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Aug. 21, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1339 - Everlast
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everlast
01:35:47
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joe rogan
01:25:21
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bobby green
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
What is that thing you say when you clink glasses?
everlast
Sláinte is like the Irish, you know, salute or, you know, now strovia.
It's just the Irish version.
joe rogan
Sláinte?
Sláinte.
everlast
Yeah, like S-L-A-I-N-T-E, I believe is how it's spelled.
unidentified
Sláinte.
joe rogan
I never knew that.
You said it before and I always just let it slide because I didn't want to seem like a dork.
You know?
everlast
I'm probably saying it real...
I mean, like, you know, Gaelic is some real harsh...
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Like, vowels and...
Gaelic's crazy.
It's crazy.
Like, I've seen Gaelic names that, like, were spelt insane and it was...
Oh, that's pronounced Sean.
Like some crazy shit like that.
joe rogan
That's a wild, ancient language, right?
everlast
Yeah, for real, though.
joe rogan
I love Irish people, man.
I'm fucking fascinated by the wildness of that culture.
everlast
That's why God made whiskey, you know, so the Irish would never rule the world.
joe rogan
When you see a guy like Conor McGregor, that part of what is him is Irish.
He's like a pure, brilliant Irish.
You know what I'm talking about?
everlast
For sure.
joe rogan
Bulls full, bad motherfucker.
Knows how to take a loss.
Knows how to take a loss.
Takes a loss like a man.
And still talks shit.
everlast
Come right back tomorrow.
It's like that guy that you fight, but he loses, but you know you're going to have to fight him tomorrow.
joe rogan
Yes.
everlast
Or as soon as his shit is healed up and the busted up-ness is gone.
joe rogan
He's got like $100 million in the bank.
He still wants to fight people.
Still smacking people at bars.
everlast
Yeah, that's...
unidentified
What is he doing?
joe rogan
It's hard.
everlast
What is he doing?
joe rogan
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
everlast
No, not that.
joe rogan
Who knows what the fuck the guy said to him.
But it looked like the guy was old as fuck.
Someone said he was only 50. That the guy was only 50. Dude didn't fold up, though.
everlast
He just kind of sat at the bar.
joe rogan
Conor didn't really.
everlast
Yeah, he slacked him.
He gave him a smack in the back of the head.
joe rogan
Gave him a couple of fingers.
He touched him.
everlast
He did what we call mushed him.
He mushed him.
joe rogan
Yes.
everlast
It can kind of be interpreted as hitting, but it really ain't quite a hit.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you're a guy like that, you're basically walking around agreeing not to fuck people up.
Because you have to kind of agree to not fuck people up.
everlast
The money he's got, there should be like five guys around him that make sure that never happens.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they can't listen to him.
Like, if you have a guy like him, he's going to do whatever he wants.
Even if there's a bunch of people around him stopping him.
You're not going to stop him from doing checks.
When he threw that guy's phone down the ground, stomped it in Miami, there was all the bodyguards there.
He just did it.
He just did it.
He's Conor McGregor.
He's living like you're supposed to live if you're Conor McGregor.
The dance is, don't go to jail, dude.
Don't get locked up.
everlast
And it's also the whole structure of the way things are now as far as entertainment.
It's all about eyeballs.
joe rogan
Well, he fucking figured it out, man.
everlast
He figured it out.
joe rogan
He figured it out, man.
Like, in the most crazy way possible.
He figured out how to just blow up the whole system.
And you're a guy who has been fighting.
I mean, I contacted him on Twitter in, like, 2013. Right?
By 2018, he's worth $100 million.
everlast
Yeah, so quick.
unidentified
Quick.
everlast
And he called it all the way.
And he called it all the way.
That's the craziest part.
He called it all the way.
unidentified
Like, I'm going to be a billionaire or a multimillionaire.
joe rogan
You know what Dana White said to me once about him that's dead on?
He said he eats pressure.
He said that guy eats pressure.
He just eats it.
He just goes in there and the more pressure he experiences, the better he can perform.
It's true.
It's like you look at the Aldo fight.
Picture-perfect left-hand knockout.
It doesn't get any prettier.
The timing, the setup, the patience, the movement, the setting it up, looking for him to leap in, and BANG! Catching him when he's coming in.
everlast
I'm pretty sure he said exactly what he said he was going to do right before the fight, too.
joe rogan
Oh, that's me tweeting him.
In January of 2013, I saw his fight in, I think it was Cage Warriors.
I think that's the promotion.
Cage Wars or Cage Warriors?
Why am I fucking that up?
Cage Wars.
Is there two different ones?
There probably is.
It's probably a bunch of Cage stuff.
But either way, he was fucking people up overseas, and I was like, this kid's for real.
He just sees something sometimes.
He sees, like, I watch a video, see how a guy moves, and I'm like, Jesus!
Some guys just have something, and he had just ridiculous timing.
So relaxed in there.
everlast
Those were fun fights, man.
joe rogan
His early days of MMA, he was like, you can go back and watch him, and you go, oh, this guy's gonna be special.
He's got a weird sense of timing.
He's just very good at understanding where you're at and knowing how to put it on you.
everlast
He just had me winning the whole Irish thing.
That's it.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure, man.
everlast
We built a city.
I love it.
I love it.
joe rogan
Yeah, when he was like, we all fight together.
Like, oof.
When he's in the room, if he wins a fight and the crowd's filled with 7,000 Irish people, you feel it.
You feel goosebumps.
It's crazy.
You do everything you can to stop just to keep yourself from crying at the beauty of it.
This guy standing there in front of thousands of people that have flown overseas to see him fight.
everlast
It's insane how many people fly over.
joe rogan
Dude, it's crazy.
They take over the fucking Vegas hotels.
Take over!
everlast
Didn't they shut down like 7th Avenue in front of Madison Square Garden?
joe rogan
There's not a fucking fan on earth like Irish fans.
They're different.
I used to think Brazilian fans were crazy until I saw the Irish fans.
They'd take over.
The whole Mandalay Bay was taken over by people singing.
It was all Irish people.
everlast
And doing a fair amount of drinking.
Oh, fair.
joe rogan
More than fair.
But just the fact that they can do that, that they can get together and sing the same song, like thousands of them together singing the same song.
everlast
I remember the first time when we went to Ireland, this House of Pain, and in between songs, they broke into the whole, you know, all the soccer chant stuff.
And we were just like, whoa, this is crazy.
You know, we never experienced anything like that.
They don't do that at the sports events at home back then, not back then at all.
That was amazing.
Culturally, that soccer shit is real.
joe rogan
They have to have Conor fight in Ireland once.
He's got to fight in Dublin in a soccer stadium.
Fuck yeah, right?
everlast
Why not?
joe rogan
Why not?
If he's ever going to fight again, that's why they should do it.
I think the idea was that it's more money in pay-per-view if you fight in Vegas.
Vegas is worth a lot of money.
everlast
Doesn't the time have a lot to do with it, too, when they do it on the European thing?
They've got to do the whole weird time thing over there so they can accommodate the pay-per-view here.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'd be real weird.
They'd be fighting at like 4 in the morning.
everlast
It's always real weird to me when I wake up and there's like a South American fight that happened at noon and I'm like, oh, god, missed!
joe rogan
Or Japan, like Ryzen.
If you're trying to watch Ryzen, they have it in Japanese time.
That's how Pride used to be.
We would get up at, like, we would have guys come over my house and we would watch Pride at like 3 o'clock in the morning.
Like sometimes they would have them live for some reason.
If I'm remembering it correctly...
Sometimes they would have them live and sometimes they would have the fights and you knew what happened, but you didn't get to see it for like a couple of weeks.
They would delay it in North America for some strange reason.
They didn't totally do it live.
everlast
I was hip to that MMA share thing a long time ago.
They always had the bootleg videos.
joe rogan
Don't tell anybody.
That's like Voldemort.
Don't say that.
everlast
Did I just mess up?
joe rogan
I don't know.
People get mad.
everlast
I thought it was gone anyways.
That was 10 years ago, dude.
joe rogan
Illegal streams.
everlast
Yeah.
Yo, the funny thing was, dude.
UFC is gangsters with that.
It used to be you could watch those.
And then over time, because in Europe, before there was things like Fight Pass and things like that, you couldn't find a pay-per-view if you were stuck over there at 4 in the morning in the middle of somewhere.
So you would lean on whatever you could as a fan.
But you started seeing them shutting them down.
They're gangsters.
The UFC are gangsters.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a big money business.
People fucking people up.
everlast
It's impressive, is what it is.
It's impressive.
It is impressive.
There's an army of motherfuckers somewhere going, oh yeah, oh yeah.
joe rogan
Still some of it must get through, right?
The internet just has stuff that gets through.
everlast
I don't know.
I got the Fight Pass now, so everywhere I go, I got the Fight Pass and you have that little static IP address, so when you are out of the country, that's perfectly normal.
joe rogan
You know what's weird?
Why aren't they showing...
I need to ask the UFC this.
Why don't they show the knockouts on their Instagram page?
They show when the knockout's over.
Have you noticed that?
everlast
Yeah.
joe rogan
I do not understand.
I don't understand.
everlast
Because once everybody knows, they know.
joe rogan
Everybody knows, they know.
It's not hurting anybody to watch it.
Like, it'll just hype up the fight.
everlast
Is replay business a lot of business?
I wonder what the replay buys are.
Like, the cats who just missed it and bought the replay.
Maybe that factors in.
unidentified
I'm sure.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
everlast
They probably make a nice second round of money on that replay.
joe rogan
Right, so how long do you think they should hold off?
For like a week?
everlast
A day or two maybe?
Yeah, a week.
joe rogan
Tops.
A week and then put the highlights on.
everlast
For sure.
joe rogan
Do they do that?
Do they ever show?
I get this weird impression that they only show like right after the finish.
everlast
Well, like on Instagram now, no.
They'll show entire fights on Instagram now, but old fights.
Like old fights, yeah.
joe rogan
But I'm pretty sure they showed Stipe just pulling off of DC. Was that the case?
unidentified
That was crazy.
everlast
My whole phone got blown up because apparently I'm right in the background when that happens.
I don't know.
I haven't seen it.
My phone blew up right then.
joe rogan
Dude, that fight was chaos.
That fight was chaos.
everlast
That was fun.
I had an amazing time.
joe rogan
That fight card was chaos.
That was a wild one, man.
In Anaheim.
It was hard watching DC get hit with those fucking body shots.
everlast
As soon as he started digging in, it was like, oh wow, something's happening.
joe rogan
Dude, Stipe's nasty.
He wanted that belt back.
everlast
The shots he took.
joe rogan
Incredible.
everlast
We were talking about Yoel.
The shots Stipe took and just walked through them like...
joe rogan
Well, it was crazy because DC managed to put him away with one punch the first time.
everlast
That he didn't see coming.
He didn't see it coming.
Everything he got hit with was hard as hell, but he saw it all coming.
And he didn't let him get in that little, right in his chest there, because he got that short one on him that last time.
joe rogan
That's exactly what happens.
If you're not prepared, if you don't think you're going to get punched and you relax for a minute and then you get punched by something you don't see coming, you can get fucked up.
And when you're in a fight with a Greco-Roman wrestler of the caliber of DC who knows how to manipulate you, he just manipulated him perfectly into that right hand.
It was a beautiful work of art.
But he was never able to hit him like that in the second fight as cleanly and have that kind of an effect.
The shots he hit him with were pretty good shots, but Stipe ate him.
And then you realize, oh, Stipe can take a fucking shot.
He just got clipped.
He just got caught.
He can take a fucking shot.
And he was there in the fourth round, which is really impressive.
Like, in the fourth round, he was looking good.
everlast
He recognized as soon as he touched that lever shot that it was...
Oh, wow, something happened there.
And it hit him.
He dug in like four or five straight times, man.
joe rogan
You cannot let a guy like that punch you in the lever that many times.
I'm sure DC obviously didn't want him to do that, but that's how good Stipe is.
everlast
Respect to DC, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, respect to DC. I love that guy.
everlast
That was a great fight.
joe rogan
He's one of my favorite people.
To do commentary with, man, for sure.
He's the best.
He's so fun.
He's hilarious.
When Rose Namajunas knocked out Ioannion Jacek, he's like, fuck Rose!
everlast
Fuck Rose!
joe rogan
I never forget that.
That is what I love.
He's so free that in the middle of this crazy world title fight, he's just DC. He could be himself.
He's got a great personality, man.
And he's a hell of a fighter, and he was dominating in the first round.
everlast
Do you think he's going to fight again, probably?
joe rogan
I think he's going to want to fight Stipe again, if I guess.
If I really guess.
I mean, if he wants to do it again, he's going to want to fight Stipe again.
Because he's going to want to, I think the way he described it is right that wrong.
That he did.
He just didn't fight well.
He didn't listen to his coroner.
I think that's what he thinks.
It's like he fought really well in the first round, and then Bob Cook was yelling at him in the second round, keep your damn hands up.
He was walking him down, almost disdainfully, walking him down.
And I don't know if that was part of strategy to psychologically put up a lot of pressure on Stipe, you know, to try to establish that Stipe's done, that he's the champ now.
But it was almost like disdainful.
But Stipe survived.
And he just was there.
And he was there in really good shape in rounds three and rounds four.
That was what was really impressive about it.
everlast
I was amazed.
joe rogan
Especially after getting fucked up quite a bit in that first round.
everlast
I mean, there was a couple times where I thought he was going to be, like, dude was going to get him.
joe rogan
Yeah, DC was all over him in that first round.
And when he picked him up and dumped him, you're like, Jesus Christ, DC's good.
Jesus Christ, he's good.
He just didn't maintain it.
That's exactly what it was.
And then Stipe made the adjustment.
And, you know, who the fuck knows?
He might decide, you know what?
My body doesn't want to do this anymore.
I'm done.
I know he made a ton of money.
And I know he's really good as a commentator.
And he'll do that forever.
everlast
For sure.
joe rogan
Or he might want to do it one more time.
But then there's always Jon Jones lurking, man.
I feel like everybody knows that's the biggest rivalry in MMA. Isn't it?
everlast
Yeah, I mean, the only thing, if you're going to talk about accolades of Cormier's, he has everything, all those championships, but there's that little asterisk on the light heavyweight belt that he never really got it from John.
joe rogan
But that's the weird part about it, right?
It's like when you're a champion, but the champion who's the real champion didn't lose it, and then they have an interim champion.
Like, what are we doing here?
What does happen?
everlast
Has John never come back and shown that he's still him and hopefully God willing for him keeping all this stuff together?
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
It would have been different.
If he just kind of faded into the distance, then it changes that narrative.
But he came back, and his original thing was like, you ain't that guy.
I'm that guy still.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how crazy good John is.
Really, that's how crazy good John is.
everlast
I'd love to see that, though.
joe rogan
And the way DC was able to beat Rumble twice.
Rumble, to me, was always the scariest guy.
everlast
That's my dude.
joe rogan
Rumble's the scariest guy.
everlast
That's my dude.
joe rogan
He's so ferocious.
His punching is so fucking explosive, man.
He's just got so much power.
When he knocked out Glover to share with one punch, I was like, God...
everlast
When I first met him, he was a much smaller dude.
joe rogan
When he was 3170. Yeah, yeah.
everlast
He used to work out with some friends of mine that used to work out in this little MMA gym that was off Melrose and La Brea.
I think it was called LAMMA at the time or something like that.
Before he wound up in Colorado, I think.
Dude.
I've known that dude a while, man.
He's a good dude, man.
joe rogan
He's ridiculously powerful.
He's a really nice guy.
everlast
Yeah, he's a good dude.
joe rogan
His fucking power is preposterous, though.
everlast
And then when I seen him come back in on the 205, that's what I was like.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just flatlining people at 205. But it was interesting, man.
His retirement was one of the most honest.
He was happy with it.
Because he was like, man, I'm not a fighter.
I'm an athlete.
I'm just good at this.
I was like, wow, that's really, that's interesting.
Interesting way to look at it.
everlast
I think he grows weed now and raises dogs.
And like breeds French bulldogs.
joe rogan
Good for him.
unidentified
And he's huge.
joe rogan
He just did a grappling competition against this guy, Craig Jones, who's this Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy from Australia that's a murderer.
He's a leg lock specialist, too, and he caught him in a leg lock.
It's crazy to see how big he is.
Rumble's like fucking, I don't know, he's gotta be like 260 pounds.
Like, no bullshit.
He's huge, man.
everlast
I've seen him, we sat next to a fight, not the last fight I went to, but whatever, the one last fight before that in Vegas.
joe rogan
Bro, he looks like a fucking super heavyweight.
He's so big, it's ridiculous.
He's just not even thinking about losing weight for fighting anymore.
I wonder what would happen if he decided to come back as a heavyweight.
Like, no bullshit.
As a heavyweight, if that guy...
I mean, do you know how crazy it would be if that guy wound up winning the heavyweight title?
You think of the Rumble career.
He wins the ultimate fighter as a 170. Gets all the way up to 185. Can't make 185. Misses weight, right?
Misses it for the Vitor Belfort fight, I believe.
A big fight.
Then he goes up to light heavyweight.
Even goes up to heavyweight.
Beat Andre Arlovsky in, I think it was the PFL. And I think it really beat him badly, if I remember correctly.
He broke his jaw.
That was at heavyweight.
That was at heavyweight in the PFL. It wasn't in the UFC. And then he comes back to the UFC. Comes back to the UFC as a light heavyweight and just...
Slap whining people.
everlast
Yeah, I remember.
joe rogan
You would see him hit people, he'd just go, whoa!
unidentified
That guy.
everlast
Scary.
joe rogan
Timing, too.
Excellent timing.
You know, it wasn't just power.
Rumble Johnson, UFC return, could be on cards if the price is right.
Yeah, that was when...
This is from recently?
jamie vernon
Yeah, after his grappling match, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
Yeah, July, two months ago.
Dude, he's so big right now.
I would think he would fight heavyweight.
everlast
Heavyweight.
joe rogan
I mean, I really think he's...
everlast
Him and Stipe.
joe rogan
He was torturing his body for so long to make 170. I never saw anybody lose one.
Oh my god, 278!
unidentified
He's so big!
That's 100 pounds over what he fought.
joe rogan
It is a 100 pound gain.
That is so crazy.
A hundred pounds more than what he weighed in when he won the Ultimate Fighter.
everlast
That's insane.
joe rogan
That's insane.
everlast
God bless.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
278. Oh my god.
170. Oh my god.
He was 170. 170 pound champion.
Becomes a 278 pound heavyweight.
And it's just like, where did he, how did you do that?
Where is it?
It's crazy.
That guy's power is fucking undeniably preposterous.
everlast
What do you make of Brock trying to pick a fight with John Bones?
joe rogan
Oh, that's so silly.
Let's just talk.
What I was going to say about Rumble is that even though Rumble was that good and that scary, DC handled him, man.
DC ate a hard shot, got him to the ground.
That was Rumble when he was 170. He's very thin.
Now he's enormous.
But DC was the guy who managed to handle that.
everlast
Yeah, crazy.
joe rogan
That's how badass DC is.
everlast
Seemingly easily was the crazy part.
joe rogan
He was the only one that could handle him.
everlast
I didn't think that was going to go that way.
Like I said, that was my dude, so I was rooting heavy for him.
joe rogan
Well, DC's a special guy when it comes to wrestling.
He's especially talented.
And I think wrestlers, they know where they stand in the wrestling food chain.
And when you get gripped by a dude like DC, you're like, oh Jesus, this is Olympic caliber wrestling.
It's beast mode.
He'd just start smashing.
And he was able to run his way through the heavyweight division.
You've got to realize before he lost his Stipe fight, he'd only lost one round ever at heavyweight, really, arguably.
And that was to Josh Barnett.
I think that was like one round that he lost on the cards.
And Josh Barnett is, you know, a legend.
A fucking...
The youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion.
The youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion, Josh Barnett.
Brilliant guy, too.
Do you know Josh?
everlast
Not personally, no.
joe rogan
Fucking brilliant guy.
Brilliant guy.
So that's the last round that DC had ever lost.
He lost like one round as a heavyweight.
He was just dominating people.
With his wrestling and his hand speed, he was just fucking people up.
But that's how good Stipe is, man.
People slept on Stipe.
People thought that DC was going to run him over again like he ran him over the first time.
And, you know, I think DC prepared for a long and arduous fight, but Stipe's a big, big man.
Big, giant heavyweight man.
He's a long, tall dude, a long frame.
DC weighed more than him during the fight.
I think he weighed like six pounds more than him.
Something like that.
But it's just built, it's just distributed very differently.
unidentified
But didn't Stephen come in like 20 or 30 pounds less than last time?
joe rogan
He came in less, yeah.
I don't know if it was 20 pounds, but I think it was, he was like 230 in this fight, and I think DC was 236. So DC came in light, too.
He came in lighter than their first fight.
But I think, you know, Stipe came in after like a whole year of waiting for this rematch, like trying to figure out if it's ever going to happen.
Is DC going to fight Brock Lesnar?
And Jesus, you know, it's like he was always waiting.
And then finally they gave him the chance to see him.
I hate to see DC lose.
I hate it.
It's hard to watch, man.
He's such a nice guy.
It's hard as much as I like that guy to see him get hit.
It's hard.
But you take all that stuff out, and just look at it as two athletes, and what Stipe did was just brilliant.
The whipping of that left hook to the body was just textbook, man.
Textbook.
everlast
DC was fighting an amazing fight up until he gassed a little bit, it looked like to me, and the liver shots started happening.
joe rogan
It's also, you've got to appreciate the technique.
The way Stipe threw that left hook was perfect.
I mean, it was just, these are brilliant shots.
There's no wasted movement.
The technique was pinpoint.
I mean, he just rips him in there.
And he caught DC standing there.
And he just hit him with a hard left to the body.
And then, once he realized he could do that more, he just continued what they were doing.
