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April 2, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1452 - Greg Fitzsimmons
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joe rogan
Gregory, how are you holding it up?
greg fitzsimmons
I am holding it up.
Although, not as much as I would like to be holding it up.
I think that's a lot.
People are talking about all the different constraints of this pandemic.
Masturbation has gone by the wayside for a lot of people.
If you live in a two-bedroom apartment and you've got two kids, you know...
joe rogan
You're going to have to jerk off while you're shitting It's the only time you have That's a lot of toilet paper you're wasting.
Bring your phone in there with you.
Set up some U-Porn on the ledge.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
greg fitzsimmons
And you gotta land it just right.
You gotta let it squirt and then come down between your legs into the water.
joe rogan
You gotta point down.
You gotta hurt yourself.
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta go overhand.
joe rogan
Yeah, like you're going deep into third gear.
greg fitzsimmons
I gotta hurst.
unidentified
Hurst!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's the thing is like, and I've never been a shower guy.
And especially now that I'm, I'll be 54 on Wednesday.
unidentified
You're a bath guy?
greg fitzsimmons
I'm a bath guy.
unidentified
No, I meant for jerking off.
greg fitzsimmons
I remember jerking off in the bath once and it just floated.
joe rogan
It's fucking egg drunk too.
greg fitzsimmons
It floated around.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
greg fitzsimmons
Who order egg drop chism?
joe rogan
It's fucking floating.
greg fitzsimmons
What?
joe rogan
It's cooking, right?
greg fitzsimmons
I remember once, I was at my brother-in-law's apartment in New York.
He lives in New York City, and we played midnight hockey in Central Park.
He played in this league, and you go out, and it was fucking February.
We went out, it was like 20 degrees out, and we played hockey for an hour and a half in Central Park.
You know, they have rinks out there.
Right.
And we come back, and I was out of shape, but this guy's like a hockey fanatic, so I wanted to do it.
So I come back, and I was like, I gotta take a bath.
So I go into the bath, and they're fucking slobs.
It's three brothers living together in an apartment.
So I go in the bathroom, and...
I fill it up.
I get in, and I'm laying there, and I'm fucking chilling out.
I'm like, oh, this feels so good.
And then I see this egg drop soup, and I realize, like, they all jerk off in the shower.
And it was just floating!
And I was like, ah!
And I just, like, jumped up.
unidentified
Fucking showered for like 45 minutes.
joe rogan
It's so weird that we're more terrified of jizz than virtually any other body part.
Like if I had a choice between a guy jizzing on my pants or peeing on my pants, I'd say peeing all day.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah!
joe rogan
Right?
greg fitzsimmons
Absolutely.
joe rogan
But isn't that hilarious?
Isn't that weird?
It's like we've decided that one fluid coming out of the dick is associated with pleasure, male pleasure, dirty men trying to cum.
unidentified
Like, to have that on you is like, he got you!
joe rogan
That guy got you with his seed!
unidentified
Yeah!
Right, right.
greg fitzsimmons
He owns you.
joe rogan
Pee, you're just an idiot.
Why are you peeing on me, man?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, my friends have peed on me.
It's happened.
You know?
joe rogan
If you're out in the woods.
greg fitzsimmons
We were out in the woods and we were at a fort.
We had this fort when we were teenagers.
We were like 13 and we were already drinking and smoking a lot of pot when we were like 13. And we were in this fort and we all got shit-faced and then my friend just pulled his dick out and he started peeing on all of us.
And I remember having to go home that night.
Like, my genes were drenched in piss.
It wasn't even mine.
Of course, my mother thought it was me.
joe rogan
That really is the difference between men and women.
Girls don't go out and pee on each other, do they?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
They rarely go in the woods by themselves anyway.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Just a group of girls in the woods, that's a horror movie.
You're not supposed to do that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
A group of guys in the woods, that's normal shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
A group of girls in the woods is like, what are you girls doing on here?
Do you have a gun?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't just be in the woods.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that the woods make everything scarier?
Everything.
greg fitzsimmons
It's like where all the grim fairy tales start, right?
joe rogan
Well, it's all where wolves would eat people in the woods.
That's what it was.
That's where all the Little Red Riding Hood...
We don't have to deal with that anymore.
So we kind of forgot what can happen.
Wolves don't play by any rules.
They'll eat your kids.
For sure.
And people used to have to deal with that until they wiped them out.
I'm not an anti-wolf guy.
Don't get me wrong.
But that's what those fears are all about.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Going through the woods at night and monsters are hiding and they're trying to get you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything's scarier in the woods.
We've escaped the woods.
We've got some nice hard surfaces and some street lights.
I feel pretty good about it.
I feel like we're fucking holding our ground here.
But every now and then a coyote will run across Burbank Boulevard.
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Every now and then a coyote is on Olive Street.
Just looking around, trying to see what kind of action you can get in this part of town.
Those fucking creeps.
greg fitzsimmons
It's like the Roadrunner.
It's like, yeah, the fucking coyote, man.
Watch out.
He's got some Acme shit.
joe rogan
Except in the Roadrunner, the coyote never wins.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
In real life, they always win.
greg fitzsimmons
Of course.
joe rogan
They win every time.
They beat me.
They killed all my chickens, dude.
All of them.
They got them all.
greg fitzsimmons
This was here?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You had fencing?
joe rogan
Yes, they got in.
They broke into the chicken coop.
They killed nine chickens.
The last remaining nine chickens.
They plucked them off one at a time.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah, with help from my dog at one point in time.
My Mastiff became friends with a coyote.
And he's way bigger than them.
So they used him to break into the chicken coop.
So he broke into the chicken coop and the coyotes got in the chicken coop with the dog.
Like they literally tricked the dog into breaking into the chicken coop.
greg fitzsimmons
I wonder if the Mastiff got shit from other Mastiffs.
Like, dude, you're friends with Coyotes?
joe rogan
Well, you know, he just got tricked.
He thought they were dogs.
He thought they were his friends.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And my other dog's kind of an asshole, and they don't get along that good.
They're both gone now, unfortunately.
They're 13. Yeah.
They both passed.
And 13 is exceptionally old for a Mastiff, too.
He was really hurting at the end.
But he was the best dog.
But he just wanted to be friends with the Coyote.
The Coyote's like, hey man, let's kill these fucking chickens.
He's like, yeah!
Let's kill the chickens!
greg fitzsimmons
That's hilarious.
Peer pressure from the coyotes.
joe rogan
The thing that happens with chickens where they'll be convinced that they have laid a viable egg, like they've been bred with, it's kind of sad, really.
And they'll sit on an egg.
And they pluck all their feathers out and nothing ever happens.
No egg ever comes and turns into a chick because they're not being impregnated by roosters.
Which, by the way, I didn't know until I was 40. And I was like, oh yeah, of course, duh.
I didn't know that until I was 40. Anyway, you have to take them out of the regular population and put them in a smaller coop where they have to sit up on their feet.
And you do it for a few days and they get over it.
If you don't, They'll continue to pull their feathers out for like a whole cycle, and they'll do it for like 28, 30 days.
It's not good for them.
They're pecking at their skin and shit, so you have to separate them.
So when we separate them, we put them in a smaller coop, a little small one where it has to sit up for a couple days.
And the dog just smashed that.
I mean, he's 140 pounds of solid muscle and bone.
The sweetest dog of all time, Mastiffs.
They're so sweet.
He didn't want to hurt a fly, but this coyote was his buddy, and he was like, yeah, what a great idea.
So he smashes this little chicken coop, and then the coyote, we're playing like fucking Clue or something.
Me and my family are sitting around playing some board game, and we look up, I go, A fucking coyote's got a chicken!
So the coyote's running through the backyard with the chicken in its mouth.
And I see it.
They had a fence in the backyard where the coyote jumped over that was about...
Five feet?
Five feet?
Five inches maybe?
Something like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That coyote went like this.
unidentified
Da-ding!
joe rogan
Like it was nothing.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
You can't believe how agile they are.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, their back legs are like springs.
joe rogan
With a chicken in its mouth, dude.
I mean, it leaped up into the air, touched the top of the five foot thing like it was nothing.
And then bounced right over it and landed on the ground so gracefully.
I had to admire it.
I know it just killed my chicken, but I'm like, whoa, look at that thing.
But dude, when you have kids and you see those fucking things, you just go, wait, what is stopping that from eating a baby?
Nothing!
Nothing's stopping that from eating a baby.
You leave a baby in the yard, a coyote will steal it and jump over the fence with it.
Understand that.
Fortunately, human beings don't leave their fucking babies by themselves.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if you did...
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, we were in South Africa one time, and we were taking a hike down to the Cape of Good Hope, which is like the point.
It's like the western point of Africa.
And they have baboons there.
It's like a baboon fucking forest.
And so we're like, there's a park ranger there, and we're like, should we be scared?
And he's like, you guys are fine, but if you put your...
My son at the time was about three or four.
He's like, if you put him down, they're going to take him.
Just like that, we're like, fuck!
joe rogan
Could you imagine watching your baby get snatched by...
A baboon.
Which is like a dog monkey.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
They're the weirdest ones.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they kind of have like a dog face almost.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Giant canines.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Do you know they're so smart that they train dogs?
greg fitzsimmons
Baboons do?
joe rogan
Baboons train dogs.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
They steal puppies.
They bring the puppies into their little camp and they feed them.
And that way the puppy barks whenever anything's coming near so they can go to sleep.
unidentified
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Dude.
And they eat babies.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Damn!
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
It's crazy video, too.
You see these baboons dragging these puppies by their tail.
Just dragging them.
And then the puppy tries to get away.
Sit the fuck down.
Just put them in the puppy, doesn't know what to do.
The puppy's yiping.
They give him some food.
Bro, they're like little demons.
They're trained dogs.
greg fitzsimmons
They're strong as shit, too.
joe rogan
They're super strong.
There's a really, really interesting guy out of Stanford, Professor Robert Sapolsky.
And we were really fortunate enough to get him to talk on the podcast about a bunch of different things, one of them being parasites that control behavior of certain animals and cats and stuff called toxoplasmosis.
But another thing is that he studied baboons.
For like a long time, like years, he studied the same pack.
He would go back to Africa and study these same baboons over and over again.
And while he was studying them, there was a case where a really crazy thing had happened where poison food had gotten into the dump.
And these baboons had eaten the poison food.
And because the alphas always ate first, they got the poison food and they died off.
And something like that, I hope I'm not fucking this up, but there was some sort of a shift because of eating poisoned food where the really aggressive males were gone.
And then the males just started like grooming each other and hanging out.
It was like the hairstylists, one.
I mean, it's really crazy.
It's like the baboons who are more chill.
Like, hey, man, we don't have to kill babies.
Let's just go raid the dumpsters.
Those baboons survived.
And then the crazy thing is many generations later, that same behavior, the shift in behavior was still observed.
There wasn't so much, like, super aggressive, angry, tooth-and-claw males that are dominating everyone else.
It was more like cooperation and working with each other.
Yeah, it's crazy shit.
I know I'm butchering it, so apologies to Professor Sapolsky.
He's amazing.
unidentified
His stuff about this guy Sapolsky is— So maybe there's something to this Me Too movement.
greg fitzsimmons
We castrate all aggressive men.
joe rogan
Well, I have a bit where I talk about hyenas and matriarchal animal societies.
Hyenas, the females, are particularly vicious.
I don't want to do the bit, but one of the reasons why they're vicious is because the men are bitches.
They're all, hee hee, and they're running away, and there's lions everywhere.
They can't be strong.
So the females got more powerful, and they took over the society.
That happens in all sorts of ecosystems.
We have this idea that the males have to dominate, because we dominate now.
In nature, we are not a single-celled organism, right?
We're not a primate that has hair all over its body anymore.
We're some new thing.
Well, we became this new thing because we adapted, right?
Something happened, there was natural selection, there was random mutations, and then boom, human being in 2020. But that doesn't mean this is the same thing as a human being in 3,020, or 4,020, or 10,020.
We might be turning into a totally different thing, and it seems like we are to me.
I mean, if you just look at the difference between, like this, this dope-ass chimpanzee skull that...
This dude made for me, man.
Shane Against the Machine on Instagram.
He made that army helmet head, too.
But the point is, this thing is fucking way stronger than us.
This thing is like, it might look kind of like us, but it would tear us to pieces.
Even if it's close to the same weight as us, it's so impossibly strong.
You can't even imagine it.
So we're not that anymore.
Something happened.
Something happened, right?
We stopped being this ridiculously strong, murderous omnivore.
And we became a human being, which seems to be way more calm, except in big bursts of rage.
Mass shootings.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it's like in that book, Sapien, when we went from being Neanderthal to Homo Sapien, that they existed at the same time.
joe rogan
Yes, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And that actually Neanderthal is way stronger, way faster, bigger.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bigger brain, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Did it have a bigger brain?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think.
greg fitzsimmons
Is that true?
I thought the Sapiens— I thought that's true.
I thought Homo Sapiens out-thunk— Out-thought?
Out-thunk?
joe rogan
I think they think they did, because I think they think that the larger brain, if I remember correctly, was connected to the mass of the bodies.
The bodies are very massive.
They were like, my height, it was like a really tall male, like 5'8".
Neanderthal brains, bigger, not necessarily better, but they were like 210 pounds.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were just built different than us.
greg fitzsimmons
And not tall, right?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They were short, wide, thick-ass, fucking crazy thick bones.
Like, their bone structure was very dense.
They had, like, real, like, the difference between human, like, homo sapien bones and Neanderthal bones.
You look at them like, damn, these motherfuckers were sturdy.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
You know?
You could see it.
greg fitzsimmons
Does it have something to do with that the Homo sapiens were able to get into trees and get into places where they could escape?
joe rogan
See, in those images right there, they look pretty similar, other than the shape of the head.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and the hips are lower.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the bones don't look too much, well, it's shorter, but the bones don't look too much bigger.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I had seen something where it was talking about the mass of the bones, that they were larger, different proportions than Homo sapiens.
It's just crazy that there's been a bunch of different kinds of people, man.
Once you really wrap your head around that, what are those ones in Russia that are still trying to figure out?
The Denisovans?
Oh, yeah.
And then there's a few of them.
The Homo floriensis, that little hobbit man that lived in the island of Flores.
Those are human.
That's a weird little human being.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Dude, there's been a bunch of us.
greg fitzsimmons
No, it's true.
If you think about, you know, God willing, this species goes forward, as far as you say, 10,000.
I mean, can you imagine in the year 10,000?
It's almost like when you look at all those movies like E.T. or any of those...
It's always a bigger head, a smaller body, and big fingers, because it's just a fucking keyboard.
I mean, you think about it, when E.T. was made, there wasn't even really computers being used on a regular basis at that point, but they sort of figured out that's what it's going to be.
joe rogan
Do you remember that Matthew Broderick movie, War Games?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Do you want to play a game?
It was like in a computer console.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, right, right, right, yeah.
joe rogan
Dermonuclear War.
Yeah.
He played Dermonuclear War with a computer.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember, that's what people thought.
Like, oh my god, computers are going to take over.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were kind of right.
They just didn't see it coming like this.
greg fitzsimmons
What do you mean, kind of?
You don't think they're...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
They're definitely right.
I just...
It's not like computers are starting nuclear wars and tricking society.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
But once they do...
Once they realize how fucked up our priorities are, you know, once computers...
One thing you have to say about, though, this coronavirus thing, this is a good example of people who are at least...
Like, the compliance of the country, the total compliance, it's not perfect, but it's pretty fucking incredible.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Pretty fucking incredible.
You got the whole country to shut down for a month for a virus and just kind of hang out and just no one goes anywhere.
You go to the supermarket, minimal movement, you know, just chill.
greg fitzsimmons
Couple states are holding out.
joe rogan
Couple states.
greg fitzsimmons
I think Mississippi is like, fuck it, we gonna keep on living the way we do.
joe rogan
I think it was Alabama.
I think Alabama, there, there, is that, see if it's Alabama was the quote that said, we're not California.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You realize what we represent to the Deep South?
We are the fucking annoying, like, the little snowflake state.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
Meanwhile, we're not at all.
There's a lot of tough people.
California's got a lot of right-wingers also.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
A lot.
Alabama governor refuses to issue shelter-in-place order.
We are not California.
Look at her.
God bless her heart.
greg fitzsimmons
She's 80 years old.
joe rogan
Bless her heart.
It's all COVID-19.
Kay Ivey said during a news conference on Thursday she would not issue a shelter-in-place order that 21 other states have enacted to prevent further spread of COVID-19.
Y'all, we are not Louisiana.
We are not New York State.
We are not California.
Oh, okay.
You've got to publish that whole statement.
You gotta publish that whole statement.
You can't just say, we are not California.
See, that's a little sneaky.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a little sneaky.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
But I get it because you can't have the whole thing in a title of a story, right?
greg fitzsimmons
No, everything's clickbait.
joe rogan
But that's a good clickbait.
We are not California.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But we are not Louisiana.
Not so clickbait, is it?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
That's like, what are you saying?
You're not Louisiana.
What the fuck does that mean?
greg fitzsimmons
It's so funny that the South has these—and it goes back to the Civil War.
I mean, the statewide identity is so powerful.
You think about how Texans think of themselves.
They are Texans before they are Americans.
unidentified
Oh, yeah!
greg fitzsimmons
And it's like that in most Southern states.
And it's like, you know, that's what the fucking war was fought about.
joe rogan
But it's Texas more than any of the other ones now.
Texas is a totally different country.
I'm 100% on board with that.
It's a different country.
It's Texas.
greg fitzsimmons
They got their own economy.
joe rogan
They're a republic too.
For the longest time, they could have bailed.
They're the ones who had to fight off the Comanches, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
When I read this book, what is the Guinn novel?
Empire of the Summer Moon.
This Native American book I read.
I actually listened to it on audio, I don't want to lie.
But it's amazing.
And it's all about the Comanches and the Comanche Indians.
The Texas Rangers, which were created to try to combat the Comanches.
This guy moved to Texas and started reading up on the history of American Indian and settler combat and all the different crazy shit that went on during those days.
And he's like, what in the fuck?
These Comanches just ran this place for hundreds of years.
They were like the first ones to figure out horseback.
That was Texas.
So the Texas Rangers were the first successful guys against the Comanche.
And they basically fought like the Comanche.
They fought on horseback.
They didn't dress like regular soldiers.
They grew their hair out long.
They're just savages.
And they were our savages.
And they went out and fought the savages at the savage game.
And that's like what established Texas.
That's a deeply rooted independent place.
Like, hey, fuck you.
We carved this fucking place out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Dude, there's a book.
I just finished this book about that exact time.
It was about the Rangers when they first went down into Mexico because it's a book by Cormac McCarthy called Blood Meridian.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I've heard about that book.
unidentified
What the fuck?
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, it's about these Texas Rangers, they go into Mexico, and they get paid per scalp.
So it's just detailing, and it's based on a true story.
It's about this group that goes down in there, and they lose it.
It's like Heart of Darkness.
They go down there, or, you know, Apocalypse Now.
They go down there, and they start going after...
Tribes that are attacking Americans.
And then eventually they realize they're just making money per scalps.
They go after fucking peaceful societies, kids, fucking...
And they would just...
They would go in and they would pick up babies and smash them against rocks.
I mean, everything is detailed about how it really was.
And Cormac McCarthy, like, dude, that guy can fucking write.
Goddamn.
joe rogan
That wasn't that long ago.
greg fitzsimmons
No, this was the 1860s.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's really close.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you think about the difference between life now and then, But again, you know, look at what's going on with the cartels in Mexico.
I mean, there's giant swats of Mexico just totally controlled by the cartels.
If you're a person who lives in that town, like...
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shit out of luck.
No one's going to come rescue you.
No one's going to help you.
greg fitzsimmons
Now, there's no government.
There's no police.
unidentified
Right there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
You want to talk about fucking heroic people.
How about guys that will stay in the local police and try to fight against these cartels?
Journalists in Mexico that'll write about the cartels.
That's a death sentence.
And then you think about these immigrants that are coming to this country.
It's like, you know, there was a time where we really did honor the idea that if you were a refugee from a war-torn country whose life was in danger, that was a reason to get into this country.
And it's very hard for them to figure out at the border who's who and who's telling what story.
But, you know, you go to a lot of places in, you know, El Salvador, Nicaragua.
I mean, they are literally fleeing for their lives when they leave their towns.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's right next door.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
We got this weird idea that that's far enough away.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
I know.
joe rogan
It's real weird.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because in a lot of ways, it's like any disaster that can happen.
You know, you almost should have saw it coming.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, almost every crazy disaster, like, you almost should have saw it coming.
Like, why are they still building houses that get torn apart by hurricanes?
Isn't it possible to build a house that doesn't get torn apart by hurricanes?
Yeah, but economically, it's not really wise.
It's, like, it's too hard.
When you see houses getting torn apart by hurricanes, like, you get it.
It's a resource issue.
But part of you is like, man, as human beings, we know how to make houses that survive hurricanes.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Don't we?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They make some hurricane-proof houses, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why don't they retrofit houses for hurricanes?
