Sept. 4, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| These are pretty cool. | ||
| And we're live. | ||
| Hello, Steve. | ||
| Yeah, that's the Kanye one. | ||
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Nice. | |
| That's the most recent. | ||
| That's this guy Plasticell. | ||
| Fong Tran. | ||
| He creates all these. | ||
| He hand paints each one. | ||
| They're really nice. | ||
| Yeah, he sculpts it. | ||
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Very nice. | |
| And then he makes like a mold. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he's got a bunch of dope ones. | ||
| It's all on his line. | ||
| And you got a book, bro. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Color of Noise. | ||
| Blue the Color of Noise, yeah. | ||
| What's this about? | ||
| It's my memoir. | ||
| It talks about the beginnings. | ||
| It goes through my process. | ||
| It goes through a lot of different things. | ||
| I mean, at the end of the day, it's a memoir. | ||
| It's less about what's happening now. | ||
| And more about like how I got there, you know, the story and different piecemeal stories that are thematic and, you know, with this overarching idea of blue, which is like the different shades of blue of my life. | ||
| It's my favorite color and actually my last name means blue tree. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so it's like, there's a lot of synergy with the color. | ||
| So when I was coming up with the idea to name the book, you know, I had to think of like, you know, something that relates throughout my whole life. | ||
| So there's so many different shades, emotions, feelings that are represented in all these different stories. | ||
| Have you always been a writer? | ||
| I'm like a, yeah, I guess like a piecemeal writer. | ||
| I needed help finishing this book. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| I had so much. | ||
| It's like, you know, because I'm still like, you know, of the pen and paper still. | ||
| You know, like I grew up before computers and all that stuff. | ||
| When I was writing lyrics for my bands, it was always like a notepad. | ||
| So I had just so many different stories. | ||
| I didn't know how to put it all together. | ||
| I started the inception of writing these different stories of my life six years ago and then I shot a documentary for Netflix and we dropped it. | ||
| It's called I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. | ||
| We dropped it three years ago, four years ago. | ||
| 2015, 2016 I think. | ||
| And after I saw the reception and how people responded to the doc, then I knew that, like, you know, this is really going to take shape. | ||
| This is going to be front and center's finishing and writing a proper memoir. | ||
| So the idea of writing about yourself is only to write this memoir? | ||
| It's not like you write on a regular basis? | ||
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No. | |
| I am actually coming up with some new ideas for the next conception of what I would put out there in book form. | ||
| Because it's a different process for me that's quite exciting. | ||
| The challenge to do something like this. | ||
| My natural way to express myself is through music. | ||
| And, and I love being able to step outside my comfort zones. | ||
| I think at the end of the day, when you do that enough, you just, you just get better as a human being. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And try, you know, if you always do the same thing over and over again, you're never really learning. | ||
| So it's, it's, it's been like a great learning process, you know, putting out this memoir and, and, and, And like actually opening up this vulnerable side to who I am that I don't necessarily – I don't talk about really. | ||
| For people that know me, like my fans or my music fans or anyone else that knows Steve Aoki, they don't really know what's in this book. | ||
| They might have a glimpse of it from my documentary, which I did, because I talk really deeply about my relationship with my father and this drive that I have as a kid to make it. | ||
| And it shows you enough where it's, okay, now I have a little bit more than... | ||
| My live shows and what's already out there. | ||
| But this goes, you know, obviously a lot deeper because it's a book and we're going through emotions and the vulnerability. | ||
| And I want to tell stories of the hardships. | ||
| And at the end of the day, I want to speak to young kids out there, young people out there, even older people that are trying to figure their own thing out. | ||
| And because the documentary related in so many ways on a personal level, That I shared there. | ||
| This is how I wanted to share that through my own words. | ||
| Do you find that writing these things down and just thinking about your life and trying to express it in a way that's going to resonate with people, that this helps you think about it and helps you sort of Categorize it and put it all in your head. | ||
| Do you know Eddie Wong? | ||
| Do you know who that is? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| A famous chef? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Definitely, yeah. | |
| A friend of mine, great guy, and writes every day. | ||
| And I asked him why. | ||
| I'm like, why are you writing? | ||
| Because he's written books, but he writes to sort of collect his own thoughts. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| 100%. | ||
| It's like once you, that's the trigger for me because even when I read, I write right after. | ||
| Like what I gain from it. | ||
| Almost like it's like my note, my homework. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For retention on what I gather or take away from what I'm reading. | ||
| So I'm always like reading and writing or writing and scribbling in my book or like writing off the side in a notepad or like now, like a tablet or something. | ||
| But it's like you need to gather your headspace so you have retention. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You write to understand. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you write to express it so that other people can understand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And in that process, you can understand yourself better. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's how Eddie described it. | ||
| And when he said it to me, I was like, God damn it, I don't write enough like that. | ||
| I write more... | ||
| Comedy stuff, trying to write material and essays on things and pull jokes out of them. | ||
| But I think there's probably a great benefit for anybody to just sort of write about your thoughts. | ||
| Dear diary. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, there's something to that because in that time, I mean, you could speak to this because you've written a book on yourself, but in that time of writing about yourself and reflecting upon your life, you probably learn a little bit about who you are and why you're the way you are. | ||
| Yeah, and, you know, thinking about this, I never really thought about it to this point or found the parallel here, but when I started seeing a therapist to go into my past and try to break down what, like, why I make the decisions I do or, like, why I spiral out here or do something that I am not comfortable with or I want to change, a lot of that I'm able, like, after these sessions, I go and start writing, you know? | ||
| And then a lot of that, you know, eventually makes it in the book. | ||
| Do you write longhand or do you write on a keyboard? | ||
| I would do both. | ||
| Now I do both, but I have scribbles of stuff everywhere. | ||
| At the end of the day, for organizational purposes, I've got to put it in the computer. | ||
| Yeah, this is my own therapy. | ||
| As you could say, it is putting all these stories and these memories and the feelings and the emotions and the hardships or whatever it might be. | ||
| I think the hardest part is picking the right ones at the end of the day. | ||
| When you put all this stuff together and you spend so much time on this, do you find that the process of that in any way enhances your music? | ||
| Yes, it does because, I mean, when I think about – first of all, when I think about the process of making music, I think about it very similar to what you're doing when you write for your comedy skits and you're efficient. | ||
| You're like, okay, this is going to work because I'm going to be able to – Share it this way. | ||
| You're not just writing your thoughts down. | ||
| When I'm in the studio, I'm very efficient. | ||
| I'm going to make a club banger just for the festival so the crowds go crazy. | ||
| And it's less about the emotional message. | ||
| With this, being able to talk about that side, that adds that other layer. | ||
| That I'm seeing now more than ever in the last three or four years when I started making songs with lyrics that actually I've seen the fans come out in droves saying how much it's gotten them through hard times. | ||
| Because the lyrics were able to speak to them a certain way. | ||
| And that's the essence of collaboration at the end of the day. | ||
| Working with songwriters and singers. | ||
| And being able to be pulled in that direction is incredible. | ||
| As an artist. | ||
| Instead of just having like, alright, we're making this record to make everyone go crazy. | ||
| Even though, essentially, electronic dance music is all about the music. | ||
| It's not about the touching lyrics. | ||
| They might be... | ||
| The flavoring on top, but the foundation is all about the beat. | ||
| But now it's about mixing both worlds as much as possible. | ||
| At the end of the day, when you think about my shows, it's a very full-on experience. | ||
| When I put on a show, I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to compound all the senses, you know? | ||
| I want it to be entertaining as hell. | ||
| I want it to be fun, engaging. | ||
| I want you to leave knowing that you saw Steve Aoki's show. | ||
| So that's why I try to do different, unique things like, you know, I cake people. | ||
| I don't know if you know this, but I cake people at my shows. | ||
| Cake them? | ||
| Like you hit them in the head with cakes? | ||
| Yeah, I would say the head, but this is all consensual, by the way. | ||
| I'll give you a little story of this. | ||
| I think as you are on the stage all the time, you want to make your skits, you want to make everything that you do unique to Joe Rogan. | ||
| You don't want to be like, oh yeah, he's a copy of this person. | ||
| No one wants to be that. | ||
| So I'm thinking, what am I going to do that's going to be unique and different, engaging, Hey! | ||
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Ho! | |
| You know, like everyone's doing that. | ||
| Everyone sit down. | ||
| Everyone jump. | ||
| So, you know, I'm like, you know, your brain's always thinking. | ||
| So I got an idea after a song that I released on my label. | ||
| I have my own label. | ||
| And we released this artist where the video was cakes exploding in people's faces. | ||
| Super slow motion, high def, really beautiful. | ||
| And then I was like, you know what? | ||
| I'm going to go to a bakery. | ||
| I'm going to buy a cake, scribble the song on the top of the cake, and let's just see what happens. | ||
| It'll be a funny little thing. | ||
| This is 2011, mind you. | ||
| So this is seven years or however long ago that was. | ||
| A long time ago. | ||
| I didn't do the math. | ||
| Anyway, so it was a long time ago, and I walked around the front of the stage, and one of the kids in the front, one of the guys in the front was just like, Why is he walking around the front? | ||
| Am I supposed to grab it? | ||
| And then he just starts pointing at his face and then all his friends around him are pointing at him. | ||
| And the whole place was just staring and waiting and watching and wondering what the hell is going to happen. | ||
| So I caked him. | ||
| We filmed it. | ||
| This is pre-Instagram. | ||
| Put it up on YouTube. | ||
| It's like, I gotta do this every show. | ||
| This is incredible. | ||
| And then six months later, people started coming out with cake me signs. | ||
| Six years later... | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| So six years later, I think I've caked over 15,000 people now. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Jeez, look at her go crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You hit it right in the mug too, dude. | ||
| Perfect shot. | ||
| I'll tell you, I mean, you know, it's just practice makes perfect, you know? | ||
| Yeah, you've thrown 15,000 cakes. | ||
| I guess you get a feel for it. | ||
| Look at her. | ||
| She's dancing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wiping it up. | ||
| Let me see one more time. | ||
| This is like, that was ultra. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| We have a cake rider. | ||
| We have very specific cakes that are, you know, at our show. | ||
| It's like a special Aoki cake. | ||
| What is in it? | ||
| The strange thing is there's not as much cake as you would think. | ||
| It's just like frosting. | ||
| So it just explodes everywhere. | ||
| So it's less bread. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So less carbs, more sugar. | ||
| If you're diabetic, just get out of the front row, please. | ||
| What a crazy thing for people to enjoy, too. | ||
| Getting caked in the face. | ||
| That lady was having a good fucking time. | ||
| That's the most important thing at the end of the day. | ||
| Look at this cake made with a bullseye! | ||
| Okay, this is very normal for me to see. | ||
| In some cases, there's like 50 people with signs up. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| Look at that cake face. | ||
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I want cake in my face. | |
| It's a signature part of the show. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's exciting. | ||
| Dude, I need to go to one of your shows. | ||
| Because everybody that I know that's been says it's a wild experience. | ||
| It's not just music. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| There's something... | ||
| You're doing something transformative. | ||
| People come out of there. | ||
| They're just like, woo! | ||
| They're buzzing. | ||
| They're flying. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| And if I feel like I'm doing that, if I feel like I'm really having this impact... | ||
| Then I go... | ||
| That's why I end up doing so many shows. | ||
| Because on average, I'm doing about 250 shows around the world every year. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| And I do this... | ||
| I've done this consistently for over 12 years. | ||
| So it's not like an artist that just drops an album and then they tour around the world for a year or two. | ||
| I'm on a worldwide tour... | ||
| Every single year. | ||
| Is that sustainable? | ||
| How's your body holding up? | ||
| I know you work out a lot. | ||
| I know you're really into health and wellness and all that stuff, but that seems insane, particularly with all the travel. | ||
| It does. | ||
| I mean, you have to treat yourself like an athlete, that's for sure. | ||
| The way I think about my regimen is different, and I'm obsessed with trying out new ideas and Using myself as a guinea pig to work with different scientists, | ||
| sleep doctors, different people in various fields that are testing new ideas to deal with jet lag or things that I'm dealing with that are on the road that can wear you down and make it not sustainable. | ||
| Do you do IVs? | ||
| Like stem cell? | ||
| No, like vitamin drips or anything like that? | ||
| Not as... | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| But I... At one point, I wasn't down the same road as Ray Kurzweil doing 250 vitamins a day, but I was probably experimenting with about 50. Have you met him? | ||
| I have. | ||
| He's an interesting dude. | ||
| Yes, he is. | ||
| He's quite a trip. | ||
| Behind his eyes, there's a lot going on. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So I have a whole album series called Neon Future. | ||
| So I have Neon Future 1, 2, and 3 that just came out, my albums in each album. | ||
| I actually work with a scientist on a song. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So I had Ray Kurzweil on one. | ||
| So he's talking on a song about life expansion, life extension. | ||
| I'm a big fan of the idea that we can live indefinitely. | ||
| I'm an enthusiast of that world. | ||
| I'm definitely not an expert, but I'm an enthusiast for sure. | ||
| And I got J.J. Abrams on two. | ||
| I got Aubrey de Grey on two. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| I've had him on as well. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, and I interviewed him. | ||
| I went to Ray Kurzweil's apartment in the Bay Area. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Yeah, so I know that we have a lot of synergies on the science and tech stuff. | ||
| And three, I had Bill Nye. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| And four, which is coming out next year, I'm having my favorite author on the album that I've read so far. | ||
| So I'm very excited to have him. | ||
| I might as well announce it here if I'm going to announce it anywhere. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I haven't announced it yet. | ||
| But Yuval Harari. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Sapiens is amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sapiens is my favorite book. | ||
| I'm on the second one right now. | ||
| Yeah, I just finished Homo Davis and, I mean, he has a very, like, see, I think of the future very positively. | ||
| It's a neon future. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't think of it so rosy. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, I like his analysis and, you know, the way he's trying to understand how we've evolved or pushed outwards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I agree with a lot of what he's saying. | ||
| Well, a lot of what he's saying is irrefutable, but what's interesting is the way he sort of coalesces it, the way he combines it all, and you really get a sense of, wow, this is what a person is. | ||
| Like, this is how it all went down, you know? | ||
| He's a brilliant guy, too. | ||
| I've seen him interviewed. | ||
| Really fascinating character, you know? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And Aubrey de Grey's a trippy dude, too, because he drinks so much. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I've hung out with him, like, pint after pint. | ||
| I'm like, hey, man, aren't you supposed to be the fucking wellness longevity guy? | ||
| He's so entrenched in science that he thinks that the solutions are going to come through the laboratory. | ||
| He doesn't seem to exercise. | ||
| If he does, I think he just rows a boat. | ||
| Have you seen that? | ||
| He rows boats around the harbor, wherever he lives in England, and he drinks. | ||
| I think it's in his beard though. | ||
| The booze? | ||
| The beard. | ||
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The beard is his magical wizardry. | |
| Actually, that's against science. | ||
| But yeah, he's a very interesting guy. | ||
| I have a foam pit in my house. | ||
| He jumped in my foam pit watching a 50-year-old man with a beard below his nipples jump into a foam pit. | ||
| It's actually pretty cool. | ||
| That is cool. | ||
| A scientist as well. | ||
| It's cool that he's willing to be silly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| And I have the Aoki Foundation, which I'm wearing. | ||
| I'm obsessed with the human brain. | ||
| So all of our money that we raise goes to brain research organizations, brain science orgs, but also orgs that deal with anti-aging or anything that's interesting that relates to living longer, healthier lives, and one of which is the SENS org, which is Aubrey's org. | ||
| Have you ever heard – do you know who David Sinclair is? | ||
| Remind me. | ||
| He's a Harvard professor. | ||
| He's on the podcast next week. | ||
| He's been on before, but he is at the front of the line of anti-aging technology. | ||
| And the podcast I did with him was incredible. | ||
| He's a brilliant, brilliant guy. | ||
| Dealing with things like NMN and NAD and all these different... | ||
| Drip infusions and concoctions and molecules that lengthen telomeres, enhance the body's ability to regenerate and age much slower. | ||
| Really interesting stuff. | ||
| I mean, I love that stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So how did you get in this? | ||
| Because you're thinking about your own mind, or is this just something you've always been fascinated by? | ||
| I think it started after my father passed away, seeing the death of your father. | ||
| He died of cancer, but it started with hepatitis C from a boat accident he had in the late 70s. | ||
| The boat accident gave him Hep C. How did that happen? | ||
| Blood transfusion. | ||
| And then he, I mean, he was surviving with hep C for decades, changed his interferon and the things that were keeping him going before there's a vaccine or cure. | ||
| This is all before then. | ||
| I'm not sure if there is, but I'm almost positive there is. | ||
| Yeah, I think there is. | ||
| I think it's a very expensive, involved process. | ||
| But that, like, hurts, you know what I mean? | ||
| It's like someone dies close to you and then, like, something like that happens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this is all happening, right? | ||
| And I see him die, and I'm also like... | ||
| I think I know about health. | ||
| I'm vegetarian, this, that, and the other. | ||
| I'm sort of healthy. | ||
| But after I saw him die, I read books on cancer. | ||
| I started reading, trying to research, what could I have done to help my father? | ||
| And I still have people in my life that I absolutely love that I want to learn and share, like my mother, like anyone else that's close to me that's getting older. | ||
| And then it just, I just went on this like bender, like, you know, reading books on anti-aging and then, you know, I'm really big sci-fi nut. | ||
| So, if anything, I love living between the world of science fiction and science fact and finding out in that gray area what is going to be science fact. | ||
| In our, you know, as long as I'm alive. | ||
| You know, and there's a lot of things happening because I do agree with that curve that we are not moving at a linear rate. | ||
| You know, we are moving, I don't know if it's exponential, but it's definitely between linear and exponential. | ||
| With technology, with what we're learning in science and medicine. | ||
| And as I'm learning more about this stuff, my music career is also raising my platform as a personality is also getting raised. | ||
| So then now, I get to go and make a phone call to Ray and he'll answer. | ||
| And I could get to meet him. | ||
| And then I want to have fun, too. | ||
| So I'm like, let's make a song. | ||
| Let's do a video. | ||
| Let's do an interview. | ||
| So I created this whole Neon Future session so I could meet, you know, Stan Lee. | ||
| Rest in peace. | ||
| Like, I got to meet him, hang out with him, did an interview with him, took some photos. | ||
| Stan Lee? | ||
| Stan Lee Marvel. | ||
| Who's Stan Lee Marvel? | ||
| Stan Lee, the Marvel comics. | ||
| Oh, Stan Lee. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I'm just going across the board here. | ||