And then, he would go do it again.
And he got in again.
And then, now DC's in a little bit of trouble.
And now, what's he going to try to do?
Take him down?
Like, he's in this spot where he's kind of still standing with him.
And he's not down, but he's hurt.
He got hit with hard body shots by a big heavyweight.
everlast
His face was definitely letting it be known.
joe rogan
Those are brutal.
And then, boom, he starts hitting him up to the head and drops him.
Wow.
That was super impressive.
everlast
When you're calling a fight, how often are you looking here?
joe rogan
Depends on what I can see.
I mean, what you're saying is a monitor.
Yeah, it depends on how often I want to see it.
If I could just see it.
unidentified
Absolutely.
everlast
That's why I'm just curious.
I'm just saying percentage-wise, if you were to guess, what, about a third of the time you're looking at this and the rest of the time you're probably up here?
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe less than a third on the monitors.
I try to stay off the monitors.
The monitors are...
I want to see.
You know, I want to see what's happening.
everlast
But, like, if they're off to the side, like, pressed up against the cage, then I kind of have to go to the monitors because I need to see, like, I'm comparing it to an experience where I'm about a third of the time I feel like I'm looking at the screens.
They're on the ground and I want to see what's going on with the arm that I can't see.
That kind of thing.
joe rogan
It's a wild fucking sport, man.
So wild.
everlast
I was trying to figure it out the other day.
I think I've been to like...
Maybe 60 UFCs, man.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
everlast
I think so, dude.
If I think back to the years when I met Dana and Chuck, and ever since that day, I call up and I'm blessed.
I get to go.
joe rogan
I know you're always there.
everlast
And when I was single, dude, when it was those days, it was a whole different game.
I'd be in almost every one because most of them were in Vegas.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
So it would be easy to get there.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are fun experiences, man.
everlast
Trying to figure out how to pull up on Abu Dhabi, man.
joe rogan
Are you really?
unidentified
I'm trying.
everlast
I'm trying to figure out, do I just buy a ticket and go, or do I figure out how to, yo, any promoter out there that wants some jump around action?
Holler at me.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
everlast
I'm just trying to pull up on the Abu Dhabi fight and have that experience.
joe rogan
I'm going to be watching that one from here.
We're going to probably do a fight companion for that.
everlast
And one day, I want to be invited to one of those.
joe rogan
Dude, you've got to come to one of those.
Those are ridiculous.
everlast
No, they're fun.
joe rogan
Just try not to get into conspiracies.
unidentified
No, no.
everlast
I'm well aware.
joe rogan
Try to keep any away from the Illuminati.
everlast
Right.
joe rogan
It's the only way it goes south.
But even then, it's fun.
It's always fun.
It's just the best thing in the world is watching fights with friends and laughing.
everlast
No, I've watched it a few times.
joe rogan
A good combination of things.
everlast
It's a fun thing.
joe rogan
My most favorite way to watch fights.
everlast
Turn the sound down at the house and put y'all up.
joe rogan
Man, you could say things you just can't say.
You could talk about things that you could never otherwise talk about.
And you could describe things with language.
All the language.
You could use all the language.
When I'm doing the UFC, little kids are listening to this.
Which is kind of weird, right?
If you say, fuck...
That's bad.
But if they watch someone get beaten...
everlast
The fighter could say it, though.
I mean, you know what I mean?
The fighter could say it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
I think appropriately and intelligently placed, it wouldn't be out of line.
But you couldn't overdo it or overuse it.
It would have to be like...
You'd have to pick that perfect moment.
joe rogan
The problem is it gets in the way of...
Doing the commentary, right?
Any decision that you would make to use that kind of language would get in the way of the commentary because it would be less effective.
They would go, oh, this guy.
Why do you have to use it there?
And there would be judgment of when to use it and why to use it.
And then they would think less of what you have to say or be upset by what you have to say.
And that would...
If you're trying to do commentary, the number one thing you're trying to do is take yourself out of it.
I'm trying to do that.
I'm just trying to use the best language possible to express my excitement for what we're about to see.
This is what's important to me.
This is how fucking pumped I am.
These guys are murderers.
This is going to be fascinating to see.
Yoel Romero, Paulo Costa, what the fuck?
everlast
That's exactly how we were talking in the car on the way down.
joe rogan
I was watching that fight like this.
This is me.
Jesus!
It's like one of those fights where we're just waiting for some...
The beatings they were giving each other was crazy, man.
Fucking two chiseled, granite-looking motherfuckers.
everlast
Yoel and a Gucci model.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
everlast
It's going to be in a Gucci model ad next week.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
If Gucci doesn't pick him up, they're crazy.
That guy's beautiful.
They're both giant, beautiful men with incredible bodies.
Man, the fight was fucking fantastic.
It was so highly skilled.
That Paulo Costa guy is for real, man.
He's for real.
If he can do that to Yoel, if he can stay on top of Yoel like that, Yoel explodes on everyone.
Explodes on everyone.
But that dude weathered the storm.
He weathered the storm and he landed some great shots.
It was a very close fight, though, because Yoel hit him with some big shit, too, and Yoel took him down twice.
everlast
We were, you know, it was my 50th Sunday, so we were out Saturday and Sunday.
joe rogan
What's the word again?
everlast
Oh, Sláinte.
joe rogan
Sláinte.
everlast
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
Sláinte.
everlast
So, like, you know, we were going Yoel, the old guy rep, you know what I mean?
Rep for the old guys, you know what I mean?
So we were going hard for Yoel.
joe rogan
Bro, he wins best body at 42 all over the world.
That guy's a monster.
I mean, who has more, like, athletic length of their elite career than Yoel?
Because at 42, he still moves like he moved 10 years ago.
everlast
Is he 42, too?
Who knows?
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
everlast
He's got that Cuban birth certificate.
joe rogan
He could be like 48. You know, that's what they say about that Luis Ortiz guy, you know, that elite heavyweight boxer from Cuba.
everlast
I'm getting trouble from all my Cuban friends for that.
I'll be busting my balls.
All the Cypress guys.
joe rogan
I had him on the podcast with Joey Diaz translating.
It was amazing, man, to hear him tell his stories in Cuban.
I just wish I spoke Spanish so I could understand it coming from his mouth, but having Joey translate it and talk about all the shit that he had to deal with coming up through the Cuban amateur system of wrestling.
everlast
This was one of your podcasts?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Look at that.
Dude, look at that.
everlast
I've got to watch it because that one got by me.
joe rogan
Look at that build.
That is preposterous.
That is one of them sculpted things you buy at Toys R Us, right?
unidentified
It looks like this.
everlast
Yeah, it's an action figure.
That's an action figure for sure.
joe rogan
Bro, that does not look like a real live human.
everlast
It's a Batman suit.
That's what that is.
joe rogan
He's so freakishly athletic and so powerful.
And, you know, it's that Cuban wrestler system.
The way he described it is like, they turn you into a machine.
You just become a fucking machine.
And that's what he is with competition.
He's just a machine, man.
everlast
Yeah, he was clowning, too, in the second two rounds.
That's why I kind of felt like, you know...
joe rogan
Well, he was trying to get that guy to be emotional and make a mistake.
No, for sure.
everlast
But it was like, again, he finished.
He got the best of them in those two rounds.
In my book, I thought he won.
Close, close.
Not bad enough to be, like, bitching about it.
But, like, I would have flipped the 29-28, personally.
joe rogan
Well, the audience agreed with you when they were booing it.
Which is unfortunate because Paulo Costa just fought an amazing fight and he has to feel like shit during the post fight part.
everlast
That does suck.
I don't condone booing any of that stuff.
Most of the people that would boo would never get in that ring.
I would never get in that ring.
You ain't got enough money.
Again, I've made a lot of money.
And Conor McGregor hasn't got enough money for me to get in that ring, dog.
I'm sorry.
You got $100 billion.
I'm like, ah, man, I like my consciousness.
I'm not getting in with Mike Tyson for any money, because that's a lottery ticket on the wrong side of things.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
The problem is they're booing the decision.
It wasn't his decision.
He just fought his heart out.
everlast
And it wasn't that ridiculous, is my point, too.
It was like, I would have flipped it, but hey, okay, I can see how that could be seen.
joe rogan
100%.
And your guy has been live to 60 fucking UFCs.
Yeah.
It's just...
everlast
I don't know what the woo thing is that's happened in the last couple years.
unidentified
Woo!
everlast
And the whole crowd starts...
They just get excited.
But that's new.
That wasn't around a long time ago.
joe rogan
It's probably some soccer thing.
They probably stole it from soccer.
everlast
It's like animals answering each other at some point.
unidentified
It's like you got...
everlast
You know what I mean?
Communicating with the woos.
joe rogan
Dude, I never even thought of that.
That's so true.
The woo.
That's a new thing.
everlast
Yeah.
I mean, the last few years...
joe rogan
Like over the last five or six years, right?
everlast
Yeah.
unidentified
What do you think?
everlast
Was that a wrestling thing?
You know what?
When's the first time it popped up down south like a Kentucky or a North Carolina?
That's when I feel like I heard it first.
joe rogan
You know, that might be Ric Flair.
That might be a Ric Flair.
everlast
It might be a Ric Flair?
Is that what that is?
Dude, that would make a lot.
Now you fucking solved a mystery for me.
That would make sense if we can get some confirmation on that somehow.
jamie vernon
Someone asked this question on Reddit.
Someone says you've been talking about Ric Flair so much that they might have picked it up from you.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's right.
everlast
What if this is some bizarro moment where it all connected?
Like, oh shit, I started that.
joe rogan
Listen, guys like that are important to America.
That guy's such, he's such a character.
In his prime, with his suits.
Jet flying, alligator wearing.
everlast
I was a WCW guy, man, and Ric Flair was the man.
joe rogan
Dude, he's a character that made his way into, what, a thousand rap songs?
everlast
How many rap songs have Ric Flair- Dude, there's a whole hip-hop subculture.
Involved with wrestling.
I'm actually fans of West Side Gun and Conway and this kid Benny.
They got this record label called Griselda, but the West Side Gun kid is a wrestling fanatic.
I think he's involved with the...
WWE doing merch and stuff like that because I see them putting shit together that's definitely got to be licensed.
There's this whole subculture of wrestling and hip-hop going on right now too.
joe rogan
Wrestling has definitely made its way into stand-up too now.
They have this podcast, The Store Horseman, where they all just talk about pro wrestling, a bunch of comics, Tony Hinchcliffe and these comics.
Who's on that Store Horseman?
Jeremiah Watkins, right?
Who else?
No, he's not?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I'm giving out fake news.
everlast
Fake news.
joe rogan
That's fake news.
everlast
What's not fake news is this is delicious, by the way.
joe rogan
It's very good.
everlast
It's delicious.
joe rogan
Buffalo Trace.
everlast
I ain't mad at it.
joe rogan
This company's from 1773, son.
They started in 1773. Did you know that they sold whiskey during Prohibition for medicinal purposes?
Of course they did.
I didn't know that.
everlast
Well, I didn't, but I'm not shocked at all.
joe rogan
So this company kept making whiskey all through the prohibition.
everlast
Legally, you're saying?
joe rogan
Legally, yeah.
For medicine.
So people that, you know, need a little medicine.
everlast
I just got a slew of new whiskeys for the birthday.
joe rogan
It's Tony Hinchcliffe, Johnny Skirtis, Matt Edgar, Josh Martin.
That's right.
I hope I said Skirtis' last name right.
Is that right?
Is that how you say it?
everlast
It sounds like it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Anyway, so comics are really into pro wrestling, too.
They even go live, these dorks.
They fly out to, like, Wrestlemania, and they go in the audience and livestream everything.
everlast
Same thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, same thing.
It's become a thing that people like to do.
Like, to go to these big wrestling events and groups of people, whether it's musicians or rappers, hip-hop or stand-ups.
They're going, like, experiencing it together.
unidentified
Exactly.
everlast
It's like the concert experience.
joe rogan
Why are rappers so obsessed with Ric Flair?
unidentified
Because he's got, like, 40 Rolexes.
everlast
You know, he's Ric Flair.
joe rogan
That one famous rant that he went on, limousine riding, jet flying.
everlast
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that kind of shit.
And they were all eight when that happened, and they saw that.
Yes, that's everything I want in the universe.
joe rogan
Yeah, you see him now.
I mean, the guy still gets love everywhere he goes, you know?
Like I did in my special where I said, you know, Ric Flair, and then I put the microphone out to the audience.
The audience goes, woo!
everlast
Dude, you started that shit then, dude.
You started the woo.
joe rogan
I don't think I did.
I think it was already going on.
I think everybody appreciates this guy.
We can't play this, right?
We'll get in trouble.
As you get older and you see things like this, you appreciate them for what they like.
You can think they're cheesy when you're young, but then as you get older you go, no, that's fucking awesome!
The fact that that guy is his tank with his beautiful golden mullet with those crazy sunglasses saying all this nutty shit.
everlast
Big old pinky ring.
joe rogan
Dude, man, that's an artist.
That guy's an artist.
Look at this.
everlast
That's the male soap opera forever since back when we were children, man.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
When I was a kid, it was Bob Backlund and Jimmy Superfly Snooker and Iron Sheik.
everlast
I don't know if you could have really grown up in America as a little boy and not had a phase at some point where you interacted with one of these wrestling organizations, WCW or WWF, when I was growing up.
joe rogan
And if you were one of those kids that's really into alt music and indie groups, you would go for some fucking Killer Kowalski shit.
unidentified
Undertaker.
joe rogan
You would try to find some people that were off the beaten path.
Do you know about this wrestling organization?
Because there's a bunch of weird little tiny ones.
everlast
Dude, when House of Pain was early on, but we were experiencing pretty good success, ECW had formed.
The Crazy Extreme Championship Wrestling, I think that's what it's doing for, out of Philadelphia, and they invited us to a bunch.
It was the first time I ever really, and I know it had happened before, but their whole show was about cats cutting their faces open and bleeding during matches and shit.
It was insanity, man.
And they had packed houses.
I mean, I think Dude bought it up.
Vince McMahon bought it up, and the guy who owned it or ran it became one of the characters within it, I believe.
It's been a long time.
I'm old now.
joe rogan
I'm 50. Do you see what Ronda Rousey did to her finger?
I saw that yesterday.
How about that, man?
They glued that thing together and she went back to work.
everlast
How about if I read it right, she finished the take.
joe rogan
She finished the take and ignored it until it was over.
And then when it was over, she realized how bad it was.
So she goes to the hospital, they put it back together again, and then she goes back and finishes.
everlast
Gangster.
unidentified
Dude.
everlast
That's dedication.
joe rogan
Not a lot of humans can do that.
everlast
It's also like, I don't want to fight anymore.
I'm going to go finish this movie.
Nobody wants to cut the weight once they're done.
They don't want to come back to that shit.
joe rogan
Well, that's just the mindset of an elite combat sports athlete.
She just had that mindset.
There's not a whole lot of humans that would have dealt with that that way.
That's crazy.
That lady's made out of bullets.
everlast
I'm going on my workman's comp from my SAG after insurance.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're shutting down production, son.
We ain't finishing no scenes.
everlast
Chopped off a superstar's finger.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
What if she lost her finger?
What if it was like...
everlast
I mean, it wasn't...
joe rogan
Bro, yeah, that's a fuck...
everlast
Without the super expert...
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Surgeons, that's gone.
Speaking of which, dude, last, I think it happened, I don't know if we talked about it, it might have been after the last time I was on, dude, so I'm on a trip, and I'm coming home literally about to get on the plane, and I get this text from my wife, like, um, I'm at the hospital, I got a, I chopped off my finger.
unidentified
Oh.
everlast
And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, she didn't chop off her finger, man.
She probably got her pretty right stitches.
I was like, okay, it's pretty bad.
I was like, all right, it was like about a three-hour flight home.
I said, all right, I'll be there as soon as I can.
So I get there, and I pick her up from the hospital, and she's got the big thing on, and I get the story of...
She was getting in the shower and we have a big glass swinging shower door.
And she was getting in and holding on to the edge real quick as the door slammed shut on it and just lopped off the fucking hole.
To the knuckle, basically.
They put that shit back on, fixed it up a little bit.
It looks pretty fucking good now, but that was crazy, dog.
It just reminded me of it with the whole Ronda Rousey.
joe rogan
Fingers are so...
It's amazing that they don't break more often.
They're so gentle.
everlast
My shit would be over.
Like, if that part of my...
This finger...
Like, this is the guitar on the fret hand.
If I lost that part of that finger, I'm...
It's going to take me four or five years to learn how to play with just these, at least.
joe rogan
My friend Paul was closing a window, and it shattered and cut his finger and cut through the tendons, and his finger was permanently curled.
And he had a bunch of operations to try to straighten it out, but then eventually he just gave up.
They could never straighten it out.
It never regained full range of motion from a window.
It's so delicate.
All this stuff is so delicate.
That's why it's great.
That's why fighting is so ridiculous.
everlast
A glass door.
Not sharp, really.
I went home and looked at it.
It's pretty beveled on the edges, but the weight of it just lopped off the fucking finger like crazy.
She was pretty gangster, though.
I have to say, she was pretty gangster.
jamie vernon
What do you think of that scene where they put his hand in the fucking bowl?
everlast
My wife actually posted, I don't think it's on her Instagram anymore.
She posted the tip of her finger in the plastic bag as she took it to the fucking hospital, dude.
joe rogan
Did she have ice in the bag?
everlast
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
everlast
They couldn't reattach, but they were able to extend it somehow.
Luckily, the dude out right there, there was a dude who was an expert at hand plastic surgery and hooked her shit up.
It looks pretty normal.
joe rogan
Something happens to your skin.
If your finger gets chopped off at the end, there's a way to make it grow back, right?
Am I making this up?
It seems like I remember there's a way where if something happens to your tip of your finger.
everlast
Oh yeah, if you don't get the bone.
I think they said something like that, but it got a piece of her bone.
That's why I'm saying it's so shocking how it just lopped it off clean.
unidentified
Like an angle, like whip!
everlast
You like that sound effect?
joe rogan
Yeah, whip!
I keep thinking that one day they're going to come up with artificial Luke Skywalker type hands.
And that people are going to want them instead of regular hands.
That's what I'm worried about.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
If they came up with an arm that works way better than your arm.
everlast
It would sound terrible though.
Like metal on metal.
Unless if you had the skin like simulation I could play guitar with that maybe.
joe rogan
I'm talking about self.
everlast
You could probably do some wild shit.
joe rogan
I'm talking about self-healing, bulletproof, spider silk hybrid skin that the government's working on.
They're working on that right now.
They're working on some sort of...
everlast
I don't doubt it, man.
You want to hear a wild one?
All right, I went on, you know, one night fucking smoking.
and I went on a little YouTube wormhole situation.
And somehow, I don't even know if it's a YouTube video or somewhere else, but I wound up on this video that was like, world's smartest kid thinks that CERN blew the world up in 2008.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
So I go on this video, right?
And I'm watching this video, dude.
And it's this young kid.
He's like 12. And the motherfucker's talking.
You know, you got to invest like 20 minutes into this kid talking about things that are super smart.
And it's kind of like to show you he's super smart.
You know what I mean?
This kid.
And his dad's doing the recording, I believe, or a relative, somebody very close to him.
And he goes into this whole theory of how he thinks when they collided the electrons, I believe, in the super collider, that they caused some crazy chain reaction that blew up the universe, but they also created an atom that weighed too much.
The first 20 minutes is also explaining infinite parallel universes.
So what the kid winds up with is this theory of like...
One atom weighing too much and is that being just enough to shift our universe into a parallel universe?
Yeah, this is it right here, dude.
So, this kid had me fucked up because after I watched this, everything I saw for months was talking about, like, it would be a news guy on the news, like, I don't know what universe I'm in anymore.
Or, uh...
Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.
Everything I saw for like four or five months after watching this video was like multiverse shit.
Like shit about multiverses.
And it's got me fucked up, Joe.
joe rogan
I hear you.
I'm fucked up too now.
everlast
That shit got me fucked up, man.
joe rogan
Read that paragraph.
Look at what it says there.
He claims that CERN destroyed the universe during recent experiments, which has resulted in us living in a nearby parallel universe instead.
everlast
You're welcome, Eddie.
jamie vernon
There's a lot of people online that think this is an explanation for all the Mandela Effect things that people keep finding online.
everlast
He goes into stuff about the Mandela Effect, how there's apparently a bunch of people who think Mandela died in prison, and as far as I know, he was released, became president of South America, and that's the universe I'm from, just personally.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
You know, but it's crazy, dude.
Because it's not just this video.
It's like you watch it and that YouTube algorithm starts sending you down a whole bunch of other, you know what I mean?
You start hearing, and it's like, and then again, everything that came out, there was all these shows I would see or movies or news things about the multiverse all of a sudden was everywhere around me.
It was fucking nutty, dude.
So I'm fucked up about that shit right now.
joe rogan
Well, if there was something they could do that might open up a door to a parallel universe, you don't think they would do it?
everlast
Stranger Things, you mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is Stranger Things.
I mean, things are strange, right?
It is Stranger Things.
everlast
Bizarro world.
joe rogan
You know what's the weirdest one?
The people that dismiss climate change.
That is the weirdest one to me.
I'm trying to figure out what's the benefit of dismissing climate change, other than if you work for the oil industry or something.
everlast
Iceland just lost a glacier.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Like, they just posted a whole thing of 10 or 80, like something in the 80s, a glacier picture of it, and just now, and it's gone.
joe rogan
But I'm not even saying, like, blaming anybody for it.
I'm saying dismissing it as an issue.
I'm like, let's pretend that people have nothing to do with it.
Let's just, I wish people had nothing to do with it.
Because then we can go, holy fuck, it's getting hot.
How hot is it going to get?
We can just figure it out.
everlast
Our record at this point was two degrees, the oceans are hotter than they've been.
joe rogan
Do you know how people do that, where they try to say, this is a natural cycle.