I get it.
It'd be super expensive.
But when you see the amount of money that they have now with this stimulus package...
I hate to say it, but it does bring forth a lot of the ideas that people like Bernie Sanders talk about.
Where it's like you've got all this money to help people when the shit hits the fan.
But why didn't you have all this money to help people get out of a bad situation?
Why didn't you have all this money to help stimulate inner cities that are economically depressed?
Why does it have to wait until the entire country has shut down for a month?
That you realize, we gotta give these people some fucking money.
Like, where's this money coming from, man?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
What have you been doing with it?
greg fitzsimmons
It's almost like on a micro level, you can look at your own family for a lot of people.
Like I know with me, it's like I'm on the road more than I probably want to be sometimes because I'm always like, I got a kid in college, I got to save money.
And now that I'm not working at all for possibly a long fucking time, and comedians, we're going to be one of the last people back in the workforce because it's going to demand that people trust getting back into groups again.
joe rogan
I refuse to let you call it the workforce, us being a part of the workforce.
I fucking refuse.
I'm thinking of people out there working in kitchens and fucking carrying big garbage bags out to the dumpster.
greg fitzsimmons
You don't bring a lunch pail and punch in when you get the funny bone?
joe rogan
People are doing things they don't want to do for money.
You are the ones in the workforce, and thank you.
greg fitzsimmons
No, but just in terms of money, I think about like, I'm fine.
We're tightening up, keeping it simple.
And I'm realizing, in a way, as far as my family goes, never been happier with my family.
Never felt closer.
We're having amazing memories.
We do yoga as a family every other night.
We have dinners.
We take turns cooking it.
We did fucking jigsaw puzzles.
It's amazing.
And I wouldn't be doing that right now if there wasn't a goddamn pandemic going on.
joe rogan
That's true, right?
It's like a little bit of a reset in terms of the time that you have and what's worth what to you.
What is it?
What do you want?
Do you want a bigger house?
Do you want more property?
Do you want more this?
Or do you want more happiness?
Because for a lot of people, you keep chasing more and more money, but it's not necessarily making you happier.
Because you're just doing it for the money.
It's not like money that came along while you're doing what you loved.
And so for a lot of us, when you're chasing things, Like, why are you doing it?
And sometimes you stop.
Or you're forced to stop.
Like, we're forced to stop.
And then you go, why?
Am I just living on momentum?
Did I never assess whether or not it's smart to be flying all the time?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And always tired from it?
Coming in on Sunday just fucking exhausted all the time instead of just waking up?
Like, now I'm just waking up.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird?
And I'm like, oh, no jet lag.
Look, I just wake up.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You wake up and I'm like, look, I'm awake.
greg fitzsimmons
It is so weird after 30 years of doing stand-up to not fucking go out at all.
I mean, I've never gone...
I don't think I've ever gone more than two or three weeks without doing stand-up.
And really, I rarely, rarely do less than four nights a week.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And to not do it at all now for two weeks straight, three weeks straight, whatever it's been.
joe rogan
What's the longest you've ever done where you didn't do it before?
greg fitzsimmons
I would say probably three to four weeks.
joe rogan
I remember the first time I took a big break, I had knee surgery.
I had my ACL reconstructed.
My left knee, the first one I ever got.
And I was two weeks out.
No stand-up for two weeks.
Then I finally did it on crutches.
I'm like, I am doing fucking stand-up.
I'm getting up there.
With crutches on, I did stand-up.
I was like, I'm not stopping.
This is ridiculous.
Two weeks was too much.
I was freaking out.
Because I wasn't that good back then either.
So two weeks is like...
That was probably like 91 or something like that.
That's like touch and go back then, man.
greg fitzsimmons
So how are you dealing with...
This shift in the paradigm, because for us, it's like we are receiving accolades.
We are getting positive energy thrown at us in the form of laughter.
How are you dealing with your psyche and the loss of that?
joe rogan
That's interesting.
That's an interesting question.
That doesn't seem to be affecting me at all.
I guess maybe because I've been able to do the podcast still, but also because I'm one of those people that I very highly value recognizing the reality of the moment.
And accepting it.
I think it's very important.
Very important to not dwell and freak out about things that you have zero control over.
This is clearly something.
We have zero control over.
The whole world's shut down.
And I think in those opportunities, sometimes it gives you a moment to reflect and go, okay.
How do I feel about everything?
How am I? What am I doing?
If this really is this temporary existence, am I doing it in the most pleasurable way, the most enjoyable way, the most fulfilling and loving way?
Am I doing this the right way?
Or am I just doing this the way I've been doing it because I'm on this momentum kick of you're constantly doing more and constantly doing bigger places and constantly traveling?
Okay, that's all fun.
No doubt about it.
That stuff's fun.
But what's the right balance, right?
There's a health and enjoyment balance that you have to recognize, and family and community balance, too.
We're all forced to hang out with each other.
Even if we're doing it like social distance style, we're kind of forced to be around each other all the time.
It's good.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's good.
It's what we're supposed to be.
That's how people are supposed to live.
We're supposed to live around each other all the time.
greg fitzsimmons
And support each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what communities used to be.
greg fitzsimmons
Take care of each other when somebody's down.
Like, what can I do?
I mean, it's like one of the first impulses a lot of people are feeling is, all right, first and foremost, take care of my own.
And then the second feeling, which is almost as strong as like, How can I help other people?
joe rogan
Community.
Yeah.
Our feeling of community.
It's enhanced.
You know, one of the places that I always think of as the loneliest places is apartment buildings.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I always feel like apartments are really lonely, which is a weird feeling, right, to have when you're looking at something that has thousands of people living in one structure or hundreds of people or whatever the number might be.
But I remember living in apartment buildings.
I never knew any of those people.
I'm like, hi, how you doing?
Hey, what's up?
You just go into your little door, you shut your cage, you bolt it, and you hope nobody breaks in and takes your things.
Apartments are weird.
You don't get too tight with people that live next door.
greg fitzsimmons
Especially if it's rentals.
If it's a condo where you own, people start to go like, you're going to be here for a while, we'll say hi.
joe rogan
Well, Norton, I think, owns his place, and he was saying he don't know anybody.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Maybe it's changed since this conversation that I had with him.
He goes, I live with a fucking thousand people.
I don't know any of them.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and he's got a fucking pool, and he's never invited me.
How many times, like, kiddingly, I go like, hey, we should all come over on Sunday.
You're like, we'll be at the cellar.
Hey, we should all come over Sunday and hang out at your pool.
And he's always like, yeah, his voice goes up like three hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that'd be great.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
He doesn't want anyone in his fucking house.
joe rogan
You can't come to his pool.
You can't come to his dungeon, first of all.
Who knows what kinds of straps and bolt-ons and who knows what kind of things.
greg fitzsimmons
Fake feet with a dick insert at the bottom of it.
joe rogan
He's so hilarious.
I saw him the other day in Spider-Man.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I hate him and he stinks.
Something like that.
It was a quick blurb where they're asking him how he feels about Spider-Man.
It was fucking hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, his book is called Happy Endings.
joe rogan
Two books.
greg fitzsimmons
It's so fucking funny.
joe rogan
He wrote two books.
Jim Norton is a legit author.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I had a conversation with him about it.
There he is.
Play it.
unidentified
I stink and I don't like it.
He fucking, he got booked.
greg fitzsimmons
His agent negotiated it.
They sent a car.
He got a trailer.
They put on makeup.
They went through wardrobe tests.
And then just, he stinks and I don't like him.
Okay, that's a wrap.
Thanks for coming in.
joe rogan
I bet that was maybe two takes.
Maybe they asked him to do it twice, but he probably nailed it on the first one.
greg fitzsimmons
And he'll be getting residuals for the rest of his life.
joe rogan
He stinks and I don't like him.
It wasn't a bad movie, man.
We're watching a lot of movies.
Okay, here's something.
Underrated.
Massively underrated.
Adam Sandler movies.
greg fitzsimmons
Sure.
joe rogan
Adam Sandler movies are ridiculously underrated.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ridiculously underrated.
greg fitzsimmons
You watching them with your daughters?
joe rogan
Dude, they're hilarious.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Adam Sandler has, like, I don't know how many movies that are really, really funny, but surprisingly funny.
Like, bah!
Chuck and Larry, the one where he marries Kevin James for benefits.
greg fitzsimmons
I didn't see that one.
joe rogan
Dude, it is hilarious.
There's some rough moments in it where you watch and you go, whoa, you could never do this in 2020. It's one of those movies like if somebody ever goes back on it and looks like, hey, what the fuck?
But ultimately, in the end, it was like a really positive movie.
But dude, there are hilarious moments in that movie where I'm like, wow, this is really fucking funny.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kingpin?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, Kingpin's fucking great.
joe rogan
No, no, it's a different movie.
No, no, I'm just saying Kingpin is another movie that I wish I could go back and watch again because it's a little too rough for my kids.
Rated R. But that's another one.
You can forget how fucking funny that movie is.
I forgot how funny those Adam Sandler movies are, though.
greg fitzsimmons
I really did.
joe rogan
There's a lot of them, man.
Waterboy is fucking hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It starts off, you're like, oh, is this going to be good?
Because, you know, it's 20 years ago or whatever the fuck it was.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it's like, I don't know, did people watch Laurel and Hardy back then and go like, oh, this is fucking, did it all get dismissed as being too silly?
It's like, no, those guys now, you know, they accomplished something.
They provided something.
joe rogan
It's a style of movie.
It's a absurdist, ridiculous style.
The Zohan?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a style of movie.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
joe rogan
And he's so good at it, man.
Really funny shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's weird.
People have this idea about what is acceptable funny and not acceptable funny.
And he always got pushed into this category of if critics would pan it.
If you look at a lot of them, the Rotten Tomatoes are like 14%, 15%.
greg fitzsimmons
And then the audience is like 97. Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Dude, they're just missing what it is.
You can't want the Ramones to be Pink Floyd.
Pink Floyd has their own style.
And the Ramones had a way more, like Rock and Roll High School, it was a simpler, it's a different thing.
It's a different thing, right?
Adam Sandler movies are their own thing.
They're fucking hilarious, man.
I've watched like five of them over the last week.
greg fitzsimmons
It kind of goes into the genre of like Lorne Michaels has never given a shit about critics, you know?
And they take sketches and characters from the show that are funny.
And starting with the first one must have been the Blues Brothers or Animal House.
And they just started spinning out fucking movies from what they knew were the kernels of something that was very funny.
They started there.
And so a lot of them are, you know, even like, it's Pat.
Like, you go back and watch some of those movies, they're fucking hilarious!
As long as you go in with the right mindset.
joe rogan
Tommy Boy I watched too.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I never saw Tommy Boy before.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm like, why didn't I ever see this?
It's hilarious.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Swartzen's in that, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Swartzen's in all these movies.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's in everything.
He's in Chuck and Larry.
He's like one of the best parts of Chuck and Larry.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's amazing.
Nick Swartzen is fucking hilarious.
He's really, really, really funny.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Dude, when he was like...
When he first came to New York, I can't imagine he was more than 19 or 20 years old.
And he was like hanging around with all the comics and...
And he was just like already as funny as everybody else.
He already had the confidence.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And just like the knowledge about...
He's a really fucking brilliant guy.
joe rogan
Well, he's just got a style of comedy too that's his.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like his kind of punchline.
It's him, you know?
He knows how to do it.
greg fitzsimmons
He understands how to put diarrhea in a punchline.
joe rogan
Every one of these Adam Sandler movies, man.
So is Rob Schneider.
Rob Schneider's in every one of them.
There's so many of these movies where they culturally appropriate.
You're like, oh my god, you could never do that today.
Rob Schneider plays this really, really stereotypical Japanese guy.
He has Japanese eyes on.
They put makeup to change his eyes to look more like a Japanese guy.
He's got a crazy bowl haircut like Moe from the Three Stooges.
He's so racist.
You would never be able to do that today.
It's hilarious.
But it's like, why can't you do that today?
It's just a character.
It's supposed to be over the top and ridiculous.
It doesn't mean everyone in the race is horrible.
This is an individual that this guy chose to play.
But I don't think you could do it anymore.
You'd take too much heat.
greg fitzsimmons
You know what I was thinking about the other day?
I watched...
unidentified
What was the show with that black woman in it?
joe rogan
Medea?
greg fitzsimmons
No, it's a TV series with a black woman who's a British actress.
She sang at the Oscars this year anyway.
joe rogan
What are you watching?
What kind of spare time do you have?
Do you watch a movie where there's an opera singer?
greg fitzsimmons
Is that what you said?
joe rogan
What kind of singing?
greg fitzsimmons
You know, like R&B, but the point is she's a British African.
What you say is there's African-American and there's British?
joe rogan
How do you say that?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know.
But she was portraying an American woman, and you think, but is that cultural appropriation?
Because she's not an American black woman.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Ooh, that's a really interesting point.
It's like a British woman who's of African descent playing an African-American.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a different thing.
But I think there's a loophole.
There's a cross-pollination loophole.
I think you're allowed to do that.
greg fitzsimmons
They both suffered.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're allowed to do that.
What you can't do is blackface.
You're just pretending you're a black person from another continent.
I mean, you were sold off to slavery, you know, in some European continent as well.
Cynthia Ervino?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, she played Harriet Tubman.
joe rogan
Yeah, Cynthia Erivo.
greg fitzsimmons
What was the TV show that she did that was so fucking good?
joe rogan
The Outsider.
Dude, she's incredible.
She's incredible.
greg fitzsimmons
She's so good in the outside.
unidentified
She's incredible.
greg fitzsimmons
Because she plays an autistic person or someone on the spectrum, but she doesn't overplay it.
joe rogan
No, she nails it.
greg fitzsimmons
It's very hard to play that.
joe rogan
Not only that, she never breaks.
It's like super consistent the entire time.
And you've almost like...
I don't want to give away too much of that show because that show's really good.
It's called The Outsider.
It's an HBO series, a supernatural, scary, spooky series.
But she plays this savant character.
I don't want to give too much of it away because you really should see it.
It's pretty fucking incredible.
But the way she does it, you're thinking, oh, the way she thinks, she's probably thinking it this way.
You start thinking through her.
Right, right.
When you see the character navigate certain perils and bad situations, you're kind of seeing it like, oh, what is her response going to be to this?
Because you know that she's playing this character.
You're buying in.
She's got you fully sucked in.
You know how someone does that sometimes?
You're almost like you're thinking like they are on the screen.
That's why when they kick someone's ass, you get excited.
Because you almost feel like you're kicking that person's ass.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, there's a phrase for that in writing.
I think it's called the Eyes In or something like that.
joe rogan
That does happen, right?
There's movies where that, like thriller movies where that happens, where you don't know how someone's going to escape, if they're going to escape, if someone's waiting for them, some shit's about to go down.
You're like in that person's head.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
In a lot of ways.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Silence of the Lambs.
joe rogan
Yes.
Oh, sure.
For sure.
That's a perfect example.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
When it's dark out, when she can't see, and she's got the pistol and she's trying to figure out where the fuck this guy is.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, the way they shot that where you're convinced that she's going to one place and then the FBI is going to another place, and you're convinced the FBI has got the killer.
And they've got their guns drawn, they storm the house, and in a quick cut, they go from them busting into the house...
The killer's not in there, to write back to her, and you suddenly realize, oh no, she's about to walk in on the killer.
That's one of the greatest fucking moments in movie history.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, HBO's got a lot of good shit.
There's a series called My Brilliant Friend.
It's a series of Italian books this woman Elena Ferrante wrote.
They were really good.
There's like four or five of them.
And I read them all.
And then they made this series.
It's one of the few times where it's been as good as the books are.
And it's in Italian.
It's subtitled.
Which all sounds really fucking boring, but it's great.
joe rogan
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
who wrote the books, it's set in Naples, which I guess is like a shitty part of Italy.
It's like kind of the ghetto of Italy, but they speak dialect.
They call it dialect instead of Italian.
So the writer wanted it to be authentic, so she only let them hire actresses from Naples, Italy, which is fucking, there's no acting community there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it's a dialect of Italian because my grandmother spoke it.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, is that right?
joe rogan
Yeah, my grandmother spoke it.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, so she was poor.
joe rogan
And they would speak it around the house, too, and they would explain to me that sometimes this is not regular Italian.
Some parts of my family knew it and some parts of my family did not know it, but it wasn't straightforward Italian.
There was some weird shit in there.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
So she wanted it spoken in dialect.
So they hired...
They found actors from this fucking town.
And they are...
I'm telling you, the two lead actresses are...
They're going to win Emmys.
It's fucking...
They're brilliant.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're just folks from the town.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Were they acting in their town?
Were they doing like community stuff?
greg fitzsimmons
I'm not sure.
I'm sure they did some acting.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
Because they have chops, but like...
joe rogan
Dude, imagine they didn't.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
All actors would feel like shit.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
I know.
joe rogan
Like, these people just stepped up to the plate from a bakery and knocked it out of the fucking park.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, that's what it was with a lot of, like...
I think Scorsese would...
He knew Italians from Little Italy, from where he grew up.
And he'd put some of these guys in his movies, and they were just...
Like, Pussy.
joe rogan
Big Pussy?
greg fitzsimmons
Big Pussy.
What's his name?
joe rogan
Joey Diaz?
greg fitzsimmons
No, what's the guy's name who played Big Pussy?
joe rogan
Goddammit.
greg fitzsimmons
He runs the comedy club in Vegas.
joe rogan
Does he really?
greg fitzsimmons
Am I thinking of the right guy?
joe rogan
You're making up Italians.
You're so racist.
greg fitzsimmons
This guy...
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
Salvatore...
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I'm thinking of the wrong guy.
It's not Big Pussy.
joe rogan
It's the other guy.
Played by Vincent Pastore.
greg fitzsimmons
Who's the guy that ran a comic?
joe rogan
That was his character.
So Vincent Pastore is the actor.
greg fitzsimmons
Sorry about that, Vincent.
The guy that ran...
joe rogan
He's amazing, by the way.
That guy's fucking incredible.
jamie vernon
Steve?
greg fitzsimmons
Steve Sharippa, I'm thinking of.
joe rogan
Oh, you knucklehead.
greg fitzsimmons
Who hadn't done much acting.
joe rogan
He was doing that long before The Sopranos.
He was running the comedy club way, way, way back in the day.
And then, you know who got him on first?
Drew Carey.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, Drew Carey hooked him up.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, so he never acted, comes in, and he's fucking brilliant.
joe rogan
Kills it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kills it.
I mean, literally has one of the biggest roles.
In the Sopranos.
And nails it.
And I'm telling you, I knew Steve Schrempa from back when he ran the Riviera in Vegas.
I love him to death.
He's got an amazing tomato sauce, by the way.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
An organic tomato sauce.
Pull up his Italian tomato sauce.
He's got marinara.
He's got arrabata sauce, that spicy sauce, like if you get lobster fra diavolo.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's it right there.
Uncle Steve's.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
Arabiata.
I never know how to say that.
I only read it.
I never actually say that word.
unidentified
Arabiata.
joe rogan
How do you say it?
Arabiata?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
But whatever.
It's got marinara sauce.
It's tomato basil.
It's all organic too.
It's really good stuff.
greg fitzsimmons
Your grandmother still alive?
joe rogan
No.
No, my grandmother, dude, my grandmother had a stroke and they gave my grandfather, they said she's got about 72 hours to live.
She lived 12 years.
12 years after an aneurysm.
greg fitzsimmons
And he thought she had three weeks?
joe rogan
They did not think she was going to make it.
She made it for 12 years.
So the last 12 years of my grandmother's life, when I would go to visit her, she was immobile, in a bed, she couldn't remember me.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, it was horrible, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
Do you think when your grandfather was told she had three weeks left, do you think he threw a move on her?
joe rogan
No.
I lived with them when I first moved to New Jersey from Boston.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
When I left Boston for New York, I had zero money.
And so I just stayed with my grandparents in Newark.
And my grandmother was in that state at the time.
Where she was bedridden and...
greg fitzsimmons
Did they have help or was it just your grandfather taken care of?
joe rogan
They would have help.
They would have nurses would come over and help as well.
It was rough, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
It was a sobering reminder of the temporary nature of life.
Because I remember my grandmother when I was little.
She was always this powerful lady, this powerful force.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, she was always yelling at my grandfather, don't rush me.
Don't rush me, Joe!
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
My grandfather's name was Joe, too.
Don't rush me, Joe!
Get out of her way!
I've talked about her before, how crazy she was, in an amazing way.
But my grandmother had a monkey.
She had a monkey named Chi Chi.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, Chi Chi.
Chi Chi used to open up gum, peel open gum, stick it in a smile and chew it.
But Chi Chi bit some folks.
They had to get rid of Chi Chi.
But Chi Chi lived in the attic, so when I would come over, they'd have to put Chi Chi away, because Chi Chi didn't like kids.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, so you didn't get to play with the monkey?
