Nov. 11, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:32:35
Participants
| 
| Speaker | Time | Text |
|---|---|---|
| 18-year-old and shit like that, right? | ||
| His daughter? | ||
| Here we go, here we go. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Three, two, one. | |
| Damn, it's been a minute since we did one of these. | ||
| Hot minute. | ||
| How long has it been? | ||
|
unidentified
|
I can't remember. | |
| At least six months. | ||
| Longer than that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Longer than that. | |
| And Cal is just not part of the fight. | ||
| This is the fight companion these days. | ||
| Wow, you're kicking him out. | ||
| I can't believe it. | ||
| I knew it was going to happen. | ||
| Dude, what are we going to do? | ||
| We've got a fallen kind of... | ||
| Got to put him out to sea, man. | ||
| He's getting old. | ||
| He just can't make it anymore and shit. | ||
| What's that dude from the Beatles that they kicked out? | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Before Ringo came in? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Was he the original drummer? | ||
| Peter or something like that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right? | |
| He was a drummer, right? | ||
| Well, fuck Peter if you bring in Ringo. | ||
| He was... | ||
| It was so sad. | ||
| Pete Best. | ||
| Pete Best. | ||
| I was listening to this Malcolm Gladwell book on tape. | ||
| It's called Outliers. | ||
| And they got into a part about the Beatles. | ||
| The Beatles, man. | ||
| Pete Pest, he was there in the beginning, man. | ||
| He did these crazy gigs with them. | ||
| Could you imagine, like, you being a part of a band, and then you get kicked out of that band, it turns into the Beatles. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The Beatles? | |
| I mean, that's never happened before. | ||
| I mean, no one has ever been to the Beatles before, right? | ||
| So no one has ever been. | ||
| Is that him right there? | ||
| Oh, he doesn't look like he fits in, does he? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Dude. | |
| No one has ever been that guy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
How about those chicks screaming when they first... | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| There was nothing like that before that. | ||
| There's people saying that that was all staged. | ||
| No. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Come on, Eddie. | |
| Those girls screaming? | ||
| Fuck, no. | ||
| There's people saying that. | ||
| There's not good enough actors out there. | ||
| It was on YouTube. | ||
| Then Biebers are faking, too. | ||
| I'll send you a link. | ||
| The Biebs has the same effect on girls. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| Girls lose their minds when they see certain dudes, Brendan Shaw. | ||
| Never like that, though. | ||
| Never like that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
If you look at that old footage. | |
| They just go crazy. | ||
| Look at those chicks. | ||
| Dude, that's because they didn't have the internet. | ||
| They didn't know they were being dorks. | ||
| That was natural. | ||
| That's how every girl naturally feels. | ||
| There's no Instagram. | ||
| There's no Instagram. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| So the first time you see them in person, we have a sense. | ||
| Is there a possibility that it was set up? | ||
| Is there a possibility? | ||
| Stop with the conspiracy. | ||
| We have an idea of what women are based on how women behave around us when they're worried about the way we think about them. | ||
| The same way we behave differently when it's all us when there's no women around. | ||
| There's just ways that people behave. | ||
| And if you leave all these women together... | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| If you leave all these women together and it's 19 what? | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| What's that, the 60s? | ||
| The late 60s? | ||
| 62? | ||
| Right when JFK died? | ||
| Dude, they didn't even barely have books back then. | ||
| Dude, they didn't have shit. | ||
| They were happy to get out of the kitchen. | ||
| They got the Beatles walked by. | ||
| Do they have footage of them girls screaming? | ||
| Of course they had books. | ||
| I'm joking. | ||
| But what I'm not joking around about is that no one had ever experienced anything like that before, and if you get all these girls together, and they're seeing these guys who they're seeing on television, and they're seeing on the Ed Sullivan Show, and they're seeing them everywhere, and they're in the newspapers and the magazines, and they see these guys, and the sounds they make are so good, and the way they sing and play music together is so magical, and it's so unprecedented, and it's a new kind of sound, and they're just special. | ||
| And these girls just can't help it. | ||
| They're like, ME! Crying, screaming from the eggs. | ||
| Have you ever seen a taping of a TV show? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you ever see the big applause light with your applause? | ||
| Is that a real applause or is that a fake applause? | ||
| I mean, that's fake. | ||
| So it's possible. | ||
| That's a different level, bro. | ||
| That's a different level, dude. | ||
| Already, bro? | ||
| We're five minutes in. | ||
| Listen, those applause lights, they're not a conspiracy. | ||
| They're not a conspiracy, but they are kind of cheesy. | ||
| Dude, look at Justin Bieber's concert. | ||
| He's hot as fuck. | ||
| He is hot. | ||
| But I worked security for some of these bands, and I worked for when Hilary Duff was in her heyday. | ||
| I'm talking bitches passing out from excitement. | ||
| I have to grab their big asses out of the crowd. | ||
| That's not fake, Eddie. | ||
| That's real, dude. | ||
| I'm talking bitches crying. | ||
| We have to understand, girls have a completely different reaction. | ||
| Not all girls, but some girls. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Some dudes, too! | |
| With you, bro! | ||
| Do you remember the reactions? | ||
| There's a lot of Beatles footage of the audience, but there's girls just fucking flipping out, screaming and crying, like just going nuts. | ||
| You remember those? | ||
| Those shots? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Look, do I think that girls would act up? | ||
| To get on camera? | ||
| To make it a bigger deal? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Do I think that's what they were all doing? | ||
| No. | ||
| Look at this mayhem. | ||
| Dude, I think they couldn't believe that the Beatles were actually there. | ||
| There had never been anybody like the Beatles before. | ||
| Cockthirsty, bro. | ||
| Dude, I think they were just hypnotized. | ||
| There's something singing out in their DNA about that music. | ||
| Because, look, we can listen to the Beatles today, and it's still great. | ||
| I listened to the White Album just the other day. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| I listened to it from beginning to end. | ||
| They weren't that sexy, though. | ||
| They weren't like hard drops. | ||
| They had dickhead haircuts. | ||
| They don't have to be. | ||
| They look basic. | ||
| They don't have to be. | ||
|
unidentified
|
No, I know. | |
| It's the music. | ||
| It's the music. | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| And this movie, or this book, rather, the Malcolm Gladwell book, was all about... | ||
| Extraordinary performances like what people have done that's been completely extraordinary and one of them was talking about how the Beatles got so good because they played I think it was Berlin was where they play or Hamburg one of those so they played somewhere where they played all night they played like multiple hours a night and they played every day they played us insane number in front of audiences in front of audiences they just played constantly and He talked about the importance of that That by the time | ||
| we got to see them, by the time they were on television, they had played together so many more times than the average band will do in their entire career. | ||
| Like the sheer numbers, they were always playing, always doing these live performances. | ||
| I forget where it was. | ||
| The Cavern Club? | ||
| Where was it? | ||
| The Beatles at the Cavern Club is what it was called, I think. | ||
| Where was the place that they performed early in their career? | ||
| I want to say it was Hamburg. | ||
| This is the first of a long series of resident nights during a traditional jazz evening. | ||
| They performed an interval as the only rock group during an all-night session including jazz. | ||
| It might be one of many things they've done. | ||
| I think this was before they made it. | ||
| This was as they were young guys coming up. | ||
| Here's another thing about the Beatles and Hamburg. | ||
| Just so many repetitions. | ||
| Yeah, and he talked about that Pete Best dude. | ||
| He's going, fuck, I was in the mix. | ||
| Did he end up doing anything? | ||
| Did he start his own band? | ||
| How do you recover from that? | ||
| Biggest L of all time. | ||
| Here's the thing, there's never been a Beatles before. | ||
| See, we're looking at the Beatles like we already know they're awesome. | ||
| They're already a part of pop culture history. | ||
| I missed them. | ||
| I'm younger. | ||
| Yeah, but if we lived back then, man, if it was like 1963 and the Beatles burst in the scene, you would be like, what the fuck? | ||
| Is there anything close to that? | ||
| Now we have too much stimulus. | ||
| We see it too much. | ||
| Instagram, we get inside their lives. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard to find anything like that. | ||
| There's that Korean band that's fucking huge. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Huge. | |
| A Korean band? | ||
| Yes, that girls freak out. | ||
| A K-pop band. | ||
| I forget their name. | ||
| But you'll see they'll put them in at the Grammys and stuff. | ||
| And the entire crowd is these young, teenage Korean girls going fucking ape shit for them. | ||
| They're huge. | ||
| But there's like the Backstreet Boys and New Kids on the Block. | ||
| What about Baby Metal? | ||
| Have you heard of them? | ||
| What? | ||
| Baby Metal? | ||
| No. | ||
| You haven't heard of Baby Metal? | ||
| Never, bro. | ||
| You've heard of Baby Metal? | ||
| Jamie's on the ball with the Yankee stuff. | ||
| Baby Metal is super technical power metal, but they have little Japanese girls singing. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's gigantic. | ||
| It's gigantic. | ||
| Are you into it, Eddie, or no? | ||
| No, it's just funny. | ||
| You can't put this on YouTube, right? | ||
| Well, you yanked. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Just a second. | |
| Just a second, I can. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| And it's super hardcore metal. | ||
| This is like... | ||
| It's like... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Watch. | |
| When you talk about repetitions, they do, you know, in Korea, you can watch a documentary on the K-pop stuff, and they don't, like, it's not chemistry where they get them together, they force them together, and then they, it's, you're talking 14 hours a day, they make them rehearse, practice, practice, they can't have girlfriends, boyfriends, they tell them when to eat, where to sleep, it's a beast. | ||
| Fuck that noise. | ||
| That's why one of the biggest Korean pop singers of all time committed suicide. | ||
| Just didn't want to deal with the restrictions and the control. | ||
| Sounds like Illuminati. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So they're like the old school studio model. | ||
| You ever hear that? | ||
| Menudo? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Didn't they used to do that with bands? | ||
| They used to do that even with movies. | ||
| In the old school studio days, they'd sign them to these long-term contracts, and they would produce all the stuff for them. | ||
| And force them to do things. | ||
| Studios would sign actors to contracts, right? | ||
| Do they still do that? | ||
| That's them, by the way, Jamie. | ||
| BTS. BTS. Behind the scenes? | ||
| Is that what fans were? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| We haven't said anything about the fights. | ||
| I don't know anything about what young kids are doing today. | ||
| I have to go to Jamie. | ||
| And Jamie's an intermediary. | ||
| Because he's a grown man. | ||
| He's not a boy. | ||
| He's a blue belt. | ||
| He's not a 20 year old. | ||
| How old are you? | ||
| 35. I have to try to pay attention. | ||
| I try too, man. | ||
| Jamie's struggling to pay attention. | ||
| The young girls, you know, I was at the mall today with my son, the young girls with the cut-off jean shorts and the ass cheeks hanging out the back. | ||
| I know that's in. | ||
| Dude, that is crazy. | ||
| I mean, just ass out the back, bro. | ||
| Out the back. | ||
| People are just trying so hard. | ||
| Just to get recognition, man. | ||
| It's a fascinating time to be a person. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| So interesting right now. | ||
| It's a good time. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's a great time. | ||
| Also a rough time. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| With all the mass shooters. | ||
| That's the fucked up part. | ||
| Especially in Thousand Oaks. | ||
| That was a safe-ass place. | ||
| Yeah, how is that happening? | ||
| And a Marine. | ||
| A former Marine. | ||
| How about a dude that was in the Las Vegas shooting as a survivor, was a survivor in the Thousand Oaks shooting? | ||
| What are the fucking odds of that? | ||
| Same year? | ||
|
unidentified
|
What are the odds of that? | |
| Insane. | ||
| Think about the odds of that. | ||
| What? | ||
| I think there was someone who was in the Vegas shooting who survived that, who was at this one that died, right? | ||
| Was there? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Either way, it's dark shit. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Okay. | |
| They don't have no idea of his motive or anything, right? | ||
| The cops had investigated him. | ||
| They investigated him fairly recently because they thought he was unstable or something like that. | ||
| I think his mom called the cops. | ||
| Somebody called the cops, and they investigated him and talked to him. | ||
| That's always tough if you're an FBI. What do you want us to do, arrest him for being fucking weird? | ||
| He didn't threaten us. | ||
| What can we do? | ||
| For everyone that does this, there's 100,000 that don't. | ||
| You know, I mean, you gotta figure out what the fuck is it that allows people to decide to hit that switch. | ||
| I don't know if they understand that. | ||
| What's the psychological motivation of that? | ||
| But it's got to be a sign that there's something wrong with our culture, if it's popping up so often. | ||
| It's got to be a sign that there's something wrong. | ||
| Obviously, they always chalk it up to mental health, and all right, yeah, he has mental health. | ||
| You know how many people have mental health issues, and none of them are going to blow people up or shoot people? | ||
| There's different kinds of mental health issues. | ||
| But there's also just bad people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sometimes you've got to chalk it up to that, too. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| But you know, a lot of bad people, like a giant number, have had horrible things happen to them. | ||
| That's where it gets weird. | ||
| Because it's like, okay, what made this guy become who he is? | ||
| I mean, you definitely should... | ||
| You definitely should arrest someone who does evil shit, right? | ||
| But what makes a person get to a point where they can do evil shit? | ||
| There's a whole series of events probably take place, including abuse, physical abuse, maybe sexual abuse. | ||
| And sometimes there's not. | ||
| Sometimes you just get a bad apple. | ||
| Like with Jeffrey Dahmer, it's like his parents are like... | ||
| Yeah, you definitely can get some weird shit with his mom, but still. | ||
| You know how some people are born, they have problems with their liver. | ||
| Some people are born, they have problems with their brain. | ||
| That's just a fact. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| There's problems with the eyesight. | ||
| There's problems with, you know, people are born deaf. | ||
| There's errors in the human body sometimes. | ||
| You don't think that someone could be born just completely squirrelly, wired wrong. | ||
| Of course they can. | ||
| It only makes sense. | ||
| I'm not a doctor, obviously. | ||
| I'm a fucking moron. | ||
| But I bet a doctor would agree. | ||
| That when you're dealing with mental health issues, you're probably dealing with this giant spectrum of them. | ||
| What if there's something we could check so that like when they're a baby could check and there's something in the DNA. That's called eugenics. | ||
| But in there like this, he's going to be a bad kid. | ||
| Do we just... | ||
| What do you do with him? | ||
| But how do you know he's going to be about... | ||
| How many people... | ||
| Based on the symmetry of your face. | ||
| But how many people want to be a better person and they don't ever get it together? | ||
| And how many people are lacking some sort of coaching or lacking some... | ||
| Inspiration. | ||
| Yeah, inspiration. | ||
| Positive people in their life and then their life spirals further and further downhill. | ||
| How many people are on the border? | ||
|
unidentified
|
God. | |
| The majority, right? | ||
| Yes, because I think people change and I think people improve as they grow older and as they become wiser and they have more experiences. | ||
| But also, if you look at the mass shooters, a lot of them are quote-unquote losers. | ||
| They live in their parents' basement. | ||
