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March 24, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1446 - Bert Kreischer
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joe rogan
And we're live.
Cheers, sir.
bert kreischer
Cheers, brother.
joe rogan
Yeah, while the world is on fire, we might as well get a little fucked up.
bert kreischer
I've been clean for seven days.
No booze.
joe rogan
No nothing?
bert kreischer
No nothing.
joe rogan
You look good.
Your face looks good.
bert kreischer
I know.
I'm starting to see a direct difference when I quit drinking.
joe rogan
Do you feel trapped by your image?
By your party image?
bert kreischer
I would never have said yes until this week.
I've exhaled for the first time in a very big way.
Like where I was like, no road.
I'm not doing social media.
I mean, I'm doing stories and stuff, but I'm not trying to put, like, when things shut down, I kind of shut down with America.
And I was like, yesterday, man, I sat in a hammock sober for like fucking two hours and just relaxed.
joe rogan
It is nice to be home for a while.
It is nice.
You realize what a beating our lifestyle takes on your body, the travel, and then if you're boozing too, the travel and the boozing together.
So we should tell everybody what we learned today.
I'm revising my thinking about this virus because of Michael Yeo.
Michael Yeo caught it.
Michael Yeo is healthy as fuck.
He's not any high-risk group.
He doesn't have any pre-existing conditions.
He's in shape.
And he got it, and he got pneumonia, too.
And he said it was a double combination, and he thought he was going to die.
And he was in the hospital for over a week.
And four days ago, he said he thought he was going to die.
That's fucking terrifying because Michael Yeo is healthy.
He's not some 80-year-old man.
I talked to my friend, Dr. Peter Atiyah.
He's a physician.
bert kreischer
That's the guy that swam from Maui.
joe rogan
Yes.
He swam all the islands.
He's a fucking straight-up savage.
So his take, this is my question to him.
I said, this is crazy shit.
What is your take on how so many people experience very few symptoms but others get wrecked?
And he said, He said maybe some genetic predisposition.
We know blood types matters.
A is the worst.
O is the best based on antibodies.
He said, I'm O positive.
He said, but I don't think that explains more than some of it.
Maybe shit like vaping, he said.
Still too soon to tell.
He is a straight-up, no-nonsense, no-bullshit guy.
And I listen to everything he says.
So, when guys like him are concerned, I get concerned.
And he's concerned.
This is a weird disease.
Another thing that he said, it's weird that it seems that people who spend more time with this get it worse.
He's like, it's not like, you know, like doctors in hospitals with prolonged exposure get it really bad.
Nurses in hospitals with prolonged exposure seem to get it really bad.
Whereas some people get it, and they don't get it bad.
It's weird.
It's a very, very strange disease, according to doctors.
And I think we're still trying to figure this out.
You know, it's just...
Wow.
It's one of those things where everyone's just sort of absorbing the information as it comes in, and you've got to be open to adjusting your opinions.
My opinions were I really was concerned with old people, and I was concerned with sick people.
Now, after Michael Yeo, I'm like, okay, this is not that straightforward.
There might be some other crazy factors here.
Like, for some people, yeah, like Idris Elba, who looks fantastic.
You know, fine.
But maybe other people are gonna have a real hard time with it, like Michael Yeo.
Like, Michael Yeo's not a sickly guy.
He's a big, robust guy.
That's a spooky one.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
I mean, your podcast with the...
joe rogan
Osterholm?
bert kreischer
Chicken Little.
That scared the fuck out of me.
unidentified
Chicken Little?
bert kreischer
Fucking sitting in the back of my tour bus.
And I hear this, I'm like, ah, I've had a few cocktails, I hit a joint, let's go to bed.
Oh, cool, who's this guy?
Ah, the coronavirus, I wouldn't mind hearing a little bit about that.
unidentified
Holy...
bert kreischer
First thing I did, I told Jamie, first thing I did, I sat up in bed and I was Googled that motherfucker, I was like, he wrote a book, didn't he?
Fuck that guy.
I was so freaked out in that fucking podcast.
joe rogan
What's crazy about Osterholm is he predicted this shit literally specifically as to where it was going to come from.
bert kreischer
He was very insightful.
I didn't mean fuck that guy in a bad way.
He was a very insightful dude.
And it was a great podcast.
But man, I'll tell you right now, Joe, you said, so guys that are overweight, that drink a lot, that smoke.
joe rogan
I was talking to you.
You know that, right?
bert kreischer
By the way, I thought you were.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was.
I was.
I was like, Bert, I'm talking to you.
I didn't want to say it, but I was like piecing together at all my good friends.
Who's my one friend who takes care of himself the worst?
It's you.
bert kreischer
It's me.
joe rogan
It's you.
bert kreischer
I quit.
Cigars, weed, booze.
I'm having a drink now.
joe rogan
You're still okay, man.
If you stopped this bus now, I don't Got healthy and just drank water only water for a month, you know, you could pull this shit together.
I'm pulling it.
Relatively speaking compared to the fucking Savagery you do your physique to your body to your form to your being by just downing booze constantly You're great!
Like most people would be really fucked up if they were in your position.
That's we were all we were Marveling when you ran that marathon like this motherfucker Parties so hard, and you just ran a marathon.
Like, it's crazy.
You're a very, like, I hate to use the same word again, but it's the right word, robust.
You're a robust guy.
And the reason why you're able to endure all this booze is because you're robust.
But if you didn't do the booze, man, you'd probably be a stud.
Because whatever the fuck is keeping you going with all this booze, imagine what kind of, I mean, you're like pouring sugar water into a fucking 68 Charger.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
Clean that bitch up.
Clean that bitch up.
Replace the heads.
That hemi will purr.
You must be.
You have to have great genes.
There's no other way.
I mean, how old are you now?
47. Yeah, you're 47. And relatively speaking, compared to the fucking savagery you do, boozing.
I boozed with you.
It's a rough go.
You know, it's like smoking weed with Joey Diaz or with Be Real from Cypress Hill.
Just stop.
You're not in their league.
You don't roll with Hicks and Gracie and expect to tap him.
You don't smoke weed with Be Real.
bert kreischer
I never see that.
And then I took Norman to Europe with me, Mark Norman.
And Mark Norman's a boozer.
And man, two days in and he tapped out.
We got him addicted to Ambien.
He is the funniest fucking human being.
I really love him.
joe rogan
He's a real comic, man.
I cherish guys like him.
Him, Andrew Schultz.
bert kreischer
I texted with Schultz this morning.
joe rogan
These young guys coming up are everything to me.
bert kreischer
Chris DiStefano?
joe rogan
Young women coming up, too.
bert kreischer
Do you know Chris DiStefano?
joe rogan
I do not know him well.
I know of him.
He's very funny.
bert kreischer
He makes me giggle hard as fuck.
joe rogan
Very funny guy.
There's a good crop, a good crop of real comics, who honor this thing that we do, this weird thing we do.
You know, it's like, what we're doing is a very strange game of saying funny, silly shit, and then trying to make each other laugh, and then, but understanding what we're doing, don't say, oh, you really mean that, or, oh, you know, you can't joke about this.
Like, none of those guys will do that.
Because we know the game.
The game is to be funny.
That's the game.
Be funny.
And sometimes you say ridiculous shit to be funny.
Sometimes it works.
Sometimes it falls apart.
Sometimes it blows up in your face.
And sometimes it knocks it out of the park.
And so you've got to take those risks.
And you throw in every now and then.
It's the people that are in this thing that understand what we're doing and appreciate that.
Those are the most fun people to hang out with because you never have to think about them getting upset at you for saying something.
Or them taking you literally or seriously, or them not even taking you seriously, but calling you on to pretend that they're taking you seriously so that they can virtue signal.
Which I've seen before, but I've never seen from anybody funny.
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
It's never from anybody funny.
It's always from these kind of half-assed, sort of half-cooked versions of a comic.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it's never been...
I was telling, you know, I got into a conversation with Ari about what the parameters of a joke were after the whole Kobe Bryant shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And he said something that made me like fucking stutter step.
He was like, you can't say it's not a joke.
He kept arguing.
You can't say it's not a joke.
You can't say it's not a joke.
It was a joke, Bert.
It was a joke.
And I was just saying to him, you know, Tom and I had said that we didn't think it was funny.
We didn't think it was a joke.
And then I wrapped my head around.
I remember one time Isla had a dance on fifth grade and they did it on stage, right?
And they were saying, you know, just so you know, the parents are going to be in the audience.
Boys may dance with boys.
Girls may dance with girls.
We just want all the parents to know that we're cool with that and make sure everyone's cool with that.
You know, like a little preamble.
And I said, yeah, as long as they're white.
unidentified
And...
bert kreischer
And man, some parents got so upset, like really, really upset.
joe rogan
Because they don't have any sense of humor.
bert kreischer
And they go, are you being serious?
I go, guys, I'm joking.
joe rogan
Obviously, I want to- I'm a professional comedian.
bert kreischer
No, I don't want her dancing with girls.
I want her dancing with boys.
unidentified
And that's what- Did they start laughing at that at least?
bert kreischer
No, no, no, no.
That got him more mad.
That got him more mad.
It's fucking half of this special is just times I fucking said the worst things to people.
joe rogan
Parents are weird, man, because some of them are super cool.
And if you get lucky, I know a really nice group of super cool parents of my kids' friends, and it's a pleasure.
Because when we get together, it's fun.
I enjoy their company, our kids enjoy each other's company, and we have great times together.
I feel so fortunate.
For the friends that I've acquired this way.
You can find cool people that aren't comics.
They do exist.
You can get lucky.
The problem is people that take themselves too seriously or people that are under the iron fist of office politics and office behavior and business behavior.
Those people get consumed Because they're there every day.
And when you're there, you've got to bullshit every day.
You're wearing a tie.
You've got slippery bottoms to your shoes.
The whole thing's nonsense, right?
And you have to speak and behave a certain way, and you can't make jokes about anything.
And sometimes you're working with girls, and you're working with guys, and everybody's flirting with each other.
There's all this crazy office politics because people are trying to move up the ladder.
And while they're trying to move up the ladder, they have to make sure they don't say anything that's going to sabotage their career just trying to be funny or just getting a little out of hand at the company Christmas party.
You get a couple cocktails in you and ruining your career.
These people are always on the edge.
They're always suppressed.
So when they're around someone who's not, who just cuts loose, they're like, no!
No!
You stay in line!
No!
No jokes!
But looking at you, though, they could have thought you were serious.
bert kreischer
Oh.
joe rogan
That's where it's dangerous, because they might not be able to switch gears well.
Sometimes people, if they knew you were going to joke around about something, they'd be fine.
But then you say something like that, and you're like, oh my god, is he serious?
I have to stand up and denounce racism now.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Man, that's the craziest part about...
Especially, I've gone through, my oldest daughter's in 10th grade, my youngest is in 8th, and those formative K through 5, that's the fun run of being a parent.
Because you meet a lot of parents that you don't know, and you say shit, and you find out shit.
I remember one time we were at drop-off, and we found out, we got an email about some, whatchamacallit, and the mom sent it from her work account, and it was a fucking porn star.
And we were in drop-off, me and a couple dads watching her fuck, being like, take a look at this.
joe rogan
That's rough.
That's one thing that's tough to switch gears from.
A guy or a girl, if you're a porn star, and you want to go legit, it's a tough road.
For whatever reason.
It's weird.
It's like if you accidentally did porn, but when you clearly, like Kim Kardashian, it hasn't hurt her at all.
bert kreischer
Not at all.
joe rogan
She essentially did porn.
And everybody's like, yeah, but there was no studio attached.
It was really independent.
unidentified
So it's...
bert kreischer
She's like the clerks of porn.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then this idea that somehow or another magically got online.
Like, what happened?
How did he get there?
There's a negotiation process.
But when you see a mainstream porn star that's been in tons of movies, very rarely do they make a jump and then just do regular movies.
Tracy Lords is a bit of an example of an exception.
She did a John Waters movie.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
She did some stuff.
bert kreischer
Kim Kardashian's porn wasn't even that good.
joe rogan
How dare you?
bert kreischer
It wasn't.
You didn't see her tits, really.
You never saw her pussy.
It just was like her sucking his dick.
joe rogan
That's good enough.
I don't think you should ask for too much more.
It's one.
She did one movie.
bert kreischer
She did one.
Paris Hilton's was better.
joe rogan
It's like her first set.
You realize you got out of the gate too strong.
You didn't have a good closer.
She's not like, you know, she's not a world-class professional.
bert kreischer
I watched Paris Hilton's porn.
I was like, I would fuck her with the herpes.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
joe rogan
Wow.
Just catch her on a good day, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
That's what this, when you saw fucking Florida, all those kids going, fuck it, this is my spring break, those are people that would raw dog it with herpes and not tell you about it.
This is about me!
This is my vacation!
joe rogan
I'm in this other group chat, and these comics are like, these kids are so stupid, how can they be so irresponsible, this and that, and I just type in all caps, THEY WANT TO FUCK! That's what's going on.
They don't care.
They want to fuck, and they're drunk in Mexico.
Like, get out of here.
They want to fuck, or they're in Florida on spring break.
bert kreischer
That would have been me.
joe rogan
They're in Cancun, or there's people in Texas.
There was this thing about these Texas kids, and they were piled onto this area together.
It looked like some outdoor party area, but they were just stacked in there like sardines.
And people were like, holy fuck.
Yeah, you didn't raise your kids right.
And even if you did, even if you did, if they're hanging around with other kids that are fuck-ups, they're gonna fuck up.
We all did that.
I was involved in a lot of really stupid shit because I was around some kids that were sketchy when I was a kid.
Especially when I lived in Jamaica Plain.
Jamaica Plain was like this area.
We only lived there for about maybe...
Less than two years.
It was like a year and a half.
And it was like an urban section of Boston that's since been gentrified apparently.
Apparently it's nice now.
But back then it was sketchy.
It was like all kinds of like everyone.
Irish kids, Italian kids, black kids, Puerto Rican kids.
But no one was getting good parenting.
Everyone's parents smoked.
People were drunk.
There were chaos people.
It was weird.
There were wild people.
The whole block was filled with wild people.
There weren't bad people.
There wasn't a crime-infested, dangerous neighborhood, but it was sketchy, and everyone was a mess.
Everyone on my block.
My next-door neighbor, we've talked about this before, they were a punk rock band called Death in the Shopping Mall, and they used to play downstairs in the basement.
And so they had these thick layers of carpet set up in the basement.
So they had carpet all over the door, carpet all over the ceiling, many, many, many, many, many layers.
And these guys would fucking go off in there, playing guitar and fucking screaming.
And I was...
I guess I was 11?
No, 13?
Yeah, I was 13 years old, because it was middle school right before I went to high school, so I was 13 years old.
And I was, like, fascinated, because I was just becoming a teenager.
And living next door to these fucking savages, these savages, they just were playing crazy fucking loud music.
bert kreischer
And you didn't see punk rock people a lot back then.
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
I remember when there was a kid at the bus stop on Dale Mabry, and he had a punk rock haircut.
And every morning, the guy driving to school, I'd go, look at him.
And he's like, he has a Mohawk.
His mom let him have a Mohawk.
joe rogan
Well, I went from San Francisco to Gainesville, Florida, which was a college town.
bert kreischer
You went to Gainesville?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was in Gainesville, Florida, when I was 11 to 13. You and River Phoenix.
And Ted Bundy.
That guy, too.
bert kreischer
Don't get me started on Ted Bundy.
joe rogan
So we lived there for a little bit, and that was just kind of college people and the apartments we lived in, just regular folks.
It was nothing crazy.
You didn't really see too much craziness as far as crime or sketchy folks.
Everyone was pretty normal, different races, different backgrounds, but just people, apartment life.
But then when we moved to Boston, man, those kids were wild.
They'd break into fucking warehouse buildings.
Everyone knew how to steal a car.
They were like 13. They were all smoking.
Everyone was smoking.
I immediately went into this crazy environment of, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I was like my dog, Marshall, in a room full of rabid German Shepherds.
I was like, hey, guys, can we talk this out?
I'm from an apartment complex.
I'm not used to semi-urban kids.
bert kreischer
That's an interesting transition as a young child.
joe rogan
It was rough, man.
It was rough.
bert kreischer
When I was 10, I moved to a neighborhood where I was very aggressive.
joe rogan
When you were 10, same sort of situation?
bert kreischer
Yeah, we lived in a real white trash neighborhood, but my dad kind of sheltered me a little bit.
And then I moved in with like, and there was all boys, like they were all like a little older than me.
And I remember I learned the word faggot real quick.
It's the first thing I learned.
That and how to hold an ice cube in my asshole.
joe rogan
Two really important things to have in your life.
bert kreischer
I remember coming home and being like to my sister, hey faggot, go get my mom.
My dad's like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Yeah, you can certainly get ruined by bad kids.
And no one knows that more than dads.
Like dads see you hanging around with sketchy kids like, hey, I don't like you hanging around with that fucking guy.
Like dads see where that stuff goes.
Because sketchy boys commit murder.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, sketchy boys join gangs.
Sketchy boys rob cars and kill people drunk driving and set fires to warehouses.
That's what sketchy boys do.
Sketchy boys can get you locked up.
Like, we did a lot of sketchy shit when I was 13 years old.
And I remember thinking, like, wow, these guys have been doing this their whole life.
And they're 13. Meanwhile, I just sort of stumbled.
I just want to be someone's friend.
You know, I'm like, fuck.
That's when I took up fishing.
I really got into fishing, for real!
I got to get the fuck away from these kids!
bert kreischer
Everyone's crazy!
I didn't have your brain.
I kind of just picked up with them every time.
joe rogan
Man, I did not feel protected when I was young.
And it's one of the reasons why I value community today.
When I was young, I felt like really disconnected.
My parents split up.
And then my mom moved in with my stepdad.
He's a great guy and everything like that.
But we moved around a lot.
So I was never around kids that I knew for any long period of time.
And I never felt like I was safe.
Because I remember kids would always start fights.
If you move in a new neighborhood, boys always want to start fights, especially if girls think you're cute.
unidentified
If girls think you're cute, boys want to fuck you up.
joe rogan
And then when I was 13, I was like, I just got to get the fuck away from these kids.
And I found this lake that was near me.
I really got into fishing.
It was called Jamaica Pond.
And they would stock it with trout.
And there was bass in there.
All kinds of fish, man.
You could fish there all the time.
And I met this whole community of people who fished there.
Most older folks that would fish there.
But you learn about fishing.
So I fished all the time, man.
All the time.
bert kreischer
That's, you know, that speaks a lot to who you are, because that's not who I am.
joe rogan
You just dove in?
bert kreischer
I remember being like totally anti-pot, and then my buddy came and was like, you want to get high?
And I was like, okay, I'm in.
And we got high on Sal's dock.
joe rogan
Well, I had friends like that, too.
There was a friend named Vic Dobrowski.
I'll never forget.
He was the most criminal out of all of our friends.
And he was selling weed when we were 13. Dude.
Dude was selling weed at 13. You just call him.
He had the weed and he was just like a dude that had seen some shit.
Like even 13. He wasn't mean or anything like that.
He was a nice guy.
He'd just come over like, what's up, man?
Everything cool?
You guys cool?
Yeah.
unidentified
I wish I had that fucking confidence.
bert kreischer
I've never been that guy that's been cool at a party.
joe rogan
You're better off.
You're better off.
That guy just doesn't, he's just not as aware.
No one should be confident.
You're a jelly bag made out of fucking human skin covering these brittle bones and there's no roof over your head.
You're on a planet.
And there's no roof to the planet.
So it's exposed to the universe.
And it's a shooting gallery of asteroids out there.
And the only thing that protects us is the thin layer of gas above our heads.
You shouldn't be confident.
unidentified
You should be exactly how you are.
joe rogan
You should be exactly how you are.
You just need better methods of coping than alcohol.
But the way you are is a good way to be.
That confident thing is not good.
It's good if you have specific goals.
Like if you want to be a fighter.
You kind of have to be confident.
But then like, do you know who Rashad Evans is?
bert kreischer
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, former light heavyweight champion, awesome guy.
He's a totally different human now.
It's crazy.
I had him on my podcast and now that he's retired, like when he was a fighter, like you have to kind of be mean.
You have to kind of be a specific kind of person.
bert kreischer
He's to bark like a dog.
joe rogan
He was a beach dude.
Well, I think you're thinking of Rampage, you racist.
bert kreischer
No, wait.
Oh, I know who shot Evans.
Yeah, I was thinking of Rampage.
You're right.
You're definitely right.
I'm so sorry.
Listen, I'm racist.
I'm so sorry, guys.
joe rogan
They just had a great fight.
That's why.
Those two were connected because they were both coaches of The Ultimate Fighter in the peak of its popularity.
And it was one of the most heated exchanges ever is them standing like an inch away from each other saying, call me a bitch.
And Rashad was like, you a bitch.
I remember that.
And they were going back and forth to each other.
I'm like, oh my god, these guys are going to throw down on TV. It was very, very tense.
And Rashad won that fight, but I'm like, you kind of have to be confident to be that guy back then.
To be a light heavyweight champion, to be a guy who knocks out Chuck Liddell with one punch, you have to be that.
But once you're not doing that anymore...
Now Rashad's like this real spiritual guy.
He's a vegan.
He does psychedelics, and he's really intelligent.
It was a pleasure to sit down and talk to him because you see the metamorphosis, the evolution and maturity as a man.
He's like a different person now.
He's abandoned his own skin, his old skin, I should say, and become a new person, like a very different new person, like a really peaceful, really friendly, really nice guy.
He was always a great guy, but he's like more at ease now.
bert kreischer
I think that's what, when you said, when you were talking about me backed into a persona of boozing and whatnot, I don't know if it's that as much, but I had a conversation with Ali Wong and she said, you tour a lot.
And I said, yeah.
In my head, it's this weird thing about like, I gotta work.
When the special came out, that was so unearthing to not do any press.
I woke up St. Paddy's Day.
Dude, you know I had that huge St. Paddy's Day thing planned at the store, calling us at the work show.
I had all this press, all these marketing ideas, and then it just was like, hey, the world's stopping.
And it took a couple days of depression, of just going like, man, what am I going to do about this special?
I've got to promote it.
I've got to get out there.
unidentified
And then, I think...
bert kreischer
It was perspective where I was walking to the garage one night, and I was just, you know, angst.
I go, I should make a video to let everyone know my special's on Netflix, you know, in my head.
And then I went, hold on, man.
There's a lot going on in this world, and my special being watched is not the most important thing.
joe rogan
Also, I don't think you have to do much.
I mean, I think having a few conversations like this, people are looking for shit to do right now.
They're throttling down the internet.
That's what they're really worried about.
They're worried about the infrastructure.
They're really worried about the power grid.
They're really worried about internet.
They're already starting to throttle internet because so many people are simultaneously streaming.
You've got to think of how many people are home right now, and how many people, when you leave them home, just watch Netflix.
bert kreischer
Dude, me.
joe rogan
Staggering.
bert kreischer
I watched the special with my daughters last night.
joe rogan
Just imagine.
Oh, no.
They saw your bits?
bert kreischer
They saw.
joe rogan
Did they not know the bits before?
bert kreischer
They didn't know any of them.
joe rogan
I don't want to say anything.
But the one about her having her period?
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
How rough was that?
bert kreischer
She was like, poor girl blew out her pussy.
Oh, dad!
Dad!
Dad!
What the?
Dad!
unidentified
Ah!
bert kreischer
The one they reacted to, yeah, they had me put my dick on Leanne's shoulder.
There was a lot of them that they were touch and go, but we just watched it like quickly flip through it and then watched Big Cats.
joe rogan
Big cats?
bert kreischer
Or a cat king.
unidentified
Tiger king.
joe rogan
Tiger king?
What is that?
bert kreischer
Holy fuck, Joe.
joe rogan
What is it?
bert kreischer
This is, talk about faux confidence.
It's on Netflix, and it might be the most amazing show I've ever seen.
It's about people who own big cats, like tigers.
But the whole thing is about petting cubs.
Cub petting.
joe rogan
You gotta pet them when they're real young and then they stay cool with you?
bert kreischer
Well, no, no, no, no.
So these guys make a living off cub petting.
So they bring the cubs around, everyone wants a cub, and then what happens is the cubs grow up and then they end up with big fucking cats.
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
And it is, I won't talk to you about it, I'll let you watch it and enjoy it with someone who's, like, once you've seen it, there's no reason for me to tell you about it.
It's fucking amazing.
joe rogan
Here's the thing, man.
Even if you treat your cat really, really well, you got him in a cage.