Imagine being a kid and knowing there's a monkey in the house and you can't play with it?
joe rogan
Nobody could play with that monkey.
greg fitzsimmons
That must have been torture for you.
joe rogan
No, I was scared of that little thing.
That little thing, it bit somebody.
I can't remember if it bit my sister or my cousin.
I can't remember because we were real little at the time.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, probably like four or something like that.
I don't remember.
It bit somebody.
Chi-Chi bit somebody.
And then they had to put Chi-Chi away.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, poor Chi-Chi.
joe rogan
I don't know what they did with him.
unidentified
Hey, Chi-Chi, get in the attic and the kids are coming over.
joe rogan
She might have gave Chi-Chi away.
My grandmother was the real deal, though.
She made homemade pasta.
Oh, that's amazing.
The whole thing with dough to flour to sauce.
There was not a goddamn thing that was not made by her.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
She grew up in Italy?
joe rogan
Well, she was born in Italy, but mostly grew up in Italian neighborhoods in New Jersey.
Right.
And that's where they were living when I came to visit them.
greg fitzsimmons
And so people don't realize, like, you go to an Italian restaurant in LA, it's like, there's some really good ones, but it's just, you can go to a fucking, you go to Route 7 in New Jersey and find a little Angelina's fucking restaurant and it'll be the best Italian food you've ever had.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get some ridiculous Italian-American food.
That's what's interesting.
It's like it's a different style of cooking even than Italian-Italian food.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You know, and when you go to Italy, things are, it's just, a lot of the things we associate with Italian food, like the marinara sauce and the meatballs and that kind of stuff, that was more made popular over here.
Like that style of Italian food, like lasagnas and shit like that, that we consider like Italian food, a lot of that was like made popular over here.
When you go over there, things are more elegant.
You know, having like linguine with clams and it's a perfect presentation.
You're going to these nice restaurants and Even the pizza seems different over there.
But Italian-Americans, it was a different breed because it was the psychos that wanted to get on boats.
Same with Irish-Americans.
They're the people that were willing to get on a boat and drift across the ocean, man.
We don't want to go on a fucking cruise line right now.
You don't want to go on a cruise.
greg fitzsimmons
Imagine back then.
My grandfather was one of 13 kids.
12 of them came over one at a time.
The family lived in a fucking three-room hut.
And every time they somehow could get enough money together, they'd take one of the kids when they were like 14...
Put them on a boat in steerage, send them to America.
They had like fucking third cousins in Montana.
They had nothing.
They were coming into Ellis Island with nothing.
No like address, no fucking iPhone giving you directions on how to get out to Brooklyn.
And they just kept showing up one by one and they all made it.
Every one of them made it over here.
It's incredible.
joe rogan
It's insane.
When you think about how bad life must have sucked in Italy and in Ireland at the time, and in England as well, that people were willing to just hop on a boat and take a risk.
No video, no photographs.
You know that?
There's no photographs until like the late 1800s.
So a lot of these people, they're just guessing.
The people that came over here in the 1700s, the 1800s...
Just guessing.
Just guessing what's over there.
You got a drawing for me?
So I can risk my life and my baby?
Can you show me a drawing?
This is a mango forest.
All the mangoes you want.
Alright.
Get the baby.
greg fitzsimmons
Let's get on the boat.
unidentified
Let's drift across the fucking ocean while we're drunk.
joe rogan
Let's kill a few people along the way.
greg fitzsimmons
Not knowing what diseases are going to be there when you get there.
joe rogan
Bro, they were all diseases.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that was one of the things that Dr. Peter Hotez was on the podcast yesterday.
He was explaining quarantine, and he was saying that essentially when a boat would come into a harbor, the word quarantine came from 40 days.
They had to leave these people on the boat for 40 days to make sure they weren't infected with the plague.
So that's how they handled it back then.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is nothing new.
But back then, they didn't even know when the plagues were coming or what it was or how to avoid it or what are the symptoms.
There's no vaccines.
There was no vaccines.
Imagine no vaccines for fucking smallpox.
Imagine that.
Like, it's just going to storm through and disfigure everybody.
Sorry.
greg fitzsimmons
You know what they used to do is they would go around with a corpse of somebody that died from smallpox.
They would inject you with it, with some cells from the corpse.
They would go door to door with a wagon with a corpse in the back of it, and they would give you injections.
unidentified
No.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many people did that give smallpox to?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know, but I guess if you give a small amount, they realized that it worked as a vaccine if you gave a very small amount.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was that effective?
greg fitzsimmons
I imagine some people died from it if it wasn't done right.
joe rogan
We have to figure that out.
That's fascinating.
See if you can find...
Jamie's the fastest one-handed Googler on planet Earth.
greg fitzsimmons
We're not going to say what he does with his other hand.
joe rogan
He's a wizard.
He's jerking off in the tub.
jamie vernon
So this would be, I typed in injections with corpses, nothing quite came up right away, like on wagons, you said, or something like that?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I remember watching, HBO did this special about John Adams in Boston, and there was a scene from it where they were going through town with a wagon with a corpse in it, shooting people.
joe rogan
When was the first vaccine?
When was that?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know.
joe rogan
If you had to guess.
Like, what was the polio vaccine?
What year was that?
That's not the first one, but that's the most.
Like, who knows a guy who made a vaccine more than anyone knows Jonas Salk?
jamie vernon
Smallpox was the first one.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
First vaccine.
joe rogan
And what year was it?
jamie vernon
1796. Holy shit!
joe rogan
They had a vaccine in 1796?
So that must be exactly what it was.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What did they know in 1796?
Dude, you imagine getting your leg broken back then?
Fuck!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
The odds that you had a doctor that knew what the fuck they were doing.
There was no good medical schools in 1796. Like, you read about guys getting their medical degrees in like a year.
You know, it's always like John Hancock.
Yeah, he had a medical degree, he had a law degree, all by the time he was 21 years old.
joe rogan
What do you think?
greg fitzsimmons
My lawyer sucks!
joe rogan
What do you do if they're bleeding?
Try to stop the blood from all leaking out.
greg fitzsimmons
Get a rag.
joe rogan
Dude, whenever I think about old school doctors, I think about the scene in The Wolfman with Benicio Del Toro, where they were running exams on him in one of those medical theaters.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, they used to have medical theaters where people would sit in the stands and look down and watch people perform operations.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So students could just sit there.
People could just sit there and watch.
It was like a theater.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Coughing.
joe rogan
How fucking weird is that?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, in the Wolfman movie, that's when Benicio Del Toro becomes the Wolfman in front of all these people.
They got them all strapped in.
But the people that are in that audience, they're just gawkers.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just sitting there watching.
Some guy saw some dude's leg off.
They've got them biting down on leather and shit.
Fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
What would you pay to do that, though?
Sit in that audience.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
I don't want to see that.
You'd be so freaked out.
greg fitzsimmons
But, I mean, people go to see horror movies.
They want to get freaked out.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's not real.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
Part of what's fun about horror movies is it's not real violence.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I had a conversation about that with Hugo Martin.
He's the creative director for Doom, which is Doom Eternal.
It's a new video game.
And in the video game, Doom Eternal, first of all, looks insane.
It looks so good.
But the gore is so over the top.
Like you're ripping people's heads off and blood spraying.
They're all like zombie people.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like cutting them in half with a chainsaw, like crazy shit, blowing them up.
And he was like, because it's so, so over the top.
It's cartoonish.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's less disturbing than like if it was more realistic.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Okay.
I was like arguing it a little bit, but I've been thinking about it a lot, like whether or not that makes any sense.
Like it's one of those thoughts that's stuck in my head.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it's like Tarantino movies.
Like, you know, in that scene where they have that sword fight in that Chinese restaurant.
joe rogan
Which one's Kill Bill?
greg fitzsimmons
In Kill Bill.
And Uma Thurman is just fucking slaying.
And there's like four inches of blood on the floor when she's done.
That's right.
Because it's a comic book.
So it doesn't...
After a while, you're kind of laughing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, his movies are so hyper-violent.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I forgot when we were talking recently about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, the scene in the end when people are just getting smashed.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, whoa!
You forgot.
You forgot some of the scenes that that guy's put in movies.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
But is that less disturbing somehow than something that's like more realistic violence?
I don't know.
Like, is that more disturbing, here's a perfect example, than Silence of the Lambs.
The Silence of the Lambs, that scene with Jodie Foster in the end was so realistic.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you really felt trapped with her.
Like, fuck.
But did you feel like that when you're watching Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
No, you're watching Spectacle.
You enjoyed it.
It was great.
It was a great movie.
But it was like Spectacle more than I have genuine anxiety because I'm worried what's going to happen to her.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Yeah, there's a movie called Wait Until Dark that was made back in the 60s.
And it was no violence.
Nobody gets even slapped in the face.
And it's the scariest movie you've ever watched in your life.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
It's about this blind woman, and she's going through customs, and somebody like sticks heroin in her luggage, so she brings it home, and now they've got to go and get the heroin from her.
And so she's blind and she lives alone, and so they sneak into her apartment, and it's all about her trying to defend herself.
And so she...
Turns off all her, she smashes all her light bulbs, so she's on even footing with them.
So they're trying to find her in the dark.
And it's like, it's fucking amazing.
If you're looking for it, wait until dark.
unidentified
Ooh.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
I couldn't find verbiage of it, but I actually found the scene from the John Adams thing, where they're showing...
I guess this would be an interpretation of what inoculation was like.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
They're carrying around on some wagon.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, it's not a corpse.
He's still alive.
joe rogan
So they scrape some pus off of him, and then they inject it into people.
Jesus Christ, Jamie.
jamie vernon
He cuts a little hole in her arm.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
jamie vernon
For those that want to watch this on YouTube, I'm not showing this, just look up Smallpox Anoculation, John Adams, HBO, you'll find it.
joe rogan
Wow, that is goddamn crazy.
You know, that's interesting that that's how they used to do it, because was it the polio vaccine?
It was one of the vaccines where you got a big scar from it.
I actually have a scar.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, is it round?
joe rogan
On my left shoulder.
It's like a sort of a slice.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I had it from the time I was a baby.
jamie vernon
I guess I might have one too.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it looked like.
Yeah, like a little slice.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was from a vaccine that I got when I guess I was a baby.
I think it was a polio vaccine.
Or was it smallpox?
Was that a smallpox?
jamie vernon
I typed in polio, but...
joe rogan
Whatever it was.
greg fitzsimmons
Soon we're all going to have, hopefully we're going to have a mark from a fucking coronavirus vaccine.
They say a year to a year and a half.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Stop.
Yeah.
Whatever is stopping people from funding medical research, I hope they open up the floodgates now.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
I hope they realize, like, hey, you need more of these guys, and they need a lot more money, and they need to be way ahead of this shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, yeah, because this is one pandemic.
There are multiple different scenarios of how this happens again.
joe rogan
Sure.
Well, there was another guy that died recently on a bus that they identified as having a completely different coronavirus in China, but he got a virus that specifically hasn't jumped from human to human.
It's only jumped from rats to humans.
And the way it jumps from rats to humans is by ingesting animal feces or animal urine.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, animal fluids.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
So this guy somehow or another got some live bat fluid in his body and was dying on this bus.
And they pulled the guy off and he tests positive for a totally different coronavirus that's killing him.
greg fitzsimmons
What do you think would happen?
Like imagine some guy gets corona and he's got it fucking bad.
Systems are shutting down.
This is it.
He's gonna die.
And he wants to have sex again, but he doesn't want to get anybody sick.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
greg fitzsimmons
So he fucks his dog.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
greg fitzsimmons
And then, like, all the symptoms go away.
And he realizes, like, he's found the cure.
And now he has this moral obligation.
Like, does he call the CDC and say, hey, I'm kind of embarrassed to tell you guys this, but I think I cracked it.
joe rogan
And what if it's only his dog?
What if everybody has to come to his house and fuck his dog?
We tried fucking a bunch of different dogs.
There's no way to recreate this thing unless we fuck Marty.
Marty?
But I fuck Marty.
No, we're all gonna have to fuck Marty.
There's a train of people every day outside of Marty's house.
greg fitzsimmons
You're trying to breed Marty so he can fuck the puppies?
joe rogan
They're trying to do calculations on how many pumps it takes to cure you.
You can't let people pump too many times because poor Marty needs a break.
greg fitzsimmons
Does it help if he blows you, put peanut butter in my dick, see what happens?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
greg fitzsimmons
Everybody's like, the pounds are empty.
Everybody's adopting dogs.
joe rogan
Fucking dogs.
Oh my god.
Look, biology is so weird, man.
That wouldn't even be that shocking.
That's the way a disease gets cured, you have to fuck an animal.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
How's it any weirder than some of the shit that's real?
How's it any weirder than some of these parasites that...
Have you ever seen those videos of frogs that have the parasites in their eyeballs, and they're swimming around their eyeballs?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
It's so creepy, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're getting eaten from the inside out by these parasites that are in their eyeballs.
This poor frog is sitting there, and these worms are squirreling all around, like visibly under its eyeballs.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, my brother-in-law, he's a cinematographer.
He shoots nature stuff, so he goes deep into the Amazon.
He shot the first live, I want to say, rhino or hippopotamus birth ever filmed.
joe rogan
Look at that poor frog.
greg fitzsimmons
Holy shit!
joe rogan
Dude, nature doesn't give a fuck.
Nature is just going to war 24-7, finding new ways to fuck up animals, testing their systems.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
Breaking through and establishing dominance inside this poor fucking creature's eyeball.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Bro.
Shut that down, Jamie.
unidentified
Please.
greg fitzsimmons
So my brother-in-law was in the Amazon.
He was shooting, I think it was the first live hippo or rhino birth.
And he comes back and he's visiting us out in California.
And he's got this bump on his arm.
And it's got a red line running up his arm, which means there's some kind of a bad infection.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
So they shoot him up full of antibiotics.
They say, you'll be fine.
So...
He's driving up the PCH, going up to Malibu with his family, and he's poking at it.
He's trying to pop it like a zit.
And all of a sudden, the thing just fucking explodes.
And this being, this creature, fucking flies out of him and lands on the floor of the car and is looking around, this little creature.
And the kids are fucking going, ah!
And he's like, it fucking jumped out of me!
And they're freaking out, and they brought it to the tropical disease specialist.
He went to the hospital and said, what the fuck is this?
They sent it to the tropical disease specialist, and they found out it was a batfly larva.
joe rogan
Oh, batfly.
unidentified
Yeah, batflies are disgusting.
greg fitzsimmons
He uses you as a host.
joe rogan
Don't turn that on, baby.
Come on, play that.
Look at that super zit.
There's a crazy Netflix documentary on rats that has a rat that's infected with a bot fly, and it's like, you know, 20% of its neck.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The thing is this enormous, huge fucking, oh god, they're extracting it.
Whoa, look at that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and it's got a little head.
joe rogan
How weird, man.
That little fucker was living inside that guy's body.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ugh.
And so they come out.
So look at that, man.
Well, that thing can't look around, though.
It flies out?
Doesn't it just come out as a larva?
Like that?
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe it's because he was squeezing it.
joe rogan
That it flew away?
greg fitzsimmons
But it shot out.
joe rogan
When does it become a bot fly?
Like it's a larva.
So it looks like it buries itself into the ground and then becomes...
Come on, man.
How's that any different than a monster?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Look at that.
It's just little.
It's a monster.
The whole insect world is the scariest horror movie that's ever existed.
The scariest monster movie ever is the whole insect world.
We are so lucky that spiders, black widows, and tarantulas, we're so lucky that they're little.
So lucky.
greg fitzsimmons
Until the radiation starts.
joe rogan
Dude, we would have no chance.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if praying mantises were the size of horses?
Just running around snatching people out of their Priuses?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tipping over the fucking car and pulling the people out of the back seats?
greg fitzsimmons
We'd all be armed.
You'd have all kinds of firearms on you all the time.
joe rogan
You'd have to have a really high-caliber rifle to penetrate the exterior shell of a praying mantis if it was at scale.
And you probably wouldn't even hurt it that much.
Oh, they're extracting it.
Look at this.
Yo!
And look how they have to do it kind of slowly.
They have to slowly ease it out.
Oh, my God.
Look at the size of that thing that's in this person's calf.
greg fitzsimmons
That's the thing about being in the jungle.
Forget about the fucking tigers and the panthers.
How about the botflies?
joe rogan
Look how big this is.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
Look how big that is.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm nauseous.
I just got nauseous.
joe rogan
Look at that dirty hippie that's getting this treatment.
They have those wrist bracelets.
greg fitzsimmons
He's pulling out a second one.
joe rogan
No.
Look at the bracelets.
jamie vernon
Oh, there is.
joe rogan
You almost deserve a botfly if you wear those bracelets.
Look at that.
Here's the second botfly.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm good on that.
joe rogan
Oh my god, there's more than one botfly.
Jesus Christ, look at the size of this fucking thing.
Look at the size!
This is the second one in this hole.
jamie vernon
Oh my god.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
That's so insane.
That's so insane.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
That's gross.
When I was a teenager, we used to go to this golf course and we would look for golf balls in the woods and then we would sell them back to the pro shop for like 50 cents a ball.
And then we realized like the ponds, everybody was hitting their fucking balls into the lakes and the ponds and so we would go We'd go in bathing suits and you would step and it would go like up to your knees in silt, just mud.
And you would feel around with your feet for the balls and you'd reach down and pull them up and you could get dozens of balls just walking around.
And then we'd get out and we'd have fucking leeches all over our calves.
And we would just take alcohol, put it on and yank them off.
And you're a teenager, you don't give a shit.
Just fucking no problem.
You ever get a leech?
joe rogan
No.
No, I've been lucky.
I've never been bit by a dangerous snake.
I've had some spider bites, but never by like a black widow or anything like that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've seen a lot of snakes though, man.
Rattlesnakes are freaky.
Brendan Schaub just found one on a hike.
He sent me a picture and a video of this fucking thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah?
joe rogan
Huge rattlesnake on a hike.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
I was like, what?
What is that, man?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that thing that's just hanging around that can kill you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Or how about the big ones now in the Florida Everglades?
joe rogan
Pythons.
This is how dumb we are in California.
Those things...
Pythons are valuable.
They're an invasive species that's destroying.
You want to talk about the destruction of an ecosystem.
The way pythons have decimated life in the Everglades is kind of like a little bit of an open secret.
All the biologists are aware of it.
They've done these studies on deer and all these different mammals and all these different things, and the populations are Ridiculously reduced.
Almost down to nothing.
You don't find raccoons anymore.
You don't find a lot of the animals they used to find in the Everglades anymore.
And they also eat alligators.
So what do we do in California?
You can't buy Python because Python It is an exotic species.
We don't want to encourage people to use that as a skin.
That is a deer and raccoon and squirrel-eating demon from another continent.
And it lives in Florida.
And if you made it valuable, you fucking knuckleheads, people would go in there and kill those fucking things and bring the natural ecosystem back into balance.
greg fitzsimmons
Why aren't they killing them?
joe rogan
Because they're assholes.
First of all, because you can't even sell them in California.
Two, because it's hard.
It should be valuable.
They should be valuable.
It should be something that we...
Look, if you leave them there, you're saying, fuck all these other animals.
Let's let this demon snake that's supposed to exist on another continent and has no natural enemies here.
Let's let that thing just wander through the fucking swamps and kill everything in its path.
Let's just do that.
greg fitzsimmons
Or sell it!
But I'm not a hunter, but I would think if you're a hunter, wouldn't it feel noble to actually go and help the Everglades?
joe rogan
It's dangerous, though.
That's dangerous.
Like, that's not just regular hunting.
You're hunting monsters.
You know, you're in alligator country.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of my favorite alligator stories is a guy was running from the cops.
He had a stolen car, parked the car.
He sees a stolen car or a high-speed chase, whatever it was.
Parks the car on a bridge, jumps in the water, immediately gets eaten by an alligator.
unidentified
Yeah.
He jumped in the water right on a fucking alligator.
joe rogan
And the alligator just jacked him.
He thought he was going to be a badass and jump in and swim to safety.
This fucking 16-footer just...
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
Dude, file that under...
There's a Twitter account called Florida Man.
It's amazing!
Isn't it fucking great?
That's a Florida man story right there.
joe rogan
It is a Florida man story.
Dude, they're real.
When I was a kid, hunters put the squeeze on 80 snakes in Florida's python bowl.
Oh, they got a python bowl?
jamie vernon
In January, it says 750 people from 20 states turned up.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
They only got 80 of them in 10 days, but...
joe rogan
Ten days, they only caught 80 of them.
greg fitzsimmons
So one in ten guys in ten days.
joe rogan
Yeah, but look at the size of these things that they're killing, man.
Look at the fucking size of them.
They're enormous.
And those things are in...
I don't even know if they're killing them.
It looks like they still have them alive.
But these things are...
They're eating everything they can find, and they have no natural enemies.
And they're just spreading through that ecosystem.
The idea that that should be illegal to make a purse out of, but you can...
Can you make a purse out of a cow?
Like, why is that?
How come?
What's going on there?
