really hard not to drink this month. | ||
|
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I'm sure. | |
| Let's be quite clear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they said because of coronavirus, alcohol consumption was up. | ||
| And then because of these riots and all this, I'm sure it's up again another notch. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The looting and the riots and people breaking into people's homes and shit. | ||
| But yeah, vulnerable people just slammed every stop of the way. | ||
| Well, we got to get through this as a race, I think, having a big moment. | ||
| Like, if we need a correction, we definitely need a correction. | ||
| We still do. | ||
| We need so many corrections, right? | ||
| We need a correction in terms of our thought on war, our thought on international conflict, the way we treat each other. | ||
| We need corrections on all that, but it takes like a big event sometimes. | ||
|
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This is it? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, A complete restructuring of how we view each other. | ||
| But you also have to be careful of bad players. | ||
| There's a lot of bad actors in these things. | ||
| No, that's the scary part. | ||
| They want to take advantage of people, and they want people to comply with their ideology, and they try to push things and say, if you don't go along with this, we know where you stand, we know where you are, you're on the other side. | ||
| You get forced into some weird compliance. | ||
| You've got to be real careful about that because, again, it's sort of the same thing you see with bad cops. | ||
| When people have power over people, even if it's just psychic power, when people have power over people, they abuse it. | ||
| Well, having a revolution after revolution, you look at the French Revolution or something like that, you know, they tear it down in the name of liberty and then they're just... | ||
| Killing people left and right. | ||
| So it's, you know, there's a pattern that we can examine. | ||
| But I think it's important to not, you know, obviously these events are catalyzing, but what we need to take from the event is that we don't need an event. | ||
| We have to integrate this stuff. | ||
| Well, I think we need an event, like what we had, along with accountability. | ||
| And this is the strange thing about the culture we're living in. | ||
| A 17-year-old girl was there when George Floyd died. | ||
| So a 17-year-old girl's cell phone camera changed the world. | ||
| That's real. | ||
| So this poor little girl has to deal with, imagine being a 17-year-old black girl watching a man get a knee put on his chest while he's asking, please let me up, please I can't breathe. | ||
| And you know that guy died and you filmed it and your video gets uploaded and the world just explodes. | ||
| There are fucking, there's protests in Tokyo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Protesting Berlin. | ||
| People are all over the world protesting New Zealand. | ||
| Our friend Stylebender was in one. | ||
| In New Zealand. | ||
| On the other side of the planet Earth. | ||
| People aren't asleep anymore. | ||
| Not asleep anymore. | ||
| Well, I mean, some people, yeah. | ||
| But she had a great response, too. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because people came after her and said, why didn't you do more in that moment? | ||
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I didn't know that. | |
| And she had a really cogent and wonderful response about... | ||
| You know, just contextualizing it. | ||
| Listen, man, people just, there's too many people. | ||
| If you say, people say this or people say that, people tell you to eat your foot. | ||
| You know, they'll tell you. | ||
| You have to eat your foot if you want to be on this gang. | ||
|
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People are crazy. | |
| The Trump thing with the drinking bleach or whatever, people did that. | ||
| No, no, they didn't. | ||
| Two morons drank the wrong form of hydrochloroquine that is actually a pond cleaner. | ||
| It's for fucking koi ponds. | ||
| These dipshits had it in their garage and they're like, this is it, this is chloroquine. | ||
| Did they die? | ||
| One guy died. | ||
| And there's a problem. | ||
| One guy looks great. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Put your tinfoil hat on. | ||
| That's not funny. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| They were big-time Democrats. | ||
| That's why it doesn't make sense. | ||
| And one of them was a Democrat candidate contributor, I believe. | ||
| Make sure that's right. | ||
| I don't want to get sued. | ||
| And people were like, wait, you guys are just... | ||
| You know, you're not supposed to do that. | ||
| Like, you just think you magically had this stuff laying around. | ||
| Yeah, how dumb, though? | ||
| But I wasn't talking about the hydroxychloroquine. | ||
| The problem is it's just a random thing where it sounds the same and it's hydroxychloroquine versus some other kind of chloroquine. | ||
| You sure there wasn't some, like, agenda here? | ||
| That just seems like... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I don't want to... | ||
| I'm getting confused, though. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| I don't want to disrespect the dead slash almost dead. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Yeah, it could be somebody killed somebody. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| Lots of weird things happen. | ||
| I don't know what the truth is anymore. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| But why would a person who's like a staunch Democrat listen to anything that Trump has to say about taking a medication? | ||
| You'd be like... | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| I know nothing about that. | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| I'm taking heroin. | ||
| He's an idiot. | ||
| Sidebar. | ||
| A good friend of ours, per the Trump Bible photo, our friend said, Trump holds a Bible like a guitar player who doesn't know how to play guitar. | ||
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I said he held it like a dirty diaper. | |
| I said it was like a dirty diaper. | ||
| Like, what do I do with this? | ||
| Get this fucking thing out of here. | ||
|
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It's fucking awful. | |
| But what a stupid fucking... | ||
| He did that on purpose. | ||
| Like, he decided to go do this as a press, like, some sort of publicity... | ||
| Man, this propaganda shit is... | ||
| That's the dumbest publicity opportunity ever. | ||
| Do you know that one of the members of the military stepped down, a military advisor? | ||
| Who's the guy that stepped down? | ||
| There was a guy that stepped down today. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Different guy. | ||
| Stepped down because of that stunt. | ||
| Because of that publicity stunt. | ||
| He stepped down because he said that the abusive use of force that they used to clear out that square so Trump could come in for that photo op. | ||
| He's like, I can't be a part of it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what we need. | ||
| That's what we need. | ||
| We need videos. | ||
| We need accountability. | ||
| And that video, whether he knows it or not, is evidence. | ||
| Because, look, we know there's a fucking protest there. | ||
| Did they all go away and shut up because you're awesome? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You did something. | ||
| You did something to people that were peacefully protesting. | ||
| And it's even scary that maybe he doesn't even know. | ||
| There was some shit that I tweeted today, too, where it's been proven that they used a certain type of tear gas that you're not supposed to use on people. | ||
| No, I didn't know that. | ||
| Here, I'll pull it up while Jamie's doing that. | ||
| To me, he's going to be like a folk legend, Donald Trump. | ||
| He's like the Paul Bunyan of narcissism. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's so far beyond what is understandable from a human. | ||
| He's like a superhero of narcissism. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| There's a guy who resigned. | ||
| He resigned today because of the way Trump cleared out that plaza. | ||
| I was reading it today on the Google News. | ||
| The gig. | ||
| These videos are there, right? | ||
| You can't do that to people. | ||
| And why are they doing that to people? | ||
| They're doing that to people because they shouldn't be cops. | ||
| Okay, I have a question. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It happened just today. | ||
| Military advisor resigns. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Photo op. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Above that. | ||
| Above that. | ||
| Two days ago. | ||
| That's two days ago, though. | ||
| That's it though, Jamie. | ||
| I know, but this isn't... | ||
| He didn't resign. | ||
| Okay, in my Google News Feed, it showed up today. | ||
| For whatever reason. | ||
| Sometimes you get a Google News Feed story from like seven months ago. | ||
| James Miller resigns from Pentagon Slams. | ||
| But go back to that article. | ||
| Why did you... | ||
| Because it's doing a pop-up thing on it. | ||
| Oh, you can't get out of there? | ||
| Trying to get a better one. | ||
|
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Jamie! | |
| Jamie! | ||
| Jamie did mention you guys were talking about a drum set. | ||
| I don't know if he said that to you. | ||
| Right when we get here, Ben's like, you should have a drum set. | ||
| He said, why don't you have a drum set? | ||
| I'm like, why would I have a drum set? | ||
| And he was like, people want to play the drums. | ||
| He's like, what if Jamie wants to play the drums? | ||
| People want to play the drums? | ||
| Look, I made it clear of my intentions. | ||
| I'm like, if Jamie wanted to play the drums, he would just get a drum set and bring it here. | ||
| So really, it's on you, Jamie. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I was trying to read. | ||
| Too many things going on. | ||
| I'm trying to get me to look at three different things at once. | ||
|
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I'm sorry. | |
| You're on your own here, but I support one. | ||
| So this is it. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| This is it. | ||
| So James Miller Jr. who served as the U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for policy from 2012 to 2014 recalled that he swore an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and to bear truth and faith. | ||
| An allegiance to the same, similar to what the defense secretary had done before he took office on Monday, June 1st, 2020. I believe you violated that oath, Miller wrote to Esper. | ||
| Miller's reasoning centered on President Donald J. Trump's visit Monday to St. John's Church in Washington, D.C., where police cleared peaceful protesters with tear gas. | ||
| So he could pose with a Bible for photographs. | ||
| That defines 2020, that this was an idea that was not only just throwing up the flagpole, but they're like, fuck yeah, let's do it. | ||
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Wait, I'm sorry, I feel really dumb right now, but what was the, like, was there like a quote under the Bible? | |
| Like, was it just him or the Bible, or did he have something to say? | ||
|
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Nothing to say? | |
| He didn't say anything. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| This is what happened. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| There's a lot going on. | ||
| One of the things that's going on is that they lit this church on fire, okay? | ||
| And another thing that's going on is that someone posted that they lit the church on fire, and then CNN's Brian Stelter, is that how do you say his name? | ||
| I don't know how to say Stelter. | ||
| This is one of the fellows on CNN, this adorable fellow on CNN, was tweeting that there's no fire. | ||
| There's no evidence, there's no story that there's a fire. | ||
| This is what I'm talking about. | ||
| And then the video comes out of the fire, and then he deletes all those tweets. | ||
| So it's Trump... | ||
| It's also like a jab at CNN. Like, see, you fucking idiots. | ||
| You are fake news. | ||
| You said there's no fire. | ||
| This place burnt down, and I'm going to go stand in front of it, and I'm going to hold up a Bible. | ||
| Yeah, and that's what he's fighting about. | ||
| There's a lot of ego shit going on with that. | ||
| That's why he decided to stand in front of that church holding that Bible. | ||
| It was also that he's in a dogfight right now when it comes to his constituents, when it comes to the idea of a re-election, when it comes to the fact that everything keeps falling apart. | ||
| He's had the worst set of circumstances, whether he brought it on or not. | ||
| COVID, George Floyd, the fires, the riots. | ||
| He couldn't have predicted any of this, the looting. | ||
| It's madness, right? | ||
| Somebody's got to love me. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| We're with Jesus! | ||
| This is where we're at. | ||
| This is where we're at. | ||
| Sinking shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What you said about someone playing a musical instrument? | ||
| Is that what you said? | ||
| That it looked like someone... | ||
| Who doesn't know how to play guitar is holding a guitar. | ||
| Pool is another example of that. | ||
| Like when you see a guy in a movie that's supposed to know how to play pool and you see him like fucking hold the pool stick all stupid. | ||
| That's not how it goes. | ||
| That's with fake violinists when people play fake violin. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| How'd I look with the pool stick? | ||
| You look good. | ||
| It's alright. | ||
|
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It's alright. | |
| We were playing pool earlier. | ||
| Joe schooled us. | ||
| He put on the glove for the record. | ||
| He wore the glove. | ||
| Hold the book. | ||
| Like a guy who reads books. | ||
| Then you can open it. | ||
| Hold on while I hold this blade. | ||
| Cynical theories. | ||
| This is how you hold the book. | ||
| Let him do the book thing. | ||
| But if I'm holding the book like this... | ||
| It was upside down. | ||
|
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That's it! | |
| That's it! | ||
| Can someone... | ||
|
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I have definitely not re-read this book post. | |
| Book, please! | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I buy it. | ||
| I buy it. | ||
| He loves that book. | ||
| Or you're dabbing. | ||
| Joe loves that book. | ||
| You're dabbing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| This is the Bible. | ||
| It will never be ever, ever forgotten. | ||
| It's written all over the world in many, many ways. | ||
| An amazing, amazing, amazing book. | ||
| So special, so important. | ||
| The thing about the whole narcissism thing is it's terrifying. | ||
| I'm terrified of that man. | ||
| He scares the fuck out of me. | ||
| I want to shave his head and give him mushrooms. | ||
| That's what I want to do. | ||
|
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Do it. | |
| I dare you. | ||
| I wish I could. | ||
| You probably can. | ||
| I wish you would listen. | ||
| You're king of Spotify now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm a jester. | ||
| Don't rule Spotify. | ||
| I'm just a minor jester. | ||
| I'm second to Bill Simmons over there, I think. | ||
| There's no worries. | ||
| Just give him mushrooms. | ||
| Just one fucking really good solid dose. | ||
| Is that your preferred psychedelic? | ||
| It's a good one. | ||
| My preferred one is probably marijuana. | ||
| I think marijuana is a psychedelic. | ||
| I just think it's a daily-use psychedelic. | ||
| If you did mushrooms every day, you can't talk to anybody. | ||
| You'd be useless. | ||
|
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False. | |
| I beg to differ. | ||
| Micro-dose. | ||
| I'm talking about getting blitzed. | ||
| You have a big chest of mushrooms? | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| I have some, no. | ||
|
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Woo! | |
| What are we doing later? | ||
| Did I tell you guys about when I... So I was quarantined with my parents for a month. | ||
| Holla. | ||
| So right after I saw you, Jill, when I was here last with Gary, like two days later I went on tour. | ||
| Tour got canceled. | ||
| I was in New York. | ||
| Drove down to my parents' house and then things were getting weird and got weirder and weirder. | ||
| And then I was there for a month with my parents. | ||
| And I messed up big time because I took acid one day when I was there. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| You mean you made the right choice? | ||
| No, I thought they were going to be gone. | ||
| And then I had a friend with me. | ||
| My friend Jose was there, one of my buds from childhood. | ||
| Did Jose bring the acid? | ||
| No, I brought the acid. | ||
| And I was originally like, let's take a whole tab. | ||
| And he's like, let's go half. | ||
| And honest to God. | ||
| Good move, Jose. | ||
| Powerful Jose. | ||
| Well, we both cut it in half. | ||
| We both took a tab. | ||
| And then like 15 minutes later, my mom walked in the door. | ||
| I'm 35 years old. | ||
| And then I was like... | ||
| And I was like, oh, no, no, no. | ||
|
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Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. | |
| Because there's what we got all day. | ||
| And she's like, my mom calls me Louis. | ||
| God bless her. | ||
| I love my mom so much. | ||
| She's like, she calls me Lumi. | ||
|
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Lumi, what are you doing? | |
| And I was like, oh, I got to tell her. | ||
| And so I... But it should be noted, not the first time you've been on Psychedelics, myself included, in front of your mom. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Well, this is different. | ||
|
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She... | |
| This is... | ||
| I respect my parents so much. | ||
| And I don't want to get too personal, but one of my uncles OD'd on PCP when my mom was a kid. | ||
| So she has like a... | ||
| She's got a thing. | ||
| Mushrooms to her are fine because they're like from the earth. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So she got really mad at me. | ||
| Because someone gave it to me. | ||
| Someone I trust. | ||
| But she was like... | ||
|
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She was... | |
| Terrified of me. | ||
| And I was, too. | ||
|
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Of you? | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because... | ||
| She got into that Manson propaganda, huh? | ||
| I mean, I was white as a sheet. | ||
| And I did not look good. | ||
| And it was hardcore tripping. | ||
| Like, it wasn't a little bit. | ||
| I went deep. | ||
| But I was also so aware that my mom was terrified. | ||
| Like, I went to check on her when I was, like, really tripping balls. | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| And she was curled up on her bed with the dogs and she was looking at me and I looked at her and I was like, I'm gonna go! | ||
| And I just went back to my room and then I had like the giggle part where I just couldn't stop laughing. | ||
| But at one point I do want to share this and I might get in trouble. | ||
| No, fuck it. | ||
|
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Jose... | |
| I was trying to get some sense of normalcy, and I was trying to eat food, and I put on Planet Earth, which was very healing at that time, of just being in a total place. | ||
| And Jose needed to get sick. | ||
| And at that same time... | ||
| Not so powerful, Jose. | ||
| At the same time, I was watching... | ||
| I swear to God, I swear to God, true story. | ||
| Like, Jose is in the bathroom, like... | ||
|
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At that same moment, there were grizzly bears going, and I was just like, is anybody watching this? | |
| That's me! | ||
| And it was just the best moment ever. | ||
|
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I felt so bad. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| You know who took the best grizzly bear footage ever? | ||
| That Timothy Treadwell guy, that crazy guy. | ||
| Was that the grizzly man thing? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That guy took the best grizzly footage. | ||
| He paid the price. | ||
| Well, he fucked up, for sure. | ||
| But along with... | ||
|
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He gave us something. | |
| I mean, this is going to be a real cynical take on this. | ||
| But you've got to understand, this is all coming from love. | ||
| That guy... | ||
| Even though he died getting killed by Grizzlies in a hilarious, the best unintentionally hilarious documentary ever. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Grizzly Man is so funny. | ||
| I'm scared to watch that. | ||
| I can't watch it. | ||
| I can't watch it. | ||
| They don't play it for you. | ||
| They don't play it for you. | ||
| There's no tape. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No, no, they don't play it. | ||
|
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Well, there is a tape. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Werner Herzog got the tape and he destroyed it. | ||
| He did not want it to be out there for it to be murder porn for people. | ||
| He said it was horrible. | ||
| And Werner Herzog, you know, I mean, he knows the fuck he's doing. | ||
| He's made some of the most amazing documentaries of all time, right? | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| But that, I guarantee you, he made that thing funny on purpose. | ||
| There's no way he didn't. | ||
| The timing in it is so good. | ||
| There's a sheriff. | ||
| There's a sheriff at one point in time after the guy dies. | ||
| The sheriff, first of all, looks like a sheriff in a fucking Quentin Tarantino movie, right? | ||
| He just looks like he's total, total Alaska sheriff. | ||
| He looks right in the camera and goes, I thought he was retarded! | ||
| And he's like, what? | ||
| When they're talking about picking garbage bags of this guy off of the shore and seeing the big bear feasting on his ribcage. | ||
| They show that? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They talk about it. | ||
| He talks about how he flew over in his plane and noticed the ribs poking out and saw the bear rummaging in his chest cavity. | ||
| It is a crazy documentary. | ||
| I thought that they played as sound. | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| There's no sound. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's a version of it online, but it's fake. | ||
| I thought that too. | ||
|
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I thought that too. | |
| That's why I never watched it. | ||
| You gotta trust me. | ||
| I've seen it nine times. | ||
|
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Jesus! | |
| I'm not exaggerating. | ||
| That and Zoolander? | ||
| It might be like 13 times. | ||
| No, Texas Ranger. | ||
| We got Norris. | ||
| Then we hit the Grizzly Man. | ||
| There's time. | ||
| We're gonna go back for Zoolander. | ||
| But really, here's the thing. | ||
| There's something in this movie about acceptance. | ||
| There's something about tolerance. | ||
| He was gay. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And I'm 99,000% positive that he's gay. | ||
| But he was pretending he wasn't. | ||
| So this guy's talking like this, and he's walking through the woods going, I wish I had a girlfriend, but I don't. | ||
| Girls just don't like me, I don't know why. | ||
| Maybe because you live with monsters in a house made out of cloth. | ||
|
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Is this like a Joe Exotica parody kind of thing we're doing here? | |
| No, he's got like, he's like this guy that's like, he's got a bandana on. | ||
| It's like, I'm out of here protecting these bears. | ||
| These bears didn't even know he was alive. | ||
| They didn't give a fuck about him. | ||
| Not only that, like the wildlife management of Alaska is fantastic. | ||
| Like they know exactly how many bears they are. | ||
| They got it all covered. | ||
| You know, I just watched the Joe Exotic thing and in regards to that, there's like this weird megalomania with like, Convincing yourself that you have this control over these wild beasts. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| It's very very similar. | ||
| I had these moments where it was really like really first of all they're all bunch of narcissists and they're crazy but I felt really sad for Joe Exotic because it was like what would have happened if maybe he were truly accepted For who he was when he was a kid and loved by his father, like would he have gone to these extremes with his life? | ||
| No, but then we wouldn't have enjoyed that fucking amazing show. | ||
| This is my whole point about Grizzly Man. | ||
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Even though that guy lived this fucked up- It's about your entertainment! | |
| Even though this guy lived this fucked up tortured life, ultimately what was created was amazing and it was entertaining for millions of people. | ||
| It gave millions of people a great feeling watching Grizzly Man and watching Joe Exotic. | ||
| We said about art down the line. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Beethoven, that was a fucked up dude. | ||
| But we're still listening to his shit. | ||
| But this guy's life was like an art project. | ||
| This Timothy Treadwell's life was like an art project. | ||
| He's literally holding a camcorder, walking through this bear corridor where these enormous grizzly bears are. | ||
| And he's like, I wish I could find a girlfriend, but I can't. | ||
| If I was gay, it would be easy. | ||
| This is what he says. | ||
| I just go to a rest stop. | ||
| He said that. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But I'm not gay, so... | ||
| He's like, who? | ||
|
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Bro. | |
| Gay? | ||
| Gay? | ||
| That guy needed mushrooms, but then we wouldn't have gotten Grizzly Man. | ||
| Joe, is this how we heal the world? | ||
| We need to do extreme psychedelic dispensing. | ||
| It sounds preposterous, but everything I say sounds preposterous, so it's okay. | ||
| I'm a preposterous person. | ||
| Sort of true. | ||
| But I believe that if mushrooms were decriminalized and people were allowed to use them, and in fact, decriminalized is probably better. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because I don't think anybody should sell mushrooms. | ||
| Because I think mushrooms are so sacred, you should never profit off of them. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think decriminalizing is enough, just so that no one can ever bring, but you can't sell it. | ||
| Just give it away to people, or if you're selling it, you should sell it for just Just enough to take care of the soil and feed. | ||
| You should make your money some other way. | ||
| And I think that for you, for people. | ||
| I mean, there's an amazing business that could be had through selling mushrooms. | ||
| I'm not opposed to it. | ||
| Look, I'll flip-flop on this back and forth. | ||
| But I think if I was giving someone advice, if I said, could you make it without doing that? | ||
| Could you make it without selling it? | ||
| I would say, okay, don't sell it. | ||
| Just give it away. | ||
| Just give it away and make deals with people. | ||
| If they want to give you tomatoes that they grew, take that and give them mushrooms. | ||
| It doesn't seem like something that should be tainted by the darkness of the human soul. | ||
| I feel like there's power in money, just like there's power in power. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| Wanting to sell more. | ||
| Are you sure you don't need any mushrooms, Ben? | ||
| You don't want that energy. | ||
| You never want anybody pushing it on you. | ||
| You should do mushrooms because it's calling you. | ||
| I don't think anybody should ever... | ||
| It just makes me think about music because everything makes me think about music usually. | ||
| But when you're talking about this... | ||
| Well, how do we manage the sale of this, the presence in our society? | ||
| We need it. | ||
| We're going to do it anyway, always. | ||
| Human behavior, boom. | ||
| There's a price tag. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Things are getting weird, and it's a constant conversation. | ||
| I think you just have ethical people that work with you, so you don't have to think about that shit. | ||
| Just think about your art. | ||
| But it's inescapable, because it's in the system, right? | ||
| And the system is going to react to it, respond to it. | ||
| Consumers are going to... | ||
| React in their way. | ||
| And if you can, I guess, keep yourself completely apart from consumer opinion, then you can, is that what you're saying? | ||
| Kind of like maintain a purity? | ||
| I don't think that's ever really possible. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| But I think you can have an ethic in your head, like you can have an operating strategy in your head. | ||
| You're going to avoid as much of that as possible and just sort of like, what does it take to be the best artist you could be? | ||
| The problem with that is sometimes it takes for you to be a fuck up. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| I don't know if I buy that. | ||
| I don't know if I buy it either. | ||
| We don't have to buy it. | ||
| That's consumerism. | ||
| It's not for sale. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Some of my favorite artists, like I give this an example so many times, but I have to use it. | ||
| My great friend Joey Diaz. | ||
| He's one of my favorite people. | ||
| Love that dude. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Every time I'm with him, every time I perform with him, I work with him, every time I hang out with him, I always feel like I'm blessed. | ||
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Like, I'm not joking. | |
| That's a magical thing. | ||
| It's so rare. | ||
| He's been my friend for I'll tear up. | ||
| He's been my friend for like 23 years. | ||
| But you don't get a Joey Diaz without pain. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| You can't have a kid who lives in a gated community, who has tutors to teach him how to play piano, and who's on the soccer team. | ||
| You don't get a Joey Diaz. | ||
| You know how Joey Diaz found his mother? | ||
| He was on acid, and she was dead, and he was 13. He found her when he was on acid. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| She was dead on the kitchen floor when he was 13. Joey Diaz has gone through some shit. | ||
| And on the other end, he comes out this beautiful creation of the universe. | ||
| You don't get diamonds unless you have pressure. | ||
| I concur. | ||
| You need pressure. | ||
| But those are uncontrollable things. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The things that are controllable, sorry. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, some artists, like, I will never be as funny as Joey Diaz. | ||
| It's literally not possible. | ||
| I don't think anybody's funnier than him. | ||
| I think he hits these moments that are funnier than any- I've seen comedy for- I've been a professional comedian for like 32 years. | ||
| Never seen anybody funnier. | ||
| I've seen them all. | ||
| I've seen Kinnison live. | ||
| I saw Bill Hicks live. | ||
| I've seen Chris Rock. | ||
| I've worked with Chappelle. | ||
| I've seen Chappelle live a hundred times. | ||
| I've worked with Pryor. | ||
| I had a chance to work with somebody. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yes! | ||
| What's that story? | ||
| Late in his career when he was actually dying. | ||
| And he would go on stage. | ||
| They would carry him to the stage. | ||
| I went on after Pryor. | ||
| They would carry him to the stage? | ||
| Carry him to the stage. | ||
| My friend Chewy, who's an amazing musician, he used to be the doorman at the comedy store, he and this guy Dave would carry, who's Marilyn Martinez's husband, who's a hilarious comedian, would carry Richard Pryor to the chair, and they'd put him in the chair, and they would crank up the volume like this. | ||
|
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Like, shh! | |
| Because he's so far gone. | ||
| That's what it was like. | ||
| That was a photo of him. | ||
| If you saw him, you saw me. | ||
| Because when he would go on stage, Mitzi would always put me on afterwards. | ||
| Because Mitzi knew it was basically an impossible task. | ||
| It was an impossible task, first of all, for some 27-year-old dipshit to go on after the greatest comedian of all time ever, right? | ||
| No matter what I did, I was failed. | ||
| But the fact that everybody got to see him when they knew he was rapidly deteriorating, it wasn't going to get better, and he just wanted to be out there with his fans, and people loved him so much. | ||
| And I would go on stage, and it was like I was at a funeral trying to tell jokes. | ||
| It was so bad. | ||
| It was so bad. | ||
| It felt so bad. | ||
| First of all, it felt bad because the first time I ever really understood what comedy was, I saw Live on the Sunset Strip in a movie theater. | ||
| My parents took me when I was like 15. And we were in the audience, and I remember looking around at all these people falling out of their chairs laughing. | ||
| And I remember I was laughing so hard. | ||
| I was like, how is this guy doing this by just talking? | ||
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Right. | |
| How is he doing this? | ||
| So for me to be able to work with that guy, to do all these shows with that guy... | ||
| No one's funnier than Joey Diaz. | ||
| No one. | ||
| All these people I work with. | ||
| The greats. | ||
| I've seen them all. | ||
| Joey Diaz hits these highs. | ||
| There's a new vibration. | ||
| He pops through to some new level. | ||
| He might not be the best joke writer of all time. | ||
| He might not have the most clever thing to say that makes you go, wow. | ||
| But he hits you with some fucking punch lines that are harder than anybody's ever... | ||
| He's the Ernie Shavers of punch lines. | ||
| He just drops bombs on you. | ||
| You're like, what the fuck? | ||
| You know, I think that... | ||
| Who's Ernie Shavers? | ||
|
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Sorry. | |
| Ernie Shavers was a very famous heavyweight boxer in the 1970s that was known for his punching power. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| No, it's okay. | ||
| No, it's okay. | ||
| I'm glad you asked. | ||
| I did a Dennis Miller on you. | ||
| I brought up something. | ||
| Yeah, you did. | ||
| I totally did. | ||
| But for fight fans, they would know exactly what I'm talking about. | ||
| He's like the Francis Ngannou of stand-up comics. | ||
| That's a good way to put it. | ||