| They don't have anything going on. | ||
| A lot of them are white. | ||
| A lot of them look like shit. | ||
| They're always white. | ||
| They're always white. | ||
| Low energy. | ||
| Always white. | ||
| Low energy. | ||
| Sometimes not low energy. | ||
| This guy didn't seem low energy. | ||
| You know, the Nazis made propaganda films. | ||
| Basically, they made people believe that mentally deranged people were out on the streets attacking and killing people. | ||
| And they made propaganda films so that they would okay killing someone who was, you know, mentally deranged. | ||
| You always have to be careful of people trying to label someone as someone that you don't have to consider a regular human. | ||
| Someone who you could disregard. | ||
| That's what they do with the Jews, right? | ||
| They're rats. | ||
| They're stealing from us. | ||
| They're monsters. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| People have done that throughout history to other people. | ||
| There's like a scientific term for it. | ||
| I don't remember what it is. | ||
| Eugenics. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| It's a scientific term for people that demonize other groups of people. | ||
| And the way they look at people... | ||
| Propagandists? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The way you look at people, like this is a person, and you looked at the enemy, you would look at them like a subhuman. | ||
| Racist. | ||
| It is definitely racist, but there's a trait that people... | ||
| There's a pattern that people commonly fall into with that. | ||
| I feel like it's a common word, too. | ||
| We're all stupid in here. | ||
| We're all stupid. | ||
| But dehumanizing the enemy, it's a natural thing that people do. | ||
| Everyone does it. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| And it's how people can do gang warfare. | ||
| It's how people can do tribal warfare. | ||
| It's how people can do intercontinental warfare. | ||
| Where you had your boy, what's his name, the English cat, the hypnotizer? | ||
| Darren Brown. | ||
| Darren Brown. | ||
| Have you seen his thing on Netflix? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's fucking sick. | ||
| And so, I'm not, it's no spoiler alert, but, so, he took a guy, like, he took a ton of people, took a guy who lives in Florida, who's in construction, and who was super kind of racist towards immigrants, like Mexicans and Hispanics, and he sat him down because he thought he was the perfect one for sure taking his phone off, bro. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Jesus, goddammit. | |
| What in the fuck? | ||
| Goddamn, bro. | ||
| It's Gio right now. | ||
| Hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
| Hey, Gio, I'm on Fight Companion right now with Joe Rogan. | ||
| Say hey, hey, hey. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Okay, sorry about that. | |
| Did you hear about it or what? | ||
| Yeah, I was watching it. | ||
| I watched your fight with Rosenthal. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, why was that? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Points, dude. | ||
| That's the point system. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's the way they go down. | ||
| They called me a thawing point. | ||
|
unidentified
|
They gave me a point, I took it from the head, and then they took it away and gave me the hint. | |
| 10 seconds left in a match. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
While I was smashing, while I had the underhook on him. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Like, I'm on top half, I come back out to quarter guard, and then they call me for stalling. | |
| Like, I don't get that. | ||
| Like, we pass on our knees all the time. | ||
| Like, it's a match pass, you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, so that's what it was. | ||
| They called stalling for you being in top half? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Is that why you lost? | ||
| Oh, I thought it was a judge's decision and they gave it to him based on that almost... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, there's no judge's decision. | |
| Okay. | ||
| This is super technical talk. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The only thing I made jujitsu more boring is hearing a guy talk about jujitsu. | |
| Let me call you back. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| I don't think jujitsu is boring. | ||
| I don't either, but if you explain it... | ||
| No fucking idea what that was. | ||
| Gino Martinez in the house. | ||
| Monster. | ||
| Gino is a fantastic tack belt under Eddie Bravo, and he's one we've referenced many times in the podcast. | ||
| Him and his brother Richie, Boogeyman, because both those guys started out as b-boys. | ||
| They started out as these really badass break dancers, and they have incredible control of their body. | ||
| And I remember when they first started training at Eddie's place, Eddie was like, he had a new formula. | ||
| He was like, dude, fucking b-boys! | ||
| Everyone breakdance. | ||
| That's the key. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Tony can breakdance too, though. | |
| And he wrestled. | ||
| So he's got both. | ||
| What's up with Tony? | ||
| What's going on with Tony? | ||
| I feel bad for him. | ||
| I feel like they're leaving him in the fucking dust. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, they're not leaving him in the dust. | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| No. | ||
| They're very serious about doing something with Tony Ferguson. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Dana even said that he is most likely next in line for Khabib. | ||
| Tony Ferguson, look, after that performance... | ||
| He deserves it, man. | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| And after that performance against Pettis, like, come on, man. | ||
| This is the time. | ||
| It's the time to set him up. | ||
| He's so fucking tough. | ||
| Khabib wants it, too, though. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think Khabib said him or GSB, right? | ||
| It's the fights, man. | ||
| Tony hasn't lost in, what, is it 12 fights now? | ||
| How many fights is it? | ||
| 11? | ||
| It's 11 or 12 fight win streak against guys like Edson Barboza, Darcyza. | ||
| Kevin Lee. | ||
| Kevin Lee triangles him. | ||
| Pettis. | ||
| Pettis gets an injury, but before the end... | ||
| Josh Thompson. | ||
| Josh Thompson. | ||
| It's 11, yeah? | ||
| Rafael Dos Anjos. | ||
| Up. | ||
| Lando Venado. | ||
| Dos Anjos. | ||
| Lando fucking came at him, dude. | ||
| He's beat some tough fucking guys, man. | ||
| Lando came at him. | ||
| He had no training camp for that one. | ||
| He didn't train him for that one. | ||
| A lot of problems. | ||
| You think that's the next fight they make, though? | ||
| Lando's a talented guy, man. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| I mean, he clipped him. | ||
| And he clipped him. | ||
| He clipped him with that. | ||
| He does this head kick out of the break. | ||
| But he survived that and won. | ||
| I mean, dude, Tony Ferguson is a fucking beast. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Abel Triho, Danny Castillo. | ||
| Those are no punks, man. | ||
| Josh Thompson, Monster, Barboza, Venata, Dos Anjos. | ||
| Just look at Barboza, Venata, Rafael Dos Anjos, and Kevin Lee, and then Anthony Pettis in a row. | ||
| He beats those guys. | ||
| Does not nearly get the attention he deserves. | ||
| God, man. | ||
| He's got a million followers now. | ||
| And he's more. | ||
| He should be... | ||
| First of all, I don't think he should have been stripped. | ||
| Because he got injured one time. | ||
| Doing USC press. | ||
| And doing something. | ||
| He tripped over some wires. | ||
| It's a freak accident. | ||
| It's just something that happened. | ||
| You know, to strip him because of that. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
| And I think he beat Anthony Pettis at 60%. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You would know more, Eddie, but he... | |
| He's looked better before the injury, obviously, but him coming back that fast, doing what he did, even Dom Cruz is like, I don't know how the fuck he's doing this. | ||
| So I thought even as good as he looked, that's not even him at his... | ||
| You know, he's gonna be even better in this next fight. | ||
| Well, I think Pettis looked really good too. | ||
| You gotta give credit to Pettis. | ||
| Pettis clipped him and he had him hurt. | ||
| But Tony figured out a way to hold on and survive. | ||
| But he didn't look like he was missing a beat to me. | ||
| He looked very in tune. | ||
| I heard something that he didn't spar for this. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| I'm not too sure what he does with the striking. | ||
| I'm never there when he trance with the striking. | ||
| I have no idea, to tell you the truth. | ||
| Oh, you don't stay all camp? | ||
| You just deal with the grapple? | ||
| Somebody knows shit told me that. | ||
| I've heard that, too. | ||
| But when he spars, when we do jujitsu, we definitely spar situationally. | ||
| We do situationally. | ||
| No straight-up striking 16-ounce gloves. | ||
| Man, that is such a debate. | ||
| What a crazy debate that is. | ||
| Matreon does the same thing. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| No sparring. | ||
| He hasn't sparred in six years. | ||
| It might not be a bad idea. | ||
| Robbie Lawler took six years off sparring, too. | ||
| He did, but then he became better when he went to AT&T and started training with... | ||
| Some serious talent down there and drop down to 170. The period of no sparring, I think that was the 85 period when he was at Strikeforce. | ||
| Well, Chad Mendes took a while off, too, because obviously he got busted, but then he took time off, and then he's looking freaking pretty gnarly. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| Having Dale Earnhardt Jr. on the other day and talking to him about the brain injuries that he sustained from driving his car and crashing. | ||
| I haven't heard it. | ||
| Yeah, horrible. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| He couldn't walk across the room. | ||
| He had to hold on to tables and shit as he was walking. | ||
| How many did he say he's had? | ||
| Concussion? | ||
| Does he know? | ||
| Wasn't it something insane like 12 over a period of four years? | ||
| Holy shit, that's a lot. | ||
| I want to say it was something like 12 concussions over a period of four years. | ||
| How is he now? | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Super nice guy. | ||
| Very, very genuine guy. | ||
| He said that the links popping up says at least 20. Fuck! | ||
| 20 concussions, man. | ||
| That's more than some fighters. | ||
| Goddammit, that's crazy. | ||
| That is so crazy, but... | ||
| He's had a lot of serious problems that he had worked through, but he found a good doctor that has this good cognitive therapy. | ||
| Oh really? | ||
| So he's had some kind of side effects from it? | ||
| He had a bunch of side effects, but they cleared him up through these exercises. | ||
| Really interesting stuff. | ||
| I made the analogy that it's like, is it like exercising your mind? | ||
| It's just like exercising your body. | ||
| There's things you can do that make things grow and make things stronger. | ||
| Keep the neurons firing. | ||
| Yeah, and make things stronger. | ||
| I heard CBD oil and fish oil. | ||
| The experts that I know who are in that field with the brain always tell me tons of fish oil and CBD oil. | ||
| Krill oil, too. | ||
| That stuff's real good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stuff, anything that reduces inflammation. | ||
| Damn, Dale Earnhardt. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That some of them decide, you know, Cowboy was doing that for a while and probably still is. | ||
| I don't know what he's doing now. | ||
| I didn't talk to him about this camp. | ||
| Not sparring heavy? | ||
| He wasn't sparring at all. | ||
| He was just hitting pads. | ||
| Just hitting pads. | ||
| It's not a bad idea. | ||
| It ain't the worst idea, man. | ||
| Boxers make to differ. | ||
| You talk to any of those boxers, and they're like, no. | ||
| I think it was Lomachenko and Wild ago, we like to get 12 rounds in hard right before the fight. | ||
| Like two weeks, three weeks out, and then we cut it off. | ||
| Like three weeks out, just see where we're at, and then cut it off. | ||
| I think the thing about boxing, though, is your hands are wrapped up. | ||
| You know, your gloves are on. | ||
| You've got 16-ounce training gloves, maybe even 20 if you're a beast, right? | ||
| You've got big-ass puffy gloves. | ||
| 16's usually. | ||
| God, man. | ||
| You've got big-ass puffy gloves, and there's no kicking. | ||
| The thing about, like, kicking, it's like... | ||
| Dude, see, I feel like boxing's more... | ||
|
unidentified
|
You can't pull that back. | |
| See, I feel like boxing's more dangerous. | ||
| It is, in a way. | ||
| Because all they're doing is head-hunting, and it's just head. | ||
| Right, but you're not... | ||
| Especially at that level. | ||
| But you're not getting kicked, right? | ||
| I know, but in high-level gyms like Black House or ATT, AK, people, they're not really going to throw those kicks as hard as they can. | ||
| Man, I don't know about all that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Unless you have a fucking old-school shoot box in the 90s or some shit. | |
| There's a lot of guys that are still going after it like that. | ||
| There's a lot of guys that will still talk to you about the benefits of going after it like that. | ||
| Verdum, yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Verdum, Black House. | |
| Fucking Farah Sahabi was saying he gets guys to try to kill George St. Pierre. | ||
| He'd give them extra money if they could knock him out. | ||
| Just because he's so good, no one's doing shit. | ||
| He's so good, they're not doing it to him, but he wants him in danger. | ||
| Feras wants George in danger, in legitimate danger. | ||
| So in his mind is, you put George in legitimate danger all the time in the gym, and he figures out a way to get through that, and he gets comfortable with that. | ||
| So when it comes to the fight, it's the same thing. | ||
| But that's easy to say if you have George St. Pierre. | ||
| And I love Faraz, but when you have George St. Pierre, who's the smartest dude to ever... | ||
| One of the smartest guys to ever fight, and he's so technical, whoever you're going to bring in there, you're not going to hit George. | ||
| So let me ask you this. | ||
| He's so technical. | ||
| Maybe there's benefit not when you're early going, when you're learning technique more, and you're really learning timing and pacing. | ||
| Maybe then is when you should... | ||
| Spar like way more technical, but then when you get older and you're better, like maybe you need the fear of an actual fight, and then you can just slide right into the fight. | ||
| That's smart, because your head movement's better, you're smarter. | ||
| You can protect yourself more, but the danger is still 100% real. | ||
| And you're aware of all the danger, too. | ||
| So that way when you're in a fight, it feels exactly like you're training. | ||
| It's not a bad idea. | ||
| But you're already there. | ||
| You're already at a high level of proficiency. | ||
| You already have the tools. | ||
| Dude, I really think that there's a real issue with fighters, and this is impossible to tell after it's over, right? | ||
| After the career's over. | ||
| Like, why'd they do it this way? | ||
| What if they had done it that way? | ||
| Maybe it would have worked better. | ||
| Well, you know Chuck Liddell, he's not with Hackleman for this T.R.T.'s fight. | ||
| He just thought that was an old-school type of training, so he decided to go somewhere else. | ||
| He's training with Einstein. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| Well, listen, I'm a big fan of Einstein as a jiu-jitsu coach. | ||
| I don't know Einstein. | ||
| Oh, he's a jiu-jitsu guy? | ||
| I don't know Einstein. | ||
| And a strength and conditioning coach, too. | ||
| Yeah, he knows a lot about slow movement, slow movement lifting. | ||
| What does he call it? | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't know what the style is, but it's super slow. | |
| That's what it is, right? | ||
| He's working with Antonio McKee. | ||
| Was he working with him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I've known that dude forever. | ||
| How long have we known that dude? | ||
| He was in King of the Cage when I used to commentate back in 2000. He's a damn good fighter for a long time, right? | ||
| His son is awesome. | ||
| Antonio McKee's son. | ||
| Antonio McKee, yeah. | ||
| Is he in Bellator? | ||
| I was talking about Einstein. | ||
| Oh, my bad. | ||
| But no. | ||
| But both of them. | ||
| Chuck is training with Antonio McKee as well. | ||
| What's their gym called? | ||
| Power Garage or some shit like that? | ||
| Not sure. | ||
| I forget, but that's where Chuck's at. | ||
| Because what I heard on the street, and obviously I fucking love John Hackleman, shout out John Hackleman, but it was such an old school way of training. | ||
| He's like, dude, the game's advanced so fast, I need to go somewhere. | ||
| And I saw that he goes down to Jay Glazer's place too, right? | ||
| The Unbreakable? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if they're in business together. | ||
| He's been there forever. | ||
| He's been one of the starters. | ||
| What a dope place Jay Glazer put together. | ||
| Yeah, it's sick. | ||
| How badass is that? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Have you been there? | ||
| Is that Chuck? | ||
| No, man. | ||
| I've never been, but I've seen all these videos online. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| I'm like, this place is crazy. | ||
| Snoop Dogg's in there. | ||
| Wiz Khalifa's sparring somebody. | ||
