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May 30, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1306 - Wiz Khalifa
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joe rogan
58:02
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wiz khalifa
59:22
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jamie vernon
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unidentified
And we're going live.
wiz khalifa
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
Social media?
wiz khalifa
People love you, bro.
joe rogan
People love you too.
Oh, we're live?
We're doing it right now.
wiz khalifa
Super excited.
joe rogan
So we've...
God...
What's the word?
Gawked?
What's the word?
When you ogled over someone's body?
jamie vernon
Sure.
joe rogan
Dude, you got jacked.
You went from being skinny to shredded.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep.
joe rogan
You're pretty serious about MMA training, man.
wiz khalifa
It's really just about the lifestyle.
You know what I mean?
You're a martial artist, so you know, freaking the mind...
And the body and the soul go together.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
wiz khalifa
All of these things, I'm learning about them.
I'm able to put them all together.
You can't be a complete person until everything is together.
So, you know, spiritually I've already ascended above my peers.
Now I'm taking my body up there.
joe rogan
How do you do it spiritually?
Through that giant jug of weed you got on the table?
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
Stay high.
joe rogan
Yeah, for the folks only listening, Wiz brought literally like a mason jar filled with weed.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
And it's like halfway forward.
joe rogan
You have specific strains that you like?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I smoke the KK, Khalifa Kush.
joe rogan
Oh, you got your own shit.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because I got tired of smoking all different types of weed.
It's like a drink, you know what I'm saying?
Like alcohol.
People only drink dark liquor, whiskey.
joe rogan
I only smoke KK. Only KK. If you mix it up though, you'll get a big hit, right?
You switch it up to somebody else's stuff, your body's not ready for it.
wiz khalifa
My head will go crazy.
I'll really feel it.
You'll see me over in the corner of Stone somewhere.
I only have to smoke KK, that's it.
joe rogan
That's the weird thing about weed, right?
You get used to a certain strain.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Like, I'll get physically, like, ill if I don't smoke my strain.
I'll get runny nose.
Really?
Coughing.
Yeah, yeah.
I need KK. Wow.
Yeah, yup.
joe rogan
How much do you smoke a day?
wiz khalifa
Probably an ounce.
Like, a cool...
Jesus!
We burning a cool ounce.
unidentified
How about you?
joe rogan
I don't smoke that much.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, like a joint.
More like a joint a day.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
I would think that you were like just getting stoned all day.
joe rogan
I get stoned all day when I don't have shit to do.
wiz khalifa
Got you.
joe rogan
But if I have too much shit to do and I get stoned all day, that shit doesn't get done.
wiz khalifa
You said you like blunts?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Why do you like blunts?
joe rogan
Because a little tobacco gives you like this little extra high.
wiz khalifa
Yep, yep.
I'm glad you admitted it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Like, people who smoke blunts, they don't, some of them, they don't know that they're tobacco-ing.
And they try to mask it and say, no, you know, it's a leaf.
And it's like, no, bro, you like tobacco.
joe rogan
It's tobacco with weed.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
It's like a combo high.
wiz khalifa
It cuts it a little bit, too.
joe rogan
I like it before I go on stage.
It's my favorite before I go on stage.
It gives me a little pickup, but a little...
High, but a little like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
wiz khalifa
I'm happy how legal weed is these days because it's like...
My son had a spring concert yesterday, and I would feel like shit back in the day walking in there smelling like butt.
Because he goes to a private school, and it's like...
You know what I mean?
It's a reflection on him.
So it's like, you know, you got the weed head dad, blah, blah, blah, and other things.
But it's like nowadays, that shit is cool.
joe rogan
No one cares.
wiz khalifa
Nobody gives a fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen it happen because I have a 22-year-old daughter, but I also have an 11 and a 9-year-old.
And with the 22-year-old, when she was growing up, it was all weird.
It was weird.
It was like if you were a loser, if you were smoking weed.
wiz khalifa
Play dates, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, people coming over your house.
You got weed at the house.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, bro.
joe rogan
Parents get weird.
wiz khalifa
I live right up the street from the school, so I'm getting real technical with it.
I'm in a school zone.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Legitimately, yeah.
wiz khalifa
Bruh, I could be not here right now.
joe rogan
Incarcerated.
wiz khalifa
For real.
joe rogan
You see that lady they locked up today in Dallas?
Did you see that shit?
wiz khalifa
Nah, no.
joe rogan
An old lady, a grandmother.
They locked her up because she had CBD on her.
wiz khalifa
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, she was at Dallas Airport.
It's not even psychoactive.
And I think she had the oil for her skin.
wiz khalifa
Right.
Oh, they're just hating.
joe rogan
It's just ridiculous.
wiz khalifa
And she's an old lady, too.
joe rogan
Old lady.
Needs it for arthritis.
wiz khalifa
That's trash.
joe rogan
My wife's mom uses it for arthritis.
It's great for older folks.
wiz khalifa
CBD is the shit.
I was about to call her my ex-baby's mom.
She's still my baby's mom.
But she has another baby on the way in her new relationship.
But she's able to take CBD during her pregnancy to help her.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Her nausea and all that stuff.
So it's like, why would you hate on CBD, bro?
joe rogan
No, it's amazing.
wiz khalifa
It's the shit.
joe rogan
My friend's son has some seizures.
He has some sort of epileptic seizure.
Gives him CBD, it's gone.
Gives it every day, he doesn't have them anymore.
wiz khalifa
That's amazing.
I love that.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
wiz khalifa
That's so good.
joe rogan
It's almost, you feel like you're lying.
It does so many different things that when you talk about weed, you feel like you're lying.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
I mean, like, these days and this day and age, I was just telling somebody the other day, smoking pot is gonna be old school, like, you know what I mean?
We're still gonna do it, but it's totally moving towards just ingesting it and rubbing it on and all that shit.
joe rogan
Sprays.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, so people are less scared of it, and it works, like, fuck, like, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
The thing about the edibles though, it puts you in a weird place if you get too much.
I've seen some people melt down.
wiz khalifa
Yo, edibles are crazy.
So I got a homie who just took a THC pill yesterday and he was talking about types of shit like he was going to be awake.
That shit knocked him out.
He's probably still asleep.
Yeah, the edibles fuck you up.
You do edibles?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do, but I've had some bad experiences.
For real?
Not bad, but completely lost touch with this dimension.
wiz khalifa
Damn!
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
I had a friend who made THC pills.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
And I was taking them at a party once.
And it was a party for a jiu-jitsu tournament.
So it was a jiu-jitsu tournament, and then there was this party afterwards.
And by the time the pills had kicked in, I have no idea how much it was in there, because it was like some handmade shit that this guy put together himself with little capsules that you buy.
It was as high as I've ever been in my life, to the point where I wasn't even seeing people.
I was seeing a two-dimensional cutout of the person, and then behind them, I was seeing their true intention, their soul peeking out.
wiz khalifa
I was really high.
joe rogan
And I was talking to this one dude.
And he was just, he was a high level jujitsu guy.
He was really odd.
It was a very strange feeling I got talking to this cat.
And then, like, a month later he was on the run for rape.
Yeah, he had raped some woman, and then he escaped, and then he was so addicted to jiu-jitsu, the story was that he started training again with a fake name.
But he was like this high-level black belt.
And there's only that, especially back then when this happened, this was like the early 2000s, there's only a certain number of high-level black belts that are running around.
So he put on this fake Brazilian name and started training in the Pacific Northwest.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What the fuck?
But he's strangling black belts and everybody's like, what the fuck is, who is this guy?
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
So people ask, did someone take a picture of him?
And they go, that guy's wanted for rape.
wiz khalifa
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
But I remember talking to him on these THC pills being like, there's some wiring that's not correct here.
wiz khalifa
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Damn, dog.
That's a, whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
THC pills.
joe rogan
Yeah, they expose things.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, they do, bro.
I did mushrooms and it exposed a lot.
Yeah, yep.
Do you do shrooms?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep.
I fuck with mushrooms because that's what happened with me when I was on mushrooms.
I was able to see people's true intentions.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Because being a rapper and shit like that, you know, you'd be having to peel back the layers.
joe rogan
Layers and layers and layers.
wiz khalifa
I was trying to peel my own layers back just for my own personal Everyone is, right?
And I ended up being backstage somewhere, and I was like, fuck!
I'm around all these people, and I really see their true intentions.
And I was like, I see what crowd they are, and I felt like I was separated.
You know what I mean?
I was on a boat all the way out here, and they were all on an island partying, and I was like, damn.
I could see what's going on over there, but...
It was cool.
I do mushrooms every now and then.
I don't fuck with it all the time.
I haven't done them in like three years because they help you see shit like that.
So it's like for me, I'll take that experience and I'll just live with it.
I don't need to keep going through it over and over.
You've probably seen that dude and was like, oh shit, now I know people who are rapey as soon as I see them.
joe rogan
I knew he was dangerous.
He was a legitimately dangerous person.
unidentified
That's insane, bro.
joe rogan
Not just a trained killer, but he was dangerous, like the way he thought about things.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
That's wild.
There's people like that out there.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you don't know until you experience it, and that was a mild experience compared to most people's encounters.
There's a lot of psychos out there.
wiz khalifa
Fucking crazy motherfuckers, bro.
I know just probably in fighting, too.
That's why I feel like more people need to smoke weed and train.
joe rogan
I think so, too.
wiz khalifa
Because it balances.
joe rogan
The training is great, man.
It alleviates all that shit with most people.
But there's going to be some dudes just like that guy that are just...
They're just out there.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, they're taking it to that level.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
When you think about the world of fighting and competition, you're dealing with people that are taking the biggest risks.
They don't have to do that.
This is a choice.
They could get a job.
The choice is I want to get a job trying to fuck up other people who have a job trying to fuck up people The killers the trained killers just going after each other, right?
Right when you're around those dudes one of the things you one of the things you realize very early on you that you can have your preconceived Notions about them being like me like mean people or violent people, right?
They're people of character Yes, sir.
You have to have extreme character to pull off what they do.
Yeah Yeah, there's some of the best people I've ever met my life for fighters.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
joe rogan
I They're a different breed of human being.
They chose that path.
They chose it.
No one's forcing them.
We're not in war.
They decide to go and do that.
That's why it's so exciting to watch, right?
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
Because you know that they're putting everything on the line.
wiz khalifa
Right.
I look at it like, like you said, they chose that.
So to become an athlete, to choose to fight, you know what I mean?
And a lot of them are really, like you said, smart and they're technical, especially how the sport is developing these days because people don't want the long-term damage, but they want to still, you know what I mean, go hard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
They're coming up with fucking all types of ways to do this shit.
And it's like, at the end of the day, you have to be creative or you have to have some type of something up here.
You know what I mean?
You're not just fighting to be fighting, you know?
So, yeah.
joe rogan
I think they all go in for the same reason.
They're trying to find out if they can do it, right?
In the beginning.
Then they have just a drive to prove that they're the best.
wiz khalifa
Right.
I was just talking to somebody the other day about that.
Um...
It was like a crazy argument because they were saying how fight fans are just there for knockouts.
And I was like, you definitely have your knockout fans.
I was like, those are probably the people who pay the most, you know what I mean?
But I was like, you got to give credit to a lot of people who understand fighting and love it.
are viewing it for that aspect.
It's like, you know, when you watch football, like a lot of people played football and, you know, wish they could have been that person on the field, they just haven't.
You know what I mean?
So I was trying to explain to them, I was like, there's a huge crowd of people who actually know about this shit and who are knowledgeable and those people support it as well.
joe rogan
It was weird. - Yeah, I feel you.
I know exactly what you're saying.
There's some people that just want to see people get beat up, and some people that want to see Floyd Mayweather duck punches.
One of the best things about Floyd Mayweather and Canelo wasn't that Floyd beat Canelo up.
He outboxed him, but he showed this level of defense.
If you're a boxing fan, you're like, Jesus Christ!
He knows everything that's coming.
He's always in the right angle.
He's always one step ahead.
And that's why he's so good.
His defense is...
Floyd's only been hit a few times his whole career.
Really hard.
Shane hit him a couple times.
Was it Maidana?
Maidana hit him really hard once.
wiz khalifa
And they fucking save the clip and play it over and over again.
He can be hit!
Really?
joe rogan
You think about other boxers, how much they get hit compared to Floyd.
I love watching that.
I love watching someone who can move like that.
wiz khalifa
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Like, my favorite fighter to watch in the UFC was Mighty Mouse.
wiz khalifa
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Not just because he was the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet, but because he was not getting hit.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
He was...
Occasionally, someone would tell, like, John Majorga tagged him on the straight left.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Occasionally, some guys hit him.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
But most times, things are just grazing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Most times, things are getting blocked.
wiz khalifa
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
And even if he gets hit, he's moving.
wiz khalifa
Right, right.
joe rogan
It's a...
He's a puzzle.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If you're a fan of martial arts, you want to see the master of the puzzle.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
Yeah, hell yeah.
And I don't count them people out, and I wouldn't fucking sit in front of a dude and let him just be like, oh yeah, everybody wants to see knockouts.
I'm like, nah, bro.
It's not like that, fam.
joe rogan
I think everybody likes both things, though.
It's like when you get Arturo Gotti versus Mickey Ward.
Did you ever see that fight?
wiz khalifa
I would have to go back.
joe rogan
It was a trilogy of...
Fucking wars between these two guys that were not champ.
They were they were like one step below at the time of their career being like championship level, right?
So they weren't like in threat of fighting for the title No one thought like Floyd was better than both of them by far, right?
But what they were doing was showing that two guys that are similarly talented can Put on like the most entertaining fight in the world.
It was incredible.
It's crazy War back and forth and back for I like watching that too Yeah, yup.
You know?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I want to see a good fight, me personally.
joe rogan
I like watching both things.
I like watching someone just completely willy pep somebody, just like Pernell Whitaker used to do.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
He's a great boxer.
joe rogan
He couldn't hit him.
wiz khalifa
Nope.
joe rogan
He was so slick.
wiz khalifa
Nope.
joe rogan
You know, and you can only do that for so long, like, in any sport.
You can only be at the top for so long.
If you watch those performances when those guys are at the top, that shows you what's possible.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
And it's good to see somebody, like, master their craft, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Because you see them come up.
Like, you watch them be I, and then it's like they become the shit, and it's like, oh, yeah, like, you know what I mean?
I've seen this dude, like, start from just being okay, and now he's just fucking shit up.
You see him learn, and you see him develop, and all of that stuff is fun.
Like, you grow with him.
joe rogan
That's a good combination of getting to the bottom of shit is weed and martial arts.
That's a good combination.
wiz khalifa
100%.
joe rogan
It really is.
wiz khalifa
A lot of my thinking is just from after I train, I just sit there and just think about nothing, but you know what I mean?
Ideas come to me.
How to deal with situations.
You know what I mean?
Because it just...
I don't know.
It just happens like that.
It just flows.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it flows.
And I think the training helps you get all the bullshit off your back.
wiz khalifa
Right.