| Francis Ngannou is a top UFC contender. | ||
| That's more contemporary. | ||
| Also, you want to make a list? | ||
| Let's make a list. | ||
| Francis Ngannou is the single most powerful combat sport athlete I've ever seen. | ||
| Francis. | ||
| Pull up a photo of Francis, just so he gets an understanding of what the fuck he's writing down. | ||
| Francis Ngannou is absolutely the scariest heavyweight to ever compete in the UFC. I think he's 6'6", 260 pounds, freak athlete who grew up working in the sand mines. | ||
| He dug sand in Africa. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Is it not contemporary? | ||
| Was he from Cameroon? | ||
| Oh, I spelled that wrong. | ||
| See, find out where he was from. | ||
| He's an amazing athlete. | ||
| Like, terrifying. | ||
| Yeah, Cameroon. | ||
| 33, younger than us. | ||
| Terrifying athlete. | ||
| And he's younger than us. | ||
| I don't think that's correct. | ||
| Age, what is age? | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| What age does it say? | ||
| He's 33. Is that correct? | ||
| Stop shouting. | ||
| September 5th, S5. That's amazing, because I thought he was older than that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| He's fucking terrifying. | ||
| The thing about... | ||
| This is like a little backtrack. | ||
| You're talking about Diaz and suffering. | ||
| People that have had really intense things in their lives that they've overcome and grown from are the most incredible people on the planet. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I have empathy for folks that aren't able to do that. | ||
| But the thing is, it's like when you have this capacity to grow from... | ||
| Horrible things. | ||
| You have the capacity for wisdom and also comedy and also trying to live a peaceful, beautiful life. | ||
| And the thing is, life is fucked up. | ||
| We can't control what's coming at us, but you can control how you fucking deal with it and your accountability. | ||
| And I am with you on the front of people that inspire me on that level, that have been through things that I can't imagine but have come out in this... | ||
| Beautiful way that they express themselves with inspiration and comedy and music and acting or whatever, artistic, but, you know, not even art. | ||
| American music comes out of that. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| That's what that comes out of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, that comes out of a cultural experience. | ||
| You ever listen to that old Robert Johnson shit? | ||
| Yeah, fuck yeah. | ||
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That's crazy, right? | |
| It's incredible. | ||
| You listen to that and you go, wait a minute, when was this? | ||
| I think music, like comedy, they share this one thing. | ||
| You have to put the music or the comedy in the context of the time that it was created. | ||
| I'm a giant Lenny Bruce fan. | ||
| If you walk around this place, you see all these Lenny Bruce concert posters outside. | ||
| He was such a pioneer, too. | ||
| He was the. | ||
| He was the. | ||
| He's patient zero. | ||
| He's patient zero. | ||
| But if you listen to his stuff today, it might not be that funny. | ||
| Some of it's not that good in terms of how far things have gone. | ||
| If you watched Chappelle's latest special and then you try to watch Lenny Bruce, it'd be hard to watch Lenny Bruce. | ||
| But his timing and all that stuff, it's still there. | ||
| It's the context of it. | ||
| But for me, it's like, go back and listen to Robert Johnson and then just think, wait a minute, what year was this? | ||
| What year was this? | ||
| And what kind of music were people making? | ||
| This dude was just like this very free, haunting sound that Robert Johnson had. | ||
| I wish we could play it. | ||
| Jesus, I hope when we go to Spotify we can play some fucking music. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Just play some Robert Johnson. | ||
| Give them the shekels. | ||
| The great stuff. | ||
| Let them have the cash. | ||
| I just want to hear it. | ||
| I want to hear it. | ||
| I just don't want to get pulled. | ||
| He said shekels. | ||
| And it transcends time. | ||
| I have respect for my Jewish friends. | ||
| Thanks, brother. | ||
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Shekel. | |
| It's a great name for money. | ||
|
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It is. | |
| It sounds fun. | ||
| It feels good to say. | ||
| It sounds fun. | ||
| Give me them shekels, son. | ||
| Bad and schvitzing. | ||
| I'm all about the shekels. | ||
| Like, I'm all about the Benjamins. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
|
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Hey! | |
| Come on, double duty. | ||
| I get it. | ||
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I get it. | |
| That's a t-shirt. | ||
| I wonder how much Ben Franklin really did. | ||
| History is so interesting. | ||
| I was thinking about this today. | ||
| We need people to write shit down. | ||
| We have to trust that you're going to tell the truth. | ||
| And most people are full of shit. | ||
| So how does that work out? | ||
| Paul Revere never ran around going the British are coming. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| No, I did not know that. | ||
| I didn't know that either. | ||
| I found out two years ago. | ||
| Who told you the truth? | ||
| I was reading this whole story about what really happened, that Paul Revere wasn't really riding down the street with a horse saying the British are coming, the British are coming. | ||
| No, another dude did it and he was taking credit. | ||
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Son of a bitch. | |
| Yeah, he was taking credit for it. | ||
| Yeah, the thing is, I said this earlier, I don't know what's real or true anymore. | ||
| Even when we have the age of cell phones and people take videos, right now we have someone saying, hey, this is a tennis ball. | ||
| Another person saying, oh, no, it's purple. | ||
| And you're like, what? | ||
| What could be both? | ||
| Like, there's no comparison. | ||
| Oh, like that dress? | ||
| That black and white dress? | ||
| No, the bad example. | ||
| Oh yeah, the laurel. | ||
| What was that thing? | ||
| The thing is, you know, back to Donald Trump, like, there's just... | ||
| A complete lack of information of like, is this like one person saying this thing, the other person saying this thing, and I'm watching a video and you're telling me it's not true. | ||
| But how is it not true? | ||
| Because I'm watching it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm so fucking confused. | ||
| He's creating... | ||
| His own reality. | ||
| Well, he's not the only one. | ||
| There's a lot of people doing that. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's playing a game, okay? | ||
| And the game has already been established. | ||
| That game is be full of shit if it supports your cause. | ||
| The left does it as well as the right. | ||
| It's a human issue. | ||
| It's a partisan human issue. | ||
| And he's particularly shitty at it. | ||
| Do you know who I love? | ||
| And I think he buys into it. | ||
| I think that's a requisite, too, is that he has to believe his own bullshit. | ||
| You've got to be able to say when you've fucked up. | ||
| But you can say that with power. | ||
| Why is that not a thing? | ||
| Why can't they do that? | ||
| They don't do it. | ||
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I just want to say it right now. | |
| The Rock for president. | ||
| Step in. | ||
| I'd vote for The Rock. | ||
| I saw your Instagram. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| My brother, listen, you can do it. | ||
| I'll vote for you. | ||
| No one's going to fuck with you. | ||
| You are America, by the way. | ||
|
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Look at you. | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| Look at you, you beautiful son of a bitch. | ||
|
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He's America. | |
| I'm not familiar with your platform, but I will look into it. | ||
| I only met him in person two or three times, but he's so beautiful. | ||
|
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He's incredible. | |
| He's so big. | ||
| Remember that movie? | ||
| He's enormous. | ||
| Oh, you were? | ||
| When I moved to LA, I was like a PA on this movie, just like, you know, completely brainless. | ||
| And he was in the movie and he came in. | ||
| What movie was it, Ben? | ||
| And he's a super nice guy. | ||
| Legitimately super nice guy. | ||
| Incredibly ambitious. | ||
| He's the American dream. | ||
| Came out from poverty. | ||
| He epitomizes hard work. | ||
| And he's got a heart. | ||
| He clearly is a nice guy. | ||
| And he's a real man. | ||
| He's not some soy boy. | ||
| He's not some... | ||
| Is he single? | ||
| I find that insensitive. | ||
| He should be. | ||
| I drank soy. | ||
| You should feel that. | ||
| You should feel the pain. | ||
| You should drink raw buffalo milk mixed with blood. | ||
| No need. | ||
| Like a Comanche. | ||
| You're lact-hearted? | ||
| No, you gotta get it right from the udder. | ||
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To all the lactose intolerant juice out there. | |
| It's okay. | ||
| You can drink so you'll be alright. | ||
| Go easy on it, actually. | ||
| I don't drink it anymore. | ||
| I drink rice milk. | ||
| We gotta get you out there eating raw ducks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're gonna be fine. | ||
| Don't let this... | ||
| Get some liver in your diet. | ||
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This outdated masculinity take you down. | |
| I don't drink that anymore. | ||
| I drink rice. | ||
| It's definitely questionable, the health impacts you. | ||
| You ever seen The Rock's cheat days? | ||
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No. | |
| It's the most special thing you've ever seen. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Like he has a salad? | ||
| It's a staggering amount of food. | ||
| No, it's staggering. | ||
| Pancakes and waffles and cookies and brownies and ice cream. | ||
| I just want him to pick me up. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Pizzas. | ||
| This is him. | ||
| That's his meals. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| It's usually on a set. | ||
| You know, he's on a set. | ||
| Oh yeah, no bullshit. | ||
| So he has one day where he goes to war. | ||
| That man is a machine. | ||
| He's 14 feet tall. | ||
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Did you know that? | |
| Bro, he's so big it doesn't even make sense. | ||
| 14 feet. | ||
| But here's my thing. | ||
| This guy is the real deal. | ||
| He's an exceptional human. | ||
| He works really hard and he's really nice. | ||
| He stands for a lot of things that we can all appreciate. | ||
| He stands for hard work. | ||
| He stands for respect. | ||
| He's very complimentary of people. | ||
| He's very friendly. | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| He's a good person and he's enormous. | ||
| That's America! | ||
| He's America! | ||
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He's a goddamn bald eagle sitting on a machine gun! | |
| Is there like a major position of power right now, that person, that also has the capacity to have empathy? | ||
| Because that man clearly has empathy. | ||
| Yeah, The Rock does. | ||
| No, as a president, yeah. | ||
| Listen, I don't think he would become a politician. | ||
| I think we're done with politicians. | ||
| Trump already showed that a non-politician businessman is the host of a reality show can be the king of the world. | ||
| Okay, well now that we know that, let's get someone... | ||
| Killer Mike. | ||
| How about Killer Mike for president? | ||
| I would fucking vote for Killer Mike. | ||
| Killer Mike. | ||
| He said... | ||
| He could be president. | ||
| No bullshit. | ||
| Count me in. | ||
| I worship that man. | ||
| I think he's brilliant. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| By the way, Run the Jewels record came out yesterday. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I haven't heard the new shit, but I love their shit. | ||
| Mavis Staples sings on one of the songs. | ||
| Mavis is one of my favorite people, musicians on the planet. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Please check it out. | ||
| But he said, lost it, lost it, come back. | ||
| He referred to Donald Trump as... | ||
| The owner of a casino, like the casino operating owner is our president. | ||
| He's like, the owner of casinos. | ||
| I just like get sunk in. | ||
| I'm like, this guy's, he's a casino guy, hotel guy. | ||
| What did Tim Dillon call him? | ||
| Riverboat Casino. | ||
| What did he call him? | ||
| Riverboat Casino. | ||
| Have you ever seen Tim Dillon do Meghan McCain? | ||
| No. | ||
| Thank you, Jesus! | ||
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Another person I get to give a gift to! | |
| One of my favorite things in all the internet that anybody's ever done is one of my good friend, Tim Dillon. | ||
| He's a hilarious comedian. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He does this impression of Meghan McCain. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
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And please take it from the beginning. | |
| Take it from the beginning. | ||
| Wait, is this in the- Hold on. | ||
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Before my father died, I had a baby with him. | |
| It will be raised in captivity. | ||
| It'll be raised privately to be the greatest politician that has ever lived. | ||
| My name is Meghan McCain and I'm on a news show called The View. | ||
| And Donald Trump, that fucking riverboat casino captain is talking shit about my father again. | ||
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My father was tortured for a hundred years in this fucking country and he came back and he started seven wars because he's a gentleman. | |
| Fuck you, Trump. | ||
| I'm gonna wear my father's skin mask and I'm gonna primary Trump from the right. | ||
| Come on The View, bitch. | ||
| If you're that tough, come on The View. | ||
| You want an Alessandro Casio Cortes? | ||
| You want this shit? | ||
| You want to fuck these tits, Trump? | ||
| You want to fuck these tits? | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| You want to suck cock, but I won't fuck you because the only person I'll fuck is Daddy. | ||
| I'll fuck Daddy's corpse. | ||
| That is so fucked up. | ||
| A lot of different feelings. | ||
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I don't know what to say. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Who is that person? | ||
| It's Tim Dillon. | ||
| Tim Dillon. | ||
| Tim, looking good. | ||
| He's here with us tonight. | ||
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He's a gay fellow. | |
| He gets away with more things. | ||
| Is that a thing? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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He's hilarious. | |
| Alright. | ||
| Do you know who I love? | ||
| Andrew Schultz. | ||
| Oh, yes! | ||
| That guy's brilliant. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| He's informative, brilliant, hilarious, and just gets right to your guts. | ||
| Who's Andrew Schultz? | ||
| He's brilliant. | ||
| He's done the best pandemic comedy that anybody's done, for sure. | ||
| He does these videos for Instagram where he'll start the video, hey, turn your phone over sideways. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then he has this whole multimedia. | ||
| Way to control the situation. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. | ||
| He's got a multimedia presentation. | ||
| It's really a show, but it's with his stand-up style. | ||
| Really, really good. | ||
| Really smart. | ||
| He's figured out a way. | ||
| When's he going to get a show? | ||
| He's got to get a show soon. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| That guy should do exactly what he's doing. | ||
| Just do exactly what he's doing. | ||
| Keep making those internet things. | ||
| He's got more than one YouTube show. | ||
| He's got a YouTube show with Charlemagne that he does. | ||
| It's called Brilliant Idiots. | ||
| Then he's got the other one. | ||
| What is his other one? | ||
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Have you had him on the show? | |
| Yes, he's going to be on next week too. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| I love him. | ||
| He's a good friend. | ||
| Benny, you love it. | ||
| He does a thing on Central Park, Karen, that lady that freaked out and almost strangled her dog to death and lied about that guy. | ||
| I shared it with so many people. | ||
| If you wonder why black people are freaking out, this is real. | ||
| These are real people. | ||
| First of all, the guy who was using the dog treats, like, come on, man. | ||
| Like, I wish you were perfect. | ||
| I wish you were perfect and she was just crazy. | ||
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You know? | |
| Keep going. | ||
| He would, like, keep dog treats. | ||
| He tried to give her treats. | ||
| Her dog treats. | ||
| Dogs are not supposed to be off-leash. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Dogs go off leash and I believe he's a bird watcher. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| No! | ||
| Fact! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Bird watchers are really hardcore. | ||
| I got really into optics because I was, like, when I started hunting, I really got into binoculars. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I was trying to figure out why some binoculars were really expensive and what they used them for. | ||
| Bird watching is a big deal. | ||
| The people that are really into birds, like spotting birds, it's like there's some crazy- Bird nerd right here. | ||
| Are you a bird nerd? | ||
| Huge bird nerd. | ||
| Dude, there's an orgasmic quality when people find an owl that's hiding in a hole. | ||
| There he is! | ||
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There he is! | |
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| It might be tied to hunter-gatherer DNA or some shit. | ||
| I just love birds. | ||
| But it's the same feeling that you get when you catch a fish. | ||
| I also love fishing. | ||
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There you go. | |
| But you know that thing that you get? | ||
| There's a rush that you get when you catch a fish. | ||
| I think it's like hunter-gatherer shit. | ||
| It's like, I got one, I got one. | ||
| And then you see a bird, even if you're just seeing it with your binos, you're like, oh, there he is, there he is. | ||
| He's hiding. | ||
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Oh, look, look, look, look, look, look. | |
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's weird, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| But so that's why that dude is pissed off. | ||
| These fucking dipshit dogs that are supposed to be on leashes are running around. | ||
| Well, you know, she lost her dog and her job, so. | ||
| Well, that's fucked up. | ||
| Is it though? | ||
| Did you watch the video? | ||
| Yeah, she's fucked up. | ||
| She's fucked up. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But should she lose her dog? | ||
| The moment where she says, I'm going to tell him an African American is threatening my life. | ||
| And it was just so matter of fact and gross. | ||
| And in that moment... | ||
| Would you want that person working for you and with you? | ||
| No, I wouldn't. | ||
| But I don't know her, right? | ||
| So I don't know if she's redeemable. | ||
| I don't know what that was about. | ||
| I don't know if she had a panic attack because it was just her and that guy. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| You know what? | ||
| That's very generous and I appreciate that perspective. | ||
| You have to consider that a lot of people are very scared of conflict. | ||
| And when women are in the presence of a man confronting them in an angry way about something. | ||
| I don't care what race you are. | ||
| He wasn't angry. | ||
| He was so calm and gentle. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| He was genuinely... | ||
| But he was accusing her of not having a dog on the leash, right? | ||
| Yeah, and she didn't like being told what to do by a black person. | ||
| I think that's true. | ||
| I think that's certainly true. | ||
| But I also think, for sure, 100%, that was a conflict. | ||
| And during conflicts, people act irrationally. | ||
| They don't know what to do. | ||
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Sure. | |
| They get out of their own head, they fuck up. | ||
| It could be a clear example of just how she acts all the time, that she is always racist, and she always exaggerates anything that's happening and lies. | ||
| She posted a video after the fact and said, Andrew Schultz talks about this. | ||
| She said, I'm not racist. | ||
| I was afraid for my life. | ||
| That could be possible. | ||
| But that's racism, because you're afraid for your life by a gentle person who was like, hey, can you put your dog on a leash? | ||
| It could be. | ||
| It could be racism. | ||
| It could also be racism on top of conflict. | ||
| Maybe her racism would never show itself, but then in conflict she panics. | ||
| Some people panic during conflict. | ||
| And when you're looking at someone that's doing something awful in a crisis situation, like we've seen people hit people with, I was watching this video the other day, of this lady coming up to this guy on the street, and the only reason why I found this is because people kept saying, dude, is this you? | ||
| Did you hit this lady in the head with a 2x4? | ||
| Because there's this fucking lady in some Spanish neighborhood. | ||
| You're like, no, I sweep the knee. | ||
| All these people are yelling in Spanish. | ||
| They're yelling in Spanish. | ||
| And this lady has this big ass fucking stick. | ||
| And she walks up to this dude who looks exactly like me. | ||
| And he has a two by four. | ||
| And he says something in Spanish. | ||
| She doesn't listen. | ||
| And he bonks her in the head with this two by four. | ||
| And knocks her unconscious. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| So I swear to God, like five of my friends sent me this. | ||
| So she gets mad at him. | ||
| And she goes and picks up a stick. | ||
| Look, they're yelling at each other. | ||
| Give me some volume on this. | ||
| Where's you? | ||
| Yeah, where's Joe? | ||
| A little bit further. | ||
| Towards the fight. | ||
| Yeah, so it looks like they're in front. | ||
| Yeah, see, that's the guy in the white shirt, and they're talking shit to each other, this guy and this girl, which is just so crazy, right? | ||
| Go a little further ahead. | ||
| Oh, there it is, right here. | ||
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Oh, no! | |
| Oh, wow! | ||
| She comes up. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| It's pretty Jewish. | ||
| Those pants. | ||
| That guy has no tattoos. | ||
| He has no tattoos. | ||
| Oh, he has sleeves on though. | ||
| He looks exactly like me. | ||
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Is she knocked out? | |
| That might have been me. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| I might have taken Ambien and hit that lady over the head with a stick. | ||
| She does not look conscious. | ||
| She's not unconscious. | ||
| She's 100% unconscious. | ||
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He hit her in the head with a 2x4. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| I don't know what the context was, but she- go back again, watch. | ||
| Are you talking about conflict? | ||
| No, back up so you can see what's happening. | ||
| She walks up, she grabs a stick, and he's like, stop, get the fuck away from me. | ||
| So she starts coming towards him, and when she starts coming towards him, she's got this big ass fucking stick, and I don't speak Spanish. | ||
| Right in front of United Express. | ||
| Here it goes, look, she's coming at him full speed with this stick, and he's like, oh no, Jesus Christ, stop, stop. | ||
| He didn't really swing that hard either. | ||
| He just kind of gave a little bop. | ||
| That's all it takes. | ||
| I mean, most people are not very 2x4 resilient. | ||
| Every time I get hit with a 2x4, I just get right back up. | ||
| Dude, getting hit in the head with a 2x4 would suck. | ||
| That would suck. | ||
| That was so heavy. | ||
| I have to pee. | ||
| That was a situation of conflict and we can't assign any racial elements. | ||
| She certainly fucked up. | ||
| I'm not an apologist. | ||
| And she certainly lied, which is indicative of a character flaw. | ||
| It's not just that she tried to talk her way out of this. | ||
| She tried to be reasonable. | ||
| She wasn't even reasonable. | ||
| Just look how she was treating her dog, right? | ||
| She's treating her dog in a very horrible way, like basically holding it up, like choking the fucking thing. | ||
| Once she immediately identifies him as African-American on the phone, on the 911 call. | ||
| If you love your dog, you don't ever hang him. | ||
| You don't fucking... | ||
| Even if you pull on the leash, you don't... | ||
| Like, hey, get over here. | ||
| Yeah, maybe she just doesn't know how to use a leash. | ||
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You don't fucking... | |
| You don't hold him up in the air like... | ||
| It's bizarre, but I also think that's indicative of someone who's going through a panic attack. | ||
| She just wants to control that dog. | ||
| She literally doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| You know, she's just, shut the fuck up! | ||
| And she's 100% wrong. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I'm not excusing her. | ||
| But I'm saying, when you look at what it really is, it's a woman who is alone with a man, and the man is catching her doing some shit she's not supposed to do. | ||
| And he's got a camera on her, right? | ||
| So all those things freak people out. | ||
| A lot of factors. | ||
| There's a lot of things going on there. | ||
| It's not just this is who she is. | ||
| And the guy was like, he had treats. | ||
| But I get it from his perspective. | ||
| If you live in an area, and this area has been clearly assigned as a place where if you have a dog, that dog has to be on a leash. | ||
| That's super reasonable, man. | ||
| Put your dog on a leash. | ||
| Take it around. | ||
| Enjoy the park with everybody else. | ||
| But don't ruin it for everybody else because you want your dog to run free. | ||
| You need to find another place to have a dog. | ||
| You can't have a dog here. | ||
| And if this guy is like... | ||
| Yeah, there's all these birds there. | ||
| So this dude is really into fucking spotting birds. | ||
| I've never been into birdwatching, but I fucking 100% get it. | ||
| Because I've seen some cool shit. | ||
| For hunting, I'm sure you feel the same way, right? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think it's slightly different, right? | ||
| I mean, you can enjoy the beauty of birds without wanting to go kill them. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But isn't there an element when you're hunting, you find the moment where you come across this animal, it's not just kill. | ||
| It is a beauty, but you've got to put that aside and get the job done. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| It's too intense. | ||
| And it's too fraught with peril. | ||
| You can fuck it up. | ||
| So you're confronting those, I've never hunted before. | ||
| It's real weird. | ||
| You pull up a file from the back of your hard drive. | ||
| You're like, oh, I forgot about this folder. | ||
| And you pull out this folder of these hunter-gatherer instincts that pop in. | ||
| The same thing when you catch a fish. | ||
| It's like catching a fish and there's something like, oh, I got him, I got him, I got him, I got the fish. | ||
| But there's something more terrifying about mammals, like closing in on a mammal. | ||
| When you're fishing, it's so passive most of the time. | ||
| You're baiting something and you hook it. | ||
| But you have to make a decision in a moment to act aggressively and to end this thing's life. | ||
| Yeah, and you have to prepare for it. | ||
| So you have to think about it all the time. | ||
| It's not a simple thing. | ||
| You have to think about it all the time. | ||
| So you can choose to get your meat the regular way or choose to do it that way. | ||
| And I've chosen to do it that way because it adds this element. | ||
| I'll still eat domestic cows and stuff like that, but it adds this element of what food is. | ||
| Like when I eat something that I killed myself, there's a weird element to that. | ||
| There's a connection. | ||
| Truthful isn't the right word, but it's a more clear representation of the process. | ||
| It's honest. | ||
| Yeah, that's a better word. | ||
| You understand what it is. | ||
| But you also understand, like I've come across, you know, ones that have been killed by wolves. | ||
| We came across, me and my friend Mike, we were in, Mike Harkridge, we were in Canada, in BC. We came across this moose calf that had been destroyed by wolves and torn apart. | ||
| It was so strange, man. | ||
| It was like part of me was because it was real fresh like within a few days like maybe a day might have been that day and When they walked away from it because it was like hair everywhere and these stripped down bones And it was just a spot in the middle of the woods where you just came across a moose calf. | ||
| Yeah, and you realize like wow This is how they usually go Yeah, the violence is a different type of violence. | ||
| This is how they usually die. | ||
| They just get torn apart out here in this field. | ||
| The thing that freaked me out that I didn't expect... | ||
| Jamie, I know I have this on my Instagram. | ||
| See if you can find it. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Because it's like from 2013, I think. | ||
| So I was on this moose hunt in BC with my friend Ben O'Brien. | ||
| And when we were going through these woods looking for a moose, we found this moose calf that had been killed by wolves. | ||
| And it was... | ||
| You could tell it was wolves. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Mike knew. | ||
| Mike knew right away. | ||
| He just knows. | ||
| I mean, he lives there. | ||
| He's a professional guide and a rancher. | ||
| That's it, right there. | ||
| So this is what freaked me out. | ||
| Is all the hair. | ||
| Like, I didn't expect the hair. | ||
| Is that dog hair or is that moose hair? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's moose hair. | ||
| That's the hair from the animal that they killed. | ||
| Why is it gray? | ||
| Well, they have a lot of white. | ||
| Moose have a lot of white. | ||
| Underbelly, in particular, they have a lot of white. | ||
| They all vary. | ||
| That was 290 weeks ago. | ||
| Oh wow, isn't that nuts? | ||
| If you want to measure time in that way, that's weird. | ||
| Dude, that's kind of scary. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| 290 weeks. | ||
| So that was a photo that I took. | ||
| I think it was about three hours north of Vancouver. | ||
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Wow. | |
| We landed in Vancouver and drove up there, up north. | ||
| It was amazing, though. | ||
| There's something about that when you're around these animals that are just killing other animals and just eating them out. | ||
| He found it because he saw some birds. | ||
| The way people live up there, when you live around wolves and bears and shit, you're in tune with all this shit. | ||
| I didn't even notice it. | ||
| He saw some birds that were kind of circling around this one area. | ||
| He's like, let's go see what the fuck they're interested in. | ||
| And then we got there and stumbled upon that. | ||
| When you're in nature and you start to integrate yourself and become in tune, it's fucking fascinating. | ||
| I've never hunted, but I fish a lot. | ||
| And when you're fly fishing, you start to become aware of the bugs that are around you and what kind of flies that you want to make for your bait. | ||
| And it's really interesting. | ||
| It feels very spiritual. | ||
| I think that what people are when they're in cities are like people what they are when they're having sex with two condoms on. | ||
| Who has sex with two condoms on? | ||
| Nobody. | ||
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But there's no sense to it. | |
| When you go to the woods, it's like you feel the wind different because it's like the wind just moving through the trees. | ||
| It's not blocked off by buildings and coming down these streets and alleys. | ||
| It's different wind. | ||
| It's wind in a natural trajectory. | ||
| You know, birds have different... | ||
| Accents, city birds, and rural birds. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Crows? | |
| For sure. | ||
| Crows are the smartest, by the way. | ||
| They're smart as fuck, right? | ||
| They're smart as fuck. | ||
| Calling it after crows. | ||
| Representing. | ||
| Crows and ravens. | ||
| When you're out there and there's no sound, And there's no media. | ||
| There's no nothing. | ||
| And you're just hearing the whistling of the wind. | ||
| And you hear a stream. | ||
| And you hear a hawk. | ||
| And you see an animal walk through the brush. | ||
| And you don't know what it is. | ||
| And then you realize, if I wasn't here, this would be exactly how this would go down. | ||
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And how lucky are you to witness it? | |
| We're muted. | ||
| We're muted by our artificially constructed civilization where we've narrowed down the possibilities of being eaten. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what we've done. | ||
| Everything else is super vulnerable to be eaten all the time. | ||
| We've narrowed that down. | ||
| We use our big brains and our fucking opposable thumbs and we said, look, I'm going to stop being eaten by cats and shit. | ||
| Let's make some fucking houses. | ||
| We need some guns. | ||
| We need to be vigilant. | ||
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What's interesting now, I mean, I think I'd rather live in a city than get eaten. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, dude, 100%. | ||
| Maybe that's selfish. | ||
| I think there's a balance to be had, and I don't think we achieve that balance. | ||
| I think we need to spend more time in that world to understand what the world is. | ||
| I think we're basing our view of the world off of blunt data. | ||
| I don't think it's giving us a real nuanced sense of what your part in the universe is. | ||
| I think a big part of that is the light pollution that we're all afflicted by. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's something really humbling about staring out into the space and seeing all the stars. | ||
| And we have decided that lights are more important than the enlightenment that you get from staring at space. | ||
| I don't know if it's a good call. | ||
| Not a good call. | ||
| Definitely not good. | ||
| Some of the best moments of my life have been hanging out with people I care about, looking up at the stars. | ||
