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Nov. 6, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1378 - Greg Fitzsimmons
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joe rogan
Three, two, one.
Gregory!
greg fitzsimmons
Joseph!
joe rogan
Sober October's over.
But we were allowed to smoke cigars during Sober October for whatever reason.
But they do get you high.
greg fitzsimmons
They do give you a nice little buzz.
joe rogan
They do.
It's weird that that's thought of as being a sobriety thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Is it really?
joe rogan
I mean, if you're smoking, people smoke cigarettes when they're sober.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
All those fucking AA guys, right?
Those guys were always...
Those guys were always smoking.
greg fitzsimmons
Those guys will tell you you can't have a non-alcoholic beer, which I do.
I haven't had a drink.
It'll be fucking 30 years next month that I haven't had a drink.
joe rogan
Didn't you have like one or two when Meanie died?
greg fitzsimmons
When Meanie died, I had some scotch.
joe rogan
That's a weird one, right?
greg fitzsimmons
I had like...
I didn't get drunk, but I had like a few shots.
joe rogan
Did you feel weird about that?
It had been all those years.
greg fitzsimmons
I think I felt so weird about him being dead that the whole thing felt surreal anyway.
And, um...
I haven't really...
I haven't had the desire...
I can't say I can't have the desire.
It's more of just like...
You feel like there's times where you want to just do what everybody else is doing and just chill out.
And you see everybody getting more mellow and relaxed and social.
And especially if I'm in a situation where...
You know, it's a bunch of people I don't know that well.
Maybe it's your kids, friends, parent kind of situation.
joe rogan
Nice glass of wine to take the edge off.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude.
joe rogan
Dude.
But you did the couple glasses of scotch, and then you didn't go right back to it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like you became a 21-year-old drunk Greg again.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Well, a lot of it has to do with my father.
And he was an alcoholic, and I saw...
I saw his depression.
I have the same depression as he does, and I felt like when I drank, it wasn't always for fun.
A lot of times it was like dealing with feelings and bullshit like that.
And so I saw him as an unhappy guy who was unfulfilled in a lot of ways, and I saw the alcohol was a big part of why his life wasn't what it could have been.
And I just sort of feel like, you know, maybe I could drink, but maybe I can't.
Why fuck with it?
joe rogan
No, why fuck with it?
I'll tell you what, man.
I just got done with a whole month of being sober and then I had my first drinks this weekend.
I felt like shit.
greg fitzsimmons
No kidding.
joe rogan
I felt like shit.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I had a couple of glasses of wine, went to play pool, and I was having a hard time focusing on the ball.
I was looking at the ball.
I was like, three glasses of wine?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's all it takes?
Three glasses of wine?
I'm having a hard time seeing?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
It took like, because everything's just a little off, it took like an hour before my liver processed it enough where I could play pool well again.
greg fitzsimmons
Do you think you just lost your tolerance?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, I've never been a big drinker anyway.
But it was interesting doing sets.
That's what's always interesting.
It's not like a shot before I go on stage.
I always like to do a shot of Jack before I go on stage.
unidentified
Just, whoa!
greg fitzsimmons
That's a standard for you?
joe rogan
Yeah, a little bit of whiskey.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
For a big show, just one shot.
greg fitzsimmons
Bang!
Yeah, Brian Regan, one shot of frozen peppermint schnapps before he goes out.
Or of peach schnapps.
joe rogan
It gives you like this.
But it's not necessary.
You know, it's definitely not.
I mean, I did a lot of shows this month.
Stone Cold Soba.
greg fitzsimmons
Isn't it weird, though, the human condition that we're born with this set of, you know, this brain and these neurological pathways and this relationship to the universe and the people around us, and that we want to, whether it's smoking pot or drinking or taking opiates, we want to change the natural state of our brain.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Isn't that fucking weird?
joe rogan
It's very weird.
greg fitzsimmons
Because it's all we talk about.
All people talk about, dude, what did you do last week?
Oh, dude, we got fucked up.
I changed my brain.
I made myself dumber.
All weekend, I made myself dumber.
joe rogan
Did a bunch of stupid shit I should have never done.
greg fitzsimmons
And I did stupid shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Because in our natural state, we don't do goofy shit enough.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
But then I learned when I quit drinking that I could be just as crazy.
People didn't realize I quit.
I'd be hanging out with my same friends in the same bar until four in the morning.
We'd go to a wedding.
I'd be the last guy on the dance floor, first guy on the dance floor.
And I just was like, you know, this doesn't have to change me, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You can just enjoy fun.
greg fitzsimmons
You just enjoy fun.
It takes a little bit more of, I think you have to sort of break through walls a little bit more as opposed to just the booze does that for you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
But you can still get there.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good way of looking at it.
The one thing that I found that affects my writing.
Marijuana is like steroids for writing.
Oh my goodness.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
For you?
Oh my goodness.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah!
Dude, this weekend, as soon as I started getting high again, I'm fucking, my notebook's full.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
All these crazy ideas.
Yeah, man.
Half of them are dog shit for sure.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Half of them, at least half of them are dog shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Half would be, you're doing pretty well.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty good, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I got a few that I'm like, ooh, there's something in this.
There's something in this one.
Definitely something in this one.
greg fitzsimmons
So, is it like after the show you get high and then you write or you do it during the day?
joe rogan
Well, I didn't do any shows this weekend because I was in New York for the UFC. And I had some friends that I was going to see while I was down there.
My friend Tommy.
So I was playing pool with him.
And Hinchcliffe came with me too.
He plays pool too.
But I just decided to not do comedy this weekend.
I'm like, I'm here for the UFC. I only got a chance to see Tommy.
He's like one of my good friends from fucking 2018. Five years ago?
More?
28 years ago, maybe?
I might know him for almost 30 years.
I've known him for fucking ever.
We've become old men together.
But we get together and play pool until like 2 o'clock in the morning.
I haven't had a chance to do that forever.
I only really get a chance to do it once a year when I see him.
So I decided not to do any shows.
But just...
While we were playing, I was just getting all these ideas.
Generally, I like writing at night when everyone's asleep.
That's my favorite time to write.
I like to come home from the store and I sit around with the laptop and I just start writing.
Just force myself to just write for an hour or so.
Just write.
greg fitzsimmons
Just free form.
Just get it all down.
joe rogan
Yeah, have a subject to start.
I don't try to write in joke form.
I try to write essays and then I try to extract ideas out of those and then turn those into material.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the way to do it.
It's like...
I used to do this thing called the writer's way, which is this great way to...
It's not just for writing, but just to get your creativity flowing.
And one of the things you do is you get out of bed in the morning and you don't have your coffee.
You just take a piss.
You don't have to take a piss.
You can shit.
Like, if you want to shit, you can shit.
joe rogan
You're allowed to?
greg fitzsimmons
You're allowed to shit.
unidentified
Okay.
greg fitzsimmons
As a matter of fact, I think that probably helps a lot.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want the...
Shit inside of you.
What are you trying to write?
greg fitzsimmons
Also, what better feeling than your anus like re-puckered after delivering like that.
unidentified
It's just a giant dump of lumber.
greg fitzsimmons
Just a little halo over the log floating in the water.
And then you sit down and you write three pages non-stop.
You don't let the pen stop.
And then you go about your day.
And you get out.
It's amazing what your subconscious will get out when you just keep the pen flowing.
And like you said, a lot of it's garbage, but within it, there's going to be a couple kernels that are good.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how creativity works with me.
I mean, I'm not a consistent hitter.
I'm not a 500 hitter in terms of creativity.
If I get half, half is amazing.
greg fitzsimmons
Half would be amazing.
joe rogan
500 is amazing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, most of it's garbage.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes I go back and it just gets frustrating reading some of the shit I wrote.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you...
But I know what I'm doing.
Like, when I'm writing, I'm just trying to see if I can dig something out.
Yeah.
Like, I'm out there with a metal detector.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Some guy just found some fucking incredible ancient treasure using a metal detector.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
See if we can find that, Jamie.
greg fitzsimmons
On a beach?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to say...
Fuck, what era was it from?
Ship, right?
No, no, that was a different one.
Yeah, that was a crazy one too.
A guy found a fucking shipwreck that was on the beach that was exposed by a crazy storm.
Like a storm came along and it pulled away so much of the sand that a fucking shipwreck was there.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
This guy's there walking his dog.
He's like, um, what the fuck is this?
This is a boat.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Oh, here it is.
It's, uh, what is that?
Three million pounds?
Is that pounds?
Yeah.
War hoard of 6,000 gold artifacts from 650 A.D. uncovered in Staffordshire Field using a two-pound metal detector for $2.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Is that pounds or euros?
What is that one?
greg fitzsimmons
I think that's British pounds.
joe rogan
So from 650 A.D. So 650 years after Jesus is murdered.
greg fitzsimmons
Shit.
joe rogan
Look at that shit.
Look how gorgeous that is.
Still got the fur on the top.
We're looking at a gold helmet.
This really intricate carved gold helmet with a fucking, like a mohawk.
A fur mohawk.
That's amazing.
greg fitzsimmons
And look at the detail.
It wasn't corroded at all in that salt water all those years.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pretty amazing.
Where's Staffordshire?
It said it was in a field.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Right?
So this wasn't salt water.
Oh my god, look how beautiful that shit is.
That's amazing!
A scabbard boss.
I don't even know what a boss is.
What is a boss?
A scabbard boss?
What does that mean?
Which is part of an Anglo-Saxon hoard found by Terry Herbert.
Terry's ballin' right now.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, Terry.
joe rogan
How about Terry?
greg fitzsimmons
What did Terry do?
Did he sell it?
I mean, do you keep some?
You gotta keep some of it.
joe rogan
Are you allowed?
What happens there?
Sold to museums for $3.285 million with the funds were split between them.
He used a metal detector.
Oh, in the field of Farmer Fred Johnson.
Oh, so they split it.
greg fitzsimmons
Him and Fred split it up.
joe rogan
So they both got a million and a half.
Not bad.
But it's pounds to dollars.
It's not the same.
greg fitzsimmons
I think it's like a buck twenty.
joe rogan
So he's super balling.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Eighty percent of the items identified were fittings from weapons, mostly swords, and research believe it's remarkable so many were made from gold.
unidentified
Wow.
Shit.
joe rogan
Nine pounds of gold included were fifty incredible rare gold sword pommels as well as parts of a golden helmet.
Fucking A, man.
The golden age is period of Anglo-Saxon England.
Literally.
This was a period when gold was suddenly much more available and was converted into beautiful objects for the warrior elite.
I wonder why it was more available.
What makes gold more available?
Did they figure out how to pull it out of the ground or something?
greg fitzsimmons
They hadn't started grabbing it from other countries yet.
I guess that was their own local gold.
joe rogan
Look at this, the quotation, look at this.
A collection includes, it's believed, a battle shrine with a processional, I don't know what that word means, processional cross, suggesting Christian emblems were used as good luck charms for battle.
On it is a quotation from the Book of Number, which reads, Rise up, Lord, and let thine enemies be scattered, and let them that hate thee flee before thee.
unidentified
Boy.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wouldn't you love to hear people talk back then?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
It probably was so confusing.
Like, Game of Thrones, they talk like us.
But they didn't talk like us.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They had some weird lingo back then.
Well, Game of Thrones is obviously fake, but it was supposed to be a long time ago, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and I'm sure they researched.
I mean, everything about that show was so authentic.
I'm sure they went back and tried to find the way people spoke at that time.
joe rogan
Well, not really, though, because it's not really about a time.
It's about a fantasy land.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, I think it was The War of the Roses it was based on, which was, I think, around the first century, wasn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah, but they got fucking Dark Knights or White Knights or whatever.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah, no, they mixed a lot of it together.
joe rogan
Night King.
greg fitzsimmons
But I think there was a point where the British Empire was divided into whatever it was, five or six different kingdoms.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what they based it on?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that were all fighting for the throne.
joe rogan
Apparently they're going to do a prequel now.
Like those guys, they were not going to do it, they were going to cancel it, but they're going to do it now.
I heard it got cancelled.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I heard it got cancelled.
joe rogan
But there was just something a couple of days ago that said they're doing...
A preview, hundreds of years before.
That's about the Targaryens.
greg fitzsimmons
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Get back after it, you fucks.
Come on.
greg fitzsimmons
Give me anything.
joe rogan
The thing about that show is, they kill everybody.
So they can always have new people.
They fucking kill everybody.
Remember the Red Wedding?
Holy shit.
HBO finally issued a statement on the cancelled.
It's cancelled.
Thumbs down.
unidentified
Bad news.
It's over.
What?
Yeah, sorry.
What?
joe rogan
What do they say?
What's their statement?
greg fitzsimmons
They're bringing back Arliss, so they need space.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
Ah!
That's why he won an Emmy, ladies and gentlemen.
That's writing.
What is the statement?
Is this a good excuse?
What could their good excuse be?
We suck and we hate money?
jamie vernon
It just says they decide not to move forward with the series.
joe rogan
Fuck out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, part of the problem is that...
Who's the guy that wrote all the...
That wrote the books that it was based on, and he wrote the first...
George Martin?
George Martin wrote all of them until they got to the last season, the last two seasons, and then he ran out of steam.
And that's why they weren't as good.
People say that last season wasn't as good as the rest, because it was the two showrunners that had...
joe rogan
I thought the last season was excellent up until the last episode.
The last episode was kind of like, how do we end this?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's make the guy in the wheelchair a king.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Let's make him gay, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
It's just...
joe rogan
Come on, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, they didn't...
You know, and you think about the last episode of any show is going to get a lot of...
Remember how much shit Seinfeld got for the last episode?
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
Because they didn't do anything, and Game of Thrones did the same thing.
They punted.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
They didn't go for anything.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, the beautiful thing about NewsRadio's last episode is we didn't know it was our last episode.
It was the only time we ever thought we were going to get picked up.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
And that was how many seasons?
joe rogan
Five.
The ratings were good.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The last season, we were like, we did pretty good.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're like, fuck it.
It's over.
greg fitzsimmons
Why?
joe rogan
Probably because Phil was dead.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and Lovitz came back.
Lovitz replaced Phil, but...
greg fitzsimmons
How many seasons was that?
Just one?
joe rogan
Yes.
The final season.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I mean, who knows?
It was also the problem with the news radio was news radio was not owned by NBC. Okay.
greg fitzsimmons
Okay.
joe rogan
So it was one of those shows where we moved at least eight times during the five years that we were on the air.
greg fitzsimmons
Your time slot.
joe rogan
Yeah, just always moving.
And this is before the internet, so you couldn't tell people.
It's not like you could tweet, hey, news radio is going to be on Monday at eight o'clock, but you don't give a fuck because you have a DVR. Right.
So just DVR it.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
No, you found it when it was on, if you were lucky.
And they didn't advertise that much.
I was like, News radio, moving to Friday at 8. It just would move around.
We moved all over the fucking place.
greg fitzsimmons
What was it on, NBC? NBC, yeah.
Did you ever have a good lead-in?
joe rogan
Sometimes.
One time we were on the Thursday night, which was the big night with Seinfeld and friends, and we crushed it.
Yeah, we were like number two in the world.
greg fitzsimmons
Is that how they launched you?
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I don't remember how they launched.
I don't remember.
But I remember one time we were on Thursday and everybody was so excited.
Hey, it'll be on Thursday.
We'll be right after Caroline and the Shitty.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what we used to call it.
You remember Caroline and the Shitty?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, right.
joe rogan
It was a few of those shows, like The Single Guy.
Like, what is this?
greg fitzsimmons
And they stayed on forever.
joe rogan
Because they were owned by someone.
unidentified
NBC Productions.
joe rogan
Either NBC or someone who had a deal with NBC, Warner Brothers or whoever it was.
That's the weird thing about...
Yeah.
Right.
That's how it used to be, at least.
Now I think that model's kind of out the window.
greg fitzsimmons
Now they take that sweet spot after their number one show and they try to launch something.
They'll put something they like in there to get it legs, and then once it's good, they try to create that.
And want that to be the lead-in for another show.
It's like baseball.
Managing baseball.
joe rogan
Right.
But who the fuck?
I mean, like, who's watching TV with commercials now?
Like, who's sitting there and actually watching TV with commercials?
Like, how much time do you have?
And do you not know that there are so many shows that you could watch that don't have commercials?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you could just watch those and record that one and then come back and watch them when it doesn't have commercials or fast-forward through the commercials.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Or just get Hulu.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Pay $10 a month and watch the history of television.
Pilots!
I go back and watch Pilots on Hulu.
That's the fucking greatest.
Dude, the Taxi Pilot I just watched recently.
unidentified
Taxi?
joe rogan
I forgot about Taxi.
greg fitzsimmons
The Taxi Pilot was so fucking heartwarming.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh my god.
God, it was about Alex Krieger had a daughter that he hadn't seen, he was estranged from, and he was basically like a deadbeat dad.
And it was about him reconnecting with her.
And the second half of the episode was all of them in a fucking New York taxi driving down to Florida so he could meet his daughter.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
Nowadays, it has to be like, alright, what's the simplest, most basic storyline that lets you – you've got to get to know each character, each relationship, two or three great act breaks.
There's so much criteria that go into the structure of it.
There's no room for anything interesting to happen.
joe rogan
Where's the diversity?
Where's the diversity?
Do you have diversity?
Where's the inclusiveness?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Inclusivity and diversity.
greg fitzsimmons
What's the message?
What's the heart?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't just make a whack.
Well, I mean, you kind of can.
Curb your enthusiasm is still that...
greg fitzsimmons
HBO. Yeah, but the networks haven't done much.