| I was like, who's Stan Lee Marvel? | ||
| I just went across the board of all the people outside of my music space that I can talk to. | ||
| Science people, science fiction people, J.J. Abrams, whoever it might be. | ||
| Even authors of books I've read like Richard Dawkins. | ||
| I flew to Oxford University and I sat with him. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| And I talked to him and he was like, I don't know why I'm here with you, but someone told me I should be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think I'm going to get the same response. | ||
| He's supposed to be coming on next month. | ||
| I'm really excited to talk to him. | ||
| Did you talk to him after his stroke? | ||
| No, this was... | ||
| I remember him riding his bike to the interview, which was kind of cool, seeing Richard Dawkins ride his bike. | ||
| It felt like Albert Einstein was coming at me or something, because he's kind of like that kind of... | ||
| Like, he has an allure with him. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| But that was 2015, 16, I think. | ||
| That sounds like around when he had a stroke. | ||
| Okay, I mean, I actually wouldn't. | ||
| Find out when he had a stroke. | ||
| He's recovered very well though, apparently. | ||
| He still has some residual issues. | ||
| Oh wow, so this is definitely pre-stroke. | ||
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May 2016? | |
| Yeah, so this is pre-stroke. | ||
| Pre-stroke, pre-stroke. | ||
| The crazy thing is I did all these interviews with all these different people. | ||
| Didn't actually post them up online. | ||
| Why? | ||
| We did two with Wired Magazine. | ||
| We did the one with Ray Kurzweil and the one with Stan Lee. | ||
| And I had the rest lined up. | ||
| But we wanted to present them the right way. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| You're great on the internet. | ||
| Jamie's the best. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Is that in his office? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oxford University gave us this room. | ||
| And I took it over. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| With him. | ||
| When you talked to Kurzweil, did you get into his idea of being able to download consciousness? | ||
| No, we didn't get that far, but I would love for you to tell me more about that. | ||
| It's a weird one, because we went to this, I think it's called a 2045 conference in New York City, and the idea behind it is that they think that somewhere around 2045, There's going to be some sort of a technological singularity with the exponential growth or perceived exponential growth, | ||
| whatever it is, the leaping, the new innovation, creating these new possibilities that somewhere around 2045, there's going to be So many changes and so many new innovations that they believe they're going to be able to put your consciousness either into some sort of a hard drive, some sort of a quantum computer, or perhaps even a physical embodiment of a Steve Aoki. | ||
| Like you have an artificial Steve Aoki. | ||
| Like a sleeve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then your actual brain inside this thing. | ||
| So as your body dies, now you will exist in this... | ||
| Whatever the fuck it's made out of. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, and he thinks he's going to be able to do that. | ||
| You know, he's got a really bizarre motivation, too. | ||
| His father died when he was young, and he didn't really get to know him that well. | ||
| And he has all these images and all these... | ||
| And he thinks that he is going to be able to, in some way, shape, or form, recreate his father and have some sort of... | ||
| A reasonable facsimile? | ||
| Yeah, like a way to communicate with his dad. | ||
| With all the memories that he has of his father, all the video and images, and actually recreate his father to have a communication with him. | ||
| It's very weird stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think a lot of these, those storylines get drawn out in sci-fi. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because that's essentially where we want, like, we want to go without any issues and problems and backfire. | ||
| And no, like, Black Mirror episode, you know, kind of blunder. | ||
| Because, I mean, we are definitely going in that direction. | ||
| We're going somewhere weird, for sure. | ||
| We're 100% going there, and there's no stopping it. | ||
| No way, yeah. | ||
| Everyone's buying new phones and new technology, and we're pushing it as far as we can. | ||
| There was a guy, I think it's from the University of Connecticut. | ||
| He is the preeminent researcher on time travel, and he is right out of a fucking Spider-Man comic book. | ||
| His dad died when he was young. | ||
| Same sort of situation. | ||
| And he wanted to figure out a way to go back in time and save his dad. | ||
| So he's literally trying to come up with a workable theory for time travel. | ||
| That's the gentleman. | ||
| What is his name? | ||
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Dr. Ron Mallet. | |
| Yeah, Dr. Ron Mallet. | ||
| And it's right now, I mean, he's got a working theory, but it becomes a matter of having enough energy to actually pull this off. | ||
| But the idea behind it was all inspired by his father dying, and he thinks he's going to be able to, or someone may, be able to go back in time. | ||
| But what he believes now— Well, when you hear stories like this, right? | ||
| When you hear the story, because I know this is like what you do. | ||
| You get to talk to all these people. | ||
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| Do you believe them to a certain extent? | ||
| Because for me, I need the scientific understanding. | ||
| I'm not too much into the paranormal. | ||
| I need to understand to see if this actually is conclusive. | ||
| Well, I think he found out something unfortunate in that the idea – As far as time travel as we know it will only exist from the time the time machine is invented forward and backward to that moment. | ||
| The idea like Terence McKenna described it the idea that you cannot travel where there are no roads and so once a road is established then things get really fucked up because if you create a time machine At least in terms of what they understand or what Dr. Mallet believes about time travel right now, and I hope I'm not butchering. | ||
| I'm sure I'm butchering it, but I hope I'm not butchering it too bad. | ||
| You can only travel back to the moment the first time machine is invented. | ||
| So once that door is open, then time ceases to become linear. | ||
| The end of time till the invention of the time machine happens all at once. | ||
| Because anyone can come back to that moment. | ||
| Because the time machine exists now. | ||
| It's made, so of course they're going to innovate. | ||
| Anyone in the future is going to innovate. | ||
| These people that do innovate are going to have a much superior version of this time machine. | ||
| And everyone is going to be able to go back to the moment that the time machine is invented in any point along the way. | ||
| From the end of time to the beginning of time. | ||
| From the moment that time machine is invented. | ||
| So in that case, if that really is the case, has a time machine been invented? | ||
| I don't think it has. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, I could be wrong. | ||
| But what's your thoughts? | ||
| I think everything is going to be completely fucking gonzo. | ||
| You're going to have people appearing and disappearing and showing up and going. | ||
| And it's a normal thing. | ||
| It's like, oh yeah, he's traveling through time. | ||
| Not only that, like all events. | ||
| But would you know that? | ||
| If it was a World War V 100 years from now, and you were like, fuck this, I'm going back in time 100 years before World War V, and I'm just going to live there. | ||
| And they decide to do that, or World War III, or World War IV. They just keep going back in time, and forward in time. | ||
| You could go... | ||
| If you had a time machine, and the time machine was... | ||
| Again, I'm butchering this, I'm a moron, I'm not a scientist. | ||
| If you had a time machine and time machines existed from now until, you know, the perceivable end of the lifespan of the earth, right? | ||
| When the sun supernovas and there's no more life left on earth, you could kind of go anywhere you want from now to a million years from now as long as there's a place to go. | ||
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| As long as there's a time machine available. | ||
| And the idea is that time as we know it will cease to exist because our time now is dependent on, you know, our biological entities waking up, moving forward. | ||
| What time is it? | ||
| Oh, it's 3. My meeting's at 5. Better hurry over to downtown. | ||
| Traffic's rough this time of day. | ||
| All that stuff's going to be nonsense if there's time machines because you're just going to be able to move anywhere you want at any point in time. | ||
| Sounds ridiculous, but so does the internet. | ||
| If you brought the internet up to some guy who lived in Victorian times and say, look at this, this is my phone, and you can ask it a question, it'll give you all the answers, anything you want. | ||
| That would be the most astounding form of witchcraft ever invented. | ||
| And now my 11-year-old daughter has one of those. | ||
| She asks that thing questions all the time. | ||
| She gets answers to stuff all the time that we used to have to go to a library for. | ||
| She could watch videos that just come out of the air. | ||
| That's magic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we're accustomed to it. | ||
| We adapt very easily. | ||
| So the idea is that what this would do is change every aspect of reality as we know it. | ||
| In terms of linear time, it would no longer exist. | ||
| Would only those people that know how to use a machine have access to it? | ||
| Well, I mean, wouldn't it be like cell phones? | ||
| Eventually everybody gets one. | ||
| And we're talking about time, right? | ||
| So if everybody gets access to it a year from now or three years from now, it doesn't matter because the time machine's already been invented so they can travel back to that moment and forward from that moment. | ||
| So the moment they turn that fucker on, everything goes haywire. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So let's not turn that thing on. | ||
| It's inevitable. | ||
| People press buttons. | ||
| Well, they want to see if they can even make that happen. | ||
| I used to have a bit that I used to do about the Big Bang because they were – everyone has always tried to figure out like what was the universe like before the Big Bang? | ||
| Like what happened? | ||
| How was it created? | ||
| And when you look at the progress of technology, my thought was that if you look at where we're going and we're constantly innovating and people are constantly coming up with new and more impressive forms of technology, that one day we're going to create a big bang machine. | ||
| And that this is what happens. | ||
| Every five billion years or so... | ||
| And things get so intelligent, they develop a big bang machine. | ||
| And they sit around, these dudes are on Red Bull and Xanax. | ||
| Simulation. | ||
| And one guy goes, I'll fucking press it. | ||
| And he hits the button and BOOM! The whole universe starts all over again. | ||
| And if you had a big bang machine and you knew that if you pressed it, within five billion years, humans would create another big bang machine. | ||
| This is an endless cycle. | ||
| Would you press it? | ||
| Fucking for sure there's someone that would press that button. | ||
| There's 100% a person out there that would press that button. | ||
| I heard more about the simulation idea. | ||
| Well, that's another idea. | ||
| Elon believes that. | ||
| He believes that it's very possible. | ||
| One of the things they said, if you could ask AI, what would you ask? | ||
| He said, what's beyond the simulation? | ||
| He believes this is a simulation. | ||
| But if you're Elon Musk, of course you'd believe it's a simulation. | ||
| People are letting you drill tunnels under LA and shoot rockets off into space and you're making electric cars, fucking solar roof panels. | ||
| I mean, he's literally living like some character in a movie. | ||
| He's like Professor X or something. | ||
| Yeah, but if you're in a simulation, there's nothing you can do about it, right? | ||
| So you just might as well just do it all. | ||
| So it's a great way to think about life. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What is a simulation if everything is a simulation? | ||
| It's still life, right? | ||
| Like your existence is still everything you're accustomed to and everything you experience. | ||
| And if it is a simulation, at least some aspects of this are comfortably... | ||
| Or comfortingly obvious. | ||
| Work hard. | ||
| You can get better at things. | ||
| Be nice to people. | ||
| They're nice to you. | ||
| Be a good friend. | ||
| You get good friends. | ||
| Eat healthy food. | ||
| You're healthier. | ||
| There's some comfort to the lack of... | ||
| I mean, there's certainly some variables that are very difficult to account for, but there's also a surprising amount of life that's pretty straightforward. | ||
| So if it is a simulation, it's not the most difficult one to follow. | ||
| It's pretty crazy and chaotic, but there's a lot of comfort in it. | ||
| Like, as much as we try to dwell on the horrors of humanity, and certainly a lot of them, because God has a lot of beauty in people, too. | ||
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| And there's a lot of cool shit in people. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you focus on that, then there's real growth. | ||
| I was at the comedy store last night until like 2 o'clock in the morning in this comedians bar, just hanging out with all these comedians. | ||
| We're just laughing and talking and... | ||
| There's no audience, just a bunch of people that get paid to make people laugh. | ||
| Jon Stewart was back there, Michelle Wolf, and all these really funny comics. | ||
| We're all just laughing and having a great time and talking. | ||
| I was like, wow, this is so nice. | ||
| It's so fun. | ||
| It's rewarding. | ||
| There's cool things in this life. | ||
| If you can find good people and friends and And communicate and spread love and have interesting, fascinating, thought-provoking conversations. | ||
| There's a lot of really positive things. | ||
| So if this is a simulation, it's a pretty badass simulation for Steve Aoki. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| And for Joe Rogan, too. | ||
| Out there kicking people and shit, you know, making a brain foundation. | ||
| I mean, what a fucking great simulation you're in. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think, yeah, it's like you can make what you want of it. | ||
| I mean, it might not be the dream like the Elon Musk scenario right away, but it takes time to get there. | ||
| Well, you don't want that dream. | ||
| I don't want his dream. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| His dream's crazy. | ||
| Well, I mean, his dream of like, I mean, like you said, he's just like almost a superhero. | ||
| He's Bruce Wayne, you know, he's doing whatever, you know, he's Iron Man, you know? | ||
| Well, you know, some cars have small engines, right? | ||
| There's Honda Civics out there, and then there's fucking rocket cars. | ||
| He's got some sort of crazy quantum rocket car engine for a brain. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you talked to him? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| He's a trip. | ||
| He's actually on the list of people I would love to be in the studio with, to make music with, and just get into his mind a bit. | ||
| I've been putting that out there to the universe. | ||
| He's one of those guys that when you're talking to him, you have this feeling that he's running code in the background while he's talking to you. | ||
| I think he just gets bored with regular mundane conversations. | ||
| He's got 50 million things going on constantly. | ||
| He was talking to me about how difficult it is to manage his mind. | ||
| He's like, you wouldn't want to be me. | ||
| I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| He thought he was crazy when he was younger because so much was bouncing around in his head. | ||
| And he realized that other people weren't like that. | ||
| And he's like, oh, no. | ||
| I'm alone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, literally, he's probably alone. | ||
| Who the fuck is like that guy? | ||
| Right. | ||
| In terms of a public intellectual who's responsible for so many groundbreaking technologies, the number one electric car in the world, SpaceX tunneling under LA with a boring company. | ||
| He's a crazy man. | ||
| Thank God he's around though. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| People like that. | ||
| It's so cool to have a true outlier. | ||
| Someone who's just really out there. | ||
| Oh man, he's constantly attacked and maligned and people are misrepresenting him. | ||
| All the crabs in a bucket don't like it. | ||
| They're trying to pull him down. | ||
| He's too goddamn smart. | ||
| All these people that fancy themselves smart. | ||
| You meet that guy and you're like, oh. | ||
| Okay, there's levels to this game. | ||
| Yeah, no, he's like the top of my list, just to, you know, be in his presence. | ||
| But I think it would be very exciting to try to do a song with Elon Musk. | ||
| I'll ask him. | ||
| Well, after the podcast, send him a text message. | ||
| So he's probably busy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I could always make it as easy as possible. | ||
| Yeah, but just go to SpaceX or Tesla or wherever you're at. | ||
| So what in particular are you doing with this Brain Foundation? | ||
| I mean, I think one of the most important things is inspire people more about brain, the brain. | ||
| I mean, obviously it's to raise money for brain research orgs. | ||
| For one, finding cures for degenerative brain diseases. | ||
| Just understanding the brain more, working with orgs that want to understand the brain more so that we can expand what our limitations are in the conversations that we're talking about. | ||
| Bring some of the science fiction and the science fact. | ||
| I love this idea that telekinesis is when you can move things with your mind. | ||
| Isn't that possible? | ||
| It already is. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Not like in the supernatural sense, like Magneto. | ||
| It's like, you know, there's... | ||
| I mean, it's happened like five years ago, people moving wheelchairs with their... | ||
| With like... | ||
| Implanted things. | ||
| Implanted, yeah, exactly. | ||
| I'm not sure the right terms, but... | ||
| I've seen the videos, you know, like a monkey being able to move an arm to its mouth to eat the apple. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those happened in like 2013 or 14 or... | ||
| Fact check that, but it was not 2019. It was like years ago. | ||
| So whatever they're doing at DARPA, whatever they're doing at Google, whoever's got these research orgs and labs, I would love to jump in there and just put my ear out there and just listen and find out what's going on. | ||
| Because I have my own interest and passion on what the breakthroughs are. | ||
| And I would also love to try some of these things. | ||
| Do you think they'd let you? | ||
| Sometimes, I mean, listen, you've got to try. | ||
| I think Boston Dynamics might be your best bet. | ||
| The robot people? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They might let you in. | ||
| But DARPA's... | ||
| DARPA won't let me in, obviously. | ||
| They will not let me in. | ||
| You're going to have to sign some paperwork. | ||
| But I want to get in... | ||
| To as many doors as I can on any of this kind of stuff. | ||
| And that's like my own personal gain. | ||
| But also with the brain org, it's just the brain foundation. | ||
| It's just to help out the smaller orgs too that are, one, finding the cures. | ||
| Because at the end of the day, what I've learned is that if you don't die of cancer or heart disease, you're going to have a brain disease. | ||
| You're going to go crazy. | ||
| You're going to lose your memory. | ||
| You're going to deteriorate. | ||
| Yeah, and years down the line, we're going to be able to literally turn our body into a used car and change all the parts. | ||
| But if you start losing your memory, then you start losing who you are. | ||
| Did you talk to Kurzweil about this? | ||
| Yes, it was years ago. | ||
| So I'm trying to remember even like the interview that we did. | ||
| But I went in deep on a lot of the anti-aging stuff. | ||
| And I think the struggle that he's going to have is if he's going to make it to 2045. Because he's 70 or something, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he has a heart. | ||
| He has a genetic defect with his heart. | ||
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| But, I mean, he's just like one of those heroes of mine that was lucky to be in his space, you know, playing on his Kurzweil keyboard. | ||
| That he invented. | ||
| Yeah, the synthesizer. | ||
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| That was a moment. | ||
| We're both on the keys. | ||
| He invented speech-to-text, too, didn't he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's invented more than a hundred really significant inventions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fascinating guy. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But can we squeeze 25 more years out of him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, his biological life to get to 2045. Because if he's gonna, like, he's gonna be the one that's gonna really push that envelope hard. | ||
| I think he's, if there's anyone out there, that's why I'm, you know, it's clearly obvious why Google picked him up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and had him, like, head the whole, I forgot what the department's called, but, you know. | ||
| Well, didn't Google buy Boston Dynamics as well? | ||
| They bought a robot company. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| Which is like, what are you guys planning? | ||
| You can control everybody's email. | ||
| You have the number one search engine on the planet Earth. | ||
| You have the number one browser. | ||
| Like, what are you guys doing? | ||
| What are you doing over there? | ||
| You're making robots? | ||
| But don't you want to be in the room? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to be in the room, but some of their choices are a little bit questionable. | ||
| There's science, but then there's social decisions that they're making in terms of what people get to see and talk about and hear. | ||
| And a lot of it is based on the zeitgeist. | ||
| It's based on the current state of politically correct ideology. | ||
| What you can and can't say or can and can't do. | ||
| And that becomes really dangerous because you're kind of controlling information. | ||
| You're throttling information. | ||
| Like Tulsi Gabbard is suing Google for, what is it, like $50 million or something crazy like that? | ||
| They say that they purposely stifled her search engine results so that people wouldn't be able to find her as easily. | ||