| P. Diddy was in there. | ||
| Ben Saunders tried to do. | ||
| You know, Snoop Dogg sparred with Daniel Serafian. | ||
| Snoop Dogg was... | ||
| Seraphian wasn't hitting him. | ||
| He wasn't touching him. | ||
| But look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Snoop is in there, and Seraphian's just kind of using head movement and kind of touching him a little bit. | ||
| But you know how fucking goddamn terrifying that must be? | ||
| They just have gloves on in front of Seraphian. | ||
| Do you think Snoop knows? | ||
| Is he aware? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| He's gotta be aware. | ||
| Someone probably told him and was like, hey man, you know what that guy's done? | ||
| That guy might not be, you know, the best in the world. | ||
| He might not be the best in the world, but he's a fucking monster. | ||
| Dude, compared to Snoop. | ||
| He is built like a brick shithouse. | ||
| Snoop's leg. | ||
| He's so strong, too. | ||
| Black Twizzler. | ||
| And he cuts a shitload of weight, too. | ||
| That guy's a gigantic... | ||
| What weight does Serafian fight? | ||
| I want to say he fights at 85, but he's super jacked. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He's a thicky, dangerous dude. | |
| Just a real dangerous dude. | ||
| So to see him in there sparring with Snoop Dogg, I wonder if Snoop Dogg understands that this is like pawing at a giant pit bull or something. | ||
| You know, I wonder... | ||
| I don't think you know to what level. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's got balls. | ||
| Snoop Dogg's got real balls. | ||
| To not just do that, but to do that and make a video of it. | ||
| True. | ||
| And didn't look like an asshole. | ||
| No, didn't look like an asshole. | ||
| For a guy that's not a long-time combat sport notable athlete. | ||
| He's not like some guy we've known about. | ||
| There's some guys like Mario Lopez. | ||
| If you saw Mario Lopez boxing with somebody, you'd go, yeah, that guy can box. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| He has smokers. | ||
| Everybody knows Mario Lopez can box. | ||
| Has he had smokers? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He has a smoker against a friend of mine. | ||
| I think Frank Carillo would fuck him up. | ||
| Oh, how dare you? | ||
| I know. | ||
| He'd punch A.C. Slater in the fucking face. | ||
| I don't think so, man. | ||
| Lopez can fight. | ||
| I've trained with Frank, man. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| I mean, he looks tough, but Lopez can fight. | ||
| I think he knows how to box. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You think? | |
| Yeah, I think he really knows how to box. | ||
| He's been in Wildcard West forever. | ||
| The way he carries himself. | ||
| This is one of the reasons why I think he really knows how to box. | ||
| Because he's not really arrogant? | ||
| Not really arrogant, but he knows how to fight. | ||
| He's a nice guy, too. | ||
| He's nice to think of him. | ||
| You remember our buddy? | ||
| He was a porn star. | ||
| He was the one who fought Mario Lopez. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Goddammit, Derek? | ||
| Am I out in his real name? | ||
| Oh, dude, give us the porno name. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, oh, oh, oh. | |
| Black guy? | ||
| Derek Diamond. | ||
| Derek Diamond. | ||
| Yeah, it's not Derek. | ||
| Oh, yeah, Derek Diamond. | ||
| You don't want to give his real name? | ||
| Tyler Knight. | ||
| Tyler Knight, yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's his porno name? | ||
| Tyler Knight's his porno name. | ||
| What a great... | ||
| And he's also an author. | ||
| And he runs like crazy marathons and shit now too, doesn't he? | ||
| Is he still dicking girls down or is he just older? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| So anyway, he had an amateur fight. | ||
| He used to go to 10th Planet. | ||
| Really nice guy. | ||
| And he had an amateur fight with Mario Lopez. | ||
| He had one of them smokers. | ||
| Back in the day, Mario dropped him, I think. | ||
| A.C. Slater fucked him up. | ||
| I think Mario either stopped him or he won a decision. | ||
| But Tyler dropped him. | ||
| Tyler dropped Mario. | ||
| So it was a real fight. | ||
| So that to me... | ||
| Because Tyler was jacked. | ||
| He was super powerful back then. | ||
| And I think that if he can come back from getting dropped and still win... | ||
| Mario knows his shit too when it comes to boxing. | ||
| I've done a podcast just about boxing. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| He's a fan. | ||
| I'd like to see him do something. | ||
| I've never seen him actually box somebody. | ||
| No, me neither. | ||
| Isn't he like 45? | ||
| Yeah, I think he is. | ||
| Younger than everybody in here. | ||
| Yeah, he looks beautiful. | ||
| I don't know what he's doing, but it's working. | ||
| How old are you? | ||
| 35. He looks younger than you? | ||
| Dude, Mario Lopez doesn't have a wrinkle on his pretty face, dude. | ||
| A.C. Slater hasn't aged. | ||
| Whatever moisturizer he's got, I want. | ||
| Bring it. | ||
| Bring it. | ||
| Dude, I haven't watched one second of this fight. | ||
| I haven't either, man. | ||
| I think several fights. | ||
| Well, not theirs. | ||
| He looks like... | ||
| Use Theo's quote. | ||
| Looks like he got stung by all the bees in the cheeks there. | ||
| Super nice guy, too. | ||
| Really, really nice. | ||
| Real professional, too. | ||
| Hosting, he's a beast. | ||
| Who's blowing up faster than Theo Vaughn? | ||
| Theo Vaughn's killer. | ||
| He's out there killing it. | ||
| He's a funny guy, man. | ||
| He's a really funny guy. | ||
| That whole Rat King strap thing that he's got going with the podcast, it's hysterical. | ||
| He's so funny. | ||
| He brings that belt to all his shows, you know? | ||
| Takes pictures with fans. | ||
| Got the strap. | ||
| He's so funny, man. | ||
| He came in as a wrestler when we had rap porn on. | ||
| He came in as a macho man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He's crazy, dude. | |
| He's so funny. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| And he's such a good guy. | ||
| A really good guy. | ||
| I'm always super happy to see Theo Vaughn. | ||
| Dude, when we did that show in Phoenix with Ari, Big J, Brian, Theo. | ||
| I mean, Theo freaking destroyed. | ||
| It was so much fun. | ||
| He always destroys. | ||
| Every time I see him, he destroys. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| He's not just funny, right? | ||
| He's funny and you don't know anybody like him. | ||
| You've never heard it. | ||
| He's so unique. | ||
| His upbringing from New Orleans and being in therapy since he was like seven, he's such a unique dude. | ||
| He's really, really unique. | ||
| I'll tell you who else I've never really hung out was Big J. Big J's awesome. | ||
| Big J's awesome. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| And hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, he's a great guy. | ||
| All those Legion of Skanks guys. | ||
| Those guys are the best. | ||
| I don't know any of them. | ||
| They're nice guys. | ||
| I just know... | ||
| Well, I know Big J now. | ||
| Do you know Louis? | ||
| I don't know him at all. | ||
| Louis is great. | ||
| There's a... | ||
|
unidentified
|
There's a... | |
| They're just... | ||
| Dave Smith, who's... | ||
| I've had on my podcast a gang at times... | ||
| If you ever wanted someone that could understand politics and actually be funny, he's really good at that. | ||
| Yeah, he's a libertarian. | ||
| He's one of those guys. | ||
| Which usually means a white guy with a gun. | ||
| And no disrespect, the only time I ever listened to their show was when it was about the... | ||
| Because I think they had one of the dudes on the show when Amy Schumer robbed the stage. | ||
| Remember that in New York? | ||
| I listened to that because Big J was kind of giving me the benefit of the doubt, but then the rest of them were just roasting her. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was Ari on that one as well? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He goes super hard in the paint. | ||
| He does go hard in the paint. | ||
| Ari's great, man. | ||
| Ari's not there to play games. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| He didn't give a fuck. | ||
| Ari's an animal, dude. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| That motherfucker went from not working out at all to doing this Sober October fitness challenge and getting... | ||
| You know, like, hundreds of points more than Tom Segura and Burt Kreischer. | ||
| Guys who work out all the time. | ||
| Do Tom and Burt work out all the time? | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I mean, Burt obviously looks good. | ||
| I mean, Tom looks good. | ||
| But from where they're from, but they're not, like, in shape. | ||
| I love both of them. | ||
| But, bro, it's all in where they're starting from. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's starting from a place where they were both really overweight and they talked themselves into this weight loss challenge. | ||
| They lost all the weight. | ||
| Tom kept it off. | ||
| Tom looks amazing. | ||
| Tom looks amazing. | ||
| Bert looks good too. | ||
| I don't want Bert skinny. | ||
| He's been fluctuating a little bit. | ||
| I don't want him skinny. | ||
| I want him skinny, man. | ||
| I want him healthy. | ||
| Is this the new Rocky movie commercial? | ||
| Is that what this is? | ||
| Yeah, Apollo. | ||
| The kids are going to go on forever. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Did Michael B. Jordan do all the steroids? | ||
| He's jacked. | ||
| He's super jacked. | ||
| He's creepy jacked. | ||
| He's like super athlete jacked. | ||
| He's so good at being a bad guy, too. | ||
| He was great in that Black Panther movie as a bad guy. | ||
| When I see Michael B. Jordan's name, when I see Michael B. Jordan's name, I was thinking of Chris Delia's tweet that goes, the B in Michael B. Jordan stands for basketball. | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| Michael Pascal. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whenever I see it, it's stuck with me. | |
| So stupid. | ||
| Dude, DeLee is so silly. | ||
| He's like one of the silliest guys ever. | ||
| He makes me laugh so hard, man. | ||
| He's funny, man. | ||
| He's not just funny. | ||
| He's so silly. | ||
| Like that kind of shit. | ||
| The beast ends for basketball. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Dude, just out of nowhere. | |
| It's so stupid. | ||
| That's so silly. | ||
| And it's great. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| But he does that all the time. | ||
| Like, his Instagram feed is all just him being silly. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| It's like he's bored all day until he gets on stage, and he just does silly shit on social media. | ||
| He's a coffee shop, just making fun of people, walk into the coffee shop. | ||
| It's a funny comic, too, man. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Khalil makes me laugh harder than anyone, man. | ||
| He's a funny guy. | ||
| He's fucking hilarious. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| I love him on stage, but I think I like him as much when he does his silly internet shit. | ||
| Me, too. | ||
| Like, when... | ||
| Do you see his... | ||
| His... | ||
| I don't know why he keeps going out. | ||
| He goes out to everybody, man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He doesn't give a fuck. | |
| Did you see when he was imitating rapping like Eminem? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| And I told him, can I see that? | ||
| Let's see that. | ||
| Me and him love WorldStarHipHop, and I made it on there, and then he made it on there. | ||
| So I sent him the link, I went, bro, you've made it. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He's on WorldStarHipHop. | ||
| You got WorldStar'd. | ||
| Yeah, you got WorldStar'd because he's on there for something. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| For this. | ||
| You hear this? | ||
| He's just making it a physical. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Getting an abortion and a divorce at the same time to hear a supporter. | |
| Look what I'm planning. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'm planning to do all this while you're panicking. | |
| And you're looking and staring at mannequins. | ||
|
unidentified
|
And I'm going to Fannikin's trying to get up with Blannikins. | |
| All of the Blannikins, Fannikins, Fannikins. | ||
| Fannikins, Fannikin, Anna in a cabana. | ||
| That's so stupid. | ||
| I'm in a cabana in a chana. | ||
| I'm in a cabana chanting all the stand-up banner. | ||
| Well, you don't got the stamina, you're lacking the stamina. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You're lacking the stamina while you're divorced from Harrison Ford and I'm in a portion of flowing porn. | |
| Do you see the edit they did, Jamie? | ||
| On Eminem's actual body with the video? | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Only he can pull that off, man. | ||
| He's so silly. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good example, like we were talking about Theo, of a guy who's got his own uniquely ridiculous kind of comedy for some strange reason. | ||
| And when you talk to Delia or you talk to any of his friends who have known him forever, they're like, no, all he's wanted to do since he was a kid is make people laugh. | ||
| This is literally what he's meant to do. | ||
| Like, it's just a hilarious silly dude. | ||
| Remember, he got huge on Vine before it went away. | ||
| I mean, you're talking, he's one of the main stars on Vine, man, for doing this type of stuff. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| He does that kind of shit all day. | ||
| His Instagram's great. | ||
| Oh, if I could post the text that he sends me, I mean, he would get millions and millions. | ||
| They're so funny, man. | ||
| Like, when he comes off tour and has all this money. | ||
| He goes, dude, something's wrong with my microwave. | ||
| And then hits the button, just all this cash falls out of my microwave. | ||
| And he's like, I don't know, man. | ||
| Because I don't know what to do. | ||
| We always send each other pictures of our check for whatever reason. | ||
| Just talking shit. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| He's a funny dude. | ||
|
unidentified
|
How fun is it having friends that are comedians? | |
| The best. | ||
| The most fun to hang with, man. | ||
| The best. | ||
| Everybody's always being silly. | ||
| Everybody's always putting you in your place. | ||
| Everybody's always calling you out of your bullshit. | ||
| You're like, oh no. | ||
| I love Chris because he dresses like a fuckboy too. | ||
| So if I wear this jacket to the comedy store, everyone make fun of me. | ||
| But Chris at least be like, come on. | ||
| He'll stick up for me. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Fresh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you guys could talk about different clothing manufacturers. | ||
| Do you know any, Eddie, do you know any clothing designers? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Uh, bonjour. | |
| Remember those jeans? | ||
| I know what Versace means. | ||
| You don't remember bonjour jeans? | ||
| No, bro. | ||
| What about Sergio Valente? | ||
| Listen, this is all old stuff. | ||
| It's old school, dude. | ||
| But what I'm saying is this motherfucker could probably rattle off a gang of labels. | ||
| A few labels. | ||
| Is that still good? | ||
| Yeah, Gucci's still good. | ||
| Off-White's the biggest brand in the world. | ||
| Off-white? | ||
| Off-white right now. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| You are a materialist woman's dream. | ||
| Dolce Gabbana. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| A materialist woman's dream. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| You're a big old gorilla of a guy. | ||
| You got big dick energy. | ||
| Fat dick. | ||
| You're right about that. | ||
| You're a manly man, but yet you're into fashion. | ||
| And don't suck dick with this jacket on. | ||
| You don't even want a leopard skin jacket on. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| But the point is that you really do enjoy it, and you're not shy about it. | ||
| No. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| This is what I like. | ||
| Give me a name of an obscure designer that you really love his work. | ||
| They really love his work. | ||
| Mark Mason. | ||
| See, I think this motherfucker follows, like, women's dresses and shit, too. | ||
| Yeah, I like it all, man. | ||
| Like, I'll tell my girl what to wear, or, like, shoes, or, like, I saw Aubrey and Whitney had on it, and Aubrey had this, or I'm sorry, Box and Burn, and Whitney had this Gucci purse. | ||
| I knew what it was. | ||
| I was like, that purse is sick. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, no! | |
| And Tony's like, what the fuck, mate? | ||
| I'm like, dude, you just don't know what it is. | ||
| Well, listen, I don't know why. | ||
| Why did style and aesthetics, why did that become a homosexual activity only? | ||
| Or a female? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| This is why. | ||
| Because it is fucking shit. | ||
| Because sometimes people want to staple a regular shirt on the outside of a t-shirt, pretend it's not retarded. | ||
| That's not fashion. | ||
| How many times have you seen Zoolain? | ||
| A bunch. | ||
| More than ten? | ||
| No. | ||
| Zoolander? | ||
| Zoolander. | ||
| I never saw it, but I've seen clips. | ||
| You've never seen Zoolander? | ||
| I heard the second one's a bummer. | ||
| No. | ||
| You gotta see Zoolander with Brendan. | ||
| You guys gotta see that shit together. | ||
| You gotta see that shit together. | ||
| And smoke weed? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Dude, I was watching a clip the other day from Tropic Thunder. | ||