Why do you think that that is more valuable than a cow?
greg fitzsimmons
And it's beautiful.
joe rogan
It is beautiful.
But this is an invasive species.
You're supposed to be killing them.
You have to put, like a human, put that thing there.
It's not supposed to be there.
And humans have to extract it because it's destroying everything.
That has crazy consequences that they never know 10, 20 years down the line what it's going to be like after these pythons just completely ruin that entire part of the country.
What are they going to do?
Those are people eaters.
They can eat people.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
Definitely kids.
joe rogan
They get so big, man.
You see that picture of the one that had the alligator that it was eating that it ripped through its body?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just imagine what kind of a thing eats an alligator and eats it all in one piece.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And now imagine that someone says, you shouldn't kill those to make purses out of them.
Yeah, actually you should.
greg fitzsimmons
They're monsters.
joe rogan
You should kill them.
Those are monsters.
Well, you shouldn't kill all of them, but they don't belong here.
Killing rattlesnakes is a terrible idea, because rattlesnakes have a really important place in the ecosystem.
You should only kill a rattlesnake if it's on your property, if it's threatening you, and if you feel like you need to defend yourself.
But going out into the woods where the rattlesnakes live, look at this thing.
Oh my god.
We're watching a python eating an alligator.
It's fucking bananas.
It just dislocates its jaw, and this thing is still alive.
So this poor little alligator is trying to figure out what the fuck is happening, and it's breathing, and this python is slowly swallowing it whole.
Now imagine what it would do to your little Timmy.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
Imagine if that thing trapped your son, if your son was out there fishing, And all his friends ran away because they were terrified because a 20-foot-long snake is eating their friend.
Well, we better not make a bag out of it.
We better not, because pythons are beautiful and we're not speciesists.
Look at it's eating the back feet.
It's all the way down to the back feet just stuffing it into its mouth.
greg fitzsimmons
That's the top three worst way to die.
joe rogan
Bro, you're still alive for a long ass time.
You get digested.
You just get smothered and digested.
Fuck all that.
jamie vernon
They've eaten people, right?
unidentified
Oh yes!
jamie vernon
Look at the teeth!
joe rogan
Look at the teeth, man!
Look at those bottom teeth!
Fuck you!
Look at those things.
Imagine that.
Biting you and pulling you leg first into its fucking mouth.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
God damn it.
We better not turn them into wallets, because that's just wrong.
You should 100% turn them into wallets.
100%.
Not only that, you're going to have to kill them.
If you don't turn them into wallets, what are you going to do with the skin?
Because you've got to kill them.
And at least the wallets are worth something.
At least the clothing is worth something.
At least let people make things out of their skin.
Don't let their whole body go to waste just for your ideology.
That's a thing, but it's a thing that's not supposed to be there.
And that's why it's destroying everything.
greg fitzsimmons
I wonder if the meat's any good.
joe rogan
A giant python swallowed an Indonesian woman.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
They are small, though.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Swallowed her.
jamie vernon
No picture, but...
joe rogan
Bro, swallowed her.
What happened to the woman?
She was 54 years old.
She went missing last Thursday while checking on her vegetable garden on Muna Island in Sulawesi province.
A huge search was mounted by local police.
Her sandals and machete were found a day later.
A giant python with a bloated belly was lying about 30 meters away.
Residents were suspicious that the snake swallowed the victim so they killed it.
They carried it out of the garden.
Gruesome footage has been circulating on social media in Indonesia showing the woman's body being recovered intact in front of a large crowd.
Fuck that.
And people are like, well, they shouldn't be made into shoes.
Yeah, you should make them into shoes.
That's what you're supposed to do when they eat people.
You fucking idiots.
greg fitzsimmons
Is it just California that made it illegal?
joe rogan
I don't know.
There's certain companies that are reacting to this push against what they call exotics, like crocodile and alligator and python, things like that.
And so certain companies are no longer making things with exotics to sort of bend to political pressure or pressure by, you know, air quotes, activists.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But really, it's monster skin.
Okay?
You got monster skin.
Let's make monster skin close.
Cut the shit.
Alright?
I'm not saying you should kill them all.
You definitely shouldn't kill them all.
But the idea you shouldn't kill most of the fucking snakes that are invasive species in Florida and sell them and make purses out of them, why?
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, how bad would a python jacket be?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
With a nice big collar.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I bet you can get one.
Probably have to go to Bali or some shit.
You gotta go somewhere sneaky.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
You'd be the king.
Walk on stage.
joe rogan
Python.
Everything.
Everything.
Python shoes.
Python pants.
unidentified
Gloves.
You look like a pimp from the 70s.
joe rogan
Gators.
That's what dudes that wanted really fancy shoes.
They wanted gators.
They wanted alligator skin shoes.
If you wanted a real nice pair of shoes that lets people know you're stepping out on the town.
Look at these gators, son.
That was a big thing.
Fucking guineas.
We always talk about their gators.
greg fitzsimmons
Because they're dangerous.
Meanwhile, I'm walking around with a cow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
The fucking easiest animal to kill.
joe rogan
So easy.
They stand there.
Made them to kill.
Turned them into something.
Do you know they go feral too?
When they go feral, they become a completely different thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah?
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
They go feral all throughout Australia.
And there's other places they go feral too, but they call them scrub bulls.
And think about how aggressive bulls are, right?
That's why it's fun to ride them when people like to grab ahold of them because they're just fucking going crazy and trying to get rid of you and trying to smash you.
The bulls are very, very aggressive.
Well, they ain't shit compared to these wild bulls.
The wild bulls are those bulls on meth.
Because they're out in the wild.
They've never been controlled.
They've never been in a cage.
And if they see people, they'll run at you 30 miles an hour and gore you and tear you apart.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
They're some of the most dangerous animals in the bush in Australia.
There's these things called scrub bulls.
My friend Adam Greentree, who killed that, that's an Asian water buffalo.
He killed that in Australia.
Those are also invasive all throughout Australia.
They brought in these Asian water buffalo and they just destroy entire swaths of land.
And they go up to the North Country and they have to shoot them.
They have to kill them.
There's no natural predators there.
Once they get past the crocodiles, nothing can fuck with them.
But they have these bulls.
They're nothing compared to the bulls.
They're like domestic cows that are wild.
greg fitzsimmons
Feral bulls.
joe rogan
He said they're the most aggressive motherfuckers in the bush.
Like way more aggressive than these Asiatic water buffalo.
And you know, you think of them, you think, oh, it's like it's gonna look like a bull.
But they even look weird.
They have like different antlers or different horns.
Their horns come out like bigger and wider.
They have interesting colorations.
They're not all black.
They're like a bunch of different cool weird colors.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, they look almost like dogs in a lot of ways.
You know, like patches, like a patch of brown, a patch of white.
Weird looking.
greg fitzsimmons
That should be the next show, is like an Anthony Bourdain, but you go to places with invasive animals, kill them, cook them, eat them, wear them.
That's your next show, man.
joe rogan
No, I'm not going to do that.
But it's a good idea.
It's a good idea, but I don't have the time for that.
Plus, I'm not shooting anything dangerous.
I'm not going to these dangerous places and hunting dangerous things.
Fuck all that.
See if you can get an image.
They're freaky looking, man.
They look like bulls, kinda.
But bulls that are wild, like sort of Tarzan looking like a human.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
But he didn't, right?
He was all jacked and he had a loincloth on and bare chested and fucked up hair.
He looked like a wild human.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
jamie vernon
This one looks fake almost, but I can't tell.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I want to see dead ones.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, the dead ones, you get a better look at them.
Scrub bull.
Yeah, like that right there.
Yeah, like that.
Look at that.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
What is that?
That's a bull.
And then the one below it, Jamie, is even weirder.
Like look at that, the white with the black, the white patches on the black skin.
They're weird.
And look at the shape of the antlers, or the horns rather.
See how widespread, see that's a water buffalo though.
That's, I think that might even be Adam.
But, like, that's a scrub bowl.
Like, that picture, what that guy's holding up.
So that's what they look like.
greg fitzsimmons
So that thing will just charge you.
joe rogan
Charge you.
That's a perfect image of one.
Look at that thing.
That kind of looks like a bowl.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
But kind of not, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're super muscular.
Yeah.
And really, really fucking aggressive.
And they used to, at one point in time, be domestic, you know, who knows how many years ago.
And they eventually got out and formed their own little pack, got together, I guess herd, I guess you would call them a herd, got together, did a lot of fucking, and made a bunch of other wild cows.
Look at that one in the lower left-hand corner, Jamie.
The dead one on the ground.
Like, look at that thing.
How weird is that?
Like, that kinda looks like a cow, but not really, right?
It kinda looks like a bull, rather.
greg fitzsimmons
It's almost got like a moose-shaped face.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
It kind of looks like a domestic bull, but not really.
You would say, what is that, some African animal or something like that?
Animals are weird when they get free.
Then you see their true nature.
There's a lot of animals that we keep in pens, and we keep them captive, and we don't really understand what the fuck they are.
We only understand what the domestic version of that animal is.
When those animals are forced to find their own food, they become a different thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Chickens are a good example of that.
I had no idea how savage chickens were until I got my own.
I was like, look at these fucking monsters.
When you would see chickens with a mouse, it was stunning.
I had seen it a couple of times.
One time I caught a mouse and I threw it in there.
They fucked this mouse up, and one of them got it and ran with it, and they all chased her around.
So she's got it in her mouth, and she's running, and they're all chasing her, trying to pull it out of her mouth.
greg fitzsimmons
I didn't even know they were carnivores.
joe rogan
Dude, they're ferocious!
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Chickens are so ferocious.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
I've never seen anything.
I mean, I guess a dog would gobble something up pretty quick, but I've never seen anything attack as lustfully at meat as a chicken.
Like, cats aren't that lustful.
If you give a cat something, they kind of gently take it from you, and they eat it.
But you know a dog, they want to eat it quick.
Chickens are like twice as fast as dogs.
Here's a perfect example.
This is a mouse, and this mouse is being chased by this cat.
And the chicken is watching this cat fuck around with this mouse and the chicken decides to step in and fuck this mouse up.
Look at this.
So the cat's like, oh, I'm just gonna play with my food.
And the chicken's like, bitch, let me show you what the fuck is up.
Look at her.
Just starts tearing it apart, man.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
And the chicken is not interested in anything other than eating that mouse.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The chicken's not there for a game.
Chicken is there to kill and eat.
That's a dinosaur, man.
It's a different kind of life form than a cat.
You know, cats are like chill with each other.
They purr.
They're more complicated.
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They like you.
They come up to you and they rub against you.
Even the Tiger King guy.
He could pet some of them cats.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Fucking fight.
joe rogan
You ain't never petting a chicken, bitch.
That chicken doesn't give a fuck about you.
Round one.
Chickens and a rat.
Is that a squirrel?
That's a ground squirrel.
jamie vernon
What is that?
greg fitzsimmons
It's a big rat.
joe rogan
Is that a rat?
It is, right?
greg fitzsimmons
So they fucking hate that they're on a vegetarian diet.
joe rogan
That might be a ground squirrel, man.
It says ninja rat.
Oh, no, that's a rat.
Wow.
So these chickens are trying to decide whether the juice is worth the squeeze.
See, they're moving in close.
They're looking for other stuff, and they're like, hmm, I think I can fuck that dude up.
Look, he's like trying to play coy.
Like he doesn't really want to eat that rat.
I'll just move a little closer.
greg fitzsimmons
He's getting a little grass.
joe rogan
Move a little closer.
Man, I think I can eat that thing.
I don't find nothing in this fucking grass, but that dude is right there.
I'm just going to ease up.
Just going to, hey, just come over here looking for worms, just like you.
Just two hunters out there.
So let's see some of that in slow motion.
Oh, the rat launched itself at the chicken.
jamie vernon
Look at that.
greg fitzsimmons
First strike.
joe rogan
The rat said, okay, I'm going to start this party.
The rat just jumped at the chicken.
Well, if a rat jumped at me, I'd feel the same way.
I'm way bigger than a chicken.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
If a rat jumped at you, you'd be like, let's get out of here!
You know?
jamie vernon
Do you think Toxo would let the rat fuck with chickens, too, the same way it does with cats?
Because it's cat-derived, right?
joe rogan
Maybe.
I mean, look at him launching himself in the air, though.
jamie vernon
Unless he's defending himself and family, maybe.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Fuck away from my...
joe rogan
Well, I think they feel that way about any bird.
That is pretty badass.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that risk to get up there fast.
joe rogan
If you're a bird, you know, and a rat sees you, like, you're a mortal enemy.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
Like, the big ones, for sure.
I see a lot of hawks, man.
I see a lot of hawks in the valley, you know, and I never have the patience to sit and watch one and hope it gets something, but, uh...
The director on news radio, Tom Chironis, was sitting in his backyard.
I think he was in Studio City.
On his back porch, he watched a dove get snatched by a hawk.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
So the dove was just sitting there on this fence, and this hawk came along and just...
Right in front of him.
Like, whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, we had a hawk smash into our sliding glass door.
I don't know what he went after, but he came in fast.
Slammed into it and took off.
joe rogan
Yeah, we killed a couple of them accidentally that way.
A couple of them, we changed our back fence from metal bars to glass, and it wiped out like three hawks.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, they fucking nose-dived right into it.
Whoa!
It was a bummer.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, birds will fly into your window all the time.
Does that happen to your house?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And you hear that THONK, and you're like, ah, shit.
And you go out and see some bird.
greg fitzsimmons
I saw this little kind of sparrow-looking bird and he was standing like against the side window of a car and he kept launching himself at the side view mirror again and again.
He just kept attacking his own image.
Not picking up on it.
joe rogan
There was a little bit of a hawk war that went on in my backyard.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think what happened is when we put up the fence, the glass fence, one hawk slammed into it.
That hawk might have been running shit.
That might have been, like, one of the top hawks of the community.
Because then there was a bunch of young hawks that were hanging around.
They were getting really cocky.
And they were, like, flying on top of the chicken coop.
You didn't have to chase them off.
Like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
They're, like, acting different.
They were like bold.
They were swooping low.
They were acting like young punks.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And then I started finding them dead.
Headless.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where one other animal, perhaps an owl, was jacking these little cunty young hawks and biting their head off.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
And then leaving their body.
Yeah, we found at least two of them, I remember, if I remember correctly.
I think it was like, we got at least two hawks rehabbed.
One of them we brought to a wildlife shelter, and they actually were able to release it back to the wild again after it mended up.
But it was another one that got KO'd flying into the fence.
And one of them that we kept for a weekend and fed it...
A big thing in the house because they were feeding them mice, okay?
So we had this hawk, and we'd go to the pet store.
There's a pet store that sells exotic pets, and they have these things called pinkies.
They're basically baby mice.
And this is what they said that you have to feed the hawk before we can get it to this wildlife thing that wasn't open until Monday.
So they're feeding them these little tiny baby mice because they want this poor hawk to be better.
So this demon is eating babies in my house, okay?
It's so crazy.
And then it gets to the end.
It gets to the end.
It's Sunday.
The demon stopped eating babies.
It left one baby alive.
So we took this one baby mouse.
And then the girls are like, well, we want to keep it as a pet.
I go, what?
I go, this thing slaughtered 10 of them.
This thing just ate, I don't know how many it ate, but it just ate its brothers and sisters.
You're like, this one I'll spare.
unidentified
I'll spare you.
joe rogan
I'll spare you and I'll bring you in.
See, is that an owl eating a hawk's head?
Yeah, see, I guess that's owl's move.
When owls kill a hawk, look at this, they just eat their fucking head, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
Takes the scout.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they leave their headless body.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
That's how badass owls are.
Look at that.
Just standing over the dude.
Imagine if you did that to a guy and you were holding him down with your feet and with your hands you just pulled his head off with your teeth and just chewed through the side of his neck to hold it under his head.
And that's sitting on some guy's roof.
That's just in your neighborhood.
Look, there's a fence.
jamie vernon
It says this guy was eating breakfast and he saw this out of his window.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
No big deal.
greg fitzsimmons
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Just one demon killing another demon.
And that's the one we associate with wisdom.
Ah, give a hoot, don't pollute.
He's the one who's telling you how many licks it takes to get to the center of the tootsie hole pop.
You remember that?
unidentified
One, two, three.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, he's out there eating hawkheads.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that, man.
greg fitzsimmons
We had a crow.
We got these fucking huge crows.
And in the driveway, I came home, and there was a possum, a baby possum, on the driveway.
It was near dead, and there was this giant fucking black crow, and he was pecking at the possum.
I don't know what human instinct made me jump in there and break it up.
And so I'm chasing the crow away, and then I tell my son to go get a shoebox inside so I can scoop up the possum, and the crow is not having it.
He's like...
That's my fucking possum, dude.
And so he keeps coming at me and I'm like staving off a crow who's like coming at me and then swooping away.
joe rogan
He's dive bombing you.
greg fitzsimmons
He's dive bombing me.
joe rogan
You don't have a weapon?
greg fitzsimmons
No, my fists and my feet.
joe rogan
Did you swing at them?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
I don't know if you would hurt a bird if it was coming at you.
I feel like there's not enough weight behind them.
You would just knock them into the air.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think they're so light.
I think it'd be hard to hurt them.
You know what I mean?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like if a bird was swooping at you and you hit it, I don't know if it would hurt it that much.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think it would just bounce off.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Because they weigh nothing.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, I'm just guessing.
I think if you kicked a turkey in the head you could fuck it up You know only if it's Thanksgiving though if Only around the holidays.
If you gave, like, a Muay Thai fighter, like, a guy who could really kick and he kicked a turkey's neck, I think you'd fuck that turkey up.
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, birds have an advantage, man.
They're like a lightweight boxer.
Just fucking in and out.
joe rogan
They're dinosaurs, man.
We were reading about this eagle that used to live in New Zealand before the people wiped it out.
It was called a Haast eagle.
And they think that people might have wiped it out because it was probably eating them.
And this thing weighed 25 pounds.
I think the biggest it got was like H-A-A-S-T eagle.
And they believe it was brought to extinction.
One of the theories is by human beings because they think that it was probably a dangerous animal.
Fucking huge eagle.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Huge.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Imagine your cousin gets eaten by an eagle.
How big do those things get?
I think they had something like a seven-foot wingspan.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it says up to three-meter wingspan.
joe rogan
Three meters.
unidentified
Nine feet.
Is that the biggest animal that has flight?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Imagine the pterodactyl days.
What in the fuck was that like?
Yeah.
Giant flying lizards.
greg fitzsimmons
That's fun.
joe rogan
That are carnivores.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
Can you imagine?
Here it is.
Whoa.
jamie vernon
It's the largest ever.
joe rogan
Well, that sounds like Quetzalcoatl, which is the...
That's that Aztec god.
Q-U-E-T-Z-A-L-C-O-A-T-L-U-S. Quetzalcoatlus?
Quetzalcoatl was that...
That flying god of the Aztecs.
Can you just go back up to that?
I was reading that top part right there.
unidentified
I think it was.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A pterodactyl petrosaur from the late Cretaceous of North America.
Largest known flying animal to have ever lived.
So that is like probably, they probably named it after Quetzalcoatl, which was the, see if you find that word, Quetzalcoatl, because I think that's what that was.
It was an Aztec god.
That was like a bird.
greg fitzsimmons
Wingspan of 36 feet.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
greg fitzsimmons
36 feet!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
What the fuck?
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, that's a plane.
joe rogan
Now, see, this is a god, the feathered serpent.
A name for the feathered serpent deity of the ancient Mesopotamian, Mesoamerican culture.
I wonder if there was ever a time where human beings and that petrosaur thing coincided.
When was that petrosaur?
When did that thing go extinct?
That Quetzalcoatlus.
Can you imagine if there was ancient human, you know, Neanderthals or whatever, Australopithecus, and you're looking up, you see a 35-foot bird.
Fuck you, man!
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
jamie vernon
The bones were discovered in Texas.
That's the same right area.
joe rogan
Of course.
Texans, before the Comanches, they had giant flying dinosaurs.
Goddamn.
jamie vernon
Scan fast for a time period.
Doesn't say right off the top for some reason.
joe rogan
Just...
Whatever it was.
jamie vernon
Late Cretaceous?
I don't know.
joe rogan
What's that?
When is that?
jamie vernon
That's a long time ago.
joe rogan
Is that 10 million years?
What is that?
jamie vernon
I think it says 100 to 66 million.
joe rogan
Oh!
So that's way before even the Yucatan impact that killed the dinosaurs.
That was 65 million years ago.
jamie vernon
Yeah, since the climate was warmer than now, even then.
joe rogan
What's the biggest thing that lived, that flew while people were alive?
You think it was that host eagle?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You said that was three meters, right?
That's nine feet?
By the way, fuck that too.
Imagine a nine foot wide thing.
greg fitzsimmons
I don't take your kid easily.
joe rogan
I don't take a small kid.
Maybe a pretty big kid.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They carry deer away.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, they pull goats off the side of cliffs and not even big ones.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Have you ever seen that Golden Eagles do that?