That cat does not want to be in a fucking cage.
bert kreischer
No shit.
joe rogan
They don't want to be in a cage.
bert kreischer
We got a code red.
Someone ripped off Brenda's arm.
It is.
joe rogan
Someone ripped off someone's arm?
bert kreischer
Joe, you got to watch it.
unidentified
Bro.
bert kreischer
It is.
jamie vernon
It's 187 cats on his Oklahoma property.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
150 acres or something like that.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
Dude, it is.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
I'm going to save it for when you watch it.
joe rogan
Somebody ripped someone's arm off?
Uh-huh.
That's what happened.
bert kreischer
She went back to work seven days later.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
With no arm?
unidentified
Savage.
bert kreischer
With no fucking arm.
joe rogan
So now she has a stump.
bert kreischer
A little stump.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
Still working with big cats.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
Can you imagine if they just started eating part of you and you're like, I still got in a leg.
I get this part of my foot.
jamie vernon
The one guy found the job off Craigslist.
He's like, I've never seen anything like this.
unidentified
Fuck it.
jamie vernon
Let's do it.
It's so fucking crazy.
joe rogan
If you had a job like that, people are going to sign up.
Like, no matter what it is.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
If you had a job to go out and castrate wolves, there's going to be guys that are like, I think I can do it.
bert kreischer
By the way, we haven't even gotten to the fucking...
That's not even the crazy part.
When you get into these guys' lifestyles, this guy married one...
First of all, he's gay.
He doesn't look gay.
Married one dude, and then they brought in another dude.
They have a throuple.
That's not the crazy one.
The crazy one's the guy that lives in South Carolina that's got fucking nine wives who he grooms.
Joe, this is one...
jamie vernon
Really?
bert kreischer
Look, everyone, my special Hey Big Boy's on Netflix, but fucking watch this show first!
joe rogan
Wow, that's strong praise.
bert kreischer
It is.
joe rogan
Tiger King.
I'm writing that down.
I'm putting it on my phone.
bert kreischer
Me and the girls watched Hey Big Boy, and we fucking...
It was funny.
We giggled.
We talked through whatever.
At the end credits, I put all the stuff that's from...
I put Isla's period party cake.
I put in the credits, I put her test, my dad howling like an owl, and...
And then Big Cats comes on.
Big King?
What's it called?
joe rogan
Tiger King.
bert kreischer
Tiger King.
joe rogan
Is that it?
bert kreischer
And within 15 seconds, George and I are like, alright, everyone's up.
We found our show.
joe rogan
It's that good.
bert kreischer
It's fucking good.
It's good.
joe rogan
There's something about people and giant crazy animals, people that want to keep those animals as pets.
Like there's this Russian dude, I think, who has a polar bear and he swims with the polar bear.
Have you ever seen it?
bert kreischer
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
He's in a swimming pool with a polar bear.
He's like hanging out with the thing and cuddling with it.
And I was like, what in the fuck are you doing, man?
bert kreischer
But you don't identify with that a little bit?
Because I do.
I definitely do.
As a dude with big dogs.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's cool, you know, to watch because it's not killing him.
You know, it's like, look at it.
It's hugging him.
It's kissing him.
Until it decides not to.
Bears, I think, are a different animal.
Because if you keep bears really well fed, they're not just predators.
They're omnivores, right?
So if you keep bears really well fed, they're probably pretty chill.
And I wonder if bears are like people.
I think if you feed people only vegetables, I really believe this, they probably get less aggressive.
Because I think your body probably doesn't think you need to be chasing things and killing things because you're not eating animal protein.
So your body's like, oh, we can just relax and stroll and just pick berries and eat grasses and stuff.
You know what?
I think if you did the same thing to a bear, maybe if you just gave the bear apple pies and blueberries and stuff.
Bro, he's so big.
bert kreischer
I mean, here's the problem is I would love one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think you're allowed to have one for a real good reason.
Because there's a lot of people that shouldn't have fucking dogs, man.
You've seen bad dogs, and people have bad dogs.
There's a lot of people that shouldn't have dogs, especially in LA. Yeah, well, there's a lot of people that don't train their dogs well, and their dogs are really aggressive, and they jump up on people.
Imagine if it was a bear that did that.
Just the responsibility.
Look at the length of its neck.
It's so crazy.
They have such long necks.
But just what it is, the animal that it is, it seems ridiculous.
You should be able to have that in your backyard.
That's a polar bear.
I don't know where that guy lives.
Where is that guy?
Does it say?
bert kreischer
Oh, it's gotta be Ohio.
unidentified
Oklahoma.
bert kreischer
One of those cities.
joe rogan
Do you remember the one guy who shot himself and let all the animals out?
bert kreischer
Yeah, they talk about that on the fucking thing.
That's part of the reason that it's illegal to have fucking big cats in Ohio.
joe rogan
Because of that guy, yeah.
bert kreischer
I'd live in Ohio and raise...
I like those Savannah cats, Anthony Cumia has.
Maybe he has bangles.
joe rogan
Yeah, servals.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I like those.
joe rogan
Isn't that what they're called?
Serval cats?
Yeah.
Those are apparently never really tame.
They're never really tame.
bert kreischer
Are dogs, though?
joe rogan
Well, I think maybe it was John Jones.
I think John Jones has a couple of them, but he was feeding them.
It was either John Jones or someone else who had them.
I know John has some big cats.
bert kreischer
I bet he does.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a wild man.
bert kreischer
I want to party with that guy.
joe rogan
No, you don't.
unidentified
Yes, I do.
You think you do?
joe rogan
He'll out-party, bro.
You don't want a piece of...
John Jones goes to the Darklands.
bert kreischer
That's my new TV show.
joe rogan
There's his cat.
bert kreischer
Can you out-party me?
I just go party with John Jones, John Daly.
joe rogan
You have one episode.
You call me up and be like, I quit.
I quit my show.
I called Netflix.
I can't do this anymore.
But yeah, so he was feeding it chicken bones.
I'm not sure if it was John or someone else, but it's crazy because the cat starts making these crazy noises.
unidentified
Like...
joe rogan
Like while he's like giving it whoever the guy was it was giving the chicken bones while he's giving this cat these bones the cat is getting really angry like really like scary like you might just Jump on you and bite you like primal shit.
Yeah, they're not a regular cat dude Like if you give a regular cat a chicken bone, they'll be pumped, but they're not gonna go Yeah Crazy cat noises this thing was making.
I was like, what?
See if you can find servo cat growling while eating.
jamie vernon
There's one that's viral on TikTok that someone posts all the time.
They feed it every day.
bert kreischer
I've seen our cat catch rats.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
bert kreischer
Usually, I mean, I put it on Instagram a bunch, but it'll catch rats, bring them into the house, and then let the rat go, which is exactly what I want this cat for.
And to watch it hunt a rat is fucking fascinating.
joe rogan
It is.
It's built in.
bert kreischer
It's like you can't get that out of that cat's brain ever.
joe rogan
No.
Built in.
It's built into the system.
Yeah, that comes no matter what the cat's life is like.
I had a ragdoll cat, and she was this fluffy little ball of fur, just flopped her back and get pet all the time, and that's all she was interested in, until she saw a bird.
And then it was locked in.
Locked in, and she'd make these noises in her mouth.
I have a bit about it in my act.
bert kreischer
Oh wait, I think I saw you tell that bit.
joe rogan
That was my last special.
I had the whole bit about vegan cats.
Because some lady was mean to me and I went to her page and I looked up hashtag vegan cat.
I was like, holy fuck, this is a thing?
And then I started going down this rabbit hole of people with animals and cats in particular.
Cats are the strangest animal that we keep as pets.
And I have two of them.
I love cats.
They're sweet.
My oldest daughter has them now.
My middle daughter is allergic.
But when I'm around them, I love them.
I love them.
But you gotta do weird shit with them.
First of all, you gotta castrate the males.
You gotta fix them all.
Like, my dog Marshall, he's not fixed.
He's fine.
There's nothing wrong with him.
He's not gonna get laid.
He's around me all the time.
And it does fuck with their energy.
And it's irresponsible to have...
Dogs with testicles and just have them have a bunch of babies, unwanted babies.
You're right.
Absolutely.
But the idea that that's the only way it has to be.
The dog has to either be fixed or you're irresponsible and the dog's going to fuck a lot and make babies.
No.
You can be a responsible dog owner and the dog is not fixed and the dog has more energy.
Like police dogs, none of them are fixed.
It's for a reason.
Because when they're fixed, they stop producing testosterone.
bert kreischer
There's a lot of problems with, we got our dog Priscilla fixed at a young age, a bull mastiff.
And we found out later that when you get a dog fixed, a bull mastiff fixed too young, heads up to any bull mastiff owners, it can fuck with their joints.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have to reach physical maturity.
They have to reach physical maturity.
Yeah, your body needs the hormones that it was born with.
I mean, this is the whole idea behind, you know, like being a young, healthy dog.
And then if you trim the dog's balls, you're changing what the dog is.
And you can do that.
My point was you can do that with dogs or you can not do that with dogs.
Like you can have dogs that have their testicles, but with cats, you have to do it.
If you have a male cat, they're all fixed.
Or they will piss all over your fucking house.
Dude, it's nasty.
I had a male cat that was a feral cat that I raised.
And I had to corral him in the bathroom.
In order to trap him and bring him to the veterinarian to fix him.
And while he's corralling him, he pissed on the wall.
He lifted up his tail and pissed all over the wall.
I was like, dude, what the fuck?
And I threw a towel or a bathrobe or something over him and I scooped him up and I fought with this cat, fought with him, and stuffed him into a laundry basket and took him to get fixed.
You have to get him fixed, man.
bert kreischer
Fighting a cat is fucking, it shows you just how weak you are.
joe rogan
He's so little, too.
He wasn't a big cat.
And at the time, he wasn't even a year old, you know, because I was getting him fixed.
So I think you get him fixed like seven, eight, nine months, something like that.
But she was ready to fuck me up, man.
It was hard.
So I had to corral him, get him into this fucking laundry basket, bring him to Dr. Craig, who was my veterinarian in Encino, before he passed.
Rest in peace.
He was a great guy.
And then when I was bringing him to him, I'm like, he's in there.
Are you guys going to be able to get him out?
You want me to stay?
And they're like, no, I think we're going to be able to handle it.
And then afterwards, I came by to pick up the cat.
He was like, what the fuck?
I go, yeah, dude.
It's a feral cat.
bert kreischer
You'll only say yes to some kid one time who was like, hey, can you help me get my cat out of the tree?
And I was like, yeah, sure.
One time.
And then you fight a cat in a tree and you're like, fuck this.
joe rogan
You can't do that.
Cats in a tree, man.
First of all, without a ladder, you might fall.
And even with a ladder, you might fall.
They might jump on you and bite you and you might freak out and spaz.
Like a cat is freaked out for its life up in a tree and it doesn't know how to get down.
They might fucking cut you.
bert kreischer
Dude, and once they hook on to you, they hook on to you and they just start fucking trying to gut you.
joe rogan
Yeah, my cat that was feral, he was a trip.
I would never have a feral cat again, but I had like a crazy connection with him because he was, you know, he was like a legit wild cat.
Like when I first got him, I had to lock myself in a bedroom and hang out with him for a few days.
Just read books and had a litter box and brought food in there.
So just me and him hanging out together because he was really little.
But when I would pet him, he would be fine.
He would purr really loud.
He would be fine.
But as soon as I put him down, he'd hiss at me and run away and try to climb up the curtains.
He went crazy.
So I had a spare bedroom in this house I was living in in Encino, and I just set the bedroom up.
I set it up for just me and the cat.
I'm like, all right, dude, we're going to get to know each other.
This is the kind of shit things you do when you're 27. You don't have a girlfriend.
You're like, I'm just gonna fucking live with this cat for a while, because me and this cat are gonna hang out.
So I just read books for two days, locked in this bedroom with this fucking wild cat, and he would calm down for a little bit, let me purr, let me pet him, and then he would purr, and I'd let him go, and he'd hiss at me and run away.
This went on for two fucking days.
And then finally, by the end of two days, he was pretty chill.
By the end of two days, like, this guy just seems to pet me and give me food.
You know, so I could always come up to him and pet him.
I could always, but no one else could.
No one.
None of my friends.
No one could come over and pet that cat.
Just me.
I was the only one he had an agreement with.
He was super cool with other cats.
Like, when I brought other cats in, like, I kept, I stayed with him for two days, then I introduced him to my other cat, Spaz.
Spaz was the fluff dog cat.
And then they got along instantly.
Like, they were like, yeah.
He was like, oh, cats.
I can trust cats.
And she's like, I don't know any other cats.
And they just fucking hung out together.
I never met another cat.
It was fucking great.
bert kreischer
It's like transplants and automobiles, one stock candy.
joe rogan
I had this other cat that I had from the time when I was like 25 and that cat was a cunt.
And she didn't like anybody but me.
She just was a cunty cat.
Always was a cunty cat.
She was just a weird cat.
Some cats are just weird, man.
And then my other cat, the fluffball cat, she fucking loved everybody.
Everybody that came over, she'd rub on your leg and you'd pet her and she'd purr.
Everybody loved her.
You could scoop her up and just start rubbing her belly and she would purr.
Anybody could pick her up.
But the cats, they are their own little thing.
Every one of them has got their own little personality.
Like Joey Diaz, you talked to him about his cats.
At one point in time, I don't know how many he has now, but he had 11 cats.
In like a two-bedroom apartment.
And I was like, that is so insane.
And they all had personalities, man.
Some of them, he was the only one that could touch, and other ones, you know, they were real friendly with everybody.
Cats are a trip, but you have to fix them.
That was my point.
You can have a dog that has balls, and they're great.
Like my dog, Marshall, he's great.
He's not aggressive at all, and he's three.
bert kreischer
He seems like a fucking cool dog.
joe rogan
He's the sweetest.
He's the sweetest.
But you can't do that with cats.
You have to fix all of them.
They'll piss all over your house.
Have you ever seen a male cat that hasn't been fixed that lives on a farm?
Bro, they don't even look the same.
They have these big heads.
They have big pit bull heads.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
Alley cats.
That are not fixed or barnyard cats.
They're famous for being vicious animals.
They're different.
They look different.
They have their balls.
They're thick.
They have muscles.
Yeah, they have thick heads.
bert kreischer
I guess I've only seen female cats and kittens.
When I think about it, like my wife, my wife lived on a, her grandmother has a barn, like a big farm.
And there's always cats there, but I think I've only seen the females and the kittens.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're probably seeing females, kittens, and fixed males.
You see castrated males.
They're different.
They don't pee everywhere.
And they're more chill.
Dude, if you see a fucking barnyard cat with his balls, like those are sketchy animals.
bert kreischer
I remember back in the day when you'd be like, ah, a cat sprayed in my car.
That doesn't happen anymore, but back in Florida, you just leave your windows down.
A cat sprayed in my car one time, and I was like, fuck.
It smells like shit.
They spray everywhere.
joe rogan
They spray in your house.
I would open up my gym bag.
My cat would piss in my gym bag.
bert kreischer
Oh, we had dogs that pissed all over.
Shit.
I remember one time I was in the car with my girlfriend in college, and we had a dog, Thelma, that pissed all over everything.
I was with my little sister's in the back, and this girl leans forward, and there's like a brown stand on her back.
I go, hey, what's on the back of your shirt?
And she goes, oh, I must have spilled soda on my shirt.
And my little sister's tan at the time, she goes, you drink soda over your shoulder?
She was like, huh?
And my little sister goes, I think our dog pissed on your shirt.
And the girl's like, no, no, that's not.
And Connie's like, no, no, I'm pretty sure I smelled it.
And you're like, yeah, she pissed on her fucking shirt.
joe rogan
Wow.
Dogs will piss on your bed if they're mad at you.
Cats will piss on your bed if they're mad at you.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'll piss on your pillow.
bert kreischer
Oh, fuck that.
I was never a cat person.
I was always a dog person.
Dog and reptiles.
I was into reptiles for a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm fascinated by animals.
I love animals.
But for companions, it's hard to beat a dog.
bert kreischer
So if you could go through with all the dogs you ever owned, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Reboot one genetically and get that exact same dog back today.
Can't do Marshall because Marshall's already here.
joe rogan
I had a Mastiff named Johnny Cash.
bert kreischer
I met Johnny Cash.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's the sweetest dog ever.
bert kreischer
It's the first time I met you.
joe rogan
He's the sweetest dog ever.
I loved him.
He's a sweetheart.
He just, it was real sad watching him age because at the end he couldn't walk and I used to have to pick him up and bring him in the house to eat and then I would carry him outside again to see if he had to go to the bathroom.
But he was, at a certain point in his life, he really could only lie down.
bert kreischer
How old did he get?
joe rogan
Thirteen, which is very, very old for a Mastiff.
But it was really sad seeing him slip away.
It was rough.
You know?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's such a short amount of time.
bert kreischer
It really is.
joe rogan
Thirteen years.
bert kreischer
Priscilla's nine right now.
And, I mean, it feels like yesterday we got her.
We got a new puppy to kind of keep her young.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
This puppy's a cunt.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
Oh, no.
bert kreischer
Just so much energy.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I was going down on Leanne the other day and the puppy just jumps on the bed.
Are we fucking this bitch?
Just starts licking her face.
I'm like, God damn it.
joe rogan
What a rude dog.
Doesn't understand its place.
bert kreischer
You can't work out in front of this dog.
He's like, oh, we're doing jumping jacks, huh?
joe rogan
Oh, really?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's a baby.
bert kreischer
I had a joke that in the old set that'll probably be retired now that we're not doing Santa for eight weeks.
joe rogan
At least eight weeks, man.
Can you believe that?
It's probably going to be several months before...
unidentified
June?
joe rogan
Easily.
Could be longer.
It could be, you know, maybe they find medication that, even though there's not a vaccine, there's some hope for a few different kinds of medication.
One of them is a malaria drug.
I can't pronounce the name off the top of my head.
And there's another one that shows promise as well.
And they think that it might be possible that people could catch this and you would give them the medication, it would wipe it out.
There's also, there was some speculation about Tamiflu, but I don't think there's any conclusive evidence that shows that Tamiflu helps it.
But there is some, these anti-malarial medications, I think, that they think has promise.
But what concerns me is that it seems to be so different with different people.
That's what's weird about this.
It makes it, like, what's scary right now for everybody is the unknown.
Like, we're in the unknown.
Like, now, we've never been in this situation before as a culture.
We're on lockdown, and the whole world is scared of a disease.
Not in our lifetimes.
I mean, not since, like, the Spanish flu.
And back then, there wasn't as much transportation.
There wasn't as much distribution of information, so people probably weren't as aware as we are now, you know, of all the various cases all around them all the time.
Because, you know, we're hearing about cases in Italy and fucking Australia, everywhere.
We're hearing about cases all over the planet.
I don't think that was the case back during the Spanish Flu days.
I think it was probably harder to understand what was happening.
Right?
Because you probably only got the newspaper and the radio back then.
And everybody had to huddle around at a certain time.
And those are the masters of information.
Whatever they said, that was it.
But now you get all sorts of conflicting information, even from doctors, man.
I've read doctors that think it's nothing.
And then I've read doctors that were terrified.
It's like, whoa, this is nuts.
And then, you know, you look at...
I don't know if you've been paying attention to what these senators did.
There's some senators, they had a behind-closed-doors meeting about the coronavirus in China and what it could mean to the United States and, you know, the various impacts.
And they went out and sold their stock.
bert kreischer
Immediately.
joe rogan
Dude.
But at the same time, they were talking about how under control the government had it and how we're prepared and how it's going to be fine.
And meanwhile, they knew.
They knew.
So they had two faces.
They had a public face that they were giving to us to try to keep us calm.
And then they had a private face, which realized that the stock market was going to take a huge loss.
And so they sold everything and made immense profits based on the information that they found out from these closed-door meetings about the coronavirus.
bert kreischer
How is that legal?
How are they supposed to handle, though, out of, like, legally, what are they supposed to do?
Because that makes it confusing.
joe rogan
I don't know what constitutes insider trading.
How does that work?
Do you understand how that works?
I do not.
Like if you have information that can allow you to make money, well, isn't that like what everyone's trying to do?
Like what is the point of playing the stock market if you don't know things?
And if you do know things, if you know more because you know the guy who's the president and he tells you something about something they're going to do and you're not supposed to trade then because of that information?
Like, all right.
Okay.
I'm sure there's a logic to it.
I'm a moron.
Don't run it by me.
But if that's insider trading, well, what is it what the senators do?
If they knew that the coronavirus is going to wreck our economy, if they knew that it was coming down like a fucking storm of hail that no one could stop, if they knew, and then they bailed out and made immense profits.
That seems so shady.
It seems so shady that they didn't advise people.
You're supposed to be a leader, right?
If you're in a position of an elected representative, you're supposed to be acting in the position of a leader.
And if your way to lead is tell people one thing but act in a completely different direction, tell people everything's going to be fine, but then start selling your stock at a profit, And you don't tell other people to do it because you're worried that maybe that information is going to cause some ripple effect and it's going to destroy the economy even before the coronavirus hits just out of panic and fear and people are going to act wrong.
But you acted in a different way than the way you were talking.
You acted like this shit was going to be real.
You acted like this is going to be a real problem.
And then the question is like how much of a problem did they think it was going to be?
Maybe they dumped their stock they thought it was going to be a little problem.
Would that be okay?
But if they found out it was going to be a huge problem, then it's not.
Well, that seems weird to me, too.
Like, I don't know what should the rules be with information and the stock market.
The stock market is gross.
Like, the whole thing's gross.
Like, what are we basing our economy on?
This fucking madness?
bert kreischer
It's not the way that the 2009 breakdown was.
2008, when the stock market crashed, it was based on literal numbers and investments.
joe rogan
This is real.
bert kreischer
No, no, I would actually say that one was more real than this one.
This is a, the stock market's crashed in a way that you're going like, it's based on, I mean, I know that it's for commercial businesses, their loans are going to come up and it's going to be tough for them, but at some point you're like, I wish we could just put it on freeze and go, hey, let's come back in like two months and let's start where we were.
Let's make sure everyone was fed.
Like that's...
joe rogan
But Bert, this is the ultimate real.
Because if it's supposed to be about confidence and things rising and falling, this is like the ultimate expression of that.
There's no confidence.
You can't work.
bert kreischer
Of course it's gonna crash.
joe rogan
If it doesn't crash here, then it's nonsense.
Then what's the point?
Because there's times where everything's groovy.
People are buying like crazy.
Manufacturing is up.
Everything's up.
Everybody's happy.
Consumer satisfaction's up.
And people are buying like crazy and there's so many industries that are happening and there's so many jobs and unemployment.
unidentified
It's the lowest rate it's ever been ever in the history of people.
joe rogan
And then all of a sudden it's not anymore?
Well, of course it's going to crash.
So it's going to crash.
This is the crash.
This is the big one.
This is the big one of our lifetime, maybe the biggest one ever.
Because this shit could go on for a long-ass time.
bert kreischer
This is scary too because you think of all those people who are paycheck to paycheck with waiting tables or teaching a spin class or whatever it is.
That's where my brain goes.
There's got to be a way to fucking help people.
joe rogan
Yeah, there does.
bert kreischer
I mean, that's all I do all day is spend, like, the other day I hit a McDonald's.
I was like, say there's a way to buy a bunch of Happy Meals I could send to a neighborhood.
joe rogan
You could do that with certain restaurants.
You could support restaurants.
One of my favorite restaurants in Vegas, Gaetano's, is in Henderson.
And they used to be in Calabasas.
We used to go to them way back in the day.
But they're doing a lot of takeout, and then they're also raising money for their employers, which is very nice.
And I think the store's doing something like that.
We're all going to donate.
For the waitstaff, you know, because the waitstaff is completely shit out of luck, and they were doing, you know, good business down there.
And so those folks, I'm sure they have bills, like serious fucking bills.
And it's just piling up, and there's no business, you know?
I mean, they went from having this great place where you can go, and you can count on X amount of money per week, to all of a sudden, gone, and no one saw it coming.
That's never happened.
Ever.
You can't blame them for not being prepared, but, you know, they're part of our comedy family, man.
We gotta take care of them, particularly at the store.
We should set up something for the improv, too.
And we should also, you know, just figure out a way to, you know, to, like, find out who's hurting, like, who's in trouble.
Especially in our community.
Like, comics that we know...
bert kreischer
People are too proud.
joe rogan
I know, but we don't find them though, because there's a lot of comics in our community that are going check to check too, you know, middle acts.
bert kreischer
Yeah, headliners.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of headliners, right?