Well, the networks did cool stuff with, like, The Office.
30 Rock was kind of interesting.
joe rogan
Well, the dumbest thing in the networks, for sure, are the presidential debates.
The fact that they take these people that are running for the most important job in the fucking known universe, and they...
We're out of time.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Senator.
Thank you, Mr. Senator.
We're out of time.
Thank you, Ms. Congresswoman.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mrs. Congresswoman.
You're out of time.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You have 80 seconds to just fucking spill out as many words and get your point across and try to go viral.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
And the worst part is then you got like the also-rans that are like on the edge of the...
They got the last podium on the left.
The guy's like the mayor of Dayton.
And he's trying to get headlines by taking a shot at the real candidates.
unidentified
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
Which just hurts the Democratic Party.
joe rogan
Yep.
greg fitzsimmons
Sure.
It just makes the main guy look bad because he's...
So, they got a winnow down the field.
I think a couple people just dropped out.
Beto O'Rourke just dropped out.
joe rogan
Shocking!
I thought that guy had King written all over him.
greg fitzsimmons
At the beginning.
At the beginning.
joe rogan
Fuck out of here.
He never did.
greg fitzsimmons
But he was this guy that, he got hot from running against, who'd he run against?
Ted Cruz in Texas.
Texas, of all places.
He's running against a guy who's a fucking, you know, arch-conservative.
And he comes out as this bleeding-heart liberal and almost wins.
And it's like, all of a sudden, Texas is not a red state.
It's starting to become like a purple state.
joe rogan
Purple's a good word for it.
Well, Austin's very weird, right?
Austin is this super blue area in a red state.
But it's also got a lot of cowboys and guns and barbecue.
It's such a great place.
greg fitzsimmons
Fucking great place.
joe rogan
Austin is one of the best places on earth.
It really is.
And people figured that out, too.
You go there and the fucking traffic is absurd.
Yeah.
You're like, why are you all here?
Oh, you found out it's awesome.
greg fitzsimmons
There's a great place to shoot pool there called the Jackalope.
Jack-o-lantern, Jackalope?
And it's just like, you just go in there and fucking everybody says hi.
Hey, you want to shoot a game?
Let me buy you a beer.
Great fucking music on the jukebox.
And I love that place.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not.
Well, they're a little, I mean, they're kind of aware that it's supposed to be kind of cool.
So they act a little cool.
Like, you know, keep Austin weird, those t-shirts.
By the way, if you wear one of those fucking t-shirts, those Keep Austin Weird t-shirts, you're a part of the problem.
greg fitzsimmons
You're not weird.
joe rogan
You know, you're not weird, and if you're selling them, you're a piece of shit.
You just, you're fucking it all up.
You found this spot, and you're fucking doing those Hollywood lights, you know, when they have a premiere.
Come on, everyone, here's the spot.
Let's come ruin it!
greg fitzsimmons
Let's make a documentary about why it's cool.
joe rogan
When I first started going there, though, man, I was just stunned.
I was like, what a cool fucking place.
People are educated and aware, but also Southern.
They have a Southern accent, a Texas accent, but they're also educated and very friendly and open-minded.
It's a very unique place.
greg fitzsimmons
And great fucking music.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I'm playing there.
I'm going to Cap City soon.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
One of my favorite clubs.
greg fitzsimmons
It's a great club.
joe rogan
The only club I did this whole year, like on the road.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm going there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I was about four or five months after my special, and I just put together an hour that I could kind of go on the road with.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm like, this is good.
Let's go to Cap City.
greg fitzsimmons
Bang out two shows a night.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
It's just a great place, man.
It's a fun place.
I've had so much fun there.
That club, it's got fun soaked into the floorboards.
It's a club where so many great comics have performed there.
They've got good taste.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, they curate good shows.
I mean, they get all kinds of comedy.
Like, Maria Bamford will be there one week, and the next week it'll be fucking Doug Stanhope or somebody like that.
It's just, you know, they're all over the place.
But it's not downtown, though.
That's the only thing, is you've got to take a little Uber into town.
It's about five, ten minutes out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but at nighttime, it's fine.
The real problem there is rush hour.
They have a real rush hour now.
They didn't have a real rush hour 10 years ago.
10 years ago, you could get around in Austin.
It was no issue.
greg fitzsimmons
I think it's where young kids get out of college now, and when they used to go to San Francisco, now they go to Austin.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of tech startups there.
There's a lot of the tech business...
Yeah.
I mean, Onnit's there, too.
There's a lot of shit there.
greg fitzsimmons
Onnit's there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, no shit.
Onnit Gym's there as well.
The factories there, everything's there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You go there much?
joe rogan
Not that often.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
Maybe once a year.
greg fitzsimmons
No board meetings you have to be at?
joe rogan
I'm not a board meeting kind of guy.
greg fitzsimmons
I can picture you at a board meeting.
joe rogan
Stoned.
greg fitzsimmons
Stoned.
Looking at your watch, checking your fucking phone.
joe rogan
Checking my Instagram.
Let's see if anybody posted a good Epstein didn't kill himself meme.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, fucking Epstein.
Man, what a story.
joe rogan
What a story.
greg fitzsimmons
And so now, what did they say?
That it looks like he was choked to death?
joe rogan
Yeah, his brother hired a real fucking autopsy guy to check it out, including that guy Michael Badden from that HBO autopsy show.
That guy said he was murdered.
Who dinged?
I might have dinged.
Do you remember that show, HBO Autopsy?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
It was a great show that was on basically pre-internet, where you would watch these wacky fucking stories of people that got busted murdering people by this one really good autopsy coroner.
And this coroner, Dr. Michael Badden, one of the ones I'll never forget, he took this one lady, he was in love with this lady, and she died, and he stole her corpse and had it in his house, and put a tube where her vagina was, and he had bought cases and cases of perfume, because she was rotting in his bed, and he would just douse her in perfume and keep fucking her.
Dude.
greg fitzsimmons
And he put a tube in a vagina so that it didn't collapse?
joe rogan
Well, he put a tube there so he could fuck the tube.
He put a fuckhole in this dead lady's body.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, oh my god, dude.
And apparently, it was like, the smell was insane.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, horrific.
And this guy, one of the, I think, one of the ways they were suspicious, like, why is this motherfucker buying cases of perfume?
Yeah.
But he put a mask over her face, and just the fact that it used to be her was enough.
I forget his deal.
I want to say he was a doctor, and she was a patient of his, and he was in love with her.
greg fitzsimmons
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah, just some dude who just had a fucking major fuse blow.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
It just goes to show you don't know who it's going to be.
It's not just some derelict on the street.
It could be your fucking doctor who snaps.
joe rogan
Doctors are just humans, man.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're just humans.
And a lot of them have access to drugs because of the fact that they're doctors.
There was a book called Dead Doctors Don't Lie.
And it was basically the gist of the book was that a lot of people are dealing with mineral deficiencies.
And that mineral deficiencies, it's by a guy named Dr. Joel Wallach.
It's a controversial book, and his ideas are fairly controversial, but they're not controversial in the sense that in animal husbandry, in animal agriculture, people are very aware that you need to supplement the diet of a lot of animals with minerals.
For instance, some of the places where I hunt, they don't bait animals.
These are wild animals that are in these giant ranches.
There's a place in Utah that I go to.
It's like 270,000 acres.
Huge place.
But every fucking mile or so, they scatter.
They'll put these mineral licks.
And it's a mineral lick so that the deer and the elk get minerals in their diet.
Because animals like desperately need minerals and sometimes they don't get enough of it from their diet.
And particularly from foods where the ground is deficient in minerals.
Like when you...
Say if you have, like if you're growing corn, monocrops is what they call monocrop agriculture.
You're growing corn on like fucking 700 acres, just growing corn.
Well when they till that land, like every year that land has less minerals.
You're not supposed to grow the same thing in the same place forever.
And the places that are doing it right, they do what's called regenerative agriculture.
And there's a real good argument for it's one of the reasons why it's good to raise grass-fed cattle in these areas because the manure from the cattle actually is a great fertilizer.
It's good.
And also scraps from food, fish and different things.
You need nitrate.
You need nitrogen, and nitrogen is very difficult to get when you want to put it into the ground for fertilizer and all these other different minerals.
greg fitzsimmons
Phosphorus.
joe rogan
Yeah, all kinds of shit.
You have to add that stuff to the soil now because the topsoil has been so eroded from continuous over-farming.
And that his contention was that most of us, even if you're eating vegetables and you're getting stuff at the grocery store, you're getting things that are minerally deficient.
They're not optimally mineralized, if that's a word.
I don't think that's a word.
But there's not...
So I take colloidal minerals.
It's just a liquid form of minerals, like minerals that come from...
There's a type of water that's like a very rich in mineral water that is called glacial milk.
And basically what it is is the runoff from glaciers that it carries an incredible amount of minerals in it to the point where the water actually kind of looks kind of milky.
And you can get that in some places, some places on Earth, people, their water actually looks like that because it's got so many minerals in it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And these people have like dark hair and, you know, health benefits are attributed to that.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I'm not smart enough to know whether or not that's accurate.
But there's definitely some benefit, some health benefit to taking minerals.
unidentified
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, people go to mineral spas.
I mean, that was the miracle elixir.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you take any minerals?
I don't take anything.
Is that glacial milk?
Yeah, fresh water meets glacial milk in Iceland.
Look at that.
Isn't that crazy?
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
So that stuff on the right is just fucking overwhelmingly packed with minerals.
greg fitzsimmons
So they just bottle that shit?
joe rogan
I think you probably could get too many minerals, too.
I mean, there's always the balance.
greg fitzsimmons
What is a good intake?
Like, I don't take shit.
I think sometimes I take vitamin D. Vitamin D is good, especially for a white fellow like yourself.
If you're not getting enough sun.
joe rogan
Right, right.
greg fitzsimmons
That's why I take it.
That's real good.
That's it.
Do you take D3? That's all I take.
joe rogan
D3 is very good.
I take B. I take D. I take multivitamins.
I take what this is called.
It's a company called Pure.
Pure Encapsulations.
And they have an athlete pure pack.
It's very nice because it's real simple.
A little packet I take.
Not a sponsor.
Take this packet, just bring them with me on the road, open it up, and just take those.
And then I also take...
There's a company called Athletic Greens, and they make a really good supplement that I pour into water, and it's very easy.
And it's got a bunch of different shit, vitamins and minerals.
That is a sponsor.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's good.
That's good, too, because it's whole food-based.
There's nothing synthesized.
It's all based on food.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
But I think you really should take something.
It's so hard to make sure that you're getting all the vitamins that you need from your food, especially when you go on the road.
On the road, unless you know you're eating in a really good organic restaurant where you're getting high-quality vegetables, high-quality meat.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
It's hard.
greg fitzsimmons
Hotels have gotten a lot better, man.
In our lifetime, hotel food used to be garbage.
joe rogan
How about airport food?
greg fitzsimmons
Airport food's gotten great.
joe rogan
Way better.
greg fitzsimmons
You've got lemonades in there.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You can get real food at the airport.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a big issue, man.
It's a big issue for people that go on the road.
Because you're on the road three or four days in a row eating fucking Jack in the Box.
greg fitzsimmons
You start feeling like shit.
I mean, Comedy Club food in 50 years has not gotten any better.
It's deep fried chicken wings and...
joe rogan
Except Comedy Magic Club.
greg fitzsimmons
Comedy Magic's got good food.
joe rogan
Dude, they give you a fucking serious restaurant steak there.
Like, you could go there and eat a legit excellent dinner and see a show.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, what am I saying?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I've had plenty of dinners there.
joe rogan
Very good.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, they do have good food.
joe rogan
Ice House has good burgers, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ice House has very good burgers.
Uh-huh.
But Comedy Magic Club is probably the top.
greg fitzsimmons
You know what's good, too, is Hilarity's in Cleveland.
They've got the Pickwick and Frolic restaurant upstairs.
Yes, I was just there.
That's a good restaurant.
joe rogan
I was just there.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we went to see Jesse May.
Me and Santino.
Jesse May was playing at Hilarity's, and we were over at this arena.
So we came down and saw Jesse May, and I had a prime rib.
It was fucking great.
greg fitzsimmons
It's good, right?
joe rogan
Very good, very good.
greg fitzsimmons
Nick Costas is the guy that runs that place.
joe rogan
Although Santino got food poisoning.
greg fitzsimmons
No!
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
We don't know where he got it.
I'm assuming it was the vegetables.
I mean, that's a lot of times where people get it.
You get it from things that aren't washed properly or sit out.
They say that a large percentage of food poisoning cases are salad.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I could see that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's handled wrong, not washed correctly.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, a lot of people, when they get E. coli, they get it from salad because of the runoff from animal agriculture.
The runoff from the shit, animal shit.
Gets into the water, the water gets into the lettuce, or the spinach is a big one.
Spinach, a lot of people get E. coli.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, that's why if you go to a third world country where you don't trust the water, stay away from the salad.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, right?
greg fitzsimmons
That's the first thing they say is don't eat lettuce in a third world country.
joe rogan
Good point.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
Like, meat is meat.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
As long as it's seared on the outside, you're golden.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
Look at Anthony Bardin.
He would just go to fucking Vietnam and go to a street meat shop where there's no running water and he'd just gobble down some fucking whatever meat.
He didn't even know what meat it was.
joe rogan
Well, they used to drink wine when people would travel to prevent traveler's illness.
Because they didn't want to drink water.
Because if you found a fucking pond somewhere and you try to suck some water out of it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like back then, it wasn't a lot.
I mean, you had to boil it.
That's it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Nowadays, they have a bunch of different things you could do to water if you find it.
Like you could take water out of a fucking elk wallow.
You know what an elk wallow is?
Yeah.
It's like a puddle that elk piss in, and they wallow around in it, and they get their scent on it, especially when they're rutting, when they're having sex with the female elk.
They get in there, and they piss all over the water, and they roll around in it, and so you get this muddy puddle.
And sometimes hikers, like if you're on some serious fucking trek, you know, you're doing like the Appalachian Trail or something like that, and your water scares, you can't find a creek, you gotta take the water out of an elk wallow.
unidentified
No shit!
joe rogan
I have friends that have done that.
And you throw it through some filters.
What they do is they'll take it and they'll throw it through filters.
They'll put it through a biological filter first.
So there's like a filter that's like a pump.
But the problem is those pumps can get clogged up because they're basically taking the sediment and then they're filtering it out.
And then you get the water afterwards.
It still tastes like piss.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's piss in it.
You're drinking piss.
You're just drinking piss that's not contaminated with something that can kill you.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So then, a lot of times, guys, even after that, they take something called a SteriPen.
You ever heard of a SteriPen?
Steri is short for sterilization pen.
And it uses some kind of light.
Pull up a SteriPen.
I don't want to say this wrong.
But utilizing some sort of light, some sort of...
I forgot what kind of light.
What is it?
greg fitzsimmons
UV light.
joe rogan
UV light.
And you keep it in the water for a certain amount of time.
It just nukes everything.
Kills everything.
But still...
greg fitzsimmons
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Tastes like piss.
So you're drinking piss.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're definitely drinking piss.
So a lot of times guys will take...
Like they sell these different...
There's a SteriPen.
So that little thing with that light, you spin it around inside your glass of water, and depending upon the amount of ounces, a certain amount of time, but it's not that much time, shockingly.
It's like 10 minutes, and sometimes guys even throw iodine tablets in water.
The whole deal is just kill anything that can fuck you up.
And just get over the fact that it's going to taste like piss.
And then they also take...
There's a bunch of companies.
There's a company called Mountain Ops.
They have stuff that you throw into the water to make the water taste better.
greg fitzsimmons
I wonder if you'd drink a glass of that.
If you saw a female elk and she started presenting...
joe rogan
Did you get hard?
greg fitzsimmons
You'd get hard as a rock.
joe rogan
I think you'd probably want to suck an elk's dick.
You'd probably...
You're probably gay for elk.
greg fitzsimmons
No.
No, it's not gay if it's an animal.
joe rogan
It's a male animal.
Oh, that's bestiality.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Interesting.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, they should get those into third world countries, some version of that, to help people drink water.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they definitely do.
They definitely do get filters and different things like that in certain countries.
You know, we're involved with Fight for the Forgotten.
It's my good buddy, Justin Wren.
So he's got a charity where they build wells for the Pygmies in the Congo.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
And through this podcast and through this company, a company called the Cash App, they've raised thousands and thousands of dollars and built a bunch of wells.
They're in the process of building them now, and we've donated a bunch of money to Oh, that's amazing.
It's very cool.
But my point being, this motherfucker was just here last week, and he's got a parasite they can't even identify.
And he's had it for six months.
And he gets so fucked up, like sometimes he works out, and then he gets to the point where his body turns pale, and he starts shaking and shivering, and they have to get him into a shower.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Dude, they don't even know what it is.
Do you remember what he said it was?
They think it was a type of parasite?
jamie vernon
They've been testing Lyme's disease recently.
joe rogan
Yeah, everything.
unidentified
Quite a few things, yeah.
joe rogan
Quite a few things.
They have no idea.
They think it's in his brain.
Whatever it is.
And he's been on heavy, heavy, heavy antibiotics.
And of course, one of the things that comes with heavy antibiotics, particularly something called Cipro, is you don't just get sick from that.
You also get your ligaments become very, very lax and they get weak.
And a lot of people that come off antibiotics for a long period of time...
They are subject to injuries.
Like athletes, when they get staph infection, they put you on this heavy dose of antibiotics, but all your ligaments get weak, and they end up tearing your ACL. Both of his shoulders are torn, and he thinks it's probably a connection to the antibiotics.
greg fitzsimmons
Huh.
joe rogan
That he had to take to deal with the staff, or to deal with whatever the fuck this infection is, that he's got some very, very strange parasite.