Golden Eagles are the biggest North American eagles.
And I actually think bald eagles have done this as well.
And they swoop down and they grab these sheep that are trying to climb their way up to the top of these mountains.
They pull them off and they drop them on the rocks.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And watch them smash.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
And sometimes they ride them down to the ground.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Dude!
There's one video of this one eagle.
He grabs ahold of this sheep and pulls it off the side of this wall, and as it's going down, the eagle's hanging on, so the eagle hits the ground with it and bounces it, and oh my god, it's fucking madness.
It's madness.
greg fitzsimmons
That's beautiful.
joe rogan
Yeah, the eagle's fine.
greg fitzsimmons
Fine.
joe rogan
Eagle fell, bounced, had this goat hit it in the head, bounced.
Fine.
The end flies away.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Crazy flexible bones that they have.
greg fitzsimmons
Shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, we're so lucky.
We have one thing to worry about right now, other than normal shit that everybody has to worry about all the time in life.
One new thing.
And everything just hits to a halt.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One new thing.
Like, whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
The whole world changes.
One new thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
jamie vernon
Albatross has a bigger wingspan than the host eagle.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
It's about the same.
Maybe it says it's 11 feet.
joe rogan
Jesus.
Albatross, the ones that are alive right now?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
That's...
joe rogan
What do they eat?
Mostly fish, right?
jamie vernon
And this even says a condor with a 24-foot wingspan.
Fuck.
28 million years ago.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
Sorry.
greg fitzsimmons
I think albatross, they go out to sea for fucking weeks.
joe rogan
What do they do, just dive in and eat fish?
greg fitzsimmons
Dive and eat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at that.
Whoa.
Yeah, that would be just more annoying than anything.
I don't think they could kill you.
But an eagle's got a face like a bolt cutter.
jamie vernon
As I was digging through, a couple articles even speculated if those giant Quetzalcoatl things, if they were too big to even fly, maybe.
They could have been like giant ostrich-type bird, dinosaur-type things.
joe rogan
Yeah, they only have the bones, right?
Just something that just got too big for its wings.
Maybe fly like a chicken.
Chickens can fly like 10 feet or something like that.
They just kind of run and fly at the same time.
They get a little air.
greg fitzsimmons
No, I think about, like, my friend had a parrot when I was a kid.
Parrot or parakeet, I don't know, birds, but it scared the shit out of me.
Like, I would reach into the cage just to, like, you know, you try to stick your finger in its belly so it steps on your finger, but it bites you instead.
And I remember being a full-sized human being scared of this.
Take that and expand it by a thousand.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's flying above you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Birds can scare the shit out of you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They can pull a fucking salmon out of a flowing river with their feet and fly away with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine even grabbing a salmon.
Imagine just dunking your hand into a river and pulling a salmon out.
No.
Now imagine doing it while you're flying in.
You snatch it, pull it out of the river, and then fly away with it.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And that's our national bird.
It's our national animal.
greg fitzsimmons
It's a pretty cool national animal.
joe rogan
I guess.
It's a ruthless cunt of a flying dinosaur.
Wouldn't it be better if we had something compassionate?
jamie vernon
Shoebills are close.
joe rogan
Oh, they're real close.
Shoebills are super dangerous.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Well, that is an ancient, predatory, carnivorous dinosaur that happens to still be alive.
Why is that guy getting close to it with his kid?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, don't do that.
Please don't do that.
jamie vernon
Nothing bad happens in this, but...
joe rogan
Okay.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I just...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I could imagine if that thing was pissed off at you.
Whoa, he's gonna touch it?
jamie vernon
I mean, I don't think anything bad happens, but...
joe rogan
Bro.
That's the kind of people that get eaten.
I think we're fine.
I think we're fine.
I'm gonna bend over and pull up my pants.
There are some animals that are...
There's a really aggressive bird, a cassoway, I think it's called.
And this lady's filming on the beach in Australia.
She's like, oh, look.
Look at the cool birds.
And the bird starts going after her.
They'll come fuck you.
What is it?
jamie vernon
A balanepsis rex.
joe rogan
Shoebill stork fax.
That's what it's called.
Balanexis rex.
It's a rex.
It's a fucking dinosaur.
Look at that face.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Look at that one right there.
Look at that one.
Look at that image.
What in the fuck is that?
greg fitzsimmons
That's flightless, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it gets to five feet tall, and it snatches fish and lizards and all kinds of other things.
It swallows them whole.
There's a fantastic documentary that BBC put out years ago about the Congo, and the shoebill lives in the Congo, and in the Congo the shoebill eats this fish that comes out of the land and then crawls across the land until it can find another pond and then slides into that pond.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the shoebills eating that thing, and you're like, what am I seeing?
I'm seeing a battle between two prehistoric animals.
That's amazing.
A fish that can swim and then climb out of the water and walk on the ground and then jump in a new pond.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
That's the missing link for evolution.
The first fish to get out of the water.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, all these animals adapt when they're in the Congo.
What are you looking at here, Jamie?
That's weird.
jamie vernon
Shoebill claws.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what it was on the bottom?
They're all, I mean, they're all adapting to their environment.
They found in the Congo, there's a, I think it's called a diker.
It's a specific type of antelope.
But because they've been in this, it used to, what they think is, at least parts of the Congo, that, if I don't, I hope I'm not fucking this up, but I believe what it was, was it used to be grasslands.
And then the climate changed.
It became rainforests.
And a lot of animals, they were like plains animals, were stuck in the Congo, in the rainforest, and they had to adapt.
So you'll see these herds of ungulates running through the Congo, like these different kinds of antelopes running through the swampy waters.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're like, what are those things doing here?
And then there's other antelopes like these duikers that actually can swim.
So they can swim underwater as much as a hundred meters.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
A hundred meters underwater.
unidentified
Yeah.
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah.
They can hold their breath and they eat fish.
greg fitzsimmons
That's wild.
joe rogan
What?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're adapting.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they're figuring out how to get, see if you can find that thing.
I think it's, I don't remember how to spell it.
greg fitzsimmons
It's going to be us in five years.
joe rogan
These little, look at that, what is that bird doing?
No, no, no.
No, that's not it.
A diker's an antelope, dude.
It's not a bird.
And it's not in the ocean.
That's a tuna.
It's in the Congo.
Oh, Jimmy, you're high.
jamie vernon
Really stuck on that shoe bill fucking around with the stuff.
Those fucking feet freaked me out.
joe rogan
Wait.
You're like, is it this?
I'm like, bro, that's a sandwich.
greg fitzsimmons
That's the 96 Olympics.
joe rogan
It's an antelope.
I think it's called a diker.
I don't know how to spell it.
I don't think it's D-I-K-E-R. But it's a small antelope-like creature that lives in Africa.
greg fitzsimmons
Try under lesbian.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have these little short legs, and they swim.
greg fitzsimmons
By the way, today's a big day, Joe.
unidentified
What is today?
greg fitzsimmons
It's my 20th appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience.
joe rogan
Yeah, you were telling me that.
That's crazy.
unidentified
20 times.
joe rogan
Dude, that's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
Today's April Fools.
Be very careful.
A lot of motherfuckers out there playing that stupid game.
greg fitzsimmons
I was going to tell you a crazy fucking story.
I was driving up here thinking, I've got to come up with something funny.
joe rogan
The Gemsbach?
Oh yeah, that's another animal that can swim.
greg fitzsimmons
In the ocean?
joe rogan
Yeah, they swim.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think that's called a Gemsbuck, is that what that one's called?
I think, spell it...
Oh, you got D-U-I-K-E-R? Okay.
It's going to take a long time to find video of it swimming.
But this documentary was just showing how sometimes things just change and these animals get fucked.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're just not supposed to be there.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I think part of it was they were locating things like elephants in the parts of the Congo, too, that were also in the rainforest.
And they're like, what the fuck are these things doing here?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's really interesting, man.
You know, we're just real fortunate that we're in a place that is fairly calm with very few monsters.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But there's spots in the world where, unfortunately, your civilization really never had a chance to get a foothold because it was always dealing with defense.
There was not enough time to relax to really build up a good, stout civilization.
Because everything was just about acquiring food and making sure you don't get eaten by crocodiles.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, that's why it's kind of cool that we have mountain lions, but not a lot.
We can literally count the number of mountain lions we have in Los Angeles, but they're fucking there.
joe rogan
They're there, dude.
They're real, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
It kind of keeps you honest a little bit.
I think it's good.
No matter what city you're in, there should be a fucking bear.
Just one bear.
joe rogan
Just a little something to let you know.
There's a food chain.
Respect it.
We think we just get food from the store.
No, that's what's confusing about all this.
Food does not come from the store.
Food comes from living things, either vegetables and fruits or animals.
That's food.
The store is this weird thing that we invented.
You've got to figure out how to get food.
You can't rely on the store.
And one thing that's happened is there's a giant uptick of people looking into hunting licenses and people watching videos on hunting and how to get started.
greg fitzsimmons
Since Corona?
joe rogan
Yes, and homesteading.
A lot of people that are looking to buy plots of land and raise rabbits for food and raise chickens and raise pigs and there's a lot of videos that are popping up on YouTube now about homesteading where people are like, hey, how do we fucking avoid this?
You buy a patch of land, you get a few families to chip in, you all build houses on that land or you buy houses that are close enough to each other that you could share land and you fucking grow food.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You grow food and make sure that you don't need anybody.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
You can get all your food from your yard.
That can be done, man.
greg fitzsimmons
This sounds so out there, but that's literally how 95% of the world lives.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And not only that, but how 99.9% of the world lived until the last couple of hundred years.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, this is how you're supposed to.
You're supposed to have food nearby, man.
You're supposed to have something nearby.
My grandfather always had a garden.
Always had a garden.
Always had a garden.
He would go back there and he would check his tomatoes.
He knew where everything was.
My peppers are coming in.
He would always have this little thing, this spot over here for this kind of plant and this kind of food.
He would grow spices and all kinds of shit.
Those old school immigrant people that came over here back when food was hard to get, they knew how to make sure you have something.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Make sure you have a, you know, you can stay alive with your garden, you know?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, especially the chickens.
You can't get eggs.
We went shopping last night.
There's no eggs.
joe rogan
It's hard.
Yeah, these cunty coyotes killed all my fucking chickens, or I'd get some eggs for you.
greg fitzsimmons
That sucks.
joe rogan
But the thing is about rebuilding, we've talked about this, when you rebuild the shelter, the chicken shelter, and put new chickens in there, now you're a target.
Like, they know where meat is, and they know a bonanza of meat.
They ate nine chickens in one day, in one sitting.
They killed nine chickens.
It was just a...
This fucking, like, just disgusting pile of feathers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where all the chickens were slaughtered.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the hole, like, pulled, the mesh was pulled out, and they just jumped in there and just, one at a time, killed all the chickens.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
I don't want that shit around my house.
That's the thing.
It's like if you're going to have coyotes targeting your house, like looking at your house as a source of food, if you're doing that by keeping chickens, you're going to have more coyote interactions.
And either you're cool with that or you're kind of creeped out by it.
I'm kind of creeped out by it.
Especially when I'm high.
I tied a dead chicken to a, one of the coyotes killed a chicken before I chased it out.
I tied a chicken to a pot, like a pot that you plant plants in, you know, pottery.
And I tied it down and I tied it in and I set it 30 yards from my balcony.
And I got a range finder and I ranged all these different spots in the yard and I sat up there for hours with a bow.
Trying to kill a coyote.
I'm like, come on, baby.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, he's right there.
Go get your chicken.
greg fitzsimmons
You were pissed.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was having war with him.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was having war.
I was going to kill him and I was going to throw him over the fence.
Like, let these cunts know.
Hey, I killed your friend.
I'll kill you too.
greg fitzsimmons
You should have chewed its head off.
joe rogan
I was thinking about eating some of it and then shitting into a bag and throwing the bag over the hill.
I ate a piece of your friend, you fucks.
Yeah.
I'm not a fan.
I like having them around.
It's cool to hear them at night, but I don't want them thinking of my animals and my dog or my cat or anything like that as a food source, because that's what they do.
greg fitzsimmons
Sounds like you cared about these chickens.
Did they become like pets?
joe rogan
They're like pets, but not.
Marshall's like...
You met Marshall.
He's out there right now.
He's like family.
That little sweetie.
He's one of my kids.
He's my buddy.
He's like a full-grown three-year-old cuddle bunny.
He's the sweetest dog in the world.
Like, that's very different than a chicken.
My relationship with a chicken is not that deep.
Like, that dog is...
I love that dog.
He's my buddy.
Like, every time I see him, I'm like, dude!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's like...
He comes over with a toy in his mouth, and he's just a bundle of love.
He loves everybody, too.
Everybody he meets, he just loves everybody.
Chickens are not like that, man.
They're not that valuable.
Chickens are independent little cunts.
greg fitzsimmons
I was walking my dogs this morning, and some fucking asshole...
He goes, can I pet your dog?
I'm like, let me check.
Let me check the news.
No!
No, you can't rub your fucking germy hands on my dog.
joe rogan
That's gonna come home to your house.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, you're not supposed to do that right now, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Nope.
joe rogan
Not supposed to let some dude just touch you.
Some guy wanted to shake my hand at the grocery store the week of the whole thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I shook his hand.
I didn't want to be rude.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
But I felt weird about it.
I was like, oh, are we still shaking hands?
Like, when do we stop doing this?
That was the week that everybody went crazy and started buying shit.
greg fitzsimmons
It is crazy, too, because there's no shortage of food.
joe rogan
No.
No, the supply chain hasn't changed.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Especially the toilet paper thing became totally random.
It's like one asshole filled up his shopping cart with toilet paper, and then somebody saw him do that, and somebody else saw him do that, and they all just decided it was a panic on toilet paper.
joe rogan
Doesn't make any sense.
It's almost like it was perpetrated by a toilet paper industry.
greg fitzsimmons
Ah.
joe rogan
Do you know how much money you would save if you had a bidet?
Or those little tushy ones that we had that was a sponsor?
I think that was like, what did Red Band say it cost?
unidentified
79 bucks.
joe rogan
$79.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
That's for the cold water one.
joe rogan
The one that, yeah, and a few extra bucks, you get it heated up.
But just take it like a seal, like a Navy seal.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Get your cold water in your asshole.
Yes, sir!
greg fitzsimmons
Woo!
Now, if I'm going to do that, because I looked online, and you can't get the cheap ones anywhere.
The cold water ones are sold out.
But they did have some high-end ones.
And I was thinking, like, you shit every day.
joe rogan
Yeah, every day.
greg fitzsimmons
You know, I'm going to get it in my house.
I'll have it for the rest of my life.
Why not go big and just get one that, like, some of them have remote controls where you can, like, you can change the direction of it?
joe rogan
Have you ever taken a shit here?
greg fitzsimmons
You told me to use it once, but I didn't do it.
joe rogan
Don't be scared.
It's wonderful.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
It's wonderful.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yours has probably got a fucking...
Tanning bed in it.
It doesn't do that, but it does.
joe rogan
You can direct, make it a stronger wave, a lighter wave.
You can direct it into the hole itself.
You can aim it.
Right in the hole.
It makes you have to shit more.
Like when it goes up the hole, your body's like, oh yeah, I got some extra for you.
It's like it loosens everything up.
greg fitzsimmons
Does it throw a little hemorrhoidal lotion on there for me if I need it?
joe rogan
No, it doesn't.
You gotta do that yourself.
But the point is you're saving a lot of money in toilet paper.
greg fitzsimmons
Will it bleach my asshole?
joe rogan
It cleans it.
I don't think it's gonna bleach it.
greg fitzsimmons
That'd be a nice little option though.
joe rogan
I don't.
greg fitzsimmons
Extra button.
joe rogan
I don't think you need to worry about that in these trying times.
Like if you get Botox now, you're an asshole.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, this doctor could be in an emergency room helping COVID-19 patients.
You're like, I'm seeing there's some movement.
There's some movement right here.
Like, watch.
Watch.
Look, I'm shocked!
greg fitzsimmons
Meanwhile, he's got three people hacking up in the waiting room.
joe rogan
I know.
Come on.
Well, this article in The Atlantic was really disturbing where they were saying that if the people that are going in to find out if they have COVID, they can't even give them—this was in New York—they couldn't even give them a test because they didn't meet a certain criteria.
And if they didn't have it before, they definitely have it now.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
Because there's other people in this waiting room, and they're all waiting, and they're all sick and coughing.
Like, fucking Christ.
greg fitzsimmons
So what's the point at which you're supposed to go in?
joe rogan
Because— Just get it?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I mean, what's the point where you should go to the doctor versus sit it out and try to...
Because they say 90% of the people that come in have pneumonia or the flu.
joe rogan
They don't have COVID. Well, that's the thing is that the flu is still here, right?
So it's happening at the same time as the flu.
But it's a new thing, obviously.
We know what to do with the flu.
You can give people Tamiflu.
You can get a flu shot.
We had Dr. Hotez explain how even if you get a flu shot from the wrong kind of flu, if they make a vaccine, it still has enough of...
Right.
different components.
And so it can mitigate some of the components, even if it's not the perfect vaccine for that virus.
So it still protects you somewhat, protects you better than not having anything.
So that's the flu.
Like there's a bunch of shit with this thing.
They're like, we don't, we don't know.
We really don't know.
We don't know what's going on.
I mean, people talk about all these different treatments that may or may not be effective, but this is too new.
greg fitzsimmons
For the most part, you really just need a ventilator.
I mean, that's the only thing you would need medical care for, right?
Because they can't do much for you otherwise.
joe rogan
Well, there's been some talk about Z-packs, but there's no definitive evidence.
When they run studies like that, it takes a long-ass time.
If they're doing double-blind, placebo-controlled studies, trying to find out what does what and what's effective for what.
Any kind of clinical trial, I think, takes months, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no, a year.
It's a year.
joe rogan
Is it?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, because they think they've already identified some vaccines, but they said for it to be, you know...
If you don't test it, you could put it out and kill as many people with the vaccine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck.
joe rogan
I know.
And at the same time, Tiger King becomes the number one show in the world.
At the same time, a documentary on wild tigers that are in captivity at this crazy dude's place, who's married to two other crazy dudes, who's in a battle with this lady who might have fed her ex-husband to tigers.
greg fitzsimmons
Alright, don't tell me I haven't seen it yet.
joe rogan
Spoiler alert!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think, Jamie?
Did that lady feed her husband to the tiger?
If you had a million dollars to bet.
jamie vernon
They reopened the case yesterday.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Or they're looking back into it.
joe rogan
They're looking into it.
jamie vernon
So maybe, I don't know.
joe rogan
Bro, if you have a husband that's a millionaire and you raised tigers and then that guy disappears and no one knows where he is, if that happens, I think people should be suspicious.
They'd be like, hmm, where is he?
You don't know where he is at all?
Huh.
He just went away.
Huh.
How many tigers do you have?
You have a hundred tigers?
Can we see your tigers?
jamie vernon
Why isn't the documentary about that?
greg fitzsimmons
A couple words with your tigers.
joe rogan
Trank your tigers and examine their shit and start running through labs like, this human shit here.
This is human.
You ate a human.
This tiger ate a human.
Oh my god, this lady fed her fucking husband to tigers.
All she needs is a meat grinder.
She must have a meat grinder.
That's all she needs.
She throws the husband in the meat grinder, throws the piles out there where the tigers eat, and they just tear them apart.
greg fitzsimmons
Like Scarface.
joe rogan
In 97, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
I think that was a real thing with drug dealers, was getting a tiger for that reason.
joe rogan
Oh, well that's always been a thing with people with pigs.
That was in that movie Snatch.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
unidentified
Greedy pigs.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy with the crazy glasses.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who is that dude?
That dude from the movie Snatch?
That guy's amazing.
We've talked about him before.
greg fitzsimmons
God, I gotta rewatch that movie.
joe rogan
That was a good fucking movie.
He had a cup of tea and these big ass thick glasses and just a totally different kind of gangster.
jamie vernon
His name is Alan Ford.
joe rogan
Alan Ford, you fucking legend, sir.
Yeah, that guy's amazing.
There's a new Guy Ritchie movie out right now, right?
What is it called?
jamie vernon
The Gentleman, I believe.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
It was supposed to be in the movie theaters, but then the COVID hits.
Dude, he's one of my all-time favorite people I've ever talked to.
Guy Ritchie's an interesting guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, you had him in?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he changed my mind about suits.
He's so passionate about suits.
greg fitzsimmons
About wearing suits?
joe rogan
Owning a suit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The way you own it.
Oh, is this the new movie?
jamie vernon
Matthew McConaughey.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
I'll take it.
Matthew McConaughey and Hugh Grant.
greg fitzsimmons
Hugh Grant playing a bad guy?
joe rogan
Why not?
greg fitzsimmons
I love it.
joe rogan
I have never seen a Guy Ritchie movie that I didn't love.
Never one.
They're all amazing.
unidentified
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.
greg fitzsimmons
That was great.