| And she's apparently proven it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| So, it's not a pure information-based company. | ||
| There's ideology behind it. | ||
| There's motivations behind it that, you know, politically leaning motivations. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, so... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, when he goes into that world, I'm like, oh, you forget about that sometimes when you're like, I want to be in the breakthrough rooms, you know? | ||
| Well, there was an internal memo where they were referring to Ben Shapiro and someone else. | ||
| I think it was Jordan Peterson and maybe Dennis Prager as Nazis, which is hilarious because both Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager are both Jewish. | ||
| So it's like their perception of who a person is. | ||
| This was brought up This is brought up by people in Congress. | ||
| They had to have hearings on it. | ||
| Trying to figure out, what is Google doing? | ||
| How are you allowed to define people internally in your memos? | ||
| And then, of course, once you call someone a Nazi, then you can act as if they're a Nazi and stifle people. | ||
| Any sort of search on them or stifle results or point people in the direction that you think would be better for humanity versus just pure information. | ||
| And it gets very weird. | ||
| But as a technology company, look, they're amazing. | ||
| Just what they're doing with Android and Google Searching and Google Assistant and Google Maps is by far the superior map Right. | ||
| power. | ||
| It's too much power for one company to be able to influence people one way or the other. | ||
| So what's the Joe Rogan solution or something like that? | ||
| Regulations? | ||
| No, I'm too stupid for this. | ||
| I need to rely on people that have actually spent real time studying the effects and understand it from a very deep level. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I understand it. | ||
| I understand that it's problematic. | ||
| I just don't understand what the solution is, and I don't know if it's just a free distribution of information across the board, because then what do you do about actual Nazis? | ||
| Like, if there's a new Hitler, and he arises, and he really does want to exterminate the Jews, what happens there? | ||
| Do you just allow that guy to be on Google? | ||
| Is he on Google Hangouts with a little Nazi Hangout? | ||
| They're planning on exterminations, and where's the next Auschwitz? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think that shouldn't be the case. | ||
| So what is the case? | ||
| Do you allow white supremacists on there to organize rallies? | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Where does freedom of speech end? | ||
| Very complicated questions that we're all learning to navigate. | ||
| I think in many ways, and this is a weird thought that I have and I repeat it over and over again, but I think technology is going to provide us with a new way of communicating that's not dependent upon language, but rather can read actual intent. | ||
| Like, an actual mind-reading technology. | ||
| And when I see Elon's Neuralink, this thing that he's trying to do where they're opening up the bandwidth to humans and information through use of implants and some sort of a Bluetooth wearable device, like, that I think is like a step in that direction. | ||
| And I think Elon... | ||
| In many interviews, he said that he thinks that human beings are the organic biological bootloader for artificial intelligence. | ||
| So if we're a bootloader for AI, the way to sort of combat that... | ||
| A bootloader? | ||
| Bootloader, yeah. | ||
| Like a computer bootloading operating system. | ||
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| Gotcha, yeah. | ||
| That what we're doing is we're the biological... | ||
| The way I've described it is that we're sort of an electronic cocoon that's about to make the butterfly. | ||
| And that we're the caterpillar that's making the cocoon. | ||
| And we're constantly in pursuit of innovation. | ||
| And the butterfly is the AI? Yes. | ||
| The butterfly. | ||
| Like if you see a caterpillar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A caterpillar doesn't know what the fuck's going on. | ||
| It's just making a cocoon. | ||
| That's what it does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what it knows to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the idea is that we don't know what the fuck we're doing either. | ||
| Like, why do we need 5G? Is 4G not good enough? | ||
| Goddamn, I get on the internet pretty goddamn quick. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Well, it seems like 5G's better, and 6G will be better than 5G. And if you want to get that mind-reading software, you've got to get 7G. And we're going to do this to the point where one day there's going to be a real thing sitting in front of you. | ||
| But we will merge with the AI? Because that's the future that I hope for. | ||
| You don't lose yourself in that. | ||
| But are you yourself once you've merged with the AI? And then what's holding you back? | ||
| God, all these emotions are bullshit. | ||
| Let's get rid of those. | ||
| Let's just have pure people. | ||
| Pure people, now available through Nabisco. | ||
| It's interesting because my whole point with Neon Future is the convergence of, I mean, the ultimate goal is the convergence of technology and our humanity to the point where we live forever through this downloading system that we're talking about earlier on or whatever seemingly makes sense in the trajectory of where technology is going. | ||
| So we do live indefinitely. | ||
| I mean, that's like, for me as well, my insurance policy for if I don't make it to this point, like my dad didn't make it to that cure, is obviously cryogenically freezing the body. | ||
| You're going to do that? | ||
| Well, I'm already signed up. | ||
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| So, you know, because I feel like, I mean, if we are really, this discussion is, are we going to make it there in our timeline? | ||
| I'm 41, so I have a better chance than Ray Kurzweil, obviously. | ||
| And I really believe that, you know... | ||
| I guess it's hopeful that we'll get to this point in our generation that they'll make it. | ||
| But it's that close, right? | ||
| So either we make it, and then I die, and then everyone lives forever. | ||
| Do I want to be that generation of people that die, or the generation of people that go, oh, death is a cure we just found. | ||
| We found a cure for death, just like a cure for cancer, just like a cure for whatever. | ||
| What if... | ||
| After your biological body ceases to function, you move into a new realm of reality that is a completely different dimension that's filled with love and understanding. | ||
| Like the after death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no biological shortcomings. | ||
| There's no emotions and there's no fear. | ||
| None of that. | ||
| And there's no bodies. | ||
| You're a soul in another dimension. | ||
| And then someone unfreezes you. | ||
| Like, well, Steve wanted to be unfrozen. | ||
| Suck back in, cake people. | ||
| You're like, fuck, man. | ||
| I was there. | ||
| I was on the other side. | ||
| You'd be like, click, opt out. | ||
| No, I can't believe this. | ||
| And so then you go, well, I'll just die again. | ||
| Well, here's, okay, this is what I know, because I don't know, I mean, we both don't know what's really going to happen. | ||
| That's likely. | ||
| I mean, anything is likely, okay? | ||
| I'm not saying that, I'm not like, I don't believe in God, or I do believe in God. | ||
| I just don't know what's really happening afterwards. | ||
| But I know that... | ||
| What I've seen as me, what I understand of what's around me and my feelings is that if I wake up tomorrow or if someone I love wakes up tomorrow with an incurable disease that's going to kill them, it would be the most horrific thing. | ||
| And I think at the end of the day, the human race is going out to find cures for those kinds of situations. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Suffering. | ||
| Yeah, suffering, pain. | ||
| I mean, that's what we do. | ||
| We try to stop and elongate. | ||
| Our life. | ||
| Essentially, we all want to live indefinitely, you know, like through finding cures for all of these issues. | ||
| And we want to live healthily. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| You don't want to be in a wheelchair, like for 50 years, just like staring at a TV. Like Hawkins. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, which is... | ||
| But then again, like, maybe he found a silver lining. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But, you know, if you're healthy and moving, and then, boom, night and day, you're there. | ||
| Of course, that's awful. | ||
| But... | ||
| At the end of the day, you just don't want that. | ||
| You don't want that kind of thing to happen. | ||
| So for me, it's like I would rather opt out than have someone make some disease make that decision for me. | ||
| The suffering thing is the thing that we all want to avoid. | ||
| We want to avoid discomfort and pain and also causing discomfort to our loved ones. | ||
| One of the scariest things about dying is leaving behind grievers, leaving behind people that are sad and miss you terribly. | ||
| It's like when you've seen people where their loved ones have died. | ||
| And I've lost loved ones. | ||
| We all have. | ||
| And it's a weird void. | ||
| Yeah, it's horrific. | ||
| It's traumatic. | ||
| And that's where my conquest or my interest and passion led to anti-aging, the future. | ||
| And then building on that for the ones that I love that are alive now and doing whatever I can to share the information so that they live as long as they possibly can in the healthiest way possible. | ||
| So I'm just gathering information as I go. | ||
| And it's exciting because, as I was saying, as I get bigger as a personality, You know, sometimes I do jump into these rooms. | ||
| And in one case, just recently, there's a doctor that I've worked with. | ||
| I've done some stem cell injections with him in Denver. | ||
| And he came to my house and he was with some other doctors and they're like, oh yeah, there's a doctor convention. | ||
| I live in Las Vegas. | ||
| There's conventions all the time there. | ||
| So they all came over and like, hey, you know, there's some breakthrough, groundbreaking stuff that's happened this year. | ||
| You can now find out on a cellular level cancer detection for at least 16 different cancers. | ||
| You know, so like, it's like very, very preventative, you know, far along the line. | ||
| So I was like, I want in. | ||
| So I got the information and I just like that was a Christmas present for everyone. | ||
| What kind of stem cell procedures are you getting? | ||
| I mean, the first time was through Dan Bilzerian. | ||
| He's introduced me to the one in Panama. | ||
| So I went down there. | ||
| Dr. Neil Reardon. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| My mom was just down there. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Last week. | ||
| Yeah, I've sent her down there twice. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| She was in the verge of getting a knee replacement. | ||
| And her knee was really bad. | ||
| And eight months, it took a while, you know, because my mom was 73. And within eight months, her knee stopped being in pain. | ||
| And she was able to walk and they went to the Grand Canyon. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now she went back again to just get a second dose and juice it up some more. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| I just know when I was there, I saw a lot of kids in there. | ||
| The one in Panama because it grows muscle or does something. | ||
| I don't want to say the wrong thing. | ||
| It regenerates tissue. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So kids with muscle dystrophy, kids where they can't walk anymore, they get the stem cell injections and they can walk. | ||
| And then after six months, the stem cells do leave your body. | ||
| It doesn't stay with you. | ||
| Once again, in scientific terms, I could be off. | ||
| But they have to go back in, get the stem cells, and they can have that kind of life instead of having me in a wheelchair. | ||
| So I went in there because I just wanted to try it out. | ||
| My friend also came with me. | ||
| He has asthma. | ||
| Knocked out his asthma. | ||
| He never had to use an inhaler for way past six months. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, because the stem cells also really affect the lungs. | ||
| The umbilical cord cells, they travel the lungs first. | ||
| So this is an IV version? | ||
| Yeah, we did IV. I did shoulder, my shoulders, because I later got rotator cuff surgery. | ||
| Because I had a bone spur going into my tendon. | ||
| But I tried to use the stem cells so I didn't have to go to the surgery. | ||
| But you can't erode bone. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you got it shaved down, is that what they did? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But my performance level went up. | ||
| The general markers of what it's supposed to do actually increased. | ||
| Actually, right after that, I went back to Vegas, met up with Dan, and we did a workout. | ||
| And it was like... | ||
| It's just, you know, two times more. | ||
| And, you know, it worked. | ||
| Like, you know, it did what it was scientifically supposed to do for me, for my stamina, my energy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You did it for three days? | ||
| Did you do the three-day treatment? | ||
| Yeah, three days. | ||
| And three days of IV and then injects into different joints? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I did that, and then about a year later, I was with Dr. Grossman. | ||
| He's the doctor I work with, and he wrote the book with Ray Kurzweil called, I think the subtext of the book is Staying Alive Until We Reach Singularity or something like that. | ||
| It's like a book on being healthy, basically, anti-aging book. | ||
| He wrote that with Ray Kurzweil. | ||
| So that's why I heard about him. | ||
| I went to him a few years back to get the full blood work going for me and my family. | ||
| We did two days of testing, all kinds of stuff to learn more about our bodies and see what we're deficient in, what we're not, what vitamins we need to take to supplement the things that we're deficient in. | ||
| And I came back just maybe a year ago to do his version of stem cells because in America it's a different Panama is obviously out of America, so they're doing the umbilical cord stem cells, or they harvest the stem cells from umbilical cords. | ||
| So they have day zero stem cells. | ||
| He's doing stem cells. | ||
| It's almost like a plasma therapy. | ||
| When they took my blood, spin it, and they're pulling out the stem cells from my own blood. | ||
| So it's 41-year-old stem cells. | ||
| But his point that he's saying is that the size of the stem cells, they're much smaller, so they're able to travel past where it ends up clogging, which is like the lungs and like certain areas of the body. | ||
| So it does travel more. | ||
| It's not the day zero stem cells, but it's still effectively doing its work. | ||
| When you think back to 20 years ago, there was no discussion of this. | ||
| I've had stem cell shots too, and I had a full-length rotator cuff tear in my right arm that's gone. | ||
| It went sealed up, healed. | ||
| I was having real problems with this arm where I was thinking I was going to need surgery. | ||
| Now it works great. | ||
| No problems at all. | ||
| Hit the bag, lift weights. | ||
| And you injected intravenously and into the arm? | ||
| Yeah, I've done both. | ||
| Exosomes. | ||
| There's a new thing called Wharton's Jelly that had a pretty profound effect. | ||
| It's a very potent mixture of stem cells. | ||
| We're getting close to the point where you don't have to go to Panama, but going to Panama right now is the way to go. | ||
| So that's where you went for... | ||
| No, I didn't go to Panama. | ||
| I did it all in America. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Santa Monica. | ||
| Oh, Santa Monica. | ||
| I'll have to try that out. | ||
| It's a place that I originally started going to for Regenikine. | ||
| Do you know what Regenikine is? | ||
| Regenicene was originally invented in Germany. | ||
| And a lot of guys like Peyton Manning and Kobe Bryant, they had to fly to Germany back in the day to get this. | ||
| And what they do is it's a more advanced form of platelet-rich plasma, right? | ||
| Like they're taking your blood out. | ||
| They spin it in a centrifuge and heat it through some process and they add things to it and in the process it creates this incredibly potent anti-inflammatory agent that's from your own blood. | ||
| It's like this yellow serum. | ||
| Then they inject this yellow serum directly into areas where you have injury and or inflammation. | ||
| It has a radical healing effect. | ||
| And it's really, really good for bulging discs. | ||
| People that have disc issues and back issues, and I had a pretty bad one in my neck that was keeping me out of jiu-jitsu. | ||
| My hands were going numb, you know, because the bulge was pushing against my nerve. | ||
| Now it's gone. | ||
| Like, I got an MRI six months later after the procedure. | ||
| There's no more bulge. | ||
| Now, most of the time when you have a bulging disc, sometimes it can go back and heal, but most of the time it does not. | ||
| Most of the time what happens is you wind up having to get a disectomy. | ||
| Where they go into the disc, they remove the offending piece that's sticking into your nerve. | ||
| But now you have a smaller disc. | ||
| You have less disc tissue. | ||
| So your discs start to collapse. | ||
| Your actual spinal column, the actual hard bone moves closer to the other hard bone. | ||
| And it becomes a real problem. | ||
| Arthritis forms, scar tissue forms. | ||
| The more disc tissue you have, You know, the better off you are. | ||
| And they're able to do that now to the point where they... | ||
| To increase the disc tissue. | ||
| Well, it doesn't decrease it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So when the disc is bulging, it actually gets it to go back in. | ||
| It gets it to retreat. | ||
| The stem cells or the blood plasma therapy? | ||
| But stem cells have been shown to start to do that too. | ||
| They've actually started injecting stem cells directly into disc tissue. | ||
| And I was talking to Dr. Roddy McGee out of Las Vegas. | ||
| He's one of the guys that's really at the cutting edge of all this stuff, working with UFC fighters. | ||
| And they're doing that with them. | ||
| And he was the guy I originally went to to treat my shoulder because of Dr. Davidson from the UFC, who's the main doctor for the UFC. He was telling me he had shoulder surgery. | ||
| He's a little bit older than me. | ||
| And his shoulder surgery took... | ||
| He was still having issues with it. | ||
| He was trying to figure out what he should do because he was still having pain when he was swimming. | ||
| Went and got some stem cell injections. | ||
| All the pain went away. | ||
| So he was telling me about that. | ||
| He's like, you know, you got some pretty significant tears. | ||
| You might really need surgery, but maybe this will help you for now. | ||
| So I went there, and the amount of help that it... | ||
| The amount of alleviation of pain and discomfort was stunning. | ||
| I was like, I can't believe this is a real thing. | ||
| You can just shoot this into whatever is bothering you, and then all of a sudden, like four months later, you're like, hey, where's the pain? | ||
| I don't have any fucking pain anymore. | ||
| I need to meet. | ||
| Can you introduce me to McGee? | ||
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Oh, yeah, for sure. | |
| Oh, yeah, he's great. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I'll give you his number. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| I send people to him all the time. | ||
| But he's on the cutting edge of everything. | ||
| Like, anytime he's a young guy and he's really enthusiastic and super brilliant, and anytime there's any sort of cutting edge medical practice, that guy's... | ||
| He's on it. | ||
| Like, for instance, one of the things they're doing now is when people get ACL tears, which usually, when you get an ACL tear... | ||
| Usually you need reconstruction. | ||
| And usually what that reconstruction is is either a cadaver graft where they take the Achilles tendon out of a dead person and shove it in your knee and then your body re-proliferates that with its own cells. | ||
| It takes about six months and then you have a functional tendon again. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I had it done myself. | ||
| It works. | ||
| But now they're able to reattach the actual torn ACL. They have some special technique they do. | ||
| And they've had people tear an ACL and then compete in the Olympics four months later. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Which is fucking bananas. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he showed me this procedure and how they do it. | ||
| And then he showed me this guy four months post-op doing all these box jumps and shit. | ||
| And I was like, this is nuts. | ||
| It is nuts. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's a lot of hope. | ||
| In terms of regenerative medicine. | ||
| Absolutely, yeah. | ||
| Thank God for people like Dr. Reardon and Dr. McGee and Dr. Ben-Ruhi, who's the guy that I go to in Santa Monica. | ||
| These guys are just on top of this incredible new wave of regenerative medicine. | ||
| Yeah, I'm obsessed with that world. | ||
| So the more you're talking about it, it's very exciting. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| When you're in Vegas, you've got to visit Roddy. | ||
| I would love to meet him. | ||
| He's a great guy, too. | ||
| You would love him. | ||
| And he's super enthusiastic about it. | ||
| If he finds out that you're enthusiastic about it, he'll geek out with you. | ||
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Sounds awesome. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What else have you had done? | ||
| Stem cells, shoulders. | ||
| I just had vocal cord surgery. | ||
| Did you get polyps or something? | ||
| Yeah, I did. | ||
| Polypoid on my vocal cord. | ||
| I used to sing in a band. | ||
| I used to be in a screamo hardcore band. | ||
| Or a few of them. | ||
| That's my roots of where my music was as far as what led me to DJing was being in these hardcore punk bands. | ||
| So that's a lot of screaming. | ||
| Lots of screaming, yeah. | ||
| And then I carried that through when I finally retired that hat. | ||
| And I started DJing years and years later. | ||
| And I started doing these bigger, bigger shows. | ||
| And I started doing the festivals. | ||
| I brought out that same energy again. | ||
| And I started, you know, when I started producing the music, electronic music, I was bringing in guitars. | ||
| I was screaming on some of these songs. | ||
| So I'm bringing some of my past in with... | ||
| And I'm back again, but in a different world. | ||
| And I'm not a trained singer, you know? | ||
| So I destroyed my vocal cords and I was just like raspy as hell. | ||
| I was just like... | ||
| An old Italian man at some of my shows. | ||