He goes so deep in the Congo, it might be an unidentified parasite, and that's part of the problem, is that he's basically like a fucking lab rat right now.
And he's got malaria three different times.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
unidentified
Not once.
Not twice.
Three times.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking malaria.
Three times.
greg fitzsimmons
He didn't take the anti-malarial stuff?
It still got it.
joe rogan
Well, one of the things, he got it, and then he said the anti-malaria shit is so bad, and it's so rough on you, that some people would prefer to get malaria and get it treated.
And what was the stuff that he said that you get, there's a toxic sickness that he got from Maladorn, what the fuck was it called?
I was trying to think of that word for like two minutes.
Melodium?
There's a type of anti-malaria medication that they give to, particularly to soldiers.
And they find that these guys, it's fucking incredibly toxic.
And they found it in his brain.
They found that he's suffering from poisoning from this anti-malaria medication.
And he was on like really high doses of this shit too.
greg fitzsimmons
If you live somewhere like that, you're supposed to be taking it all the time.
Constantly.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
greg fitzsimmons
You know, when they built the...
Melodium?
joe rogan
What the fuck?
greg fitzsimmons
The Panama Canal.
They went down there.
The French tried to dig it for, like, 50 fucking years.
And they were dropping, like, flies from the malaria.
They didn't know it was from malaria.
They had no idea what was going on.
They just knew people were getting sick while they were trying to...
I mean, the scope of that project at that time was insane.
I mean, they were hand-digging a fucking canal from...
I mean, through, like, thick jungle.
joe rogan
In the middle of the country.
greg fitzsimmons
In the middle of the country.
And they were just, people were getting sick, and then they would, and eventually France, after 50 years, said, fuck it.
And then they just left.
And then for some reason, we bought it, and we're like, we can do it.
So we went down there.
joe rogan
Meth-lo-queen.
Meth-lo-queen?
That sounds like a queef.
She meth-lo-queened.
unidentified
So we show up, and they realize one guy...
joe rogan
Spell it out.
Put it up there again so we could...
greg fitzsimmons
A mellow-queen.
joe rogan
Meth-lo-queen.
Sold under the brand names Larium.
That's what I've heard.
I've heard medication to prevent or treat malaria.
It's used to start a potential exposure...
And continue for several weeks after potential exposure, and then people get sick off of that stuff.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that it?
That's definitely it?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
It seems wrong.
Like, the name seems wrong, doesn't it?
unidentified
That's what I looked up.
joe rogan
I know, but does it seem right to you?
It seems wrong to me.
I don't know.
unidentified
I'm sure it's right, but it just...
greg fitzsimmons
So we go in and some genius goes, it's the fucking mosquitoes.
We're getting an infection from the mosquitoes.
So they've simply got rid of standing water.
They just started finding, they had teams of people every day would go out and they'd find puddles and they would get rid of the puddles.
And they went from going like, I'm telling you, one out of three people was dying trying to dig this tunnel.
And they went to almost nobody dying.
joe rogan
Do you know malaria has killed some insane number of people?
We looked it up once.
I think the rumor is that it's killed half the people who have ever died.
Ever.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Have been killed by malaria.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was what I had heard.
I think it's less than that that they can definitely determine was killed by malaria.
But nevertheless, it's a staggering number of humans.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Those little dirty mosquitoes.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I think we can get rid of them, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're trying to do that.
They're trying to genetically engineer mosquitoes that don't carry malaria.
And then they're also thinking that, you know, and this is really dangerous, really dangerous, that they could just get rid of mosquitoes, period.
But the problem with that is, man, you don't know how all that shit's connected.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
What happens if you get rid of mosquitoes?
Do beetles take over?
Do beetles start carrying diseases?
They start biting people?
Like, what morphs?
Like, a mosquito wasn't always a mosquito.
This must be understood, right?
A mosquito, at one point in time, was a single-celled organism, just like us.
And then it became a mosquito and found a really good niche.
It's like, this fucking mosquito business is the shit, right?
It's like fast food.
You can't go wrong.
Mosquito business is awesome.
greg fitzsimmons
Sure.
joe rogan
They fucking go crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, all they need is a little bit of water and any living thing that they can take a little fucking drop of blood from.
joe rogan
Did you ever go to my, when I rented a house in Encino, did you ever go to that place?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I think it was before you moved out here.
When I first moved out here, I rented this house in Encino and nobody had lived in it for a couple of years.
And the fucking pool had not been taken care of.
So the pool was green, like the Hulk's dick, okay?
And I looked in the pool, and little things were swimming, like schools of fish.
And I was like, what the fuck is this?
And the pool guy goes, oh, bro, that's mosquito larva.
I was like, what?
And he goes, yeah.
He goes, we got to kill this now before you literally infect the entire neighborhood with mosquitoes.
Like, there was fish.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Like, swimming.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Dude, like, filled with mosquito.
Have you ever seen mosquito larvae in a pool?
It was so disturbing.
I was like, I gotta get a hotel.
He's like, no, no, we can kill it, we can kill it.
But they had to pour, like, fuck, they drained the entire pool and poured gallons and gallons of poison in there.
They just filled, and I couldn't swim in it for, like, six months or something.
I don't remember what it was.
But it was so nasty.
You could see these little fuckers swimming.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, schools of fish.
greg fitzsimmons
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Like, little schools.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Swimming around there.
Wow.
Yeah.
Standing water.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, standing water, man.
That's all it takes.
That's why you gotta have a fountain.
You have little fucking bubbles running through it.
joe rogan
We are so, so lucky when it comes to bugs out here, though.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
We got no bugs.
greg fitzsimmons
No bugs.
Well, we got termites.
That's the only thing.
They're fucking insidious.
unidentified
Yeah, they're gross.
greg fitzsimmons
We built a fence around our house.
It took like six weeks, they put it in, and six months later, there's fucking little, you ever see shavings from that powder on the bottom?
I'm like, you motherfuckers brought termite-infested wood to my house, and now it's in my house also.
joe rogan
The wood had termites in it?
Can you sue?
greg fitzsimmons
Probably.
I'm not really a sewer.
joe rogan
What are you?
You plot revenge?
greg fitzsimmons
Just a guy who gets sad when things happen.
joe rogan
Silent revenge.
Don't say that.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm Irish.
joe rogan
Silent revenge.
unidentified
Yeah.
Revenga.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm an arsonist.
I find the next project he's going to do.
joe rogan
Take it down.
So they brought wood that had termites in it?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, the wood had fucking termites in it immediately.
joe rogan
Did you contact the contractor?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't even remember.
This was like 15 years ago.
joe rogan
Whatever.
Is the fence still there?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, but it's like I tried to screw something into it the other day and it wouldn't hold the fucking screw.
It was like powder underneath.
The whole thing needs to be ripped down.
joe rogan
You could run through that fence like the Hulk.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
We're not keeping anybody out.
greg fitzsimmons
The high C guy and the Hulk meeting at my house.
joe rogan
The Kool-Aid guy, right?
Hey, Kool-Aid.
Remember that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever happened to the Kool-Aid guy?
They just stopped that campaign.
greg fitzsimmons
That was a huge campaign.
joe rogan
Yeah, he ran through the fucking house everywhere.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Kids were sitting there, boy, I'm thirsty.
Boom!
unidentified
A fucking giant pitcher.
greg fitzsimmons
Kool-Aid guy shows up.
Yeah.
joe rogan
A pitcher with a face on it.
Runs right through your house.
greg fitzsimmons
You kids want a fucking bucket of sugar with some water in it?
joe rogan
Boy, was that delicious, though.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I had some Kool-Aid a couple years ago.
I ate at this place in...
What's that shitty town in California?
Fresno.
There's a place called...
God damn it.
I follow them on Instagram.
It's a soul food place in Fresno.
Trying to remember.
Paul's Kitchen.
Is that it?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Chef Paul's.
unidentified
Chef Paul's Cafe.
Dude.
joe rogan
You know, sometimes you're in the road, you find a place that's just fucking off the charts good.
If you're in Fresno, ladies and gentlemen, Chef Paul's Cafe, I fucking give it two thumbs up.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Five stars.
Full on soul food, like fucking collard greens, oxtails, like...
Phenomenal food.
And they also had Kool-Aid.
I was like, okay, well obviously I'm going all in.
I gotta get the Kool-Aid too.
I hadn't had Kool-Aid in probably a decade.
greg fitzsimmons
Is that a soul food thing?
Kool-Aid?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It was their menu thing.
They had a bunch of crazy shit on the menu.
That's it right there.
It's a great restaurant in a sketchy town.
Fresno's sketchy as fuck.
We were driving down the street.
There's homeless communities.
Skid Row style.
Look at that food, dude.
Seriously.
Chicken and waffles.
Oh my god.
Their food is so good.
Their fried chicken's off the charts.
But the oxtail.
I had oxtail.
There's chicken and waffles.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that looks good.
joe rogan
It's so good, man.
That place is amazing.
And it's just super, super authentic, like, down-home, like, real hearty comfort food.
There's that Kool-Aid right there, baby.
Kool-Aid on the menu.
I mean, why not, man?
Just get all the flavors when you're at a place like that.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Don't drink water, you asshole.
Get all the flavors.
Get yourself some Kool-Aid, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Get yourself some Kool-Aid, too.
Well, that's what Red Bull is, isn't it?
It's just Kool-Aid.
joe rogan
Red Bull has taurine in it, and taurine is actually originally from bullcum.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
Taurine is a stimulant that's derived from bulges, and Hitler used to actually take bullcum.
I think I found that out from Tom Papa.
Is that who told me?
Someone told me that.
And we Googled it.
I was like, what?
Like, they figured out a way to synthesize it, but taurine is one of the actual ingredients in bulges.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
So people used to take bulges as some sort of a stimulant, I guess?
Here it is.
Heil Hitler!
Oh, hi Hitler.
Medical records show Führer Adolf was a cocaine addict and was injected with bullsemen to help his sex life.
He also took steroids.
He took a lot of testosterone.
He suffered from flatulence, known to break wind during meals with his generals.
Oh, they all ratted him out.
greg fitzsimmons
I wonder if you say to a guy who's killing millions of Jews, that was offensive.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
That smell was offensive.
joe rogan
Your farts are worse than what you've done to the Jews.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
You gassed them.
You're gassing us now.
joe rogan
Well, he was a vegetarian, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Was he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you eat a lot of vegetables, like broccoli farts, they're famous.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because your body's breaking down all that fiber.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I think it has something to do also with the vegetables are breaking down faster than the meat.
If you eat meat and vegetables, and they get caught in your intestine, that's where you get pockets of gas.
The meat's blocking it up.
joe rogan
Fermenting.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Steaming up, creating gas.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, I've been farting phenomenally.
I enjoy farting.
joe rogan
Do you?
greg fitzsimmons
And my wife laughs at it.
Thank God.
We wouldn't still be together.
unidentified
You fart in front of her?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You don't even let her know it's coming?
greg fitzsimmons
No, I will walk in the room with a fart because she laughs at me.
I don't know what it is.
She thinks it's funny every fucking time I fart.
joe rogan
She's a good guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, she is.
And she farts.
She wishes she could fart as much as I do, but when she does, she lets me know.
Our family does.
joe rogan
The whole family farts?
greg fitzsimmons
Son farts at the dinner table.
We all laugh.
Yeah.
We're very open about it.
joe rogan
But do you think that that's going to carry on to his next relationship?
greg fitzsimmons
I hope so.
joe rogan
I hope so too, but it's hard to find a gal that's down with that.
greg fitzsimmons
I think you've got to make him down with it.
You ease him in.
You start with a little one, and then gently you just, you know...
If they smell, you take it in the other room.
But if it's just a...
And you know your cycle.
You usually know what's in the tank based on the previous ones.
joe rogan
Sometimes you don't.
Sometimes you think you're floating an air biscuit and you let out a bomb.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Whenever I'm getting on a plane, I try to get a few out before I get on the plane when I'm on that ramp.
joe rogan
You know what's weird?
This is really strange.
I mean, really strange.
And not a lot of people are aware of this.
When you are around certain smells, like...
If you're, like, say if you're butchering an animal, okay?
Say if you shot an animal in the field, and you're hunting, and you cut it up, and you...
The smells that come from that animal will be in your farts, even if you don't eat it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's weird.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
It's weird.
And...
I had recognized this, but I was confused by it.
And then it was brought up to me by friends that are hunting guides in Alberta.
My friends John and Jen, the Rivets, they've got this guide service.
And one of the things they hunt is bears.
And bear is delicious, but you have to cook it right because you can get trichinosis.
It's like pork.
Same kind of deal.
But they smell.
Their guts and when you're butchering them, a lot of times people use what's called the gutless method.
It means you take all the meat out without opening up the gut cavity.
because if you do get that stuff on you like it's but specifically if they've been eating something that's rotten the smells horrible that smell comes out in your farts and one of their daughters canceled school she she stayed home because she was farting so bad she was like I can't go to school farting like this yeah I will be a pariah But I've smelt it before.
greg fitzsimmons
Someone's like, did you have bear?
joe rogan
Yeah, like if I've shot a deer in the field, and it's called quartering it, you gut it, you take out the heart and the liver, you eat the heart and the liver, you quarter it, you take the limbs off, you take the legs off, and you take the meat off the back, it's called the back straps, and the tenderloins, you take all that stuff off, and then when you fart, you fucking smell that animal in your farts.
Wow.
This was addressed, actually, by my friend Steve Rinella on the show Meat Eater.
They were trying to figure out why.
They're like, okay, this is a real thing, right?
Everybody talks about this.
How is it getting in you?
You're smelling it, and then somehow or another, those molecules come out.
You go all the way through your body from you smelling it and breathing in that air, and it comes out in your farts, and you smell this horrific gut smell.
greg fitzsimmons
Sounds like a good game show.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You know, you go into a room and you come out and the contestants have to guess what animal you just courted.
unidentified
Wham!
joe rogan
I wonder if that's the case with...
I mean, it must be the case with fish, too.
Like, you catch a bunch of fish, you gut them, and then you probably smell fish farts when you're farting.
You probably smell like fish.
But the weird thing is, it would make sense if you were eating it, right?
If you cooked it and ate it, that would make sense.
But this is...
I'm telling you, this is farting when you've had none of it yet.
You haven't eaten any of it.
But you fart.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you smell it.
greg fitzsimmons
I think I fart...
I think you fart from getting nervous also.
Like, if you're a nervous person, I think you fart a lot.
joe rogan
That makes sense, right?
Your gut starts building all the juices and stuff.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Farts can fight strokes, heart attacks, and dementia, scientists claim.
That's fantastic!
That girl.
She farts in your face.
You don't get a heart attack.
greg fitzsimmons
They always get a hot chick in the picture.
joe rogan
A study has proven that farts can help your cells to live.
What?
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
Sulfur...
What is it?
joe rogan
Hydrogen sulfide is well known as a pungent, foul-smelling gas in rotten eggs and flatulence.
It is naturally produced in the body and could, in fact, be a healthcare hero with significant implications for future therapies for a variety of diseases.
Can you imagine if all those weirdos that pay women to fart in their face if they're onto something?
unidentified
Yeah, right.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Those women are heroes.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those are the most confusing porn videos.
greg fitzsimmons
I've never seen that.
joe rogan
Where guys are like laying there and girls are like, you want to fart, you dirty bitch?
And they fart in their face.
Yeah, mommy.
Give me that fart, mommy.
And they fart in their face.
Oh, it's so fucking, it's so confusing.
It makes me shut my laptop and walk around the block.
greg fitzsimmons
That's fucking great.
joe rogan
I've seen a bunch of those.
You've never seen one of those?
greg fitzsimmons
No, I've never seen it.
I'm just trying to figure out who the first guy was that had the balls to just go, like smelling a fart and going, I think this is it.
I think this is my, you know, for some people it's feet, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, right.
Some people it's farts.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a thing with guys.
greg fitzsimmons
Farting in the face.
joe rogan
Some people like a lot of weird shit.
I had this girl on the podcast back in the day.
It actually made me sad talking to her.
Her name was Sierra Lynch.
Remember her?
I was like, what?
She's selling her piss.
She sells toenail clippings, dirty socks, dirty underwear, all these guys.
And then she humiliates these guys.
They want her to humiliate them.
I believe she refers to her.
She's a very smart girl.
Very pretty, too.
She refers to herself as a humiliatrix.
It's her business.
She bought a fucking house.
She's wealthy because of getting these guys to buy her shit and piss.
Very strange.
greg fitzsimmons
I think I got a new nickname for my wife.
Humiliatrix.
But I met this prostitute in Lake Tahoe.
She had come to my show and she was like, you know, in Nevada, it's all legal.
And so I go, what's the weirdest client that you ever had?
And she goes, well, I don't know if you're ready for this, but I met this guy, and he lived in Colorado, and he had been in Nevada.
Liked her.
She said she's up for anything.
Sends a jet to take her to Colorado.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
greg fitzsimmons
They go to Denver to some five-star hotel.
Come up to the suite, presidential suite.
They come in.
She's like, I have no idea what this is about.
And he goes, now, this is going to be weird, but it's not going to hurt you.
Just go with it.
joe rogan
I think I know where this is going.
greg fitzsimmons
Room service shows up.
Guy's got a tray.
He's got four plates of hamburger meat, uncooked, just hamburger meat.
Tips the guy, leaves, and he says, What I want you to do is take this meat.