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
Especially for me too because like...
I party a lot and I'm in the studio till like 5, 6 in the morning and I'm drinking and stuff like that.
So to just be going down that path and doing that every day, bro, I look crazy.
I feel crazy.
I have to get that off of me, like out of me.
You know what I mean?
That's why...
Your gym is crazy, bro.
I need to do something like that for myself.
joe rogan
It's nice to have.
wiz khalifa
At some point.
That's how I look at you like the OG. So it's like, I'm not going to go do it tomorrow.
Like, hey, everybody build me a gym.
But, you know, eventually that's the goal.
When I look back, I'll be like, I've seen Joe's gym, and that's what made me.
joe rogan
Well, dude, you train hard.
I've seen your videos.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I get to work.
joe rogan
You work at Unbreakable?
Yeah, yeah.
Is that your spot?
Yeah, that's a great gym.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it's a really good gym.
Jay Glazer, he owns that spot.
joe rogan
Very, very impressive place.
He put together an awesome place.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, it's cool.
The team there is good.
Like I said, it's not all about just fighting and being the biggest, baddest, meanest motherfucker.
They really taught me about my body.
That's what they do.
They teach you there.
Whatever your goals are, they bring you up to that speed.
I weighed like 140 pounds.
Ever since I got out of high school.
And I was like, fuck, I gotta gain some weight.
And they helped me out.
joe rogan
And doesn't Snoop train there too?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's this video of Snoop sparring.
He's sparring Daniel Serafian.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
Daniel's fucking crazy.
unidentified
He's a beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know that guy.
I've called his fights before.
He's a tank.
wiz khalifa
He is crazy.
joe rogan
That guy's a tank.
unidentified
Nuts.
wiz khalifa
His thing is like, yo, I gotta get hit.
I'm like, alright, Daniel.
You know?
joe rogan
He's got to get hit to wake himself up?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, go ahead.
joe rogan
Wow.
Take those hits, Danny.
There's Snoop's barn with him.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, Snoop was going at it, too.
He was trying to take him out.
joe rogan
Dude, Snoop throws some good shots, man.
wiz khalifa
Oh, that's him right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, Snoop's got skills.
He really does.
wiz khalifa
I'm glad Daniel ducked that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I guarantee you, Snoop would fuck up a lot of people in a regular fist fight.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
He's tall as shit, too.
Look at him.
wiz khalifa
Coming at him like that.
Look at those arms.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Look at that.
Go ahead, Snoop.
joe rogan
That's Seraphian.
That guy's a tank.
Yeah, he fought in the UFC for a while.
He's still fighting, still active.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I think he's in Brazil right now.
unidentified
Is he?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, he was working at the gym for a minute, and then I guess he chilled out.
joe rogan
Anyway, my point was, the videos, it's nice to see, because you're training hard.
I'm watching you do Muay Thai, hit the pads.
I'm like, dude, you're really putting your work on this.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, sure.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
wiz khalifa
It's an everyday thing.
It's a journey.
You know what I mean?
I'm just trying to learn.
Ernie Reyes is my...
Oh, shit.
That's Senchai right there.
unidentified
That was fun.
wiz khalifa
He was teaching me some stuff.
That was early, though.
I suck right there.
joe rogan
Still though, you are sparring right there with one of the greatest Muay Thai fighters, if not the greatest of all time.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that dude is super tight.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, he's really good.
joe rogan
His videos, like highlights.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ever see that jumping left switch kick he knocked that dude out with?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's outstanding.
wiz khalifa
He got some crazy kicks.
joe rogan
So how cool is that, man?
You're sparring with one of the greatest of all time.
wiz khalifa
It's fun as fuck.
Because it's like...
Those people, like you know about fighters, the majority, like you said, when you meet them, they're cool as hell.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
So to meet him and him not want to whoop my ass or like tell me like, hey, you look goofy, sit down.
He's like showing me shit that I could use later.
So I was like, it was cool.
joe rogan
Well, the Thais have a really interesting way of sparring.
Some of them do.
They play.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
They don't hit each other full blast.
They like tap and they laugh around and joke around.
They're just developing their timing because they fight so often.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
John Wayne Parr is a friend of mine from Australia, multiple-time world champion.
And he would talk in depth about how they would play.
They just play.
They just hit each other, just slap each other a little bit.
And that way, they understand the timing of it, but they never worry about it.
They don't get hurt.
And they can do it all the time.
It's a really smart way to do it.
But you'll see guys like Serafian, he's capable of doing that.
So he could spar with a guy like Snoop, or a guy like Sanchai could spar with a guy like you and just play with you.
Everybody just have a good time and it's fun at the end.
unidentified
Yep.
wiz khalifa
Super fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
Yep.
Hell yeah.
Definitely seen that a lot on Instagram.
And even with my trainers, we'll do it.
Me and Ernie, we were just doing that yesterday where it's developing the timing of the kicks.
Where it's like, you kick me, I kick you.
I kick you, you kick me.
I kick you twice.
You kick me three times.
I kick you once.
Like you said, just playing around.
And when you've got a good sparring partner, you take care of each other.
joe rogan
Exactly.
wiz khalifa
You don't hurt each other.
There's no ego involved.
And the ties, they do knees.
They'll knee the fuck out of each other.
It looks kind of hard, but they're just making their bodies harder, like you said, for later.
Because they're used to it.
joe rogan
A lot of times they'll slap each other with the side of their leg, too.
Rather than really drive the knee in.
wiz khalifa
You just hear a smack.
joe rogan
They're just slapping each other a little bit.
Obviously, it's very effective.
Like, they figured something out.
wiz khalifa
You got some crazy kicks.
joe rogan
Thank you.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I seen, what was it, a sidekick that you did?
joe rogan
Probably a turning sidekick.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, you gotta teach me that.
joe rogan
I'll teach you that.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I just need the form.
Because I'm learning just a regular sidekick, like a slide.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You should go to a Taekwondo school.
They'd be the best at showing you how to do it.
I'll definitely show you how, but if you need a place to train, find a really good Taekwondo school.
Taekwondo has some things that won't work in MMA if you're adding takedowns and punches to the face.
But because they don't punch to the face in tournaments, you get used to doing crazy kicks.
wiz khalifa
Crazy ass kicks.
joe rogan
They have a lot of weird leg dexterity stuff.
And if you get good at that stuff, I think that's...
If I had a kid that wanted to fight, I would say, let's just do some Kyokushin or some Taekwondo first.
Just do some karate, something where you develop in leg dexterity.
Then, as you get a little older, then move you into Muay Thai.
So you could do both things.
Because when guys are constantly chomping at the legs...
They never really develop the kind of spinning kicks that the guys do where they don't kick the legs.
Those are the guys who develop the best spinning kicks because it's so easy to chop the legs and effective to chop the legs out.
So a lot of those techniques don't really get dialed in to the level that they get dialed in from a Taekwondo guy because they can't kick each other in the legs.
It's kind of a dumb way to fight because you should kick the legs but at the end of the day it allowed them to develop some crazy shit.
A lot of weird spinning stuff.
wiz khalifa
You don't see...
joe rogan
Some of those guys are so fast.
And the power is insane.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, because it's all momentum and torque and crazy shit.
joe rogan
It's hard to develop.
It's hard to develop those techniques.
wiz khalifa
It's like a lot of posture and you got to be balanced.
That knee is everything.
That's just how you aim it.
When you're spinning or even if you're just standing there, you have to have...
Right.
coming at somebody, spinning, blitzing, doing all types of shit.
So, it's different for sure.
joe rogan
It's really good for your balance too.
You do that as a young kid and learn some other shit later.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You'll have balance.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that's what I've seen when you kicked the fuck out of that shit.
I was like, yo, it's really balanced and straight.
You know what I mean?
Because a lot of people, you might be strong as fuck, but you can see technique.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
wiz khalifa
You know what I mean?
If you do the shit over and over and over and really perfect it, that's different than just being able to throw a strong kick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Technique's everything, man.
It's that way in jujitsu.
It's got to be that way in music.
It's got to be that way in everything.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, definitely, man.
I'm in the studio all the time practicing.
I could write a song before this interview is over, but that's because I practice.
It's not because I'm the most lyrical person in the world.
It's like, I just fucking rap every day.
You know what I mean?
It should come easy.
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you write, do you write things out or do you do it out in your head?
Like, I know Jay-Z supposedly doesn't write anything, right?
He just keeps it all in his head?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Which is incredible.
wiz khalifa
It's awesome.
joe rogan
That he can do that.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
It's kind of insane.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, yup.
I have different processes.
So, like, for me, I have melodies.
Like, I'll sing and I'll rap.
So it's a lot easier for me to just have a melody in my head and make up the words as I go.
But if I'm writing lyrics, like writing words down where I actually rap it, That's when I'm going to use the paper, you know?
But there's different ways to do it because, honestly, this is what my studio setup looks like.
It's like a chair.
The mic is right here.
I don't go in the booth or anything, and my engineer is sitting right there.
So it's like we're coming up with it as we go.
I'll take a little break, write something down, and then I'll just jump straight back on it, you know what I mean?
So there's different techniques, though, because a lot of the time, sometimes I won't write shit.
I'll just go and just make it up and just keep going, keep flowing.
Or there's times where I could just lay a melody and then write the words to it later.
So it's just different ways to approach it.
joe rogan
So you just do it based on however you feel that day?
wiz khalifa
Whatever the track really calls for.
If the song is something that I get instant inspiration, I'm like, oh, I'm going to knock it out right now.
Or if it's something that I want to live with for a little bit, I'll just do as much as I'm happy with at that point.
And then move on to the next thing.
Come back to it later and just make sure everything is fresh.
I like to keep everything fresh.
Keep it fun.
Keep it loose.
And I don't really overthink anything.
If it's not there, then I just go away from it and find something that's more fun.
Hell yeah!
joe rogan
It's a beautiful freedom to be able to do that.
You obviously picked the right fucking job.
wiz khalifa
I swear, like, you know, it's work because I'm always looking for what's next, you know what I mean?
For the fans, for the listeners, for the people who supported me all the way to this point.
I'm like, okay, I got to push myself.
I got to do what's next.
It's got to be crazy, you know what I mean?
I got a son.
He's sick, so it's like I got to impress him.
I can't have him just listening to a whole bunch of other rappers and not my music.
So it's like, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's, you know, it is an interesting responsibility you have, right?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And a guy like you becomes famous.
It's interesting, like you have so many people that want, you know, and I think we need to call it a different thing other than work.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's like, there's work, like, fuck, I work for UPS. Right.
Yeah, it's cool, they got good benefits, but that's work.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But what you're doing is like, you love it.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, hell yeah.
joe rogan
You know, when you love something, it almost, we need a better word.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
That it's the same word as working at McDonald's.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The same word, work.
wiz khalifa
Work, uh...
I don't know what the word would be.
joe rogan
You need a better word for a passion project.
For being able to do what you want to do.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
joe rogan
Whatever that thing is.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
No, I believe that.
That's a good point.
Because it's not the same work.
It's not the same thing.
joe rogan
No, it's not the same thing.
We need a better word.
wiz khalifa
We've done our work.
We put in the work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that's why we're here.
joe rogan
If you had a shit job in your life, you'd know what that is.
That's work.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, we put in the work.
We've done that.
joe rogan
But saying I'm going to work when you're going to do something you love, you're excited about.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
We need a better word.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I think.
wiz khalifa
Nah, it's true.
That's why people get pissed at me.
They're not going to work.
There's 100 girls there.
joe rogan
Bro, I had a punch in just like you.
unidentified
ha ha ha ha I'm going to go back.
joe rogan
Yeah, in that sense, the world's just not fair.
You know?
Some people's jobs are not the same.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I mean, fuck.
joe rogan
Do you stop and think about how fortunate you are?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
Yeah, I thank God every day, bro.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
wiz khalifa
All the time, because it is a blessing.
I'm literally, like, last night, I'm, like, right in...
A song and the only problem that I had was a girl's ass was right on me.
And I was like, baby, I'm enjoying this as much as you are, but I got it physically right.
So your ass is moving my arm around.
You can do that, but just right there.
You know what I mean?
And I started thinking to myself, wow, these are my problems.
That's cool.
joe rogan
Just need a little bit of discipline.
wiz khalifa
I'm cool with that.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I'm cool with that.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
That's amazing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
And the song got written.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Job got done.
Yeah, there's another word, right?
That does not work.
You are not working.
You're working.
Obviously, you're working at it, but it needs a better word, a more, a nobler word.
wiz khalifa
The fans will come up with the word for sure.
They're way more creative.
They got way more time on their hands.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they will.
wiz khalifa
They'll figure it out.
joe rogan
And we'll report back.
wiz khalifa
For sure.
joe rogan
We'll find it.
It just makes sense.
There's no way it's the same thing.
It can't be.
wiz khalifa
Nah, hell nah.
For sure.
Nope.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's why I always tell people, people always try to think down.
They always try to think, man, that's easy for you to say, or not everybody can make it.
Yeah, you're right.
Not everybody can.
wiz khalifa
Truth.
joe rogan
But maybe you can.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
Not everybody can.
wiz khalifa
Not everybody can.
joe rogan
Not everybody's going to do everything.
Not everybody's going to walk to the top of the hill.
wiz khalifa
That's the thing.
joe rogan
Some people are going to stop halfway and go, I can't do it.
wiz khalifa
That's the thing.
People limit themselves in a crazy way.
They're like, Oh yeah, everybody can't do it.
Like you said, it's like, no, everybody can't do it.
It takes a lot.
You know what I mean?
You gotta fucking go through the shit to get it.
But when you get there, it looks awesome, right?
Yeah.
I mean, fuck.
joe rogan
Just whatever it is.
Just try to figure it out and go do it.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Like you said, the top of the hill looks great, but...
Some people settle for the middle.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they get mad if people get to the top.
This motherfucker.
You know, they get mad.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
joe rogan
At the top, man, there's no one who's like you who doesn't work hard.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
That's the myth, right?
wiz khalifa
That's the thing, too.
joe rogan
I mean, again, the wrong word for it.
Passion hard, whatever it is.
wiz khalifa
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Dedicated to your craft.
wiz khalifa
Maintaining it, there's an art to that, right?
Because you work so freaking hard to get to where you're at.
And then you get there and it's like, oh fuck, what do I do?
joe rogan
There's no rest.
wiz khalifa
There's no rest.
And everything that was acceptable before becomes unacceptable because now you're up here.
You know what I mean?
So it's like...
Yeah, you have to pick your shots.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't really just go crazy like you did back in the day.
So there's an art to it.
You know what I mean?
And that's how you really maintain and stay in that spot and even level up.
joe rogan
So do you consciously think, okay, balance out enjoyment with things that I have to do to stay disciplined?
wiz khalifa
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
100%.
joe rogan
That's a very smart way of looking at it.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep.
100%.
There has to be a balance of each.
Because now I'm at this new level.
Whether I want to behave like this or not, I put myself here.