| Oh my god, classic. | ||
| The greatest movie ever. | ||
| It's up there. | ||
| There's two things you can't do ever again after Tropic Thunder. | ||
| You can't be a white guy wearing blackface And you can't say retard. | ||
| Simple Jack is done. | ||
| You couldn't do Simple Jack again. | ||
| Yeah, but remember, you never go full retard. | ||
| I mean, that was one of the big lines in the movie. | ||
| You literally cannot do that today. | ||
| You can't make fun of playing a person. | ||
| There's been like four people that have done blackface since this. | ||
| I mean, a dude from Saturday Night Live. | ||
| There's a list of them. | ||
| No, seriously. | ||
| A major motion picture though? | ||
| Not a major motion picture, but Saturday Night Live. | ||
| Okay, listen, even if I'm wrong, like exactly, maybe someone did it afterwards, and culturally, like that is the last big moment. | ||
| You might be right that other people have done it since then. | ||
| Let's find out when was the last time someone wore a blackface in a movie. | ||
| I bet there's an actual number. | ||
| Dave Chappelle does whiteface all the time. | ||
| That doesn't count. | ||
| And Mexican face. | ||
| No, that was years ago. | ||
| You're talking about on the Chappelle show? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was fucking ten years ago. | ||
| But it also doesn't count. | ||
| Whiteface is not the same as blackface. | ||
| Blackface existed back in the Al Jolson days. | ||
| You ever see that shit? | ||
| You ever see like when the minstrel, they put white gloves on. | ||
| Black dudes, yeah. | ||
| You ever watch it? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You're like, what is this? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| God, Doug. | ||
| That is so racist. | ||
| They have to have white lips. | ||
| Does that make it official? | ||
| Without the white lips, he looks just like a regular black guy. | ||
| They just made his lips look bigger. | ||
| I mean, that's the whole idea. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's what the white does? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, they're trying to make him have exaggerated looking lips, because in contrast to the black, it looks like lips. | ||
| Just like when a girl puts lipstick and she outlines it outside of her lips, makes her lips look bigger. | ||
| That's exactly what these people are doing. | ||
| So this is what they did, and they wouldn't let black people in the movies. | ||
| Black people couldn't be like the star of a movie. | ||
| They had to be a white guy playing a black guy in blackface. | ||
| Did you see Sean White dressed up as Simple Jack and got roasted for it? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Sean White? | ||
| Olympic snowboarder? | ||
| Monster? | ||
| Gold medalist? | ||
| X Games? | ||
| Flying Tomato? | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| These days, you can't talk about shit no more. | ||
| But the gender thing. | ||
| Isn't there like 60-some genders? | ||
| There's supposed to be a bunch of different gendered pronouns. | ||
| Like 60, right? | ||
| Yeah, but they're not saying there's 60 genders. | ||
| But what they are saying is they should have the right to dictate what pronoun that you use. | ||
| Instead of him or her, they want like zur or z. | ||
| They make up a bunch of these wacky. | ||
| But how many are there really? | ||
| There's man, woman. | ||
| Dude born is man, but woman inside. | ||
| Woman born woman, but man inside. | ||
| And then the fifth one might be man who feels like he's man and woman. | ||
| And maybe there's six or seven. | ||
| How many... | ||
| How many are there total? | ||
| They don't associate with that though. | ||
| Some of them say they don't associate with that. | ||
| And then there's asexual, that's seven. | ||
| Like one guy who doesn't think he's a guy or a girl. | ||
| But isn't pan you just love to fuck? | ||
| Pansexual? | ||
| Pan you just fuck whatever. | ||
| It's all good. | ||
| Pansexual. | ||
| Is there like Monday through Friday, I'm a fucking dude. | ||
| Saturday, Saturday night, I'm a fucking chick. | ||
| Yes, gender fluid. | ||
| Yeah, they go back and forth. | ||
| I don't know why we give a fuck. | ||
| Dude, there was a whole Radio Lab podcast. | ||
| On the weekends? | ||
| Do what the fuck you want. | ||
| There was a whole Radio Lab podcast about it. | ||
| And I was laughing my ass off when I was listening to it because there's parts of it that are so preposterous because there was a guy who would just decide while he's talking that he's a girl. | ||
| And because this is like a super progressive show, because Radio Lab is this like really well-made, really high-level... | ||
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| Fucking super well edited. | ||
| They literally can't say this guy might have some problems with his perceptions of reality. | ||
| This might not just be a gender thing, or maybe it is a gender thing. | ||
| Or split personalities. | ||
| Right, but you have to have both options on the table. | ||
| Like, this guy might be fucking crazy. | ||
| And if the guy was a man, then you'd just go, oh, I just flipped. | ||
| I just flipped. | ||
| I'm the woman now. | ||
| He needs medication, probably. | ||
| And then he goes back, he's the man again. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I would do that. | ||
| But when it comes to gender, here's the thing. | ||
| Does he get mad? | ||
| You can't have these thoughts. | ||
| You can't question. | ||
| Because I don't know. | ||
| I'm not him. | ||
| Maybe that's a thing. | ||
| Maybe you do just flip back and forth from feeling like you're a guy or feeling like you're a girl. | ||
| Or maybe that's crazy. | ||
| That's possible too. | ||
| It might be fucking crazy. | ||
| It might be some kind of delusion that's involved. | ||
| Mental sickness again, maybe. | ||
| But the thing is, if he wants to do that, I don't give a flying shit. | ||
| But don't get mad at me if I don't call him or her at the right time. | ||
| I don't know if he did get mad or she got mad, depending on who she was or he was that day. | ||
| What percentage... | ||
| Is there a high rate of suicide for dudes that chop their dicks off? | ||
| Transgender? | ||
| 50%? | ||
| I think whether or not they go through the operation, there's still a very high rate of suicide. | ||
| Yeah, transgender is 50%. | ||
| But you would think, though, you cut off your dick... | ||
| You should be on suicide watch, right? | ||
| I mean, that's huge. | ||
| It's huge, and I don't think it's a fact that they regret cutting their dicks off, but the hormones. | ||
| I think that's what fucks with their brains. | ||
| Because then you're messing with the biological system of your body, right? | ||
| The chemistry, all that. | ||
| Hormones, nightmare. | ||
| If you're a man, but you feel like a woman inside, I'd say just keep your dick. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You chop it off, you're going to lose all those orgasms. | ||
| Might as well have orgasms. | ||
| Some do. | ||
| You can't have orgasms if you chop your dick off. | ||
| Some do. | ||
| You go on YouPort and see some chicks with tits with fat dicks. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Like fat ass dicks. | ||
| They keep their dicks. | ||
| They keep them because that's their pleasure path. | ||
| Keep them. | ||
| Keep them. | ||
| You're gonna get rid of your orgasm? | ||
| Unless you're born with like a deformed dick. | ||
| Oh my god, dude, we're missing the craziest girl TKO of all time. | ||
| This girl is getting smashed. | ||
| Barber. | ||
| Doing some cut. | ||
| That's fake blood. | ||
| Dropping some horrific bombs down. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| These girls are... | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Big elbow. | ||
| This referee is... | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Ref, get in there, bro. | ||
| Let's over, kid. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| She got blasted. | ||
| Damn, that referee let her take some shots. | ||
| Hey, it's a fight game. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's what you're getting paid for. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| That was wild. | ||
| She got blood and a powerful on it shirt. | ||
| Powerful on it. | ||
| Nice, man. | ||
| Shout out in the audience. | ||
| Shout out. | ||
| Oh, I see Birdman back there, too. | ||
| What were we just saying? | ||
| Remember Birdman? | ||
| What were we just saying? | ||
| We're talking about chicks with dicks. | ||
| Don't cut it off. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Keep it. | |
| It's fun. | ||
| Mix it up. | ||
| There's plenty of dudes who will suck it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Probably, yeah. | ||
| That's probably a big number. | ||
| Go to Germany. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Germany? | |
| You go to Germany, West Hollywood up the street. | ||
| But the question is, like, do they get suicidal because they're not accepted early in life? | ||
| That's the real question because this is what a lot of the thought is, is that they develop their self-esteem when they're very young. | ||
| And if they're very young and they're a boy and they wish they were a girl and then they get picked on for that or they get fucked with for that. | ||
| That becomes like this very awful connection with this terrible memory and this terrible feeling that you feel around people who hate you just because you're different. | ||
| And then who you are as an adult. | ||
| And then who knows what else comes into play there, right? | ||
| Um, you know alcohol and drugs. | ||
| But also hate crimes on transgenders through the fucking roof, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like even Kristen Beck, who's a former Navy SEAL, and now she, you know, she's a woman, she takes hormones, but I don't think, she doesn't chop her dick off. | ||
| We're talking about a Navy SEAL who killed a ton of fucking people. | ||
| She was saying she was walking down the street and some guys came up behind her and hit her over the head with a bottle just for being transgender. | ||
| Knocked her out on the street. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Fucking terrible, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| There's just a lot of people that are developed in a really fucked up way. | ||
| They've just seen too many awful things. | ||
| Bad childhood and drugs. | ||
| Think about all the people in this country right now that are growing up in horrible neighborhoods. | ||
| And what's going to happen out of them? | ||
| What's going to happen to these people? | ||
| When you read these stories about Chicago and parts of the South Side of Chicago where they're just shootings like a hundred in a weekend, that kind of crazy shit. | ||
| You lived in a place like that like someone was there was a comic who said something I Apologize I forgot who it was who said something like this on Twitter about how you get He's a black comic too. | ||
| He was saying that PTSD is not just for soldiers like you get it when you grow up in the hood You see a lot of shit that you shouldn't you shouldn't see you're around a lot of violence Around a lot of crime. | ||
| You're going to grow up with a different perspective of the world. | ||
| Yeah, and you could grow up a little fucking shell-shocked. | ||
| I mean, that's a crazy way to develop, you know? | ||
| Super crazy. | ||
| Well, thank God for all these pills that you could take. | ||
| I don't know if those are the answer, are they? | ||
| Aren't they? | ||
| But are they the answer for some people sometimes? | ||
| I think, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, some, yeah. | ||
| I think some people are hanging on by a thread. | ||
| They're hanging on by a thread, and someone comes along, and they offer them a chemical escape. | ||
| From just the fucking sheer misery of being alive, and then it puts them in a place where they can think about things. | ||
| Does it? | ||
| Where they can think about it? | ||
| Because when you hear like Neil Brennan, one of the fucking most brilliant comedian minds out there, right? | ||
| Wrote for a Chappelle show, brilliant comic, has a special on Netflix, three mics. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| And he talks about how... | ||
| When he takes those pills, the prescriptions, he doesn't get high, doesn't get low. | ||
| It's just he's going through it. | ||
| You talked about his accomplishments. | ||
| He's like, yeah, it does nothing. | ||
| I don't feel anything. | ||
| They don't feel anything. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| It's a weird way to go. | ||
| Well, you know, depression, again, like what we were talking about earlier, it's on a spectrum. | ||
| Just like mental illness, just like all kinds of other different things that occur in people. | ||
| Yeah, because everyone deals with depression. | ||
| Like, we've all been depressed in it, but some people it sticks. | ||
| Like, you can't get out of it. | ||
| How about an anti-conspiracy theory pill? | ||
| You could take a blue pill. | ||
| Like, on the weekends, you don't want to think about false flags or nothing. | ||
| You just go out and just have fun and... | ||
| Dude, Ari Shafir used, this is why I have this opinion on this, Ari Shafir used antidepressants correctly, and he had to try a couple different kinds and figure out which one really worked for him, but once he did, it helped him. | ||
| I saw it helped. | ||
| And he's a happy guy. | ||
| He turned his life around. | ||
| He got on the antidepressants, and he talks about this openly. | ||
| He got successful too, though, right? | ||
| He got successful as well. | ||
| Is he still on them? | ||
| But who knows what came first, the chicken or the egg? | ||
| No, he weaned himself off of them. | ||
| But he got on them, and they helped him. | ||
| Why did he have to wean himself off if they helped? | ||
| Because he didn't think that he needed them anymore. | ||
| He thought that he was leaning on them as a crutch and he would kind of reset his mind. | ||
| And change your way of thinking. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| And he and I talked about it. | ||
| I'm trying to remember exactly how he put it. | ||
| But essentially it was what he was saying. | ||
| I got another one of these Olympias. | ||
| That Olympia. | ||
| Yeah, that tasty-ass Olympia. | ||
| Shit's delicious. | ||
| There's something about beer in a can. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| My mouth was watering. | ||
| Like a crackhead. | ||
| Yeah, beer in a can. | ||
| Yeah, but with Ari, it's like success will make you happy. | ||
| Like, yeah, fuck, I'm killing it, man. | ||
| Ari's killing it. | ||
| He's killing it. | ||
| And I'm sure that had something to do with it. | ||
| But I think that can't be discounted. | ||
| I think there's a lot of things going on. | ||
| Depression is like a lot of other things. | ||
| It's hard to narrow things down, plus or minus, and thinking that it's one thing that's causing you to be happy or one thing that's causing you to be sad. | ||
| It's very likely there's a bunch of different shit going on. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta remind yourself every day of how lucky you are. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's tough to do, man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's fucking tough. | |
| It's almost unrealistic. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| You could do it. | ||
| It's just like working out. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| You could put yourself an hour, hour and a half thinking one way. | ||
| I'm gonna work out. | ||
| I'm gonna fucking focus on getting stronger today. | ||
| Focus on the reps and all the sets and my routine. | ||
| You apply that. | ||
| Just for 15 minutes, just think about all the shit you've accomplished. | ||
| Think about the money you have. | ||
| Think about how lucky you are that you don't live in fucking Liberia or Guatemala or some shit. | ||
| You could be in that caravan right now with a backpack throwing rocks. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And that's the real shit though. | ||
| That's not an illusion. | ||
| The real shit is that you should be thankful. | ||
| The fake shit is not being thankful. | ||
| That's the fake shit. | ||
| That's the illusion. | ||
| It's just not being... | ||
| You're so caught up in your daily life, stuff like that. | ||
| No, but you know what I mean? | ||
| You know how quickly you would appreciate your life if you got framed for murder right now? | ||
| Just right now? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Jesus Christ. | |
| All of a sudden, your life would be a thousand times better. | ||
| I had a little bit of scare with my son, and it was like nothing else mattered. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Once that happened, I was like, dude, take my career, take this purple fucking Porsche, whatever you want, man. | ||
| Just make him... | ||
| I was like, yeah, no. | ||
| You have a purple portrait for real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like, please make sure he's okay. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn, of course. | ||
| Like, if you found out you had five minutes to live... | ||
| All you would think about is your kid. | ||
| That's all you would think about. | ||
| Well, I just got evacuated. | ||
| I got evacuated from my house because of the fires. | ||
| Yeah, you're in the thick of it. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| Especially where you're at, brother. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| They evacuated Thousand Oaks, and they evacuated places in Westlake. | ||
| Malibu. | ||
| Segura's out. | ||
| Apparently this fire that we have here is nothing in comparison to the fire that's in upstate. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's further up. | ||