| And then I saw a doctor and he's like, you don't have a choice. | ||
| You're going to have to take a break. | ||
| And I'm doing like 250 shows a year. | ||
| So I was like, well, I've got to stop for the month and not talk for a month. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| No talking for a whole month. | ||
| Yeah, imagine Joe Rogan not talking for a whole month. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I bet a lot of people would be excited. | ||
| But I had to do that. | ||
| That was very hard. | ||
| I actually saw a life coach before because I'm like, I'm terrified. | ||
| I don't want my demons or whatever anxiety or whatever things that I have creeping up where they're like, okay, you're mine now. | ||
| You can't talk to someone about... | ||
| I'm scared, but I got through it. | ||
| I'm a very busybody kind of person, so I just scheduled. | ||
| It was like going back to college, but with things that I needed to train and get better at, like get better at piano, get better at meditation, get better at twisting the knobs, engineering, whatever it might be that I want to be better at. | ||
| I just brought more people into my world. | ||
| Then I finished, like, an album that month making music with different people. | ||
| So I just was just so focused on creation and learning and reading and, you know, all that good stuff. | ||
| So when I left, I was like, okay, now I know how to do TM meditation or Transcendental Meditation and, you know, I'm more comfortable doing the things that help me be a better artist. | ||
| Well, it obviously worked, right? | ||
| But what was the first sound that you made after a month? | ||
| What was the first word? | ||
| I'll tell you something that's really interesting. | ||
| I know now to do the most hygienic sneeze that you can possibly do. | ||
| Tell us. | ||
| Because now I can sneeze with no visible vapor residue. | ||
| Because you know when people sneeze, they see these videos, it's like this cloud of trillions of bacteria floating in the air. | ||
| Of course, If you do that to me, you'll probably see some vapor, but you don't feel it on your hand. | ||
| If you sneeze and it's all gunky, it happens sometimes, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, now I can sneeze because I'm not using my vocal cords. | ||
| So as I sneeze, I blow out really hard because I had no choice. | ||
| I couldn't cough. | ||
| I couldn't actually use a vocal cord after the surgery. | ||
| So what if you had a cough? | ||
| So I'll be like... | ||
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Whoa. | |
| So when I sneeze, I sneeze like that. | ||
| I go... | ||
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So if you do that, if you do that kind of sneeze... | |
| What's that? | ||
| That's how you do it right now? | ||
| That's how I sneeze. | ||
| I almost want to get some dust. | ||
| See if you sneeze. | ||
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Yeah, if you can make me sneeze, I will show you, and then... | |
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| So you just breathe out. | ||
| Yeah, it's the cleanest sneeze you could possibly do. | ||
| Yeah, so that's one very important thing I learned through this whole... | ||
| But the first sound... | ||
| I mean, I don't remember. | ||
| Were you scared to say a word? | ||
| Like when the 30 days was up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's probably just, you know, also whispering is really bad. | ||
| Whispering is bad? | ||
| Like that? | ||
| Yeah, like whispering like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Whispering is not good for your vocal cords. | ||
| You think it's like gentler on them, but from what I was told, to not whisper. | ||
| So I literally was texting all the time for, you know, until I had to make that, you know. | ||
| You probably developed some fucking lightning fast thumbs. | ||
| Because you wanted to get things out. | ||
| That's what you did most of the time? | ||
| Just text people? | ||
| Text to talk. | ||
| It's called text to talk when I was in my meetings because, you know, I run various different, you know, businesses and I have to, you know, be on call. | ||
| So I'm like texting to talk and I was... | ||
| Stephen Hawking. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Here is the agenda for today. | |
| They apparently wanted to give him a better voice and he didn't want it. | ||
| They wanted to give him a smoother, more Siri-like voice. | ||
| Sorry, I didn't understand that. | ||
| You can get Siri in a nice English voice. | ||
| He was not interested. | ||
| He liked, while he was alive, that weird, rough computer voice. | ||
| I mean, from what I heard about him, his sense of humor was very funny. | ||
| He's just a very sarcastic guy. | ||
| He seemed like a really interesting guy. | ||
| Who also really likes strip clubs. | ||
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Did you know that? | |
| No, I did not. | ||
| Yeah, Eric Weinstein told me about that. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| See, there was a really interesting article written about him that he would love to get wheeled into a strip club. | ||
| He enjoyed it. | ||
| He liked being there. | ||
| But I guess that completely makes sense if you lost... | ||
| Control of your body, but you still were attracted to women. | ||
| You still found them amazing. | ||
| You'd want to see them naked dancing in front of you. | ||
| It makes total sense. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can't get it, but you can at least be there. | ||
| What do you got, Jamie? | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Acclaimed physicist Hawking, a regular at California Strip Joint. | ||
| He's a regular. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
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That's pretty awesome. | |
| Make it rain. | ||
| I am proud to say that I saw him speak when I was in college. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at him with all the strippers. | ||
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Hollow. | |
| Steven Hawking goes to strip clubs. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Look at his smile. | ||
| He looks so happy. | ||
| He looks so happy. | ||
| Who are we to hate? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine that would be a very trying 30 days. | ||
| So when it came, when it was over, was your voice normal? | ||
| Did it come back? | ||
| It was different. | ||
| But I was warned that it would sound a little different. | ||
| Like you sound different now than you sounded before the operation. | ||
| I'm used to what I sound like now, so I almost forgot what I sound like before, but I think maybe a semitone differently, you know? | ||
| But, you know, it's like you just get used to the new you. | ||
| Like, if I was going to be half cyborg, half man, I'd probably just be like, okay, this is me, you know? | ||
| Like, you just get to that when you're situated in that. | ||
| The half cyborg thing is going to be really weird when people start replacing legs. | ||
| Because I think if you could develop a leg, like a cybernetic leg that's better than a normal leg, someone's gonna say, chop my leg off and give me one of those. | ||
| Someone. | ||
| Someone somewhere is going to do that. | ||
| And if that becomes seamless and, you know, you get some Steve Austin, $6 million man type shit going on, things can get real weird. | ||
| That's what Yuval talks about in Homo Deus. | ||
| You know, that whole idea that, like, first we use the technology to heal the people that need it, but at the end of the day, it's going to be used for advancing humanity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to help people that need to walk first, right? | ||
| But then it's like, just like you said, if it becomes very normal, then the upgrades will be used as well to advance the people that don't need it. | ||
| Yeah, and then we get to the point where you're unscrewing your head. | ||
| Taking your brain out. | ||
| And that's also what's interesting is that when you say that, You know, now it sounds crazy. | ||
| It does, but it doesn't. | ||
| Yeah, well, to you it doesn't. | ||
| But to me it doesn't either. | ||
| But that's exactly what you're saying about the phone or like what you're showing someone in the Victorian age about the internet, right? | ||
| And when we get to that place, it's going to You know, it's going to feel like, oh, well, everyone did it, so... | ||
| Like when Luke Skywalker got his arm chopped off in Star Wars, and they put another arm on, and it's really quick, remember? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, that shit's going to happen. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that's... | ||
| I don't think that's too far away. | ||
| I think that's probably 25 years away. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| I hope so, too. | ||
| Because we are seeing some pretty advanced... | ||
| Artificial limbs. | ||
| So there was a guy who got his leg and his arm bit off by a shark, and I met him at the comedy store. | ||
| And he has this carbon fiber arm and a carbon fiber leg. | ||
| The guy doesn't walk with a limp. | ||
| He walks completely normal, and he shook my hand. | ||
| I was scared, because I was like, don't crush my hand, because he's got some fucking Iron Man hand, and he shook my hand. | ||
| Does it look like a hand, or is it just a metal? | ||
| It's like a fucking hand. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, like a black carbon fiber hand that articulates. | ||
| It moves. | ||
| I think they're starting to make it where you can feel. | ||
| Yes, I think they are. | ||
| That's the guy right there. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I mean, that's the next level, right? | ||
| It's like when you can make an arm that has nerve joints that's artificially connecting with your brain. | ||
| Yeah, he's an interesting character because that arm, I mean, you really get this I am robot kind of feel from seeing his arm and his leg. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure he would tell you that he's much better off with his arm and his leg back, but when you see the guy walk around, man, he fucking just walks around. | ||
| He looks normal. | ||
| I mean what they used to have in comparison to what they have today. | ||
| I mean it is leaps and bounds. | ||
| And I'm sure the future, so that's his actual arm. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's what it looks like. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Shark bit his fucking arm off. | ||
| That's a, I mean, I wouldn't want to put the arm and leg. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was a hungry shark. | ||
| Asshole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's, you know, it's interesting because this is, we're in this new frontier of what's possible. | ||
| I'm sure they're upgrading his stuff all the time as well, you know, or what's available to someone like him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's exciting to see when you see it firsthand and you see him not lipping and where we're going. | ||
| Like I'm saying, all the sci-fi films that we see, some of them are going to have very real scenarios in our life. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you a technology geek outside of thinking about the body? | ||
| As in... | ||
| I mean, I am, of course. | ||
| I would definitely say I'm a tech geek. | ||
| Yeah, because you kind of have to, right? | ||
| You create electronic music. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm a gadget guy, too. | ||
| I love gadgets and trying new little things that are out there. | ||
| I just want to try it all. | ||
| I want to experience things in different ways to enhance my experience overall. | ||
| Yeah, creating music electronically is... | ||
| It's kind of polarizing to some people, though, right? | ||
| Because, I mean, I think your music sounds fucking amazing, but for some people, they want to hear an actual string of a guitar, the rap of a drum, you know? | ||
| People have this very narrow idea of what music is. | ||
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It's true. | |
| It's true. | ||
| And, you know, I think that there's two layers to... | ||
| To electronic music. | ||
| You have to, first of all, make the music. | ||
| You are making the music in one form or another. | ||
| I actually don't use live instrumentation so much, but sometimes I do. | ||
| Because I come from that world, it's natural for me to bring a guitar in, but it's not necessary. | ||
| Everything can be made from a laptop. | ||
| You don't even actually need very much anymore. | ||
| You can make an entire song. | ||
| Yeah, GarageBand, I guess, would be the rudimentary first option. | ||
| Do you use Windows? | ||
| Do you use a Mac? | ||
| I use Apple, Ableton Live. | ||
| Ableton Live is the software? | ||
| Yeah, it's like the DAW that I use to create the music. | ||
| But, you know, you can literally... | ||
| You don't even need a keyboard. | ||
| You don't even need a mouse. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You just need a hard drive of samples or, you know, having enough that you can build off of. | ||
| And your keyboard becomes... | ||
| You know, how you're going to paint your notes in. | ||
| So you can make it that streamlined if you wanted to. | ||
| Now having like this big studios is great. | ||
| And I have a really beautiful studio in my house. | ||
| But it's more about the energy of the room for me. | ||
| Like I want to go in there like going, I'm going to work 12 hours and I'm going to be excited to do that all the way until whatever time. | ||
| It's that Las Vegas effect of being in a casino and you don't know what time it is. | ||
| I want that same effect in my room to be like energized and also energize people that come in. | ||
| But if I'm on the road making an idea and just strip lining it, I don't really need much. | ||
| Is that your setup right there? | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| Dude, what a fucking badass room. | ||
| I love your carpet. | ||
| What's going on with that? | ||
| It's a, you know, blue, obviously, my book's called Blue, is my favorite color, and I want the feeling to feel futuristic, so it's the neon future cave. | ||
| Now, if you look up at the ceiling, if you scroll up in that picture or whatever, you'll get to see, maybe it's not in that picture, but I have, yeah, so you have, like, these, like, LED lights coming through the ceiling as if you're in, like, a cave. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| And, um... | ||
| And then you're looking at everything in this enormous projection screen. | ||
| Is that what that is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it seats a ton of people. | ||
| So, you know, just... | ||
| I mean, I'm releasing my next singles with the Backstreet Boys. | ||
| So I can fit all the Backstreet Boys guys in my house, in my studio. | ||
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And we can, you know, do what we do. | |
| Have you always lived in Vegas? | ||
| I moved to Vegas in 20... | ||
| I bought my house in 2013. What made you move to Vegas? | ||
| I was living in LA, and my career broke in Los Angeles, so there's no doubt about it, being in LA as a musician, as an artist, someone in music, that's where you, if you want a break, you're going to have all the connections and build your network here fastest than anywhere else in the world. | ||
| New York, I feel like, is the media hub for fashion, and then LA is a music hub, and then Atlanta is like the hip-hop hub, Nashville's country. | ||
| But I broke in LA when I started touring. | ||
| In 2009, 10, 2008, 9, 10, 11, I was just gone. | ||
| I wasn't living in LA the way I lived in LA, going out to all the places I loved to eat, all the culture of what LA has to offer. | ||
| I was only there 50 days of the year, maybe. | ||
| So I was like, well, just signed a residency in Las Vegas when the nightlife boomed for DJs from 2010. It was a big shift of what nightlife has to offer in Vegas, and DJs were a big part of that. | ||
| And I signed a big residency deal. | ||
| And then I was like, I mean, I'm here more than I am in LA. And, you know, it's a good tax situation there. | ||
| There's no state tax there. | ||
| And I'd have to leave LA my home turf, but I'm not even there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I just moved ship entirely, bought a house, bought the dream situation house. | ||
| There's so many perks for me because LA, I had like a 2,000, 2,500 square foot, maybe 3,000 square foot house, which was nice. | ||
| Million dollar house in the hills. | ||
| And that's when I finally made it. | ||
| Before I lived in an apartment on DeLong Preen El Centro, East Hollywood, I guess Hollywood and Binarya, $900 for 900 square feet. | ||
| That's where it all started for me. | ||
| That's when I first moved to LA. I started making money. | ||
| It took time to get there. | ||
| I kind of talk about that in the book, like the hardships to get there because one of the best lessons that my father shared with me was this tough love attitude where, you know, he was a very rich, flamboyant restaurateur. | ||
| Benny Hanna's had fancy cars, was very flashy, very American. | ||
| He's the one that broke through the American dream. | ||
| The Japanese, one of the few Japanese people that actually did that. | ||
| So he's just like, yo, look at me with, you know, flying hot air balloons, offshore boat racing. | ||
| And then like, you know, I guess the traditional thing is like that he would financially help me, you know, because he has the money to do that. | ||
| But one of the most powerful things he did was he just financially – he didn't financially help me. | ||
| And I had to figure though my issues, my hardships, my business plans, my – Financial issues that I was going through on my own so I had to start there and Because of that I was able to succeed through some of the hard stuff and and Have that drive to want to make money for myself. | ||
| So during that time in LA, you know, I'm kind of digressing here You know, I lived in this apartment for about seven years and then the DJing My first priority was my record label. | ||
| That was like why I moved to LA. Sign artists, develop them, help them. | ||
| And then I was DJing, building the brand of the label, and we created a really cool scene in LA. And we were breaking some of the biggest acts. | ||
| Not breaking, we were the underground hotbed, you know, like the comedy shop or something, where everyone would hang out. | ||
| So, like, Lady Gaga was playing for free at our shows. | ||
| Skrillex was there every single week. | ||
| Will.i.am was dancing in the corner and then going back to the studio making Black Eyed Peas hits because 2007 through 2009, Black Eyed Peas were the biggest artists. | ||
| LMFAO was there every single week. | ||
| And then they became the biggest acts. | ||
| So we're like this hotbed of music culture in LA, but it was my parties. | ||
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| And then that's how I made a name for myself is that I was throwing these parties and I was DJing them, but no one cared that I was DJing them. | ||
| The only reason why they were going is because these acts would always be there. | ||
| And then the celebs would come in. | ||
| That's when I met DJ AM in 2006, 2005. And then we got together and he brought the celebs in. | ||
| So now there's a spotlight of pre-TMZ kind of like, oh, what's going on over here with this electro sound? | ||
| You have Daft Punk there unmasked and And like really cool underground like Kid Cudi there and Connie West coming through and then there's Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton and all these different people all like in this small room. | ||
| And people wanted to know what the hell is going on in that little space. | ||
| And this is what's great about this time was that it was pre-Snapchat, pre-social media. | ||
| It was just MySpace. | ||
| So you had to be in that room to experience what was happening. | ||
| So people would fly in to just be in that room to hear what was the cutting edge sound that was going to be eventually popular. | ||
| People wanted to play in that little 300-400 cap room. | ||
| Did you film any of that? | ||
| There was always one guy filming. | ||
| I mean, that's the thing, because back then, there was no phones that could film. | ||
| It was like Razors and Blackberries. | ||
| Sidekicks? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the worst quality. | ||
| So a guy would have to bring a camcorder in, right? | ||
| And this one guy, Glenn Jayman, he would always film those parties. | ||
| We had Cobra Snake. | ||
| He was my best friend who would just run with me to all the shows and parties. | ||
| Because back then I would play like five nights a week in LA. And he would photograph and he would document and that's how you would find out about the lifestyle, the clothes, the look of what it was to be on Cahuenga in Hollywood. | ||
| And then you see Kid Cudi there and you see Kanye West there and you see whoever else that was just hanging out, absorbing the culture that we were creating there. | ||
| And then eventually that was what got me out of my I was a pretty bad businessman when I was running in Denmark. | ||
| I thought I was doing shit right because I was signing acts that actually mattered and were taking off, but I just didn't know how to, you know, I was just spending, spending like, yo, we gotta keep going with this. | ||
| And then, you know, then I started bringing the right people and I was like, okay, I need to build a team. | ||
| I need to build some people that have some sensibilities in this world while I'm creative. | ||
| And then the DJing just took off as I was getting more into production, getting more into remixing, getting more into creating myself as an artist. | ||
| And then that is what people know about me now. | ||
| But really, people knew about me because of the Dimock. | ||
| And it's interesting how sometimes the evolutions of the eras of who you are change over time. | ||
| And then, fast forward, 2013 is when I was like, Okay, LA helped grow me to who I am. | ||
| My management, my label, they're still LA. | ||
| But Steve Aoki is going to be Las Vegas. | ||
| I would love to see a documentary on that. | ||
| That would be an amazing film to see how that all was going. | ||
| going down. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, like if you have video footage, if you get somebody to edit that and put together a documentary of that time period, because it's a really interesting time period. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, for the, the, the creation of electronic music. | ||
| And what you pointed out that's so interesting was that 2010 was really somewhere around the time Vegas started becoming these electronic music shows started taking precedent. | ||
| They're the biggest fucking thing. | ||
| I was staying at the Wynn recently and the hotel room we were at was overlooking the pool. | ||
| And I forget who it was that was playing there, but it was fucking chaos! | ||
| And like you don't, and especially when you're, you know, we're like above, like high above, looking down in the pool in the hotel room. | ||
| Yeah, you get that bird's eye view. | ||
| It was so crazy. | ||
| It was so loud and so crazy. | ||
| And there was, everybody's in the pool. | ||
| It was fucking madness. | ||