I worked hard.
Now I'm with these elite motherfuckers.
So this is how I have to act because I'm not down here anymore.
I worked from here to get here.
So what happens?
You balance.
You put things into place.
You do a little bit of this and a little bit of that instead of a lot of that.
You know what I mean?
And you just pick your shots.
And it's like, you're going to get everything in the end.
This is how it's just planned and how it's supposed to be.
But you just piece it together just a little bit differently.
Like, I just turned 31. Well, damn, I'm about to be 32. That's young to a lot of people.
That's old to some people as well.
But for me, it's like...
There's a whole new mind state, you know what I mean?
And I feel like through my 20s, I was actually like a fucking teenager.
And like now I'm an adult.
So now I look at things a little bit differently.
It's like, yo, I was really a kid.
This is how you behave as an adult for the rest of your life.
And it still involves a whole bunch of partying and having fun, but the business gets handled and things get approached totally differently.
joe rogan
That's a balanced way of looking at it, man.
I love it.
Enjoy it.
This other thing, too, like, people have to understand, to be someone like you, to be a very successful rapper, and to not expect you to live the way you talk about all the time, is so ridiculous.
wiz khalifa
Right, right, right, right, right.
joe rogan
Like, you don't think he wants a party?
He's talking about partying all the time.
I think he wants a party.
I think he likes partying.
This is just an act.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, no.
joe rogan
It's weird, right?
wiz khalifa
It's crazy as fuck because people, they want you to be you.
They want me to be myself.
They want to party.
They want to take shots.
They want to smoke weed.
They want to stay up all night.
joe rogan
Yeah, why is that bad?
wiz khalifa
It's not.
joe rogan
So many people want to do it.
But it gives this image in some people's minds of frivolous life, frivolous thinking, partying.
What are you doing?
Drinking and smoking.
What are you, enjoying yourself?
wiz khalifa
And then they come around and do the same thing because they want it.
I have a weird place in life where I think I'm the key to a lot of shit because if you want to enjoy yourself, I'm the guy.
You know what I mean?
It's like, oh man, I'm just fucking gonna live through Wiz.
When Wiz shows up, he's gonna light the joint.
It's gonna be amazing.
If you wanna fucking be professional, like, especially in what I do, because there's a whole lot of...
Rappers who aren't business, you know what I mean?
They're not thinking like that.
So for those guys, I'm their guy.
They look at me like, Wiz has his shit together.
He really handles his business.
He talks to people.
He shows up.
He does this.
He does that.
So to be the party guy and the business guy, it's amazing, you know what I mean?
It's a lane that I kind of carve for myself, but it's me in real life.
So it's like that's the only thing I have to do is really just completely be myself.
Just be 100, fucking show up, do my business thing, tell people to do the right thing, and fucking light the joint.
You know what I mean?
That's it.
joe rogan
That's a crazy business, sir.
wiz khalifa
I'm good.
I'm straight like that.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
People listening to this are probably like, wow.
You could be yourself for a living.
wiz khalifa
For sure, bro.
It's a blessing.
It's a blessing.
joe rogan
I had John Witherspoon on yesterday with his son, JD. Okay.
You know, Pops Witherspoon?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep.
joe rogan
And that's basically what he is.
He's one of the funniest fucking human beings that's ever lived.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
And just keep a camera on him.
Just keep a camera on him.
unidentified
That's the whole show.
wiz khalifa
I don't think I ever met family in real life.
joe rogan
Oh, he's amazing.
He's so funny.
wiz khalifa
He's legit?
joe rogan
My face was hurting.
By the end of the day, like, the cheekbone muscles, they're like, ah!
wiz khalifa
Yeah, he probably got some crazy ass stories.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
wiz khalifa
That motherfucker been in the game forever and forever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's who he is.
He got paid to be who he is.
Figured out how to just be who he is all the time.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
It's insane.
wiz khalifa
Damn, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it's not limited to one or two of us, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a bunch of different paths.
wiz khalifa
That's the cold part.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yep, yep.
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
So how many years have you been training martial arts now?
wiz khalifa
This is my second year.
joe rogan
Wow!
wiz khalifa
Yeah, only two years.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
wiz khalifa
I gained, what, 35 pounds?
joe rogan
Pull up a video of him hitting pads.
That's incredible.
wiz khalifa
Is it a new video?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Tell them what video to pull up.
wiz khalifa
Nah, it's probably going to be old, but it's all good, though.
You know how we are.
joe rogan
You can hit hard.
You have good technique.
wiz khalifa
I'm learning.
joe rogan
You turn your hips and shoulders into things.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, yep.
I'm learning.
joe rogan
You do it right.
unidentified
Thank you, bro.
joe rogan
So that's very impressive that it's only two years in.
wiz khalifa
Yo, I'm learning.
unidentified
That's the thing.
It's awesome, man.
joe rogan
I love it.
I love it when people take a chance to and they try something new.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that's old, but, you know, we'll get there.
joe rogan
So how many...
How months had you been in here?
Like, you say this is old.
wiz khalifa
This was probably like a year in.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this was a year ago.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep.
joe rogan
Dude, seriously though.
Good technique for someone who's been doing it a year.
The way you're moving.
I mean, there's no fat to your movements.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
See what I'm saying?
Like, everything you're doing...
It might not be the fastest in the world or the most devastating, but you're doing it perfect.
wiz khalifa
Thank you.
joe rogan
You're doing exactly how you're supposed to do it, and then you just get better and better from there.
wiz khalifa
There you go.
joe rogan
But what we were talking about is the change in your physique, man.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
I mean, you became fucking shredded.
wiz khalifa
Right, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's impressive.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, thank you.
joe rogan
That's only through hard work.
You can't do it any other way.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, just working and eating.
I was, oh, I'm sorry.
That's my fucking doorbell.
It's hard to cut that off.
Sorry about that, guys.
joe rogan
That's no worries, man.
Welcome to the wonderful world of convenience.
wiz khalifa
There we go.
Bam.
Yeah, eating like a motherfucker, bro.
I had to force myself to eat.
joe rogan
To gain weight?
wiz khalifa
To gain weight.
Yeah.
Fucking just moving around so much.
I already have a quick metabolism, so then you add working out to that.
unidentified
Ooh.
wiz khalifa
So it's like, I'm burning so much.
Setting alarms to eat.
Really?
Yeah, yep.
Getting a little bit more rest, too.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Setting alarms to eat?
Like, how does that work?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, like...
joe rogan
You wake up and then you eat and then you go back to sleep?
wiz khalifa
Wake up, eat, go back to sleep, go train, eat, go to sleep.
unidentified
What kind of farts are you brewing?
wiz khalifa
Eat right before you go to sleep.
joe rogan
Oh my Jesus Christ.
wiz khalifa
I do a lot of like...
Like ginger shots and shit like that to help.
Turmeric?
Yeah, turmeric, all of that shit too.
Because like you said, that shit can fuck your stomach up.
joe rogan
Who told you to get up in the middle of the night and eat though?
wiz khalifa
My trainer?
joe rogan
Yeah?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I would say that your sleep cycle is more important than anything.
wiz khalifa
Oh, well, it's not like breaking my sleep.
It's like more like, yo, eat.
joe rogan
Oh, you mean like you set an alarm while you're awake?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, okay, okay.
I see what you're saying.
I've never heard anybody telling someone to wake up in the middle of the night and eat.
wiz khalifa
Nah.
joe rogan
No, I did hear that.
That's why it was weird.
I heard that from, there was that movie with Clint Eastwood where he played a boxing trainer and his daughter, that famous actress, played a boxer.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
Remember that?
unidentified
Billion Dollar Baby or something, Million Dollar Baby?
joe rogan
When that actress, what is her name?
jamie vernon
Hilary Swank.
joe rogan
Hilary Swank.
Good job.
Thank you, look at Jamie, he's on the ball.
wiz khalifa
Good job, man.
joe rogan
When she was training for that, I think that's what I read, that they had alarms set where she would wake up In the middle of the night and have a protein shake.
wiz khalifa
Oh, really?
joe rogan
And then go back to sleep again.
wiz khalifa
Nah, I'm not doing that.
joe rogan
Okay.
wiz khalifa
Nah, no breaking to sleep.
Just regular eating habits.
Just reminding myself.
You know what I mean?
Because I was eating like twice a day on some rockstar shit.
Can't live like that, bro.
That shit is whack.
joe rogan
Do you have a nutritionist or someone who handles your meals?
wiz khalifa
Meal preps.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got that?
wiz khalifa
Because I don't cook.
unidentified
Right.
wiz khalifa
So it's like they just deliver my meals.
joe rogan
That's nice.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
It's really nice, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, because I'm single, so it's like I don't really got nobody in the house cooking or making all that shit happen for me.
Right.
It just comes to the door.
joe rogan
So you can make sure everything's healthy, exactly what you want.
It's all there.
It's set up for you.
wiz khalifa
It's fresh every couple days.
joe rogan
That's a good thing to not have to think about.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep.
The food is like a big part of it.
Working out is one thing.
People just want to get big.
Like you said, well, like we were talking about, it's like mind, body, and soul, right?
So the food is for the soul.
joe rogan
Keep that fucking meat alive.
Keep the body moving.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
Are you...
Do you ever do yoga or anything like that?
wiz khalifa
I would.
joe rogan
You would?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
I need a yoga instructor.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Who's the best yoga-ist?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
wiz khalifa
You do yoga?
joe rogan
Yeah, I love it.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
How long...
Oh, yeah, I see you do, like, some hot yoga and shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
That shit's intense, right?
joe rogan
It's kind of intense, yeah.
But it's great for you, man.
It stretches you out, loosens you up.
wiz khalifa
That's what I need to do.
I need to stretch.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
I do, like...
Regular, normal stretching, but some yoga would be alright.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good too because the heat in the room, everything gets real loose.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can really kind of dig into certain things to test your flexibility, to stretch things out a little bit more.
wiz khalifa
Got you.
joe rogan
Just keeps you pliable.
wiz khalifa
Got you.
joe rogan
When you're doing a lot of hard things like Muay Thai or weightlifting, everything's hard.
There's not enough stretching things out and maintaining your range of motion.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially as you get older.
wiz khalifa
How often do you do it?
joe rogan
I try to do it at least once a week, but I often fail.
But two times a week on a good week.
Okay.
But I can't do one thing every day.
I get bored.
So in order to stay active, I just have to do a bunch of different things.
wiz khalifa
That makes sense.
joe rogan
So whether it's martial arts or running or lifting or whatever it is.
wiz khalifa
I feel like through time you added those things in, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
It was just like, alright, I'm going to do this.
joe rogan
Yeah, the hill running is the most recent thing.
wiz khalifa
Okay, cool.
So what's hill running?
joe rogan
I take my dog running through these steep-ass fucking hills and then, you know, sprinting up these...
It's the most ruthless workout.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You know, if you ever run hills...
wiz khalifa
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know what's the worst?
wiz khalifa
Sand dunes.
Yeah, I don't like it.
joe rogan
Sand dunes are the worst.
wiz khalifa
That probably sucks.
joe rogan
It sucks.
You never get up there.
You keep pushing, and you're pushing sand and pushing sand.
You don't ever bounce off anything.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You're just pushing through soft shit.
wiz khalifa
It's ruthless.
And you're trying to find balance.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
That's some real martial arts shit, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
That's some mental shit, too.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're learning about yourself when you're running up a fucking sand dune.
wiz khalifa
You're mastering a fucking moving thing.
Things melting the whole time you're trying.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
And you're forcing your body to do what your mind wants it to.
wiz khalifa
That's crazy.
joe rogan
You're like, listen, bitch, I know you don't want to do this.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're going to do this.
wiz khalifa
That's like, I heard the Diaz brothers do some crazy shit, like swimming.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, they do triathlons.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Nick Diaz, I think it's now five times that he swam back from Alcatraz.
wiz khalifa
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Alcatraz, man.
unidentified
Sharks.
wiz khalifa
Sharks.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
I'm with you.
wiz khalifa
Fuck that.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
unidentified
Those guys are so crazy.
wiz khalifa
That's like you in the sand dunes, though.
joe rogan
Well, I don't do sand dunes.
If I had one near me, I would do it.
I'd run hills, which is definitely easier than sand dunes.
But it's still hard as fuck.
Good, steep-ass hill.
It's the best for training.
wiz khalifa
Is it grass?
joe rogan
Yeah, dirt.
Dirt, rocks.
wiz khalifa
Just anything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just trails.
wiz khalifa
Damn, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
I'm gonna get there someday.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
wiz khalifa
You see me blazing up some hills.
unidentified
You want to come with me?
joe rogan
I'll take you out one day.
We'll go running together.
wiz khalifa
I like to hike.
joe rogan
It's a great workout, man.
And the thing about it is it amps everything else out.
Yeah.
It makes you kicking stronger.
It gives you more wind.
It just accentuates your ability to explode because you're running hills.
So you're always going up.
It's like you're doing these crazy plyometrics and you just develop this way stronger power in your legs and your lower trunk.
You just boom!
More kicking power.
wiz khalifa
That makes sense.
I feel like I would fuck with it.
joe rogan
Dude, you'd love it.
wiz khalifa
Because I like to just tune shit out and just go.
So the pain from running up the hill...
I would be like, yes.
I'm not even going to think about this.
I'm going to think about something else.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you get a goal, right?
You set a goal, like a mile.
Put yourself at one mile, and then turn around and go back for the other mile.
And if you can do that on good, steep-ass hills, when you're done, you feel like you fought a battle with your brain.
It's like, you know you didn't want to do that, but you did it.
wiz khalifa
Damn, dawg.
Alright.
joe rogan
That's nothing compared to what some people do.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, but nah, that sounds like something that we could unlock later on in my life.
joe rogan
I think for everybody...
Doing something that's super strenuous all the time is important.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
For sure.
wiz khalifa
That's part of the reason why I fuck with training so much because it's not easy and it breaks you.
But you reach points where it's like, okay, now I'm just cruising so I need another challenge.
You're just sharpening the shit after a certain point so it's like, alright, now I'm going to go.
Run some sand dunes.
Swim from Alcatraz.
So yeah, I get it.
joe rogan
There's dunes somewhere down near Orange County that are pretty famous.
jamie vernon
Manhattan Beach, Sand Dune Park.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
wiz khalifa
It's a park?
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's a video of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook training there I was about to pull up.
joe rogan
Yeah, pull that shit up.
I want to see somebody run on those dunes.
wiz khalifa
Oh, Westbrook be doing it?
Alright, cut.
joe rogan
I know a lot of fighters do it.
In Australia, I believe Robert Whittaker does it.
Yeah, see, when you're doing shit like this on Sam, that is phenomenal for your body.
That's so hard to do, man.
wiz khalifa
They're dying.
joe rogan
Dying.
That's so hard to do.
And I wonder if they're running with just socks on.
It looks like they are.
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
That's amazing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's difficult.
unidentified
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
Because that makes your feet strong.