Particularly first few year headliners, where you're only making X amount per week, and you've got to pay your own flight and all that jazz.
You're getting by, but you're not killing it.
And then you probably have a fucking apartment that costs two grand a month or more.
I mean, New York City, those guys, the fucking apartments in New York City are ridiculous.
They're so expensive.
So think of all those comics in New York City that relied on that system of going club to club and picking up a little...
For people who don't know, a lot of comedians in New York, there's like...
New York's probably the most condensed comedy club community in the country.
Wouldn't you agree?
bert kreischer
By far.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How many clubs do you think are in the city?
I'd say 12. Are you counting danger fields?
bert kreischer
Never got to perform there.
I've always wanted to perform there.
joe rogan
Joey did it.
Joey was in New York.
That was my spot when I lived in New York, man.
bert kreischer
It's amazing how a comic can think in another comic's level, because as soon as you said that, my two clubs, I thought of Stand Up New York and Dangerfields.
I'm counting those.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta count those.
But Dangerfields is the weirdest one, because that was the one where they filmed those HBO specials with Rodney Dangerfield.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And It was always empty.
It was always empty.
There was never anybody there, man, except prom season.
Prom season, you'd be doing stand-up to, like, 17-year-old kids, and it was madness.
It was madness.
bert kreischer
Do you ever hear a story, Bill Burr's story about getting heckled to dangerous fields?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
It's my favorite.
I've made Bill tell this a number of times, and I've made him tell it on our podcast.
My favorite podcast story.
You remember Bill when he was younger, right?
He was a little more cleaner, a little more, like, tippier.
Hey, guys.
Huh?
Huh?
What's up with those infomercials?
unidentified
I got the pan.
bert kreischer
Dang, dang, dang, dang, dang.
So, Bill's doing his high-energy, happy act, and it's to a prom crowd and a bunch of fucking bridge and tunnel posse, and it's not getting anything.
And this guy in the back goes, anything red on stage is a faggot!
unidentified
And Bill goes, I didn't have one pullout.
bert kreischer
I just went, fuck.
God, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, that one you gotta be prepared for.
bert kreischer
But yeah, I think about it.
The number one thing this whole thing has done is made me think how much I waste shit.
I waste so much shit.
Just food.
Fruit.
joe rogan
Like fruit.
bert kreischer
Bananas are going bad.
Just throw them out.
unidentified
No, no, no.
bert kreischer
I've been eating them.
Like it's waste and health, man.
When I heard you tell that podcast, and I'm so glad to know that you were talking to me because I heard it as if you were talking to me.
I told Brian Callen, I go, you ever do a podcast and you think Joe's talking to you?
And he goes, all the fucking time.
joe rogan
I'm never talking to you, Brian Callen.
Never.
If I'm talking to Brian Callen, I'll call him up.
bert kreischer
He said, no, he said, he goes, one time Joe even said my name.
The one thing that made me feel vulnerable was, and you've been saying this, and I've always kind of written you off about it, going like, well, you know, whatever.
You've got to get off that blood pressure medicine.
The second I heard China's got all our medication, I got one month of blood pressure.
I literally thought, Man, what am I doing on blood pressure medicine?
Why don't I just get in shape and get healthy and get in control of my weight so I'm not dependent on a pill to come in and then if I don't have it, I have a stroke.
joe rogan
You can do it too, Bert.
It's not outside of the realm of possibility when you consider how well you're doing while you're boozing as hard as you are.
And you always fire up for Sober October.
The first year I was worried.
I was like, man, I don't know how he's going to do.
And some people were actually telling me, like, hey man, he could die.
They're like, when guys drink a lot and then they stop drinking, it's really bad.
And apparently that's what killed Amy Winehouse.
Everyone kept telling me that.
That's what killed Amy Winehouse, you know.
Did you know that, bro?
It's one thing when you host a podcast and you have a fucking thousand of them, people want to tell you shit that you haven't heard before.
So one of the things that people love to tell you is about you could die.
If you stop drinking, you could die.
bert kreischer
You told me that and you said to me, when we were leaving, you were like, you gave me a hug and you go, you don't have to do this, man.
And I went, what the fuck?
I was like, I was flipped out.
joe rogan
I was worried because I was like, damn it.
Imagine this is how we kill Burt.
Imagine trying to get Burt healthy like it turns out to kill him.
Amy Winehouse style.
Dude, I love Amy Winehouse.
bert kreischer
Oh, she was amazing.
joe rogan
To this day, I will throw on an album and listen to Rehab or some of her great songs.
She had an authenticity.
There's like an authenticity to her voice.
This unmistakable looseness to her voice.
She was wild.
bert kreischer
Her and Bjork.
I used to love Bjork.
joe rogan
Yeah, Bjork is great too, man.
bert kreischer
Dude, she was.
joe rogan
In a totally different way.
I had to pause.
It's a totally different kind of sound, but authentic.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And so sexy, man.
Bjork was so hot.
And just doing her own thing, like electronic music in this time when it wasn't selling here, but it was like...
You ever hear that song, It's Oh So Quiet by Bjork?
unidentified
No.
bert kreischer
It's oh so quiet.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Did you ever see Bjork fuck up that photographer at the airport?
unidentified
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
She got my respect there.
This person thought they could just get right in her face with a camera just because she's famous.
Like, with no permits.
This is not agreed upon.
You just show up where a person's just at the airport.
bert kreischer
With her kid.
Bjork was with her kid.
How do you deal with that?
joe rogan
Most of the time, if someone wants to be interviewing me when I'm at the airport or somewhere where I'm not, I'm not expecting it.
It's just not smart.
I do this.
The way you have conversations, your thoughts that are going to get viewed by millions of people shouldn't be something that you say when you have your first cup of coffee and maybe you're half on an edible coming off the flight.
And you're picking up your luggage, and you didn't expect to run into TMZ. And they're like, what do you think about the coronavirus?
And they're like, stop eating bats, you fucks!
You don't mean that!
You don't mean that!
But you're there at fucking LAX at 7.30 in the morning getting your bags.
That's the problem.
It's not smart.
And then there was a weird thing that happened during the Roseanne times.
And Roseanne was going to do the podcast for the first time, for the second time, rather.
And she had that crazy controversy and they removed her from her show and the whole deal.
Dude, they were showing up at places where we weren't.
With cameras.
They were showing up at the comedy store with cameras trying to capture, like as if like, oh you got me on camera, I gotta talk to you I guess.
What the news is, if you watch like local news, it's a bunch of people pointing cameras at stuff and then loosely applying journalistic ethics to see like what they talk about and what they don't and what they feed you over the next half hour and they want to be number one in the ratings because you know like Channel 7 right now is kicking our ass and I just really feel like we gotta get on the scene quicker.
It becomes a sport.
This is not necessarily the information.
There's personalities, and jobs are at risk, and there's so many factors that are contributing and moving what you listen to and see in a certain direction.
The news.
It's a news program.
It's their interpretation of what they think is the most important stuff to focus on over the next X amount of minutes.
Because life is too fucking nuts!
We have access to the whole world!
You gonna break the whole world down in 60 minutes?
It's an editing show!
Because you can't show everything.
There's millions of things that are fascinating that are going on right now.
Positive and negative.
So they balance it out.
What are they going to do?
A Calabasas woman found out the hard way.
You can't...
And they show a puppy peeing on her.
Oh, that was great.
That was great.
Now let's get back to murder and death and fucking thievery.
bert kreischer
I said to someone, I said, do you think that this...
Coronavirus coverage is based on the news, like saying we're taking back the news and someone was like, no man, they've been getting their asses handed to them for so long by Trump that this is where they're making their money back.
And then you wonder, like, I like Chris Cuomo.
I like him.
I actually like him.
joe rogan
Did you get upset when he got mad at that guy about the Fredo thing?
I got upset for him.
I wish I was there.
Don't say that.
It's not like the N-word.
unidentified
Don't say that.
Don't say that.
joe rogan
I understand this guy's a dick and you're letting him know he can't be a dick to you, but let's relax.
bert kreischer
It was such...
joe rogan
It's provoked, though.
And he was trying to get out of it.
You know what it's like?
It's like doing jujitsu and you make a terrible mistake and all of a sudden you're trapped in someone's triangle.
You just gotta tap out.
You gotta tap out and you gotta live to fight another day.
You got caught.
Don't get your neck fucked up.
Don't let this guy hurt you.
bert kreischer
And when he was trying to save ego, when the guy called him Fredo, First of all, the guy that called him afraid is a cunt because that's such a shit move to do.
Just as a passerby.
They did it to George Lopez at a Hooters one time.
joe rogan
George Lopez?
Who did it to George Lopez?
bert kreischer
Someone did it to George.
I think it was George Lopez.
Said something like build a wall or something and they videotape it.
They want to go viral.
That's what they want.
So they call from Fredo and they're videotaping it.
They're looking for reactions so they can get views.
That's a cunt move.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
But Fredo made me giggle.
joe rogan
It's funny.
unidentified
It's such a funny fucking...
joe rogan
It's such a silly thing to say.
But to say that that's like the N-word to African Americans.
Dude, nobody owned Fredo.
bert kreischer
Stop.
unidentified
Relax.
bert kreischer
He almost made it more enjoyable.
I was watching that.
joe rogan
He did make it more enjoyable.
It was so ridiculous.
If you watch Godfather 2, you wouldn't be able to think of anything but Chris Cuomo.
When you're watching that scene, you would think of him.
bert kreischer
Oh, I think of...
I call him Fredo when he comes on the TV. I go, hell no, I love Fredo.
I love him, though.
I love him.
I say it with an A. Fredo.
joe rogan
And his brother is the governor of New York.
bert kreischer
They look strikingly alike.
joe rogan
Well, they look like brothers, because they are.
bert kreischer
I saw him on TV today.
joe rogan
I'm very impressed with how his brother is responding to this, though.
I understand that there was a certain point in time where he wasn't sure whether or not they could really shut down New York.
But now, the way he's responding to it, that's just the way he carries himself.
He's a no-nonsense person, the way he carries himself.
Yeah.
I don't know anything about his politics.
I don't know anything about what he does.
But you can sort of at least gather from the way someone handles a crisis, like how they carry themselves.
You gather whether or not you can trust them if shit gets crazy.
And he seems to carry himself very well.
It's like that's very important for just the morale of the nation in a weird way.
That's why a leader is very important because when someone's a real leader and even though there's going to be people that hate them, people that are pissed at everything they do, and that's always going to be the case if you're the leader of the free world, right?
But if they can somehow or another shift The way we feel about ourselves.
Shift the way we feel about our community.
There's like pep speeches and a really good presidential address.
A really good one just gets into that feel-good spot and brings everybody together.
And it really has a tangible effect on reality.
It can really affect reality.
And that's what people don't understand about why people get upset about people not being able to talk well.
It's a big fucking deal.
People are like, why are you joking on Joe Biden?
Because it's a big deal.
He's in the biggest fucking sweepstakes on earth.
Who gets to control all the thermonuclear weapons and the entire economy and everything that gets done inside the United States of America?
One guy.
unidentified
Ready?
joe rogan
Go.
Like, what?
unidentified
You've got to be able to talk really well if you want that job.
joe rogan
Because part of the job is inspiring people.
It's one of the things Obama did better than any of them.
You could say what you want about Clinton, he had some good speeches too.
I think Obama was even better, because he was just measured and intelligent and articulate and strong.
There was something about the way he was talking that was confidence-inspiring.
Whether or not he was right or not, whether or not he made bad decisions, I don't think anybody can do that fucking job.
I don't.
I think it's a death sentence.
I think it is for all of them.
I think they get in there and there's a tornado of things that they have to control.
Things they have to pay attention to.
Things they're responsible for.
Hundreds of different fucking pieces of motion all over the world.
All these pieces in motion.
All these pieces.
And you're supposed to be the one guy that makes the right decisions on all of those and chooses the right people for both pandemics and the economy.
How about just one?
Do you even understand one?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
unidentified
And then international relations on top of that?
joe rogan
Holy fuck!
And then you gotta go to North Korea.
Now we're in China.
bert kreischer
It's too many things to juggle.
joe rogan
Bro, it's madness!
bert kreischer
That's why Reagan, you know, I wonder if it's where we're going back is to a Reagan, like a, did you see Matthew McConaughey's speech?
joe rogan
No, I did not.
Is it good?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Well, it's Matthew McConaughey, right?
Like, we all bought into him in the mid-90s.
Like, this is our dream hunk.
joe rogan
He's one of our dream hunks for sure.
unidentified
God, man.
bert kreischer
He just sits there and he's just with that Texas drawl about red lights and green lights.
It's a yellow light.
Right now we're going...
And it just...
I get out and I got...
I get like...
I got sat up in bed and I was like, I'm going to go fucking work out, man.
Like, this isn't...
We can do this.
joe rogan
Well, I think for the people like you and I, who you're going to be okay financially, it's not as scary.
It's a different thing.
But for the people where financially it's going to affect them greatly, there has to be real big decisions made to help those people.
Because this is not a situation of people not wanting to work.
It's a situation of people not being able to work because of an invisible enemy that kills your loved ones.
bert kreischer
Jesus.
joe rogan
Like, if there's ever a time where the United States has to come together, this is the time.
And I think we're capable of doing that.
And I think if we do the right thing and we come out on the other side, I think we're gonna be stronger.
I think we're gonna be stronger in not dismissing the losses and the people that are gonna badly miss loved ones.
I'm not even trying to diminish that.
I'm just trying to say for the people that will survive, we're going to understand what it's like to go through a real adversity together for the first time in a long time as a planet.
Not just as the United States, not as Germany, not as Japan, not as Iraq.
No, the whole thing together because it's everywhere.
And the whole thing together is a giant problem for everybody that survives.
And for everybody that survives, no matter how bad it gets or how good it gets or whether it morphs and changes or whether it doesn't, the people that survive, we have to learn from this.
We gotta learn.
We gotta learn in every way.
And we gotta learn...
And I'm learning.
I'm learning right now, my own personal self, how I'm shifting how I view the world.
That everything has to go back to me being able to do shows whenever I want, and do stand-up whenever I want, and travel wherever I want to go, and not worry about killer violence.
Everything has to go back to that, because that's what I'm used to.
Well, no.
You know history.
You know how the world works.
There's countless examples of civilizations that no longer exist.
They got wiped out by plague or natural disasters.
We are well aware of this, but yet none of it ever registers.
And we never think it applies to us.
We never think that this is it.
This is the one.
This is the one we've got to really pay attention.
No.
You see them kicking all the people off the beach?
The Malibu, they said Santa Monica, they're like, we're closing the beach, you fucks!
This isn't vacation!
People are down there just suntanning and hanging out.
bert kreischer
My girls wanted to go for a hike yesterday, and I went, think of all the morons that are out hiking.
joe rogan
The thing is that this required us to act fast, and I think the human race is giant, and it's so huge.
The number's so spectacular.
To get all of us to coordinate together, I think it's like an impossibly long battleship.
Think of a battleship that's like 100 times bigger than a regular battleship.
Just a battleship.
You think, how fast did that thing turn?
It's got to be so slow!
bert kreischer
I never thought about that.
It's fucking huge!
joe rogan
Right?
It's not like one of them speed boats so you can just...
You know?
If you're on a battleship, that motherfucker's hard to turn.
And I think the human race is like...
It's an impossible-to-imagine battleship.
It's like a battleship 100,000 times bigger than any other battleship.
It's so big, it takes up like one-tenth of the ocean.
That's how big this battle...
And when that motherfucker has to turn, it's like...
It can barely turn.
That's us.
And I think this thing required us to turn.
We ran into like an iceberg.
There's a giant thing ahead of us.
Something hit us.
This change in a virus that jumped to human beings and we have no immunity for it.
And that's what it's like.
It's like our battleship does not turn quick enough.
For this, and we didn't have the proper preparation for something like this.
Because we didn't see it, even though we knew it was possible, we didn't see it happening to us.
We made some preparations, but I don't know.
Did we ever figure out whether or not the government actually did stop this pandemic office and close down this pandemic office?
Is that true?
Remember we were trying to look at that the other day?
jamie vernon
Digging through that was not fun.
Something was changed.
I don't know about closing the thing.
It's an interpretation sort of discussion that, like, I don't know.
joe rogan
Huh.
jamie vernon
I was trying to dig through, like, PolitiFact and all sorts of websites that, like, it took too long to find a good answer that was worth sharing.
So, like, I'm going with, like, I don't know.
joe rogan
What did you think, though, when you read it?
Like, what were they specifically saying?
jamie vernon
Definitely there's different people in place, and one of the things I read along the path was that there was a meeting about possible pandemics with a team of people in an office.
Those people are no longer there, though.
There might be people that have replaced them because of how many people have changed over in the administration.
So the people that are in those places now weren't at the meeting, so they never got those notes, basically.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
But I don't know if that's what happened.
bert kreischer
But that's the same stuff that happened in 9-11.
They're like, these were all warned.
Like, it's interesting to see hindsight really in action where you're like, I have this comedian, this very hilarious comedian who doesn't do comedy anymore, a woman named Andy Smith.
In fucking early February, she sent me a text that I figured she had postpartum depression.
I was like, oh, she's lost her mind.
That's too bad.
She was really funny.
She had a kid.
Must be going through a divorce.
And it was, hey, I've been translating these Chinese documents.
This flu is going to get a lot worse than anyone thinks.
We need to stay home.
You need to start spreading the word.
You have a podcast.
Like, I mean.
joe rogan
Whoa, so you thought.
I thought she was fucking crazy.
How long ago was that?
How many weeks ago was that?
bert kreischer
I'll pull it up right now.
She just texted me last night.
This was...
February 15th.
She wrote, Hey, I don't have glasses.
Hey, it's me again.
I've been Googling, translating the shit out of this virus situation for weeks.
Stop traveling.
Tell everyone to stop right now.
I know, I know.
I come off.
I can't fucking read.
I don't have glasses.
joe rogan
Here, look at these bad boys.
bert kreischer
Here, yeah.
joe rogan
Try to see how blind I am.
bert kreischer
Oh, wow.
We're the same.
But come the fuck off, are we really going to wait until they tell us to stay off the streets?
That's where we are today.
That would be too late, right?
Honestly, everyone should just call us sick Tuesday.
What are they going to do?
Suit up, fellas.
Come on over and see if I'm lying.
It's genius, really.
It's probably the most American-y protest thing ever.
Just lazy paid refusal.
And probably our last chance to legally shift power back to the people who are forcibly dragging us back in SUVs.
Maybe you're already in a safe hillside bunker.
I hope so.
Sorry for the downer rant.
I'm sending this to all the smart people I know.
Four of you.
Because all my dumb whore friends have no grasp on strategy or intuition.
Fuck.
Stay home.
Learn to knit.
Learn how to knit a face mask.
I wish we could all stay home and jump the gun.
Save ourselves.
And then I wrote on fucking the day my special dropped.
On fucking March.
A month later I wrote...
Oh shit, you were right.
And then she texted me a bunch of medications to get and I bought them all.
Dude, and by the way, not to discount her, she was a fucking tits hilarious comedian.
joe rogan
Why'd she stop doing stand-up?
bert kreischer
She had a baby.
She got a major beef with like Schumer and Nikki Glaser.
Like legit fucking...
This chick was a little...
She was rough, man.
She was rough.
joe rogan
Catfight?
bert kreischer
Hardcore.
On Last Comic Standing.
Called Adam Hunter a cunt.
Like just fucking burn it to the ground.
joe rogan
Why'd she call Adam Hunter a cunt?
bert kreischer
Because she just...
That's who she is.
She's a fucking...
Man.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
bert kreischer
He's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
Him and her got onto it on screen.
joe rogan
Oh no.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
But she's...
She's wild, man.
She stole Jim Jeffery's sunglasses.
Like, fucking, real fucking wild chick.
But she sent that to me, like, that much...
joe rogan
A month ago.
bert kreischer
And I just was like, oh, postpartum, she's crazy.
Poor girl.
joe rogan
They're saying the Senators, these closed-door meetings that they had, this closed-door meeting, that was in January.
There's a guy, a respectable lawyer that I follow on Twitter.
He's the one who sent it to me.
And he had a series of tweets about it, documenting it, laying it out, and you read it and you go, oh my god.
It's like, did they really know?
Again, it goes back to that thing, like, what are you supposed to do?
Are you allowed to just start talking about that this is coming?
If you're a senator and you find out about something, what are your responsibilities?
Do they give you a mandate on what you're allowed to talk about or not allowed to talk about?
If they sit you down and have some crazy meeting where they tell you the sky is falling, what are you allowed to say?
Do they tell you when you're allowed to say it?
How does that work?
bert kreischer
Black Twitter says that this was a distraction because there's a comment hitting us.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
bert kreischer
Yeah, our bus driver's black, and he was like, you know what this means?
joe rogan
Why would they want to make life suck right before the fucking big one hits?
How cunty?
You know, now that I'm thinking about it, it might not have been Peter Attia that said that, I don't want to attribute this to him, just in case I'm wrong, that said that people that are around it more often seem to get sicker.
It might have been something.
I don't want to look right now, but let's just take that away from him.
But if that is the case, It's so different than anything else.
It's weird.
What's weird to me is how some people, apparently nothing happens, and other people just get wrecked.
We're talking about the same thing.
What is this thing?
bert kreischer
I had H1N1. Did you really?
Yeah.
I just figured it out a couple days ago.
It was the sickest I've ever been in my fucking life.
And I was like, and I mean, I mark it down as like, I thought I was going to die.
joe rogan
Was that over, did H1N1 happen a lot in America, or was it mostly overseas?
bert kreischer
It happened, I was talking to Drew on my podcast, it happened around 2009 in December, November, December is when we had an outbreak.
joe rogan
In America?
bert kreischer
In America.
And my cousin had it, Dr. Drew was telling me about his experience, and I was like, man, that's so fucking crazy.
And I told him like, oh, the sickest I've ever been, and I recounted it.
Then I go through my Facebook photos and I look.
That's December 2009. And I go, dude, I got H1N1. It was, I'm telling you when I say, I've never felt like that when you don't get oxygen.
You're kind of breathing, but you're not getting oxygen into your lungs.
And my wife didn't get it.
My wife didn't get it.
My kids didn't get it.
My mom didn't get it.
I was with all of them.
And then my wife and I got on a plane and I drank.
And that is what fucked me up.
I drank and I got into Mexico and I was, I mean...
Without a doubt, the sickest I've ever been.
The sickest.
I mean, gasping for breath, could not be comfortable, throwing up, chills.
It was...
The worst chest infection.
I've always written it off to walking pneumonia.
And then we were talking about it, and I was like, December 2009?
That's exactly when I fucking got it.
joe rogan
Wow.
That one had a really high fatalization rate.
bert kreischer
Within 40 to 50 year olds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Is that a word?
joe rogan
Fatalization?
Sounds right.
Fatality rate is what I should have said, but I said fatalization.
But I was thinking, you can't even say it that way.
It's funny how saying something wrong the wrong way just immediately makes you a fucking moron.
You can say the most interesting and complicated shit ever, but then you said, and then the fatalization of it all.
Like, what?
What the fuck did you say?
Fatalization.
Bitch, you fraud.
bert kreischer
It's like when you use, do you ever use a saying wrong?
Yes.
I pitched a movie in Hollywood and I used salt of the earth as if they were dirty people.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
bert kreischer
These are the real salt of the earth.
You know, the people you want to stay away from.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Isn't it funny?
But this is how easy it is for us.
We can't understand that wars were fought over salt.
They literally fought for wars.
They fought wars.
bert kreischer
Over salt?
joe rogan
Yeah, for salt.
Salt was so important.
Salt was everything because salt allowed you to preserve food.
You could take fish and meat and all these different things.
You can cover them in salt and the salt prevents growth of bacteria.
So you can keep things even at room temperature far longer covered in salt than you can if they're exposed to the air.
bert kreischer
For real?
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah.
So the salt of the earth was like an incredibly valuable thing.
bert kreischer
Oh, wow.
I really used that wrong.
joe rogan
But isn't that weird, man?
bert kreischer
No, the people on the subway.
joe rogan
That wasn't that long ago, man.
People were having fucking wars over salt.
bert kreischer
This whole situation has forced you to think much more globally and...
Transidentially?
joe rogan
Transidentially?
You did it.
You just tried one out.
bert kreischer
But like down the...
Transidentially?
joe rogan
I don't even know if those two words go together ever.
bert kreischer
But like...
unidentified
It's like a double verb.
bert kreischer
You look at the...
