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July 11, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1324 - Ian Edwards
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ian edwards
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unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Ian Edwards, ever the contrarian, shows up with an Android phone drinking tea.
ian edwards
Crazy!
joe rogan
You just followed no rules, man.
ian edwards
Still vegan, baby.
joe rogan
Sorta.
You had some french fries with David Lee Roth that were made with clearly some animal fat.
Jamie, you were there.
What did you see?
jamie vernon
I saw a french fry or two.
joe rogan
Disappeared in my life.
Listen, at that MGM Steakhouse, they ain't cooking those french fries in anything other than animal fat.
Guaranteed.
They're too delicious.
ian edwards
I didn't see it.
I didn't see it.
joe rogan
Even at McDonald's, if you get McDonald's fries, apparently they cook them in some fucking disgusting fat.
ian edwards
Well, that's what makes them taste so good.
joe rogan
What does make McDonald fries taste good?
They're pretty good, but they're not my favorite.
unidentified
They're not?
joe rogan
I get confused when people say they're better than In-N-Out fries.
I like fries that taste like potatoes.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
In-N-Out fries are far superior.
ian edwards
I don't like fries that taste like potatoes.
jamie vernon
How dare you!
unidentified
This is the most upset I've ever seen Jamie in all my years working with him!
jamie vernon
Is In-N-Out fries better than McDonald's?
joe rogan
I do personally feel...
You know who I had beef with that about?
Candy Alexander from NewsRadio.
She was the first person to...
We went and got In-N-Out for the whole group of us.
And she got McDonald's fries.
She went and got McDonald's fries.
I'm like, why'd you get McDonald's fries?
She's like, fuck those bullshit fries.
Those In-N-Out fries.
I'm like, what?!
I didn't understand.
jamie vernon
They can be okay, but they're so hit or miss that they can miss bad.
joe rogan
To me, they're remarkably consistent.
They always taste like potatoes.
ian edwards
What are we discussing here?
Fries are remarkably...
It's like wine.
unidentified
Remarkably...
joe rogan
Well, still, they can't fuck with Five Guys fries.
Five guys are the king of fries.
ian edwards
For real?
joe rogan
Yes, they have two options.
They're real.
They have the fucking potatoes in bags sitting in their goddamn store just to let you know, bitch, we're using these potatoes.
And then they take that bag and shake it in there and cut it up.
They have Cajun fries.
So they win.
You have another option.
You got spicy fries that are goddamn delicious.
ian edwards
Might have to stop by there.
joe rogan
And then you don't have to crack packets to get your ketchup.
They have a giant tub of the ketchup.
You squirt that bitch in a nice little cup, a little paper cup.
ian edwards
You can shower it in ketchup.
joe rogan
McDonald's had that.
Homeless people would be under it.
Squirt mustard in their mouth.
I'll tell you what, man.
Since Starbucks got in trouble for being racist, there's a lot more homeless people at Starbucks.
Like, they understand now.
They could just go there.
It's really odd.
ian edwards
That's so funny.
joe rogan
It's true.
ian edwards
They can't get kicked out.
joe rogan
They can't get kicked out.
ian edwards
Everybody's afraid.
joe rogan
Dude, it's 100% different.
100% different in some spots.
jamie vernon
Which ones are you going to?
Because the ones in Hollywood, they know how to handle it for the most part.
They got locks on everything.
joe rogan
I went to a shifty one in downtown where they don't even have a bathroom.
Like, how are you serving coffee if you don't have a bathroom?
Coffee makes you shit and piss.
This is ridiculous.
But I realized they didn't have a bathroom because of the homeless people.
There was homeless people that had, like, this guy had a port and he was charging all of his devices.
He had everything.
He had, like, a phone, a fucking iPad.
ian edwards
He's got a long night ahead of him.
joe rogan
But they get free electricity there.
So he's got a bag of his stuff.
He's got a little camp in the corner of the Starbucks.
I'm like, wow.
On one hand, like, hey, how's a guy supposed to get some electricity?
I want him to get back up on his feet.
Maybe this is the way to do it.
Maybe it's through that iPad.
On the other hand, I'm like, hey, don't give me a disease, you fucking...
jamie vernon
I got hit to this Instagram account yesterday, Street People of Los Angeles, which has got some very interesting content.
joe rogan
Is that a naked person?
jamie vernon
Yes, it is.
joe rogan
A naked person just changing on the street?
jamie vernon
Changing on the street.
That was actually in San Francisco, I think.
I remember checking that post.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
This has got some interesting stuff.
These guys were cooking underneath a tree with a live grill somewhere.
ian edwards
There's a Tommy's in Hollywood.
joe rogan
Sorry, go ahead.
ian edwards
There's always a bunch of young homeless people cooking in front of it.
There's a bus stop.
They have a lit fire.
Like, cavemen.
Like, fear of the walking dead style.
Campfire.
Like, outside of the Tommies on Hollywood Boulevard.
Like, on a daily basis.
joe rogan
How weird.
It's just weird that that's okay.
Like, if you just wanted to start a fire...
On the side of the road.
Would that be okay?
No.
But can you certify her to cook?
ian edwards
Apparently.
joe rogan
Can you?
Or did they just not get busted?
jamie vernon
Probably need a permit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think you need something.
jamie vernon
To be like a grill street vendor type permit.
joe rogan
If you wanted to sell.
What if you just wanted to give food away?
jamie vernon
You can't do that.
joe rogan
You can't, but you can eat it yourself.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Could you offer it to somebody?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It seems like you could offer it to somebody.
Like, you know, if they allow you to cook, and you and I were sitting there and we're cooking, and I said, would you like some?
And you said, sure, that looks good.
That should be okay.
ian edwards
Yeah, it's like a donation.
You know, some places, they don't charge you to get in, but they accept a donation.
joe rogan
But what if you plan in advance?
You say, hey, all of us meet on the corner of 3rd and Santa Monica.
I'm going to have a cookout.
And where's your house?
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no.
joe rogan
No house, son.
ian edwards
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
We're just setting up right here on the concrete.
ian edwards
Yeah, those people should just go to a park that has those grills.
Griffith Park is not far.
Right.
joe rogan
Griffith Park is like people with homes cook there.
ian edwards
Yeah, they got free grills.
Yeah.
You could just do it up there.
joe rogan
Anybody can cook there.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is one of the nicest parts of LA, by the way.
And if people don't know, that is a fucking wildlife area.
That's a legit wildlife area.
There is a real predator, prey, fucking law of the jungle thing going down right now in Griffith Park.
It's mountain lions and deer.
And it is going down every day.
And coyotes.
You are doing all your stuff.
It's a really amazing place, right?
Because here we are.
We got Pasadena and Glendale and Burbank and LA. You know, beautiful fucking BMWs driving by.
Everything's cool.
People are jogging.
They got ear pods in.
They're jogging in Griffith Park.
They're jogging right near a war zone.
ian edwards
There's a war zone.
Bush is rustling sometimes because I live around the corner and I'm like...
joe rogan
Fuck.
ian edwards
Like, I'm on...
I'm staying paying attention 100%.
joe rogan
We got a giant framed picture headed to the studio of this mountain lion that was photographed by a camera trap.
You know what a camera trap is?
ian edwards
Nah.
joe rogan
They set them up to monitor the numbers of wildlife and to just try to get an accurate assessment of what's in the area.
So what it is is like a camera.
That's the photo.
It's a camera that operates...
On motion detection.
So as this cat, this probably 150-pound, super muscular, grown-ass mountain lion with a fucking collar on his neck, his name is P-22.
That's what it says up there?
jamie vernon
It's about 119 pounds as of May.
joe rogan
Okay, so it's not quite that big.
So it's still big enough to kill everyone in this room.
If it's in the room with us, we're fucked.
But look how muscular it is.
I mean, that is a...
Look at the size of its goddamn forearms.
Those are Franco Colombo forearms.
That is a terrifying animal.
And that animal lives around where all these people are jogging.
It's a really strange situation.
ian edwards
Yeah, I'm never going to Griffith Park again.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
It's a It's a great park.
They don't fuck with people.
ian edwards
Till I saw P125. I'm out.
Stay in my house, bro.
joe rogan
Look at the Hollywood sign behind it, though.
It's so perfect.
It's almost like a fake picture.
ian edwards
That is so close to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, so close to you.
ian edwards
I went to the park.
I'm like a block and a half away from that joint.
joe rogan
Dude, I run with a knife.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I do.
I run with this fucking half-faced blades knife.
It's called the S-H-P-O-S. Subhuman piece of shit.
That's what the name of the knife is.
jamie vernon
Oh, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
So they caught him here.
Look at that.
He's got blood and bones.
He's eating something.
That must be like a deer leg.
Fucking A, that is madness.
He's digging a hole in the ground to stuff it in there to save it.
Fuck, man.
ian edwards
Because you know what?
The deer around there are really comfortable.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that could be a kid, man.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
100% could be a kid.
ian edwards
But I know why he's there because the deer in that neighborhood, like they walk around in the daytime like they're tourists too.
Because there's no hunting around there.
So they're like all comfortable and shit.
joe rogan
I think people probably feed them too.
ian edwards
Yeah.
So then now that's like...
Oh, let me track these motherfuckers over to this area and I'll just have a feast.
It's a buffet night.
jamie vernon
Look at this shit.
It's on Mulholland Drive.
joe rogan
It's on Mulholland Drive.
There's a grown-ass mountain lion with a collar on that's got a giant deer on the ground.
A buck.
Not giant.
It's probably a hundred pound deer.
On the ground.
unidentified
Dead.
joe rogan
On the side of the city street.
ian edwards
This is civilization?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Civilization.
And this is a cat that's killing deer with its face.
ian edwards
That's where we live.
joe rogan
And not only that, we know where it is.
We have a collar on it.
We're playing this game.
You don't fuck with us, we won't fuck with you.
And they won't fuck with you for the most part.
The problem comes when they get old.
When they get old, they get real dangerous.
Because they get desperate.
They can't catch a deer anymore.
ian edwards
So they go for the easy kill.
joe rogan
They go for people.
People are easy.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, your kids are easy.
ian edwards
I'm going to go hiking with somebody slow.
joe rogan
That's a move.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go hiking with a small, slow person.
Someone who just doesn't look like a challenge at all.
ian edwards
Hey, man.
Survival of the fittest.
joe rogan
Go smoking with someone who's smoking.
Just smoking the meat makes it more attractive.
ian edwards
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
What if What we eat affects how we taste.
It's got it, right?
So maybe people who are really into junk food, they'd be more attractive.
They have a sweet taste to them.
I bet, right?
If you just eat candy all day, I bet you'd taste delicious.
ian edwards
Yeah.
The human Skittle.
Attack the human Skittle over here.
Leave me alone.
joe rogan
That fucking cat is so big, man.
Imagine just seeing a 115-pound cat in the room with you.
You'd be like, oh, Jesus Christ.
Like, my dog is probably...
Maybe 75, 80 pounds, somewhere in that range.
He's not a...
ian edwards
Marshall.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And if he wanted to kill me, he probably could.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, he's a golden retriever.
They don't kill anything other than squirrels.
But if he wanted to, I mean, I don't know.
ian edwards
If he had that mentality.
joe rogan
If he really was like crazed, like...
Like 28 days later, he got that rage virus in him, and he just went after me.
He's got giant-ass fucking teeth.
I mean, I assume that I would kick his ass because he listens to me, because I'm his daddy.
You know what I mean?
I've had pit bulls that growl at you a little bit, and you've got to kind of like, hey, motherfucker, I'm the one who gives you your food.
Cut the shit.
And then they give you their paw, and then they're sorry.
You play a little game with them, a little dominance game.
Especially when they're teenagers, and they're like one and a half, two years old, they'll test you.
Because it's natural for them.
It's natural for dogs.
Goldens don't ever do that.
He don't growl at anybody.
ian edwards
They're just obedient.
joe rogan
He's the worst guard dog of all time.
You come over everybody, he loves everybody.
He loves you.
He loves people like he's never met them, but he can't believe he hasn't seen them in so long.
It's like a long-lost friend.
ian edwards
He loves burglars.
joe rogan
They're long-lost friends.
Everyone's a long-lost friend.
ian edwards
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Everyone.
ian edwards
Everyone is a long-lost friend.
joe rogan
It is.
That's what it's like with him.
He's such a love sponge.
ian edwards
I would be jealous if that's my dog.
I'm like, so I'm not special?
unidentified
Yes.
ian edwards
Just that motherfucker?
joe rogan
That's how dogs are.
Like, really friendly dogs.
Every new person is another opportunity for a new person to love them, too.
And so they get so excited to meet people.
ian edwards
Smart.
joe rogan
Dude, when people come over the house, he's so hilarious.
He loves everybody.
Like, I can't believe it's you!
And they're like, I never even met your dog!
ian edwards
It's like, it's you!
unidentified
You idiot!
This is amazing!
And he just starts whining and running around in circles.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
But if you wanted to, you could probably kill me.
I mean, if a rat was that big, I would fucking put my money on the rat.
ian edwards
On the rat?
joe rogan
Right?
And dogs kill rats all the time.
Even those little dogs, like Jack Russell's, those little tiny dogs, those are designed to kill rats.
ian edwards
Hilarious.
My ex had a dog, right?
And I was holding a dog, and she got into a car right across the street and moved it, and then got out of the car.
And the dog acted like...
He didn't just see her jump in the car.
He acted like she went away for two days.
unidentified
I thought you were going to leave me!
ian edwards
I was like, she just moved the car across.
We watched her do it.
joe rogan
Do you remember when we had Mr. Foster, Aaron Foster, on the podcast and he was talking about being able to kill a wolf?
jamie vernon
You wanted to fight one.
joe rogan
We had to correct him.
We had to go press stop.
Just don't.
I know you're a beast, but come on, man.
We're people.
We're made out of smush.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything's smushy.
It's all so soft.
ian edwards
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Something that wants to bite your tit, like if a wolf decided to bite your tit, the amount of pain that you'd be in would be unbearable.
ian edwards
I know, you feel like one of those buns that they give you at the steakhouse.
That's what your flesh feels like.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ian edwards
Like a steakhouse bun bread.
joe rogan
Look at his fucking...
Aaron Foster spent four hours on Twitter explaining why he'd beat a wolf one-on-one.
It is hilarious.
Isn't he doing a podcast now?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's got his own podcast.
He started doing music, which is really good.
He just released some music under, I think, Bobby Fino's name.
ian edwards
He's a running back.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he was running back.
ian edwards
He's a vegan running back.
joe rogan
He retired young, and he's fucking super smart, man.
Except when it comes to wolves.
I think he's trolling a little bit.
He's having a little fun.
ian edwards
He's being smart.
jamie vernon
There's like a wolf he could get.
Not any wolf, but there's one out there he could take.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He could fuck up an old one.
ian edwards
A declawed one with no teeth.
jamie vernon
grandma wolf old one that doesn't have any endurance anymore he it would be a battle though even then before we get too far off of this I just those pictures on the yacht Google images sent me down this this is just north of the Los Angeles Zoo so there's a I think this might even be that same trap we just saw so this chap cougar has some food it's eating and then next picture the bears show up to take it and now they're eating the fucking food instead of the Oh my god.
ian edwards
So this is near us too?
jamie vernon
This is 30 miles away.
Or probably even closer.
joe rogan
Who knows?
So bears steal deer from cougars.
This is what happens when liberals run a state.
Listen, folks, I'm liberal.
I'm with you.
I know a lot of you think I'm not.
There's a lot of knuckleheads out there that think I'm a part of the alt-right or something.
I vote left on fucking everything.
But you gotta stop anthropomorphizing animals.
We gotta be careful.
I'm on team people.
I don't want these animals to die.
But I also don't want to go out to my fucking swimming pool and see a bear in there.
And they have that in Pasadena.
Have you seen that shit in Pasadena?
This family went outside and there was a fucking bear swimming around their pool.
ian edwards
They got bears in Pasadena?
joe rogan
Bro!
Big ones.
Like a 200 pound bear swimming in this motherfucker's pool.
ian edwards
Do I live here?
unidentified
Shit.
ian edwards
How do I know this shit?
joe rogan
Not only that, you gotta take over, man.
If they decide that this is their spot, look at this shit.
ian edwards
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Look at this, a few of them!
ian edwards
It's got the whole fam in there.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
How many bears are in there?
jamie vernon
Three, I think.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
Dude.
These things are no joke.
The problem with bears is, too, once they get a spot where they know they can get food, or they can get water, or they can get something, they're going to come back to that spot.
They get habituated.
That's why they have a real problem with people at Yellowstone used to feed them.
People would pull in, and then I actually did that, or was there when that happened, when I was a little kid.
I went to Yellowstone.
My parents took me when I was probably like seven or eight years old.
And I remember just thinking, this is so crazy.
You're in your car and the bears are outside.
They're right there.
They don't do it the same way anymore, though.
Now they discourage human-bear interaction.
They just didn't understand it, I think, as well, which is kind of crazy because that was not that long ago.
It was like the 1970s.
ian edwards
I just don't understand people's like for ferocious animals.
I don't want to kill them, but I never want to feed something that could kill me.
joe rogan
Well, I think people have this really distorted idea of wildlife because of movies.
If you thought about what the Lion King is, you would never want a lion to die.
You know, Lion is noble.
I mean, sure, there's a few bad ones, but overall, the Lion King, he's the sweetheart.
He's amazing.
You think about Yogi Bear, and you think about teddy bears.
Kids have teddy bears.
I mean, we have this weird thing.
We take polar bears, which is the most vicious of all bears, and we have them be our friends selling us ice cream and Coca-Cola.
They're selling Klondike bars.
ian edwards
Yeah, we cartoon them.
And then people grow up watching these cartoons and think, oh, let me go pet this friendly thing that was drawn.
But that's a ferocious beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wish it didn't have a history.
If we just thought of it as a thing, like a wolverine.
Wolverines don't have any...
No one feels about a wolverine the same way they think about a bear.
Because there's no cute wolverines.
There's only the ones that you see in X-Men or...
Like the Wolverine dude.
ian edwards
It's just one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But he's like a person.
His name's Wolverine.
There's no cute Wolverines because they're so fucking ferocious.
Such a monster of a little animal.
One Wolverine will fuck up a big bear.
ian edwards
Oh, for real?
joe rogan
Dude, they're fucking ruthless.
They chase wolves off food.
ian edwards
How big are Wolverines?
joe rogan
Not big, man.