Because you're using every muscle in your toes to push through that sand.
wiz khalifa
That's difficult.
joe rogan
Fuck!
There's levels to this life.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
That's literally...
Who's going to go to the top or who's going to stop in the middle?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Fuck.
joe rogan
Those little decisions you make every day.
wiz khalifa
I've just seen my whole life just running up some dudes just there.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it was cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yep.
wiz khalifa
That's awesome.
joe rogan
It's like a mental martial art, too.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
wiz khalifa
Wow.
joe rogan
You're testing the mind.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
And, like, getting stronger at the same time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
That's the cold part.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
So it's like you could be up here the whole time and you're building all of this and becoming more explosive and more dangerous and lighter on your feet.
joe rogan
When you started training and seeing these awesome benefits, were you like, God damn it, why wasn't I doing this all the time?
wiz khalifa
I'm actually happy that I waited for a little bit because I enjoy it.
It's not old to me.
It's not something that I'm tired of.
That's a chore.
I'm still figuring out new shit all the time and getting better.
For me, I feel like the physical was probably the first thing.
To come to me as a reward, as a benefit, I see the physical shit.
But now it's like the feeling that I get, you know what I mean?
Or like we said, posture and balance and technique improving and shit like that.
So it's like...
Learning that and feeling that and having that being a part of the process, I'm happy that now it's happening as opposed to it being old and played out to me.
joe rogan
Right.
That's interesting.
I think you'd love it either way.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
I still love it.
I still love training.
I've been doing it forever.
wiz khalifa
Forever?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm 51. I started training really seriously when I was 15. Oh, shit.
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Damn, so what the fuck was I doing?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's how I was feeling.
wiz khalifa
I was rapping.
joe rogan
Were you rapping when you were 15?
Wow.
When did you first get in the studio?
That's one thing I really admire about a lot of rappers.
You guys are always working.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rappers are always in the studio.
wiz khalifa
Hopefully.
joe rogan
That's like a big thing, though.
It's like...
There's a discipline aspect to it that I don't think gets appreciated.
You're always in the lab.
You're always working.
wiz khalifa
Constantly.
It's like training.
You gotta work at it.
joe rogan
It's competitive.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it's competitive.
You gotta be in the studio.
You gotta work with producers.
You gotta be fucking knowing who's next and who's...
You know what I'm saying?
Working with them and shit like that.
So at the end of the day, yeah, it's a crap out of shit.
I've been in the studio since I was 14, 15, and there was times when my dad used to have to tell me, like, yo, get out of the studio.
Go play with your friends.
Be a kid.
Be normal.
You know what I'm saying?
There was times that shit happened.
And even now, I don't really do normal shit.
You know what I mean?
I might go to the movies or go to Dave& Buster's or something like that.
But I don't do shit.
I just go to the studio.
I'd much rather just create.
joe rogan
Well, that's amazing that you figured it out so young.
How old were you when you knew you wanted to be a rapper?
wiz khalifa
I think I was in third grade.
It's real shit.
I think I was in third grade.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
wiz khalifa
I wanted to be a Ninja Turtle and I wanted to be a rapper.
And I think a rapper was a little bit more realistic.
I'm working on being a Ninja Turtle now.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
wiz khalifa
Third grade.
Yeah, third grade.
joe rogan
How old are you in third grade again?
You're nine?
wiz khalifa
You're nine?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that's when I started writing my first raps and shit.
joe rogan
Dude, that is hilarious.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I was watching music videos, and I remember seeing Puffy and Biggie and Bone Thugs and Harmony is one of my favorite groups.
joe rogan
Wow.
wiz khalifa
So I was like, yo, if I could do that, I'd be all right.
And then by the time I was like 13...
That's when the internet was really popular.
So you could download like instrumentals and shit like that.
So you didn't have to like have beats or anything.
Then they started introducing, you know, at home equipment.
They had like little Tascam stuff.
Four track little bullshit thing that you could, you know what I mean?
So I started fucking around on that, like doing my own little home studio.
Then Fruity Loops came out, started making beats.
Cool Edit Pro was like the program back then before Pro Tools.
And yeah, that's how I got my start.
Like just in the fucking, in the crib, just putting it together.
Then I turned like, then by the time I was like 16, I got like an internship at a studio in Pittsburgh.
Where I was literally answering the phones and running errands and going to pick up office supplies and shit like that.
And in return, they would pay me with studio time.
So I would just record off the clock.
I had four or five songs and that turned into a record deal.
Got my first deal at 16. That's an amazing story.
It's wild.
joe rogan
That's a movie story.
That's crazy that you always knew.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
It was something that I worked at for sure.
Because it was like being in Pittsburgh.
You ever been to Pittsburgh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
You know it's pretty crazy out there, right?
joe rogan
Crazy how?
wiz khalifa
Like, it's just a really wild city.
Like, the Midwest.
So it's like...
There's either a couple things you can do, and there's not a lot.
And working a job is, like, the last thing that anybody wants to do in Pittsburgh.
So all my cousins and everybody that I know do different shit than what I was willing to do.
I was like, yo, I'm not trying to be that guy, like that.
So I was like, how am I going to make a way for myself?
You know what I mean?
How the fuck am I going to get...
Still be fresh.
You know what I mean?
Enjoy myself.
Have a good time, but be safe and have fun.
It was music.
joe rogan
It's amazing that you nailed it.
And nailed it young.
That's a beautiful thing to know what you want to do.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
And just be working towards it.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
For many people that's the real problem.
The real problem is like finding a thing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Finding a thing they really love so much they can put all their energy into.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
I mean I'm blessed to grow up in a time too where technology was like taking over and shit.
And I think like...
If you're my age and you, like, make music or got a camera or, you know what I mean?
Anything around that, you good.
And now I think it's like if you have anything to do with weed, like, you know what I'm saying?
If you know how to grow it, if you could sell it, if you could brand it, if you could come up with light technology or whatever it is, like, that's going to be the future for this generation.
It's like pot.
joe rogan
There's going to be a lot of that for sure.
It's going to open up to everybody.
I think once they realize how much money there really is in pot and how safe it is in comparison to liquor and all these other established things that we've all...
No one has a problem with alcohol companies.
Nobody has a problem with them.
wiz khalifa
Nobody has a problem with you drinking at 12 in the fucking afternoon.
I get on planes all the time.
People will be like, yo, let me get a little...
It's like, people getting fucked up, yo.
joe rogan
On a plane.
It's totally fine.
We just have to shift attitudes.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
People just have the wrong attitude about it.
They think it's something negative.
It's something that could be negative to some people.
But that's like everything else.
That's like food, sex, gambling, everything.
wiz khalifa
Shopping.
Thank you.
joe rogan
Everything.
Yeah, shopping for sure.
People go crazy.
People lose their mind shopping.
They can't buy enough things.
wiz khalifa
They're buying crazy shit.
Just cause.
joe rogan
Just cause.
Yeah, that's as much of an addiction as anything.
But pot can definitely, for some people, derail them.
I don't think it's for everybody.
unidentified
Nah.
wiz khalifa
It's a medicine, so you gotta have the right dosage.
joe rogan
That's a good way of looking at it.
I think some people react to it weird, too.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
I mean, certain people's experiences aren't everybody else's experiences.
So it's like, if you got fucked up on weed, that's you.
So it's like, don't put that off on everybody else.
And I think, like...
Like, anything, it takes time to, you know what I mean?
Like, I can't take Percocet because it's like, that shit will fuck me up because I don't do painkillers.
But I think over a certain amount of time, if I had an injury, my body would start to react differently to a certain amount of Percocet.
But, like, off rip, it's going to fuck me up.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to throw up.
I'm going to do all types of shit.
But, you know, after a while, you know what I mean?
There's people who just pop that shit...
And just walk around normally.
That's the same way with me smoking a joint.
There's some people who can hit this and be in that corner for the rest of the day.
Me, I'm going to go do everything that I have to do.
So it's a medicine.
It's a dosage.
And you have to train your body for it.
joe rogan
I think that's true, but I also think some people might not react to it correctly in terms of, like, biologically.
wiz khalifa
Yeah?
joe rogan
I think they might have an allergy.
Like, it might be, like, broccoli or something.
There's people out there that are allergic to weird shit.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
There's some people I think that just...
wiz khalifa
I've heard of that.
joe rogan
That experience is just not good for them.
wiz khalifa
They're, like, they're allergic to it.
I mean, you know...
joe rogan
I'm just guessing.
I don't know.
wiz khalifa
It makes sense, though, doesn't it?
I think it's opinion, like, if you believe it or not.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you want to believe that...
I feel like you're entitled to believe that.
And if you don't want to believe that, then it's like, okay, cool.
You're that guy too.
I don't know either.
joe rogan
I agree with what you said.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I don't know either, bro.
Because it's like, I'm on the fence because it's like, you know, on one hand, people, I mean, I don't know.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Whatever.
It's medicine.
joe rogan
It's fucking medicine.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I like it.
And there's a lot of people that like it.
It's not what everybody thinks it is.
People have this wrong idea of it.
One of the things I found out real early on is how many jujitsu guys smoke weed and do jujitsu.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, you've seen the High Rollers thing?
joe rogan
Yeah.
High Rollers has these awesome events where they smoke weed and then they fight in a jujitsu match.
wiz khalifa
My partners are a big part of that.
Lonnie and Breeze.
And they're the ones who actually got me, like, kind of, you know, into fitness.
So, to see them, like...
And I'm the one who got him in the weed.
So, it's like...
To see it, like, cross over.
I never...
Would have known, like, you know what I'm saying?
How many jujitsu dudes, like, smoke weed and, like, are about it, like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're about that shit.
It helps your jujitsu.
It really does.
In some weird way.
wiz khalifa
It helps, like, slow it down for you, right?
joe rogan
I don't even know if it's slow it down.
It's like it tunes out the rest of the world.
wiz khalifa
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
It's like you become freer.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's very weird.
wiz khalifa
Like, more creative?
joe rogan
There's...
It's definitely...
It's better for rolling than it is for drilling.
unidentified
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Because, like, when someone's trying to teach you something, sometimes your brain's just not...
wiz khalifa
Because you didn't, right?
joe rogan
You're just high.
Your brain's not taking it in.
But if you were sparring, it would be good.
wiz khalifa
Got you.
joe rogan
You flow better.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
I haven't done jiu-jitsu yet.
I'm going to get there.
Eventually.
joe rogan
You would love it.
You got long limbs, man.
You'd be perfect for choking people.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
Arm bars, triangles and shit.
wiz khalifa
I'm going to get there.
joe rogan
You could do it.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
You totally built for it.
wiz khalifa
I feel like I'm going to just fuck with stand-up for a couple years and then just gradually do other things.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
I'll just probably do jujitsu for like four or five years.
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
You should.
wiz khalifa
Just learn some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll be great for you, man.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Like I said, you're built for it.
unidentified
I'm all about it.
joe rogan
The perfect frame for fighters is long.
It seems to be long.
As long as you're strong, it's like the John Jones frame.
That's the perfect frame.
wiz khalifa
Right, right.
joe rogan
It's...
You can't get close enough to him.
He can hit you when he wants to.
And then when he grabs ahold of you, he's strong enough and he's better at wrestling.
He's going to throw you around.
That's the perfect combination is long and strong.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
Perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Sweet.
joe rogan
Dudes like Seraphion, they buck that trend.
They're just tanks.
It seems to me like just mechanically, the best frame is the long frame.
So you have the best frame for fighting.
wiz khalifa
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
wiz khalifa
Thank you.
I'm in there.
joe rogan
It doesn't guarantee success, but it's a fucking awesome bass.
wiz khalifa
There we go.
I'm working with something.
joe rogan
Short dudes like me can't put big guys in triangles.
I don't have enough leg room.
There's not enough...
Like mechanically.
wiz khalifa
I'm sure you could figure it out.
joe rogan
Not really.
You just gotta give up on that one.
But long guys can get triangles from all kinds of places.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
You'd love it.
It's a thinking man's game too.
It's like you're playing a game.
The thing that I like about it too is that you can go full blast.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
Whereas if you're sparring, you don't really want to go full blast.
You hurt each other.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You want to be...
Tempered, measured, and just kind of touch each other.
But when you do sparring and jujitsu, because you're not striking each other, you're just wrestling and grappling, you can go full blast.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
wiz khalifa
I'm with it, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
I'm super with it.
Like, the little bit that I've done, I was like, alright, cool, I can see.
Like, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
I'm down.
joe rogan
Definitely.
wiz khalifa
Gotta go there.
joe rogan
I just love the fact that you're interested in doing different things.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, for sure.
I'm a learner.
joe rogan
Do you read books?
Do you watch documentaries?
wiz khalifa
I watch documentaries.
I have read some books that I gravitate towards.
joe rogan
What kind of documentaries do you gravitate towards?
wiz khalifa
Like music.
Really?
Always about music.
Yeah.
Let me see what else.
Yeah, it's always about music, like musicians.
joe rogan
Did you see Searching for Sugar Man?
wiz khalifa
What was that one?
joe rogan
That was about this dude who was a guy who was making music.
I want to say it was in the 70s.
And he had like a little bit of buzz on his album.
And then it died off for him.
And he went back to work as a construction worker.
But his music became insanely huge in South Africa.
He was a superstar.
And there was all these legends about him.
That he was dead...
Just crazy stories about who he was.
Meanwhile, this guy was working as a construction worker.
So in South Africa, he's a fucking mega superstar, like sells out arenas.
And, spoiler alert, it's a great documentary, you should see it, but he eventually goes to South Africa and does this concert there.
You'll cry.
wiz khalifa
You'll cry.
joe rogan
You're like, oh my god, can you imagine this guy was working as a laborer?
And the whole time, he was a superstar and he didn't even know it.
And then the people see him, they're singing along to his music.
I mean, the guy's blown away.
wiz khalifa
I would love that.
joe rogan
It's a crazy documentary.
wiz khalifa
I gotta check that out.
joe rogan
It's insane to watch.
Like, how could this be true?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
Damn.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
wiz khalifa
I kind of feel like I heard the name, but I never, I never, never, no, I never seen that.
Yeah, I gotta check that out, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, it made me cry.
wiz khalifa
I gotta check that out.
joe rogan
At the end of it, you'd be like, wow.
unidentified
Wow!
wiz khalifa
Oh, hell yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine this guy's experience.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
It's almost like being released from jail or something.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, exactly.
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah, it's incredible.
wiz khalifa
Holy fuck.
Yeah, I'm gonna check that out.
joe rogan
And seeing how comfortable he gets on stage, too.
wiz khalifa
Wow.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
wiz khalifa
Damn!
joe rogan
Yeah.
His music is good, too, man.
Very, very interesting.
wiz khalifa
Is he still alive?
joe rogan
I believe he is alive.
wiz khalifa
That's fire.
joe rogan
He's alive, right?
jamie vernon
I think so, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
So he's able to see the proceeds from his movie and his movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
But someone said, I think he gave away all his money.
wiz khalifa
Really?
joe rogan
I read something, but that might be more of those rumors and legends about the guy.
wiz khalifa
Oh, legend.