This is something that some people still say, right?
Okay, even if it was just a natural cycle, I wish humans weren't in the equation at all so there was no argument.
I wish it would just be like, hey guys, it's getting really hot, what the fuck do we do?
As if we had no control over it whatsoever.
Not saying that we shouldn't take steps to fix it, we definitely should, but I'm saying that if it was impossible for people to have created it and it was happening around us, maybe we would be forced to do something.
Maybe we'd be forced to go to higher ground, get the fuck out of the really hot spots, make your way towards Canada.
I mean, maybe that's what we would do if there was no other way, but we know that at least part of what the problem is, is people.
At least part of the problem.
But so many people want to start arguments about that and fight that.
To me, it's so strange.
It's like, what's the benefit of arguing against that it's happening?
I don't understand.
It's happening.
You see it getting warmer.
You see the statistics.
You see everybody freaking out.
The Amazon's on fire.
Have you seen it?
everlast
Yes.
No, it's fucking horrifying.
joe rogan
You see those photos from Sao Paulo?
unidentified
Yes.
everlast
And I believe it's purposeful.
joe rogan
I have heard that some people are thinking...
everlast
It's being burnt away on purpose is what I'm...
If the things I've read are understood, I won't swear their truth because, again, that's one of the things you're saying is you've got to question everything now.
Truth has been compromised, man.
You know what I mean?
No matter what side of whatever you are on, truth has been seriously compromised because there's a counter-opinion to everything and if you're not...
I'm adept enough to really get involved and find factual information.
You can literally counter any argument there is with something.
Oh, I read this.
Well, I read this.
Okay, well, that doesn't mean either one of those things are true.
Let's go find the truth.
That doesn't exist anymore because it's people just want to Google that shit get on and move on with their day You know and and it's laziness on our part a lot of people don't want them It's like fucking this thing that everybody's posting with the goddamn fucking Instagram.
I don't give you permission Yeah, so silly use every I read a whole other thing that says the average American I believe signs one or two Legal documents a day without reading them, just by logging into shit on your phone, Amazon or Instagram or whatever.
Every time you do that, you subscribe and adhere to their terms and conditions.
You think a picture of a copied and pasted Instagram thing over something that was from Facebook?
Fucking 12 years ago.
It's bananas.
It's bananas.
joe rogan
People get roped into things.
unidentified
I see smart people posting and saying, better safe than sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen that too.
everlast
What argument is that?
joe rogan
Well, they don't know how to internet.
They don't know how to internet.
everlast
I'm just saying even if it's like you suspect it's wrong, but fuck it anyways.
It's like, wait, wait.
If you suspect it's wrong, take the extra time or just don't do it at all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, what?
everlast
I'm just using that as an example of what the state of things are as they are.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a sneaky little loophole.
It's a sneaky little thing that happens to you.
You have to...
Everybody's posting something stupid.
Did you send it to me?
Oh, Everlast sent it to me.
It must be legit.
unidentified
Let me just post it.
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, how many times have you done that?
I've done that all the time.
everlast
I posted something, clowning it, and then immediately after it, Dana came up, it was him posting the exact thing.
With the whole, like, better, safe, than sorry thing.
unidentified
Oh, Christ.
You know what I mean?
everlast
I was like, oh, man.
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
They got everybody, though.
They got that fucking Rick Perry guy.
everlast
Everybody.
Everybody.
joe rogan
Isn't Rick Perry's job to, like, fucking protect the nukes or something?
jamie vernon
I saw a governor or something post it, too.
joe rogan
What is Rick Perry?
They said Rick Perry, but he has a specific job in the government.
unidentified
It's like the energy secretary.
joe rogan
He's, like, in control of the nukes, right?
Is that what it is?
jamie vernon
If you're the energy secretary, yeah, you are.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Whatever the fuck he is, he's got a big job, and he fell for it.
It's...
everlast
It's bizarro world.
joe rogan
We're in bizarro world.
Maybe that fucking kid is right.
everlast
I'm telling you, dude.
Yo, you're going to be calling me in a couple nights like, fuck you, dude.
Why did you even tell me about that?
joe rogan
I've bounced the idea of multiple universes many times.
everlast
We all have, but this kid, watch it.
You're going to invest.
Give it 20 minutes or 15, 18 minutes, whatever it is, and then...
You'll be like, oh wow, it's not that it's fact, but it's like, wow, that's super possible.
unidentified
It's super, super possible the way he breaks it down.
joe rogan
What about this?
What if every time you went to sleep and you woke up, you passed into a nearby and very similar universe, but not quite the same?
And depending upon your choices and how you live your life, It's how you wake up and what new one you pop into on the other side and everyone's just a little bit different.
The whole world changes just a little bit each time you make a decision one way or another.
Everything changes when you wake up.
You think the world is static.
Because it is when you're awake.
You have no fucking idea what's happening while you're asleep.
And when you wake up again, you have this foggy recollection of the past.
And that's what you're going by.
You're going by every morning waking up with a foggy recollection of the past.
That's what you're doing.
And you're assuming that nothing's changed and everything's static.
And while you were asleep for eight hours, nothing weird happened.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
You have no idea.
You're dreaming.
You're having crazy fantasies and shit.
Weird stuff is happening.
You're fucking mermaids.
You're flying through the air on a helicopter.
Weird things happen when you're dreaming.
What is all that about?
We don't even know.
We have no idea what that is.
That soup of possibilities that's fucking swirling around in between your ears while you're snoring up a storm.
And then, boom, you wake up.
Are you sure?
Those memories are real?
Are you sure that this isn't a whole completely new universe that you're living in today?
everlast
Or assimilation.
joe rogan
Or assimilation.
unidentified
I said assimilation.
I will call myself out on that one right there.
joe rogan
There was some fucking, another genius super wizard kid who was talking about that.
Something about simulations.
everlast
I was high at the house with the guy who runs my studio, Divine, and we were just fucking laughing, talking shit one day.
I may have heard this.
It could have been on your show.
I could have read this.
So I'm not claiming ownership of the thought.
But it was like, what if we just come from a universe that's so perfect and shit, and it's boring as fuck, and we just plug in to have all these fucked up weird problems, and that's why everything's getting fucking weirder and crazier, because that's kind of why we're here.
That's part of the ride.
joe rogan
That could be it.
It could be the only way you appreciate love is to know hate.
They'll really appreciate it.
And it could be the only way we would appreciate all the good that we have is to balance it out with all the bad that we have.
And when they start to overwhelm each other one way or the other, there's an imbalance that takes place and it leads to all of our fucking problems as a society.
And when you think about how long you're going to be alive and what it is that you're doing here and why you're doing it, You know, all those weird questions and answers that go on inside your head, it's all, you're distributing energy, right?
You're trying to figure out, am I distributing my energy right?
Am I living my life in a way that is, like, the best I can do with what I've got right now?
everlast
That's it.
joe rogan
All these mind fucks.
everlast
That's all you gotta do, though.
I mean, honestly, even, no matter what we're saying, if you woke up every day and that was your objective, you couldn't really go or do much wrong.
joe rogan
No, no, you can't.
And what if every day when you did that, you woke up in a nearby universe that was just a little bit different because of what you thought and did?
everlast
Dude, that's like, you know, that's a movie.
joe rogan
It's a magic type shit, Everlast.
unidentified
That's a movie, man.
everlast
That's a movie.
joe rogan
It's a magic type shit.
everlast
Oh, you went, see, okay, I was being, I just was like trying to be not such a glutton.
unidentified
There we go.
joe rogan
Salute.
everlast
Salute.
DJ Melody over there, I just wanted to...
joe rogan
Cheers!
How about cheers?
Let's go American, goddammit.
everlast
Cheers.
joe rogan
Cheers.
Yeah.
You got a DJ, bro.
The only guy ever.
everlast
See, here's the thing.
unidentified
I believe, besides myself, is Honey Honey Band.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they're the only other ones.
everlast
Other ones that have done music on the show, right?
joe rogan
Not totally true.
Is that true?
You might be right.
You were definitely the first.
And then Gary Clark brought his guitar, but we just chilled.
everlast
I'm a huge fan of that.
joe rogan
I think Sturgill brought his guitar the first time.
He might not even brought his guitar the first time.
everlast
Sturgill Simpson?
joe rogan
Sturgill, yeah.
everlast
I hung out with him once at a sneaker shop on Melrose.
joe rogan
They have a new song that he just released.
His new album is fucking incredible.
I got a chance to listen to it in advance before it's released, and they just released something on YouTube.
It's like this Japanese anime with...
What's the name of the actual video so people can find it on YouTube?
unidentified
Singalong.
joe rogan
Singalong.
It's a fucking amazing song, but the video is cool as shit, man.
It's all this Japanese anime.
So he did all of this...
He did all these crazy animations.
It's like a film that takes place while the album plays.
everlast
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, so it's all coordinated to the songs.
I mean, he's been working on this shit forever.
He's been flying back and forth to Japan and L.A. I mean, this is a labor of love.
everlast
I like his style.
joe rogan
It's really incredible.
everlast
I met him, like I said, my buddy owns a sneaker shop with Melrose, and he was, I guess, a bit of a sneakerhead himself.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
everlast
So we'd be politic one day and talk some shit.
joe rogan
He's one of my favorite people.
everlast
Yeah, I like the style of the country, kind of outlaw-ish, but like big band-ish stuff he's doing.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you know what I love about that guy?
He didn't even try to go for it as a professional musician until he was like 36. His wife talked him into it.
His wife was like, you know, you don't suck.
That's like what she said to him.
everlast
That's high praise.
joe rogan
She's like, you're fucking good.
And he went for it.
everlast
From somebody who wakes up with you and goes to bed with you, it's like, you don't suck.
I mean, that's high praise.
joe rogan
But he had crazy jobs, like railroad worker, shit like that.
Did a bunch of regular jobs.
And just was writing music and singing music.
And then she convinced him to go for it.
Yeah, he's an unusual character, man.
This stuff, all this new stuff is different.
It's like, he used to be, you would think of him as country.
Like, you can't even, you don't even know what to say now.
This new stuff is not country.
It's wild, though.
It's really good.
everlast
Check it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like, it's this kind of hybrid rock thing he's doing, but it's pretty fucking badass.
jamie vernon
It says, Waylon had sex with Queens of the Stone Age while the Black Keys watched.
unidentified
That's the first comment on the video.
joe rogan
Who said that?
Who named that guy?
unidentified
Top comment, Shelby Riley.
joe rogan
Shelby Riley.
Congrats.
everlast
Congrats, you won.
joe rogan
You won the internet for the day.
everlast
For the day.
joe rogan
That is exactly what it sounds like.
It's really good stuff, man.
unidentified
He's a beast.
everlast
Sing along, you said that was called?
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
I'm gonna check it out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Absolutely.
joe rogan
He's doing weird shit.
everlast
That's the only thing to do, man.
It's, you know...
And, you know, weird shit in the sense of, like, yo, shit that excites you.
It's like, you know, I've never tried to make the same thing twice, you know, because it's like, I want to be excited.
I want to be scared to fail.
You know what I mean?
I want to be like, you know, oh, that didn't work.
Next time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you've always switched shit up.
That's one of the more interesting things about you.
It's like when you were doing what it's like, and when you switched up to Whitey Ford sings the blues, everybody was like, whoa!
This is the jump around guy?
This is the house of pain guy?
It felt so easy to digest for most people.
Because this is before I knew you.
And I was like, because it's so authentic.
It's very obvious that this was...
everlast
Thank you.
joe rogan
The kind of music that you were writing was like music that came from your feelings and your soul.
It was like, wow, this is real shit.
everlast
Yeah, it was 20 years ago.
joe rogan
Dude, what it's like was a classic.
That was a classic.
That was one of those songs that was like, that's a heartfelt song.
That's a soul-filled song.
That's like a universal song.
everlast
Yeah, I went to New York.
I had left House of Pain I went to New York with a buddy of mine and was just kind of sleeping on his couch and he had a guitar there.
I started strumming it one night and singing these little words and he came bursting out of his room in the back like, what the fuck is that?
And kind of was like, we're recording that tomorrow.
We were making a rap record.
I was there to just kind of further the rap career.
Nobody really knew I played guitar and stuff like that a little bit.
It was his encouragement that definitely came back when he was like, I think he was with it broad back there and he just heard the song and jumped like, what the fuck is that?
You know what I mean?
And so the next day they basically forced me to record it.
So I had to finish, right?
I wrote it like that night.
I think I had the first part, the whole liquor store guy at the liquor store thing, but I didn't really have anything else.
But he heard that part and was like, yo, you need to finish that.
joe rogan
When you get those ideas, when they come to you, what does that feel like?
Does it feel like a gift comes out of the universe?
everlast
A lot of the times, the really good ones, yeah.
You know what I mean?
What blows my mind, and I'm going to flip it on you real quick, is the comic arc of you get to work this thing out for a whole long time.
And if you're really successful on your level type thing, then you shoot a special and that joke kind of goes away.
You don't really get to tell that anymore.
And that blows my mind because my whole thing is like, work this thing out and build this thing that I can go out and play every night for the rest of my life.
unidentified
Right.
everlast
So, like, you're, you know what I mean, like, so all the kudos being thrown back and forth.
When I look at you or any amazing comedian that just turns it around and every year, two years, is belting out these fucking funny-ass specials, and then, like, you can't do that anymore.
Like...
Unless you're Andrew Dice Clay with the little fucking hickory dickory doc.
joe rogan
He's the only guy ever that you want to hear the old stuff over and over and over again.
You'll see a whole set of just rhymes.
everlast
Are you familiar with Little Duvall?
Yes.
The whole singing.
He's flipping this whole script on what comedy and music and entertainment is right now.
He's kind of doing some really fucking interesting shit.
joe rogan
He's also got a bunch of crazy shit going on on his Instagram.
His Instagram is hilarious, too.
He's got something I need to explain to me.
unidentified
It's one of my favorite follows in the universe.
everlast
He starts cultural phenomena.
joe rogan
Yes.
everlast
Period.
He sets shit off.
I've watched him say some shit on his Instagram and will it into existence, and it becomes like a trend.
The songs he's written.
It's just like...
It's amazing.
It's one of my favorite follows, honestly.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's something special.
Andrew Schultz really made me take a...
I mean, I knew about that song, Smile Bitch.
I actually found out about that song because Stylebender...
Stylebender would come out to fight with Smile Bitch.
And he came out to fight with me and talked about it.
He goes, I love Lil Duval.
I'm like, oh, let me check out Lil Duval.
And I was like, god damn, this guy's good.
And then Andrew Schultz says, yo, he's a comedian.
And he goes, he's one of the most insightful and brilliant people I've ever met.
And just like almost like a naturally curious guy.
everlast
You need to get him on.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're working on it.
everlast
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're going to make it happen.
That'd be amazing.
everlast
It's going to be great.
joe rogan
But Schultz is a wizard.
If Schultz tells me that someone's good, I'll buy it.
everlast
Yeah, and he was early internet dude.
He's been working these internet angles, kind of like you.
Got in really early, saw something he liked.
joe rogan
He's got his own thing going on with that whole City Boys, Country Boys thing.
everlast
But that's all in relation to the song he's got.
joe rogan
I know, I know, I know.
But it's hilarious how people, it's like a daily thing.
unidentified
The points back and forth.
everlast
Oh man, if you don't follow him, go!
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, go follow him.
He's one of the best followers.
everlast
Lil Duval, just shoot me some tickets to your next show in LA. I'm a huge fan.
That's it.
However millions on this show, follow Lil Duval because he's hilarious and funny.
And yes, sir.
joe rogan
Follow him to make sure that he's not really shadow banned anymore.
everlast
That shit's crazy.
I got a friend who's going through that right now.
Where they just disappear off the shit when you search for them.
unidentified
He's up there now.
joe rogan
Ah, they're ghosting you.
everlast
I feel like it's an ad.
unidentified
Oh, it's there?
joe rogan
You can find him?
Okay, good.
Yeah.
everlast
There you are.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, man, you couldn't find him for a while.
everlast
There you go, Andrew Schultz.
joe rogan
It was tricky.
It was very tricky.
Very tricky back in the day.
everlast
Yeah.
Awesome.
unidentified
Lil Duvall.
joe rogan
So what do you want to do today, man?
unidentified
You got a DJ? I brought a little, you know, we got a few things to do, we could do for you.
everlast
You know, I brought a little, you know, I've come here with just a guitar, with a keyboard player, and I was like, I'm going to bring my man from the world famous Beat Junkies, DJ Melody, over here.
unidentified
I like to pretend.
everlast
They got their own university, Beat Junkies Institute of Technology.
unidentified
Sound.
everlast
Sound.
Beat Junkies Institute of Sound in Glendale, California.
DJ Melody, shout out to Babu, J-Rock, all the homies.
joe rogan
Shout out to everybody.
everlast
Yeah, you know how we do it.
But yeah, we got some things you want.
You want us to get into something?
joe rogan
Let's get into something.
everlast
Let's do it.
I'm going to move over here real quick.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, I think it's only you and Honey Honey.
I really do.
I think so, right?
everlast
I actually feel like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Alright.
DJ Melody in the house.
Yeah.
Joe Rogan Experience.
Everlast.
unidentified
Come on.
Brand new sneakers in a back old chain.
everlast
We do the good cocaine And we don't feel no pain And no, we don't complain Everywhere I go, people know my name.
We got the money and fame.
And they don't treat me the same.
And no, I don't come back to what's that is.
Life's in Zillmatic.
Born a car static like radical fanatic.
Jump out the bins with my semi-automatic.
And rob all my friends like a fucking drug addict.
I'm revolutionary.
I'm very necessary.
You couldn't bust a cherry.
Fuck your commentary.
I'm so legendary.
Born again rhymer.
Youngsters act scary.
Went around the old timer like yes sir, no sir.
Truly it's an honor.
Farmer of drama.
Harvesting karma.
Kamikaze.
Diploma.
On suicide mission.
My mental condition about to come to fruition.
I'm all natural.
No preservative.
South superlative.
You don't deserve to live.
We never truly die.
God was never born.
Tell your vision lies.
Watch that murder porn.
Brand new sneakers in a fat gold chain.
We do the good cocaine.
We don't feel no pain.
No, we don't complain.
And everywhere I go, people know my name.
We got the money in fame.
unidentified
And they don't treat me the same.
everlast
No, I don't complain.
I smoke like Willie.
I party like Waylon.
I'm wilder than David Lee, raw than Van Halen.
I'm batshit crazier than Jay and Sarah Palen.
Here's a smooth sailing on all these rough waters.
Mothers love their son.
Fathers love their daughters.
All the things they give us.
All the things they bought us.
The love that first made us.
All the things they taught us.
Like doing none of the others.
And loving all your brothers.
unidentified
And helping out your neighbors when they need a hand.
everlast
Everyone went solo with a bug like Viola and it's hard to tell a woman sometimes from a man.
It's a ball of confusion and everybody's losing, living fake lives up on Instagram.
But everything's funny when you front for your money while the devil executes his fucking master plan like...
unidentified
Brand new sneakers and a fat gold chain.
everlast
We do the good cocaine And we don't feel no pain And no we don't complain Never welcome people to know my name We got the money in the thing.
And they don't treat me the same.
No, I don't complain.
You know I don't complain Brand new sneakers in a bad gold chain We do the good cocaine.
unidentified
And we don't feel no pain.
everlast
No, we don't complain.
unidentified
Yeah.
Woo!
That was great.
everlast
Thank you, sir.
joe rogan
I like it.
This is a new one?
everlast
Yeah.
Just released?
Yeah, it is.
You know, what happened was, right, we didn't even...
When I came in last time, I think we agreed to just fucking not talk about...
The fires and shit.
Oh, right.
We were both kind of a little traumatized, I think.
That's right.
Because what happened was I put this record out last, what did I think, October.
joe rogan
Right.
everlast
Hit the road.
and was you know maybe two weeks in and get a picture of my house on fire and had to fly home so yeah this record's out but we're right now in the product where right now i just shot a video for the for a new song and we're re-releasing because i own everything it's my label we're just gonna re-release you know og everlast on all the whatever whatever's you know formats you could find me
joe rogan
do you feel like when you get through something like a fire with your family that for some inexplicable reason you feel a little bit closer?
everlast
Oh, yeah.
Because, I mean, my wife and children were in the house when it was caught fire.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah.
Not literally.
Here's how it went down.
Let's tell the story, right?
Basically, like I said, I was in New York.
I get a call from the wife.
The fire is right across the hill.
Like, I live literally like Sydney Valley.
Then the mountains bang.
I'm kind of the first line right there once you come over those mountains.
Yeah.
So I get a picture from her across the street from me.
The hill looks like a hell landscape.
You know what I mean?
It's fucking just on fire.
So they're packing up and they're getting ready to get out.
And there's a fire truck in the neighborhood, thank goodness.
And as my wife's putting the final stuff in the car, the kids are running there, she's putting all the dogs in.
And, you know, whatever the medicines and stuff we need for Layla.
And she turns around and sees like on the corner of the garage, like an orange kind of glow.
And the thing about this is like, you know, people think the fire comes and hits the street and then jumps and burns all these houses.
That's not what happens.
If you ever notice in the middle, if you're watching the news shit, it's like one random house in the neighborhood burns.
It's trees.
It's having a tree right on your house that's touching your house.
Well, I happen to have a tree right there that was touching the corner of my garage.
The tree went up.
That thing caught.
Garage went.
About a third of the house went.
You know what I mean?
Everybody was out already.
My wife was able to...
The only reason a third of the house...
My wife saved our whole block, honestly, because there's trees between all of our houses for privacy, because everybody has a pool and nobody wants to be in two-story houses, all that shit.
So everybody just has these big, huge, just spiny-looking trees, you know what I mean, that go with that cover, turn into a wall, basically.
Right.
The whole block would have went up.