I'm going to get naked, and you're going to take handfuls of it and shove it up my ass.
joe rogan
I didn't think it was going there.
greg fitzsimmons
Five pounds of hamburger meat.
And he just stood there and she kept stuffing it up, stuffing it up.
No erection, no sex, no touching her.
And then back on the jet, back to Nevada.
joe rogan
So he's a wealthy guy.
greg fitzsimmons
He paid her a ton of money.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
I'm surprised, but I'm not surprised.
Like if you said, would you bet your life?
That there's a guy out there that sent a private jet to get a prostitute and take her to a nice restaurant and then paid her to stuff hamburger meat up his ass.
If you're wrong, you die.
I go, yeah, it probably happened.
greg fitzsimmons
Right?
Right, a million monkeys typing, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I'm not...
I'm surprised, but I'm not stunned.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I'm not like, no way, I don't believe that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I believe it.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, and the funny thing is, like, I don't get the sense this guy is on a chat room talking to other guys that stuff ground beef up their asses.
This is his thing.
joe rogan
Right.
That's a personal thing.
greg fitzsimmons
He's got so much fucking money that his mind just goes to places, and he can indulge it.
He can just go, yeah, he'll try that.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
greg fitzsimmons
And talk about getting diseases.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Well, there's just an outbreak of, um, is it salmonella?
Yeah, from ground beef.
I think someone died.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One person died.
A few other people have been, uh, they've been recalled.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get salmonella anally.
For sure.
It's raw.
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta tell your doctor.
joe rogan
Fucking A. What happened?
Well, have a seat.
Let's start from the beginning.
When I was a boy...
First time, started getting hard-ons.
I sat on a cheeseburger.
Do you think these guys, if I shove solid food up my butt, would I gain any nutrition from it?
First of all, here's the thing.
He's answered by Andrew Lee, doctor of acupuncture.
Hey, fuckface, you didn't go to medical school.
Stop calling yourself a doctor.
Doctor of acupuncture is so weird.
It's like, I'm a doctor of comedy.
You know what I mean?
You practice acupuncture.
You're not a doctor.
They don't go to medical school.
Did you know that?
greg fitzsimmons
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Doctors are doctors.
A doctor goes to a medical school.
It's hard.
You have to study.
You have to do your residency.
You have to get your fucking degree at a medical school.
Not chiropractors.
They call themselves doctors.
But they don't go to medical school at all.
At all!
greg fitzsimmons
And they can fuck you up.
They do those cracks on your neck.
joe rogan
Pull that up so we can read that.
So...
Answer is, things can be absorbed through the membrane.
Through membrane...
What?
See, this is how...
unidentified
It's not the answer.
jamie vernon
I was just showing you that people have asked this.
joe rogan
No, I'm saying, but listen to the way he writes the answer.
This is how a chiropractor writes it versus a real doctor.
Things that can be absorbed through membrane will bypass the liver when taken through the anus.
Through membrane will bypass the liver.
Through a membrane...
Okay.
For example, various drugs can be taken as through the anus in order to be easier on the liver.
This is how chiropractors write.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
See?
See how he's writing?
This is not a guy who went to medical school.
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
As the liver no longer needs to filter the drug, which makes the drug half as potent and is also hard on the liver.
greg fitzsimmons
This guy's Asian.
joe rogan
How do you know that?
greg fitzsimmons
What's his name?
joe rogan
Andrew Lee.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
How I did not know his name when I said he's Asian.
I could tell by the way he was writing.
joe rogan
Alcohol can cross the cell membrane and thus absorbs very easily into the human body.
Oh, how about this?
My friend, his wife is a school teacher in Utah and they have a problem in middle school because kids are taking tampons and they're soaking them and rubbing alcohol and stuffing them up their assholes.
And they're getting high.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
One kid found out about it, and a bunch of other kids did it, and so they had a problem in their fucking school.
Where kids were putting tampons, dipping them in rubbing alcohol, and stuffing them up their butt.
Shout out to my friend Huey.
greg fitzsimmons
And by the way, I don't know how many millions of listeners you have.
How many people are now going to do that?
joe rogan
A lot.
greg fitzsimmons
40. 40?
joe rogan
40 people.
greg fitzsimmons
About 40?
unidentified
It's been going on for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, apparently.
I didn't know about it until three weeks ago.
greg fitzsimmons
I bet it feels good.
Nice and cool.
joe rogan
Define feels good.
greg fitzsimmons
Tingle a little bit.
joe rogan
What if you got a hemorrhoid, though?
Yikes!
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
I'm sure people like that.
I'm sure there's people that cut themselves and pour alcohol on it just to feel a sting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm a piece of shit!
Cut!
greg fitzsimmons
The definition of a drunk asshole. Don't be a drunk asshole.
joe rogan
Especially when you're 12. Fucking middle school!
greg fitzsimmons
They're fucking Mormons, probably, so they're so desperate.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's a good point.
Maybe.
Yeah, we're talking Utah.
greg fitzsimmons
Remember Kitty Dukakis?
She was sober.
joe rogan
She was drinking aftershave, right?
Was it?
greg fitzsimmons
Aftershave, isopropyl.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That sunk his...
Well, he kind of was on the way out anyway.
greg fitzsimmons
It was that and when he sat on a tank with a helmet on.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was...
And people are like, what?
Are you a soldier?
Are you in war?
Why do you have a helmet?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're not even at war, you piece of shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
joe rogan
Mike Dukakis.
Remember him?
greg fitzsimmons
He was like...
Who did he run against?
joe rogan
I want to say Bush Sr. Was it?
greg fitzsimmons
Bush Sr. Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I think that was a landslide.
joe rogan
Yeah, people weren't down with that.
It's interesting how some things sink some people.
Like, that Howard Dover guy has got to be so fucking confused that Donald Trump got away with that grab-em-by-the-pussy thing when all he did was scream.
Remember that guy?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Dean.
greg fitzsimmons
We're going to Arkansas!
Then we're going to Detroit!
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
There he is.
greg fitzsimmons
I know!
It sunk him!
joe rogan
Sunk him.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
Look, he had his helmet with a fucking sticker on it.
That probably sunk him, too.
Why did you say, oh, Mike Dukakis on your helmet, bro?
Are you going to go fight for our country?
Get out of here, son.
Look at him now.
See the picture of him now?
Hammered.
Look at him.
He's probably like, how's the president?
Go to the one picture above that with the red face.
Look at that.
How's the fucking president?
That guy is like, if we did a gig for Dick Daugherty in New Hampshire, if you would...
That guy would be at the bar.
Hey, you fucking guys, it was funny, but you know what?
I was almost president.
I was almost president, my wife.
unidentified
My fucking wife, she's drinking rubbing alcohol on this aftershave.
And that aftershave, fucking, this is aqua velva.
joe rogan
My fucking wife's drinking aqua velva.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck, it sunk me.
Bitch sunk me.
joe rogan
You look thick head of hair, though.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Oof.
greg fitzsimmons
Was he the governor?
joe rogan
I believe he was.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he was the governor.
joe rogan
I believe he was the governor of Massachusetts.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Who's the governor of Massachusetts now?
greg fitzsimmons
Weld?
joe rogan
Is it Weld?
greg fitzsimmons
Bill Weld?
joe rogan
He's a Republican, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's unusual, right?
We've had a couple of Massachusetts Republicans, like Fuckface, the Mormon.
What's his name?
greg fitzsimmons
Romney?
joe rogan
Yeah, Mitt Romney.
Fuckface.
Charlie Baker, Republican.
He's a Republican, too.
That's interesting.
greg fitzsimmons
That is interesting.
Well, you were talking about Texas and Austin, and Massachusetts is a Republican state.
Boston is a Democratic city, but it's such a big part of the state that it's like what Austin is to Texas, and also like Minneapolis to Minnesota.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess so, huh?
Like, where would you think the Republicans are in Massachusetts?
Everywhere outside of Boston?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, I think it's a lot of defense contracts.
There's a lot of defense money there.
joe rogan
Boston Dynamics, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I got tricked.
They tricked me.
greg fitzsimmons
They did?
joe rogan
I posted a video.
It's Boss Town Dynamics.
They wrote B-O-S-S-T-O-N Dynamics.
It was a video of robots shooting guns.
They were kicking the robots and it's hitting these targets perfectly every time.
I'm like, oh my god, we're fucked.
But the thing is, it's not that far removed from what the Boston Dynamics robots already do.
Those fucking robots are already doing backflips.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They do, like, parkour.
They run and jump off things and hang on things.
And then this one was a fake video, though.
Was it CGI, I think?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, those guys, that's what they do on their YouTube channel.
greg fitzsimmons
How do you trust anything anymore?
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Well, we're pretty close to not being able to trust anything anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because with those deep fake generators, where they could take you, like they've already done videos with me, where they have audio of me saying shit that I would say.
Like a bunch of shit that I would say, but I never said it.
About like chimp armies and all those different things.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a whole website dedicated to that.
It's just weird, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's going to get weirder and weirder with the stuff that they can do with your...
You've seen Kyle Dunnigan's fucking page.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, they're crazy.
unidentified
Oh my God.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
And his...
The stuff that he does that's my favorite, that's really, really funny, is the stuff that looks fake.
It's like he does the face swap shit from the Instagram filters or Snapchat or whatever it is.
But he did a bunch of stuff because he was doing a pilot for Comedy Central, and thank God they're too fucking stupid to pick it up because they would have ruined it.
Because he was showing me one that they wouldn't do.
It was Caitlyn Jenner having sex with Trump.
He was showing it to me.
I was crying.
I was in the green room crying.
He goes, yeah, Comedy Central said no to that one.
unidentified
I'm like, what?
joe rogan
I was like, what?
They're like, no, it was too edgy.
They wouldn't get involved in anything trans.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
joe rogan
Like, come on.
greg fitzsimmons
That's why I was shocked that on the roast that she came out and said the shit that she did.
That was like, excuse the pun, but that was ballsy.
joe rogan
What did she say?
I think she still has her balls.
greg fitzsimmons
She said...
joe rogan
She said she still has her dick, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What did she say?
She came out and said...
joe rogan
I love that expression.
She has her dick.
Welcome to 2019. Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
But Dunnigan, I did a show with him on Saturday night and he came out on stage and he put a laptop in front of his face and there was a big screen and he was doing the characters for the crowd that he usually does like as Instagram posts.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I've heard he does that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it was great.
joe rogan
How does he do that?
He just has the video plays?
greg fitzsimmons
I guess the computer is videotaping him and sending it...
I know it ran through the house...
Through something in the house system.
Because it was a fuck-up.
It got fucked up.
joe rogan
Oh.
greg fitzsimmons
But it still worked.
joe rogan
Because he was...
We were doing a gig at the store on a Friday night, and he was supposed to be on right before me, but they were like, actually, let's have Kyle go on after you, because apparently his whole thing needs a big setup.
Confirms gender reassignment study.
What?
She confirms gender reassignment.
Hold on, put that back up.
It says, Caitlyn Jenner confirms gender reassignment surgery in 2020 interview.
Okay, but the problem is, she just did an interview recently, she said she still has it.
What is gender reassignment surgery?
They fucking wave a wand over you, like they knight you?
unidentified
I hereby announce you have a vagina.
joe rogan
I have a vagina?
Yes.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
You now have a vagina.
Okay.
I mean, look.
greg fitzsimmons
And they're tapping you on the head with your penis.
joe rogan
If you're clearly a man and you could just say you're a woman, why can't you say you have a vagina?
We're going to play make-believe.
Let's just play make-believe all the way.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because, look, my friend Zuby, he was a guest on the podcast.
He claimed he was a woman for a day and broke the women's world record in deadlift.
greg fitzsimmons
What did he have to do to qualify as a woman?
joe rogan
You don't have to do anything.
greg fitzsimmons
You just say it.
joe rogan
You can identify as a woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, who are you to say that he didn't identify as a woman, you fucking transphobic piece of shit?
greg fitzsimmons
I know, I feel bad now.
joe rogan
You should.
Jesus Christ, Greg.
All the years we've known each other, I can't believe I didn't know that you had this in you.
greg fitzsimmons
This was my childhood.
joe rogan
I think you're canceled.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm canceled.
I wish I was big enough to get canceled.
I gotta get a little bit more famous.
joe rogan
And then it can happen.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I'm more like me who?
joe rogan
That's a Tony Hinchcliffe joke.
That was such a pun.
Oh, God.
greg fitzsimmons
Now, I think...
joe rogan
Pull up.
I think that Caitlyn Jenner still has his dick.
unidentified
Her dick.
greg fitzsimmons
Was there a fight with a guy that became a woman and then beat the shit out of a woman?
joe rogan
You mean MMA? I don't know if it was boxing or MMA. Yeah, there was an MMA. Yeah, she had a few fights.
The problem was, not that she had the fights...
I would never advise anybody to fight someone who used to be a man.
I would say, ooh, probably got a lot of physical advantages.
That's not going to show up in the weight class.
Just because you're both 135 pounds, there's a fucking difference.
I don't give a shit what anybody says.
There's a reason why this woman world champion cyclist is breaking records.
These women weightlifters who used to be men are breaking records by giant numbers.
I mean, giant numbers in powerlifting.
And all they have to do is just say they used to be a man and now I'm a woman.
This is it.
Oh, she's a woman.
You're a piece of shit if you say anything different.
But this one was fighting.
Her name's Fallon Fox.
And she was fighting as a woman, even though she'd been a man for 30 plus years.
And in fact, even had kids at A Kid.
And then just transitioned.
Became a woman.
Didn't tell anybody.
Said it was a medical issue.
It's none of your business.
And then beat the fuck out of two women.
And like beat them like domestic violence.
Like you watch it.
You're like, what?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Then she came out and then it was like this big hubbub.
I got caught up in it because I said it was nonsense.
I said it was worse than nonsense.
I was like, it's bullshit.
It's 100% bullshit.
And I've never, never been attacked harder.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I shouldn't have brought it up.
I didn't realize.
joe rogan
No, I don't care.
It's fine.
Look, that's a hill I'll die on.
That's a hill I'll die on.
You guys are out of your fucking mind.
I think you're out of your mind with track and field.
I think you're out of your mind with weightlifting.
You're out of your mind with all those things.
But if it comes to fighting, fuck you.
Fuck you.
You think a man and a woman are the same thing, you are out of your goddamn mind if you think all you have to do is get a little bit of surgery, take some hormones, and you're a woman now, and you should be able to fight women.
Imagine if that's your daughter, and your daughter is getting pummeled by someone who used to be a man.
unidentified
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
It's crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it's unfair to the female athletes, you know?
joe rogan
It's women.
Real women.
Real women are getting fucked over.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, real women are training their whole fucking lives, you know, what they're sacrificing to be the best woman out there, and then to compete against somebody who's got testosterone that just puts them at a whole different level physically.
joe rogan
Well, here's the deal.
greg fitzsimmons
I know it lowers the testosterone, but it's still there.
joe rogan
No, it lowers it significantly.
But the gains that they've had through growing up through puberty with testosterone and being an XY chromosome, having the bone structure of a man, those are undeniable.
And they're undeniable by the world records that these trans women are winning.
They're beating men, I mean, they're beating women, biological women, by giant numbers.
Someone sent me this.
The states that allow people in college and in high school to compete as the gender that they identify with.
greg fitzsimmons
Without surgery or drugs.
joe rogan
You don't even have to.
You don't even have to have surgery in a lot of these places.
They are dominating.
Dominating.
It's dominant.
Trans people.
Trans people are winning these things.
Always, always male to female.
Never.
Female to male.
Female to male aren't...
It's not like no chicks are saying, I identify as a man, let me get in the NBA, and fucking post it up at 40 against LeBron.
It's not happening.
It doesn't go down that way.
What goes down is men who want to be a woman, become a woman, and then want to compete against biological women.
And in every single case, the biological women are getting fucked over.
Because if a woman...
Say if a woman was 30 years old and she decided at 30 years old she was going to start taking hormones and become a man and compete against men.
She'd be fucked.
But if a man does that, he's got the benefit of having testosterone in his system for 30 years and then transitioning and becomes a woman.
And there's...
There's no denying there's a gigantic advantage.
If a woman was going to compete, like say if she's going to compete in track and field, and she's 30 years old, but for all of her life, she's been taking steroids.
Her whole life, she's been taking just steroids.
unidentified
Get a man jaw and a thick neck and fucking shoulders.
joe rogan
And then she gets off of it.
Just gets off of it for a couple years.
And competes against women.
Just throwing them around and ragdolling them.
People will be like, she's a cheater!
She cheated!
She took steroids for 30 years!
Just because she's not taking them now doesn't mean she's not a cheater.
Well, that's what's happening.
But it's worse.
Because of the bone structure.
And because it's a natural testosterone.
You're fucking puberty.
You're going through puberty with testosterone.
It's crazy.
It's fucking crazy.
And it's almost even crazier if you didn't go through puberty.
So how about if you're a trans person and someone decided when you're five or six years old that you're trans?
And so now someone's transitioning you before.
Somebody had a great joke about that.
You don't let a five-year-old pick their outfit.
Why would you let them pick their gender?
You can't let a kid say what they are and what they aren't.
A giant part of what a kid is is you're so easily influenced by your environment.
So easily influenced.
It's so easy to convince a kid one way or the other.
And you don't know what's happening in their home.
And you're asking this child to make a decision about their biology.
greg fitzsimmons
You're talking about in terms of starting to take drugs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, the idea of doing that to a little kid, to me, is fucking bananas.
It doesn't make any sense.
We're in this weird fantasy world right now where people want to be so progressive and they want to be so open-minded and they don't want to be transphobic.