My daughters were watching some movie about the Great Depression yesterday.
And I was like, oh, that seems kind of real.
joe rogan
Yeah, now it does.
Before it seemed like shit, that'll never happen to us.
Because it would have never happened to us economically.
As fucked up as the economy is, it dips and then it comes back.
Because the same amount of people need the same amount of shit, right?
So we gotta make stuff, and it just comes back.
Same amount of people willing to work, same amount of people healthy, same amount of physical resources required to make that shit.
Okay, let's figure it out how to make the shit again.
And then people make the shit and they sell the shit and things keep moving.
This is different.
This is more disturbing than anything we've ever seen because it's something that nobody suspected.
Out of all the consequences of a global pandemic, nobody ever thought, oh no, the whole world would have to stay home and no one would ever work.
No one thought that.
bert kreischer
Never in a million.
joe rogan
No one thought that.
bert kreischer
No one wrote a script about that.
joe rogan
But then some people have to work, right?
Like supermarket people and healthcare people and firemen and all these other people that have to work.
You're like, okay, so we're just kind of like kind of putting a bandaid on it, but it's all going to keep getting out, right?
It's going to keep getting out if they get it.
If they get it and they're in contact with people all the time, they're gonna be the bridge between people and the disease because not everybody can just stay home.
It's almost like we'd have to go door to door with people with fucking hazmat suits on, delivering food, staying in your house.
Everyone has to stay in their house for two weeks.
It's gonna get to a point where If it keeps coming back, do they keep instituting stiffer and stiffer measures?
It's just started, right?
And already, we can't have public gatherings of more than 10 people.
You can't go to a restaurant.
You can't do a stand-up show.
You can't go to the movies.
So all those things are done.
Gyms are closed.
All these things are closed.
This has never happened before.
And everybody just stays home.
Well, what if that doesn't work?
Would they keep ramping it up?
You know, what if, like, five months later, they realize, well, what we've done is instead of, like, letting this disease blow through everybody that's going to blow through quickly, now it's, like, slowly trickled into everybody that's going to affect.
Still affects the same amount of people.
Still infects the same amount of people.
I mean, they don't know whether or not that could possibly happen.
They're hoping that it wouldn't, but it could flare up again.
That's another piece of concern.
They're worried it could flare up again.
bert kreischer
That's one of the things that's crazy is the uncertainty.
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
That's the number one thing.
Because we all want to pretend that all this shit makes sense.
Even though we're temporary life forms.
bert kreischer
Oh, don't get me fucking started.
joe rogan
Even though.
Even though.
The star that powers the solar system itself has a finite lifespan, and things have changed so much.
Even though all those things exist, we still want to pretend that the world's going to be the way it is right now forever.
I think this is not good for us in that people are going to die and people are going to get sick, but it might be the survivors of it might experience a shift in the understanding of what it is to be alive.
What it is to be a person.
What this life is.
Life is not about fame or money or getting your point to be the one that gets accepted by everybody or arguing with the left or arguing with the right.
It's not that.
This life is people hanging out with each other.
And staying alive.
That's what it is.
bert kreischer
Have you interacted with people like we were out putting a fence up in our front yard?
Some people walk down the street.
It's kind of cool.
joe rogan
They're waving to each other, yeah.
People are saying hi.
People are appreciating each other a little bit more.
People are scared.
bert kreischer
Guy said to me the other day, he goes, hey man, how you doing?
I said, good.
And he goes, how you guys holding up?
I didn't even know the guy.
I said, good.
How about you guys?
Really cool.
I went to, I had like a fucking insane toothache in the middle of the night the other night, right?
I had to go to Rite Aid.
And it was open.
And I was so grateful.
You know, you take it for granted.
Let's go to Rite Aid and I start driving there and I go, they're probably not open.
Like, we're in shutdown.
I pull up and they're open.
Poor young lady sitting there with gloves on and a mask.
I buy some Ambasol and I go, I was like, I never said this.
I go, hey, thank you.
Like, thank you for being awake in the middle of a pandemic and working here so that just a toothache, like a fucking toothache.
joe rogan
People risking their health.
bert kreischer
I hope that we still feel this when things start to clear up.
And man, I'm optimistic.
I really do think we're gonna fucking flatten this curve and things are gonna go back to normal and everyone's gonna be safe.
But I hope that people are still that way.
I hope it weighs with young kids.
It weighs with me because I'm a little older and I feel like I'm...
I'm allowing myself to change in a grateful way of like seeing things and noticing things that maybe I didn't notice because I lived in Florida.
I lived in different places.
I hope it happens with kids.
I hope kids, my kids, put their phones down and want to interact and want to, you know, and be like, I had a month on my fucking, two months on my phone.
I'm out.
I want to go ride a bike or something, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's levels that this can drop.
This is one level.
One level is stay at home.
You know, another level that this could drop is if the grid goes down.
You know, there's things that we rely on that we don't even think twice about hitting that light switch and knowing that all that juice would be powering all these lights and that my refrigerator is going to stay on and that, you know, I'm going to keep being able to charge my Tesla every night.
You assume all that?
But there's no guarantee.
There's no guarantee that this fragile system is going to stay in place, particularly if something bad happens, like a solar flare.
Like one solar flare could wipe out our whole grid.
One big one can wipe out, you know, I mean, one asteroid impact.
One, you know, one crazy super volcano eruption.
Wipe out everything.
All of it.
And those things are real.
They happen all the time.
They're 100% real.
They're 100% real and we've documented the history of them in the planet Earth.
Fucking thousands of them.
We just don't live that long, man.
We don't live that long, and we forgot that all this shit happened, and we thought that because, you know, from my life from 67 to 2002, there was nothing like this.
Things like this don't happen, but they do.
bert kreischer
It's amazing how many people have called me about guns, because I do a bit about guns in this new special, and everyone's like, hey man, get me your gun guy.
joe rogan
This is a good time to move to Texas.
Get yourself a ranch.
bert kreischer
Thank God we trained with, what's his name?
joe rogan
Yeah, Terran Tactical.
bert kreischer
Terran Tactical, man.
I know how to use my gun.
I feel very confident with my gun.
joe rogan
Yeah, it certainly helps to get some training in.
That's going to be a big issue with people shooting people accidentally.
With people that don't have good firearm safety and they haven't been instructed correctly and they just go out and shoot guns.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know what the rules are today in terms of being able to buy a gun, but when I first bought a gun, there was no rules.
If you weren't a criminal, you could just get a gun.
bert kreischer
When was this?
joe rogan
When I first came here, 94. Oh, really?
Yeah.
bert kreischer
The rules now are it's a 12-day waiting period, and you have to take a test.
Test is pretty easy.
You take a test, you buy the gun, and then you have to wait 10 days.
joe rogan
You definitely had a waiting period, don't get me wrong, back then.
But what I'm saying is there was no instruction.
bert kreischer
Oh, no, there's no instruction.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I mean.
You didn't have to show your proficiency, or you didn't have to definitely show that you know where the safety is and remove a magazine.
You didn't have to show anything.
bert kreischer
He gave me some play bullets like they're red.
He was like, mess around with those, you know, get comfortable with your gun.
And they didn't work.
So I never figured out.
I just literally had a gun.
I didn't even load it.
I was like, I have a gun.
I don't know what to do with it.
And then Taron taught me everything.
And so that's the only reason I know how to do anything with my gun.
But I bought two guns.
Didn't know how to fucking...
I had a bullet.
It was a joke in my special, but it's true.
I put a bullet in the shotgun, and I thought I got the one that goes, but I didn't.
And I didn't know how to get out.
I was like, I called my buddy Cowhead.
I go, how do I get a bullet out of a gun?
He was like...
joe rogan
Does Cowhead live in Florida?
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's why you called him?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Dude, cowheads talk to the gills.
joe rogan
I would call Anthony Cumia first and foremost.
bert kreischer
Are you having another one?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Okay.
Yeah, I'll take one.
joe rogan
One more.
bert kreischer
One more.
joe rogan
We're not getting crazy.
We're having two drinks like gentlemen over a short period of time.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is it?
An hour and 36 minutes into the podcast.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
We halfway spaced it.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it's perfect.
I feel perfect right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, no worries.
I don't want to send you off the wagon.
bert kreischer
You know, man, I had a weird epiphany about, like, I want to be with my kids right now, you know, like hang with them.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
But that's what I'm hoping is good that's going to come out of this, right, for all of us.
bert kreischer
I hope so, man.
Cheers, Joe.
Thank you for doing this, man.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
unidentified
Thank you.
bert kreischer
I know how fucking swamped you are.
joe rogan
I love it.
I love you, man.
bert kreischer
That's a good whiskey.
Is that Buffalo Trace?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I just love the fact that this company started out during the pioneer days.
This is a company from the 1700s.
That's ridiculous.
bert kreischer
Jesus.
joe rogan
From the 1700s.
One company.
It's got to be one of the oldest companies in the country.
What's the oldest company?
I think that shit was around right when the United States was being formed.
bert kreischer
We got Levi's.
No, that Levi's was the 1840s, right?
joe rogan
I don't know.
They were canvas, right?
They used to make them out of canvas.
bert kreischer
They made them out of old tents?
joe rogan
Well, I think, yeah, I think the canvas that they had back then was probably made out of cannabis, too.
It was probably hemp.
That's why it was so durable.
That's what they used for clothes forever.
Apparently, I had a hemp shirt.
It was kind of whack.
I always felt like a hippie when I was wearing it.
bert kreischer
Sliding doors.
Sliding doors.
I like to see that transition in Joe where you smoke weed but don't love jujitsu and you get into like an oxygen bar.
joe rogan
I still have a hemp gi from Datsusara.
It's fucking great.
Yeah, hemp is a weird fabric.
It's really, really durable.
My hemp gi is never ripped.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
No, man.
The stitching might go eventually, but man, cotton gis, after a few years, they give out.
All these dudes trying to kill you.
They're yanking on you and shit.
They rip at the armpits.
They get bleached a bunch of times.
They get a little weaker.
They start ripping.
That hemp motherfucker.
That thing doesn't rip at all.
It's an alien planet.
unidentified
What's the name of that dude?
bert kreischer
You had the best fucking...
This is nine years ago.
You talked about a guy who did a kettlebell workout.
And I had it on my computer, and I haven't- Keith Webber?
Is that- it was like a fucking 20 minute- Extreme kettlebell cardio workout?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's incredible, right?
bert kreischer
It was like heart attack.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, yeah.
And you could do it with a 35 pound kettlebell.
You hold on to a 35 pound kettlebell, you're like, pshh, this thing ain't doing shit to me.
bert kreischer
Dude.
joe rogan
35 pounds, son.
I'll be like, I'll throw that around.
10 minutes in, I'm ready to die.
bert kreischer
I've been looking for that.
Weightlifting is my thing right now.
I want to put mass on because I don't want my bones to fall apart.
So all I do is run and spin glass.
That's it.
I want to put weight on.
I want to lift weights.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
I like the way you're saying it too.
You don't want your bones to fall apart.
People need to take that.
If there was a supplement that you could take that would actually increase your bone density, do you know how popular that supplement would be?
That supplement would be so popular.
Everybody would want to take something that actually increases your bone density and makes you less vulnerable to breaking your leg if you fall down.
bert kreischer
That's when shit goes sideways is when you're 65 and you break a hip.
You break your femur.
That's a game changer of broken bone at that age.
joe rogan
You want to maintain muscle mass.
And the best way to do that is by picking up heavy things.
During this isolation period though, one of the things you can do, especially because we're assuming this is only going to last like a month or two, we're hoping.
One of the things you can do is you could do a lot of fucking calisthenics.
You know, you can do significant numbers of push-ups and bodyweight squats, and if you have a chin-up bar, just a chin-up bar that you fit inside a doorway is perfect.
Just get one of those.
Get one off of Amazon.
Get the kind that you screw into the wall so it can't fall off on you.
You don't want to die.
bert kreischer
I've had that one.
joe rogan
Especially if you get silly and you try to do flips back and forth and you fall on your face.
There's no hospitals, okay?
Nothing's open, you asshole.
But if you just get a regular chin-up bar, just a chin-up bar, push-ups, sit-ups, doing a bunch of different bodyweight exercises like pistols and one-legged squats and different yoga routines, you could get shredded!
Shredded!
You know the Hershel Walker story?
That he actually got jacked from doing push-ups and sit-ups and stuff in between commercials of shows he would watch?
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
bert kreischer
Dude, that's my brain.
That's my brain.
I love nothing more than a punishment challenge, like a punitive.
When we were doing that on the road, I was like, because Marky Mark and Dr. Oz did their push-ups.
I made a joke video going, those are bullshit push-ups.
joe rogan
They were bullshit push-ups.
bert kreischer
Dude, I did fucking 60 of them.
joe rogan
But why did they do that?
Marky Mark is a stud.
bert kreischer
Marky Mark's push-ups were better than Dr. Oz's.
joe rogan
Do you think he gets mad if we call him Marky Mark?
bert kreischer
Definitely.
joe rogan
I got nothing but respect for him.
bert kreischer
I got nothing but respect for him.
joe rogan
I love that guy.
bert kreischer
He's a great actor.
He's on a campaign right now.
Like, he's nothing but in my newsfeed.
joe rogan
About what?
bert kreischer
About just, I don't know, like a PR campaign.
I don't know what he's doing.
joe rogan
Well, it's probably all about him, you know, promoting a movie or something like that.
bert kreischer
Spencer for Hires on Netflix.
joe rogan
He's a very fucking inspirational guy.
Look how fit he is.
bert kreischer
Boogie Nights is one of the best nights fucking ever.
One of the best movies ever.
joe rogan
He's got a lot of great movies.
He legitimately has a lot of great movies.
But as a human being, when you look at his dedication to fitness, he's not bullshitting.
He really is up at 5 o'clock in the morning working out like a beast every day.
bert kreischer
He's the real deal.
I think if you had pivoted and just done acting, I think you guys have probably similar personalities.
I've never met him.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
unidentified
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah, I never met him.
He was at a UFC once, but I was doing commentary, and sometimes when celebrities are there, I look over, try to catch their eye, say hi.
I got a hug from Jeremy Renner.
I was very excited.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
I never met him.
He came over and gave me a big hug.
I was like, dude!
bert kreischer
He seems like a really cool guy.
joe rogan
He's really cool.
He's really cool.
bert kreischer
But yeah, Mark Wahlberg's push-ups look legit.
Like kind of legit.
joe rogan
Look, he's a legit stud if you look at his workouts.
I mean, that guy goes after it.
You don't get built like that.
I don't care what you're taking.
You don't get built like that unless you work hard.
There's no magic pill.
That's all hard work.
Whenever someone says, oh yeah, they're on testosterone replacement, that's wonderful.
I'm sure that helps.
It definitely helps.
But you don't get built like that unless you're working out hard.
bert kreischer
Dr. Oz's push-ups are bullshit.
Now Mark's looks like tricep push-ups.
joe rogan
It's a little bullshit.
It's a little bullshit.
First of all, the right way to do a push-up, I'm not being a stickler, but legitimately for your own body, Dr. Oz is actually doing it better in that he has his elbows closer to his body.
Follow me here?
Like your hands in front of you and this.
And this is a good motion for your shoulders.
A lot of people think that this is not a good motion.
That this elbow out, it's a different thing and maybe it might be better to do it the way Mark Wahlberg is where you're not going up all the way.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I got them confused.
Dr. Oz is closer to us.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So Mark Wahlberg's doing it right.
bert kreischer
Mark Wahlberg's doing it right.
joe rogan
That's right.
bert kreischer
That's what I was about to say.
I'm like, what?
joe rogan
I got them confused.
bert kreischer
And he lapped him in his polo sweats.
joe rogan
Well, dude, Mark Wahlberg was doing them way better.
I'm sorry.
I said it the wrong way.
I really thought that was Mark Wahlberg in front of us for some reason because Dr. Oz said, why did I think that?
This is strong weed.
Obviously, the guy with the fucking hat and the gloves, why does Marky Mark have gloves on?
bert kreischer
See if you can pull up my push-ups on my Instagram.
joe rogan
Why does he have gloves on, though?
bert kreischer
I looked at these push-ups, I was like, Dr. Oz, those aren't real fucking push-ups.
joe rogan
They're not.
Neither one of them are doing real push-ups.
bert kreischer
But Marky Mark, you know that Marky Mark can bang the fuck out of push-ups.
joe rogan
They probably decided they're going for numbers, and he can't lose to Dr. Oz by doing legit push-ups while Dr. Oz is doing those bullshit push-ups.
It's like a strategy.
bert kreischer
Here's the problem with, like, I love Mark Wahlberg.
I love him on this podcast.
joe rogan
But?
bert kreischer
He's not on the table the way he would be without cameras.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
bert kreischer
He's too brand friendly.
Good.
joe rogan
He's doing great.
He's doing great, but I want to stay on a podcast.
Don't do it.
I'll talk to you off air.
Yeah, I'm sure.
bert kreischer
He's awesome, man.
He really is.
I was in Boston at Medford in the Chevalier.
It's like a smaller thing there.
joe rogan
What is it?
bert kreischer
It's a theater.
You can do the Wilbur, the Chevalier seats more.
joe rogan
You say it's in Medford?
bert kreischer
Medford?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I lived there for a little bit.
bert kreischer
Okay.
So I know you've talked about living in Medford.
And then I got obsessed.
And Bill fucking sucks about this because he just shuts you off.
He goes, dude, it's all the same.
It's like in Boston.
Look, look, I'm not Mark Wahlberg.
I'm not Southie.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
No, there's different spots in Boston.
bert kreischer
I was obsessed.
I want...
If someone can online do this, I want all the Boston comics, all of them, even like...
Dennis, like all of them.
I want to put on a map and I want you to tell me about that local area.
Because if you do that with Florida, it's very simple to wrap your head around.
Jim Brewer grew up, like lived in Brooksville at one point.
If you know Florida, you know Brooksville.
You know who moves to Brooksville, right?
unidentified
I don't, so tell me.
bert kreischer
A fucking 70-year-old World War II vet and his young wife.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
Oh, my kind of people.
bert kreischer
It is like borderline retiree.
joe rogan
That's what I want for a neighbor.
I want a crazy old dude with guns with a hot young wife.
bert kreischer
I think that was Brewer's dad.
joe rogan
I'm like, what's up, bro?
I like how you're doing it.
bert kreischer
I want to know all about Boston and all my friends.
I want to know about their neighborhoods, where they grew up, and how that defined them.
Because I hear Boston and I go, was Bill, you, Dane, Gary Goleman?
joe rogan
I never really lived in Boston, Boston.
I lived in Newton, which is a very nice community.
It's outside of Boston, which is Newton Upper Falls where I lived, which is like the blue collar part.
But even the blue collar part, I went back there just a few years ago.
It's idyllic.
It's beautiful.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, it's so nice.
I lived across the street from the Charles River.
Right across the street from this big-ass park, the Charles River was back there, and I could hang around and play in it when I was a kid.
Newton was a very, very almost, it was suburban, but there was also like elements of rural shit.
There was like rivers and forests and stuff that were really close by.
A lot of woods, a lot of trees and woods.
bert kreischer
So where were Matt Damon and Ben Affleck from?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't remember.
They were from more of an urban part.
I mean, like I said, I lived in Jamaica Plain first for like a year, which was like sketchy.
But Newton wasn't sketchy at all.
Newton was nice.
It was a good place to grow up.
It was pretty easy.
I mean, there's bullshit between kids, but there's always bullshit.
Everywhere you go, you're going to have bullshit between kids.
They're all trying to figure their way through life.
But ultimately, it was a pretty nice place to live.
And also, man, I think there's a fucking giant benefit to growing up where it gets cold in the winter.
I really do.
bert kreischer
I never had cold.
joe rogan
I think my kids are getting screwed.
I think you're getting screwed if you live in a place where it doesn't get cold.
bert kreischer
Why?
joe rogan
Because it builds character.
It also teaches you about weather and nature.
There's a reality of the consequences of going out when it's cold.
You could die out there.
There's a consequence of driving on the road where you can't see where you're going because the road doesn't exist anymore because there's so much snow.
That's real.
That can happen.
bert kreischer
Oh, it didn't happen to me until I was like 29, 30. It's the first time I ever drove in snow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
But there's something to be said for a...
It is cool to be a grown-up and see snow for the first time.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah, you probably appreciate it more than I did.
bert kreischer
Oh, I see snow.
I get so excited when it snows.
joe rogan
Well, I had it until I was seven, and then I had it again when I was 13. So all those years of living in California and Florida, obviously I never saw snow.
I saw snow one time when I was in San Francisco, I remember.
I was like, wow, this is interesting.
It's like one of my strongest memories from San Francisco.
bert kreischer
It snowed in Tampa.
joe rogan
Just a little bit of snow.
bert kreischer
It snowed in Tampa in like 1978, 1979. I remember it so fucking vividly.
joe rogan
It shuts shit down, but it also pays you back with character.
You develop character.
My favorite people, almost to a person, in terms of their attitude about things are all East Coast people.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
All my favorite people are these Chris people.
joe rogan
So many of them are cold weather people.
So many of them.
I mean, there's a few that I'm really close with that are LA people, born and raised here, and it's not like I like them less.
It's just that the numbers of people that are interesting that I'm friends with.
unidentified
I know what you're saying.
bert kreischer
There's less bumps on them.
When they grew up in LA, you're like, so you grew up in Santa Monica?
What was that like?
Did you go to the Third Street promenade a lot?
joe rogan
Yeah, what did you do?
What was a hard day?
It kind of rained.
A little bit?
bert kreischer
Oh, I remember Northridge.
Oh, I bet you do.
joe rogan
I was...
I was hanging out on the top of, I had a, like, when I lived in Newton, we lived on this really steep street.
And there was a part of, like, above my parents' bedroom where you could stand on the roof.
So you could go out to the back, you could climb up a ladder, you could stand on the roof.
And me and my friend Jay Jewett were, no, I'm sorry, it was John Jewett, Jay's brother.
Jay was my friend, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But John and I were on the roof, because John was dating my sister, and we were watching cars slide down this frozen street and slam it into curbs.
Every car that went down the street was fucked, because they didn't know it was all black guys.
The whole street was black guys.
And we sat on the roof, and there was not a goddamn thing we could do.
bert kreischer
Wait, how many black guys?
joe rogan
No, not black guys.
Black ice.
Jesus Christ, Bert.
Jesus Christ.
The whole street was black guys.
bert kreischer
I had a visual of like 200 black guys just watching white people careen.
And I'm like, holy, it got so much better.
It got so much better with black guys.
joe rogan
Winter weather, black ice.
I'm sorry.
We've had a lot of weed and pot and alcohol.
I probably slurred my words.
bert kreischer
It's so much better of a story watching a bunch of black guys like it's a slam dunk contest like oh shit!
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
No, it was cars just bouncing off the curb.
And so we called the cops and we told them, hey, there's all these cars, like two cars in a row have come down this hill and they're bouncing off the curbs.
And so the cops came down the hill and they fucking bounced off the curbs.
These fucking dipshits.
And we're watching them.
And me and John are watching this car bounce off these curbs.
I'm like, look at this fucking idiot.
Did you not listen?
We called you, man.
And you're like, I got a seat for myself.
Why don't you come up from the bottom, you fuck?
bert kreischer
You grab the phone, you're like, call Domino's.
joe rogan
They came the same way everybody else did, and the same thing happened.
Like, we know better.
We know better.
We're gonna come down.
bert kreischer
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Show you homos how to drive.
This bounced off the curves.
Oh my god.
But I really believe that growing up like that is good for you.
I think spending my high school years in Massachusetts was really important.
It's really important to shovel snow.
Like, that was one of the ways we made money.
Like, you get pumped when it snowed out because you could charge people.
So you would go to this lady's house, and you know, you knew she couldn't shovel this fucking long-ass driveway, and you'd make a negotiation.
Like, when I'm looking at it, I'm trying to figure out, like, I'm trying to do my math.
Math's always terrible.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
bert kreischer
So you're a kid and you're going like, that's a valuable trait.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm like 14. I'm trying to figure out how long it's going to take to dig up two feet of snow from 40 feet of driveway.
I'm like, hmm.
You're never right.
bert kreischer
I would love to hear my daughter's price point on that.
joe rogan
Some people were great.
Some people were really generous.
They'd even give you a tip.
They'd pay you maybe $100 to do a whole long-ass driveway, but bro, it would take you all day.
When someone has one of these motherfuckers, That goes up to their house and it's like two feet of snow.
You don't even realize how much work that is.
Dude, I would come home wrecked.