40 pounds?
50 pounds?
ian edwards
Jeez.
joe rogan
They'll fuck up everything.
They fuck up everything.
Everything runs away from them.
They're just ready to die.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
All day.
All day ready to die.
And they're super strong and durable for a little tiny thing.
You know what a wolverine looks like?
Pull up a wolverine bearing his fangs.
It looks like a fake animal.
It looks like a super jacked little giant rat bear thing with fangs.
It's like a super badger.
Badgers are very similar.
ian edwards
And badgers are vicious.
I know they're vicious.
joe rogan
Fucking vicious.
That's a Wolverine.
ian edwards
Jesus.
joe rogan
Bro!
I mean, look at the teeth on that thing.
Look at its face.
ian edwards
And it's smiling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
That's a good day.
joe rogan
Those motherfuckers are ready to go to war all day.
Make weird noises.
They're terrifying.
Like, if that thing wanted to kill you, you would be fucked.
ian edwards
Look at those claws.
joe rogan
The claws and the teeth.
Now imagine that that thing is hyper-aggressive and it's a predator.
unidentified
Fuck!
ian edwards
That shit is built to survive.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
That is a crazy little animal.
They are ferocious and they are ready to go at all times.
I mean, they'll try to get the fuck away from you.
The animal scientific name means the glutton.
ian edwards
Damn.
joe rogan
It's a pretty apt description.
Four feet tall, weighing 22 pounds for females and 40 pounds for males.
These fierce creatures are the largest members of the weasel family.
They're fucking weasels, bro.
ian edwards
A vicious weasel.
joe rogan
Still, they're small compared to some of the animals they compete with for food, but a wolverine has no problem standing up to wolves or a bear when a meal is on the line.
Isn't that crazy?
40 pounds.
The way bears are to us is the way, or we are to dogs.
You know, like an 80-pound dog would probably fuck you up if you're a 150-pound person.
That's how wolverines are to bears.
A 40-pound wolverine might fuck up a 200-pound bear.
A bear's like, damn, this ain't worth it.
ian edwards
When I die, I want to come back as a wolverine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
It's a vicious-ass animal.
joe rogan
They eat caribou.
They eat hares and rodents as well as larger animals like caribou that are weak or ill, but will also scavenge from any carcass they can get their claws on.
They also eat vegetables and berries.
Frozen meat isn't a deterrent.
Their upper molar that sits sideways at 90 degrees lets them rip into ice-covered carcasses.
Their teeth are so sharp and strong that they can even eat bones.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian edwards
Damn.
joe rogan
Once they got food, they often bury it to save for later.
Mere hours after a meal, they'll go on the hunt again.
Ferocious.
Ferocious little fucks.
ian edwards
Ugly as shit, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, so we don't have a cutie one of those.
ian edwards
Right.
We don't have a cutie one of those.
joe rogan
If we did, we'd be like, the Wolverine!
Hi, Mr. Wolverine!
Hi, kids!
I'm here to help you and guide you through the forest!
No, they're here to eat your kids.
ian edwards
I'm waiting for some woman to bring one on the plane as a support Wolverine.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some crazy.
It's always a woman.
Yeah.
And always one that's like over 50 and on all kinds of medication.
If you're a dude and you bring a Wolverine on a plane, they'll beat you to death.
ian edwards
We'll beat your ass.
joe rogan
Has a Wolverine ever killed a person? - Ugh.
There's some women that will get offended by that.
Why does it have to always be a woman?
Is it you?
It's not you, right?
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
I'm not talking about you.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Why do we have to be gender-specific?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if I'm saying, oh, it's probably a woman, it doesn't mean to hate no women.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
What it means is, it's probably really a woman.
ian edwards
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If you had a guess, just being honest.
ian edwards
Because the peacock person...
joe rogan
That was a woman.
ian edwards
That was a woman.
And then the...
joe rogan
But in the defense of women, a guy got an emotional support alligator recently.
ian edwards
What an idiot.
joe rogan
He was a guy.
ian edwards
And he's an idiot.
joe rogan
But I hear about that and I wonder how many of those people, including the peacock lady, are doing it just for attention because they know that people talk about it.
ian edwards
I think people that have, like I saw this girl in San Diego, La Jolla.
She came to the restaurant with her micro pig.
joe rogan
That's not real, you know.
ian edwards
That's not real.
They made those?
joe rogan
Yeah, Whitney Cummings explained it to me.
She adopted a pig and then fed it and then drove some ungodly amount of time, like two days, to Texas to drop it off at a pig sanctuary.
That's how crazy for animals Whitney Cummings is.
So through Whitney, I learned that pigs are just pigs.
There's no micro pig.
It's just a pig that they don't feed.
ian edwards
Oh, for real?
joe rogan
For real.
ian edwards
So they just starved it and it just stayed small?
joe rogan
They just keep it from getting big by not giving it a lot of food.
ian edwards
That's not cool.
joe rogan
Pawn it off on a sucker.
ian edwards
It's a pig.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ian edwards
It's got to eat.
joe rogan
Exactly.
It's a greedy little pig.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, they're famous for getting fat.
That's what they love to do.
So they'll pawn it off on some person.
ian edwards
Mm-hmm.
Well, because they can't afford not to feed it?
joe rogan
No, the person doesn't know any better.
They think they're getting a micro pig.
Oh, it's going to be small and cute forever.
No, you're going to have a thousand pound pig.
If you feed it everything it wants to eat, it's going to keep growing.
ian edwards
It's like, damn, how did my pig grow?
joe rogan
It's because it's a pig.
It's like micro people.
If you look at people from the Civil War day, they were all 125 pounds.
Why was that?
Because they didn't have any fucking food, man.
The same guy today would probably be 200 pounds.
ian edwards
Especially with McDonald's and all that stuff and everything in it.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Even just eating regular food.
Just real meat and potatoes and vegetables and shit.
You're not going to be 125 pounds.
That guy was probably starving.
ian edwards
Yeah, they probably didn't have three meals a day back in the Civil War era.
And snacks.
joe rogan
I read this book by this pool hustler.
It was McGurdy, Life of a Billiard Hustler, I think it was.
It's a really interesting book because it was about a guy who survived by traveling around on trains like a hobo, gambling, playing pool and billiards in the Depression.
But during the Depression, he was talking about almost starving to death.
Like, they would knock on people's door and beg for food.
And, you know, people would just come out with a plate of food and give it to them.
Like, everybody was, like, on the edge.
People had to really rely on people.
They didn't, like, rely on people for food.
There was no fucking jobs.
There was a lot of people back then.
You know, with looking at these homeless folks, and, like, for the most part, My opinion is you're looking at people probably have an undiagnosed or untreated mental illness.
ian edwards
Yeah, it's a lot of that.
joe rogan
I think it's a lot.
I don't know what the number is, but I would think it's a lot.
And then there's also people that make mistakes down on their leg.
And then people that, you know, had terrible childhoods, horrible abuse, sexual abuse, violence, the evil parents, you know, parents die, leave them alone, foster care, all that kind of shit.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not their fault a lot of times.
And as humans, we should do something to take care of it.
But on the other hand...
ian edwards
Yeah.
And we just don't know who's who out there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Who's mentally ill?
Who just needs help?
And the mentally ill people, man, they need help too.
But how do you force them to...
How do you force them into treatment?
ian edwards
How do you just get them real help?
Because the way they do help people with pills and all that stuff, some of it works and some of it doesn't work.
You know what I mean?
And some of it just creates a dependency on something.
So it's just like the system just from the beginning needs to be fixed and not just like pills.
joe rogan
Have you ever been on any kind of psych medication?
ian edwards
No.
joe rogan
Have you ever taken Adderall?
ian edwards
No.
joe rogan
Me neither.
I want to, though.
ian edwards
You do?
joe rogan
Jamie gave me a little bit of Adderall once, allegedly.
And I didn't take it.
I looked at it and was like, I don't want to fuck with this.
ian edwards
Yeah, I don't do it, man.
joe rogan
I'm scared of speed.
jamie vernon
I gave it to you because I haven't taken it either.
I had it for a long time.
I was like, I don't think I'm going to take it.
joe rogan
Do you want it?
I've known so many people that do it and they get real weird.
They get weird.
And it's an amphetamine.
And when you take amphetamines, especially if you don't take amphetamines responsibly, really strange things happen.
And one of the things that happens is people get really paranoid.
They get really weird.
They get they start having delusions of grandeur They start thinking that what they're doing is very important that a lot of people are out to take them down Mm-hmm, and you see that with people that do too much Adderall.
They don't follow the prescription They just start chewing them all day.
Whoo Things can get real slippery like the mess slippery.
ian edwards
It's like math math slippery.
That's all it hurts.
It's like Because I guess they get immune to it, so they gotta take extra.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, definitely.
ian edwards
And then the more you take, the worse it gets.
joe rogan
Yeah, tolerances are real for everything, I assume.
I mean, they even have tolerances for snake venom.
One of the things that snake handlers do, they'll give themselves a little bit of venom every day to make themselves immune to snake venom.
Your body's an amazing, adaptable thing, which is why vaccines work.
That's why these crazy fucks who don't want us to have vaccines, like, listen...
We've got to be real careful with claiming expertise on this shit.
We've got to be real careful with getting fucked over by pharmaceutical companies.
We've got to be real careful of that, too.
But we've also got to be real careful of not listening to these doctors and researchers that are struggling to find the ways to cure these horrible infectious diseases.
Because they've got a lot of them nailed through vaccines.
ian edwards
It's so confusing out there.
You can make an argument for any team for anything.
joe rogan
You can.
ian edwards
So it's tough to figure out.
joe rogan
I know logical, intelligent people that think that vaccines cause autism.
And I'm not a doctor, so I don't know if you know that.
ian edwards
Yeah, I think, I think.
joe rogan
Not a doctor.
No.
But I've heard logical, intelligent people argue that vaccines can cause autism.
I'm like, man, you're not a scientist.
Like, how could you say that?
Because you saw it in a documentary?
I know it's interesting when you see something in a documentary that sounds good, you want to relay it as fact.
I'm as guilty as that, as anyone.
Probably more guilty than most.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I'm guilty of doing that a lot.
But just recognizing that over time, I've gotten to this point where I'm like, maybe I should just shut the fuck up about something that I don't actually know about and try to figure out what it is instead of saying what it is.
What they do know is that vaccines have stopped the spread of a fucking bunch of awful diseases.
ian edwards
Yeah, saved a bunch of plagues.
joe rogan
Smallpox.
That Lindsay Fitzharris woman who's been on the podcast, Jamie, she sent me some image of some people with smallpox.
A bunch of stuff about smallpox.
Smallpox is horrific, man.
Just horrific, how it kills you.
Horrific.
They nip that shit in the bud with vaccines.
ian edwards
Maybe some vaccines do give people autism.
joe rogan
That's what that guy's back looks like.
ian edwards
Maybe some vaccines do give some people autism, but overall, most of the time, it helps everybody.
There's going to be some things that affect people differently.
But that means you can't stop taking it or giving it to everybody.
joe rogan
That's no consolation.
ian edwards
To stop them from having...
joe rogan
Right, it's no consolation if you get autism from it or if your child gets autism from it.
Yeah, but it's one of those things that's messy.
ian edwards
But everybody else that grows up without it, you know...
joe rogan
It's a messy thing about being a person, right?
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
It's not like clean, like, are you pro-abortion?
Well, I'm pro-abortion up to a point, right?
When it gets to like seven months, that seems to, you know, it gets longer in the pregnancy.
That seems like, if you're talking about like the first few days, yeah, what is that, like three cells?
ian edwards
I'm pro-abortion if I get the girl pregnant.
joe rogan
As far as it takes.
As far as it takes.
Yeah, it's a weird, you know, with many, many, many subjects.
There's like a weird, well, it's not exactly, well, it's this.
You know, there's a vaccine court for a reason.
Vaccines have done damage to people.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
People got injured from vaccines.
During the injection site, something happened.
Peter Hotez was talking about that.
He's a doctor that's a specialist in infectious diseases and vaccines.
And he was explaining that there's five environmental factors that they think, or five factors they think contribute to a child possibly getting autism.
They've narrowed it down to these things with the most current research.
But they're all during the womb.
It's contact with things during the womb or in the genetics of the mother.
They think it has something to do with the developmental process while the child is in vitro in the woman's body.
Not after birth.
They don't think it occurs after birth.
But I don't know that.
I mean, they could be wrong.
They could be current, and then they could change that opinion a year from now.
They could find new evidence.
That shit happens all the time.
ian edwards
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
It really does.
It happens all the time.
But what we have to do is make sure we have fucking people that are working on this shit, trying to figure out the way to stop diseases.
Because otherwise some Spanish flu type shit comes rolling around.
ian edwards
Some simple shit can kill everybody.
joe rogan
That Spanish flu killed millions and millions of people in the 1920s.
ian edwards
Yeah, it doesn't sound lethal at all.
It's just Spanish flu.
It's just like, how did that kill people?
joe rogan
Sounds like a drink.
ian edwards
Yeah.
jamie vernon
To bring that full circle back to downtown LA where typhus outbreaks have happened the last couple of years.
It's not the exact same thing as typhoid fever, I think, but it's very close.
joe rogan
It's a new one.
It's a new one.
It's a new typhoid that they don't have a fucking vaccine for.
I was down there the other day just trying to buy donuts.
unidentified
Downtown?
joe rogan
The allure of downtown has escaped me.
Everybody thinks it's amazing.
When Jamie and I talked, and we've been talking about this forever, we wanted to get aloft in downtown, like up high, and start filming podcasts up there.
Because I think that would be the coolest backdrop.
For YouTube, you and me sitting here behind us, you're just all building.
ian edwards
Like some Times Square, MTV shit.
joe rogan
Lights and shit.
That would be an amazing backdrop for a podcast.
jamie vernon
Green screen that now and be safe.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't do that.
If I was going to green screen something, it would be like current events shit.
It would be like Melania Trump slapping Donald's hand away.
I'd be like, did you see that shit?
That would be what I would do.
I wouldn't pretend I'm in the savannas.
You know what I mean?
Behind me there's a cheetah creeping up on me and everybody sees me.
He's like, does he know?
Does he know?
I'll be sitting in Griffith Park.
Behind me is a mountain lion munching on a leg.
ian edwards
I was meditating in Griffith Park one morning, and I hear rustling in the bushes, and it was a coyote just waking up.
joe rogan
They bite you.
ian edwards
Yeah, and I was like, I can't do that anymore.
Close my eyes in Griffith Park.
joe rogan
Yeah, you go camping out there, they'll bite you.
They'll check that you might be dead.
They'll take a bite.
If you just lie in there, like, damn, maybe he just recently died.
They'll just bite you.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
They really will.
They really will.
They're predators.
That whole thing is so strange.
People are so strange how we just, we think it's cool.
I think it's cool to be around these bears and mountain lions and shit.
ian edwards
And we have urban coyotes, ones that you'll see walking down the street at night.
My neighbor had two little dogs and one of them was really old.
So then she had to walk them one at a time because she saw a coyote one time coming up on them and she couldn't handle both of them.
So she takes or she used to take each dog out to walk at night one at a time.
joe rogan
Take a gun.
Shoot that fucking rotten dog right in the face.
That's what a coyote is.
A dog, not her dog.
I was talking about the coyote.
Well, actually, it's a wolf.
It's a small wolf.
ian edwards
It's a small wolf.
joe rogan
Yeah, a coyote is a particularly durable and resilient form of wolf.
ian edwards
It's a shitty wolf.
joe rogan
It's a really interesting wolf.
There's a great book called Coyote America by Dan Flores.
I learned about him through my friend Steve Rinell.
I think he was his professor...
In one of his courses.
But he is a guy who spent an extreme amount of time studying the history and the science behind coyotes.
Really, really interesting book.
But one of the things they found out is that when you kill a coyote, they just make more coyotes.
That's why there's so many of them.
ian edwards
Like they know?
joe rogan
They spread out.
Yeah, when they yell out, they communicate in a lot of different ways.
They yell out when they kill something sometimes.
They yell out when they're trying to figure out where each other's are.
They also yell out like a roll call.
Oh, get the fuck out of here.
It's hard out there.
So they're like, hey, what's up, Ian?
Hey, Jamie!
unidentified
Where are you, Jamie?
joe rogan
They do that.
That's part of what they're doing.
And when one is missing...
The female, there's some sort of a chemical or biological reaction and her body makes more puppies.
ian edwards
She's like, we're fucking tonight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
I didn't hear Jamie, we're fucking tonight.
joe rogan
They make larger litters.
ian edwards
Damn.
joe rogan
So if a normal litter would be like four pups, if someone's missing, they'll make six or eight.
Something along those lines.
ian edwards
So now we can't kill them.
joe rogan
Well, they spread out, too.
In the 1700s and 1800s, you know, when people first started going through the West, you know, they were around.
But then when we started killing them, they spread to the entire country.
They're in every single state.
ian edwards
So they weren't, like, this way?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They weren't everywhere.
They were a West animal.
They were a Western animal.
ian edwards
And then they went...
joe rogan
Bro, they're in New York City.
ian edwards
Oh shit, for real?
joe rogan
Yes, for real.
There's coyotes in New York City.
They have little packs of them running around Times Square.
ian edwards
Get out of here, bro.
unidentified
Dude!
ian edwards
For real?
joe rogan
Dude!
There's little coyotes that are wandering through Central Park.
ian edwards
Listen, I get that there's mountain lions in Griffith Park.
I get that there's urban coyotes.
But New York City?
joe rogan
I might have made up the Times Square part.
ian edwards
But that's bananas.
jamie vernon
They're deaf in New York.
unidentified
I'll check.
joe rogan
I know they're in New York because there was...
ian edwards
They probably came from upstate.
joe rogan
They've seen them in buildings.
ian edwards
In buildings?
joe rogan
People have seen coyotes in abandoned buildings where they've decided to make a nest in abandoned buildings.
They're all over downtown LA. Damn.
jamie vernon
There's Central Park.
joe rogan
Central Park.
Bam.
Coyote motherfucker.
ian edwards
Damn, bro.
jamie vernon
On the streets.
joe rogan
Coyote.
Okay.
On the street.
So I was telling the truth.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they could go to Times Square easily.
unidentified
Yeah, they're everywhere.
jamie vernon
I gotta look.
ian edwards
I'm almost like a tourist coyote.
joe rogan
That is a small wolf.