| It's so powerful. | ||
| There's something about it where it's a reality check. | ||
| Like, hey man, this is forever above your head. | ||
| It doesn't have an ending to it. | ||
| You're thinking about this small insular little world that you live in. | ||
| You're a part of something that's literally infinite and you're flying through it right now. | ||
| And you've decided that it's more important to be able to drive at 10 o'clock down a nice well lit street than it is to see the majesty of the universe. | ||
| Well, the inability to understand that plays into so many of the things we were talking about earlier. | ||
| Just cops freaking out, people freaking out, unable to recognize, you know, a more total awareness in a situation. | ||
| But if you want to boil it down to the natural brass tacks of like, you know, Mother Earth, if you want to look at it that way, saying, go to your fucking room. | ||
| And we have to sit and let her breathe. | ||
| I mean, think about what's happened in the past few months is just in terms of pollution and the way that the earth is growing and breathing. | ||
| All kinds of incredible things are happening. | ||
| Like with the monkeys in, was it India? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| There's one in Thailand. | ||
| Did you see the Thailand one? | ||
| Was that Thailand? | ||
| I think they sent it to you. | ||
| Where there was no tourists anymore, so the monkeys were going to war with each other. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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That's not as beautiful as I wanted to depict this thought, but whatever. | |
| That's my cousin. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Mother Nature's telling us to go to our room. | ||
| I think we would like to believe that our systems, all of them, they're independent. | ||
| That our system of the way we view each other... | ||
| If you wanted to look at... | ||
| Racism, classism, sexism, all the different isms and all the different biases that things have, people leaning left and leaning right and censoring people that oppose them. | ||
| If you wanted to look at it like a system, like the thoughts are a system and then all the life forms are a system. | ||
| There's some sort of a moving, flowing give and take to all of it, to life and death and the organic... | ||
| Structure of the land that you live on. | ||
| It's all supposed to work together. | ||
| Animals die, they fertilize the ground. | ||
| And as soon as we... | ||
| We jam ourselves into this and we go, you know what? | ||
| Fuck fertilizer. | ||
| How about we grow these fucking things with chemicals and we put them in a big warehouse and we force Mexicans to work here for $3 an hour. | ||
| It all feeds into everything. | ||
| It's all related. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And then people get sick. | ||
| And then the abuse. | ||
| And then all these negative things. | ||
| And then they affect crime. | ||
| And then crime affects the way you think about each other. | ||
| Well, no one wants to take accountability for their choices. | ||
| Like, the guys upstairs, the ones in power, don't want to say, well, this is what we did. | ||
| But since it's all fucked up and it's not working, we're going to just point our fingers at these people. | ||
| Well, because if they fuck up, we hate them. | ||
| And we want them out of office. | ||
| You fucking loser. | ||
| You ruined this economy. | ||
| They don't even have a chance to fuck up. | ||
| But people fuck up in everything they do. | ||
| But so much of the tension of it is that consciousness comes from that natural system and is part of it. | ||
| So how do you... | ||
| Reconciling that is... | ||
| Is that the chimpanzee or the bonobo? | ||
| That's where the mushrooms come in. | ||
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Yellow! | |
| The mushrooms show you the grand pattern. | ||
| And make you realize how you're fucking up, kid. | ||
| One of the saddest things I've discovered as a fisherwoman... | ||
| I don't get to fish as much as I would like. | ||
| You're an angler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Angler. | |
| You're an angler. | ||
| It's a better... | ||
| Almost every place that I've gone fishing... | ||
| In the past few years, in beautiful places, even in pristine nature. | ||
| We were fly fishing in Montana on the Clark Fork River, and it's not a piece of trash for miles. | ||
| Just eagles, ospreys, just absolutely stunning. | ||
| People getting eaten. | ||
| People getting eaten. | ||
| Left and right. | ||
| A couple. | ||
| You can't eat any of the fish that you catch because sometime in the 70s or 80s the mines that they were using in the area started leaking minerals into the river and it contaminated the area and you'll get really sick. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Yes, it is true. | ||
| Is this a rumor? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You can't eat the fish. | ||
| Where are you hearing this? | ||
| There's some areas where that's the case. | ||
| The areas around Billings, there's a lot of places that have had... | ||
| But if you're in other places, I guarantee you, you could eat the fish. | ||
| Clark Fork River in Montana, I don't believe. | ||
| But here's what I'm saying. | ||
| Outside Missoula. | ||
| It would be an ecological catastrophe of the highest order the United States has ever seen if all the rivers in Montana were polluted to the point where you couldn't eat the fish. | ||
| You're talking about a certain section? | ||
| Maybe it was a certain section. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I would imagine it has to be. | ||
| That would be horrific. | ||
| But even then, one of our last river trips a couple years ago, Ben and I were hired as entertainment for this incredible trip on the Snake River in Hell's Canyon in Oregon. | ||
| I mean, no cell service for three days, so you don't have a fucking cell phone. | ||
| Shitting outside. | ||
| See? | ||
| Like doing it. | ||
| Hole in the grass or no? | ||
| No, we had like a... | ||
| It was a bucket situation. | ||
|
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Oh, gross. | |
| And then you put this like powder. | ||
| It's horrifying. | ||
| A powder on a bucket? | ||
| But you got to do it. | ||
| Hey, hey, toughen up, Rogan. | ||
| That's where I draw the line. | ||
|
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That's where I become a bitch. | |
| I'm not shitting in a bucket. | ||
|
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Are you a glamper? | |
| I'm not shitting in a bucket. | ||
| No, when I went hunting with Brian Callen, we had a shit in the forest. | ||
| You didn't shit in a bucket? | ||
| No, we had a shit in the forest. | ||
| And I took his shit. | ||
| I have a picture somewhere on my phone. | ||
| And I put a flag in it. | ||
| I made a flag. | ||
| I have aluminum foil, and I planted it in his shit, and I had him standing over it with his pants down to his ankles, giving me the thumbs up, and we're in the middle of Montana. | ||
| Let me tell you something, Callan and I, we hunted for seven days. | ||
| It was one long, ridiculous joke after another. | ||
| All we were doing was stuff like that. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Brian Callan came up with a character called the Ravine-comer. | ||
| He's a guy who finds ravines and just jacks off in ravines. | ||
|
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He was deciding, like, some people are into, like, ladies' feet. | |
| Some people are into hair and eyes. | ||
| I like a fucking ravine! | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I can relate. | ||
| These camera guys were dying. | ||
| They're filming this hunting show. | ||
| And you got Brian Cowan who's miming, jacking off into a ravine. | ||
|
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With a flag in his shit. | |
| We were crying. | ||
| We were crying. | ||
| It was so ridiculous. | ||
| I think I'm crying. | ||
| I had a real tear. | ||
| I wish you were there. | ||
| I wish you could see it. | ||
| Hey, you can bring Honey Honey next time. | ||
| We'll fake jerk off in the room. | ||
|
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I think they even filmed it. | |
| Whatever we gotta do. | ||
| I think they even filmed it, but they wouldn't put it on the show. | ||
| And I was like, you know, I mean, you would lose a lot of fans, but you gain a lot, too. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I'm used to it these days. | ||
| It's a fucking ebb and flow. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| No, but there's something to be said... | ||
| It is. | ||
| Clark Fork Fishkill. | ||
| Mind waste. | ||
| But it can't be all of them. | ||
| That's got to be like one creek. | ||
| Because I think one of the things they do... | ||
| I think it's a pretty big river, though. | ||
| It's gotten a lot of rain. | ||
| The fish kills that have happened in the past, a lot of times they're shortly after big rain events. | ||
| Rain starts to run over land and it'll pick up a lot of metals from those contaminated areas we call sickens. | ||
|
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Ew. | |
| Oh, slickens. | ||
| Slickens is better. | ||
| Isn't Slickens better? | ||
| Slickens. | ||
| Those metals can get into the river. | ||
|
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Betty Slickens. | |
| Slickens. | ||
| Have you ever heard that word before? | ||
| No. | ||
| Slickens are pieces of ground in the upper Clark Fork watershed devoid of life due to heavy metal contamination dating back to the early 20th century flood that washed mine waste off the Butte Hill and down river all the way to Missoula. | ||
| So all the way down there, those fish could die. | ||
| But that's what's so disconcerting is, you know, back to when Ben and I did this river raft trip, which was so, it was just beautiful. | ||
| But I mean, you're in the middle of nowhere, no cell service, like nothing but nature. | ||
| And when we were on the Snake River in Hell's Canyon, it's a canyon, right? | ||
| So any runoff from farms up top is going to end up in the river. | ||
| And we did a lot of fishing and almost everything I caught, any catfish that came up, bass, all had weird abscesses on them. | ||
| But you could see... | ||
| Why did we go there? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I wonder why... | ||
| I mean, maybe next time we'll go to a different river. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| Great idea, Ben. | ||
|
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Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. | |
| Hey, you pick the river. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's go there. | ||
| That place sucks. | ||
| Let's go to another place, bro. | ||
| Are you channeling your inner Jeff Spicoli? | ||
|
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Hey, does this river have abscesses on your fish? | |
| Because if not, we want to fish there. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| That's a great idea, actually. | ||
| That's the darkest deal with mining, right? | ||
| That's the thing that everyone's terrified of. | ||
| I have a lot of good friends that are involved in conservation and a lot of the laws that get passed in terms of what affects wildlife, what areas are allowed to be open for mining and stuff like that. | ||
| They're always moving and trying to stop stuff like that from being happened, from being drilled. | ||
| Because you never know. | ||
| I mean, there's just so many times it'll poison a system. | ||
| And if that's the case, that it goes all the way down to Missoula, I don't know how far that is from Clark Fork, is that what it is? | ||
| The river is called Clark Fork. | ||
| How far away is it from Missoula that it goes all the way down there? | ||
| I don't know, we probably drove like an hour or so to get to the spot. | ||
| It's not long, not far. | ||
| It's not far. | ||
| But imagine that, if it goes all the way down there. | ||
| So that's like what? | ||
| 50, 60 miles of fucked up creek? | ||
| There's this great book called The Four Fish, and it came out a long time ago, which makes it scarier. | ||
| But the writer talks about the four remaining fish, and then there's all the farming industries and how that's kind of like... | ||
| Just kind of cross-bred into our river systems. | ||
| And so at this point, if someone's like, this is your Atlantic salmon, it's not necessarily the Atlantic salmon that would have been the same salmon. | ||
| Oh yeah, it's farm-ranged. | ||
| Nothing's what it used to be, the way it's evolved. | ||
| And the sad part is... | ||
| I am such an optimist at heart, but in terms of fishing and getting—and you could probably relate to this with hunting—authentic, clean fish, it's not a thing. | ||
| We've fucked with the earth too much with our pesticides and the way that we farm and the way that we try to fuck with nature. | ||
| It's just not—you don't know what you're catching and if you're going to ingest it. | ||
| Who knows what it is anymore? | ||
| There's a great book that actually just got released about salmon. | ||
| My friend Steve Rinella on The Meat Eater interviewed the author. | ||
| I like that guy. | ||
| Yeah, he's great. | ||
| Steve's an amazing guy. | ||
| And he's just one of the best representatives for the best well-read arguments for a hunting, fishing lifestyle. | ||
| But he has this great podcast called Meat Eater, and he had on this guy who wrote this book on salmon, and he was explaining how complicated it is for salmon to bounce back. | ||
| Because if you took some farm salmon and you just threw them in a river with a bunch of salmon that are swimming up river to breed, these dumb salmon wouldn't know where to go. | ||
| They're in a farm. | ||
| They just sit around waiting to be fed. | ||
| They don't know anything. | ||
| So here they are, 24 pounds, just dumb as fuck. | ||
| Just like a robot person. | ||
| Like, they don't, like, hey, where are we going for food? | ||
| Where's the food? | ||
| Like, bitch, you gotta earn this food. | ||
|
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You gotta go kill these fish. | |
| Look at those bugs. | ||
|
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Jump, get them, jump. | |
| Jump up the rocks. | ||
| Fish robot. | ||
| You guys are swimming upriver? | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| Why don't you just wait for the food? | ||
|
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Yeah, the guy. | |
| What about the guy? | ||
| There's supposed to be pellets, right? | ||
| They told me there was going to be pellets here. | ||
| Yeah, where's the fucking pellets, bitch? | ||
| Apparently, each river, like each tributary is specific to one sort of like almost breed of salmon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the type of salmon. | ||
| And they don't even know how the fuck they know how to come back to the place where they were born. | ||
| So they find the place where they were born and they fucking die there. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| How do they know how to get back there? | ||
| And if you block the river, they don't know what the fuck to do. | ||
| So when people put dams up and shit and they block the river, they just kill off giant streams of this majestic animal. | ||
| But it's such a weird animal because it's got to travel to the ocean. | ||
| It's this weird fish. | ||
| It gets smaller and smaller every year, the population. | ||
| And that's what's like, at this point, like, are we just going to start eating farmed salmon and only farmed salmon? | ||
| Like, wild caught is a thing? | ||
| It's got other consequences, too, with orcas. | ||
| There's a resident population, I think in the Puget Sound, around Seattle, in the Pacific Northwest, there's a resident population of these dolphins that only eat salmon. | ||
| Those dicks! | ||
| No, there's no salmon for them anymore. | ||
| They're fucking starving. | ||
| Oh shit, I feel bad now. | ||
| They won't eat the other stuff. | ||
| The salmon that are thriving up there are the ones that are transitory. | ||
| And they come in and they eat the seals and shit. | ||
| They eat mammals. | ||
| And these other ones won't eat seals. | ||
| They just won't eat them. | ||
| They only want to eat salmon. | ||
| Since there's no salmon, they're like, literally, they're worried they're going to... | ||
| Wow, isn't that crazy? | ||
| They just don't have that. | ||
| They don't have it. | ||
| They don't have it. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You ever read that book, Sapiens? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Was it Noah Yuval Harari? | ||
| Yeah, Harari. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| An incredible book. | ||
| It's so eye-opening. | ||
| And he talks about... | ||
| This is dating back, what, 70, 80, 90,000 years, whenever the human species, or Homo sapiens, were introduced into an environment. | ||
| It's somewhere between 50 and 80% of the other species in 100 years were extinct. | ||
| It's just a natural side effect of sharing space with humans. | ||
| That's just what we do. | ||
| Well, I think it's also, because we figured out how to make these houses and get away from being eaten, We've gotten super ridiculous about the way we allocate resources, and we made way too many of us. | ||
| We're like rats on a sinking ship. | ||
| There's so many of us. | ||
| At this point, I kind of feel like holding on to my nostalgic... | ||
| Fishing, you know, experiences and things like that. | ||
| I just have to keep going forward and be like, all right, this is the new norm. | ||
| You know, you can't do this, you can't do this. | ||
| I think there's something else going on with fish. | ||
| There's a thing that's... | ||
| That's one example, though. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Like, just everything. | ||
| But I should say that in the culture of fly fishing, it's more common and respected to catch and release than I would say any other type of fishing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I prefer spin real fishing. | ||
| I like eating when I catch. | ||
| I think it's something weird. | ||
| And I've gone catch and release fishing before. | ||
| I have done it before. | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| But there's something about catching and then eating it that day that's extremely satisfying. | ||
| And then also it's like, I know it's legal to catch and release. | ||
| I know it's legal. | ||
| But should it be? | ||
| I mean, what are you doing? | ||
| You're playing a little game? | ||
| I could have killed you, but I'm going to let you know. | ||
| You're playing unwilling jujitsu with some dudes in a parking lot. | ||
| You're just grabbing them. | ||
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I'm going to kill you. | |
| I'm not. | ||
| Let you go. | ||
| Take care, buddy. | ||
| You've decided to fuck with that fish's day. | ||
| Don't they know? | ||
| They start to learn. | ||
| They're like, I'm not falling for that shit again. | ||
| They're not that smart. | ||
| We're assuming they're that smart. | ||
| I think if you make something that looks like a fly, they just jump on it. | ||
| I can relate. | ||
| There's a mask. | ||
| Do you jump on flies? | ||
| I bow to my instincts. | ||
| Fly fishing is badass. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It's an art form. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| I've watched really good fly fishermen. | ||
| There's something about it where they're stripping that line. | ||
| They're gently plopping that cast. | ||
| There's something about it. | ||
| Let it hunt. | ||
| Let it hunt. | ||
| Oh, Johnny Stickfish. | ||
| Mend it upstream, let it hunt. | ||
| And the thing, well, I like fly fishing a lot. | ||
| I do prefer spin real fishing. | ||
| Is it just preference? | ||
| But it is. | ||
| It's like ballet. | ||
| It's like the ballet for the river. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like hibachi grills. | ||
| Everybody has a different favorite kind of fishing. | ||
| My favorite kind of fishing was always bass fishing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because they're just such an American animal. | ||
| Its face is way too big. | ||
| It's got a giant mouth. | ||
| You mean a largemouth bass? | ||
| Yeah, a largemouth bass. | ||
| Even a smallmouth bass has a face that's way too big. | ||
| Smallmouth bass still has a big fucking mouth. | ||
| You know, it's relative. | ||
| It's all relative. | ||
| But that's an American kind of fishing. | ||
| You know, you're throwing a crankbait on a lily pad and you're pulling it off the lily pad and moving it through the water. | ||
| And you see this explosion of water and this fucking steroided bruiser. | ||
| That's what I like about it. | ||
| That's what I like about the spin reel. | ||
| And also, there's a little more variety, personally, for spin reel fishing. | ||
| You can, you know, fly fishing, you're on the surface, you're mostly catching trout. | ||
| Not, like, trout are great. | ||
| Love trout. | ||
| It's for rich white guys, let's be honest. | ||
| It's for a few weird lesbians and rich white guys. | ||
| Your words. | ||
| I cannot speak to this. | ||
| You're hilarious. | ||
| That's just doing it. | ||
| It's like guys who are looking for peace and quiet and doing shit their wife doesn't want to do. | ||
| They're putting on rubber pants and they're trying to get away from their wife. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Peace and quiet out here. | ||
| Peace and quiet. | ||
| As they jerk off into the ravine. | ||
| Bass fishing is like you're listening to Johnny Cash songs drinking beer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Casting. | |
| Let's play a song. | ||
| Casting rubber worms. | ||
| I want to play a song. | ||
| What do you want to play? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do you want to play? | ||
| Can I make a request? | ||
| Can I request LA River? | ||
| This is going to get sloppy. | ||
| No, okay. | ||
| I literally have to look up the lyrics. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's your song. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| There's so many songs between them. | ||
| Okay, how about Angel of Death? | ||
| That would be super nostalgic. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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This is the song I first heard from you guys. | |
| You got me three whiskeys in. | ||
| I was only supposed to have one. | ||
| How good is young Jamie? | ||
| I'm so good. | ||
| Busted out the lyrics. | ||
| Okay, let's give Joe both songs because he wants them. | ||
| He's got LA River queued up and ready to rock. | ||
| Are you pissed at me now? | ||
| This is such a... | ||
| Why are you guys... | ||
| Don't get insecure with each other on my show. | ||
| I hate that word, by the way. | ||
| I hate that word. | ||
| When people are talking about in this space, fuck you. | ||
| You're playing games. | ||
| You're playing games with words in this space. | ||
| What space is this? | ||
| This is Joe's space, Joe. | ||
| Space around the human race on Earth? | ||
| Ask me what show I'm obsessed with right now. | ||
| Space Force. | ||
| Are you really? | ||
| Oh, so good. | ||
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So good. | |
| Okay, now I have to watch because I read a terrible review. | ||
| No, it's hilarious. | ||
| I'm not super feeling it. | ||
|
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Fuck you! | |
| I'm just weighing in. | ||
| I think it's amazing. | ||
| Also, Ben Schwartz. | ||
| Bless him. | ||
| Big fan. | ||
| Big fan. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| This is a range of opinion. | ||
| Can he have his own opinion? | ||
| Can our friend Ben have his own opinion? | ||
| Totally, totally. | ||
| Why did you shame his opinion? | ||
| Let me just abuse you in private. | ||
| But this is not about a critical issue. | ||
| This shows how tribal people are. | ||
| We're only talking about a television show about my face. | ||
| You're attacking so much. | ||
| You know what we're doing? | ||
| You know what we're doing? | ||
| You gotta make aggressive about his views on a sitcom. | ||
| Sit with it, sis. | ||
| First of all. | ||
| Sit with it. | ||
| Sit with it. | ||
| I'm gonna slur my words and I don't care. | ||
| I'm gonna tell you. | ||
| Bite him back. | ||
|
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The alcohol speaks. | |
| We're really accepting our differences in a really healthy way. | ||
| Guys, don't fuck this up, Joe. | ||
| No, I'm here to help. | ||
| You know what? | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| Listen, I test the waters. | ||
| You're allowed to not like Space Force. | ||
| You're allowed. | ||
|
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What's that? | |
| You're allowed to not like? | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| I feel like I can't even watch it now because I love both of you and I don't want to pick a side. | ||
| No, see, you can feel however you feel, though, Joe. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
|
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I don't give a shit. | |
| I'm going to listen to Suzanne. | ||
| No. | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| I'm going to try not to mess this up. | ||
| I'm really slurring my words. | ||
|
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I'm going to listen to Suzanne on everything other than Space Force. | |
| And that's all that's important to me, which is weird, but... | ||
|
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It's weird. | |
| You got one of your candles here. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I don't think he's lit it. | ||
| Big Lebowski. | ||
| Big Lebowski. | ||
| Big Lebowski, yes or no? | ||
| Great film. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Love it. | ||
|
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Obsessed. | |
| You can be my friend. | ||
| That's what it took. | ||
| How deep in our... | ||
| Is this like an hour and a half, two hours? | ||
| How are we doing? | ||
| It's four o'clock. | ||
| Ken, why are you keeping time? | ||
| Because I'm about to smoke weed. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Can we play first? | ||
| Otherwise, things get weird. | ||
| Angel of Death? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
|
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Angel of Death. | |
| You don't have to play first. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| No, I can't believe it. | ||
| Joe, fuck it. | ||
|
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This is bad. | |
| I'm so scared. | ||
| That's that Elon Musk weed, son. | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| What do you mean when you say that? | ||
| He smoked it or he made it? | ||
| He smoked that when he figured out how to connect that SpaceX thing to the space station. | ||
| No. | ||
|
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What? | |
| This is the stuff that killed his stock by 6%. | ||
| He'll be fine. | ||
| It didn't really. | ||
| He bounced back instantly. | ||
| It's just people panicking. | ||
|
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Marijuana! | |
| He's a super genius! | ||
| We should go with a raise deck because it's so much higher now than it was then. | ||
| Way higher. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, I think every time he talks in long form, his stock goes up. | ||
| He's just got to understand who he is. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Don't trust me on everything, but trust me. | ||
| Leave that guy alone. | ||
| Leave that guy alone. | ||
| Give him all the encouragement you can. | ||
| He's doing crazy shit. | ||
| He's not trying to harm anybody. | ||
| He's trying to build tunnels that shoot you all the way to Las Vegas. | ||
| He's trying to make electric cars that go zero to 60 in one and a half seconds. | ||
| He's trying to put us on Mars. | ||
| Positive support. | ||
| Keep helping him. | ||
| Don't troll Elon Musk. | ||
|
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I'm not! | |
| Anybody who does that, like, please! | ||
| I know you can! | ||
| He's about to quit Twitter again! | ||
| You fucks! | ||
|
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No! | |
| No, no, no! | ||
| Am I right? | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| He's about to quit Twitter again! | ||
| Leave him alone, you fucks! | ||
| Save him, Joe! | ||
| Joe, if there's anyone who can save him, it's you! | ||
| Well, I don't know how much he listens to me. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I wouldn't listen to me if I was him. | ||
| If I was him, it would be like, if my ten-year-old came to me with some really good advice... | ||
| I'd have to put that shit through a long filter. | ||
| A ten-year-old? | ||
| So you're Elon's ten-year-old? | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Basically the same thing. | ||
| If I come to him with an idea, he's going to be like, oh, cool. | ||
| Yeah, call you back. | ||
| He's so chill. | ||
|
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I listened to the last podcast and he's just so calm. | |
| He's a good guy. | ||
| I enjoy being in his presence. | ||
| He's a very nice person. | ||
| And there was a weird moment, like the first podcast we did where I asked him, I said, I go, what is going on in your head? | ||
| I go, what is it like being you? | ||
| Because I could tell. | ||
| You can tell when you're talking to him. | ||
| It's almost like you're talking to someone who had... | ||
| If you imagine that the mind is like every other part of the body, we've all seen people that have ridiculous body parts, right? | ||
| We've all seen people that were born with enormous breasts, right? | ||
| Don't I know it! | ||
| How crazy is that it? | ||
| That's just a random. | ||
|
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Right, right, right. | |
| Some dudes are born with enormous noses, enormous feet, enormous dicks. | ||
| It's just weird, random. | ||
| You've got to think the same thing happens with the brain. | ||
|
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Big toes. | |
| Yeah, yeah, for sure. | ||
| Sometimes the brain comes out just some supercharged, 1,000 horsepower, hybrid engine, and you're like, holy shit. | ||
| Let them drill. | ||
| Let them drill! | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Let him get us to Mars! | ||
| You can't get to Mars, Marty! | ||
| Let him get us to Mars! | ||
| That's what it's like. | ||
| That's how I feel with that guy. | ||
| I'm like, just be nice to him. | ||
| Be nice to him and let him do whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| I listened to some of that podcast too, and it was interesting to see because he said something that stuck with me. | ||
| You're talking about his decision to sell all his houses. | ||
| And he says people see that as an attack vector. | ||
| And I was like, dang. | ||
| That says a lot about his narrative and his feel of the world. | ||
| He's the real deal, folks. | ||
| You gotta listen to me. | ||
| He'll go down in history. | ||
| He's not a perfect person. | ||
| No one is. | ||
| He does flare up. | ||
| He got mad at that guy who was criticizing him in that Thailand thing and he got sued for it. | ||
| No one who's human is perfect. | ||
| But he's trying to do amazing things for technology, for the environment, for the human race, for the propagation of the species. | ||
| Like, he really thinks that we need to plan ahead and make colonies on Mars so that the human race can survive. | ||
| Because he doesn't think it could totally survive on Earth. | ||
| He's like, there's a high likelihood that something can go wrong. | ||
| And he's right. | ||
| When you see what happened with the pandemic, that was a minor, that was a dress rehearsal for a real event. | ||
| And we failed miserably. | ||
| We panicked. | ||
| There was no talk of the immune system. | ||
| All the talk was like, oh, protect yourself! | ||
| Put a mask on! | ||
| Rubbing gloves! | ||
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Sanitize! | |
| There was all this crazy talk. | ||
| And then at the end of that, emerging, we're realizing this is not correct. | ||
| They all had probably our best interests in mind. | ||
| But human beings are human. | ||
| They fuck up. | ||
| They're not right all the time. | ||
| We're all trying to figure this out together. | ||
| When is it going to be okay to have that When is it going to be okay to fuck up? | ||
| It just appears to not be okay. | ||
| You have to be honest. | ||
| We can just do it anyway. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're not. | ||
| You have to be honest and you have to stay away from any sort of forum where someone can judge you in a dishonest way. | ||
| So if you're honest and someone is judging you on Twitter, if they're saying something to you and type on Twitter something mean and nasty to you. | ||
| Like we were talking about earlier before about people who are bullies. | ||
| And people who are bullies like send you things and like... | ||
| When someone does something like that, it's a function of the limitations of the system that you're working in. | ||
| You're working in this weird thing where you're agreeing to type things. | ||
| You're not even saying them. | ||
| You're just writing it out and putting a period there. | ||
| I don't even know what the sound your voice was making. | ||
| You've broken things down to some real weird thing. | ||
| And also there's no accountability for what you're saying. | ||
| You can't say in front of me, like, you told me you would take me to the moon. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| are you talking about? | ||
| There's no, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| So any kind of conflict that anybody gets online, like part of the problem is it's a shitty way to interact with people. | ||
| It's just super limited. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense to me personally. | ||
| I recently, this weekend, opened up my Instagram to talk to people and I talked to like maybe like 100 people over the weekend just like via voice message and video message and every conversation I had, whether I was met with adverse opinions was peaceful whether I was met with adverse opinions was peaceful and like, because we got to hear each other's voices and I don't want to fight with anybody like that. | ||
| There was a rule of like, if you're going to be nasty, I'm not going to respond to you, but if you want to talk to me about your opinions and the progress that I felt like I made for myself just in trying to understand things that I could never understand because of who I am and where I come from was so valuable. | ||
| But per what you just said, I got to hear people's voices and look into their eyes and talk to them. | ||
| Complete strangers. | ||
| And it felt like something to do. | ||
| That wasn't just reposting things, and that has its purpose as well, but I got to actually talk to people that had something to say, and it was great. | ||
| And all the trolls that like to comment without having any, like, you're not going to fucking get anywhere, I didn't hear from those people. | ||