So we're letting people say and do absolutely preposterous things that don't have any logic, that don't make any sense in terms of what we know about biology.
It doesn't make any sense.
And particularly when it comes to sports.
Particularly.
When it comes to your life, you're a grown adult.
I don't care.
I'm happy for you.
If you live better as a woman, you feel better as a woman, you're a woman to me.
Congratulations.
I don't care.
But you're competing against men.
You can go fuck, or competing as women, rather.
You can go fuck yourself.
You're not a woman in the sense of you don't have double X chromosome.
You didn't grow up as a woman.
You're not a biological woman.
If you want to be treated as a woman, that's fine.
But you can't just decide you're a woman and now you're going to break world records in fucking deadlifts and you're going to run faster than any woman that's ever lived.
You're going to beat them in bike races.
You're going to break world records as a trans woman.
You're crazy.
What happens to all these regular women that didn't get the advantage of growing up through puberty with testosterone?
They're getting fucked over.
That's the reason why we have men and women's divisions in the first place.
And there's this weird cop-out that, well, there's always, it's not fair in some sports because there's LeBron James.
I hate to use LeBron again.
You know, there's Mike Tyson.
There's these outliers who are these freak physical specimens.
Yeah.
Yeah, there are.
But they're men versus men.
There's freak physical specimens in men.
But when you go so far, so far over that, when you take a biological male and they're just breaking world records as a woman, You gotta go, come on.
We're entering into this complete nonsense area.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is just progressive thinking, this ideology taking to the extreme.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah, and I mean, I don't know what the answer is because the women, if they do start taking testosterone, then they obviously can't compete against women legally any longer.
joe rogan
No.
greg fitzsimmons
So they're sort of in limbo.
I don't know if there needs to be a third category of athletics.
joe rogan
The trans category, that's the perfect answer.
I don't think even if the women take steroids, if it would be fair.
I don't even know if that would be fair because they're still not going through puberty.
First of all, there's not a lot of data on this.
There's not a lot of data in terms of years and years of competition where they've studied athletes that have been trans versus athletes that have been biologically female versus athletes that are biologically male.
There's a lot of studying on this.
This is people going with the current thinking and the current progressive ideology where they don't want to be criticized.
They don't want to be called transphobic.
They don't want to have articles written about them or people call them terrible names and talk shit about them.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's such a small percentage of the population, and it's become an issue that is being identified for political reasons.
You know, it's something that is, like, my kid is at college now, and like, every class, you have to say your name, what gender you identify as, and what pronoun you want to be referred to as.
Do you know how many fucking people this is affecting?
Is there five in the school?
joe rogan
If that...
If that.
I believe the current number of people that are trans in this country is somewhere around 1%.
Is that what the number is?
Do we even know?
Let's find out.
I'm fine with all of it up until it comes to sports.
If you want to identify with they, them, you want to be a they person, I might fuck up occasionally because it's odd.
I might make mistakes.
If you want to be called Caitlyn, okay.
Hi, Caitlyn.
I don't care.
I don't care.
But with sports, you can fuck all the way off.
0.6%.
Okay.
That's hilarious.
It's not even one.
Basically half of a percent.
unidentified
Okay.
greg fitzsimmons
And Elizabeth Warren, she's getting shit because she was supporting trans prisoners having the right to have corrective surgery in jail.
And of course people had a field day with like the amount of money that that would cost.
And it's like, she should just say pass.
What's your opinion on that, Elizabeth?
Let me talk about the economy.
Let me talk about health care.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not a good one.
But that's one that I guarantee if you sat down and talked to her about it.
This is an ideologically based opinion.
She's probably looked at her demographic, which is progressive, left-wing.
She's a woman.
She's running for president.
And a big part of her being candidate is the fact that we would like to have a woman president, particularly people on the left.
They fucked up with Hillary Clinton.
It didn't go well.
Maybe Elizabeth Warren's our gal.
She seems to talk well.
She's strong.
greg fitzsimmons
Experienced.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe she's the one.
Maybe she's the one.
Well, she's got to support that because you want the whole Democratic Party.
Otherwise, someone will fucking snatch up those people in an independent category, a green category.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, fuck it, I'm voting for Jill Stein because she's a piece of shit, or Elizabeth Warren's a piece of shit, and she doesn't address trans rights.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
There was a lot of third-party voters in the last election.
They swung the election.
joe rogan
I was one of them.
greg fitzsimmons
Jill Stein?
joe rogan
Gary Johnson.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
He did my podcast.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, so I said, I'll vote for you.
greg fitzsimmons
What was his deal?
joe rogan
Well, he didn't know anything about it.
He was sunk because he didn't know where Aleppo was.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I remember that guy.
joe rogan
That sunk him.
People were considering him fairly seriously.
Maybe I'm serious about Gary Johnson.
He seems fairly reasonable.
We could use a reasonable guy.
And they asked him, what do you think we do about Aleppo?
He's like, what?
The fuck's Aleppo?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
It's a city where a lot of bad shit's happening right now, brother.
greg fitzsimmons
But did Trump know where Aleppo was?
joe rogan
He doesn't have to.
He doesn't have to.
They could say, what are you going to do about Aleppo?
He'd probably go, where's Aleppo?
Syria.
Oh, well, that place is a mess.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
We're done with that.
I think we're done with that.
I think we canceled them.
joe rogan
So Aleppo's in Syria, right?
Is that where it is?
I think that's what it is.
Yeah.
It was almost like a trick question.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because who the fuck...
Yeah, he didn't know, but who does?
Who did?
Like, out of all the people who are like, this fucking idiot doesn't even know where Aleppo is?
I didn't know where Aleppo is.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I didn't either.
joe rogan
I didn't know the question either.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Obviously, I'm not running for president.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, we're kind of hoping that that person knows the shit we don't know.
joe rogan
Or they tell him when he gets in there.
greg fitzsimmons
But that's the scary thing about Trump is that other leaders will have advisors around them that they trust that tell them stuff.
But Trump doesn't seem to read the...
joe rogan
He's not interested in that.
greg fitzsimmons
He's not interested in that.
joe rogan
No.
They booed the fuck out of him at the UFC. Oh, were you there?
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, because I heard from one camp that they cheered and from another camp that they...
His son said they cheered for him.
joe rogan
Listen to Daddy.
I took my fucking headphones off just to listen.
And it was...
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
18,000 people going...
greg fitzsimmons
His son said they were chanting USA. Maybe four people behind him were chanting USA. The rest were saying boo-SA. Is that what Donald Jr. said?
Yes, Donald Jr. was very upset.
joe rogan
You'd probably say that too.
Look, they booed the fuck out of him.
I'm sure some people clapped.
I'm sure.
But if you had to bet your money on it, what was the greater percentage?
Was it boos or claps?
It was fucking boos.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, I took my headphones off.
I was right there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I could have hit him with a rock.
He was right over there.
unidentified
Yeah.
Boo!
Wow.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm surprised he showed up after what happened at the World Series.
The same fucking thing happened a week before.
But maybe he figured because it was DC, it was because it's so liberal in DC. He probably figured because it was at the fights.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was at cage fights.
Also, he's friends with Dana White.
They're good friends, apparently.
There's a picture on Dana's Instagram of him and Donald sitting in front of the television watching fights.
They're watching the prelims before he went out.
Dana watches some of the card in his green room.
He listens to the commentary and wants to see.
Because there's a lot of moving pieces involved in being the president of the United States and also the president of the UFC. A lot of moving pieces.
You don't have a lot of time to sit through the entire pay-per-view while you're there.
So Dana sits in the back and he watches a lot of the pay-per-view card on the screen in his office or in his green room.
So he was back there with Donald sitting on the couch and he put it on his Instagram just watching some fights.
It's just him and Trump sitting there.
greg fitzsimmons
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
I was watching my friend Corey Anderson.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
Knock out Johnny Walker.
So look at that, watching fights.
Like, what?
greg fitzsimmons
You think Dana White's been to Fuck Island?
joe rogan
Look at this kid, Khabib.
Ask him, where did my father's visa send location?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, his father can't get a visa.
Yeah, ask Donald, bro.
Come on.
Good for Khabib.
greg fitzsimmons
Khabib got 46,000 likes on that.
joe rogan
Walking to Madison Square Garden last night with Dana White for the big UFC championship fight was a little bit like walking to a Trump rally.
Plenty of MAGA and KAG present.
What is KAG? Oh.
Mm, okay.
Okay.
Great energy.
Fantastic job, Dana.
Headed to D.C. and then to Kentucky for the big Matt Bevin rally.
Okay.
Well, look.
For sure, some people cheered.
For sure.
For sure.
For sure, some people waved at him.
I saw him wave at people.
Look, some people were psyched to see him.
Look, if I was in the crowd and I was hammered and he was there, I'd be like, what's up, bro?
I'd yell at him.
I'd say hi.
I'd wave at him.
But the reaction, like when he walked in...
It's a lot of boos.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's just fucking gonna happen, man.
He's a controversial character.
greg fitzsimmons
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You know?
Like, anywhere he goes, you're gonna get a lot...
It's fun to boo.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's fun to go, fuck you!
It's fun!
greg fitzsimmons
You're gonna do something when you see somebody...
unidentified
Yes!
greg fitzsimmons
You're either gonna cheer or you're gonna boo.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you got Secret Service all around them.
There was a lot of noise, man.
A lot of noise.
But a lot of it was...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it wasn't like, fuck Trump, fuck Trump.
There was no chant.
This place is where he can't go.
If he went to an LBGT rally, I would guarantee that's a place where he can't go.
Even if he's pro-LBGT with his policy, that's a place where they're going to pretty universally hate him.
Where would you say he can't go?
Where wouldn't it be a good move?
greg fitzsimmons
I think any kind of a woman's movement, like a...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Me Too marches.
joe rogan
Yeah, what if he addressed, like, when they had those women marches, we're all wearing the pussy hats and walking down the street...
greg fitzsimmons
And they have a little speakers.
joe rogan
They set up a stage and he comes out to address them.
greg fitzsimmons
He starts grabbing everybody's hat.
Grabbed another pussy hat.
joe rogan
What would possess someone to want that job?
I mean, look, if you wanted to have the best case scenario answer, it's like, I want to do a good job and make this country great and do better.
But what do you think really is It's ego!
greg fitzsimmons
I was watching Andrew Yang on some morning talk show on Sunday and he's walking down the street with his wife and it's a Sunday.
He's got his fucking kids and I'm like, this is your Sunday?
He's got followers with his name on his...
Imagine like strangers with Fitzsimmons on a placard walking behind you cheering on a Sunday.
I want to be home.
I want to watch a fucking football game, play with my kid, make a meal.
But these people every day, they're working 16-hour days where they're saying the same shit and they're saying we're winning.
They always say we.
No, just say I am.
Be as fucking selfish as you really are.
I'm winning.
More people are liking me than those other people.
joe rogan
It's a bad job.
It's a bad job that no one should have.
It's a job that should be a giant roundtable of geniuses should be deciding the fate of the country.
And they all should be on mushrooms.
They all should be on ego dissolving doses of mushrooms so that none of them are acting in their own self-interest.
They all should have zero financial investments in anything that has anything to do with any decisions that they make.
They should have to give up all their stocks.
They should have to absolutely make sure...
Trump is able to have all his businesses be run by his kids, which is kind of hilarious.
But then he makes decisions that would benefit his businesses that are being run by his kids, and as soon as he's out of office, he jumps back in and takes over again, which is like...
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think is going to happen when they get his taxes?
Because they're pretty close.
greg fitzsimmons
They're pretty close.
It's going to go to the Supreme Court now.
The last court said that he has to turn them over.
And what they're doing is they're going after his accountant instead of him.
That way the accountant will be liable.
As opposed to him personally, because he's never going to do it.
But if you're fucking, you know, Harvey Altman and company...
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to.
greg fitzsimmons
You've got to do it.
You're not going to go to jail for him.
joe rogan
Right.
You saw what happened with Michael Cohen.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Like, you go to jail.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's no pardons.
You're going to jail.
greg fitzsimmons
A bunch of them went to jail.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Quite a few people are in jail.
Manafort.
Jail.
greg fitzsimmons
Manafort.
unidentified
Jail.
joe rogan
Real jail.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
Like, you can't see anybody.
Locked in a cell jail.
greg fitzsimmons
It's not going to matter.
When his taxes come out, it's not going to matter.
None of it matters.
He's got his file.
The only thing this election comes down to is whether or not the left can get people to show up.
Because his 46% or whatever percent are into him, they're fucking there on November 4th next year.
They're showing up.
joe rogan
You know what's crazy?
Chris Rock went on stage right after he won.
And Chris Rock said, you don't know that motherfucker.
He goes, let me tell you something.
He ain't leaving.
He goes, he's going to be the president for a long fucking time.
He ain't going to leave.
And I was thinking, what does that mean?
You have to leave.
If he loses?
Can you imagine if he loses and he doesn't believe he lost?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, he's already said he won't believe it.
He's already said that there's going to be a revolution.
He's laying the groundwork for...
Could be ugly, including the impeachment, which would be even worse than him just not getting elected.
If he was impeached, can you imagine what would happen?
joe rogan
I don't think he's going to get impeached.
greg fitzsimmons
Not impeached.
He's being impeached.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
If he was convicted.
joe rogan
If he's convicted and then removed from office, it would be crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I don't think that's going to happen.
I think someone explained to me.
Was it Kyle Dunnigan?
Explain to me how many people.
What's that?
Kyle Kulinski, sorry Kyle.
Kyle Kulinski, who's my favorite online political commentator.
Very wise guy.
He's a left-wing guy but like...
He calls it like he sees it.
He's very educated and very aware of all the pitfalls that is plaguing the left and the right.
And he said that you would need all these Republicans to vote on it in order for him to actually be impeached.
And they're not going to.
greg fitzsimmons
No.
There's like 22 Republican senators that would have to flip.
And so far they have zero.
joe rogan
They're not going to flip.
greg fitzsimmons
No, of course they're not.
joe rogan
They're more interested in their party.
than they are in anything else.
Yeah.
You have to, the Republicans, they have to stick together.
They, especially in this time where, you know, look, there, I'm not a Republican, but if I was, I would be extremely concerned about censorship in social media, which is a real thing.
Censorship of Republican ideas and conservative ideas is absolutely a real thing.
And is, it's not just real, it's accepted as being the right thing to do by certain organizations.
I mean, they've been caught on camera and hidden camera talking about the ways that you can silence conservative voices.
When you look at social media platforms, They're essentially the best way to get ideas out there.
It's even better than broadcast news.
Because if you put something on Fox or CBS or whatever, how many people are really going to watch it?
Is it a thousand?
A million?
How many people watch it?
But if you have a clip that goes viral...
That clip on YouTube or Twitter or Facebook, wherever, that could get 30 million people, 40 million people, way fucking more than is ever going to watch you on television.
They've kind of accepted that on late night television.
Late night television has kind of accepted that what they're looking for is these clips, these moments, these clips that almost act as advertisements for the show.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, where it's James Corden fucking making people sing in his car.
That kind of shit.
They're trying to get these clips that go viral.
Because the show itself, I mean, I don't know how many people are watching.
A few hundred thousand at the most, right?
It's nothing in comparison to a lot of the...
Like, what's that guy's name that's the famous makeup kid?
He's a gay fellow?
greg fitzsimmons
James Charles.
joe rogan
James Charles.
That guy's videos on makeup get way more fucking views than anything that happens on Fox News, and that's a fact.
Anything that happens on MSNBC, and that's a fact.
Social media is way more potent than anything else when it comes to getting a message out.
And for sure, conservatives are being discriminated against on social media, by social media platforms.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, what's weird about it is that when you think about social media and coming out of Silicon Valley, which is famously left-wing, the election was really swung by the internet in Trump's favor.
You know, whether or not you want to call them bots that were set up by Russia or whether or not it was just they were a well-organized campaign.
They were really smart and very sharp about videos that they put out.
out yes they they have a thing now where they put out a lot of memes that they encourage people to make memes about yes um they're all over democrats are so far behind the republicans when it comes to using using it but you're right i mean if you if you ban certain people from twitter and from youtube YouTube.
That's censorship.
joe rogan
Yes, it is censorship.
And even if you're not banning them from those platforms, if you're shadow banning them, if you're making it very difficult for people to find them, which is real.
It's a real thing that they do.
If you have a post on social media, it doesn't just go up in chronological order anymore.
Now it's affected by an algorithm.
So I might see your posts or I might not see your posts in my feed.
It's dependent upon what I like and what I watch and what I see.
When I go to search, like if you look at my search feed, you know what you see?
You see people beating the fuck out of each other and girls doing squats.
That's like my search.
It's all like, it's the most cartoonish version of me possible.
It's all like big bull elk screaming and dudes getting head kicked in a muscle car doing a burnout.
That's my fucking, that's all, you look at my Instagram search, and that's all affected entirely by this algorithm that figures out what I like.
And then also recommends things to me.
Like in terms of like, there's a lot of sponsored things on Instagram.
Like, ooh, I could use that.
Is that good?
I don't have to Google it.
Is that a fucking thing?
And it's because it's targeting me.
It's found me.
It knows that I search for certain things.
I look at certain things.
These are the sites that I follow.
These are the things that I interact with.
So let's sell them something.
And it does the same with you.
It does the same with Jamie.
It does the same with everybody.
So they can, in certain social media platforms, use that algorithm to discriminate.
So they can decide, hey, this fucking guy keeps chirping on and on about Hillary Clinton's war crimes and all this.
We don't need this guy around, okay?
We don't need this guy and all of his fucking right-wing bullshit and all his Make America Great Again bullshit.
So we'll shadow ban him.
