May 16, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Bridget! | |
| Heyo! | ||
| You're here! | ||
| I came to make a citizen's arrest. | ||
| Oh, congrats. | ||
| It's touchy these days. | ||
| We're less than six feet apart, I believe. | ||
| I think we're okay. | ||
| Do we need to wear masks? | ||
| No, we don't. | ||
| Well, you don't. | ||
| You got tested, and I've been tested too. | ||
| I got one of the Joe Rogan tests. | ||
| I feel special. | ||
| You are special. | ||
| Did you see that the LA, they have a number now where you can turn in businesses that aren't complying? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| Why? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Who's doing that? | ||
| But this is bad government. | ||
| Listen, there's zero effort talking about giving people information on how to strengthen your immune system. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Zero effort. | ||
| Zero effort. | ||
| Talking to people about lowering stress levels through meditation and exercise. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| The importance of keeping your body healthy. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Zero talk about this. | ||
| Zero concentrating on the new data that's coming in about vitamins and all the different vitamin deficiencies. | ||
| Yes, Dr. Rhonda Patrick knocked it all out of the park on the podcast yesterday. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| These people are just like, stay home, locked up. | ||
| But aside from the government, snitches get stitches. | ||
| This is basic childhood etiquette. | ||
| Well, they were first given snitches for people who are violating social distancing, but now they're moving on to businesses that are non-compliant. | ||
| But how are you supposed to make money? | ||
| How are you supposed to make money? | ||
| I don't understand this. | ||
| Here's the crazy thing. | ||
| Garcetti said, we're going to keep L.A. on at least partial lockdown until there's a cure. | ||
| There's not going to be a cure, you fucking dummy. | ||
| It's a virus. | ||
| And isn't it a cold virus? | ||
| Yes, you don't cure viruses. | ||
| Unless you find a way to eradicate it from the actual gene pool. | ||
| But did he actually say that? | ||
| Yes, he said until there's a cure. | ||
| You can't say that. | ||
| First of all, I'm sure what he meant is like a viable treatment, a vaccine, but they're saying that even a vaccine, there's never been a coronavirus vaccine. | ||
| Mayor, LA will never completely reopen until we have a cure. | ||
| That's his quote. | ||
| That just seems... | ||
| I mean, we don't have a cure for the flu. | ||
| That poor lady who is the health lady, someone needs to give her a steak and let her lie outside in the sun. | ||
| Jesus Christ, you're the health lady. | ||
| I heard you're moving. | ||
| She looks tired. | ||
| That's been on the wires. | ||
| Listen, we're all talking about it. | ||
| All of us talk about it. | ||
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Everyone. | |
| Who? | ||
| All my friends. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh. | |
| Callan, Schaub, Joey Diaz, everyone. | ||
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You can just go start a Davidian ranch. | |
| We're going to call it a cult. | ||
| We're just going to be up front about it. | ||
| All these people hide the fact they have a cult. | ||
| We're just going to call it a cult. | ||
| Ten years from now, it's just Waco and it's Joe. | ||
| Yeah, no name. | ||
| We're just going to call it the cult. | ||
| We'll have the band play the cult. | ||
| Sanctuary. | ||
| That's a great band. | ||
| Underrated. | ||
| Super underrated band. | ||
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The cult? | |
| Love Removal Machine. | ||
| Holy fuck, that's a good jam to work out to. | ||
| I would probably join your cult. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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I would have you. | |
| I would have you in your cult. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, thank you. | |
| Basically, have everybody. | ||
| If you're nice, just be nice and tell the truth. | ||
| And if you fuck up, tell the truth about that. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| This is the idea of the cult. | ||
| We'll just call it the cult. | ||
| And we just get a gigantic chunk of land somewhere and start building. | ||
| What do I have to pay? | ||
| What We're the dudes. | ||
| No dudes. | ||
| No dudes. | ||
| That's the key. | ||
| That's where everything goes wrong. | ||
| Here's two ways things go wrong. | ||
| The cult leader, that's a problem. | ||
| You should never have a cult leader. | ||
| So you're not the leader. | ||
| No, there's no leader. | ||
| It's just an amorphous cult. | ||
| Yeah, I think everybody should be informed and get to vote. | ||
| That's how it should be. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But you have to be informed. | ||
| You can't just vote. | ||
| You've got to be informed and get to vote. | ||
| You're starting your own state. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| The state of Rosen. | ||
| But a few thousand acres. | ||
| That's all we need. | ||
| A few thousand acres in like Colorado or Montana. | ||
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And helicopters. | |
| Yeah! | ||
| I got out of this shit. | ||
| I got some plans. | ||
| I've been looking at Idaho. | ||
| Idaho's good. | ||
| I know. | ||
| By the way, Boise is, I don't even want to talk about it right now on the podcast, and I want to blow it up for Boise. | ||
| They get mad at me when I talk about going to Idaho. | ||
| They're like, don't give away our secret, let everyone go to Texas. | ||
| I did a show in Boise a little over a year ago, and I was like, I feel like I should not tell people about this. | ||
| This is a goddamn secret. | ||
| You guys have this really cool town. | ||
| Boise is a really cool town. | ||
| It's a little red. | ||
| But hey, I get along with people that are red, by the way, more a lot of times than I get along with people that are like, ideologically left, like without thinking about it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| There's people that are left because they're compassionate and they want people to have freedom and the choice to do whatever they want to do with their body. | ||
| Were you raised Democrat? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yes, Democrat. | ||
| I was raised hippie. | ||
| My parents were hippie. | ||
| My stepfather had long hair down to his ass. | ||
| My parents went from New Jersey, like a really Italian neighborhood, to San Francisco. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And then became a hippie. | ||
| But my stepdad was a hippie when my mom met him. | ||
| And then we moved across the country when I was seven. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We lived in San Francisco in the middle of where Lombard Street is. | ||
| It was all just flower children and gay people and fuck this war. | ||
| I was in San Francisco when the Vietnam War broke. | ||
| Okay, when I was a little kid when it ended when when the war ended rather and I remember thinking like wow, they're never gonna have war again. | ||
| They figured it out. | ||
| Thank God because I was worried You know, there's people that were around me that were you know, if there was younger folks are worried about being drafted And so you were pretty indoctrinated with all that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But I don't think that's what's going on here with the left today. | ||
| There's a lot of weird cult shit. | ||
| It really is like cult shit. | ||
| It's like religious shit. | ||
| It's like instead of thinking rationally and looking at the faults of both sides, the faults of one side are completely ignored or exonerated or, you know, you find a way to forgive it or to find out for... | ||
| You do mental gymnastics until you can... | ||
| Let them get away with all sorts of heinous shit, privacy invading shit, going after whistleblowers, drone attacks, like fucking across the board. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything, right? | ||
| But I would say this is true about the maggots, too. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You know, there's a certain amount of, I mean, speaking of cults, it's a little bit like deer leader-y. | ||
| They fell into something. | ||
| They fell into something. | ||
| They fell into the spell of a powerful figure. | ||
| They feel like they don't have a word in. | ||
| They feel like they're not represented. | ||
| First of all, it's really hard for assholes to find a king. | ||
| All kings are noble. | ||
| Most of the people that were running for president, most people that were president, they were at least outwardly noble. | ||
| They weren't the type of people that talk shit on someone, call someone horse face on Twitter. | ||
| There's a certain amount of dignity. | ||
| They're dignified to a certain extent. | ||
| And Trump is Trump. | ||
| Love him or hate him, he's Trump. | ||
| And assholes have a king now. | ||
| They never had a king before. | ||
| And there's a lot of assholes. | ||
| It's a large market. | ||
| Well, what's interesting I think on the left and what you're saying is it's more of a religion and it's a free-floating ideology that everybody's a bit enamored by, but they don't have that one personality that they rally around and that they focus on. | ||
| And they feel like they don't have a voice either. | ||
| So it's very similar feelings, I think, that drive that. | ||
| And it's similar also in that the really far-left people are the ones that people point to when they mock the left, whereas the vast majority of them don't fall into that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I've been hard on the left, hard on them. | ||
| And rightfully so, I think, to a certain extent, because I do see a lot of the stuff like the language policing and the erosion of... | ||
| Freedom of speech to a certain extent as deeply terrifying, but I've kind of been saying I see fascism, you know, on all sides kind of encroaching. | ||
| There's elements of it, the creepy worship of the cult of personality, the, you know, just abiding by this mob mentality. | ||
| And I've just been, I've been feeling pretty nihilistic. | ||
| But isn't it also because you've been locked up? | ||
| No, no, that's normal for me. | ||
| So what's making you feel more nihilistic? | ||
| I've never felt less optimistic about people's ability to govern themselves. | ||
| So this American experiment is supposed to be one in which it's smaller government and we... | ||
| We can, you know, we're adults. | ||
| We're grownups. | ||
| And now I feel like everybody's ratting on everybody else. | ||
| Everyone's looking to somebody to save them or tell them what to do. | ||
| There's this lack and it comes to the culture is just so lack of resilience, you know, just psychological resilience. | ||
| And so I don't know. | ||
| I've been feeling you don't know who to believe. | ||
| Where do you get where do you get your news from? | ||
| Where do you get your trusted news from? | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I've been not getting news. | ||
| Like, I just skim through things these days. | ||
| It's so frustrating. | ||
| First of all, there's too many series to follow. | ||
| There's the Obamagate series. | ||
| You gotta follow that. | ||
| That's nutcase. | ||
| Nutcase. | ||
| Nutcase. | ||
| The sitting president, exiting president, literally hires or gets the FBI to investigate Trump. | ||
| I don't know anything about Obamagate, but I did see a takedown of Obamagate that was pretty harsh, where the guy was like, it basically relies on you having to believe a series of conspiracy theories in order for it to even hold up. | ||
| And I am going to sit here right now before everyone's all like, I know nothing about Obamagate. | ||
| And I actually don't give a shit. | ||
| That might have been an older video. | ||
| That might have been an older video. | ||
| No, it's from last night. | ||
| Listen to Jimmy Dore's video on it. | ||
| Jimmy Dore's video is excellent. | ||
| And he breaks down exactly what the administration did. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that it's illegal. | ||
| And that you're essentially using the FBI to spy on Trump. | ||
| And then when it turned out that all that Russia stuff that they were claiming was going to happen didn't take place and that they knew it wasn't really happening to begin with. | ||
| What they were saying was all exaggerating and hyperbole, and they were trying to turn it into something that it wasn't. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't been following it. | ||
| It's all not good. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| What's the other story that we need to follow? | ||
| There's so many series. | ||
| There's so many going on right now, right? | ||
| Is Joe Biden losing his fucking mind? | ||
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Oh. | |
| Like, do they have him locked in a basement somewhere and they're pumping up steroids and coke right before he does an interview? | ||
| Weren't they going to do like a whole Fortnite thing where he was going to be a, you know, what are they called? | ||
| A hologram in Fortnite or something? | ||
| And I'm like, this is going to be our first hologram president. | ||
| Oh, a hologram debate, right? | ||
| Do you put anything beyond the realm of possibility at the point that we're at, though, in the world? | ||
| Doesn't it feel like we live in a fucking simulation? | ||
| It does. | ||
| Kevin Rose. | ||
| You know Kevin Rose from Dig? | ||
| He put something up on his page a couple of days ago. | ||
| I retweeted it. | ||
| It's the new Unreal Engine. | ||
| Unreal 5. Oh, I saw that. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| It's like movie stuff. | ||
| And it's in-game action. | ||
| So the in-game action... | ||
| Now, there's a scene where the character that you're playing... | ||
| It's a third-person game. | ||
| And you're... | ||
| Moving this girl around and she runs up this hill and as she runs up the hill you see like rocks falling and you see the shadows it's spectacular and Kevin said you know he tweeted it to me and he said look at this and imagine I believe he said 25 50 100 years from now of course we're in a simulation because this is this is going to be just as realistic in 25 50 100 years from now as the world that you're experiencing right now But isn't | ||
| there the question that we don't know that this isn't? | ||
| Yeah, that is the question. | ||
| I mean, there's a guy that I had on Nick Bostrom that explained it to me that my feeble brain was having a hard time calculating it. | ||
| But he's basically saying that, according to probability theory, we are in a simulation. | ||
| It's more probable that we are than that we're not. | ||
| My friend was saying that they would start doing things like this, leading you to believe you're in a simulation. | ||
| If people in the simulation started becoming self-aware, they'd start making you think you're in a simulation so that you could doubt it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Built-in fail-saves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But that makes sense, right? | ||
| So I'm going to ask you, Jimmy Dore, you get news from him? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I get news from Kyle Kalinske, Jimmy Dore. | ||
| My political news is all from The Hill. | ||
| Jimmy Dore and Kyle Kalinske. | ||
| The Hill is Crystal and Sagar. | ||
| I always say his name wrong. | ||
| They have a really good political show. | ||
| Kyle Kalinske is very well versed in exactly what's going on, and he's critical of both sides, as is Jimmy Dore. | ||
| Neither one of those is partisan. | ||
| Both those guys, even though they're left, both progressive guys, they're very open-minded and very honest about what's going wrong and what's wrong about it. | ||
| Jimmy Dore, especially, he has some fucking epic rants. | ||
| An epic rant recently about when people tried to whitewash the negative things that happened during the Obama administration. | ||
| He's like, you guys are gaslighting people. | ||
| This is what happens when you have your standard, you know, this is the relationship, right? | ||
| A guy goes into office. | ||
| He promises a bunch of stuff. | ||
| Can't really do them, but people like the way he talks. | ||
| Does some things that maybe aren't so good. | ||
| You find out later. | ||
| And then he gets out and he makes shh. | ||
| Shit loads of money doing speeches. | ||
| And Jimmy Dore highlights that, that he's making, he's even openly talking about it. | ||
| That press correspondence dinner, you know that joke you get? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He talked about how he's going to try those lines out at Goldman Sachs after he did them there. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And then he said he was going to make him some serious Tubmans. | ||
| They're taking over all the streaming. | ||
| I saw a whole thing about how- Who's they? | ||
| The Obamas, I think, they're getting into the streaming game, and I read somewhere that the Clintons are that could be wrong. | ||
| Well, the Obamas apparently have some sort of a deal with Netflix to produce shows, documentaries, and then they have a deal where they're doing podcasts as well. | ||
| Did you like Obama? | ||
| I like him as a spokesperson and as a figurehead of who the president is. | ||
| I mean, he's a handsome guy. | ||
| He's incredibly articulate, really well-spoken. | ||
| The way he speaks is like a statesman. | ||
| I mean, he's always calm and collected. | ||
| There's a lot about him I really like. | ||
| There's a lot about him. | ||
| But politics is a crazy, messy, impossible-to-do-right business that no one has nailed. | ||
| Especially at the highest levels. | ||
| No one's nailed it. | ||
| I don't know why he didn't do what he said he was going to do before he got into office. | ||
| I don't know what they revealed to him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But when you listen, if someone does an accurate job of breaking down what went wrong, particularly what's going on with this Flynn case, where they're trying to drop all the charges and then some new judges coming in saying, no, we're not dropping shit. | ||
| I just feel so ill-equipped to process this stuff. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Because I'm not a lawyer. | ||
| I'm not a politician. | ||
| I'm an idiot on YouTube. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I'm an idiot right here. | ||
| And I don't know anything. | ||
| And I often hear, even in my comments on the dumpster fire, they're like, oh, I get all my news from you and Joe Rogan. | ||
| I'm like, no! | ||
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No. | |
| Don't do it. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| No, don't get it from me or you. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| I am not a trusted news source. | ||
| But then I'm like, but I don't know who is. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know who is either. | ||
| I'm here to talk shit, okay? | ||
| And if I'm wrong, which is often, I will let you know. | ||
| I'm not here to lie, but I'm here to talk shit. | ||
| That's what I'm here to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I don't... | ||
| The show, we just basically make fun of how bonkers everything is. | ||
| And I... But I don't have any answers. | ||
| I don't know what the... | ||
| Freaking pathway forward out of this ship show is it seems like it's gonna get worse before it gets better which is my fear it certainly is gonna get worse it has to get worse unless the the world starts back up and there's some sort of a shift in treatment some sort of a shift in and how much More survivable the disease is. | ||
| It's pretty survivable. | ||
| The disease. | ||
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Are we back to COVID? That's what's wrong with everything right now. | |
| Until that gets solved, the politics is just amplified. | ||
| What that is, it's like gasoline to the fire of partisanship. | ||
| Because everybody's in a panic and everyone's fearful and so many people are going to be unemployed. | ||
| And when people are unemployed, that's when Hitler kicked in, by the way. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because people were acting true in Germany. | ||
| No, I know, I know. | ||
| People get scared. | ||
| You're not making any arguments against that Trump is literally Hitler. | ||
| I don't think he's Hitler. | ||
| No, I know, I know. | ||
| I think he's Trump. | ||
| I think he's always been the same guy. | ||
| It's just that now they've expected so much more of him. | ||
| They've now expected him to be a statesman. | ||
| Yeah, and I think people are desperate. | ||
| And that's what scares me is that, you know, even in the city, there's just more crime in my neighborhood. | ||
| There's more. | ||
| Now everyone's wearing a fucking mask. | ||
| It's easy to do crime. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| You're either a superhero or you commit crimes. | ||
| And I definitely see... | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Like, where I live in L.A. is a bit of a crossroads area. | ||
| And it's a little bit... | ||
| Like, crossroads are the big freeways and some of the big arteries of the roads. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| At night, because everybody's locked down, it's all the, like, drifters and homeless people. | ||
| And it feels fucking weird when you go out in L.A. at night. | ||
| It's all just... | ||
| It's like zombies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Nothing's open. | ||
| Yeah, so nothing's open and no one's on the road, but there's just like this kind of drifter population in LA, and they're the only ones that you see, so it's so highlighted right now. | ||
| Is anybody doing a tally on how many more homeless people there are? | ||
| What I wonder is... | ||
| 40% increase. | ||
| I just saw last night. | ||
| They're expected over the next 12 months, I think. | ||
| 40% increase. | ||
| So go from 70,000 to like... | ||
| What is that? | ||
| 85, 87,000? | ||
| Something like that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What in the fuck? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| I mean, it's hitting LA hard because most of the people were, like, freelancers. | ||
| You know, everybody's in the gig economy here. | ||
| Everyone I fucking knew drove Uber. | ||
| Who is trying to make it as a comic or trying to make it as... | ||
| Any creative is doing... | ||
| Has a side hustle. | ||
| So you take away... | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| The makeup artists. | ||
| All the people who are working in music. | ||
| All the people that are no longer in work because there are no live music shows. | ||
| All the people lighting. | ||
| It's so bottomless in this town. | ||
| I'm worried about L.A. You should be worried because we have a guy who's running it that thinks that the solution is keep everybody home. | ||
| That's not the solution. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| And now they're saying crazy things. | ||
| Like, I'll read you a quote because this quote is fucking nuts. | ||
| Someone sent it to me and I read it and I was like, is that real? | ||
| Did he really say that? | ||
| And he was talking about the mandatory wearing of masks. | ||
| And so this is the quote he said. | ||
| Bring your mask with you whenever you leave your home, Garcetti said, that will help us get more freedoms. | ||
| What? | ||
| That will help us get more freedoms. | ||
| I'm fine with wearing a mask in establishments, banks, or wherever. | ||
| But walking, like on a walk with my dog with no one around, I'm not giving anyone the fucking coronavirus. | ||
| You're stopping our freedoms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're fucking it up for everybody, Bridget. | ||
| Go on. | ||
| Get our freedoms. | ||
| Earn our freedoms. | ||
| Drive around with your mask on. | ||
| See, and I, again, I think here's my suggestion. | ||
| Please get two constitutional lawyers on your show and have them debate the constitutionality of this. | ||
| Because I would like, I know there's precedent. | ||
| There were two states that voted that the lockdowns were, even now, they voted in favor of them. | ||
| And so I think... | ||
| Michigan was one, and I can't remember the other one, maybe Pennsylvania or somewhere. | ||
| So there's precedent, and there are people who are saying this isn't violating our rights, but I would really love to hear two people who aren't idiots, like me, have a discussion about whether or not this is the case. | ||
| Johnson overturned it and then they had all these bars and all these people were just getting hammered in the bars and people were really pissed off because the bars are packed with people. | ||
| I think people are getting pissed off because it looks like fun. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| I think they're using the excuse like, oh, you're going to transmit the disease. | ||
| And I think what's really going on is they don't want anybody having any fun. | ||
| And they're depressed now. | ||
| And when people are depressed, misery loves company. | ||
| They want everybody to be depressed. | ||
| They don't want anybody fucking listening to Garth Brooks singing, I Got Friends in Low Places, throwing back Jack Daniels and high-fiving each other. | ||
| I grew up with that. | ||
| That was my upbringing in Minnesota. | ||
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I've been there. | |
| You just described my high school years. | ||
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I got friends. | |
| It's a great song when you're hammered. | ||
| If you're hammered at a country western bar and that comes on, you're like, woo! | ||
| Right? | ||
| Good times. | ||
| Jack Daniels too. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You just described my exact high school. | ||
| Any kind of whiskey. | ||
| Bring it in that Buffalo Trace. | ||
| Give me some of that Dan Aykroyd Skull Vodka. | ||
| What's that stuff called? | ||
| Crystal Skull. | ||
| Crystal Skull Vodka. | ||
| Yeah, I think that most people can balance the two worries. | ||
| You know, the concern about their family, their economics. | ||
| A lot of people are worried about their own concerns. | ||
| Safety and sickness. | ||
| If you look online, you would think there's just two groups. | ||
| The people who are shut-ins and the people who are grandma killers or whatever. | ||
| Right, because you're insensitive and you want to go outside. | ||
| But I think most people live in the gray. | ||
| They live in the area of saying, okay, we understand that this is new and we don't know really shit about it. | ||
| And I understood it as we were supposed to stay home so we could flatten the curve, which I thought we did. | ||
| We for sure flattened it. | ||
| And help our places, like the hospitals, catch up. | ||
| Which we did. | ||
| And now they're going out of business. | ||
| Because there's no one there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and they said we need more ventilators. | ||
| Well, now it turns out that the people that go on the ventilators don't do well. | ||
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I saw that. | |
| How crazy is that? | ||
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I'm like, how funny is it going to be when it comes out that ventilators are killing people? | |
| Well, that's what Michael Yeo's doctor said. | ||
| I mean, not funny. | ||
| It's not funny, but it is funny. | ||
| But it's ironic. | ||
| As long as you're really far away from it. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| I know people who are worried, and I have a family member in the hospital right now. | ||
| I'm concerned, but it's also... | ||
| With COVID? They don't know. | ||
| I'm not sure that they've tested him yet. | ||
| But that was the other thing. | ||
| It's weird when they test you and they don't. | ||
| And so I don't mean to laugh at it. | ||
| It's a serious thing. | ||
| It is. | ||
| That happens a lot. | ||
| Well, that's the problem is that we're only thinking of COVID. And meanwhile, the flu is still here. | ||
| People are still dying from the flu. | ||
| Tuberculosis is still killing people left and right. | ||
| The heart disease is ruthless. | ||
| Cancer is not stopping. | ||
| All these things are happening to people right now while we're worried about COVID. It just highlights how fragile we are. | ||
| We are. | ||
| It's that old saying that's been around forever that soft times make soft people. | ||
| This is just what we're seeing right now. | ||
| We've had some soft fucking times. | ||
| And now, all of a sudden, a huge dose of adversity. | ||
| In a point where there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| It used to be when people... | ||
| When their business failed, you could probably point to one thing. | ||
| Like, oh, he got sick. | ||
| Or, oh, they lost a loan. | ||
| Or, oh, he started drinking. | ||
| Or, oh, whatever. | ||
| You could point to a reason why the business went under. | ||
| Now it's you can't work. | ||
| They won't let you work. | ||
| You can't even make the decision yourself to work. | ||
| It's crazy! | ||
| And again, I believe there was precedent for lockdowns like in the 1918 flu pandemic. | ||
| I think this isn't because, you know, you talk about adversity and when this first started happening and people were asked to do this, I understand taking away someone's livelihood and not giving them any right to work is... | ||
| Obviously something that's bullshit. | ||
| But also, no one's had to make any sacrifice either. | ||