That's what that is.
And we're infected with them.
And here's the thing.
This is what you have to be aware of.
That's the gentleman that, go back.
What is his name?
jamie vernon
Justin Brown.
joe rogan
Yeah, Justin Brown was on the podcast.
He tracks coyotes all throughout downtown L.A. He's a wildlife biologist that works for the state.
Really interesting, in downtown L.A. So instead of being at a ranch outside of Bakersfield in Tachapi Mountains, this guy is a coyote.
jamie vernon
Same trap.
joe rogan
The same camera trap got that?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Get a picture of that too, young Jamie.
Order that bitch up.
Make a note.
Yeah, why not, right?
We should have a coyote picture too.
We can't just have a mountain lion.
That's rude.
Let's show all the crazy shit that's wandering.
See if they got a bear in that camera trap.
ian edwards
Yeah, hopefully they got a beer.
I like how the coyotes are so used to being around, like the way they walk down the street is just like regular.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Like no trepidation whatsoever.
joe rogan
Look at that, just wandering.
ian edwards
Yeah.
Yeah, whistling walk.
joe rogan
I remember in 1994, the first, it might have been 93, the first time I ever came to L.A. and I was staying at the Oakwood Gardens.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You know those?
ian edwards
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Barham.
Yeah, on Barham.
They're in Burbank.
They're a furnished apartment.
It's where you stay when you first come to L.A. You don't have a spot.
You don't have enough money to get it up.
And you don't know if the show you're on is ever going to go.
ian edwards
It's going to last, yeah.
joe rogan
So I stayed at these Oakwoods Apartments and I was driving up the street to the apartment and I saw coyotes.
I was like, what is this dog doing just wandering around?
And I was like, oh shit, those are coyotes?
I couldn't believe it.
I pulled over and I'm looking out the window.
There's three little wolves.
ian edwards
Isn't it funny how that moment when something you've never seen before, you see it, and it takes you a second to realize what it is, and then the word for what it is comes to your head right away.
Like, you knew it was a coyote, even though you've never really seen a coyote before.
I was in denial.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was thinking it was a dog.
Like it was three dogs.
And then I had to pull over and I'm like, I remember people telling me they'd seen coyotes.
But I thought it was like I saw a mountain lion.
Like if someone says I saw a mountain lion, you're like, holy shit, you did?
That's pretty rare.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
Have you ever seen one?
ian edwards
No.
joe rogan
I've seen two.
ian edwards
Live?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen two live ones.
ian edwards
While you, like, out there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
And what happened?
joe rogan
One of them ate my dog.
That was when I lived in Colorado.
Yeah.
ian edwards
And you was right there?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
This mountain lion was casing the house, I think.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
And we saw it in the woods at one point in time.
And then another one I saw in Santa Barbara in Montecito.
Driving through a neighborhood I saw this animal run across the car in the front of the lights and I saw its tail and I was like, holy shit, that's a cat.
ian edwards
I take it back.
I have seen some mountain lions.
joe rogan
Really?
ian edwards
You know Faison Love?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
He moves all over the place.
But one time, he lived in San Diego.
Me and Hugh Moore went to visit him.
And we was at his house hanging out.
And at night, he was like, look out the window in his backyard.
And there was like mountain lions in his fucking backyard.
joe rogan
More than one?
ian edwards
Yeah.
There was like two or three of them.
unidentified
What?
ian edwards
And all I'm thinking is like, how the fuck are we going to get to the car?
joe rogan
Oh...
Oh my god.
ian edwards
And he was so casual about it.
And I was like...
joe rogan
Wow.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's time to move, son.
Yeah.
Jamie, did you ever see that video from Colorado where a guy looked out his window, there was three mountain lions on his driveway.
It was like super clear iPhone footage.
This guy, or Android phone, I don't know.
I don't know what he used.
ian edwards
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Could be.
ian edwards
Could be an Android.
joe rogan
He was saying this week, and he takes...
More shit for using an Android phone than for being a vegan.
ian edwards
Yeah, for being a black, vegan, comedian.
unidentified
Yeah, you get more grief for having an Android phone.
joe rogan
It's a weird little battle, right?
It's like Republican-Democrat type shit.
ian edwards
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
It is.
ian edwards
People with iPhones really ain't trying to have it.
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that.
It's like there's teams.
It's like the fucking Orioles are playing the Yankees.
ian edwards
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
People get on a goddamn team.
ian edwards
And the iPhones are the Yankees right now.
joe rogan
It's weird, man.
The phone thing is a weird thing.
It's weird that people are so...
They're really, like, so tribal.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
That they're tribal with their phones.
ian edwards
Yeah, they made a tribe out of phones.
People can make a tribe out of anything.
joe rogan
Hmm.
And what's really crazy is the biggest company, the ones that's the most desirable, is a company that also makes computers and they make their own shit.
They make their own hardware.
That's what's really strange about Apple.
Like, they make everything.
They make the software.
They make the hardware.
There's only one.
You have different models, but there's only an iPhone.
You get an iPhone R, XR, whatever the fuck it is.
X, XS, Max.
But it's only an iPhone.
That's all you get.
You don't get anything else.
Whereas Android, you got hundreds of brands.
ian edwards
Yeah, see?
There's so much variety, everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
You can choose from Jamie's right now.
joe rogan
But you gotta be able to deal with that green.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
When the green comes in on a text message.
ian edwards
People get offended by the green bubble.
joe rogan
I have friends that I go, oh, he's one of those who's green.
Even smart people.
I'm like, look at them with this fucking green.
ian edwards
But maybe if they're smart and your bubble comes to green, it means something.
They know something.
joe rogan
It doesn't look green to them.
ian edwards
That's the thing.
joe rogan
Messenger's pretty cool looking.
ian edwards
Yeah, all my texts is when they come in.
Like, they're all...
joe rogan
What do they look like?
ian edwards
I'm just going to show you.
Well, I think mine are.
joe rogan
Oh, they're blue.
ian edwards
Yeah, blue.
joe rogan
So yours come in blue anyway, so it looks blue.
What do you have, a Note?
ian edwards
Yeah, a Galaxy Note 9. Note 9, yeah.
joe rogan
That's the shit.
I have one of those.
That's my other phone.
ian edwards
Yeah, you told me, yeah.
joe rogan
That thing is badass.
ian edwards
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
It's a beast of a phone.
That screen is amazing.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so big, and you get the whole screen.
There's no cutout.
ian edwards
Yeah, and it goes down the side and shit.
But I got it just in case I'm on a flight and I want to watch something on it.
Or just somewhere you want to watch something on it, you download it and you have a full screen.
Instead of getting an iPad on top of that.
joe rogan
Right.
ian edwards
Because people have just too much shit.
joe rogan
Do you ever use the pen though?
That pen is useless to me.
ian edwards
Yeah, I just like signed a document today.
Really?
Yeah, like Chandra needed a W-9 signed, a W-9 form for me, and I just like downloaded it, signed it, and then emailed it back.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've never used it.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe it's just me.
I draw dicks on people's heads.
ian edwards
Yeah.
That's a perfect use for it.
joe rogan
But I also feel like a rebel when I use my Android phone.
I do.
ian edwards
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
I do.
I feel like a rebel.
ian edwards
You do.
joe rogan
Fuck it.
I'm crazy, man.
Fucking trans out here.
ian edwards
Woo!
When do you use your Android?
So you have your iPhone.
joe rogan
I'm using it more often.
I'm transitioning out of one phone number to another, which I have to do often.
ian edwards
Oh, okay.
So you have two different numbers.
joe rogan
I'm getting used to it.
I play with it a lot.
They've got a new one that's coming out.
There's a new one that's coming out that looks amazing.
ian edwards
Note 10?
Note 10?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's coming out in a couple weeks.
ian edwards
Yeah, I try to hold on to...
I don't try to get every new phone.
I try to hold on to it for a minute, so I feel like they didn't rip me off, and then maybe three or two phones later, then I'll get the other one.
But if I buy every phone, I feel like...
I want to be a rebel within the rebel.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
I got some old shit.
ian edwards
Yeah, I got some old shit.
You're not going to get me like in this loop of just buying, buying, buying.
joe rogan
Comparison.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that a weird thing?
Like that phone, they could stop right there.
That phone's perfect.
Like it does everything.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
What more do I need?
Takes pictures, makes videos, get on the internet, ask your questions, gives me answers, send emails.
unidentified
What the fuck else do I need?
ian edwards
Don't.
You don't.
joe rogan
You don't.
ian edwards
It does everything, unless they come up with some new shit.
joe rogan
But if someone said, hey, Ian, I'll give you a million dollars, but you gotta use that phone only for the rest of your life, would you say yes?
ian edwards
This one?
joe rogan
Yes.
ian edwards
That's crazy, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'd say, listen, if it breaks, we'll replace it, but that's your phone forever.
ian edwards
I know it'll slow down.
joe rogan
Well, Apple phones will slow down because they engineered them, and that made me sick.
That almost made me stop using Apple stuff.
I was like, I can't believe that you guys are attributing this to battery life.
That's disingenuous.
ian edwards
And then they admitted it, right?
joe rogan
Well, they admitted it, but they said they did it so that it would give you more battery life because your battery degrades over time, so they engineered it.
That is a convenient thing.
They also must have understood that people were going to get frustrated with the fact that it slowed down considerably and it would give them an incentive to buy a new phone.
To say that they didn't say that?
Like, come on.
You guys are so goddamn smart, you make iPhones.
unidentified
Right.
ian edwards
They figured out everything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
But not that.
joe rogan
You didn't figure that out?
ian edwards
You figured that out on purpose.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You also are one of the most successful businesses of all time.
Apple has billions of dollars cash just sitting there.
They have so much money.
ian edwards
They got Pablo Escobar buried money.
joe rogan
They got so much money.
Apple has something like...
How many billions of dollars does Apple have?
jamie vernon
$225 billion.
joe rogan
Apple has so much cash that they could probably wipe out half our debt.
jamie vernon
This is what they could buy right now and still have $25 billion left over.
joe rogan
They could buy Nike, Ferrari, Twitter...
jamie vernon
And the Manchester United franchise.
joe rogan
And the Manchester United football team.
ian edwards
And still have how much left over?
jamie vernon
25 billion left.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
I say football for people like yourself that are aficionados.
ian edwards
Thank you, sir.
joe rogan
I didn't say soccer.
ian edwards
I appreciate that.
joe rogan
Do they say soccer where you're from, like originally?
ian edwards
In England?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, not in England.
In England it's football.
ian edwards
Yeah, only in America they say soccer.
joe rogan
But before the...
Where did it become football?
Was it always football in Europe?
ian edwards
It was always football.
joe rogan
Why, when it came over here, did it switch over?
ian edwards
No idea.
joe rogan
Why didn't they come up with another name for football?
Because you hardly ever kick a football.
ian edwards
I think...
I think they were playing football, like the soccer football, and then somebody picked up the ball and started running with it, and they started tackling each other.
I heard some story like that.
And then they kind of created football, and it evolved from there.
But then they never changed the name.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that football is called football when the only person who kicks it is a guy who can't even play the game?
ian edwards
It's the least significant person on the team as far as getting pussy when there's a championship.
Yes.
That is weird.
joe rogan
And you're not allowed to hit him, right?
ian edwards
Right, and you're not allowed to hit him.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
You can hit him.
jamie vernon
It's not while he's in motion of a vulnerable person.
They try to be safe.
joe rogan
Oh, so you can't hit him while he's kicking?
jamie vernon
While his leg's up in the area.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so ridiculous.
What a bitch-ass rule.
ian edwards
If you block the ball, then you can hit him.
joe rogan
But isn't it crazy that that's football?
There's only one time it gets kicked.
How is that football?
What a silly name.
Right?
ian edwards
Doesn't make sense.
But I'm not mad at it.
You know, it's like, fine.
It's whatever.
joe rogan
Imagine if they called, you know, baseball, what would they call it?
Foul?
Call it foul.
We're playing foul.
It's something that happens every now and then in this game.
It has nothing to do with running around the bases.
It's about touchdowns.
You should call it touchdown.
We're going to play touchdown.
ian edwards
Yeah, because it's just, you know, baseball.
It's just like we're trying to get from base to base.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
If they call baseball touchdown.
joe rogan
No, if they call football touchdown.
ian edwards
Touchdown, yeah.
joe rogan
Call it the NTL, National Touchdown League.
We're going to play touchdown.
That's the game.
It's not football.
Your foot doesn't have shit to do with it except running.
jamie vernon
I'm looking through an explanation of why we call it soccer and it's more confusing than we care to go through.
joe rogan
When you go back to England, if you're from England and you're talking about it, do people, do they resent the term soccer?
Like, how does that work?
ian edwards
Some people do.
Like, I used to resent the term soccer.
joe rogan
Really?
ian edwards
Yeah.
But I live here, and it's like, get over it.
You know what I'm saying?
As a person, I got to get over it.
Because it was my favorite sport growing up.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian edwards
So I just got over it.
And then now I even call it soccer.
My podcast says soccer.
I don't even say football.
But when I go to England, or just when I'm around football, soccer people, I say football.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I get it.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like if I was talking to someone, they wanted to talk about pool, but they wanted to call it bumper pool.
ian edwards
Oh, okay.
That pisses you off.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like the Women's World Cup.
They won the World Cup, and the United States did for soccer.
But it's not, you know, it's football to people like yourself.
It's the World Cup.
Like, how can they call the World Cup soccer to appease the one country that gives the least amount of fucks about the sport?
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
ian edwards
Yeah, that is weird.
That's the power of America.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
If you really stop and think about it, we made them change the name of their thing.
We're not going to get in there.
We'll call it soccer!
ian edwards
We're a part of it, but we're calling it this.
joe rogan
Do they call it football in Argentina?
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everywhere?
ian edwards
Football.
But it's football.
Just their pronunciation and spelling of it.
joe rogan
But then Australia, they're the rebels of the rebels.
They have their own rules.
unidentified
They have Australian rules football.
joe rogan
They changed the rules for more ruggedness.
You know what it was over there?
They were too used to rugby, like those New Zealand savages.
They're fucking savage.
You can't play that bitch-ass game with a helmet.
These guys are running around biting each other in the dick in the scrums.
That's the most rugged game.
ian edwards
Anything to win.
joe rogan
That's the game they should play in America.
All the CTE problems they're having, you'd have a little bit of that with anything contact sports.
You're going to get injuries.
But I think you'd have less with no gear.
ian edwards
So, both those things confuse me.
I don't know the difference between rugby and Australian rules football.
And I think in Australia, they play both.
I'd be just confused.
Like, what is the difference?
joe rogan
Well, the ball's different, right?
ian edwards
They both seem like...
joe rogan
What's a rugby ball look like?
jamie vernon
They literally look about the same.
joe rogan
Is it no different?
jamie vernon
There is slight differences, but they look about the same.
It's like a football with more rounded edges, and it's a little more plump.
joe rogan
As far as I know, they could be playing with a round ball.
I literally don't even know.
ian edwards
I have no idea what a rugby ball is.
It kind of looks like an American...
Oh, that's it?
It's a cross between a basketball and a football.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like a fat football.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's an Australian-used football, though.
It's similar to a rugby ball.
Okay, so that's not a rugby ball, but it's close.
So there's probably like football, Australian rules football, and then rugby ball, right?
What is the rules?
What can they do?
ian edwards
Yeah, what are they doing different?
joe rogan
It's also sometimes referred to in the media as the round ball game.
What?
The world game and international football.
Australian football referred to as Australian football.
jamie vernon
I think it's a little more like fluid.
The game doesn't stop as much.
There's less stoppages.
They kind of just keep going.
joe rogan
Okay, it says it's a little more fluid where players can pretty much run around where they choose.
They still have a specific end side goal to score, but it's more open in between.
Another main difference is that the game is played in 20 minute quarters, not halves.
unidentified
Hmm.
jamie vernon
I told you a couple of while ago, they're adding three versus three basketball to the Olympics coming up, and the way that that game is played is so different than traditional basketball.
It's just a running clock.
Once you score, you just take it out, throw it back, run across the line, go score again.
It's a very fast-paced game.
ian edwards
So they're bringing like park ball to the Olympics?
jamie vernon
I think so.
Apparently, it's very popular in Europe.
It's not like that big three basketball that sort of started here.
It's not that same basketball, but...
It's popular, I guess.
joe rogan
When Will Harris was in here, Will Harris has this show called Anatomy of a Fighter.
He's a videographer.
And he went to Dagestan to watch Khabib Nurmagomedov, who's the UFC lightweight champion, who's a fucking animal, man.
He's one of the rare, undefeated, top-of-the-food-chain fighters in MMA. They play a game of basketball in Dagestan where they don't dribble the ball at all.
They just, like, wrestle each other to the ground.
And they even choke each other and get each other in arm bars and shit.
ian edwards
So they're just practicing jujitsu.
joe rogan
Yeah, well look, they don't dribble at all.
They're basically playing like a football type, but they're shooting at the basketball hoop.
But they throw each other to the ground, and Khabib will fucking hip toss dudes, because they have it right next to the wrestling mats.
Uh-huh.
Part of what they filmed was he was in a wrestling match with this dude when they were trying to take a player out.
So he grabs a hold of this dude, and when he grabs a hold of this dude, he drags him to the ground and gets him in a back, gets him in an arm bar, gets him in a rear naked choke.
It's crazy.
He makes the guy tap, and then he doesn't let him up.
Like, here it goes.
Look, look.
He grabs them.
They're allowed to do this.
The guy slips through.
They're grappling.
First of all, they're grappling on the fucking hardwood floor.
Full blast grappling.
And then he takes them to the ground.
This is serious.
This isn't playing around.
He takes the dudes back.
Now they're on the floor again.
They're on the hardwood floor.
And he's fucking choking him out.
ian edwards
He just Conor McGregor'd him.
joe rogan
And then they keep going, and as they keep going, he's getting the guy in an armbar later.
ian edwards
This is...
joe rogan
Like, look at this.
Look at this.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
ian edwards
This is basketball for white dudes that can't dribble.
That's all this is.
Just like, how do we...
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I think this is the most effective way to use wrestling with basketball.
I think they just wanted to make something that's like a really hard workout that's very competitive.
I don't know if other people are doing this in Europe or if this is just something that Dagestan figured out.
But look, these are some of the most savage fighters in the UFC. It does look fun.
It looks fun as far.