What was the one about the British...
Gangsters that move to Spain, and they're retired, and then the guy makes them come back in.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
What was that?
What one was that?
greg fitzsimmons
That was fucking great.
joe rogan
Let's see his thing here.
jamie vernon
Rock and Rolla, maybe?
joe rogan
Oh, I think that was it.
Was that Rock and Rolla?
That was 2008. I know, I don't remember that.
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
I never saw Man from Uncle...
These are all his movies?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Anyway, The Gentleman.
So it was supposed to be released...
Was it released?
jamie vernon
I think it did come out actually, but it wasn't out for very long.
joe rogan
And then the thing hit.
That's one cool thing.
Apple TV is letting you buy new movies.
You could buy the movies that are supposed to be out in the movie theater.
You could rent them on Apple TV. Not all of them, but enough to be like, oh shit, this is a movie movie.
greg fitzsimmons
It's out right now.
That's awesome.
joe rogan
But there's so many movies.
That's the thing that you're realizing, too.
If there's ever been a time in human history where you could really entertain yourself without having to go anywhere, it's now.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
Before, you'd have to go to the DVD store and get the fucking COVID-infected blockbuster boxes where they'd all be...
Did you spray it?
Did you spray it good?
And then maybe some of the spray would get into the tape and it would ruin it.
You'd get the VHS home and be like, fuck!
The domestic box office brought in $5,179 for the week of March 20-26.
Holy shit.
$5,000 down 100% from the $204,193,406 the same week a year ago.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
It was down 100%.
Damn, that's a big loss.
But the restaurant industry, I think, probably took the biggest loss, right?
Or the bars.
Bars and restaurants probably took, and comedy clubs, took the biggest loss.
greg fitzsimmons
Comedy clubs, theaters?
joe rogan
Sure.
Well, movie theaters and regular theaters, too, right?
All theaters.
Anything performing.
greg fitzsimmons
Diaz freaked me out.
I was talking to him on the phone yesterday, and he's like, he's like, dog, you think you're going to be playing the funny bone in St. Louis?
unidentified
No.
greg fitzsimmons
Chris Rock's gonna be playing that fucking club this year.
Like, all the theater acts are gonna come down to clubs because nobody's gonna be coming out.
joe rogan
It's very possible.
We don't know how long this is going to last, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Or how long people's apprehension about getting into a group is going to last.
Even if it clears up next month, it's still going to be a long time before people are comfortable.
joe rogan
Well, this also showed people, people that are paying attention to numbers, it showed people the devastation the flu does every year.
Until this happened, I had no idea that many people were dying every year from the flu.
That's an eye-opener.
That alone makes you want to wash your hands more.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And just kind of be careful when people are coughing.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, malaria is still, I think, the number one killer in the world.
joe rogan
They think malaria has killed...
Did we figure out...
This has come up about four different times, and every time, I forget whether or not the statistic is bullshit, but I think they think half of all the people have died ever.
That was the theory.
We're killed by malaria.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
So if you took all the people that have ever died, like 10 billion people that have ever died, 5 billion died from malaria.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
That's the number.
greg fitzsimmons
It's a shitty way to die, too.
joe rogan
Bro.
My friend Justin Wren has gotten it three times.
He runs the Fight for the Forgotten Charity, going to the Congo and building wells for the Pygmies.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
He's been there.
He's a fighter.
He fought for the UFC and...
I don't remember exactly how he initially made his trip over to the Congo, but he fell in love with these pygmy people and started helping them, trying to figure out how to get them wells built and fresh water, because a lot of their problems were these diseases that we're getting from pathogens in the water.
Because they're just stagnant water, no way to fix it.
And so he developed this charity, Fight for the Forgotten, and started going back and forth over there.
But in the meantime, he's gotten malaria three different times.
One time he got sick and the malaria came back.
So it was like, it wasn't even, I'm pretty sure he doesn't even think he was reinfected.
He thinks it rekindled inside of his body when he got sick.
His immune system was down and there was like a hint of malaria still in his body and it reignited.
That's what fucked me up too, paying attention to this.
We have viruses all the time in our body that are just kind of duking it out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
There's a war being waged.
joe rogan
And that the common cold is also a type of coronavirus.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, is that right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Make sure that's true.
jamie vernon
Closer to four to five percent, I think, of the total people ever.
joe rogan
Four or five percent?
jamie vernon
Somewhere between four and five percent.
joe rogan
Oh, well, that's way different than 50. The limit doesn't sound as good.
The other one sounds better.
Let's keep lying.
greg fitzsimmons
Five percent is a lot.
It's still a phenomenal amount.
joe rogan
There's still a lot of all the people that have died ever.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's not like it's gone down.
I mean, unless they get rid of mosquitoes.
There will always be.
And I think that is a possibility.
joe rogan
That's something they've talked about doing, is engineering some new kind of mosquito that doesn't breed, or some mosquito that kills other mosquitoes, or something along those lines.
They've had a couple of different things that they've tried to figure out how to do.
But the problem is, once you do that, You know, you let that cat out of the bag.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
You kill all the mosquitoes, then you find out the mosquitoes with a glue that holds the whole thing together.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, the lizards were eating the mosquitoes and the cats were eating the lizards.
joe rogan
Who knows what kind of shit could go down if you got rid of mosquitoes.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they do carry a lot of disgusting things.
They're dirty blood.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The dirty saliva.
They'd sting you and give you a malaria disease.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, people were worried.
Remember when AIDS first came out?
People were worried that mosquitoes were going to pass it around.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, definitely.
People were like, what?
They carry malaria?
Why the fuck can't they carry that?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, that's the thing about all these pandemics is like, you know, coronavirus is actually kind of a pussy.
I mean, it's easy to kill.
There's other viruses which are much tougher, but it has a very thin membrane.
It's a fatty membrane that goes over it.
And, you know, foam from soap.
By the way, make sure when you wash your hands, get a lot of foam going.
That's actually the thing that kills the corona.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Foam.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, foam it up.
And get your thumbs, for God's sake.
Don't forget your goddamn thumbs.
joe rogan
It's a new strain of coronavirus not previously seen in humans.
For other strains of coronavirus are very common.
It usually only cause mild symptoms like the common cold.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What were we just talking about?
We were talking about washing hands.
greg fitzsimmons
Malaria.
joe rogan
Malaria.
Coronavirus.
greg fitzsimmons
That it's a pussy?
joe rogan
It's kind of easy to kill?
That's what it was.
Because there was this other thing that I talked about with Osterholm that scared me way more than that.
I mean, it's scary, for sure.
Don't get me wrong.
But there's this chronic wasting disease that they found in deer, and it's 100% fatal.
And it's a prion disease, the same kind of disease as mad cow disease was.
And the same as mad cow disease made the jump to humans, then it became very dangerous.
And some people to this day, they can't give blood because they were alive eating blood.
Cheeseburgers during the mad cow days.
Maybe they've released that.
I don't know.
But for a long time they couldn't give blood because the idea would be that you still have these prions in your system.
They took these surgical instruments that they used on patients who died of mad cow disease and they ran these surgical instruments through these sanitization machines.
The sanitizing process three times.
Three times.
Like a thousand degree temperature.
Couldn't kill it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Three times, still had living prions on the surgical equipment.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn!
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And all we gotta do is soap it up, sing happy birthday twice, done.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is nothing in comparison to something that could happen to us if chronic wasting disease ever made the leap from deer to human.
greg fitzsimmons
Shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very spooky.
And I've...
I had my friend Doug Dern and Brian...
What's his name again?
greg fitzsimmons
Richard...
joe rogan
Don't guess.
Richards?
I think you're right.
Who's a biologist, who's explained, and a wildlife expert, explained all of it to us.
Like, what it is, how it's happened, how it's spread, it's spreading from deer, and to the end is horrific.
We watched a video of one of them where they're wasting away and they're spitting...
So this fluid that's coming out of their body is contaminated and then deer will come along and eat the leaves that have that prion on it and take it in and then it'll get chronic wasting disease and then it'll rot away and it's spitting out the stuff and then other deer eating it.
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Dude, it's horrific.
And it's 100% fatal.
So think about what we've got, that your immune system, you know, for the vast majority of the people is going to fight off.
It's tragic, the people that don't, not diminishing that at all.
That's not what I'm saying.
But there's a giant difference between something that Idris Elba gets and shows no weaknesses, shows no symptoms rather, or Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson get it and they get over it.
It's rough, but they get over it and they survive.
Versus prions.
They kill 100% of all the deer that they infect.
They're all dead.
And they waste away.
They waste away to nothing.
It's ugly.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
And they're like, look, this guy was sounding the warning bell.
He was like, these have made the jump to mice.
And the prions have made the jump from animals to people.
This is totally possible.
This can happen.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's like right now, it's like this like silent thing that they're just keeping an eye on and it's spreading across the country and people don't know.
Like there's places where people have stopped eating deer meat.
And there's checkpoints.
We have to bring the deer in, like Wisconsin, where my friend Doug lives, where they bring the deer in, they have to test them.
Before you can eat this deer, you have to test it for CWD. And the thing is, it hasn't made the jump to people, but who's going to take that risk?
You're going to eat this deer sausage that came from a deer that has CWD, but it's never made the jump to people, so have the sausage.
You're like, what?
I'm not eating that.
The thing definitely had it.
It was definitely positive.
Because a lot of times they're positive for like a year.
So they're running around like looking like a regular deer and you shoot it and you cook it and eat it and you're eating the prions.
They just don't affect your brain yet.
About 7,000 to 15,000 animals infected with CWD are eaten each year.
And that number could rise by 20% annually according to the Alliance for Public Wildlife, which Osterholm cited in his testimony.
Scientists can't say for sure that CWD will cross over and infect humans, but as time goes on and more infected meat is consumed, the likelihood increases, Osterholm said.
It's like a throw at the genetic roulette table, he said.
Fuck that.
Yeah.
What if that gets into the cows?
What if that gets into your cheeseburger?
This is maybe what the whole vegan movement's about.
Maybe they're trying to protect us from an ultimate attack.
What if that's the only people that survive?
greg fitzsimmons
Can you imagine how annoying the earth will become?
Everybody will be thin and...
joe rogan
I know.
Super self-righteous.
All the guys would have to have man buns.
You have to.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, meat eaters would get a Velcro man bun and put it on just to get through security.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to.
You couldn't eat meat anymore.
Everybody was dying of chronic wasting disease.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine, man.
Again, these are possible.
There's been a bunch of different horrific...
greg fitzsimmons
There's been 15 pandemics, they say, in the last 300 years?
No, more than that.
3,000 years.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
There have been more than that, I'm sure.
There's been a bunch recently.
We were reading them off recently, like ones that were considered pandemic.
H1N1 was considered pandemic.
greg fitzsimmons
There was 15 of something.
Maybe it's not a pandemic then.
joe rogan
H1N1, what was the number again, Jamie?
It was like more than 50,000 dead in this country.
greg fitzsimmons
In this country?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
No!
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Well, that's this country.
jamie vernon
Total.
joe rogan
Total in the world?
But are you sure that's America or the rest of the world?
jamie vernon
The very next thing below it says estimated 151 to 575,000 people died during the first year.
joe rogan
Okay, so 575,000 in the world, but only 18,000 in America?
What was the one that got the big number?
If I'm wrong about H1N1, there was one that had a really large number where you're like, what?
Remember I read you those quotes the other day?
Did we ever figure out if those are real?
There was one...
Okay, yeah total US cases, oh that's what it is.
There's the one from, death rates range from 3 to 33 percent.
Swine flu, 12,469 deaths in the United States according to CDC from April 2009 to April 2010. What about the 2017 to 2018 H2N3? That one it says killed, it says killed 61,000 Americans, is that the one?
H2N3 from 2017, but again...
jamie vernon
That's in 1968. Is it?
joe rogan
It says 17 to 18. No, H2N3. Oh, sorry.
Did I say it wrong?
jamie vernon
No, no.
I'm looking at one that's just dyslexic back the other way.
joe rogan
Estimated infected 894,000 people got the flu.
Overall death rate was 7.5% with a peak in January 2018 of 10.8% fatality rate.
greg fitzsimmons
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know if that's true though.
This is a text that a doctor sent me, who's a wise man, but we have done zero research.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
So that's why I'm trying to find out.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, 10% I think is a death rate for Corona, isn't it?
Oh no, it's about 2%.
joe rogan
That was what it was in Italy.
jamie vernon
I think that's the influenza A.
joe rogan
Influenza A.
jamie vernon
It's H3N2.
joe rogan
And how many people did that kill?
greg fitzsimmons
So how come there wasn't social distancing and all this stuff for...
joe rogan
I think the idea is that the flu is something we're prepared for.
We have flu shots.
We have Tamiflu.
We're prepared for someone getting a bad case of the flu.
We're prepared for the flu.
This is something that nobody saw coming.
It directly affects your respiratory system.
They said Dr. Hotez yesterday was trying to explain that it was basically five times more deadly than the flu and five times more contagious.
greg fitzsimmons
Okay.
joe rogan
So it's a perfect combination, and a great number of people are asymptomatic.
So they get it and nothing happens.
greg fitzsimmons
It spreads more.
joe rogan
And they spread it, and then the people that it infects, it infects a lot of people from them, and it is really bad for the people that it's really bad for.
It's weird.
And this is one of the things that he was kind of highlighting, that it's a very strange one.
Okay.
Influenza has caused up to 57,300 deaths and sickened up to 41.3 million people, according to new estimates.
greg fitzsimmons
In the last year?
jamie vernon
This was posted a year ago, so this would have been for the previous year.
joe rogan
So that was the 2007, I think, 2017-2018 year.
That's the 57,000 year.
greg fitzsimmons
57,000 Americans died in one year of the flu?
No shit!
joe rogan
I know, that's what's crazy.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Well, you've got to think, Greg, about the numbers of us.
This is what we have to think.
The scale.
And again, this is not diminishing because people want to get upset at these kind of things.
I'm not diminishing at all the impact of the coronavirus and what's happening right now.
And it's different, for sure.
It's definitely worse.
But what I'm saying is...
Most of us weren't truly aware of the numbers of people that are affected by the flu until this.
Until you're looking at those numbers and you go, wait, wait, how many?
And then you think, we're dealing with 330 million people?
330 million or whatever it is?
And how many of them are getting sick?
How many people do you know that get really sick?
How many people do you know that are sick already and then they get really sick and then they die?
How many people do you know that have cancer and they're going through chemo and then they get sick and they die?
It happens.
There's so many fucking people.
That when the flu comes along, anyone that catches it that's in a compromised state is in trouble.
Kids are in trouble.
greg fitzsimmons
Old people are in trouble.
I was going to say, kids, I think, are more in danger of the flu than they are of corona.
And corona seems to affect the elderly more.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a different disease.
greg fitzsimmons
Although I got a friend who works in an ER in New York who says that originally it was older people and now they're seeing a lot of people in their 20s coming in and not just getting it but dying from it.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah, they think there's a bunch of different factors and they don't know what they are.
They think it might be genetic.
There might be different blood types.
It might be people that vape might have an issue.
People that smoke seem to certainly have an issue and they think maybe that's part of the reason why Italy has such a high death rate.
unidentified
Oh, right.
greg fitzsimmons
And men have a higher rate than women because they smoke more.
joe rogan
And they're gross and they don't wash their hands.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
What if it only grew on balls?
We'd be dead from just constantly having our hands on our pants.
joe rogan
Women would want us to get our balls cut off just like they do to dogs.
They're like, look, the best way to make a dog calm is you cut their balls off.
unidentified
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's a win-win, honey.
joe rogan
Yes.
That's what they're going to do to people.
That's how we're going to become those aliens that we were talking about before.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the obvious next step for people.
It's obvious.
You go from original ancient primate to human being to alien.
That's the next step.
No gender.
Chop it all off.
That's what all this gender neutral, gender this, gender that, gender norms, all the battling going on about gender that never existed before.
It's a slow slide into neutering all the males.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because that's the only way it's going to work out.
greg fitzsimmons
And we'll be happier too, Joe.
We won't have to feel the pressure of breeding anymore.
joe rogan
We're all going to listen to Lizzo.
I'm a hundred percent that bitch.
We're all going to be jokes, man.
But at least we're going to understand why each other's are mad.
Then we're going to get it.
We'll go, oh, now I know why you're mad.
I never thought that way before.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
Boy, I'm surprised you weren't more mad.
joe rogan
That was one of the funniest things.
I was watching this documentary about this lady who converted into a man.
And she was talking about the difference being once she got testosterone and they started shooting her up with testosterone and her clit started growing.
She was like, oh, okay, I get it.
She's like, now I know.
I thought the way you guys felt was like the same way we felt.
That's interesting.
She's like, I've never been this horny in my life.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You get it now.
Yeah, it's a different thing.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
The male horny is a pursuing horny.
It's an aggressive, like, I gotta take care of this!
Jesus!
Like a young kid, like an 18-year-old kid, like, fuck!
The agony.
greg fitzsimmons
Agony!
joe rogan
Agony.
greg fitzsimmons
And all-consuming.
You couldn't think about anything.
You couldn't be in a room with a nun without having a dirty thought.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And once you got your first sexual experience, once a girl, a cute young girl your age, slides your penis into her mouth, you're like, oh my Jesus, this is better than anything I've ever done by far.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm going to focus solely on this for the next two decades.
joe rogan
Dude, when your first girlfriend is rubbing your balls while you're ejaculating into her mouth, you're like, what could be better than this?
You're telling me there's a thing better?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I say horseshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because my whole life, I thought tens were tens, and now everything other than this is like a three.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So all the tens, like, oh, Star Wars is amazing.
Star Wars can suck a fucking pail of these dicks.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
Star Wars sucks compared to blowjobs.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
And for women, a nice cuddle feels like a 10, and everything else goes down to a 3. Listen, bro, some girls are dirty.
joe rogan
I remember this girl that I dated when I was 17. We were both around the same age.
She would get so wet that it would...
And this is kind of...
I shouldn't even talk about her.
Let's talk about her after she turned 18. After she turned 18...
We're both, let's make it so we're both well legal.
I was 19, she was 18, okay?
She would get so wet, it would drip down her thighs.
Her inner thigh would have like a trail of tears, like tears.
Like she was crying.
greg fitzsimmons
Was she a squirter?
joe rogan
No, she was just horny.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
She's a horny little Irish girl.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
But that's humans at 18. Yeah.
That's what it's like.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We forgot.
Dude, we're in our 50s.
We're old, broken-down jalopies.
These new kids are out there, you know?
They're fucking supercharged Corvettes.
And they're running around with boners trying to figure out life.
greg fitzsimmons
And thank God they're gonna make machinery for them soon.
They're gonna have robots out there that take care of these young men.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah!
joe rogan
No one's gonna want it.
You're gonna want a real girl.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, what about the guys who can't get a real girl?
joe rogan
Still not good enough.
Still weird.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Ex Machina.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Ex Machina.
If that guy met like a really cool chick who's like, don't you think it's a little fucked up that you want to fuck that robot lady?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, it is a little fucked up.
She's like, you know, I like you.
And he's like, you really like me?
Yeah, I like you.
I'm a person.
I like you.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
He's like, yeah, let's get the fuck out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the robot would kill both of them.
Robot would find them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kill them both.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
No emotion.
Just stab them in the heart.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you see that movie?
Ex Machina?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it was great.
joe rogan
The end scene is like, whoa.
Of course.
Why would they have emotions?
greg fitzsimmons
So well written.
unidentified
So good.
greg fitzsimmons
It was such a fucking...
Did not see that coming.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That girl?
Who's the girl that played...
The number one robot in Ex Machina.
She's fucking amazing.
greg fitzsimmons
She's really great.
joe rogan
You buy it.
Hook, line, and sinker.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hook, line, and sinker.
She's a hot robot.
greg fitzsimmons
She got in shape for that role.
joe rogan
I think she's got a fake body.
What do you mean she got in shape for that role?
greg fitzsimmons
No, it was based on her real body, wasn't it?
joe rogan
Why would it be?
You can just lay around the couch and they'll turn you into some translucent thing with wires.
You don't have to have a hot body.
Imagine if that was the only thing they couldn't do.
Like, we can give you this crazy robot-looking body.
Alicia Vikander.
What else has she been in?
greg fitzsimmons
Swedish actress.
joe rogan
What else has that lady been in?
Tomb Raider?
Oh, Jesus.
Well, Jason Bourne.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, the Danish girl.
joe rogan
Well, she's fucking amazing in that movie.
Just amazing.
But imagine if they couldn't change the shape.
Like, you gotta get down to a really sexy shape and then we'll do the rest.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Like, you're turning me into a robot?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I can't just eat chips?
No.
Sorry.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The only way we can do it is the actual shape of your body.
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta meet us halfway.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's gotta be exact.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then we'll turn you into a robot.
greg fitzsimmons
In other words, we'll freeze you at that size.
joe rogan
I think one day you're going to go over your buddy's house.
And you're going to knock on the door.
He's going to open up the door.
You're going to go inside.