Another myth.
Damn, Sugarman.
He's attached to so many legends.
joe rogan
Jamie, find out if that dude gave his money away.
Because I felt like I read that.
Come on, bro.
Life to him is so surreal anyway.
wiz khalifa
Truth.
joe rogan
Maybe he felt like he couldn't be a real bonafide artist unless he gave away his money or something crazy like that.
Because the guy was living in this small apartment.
wiz khalifa
That's why I don't want to do ayahuasca or anything like that.
I feel like that's what's going to happen to me.
joe rogan
You want to give away your money?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
Fuck this shit!
I'm like, whoa, no, no, no.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
Yeah, it's too tricky.
You could get so, you know, so charity-driven and just give away everything.
And then you're working for charities.
wiz khalifa
Just walking the earth barefoot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
He's on tour last year, touring theaters all over the country.
wiz khalifa
Good shit, Sugarman!
He's back!
jamie vernon
He's back!
wiz khalifa
He's smacking us!
Okay, I'm watching that documentary for sure.
joe rogan
So there was a fake rumor that he gave away all his money?
jamie vernon
Yeah, Dave Matthews covered one of his songs, and they went on tour, and I'll blow him up.
wiz khalifa
Oh, hell yeah!
joe rogan
Damn!
jamie vernon
He was doing good.
wiz khalifa
So he didn't give away nothing.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
jamie vernon
He might have, but I don't see anything else.
joe rogan
Maybe he got it back.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The documentary's really amazing.
It's one of the best music documentaries I've ever seen.
wiz khalifa
Perfect.
Thank you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a good one.
Tell me a good one.
wiz khalifa
My documentary.
unidentified
Oh!
wiz khalifa
It's called Behind the Cam.
joe rogan
Yeah?
wiz khalifa
It's on Apple Music.
joe rogan
Oh, I'll get it.
unidentified
Hey!
wiz khalifa
I just did that.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
wiz khalifa
Man.
Nah.
I like to watch like...
I watched this Pink Floyd documentary about how they put together their albums, shit like that.
There's another one about background singers who never became super popular, but they're part of...
songs that you hear and that you love and it's just like telling the story like how writers and you know what I mean being in the studio and what it's like to live that life it's really cool because I listen to harmonies a lot I don't know if when you hear music I hear like all the textures of it so it's like I get interested in like what goes on sometimes like in the background and that was a cool story um fucking what was the last one that I actually watched I just watched...
I'm watching this show, actually.
You ever heard Chernobyl?
I've heard.
joe rogan
I heard the show's amazing.
wiz khalifa
That shit's kind of cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard it's great.
wiz khalifa
Man, it's pretty awesome.
But that's not music, though.
joe rogan
What is that on?
Is that Netflix?
It's on HBO. HBO coming back.
Game of Thrones didn't kill him.
wiz khalifa
Chernobyl is it.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That good, huh?
wiz khalifa
That show's lit.
joe rogan
It's all you need.
All you need is a big show.
HBO's back.
Chernobyl.
Is it about the accident?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many episodes is it?
wiz khalifa
I'm not sure.
They're, like, streaming them now, so it's like...
joe rogan
Oh, it streams?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yep.
It's on, like, the fourth or fifth episode, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, all those networks that don't stream everything, like, they must be...
It must suck to have, like, a show that has to be on Thursday night at 8. Losing out.
Just today's so weird.
People want to watch things whenever they want to, like, right now.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, for sure.
jamie vernon
It's a five-part miniseries.
The last episode is coming up this weekend.
wiz khalifa
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
So there you go.
joe rogan
Do you think the movie theaters will always be here?
wiz khalifa
I think eventually they're going to be gone.
What do you think?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I like that they're real.
You know, that there's a place you go.
jamie vernon
They've already kind of came and gone twice.
If you look around old Hollywood, there's old theaters that aren't theaters anymore, but there's new theaters that have taken over them.
But those buildings are still there for whatever reason.
They're still using them.
joe rogan
Well, people still like going to the movies.
It's a night out thing.
wiz khalifa
I just feel like it costs so much to keep screens and actually put movies in there and then you got the popcorn.
joe rogan
But it's one of the few things that we do with strangers is be a part of an audience.
It's the few things we randomly do with giant groups of strangers.
wiz khalifa
I feel like technology is removing that because people don't like that.
joe rogan
I think people are uncomfortable with it because most of the time we spend on devices.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Communicating through devices.
wiz khalifa
And especially with, like, virtual reality becoming more popular.
You know, like, people love access, so it's like...
If you're making them feel like they're there, why would you want a random dude walking across your lap when you can just be in the movie?
I feel like they would just spend that money on keeping you at home where you want to be.
This is just my opinion.
I don't know.
joe rogan
No, I think you're right.
And I agree with you 100%.
But I also think as a community of human beings, it's nice to have things that we all do together.
It fosters like a kind of getting along better and friendship with people that you don't know.
I think that's what's good about sports.
wiz khalifa
I like concerts because of that.
joe rogan
Concerts, yeah.
When you grow with a whole group of people, you go to see something, it's nice.
You're connected to those people.
It feels good.
wiz khalifa
Baseball games.
I've had fun at games and not gave a fuck about what was going on, but it's the community that was going on for sure, 100%.
joe rogan
That's what I mean.
Everybody's kind of drinking, having fun.
That is an important part of cities and of communities.
That's one thing that I think that a movie theater does provide.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I mean, for sure, for sure.
joe rogan
Concert, for sure.
wiz khalifa
And I'm not even mad that people don't really go to the movies like that now, because it's like, when you actually do want to go, you can go.
And it's not full, and it's not, you know what I mean?
Like, it'll be people there, but it's not overwhelming to the point where you have, like...
It fucks up your movie experience.
So it's doable.
It's enjoyable.
joe rogan
It's handleable.
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
It's cool.
It's fun.
I like where the movie is at right now.
joe rogan
I am worried that people are eventually going to all be living in some sort of a VR world.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I mean...
I feel like it's designed to move that way.
You know what I'm saying?
You give people something and they're going to use it.
joe rogan
And they're going to get better.
They're going to make a new one.
A new one's going to have extra features.
wiz khalifa
So it's like, alright, I get it.
Fuck.
joe rogan
Have you fucked with any of that VR stuff?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, VR is awesome.
joe rogan
Do you ever do that?
There's a thing outside of Disneyland where there's a VR game that you go through.
You go through this little...
They have a giant room, right?
And the room's set up for the...
What was it called?
The Void?
Is that what it's called?
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Holy shit.
joe rogan
The Void VR. And there's a Star Wars one, and there's a Wreck-It Ralph one.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
And they're hilarious.
I mean, you're walking around.
You feel heat from fire.
You pick up a plastic gun.
You're shooting at stormtroopers.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
wiz khalifa
Shit's crazy.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
And while you're doing it, you're like, this is just step one.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
joe rogan
This is going to be insane in 20 years.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, they're just giving us pieces.
Bits and pieces.
They already have more.
joe rogan
You think that?
wiz khalifa
Oh, for sure.
unidentified
Really?
wiz khalifa
100%.
joe rogan
I don't think that.
wiz khalifa
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why not?
Because I think that what they're showing you right now is state-of-the-art.
They're selling it.
It's the best, and it's in competition.
It's getting better and better all the time.
wiz khalifa
That's a good way to look at it, because they put it at my farm.
joe rogan
No worries, man.
I just think these people are very competitive.
The money is in getting the best shit out the quickest.
And they're all competing with each other.
wiz khalifa
So they're putting out the bootleg version and letting somebody smarter test it, work it, and make the better version, and then they'll come back and do that later.
joe rogan
Well, that definitely happens, too.
I mean, that's what China does better than anybody.
They take some shit and just redo it.
wiz khalifa
I'd be feeling like...
This is just my hate theory.
VR, right?
It might be so fucking dangerous that they don't know how it'll...
joe rogan
How to let it out.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like, they give us little bits and pieces of it to let us...
You know, they spoon-feed it to us so they don't kill us.
And the world just go crazy.
And it's like, you know what I mean?
Because they probably tested it on somebody and they died.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, they was like, oh shit, we went too far.
It's like, hold on, let's pull it back a little bit and just give them this.
Like you said, give them this version of it.
You know what I mean?
But I feel like there's more.
joe rogan
Well, I think when you really don't know what the fuck is going on, that's with military stuff.
I think military stuff like weapons and, you know, spaceships and aircrafts that they're developing, we don't know what the fuck they're doing.
They're doing some shit that we have no idea.
But I think with things like consumer electronics, like technology, I think what you see is what you get.
I think this is as good as they can do anything.
They're working on the newest, best shit.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
And that's coming around.
They're always constantly in development.
They're all competing against each other.
There's no way they would hold anything back.
wiz khalifa
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think so.
wiz khalifa
Damn!
I feel like there's a phone that charges in two seconds.
joe rogan
No way, you have it out.
wiz khalifa
If you're in a war and your cellular device goes down, it's like you can't plug it in and charge it.
It has to happen quick, right?
So they have that, in my opinion.
They just don't give it to us.
joe rogan
But all that stuff, I can see your argument because you're in a war, they might have better batteries that the military develops or some new kind of battery.
That's possible.
But there's so much money in batteries.
If they had a better way of doing it, if Samsung came out with a phone that charged 100% in 30 seconds, And Apple would have to figure out how to compete with that.
They would have that out.
They wouldn't hold on to that.
No one would hold on to that because that would just dominate the market.
wiz khalifa
It's too powerful, right?
joe rogan
It would dominate the market.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it's too powerful.
joe rogan
But that happens.
That's what always happens.
That's how Blockbuster's out of business.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
wiz khalifa
Right, right, right, right.
joe rogan
That's why there's no more Tower Records.
wiz khalifa
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
All that shit happened in our lifetime.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, for sure.
Like 100%.
Music isn't even physical.
unidentified
Right.
wiz khalifa
And I make music and it's not real.
joe rogan
Right, it's a sound.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it's a sound.
unidentified
And...
wiz khalifa
Fuck.
You know?
I don't know.
joe rogan
That is a crazy way to look at music.
What is this?
The R17 Pro, which is the company's latest, is the fastest charging smartphone in the world.
It advertises that 35 minutes is all it takes to entirely fill up a dead battery.
jamie vernon
That was seven months ago, so...
joe rogan
So it's probably faster now.
jamie vernon
They got something like that, for sure.
joe rogan
35 minutes.
What do you think they can do for a full battery?
jamie vernon
I would say that...
There's probably a hundred cell phones out there that can charge in five minutes.
There's not a million because they can't source that much.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, charge more than this can?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I would say there's a military phone that they might have a hundred of them passed around the military, but it's not mass produced.
joe rogan
And it can charge up in five minutes?
jamie vernon
Sure.
unidentified
Really?
jamie vernon
For sure.
If this can do 35 minutes...
joe rogan
You two should go.
jamie vernon
Seven times faster.
unidentified
It's easy.
joe rogan
You guys are all conspiratorial on electronics.
unidentified
That's not that big.
wiz khalifa
No, it's just...
Yeah, I mean, to me, that's normal.
unidentified
That's a big leap.
wiz khalifa
To me, that shit is normal.
This is energy that we're talking about, right?
joe rogan
Right, right.
wiz khalifa
Bro, like, cars still move off of gas.
That shit is like the Stone Age, bro.
Like, shit's going electric.
You know what I'm saying?
Like...
That's on some spaceship shit.
So they, I mean, like, at the end of the day, like, they have this shit.
They just can't give it to you because they're killing people testing it.
It's like food, you know what I mean?
Like, they have to approve this shit before it comes out.
But they have a car that goes, it just crashed into the wall, you know what I mean?
And somebody died and they're like, whoa, we can't put this on the streets yet.
It's like, all of that shit, energy, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you think they have a car that's so fast they can't put it on the street?
wiz khalifa
I just feel like transportation in general.
You know what I mean?
Communication, transportation, technology, the way we hear music, the way that we view things and shit like that.
Our whole experience, technology, whatever the fucking word is.
We're being spoonfed.
FaceTime!
You know what I'm saying?
It was like you used to have to have the service to FaceTime.
Now everybody can FaceTime.
You know what I mean?
It's like people don't even call each other no more.
They just FaceTime.
So we feel like, oh man, we came up.
This was blah, blah, blah.
We feel good about that.
We feel excellent about it.
But...
There's more, I feel like.
That's just me.
I just feel like they're just sitting on it.
You know what I mean?
They're waiting to give it to us.
joe rogan
I don't think companies have any reason to do that.
The only reason to do that would be to get rid of the stock of the stuff that they're already selling.
That'd be the only reason.
Because sometimes when companies announce a new product's coming, people stop buying the old product.
Like Corvette is having a problem with that right now.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
Because the Corvette, excuse me, they got this car, the ZR1. You seen that thing?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
It's a demon.
It's ridiculous that you could go to a store and buy a car that has that much horsepower.
But a lot of people don't want to buy them because then there's a new Corvette coming out in like a year.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
That's a mid-engine, total renewed design.
They don't want to be stuck with the old one.
wiz khalifa
Gotcha.
joe rogan
People get weird.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
So in that sense, they might be holding out on what they're about to be able to do.
But like we saw with that foldable phone that Samsung tried to come out with, and then they had to take it back because it was so defective.
So many of them were breaking.
It was a giant embarrassment, and they pulled the whole thing.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
And now they're trying to rework it and figure out what to do with it.
That's like, if a company has something like that happen, and that's the number two smartphone company in the world.
Oh, they're number one, right?
Samsung's number one.
Huawei's number two.
Apple's number three.
wiz khalifa
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
That's the number one cell phone manufacturer in the world, and they got that kind of a fuck-up?
They're not holding back anything.
I don't think so.
I think they're trying to sell the best shit they have right now, and then they're in development with the next level shit right now.
But as far as what they can bring to market, what they have is what they bring to market.
I think those on-screen fingerprint sensors, they didn't used to be able to do that, and now they can.
You just touch the glass and it reads it.
All that shit is like, they're just trying to get it dialed in to the point where they can sell it to enough people and it doesn't break.
Like that stupid folding...
Did you see that folding screen?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it's like a fucking...
It was a regular phone, but it folded, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then it would fold up into an iPad.
wiz khalifa
To an iPad, yeah.
Yeah, that shit's stupid.
joe rogan
But that thing kept breaking.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
And, you know, when it came out, everybody was like, holy shit, this is the future.
The glass bends.
wiz khalifa
I think there's like, like you said, there's like the people who just freak out about whatever's new, right?
joe rogan
Right.
wiz khalifa
And then there's like shit that really moves the, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like really changes shit, you know what I mean?
For sure.
There's a huge difference between those.
Like, you've got the people who just want the new shit, and then you've got motherfuckers who's actually, like, doing shit that changes things forever.