| I really wanted to. | ||
| That's a good forum though. | ||
| You're actually talking. | ||
| You're talking, they're talking. | ||
| That's a good forum. | ||
| Even if you're doing that just like a FaceTime thing. | ||
| It wasn't exhausting either. | ||
| I had all this energy afterwards. | ||
| I felt fueled. | ||
| I was inspired. | ||
| I didn't... | ||
| Like, if you're gonna hate on me... | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| See you later. | ||
| But if you want to try and meet in the middle, that's where something is going to get done. | ||
| I posted a couple things and people are so angry. | ||
| What did you post that got people angry? | ||
| I posted a few things. | ||
| I posted... | ||
| All Lives Matter? | ||
| No. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I posted a photo. | ||
| You dick. | ||
| Could you imagine? | ||
| No! | ||
| Yes, I can! | ||
| Could you imagine if I ran up to you in like 1995 and I said, listen, one day if you write All Lives Matter, people will kick your ass. | ||
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That is hilarious. | |
| That is fucking nuts. | ||
| I keep thinking about that. | ||
| If you'd have told me when I was a kid that, like, in 2020, we're gonna... | ||
| I'd be like, that's weird. | ||
| Just imagine that phrase. | ||
| Imagine a fucking Orwellian reality where that phrase could get your ass kicked. | ||
| You're like, wait, what? | ||
| What? | ||
| For real? | ||
| It's where we're at. | ||
| Well, our language is changing, you know? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But we have to be careful because the same way cops have power, people who want to control your language have power. | ||
| It's all power. | ||
| We shouldn't have magic words. | ||
| Words should convey intent. | ||
| And as soon as you have some words that have an extra abracadabra to them, they get abused. | ||
| Any kind of magic word, any forbidden word. | ||
| I'm against forbidden words. | ||
| I'm not against the sentiment that's attached to good or bad words. | ||
| I want you to be able to accurately express yourself so I can't play games with what you're saying. | ||
| So you say something to me and it seems valid, but then you say the word pussy or something like that, oh, well, now I discredit everything you said because you said a magic word that you can't use in my accepted version of speech. | ||
| That's what I'm worried about. | ||
| I'm worried it's a sneaky backdoor for people to control conversations and pretend they understand what your intent is. | ||
| Language is supposed to just be noises. | ||
| You just have to have so much patience. | ||
| And that brings me back to Elon Musk. | ||
| One of the things that he said was that you're going to be able to talk without using words. | ||
| That he did say that. | ||
| He's gonna drill holes in people's heads and shoot wires in there. | ||
| No, I like talking. | ||
| I just love talking. | ||
| It's like the acoustic guitar. | ||
| Call me old-fashioned. | ||
| Talking is like the acoustic guitar of communication. | ||
| No need. | ||
| Well, we do that stuff all the time anyway. | ||
| We need acoustic guitars, my point. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| You heard it here, people. | ||
| You thought they were gone to back. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, some people really enjoy traditional archery. | ||
| They want to shoot a bow. | ||
| Totally do. | ||
| Like fucking Robin Hood. | ||
| You never shot a bow? | ||
| No, but can I? Yes. | ||
| You know why you should? | ||
| Because you look like you could be Geena Davis's daughter. | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
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Geena Davis is beautiful. | |
| I know. | ||
| I love her. | ||
| When I was an actor, I remember auditioning for a part for her daughter and I didn't get it. | ||
| I was good. | ||
| I was good enough. | ||
| I was good enough, those idiots. | ||
| 100% you could be Geena Davis's daughter. | ||
| And Geena Davis is a serious archer. | ||
| What?! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Like, really, really good. | ||
|
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Cool. | |
| Like, amazing. | ||
| Dope. | ||
| Like, there's videos of her online. | ||
| She got obsessed with archery. | ||
| She was learning it for, I believe it was a film role. | ||
| And so she got really obsessed with archery. | ||
| That pirate shit. | ||
| Remember that pirate one? | ||
| What? | ||
| Okay, moving on, moving on. | ||
| There's so many movies, man. | ||
| I told you about Zoolander. | ||
|
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You know, the pirate. | |
| No, it wasn't Zoolander. | ||
| I just only remember so much. | ||
| But it was another movie. | ||
| I only have so much room, Ben. | ||
| Forget I said the pirate thing. | ||
| I loved her in The Fly. | ||
| The Fly. | ||
| Jeff Goldblum. | ||
| The Jeff Goldblum Fly is one of the greatest horror movies of all time. | ||
| When people talk about horror movies, there she is. | ||
| She's re... | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
|
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Look at this! | |
| At 41, landed in the U.S. Olympic trials! | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Just before the 2000 Games in Sydney. | ||
|
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Gina, I love you. | |
| She said she did it on a whim and became obsessed with it. | ||
| 60-year-old actress admits... | ||
| A League of Their Own is one of my favorite movies. | ||
| Dude, she's amazing. | ||
| Hey, Thelma and Louise, step the fuck off. | ||
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Hey, what? | |
| How about that video? | ||
| Can't we agree that I also love that movie? | ||
| It's a video of Gina Davis doing archery. | ||
| But you gotta see how she does it. | ||
| Sometimes someone who's a badass at one thing will get really interested in something else. | ||
| And it's interesting that you see... | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Bro, Gina Davis is a fucking serious archer. | ||
| Like you watch her. | ||
| Look at this form! | ||
| That is very Suze-ish. | ||
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Look at this! | |
| She's shooting a fucking arrow through three balls! | ||
| And she's dressed in the peaches uniform! | ||
| Suck my dick! | ||
| That's a league of their own! | ||
| It's back. | ||
| And not only that, she shot that dude in the head. | ||
| She doesn't give a fuck. | ||
|
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It's a rubber dude. | |
| Relentless. | ||
| But she's also doing traditional archery. | ||
| And what I mean by that is she doesn't have... | ||
| She's got a gun. | ||
| She's got a gun, too. | ||
| Don't fuck with Jeannie Davis. | ||
| But she uses a recurve, so it's not a compound bow. | ||
| A compound bow, like what a lot of bow hunters use... | ||
| Is she wearing a mustache? | ||
| That's like an old-school bow. | ||
| That's a modern version of an old-school bow. | ||
| And she just shoots it again? | ||
| She's releasing it. | ||
| Oh, she's going Gallagher. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| Anyway, shout out to Gina Davis. | ||
| That's so cool! | ||
| Yeah, she got into archery and she found out that a lot of people, what a lot of people found out ever since, I mean, the beginning of time, there's something really weird. | ||
| It's really satisfying about releasing an arrow and watching it land on a target. | ||
| It doesn't have to be, you could be a total vegan and enjoy archery. | ||
| Archery is a sport for everyone just like yoga. | ||
| There's something to it. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Like fishing. | ||
| When you catch a fish, you know how you catch a fish and it taps into some sort of ancient DNA? It's the same thing with archery. | ||
| There's something about, when you watch that arrow, but I think it has to do with the fact that throughout human history, for like thousands of years, that was the best way to kill your dinner. | ||
| You had to have a bow and arrow until they figured out guns. | ||
| So that shit is still in our system. | ||
| See, I think it's a tension release thing. | ||
| I think that's a natural human. | ||
| We're attracted to that in everything, in so much of our communication. | ||
| Back to music. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| So much of communication in music is just tension and release. | ||
| I think that as well. | ||
| But I think there's many factors at play. | ||
| But I think one of the factors is the DNA. For sure, one of the factors is that too. | ||
| I think there's a lot of factors. | ||
| There's also the complexity, like the game, the puzzle factor. | ||
| Like one of the things that people like about catching a fish is the same thing they like about beating someone at sorry. | ||
| It's like, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, you want to win the game. | ||
| I want to, come on, bitch. | ||
|
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Come on, bitch. | |
| Take the bank. | ||
| Gotcha! | ||
|
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Motherfucker! | |
| Totally! | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
|
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There's a little game you're playing. | |
| There's a strategy involved. | ||
| Yeah, there's a skill set. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It all taps into our human reward system that is designed to reward us for the behavior that makes us more likely to survive, particularly when we're living in a place where we can get eaten, which is most of the human history. | ||
|
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The eaten days. | |
| I think the eaten days are a big part of our DNA. I think that's a big... | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Our fear response and all that. | ||
| Fight and fight. | ||
| You know, there's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake that was talking about this, and one of the things he was saying is that... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Morphic Resonance. | ||
| We were on tour with Jake Bugg and his tour manager was obsessed with Rupert Sheldrake. | ||
| And he was talking about these... | ||
| Sorry, I should... | ||
| No, I was just gonna say that one other thing that he said that's really fascinating. | ||
| He said that things have a memory to them and that he believes that maybe even objects have memory to them. | ||
| And one of the things that he was talking about is that children... | ||
| Children who live in New York City, they're not afraid of child molesters or car accidents. | ||
| They're afraid of monsters. | ||
| They're all afraid of monsters because we used to have- Define monsters. | ||
| Cats. | ||
| Big cats. | ||
| That's what everybody was afraid of. | ||
| Everybody's afraid of the thing in the dark that gets you. | ||
| Because that's what kept killing people all throughout history. | ||
| That's where all the werewolf movies come from, that the wolves are so smart they must be part human. | ||
| They're really smart. | ||
| Wolves are really smart and they ate people forever until we figured out how to make houses. | ||
| They just ate us. | ||
| And all these things are, well they are dogs, but all these things are programmed into us. | ||
| And you don't realize that until you're out actually in the woods and all those things are turned on again. | ||
| It's like, kick on system three, four and five! | ||
| Like three, four and five, this bitch lives in the Bronx! | ||
| Coyotes near Griffith Park. | ||
| I live near Griffith Park. | ||
| And I saw one maybe a hundred yards away. | ||
| Couldn't give a fuck. | ||
| No, it bayed. | ||
| It went off. | ||
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What? | |
| And the hairs on the back of my neck. | ||
| It was a feeling I hadn't felt before. | ||
| I've never seen a wolf in the wild. | ||
| Did you thirst for its blood? | ||
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I offered my blood as a sign of compassion. | |
| That's weird. | ||
| I've never seen a wolf in the wild that I'm absolutely sure of. | ||
| I saw one. | ||
| I was with my friend Cam Haynes in Alberta. | ||
| We saw one walking across this dirt road. | ||
| We're pretty sure it was a wolf. | ||
| It was pretty big. | ||
| It was like dog-sized. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, which is like, when you get to anywhere around dog size, like 70, 80 pounds, you know you're not dealing with a coyote anymore, probably. | ||
| Especially in the woods. | ||
| And there's a lot of wolves up there. | ||
| But that's, if there's any animal that I would love to, like, if I could just fucking follow them around with a drone, and just watch them live their lives without me having any idea I was there. | ||
| Just watch a wolf for a week. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That would give you a sense of what, we have this fucking... | ||
| Weird Pixar ideology when it comes to wildlife. | ||
| Even if you're watching a documentary, how close were you? | ||
| Where are these animals? | ||
| Our instincts have been muted. | ||
| We are in a digital age of self-obsession, narcissism, and kids don't play outside anymore. | ||
| The population... | ||
| The population for like, you know, ranch life or getting to integrate with nature and your own instincts is very small. | ||
| Very small. | ||
| You know, and back to New York, you know, talking about people not fearing getting hit by a car, you know, all that stuff. | ||
| Like, it's a product of environment and our environments are so... | ||
| They're so digital. | ||
| And I think about my childhood a lot and how, like, you know, we just went and played outside. | ||
| I grew up outside Cleveland in the suburbs. | ||
| And, you know, there'd be, like, a bunch of kids. | ||
| And, you know, you'd get hurt. | ||
| You'd get stitches. | ||
| You'd get cut or whatever. | ||
| But we were creative. | ||
| Like, I never wore shoes for, like, months at a time in the summer. | ||
| Oh, you got hookworm. | ||
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Probably. | |
| You got that hookworm. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I never got hookworms. | ||
| I never got head lice or hookworms, so thank you very much. | ||
| You know that makes people dumb? | ||
| No, does it? | ||
| Hookworm? | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I hate to do this again because we just talked about it last week. | ||
| Don't scare me because I got cats and I was so afraid of the parasites. | ||
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No, no, that's different. | |
| That's toxoplasmosis. | ||
|
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I know. | |
| But hookworms, this is a real thing, and I'm sorry for anybody who's heard this before, but I have to bring it up again. | ||
| Hookworms are responsible for the stereotype of the dumb southerner. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| No, for real. | ||
| That's because they didn't fucking wash their hands. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It had nothing to do with that. | ||
| It was walking barefoot. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Walking barefoot. | ||
| People were infected by hookworms. | ||
| And hookworms are a parasite that affects brain function. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It drains people with their energy. | ||
| And pull this shit up. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Do I have hookworms? | ||
| Because it freaked you out. | ||
| It thrives in regions of extreme poverty. | ||
| Poor sanitation affects some 740 million people worldwide. | ||
| That's a lot of people. | ||
| Hookworm. | ||
| Just Google hookworm. | ||
| Do I have hookworm? | ||
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What do I do? | |
| Dumb southern stereotype. | ||
| Google that real quick. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| How a worm gave the South a bad name. | ||
| So this is really all about... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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If you've heard this before and you're like, Joe, I'm gonna fucking know this story. | |
| Bro, I love you. | ||
| You gotta listen. | ||
| There's a lot of people listening to this podcast that haven't heard this. | ||
| And this is like really important shit. | ||
| There's reasons for some stereotypes. | ||
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And when you're like, hey, well, Trump's gonna get us through this. | |
| And you're doing a dumb southern accent. | ||
| You must be on the hookworm. | ||
| This is why you're doing a dumb southern accent. | ||
| Because there's a prejudice that we have. | ||
| Sometimes my toes itch. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| But listen, this happened, it was up to 40% of the population, stretching from like Texas to, scroll down a little bit, Texas to West population stretching from Southern Texas to West Virginia. | ||
| Hookworms stymied development throughout the region and bred stereotypes about lazy moronic southerners. | ||
| While the South eventually rid itself of hookworms, those parasites cost the region decades of development and bred widespread misconception about the people who lived there. | ||
| Yet hookworm has not been defeated for good. | ||
| Today, hundreds of millions of people in dozens of nations around the world suffer from hookworm infection. | ||
| The South's experience, measured in both successes and pitfalls, can provide a rough blueprint of how to seek out and quash this American murderer no matter where it's found around the world. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Imagine that that literally... | ||
| Every time I hear things like this, I'm like, I have hookworm. | ||
| Ah, fuck! | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| Let's pause this and think about this. | ||
| Can we pause, please? | ||
| Just imagine all the stereotypes we have about the South. | ||
| Why would it be dumb to live in a place where it doesn't snow? | ||
| Why are they dumb? | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's totally a solid point, sir. | ||
| All those fucking people in Minneapolis and Illinois, they're fine. | ||
| But they don't have hookworm. | ||
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Right. | |
| There's fucking something stupid about people that live where it never snows. | ||
| You assholes can't even get out of your driveway until you've shoveled that bitch. | ||
| And then you're driving on this bullshit-ass slippery road. | ||
| And you want to say this dude who lives in a place with alligators is dumb? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| A lot of other factors, though, too, Joe. | ||
| This might be the big factor. | ||
| What are the factors, Ben? | ||
| Other factors in the South, as far as? | ||
| We don't have to get into that. | ||
| No, no, but take out all that other stuff. | ||
| Reconstruction, slavery, you know, all that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But 100% I wanted to hear. | ||
| But listen, this is one of the things that I really want. | ||
| I think they might be connected. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If that many people down there had it. | ||
| I think it's really likely that it affected their ability to decide what's right and wrong where the rest of the world had moved on. | ||
| I think there's a real argument for that. | ||
| I think that's absolutely worth exploring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's, you know, cultures around the world who have had slavery that weren't connected. | ||
| But still do. | ||
| Or maybe still do. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So there's just something in humans where they're able to adapt to the situation. | ||
| It says hookworms aren't endemic to America's, having likely arrived in the U.S. in the 17th century, unwittingly imported with the Atlantic slave trade. | ||
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What the heck? | |
| Until the early 20th century, however, most in the U.S. did not know what a hookworm was. | ||
| How do you get it? | ||
| That millions of those parasites inhabited the guts of people throughout the South. | ||
| So you get it from not wearing shoes? | ||
| Hookworm symptoms were written off as simply being indicative of Southerners' backward character. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Because you really have to stop and think about it. | ||
| Like, oh, those people in the South are dumb. | ||
| Why? | ||
| They're people. | ||
| People are smart as fuck. | ||
| People figure out how to put satellites in space that lets you get better VCR or whatever. | ||
| They docked on the space station! | ||
| So we can watch Zoolander! | ||
| They're living in the sky! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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They're living in the sky for a year, you fuck! | |
| Some people are dumb as shit, but some people aren't. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, a big part of it might be these fucking parasites. | ||
| We might have a fucked up view of human beings. | ||
| We might be behind the curve. | ||
| God, this is blowing my mind. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| No, I'm just like... | ||
| Question. | ||
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How do you get hookworm? | |
| Just walking around. | ||
| You can get it from a lot of places. | ||
| Through your skin? | ||
| Yeah, it goes through your skin. | ||
| It's transdermal. | ||
| It's transdermal? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of... | ||
| What you said, poor sanitation and stuff like that? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Poor sanitation. | ||
| Look, throughout history, here it goes, contracted by direct contact with feces, as unseemly in the South, unsurprisingly, wanted no association with such a disease. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| So they just kind of buried it. | ||
| No, it says they're not on board in the beginning. | ||
| Yeah, the idea of hookworms, parasites that live within the body and are contracted by direct contact with feces. | ||
| So they tried because they're proud. | ||
| They're proud people. | ||
| Look, there's a thing that I listened to. | ||
| I think it was on... | ||
| I forget the podcast, it might have been NPR, Radio Lab, where they were talking about the South, and one of the reasons why the South is what it is, is they have this sort of honor tradition, and it's like a different way of looking, based on the people that initially... | ||
| Like the Scotch-Irish? | ||
| Yeah, based on the people that initially arrived in that area, and there's so many factors, and again, you could take this out of context and say I'm some sort of an apologist for racists. | ||
| I'm not, but I think you absolutely have to think that all those people down there, whether it's the people that were the slaves, the people that are slave owners, all those people, most likely had a lot, there was a giant percentage of those people that had that hookworm, and who knows how much that affected Just the whole region, the culture. | ||
| There's always gonna be a problem when someone can force someone to work for free, right? | ||
| And that's what slavery is, right? | ||
| You're forcing someone to work for free, you're controlling them, you're owning them. | ||
| There's always gonna be a problem with that. | ||
| People always have a problem if they can get away with shit. | ||
| If they can get away with shit, they'll fucking do it. | ||
| But if they can get away with shit, and also they're dumb, and also they're like, their brains are depleted by a parasite. | ||
| They're impaired by this thing. | ||
| So the rest of the world is saying, hey man, maybe we shouldn't have slaves anymore. | ||
| They're like, I'm gonna fucking fight for what's right. | ||
| I'm a fat little, it's mine! | ||
| They got a fucking 69 Charger, Confederate flag belt buckle. | ||
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Fuck the Charger! | |
| Watch the Chargers go down! | ||
| No, listen, I'm a giant Mopar fan. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| That's a dope car, but that's the Dukes of Hazzard car with the Confederate flag on the roof. | ||
| It was a 68 or a 69 Charger. | ||
| I think it was a 69. But that confederate flag, do you know that that show they can't have on TV anymore? | ||
| It's not on TV anymore because of that flag. | ||
| The flag's offensive. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's fucking offensive. | ||
| I wish it wasn't. | ||
| I wish we got to a point where there was no racism. | ||
| We can have a Confederate flag and people are like, who gives a fuck? | ||
| Put it on. | ||
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Nobody cares. | |
| I don't know if it's going to work out that way. | ||
| No, it might not ever. | ||
| But maybe a thousand years from now. | ||
| Maybe a thousand years from now. | ||
| Just how we go back and we read the Sumerian text. | ||
| A thousand years from now, they'll be so woke. | ||
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They'll just watch a Dukes of the House episode and go, oh, the first Daisy Dukes. | |
| There it is. | ||
| This is the original Daisy Duke. | ||
| Yeah, or the people a thousand years ago from now were like, swastikas are cool. | ||
| Yeah, I was just going to say, I was like, there's a Hitler metaphor in here. | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| Have you guys seen... | ||
| That went wrong. | ||
| No. | ||
| Have you seen the meme of a child, there's a child with his hands over his head, leaning down, like kids in the future, trying to remember for history class what happened in 2020? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Fuck, no. | ||
| It's a kid going... | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| You posted something the other day and I started following the account. | ||
| It was like Lil Duvall, is that right? | ||
| Lil Duvall is the best follow during the pandemic. | ||
| It's so funny and right on point where there's a woman going like this and it's like, what area of revelations am I looking at now or something like that? | ||
| It's fucking hilarious. | ||
| Which chapter of revelations are we doing today? | ||
| My mom said this to me the other day because, you know, they're also alive right now. | ||
| My mom was like, in her beautiful Cleveland accent, she's like, you know what? | ||
| If a bunch of weird bugs start flying out of the sky, I won't be surprised. | ||
| And I was like, me too, Mom. | ||
| I'm not going to be surprised either. | ||
|
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It's getting weirder every fucking day. | |
| Are you optimistic? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You think we can pull through? | ||
| I think we can. | ||
|
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Big time. | |
| I think just the nature of the fact that so many people are protesting. | ||
| I think we're dismantling things that haven't worked for a long time, and I don't know what the answers are, but we're bulldozing this shit. | ||
| And I'm hopeful that as a collective people, we will work towards cohesion. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| And peace. | ||
| We got a lot of white guilt we gotta work through. | ||
| There's these fucking videos of these people that are on their knees bowing. | ||
| Have you seen this? | ||
| And pledging. | ||
| It's like a church. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're basically apologizing to this group of black people about all racism. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's so hard. | ||
| I told Ben this the other day and then he kind of laughed at me and then I realized that... | ||
| Sorry, I don't want to say that. | ||
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What are you about to say? | |
| Well, I went for a walk in my neighborhood and this was on Saturday. | ||
| This was when things were super heated. | ||
| They still are, but it was kind of like, oh my god, the Grove is on fire. | ||
| Mozo, one of my favorite restaurants, was gone. | ||
| It's charred. | ||
| They lit Mozo on fire? | ||
| Yeah, it's gone. | ||
| They fucking burned. | ||
| Oh no, that's one of my favorite restaurants too. | ||
| Well, too bad. | ||
| How dare you make fun of that? | ||
| But I don't mean to make fun of it. | ||
| That's the whiskey talking. | ||
| It is. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| I'm so sorry. | ||
| No, seriously. | ||
| They'll come back. | ||
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They'll make a pizza again. | |
| Allegedly. | ||
| Pass that whiskey. | ||
| I'm sad now. | ||
| But I was walking around the Silver Lake Reservoir, and I told Ben I had this, like, you know, every black person I passed, I just, like, I felt more love for them than I have ever. | ||
| I mean, I always feel love for everybody. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
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Well, maybe it's just awareness. | |
| I just felt so aware of, like, their road is different than mine right now. | ||
| And I also want them to know, like, hey, I'm standing up for you. | ||
| But also, not every black person wants that. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're like, get the fuck away from me. | ||
| They're like, don't bother me, white people. | ||
| So in terms of white guilt, I don't have white guilt, but I have white awareness. | ||
| And I feel aware. | ||
| And I'm trying to step carefully and not hurt anybody's feelings, because I don't want to do that. | ||
| Listen, you are in no way, shape, or form a racist. | ||
| And I think the problem is the idea that you are until you prove you're not. | ||
| I think you're a beautiful person. | ||
| You're a great person. | ||
| Just keep doing you. | ||
| And if you see black folks, and you guys make eye contact, and they know what the fuck is going on in the world, and you know what the fuck is going on in the world, just say, what's up? | ||
| And they say, what's up? | ||
| And everybody feels good. | ||
| That's a real thing with people. | ||
| It's a weird thing when you run into people, and you don't know, and you go, what's up? | ||
| And they go, hey, what's up? | ||
| And everybody's good. | ||
| It's good for everybody. | ||
| That's what we all need to do. | ||
| That guy's not us. | ||
| That cop that did that, that's not us. | ||
| That's a sick person. | ||
| That's a sick person. | ||
| One of the reasons why we're so angry about that man killing George Floyd is because we know in the darkest of darkest regions of all of our minds that is humanly possible for someone to do. | ||
| We know that, and we hope and pray it's not possible for us to do, or anyone we know, or anyone we love. | ||
| Could you imagine if that was your son? | ||
| Can you imagine if your son was on television, leaning on this man's neck for 8 minutes and 40 seconds? | ||
| You'd be like, what the fuck?! | ||
| What?! | ||
| You'd be like, what did I do wrong?! | ||
| What did I do wrong that I made a monster?! | ||
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Fuck! | |
| Imagine watching that? | ||
| Imagine just freaking out while you put someone into the world that leaned on someone's neck until they died. | ||
| Every person. | ||
| And this is one of the weird parts of being a parent. | ||
| But also, what if they propagated that mentality? | ||
| What if that were the thing? | ||
| Not to throw this into the arena, but things I've been reading are white supremacy infiltration into the police force, and that fucking terrifies me. | ||
| Look, any white supremacy is awful. | ||
| Any racism is awful. | ||
| But what I'm more interested in than any of that is like, what gets a person to be that fucked up? | ||
| Whether it's racist or murderous or ruthless or... | ||
| Deceptive or stealing. | ||
| What gets a person? | ||
| That's what we need to concentrate on. | ||
| Instead of getting mad at the people that fuck up and do terrible shit, which is all justified, but we really need to trace this back publicly. | ||
| Like, what is making a cop kill someone by leaning on his neck for eight and a half minutes? | ||
| It's a mental health issue. | ||
| It is! | ||
| It's also a developmental issue. | ||
| A person, when you're 35 years old, you're kind of an equation. | ||
| There's a lot of you that is just an accumulated gathering of experiences and your interpretation of those experiences along with your genetics, your neighborhood, your family, all the expectations people have on you, and then boom, here you are. | ||
| It's an equation. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| We all are! | ||
| And a huge part of that equation is the system we grew up in, which happens to be fucking racist in a lot of ways, or at least has had trouble dealing with that issue from the very beginning. | ||
| Here's what I would say. | ||
| It's not even. | ||
| You know, when you have these neighborhoods that are traditionally... | ||
| They're suppressed. | ||
| Like when you're talking about Baltimore. | ||
| I had this guy, Michael Wood, on the podcast. | ||
| He was a cop in Baltimore. | ||
| It was one of the weirdest moments of the podcast ever. | ||
| Where he was a cop in like the early 2000s, if I remember correctly. | ||
| Or somewhere in the 2000s. | ||
| And he found this piece of paper... | ||
| That was a docket of all the crimes from like, you know, the 1970s. | ||
| It was all the same shit in the same areas. | ||
| So here he is risking his life. | ||
| Out there with a gun, wading into crime, trying to arrest people, and then he finds this piece of paper and says, oh, this is systemic racism. | ||
| And then he finds out about the red line laws. | ||
| Did you ever see Do the Right Thing, the Spike Lee movie? | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| Same exact thing. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Cop chokes a guy out and kills him. | ||
| And that was 30 years ago. | ||
| I mean, obviously this is going on hundreds of years, but the point is... | ||
| Look, I know a lot of cops, and a lot of them are great people, but they're a lot like soldiers. | ||
| It's not a normal request to ask people to be life or death every day. | ||
| And when you ask people to be life or death every day for a job, you better make sure that you get a Navy SEAL. | ||
| You better make sure you get an Army Ranger. | ||
| You better make sure you get someone who has gone through... | ||
| You don't want that, man. | ||
| You gotta read the horrible shit. | ||
| They killed babies, bro. | ||
| They were ruthless. | ||
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Bad choice, man. | |
| Yeah, they used to roast babies over the fire slowly in front of their parents. | ||
| Difficult context for those people. | ||
| Not a good thing. | ||
| If they caught you, they tortured you. | ||
| They were the kings of torture. | ||
| I'd like a quick death. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want to command your death. | ||
| Me personally. | ||
| I'm telling you, Empire of the Summer Moon. | ||
| It's an incredible book. | ||