And you're going to see this sexy maid in lingerie, in high heels, with like a push-up bra.
And she's hot as fuck.
And she's like, oh, hi, Greg.
And you go to your friend.
Hey, man, is she real?
And he goes...
What's real?
greg fitzsimmons
Is that boner real?
Because I see a boner right now.
joe rogan
She's a super hot porn star looking lady with the fake tits, but they're real, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's a biological thing that they've built.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, right, if they're fake tits anyway.
But these are real.
I've been married since fake tits have been around, so I don't really know what it's like to interact with fake tits.
But it seems to me that if the vagina and the tits are really the key points for making love, then who cares if the rest of the body is fake?
joe rogan
Interesting thought.
Yeah, like a fake arm.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Make it all fake.
joe rogan
But what if she's, like, jerking you off with a fake arm?
And you're like, no, no, no, use the real one.
But the fake one's more sensitive.
The real one, I get twitches sometimes.
It's just like, I don't know.
Use the real one.
greg fitzsimmons
Like the bionic man, one's real and one's...
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want to get jerked off by the fake one.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I want you to do it.
Like, do your real hand.
This is weird.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't want you using a tool on me.
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Or at least the palm.
joe rogan
You commit to letting someone use something on you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Commit to someone who wants to put a vibrator in your tank.
Like, hey, hey, hey, hey.
greg fitzsimmons
It's not real.
joe rogan
Let's just hang out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't have to use a Theragun on my taint.
unidentified
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Let's just talk.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You don't have to do that.
greg fitzsimmons
God, I remember there was this girl in college and she used to chain smoke and drink tab all day.
Everything about her was just kind of manufactured and, you know, just perfect.
Just perfect.
And I remember one time, I was over her house, and we'd kind of broken up, and she'd had a party, and she's like, hey, why don't you stick around?
I was like, nah, I'm going to head out.
She's like, no, stay, stay.
I was like, nah.
She's like, I have toys.
I'm like, all right, let's crack another beer and hang out for a little while.
joe rogan
You have toys!
That was what took you over the top?
greg fitzsimmons
Because I'd never played with toys.
And she opened up her bottom drawer of her dresser, and it was like a fucking hardware store.
All different sizes and shapes.
joe rogan
Do you remember post 9-11 when Stan Hope would travel with a suitcase filled with dildos?
greg fitzsimmons
No!
joe rogan
Yes!
greg fitzsimmons
That was his thing?
joe rogan
That was his thing.
Stan Hope would travel with a whole suitcase filled with dildos.
greg fitzsimmons
Ah, that's great!
Like a shoe salesman.
Let me show you my wares.
joe rogan
I mean, they're 100% legal to have.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he would just get checked at every TSA. They'd be like, what in the fuck?
And they'd open up his bag.
Just dicks.
Rubber dicks.
greg fitzsimmons
But what kind of girl do you go back to his hotel room and he opens up his suitcase and you just start using them?
joe rogan
Same kind of girl that loves Stanhope.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Perfect.
Perfect gal.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
You know, it's a...
greg fitzsimmons
He just wipes it down with his tie.
joe rogan
Just good old honest advertising.
greg fitzsimmons
Now listen, I see that you like me and you've come back to my room.
Can I assume I can put hardware that's been in other women inside of you right now?
joe rogan
Yes.
Sure.
Let's do it.
Let's smoke cigarettes, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Let's take some mushrooms, smoke a cigarette.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Let's make some phone calls too.
greg fitzsimmons
Filthy dildos inside of me.
joe rogan
Every time I get a phone call from Stan Hope, it's like, oh yeah, I hope he's drunk.
What do you got?
What are you doing?
Where are you at right now?
He got into yoga for a while.
No, not yoga.
Biking and hiking.
greg fitzsimmons
Hell yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, no, he did yoga too.
Yeah, he met this lady down in Tucson.
He was writing a book.
And she's...
She was a cyclist, right?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to look.
joe rogan
I remember, yeah.
Anyway, she got him to stop drinking for a while, start eating healthy, start exercising, start riding a bike, and she was getting him to do it on a regular basis.
greg fitzsimmons
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, what?
How is this possible?
I don't know if he maintained...
I always assume it was just a cleansing period before we'd hop back on the booze.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I think that makes...
Being a drunk could get boring if you never took a break.
You gotta step away once in a while, clean it up, and then feel the joy of going back down into the darkness.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You know, I talked to Ari Shafir yesterday, or I texted with Ari.
He's quarantined himself in Maryland for two weeks.
He's run out of edibles, and he's not smoking it because he thinks it makes you vulnerable to corona.
So he's doing yoga, living a clean life.
joe rogan
Good for him.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's going to do that for two weeks, and then he's going to move in with his folks, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think he just decided to...
Play it that way.
Smart move coming from New York, because that's where Michael Yeo got it.
That's where there's the most cases in the country right now.
Meanwhile, they say more cases in the United States and more deaths in the United States than China.
greg fitzsimmons
I don't buy that.
joe rogan
I was reading that this scientist was saying that is literally almost impossible.
You're dealing with a country that has three times the amount of people and it broke out there.
So there's three times the amount of people that broke out there.
It's been going on far longer than it's been going on here.
And they're saying there's less deaths in China than there are here and less people infected?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Highly suspicious.
China concealed extent of virus outbreak, U.S. intelligence says.
greg fitzsimmons
That's from Bloomberg.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That should say, duh, under it.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course they did.
greg fitzsimmons
Now, when they shoot you for reporting the truth?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, there's 21 million people missing from their cell phone database there.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
21 million.
That doesn't mean that 21 million people are dead from the virus, but let's just say it's only 10% of those people.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's say it's that.
That's 2 million people dead.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Let's say it's 10% of that.
Come on, man.
200,000 people dead?
How many people really died?
Is it really only 30,000 or whatever they said?
How many did they say died?
It's not that many.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, they've also loosened up their restrictions now, so if it didn't get...
If it didn't get that bad, it will get that bad because it'll have a boomerang now that they open it up again.
joe rogan
Well, they tried to open up movie theaters and then they immediately closed them back down again.
greg fitzsimmons
As soon as they relaxed things, the divorce rate went up, shot through the roof in China.
joe rogan
3,000 deaths.
Get the fuck out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
81,000 cases.
We have way more cases.
Only 3,000 deaths.
We have more deaths.
Come on.
Yeah.
Listen, you're dealing with a military dictatorship.
They get to decide when information gets revealed and anything that would show them to have made a mistake or to be liable or to be negligent or incompetent is going to be suppressed.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, what's North Korea saying?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
I haven't heard a peep out of North Korea.
South Korea apparently got on it very quickly.
They were saying that Germany has the best results.
They have a very, very low mortality rate.
And they don't know if it's because of the stringency of their system, the health of the people, whether it's a combination of things.
They have apparently a very good healthcare system.
But it makes sense.
Like the thing about the way Germans make cars, you know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're so well engineered.
It's like so well thought out.
North Korea claims no coronavirus cases.
Can it be trusted?
Oh yeah, send them your fucking credit card number.
greg fitzsimmons
And Kim Jong-un just shot an 11 again last week in golf.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
Oh, does he have crazy golf scores?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Does he really?
unidentified
Come on.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he claims that he got a hole in one in every hole.
unidentified
No.
greg fitzsimmons
Something crazy.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Or got like a 27 out of 18 holes.
joe rogan
Really?
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is that?
Is that like Tiger Woods world class?
greg fitzsimmons
No, no.
Tiger Woods will shoot a great round of 63. So this guy says like 17. I forget what it is, but it's like it entails several holes in one in one round.
jamie vernon
He had five holes in one.
greg fitzsimmons
In one round!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Dennis Rodman was with him.
greg fitzsimmons
That must be fun, though, to be able to just tell people every day, like, all right, print this.
I fucked nine women last night.
They were all tens.
joe rogan
He said he got a 34. A 38 under par, 34. By the way, Lil Duval, who's the best follow on Instagram right now, all day he's been posting about the coronavirus and funny memes and shit.
But he had one with the king of Thailand.
The king of Thailand is sequestered in his palace with his 18 girlfriends.
greg fitzsimmons
Is that sequestered?
joe rogan
Yes, it is.
It's just him and them and just a long bone session.
How many does he have?
greg fitzsimmons
Like, you feeling any better?
Nope!
I need a little more time.
joe rogan
The king of Thailand had a girl that was like his number one girl.
Here it is.
Oh, excuse me.
20 girlfriends.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He's in a luxury hotel with 20 girlfriends.
So he's got them all in rooms.
They can't go anywhere and stay put.
greg fitzsimmons
Is that what all his medals are for?
joe rogan
Yes, for fucking.
He won the fucking Olympics every year.
greg fitzsimmons
He stands on the podium holding his dick.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
There's just different styles of life.
But I think Lil Duval wrote Aspirations.
jamie vernon
It's the same guy that made his mistress lie at his feet while he got married.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's the same guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit!
joe rogan
Not only did he take away her military position because she was disrespectful to the queen, Wow!
Yeah, he made her bow down in front of everybody.
You can watch the video.
Click.
It says watch the video.
You should watch the video.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
As he made her his official concubine in ceremony attended by his wife.
So that was when he made her his official concubine.
That was one video, but there's another video where he took away the title, which hasn't been bestowed upon someone in a long time, apparently.
He took it away because she slipped of the tongue.
Look at this.
Official concubine.
Look at, bowing down.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, she gets a concubine crown.
joe rogan
Just imagine living like that.
Imagine the whole world, he gives her something to eat.
What is she doing?
Is she putting in her hair?
Like a leaf?
greg fitzsimmons
A little flower to put behind her ear.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's like rules, stuff you have to do.
Meanwhile, the wife's like, mm-hmm, this bitch.
What the fuck's this bitch doing?
Look at that, they all have to be on their knees in front of him.
I guess.
Lots of different ways to go.
Alright.
greg fitzsimmons
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wow.
Maybe he's got the best time of this coronavirus.
Thailand's Playboy King has taken over a luxury German hotel to isolate from the coronavirus along with a harem of 20 women.
Salute.
67. Keep on rocking in the free world, sir.
greg fitzsimmons
20 women.
joe rogan
That seems like a lot.
greg fitzsimmons
I guess it's, you know...
joe rogan
Maybe he knows something we don't know.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Whatever his diet is, I need it.
joe rogan
Well, maybe it's just like he knows it's going to take a long time.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe they get to world leaders and they go, look, we've got a couple of years.
It was not clear if his fourth wife, former flight attendant, was even with him.
greg fitzsimmons
The baller move would be to wait four days and then send for more women.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Just to blow people's minds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
With golden underwear on.
You just pose at the balcony every now and then.
You stand out at the balcony overlooking the city with a glass of champagne with golden underwear.
Just look around and you go right back in.
greg fitzsimmons
Send in some more bitches!
jamie vernon
He left Thailand.
He's in Germany.
He's in Berlin.
joe rogan
Of course.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he just left.
joe rogan
Well, Germany's the best place to be, like we were saying.
Super, super low mortality rate.
Less than one-tenth of one percent in Germany.
greg fitzsimmons
I was reading that in Scandinavia, different countries, they're all being pretty conservative about it, except for Sweden.
Which has, like, completely laxed all social distancing.
And they've got the same rates of infection as everybody else.
joe rogan
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, has it changed?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's jumped.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Sweden model, there was a curve that they showed week to week where everyone else is kind of like, this is the thing you keep hearing, flatten the curve.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Well, Sweden is a good example of how it's not flat and it's going up.
So they had, like, you know, Sweden was yellow and this country was another color and Sweden was going up where the other ones were not.
greg fitzsimmons
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a risky move.
I don't know if their fatalities are any higher, though.
greg fitzsimmons
We're going to see state by state what happens in this country, because California has been really locked down pretty early and pretty well, and there are a lot of cases in San Francisco, but...
joe rogan
Not that bad here.
greg fitzsimmons
Not bad here in LA. No, not that bad.
joe rogan
If you really stop and consider what it could be.
A lot in New York, though.
New York's rough.
Yeah.
But think about the way people, the style of life over there.
Everybody's bumping into everybody on the streets.
greg fitzsimmons
Public transportation.
joe rogan
Yep, yep, yep.
Apartment buildings, taking the elevators, hundreds of other people on the stairs.
greg fitzsimmons
City bikes.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
You're always in contact with people.
greg fitzsimmons
You're eating out way more than you're eating at home.
joe rogan
I mean, it's one of the cool things about New York City.
That's what's going to be weird coming back if people can relax.
Or if they're just now, are we going to be like this when the flu comes around again?
Like, what if another pandemic flu that does the kind of damage that that other one that we were talking about, the 2017-2018 flu, are we going to be gun-shy now?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I think I watch TV or movies and I literally have a subconscious reaction to people being close to each other.
That's how internalized it's becoming.
And that's going to stick around for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, like you see a picture of dudes like hugging each other and laughing at a bar.
You're like, what are you doing so close to each other?
unidentified
Get out!
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
Fuck!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, we're going to be rewired after this.
joe rogan
Do you think you'll get through it and go back to normal the way you think?
Or do you think there's no normal?
greg fitzsimmons
I think it depends on what you just said.
I think if there's another one that comes on the heels of this, then it's going to really reinforce it.
But if this thing clears up as...
You know, if the weather comes in and it's warm, which isn't even proven because a lot of warm weather places still have the coronavirus, but if that helps stem it for a while and it goes away within a few months, I think we'll be okay.
joe rogan
Well, dude, you're welcome to come in here anytime you want.
While we're down, if you want to do regular podcasts, let's do them all the time.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's great.
joe rogan
Just hang out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I'd love it.
joe rogan
Because one of the things that I'm enjoying, for real, enjoying over these last few weeks has been, I did a podcast with Bert, then I did a podcast with Tom, then I did a podcast with Joey, and I'm like, these are my favorite.
Like, we're all getting to hang out on a regular basis.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, it's not like these big stretches where you're going on tour in the East, and I'm going over here, and Joey's over there.
Like, we're all together.
We're almost fucking, we're 30 minutes drive from each other all the time.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's different.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
This is great.
And it's like I was saying with my family.
Family and close friends.
It's like, what's better than that in life?
joe rogan
The thing that's weird, though, is you can't hug, and you're not even shaking hands, and we're seeing each other, but we're staying all these feet apart from...
It's a little weird.
It feels a little weird in that regard, but...
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's just what it is now.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
That's what it is now, until it stops being that.
greg fitzsimmons
I know, and podcasting has to take the place of stand-up for a while, just energy-wise, creativity-wise.
joe rogan
People that are doing stand-up on the internet with no audience are out of your fucking mind.
greg fitzsimmons
People are doing that?
joe rogan
A bunch of people have done it at the Laugh Factory.
They were streaming stand-up comedy.
greg fitzsimmons
Can you hear the audience's laugh?
Is it like a Zoom where it's back and forth?
joe rogan
No, there's no audience.
greg fitzsimmons
They're just doing stand-up?
joe rogan
They're just doing stand-up.
They're basically playing guitar with no instrument.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Right.
They're masturbating.
It's comedy masturbation.
joe rogan
Well, they just are trying it out.
People at home are listening.
But it's not the same.
greg fitzsimmons
No, people want the content, but you've got to figure out...
I just started this new podcast called Sunday Papers, where I just...
You know my buddy Mike Gibbons?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
unidentified
I met Mike.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, so me and Mike do a thing where we read the Sunday paper, and we just go through each section.
Entertainment, sports, business.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
greg fitzsimmons
And we just do jokes about each section, and we have little sound effects for the paper.
joe rogan
Oh, that's great.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, so it's on my site.
It's on the FitzDog Radio site.
And it's just another reason to hang out with a good friend once a week.
joe rogan
Yeah, Tim Dillon said it best.
He's like, stand-ups, you can't just do stand-up to no audience.
He's like, you gotta be creative.
Come up with sketches.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
You know, but Dillon's always doing that.
Tim has always got, like, his Meghan McCain impression and all that.
greg fitzsimmons
He's really fucking funny.
joe rogan
He's so prolific.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he is.
And the stuff he does out on the street, just fucking around with people is hilarious.
joe rogan
No, he's awesome.
He's awesome, but he goes so far.
Like, his characters...
I told him, like, I want you to get healthy, man.
I'm like, we need you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, we really do need him.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
He's fucking hilarious.
He's a wild man.
And this is the, like, for me, like, guys like him that fucking push it hard.
Like, they're important.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta keep these guys around.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
joe rogan
You gotta nourish them.
Because, like, there's a lot of lazy comics out there that aren't putting in one-tenth of the work that Tim Dillon's out there putting in.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's constantly uploading new videos, constantly doing things, constantly tweeting funny shit, constantly.
Yeah.
Constantly.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just still working, man.
greg fitzsimmons
And he's just naturally funny.
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
He's got to be from Long Island, right?
joe rogan
Oh, he's definitely from New York.
greg fitzsimmons
He's got that.
joe rogan
He's from Long Island, right?
greg fitzsimmons
He's got that Long Island sense of humor.
He just doesn't give a shit.
joe rogan
The best form of it.
Yeah.
The best form.
Well-read, but a smart guy, too.
Yeah.
We're in a strange, strange moment in history.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it's strange, but it's an opportunity.
It really is something you've got to look at.
Like, you said something to me when I asked you last week how you're doing.
You said you're just trying to...
Accept.
And I think that's the key.
If you can accept it, then you can be proactive about it.
You can be creative about it.
You can just take whatever life force you have and look at what are the possibilities here.
joe rogan
Don't have any expectations that can get shattered by reality.
Accept what it is.
What it is is a new thing.
You know, let's stay alive, be nice to each other, and do your best, and try to get through this.
And hopefully, at the other end, when science and medicine has gotten a handle on this, hopefully, we can go back to normal life.
That would be wonderful.
But right now, we can't, so it is what it is.
If you just want to run around screaming and hollering and freaking out about it, it's not good.
What makes me more concerned than anything What is life going to be like once the economy rolls back again?
How many people are going to be out of work?
How many businesses are going to be shuttered?
How fucked up is it going to be?
That gives me the most fear of the unknown.
Because I know that a certain amount of people are going to get sick, and a certain large percentage are going to get better, and unfortunately some people are going to die, and all that's awful.
But I kind of see that.
That makes sense in my mind.
I kind of see a disease.
I see people.
That all makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is an economy that stops and then restarts again.
I've never seen that before.
So for that, I'm like, what is that like?
greg fitzsimmons
And there's no model to base it on because our economy today is so much different than it was even 10 years ago.
It's an international economy.
It's a digital economy.
There's so much of it that we don't know how it's going to play out.
And I know that a lot more people are going to stop going to work.
I think that businesses are saying, oh, we don't need offices for 100% of our people?
And parking spots?
No, we'll just have 50% of the people work from home like we just did for the last three months.
That worked.
joe rogan
That would be very cost-effective for people that don't want to have gigantic offices.
And then also, how much freedom it is if you can work from home.
I mean, for a lot of people, if that's possible, that would definitely be preferable.
greg fitzsimmons
Hell yeah.
And productivity, I can tell you from writing on TV shows over the years, there's been some that I've written from home, you know, where I'm like a consultant that's just handing them it.
I do so much more work when I have to actually hand it in through an email than when I'm sitting in a writer's room with 12 other people throwing out a line once an hour while I'm eating fucking sushi.
I mean, I work my ass off when I'm home because I got to justify it.
joe rogan
Yes, that's a good point.
That's a good point.
You're accountable.
Yeah.
I mean, I think a good thing to do right now would be to think about that in terms of creation of material.
One thing I've been guilty of over the last month, I haven't written jack shit.
I mean, I have a couple ideas that I wrote down, but I really have been writing when I haven't been doing stand-up.
And I decided what I wanted to do is I wanted to know what my take on this is.
And I felt like the best way I could figure out what my take on it is, is just have a natural take on it.
Like actually go through this and find out what it is first, how long it's gonna last, and what are your thoughts on this?
And at the beginning I didn't know what my thoughts on it were, because my thoughts on it were stay safe, make sure family stays safe, friends stay safe.
Do whatever you're supposed to do and let's find out how long it's going to take.
What do the experts say?
Talk to some experts.
What's the prognosis look like?
It keeps getting pushed back.
Now it's June.
Now they're saying June.
Things are going to restart in June.
I'm like, fuck, what is that like?
What is that like for people that are check to check?
Three months?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
April, May, June?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
unidentified
When does it go back?
joe rogan
Three months from now and it's already been a month?
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
What day June?
What if June 14 you got more cases?
Then what do we do?
Do we ever say, fuck it, let's just go back to work?
What is that like?
What kind of drunken Wild West parties are you going to be when people go back to work and start going back to bars and they forgot how to be out at a bar at a nightclub?
greg fitzsimmons
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
How many people are going to be pregnant?
When this all goes back, there's going to be a giant uptick in babies.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, nine months from now?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah, I didn't think of that.
joe rogan
They're fucking and they're scared and they're shooting those fear-based loads, which are heavy.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, we're running out of condoms.