Had she not been there and had the wherewithal to run down the block and get the firemen that had just drawn by and said, come back and fucking put this out.
joe rogan
She actually ran down there?
everlast
She ran down the block, dude, and got it done.
She's a gangster.
joe rogan
The fires that were out here were so...
It's so hard for people to understand what it was like.
everlast
It was frightening.
joe rogan
It was like a war.
everlast
It was frightening.
joe rogan
It was like we were at war with a natural force.
It was very strange, man.
Everybody was holed up together.
Yeah.
Me and my family, we got a hotel in town with a bunch of our friends.
everlast
We were texting.
We were texting back and forth.
joe rogan
And Tommy and his wife, Tom Segura and his wife, they came over too.
And we were all in the same place.
We were all like refugees for a small, tiny period of time.
It makes you realize how fortunate we really are to be here in this place where we're at right now.
We don't have to deal with most of the bullshit that people are dealing with all over the world, man.
You know, we just...
One day of fire, one week of fire, whatever it was, it freaked everybody out and scared the shit, and a lot of people lost their lives, or houses, rather.
A lot of people lost their lives in Northern California, right?
everlast
Yeah, no, that was...
joe rogan
That was even worse than down there, right?
everlast
You couldn't even...
Yeah, you couldn't even, like...
Really get a perspective like for your own shit because the minute you wanted to like do that you saw an entire town flattened in like an hour.
joe rogan
Yeah, they lost people on the highway.
People were trying to get out on the highway and they get caught in their cars and they caught fire.
Man, it's horrible.
And there's...
You know, for the people that survived, like for us, and it sounds ridiculous to call yourself a survivor, it's not like it was a war, but it's something that you really understand when you get through that.
You're like, wow, we are barely in control of our own environment.
Barely.
And all it takes is one good strong wind, one good fucking hot day, one good gust of fire, and next thing you know, everything's on fire.
I mean, that was nuts.
everlast
The kids are still dealing with it, you know, trying to explain that thing to the kids, like that universal unsurety.
Like, there's just not really...
Honey, I'm going to keep you as safe as I can, but if you really want the absolute truth, I can only tell you that some shit happens.
And, you know, it was actually another big fire somewhere.
Oh...
Oddly enough, when Notre Dame caught fire, it was all on the news, and my daughter, my oldest, was like, oh, that caught fire?
I proposed to my wife in Paris, so we talk about Paris a lot.
So she looks forward to all that.
She wanted to see it.
She was really interested in Notre Dame when the thing burned.
But something about that burning, and when it did, and she saw it, she was like, oh, it can happen anywhere.
And it kind of dawned on her, like, okay, it's not just there.
Because for a long time, I couldn't even drive by the house with her to go check on it or something, if she was in the car, my wife either, because she just didn't want to be over there.
And then after that, it kind of changed, and she kind of realized, like, well, I guess it can happen anywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, if it can happen in Notre Dame.
everlast
Which was a crazy thing to witness happen in a human, like, person, like, come to that understanding of, like, wow, shit's just not guaranteed.
Like, in a weird way, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
But isn't there kind of a, there's a magic in that.
everlast
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you can get through, if you're one of the survivors, there's a magic in that that doesn't exist without the possibility of that.
everlast
I have people asking me, what are you going to do?
And I'm like, what do you mean?
They're like, you're going to build a house in the same spot?
I'm like, fucking goddamn right.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
everlast
Absolutely.
I don't live in some crazy, bizarro-like place.
I'm going to build my house right where it was.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
joe rogan
I'm going to build a house on the top of a hill.
everlast
Put the sprinklers on your house.
People have the sprinklers.
There was cats that whole neighborhoods burnt down, and then one house had the sprinklers.
That house was pristine.
joe rogan
The problem with that is you do get survivor syndrome.
You feel weird.
You get survivor guilt of the first three houses in front of me.
Right in front of my house.
everlast
You know what?
joe rogan
Three houses gone.
everlast
I could understand that if you were like the guy who kind of futuristically predicted a fire and put that on.
But after now, it's like, yo, if you didn't put shit on now, everybody knows about that shit now.
So put that shit on your house.
If you're going to live in one of these areas, we're basically in California, they're telling us now.
This might be a new norm.
You know what I mean?
These kind of fires.
That's so crazy.
unidentified
You know?
everlast
So, because there hadn't been one in the area, you know, those areas, like Gora Hills and Simi Valley, there hadn't been one for many, many, many, like a couple decades, I believe.
joe rogan
Climate change is not real.
everlast
No, it's fake.
It's fake news.
joe rogan
Something's clearly happening, right?
This is not normal.
Right, if you had a guess.
unidentified
Not in my 36 years.
joe rogan
It seems like there's been an adjustment.
everlast
I've been the same Irish white motherfucker all my life, and I didn't burn like this when I was young.
unidentified
When did you move to L.A.? Oh, I've been here most of my life.
everlast
I was born in New York and whatever and probably did a kindergarten part of first grade out there.
My dad was a construction dude during the 70s boom of Simi Valley and all that shit being built.
He came out during that era.
joe rogan
Nobody talked about crazy fires back then.
Did they?
They didn't, right?
everlast
No, not really.
joe rogan
I got evacuated for the first time while we were filming Fear Factor, and I remember I was driving home, and it started, there was a fire, it seemed like it was a little bit out of control, like, wow, this is crazy, and I'm driving to work.
And then we filmed the day, and then as we're driving home, people are letting us know, hey man, this is bad.
This has gotten really bad.
And as we're driving home, a guy got hit by a car, and he got killed.
And I didn't see his body, but I saw his shoe.
And we're like passing by where like all these people were freaking out because a guy apparently just tried to run into the highway and some guy hit him because he was panicking because there was a bunch of shit going on.
There was fire.
I don't know if he was panicking.
But something happened.
A guy got hit by a car.
So it has this ominous feeling of, whoa, somebody just died.
And we're driving down this highway, and the whole right side is on fire.
I mean, the whole right side of the highway for an hour, like a Lord of the Rings movie.
everlast
Mordor.
joe rogan
Dude, like flakes of ash are falling from the sky like a light snow.
unidentified
It's fucking strange.
joe rogan
You're just waiting for demons to come riding on fucking horses over the top of the hills.
It's that bad.
And by the time I got back, we had to evacuate from our community, and we just got the fuck out of Dodge.
That was the first time that had ever happened, ever, for me, living out here since 94. And that was in like 2002, 2003, something like that.
And then it's happened twice since then.
It's a creepy feeling, man.
It's creepy.
It's like you know that no one can do anything if everything goes wrong.
If everything goes wrong, the wind gets too strong, and it gets too wide, and it goes left, and it goes right, and everything starts swirling around, and ashes fly through the air, and they land on other people's houses, like, you gotta get the fuck out of there.
Just get out of there.
There's a storm of fire.
everlast
Alright, so I get a picture.
The last thing before I get on a plane is a picture of my garage engulfed in flames.
So I get on this plane.
I gotta take like three planes because it's like last minute booking and it's all coach.
I'm pissed.
I'm just tucked in corners on the walls.
I just fly to Dallas and to Vegas just to get there the quickest.
And it was like three flights.
So I get there.
The whole way there, I'm like, my house is burned to the ground.
You know what I mean?
I'm dealing with those whatever five stages of grief.
I'm getting to acceptance.
And then I get home.
Not even at home.
My wife and kids are at my studio.
And that's where we're laid up.
We're trying to figure out what the fuck's going on.
I can't get to the house because the whole one-on-one shut down that way.
I have to literally drive.
Up Topanga, hit the 118, take that all the way out to like the 20, whatever it is, the 3, 23?
Or the 27?
I don't know.
It's one of those.
No, it's the 23. It's like out there.
And you come back down and come around the other way.
And I was able to get to the house.
I got to the house.
I got in my house.
Literally had 20 fucking cop cars roll in, like, because looting was fucking out of control, dude.
Oh, sure.
In the, like, Agora and Calabasas areas.
joe rogan
Oak Park, too.
everlast
It was Oak Park.
Yeah, well, that's, I don't know.
I think that is Agora and the same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
But, yeah, the whole over there was fucking, like, off the chain with fucking looting.
So, like, I had motherfuckers pull up on me.
I literally knew, like, I brought my lease and my mortgage and my electric bill, and I brought my, you know, I had all my shit, so, like, this is my house, and they were cool.
But it was, like, I pulled up and, like, saw most of the house standing and, like, broke down.
Because I'm a big art collector in Arkansas.
I was, like, I had already, like, changed.
just assumed it was all gone right you know and you know it was crazy it was a crazy experience to like pull up and like see like two-thirds of it there and you're like oh wow like maybe there's salvage or like in the salvage shit like it was like a crazy experience man I'm grateful that my family is safe and all that and all the rest of it is replaceable stuff but I got extremely Yeah, no, the most...
joe rogan
I mean, it's such a cliche thing to say that your health and your happiness and your family is the most important thing.
You know that.
Everybody knows that.
Even a fucking psychopath knows that.
But to feel it, to feel it, like in the presence of a natural fury, like fires, like wildfires, it's humbling.
And in the strangest of ways, it makes you love each other more.
It makes you nicer to people.
All my refugee friends...
You know, when we're at the hotel that night, you know, the refugees from the fire, we're all, like, closer.
We're, like, happy.
everlast
For sure.
joe rogan
You know, in a weird way.
You know, we're having drinks together, we're toasting, we're hugging.
We're in a hotel, hiding from a natural fury.
And you realize, like, oh, okay, we get soft when we hit a soft spot.
And that's not necessarily good for anybody.
And occasionally these horrific things that happen are good for us overall.
Because they let us appreciate, like, there's consequences.
There's consequences to living here.
There's consequences to everything being so hot and dry and never fucking raining.
And the fact that it may or may not be getting a little bit warmer.
everlast
Maybe.
Maybe.
joe rogan
Who gives a fuck if people have anything to do with it?
Who cares?
Let's pretend that's not even a factor.
Something's happening.
Something's happening.
We got firestorms.
Like every few years is a goddamn firestorm.
You know?
everlast
Craziness, man.
Well, we survived it, brother.
Cilancia.
joe rogan
Cilancia.
There's only so much shit to think about.
You having gone through that, man, have you written shit that has the touch of that on it?
everlast
I'm in a very creative state at the moment.
I don't know.
I'm sure there's elements of it in what I'm starting to play with right now.
joe rogan
Do you sit down and write on a piece of paper?
Or do you write while you're playing music?
everlast
For me, writing is a visual process.
joe rogan
Visual?
everlast
Yes.
And I can't...
If I write it down, it becomes two-dimensional.
I've written lyrics that I thought were genius and actually committed them to paper and saw them.
And it's like they dissolve from this three-dimensional beauty to like, oh, it's two-dimensional garbage.
It's fucking bizarre, I know.
It's not always reasonable, but it's my process at this point.
joe rogan
How's it visual?
everlast
If you really listen to my songs, they're like photograph-like.
It's like flipping through a photographic album, almost.
If you really listen to what I'm doing, it's very visual.
I see the pictures.
I equate it to like, did you ever watch the show Oz?
joe rogan
Sure.
everlast
Remember the poet guy who was illiterate, but he drew pictures and that's how he recited his poems, from pictures.
It's similar.
But it's kind of reverse.
It's in my brain.
It's there.
joe rogan
So you're saying your visual in terms of like the stories you're painting.
Like the guy outside the liquor store.
everlast
Or the imagery, yes.
Or like, you know, a song like Black Jesus where it's like just kind of cultural, like fucking pop culture reference after reference leading down a path of just like stream of consciousness pop culture references.
You know what I mean?
I'll go on tangents, you know what I mean?
But it'll be all within...
An energy inside the brain.
You know what I mean?
Once I commit them...
Even after the fact, when you turn in music to entities that shows or whatever, they want to know the lyrics so they can know if they should put it on air or this.
It depends on whatever, if it's public network.
But even when it comes to that, I have to recite it to somebody and have them type it.
It'll just kind of taint it to me.
joe rogan
Wow, that's interesting.
To see it written down like that.
everlast
In my hand, you know what I mean?
In another hand, it doesn't bother me, but for me to do it, it breaks a barrier of some sort.
Everything vaporizes.
joe rogan
So how do you capture the various beats?
Do you record it as you're coming up with it?
everlast
There's a few different ways it happens for me.
Like, you know, if I'm doing, like, a hip-hop-ish or pure hip-hop project, there'll be a beat involved always first.
You know what I mean?
There'll be somebody who have a track, and we'll be like, oh, that's the track we're going to commit to, and we'll write lyrics to it.
And it'll be just kind of, like I said, I'll drive around a lot with rap stuff and just let it bump and see what words start popping up.
I like wordplay and bouncing wordplay, but it can't just be wordplay for the sake of it.
It has to, like, tie into some sort of, like, idea.
When it comes to a song, it's usually I string together some simple chord progression and once I see something I really like, like I said, pictures will start coming up and you kind of just try to describe the picture a little bit and sometimes you come across poetry when you're describing the picture and you'll be like, that's good.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of like, no, that's not good.
No, that's not good.
There's a lot of that.
unidentified
There's a lot of that.
joe rogan
It seems like a mirror process to stand-up comedy.
Like a mirror process.
everlast
Except I get to hold on to mine.
Even if they record it and make a special, I still can play mine.
And that's what I was like, man, comedians are just...
That's a little bit...
It's a different commitment because you're bringing...
It's almost like a child you're raising that you have to watch...
The life of it finish.
In a weird way.
You know what I mean?
We both have children.
That's extreme.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
everlast
You're taking this idea from kind of garbagey idea that you know there's a premise there, and then over a fucking series of fucking shows or nights or fucking maybe months, you find it with different audiences, and then you got it, and you get to rock it for maybe six months good in all these places, and then you go and record it and make that special, if you're lucky enough to be on that level.
It's almost like I almost envy the comic.
I wonder if you guys ever envy the comic who doesn't quite have that yet so he has this bevy of material that he hasn't had to trash yet.
joe rogan
I just talked to Roy Wood about that.
It was just on right before you.
That's one of the things that he said, that you shouldn't do TV for like 10 years.
unidentified
Have a catalog, man!
joe rogan
People come up with that idea that the first time you do anything that people get to see, be hardened.
To be a polished samurai of stand-up, you know, but...
I disagree.
I say let them see everything.
Let them see all the bullshit, all the stuff that sucks, all the terrible jokes.
Who cares?
Just keep going.
everlast
Especially if the progression's there.
Then it's like, oh, you see what happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, just keep going.
And it's good for everybody.
See, people don't want to think you're just like someone who just figured it out instantly.
No, it's good to see that you sucked.
It's good for everybody.
It might be bad for your ego, but it's good for you when your ego takes a hit.
It's always good.
It's always good.
It puts everything in perspective.
As an artist, too, the thing that gets in your way more than anything is your ego, right?
The thing that gets in your way more than anything is the way you view yourself, the way you want people to view you.
everlast
I wouldn't produce my own records until maybe two albums ago, because I felt like if I'd made it through an album without being seriously challenged, I didn't make the best record I could.
And then just being involved with a bunch of really seriously good producers, I learned to challenge myself.
And even the records I've produced for myself, there's other guys involved producing with me that I know are going to be the ones, if that's something, hey, that sucked.
You know what I mean?
You can eat that guy around.
Or even a guy just to challenge how committed you are to certain ideas.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
How much time do you spend...
Going over...
Like, when you have a song and you're like, I think this song is solid.
Do you...
Outside of singing the song, do you ever go over the song and ponder, like, what you're saying or how you're saying it?
Like, how do you...
Because your stuff is so...
It's so interesting because you're telling these stories of your experiences in these songs, in a lot of them.
And you're also having fun, and you're also talking shit.
You're having a good time with them as well.
But when you decide, okay, this one is going to be recorded like this, how do you make that conclusion?
everlast
For me, it's...
Again, if there's not like...
Because I can also...
Even if I'm not doing necessarily a straight rap song, there's times when I get a track from a producer that I just love the track and I'll build something around that.
Other than that, it'll again start with a guitar and I'll either create a very rudimentary drum beat and lay down the guitar and maybe a vocal...
And I have a very unique voice.
Between the guitar and the voice, tones start appearing that resemble other instruments to me.
It almost starts telling you what to do.
Oh, I can hear a Rhodes in there.
Or the bass line should do that.
You can hear that.
And the guys I surround myself with are beasts that hear the same.
They know, oh yeah, I hear that.
A song will tell you what to do with it.
You know, if you really listen to it, I believe that.
Because I kind of, you know, one of the things Santana told me, you know, that I always held on to is like, you know, and I've experienced this once or twice where I've written very similar songs to friends of mine or people I know that was like, whoa.
Maybe not sounding, but like the idea.
Oh, wow, I wrote something that was exactly...
And he said, like, you know, we're all just antennae that are, like, catching energies and shit and, like, bringing them in and we're, you know, making something out of that energy.
And sometimes people catch that same energy and similar things happen, you know.
And so I always look at a dad...
I look at my ideas like this, but also because I don't write them down, I equate it to my children like this.
My ideas are like little animals that are wild, and I see them and I think they're amazing, and so I'll play a song until I know it so well.
It has to stick around.
I train it to stay, and if it stays the next morning, this kind of answers your question, the next day.
If I'm on to something and I write a song, I'll sing it 200 times if I get it close to done, and then I'll go to bed.
And then if it's there in the morning in the same form, I'll record it.
If it's gone, it wasn't mine.
And that's happened a lot.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a brave move.
I have the opposite coward's approach.
If I get an idea, I'll run away from everybody with my fingers in my ears and write it down.
everlast
Now, hear what I said.
I'll sing it 200 times.
You know what I mean?
So if I've done it 200 times and I don't wake up and know it, it's fucking trash.
joe rogan
I write everything down.
everlast
It's not supposed to happen.
joe rogan
I have the total opposite approach in terms of writing comedy.
everlast
How many specials have you made in your life?
joe rogan
I never counted.
everlast
Rough guess.
joe rogan
It's like eight or nine.
everlast
All right.
That's how many albums I've done in almost 30 years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
You know what I mean?
So it's like I'm not turning them out like that.
And I don't, again, because of that, there's not like this crazy archive of garbage that's going to be released when I'm dead.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen because even songs that I start to record, if I get halfway through it and I'm like not even satisfied with it, it gets erased.
Yeah.
There's a few things out there that I probably wouldn't have released, but they're like from House of Pain days.
And they're not bad.
They didn't have a purpose.
joe rogan
I think it's good for people to see bad shit from great artists.
I do.
I think it's good.
It's good for everybody.
everlast
I have no problem.
I mean, I'm the guy that I'll fuck up live and talk about it for five minutes at a show.
And be like, yo, at least you know it's not on fucking tape.
unidentified
Right?
everlast
I'll be like, that's real shit.
You know, I'm with that.
I'm just like, it's my process.
It's like just the way I do.
Again, also I think it has to do with, I have some really hardcore producers like DJ Muggs and My man Dante Ross.
These were dudes that would be like, that fucking was garbage.
Do it again.
It's for so long that the first time now is going to be decent.
You know what I mean?
So it's like I got to push myself for it to be better than decent.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
No, I get it.
everlast
Otherwise, I just clip it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's the only way you could be as productive as you are.
You have a well-oiled approach, you know?
everlast
But I don't put out a lot of music.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I know for a fact that when you put something out, you're happy about it.
everlast
Oh, yeah.
I'm content.
joe rogan
That's when you put it out.
everlast
Content with it.
joe rogan
You're in a great position, man, that you can kind of sort of decide what to do and when to do it.
everlast
Writing three of the biggest songs of the 90s...
With What It's Like Jump Around and Put Your Lights On.
Well, that was 2000, I think.
But that little period, I wrote those songs, Jump Around with Mugs, What It's Like, and Put Your Lights On, totally on my own.
That provided me with something that I cherish, like some people cherish private jet rides, which is I can do whatever the fuck I want.
And still live pretty decent, not super rich guy or anything, but better than average, good life, take care of my family.
But creatively, I can do whatever the fuck I want.
And it's a beautiful thing, man.
The older I get, I'm on my whole new shit.
My slogan is, fuck it, I'm 50, man.
That's my new shit, dawg.
You ain't gonna rattle me, man.
I'm 50. I don't even care.
How's that?
Good.
unidentified
I like it.
everlast
There you go.
I'm just trying to have fun, live my life, go home, hug my kids, and fucking know that nobody fucked with them at school and they had a great day and then my universe is complete.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck it, I'm 50. Fuck it, I'm 50. Yeah.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
We need more people to think like that, man.
We're wasting time doing that.
everlast
I had a heart valve replacement at 28, dude.
I didn't think I was going to make 35. You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
So, 50s...
joe rogan
People, put that microphone on the chest.
everlast
We haven't done that in a while, so here.
Anybody who don't know, this is a heartbeat.
It's not a watch.
Watch, it's my heartbeat.
unidentified
It's like a goddamn metronome.
Whoa.
everlast
It's titanium, man.
joe rogan
Wrap your head around that.
unidentified
You know?
everlast
I got alien technology in my chest, my dude.
joe rogan
I hope it stays together.
I hope the doors don't fly off that thing.
Click, click, click.
That's crazy.
everlast
It's basically a very simple thing.
It's like a ring that goes in the valve, and it's like a spring kind of activated flap that...
It's totally self-propelled by the heart's pumping of the blood.
It pumps the blood out of the flap.
Then the flap kind of snaps back.
And that's what you're hearing is the tick.
It's just the spring of that.
I mean, I could take my pulse without just sitting here, dude.
I could take my pulse without even thinking about it.
joe rogan
Modern technology is so amazing.
everlast
St. Jude's valve.
joe rogan
Shout out to the St. Jude's people.
everlast
Whoever invented that shit, Gleep Glorp from the motherfucking Vega and Star System, whatever.
joe rogan
They can figure out a way to make your heart work again with a fake valve.