| So we're talking about a generation that hasn't experienced much adversity and hasn't experienced having to sacrifice because my grandfather went off to war, you know, when he was 18 years old. | ||
| Right, you got drafted. | ||
| He didn't get drafted. | ||
| He just went because it was World War II. But there was an attitude of sacrifice that you made for your country. | ||
| And so people, I think, the reason people got so on board behind this was they felt like they were doing the right thing, their civic duty. | ||
| I mean, I think a lot of it was fear for their own... | ||
| But I also think that it was a sense of civic pride and duty, and I actually don't think that's a bad thing, that people rallied to help save our most vulnerable people. | ||
| That's good, but at what point are we now hurting more people than we're saving? | ||
| Yeah, I totally agree with you. | ||
| My thoughts on the lockdown in the beginning were, this is great because this shows that people can act together To protect people when they're not worried about it themselves. | ||
| I wasn't worried about it myself. | ||
| I know a lot of people that weren't worried about it. | ||
| They're like, well, if I get sick, I'm healthy, and I take care of my body, and it seems like, according to the actual statistics, I'm going to probably be okay. | ||
| But some people aren't, so it's lockdown. | ||
| Let's lock down. | ||
| Let's not go anywhere. | ||
| Let's just let this ride out. | ||
| Let's chill and see what's going on. | ||
| Yeah, let it ride out. | ||
| Let these super smart people figure this out. | ||
| And the images coming out of Italy were terrifying. | ||
| And, you know, my friend was in Italy. | ||
| They were in lockdown in Rome for months. | ||
| And they were all singing from balconies. | ||
| And she said she was saying watching America from Italy. | ||
| It's funny because you guys are so partisan about everything. | ||
| She's like, we've been through so many wars in Italy that there's a sense that the community can suck it up and rally together for a little bit for the good of the community. | ||
| We don't have that. | ||
| There's also like 10,000 people over there. | ||
| Who the fuck's over there? | ||
| They don't have very many people in Italy. | ||
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So little. | |
| And I think what we're experiencing now is what happens when people who are in power don't understand the responsibility that they have. | ||
| And they also don't understand that this is a multi-faceted problem. | ||
| You can't just look at hospitals and PPE and old people that are dying. | ||
| You have to look at the fucking economy. | ||
| You have to look at all the human beings that are sacrificing. | ||
| People that are losing their jobs, people that are losing their livelihoods for no reason that makes sense to them. | ||
| They're being forced to not work and they don't get it. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| Yeah, and they're going to be angry. | ||
| And rightfully, there are so many groups too that I worry about small businesses. | ||
| They're never going to recover. | ||
| And this is really, unfortunately, the kind of march of... | ||
| Amazon and all of these places that now suddenly you have any little small business mom and pop. | ||
| So I started doing free advertisements for small businesses on my not huge podcast that I have, but just to help people out. | ||
| But can they work? | ||
| You're doing advertisements. | ||
| Can these people... | ||
| Well, they can. | ||
| Well, this one particular, it's a 100-year-old company, and they sell clothes up in Portland, and it was a dad and his son who were running it, and they were about to celebrate their 100 years, and they can sell the clothes online, but because they had so many huge brands, so many huge stores cancel their orders, and... | ||
| What's their company's name? | ||
| I have to look. | ||
| Jesus, woman, you should be prepared. | ||
| I'm sorry, I didn't know I was going to bring their grade. | ||
| Let's try to pump them up. | ||
| And the other thing that I was thinking about a lot... | ||
| Let's get their name before we forget, though. | ||
| Keep talking, keep talking. | ||
| You keep talking. | ||
| I love the fact that you're doing that, though. | ||
| That's really cool. | ||
| What have you been hearing from your audience? | ||
| People are scared. | ||
| They're worried. | ||
| The people that are prone to fear are really scared because they're concentrating on the worst aspects of the disease. | ||
| Out of all my friends, Ari's the biggest pussy. | ||
| He's scared more than anybody. | ||
| Everybody else is basically not worried about it and doesn't want to get it. | ||
| But now I know nine people that have gotten it. | ||
| And everyone's been fine except for Michael Yeo. | ||
| And I also found out yesterday that Michael Yeo told me that not only did he do all those things like fly to New York, do all the radio, do different shows, do the shows at night, fly back on very little sleep, and then drive to Vegas and drive home, but he's also vitamin D deficient. | ||
| So when he saw the Rhonda Patrick podcast and saw the post that are put up on Instagram that showed how, you know, there's a massive difference between the number of people that are in critical condition in the ICU that are vitamin D deficient versus vitamin D sufficient. | ||
| And the vitamin D sufficient was really low, like 4%, whereas the vitamin D deficient was a huge percentage of the people that were in the ICU. Huge. | ||
| And this is not just in... | ||
| This was in Indonesia. | ||
| There was a study in New Orleans and a study in somewhere else. | ||
| But all of them came to a very similar conclusion. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't mean that vitamin D is going to absolutely protect you from this, but... | ||
| Rhonda Patrick, if you go to my Instagram post, she actually breaks down why this is significant. | ||
| When someone else was a little bit critical about it, she stepped in and broke down why it was so important. | ||
| 70% also of the US population is vitamin D insufficient and 28.9% are deficient in vitamin D. Deficient in vitamin D is very bad. | ||
| That's 28.9% of our entire population. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So more than a quarter of our population is deficient in a really important hormone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's a hormone. | ||
| It's not just a vitamin. | ||
| She was breaking it down in a brilliant way on the podcast. | ||
| I like her a lot. | ||
| She's a wizard. | ||
| She is a wizard. | ||
| And now we can't go outside. | ||
| You can go outside. | ||
| I mean, I can go outside, but we can go... | ||
| They open the trails, right? | ||
| Well, some places, some places not. | ||
| Okay, I got the name. | ||
| What's crazy is some of the beaches they had closed, and they had the beaches closed in all the Republican areas. | ||
| What's the name of the Portland place? | ||
| It's... | ||
| I always mess up how to say it. | ||
| It's D-E-H-E-N 1920, which is when they've been in business. | ||
| And they have cool clothes. | ||
| So they opened right after the Spanish flu pandemic and right before the Great Depression. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they wrote it out all the way to 2020. And they wrote it out. | ||
| And they were about to send... | ||
| And, you know, brick-and-mortar businesses were already in trouble. | ||
| And now this is just the nail in the coffin. | ||
| So what's the website called? | ||
| It's D-E-H-E-N 1920.com. | ||
| D-E-H-E-N 1920.com. | ||
| Go support them. | ||
| Go support them. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| I'm glad you're doing that. | ||
| That's very cool. | ||
| So we've been talking to just, you know, I reached out to my audience and A lot of people are okay, and so they're willing to make the sacrifice. | ||
| A lot of people have their own health worries that they're worried about. | ||
| People who are overweight or diabetic are obviously more concerned, and that's a problem in our country. | ||
| One of the things that I've been thinking a lot about is just the school. | ||
| And my uncle and I were talking about this that year... | ||
| Especially the vulnerable kids. | ||
| Kids who are in homes that are abusive or kids who already are at a disadvantage. | ||
| Maybe they live in the vulnerable communities and education is one of the only ways out of their circumstances. | ||
| There's already something, I believe it's called the summer gap, and they fall very far behind because they don't have, like, summer camps and they don't have all the access that some other kids do. | ||
| And now they're missing almost a year or half of a year, six months. | ||
| And this is time that these kids are never going to get back. | ||
| So I'm worried about those kids. | ||
| You know, there are so many... | ||
| All of this stuff, it hurts the poorest. | ||
| You know, really, it's a disease that hurts. | ||
| It's not even... | ||
| It's a divider. | ||
| Yeah, but it's a monetary thing, really. | ||
| It really comes down to if you're poor, this is going to hurt you a lot. | ||
| But this is also a disease where wealthy people can lose everything. | ||
| People that have had a really good run and had a great business and built it up for years and years and years and worked hard, all of a sudden, boom, it could be gone and you could have nothing. | ||
| Right. | ||
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So have you heard... | |
| That's real possible. | ||
| Have you heard, anecdotally, just stories of that from people? | ||
| My friends who own gyms, they're going under. | ||
| Yeah, that's one of the things that kills me, too. | ||
| All these, like, jujitsu places and the places where kids go, little camps. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| There's a place by me that's one of the gymnastics places that I used to take the autistic kids to go to and I don't know how they're gonna make it. | ||
| I don't understand how they're justifying keeping kids out of school. | ||
| It's not a disease that is killing kids. | ||
| The amount of kids that die from this disease are very small. | ||
| Much smaller than the flu. | ||
| Much smaller. | ||
| So if you look at how many kids die from the flu and you look at how many kids die from COVID, we should be terrified of the flu. | ||
| But yet, we'll let our kids go to school with teachers and we're not checking these teachers to make sure these teachers don't have the flu. | ||
| Yeah, and they often go teach with the flu. | ||
| Yeah, the real question is, do the teachers have something and can they give it to the kids and the kids go home and touch grandma and give it to her and give it to people that are vulnerable? | ||
| Yeah, that's a real question. | ||
| But that's not insurmountable. | ||
| That's something you need to test people for. | ||
| What's insurmountable is keeping schools closed. | ||
| What's insurmountable is keeping businesses closed. | ||
| It's not insurmountable to test everybody. | ||
| That's not that hard. | ||
| That's way easier than asking the entire economy to pause for half a fucking year because you don't have any better answers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, that's what's so upsetting is the failure to have planned at all for anything like this. | ||
| Like, you're going to shut the whole fucking economy off with no plan. | ||
| And then they're basically like, here's $1,200. | ||
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Peace. | |
| Good luck to you. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
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Good luck, guys. | |
| One-time payment and good luck getting it. | ||
| And fuck you. | ||
| Mark Hillcliffe? | ||
| He's got CBD in it. | ||
| Don't be scared. | ||
| Tim Dillon was. | ||
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I'm not scared. | |
| Tim Dillon wouldn't even drink it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He was scared. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was scared. | ||
| You get blasted. | ||
| Because he's so clean and sober and doing so well. | ||
| So am I. I know. | ||
| That's why I said, are you scared? | ||
| No, I'm not scared. | ||
| Good. | ||
| It's not psychoactive. | ||
| It's just CBD. I am worried about it. | ||
| I always check on the people. | ||
| I'm like, how's everyone doing? | ||
| Because the other thing that bothers me and worries me is mental health. | ||
| I have a lot of single female friends and they haven't hugged anyone in like two months. | ||
| This is what we do to people when we put them in prison, and we put people in isolation because it's really one of the worst things you can do to a human. | ||
| And so all of these people in isolation who might already be wrestling with depression, anxiety, or whatever mental illness or problems they have now are alone and isolated, and I'm worried. | ||
| I'm worried about people. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
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You should be. | |
| It's not good for single men, single women, single anybody. | ||
| Have you ever moved to a place where you didn't have any friends? | ||
| Yeah, I moved every year and a half growing up. | ||
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Me too. | |
| I moved a lot growing up. | ||
| I'm very, very familiar with sitting alone. | ||
| I cannot watch people sit alone and eat, especially in a lunchroom, because it's trigger alert. | ||
| It's too much like, oh, I was the girl sitting alone for so long. | ||
| I remember when I first moved to LA in 94, I came out here to do a TV show, and I didn't know anybody. | ||
| So I basically went to the set, and then I went to the comedy store, and I went to the gym. | ||
| And that's basically it. | ||
| I didn't have any friends for a long time. | ||
| And I remember I was on the set, and this girl gave me a hug. | ||
| And I remember thinking, God, that feels... | ||
| So good. | ||
| Like, not just a hug. | ||
| You weren't dating or anything? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| She's just like, give me a hug. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, you went in this time when you were like Jim on your little hamster wheel. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I wasn't dating anybody. | ||
| No. | ||
| I was just doing this stupid TV show. | ||
| And I had a girlfriend back in New York, but we're kind of on the outs. | ||
| And then I was just sort of settling in to whether or not I was going to stay out there. | ||
| I'd be good with vodka. | ||
| It's delicious, right? | ||
| For the record. | ||
| This is the grape one. | ||
| But anyway, this girl hugged me on the set. | ||
| And I don't think I'd ever gone that long without a hug. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And it was like a couple weeks. | ||
| And I was like, oh. | ||
| Like when you're thirsty and you get a drink of water. | ||
| Not just, every hug feels good. | ||
| It's like nice. | ||
| But this was different. | ||
| This was like I needed it. | ||
| Yeah, because people do need to... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People need each other. | ||
| We need each other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Part of the reason... | ||
| I read a really interesting article. | ||
| Part of the reason that Italy, the death toll was so high is there's a lot more intergenerational contact. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So the younger people are hanging out with their grandparents more than we do here in America. | ||
| Also, they smoke a lot. | ||
| I mean, those fucking people are all smokers over there. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's like the 90s over there. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| So do you guys not read? | ||
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No. | |
| They don't care. | ||
| You don't care about cancer? | ||
| You guys are out of your fucking mind. | ||
| And then it kind of goes through and, you know, ravages nursing homes here. | ||
| And it's crazy once it gets into nursing homes. | ||
| But so many of the people who work at nursing homes work at multiple nursing homes. | ||
| We should be making sure that they're not... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Spreading it. | ||
| I was reading this thing that they were criticizing Andrew Cuomo for making old people go back to nursing homes. | ||
| Oh, I know, because they tested positive and then they sent them back. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This article, I was like, how has no one brought this up in any of these discussions on the mistakes that have been made? | ||
| Yeah, when you ask me why I feel nihilistic, it's like our leaders have failed us. | ||
| I don't think they knew. | ||
| I don't think they understood. | ||
| And also, I think they were in a situation where they had a clear room in the hospitals because these new patients were coming in and they were running out of space. | ||
| You know, the New York City situation is a different situation. | ||
| They got it way worse than anybody else. | ||
| They've had more than, I think, last time I checked, it was like 25,000 deaths, whereas the entire state of California is only at like 1,800 or something. | ||
| Yeah, it's low here. | ||
| It's very low here. | ||
| I think a lot of it's because the governor acted quickly. | ||
| But I think you've got to let go of the reins, man. | ||
| I do think it's part of that. | ||
| I also think we don't use public transportation as much. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that we're not as on top of each other. | ||
| And we live, even though we might all interact, we're pretty isolated in L.A. Jack Harrow, I called it, the loneliest city in the world. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| It's definitely a city where everyone's still, even driving, we're all in our little pods alone. | ||
| Hunter S. Thompson had the best description of L.A. He said it's like a graveyard from the future. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Well, now it's an actual, we're in the graveyard. | ||
| Well, guess what, Hunter? | ||
| We've caught up to the future. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was right. | ||
| I think there's something to be said for... | ||
| Just how isolated we are already. | ||
| And just the actual physical distance. | ||
| You know, we have more land. | ||
| We're not all in apartments going up and down the same fucking elevator. | ||
| You know, there's just so much. | ||
| Some people are. | ||
| Some, but not as many as New York. | ||
| No, not as many as New York. | ||
| But still, I bet that's an issue where people do live in apartments. | ||
| I bet it's more of an issue touching the same elevator buttons and all that stuff. | ||
| It's very complicated. | ||
| You're making a lot of sense about New York, though. | ||
| But I think also the sun is a factor, too. | ||
| The fact that people are not getting any sun. | ||
| You know, no one's outside. | ||
| You're not getting any vitamin D. And if you're not supplementing, you're not getting that. | ||
| And I think that also they're getting a different strain of the virus because they're getting a strain that comes from Europe. | ||
| Yeah, we're getting the strain from China. | ||
| We got the OG. Yeah, we got the OG. The OG's milder. | ||
| Are they naming weed strains after this yet? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Some of us have a fucking COVID-19 killer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is there like a Wuhan? | ||
| If you went back in the 1970s and smoked some hippie weed like in San Francisco, you'd be like, bitch, what are you guys smoking? | ||
| You have to smoke a whole joint to get high off this garbage. | ||
| Right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that's how it is with the virus, too. | ||
| I think the Chinese version of the virus is not nearly as rugged as the virus that went all the way through Europe. | ||
| Because it morphed. | ||
| Yeah, but again, I'm a moron, so what the fuck are you listening to me for? | ||
| We're like, actually, suddenly... | ||
| I don't even understand what a gene is. | ||
| I know how to spell it. | ||
| And I could point you to some papers that I've read. | ||
| So how have you been handling it? | ||
| Initially, I was scared. | ||
| No bullshit. | ||
| We stocked up on food and I was worried about a bunch of things. | ||
| First of all, I was worried about the guns. | ||
| There's so many people that were buying guns. | ||
| I was like, whoa, this ain't good. | ||
| People that don't know how to use a gun, never shot a gun, they're all lining up to buy guns. | ||
| And then there was a lot of my friends who were super liberal who never wanted guns, who were asking me how to get guns, how do you shoot a gun, where do you go to practice. | ||
| That was hilarious, watching liberals learn about their gun laws. | ||
| I'm like, you guys voted for the, that my friends would be like, do you have to wait 10 days? | ||
| Like, yeah, no shit, idiot. | ||
| Like, what do you think you've been voting for here? | ||
| Well, that's a good thing, though. | ||
| We should, you know, that's a good thing. | ||
| The bad thing is you waited until a pandemic to get a gun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the bad thing. | ||
| But I'm also just shocked that people who are so anti-gun don't, if you're going to be anti-gun, know your laws. | ||
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What? | |
| I have a great story. | ||
| My friend, I will not name him, but he's always had guns when he was younger and he's married and they have a kid and his wife was like, no fucking guns. | ||
| You're never gonna have a gun in this house. | ||
| We're never gonna have a gun. | ||
| He's like, okay, fine. | ||
| Pandemic goes down. | ||
| Lockdown. | ||
| We need to get a gun. | ||
| Get a gun. | ||
| Go out and get a gun. | ||
| He's like, but what you said? | ||
| She's like, fuck what I said. | ||
| Get a fucking gun. | ||
| Like immediately, like yelling at him, we need a gun, we need a gun. | ||
| So he went out and bought two guns. | ||
| Yeah, it's not gonna take much before shit goes sideways in this town. | ||
| We have to be careful, all you fucking liberals here in California, because you will turn this state Republican. | ||
| You will do it with all this craziness. | ||
| You keep things locked down. | ||
| If Texas starts thriving, and all these other states start thriving, And they're doing well. | ||
| Utah's starting to open up. | ||
| All these states are opening up. | ||
| If they start thriving and the cases go down, we understand better treatment methods and people take better care of their bodies and use smart nutrition, California's gonna be fucked and someone's gonna come along and exploit that. | ||
| And say, this is what I would have done, and this is what I'll do now. | ||
| And they're like, fuck yeah! | ||
| Newport Beach will come out in droves. | ||
| Huntington Beach. | ||
| 100% voted. | ||
| 100% voted. | ||
| Even dead people voted in Huntington Beach. | ||
| They'll all vote Republican. | ||
| It wouldn't hurt for our state to go purple. | ||
| I would like to see some balance. | ||
| Some libertarian type shit. | ||
| Well, I just think there's no balance at all in California. | ||
| It's so one-sided. | ||
| There's no... | ||
| We need balance. | ||
| It's one-sided ideologically, meaning that... | ||
| But it's one-sided actually, too. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean it's one-sided... | ||
| Subscribing to an ideology. | ||
| I would disagree with that. | ||
| Liberal ideology. | ||
| I think there's a strong liberal ideology, yes. | ||
| I also think there is a strong libertarian bent that just isn't vocal. | ||
| No, that's true too. | ||
| Because they can't be. | ||
| But I mean, one-sided politically. | ||
| And Hollywood is one-sided ideology. | ||
| This area, if you're in the movie business or the television business, any place where you have to get hired, the difference between podcasts, stand-up, and then having to get hired is massive. | ||
| And you see these people that have been infected. | ||
| You see these stand-up comics that have been infected by their connection to Hollywood? | ||
| So they'll spout up some liberal horse shit, and then you... | ||
| You ask them, you question them on it. | ||
| They don't have a great rational response, but they know the virtuous thing to say, especially public when you're on a podcast publicly. | ||
| They know the thing they have to say to be ingratiated with all these people that are going to hire them for projects. | ||
| It's really fucked up because it's like a form of self-censorship by limiting your employment options. | ||
| Well, this is how I ended up in this space. | ||
| I got picked up by a manager for a script, and we were going to either try and sell a show or get into a writer's room. | ||
| And then on Twitter, I was like, why am I self-censoring? | ||
| And I was doing comedy a lot, and I kept feeling like I couldn't say... | ||
| I was self-censoring around my comedian peers. | ||
| And I was like, this is fucking weird. | ||
| Comedians are supposed to be like... | ||
| The people saying all the shit you can't say. | ||
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Yes, all the time. | |
| All the time. | ||
| And so I became aware of that. | ||
| I'm like, what would happen if I said the things I wasn't saying on Twitter? | ||
| And it was like... | ||
| A, it was people were like, thank you. | ||
| And B, I lost a lot of friends. | ||
| I lost people who, and people, because then there's that whole guilt by association. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then my life took on a whole other path, but I never heard from those managers again. | ||
| That guilt by association thing is real, where people think that you shouldn't talk to people that have different ideas or talk to people. | ||
| That have somehow or another embraced these different ideas. | ||
| It's very interesting to watch. | ||
| It's weird because I grew up... | ||
| So my dad is one of ten. | ||
| And we grew up... | ||
| One brother went off and became like a commie in Germany. | ||
| Whoa, a commie? | ||
| I mean, it was the 80s. | ||
| He was following... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He went off on a journey. | ||
| And I had enough... | ||
| Everybody... | ||
| There was a Republican uncle, and one of my uncles was gay, and it was a whole mishmash of... | ||
| And my grandparents were like, you do not fight about politics. | ||
| Everyone's allowed to have their opinion, but you don't lose family members That's why this whole thing of like, you need to go to Thanksgiving and confront your fox-watching parents. | ||
| Who said that? | ||
| There are always articles around Thanksgiving where you need to go home and confront your- Everyone who writes those articles is mentally ill. | ||
| They're all mentally ill, anxiety-ridden, with a rotting foundation. | ||
| If you really think that it's a good idea to confront your Fox News watching relatives and yell at them over Thanksgiving, you fucking idiot. | ||
| No, that's not what it's for. | ||
| You're not going to fix them and change them. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| What you're going to do is make an awful... | ||
| It's an awful holiday experience for the family. | ||
| You're going to ruin it! | ||
| And again, blood is thicker than water. | ||
| We were really raised to be tolerant. | ||
| Ideologically tolerant. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Well, that's one of the first things cults do. | ||
| They separate you from your parents. | ||
| The first thing. | ||
| If someone says, you need to get away from your parents. | ||
| You're like, oh, look, someone's starting a cult. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, that's how I feel on Dumpster Fire. | ||
| We're always like, our update on our cult, because we always say Meghan Markle took Harry and now he's in a cult. | ||
| Like her cult. | ||
| What is her cult? | ||
| I don't know, but she's separated from his family. | ||
| She moved him to another country. | ||
| There are a lot of red flags. | ||
| He has no friends. | ||
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He's completely isolated in L.A. Well, he's probably never got that kind of pussy before. | |
| He's Prince Harry! | ||
| Of course he is! | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Very reserved. | ||
| Gotta be careful. | ||
| No, he was the partier! | ||
| He was the partier! | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm sure. | ||
| You saw what happened to the one dude who flew over to Epstein Island? | ||
| That guy's fucked. | ||
| That was the older one, though. | ||
| What's that guy's name? | ||
| Andrew? | ||
| Andrew? | ||
| He's fucked. | ||
| He's fucked. | ||
| They got him out of the castle. | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| He's gotta get a job now. | ||
| They kicked him out! | ||
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He should be kicked out! | |
| He doesn't even get the money anymore. | ||
| What was he doing in that weird place? | ||
| He doesn't get any of that free royal money. | ||
| What was he doing? | ||
| He was fucking the girl that Epstein brought to him. | ||
| Yeah, I'm aware of what he was doing. | ||
| It's a horrific story. | ||
| No, that shit is as dark as it gets. | ||
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Horrific! | |
| It is as... | ||
| Tim Dillon and I always talk about this. | ||
| It is as dark as it gets. | ||
| As it gets ever. | ||
| And then the fact that they killed him and got away with it in front of everybody. | ||