Just wrecked.
bert kreischer
Dude, we were at a yurt at 7,000 feet in fucking Idaho, right?
And I'm low on oxygen.
We've been riding snowmobiles, drinking beers all the way up to this yurt.
And I get there and the whole fucking deck is covered and there's a fire pit.
I'm so excited as a Florida kid.
I go, I'm going to shovel the deck.
And everyone's like, hey man, you're going to have a fucking heart attack.
And I go, no, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
I've been so excited about shoveling snow my whole life, right?
I've never done it.
It sucks dick.
joe rogan
It sucks the most.
bert kreischer
Within, I gave it to my buddy John Sayles.
I go, you got to finish, man.
I can't do this shit.
I was like, I'm a Florida kid, man.
I'm going to put on my flip-flops.
joe rogan
Dude, you know how many old ladies hurt themselves trying to shovel their way out of their house every year in cold climates when they don't have someone like a support system, like a son or someone to come visit them and help them?
A lot of guys that I know that are East Coast guys that live in the neighborhood of their family or anywhere near their family, like it's almost like understood.
When it snows out, you go over to your mother-in-law's house and you dig her out because she's stuck.
That's real shit, man.
I think that it's dangerous and it's definitely an added fucker of life where you come to California and you're like, thank God there's no snow!
And that's how I was when I first moved here.
I'm like, thank God there's no snow.
But part of me is like, man, I learned from that snow.
I learned a lot of shit, dude.
That taught me a lot about perseverance.
Because I used to deliver newspapers.
So I drove every day.
I drove every fucking day.
Every day.
365 days a year, I was driving.
For years.
Because it was the best way to not have a job while you have a job.
The job was, I just had to go somewhere and get the newspapers and then follow the route and throw them out the window.
But while I'm doing that, no one's looking over my shoulder.
No one's telling me what to do.
And it's not the worst pay in the world.
It was pretty good pay.
bert kreischer
Thrifty Nickel.
I used to deliver to the Thrifty Nickel in Tallahassee.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
bert kreischer
Oh, Sean Simmons, he got me the job.
He's like, hey man, it pays good.
It was like 400 bucks.
All you had to do was one Thursday.
But you woke up at the crack of dawn.
They filled my jet, a front seat, back seat, and trunk with Thrifty Nickels.
And I had to run around.
joe rogan
What was a Thrifty Nickel?
bert kreischer
It was like a savings magazine, like a savings newspaper.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
bert kreischer
And the movie Singles had just come out.
And so I was listening to the soundtrack of Singles.
joe rogan
What's that movie?
bert kreischer
It was Matt Damon.
No, no, Matt.
Matt.
Who's the good-looking Matt that we grew up with that was in Beautiful Girls?
Matt.
joe rogan
Oh, that guy.
bert kreischer
Matt Dillon.
joe rogan
Matt Dillon.
I can't.
I see him.
I saw his face.
bert kreischer
Matt Dillon.
It was Matt Dillon.
joe rogan
Stay Gold Ponyboy.
bert kreischer
Do you know how many times I've said that in my head in an airport bar?
Stay Gold Ponyboy.
One more.
Dude.
And so it was a Cameron Crowe movie.
unidentified
Singles.
joe rogan
There it is.
bert kreischer
Man, that whole soundtrack.
joe rogan
Keira Sedgwick.
bert kreischer
Eddie Vedder.
joe rogan
Matt Dillon.
bert kreischer
That was such...
And I listened to that whole...
joe rogan
He's preposterously handsome.
bert kreischer
Dude, I saw him in person.
He's striking.
We bumped into each other and he did the Matt Dillon hello.
joe rogan
A guy like that almost has a curse.
Too handsome.
bert kreischer
We were trying to buy Coke at the Formosa Cafe.
unidentified
Shh!
bert kreischer
It's passed.
I think we're good.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
Maybe he doesn't want people to know.
bert kreischer
No, not me and him.
No, not me and him.
Me and my friends.
Me and my friends, not me and Matt.
By the way, if we had, I would have fucking ratted him out.
He was with the little guy from Beautiful Girls who goes, she goes, hey guys, Sambuca?
And he goes, well Meg, too early or too late?
You know the little guy from those movies?
He was so good.
Beautiful Girls, one of the greatest fucking movies ever.
joe rogan
Is that him with Chris Cornell?
bert kreischer
Yeah, that's him with Chris Cornell.
joe rogan
Who's on his right?
bert kreischer
I think that's...
She was famous.
She's someone's daughter or something.
Bridget Fonda?
joe rogan
Chris Cornell was one of the biggest bummer suicides.
bert kreischer
Was that from...
It was from Xanax, right?
joe rogan
I don't know what it was from.
I don't know what it was from.
I mean, I think there's a bunch of different...
bert kreischer
Sonny Garcia was the one that fucked me up.
Big surfer from Hawaii.
joe rogan
I didn't know about that one.
bert kreischer
Oh dude, that bummed me out so bad.
Despite not knowing how to surf at all, I'm a huge surfing fan.
And Sonny Garcia was like the first dude that, first dude I remember seeing him and Christian Fletcher had tattoos.
When you were like, bro they got tattoos, what did their parents say?
Forever, forever.
joe rogan
Keep it for life.
bert kreischer
God.
But yeah, he committed suicide in like Portland or something.
joe rogan
I think I remember reading that now.
I didn't know about him, but I don't think I remember reading it now.
Bourdain was the hardest one for me.
bert kreischer
I wish I'd met him.
joe rogan
That was one of the ones where I'm like, you know, you always think, like, that guy was so smart, I wish I could have talked to him.
We're so smart.
You know?
Sometimes people can get in a bad way.
They can get in a bad way.
But you can pull out of that bad way.
Sometimes you need to know.
You need to know that there's a...
There's a light at the end.
I don't know what it was.
I don't know if it was chemical or emotional.
I don't know what it was, but he had so much to offer.
His perspective was so unique.
He was such an interesting guy.
You could feel the chaos in him.
bert kreischer
He was a fun guy to discover, you know, like when you first found him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Because I think a lot of people found him on their own, where they were like, dude, this fucking show, No Reservations, is awesome.
joe rogan
Dude, I would have loved to see you and him get drunk together.
Because he made me tap out.
Dude, we went camping.
We went pheasant hunting in Montana, and then we went camping.
And Bourdain goes hard in the paint, son.
He went hard in the paint.
And I couldn't find any weed.
I thought I had weed, but I had a vape.
I had a vape pen.
So we bust out the vape pen.
And they're passing around the whiskey.
I mean, we were...
Barbecued.
And he keeps going.
Really?
He kept going.
He would just keep going.
He wanted to go to the Netherlands.
He wanted to pass into the next dimension.
He wanted to escape.
He would go hard.
I would have loved to have partied with him.
He was so interesting.
I just really enjoyed his company.
I never knew anyone like him.
He's a very, very different guy.
And I always was happy that he liked me.
Because I was always like, that a guy like that could work.
I come off the wrong way sometimes to people.
bert kreischer
You think you do?
joe rogan
Yeah, well you do.
bert kreischer
I'm fucking shirtless.
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I come off wholeheartedly the wrong way with intention.
People go, that guy is a fucking idiot.
I was telling Jim Norton this this morning.
When Showtime did my special machine, Helen, I keep saying Helen, that's her name.
She works at Showtime.
She made a very wise tactical decision.
She said, I think you shirtless is a bad idea.
I said, really?
And she goes, I just think that a lot of people are going to change the channel.
And man, was she right.
I had the lowest rated special out of all of them for the whole year.
It was the lowest rated special.
When that story went viral, it was because my shirt was off that people recognized it.
And I think, I was saying this, I think it's the thing where, like, when big government puts an entity in front of you, like when Showtime puts that in front of you and you have the remote, you go, ah, fuck that guy.
Like, thumbs down.
But when you discovered on your own online and you go, shirtless guy, what's that?
The onus is on you, so you're more forgiving.
And you'll listen.
And I think that's the cool thing about podcasts and what we do is that Like, I remember discovering your podcast.
Isla, you and Tommy, this must be episode three.
You and Tommy were doing a podcast.
Isla was a baby.
She saw Tommy Bunz on the screen and clicked it.
It was on Twitter.
Maybe MySpace, but clicked it.
And it was snowflakes.
And I came in and Isla was watching you and Tom on my laptop.
And I sat with Isla in my lap and I started watching it.
And it must have been like episode three, four, maybe even before you started calling it Joe Rogan Experience.
I was fucking hooked.
And I was a ride-or-die motherfucker, like, because I found it.
But if you put podcasts, like, when these guys say, and I'm not going to shit on them, but people sign big deals with podcasts, and then podcast company goes, new podcast!
It's like, I gotta find it.
When you find it yourself, you fucking love it, man.
And I found Bourdain.
Sitting in my bed, no reservations came on.
I didn't know what it was at all.
Didn't know anything about travel channel other than man versus food.
And I fucking...
He did this monologue that I was like, dude, that's what every guy hosting television wants to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, his monologues are brilliant.
bert kreischer
Brilliant.
joe rogan
He was a great writer.
bert kreischer
He wrote them.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a great writer as well.
He's just super unique.
When he got into jiu-jitsu, I was so happy.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was so happy.
bert kreischer
That was a fucking shift.
joe rogan
Also, I was like, I'm going to be closer friends with him now.
Because he's into jiu-jitsu.
bert kreischer
Yeah, you're like his knock-on.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, in a way.
bert kreischer
What's his name?
joe rogan
John Dudley.
bert kreischer
Yeah, John Dudley is like, he gets a call from you and he's like, ah, Rogan's calling, I'll take it.
What do you need to know about Bo's setup, brother?
joe rogan
With him it was like such an interesting shift because when I'd known him before he was smoking cigarettes and then I met him, no actually I met him after he had stopped smoking cigarettes.
I knew of him when he was smoking when he was on his television show and then he had his daughter and when he had his daughter he stopped smoking.
But I remember reading that he decided to take statins Oh my god.
But he wasn't exercising at the time, and he was drinking a lot.
But it was so important for him, I mean, for what he does and what he loves, just to be able to eat well, just eat the most delicious artistic creations of master culinary assassins.
And so that's what he decided to do.
And then when he got into jiu-jitsu, he didn't need the high blood pressure medication anymore.
Or the high cholesterol medication anymore.
He didn't need it anymore.
His whole body transformed.
bert kreischer
He seemed so much more, when he was on CNN, he seemed so much more grounded and healthy.
joe rogan
Yeah, but in some ways.
But to me, in some ways, not.
In some ways, I was watching him age very rapidly, physically, like how he looked.
I love this guy to death.
Towards the end, I would see images of him and I was like, wow, he looks like he's struggling.
His body is aging a lot and it could be just because he's traveling so much and he's drinking so much.
It could be many, many, many, many different things.
bert kreischer
Traveling with drinking is very different than living at home drinking.
unidentified
It's rough.
joe rogan
It's all rough.
It's all rough on the body.
And then probably all the demons he was battling that he succumbed to in the end anyway.
There's something about that.
But there was something about that fucking look that he had when he was at that place that was like you just wanted to talk to him because he knew he had some shit to say.
bert kreischer
God, man, what a fucking brilliant mind, too.
My wife was, before I started watching him, my wife read Kitchen Confidentials.
Was that his?
And my wife's like, this guy's fucking amazing, Bert.
And I was in bed with Isla, and it came on TV. Yeah, he was awesome.
You've met some fucking fascinating people.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was one of the first to ever do the podcast, too.
One of the first real guests, famous people that came in.
bert kreischer
This is like a throwback.
Do you remember when Ari was the most fascinating person?
Or Brian Redman?
I talk about the podcast back in the day when you had that landline that would ring for no reason at all.
joe rogan
Yeah, I kept having to pull it out of the wall.
bert kreischer
Who was the first guest you got on the podcast where you're like, shut the fuck up?
joe rogan
Graham Hancock.
bert kreischer
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
We went and grabbed Graham Hancock, and I believe it was Graham and Duncan and I. And we sat down.
This was way, way, way, way, way early on.
And I had picked up one of Graham's books.
I believe it's, I always say Footprints of the Gods, but it's really Fingerprints of the Gods, I'm pretty sure.
And the book was about...
Ancient civilizations, and it was all about how there's a massive amount of evidence that points to the possibility that Earth experienced some sort of a cataclysmic disaster somewhere in the neighborhood of 12,000 years ago.
And that all the stuff that we see in these older civilizations, it's really complex and confusing.
The reason why it happened and there's just like this down period and this up period again afterwards is because a giant percentage of the population was wiped out by an asteroid that they can prove hit.
And he's been proven more and more and more correct as time went on.
And for me, just as a fan of that subject, because just what we're experiencing now with this pandemic and just with life in general, we love to think that things are static and nothing's static.
And there's nothing sadder than someone who doesn't recognize that they're not static anymore, right?
There's nothing sadder than a woman who's in her 80s who still puts on too much makeup.
Or, you know, or a guy that's that age is still doing push-ups on the front lawn and flexing for the neighbors.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
bert kreischer
Good morning, Miss Mary.
joe rogan
There's nothing sad about people that don't recognize that things aren't static.
And he's like the guy who sounded the wake-up call in my consciousness.
bert kreischer
Look at that.
joe rogan
What year was that, man?
jamie vernon
September 25th, 2011. Wow.
bert kreischer
So wait, how long has this podcast been going on?
joe rogan
10 years now.
Yeah, it started in 2010. Duncan has not changed one fucking bit.
2009, and it went to December of, yeah.
bert kreischer
Duncan looks exactly the fucking same.
joe rogan
He's the same, he's the same.
But we had these, look, there's a fleshlight over my left shoulder.
bert kreischer
I was just telling Whitney about those days.
joe rogan
But that was, listen, man, you could only have done that podcast the way we did it if you did it that way.
But meaning that, like, no one has to be watching.
No one cared.
It didn't mean anything.
jamie vernon
Dude.
joe rogan
And we were blasted out of our minds.
For the first, like, 80 or 90 episodes, maybe even more, I was so high during every episode.
bert kreischer
Oh.
joe rogan
Remember when we do the volcano shots?
bert kreischer
I remember that big fucking volcano, and it would sit right next to you and it would just keep smoking the entire time.
So if you had to sit next to Red Band on the right, it would just burn the whole time.
joe rogan
Sometimes we'd be in the middle of the conversation and I'd be like, have we started the podcast?
bert kreischer
Dude, I remember...
I remember that time so vividly.
It was like a shift in the fucking universes of like, I remember going to your house, I always say this is one of my favorite stories, the way I met you is the last way you should meet Joe.
I went up to your house, you were at the door already, and you were like, hey man, I go, hey man, big fan, I gotta see the deprivation tank, your dog, and the pool table, then we need to get high, and then I'm ready to do this.
And you were like, caught off guard, you're like, okay.
You took me back, I met Johnny Cash, you took me down to the deprivation tank, We played around a pool, went out to that back where the swing set and the chickens ended up being.
Smoked a joint.
Red Band showed up.
It changed my fucking life.
You said, hey man, you gotta tell that machine story every time you get on stage.
If you hadn't done that, I don't know what the fuck I'd be doing.
You know that's what happened that first night, right?
So I tell the machine story to your podcast.
And you go, it's one of the best stories.
It's one of the best stories ever told.
You go, ladies and gentlemen.
You go, you tell it on stage?
I go, no.
You go, you gotta start telling that on stage.
Hey everybody, and you talk to the, you go, he is from now on known as the machine.
You yell the machine at every one of his shows until he tell, make him tell it on stage.
So I go to Columbus the next week.
I go do my first show Thursday.
Maybe 120 people not sold out.
And they start chanting the machine.
And I go, hey guys, it's not a stage story.
This dude in the front row, death squad, ride or die.
Death squad, covered head to toe, goes, hey Bert, we understand it's not going to be funny, but you've got to tell it if you're going to want it to be good.
So go ahead, man.
Come on, guys.
Right, right, right.
And everyone started cheering.
You can do it, Bert.
You can do it.
I told it.
I told it.
And at the bar, they're like, you know, we had to fake laugh a couple times.
But I think it's a good story.
Dude, cut from that to me and Tom doing our weight loss challenge, right?
The first time we did our weight loss challenge, and that machine story went viral that week.
That week, that machine story went viral.
joe rogan
The week you guys began the challenge or finished the challenge?
bert kreischer
The weigh-ins.
When he shaved my beard, the machine story went viral that fucking week.
I say they go...
You know, I always say I'm the luckiest dude in the world.
I think I work hard, but I'm very, very, very lucky.
I'm more lucky than anyone in the world, right?
Just, I stand by luck.
But man, the luckiest I've ever been is making friends with a group.
Like, I remember you telling me, I remember you coming out and saying, I didn't want to make friends.
And you came out with the shit.
We were at the Ice House.
We were doing Death Squad Chronicles.
Came out with a shot and a beer.
You say, hey, you're a good guy.
I go, oh, yeah, thanks.
You're like, you know, we're all trying to be your friend, man.
And I was like, no, I get it.
I get it.
And you're like, no, you just gotta let us.
And I was like, no, I understand.
You're like, no, no, no, that means when we call you, call us back.
And I went, yeah.
And you're like, no, I don't think you understand what you're saying.
You go, me, Joey, Ari, Tommy, we're all trying to be your friend, Bert.
joe rogan
Well, we have to tell you, I don't want to throw anybody under the bus, so as I explain this, I'm going to be very careful.
bert kreischer
Okay.
joe rogan
The reason why we're saying that, because we know you had been friends with a tyrant before.
You were fucking...
You were shell-shocked.
We're like, Bert, we're your real friends.
We like you.
We're not trying to tell you what to do or fucking scream at you or belittle you.
We actually like you.
We're gonna bust your balls, but we bust...
Everyone busts everyone's balls.
That's half the fun.
I felt like you were like a beaten kid.
Jesus Christ, we gotta lighten this Kreischer guy up.
bert kreischer
I remember you guys call one Saturday.
You go, what are you doing?
I go, I'm on the treadmill.
And you go, nah, come over to the ice house.
And I said, oh, I'm good.
And I hung up, right?
And then Tommy called me back.
And Tommy goes, hey, man, you gotta let us try to be your friend.
Fucking come to the ice house.
Just come to the fucking ice house.
And I went, and then I heard you on the, get over here.
And so I fucking went over to the ice house.
joe rogan
We had a fucking blast, dude.
bert kreischer
Had a fucking blast.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I knew it.
But, you know, that's how it is in this fucking weird business.
Like, half the fun is finding a group of people that you can enjoy it with.
It's half the fun.
bert kreischer
It's all the fun.
In my opinion, you used to tell me about how traveling with Joey and Tom and Ari and how much fun it was.
joe rogan
It changes the game.
bert kreischer
Dude, I travel with a group of guys now, and it's so much fun to get.
Like, we've been doing push-up challenges every night.
You get wasted and go, fuck it.
Let's go.
Tens of tens.
joe rogan
Josh, Tommy's guy that he has open for him.
unidentified
Josh Potter.
joe rogan
Josh Potter is fucking hilarious.
He's really funny, man.
bert kreischer
Hilarious.
joe rogan
He opened for Tommy.
I happened to be in Vegas, maybe like the last get out of the year.
I was in Vegas for the UFC and just coincidentally Tommy was performing at the Mirage.
So I came to hang out with him.
We all went out.
We had steaks.
We fucking had a great time on Friday night.
And then we went to see his show.
And then we went to see his show.
That was the first time I ever saw Josh.
He murdered, man.
bert kreischer
He's awesome, dude.
joe rogan
He's really funny.
bert kreischer
From Buffalo.
Is he?
Yeah, you'd run into him every now and then.
And man, Tom's a legit...
I gotta say, Tom's special is probably streaming right now if you're watching this.
It's streaming on Netflix.
It's called Ball Hog.
He'll be on the podcast, I'm sure, this week.
joe rogan
He's tomorrow.
bert kreischer
He's tomorrow?
joe rogan
Tommy's on tomorrow.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
And what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
We got a podcast, Two Bears, One Cave.
joe rogan
Two Bears, One Cave.
Say it so people can understand it.
bert kreischer
Two Bears, One Cave.
joe rogan
You don't have to shove it in there.
bert kreischer
It's an old host habit.
joe rogan
What is it about saying things fast?
Like, okay, okay, okay.
Two Bears, One Cave.
bert kreischer
Dude, I get my brain, I'll get verbiage in my head, like, Body Shots World's War!
Do you know who Mac Lethal is?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, you ever listen to him rap?
Double, triple, fast rap?
bert kreischer
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
His rapping confuses the fuck out of me.
Like, I don't even understand how someone's lips can move that fast.
unidentified
How about Eminem?
bert kreischer
Did you hear Eminem when he did that Eminem challenge?
You saw it, Jamie, I'm sure.
Because me and you were both children.
joe rogan
But Mac Lethal's probably the fastest.
bert kreischer
I don't know, this M&M Challenge, I wish you could play it.
joe rogan
Well, I heard some M&M shit recently that was really fast, too.
bert kreischer
Really fucking fast.
joe rogan
Really fast, too.
But I kind of think Mac Lethal's on another level.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, if I had to put the two of them in a fast rap-off...
I got my money on...
I got my money on that lethal fella.
bert kreischer
Ladies and gentlemen!
joe rogan
A fast rap off!
jamie vernon
There's a section of the song where he says 99 words in 16 seconds.
joe rogan
Eminem does?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
99 words in 16 seconds?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
bert kreischer
When you were younger, did you ever think there was a celebrity that would love your comedy?
Like when you were younger and you were like...
joe rogan
No, man.
One of the weirdest things ever was looking in the audience and seeing famous people.
It took forever to get used to that.
bert kreischer
Like who?
joe rogan
Gene Simmons.
bert kreischer
Gene Simmons.
joe rogan
Fuck that guy.
unidentified
Gene Simmons.
I know.
joe rogan
No, you hate that guy.
unidentified
He blocked me on Twitter.
joe rogan
Did he really?
bert kreischer
Yeah, fuck you, Simmons.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
I really wish I could be the consigliere that brought you two together at this time.
bert kreischer
He was a big comedy fan, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
He used to go to a lot of comedy shows.
joe rogan
His son, I think, liked my comedy.
bert kreischer
His son's cool as fuck.
joe rogan
And his son brought his whole family on New Year's Eve at the Improv one weekend.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One year, rather.
Yeah, it was weird.
It was weird.
I was like, Jesus Christ, Gene Simmons in the fucking audience.
When I was a kid, like, I loved Kiss.
They were awesome when I was a kid.
Goddamn, man.
It was like my favorite band.
It was a weird band.
unidentified
Oh, bro.
joe rogan
Because people would mock you if you loved them.
bert kreischer
I was obsessed.
Do you remember the movie they did?
Where they took over a fucking theme park?
joe rogan
Yes.
Phantom of the Park.
bert kreischer
Phantom of the Park.
joe rogan
Yes, I remember that.
Bro, the power went out in the middle of me watching it and I cried.
bert kreischer
Wait, how old were you?
Because I remember how old I was!
joe rogan
I don't know, I was probably like 11 or something like that.
bert kreischer
I was at Pat Fagan's house.
I must have been seven.
And I was like, oh my god, this is the greatest movie ever.
My parents came and they were like, time to go home.
I go, we're not done!
We're not done!
joe rogan
I didn't really cry, but I might as well.
I was like, goddammit, this fucking power's off!
bert kreischer
My dad would wake me up, and he'd wait for the 7-Eleven commercials where they were on Slurpees, and he'd crank it up.
unidentified
He'd go, shout it, shout it, shout it out loud.
bert kreischer
And I'd hop up, I'm ready to go to school, first grade.
I'm ready to go to school, dad.
joe rogan
Every kid that was into KISS identified with a particular member.
Like, my friend Javier was really into Peter Criss.
bert kreischer
Oh my god, I was hardcore into Peter Criss.
I met Peter Criss.
joe rogan
There were certain dudes that thought they were Paul Stanley, certain dudes that, like, I was a Gene Simmons fan.
bert kreischer
I was in between Peter Criss and Ace Frehley.
I bought Ace Frehley's solo album in high school.
joe rogan
I didn't ever think that I would be spiritual enough to be tuned into Ace Frehley, because Ace Frehley was the spaceman, right?
He was the dude who was mellow with the guitar, with the crazy guitar.
He had a really good solo album.
Remember when they did the solo albums with their faces on it?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Back in the New York groove.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love that song.
bert kreischer
Dude, they had some amazing...