Click, click, click.
everlast
It's wild.
joe rogan
And that's why you're here.
everlast
That's why I'm still here, man.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
everlast
I often wondered afterwards, like, why?
Why did it?
unidentified
Why?
everlast
John Ritter, what killed him, was exactly kind of what happened to me.
But I was able to get to the hospital faster.
joe rogan
Did you ever meet that guy?
everlast
No.
But I know that when it happened, people pointed it out, like, isn't that what happened to you?
I was like, oh yeah, that was.
joe rogan
He was a special dude.
He was on an episode of NewsRadio.
everlast
Everybody loved him.
joe rogan
I loved him, man.
Like, so nice.
Like, wandered around the set, like, friendly to everybody.
Like, in a weird way.
Like, he's just a genuinely really nice guy who just loved making sitcoms.
And, um, when he died, I was like, oh.
everlast
Yeah, it's one of them things that's just out of nowhere.
joe rogan
When you find out that someone that's, like, you feel like, ah, nothing's gonna happen to him.
He's so nice.
And then one day, the clutch...
The clutch of death.
everlast
I was told by the people at the hospital when I went back to visit once that a while after they had brought me in because it took them a minute to figure out what was wrong with me.
The only reason they figured out what was wrong with me is because my actual doctor Who's this guy in Beverly Hills?
I'm not going to say his name because I don't know if he wants that.
But he was a member on the board of Cedar Sinai.
So when they brought me in the hospital, all his records are computer accessible to them.
So they found out about my history of being born with this heart defect.
Because up until then, they heard Rock Dude, he's a musician, and they were like, alright, how much cocaine did you do?
And all my friends were telling him, he doesn't do cocaine.
unidentified
And they were like, if we give him the wrong drugs, we can kill him.
everlast
And then all of a sudden, the records came through, and that's what saved my ass.
That along with the head of surgery there, the guy who did a double eight.
Nine-hour surgery came off of one, told the guys they couldn't do my surgery because it was too complex.
This guy, Dr. William Trento, he's an amazing person.
He will not mind me shouting him out.
He goes to South America and does all these free operations on kids' hearts.
He's a fucking saint.
This guy, I'll tell you off, fucking show some other shit he did that'll blow your fucking mind.
Like, wow, who does that?
But he saved my life.
Like I said, I didn't expect to be here.
50. Fuck it.
I'm 50, man.
I've got two little girls.
My whole thing right now is I want to take my girls in the next week or two over to see them.
Just to be like, yo, dude, these people wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for you, dude.
I think that would blow his mind a little bit.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Shout out to all the people who fix hearts.
All those people.
everlast
Fix anything.
Fix all things, you know?
joe rogan
Fix all things.
everlast
If you fix shit, fucking salute.
joe rogan
Right, that's a positive thing.
everlast
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fix stuff.
everlast
I don't care if it's a sink or a heart.
unidentified
Or a car.
everlast
If you fix it, anything in between, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, isn't that weird?
everlast
Fixing shit is good.
joe rogan
Fixing hearts, though, that's like particularly good.
Like when that guy sees you on TV and shit, he's probably like...
Fix that guy.
everlast
It's been a minute, but yeah, he probably fixed that guy.
joe rogan
Fixed it up.
Fixed it up nice.
Fixed it up nice.
He enjoys music?
Thank you.
Then you enjoy my work.
everlast
Fuck it.
I'm going to tell this story.
I'm going to tell it.
Here's the story.
A few years after my heart surgery, like when I had my heart surgery, I didn't have medical insurance.
I was young and dumb.
I just didn't have it.
So it fucking caused a real fucking, it was like a half a million dollar fucking hit.
But I didn't declare bankruptcy.
I paid it all.
And I think this dude heard about that.
I think guys like this must somehow invest in you when they know they saved your fucking life.
There's a connection after that.
Like, that's one of my guys right there.
So, a few years later, my mom, when I was young, had, I believe, Hodgkin's disease is what it was.
And she had radiation treatment and she beat it and all that.
But 20 years later, that shit wears on your heart valves and shit.
She had to have a triple bypass.
Like, it was kind of like, oh, shit.
Like, I was out on tour.
I had to come home.
I was like, I want that guy to do the surgery just because he had already done mine.
So he does my mom's surgery.
And this guy fucking, I get all the bills.
And now I'm doing alright, so it was cool.
I get a bill from the fucking anesthesiologist.
I get a bill from the fucking operating room.
I get a bill from the hospital.
I get a bill from this.
I never got a bill from this man for my mom's surgery.
Dude just was like, nah, that one's on me.
Fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Who gets a surgery done on them?
everlast
Right?
joe rogan
That's an amazing guy.
everlast
It was crazy, dude.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
everlast
No, this dude goes, and then I like started looking into who he was, and this guy goes and does like fucking tons and tons of like surgeries on kids down in South America, and he's just one of them dudes, man.
joe rogan
Who saves your mom on the house?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What?
everlast
That guy.
joe rogan
You saved your mom on the house.
everlast
God bless him.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
There's nice people out there.
There really are.
We're fed this false narrative that everybody sucks because so many people do suck.
But there's so many people.
It's just a perspective issue.
It's the same reason why people think the world is flat.
They don't understand perspective.
The perspective when you're talking about human beings and seven billion people.
We're just overflowing with people.
There's so many of us.
There's so many stories of people sucking.
But it's all a perspective issue.
Because there's so many goddamn people.
And most of them are cool.
And most of them want to be cool.
And they would be more cool if they knew you were going to be cool.
We all agree to be cool.
We can be cool.
We can have a better time here.
We're wasting time with nonsense and arguments and conflict that all could have been disrupted from the very beginning by everybody being nice.
everlast
This is why we need the alien invasion.
Because a lot of people are invested in a lot of shit that's meaningless.
We won't even go into it.
We can all infer what those things are between us.
And the audience can do the same.
But what I'm saying is there's just too much fucking bullshit about dumb shit that we need some kind of outside fucking focus.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
100%.
everlast
Something that will take us from outside ourselves and make us focus on something else.
joe rogan
Or legalized mushrooms.
everlast
Which might be global warming, but that's not real, right?
joe rogan
No, legalized mushrooms, move to Greenland.
Trump's on it.
He's already trying to buy Greenland.
Is he trying to buy Greenland?
everlast
Dude, no!
He canceled his fucking trip to Denmark because they said they're not going to sell him Greenland.
joe rogan
He's talking Chet.
No, he knows what he's doing.
Listen, Trump's going to get us Greenland.
everlast
When you and I... The fucking thing is, it's like...
joe rogan
I believe he said...
everlast
It's like fucking...
Oh, man.
I can't...
It's a bizarro world.
That's all.
That's all.
joe rogan
I think people go to Greenland to bow hunt.
I think they bow hunt that gigantic fucking furry thing.
What is that thing called?
The muskox.
Google Greenland muskox.
You ever see a muskox?
everlast
No, but I want to see one and I also want to know when I'm getting invited for an elk barbecue, dude.
Come on.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
I'm going to put a kitchen in here, in this place.
I have plans.
I'll tell you.
everlast
I'll come play it.
joe rogan
Hold, please.
Let me show you a muskox.
jamie vernon
100% success rate on bow hunting in Greenland on a muskox.
joe rogan
Because you just walk right up to them.
Oh, you know what it is?
Because they have an instinct to protect themselves against wolves, so they all huddle together when threatened.
everlast
So you can just catch them all in a group?
joe rogan
You just walk right up to them and bow hunt them.
Yeah, but look what they look like, bro.
They don't even look real.
They look like something out of Star Wars.
Those are kind of interesting, but look, go to the side, Jamie, some of those other images.
When you see...
Yeah, they're like that.
Perfect.
You see that walking around.
You'll be like, what the fuck is that, man?
everlast
It looks like a tauntaun.
joe rogan
That's insane!
It looks like a lion fucked...
Elephant.
Fucked a mammoth.
What is that?
A buffalo?
What is that?
The fuck is that thing?
Those crazy ass horns.
Wild mane.
everlast
Looks like a buffalo with a Tina Turner wig.
joe rogan
And dude, it could be 150 million degrees below zero.
Those things just chill.
They're just out there eating frozen grass.
everlast
The horns come from like their cheekbones.
joe rogan
Dude, they're crazy looking.
Barely looks like a real thing.
Barely.
They're beautiful.
And apparently...
everlast
Tastes good?
joe rogan
Apparently it's fucking fantastic.
Yeah.
everlast
That's awesome.
joe rogan
My friend Brendan Burns shot one in...
I think he said he got his either in Antarctica.
You can go to really, really cold climates and get...
I think it's like...
Is it northern Canada?
There's somewhere in northern Canada where you hunt them where it's crazy.
You just get on...
You either get pulled by snowmobiles or you get pulled by dogs.
And you go, like, way, way, way the fuck out.
Where if you break down, if your snowmobile breaks down, or if your dogs all die, you are fucked.
I mean, you are so, so, so, so, so fucked.
Because there's nothing, man.
There's nothing.
There's the occasional polar bear and these fucking muskox.
And they're up there, and they don't even look like real things.
And you're stumbling across, like, imagine going through a white-out snowstorm to stumble across this 2,000-pound, enormous, gigantic, hairy, prehistoric beast that you could just walk up to and shoot with a bow and arrow and eat.
That's what's up there right now.
They're like a remnant of the past.
everlast
I want to see if they fight with those things.
joe rogan
They probably use it to fuck up other males.
Most of those animals, they're not fighting off predators with that shit.
everlast
It's definitely related to breeding and all that shit, for sure.
joe rogan
They think some of it is like in some animals depending upon how much pressure they get from predators like elk keep their antlers very late to keep their antlers like into March and April because a lot of them live around wolves and the idea is that they need those antlers to protect themselves from wolves so they hold on to them longer than deer do biology It's real.
everlast
Crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, we're so lucky.
We're so lucky we're out here.
everlast
Out the food chain?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Not only out the food chain, you and I can go right down the street and get a fat steak dinner, friend.
everlast
Is that on the agenda?
joe rogan
I cannot this evening, but I would like to do it soon.
everlast
You know our spot?
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
I'm sparking this, man.
joe rogan
Oh, you're crazy!
You're living on the edge.
Do you have the lighter?
everlast
Oh, I won't do it.
joe rogan
You don't use a lighter?
everlast
Yeah, I'm saying.
Oh, it's right here.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I thought maybe you were one of those, I only use a mask.
unidentified
And it will play into the next tune we're going to do in a minute.
joe rogan
They come off the top.
Yeah, they come off the top.
Sorry, I wasn't even thinking that.
everlast
Oh, it's like a helmet-y kind of thing.
I see.
joe rogan
I think they fuck things up with that bony part in the front above their eyebrows.
They keep those for life, too.
It's not like a deer.
You know, a deer loses their antlers every year.
These motherfuckers.
everlast
It looks like a fucked up hairdo.
joe rogan
It does.
They're so beautiful, though.
They're so beautiful.
Like that one right there, Jamie.
Click above.
everlast
Like their mom did their hair for church right there.
joe rogan
Above.
Right there.
Click on that.
unidentified
Make it larger.
joe rogan
That's a beautiful creature.
I mean, it's so amazing that nature can make fish.
It can make an eagle.
everlast
It's a type of buffalo, yes.
joe rogan
And it can make that.
everlast
Like buffalo or?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
What is it?
everlast
Bison related?
Ox.
joe rogan
It's an ox.
Must ox.
everlast
Aren't they all related?
Bison and all that?
joe rogan
I wish I knew.
unidentified
Kids facts.
joe rogan
Kids facts?
What does it say?
It's cattle.
Often compared to cattle.
unidentified
It's like a cow with a big coat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a northern cow.
It's an herbivore.
unidentified
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Furry highland cow.
joe rogan
Part of the Bovedae family.
All the species in this family have two toed hooves, four chambered stomachs, and are herbivores.
So it's like a kind of cow type thing.
Fuck, it's amazing.
everlast
You think aliens mutate them?
joe rogan
Nope.
Nope.
That's what we're supposed to be right now.
What we're supposed to be right now is some sort of stupid, fucking hairy, dumbass that's running around getting eaten by shit.
But the aliens came down and said, listen, let's just plant some of our stuff in these monkeys and see what we can do.
everlast
I'm in, dude.
When are they coming back?
joe rogan
That's what happened, man.
everlast
That's what I'm saying.
When are they coming back?
joe rogan
Probably pretty soon.
unidentified
Soon.
everlast
It's got to be, dude.
joe rogan
I feel like it's been brought up more and more in the narrative, and every time we go to sleep, we wake up in a new universe.
And I think along those lines that...
They're coming.
They're on the way right now.
Which is not quite ready yet.
Everlast.
Maybe you are.
But some people are not.
Some people, if the aliens were hovering over Universal Studios right now...
everlast
Lose they minds.
Lose they minds.
joe rogan
Moving down to 101...
Over the Hollywood Bowl.
everlast
It'd be amazing.
joe rogan
And those little fucking times.
everlast
Whether it was the end or the beginning or whatever, it would be amazing.
joe rogan
It would be very interesting.
everlast
The whole thing would go down, you know what I mean?
If it was the end of all, cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
I mean, I'm not saying, hey, break it off, but I'm saying, if that's what it is, it is.
Or if it's the next stage of enlightenment and fucking all that goodness, cool.
joe rogan
What do you think people would do if one of them hovered over every major city?
You know what I think?
everlast
What we're talking about is what would the majorly religious do?
Because I think that would affect religious thought the most right off top.
You know what I mean?
Besides the fear of like, what are they here for?
The first thing was like, whoa, a whole bunch of ideology goes out the fucking window right now.
You know what I mean?
So that would cause a lot of panic and anxiety right there alone.
You know, you tell them your whatever story of whatever religion.
I'm not going to even go there.
I like that thing.
Let's blanket it.
It's going to upset a lot of folk.
You know what I mean?
Right away.
Just like, oh my God.
That's not what we thought existed.
We're the center of everything.
joe rogan
You know what I think would happen?
I think people would just start fucking...
everlast
Flat earthers go out the window right away.
That just is over.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
Maybe the aliens travel here from another dimension and they have a new explanation for it.
The thing about being a flat earther or the thing about any kind of thing that you could decide was already proven is that it doesn't matter what the facts are anymore.
What matters is what people agree to.
That's what's interesting about it.
You realize that there's a certain number of people you need to have to start a community, and it doesn't have to make sense.
You just have to have enough people that agree to it.
If enough people agree to it, you can push some pretty preposterous ideas through, and a bunch of people hop on board, and they're happy to be on your group.
That's the problem with groups.
The problem with groups is people will just join the groups.
everlast
Isn't that the big lie?
The big lie thing.
The whole Mein Kampf.
joe rogan
Yep.
everlast
Big lie theory.
I believe that's where I'm quoting that from.
joe rogan
I mean, even if you think about a country, right?
You think about a country and you think about America, which we both love and live in.
everlast
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
What is it?
It's an idea.
It's an idea.
It's an idea that everybody who's in this thing is cool to each other.
Everybody who's in this thing is part of a team.
That's really what it is.
everlast
Bring us your broken masses and all that stuff from the Statue of Liberty.
joe rogan
I think about this thing.
everlast
Four huddled masses?
joe rogan
It's been a while.
I'm fucking 50. Right, but I know what you're saying.
It's like whatever we are.
We are what we agree we are.
We are what we agree we are.
Most of what we're in conflict about is fucking stupid.
And as a country, we're supposed to agree that we're all in this together.
So if we're all in this together, it should be good for everybody.
We can do that.
We can do that better than we think we can.
everlast
Way better.
joe rogan
Way better.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
But the problem is the conflict.
Some of it's unnecessary, man.
That's a good sound effect for that moment.
Perfect.
You know, some of it is just unnecessary.
And it's these moments, man.
It's moments when we have fun.
Moments when we get together.
Moments when we hug.
Moments when we have a drink together.
Moments when we listen to some music.
Moments when we're all leaving a concert together or a movie together that we realize, like, we're all in this together.
We're alright.
It's just like, we just gotta navigate it better.
That's all it is.
We're crashing into each other.
everlast
Honestly, it goes moments we mourn together.
I mean, honestly, I mean, I hate to say this, but, you know, I see a lot of my older friends more at funerals lately than other events.
But they turn into celebrations, you know what I mean?
Because we all understand, like, all right, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Hey, I'm glad I am seeing you right now.
Let's fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
everlast
And whoever it was that we're celebrating definitely doesn't want that.
They want this.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
everlast
I don't.
When I go party the fuck up, party the fuck up and say, that guy did aight.
He did aight.
He was a pretty good dad.
joe rogan
Made a few bucks.
everlast
Made a few bucks.
That's Dana, man.
Dana just played that song no matter what.
I mean, God love it.
I gotta get my 25 cents, man.
I gotta get my 25 cents every episode, dog.
Man, come on.
You begrudging me my 25 cents?
joe rogan
I love it.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
I was walking out of the octagon.
I forget who...
Who I was interviewing.
everlast
My favorite is this.
Every once in a while.
Like, there's a few people who choose that song.
Like, Cynthia Cavillo.
joe rogan
Well, let's shout out to the first.
Marcus Davis.
everlast
Yeah, Marcus Davis.
He did the first thing, and then he went into the Jump Around.
But some people, every once in a while, I don't know, maybe if they picked a bad song or something.
Like, out of nowhere, one time, like, Lyoto Machida came out to Jump Around, and I'm like...
I texted Dana.
I was like, who the fuck picked that?
He's like, I did.
And he didn't go any further.
unidentified
And I was like, oh, he must have picked the song Dana Hated or something.
joe rogan
Well, some of these cats, they'll choose music.
And Dana was like, nah.
everlast
And I think the go-to jam, if you fucking pick something he doesn't like, is Jump Around.
Because I'll be like, that was random, man.
I was like, how did that happen?
joe rogan
It's funny.
It's funny when there's a song that plays all the time and connects you to one of your friends.
It's like, as I'm walking out of the octagon, it's like...
everlast
There was a period of about six years where anywhere Dana was, he could be on the other side of the world, I'm sleeping somewhere, I'd get a phone call and it'd just be a phone in the air at a club.
I'd be like, dude, come on.
joe rogan
You guys nailed that song so hard.
There's moments in space-time that get nailed.
You just hit something that resonates with people.
everlast
I steal Danny Boy's quote of, it's the Louie Louie of the 90s.
It's Louie Louie.
It's just there.
It's almost not mine anymore.
It belongs to the universe.
It's weird.
Every ball game I go to, any event I go to, it gets played.
And it's not even a big deal.
Some places it's a big deal.
You get these football games, college shit, like Wisconsin's and stuff, where it's part of a tradition.
But I'm saying any event, an Angels game, a Dodgers game, a Yankees game, a Laker game, a football game, it pops up somewhere along the line.
joe rogan
Dude, you're right up there with Queens.
everlast
It's crazy.
It's wild.
I mean, you're talking about individual songs and their imprint on something.
It's bananas.
It's something to like...
You can't almost invest your thought in it because it can get like, whoa.
It's really kind of a part of pop culture.
It's ingrained on an American phenomenon.
And worldwide...
Worldwide.
I mean, where can you go where they probably never heard Jump Around?
It's weird.
I mean, to think about it on that level is crazy.
joe rogan
Maybe like one of them places where Trump's trying to buy.
Maybe up in Greenland?
everlast
No.
They heard it.
They heard it.
joe rogan
Queen had We Are the Champions.
And it also had We Will Rock You.
Those are two of the greatest sports anthems of all time.
Queen nailed two of them.
Like, what other fucking band has two of them?
We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions.
everlast
It's actually the same song, too.
joe rogan
Is it the same song?
everlast
Isn't it?
Yeah, they blend into each other.
joe rogan
Oh, but they're two different songs.
everlast
Technically?
They're technically connected.
joe rogan
Like, if you had to buy them on iTunes, you'd have to buy two songs.
everlast
I think, is it a Slash in there?
Is it a We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions?
joe rogan
They come together?
everlast
Yeah, yeah.
There's no space.
joe rogan
Was it two and three, or was it recognized as one individual song?
unidentified
On the label, it was listed as two different titles.
joe rogan
Two different titles.
You're not mic'd up.
People can't hear you, so I'm trying to...
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Sorry.
Here we go.
Sorry.
DJ, man.
unidentified
So yeah, so that was actually one of the first albums I got when I was a kid, but on the actual label Which has like the titles of the songs they were listed as two different titles But on the actual vinyl the surface of the record it was one groove So the songs just went right into each other So so if you were in a diner and you put like those quarters in that thing and you played that right give you one song Or would he give you no it usually gives you both It gives you both.
joe rogan
Remember, man?
Diner music?
unidentified
Yeah.
I was listening to...
everlast
I feel like my memory...
joe rogan
Get that microphone on.
everlast
I feel like my memory...
I'll share with you.
I feel like my memory...
I see a We Will Rock You slash We Are The Champions thing going on in that kind of sense.
I feel like you would have got both songs.
I don't remember.
There is no stop.
There's not even a clean place to edit it, really, if I'm right.
joe rogan
It's crazy that it's two songs.
Do you remember those wheels of the diners in the East Coast that would roll?
Yeah, it's kind of a slash.
Oh, so it's two songs.
unidentified
It's two different songs.
joe rogan
It's two songs, but it's one.
unidentified
So I was just driving a 45. It only has We Will Rock You on one side.
everlast
That's interesting.
unidentified
I was driving a U-Haul truck last weekend.
I'm in the process of moving.
So all we had was AM, FM radio.
So I was listening to K-Earth 101, and We Will Rock You came on, and right away came We Are the Champions.
They played it as one song.
joe rogan
Well, they go together, you know, perfectly.
It seems like it's almost, but it is clearly two different jams, right?
It's great.
everlast
It's similar themes, though.
joe rogan
He was a goddamn wizard.
everlast
We will rock you, we are the champions.
joe rogan
That band, they were really sorcerers.