And so they can shove you into this category where it's very difficult to find your page.
And it's very difficult for your shit to show up.
And a lot of people have seen their views drop drastically.
Their interactions drop drastically.
Because people aren't seeing their shit anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Andrew Santino had that happen to him.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
He talked to someone.
Talked to someone on the phone that told him he was shadow banned.
And he's like, what does that mean?
They're like, well, it's because of a post that you made.
He goes, well, what post is it?
They wouldn't tell him what post it was.
greg fitzsimmons
What kind of post would it have been?
Is he political?
joe rogan
No!
He's like, I'm not political at all.
But, you know, he's a comic and he says ridiculous shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's a redhead.
And so people are probably like, you know, look at this guy.
This super white-looking guy who says a bunch of ridiculous shit.
Get rid of him!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Off of his head.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
No, I had this guy, Weirdfella, I think is his handle on Twitter.
And he used to say stupid shit.
He was goofy, whatever.
You know, I would interact with him a little bit.
And then he emailed me at my site to say that he got banned from Twitter.
Remember on Halloween when a kid showed up at the White House and Trump and Milani were standing there and Trump put candy on top of the kid's head instead of handing it to him?
It was kind of...
It was like a really ridiculous, like, this guy can't even just put candy in the fucking kid's bag.
He's got to put it on his head.
So it was like something that became a meme.
And this guy just wrote, I wish the kid had kicked him in the shins.
Thrown off Twitter for saying that.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
There's a woman named Megan Murphy.
She's what's called a TERF. Do you know what a TERF is?
Trans-exclusionary radical feminist.
And she is one of those radical feminists that don't believe that a trans person is a woman.
And she was arguing that these people don't have, they shouldn't have a voice in women's issues.
Like, you're not a woman.
And so this is her opinion.
And some people think that that opinion is transphobic.
Some people think she should be allowed to have that opinion.
While on Twitter, she wrote, a man is never a woman.
They told her she has to take down that tweet.
So you know what she did?
She made a screenshot of it.
She took down that tweet, and then she posted a picture of the screenshot.
And then they banned it for life.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You know who's not banned for life?
O.J. Simpson.
Double homicide.
Arm kidnapping.
Hey, Twitter world.
unidentified
Hey, Twitter world, it's your friend O.J. with football picks.
joe rogan
Hey, Twitter world.
He's fine, but this lady who just said with her words, a man is never a woman, which biologically is correct.
Banned!
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Do you know what else you get banned for?
greg fitzsimmons
Damn.
joe rogan
Do you know what else you get banned for for life?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Dead naming.
Do you know what dead name he is?
greg fitzsimmons
What's that?
joe rogan
If you call Caitlyn Jenner Bruce.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Banned for life.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Yes.
For life.
Damn.
Ridiculous.
Wow.
This is the world we're living in.
This is this political ideology world.
This is the reason why someone like Elizabeth Warren thinks she has to say taxpayer money should pay for prisoners.
Some fucking mass murderer who decides he's a woman now to get this transitionary surgery.
Transition surgery.
Yeah.
Reassignment surgery.
Whatever you want to call it.
Look, I wish there was a fucking pill that you could take.
I wish there was a place where you can go, where they zap you, like the place where they turn Bruce Banner into the Hulk, that turns you into a woman.
A legit, 100% bona fide XX chromosome woman.
I wish there was.
I wish there was.
So this is no argument.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
The argument is in changing someone, but not really.
You know?
Like, you're still your chromosomes and your biological makeup.
And then forcing people to comply.
So it's a thing of compliance.
Like, you're supposed to not bring up the fact that this person used to be a man.
Like, if your name is Greg, but, like, my friend Aubrey, okay?
Perfect example.
His name used to be Chris.
But he tripped balls one day and decided he wanted to change his name.
So he changed his name.
We all just called him Aubrey now.
I don't call him Chris anymore.
He was Chris for years.
I knew him as Chris for years.
And then he became Aubrey.
I'm like, alright, man.
You want to be Aubrey?
Now you're Aubrey.
I don't give a fuck.
But if I called him Chris, would I be dead naming him?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
You know what else is weird is that the same mentality that says this says that a white kid who grows dreadlocks and dresses in urban streetwear is culturally appropriating.
joe rogan
Yes.
Many, many of the people that would think that, yeah.
Including, there was a movement that they had, I think most people abandoned it, but it was really ridiculous for a while, where they were yelling at white girls wearing hoop earrings, because they were saying that this is a Latina thing, you're culturally appropriating.
unidentified
I remember that.
joe rogan
But it's not.
Historically, you've got to go back to ancient Sumerans, where they invented hoop earrings.
So are you from Babylon?
Are you from Mesopotamia?
No?
Then shut the fuck up, because you're culturally appropriating.
Do you have a Korean phone in your hand?
Yeah.
Guess what?
That's culturally appropriating.
Are those Italian jeans?
Culturally appropriating.
Who made your sneakers?
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
China?
What the fuck are we talking about?
Culturally appropriating is one of the dumbest fucking things, because that's what cities are.
They're melting pots of awesome cultures, and they all get together.
If you're a fucking dude and you want to dress up like Bruce Lee, that doesn't mean you're culturally appropriating.
It means you're a Bruce Lee fan, and it's kind of cool.
greg fitzsimmons
You're admiring that, and so you're...
Trying to take it on.
joe rogan
It's all woke.
It's all woke culture.
It's this culture of compliance.
They want you to comply.
That's what it's about, more than anything.
It's getting people to change.
Getting people to listen to you and do what you want them to do.
I want you to stop wearing those fucking earrings.
I want you to stop wearing dreadlocks.
Meanwhile, dreadlocks...
Romans wore fucking dreadlocks.
Dreadlocks are not necessarily a black thing, although most black people...
There was more, rather, black people wearing them than white people.
But white people have had dreadlocks forever.
We've all seen dirty hippies with dreadlocks.
Go to a fucking Grateful Dead concert.
There's a lot of dirty white people with dreadlocks.
They're not trying to culturally appropriate.
They're trying to be dirty hippies with dreadlocks.
They exist.
They're real.
To say that that's cultural appropriation is fucking crazy.
We all appropriate.
We all do.
We all do.
If you are in the United States in 2019, you're a part of the greatest melting pot the world has ever known.
And to decide that you can have some of that, but you can't have other parts.
Come on, man.
Stop.
greg fitzsimmons
Good luck on Halloween.
Jesus Christ.
I read this list of things you shouldn't do on Halloween.
It was like, don't put a feather in your head.
Don't even tattoo.
Don't put a tattoo of something that would identify you as Native American or Asian.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't have Asian letters tattooed.
That was a thing that people used to do.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, is that a thing you shouldn't do now?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
I never was a fan of that to begin with.
joe rogan
Obama wrote—yeah, he didn't write—he gave a speech.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I saw that!
joe rogan
That was excellent.
greg fitzsimmons
It was great.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was excellent.
He's telling people, like, we're looking to cancel people all the time.
And this is a perfect quote that he said, the world is messy, and it is messy.
Here's the—we've got to stop looking for things that make you angry.
And just try, try to let things go and just be nice to each other.
greg fitzsimmons
It's not that hard.
And dialogue.
These people want to just talk and have you listen.
Like, I saw a woman coming out of a fucking restaurant the other day, and I was walking in, and a t-shirt said, I don't want to hear, or men stop talking.
I don't want to hear from men.
And it was like, I'm sorry, did I do something to you?
Have I not raised a beautiful daughter and been a loving husband and a great son to my mother?
joe rogan
And a great friend to a lot of women.
greg fitzsimmons
And mentored many female comics that I bring on the road with me and hired when I was a head writer on TV shows that I've hired.
And it's like, don't fucking put me in that category.
How about we talk about it?
Do you have an issue with what's going on with you personally?
Involving me?
Well, let's talk about it.
joe rogan
As a human being.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
As an individual.
But that's the thing.
They're denying the individual.
And they're making everything binary.
It's you and them.
It's us and them.
It's one and zero.
It's not...
There's no room for nuance.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no room for the complexity that is the human race.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
This idea, like, men should shut the fuck up.
I don't want to hear from white men.
That's another one.
I've seen that shirt.
I don't want to hear from white men.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe that's what it was.
I don't want to hear from white men.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's all nonsense.
It comes from people that want compliance.
The whole thing about woke culture is people that felt like they've been pushed around, they felt like they've been bullied, they felt like they've been maligned, they haven't been treated fairly, and now they want to turn it on you.
And they don't give a fuck.
They don't give a fuck if you're a white man.
I don't give a fuck what your opinion is.
Shut your fucking mouth.
And they feel like they can say that.
Because this culture emboldens people by letting people get away with nonsense, by letting people say things like that.
Like if I owned a restaurant and someone walked in with a shirt like that, I'd be like, get the fuck out of here.
Just like if you walked into a shirt with a shirt that said black people should shut the fuck up.
Get out!
If you really think that, you have no room for black people talking, I don't want you around.
Your mind is rotten.
You're thinking a terrible way.
Go cleanse yourself.
Go take a fucking meditation class or something.
Figure out what's wrong with you.
But don't bring that toxic energy around people.
It's stupid.
It's discriminatory.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it's half the population.
And it's like, I understand that women have been...
They've had a different experience than men.
Black people have had a different experience than white people.
There's issues that need to be addressed and corrected.
And enlist me in that.
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm perfectly willing to...
joe rogan
But don't force you...
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
...to comply.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's a giant issue in this country that is, like, skirted.
It gets addressed, but then it gets ignored.
And that is, what do they do with all the communities that have been forever affected by slavery?
Like, what about all those...
When people talk about reparations, It gets dismissed.
Like, it's not you.
I didn't do anything.
It's not you.
It doesn't have to do with you.
You didn't do anything.
You never owned a slave.
I never owned a slave.
We didn't have anything to do with it.
But there's no denying that there's parts of this country that are forever affected by slavery and then, afterwards, by racist laws.
Those redline laws.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
Reconstruction and Jim Crow.
joe rogan
All that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
Never really been addressed.
Never been addressed in terms of a correction.
Now, in terms of reparations, you give people money.
I don't know if that works.
If I thought that by me paying more in taxes and them giving reparations, we could ease the tension, racial tension in this country, I would be like, okay, that's all you have to do, but it's not all you have to do.
Because you're still going to have these communities that are forever affected until something has been done to correct them.
Like, I'm not in favor of giving people who were never slaves money as reparations, but I am in favor of giving communities money and figuring out a way to rebuild them, figuring out a way to make them safer, better.
greg fitzsimmons
Pre-schools, school lunches.
joe rogan
Community programs, getting people off the streets that are involved in gangs and drugs and all that stuff.
Like, I've said this a thousand times, but it bears repeating.
The best way to have a great country is if we're a team or if we're a country, we're supposed to be a team, right?
We're a community.
A giant community of 320 million people.
What's the best way to make it stronger?
Well, you have less losers.
That's the best way.
Well, what's the likelihood of you becoming a loser if you're in an impoverished, drug-riddled, crime, just ravaged area?
Well, it's highly likely that you're not going to succeed in that area unless...
You are some person of unbelievable character and unbelievable will and fortitude and you're raised by people who did a phenomenal job essentially in a war zone, right?
If you live in the south side of Chicago and you look at the murder rate in the south side of Chicago and you compare it to the murder rate in war zones, they're pretty fucking similar, right?
So essentially these people are being asked to do their best and come out of this war zone and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Whereas other people around them are not in a war zone.
If we're a community, we're supposed to look at that and go, hey, how the fuck do you stop this thing from being a war zone?
How do we stop this?
How do we do that with Detroit?
How do we do that with Baltimore?
How do we do that with all these impoverished areas?
That should be addressed.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it has to be looked at as our problem, not their problem.
We are all living with the ramifications of inequality.
It's affecting us on a daily basis, whether it's crime or whether it's our gross national product would be much higher if more people were educated and more people were proud of their work.
Yes.
And so there has to be pride.
Less losers, more pride.
More pride.
More identifying with progress.
And I think if you live in a certain culture in this country, there isn't a pride in succeeding.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Because you haven't seen it.
joe rogan
Right.
More opportunity.
And this includes poor white cultures.
Like, I have a friend who's from Kentucky, and he tells me about these fucking people that live in these coal mining communities, where the coal mining community, the coal's gone, and the community's shut down, people are hooked on pills, and he's like, you have never seen poverty like this.
He's like, you've never seen it.
Where like everyone in the community is on pills.
Everyone is surviving on like below minimum wage.
Everyone's a criminal.
Like it's just everyone's poor.
It's just horrific.
Did you ever see the wild and wonderful whites of West Virginia?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
I think it's a Johnny Knoxville documentary.
Did he put it together?
It's amazing.
It's amazing for all the wrong reasons.
Because these are the trashiest white trash people that have ever lived.
And they're all on pills.
They're all turning tricks and doing crazy shit and robbing people and shooting people.
Everyone has a fucking story that's like, you're like Macaulay Culkin from Home Alone.
Like, what?!
You're putting your hands on your ears like, what the fuck?!
But those communities exist.
They exist.
And it's so hard to get out.
It's so hard to break free.
Like, we as a community, as a giant 320 million person community, should be concentrating on fixing those spots.
At least as much as we're concentrating on fixing problems in other parts of the world.
I understand the logic behind going to these other parts of the world that are fucked up and trying to solve these problems before they affect us, before they come back to us.
That's the logic.
I get it.
But internally, inside of our country, we're not doing the same thing.
We're allowing people to become violent criminals by never giving them a chance, by never giving them an outcome, or never giving them possibilities other than what they see around them.
Not giving them any opportunities.
And we treat it as if they're supposed to be, we're all supposed to be even.
We're all supposed to be on this even game.
No.
Some people got one shitty card, and some people got like five aces.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, there's this documentary they made about a public school in Chicago.
I forget what, Oak Park, I think it was in.
It was called America is Me.
And it was like this 10-part series, and it showed the experiences of the white kids versus the black kids, because it was an integrated school, but you were seeing that the black kids were lagging grade-wise, graduation rates.
And they just went in depth, and you saw that a lot of the black kids were dealing with single parents, they were dealing with being fucking evicted, some of them being homeless, or just not having the resources, like, you know, the white kids are getting SAT prep classes.
And, you know, they're getting extra help because they've got a parent that's not working that can pick them up from school and drive them to a tutor.
And there's just all these things that you're seeing.
One side is getting fostered and the other side is struggling.
And it's the same fucking school.
So it's not as simple as just put good schools in the community, but there's got to be...
Mentorship programs.
joe rogan
Community outreach programs.
greg fitzsimmons
Community outreach.
They've got to get preschools.
They've got to get kids in there at a young age so the parents can work and there's good nutrition.
They say that the studies that show preschool, the differences long term of how people come out of there with those extra two years is astronomical.
joe rogan
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
You prep them for it early.
But the thing is, this is where a concept like democratic socialism actually makes sense.
People think of democratic socialism or anything where you say the word socialism, they go, "Oh, you're going to take money and give it to lazy people." That's the worst case scenario, right?
But man, if we're a community, if we are a community of human beings, we've got to help the people that aren't doing good.
There's got to be a reason why they're not doing good.
It's not that they're inferior.
They have inferior choices.
They have inferior opportunities.
They have an inferior situation.
And it's so hard to get the mass of people behind giving their money to some sort of a program that does take steps to fix this.
You just don't hear it.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you know, they had the jobs for FDR and the New Deal.
They were able to start.
People want to work.
People don't want to get a welfare check.
They want to feel good about themselves.
And you want to be busy all day.
Sometimes I don't work for a month.
You know, I'm between writing jobs.
Maybe I take some time off from stand-up.
I don't feel good about myself.
joe rogan
Terrible.
greg fitzsimmons
I mean, imagine that times year after year and generation after generation.
joe rogan
And for you, it's a choice.
Like, if you wanted to go on the road anytime.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's not a choice for a lot of people.
For a lot of choices, they're just fucked.
greg fitzsimmons
And you used to have, the funny thing is like the factory jobs, you look back on them and you go, those are like really shitty jobs.
You know, I grew up in a factory town and it was like, people were not enjoying it.
People were getting fucking drunk and high and just getting through.
And now we're looking, we're hearkening back to like that it was like some golden age of great work.
Like, no, you know, they were union jobs, which was great, but let's shoot higher.
You know, let's, the factory jobs aren't coming back.
joe rogan
But the real question is, some people don't have aspirations.
So if you took someone who's already gone through the school system and, oh, we're going to get jobs for people, that's not good enough.
You've got to fix the people that are fucked up.
You can't say – an 18-year-old person is not a finished product.
A 25-year-old person who came from a fucked-up neighborhood and has got all sorts of mental problems and probably PTSD, that's not a finished product.
You can't say, we've got a job for you.
Well, because they're fucked in the head.
They've had to deal with their friend getting shot.
They have to deal with their mom being on crack.
Getting them a job is not enough.
I don't know what the answer is.
Obviously, we're just two white guys talking shit.
We don't have to worry about this.
This is not our concern.
But if you wanted to, if you wanted to fix, if you were a person, say if Greg Fitzsimmons became president, How do you fix that?
How do you even make steps to fix that?
Because I haven't heard anyone come up with a plan, maybe there is one that I haven't heard, but a plan where it makes sense, where there's a long-term proposition to try to take these communities that are just habitually engulfed in crime and violence, just consistently, like throughout the 60s and the 70s, and fix it.
And turn it around.
At least try.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, the gap between the rich and the poor is growing ever since the 80s.
It's gotten just out of hand.
The top 1% have 50% of the money or something like that.
And everything is set up structurally for that to continue to divide more and more.
joe rogan
Right, but are they playing a game?