The branding of KISS. Meaning, do you remember them in the suits?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
The picture of them in the suits?
joe rogan
Yeah, Dressed to Kill.
bert kreischer
Yeah, that was a fucking...
joe rogan
Wasn't it Dressed to Kill?
bert kreischer
I hate that I hate Gene Simmons.
Like, I want to love him so bad.
joe rogan
It's so sad.
I don't remember the story, but I saw it one day.
Someone sent it to me.
One of my friends said to me, us talking about you hating Gene Simmons.
I'm like, God, I kind of forgot about this.
bert kreischer
I had a bad interaction with him.
joe rogan
There it is.
bert kreischer
That's such a badass and clogs.
He's wearing clogs.
joe rogan
I know.
There were different kinds of people back then.
bert kreischer
God.
joe rogan
I feel like there's no way we would ever be able to understand what life was like Being a bunch of dudes who were world famous, wearing makeup, mocked, openly mocked by so many members of the music community, whether it's radio stations.
They thought they were a joke, and you were a fool if you liked their music.
And then they take their makeup off for a little bit.
Remember that?
Kiss unmasked.
bert kreischer
I remember that.
joe rogan
And then nobody was into it.
And they're like, fuck it, we're going back!
bert kreischer
We're putting it back on!
I was at Pat Fagan's house and he's like, you want to see what Gene Simmons looks like?
I was like, hard pass.
joe rogan
But they wore everybody out.
They wore everybody out.
They stayed in the game.
I mean, they replaced two members, Ace Freely and Peter Criss.
They kind of rotated in and out.
And eventually they replaced him with new people that played the same characters.
So there's a new dude who's the cat dude and a new dude who's the space dude.
And for a while they tried to do it differently.
They added a fox.
One guy was a fox.
And people were like, get the fuck out of here.
You don't remember that?
I don't remember that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When Peter Criss was gone, they put in some new dude instead of a cat.
He was like a fox.
It was a real problem.
And the hardcore KISS fans were like, this is fucking bullshit.
You know who's a hardcore KISS fan?
bert kreischer
Who?
joe rogan
Kevin James.
bert kreischer
No, that makes sense.
joe rogan
Me and Kevin James, two nights in a row, went to see KISS in LA, I think it was at the Forum, during their comeback tour.
Because we thought they were never going to come back again.
So this is me and Kevin James, and man, I don't know what year that was, but it was in the 90s.
Who was that guy?
bert kreischer
That's the fox.
joe rogan
Eric Carr.
Yeah, he's a fox.
bert kreischer
Eric Carr, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, get the fuck out of here, bro.
Nice guy, great musician.
Don't get me wrong, but no!
You can't add new characters.
bert kreischer
Kevin James and I could not be more different.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a great guy.
bert kreischer
He's a great guy.
Me and Gary.
joe rogan
You would love him.
bert kreischer
I know Kevin.
joe rogan
But I mean, if you really knew him like I knew him, I'm tight with him.
You know, I hooked him up with my manager.
We have the same manager we have from the very beginning.
I've known Kevin for fuck.
29 years, maybe?
bert kreischer
Gary and I were tight.
Gary Valentine and I. I was tight with Gary, too.
I love Gary Valentine.
He's a great guy.
Gary Valentine, one of my favorite stories ever.
One time we're at the improv, and he goes, Berski, shot!
And I go, yeah, Gary!
And he grabs two shots, and he hands me one, and then he grabs his, and he takes his back when the improv had candles, and he does a shot of a candle, whacks all over his lips, and he goes, I took the wrong one!
unidentified
Okay!
bert kreischer
Gary Valentine is the fucking funniest human being, man.
joe rogan
He drank a shot of candle.
bert kreischer
He just splashed on his lip, and he goes, I drank the wrong one!
joe rogan
I can't be good.
bert kreischer
Yeah, the, uh...
Isn't it interesting?
What are their...
Their real name is not their...
joe rogan
Don't be giving up their real name, you fuck.
bert kreischer
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, Bert Kreischer.
Causing trouble.
Yeah, they both got different names, but they're brothers and sisters.
bert kreischer
Whatever.
joe rogan
Brothers.
Kevin's an interesting cat.
bert kreischer
He really is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very interesting guy.
bert kreischer
Very quiet.
We sat one time at his house, me and Gary, and I think a couple other guys.
I was getting wasted, and he was just sitting there looking at me.
And he was like, what are you partying for?
I go, I'm just enjoying it.
And he goes, what?
And I go, all your success.
Yeah.
He's like, huh?
I said, Kevin, I would be doing it so different if I was you.
I remember he drove, I want to say, a Jeep Cherokee on his third season of King of Queens.
He was very conservative.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he's a guy who plays the cards close to his chest, you know?
bert kreischer
Such a sweet dude.
He introduced me to Guacamole.
joe rogan
He's the only reason why I've ever been in any movies.
Well, I did some terrible movies that nobody saw before, but the movies that I did once I didn't need to do anything anymore in terms of acting was his movies.
I did two of his movies.
I did Zookeeper and I did...
Here comes the boom.
And the only reason why I did him is because I love Kevin.
bert kreischer
He's such a great dude.
joe rogan
The zookeeper was fun, too.
It was so ridiculous.
I had to learn how to dance.
It took months and months of my time.
It was really interesting.
bert kreischer
I saw that dance.
You can actually dance.
joe rogan
It was so ridiculous, man.
Sebastian Maniscalco can dance.
In all fairness, some of what you see is not actually me.
Some of it is me, but there was this dude who was a professional dancer who was like a stand-in, who was amazing.
He was amazing.
So the stuff where it's clearly me, I definitely did a lot of the stuff.
All the stuff with me and Leslie Bibb, where I had a holder and all that stuff, that was me, 100%.
But this dude was so much better than me.
Where you couldn't tell, they stuck him in.
He was built like me and it was perfect.
Nobody could tell.
Because he was really good.
When you see how hard it is to actually dance, you go, my god.
When you see a real professional, it's one of the most dismissed things with people.
We dismiss it.
Like, oh, what a frivolous pursuit.
Not even how to dance.
But if you can really dance, it's so impressive when someone has full control of their body.
bert kreischer
That's what Tom said to me because I'm a better dancer than him.
Dude, I did.
Fuck Tom.
Let me tell you something.
That cocksucker.
My daughters saw Tom's video and they looked at it and they're like, wait, Tom can dance.
I go, you didn't say that when you saw my video.
And they go, well, you paid someone to teach you how to dance.
I go, so did fucking he.
You think he did that on his own?
They go, it looks like it.
joe rogan
It looks like he figured it out on his own.
bert kreischer
I tried to do that Irish dance for the release of the special.
joe rogan
But you gotta appreciate the fact that Tom did it in a Steven Seagal outfit with a carrot.
bert kreischer
Don't ever, like...
I swear to God, if you watch the video of me watching that for the first time, it's a love letter.
It's a man reading a love letter from his boyfriend.
When Tom said...
I said, he goes, how do you feel?
I said, like privately, I go, it made me feel very honored that you did that.
And he goes, it's because I love you.
Like, when he put that out, it meant so much to me because I thought I put out my dance video and everyone made fun of it and we watched it and we giggled.
But the fact that it inspired Tom to drop $80,000, whatever he spent.
$80,000, $100,000, $110,000.
The fact that he made a reply video made me so fucking excited.
joe rogan
Well, he went so deep.
bert kreischer
He went...
So fucking...
He murdered you.
unidentified
With a knife.
bert kreischer
Do you realize what he did?
He made me...
He told me...
I sat and did facial recognition for him.
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about it.
He fucked you hard, bro.
bert kreischer
Bro.
You have no idea.
The times I stay up in bed going, this is how I'm getting Tommy.
I swear to God.
unidentified
When the guy had the machine shirt on?
bert kreischer
We sell those now and they're fucking going crazy.
They're all at my show.
It's just machine.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
It's fun to watch our fans go back and forth with us and bust balls with us because that's all we do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I know it is.
joe rogan
It is fun.
bert kreischer
It's cool that our specials are airing back-to-back.
Look, I want his special to be number one trending on Netflix, without a doubt.
joe rogan
But don't worry about all that.
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
joe rogan
You know it's great and you want people to watch it.
bert kreischer
I know that mine will be number two if it's number one.
joe rogan
Don't worry about number one and number two.
Let all that shit go.
So sad.
bert kreischer
God.
joe rogan
It looks like you ate Joey Diaz.
bert kreischer
Poor guy.
That's a real person.
joe rogan
Well, that gentleman should take this time to better himself.
We can all do better.
bert kreischer
I can.
joe rogan
Sometimes people just go off the rails.
That guy went off the rails.
bert kreischer
It's diet, man.
Diet.
joe rogan
Diet's everything.
But I'm not on the carnivore diet during all this craziness, because I'm just eating.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm just eating calories, because I... Like the supply chain and the way things are, there's no way I can justify only eating meat.
Unless I'm only eating my meat, like the elk meat that I eat.
How much elk meat do you have?
I got a lot for you.
bert kreischer
Done.
joe rogan
I got freezer bags for you.
bert kreischer
Fuck yes.
joe rogan
I love giving it away too, man.
I love when people cook it.
But other than that, it's like...
I need to eat food.
I'm not concentrating on weird diets.
I could eat only meat, but I'm not even thinking about that right now.
What I'm thinking about right now is making sure that I make the right decisions with everything that I do from here out because I think we're in unsung territory.
We're in Neverland.
bert kreischer
How long do you think you can go?
joe rogan
I don't know.
But here's the thing.
This is what I really feel like.
We all got to do this together.
The problem is even thinking, how long can you last?
Part of the problem is even thinking that.
Well, how long can we last?
How long can all of us last?
And I think if the power goes out, that's when we're really forced to cooperate.
And I don't want the power to go out.
I want us to figure it out before that happens.
I want us to take this plunge into the apocalypse and baby steps.
bert kreischer
Here's my question.
Would you host a shitty game show?
No.
Hold on.
If it meant giving money to people in need of money in this time.
They go, hey, Joe, we want you to host, who wants to be a millionaire?
joe rogan
Hey, but why would I do that that way when I could do it right here?
bert kreischer
No, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
I would never do it anywhere else.
No.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, I don't want a boss.
You can't do it.
Nothing you do you could do if someone was looking over your shoulder telling you what to do.
Some corporate guy who just wants to make sure that he can keep paying his mortgage and funding his lifestyle.
He's got a lot of experience producing television shows.
Just let me handle this stuff and you do your job and I'll do my job.
Blah, blah, blah.
Bert, we gotta have a talk.
You drink too much, you're getting too fat, your belly's out all the time, and networks don't like it.
The next thing you know, you're some fucking different thing!
bert kreischer
You can't do it!
joe rogan
And I'm sure you appreciate the gig you got at Travel Channel just like I appreciate the gig I got at Fear Factor.
But it's not that it's not a great job.
It is a great job.
It's just like everything in life.
If you have higher expectations of yourself, if you want to express yourself in the most accurate way, the best at being comfortable in your own skin, the only way you can do that is by yourself.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't have some fucking giant bankrolled machine with hundreds of employees all with their job riding on whether or not you say the N-word.
Jesus, Bert!
They're like, fuck!
bert kreischer
They would have lost their jobs.
joe rogan
Hundreds of people in the corporation.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
He's drunk!
You can't rap lyrics!
You can't!
You can't say those words!
bert kreischer
Do you realize how many times if there was a corporation behind Burt Entertainment, they would be like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Well, that's the irony, isn't it?
The irony is, look how successful it is without any of that intervention.
If you just are yourself, if you just are authentic, and that's what you are, and that's why it works.
That's why all podcasts work.
They work precisely because there's not a machine behind them.
There's not a giant corporation behind them that counts on them.
They work because they're independent.
That's the only way you get real people.
The fucking thing that you get when you make people behave in this weird way, it's not a good thing.
It's like you're not getting an accurate representation of what it is to be a person.
You can't count.
And they're just lying to you.
I mean, that's why politicians in political speeches are so strange.
They almost universally act like no one you've ever met.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
When they're doing those speeches, when they're standing in front of a podium, doing that thing with their thumb and doing their best Barack Obama impression, you're literally putting on an act.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're putting on an act.
I have no idea who you are.
You might be a morning DJ from fucking Cincinnati.
Hey, here we come.
I'm coming at you with a hit.
It's Kid Chris.
unidentified
19 to 6. Here, you're up to early people.
joe rogan
You're the people getting it done.
All right.
I mean, how many of those guys were interchangeable?
How many of those guys were interchangeable and you could put them in a strip club?
They could be a strip club DJ. They could be a regular DJ. Top 40, there was a voice.
Now, when someone's talking in that voice, you have no idea what their real thoughts are.
You have no idea.
Not a clue.
And that's most of what we got with, like, the Today Show.
Like, if Matt Lauer had a podcast and it turned out that he was just a pig...
bert kreischer
How great would that be?
joe rogan
People would be like, I knew that guy was a pig!
They'd be like...
bert kreischer
Oh, that would be so fucking awesome if he leaned into it.
unidentified
Well, if he was just who he actually was, right?
joe rogan
Like, when you're doing a show like that, like something like the Today Show, one of the reasons why people are so angry is because you've been pretending.
You're this, like, wholesome character all this time.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You've been pretending.
bert kreischer
How great would it be if Matt Lauer did his Matt Lauer voice, but he was talking about porn he jacked off to?
He was like, has anyone seen Tentacleborn?
And back right now from 8 o'clock hour.
It's Matt Lauer.
We're going up again.
joe rogan
Wouldn't it be better if you figured out how to not be that guy that you are on TV and just be who you are when the TV's off?
bert kreischer
I don't think he knew who he was ever.
I think what defined Matt Lauer was being famous.
unidentified
Ooh, you just hit a fucking nerve.
bert kreischer
It defined a lot of us getting into this business, and then I think a lot of it shifted.
I think the good ones stuck to what they wanted to go, what they wanted to be, and I think a lot of people still just want to be famous.
joe rogan
Well, you know why?
One of the reasons why is because it's hard to be.
bert kreischer
What?
joe rogan
It's hard to be famous.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when there's a thing that's out there that's hard to get, like, how the fuck do I get that?
You ever seen, like, some people, they're into, like, exclusive things?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
You know what I mean?
Like, you only want one, like, if there's only four of these bags in North America, I've got to get it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, girls will get, like, certain bags.
bert kreischer
Shoes.
Guys get shoes.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
Travis Scott's.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of dudes that are into Jordans, like, specific old-school Jordans.
I'm looking at you.
jamie vernon
All right of me?
unidentified
Excuse me?
joe rogan
Well, you're into sneakers.
You're a sneakerhead, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
Have you bought any sneakers since the pandemic?
jamie vernon
I bought one pair last night.
bert kreischer
Oh, you are horrible!
jamie vernon
But they're on sale for like a hundred bucks.
joe rogan
I get it, man.
I get it.
I get it.
I get it in some ways.
bert kreischer
But you were saying people that are into elite things correlating to famous people?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to get that bag, and it's hard to get famous.
So when you're not famous, it looks like a thing that would be cool to have.
Like, oh, look, look at this bitch walking on that red carpet.
Goddamn, look at those shoes.
That bitch, she paid $300,000 for that outfit.
Look at her chain.
Oh, my God.
Look at this.
Look at that car she got out of.
That's a million-dollar Bugatti.
It's hard to get, man.
If you're driving around town in a fucking 2001 Honda Accord and you see someone step out of a Bugatti Veyron that you know costs a million dollars, you're like, holy shit!
God damn, look at Gucci Mane.
There's certain things that you see that you just get really jealous of, not because you would actually want them, but because they're so unattainable.
And people fuck up with that.
That's why girls get asses that are too big.
They get crazy, and they get this bizarre diaper ass with these little skinny legs, and the two things don't work together.
Why?
It's because they overshot the mark, right?
You painted your house pink.
Slow down, okay?
Okay, you had a bad idea and you ran with it.
unidentified
I think it looked good from here.
bert kreischer
Keep going.
Paint the whole fucking house.
joe rogan
I saw some guy who built something on his house that was basically a fuck you to his neighbor.
He built like a middle finger somehow.
Oh, it was three chimneys.
He had three chimneys together like this to build like a fuck you to his neighbor because he hated his neighbor.
bert kreischer
Dude, that is such a fucking investment to fuck you.
I don't have that kind of money.
joe rogan
See if you can find that guy.
bert kreischer
That is literally fuck you money.
joe rogan
I think he got in trouble for it.
I think maybe he said something about it or something.
Look at those fingers.
That's to you.
I wrote that because I fucking hate you.
bert kreischer
Johnny Depp has a big gorilla flipping off his neighbor, I think.
joe rogan
A gorilla?
bert kreischer
Like a huge fucking gorilla.
joe rogan
But Johnny Depp has like 18 houses.
bert kreischer
Which house?
He wanted the last one on the block.
joe rogan
Oh, and there's someone who bought it?
bert kreischer
And the guy wouldn't sell it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
He owns like a whole block.
bert kreischer
He owns a whole block.
I spent the night at his house one time.
joe rogan
Okay, let's slow down.
bert kreischer
Dude, I have a voicemail from Johnny Depp I haven't deleted.
joe rogan
I enjoy talking to him, man.
bert kreischer
He is fucking awesome.
joe rogan
I was drunk on margaritas in Hawaii, and Stan Hope put me on the phone with Johnny Depp.
And I was like, man, how weird is my life?
I'm sitting here talking to Johnny Depp while I'm hammered in a lawn chair in Hawaii.
bert kreischer
Dude, him and Stan Hope called me one night, and I let him go to voicemail.
I regret it so much, but I got it on voicemail.
Bert, it's Johnny.
I'm with Doug.
You know, me and Tom are working on a script with Johnny.
joe rogan
Are you really?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good.
Good for you.
bert kreischer
We pitched it on the podcast and I was like, and then all of a sudden everyone got interested and I was like, fuck it, I'll write it.
joe rogan
I tell you what, I enjoyed talking to him.
He's a very wise guy.
He's a very, when you talk to him, he's there.
He's a dude experiencing something that a small fraction of all the humans who have ever lived have been able to experience.
He's experienced fame on the most preposterous and staggering level imaginable.
And then he's experienced that as almost like he owes people something.
So he's being held to these standards that...
None of us would ever want our own lives to be held to.
And some weird fucking legal battle between who did who to what to what happened and his recordings and all this chaos.
God damn, living this out in the open like this.
It's sad because you look at them in a different way because of that.
bert kreischer
Not when you watch the Pirates movies.
joe rogan
He's brilliant, man.
bert kreischer
He is so good in those movies.
Like, so good on so many levels that I've seen them all, and we just, the first week of Pandemia, we just watched all of them all over again.
joe rogan
Dude, Donnie Brasco.
bert kreischer
Donnie Brasco is fucking amazing.
joe rogan
He's so good.
bert kreischer
In Blow, he's fucking out of this world.
joe rogan
He's one of the best actors we've ever had.
One of the best American actors that have ever existed, for sure.
bert kreischer
Without a doubt.
joe rogan
And I'm telling you, as someone who talks to crazy people all the time, and talking to him, he's as remarkably put together as you could ever expect a person to be that's as famous as he is.
He's a really good guy.
Like, you talk to him, he's there.
He's talking.
He's just talking to you.
He's there for you.
He's talking.
He's a good guy.
He's just experiencing something no one is prepared for.
He's Johnny Depp.
bert kreischer
Johnny Depp?
joe rogan
He's Johnny Depp.
How many Johnny Depps are there?
There's one bitch.
There's one.
bert kreischer
There's one fucking Johnny Depp.
joe rogan
There's seven billion people on this planet.
He's experiencing some weird shit.
You know, he's not a bad guy.
bert kreischer
Dude, Edward Scissorhands.
joe rogan
Dude, he's done everything.
bert kreischer
I mean, that guy is...
joe rogan
How many movies has he done?
bert kreischer
How many movies?
Let's ballpark it.
I'm going to say 50. Yeah, I think you're right.
unidentified
I'd say at least 40. Wasn't that 21 Jump Street?
joe rogan
Yes!
Yeah, you're right.
21 Jump Street.
jamie vernon
Was he on Fame?
bert kreischer
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
I'm going to live forever.
bert kreischer
I'm going to learn how to fly.
jamie vernon
The Freddy Krueger movie.
bert kreischer
Yeah, he got killed in Freddy Krueger.
joe rogan
Oh, he got killed in Freddy Krueger.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he got head pulled through a thing, right?
joe rogan
Isn't that funny?
And he comes back and he's like, let's find a way to have a guy with claws for fingers, but he's a nice guy.
That Edward Scissorhands after he got killed by the worst guy with claws for fingers.
Dude.
There's three guys historically in film with claws for fingers.
bert kreischer
Wolverine.
joe rogan
But his was different because they came out of his knuckles.
bert kreischer
They always confuse me because they get broken off but still came back.
joe rogan
But Freddy had him on his finger.
Look at him.
unidentified
Goddamn.
bert kreischer
My God, look at that belly.
joe rogan
Amazing that he came together so well.
bert kreischer
That's a fucking team belly.
joe rogan
He was beautiful.
He was a beautiful man.
Like, that's not a normal development.
Congratulations to him for making it to be as normal as he is.
So he's with this guy, who is one of the worst, with the claws or fingers, and then he becomes Edward Scissorhands, who's just kind of confused.
bert kreischer
What a stretch as a character, too, to play that as this confused...
My nickname in college was Edward Penis Lips.
joe rogan
You know another weird thing that he did?
You know what I really enjoyed?
bert kreischer
What?
joe rogan
The Lone Ranger.
The more recent Lone Ranger.
unidentified
I never saw it.
joe rogan
He played a Comanche.
I kind of got into this when I was reading Empire of the Summer Moon.
There's a book about Comanches.
bert kreischer
I bought it on audiobook.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
I say reading, I'm lying.
I listen to it on audiobook, too.
But then I started reading things about it online, and one of the things I started reading about it is that Johnny Depp played a Comanche in this movie and actually did some weird shit.
He had a stuffed bird on his head, which apparently some of the Comanches and some different Indian tribes would actually do.
Crazy Horse even did that.
He had a stuffed hawk on his head.
But he played this really weird character, man.
jamie vernon
Tonto.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was a really weird Tonto.
bert kreischer
It was out there Tonto.
joe rogan
It was like super fucking natural, spiritual Tonto who brings the Lone Ranger back from the dead.
He brings it back from the dead in that movie.
But it's a dope movie, but you're interested in it because of Johnny Depp.
The character's so ridiculous, this Native American guy that brings someone back to the dead, but Johnny Depp plays it so hardcore.
He plays it so to the bone that it's like, you really believe that this guy brought him back from the dead.
bert kreischer
That Tonto, the original Tonto, got in a lot of fucking trouble towards the end of his life for playing Red Face.
joe rogan
Oh, did he?
bert kreischer
Yeah, they called it his Red Face.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, is he not really Native American?
bert kreischer
I think he was.
joe rogan
Is that what you're saying?
Or is it that he was Native American, but that he played Native American in movies?
bert kreischer
I'm a little high.
I think he's Mexican.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
bert kreischer
Well, maybe he's part Mexican, part Native American.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
bert kreischer
The fact is that he talked like, oh, me so horny.
Not me so horny.
Fuck, that's me being...
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
jamie vernon
Here's the chimney thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
jamie vernon
Cactus on the side of a house.
joe rogan
That's it.
It's his chimney.
bert kreischer
Oh, nice.
Did you find Johnny Depp's?
joe rogan
The outside of it is cactus?
jamie vernon
Oh, that's a cactus.
It was painted to look like a cactus.
joe rogan
Oh, you said it was in a chimney.
jamie vernon
Correct, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's just cactus?
jamie vernon
It's found to be true, though.
He did this to piss off the councilman neighbor or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he didn't like them.
But I'd be like, my God, this guy's hilarious.
Imagine the amount of effort he put into it.
bert kreischer
Look at that.
Right in his backyard.
joe rogan
So ridiculous.
And that's a councilman, that's why?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so that's why he brought it up.
That's his Trisand effect.
jamie vernon
Utah, yeah.
joe rogan
More people are going to pay attention.
That guy hates you.
bert kreischer
See if you can find Johnny Depp's gorilla.
joe rogan
He has a gorilla?
bert kreischer
A gorilla.
I think I saw it.
joe rogan
He owns a gorilla?
unidentified
No, no, no.
bert kreischer
Like a big inflatable gorilla flipping off his neighbor.
I think I touched it.
joe rogan
Damn, how much do you drink?
bert kreischer
There it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What does it say?
Johnny Depp and his home gorilla in congratulatory for...