Unless you get Khabib on your back.
jamie vernon
They just don't have access to a very good basketball and pump to keep it pumped up and their floor is probably not good to be dribbled on so they just figured out a better game to play instead of dealing with that fucked up ball in court.
joe rogan
But that's a ridiculous way Jamie, these are world-class fighters.
They travel all over the world.
They have all sorts of gym equipment.
They have mats.
They have weights.
They have everything.
jamie vernon
That ball's missing skin on it.
That's a shitty basketball.
I've played with lots of basketballs in my life.
You would never even try to dribble that.
ian edwards
It's like American football slash jujitsu slash basketball.
jamie vernon
If you have a dead spot on a court, you almost don't even want to play on it.
joe rogan
But dude, they could get another ball.
They all have brand new sneakers on and leggings and shit.
I mean, it's not like Dak stands in the middle of nowhere.
They get goods there.
jamie vernon
They could, but they might just like this game better.
They're just like, fuck it, we're playing this because we're all better at this.
joe rogan
That, I think, I think it helps them.
I'm saying that your leg made you go one-on-one with the basket.
Maybe I did not understand the rules.
They make them up.
But you said it was like I was swearing for no reason.
Oh, they're like, they're talking out a dispute.
ian edwards
How do you argue with Khabib?
joe rogan
You can!
That's the top dog.
That's the beast of the fucking crew.
But yeah, it's weird what people get really into.
Like cricket.
Cricket is one that the Europeans brought over to India, right?
ian edwards
They brought it to the West Indies.
They brought it to any country that they colonize.
And all those countries love it and they play it.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's a colonization game.
ian edwards
Yeah.
And then now they have like, almost like the equivalent of like World Cups of Cricket in all the countries.
Australia is a big cricket country because they, you know, it's a big thing.
The West Indies and everything.
joe rogan
Strange looking game too, right?
ian edwards
It's just boring.
Takes days to play sometimes.
joe rogan
Days?
ian edwards
Yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
For a week, I think, sometimes.
joe rogan
For one game?
How many hours a day?
ian edwards
Too many.
It's just too many, man.
It used to kill me.
It was fun to play in the backyard because you can just get some sticks and stick them in the ground and then put one across the top as a wicket.
joe rogan
This is a game I have no idea.
I couldn't even draw you a picture of what the stick looks like.
jamie vernon
It's just three sticks.
joe rogan
Three sticks?
ian edwards
Like three sticks and then you put like one on top across all of them.
When you're out, when the guy who's pitching or bowling and you swing and or if you don't swing and it hits the wicket and they knock over, come kind of like bowling sticks, then you're out.
joe rogan
What?
ian edwards
Yeah.
And then you get points that you hit.
joe rogan
You're trying to protect the wicket?
ian edwards
Protect the wicket and hit it so far that you can run from stick to stick, you and your partner who's batting at the other end.
And then the most amount of runs you can get, that just adds to the score.
joe rogan
Can I see that?
I want to see that.
That sounds so weird.
Pull up a video of dudes playing cricket.
I don't think I've ever watched a game.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
I think I've seen highlights on television maybe.
ian edwards
It's funny that you've never seen cricket.
joe rogan
No, no chance.
I don't know.
See, I'm already stunned by their outfits.
So this guy doesn't have nothing on.
Some dudes are covered up in gear.
ian edwards
Those are the guys with the helmets.
Because the ball is hard as fuck.
I got hit by a cricket ball by the strongest kid in school one time.
And I was like, I'm done.
unidentified
The way they throw it is so weird.
jamie vernon
The guys in the outfield don't have anything because they just catch the ball barehanded, right?
ian edwards
Yeah, barehanded, yeah.
And I feel like they should have mitts.
joe rogan
Look how he throws it.
He runs at you.
He runs and literally tries to hit you with the ball.
That's crazy.
And does it have to hit the ground first?
Is that the deal?
ian edwards
Yeah.
I think, yeah, it does.
It does, from what I remember.
joe rogan
Because it seems like it.
But the dude, like, runs across the line.
This is a bullshit game.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a 100% bullshit game.
I'm not a big fan of baseball.
Me neither.
I think it's kind of boring.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
My wrestling coach used to say, it's not a sport, it's a skills game.
It's a skills game.
It's not a sport.
You ever see a baseball player so fucking tired he had to push himself?
ian edwards
I had to push himself.
joe rogan
Coach Murphy.
Wrestling coach in high school.
Also the same guy tried to get me to play football when I weighed 135 pounds.
ian edwards
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Crazy asshole.
Yeah.
ian edwards
Maybe he saw some natural athlete shit in you.
joe rogan
No, I just thought I was mean.
If I was mean, I'd be good.
If I was mean when I was a wrestler, I'd be good.
jamie vernon
You'd put him in a great safety, probably, just fucking people up.
joe rogan
I would get crippled.
That's what would have happened.
We had a dude on our team.
His name was Bob Baker.
He weighed a good, solid 300 pounds.
unidentified
Oh, for real?
joe rogan
He was so big.
Maybe not.
Maybe I'm exaggerating, but he was 250. He was our heavyweight.
And I was like, how is he and me?
How are we going to play the same game where he could just run me over?
Get the fuck out of here.
ian edwards
What did he want you to play?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It didn't get that far.
I'm like, you're crazy.
I was already fighting, too.
I was doing martial arts and wrestling at the same time.
I'm like, look, man, I'm not doing that.
I'm already doing shit that freaks me out.
ian edwards
Physical shit.
joe rogan
And scares the shit out of me all the time.
I don't want to get scared by even bigger people.
At least martial arts and wrestling was confined to your own weight class.
If I had to wrestle some badass dude, at least it was my own weight class.
ian edwards
Yeah, this is like the weight scale is all over the place on a football field.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
It's all over the place.
And the athleticism's all over the place, too.
You get a guy like Herschel Walker, and if you're in high school, and there's a Herschel Walker in high school, and he's on some team that you're opposing, good luck, fuckface.
There's people that are just superior.
Just superior.
There's not a damn thing you can do about it.
ian edwards
There are people like that in martial arts, like when you're all wrestling.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
There's things like that.
And outliers.
You know, there's outliers in all sports.
And a lot of it has to do, you know, with what you did growing up.
Sometimes people do things growing up like a lot of wrestlers.
Turns out, like, working on farms as a kid is a great way for wrestlers to be super strong.
ian edwards
You know who make good wrestlers?
Cowboys.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah!
ian edwards
Because they, you know, they steer, get the cow.
joe rogan
Yeah, they gotta get ahold of that fucking cow and drag it to the ground.
They do it all the time.
They practice on them.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, also, they're tough.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you're gonna get banged up a lot.
And a lot of it is, like, mental toughness.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, but people who have to...
There's a dude, Matt Hughes.
He was one of the greatest welterweights of all time.
And he was ungodly strong.
This dude from Illinois.
ian edwards
But he grew up on a farm.
He grew up on a farm wrestling animals.
I was at a party one time, right?
I was at a party one time, and he was thrown by these rappers.
I used to write on this show, Lyricist Lounge.
So one of the rappers, Master Fool, dude from Brooklyn, Was friends with these cowboys.
joe rogan
That's a great name, Master Fool.
ian edwards
Master Fool.
He was dope too.
He's like the flavor of the rappers for that group.
And he just talks to everybody.
So he became friends with these cowboys.
They came to visit LA for a week and live in the house with the rappers.
And they were real cowboys.
They have their lassoes out on the set and shit like that.
So then at the party...
This black dude with dreads got into an argument with one of the cowboys.
They were like, we're not going to fight in the house.
So everybody walks around the corner to the street.
And in five seconds, that cowboy had the black dude with dreads tied up with his pants.
Just twisted tied his body.
unidentified
Right?
ian edwards
And had him on the ground bleeding.
joe rogan
Jesus.
ian edwards
And then they was like, alright, let him up and let's start again.
And he got up and he just did it to the black dude again.
And I was like, I'll never fuck with a cowboy.
joe rogan
If a cowboy is a wrestler, if he knows how to wrestle too, both of those things, wrestlers are so goddamn strong, you don't realize until they grab you.
You realize how helpless you are.
It's a weird feeling.
And even if you can wrestle, I wasn't a good wrestler in high school, but I made it to the States And I remember when I was wrestling this kid who eventually became friends with, because he used to come to Nautilus Plus, which is a place where I was teaching Taekwondo.
And we ran into each other when we were both like...
20?
Like probably 20 or something like that.
It was really cool.
He was a really nice guy.
His name is Murphy, too.
I don't remember his first name.
That might have been his first name.
A lot of Irish people named Murphy.
It's like the most common name amongst Irish people, probably.
But I was like doing pretty good in like regional shit, but this guy got a hold of me and I was like, fuck.
It just made me realize like this is another level of wrestling.
He had been wrestling all of his life.
I'd only been doing it for a year.
He just ragdolling me around.
I was like, fuck.
ian edwards
Damn.
joe rogan
And he wasn't even like a champion.
I don't think he won the States.
And then whoever did win the States didn't win the Nationals.
So it was like there's just like tears to it.
ian edwards
Levels and shit.
joe rogan
And then like a National High School Champion ain't shit compared to a Division I NCAA All-American college wrestler.
ian edwards
Damn.
joe rogan
Those college wrestlers are off the chain.
And then they ain't shit compared to like Jordan Burroughs.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
It's not that they're not shit.
I should never say that about...
I mean, just saying that in comparison because I admire them almost more than any other athlete because there's no professional venue for what they do.
One of the more amazing things about wrestling is they go into it knowing there's no professional sport.
There's no professional, other than, you know, pro wrestling is different.
It's entertainment.
But there's no professional 135-pound wrestling, 180-pound wrestling.
There's none of that.
ian edwards
They just love it.
joe rogan
They just love it.
And it's the toughest thing to do physically.
They're fucking animals.
But then when you get to the top of the food chain, like a multiple-time world champion like Jordan Burroughs, he had a wrestling match with Ben Askren, and he just ran him over.
Just ran him over.
And Ben Askren's one of the best grapplers to ever compete in MMA, and he was also a two-time Olympian.
ian edwards
A wrestler.
joe rogan
Yes.
He ran him over.
ian edwards
Damn.
joe rogan
And Ben Askren runs most people over when he wrestles with them.
Yeah.
Levels!
ian edwards
Levels.
Levels.
joe rogan
It never ends.
ian edwards
Speaking of Askren, is he awake yet?
joe rogan
He's awake.
How's he doing?
He handled it like a champion.
ian edwards
Oh, good.
joe rogan
Yeah, he went on Ariel Helwani's show and talked about it and said, yeah, it sucks.
The guy's a douchebag.
It sucks losing to him.
You know, I don't like him.
unidentified
He said, you know, he just, what can he do?
joe rogan
He's not going to read the comments.
He's a smart guy.
He's a very smart guy.
But he took it like a man.
To be able to go and do an interview right after you get knocked out like that is very admirable.
But that's who he is.
That's how you get to be a guy who's as good a wrestler as a guy like Ben Askren.
You can handle a loss like that.
ian edwards
What do you think of the...
I forgot.
I can't pronounce the guy's name who beat him.
joe rogan
Jorge Masvidal.
ian edwards
Masvidal.
What he said after the fight.
joe rogan
He said he would smack him if he saw him at Whole Foods.
ian edwards
Yeah, I think it's just a little too much.
You won.
But I don't know their history.
joe rogan
The history is rough.
Excuse me.
It's like 10 years of them giving him a hard time.
Ben Askren giving Masvidal a hard time, according to Masvidal.
A lot of talking shit.
Which some people think is friendly and Masvidal.
Street Jesus doesn't fuck around.
You want to talk shit to Street Jesus?
He will fucking make fun of you after he flatlines you.
And that's what he did.
He flatlined him in five seconds, made him the fastest ever KO in UFC history, and then mocked him afterwards and said he would smack him if he saw him at Whole Foods.
But see, we're talking about it.
So Masvidal is smart.
This is an amazing marketing ploy.
He's become, in one fight, the most talked about fighter in the sport.
ian edwards
Because he did something in the sport that's been around for a little bit that nobody's ever done before.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Ben Askren was undefeated.
Yeah.
Undefeated.
And Masvidal comes out, flatlines like that, and talks some pretty vicious shit after the fact.
ian edwards
And even mimicked him laying on the floor, which would look scary the way he was out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Masvidal calls out, easy Conor McGregor.
I want to break his face.
Yeah, that's a rough fight.
That's a rough fight for Conor.
Masvidal is a big fellow, too.
He really belongs at 170. That's where he's fighting.
He fought at 155, but really tortured himself to make that weight.
He's a big guy.
You're talking about a guy who knocked out Cowboy Cerrone, knocked out Darren Till, knocked out Ben Askren.
I mean, he's knocking out big welterweights.
unidentified
Big welterweights.
joe rogan
Darren Till's a big welterweight.
He's big.
He's not a guy coming up from 155 pounds.
He's never making 155 pounds.
ian edwards
What's Khabib's weight?
55. 155, sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he's one weight class heavier, and he's really running into the last few fights.
He's coming into his own.
He's really becoming something special.
He had a real close decision loss to Wonderboy.
I wish I could remember how that fight went down.
I just think it was a decision.
I don't know if it was a split decision or unanimous decision, but I think it was just Wonderboy outpointed him.
I don't think there was any knockdowns or anything.
ian edwards
That was Masvidal?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was Masvidal.
But Wonderboy is a particularly difficult guy to fight, and especially for three rounds.
Pettis recently knocked him out, but Pettis just hit him with a perfect punch, and that can happen to anybody, and Pettis timed it, and Pettis is a beast.
ian edwards
Pettis is wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a wild man.
He's a fantastic fighter.
Losing to him is like, yeah, you lost to one of the best fighters ever.
And he also, he's a guy who dropped Tony Ferguson.
I mean, Pettis knocked out Cowboy Cerrone.
Pettis knocked out Joe Lozon with his crazy head kick.
Pettis is a monster.
ian edwards
Pettis is like...
He'll win one and then lose one.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's a crazy division, man.
It's filled with murderers.
Just murder after murder.
Both divisions.
55 and 70. And I think Pettis is probably going to do real good at 70 because he's healthier.
You know, I think he went down to 145 and it almost killed him.
It was just too much, man.
He had nothing in the tank.
And then Max Holloway beat him up.
He lost to...
I think he lost to Charles Oliveira.
I think so.
I might be wrong.
He might have caught Charles Oliveira.
Hmm, I don't know.
ian edwards
Pettis has the most legit crazy look in his eye that I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Pettis won, right?
He choked him, right?
That's right, that's right.
I'm confused.
He lost to someone else at 145. Who else did he lose to at 145?
jamie vernon
Max, Barboza.
joe rogan
Oh, Barboza was 55. Poirier.
Dustin Poirier?
unidentified
I don't think that was 55. And he lost to Tony.
joe rogan
Maybe that was 45?
jamie vernon
Wikipedia doesn't say what weight class they're fighting in.
ian edwards
He lost to Tony, right?
joe rogan
Yes, he lost to Tony.
He broke his hand in the fight, but it was a great fight.
ian edwards
That was a great fight.
joe rogan
He wound up dropping him.
Oh, okay.
So, Edson Barboza and then Oliveira, I think that was 55. I think Max Holloway was 45. I don't know, man.
I'm not sure, though.
And then he went back up to 55. The Dustin Poirier fight, that was...
That was he got injured.
And that was at 55. That was a catch weight.
unidentified
They fought.
joe rogan
He was at 148 for Max.
jamie vernon
He missed the weight.
joe rogan
Oh, he missed the fight with Max.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's trying to get down to 45. So featherweight debut was against Oliveira.
So he submitted Oliveira in his featherweight debut.
Yeah.
So he had two fights at that weight, and that weight was torturous for him.
He didn't make it for the Max Holloway fight.
And then Jim Miller's definitely a 55-pound fight, and all the other ones are 55, until he got to Stephen Thompson, and that was the last one.
Wonder Boy, that was at ultraweight.
That was an amazing fight.
I mean, I think sometimes these guys, it's just too much, man.
It's just too much.
He beat Michael Chiesa.
It says he beat Chiesa.
And Chiesa's another one.
He was fighting at 55 and now he moved up to 70. Yeah, that ended up being a catchweight fight.
jamie vernon
Chiesa missed.
joe rogan
These fucking guys, man.
They're killing themselves with that weight cutting.
ian edwards
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Imagine if that was the case with soccer.
Before a soccer game, you had a certain amount of guaranteed weight on the field.
Imagine, Ian, whatever position it is, you have to cut down to 130 pounds.
You'd be like, fuck!
So you had to drain your body in a sauna, and then everybody weighs, and then everybody rehydrates, and then the next day you play this grueling-ass game.
That would be ridiculous, right?
ian edwards
And fighting is the most tiring thing.
joe rogan
It would totally compromise the game, wouldn't it?
ian edwards
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Imagine football players had to do that.
Imagine football players only had like, okay guys, whatever the team is, it has to weigh 4,000 pounds.
That's it.
No more.
And so you have to decide, hey, Bob can't cut lower than 260. We checked his body fat.
Joe, you're going to have to get down to 180. Jamie?
jamie vernon
When we were kids playing football, we had to weigh in, and that sort of happened.
Really?
Yeah, because if you were a certain weight, you had to have stripes on your helmet, and it means you could only play on the line.
You couldn't be carrying the ball because no kids could tackle you.
You'd fuck them all up.
So there was definitely a limit.
I remember I did have to...
Wear the trash bag and cut five pounds.
I don't fucking know how much I weighed, but it was so I could be a tight end and catch the ball because I was on the border.
joe rogan
Dude, that was so bad for kids.
I had a friend in high school, my friend Steven.
All of his brother's like 6'1", 6'2".
He's like 5'6".
He never grew.
And it was because all throughout high school and junior high school he was cutting weight in wrestling.
I guarantee you it had something to do with it.
Everyone else's family is tall.
And he was always tired.
ian edwards
Or his dad is not.
He's a real dad.
joe rogan
No, his brothers look just like him.
He was always tired.
He'd be walking around the hallways like this.
Because he would do wrestling camps.
He would do the whole thing.
So he's always wrestling.
He was always exhausted.
Always.
It's a terrible thing for kids.
The fact they still have kids do that is fucking madness.
It's madness.
People didn't know any better.
My parents didn't even ask me.
When I got on the wrestling team, they didn't ask me, you're not cutting weight, are you?
They didn't even ask me.
They had no idea.
Did you just listen to the coach?