| The Northern California fire is supposed to be even more severe. | ||
| They were saying the Northern California fire was moving at, what was the number? | ||
| It was something insane, like 80 football fields a minute. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| They labeled it the biggest fire in California ever. | ||
| The biggest fire in California ever. | ||
| Going on right now, Northern California? | ||
| It's in Northern California. | ||
| You know what's crazy is how damaged cars are getting. | ||
| They're like... | ||
| Melting. | ||
| The cars are melting. | ||
| The videos are insane. | ||
| I saw a video of this bus. | ||
| This bus that looked like it was bombed. | ||
| How are fires doing that? | ||
| Do we know how it started? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It's always the worst when it's like some fucking asshole started it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if they know yet. | ||
| Some prick. | ||
| I don't know if they know yet. | ||
| Direct energy weapons. | ||
|
unidentified
|
God. | |
| It happened right outside of Rocketdyne. | ||
| That's where it happened. | ||
| It's like a rocket factory. | ||
| Have you seen those pictures of the cars where their rims are melted? | ||
| How hot do forest fires get? | ||
| They get hot as fuck. | ||
| How is steel melting? | ||
| A lot of aluminum. | ||
| It's a lot of aluminum wheels. | ||
| The frame doesn't melt, which is steel. | ||
| A lot of people have aluminum wheels, right? | ||
| A hundred percent, yeah. | ||
| Regular fire melts aluminum? | ||
| Just a regular fire will melt aluminum? | ||
| You think it's something else, Eddie? | ||
| Your tires are gonna light up. | ||
| You know me, dude. | ||
| You asking me? | ||
| You asking me? | ||
| Do I think it's something else? | ||
| Think about who you're talking to right now. | ||
| Think about who this is. | ||
| You got a couple factors here that I would just take into account not being a fire expert. | ||
| But one of them I think would be tires. | ||
| Tires are super flammable. | ||
| Once your tires catch fire, they're all made out of rubber and all kinds of other plastics and shit like that. | ||
| Tires are flammable? | ||
| They hold the fire there. | ||
| They're not just fucking flammable. | ||
| They go black smoke. | ||
| It's a crazy smoke. | ||
|
unidentified
|
All right. | |
| That's why the cartel use them when they kill people. | ||
| They put them in because it fucking keeps them. | ||
| Don't they douse them with lighter fluid and that kind of shit? | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't know. | |
| The other thing I was going to say is gasoline. | ||
| Cars are fueled by gasoline. | ||
| You got gasoline there. | ||
| You got fire. | ||
| You got insane heat. | ||
| The whole car gets engulfed. | ||
| The gas tank erupts. | ||
| You got fucking... | ||
| Temperatures that are like, it's like basically having an inferno right there. | ||
| It's not like, it's not a fire like, oh, a fucking phone book caught on fire and it melted a wheel. | ||
| No, it's like a giant combustion engine that works on gasoline and has these rubber, super flammable tires and is covered by a plastic paint that's probably super fucking flammable. | ||
| And this shit all gets hit. | ||
| Inside's leather. | ||
| With fire that's coming from 50 mile an hour winds. | ||
| They're fire machines. | ||
| And then what about the registration? | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm just trying to be funny over here. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I thought you were serious. | ||
| Look at these cars. | ||
| These cars got murked. | ||
| This is like what happened when the Hulk met Loki on the Avengers. | ||
| How did the windows get broken? | ||
| They fucking destroyed Eddie. | ||
| The heat makes them shatter. | ||
| They fall apart. | ||
| If you ever get a glass too hot, you ever have a glass get too hot? | ||
| Fuck no. | ||
| If you pour tea in a regular glass, they crack. | ||
| They're not ready for that. | ||
| So that's not even that hot. | ||
| Because the tea makes them expand the heat from the tea. | ||
| You're not buying it, huh, Eddie? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| These fires are weird. | ||
| This is what I would suggest. | ||
| Don't look into it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just don't look into it. | ||
| I don't trust shit. | ||
| You know me. | ||
| Are you affected by the fires that are true? | ||
| If CNN, if the headline says... | ||
| Anything. | ||
| I don't believe it. | ||
| Any CNN. Okay. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| That's true, Eddie. | ||
| That's true, Eddie. | ||
| But here's the beautiful thing about this fire. | ||
| You can fucking see it. | ||
| You don't have to wonder whether or not it's a... | ||
| No, I'm not saying there's no fire. | ||
| I'm just saying like... | ||
| How it started? | ||
| But this is what we're talking about. | ||
| We're talking about this fire. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| No, there's a fire for sure. | ||
| There's a giant fire. | ||
| I see the smoke. | ||
| So what do you think is happening? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's some crazy people out there saying that... | ||
| They're being started by some fucking direct energy weapons. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's what the crazy people are saying. | ||
| Well, fires happen all the time, though. | ||
| It's kind of a natural occurrence. | ||
| What's more likely? | ||
| That fires are happening like they always fucking happen, from electric boxes going out, or wires going down, or people being assholes with cigarettes. | ||
| That's how, before there was Illuminati, before there was anything, there was forest fires. | ||
| They've been around forever. | ||
| This is not like a new occurrence. | ||
| It's not like they're using this secret energy weapon to do some shit that's never been done before. | ||
| How dumb would their super energy weapon if they use it to start fires? | ||
| There's just a lot of weird shit out there, like houses, like you can see, house, house, house, completely leveled, and all the trees around them, nothing wrong with the trees at all. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Just weird shit like that. | ||
| Well, it's probably easier for the fire to make... | ||
| Fucking houses go up in flames because it's all dry old shit. | ||
| It's a dry old wood. | ||
| You got dry old shit on the roof. | ||
| The tiles. | ||
| A lot of times these people have these roofing tiles and the embers get in between there. | ||
| It goes right into the tar. | ||
| It burns it. | ||
| It goes right through your... | ||
| My next door neighbor, his roof was on fire. | ||
| God. | ||
| We don't need no water. | ||
| We don't need no water. | ||
| Done. | ||
| No, they got to it in time. | ||
| The firefighters caught it. | ||
| Actually, my friend Bud caught it, told the firefighters. | ||
| Shout out to Bud. | ||
| Bud Brutzman? | ||
| Bud Brutzman, yeah. | ||
| His house? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It wasn't his house. | ||
| But it was my neighbor's house. | ||
| So when this was all going down, this is happening all throughout, not just here, but all throughout Topanga now, and Malibu, and these embers fall from the sky, and then they, poof, they light everything up in flames, because everywhere you look, everything is dry as fuck. | ||
| It's dry as shit right now. | ||
| We haven't had any rain in a long-ass time. | ||
| If you go running in the trails, it's just dust. | ||
| You're kicking up dust. | ||
| You start coughing. | ||
| And then you got the winds. | ||
| All the grass. | ||
| That spreads all of it. | ||
| Everything's brown and dried out. | ||
| It's science, Eddie. | ||
| And when these embers fall from the sky and hit this shit, it just starts up. | ||
| We're just lucky it doesn't happen more often. | ||
| In fact, though, it happened this time last year around here because we had ash out in the gym area. | ||
| We had to sweep the ash out because it had actually come in through cracks. | ||
| Like little tiny cracks. | ||
| Dude, I've ash all the way in my house from this fire all the way where I'm at. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| It's no joke, dude. | ||
| No, it's some serious shit. | ||
| This fire's massive. | ||
| So, I don't think it's an energy wave. | ||
| But I do think it's fucking super dangerous to live in a climate where there's this much vegetation and not enough moisture. | ||
| Like, how come we can't figure out how to get that fucking water out of the ocean and start spraying it all over the plants? | ||
| There's so much water in the ocean, bro. | ||
| There's so much water, you're not using it at all. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| There's salt in it. | ||
| We can't fuck with it. | ||
| We can't fuck with that salt. | ||
| I feel like they can take the salt out. | ||
| We still can't fuck with the salt. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They have desalination plants. | ||
| They're just super expensive. | ||
| Yeah, it's too expensive. | ||
| We can't afford that. | ||
| They say the almond. | ||
| The almond factor. | ||
| If we had more money, we'd be able to do that. | ||
| But it's too expensive. | ||
| The almond plants want the ocean water? | ||
| No, they use all our water. | ||
| If we got rid of almonds in California, it would be straight. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Imagine if vegans consumed more almonds and then they were... | ||
| They're the reason why? | ||
| Imagine how ironic that would be. | ||
| Those almonds that we're doing us in the whole time. | ||
| It's not cattle raising. | ||
| It's fucking almonds. | ||
| Is there a country rich enough to filter the salt out of water and use the water for their country? | ||
| It's just too expensive, right? | ||
| I bet Dubai could do that shit. | ||
| No, they don't have that much money. | ||
| We do it tomorrow. | ||
| No, it's too expensive. | ||
| You know how hard it is? | ||
| They would roll out a carpet made of gold. | ||
| The dude would slide on a gold surfboard. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Sipping that fucking salt free water switch for the fat. | |
| Like for the Navy, there's like a survivor filter that you could drink the seawater and you could like suck and it's like this filter, this survival thing. | ||
| I don't know about that for seawater. | ||
| I know they have those things for ponds. | ||
| They have these things, they're called SteriPens. | ||
| They just can't figure out that seawater. | ||
| I just can't figure that out. | ||
| What's the high salt content? | ||
| Too expensive. | ||
| You can't have that much salt content in your water. | ||
| It's a shitload of salt. | ||
| It fucks you up, man. | ||
| What if we have a salt water tax? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| We're running out of water. | ||
| We've got to figure out how to take the salt out of the seawater. | ||
| I don't think this is a... | ||
| Eddie, we have plenty of fresh water, though. | ||
| I don't think this is a conspiracy. | ||
| No, you just said, how come they can't just take the fucking ocean water and... | ||
| But I was just being funny. | ||
| I'll tell you why they can't. | ||
| It's fucking super expensive. | ||
| It's too expensive. | ||
| Just transport it. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's too expensive. | ||
| We don't have that kind of money. | ||
| We cost so much money to change the water and to do it all the time for all the people. | ||
| Just pull that water out and then who owns it? | ||
| Maybe if we bring some coke in from Central America and we generate income that way. | ||
| Imagine if we started sucking all the stuff out of the ocean and the ocean started pushing back and the people started building houses in front of the people's houses in Malibu. | ||
| At first they would protest. | ||
| At first they would go, fuck you! | ||
| We have the beach! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not the beach anymore. | ||
| So basically, you just got an acre. | ||
| Someone goes right in front of him. | ||
| A mile to the beach, bitch. | ||
| Just keep sucking water out. | ||
| Yeah, imagine if there's like a mile to the beach now. | ||
| And all these Malibu people, they show up at the fucking county board meetings. | ||
| Stop pulling the water out of the ocean! | ||
| He'd turn around behind him. | ||
| It's a goddamn tropical jungle. | ||
| We got monkeys in LA and fucking parrots and shit. | ||
| I'm not mad at it, man. | ||
| We turn it into the tropics. | ||
| We make it moist and delicious. | ||
| That would happen. | ||
| Darius is a beast. | ||
| I'm going to do a fight real quick. | ||
| Darius is a monster. | ||
| Yeah, he is a beast. | ||
| He's just fallen on hard times a little bit. | ||
| He was ranked fucking high for a while. | ||
| He's a very good fighter. | ||
| Yeah, he's so good at everything, man. | ||
| He's just had some tough matchups. | ||
| He had a tough loss, right, his last fight? | ||
| Yeah, he's fallen on some hard times. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Who stopped him? | |
| He lost Michael Johnson recently, but I forget who his last one was. | ||
| Jamie, can you pull up Benil Darius's... | ||
| He had a tough fight. | ||
| Black belt on the ground, amazing fucking striking. | ||
| I do not know much about this Moises guy. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| Is that how you say his name? | ||
| Moises? | ||
| Oh, Tiago Moises. | ||
| He's from ATT. He fought in EBI, combat jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Oh, no shit. | ||
| How good is he? | ||
| It was hard to tell from one match, but he's a black belt. | ||
| He's from American Top Team, so he's got to be a fucking beast. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| A guillotine right there. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Daesh is a black belt. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He jumped right into a guillotine. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's tight. | ||
| That's a deep one. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Daesh is going to be tough to cement. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That was tight, though. | ||
| He got KO'd by Edson Barboza. | ||
| That's what we're thinking about. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking about. | ||
| He got KO'd by a flying knee, and then Alexander Hernandez, in his last fight, KO'd him with punches. | ||
| But he's beat some good guys like James Vick. | ||
| He knocked out. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Tiago Moises. | ||
| He's going for it. | ||
| He's going for it. | ||
| It's going to be fucking tough to submit him. | ||
| It's going to be, but man, I think Chiesa took his back and strangled him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, I loved Chiesa at 70. Yeah, he did. | ||
| He did, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just at 70, it's going to be trouble for people. | ||
| I think he just was killing himself, making that weight. | ||
| He's too big for 55. Whenever I'm hanging around him, he's a wide fella, sturdy fella. | ||
| Big dude, big frame. | ||
| He's going to be really good at 70. He's going to give guys problems. | ||
| I was doing commentary with Paul Felder, and I'm standing next to Paul Felder, and I'm thinking, how the fuck are you 155 pounds? | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| That is ridiculous. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| You're not 155 pounds. | ||
| He gets mad too. | ||
| People say, you know, this guy over here, he's 200 pounds. | ||
| Hey, I was 192 last Tuesday. | ||
| He'll get upset. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| If you try to gain an extra 8 or 10 pounds on him, he's just a big lightweight. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| He's a powerhouse. | ||
| And think about it. | ||
| That was Mike Perry's last fight, last win. | ||
| Mike Perry kind of outclassed him. | ||
| Well, what happened was he bounced his forearm off of Mike Perry's head early on in the fight. | ||
| He spinned and backfisted him and hit him with this part of the forearm right in the forehead and snapped his arm in half. | ||
| Broke his arm? | ||
| So he's fighting with one arm. | ||
| And he fought like that for three rounds. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| But he couldn't wrestle, okay? | ||
| So he couldn't shoot takedowns or do anything with his right arm. | ||
| He punched him with it a bunch of times, even though it was still broken. | ||
| And he was trying to punch with his leg. | ||
| It was in fucking agony. | ||
| It's not just about power, right? | ||
| It's about knowing that this shit doesn't work anymore, and you're going to try to pretend... | ||
| And you got a guy trying to rip your head off. | ||
| Mike Perry's a monster. | ||
| And Mike Perry's a super strong 170. He's a beast. | ||
| He's super aggressive. | ||
| He comes at you real hard. | ||
| He takes a tremendous shot. | ||
| He's got a fucking iron chin and horrifying knockout power. | ||
| It's a tough matchup for Cowboy. | ||
| The Jay Kellenberger elbow, that elbow he came out of it with, you're like, Jesus. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I know. | |
| He's got real power. | ||
| Another guillotine. | ||
| But Paul Felder was kind of Mike Perry's first win where he's technical and stayed on the outside. | ||
| Hanging on that neck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then before that though, Alan Joban beat him. | ||
| It was super technical. | ||
| Well, I think the move to Jackson's had a giant impact on him. | ||
| Because what I saw in his last fight, I saw him manage distance much better and pace. | ||
| He wasn't just like a marauding psycho going after him. | ||
| Throwing feints. | ||
| He's mixing it up. | ||
| Angles. | ||
| He was not just mixing it up. | ||