| And you're going, this never existed. | ||
| I mean, I've been coming to Vegas for a long time. | ||
| This is a new thing. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's a new thing over the last nine years. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's overtaken Vegas. | ||
| Everywhere you go, there's these gigantic billboards with either Your Face on it or whatever other DJs in this place. | ||
| Who's the guy with the fucking marshmallow head? | ||
| There's a guy at Marshmallow? | ||
| Yeah, well, that's Marshmallow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, that's like the unknown comic. | ||
| He's got a marshmallow on his head. | ||
| But there's so many... | ||
| I didn't even know who that was. | ||
| Like, my kids were explaining to me. | ||
| My 11-year-old was explaining to me marshmallow. | ||
| I'm like, how the fuck do you know who marshmallow is? | ||
| And we're there, and it's just... | ||
| It's everyone that's going out in Vegas. | ||
| I mean, it used to be... | ||
| Vegas used to be, like... | ||
| Cultural weird void. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You would have some big acts that would come through there, but it always seemed like they were at the end of their run. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You had to be at the end of your run. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, when Michael Jackson was considering doing Vegas, it was like, okay, he's like finally saying that this is the end of my run. | ||
| Or, you know, it's like the legacy. | ||
| Even someone who's really talented, like Celine Dion, you know, she did a residency in Vegas. | ||
| You're like, oh, she's probably just tired. | ||
| Donnie Marie. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yes, perfect. | ||
| Manilow, or Barry Manilow. | ||
| Carrot Top does a residency there. | ||
| I mean, he's doing really well. | ||
| It's not a knock. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's not. | ||
| It's really not. | ||
| But that's what it was. | ||
| But then all of a sudden, it became electronic music. | ||
| And it's like, wow, what is happening? | ||
| These things are enormous. | ||
| They're so much bigger than any other kind of event that you have in Vegas, other than massive sporting events like USC or something like that. | ||
| Well, definitely, it's provoked by energy, too. | ||
| And that's infectious. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, it's a fucking great time. | ||
| If you go to see Barry Manilow or whatever, no knock on them, but you know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm sure it's fun, it's mellow, it's whatever you're into. | ||
| Yeah, you're seated, you know, like you're seated for a reason because you're there to like sit and just enjoy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There's no seats at a Steve Aoki show. | ||
| I mean, there are, there's like the tables and stuff, but no one's sitting down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the, that'll be strange to see someone, unless they're just passed out drunk or something. | ||
| But for the most part, everyone's standing and jumping and being part of the moment. | ||
| And that's my job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I need to make sure everyone's attention is on me and that I'm taking them to this next level. | ||
| I've always wondered what it's like to live in Vegas, though. | ||
| Like, I've never lived there. | ||
| You know, my good friend Dana White lives there. | ||
| He loves it there. | ||
| He raves about it. | ||
| But I've always like, hmm, like Vegas. | ||
| Okay, so for me, so I'm an L.A. guy, right? | ||
| Like, my heart and, like... | ||
| I love Los Angeles. | ||
| I know LA so well. | ||
| And with LA, you have your limitations. | ||
| It's Los Angeles. | ||
| If you want to build your dream house, you're going to have to have a lot of money to do that. | ||
| In Vegas, when I moved there in 2013, I got a sick deal. | ||
| I bought my house, 16,000 square feet. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| 2.8 million, I think. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, 2.8 million. | ||
| It was a short sale. | ||
| It was a total steal. | ||
| I mean, like the guts were not good. | ||
| It was like one of those like prop homes almost. | ||
| So I had a re-gut and like I spent like five million into the house. | ||
| And it was more about building my own dream house as I would want to have it. | ||
| I have a foam pit in there with a trampoline room. | ||
| I have... | ||
| The pool in my backyard was too far away from my house, so I filled it in and I built a pool that's 16 feet deep right next to my patio. | ||
| That's 20 feet up. | ||
| I built the patio out so that way I can jump into the pool from the top. | ||
| And I'm like a kid. | ||
| I'm basically a big kid. | ||
| And I just think about how I want to make my house fun, interactive, for the artists that come there, for me. | ||
| I have a fun gym. | ||
| I got my own chest station, backgammon station. | ||
| I have a poker room. | ||
| It's the most hospitable house. | ||
| And I have all this space. | ||
| I have a big shoe room. | ||
| I'm a big shoe collector. | ||
| I got a crazy library with books and records. | ||
| And I have a Bruce Lee mirror room. | ||
| A mirror room? | ||
| It's my closet. | ||
| But it's just like you walk in and it's like LED strips everywhere with mirrors and I'm just having fun. | ||
| I'm having fun with my house. | ||
| There's the mirror room. | ||
| I have some really crazy, really beautiful art. | ||
| I got this amazing Banksy piece. | ||
| And so I've been starting to collect art. | ||
| There's my shoe room. | ||
| Doesn't Banksy get mad if people buy his shit? | ||
| Well, I bought it from him. | ||
| Oh, you met him? | ||
| Tell us what he looks like. | ||
| He's a girl. | ||
| I'm just kidding, I never met him. | ||
| I got in through some people to get into... | ||
| Is he definitely a real person? | ||
| You know, I don't know. | ||
| How weird is that, that someone in 2019 has managed to stay that secretive? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really kind of amazing. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Because he's a cultural phenomenon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's, I mean, everybody knows who Banksy is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Or you know of Banksy, I should say, but no one knows who he is, which is crazy. | ||
| Who the fuck has ever pulled that off? | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, what a unique human being. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| How can someone still do that? | ||
| I mean, it's like he's always seeming to find a way to troll people in a social or political critique, just like he did with the art sale of the shredded painting. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| How amazing was that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was pretty crazy. | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| To watch those people after they paid it and see the thing drop down and shred the artwork. | ||
| But let me ask you this, though. | ||
| I don't want to go too deep into this, but... | ||
| Because I don't know if I'm stepping on anyone's toes here, but... | ||
| If this is really suffrages or like a real auction house, aren't they going to look at the painting or the piece? | ||
| Are they going to open up the frame and make sure there's not some weird drill going through? | ||
| I don't think they would ever expect that to be the case. | ||
| I mean, but you're antique. | ||
| You should be checking everything, making sure everything's authentic, no? | ||
| Well, if it's an authentic piece and somehow or another some reliable source brings it to them as an authentic piece, they just accept the fact. | ||
| They don't check the details of the piece? | ||
| I mean, what can they do? | ||
| Meanwhile, by the way, I'll take that and fucking glue that bitch back together again. | ||
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Leave it that way. | |
| No, you want it like that. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| It's like what makes the value is that... | ||
| Right, like actually have it hanging there. | ||
| That's why you want it in your house, really. | ||
| You want it just like that. | ||
| Yeah, look at the people's face. | ||
| Sometimes I forget that I'm... | ||
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Oh, no! | |
| Oh, no, Thurston! | ||
| We've lost the piece! | ||
| Yeah, you know, I wish... | ||
| Like, it's funny that we're talking about this because sometimes I forget, like, you know, we're having a chat and I realize, oh, there's a lot of people listening in on this, so maybe I shouldn't give away some of the stuff that I've learned about it. | ||
| But, yeah, anyways, I'll leave it there. | ||
| Well, he's definitely a unique human. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So let's get back to Vegas. | ||
| So you don't feel weird living there? | ||
| Because the one thing that I've felt about Vegas is I always enjoy going there and enjoy leaving more. | ||
| I'm like, get me home. | ||
| Let me get out of this place. | ||
| Well, that's because you go there with that intention. | ||
| Like for me, I built my compound. | ||
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Right. | |
| So it is home. | ||
| It's 100% home. | ||
| It's exciting to be home. | ||
| And the best part about it is like first I built the compound, this dream house. | ||
| To invite all my friends. | ||
| I'm a hospitable guy. | ||
| So I want artists to come there, my friends to come there, stay there with me, my family. | ||
| And the next best thing was calling my mom and my sister who lived together. | ||
| And I said, will you move to Vegas? | ||
| Will you be in my neighborhood? | ||
| And they said yes. | ||
| And that was the best money I ever spent was buying my mom a house. | ||
| And they live around the corner. | ||
| My mom's cooking by the time I'm home. | ||
| I see my mom all the time and I never had the opportunity. | ||
| We had this 10 plus year gap where I see her like once every six months because I'm just touring like a beast. | ||
| Now I just see my family a lot more. | ||
| So in a way, I'm trying to bring my family all to Vegas. | ||
| My cousins moved from the East Coast with his wife and his mom to Vegas before even my mom. | ||
| So I have my cousin there, I have my mom, my sister there with their daughter, my brother, Kevin, who's a restaurateur as well. | ||
| He's planning to make the move because we're going to open up some restaurants on the Strip. | ||
| Damn, dude, you got your fingers in a lot of pies. | ||
| And on that pie note, I do have pizza Aoki. | ||
| No! | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| I have 19 kitchens now. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Yeah, it's been about a year and two months and we're growing at a rapid rate. | ||
| I would imagine 19 in a year? | ||
| 19 kitchens in a year. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Most of them are in Los Angeles because that's where we kind of broke ground and we were just opening up kitchens in all the areas that... | ||
| That Postmates was giving us information like, yo, this is where it makes sense to do that. | ||
| So we work with all the delivery hubs. | ||
| Is it mostly a delivery thing? | ||
| Yeah, I do have two dine-in locations, but the whole business model is about delivery. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all about delivery, and that way my costs are very low. | ||
| And then I could be effective. | ||
| I'm not really spending much money on marketing. | ||
| And what's funny is that people love to post about pizza. | ||
| And Pizzaioki is a pretty fun concept. | ||
| Dude, Fight Companion, Pizzaioki, Saturday. | ||
| Let's make it happen. | ||
| I will send as many Pizzaiokis as you guys need, like whenever you want. | ||
| We're doing a live Fight Companion for the UFC this Saturday. | ||
| It'll be like 11 a.m. | ||
| in the morning because it's in Abu Dhabi. | ||
| So we'll hit it up. | ||
| We'll make that happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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All right. | |
| What kind of pizza you got, man? | ||
| Oh, we got all kinds of pizzas. | ||
| But most importantly, you know, the idea of pizzaioki might sound like a gimmick and you're like, okay, I'll try it out. | ||
| But 60% of the people ordering pizzaioki are returned. | ||
| So we know that it's quality. | ||
| I wouldn't imagine that you're doing anything half-assed. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think that's you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So you've essentially created your own world in Vegas. | ||
| So everyone's there that you know. | ||
| The thing about Vegas, right, is the allure of the strip. | ||
| But you're kind of removed from that anyway. | ||
| You don't do drugs. | ||
| You don't drink, right? | ||
| You don't fuck around with anything. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| That's like one of the things that we talked, like, you know, when we talked about how I'm sustainable, is that you have to not do the certain things that make it unsustainable. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, I never really got into drugs. | ||
| I do talk about my book, my first acid trip when I was 13, but that scared the living shit out of me to stay away from anything hallucinogenic. | ||
| And, like, literally, you're 13, so I just stay away from drugs. | ||
| That's a bad time to do acid. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a very, very funny story, but it got to the point where I just became this straight-edge, hardcore kid. | ||
| I became extremely religious because I was in this, like, I was 13. I was looking up going, I'm going to be fucked for the rest of my life. | ||
| When you're on acid, you're like fucking out there. | ||
| You're just so fucked up. | ||
| And when you start thinking like, this is how I'm going to be forever, you're clinging on to anything that can get you out, right? | ||
| And for me, when I grew up as a kid, my mom was putting me into like Catholic schools. | ||
| And one of the best things that Catholic schools do is indoctrinate kids on fear. | ||
| I remember going up to the drawing board. | ||
| There was a drawing of what hell is. | ||
| Guess who's going there forever? | ||
| People that don't believe. | ||
| When you're young, you start seeing that. | ||
| Then when you get into a place of vulnerability, where I was, I was scared shitless. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to go to an insane award when I'm 13 because I can't get out of this acid hell trip. | ||
| How long did it last? | ||
| I guess like what seven eight hours, but every second is like a minute, you know, because you cannot sleep, you cannot stop thinking about what you're in. | ||
| I mean, there is like, it's like this exaggerated emotions, like the first part of my acid trip. | ||
| I was so funny. | ||
| I was laughing at everything. | ||
| It was the best thing I ever did. | ||
| I was like, oh my god, everything is so funny. | ||
| I'm just laughing. | ||
| I'm in pain because I'm just laughing at everything. | ||
| Everything is joyous. | ||
| Then I went into this upside-down world like Stranger Things when I got dropped off at my friend's house. | ||
| Everyone went dark. | ||
| My friend's 14. He doesn't do drugs. | ||
| His mom was coming down, you're okay, everything's okay. | ||
| Did they know you were on acid? | ||
| No, they knew I was on acid, but they were like, I'm like an 80-pound Japanese kid, five foot, like a little kid. | ||
| Like, what the hell am I doing acid for? | ||
| I do talk about where that came out. | ||
| But yeah, so when I got flipped into that world, then everything was like... | ||
| I saw Street Fighter fireballs from Ryu coming at me when I closed my eyes. | ||
| It was very, very vibrant and vivid. | ||
| I mean, it's a trip, for sure. | ||
| So once you regained sanity, you were like, enough of any of this nonsense. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Once I was like, oh my god, I'm back. | ||
| This is... | ||
| This is for real. | ||
| Fuck drugs. | ||
| Fuck this shit. | ||
| And then I was like, I'm straight edge because that's the music I was starting to get into. | ||
| And then I was like, I'm all about God and Jesus. | ||
| It's going to save me. | ||
| He saved me. | ||
| So as a kid, I was very religious going out and started exploring more about the world. | ||
| And And then went more from this faith-based concepts of living through life to things that needed to make sense for me. | ||
| I'm very much more scientific on the understanding of how I want to see things. | ||
| Where did the change take place? | ||
| When did it take place? | ||
| That would happen to be college and post. | ||
| Where did you go to school? | ||
| UC Santa Barbara. | ||
| So, when you went, it was great. | ||
| I love Santa Barbara. | ||
| God, it's like the hidden gem of California, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So sweet out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you just became educated, started learning more about things, and then... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if there was, like, one spark that happened. | ||
| It was just kind of like... | ||
| I just had questions about why things happen. | ||
| Like, what is religion? | ||
| Like, what, you know... | ||
| How things work in the world, how societies are built. | ||
| Did you study theology? | ||
| A little. | ||
| A little, but I don't know if that would be like the philosophy classes I was taking was not really the crux of it. | ||
| Sociology was my major. | ||
| I was women's studies in sociology when I was in college. | ||
| Women's studies? | ||
| Yeah, women's studies. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I have to say like, strangely enough, that's the first thing you think about, right? | ||
| Why is a guy in women's studies like trying to understand? | ||
| I mean, the reason why I was in that department is because my favorite teacher's uh were the ones teaching those classes so i just was like all right i'll try this one and then i was like wow this is actually pretty interesting i'll try another one and um and then i was like wow i'll just i'll finish off the major and uh you know i'd have to say like the stuff that i learned in school it's in large part of how i kind of look through kind of like navigate through my life like Sociology, | ||
| I am a sociologist. | ||
| I want to study people, like, why they do certain things, you know? | ||
| Like, how do I navigate them in different directions? | ||
| Well, and then you've become a purveyor of great fun. | ||
| That's essentially what you do professionally. | ||
| You give people a great time. | ||
| Your shows are this wild, extremely energetic experience for people. | ||
| When they leave, there's a certain level of transformance. | ||
| I've watched some of your shit online. | ||
| You do these enormous crowds, man. | ||
| And it's so epic. | ||
| And you see all those people going fucking crazy and dancing along to your shit. | ||
| I mean, it's got to be a wild, wild feeling knowing that you're giving this really positive experience. | ||
| These thousands and thousands of people that are just roaring along to your music. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's wild! | ||
| Yeah, no, as you say, I'm like, you know, getting all like... | ||
| Goosebumps! | ||
| It's amazing! | ||
| It's exactly what you're saying. | ||
| And that's why I guess you could say I'm addicted to that. | ||
| And because I care so much about that, I have to be sustainable. | ||
| It goes back to what we're talking about. | ||
| What do I need to do? | ||
| There's no fucking way you could do 250 shows a year and get fucked up 250 days a year. | ||
| In that business especially, the business of electronic dance music, there's a lot of people doing Molly, right? | ||
| There's a lot of people doing all kinds of... | ||
| Amphetamines and all kinds of crazy shit and you're gonna think like you do that every night man You're gonna look like an 80 year old man Because you've literally burned the candle with a blowtorch you use that Elon Musk not a flamethrower You know, | ||
| I mean it's but you know what I always say if whenever I have the opportunity is that For the people in my crowds, and I have to say, country by country, they're very different as far as what I think if they're doing drugs or not. | ||
| Where do they do the most drugs? | ||
| Holland? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| But you know, it's hard. | ||
| It's like I'm just judging, right? | ||
| I don't know what people are doing out there. | ||
| I could judge by how interactive they are. | ||
| That's the best way I can tell. | ||
| Right, if they're like... | ||
| Yeah, if they're... | ||
| That's the worst subject to play to. | ||
| It's like literally playing at a cocktail party when their backs are turned to you. | ||
| It's the same kind of thing for me. | ||
| So if they're already high and they just lost in their world, it's no fun for me. | ||
| Plus, I spend so much time making my sets so interactive, so engaging, and entertaining. | ||
| It's a bit disrespectful. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
| But some people are going to do it. | ||
| You're not going to be like the Debbie Downer and be like, everyone on drugs, get the hell out of here. | ||
| You'd lose 80% of your crowd. | ||
| If you said that, everyone on drugs, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| If they listen to you, what percentage do you think in Vegas would leave? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't even want to know. | ||
| I don't even want to know, honestly. | ||
| At least weed. | ||
| Weed's different, though. | ||
| Weed's more like chill. | ||
| But if you're so high, zoinked off your head where you don't even know where you are or what's going on, then you just lose the whole experience. | ||
| I mean, a lot of times people wake up going, oh, what happened? | ||
| What's the point of the experience if you're so blitzed out of your head you don't even know what's going on? | ||
| Allegedly during the experience you're having a good time. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, that's a really wonderful way to make a living. | ||
| It's like literally the dream come true, you know, to make people happy, get to be... | ||
| I always say, like, I feel like I'm the chef in the kitchen making the food and I go out and I get to watch people eat my food. | ||
| And then they're like, oh, this is really good. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| I'm like, yes! | ||
| Since I see that feeling, I'm like, let's go back and make more food, but we've got to sprinkle more truffle on that, and then let's deliver and then get a C. And then they're like, you're the chef, Mike. | ||
| That's me. | ||
| So it's like I get that lucky position to be able to make my music and then share it and hope that they have the same feeling that I have sharing it. | ||
| So how many shows do you do in Vegas, and how many shows do you do abroad? | ||
| Around 40 in Vegas, so 210. 40 a year? | ||
| 40 a year. | ||
| So when are you there? | ||
| Do you still have residency? | ||
| I do. | ||
| At Hakkasan, Omnia, Jewel, smaller club of theirs, and Wet Republic. | ||
| So there's four properties that I play, which is nice, because if I had to play 40 shows in one... | ||