Coach tells you to lose weight, you gotta lose weight.
Fuck.
It's so bad for the body.
It's so bad for your brain, too, because it dehydrates your brain.
And then you're in class.
You're trying to listen in class.
It's worse than being hungover.
ian edwards
That's true, because all they tell us to do now is drink water and stay hydrated.
And then you're doing something that's like you can't put anything in your system.
You're just trying to drain it out.
It doesn't affect you mentally.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When you get dehydrated, your brain works like shit.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Like, they say that's one of the things that happens to people in the desert.
When they start dying of thirst, they can't think straight.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
They don't make good decisions.
ian edwards
Yeah, I've been fatigued, like, at soccer practice, and you just, like, you'll be wearing an opposing player's shirt, and just from fatigue, I'll just pass it to you.
Just to not have to have the responsibility of this ball.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian edwards
You know what I'm saying?
For real, it's like, fuck it.
And I'm trying to make the team at the time, and I'm making just blatant mistakes.
I'm just so tired, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fatigue makes cowards of men.
That's Vince Lombardi's line.
ian edwards
It did that to me in college.
jamie vernon
Were you following Adam Greentree at all, his story?
unidentified
Yes.
jamie vernon
At this point in the video, he said he hadn't had water for like 18 hours, and he's still climbing uphill and needs to find it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Great.
That's insane.
joe rogan
Well, he had to get rescued.
I don't know if he broke his arm.
I haven't chatted with him, but he thinks he broke his arm too.
If you go to my friend Adam Greentree's Instagram, adam.greentree, he documented this hunt that he went in for a thing called a Himalayan tar that lives in New Zealand.
And it lives in these alpine mountain areas.
I don't know if it's alpine.
These mountain, dangerous, slippery mountain areas.
And he got stuck out there and he had to get rescued and fell into the frozen glacier river and was freezing to death.
Had to climb into his sleeping bag, soaking wet.
Yeah, really dangerous.
Fell, thought he broke his arm.
Yeah, was worried that he might have broke his leg.
jamie vernon
Did he pull out his camera and film half of it too, probably?
joe rogan
I don't think he filmed much.
He filmed some of it but he was having a really hard time and then he had to get rescued and he had to go somewhere where the helicopter could land so they could winch him and carry him up and rescue him and take him to the hospital.
Fucking dangerous shit.
There's a lot of these guys like Adam who's a good friend of mine who loves to go on these Like vision quest solo adventures.
So he'll go to the mountains and camp out by himself for 28 days.
And he films it and puts it up on Instagram.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Where he's talking to himself and like hunting elk in these like mountain areas and Last year, that's his campsite.
Last year he had a one-on-one encounter with a grizzly bear.
ian edwards
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
And he had a pistol with him.
And he's documenting him trying to hold off this mama grizzly who's standing up in the background.
She made several charges at him.
And he didn't even know that the pistol was jammed.
The ammunition was the wrong size.
So the lever, like, when you cock it, it couldn't fit another bullet in there.
So he had...
A dummy gun.
He's pointing a gun that's not even real.
So if you pull the trigger, nothing would have happened.
So then he realized that that was a problem when he, I guess he tried to fire it to make sure it does work or something.
So then he had to realize that he could put one bullet in the chamber, but he couldn't reload.
He could reload.
ian edwards
Like musket style.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So he had one bullet.
Essentially one bullet.
He had the wrong ammo for the pistol.
ian edwards
And you only get one shot with one of those charges.
joe rogan
You don't even get one, man.
When they're running at you, you are shitting your pants.
You can't believe it.
You're going to miss half the bullets.
If you have ten bullets, if you hit it once, you're lucky.
It's madness.
Because you're not going to shoot when it's ten feet away from you.
You're going to shoot as it's running towards you.
And I don't think you're going to be able to hold that position.
It's too crazy.
ian edwards
What is the bear doing when it's like making charges at him but not coming at him?
joe rogan
Trying to get you to get the fuck away from its babies.
Almost always.
Almost always.
Get the fuck away from my babies.
It's almost always a woman.
A female bear, rather.
ian edwards
Protecting their coats.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't fuck around.
Some asshole that might be a hunter.
You might be hunting bear.
You might want to shoot my baby.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You might just be, you know, they don't think of humans as a good thing.
Humans are dangerous.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
It's not our fucking word.
ian edwards
They're predators.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
I'm surprised bears don't attack humans just more often based on that.
Like, how do they distinguish who's a hunter and who's not?
joe rogan
They don't think of hunters as being something they should attack.
They think they should get the fuck out of there.
Because when they see guns go off and then a bullet hits a bear right next to them, that bear kind of explodes and screams in agony and falls to the ground.
They just want to get the fuck out of there and not have it happen to them.
So if they've seen that ever in their life, they've seen a bear get shot, which if you're in places where bears get hunted, it's very likely that they have seen that.
They just run away.
They smell people, they run.
They want to get the fuck out of there.
ian edwards
So bears look at humans like predators.
joe rogan
Only in places where people hunt bears.
The problem is when people don't hunt bears, bears have zero fear of humans, and then bears wind up killing people.
This is what you see in Yellowstone because those bears are grizzly bears.
And the only place in America where you can hunt grizzly bears is in Alaska.
And in Alaska, they have a different attitude.
They're starting to open up grizzly bear seasons.
I think there was one they were trying to do in Wyoming, and there might have been one somewhere else where they were trying to do.
They do it in Canada, but they recently banned it in British Columbia.
And the reason why they banned it is not because the people that live near the grizzly bears, they're encouraging it because these things are fucking big and dangerous.
It's the people that live in the cities are the most people.
Like the biggest population center in British Columbia is Vancouver, right?
It's all urban.
So that's the giant mass of people.
But the people that live like where my friend Mike Hawkeridge lives, those people don't have a say.
And those are the ones who live with bears.
They have wolves and bears all over the place up there.
And the black bears, which you can hunt, those are not even dangerous.
I mean, they're dangerous but not dangerous compared to grizzlies.
Grizzlies are fucking dangerous.
ian edwards
So those are liberals in those cities making those decisions?
joe rogan
It could be even conservative people that are animal lovers and just don't understand what a bear is.
The idea is that they want to stop trophy hunting because you see Cecil the lion and that kind of shit.
It's disgusting.
And it is in a lot of ways.
Wanting to go and just shoot these things just to stuff them and put them on your walls.
There's a lot of weird shit to them.
I totally understand your feelings on it.
I get it.
But the grizzly bear thing is a different thing.
ian edwards
Those are the people that were raised on the cartoon and they're like, stop killing these cartoons.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
The cartoon version of the animal that they saw growing up, so they have no idea.
joe rogan
Well, even in Africa, the exact area where Cecil the lion was killed, they had to recently kill 200 lions.
Because the lions, yeah, because so many lions had survived because there was no hunting there.
ian edwards
Because they came back, they came back up.
joe rogan
It's so weird.
It's not good.
It's not ideal.
The situation's not ideal because it's so bizarre and twisted.
The animals survive because people pay to kill them.
model in these encaged areas.
So they have like 10,000 acres or some shit like that.
They put it in fences, right?
And then inside those fences, you have zebras and giraffes and all these different animals.
You can come over there and pay and you can go and hunt these animals.
That's a lot of the area.
So this guy, that Cecil guy, who shot that lion, he paid like $50,000 to go and hunt a lion.
And it's probably one a day, two a day, three a day.
So there's hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of revenue coming in.
This revenue comes in for these guys that want to kill lions and what they do is they use it to raise more lions and they use it to pay professional hunting.
These people call professional hunters are basically game wardens to keep out poachers and to make sure that these animals don't get like rhinos don't get their horns chopped off and murdered just for their horns.
Elephants for their tusks, things along those lines.
So they need to hire people to protect against poaching because Look, in Africa, there's a lot of people that, especially in these areas where they have these hunting areas, these vast rural areas, people are extremely poor.
And they want animals just to eat.
They're going to call that poaching.
So then it gets even squirrely there.
It's not an ideal situation by any stretch of the imagination.
But because no hunters are coming in now because of all the bad press after the cease of the lion shed, they had to kill 200 lions instead of murder them.
ian edwards
Because that many got born and grew up in...
joe rogan
Because they have a real unnatural situation over there.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Where they're breeding these lions.
And then they put them in the, like, every place does it a different way.
And some places are free range where there's no fence at all.
That is true.
There's some places that are like that.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
But some places, it's all fenced in.
The whole thing's fenced in.
It's like a zoo.
ian edwards
It's like a fake wild.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
It's a fake.
They took the wild and they made it fake.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
They just put a fence around the wild.
And then they kept introducing food.
And then they have lions that they keep in very specific areas.
And they feed them.
And then they'll transport them to the middle.
And then the hunter comes that day.
And they tell him where the lion is.
And the guy goes out there.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
Shoots the lion.
And he poses with the lion.
It's perverse.
ian edwards
Yeah, that's kind of bananas.
joe rogan
Perverse.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
On the other hand, these animals that are in there, particularly like the antelopes and black bucks and Neil guy and all these crazy wild fucking antlered creatures, they're in greater numbers than they've ever been.
So it's so twisted.
It's like the numbers are so high because people want to come in and pay to hunt them.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But then the numbers are high so people can hunt them.
It's not like so that they can keep the whole wildlife ecology free and roam and look how vibrant Africa is now that we've stepped in with all these conservation dollars.
Not really.
No, it's fenced in.
And then people drive up to a spot, get out, boom!
Take a picture.
It's weird.
ian edwards
We fuck up everything.
Great job.
joe rogan
It's weird.
ian edwards
Great job, people.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're the best.
jamie vernon
I'm reading an explanation of a person that has gone to this park in Zimbabwe to go see the lions.
And they've done this in the past and they went back more recently.
And this is hilarious.
Read this thing here.
joe rogan
Then our host gave us our safety orientation.
He told us to speak to the lions in a calm voice, approach slowly, and to pet them on their backs only.
Then our host handed out skinny sticks to each of us.
He explained that if a lion approached us in a threatening manner, we should swish the stick back and forth in the grass to distract them.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
I'm going to have to eat you.
ian edwards
There's a...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
It says that they thought they were going to go see, like, child, baby, you know, cubs?
ian edwards
In a cage?
jamie vernon
Yeah, but it's definitely not.
They're like 18 months old, almost, you know, a little bit older.
joe rogan
Oh, so they're adolescent lions?
jamie vernon
Yeah, like this big.
ian edwards
I saw this video.
There's a tribe, I don't know what part of Africa, but if a cheater or a cat hunts down an animal and kills it, these people from this tribe, they track the hunt, and then once the animal or the cat kills...
The food, then they'll scare off the cat.
joe rogan
I saw that.
ian edwards
And take it.
The sticks.
And they have these little sticks, yeah.
And then the fucking cheetahs and whatever run away from them.
And I'm like, it's so crazy.
joe rogan
I saw that.
I watched a video of that on someone's Instagram.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you gotta do what you gotta do when you're hungry.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
You take a chance.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, unless they have a really good weapon, it's hard to get an antelope.
You gotta get fucking close.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
But a cheetah can just chase it down.
ian edwards
You would think it's just crazy that a human could take a cheater's food.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is crazy.
Yeah, they do it with lions too.
They do it with spears.
They run up on lions with spears.
I've seen that too.
Like female lions just roaring at people while they drag away their food.
ian edwards
Just robbing a lion.
She goes back to the house and her husband's like, where's the food at?
I got robbed.
joe rogan
Well, what we do here in cities is so recent and so unnatural.
It's not like anything that anybody else has ever done before in terms of like human beings up until about 10,000 years ago.
There's never been shit like this.
ian edwards
Supermarkets and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, all of it.
And no interaction at all with nature.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
You know, our interaction with nature is reserved to, you know, squirrels, fucking pigeons and shit.
ian edwards
Birds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Having a dog.
joe rogan
Even fucking pigeons are weird.
They're brought over here as food.
ian edwards
Oh, they were?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're everywhere.
You could eat pigeons.
They're delicious, apparently.
I never had one.
ian edwards
I don't think a lot of people, like, they just don't look at pigeons as food.
joe rogan
No.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Most people.
Yeah.
99%, but they have pigeon seasons.
Actually, maybe they don't have a season.
Pigeons might be like wild pigs, where they're considered an invasive species.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They're not supposed to be here.
They're not from here.
They brought them over here for squab You ever heard like squab when people eat squab no squab is like a fancy word for a young pigeon Right.
It's like lamb lamb is a fancy word for a young sheep How does a pigeon taste you had it never had?
ian edwards
Oh never had it.
joe rogan
No, I had squirrel.
ian edwards
How's that?
joe rogan
Is if someone told me it was chicken I would believe him.
ian edwards
Oh Oh, for real?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It tastes a lot like that, which is the most cliche shit to say ever.
It tastes like chicken.
ian edwards
How do you know if you catch a squirrel if it's rabid on that?
If you cook it, you don't catch anything, or will you?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
I don't know the answer to that.
Maybe rabies would die at a certain temperature.
Squirrels are not, well, ground squirrels.
I was going to say squirrels are not omnivores.
They're herbivores.
But ground squirrels, I'm pretty sure eat meat.
Because I've seen videos of ground squirrels eating a mouse.
It's fucked up.
It seems wrong.
ian edwards
Anything eating a mouse is wrong.
Like when you feed a mouse to a snake or some shit like that.
joe rogan
Well, it's even more wrong because it's holding in its hands.
Dogs and cats that are currently vaccinated and kept under observation for 45 days...
Oh, can you get rabies from eating squirrel?
Small mammals such as squirrels, rats, mice, hamsters, kitty pigs, gerbils, chipmunks, rabbits, and hares are almost never found to be infected with rabies and have not been known to cause rabies amongst humans in the United States.
Okay.
So rats can't give you rabies.
That's interesting.
ian edwards
Rat eating is about to go up.
jamie vernon
I saw a video yesterday.
ian edwards
You're good, y'all.
jamie vernon
Biting the head off of a rat.
It's fucking nasty.
joe rogan
What was biting the head off a rat?
A guy.
ian edwards
A guy?
jamie vernon
A man.
joe rogan
Where?
jamie vernon
An Asian man.
Chewing the whole fucking thing right off an episode of Fear Factor or something.
joe rogan
It was raw?
ian edwards
That's funny.
jamie vernon
I think it was dead.
You didn't see it moving before, but it was fucking sick.
ian edwards
You and them being able to do Fear Factor in certain countries, they'd be like, where's the fear?
joe rogan
Right.
ian edwards
They'd be like, where's the...
unidentified
What?
ian edwards
We eat that.
joe rogan
I got a lot of friends that are Filipino, especially back when I was doing Fear Factor, because I was playing a lot of pool.
Some of the best...
Pool players are Filipinos.
It's huge in pool.
With pool, rather.
But they were laughing at me because they serve balut.
They're like, we love balut.
Balut is this weird duck embryo.
It's like a delicacy over there.
But people on Fear Factor were terrified of it.
And these people were like, no, we pay for that.
We like it.
It's great.
ian edwards
Look at those people wasting the balut or whatever it is.
joe rogan
They eat the beak and everything, man.
Balut is weird.
It's an embryo.
It's like a little baby duck.
It's very strange.
I wonder if you'd even be able to do Fear Factor today.
I mean, I know Ludacris is still doing it, but they're doing a different kind of version of it, right?
ian edwards
Have you watched one of those episodes just to check it out, no?
joe rogan
No, that's like watching your ex-girlfriend get banged.
Do you really want to see that?
ian edwards
Banged badly?
Wouldn't you want to watch her get banged badly, see that I was better?
joe rogan
It's weird to take over someone's gig, because if someone did it for so long, they had a certain style, how they did it.
ian edwards
Please pimp my fear factor.
Ludicrous.
joe rogan
Right.
Who did Pimp My Ride?
ian edwards
What's his name?
unidentified
Exhibit.
ian edwards
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Whatever happened to that dude?
jamie vernon
I think he's still acting and doing stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was the Pimp My Ride guy.
ian edwards
Yeah, it was a huge show.
joe rogan
How the fuck did that show go away?
ian edwards
I know, that feels like I could just keep going.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like one of them pawn shop shows.
They never have to end.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just keep paawning shit.
ian edwards
Yeah.
Do it in different countries.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, why would they end Pimp?
Maybe Exhibit was like, done.
I can't deal with these people and their cars anymore.
jamie vernon
Start making all those other shows.
There's tons of car shows now on all those other channels.
Pimp and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's the best name.
Pimp My Ride?
That's the best name.
Wouldn't you say that's the best name?
jamie vernon
I think most of those are undrivable.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's been a lot of Reddit things where people are asking for like, have you ever been on Pimp My Ride?
Tell us about your experience or whatever.
I'm like, They did so much shit to those cars that would be like, hey, by the way, when this is over, go ahead and take half that shit out so you can legally drive it down the fucking freeway.
Not every time, but some of the times they had to do that.
ian edwards
If you had one of those cars now from Pimp My Ride, it would be a huge collector's item.
It should be worth a lot of money if you still kept it.
jamie vernon
I think they started bringing it back, but...
Let me see.
Here's an article.
What really happened to the cars from Pimp My Ride?
Um...
I definitely remember a couple of the guys said that they had to stay in contact with a few of the in-house mechanics because they had to keep getting something fixed.
ian edwards
Fixed, right.
I believe that.
jamie vernon
They had to constantly drive back to Hollywood or wherever the fuck it was.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
jamie vernon
I'm trying to find...
joe rogan
Well, a lot of those shows, like my buddy Bud, who's been on the podcast before, he used to have that show...
Fuck, what was it called?
What was that show where they would steal someone's car...
And rebuild.
It would make them think their car was stolen.
I can't remember his fucking show.
God damn it.
It was Chip Foose.
Chip Foose would redesign their car and they would get this fucking amazing car.
What the fuck was the name of that show?
Bud Brutzman, he used to have the show Rides.
That was a show where they built my 1970 Barracuda.
jamie vernon
Overhauling?
joe rogan
Overhauling, that's it.
Shout out to Bud and Adrian, who was the host.
They would take a car and they'd do it in a really short amount of time.
And then after it was over, they would have to...
Tighten it all up and when they do a build a car they have a shakedown period We're like they drive it for a few hundred miles to make sure there's nothing goes wrong Everything's working, right?
It's like this period of time to make sure that everything's dialed in they don't get a chance to do that in a week, right?
So that's probably what they're talking about.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is a Pin My Ride thing.