| You're like, holy shit! | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| A lot's happened since I was here, alas. | ||
|
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A lot. | |
| A lot. | ||
| They fucking whacked him in front of everybody. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And then when you find out how many different large tech organizations and people and influential people that he was involved with, it's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It is straight out of something that you couldn't even believe. | ||
| I wonder if it's that so many of those guys want to do something freaky, but they can't. | ||
| They want to get... | ||
| And they can't? | ||
| So they just go to the fucking temple? | ||
| What were they doing in that temple? | ||
| Were they sacrificing virgins? | ||
| It's all mirrors in that temple and incense and shit. | ||
| It's so gross. | ||
| So speaking of cults, I was just thinking about this because I ended up on a cult, kind of, like accidentally. | ||
| I didn't have a place to stay. | ||
| No, I was talking to Sam Harris yesterday and we were talking about all of his time. | ||
| I didn't know that he spent like 10 years as like a wandering hippie. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In India. | ||
| And so I was like, you know, a lot of people don't get out. | ||
| And when I was traveling for two years around the world, I ended up on a lot of ashrams. | ||
| And one of them was an Osho ashram, which was that. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| So I came into my room. | ||
| I wrote a whole piece about it from Mel Magazine. | ||
| The energy is leaking out of your body. | ||
| It's so... | ||
| I walked into my... | ||
| Here, I walked in and my roommate, Samantha Shahi, who's amazing, was watching the documentary. | ||
| And there's this exercise where they dance and you go, who, who, who, who. | ||
| And it's a meditation that they made up. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, I've done that. | ||
| And they're naked. | ||
| And she's like... | ||
| How fucking course you've done this, Bridget? | ||
| And I sat down, I'm like, oh my god, this is... | ||
| It wasn't Osho, because he's obviously dead, but it was his lineage. | ||
| And it was wild. | ||
| I was there for like three weeks. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That documentary starts out great. | ||
| What was your new name? | ||
| Prem Sarita. | ||
| Prem Sarita is beautiful. | ||
| It means river of love. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he called me a scumbag. | ||
| Did he? | ||
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Why? | |
| Because they break you down in front of people. | ||
| And you know me. | ||
| I couldn't stop laughing. | ||
| And so he was like, you are a scumbag. | ||
|
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Wait a minute. | |
| Who is this guy? | ||
| The guru. | ||
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What does he look like? | |
| You gotta explain to me. | ||
| He looks like a guru. | ||
| Like how? | ||
| Like got a beard? | ||
| Like long hair. | ||
| He was tan. | ||
| He said that he was 80, but it came out that he was actually 60. So it's like, look how good I look! | ||
| And he's like, look at the shape I'm in from being here and eating, because they want you to stay. | ||
| And he was trying to, like, break me down psychologically, but I think my brain is, like, too dirty to be washed. | ||
| I just don't think... | ||
| I don't think that it is capable. | ||
| And so he was like, you are a scumbag out there. | ||
| You don't have work. | ||
| And I was like, actually, you're pretty right. | ||
| And he's like, say it. | ||
| Say you are a scumbag. | ||
| And I had to yell I'm a scumbag in front of this whole group of strangers. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| It was wild. | ||
| So this guy who was breaking it down, was he socially inept? | ||
| Was it an awkward breakdown? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Because you didn't buy into it. | ||
| You just sort of went around with it for fun? | ||
| I mean, I'm very curious. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I think the writer in me, and we talked about this last time, just when I was the third in the open marriage. | ||
| I remember vividly sitting just on their couch and being like, ah, should I do this? | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| But then I'm like, ah, It's such a great story. | ||
| This whole thing happened because I was with the Sydney Trust Fund baby and he needed somebody to drive up to Byron Bay with him. | ||
| And he's like, oh, it's no problem. | ||
| You'll find a place to stay. | ||
| And there was nowhere to stay. | ||
| And he was off on Boys Week in Byron Bay during Christmas. | ||
| Speaking of knowing nobody, I went to Australia on a one-way ticket and knew nobody. | ||
| And so I was like, I'm fucked. | ||
| One-way ticket. | ||
| God, that's such a crazy move. | ||
| How old were you? | ||
| 28. No, I was 33. I called it 33. Wow. | ||
| 33. Yeah, I just went. | ||
| I had been in L.A. kind of grinding, and I was like, if I don't travel now... | ||
| One-way ticket is a wild move. | ||
| I do it a lot. | ||
| Really? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Yeah, a lot. | ||
| I'm kind of known for that. | ||
| So you have to figure out how to get back. | ||
| But imagine if COVID broke out right when you landed in Australia. | ||
| I was stuck in India with $7. | ||
| I had to have somebody buy me a ticket out that time, an ex-boyfriend. | ||
| Thank you, Casey. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Shout out to Casey. | ||
| Shout out to Casey. | ||
| Well, that's nice that he did that. | ||
| Getting me out of India. | ||
| What did it do before, like in the old days? | ||
| India is basically like the old days when you travel there. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| If you needed a ticket in the 70s. | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| What the fuck would you do? | ||
| My dad traveled around the world when he was in his 20s. | ||
| And I was like, how did you do it? | ||
| You know, he's like, oh, you know, I wouldn't talk to my parents for they have no idea where you are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, you have to just do everything by paper. | ||
| You look for bus schedules when you get there. | ||
| You know, you go find a hotel when you arrive in the city. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| How about hitchhikers? | ||
| Like, hitchhikers are the craziest assholes ever. | ||
| Like, let's just randomly hope this person who's just gonna randomly pick me up isn't gonna kill me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you would read stories. | ||
| You'd read stories about this guy kidnapped this girl and cut her hands off. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| God, no. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| That's my biggest... | ||
| I'm so afraid of that. | ||
| That's always been... | ||
| In my most recent podcast, every once in a while, I do story hours where my cousin Maggie interviews me. | ||
| And I was telling all about my traveling, and she was asking me... | ||
| And it turns out I have four near-abduction stories that I completely forgot about. | ||
| But I have that fear, but it's also been reinforced by... | ||
| So when you join this cult and they break you down, they say, you're a scumbag! | ||
| What's his accent like? | ||
| It was a weird accent because he was from Italy originally. | ||
| How much of that cult was about banging? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| But I only had one cult boyfriend. | ||
| But he encouraged polyamory. | ||
| And I think my cult boyfriend saved me. | ||
| My cult boyfriend. | ||
| Why did he save you? | ||
| Well, because he had just come there to kind of recharge. | ||
| He was getting his degree in philosophy. | ||
| And he had occasionally come. | ||
| And he was a musician. | ||
| And then he left and went to Melbourne. | ||
| And then I went back into the city to drop him off. | ||
| And we weren't allowed to drink or anything. | ||
| And this is when I was still... | ||
| I was partying like a legend and I got three bottles of wine and I drank an entire bottle of wine in the park and then my friend came and took me back to the ashram and I was hammered and I was crying and making a scene and he was like, what are you drinking? | ||
| And he said, do you have enough for the rest of everyone? | ||
| So then he let everyone drink. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| What? | ||
| Then it became like a, it was a weird thing. | ||
| You guys started partying. | ||
| But then I left. | ||
| I was texting my, I call him Sidney, trust my boy. | ||
| I was like, get me the fuck out of here. | ||
| I want a steak. | ||
| It was during the playoffs and I think the Patriots were in. | ||
| And so I was breaking into bars up and down like Byron Bay to try and see the playoffs. | ||
| It was wild. | ||
| What did they eat? | ||
| Oh, so we had to wake up at five and we didn't have, we had a, it was a wood grill. | ||
| We had a grill, but we put wood in it. | ||
| And that was how we cooked everything. | ||
| Cooked everything over wood. | ||
| So we had to get a fucking fire started. | ||
| It was all vegan. | ||
| With some, like if we got a, cheese was like a treat. | ||
| And, um... | ||
| We would have to get the fire going to even make coffee or porridge or anything. | ||
| And then we'd make lunch right after breakfast was done. | ||
| And then there was no dinner. | ||
| It was just whatever was left over from lunch. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So I didn't eat very well. | ||
| And we had to do four hours of work. | ||
| To stay on the ashram, like hard manual labor. | ||
| Four hours a day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just for your room and board. | ||
| In the bush. | ||
| In the Australian bush. | ||
| Like what kind of stuff? | ||
| Well, there was this Malaysian way of raking that was really interesting where we would mow, but then you'd rake it all into a line and you'd have to put it in a tarp and take it all away out of these fields. | ||
| And it was like a really interesting way of taking away all the scraps. | ||
| We had cold showers. | ||
| There were all kinds of bugs and shit trying to kill me all the time. | ||
| It was wild. | ||
| It was a wild experience. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| There was so much drama because everybody was swapping partners. | ||
| Like so much drama. | ||
| It was supposed to be this place where you go and meditate and get in touch and it was like as the teepee turned. | ||
| It was just like nonstop. | ||
| Non-stop drama with like all that and he encouraged it and loved it and that's what's weird about these places is they use that to manipulate you into staying. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Have you ever talked to Adam Egott about his cult experience? | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, you know Adam from the Comedy Store? | ||
| He's the creative director of the Comedy Store? | ||
| He's coming on the podcast soon. | ||
| Oh, I love Adam. | ||
| I love Adam too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's got a crazy cult background. | ||
| No way! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My friend Todd, who's a great guy, like not a cult member at all, super normal guy, he watched the first episode of Wild Wild Country and he was like, this looks great. | ||
| It's like they're having so much fun. | ||
| I go, I know, I know, but stay with it. | ||
| Stay with it. | ||
| Because in the beginning, you're like, oh, yeah, like regular life is bullshit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like our society is bullshit. | ||
| Wouldn't it be great if we just all loved each other and we all embraced our fears and understood our position in the universe and were kind to each other and let go. | ||
| Let go of all this fear and all this bullshit. | ||
| And what better way to do it than to get a bunch of like-minded people and move to a spot in Oregon? | ||
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| Well, that was that in the piece I wrote about it. | ||
| I said I had a lot of conflicting feelings because it's amazing how quickly my bio rhythms adjusted to waking up at five or six, you know, living just the lack of waste. | ||
| We had the compostable toilets so that poor the poo became manure, you know, like manure. | ||
| This was the same on the weed farms, too. | ||
| And it's nice to just not feel like you're creating all that waste because I know that every time I get a package from Amazon, I'm like, ugh, this is not sustainable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's all waste. | ||
| It could be sustainable with hemp paper. | ||
| That's what's really crazy. | ||
| I mean, all this stuff could be fixed, all this chopping down of trees. | ||
| You could make some crazy number of, like, if you take 100 acres of hemp, how much more paper you could get out of 100 acres of hemp than 100 acres of trees, because you could regrow it every year. | ||
| Whereas if you're regrowing trees, you're not making paper out of those trees for years. | ||
| No. | ||
| For years. | ||
| They're going to grow and then you've got to kill them in their prime. | ||
| Hemp is like the buffalo of plants. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| You can use every part of it. | ||
| My friend Todd McCormick said, it's alien. | ||
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| And he's like a real marijuana wizard. | ||
| He really understands the history of it. | ||
| But if you look at the compounds of it, he goes, there's nothing like it on this planet. | ||
| And then if you pick up the stalk of Do you remember Jack Herrer? | ||
| Jack Herrer was a guy who wrote The Emperor Wears No Clothes. | ||
| It was a book about his transition from being a Goldwater Republican to being a pot evangelist. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And I was very fortunate to meet him and know him. | ||
| But he had this fucking, it was either Todd or him, had this stalk of hemp. | ||
| And it feels like balsa wood. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| But it's hard. | ||
| Like this oak, but it's the strangest plant. | ||
| Yeah, it is weird. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| You're like, there's nothing like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything that's hard, like if you have a piece of mahogany, like it's heavy, but it's hard as fuck. | ||
| Like oak is heavy, but it's hard as fuck. | ||
| Hemp is hard as fuck and it's light. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| It makes the best paper. | ||
| Have you ever fucked with hemp paper? | ||
| You can't even rip it. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| Because it has so much... | ||
| The fibers are so strong. | ||
| It's just a different kind of thing. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| Well, we used to have to break all the stocks at the end when we'd tear the whole garden down at the end of the season. | ||
| And it was fun, but it was a lot of work. | ||
| And those plants, definitely, I loved working on the farms because they just, as far as, not to sound all hippie, but it radiates love. | ||
| There's something in them, right? | ||
| Those gardens just radiate love. | ||
| And I would love going in the morning when there was dew on the plants and there'd be sun coming up and it was just so, you could feel so much. | ||
| There's something special about them for sure. | ||
| There's something going on you feel when you're next to them. | ||
| Especially if you go to a grow-up and there's like a bunch of them in the room. | ||
| There's a tangible difference you feel when you're in the room. | ||
| Almost like you're around these little angels. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Like you get love from like, are you guys real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It feels so nice. | ||
| Yeah, it's good. | ||
| It's a shame sometimes the culture around it gets a little aggro, especially up in Humboldt. | ||
| I heard Humboldt's really weird because it's built on crime, essentially. | ||
| It was an illegal business. | ||
| There's a kind of aggressive weed bro type. | ||
| Don't you think that's because of the fact it was a crime? | ||
| So you get like people toting guns. | ||
| Yeah, and like their RVs and their Humboldts. | ||
| I mean, it's gorgeous up there, but it's definitely... | ||
| Compared to some of the more family-operated places that I was on, there was a whole different vibe in Humboldt. | ||
| And in that area, it was like, whoa. | ||
| Like the guns and the guards and the dogs and the... | ||
| Well, these people have been illegally operating out there forever. | ||
| But same with a lot of the other people that were kind of... | ||
| I mean, it was... | ||
| The people I was working for, they were like third generation. | ||
| So they were like, oh gee. | ||
| And it was still very loving and family oriented and the whole vibe was very gentle. | ||
| It wasn't as aggressive. | ||
| Did you ever watch the documentary The Union? | ||
| No. | ||
| The Union is by my friend Scott Scorgy. | ||
| And Adam Scorgy, sorry. | ||
| Adam Scorgy has this, I haven't seen him since like 2010 or something. | ||
| He had this documentary that he did about Vancouver and about how Vancouver had this Underlying economy that was all weed-based. | ||
| It's like the thing that was keeping, like, you look at the economy. | ||
| If you look at the economy, like, where's all the money coming from? | ||
| Oh, well, there's industry, we manufacture cars, we do this, we do that. | ||
| There was this whole section that was just weed. | ||
| Weed and weed money. | ||
| And it wasn't legal. | ||
| He also did the documentary The Culture High, which is another great movie on marijuana. | ||
| But The Union is all about this one particular area where you see how intertwined pot growing is and how it's kind of accepted but still kind of illegal. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That was the weird thing about it in the kind of 2000... | ||
| You know, 2006, when it was shifting, it was just that vibe of, like, it had been illegal, and then it was in this weird gray area. | ||
| And it was still illegal, even when I was working there. | ||
| But everyone was like, is that illegal? | ||
| I'm like, eh, it's kind of a gray area. | ||
| Yeah, it's legal to grow a certain amount medicinally. | ||
| And then by the time it became legal... | ||
| Here's a real problem. | ||
| The real problem... | ||
| Have you ever heard of what's going on with the cartels? | ||
| Cartels growing weed and public land out here? | ||
| Oh yeah, I've heard about this. | ||
| Like in the forests and stuff. | ||
| There's a guy named John Norris. | ||
| He's been on the podcast before. | ||
| He was a game warden that when he signed up to be a game warden, it's because he's a guy who enjoys the outdoors. | ||
| Thought it'd be great. | ||
| You know, just going around, making sure everybody's following the regulations, check your fishing license, that kind of stuff. | ||
| That's what he thought it was going to be. | ||
| It turned out he had to run a fucking... | ||
| Tactical unit to stop the cartels from these grow-ups and gunfights and they're using dogs, the sick dogs, where they sick them on fucking cartel members. | ||
| It's crazy and it shows how it all starts for him, that they found this one diverted stream and it was a very important stream for Steelhead. | ||
| And see, these fish were kind of fucked because the water had somehow or another been diverted and dried up. | ||
| So they thought, well, let's just follow the stream, get to the source of it, and it's probably some sort of an issue that we can solve. | ||
| Well, they get to the source of it, and it turns out there's a giant Mexican cartel illegal grow-up. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| And they've diverted all this water, and then on top of that, they're using super toxic pesticides. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, they don't use the... | ||
| And poison to keep the animals from eating the leaves. | ||
| And then you get this poison that's in the fucking plant when you're selling it. | ||
| And he's like, 90% of the places where marijuana is illegal, and they're getting it from the cartels. | ||
| So they're getting this toxic, spewed-on weed, and they're distributing it, and they're growing it in California in all the state parks. | ||
| They're growing it in the National Forest. | ||
| They're growing it in this public land. | ||
| They go out into the mountains. | ||
| I have a friend who found a camp like this at Tahome Ranch. | ||
| I would run. | ||
| They didn't know what to do. | ||
| These are ranchers. | ||
| They stumbled upon all this piping and all this stuff and they're like, what in the fuck is this? | ||
| And then they found all these marijuana plants and they called the sheriff's office or whatever and they came down and torched it. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I wonder how the illegal market's doing now that it's legal. | ||
| They're still doing well because it's not legal everywhere. | ||
| That's the point of his book. | ||
| And there's so much regulation. | ||
| Well, it should be legal everywhere because all you're doing is propping up the Mexican cartels. | ||
| Do you see the shit that was happening in Sinaloa yesterday? | ||
| No. | ||
| There are gunfights in the streets. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| The cartels are having gunfights. | ||
| Go to Ed's manifesto, his Instagram page. | ||
| He's got this video where these people are hiding behind a wall and you're just watching machine guns in the streets. | ||
| And this is all because of the cartels. | ||
| And the cartels are pumped up because of what? | ||
| Illegal drugs. | ||
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It's all. | |
| That's their source of revenue. | ||
| Big marijuana is... | ||
| You always laugh when I say that. | ||
| But there is big weed, and it's taking out a lot of the independent mom-and-pop growers. | ||
| It's like the Amazon of weed. | ||
| Yeah, well, I'm sure that's going to happen with everything that's worth money, right? | ||
| Yeah, but I have, I don't know, I have mixed feelings about that too, because in places where there's this beautiful soil, they're paving over the soil and putting up like huge domes where there's no ambient light, and now you have light pollution in places because they're growing everything indoor, because you can control it, obviously, so... | ||
| And you can keep the lights on all... | ||
| Yeah, it's like a fucking UFO just landed. | ||
| Yeah, all day, all night. | ||
| In these beautiful woods with some of the best soil in America. | ||
| And I definitely, the hippie in me is like, no. | ||
| We're going too far. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But in their defense, that's how you make weed grow quicker. | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| You're doing it right. | ||
| I'm probably smoking some of that weed right now. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| But you're also destroying an economy of local mom-and-pop growers. | ||
| Ah, sloppy hippies. | ||
| You should have planned for the future. | ||
| You should have wrapped up your business years ago and hired guns. | ||
| Armed guns! | ||
| So, have you been baking bread? | ||
| No, Tom Papa has though. | ||
| I know, I got hooked. | ||
| I ate, with my family, we all ate the whole loaf in like two days. | ||
| I was gonna bring you some, but I saw that I thought you were like gluten-free or some shit. | ||
| I'm mostly gluten-free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But when I can get some sourdough bread, I will eat the fuck out of it. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| That's good enough. | ||
| It doesn't seem to bother me. | ||
| There's something about sourdough, I don't know if you know this, but also that there's less gluten in it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like way less. | ||
| I didn't know this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See if you can pull up why that is. | ||
| Why is there less gluten in sourdough? | ||
| It's been explained. | ||
| Do you know what it is? | ||
| Do you know the answer? | ||
| I wasn't a guess. | ||
| It's because he's using the heirloom flour and he's only got three ingredients in there. | ||
| There's just less stuff in it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, maybe because of the heirloom flour. | ||
| But I also think there's a reason because of sourdough. | ||
| There's something about the process of sourdough. | ||
| Was Tom already baking? | ||
| He's been baking for years, for sure. | ||
| I was sick the first couple weeks of the lockdown. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Were you worried? | ||
| I was worried. | ||
| And I thought I had it until your little, not sure how accurate, but it's... | ||
| What kind of cold symptoms did you have? | ||
| I was sick. | ||
| I had a fever and it would spike at night. | ||
| And I did have like some chest shortness of breath and a cough that came, but I kicked it. | ||
| But it was like, it was hanging on. | ||
| So in that time I couldn't work out and I was going crazy. | ||
| And it's gotta be some kind of DNA thing. | ||
| What is the bread thing? | ||
| It's just delicious. | ||
| No, but why? | ||
| You can't get flour anywhere. | ||
| But what do you mean it's some kind of DNA thing? | ||
| What is it that everyone went on lockdown and it activated, we must bake bread? | ||
| I've never experienced that. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| There's a run on flour. | ||
| To you and Tom Papa, and you think it's the whole... | ||
| Oh, there's a run on flour. | ||
| No, you can't get flour. | ||
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There's flour shortages. | |
| Well, that's because it's a staple. | ||
| There was a rice shortage. | ||
| I think it's like a DNA thing. | ||
| Well, toilet paper, is that DNA thing too? | ||
| Because that was the big... | ||
| No, but that just might be heard, you know, like sheepleness. | ||
| Well, Tom Green had a great analogy, a great theory on that. | ||
| He said, if you look at how big, how much space toilet paper takes up on the shelf... | ||
| He goes, it's a lot of space for like one roll of toilet paper or one package of toilet paper. | ||
| And so they only can keep so much. | ||
| I was like, oh, that makes sense. | ||
| And then when people see it empty, then they panic. | ||
| When they see toilet paper, they buy it and hoard it. | ||
| I was like, ah, yeah. | ||
| Because they've started limiting it now. | ||
| But yeah, I think my friend was just on the podcast. | ||
| He works at Nautical Theme Grocery Store. | ||
| And he was saying that he thinks that it's just like... | ||
| I was asking him about the psychology behind this, and he was saying he thinks that one person would take three, and then the person standing next to them sees that and is like, oh shit, I need to take three. | ||
| And then that person sees there's empty toilet paper shelves and people are stocking up, and then it just becomes this spiraling. | ||
| And then you start seeing it online, and it became like a spiraling freakout, basically. | ||
| There was a lot of logic. | ||
| There was a lot of freaking out. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| I freaked out in the beginning. | ||
| I was a little worried in the beginning because I was worried that it was going to be as bad as they were saying. | ||
| And then as the numbers came in, especially the numbers of people that weren't experiencing any symptoms and the numbers of people that went through it and didn't even know they had ever had it and they tested positive because someone in their family had had it and they had the antibodies and it's like, wow, what is this fucking thing? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's like you're talking about a multitude of different diseases. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's very different. | ||
| Have you been going crazy not being able to do stand-up? | ||
| Where's all that energy going? | ||
| I've been worried about you. | ||
| I just accept things. | ||
| I'm good at accepting things. | ||
| I've learned how to do that in my life. | ||
| This is just how it is. | ||
| Are you enjoying, are you spending more time with the kids? | ||
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Yes. | |
| I'm enjoying that. | ||
| I'm enjoying that. | ||
| It's weird for them though because they have to do school online and it kind of sucks. | ||
| They're just not good at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not, it doesn't feel, like I sat in to watch one of them like this is so uninspiring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I was a kid, first of all, I was a fuck up in school. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So if they ever did this to me while I was in high school. | ||
| I would have just quit school. | ||
| I would 100% quit school at 16 if this was what was going on. | ||
| I'd be like, well, the world's ending. | ||
| Why the fuck am I going to sit in front of a computer all day and listen to this? | ||
| Lopey dork. | ||
| Tell me what to do. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I've been, you know... | ||
| Weirded out, but also enjoying the time together. | ||
| But then also very fortunate that I have this place. | ||
| I can come here. | ||
| I work out here. | ||
| I can do a lot of stuff here. | ||
| I get to do podcasts still. | ||
| So I get to hang out with people like you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Get to hang out with my friends. | ||