| It was like very good footwork as well. | ||
| It was very technical. | ||
| So I think he's adding a lot more technique and strategy to what he already had. | ||
| The power. | ||
| Serious power and serious aggression. | ||
| And he had skills already. | ||
| It's not like he couldn't punch. | ||
| It's not like he couldn't... | ||
| No, but he was kind of one-dimensional a little bit. | ||
| But just so wild, so reckless, and so, so hungry to fuck you up. | ||
| Which will beat a lot of guys to get to a certain level. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| And they can deal with it. | ||
| But kudos to him for recognizing that. | ||
| Oh, brilliant, yeah. | ||
| And then making some adjustments. | ||
| And I think he definitely did make an adjustment in that Felder fight. | ||
| He looked amazing. | ||
| So it was on him, he made the adjustment, and he obviously put in the work and looked great, and it was also on Felder breaking his arm pretty early on in the fight. | ||
| But even before he broke his arm, Perry was getting the better of the exchanges. | ||
| He was more dangerous. | ||
| There was more consequences. | ||
| He's a fucking scary knockout artist. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Stylistic-wise for Cowboy, it's a tough fight, man. | |
| We both think that Cowboy's at his best when he doesn't have to fight guys that are that much bigger than him. | ||
| A real aggressive guy is tough with Cowboy. | ||
| I would rather see him at 155 than see him fight Darren Till again. | ||
| There was something about seeing him with Darren Till where you see how big Darren is at 170. He's fucking big, man. | ||
| He's big. | ||
| He even talked about going to 85. And he's going to 85 now. | ||
| And you look at him with Cowboy. | ||
| He went back on that. | ||
| He changed his mind again? | ||
| Yeah, he's like, I think he would go back to 70. Because he was going to fight Askren at 70. But then they gave Askren Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Well, both fights I love. | ||
| But, you know, that guy's just so, he was so much bigger than Cowboy. | ||
| He was so much bigger. | ||
| Way bigger. | ||
| When you looked at him in there, I mean, he looked like he was two weight classes bigger. | ||
| At least one weight class bigger. | ||
| At least on the upper end of the next weight class. | ||
| Lawler makes sense. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| How does it not make sense? | ||
| You don't think it makes sense? | ||
| No, it doesn't make sense. | ||
| He's going to be hard to take down and he's fucking vicious with his face. | ||
| That's a perfect fight. | ||
| So the night of the fight, I dig it. | ||
| But the thing that makes Ben Askren special too is his mouth, his mind game. | ||
| So Robbie's not going to play that game. | ||
| He doesn't have a dance partner. | ||
| That's what makes it great. | ||
| What is he gonna do? | ||
| This is the fashion lover in you talking? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| This is the Dana White me talking. | ||
| This is the moneymaker me. | ||
| Your boy's the exact same way. | ||
| Let me hear. | ||
| Because if you give Ben Askren, who can talk fucking right up there with the best we got, man. | ||
| If you give him a guy, you name anybody. | ||
| Anyone in the in the fight game, and he goes back and forth, it's gonna be great. | ||
| You can have Colby Cumminton, who's a shit talker. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The fans are gonna be able to gravitate towards that and see the story. | ||
| This is the first fight. | ||
| This is the first fight. | ||
| This is only one fight. | ||
| It's a big fight. | ||
|
unidentified
|
But Robbie Lawler is a great matchup physically. | |
| The shit talking aside, you're right with the shit talking for sure. | ||
| X's and O's, amazing fight night. | ||
| Love the fight. | ||
| The physicality of the fight, is that a word? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I'll tell you. | ||
| Jamie, you got an A, right? | ||
| Physicality? | ||
| That's a word. | ||
| Yeah, it seems right. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That's the perfect... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's not going to be easy for Ben. | ||
| That's going to be a hard fight for Ben. | ||
| Every fight is easy for him. | ||
| He just grabs everybody and fucking manhandles them. | ||
| Except for the Russian guy. | ||
| I'm saying to take full advantage of what Ben Askren brings to the table, Robbie Lawl is not the matchup I would give him off the bat. | ||
| I would have gave him a Darren Till or a Colby Covington, something like that, who will verbally go back and forth with him. | ||
| You've got to build up to that. | ||
| Ben Askren's been in the game too long. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| But the night of the fight? | ||
| Amazing fight. | ||
| I think you just want to see the fight. | ||
| I don't think we should ever make decisions based on shit talking and encouraging shit talking. | ||
| I think what's interesting about Ben Askren is Ben Askren. | ||
| I want to see what the fuck he can do to a real former world champion who's fought at the highest level. | ||
| That's a great matchup. | ||
| I'm with you guys. | ||
| I don't want to hear any nonsense about whether he talks back. | ||
| No one's going to give a shit. | ||
| Look, Ben Askren, when he was at the UFC... That's not the world we live in, Joe. | ||
| Ben Askren, when he was at the UFC, they put a camera on him and the crowd went nuts. | ||
| He hasn't even fought in the UFC yet. | ||
| Everybody knows about him from the internet. | ||
| A lot of people know about him from you and me. | ||
| And a lot of people know about him from Bellator fans and 1FC fans. | ||
| I think people didn't realize how fucking popular he is. | ||
| And how people want to see... | ||
| What an undefeated, undefeated wrestler who dominated guys like Lima and Koroshkov and Bellator. | ||
| Still hasn't lost. | ||
| Dominated. | ||
| Don't you want to see what the fuck that guy can do? | ||
| And if you don't want to see what that guy can do against the fucking ruthless one, Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Robbie Lawler's not done, man. | ||
| No, he's not done. | ||
| He's a legend, man. | ||
| He's a legend. | ||
| He's always scary, man. | ||
| He's had multiple periods in his career. | ||
| He had the Strikeforce period. | ||
| He had the UFC period. | ||
| He had the Championship period. | ||
| He had his younger wild days in Hawaii. | ||
| He's fallen on some hard times lately. | ||
| He's not the greatest... | ||
| Robbie Lawler is not the greatest wrestler of all time. | ||
| He's fucking good. | ||
| But he did wrestle growing up. | ||
| And what the equalizer is... | ||
| That's a far cry. | ||
| ...are his fucking hands, dude. | ||
| His kicks, his knees, everything. | ||
| You could say he's right in there, a decent wrestler, but it's fucking hands, dude. | ||
| And it's anybody in the UFC. He might. | ||
| Maybe, but finding out is going to be entertaining as fuck. | ||
| Dude, again, I think you guys are coming at me like I don't think it's a great fight. | ||
| I'd love the fight. | ||
| No, no, we're not. | ||
| I just went, ah, man, I would've given Colby Covington. | ||
| I would've given... | ||
| That's coming. | ||
| That's coming. | ||
| This is after the first UFC fight. | ||
| He's a fucking two-time world champ. | ||
| Or Robbie Lawler gets Colby Covington if he wins. | ||
|
unidentified
|
True. | |
| That's a great way for Robbie to get back into the mix. | ||
| And plus, you don't want to make it easy on Ben Ashkin, because everyone's going, yeah, this two out-of-the-UFC organization champ, let's see what he's made of. | ||
| Robbie Lodge is a tough fucking test, good takedown defense, knockout artist. | ||
| It gives Robbie an opportunity to reset, too, if Robbie can beat him. | ||
| Robbie didn't have a good fight with Rafael Dos Anjos, but he did have a good fight with Cowboy. | ||
| Those were the last two fights he had, I believe. | ||
| Am I right about that? | ||
| Was it Dos Anjos and Cowboy? | ||
| He lost to Dos Anjos, right? | ||
| Has Askren fought anybody at Lawler's level? | ||
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| No way, right? | ||
| Well, Lima, Douglas Lima, but that was a younger Lima. | ||
| Lima didn't wrestle growing up. | ||
| It was a younger Lima. | ||
| Younger Lima, so I'm not the same. | ||
| Younger Lima. | ||
| Korshkov's a fucking monster, but... | ||
| But both those guys, he dominated them so hard. | ||
| They were young. | ||
| Lima's a beast, though, but Lawler brings in wrestling and ferocious striking. | ||
| Also, competition at the highest level. | ||
| He's talking about a world champion in the UFC. I mean, he fought warriors. | ||
| He fought some of the best of the best. | ||
| I mean, he's one of the best of the best. | ||
| I'm interested to see if Aspen can talk shit on that. | ||
| Can he? | ||
| What'd you say? | ||
| Is there something about Lawler that Aspen can talk shit about? | ||
| No. | ||
| What can you say? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| There's a few guys you can't talk shit about. | ||
| It's freaking Robbie Lawler, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| Before Tyron Woodley beat him, people thought he was the boogeyman. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Robbie Lawler. | ||
| He used to get his shit out of people. | ||
| I'll never forget Dana White at the Comedy Store in 2002 or 2003. We're at the parking lot and Dana White went to see you and he's raving about this new kid. | ||
| Oh my God, I got this new kid, Robbie Lawler. | ||
| He's ferocious. | ||
| He's a wrestler who's just knocking everybody out on the local level. | ||
| You're going to hear a lot about Robbie Lawler. | ||
| I'll never forget that. | ||
| It was like 2001, 2002, something like that. | ||
| Talking about a Hall of Famer. | ||
| Legit Hall of Famer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So for sure it's the toughest opponent of Ben Askren's career. | ||
| Or, yeah, I would say it's the toughest. | ||
| For sure it's the toughest. | ||
| Validates Ben if he beats him. | ||
| I have to be totally honest. | ||
| I never watched his fights in 1FC. I never figured out how to do it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He had a hard time with a Russian wrestler. | |
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| What's the best way? | ||
| I just saw highlights. | ||
| I saw highlights too. | ||
| I didn't watch 1FC either. | ||
| All I saw was Ben, as soon as he puts his hands on people, something's up. | ||
| He has bionic hands or something. | ||
| Because as soon as he's able to get his hands on, he just doesn't let go. | ||
| And I'm not going to say names. | ||
| He just pulls you down. | ||
| I'm not going to say names, but he does that. | ||
| He's like a giant Khabib. | ||
| He does that to everybody. | ||
| Guys we know that are good grapple. | ||
| I mean, everybody. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly what I hear. | ||
| He's a bigger champion. | ||
| Which is why you and I both, we went on a goddamn campaign to get that motherfucker in the UFC. It worked! | ||
| How long did it take? | ||
| I know, I love that guy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Damn! | |
| Having him on the podcast was great too because people could get to see who he actually is. | ||
| You want a guy like him. | ||
| Remember him talking, these little shit-talking blurbs? | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| And you think, is this guy an asshole? | ||
| Who is this guy? | ||
| But then you sit with him for an hour and he's fun. | ||
| He's fucking smart as shit. | ||
| Articulate. | ||
| Really well-educated. | ||
| Looks like a Greek statue, right? | ||
| Doesn't he? | ||
| He can take a shot like no one, man. | ||
| He takes fucking knees when he shoots and gets clipped with knees. | ||
| Not good enough. | ||
| Who are the greatest fighters? | ||
| There's a couple others that you used to campaign for. | ||
| The greatest fighters that never fought in the UFC. Ben Askren is one. | ||
| Who's the other one? | ||
| Fedor was a big one. | ||
| Here's another one, a black guy. | ||
| A black guy? | ||
| Black guy who's never fought in the UFC. Who you campaigned for for ten fucking years. | ||
| Melvin Manhoof. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| But Melvin wasn't really fighting that much MMA outside of pride rules, right? | ||
| Like, had he fought anywhere else? | ||
| He fought Bellator MMA. You know what, he's the kind of guy that's gonna fucking knock you into another dimension or he's gonna get choked out. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But either way, you bring him in. | ||
| His fight with Robbie Lawler. | ||
| How come we never got Melvin into the UFC? Because you wanted him in. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| No. | ||
| Once you suggest the fighter, they're never coming in. | ||
| Nah, Ben got in, bro. | ||
| That's the way it works. | ||
| Dana hated him. | ||
| Dana fucking hated Ben. | ||
| No, Ben. | ||
| Dana hated Ben. | ||
| Ben who? | ||
| Askren. | ||
| They hated Ben. | ||
| Didn't they talk shit online? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They went back and forth with each other. | ||
| It was brilliant. | ||
| Dana blocked him on Twitter. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But... | ||
| Now he's in. | ||
| I got ahold of Dana and I said he's a nice guy. | ||
| I said he's a fun guy. | ||
| What if they party? | ||
| What if they end up partying? | ||
| They probably will. | ||
| Especially if Ben becomes champ. | ||
| Makes him a shitload of money. | ||
| Which he's going to. | ||
| Listen, they're gonna be happy they made this decision. | ||
| How old is Ben? | ||
| He's not that old. | ||
| He's like early 30s. | ||
| Early 30s? | ||
| How old is Ben? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| 34? | ||
| He's been doing for a hot minute, but he still fuck people up for a long time. | ||
| He has zero damage. | ||
| He didn't take a punch in his last two fights. | ||
| He hasn't taken a punch in forever. | ||
| You look at the month, it's been years. | ||
| Has it ever been cracked solid? | ||
| Yeah, he's been hit. | ||
| Yeah, Jay Heron. | ||
| He's been hit pretty hard. | ||
| Jay Heron actually split decision. | ||
| And he, I remember something up, he was telling me about, I don't want to speak out of school, so I won't even say what he said. | ||
| I don't remember what he said. | ||
| But there was an issue in his camp. | ||
| He was also striking a lot. | ||
| And he was like, what the fuck am I doing? | ||
| I'm not going to go in there and do this. | ||
| And then change his whole demeanor. | ||
| Just like, I'm taking everybody down. | ||
| I'm not going to get hit. | ||
| Floyd Mayweather stuff. | ||
| Jay Heron, you know, he's got real talent. | ||
| I mean, Jay Heron lost to some really good guys like George St. Pierre and Tyron Woodley, but Jay Heron's a tough fighter, and he's got a good mix of wrestling and grappling, or wrestling and striking, rather, and it was enough wrestling to get back up when he was stuck on the bottom or to prevent takedowns or fight him off. | ||
| Looking at this, man, you hear this nice little sweep? | ||
| Good reversal. | ||
| Yeah, so he can actually wrestle a bit too, and he hit him with a nice punch there. | ||
| So Jay Heron, look at that, see? | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Dropped him with a spinning back kick. | ||
| Yeah, so Jay Heron is a tough guy, man. | ||
| Really, really tough. | ||
| Jay Heron. | ||
| He wrestles his whole life? | ||
| Yeah, he's a real wrestler. | ||
| And he's also got a lot of experience and had a lot of experience striking. | ||
| That was after he fought Georges St-Pierre. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Wasn't it? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| For sure that's after he fought. | ||
| Check to see if that's correct. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Because I know Jay... | ||
| That's after he fought George. | ||
| So they fought after he got released from the UFC? Yes. | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| So anyway, that was like the toughest test of his UFC career, but apparently there was another fight that he had in 1FC. Now, I'm getting this completely secondhand, and I apologize, but I didn't think we were going to talk about this. | ||
| I didn't prepare this or anything like that, but I think someone was telling me that he fought some dude and the fight got stopped by an eye poke, but that it was a tough fight. | ||
| Was it the Russian cat? | ||
| It might have been the Russian cat. | ||
| Look at that! | ||
| Look at this fight! | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Dariush got that body triangle. | ||
| I don't know if this is true. | ||
| This is just my guess and I think the first person to utilize that body triangle offensively at a high level in competition It was Jean-Jacques Machado in Abu Dhabi. | ||
| He was the first one. | ||
| I know there's old pictures of catch wrestling with guys in body triangles from the back, but in high-level competition, recorded, historical high-level competition, Abu Dhabi, Jean-Jacques Machado fucking ran through guys putting that body triangle on the back. | ||
| I remember asking him when he got back from Abu Dhabi, A figure four lock, you know, while you're on the back, why not just use the regular leg hooks? | ||
| And he said, man, when you're going, no gi is so slippery. | ||
| And he goes, you got to lock in the hips. | ||
| And from that point on, that changed my game. | ||
| I'm like, okay, I guess when I get the back, that's going to be my main focus is putting a triangle, a body triangle on. | ||
| And that was 1998, 99 in that area. | ||
| Old school, man. | ||
| Well, a lot of people don't know how much... | ||