He was amazing.
everlast
Freddie Mercury was wild.
joe rogan
He was amazing.
He was so unusual.
He was strut on stage.
everlast
I mean, it was just a masterpiece of Bohemian Rhapsody alone.
It's just crazy.
joe rogan
I know, right?
When you think of rock albums, and you think of songs, and you think of that one, you're like, what?
everlast
What is that?
I write these little three chord songs with a nice story over it and shit.
And this dude was doing like fucking 16 part harmonies of Bismillah.
No, we will not let you go.
Like wrote like a rock opera like within four or five minutes.
It's fucking bananas how genius that shit is.
joe rogan
And it's great to listen to.
Like it's super entertaining.
It's captivating.
He was a goddamn...
Goddamn hero.
For sure, right?
everlast
Freddy.
I haven't seen the movie.
I haven't either.
I haven't seen the movie, though.
joe rogan
After they stopped having fucking Borat do it, I'm like, I'm out.
everlast
See, because I like to show that guy's on, that Mr. Robot.
joe rogan
I'm sure I'd like him too, but it doesn't matter.
benjamin jaffe
Once you tease me with Ali G, and then you pull him away.
everlast
I don't know.
I mean, that's not why I didn't see it.
I just haven't had the chance.
joe rogan
I heard that Borat wanted to do a lot of crazy drugs, gay sex, chaos.
everlast
Yeah, he probably wanted to have dongs flapping around.
You know what I mean?
He wanted to go the dark side of Freddy's.
joe rogan
He wanted to be buck wild.
I'm sure the guy who did it did a great job.
The problem is whenever someone gets attached to the idea of someone else doing it, and then the new guy comes in, he's forever tainted.
everlast
But if you haven't, and you ever go on TV little show binges, that guy's show, Mr. Robot, it's pretty fucking good.
It's pretty fucking good.
joe rogan
I've heard it's really funny.
everlast
It's fucking bizarre, futuristic hacker weirdness.
It's pretty dope.
joe rogan
Dude, this is the best time ever if you want to just sit and watch TV. Is there a better time that's ever existed?
everlast
No, dude.
Smoke weed.
It's legal.
Watch 42 episodes of a show.
joe rogan
I don't encourage too much of this behavior, but occasionally I think it's important and probably even therapeutical.
But if you could just sit down and watch something on TV, there's more shit to watch today than the human race has ever seen, ever.
That's a fact.
They're making new TV shows every goddamn minute.
They're happening right now.
They're putting them out on Hulu.
They're putting them out on Amazon.
They're putting them out on Netflix.
everlast
They don't even stagger them.
They drop an entire season.
Boom!
It's out.
Watch it.
joe rogan
Deal with it.
Deal with it, bitch.
You watch Stranger Things?
everlast
Yes.
joe rogan
I'm on episode five.
Don't tell me shit.
unidentified
Of what?
everlast
The most recent season?
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Hush.
everlast
Everybody hush.
It's good.
I enjoy it.
I enjoy it.
I can't tell you I enjoy it?
joe rogan
Don't get blasphemous.
everlast
No, I ain't gonna tell you anything else.
joe rogan
A little bit better than good.
everlast
I'll tell you a couple good ones I enjoy.
A couple good ones I enjoy.
You fuck with Ozark.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
Dude, I fucked with Ozark.
everlast
Okay, there we go.
There's Ozark.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
If I had to give up one, it wouldn't be Ozark.
everlast
They canceled it, but the seasons that exist are fucking hilarious.
Have you watched this Santa Clarita Diet?
joe rogan
No.
everlast
It's with Drew Barrymore and the guy from Timothy Oliphant from Deadwood, that guy.
I'm not even going to say anything else, but y'all can come thank me later.
Go check that shit out.
It's like two seasons of it and they cancelled it for some reason.
Hopefully they'll bring it back if enough people like it.
I'm telling you, it's fucking hilarious.
If you like zombie kind of weirdness, but it ain't really scary.
It's fucking hilarious is what it is.
It's craziness.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
Have you ever watched Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt?
everlast
I have not.
joe rogan
Gotta watch that.
everlast
I'll check it out.
joe rogan
That is a goddamn hilarious show.
That's a good show to sit down with your wife.
Because you'll laugh your ass off and she'll love it.
Listen, it's hilarious.
It's about a lady who was in a cult and she got locked up in a basement for like 13 years and then she got out and she doesn't know what the fuck anything is.
But she's hilariously optimistic.
It's really fun.
everlast
My wife got me on this one.
It's not that, but it's like this lady, like chick comic, and I don't know her name, and I don't know the name of the show right now, but it's fucking hilarious, and she's like a Larry David-esque chick.
Like she's Larry David-esque, I should say.
Like the show is like, she's always like the fucking mom who's like fucking doing some crazy shit.
There's like an episode of like where there's a mom amongst the crew that's like done porno, and so all the moms are talking about it, but like the fucking show's hilarious.
joe rogan
What is this show?
everlast
Oh man, I can't remember.
joe rogan
Do you know what that is, Jamie?
everlast
I've got to think of the show.
joe rogan
Who's in it?
Who are the actresses?
everlast
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
I've watched shit with my wife sometimes, and I'm just going to get the name of it real quick while we're here.
joe rogan
Are you talking about The Handmaid's Tale?
everlast
No.
No, it's definitely not that.
It's something like no apologies or something about apologies.
unidentified
Sorry, not sorry.
everlast
Sorry, not sorry.
joe rogan
Thank you.
everlast
Fucking shit is hilarious, dude.
That lady is a fucking hilarious.
Who's that?
I don't know her name.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Andrea Savage.
everlast
There you go.
joe rogan
She sounds savage.
everlast
She's fucking funny, dude.
It is savage.
The show's pretty savage.
But it's like some dirty Larry David kind of vibes.
joe rogan
What kind of a burden do you have with a name like Savage?
Like, you better produce.
You can't run around and be lazy with a name like Savage.
everlast
Yeah, you can't.
You can't.
You gotta bring it.
joe rogan
Bob Savage.
Bob Savage is sitting there smelling his own farts.
What?
unidentified
I just...
joe rogan
I don't know.
Jamie's in a panic.
I googled that.
jamie vernon
I just googled that, sorry not sorry, with Amanda Savage, and nothing came up then.
joe rogan
Oh.
unidentified
I had an article up there.
everlast
That's definitely it, because I've known my...
That's why I was saying apologies or something.
Sorry not sorry.
unidentified
This is the article I had.
joe rogan
There she goes.
everlast
That's her.
joe rogan
Oh, she's fucking hilarious, man.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
jamie vernon
The show's called I'm Sorry.
joe rogan
The article is titled Sorry Not Sorry.
everlast
Yeah, okay, there you go.
I knew it was an apology or something like that.
joe rogan
God, we're stupid.
everlast
It's fucking hilarious.
unidentified
We're done.
joe rogan
We did the least research of any show ever that has this kind of reach.
everlast
But you guys are winging it kind of in a lot of ways, dude.
It's the beauty of the show, though, a little bit.
joe rogan
This thing is 100% winged.
You want some of this?
everlast
I'm sitting on a little bit, but yeah.
joe rogan
Don't be scared, homie.com.
Don't be scared, homie.com.
Shout out to Nate Diaz, victorious.
Shout out to Anthony Pettis, the gladiator.
everlast
It was a good fight.
joe rogan
It was a great fight.
everlast
I totally agree with the outcome.
joe rogan
Yes.
Oh, definitely.
Definitely.
Nate won that fight for sure.
everlast
I was complimented when I walked into Dana's green room and was told I smelled like I just came from Nate Diaz's camp.
Yes, it was amazing.
I love that.
joe rogan
Thank God for that guy.
everlast
The fucks given is like at an all-time low.
joe rogan
All-time low.
Thank God for that guy.
He's so important.
everlast
Just be you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Love that guy.
That's what he's doing.
I mean, he's fighting for the baddest motherfucker in the game belt.
everlast
That was at 170, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, fuck cutting weight.
He doesn't need to cut weight.
But I love when he's talking about fighting for the baddest motherfucker in the game belt.
Yeah.
everlast
So that's the belt he's referring to.
Okay.
Because I was like, this was for a belt?
It was only three rounds.
I was like, wait a minute.
I'm so confused.
joe rogan
I was thinking about...
everlast
I was a little high and drunk myself.
joe rogan
No, I was thinking about trying to get him to explain that to people, but I was like, I'm going to just let him go.
I don't even want to get in the way of this.
everlast
I'm glad I know now what belt he's talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's talked about it multiple times.
everlast
That's a great fight he called out, though.
But he said that.
joe rogan
He said, defend this belt.
And I was like, okay, he's talking about the baddest motherfucker in the game belt.
And I thought he was going to say it, but...
I probably should have asked him what belt it was.
everlast
No, it's more beautiful like that there's like this...
No, it's perfect.
It's like an Easter egg.
joe rogan
What a great name.
The baddest motherfucker in the game, Belt.
We should be so happy that guy's a real thing.
We should be so happy.
everlast
And that fight, it would be amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
That would be incredible.
Masvidal's a straight-up murderer.
He's a straight-up murderer.
So is Nate.
That would be chaos.
That would be chaos.
And those two guys want to do it.
Those are two, I mean, just wild dogs going at it.
Those guys are both, like, to the core.
They're fighters to the core.
There's no quitting.
Either one of those guys.
I mean, that's a wild fight, man.
Especially right now, like financially, that's an amazing fight right now.
People would pay a lot of money to see that fight.
Maz Vidal and Nate Diaz, those are two guys that are like the most exciting and most talked about guys in the sport right now.
If those guys decided to fucking smash horns, whoo!
everlast
It looked like they were more than willing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I hope they make that.
everlast
That would be an amazing fight.
joe rogan
I hope they make that happen.
That would be goddamn bananas.
And maybe one of them will come out to jump around.
everlast
If they pick something shitty enough.
joe rogan
No, they're level.
I think they get to pick their own music.
As long as they don't have, like, Christina Aguilera.
everlast
Yeah, but we're talking about, wait, wait.
But Lyoto Machida.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Like, I want to know the story behind that.
One day I'm going to corner Dana when we're like, you know, when he's not the fucking busiest dude on earth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
And be like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
What happened there?
everlast
What song did he pick?
You were mad.
joe rogan
Which Lyoto fight was that?
everlast
I don't know, man.
I'm sure somebody knows.
joe rogan
But I wonder if he won.
Because that would be interesting to see if he fucked with his vibe.
everlast
I'm not sure.
I think he did.
Because I keep track of shit like that.
Because it's fucking...
I hate it almost when somebody...
Because one of my favorite guys, oh, my God, the beard, super duper friends with Tate.
joe rogan
Keith Jardine?
everlast
Thank you.
The Dean of Mean.
Dean of Mean.
Keith Jardine.
He came out to my version of fucking Folsom Prison.
And I was so jacked about it.
And he lost that fight.
And I felt like it made me feel horrible.
Like, oh, man, my song.
joe rogan
Oh, this is Chris Weidman when he fought Leota Machida.
Oh, that's when it was.
See, he put the kibosh on Lyoto.
everlast
Oh, so, yeah.
See?
See?
Look, man, I didn't ask for that.
I didn't fucking ask for that, dude.
I don't need that pressure.
joe rogan
That wasn't going to save him.
everlast
Don't pick my shit.
joe rogan
A song wasn't going to save him.
everlast
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's one of those weird ones.
It's like, how bad is a song?
You won't let a person pick their own song?
everlast
That's what I want to know!
joe rogan
It's not that much time.
benjamin jaffe
I mean, it's only like the walk to the Oxagon is not a full song.
joe rogan
It's not like three minutes.
everlast
But all those Brazilian guys always come out to the...
You know what I mean?
Like fucking...
They come out to the fucking wildest music, some of those dudes.
unidentified
The axe murderer used to come out to some real questionable fucking, like, Dutch disco house.
He did it!
He did!
joe rogan
He did!
He came out to, like, raw techno.
everlast
You crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Yeah, that's right.
Dutch disco house.
everlast
Swedish house mafia.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
You're so right.
everlast
Crazy.
joe rogan
That's exactly what he's coming out to.
everlast
Like, overtly, like, over the top, too.
joe rogan
Sandstorm.
unidentified
Number one worst walk-out song.
everlast
I said number one.
Worst.
joe rogan
My favorite was when Randy Couture came out to Ted Nugent's Stranglehold.
I was like, if there is ever a song that's like, that seems like a fight, that's a fight playing song.
You know, like, you're about to have a fight, that's the song you want playing.
Stranglehold.
Michael Chiesa uses that too.
A couple guys use Stranglehold now.
That's a song, like, Stranglehold.
And it's one of those songs.
unidentified
Anything by ACDC. Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Thunderstruck.
everlast
Come out to a fight.
Cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
Just that.
Angus' tone on the guitar.
It's over.
You got anger.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Right?
everlast
You got some nice...
unidentified
I'm on the highway to hell!
joe rogan
Rich Franklin used to come out to Thunderstruck when he was the middleweight champion.
unidentified
Destroys!
*Cough* *Cough* *Cough* Is that how the song came up too?
joe rogan
I know he definitely came out to an ACDC song.
everlast
I think it is.
It feels like right.
joe rogan
Questioning.
everlast
That was big like right then, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ACDC is like one of those bands where you hear like three or four chords.
You're like, ACDC. Like instantly.
Like for sure.
everlast
Angus Young, again, his guitar tone.
jamie vernon
The song was called For Those About to Rock.
everlast
Oh, he came out to For Those About to Rock.
joe rogan
But didn't he come out to Thunderstruck, too?
I think when he fought Anderson Silva, he came out to Thunderstruck.
jamie vernon
Which fight was that?
joe rogan
Who was he fighting?
I think for sure he came out to Thunderstruck.
everlast
Google is your friend.
joe rogan
He was an ACDC dude.
Oh, when he fought Forrest Griffin.
He was an ACDC dude.
You think about walkout music.
It's big, man.
You can't deny someone their walkout music.
everlast
Was it Chuck Liddell he beat with a broken arm?
Chuck kicked him in the arm and broke it.
I feel like I was there, but I might have just been seeing it on TV. It depends on where it was.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Chuck broke his arm in the first round, and then he clipped him with a punch with his other hand.
He even punched him with his broken arm.
everlast
That was crazy.
jamie vernon
Same song out of UFC 72. Okay.
joe rogan
Maybe that was his song.
For those about to rock?
Great song either way.
everlast
When everybody hit me, apparently when Stipe knocked out DC, there was an angle where I was like, you saw me.
And then recently I saw, did you ever see the meme with Khabib where he's staring at Conor after knocking out fucking, I think it's Jose?
And it's me.
I'm talking to fucking Khabib, but he's just staring like this.
Like, there's a meme that just, like, focuses in on him, like, it's fucking crazy.
So, like, it got me thinking, like, I wonder how, like I said, I've been to so many of these fucking fights that I don't even, you know, I was, like, trying to remember, and it's like, I can't even remember.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've been coming to them for almost as long as I've been working for the UFC. Yeah, basically.
Yeah, close to it.
everlast
Not as, but close.
joe rogan
In the neighborhood.
everlast
You know what I mean?
A couple years behind.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
You were the first guy I ever smoked pot indoors with in Vegas.
I was like, we can just smoke pot here?
I was like a little kid.
everlast
I think what I say, what are they going to do?
joe rogan
I go, where are you going to go?
And he's like, go!
unidentified
And he just sparked the joint.
joe rogan
We're in the middle of the club, and I was like, okay.
everlast
Yeah, right there, dude.
But like somebody had made a meme that said something about Khabib and his concentration and I started focusing in on him like this.
joe rogan
It was hilarious.
Make that bigger.
Does it make it bigger?
Is it possible to make it bigger?
everlast
Let me tell you something.
joe rogan
Listen, look at Khabib's face.
Is there a harder man that's ever lived?
everlast
Let me tell you though, he came out like two fights before that fight.
And he was the nicest guy to everybody that came up to him.
joe rogan
Oh, he's nice.
everlast
Everybody came up to him, he engaged with him, talked to him.
Soon as the Conor fight was about to happen, that was it.
For the whole, he just was watching Connor the whole time.
And like, we were talking, like in the whole time, like I said, we were engaging.
What I'm saying to him right there is like, oh shit, y'all probably fighting next kind of thing.
Because he was like, I want to fucking fight that guy.
And they got into it backstage at that shit.
But it just made me laugh, and it made me start thinking, like, I wonder how much shit I'm, like, in the background of.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Oh, a ton of them.
One of the best ones ever is Ari and Duncan kissing.
Remember they planned it?
They planned it, and so these guys, the camera passed in front of them, and they grabbed each other and started making out just so they could be on camera.
Watch this.
Look it.
Watch this.
Right here, the camera pans to them.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
And Dana texted me afterwards.
Did your friends fucking make out on paper here?
unidentified
Oh, man.
everlast
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
What's up?
What's up, Jimmy?
unidentified
I thought I was with them at that fight.
joe rogan
Were you?
unidentified
They might have been on substance, psychedelic.
joe rogan
Oh, they probably were.
Yeah, they probably were.
That was common practice.
Common practice in the day.
Want to bang one more up?
everlast
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
unidentified
Let's do smoking and drinking.
everlast
That seems appropriate.
joe rogan
Yes.
everlast
Let me check.
unidentified
All right.
everlast
DJ Melody, and let's one more, give a little shout out.
Him and the Beat Junkies have a school in Glendale, California.
It's called Beat Junkies Institute of Sound.
They teach kids, youngsters, and grown-ups how to DJ properly, like real DJs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Beautiful.
everlast
Beat Junkies.
That's real, by the way.
joe rogan
This is real.
He's got people just listening.
These are actual turntables.
This isn't some bullshit.
This is like...
Can you back me up on this?
This is real shit.
This is Russell Peters approved, right?
He's a real DJ.
everlast
I'm on my bullshit bar stool Pimpin' on Southern Fine Chicken On whiskey so dog is steak
And she told me last summer That she lost her only lover Cause he got himself locked away He was cookin' Melchipin' She was on post-trippin' Just a melon canis apple pie Now she's lookin' for a lover Cause she won't be a mother Tryna show me that she's ride or die She looks a little bit weathered But she's down for whatever And she probably knows her trick on two Says she got a few friends If you got a couple in Boy, they'll probably let you fuck them too
I'm on my bullshit, smoking and drinking, just wasting my time.
No worrying, no thinking, more women, more wine.
I'm on my bullshit, smoking and drinking, to wasting my time.
No worrying, no thinking, more women, more wine.
I'm on my bullshit, drinking with some trouble, just all the C-double, and put me in a city jail.
Sometimes you make problems and always solve them and always walk around with beer.
Now I lost a few nights and I lost a couple fights blacked out on whiskey, bitch.
I sold a whole lot of ticks, fucked a bunch of hot chicks in a couple that'll make you cringe.
I got to keep it 100, I said it for done it, don't give a fuck about how you feel.
All you cheaters and liars, we achieve and we fight us off about how you keep it real.
I'm on my bullshit, smoking and drinking, you're wasting my time.
No worrying, no thinking, more with and more wild.
I'm on my bullshit, smoking and drinking, you're wasting my time.
No worrying, no thinking, more with and more wild.
unidentified
No worrying, no thinking, more with and more wild.
everlast
want my bullshit.
Low temp dabbing.
Pistol grip grabbing.
I'm a chrome-plated man to steal.
Civilly unrated.
Kick me, I'm hated.
Cause I like to tell it how I feel.
Push, gun, shrug.
Got a whole lot of love for the people.
I got a lot of friends and I kept a few kids This whole time I've been fuckin' around I'm on my bullshit Smokin' and drinkin' You're wasting my time No happy and no thinkin' I'm aware that my wife I'm on my bullshit Smokin' and drinkin' You're wasting my time I
I'm on my bullshit.
unidentified
Woo!
Dude.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
joe rogan
That's a great fucking song, man.
everlast
Thank you, sir.
Whitey Ford's House of Pain is the latest album.
Let me do all the things my manager will slap me later for if I don't.
OG Everlast, you can find me on Instagram.
That's the only one I really do, but I'm on the Facebook and all that with all the tours and all that.
But if you want to see what I talk about or what I do, it's OG Everlast on Instagram.
I got Joe started on Instagram, by the way.
joe rogan
That's 100% true.
everlast
And he's kicking my ass all over.
He's got like 18 million followers.
I got like 98,000.
joe rogan
We'll get you more today.
everlast
I always do.
Your people always come and are always beautiful folks.
I listen to you.
joe rogan
The reason why I'm on Instagram is 100% because of you.
everlast
But the folks that always come after a podcast are always like...
joe rogan
That's awesome to hear.
I think we tapped into a river of cool people.
Think they're out there.
I think you put it out there and people respond in turn and they realize that a lot of a lot of the shittiest behavior that we all exhibit is because we're around shitty behavior and If we make an agreement to be nice to each other, we can change everything.
everlast
I'm working on it.
joe rogan
We are.
everlast
I'm a dick.
joe rogan
All of us are.
unidentified
You're not a dick, man.
joe rogan
You're a man, and you're Irish.
everlast
I'm a dick.
You're a guy, man.
I'm looking for a quick excuse to be one if you want to be an ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, baby, but in all the years that I've known you, you're a very introspective guy, man.
You look at yourself, you know?
When people make mistakes, they look at themselves.
You're a guy who looks at everything, man.
You look at yourself.
You look at other people.
You're an honest dude.
everlast
It's nice to be afforded the time and luxuries to do such things, too.
Let's acknowledge that some people, hey, man, motherfuckers, some people can barely look up from the grind, man.
It's a blessing to be able to have those moments of, hey, whatever it is, Joe Rogan in the fucking brush stalking an elk.
That's where he gets his moment.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Or me driving Pacific Coast Highway, listening to a beat, trying to come with an idea.
That's a luxury.