| Have a good time. | ||
| But for sure, I miss stand-up. | ||
| And I just don't like the idea that these bureaucrats get to tell us what to do and what not to do. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| What's that going to look like? | ||
| What are they planning on doing when they open up? | ||
| Is it going to be limited seating? | ||
| I mean, how are you going to go on your tours? | ||
| I'm at the Forum November 1st. | ||
| It's almost sold out. | ||
| It's just going to be like me and a mannequin on either side of me. | ||
| I'm like, what am I going to do? | ||
| That's a real show that I have in LA. That's the biggest show that I have in LA, right? | ||
| It's like 9,000 people. | ||
| Is that possible? | ||
| I don't even know yet. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think you should let people make a choice for themselves. | ||
| Make them get tested. | ||
| And there should be a place, like, you know how you sign up to vote? | ||
| You should be able to sign up to get tested. | ||
| I don't want something that tracks you where you carry it on your phone. | ||
| No, no, I don't like that. | ||
| But I want it like a ticket. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know how you have, like, if you get an electronic ticket, you get that ticket, and you can bring it, and they scan your ticket, and then you can get on board a plane, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why don't they do that with testing? | ||
| They can do that with testing. | ||
| And so if you want to go somewhere, like you want to go to a concert... | ||
| Scan it. | ||
| Is it valid? | ||
| It's two days ago. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And have you left your house? | ||
| Have you been doing heroin in two days? | ||
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No, but at least it would help. | |
| The number one thing that we need to concentrate on is the number one thing that you don't hear a goddamn peep about, and that's nutrition and health. | ||
| Those are the things. | ||
| Stress. | ||
| Managing your stress. | ||
| This is how to meditate. | ||
| You fucks, take some of those taxpayer money and set up... | ||
| Take some of that tax money and set up some sort of an online resource that can show people how they can improve their immune system. | ||
| Have little meditation courses, you fucks. | ||
| Do you think that people are... | ||
| Becoming more succumbing to bad habits or improving themselves? | ||
| I would think it's both. | ||
| I mean, you can't generalize because people handle things. | ||
| Some people have been amazing through this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And some people I've become bigger fans of because of the way they've handled this. | ||
| And then there's some people that I can't talk to. | ||
| I'm like, you fucking pussy. | ||
| You're falling apart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I know people that are scared to go outside. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, they don't want to do anything. | ||
| I hear it's worse than they say. | ||
| I hear it's worse than they're telling us. | ||
| Where are they getting that information? | ||
| It's more attractive to them than the opposite. | ||
| But can they afford for it to be attractive? | ||
| Some of them, yes. | ||
| I'm talking about some of them are wealthy people. | ||
| Because I know people who have both fears. | ||
| They might be not healthy, but they're also poor. | ||
| And they're more afraid of being poor. | ||
| They're trying to balance these things like, I need to still go to work because I can't. | ||
| They're balancing the risk. | ||
| Here's a fake narrative that it's either money or lives. | ||
| That's a fake narrative. | ||
| And this is why it's a fake narrative. | ||
| If the economy collapses, the deeper it collapses, the more lives it's going to cost. | ||
| And that's a fact. | ||
| This is a real statistic. | ||
| You can actually measure this. | ||
| The way the economy goes, you will, correspondingly, you will see a loss of life. | ||
| If the economy goes down, if there's more depression, if there's more drug addiction, if there's more suicide, you will see a loss of life that's directly attributable to the way people respond to the economy collapsing. | ||
| Is that... | ||
| Factual? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Bloomberg had a report on it. | ||
| There's an equation. | ||
| In how the economy dips, you'll see a corresponding loss of life due to suicide, corresponding loss of life due to drug addiction and overdose. | ||
| Look, depression is for sure, it takes in a lot of factors. | ||
| Some people have it just genetically, some people have it because of the circumstance. | ||
| As your circumstance erodes, it's much more likely that you're going to be depressed. | ||
| Oh, I agree. | ||
| I remember reading an article that kind of pushed back on this. | ||
| There were all these statistics and studies done after the Great Depression, and actually it weirdly kicked in people's resilience. | ||
| Okay, but listen to what you said. | ||
| After the Great Depression, right? | ||
| So everything falls apart, and it kicks in people's resilience, and the people that survive are the ones that you're going to hear great things about. | ||
| Yeah, I would have to look at the actual studies, because I'm not sure when it started counting the lives that were lost. | ||
| My grandparents went through the depression and I used to talk to them about it. | ||
| And when my grandmother died, one of the things, they found little coffee cans filled with money all over the house. | ||
| Dollars and change and store them in all different places. | ||
| They were terrified. | ||
| They were terrified of things going south. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I've been poor for so long in terms of being freelance writer and always, I do a weird thing where I don't invoice and all of my editors are like, we owe you money. | ||
| But it's that psychological like, oh, I have money. | ||
| There. | ||
| And I store it all over my house. | ||
| I have money everywhere, just like loose change and dollars because I have that scarcity fear always. | ||
| I take things way farther. | ||
| My fear is that money won't be worth anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's my fear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, when someone says, oh, you should be fine, you have money. | ||
| So you have gold bricks at home? | ||
| No, I have guns. | ||
| And I know how to hunt. | ||
| That's what I'm worried about. | ||
| Legitimately worried about not having food. | ||
| I have water purification tablets. | ||
| I have pumps. | ||
| I can pump creek water and get it to the point where my kids can drink it. | ||
| That's what I'm worried about. | ||
| Legitimately. | ||
| That's a real fear that people should have. | ||
| I have that fear. | ||
| Many people are starting to understand. | ||
| It's people like you and me and everybody else are responsible for the food chain. | ||
| This food supply chain. | ||
| This food supply is not permanent. | ||
| It's not just going to stay there. | ||
| And all these ranchers that have been struggling to pay their bills. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Struggling. | ||
| Now they're fucked. | ||
| We treat our farmers like such shit. | ||
| I feel like it's... | ||
| Well, we're not aware because we're not near them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| I think that even my friend who I interviewed, he was saying people are thanking him for his service and he hates it at the nautical grocery store. | ||
| But I think that it's people who have never even had to consider the food supply chain are considering it. | ||
| And they're suddenly like, oh my God, thank you. | ||
| Remember how they were really pumped about firemen? | ||
| Yeah, after 9-11. | ||
| People who generally don't get, who provide a service and just kind of go fly under the radar. | ||
| But yeah, I don't think people consider much where their food comes from or how it even gets on the shelves. | ||
| They're definitely doing it more so now. | ||
| And there's also a lot of people are inquiring about hunting. | ||
| They're looking into it. | ||
| There's an uptick in searches. | ||
| And I get a lot of questions about gardening, hunting, and prepping. | ||
| I used to think those people were out of their fucking minds. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because I used to consider, like, oh, well, if there's a natural disaster, like if Yellowstone blows, you really want to be right next to it. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| Yeah, we're close. | ||
| You don't want to be surviving nuclear winter when everything becomes fucking horrible gray sky wasteland and everyone's freezing and choking. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| And that's what's happened to human beings before. | ||
| There was a point in time where we've done this so many times, whatever the volcano was. | ||
| There was a supervolcano that blew somewhere around 60, 70,000 years ago. | ||
| I forget where it was. | ||
| Was it Indonesia? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it killed most of the people on the planet. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Most of the people. | ||
| We got down to a few thousand people. | ||
| That was like 70,000 years ago. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's really nuts. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| This has happened many times. | ||
| These things happen. | ||
| They just don't happen enough where they happen during our lifetime where we say, oh, that's a thing we have to worry about. | ||
| So now we've experienced a real global pandemic during our lifetime. | ||
| So now we're like, now this is something we know we have to worry about. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit light. | ||
| Like, it's pandemic light. | ||
| It's certainly not like the 1918... | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| But look how we're reacting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're reacting like it is. | ||
| Which I think was precautionary. | ||
| But it's still going on. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Now they're asking people to rat people out if you're fucking opening up your business. | ||
| This is Gestapo shit. | ||
| Yeah, it's what's always worried is, are we the frog in the boiling water? | ||
| Where at a certain point you say, hey, everybody self-lockdown and don't work. | ||
| And everyone's like, eh. | ||
| I'm not stoked about it, but okay, I'll do that for my fellow man. | ||
| And then a couple of months go by and the numbers come in and you're not seeing the outbreak in Florida from the spring breakers. | ||
| You're not seeing the... | ||
| Well, they've been open now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was just there. | ||
| I flew to Florida last week for the UFC. Yeah. | ||
| Saturday night, I flew in. | ||
| I went to a restaurant, Pritchett. | ||
| Sat down and had a steak. | ||
| Had a glass of wine, my friend Eddie Bravo. | ||
| We sat down and ate together like gentlemen. | ||
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What was that? | |
| Doesn't it look weird when you see it in... | ||
| It was strange at the restaurant because it was like us and then this other older couple walked in. | ||
| There was maybe one other couple towards the front and a couple young people at the bar. | ||
| Fairly sparse. | ||
| All the waiters had face masks on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But we ate. | |
| We ate dinner. | ||
| But now the conspiracy theorist in me is like, now they're going to see how far they can fucking push it. | ||
| Well, I don't think that's a conspiracy theory. | ||
| I think that is just like your cult friend that was calling you a scumbag and trying to break you down. | ||
| When you're in a position of power, there's an archetype of a person in a position of power and then all the potential things that can go wrong when a person's in a position of power. | ||
| All the abuses of that power. | ||
| I mean, they're documented, right, throughout history. | ||
| But this is one of them. | ||
| Control. | ||
| I'm telling you what to do. | ||
| You want more rights? | ||
| You want to get your rights back? | ||
| Well, daddy says you gotta put your mask on. | ||
| Even though it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| So we're all grounded. | ||
| It's like we're all grounded. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| It's not like things are getting worse. | ||
| But their grip is getting tighter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, that's what is deeply... | ||
| Rights are generally not given back once they're taken. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| And that's what the problem is. | ||
| And this is what the problem when people want to talk about Marxism and all the positive benefits of socialism. | ||
| It'd be great if everybody helped all the people that weren't doing so well and chipped on in. | ||
| It would be great. | ||
| But the problem with the big state, the big government, is what you're seeing now. | ||
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Regular people making shit decisions. | |
| Regular people, like Gavin Newsom, is a person. | ||
| He's not a genius. | ||
| He's not a wizard. | ||
| He's not from another planet. | ||
| He's a human being who grew up in the United States of America, and he has this incredible amount of power, over 40 million people in the state. | ||
| And he's deciding, we're going to go step one, and you're going to allow it to be, go outside and look at the sunset. | ||
| You can do yoga. | ||
| Don't go near anybody. | ||
| You can golf, no cart. | ||
| And he's got masks. | ||
| Yeah, and they put this fucking list of shit that you can do and you can't do. | ||
| And then they get to tell people. | ||
| They get to tell people, not yet! | ||
| Not yet! | ||
| We're going to open up a little bit on May 15th. | ||
| Okay, a little bit, a little bit. | ||
| What can we do? | ||
| You can go to the beach now, but don't sit down. | ||
| Yeah, you can't freaking sit down. | ||
| You can't tell people what to do like that. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| This is what you tell people. | ||
| Please be cautious. | ||
| Please use social distancing. | ||
| Let's be smart. | ||
| Let's take care of our vulnerable people and let's take care of our health. | ||
| Let's take care of our bodies to eat correct. | ||
| This is a good opportunity for you to cut all the bullshit out of your diet. | ||
| Stop eating so much sugar. | ||
| Stop drinking so much. | ||
| Stop smoking cigarettes. | ||
| This is a good time to work on your health. | ||
| Because what you're seeing across the board is vulnerable people that are getting really sick from this. | ||
| Whether they're vulnerable because they have underlying health conditions, or they were stressed out, or they're hospital workers, they're vulnerable because they're getting this massive viral load from all these people. | ||
| Viral load sounds so dirty. | ||
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It's a great word. | |
| It's a great word. | ||
| No, it just sounds so dirty. | ||
| Every time I hear it, I'm like... | ||
| Well, you find out that it's coming, you get it in sperm. | ||
| Like, COVID is in sperm, so that's a real viral load. | ||
| That is viral, though. | ||
| Every time I hear it, I'm like, that's the dirtiest term, but I love it. | ||
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Have you seen the prisoners giving each other COVID? Oh, I saw that video. | |
| Am I crazy? | ||
| I never know what's real, though. | ||
| I always have to, like, fact check and go find and see if the video is real and go, which everyone should be doing, by the way. | ||
| Most people aren't. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| I fuck up all the time. | ||
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I'll see it and I'm like, yeah! | |
| And then I'm like, easy, Bridget. | ||
| Settle that? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Let's look at this one carefully. | ||
| This one confirms a lot of your biases. | ||
| You might want to double check. | ||
| When you find out that prisoners are getting released that are even, like, sex offenders. | ||
| Like, violent sex offenders are getting released. | ||
| And they're putting, like, a hairdresser in jail. | ||
| But it's so crazy, like, oh, you might get a cough. | ||
| We're gonna have to let you go. | ||
| Don't rape any kids while you're out there, you little knucklehead. | ||
| You're supposed to be in jail. | ||
| You're supposed to be in jail for 30 years, but we're gonna let you out because we don't want you to get a cough. | ||
| Yeah, I don't, all of it, again, I come back to trying to stay optimistic in the face of conditions that feel like they're rapidly deteriorating. | ||
| Yeah, no it is. | ||
| But you don't even get high, that's the problem. | ||
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That's not a problem. | |
| You have to stay sober. | ||
| It's not for you, it is for me. | ||
| I picked the worst fucking decade to get sober. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| I mean, what an idiot. | ||
| I got sober in 2013, which means I got sober right before Trump, started running, and now through a fucking pandemic. | ||
| But honestly, I have been able to... | ||
| I'm actually grateful. | ||
| Do you know how much the alcohol consumption is up? | ||
| If any indication of how much bread I've been eating is how much weed and beer and alcohol I'd be consuming, I would be in the hospital with cirrhosis of the liver. | ||
| Yeah, you're just using that, the bread. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I mean, I like it because it's a challenge. | ||
| Because it's really fucking hard to make. | ||
| Bread is a challenge? | ||
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Making sourdough bread is a fucking challenge. | |
| Hey, look up how many people are... | ||
| Alcoholics. | ||
| How much alcohol consumption is up. | ||
| Where, though? | ||
| Just overall, United States alcohol consumption. | ||
| Down in restaurants and bars, though. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's the problem. | ||
| It's actually up, even though restaurants and bars... | ||
| Everyone's drinking alone. | ||
| Listen, just Google it, you fuck. | ||
| I know, but I'm trying... | ||
| I gotta figure out what to Google. | ||
| How about Google alcohol consumption up during pandemic? | ||
| Because someone was telling me this, and it can't be true. | ||
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I like it. | |
| At houses? | ||
| Within houses? | ||
| Or like from grocery stores? | ||
| Just overall alcohol consumption. | ||
| Just Google alcohol consumption up during pandemic. | ||
| Because what he was telling me is, he goes, listen to this. | ||
| Bars are closed, right? | ||
| Because alcohol consumption is way up. | ||
| He goes, think about that. | ||
| Yeah, I believe it. | ||
| I don't know how he knows this, but he's a person that would know that. | ||
| Have you seen the Zoom happy hours? | ||
| Oh, the people get hammered on Zoom? | ||
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Those things... | |
| I would rather die than get hammered with a bunch of people on Zoom. | ||
| I'm like, drink alone like a fucking real man. | ||
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Don't do this happy hour... | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Drink alone like a fucking real man. | ||
| But seriously. | ||
| Is there anything, Jamie? | ||
| The first Forbes opinion article says there's a survey that was taken of 2,000 adults that said 16% were drinking more, 19% drinking less. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know where they're getting the number from. | ||
| It's a lot to... | ||
| His statistic was much higher than that. | ||
| It was like in the high 30s. | ||
| 30% increase in alcohol consumption during the pandemic. | ||
| Yeah, because everybody's day drinking. | ||
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| There was that meme that was going around that was hilarious, like, pray for the teachers next year who are going to have kids coming in who have been taught by their moms or their parents who have been day drinking. | ||
| I have been day drinking, but I've been drinking wine. | ||
| I drink wine every night. | ||
| I'll have a glass of wine. | ||
| You are a pretty moderate drinker anyway, though. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'll go off the rails a couple times a year, especially on Fight Companions, when we do these Fight Companion podcasts. | ||
| That's probably the hardest I drink ever. | ||
| We get hammered. | ||
| Here's the best statistic I found, but that doesn't mean much. | ||
| Off-premises alcohol sales? | ||
| Off-premises alcohol sales were up 55% in the third week of March this year. | ||
| Okay, well, that makes sense because people are drinking at home. | ||
| But I wonder if, like, overall. | ||
| It says, while most people in the United States remain stuck at home during the COVID-19 pandemic, many are increasing their alcohol purchases and likely their consumption. | ||
| No, they're just stockpiling it and using it for hand sanitizer. | ||
| According to the data reported by Nielsen, an international measurement of the data analytics company, so up 55%. | ||
| Off-premise alcohol sales were up 55%. | ||
| So I wonder what that means in terms of overall, like what percentage of alcohol sales were done in bars and restaurants, and what percentage was, I guess that's what off-premises means. | ||
| Yeah, you would have to really know what, that would be hard, yeah, you'd have to know how much alcohol was sold to the restaurants yeah and then all that's hard to find because it's usually through it's not like a retail you're getting it right 55 is a big number though yeah that's big but i think a lot of i i mean i i don't know if i if i was drinking i'd be drinking a lot i can tell you that all my this is what the reason i brought it up is the friends that i have were like you know they would maybe have a glass of | ||
| wine at night now they're going through a bottle or two every night that was my normal but yeah this is fill out yeah everybody's getting thick Yeah, I was, I definitely the first, you know, like I was saying, the first three weeks, I was kind of sick. | ||
| So I started baking bread because I needed a challenge because I couldn't work out. | ||
| And man, that like, the COVID-19 is real. | ||
| Now I have another, now I have another challenge. | ||
| The bread baking? | ||
| No, now I have to lose the COVID-19 that I gained. | ||
| Oh, the COVID-19 pounds. | ||
| Yeah, bread will put it on you. | ||
| Also, not doing anything and not moving. | ||
| There was three weeks where I was like, you took seven steps today. | ||
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It's so sick! | |
| Just staying at home. | ||
| Do you have exercise equipment at home? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Yeah, and so my sisters and I have been doing... | ||
| This has been fun. | ||
| We've been doing... | ||
| We call it Something is Better Than Nothing because all of us, the first couple weeks, were just off the rails with the, like, sweets and my other sister was baking and... | ||
| She's like, I need to dial it back. | ||
| So we started doing workout videos, but to hold each other accountable, we Zoom. | ||
| And so then we share the screen. | ||
| And it's so fun. | ||
| I mean, I wish I could record. | ||
| My sisters are hilarious. | ||
| Why is that okay, but it's not okay to drink on Zoom? | ||
| It's fine to drink on Zoom. | ||
| I just don't... | ||
| I can't imagine... | ||
| So here's my issue. | ||
| It's hard enough for me to work out because you can see yourself on Zoom. | ||
| So that's already... | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| I'm used to going to a gym and seeing myself in a mirror and working out in a class. | ||
| I'm not used to seeing myself drinking while I drink. | ||
| And so the idea of being on a Zoom with people and being able to see my little square head getting wasted... | ||
| But you're not supposed to look at you. | ||
| You're supposed to look at them. | ||
| No, I know, but you're still able to see yourself. | ||
| I'm just going to put a little... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do you know, like, amongst your friends, are people ramping up their alcohol consumption, the people that you know that drink? | ||
| Yes and no. | ||
| But I was on a family. | ||
| I'm on a family. | ||
| Like, it's funny. | ||
| In the beginning, everyone's like, we're going to have these, like, group texts. | ||
| We're going to keep each other sane. | ||
| And, like, after three weeks, it's just nobody here. | ||
| You never hear from anyone. | ||
| No one keeps it together after a month. | ||
| A month is like where everybody starts going off the rails. | ||
| Well, and it's funny because everybody just started, everyone adjusted and they were back in their own lives. | ||
| But it was mostly just us sharing memes of the guy with the big dick and all the funny memes that were going around. | ||
| But it was like family members, cousins, like I said, I have a huge family. | ||
| So cousins, we're all around the same age. | ||
| And it was like all of them sharing their booze supplies. | ||
| Because they were afraid that the stores were going to be shut indefinitely. | ||
| That's how a lot of my friends were talking about it, too. | ||
| They were worried that they wouldn't be able to get booze and they would have to go through the sober. | ||
| Yeah, and I think... | ||
| Do you find that, Jamie? | ||
| Your friends? | ||
| Are friends your age getting hammered? | ||
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No. | |
| No? | ||
| Same age? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I'm probably smoking a little more weed, but I don't know about that. | ||
| So, do you think it's like an older suburban thing? | ||
| Like... | ||
| No, they're always drinking. | ||
| Like, the wine moms are just still more... | ||
| They're just maybe more wine moms. | ||
| But I think they're going... | ||
| But I'm trying to think of as a generational thing. | ||
| Like, how are, like, kids in their 20s handling... | ||
| They're not getting drunk every day. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They're probably more pliable, too. | ||
| They have less to lose. | ||
| So while all this shit's going down, they're like, what am I going to do? | ||
| I was, so, my nephew, it was his first year of college, and now he's back at home. | ||
| And he's great. | ||
| He's, like, super active. | ||
| But if I was, like, a 20-year-old who wasn't in college and was back in my parents' basement, I was partying when I was, like, 17 at home. | ||
| I'd be really worried about the future, though. | ||
| Wouldn't you be worried about the future if you're 20 and you saw this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's funny because either my nephew's just like a badass or super resilient, but he's like, ah, it's fine. | ||
| He might be a moron. | ||
| He's not sure if he's going to go back to college because he doesn't want to pay for... | ||
| Yeah, well that's the kid with my kids' school too. | ||
| My kids go to private school. | ||
| Who the fuck is going to pay for all the money to have a lazy teacher socially distanced teach you? | ||
| No way. | ||
| He's like, I'm not taking on this debt. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| The death rate between kids is so fucking low. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's so low. | ||
| You're talking about all the way up into college. | ||
| The death rate is so small that it doesn't make any sense to keep them out of school. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| I think Alabama and all those colleges were talking about how they were going back. | ||
| What do they really teach down there, though? | ||
| It's football. | ||
| They've got to get the college football going. | ||
| Yeah, that is a thing, right? | ||
| What are they going to do with these stadiums that are going to be filled with people? | ||
| I don't think they're going to. | ||
| When are they going to allow that? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Do you know, Jim? | ||
| Fox, there's been speculation for the NFL that they're going to pump in, I think probably just for the people watching, but crowd noise and fans, like fake fans. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, you can't. | ||
| I'm talking about, but this is still four months ahead. | ||
| I'm going to go to a Joe Rogan show and it's going to be canned laughter pumped into the stadium. | ||
| Canned laughter. | ||
| And a few heckles. | ||
| Who's saying this? | ||
| Fox, I think. | ||
| That is so dumb. | ||
| That would be so offensive. | ||
| That's just preparing us for this new world. | ||
| What's the new world, Joe? | ||
| The new world. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| The social distancing. | ||
| We're all in the matrix. | ||
| There's no reality. | ||
| Are they just trying to get us to be in our house and order shit? | ||
| I was joking that this is a plot by Amazon and Netflix to just get us all inside. | ||
| I was joking this is a plot from AI to get us to the symbiotic relationship that's inevitable. | ||
| Where human beings are going to merge with some form of technology. | ||
| It's already happened with things you carry around like your phone or your glasses or something that someone's made that you can't live without that makes your life better. | ||
| It's eventually going to be a part of you. | ||
| It's going to get inside of you. | ||