I'm reading through it.
Some of the contestants said they had to completely just play the game of this is a TV show, exaggerate.
Let's dump a bunch of cigarette butts in your car to make it look shittier than it is.
Hey, when we show it to you, please be fucking happy when you see this so we can have a good reaction for TV kind of thing.
joe rogan
That's disappointing.
God damn it, Pin My Ride.
How dare you.
That's every show, though.
ian edwards
Yeah, that's every show.
Any, like, HGTV show.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ian edwards
Or just hoarders.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Like, we're going to have to hoard your place up even more.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, preppers, those people?
ian edwards
Preppers.
joe rogan
Probably make them extra crazy.
ian edwards
I haven't seen preppers.
What's that about?
joe rogan
People were prepping for the apocalypse.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Listen, we know you're crazy, but we're going to make you look even crazier.
Even crazier.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
ian edwards
Or intervention.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting to me?
It's typically right-wing people.
Who are in favor of, like, if you think about anytime someone passes a law that's bad for the environment, right?
If they want to drill in Alaska, if they want to do something overseas, it's usually, I mean, it might be generalizing, but usually thought to be a right-wing thing.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
It's like more concern for business than concern for the environment.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
People that are on the left are the people that are always like the tree huggers.
Those are the environmentalists.
So the people that are like radical environmentalists, you would almost always think of as being people on the left.
But the people that are prepping for shit going south are almost always on the right.
The right-wing people are the ones who are prepping for solar...
ian edwards
Think the world is going to come to an end.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Those are the ones that are carrying bullets and they're fucking digging tunnels in their backyard.
ian edwards
So you know what you're doing.
You know you're destroying the earth by digging for oil and all that shit.
joe rogan
But it's not them.
It's usually the bigwigs.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
ian edwards
But they're voting and they're in favor of all those decisions that the bigwigs make.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Inadvertently.
Because the bigwigs have connected themselves to Jesus.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
That's what they did.
That's the wise thing they did.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
To good, old-fashioned family values and Jesus.
They figured a way to connect it to a thing that everybody can't argue against.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
The connected right-wing ideology with God.
And left-wing with abortion.
Killing babies.
The line in the sand's been drawn, Ian.
ian edwards
If you're prepping for the end of the world, right?
You gotta secretly be hoping for the end of the world.
joe rogan
Maybe a little bit of end.
Just to try your shit.
ian edwards
Yeah, just to try your shit.
And to say, I wasn't crazy.
joe rogan
Right.
ian edwards
And wasting my time.
So you gotta kinda be rooting for the end of the world.
Like, you don't wanna, you know, do all that shit in vain.
joe rogan
Right.
ian edwards
You know what I mean?
So that's kind of a weirdness to those type of people.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
ian edwards
You know what I mean?
Like, you started doing comedy, and there's people like, you're never going to make it.
You want to make it to be like, you were wrong, and to just the relief of knowing you were right.
joe rogan
Well, I think that's a problem with cops.
I think cops want to shoot people sometimes.
They have a gun, and they almost want someone to do something fucked up so they can shoot them.
Not every cop.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
But there are certain people that should not be cops.
ian edwards
Right, exactly.
joe rogan
And those people that become cops, and it does happen, and we all know, and I'm a 100% supporter of law enforcement, but even law enforcement, they know it.
They don't want to be surrounded by some weak fuck who's also a cop who wants to shoot people.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
But there's people out there that want to shoot people.
And you give them a gun, if you give someone a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
ian edwards
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
I remember the video, and this was a white cop shooting a white guy.
joe rogan
The Arizona one?
ian edwards
I think it was in a hotel lobby.
Yeah, and that guy is like, how did he become a cop?
joe rogan
How did he not go to jail?
ian edwards
Yes.
joe rogan
They let him off the hook for that one.
ian edwards
They always kind of let them off the hook.
They'll give a slap on the wrist and just get them out of there.
joe rogan
And the instructions he was giving this guy was telling him to keep your hands away from your waist because his pants were falling down.
ian edwards
Yeah, and the guy was saying that to him too.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's just crying and crawling towards him.
ian edwards
Like helplessly.
joe rogan
The guy reaches because his pants fell down and grabs a hold of his pants to pull him up and the guy fills his back up with bullets.
Shoots him in the back, on the floor, crawling.
The guy's of no threat.
ian edwards
Was yelling, making the situation even more chaotic.
joe rogan
He's also telling the guy to do something.
Why are you making a move?
Just tell him to lie down, put his hands behind his back, you handcuff him, and then he was ordering the guy to crawl towards him.
ian edwards
Towards him, yeah.
joe rogan
It doesn't even make sense.
jamie vernon
Did you see this video earlier this week?
This was from July 1st.
joe rogan
Yes.
jamie vernon
This is crazy.
joe rogan
This is what's called suicide by cop.
This guy was coming towards this cop screaming with a knife and the cop was begging him to please stop, please stop.
This is after they already shot him, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
But meanwhile, he winds up tackling this fucking guy.
This is what's crazy.
This guy's already been shot and he turns on this cop and tackles him right here.
Tackles him.
Look at this.
The guy's filled with bullets, and the guy's reaching for his gun.
He gets his back, and he takes him down.
And then this guy's not even close enough.
ian edwards
He doesn't have the knife anymore, does he?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
I can't tell if it's in his hand right there.
It's hard to see.
ian edwards
Did you see the video of the black cop walking towards the guy with the machete?
joe rogan
Yes, I did see that.
ian edwards
And he just like walked right into it and just parried and flipped him over?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
That shit was crazy.
joe rogan
That is crazy.
I saw another one that Eddie Bravo sent me of a, it's not a cop one, but two dudes are having a conversation and this guy's got his hand behind the back.
And he pulls a knife out of his pocket, and the guy doesn't even see, and he just, in the middle of the conversation, just sticks him in the stomach.
And the guy's standing there, he moves back, and he's like holding his stomach, he can't believe it, and the guy comes towards him again, follows him, and the guy who got stabbed winds up knocking the dude out.
The guy's coming towards him with the knife again, saying, I'll stab you again, and the guy hits him with the left hook and rocks him, and then hits him with the right hand and knocks him out.
ian edwards
And these were regular dudes?
joe rogan
Regular dudes.
Looks like regular dudes.
But the dude who got stabbed knew how to fight.
Luckily for him.
But he still might die.
ian edwards
Knew how to fight and take a stab.
joe rogan
In the stomach?
That is fucking very dangerous, man.
Yeah, man.
Very dangerous.
Yeah.
What were we talking about?
What are you doing?
jamie vernon
I'm just looking at...
I'm trying to find a video of that guy getting stabbed.
joe rogan
Nah, let's not.
Oh, it's just crazy.
There's so much.
There's just so much.
ian edwards
Yeah, it's a lot of shit.
joe rogan
There's so much to just freak you out.
ian edwards
I don't even look at some of the bad stuff anymore.
A lot of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian edwards
Like I saw at the beginning of that video when it came out like last week.
I ain't watching this.
I just like turned it off.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't watch that.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's so many videos.
You'll get convinced that that's happening everywhere in the world 24 hours a day.
It'll fuck your head up.
ian edwards
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's easy to get freaked out.
ian edwards
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of freakable shit out there.
joe rogan
There is.
This is as good a spot as any to talk about this.
I want to make sure I clarify something because there was an operation.
This is a guy who was a billionaire diamond guy who wound up getting a dick enlargement operation and he died because of the anesthesia.
And it was in another country.
And we pulled out...
We were saying, somehow or another, it got connected to this company that does that in the United States.
It had nothing...
Phenoma?
jamie vernon
Yeah, the article I had said like...
He was getting a similar surgery in that the Pneuma only happens in the U.S., but he was getting something done in Europe, so it was different.
joe rogan
Well, they reached out to me to explain.
First of all, the guy died from anesthesia.
You could die from anesthesia from any operation.
It had nothing to do with the penis enlargement operation, to use the more correct term, dick enlargement.
But he didn't die from that.
And that's just as safe as getting your nose fixed or getting your knee meniscus operated on.
It's just any surgery where you have anesthesia carries a certain amount of risk.
But apparently this dick thing works.
They actually can grow your dick bigger now.
ian edwards
You're risking your life.
joe rogan
It better work.
Well, you're risking your life if you go to the dentist.
Anytime you get put under, anything you're doing with anesthesia, there's a very small chance that something could go wrong.
But it had nothing to do with this dick operation, so I just wanted to make sure that people know that if you look this up, I don't want any incorrect assumptions to be out there, and I carry no ill will towards these people that make this, and apparently it works.
So I just want everybody to know that.
ian edwards
Yeah, he's carrying no ill will towards his company that makes dicks bigger.
joe rogan
Apparently, it actually, it's a weird thing, right?
Like, for a man to do that, there's certain taboos that are involved in even admitting that you have an issue.
Like, a little dick is a weird thing, right?
Because it's one of the rare things that's unfortunate that you can make fun of.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Like, you can't make fun of a little person.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Like, if you make fun of a person who's a, you know, you're not supposed to call them midgets.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
You're supposed to call them little people.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You make fun of a person who's a dwarf or a little person.
You're a cruel person.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
But if you make fun of a guy with a little dick...
Like, somehow or another...
ian edwards
Sometimes he deserves it or some shit.
joe rogan
That's a weird thing that women are allowed to do.
Like, you're allowed to make fun of dudes having little dicks.
ian edwards
There should be something in the same vein, yes, to protect little dick people from cruelty.
joe rogan
Right, because if you have a little pussy, that's fantastic.
Everybody's excited about that.
Isn't that crazy?
What a weird situation.
But a big dick is a sign of virility.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
So we salute you, Penuma.
That's the name of the company?
We salute you for helping men achieve larger dicks.
ian edwards
Yeah, and I almost died from anesthesia one time.
joe rogan
I thought you were going to say from a dick in life.
What happened?
ian edwards
When I was like a teenager, and here's the irony.
I was going in...
For an operation that you're supposed to go in in the morning and leave in the afternoon.
joe rogan
Oh.
ian edwards
It's just a quick thing.
And then it was literally for a circumcision.
I was like...
joe rogan
You were getting a circumcision?
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
What were you doing?
ian edwards
I just had sex with this girl, like, I was a kid, like, say, 18, and somehow I pulled the skin of my dick back and couldn't get it back.
I did that to clean it.
And I couldn't get the skin back, right?
Over.
So then I spent like an entire night with like a raw boner.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian edwards
With no skin covering it.
So I went to the doctor.
Then he got it back over and he said, you should get a circumcision.
So one time operation is going and you don't have to worry about this shit happening again.
joe rogan
But it only happened once, right?
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you were furiously beaten off though, right?
ian edwards
Is that what you mean?
No, no, no.
I pulled the skin back to clean it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Officer, I was cleaning the gun when it shot my neighbor.
ian edwards
No, it's cleaning.
There was shit under there.
Yeah.
So then I went in and they gave me the anesthesia.
And then when I woke up, there was like a hose down my throat and people were frantic around me.
And it was like nighttime.
It was way past the time I was supposed to come back, come to.
And the anesthesia gave me pneumonia.
I ended up spending like two, one and a half to two weeks in the hospital.
And the first few days was in intensive care.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
ian edwards
It was anesthesia.
I did not, like, wake up.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You almost died getting your dick operated on.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was almost that guy.
Whew.
But for the most part, listen, you're talking to someone who's had a bunch of surgeries.
I've had my nose fixed.
I've had my arm broken, my hands.
I've had my knees operated on three times.
I've had three knee surgeries.
I've been put under quite a few times.
It's mostly safe.
It's really about the anesthesiologist.
Hey, Jamie, just somebody at the door.
Try to figure out...
jamie vernon
That's the security guard.
joe rogan
Okay.
Why is he doing that?
Wandering around like he's got a plan.
jamie vernon
I have no idea.
He's got a chair there.
He must be hanging out up there today.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Some people are weird, man.
You never know.
When you get in an Uber, do you know that they...
How much background do they do on an Uber?
jamie vernon
So I was trying to explain.
When you asked me the other day, I was like, to get the approval on your app to be like, yes, this car can drive Uber is one thing.
But once you have that, anybody you know can...
Be behind that.
They don't scan your face when you're in the car every time or anything like that.
Yeah, I got the Uber.
Bro, use it.
joe rogan
So if you and I got an Uber, I could use your Uber and I could drive around and pretend I'm you.
jamie vernon
You could get caught, sure, but people definitely do that.
joe rogan
But how many people get caught driving an Uber?
Fucking none.
Right?
Whoever saw that coming?
Rideshare.
Remember when you were a kid and there was taxis?
Whoever thought, man, I could have my own taxi?
They used to have a shit called gypsy taxis.
And they would arrest those people.
ian edwards
Yeah, in New York.
Yes!
joe rogan
They would arrest them for trying to do the Uber thing.
Why don't they get an Uber?
Why would they be a gypsy cab?
jamie vernon
Five bucks.
ian edwards
This is before that, though.
joe rogan
There was a year that I lived in New York that some insane number of gypsy cab drivers got murdered.
Insane.
ian edwards
Oh, for real?
joe rogan
It was something like 40-plus in a year got murdered, so it was almost one a week.
They were killing gypsy cab drivers.
They would rob them and kill them.
ian edwards
Did they ever catch that guy?
joe rogan
I don't know if it was just one guy.
ian edwards
Yeah, those people.
joe rogan
They were just deciding that these gypsy cab drivers, I think, this was, you know, boy, we're talking like probably like 1990s, 1992 or some shit like that.
Like there was no internet and there was, I don't know if people were paying ever with credit cards.
ian edwards
No, it was all cash.
joe rogan
It was all cash?
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if you were a gypsy cab driver, they saw you as being someone who had a wad of cash on you.
ian edwards
And then you can't report it to the police because you're a gypsy cab driver, so you shouldn't even be doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they would just kill them.
ian edwards
But if you're a criminal, it's a great crime.
It's a smart crime.
Like, I'm going to rob somebody that shouldn't be doing what they're doing for a living, so they can't really report to the police That I'm robbing you.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they would shoot him and kill him.
The thing is, they would just shoot him in the head.
And the thing is, they would be considered...
Maybe these people were illegals.
Maybe these people didn't have a lot of documentation.
Maybe when they killed him, it would be a dead end because they wouldn't know what to do.
Maybe they were here by themselves.
ian edwards
Maybe they figured the cops don't care about...
joe rogan
They would definitely figure the cops don't care.
And because it's cash and because there's no meter, so there's no record of everything.
Did you find anything about that?
jamie vernon
Quickly just Google it.
There was one – I found a story from New York Times, 1983. There was a weekend where 11 people were murdered, but this story just has the story of one guy that was found in the front seat of a gypsy cab, murdered.
Could have been a shot, could have been a nice pic.
joe rogan
It was the 1990s.
jamie vernon
Okay.
joe rogan
It was the 1990s.
It was definitely – well, I moved there.
I think I moved to New York and – 91. I think I lived there from 91. I lived back and forth in 92. Here's a story from 1990. A sixth cabbie is slain in the Bronx, but it's New York Times.
jamie vernon
It's just a paywall thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
The fifth one was killed.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think there was a long stretch where it started to become a big deal.
But it's...
I mean, if there was 40 Wall Street guys murdered...
Murders of times of drivers in the 1990s originated...
The creation of pirate taxons.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's kind of the article about it.
Since 1990, 180 drivers have lost their lives while on duty in the streets, which averages more than two per month.
joe rogan
Wow.
ian edwards
That's crazy.
jamie vernon
I don't know if that's regular.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know either.
It might just be cab drivers.
Because gypsy cab drivers, how do you prove that guy was a gypsy cab driver?
You just got a dead guy in a car with a bullet in the back of the head.
And then you have to ask his friends, was this guy gypsy cab driving?
ian edwards
Maybe it was a certain style of car, too.
So that passengers could identify it as a gypsy cab so that they could take it.
And it's like, if you're taking a gypsy cab, you have a limited amount of money.
And you don't want to pay a cab, but you want to get to where you're going.
It has to be identifiable.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Cabbies risk death daily in New York.
Jungle under siege.
Crime.
Hours are long and the mortality rate high.
So far this year, 32 taxi drivers have been killed by armed robbers posing as customers.
Yeah, and I think that's just regular taxi drivers.
Yeah.
That's a rough gig, man.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now, when we were living in New York, imagine if just now you go there, it's just Ubers everywhere.
Everybody's Ubering.
Everybody's just using their phone, standing out like the comedy store has become a fucking disaster trying to get in that parking lot now.
ian edwards
Yeah, that's a pain in the ass.
And they just pull up and block the driveway.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck and no one stops them.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're just going in there left and right, just blocking everything, dropping people off, picking people up.
It's never ending.
You can never get in there.
It's weird.
It's like a new thing that no one saw coming.
Let's play Gary Vee here.
jamie vernon
What's next?
joe rogan
What could we get on the front lines of something like that?
jamie vernon
That scooter stuff is crazy.
There's a one-year pilot program, I think they're calling it, for Los Angeles County.
That's why more and more have popped up.
I think they're just sort of saying...
We're going to do a year, figure it out.
No one is going to be taken down for doing this, or like they were trying in Santa Monica to get rid of them for a minute, like the bird scooters and whatnot.
They've ramped it up completely.
There's all sorts of electronic bikes now.
There's at least, I want to say, six or seven different companies just in Hollywood where I live.
They're just everywhere, laying all over the sidewalks, but that's sort of what they're trying to figure out is...
How do you leave them around?
Where are you going to leave them?
Is it successful?
I don't know how many taxes they're paying and how much money the city gets brought in.
ian edwards
I don't mind them, but it's just dangerous walking.
joe rogan
It is.
ian edwards
Because I was walking down the street one day, and I was about to just...
You know, you're just walking, but you just change your stride a little bit to go to the right.
And I almost got hit by one, and it was coming fast.
And I'm like, it's the sidewalk.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It could be serious-ass damage.
jamie vernon
That's the problem in L.A. is that...
You're supposed to be on the street with those.
It says do not ride these on the sidewalk, but it is 100% not safe to be on the streets of L.A. on those because people are getting run over.
I don't know if anybody's died, but downtown L.A., somebody driving 50 miles an hour ran over someone on a scooter.
Why the fuck are you driving so fast downtown also?
joe rogan
Well, there's people that are crazy.
jamie vernon
Yeah, the hit and runs happen anyway.
joe rogan
They happen all over the place.