So he has this sculpture in his yard.
bert kreischer
Right into his neighbor's backyard because he wanted to buy the house and they wouldn't sell it.
joe rogan
Wow, he needs to let that go.
bert kreischer
I love his hats.
joe rogan
Be a good neighbor.
bert kreischer
I love his hats.
joe rogan
He's a guy who can pull off hats.
bert kreischer
Great jawline.
joe rogan
It's almost like he's apologizing for being so good looking so he dresses goofy.
bert kreischer
I would love to get to that place where I started wearing fucking outrageous outfits.
joe rogan
You could do that.
Just lose a lot of weight from here on out.
What if you come out of this better than anybody?
Maybe that's one thing we should do.
bert kreischer
What's that?
joe rogan
Maybe all of us should get together and have a quarantine challenge.
Maybe we should get together.
Yeah, while this is all going down.
bert kreischer
It's like you're playing with my balls under the table with your foot.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
What'd you say?
jamie vernon
It's open-ended.
joe rogan
Open-ended?
What, are you scared of an end?
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
I'm not scared of a finish line.
bert kreischer
I'm so into this.
You know this is how my brain works.
joe rogan
I'm thinking, like, for all of us, like, what better way to turn this into a positive than to, like, just make some sort of healthy competition out of it, a la Sober October.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I love it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I gave myself a break tonight, today with booze.
I brought weed just in case.
joe rogan
Listen, we're doing a podcast, Bert.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm sure you've got a big comedy special out on Netflix.
We've got to have fun.
It was a success.
We did exactly what I wanted us to do.
bert kreischer
This is perfect, dude.
Perfect.
If you had told me in college, hey man, you know that guy on news radio?
You're going to party with that dude.
I'd be like, fucking, do I have to fuck him?
And he's like, not Andy Dick, not Andy Dick.
It's Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
bert kreischer
I mean, this is like, my life's worked out pretty good.
joe rogan
Oh, all of our lives have, man.
You know, for me to be me is one of the weirdest things to, you know, that I could wrap my head around.
I have a hard time wrapping my head around it all the time.
bert kreischer
And do you, like, and I, not to draw back to this, but, like, it brings my perspective of, like, Honestly, just how fucking lucky we are.
I think immediately I go, wait, staff at the fucking store.
You gotta help, man.
I'm overwhelmed by that.
We need to do a comic relief or something big on our platforms that we can do where we can raise money.
joe rogan
We could definitely do that.
We should definitely donate as well.
You know, I'm donating.
I'm waiting for them to set something up, but I think we should continue to donate.
And I think that particularly with the people that we, you know, we have a system of all of us.
There's the wait staff, there's the management staff, there's the kitchen staff and all these places.
They've all taken a big hit.
And it's far worse for them than it would be for the same amount of money for us.
So I think we could pick up some slack.
I think if we all do that together and we figure out a good system within all the clubs, we could keep everybody okay.
I think that's doable.
I don't think that's bad.
I think that would be great for all of us.
I think it would be great for all of us as a community.
We'll realize that we can all chip in.
We can help each other.
I have a lot of meat that I've been giving out to a lot of my comedian friends.
bert kreischer
I'll be taking some of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
It makes me real happy to be able to do that.
bert kreischer
You know, the girls and I got into bow and arrows.
joe rogan
Good.
Beautiful.
Do you have a target in your yard?
bert kreischer
In the new house, yeah.
Beautiful.
We're not going to be able to rebuild the new house anymore, but we've got a great backyard.
joe rogan
You can always go there and use the backyard from your old house.
bert kreischer
We use the backyard for the new house and we live in the old house.
joe rogan
You know, it's not going to last forever.
And this is going to be a...
I hope not, at least.
This is going to be an opportunity.
This is the best thing you can say.
It's an opportunity for us.
No one can say it's going to be this or it's going to be that.
And I've heard a lot of people that try to either comfort people...
Or they try to push their point across, almost as if they can win this argument, then it's more likely to be true and it's comforting in some sort of a weird way.
But no one knows.
No one knew four months ago, no one knew four months ago that four months later we'd be here.
No one.
Zero people knew that.
So if we didn't know that, we don't know what's coming in four months from now.
It can compound.
This is still, right now, even in quarantine, the best time that humans have ever had.
Ever.
bert kreischer
On Earth.
joe rogan
Obviously not for the people that are the victims of the disease.
But we can be okay coming out of this.
And it could be a wake-up call for people to stop living these lives that are unsatisfying and figure out a way where we stop chasing bullshit.
bert kreischer
It's my whole fucking life.
joe rogan
Stop chasing bullshit.
bert kreischer
It's amazing, man.
Just perspective.
And I think, I don't know, if I walk away with any fucking perspective, then I'm a better man, I think.
Because, man, I was on the tour every week, every week, fucking burn it.
I remember, like, I keep going back to this conversation with Ali Wong.
She's like, you're touring like it's going away.
And I was like, yeah, right?
joe rogan
That's such an Ali Wong way of putting it.
bert kreischer
She pulled me aside in the hallway in front of the OR and goes, hey, you're torn a lot, huh?
I went, yeah, yeah.
She goes, yeah, you're torn like it's going away.
That's hilarious.
I go, yeah.
joe rogan
Ultimately, you were right.
You should call her up.
See?
unidentified
This is what I was talking about, lady.
joe rogan
It fucking did go away.
unidentified
It's gone, Ali.
bert kreischer
Where the fuck?
joe rogan
It's gone, Ali.
It might be gone for six goddamn months.
We have no idea.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, they might have...
I mean, I literally know nothing about when the window of a vaccine is.
I've heard elaborate numbers from 12 months to 18 months.
I do not know.
I've heard all sorts of different stuff about promising medications.
And this is within the first couple of months.
Do not know.
There might be something they come up with in a month or two.
Who knows?
Do not know.
bert kreischer
The cool thing about the news cycle is waiting for hope.
To get online and get excited and go, oh, breakthrough today.
joe rogan
But that's where, like, goddamn, man, once the shit goes sideways, that's when you need a really good leader.
You really do.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You need someone who is honest.
When all the bullshit goes away, when everyone's worried about an invisible monster that wants to kill your grandma, wants to sneak into her lungs and shut them down, when people are worried about that kind of shit, you really want someone who has their character and order.
This is one of the things that we should really take deeply into consideration when we talk about someone being a president.
Or any politician, anyone who's a leader.
How are they going to react when shit goes sideways?
How are they going to keep it together?
Are they going to make you feel good about the reality of this world?
Or are they going to just freak you out with bullshit?
Are they going to make you feel less connected to it because you know that their words are not honest?
And that they're not accurate.
They're not heartfelt.
It's just spitting out bullshit.
And you're like, fuck, this goddamn car is going sideways down the highway and no one knows what to do.
bert kreischer
That's why we need to vote for The Rock.
joe rogan
I'd vote for him.
bert kreischer
I'd vote for him.
San Andreas?
joe rogan
I would get behind him 100%.
bert kreischer
I would.
joe rogan
I'm all in for The Rock.
As good as he is about everything else in life, he'd be great a president.
But no one should be president.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but The Rock could.
Like, what you need is a figurehead to let you know how today is going to work out.
Like you said, those inspirational speeches mean a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And The Rock could give us every morning from the Iron Jungle, just like, guys, big day of legs.
Hey, listen, the economy's doing good.
joe rogan
Yeah, but right now, everyone loves The Rock.
If he became president, 40% of the people would immediately start hating him.
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
Yes, 100%.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
100%, bro.
bert kreischer
Unify the country.
joe rogan
Impossible.
Can't be done.
We love it.
bert kreischer
Oh, they start digging into his past.
unidentified
Yes.
bert kreischer
Oh, I'd love to know it's in the Rock's past.
joe rogan
And be mean.
Just be mean.
Talk about how dumb he is.
He doesn't read.
He doesn't do this.
Yeah, he's got biceps.
Say a bunch of mean shit to him.
And then attribute to his decisions what the economy's doing and what this is doing and that.
Yeah, like that.
Why would he do that?
Would he just keep doing Jumanji movies and everybody fucking loves them?
bert kreischer
Jumanji movies are so fucking good.
unidentified
So good.
bert kreischer
Dude, Awkwafina in the latest one.
Awkwafina was the fucking home run.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
When she came out.
unidentified
She's hilarious.
bert kreischer
Dude, I texted her.
Oh, you know her that well?
Well, I kind of, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, someone's name dropping.
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
I called her out on Instagram going, hey, this is fucking amazing.
Awkwafina's amazing.
My daughters love Awkwafina.
Love her.
She replied.
She was like, hey, thank you.
joe rogan
Dude, when she played Danny DeVito...
bert kreischer
Like, I'm sitting here watching Kevin Hart doing a Jewish accent going, what the fuck's going on?
When Awkwafina came in, I went, I got chill bumps.
joe rogan
She even had a Danny DeVito slump that she was walking around with.
bert kreischer
She stole the movie at that point.
joe rogan
She's really good.
bert kreischer
But dude, The Rock, when The Rock goes off-brand and he goes, listen, you weak-ass bitches, listen, motherfuckers, I get my heart skips of beats.
When he pours a tequila and you're like, wait, it's the middle of the afternoon.
This is why I love The Rock!
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, when he was playing Danny DeVito, it was hilarious.
bert kreischer
Dude, they were...
Oh, that's right.
Kevin Hart was playing Lethal Weapon.
Danny Glover.
joe rogan
Danny Glover.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Hart's funny as fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, and The Rock was playing Danny DeVito.
It's so ridiculous.
bert kreischer
Dude, those Jumanji movies, do not let down.
joe rogan
The second one was just as good, if not better, than the first one.
bert kreischer
The first one, Ice came out of the movie theater and I said, girls, this is the best movie you'll ever see in your entire life.
I'm 47 years old, you'll never see a better one than this.
joe rogan
It was a perfect movie that you could take your family to.
And the second one was the same way.
It's a great movie if you're looking for a family movie to watch on lockdown right now and you haven't seen Jumanji 2. It's excellent.
It's really good.
It's fun, man.
Kevin Hart is a talent.
He's a special talent.
And that redhead who throws kicks, that chick is badass.
bert kreischer
Gorgeous.
And Jack Black's back.
It's fun to watch him be not something other than what he's good at.
joe rogan
The dude who plays the football player, Fridge, he's awesome.
The Instagram influencer, it's a great cast, man.
bert kreischer
It's an amazing fucking movie.
It's funny to know Kevin Hart.
My daughter the other day said something about Kevin Hart, and I said something.
She goes, well, you act like you know him.
I go, yeah.
Yeah, I know Kevin.
She goes, you don't know Kevin Hart.
I go, the fuck I don't know Kevin Hart?
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Do you know Kevin Hart's brother is like a legit professional pool player?
bert kreischer
Kevin Hart's brother is in the front row at the DC Improv one night.
And I'm making jokes.
I'm talking some fucking horrible joke.
And he's laughing hard.
And I say, you look like fucking, you look like a dirty ass Kevin Hart or something.
And he goes, I'm his brother.
And I went, sure you are.
And he goes, no, I'm his fucking brother.
I go, no, you're not.
And he goes, I'm his fucking brother.
He pulls out his idea.
I go, oh, fuck, he's his brother.
I told him all the Kevin Hart stories I had.
joe rogan
He's a legit professional pool player.
bert kreischer
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah, like really good.
Yeah, I watched videos of him play, and I was like, oh, this guy plays like a pro.
He plays like, if you're watching any real professional play, if you ever catch ESPN nine-ball events, like Johnny Archer playing Earl Strickland or Shane Van Boning, he plays like those guys.
Like legitimately.
Really?
Plays like a pro.
Yeah, I watched him play.
I was like, oh, he's like a real pro.
Wow.
bert kreischer
Did you watch that documentary, Don't Fuck This Up, with Kevin Hart?
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
bert kreischer
He had, like, legit back surgery.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Like, cut down his spine.
joe rogan
What did they have to do?
bert kreischer
I don't know, I drove by the fucking accident driving to work one day.
Yeah, that's his brother.
joe rogan
Yeah, his brother plays really good.
Like, really good.
Like, as a person who's been playing pool, I've been playing pool for almost 30 years.
When I watch him play, I was like, I'm like, oh.
Okay, he's like, like, watch this, he's doing this drill.
Watch, he's going across, and he's making room for the ball to the other side.
bert kreischer
Oh, his brother's legit good.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, no, like a real professional pool player.
And he has these videos that he'll put out of instructional drills like he's doing right here.
This is a positional drill that he's doing to try to get in line for each ball.
Well, he fucked up here.
unidentified
He's got a bag.
joe rogan
Oh, he goes the other way.
Once you pass the side pocket, then you go the other way.
Oh, that's interesting.
So the whole idea is just drilling, cutting balls in off the rails.
It's very difficult to do.
And he's doing it like Mika Eminen or someone like that, like a real professional.
He's really good.
Like, I watched him play, and I sent Kevin a text message.
I go, dude, your brother is fucking legit.
Like, he's a real pool player.
bert kreischer
His brother is legit.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, he's really good.
Like, he's a guy that, like, looks like he could win.
Like, he's playing Darren Appleton.
Darren Appleton is, like, he was a top snooker player in England, and then came over.
Or he played American.
Actually, I think he played English 8-ball, too.
But then he came over to America and started dominating in pool.
And so that guy's playing guys like that.
So Kevin Hart's brother's playing like top-notch world beaters in pool tournaments.
bert kreischer
Whatever their dad did is good.
Created two fucking monsters.
joe rogan
Oh, their mom.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I think they both cry.
You like how I... Sexist piece of shit.
joe rogan
It's just the dad's cum that did everything.
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
It's the dad ignoring them all through their childhood.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that men always think that?
Whatever, his dad...
bert kreischer
His daddy issues.
It's all daddy issues.
joe rogan
Good genes.
His dad must have been a fucking savage.
We all do that, though.
bert kreischer
It's all dad issues.
That's why you succeed.
It's because you want to please your dad, I think.
joe rogan
I don't know.
That kid could be.
That could be.
See, whenever we try to make your motivation for anything or your reason for success a binary thing, a one or a zero, it's like, there's a lot of factors.
A lot of factors, heartbreak could lead people to success.
Some guys get their heart broken and they just go, oh, okay, I'm going to show you.
bert kreischer
Time to teach everyone who didn't want to fuck me that they wanted to fuck me and they didn't know it.
joe rogan
Or time to teach someone who says that you're a loser.
Someone who used to love and they chastise you and say you're a loser and you're like, oh, you think so?
Okay, well, I'll check in with you in about six years and we'll see how this works out.
bert kreischer
There's girls I want to give trophies to.
unidentified
Trophies?
bert kreischer
And go like, hey man, you did it.
You told me I wasn't going to make it and I want to thank you so much.
joe rogan
People can do that to people, you know, in those emotional moments.
Like I said, the most mean shit because they know that it's going to hurt.
But sometimes it works.
unidentified
That's the thing about stuff like fat shaming.
joe rogan
Sometimes it works.
bert kreischer
I didn't even know I was fat until Tom told me I was fat.
I thought I was good looking.
I swear to God, I look at those videos, I go...
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Ugh.
Like, I'm fine.
bert kreischer
I thought I was perfect.
I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
I grew a beard.
I can't see it anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's funny.
Like, fat shaming feels bad.
But sometimes you have to feel bad to make changes.
But so sometimes fat shaming can be like the most valuable thing anybody could ever do to you, but you don't want anybody to do it to anybody.
I don't want anybody to do it to me.
I don't want to do it to anybody.
However, it's very valuable.
bert kreischer
If it happens, it helps.
joe rogan
It's like a gold that can make you rich, but it could also burn your hand.
bert kreischer
Should you pick it up?
joe rogan
I think you probably should.
You'll heal from the burn.
bert kreischer
I listen to this app when I run.
It's called Aptiv.
And there's this guy, Akeem.
And he'll sometimes...
His coaching...
We were talking about coaching.
My wife losing weight because she's got a trainer.
Sometimes coaching can get to the heart of what you need.
And there's a part of this fucking run I do with Akeem where he goes, you know all those people that talk shit about you?
And I go, Tommy.
Tell them they're wrong.
I go, Tommy.
He goes, then push it this next one.
I always crank it up a little higher.
joe rogan
I go, do you have any regret for underperforming in the sober October?
Do you have any regret?
bert kreischer
Yes!
Horrifically, yes!
joe rogan
Why didn't you get after it earlier?
bert kreischer
I couldn't.
I never could.
I never could.
It fucked in my head.
My OCD fucked up.
Every time.
Every time it fucked my head up.
joe rogan
But there was so much trash talking.
Everybody wanted to beat you.
Everybody just wanted to get ahead of you.
bert kreischer
I got so overwhelmed by our Sober Octobers, like so overwhelmed, that it would be like- Well, the first one was easy.
At one point, Tom talked me off a ledge and he goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, remember, you're just a comedian.
For real?
And he goes, you are not an athlete.
You're just Burt and you're a comedian.
Don't lose sight of that.
Because I would get like, I would get over-fucking-whelmed.
First Sober October, easy peasy.
We all did 15 sober, whatchamacallit, hot yogas.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Easy.
joe rogan
Easy.
bert kreischer
What happened was, the next one I rolled into, like, no big thing, and you did a hike with Marshall, and I did a hike without a dog, and I pretended I lost my dog.
But the whole joke was that I lost my dog, but I was like, Joe, you do one mile, I do two.
You do two miles, I do four.
And then I was like, I'm here with my dog Priscilla, Priscilla, Priscilla!
And then I pretended to lose Priscilla, right?
It was a joke.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And that's when I watched the fire ignite in you that I had not seen since high school.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
And then I started getting, like, overwhelmed, and I wasn't sleeping.
I was, like, getting up to run.
My sciatica was hurting.
It was so fucking aggressive that all the fun that I rolled into when Tom and I did the weight loss challenge and I just drank the whole time and lost like 40 pounds.
All that fun got so lost in the Sober October.
I was like, I gotta fucking win, man.
I gotta fucking win!
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't experienced anything like that since I was about 20 to 21 years old.
That was the last time I experienced that kind of obsession with something physical.
bert kreischer
It leaked into the marathon.
We were in here talking about the marathon.
And then all of a sudden, me and Tom and...
Already we're at the NCAA championship game for the payoff.
I was like, I entered the LA Marathon.
And Tom goes, why?
I said, I'm going to run a marathon.
And he goes, you don't have to.
And I went, I already decided.
joe rogan
You don't have to.
That's such a dumb thing to say.
bert kreischer
He's like, yeah, you don't have to.
I don't know why you're doing it.
And I said, because you guys said I couldn't.
And he goes, no, no, we don't care.
And I was like, I'm going to do it.
Like, I was lost.
I ran the LA Marathon.
I remember, but there's an attachment I have to whatever that focus is, where I go, I do it for specials, where I get so dialed in, it's really unhealthy.
joe rogan
But it's not, because that's how you create something great.
Like, when you do a special, I know how much energy you put into it and how much you think about it.
bert kreischer
Dude, I was obsessed.
joe rogan
You have to get obsessed.
bert kreischer
Obsessed.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to.
bert kreischer
With this special, I was like, I don't want to be the guy that does the same special three times in a row.
I want to grow.
I want to create.
I want to show, like, my big fucking white whale was like that Starbucks bit I do where I go, do you see that one where I mentioned your name?
And I go, that's, for me, and this is like way overthinking it, this guy walks into a bar.
It was an homage to an old school joke, but present in the way I tell stories.
And it defines me laughing at jokes.
And it calls my friends.
It was like my favorite joke I've ever written.
I love...
But that obsession's not healthy, man.
It's not healthy to be a regular dude.
joe rogan
It's not that it's not healthy.
I don't agree with that.
I just think it has to be balanced out.
But I think it is healthy because you know that that bit, when it came out, it was fucking killer.
It needed that...
It needed all that obsession for it to grow.
That's a great bit.
We have a bit that you really enjoy.
It really cracks when you get up there and people really laugh hard.
It's hard to make one of those.
And I think it's worth it for you giving in to that obsession so that the audience can experience a really well-crafted, really rockin' joke.
It's fun.
There's no other way to make them, man.
bert kreischer
I don't know another way.
joe rogan
Dude, I don't think there is another way.
Every special that I've ever put out, I've always fucking hated immediately afterwards.
Didn't know what I was doing while I was doing it.
I just can't believe people like this crap.
But you edit it, man.
You sit and listen to it for hours and hours and hours.
You fucking hate it by the time it's over.
bert kreischer
Josh Potter said, or Nadav, for Two Bears, One Cave, our guy, goes, Hey man, I loved your special.
And I went, Really?
He goes, it's brilliant, man.
Your gun bit's awesome.
And Josh Potter's like, your gun bit's awesome.
And I'm looking at Tom.
I go, Tom, did you think it was awesome?
He goes, we all thought it was awesome.
And I was like, for reals?
Like, I, dude.
joe rogan
I know you hate it because you see it too much.
God.
You gotta realize, if you're seeing a special over and over and over and over and over again, all the surprise is gone.
So you're just analyzing the mechanics of the bits, and maybe I did this one better in the first show, but that one better in the second show.
But you're not experiencing what it's like to not know where you're going.
The audience is the only one that gets to experience that.
So it's so hard for you to get a...
And then, the one thing I always say, and I'm going to say it again.
Because it's just true.
bert kreischer
I know what you're going to say.
joe rogan
When you're in the audience watching a special, you're getting 100%.
If you're at home watching on Netflix, you might get 70. I don't think you really get 70. You probably get 60. You probably get 60% of what it's like to be in the room.
Because as a human, there's something about laughing in a room full of 2,000 other people that are laughing.
And you're a little buzzed.
You're like, bah!
You get on stage, you take your shirt off, and they go, yes!
And everybody's into it.
It's a big part of what stand-up comedy is.
You're almost just getting a reference point.
It's like Google Maps when you're watching it in real life.
Or watching it on YouTube or something like that.
Or watching it on Netflix.
It's like Google Maps.
Because it's not like being there.
If you stood there on the ground, you're like, oh, this looks different on the ground.
You hiked in, you're like, oh, okay, the mountain's this way.
And I was looking at Google Maps.
I couldn't tell because I'm looking down on this thing.
That's what it's like when you're in the audience of a comedy club, is like being there versus watching it on Netflix, which is like Google Maps.
It's way better than not being there.
Google Maps is dope.
You can go visit the fucking rainforest.
Just go look in there.
Spread it out.
Move it around.
Look at that.
Get pictures.
What the fucking ground looks like from the sky.
But it's not going to be like going to the Amazon.
bert kreischer
That's one of the obsessions I had with my last, not this one, the last one, was I had one experience with Tig.
Tignataro?
Tignataro, man.
One of the biggest lessons I ever learned in stand-up.
We did Premium Blend together.
And she went first, and she, for the first time in her life, probably sucked a dick.
Like, literally sucked a dick.
Was so bad on stage.
And she'll admit it.
She'll admit it.
And I went up after and I murdered.
I, 1300 people, I murdered.
I watched the taping.
Tig destroyed.
Because her jokes were amazing.
She didn't play for the room.
She played for the people in the audience.
The people on television.
And I went, that's so interesting.
Here I am like raising my voice.
Like going like, what's up UCLA? Like everyone at home is like, dude, dial your shit down.
I learned so much after watching Tig that I went, don't play for the people in the room.
Play for them in the room, but make sure, be cognizant that you're making this for a television show.
I don't know whether she meant to do that on purpose or not, but man, I watched her settle in that premium blend and she murdered and I bombed on TV. And I was like, yeah, don't go in and go, what's up Jacksonville?
joe rogan
Wait a minute, so you murdered in person but bombed on TV? Bombed on TV because my energy was so high.
But if you murdered in person?
bert kreischer
Because it was 1,300 people.
joe rogan
Who convinced you that you bombed on TV? Did you convince yourself?
bert kreischer
You can pull up that premium blind set.
joe rogan
But you did well in front of the crowd.
bert kreischer
In front of the crowd, but I was playing louder on the mic.
joe rogan
Did you smoke too much weed today?
bert kreischer
I might have.
joe rogan
Making no sense.
bert kreischer
I just had a good Tig Notaro sucking dick joke.
I was trying to slide it.
joe rogan
I understand what you just did there.
Congratulations on that.
bert kreischer
Thank you.
joe rogan
Especially in this era.
I wonder if people are going to get less concerned about politically correct things.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think that, like, Jamie and I were talking about gender pronouns.
bert kreischer
They're like, call me whatever you want to call me as long as you have toilet paper.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, let's just be nice to each other and fucking relax.
I think that's part of what we're going through as a culture, the outrage culture, is because there wasn't anything real to fight against.