| And once that gets inside of you, you're going to be more and more and more immersed in that world. | ||
| And some people are like, man, I don't want that. | ||
| I want to live in the real world. | ||
| I want to be able to go to the lake. | ||
| I want to be able to hug people and touch people. | ||
| Well, what better way to stop that shit from taking place? | ||
| You can't go anywhere. | ||
| You got to stay inside. | ||
| So all your world is virtual. | ||
| You can't come near anybody because they might kill you with their fucking spit. | ||
| Do you think that people will put up with that, though? | ||
| Some people are putting up with this, Bridget. | ||
| Is this how America breaks up? | ||
| Does it become the pro-open and pro-closed states, and then we just divorce? | ||
| Well, this is what's happening. | ||
| It's right-wing, left-wing. | ||
| Left-wing people want the government to take care of everything. | ||
| They want everybody to get checks, and they want everybody to stay home forever until there's a cure. | ||
| It's not going to be a cure. | ||
| This is something that's going to be around. | ||
| We might have herd immunity and might be able to wipe it out that way, but this is not something that they can just spray away or inject away. | ||
| So this is something, well, hopefully one day they'll have some sort of a real treatment, whether it's a vaccine or whatever it is. | ||
| We're probably going to have to take a vaccine every couple years or every year or something like that. | ||
| None of this is good. | ||
| I mean, you get the flu shot if you get it, and it's not going to keep you from getting the flu. | ||
| There's still other strains that are out there. | ||
| But it helps you even if you do get those strains that aren't the strain. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Then there's herd immunity, right? | ||
| Where more than 60% of the people get it, the virus sort of dies off. | ||
| That's a positive thing. | ||
| Possibility in the future. | ||
| But there's people that want to get back to work, and there's people that don't want anyone to go anywhere. | ||
| And it's become this sort of, again, this ideological battleground where the people that want to go back to work, you're putting dollars over money. | ||
| You know, like someone said, you're going to be the richest man in the cemetery to Elon Musk because he wants to open up his factory. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Like, are we gonna be just stay home forever? | ||
| Are we gonna be scared of everything? | ||
| Why would you drive when you know how many people die in driving accidents? | ||
| Stay home! | ||
| Don't do anything! | ||
| And I think this has put, you know, the... | ||
| We make these calculations all the time about how many people is it acceptable to die. | ||
| It's just not so in our face. | ||
| For instance, with opioids. | ||
| If you're using these to help people manage pain, but you know a certain amount of people might become addicted or die, there's all kinds of trade-offs that we're making. | ||
| Driving, another good example. | ||
| So we're constantly... | ||
| Making these cost-benefit analysis in our society, it's just not usually, you have to make it. | ||
| You have to be part of the person who's saying, am I going to be... | ||
| But it's also, there's so much false information or confusing information. | ||
| And I don't, again, I come back to what we started talking about. | ||
| I don't know that a lot of people know who to believe. | ||
| And if you just believe your tribe, it's much easier. | ||
| I think if I was just like gobbling up all the CNN or gobbling up all the Fox, I would be happy little frickin' no nihilism Bridgette. | ||
| Or you'd be angry wanting to overthrow the government, not wanting to, you know, get things back to the way things used to be. | ||
| Or I'd be terrified and not leaving my house because I was worried that I was going to get... | ||
| There's all those things. | ||
| But if you just look at the raw numbers, and this doesn't discount any of the deaths, doesn't discount the tragedy. | ||
| I know people are like, but my grandma, but my friend, I knew a guy, I knew a guy, he was young. | ||
| Everybody knows a guy. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But if you just look at the overall numbers, this is not what we thought it was going to be. | ||
| It's really simple. | ||
| And this is why you want to move. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't like that they're telling me that you have to stay home. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't like that they're telling me you have to wear a mask when you go outside. | ||
| No, if I'm around people and you want me to wear a mask in a business or something like that, okay. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| Until everything settles down, we figure this out? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But you can't tell me, I leave the house, I have to put a mask on. | ||
| What about if I walk around in my backyard? | ||
| Do I have to have a mask on? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| If I'm running on a trail, I have to run on a trail with a mask on? | ||
| The fuck out of here. | ||
| This is stupid. | ||
| And your ideal way to transition back, what would it look like? | ||
| Let people take risks. | ||
| Let people do what they want to do. | ||
| But educate them. | ||
| Educate them in terms of their immune system. | ||
| Educate them in terms of, like, here's where it could go bad. | ||
| This is why you need to wash your hands. | ||
| Like, one of the things I said is that women were getting it less than men. | ||
| And people were like, why? | ||
| I'm like, because we're gross. | ||
| We don't wash. | ||
| We're fucking disgusting. | ||
| So guys are picking their nose after they're touching a faucet and other people touched it. | ||
| Is that why they're getting it more? | ||
| It could be a bunch of factors, but I would guarantee that one of them is that men are gross. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Men are gross. | ||
| Yeah, I guarantee you that has to play some sort of a part in it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's been somebody, I think a writer, I forget her name, Megan, someone, she had a tweet. | ||
| She said, it's a blacklight No, it's a, yeah, it's a blacklight on, like, the sperm-filled hotel room, basically, the pandemic. | ||
| It's just revealed, like, all of these institutional failures and all of the structural failures and all of the ideological battleground is up to 11 now. | ||
| And I find that... | ||
| Most people are wrestling and don't know really what to do, but I think most people are grown up enough to want to be able to take that risk for themselves. | ||
| I walk around, I see all these businesses, I'm like, how are these businesses going to come back? | ||
| They're not going to. | ||
| We're going to lose like 40% of them. | ||
| Look, I think you've got to let people make their own decisions. | ||
| And the decision you've already made has already cost something. | ||
| It's cost businesses. | ||
| It's cost a lot. | ||
| It's cost a lot of people's livelihoods. | ||
| So it's not like there's no loss here. | ||
| There's a loss here. | ||
| And if you don't think there's a loss of life, talk to people that are dealing with suicide. | ||
| I know a guy who talked to this sheriff, and he was saying that they used to have... | ||
| Everyone knows a guy. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Everyone does. | ||
| They were saying that he used to deal with one suicide a week, now he's dealing with five a day. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| That seems like it should be a bigger story. | ||
| It is a big story, but it's just not being talked about because the narrative is always stay or safer, stay at home, this and that. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| There's a real loss. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That comes with your business going away. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| It's not just loss of life. | ||
| It's loss of business, loss of livelihood, and that could lead to loss of life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's going to last for years! | ||
| It was creepy. | ||
| I was texting you the pictures of the phosphorescence. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And what are you going to tell people they can't go look at nature? | ||
| And so I think it was Cinco de Mayo. | ||
| We went down and everybody was out. | ||
| So many people. | ||
| There were no cops. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
| I was like, yeah! | ||
| What are the cops going to do? | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| You didn't tell people to get off the beach? | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| So, that night, everyone's wearing masks. | ||
| Everyone's responsible. | ||
| Socially distancing. | ||
| It was fine. | ||
| It was really cool. | ||
| It was chill. | ||
| You could tell everyone was going crazy, stir-crazy. | ||
| People were partying because it was Cinco de Mayo. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, good job, California. | ||
| I went down the next day, and it appears the word got out. | ||
| And... | ||
| They had turned the Ferris wheel down at the pier into like a weird, creepy, dystopian message. | ||
| It was just like, hey, support our health care workers. | ||
| And then there was a red cross in the Ferris wheel and the police were there and they were like, everyone off the beach. | ||
| The beaches are closed. | ||
| We will cite you. | ||
| And no, to the people's credit, no one gave a fuck and didn't move. | ||
| But they were driving up and down, telling everybody. | ||
| But it was a creepy vibe with the Ferris wheel and the messaging that had totally changed overnight. | ||
| Meanwhile, go to the hospitals out here. | ||
| They're empty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a real problem. | ||
| Hospitals are going bankrupt out here. | ||
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I know. | |
| I know. | ||
| And I read a thing about how a college might go bankrupt, too. | ||
| So I don't know how the schools are going to stay afloat. | ||
| A lot of private schools that are charging exorbitant rates and expect people to do that shit in front of a computer, they're going to go under. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're going to go under. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I mean, again, you at least have a platform you can talk about this and an audience that you hear from. | ||
| And what's the general feeling? | ||
| People are furious. | ||
| There's a certain percentage of people that are cowards. | ||
| And they just want to trust in the government and let the government make these decisions. | ||
| They're doing this with sound science. | ||
| No, but they're not. | ||
| But they're not. | ||
| If they were, I'd be like, okay, I get it. | ||
| Because I was like, okay, I get it in the beginning. | ||
| I didn't protest it in the beginning. | ||
| I canceled gigs. | ||
| I backed off. | ||
| I said, I think they're trying to save us. | ||
| But then when you get the science in, when you get the actual numbers in, you're like, no, this is way different than they thought. | ||
| They thought it was going to be hundreds of thousands dead in California alone. | ||
| No, it's a thousand people, 1,800 people, whatever it is. | ||
| Do you think it'll be worse than that? | ||
| Do you know the average age that people die of this is older than the average age? | ||
| Yeah, it's like 85 plus. | ||
| The average age people die of this is older than the average age people die. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, what? | ||
| I'm worried about Joe Biden. | ||
| He's got no chance. | ||
| This is my other question for you while I'm here. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| You were Bernie, bro, right? | ||
| I like what Bernie stood for. | ||
| I like the ideas that he stood for. | ||
| But he was a socialist. | ||
| This is what I like. | ||
| I like the ideas of helping the people that are downtrodden. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Helping communities that are hurt. | ||
| Making it so that college is free for people. | ||
| You don't have to be financially in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars when you graduate from college. | ||
| We can take our tax money and put it in good things. | ||
| That's what I like about what Bernie stood for. | ||
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Okay. | |
| What I like about him is this healthcare issue that we're dealing with right now. | ||
| I mean, wouldn't it be great if people didn't have to worry about going bankrupt if they get sick? | ||
| This is what I like about Bernie Sanders. | ||
| All those things. | ||
| And that's what he stood for that made sense to me. | ||
| I was like, let's try this. | ||
| It seems like this is a move towards compassion. | ||
| I just wonder how feasible those plans were. | ||
| A lot of people say they're not feasible at all. | ||
| I was like, let's see. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I don't know that. | ||
| The idea is socialism has never worked. | ||
| But the way he describes it is democratic socialism. | ||
| He doesn't describe it as a socialism where you're thinking about some sort of military dictatorship like North Korea or something like that or China. | ||
| It's not the same thing. | ||
| When you equate those two, that's when people get weird. | ||
| But the problem is whenever people get in the kind of position of power where they have this big government machine and they control over people, they abuse it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's the problem. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Our health care system sucks, but I don't know that I trust the government to make it better because there's nothing that they do that they do very well. | ||
| No, there's not one thing you're like, well, they're really good at the post office. | ||
| The post office is awesome. | ||
| Post office is one of the best. | ||
| And, you know, some things are social. | ||
| I like the national parks. | ||
| I'm all for the national parks. | ||
| But other than that, I don't know that I would want... | ||
| I think that the healthcare thing drives me crazy because I don't I'm again I just feel hopelessly dumb and it's such a huge massive problem and it causes me and so many people I know you know debt and problems and it's not fair to you shouldn't I don't understand why it's tied up with your job like that seems like a really silly idea that makes no sense to me Right, and if you do have a nationalized healthcare system, what do you do about people that abuse their body? | ||
| What do you do about them? | ||
| Do you just let them do that? | ||
| Would they let them cost way more money than everybody else? | ||
| But we're paying for that anyway, even in a private system. | ||
| Right, but what do you do? | ||
| What do you do if people just want to keep eating until they explode? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do you say, well, all our tax money is going to go to you because we have to keep you alive? | ||
| But that's why I understand from a heart perspective. | ||
| You know, I think when I was reading this stuff that I wrote when I was like 24 and I was a waitress, and I was like, holy shit, I was AOC. Like, I sound like AOC. Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| I was fucking outraged. | ||
| And when you're a bartender, you're always seeing the downtrodden, and as a waitress, you're not unionized. | ||
| You don't have really very much protection. | ||
| If I was still a waitress right now, I'd be fucked. | ||
| And you don't have anybody really speaking for you. | ||
| You're totally dispensable. | ||
| And I was reading all this stuff and I hated the whole system. | ||
| I was like, burn it all down. | ||
| I didn't have health care because they don't give you health care if you're a waitress. | ||
| So I was reading that. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, it was her. | ||
| But now that I'm, you know, 40, I'm like, how does this? | ||
| I still don't know how to make this work. | ||
| I still don't know how to change that. | ||
| I understand from the heart perspective wanting to help all the people who are vulnerable and downtrodden. | ||
| I just don't know that their solutions are the best solutions, but I don't really know what are. | ||
| Yeah, it's a human problem. | ||
| And human problems never have an answer. | ||
| They're always messy. | ||
| Who do you think Biden's gonna choose? | ||
| Probably Kamala Harris. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| She's the sting of Tulsi Gabbard serving her during the debates. | ||
| It's sort of worn off a little bit. | ||
| And as long as you can keep Tulsi quiet, and she doesn't have any opponents now. | ||
| She's not running against anybody. | ||
| What if he picks Hillary? | ||
| What would you do? | ||
| It'd be hilarious. | ||
| Hillary would just shove her hand deep up his ass and start working his mouth from below like a puppet. | ||
| So turn him into a literal puppet. | ||
| It's gonna be Weekend at Bernie's. | ||
| It will be Weekend at Bernie's. | ||
| It will also be Dick Cheney and George W., right? | ||
| Because Dick Cheney was really running the show. | ||
| And George W. is out there fucking sawing wood in Texas and wearing cowboy boots. | ||
| Joe, we have a fucking election coming up on the heels of all this shit. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And now they're talking in California about digital elections and Hillary's behind it. | ||
| So as soon as Hillary says everyone should be safe to vote and voting at home, oh, this bitch is running its game. | ||
| Something's going on. | ||
| Everyone's losing it, though. | ||
| Everyone's losing their minds. | ||
| I mean, I see all this stuff, too, about, like, Fauci and Gates and the conspiracy theories. | ||
| It's so hard because so many conspiracy theories have ended up being true. | ||
| Listen, Fauci is a virus expert. | ||
| That's what he's always been. | ||
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Right. | |
| There's no conspiracy. | ||
| He's a guy. | ||
| He's a doctor. | ||
| No, but there are conspiracies around him. | ||
| He's in cahoots with Bill Gates and they did a whole thing. | ||
| Stop, stop, stop. | ||
| He's a guy who's a virus expert. | ||
| He's been a virus expert his whole life. | ||
| If he fucking waited until he's 70 years old to cash in his Illuminati chips and this is it. | ||
| We've been running this scam for years. | ||
| I've been pretending to work on AIDS and All these different diseases and all horseshit. | ||
| I'm just evil looking to get paid and finally it's coming my way. | ||
| He would have already cashed in his chips. | ||
| He's not a bad guy. | ||
| He runs three miles a day. | ||
| He looks like he does. | ||
| He's healthy. | ||
| He looks vibrant. | ||
| He used to be seven. | ||
| Now it's three. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, because he's busy. | ||
| Oh, is that what he said? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Because he's working on, you know, all the stuff. | ||
| Look, the only conspiracy that gives me pause is when you see people like Bill Gates saying, we need some sort of a vaccination. | ||
| We need to vaccinate. | ||
| Everyone's going to get vaccinated. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| But have there ever been a virus that's ever been... | ||
| There's a real vaccine that would work for a coronavirus? | ||
| I don't think there has. | ||
| I don't think they've had... | ||
| I don't think they had a virus. | ||
| They were working on a vaccine, rather... | ||
| They were working on a vaccine for SARS, but it never happened. | ||
| And I don't think they've ever had any sort of a vaccine for a coronavirus. | ||
| Is that what he's saying? | ||
| He's saying... | ||
| He's saying they need a vaccine, and they're going to come up with a vaccine, and that's the solution. | ||
| Everybody has to be vaccinated. | ||
| But I don't know if that's even... | ||
| The idea is it'll take 18 months for a vaccine. | ||
| Maybe, or maybe they won't come up with one. | ||
| It's possible that they won't have a vaccine in 18 months. | ||
| So what do you want to do, Bill? | ||
| And if they do have a vaccine, where's the money go for making the vaccine? | ||
| Who's getting paid? | ||
| How many dollars is it? | ||
| Where's that money going? | ||
| Is it a business now? | ||
| So if you have a vaccine, that vaccine turns out that we've got to vaccinate the whole population. | ||
| Okay, so you're going to vaccinate 8 billion people? | ||
| And then where's that money? | ||
| Who gets the money from the manufacturer of the vaccine? | ||
| Are you going to do it completely egalitarian? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it free? | ||
| Is it free? | ||
| New coronavirus vaccine czar says finding one by January is a credible goal. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Pharmaceutical executive. | ||
| He sounds like a character in a movie. | ||
| Mansef Slaoui, former pharmaceutical executive at the White House. | ||
| Chose to lead a crash development program, acknowledged that the 12- to 18-month timeline cited by Dr. Anthony Fauci was already very aggressive, but one by January is possible. | ||
| A credible goal. | ||
| So maybe it is. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Until they have one, you can't say, we've got to vaccinate everybody. | ||
| Let's look at all the possibilities. | ||
| What's the matter? | ||
| You're a crowd waving their hands there. | ||
| January 2021 is what he was saying, but I was like, that's the next January. | ||
| I just jumped ahead. | ||
| I was like, oh shit, that's 16 months old. | ||
| Well, that's what some people are saying, that things are going to be... | ||
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I'm just so happy You have pot? | |
| I have pot. | ||
| I'm so happy. | ||
|
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I'm... | |
| Don't you miss it? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| When people smoke it around you, do you get uncomfortable? | ||
| No, feel free to smoke. | ||
| But do you get uncomfortable? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not at all? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| People, I mean, being around comedians and... | ||
| But you worked at a weed farm while you were sober. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That didn't freak you out at all? | ||
| No. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
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No? | |
| Nothing? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'll make you this promise, Joe. | ||
| If I ever smoke weed, It will be with you for the first time. | ||
| I don't want to be the person who fucks up your life. | ||
| I have friends that used to be all sober, like full sober, and now they smoke pot. | ||
| Only. | ||
| Only pot. | ||
| I did that when I didn't drink. | ||
| When I was trying not to drink, I smoked weed. | ||
| And I definitely just made me want to drink. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But yeah, of course I miss it because it puts, like I said, it's like that fuzzy distance. | ||
| It puts that nice warm fuzzy distance between me and kind of the harsh reality of the world. | ||
| And now I'm very just present with it. | ||
| But I've just been tripping out on Sam Harris's freaking meditation app, which is like a drug. | ||
| Because his is so crazy. | ||
| I've done a lot of meditation in my life. | ||
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A lot. | |
| I'm a yogi. | ||
| I've probably done many, many years. | ||
| But his is so science-based. | ||
| And then it's like, focus on your consciousness. | ||
| And now suddenly you have to focus on the thought. | ||
| And it's like, what happens to the thought when you focus on it? | ||
| And it fucking disappears. | ||
| We share joints. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| We're not scared at all. | ||
| Arrest these men! | ||
| He's been tested. | ||
| Bring them in and arrest them! | ||
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Multiple times. | |
| Multiple times! | ||
| Sam has had quite a bit of experience with not just meditation, but all sorts of altered states of consciousness and those silent retreats. | ||
| He goes to those silent retreats where no one says anything. | ||
| Yeah, that's hard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, when I was in Sri Lanka, it was the last time I used LSD, and I was determined to use it intentionally because I couldn't hold joy. | ||
| I come from a pretty chaotic upbringing, and every time I would... | ||
| Be in a place where I was experiencing joy and having fun. | ||
| I would panic. | ||
| I couldn't experience it. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm going to take this acid and rewire my brain. | ||
| And I'm going to be able to just sit and enjoy myself and not feel like the rug is going to get pulled out from underneath me. | ||
| And it worked. | ||
| You got lucky. | ||
| I got real lucky. | ||
| Because I've had bad trips. | ||
| My worst trip ever, I was kicking heroin. | ||
| And I decided to do mushrooms because it was the only drug I had left. | ||
| And it was a nightmare. | ||
| Hunter S. Thompson apparently stole some sign from the Farrelly Brothers Theater. | ||
| Do you know the Farrelly Brothers Theater? | ||
| Farrelly Brothers? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| The ones in San Francisco. | ||
| They're the ones who produced Behind the Green Door with Marilyn Chambers. | ||
| There was a theater that they had in San Francisco that was like, they would do like sex acts. | ||
| And he stole the sign from the theater and gave it to this couple. | ||
| I think the Jackalope had it on his Instagram. | ||
| And gave the sign to the couple when they got married as a wedding gift along with a bunch of acid. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And the wife did the acid and lost her mind. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And got checked into a mental institution. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| This is a horrible story. | ||
| And stayed there. | ||
| Stayed there forever. | ||
| This is so sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Although it would be cool if you're like, yeah, I had a wife. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| The Jackalope, Jacka underscore Lope is a guy I've chatted with multiple times online. | ||
| He's a Hunter S. Thompson nut. | ||
| So it's, uh, this is the O'Farrell Theater. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm thinking the Farrelly brothers, the guys who make the funny movies. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Hunter stole this sign from the O'Farrell Theater in San Francisco, signed it and gave it to a friend along with 20 hits of acid as a wedding gift. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| The bride took the acid, was committed to a mental institution and never came back. | ||
| True story. | ||
| That's, on the one hand, that's tragic. | ||
| It is. | ||
| On the other hand, how dope would it be to be like, yeah, my bride, my Hunter S. Thompson gave his ass and my bride went insane. | ||
| It depends if you love your bride. | ||
| The sign says, warning, if observing any type of sexual activity offends you, please do not enter. | ||
| This is a private theater club and we wish to preserve the privacy of members and avoid offense to any person. | ||
| Admission is limited to adults who will not be offended should they observe any type of sexual activity. | ||
| That's a pretty freaky sign. | ||
| And he signed it. | ||
| So he signed it at the bottom. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, at least he saw the sign even though he doesn't have his wife. | ||
| Do you know... | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he obviously kept it. | ||
| I think, yeah. | ||
| Someone got it. | ||
| Someone kept it? | ||
| Maybe sold it to someone. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of stories of that. | ||
| People doing acid and just- Losing it? | ||
| A switch flips and that's it. | ||
| I was afraid when I was a burning man, I'm like, I went sober. | ||
| Did you really? | ||
| I did. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And I don't know why anyone needs drugs there. | ||
| I can see why they'd want to take them, but I would be the girl that lost my mind on the playa and left it there. | ||
| I wouldn't come back. | ||
| I can see how you could break your brain. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| I mean, I've definitely had those weird experiences where, have you had this where you kind of float out of your body and you're like... | ||
| Maybe I won't go back. | ||
| That sounds like people at Burning Man have that every day. | ||
| That's a typical Burning Man. | ||
| No. | ||
| Have you been? | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's dirty. | ||
| It's not dirty. | ||
| Oh, everyone's got a mask on because it's dusty. | ||
| They were the original social distancers. | ||
| No, they were well prepared for this. | ||
| I was saying, you know who's having the last laugh right now is the burners. | ||
| Because you have all the masks. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And they're going to go back and no one's going to stop them. | ||
| No, they canceled it. | ||
| I think they can't. | ||
| Didn't they cancel it? | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| Don't let them. | ||
| You guys are all gonna- They're like, damn the man! | ||