And then there's assholes.
People are going to shoot cab drivers.
They're going to run over scooter drivers.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're everywhere, though.
It's weird to see them.
They've started to ban them in certain places, right?
jamie vernon
Some neighborhoods have tried.
Like, West Hollywood, you kind of can't leave them anywhere.
unidentified
But I think cities.
joe rogan
I think they're cities.
jamie vernon
West Hollywood's a city.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean outside of California.
I mean, other cities have just said no more.
jamie vernon
Vegas, you can't.
No fucking way could you have them in Vegas.
joe rogan
No?
jamie vernon
All those drunk people.
joe rogan
Oh, right?
Jesus.
Oh, my gosh.
ian edwards
Drunk people on scooters.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
ian edwards
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
They're ridiculous.
Drunk people on scooters and drunk people driving while you're on a scooter.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Plus weed.
joe rogan
Plus weed.
Now weed.
Yeah, how good was Vegas?
It was a good time, wasn't it?
ian edwards
It was a good time, yeah.
joe rogan
That was fun.
ian edwards
You just had me thinking about what could be next, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, what could be next?
Like, if we didn't see scooters coming, we didn't see Uber coming, what could be the next big thing?
ian edwards
What do we need?
joe rogan
What do we need?
We need protection from the ocean.
The ocean's gonna rise up and take us.
We're melting the ice caps.
We're going to have to move to Tucson.
ian edwards
Boats.
jamie vernon
They're making more subways here right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're going to fill up with water.
What a good move.
jamie vernon
They're going to have one in Beverly Hills.
joe rogan
Those are going to be canals.
ian edwards
Canals.
joe rogan
We'll use those for the toilet in the year 2090. Yeah, we're going to throw our shit down those tubes.
I wonder, man.
I mean, there was some shit that I was reading today about the ice caps melting at an accelerated rate.
It's never good news.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whenever it's like ice cap melting news, like, hey, we just found out we actually have more ice than we thought.
We're good.
All right.
ian edwards
Doesn't that mean Vegas can get water now?
No?
joe rogan
Vegas gets their water, they figure it out.
There's so much money in Vegas, they just steal it.
Where do they get it?
From a hole in the ground?
ian edwards
No idea.
joe rogan
Is there a well out there?
ian edwards
All I know, they got good water pressure in every hotel I've ever been in.
joe rogan
It's wonderful.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look, that's a human ingenuity.
ian edwards
They're building more shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, and if the ice caps do melt, it'll just bring it closer to Vegas.
ian edwards
Right.
Vegas will use it.
joe rogan
Yeah, the water will be like real close.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, we just move inside to the middle.
Like, this is what people have been doing forever.
This idea that you're supposed to be able to keep your fucking house on the water in Santa Monica.
That isn't crazy.
ian edwards
I know, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You decided to build a house where the beach is your front yard.
That is so nuts.
ian edwards
You think those cliffs were always there?
This shit was different decades before.
So keep on thinking it's going to be like that all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you buy a seaside house in Marina Del Rey or someone really nice, you're making a gamble.
I'm only going to be alive for 40 more years.
Over those years, let's hope that this water stays over there.
ian edwards
Exactly.
Stays put.
Let's hope Mother Nature does what I want it to do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm gonna spend seven million dollars on this fucking house with literally no backyard.
It's just ocean.
And I'm just gonna hope it stays like this.
ian edwards
I just can't wait till my crib becomes beachfront property.
Yeah.
And then I could sell it.
joe rogan
I rented a beach house a couple of years ago when I was getting my kitchen fixed.
And we rented this house in Malibu on the water.
It was beautiful, man.
You would wake up, you'd eat breakfast.
You'd just be sitting there staring out over the water, and the water would literally come almost underneath the balcony, so it looked like you were sitting in water, like you were floating in water, like you were on a boat.
I was like, wow, this is so beautiful.
It makes you feel so good.
ian edwards
Yeah, it does, being by the ocean.
joe rogan
But what a gamble.
ian edwards
Yeah, even though you sound like that's the ultimate infinity pool.
joe rogan
Yes.
ian edwards
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I don't mind.
Like, La Jolla, you have the condo right by the beach, and you go to sleep at night, you can hear the ocean, you wake up.
But then, I'd be like, what if this is the night?
joe rogan
This is the night.
ian edwards
Where, you know.
joe rogan
Comes in.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just takes the building down and rushes it out to the mountains.
I mean, that's happened so many times in history.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
All it takes is an earthquake or an asteroid hits the ocean.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
If an asteroid hit the ocean, we wouldn't even be safe here.
We wouldn't be safe.
We probably wouldn't be safe in Arizona.
It would go deep into Arizona.
If an asteroid hit the fucking ocean just outside of Malibu, boom!
Just a big one.
ian edwards
Everybody in the Midwest be laughing.
joe rogan
They'd be laughing our ass off.
ian edwards
See, we had the best property all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, so we had to duck hurricanes.
They have the scariest shit.
I think tornadoes are the scariest shit.
ian edwards
Yeah, those things are so random.
joe rogan
And they happen every year.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Every year.
It's not like earthquakes happen every year.
ian edwards
A hurricane, you can track, you know, it's coming, you can prepare, you can just leave.
A tornado, it's just like...
joe rogan
They just show up.
ian edwards
Hey, man, I'm here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the scariest.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's just something that people deal with.
You see, they wipe out entire towns.
They take towns off the map.
ian edwards
I feel like they just always aim for these small towns.
joe rogan
Well, I think it has to do with agriculture.
If I'm right, I think it has to do with flat areas and the type of weather that they have.
And I don't think they take place in areas where there's a lot of trees and forests.
Is that true?
jamie vernon
It's more like they don't really happen in cities because the heat structure and it creates where the air pressure starts because it's a hot, cold air pressure system that kind of starts swirling.
joe rogan
So because of the artificial concrete and all that stuff, that's why tornadoes almost protect the bubble.
jamie vernon
It does happen in cities from time to time, more like on the outskirts, but it's very rare to see one roll through a downtown.
joe rogan
But does one ever go through Colorado?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'm looking one up right here.
That's why, as you were saying, trees.
I got a video of one just ripping trees up in Texas.
But mostly, yeah, for sure, on flatlands.
ian edwards
Even Texas has them?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Texas is a lot of crazy wind.
jamie vernon
But it's so close to Oklahoma.
Oklahoma is like Tornado Valley, so anywhere around there.
joe rogan
There was one that was on TV that was mad.
It was hitting this area where they had these oil trucks, and it was carrying these semi-trucks in the air.
I don't know if they're oil trucks.
They're semis.
You know, like a 16-wheeler, like fucking trucking, like that.
It was flying in a circle in the sky like a fucking newspaper.
You know how a page from a newspaper gets caught in the wind and starts flying around?
This fucking tornado was carrying trucks like that.
jamie vernon
I thought it was in this video.
This was in Missouri earlier this year.
joe rogan
I don't see it.
That's mostly new stuff.
Yeah, but there's a video of...
Oh, that's it right there.
That's the video.
This is a video where you see...
Look at this.
While you see the trucks, as they get closer, you can see inside the fucking thing.
That is a truck flying in a circle.
If this is the same video.
jamie vernon
That's hard to tell.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's it.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's after.
joe rogan
No, that's the semi after it lands.
I mean, that might not have even been it, but it was one where there's probably so many fucking tornado videos, but it was one where these trucks were literally flying around in a circle like it was carrying this gigantic semi and just floating it in the air like a paper airplane.
jamie vernon
Was it from Twister, though?
Was it some fake footage or something?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
It was real.
It was real.
Some news footage from television.
jamie vernon
It seems like then it's hard to catch that because all these are just already on the ground.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it was from a distance.
It was some news footage.
We're fucking rambling.
Speaking of rambling, Ian Edwards has a comedy special.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah.
When's it coming out?
Friday at midnight on Comedy Central.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
Why did you decide to do it in that style?
It's kind of interesting.
You did it like a TED Talk.
ian edwards
Because there's so many specials out there.
And I get to do my material when I do it that way, but add a little twist and an extra layer to it, and that'll make people be more interested in it than if I was just going to do like just a regular stand-up.
joe rogan
That's smart.
You clever bastard.
ian edwards
Once in a while I got an idea, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
And you got the microphone, a regular microphone, just sitting on the stool in case you change your mind.
ian edwards
Well, the last bit I used the mic.
You noticed that.
joe rogan
Yes, you did.
ian edwards
The last bit I do with the mic.
joe rogan
What is in your hand?
ian edwards
The clicker.
Because some of the topics, I put it on the screen.
Just like a TED talk.
You talk, you click the thing, your picture represents what you're talking about, and then you keep on going.
joe rogan
I've seen people do that before with TED Talks, and I've always thought that would be a good thing with comics.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah.
Because even when you look at your stand-up, you take on a topic, you dissect it, and you give people an alternate view of that topic, just like a TED Talk, and then you move on to the next one.
So comics like you and me and other people, it's a perfect format for our stand-up.
joe rogan
Yeah, are you doing that when you headline?
When you do headline gigs?
ian edwards
Nah, nah.
joe rogan
Maybe you should.
ian edwards
Maybe.
joe rogan
I thought about doing that.
ian edwards
Oh, right.
You did?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I thought about it at one point in time, but I'm too lazy.
ian edwards
Yeah.
Yeah, like, I don't have merch or anything, so I don't bring in merch.
I don't want to have to make sure they have a screen or transport one and all that shit.
joe rogan
That's true.
ian edwards
Then it gets cumbersome.
joe rogan
Well, I heard that Kevin Hart at one point in time had pyrotechnics.
Like, he would hit a punchline.
Bam!
Bam!
20 foot tall flames and shoot through the sky in arenas.
I'm like, man.
You add to the stand-up.
It's like props, but way better.
I feel like props are one of the rare things where you can't do them anymore because Carrot Top owns that.
Whereas when I was a kid, man, there was prop comedians.
ian edwards
Yeah, there was a lot of them.
Right?
joe rogan
Jamie, you don't know about any of that.
jamie vernon
I just remember a lot of ventriloquists and some people that were doing little prop things, but no one really had that truck full of fucking stuff.
ian edwards
They'd be the comic that'd show up to the mic with a briefcase, and then afterwards he has to gather stuff like a stripper after his set.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have a giant duffel bag.
Gallagher had a lot of stuff.
There was a guy that was...
He was really funny, man.
A guy in Boston that used to do that.
Fuck, I'm blanking on his name.
But he had glasses, and he had a real similar kind of act.
But it was kind of like science-based.
He had a bunch of weird shit that he would carry around.
jamie vernon
Alex Zerbe?
joe rogan
Nope.
unidentified
Okay.
No.
joe rogan
It was a long time ago.
ian edwards
You ever seen Chips Cooney?
joe rogan
Chips Cooney.
I've heard the name.
ian edwards
Yeah, he had props, but he was a fake magician.
joe rogan
Really?
ian edwards
So, like...
Remember the name of that Tupperware?
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
ian edwards
That expanded?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Like, that was one of his tricks.
It's just all goofball shit, but he was funny, like, you know, and then pull it out, that's the trick, and just keep going on to the next goofy thing.
joe rogan
There was a guy named Lenny Schultz, and he...
ian edwards
I remember.
joe rogan
Remember Crazy Lenny?
ian edwards
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a bunch of props.
ian edwards
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I watched Steve Byrne's documentary on The Amazing Jonathan that he just put out.
It was really good.
joe rogan
Was it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, as a younger kid, I liked him just because of his zany, crazy shit he did, but watching the documentary was awesome.
joe rogan
Good job doing that.
Shout out to Steve Byrne.
What is it basically about?
He lived in excess, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's definitely about that, sort of like his rise in maybe, I would say, fall, but then sort of how he came back.
He almost died.
It's a lot, too, about this fan that became his manager, and sort of he helped him and guided him along and apprenticed him a little bit, and just about the relationship and Pulled footage together.
It was just interesting.
He's an interesting guy.
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys from the fucking 80s went hard, man.
That was the Kinnison era, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you wanted to be a wild man, you had to go hard.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
He figured out how to snort coke on stage.
He's just like, I'll make a joke about it.
It was supposed to be fake coke, but he was like, I'm really doing it.
Like a lot.
joe rogan
So he made a bit.
Yeah.
ian edwards
That was not a prop.
That's real shit.
joe rogan
I bet people have done a lot of Weasley shit like that.
Like, just put something into their act.
They'll pull something off.
You know?
Like I would think.
One of the cooler things about comedy is also one of the weirder things.
It's so open-ended.
You get booked to the Bray Improv.
You show up.
Like, what's up, Ian?
How are you, man?
You're like, hey, this is my opening act.
They shake hands.
Everybody's cool.
They don't even ask you what you're going to talk about.
They got everybody sitting there.
People have paid money.
They've sold tickets.
They've sold drinks.
And they have not a clue as to what you're going to discuss.
And you just go up there and say whatever the fuck you want.
ian edwards
America.
Love it.
joe rogan
Crazy.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
What a weird way to make a living.
ian edwards
Yeah, and then you do the same thing for like a TV show or something.
You have to type it out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Send it to them.
They gotta look at it.
joe rogan
That's the beautiful thing about Netflix.
Netflix didn't say shit.
They just said, hey, we want to do a special with you.
I said, great.
Let's do it.
They said, okay, let's do it.
It was that easy.
We did it, and they said, okay, great, you did it.
We like it.
We'll put it up.
Boom.
ian edwards
I had to send Comedy Central a proof of concept.
I had to shoot the set in a small club, send it to them, and they're like, all right, okay.
joe rogan
Ugh.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, the good news is they approved.
It's on TV. And a special is always, in my opinion, really just an advertisement to get people to come see you.
ian edwards
Right, exactly.
joe rogan
Live.
So I'm glad the advertisement's out.
ian edwards
Oh yeah, me too.
joe rogan
I've said it before, I'll say it again while you're here, you're one of the best comics in the world.
For sure.
ian edwards
Listen, so many times people come up to me, Rogan was talking about you.
Like, I don't even have to be on the show.
They're like, Rogan's talking about you.
People will come to a show because you just spoke about me.
joe rogan
But it's true though, man.
You and I have been friends for 20, what?
28 years or some shit?
Something crazy.
It's a long fucking time.
But you've always been one of the best comics in the world, you know?
And I think right now...
ian edwards
Thank you, and you too, brother.
joe rogan
Your new shit, man.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That you're doing, it's not even the special.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was crying this weekend in Vegas.
That new thing...
I won't say what it is, but God damn, it's good.
It's really good, man.
I love that.
You know, I love the transition between when someone does a special to writing and working on new stuff.
Yeah, man.
Because then you just get this...
New angles and having to write shit.
It's like, I've been trying to tell this to Bobby Lee, who's another guy that is one of the best comics in the world.
And it's a fucking shame that Bobby Lee doesn't have a special.
And he doesn't, you know, it's like his thing is like, well, no, no, I won't be able to use that material anymore.
ian edwards
Exactly.
joe rogan
Like, yeah, but you'll write better stuff.
You'll be forced to.
ian edwards
I think he's shooting a special, though.
joe rogan
Yes, he's talking about it.
ian edwards
Yeah, because he asked me who directed mine.
So I was like, wait a minute, is Bobby about to shoot a special?
But he'll see what you've seen and what I'm seeing now, that how great it is to come up with a new set of material.
It's terrifying in first row.
Yeah, it's very terrifying.
I've had some amazing mediocre sets.
Jesus, I feel bad.
joe rogan
I know.
When you first trot out new stuff, it's like, you don't know.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just don't know.
ian edwards
And then you said something the other day when we was in Vegas.
You was talking to Ali.
We was all in the back after the show about how you had a joke that was new.
It was working.
You wrote it.
It's new.
It was working.
And then you broke it by over-fixing it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Then you had to take shit back out.
And that's happened to me during this...
New set of material too.
I started a joke, created it, and then broke it by overdoing stuff to it.
And then I had to like figure out what part that I put in there that threw it off and take it out and fix it back.
joe rogan
Well, it's always interesting to talk to someone that's really just a few years into comedy because then you've got to go over your own process and think about it more deeply.
One of the things that happens in jiu-jitsu is in jiu-jitsu you get better when you teach.
It's real strange.
A lot of guys that wind up getting a job teaching jiu-jitsu to beginners, their jiu-jitsu jumps.
It jumps up several notches.
It's really interesting.
And I think sometimes that happens with comedy.
So when we're dealing with something like Ali, shout out to Ali Makovsky, our friend Ali, she's only been doing comedy for what?
Four years?
Somewhere around four or five years.
And she's just coming into her own.
And she's what?
Was she 22?
22 or 23. 22 or 23. Very funny.
Very promising.
She was gonna come down and watch us she came to San Diego to watch when Tony and Andrew and I did that that giant arena down there because she's because she opens up for me all the time at the improv comedy store She's getting to be around all these assassins and she's getting to see it from the outside,
but that was her first time Opening and I was like because she said she was gonna come down to watch I said you want to do a set and she's like I was secretly hoping you would ask I said alright come on come do a set So she opened, she did 10 minutes in front of, you know, it's like 1,200 people.
It's a lot of people.
For her first big show in Vegas on a Friday night, she murdered.
ian edwards
And she did good.
joe rogan
She did great.
Super relaxed.
But when you're talking to someone who's up and coming like that, I love that.
I love talking to like Jesus.
Jesus Trio or like, you know, Frank Castillo or any of these guys coming up because you get a chance to talk to them about how you formulate stuff and you compare notes.
And sometimes they have interesting ways that they do it that I never considered, you know?
And sometimes people have interesting ways of thinking about their material.
They think about it when they go walk their dog.
They'll play their set in their ear.
Or, you know, when they go on hikes, they'll just go on a hike and think about one joke and try to work the joke out while they're hiking.
You can find out.
ian edwards
I've learned a lot from talking to younger comics too, so I get that completely.
joe rogan
The thing that's happening to you right now is the thing that happens to them, except the fact that you're far more skilled at it.
It's like they're trying to put together an act.
But you've already done it many, many times.
You've already put out specials and records so that when you're doing this, it's like, you know how to write jokes.
You're always writing new jokes.
You've been doing comedy forever.
But still, you're starting from jump.
When you start from zero, from ground zero, and then you try to put together an act that you hope people want to pay to see...
That's a terrifying spot.
ian edwards
Yeah, it's terrifying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
And then there was a part of it in this new set of material that I was doing wrong.