I was just reading in the paper that they produce all the condoms in Malaysia.
I think it's in Malaysia.
And they're shuttered.
The factory's shuttered.
joe rogan
We need to make shit here, but we need to make shit in a way that doesn't destroy the environment.
And one of the ways they're able to make shit in other countries is they don't have the same regulations, environmental regulations as they do here.
That's always been the big problem with shipping stuff overseas.
They also don't have the same regulations.
Like when the Foxconn scandal came out and they found out there was nets around the building to keep people from jumping off the building where they make iPhones.
You're like, "Oh, what?" We got to make them here.
And we got to figure out a way where we make them where we have a...
The person who makes them makes good living.
You know, back in the old days when they used to have great cars that were made in Detroit.
They were all made in Detroit.
And Detroit was a huge city.
Detroit was one of the richest cities in the country.
It was huge.
Now it's a disaster because everything got shipped overseas or everything got shipped to different places.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, they got to figure out the unions because the unions are a great theory and they have worked well in a lot of ways, but they also...
Have huge problems.
And there's got to be a way to get unions back in place that can guarantee people health coverage and retirement without making the cost of doing business so high that it hurts the industry.
joe rogan
I don't know jack shit about finances, so I don't know whether or not I should even comment on that.
But it would be nice if everybody worked it out.
It would be nice if everybody figured out how to make shit in America, where we don't have to worry about things going down.
And let's learn from this.
Let's learn from this and start making medicine over here.
Why is all the medicine made in China?
What?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
How much?
What?
It's crazy!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
We make a lot of shit, but we need to balance out We need to balance out for some sort of apocalyptic event.
We've got to be prepared.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, this is like, you know, we're streamlining right now.
We're realizing what's necessary and what's luxury.
And we're keeping it simple.
And then we're going to come out of it having a better gauge of what each of us needs individually and as a country.
joe rogan
Or Trump wins a second term.
We go to war with Iran.
China backs Iran.
Woo!
Things get crazy.
No one has any money.
50% are out of work.
Military's in the streets.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
COVID-21 comes out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kills 40% of the population.
Still no ventilators.
greg fitzsimmons
All right.
joe rogan
That's possible, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of possibles out there.
greg fitzsimmons
What was the thing about we were shipping stuff overseas?
They just read something today that we were sending medical equipment to other countries.
joe rogan
We were.
greg fitzsimmons
Did you read anything about that?
jamie vernon
When the ship broke down in China, we shipped a bunch of our stuff there to help them without then replenishing what we shipped over.
joe rogan
Oh, we got stupid.
jamie vernon
We were trying to be helpful and didn't think it was going to happen to us.
I think that's what I was thinking.
greg fitzsimmons
But I think I also read something about Thailand, that we were actually shipping stuff to Thailand right now, and then it was some kind of mix-up, and the government's apologizing about it now.
joe rogan
Well, China's apparently going to stop, according to my friend Forrest Galante, who's a wildlife biologist.
China's going to stop the sale of a lot of wildlife now.
Which is what you got in those wet markets.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, sale of wildlife all packed on top of each other.
Apparently they're enacting some new regulations to stop that.
Because they're recognizing, like, hey, this is where diseases come from.
There's going to be a better way to do this.
But, I mean, in really impoverished provinces, and you think about the sheer size of China and the sheer numbers of the population, and the fact they've been doing it this way for so long.
What are you going to do different?
How are you going to stop them?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it's factory farming, and so what's happening is these small farmers are being pushed further and further into the wilderness, and so they're basically harvesting animals that aren't normally eaten, and there's a lot of bat shit, and the animals are eating bat shit.
joe rogan
Is that really what's going on?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That sounds like a gas station version of what's really going on.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I... Who am I? One of your doctor guests who knows what the fuck they're talking about?
joe rogan
I think you're right about batshit, though.
Official asked the Thais for help, only to be informed by the puzzled voices on the other side of the line that a U.S. shipment of the same supplies, the second of two so far, was already on its way to Bangkok.
jamie vernon
So we had a problem with our policy and the way shit was already sent over and someone else was asking for stuff and they didn't know that it was already being sent there, so they put a stop on that.
joe rogan
Oh, so it was being sent to Bangkok and we turned it around.
greg fitzsimmons
Meanwhile, their king is in Germany, fucking 20 beautiful women.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, I was watching, there's this guy, do you know who Efren Reyes is?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Probably one of the, if not the greatest pool player of all time, one of the greatest pool players of all time.
And he lives in the Philippines.
And he plays these money matches over there all the time.
He's really old now.
He doesn't play like he used to when he was at his best.
But they put these matches online from like March 20th.
2020. Packed pool hall.
People stuffed in the Philippines.
Stuffed on top of each other.
No social distancing whatsoever.
Smoking cigarettes, hanging out, playing pool.
Stuffed into this pool room.
And I'm like, wow.
And they're just putting that online.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
See if you can find it.
Efren Reyes, March 2020. Like, March 20th.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
Somewhere around there.
And I'm like, oh.
How many places in the world are like this?
Where they're just hanging out.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
They're just like, fuck it.
We're just going to do it normal style.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
And then leaving and going on public transportation.
joe rogan
For sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then other people interact with them.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's...
Other places, you know, you go to the supermarket and people are dressed up like they're beekeepers.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
What's your...
unidentified
What?
greg fitzsimmons
What's your regimen for exercising during this?
Same as usual?
joe rogan
Same as usual.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Except you can't go to yoga classes.
joe rogan
Yeah, no yoga, but I'm working out here.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and I work out at my house and I still run the hills with a dog.
I've been doing that a lot.
More hiking than running.
I had a little bit of a knee injury from skiing.
But that's healed up.
But it's not that big a deal for me.
Luckily, I'm fortunate that I got a home gym.
But there's plenty of videos, if you don't, online.
If you can get any one thing, one piece of equipment that I would think you would need, get a chin-up bar.
Everything else you can do with your body weight.
If you just write out a body weight workout, so chin-ups, add chin-ups, different kinds of push-ups, like Hindu push-ups.
Hindu push-ups are your ass goes up in the air and you bomb dive when you push up.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Like an uppercut?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
Those are great.
Those are great.
Do series of, you know, sets of 20 of those.
Do regular push-ups.
Do diamond push-ups, you know, with your hands like this.
You could do wall presses where, like, you do, you put your feet on the wall and you could do, like, shoulder presses that way where you're pushing things overhead.
greg fitzsimmons
What do you mean, like a handstand?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm, yeah.
And you just put your feet on the wall.
So you rest your feet on the wall and you just do shoulder presses.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Instead of pushing weight off overhead, you just push your whole body up.
So you can do that.
You can, without even leaving your house, you can get crazy cardio workouts just by doing lunges and switching steps and doing what are called Hindu squats.
And Hindu squats, you go down.
They're all just all body weight, no added weight at all.
You go down and as you go down, when your knees go all the way bent, you actually lift your heels up off the ground, you go on the balls of your feet.
And then you put your hands behind you, and then you stand up like this.
And then you go back down again.
In the same thing you just keep going over and over and over again and you could do sets of like a hundred So it's really pretty easy for the first 10 and then for the first 15 and 20 and then you go, okay This is gonna be 30 whoo this is some work 50 holy shit.
I'm halfway there 67 you get to a hundred hindu squats and your thighs are fucking burning burning Yeah.
And you want to build up.
Some wrestlers, they would do them every day.
They would do like 500 Hindu squats every morning.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was part of their conditioning regiment.
You know who The Miz is, that guy on the WWE? No.
He was on Fear Factor once.
And the most fit guy we ever had on Fear Factor, by far.
Like, you could do freaky shit.
Like, swam in cold water, holding his breath while doing tasks for like two and a half minutes.
Didn't have to come up for air.
Where everybody else would have tapped out a long time ago.
I was like, this fucking dude is fit.
And this was before he was like a superstar in wrestling.
Like, people knew of him.
He had been on some reality show.
He was on the real world.
Yeah, but like super fit like crazy shape and he was talking about the different things that he would do for wrestling and one of the things was the air squats They would do those kind of Hindu squats very similar kind of squats.
We do 500 a day Wow, I was like god damn and knowing how hard it is to do a hundred you're doing 500 of those a day That's a punishing workout on your legs.
You don't have to go anywhere Yeah.
Right from your house.
greg fitzsimmons
We got some of those rubber bands.
Those rubber bands are really good too.
joe rogan
Those are great too.
There's a ton of exercises that you can learn on Instagram and on YouTube in particular.
A bunch of different websites, a bunch of different people that can show you.
On the Onnit website, we got a bunch of different workouts, bodyweight workouts.
Also, if you want to get a kettlebell, just get one fucking kettlebell.
There's a ton of YouTube videos that will give you an amazing workout with one kettlebell.
One kettlebell, one 35-pound kettlebell.
And there's like this series of high-intensity workouts from a bunch of different instructors.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
There's so much.
Yeah, man, free!
Because they just want you to tune into their content, and they'll give you certain exercises you can do, and they'll put them in order, and they're trying to build up their Instagram pages or build up their YouTube pages.
It's plenty of free information.
greg fitzsimmons
Get on Amazon.com, have them send a 35 pound kettlebell to your house.
joe rogan
Yeah, one kettlebell.
And you replaced your gym.
One kettlebell, one chin-up bar, you replaced your gym.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, every day you can get a fucking ferocious workout in a bunch of different ways.
greg fitzsimmons
So the chin-up bar is just for pull-ups and chin-ups?
joe rogan
Just pull-ups.
greg fitzsimmons
And I guess abs and chin-ups.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can do abs stuff too.
You want to get the kind, in my opinion, my humble opinion, get the kind that screws into the door.
I don't trust those ones that hook.
I could just see shit going wrong.
You know what I mean?
I want a motherfucker that's not coming out of the door.
Just in there.
And then from that, you could do those leg raises where you hang and you bring your feet up and touch the bar and then slowly bring them down and feet up and touch the bar.
Brutal ab workout.
There's a ton of shit you can do from your home.
You could do, if you want to get in crazy cardio, get these little egg weights, they have a bunch of different sizes, and do rounds of shadowboxing.
So I have some that are five pounds or five pounds in each hand, and you put on like a timer, and then you just have to shadowbox for three minutes.
And you're 13 seconds in, you're like, oh, fuck this.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, just keep going.
Keep moving.
You can get crazy cardio without having to go anywhere.
Anywhere.
You don't have to do anything.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm going to continue with my program of sleeping with rounds of furious masturbation.
joe rogan
Or do some push-ups, Greg.
greg fitzsimmons
No, I've been doing stuff.
I've been...
Family yoga.
Been doing every other day.
We found a good video online.
We do.
And then bike rides.
Took a long-ass bike ride with my son last night.
But they closed the beach.
They closed the parks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They closed everything, right?
greg fitzsimmons
They closed the tennis courts.
Everything.
joe rogan
Right now, Cameron Haynes' son, Truett, is trying to break the record for the most chin-ups In 24 hours.
He's doing five, I think he's doing five every minute.
Really?
Yeah, he's been doing it since three o'clock in the morning.
The idea is it goes all the way through to 24 hours of chin-ups, and I think the number to beat, he's looking to beat like 4,000 something chin-ups.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going on right now.
Go to his Instagram.
Oh, you can go to Cam's Instagram page because Cam flew in to help him.
I think they're doing it in Utah.
And his Instagram is justtruitt.
That's Cam's son.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
He hasn't posted anything for the last five hours.
He's at 2,060.
joe rogan
2,060.
Yeah.
So he might need to take a little nappy poo.
greg fitzsimmons
What's he built like?
Is he lean or is he beefy?
joe rogan
He's a stud.
He's very strong.
There he is.
greg fitzsimmons
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's probably, he's in the, if I had to guess, he's in the 200 pound range.
greg fitzsimmons
He looks tall.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a big kid.
Big, strong kid.
I mean, he's taller than Cam Cam.
I don't know how tall he is.
Now that I think about it.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, he's doing overhand.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pull-ups.
Chin-ups are this one.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You grab it like this.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Pull up.
Man, I guess he's probably like 5'11", 5'10", 5'11".
Whatever he is, the kid's a stud.
And he's young, man.
I think he's in his early 20s.
So he's doing this.
He's doing five of them.
But he's got a savage father.
I mean, his father's out there running 240-mile races that take three days.
You know, his father's one of the best bow hunters on planet Earth.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
His father's Cameron Haynes.
He's the guy who originally taught me how to shoot a bow and taught me how to hunt.
So that's his son.
So his son's a fucking savage, too.
So he's doing five of these every minute.
So what'd you say he's at?
2000 what?
unidentified
He says that...
jamie vernon
Excuse me.
2060. Oh, look at his shirt!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Rogan and Haynes for president, 2020. That's great.
But anyway, this kid is an animal.
And he's documenting the whole thing.
So good luck to you, Truett.
Mountain Ops, that's where the Mountain Ops Gym.
That makes sense.
They're a company that makes high-end supplements that are used by a lot of outdoor people.
Make a lot of stuff specifically tailored towards athletes that hunt.
That's the thing about this bow hunting thing that's very different than what people associate with hunting.
You have to go to the animals.
There's no easy way to do it.
You're hiking.
You have to be in shape.
greg fitzsimmons
You've got to carry heavy shit.
joe rogan
You've got to carry heavy shit, but that's the easy part.
The hard part is, well, not always, because sometimes you're deep, deep in.
You've got to carry heavy shit for miles and miles.
But it's also hard just to get to where the elk are.
They're super athletes, and they just effortlessly bound up the side of a hill in seconds, and it would take you an hour to go to the same place.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you have to follow these fuckers, and you have to be fit to do it, and you're at 8,000 feet above sea level, so there's not much air there anyway, and you have to be fit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he started running marathons, Cameron did, and getting in really great shape just for elk hunting.
And then along the way, he said, all right, I'm going to do some ultra-marathons.
So he did some 100-milers, and then he did this Bigfoot 200, or was it Bigfoot 240?
No, the Moab 240. So he did a 200-miler, and then he did a 240-miler.
greg fitzsimmons
That's 10 marathons.
joe rogan
Dude, it's so preposterous.
It takes days, days and days and days, and they just run for days.
greg fitzsimmons
Not straight through?
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
Without sleeping, he'll run 10 marathons?
joe rogan
They might sleep an hour.
Sometimes people sleep 10 minutes.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Courtney Dillewalter, we had her in here.
She won.
Not only did she win it, she won it by more than 10 hours.
So she was 10 hours faster than the second place person.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
She's a savage!
She said she slept for a minute.
And then when the minute was over, she was angry.
She thought they'd let her sleep for longer because she was so rested.
And then she got up and fucking kept running.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Dude, she ran 200. I think it's like officially, they call it the 240, but it's like 238. 238 miles.
greg fitzsimmons
Think about how many times you run through pain.
Because if I run to the beach and back, it's two miles.
And my ankle or my knee, something hurts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
But when you run that far, you're dealing with blisters, twisted ankles.
Ugh.
Chafing.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
Ugh.
You're gonna fall apart.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've said it before, but I'll say it one more time.
If anyone hasn't seen, go and watch the video that was documenting Eddie Izzard's trip around all of UK. He was running a marathon every day.
greg fitzsimmons
He did it for like 20 days or something?
joe rogan
26 days, I think he did it.
Something crazy like that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But here's what's really crazy.
Didn't run before this.
That's the craziest.
So, decided to pick up running and run a marathon every day for like almost a month.
And just by sheer will.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, you mean he didn't train leading up to that?
joe rogan
No, he was overweight.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Overweight.
Wasn't in shape at all.
Feet were destroyed.
I mean, destroyed.
Like, one day, they forced him, like, medically forced him to take a day off.
Like, you have to rest your feet.
His feet were destroyed.
Destroyed.
The skin was just hanging off of them.
Just raw meat.
And they're showing, like, they're trying to clean the dressings and the bandages, and it's just falling apart.
Like, his skin's destroyed.
greg fitzsimmons
You've got to have some serious internal pain, emotional pain, to put yourself through that.
joe rogan
Or you have to have a mind.
It's like a bank vault.
You don't let those things fuck with you.
You just keep going.
You have a goal.
Here's your goal.
Left foot, right foot, go.
Keep going.
Until when?
Until you get to the end, and then get something to eat, go to sleep, and you can do it again tomorrow.
And after a while, you sort of got in shape.
He just got in shape by running a goddamn marathon every day.
And so towards the end of it, he's, like, not really in much pain anymore.
He's, like, be able to do them a little bit faster.
You could see his body's getting more accustomed to running.
greg fitzsimmons
Was he doing it in high-heeled shoes?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That helps.
Yeah.
He was doing it in regular clothes.
unidentified
He did do it.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
He did have his nails painted.
joe rogan
Oh, he did have his nails painted.
Well, didn't he just did another one?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he just did a 28 in 28 days, I think.
joe rogan
He was telling us he was doing one and he wanted to run through these really bad parts of Africa.
And they're like, no.
They're like, you'll get killed.
They'll rob you and kill you.
He's like, really?
He's like, yeah, we're going to get you, take you in a van, get you out of this area, and then you can run the rest.
Like, there's areas that are like, you are not running.
Like, what if you guys follow me?
Like, no.
They'll come get you.
Make humanity great again.
Oh, I love his hat.
Blue hat.
Make humanity great again.
You gotta go blue, right?
Because he's got the red and you can't even wear a red hat today.
Someone had a Supreme hat on.
It was Schaub.
He had a red hat that said Supreme in white letters.
People are like, you should probably take that hat off.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, did you see Curb Your Enthusiasm this season?
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
greg fitzsimmons
There's one where he wears a hat just to have people leave him alone, and he fucking loves it.
He just walks around LA, everybody treats him like a pariah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
Those are my picks.
If you're bunkered down looking for shit to watch on TV, Curb's new season is great.
Ozark is fucking great.
joe rogan
Ozark's great.
Just started, just got through episode one of the new season.
That's one of my favorite shows, though.
unidentified
Yeah, I love it.
joe rogan
I love that show.
Outsider, excuse me, on HBO is very good, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Outsider's great.
joe rogan
What else is good?
greg fitzsimmons
My Brilliant Friend on HBO. What is that?
That's the one I was telling you about, the Italian one, based on the books.
That's really good.
There's a new Better Call Saul.
I haven't seen it yet, but it's all loaded up on the DVR. That just finished.
joe rogan
There's plenty of shit to watch.
greg fitzsimmons
Plenty of good shit, everybody.
joe rogan
That's what's interesting about this time.
You're going to actually have time to watch it.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
I always pictured like, God, I wish I could just like, you know, break my leg so I could lay in bed and catch up on this series.
And it's like, that's happening.
joe rogan
Yep.
It's happening for everybody.
Yeah, man.
I mean, I like to be optimistic.
I want to think that we're going to come through this better.
That we're going to come through this a little bit more compassionate and understanding what it's like to be a person.
That we have a vulnerable existence.
That's what I want.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
My fear is that there's going to be so much economic disparity, so many people out of work, so much crime, that there's going to be a bunch of people that don't feel like they're being looked out for, and then there'll be a further divide between the haves and have-nots in this country, which is one of the reasons why I like people like Bernie Sanders, whether or not he's right or wrong about whether or not he can enact any of those economic Possibilities that he's talking about, whether or not any of that stuff actually works.
At least the guy running the show has always been about helping the working people, making sure people have health care, making sure your education is covered.
Just those thoughts alone, like for the strength of our community and taking into consideration what we're going through right now, when you realize what's actually important.
What's actually important is that everybody's going to be, you know, whoever's okay, make sure they're okay.
Get them resources.
Help where you can.
When we think of ourselves in our neighborhood, you think of your neighborhood, your neighbors need some help, you want to help, right?
Especially at a time like this.
That should be our approach to the whole country, right?
We just have to expand how we feel in a neighborhood in a crisis.
Expand that to the whole country.
Maybe we can have a little bit of a shift here in the way we look at each other.
This is real possible that maybe everybody can do their part.
And then, you know, the people that are not doing their part, the people that are fucking shitty, when they get served on internet videos, people are enjoying the shit out of it.
You know, they're enjoying it.
There was some guy who spit on some oranges or something.
Did you see that?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And some guy smashed them.
Everyone's sending that to everybody.
Like, yeah, fuck you, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, that's the thing.
This partisanship, it's so hard to see.
It probably started with Reagan and it's gone since then where the left and the right are just at each other and there's no one reality anymore.
And the things that brings people together is a war, a crisis, where suddenly you see that we are all in the same country.
We're all on the same side, the humane side.
And hopefully that's what comes out of this.
joe rogan
That's well said.
And I hope you're right.
Greg Fitzsimmons, ladies and gentlemen.
greg fitzsimmons
Episode 20. Episode 20 on the Joe Rogan Experience.
joe rogan
That's a lot of episodes, dude.
We talked a lot of shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it's been great.
Thanks for having me on so often.
joe rogan
Let's play some pool, motherfucker.
greg fitzsimmons
Play some pool, dude.
joe rogan
Alright, friends.
We'll be back.
Much love to you all.
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