| And they're like, oh, well, you can't come. | ||
| They're like, okay. | ||
| It says postponed. | ||
| To when? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| The burners are like, damn the man! | ||
| And the man is like, you can't have Burning Man. | ||
| And they're like, okay. | ||
| When is Burning Man supposed to be? | ||
| It's usually at the end of August. | ||
| Yeah, the last weekend of August. | ||
| Wow, these pussies are already backing off? | ||
| Come on, kids. | ||
| Come on, burners! | ||
| What if they come up with really effective tests? | ||
| They're not even kids. | ||
| The burners are old. | ||
| The people I went with, they'd been going forever. | ||
| That's even weirder. | ||
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Why? | |
| 55-year-old burners. | ||
| Like, hey, man, we're out here doing it. | ||
| I think everyone needs to go once. | ||
| It is like nothing I've ever seen. | ||
| And of course, the minute I get there, someone opens a suitcase full of drugs. | ||
| I'm like, God damn it. | ||
| Like, no, I can't. | ||
| I was so close. | ||
| Because it was during my experimental year of sobriety, and I was determined to make it. | ||
| I'm like, I just got to prove to myself that I'm not an alcoholic and an addict. | ||
| So you just wanted one full year under your belt? | ||
| Yeah, which I did. | ||
| And then you just kept going. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Then I traveled around the world and I was like, fuck this. | ||
| Oh, so that was the Australia days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got drunk right before I left for Australia because I'm like, why would I go to Australia and not drink? | ||
| Well, that's good because that shows that you could both quit and then get back on and then quit again. | ||
| Yeah, but the second time I quit, I was like, I want to kill myself. | ||
| I don't know that I have another time in me. | ||
| Maybe, but... | ||
| Well, don't you think that now things are different? | ||
| Because now you've developed this audience, and you have a successful podcast, and people enjoy your tweets. | ||
| A lot of people love you. | ||
| I would have been fucking Gavin McGannis if I was tweeting while I was drinking. | ||
| I'd be banned from everything. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| I'd be somebody, like one of the band. | ||
| He's the first one that comes to mind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Alex Jones, I would be, if I was drinking and tweeting, no way. | ||
| I'd be canceled. | ||
| When do those people get to come back? | ||
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| Like, do you put people in jail for life? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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That's a weird... | |
| But hold on a second. | ||
| These aren't crimes, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| So nothing one of these guys has done is a crime. | ||
| And, you know, maybe... | ||
| I mean, wait. | ||
| But Alex did have some kind of legal problems. | ||
| Legal problems. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Civil suit versus the families of... | ||
| So there was some kind of crime there. | ||
| Well, there was some kind of... | ||
| There's something for a lawsuit, right? | ||
| There's grounds for a lawsuit. | ||
| And he's been battling this lawsuit for quite a long time. | ||
| So let's assume that gets settled. | ||
| When, if ever, do you let people talk again? | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| If a company owns something, there's two arguments, and like there's the David Pakman audience, which is an argument rather. | ||
| David's argument is that, I hope I'm not misquoting him, he'll be on soon, is that the company should have the ability to set their own guidelines and remove people from the platform if they say things that they feel are objectionable or things that don't align with the way the company views things. | ||
| The problem with that is if it gets so big that the company's got trillions of dollars and it's seen by billions of people every day, and then who gets to make the decision that what they're saying is objectionable? | ||
| Right, I know. | ||
| And is this an ideologically based decision? | ||
| Or is it like, okay, don't show murder. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| Let's not show murder. | ||
| Don't say... | ||
| Whatever about the government. | ||
| Well, that's when it gets weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't say this about the pandemic because videos are getting removed left and right. | ||
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I know. | |
| That's weird. | ||
| I did a joke about this on Dumpster Fire on my show on YouTube. | ||
| And I was like, does YouTube know what their content is? | ||
| It's like half of it is people putting yonis up their vaginas. | ||
| They're like the little jade eggs up their yonis. | ||
| You know, they have like all kinds of- There's a lot of those videos? | ||
| There's a lot of wacky science being presented on YouTube. | ||
| There's definitely a lot of that. | ||
| I think their idea is they're trying to stop disinformation and they're trying to put the kibosh on conspiracy theories. | ||
| But some of the things these people are saying is correct. | ||
| Well, and like Shermer would argue that the only, you know, more speech is the only way to correct incorrect speech. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what everybody would say that's thinking about it logically because the problem with silencing these people, particularly like the 5G folks, right? | ||
| This is a big one. | ||
| 5G. Every time you try to put a 5G conspiracy video up, they take it down. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| I mean, I've heard a lot about the 5G. But here's the thing. | ||
| They'll leave up the flat earth ones. | ||
| Because they're like, this is so fucking stupid. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Stay up. | ||
| But the 5G is like a little... | ||
| But the 5G is like, goddammit, people really believe in this. | ||
| We've got to step in. | ||
| You've got to step in to stop morons from believing something that makes no sense. | ||
| Lil Duval had one Instagram thing on his page that cured it all up. | ||
| And he goes, all you 5G people, it was basically that 5G is only in five countries. | ||
| Coronavirus is in over 100 countries. | ||
| Obviously, it's not 5G that's causing this shit. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm with you, because I'm pretty much a free speech absolutist, I think. | ||
| And then, even when I was thinking, I was reading Sam's book, and he mentioned something. | ||
| It has nothing to do with free speech, and I don't really know where he stands on all this. | ||
| I was just thinking when you were talking about how he was mentioning just how that ideology led to someone flying a plane into the trade centers. | ||
| You know, so bad ideology is something we have to eradicate with more speech, obviously, but it's also... | ||
| Potentially dangerous. | ||
| These companies don't want to be responsible for someone doing something. | ||
| This is where I get confused because I'm all about free markets, too. | ||
| And if it's my company, like, fuck you. | ||
| If you say something, get out of my house. | ||
| But they don't apply their terms regularly. | ||
| You can't say this and people don't say this, but they will say what you're saying is inciting violence to one person. | ||
| And then they'll say to another person, oh, you said punch a Nazi in the face. | ||
| Here's a blue check. | ||
| And so there is an unfair application of the terms of service. | ||
| And I think that's where most people get upset. | ||
| And like you're saying, some of that, you know, I don't I don't really know anything about Milo, but I do know that he's been pretty much like depersoned. | ||
| I don't even know if the guy can get, like, a bank, you know, I think once they have trouble getting, like, bank accounts and stuff, or they can't get, maybe it's not bank accounts, but, like, Venmo, you know, they get banned off of the PayPal, so... | ||
| How are you... | ||
| I guess it's just the early warning signs of people interfering with being able to make a living, but how are they supposed to make... | ||
| What's tech deciding that they don't want you on their platform? | ||
| And if they're in a position like Venmo or PayPal, and that's what you're using for donation, they can say, your ideology doesn't match up with the values of our company. | ||
| We're going to kick you off, but... | ||
| You've got to show what that ideology is. | ||
| What specifically is it? | ||
| Have a conversation about it. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| It depends on what you're saying. | ||
| Because if it's someone just saying something that's opposed to your views politically, you've got to let people talk this shit through. | ||
| I mean, if it's one thing... | ||
| I mean, there's racist stuff on YouTube. | ||
| You can find things that are sexist on YouTube. | ||
| You can find things that are homophobic on YouTube. | ||
| You can find a lot of stuff. | ||
| We can't decide that the disagreeable boundary is left and right. | ||
| You can't do that because there's crazy religious stuff that you keep on YouTube. | ||
| I mean, you want to talk about conspiracy theories. | ||
| I watched The Beheading! | ||
| Well, they take those down. | ||
| They take them down, but they still, I've seen them on YouTube. | ||
| But there's plenty of religious ones. | ||
| The point is, there's plenty of people saying absolutely outrageous shit that can't be real. | ||
| And you don't do anything about that. | ||
| So when you're talking about conspiracy theories, and you're talking about ideological rifts between people, they're not even with it. | ||
| But how do you think they should address that? | ||
| You know, when do you think these people get to talk again or whatever, which is an insane thing that we're even saying. | ||
| The fact that we're even saying, like, when do we let these people talk again is fucking insane. | ||
| This is what I think. | ||
| I think that at a certain point in time, we have to look at whether it's the ability to tweet something or post a video or make an Instagram post. | ||
| You have to think that this is... | ||
| This is a way to express yourself that we should all enjoy along with the same way we enjoy the idea of free speech and the ability to assemble. | ||
| The ability to assemble and talk about things. | ||
| This is very similar to what these tweets are. | ||
| But they're private companies. | ||
| One of two things has to happen, I think. | ||
| Either they have to change their perspective and they have to allow opposing ideas on their platforms. | ||
| Even as heinous as they might be. | ||
| Or we have to find a better alternative. | ||
| And we have to find a company that recognizes the flaws in the current model or the old model. | ||
| And they say, look, we can't do this. | ||
| You're making the divide stronger. | ||
| When people find out that You know, like the Veritas stuff, you know, that guy, Project Veritas, James O'Keefe, when he was exposing that these Twitter executives were saying how they were talking about the strategies they use to silence MAGA users, to silence Trump supporters, and you just find certain algorithms and things they say, and then you make it so it's difficult to find their page. | ||
| That's creepy shit. | ||
| You've got to let people choose. | ||
| You've got to let people choose what they like and what they don't like. | ||
| Because there's a line, and you can keep moving that line. | ||
| You can say, we don't want anyone who says anything bad about X, Y, or Z. And who gets to be the arbiter of that decision. | ||
| And then it can get to a point where it would happen to Zuby. | ||
| Where he got banned off of Twitter for saying, okay, dude, to somebody. | ||
| Someone said, I bet I can have sex with more women than you can. | ||
| And he goes, okay, dude. | ||
| And they're like, violation, you're done. | ||
| Turns out it must have been a trans person. | ||
| He still doesn't even know. | ||
| And Then they reviewed it and still kept it upon review. | ||
| But he's still on Twitter. | ||
| They suspended him, right? | ||
| They suspended him. | ||
| They put him in Twitter jail. | ||
| They're basically letting you know, hey, you better censor yourself. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Better fucking jump in line. | ||
| The idea that you can't say, okay, dude, to somebody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I use dude with my girlfriends all the time. | ||
| Yeah, I use it all the time. | ||
| If I'm talking to a female friend, I'll be like, dude. | ||
| It's a normal thing that men and women say to each other. | ||
| Even if they're just friends, it has nothing to do with someone who's trying to insult somebody or pretend that you're a guy or misgender you. | ||
| That's not what it is. | ||
| What bothers me is that he said that, you know, and it might have been like, okay, dude, but we're ascribing intent. | ||
| So they're saying you meant this in one way, even if he might have been like, whatever. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Why is it okay if that person calls you a cunt or a fucking idiot or a moron, but it's not okay if you call them a dude? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that the worst insult? | ||
| I missed that whole thing. | ||
| I was offline. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dead naming. | ||
| That's a bannable offense on Twitter. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So if you used to be a girl and then you decided to transition to be a guy and I insist on calling you Bridget on Twitter, I'm banned for life. | ||
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| Dead naming. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Is that in the terms of service? | ||
| It's a new thing. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's a thing that they've adopted over the last couple of years. | ||
| So this is where his okay dude falls in line. | ||
| Somehow or another misgendering. | ||
| Misgendering is another reason you can get banned for life. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, I'm all for whatever, respecting what people want to be called, but then it moves into when you are enforcing it. | ||
| Now it's that line kind of Jordan Peterson drew in some respects where it's like, I'll be polite. | ||
| I will polite... | ||
| I'm not a monster. | ||
| I will respect whatever people want me to call them. | ||
| If you said, Bridget, I want you to call me Josephina, I would call you Josephina because I'm not an asshole. | ||
| Yeah, you can change your name. | ||
| But if suddenly Twitter was like, you called him Joe, I'm going to ban you, that gets into another territory. | ||
| Here's a good example, too. | ||
| Like, if you decide that you want to be called Debbie, and I'll go, okay. | ||
| When I speak to you, the noise that comes out of my mouth will be Debbie. | ||
| If you don't call me Debbie, you're going to kick the fuck off Twitter! | ||
| But if you then go, and my pronouns are Zeer and Zar, I'd be like, nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I'm not making up. | ||
| I'm not playing Dungeons& Dragons with you. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| You're either a he or a she or you can even be a they. | ||
| That's who you prefer. | ||
| You can't make up one. | ||
| I'm again like... | ||
| A they doesn't even work most of the time. | ||
| It's funny because the younger generation is much more relaxed about this. | ||
| They're like, whatever, I'll call them whatever they want. | ||
| Like the kids these days are like, I don't care. | ||
| They just... | ||
| In the same way that I grew up and my older folks might have been like, ah, gay marriage. | ||
| And they'd be all outraged. | ||
| And we were all like, ah, whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's a controversial question. | ||
| There's way more kids that are trans today. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Way more. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Isn't there? | ||
| It's a trap! | ||
| Is this because they feel comfortable enough to be trans and they've always been trans? | ||
| Or is it possible that it's a cultural thing and then it seems like it's more acceptable to be trans so they just take a chance or they... | ||
| Maybe it's just the experimental cool thing to do. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of people that experiment with all sorts of things, and this is not denying trans people in any way. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We've got to be really clear, because I don't want anybody to be upset. | ||
| But there are impressionable people that, look, somebody talked those fucking Heaven's Gate guys into cutting their balls off and waiting for the comet that was going to take them away to some other planet. | ||
| You could talk someone into being gay. | ||
| Tiger King did it. | ||
| Joe Exotic talked those guys into being gay. | ||
| That story with Travis is really sad. | ||
| It is sad. | ||
| But this is what I'm saying. | ||
| Could someone talk you into being trans or is that the one thing you can't talk a person into being? | ||
| Because you could talk a person into being a whole lot of things. | ||
| Well, I wonder, too, if it's, you know, culturally just one of these things that they're trying on like a loose garment, but then because they've done a lot of studies. | ||
| And you're not talking about everybody. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Small percentage. | ||
| But I'm just saying that maybe they've done a lot of studies that many times when kids experience gender dysphoria when they're younger, a lot of the time they'll grow out of it. | ||
| Well, a lot of time they become gay men. | ||
| It's mad. | ||
| There's been studies on this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| We're morons. | ||
| I wouldn't know how to phrase that. | ||
| Plus you get put on a list. | ||
| What worries me is co-signing on that and giving young kids who might grow out of something like hormones and stuff like that. | ||
| That's where I feel like... | ||
| Okay, maybe it's in the culture. | ||
| It's like the kind of cool thing. | ||
| Maybe there's more because it's more acceptable. | ||
| Or maybe it's just something that you're kind of like... | ||
| There was a part of my life where I was like, am I a lesbian? | ||
| Maybe I am. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| But maybe it might be something that's a curiosity when you're younger and it might be something that is like the cool thing. | ||
| So, yeah, I think that we have to accept that that's not always going to be the case for everyone. | ||
| For some people, that will absolutely be the truth. | ||
| But with children, here's what I'm hesitant about. | ||
| What freaks me out is not people that are like you or me that are like, ooh, is this a good thing to do? | ||
| It's people that know it's the best thing for the child. | ||
| That's what freaks me out. | ||
| What freaks me out is people that are pro-transitioning at a really young age 100% of the time and they think it's amazing. | ||
| Do you know who I'm talking about? | ||
| They get this thing where like... | ||
| I mean, there are doctors co-signing on this shit. | ||
| He's three and he's trans. | ||
| He's a boy. | ||
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| Are you sure? | ||
| I mean, I'll get in trouble. | ||
| I'll probably get in trouble for saying it, but I just don't. | ||
| Maybe when you're a young... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| When you're an adolescent, up to like 13, 14, I would maybe even argue... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how you can co-sign on that and be like, yes, this child who should be listening, you know, this child knows what's best for them. | ||
| I wanted to do a lot of fucking things when I was a kid that I couldn't do. | ||
| You know, if I wanted to become, if I was a talented musician and wanted to go join a band and I was some kind of phenom at 14, my parents would have been like, oh, too bad, you have to wait. | ||
| They would have made me They would have said, you're too young to go do that. | ||
| Yeah, you can't go to London. | ||
| Yeah, you're not going to London with these fucking perverts, Bridget. | ||
| And I'm not calling... | ||
| It's an ideological battleground. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| It's an ideological battleground. | ||
| Here's the thing, it's like, the people that say that it's not something that you should be hesitant about, it's not something that should concern you, those are the people that have a problem with it, because what is your justification? | ||
| Like, you must have some massive generalization, or there must be a switch that you know of that I don't, that someone is definitely trans or not trans when they're young and they're confused. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's the one thing that they know about, if you asked a three-year-old, what are you going to be forever and you can't change it, what's going to be your occupation? | ||
| Some might say turtles. | ||
| I don't know that you can... | ||
| Well, someone had a great line. | ||
| I forget who it was. | ||
| Some comic had it on Twitter. | ||
| It said, you don't let a six-year-old pick out their outfit. | ||
| Why would you let them pick out their gender? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so that's another... | ||
| And again, I'm not a parent. | ||
| So you are. | ||
| You have a little bit more ground to stand on. | ||
| I will get into this argument with people and immediately it's like, well, you're not a parent. | ||
| Listen, kids... | ||
| Very wildly. | ||
| That's why the idea of being blanket for kids transitioning with hormone blockers and all this crazy shit like I had a conversation with Adam Conover about it and It was like a big viral moment for this discussion and people called me a transphobe like Nothing could be further from the case. | ||
| I'm not at anything phobe. | ||
| I love everybody equally if you're if you've got your shit together I want you to have your shit together. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Even if you don't have your shit together. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, if you're a person who can talk, I'm not prejudging anybody on anything. | ||
| But when you start talking about children and their future, and I know that it's synced up to a virtue. | ||
| It's synced up to some sort of an ideological virtue signaling thing that you can do to say that you're pro-trans. | ||
| Well, that's what worries me. | ||
| You're pro-children transitioning. | ||
| And then when I ask you why you're so certain and you don't have good answers, I'm like, okay, this is a cult thing. | ||
| You're in that cult and you know there's things that you have to say in order to be accepted by that cult. | ||
| Yeah, that's what worries me is that it's more like take away from the children. | ||
| I allow for kids to explore and whatever. | ||
| I think it's great that society is more open because phobias of any like transphobia, homophobia, these are not helpful for our society in general. | ||
| I do worry that parents eager to be progressive, you know, warriors for their team and in these progressive enclaves where they're trying to kind of outwoke each other will use their children as Means to, they're like little advertisements. | ||
| And it sounds horrible, but it's true. | ||
| What you just said sounds horrible, but it's true. | ||
| You see it in, on a very small scale. | ||
| I used to work at a, I taught theater to kids at a very, like in Temescal at a camp. | ||
| They used to be there. | ||
| And this one kid came in, and this kid must have been five or six years old. | ||
| And he had a t-shirt on that said, I never live east of the 405. And I was like, wow! | ||
| You are using your child as an advertisement for your wealth. | ||
| Like, it was just a little walking billboard that said, my parents are rich, basically. | ||
| And you see this all the time with, you know, I was watching... | ||
| That doesn't necessarily mean rich. | ||
| It could be Venice. | ||
| No, I know, but... | ||
| Huntington Beach? | ||
| No, east of the 405. I would never live east of the 405. Yeah. | ||
| Huntington Beach is west of the 405. That's the beach. | ||
| Yeah, it's west. | ||
| I would never live east of the 405. It's like I wouldn't live in Inland Empire. | ||
| I wouldn't live in the Valley. | ||
| I wouldn't live in Encino. | ||
| That's east of the 405. No, actually that's west. | ||
| Encino's west. | ||
| No, the kid was saying I would never live east of the 405, which Huntington Beach and all that's west of the 405. Right. | ||
| All the beach communities are west. | ||
| Right, but that's not a rich community. | ||
| Huntington Beach is not rich. | ||
| They're pretty. | ||
| I mean, anyone living on the beach in LA, Venice is pretty rich. | ||
| Long Beach is rich? | ||
| Venice is like tech rich now. | ||
| That's where Snoop comes from. | ||
| Long Beach is changing. | ||
| It's not cheap. | ||
| It's $800,000 to get a little house in Long Beach. | ||
| But isn't it also like people on the west side are extremely liberal? | ||
| Yeah, in general. | ||
| But anyway, my point is that people often use their kids as billboards for whatever signaling. | ||
| I was watching some, it was a bunch of people protesting the lockdown, and this little kid was chanting something at the dude about fake news. | ||
| And I was like, this is what we do to kids with, you know, sports. | ||
| It's easy to indoctrinate children. | ||
| Very easy. | ||
| Did you see that one guy that was walking around? | ||
| I think Sam Tripoli had it up on his Instagram page. | ||
| The guy was walking around at the protest in Newport. | ||
| Newport might have been Huntington Beach. | ||
| And this guy's walking around with a megaphone while everybody's saying, we open back up California. | ||
| Bill Gates is the devil! | ||
| The Bill Gates stuff is so funny to me. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
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He became a villain out of nowhere. | |
| What's that quote? | ||
| You either die a hero, you live long enough to become a villain. | ||
| He's lived long enough to become a villain. | ||
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| The Gates Foundation literally gives millions of dollars away to charity. | ||
| When I was in Rome and all over the world, when you go to any of these places, you know, what he's done in Africa. | ||
| Did you see the whole documentary? | ||
| Like, he built freaking toilets for, like, all of Africa. | ||
| You know, he's, like, making... | ||
| He literally figured out how to fucking help them with one of the biggest problems in Africa. | ||
| And everyone's like, fuck Bill Gates. | ||
| In Rome, everything's crumbling in Greece because they don't have the money to maintain all their antiquities. | ||
| And so the Gates Foundation is everywhere, keeping all of our history basically from crumbling. | ||
| But he fucked up instead of talking about vaccines. | ||
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And people are like, you want to get rich off the backs of all these people you're going to inject your microchips into! | |
| I did a radio hit, and it was like a right-wing guy, and I didn't really know much, but... | ||
| He was asking me, out of the blue, he's like, and then did you see Melinda Gates today? | ||
| I was like, oh shit. | ||
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When I do these sets, I'm like, oh no. | |
| I'm like, I'm not going to get into this whole anti-Gates thing. | ||
| Well, he's done so much good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But to be fair, she was out there talking about when we should open up and vaccines, and I'm like, yeah, maybe just... | ||
| I keep saying this. | ||
| If I was rich, you would never fucking hear from me right now. | ||
| I would be on a beach. | ||
| There's so much... | ||
| It's a class war. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| It's a class war. | ||
| If you had money, you would still be spouting out. | ||
| Stop your bullshit. | ||
| If somebody gave you $100 million, you would wait about a month, and you'd go right back on Twitter. | ||
| Fuck yeah, you know I'm right. | ||
| You know I'm right. | ||
| You love doing it. | ||
| It's fun for you. | ||
| And you're great at it. | ||
| You're one of the best tweeters alive. | ||
| No, you're probably right. | ||
| I'm right about that. | ||
| You're one of the best tweeters alive. | ||
| This thing that they're doing where they're telling people they're going to have to get vaccinated, this is what is a part of the problem. | ||
| Because there's a lot of people that have kicked this disease. | ||
| We've got to figure out why they kicked it. | ||
| Whether it's nutrition, whether it's genetics, we've got to figure that out. | ||
| And this thing that you're saying, everybody's got to get vaccinated. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| You don't even know, first of all, you don't even know if they're going to be able to nail this vaccine. | ||
| I hope they do. | ||
| I hope they do. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird to see the convergence of the anti-vaxxers and all of this talk, because I wrote a piece about, it was like a satirical piece, I was saying why Stop getting mad at antifaxers for bringing disease into the herd and it was all about it because it was during like the measles outbreaks which we've almost eradicated and now it's making a comeback and There's so much overlap in those Communities now with this | ||