| Just get the audiobook. | ||
| Listen to the first week of it and you'll be like, holy fuck. | ||
| Just take it with you when you drive to the store or whatever the fuck you do. | ||
| Because I just go to the store. | ||
| Have you been going out? | ||
| Have you been hiding? | ||
| I've been doing stuff. | ||
| I've been building furniture. | ||
| Are you starting to move back into society again? | ||
| Yeah, I hang out with my friends. | ||
| The coronavirus seems to be less of an issue. | ||
| I... Okay. | ||
| I'm cognizant of the coronavirus. | ||
| The only people I know that have gotten it are in New York. | ||
| I... I work out, I walk, I go to the grocery store, I go to my friend's house, and I build furniture. | ||
| You're building furniture? | ||
| Yeah, I'm building some furniture. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you building it, like, do you have a design that you follow? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I have a walnut shelf I'm building that goes under my TV. Are you a carpenter? | ||
|
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No. | |
| How do you know how to do this? | ||
| You figure it out. | ||
| It's not that hard. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's so cool. | ||
| I mean, my friends have the tools, so I'm really lucky to use them. | ||
| Like, I don't own that stuff. | ||
| But, yeah, I mean, it's not that hard. | ||
| And it's really gratifying to make your own stuff. | ||
| And that's something I've really gotten into just to, you know, keep myself entertained and busy. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, well, that's a good thing. | ||
| That's a good way of using your energy. | ||
| Your energy comes to fork in the road. | ||
| We're all of a sudden, live touring. | ||
| Stop. | ||
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Can't go anywhere. | |
| Joe, it haunts me when I was on here with Gary because we were literally talking about... | ||
| What does the world look like without live music? | ||
| And I'm like, bullshit. | ||
| You can never replace live music and here we are. | ||
| And I've been doing these live shows. | ||
| I started doing Zoom sessions on my website as supplemental income and also just to have that experience with people because any live stream I do is just, you're literally fucking looking at yourself and then comments underneath. | ||
| And I don't get to have this experience where I'm sitting across from someone, even digitally, where, you know, it's like... | ||
|
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Nailed it. | |
| What is that? | ||
|
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Didn't nail it. | |
| Totally didn't nail it. | ||
| I just want a lighter. | ||
| You cave person. | ||
| Love you. | ||
| To everyone watching, I didn't catch that. | ||
| Do you want a blunt, or do you want a joint? | ||
| No, see, this is... | ||
| Dadgrass. | ||
| Yeah, this is... | ||
| Is that my dadgrass? | ||
| That's some bullshit designed by the man to make you sleepy. | ||
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Hey, it doesn't make you sleepy, it makes you cool and chill. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like a blend, so I don't get... | ||
| Come here, pal. | ||
|
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Completely... | |
| Don't hurt me, Joe. | ||
| Put that down. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
|
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Joe, don't hurt Ben. | |
| I will bow to this. | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| Let me smoke my... | ||
| Oh, my God, there's a joint off. | ||
| There's a... | ||
| Jamie, there's a joint off. | ||
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Here, you smoke a little bit of this, I'll smoke a little bit of that. | |
| Split screen! | ||
| Boys are firing up the joints. | ||
| I haven't smoked anything, but I will later. | ||
| I'm already so drunk. | ||
| Look, we all have an obligation. | ||
| To show that smoking pot and drinking whiskey is not for bad people. | ||
| We're all good people. | ||
| We're nice to each other. | ||
| We love each other. | ||
| We get high together. | ||
| We really do. | ||
| Love you guys. | ||
| This is so much fun. | ||
| I love you too. | ||
| I'm so happy. | ||
| When you texted me, first of all, when I saw on Instagram... | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| That was like hyper speed. | ||
| I literally said like, oh shit! | ||
| And I immediately texted you. | ||
| We were like, ah, let's just take this slow. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
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We dip our toe in a fucking tsunami. | |
| Okay, it goes like this. | ||
| Ben and I came by this honestly. | ||
| We... | ||
| Love each other. | ||
| We love our music together. | ||
| We're great friends. | ||
| Two months ago, we're not speaking. | ||
| We weren't just speaking two months ago. | ||
| Mushrooms for everyone! | ||
| And then we started playing together, and it's like, it's too good. | ||
| It's too good, the feeling that we have when we play together. | ||
| And we were going to do... | ||
| Well, we failed this week because... | ||
| Are you kidding me right now? | ||
| I'll do it. | ||
| Count me in. | ||
| This... | ||
| Backtrack for a second. | ||
| We, you know, we're going to do a little podcast this week with each other and just like post a couple songs and it was like a big deal for us and it still is. | ||
| We're going to do it. | ||
| But obviously this week fucking blew up and it wasn't really like lined up. | ||
| But 10 or 15 minutes after we posted on our Honey Honey page that we were going to post some podcast songs, you texted and were like, let's do a podcast! | ||
| And we were like, oh my god! | ||
| And it was just like, like hyperspeed. | ||
| I got bummed out when you guys stopped working together. | ||
| We were too, man. | ||
| I didn't like it. | ||
| But we needed to do it. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| Listen, life takes weird turns. | ||
| It's like a river. | ||
| It goes down the mountain. | ||
|
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It's got to take the right path. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know that one? | ||
| Want some of those? | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
|
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Okay, some of those? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Tell you some of that. | ||
|
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Ben? | |
| It's magic bubblegum. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| I love that poster in the bathroom. | ||
| It's Skynyrd, and then it says, the Stones, it says, the greatest rock and roll band on earth. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| You know, that was what you called them back then. | ||
| Well, for a good reason, man. | ||
| The Stones are interesting. | ||
| In that there's a lot of Stone songs that people forgot. | ||
| There's not a... | ||
| Like, there's some bands... | ||
| You just want to microdose? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's some bands that... | ||
| That's not a microdose, but do you. | ||
| Listen, we gotta make this legal, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We gotta make this legal. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| This is legal. | ||
| What legal? | ||
| We're just eating... | ||
| We're just eating birchwood gum... | ||
| It's from a birch tree. | ||
| Dear God. | ||
| Yeah, just shut it down if it gets... | ||
| Don't put any... | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna put that back. | ||
| I'm gonna do these. | ||
| I love Pez. | ||
| And dump. | ||
| We're gonna dump it. | ||
| We gotta protect people. | ||
| Protect people from assholes. | ||
| And we gotta let people do the shit they enjoy doing. | ||
| Joe, we love you so much. | ||
| I love you guys too. | ||
| This is so nice. | ||
| All things considered, the world is in a crazy place and this is one of the best feelings I've had in a very long time. | ||
| Well, I always enjoy you guys. | ||
| I enjoy seeing you. | ||
| I enjoy listening to your music when you're not around. | ||
| I listen to you guys all the time. | ||
| I listen to you guys when I work out. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| I listen to you guys when I'm on trips. | ||
| You guys are cool as fuck. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Hey, we listen to you, too. | ||
| Truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Music is an interesting thing. | ||
| You put words together that change the state of people's consciousness. | ||
| You put tones together and you have rhythms and sounds and it invades people's minds and it changes who they are. | ||
| And some songs are really indicative of the times. | ||
| I think it was Snoop Dogg had Marvin Gaye. | ||
| It was a live version of What's that song? | ||
| Jogan sings! | ||
| You sound so good! | ||
| Damn, Joe Rogan! | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Marvin Gaye. | ||
| And you listen to it and you're like, wow, I don't know what it was like back then. | ||
| I was too young. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| But I hope it's better now. | ||
| I feel like it is. | ||
| I feel like there's something about these marches. | ||
| You've got to take the looting out of the picture. | ||
| Because I think if you want to follow the ideology of determinism, however you got there, there's a combination of a bunch of things that are probably out of your control, and who you are, and where you're from, and who your dad was, and who your mom was. | ||
| Hey, you are bang! | ||
| But... | ||
| There's something about when you hear a song from 1971 or some shit like that, and you realize we're still dealing with the same shit in 2020 that really makes you worry that we're not going to get it right. | ||
| I didn't think you were going to go that way with it. | ||
| No, no, really. | ||
| No bullshit. | ||
| I think there's beauty in the fact that everybody's gotten together and they're rising up against it. | ||
| And they realize, this is enough, it's enough, it's enough! | ||
| It's so enough! | ||
| It's sooo enough! | ||
| But you gotta worry. | ||
| You gotta worry that shit would go sideways when you see the looting. | ||
| There's a lot of it is that there's like this weird battle going on. | ||
| A battle between logic and anger. | ||
| You know? | ||
| People raise well and people raise poorly. | ||
| People are mad and people are happy and everyone's together. | ||
| In a big soup of equilibrium, trying to find your way to the steady ground, trying to figure it all out. | ||
| Most people just don't. | ||
| And we're involved in that as much as we're involved in any other aspect of this. | ||
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We're all just trying to figure out life. | |
| But all these things are information. | ||
| And yeah, of course, how can we know? | ||
| You've got no idea what's going to happen. | ||
| But it's all information to apply to the situation. | ||
| People are looting. | ||
| Okay, among a range of factions, there's economic problems and we've got to fucking... | ||
| Yeah, it's a perfect storm. | ||
| Well, I think the thing is, like, we have to try to find each other's perspectives. | ||
| And that's really hard for some people to do. | ||
| And in one of the really wonderful people I spoke to this weekend, really gave me an insight that I never would have had. | ||
| And this gentleman lives in Texas. | ||
| And he had something to say about I posted a good cop video. | ||
| I posted a video of a cop praying with a black woman and it was really beautiful and I saw that video. | ||
| And I got a lot of crap for it. | ||
| I got a lot of heat and I'm trying to find the middle ground of some of my also police force friends that actually one of our really good friends texted today to talk about how horrified he was that his city had gassed people and he's a lieutenant colonel of a very big city. | ||
| Retired now. | ||
| And he said he was depressed. | ||
| He didn't know what to do. | ||
| And I got to think about him because he's a good man. | ||
| And in that respect, this gentleman who reached out to me very kindly, and I'm so grateful for it. | ||
| Here's why I don't like you posting that video of that happy cop scenario. | ||
| He said because I grew up in poverty. | ||
| I slept in the bed with my dad till I was 10 because we didn't have another bed. | ||
| There were holes in our walls. | ||
| We didn't have food. | ||
| He said cops weren't playing basketball with me in my neighborhood. | ||
| If anything, I would see them beat up my friends and I couldn't do anything about it. | ||
| He said I'm angry and I don't want to see that right now. | ||
| And I really respect that. | ||
| That was a perspective I didn't have. | ||
| And he also said, hey, I've done things in my life that I wasn't proud of. | ||
| All I could think of in my life was getting out of this place that I lived in. | ||
| And he admitted to stealing things, theft, and to get his life in a place that he needed to get out of. | ||
| And he's out. | ||
| And it was a perspective... | ||
| For looting that I never would have had. | ||
| You know, looting is mania at this point. | ||
| Like, I'm not sure, like, it's so many things. | ||
| It's just a fucking vomitus of, like, either people trying to cause trouble, anarchy, people just trying to be heard. | ||
| Outlook on it, which is a guy framing it, saying these are people who can't take part. | ||
| In consumer economy. | ||
| That's a great framing. | ||
| Yeah, and that should be recognized. | ||
| I don't think that's the answer, but I see you, and that's the thing. | ||
| It's like these people want to be seen. | ||
| They want to be hugged. | ||
| Yeah, and I want to fucking hug them. | ||
| Everybody wants to be loved. | ||
| Do you know who Robert Sapolsky is? | ||
| You ever heard of him? | ||
| He's a professor at Stanford. | ||
| And he's done some really interesting work on primates and baboons and that toxoplasma shit that we were talking about before. | ||
| But one of the things that he was talking about, I had a podcast with him a couple years back and He's a really interesting guy. | ||
| He was saying that in the future he thinks that one of the biggest mistakes that they'll look back on with us is that we didn't understand how a human being comes to be the person they are today and how many factors are out of their control. | ||
| And we try to pretend that everybody is that. | ||
| I'm paraphrasing greatly, but it was basically that human beings are responsible for their own actions. | ||
| And that collectively, we all influence each other's actions. | ||
| We're all different people around each other. | ||
| We're different people. | ||
| It's one of the things that's the most important thing about having really good friends. | ||
| Like, really good, important, awesome friends. | ||
| They literally make you better just being around them. | ||
| They make you feel better. | ||
| They make you love better. | ||
| You become a nicer person if you have exceptional friends. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're all weirdly connected. | ||
| Like, weirdly. | ||
| And we don't understand it. | ||
| So when something like this happens, everybody's like, let's march in the street. | ||
| Like, yes, let's march. | ||
| We feel good that we're all out there together. | ||
| We feel good that we all agree. | ||
| We feel good. | ||
| And then there's some people that disagree and there's some people that say stupid shit. | ||
| There's some people that get canceled. | ||
| We're all trying to right the ship. | ||
| We're all like, just fucking stay. | ||
| In the boat! | ||
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Stay in the boat! | |
| We're all like holding on the boat of civilization. | ||
|
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We're gonna be okay! | |
| We love each other! | ||
| We don't have to worry, maybe. | ||
| There's plenty of food! | ||
| Plenty of roofs! | ||
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We can do this! | |
| Put the toilet paper! | ||
| This one dude's going to Mars! | ||
| We gotta get the game right. | ||
| We gotta get the game right. | ||
| Some people can't start the game. | ||
| If you play Monopoly and a dude starts out with a billion dollars, that's fucked up, man. | ||
| Oh, I just played Monopoly. | ||
| You got a billion dollars? | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| I just played Monopoly on Mushrooms like a month ago before I had to do this sober thing. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| And my one friend was dominating the whole game, and I was getting more and more bitter and angry. | ||
| And she had so many fucking hotels, that bitch. | ||
| She killed us. | ||
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You gotta accept the fact that that's just how the game works. | |
| Don't hate the player. | ||
| But the irony of it is like, oh god, okay, noted, got it. | ||
| Because I'm like, every time she's like, I'll buy that, I was like, bitch. | ||
| That fucking bitch. | ||
| She doesn't need that. | ||
| It's a fake game! | ||
| It's a fake game! | ||
| But is it? | ||
| Is it? | ||
| But is it? | ||
| Deep. | ||
| I need to own some property. | ||
| One day. | ||
| One day. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing about all of us. | ||
| We just thrust into this game. | ||
| We realized we were playing it while we're up and running. | ||
| We're up and running. | ||
| Learn how to walk. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| You're in a game! | ||
| What kind of game? | ||
| The rat race. | ||
| It's the rat race. | ||
| The guy, the gentleman who... | ||
| I swear to God I'm having deja vu. | ||
| I feel like I talked about this last time I was here. | ||
| But the guy who wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad created a game called... | ||
| It's like the Rat Race. | ||
| And it's how you economically get out of your debt and your spiraling investments or whatever. | ||
| And then you get to the big leagues. | ||
| I mean, that's America. | ||
| That's the trajectory. | ||
| That's the America that we like. | ||
| That's the Eagle. | ||
| It's not exactly. | ||
| That's the Eagle. | ||
| And the Eagle is a fucking vulture. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| The Rock. | ||
| In real life. | ||
| The Rock 2024 is going to take care of all that. | ||
|
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Yes! | |
| I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| This eagle vulture bullshit. | ||
| I'm going to be gross for a minute. | ||
| I just want him to pick me up. | ||
| He could definitely pick you up. | ||
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That's it. | |
| I just want to be held. | ||
| He could pick you up and probably not even know he picked you up. | ||
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Great. | |
| That's all I want. | ||
| I don't want to be weird. | ||
| Who's this person? | ||
| I'm a tall girl and it's like, I just want to pick me up. | ||
| All bullshit aside, I take a lot of inspiration from- Clothes on! | ||
| Clothes on! | ||
| You're friends. | ||
| We all get it. | ||
| We're all just friends. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| I take inspiration from that guy. | ||
| Legitimately, I'm joking around earlier about what I said, but I'm also being honest. | ||
| I believe what I'm saying. | ||
| No, I think he's a wonderful person. | ||
| Unusual. | ||
| He's unusual. | ||
| I shouldn't objectify him as a big, strong man. | ||
| He's also a really good person. | ||
| Yeah, you fucking sexist! | ||
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I'm an asshole, and I'm sorry for telling everyone... | |
| That is unacceptable. | ||
| You've heteronormative Tim... | ||
| I think it worked. | ||
| We're going with it. | ||
| No, that's not a fucking new word. | ||
| That's real. | ||
| No, I almost was smart. | ||
| It's an important part of gender theory, you piece of shit. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| Write another thing that rhymes, you fucking asshole. | ||
|
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I'll write a letter of apology. | |
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Part of the problem. | ||
|
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I am part of the problem. | |
| White silence is white violence. | ||
| We're going to be okay. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| We're gonna be okay. | ||
| We all want everybody to be okay. | ||
| We just gotta get over this, man, as a species. | ||
| The human species. | ||
| We gotta get over all our ripples. | ||
| Yeah, the sensitivities though, that thing is like, you're this or you're that. | ||
| The superlative talk is gonna fucking get us nowhere. | ||
| And I saw a t-shirt that I loved. | ||
| And it was in a photograph and it said, not left, not right, but forward. | ||
| And like this whole bipartisan stuff, like you can't, if you can just take a minute and listen to each other with an open heart, it's so hard for people, but it's really not. | ||
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It's really fucking not that hard. | |
| No one's taught them how to do it. | ||
| That's why it's not hard. | ||
| It's hard to learn that. | ||
| It is. | ||
| We mimic and everything else. | ||
| If you want to learn how to play guitar, you learn from people who knew how to play the guitar. | ||
| If you want to learn how to do archery, like Geena Davis, you learn from people who know how to do archery. | ||
| We don't apply that To how you view the world. | ||
| People can't accept things. | ||
| These teachers are usually our parents, and not everybody initially has a great hand when it comes to that, and they don't. | ||
| You said earlier, it just makes me think about us. | ||
| We had a terrible time communicating with each other. | ||
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Fucking sucked! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, that wasn't easy. | ||
| We've been to therapy. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| 12 years. | ||
| And who knows if we're over. | ||
| We could fucking go down after this. | ||
| Please don't. | ||
| Let's not. | ||
| Let's keep it going. | ||
| Let's keep it going. | ||
| Keep it going. | ||
| Bam or titties? | ||
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Titties! | |
| But the point is... | ||
| No, that's not mine. | ||
| That's yours. | ||
| I don't want that one. | ||
| You take that one. | ||
| You take Bam. | ||
| I'll take titties. | ||
| It just made me think what you're saying. | ||
| It is not easy. | ||
| You know, and it's something that it's taken a long time and experience for us to be able to even communicate. | ||
| I feel like you set me up to, like, our relationship has set me up to, like, face adversity in the world because we have fought so much, but we love each other so much. | ||
| And at the end of the day, we just want to hear each other out. | ||
| And that's the thing with people that are aggressive or disagreeing with your rhetoric. | ||
| Like, they just want to be heard, and so do you. | ||
| So, like, with that said... | ||
| It's a time to have as much patience as you can possibly muster with healthy boundaries. | ||
| But, you know, I really have gotten a lot out of speaking to people on social media lately, literally speaking, not just comments. | ||
| And I'm learning and I'm growing and I'm grateful and I've fallen on my fucking face. | ||
| People telling me things that I never would have thought of. | ||
| It's so humbling. | ||
| Because like, ultimately, I want to help. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| I don't want to see another black person get murdered by a police officer in a video ever again, as well as all of the other things that everybody wants to talk about. | ||
| We're all coming up. | ||
| I think we all agree. | ||
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We do. | |
| No one disagrees. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what's unique about this time. | ||
| I think everybody's looking at this and going, yeah, there's obviously problems. | ||
| There's real problems. | ||
| We're seeing it in the cops that are treating the people that are peacefully protesting. | ||
| Like, you can't do that. | ||
| No one's doing anything wrong. | ||
| Here's what's crazy. | ||
| They're letting people loot, but they're fucking shooting tear gas at people that are just standing there saying the system's fucked. | ||
| Yeah, that's the information. | ||
| And, like, there's so many details of, you know, we were speaking earlier about police officers and, like, their instability, like, their mental dysfunctional aspects, and, like, that needs to be addressed in, like... | ||
| It's not brought up at all. | ||
| We just expect them. | ||
| We just expect them to be superhuman. | ||
| They're not human. | ||
| And that's our fault, too. | ||
| If you are in credit card debt, you're freaking out and you can get fucking therapy. | ||
| But if you're a cop and you're seeing people get shot in the face every day, you're like, suck it up, pig. | ||
| We barely pay attention. | ||
| We barely pay attention to them. | ||
| So when they go hate-wire, you know those three guys that sat around while that guy kneeled on that dude's neck, like, what do you charge those guys with? | ||
| You know, there's been a real movement to say... | ||
| I wonder how old they were when they joined the force. | ||
| Like, were they kids when they joined the force? | ||
| It's like a fraternity? | ||
| Are they that hateful? | ||
| It's a hundred percent a thing that... | ||
| When you're in it, you're surrounded by people who are there to protect you if shit hits the fan. | ||
| There's a brotherhood that's involved in the police force. | ||
| If I had to guess what's wrong with the police force, but what is right about the Navy SEALs, is that one of them, it's really difficult to get into. | ||
| Like, if you meet a person, and that person is a Navy SEAL, that motherfucker can take some shit. | ||
| He has a strong mind. | ||
| He's figured out a way to navigate the maze of consciousness to go further than most people are capable of doing. | ||
| But that's not everybody who's a cop. | ||
| So there's a lot of people who are cops who are just bitches. | ||
| They're just bitches. | ||
| And they just got a job as a cop. | ||
| And they have to work with guys like The Rock! | ||
| They're right alongside The Rock! | ||
| And they're bitches! | ||
| No, but you're so right. | ||
| There's a validation in that badge. | ||
| There's a validation. | ||
| And if it's not actually a genuine... | ||
| Part of your integrity, then that's a fucking scary place for all of us. | ||
| It's one of the hardest jobs the world's ever known. | ||
| It's a really, really hard job being a cop. | ||
| Big fan of Killer Mike's review board idea. | ||
| Like, bringing back review boards where the community... | ||
| I've never disagreed with anything Killer Mike's ever said, ever. | ||
| He should be president. | ||
| Did you see Obama's thing? | ||
| He's so powerful. | ||
| The way he speaks... | ||
| I did not want to be here, and I don't want to do this. | ||
| You're like, God damn. | ||
| You see his TV show? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's who he is. | ||
| There's no filter. | ||
| That's who he is. | ||
| I really, really hope I get to meet him sometime. | ||
| I'll introduce you. | ||
| I will die. | ||
| Next time those guys are here, I think we're supposed to do something. | ||
| I love both those dudes. | ||
| They're so important in this time. | ||
| There's no bullshit. | ||
| There's no bullshit. | ||
| If you want Killer Mike, it's right there. | ||
| Killer Mike's right there. | ||
| There's no filters. | ||
| Positive, negative, good, bad, son of a cop. | ||
| Talks about the Second Amendment and the need for handguns. | ||
| But it was also super progressive. | ||
| He and I both were like, let's get Bernie Sanders in this thing. | ||
| Let's see what the fuck happens. | ||
| If you get someone who redistributes wealth... | ||
| We're finding out now there's trillions of dollars. | ||
| We're gonna fix a fucking REI. We're gonna bail out Starbucks. | ||
| We found all this money. | ||
| Gotta save REI, for fuck's sake. | ||
| Did you see that where he's making porn where people are teaching people to fix their home appliances and stuff like that? | ||
| He was like, I'm gonna make a series of YouTube videos so people can learn how to be handy around their home. | ||
| Killer Mike, that is. | ||
| And he's like, but people don't pay attention to anything except porn. | ||
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So I'm going to make a bunch of porn that you see how to fix your sink. | |
| It's so good. | ||
| Porn is like human, right? | ||
| What is human? | ||
| Human is the weird, the contrast of what we want you to believe, but what we really are. | ||
| Porn's the best example of that. | ||
| How many people are at work talking about porn? | ||
| How about zero? | ||
| It might be like the same amount of people that catch corona and die. | ||
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How many people talking about porn at work? | |
| It ruins your sex life psychologically because there's no correlation between that and real life sex. | ||
| Just from the digital stimulation. | ||
| It really messes people up. | ||
| I think that's like saying, like, whiskey ruined your life. | ||
| No, you ruined your life, stupid. | ||
| Don't blame whiskey. | ||
| Whiskey's been great for me. | ||
| Me and whiskey have had a great relationship. | ||
| We made it work. | ||
| Yeah, we made it work. | ||
| We had a good time. | ||
| There's probably a lot of dudes out there that understand the abracadabra of porn, and they want to stay on the outside edges of the dangerous fear of control. | ||
| And they just hang in the background. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I think porn is like heroin. | ||
| You should be able to do it, but you probably shouldn't. | ||
| And you're not going to be able to stop. | ||
| Keep it together! | ||
| That should be your goal. | ||
| Keep it together! | ||
| It all comes down to accountability. | ||
| Period. | ||
| I love whiskey. | ||
| It's weird how many people are fucking on video. | ||
| If you really stop and think about it, it's like... | ||
| They're doing it right now. | ||
| It's barely even unusual. | ||
| It's barely unusual. | ||
| The amount of sheer porn, like, I used to have a joke about it, it was like, why are they still making porn? | ||
| Has anybody ever seen it at all? | ||
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Could they stop now and let us catch up? | |
| I wanted to die thinking I missed the hottest scene ever because there's too much goddamn content, you gluttons. | ||
| Just out there fucking every day, filming it. | ||
| Never enough. | ||
| It's like music, though. | ||
| I mean, we're getting, like, across the board, we're getting schooled right now. | ||
| Like, all of those, like, quote-unquote comforts or whatever, you know, we're going to funnel our energy into, like, all that shit is, like, fading out. | ||
| Like, we're being restructured. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the Matrix. | ||
| I think we're learning how to be adults. | ||
| We're learning what's important. | ||
| Like, who's far enough ahead on this weird race that you can stop and go, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! | ||
| Let's stop and work out the resources! | ||
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We're gonna eat! | |
| We're running too far! | ||
| This is not necessary! | ||
| We're getting crazy! | ||
| We only live to be 100! | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Let's be nice to each other! | ||
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Shit! | |
| Why are we mad? | ||
| There's plenty of food. | ||
| It just needs to be distributed. | ||
| There's plenty of money. | ||
| We just need to figure out how to fix it. | ||
| What do you think that is? | ||
| The panic? | ||
| And I really say this honestly. | ||
| Like, no, I don't want to be raped and murdered. | ||
| I don't want my home to be invaded. | ||
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But what is this need to... | |
| Jump over each other, take all the toilet paper. | ||
| Because we're in competition. | ||
| Right, but more so. | ||
| I want to know... | ||
| But that's the whole thing. | ||
| Competition for what? | ||
| To survive? | ||
| For resources, to survive, for attention, for money, for prominence. | ||
| We've always done that. | ||
| Well, it's what you were talking about earlier with these fears that are kind of buried deep in our genetics. | ||
| We're still dealing with software that's 100,000 years old. | ||
| I also think there's two things playing out at the same time. | ||
| There's this sexual thing. | ||
| Where human beings are attracted to each other and you're trying to figure out how to choose mates. | ||
| And then there's this, like, whatever intrigues you thing. | ||
| There's like, you want people to like you. | ||
| If you're gay, you want gay dudes to like you. | ||
| If you're straight, you want a straight woman to like you. | ||
| And you also want to figure out this thing. | ||
| This thing that you're doing. | ||
| What's the thing you're doing? | ||
| Are you playing tennis? | ||
| What do you do, man? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| You paint? | ||
| I love tennis. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Are you a chess master? | ||
| What's your fucking expression? | ||
| What's your mode of expression? | ||
| And through your singing, particularly you, you're right here. | ||
| My friend, I know who you are. | ||
| Because there's a way you sing where you figure out a way to get it all out in these tones. | ||
| And that's what makes singing so exciting for people who can't sing and for people who love to listen. | ||
| There's a thing where they're getting... | ||
| It's like you're figuring out a way... | ||
| To use a special lens to look right into a person and find out, like, what is that person when they're at their lowest? | ||
| What is it when they're at their highest? | ||
| And what is this when they're really passionate about something? | ||
| What is that expression? | ||
| And it comes through in this weird melody, this weird sound that you can make with your voice. | ||
| But what you're doing is you're showing people who you are. | ||
| It's showing people who you are through the sound that you can make and these words and we use those sounds and those words as this like translator to figure out what you're really feeling and what you're really thinking. | ||
| When it's wrapped up in your lyrics, the thing that's fascinating about it is how you guys are so tight, and you love each other so much. | ||
| And you're putting words together, and you're singing these words, and you're all putting it together in this music. | ||
| LA River is one of my favorite songs ever. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And one of the reasons why is because it's so indicative about the beauty. | ||
| I thought I saw a body in the weeds. | ||