Like, streaming changed music forever.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, mini-discs and all of that other stupid shit that people were trying to do to change music, it didn't work, you know what I mean?
And it didn't exist.
So it's like the one thing that stands out and changes things forever, that's what motherfuckers remember.
I don't know if they're holding it or not.
It is what it is, but like, there's some smart motherfuckers who designed this shit for us, you know what I'm saying?
And at the end of the day, like...
You got people who just consume it and they're just like, oh man, I'm here for whatever, whatever.
You know what I mean?
And then I feel like there's a lot of people who understand it and know how to play off of those people's emotions.
And that's where you get what we have now.
And me personally...
I love everything.
I'm not a person who is stuck with the old shit or has to have all of the new shit either.
I'm just obsessed with life in general.
All of this shit fucks me up, but it's crazy.
It's insane.
joe rogan
We live in insane times.
wiz khalifa
We live in insane times.
joe rogan
What's cool about today, too, is that we can go and still appreciate and use some of the shit from the past like a record player.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Use a record, listen to some old records.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
And realize, wow, this is how people used to get their music.
They used to sit in front of the record player with headphones on.
I remember being a kid doing that.
wiz khalifa
Right, right.
joe rogan
People would listen to albums.
They opened up the album looking at the art.
wiz khalifa
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
That was a big part of an album.
What was the photo layout?
What was the pictures?
wiz khalifa
It's crazy how everybody thinks the new shit ruins the older shit, too.
It's like people still enjoy everything, man.
It's just stages of it.
joe rogan
I love that that old shit exists.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, hell yeah.
joe rogan
Go back and listen to some of that old stuff.
wiz khalifa
People don't watch tapes anymore, though.
You can't get a VHS. That's not the move.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think those are dead and gone.
wiz khalifa
VHS tapes.
joe rogan
Remember when someone would give you a copy of a copy, and every now and then it had little lines through it and shit?
You get second, third generation copies from friends.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, VHSs are done, bro.
joe rogan
I don't know if you remember this, but you used to be able to buy movies right after they came out, especially in New York, because dudes would sit in the back of the movie theater.
wiz khalifa
Oh, like the little bootleg joints.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You could watch the movie from like...
wiz khalifa
Like a video camera.
It'd be like in their video in the movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that was crazy.
That was a crazy time.
Yeah, they weren't hiding shit back then.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
They were using all of their technology.
joe rogan
That's everything they had.
wiz khalifa
That was everything they fucking had.
joe rogan
The crazy thing is that's not that long ago.
In terms of the human race, that's not that long ago.
wiz khalifa
That's the 90s.
joe rogan
That's so recent.
wiz khalifa
So this is what?
2019, so that's 20 years.
So you can go back 23, 24 years maybe.
joe rogan
Imagine if you could see what the fuck 24 years from now is.
wiz khalifa
It's crazy.
I've related to like when I was younger in the 90s because I was like a baby in the 90s.
I wasn't even a teenager.
So 20 years from then was the 70s.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
And shit was totally, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like now, from 20 years, for that to be the same time frame, that shit is crazy to me.
joe rogan
You really want to know how crazy it is, man?
Get yourself into a 1970 Plymouth and drive that thing.
And realize that in 1970, that's how people drove.
They drive this thing that barely knows where you're driving.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, hell yeah.
joe rogan
You could do this with the steering wheel as you're driving on the street.
wiz khalifa
They didn't even have power steering in the 60s and shit, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
wiz khalifa
You had to turn that thing like this.
joe rogan
A lot of them didn't.
Yeah, a lot of them didn't.
But those cars were terrible.
And that was just a few years ago.
I mean, in terms of human history.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
If you looked at a block of time in history, like if you looked at the difference between 1820 and 1840, in our head, it's like, that's the same shit.
1820, 1840, what the fuck was different?
There was nothing different.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
But if you look at our generation, 40 years ago to now, it's insane.
wiz khalifa
It's true.
joe rogan
It doesn't even make sense.
It's nuts.
We're barely the same thing.
wiz khalifa
Bruh.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Have you driven a Tesla?
wiz khalifa
No, I haven't.
Pretty good?
joe rogan
The preposterous.
It's a preposterous car.
wiz khalifa
What's the deal with them?
joe rogan
It's so fast, it doesn't make sense.
wiz khalifa
Really?
joe rogan
Every other car you drive afterwards will feel stupid.
You could drive mine.
wiz khalifa
You got a Tesla?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you could drive it.
wiz khalifa
They're that legit?
joe rogan
It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever driven in my life.
wiz khalifa
Fuck!
joe rogan
It doesn't make any noise.
wiz khalifa
It doesn't make...
It makes zero noise.
This makes noise.
unidentified
Stop!
wiz khalifa
Stop turning my doorbell.
joe rogan
Who the fuck is that?
It's a fucking rap music video, entourage style.
Girls in their underwear.
Dancing.
Bottle of champagne.
wiz khalifa
The girl in my house.
joe rogan
Someone should just follow you through the camera just to see who rings your doorbell.
wiz khalifa
I do not know who that girl was.
joe rogan
Welcome to the party.
What were we just talking about?
wiz khalifa
Teslas!
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's a spaceship.
It's next level.
If you think that they're holding back anything in the automotive world, drive that thing.
wiz khalifa
See, nah, that's the thing.
I feel like all cars are gonna look alike, and they're gonna look like Teslas.
So they're gonna have the super fast one for the elite motherfuckers, but then they're gonna have regular ones, and then we're all gonna have the same car.
We're all gonna have the same phone.
We're all gonna have the same watch.
Because it controls everything.
They control your house, so everything is integrated.
The TV, the Xbox, you all want it in one.
So the only way to do that is for everything to be the same.
So if the Tesla is that ill, I never driven one, but if it's that ill, I don't see why people wouldn't be into it.
joe rogan
Just the pain in the asses, it takes a long time to charge.
Okay.
Even if you have a Tesla supercharger thing, like I have a wall-mounted charger that's more amperage.
unidentified
That's tight.
joe rogan
It's nice.
But it still takes a few hours to charge if it's almost dead.
wiz khalifa
Okay.
joe rogan
Whereas you can get gas in like five minutes.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
Don't they have portable chargers?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
wiz khalifa
They ain't do that yet?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
You need an insane amount of power to power that thing.
wiz khalifa
But how long?
joe rogan
It's got giant batteries in it.
It just takes hours and hours to fill up.
wiz khalifa
That doesn't sound like fun.
joe rogan
Well, because it goes 317 miles.
jamie vernon
Did you see this race they did with the tunnel?
unidentified
What is it?
jamie vernon
It's two Teslas at the same spot.
I guess it's in Hawthorne where they have it.
The one on the right is using the tunnel that they haven't completed, and the one on the left is going above ground.
joe rogan
Now, is this tunnel like auto drive?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck that.
jamie vernon
I think it's got those tracks on the side so that it can stay in place.
joe rogan
Bro, look how fast that's going.
jamie vernon
Goes up to 127 miles an hour.
joe rogan
I know.
I'm so not comfortable with that.
jamie vernon
And then it slows right down.
unidentified
The way that it moves is That's how robots are going to kill us.
wiz khalifa
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's so fast.
You can't believe how fast it is.
wiz khalifa
That's insane.
joe rogan
That guy's not moving at the top, and the guy's moving very fast.
jamie vernon
It takes him four and a half minutes to go the same time.
It takes this guy a minute and a half to go.
joe rogan
But that guy's battery's dead as fuck on the right, I'll tell you that.
If you stomp on that thing for that long, you better be prepared for that shit to drain quick, especially when it's in ludicrous mode.
wiz khalifa
That's what they call it?
joe rogan
Ludicrous mode.
Yeah, and now they have Ludicrous Plus.
I don't even want to turn that shit on.
I don't need that.
What kind of asshole is unhappy with Ludicrous mode?
jamie vernon
I was going to ask before, don't you think there's some car company trying to beat them?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Tesla has a Roadster.
Have you seen the Tesla Roadster?
Oh my god, Jamie, pull that up.
It's a spaceship.
It's this little sports car-looking spaceship that goes 0-60 in 1.9 seconds.
wiz khalifa
It's a spaceship.
joe rogan
It's a spaceship.
That's the Tesla Roadster.
wiz khalifa
I like that.
joe rogan
It's a dope looking little car.
The roof comes off too.
wiz khalifa
That's real, huh?
joe rogan
Oh my god, that thing's a demon.
wiz khalifa
What?
joe rogan
That thing is a demon.
wiz khalifa
How much does that cost?
joe rogan
I think it's $200,000.
wiz khalifa
It's real?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not out yet.
They're working on it.
wiz khalifa
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
They're working on releasing it soon.
Yeah, $200,000.
Look at that, 1.9 seconds, zero to 60. Yeah, I don't need that.
They just seem, electric cars just seem like the future.
But again, that one's going to be interesting because it has 600 miles.
It can go 660 miles, I think, without charging, which is long distance.
Mine's like 317. Okay.
The ones they have now are like 317. That's dope.
wiz khalifa
That's amazing.
joe rogan
It's wild.
wiz khalifa
Like, my mind is literally blown by this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, mine too.
wiz khalifa
Like, for real.
Like, that shit blows my mind.
joe rogan
Imagine if you're one of those people that makes those things.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's your job.
wiz khalifa
I feel like it's like really a process, like scientific, like, you know, because you don't want nobody to hurt themselves.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
So you have to get it just right.
joe rogan
Sure.
wiz khalifa
So it's like, what's the process of that?
Like, what the fuck are they doing with technology and electricity in a car?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And they have all these safety features.
They have auto drive.
wiz khalifa
That's the thing.
It's like, it's going to be so fast, it's got to have hella safety.
Jesus Christ, girl.
I'm just going to let you in.
I can't turn this thing off.
Oh, there it is.
joe rogan
The same girl?
wiz khalifa
I don't know.
joe rogan
She's persistent.
wiz khalifa
I don't know.
joe rogan
She's a go-getter.
wiz khalifa
I don't know.
She can even go get something else.
joe rogan
But yeah, man.
When you drive something like that and you realize, oh, okay, just 30, 40 years ago, cars were these stinky, weird things that barely steered right.
And now you have these things that seem like they're from a futuristic movie.
And you can get them right now.
wiz khalifa
It's crazy, yo.
It's insane.
Because people are like, okay, where are we going to be without transportation?
We got to go somewhere, right?
We got to get there somehow.
joe rogan
What is this, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I was looking up, I thought I saw something today about a Lamborghini electric car, but this fell into this whole of the Terzo millennial, some new, it is an electric car by Lamborghini that self-heals.
It has some sort of carbon fiber technology that allows it to fix itself.
If it cracks while it's dry, I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, perfect.
unidentified
That's insane.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, sweet.
joe rogan
It detects cracks and damages to itself.
wiz khalifa
There we go.
joe rogan
It's a fucking transformer?
wiz khalifa
There we go.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's a transformer.
It's going to heal itself.
jamie vernon
I was hoping you had heard of it.
joe rogan
No.
wiz khalifa
Self-healing.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
wiz khalifa
There we go.
joe rogan
It's going to fix itself.
jamie vernon
Sorry to distract from that, but yeah.
joe rogan
But it's Italian, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen to me.
That's my people.
It ain't going to work.
Those savages.
jamie vernon
It looks insane.
wiz khalifa
They're thinking big.
joe rogan
If you want to go on a long trip in a Lamborghini, you're out of your fucking mind.
That thing will leave you in the middle of the desert.
wiz khalifa
They're thinking big.
unidentified
That's it?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
That is a unbelievably good-looking car.
jamie vernon
Light tires.
joe rogan
Goddamn, that looks like the future.
wiz khalifa
That's fire.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
wiz khalifa
It's a spaceship.
joe rogan
But if you take one of those, you know that it's made by Italians.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
You know it.
This is my thing!
wiz khalifa
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Hey!
wiz khalifa
When you put the accent with the car, it makes sense.
joe rogan
It's so flamboyant.
Look at the wheels on that thing.
What the fuck is with those wheels?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
wiz khalifa
An Italian spaceship.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, cars are getting closer and closer to spaceships.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if people start flying around?
You comfortable with that?
I'm not.
I don't want anybody landing on my house.
wiz khalifa
Landing on the house.
Air accidents.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
wiz khalifa
Those don't seem too good.
joe rogan
No.
wiz khalifa
And the regulation of...
joe rogan
What lane do you stay in?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, because we work so hard to develop these roads.
It's like, where are we going now?
Like, what's going on here?
joe rogan
Can you imagine if we had like a floating bubble highway system, right?
Like there's balloons held on by rope that go all the way to the ground.
And that marks the paths where you're allowed to fly your flying car through.
wiz khalifa
Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
joe rogan
People don't look and they slam at each other.
You're out there in the park with your kids.
wiz khalifa
Regulation would suck on that.
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
How do you stop people from...
It would have to be autonomous.
It would have to be like Tesla Auto Drive.
So it just takes you up and it just brings you around.
It would have to be something like that.
wiz khalifa
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, we couldn't leave it up to people.
Not with flying.
wiz khalifa
Hell no.
There's too many different personalities.
joe rogan
But then there's going to be lazy people that don't charge their fucking flying car.
And then it gets up there and it's like...
unidentified
Like, you didn't charge it?
wiz khalifa
You shouldn't be able to take off if it's not at a certain...
If it's capable of dying...
joe rogan
I agree.
wiz khalifa
Ground it.
joe rogan
Then we're going to need more regulation so we have more government.
wiz khalifa
Air laws.
joe rogan
Right?
We're going to have to.
That's the only way.
We need more government, more regulations, air cops.
wiz khalifa
Oh my gosh, the air police.
Let's not talk about those guys.
joe rogan
Air police.
They'll be even more on edge than the ground police.
wiz khalifa
Than the ground police.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they're in the air.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're probably going to be super paranoid up there.
wiz khalifa
For sure, for sure.
joe rogan
Well, if we ever do eventually get to space travel, if human beings ever do figure out how to like go to other planets and set up a civilization on Mars or something like that, that's probably what the real next level future of humanity is going to be.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
Other than artificial life, if we can really figure out how to set up a base somewhere.
Do you think you would ever go, if there was a base on Mars, and it takes six months to go to Mars?
wiz khalifa
If there was a threat on Earth...
joe rogan
A threat?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it was like, yo, Earth is about to be fucked up.
joe rogan
Like an asteroid?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I would, you know, I would...
If Mars was alright, I would try to go.
I would take my family and go.
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Wow.
wiz khalifa
To save my family.
joe rogan
That makes sense, to save your family.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if...
What if Mars was awesome?
What if they figured it out?
wiz khalifa
If it was awesome?
I'd rather just die on Earth.
I'm cool here.
I'm good.
joe rogan
I just wonder, once they actually do start going from Earth to other planets, how many people are going to be willing to do that?
wiz khalifa
All the rich folks.
joe rogan
You think so?
I think rich folks want to go into orbit.
I don't think they want to go to Mars.