| I mean, it wouldn't necessarily be that bad because the thing about Vegas is it's a transient crowd, right? | ||
| So it's always – no matter what, even on one weekend, I might be playing possibly three or four times for one weekend. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And every show I do, whether it's a day party and a club, the club is a complete different influx of people coming in. | ||
| Because the people that saw me at the day party are going to go see Chainsmokers or Marshmello or whoever else or Calvin Harris or whatever is playing on the strip. | ||
| The competition is as thick as it gets. | ||
| Every night there's the biggest DJs playing alongside each other. | ||
| It's really amazing if you stop and think about what a crazy change that is to an entertainment environment. | ||
| Like the Vegas, the transformation to that electronic music around, like you said, 2010. There's not a thing like that that you can point to anywhere else in the world. | ||
| Where like all of a sudden this one dominant form of entertainment has taken over the entire nightlife of a city. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like other than a big, some sort of big event that's in Vegas. | ||
| The fucking rodeo or the UFC or something like that where everybody comes in to see that. | ||
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Right. | |
| You guys are what's up. | ||
| I mean, that is what's up in Vegas. | ||
| It dominates it. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| That's a crazy thing. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| Yeah, when you say it like that, I'm like... | ||
| No other place. | ||
| If you go to New York, if you go to LA, if you go to all places all around the world, there's no other thing that has transformed the nightlife of a city the way electronic music has transformed Vegas. | ||
| Transformed. | ||
| Changed everything. | ||
| Went from non-existent to number one with a bullet. | ||
| There's not even a close second. | ||
| It's all electronic music. | ||
| Anthony Bourdain used to hate it. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| He was old and crotchety, being at these places, all the music, and it just wasn't his thing. | ||
| But he still was in awe of how it happened. | ||
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I love that guy. | |
| I love that guy too. | ||
| I never met him, but... | ||
| He was awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I miss him. | ||
| Yeah, there's plenty of people that do go to Vegas who are like, this is so annoying. | ||
| Just kids running around. | ||
| Not kids, but young adults running around. | ||
| Especially today, in their bikinis. | ||
| People would like that. | ||
| But in any case, it's... | ||
| Yeah, it's also different for the casino operators because they're dealing with this younger generation of people too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they have to think differently about how they're going to get them to, you know, do what Vegas is meant to be, you know, what the economy is serving, gambling. | ||
| Yeah, well, they're paying to see you as well. | ||
| And alcohol sales as well. | ||
| I think alcohol sales have become a large, large portion of their revenue, right? | ||
| I think that, like, I could be wrong here, but the gambling side is actually a smaller portion than everything else. | ||
| I think that's true. | ||
| I think that's shifted. | ||
| I've read something about that recently, that entertainment has become the primary revenue source in Vegas, whereas it used to be gambling. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's, you know, there's still gambling, but... | ||
| Boy, it's hard to just convince young people to start gambling. | ||
| It's easy to convince them to start dancing. | ||
| It seems normal. | ||
| It's natural. | ||
| Also, when you're young, you don't have the money to just risk, but you have the money to go and experience fun. | ||
| When you're older, you're like, okay, I have some flexible income streams I can put down on some blackjack or whatnot. | ||
| I would have loved to have seen the Sinatra days, like Vegas when it was run by the mob. | ||
| I would have loved to have seen what that was like. | ||
| You know, the Rat Pack and Sammy Davis Jr. I just would love to have been in the room and watched one of those shows. | ||
| And then, you know, come to today and see how things have changed. | ||
| I mean, I think that's like the Bourdain thing. | ||
| He had been there when he was young and then see it change now. | ||
| But I am fascinated by change. | ||
| I don't resist it. | ||
| And I don't say, oh, the good old days. | ||
| That don't mean shit to me. | ||
| I am absolutely on the same page as you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm interested. | ||
| Yeah, I'm always interested in the next thing. | ||
| I want to try the next thing. | ||
| And you want to enhance your experience. | ||
| You want to enhance what you're doing to make it serve you better. | ||
| But if you went to someone in like 1985 and said, hey man, guess what? | ||
| 2019 electronic music is going to be the shit. | ||
| It's going to be everywhere. | ||
| People would go, what are you talking about? | ||
| Get this guy out of here, man. | ||
| There's one guy that did say that though. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Jim Morrison. | ||
| Did he really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So like he did a prediction. | ||
| It's like somewhere, I'm sure you can find it, but he did a prediction where... | ||
| Whenever he was alive, I guess, probably died in the 60s or 70s. | ||
| So he said, like, the future will be one person with some sort of computer or something that's going to be devised electronically or something like that, and that one person will be making music for people and performing that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| I remember this. | ||
| I remember this now. | ||
| Yeah, so I forgot what he said, but he said something to that effect, and it's crazy, because that was, what, 50 years ago? | ||
| Here, play this. | ||
| Take it from the beginning. | ||
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...indigenous to this country are the black music, blues, and the kind of folk music that was brought over from Europe, and I guess they call it country music, or the kind of West Virginia high and lonesome sound that Those are the two main streams of root American music. | |
| There might be others, I don't know. | ||
| But, like, ten years ago, what they called rock and roll was kind of a blending of those two forms. | ||
| I guess in four or five years, the new generation's music will be... | ||
| It'll have a synthesis of those two elements and some third thing. | ||
| It'll be entirely... | ||
| Maybe it'll be... | ||
| It might rely heavily on electronics, tapes. | ||
| I can kind of envision maybe one person with a lot of machines, tapes, and electronic setups. | ||
| Singing or speaking and using machines. | ||
| His mindset is what he considers what that would be. | ||
| He did predict where it is. | ||
| I think that's what happens when you do acid correctly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You get those sort of visions. | ||
| Yeah, because, I mean, also Jim Morrison, like, you could tell he's such an artist that, you know, he could, after The Doors, you just be himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, he would have done a Jim Morrison album where he's made all the music, he's done everything, he would be exactly what he's saying. | ||
| He's basically predicting what he would have, in my opinion, what he would become. | ||
| And he was probably like 25 in that video, which is even crazier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he died at 27. That's crazy. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| I mean, that whole era of the 1960s fascinates me to no end. | ||
| I love the cars. | ||
| I love the sound. | ||
| To this day, most of the music I listen to is classic rock. | ||
| I mean, I listen to a lot of new stuff, but man, I will pull out some fucking classic rock. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love listening to it. | ||
| There's something about it that makes me... | ||
| It just makes me realize what a profound change it was between the 1950s and the 1960s. | ||
| That the culture exploded. | ||
| That something happened. | ||
| Something happened and the clothes and the music and the sounds and the fucking muscle cars, like everything went haywire. | ||
| Like, you went from 1950 to 1960 and just a radical shift. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And so many great artists, you know, Hendrix and Janis Joplin. | ||
| Yeah, the whole idea of, like, okay, now it's time to experiment and to free ourselves from the confines of what, like, you know, it's supposed to... | ||
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Rigid. | |
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| The door's wide open. | ||
| I think Buddy Holly was great. | ||
| I love Buddy Holly. | ||
| But if you go from Buddy Holly to Hendrix, you're like, what happened? | ||
| What happened? | ||
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What happened? | |
| You know? | ||
| That's what acid trip actually goes, right? | ||
| Like you're saying. | ||
| Apparently, they said he used to put acid in his bandana. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that it would seep into his skin as he was playing. | ||
| And then he's just like lighting his guitar on fire and picking with his teeth. | ||
| Man, how much would you love to watch that guy live? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That must have been incredible to be in the presence of something completely unique, you know? | ||
| This hippie black dude who's the greatest guitarist of all time. | ||
| Still! | ||
| Still! | ||
| Like, there's no one. | ||
| Like, there's some amazing guys today. | ||
| Gary Clark Jr., and of course, you know, Stevie Ray Vaughan was amazing. | ||
| There's a bunch of great, amazing guitarists. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| But also the showmanship, though. | ||
| You know, the outfits. | ||
| It's like all of it combined, not just his technical ability. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The fact that he was doing these things that you're like, you know, some of the guitarists wouldn't do that. | ||
| That's not part of their, like, you know, protocol. | ||
| But he was just, like, on another world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to be a part of that, you know, to see that, that's incredible. | ||
| A complete outlier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yes. | ||
| And again, like, no one was like that before that. | ||
| Like, go to the 1940s. | ||
| It's only 20 years! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 1940s are only, I mean, 20 years ago is, you know, we're dealing with, you know, 1999. That doesn't seem that long ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But 69 to 49, you might as well be from another world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You really might as well be. | ||
| Might as well be another planet. | ||
| So what do you think was one of the bigger cultural shifts of why that happened? | ||
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Drugs! | |
| Simply. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, obviously, when we talk about Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles and... | ||
| The Beach Boys. | ||
| Like, whoever else was like, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The Doors. | |
| Janis Joplin, drugs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Drugs. | ||
| The Doors, drugs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everyone, drugs. | ||
| They were taking mind-expanding psychedelics, and the culture had shifted to embrace these mind-expanding psychedelics. | ||
| And there was also the resistance to the Vietnam War. | ||
| There was this rebellious movement. | ||
| There was these young, compassionate... | ||
| People that were trying to figure their way through life in a way that didn't resonate with the way their parents had set boundaries and standards, and they wanted out of all of it, that Goldwater Republican shit. | ||
| They wanted to be free and flower children and hippies and Woodstock and all that craziness, you know? | ||
| And what's amazing is how quickly it ended. | ||
| You know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So many things came along. | ||
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That's right. | |
| So many things came along. | ||
| The deaths. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The deaths scared people. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You know, at the end of the day, when they're dropping at 27, your heroes... | ||
| Morrison, Janis Joplin, Hendrix, all 27. And they're the leaders of this experimental revolution? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Not good. | ||
| That's going to end things pretty quick. | ||
| I think there was that. | ||
| There was also the sweeping psychedelic act of 1970 that made everything schedule one, and they were locking people up in jail. | ||
| There was a civil rights movement that was happening at the same time, and they were passing laws that were directly targeting The people in the civil rights movement because they knew that they were smoking grass and they were doing mushrooms. | ||
| So they were going after them with these drug laws and then, you know, they would arrest one person and they would turn on everybody else and then, you know, they would do like mob tactics on people. | ||
| And, you know, the whole thing, they just poured water on it. | ||
| It took, you know, it took like 10 or 20 years before shit started popping again. | ||
| You know, in terms of like the influence of psychedelic culture again. | ||
| Really more like 30 years. | ||
| It's like the 2000s where things started happening again, where people started becoming more and more aware of the positive benefits of psychedelic drugs and altered states of consciousness, not trying to escape reality, but trying to get a grip on reality from a different perspective. | ||
| You know, but I think... | ||
| That's an interesting, like, when I think about psychedelics in that regard of mind expansion or, you know, at the same time, it's like this uncontrolled situation that, like, okay, we're going to jump into this world, but there's no way to really control your lane. | ||
| It's just like this... | ||
| It's like, yes, we can go there, but it might not end up – you might get stuck there. | ||
| That's my problem with that. | ||
| You could get stuck. | ||
| I mean like you hear the horror stories and that scares the hell out of you. | ||
| Like this guy is still on an acid trip for 25 years walking around thinking people are chasing him. | ||
| Acid in particular. | ||
| Yeah, like shine on you crazy diamond. | ||
| And I think there's people that have a predisposition towards psychosis. | ||
| There's certain people that have schizophrenia in their genes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And for those people, it's very dangerous. | ||
| You know what else is very dangerous for those people? | ||
| Edible marijuana. | ||
| Not just like what you think of as hardcore psychedelics, but I've known quite a few people that have eaten edible marijuana and have blown fuses. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| There's something I just recently did, which is pretty exciting for me. | ||
| Once again, the scientific information, I'm just going to wing it. | ||
| But I tried this brain cap on. | ||
| This has all these nodules that can read the neurotransmitters in my brain. | ||
| And it's connected to a computer. | ||
| And you sit there for about a minute and you just kind of meditate on it, focus on one thing. | ||
| So it can start like reading your brain, basically your neurotransmission signals. | ||
| And it's kind of like neural feedback on steroids, if you know anything about neural feedback. | ||
| And it gave me a list of categories of what I want to know about who I am. | ||
| I always thought that I had a slight ADD. I never was diagnosed because if Joe Rogan's boring me, I might turn over here. | ||
| That seems normal. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| But I was like, I don't have that bad of ADD where I can't concentrate to get things done because I get things done. | ||
| But I do think about a lot more things than I think I should, maybe. | ||
| So anyways, I did this test, and it shows your signals coming. | ||
| And it has all these different things like anxiety, delusion, schizophrenia, attention, so forth. | ||
| Absolutely incredible. | ||
| I was like, okay, I'm scared to press this button, schizophrenia. | ||
| I'm really scared, but I want to know. | ||
| So it gives you the feeling of being schizophrenic? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It shows your brain activity if you have a tendency to be schizophrenic. | ||
| I thought you were saying like there's a way for that. | ||
| Like you want to feel what it feels like? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That's like in the future. | ||
| But like I want to see if like do I have the neural pathways that a schizophrenic person would – how they would think about the world. | ||
| So I clicked on that and I'm like – I'm good. | ||
| You know, I'm good. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| So, what about delusion? | ||
| Okay, anxiety, low. | ||
| Okay, so I got a lot of information out of that. | ||
| So, I guess the reason why I'm sharing that is that, you know, you should try this out. | ||
| I think it's something that I think you'd be interested in. | ||
| I am interested in it. | ||
| Do you know the name of the equipment? | ||
| Well, they flew to me, just like I'm saying. | ||
| Like, I love to meet groups and organizations and researchers and scientists, and these people... | ||
| I was putting it out to the world and they came, they flew all to me, some from Colorado, some from Toronto. | ||
| And they did this test on my head, on my brain. | ||
| So I'll get you information on that. | ||
| You can try it out and see if it's something that interests you. | ||
| But I'm sure it will. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| It's very exciting stuff. | ||
| I hope I'm not crazy. | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| What do you do if you find out you're really insane? | ||
| What if they put the thing on you? | ||
| And they're like, dude, you're fucked. | ||
| You haven't even seen results like this before. | ||
| You need to be locked up. | ||
| Then all of a sudden people come... | ||
| Well, you wouldn't even know it, right? | ||
| If you're really crazy, you think that the five people are on the corner chasing after you, they're always real. | ||
| Or maybe it's a beautiful mind kind of situation. | ||
| I still have a bit about the problem with dumb people is that they're too stupid to know they're dumb. | ||
| So they think everybody else is dumb. | ||
| That's a problem, right? | ||
| So if you're crazy, you might think everybody's crazy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh yeah, like the brain scan is making you crazy. | ||
| Or you might think that everybody else is crazy and then you do the brain scan like, no, no, no, it's you. | ||
| Yeah, you're tricking me. | ||
| You're doing something to me. | ||
| Have you ever met people that blame everyone else in their life for all their problems? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Sure. | ||
| And they can't see what we can see. | ||
| They can say, hey man, it's you. | ||
| You are causing all of your problems, but yet you never are self-critical. | ||
| You're looking externally for all of your issues. | ||
| You're criticizing everyone, but you are the architect of your own demise, and you don't even realize it. | ||
| I think that is one of the biggest problems for why people are not finding their own success. | ||
| Because they keep blaming other people for problems when they could use that same time to actually focus on a small success that's realistic in their trajectory or whatever they're doing. | ||
| And I've seen that a lot with some people I know. | ||
| They get stuck in that framework. | ||
| And then there might be people that enable that same mindset. | ||
| Yeah, it's patterns as well. | ||
| Like, sometimes people develop these defensive patterns in order to protect themselves from reality. | ||
| And they put up these psychic shields to sort of protect themselves from self-critical ideas or externally critical ideas. | ||
| And they just don't want to deal with change. | ||
| They want to pretend that they're the fucking man, that they're the coolest, that they get it, and everybody else is dumb. | ||
| And God, it's such a toxic way to view the world. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And the people that have that view gain no traction. | ||
| They almost always fall apart. | ||
| It's unsustainable. | ||
| It's not a way to live your life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking hard to see, too, man. | ||
| It's hard to see. | ||
| If you know someone that's like that, you almost kind of got to go, man, I'm walking away. | ||
| I can't help you anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think also for them, they see the success of other people, and they're like, they want to be that, but they're like, they obviously can't with... | ||
| They just blame everyone that they can't be that person, right? | ||
| Instead of just going, well, we've got to take these small baby steps to get out of this funk, and then eventually stop comparing yourself to other people, but compare yourself to yourself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Look at yourself critically, but I think another thing that's really important is to enjoy other people's success. | ||
| Instead of being jealous, which is a really common, easy-to-understand thing, Sort of an emotional reaction to other people's success. | ||
| The best way to look at it, in my opinion, the best way to look at it is look at someone else doing amazing things and go, fuck, this is amazing. | ||
| Look what they've done. | ||
| Be excited by it. | ||
| And then be inspired. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can use it as fuel in a positive way. | ||
| And then, also, there's no negative feeling. | ||
| That person doesn't have to feel like you're fucking giving them the sour face because you're jealous and bitter and weird and you're looking to be critical of them and find flaws in them. | ||
| Look at what they're doing. | ||
| If you were a guy who's coming up and you wanted to be a guy who makes electronic music, I'm sure you have haters. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| They're lined up. | ||
| Lined up. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why do you have haters? | ||
| Because you're fucking awesome. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Because what you're doing is fucking awesome. | ||
| So instead of saying, man, this guy is inexhaustible. | ||
| He's excited about what he's doing. | ||
| He's got a real passion for creating things. | ||
| People love it. | ||
| And your attitude about making these shows and giving these people this amazing time and how much focus and energy you put into it. | ||