| Like, that's a part of a beautiful song. | ||
| I thought I saw a body in the weeds. | ||
| Do you want to talk about the fact that it was put on a... | ||
| Oh, we had this great moment where this TV show used the song in this, like, romantic marriage. | ||
| It was a marriage scene. | ||
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It was a wedding. | |
| And it just showed you, they don't listen to the fucking song. | ||
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Like, that song is L.A. That song is L.A. It was a wedding scene in that song. | |
| Yeah, and they go, thought I saw a body in the weeds. | ||
| We're like, okay. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Had to hop a chain link fence. | ||
| I went down to the banks of the LA River, had to hop a chain link fence. | ||
| Hey, we got props to Ben Jaffe. | ||
| He wrote that song like fourth quarter of Billy Jack when we were doing that record. | ||
| We were putting all our songs together and he wrote that very quickly and brought it to the table and it was beautiful. | ||
| And you know what else also is like when you guys had just moved here. | ||
| You know, so there's part of you saying, oh, I love my new home. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, I hate wanting to abandon L.A., but I hate when things get really big and they're run by people who haven't done mushrooms. | ||
| It bothers me. | ||
| Well, how do we get the mushrooms, Joe? | ||
| How do we do it? | ||
| I don't think they know what they're talking about. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I don't think they're projecting the right- Garcetti? | ||
| All of them! | ||
| I don't even want to say anybody's name. | ||
| Get your shit together, Garcetti. | ||
| This is what I think. | ||
| I think we all need to understand there's a lot of messages that can be conveyed right now. | ||
| And you can't just constantly worry about what your side thinks. | ||
| We gotta figure out some way to get through this where we're all better off than we were before it started. | ||
| And it can be done It can be done. | ||
| They can all do it. | ||
| It can be done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's being done in a lot of places. | ||
| It is! | ||
| This is a fucking breakthrough moment. | ||
| All the looting and the riots, it'll be in history. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| It's horrible that it happened. | ||
| But this explosion that happened, we got a real shot at moving things forward in a really powerful way. | ||
| We got a real shot right now. | ||
| Well, when people are uncomfortable, and we are really uncomfortable, that's when things move. | ||
| Because there's action. | ||
| You can't just sit in it, and no one likes to be uncomfortable, so what the fuck are you gonna do? | ||
| 100% with everything in life. | ||
| Like, if you have a bad moment in life, It feels terrible. | ||
| And that is life's way. | ||
| If you're playing this weird game of good and bad and love and hate and what feels amazing, what feels terrible. | ||
| You follow that. | ||
| You follow whatever that is. | ||
| You follow whatever that feeling is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's back to Joey Diaz, though, a little bit, too. | ||
| It's like you have these monumental moments in your life, and how do you grow from them? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I have no disrespect, but I've always had a really hard time relating to people that are like, I've never been through anything difficult. | ||
| Life's been great. | ||
| I'm just sort of like... | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Which probably isn't even true. | ||
| But this is what I think we all need to consider. | ||
| It's not their call. | ||
| They didn't say, hey, I don't want Suzanne to have this fucking dope-ass life in Beverly Hills. | ||
| Fuck that shit. | ||
| I don't live in Beverly Hills and I'm on unemployment, let's be clear. | ||
| Move that bitch to Van Nuys. | ||
| Move that bitch to Van Nuys and let's do some cocaine! | ||
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I know where my limit is with my unemployment. | |
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Musicians. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I do know what you're saying. | ||
| It's not your call. | ||
| It's not their call. | ||
| Yeah, it's idealism. | ||
| Paris Hilton didn't want to be Paris Hilton. | ||
| She was thrust into this. | ||
| Wow, remember her? | ||
| More ways than one. | ||
| Of course I do. | ||
| That's why I brought her up. | ||
| No, I know, but I was like, wow, that's the name. | ||
| I saw Zoolander. | ||
| I told you. | ||
| I saw Zoolander last night. | ||
| I told you. | ||
| Little cameo. | ||
| I saw her last night. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| It awakened me. | ||
| Can we talk about 21 Jump Street? | ||
| I hate to say this because it's almost like counter-competitive, which is a lot of what America is. | ||
| There's some weird competition that fuels innovation. | ||
| But I think it's like anything else. | ||
| You should only go so fast. | ||
| If you're going around a racetrack, you should only go as fast as you can go without sliding off the road and slamming into the fucking trees. | ||
| But it can be done. | ||
| It's been done. | ||
| You can navigate it. | ||
| And I think we need to figure out how much gas we need to give life. | ||
| Yeah, and if your objective needs to be to get around it fast, that isn't the only... | ||
| We're so driven into that mentality. | ||
| Sometimes it's nice to just have a nice drive. | ||
| Cruising. | ||
| What a nice treat. | ||
| A nice drive. | ||
| Especially in the convertible. | ||
| It's fucking chilling, man. | ||
| These days I've been really excited to drive, but also you can't stop and pee anywhere, so you can't go too far for me as a lady. | ||
| I was like, I want to drive with PCH, and I've done it, and then I was like, oh my god, I have to pee, and there's nowhere to pee. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Because there's also a pandemic. | ||
| I wish it was safe to drive on mushrooms. | ||
| I wish it was like 100%. | ||
| It's like Starbucks. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, go ahead. | |
| I just walk on mushrooms. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| But if people said, no, it's actually statistically been proven that you operate faster and more coherent while on mushrooms. | ||
| So please, take as much as you want. | ||
| What's going on in Denver? | ||
|
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It's decriminalized. | |
| Moving on. | ||
| I believe they're voting on it. | ||
| Oh, so it's still up in the air. | ||
| I believe, right? | ||
| Is it okay if we turn the AC down a little bit? | ||
| Is that okay? | ||
| Impossible. | ||
| We're going to light a fire in this room, Ben Jaffe. | ||
| What are you scared of? | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| Scared of marijuana? | ||
| You know what? | ||
|
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When I smoke something, I get... | |
| Yeah, man, that's what it's for. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| This is 75 degrees in here? | ||
| It ain't shit, right, Jamie? | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| Just say it, bro. | ||
| No way, come on. | ||
| I just want to say, even though I'm embarrassed about this, but Jamie and I, we did an NAD drip the other day, and he got there faster than me. | ||
| First time, I beat him. | ||
| He beat me. | ||
| Dang. | ||
| Smoked him, actually. | ||
| I didn't realize. | ||
| He beat me by like four minutes, right? | ||
| Four solid minutes. | ||
|
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Way... | |
| It's like five times faster than I've ever done it. | ||
| Yeah, he went full out. | ||
| I don't know exactly what that is, but it seems... | ||
| It's some ridiculous thing that we do every week. | ||
| This is what's interesting about Jamie. | ||
| It's like we... | ||
| There's a thing you do. | ||
| It's called an NAD drip. | ||
| I forget what it's called. | ||
| I forget the actual scientific terminology. | ||
| But it's basically some... | ||
| What would be the best way to describe it? | ||
| I don't want to fuck this up. | ||
| What is NAD specifically? | ||
| I want to Wikipedia this. | ||
| I don't want to ruin it. | ||
| I want the real information. | ||
| But the idea behind it is it helps your immune system, it helps your body recover. | ||
| So this is a drip as an intravenous? | ||
| Yeah, IV. And also, I do an IV vitamin bag. | ||
| And Jamie and I start doing this every week. | ||
|
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Here it is. | |
| It feels amazing, man. | ||
| NAD is helpful for individuals undergoing therapy for substance abuse and addiction recovery. | ||
| This treatment reduces cravings and withdrawal symptoms, provides energy to the body, and boosts brain regeneration. | ||
| NAD IV treatments can assist with addiction recovery. | ||
| But there's some other benefits, too. | ||
| That's just one of them, but it is really good for that, apparently. | ||
| It's really good for addiction recovery. | ||
| So it's a synthetic compound? | ||
| Yeah, I guess it must be, right? | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Synthetic's a weird word. | ||
| It's like organic. | ||
| What's organic? | ||
|
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Is your piss organic? | |
| Here's a bottle of organic piss. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| If you have antibiotics, is your piss organic? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| You might be a fraudster. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Words are confusing, Joe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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There's a lot of them. | |
| They're hard to pin down. | ||
| That's what the Buddhists say. | ||
| That's what the Buddhists say. | ||
| They're like, most problems, it's with words. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And they're right. | ||
| That is what it is, right? | ||
| That's what I was saying earlier. | ||
| Words convey intent. | ||
| That's what they're supposed to do. | ||
| I want to know what you think. | ||
| I want to know if you think mean or if you're just making a mistake in the way you communicate what you think. | ||
| Well, yeah, and I'll say, I don't know if words convey intent, because they're usually not that nuanced. | ||
| No. | ||
| They convey an agreement, which is, okay, this is whatever the fuck this thing is called. | ||
| Here's a microphone. | ||
| That's a rat. | ||
| This is a skunk. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's a tree. | ||
| Intent is much more difficult to communicate, especially talking about digital communication. | ||
| I need to see you, how your body moves, how you're looking at me, all this shit. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Yeah, we all, I mean, that's the thing. | ||
| That's why the threat of being canceled is so scary for people, right? | ||
| We don't ever want people to be mad at us. | ||
| Because if we did something wrong and people are mad at us, if it makes sense, we're like, oh my god, I made a mistake and everyone knows! | ||
|
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Ah! | |
| I got no friends! | ||
| But we've got to be real careful with what we get mad at and what we don't get mad at. | ||
| And here's a great example that fucking everyone, I'm not taking credit for this thought, everyone has had this thought. | ||
| It is so fucking insane that you could get arrested for opening your business just a couple of weeks ago, and you don't get arrested for looting that very same business. | ||
| Last week or fucking Friday night, like, what happened? | ||
| You were gonna put that guy in jail! | ||
| What hits close to home for me is Long Beach, 10th Planet. | ||
| 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, Long Beach. | ||
| I never trained there, but it's in a 10th Planet family. | ||
| 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, I started out in Hollywood, and now they're in downtown LA. But there's a bunch of them. | ||
| My brother Eddie Bravo has like, I don't know how many gyms he has all over the world, but one of them just burned to the ground in Long Beach for no reason. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Laws are made of words. | ||
| Words don't make sense. | ||
| That doesn't make sense. | ||
| What doesn't make sense is that anybody's frustration bounces off the wall of reality to the point where people get victimized that had nothing to do with your pain. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of friendly fire happening right now. | ||
| I think we all want a lot of the same things. | ||
| And in that respect, I'm looking for my Orbitz gum because I'd like to chew it. | ||
| But in that respect, you have such a solid point. | ||
| The ridiculousness of the logic is fucking overwhelming. | ||
| Everyone's kind of saying the same thing, but they're still fighting. | ||
| And you're like, okay. | ||
| Someone, someone needs to get on television and tell the looters and tell all the people that have stole shit, we forgive you. | ||
| Let's start from scratch. | ||
| Just let it go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You fucked up. | ||
| You got caught up in this crazy wave. | ||
| And a lot of people say, fuck that! | ||
|
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They need to pay! | |
| Maybe they do. | ||
| But is that better for everybody? | ||
| It's better for everybody is everybody realize what the fuck just happened. | ||
| We collectively lost our marbles as a society. | ||
| America collectively lost its marbles. | ||
| Well, and there's some marbles that have been missing the whole fucking time. | ||
| And there's some marbles that are being pushed around. | ||
| Pushed around by shadow characters. | ||
| Shadowy actors. | ||
|
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It's true! | |
| It's so dark! | ||
| It's so dark and I'm glad you brought that up. | ||
| Yes, there's darkness. | ||
| There's 100% agent provocateurs. | ||
| This has been the idea that this is not going to happen today. | ||
| It's one of the most provocative and engaging encounters in the history of civilization as we know it in recorded media, right? | ||
| What year other than 2020? | ||
| What year can fuck with 2020 when it comes to all this shit happening together all at once, coronavirus, three-month lockdown of the world? | ||
| I think the onset of World War I and the Spanish flu could probably be like, suck our dicks. | ||
| Close in terms of bodies and all that, but we haven't realized the amount of time that that took place in. | ||
| We never would have imagined in 2020, where we are here in June, that we would be here. | ||
| If I came to you In December. | ||
|
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And I said, bro, I'm going to tell you some crazy shit. | |
| I've been thinking about that. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| It made me think of something you were saying earlier, too. | ||
| I was at this talk. | ||
| It was about civilization collapse. | ||
|
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Where was it? | |
| It was at the Getty Museum. | ||
| And the thing I took away from it was, this guy says, the future is here. | ||
| It's just not evenly distributed. | ||
|
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Whoa. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So, you're talking about 2020 and the insanity of it. | ||
| If you're living in Syria right now, you're like, what? | ||
| You know, we've been living in a different... | ||
| The point being, all these different contexts, it's so hard to relate to ones other than what we perceive to be our own. | ||
| Yeah, that's a great way of putting it. | ||
| Yeah, and it's hopeful and intimidating. | ||
| And I think there's real limitations. | ||
| We're hoping that we understand how you really feel when you say something. | ||
| We're hoping. | ||
| I think I got it! | ||
| Say it again! | ||
| Say it again the same way! | ||
| You know, it's like we have different ways of saying things. | ||
| As soon as you have different ways of saying things, but yet you maintain that if you said, I can take it and put it in print and everybody can know exactly what you said. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| There's no trust. | ||
| You can't do that anymore. | ||
| There's no trust. | ||
| We need Elon Musk's brain drill. | ||
| Bring it in! | ||
| But we need to be nice to him so he doesn't think everyone's attacking him. | ||
| He's going to be okay. | ||
| I'll mediate. | ||
| I love that dude. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| He really is a good guy. | ||
| Tescalade, hello! | ||
| You know what I thought though? | ||
| She's got his, sorry Elon, his old car registration up on her fridge. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| I want to talk about this. | ||
| You guys bought, for Honey Honey, the Cadillac Escalade. | ||
| Well, who knows? | ||
| Maybe he had a bunch of them. | ||
| I'm sure he did! | ||
| He has eight homes in Bel Air. | ||
| He's like, I don't want a home anymore. | ||
| Oh, how convenient. | ||
| You have eight of them, you fuck. | ||
|
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It's literally on the side of my fridge, the registration. | |
| It says Elon Musk. | ||
| Bro, he bought Mars. | ||
| That's what this is all about. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He bought it. | ||
| It was for sale. | ||
| But you know what I thought? | ||
| I was in that same podcast. | ||
| He says, I could either be designing my perfect home or Or I could get us to Mars. | ||
| I was like, why don't you design your perfect home too, maybe? | ||
| Because we'll probably figure out some cool shit. | ||
| Because Hyperloop. | ||
| He's got to put the Hyperloop together. | ||
| He's trying to make a new Tesla. | ||
| He's got a Roadster. | ||
| He's got a Cybertruck. | ||
| He can do both. | ||
| Like a toilet or something. | ||
| We need that. | ||
| He just needs a back massage. | ||
| He just needs a back massage, some electrolytes. | ||
|
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What's that? | |
| The gun. | ||
| The gun thing. | ||
|
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It's right there. | |
| Theragun. | ||
|
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Theragun. | |
| I want to get one of those. | ||
| He needs a Theragun. | ||
| He needs electrolytes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of those companies. | ||
| Tim Tam's a really good one, too. | ||
| Think a real person. | ||
| A real person with an elbow. | ||
| Rub it in your back. | ||
| Hire a professional. | ||
| Yeah, those are around. | ||
| Look, people are really good at that show. | ||
| Remember when we used to be able to get massages? | ||
|
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You can show up with your intimates. | |
| No, I mean... | ||
| So first world. | ||
| Yeah, total fucking champagne problems. | ||
| The future. | ||
| I got a fucked up back and it's been... | ||
| You know, I've been managing... | ||
| What's wrong with your back? | ||
| All kinds of shit. | ||
| Tell me. | ||
|
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What do you want to know? | |
| I fixed problems in my back. | ||
| I can tell you. | ||
| Well, I started doing... | ||
| I've helped a lot of my friends that have had similar... | ||
| So from the violin, I've got like a left shoulder thing up the neck that sometimes I just can't go this way. | ||
| But it's more physical therapy that I just regularly was doing with like chiropractor. | ||
| I'm okay, by the way. | ||
| I was playing pool so much that I was developing this really bad pain in the middle of my back when I lived in New York. | ||
| Because he spends so much time bent over a table. | ||
| I would play pool 8-10 hours a day. | ||
| So 8-10 hours a day I was bent over this fucking table looking at these balls. | ||
| Story of my life. | ||
| I was going to say it, you fucking made me do it. | ||
| Can you imagine like I'm trying to save for college? | ||
|
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Every day, just balls, balls, balls, balls, balls. | |
| That's a lot of time, dude. | ||
| Whenever you think about, or I used to read about a lot of drummers, you know, famous drummers, and eight hours was kind of the magic number. | ||
| All these guys, Tony Williams, even Billy Corgan, who's a great guitar player. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| Trying to get me to buy a drum set. | ||
| I'll buy a drum set, bro. | ||
| Just think about it. | ||
| Just think about it, Joe. | ||
| I'll give you one. | ||
| Send me one on Amazon. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Are we allowed to support Amazon or are we not woke enough? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I saw some really cool stuff about supporting black businesses, like buy your books from bookstores. | ||
| This is my thoughts on Jeff Bezos. | ||
| He could be way worse. | ||
| We should be nice to that guy and give him a hug and tell him, like, bro, I get it. | ||
| No one's supposed to have $180 billion. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| Let's be friends. | ||
| Jeff, Jeff, I know we don't know each other, but I love you. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Extend the olive branch. | ||
| You're gonna be okay, man. | ||
| We're all gonna be okay, but we're not gonna make it. | ||
| Get him on the podcast. | ||
| Let him speak for himself. | ||
| I would love to have you on, Jeff. | ||
| Jeff Bezos. | ||
| Order him. | ||
| Of Amazon.com. | ||
| Order him! | ||
| I'm really, really inspired by you. | ||
|
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Legitimately. | |
| You think he'll get here by Saturday? | ||
|
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Kevin... | |
| Kevin Hart was on the podcast last week and he was talking about Jeff Bezos. | ||
| Then he met Jeff Bezos at a party and he made a beeline right to him. | ||
| And his friend was actually urging him not to do it. | ||
| Wait, Bezos made that or Kevin? | ||
| No, Kevin did. | ||
| He saw Jeff Bezos. | ||
| Was it well received? | ||
| And his friend was like, no, don't talk to him. | ||
| He was like, get the fuck away from me! | ||
| Doing this. | ||
|
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Damn. | |
| What did you see Jeff? | ||
| Or maybe it's person. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| I'd give Jeff my number. | ||
| I don't know what Jeff Bezos looks like, to be honest with you. | ||
| If I saw him at a party, I'd be like... | ||
|
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That's the guy. | |
| Well, I'll introduce you. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| Jesus Christ, if you want to be subtle... | ||
| No, I'm good. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| The internet's not the place. | ||
| I'm really okay. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I'll put you in whatever headlock I know how to do. | ||
| I'll show you how to kill me. | ||
| Triangle. | ||
| I'll show you how to kill me. | ||
| I'll show you how to kill me. | ||
| As long as you wear blackface, you can choke me out and kill me. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I want to get... | ||
| I want there to be so little racism that that's not even a term anymore. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Can we get to that? | ||
| I think we can. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| We can get to the point where there's just morons, assholes, and people you can hang out with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think we can get there. | ||
| Morons, assholes, people you can hang out with. | ||
| People who love you. | ||
| I was thinking about you because, you know, you're a comic. | ||
| And the thing is, there's a lot of things to make fun of, but people are so fucking sensitive right now. | ||
| And for good reason. | ||
| That's why I signed with Spotify! | ||
| I'm like, I got plans, bitch. | ||
|
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I'm riding this wave right into the rocks. | |
| Come with me! | ||
| Ben, what are you doing? | ||
| Are you stretching? | ||
| He's stretching. | ||
| That's what weed in California does to you in 2020. How long has this podcast been going on? | ||
| Three and a half hours. | ||
| A mere two hours less than the Kevin Smith podcast. | ||
|
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Let's play a song and eat a sandwich. | |
| What's the Kevin Smith one? | ||
| If you had a guess. | ||
| I want to say it's five hours. | ||
|
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What? | |
| You weren't here? | ||
| Who was here? | ||
| No, he was here for the second one. | ||
|
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That's what it is. | |
| But there was a really long one before Jamie. | ||
| Jamie... | ||
| Jamie was a thought in another dimension. | ||
| I apologize to Gary Clark after our last podcast because I talked so much. | ||
| Listen, don't you ever do that. | ||
| Well, I love Gary so much. | ||
| Just tell him you love him. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I love him so much. | ||
| He loves you too. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| He wasn't mad. | ||
| He loves you. | ||
|
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I love him. | |
| But I think he was really stoned. | ||
| Everybody was great. | ||
| You're freaking out? | ||
| I freak out all the time, but I just want Gary to know how much I love him. | ||
|
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So do I! Ride the wave, Suzanne! | |
| I'm trying! | ||
| I'm not a very good surfer. | ||
| Do we want to do Angel of Death or what? | ||
| Let's do whatcha? | ||
| You gotta do both. | ||
| We'll do both. | ||
| Let's do this one because I know I'm not gonna fuck it up. | ||
| Angel of Death is how I met you guys. | ||
| Let's do what you're going to do now first, Ben. | ||
| I love that too. | ||
| Let's do Angel of Death after that. | ||
| Because I'm starting to get a little... | ||
| I'm pretty fucked up. | ||
| Time is your friend. | ||
| Yes, it's only a... | ||
|
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It's Light Out. | |
| How can you tell? | ||
| It's Light Out. | ||
| I can tell. | ||
| Joe knows. | ||
| I have security cameras. | ||
| I support that. | ||
| We're fine. | ||
| I'm so glad he brought sandwiches. | ||
|
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We're all gonna be fine. | |
| This might be the first podcast we ever make part one and part two. | ||
|
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Jamie, what do you think? | |
| If we go straight psychedelics, we should totally do part two. | ||
| I think we should give a round of applause to young Jamie, who is perhaps the greatest podcast producer in the known universe. | ||
| And he wears a Columbus, Ohio shirt. | ||
| Reps Ohio in a strong way. | ||
| The best one-handed Googler the world has ever known. | ||
| Fastest finger shit in the West. | ||
| He's telepathic. | ||
| I'll start talking about shit. | ||
| Teach me. | ||
| I mean, weird shit. | ||
| Hyenas. | ||
| Fucking monkeys. | ||
| You guys are like unibrain. | ||
| Unibrain? | ||
|
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Yeah, there's a thing there. | |
| I think we've integrated... | ||
| Jamie and I are connected. | ||
| We're in the ether together. | ||
| What's wrong? | ||
| You guys are swapping guitars? | ||
| Yeah, we're kind of fucked up too. | ||
| We brought everything. | ||
| I've said this before, I'm gonna say it again. | ||
| One of the things I love about music is I don't even know what the fuck you're doing. | ||
| I got no idea. | ||
| I could say the same about a kettlebell. | ||
| I could teach you that right quick. | ||
| I could teach you that really quick. | ||
| I'm good with the arms, but the core and some of my whiffs, I want to tighten up my whiffs. | ||
| Jamie's going to film this right after here. | ||
| We're going to go right over to the gym. | ||
|
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I'm not kidding. | |
| I'm not kidding either. | ||
| See, my whoop is not in the right place for kettlebells. | ||
| You see why? | ||
| My whoop is on top. | ||
| When I do kettlebells, that's what I do. | ||
| It's a whoop strap. | ||
| Hey, first of all... | ||
| Do kettlebells! | ||
| I switched that bitch! | ||
|
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It makes sense. | |
| There shouldn't be any reason that we're not in the best shape of our lives right now other than depression, so... | ||
| And age. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Me! | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| You're in the best shape of all of us combined. | ||
| No, we're all gonna be okay. | ||
| We're gonna be fine. | ||
|
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You gotta stay on top of the wave! | |
| Don't get locked! | ||
| How are we doing on two? | ||
| Hold your breath, soldier! | ||
| If we had a drum set, we'd be a band right now. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
|
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| Jamie, you don't play drums, right? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Anybody can play drums! | ||
| You're trying to con me! | ||
| You're trying to con me to get a drum set! | ||
|
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Stop conning Joe Rogan! | |
| I'll definitely learn. | ||
| I'll learn. | ||
|
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I don't want to lose Jamie to SpaceX! | |
| As soon as they figure out he can learn everything, we've got a real problem. | ||
| I don't want to lose him. | ||
| Teach him how to play drums. | ||
|
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What if he gets as good at that as he is his one hand in Googling? | |
| No, no. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I was thinking about that. | ||
| I had this, like, weird, like... | ||
| I was like, one day, like, 20 years from now, when everyone's like... | ||
|
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When, like, Joe's like, Young Jamie! | |
| Because that's where your voice is going, Joe. | ||
|
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He's young, Jamie. | |
| Jamie is young in spirit. | ||
| Jamie, Jamie, look that up. | ||
| It's 90-year-old Rogan. | ||
| I can't wait to see that guy. | ||
| It doesn't matter how old Jamie gets. | ||
| He's always been young in spirit. | ||
|
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I know. | |
| I love it. | ||
| When I met Jamie, I'm like, this dude's cool. | ||
| He's just a fun kid. | ||
| He's Young Jamie! | ||
| This is a good crew. | ||
| I had a ponytail back then. | ||
| I met Young Jamie at the Ice House in Pasadena. | ||
| That's pretty awesome. | ||
| Yeah, we were talking about audio engineering. | ||
| Love that stuff. | ||
| What cares, this cool motherfucker? | ||
| No, this is a great crew you got here. | ||
| Like, things are going well. | ||
| There's no crew, it's just Jamie and me! | ||
|
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I know! | |
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| That's your crewman! | ||
| Yeah, I like how you took the same room. | ||
| I'm just like, we could have been in that other... | ||
| I'm gonna do it again in Texas! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| There's always air travel. | ||
| International. | ||
| Worldwide. | ||
|
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Is there? | |
| Yes! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When you get the spaceship fired up... | ||
| I'll fly you guys out. | ||
| You call us. | ||
| You call us. | ||
| Listen, my thoughts about Austin are if I do move there... | ||
|
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Is this a public thing? | |
| 100%. | ||
| I'm just going to fly people in. | ||
| I'll fly anybody in. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| It's a day. | ||
| It's one day. | ||
| Let's be friends! | ||
|
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Because by then, there'll be venues again. | |
| And we'll just go there, play a show, do a podcast, hang for a week... | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You gotta give people the choice to do what they want to do. | ||
| I don't know if they're right. | ||
| I don't know if you... | ||
| We have to inform people and then we have to give them the ability to make decisions and I don't know if you're right. | ||
| I don't know if I'm right. | ||
| I don't know who's right. | ||
| I'm scared. | ||
| You're scared. | ||
| Can we talk? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can we talk? | ||
|
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I don't think gloves work! | |
| For what? | ||
| I don't trust people who drive with masks on. | ||
| Oh, it's weird. | ||
| I think they're pussies. | ||
| You're in your own car. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
|
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Where are you going, bitch? | |
| You're gonna fold! | ||
|
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Interrogation! | |
| You're going to fold! | ||
| You're going to fold up shop, you fucking pussy! | ||
|
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Hey! | |
| What? | ||
|
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Why are you going to mask on? | |
| You're in your own fucking car! | ||
| I'm scared. | ||
|
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It's a sky poison! | |
| I'm scared. | ||
| You're making the wrong choice. | ||
| I thought you just said to make the wrong choice. | ||
| That's the right choice. | ||
| Listen, you're always going to have bitches. | ||
| We have to... | ||
| Everything is real. | ||
| All things are real. | ||
| Liars, poets... | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Lovers, thieves. | ||
| Everything is real. | ||
| We gotta all accept it together. | ||
| Recognize bitches! | ||
| Flush them! | ||
|
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Wake them up in the morning! | |
| Get up, son! | ||
| Give them your love. | ||
| Could you imagine? | ||
| I think that's part of what you're saying. | ||
|
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It's time to be a man! | |
| I'm gonna work out to this every day. | ||
| Just wake them up! | ||
| It doesn't happen on its own. | ||
| You must force it. | ||
| You must force all of it. | ||
| Love! | ||
| Force love! | ||
| Hugs! | ||
| Hug your friends! | ||
|
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Mike, I love you! | |
| Who's Mike? | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| It's an imaginary person. | ||
| I have a couple of Mike friends. | ||
| Mike Young! | ||
| Mike Young, I love you! | ||
| I love what's happening right now. | ||
| I love a lot of people. | ||
| We all gotta love each other. | ||
| 100%. | ||
|
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I think that's pretty much the key. | |
| That is the key. | ||
| Unlock that door. | ||
| The key is this. | ||