| Well, everybody knows you're a Jean-Jacques black belt, but a lot of people don't know how much Jean-Jacques style of Nogi is what influenced you to come up with a lot of the positions and moves from Tenth Planet. | ||
| Not only me, but Marcelo Garcia. | ||
| Jean-Jacques Machado was the first Marcelo Garcia of the Abu Dhabi... | ||
| Historical archive. | ||
| He was the first one, because when you look at Marcelo Garcia, and no doubt, Marcelo Garcia, when you're talking about the greatest grappler of all time, Marcelo Garcia is right there in the conversation, can easily be number one. | ||
| If you had to say number one, would it be Hickson? | ||
| I'm going to say Marcelo Garcia, Jean-Jacques Hickson, number one, Haja Gracie, Hoffa Mendez, you know, that level. | ||
| But the first one in Abu Dhabi was Jean-Jacques. | ||
| When you look at what he did, he was using X guard and he was getting the back, putting the body triangles on. | ||
| The back was his shit. | ||
| And then Marcelo came and he was using X-Guard too. | ||
| I'm not taking anything away from Marcelo Garcia. | ||
| Anybody that knows me knows that I've given Marcelo Garcia more props than fucking anybody living. | ||
| You don't have to explain that. | ||
| Marcelo Garcia is one of the greatest of all time. | ||
| And so is Jean-Jacques. | ||
| They're both two of the greatest of all time. | ||
| There's a lot of that group. | ||
| Jean-Jacques was The first Abu Dhabi legend as far as finishing goes when you're talking about submissions because in those early Abu Dhabi's you had a bunch of wrestlers who were masters at controlling human beings without clothing but they didn't know how to pass and they didn't know how to finish and then on the flip side you had Brazilians who were masters of passing the guard and finishing their opponents but They didn't really know how to do it as well without the gi. | ||
| So you had a lot of stalemating going on and a lot of bickering and bantering back and forth about the rule set and all that. | ||
| For the first couple of years, you had the jiu-jitsu guys stalemating with the wrestlers and there's all this grease and all this sweat flying everywhere. | ||
| And then enters Jean-Jacques and his first year in Abu Dhabi, he submits everybody and gets the gold medal. | ||
| So at that point, people are like, "What the fuck? | ||
| This guy doesn't even have fingers on his left hand. | ||
| - Crazy. - How did he come into Abu Dhabi and tap everybody and win the gold medal? | ||
| What the fuck is going on there? | ||
| Like really big? | ||
| Yeah, we just had the trials two weeks ago, and it was the biggest trials of all time. | ||
| There's like 60, 70 people in each division. | ||
| Think about that shit. | ||
| Think about that shit. | ||
| It's bigger than ever. | ||
| Just to switch complete gears, how about that bare-knuckle boxing? | ||
| I finally caught... | ||
| Have you guys seen this? | ||
| Chris Lieben just knocked Phil Barone out, right? | ||
| Starch Phil Barone. | ||
| Hendricks got knocked out, but I watched like... | ||
| Exciting shit? | ||
| Was Boss Rootin doing commentary for that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| It was pretty exciting. | ||
| Is that MMA or just boxing? | ||
| Just fucking boxing. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Just boxing. | |
| Bare knuckle boxing. | ||
| And you know, you guys always talk about how you don't want gloves and shit. | ||
| We dudes are getting fucked up. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| You should be all over that shit. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| You should be on top of that. | ||
| Start their own league, bro. | ||
| Bare knuckle boxing. | ||
| Is it in the States or Russian? | ||
| It was here. | ||
| Listen, don't give me a job. | ||
| Brendan Schaub. | ||
| You leave UFC? I wish them well. | ||
| I hope they do it. | ||
| Anything that Boss Rootin's attached to, I'm happy for. | ||
| Dude, how about bare-knuckle MMA? That's next, right? | ||
| Well, it should happen. | ||
| It should be tough. | ||
| We call it cock. | ||
| How is that tough? | ||
| Bare-knuckle boxing happened. | ||
| How hard is it going to be to have bare-knuckle MMA? We're just trying to stay. | ||
| No tape. | ||
| MMA's in like a motherfucker. | ||
| No taping your wrists. | ||
| Oh, fucking proper for anybody. | ||
| MMA's not going anywhere, so we don't have to... | ||
| Let's be logical. | ||
| If you could smash your elbow into someone's eye, if you could smash your elbow across someone's nose, into their face, into their mouth, over and over again, into their lips, into their teeth, right into their mouth guard, if you could do that with your elbow, why can't you punch them? | ||
| Why can't you punch them just with your hands? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Because if every casual fan turns on Fox or ESPN, whatever it's going to be on, and they see dudes with nothing on, they're like, oh, this is barbaric. | ||
| We can't market this. | ||
| Reebok, everyone goes, we're out. | ||
| If people thought something and that something was not true, what do we do? | ||
| Do we educate them? | ||
| Or do we go, well, nothing we can do. | ||
| People just think differently. | ||
| They don't know any better. | ||
| So should football get rid of helmets? | ||
|
unidentified
|
You teach them. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| You really should. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| They think that'd be the one thing. | ||
| They should wear some kind of leather type thing. | ||
| That's what they used to wear. | ||
| Dude, they used to wear leather. | ||
| Like in that George Clooney movie? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Like some kind of leather. | ||
| You've heard of that bullshit movie? | ||
| They're all built like George Clooney and they're pro athletes. | ||
| Just a bunch of white dudes. | ||
| A bunch of super white dudes with leather helmets on. | ||
| Dude, I wish I could go back for it. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| That was only until they let black people in. | ||
| Dude's ruled sports. | ||
| Oh, you're talking about Babe Ruth? | ||
| All that shit. | ||
| Football? | ||
|
unidentified
|
There wasn't one Dominican or black dude doing fastballs. | |
| Dude, when Jim Brown showed up, they're like, we can't catch this guy. | ||
| When Jim Brown showed up, have you seen those highlights, those epic runs of Jim Brown? | ||
| And it's all white dudes chasing him. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Destroying him. | |
| And dude, he's putting on moves on these white guys. | ||
| They didn't even know what to do with them. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Then the first black guy came in baseball and everyone was like, what the fuck? | |
| Or a Dominican? | ||
| Game over. | ||
| Jim Brown had some of the... | ||
| You gotta watch his greatest fucking runs. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Better than Barry Sanders and OJ Simpson. | ||
| You know, he's a better lacrosse player. | ||
| Dang. | ||
| Yeah, he's a monster at lacrosse. | ||
| Can you imagine playing lacrosse with Jim Brown? | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| And he's allowed to hit you with that stick, right? | ||
| A little bit? | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| Dude, he can kind of hit people a little bit with that stick. | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| How much hitting with that stick can you get away with? | ||
| You can hit the arms. | ||
| You just can't hit the head, but you can hit the arms. | ||
| Jamie's closest to college as any of us. | ||
| How hard can you hit people? | ||
| I played college lacrosse. | ||
| Oh, you played it? | ||
| Yeah, I played it. | ||
| I played it, yeah. | ||
| How much can you beat each other with? | ||
| You can beat the shit out of each other. | ||
| Your arms. | ||
| That's why they have pads in the arms. | ||
| You hit the arms. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| The stick. | ||
| You can literally fucking cold cop. | ||
| These guys are killing each other. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| How is the sport still around? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Lacrosse? | |
| It's one of the oldest sports in the world, man. | ||
| Indians started it. | ||
| It looks kind of fun. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| People get fucked up. | ||
| Okay, that dude just got waylaid. | ||
| That's not illegal? | ||
| Nah, man. | ||
| You think it'll ever make it on Fox? | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| You think it'll ever make it on Fox on a Saturday afternoon? | ||
| Never. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| You're allowed to hit each other with the stick, run into each other like that? | ||
| Yeah, bro. | ||
| And make the stick have contact with that guy's head? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hockey, but on fucking grass. | ||
| It's poor man hockey. | ||
| It's a great game. | ||
| It's a great game. | ||
| It looks like a great game if you like concussions. | ||
| It's a great game, yeah. | ||
| How often do you watch it? | ||
| How often do you watch it? | ||
| The first of never, Eddie. | ||
| The first of never. | ||
| It's fun to play. | ||
| If there's a game that's great, that means you watch it and you follow it. | ||
| It's not great if you don't watch and follow. | ||
| Is it great? | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Do you follow it? | ||
| I don't watch a ton of jiu-jitsu either and jiu-jitsu's great. | ||
| Then you don't like it. | ||
| You guys are missing these chaos. | ||
| You get fucked up in lacrosse, man. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| They're whipping their fucking stick at each other, dude. | ||
| This is chaos. | ||
| Joe, are you going to sacrifice kickboxing for this? | ||
| You got to follow this stuff? | ||
| No, but let me tell you something. | ||
| They're striking each other. | ||
| That's a strike. | ||
| They're elbow striking each other. | ||
| They're not just running into each other. | ||
| They're doing way worse. | ||
| They're hitting each other with the sticks and they're KOing each other with elbows. | ||
| Imagine Jim Brown. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Are you going to stop watching? | ||
| They're running into each other and smashing elbows into each other's faces. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| I'm not saying it's that rough. | ||
| And you got to be fucking athletic. | ||
| You'd be in midfield, go back and forth. | ||
| The cardio, best shape I've ever been in the cross. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'm not denying the cardio. | |
| I'm not denying the ferocity. | ||
| I'm not denying the balls. | ||
| You're talking about entertainment. | ||
| I'm not denying the size of these guys' balls. | ||
| I'm not denying them. | ||
| I'm just saying, if you ain't following it, It's okay at best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The college is the best. | ||
| You know, people say, I love all music. | ||
| You like mariachis? | ||
| You like that? | ||
| I love every style. | ||
| How many mariachi CDs do you have in your car right now? | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I love all music. | ||
| You like polka? | ||
| You remember when dudes used to have like a 12 disc CD changer in the car? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, you were balling. | |
| And you push it in the cartridge. | ||
| Dude, I had 7,000 CDs in the back of my truck. | ||
| Just all on the floor. | ||
| Do you remember those disc changers? | ||
| Like everybody, if you were a ball, you had a disc changer. | ||
| 12 disc changers. | ||
|
unidentified
|
6 disc changers. | |
| I'm going to go with number 6, please. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Fuck yeah. | |
| I'll never forget going to... | ||
| So old school. | ||
| The car stereo store with him, and Joe would go in and just, give me the best shit. | ||
| How long ago was that? | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| Well, once I started making television money, I just wanted to hear what the best stereo sounds like. | ||
| It sounds fucking really good. | ||
| Didn't you say that word for word? | ||
| Give me the best shit. | ||
| Yeah, we were trying to figure out what to do. | ||
| The best shit. | ||
| Let's do the best shit. | ||
| Like, what sounds the best? | ||
| What car was it in? | ||
| That was a Porsche 996 twin turbo. | ||
| And your Barracuda. | ||
| And your Acura. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| NSX. All that shit. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Good for you. | |
| It makes the experience better. | ||
| He had like that high-level NSX back in the day. | ||
| This was like... | ||
| Type R or something? | ||
| And we were at Jiu-Jitsu and he had a bucket-handled hair and he couldn't walk. | ||
| And he goes, you gotta take me to the pro-low therapy, people. | ||
| And I had to drive his NSX. And I knew how to drive stick, but high-performance stick's a little different. | ||
| Different animal, yeah. | ||
| So we were panicking. | ||
| He's fucking holding his knees. | ||
| He's screaming. | ||
| He goes, you gotta take me to pro-low therapy! | ||
| Well, I gotta take you to the pro-low therapy doctor to get an MRI. Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I grinded his gears a little bit, and his fucking... | ||
| He had steam! | ||
|
unidentified
|
He had steam coming out of his fucking hair follicles, dude! | |
| Hell yeah! | ||
| He was holding his leg, and he's going, you motherfucker, don't grind my shit! | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| I'm trying! | ||
| I didn't yell at you like that. | ||
| You were so mad, dude. | ||
| Okay, but I did not yell at you like that. | ||
| I know you got your artistic flair going. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'd be pissed too, though. | |
| Dude, seriously. | ||
| I'll never forget that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I forget everything except special moments. | |
| And I said yes. | ||
| Do you actually know how to drive a stick? | ||
| He's like, yeah, I got you, bro. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I actually lied, and I didn't. | ||
|
unidentified
|
No, I didn't. | |
| You know what? | ||
| My first car was a Ford Pinto station wagon. | ||
| You probably haven't driven a stick in a while. | ||
| It was a long time. | ||
| Then I had a Fiat. | ||
| Remember those little tiny sports cars, those two-seater Fiats? | ||
| I had one of those. | ||
| Those are in style now. | ||
| Dude, for a month, I was driving around at 19 with the little two-seater yellow Fiat going, I'm the fucking man, until it broke down like all Fiats do. | ||
| And I drove it for a month. | ||
| We could never figure out how to fix that motherfucker. | ||
| Why didn't you bring it to a Fiat repair, man? | ||
| It was a mid-engine. | ||
| That thing was so... | ||
| Fix it again, Tony. | ||
| That's what Fiat standing for. | ||
| Fix it again, Tony. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| When that car broke down, I realized who my friends really were. | ||
| Nobody wanted to come pick me up for parties. | ||
| One night I started crying, man. | ||
| I don't really have any real friends. | ||
| Everybody was partying. | ||
| Everyone was going out. | ||
| I lived in that kind of far. | ||
| How far? | ||
| And I was the one picking 20-25 minutes. | ||
| Dude, that's just a hassle for your friends. | ||
| That's why I was crying. | ||
| Why do you think I was crying? | ||
| I'm like, I don't have any friends. | ||
| Yeah, you're cool, but 25 minutes is a long way. | ||
| I'm trying to fuck this girl. | ||
| I'm going to pick you up. | ||
| I realized how important cars were. | ||
| I'll never forget when my Fiat was up on blocks in my garage and nobody could figure it out. | ||
| Nobody could figure it out. | ||
| Dude, how great is this? | ||
| They're doing the throwback. | ||
| Like the throwback logos. | ||
| Isn't that dope for the 25th anniversary? | ||
| Is this the first time Jermaine Durandamy has fought since she won? | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| And then there's Raquel Pennington, who's just a beast. | ||
| How crazy is this? | ||
| Okay, check this out. | ||
| How sexist is the UFC? Think about this. | ||
| I'd say opposite, bro. | ||
| This is a joking way. | ||
| But when Raquel Pennington fought Amanda Nunes, the one thing they had in common was they both had girlfriends that were UFC fighters. | ||
| They don't touch on that. | ||
| And everything was fine. | ||
| Everything was cool and it should be cool. | ||
| But can you imagine if there was two male fighters fighting for the belt and they both had boyfriends that were also UFC fighters? | ||
| Damn. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| Why is that sexist though? | ||
| We don't let guys do that. | ||
| We're okay with girls doing that. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| The UFC wouldn't give a fuck if DC and John were gay. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| They wouldn't care. | ||
| You think they would be okay with that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
100%. | |
| You think so? | ||
| As long as they're winning fights, they don't care. | ||
| But here's what you have to take into consideration. | ||
| I don't think there's been any suppression of gay fighters in promotions. | ||
| There hasn't been enough promotions. | ||
| How weird is it? | ||
| It's probably super hard for some gay guys to get acceptance in gyms. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| It's got to be a gay gym, right? | ||
| It's got to be a gay dude gym? | ||
| Or someone who runs the gym who's super open-minded. | ||
| Your trainer's got to be gay. | ||
| It doesn't have to be gay. | ||
| He could be a guy that's just super open-minded and you could let him in. | ||
| But the problem is fight culture is old culture. | ||