| yeah, but you can't really conflate the two because we know how to get rid of the measles We know we can get rid of the measles. | ||
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We have something that works and Right, but it's a liberty thing. | |
| See, the problem is whenever you start telling people what they have to do, even if it's good for them, they get mad. | ||
| Well, and even with the vaccine thing, I don't like to be so black or white about even that because there is a conversation to be had there. | ||
| Is it good to have vaccines that protect the herd immunity from diseases we've pretty much eradicated? | ||
| Yes, because you're putting a lot of other people at risk and pregnant moms when they go to the waiting room, and there's so many side effects if somebody has measles. | ||
| But Should they have 67 vaccines in order to attend school, including HPV? That's not herd immunity. | ||
| Why do they need to get the California... | ||
| Why do they need that when they're babies? | ||
| Have you seen the list? | ||
| It's a crazy list. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| So that's where I'm like... | ||
| Well, the problem with anti-vaxxers is they do cause people to get cavalier about this shit and then measles makes a comeback. | ||
| That's real. | ||
| Polio makes a comeback. | ||
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The only reason we're having this conversation is because we got rid of that shit. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's just hubris. | ||
| But... | ||
| When someone says, we have to get a vaccine, and everyone's going to have to take the vaccine, people automatically get cautious. | ||
| And then when that person's a billionaire that might be connected to the Illuminati, you're like, hey, this fucking guy's going to make money off this vaccine. | ||
| Everyone's brains are broken. | ||
| I think Trump broke everyone's brains. | ||
| Everyone's so worried because everything becomes this partisan thing, and then it's like, yeah, I'll get measles to own the libs. | ||
| There's so much, like, I'm going to do this thing that Like, cut off my nose to spite my face or whatever that... | ||
| Yeah, I'll be a martyr. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| So, but wait, I still want to know, when do you think the people should be able to, like, talk again? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Alex Jones at least has Infowars.com. | ||
| He can do his own thing and people go to that. | ||
| And Gavin's got his show still. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is he still on YouTube or did they kick him off of YouTube? | ||
| I don't know if he's still on YouTube. | ||
| Because they kicked him off a lot of things a little while ago and it didn't seem like there was a clear reason. | ||
| It's like they just decided they were going to get rid of him. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He had been on. | ||
| He had some scandals but he had stayed on YouTube and basically followed the rules. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what happened? | ||
| Oh, is he still on there? | ||
| He's definitely still on. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So he's still on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's interesting too, right? | ||
| They have their own thing, and if you go on Telegraph, they're all there. | ||
| They're all hanging out. | ||
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What's Telegraph? | |
| It's like a microblogging service, and I think Milo's there and Gavin's there, and it's a little bit like Twitter, but it's kind of like... | ||
| For the band and for people who... | ||
| Yeah, I saw him. | ||
| He was on one of those things, Gab or something like that, talking about... | ||
| Milo was complaining about the actual numbers he reaches now, how unsustainable it is. | ||
| Obviously, there's a lot of people that like him. | ||
| Look, he's a funny guy. | ||
| He says funny shit. | ||
| He really does. | ||
| And I don't think he's been accurately portrayed. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I mean, I think he definitely said some stupid shit, but that's part of the fun of what he was doing. | ||
| He's a provocateur. | ||
| And he was definitely doing some stuff that... | ||
| There's a question of whether or not there was multiple accounts that he was using to anonymous accounts. | ||
| That was an accusation, but Twitter didn't want to substantiate that when I talked to them about it because I think they're worried about the legal ramifications. | ||
| We addressed that. | ||
| Yeah, it's problematic because you end up, you know, as someone who's kind of all for free speech, I often get told that I'm bad because I have to defend people whose language I don't agree with. | ||
| That is what free speech is. | ||
| It's not defending everyone who says things that I love. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense because that means you're right all the time. | ||
| Like if you're only defending the things that you believe in. | ||
| You write all the time about everything? | ||
| But I have to defend the people who say things that are even atrocious and that I would never get on board with because that's what free speech is. | ||
| And like you said, it is that slippery slope of who gets to be the arbiter of what is said. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what are your guidelines? | ||
| And when I'm saying this about Yeah. | ||
| that you receive or choose not to. | ||
| But the idea that only my ideas should get broadcast because your ideas are contrary to my ideas, I'm going to cut off the pipeline for you to express those and work those out. | ||
| And look, there's a lot of people that had some terrible ideas early in their life, and then they changed. | ||
| There's that guy, what's his name, Christian Picciolini, who was in the KKK. He was in some sort of white supremacist organization when he was young, and now he talks about the dangers of these organizations. | ||
| It's like me being AOC when I was young. | ||
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| Well, people change. | ||
| No, you do. | ||
| And you have to be able to, if there's no path to redemption, what is the point? | ||
| Right, so what is the path to redemption? | ||
| You leave people with nothing. | ||
| And hopelessness is the worst. | ||
| So if you're taking everything away from somebody and then you're saying you're in the bad place now forever, What is their incentive to even open their mind and have a different—why not just double down? | ||
| Let's give a recent example. | ||
| Here's a recent example, a good one. | ||
| London Real. | ||
| London Real had an interview with David Icke. | ||
| I don't know who any of these people are. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| London Real is a popular YouTube show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And they had an interview with David Icke. | ||
| David Icke is a conspiracy theorist who thinks that the elites turn into lizards. | ||
| He says he's seen their eyes shift. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He talked about it on this podcast. | ||
| Seen their eyes shift. | ||
| Yes, I've seen their eyes shift. | ||
| Okay, right there you should be like, okay, this is fun. | ||
| This is fun time. | ||
| This guy thinks that fucking the queen's a lizard lady. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you want to look out for people that are so fucking dumb... | ||
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That they're like, oh, did you hear about the lizard people? | |
| Yeah, they're real, man. | ||
| But there's a lot of those people. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what? | ||
| I agree. | ||
| This is evolution here. | ||
| We're stopping the flow of evolution. | ||
| Because if, look, this is how I feel about televangelists, right? | ||
| If you're so dumb, you want to give Joel Olsteen all your money even though you're poor because you think that somehow or another this is going to save you and God's grace is going to be upon you because you tithe all your money to Joel Olsteen and he drives around to Bentley and you're happy for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, that's legal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's dumb as fuck, but it doesn't work on you. | ||
| It works on only the dumbest of dumb people. | ||
| And so they're like, oh, I guess it's okay. | ||
| This is the same thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is the same thing. | ||
| If you're so fucking dumb, you really believe that David Icke's seen people's eyeballs shift over and that there's lizards that are secretly transforming into politicians and then going back to lizards when no one's looking. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| So if you take that guy off, you just make him bigger. | ||
| So there's a giant story that this David Icke podcast was removed from YouTube. | ||
| And it keeps getting removed. | ||
| People keep uploading it. | ||
| It's like that Plandemic documentary that everybody keeps sending me. | ||
| It gets removed and then people upload it everywhere. | ||
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They get uploaded everywhere. | |
| They're trying to hide the truth. | ||
| Just leave it alone and let people criticize it. | ||
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It makes it seem real. | |
| It makes it seem way more real. | ||
| Yeah, it makes it seem real. | ||
| Nobody would have gave a fuck about that David Icke interview. | ||
| I mean, it would because it's on London Real and it's a popular program. | ||
| So some people would have watched it. | ||
| But nobody would have really thought that the fucking lizard people are there. | ||
| And the people that do think that, they're going to think anything. | ||
| You could talk them into cutting their balls off and riding the fucking comet. | ||
| And joining your cult. | ||
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And joining my cult. | |
| But the thing is, you've got to let that exist. | ||
| But they will with some shit. | ||
| They will with the flat earth people. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| The flat earth shit is still up. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But they get to the 5G and they're like, nope, too much. | ||
| Too real. | ||
| So David Icke was talking about 5G. From what I said, what I read rather, I don't even, because I didn't watch the whole thing, but I don't even think he was saying that 5G causes it. | ||
| But he was doing some wacky, very articulate conspiracy shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We live in just weird, weird... | ||
| It's only getting weirder! | ||
| But here's what's interesting. | ||
| This is what we need to accept about people like David Icke and a lot of these people. | ||
| There is clearly a lot of entertainment value in someone saying preposterous shit that any intelligent person knows is not true. | ||
| There's some weird entertainment value in someone that really does believe that aliens live amongst us and that they're shapeshifters and that if you look back, all of our leaders have all been... | ||
| Related together and they're one gene pool that the ancient Sumerians brought together. | ||
| They came here from planet Nibiru. | ||
| There's something really entertaining about that. | ||
| Scientology. | ||
| Not just Scientology. | ||
| There's a lot of those. | ||
| A lot of it. | ||
| People watch my YouTube show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's kind of an art form. | ||
| This is what I'm thinking. | ||
| It's performance art. | ||
| It is a kind of performance art along with a little bit of horse shit. | ||
| And some people... | ||
| Who is that crazy stand-up guy, Andy Kaufman? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's like everyone's become Andy Kaufman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex Jones is funnier than Andy Kaufman's ever been. | ||
| Alex Jones is fucking hilarious, often. | ||
| Did you see the whole that he's Bill Hicks? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Conspiracy? | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| I went down that rabbit hole. | ||
| That's the silliest shit ever. | ||
| I know, but there are videos. | ||
| But he had one thing we're talking about, like if it's between his family starving or eating his neighbor. | ||
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| He's like, I'll eat your ass. | ||
| I thought. | ||
| And so it became this, come on. | ||
| Do you don't think there's an entertainment value in him saying he's going to eat his neighbor? | ||
| It's on my dumpster fire! | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there's something to that, like to stop that and ban that. | ||
| You're not stopping anybody from anything bad by not having Alex do this entertaining thing about eating his neighbor. | ||
| You're not saving anybody. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What is he doing that's so awful? | ||
| I don't know how to fix any of it. | ||
| It's entertaining. | ||
| Why is it only acceptable if you have some kind of entertainment? | ||
| Because there's so many rap videos that you could watch that I enjoy, but they're talking about shooting people and robbing people, and it's... | ||
| Everywhere on YouTube. | ||
| It's so prevalent. | ||
| And somehow or another, that's okay. | ||
| Like, it's fucking weird what's allowed and what's not allowed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess I underestimated the culture wars. | ||
| I never really I didn't I kind of stumbled half-ass into them. | ||
| It's complicated. | ||
| It's so complicated and it's not just a or you know, it's not like one tribe or another has I I'm very Skeptical of anyone who's all in on like 100% this is the way. | ||
| 100% COVID's gonna kill us all. | ||
| We should stay in 100%. | ||
| We should open everything fucking back up. | ||
| Let it ride. | ||
| There's somewhere in the middle. | ||
| You know what's the Rosetta Stone of the culture war? | ||
| No. | ||
| Tekashi 6ix9ine. | ||
| That fucking rapper dude with the stupid tattoos all over his face and the rainbow hair who was a rat. | ||
| He ratted out all these gang members and he was in the witness protection program and now he's out. | ||
| He wasn't in the protection program, but he got a much lighter sentence. | ||
| Because he ratted on people. | ||
| Because the rap culture has always been no rats, snitches get stitches. | ||
| That's always been the culture. | ||
| He is now the most popular rapper on earth. | ||
| He has a video that he just released a few days ago that is, what is it now, 150 million views on the video? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Okay, it's probably more than that. | ||
| I said 150, but that was probably yesterday. | ||
| 159 right now. | ||
| 159 million views. | ||
| And it's terrible. | ||
| Why does that make him the rose out of stone though? | ||
| Because there's no logic. | ||
| There's no logic to anything people are doing. | ||
| If you're trying to look for logic in what's popular or human behavior or what people are really excited about, like what's scaring them, what's good and what's bad, this is the guy. | ||
| That's Takeshi69. | ||
| I thought you meant he was like the key to translating it. | ||
| This is the key to translating it. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| He's nonsense. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| The world is filled with nonsense and people are paying attention to this nonsense and frantic about this nonsense. | ||
| It's even creepier with the sound off. | ||
| Oh, it's terrible. | ||
| You should hear it with the sound on. | ||
| I've never heard it with a sound on. | ||
| Well, it's standard rap, braggadocious type shit. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| But people love it. | ||
| Look, it's kind of entertaining. | ||
| I mean, that's what it is. | ||
| It's got a good beat to it. | ||
| I listen to it. | ||
| But does it have 150 million worth beat? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I mean, that's what everyone calls it. | ||
| Clown world. | ||
| Isn't that what everyone says? | ||
| It's clown world. | ||
| The world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, we live in a clown world. | ||
| We do kind of live in clown world. | ||
| It's idiocracy. | ||
| It's something... | ||
| What happened? | ||
| We had so much. | ||
| We had it all. | ||
| And we were just pissing it away. | ||
| We'll bounce back. | ||
| Do you think? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So you're ultimately, after our long-winded, slightly terrifying conversation about the culture, ultimately, who do you think, do you think Biden's going to make it to the election? | ||
| Well, it's going to be a joke if he does. | ||
| The idea that people are all in on Biden. | ||
| I don't think if they let the two of them talk in the same room and have some sort of a debate, I think Donald Trump's going to eviscerate him. | ||
| I don't even think he's going to be close. | ||
| He still has his wits. | ||
| He's still sharp. | ||
| He's still mean. | ||
| He's still well prepared with the digs and how he talks. | ||
| He calls him sleepy Joe. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Do you see how dismissive he was? | ||
| He's a troll. | ||
| But do you see how dismissive he was when he was talking about something that Biden said? | ||
| The Vice President Joe Biden said, he goes, first of all, Biden didn't say that. | ||
| He goes, a Democratic operative said that. | ||
| He goes, Biden probably doesn't even know this is happening. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| He has these ads on Facebook, Trump, that are all like anti... | ||
| They're like, oh, he's too old. | ||
| I'm like, you guys are four years apart. | ||
| Well, that's all he needs. | ||
| Have you seen Trump's 404 pages on his website yet? | ||
| Oh my god, there. | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| This is fucking hilarious. | ||
| He's trolling everyone. | ||
| He trolls everyone. | ||
| Like when you can't find something, it's like the error page. | ||
| I think this made it into one of our earliest episodes of Dumpster Fire because we have a whole segment on the show called Troll in Chief and it's basically like every week, what the fuck is he doing? | ||
| Who's he trolling now? | ||
| Do you want to see the most adorable Trump thing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lady who put together this... | ||
| Hold on, sorry. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| Let me say it again. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It appears you are as lost as me. | ||
| That's this 404 with Joe Biden with his mouth open. | ||
| It's not the only one. | ||
| He's got like a Hillary one. | ||
| Didn't he have a Warren one too? | ||
| Aren't you looking for something that doesn't exist? | ||
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| I mean, how do you... | ||
| Come on, that's hilarious. | ||
| This guy understands the culture. | ||
| I want you to look up hashtag ToddlerTrump on Instagram. | ||
| Oh, I saw this. | ||
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I saw this. | |
| This lady made this face swap video that's worthy of Kyle Dunnigan. | ||
| It's Trump's face on a baby, and she starts talking to the baby, accusing the baby of doing things with the baby, saying, no, no, no! | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| Yeah, it was on Jimmy Kimmel's show. | ||
| Right, but the lady, let's give the lady credit who made it. | ||
| She's got a bunch of funny shit on her. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel credits Dr. Fakenstein. | ||
| Oh, is it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, okay, perfect. | ||
| So, again, back to being the arbiter of what's online, with the deep fakes and shit, it's going to get so wild. | ||
| Give me some volume on this. | ||
| Go from the beginning. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel's talking in it, so... | ||
| Oh, this is the Jimmy Kimmel one? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Don't do that one. | ||
| Here. | ||
| No, hashtag on Instagram, go to toddler, hashtag toddler Trump. | ||
| Okay, you said it's adorable, but it's honestly also terrifying. | ||
| Deep fakes are terrifying. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Yeah, this one is particularly cute, though. | ||
| Yeah, here, I'll send you the... | ||
| I found it. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| There's a... | ||
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Here it is. | |
| That's it. | ||
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It's so cute! | |
| Yes, you said only 15 people have it and it would go down close to zero. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| How cute is that? | ||
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You said chloroquine would treat it. | |
| That's a bad thing. | ||
| You said anyone who needs a test can get one. | ||
| You praised China for being transparent. | ||
| You got rid of the pandemic response team. | ||
| You ignored every morning throughout January and February. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| If you see it, it's this... | ||
| I love it. | ||
| First of all, that lady's abusing her baby. | ||
| Because she's accusing the baby of something. | ||
| That baby clearly doesn't know what the fuck she's saying. | ||
| I feel like it was just a video of the baby that they overdubbed. | ||
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Stop it! | |
| It was 100% what happened. | ||
| You don't know shit. | ||
| They're abusing... | ||
| They're abusing that kid. | ||
| I feel like you're the kind of person who would believe any conspiracy theory that you read. | ||
| They're abusing that kid. | ||
| Imagine if your kid actually had Trump's little face. | ||
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No. | |
| You'd be like, what do we do? | ||
| Imagine if your kid was born and that was actually a real baby. | ||
| In L.A. If it wasn't even a face swap, just people that got, their kid got a fucking shithead of the, roll the dice. | ||
| The kid's got a 70-year-old man's face. | ||
| The fuck do we do? | ||
| And you're like in a liberal place. | ||
| The kid looks like Trump and you're taking him to the supermarket. | ||
| He was born this way! | ||
| We voted for Pence! | ||
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I mean... | |
| The internet at its best is when it's doing stuff like that. | ||
| Do you think Pence can be president? | ||
| What if he dies? | ||
| What if Trump gets COVID and dies? | ||
| That would be... | ||
| That's not happening. | ||
| What if Pence won? | ||
| Do you think this country would handle President Pence? | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| Be super religious. | ||
| Yeah, but it doesn't matter because now the culture wars, it's just red and blue. | ||
| We are deep and we're deep. | ||
| People are always talking about how the Civil War is coming. | ||
| I'm like, that's ridiculous. | ||
| I don't know if the Civil War is coming, but something's happening. | ||
| There's a violent split between two sides here. | ||
| And I think we're using it as... | ||
| It's sort of a focus of our frustration and our attention that's not necessarily rational. | ||
| Well, everything's... | ||
| More than it is... | ||
| Everything's become political. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Well, it's the focus of our attention instead of, like, the... | ||
| The distraught feelings that we're having because our life's been turned upside down by a virus. | ||
| Then it's become, Trump's fault! | ||
| Trump's fault! | ||
| No, first of all, it's that lab in Wuhan or the wet market. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| That's whose fault it was. | ||
| Was it their fault that they didn't stop sooner? | ||
| Yeah, but a lot of people didn't know what the fuck was going on. | ||
| Was there bad mistakes made? | ||
| Yeah, but a lot of it's touch and go. | ||
| Did China do a wrong thing? | ||
| Yeah, they fucked up hard. | ||
| And you can't listen to them and you can't trust them. | ||
| Did the World Health Organization carry their water and have their back? | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| You can't trust them. | ||
| Who can you trust? | ||
| Who can you trust? | ||
| No one knew what the fuck this was. | ||
| That's the problem, though. | ||
| We live in a world and society where people don't know who to trust, so it's easier to just get on board somewhere ideologically for your own brain. | ||
| You know what we need? | ||
| We need like a news Snopes, but a good one. | ||
| Like something that breaks down the news and says, okay, is this true? | ||
| Here's why it isn't, and here's what we know. | ||
| Here's what we don't know, and here's where it gets confusing. | ||
| It's so much entertainment. | ||
| I was watching that interaction that Trump had with the reporter the other day. | ||
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| The Chinese lady? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| Chinese American. | ||
| The woman, yeah. | ||
| His interactions with the press are my least favorite. | ||
| And I was saying this before we started, if this was like a movie I was watching, I'd be rooting for the meteor. | ||
| There's no likable. | ||
| You know, the press thinks they're David and Goliath, but it's really like Goliath and Goliath, and all the people just desperately looking for truth are the little Davids out there trying to make sense of it. | ||
| But it's not... | ||
| There's no... | ||
| Everybody's so narcissistic. | ||
| There was that frickin' thing last night on... | ||
| Anderson Cooper had, you know, they had Greta on. | ||
| And then they talked to Greta, and then he manages to take precious time during the pandemic To talk about the fact that people on Twitter were giving him shit because they put Greta Thunberg on there as an expert. | ||
| I'm like, how do you guys manage to always fucking make the news about you? | ||
| There's so much shit going on in the world and you're worried that people called you out because, yeah, nothing says this isn't an overblown hoax. | ||
| Like there are people who think this is a hoax and there are people who think that it's a doomsday call, the pandemic. | ||
| And then the way that they're gonna calm people down is by putting grit on! | ||
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| Well did you see CNN had this thing where Rand Paul was talking to Dr. Fauci and then this is the title of the argument or the title of the article was something along the lines of Rand Paul says to to Dr. Fauci you're not the end all hear his response You know what it really said? | ||
| What he really said, he went over this, first of all, Rand Paul is a real doctor. | ||
| He's a doctor. | ||
| Second of all, he's had COVID. He survived it. | ||
| He looks like it. | ||
| He needs some vitamin D. He survived it, and he also survived it with a fucked up lung that he got when his neighbor attacked him and broke his ribs. | ||
| They had to remove a piece of his lung. | ||
| So this guy was in rough shape before he got COVID, and then was describing to Dr. Fauci his reservations about the advice that Fauci is given and then the direction that the current government is the way the way they're handling this in terms of like locking people down and making people stay at home and he had some reservations about that it wasn't simply like he like said some awful thing to Dr. Fauci like you're not the end-all he said basically with all due respect and | ||
| As much as I appreciate you or as much as I respect you, I don't think you're the end-all for this. | ||
| And then Dr. Fauci's response was, I am not the end-all for this. | ||
| And what I am is a biological virus scientist, or whatever the fuck he is. | ||
| I mean, he handled it well, too. | ||
| But you look at the title of the video. | ||
| It was so misleading. | ||
| The title from the video could have been Rand Paul and Dr. Fauci in an exchange on coronavirus. | ||
| Yeah, but that doesn't get clicks. | ||
| But you can't trust anybody who doesn't give you that. | ||
| Because that's what the thing really was. | ||
| So anybody who doesn't give you that is fucking with you. | ||
| They're pulling your strings. | ||
| But again, when the news became a business, it became a problem. | ||
| It was... | ||
| Now it's incentivized. | ||
| It's perverse incentives. | ||
| I know, but don't you think that if there was a place where you knew that didn't take place, there would be value in that? | ||
| In this crazy battleground of ideas. | ||
| I do, but there's no institutional support for it. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I think if someone did something like that on the internet, I really believe... | ||
| I don't agree again with everything Rand Paul says, but I do think... | ||
| What was the bill that didn't get passed? | ||
| Because these fucking... | ||
| The Patriot Act came up yesterday. | ||
| Parts of the Patriot Act came up for renewal. | ||
| And there was a... | ||
| Basically yesterday, wasn't a bill passed that... | ||
| It was an amendment and they were supposed to pass an amendment that was against the... | ||
| I think it's like internet searches without a warrant. | ||
| Yeah, so now they can search because Bernie and a bunch of other people didn't show up to vote. | ||
| Now they can search our searches without a warrant. | ||
| Yeah, Matt Taibbi tweeted about that. | ||
| Like, all the people that are pro-Bernie. | ||
| Like, look what he did. | ||
| Yeah, I... Obviously, that's not good. | ||
| I'm not happy with that. | ||
| But again, you're not hearing... | ||