Like, just the style of joke that I was writing.
And I just felt off.
Like, even when some of the bits were working.
And then I was in Atlanta a few weeks ago.
And then it just hit me what I was doing wrong.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
You do the Laughing Skull?
ian edwards
Yeah, I was doing Laughing Skull.
unidentified
The best.
ian edwards
Yeah, it's a dope-ass club.
joe rogan
A dope little room.
ian edwards
Yeah, and it's a great room to go headlining when you're, like, got new material that you need to just work out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I say about those rooms, like, the belly room and, like, the Laughing Skull, like, that's where you find out what's bullshit.
ian edwards
Yeah.
And I found out what was bullshit, for sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because sometimes you can, like, song and dance your way through a 300-seat room and trick them.
ian edwards
Like, enough people will start laughing to get the other people laughing.
joe rogan
And then you'll kind of go along with it and with your delivery and you can kind of make funny out of it.
But there's no momentum with 70 people.
ian edwards
Yeah.
You have to, like, really make them laugh.
joe rogan
It's got to be real.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
With 70 people, you got...
I did a Jeremiah Watkins show, Stand Up on the Spot on Tuesday.
That's the best example of that, because they're yelling out subjects.
And you find out.
But that also, like constructing a new set, what's interesting about it is that you get a chance to figure something out and make it real.
What Bobby Lee's doing right now is working with tried and true material.
Tried and proven.
He kills every night.
He knows it's going to kill.
If it didn't kill, he'd be stunned.
He'd be like, what?
This is my shit.
I've been killing with this for four years.
He knows what he's doing.
ian edwards
He's just a funny machine.
I don't even know how to describe it.
Just him.
He's just a funny-ass fucking...
joe rogan
So funny.
And not enough people know.
Because most people know him from podcasts, and that helps for sure.
And from television shows, that helps for sure.
But there needs to be something people can see of his stand-up.
So we're getting him.
He's listening.
It's like he's a slow, but he'll listen.
Take a little time.
He listens.
He's getting in there.
He's getting in there.
unidentified
He's too good.
ian edwards
Yeah, he's too good.
joe rogan
The other one's Owen Smith.
ian edwards
Yeah, yes.
Owen Smith.
joe rogan
Too good.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Too good.
ian edwards
Has his own style.
Fucking funny.
joe rogan
He's a murderer.
ian edwards
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
He's a top flight headliner.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not like a good headliner.
Like a top of the food chain headliner.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if someone told me Owen Smith was selling out arenas, I'd be like, good.
Should have been happening a long time ago.
And as much as Kevin Hart or fucking fill in the blank, whoever can sell out giant-ass places, Owen Smith's material is as good as it gets.
ian edwards
It belongs in those places.
joe rogan
100%.
And sometimes these guys, they just don't do...
They don't do enough road work or they don't do enough.
They've got writing jobs or something takes them off the path where people don't necessarily see.
They do a lot of acting.
It's all different little paths that kind of deviate you away from...
From stand-up.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
And I think I went down that path when I was on Fear Factor.
ian edwards
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
When I was on Fear Factor, I didn't really tour much.
You know, it was mostly just being around L.A. because we were filming so much.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
We filmed so many episodes.
ian edwards
And you guys traveled a lot to different places?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian edwards
Yeah.
That shit is exhausting, man.
joe rogan
Exhausting.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it was exhausting, too, because you'd be filming all day.
You'd be out in the heat.
And then you would come back.
And after that, I would do stand-up at night.
And I was just like, I'm just going to do the store and then go home.
I wasn't going to travel anywhere.
I mean, I did a little bit, but not much.
So, it's like things can be good, where it's like it's great to have a good gig, but those things can be bad because it ultimately takes you away from your stand-up.
I mean, Louis C.K. said that to me once.
He was in the period...
After he stopped doing his show.
He just stopped doing it for a while.
And he said, I haven't done anything other than stand-up for a year.
And I said, what made you do that?
He goes, I just wanted to really concentrate on stand-up.
He said, I don't think you could be at your best while you do other things.
He goes, I think you could be good, but I think at your best, you really have to just do stand-up.
I think he's right.
ian edwards
Even if you don't do much in that day, and if you just write one line or one tag or something, it just counts so much towards the whole thing.
And by the end of the year, where you end up is going to be way further than you would have been.
joe rogan
I think it's not an even formula, though, because I do think that there's some value in taking some time and doing things as well.
There's value in vacations.
There's value in experiences.
And then there's also you have to do a lot of stand-up.
It's like both things are true.
Because if you only do stand-up, one of the things that does happen is guys lose their point of references.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Because their whole life revolves around traveling, so you get a lot of airplane jokes.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
And it revolves around drinking, because people drink at clubs.
You don't have enough experiences.
ian edwards
Yeah.
You got to live a little.
joe rogan
Yes.
ian edwards
Yes.
To put it on the paper, to bring it on stage.
joe rogan
You gotta live a little.
I think that's something that gets missed.
But it's not a perfect formula.
It's also like, how much enthusiasm do you have?
Sometimes the more enthusiasm...
You feel good about it when you take time off and it makes you better.
ian edwards
Right.
You just have to know.
It's just like an athlete, like in England, the soccer season is over, right?
So the soccer players go on vacation.
But while they're on vacation, you got to get in a month or so, you got to get back to training in a month or so.
But you can't go back to camp out of shape.
So there's a point where you have to be with a trainer while you're kind of off for the season, getting in shape.
So that when you go to camp, you're not out of shape and you're losing your spot on it.
It's just a delicate balance of everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
And also, it's so insanely competitive, right?
There's so many people lined up ready to take your spot.
You can't get fat when you're on vacation.
ian edwards
But so is comedy.
It's like when you shoot a special and then the guy that couldn't follow you is killing because he still has his material.
That he's been had and you're like not doing as good because you're working on shit.
It kind of fucks with me a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Just the competitiveness of me.
And then I say, hey man, this is just a natural order of things.
Just keep doing what you're doing and everything is going to be fine.
You figure it out.
You're growing again.
there's nothing wrong with that.
joe rogan
Whenever new bits come to life and they start to really work, I go, okay, just trust in the process.
This is what happens.
You trust the process, keep grinding, but you have to do that.
if you don't put in that time if you just decide oh I need a new act but you don't work on it it's not gonna just show up nah it's easy you have to you have to make the That process is a real thing.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
And there's going to be some sets just suck.
ian edwards
Yeah, man.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Like, yeah.
Like, yeah.
You take one old joke, go on stage, and there's some butter...
joe rogan
But one thing is true for sure for me is that when someone like you is writing new stuff and that new stuff kills, like this past weekend, that makes me excited about writing new shit.
I go, oh my god, it's out there.
I gotta find it.
I gotta find the bits.
They're out there.
Look, he just found two giant juicy ones.
It's like someone coming back from a fishing trip.
Oh, is that tuna?
I'm calling tuna fish, man.
It's out there.
ian edwards
Oh, it's out there.
There's gold in San Francisco.
Yes.
Go dig it.
joe rogan
It's gold in them nar hills.
ian edwards
I always see you go find new material, so it's always good.
We both had new shit this weekend, and we're enthusiastic about it and excited about it, so it adds a different level to just going out to do a show that we would normally do.
And then we get to talk about it afterwards with the excitement of how new the material is and how it's coming along.
That's a level of fun right there.
You don't experience unless you're out there writing and growing.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no other way around it.
And I think that's a metaphor for life.
I think the people that get stagnant in life, the thing is because you're not taking any chances.
You're not doing anything new.
You're not growing.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta...
I mean, and artistically with stand-up, it's one of the rare art forms where you cannot do the old stuff.
They don't...
Right.
I mean, maybe if you're Jim Gaffigan, people want to hear Hot Pockets, but they also want to hear Our A New Shit.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
You know, maybe if you're Burt Kreischer, they want to hear The Machine Story.
He says they get mad if he doesn't tell The Machine Story.
ian edwards
He doesn't tell The Machine Story.
joe rogan
They just take his shirt off.
They get mad at his clothes.
What if he starts taking his pants off and then just puts them back on?
They go, hey!
unidentified
Hey!
joe rogan
Fucking pants on!
Why are you pants on, bro?
ian edwards
How dare you?
joe rogan
We're all party and pants free!
That'd be his new shirt.
Party and pants free.
ian edwards
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Party with no pants or party and pants free?
Party and pants free is better.
ian edwards
Party and pants free, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer, there you go.
That's the name of your new special.
Party and pants free.
Just you fat as fuck with boxer shorts.
Talking shit about Sober October.
jamie vernon
Tidy Whites would be way better.
ian edwards
Tidy Whites.
jamie vernon
Go all in.
joe rogan
Yeah, but boxer shorts, when he moves funny, his dickhole will open up a little bit.
You can get a peer into the monster.
unidentified
Well, how about just Speedos?
joe rogan
How about Burt on stage with Speedos on?
Speedos don't seem like a comfort move.
Seems like a bad decision.
That's not someone who really wants their dick to be caressed and cradled.
Speedos are like you're punishing your dick.
It's like a tent in a storm.
You're nailing it down.
ian edwards
Punishing it or showing it off.
joe rogan
Right.
If you've got a hog.
ian edwards
Instead of getting a penis enlargement, buy Speedos.
joe rogan
Yeah, just take your circumcised dick and pull it all the way down so it's a full erection.
ian edwards
Amen.
joe rogan
And then put a ring, a rubber ring around the base of the balls to contract all the blood, constrict all the blood.
Yeah, that's a weird thing that someone figured that out, right?
Cock rings?
ian edwards
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm, how do I stay hard here?
joe rogan
There's got to be a way.
Just put a rubber band at the base of your dick.
ian edwards
Pre-viagra.
joe rogan
Yeah, yikes.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one thing that if they do ever come out, I used to have a bit about that, if they ever come out with a pill, like a boner or a dick enlargement pill, if that actually works, it'd be 30 seconds later the first dude would die of an overdose.
ian edwards
Oh yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not going to just take one.
You're going to find out how many give me a stroke.
ian edwards
How big did you want it?
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had a whole, there was a whole sequence where women would evolve because people would still have sex but the dicks would get bigger and the women would develop these flying squirrel pussies.
They would just jump off cliffs to get away from dudes who were chasing after them with their big dicks and shopping carts.
ian edwards
Hilarious.
They'd grow wings.
Why are women growing wings?
joe rogan
Just to fit so people could mate.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you could grow a big...
Have you ever watched a porn and said, that's just too much?
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It comes a certain point in time where, like, how big do you want your arms, right?
ian edwards
Yes.
joe rogan
Do you want a big arm or do you want an arm where the bicep touches your fingers when you go like this?
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
Do you want that?
Oh, you can't even move.
ian edwards
Yeah, that's crazy.
unidentified
You can't even move.
joe rogan
It's too big.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian edwards
That means you can never do this.
joe rogan
You can't do anything.
ian edwards
You're like this.
joe rogan
You probably can't even walk.
You're just too heavy.
You're probably waddling everywhere you go.
You weigh 600 pounds and you're 5'8".
How the fuck are you doing that, right?
There's too much.
You can get too much.
You can get too much dick.
But I bet it's like...
I bet it's like those girls who get body dysmorphia with their breast socks.
Some girls go crazy.
Like, they have triple E's and they need them in F. They get nuts.
They don't see it like the way you're saying it.
That's how it happens with anorexics, bodybuilders.
ian edwards
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian edwards
And it's goddamn bananas.
joe rogan
It is.
The dick thing is a weird one, right?
ian edwards
Yeah, it's definitely going to happen since women overdo it with the breast size.
Like you said, they can't see how weird it looks.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a normal thing with humans.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you seen those guys that inject their muscles with oil?
It makes their muscles swell up like balloons.
It looks so fake, but they don't see it.
It's body dysmorphia.
It's the same thing that an anorexic gets when they don't recognize that they look like a skeleton.
ian edwards
When we was at the airport in Vegas and we're waiting for your pool thing, there was this chick and she had like a weird butt.
joe rogan
Poor girl.
ian edwards
And it wasn't real.
And you could tell, only she didn't know that it didn't look real.
joe rogan
She probably thought it looked amazing, right?
ian edwards
Yeah, she was walking around with pure confidence.
joe rogan
Look at that, bitch.
Yeah.
People get strange because the butt thing is treated differently than the boob thing.
Like a woman with really large fake breasts is still hot.
ian edwards
Yes.
joe rogan
But a woman with really large fake butt is like, come on.
ian edwards
Yeah, that comes off crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And fake lips.
It's another one.
That's crazy too.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we have rules.
It's weird.
ian edwards
Yeah, fake lips is like, what am I supposed to do?
Just pretend this is not happening in front of me right now?
joe rogan
Well, it's also, it fucks with your, apparently we have an, when we see a certain person, when we see people's faces, we have an expectation to where things are going to be, based on where things are.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
It's all like the Fibonacci sequence.
Like the golden ratio, the way your face is designed.
Like Ari Shafir.
If Ari Shafir had a tiny nose, you'd be like, what is wrong with your face?
Your face is supposed to have a big nose.
This is like how you're...
ian edwards
That style of face is supposed to come with that style of nose.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And if it doesn't, it's weird.
But then you look at a guy like Greg Fitzsimmons, there's a little nose.
If he had Ari's nose, you'd be like, what is that nose doing on your face?
This is crazy.
It's like you fuck with that when you do something to make something bigger or wider with your face.
ian edwards
You know how people get tattoos and different things?
Suppose people start enlarging areas of their face.
You're just getting bigger hairs, bigger noses.
joe rogan
What if big ears come into face?
Dumbo ears.
It's a new thing.
Well, how about those holes where people stretch?
They do those cages and they pull their fucking ear hole out.
They put that...
Earring hole at the bottom, make it giant.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like a hoop.
That's bananas.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what are you doing to your ears?
ian edwards
Yeah.
Like, I don't want to fuck up the chance of me not being able to hear some shit.
joe rogan
I don't think it does.
ian edwards
I don't think it does, but it's just...
I'm not doing anything personally that's close to anything that I need.
I need this for what I need this for.
I'm not going to do anything to it that might...
Jeopardize it in any way.
joe rogan
I always feel like that about cauliflower ear, too.
I go to all the years that I did jujitsu, I don't have cauliflower ear because I always wore ear guards.
ian edwards
Right.
joe rogan
It's like, if you fuck with the shape of your ear, it fucks with the way sound goes in there.
ian edwards
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Like, take your ear and then talk.
Go blah, blah, blah.
Now, put the tips of your fingers on the top of your ear and then fold them down.
La, la, la, la, la, la, la.
It changes the way sounds are.
It changes sound.
Like, this helps sound.
ian edwards
These are speakers.
These are bows.
Right, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, you're fucking with your bows.
joe rogan
You're fucking with your bows.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's the shape.
Nature figured out a shape to collect all that sound and get it inside your ear holes.
But when you're outside of your ear, it's like a rock.
Like a lot of these wrestlers and jiu-jitsu guys, it's all calcified.
So with that cauliflower ear, I don't know if you ever touched a cauliflower ear?
ian edwards
No.
joe rogan
It's like a rock under the surface.
It's like a calcium rock.
That's what it's like.
Because what it is, is the break in the skin, it swells up because it bleeds, and then that blood calcifies and hardens.
And the only way to fix it, my friend Brett had his fixed.
Brent, my friend Brent had it fixed.
They had to cut his ear like a fish.
They had to fillet it.
And then they had to open it up and scrape out all the hard tissue and then sew it back up together.
And he couldn't do jujitsu forever.
Because if he did jujitsu again after the operation, it would break open and start bleeding again.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I was looking for a picture where a guy gets this part.
I've seen people with a plug and a hole on the inner part here.
joe rogan
Oh, I've seen that, yeah.
jamie vernon
But this guy took it to a whole other fucking spot.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ian edwards
Oh, is it his nose?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
You can see inside his nose and shit.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That is insane.
jamie vernon
But, like, that definitely fucks with his hearing, 100%.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, 100%.
He's got a giant gauge hole in the bottom and a medium gauge hole in the top and then big ones on his nostrils where his nostrils he has like the bottom hole where his nostrils are and then above the nostril he's got two huge holes where you can see the septum.
ian edwards
He opened up the side of his nostrils.
jamie vernon
A quarter size hole easily, right?
joe rogan
I can't say that dude's real happy.
I just don't see it.
I don't understand that look.
But hey.
ian edwards
Hey man.
joe rogan
What are you going to do?
Ian Edwards will be with me with Dave Chappelle in Tacoma, Washington, and then Salt Lake City.
Salt Lake City the next day, which is August 3rd, tickets just went on sale.
ian edwards
Damn, so...
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think they're on sale on Friday.
Yeah.
But they went on pre-soil.
The way Dave does it, you have to register as a legit fan, like a human being.
They have to make sure that you're not a ticket agency that's scalping these tickets and buying them up in Massachusetts.
ian edwards
And then selling them back.
joe rogan
So Ian Edwards, you have to show your driver's license or something.
I don't know how they verify it.
And then once you register, then you could buy the tickets.
And it's for those people for a while.
And then after that, then it's opened up to the general public, I think, on Saturday.
Something like that.
But Ian's going to be with me.
unidentified
Donnell...
joe rogan
I don't know if...
ian edwards
Rollins?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know if that's been announced, but I just announced it.
Donnell Rollins is going to be there, too.
I'm fucking pumped.
We're going to have some fun.
ian edwards
That's going to be crazy.
joe rogan
Those are going to be wild.
ian edwards
That's going to be fucking crazy, bro.
Like, if this weekend was crazy, that weekend is going to be fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Tacoma sold out in a day.
20,000 people.
It's going to be nuts.
ian edwards
No sleep.
I'm not expecting any sleep.
joe rogan
No, we're going to have some fun.
ian edwards
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to be crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
All right, so tell people your special.
It's this weekend.
ian edwards
Friday, this Friday, July 12th on Comedy Central at midnight.
Check it out.
Ian Talks.
Bill Burr presents Ian Talk.
joe rogan
And if it, once it, All Things Comedy did it, right?
ian edwards
Yeah, All Things Comedy.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
And then once it's out, will it be able to be streamed on Comedy Central's streaming service?
ian edwards
Yeah, download the app or just go to ComedyCentral.com and you'll be able to see it there.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
ian edwards
Yeah.
joe rogan
Powerful Ian Edwards.
ian edwards
Thanks, brother.
joe rogan
Thank you, my friend.
Much love.
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