Even though it's our work, you might be thinking of a joke out there while you're fucking...
joe rogan
We're super lucky, for sure.
That's so important to acknowledge for everybody.
We didn't used to be, and that's the grind.
We're all okay.
We just gotta figure our way through our own individual maze.
The problem is in comparison, right?
That's a big part of the problem.
everlast
I'm totally paraphrasing, but there's definitely a famous phrase where it's like, comparison is the death of joy.
And I think we've even talked about it.
I'm having deja vu, so it might have been on here that we talked about that.
joe rogan
I'm a repetitive fuck.
And I say a lot of the same shit over and over again.
That's a Thomas Jefferson quote, correct?
Comparison is the thief of joy.
everlast
Thief of joy.
I think we have talked about it.
It's one of my favorites.
My deja vu is in high gear right now.
joe rogan
It's one of my favorite quotes, because it just makes you realize, like, this is something you can't even control.
Like, you're concentrating on shit you can't control.
everlast
Also, I feel like it's like, there's this...
Everybody's not entitled to the luxury that we're talking about.
So it's like, you got to be thankful for it on an extra high level because it seems like we're in this twisted thought age where it's like everybody thinks they deserve that.
And I don't even feel like I deserve it.
I'm lucky.
I'm a fortunate fucking man.
You know what I mean?
I sing songs.
I always compare it to like this.
Like, you know, when people talk about old music, whatever, whatever.
I'm like, whatever happens, if the lights go out and all the power goes out, I can go from fucking little fucking prefecture to prefecture and play a little song for you and get a meal for me and my family.
That's how I equate it.
Like, it's a trade.
You know what I mean?
And it's an imbalanced society that has...
I mean, I've met teachers that I feel like should be making way more fucking money than me, man.
Like, on real levels that I've seen do things for kids on...
Like, you know, my school has a mixture.
Like, you know, kids that go there because they live there.
And then there's a lot of people trying to go to the school because it's a very nice school.
But, you know...
So, there's imbalances and I've seen teachers like come out their own pockets and do things for, you know, people that were like, wow, man, that's, you know what I mean?
I like to think I do nice things and I think I do, but I'm saying it's like when I see it on a level where it's like grassroots, ground level, it's impactful to me, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's...
You know, when you think about teachers, that's the one.
That's the heartstring puller.
You know, like, how much do teachers make?
You hear about...
everlast
They should be rock stars.
joe rogan
How do you...
unidentified
You're taking care of our babies.
joe rogan
You're teaching our babies.
And you hear about the bad ones.
You hear about the mean teachers that fuck with a kid's head.
They don't realize it.
They don't realize what they're doing to the kid.
unidentified
Like, ugh.
joe rogan
Some people are just angry.
They're just angry and mean.
It comes out when they're teaching.
And if your teacher gets stuck, or your kid, rather, if your kid gets stuck with one of those teachers, that can have a devastating impact on the kid's life.
It sucks.
everlast
We're experiencing something like that, but not on a very minor level of the way the school...
We just found out yesterday what teachers our kids have.
You know what I mean?
It's like...
There's the whole cultural parent circle of knowing which teachers you want and which ones you don't.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
everlast
So it's like, I'm not going to go into whether we got what we wanted or not, but it's like the fucking drama behind it.
It's hilarity to me.
It's such a like, whoa, is there abuse going on or what?
One teacher's a little more strict than the other.
In my day, my parents would have said, like, that's the teacher we want.
Nowadays, it's almost like the opposite.
Yeah.
In the old days, my mom would have been like, that's the stricter teacher?
Yeah, put him in that class.
Put him in that class.
Because that's the one that's not going to take any shit, and that's the one that's going to make sure he knows people aren't going to take shit from him in life.
You know what I mean?
I understand that mentality.
Nowadays, it's almost the flip.
unidentified
Like, oh, that teacher's like, she's just so abrasive.
joe rogan
Too demanding.
everlast
It's like, well, what does she do?
Well, she raised her voice to a kid that was, what was the kid doing?
He was fucking losing his mind in class.
So the fucking teacher raised their voice or something, you know?
I'm just giving a general example here, but it's hilarious.
joe rogan
When I was in Florida, we got paddled.
We got paddled at school.
I got in a fight with a kid named Preston Banks.
We duked it out.
You got paddled.
I was like, fuck.
I lived there from 11 to 13, so somewhere in that range.
They fucking whacked me in the ass with a paddle.
Where was this?
Florida.
Florida.
Yeah.
Yeah, Florida, they used to be allowed to paddle you.
This dude had a paddle, like an actual wooden paddle.
And me and this kid got...
This is what I remember thinking.
Even though I was probably, like, 11 or 12 or whatever I was, when I got in a fight with this kid, I realized this kid had been, like, badly burned when he was young.
And we were, you know, we were in school together, and he was, like, missing part of his ear.
And his neck was all fucked up, and I was thinking, like, wow, this guy, like, he's not doing so well.
Like, this is...
It made me realize, like, we got into this little scrap over nothing because it just...
He wasn't doing so well.
And I didn't realize that until I was in the principal's office with him in the fight.
Like, we couldn't fight in front of the principal.
That was the authority figure.
We were both, like, subdued.
But I was realizing when I was around this guy, I'm like, this isn't a mean guy.
He's a sad guy.
Like, he's a guy that just didn't get any love, and he feels like he got ripped off by life because he got burned when he was a little kid.
everlast
For sure.
joe rogan
And it made me think.
Like, it changed the way I looked at people.
Like, that one little argument and fight with one kid and then getting paddled.
Getting paddle just cemented it.
Like, ow!
everlast
Put the stamp on it.
joe rogan
I don't agree with it.
You know, and the guy didn't hurt me.
He didn't try to hurt me.
He didn't try to hurt the other dude either.
But he definitely paddled us.
It used to be a legal thing.
everlast
Put a sting on it, man.
You know what I mean?
That's what we grew up with.
I got spanked.
joe rogan
But is that good...
everlast
I think there's appropriate time and place.
I really do.
joe rogan
For girls?
everlast
I don't know about that.
That's different because I have two girls and I've never spanked my kids.
joe rogan
I don't think I'd spank my son.
everlast
I've threatened to.
unidentified
I don't think I'd spank my son.
everlast
I've threatened to, but I've never had to actually commit and do it.
So I don't know.
Yeah, no.
It seems like it might not be the right.
And even with a boy, I'm talking about that.
Physical justice...
For me, it would be a rare thing.
Let me give you an example of a time in my life when I definitely deserved physical justice and got it.
My father, you know, I was using guns when I was very young.
We'd go out and shoot and, like, not hunt necessarily, but he'd take us out and shoot in the mountains, out in the Mangelis Forest back in the day.
And, like, fucking, I had very good...
Gun education and understanding of guns.
And one time when they were away, I fucked around with his pump shotgun and accidentally loaded it and banged and shot into the wall.
This was an apartment too.
This wasn't a house.
This was in an apartment building.
Now, it wasn't a wall connecting to another apartment, but the possibilities, you know what I mean?
When they came home a few hours later, that apartment outside was surrounded by police, like, with guns.
Like, they didn't know what happened.
The neighbors all called cops.
They heard a shotgun.
So, after they all settled it down, I got my ass fucking kicked that night by my father.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, some people nowadays would say, that's fucking...
Rough.
But no, I fucking could have fucking killed a human being easily.
You need to sometimes know like, okay, this is because what you just did could have wound you up in fucking the penitentiary for the rest of your life.
So an ass-kicking doesn't seem as extreme as you think when you put it in the balance of that.
So when you're getting to like a level of that, I think...
Especially for a boy.
If a girl was going that wild, I would encourage the mom to throw the beating.
A dad can't throw that beating.
It'd be a little rough.
But I think there's a time and a place where, hey, if you're going to stop, you've got to let them know.
This will be the rest of your life if you keep down this path.
It's got to be that extreme to me for it to be a beating nowadays.
When I was young, a beating could come from talking back.
joe rogan
Right.
At least a smack in the face.
everlast
Yeah, well that's, you know, a shoe.
If it was mom, after like 13, mom stopped using the hands because, you know, I had outgrown her.
My mom was little.
My mom was a little woman, like 4 foot 11, 5 foot tops.
Oh yeah so after a while it was like it went from the hands to like stirring spoons and shit and then once those started breaking it became shoes and like you know whatever else broomstick.
And then it became like wait till your fucking father gets home.
joe rogan
My mom might have like gently smacked me upside the head gently like never like a real like wound.
everlast
No my mom was a Brooklyn lady.
joe rogan
She might have been like what are you doing stupid?
everlast
My mom's wasn't playing.
joe rogan
I never got clipped.
I never got dropped.
everlast
No, mom's tried to fucking...
joe rogan
You never dropped me, ma.
everlast
I remember being like 9 or 10 and mom's chasing me down the block.
unidentified
No!
everlast
Catching me.
joe rogan
No!
everlast
And fucking tackling me, dude.
Like dead ass.
joe rogan
You get beat up in front of you.
everlast
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's the worst.
It has to be the worst.
everlast
It happened.
joe rogan
My mom was not chasing me.
She'd be like, you're coming home eventually, dummy.
everlast
My mom wasn't, I mean, she wasn't having that.
Oh, word?
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
My mom would have never chased me.
unidentified
She would be like, I'm not playing your games.
everlast
She was little, but she was fast.
joe rogan
She was fast.
unidentified
That's crazy that she caught you, beat your ass in front of your friends.
joe rogan
It's so rough.
When you're a young boy and you're trying to be cool, it's like the most embarrassing.
Like any day, you could just trip on your own dick and fall face into a fence like a fucking asshole.
You're so goofy.
everlast
I think it actually made some of my friends at the time understand me a little bit differently, dude.
Like, oh, wow, dude.
unidentified
All right.
everlast
Yeah, for sure.
We get you now.
We understand kind of your whole thing.
Like, you're Steve.
Like, you guys are nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
When you think of yourself as a musician and an artist, you're so fortunate.
This is going to sound weird, but you're so fortunate to come from a chaotic upbringing.
I feel like everyone who I know that comes from some sort of a chaotic upbringing has a different kind of horsepower to their shit.
All my favorite people that I like to listen to and watch, they all had some real fucked up moments and struggles and chaos and madness.
You don't get what you put out without that.
That's like the root of it all.
That's the seed that causes it all to grow.
everlast
I mean, it's similar to a joke.
A song, you're trying to find...
It depends on what angle you take from it.
I like to call it the highest common denominator that I'm trying to find.
It's like the highest level thing we can all connect on.
You know what I mean?
Not the basest, most lowest level or common denominator.
I'm trying to find what kind of elevated level can I speak to you on?
Even if it's about fuckery, can I raise the level of speaking about it and telling a tale about it without it being, again, the most base and easiest, lowest hanging fruit?
That's the same thing, I think, with a joke.
You're trying to find there's no real new Like, you're just finding new angles on funny shit.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
One time that things are new is when things are newly invented or when they're new events.
Like, it has to be like a significant event or a new invention.
Then things open up new pathways.
Other than that, like, if you're talking about relationships, you're doing a variation of a take on it that everybody's had who's had a long life and been in relationships.
Especially Larry King, holla at your boy!
Going on number eight.
Was that number seven that he just left?
Eighth.
unidentified
Eighth divorce, seventh wife.
I think he remarried one of them.
joe rogan
Damn.
Like that.
You know?
everlast
Larry King's still alive?
joe rogan
You didn't know?
Oh, Roy Wood.
Roy Wood.
Roy and I were looking at pictures of Larry King.
everlast
I really didn't impress that he's still alive.
joe rogan
He's getting divorced at 85. Fucking more power to him.
everlast
Get busy.
If you got the money to get divorced at 85, go for it.
joe rogan
They're shooting him up with steroids and cocaine and they're just gonna start...
everlast
In Viagra?
joe rogan
Just having gals come over to the place.
everlast
He's over at Arts Deli just holding court.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if over the last year of his life he just banks an unprecedented volume of internet porn and just releases it all in one blast.
Larry King fucks.
He just called it...
everlast
.com.
unidentified
King Sex Tapes?
joe rogan
Yes.
King Sex Tapes.
Yeah.
King, yeah, just banging it out.
unidentified
And just, yeah.
joe rogan
That's how he's going to do it.
unidentified
Get a lot of Patreon.
joe rogan
You get so much money.
If you really just want money, now's the time to act.
everlast
That's wild.
joe rogan
Poor Larry.
He doesn't seem like he has good posture.
Like, that's not good.
When you're an older fella and you like that good culture...
everlast
Does he have the curve?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got that curve.
everlast
The curve.
joe rogan
He was a very nice guy.
I was on his show twice.
I was on his show twice for Fear Factor.
He's always very nice.
Very friendly guy, you know?
everlast
You kind of got to be when you do that for a living and every night you're talking to a person...
joe rogan
You got to be good at that shit.
everlast
You can't be like me.
I'd be like, fuck...
unidentified
Didn't he go to jail?
joe rogan
Isn't there a Larry King?
We need to get a Larry King mugshot.
Yeah.
Get that Larry King mugshot.
Order that shit up.
Go to...
Take the...
Find the photo of Larry King mugshot.
How do we not have Larry King?
We just decided to get Pablo Escobar.
everlast
Hey, dude, you need to get the mugshot of the dude who's still on CNN who got found out in Central Park in New York with meth and a makeshift noose around his dick.
His name was...
unidentified
Oh, what the fuck?
everlast
What's his name?
unidentified
How do we not have that?
everlast
The English dude with the glasses.
joe rogan
The English dude with the glasses.
everlast
CNN. CNN? Richard...
unidentified
Richard.
everlast
Come on, dude.
You're helping.
Come on.
joe rogan
Come on, dude.
He's ordering up a large print of...
unidentified
Richard.
Richard.
everlast
Oh, man.
You know his face.
As soon as you see his face, you're going to be like, oh, that guy!
unidentified
Richard Quest.
everlast
Richard Quest.
joe rogan
Who's Richard Quest?
everlast
He's the guy I'm talking about.
joe rogan
I don't know who he is.
everlast
Oh, dude, if you see his face, you'll be like, oh yeah, he's like the English guy on CNN. He got caught in Central Park with meth and some sort of noose or something around his dick, as far as I remember reading.
We were clowning it for a while.
joe rogan
If you're a single gay guy, isn't that what you're supposed to do?
everlast
I don't know.
joe rogan
You're supposed to have meth around your dick.
That's like part of the thing.
everlast
Is this not on the internet?
Am I making this up?
joe rogan
No, there's no.
jamie vernon
I was looking for a mugshot.
There's no mugshot, but here's an explanation from Huffington Post.
joe rogan
Oh, there's an explanation?
everlast
Okay, there's an explanation.
I'm not making this up, right?
unidentified
This wasn't like a drug-induced hallucination or something, right?
joe rogan
Oh my god, how hilarious is the way they put this?
CNN personality Richard Quest was busted in Central Park early yesterday with some drugs in his pocket and a rope around his neck that was tied to his genitals, no big deal, and a sex toy in his boot.
Law enforcement officials and sources said, Quest was initially busted for loitering.
It really wasn't about that.
Aside from the oddly configured rope, the search also turned up a sex toy inside of his boot.
That means his asshole.
And a small bag of methamphetamine in his left jacket pocket.
It wasn't immediately clear what the rope was for.
everlast
That's the mug shot you needed.
But show him a picture so he'll know who I'm talking about.
Richard Quest.
joe rogan
I'm going to talk about that on stage from now on.
Send me that.
everlast
That guy, dude!
You don't know that guy?
unidentified
He's all over the fucking CNN. I do not know that guy.
joe rogan
Can you send me that article that we just sent into my Evernote?
everlast
Oh, I hope it provides you something beautiful.
joe rogan
There's something there.
everlast
There's something there.
I hope it provides you something beautiful.
joe rogan
This is the best part about the article.
It was not clear.
It was not immediately clear what the rope was for.
And I'm like, let me help.
Let me help you out.
benjamin jaffe
Was it tight around his neck and his dick?
unidentified
Well, I'm no fucking Columbo, but I see a connection!
joe rogan
The police noticed Mr. Quest at 64th Street and West Drive at 3.40am, the official said.
As he was being escorted out, he volunteered, in quotes, I have meth in my pocket.
According to an official briefed on the case, the police searched him and recovered a small amount of methamphetamine in a Ziploc bag and a rope around his dick and his neck.
everlast
And his neck between his boot.
joe rogan
More importantly, there's a lot of dudes who do meth.
everlast
And you know what they do?
joe rogan
They keep it together!
And they stay on the farm!
unidentified
I wonder what kind of boots he had on.
everlast
There's a snake in my boot!
No, in his boot.
joe rogan
That means in his asshole.
Is this an English paper?
everlast
No, this is New York.
It was Central Park.
joe rogan
I think they mean in his asshole.
unidentified
I think they mean in his asshole.
everlast
In his ass?
unidentified
Wow.
everlast
That's a whole new dimension.
joe rogan
That's your trunk, bro.
They wouldn't call it his boot.
everlast
No, in England, but it's like, isn't this the New York Times?
joe rogan
Yes, they're using proper British English.
unidentified
That's America.
joe rogan
It's the New York Times!
unidentified
We call boots a boot in America.
everlast
Let's go with the better angle on it that day was in his ass.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, that's funny.
everlast
That's the better.
joe rogan
New York Post, not the New York Times.
It was in his asshole.
There you go.
everlast
That's why they said his boot.
His boot.
joe rogan
His boot is proper British.
That is factual.
everlast
That is factual.
joe rogan
Clarkson and fucking Richard Hammonds and James May, they refer to the trunk as the boot.
everlast
Yeah, it's the boot.
joe rogan
Yes.
It's in his asshole.
Wow.
The guy had a sex toy in his asshole.
Hey, no judgment.
everlast
Brought a whole new fucking dimension to that.
joe rogan
No judgment.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's okay.
It's fine.
everlast
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
Even if he didn't get caught...
With that and his asshole.
He's still doing meth and talking to cops.
everlast
With a rope around his dick and neck.
joe rogan
Yeah, that part too.
I was going to get to that.
As if it was so crazy if he had a fucking rubber dick in his ass.
Like, wait, what?
everlast
I'm finding that shit.
I'll get you that mugshot.
I'm finding it.
joe rogan
Who doesn't like a little meth every now and then?
Rope around his dick and balls, whatever, whatever.
unidentified
He got dismissed.
jamie vernon
All charges were dismissed.
joe rogan
Thank God for America.
everlast
White privilege.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Imagine if you're a dude as black as Wesley Snipes with dreadlocks.
They catch you with a rope around your dick and neck with a back of your pocket, bro.
You're gonna die in jail.
everlast
Okay, yeah.
joe rogan
You're gonna die in that jail.
everlast
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
100%.
everlast
I think so.
unidentified
100. 100. Dismissed?
everlast
You had meth!
unidentified
Meth!
everlast
And a rope!
Connecting your neck and cock.
joe rogan
And probably a sex toy in your ass.
unidentified
The UK version says it's in his shoe.
everlast
At the very least, I was going to say, in his shoe, which is weird enough.
It might even be weirder.
joe rogan
But let's not jump to conclusions.
That might just be a confusing interpretation of the American version of boot.
Maybe they think shoe means ass.
It was with another man.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Nobody's got a fucking rubber dick in their boot.
That's outrageous.
That would make your boot all fucking uncomfortable.
Why wouldn't you just put it in your pocket?
It's in his ass, bro.
Let's just run with that.
everlast
Because he had meth in his pocket.
unidentified
That's why.
joe rogan
No more Google search.
Shut off all the computers.
Spread misinformation.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm sure it was just an issue.
Whatever, whatever.
everlast
And you don't ever volunteer that you have drugs.
Let them find the drugs.
joe rogan
Yeah, let them find the drugs.
Unless you want to fuck the cops.
everlast
I have a quick good one on that level.
On that level, first time I went to Japan, With House of Pain.
joe rogan
What happened?
everlast
We were on, you know, it was one of them things where we were touring from tour to tour to tour.
I would go home and literally take one set of clothes out of a bag, throw it in another bag, and leave.
So we got to Japan.
And on this particular trip, I brought my girlfriend at the time, and I think Danny did, and Lethal brought his own homie or whatever, but we brought a bunch of guests.
And everybody gets through customs.
And as I'm getting through customs, the guy reaches into this one jacket I have, and he pulls his hand out, and there's this little nugget of Bud.
unidentified
Oh!
everlast
And he's like, what is that?
And I was like, well, can you speak English?
Because he said it in Japanese.
So I said, okay, what is that?
I was like, my brain just was like, well, fuck, man.
It looks like weed.
I said, it looks like weed.
You know, I just fucking owned it.
They went and got this little tester, put some shit in, so if it turns blue, it's weed.
I was like, it's weed.
Let's just fucking save a little trouble.
It's weed.
Meanwhile, everybody else had gotten through.
They brought everybody else back in.
Right?
Fucking gave them the fucking finger.
Like, my lady, everything at the time.
Everybody got the strip search.
They never strip searched me.
They searched everything I had.
All my bags, everything, right?
They tested one nugget of weed, whatever.
I end up, after several hours, the record label paid off whatever they had to pay off.
We got into the country and were able to do our tour.
Now the point of the story is everybody's fucking hating my guts.
The whole fucking bunch of them.
We get to the hotel.
I'm unpacking my bag, trying to figure out how the whole fucking thing happened.
I'm looking at the jacket.
And I reach into the pocket.
There's nothing in there.
I was like, fuck, that's crazy.
I reach into the other pocket of the jacket.
I pull out a fucking ounce of fucking weed.
They never looked in the other pocket of the jacket.
unidentified
A whole ounce?
everlast
A fucking ounce of weed, I shit you not.
joe rogan
So you know what you were without even knowing you were doing it?