I don't think there's a whole lot.
wiz khalifa
You mean to live there?
joe rogan
Maybe if you can come back.
Let's say we're far in the future.
wiz khalifa
Vacationing.
joe rogan
Yeah, take a little vacation to Mars.
It takes six months to get there.
Everybody, you think?
wiz khalifa
If it takes six months to get there, hold on.
That's another one.
joe rogan
It's a long trip, man.
wiz khalifa
I think a lot of people would do that.
joe rogan
I think a lot of people would do it.
I think you're right.
If they knew they could come back, because then they'd be able to brag about it.
People would love to brag about going to Mars.
jamie vernon
It's like that time travel thing where it takes six Earth months to get there, but for you it's like two weeks?
joe rogan
I don't think it works that way, but yeah.
jamie vernon
I was wondering how does that work?
joe rogan
You have to be at the speed of light for that to happen.
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Now we getting deep.
jamie vernon
It might be interesting.
You might be able to go save some time if you go do that.
wiz khalifa
Earth months.
joe rogan
You could lose some time, though.
I know that's a fact.
Like, if you go into space at a particularly high rate of speed, and then you figured out how to come back, like, your brother, your twin brother would be way older than you.
wiz khalifa
Mm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
That makes sense.
joe rogan
I went to see this Brian Cox show.
Do you know who Brian Cox is?
The astrophysicist?
He had a show he did in LA and in the back they have this gigantic screen and it's this real high resolution screen and it showed all of the galaxies in the universe.
It showed all of them, you know, just all jammed in together with like appropriate space in between them.
And you look at it and you just go, what the fuck is that?
We're in that thing?
We're one dot in just trillions of dots of all these other galaxies through the known universe.
I've never seen anybody show it that way.
And one of the things he talked about was that the rate of time is not the same for each person, even on Earth.
Depending on where you go and what you do and what speed you travel at, if you and I were born on the exact same day and we both got a watch and that watch was perfectly calibrated and you put your watch on and I put my watch on and we met when we were 80, if our watches were still working, the time would be different.
Because we've lived through different time.
And it might be only like a tiny increment, like a second or a couple seconds, but enough so that in the whole unit...
And I was high as fuck.
So while I'm there watching this thing, the whole thing just blew me away.
I was like, this is a crazy way to look at the universe.
This is it right here.
Yeah, if anybody gets a chance, that's just one galaxy that they're showing.
That's one galaxy colliding with another galaxy.
It's fucking spectacular.
wiz khalifa
Whoa!
joe rogan
Yeah Do you get into space documentaries?
wiz khalifa
I'm about to.
joe rogan
You got to.
wiz khalifa
I just don't believe everything that everybody tells me.
About what?
About shit like that.
So I would have to get it from a reliable source.
You would have to tell me the good space shit.
joe rogan
Any Neil deGrasse Tyson ones.
Lawrence Krauss has got some good stuff.
He's got good audio books too.
That Brian Cox guy is as good as it is.
He's a genius.
He used to be a musician.
He was actually in a pop band.
I think in the 80s.
Was it the 80s?
Yeah.
Like a popular pop band.
And he's a legit astrophysicist.
wiz khalifa
And he just talks about space.
joe rogan
Yeah, he gives these...
It was this guy, Robin Ince, and they have this stage show.
And he comes out and talks about things and explains things.
But he explained that time thing to me, that if we live the same life...
That our watches would be different.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, that's crazy.
I love shit like that.
I'm writing his name down.
joe rogan
Brian Cox, C-O-X, not like the dicks.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
I wouldn't put that name in there.
joe rogan
Of course.
wiz khalifa
That could be a problem.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you get a chance to see that show, man, it's a good thing to see, too, because it's so different than anything else you go to see.
Like, for me, I'm always at comedy clubs.
I'm always, you know, either in the audience or on stage.
So to be there at this place in the audience of this weird kind of like show slash science seminar, it's amazing, man.
wiz khalifa
That shit seems crazy as fuck to learn and laugh.
joe rogan
Yeah, I gotta get you on some science documentaries.
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah!
joe rogan
When you're smoking weed and watching science documentaries.
wiz khalifa
It's gonna help my music.
joe rogan
That's when the real thoughts come out, kids.
Well, you realize there's no getting away.
You know, that paranoid feeling that you get.
Sometimes you get too high.
If you have that paranoid feeling combined with a science documentary on space, then you realize, yeah, we're all very insignificant.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
And you seem extra high because you're high watching space.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
It's like, yo, this dude is stoned.
joe rogan
Have you gotten high your whole life?
wiz khalifa
I started when I was 16. When you were 16?
I started smoking every day.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So right around the time where you were becoming successful as a rapper?
wiz khalifa
Mm-hmm.
It was really like high school because I hated school and I was just so done with it.
And I was selling pot and my mom found out and she was low-key just super cool with it.
It was like, yo, I smoke, you smoke, we smoke.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Wow.
wiz khalifa
It actually helped me get through school to make it tolerable.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Sure.
wiz khalifa
I was able to deal with the shit that I didn't want to deal with.
Because I'm an intelligent kid.
I just really didn't like school.
The school that I went to was good.
I went to a nice school, but I grew up in a time where it was weird.
joe rogan
Well, every school, for every kid, is not what you want to do every day.
It's just not what you want to do every day.
wiz khalifa
And, like, you got teachers who say certain things to you, and it's like, alright, I understand what I'm really here for, you know what I mean?
And I see who I am to you, and you let it be known.
It's kind of hard to, like, take those people serious and want to do the work and all that shit.
joe rogan
Right, want to follow their lead.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, and it's like, for me, that was the bare minimum, was, like, graduate high school.
It's like, I could move on with the rest of my fucking life after that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
We'd help me get through high school.
I don't say that for everybody.
I ain't gonna say that for everybody.
Help me.
joe rogan
I believe you.
It makes sense.
There's a lot of shit that's not that fun, but when you're high, it becomes interesting.
A lot of shit.
That's why air travel...
Air travel is always better when you're high.
wiz khalifa
Way better.
joe rogan
Way better.
wiz khalifa
And you can take THC pills, you can get edibles, you can do whatever you want.
joe rogan
You become like appreciative of the experience.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just be up there flying.
For real.
joe rogan
There's something to me about music, listening to music too in a plane while you're high.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It has an extra impact.
Headphones on and a plane surrounded by all these people.
No one's talking.
Flying through the sky going 500 miles an hour.
30,000 feet above the rocks.
And that music kicks in.
Something about old music too.
For me, lately, I've been getting into a lot of really old rock and roll.
Just imagining what it would be like to...
To be around those people.
See Keith Richards and Mick Jagger in the 70s.
See Little Richard.
To see James Brown live.
To see James Brown perform live.
wiz khalifa
God.
joe rogan
It's hard for us to imagine there was nothing like that before them.
There's levels of impact that those early musicians have that it's hard to really historically put into place because there wasn't anybody like them before that.
No rock and roll stars.
No rap stars.
Think of how recent that is.
wiz khalifa
That's super new.
joe rogan
Stand-up comedy is only about Maybe like 70 years old or some shit like that.
wiz khalifa
Maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe you could say 100 if you want to get crazy.
But rap is like...
wiz khalifa
30?
joe rogan
30 years old.
wiz khalifa
40 maybe?
unidentified
Maybe 40. Yeah.
And it keeps evolving and changing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, like music in general.
My favorite genre is like pop music.
I love anything that could be considered pop because it changes with the times, but you have these megastars, you know what I mean, who just transcend.
They're larger than life, like Michael Jackson, you know what I'm saying?
Sure.
He's bigger than just music, you know what I mean?
And you become a legend as time goes on, but to be a living legend, living in those times and to be around those people and to really hear their music and experience them and shit like that, I feel like that shit is crazy.
And it's a gift for the fans.
It's a gift to be that person.
It's a responsibility as well, but just...
To be the one, like Beyonce.
You know what I mean?
That shit is crazy to me.
joe rogan
To be the one.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Michael Jackson was the one when there was no one before.
There was no real one like him.
I mean, there was Elvis, and that's about it.
There was other ones that were big, that were very popular, very famous.
But Michael Jackson, he transcended so hard, I was listening to WBCN radio in Boston.
It was a rock and roll station.
And they were like, I know this is a rock and roll station, but this song is so fucking good, we're gonna play it anyway.
And they played Michael Jackson.
And we were like, wow.
wiz khalifa
And he had been performing since a kid, so he worked his whole life to get to be, what was he, like 30 or something like that when he was at his peak?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably when he was at his peak.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
joe rogan
There was no road map for him.
wiz khalifa
Nah.
That shit is amazing.
joe rogan
Amazing.
wiz khalifa
And he did, you know, funk music, and he went through disco, and you know what I mean?
It just was like, wow!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, man, and I would have loved to have seen him live before the controversy.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You know, just to just experience him as an artist.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Without having anything attached to it.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
What he did or didn't do, I don't know what he did.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You know, I have no idea.
Right.
Doesn't look good.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But I would have loved to have seen him without the burden of that.
wiz khalifa
Feel me?
joe rogan
It must have been insane.
And only just to see, like, he was like a...
Like we're saying it needs to be a different word for work.
You know, because sometimes it's not work.
It's a passion project.
It's way better than work.
He's a different...
He should have a different word for a star.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
Because he was like a supernova.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was some rare thing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That might happen once every hundred years.
There's legends like Elton John and Rod Stewart.
There's all kinds of legends.
But then there was Michael Jackson.
He was above all of them.
It was a mania.
Kids would dress like him.
Everybody wanted to wear those thriller jackets.
wiz khalifa
There's an art to it.
I feel like every...
The musician has a choice if they want to go there with it.
I feel like the Elton Johns and even Prince and shit like that, they stayed true to exactly who they were.
Not that Michael Jackson didn't stay true to who he was, but...
He put himself out there for the world.
He did everything.
He had cartoons.
He had sneakers.
He did everything.
joe rogan
He bought the Beatles music.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, he bought...
You know what I mean?
Fucking dude owned other people's music.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
But like, yeah.
Hell yeah.
He was doing hella shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just think there was no roadmap for the poor guy.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
When you're living in that...
Fantasy world that nobody else can understand.
wiz khalifa
Right, right.
joe rogan
And there's no one before you and then everywhere you go people are screaming.
Mm-hmm He never had a break.
wiz khalifa
No.
joe rogan
There was no breaks.
He couldn't do anything.
wiz khalifa
No, hell no.
Hell no.
Nothing normal.
joe rogan
Nothing.
wiz khalifa
That's crazy.
That would suck.
joe rogan
I wonder what that would be like if Michael Jackson came around today and he didn't exist before.
He would for sure be a huge star.
But I wonder if it would be as crazy because there's so many more stars now than there were back then.
Because of the internet.
Because there's just more venues and outlets for musicians, for basically everyone, for comedians, for everyone.
There's more outlets.
So because there's more outlets, there's more famous people.
I wonder if he would be as insane.
Because back when he was that famous, there wasn't anyone that was parallel.
Not even close.
Yeah, man.
Do you listen to old stuff?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you listen to?
wiz khalifa
I like...
I do like 90s R&B now, but I like funk music.
I like Bootsy Collins.
All right.
I love Jimi Hendrix.
He's one of my favorites.
I like Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, Freakin' Cool in the Gang, fuckin'...
I listen to everything, bro.
I like a lot of the older soul music, like the Spinners, Patti LaBelle, you know what I'm saying?
But I was raised on everything.
My dad listened to Bob Marley.
He listened to freaking...
Oh, we used to listen to a lot of Sting in The Police.
joe rogan
Really?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I love Sting.
He's one of my favorites.
Just all the jams, you know what I'm saying?
Like, the classic shit.
Like, you could put on any song, like, for real, for real.
And I fuck with it because I listen to a lot of different music.
And, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Marvin Gaye, man.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, he's one of my favorites.
joe rogan
He was phenomenal, man.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, Marvin Gaye was really good.
joe rogan
And his tragic story.
wiz khalifa
That was crazy.
joe rogan
His dad shot him.
It's so crazy.
I dated a girl once.
This girl was so nuts.
And we were talking about Marvin Gaye.
No, no, no.
We were talking about Marvin Gaye, and I was saying, it's so insane that his dad shot him.
And she said, imagine what a piece of shit he had to be for his dad to shoot him.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
And I was like, what?
I go, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
Why would you assume he's the piece of shit when his dad fucking shot him?
joe rogan
If he's a piece of shit, why doesn't his dad just get away from him?
No, if his dad's shooting him, his dad's a piece of shit.
But it was amazing.
She was instantly thinking he's a piece of shit.
I'm like, I don't get your logic.
wiz khalifa
It's crazy.
That's someone with a good dad.
joe rogan
That's because she's someone who grew up with a good...
She still loved her dad.
She was close with her dad.
Yeah, so I was like, I don't even know my dad.
To me, I'm like, that dad shot him because he was Marvin Gaye.
He's probably upset that his son had become Marvin Gaye.
unidentified
Truth.
joe rogan
Imagine being Marvin Gaye too.
All your songs are like the best music to fuck to.
And he didn't have, there was nothing, there was no slide into the DMs.
They had to find them physically.
wiz khalifa
But he seemed like kind of like a faithful guy.
He seemed like he would find one chick and just fuck her and write an album about it.
joe rogan
That would be a good narrative.
I think it's hard for those dudes.
If they're singing about fucking all the time, it's coming their way.
It's a tsunami.
wiz khalifa
But they usually just want to fuck one girl like that.
Right.
Romantic dudes.
Yeah, exactly.
When the music's dark, like...
Easy E. You know what I mean?
He's fucking mad, bitches.
He wasn't talking about just one.
joe rogan
Right, right.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
wiz khalifa
He wasn't on his Marvin Gaye shit.
joe rogan
That was what I remember.
wiz khalifa
Because he said sexual healing.
You know what I mean?
When you get that feeling, he needs sexual healing.
The shit made him feel better when he was with her.
joe rogan
That's a big difference between N.W.A.'s first album.
Big difference in the message.
Sexual healing.
There's some shit from the early gangster rap days you listen to today, you're like, whoa!
This is crazy stuff.
I remember it at the time when it was first coming out, and no one could understand.
unidentified
There was no music like this before, and then all of a sudden you have Ice-T. Yeah, that was before they even had the freaking parental advisory on there.
wiz khalifa
They made that because...
It was like, parents, make sure y'all check this out before your kids get it.
joe rogan
It was Al Gore's wife.
It was Tipper Gore.
She was the one who was in charge.
It was like she was leading the charge.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Against...
I think it was her.
Make sure I'm right about that.
Is it?
unidentified
I'm not mad at that.
wiz khalifa
That made rap music better.
joe rogan
You think so?
wiz khalifa
Hell yeah.
It's like made it more dangerous.
joe rogan
Oh, but put the extreme...
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
It's like a rated R movie.
joe rogan
They were trying to ban some stuff, though.
They were trying to ban certain kinds of music.
wiz khalifa
Like Luke and like...