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
There was nothing real that was a real problem as opposed to every other single era of humanity, which was filled with strife and trouble.
bert kreischer
Dude, look at guns.
The gun control shit?
That's not a conversation anymore.
joe rogan
Shut the window!
I know so many left-wing people lining up to buy guns now.
bert kreischer
Oh!
Everyone!
joe rogan
Yes.
Including my friend's wives, who used to get mad.
If they even heard talk about guns, they would get mad, and now they're asking the husband to go get a gun.
No bullshit.
bert kreischer
No bullshit.
joe rogan
Asking me about what kind of gun, what do you have, where do you keep it, that kind of shit.
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
bert kreischer
Dude, so that's off the board.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's off the board.
Listen, once refrigeration goes, that's when you see what's up.
Once power goes, that's when you see what's up.
We live in a ridiculous way.
We live in a way that's only sustainable if the super fragile system stays in place.
I mean, it's robust in terms that it handles millions and millions of people, but it's fragile in the sense that One gigantic solar flare could wipe it out.
One earthquake could wipe it out.
Power surges.
Something crazy, that asteroid shower that hits Earth, wipes out everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're not sustainable.
We're only sustainable under certain conditions, and a big part of those conditions is the power grid.
bert kreischer
I wonder how much this is going to change the way people behave, meaning gardens, chickens, rabbits.
joe rogan
We should have community little patch of garden in every community.
Just have an area.
You have five houses, have one empty lot.
For five houses.
bert kreischer
That would be brilliant.
joe rogan
Brilliant, right?
One empty lot the size of a lot that a house would be built on, and then you just grow vegetables and have chickens.
Even if you're a vegetarian, folks, listen to me.
Chickens, you don't hurt them when you eat their eggs.
There's no hurting them at all.
If you're feeding them well, their eggs would be nutritious.
They're real easy.
As long as there's no coyotes around.
That's the number one problem that I have is coyotes would target the chickens.
But other than that, you just let them go out in the yard, man.
They find bugs to eat and worms to eat and then their eggs are delicious and you're not hurting them.
And they prefer being in the chicken coop.
They go in the chicken coop for safety.
You shut them in there.
You let them out in the morning.
They were like my little friends.
bert kreischer
The best thing your wife ever did in my entire life affecting me was convince my wife to get chickens.
joe rogan
Dude, because you get healthy food almost every day.
You get several eggs.
At a high point, we had 22 chickens.
And we would get like 10 eggs a day.
Every day, 10 eggs.
And I'd eat six eggs for breakfast.
Really good.
Delicious.
Just fucking nutrient-rich.
Protein-rich.
And no one gets hurt.
bert kreischer
I got double yolks one time.
My favorite in the world.
joe rogan
The problem is if you want more chickens, then you're going to have to have a rooster.
Roosters are cocksuckers.
They're assholes.
They scream in the morning.
They wake up everybody.
They piss off your neighbors.
Everybody wants them dead.
bert kreischer
Dude, a chicken laying an egg is loud.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I had David Tell in my man cave doing a podcast with Tommy, and a chicken started letting...
unidentified
It's really aggressive.
It's weird.
bert kreischer
And Tell goes, where the fuck are we?
Go out of my own village?
joe rogan
Can you imagine if humans did something like that where every day a fucking egg came out of your twat?
bert kreischer
And we could eat it?
joe rogan
It would be so ridiculous.
Because chickens can eat their own eggs, too.
And you have to keep them from finding that out.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If they find out, they'll start pecking eggs.
Especially eggs that aren't theirs.
Yeah.
Yeah, so if an egg falls and breaks, you've got to be really careful that the chickens don't find out about it.
Because once they find...
Look, they're little dinosaurs, bro.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Little dinosaurs.
You know, one of them tried to bite my youngest daughter when she was...
She was very young at the time.
I want to say she was somewhere in the neighborhood of four or five when this chicken started pecking her toes.
And my wife's like, oh, she probably thinks her toe is a worm.
I go, no, she's trying to eat the baby.
That fucking cunt chicken is trying to eat the baby.
She doesn't think she's a worm.
How come she doesn't think I'm a fucking worm?
Right?
She just thinks that that thing is slow enough and young enough, she might be able to eat it.
Because chickens can tell when things are vulnerable.
Because they're little predators, man.
You've seen chickens with mice before, right?
bert kreischer
Uh, yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen them in real life with a mouse?
bert kreischer
Uh, no, not in real life.
joe rogan
I've seen it several times.
bert kreischer
Rats run amok in our chicken coop.
joe rogan
Yeah, well those chickens will turn on that rat if they can catch them.
They can catch that motherfucker in a corner, they'll tear them apart.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I've been thinking about hunting rats with my pellet gun.
joe rogan
Well, rats, anywhere you live in California where there's hills and people, you're infested.
bert kreischer
And fruit trees.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
We have an orange tree in our backyard, and it's fucking infested.
joe rogan
Well, just garbage cans on a regular basis.
Garbage cans outside.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And ways inside.
Find a way inside your house.
I used to live in Encino, and I had a place that I was renting that was totally infested with rats.
It was foul, man.
They were big rats, too.
bert kreischer
You hear them running around inside the walls.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Also, I set a trap once, and I went out.
I saw there was a rat, and I was lazy, so I went back to bed.
I'm like, I'll clean it in the morning.
I went out there in the morning.
They had eaten it.
bert kreischer
The rats had eaten it?
joe rogan
The rats had eaten the other rat.
It was a big rat, too, dude.
A big fat boy.
Like a pregnant squirrel.
Like a fat rat.
A big rat.
And this rat trap killed him.
I was like, holy shit, but I was tired.
unidentified
I was like, I gotta be at the set in the morning.
Psst!
joe rogan
So I left that rat in there.
I went out in the morning to go look at it.
I was like, oh shit.
I had a whole wild menagerie in my house at that time when you think about it.
I got rats eating each other in the garage.
I got a feral cat that I'm locked in a room with.
I got two pit bulls.
I got a fluff ball cat.
I was surrounded with weird animals.
bert kreischer
I remember hearing you talk about those times where you'd come home and the dogs would have fought over something.
unidentified
Yeah, oof.
joe rogan
That happened twice.
Came home and the dogs tore each other apart.
It was horrible.
What drew you to those?
It was one female that I got from the pound.
unidentified
Sigh.
joe rogan
That I got because of Brian Callan.
Brian Callan called me up.
He's like, dude, you got to see this little puppy pit bull.
She's so adorable.
You're going to see her.
You're going to fall in love with her.
You got to see her.
He was at the LA Animal Shelter.
I'm like, God damn it.
I'm like, okay.
So I went down there.
I was a moron.
You know?
So I went down there and I saw this little thing and she was trapped.
And the LA animal shelter, at least at the time, the place that I'm thinking about, I'm not sure if I'm getting the name right, was a no-kill shelter.
So they operated on donations.
They keep an animal alive for a long time.
So she had been inside this place for several months and she was really kind of weirded out.
By being in jail for that long and not getting a lot of human contact and someone I took her home and I would pet her and love her, she would get really aggressive with the other dogs to keep them away from her because she didn't get enough love when she was younger.
So now that she's finally getting love, love was so valuable that other dogs, she didn't think of other dogs as being her friends.
She thought of them as love thieves.
So they would come near her.
So there was a couple different instances that happened, and one of them happened when the pool guy had apparently come over.
And then the pool guy was petting both dogs, and one dog attacked my female, my little female, attacked the bigger male to keep him away from getting petted.
She didn't want him to be pet.
She wanted all the pets.
It was just a matter.
Look, and I had a bit about it that I did for a little bit, but it's basically I had a prison dog.
I mean, I brought home a prison dog.
This dog had been a prisoner for a giant chunk of its little life, and by the time I got it home, it just was not tolerating any bullshit, and it had this attitude no matter what.
It loved people.
No fear at all about it being mean to people, but around other dogs, it was very dangerous.
Very dangerous.
You never knew.
It thought of other dogs as being thieves.
I thought of love as being a very valuable commodity, and other dogs as stealing her love.
bert kreischer
God, man, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, because my other two dogs were not like that at all.
One of them, I had him since he was a puppy, and the other one, I got her right around the time that he was a puppy, and she was only maybe a year old herself, and she was another rescue dog I got, and they were best friends.
So they were fun together.
bert kreischer
How many dogs have you had in total?
joe rogan
Five at one time.
I had five at one time.
All together.
bert kreischer
Five at one time?
joe rogan
So much barking.
bert kreischer
Whitney Cummings?
joe rogan
I love dogs, man.
bert kreischer
I love dogs.
Whitney loves dogs.
joe rogan
I love them.
If I could have 20 dogs, I'd have 20 dogs.
But it's not fair for the dog.
Dogs need...
They're like family members, man.
They need love.
This dog, Marshall, is different than any dog I've ever had.
Because there's zero challenging in him.
He's not barking at anybody.
He's not growling ever.
He's growling like to play.
I could come up to you with like a toy in his mouth like...
unidentified
And I'm like, dude, you got that toy.
joe rogan
What do you got?
But his tail's wagging.
Like, there's no aggression to him.
He's just all love.
bert kreischer
What was the thought behind a German Shepard?
A golden retriever?
joe rogan
Well, I never had one before, but I heard they're great dogs.
I've always heard they're really good family dogs.
bert kreischer
I had a lab, a black lab, Abigail, which was fucking the greatest dog.
joe rogan
They're so smart.
bert kreischer
She dived to the bottom of the pool and grabbed rings.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, those are dogs that people use to hunt ducks.
Those kind of dogs, they're task-oriented dogs.
You can teach them to do things.
Like Marshall, whenever he comes over in the morning, I'll get up in the morning and I'll say, what's up, bro?
unidentified
What's up?
joe rogan
And he's like, who?
unidentified
Who?
Who?
joe rogan
He always grabs a toy.
Always grabs a toy and brings it to you.
He never just comes to you and pets you.
He comes to you and shows you a toy that he's got because his genes are retrievers.
So it's like a bird hunting dog.
Someone would shoot a pheasant or something like that and he would grab it and bring it back or whatever.
Whatever bird it was.
And that's what he's doing.
And he holds it in his mouth and brings it to you to show you.
He rarely tears his toys apart.
bert kreischer
They have super soft mouths.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just carry them around.
He's the sweetest.
bert kreischer
Does he go swimming yet?
joe rogan
All the time, bro.
bert kreischer
Loves it.
I want to get my...
Izzy is our new bull mastiff.
I want to get her in the pool because you can tell she wants it.
unidentified
How old is she?
bert kreischer
Six months, seven months.
joe rogan
You got to get her in soon.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got to get her in soon.
bert kreischer
Priscilla fell in the pool all this old fuck.
joe rogan
And does she know how to swim?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Yeah, she got out, but we didn't know she fell in.
She just came in, and you could see this in this dog's eyes, like, just, you have no fucking idea what happened.
Soaking wet, and we're like, how did you get wet?
And then you see she fell in off the steps, and then found her way out, but man, you think, you gotta teach the dog the way out of the pool.
joe rogan
Yeah, so you've got to teach them the way out of the pool, and hopefully you've got to have a dog-friendly pool.
There's more than one ladder somewhere.
You don't want to have a pool where you have to take the dog out yourself.
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are not good.
It's hard for dogs, too, when they get their paws up on the concrete to get their whole body up.
It's not easy.
It's not easy for them like it is for us.
You get your hands on the concrete on the side anywhere, you can just push yourself up and you sit on the side.
A dog can't do that.
A dog's got to go up steps.
Unless it's like some super dog or something.
But yeah, man, if it was up to me, I'd have like 20 dogs.
bert kreischer
I want to get Priscilla and Mona, the two dogs, the older dogs, when they pass, we'll have this fucking idiot dog, Izzy.
It's an idiot?
How old is it?
Like fucking six, seven months.
She's beautiful.
Beautiful coat.
joe rogan
You gotta teach them.
bert kreischer
Oh yeah.
She just is like...
joe rogan
It's not gonna learn?
bert kreischer
Man, this dog has so much fucking...
It's like, it's almost like, just like blind eyed to you.
Like, huh?
What?
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Like she's on crank all day.
bert kreischer
All fucking day.
joe rogan
What kind of dog is it?
bert kreischer
Bull Mastiff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's why those are great protection dogs.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
So much energy.
bert kreischer
She has got, man, something goes down in the backyard, this bitch is on it.
Yeah.
Right out there.
joe rogan
Looking for something to do, man.
She's raised for something to do.
That's like when a regular person gets a Belgian Malinois.
And so it's bringing that goddamn thing around everywhere.
Like, oh, look at you, you little fucking demon.
You little black-haired demon.
bert kreischer
What's a Belgian Malinois?
joe rogan
Designed to take out prisoners.
bert kreischer
Is that the fucking German Shepherd looking dog?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly like a German Shepherd looking dog.
But they look so fierce, man.
Those dogs, we used them a bunch of times on Fear Factor.
Look at the fucking athleticism of this thing.
bert kreischer
Look at this fucking animal.
joe rogan
Look at that thing go to the roof.
Take this guy down.
They're wild dogs, man, in terms of their athleticism.
Look at that thing fly up.
Shut up.
Have you seen the one where there's a treat or a ball hanging from a tree?
And so this Belgian Malinois jumps, runs up the side of the trunk of the tree, and then leaps sideways like 20 feet in the air to snatch this ball.
Look at this.
Look at this thing walking on tight ropes across two buildings.
Bro, you don't want nothing to do with this dog.
bert kreischer
That is a dog that was clearly not trained in America.
joe rogan
It's going backwards now.
You don't want jack shit to do with this dog.
You just do not.
Look at that thing go after people.
Yeah, you can't let that motherfucker go.
They're amazing.
Look at that.
bert kreischer
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Dude, how about that?
How about it jumping over this guy's back and jumping into the bed of that truck as it's speeding down the street?
Look at the fucking athleticism these things have.
And you really only get that kind of athleticism with a dog that's like that size.
You know, it's not a giant dog.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
How much do you think that weighs?
joe rogan
I don't think they're very big at all.
bert kreischer
60 pounds?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably 60 or 70 pounds for a good size one.
Although we were just talking the other day about someone who had one that was really young and it was already 90 pounds.
Somebody had one that was like...
Who was that that was saying that?
That was one that was like 6 months old and it was already 90 pounds.
Was it Andy was talking about somebody?
Yeah, so the average is like 75 pounds for a male.
Wow.
That's on the high end.
So this guy had one that was already 90 pounds that was six months old.
They also had doubled canines, the ones that he was showing us.
bert kreischer
Like great whites?
joe rogan
On each side, they have two canines on the top.
See if you can find that image.
Double canines, Belgian Malinois.
Fuck.
That's the thing they're breeding.
They're making hybrids.
You know, like they take a grapefruit and they mix it with an orange.
Didn't they do something stupid like that?
bert kreischer
A grapple.
joe rogan
Yeah, a grapple, right?
A grapefruit and an apple or something.
bert kreischer
Grape and an apple together is a grape-faced apple.
joe rogan
Look, it's got double canines.
bert kreischer
Shut up.
joe rogan
Yeah, some of them have two canines.
bert kreischer
I couldn't live with the dog.
I almost bought a Doggo Argentino.
And the guy was like, right before I bought it, he was like, hey, are you going to have this dog in bed with you?
And I go, yeah, of course.
He goes, I'm not selling it to you.
And hung up on me.
Really?
Yeah, because there's certain dogs where you have to become the master.
Like Doggo Argentinos are like bull mastiffs, but pit bulls on steroids.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And the guy was like, yeah, man, once it gets in bed with you, you've lost the house.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I was like, alright, good call, man.
Thank you for stopping me.
joe rogan
So it fucking tells you, no, I'm running this house, bitch.
I sleep in this bed.
Who the fuck are you?
bert kreischer
Who the fuck are you, bro?
He's fucking my wife.
I'm like, hey, I didn't know we were going to share her.
joe rogan
Imagine he starts growling at you while he's humping your wife's leg.
You're like, oh no, what have I done?
I'd let this giant beast get too comfortable in my house.
200-pound murderous dog that wants to fuck your wife.
Look at the build on that thing.
bert kreischer
That's the most beautiful dog I've ever seen in my life.
joe rogan
It looks like It the Clown if it was an evil dog.
bert kreischer
It does look like It the Clown.
joe rogan
It does.
Go back to that picture.
It looks like Pennywise.
Jamie, that picture you were just on.
No, go back to the one you were just on.
unidentified
It looks like...
joe rogan
That's one!
That's Pennywise the Clown, bro.
bert kreischer
Oh, fuck.
That's fucking Pennywise.
I'm so glad I didn't get one now.
joe rogan
It looks like Pennywise!
Doesn't it?
bert kreischer
Look at that fucking dog.
joe rogan
Oh my god, the muscles in that thing are preposterous.
bert kreischer
When was the last time you got attacked by a dog?
joe rogan
I've never been attacked by a dog.
bert kreischer
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
That looks like the rock if it was a dog.
Look at the build on that thing.
bert kreischer
Look at that, man.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
bert kreischer
And that's probably 130 pounds.
joe rogan
That's a girl, too.
That's a female dog.
bert kreischer
Try to grab onto any part of that dog to stop it from killing you.
joe rogan
Good luck, bitch.
bert kreischer
There's not one part of you.
joe rogan
That looks like a demon.
Like a sweet-faced demon that you got wandering around your yard looking to kill burglars.
bert kreischer
That's the dog I wanted.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Look at the build on that fucker.
Jesus Christ!
unidentified
Look at those dead eyes.
joe rogan
That is a crazy dog to have around your house.
Like, you gotta really be on top of things.
bert kreischer
Jesus!
joe rogan
Look at that head with the collar!
Look at the head!
Look at that one in the middle!
Oh my God!
bert kreischer
Look at that jaw!
Look at the fucking head on that thing!
joe rogan
Look at the fucking head on that thing!
bert kreischer
Oh my dick's almost hard, that dog's so pretty!
joe rogan
Oh my God!
Bro, that's a polar bear.
That's like having a polar bear.
How's that any different?
How's that any different than that dude?
bert kreischer
Those and Connie Corsos are fucking...
unidentified
Ridiculous.
bert kreischer
That's the shit with dogs.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
If my wife leaves me, I'm moving to Malibu, I'm getting a Connie Corsos and a Doggo Argentino.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are...
bert kreischer
Good fucking...
Oh, look at the fucking muscles in the chest of that thing.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
That's just too weird.
I feel like if you have a dog like that also, it's like you have this obligation to work that motherfucker out.
bert kreischer
Every day.
joe rogan
Every day.
You have a super athlete.
You just can't have that thing in your yard being bored.
That's a different kind of dog.
bert kreischer
That's why he was like, you're not letting in bed with you.
I was like, oh, of course, yeah.
Why?
He was like, wrong guy.
joe rogan
He'll start running shit, son.
You got to keep those motherfuckers on a leash and train them well from the time they're really young.
Or get one that's trained.
But even then, what I've heard about, like, Belgian Malinois in particular, like, you got to be the boss.
Like, that thing has to respect that you're the boss.
bert kreischer
Is that what Schaub got?
joe rogan
He did for a little bit.
bert kreischer
And then he gave it back.
joe rogan
He went out of town and wouldn't listen to his wife at all.
It was like, fuck you, bitch.
And she's like, oh, no, I got this crazy dog in my house.
It's not listening to me.
Yeah, but if a dog thinks you're not the boss, then it becomes the boss.
Like, it decided Brendan was the boss.
Like, look at this big motherfucker with a deep voice.
You know, he's six foot five or whatever he is.
Brendan's gigantic.
And so he's around this dog.
He's like, hey, bro.
And the dog's like, okay, big guy.
Okay, big guy with the food.
I'll be cool with you.
And the wife's around like, who the fuck are you?
Who are you?
And where's the big guy?
I think I'm the big guy, motherfucker.
That's why you have to get a dog when it's a puppy.
When you get a dog when it's a puppy, then you're the daddy.
When I get up in the morning and Marshall's waiting for me, I'm like, bro!
benjamin jaffe
That's what I say to him, bro!
joe rogan
And he's like, woo!
And he goes running around in circles and shit.
It's a healthy relationship.
For his whole life, he's associated me with going on runs and getting belly rubs and playing.
You get a dog when it's fully grown.
You have no idea what was going on.
You don't know what was going on.
You weren't there.
You don't know what was going on.
You're getting a two-year-old dog that's trained.
Trained how?
By who?
Were you there?
I mean, you can assume from some guys, because you trust their reputation, that they're really good at raising dogs, but it's not the same relationship as when you raise a dog from the time it's a puppy.
bert kreischer
No.
Puppies are...
Man, there's nothing better.
The dog we have now got me because I was in Phoenix doing a show.
My wife's on the road with me.
She goes, hey, there's a puppy like 20 miles from here.
And I went to the house, walked in, and this fucking dog climbed up in my lap, laid her head on my shoulder and just went to sleep.
And I went, bitch, you're going home with us.
joe rogan
They're too adorable.
Puppies are the cutest thing that you ever get to experience other than a baby.
And maybe even more than a baby, because you're not as...
You're not as concerned about them being vulnerable, so you can appreciate them more sometimes, unless it's your baby.
When it's your baby, you're just so full of love, you don't know what the fuck to do.
But other people's babies are pretty cute, but other people's puppies are always cute.
Oh, yeah.
bert kreischer
I'd much rather play with someone's puppy than their baby.
joe rogan
Way more!
Way more!
They're universally adorable.
There's something about a puppy, even the way they move, they move kind of funny, with their big ass heads, and they go playing, like, ah!
bert kreischer
When they do that front paw jump, right, left, like...
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just having fun.
bert kreischer
What sucks is where we're at now with this puppy, where it's still a puppy, but it's big, and you're like, yo, you cannot just jump up on the fucking bed and fucking just...
joe rogan
Have you ever given it lessons?
Do you give it lessons on how to...
bert kreischer
I haven't been home for a while, but I think I'm going to start giving this fucking dog some lessons.
joe rogan
You can't just have the dog make the rules, man.
You've got to make the rules.
bert kreischer
Oh, she is fucking hilarious, but man, she gets up, like just gets up on your lap.
joe rogan
You should have rooms where the dog's not allowed to go in.
bert kreischer
Okay.
Dude, I'll be taking his shit, and this dog will walk in the closet, grab a shoe, and just walk out, look at me, and go, oh, sorry, I didn't know you were here.
unidentified
Just walk right out.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so funny.
bert kreischer
Fucking dog has no rules.
She learned how to open the trash can, like, pull the cabinet, and just stick her head in the trash can.
You go, is he?
And she'll go, oh, what?
Doesn't even say no, just, yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta train her, Burr, before it's too late.
It might be too late.
bert kreischer
It might be.
joe rogan
This might be, you might need to bring in Cesar Millan for this one.
bert kreischer
I ran into Cesar Millan the other night.
joe rogan
You need to run into him.
It's fate.
Where was I? You were on Destiny Boulevard.
Cesar Millan was there to stop you from being a future episode of his show.
unidentified
What the fuck, man?
joe rogan
You can't do that, Bert.
That's ridiculous.
bert kreischer
Where was I? I met Cesar Millan.
joe rogan
Where were you?
That's a good question.
bert kreischer
Fuck.
I must have been somewhere.
Like some sort of event.
joe rogan
I don't know, but you need to have him help you fix your fucking dog.
bert kreischer
Yeah, this fucking dog is all over the map.
joe rogan
Dude, it's already 3.30.
bert kreischer
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Oh shit, we've been going for three hours.
joe rogan
We've been going three and a half hours.
Ridiculous.
bert kreischer
This is awesome, man.
joe rogan
Awesome.
unidentified
The best.
bert kreischer
I love doing this podcast.
joe rogan
I love doing it.
I'm so glad that with all this craziness, we could still do something like this.
bert kreischer
Fuck yeah, dude.
Social distancing.
joe rogan
Yes, just we're not making out anymore and I hope you guys at home listen and stay safe and Burt Kreischer, Hey Big Boy is available right now.
Let's break the internet you fucks.
bert kreischer
Please.
joe rogan
It's available right now on the Netflix.
Go there, enjoy and that's it.
Burt Kreischer on Instagram, Burt Kreischer on Twitter.
Do you even use Twitter anymore?
bert kreischer
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
Do you pay attention to the mean people?
bert kreischer
No.
I read it without my glasses, so I can't see what they're saying.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
bert kreischer
I'm just loving her tweet.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
Well, thank you, brother.
I love you, man.
bert kreischer
I love you, too, man.
It's good hanging out with you.
joe rogan
Always fun.
Bye, everybody.
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