They're playing a game called capitalism.
And that game, they're dominating that game.
And once they get the money, then they keep the money and they pass that money down to their kids and then they keep the money.
How do you change that?
I mean, we could all play that game, right?
Like, we could all invest in the stock market.
We can all just really focus entirely on making money.
Or should we not be able to?
Like, how do you stop The 1%, like these bankers and investment people, how do you stop that?
And how do you stop that in a way where it doesn't seem like you're changing the rules of the game because some people are just psycho good at it and completely dedicated to only making money?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you're not changing the rules because the estate tax was there from day one.
The Founding Fathers wanted there to be a very large estate tax.
Right.
To avoid what happened in Europe, which is these building up of these families that are handing down wealth.
And so these kids, you know, so I think we need to go back to right now it's like 35% or something like that on wealth over $10 million if you're a couple.
They need to go back to really taking that money back because… And doing what with it though?
Put it into schools to start with.
joe rogan
I would love that if there was a real logic to how that money got spent.
That would be the problem.
Because if it just went to a bunch of government programs that don't seem to make sense and that are poorly structured and that money gets wasted, that would make me sick.
greg fitzsimmons
No, I think it has to be job training programs.
It has to be helping small businesses grow with low-cost loans.
But think about these kids that are inheriting a billion dollars.
What are you ever going to contribute to society?
As opposed to, if you were set up with, you went to a private high school, you went to a great university, you went to a graduate school, all of it was paid for.
You had nannies, you were given tutors.
You should be able to go out and make a good living now.
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
You don't need that billion dollars.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And you will feel so much better if you make your own money.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
So there should be enough money left.
I'm not saying take away everybody's money when they die, but I'm saying that there's a grotesque amount of money that needs to be pulled back.
joe rogan
That's one way of at least putting a chip away at it.
That's one way, right?
That money?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's another way?
Unless you want, like, cops or police to occupy these areas.
Like, how would you ever stop, like, at this point in time, how would you stop places from being crime-ridden?
It would have to be, like, a multi-step program where you would slowly but surely implement it and try to slowly but surely chip away at all these problems.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not something you're going to fix overnight because it didn't happen overnight, you know?
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
No, there has to be great leadership, and there has to be...
joe rogan
But, man, you've got eight years.
You're a president, you've got four, and if you're lucky, you get eight.
greg fitzsimmons
No, I mean local leadership.
You need to, you know, city councilmen and, you know, mayors that are really looking at the community and figuring...
And each one's different, you know?
joe rogan
But I feel like if it's that way, unless it's federally, if it's that way, like, you're dealing with communities that don't have as much money already.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because just by virtue of the fact that they're crime-ridden and poverty-stricken, these are communities that already don't have any money.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Low-tax base.
joe rogan
Let's go back to talking about farts.
greg fitzsimmons
Yes!
joe rogan
This bums me out.
I get really bummed out when I talk about people that live in poor neighborhoods that don't have a way out.
Because that is one thing that really freaks me out.
Like, being stuck.
Like, the feeling of being stuck.
I don't know...
I mean, I don't know what it is about that feeling, but it's just...
You see people in...
I was in Colorado Springs once, and I saw this homeless couple, and they were begging for money, and they had a fucking baby.
They had a baby.
And it was outside, and it was kind of cold.
It was like October.
And I'll never forget that.
I'm seeing this homeless couple with a baby.
And I'm like, fuck.
they have a baby and they're homeless god damn it yeah like that that kind of shit freaks me the fuck out yeah like people who are just doomed you're stuck like you're stuck your parents are homeless and you're a baby and usually the parent one of the parents or both of them is mentally ill i I mean, most homelessness is caused by mental illness.
greg fitzsimmons
You have addiction, which is usually somebody self-medicating to begin with.
If you got to that point, you're usually self-medicating something.
And it could be a number of things.
But, you know, there used to be...
You had people that were institutionalized because they needed help.
You had mental hospitals.
You had places where the lowest in our society, the most vulnerable, were taken care of, and those were closed, and those people are on the street now.
joe rogan
That was during the Reagan administration, right?
Now, in LA, we now have typhus.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
They have literally medieval diseases making a comeback.
greg fitzsimmons
Tuberculosis is back.
joe rogan
There's so many homeless people in LA. They think it might be as many as 70,000 people.
greg fitzsimmons
Every night, 70,000 people.
That's what I heard.
joe rogan
70,000.
And there's not a fucking single plan that makes any sense to deal with that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
How do they fix that?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, part of the problem is that, you know, it's just gotten so expensive to live here.
You know, the real estate has gone through the roof, and so people that were living on the edge, you know, paycheck to paycheck, all of a sudden, you're fucking, you're out.
You stay on as many couches as you can until people say, look, you can't live here anymore.
And then you're in your car, and, you know, trying to get, now you gotta get, to get back into housing, you need to come up with a first, last security deposit.
Where the fuck are you getting that?
joe rogan
Where are you getting that?
That's definitely happening in some cases.
And a lot of cases it's just drug addicts too, right?
People who are addicted to drugs.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Well, one of the things they're finding is that, like, I work with this group called People Concern in L.A., and they're trying to get people into housing.
Transitory housing where they can at least get a shower, get some decent clothes.
We can go in a job interview and get started where you don't have to pay that first last security deposit.
joe rogan
That's great if you're not mentally ill.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
You know, if you're mentally ill, all the showers in the world aren't going to fix Robert William Aparovia.
Remember that dude?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
You know that guy?
He's a guy who comes to the comedy store all the time.
Very nice guy.
He's a perpetual open miker.
Actually kind of funny.
He's got some good one-liners, but he's got something wrong.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and those people need to take medication every day.
When you're on the street, you're not getting it.
And what they require is that you go to a certain facility every day to get your pills.
They won't give you the pills.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
These people are fucking, they don't know where they're sleeping that night.
They can't show up at a certain time at a certain place.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
So they need to have, and one of the things they found also is when they give people housing, it used to be contingent on you staying sober.
And now they're finding that, no, get them off the street.
If they're still using, you try to work with them, you try to get them into counseling, but you don't throw them back out on the street because they're using.
joe rogan
God, fixing people, dude.
Fixing people.
So fucking hard.
Look, I did a podcast this weekend with Artie.
Artie Lang?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's been sober now for nine months.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's fucking great.
His eyes, they sparkle.
He's alive.
greg fitzsimmons
That's great.
joe rogan
He's right there with you.
His stories were hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
The best storyteller out there.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Dude, it was so fun.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was just thinking, like, you know, I was so happy to see him, so happy to see him sober.
Crying, laughing, and thinking, God damn it, I hope he hangs in there.
I hope.
You know, they were talking about fixing his nose, but the doctor was like, look, he's going to be on pain pills if you fix his nose.
They're going to give him medication.
It's too soon.
He needs at least a year of sobriety before he even thinks about doing that, but even then, you're taking a guy who's a bona fide addict, a self-professed addict, and then you're going to give him drugs?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on.
greg fitzsimmons
I know, you can't do it.
joe rogan
You can't do it.
greg fitzsimmons
No, and that's got to be some painful surgery.
I would imagine you'd have to have something coming after that.
joe rogan
Nah, you can take it.
You can take it.
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, you're alright.
greg fitzsimmons
I mean, it sucks.
I heard meditation can be as effective as any painkiller if you do it right.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I doubt it.
I don't think so.
I bet painkillers are way better.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
People aren't addicted to medication or meditation.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
They're addicted to medication, not meditation.
greg fitzsimmons
No, I'm happy for...
I'm really happy for Artie, and I've seen him, you know...
I saw him before he went in, and he was a fucking mess.
He was really bad, and he had been doing good.
Like, he was on Crashing the two years that I was there, and he would come in, and the guy was always on time, knew his lines, improv'd his face off, was always fucking great.
And then you'd hear that he'd gone off again, and you were just like, man, can't you just fucking...
You're so much to offer.
So smart.
So talented.
joe rogan
But he's also a wild man.
That's one of the reasons why he's so funny.
Because he's so impulsive and wild.
That's just who Artie is.
But god damn, he's alive right now.
He's alive and kicking.
And his fucking eyes are sparkling.
Like you talk to him, he's like, ah!
He's right there.
He was so funny.
God damn, he was funny.
It was just so nice to see him and hug him.
When someone has gone through hell and back like that, just...
Right, right.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and it's like, it is.
It's that wild, they have to find something to replace.
I mean, Lenny, I heard Lenny on your show.
He was fucking great.
I mean, that guy, not that he was ever like a hard addict, but he's been sober for a lot of years, and he found ways to replace it and still be a fucking madman.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You know, he plays golf like a fucking madman.
joe rogan
Funny as ever.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Funny as ever.
joe rogan
Funny as ever.
greg fitzsimmons
Funnier, I would say.
joe rogan
Oh my God, he's so funny on the podcast.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just rapid fire.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's in his 60s.
Yeah.
He's a wild man still.
Yeah, I told him to start running.
I said, a lot of addicts, they start...
unidentified
He goes, I never got that runner's eye.
joe rogan
I ran a little bit.
I never got that fucking run as high.
I'm like, I think you gotta run a lot.
You gotta get in shape, and then you do it a lot, and then you get used to it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, the high doesn't kick in right away.
There's some layers you gotta shed first.
joe rogan
But this goes back to what you were talking about earlier, about so many of us are looking for a way to twist our consciousness, to do something to just take you out of whatever the fuck the normal, sober consciousness is.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, what's wrong with the regular sober consciousness?
And I mean, I'm saying this as somebody who struggles with it.
I feel all the time like reaching for something.
Even if it's like, I took CBD pills this morning, just because it changes me a little bit.
It fucking evens me out a little bit.
You know, I'm on the road, I'll smoke a little pot.
Why?
unidentified
Why?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know.
I just need to be different right now.
I need my head to change right now.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's the monotony of existential angst, too.
It's just like wearing you down.
You know, you look in the mirror, you see a few more lines, a few more bags.
Your skin is just slowly giving away from your skull.
Slowly.
Slowly.
And we're not going to win this race.
No one wins.
No one wins this thing.
And that just wears you out.
Sometimes you just don't want to think about that.
You have a couple of drinks, you don't think about it anymore.
You're like, fuck!
Fucking Donald Trump!
unidentified
Donald!
joe rogan
You get hammered.
You see the fights.
You go to see a game.
You go to a concert.
You drop acid.
You do something.
greg fitzsimmons
You hit on somebody.
You wouldn't have done that.
I wouldn't have walked up to that fucking hot chick and told her a joke.
No way.
joe rogan
A couple of drinks.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ladies, let me buy you a drink.
Come on.
greg fitzsimmons
I can remember trying to hook up sober after being drunk for so much of my life and then getting sober and then trying to hit on girls and, like, go to bed with a girl while sober was weird.
I was looking at my body like, look at this shitty body.
I didn't care about my body when I was drunk.
I'd walk to the bathroom naked.
Walk back with my dick flopping around.
But once you're sober, you're like, this is really odd.
I just met this person.
joe rogan
I know.
Even sex.
What is that?
You're trying to get some sort of a rush out of that.
You're trying to escape.
You're trying to both of you together.
We're doing something.
We're leaving this plane.
You're doing something.
You're trying to escape.
Whatever this fucking monotonous existence is, together.
greg fitzsimmons
You're seeing her face.
A woman that, an hour before, was sitting in a bar, maybe smiling and thinking to herself, oh, does my smile feel fake?
Or should I be smiling more?
And now all of a sudden, she's screaming.
Her eyes are rolled back.
She's in another dimension.
joe rogan
Yeah, both of you are.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then afterwards you gotta deal with each other.
That is the weirdest thing ever.
It's like when you really think you're into someone and then you come and you're like, oh my god, I gotta get out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
How much of it is chemical?
joe rogan
It's such a fucking trick.
And women are like, ah, you just did that.
You just pretended you liked me so you could have sex with me.
No, I thought I did like you.
I was tricking myself too.
Like, I really believed it.
If you, you know, if you say a lot of shit that you don't really mean just to fuck someone, that's a dirty move.
But so many guys, and I've talked to so many guys who echo this, you really think you like them until you come.
And then you're like, oh.
And then whatever was kind of cute before, now is annoying and grating on you.
It's probably the same with women.
They probably thought they liked you until you fucked them and then you're hanging around talking and farting and they're like, get this guy out of my fucking apartment.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
It's biology.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the ultimate trick, right?
When you're having sex...
With someone, especially if you're really aroused, and they're really hot, and you're really into it, and they're into you, that is a drug.
It's definitely a drug.
Your oxytocin's through the roof, all your fucking pheromones are flying around, you're smelling each other, and you're aroused.
All your sex hormones are fucking...
You're blaring, you know?
greg fitzsimmons
And it's all, it's the number one thing.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
That's it.
greg fitzsimmons
I mean, when you think about it, there's the orgasm and then what's second?
What's second in the list of great things that you can experience physically?
A runner's high?
joe rogan
Um, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You know, without drugs, just that you can naturally experience?
joe rogan
It's pretty up, it's pretty up there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's not a lot of things.
Well, it's also that it's difficult to procure, right?
It's difficult to get someone who's really attractive to like you, right?
I mean, that's the reason why you and I are funny, right?
Let's be honest.
Like, why are most men, why do they have a sense of humor?
They have a sense of humor because girls like that.
It's a big one.
You can kind of jump through a lot of hoops.
You can skip a lot of steps if you're funny.
If you're a guy and you're funny, because you have to be smart to be funny.
So girls are like, oh, he knows how to be funny.
And if they're not funny, but then you're funny, you can make them laugh.
They're like, oh, just bring this fucking comedian with me everywhere.
And I always have my own little show.
And when she likes you because of that, you're like, oh, she likes me because I'm funny.
And then I'll get funnier.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll work at this.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
I'll be good at this.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, when I was in sixth grade, me and John Yerzak used to do comedy routines for the girls at lunch.
And we had whole fucking routines.
Like, you know, like Mark's Brothers stuff and Muppet Show shit.
Like, whatever worked.
We were up there tap dancing for those girls.
joe rogan
And they liked it.
greg fitzsimmons
Vicki Bettman and Linda Rake.
You're so funny, Greg.
They loved it!
joe rogan
That's so funny!
greg fitzsimmons
And I remember that feeling back then because I was the skinny little kid with red hair and freckles.
No chicks took it.
They just cared about the guys that were good at sports.
And all of a sudden, like, I'm getting laughs.
And I just remember feeling like, this is what I want to do.
This is what I need to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, you need people to like you.
Yeah.
So there's that, right?
It's like when guys see a car, like a brand new Mercedes in a commercial, and there's a girl with long legs and high heels, and she's leaning against the car.
You're like, oh my god, does that girl come with the car?
If I get the car, will I get her?
I need to get her.
It's hard to get one of those.
You get a girl with long legs and high heels and beautiful lips, and she's looking at you like she loves you.
That's so difficult to find.
It's so difficult to get.
Most of the time, those girls, they walk right by you.
You don't even exist.
unidentified
But look at that.
joe rogan
If I get that watch, that watch, there's a girl staring at that watch.
She loves that watch.
Gotta get that watch.
And that's what's used to sell most things.
How many things in America, in particular, are sold by attractive women?
Attractive women in ads, attractive women that we associate, if you get this Lamborghini, attractive women will be more drawn to you because it's difficult to get a Lamborghini.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If this guy can get a Lamborghini, that means he's got $300,000 to throw on a stupid car that's probably going to break down.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Jon Hamm doing those car ads.
Women fucking, they want to get in that car with Jon Hamm.
Matthew McConaughey.
Look at him.
joe rogan
Look at him.
greg fitzsimmons
Look at that house he lives in.
I could be in that house.
joe rogan
I just need to, if I meet him, he'll love me.
greg fitzsimmons
I would put a couch over there, though.
unidentified
There's not enough, there's not enough shrubbery inside the house.
joe rogan
Gotta fix it.
greg fitzsimmons
Kind of a modern painting.
joe rogan
It just needs a woman's touch.
greg fitzsimmons
Then he has sex with you and he's like, I gotta go.
joe rogan
But I thought...
greg fitzsimmons
But it's your house.
joe rogan
We have forever.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
The ultimate biological trick.
If they've ever...
That's what's going to be really weird.
Like, if you look at aliens, right?
What's the iconic alien?
They have the big heads.
They have these little boy-like bodies.
greg fitzsimmons
Long fingers.
joe rogan
No dicks.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's nothing there.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because that's probably what happens in the future.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
In the future, we all figure out...
We are being tricked left and right by our dicks and our vaginas and our sex hormones are talking us into nonsense where we could just be enlightened and we could travel the galaxy together.
But we've got to get past all this sex stuff, this biological sex stuff.
And you can have an orgasm in your own brain here with this new phone, iPhone 72. Yeah.
And just press the button and get that out of your system.
Good.
Now we don't need sex anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we don't need our mouths either.
We need to talk with our brains.
Just a big giant head with a tiny slit for a mouth.
greg fitzsimmons
It's like, remember that Woody Allen movie, Sleepers, and they have the orgasmatron?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And you just pass it around and then you have an orgasm and then you move on.
That was it.
joe rogan
You think about how much work is involved in trying to get an orgasm.
Like how much energy people spend.
And then the seduction, right?
You meet someone at a bar.
Can I buy you a drink?
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Want me to light that cigarette?
Can't do that anymore.
But that was a thing, right?
Like, light the girl's cigarette, buy a drink.
Oh, he's so charming.
Oh, oh.
Thinking, maybe.
greg fitzsimmons
Dance?