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that was Florida.
Florida's crazy.
Don't fuck around in Florida.
If they catch you in Florida, they arrest people for...
wiz khalifa
Anything.
joe rogan
You can get arrested for obscenity in Florida.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, I'm straight.
I'm good.
I'm not going to Florida.
joe rogan
Florida was a...
wiz khalifa
Well, I'll go, but I'm not going crazy in Florida.
Yeah.
Briar County.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just don't get arrested for swearing.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's what they got two live crew for.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Explicit lyrics.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck.
wiz khalifa
I'm good on all that action.
joe rogan
People forget about that, right?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those guys were like the Lenny Bruce of rap.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
Lenny Bruce is a guy who got arrested a bunch of times for stand-up comedy because he wouldn't change his words and his swearing on stage.
He was brought in front of the court.
That was two live crew in a lot of ways.
wiz khalifa
Imagine going to jail for like...
joe rogan
For rap.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
That's crazy.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
For saying something.
wiz khalifa
For saying something.
joe rogan
Somebody doesn't like it so they want to put you in a cage.
wiz khalifa
Wow.
joe rogan
Because they don't like how you're saying.
wiz khalifa
Wow.
joe rogan
They don't like what you're saying.
They don't like how you're saying it.
Could you arrest someone if they just said that somewhere?
What if they're in the comfort of their own house and they said the things that are in that?
Is that illegal?
Could you yell it out the window?
Could I drive down the road yelling it out the window?
wiz khalifa
Should be able to.
joe rogan
Should be able to.
Who the fuck are you, man?
Who the fuck are you to tell people they can't do that?
But then Florida, they're like, nope, obscenity.
wiz khalifa
For rap.
Florida's like its own world, though.
That's why when shit goes down, it's like, alright, and then it's Florida.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so its own world that it's being overrun with invasive species.
A lady got attacked by an alligator just yesterday.
You hear about that, Jamie?
wiz khalifa
I feel like that happens all the time down there.
joe rogan
Happens all the time.
More often than not.
More often rather than not.
Nope, that's not even the good way to say it.
More often now than before because there's a lot of them.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
I could imagine being a Gator, not having nowhere to go, just kicking it in Florida.
joe rogan
Want to eat some stupid lady?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, look at this dumbass slow bitch.
wiz khalifa
And I've been around for a long-ass fucking time.
joe rogan
I'm hungry as fuck.
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Florida's fucking crazy.
Let's eat.
joe rogan
And you just look at that lady like, she's so annoying.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe no one will even notice.
wiz khalifa
I don't even eat ladies, but I'm going to do it today.
joe rogan
Mostly they eat dogs.
They love to eat people's dogs.
That's what's fucked up.
wiz khalifa
See, it's a good snack.
I love dogs, though, so I don't know.
But if I was a gator, a dog would be a good snack.
For sure.
joe rogan
It's a good meal.
wiz khalifa
I would prefer a dog than a lady.
joe rogan
Yeah, people have clothes on.
wiz khalifa
Exactly.
joe rogan
They digest their sneakers and shit.
unidentified
Man.
joe rogan
That's annoying.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
Shoes don't taste good.
joe rogan
If you didn't live in California, what state would you live in?
wiz khalifa
Hmm.
If I didn't live in Cali, what state would I live in?
Not Georgia, not Florida, not Pennsylvania, not New York.
joe rogan
Not New York, huh?
wiz khalifa
Nah.
joe rogan
Too crazy?
wiz khalifa
Maybe upstate New York.
joe rogan
Ah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, maybe upstate.
It's too cold, though.
joe rogan
You gotta worry about ticks, too.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, fuck ticks.
joe rogan
Fuck ticks.
wiz khalifa
Man.
joe rogan
Everybody gets Lyme disease out there.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
Damn.
I don't know.
I never thought about that.
joe rogan
The shit hits the fan.
wiz khalifa
I love California so much.
joe rogan
Tsunami rolls over us.
wiz khalifa
Maybe I'll go to Australia.
joe rogan
Every time I'm on the highway nowadays and it's jammed up, bumper to bumper, I just say, imagine if something happened.
This is just Thursday.
It's a regular Thursday and it's bumper to bumper.
Imagine if some shit went down.
wiz khalifa
That'd be fucked up.
People wouldn't know what to do.
When it rains out here, people don't know what to do.
joe rogan
They panic.
They slam into each other.
They get out of drive.
wiz khalifa
It's like, dog, it's just rain.
unidentified
It's just water coming out the sky.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
It's a strange place to live, right?
Because people aren't tested out here by climate.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
joe rogan
On the East Coast, they're tested by climate.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
joe rogan
That wind comes.
That snowy wind comes.
You gotta get the fuck inside.
wiz khalifa
You gotta winterize your car.
unidentified
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Gotta get snow tires.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's real.
wiz khalifa
Motherfuckers out here don't know about that.
joe rogan
They don't know.
wiz khalifa
They don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know.
jamie vernon
350 tornadoes last week.
wiz khalifa
Where?
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard about that.
jamie vernon
In the Midwest, wherever, Tornado Alley.
wiz khalifa
Shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, they got fucked up, man.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
That was like Ohio and where else?
Kentucky, I think?
wiz khalifa
They're just handing out tornadoes.
jamie vernon
Missouri got hit hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
I mean, I don't know if that's really because of climate change, that those are ramping up.
But if they ramp up in unprecedented levels like that and it becomes impossible to live in Ohio...
Or Kentucky or anywhere where there's tornadoes.
Can you imagine how nuts that is?
If we find out that the center of the country is just tornado, like a tornado bowling area.
wiz khalifa
Wow.
joe rogan
Just a bowl filled with tornadoes.
jamie vernon
In Florida, you're just dodging hurricanes most of the year.
They just get lucky if it doesn't happen where you are.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get lucky.
Yeah, you're a dick sticking out into the ocean, and it's right where all the tornadoes get formed, or all the hurricanes get formed.
wiz khalifa
They all get formed there.
joe rogan
That's where they all go, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's like warmer waters, right?
wiz khalifa
Here we go.
We're going to get started right here.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck hurricanes.
I've been in a little baby hurricane before.
And I was living in Boston, which is pretty far away from the ocean, in terms of where my house was.
And still, it was like, wow.
And I was a little baby one.
It was nothing.
By the time it got to us, it was nothing.
wiz khalifa
I lived in Japan for two years.
Did you really?
And they used to have some crazy fucking earthquakes over there.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
While you were there?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, they had earthquakes and typhoons.
joe rogan
You saw both?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, hell yeah.
joe rogan
What was an earthquake like?
wiz khalifa
Bad.
You've never been in one here?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've been a baby one.
I've been in like a 5.5.
wiz khalifa
Bro, I'm talking about whole room just shaking.
It's like a ride at Universal because you see shit moving.
It's like, damn, is this really happening?
Yeah.
And this shit happens, bro.
Like, the earthquakes over there are insane.
joe rogan
Wow.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
And they get some crazy rain, like, when the typhoons come.
That shit gets really violent, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
The Japanese are, you know, they hold it down.
joe rogan
What were you doing living over there?
wiz khalifa
My parents were military.
My mom was in there for a little bit, but then she got out.
And then my dad was in there.
He got out but remarried.
So that's how I stayed in the military thing, was my stepmom.
And I would move...
We would live on base, you know what I mean, for like two years or whatever, and then I would move back with my mom.
joe rogan
Wow.
What was it like living in Japan as a young guy?
wiz khalifa
It was crazy.
Like, it was fun.
I lived there in the late 90s, so it was like...
When technology was first changing, music was just now going into MP3s and shit like that.
So there was that.
Pokemon was really popular over there.
It was fun, just being a kid, running around, fucking it up in Japan.
It was cool, man.
It was fun as hell.
joe rogan
That's an interesting little...
Extra level to your brain, right?
Like you grew up those two years in a completely different kind of culture.
So you have a different understanding of what's possible.
wiz khalifa
Right, 100%.
joe rogan
I think that's so big for kids, man.
Show them shit.
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
Yeah, it helped out a lot for sure.
Yeah, it was cool.
joe rogan
It has to, right?
As far as your perspective?
wiz khalifa
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was fun.
I've only been to Tokyo for a few days.
Only once.
And I was like, this is one of the trippiest places I've ever been in my life.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's so interesting.
wiz khalifa
It was crazy.
Living there was wild.
No TV, regular TV. They don't got any American TV stations.
Oh, wow.
So for two years, I was just like...
joe rogan
Disconnected.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, like I didn't have shit.
joe rogan
So this is before Netflix and everything too, right?
Or YouTube.
Wow.
That's amazing.
That was probably really good for you.
wiz khalifa
Nah, it sucked.
I couldn't watch wrestling.
joe rogan
But I bet it was really good for your brain.
wiz khalifa
No.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
wiz khalifa
I need that.
I need my entertainment, man.
Fuck that, yo.
I need to be a part of the world.
I couldn't buy all the CDs and shit that everybody was listening to.
It was whack.
joe rogan
Did you learn to speak Japanese?
wiz khalifa
Just a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yup.
unidentified
Wow.
wiz khalifa
Baby Japanese just to get around and shit, but I forgot it though.
joe rogan
You forgot it all?
wiz khalifa
Not all of it.
It'll come back if I like, you know what I mean?
You run me through it, but I can't sit here and say no Japanese words.
joe rogan
How hard was it to learn?
wiz khalifa
It wasn't difficult.
joe rogan
No?
wiz khalifa
Nah, nah, it's not difficult.
Reading it is difficult.
joe rogan
Oh, it's different?
wiz khalifa
Because they have symbols or characters.
So it's like one character means like three of our words.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Yeah, yep.
wiz khalifa
And then they have like three different styles of writing too.
So it's like we have print and cursive.
They have three different ones.
joe rogan
Oh, that sounds so annoying.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, it's weird.
joe rogan
On one hand, you don't want it to go away because it's an ancient language.
On another hand, you're like, can you clean this up?
Simplify this shit?
wiz khalifa
I honestly think they got it down pat.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't even want us to fucking know that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
At the end of the day, they're like, we'll learn English if we want to.
But if you want to learn Japanese, it's going to be difficult, bro.
joe rogan
I want to learn some Asian language because I'm fascinated by reading like Twitter messages.
You know how many more characters they had?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They can write books.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
140 characters, like how many words is that though?
wiz khalifa
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that's a lot of fucking words.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
If it's 280. True.
I mean, 280 are those Asian, whether it's Chinese or Japanese, those little symbols.
That's a lot of talking, man.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, yeah.
It's hard to put like the ingredients on shit.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I'd imagine.
Do they have symbols for numbers or just use numbers?
wiz khalifa
I forgot what the numbers look like.
I think it's symbols.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
wiz khalifa
I don't imagine that it's like one, two, and three.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
wiz khalifa
Right.
joe rogan
You must have something.
I never even thought of that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Let's go with Japanese.
Does Japanese...
Does the Japanese language have symbols that represent numbers?
Like you would write the letters T-H-R-E-E for three.
Like that.
Like you would write three or you'd be the number three.
Do they have that in Japanese?
wiz khalifa
Nah, because Japanese is like each knee, son, she.
Oh.
There's different, whole different words for it.
So it's like...
One is Ichi, however you spell that in Japanese.
I'm starting to kind of remember what it looks like now.
joe rogan
Do you think if you could move back there right now, you'd just get right back in the swing of things after a while?
wiz khalifa
Sure.
joe rogan
David Lee Roth moved there from Van Halen, the lead singer of Van Halen.
He moved down there and took kendo lessons.
He lived there for more than a year.
wiz khalifa
I would probably appreciate it more now as an adult.
joe rogan
You think so?
wiz khalifa
Yeah, because as a kid, you kind of just want to run wild and do everything that you see on TV. Oh, so you must be annoyed that you're stuck there.
It was kind of weird, you know what I mean?
I was 13, like, wanting to go crazy.
It was fun for a little while, but you want to go back home and shit.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Of course.
wiz khalifa
But as an adult, I feel like I would benefit a lot more from it.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So, at this stage of your career, when you're looking at what you're putting down, when you're making albums, when you're putting together your music, what excites you the most about it?
unidentified
Um...
wiz khalifa
I'm a huge fan of music in general.
So I get just inspired off of production and shit like that, like the newest producers and shit.
Because I like to go out, I like to enjoy myself, I like to have fun.
So whatever is popping at that time, whatever the sound is, whether it's West Coast inspired or if it's down South inspired, I'm just interested in...
Finding my own way of doing what's new and what my fans would love from me.
Because as a music person, you want something new every time.
You don't want the old shit all the time.
You could go buy that.
So I just love creating and just coming up with what's new.
You know what I mean?
I work with the newest producers.
I work with the newest artists.
I work with...
You know what I mean?
I try to make my shit sound different.
Every time I always tell my engineer, I'm like, yo, let's fuck with the shit sonically so it don't sound the same as the last album.
I come up with new ad-libs or just different shit to just kind of keep it fresh.
Still do what people know me for, you know what I mean?
But it's like just coming up with new ways of doing that.
I get excited.
joe rogan
That's awesome to hear.
I love it when someone loves what they're doing and it comes out great.
wiz khalifa
Yeah, thanks.
joe rogan
It's beautiful to see.
It really is.
And that, to me, is one of the most inspiring things that I get out of any artist.
It's like hearing them talk about their process.
I don't know why.
I always get jazzed up.
wiz khalifa
I love it.
It's crazy for me because there's different ways to do what I do.
I have...
So many ways.
I could sit there and just come up with some shit, brand new.
Or I have the Oreo commercial with my son, where there's a team of people who come up with what could be the best for me, and I just do that shit, and then it just goes crazy.
You know what I mean?
It's like See You Again is one of my biggest songs, and that song had eight different people on it.
But I wrote two verses that the person who made the original song, I wrote two verses for it that they loved more than anybody else's song.
I mean, anybody else's.
So they gave me the whole record and it ended up being my host.
I mean, one of my biggest songs.
You know what I mean?
So it's like the process of just like putting yourself in the situation and just being like, all right, cool, let's work.
That's beneficial.
It's as beneficial as being, you know what I mean, a creative, just, okay, I'm going to do what I do.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes you got to step outside of that and just use your talents.
It's like being an actor or, you know what I mean?
Like you just fill in that spot that people need you in.
And I'm kind of at that point in my career because I work so hard on And grinded and done so many things and come up with so many waves and ideas that didn't exist before.
Now I can use other people's ideas and just be myself and get a really big effect and everybody is happy.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
wiz khalifa
Yep.
joe rogan
Dude, you're living the life.
You got it nailed.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
I had a great time talking to you, man.
wiz khalifa
Thank you, bro.
joe rogan
I really appreciate it, man.
unidentified
Awesome time, too.
wiz khalifa
I appreciate you, too, bro.
joe rogan
Very nice.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Hell yeah.
That's it, everybody.
Bye.
unidentified
Yeah!
Awesome.
That was great.
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