| We gotta accept that we're all living in this fucking fantastic soup of possibilities. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| And we all come from different backgrounds and different deficits and different strengths. | ||
| Different... | ||
| Different ideas, different perspective, different biases. | ||
|
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Preach. | |
| God damn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All these things... | ||
| First of all, we should have a George Floyd memorial, a big one, like a Mount Everest style. | ||
| Yeah, but why stop there? | ||
| What is the one with all the presidents? | ||
| Not Mount Everest. | ||
|
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Rushmore. | |
| Rushmore, that one. | ||
|
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Do a George Floyd. | |
| Come on, bro. | ||
|
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How about if we did that? | |
| Can you imagine if that one shitty cop, for whatever, let's just let him get away with all the shit that he got away with forever. | ||
| There's a ton of complaints about that guy. | ||
| Are there? | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Oh, yeah, over the years. | ||
| I didn't get into that. | ||
| Dating way, way, way, way, way back to the early 2000s, right? | ||
| 2006 was his first complaint. | ||
| I've ignorantly only just seen the video. | ||
| As long as you've tweeted, that's okay. | ||
| He has an insane look in his eye. | ||
|
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I don't care if you've gone over the facts, but have you tweeted? | |
| I think it's Richmond. | ||
| Did you have an Instagram black square? | ||
| Because if you didn't, lose my number. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I did. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I know you didn't. | ||
| I'm kidding. | ||
| It's important for me not to. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's not that I don't support the movement. | ||
| I do, but I don't know who the fuck told everybody to have a black square on fucking election days, on a primary day. | ||
| Okay, even if most people said, okay, I'm going to post a black square, and then I'm going to post my other shit, there's for sure a step back. | ||
| It was confusing. | ||
| The messaging on 911 was confusing. | ||
| I don't know where it came from. | ||
| If I knew where it came from, if The Rock got on his Instagram and said, we all need to post a black square To support that we love everyone! | ||
| We love black people! | ||
| We love Asian people! | ||
| Polynesians! | ||
| South Americans! | ||
| We love everybody! | ||
|
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If The Rock would just take the reins! | |
| I'll be your press secretary. | ||
| I think he's going to. | ||
| I'm going to be his, uh, what's that dude, Stephen, the one dude that keeps getting in trouble, bald guy, Pauly Shore knows him. | ||
| Stephen, bald guy, Pauly Shore knows him. | ||
| Stephen Miller. | ||
| Yeah, that guy. | ||
| I'll be that guy. | ||
| Is there ice in the bucket still? | ||
| For the Rocks administration. | ||
| Is ice in that bucket? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You know, back to the blackout thing, I like to think that it wasn't... | ||
| Some kind of weird conspiracy, because I found a really... | ||
| Which blackout? | ||
| The Instagram. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm kidding, I'm kidding. | ||
| No, I know you are, but I... I should be clear, I should be clear. | ||
| I don't want people to think I'm disrespecting that. | ||
| I'm joking around. | ||
| But one thing that I am... | ||
| I understand what it is. | ||
| You want to know how many people are with you. | ||
| Here's reality. | ||
| Everybody's with you. | ||
| Everybody who has a heart. | ||
| Everybody who loves people. | ||
| Everybody who loves Marvin Gaye and Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali and Lawrence Fishburne and Ice Cube and every fucking brilliant... | ||
| African-American artists across, Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle, we love everybody. | ||
| We love you especially. | ||
| It's not a fair game. | ||
| The game that African-Americans are playing is different than the game that European-American settlers, like my family, is playing. | ||
| We drifted into this game that was established by slavery. | ||
| It's not our game. | ||
| It's a different game. | ||
| And for anyone to, if we're going to progress, we have to acknowledge This didn't start... | ||
| It's not like everybody's like, okay, you all have four cards. | ||
| Each one of those cards is worth 40 points. | ||
|
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Do your best... | |
| Are we playing Monopoly again? | ||
| Well, you're playing the game. | ||
| Society. | ||
| If you want to think about what economic equality is or what... | ||
| Just any sort of community, like the way we feel about each other. | ||
| What's equal and what's not? | ||
| It's not 100% based on what you've done. | ||
| There's a giant chunk of it that's based on things that are completely out of control. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Right, but that's the thing that doesn't get talked about. | ||
| If you want to talk about presidential campaigns or gubernatorial campaigns, whether it's the Senate or Congress, no one says, like, hey, hey, hey, this is a crazy game. | ||
| This is a crazy game. | ||
| And some people get a million chips. | ||
| Some people owe chips the moment they're born. | ||
| They're bad the moment they're born. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And some of those people swim through those waters and become these incredibly powerful artists. | ||
| And that's what's so fascinating about America. | ||
| The James Browns, the princes, the people that swam through that water who are extraordinary. | ||
| The Marvin Gayes, the Muhammad Ali's, the Joe Frazier's. | ||
| David and Goliath. | ||
| So many people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's a thing. | ||
| I'm listening to the David and Goliath, Malcolm Gladwell book, and it has a lot of that, like, defying the odds in a lot of ways, you know. | ||
| But, you know, in terms of the black box, that is an action that, like, to have a... | ||
| To do something, even if it's so simple as a digital action, in solidarity, it feels powerful. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It feels like a recognition and a cognizance that is a consciousness that, you know, you can sit here and thought, but when you start to open up a conversation or express yourself, and it's scary. | ||
| I've been expressing myself and I've been falling on my fucking face. | ||
| But I keep getting back up because I want to understand. | ||
| And there's a real... | ||
| Can I stop you right there? | ||
| Please, yeah. | ||
| But you weren't falling on your face when you're talking to those people in real life. | ||
| Like the real video back and forth stuff. | ||
| No. | ||
| No problems. | ||
| No. | ||
| The problem is Twitter. | ||
| The problem is talking through text. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If anybody talks to you or you, you guys are really nice people. | ||
| Like from the moment I met you. | ||
| Like we met in like 2012, you know? | ||
|
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Holy shit! | |
| I think at the Ice House. | ||
| We did. | ||
| Hey, we did that end of the world show in December of 2012. December 21st, 2012. Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Hey, 10-year anniversary, y'all. | ||
| Ben's out of booze. | ||
| Don't drink that. | ||
| Ben, pour first. | ||
| We have patience. | ||
| He put a joint in his glass. | ||
| You desecrated your whiskey glass. | ||
| Then take mine and pour whiskey in the joint one. | ||
| I'll drink that. | ||
| Don't be a bitch. | ||
| No, pour whiskey in that one. | ||
| Yes, of course I will. | ||
| That's the point of this. | ||
| Guys, stop fighting. | ||
| Guys, stop fighting. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Don't drink out of that glass. | ||
| The real amount of whiskey, like a drink. | ||
| I don't want to sue you. | ||
|
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What are you talking about? | |
| If I was at a bar and I bought a whiskey. | ||
| There's got to be more glasses around here. | ||
| There's a lot more glasses. | ||
| Give me the joint glass. | ||
| I'm not scared. | ||
| I'm not scared of dirt. | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| I'm not giving it to you. | ||
| There's action. | ||
| What are you scared? | ||
| We shared a joint! | ||
|
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Joe, look. | |
| Your life matters more than ours. | ||
|
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Give me your fucking weed! | |
| Charcoal in a glass. | ||
|
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Joe, you need to stay alive for the world. | |
| Unnecessary. | ||
|
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Stay alive. | |
| Yeah, we can't give you this contaminated glass of whiskey. | ||
| He ate the first dip he ever did. | ||
| It's gonna be fine. | ||
| I wish I could tell you what's going on in my body. | ||
| All right, Ben! | ||
| What if I just drink out of this fucking thing? | ||
|
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Ben, give it to him! | |
| He uses his show. | ||
| Give it to him. | ||
| He wants it. | ||
| Ben, give me that! | ||
| Give me that! | ||
| Give me it! | ||
| Give me it! | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| Pour whiskey in that! | ||
|
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There's whiskey in it! | |
| No, pour more like a real drink. | ||
| It's going to be okay, guys. | ||
| Jesus, Ben! | ||
| Ben, Jamie, tell them! | ||
| Joe Rogan says we have to conquer our inner bitch! | ||
| You're not going to give him feces with hookworms in it. | ||
|
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It's just a little bit of whiskey. | |
| It's fine. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Okay, but I still don't have whiskey. | ||
| I've been doing this forever. | ||
| This is yours. | ||
|
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Take that one. | |
| Pour a glass and let's clink. | ||
|
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Oh my god! | |
| Clink, pour a glass. | ||
| What's going to happen after this? | ||
|
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Zero. | |
| Zero things. | ||
| No, I mean for the long haul. | ||
| And you're going to start life again. | ||
| Salute! | ||
| Hey, I went in on that. | ||
| I love you guys so much. | ||
| I love you guys too. | ||
| You guys are awesome. | ||
| Are we talking a decade here? | ||
| I think we've been friends for... | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| ...reasonably at least nine years or eight years. | ||
| It was that... | ||
| The first studio I remember I thought was in the Ice House. | ||
| It was like a side room. | ||
| I was definitely in Pasadena. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, my friend Eddie Bravo is a really... | ||
| He's great. | ||
| We've met him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But he's a really big fan of you guys. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And when you guys performed at that show where it was you guys, Joey Diaz, Doug Stanhope. | ||
| Doug, yeah. | ||
| One of my favorite times of life. | ||
| I wore a fucking suit. | ||
| I never wear a suit on stage. | ||
| You look dope as fuck. | ||
| That's the only time I ever wore a suit in a comedy show ever. | ||
| It was with us. | ||
| I was like, if the Mayans were right... | ||
|
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If the Mayans were right... | |
| We're gonna go down looking good! | ||
|
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Let's ride this bitch out! | |
| But Eddie Bravo, he's a real fan of music. | ||
| You guys were on stage and he was like, God damn, these motherfuckers are talented. | ||
| He's a sweet dude. | ||
| I love him a lot. | ||
| But it was really interesting because Eddie had never seen you guys before. | ||
| He didn't know. | ||
| And he goes, who are these people? | ||
| I go, they're really good friends of mine. | ||
| They're called Honey Honey. | ||
| And I start telling them this song, that song, Angel of Death, ba-ba-ba. | ||
| We start talking, let's get wrecked. | ||
| And then we're sitting backstage and he sees you guys go on stage and he goes, what? | ||
| Bro, these motherfuckers are talented. | ||
| That was 2012, December 21st. | ||
| That was at the... | ||
|
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Thank you for having us on that show. | |
| It was really special. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| One of the coolest things about having a... | ||
| There's us backstage! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| That's right, Jamie took all these pictures. | ||
| Jamie, that's a great shot. | ||
| I put a suit on. | ||
| Oh, you both look so handsome. | ||
| I actually had a suit made. | ||
| Well, because they don't make them for chimps. | ||
|
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You gotta go. | |
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| Oh, that's so special. | ||
| I want that. | ||
|
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Yeah, 2012. Was Duncan there? | |
| Yes, he was there. | ||
| He had his own dressing on, I guess. | ||
| Didn't he come to hang out? | ||
| Oh, Bill Burr came down. | ||
| I remember meeting Bill that night and being like, holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, he's cool as fuck. | ||
| Well, I felt like, no, no bullshit. | ||
| There's Doug in his cool little plaid jacket. | ||
| There's Eddie. | ||
| There's very few times in all of life where someone has the opportunity to be the person who says, hey, we might all die tonight. | ||
| So let's rage. | ||
| This is what I think we're going to do. | ||
| Let's fill up a giant place. | ||
| I'm going to get together with a bunch of my friends. | ||
| Let's love each other. | ||
|
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Let's have fun! | |
| It was so much fun. | ||
| Let's listen to music. | ||
| Let's talk some shit! | ||
| You crushed it that night. | ||
| It was a fun night. | ||
| It was fire. | ||
| Everybody was really excited. | ||
| It was a fun night. | ||
| Even if it didn't happen, and it didn't happen, here we are, eight years later, everybody's okay. | ||
| Apparently the world was not supposed to end then, unless this is the afterlife. | ||
| But we keep that place, the Wiltern. | ||
|
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I think that's one of the great theaters in LA. Oh yeah, that's amazing. | |
| I hope they can open soon. | ||
| Just open. | ||
| You can probably a place like that would probably be easier because there's chairs you say, no one's sitting there, no one's sitting there. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| This is my motto. | ||
| It's four words. | ||
| Let people take risks. | ||
|
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You let people do motocross and BMX. I gotta tell you, I am mourning the live show. | |
| It's been tough. | ||
|
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Yeah? | |
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| There's a special connection you have to audiences, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel that way too. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| You can kind of make songs with nobody around, you know, but I can't make any jokes. | ||
| I can make like... | ||
| If I... If I had to write out my shit and then go out like randomly without ever trying it out in an audience, I might hit like 70% of the time. | ||
| That means like 30% of my jokes are gonna be terrible. | ||
| Dude, the pain of 30% of your jokes failing might kill you. | ||
| No, no, no, don't, no. | ||
| No, it wouldn't me. | ||
|
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No! | |
| But I'm just saying, like, 30%, a lot of people paying money to hear jokes, and 30% die. | ||
| I feel like our set was like 10% worked when we first started and we slowly like over 10 years it took us and we probably got to 85%. | ||
| That's a fair assessment. | ||
| I'll hang with that. | ||
| But don't you think that the 85% you hit when you guys got comfortable Was probably one of the most satisfying experiences you could ever imagine. | ||
| Because you know you went through the beginning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and then we both also went off and did different projects and sort of had different assessments of what that percentage spectrum looked like. | ||
| And now that we're sort of coming back to, you know, integrating our music together, it feels so differently. | ||
| Like, we're both such better musicians. | ||
| And I'd like to think, you know, we've had our separate therapy and our work, and so, like, it just feels different. | ||
| What kind of therapy do you guys do? | ||
| Oh, all kinds. | ||
| I mean, oh my god, you can do the one. | ||
| I'm so jealous. | ||
| I've always wanted to. | ||
|
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You can't do that? | |
| No, you dick. | ||
| Stop doing Botox. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I couldn't do it before Botox. | ||
| You did Botox? | ||
| Shut up! | ||
|
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Whoa! | |
| What? | ||
| I've never heard about this. | ||
|
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Yeah, I mean, I got a line here. | |
| Wow, Joe knew. | ||
| I didn't even know. | ||
| Ladies don't want wrinkles. | ||
|
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Don't even know. | |
| No ladies want wrinkles. | ||
| First of all, Listen, stop shaming the Botox, Ben. | ||
| I'm not shaming the Botox. | ||
| It was just a surprise. | ||
| A moment of, caught me off guard. | ||
| I'll be honest. | ||
| First of all, yes, I've had Botox. | ||
| Have you heard of Brotox? | ||
| Yeah, I've seen it. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| I know what it looks like now. | ||
| Like, when this shit doesn't work. | ||
| I saw a cat kill a squirrel. | ||
| I know it's real. | ||
|
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I know it's real. | |
| The poop is in the pudding, Joe. | ||
| No, I'll tell you what. | ||
| I don't fuck with my lips. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I won't. | ||
| I don't like that look. | ||
| And don't worry about your forehead either. | ||
| And no disrespect to the ladies that do. | ||
| Stop shooting botulets. | ||
| I'm so close to your dome. | ||
| I just had this angry line that was bumming me out. | ||
| Welcome to my life. | ||
| But you're the fucking Buddha of podcasting and the king of Spotify. | ||
| I told you I'm the joker. | ||
|
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Whatever. | |
| Anyway, let me have my Botox! | ||
| I wish there was something better that wasn't botulism. | ||
| No, there is. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I've done it twice now. | ||
| I've done Botox twice. | ||
| And that's a fact. | ||
| And there's all kinds of things you can do. | ||
| I do... | ||
| Well, I have a lot of really great natural skin care. | ||
| This company called Epicurin that I really like. | ||
| And then there's also laser light therapy. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| Get your joint out of your whiskey, dude. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| While I talk about skin care. | ||
| It's an unnecessary joke. | ||
|
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He's like, you bro. | |
| You jock. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I told you, I'm making up for the fact that Jamie beat me in our weekly NAD IV drip. | ||
| That's how you win. | ||
| And that is how you win, Jamie. | ||
| Are we going to lift weights after this or what? | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I'm so down. | ||
|
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|
Sure. | |
| Have you been lifting? | ||
|
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|
Yeah. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| Get it, get it, get it, get it, get it. | ||
| Can you see that? | ||
| Get you doing some shit. | ||
| Get you doing some windmills. | ||
| Do you want to hold plank and take, and like, I'll lose. | ||
| I want to hold plank till I die. | ||
| That's how I want to do it. | ||
| When I'm 75, I'm just going to say, today, these are my words of life. | ||
|
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|
Joe Rogan's going to be in better shape at 75 than we are now at 35. Is your back feeling fine right now sitting in this chair? | |
| Yeah, I'm good. | ||
| Yours is bothering you? | ||
| What's bothering you? | ||
| Lower back. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What are you doing wrong? | ||
|
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That's what I'm trying to figure out! | |
| When you say bothering, what do you mean? | ||
| It's just like an ache. | ||
| Have you gone to a doctor at all? | ||
| Have you got an MRI? Is it your taint again? | ||
| No, my taint's all good. | ||
| How's your taint, son? | ||
| He had a taint thing for a while. | ||
| Imagine your dad grabbing you by the shoulders. | ||
| How's your taint, son? | ||
| No, it's a thing. | ||
| Ben's taint hurt. | ||
| Pelvic floor, bro. | ||
| Gotta check that. | ||
| Gotta address it. | ||
| Do your kegels. | ||
| Jamie fell down off a hoverboard right out here on our polished fucking concrete floors and broke his ass bone. | ||
| All the coccyx? | ||
| No, I think it's like an SI joint, but it's all the same area. | ||
| Fuck, I'm so sorry. | ||
| It's pronounced acai. | ||
| He figured it out because somebody else is explaining. | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| Zach Bitter had a sense in me. | ||
|
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That's right. | |
| Zach Bitter, the guy who broke the world record 100 mile run. | ||
| He ran 100 miles faster than any human being has ever ran it. | ||
| He ran a hundred miles. | ||
| What kind of shoes was he wearing? | ||
| Who gives a fuck? | ||
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He can do it! | |
| I give a fuck! | ||
| He's an animal! | ||
|
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I want to know what kind of shoes he was wearing! | |
| I don't want to tell you! | ||
|
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Okay, fine! | |
| I want you to look in your soul! | ||
| Are we still friends? | ||
|
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I don't want to stop yelling because it means I lost the fight. | |
| I bought a pair of my shoes. | ||
| They are excellent. | ||
| They're escalators. | ||
| So, Jamie, did you say something happened? | ||
| You addressed your pelvic floor and healed yourself. | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| Yes, through a lot of physical therapy, basically. | ||
| Almost basic stretching. | ||
|
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Can guys do Kegels? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| No, no, no, it's not that. | ||
| I just pulled up a quick picture and they look like Sauconies. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's another company. | ||
| I bought Sauconies. | ||
| Sauconies make a really good... | ||
| Oh, Altra. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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A-L-T-R-A. I'm gonna ditch this. | |
| Sauconies makes a really good trail shoe, too, though. | ||
| So this guy ran a hundred miles in like 11 hours. | ||
| How many hours? | ||
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Holy shit! | |
| Wow, look at him! | ||
| This was around the track. | ||
| He also did it on a treadmill. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Yeah, the treadmill was really recently, but he broke the world record on ground for the fastest 100 mile ever. | ||
| I like the beard better. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| He's an animal, but he's a really nice guy. | ||
| Will Forte vibes, says Ben, over there stretching. | ||
| He runs in these ultras, and he told me about them. | ||
| They're flat, as opposed to the idea of the heel of a lot of running shoes are fatter. | ||
| Those are really not the way your body's designed. | ||
| I wonder what kind of feet he has. | ||
| How is his arch? | ||
| I personally have a collapsed arch. | ||
| I have pancakes for feet. | ||
| I have no fucking arch. | ||
| It's difficult. | ||
| I want to talk about me. | ||
| I think that dude could run on lava. | ||
| Look at Joe Rogan talking about running on air. | ||
| I think he could run on the moon. | ||
| He just runs. | ||
| It's a mind thing more than anything. | ||
| Like having a really good pair of shoes, whether it's Nike or Ultra or Saucony, that's great. | ||
| I thought it was Saucony, but whatever. | ||
| Saucony. | ||
| I'm not weighing in on this. | ||
|
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Jamie? | |
| I'm sorry I brought it up. | ||
| Is it Saucony or Saucony? | ||
| I honestly don't hear anybody ever say it. | ||
| I just read it. | ||
| You're 100% right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank you for drawing attention to this, Suzanne. | ||
| That fucked me up with voila forever. | ||
| What? | ||
| Voila. | ||
|
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Voila? | |
| It starts with a V. Like voila. | ||
| Voila! | ||
| Yeah, Voila! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| When I first started reading scripts, I was like, Voila! | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| What the fuck is this? | ||
| How can you know all of the things? | ||
| The things? | ||
| Well, just the pronunciations. | ||
| There's so many variations. | ||
| And I say this from a place of earnest. | ||
| I misuse a lot of words. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| And mispronounce them. | ||
| And it's very humbling. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's only humbling because you feel like you want people to... | ||
| You need a bodyguard. | ||
| You know, like a psychic bodyguard. | ||
| Almost everybody does. | ||
| Like, come on! | ||
| No, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Like, one person who gets it. | ||
| This is my psychic bodyguard. | ||
| Look over your ideas. | ||
| It's Ben Jaffe. | ||
| I'm real. | ||
| Yeah, it's my psychic bodyguard. | ||
| You don't need me. | ||
| You got this. | ||
| Where do I donate? | ||
| You don't need me. | ||
| You guys have a PayPal? | ||
| In fact, we do. | ||
| Patreon is so weird. | ||
|
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I'm trying to figure out how to interact with that. | |
| Patreon is so weird. | ||
| Listen, this is what I think. | ||
| A lot of people think you shouldn't do sponsors. | ||
| This is what I think. | ||
| Let me talk about some sponsors that I actually believe in. | ||
| And then, let's pretend I never said it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is also... | ||
| And then just go. | ||
|
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This way. | |
| Should we delete that part? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Cool. | ||
| No, because all of my sponsors are like good companies. | ||
| Like you want to buy a Yeti cooler. | ||
| That's a good cooler. | ||
| You want to buy Black Rifle coffee. | ||
| That's great coffee. | ||
|
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But let's forget about all that. | |
| That's what we're really talking about, Joe. | ||
| What are we talking about? | ||
| You tell us. | ||
| We're talking about life! | ||
| We're talking about Honey Honey! | ||
| This idea that you gotta be scared. | ||
| Like, scared of what? | ||
| Wait, but what does that have to do with Patreon? | ||
| Because if you want money, and you eat... | ||
| I don't want any sponsors. | ||
| I just wanted the support of my fans. | ||
| No, I want sponsors. | ||
| Buffalo Trees, you hear me? | ||
| Honeyhoney.com slash Patreon. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| We haven't Patreoned before. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| And I always feel weird about other platforms, even though you can't avoid it. | ||
| I mean, like YouTube, that's somebody else's platform. | ||
| At this point, our own platform is good enough for me. | ||
| But there's something to be said, sorry. | ||
| I would submit that it's better to take money from sponsors and then... | ||
| Say what you feel. | ||
| Any sponsors you want to throw our way, just let us know. | ||
| Say what you feel. | ||
| But on Patreon, your audience is... | ||
|
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That Patreon shit is whack. | |
| But they're your sponsors. | ||
| It's the same shit. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
|
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It's a bunch of creeps who want you to not sell out. | |
| Do what I'm telling you to, Ben Chaffee! | ||
| You fucking pussy! | ||
| That's my pussy voice. | ||
|
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Who's... | |
| Who's telling you to do it? | ||
| Oh, the people that you're saying. | ||
| YouTube commenters. | ||
| Well, who gives a shit? | ||
| You said that the first time we met. | ||
| The first time we met. | ||
| You were like, guys. | ||
| I'm a hypocrite. | ||
| You're a hypocrite. | ||
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Wouldn't you like to be a hypocrite, too? | |
| Get the drum set. | ||
| Ah! | ||
| For God's sake. | ||
| I think there's a compromise here. | ||
| This would be a good room for it, too, because there's baffling in here. | ||
| It wouldn't be overwhelming. | ||
|
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What's baffling? | |
| I'm so fucked up. | ||
| There's a lot of absorptive substances and textures, you know what I mean? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I mean, out there would sound fucking great. | ||
| I don't know what you mean. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| You go out there... | ||
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It's a good spot. | |
| If you were going to have a drum set, where would you put it in this room? | ||
| In this room? | ||
| Well, your butt. | ||
| I'd put it in that corner, actually, except for the door. | ||
|
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You're going to bump anywhere. | |
| I'm not moving the door. | ||
| No, it's that corner. | ||
| I'm just saying, me. | ||
|
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The one place that can't be changed. | |
| The fucking door. | ||
| Not practical, Ben. | ||
| No, you're just like everybody else. | ||
| Social justice warriors! | ||
|
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NRA members! | |
| I don't see the connection. | ||
| Don't understand the connection. | ||
| No flexibility! | ||
| That corner. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Right there. | ||
|
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That corner. | |
| I think that corner is the optimal choice. | ||
| Near my Thai Buddha? | ||
|
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Made out of gold? | |
| I'm scared. | ||
|
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Right here. | |
| That's what I actually meant to say. | ||
| For the record, I'm going to go under the table and I'm going to wait there until things calm down. | ||
| You didn't have to do that. | ||
| You didn't have to drink the joint. | ||
|
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But I did. | |
| This guy. | ||
| But I did. | ||
| You didn't have to. | ||
|
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But I did. | |
| That's true. | ||
| That was your choice. | ||
| And I celebrate that. | ||
| I celebrate both of you. | ||
| We couldn't do this today if it wasn't for each other. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I've said that probably as many times as could be a drinking game. | ||
| I hate to do this, but I'm going to assume that you know I love you. | ||
| I love you back. | ||
| We love you too. | ||
| But you know, right? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Like when we were like, let's do it, let's do it! | ||
| We're like, yeah! | ||
| We know. | ||
| We know it was going to be hugs and fun. | ||
| We've known each other for 10 fucking years. | ||
| Ben said, we had a relationship development yesterday, and you said to me about, I said, Ben, I'm really excited for our drive to Joe Rogan because I think we should listen to Run the Jewels and get super pumped up. | ||
| Oh yeah, this is my Suze revelation. | ||
| And you said... | ||
| Oh, well, I've just been realizing you just like to get excited. | ||
| It doesn't matter what it is. | ||
| It's the act of getting excited. | ||
| No, it matters what it is. | ||
| It has meaning. | ||
| Well, if it's exciting to you. | ||
| But, yes. | ||
| And that was new to understand. | ||
| So seen by you. | ||
| I've known you for 15 years-ish. | ||
| And I just felt like, oh my god, you get it. | ||
| Yes, I love to be excited. | ||
| And you supported me in that moment. | ||
| Killer Mike for president! | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| So what did we do on our drive down here? | ||
| How do we work in this? | ||
|
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Whatever! | |
| Run the juice fast! | ||
| Run the juice fast! | ||
|
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It's Titan FC! Fuck the slow-mo. | |
| This is... | ||
| What's that movie with Schwarzenegger? | ||
| The Terminator. | ||
| No, the one where the fucking... | ||
| True life. | ||
| Conan the Barbarian. | ||
| Fighting for their lives. | ||
| Kindergarten Cop. | ||
| Kindergarten. | ||
| The nanny? | ||
| Where he gets pregnant. | ||
|
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Junior. | |
| Junior. | ||
| That's what I meant. | ||
| It's not called Junior. | ||
|
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It is called Junior. | |
| The Running Man. | ||
| No, that's a different movie. | ||
| You fucking CIA shills. | ||
|
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It's not called Junior. | |
| None of us were alive when I came out. | ||
| Pretty sure it was Kindergarten Cop. | ||
|
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How dare you? | |
| What's going to happen to us after this podcast is released? | ||
| I don't know, but you know what? | ||
| I don't give a fuck anymore. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Listen, we're going to be fine. | ||
| We're going to be fine. | ||
| No, I just want to be my real self all the time. | ||
| There's a thing. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| There's a thing that's happening because of the lack of... | ||
| If you hear someone's words... | ||
| You kind of get it. | ||
| If you hear someone's words repeated by somebody else, you don't really get it. | ||
| If you see them written down, you barely get it at all! | ||
| That was amazing. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| Another beautiful thing about music, sorry. | ||
|
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It transcends time. | |