| A hater should look at that and go, this... | ||
| I gotta do more of that. | ||
| I gotta do more of that. | ||
| I gotta get more invested. | ||
| But instead, they try to poke holes at you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This music's bullshit. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Fucking cakes. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That is a sore spot for people, too. | ||
| I'm sure it is! | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| Anything awesome is a sore spot for assholes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's nothing you can do about that. | ||
| You just have to... | ||
| You got to keep on being you, but for them, their hell and their prison is that they're focusing on you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, they're hating and focusing on you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| True words. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a weird world being an entertainer, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a different kind of lifestyle, you know. | ||
| I mean, actually, the strange thing is when I think about, like, Like fame or whatever, celebrityhood. | ||
| When I walk through certain areas, I have to just go, okay, I have to accept the photos. | ||
| I have to accept people coming up to me. | ||
| I want to be the asshole because I've been that kid going up to someone and they're mean to me and I'll be like oh that guy's a dick you know and they'll think of you that way for the rest of their life even if you're just in a bad day or some you know you just the one that bothers me the most is people coming up to you I had a guy come up to me last night in the middle of literally cutting food in a crowded restaurant. | ||
| And he's hovering over the table trying to get me to get up and take a photo. | ||
| I'm like, what if I did that for everybody? | ||
| This is a ridiculous request. | ||
| You shouldn't do that. | ||
| So what did you say? | ||
| I said, okay, let's take a picture. | ||
| I said, we're in the middle of a meal. | ||
| Not only that, we're in the middle of Andrew Schultz, my buddy, and we were in the middle of talking, too. | ||
| This guy just interrupted the conversation, wanted a picture. | ||
| I was like, there's a time and a place for it. | ||
| If you want to say, hey, when you're leaving, can I get a picture? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Well, you got a mouthful of food and you're cutting food and so I'm like, come on, you can't interrupt meals. | ||
| That is a ridiculous request. | ||
| That happens to me all the time. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| But you know what's really weird? | ||
| In LA, it doesn't happen to me that much. | ||
| Well, LA people are more accustomed to seeing famous people. | ||
| Yeah, and they're like, I don't want to... | ||
| They just get it. | ||
| They don't want to bug you as much. | ||
| But everywhere else... | ||
| LA and New York, I'm not really bothered as much. | ||
| Everywhere else, it's like... | ||
| I just have to accept it. | ||
| But you can't interrupt people while they're eating. | ||
| That is just one of those things. | ||
| Don't interrupt me when I'm eating. | ||
| Don't interrupt me when I'm talking to my kids. | ||
| It's a stupid thing to do. | ||
| You have to have manners. | ||
| You have to have some... | ||
| Sort of an understanding that this is a human being that is living their own life. | ||
| And even though you're a fan of them, your being a fan does not take precedent. | ||
| You can't just – they don't owe you this. | ||
| You can't just interrupt their life. | ||
| And you shouldn't want that. | ||
| You shouldn't want to interrupt someone in the middle of a conversation, in the middle of a meal, in the middle of talking to their children. | ||
| It's a foolish way to interact with them. | ||
| I remember one time I was – You know, in a deep conversation, just like you're talking about with someone outside of a casino, about to leave. | ||
| And this guy is just drunk. | ||
| And he's just like staring and like wobbling and like, you know, doing his thing. | ||
| And I just see him hovering. | ||
| And I'm not going to engage with him. | ||
| I'm just talking. | ||
| And finally I'm like, hey man, I'm just in the middle of a conversation and, you know, well, I didn't say we'll get a photo later. | ||
| I'm like, well, talk to you later because I didn't want to be presumptuous. | ||
| And I got done with the conversation and he was just very aggressive and I just ran. | ||
| I remember I ran to my car and I'm like, I just don't want to get into this, you know? | ||
| And he's chasing me. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
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Yeah, he's chasing me and just like, fuck you! | |
| I was your fan! | ||
| And you, like, treated me like shit! | ||
| This is how you treat your fans! | ||
| I'm like, oh my God, this is just too much, you know? | ||
| And it stays with you, you know? | ||
| Like, even though... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's part of the problem with Vegas, too. | ||
| They're at New Year's Eve level every night. | ||
| You know, there's like a thing for New Year's Eve. | ||
| I stopped doing shows a couple years ago on New Year's Eve because every time I would do them, I was like, why does everybody think it's okay to be an asshole tonight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People want to heckle. | ||
| They want to yell things out. | ||
| I was like, on New Year's Eve, I'm just going to stay home. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm just going to hang out. | ||
| I'm not going to do shows. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Because it just seems too chaotic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It just never feels good. | ||
| Never feels like a real show. | ||
| Well, Vegas is like, there's a lot of people that are running around, like, every night, like, what happens in Vegas? | ||
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It stays in Vegas. | |
| Oh! | ||
| They're just going crazy. | ||
| It's such a wild place. | ||
| It's a hall pass. | ||
| It's like, okay, we gotta go big. | ||
| We're here. | ||
| 24 hour drinking. | ||
| Free booze if you're gambling. | ||
| What a wacky thing. | ||
| We're going to give you a drug that fucks up your decision making and then you're going to gamble everything you have. | ||
| How is that legal? | ||
| How is that legal? | ||
| You're gambling enormous sums of money and they're giving you alcohol. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just so crazy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But I love it. | ||
| I love that it exists. | ||
| I love that there's a city where everything is kind of wild. | ||
| Where everything is like, things are open. | ||
| Like, I play pool. | ||
| And Vegas is one of the rare places where pool halls are 24 hours a day. | ||
| So you can play pool until 5 o'clock in the morning, 6 o'clock in the morning. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You know, and there'll be good players in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, people really appreciate pool. | ||
| And, you know, everything's 24. You can get good meals, like, really late at night. | ||
| Yeah, that's for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a wild place, man. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| But you, because you're a clean and sober guy, you avoid all the pitfalls. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's how it works for me. | ||
| I'm not a strip club guy. | ||
| I've learned my lesson on gambling. | ||
| Did you used to gamble? | ||
| I did. | ||
| What did you used to play? | ||
| Blackjack, mainly. | ||
| And that's just the worst odds for you. | ||
| What's the most you've ever lost in a night? | ||
| 50, 50K. | ||
| Dana White told me he lost a million bucks one night. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not at that level. | ||
| But he won seven million. | ||
| And then when he won seven million... | ||
| Okay, I'm a baby as far as that kind of losses. | ||
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He's crazy. | |
| Dana's crazy. | ||
| But they kicked him out of the casino. | ||
| They said he can't come back. | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem. | ||
| You actually win. | ||
| You do well for yourself when the odds are stacked against you and they kick you out. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Well, the crazy thing is he's just gambling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just happened to win. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What are we doing? | ||
| Is this really gambling? | ||
| Or are you just stealing money from people? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| The guy won and they're like, you're not allowed to play here anymore. | ||
| You know he's not stealing. | ||
| He's Dana White. | ||
| You know he's rich. | ||
| You know he's just a gambler. | ||
| So this is like real gambling. | ||
| This is not like some guy with some sort of a scheme and he's cheating. | ||
| Someone's doing something with the cards. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| No, he's actually gambling and you're mad at him. | ||
| You're mad because you lost. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's so crazy they could just kick you out for following the rules. | |
| And you can't come back. | ||
| They'll ban you from the casino. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I almost wish I was like, can I get to that level? | ||
| I was like, can I get there where I've just won that much? | ||
| Fuck that, man. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| I don't gamble at all. | ||
| I used to gamble on fights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then I was like, maybe I shouldn't be doing this because I'm doing commentary on these fights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Conflict of interest. | ||
| But that was the early days, like the early 2000s, like 2003 and 2004 and shit like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because they would have some wacky numbers back then, too. | ||
| Like, guys would come in from other organizations, and these oddsmakers didn't know who they were, and I was a fanatic. | ||
| So I knew who everybody was. | ||
| I knew these guys were fighting in Japan. | ||
| I was like, bet on this motherfucker. | ||
| Because there was times where a guy was the favorite, and I was like, that guy has no chance. | ||
| Like, he's going to get murked. | ||
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Yeah, right. | |
| And I was right like 80% of the time. | ||
| Like, my friend Aubrey and I, I've given him tips. | ||
| I give him tips now because I don't gamble myself on it. | ||
| But we're like at an 86% winning rate. | ||
| But why stop then? | ||
| Because you're commentating. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| There's no law against it. | ||
| I can't affect the outcome. | ||
| But I don't want to be... | ||
| Psychologically, I don't want to be subliminally influenced or subconsciously influenced, like wanting someone to win. | ||
| If you've got $10,000 riding in a fight, you're going to want that guy to win. | ||
| I don't care how much of a professional you are. | ||
| When someone loses, you're going to be like, fuck! | ||
| What are you fucking, man? | ||
| The whole thing is you're supposed to be there to do justice to the experience of these two guys going at it and giving their all. | ||
| You're not supposed to be hoping one guy wins. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| It's also really hard for me when a friend's fighting. | ||
| When Daniel Cormier fights, it's very hard for me. | ||
| To see him very hard. | ||
| Like the last fight with Stipe, and I love Stipe too, but to watch Stipe beat the shit out of Daniel was rough. | ||
| It was hard. | ||
| Because Daniel is such a good guy. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| And to watch him eat those left hooks to the body and then get beaten down, I was like, oh. | ||
| Oh, that must be hard. | ||
| And I'm commentating on it. | ||
| Like, it's an amazing thing I'm watching, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| It is amazing. | ||
| So it's hard to separate. | ||
| You know, when Brendan Shaw was fighting, it was the hardest. | ||
| That was the hardest. | ||
| Because I was good friends with him. | ||
| And I knew he really didn't want to fight anymore. | ||
| And I was like, God damn it. | ||
| That must be really hard. | ||
| It was really hard. | ||
| When he doesn't want to fight anymore and he's just getting beaten. | ||
| He was getting beaten and he was getting beaten bad. | ||
| And I didn't see an end to it. | ||
| Who's the guy with the nose that went crooked like this? | ||
| Recently, Mike Perry. | ||
| Oh, that picture's crazy. | ||
| I can't believe someone can continue fighting when their nose is literally across their face. | ||
| That dude's a savage. | ||
| I mean, you have to be a savage. | ||
| He's a 100% bonafide, dyed-in-the-wool savage. | ||
| Like, he literally, like, imagine what he's fighting through when he has his nose over here. | ||
| His face has to be completely numb. | ||
| Well, no, no, no. | ||
| Massive pain. | ||
| Massive pain. | ||
| Sinuses are one of the most sensitive areas of your face. | ||
| When you get your nose shattered, first of all, you can't see. | ||
| Your eyes are watering, and his nose is pouring blood. | ||
| So he's getting choked, right? | ||
| He's in the middle of getting choked. | ||
| Look at his nose. | ||
| That is the worst fucking nose I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| Of all the years of calling fights, the only thing that comes close is Rich Franklin when he fought Anderson Silva. | ||
| Pull up Rich Franklin's nose versus Anderson Silva and you'll see similar but not quite as horrific. | ||
| But the thing is, Rich Franklin was bummed out about his nose, whereas Mike Perry was like, fuck yeah. | ||
| Look at the one on the far left, right there, far left, far left, far left, right there. | ||
| Click that one. | ||
| That's the one where Anderson Silva sort of reconstructed his nose. | ||
| It's hard to see in that picture make it larger. | ||
| So that's his nose after? | ||
| Yeah, it's all shifted off to the left. | ||
| See how it looks all fucked up? | ||
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Wow. | |
| But that ain't shit compared to Mike Perry's. | ||
| Mike Perry's is the worst nose in the history of the sport. | ||
| I mean, what does he look like now? | ||
| Who's that guy's nose? | ||
| Click on that one in the middle. | ||
| Above. | ||
| Above. | ||
| Looks like Gronk a little bit. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
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Wow. | |
| Whose fucking nose is that? | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| It went up into his forehead, it looked like. | ||
| Yeah, his worst nose breaks in the UFC. Who is that dude? | ||
| Yeah, he looks like half his nose is up in his eyelids. | ||
| Oh my god, that's just swelling, right? | ||
| But look how March shift. | ||
| Ryan McGilvray. | ||
| Woo, that's rough. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, not gonna get hit in the nose. | ||
| He's still smiling. | ||
| There's Shogun's nose got fucked up too. | ||
| I think that was against Jon Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kung Lee. | ||
| Kung Lee's nose got shattered. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| And then you got to get it all reconstructed and they got to sort of stitch the bones back together again. | ||
| Because if you get this bone shatters, I'm like, oh, man, there's not much there. | ||
| You know, it's such a time. | ||
| If you feel that bone, it's like so gentle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So delicate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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If you take a knee there, like, oh, that's how they're breaking it, right? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He's all right now. | ||
| Wow, he looks pretty good. | ||
| Damn, they did an amazing job. | ||
| He's eating pizza. | ||
| Is that Aoki pizza? | ||
| But the crazy thing is his nose looked like the worst situation that you could possibly get in, and his nose now looks pretty normal, where the other guys' noses are just like that one guy with the bulge right by his eyebrows, and his nose is still curved to the right, and he's smiling like... | ||
| You'd assume Mike Perry would have that kind of nose after that kind of situation. | ||
| No, that guy's right after the fight. | ||
| Mike Perry had to go through extensive surgery overseas. | ||
| Where does that fight take place? | ||
| Uruguay? | ||
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Uruguay, yeah. | |
| South America. | ||
| Yeah, so he had to stay there and get really extensive surgery. | ||
| He was there for several days just to try to recover before he could fly home. | ||
| The scary thing is he's gonna get back in the ring. | ||
| Fuck yeah he is. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| And then that bone that he's gonna have is gonna break down again. | ||
| Is it gonna be weaker? | ||
| Or is it gonna... | ||
| I wish I could tell you. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, it really depends entirely. | ||
| Because imagine if it just shatters again. | ||
| He's gotta do it again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Vandali Silva got his nose reconstructed. | ||
| What is this? | ||
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Not a UFC, but it's called... | |
| EFC? EFC in Africa? | ||
| Kicked in the face. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh my god, that's the worst nose ever. | ||
| That's worse than Mike Perry's. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| Oh my god, yeah. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Look at that guy's nose. | ||
| That's the one that grew on his head. | ||
| The other guy on the bottom is a guy who got his nose damaged somehow or another and they grew it on his head. | ||
| It's a hard business, man. | ||
| What kind of exercise do you do? | ||
| I like HIIT training. | ||
| High intensity stuff. | ||
| Yeah, high intensity. | ||
| And, you know, kind of like blending two worlds. | ||
| You know, I stopped gambling in the casino, but I love gambling with my friends. | ||
| And I love making prop bets on, you know, just my recent one was a body fat challenge. | ||
| Because I was at 19.6 April 14th. | ||
| 19%? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I dropped to, well, the bet was if I can drop to 10% in three months. | ||
| Oh, that's easy. | ||
| Well, maybe for someone that really understands how to do that. | ||
| But like, you know, I wanted to get there and I just like, when I work out, I kind of work out just on being healthy and cardiovascular and just like, you know, just staying in shape. | ||
| But I didn't, I never thought I'd get below 10%. | ||
| You must have changed your diet pretty well. | ||
| Cut out sugar, cut out bread, cut out pasta, all that stuff. | ||
| Stay below 1800 calories. | ||
| And you are vegetarian still? | ||
| No, I eat chicken and fish, but I stopped eating. | ||
| I don't eat any cows, pork, pig, or lamb or anything like that. | ||
| But I pretty much stay with chicken and fish, my proteins. | ||
| And are you... | ||
| Look at you. | ||
| Motherfucker working out. | ||
| Looking pretty shredded. | ||
| You're way below 10% there. | ||
| What are you there? | ||
| I think I'm 12. Really? | ||
| Right there? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Where are you keeping your fat? | ||
| In your brain? | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| You look shredded. | ||
| No, it's in my abs. | ||
| I mean, I'm probably where I am now because the bet ended in July 14th. | ||
| But I did win the bet, so I made 15 grand for my friends. | ||
| Yeah, that's funny. | ||
| But that's like how I'm motivated to do things. | ||
| I like to make bets with people to have these little challenges. | ||
| And then with that timeline, then I work with my trainer who's holding the towel down. | ||
| And he trains me every time I'm home. | ||
| And he gets me on my meal plans. | ||
| So I deal with him all the time. | ||
| Do you do like a meal prep service? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I do it through his company. | ||
| What's the name of his company? | ||
| Diced Kitchen, I think. | ||
| He's your friend. | ||
| Yeah, but my assistant puts it in the fridge. | ||
| But it's all like chicken and vegetables? | ||
| Yeah, pretty much. | ||
| Turkey, chicken, fish, and then veggies. | ||
| And you drop down to 1,800 calories a day? | ||
| Drop down to 1800 calories a day and the hard part is I'm on the road more than 60% of the day is when I was not touring across Europe. | ||
| And when I'm touring across Europe, all summer long I'm gone. | ||
| So how are you getting, like, really healthy food every meal when you're doing this? | ||
| I round ball, you know, eyeball kind of my calorie count whenever I eat, and I have MyFitnessPal as my judge. | ||
| Who is that, MyFitnessPal? | ||
| Is that an app? | ||
| It's an app, yeah, Under Armour app, that, like, I just put in all my food. | ||
| So you just use it to just make sure that I'm eyeballing this 1800 calorie deficit kind of diet. | ||
| And then, you know, just avoid the over-starchy, over-carby foods and focus more on eating the proteins and the veggies. | ||
| Do you take vitamins or supplements? | ||
| Yeah, I try to switch it on and off. | ||
| Like I said, after I met Ray, I was like, okay, I need to just find out what I'm deficient in. | ||
| I'm going to just load up on those. | ||
| And then I went to see Dr. Grossman, who kind of gave me my 22-page pack of my telomere links to cancer markers, if I have them, to what I'm allergic to, to what I'm deficient in. | ||
| And then I followed that regimen of what the vitamins I was taking, some of which I still take. | ||
| One is called Cellurgen. | ||
| It's kind of like the closest thing to a stem cell injection if you can, if you can swallow it. | ||
| It's got a lot of anti-aging properties in it. | ||
| Cellurgen? | ||
| Cellurgen. | ||
| What's in it? | ||
| Look it up and you could do your Joe Rogan research on that and give me some more. | ||
| But I just trusted my doctor on this one. | ||
| But it's expensive. | ||
| It's like $10 a pill. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Pull that up. | ||
| Cellargen. | ||
| Jamie has a skeptical hippo face. | ||
| And I also take Progert. | ||
| Progert? | ||
| Yeah, so it's one trillion probiotics. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| It's in a little... | ||
| Like, I take that every day. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| You know, for the bio... | ||
| Swiss cell therapy. | ||
| Cellargen. | ||
|
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Hmm... | |
| Hello there. | ||
| Thank you for visiting Selergen's online store. | ||
| Pop-up window. | ||
| Boink. | ||
| So, um... | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| This is... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| $2,000 for six months. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| It is expensive. | ||
| It's very expensive. | ||