A mating dance?
joe rogan
Let's dance.
greg fitzsimmons
Watch me shake my hips, I'm gonna look you in the eye.
joe rogan
Does he know how to dance?
A guy who doesn't know how to dance probably sucks in bed.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
That guy can fucking dance.
joe rogan
Look at him dance.
Maybe I'll let him shoot one in me.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
It's time to breed.
I'm going to breed with a conqueror.
A man who could dance, who knows how to light a cigarette.
greg fitzsimmons
He could kill somebody for me.
He's big.
joe rogan
He's big, and he knows how to think.
He knows how to...
We've got to get out of here.
Trouble's brewing.
unidentified
He's a protector.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm going to get in his nice car.
He can drive fast.
He lives in the top of the hill.
He's got a good spot where we can see the enemies coming from the long way.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So weird.
I mean, our business is getting people to like us, right?
That's a big part of what our business is.
Our business is saying funny shit so people like us.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And other people do different things.
Some girls, they just work on their squats.
They just go to the gym a lot so that people like them more.
Their ass sticks out more, get more attention.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Some people are just funny.
Some people, they acquire things.
Some people acquire power, respect, influence.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I watched this nature special on the, what are those animals that hang upside down in Australia?
joe rogan
Bats?
greg fitzsimmons
No, they're like furry.
They're furry and cute.
joe rogan
Wallabies?
No, they bounce around.
greg fitzsimmons
I forget what they're called.
joe rogan
Wombats?
greg fitzsimmons
No, they've got them here too, I think.
But anyway, this motherfucker is on one side of the river, and he can hear a mating call from the other side of the river, and he's slow as shit.
joe rogan
A sloth?
greg fitzsimmons
A sloth!
A sloth.
So this sloth here is the female sloth, and he fucking, and I don't know where they get these cameras from, but they watch this guy go down the tree, across a limb, into the water, can't swim for shit.
There's fucking rapids, he makes his way across, I was like...
Oh, because he can hear that.
Gets across, climbs on it.
It takes like two days.
And then he finds this other sloth and he climbs on top of her.
A couple shakes of the head.
Done.
Oh, who's this bitch?
joe rogan
But now he can think.
Now the poor little guy can think.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
She wants to eat my fruit.
Fuck out of here.
It's my fruit, bitch.
greg fitzsimmons
She wants to talk about that star that was shining last night, because that was entertainment back then.
joe rogan
But it's an even weirder dance for a girl, because a girl has to figure out whether or not this guy is going to be around, right?
She's going to let this guy shoot one inside of her.
And then what if she gets pregnant, and now this asshole, she has to rely on him?
Is he going to be around?
He's a sloth.
There's going to be a lot of time where she has to dedicate to taking care of this kid.
Maybe she can hold down a full-time job.
Maybe she can't.
But there's a lot of fucking resources that need to be dedicated towards raising these children.
Is someone going to help?
Am I going to be doing this on my own?
Women have to be really fucking careful.
Really careful.
Imagine if guys got pregnant every time we fucked.
Oh my god.
I had a joke about that.
Abortion would be an app on your phone.
Because it would.
unidentified
If we got pregnant, the fuck out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, morning after pills would just be on the bedside table every morning.
joe rogan
They'd be everywhere.
They'd give them to you at hotels.
Like, they'd leave mints on the bed.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Chocolates.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'd leave fucking plan B pills.
greg fitzsimmons
There would be no kids.
joe rogan
Zero kids.
Yeah, there'd be two of us.
greg fitzsimmons
Women love children.
They're nurturing.
They're capable.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
We're like, what?
joe rogan
Some women.
But some women don't want to get boxed into that either.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And some guys don't want to.
Look, I love being a father.
I know you love being a father.
But I have friends, like a bunch of them, that have vasectomies.
They don't want to have kids.
Fuck that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
That's okay.
It's all okay.
There's plenty of people.
greg fitzsimmons
It's great that you know you don't.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I don't even know if you know you don't.
Because maybe you think you don't because you haven't had it.
I mean, a kid will change the way your fucking brain works.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And a lot of times for the better.
It made me a way nicer person.
Way nicer.
It made me way more considerate of people's positions, too, because I used to think of people always as being static.
Like, oh, this is Greg.
He's 52. He's always been 52. This is what he is.
I know him.
I'm talking to him right now.
Now I look at people and I go, oh, Greg used to be a baby.
He was a baby.
What weird circumstances befell him?
What fucking weird pitfalls and traps and weird things entered into his life?
What weird people fucked him over?
What weird people lied to him, stole from him?
How did he get to be this bitter person?
I hate to use your name there.
I didn't mean you.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, why did I become the bitter guy?
joe rogan
You're not!
I realize halfway enough that I've created a scenario that's wholly unlike you.
But, you know, I think of people now in a different way.
I used to think of people, angry people, I used to think of them as, oh, fuck that idiot.
But now I go, oh, that fucking guy, he got fucked over.
He got fucked over.
That's most of them.
Most of them got fucked over.
And it could have been me.
Could have been me easily.
greg fitzsimmons
Or just have a bad chemical makeup.
Some people are just fucking ADHD and you think that they're not caring friends because they don't remember to call you or whatever.
It's like, that guy's trying to get his shoelace tied.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or maybe he's OCD and he can't wait to wash his hands again.
Or maybe he's got Alzheimer's and he can't remember whether he washed his hands.
greg fitzsimmons
Most people are trying their best.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I think a big part of what's wrong in this world is that we're dealing with a lot of communication that's not face-to-face.
unidentified
A lot of it.
joe rogan
A lot of it.
Whether it's, you know, he said, she said shit, where, like, you know, you have a problem with this guy, and then another guy tells you he said some shit about you.
What did he say?
Fuck that guy.
He said that?
I'll tell you what really happened.
Instead of, like, you being alone with that guy, well, what do you think happened?
Well, what I think happened is this and that.
And you're like, well, that's definitely not what happened because of this.
And then he's got to go, oh, I didn't know that.
Well, I didn't want to fuck you over.
I'm not trying to fuck you over.
Well, I thought you were.
Okay.
Well, now I understand why you were behaving the way you were behaving.
We're men here.
Let's talk.
I don't want any enemies.
I want friends.
greg fitzsimmons
Or let's yell a little bit, too.
joe rogan
Let's figure this out.
But so much of today...
That is excluded from the formula.
So much of today is people dealing with emails.
I had to put out a fire between two friends in an email recently.
One person was upset because they thought some person was doing something shitty to them.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not what happened.
Let me explain.
I'll do my best.
The whole reason anyone's having this conversation is because you guys weren't talking in front of each other.
You know, and then there's this wonder.
Like, how's that guy, what is he saying about me when I'm not around?
How does he feel about me?
Does he feel like he got over on me?
Does he feel like he, did he fuck me over?
Did he disrespect me?
So much of it is like we're not supposed to communicate any other way other than like you and I are doing right now.
Look at each other in the eyes.
I know you're not full of shit.
You know I'm not full of shit.
And we get to talk.
That's how people are supposed to communicate.
greg fitzsimmons
And you used to be in a little village where, you know, you just, if you had a problem, you talked to that person.
And if you were a shitty person, if you were acting shitty, everybody knew you were shitty.
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
And you got a little bit ostracized for it.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes, definitely.
greg fitzsimmons
There was correction, and gossip was healthy.
A little bit of gossip was good.
It was like going, hey, that's Bill.
He rapes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
That's the gossip today.
joe rogan
This guy likes to get five pounds of ground beef stuffed up his ass.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
I don't know why.
greg fitzsimmons
Do you need to fart?
Because Johnny over there, he'll give you five bucks if you fucking throw one in his face.
joe rogan
He likes it.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's getting a beat off while you fart.
That's it?
That's what he likes.
He doesn't want you to touch him.
Just fart in his face.
And then kick him in the balls.
You ever watch those videos of guys that like getting kicked in the balls?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I've seen that.
joe rogan
I mean, they really get kicked in the balls.
Like, hard.
Stomped.
greg fitzsimmons
You could die from that.
joe rogan
Guys get their balls stomped with stilettos.
That's a really common thing.
They're getting stomped.
Guys lose testicles.
I know a guy who lost a testicle because he got kicked, and he didn't have a cup on, and he was sparring.
He's like, I'll do one more round.
So he spars, and he gets slammed in the fucking sack with a shin, and his testicle burst.
Burst.
And these guys are just letting some chick stomp on him with a stiletto heel.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I was fucking around with Dave Vada one time when I was in like 10th grade, and we were wrestling around, and he reached down and grabbed my balls really hard and squoze them like a fucking knife.
He was a little bit of a nut.
And I remember laying on the ground for like 10 minutes being in like the most severe pain I've ever been in my life.
joe rogan
Dude, I thought I was sterile for a long time.
greg fitzsimmons
Because of getting kicked in the balls?
joe rogan
I've been kicked in the balls at least a hundred times.
Hard.
By black belts.
Like, I've been kicked in the balls, dude.
Like, many, many, many times.
greg fitzsimmons
Were they trying to kick you in the balls?
joe rogan
No.
No, you clash.
Like, say if you're throwing a kick with your right leg, and I'm throwing a kick with my right leg, and we throw them at the same time, and we're moving weird, sometimes it just goes right in the sack.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes a kick will deflect.
Someone will be hitting you and you're trying to hit them in the chest, but inadvertently they catch part of your leg and it redirects it right towards their balls.
greg fitzsimmons
Cups don't really cover your balls.
joe rogan
They do.
New ones do.
There's a company called Diamond MMA and I wear their cup when I do jiu-jitsu.
It's a compression short with all these straps built in and this cup that It's got a more flexible foam rubber on the outside, and then a very hard rubber that covers the outside edge, and a very hard rubber that covers the sack and the dick.
And then it fits very snugly to your body, and you can get kicked in the balls pretty hard with those on.
Yeah, it's a giant improvement.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when I was a kid, we didn't have that.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
We had a cup that slid into a jockstrap and it barely held in place.
And one time, I was in a tournament, and I got kicked in the balls so fucking...
And I was pretty sure this guy did it on purpose.
He was a mean fuck.
I was fighting this Korean dude.
He was very good and very mean.
And I'm pretty sure he kicked me in the balls on purpose.
Because I punched him in the face on purpose right afterwards.
I was pretty sure.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But my ball, my cup slammed into my ball.
So the cup did worse than protect me, than not protect me.
It actually became a weapon against my ball.
So the cup slammed into my ball.
My ball swole up.
It was awful.
It was so...
greg fitzsimmons
What were those cups protecting?
Pretty much your shaft, but not your balls.
joe rogan
They do protect your balls a little bit under the ideal circumstances.
Like something comes at it straight on and it hits the cup.
It's way better to hit the cup than it is to hit your balls by themselves.
It's definitely better.
But...
greg fitzsimmons
It's like a bicycle helmet.
joe rogan
They made Taekwondo cups that we used to wear on the outside that were even better because you'd wear them.
You'd have your pants on, your gi pants, and then you would put the cup on over the pants.
They were more sturdy, and they would tie on.
They would hold them in place.
It was a little more material there, so it would cover your junk better.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But still.
Sack.
It's just a fucking terrible design.
greg fitzsimmons
It is a bad design.
joe rogan
Balls on the outside.
greg fitzsimmons
Dangling in midair.
Just waiting to be hurt.
You ever sit on your ball?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You ever cut your dick in a zipper?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Never?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
greg fitzsimmons
We're underwear.
joe rogan
I've gone fucking commando before and caught my dick in a zipper.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like...
greg fitzsimmons
The crown?
joe rogan
No, the shaft.
Somewhere in the side of the shaft.
I caught it in the zipper.
It was bleeding.
Ugh.
greg fitzsimmons
No sex for a while after that?
joe rogan
Yeah, because then you have to explain.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what's on your dick?
Fucking caught it in the zipper.
You fucking liar!
You fucking lie.
You're going to give me a disease.
unidentified
You're such a piece of shit.
greg fitzsimmons
That's why they invented button fly.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably, right?
I think button fly was first.
greg fitzsimmons
Was it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think the old Levi's, I think they were all button fly.
They hadn't figured out zippers yet.
Yeah.
Like zippers, like, let's guess.
When do you think they invented the zipper?
I want to say like the 1800s.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I thought the original Levi jeans had zippers.
joe rogan
Don't think so.
greg fitzsimmons
No?
joe rogan
I think that's why they called them the original button fly.
unidentified
Ah.
joe rogan
Right?
Like 501s?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Original 501 jeans?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Button flies?
greg fitzsimmons
I remember dry humping.
I was a fucking dry humper in junior high school, man.
joe rogan
Dry humping machine?
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, I would go all night.
I would get it.
I was gifted.
And you know, you try to get your cock right in the middle there.
unidentified
Right in the spot.
greg fitzsimmons
Right in the spot.
And then I was perfect.
And I remember one time getting a scab.
It got so raw, I had a scab on it.
joe rogan
Jesus, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you nut from dry humping?
greg fitzsimmons
A couple times.
But I was pretty restrained.
joe rogan
If you dry hump, the right way to do it is with silk pajamas.
No underwear.
greg fitzsimmons
Nice.
joe rogan
If I could go back in time, I would talk to my old self.
Hey, dickhead.
Why are you wearing these corduroys?
greg fitzsimmons
You're showing up at some girl's house.
She's in 8th grade.
Dad answers the door.
Why are you wearing silk pajama pants?
joe rogan
I'm just really into silk.
Reading a lot about trade with China.
greg fitzsimmons
Is Irene here?
She comes downwards.
joe rogan
Are you wearing underwear, you piece of shit?
What?
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
You think I'm stupid?
I'm married.
I have children.
I've had sex, you little fuck.
I know what you're doing.
You want to dry hump my kid.
greg fitzsimmons
She comes down and she's wearing silk pajamas.
unidentified
What the fuck is going on here?
joe rogan
No way.
Get out of here.
greg fitzsimmons
Dry humping, man.
joe rogan
The good old days.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember when you grab a titty?
You were so happy.
I can't believe I'm holding a tit.
greg fitzsimmons
Outside the shirt.
I was happy.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Outrageous.
Yeah.
You were so happy.
Like, this is so much better than not holding a tit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's as good as it gets.
greg fitzsimmons
And then if you were a girl, I felt bad for girls back then because how annoying would it be that somebody's just grabbing- My wife must know what we're talking about.
joe rogan
Just call me right now.
greg fitzsimmons
That you're just grabbing their tit and you can't stop.
Like, she's got her bra and you wedged your hand under her bra and you're just grabbing, just squeezing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
That's not pleasurable for her.
joe rogan
No.
No.
Definitely not.
greg fitzsimmons
But they did it.
joe rogan
Maybe she did like it.
Maybe she just liked the fact that she's naughty.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So naughty.
greg fitzsimmons
I couldn't fathom that girls were enjoying fooling around for a long time.
I really thought that they were just being nice.
joe rogan
Dude, I couldn't imagine that girls liked boys.
Like, why do you even like me?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, why do you like boys?
Boys are so gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I remember being a kid thinking that, man...
I'm so happy that girls like boys, but I don't understand it.
It doesn't make sense.
Why would they like us?
We don't have any of the good things that they have.
They have tents.
They get wet.
greg fitzsimmons
They're pretty.
We're dirty.
joe rogan
We're gross.
They wear makeup.
We don't.
We're gross.
greg fitzsimmons
We're stupid.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're dumb as fuck.
We are dumber, too.
Like, the whole process of men developing and getting testosterone and going through the whole cycle of adulthood, it's just a fact that women mature quicker.
They're smarter at an earlier age.
So when you're 15, you gotta have a 14-year-old girlfriend.
Because if you have a 15-year-old girlfriend, she's like, you fucking idiot.
Gotta get someone smarter.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If I get someone smarter.
Like, how many guys who are 18 have a 17-year-old girlfriend?
A lot.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But how many guys who are 18 have a 19-year-old girlfriend?
19-year-old girls don't want to have anything to do with an 18-year-old moron.
greg fitzsimmons
No.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
They're smarter already.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're looking for a 22-year-old.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
No, it's so true.
My daughter said that.
She's like, I can't.
She goes, I can't even talk to guys my age.
Yes!
joe rogan
She wants a couple of ages.
They're smarter.
They don't have to go through that whole testosterone thing.
All you're thinking about is getting rid of loads.
You're barely thinking about anything else.
Studying in school.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
unidentified
Jesus.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it was pretty much playing sports and having an orgasm.
That was high school.
joe rogan
Yes.
And as soon as you found out about orgasms, sports took a backseat.
A big backseat.
I used to do a bit about that.
My dad was like, hey, how come you're not playing baseball anymore?
Yeah, I found this new thing.
And I'm way better at this.
I like it more.
It's more fun.
greg fitzsimmons
I always win.
Every game.
joe rogan
Every time you come, you win.
unidentified
Yay!
joe rogan
The crowd cheers.
It's like Trump.
Make America great again.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
See, if you come, you win.
You win.
As long as the girl's not mad at you.
If you come, the girl's like, what the fuck?
You're like, oh, shit.
Now my good moment is done.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah.
It has to be well placed.
joe rogan
Dude, it's already 6 p.m.
Believe it or not.
greg fitzsimmons
Jesus Christ, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's wrap this bitch up.
Greg, tell everybody where you're going to be.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
With your hilarious stand-up comedy.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm going to be at the Punchline in San Francisco this weekend.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
One of my favorite clubs of all time.
greg fitzsimmons
It's the best.
And then I'm coming up.
I'm going to be in Kansas City after that.
And then I'm going to be in Denver, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Atlantic City.
Go to Fitzdog.com.
Get all your tickets for all those places.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
See you tomorrow, folks.
Bye, everybody.
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