| Centuries. | ||
| I can play a piece of music and fucking Bach wrote that down and now I can experience the same-ish thing. | ||
| I gotta be real careful, everybody. | ||
| Shout out to Ben's side project called the Box Street Boys. | ||
|
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Check it. | |
| Box Street Boys! | ||
| You heard it here first. | ||
| We could look that up. | ||
| I think we should plug Ben Jaffe. | ||
| No, it's so good. | ||
| They wear wigs. | ||
| Let's not before I get angry. | ||
| I don't want to piss Joe off. | ||
| No, it's so special, though, and you worked so hard at it. | ||
| It's lovely. | ||
| I'm so proud of you. | ||
| That's not comforting at all. | ||
|
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When a girl ever tells you something really so special. | |
| It's fucking awesome, first of all. | ||
| Fucking riff that shit, bro. | ||
| Oh, there we fucking are, Joe. | ||
| You gotta deal with it. | ||
|
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That's a moxie voice. | |
| That's a moxie voice. | ||
| Is this you? | ||
| No. | ||
|
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Yes, 100%. | |
| Me and Drew Tottenfeld represent. | ||
| Which one is you? | ||
|
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What do you mean? | |
| I'm the one on the right, Joe? | ||
| You said you love me. | ||
| You can't even recognize me. | ||
| Oh, now I get it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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It's these fast MTV music video cuts. | |
| Who's that cowboy with the white hat? | ||
| The one who's kicking us off his car. | ||
| We're just a bunch of hooligans. | ||
| That's the Box Street Boys. | ||
| And don't you forget it. | ||
| That guy has glasses on. | ||
| Take it from it. | ||
|
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He doesn't even know where he is. | |
| Piss on his door! | ||
|
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He can't see now! | |
| Look, it's what needs to be done. | ||
|
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It's what needed to be done at that time. | |
| Why the wigs? | ||
| It's what needed to be done. | ||
|
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It's just a thing. | |
| Do you know where the wigs came from? | ||
| Syphilis. | ||
| Dude, come on! | ||
| Syphilis. | ||
| Because people were losing their hair? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Ben, do you have syphilis? | ||
|
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I got my hair, girl. | |
| Go check it out. | ||
| Do you know the expression? | ||
| Check your dick. | ||
| Big wigs. | ||
| What's wrong with this girl? | ||
| She's awesome. | ||
| That's what's wrong with her. | ||
|
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She's awesome and she's drunk. | |
| Okay, thanks, Joe. | ||
| Have you ever heard of the expression big wigs? | ||
| That's from guys with huge wigs where they're losing their fucking hair from syphilis. | ||
| Big wig? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| It was starting from these royal brothers. | ||
| When was that, James? | ||
|
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Worked out. | |
| Was it like France or something? | ||
| By the way, who's better than Jamie? | ||
| One hand. | ||
| Zero people. | ||
| Jamie's the best. | ||
| Jamie. | ||
| Okay, so these two guys... | ||
| Also looking pretty good, though. | ||
|
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What year was this? | |
| Can we talk about Jamie's biceps? | ||
| You can if you want, but let me take my pants off first. | ||
|
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1580. I admit to objectifying my friends, and I'm sorry, but I love it. | |
| Can we make that bigger? | ||
| Damn, worst epidemic since the Black Death. | ||
| So, all these dudes had syphilis because, you know, they were living without... | ||
| Long hair was a trendy status symbol and a bald dome could stain any reputation. | ||
| Why didn't they go the other way? | ||
| That's unfortunate. | ||
| We're all bald. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They were living without the internet. | ||
| Fuck, you're right. | ||
| But were they? | ||
| No, I'm kidding. | ||
| Guys, I am on another planet right now. | ||
| Those are real mushrooms. | ||
|
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Here we are. | |
| What, Tammy? | ||
| Is there a hot tub here? | ||
| I love this clock. | ||
| I wish there was. | ||
| Does the person who makes these clocks continue to make them? | ||
| Can we get a clock? | ||
| Can we? | ||
| Yes, you can. | ||
| TGT Studios. | ||
| Thank you for saying that. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| That's what I'm trying to figure out. | ||
| They're dope, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| What are those things called? | ||
| Nixie tubes. | ||
| They're just like the same thing that could put in a... | ||
| I could totally make that. | ||
| ...guitar amplifier. | ||
| Say that again? | ||
| Nixie. | ||
| Oh, they're tubes. | ||
| Nixie. | ||
| Nixie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And really beautiful hardwood. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Got a lot of great shit in here. | ||
| There's something that's undeniable about wood. | ||
| About a beautiful wood connected with electronics. | ||
| Are we still talking about Jamie's biceps? | ||
|
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No. | |
| I think we're moving south. | ||
| We're moving to his taint. | ||
| We're moving to his taint. | ||
| That pelvic floor. | ||
| Jamie, we're sorry. | ||
| Not sorry. | ||
| You're a girl and you're in love. | ||
|
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Go on. | |
| And you get to Jamie's taint, you see Nixie Tubes. | ||
| He's more machine than man. | ||
|
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You freak out or you just keep going! | |
| Pledge allegiance to the New World Order! | ||
|
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I pray! | |
| Nixie Tubes for Jesus! | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| I think they're from Russia. | ||
| I don't trust any of them. | ||
| They're Huawei designed. | ||
| I wanted a Huawei for a while. | ||
|
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Me too! | |
| I'm a rebel! | ||
| Well, because of the... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Leica camera lens. | ||
| Mmm, beautiful. | ||
| But, because I like taking photos. | ||
| Other side project, Jamie. | ||
| It wasn't Leica? | ||
| I have one. | ||
| Soggy. | ||
| No, I'm talking about the Huawei phone. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| They didn't put this lens. | ||
| So it was a lie? | ||
| Not a lie, but I read into it. | ||
| They hired Leica engineers to produce a Leica-style image through using software and whatnot. | ||
| They didn't actually have Leica glass. | ||
| I mean, let's be honest. | ||
| The iPhone takes a great photo, and I also have a little Fujifilm with a 50mm lens that I love, and it's really fun to learn how to use. | ||
| I'm getting there. | ||
| But overall, the Huawei is whatever. | ||
| Nobody else is back in Asher. | ||
| Ben's doing yoga. | ||
| Ben, what's going on with you? | ||
|
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That's what I'm literally Is it your grundle again? | |
| Jamie, you know a lot about photography and stuff like that. | ||
| Do you think that there's certain cults of brands like Sony versus Leica? | ||
| For the longest time it was Canon versus Nikon. | ||
|
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Right, right, right. | |
| The same way it's Apple versus Android. | ||
| There's a thing they do with hunting optics, too. | ||
| I use a lot of different stuff. | ||
| Leica has a whole different brand that is extended beyond cameras and whatnot. | ||
| But it's like they're all good, though. | ||
| It's like they're in denial that they're not all good. | ||
| It's very highly engineered glass from hundreds of years and proprietary methods. | ||
| It's so hard to detect the differences. | ||
| Like guys have to get them on tripods and like stare through the lenses and look at a parakeet and go, Mike, it's close. | ||
| That is the indicator. | ||
| And then they look at another one. | ||
| This is like a lens cut in half. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| I don't know for anybody that's looking. | ||
| That's really small. | ||
| I don't know the actual number of size. | ||
| Describe it? | ||
| This is really probably only a 2 or 3 inch lens. | ||
| And there's all that mechanic stuff going on inside there. | ||
| There's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 different... | ||
| What does the aperture get down to? | ||
| So it runs from 2.4... | ||
| Science! | ||
| It's like 16. I don't know this one in particular, but it's probably like a 2.4 or a 2.0. | ||
| I think we'll be cutting an $11,000 lens in half just to show it. | ||
| I got some other stuff going on. | ||
| Why do people wear powder wings? | ||
| Leica. | ||
| But this is why it's so expensive. | ||
| It's because they put all this into a tiny, tiny, tiny little package. | ||
| Like I'm saying, I can't show it on camera because I don't have it, but it's like two inches by two inches. | ||
| It's like a little two-inch cylinder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And DSLR cameras that would be similar to that. | ||
| The lens is 3 to 5 pounds. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Maybe 11 pounds. | ||
| Somewhere like 2 feet long. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| That's too much. | ||
|
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No! | |
| I want a camera nerd out with you later. | ||
|
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I only want an 8 inch hot dog. | |
| No 12 inches ever in my part. | ||
| Joseph. | ||
| Hot dogs. | ||
| What the fuck do we do now, guys? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| How's everyone feeling? | ||
|
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Everybody breathe. | |
| Let's Wim Hof our way out of this shit. | ||
| Wait, that's the breathing technique. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
|
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|
Wim Hof. | |
| Whoa. | ||
| Yes. | ||
|
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He's the first guy I ever talked to. | |
| Didn't give fuck if I breath out of my nose People send me videos of this man this is Then a certain dance between the cold and your breath begins to start up, begins to charge your body. | ||
| After 25 breaths like that, Very conscious in the cold. | ||
| The cold is a force and it has its impact. | ||
| I love his shirt, by the way. | ||
| And you go along with the cold and what it does on the physiology and you use your breathing. | ||
| Now I know what happens physiologically, but then those days it was all by feeling. | ||
| What does happen physiologically? | ||
| You become fully charged. | ||
| The carbon dioxide goes out. | ||
| O2 begins to roam freely throughout the body and fills up every cell. | ||
| And the pH levels go up. | ||
| When you say you altered your breathing, what you're showing me here is just breathing in and breathing out. | ||
| What's specifically different about that than normal breathing? | ||
| The way I used it was after 25 breaths. | ||
| It was so fully charged. | ||
| I could stay like five to seven minutes under the ice. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| Very controlled. | ||
| That means that there is not only a whole lot of oxygen inside the body, but the pH levels go up. | ||
| Now this, and later on I began to understand by signs, by thinking about it. | ||
| It's saturated with oxygen. | ||
| Yeah, deducting and all that. | ||
| I saw that we are able to tap into the brainstem, the adrenaline. | ||
| We showed lying in bed, people producing more adrenaline. | ||
| Now I know how to show it to people just in a couple of days. | ||
| That means every listener right now is able to do that. | ||
| So we have proven this scientifically and it showed that people lying in bed were able to produce more adrenaline than somebody in fear going for its first monkey jump. | ||
| I'm still confused as to how you're doing anything differently other than deep breathing. | ||
| You're taking a deep breathe in and deep breathe out. | ||
| No, we retent from breathing after exhalation. | ||
| Retent? | ||
| We stop breathing after exhalation. | ||
| Once, breathe in. | ||
| Show me the method. | ||
| If you go with me 30 times. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let go. | ||
| Fully in. | ||
| Once again. | ||
| Fully in. | ||
| Letting go. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Fully in. | ||
| But letting go. | ||
| Not fully out. | ||
| Just letting go. | ||
| But fully in. | ||
| Once again. | ||
| And once again. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Don't hesitate. | ||
| Give it. | ||
| It's about changing the chemistry right now in your body. | ||
| So I'm breathing in... | ||
| You become lightheaded and at a certain point you're so fully charged and the pH levels go to a very high level, you're able to stay without air in the lung for minutes. | ||
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What? | |
| Just keep on. | ||
| The feeling is understanding. | ||
| Go on. | ||
| And deeply in. | ||
| Letting go. | ||
| Deeply in, let him go. | ||
| Deeply in, let him go. | ||
| Ten times more. | ||
| Deeply in, let him go. | ||
| Deeply in, let him go. | ||
| I'm gonna time it. | ||
| Let him go. | ||
| Deeply in, let him go. | ||
| Give it fully. | ||
| Take him in, let him go. | ||
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Take him in, let him go. | |
| Take him in. | ||
| Letting go. | ||
| No hesitation. | ||
| I do this with the ovary as well. | ||
| And it feels wonderful. | ||
| Take him in. | ||
| Fully letting go. | ||
| All through the mouth? | ||
| Not like no mouth. | ||
| Okay, five times more. | ||
| Deeply in. | ||
| Letting go. | ||
| Deeply in. | ||
| Letting go. | ||
| Deeply in. | ||
| Letting go. | ||
| Two times more. | ||
| Letting go and stop. | ||
| Just stop. | ||
| Witness. | ||
| Without air in the lungs, you are able to stay much more than normally. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because we changed your chemistry. | ||
| Carbon dioxide went out, O2 went up, filled up all the cells and the pH levels go up. | ||
| Then we are able to tap into the central nervous system and at the end we got the brainstem. | ||
| And that's the place of the pineal gland, hypothalamus, pituitary gland. | ||
| And the pineal gland makes the secretion of adrenaline in dangerous situations. | ||
| Normally we do not get into it because of our shallow breathing. | ||
| But this is the way to get into the most primitive part, the reptilian brain, without many difficulties and fend off bacteria, getting better into the endocrine systems. | ||
| We'll talk about it later. | ||
| You're past 110 in minutes and you're still on. | ||
| That shows that the capacity to fill yourself up with oxygen is a lot more than we normally use. | ||
| And as we do not use it, we are not making a use of the full capacity of our physiology. | ||
| Now we found out we got a different layers. | ||
| And we never use it. | ||
| And this is the way to learn to use it, to tap in and bang, into the primitive brain, into the endocrine systems, immune systems, the way nature has meant it to be. | ||
| Everybody is able to do it. | ||
| 145, and this is only round one. | ||
| If we would do like three rounds, you would go to three minutes, four minutes, without air, without training. | ||
| It only shows the capacity to store up oxygen inside. | ||
| We never use that. | ||
| You're doing great. | ||
| See, he's doing already 2, 5, almost 2, 10. Whenever you feel the urge to breathe, you don't need to force. | ||
| It's only learning how to oxygenize the body and all the cells. | ||
| You're going great, man. | ||
| Nice one. | ||
| Feels good, huh? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay. | ||
| 2, 30-er. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you feel the urge to breathe, you breathe in fully and keep it for 10-15 seconds. | ||
| Then that's one round. | ||
| Fully in and keep it. | ||
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And now you press your belly. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| The neck and then the head. | ||
| And now you are able to tap into the brainstem. | ||
| Yeah, that's it! | ||
| That's insane. | ||
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How weird is it that we need to breathe? | |
| You don't even think about it. | ||
| You need gas in your cell sacks. | ||
| It hit me when he was talking about shallow breathing because when I was really dealing with insomnia, that would be like this thing. | ||
| I never felt like I could... | ||
| I just didn't have that capacity. | ||
| I want to say, too, something you talk about a lot. | ||
| You talked about it today. | ||
| Singing is a healthy expression of that kind of breathing. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I injured my vocal cords and had to go through therapy, and this style of breathing, this is something was addressed and learned to do, and it was incredible how fast I healed myself just through breathing. | ||
| There's also something when people talk loudly, whether they're singing or speaking, there's a thing that we do where we strain the vocal cords. | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and that's been a crazy, we were talking about it today. | ||
| Pushing when it comes to your breath and singing is completely antithetical to what you're trying to do. | ||
| And now you're like caught up in the momentum of trying to get people to pay attention. | ||
| But someone like Marvin Gaye or James Brown, they're so calm in those moments, or at least in relation to that behavior, that they're able to resonate with their bone structure in a way that makes you react emotionally. | ||
| Because they're so connected to their breath. | ||
| People talk, Ginsburg talked about Bob Dylan that way. | ||
| He said he got to this point when he was at kind of his peak in the 60s of that power. | ||
| He said Dylan became a column of air. | ||
| He's just breathing. | ||
| He just turned into a focused breath. | ||
| I think that Sturgill, when he nails it... | ||
| He's an incredible artist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sturgill, he catches this fucking vibration when some of his songs are like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, he's special. | ||
| And I think he's lucky it came so late for him because he had so much ground underneath him that he could make real artistic decisions. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| I feel like that about Nathaniel Rateliff, too. | ||
| A lot! | ||
| It came later for him, too. | ||
| Almost all! | ||
| It doesn't mean you have to have it. | ||
| Taylor Swift could be amazing. | ||
| You don't have to define her by who she was X amount of years ago. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| But the reality is, whatever it is, it's how you address it and how you express it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when you get a guy like Sturgill that was working on the fucking railroads until he's like 36. Yeah. | ||
| It's authentic as fuck. | ||
| He was working on railroads! | ||
| Yeah, Ryan Bingham's a friend of ours. | ||
| We've toured with him a bunch. | ||
| He's similar in that, like... | ||
| I remember Ryan Bingham, he's a beautiful man. | ||
| He was in... | ||
| Jeff Bridges. | ||
| Jeff Bridges' movie. | ||
| Crazy Heart. | ||
| Crazy Heart. | ||
| That was a great movie. | ||
| He wrote the theme song for it. | ||
| He won an Oscar for it. | ||
| And he dedicated his Oscar to his wife. | ||
| It was really beautiful. | ||
| But Ryan Bingham, we toured with him a lot. | ||
| And I remember saying, Ryan, I love your... | ||
| You have such great teeth. | ||
| He's like, this shit ain't real. | ||
| I got my teeth kicked out by a bull when I was 18. And I was like, right. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| But, like, he is just, like, he is a cowboy. | ||
| He's from Texas. | ||
| He's an incredible songwriter, and he's a wonderful person. | ||
| And he's one of those that you're just like, that is the real deal. | ||
| And, you know, we're all the real deal in our real different ways, you know? | ||
| But, like, some people have had, like... | ||
| Acutely different paths like Sturgill and it's just like tip of the hat man. | ||
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It's it's really really special like everybody It's all different, you know It's like it's not a contest see who's fucked up more not that that's not what I want that's what so another Music thing is that's a medium. | |
| You just expressing it's not accomplishment base It's different from sport sport offers different shit, but with music The people with the clearest expression of self are the communicators, as opposed to this degree of achievement. | ||
| And I think that's just a beautiful and linguistic part of it. | ||
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It's weird, right? | |
| Because sports is like, I want to dunk on you, you want to dunk on me, fuck you! | ||
| Competition is an interesting thing in terms of development. | ||
| It helps people excel, but it also represses people. | ||
| It's like that big fish in a little pond, little fish in a big pond thing. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| Competition without compassion. | ||
| It's not that competition is bad. | ||
| Competition is good. | ||
| But being a dick is bad. | ||
| And the problem is the two of them go hand to hand. | ||
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That's really the problem. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Is that people that want to win in competition, they can also be a dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not necessary. | ||
| Which is why when I beat you in pool the last time I was on the podcast, I didn't bring it up. | ||
| I was like, internally just like... | ||
| Dude, I had like three balls on the table. | ||
| Suzanne shot that eight in the corner. | ||
| I was like, no. | ||
|
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No! | |
| All bullshit. | ||
| Suzanne Santo can play a little bull. | ||
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I noticed he didn't mention me in that. | |
| Ben Jaffe can play a little bull as well. | ||
| But you never beat me, bitch. | ||
| Suzanne beat me at least one game. | ||
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But in your defense, we were super fucked up. | |
| We were definitely super fucked up and we were having fun. | ||
| We started talking about Spotify and I couldn't hit a ball. | ||
|
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Ah! | |
| I was like, I don't know what happened. | ||
| Yeah, it was tough. | ||
| We weren't focused. | ||
| We weren't focused. | ||
| I don't even believe life. | ||
| How are people going to sort through your shit on Spotify? | ||
| It's the same people, man. | ||
| If you have Spotify, you can't have iTunes. | ||
| I don't know how many carryover people there are between both platforms. | ||
| I'm just saying, I guess you can absolutely search shit on Spotify. | ||
| I don't know what I'm talking about. | ||
| You definitely can search shit. | ||
| I was just thinking, I don't know what I'm talking about. | ||
| Stop talking. | ||
| No, it's alright. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
|
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It's weird. | |
| Move it to a new platform. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's mostly a mobile thing. | ||
| I guess that's why I always, when I think Spotify, I think my phone. | ||
| You know, when I think YouTube, I think my computer. | ||
| I mean, I do, but... | ||
| But I think you can see it on everything. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| You can listen on everything, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Is there a timeline with it? | ||
| September it starts, and then it becomes only on Spotify in January. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| I don't know if this is fucked up. | ||
| Did YouTube counteroffer? | ||
| There was no conversation. | ||
| No conversation? | ||
|
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Interesting. | |
| YouTube? | ||
| I have such a computer. | ||
| There's nothing, I don't have anything against YouTube, especially since I'm so drunk. | ||
| You are not alone, sir. | ||
|
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Yeah, let's work out. | |
| Are we done? | ||
| Can we work out? | ||
| Yeah, we definitely can. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with anything. | ||
| It's risky, Ben. | ||
| That's a good thing. | ||
| But, you know, the thing was like Spotify was like, let's do this shit together. | ||
| I'm like, okay. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| This is dangerous. | ||
| These waters are fraught with peril. | ||
|
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People are taking down ships and demonetizing. | |
| You were already global before, but now it's like... | ||
| It's great, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
|
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We have been friends for a long time, and I don't understand any of this. | |
| No, but you do something important. | ||
| It's special. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Accept it. | ||
| Accept whatever. | ||
| I'm going to tell you what I think. | ||
| It's weird for me and for you. | ||
| It's hashtag powerful. | ||
| She just did it. | ||
| I did it. | ||
| Jamie, what's the time on this podcast? | ||
| So long. | ||
| It's 6.30 now. | ||
| What time? | ||
| Four hours and 30 minutes? | ||
| Yeah, I already had to. | ||
| We're technically in my part, too. | ||
| I'm going to have to do some magic here to get it together. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Should we wrap it up right now? | ||
| Ben, let's play one song. | ||
| Let's play Whatcha Gonna Do Now because that's all I can conjure up. | ||
| Please, I'm on mushrooms. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| For fuck's sake. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| There's a technical issue. | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| Great. | ||
| I think we're fine. | ||
| If it's not, I'll figure it out. | ||
| We're going to play Whatcha Gonna Do Now because that's... | ||
| And I'm real fucked. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I love that song. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| That's great news. | ||
| Listen, I love you guys. | ||
| This is so exciting. | ||
|
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It's so great. | |
| It's so great. | ||
| What's the most exciting about this is this is one of the rare... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The most exciting thing is not just that I love you guys, but it's also, this is a rare moment where people get publicly fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And just... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we can talk about our problems openly. | ||
| Let shit fly. | ||
| It feels nice. | ||
| Let it fly, baby. | ||
| What, are you gonna live forever? | ||
| I mean, it's nice to do a four and a half hour podcast with you when we haven't seen you together in so long. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's reunion times, folks. | ||
| It means, no bullshit, it means a lot to me. | ||
| Oh my god, it means a lot to us. | ||
| When I first met you guys, I wasn't even performing at the comedy store. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I met you guys during the boycott era. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That, you know, I love you guys. | ||
| You're awesome. | ||
| Oh my god, we love you too. | ||
| Love you back. | ||
| So much. | ||
|
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All right, let's sing to the people and sing to Joe and Jamie. | |
| Oh, baby, that fire's coming down. that fire's coming down. | ||
| Right into your walls, right out of your mouth. | ||
| And everything you love's just ash on the ground. | ||
| so what you gonna do now? | ||
| So you run to the river, you run to the sea You sift through the rubble and search the debris But you won't find anything if you don't find peace Ooh, so what you gonna do now? | ||
| Don't wait till you die Cause you can always change your mind And make your eyes So why are you still waiting outside? | ||
| Maybe your mama didn't treat you right Maybe you just didn't sleep last night You know I don't give a damn why you wanna fight Oh so what you gonna do now? | ||
|
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Don't wait until you die. | |
| Cause you can always change your mind and make it right. | ||
| So why are you still waiting outside? | ||
|
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guitar solo | |
| So come out from the weeds and into my arms Ooh babe, I know the dark and how it can harm you Yeah, I've had my conscience rip me apart too So here's what we're gonna do now | ||
| Take all your needs and all your sins And | ||
| all of the losses you threw to the wind We'll carry the weight if it breaks every limb Oh, and that's what we're gonna do now Don't wait until you die Cause you can always change your mind and make it right | ||
| So why are you still waiting outside? | ||
| You're still waiting outside You're still waiting outside That was beautiful. | ||
| Thanks for having us, Joe. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Can you please do Angel of Death? | ||
| One more. | ||
| We can do it. | ||
| It's going to be sloppy, though. | ||
| I'm going to take my headphones off. | ||
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I'm going to chew some gum because my throat's real dry. | |
| All right, Joe. | ||
| You asked for it. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| I feel like this is what brought us together. | ||
| This one's going to tear us apart. | ||
|
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No! | |
| No! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I honestly might need to... | ||
| We'll put up the lyrics. | ||
| Now I got it. | ||
| Jamie's got you. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Tune up. | ||
| We haven't played this. | ||
| We've played it like once. | ||
| Jamie's got you. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Don't tell anybody I said that, even if this is on the internet. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| What? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Ben, we got this. | ||
| We got this. | ||
| I got you. | ||
| I haven't drank in a month. | ||
|
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We're all fucked up. | |
| But I had a great time. | ||
|
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Tone it. . | |
| How fun was this? | ||
| So much fun. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
|
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Right? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I wish I was a 14 year old girl. | ||
| You are! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So fun. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So fun. | ||
| Like the funnest. | ||
| The most fun. | ||
|
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Biggest fun. | |
| I love you guys. | ||
| The fact that we can do this. | ||
| Oh my god, this is amazing. | ||
| Get together and get blasted. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| Publicly! | ||
| Blasted! | ||
| Take that, public. | ||
| Take it! | ||
| I'm floating on the wind Until I find you You won't feel a change We'll just become the same thing And never spend a single day | ||
| apart Yes, I guess they have Oh, and yes, I've treated them the same as you All but quick I've let them dry And I licked the salty tea as they | ||
| cried And many went from many to afraid The angel of death, babe, the end is near Keep your hand on your chest, | ||
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don't let me whisper in your ear It's best to keep on walking, lock the door When I come knocking, mine's the voice you never wanna hear Maybe | |
| you'll be shocked by this admittance Cause things are rarely ever what they see Oh, | ||
| I don't mean you harmed by my existence Just let your tired eyes slip into dreams Cause I'm the angel of death, babe Keep your hand on your chest. | ||
|
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Don't let me whisper in your ear. | |
| It's best to keep on walking. | ||
| Lock the door when I come knocking. | ||
|
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Mine's the voice you never wanna hear. | |
| Yeah, mine's the voice you never want to hear. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| It brought us together! - Many. | ||
| A year ago. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That was awesome. | ||
| I mean, we are in it, guys. | ||
| We are in the... | ||
| We finished the bottle of booze. | ||
| Do we really? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We got real problems. | ||
| Respect. | ||
| We got mushrooms, allegedly. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| I was like, I didn't want to bring that up allegedly. | ||
| Move those cameras around. | ||
| Judiciously. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| And we're going to jail. | ||
| Fuck that! | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We need to fight for our rights. | ||
| We're going to be okay. | ||
| This is a safe space. | ||
| Dude, thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| This was the best time. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I can't tell you how lovely this has been. | ||
| It's been lovely for me too. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| You guys are awesome. | ||
| Mutual. | ||
| Ever since I met you, I knew. | ||
| I'm like, you guys are cool. | ||
| I'm really excited that you're friends with me and that you make this music that makes me feel like... | ||
| There's music that makes me realize that there's a purity in expression, you know? | ||
| Sometimes people put out stuff that you just listen to it and you go, oh yeah, that guy is telling the truth or she's speaking from the heart. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| And that's what you guys do. | ||
| So, from me to you. | ||
| Oh, right back at you. | ||
| King of Spotify! | ||
| Keep it coming! | ||
| Let's work out! | ||
| Young Jamie. | ||
|
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Jamie V. Jamie! | |
| Jamie! | ||
|
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Jamie! | |
| Honey, honey! | ||
| Back in action 2020! | ||
|
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The Yellowstone Volcano Tour! | |
| I want one! | ||
| I want one! | ||
| Good night, everybody! | ||
| Keep it fresh! | ||
| Keep it in the basement! | ||
| Keep it away from drones! | ||
|
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Oh my god! | |
| That was... |
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