| And what is it backed by? | ||
| Cellular marine complex, peptide, E-collagen, bio-DNA, hydro-MN peptide. | ||
| Sounds like you're going to piss hot, sir. | ||
| Other ingredients include lutein, grape skin extract, selenium, which is important, coenzyme Q10. I take that. | ||
| That's one thing that Ray Kurzweil really pushes is that Q10. Yeah, it's great for cognitive function. | ||
| Do you fuck around with mushrooms at all? | ||
| I mean like healthy mushrooms, like lion's mane or anything like that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Really good stuff. | ||
| That's what I've been drinking. | ||
| This is all lion's mane elixir. | ||
| I'll try that out. | ||
| Yeah, I drink this shit all the time. | ||
| It supports brain function. | ||
| Yeah, that's like anything that's about the brain, I want to know more about. | ||
| Yeah, this is one of my sponsors. | ||
| This is Four Sigmatic. | ||
| I'll have them send you some of this stuff. | ||
| Please, please. | ||
| And then we actually have Lion's Mane that we put in the coffee, too. | ||
| And then Laird Hamilton Superfood shit. | ||
| Have you seen that coffee machine that I have out here? | ||
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No. | |
| Ooh, I'm going to get you some. | ||
| Do you drink coffee? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| Okay, we wrap this up. | ||
| I'll make you a nice cup of turmeric coffee. | ||
| Oh, I love turmeric coffee. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Laird Hamilton has this amazing machine out there that he gave us. | ||
| We got one of the first machines, and he mixes coconut oil, coconut milk, turmeric, organic coffee, and it's fucking delicious, and it's actually very good for you. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then he also has this bag of mushrooms, cordyceps mushrooms, and lion's mane. | ||
| You can scoop that in there. | ||
| But lion's mane in particular is one I'm really interested in because it supports brain function. | ||
| Have you seen the work of Paul Stamets? | ||
| Do you know who he is? | ||
| is no i'll turn you on to him um and send you a link to the podcast i did with him he'll blow your fucking mind when he's talking about the power of functional mushrooms not just mushrooms like psychedelic mushrooms which he's into that as well he thinks that psychedelic mushrooms in low doses are like one of the most powerful nootropics that you could have like micro dosing yeah | ||
| Yeah, but instead of getting blitz out of your mind and going into another dimension, you're taking just a little bit every day, just a little tiny bit, and it gives you this overwhelming feeling of operating at a very high function. | ||
| It's a weird feeling, but that micro-dosing psilocybin thing is swept through the fighter community. | ||
| There's a lot of fighters that are training while they're micro-dosing mushrooms. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Why are they doing that? | ||
| Why is it trainers? | ||
| Well, Donald Cerrone is really into it. | ||
| And a few other fighters have followed suit. | ||
| And Donald, I think, started doing it because of Joe Schilling, who's a world champion kickboxer and is fighting for Bellator now. | ||
| And they just find that there's something about the way it interacts, the way the psilocybin, particularly in low doses, interacts with your brain. | ||
| It just seems to supercharge your ability to understand what a person is doing, specifically according to Joe, when he's sparring with people. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He says he almost can read their minds. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's really interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very, very interesting. | ||
| I know a lot of people, a lot of skiers like to microdose. | ||
| It's becoming a thing where people try to take a functional amount. | ||
| So you're not getting blitzed. | ||
| What is a functional amount? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Good question. | ||
| Like a stem. | ||
| Like a little drop? | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, the best way to find out what it would be would be to grind it up so you know the exact ounces and then put it in a capsule and then figure it out. | ||
| And I think that's what a lot of these guys are doing. | ||
| It's just very unfortunate that that is a Schedule I drug. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Because it's a natural life form that grows on Earth. | ||
| It's a fungus. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not a drug. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's got some pretty potent... | ||
| Positive qualities to it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But outside of, you know, anything that's psychoactive or psychedelic, that lion's mane stuff is the shit. | ||
| Well, let's put it in this water right now then. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
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Here you go, baby. | |
| It's going to be my Elon Musk smoking weed moment right now. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Nobody gets high off lion's mane. | ||
| I'll cut that open for you. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| So, other than that, other than this cell stuff, what is it again? | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| Cellogen? | ||
| I wish I had, like, someone from my team kind of give me my whole list. | ||
| Because I take something for... | ||
| I take a lot of brain cognitive stuff that I... Oh, yeah? | ||
| Metropics? | ||
| Some might be considered that way, but it's from my doctor that, you know, from what... | ||
| I do enough research on the doctors and they tell me kind of what I should take and I go, okay, let's try this out and see if my performance increases. | ||
| And then I stop. | ||
| So I'll do it for like a month and I'll stop and I'll take a different like, you know, I have like two different routes of vitamins and I take a different route and see if that changes my patterns or how I'm, you know, what my performance is like. | ||
| And I kind of like just experiment over and over again. | ||
| Have you ever done an isolation tank? | ||
| Floating in a... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I love that. | ||
| Do you do that? | ||
| I did it twice. | ||
| It's very new to me, but it's incredible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You need one of those in your life. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You should get one of those in your crazy fun house. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I was thinking about that. | ||
| There is one place in Henderson where I live that does that, so I was going to do that first there. | ||
| Yeah, do it, man. | ||
| We have one here. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like the last two years, like the ice plunges, I just learned that, the Wim Hof method. | ||
| Love that, love that. | ||
| Wim Hof's amazing. | ||
| I've never met him in person. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I know he's in your lane, friends. | ||
| He's a character, man. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen the documentary. | ||
| He's like, that's what the Vice documentary... | ||
| That guy doesn't watch his diet at all. | ||
| He drinks beer and eats spaghetti. | ||
| Like, he's fucking ridiculous. | ||
| He doesn't give a shit. | ||
| He goes to Everest fucking barefoot. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, he climbs Everest in his shorts. | ||
| It's like, it's too easy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But he gets other people to do it with him to show that, like, anyone could do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| He is a unique human being. | ||
| Like, a really true, truly unique human being in the sense that... | ||
| He's just talking about breathing. | ||
| He's not talking about doing some sort of incredible athletics that, you know, a rare few people can achieve. | ||
| No, he's talking about concentrating on your breathing and understanding how you can inhale like deeper breaths and concentrate on the breath and that in doing so you're changing your physiological state and he's got a whole program that shows you how to do it correctly and it enhances your immune system and enhances your awareness and it's Wild shit, man. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I try to do that breath work whenever I possibly can. | ||
| There's two people that I've worked with that trained underneath WIM. One of them is in Mallorca, Spain. | ||
| So whenever I'm in Mallorca, Spain, I meet up with him. | ||
| We do the breath work, holding breath exercises, and then we do the ice bath. | ||
| And then I have one that's based in San Diego, this woman, and she comes out to Vegas. | ||
| And then I like to do the group dynamic ice bath. | ||
| So I have this, like... | ||
| It's a pool that's not an ice bath, but it's 50 degrees. | ||
| So it's cold enough to feel it. | ||
| That's fucking cold. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So I get whoever wants to join me, we do this group kind of... | ||
| You know, huddle, we get in there, we come out, we do the breath work, hold our breath, you know, and it's a great way to get people together and experience something like that, too. | ||
| No, that's awesome, man. | ||
| The UFC Training Center, the Performance Institute in Vegas, has this hot bath right next to a cold plunge, and they have people going back and forth between the two. | ||
| Have you ever been to that place? | ||
| Yeah, I shot my music video there because I had Bruce Buffer featuring on a song of mine called It's Time. | ||
| Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
| It's funny I didn't bring that up earlier because you're so tied in with UFC, but we shot the video there. | ||
| I was training to fight the other DJ that I made the song with. | ||
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You were training to fight a DJ? Well, I mean, the video is like... | |
| Oh, the video you're training to fight the DJ. Right. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| At the UFC facility. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And this legendary UFC fighter, I'm spacing out his name, he was training me, so it was kind of cool to have him there with me. | ||
| What did he look like? | ||
| Well, you could pick up the video. | ||
| Okay, I'll find him. | ||
| Can I run and use the bathroom real quick? | ||
| Yeah, sure, sure. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| I'm going to hold this pitch. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| So we're watching it on the video. | ||
| Aoki versus Luke. | ||
| There's Bruce Buffer. | ||
| So who's training him though? | ||
| There's all these people running around. | ||
| Bruce Buffer. | ||
| Who is training him? | ||
| I don't see any UFC guy training him. | ||
| But you keep jumping ahead. | ||
| We're not going to see it. | ||
| Not focusing on... | ||
| It's too quick. | ||
| Yeah, but who is that? | ||
| Oh, it's Ken Shamrock! | ||
| I'll show him eventually here. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| Ken Shamrock screaming in his face with sunglasses on. | ||
| He's a trip, isn't he? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's a very interesting guy. | ||
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Yeah, cake me. | |
| Cake me. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's so interesting when you see all these different people have these different paths in life. | ||
| And you go, oh, okay, you could go down that path too. | ||
| You know, like the Steve Aoki path is so different than most paths. | ||
| And I think that one of the cooler things about talking to people is... | ||
| You get this sense that the way you can live your life is not as rigid as people would have you believe. | ||
| They'd have you believe that there's only a few different ways to go about this. | ||
| There's not that much variability. | ||
| We're saying nice things about you. | ||
| You just returned. | ||
| It was Ken Shamrock. | ||
| He was the legendary fighter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he was like, you know, when you do, when you're like, I was hanging like this and he just like slapped my stomach and stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We were watching it. | ||
| Sunglasses screaming at you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Do you do any martial arts training? | ||
| You know, strangely enough, like my, my biggest hero growing up is Bruce Lee. | ||
| So, you know, in the beginning I started wanting to learn Jeet Kune Do and, you know. | ||
| Did you see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| There's a scene in there that's very negative about Bruce Lee. | ||
| I love the movie. | ||
| I really enjoyed it. | ||
| I'm a huge Tarantino fan. | ||
| I think it's awesome. | ||
| I heard there's controversy around that, but I didn't see that. | ||
| It's very, very controversial. | ||
| Because he made Bruce Lee look like a buffoon. | ||
| Oh, that sucks. | ||
| A really arrogant buffoon. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And I don't. | ||
| I don't think there's any evidence that he was ever really like that. | ||
| But, you know, Tarantino sort of dug his heels in and sort of defended it. | ||
| But I don't think he knows the culture because he's not a martial artist. | ||
| I think he looked at Bruce Lee as sort of like... | ||
| This historical figure that's, you know, kicking people's asses in movies. | ||
| And I think to understand Bruce Lee the way you do or the way I do, where he was my childhood hero as well. | ||
| It's like he's the guy that's really responsible for mixing martial arts. | ||
| When you talk about mixed martial arts, like, all credit has to go to the Gracies because they're the ones who, you know, Helsing Gracie and Horian and Hoyce and Hickson and that family was responsible for really showing people jujitsu and also Horian invented the UFC. So without Horian and his contributions, we might not have ever known what we know today. | ||
| But Bruce Lee was on that path a long time ago. | ||
| He had figured out a long time ago that you've got to find what's useful in all different styles of martial arts. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's also deeply entrenched in philosophy. | ||
| He was a brilliant guy. | ||
| So they made him look like this buffoon in the movie. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| I didn't like it. | ||
| That's like one of the main things about Bruce Lee that I loved about him was his philosophy. | ||
| He had a lot of things to say about life. | ||
| The martial arts was one thing that's like what made him cool, made him such a badass, but it's his philosophy, the words behind all that, and how it can reflect on everyone. | ||
| Be like water. | ||
| And the best part for me is that he's an Asian face. | ||
| Because, I mean, at the end of the day, you think about what's out there in the media and popular culture. | ||
| You don't see an Asian face that's loved by all different ethnicities. | ||
| Yeah, he's the number one. | ||
| He's the, like, every, doesn't matter if you're black, white, brown, purple, yellow, whatever you are, you like, you have to honor, like, one of the greats. | ||
| Everybody likes Bruce Lee. | ||
| And he's Asian, so he represents something very powerful for Asian people. | ||
| How many Chinese dudes got laid because of Bruce Lee? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Fuck, man. | |
| The numbers probably... | ||
| If you think about the main... | ||
| How many Chinese people that got laid with non-Chinese women? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| A lot! | ||
| Because at the end of the day, women love Bruce Lee. | ||
| Everybody loves Bruce Lee. | ||
| Yeah, everyone. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| And there hasn't been someone like that. | ||
| You know, that has that striking feeling that's Asian in popular culture like that. | ||
| He's also like the first guy that was really shredded in movies. | ||
| You know, he'd take his shirt off. | ||
| Yeah, he definitely got that stance. | ||
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He was fucking shredded. | |
| And you would look at him and you'd go, God, that guy's body's ridiculous. | ||
| Everybody wanted that body. | ||
| Everybody wanted to be lean and muscular. | ||
| That's where I got my room at my house, that Bruce Lee room. | ||
| Yeah, Game of Death, right? | ||
| Was that Game of Death or End of the Dragon? | ||
| That's End of the Dragon. | ||
| At least for me, I got the mirror room from End of the Dragon, but the mirror room scene is way more mirrors, like kind of in different degrees. | ||
| Yeah, it was End of the Dragon, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was End of the Dragon. | ||
| Fuck, that was a good movie. | ||
| And for the time, those movies, you know, people don't like them or do like them. | ||
| What's interesting about Bruce is the style of fighting in those movies, like jumping, flying kicks and all that stuff, that's not what he advocated at all. | ||
| He did that purely for the cinematic value of it. | ||
| He wanted to make it exciting and flashy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he was all about kicking people in the knees and punching people in the throat. | ||
| You know, he was about, like, really effective techniques that you could use to end a fight in seconds. | ||
| That was what he was all about. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But what he did do was there was like two big bursts in martial arts and Bruce Lee was responsible in my opinion for the first. | ||
| He was responsible for getting people excited about training martial arts and seeing this guy that could kick everybody's ass and like this guy was like he was quiet and humble but you know when it came time to throw down and take his shirt off and fuck everybody up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then the next stage was the UFC. Those were like, in my lifetime, the two big, and really culturally, the two big leaps in martial arts was people getting into Bruce Lee because of getting into martial arts because of Bruce Lee movies. | ||
| And then, of course, Chuck Norris movies. | ||
| And then the next one was getting into martial arts because of the UFC. Right. | ||
| So it was a bummer that they made him look like a dope. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| I was excited to watch that movie because I thought that Bruce Lee was going to look like a badass. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because in the trailer, you're like, oh no, Bruce Lee's in there. | ||
| It's going to be cool with Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Quentin Tarantino. | ||
| It's going to be epic. | ||
| It's a fucking great movie, though. | ||
| Don't let it hold you back, because the movie's fun as shit. | ||
| I really enjoyed it. | ||
| I like all his movies. | ||
| I loved Hateful Eight. | ||
| A lot of people don't like Hateful Eight. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| I think his movies are... | ||
| If you're into a Tarantino movie, I like his style of making movies. | ||
| Pulp Fiction. | ||
| Django. | ||
| They're wild ass fucking movies. | ||
| They're great films. | ||
| Absolutely great films. | ||
| Such a fan. | ||
| I'm just glad he's out there. | ||
| Because there's moments in that movie where... | ||
| I'm not going to give anything away. | ||
| But there's moments in Hollywood where you go, I can't believe you could still do this in a movie. | ||
| In this day and age, you're allowed to do that in a movie? | ||
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He goes hard in the paint. | |
| But the Bruce Lee things, you know, whatever. | ||
| It wasn't real. | ||
| The real Bruce Lee is what's interesting and exciting to me. | ||
| I mean, that's where, like, my record label, Dimock, it's, you know, you know what Dimock is. | ||
| I mean, it's not necessarily tied to Bruce Lee, but it's my way of, like, you know, instead of calling it Bruce Lee Records, or I love Bruce Lee Records, I was like, well, this is this mysterious death touch. | ||
| And, you know, there's, like I said, this mystery around that that's connected sort of to Bruce Lee. | ||
| There's, yeah, it would be really interesting if there really was a dim mock, like a mysterious death touch, if it was real. | ||
| But a lot of fucking people believe in it. | ||
| Have you ever seen those videos on Instagram? | ||
| When that old man goes tof, tof, tof, tof, tof. | ||
| And people fall down? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is McDojoLife on Instagram. | ||
| It's got a shitload of them. | ||
| This guy just collects them all. | ||
| And there's so many of them that are so ridiculous. | ||
| I posted one a couple of days ago of this... | ||
| It looks like an Aikido guy. | ||
| And he's just, like, doing this... | ||
| Like, watch this video. | ||
| The guy comes at him. | ||
| He's, like, pushes him away. | ||
| Oh, I make you fall down. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| It's, like, so goofy. | ||
| He's standing there like... | ||
| Oh, you fall down. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| You are on the ground. | ||
| You have no power here. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
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This guy's playing like he believes it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so fucking corny. | ||
| It's like those evangelical preachers that they touch someone's head and the guy's falling over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're all practicing it. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Like, they're all practicing all this nonsense that will get you killed in a real fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And these guys are leaving their house. | ||
| They're putting on their fucking outfit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They really think that this is real. | ||
| This is actually happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so corny. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| What you gonna do? | ||
| But listen, man, I really enjoyed talking to you. | ||
| I appreciate you coming out here. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Your book, Blue, The Color of Noise, is available right now, right? | ||
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It is. | |
| It's out everywhere. | ||
| Did you do the audio book? | ||
| Did you read it? | ||
| I read the... | ||
| There's drops in there. | ||
| It's what I call drops. | ||
| They're like these small little chapters between the chapters. | ||
| So I read those. | ||
| I tried to read the whole book, but I was touring all summer. | ||
| So I could only read the drops. | ||
| That's too bad, man. | ||
| I'd like to hear you read it. | ||
| Especially since it's your life. | ||
| Yeah, there is like 10 drops. | ||
| So you can hear me talk about it in my tone, in my voice. | ||
| And if people want to catch your live show, where can they get information on where to go? | ||
| SteveAoki.com. | ||
| Everything Steve Aoki online. | ||
| It's pretty simple. | ||
| Alright, well thank you brother. | ||
| Appreciate it man. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you for having me. |
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