You were like sending a small mule to get busted so that the big ones can sneak around the side.
everlast
I must have been rolling a joint at the last tour and had a nug left over and just throwing it in the pocket and not thinking about it on one side.
joe rogan
The cartel does that.
everlast
But if they would have found that other one first, I'd be in jail in motherfucking Japan for a long time.
joe rogan
Ever and ever.
everlast
But I got in, I called the whole, I called everybody that smoked in the crew down to the room after that, and I was like, yo, check it out, man.
I really didn't mean this to happen, but I probably had more good-ass fucking weed in Japan than anybody at the time.
joe rogan
You know what's incredible?
everlast
Because all they had was hash and shit like that.
joe rogan
Stop and think of that moment.
That moment, if they didn't go in that one pocket and they went in the other pocket first, and they found that giant bag of weed, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
everlast
Nope.
joe rogan
We probably wouldn't.
everlast
Nope.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
That's a lot of weed.
Who knows, though?
everlast
In Japan, it would have been...
It took a lot of money to get me out of that, regardless.
unidentified
Yeah.
everlast
A lot.
Instead of...
I think it cost them like a thousand bucks, which was like 10,000 or something yen, or 100,000 yen.
joe rogan
Is this pre or post, put your lights on?
everlast
No, this was House Payne.
This was like when the only story like it was like Paul McCartney is banned for life because he got caught with some weed.
joe rogan
For life?
everlast
I don't know if it still exists, but there was a point where he was banned for life because he got caught with weed over there.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Well, it used to be in Nevada, you get sent to jail for life if you had weed.
And now it's legal there.
There's a bunch of dudes looking out those barred windows.
everlast
Yeah, that's just gotta, something's gotta be done about that.
That ain't working.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the problem.
That's the number one problem.
It's the number one problem with laws against things like weed.
As long as you can buy some whiskey...
everlast
It's part of the number one problem.
A lot of it, too, is a lot of these prisons are privatized and they don't want to let a lot of these guys go, man.
A lot of these guys get money for the amount of fucking people in their prisons.
joe rogan
I got a solution.
Those private prison dudes should start selling weed.
Right?
Why not?
That's a cleaner way to live your life, man.
Don't be a goddamn slave owner.
You guys are slave owners.
everlast
There's this whole urban legend that is very believable about this letter that went around like a bunch of people in the hip-hop music industry.
I don't know.
Maybe it was within the last decade.
Where they described, like, this guy claimed to be a member of the elite class of, like, executives of the music business in the mid-90s and whatnot.
And there was a time when the private prison industry kind of came and got involved and got a lot of these people to invest and then kind of helped direct, like, things like rap music.
And if you remember, there used to be, like, public—I don't know how big a fan of music you were at the time— I think?
And that disappeared.
And this letter that went around was kind of claiming this guy was part of this thing and he left the meeting when these guys...
It was like a whole conspiracy thing.
But it's totally believable that these guys would direct a music and a fucking media in a certain direction to encourage fucking basically a cycle of fucking prison.
Because if you look at rap music, if you look at rap music and what happened from the 90s till now, there is no conscious music anymore.
There's none.
Some people will tell you it's fucking God's honest truth.
Some will tell you it's the wildest speculation in the world.
But you can dig it up easily.
joe rogan
Kanye has some conscious music.
everlast
For sure.
But like what?
Like Jesus Walks?
That was written by a guy named Rhymefest, I think is his name.
I think.
The guy from Chicago.
One of his partners from Chicago wrote that song.
You know what I mean?
What you gotta remember, these guys are like, Kanye's a producer.
And I'm not saying he doesn't write, but what I'm saying is a lot of, you know, he's also like, he will take a song and make the song.
Because he's a producer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Conscious.
everlast
A lot of people do.
I'm not just saying Kanye is a fraud or anything.
I'm just saying, as a producer, Drake doesn't write all his records.
There's a different era of rap and shit like that going on from when I was young.
When I was young, it was pretty much 90% if you couldn't call yourself an emcee or a rapper if you didn't write your own shit.
There were cats that didn't do it.
It's always been there.
There's always been the ghost writing scene.
But if you wanted to walk in a room and hold down any kind of respect with people, they had to know you wrote your rhymes.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's the same in comedy.
everlast
Yeah.
So it's like, you know, and it's not saying like, you're not a fraud.
You're just a different kind of entertainer.
You know what I mean?
As far as I'm concerned, I don't shit on it.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of Drake records I like.
There's a lot of other shit I like.
You know what I mean?
I know those guys didn't write those records because I can look at the writer's credit and see 20 writer's credits on it.
But I come from the era of like, you know, you got to write your shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think some people feel the value of collaboration, which is a legitimate thing.
And if your ego is good enough where you can work with, like Paul Mooney worked with Pryor.
Pryor is the greatest of all time.
In my opinion.
And he worked with Mooney.
Mooney helped him a lot.
And Richard Jenny worked with Chris Rock and others as well.
It's not like some of the greatest of all time.
I've had people that work with him.
everlast
But Paul Mooney is God.
He's the greatest.
He's up there.
joe rogan
He's one of my most important influencers.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
When I was at the Comedy Store.
Because he was the first guy that I felt like was a real...
I was scared of him, man.
Because I knew he worked for Pryor.
I knew he was like, he's connected to royalty.
And he'd be around the comedy store and I'd just be...
everlast
It's still sharp as a knife, man.
It's still right there.
joe rogan
This is when I was in my 20s.
And he laughed one time.
I was on stage in front of like 10 people and I was doing my act.
And I heard it in the back of the room.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
And then he came up to me afterwards and he said, you're a funny motherfucker.
He goes, you did that shit like it was a sold out room.
He goes, you're a real comic.
And I was like, wow.
Like Paul Moon, he said that to me.
Because I remember he was connected.
He was connected to the man.
He was connected to Pryor.
everlast
He was made.
joe rogan
Like all those, the contribution.
I mean, I guess maybe it's different in hip-hop, but in stand-up it's similar.
There's guys like Bill Burr who writes everything he says.
Everything he says is coming from a Bill Burr place of mind.
He's not contributing with anybody.
He's not collaborating.
He's just being Bill Burr.
Joey Diaz, same thing.
Everything that guy says is coming out of his head.
There's something extra to that.
It's not better or worse.
It's like the difference between you go into a restaurant and everything's homemade.
It might be the same as if everything wasn't homemade in terms of the way it tastes, but not the way it feels.
Right?
It feels different.
Like a guy like you writes your own shit.
Like when you write your own shit and you play your own songs, it's like I'm getting a piece of you.
I'm getting a little piece of you that comes out of your art.
That's the difference.
It's not like there's anything wrong with collaboration.
Collaboration is...
Look, if you look at Chris Rock's stuff, it's arguably some of the greatest work of all time in terms of the finished product of stand-up comedy, Bigger and Blacker.
It's one of the greatest comedy specials in the history of the world.
Period.
End of discussion.
Anybody that argues with you is an asshole.
So that came out of collaborative efforts.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Obviously, it made something amazing.
And many other bits.
And many other things that a lot of great comics have done.
But it is different, man.
It's different.
You know?
But we're all in some way connected to each other and collaborating with each other whether we like it or not.
How many stages into the game are they going to collaborate with you?
Are they going to be there for the final product?
Or are they just going to be influences along the way in your artistic journey?
everlast
Yeah, I mean, even the thing that I would consider that I wrote completely by myself, if you get down to the next level, it's like there's 25,000 things that have influenced why I think that way or feel that way.
For sure.
joe rogan
That's determinism.
everlast
That's why.
That's the whole angle of like there's really nothing new.
It's all about the angle and I liken it to like when I watch to I like watching the old Dogtown like documentaries Dogtown and the Z-Boys and shit and it's like the whole approach to skating was like Everybody can do that, but the style you do it in, that's what it really starts coming down to.
Again, if there's no brand new invention or brand new event, we're rehashing experiences that have been happening since the dawn of time.
You're just finding a new style and a new angle to dress it up in that makes people feel like it's new.
joe rogan
Sure.
Sorrow, romance, love, anger, all those things.
everlast
You're breaking the boredom of the way it's been thought of before in a new way.
And that's what becomes appealing to people.
joe rogan
But goddamn, when someone hits it and they do get through with something that's a new way of describing some shit we can all relate to, it makes you feel so good.
Music makes you feel good in a way that comedy never can.
Comedy makes you laugh and it makes you have a good time together.
We're all in a room laughing, hooting it up.
But music, when you're by yourself, man, it's just be you and that music, and you get goosebumps, you can lift more weights, you run faster.
It fires you up, man.
If I'm running hills and I'm listening to music, I honestly feel like I'm cheating.
I feel like I'm cheating.
Because I feel like I take this burst of artificial energy that's not dependent upon my discipline or drive.
everlast
It's not artificial, though.
joe rogan
No, it's not, but I didn't make it.
everlast
Yeah, no, but...
Again, see, I don't know if it's some grass is greener shit, and I don't even know if that's the proper phrase, but just when I look at it as an art form, that comparison when you're like, music is this, I'm like, comedy is so much more precious because you work it to that point.
Even if you tell an amazing joke that lives in me and I fucking love it so much, I take it and tell it to him.
For me, the minute I tell it to him, it ends.
It's like that's the end of that joke for me.
You know what I mean?
So it's like there's a preciousness to that.
It's like a fucking...
To me, there's a finite...
You're creating an art that's almost like a dude who creates art just to fucking watch it.
It works once.
Some Japanese lantern that's going to just go up in flames and fucking disappear.
It's like there's a beauty in that that to me is far different and far more, again, precious because it's...
Life is shorter.
You have to watch it end.
That's my point.
You have to watch an idea of yours come to a finite end.
Whereas when an idea of mine comes to a finite end and it's good and it connects, I can repeat it over and over and over and people accept that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
To me, it's just the preciousness of it, if you understand what I'm getting at.
It's like, wow, all that work for that.
It's almost like the Olympic athlete training his whole life.
That's how each joke almost is when you write it.
I watch a lot of economy.
I'm all over all y'all motherfuckers shit on the one side.
They post specials, Bill, all those dudes.
I'm Tony.
I'm into all this shit.
So it's like I'm really a fan of comedy.
And it's just amazing to me.
Like I said, the finite of this stuff is precious.
joe rogan
That's an interesting way of putting it.
I never really thought about it that way.
I thought about it in the way that you have to write new stuff.
But I never thought about it in the way that the first time that someone hears it, that's the only time they really hear it.
Every time after that, they know what's coming.
They never see it the same way, you know?
everlast
Again, like an Olympic athlete.
You're working that joke.
You're working that joke out and the joke's getting better and it's like, okay, it's a bronze medal joke right now and it's a silver medal joke.
If you ever get it to that gold medal joke and then you drop it where it's supposed to be in that place in time of the special or the thing that everybody sees, then it's done.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting now is there's a lot of comedy nerds.
They want to watch the process.
So they watch you flip punchlines around and flip things around.
And they go, hey, you did that thing different now.
I go, yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to do it right.
everlast
That'd be amazing to me if I had the time to just sit and watch you guys work out.
Like go to the comedy club every night or whatever.
joe rogan
You see these two ladies from Arizona, and they came down to the store.
They travel around the world.
They went to see Ari in Europe or Iceland or some shit.
But they're comedy nerds, and they come to watch.
And they'll see you two months ago, and then they come see you again.
I had conversations with them.
And they're like, yeah, I like how you switched that up.
You put that there, and I'm like, yeah, I'm trying to figure out where to put it.
I don't know where that goes.
everlast
The point is there's a journey there until you get to that point where it's dropped in that special thing that's been seen across a broad spectrum.
It is a journey.
And they know that because they're fans of the comedy.
So they know that thing's going to build into something.
That sounds like a fucking amazing time to me.
joe rogan
If you're a fan of music, it's hard to go watch people practice.
everlast
It's different.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Because you're practicing in front of motherfuckers and they're reacting.
I'm practicing.
We do it.
We call it shedding.
joe rogan
Yeah.
everlast
Because we're locked in a fucking room doing it by ourselves and we ain't going to do it in front of you until we got that shit right.
joe rogan
Right.
everlast
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
We can't do that.
We have to do it in front of people.
But the weird thing about it is it's like they can come and see it.
They can see you practice.
People can't see you practice really.
everlast
It's not practice.
You're just fucking...
Comedy is performance art.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
everlast
So it's like you're working it out.
You have the concept, but it has to be worked out.
It has to be walked to a destination, so to speak.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
The other part of it is, though, there's so many more people doing music than there are doing comedy.
Like, the waters are, like, less populated.
What do you think?
Like, the numbers?
For sure, right?
everlast
Oh, absolutely.
joe rogan
There's way more great bands than there are great comedians.
everlast
No, there's not a lot of great bands.
There's a lot of fucking artists.
Like, there's not a lot of new great bands.
Name a couple.
joe rogan
New great bands.
everlast
Oh, yeah, okay.
I thought we were talking about, like, what's coming, you know, the newest.
joe rogan
I mean, overall, like, people are active currently.
everlast
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, Rolling Stones are still on tour.
What the fuck is happening?
They're just waiting for someone to explode.
everlast
The funny thing was, I think I went to their farewell tour in like 85 or something like that, dude.
unidentified
God bless them.
everlast
And everybody back then was saying, isn't it amazing they're still touring?
joe rogan
Amazing.
Aerosmith 2, same deal.
everlast
They were probably in their 50s then, you know?
Now what, they're like 70s, 80s?
joe rogan
Dude, David Lee Roth looks healthy as fuck.
It was funny when you had him in your lyrics.
everlast
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, he's healthy as fuck, man.
That guy has no connection to the outside world.
He has a lady he uses.
The lady has a phone.
She tells David where he should go and when he should meet you.
David goes there.
David doesn't bring a phone.
I don't even know if he had a wallet.
I paid for dinner.
I'm like, this guy, he's not connected at all to the outside world.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Smiles at everybody.
Couldn't be friendlier.
He just knows his vibration.
He figured it out and he sticks with it.
everlast
Can't hate.
joe rogan
He's hilarious, man.
He's a fascinating cat, that David Lee Roth.
You know, he lived in Japan for like a year and learned Kendo, which is the art of sword fighting.
He trained under a Japanese master.
He brought his dog, rented an apartment, got a fucking apartment in Tokyo, and just every day went to Kendo practice.
He got whacked with bamboo swords.
everlast
One of my drummers, the guy, he's Nick Fish, he's actually the band Fishbone, he's one of the namesakes, and he's into all that, like heavy jiu-jitsu, but like martial arts, but he's weapons trained like crazy.
joe rogan
A lot of people are into it.
How many people move to Japan?
To train with a Japanese kendo master for a fucking year.
He didn't even speak Japanese.
He brings his dog to the other side of the planet to learn sword fighting for a year.
And he's David Lee Roth.
everlast
Did he learn Japanese though?
bobby green
Oh, he learned a lot of shit, yeah.
joe rogan
He can speak like a broken version, I'm sure, of Japanese.
But I bet his kendo's pretty badass.
I don't want to sword fight him.
He really went for it, you know?
He trained martial arts and karate and kickboxing under Benny Herkides.
Benny the Jet Herkides, who was like a California legend, a world legend.
everlast
At a gym like in Van Nuys, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Van Nuys.
When I first came to California, there was two things that I needed to do.
I needed to go to the comedy store first and foremost.
Number two is I needed to go to the Jet Center.
The Jet Center was Benny the Jet's place at Van Nuys.
everlast
I think I shot my first album cover there.
unidentified
Dude!
Did you really?
everlast
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
What year?
everlast
Like 1988. Oh my god.
joe rogan
I wasn't out here yet.
That's crazy.
I was just starting comedy.
everlast
This is the first ever last record with Ice-T. Ice-T had signed me to his label.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got here too late, man.
I got here in 94 and the gym had been so badly damaged by the earthquake that when it started raining, it was a year after the earthquake, When it started raining, the rain was leaking all throughout the ceiling.
The ceiling was a wreck, and they had a band in the building, and I don't think they ever...
They started off another place in North Hollywood, but it wasn't quite the same thing.
The Jet Center in Van Nuys was one of those places.
everlast
No, I'm positive now that's where it is.
It's because it's a boxing ring, and I remember the Jet Center.
That's where we started.
That's how I knew about bands.
That's how I learned about them.
joe rogan
Tough dudes, man.
I went there.
I was so nervous.
I came here from New York, and I was still sparring back then.
I hadn't decided to stop sparring yet.
I just needed something to do, and I was out here doing TV work, and I was training with all these gangbangers, man.
I remember this one dude, he had something on his back.
I don't remember what the name of the gang was, like, Flatas or something like that, and then it just said, fuck the rest, on his back.
And I remember thinking, Jesus.
And one of the guys, like Blinky Rodriguez, who was a world-class, world-championship-level kickboxer, he knocked out Jean-Eve Theriault.
He was like a top-of-the-food-chain kickboxer.
He had a son that succumbed to gang violence.
And so he worked really...
I'm sure pretty sure this is a story and he worked really hard to like Help the gang members in the community and bring them in the gym for free and teach them kickboxing and and and and show them that they have Value and that they get it work out their differences inside the ring like men and not get involved in gang violence Chillic test and so it was a weird thing because we'd go there It's like you're taking kick but I'm a fucking kid from the suburbs of Boston
And I'm a comedian, and I'm like fucking 26 years old, but I'm hanging out with gangbangers in this hardcore kickboxing gym of one of my martial arts idols, Benny Urquidez, and another one, Blinky Rodriguez, who was another one of my martial arts idols.
And they didn't know who the fuck I was, and I was just in there training with them, and then it went under.
And I was like, if I got this brief glimpse into this place that was...
In my childhood, like, martial arts childhood, like, that was one of the meccas that I needed to go to.
I needed to go to the Jet Center.
But it just, it all went away.
Real quick, like, within, I don't know, I don't know how many months after I joined there.
everlast
The name of the album was Forever Everlasting.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
everlast
It's me, like, in a corner of a, you know, because they had the Everlasting, they had me in a boxing ring, and I was fucking, yeah, that was the Jet Center, we shot that.
joe rogan
Benny the Jet was nasty, man.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
There it is.
unidentified
There you go.
Wow.
everlast
That's actually my father.
joe rogan
I bought that, bro.
unidentified
That's my father on the upper right there.
joe rogan
Dude, I bought that.
Guaranteed I bought that CD. 100%.
unidentified
100% I bought that CD. Yeah, that was all at the Jet Center, man.
Wow.
joe rogan
That guy was a legend, man.
Benny Arquitas was a beast.
He would go to Hawaii and fight in these crazy mix tournaments where they'd do judo on you and boxing and all kinds of crazy shit.
Those guys were the originators, man.
They were the hardcore second wave after Bruce Lee.
everlast
God damn!
joe rogan
Look at that, you handsome bastard.
God damn!
everlast
Dude, I got like a little Hitler stash or something going on there.
I think I was trying to grow it.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
You look like a quarterback in a movie.
Like a high school movie.
everlast
Like Friday Night Lights.
unidentified
One guy's like a big, burly asshole.
everlast
I was, I think, 16 right there, man.
That shot is taken by a legendary photographer by the name of Glenn Friedman, man.
He took many, many of the most iconic shots ever, dude.
Shout out to Glenn.
joe rogan
You would play a perfect guy in a movie about a quarterback who's an asshole to his girlfriend.
There's another guy in the school, and he's real sensitive, and he writes poetry, and the girl wants to be with him.
everlast
I want to kick his ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's you right there.
everlast
Yeah, bully him.
joe rogan
Listen, man, it's late as fuck.
everlast
Right.
joe rogan
20 to 7. You want to play one more song and get out of here?
everlast
Yeah.
unidentified
Shall we?
everlast
Let's do that.
Let's do a break it down.
joe rogan
Tell everybody, DJ Melo, please give up your credentials and social media.
everlast
DJ Melody.
Is it just DJ Melody?
Yeah, DJ Melody on Instagram.
And like I said, Beat Junkies Institute of Sound.
Check it out.
joe rogan
And all on Instagram, Twitter, all that jazz.
They can find it from there.
everlast
Yes, sir.
Whitey Ford's House of Pain is the album.
unidentified
Woo!
everlast
All these songs are from that.
And, uh, yeah.
Here we got one more for you.
joe rogan
One more.
everlast
Play you out.
joe rogan
Alright.
unidentified
You ready?
everlast
Cold and lonely, New York, December Girl on everything I remember Every day I got Memphis on my mind
I'm breaking cars and I've been calling Girl, as hard as I've been falling My heart gets broken almost every time And I'm bringing it home to you, baby Come home I've been living this world around my heart for so long And I'm bringing it home to you, baby Come home Girl, you've got to want to be around
You've been breaking down You've been breaking down Old friends like Eats are scanning Back where everything still matters Sometimes things just never go your way.
Roosed and broke, but I'm surviving all these miles that I've been driving.
Got all my hopes in this old blue Chevrolet.
I'm bringing it home.
Building this wall around my heart for so long.
unidentified
I'm bringing it home to you, baby, come home, yeah.
Girl, you got to all be around, can you hear me?
everlast
Break it down.
unidentified
Break it down.
everlast
Break it down Break it down Help me, break it down Help me, break it down Help me, break it down Break it down Break it down Help me,
break it down Help me, break it down Help me, break it down Help me, break it down Help me, break it down Help me, break it down Help me, break it down Break it down Break it down Break it down And I'm bringing it home to you, baby.
Come home.
unidentified
I've been building this wall around my heart for so long.
everlast
And I'm bringing it home to you, baby.
Come home.
unidentified
Girl, you got the one to be around.
everlast
You can help me break it down To you baby, come home Couldn't just swallow around my heart for so long I'm bringing it home to you, baby Come home, yeah Girl, you've got to all be around Can't help me break it down Can't help me break it down
Joe Rogan Experience Beach Junkies, DJ Melody.
joe rogan
Thank you guys, that was awesome.
everlast
Thanks brother, it was fun.
That was a good day today, it was fun.
joe rogan
It was beautiful, it was beautiful.
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