| That stuff gets lost. | ||
| No, you don't hear people about it. | ||
| That's the shit that makes me want to, like, burn everything down. | ||
| Because our freedoms... | ||
| Those are the freedoms that are actually getting passed through. | ||
| And I think only, like, 14 Democrats voted... | ||
| Against it? | ||
| I don't... | ||
| How is that not a huge part of the news today? | ||
| Because people actually get fucking pissed off about stupid petty shit, because I think they can get their minds around it, and when it comes down to like, oh, they can now search your internet searches without a warrant, everyone's like, I can't deal with it. | ||
| Yeah, but Bill Maher told Rose McGowan in the 90s that he has a huge cock. | ||
| Why aren't we marching in the streets? | ||
| LAUGHTER Why? | ||
| I know there's so much data coming in. | ||
| There's so many things to think of. | ||
| Because we can't march in the streets as we're on lockdown. | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing. | ||
| I'm wondering what's going to happen in California. | ||
| I have a friend of mine that I respect very much and he sent me these messages today and he goes, they're going to fucking riot. | ||
| He goes, people are not going to tolerate California being locked down until August. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's people that are not going to just stand by while their families go hungry and there's no money coming in. | ||
| These bureaucrats and politicians don't understand what they're saying, what they're asking. | ||
| And he said they're going to riot. | ||
| I just feel like they're not in touch with people, the politicians. | ||
| I mean, they think that... | ||
| I hear online, they're like, oh, it's all these rich people who are mad and this doesn't affect them. | ||
| Who do you think I go to the beach with? | ||
| It's not... | ||
| It's the people who are living inland. | ||
| Rich people have pools. | ||
| They're not mixing with us plebs down at the beach. | ||
| I think it's plebs. | ||
| Plebs, I mean. | ||
| It is plebs, but I always say plebs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They work with politicians. | ||
| You know when you're around comics and you think you can say things because you're used to saying crazy shit around comics? | ||
| Like the craziest. | ||
| You ever do that when you're around people and you just drop a word that you probably shouldn't say and people are like, did she just say cunt? | ||
| You called her a dumb cunt? | ||
| And people just really fall apart like, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I say things that are purposely wrong for fun. | ||
| That's part of... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I won't do that around you. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not you. | ||
| I'm saying, you know, when you're around people that aren't comics and you slip up. | ||
| I do it all the time. | ||
| Well, that's how politicians are. | ||
| They're around politicians all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they're saying stupid shit that doesn't really resonate with people that are actually losing their livelihood. | ||
| That was like that one chick who, she's like responsible for the AB5 bill and she said to like fuck Elon Musk on Twitter. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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She's destroyed like... | |
| Livelihoods, long before the pandemic came along, she was fucking people up. | ||
| How was she fucking people up? | ||
| Because AB5 makes it impossible to be a freelance contractor, basically. | ||
| It was why freelance writers were trying to... | ||
| Get her to make revisions and now she has two more bills that are revising. | ||
| I'm like, when your bill is so bad that you need other bills to try and fix it, because she didn't think of all the consequences of this bill. | ||
| What is the bill? | ||
| AB5, it's a bill that makes it essentially... | ||
| It was supposed to make it so these gig workers had to become employees. | ||
| And theoretically, it's... | ||
| I mean, everyone says that it's because she's basically in the union's pocket. | ||
| So you either need to join a union or become an employee. | ||
| But most people in LA, myself included, are freelance. | ||
| So it made it so you can't do more than 32 freelance... | ||
| Pieces per month, for example. | ||
| And so people in California were losing their writing contracts because companies in D.C. and places in New York were like, we don't want to deal with this because we basically have to make you an employee. | ||
| Otherwise, we'll get a fine. | ||
| So you have to either make some. | ||
| It basically kills your ability to be a freelance worker. | ||
| Yeah, it's nuts if you haven't I'm not an expert on this my friend Kira Davis she's down She is like deep down the rabbit hole and She's been you know fighting for because it hurts like manicurists it hurts Anyone who's basically freelance anyone who gets anyone who gets a Why am I blanking on it? | ||
| What is it where you get like a freelance if you hired a designer and You know, up to a certain amount of money, you have to basically make them employee. | ||
| It's messed up. | ||
| What's my name? | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Was it like a 1099? | ||
| 1099. Yeah. | ||
| If so, and it's just like completely messed up. | ||
| So people have been yelling at Gavin through this whole thing about during the pandemic. | ||
| They're like, you have to overturn AB5 because now you're hurting people. | ||
| This bill is hurting people who can make money at a time where they can't even make money at all. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, I can't believe you. | ||
| There's too many things to know about. | ||
| I know, but AB5 is in California and it's fucked a lot of people up, in particular freelance, anything. | ||
| Photographers, writers, makeup artists, anyone who basically gets paid not by salary. | ||
| So do you think this is because... | ||
| The unions talk them into passing it this way? | ||
| It's something to do with the Uber driver, the rideshare drivers. | ||
| Because her argument is that it's to protect workers like Uber and Lyft drivers who the company can say, you're working a gig and we don't need to protect you at all or give you any kind of benefits or give you sick time or anything. | ||
| Or insurance or anything. | ||
| And so it forces you to either join a union, basically. | ||
| So her argument is that it's protecting vulnerable people from being exploited by these big corporations, which there has to be a way to do that without forcing everybody either to become an employee, because she's saying, basically, you can't work. | ||
| Like she said to me as a freelance writer, you cannot work You can't write more than 32 freelance pieces per month or you'll have to be employed by whoever you might be writing. | ||
| Now, if you're a freelance writer, some of my friends are cranking like a hundred of these things out. | ||
| It's how they make their living. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There are people who are much more educated on this than I am. | ||
| I know very little about it, because basically the way you protect yourself, if you're someone like me, who I get 1099 by everyone, I get 1099 by Patreon. | ||
| You have to incorporate. | ||
| So I have to become a corporation, but that costs $800 in California just to incorporate. | ||
| So not everybody has the money to become a corporation. | ||
| And that's the way that you could protect yourself from getting a fine. | ||
| Because if I made a certain amount of money or if I wrote a certain number of pieces, I would be fined for not having... | ||
| Either the person that works for me would be fine. | ||
| Again, I'm not exactly sure how it works because I had to just take measures and incorporate. | ||
| But not everybody can do that. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| That sounds like there was good intentions, but it just got fucked up. | ||
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| I wish that I could believe that, but just seeing the way she behaves, even when anyone calls her out, I mean, there's a whole website devoted to people who are telling stories of how I had three friends who were writers who had to leave California. | ||
| So people were leaving California before any of the pandemic because they couldn't make their living here anymore. | ||
| And this was her. | ||
| And it was because of her bill. | ||
| She totally fucked over all these people. | ||
| Single moms, like, people who are supposed to be the people that, in theory, she was protecting. | ||
| And there's a whole website with story after story after story. | ||
| What is her name? | ||
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Lorena... | |
| What's her last name? | ||
| Gonzalez. | ||
| Gonzalez. | ||
| But she's the one who went after Elon. | ||
| Just tweeting, fuck Elon Musk. | ||
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| Come on. | ||
| That's it? | ||
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That's your whole thing? | |
| But this is a politics. | ||
| Such a virtue-signaling move. | ||
| But, I mean, again, I can't... | ||
| We have a president who's tweeting... | ||
| You know, there's, like, no civility in politics anymore. | ||
| He provides jobs. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's one thing that Trump did that really eroded it, was his lack of civility, encouraged lack of civility among these young... | ||
| Politicians that are coming up, and that's when you get to see things like fuck Elon Musk. | ||
| Imagine if you saw a politician say that 10 years ago. | ||
| Oh my god, I can't believe it. | ||
| Every time I hear it, I still flinch. | ||
| It would be insane. | ||
| You wouldn't believe it was real. | ||
| How is that real? | ||
| Yeah, it's something that I wish got more attention, and it's definitely something that was turning people red before all of the pandemic and the lockdown. | ||
| When Tulsi Gabbard was on, she said fuck a couple of times, and I was like, she's running for president. | ||
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| No. | ||
| A lot of people were already kind of leaving because of this. | ||
| And when we're done, I'll find you the whole website. | ||
| Well, California's got real problems right now. | ||
| And especially, again, if these other states open up and they control everything and they do all right and they don't have massive deaths. | ||
| I mean, one thing that I have read is that Sweden did have a larger number of deaths than countries of a similar size. | ||
| Because there's just been this narrative that Sweden... | ||
| Oh, yeah, that they did it right. | ||
| They did it right. | ||
| But it's not true, though. | ||
| I think once you actually dig down into it, there's, again, more nuance to that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I read today, that it wasn't necessarily... | ||
| What Sweden did, they did because they thought it was the right thing for them. | ||
| That's a whole different way to live. | ||
| They live in little villages. | ||
| There's not that many of them. | ||
| It's not a giant ass fucking country like America. | ||
| The idea that you should have the same law for Idaho... | ||
| In Boise or in the fucking mountains as you have for New York City is bonkers. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You can't have that. | ||
| It is kind of interesting that the states get to choose how they handle this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's the way it should work. | ||
| It's supposed to work that way. | ||
| I'm actually glad to see that. | ||
| That's been the other weirdest part of this whole fucking clusterfuck that we've been talking about is watching the Trump is literally Hitler crowd. | ||
| For a while, they were all calling for him to institute martial law. | ||
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I'm like, You guys are crazy! | |
| The governor said that. | ||
| The governor said that today. | ||
| He was talking about martial law. | ||
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Why? | |
| Well, no, but they wanted Trump to institute federal martial law. | ||
| I'm like, you want the guy that you're saying is literally Hitler to take over the whole country and not let every state do what they're supposed to do? | ||
| Do you even hear yourselves? | ||
| Right, because they don't want people deciding in this state that they should be able to open up early. | ||
| It's... | ||
| What's up, Jamie? | ||
| I'm trying to understand it, so I didn't want to bring it up too fast. | ||
| But a federal judge just passed something that said Los Angeles has like a week to move all homeless people away from the vicinity of a freeway or underpass. | ||
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What? | |
| Oh, good. | ||
| It's unreasonably dangerous to allow people to live in areas that may be contaminated with lead and other toxins or that carry increased risk of being injured or killed in a car crash or earthquake. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That's why they're moving them? | ||
| No, they should move them because they're not supposed to be there. | ||
| What about the fact that they're like it's unreasonable to let them get typhoid. | ||
| He said he was compelled to intervene because neither the city or county appeared to be addressing this problem with any urgency. | ||
| No, they're not doing shit. | ||
| Look, Gavin Newsom, our governor, was the mayor of San Francisco. | ||
| Have you been to Venice since this? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because they made all the market... | ||
| You know how you go down to Venice and there would be all the booths? | ||
| Well, you can't do that and nobody's allowed out. | ||
| And it's like a tent city. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| Well, you know, they did an on-purpose tent city in Brentwood. | ||
| Oh, yeah, the big one by the veterans? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| They have American flags on their tents. | ||
| I'm like, did that come with the tent they gave you? | ||
| They're never going to move. | ||
| They're never going to move. | ||
| So if you're a person that's thinking about buying... | ||
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Those are nice tents. | |
| They're nice tents. | ||
| With American flags. | ||
| So if they're looking at that, and then they're, you know, if you're going to buy a house in Brentwood, like you invested all your money, you've saved, you finally were going to put our first money down on a home, honey, and then you look like... | ||
| On a $2.3 million 12... | ||
| 100 square foot overpriced. | ||
| We got good news and bad news. | ||
| The good news is we found a spot in Brentwood. | ||
| The bad news is it's three feet from the homeless shelter. | ||
| So you're gonna hear people do meth and fucking shoot heroin in the middle of the night. | ||
| I drove by that the other day. | ||
| I was shocked. | ||
| It's like around the whole park and in it. | ||
| Well, around the park are the people that don't want to follow the rules. | ||
| So inside the park, you have to social distance. | ||
| You have to keep your tent X amount of feet apart. | ||
| But outside, they're like, fuck you, man. | ||
| I'm over here. | ||
| I'm a rebel. | ||
| So there's people on the outside with their own tents. | ||
| So you've got the inside tent people that are the rule-following homeless people. | ||
| And then you get the outside tent people that don't give a fuck. | ||
| Just outside the park. | ||
| Yeah, just outside the park. | ||
| How about in San Francisco? | ||
| They put them in hotels and give them weed and booze. | ||
| I was joking that that seems like a good way to solve their housing crisis. | ||
| Just incentivize homelessness. | ||
| If you left, where would you go? | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| It's funny, because I've been thinking about leaving. | ||
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Everybody has been. | |
| Before everybody was thinking about leaving, and now that everybody has, I'm like, this is like when everyone's reading Harry Potter, and I'm like, no. | ||
| Well, it sounds like that bill was the first alarm, right? | ||
| There have been a couple alarms. | ||
| I mean, for me, I'm not wealthy, and I can't get ahead. | ||
| I want a house. | ||
| I was looking at Arizona, actually. | ||
| Arizona's great. | ||
| Yeah, and I was looking around there, and it's close enough to... | ||
| I like Tucson. | ||
| You know, it's hot as fuck, but Prescott is interesting. | ||
| It's much cooler there, but it's like a retirement community from what I can tell. | ||
| What about Sedona? | ||
| A lot of hippies there? | ||
| A lot of hippies. | ||
| I'm going to start a cult. | ||
| Sedona's a spot for you. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Just start talking about channeling and energy. | ||
| I was thinking about Texas, you know, like everybody. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Everybody's thinking about Texas. | ||
| Because they're wild and free. | ||
| For now, until everybody moves there and votes like a lib. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what they did in Nevada, you know. | ||
| Nevada's governor is a Democrat. | ||
| So you're thinking about Texas? | ||
| I thought about Texas. | ||
| Are you really going to go? | ||
| I'm going to go somewhere. | ||
| I don't know if the comedy store is going to exist. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's been shut down for months and it might continue to be shut down. | ||
| We don't know when they're going to be able to have a live show again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What if it's 2021? | ||
| What if it's somewhere around like April of next year? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if it's not making money, that spot would be very hard if you owned it not to just be like, all right, it's going to be a high rise. | ||
| Listen, this whole world right now, I'm saying listen like I know, but the whole world in a year from now is going to be unrecognizable. | ||
| The whole world. | ||
| This kind of a disruption of the economy is unprecedented. | ||
| We've never had it worldwide. | ||
| No one's ever had it. | ||
| It's not like things are just going to start back up again. | ||
| People that would work forever are starting from scratch. | ||
| This is what's so frustrating to people because politicians, for the most part, are not people that are successful business people. | ||
| They're politicians. | ||
| Yeah, especially the lifetimers. | ||
| And they're getting to dictate how professional businesses operate and run and what they need to stay open and what they need to stay alive. | ||
| And their solution to everything is we'll send them money. | ||
| But in the funds, did you see Pelosi's fund? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They put in a bunch of like... | ||
| Provisions for women who own cannabis businesses and shit. | ||
| It's like a social justice warrior's dream. | ||
| I feel like, again, I hate to be both sides, girl, but I think that's a bit of a grab bag for everybody. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And that's how it always is. | ||
| With politicians, right? | ||
| Yeah, with the bailouts. | ||
| I'm so like, no bailouts. | ||
| Fuck all these people. | ||
| Especially the cruise ships. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| They're not even American. | ||
| I know! | ||
| They're not even supposed to be here. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| I know. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| That's where we put the homeless people. | ||
| Put them on the cruise ships. | ||
| We're talking about that because the amount of money that it cost a week, it's like $100 a week to be on a cruise ship. | ||
| That's less than $25 a day. | ||
| But that's where they all get it, I think. | ||
| Of course, but they'll be fine. | ||
| They'll be like prisoners. | ||
| Will they get it, but everybody's asymptomatic? | ||
| Every time the cruise ship stuff comes up, I think about Bill Burr's routine. | ||
| Oh, he has a routine on cruise ships? | ||
| Yeah, he does a whole thing about it. | ||
| That's how he's going to thin out the population if he's a dictator. | ||
| Which special is this on? | ||
| It's on... | ||
| The most recent one? | ||
| Walk Your Way Out, I think. | ||
| No, not the most recent one. | ||
| It's the one in between. | ||
| The Nashville one? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'll have to watch that one. | ||
| That's the one I haven't seen. | ||
| It is so... | ||
| I saw the black and white one and I saw the Paper Tiger one. | ||
| It's excellent. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| The black and white one's my favorite. | ||
| That's probably... | ||
| That's my favorite. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Paper Tiger's really good, too. | ||
| The new Paper Tiger one's very good. | ||
| I was listening to it. | ||
| I was watching it. | ||
| I don't know if I saw the whole thing. | ||
| And then one day I was in my room and my roommate was watching it and all I heard was screaming for like 25 minutes. | ||
| And I was like, what are you watching? | ||
| She's like, Bill Burr. | ||
| I was like, oh, wow. | ||
| He got angry this special. | ||
| I don't remember him being so mad. | ||
| I thought she was watching just something. | ||
| Was she screaming laughing? | ||
| No, he was screaming. | ||
| All I heard was screaming from the television. | ||
| I'm like, what are you watching? | ||
| Oh, I thought it was her. | ||
| She was screaming at him. | ||
| Yeah, it was funny. | ||
| It was really... | ||
| That's a good idea, though, but homeless people on the cruise ships would really solve the problem. | ||
| Because it costs, Jamie and I were talking about it with Tim Dillon, but it costs like $105 for a week. | ||
| Like, you can't eat for $105 for a week, right? | ||
| If you only got $100 a week for food, you'd be kind of fucked. | ||
| Like, goddammit. | ||
| You know, if you want to eat healthy, you'd have to go to McDonald's. | ||
| Like, that's, like, $10 a day is $70 for the week. | ||
| Imagine living on $10 a day for food. | ||
| You'd have to eat fast food. | ||
| Or really good food. | ||
| But even if you ate steak and fish. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's more than $10 a day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, if you're eating healthy. | ||
| Carnival Cruise. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| $105. | ||
| I loved him. | ||
| Four nights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, that's not bad. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Were we looking at a carnival one before? | ||
| Maybe we should do a stand-up show on a cruise. | ||
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Will they allow us on there? | |
| Are they up and running? | ||
| They are up and running. | ||
| No, this is for September, it says. | ||
| But in September they are. | ||
| What if we take all of stand-up comedy to the cruise lines? | ||
| Why do that when you can go to Texas? | ||
| What are you going to do in Texas? | ||
| The comedy clubs are open. | ||
| Houston Comedy Club, Houston Improv's open. | ||
| Brad Callen's there next weekend. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| He's there, yeah, like what is today's date? | ||
| I think Callen's there in two weeks. | ||
| All of that angsty energy for me has been going, I've just been pouring it into like my, it's basically me yelling in my garage. | ||
| My neighbors must think I'm insane. | ||
| In Dumpster Fire, but it's not the same. | ||
| You know, I have two... | ||
| My roommate, Samantha, and my cousin. | ||
| That's my audience. | ||
| And I just am like, ah! | ||
| Well, and then people... | ||
| Sold out. | ||
| Of course it sold out. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| I mean, this is the difference. | ||
| This is the thing that could make me... | ||
| Move. | ||
| What? | ||
| Stand up? | ||
| Being able to go do things. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| My friend in Austin, Adam Curry, he texted me. | ||
| He goes, I went to a restaurant. | ||
| It was like, wow. | ||
| He was telling me about it. | ||
| But he did it weeks ago. | ||
| Texas, it was like two weekends ago, he went to a restaurant. | ||
| Texas is, yeah. | ||
| There's a great book that I was reading. | ||
| It was all about the genius of the Texas Constitution and why no matter how many people from and I'm not exactly sure why. | ||
| So don't even ask me to explain it. | ||
| But I should find the book. | ||
| It's basically like their Constitution is so good. | ||
| You couldn't become California, even if everybody in California moved there. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I have to find this book. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I'm just not that smart. | ||
| Well, they were a republic, right? | ||
| They were a unit that could actually secede from the union. | ||
| They weren't the same as a state. | ||
| They fucking might at this rate. | ||
| They might. | ||
| It might be worth it for them. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| This... | ||
| This fucking thing is so weird. | ||
| Like, the world is a different place than it was in January. | ||
| January rolled around, you had one idea of the world, and here we are in May, and it's a different world. | ||
| That's never happened before. | ||
| Without some sort of a monstrous... | ||
| I mean, it has, I think. | ||
| ...terrestrial event or war. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Other than that, what's ever happened like this? | ||
| Where everybody got shut down financially? | ||
| Yeah, that's what's... | ||
| The positive side of things, I think, is that businesses will start again. | ||
| Hopefully people will get through this. | ||
| They'll be resilient. | ||
| I think people are. | ||
| And I think also people will understand that it can go away. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so we'll be much more hesitant to give up the reins like we did this time. | ||
| I was out on Mother's Day and it was basically in Brentwood and it was like everyone was out. | ||
| There's traffic again. | ||
| Yeah, people are driving around. | ||
| They're not following the rules. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But we'll be much more hesitant to give up the reins to this irresponsible government. | ||
| They didn't know what they were doing and they pretended they did. | ||
| And once they had an idea and they were implementing that idea, they refused to be flexible. | ||
| And they changed the goalposts. | ||
| Is Elon actually leaving? | ||
| He's thinking about leaving. | ||
| He doesn't know what to do. | ||
| Well, he opened up his plant. | ||
| He's like, fuck you, arrest me. | ||
| And they're like, oh, just kind of open up. | ||
| They're not doing shit about it. | ||
| That was like the cops on the beach. | ||
| They were like, please leave the beach. | ||
| And everyone was like, fuck you. | ||
| Elon Musk has a goddamn bullhorn, though. | ||
| And also, he's right. | ||
| He's talking about the statistical numbers. | ||
| This is not what you said it was going to be. | ||
| This is why everything shut down, because you were worried it was going to be far more fatal than it is. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not that bad, regardless of treatments. | ||
| I mean, it's terrible for people who get it when their body goes bad, but it's not as big of a pandemic as we were all worried about. | ||
| As horrible as that sounds for anybody who lost anybody. | ||
| No, I mean, that's the thing, too. | ||
| I have friends who are nurses and on the front lines, and it's a very, you know, because we're not exposed to it, it's a very different experience. | ||
| It's almost like you live in two different worlds. | ||
| Two different worlds. | ||
| They're in a war. | ||
| Yeah, and they leave and we're all like, tra-la-la, why can't we open up? | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| And they're like, fuck you. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| And then there's people that are also in hospitals where they're being furloughed because they can't work because there's no one there and the hospitals are going bankrupt. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's a clusterfuck. | ||
| It's a clusterfuck. | ||
| We have no solutions. | ||
| But we did talk shit for four hours. | ||
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Woo! | |
| It was like three hours and 20 minutes, right? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Marathon. | ||
| We just flow. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It was fun, though. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm glad. | ||
| I'm glad we got you in here, and we need to do this more often. | ||
| Well, sometimes I'm one of the only guests that can come now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there's... | ||
| People in California are still... | ||
| I think we're going to be able to... | ||
| We're going to be alright. | ||
| We're going to be okay, Bridget. | ||
| Dumpster fire. | ||
| Dumpster fire on YouTube. | ||
| Your audience will like it. | ||
| They'll love it. | ||
| They'll love it. | ||
| Walk-ins welcome podcast. | ||
| And your Instagram and Twitter. | ||
| And at Bridget Phetasy everywhere. | ||
| Spell it. | ||
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B-R-I-D-G-E-T-P-H-E-T-A-S-Y. Always a pleasure, Bridget. | |
| Thank you for having me. | ||
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So fun. | |
| My pleasure. |
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