| And that old, old culture from the boxing days and a lot of the wrestling days, like there's this thought of, you know, it's not the most progressive concept that, you know, gay guys, whoa, damn, Raquel Pennington. | ||
| That's the right attitude. | ||
| You know, there's not a sense of equality. | ||
| Well, check this out. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Don't... | |
| Isn't it... | ||
| This is my theory. | ||
| My theory that so... | ||
| There's a disproportionate amount of female, lesbian fighters having success in the UFC. And this is my theory. | ||
| Well, they're the best fighters. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| You know why? | ||
| This is my theory. | ||
| Is their training camps are not disruptive. | ||
| Right? | ||
| If they were heterosexual, everybody would be making moves on them. | ||
| They're dietitian. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The kickboxing trainer. | ||
| Everybody's going to be trying to make moves on them. | ||
| When they're lesbian, everybody just treats them like a guy. | ||
| You're crazy. | ||
| You're over thinking this. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I think this is a factor. | ||
| No, no, this is real. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| This may be a factor, but I don't think that's what makes them... | ||
| I think there's just some women like to fight and maybe more lesbians like to fight than straight women. | ||
| They're more drawn to it. | ||
| But a lot of straight women like to fight too. | ||
| I think their camps are less disruptive. | ||
| Because you take a girl, okay, let's just take a girl that looks like a UFC fighter that looks as good as Paige Van Zandt. | ||
| She's just like that. | ||
| Imagine all the dick that's going to be thrown at her every day. | ||
| The dick The dietitian, the chiropractor, the kickboxing. | ||
| Even if she's not single. | ||
| Especially if she's single. | ||
| Can you imagine the drama involved? | ||
| Trust me, I'm in the fucking fight game. | ||
| The girls are getting... | ||
| If you're a heterosexual girl and you're in a jiu-jitsu school... | ||
| It's like being a hot marine. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But if you're lesbian and you're hardcore, You're going to have a drama-free training camp and a school. | ||
| You're going to stick with the school. | ||
| Look at all the lesbian fighters. | ||
| They stick with the trainers. | ||
| There's no drama. | ||
| There's no drama. | ||
| Cyborg, Gina Carano, Randa Rousey. | ||
| Gina Carano! | ||
| What you're saying is correct, but this is just a factor. | ||
| There's a bunch of factors. | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
| Rose. | ||
| Yeah, she's beautiful. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'm not saying all the top fighters are lesbian. | |
| I'm just saying there's a disproportionate amount of top fighters that are lesbian. | ||
| And I think that's because... | ||
| You don't think they're drawn more to the sport? | ||
| Rose Namajunas got a gigantic gorilla boyfriend that will fucking stomp on you. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Pat Berry? | |
| Yes. | ||
| Well, not me, but yeah. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Can you imagine if Rose Namajunas was single? | ||
| Can you imagine all the dick that would be flying at her? | ||
| Like, she'd be dodging that shit like the Matrix. | ||
| Respectfully, you're right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| There's less drama. | ||
| Dude, because in jiu-jitsu, not even striking or wrestling, just in jiu-jitsu, heterosexual girls, it's common in any field, though. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| People are way more physical at an MMA gym. | ||
| There's way more contact with a guy and a girl at an MMA gym. | ||
| Jiu-jitsu girls are more prone to switch jiu-jitsu schools than guys. | ||
| Because they start dating a guy from another school, and they go, you know what? | ||
| Let me go train at that school on Saturdays. | ||
| They start training at the school on Saturdays, and then the guys at their school are like, well, you're training over there. | ||
| But dudes don't do that. | ||
| But the girls do that because they're heterosexual. | ||
| But if there's a lesbian, there's a little bit. | ||
| I'm not saying it's a be-all-end-all. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| I don't think the UFC highlights Amanda Nunes enough being lesbian. | ||
| She should be on fucking every poster in West Hollywood. | ||
| No, check this out. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Beat the fuck out of Rhonda. | ||
| Fightin' Cyborg. | ||
| And beat the fuck out of Raquel Pennington, who's a beast. | ||
| Beat the shit out of her. | ||
| She's a monster. | ||
| She's marketable, man. | ||
| Think about the music business. | ||
| There's a disproportionate amount of... | ||
| I would say 90% of my favorite singers are gay. | ||
| I love gay singers. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| Name a gay singer. | ||
| Peter fucking... | ||
| I'm not even going to say his name. | ||
| I don't want to bust anybody out. | ||
| I'm just going to say... | ||
| That we don't know about? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Freddie Mercury, whatever. | ||
| But what I'm saying is there's a disproportionate amount of gay vocalists out there, right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| Think about that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Currently, though? | |
| And gay Broadway people. | ||
| I can only name one, right? | ||
| You would think of people that perform on Broadway, you'd think that at least a healthy percentage would be gay. | ||
| And think about this. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| Not artists. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| In the music industry, there's a lot of... | ||
| Gay music producers and music executives, right? | ||
| And they do creepy shit, right? | ||
| Not because they're gay, just because they're guys. | ||
| Because they're guys. | ||
| Guys do creepy shit. | ||
| And you're going to do creepy shit with girls? | ||
| Or if you're gay, you're going to do creepy shit with guys. | ||
| There's a disproportionate amount of gay singers out there. | ||
| And how is a heterosexual singer going to compete with a gay singer when they're ready to suck dick at the drop of a fucking hat? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, how about you want to be Batman? | ||
| So what are you saying? | ||
| You're saying that happened with a lot of guys? | ||
| I'm not saying anything. | ||
| I'm just saying there's a lot of gay singers and there's a lot of gay... | ||
| And I love gay singers. | ||
| Most of my favorite singers are gay. | ||
| I don't think no one's arguing about it. | ||
| There's a lot of gay singers. | ||
| Let me phrase it this way. | ||
| Are you saying that the same way that a gal was trying to get into the music business, she could potentially run into some unscrupulous males in the business who prey on young girls trying to enter into the business? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The same could be said for young guys with gay guys. | ||
| If they're gay, they're willing to suck that producer's dick. | ||
| And if they're not, if they're straight, maybe it's even better. | ||
| There's some straight guys who are going to do it. | ||
| There's straight guys who are going to do it. | ||
| So dudes in bands, like bass players and drummers, are like, dude, we need a gay singer to get a deal up in this motherfucker. | ||
| So they look for gay singers. | ||
| I don't know the music industry. | ||
| Oh shit, look at that Jermaine Duran to me, 1-2. | ||
| That was nasty. | ||
| Duran, you know, one of the worst champions of all time, but is fucking skilled, man. | ||
| Oh dude, really high-level stand-up striker. | ||
| Like a 14-time world champion or some shit like that. | ||
| Very, very good striking, but did not want nothing to do with Cyborg. | ||
| Isn't that fascinating? | ||
| Literally was like, you know what? | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| My hand hurts. | ||
| I still don't think she beat Holly. | ||
| I don't think she beat Holly. | ||
| Well, here's why I agree with you. | ||
| Holly clanged her with a question mark kick and dropped her. | ||
| She had her stunned with that, and then she dropped her with a straight left hand. | ||
| Those are two hugely significant moments in the fight. | ||
| The only significant moments? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Well, Jermaine hit her after the bell twice. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Twice? | |
| Nice. | ||
| And I think the second time, you should have taken a point away because they were hurting her. | ||
| The last one she landed after the bell, I think it was, was it the second round? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, fuck. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Hey, Jermaine looks like a solid fucking striker. | ||
| Oh, she's super solid. | ||
| No, world class, bro. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Did you hear what we were saying? | ||
| She's a world champion, dude. | ||
| Is she a lesbian? | ||
| No, she's a multiple-time world champion. | ||
| Her kickboxing is out of this world, man. | ||
| She had some insane kickboxing record. | ||
| Jamie, pull up her kickboxing record. | ||
| I'm surprised they gave Raquel Penton this fight. | ||
| Just an awful mashup for her. | ||
| Raquel's a fucking beast, man. | ||
| Not when it comes to the striking game. | ||
| Well, she's just fighting a woman who's just way better than her. | ||
| So is Amanda Nunes. | ||
| Look at her fucking record. | ||
| Those are all wins, son. | ||
| No, world champion, dude. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| 37-0. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| And she's lanky. | ||
| She's got wide shoulders, long arms. | ||
| There's no nightmare to deal with. | ||
| Here's the thing, man. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Why didn't she want Cyborg? | ||
| Because she doesn't want... | ||
| She wants to get stomped the fuck out. | ||
| Cyborg's too big. | ||
| Cyborg, she said, was a perennial... | ||
| What'd you call her? | ||
| What were the words? | ||
| Steroid user or some shit. | ||
| She had like a... | ||
| I don't want to... | ||
| I don't want to misquote it. | ||
| She was scared. | ||
| Straight up scared. | ||
| Was like, you know what? | ||
| I'll vacate the belt. | ||
| Fuck that noise. | ||
| I'm going to go back down. | ||
| To paraphrase, she essentially was saying that Cyborg has cheated and that she's used steroids. | ||
| I don't know what the wording was. | ||
| She didn't want to fight her. | ||
| And she said because of that, she didn't want to fight her. | ||
| At first she had her hand hurt. | ||
| Then she was like, you know what? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I just don't want this. | ||
| She said she needed thumb surgery. | ||
| And she brought that up immediately when I asked her about fighting Cyborg. | ||
| But I think Cyborg's the boogie woman to these people. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| I think she's so much bigger than everybody else. | ||
| I mean, she's cutting down from 175, 180. Cyborg beat the shit out of her. | ||
|
unidentified
|
She's so powerful. | |
| She is not 180. She's Cyborg? | ||
| She'll get up there, bro. | ||
| She's a big woman. | ||
| To 135? | ||
| No, 145. There's dudes who don't want to fuck with her. | ||
| There's dudes who don't want to fuck with that girl. | ||
| Think about how big Connor is. | ||
| Connor's walking around at 170-ish, right? | ||
| He used to cut down to 145. Just think about that cyborg is basically somewhere in that same range. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| Yeah, that's huge. | ||
| That's a lot of weight. | ||
| A lot of weight to cut. | ||
| Somewhere in the 170, and maybe even during the offseason, maybe she gets even heavier. | ||
| Oh, Durandame just hit her with a fucking nasty straight left. | ||
| Dude, how about the fucking Amanda Nunez cyborg fight, end of December? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| John Jones, Gusvin, same card. | ||
| I think she's too small. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I think Amanda's too small. | |
| Dude, me too, just too small. | ||
| Durandame looks so nasty. | ||
| Look how good her striking looks. | ||
| Hey listen, I gotta get out of here. | ||
| I gotta go to 10th Planet 15 year anniversary party. | ||
| Tonight? | ||
| We got Bobby Lee's gonna perform. | ||
| Sam Tripoli's gonna perform. | ||
| What time does it start? | ||
| Steve Simone, Lee Syatt, Bobby Slayton. | ||
| What time does it start? | ||
| It starts at right now. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Damn, bro. | ||
| I gotta get out of here, man. | ||
| Peace out on us? | ||
| 15 years, baby. | ||
| Damn, congrats, man. | ||
| Dude, thank you, man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Congrats, brother. | |
| Dude, you were there that first day. | ||
| 15 years ago. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| That's nuts, man. | ||
| Time flies like a motherfucker. | ||
| It does, dude. | ||
| Dude, I have so many black belts. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Today, we had a business meeting because this weekend is the 10th Planet Eclipse weekend. | ||
| We do it every year. | ||
| And we have the holiday party. | ||
| We have a quintet, a 10 versus 10 show that was last night that was insane. | ||
| I heard those quintets are amazing. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| And then tonight we have the party. | ||
| And then tomorrow we have the 10PQ, which is the 10th Planet Qualifier for the next DBI, which is the Strawweight Girls. | ||
| Dude, you got a legit business. | ||
| I'm surrounded by dudes who can kill me. | ||
| They're all around me. | ||
| I'm like, these motherfuckers, if they wanted to, they could just end my life right now. | ||
| You've shown them. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| You're a master splinter. | ||
| You've got a bunch of turtles. | ||
| I got fucking insanity all around me. | ||
| If shit ever hits the fan, you want to be hanging out with jiu-jitsu clans. | ||
| That's for goddamn sure. | ||
| Well, I think that jiu-jitsu people are generally more calm because they're going to war all the time. | ||
| They get all that shit out of their system. | ||
| They're way more chill. | ||
| They're way more relaxed. | ||
| If we were running out of food, how easy it would be just to put someone in a rear naked choke. | ||
| And eat them? | ||
| And just like, you know what? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, if you don't train, if you don't train and you're not a doctor, if you're not a doctor or some kind of MacGyver and you don't train, we're going to have to eat you. | ||
| Dude, what you said before the podcast was so funny. | ||
| What? | ||
| About the apocalypse, that homeless people are going to be psyched because they'll be like, ha ha, now you've got to live like us. | ||
| Homeless people are waiting for the end of the world. | ||
| They're digging the fires and shit. | ||
| Because they're going to be running shit. | ||
| They're going to be the alpha males. | ||
| Because they know what they're doing. | ||
| They know how to survive. | ||
| They know the spots and shit. | ||
| They know how to get the good shopping carts. | ||
| Their life is not going to change. | ||
| Might get better. | ||
| What's going to get crowded? | ||
| Dudes in favelas. | ||
| If you live in a favela, you don't have to worry about the end of the world because it's already the end of the world for you. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You already got that shit mastered. | ||
| Most people that are walking around pushing shopping carts with all those plastic bags hanging off them, they're probably most likely mentally ill. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Batshit crazy. | ||
| We'll all just be able to fall and steal this shit. | ||
| Probably MKUltra throwaways. | ||
| Probably child trafficking throwaways. | ||
| Eddie just went into that. | ||
| It might be. | ||
| It might be. | ||
| Some of them have to be. | ||
| Some of them have to be some throwaway. | ||
| Because we all know trafficking is going on. | ||
| What happens to these people? | ||
| A lot of them are veterans. | ||
| That's where it gets real scary. | ||
| A lot of them are veterans. | ||
| A lot of veterans come home and they don't know what the fuck to do. | ||
| Oh, that scared me. | ||
| It said Khabib McGregor, but it says now available on Fight Pass. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| Is that an outfit? | ||
| It says available on Fight Pass. | ||
| I love you too, Eddie. | ||
| Dude, you're the best. | ||
| Congrats, man. | ||
| Congratulations, brother. | ||
| I'll call you later, brother. | ||
| Wow, his wedding ring hurt. | ||
| Alright, see you guys. | ||
| Later. | ||
| Later, dude. | ||
| Dude, sit over here and I'll feel weird. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to be weird, right? | ||
| Like you're an Uber driver and I'm in the back. | ||
| If you're a friend and you have an extra friend, the friend's in the front seat and that friend leaves and the friend in the back seat stays in the back seat. | ||
| Like, hey, man, you got to get up here. | ||
| Fuck this, dude. | ||
| Damn, Jermaine Durandamy looks spooky. | ||
| She's so dangerous because she doesn't do anything wrong. | ||
| That's so calculated, man. | ||
| Well, it's super, like, super technical with her movements, too, and she's basically playing, like, a rhythm dance. | ||
| She's forcing Raquel into movements, but she has the solutions to those movements, like, several steps ahead. | ||
| Yeah, but here's the thing, Joe. | ||
| Think about how many... | ||
| More fights Jeranamy's been in than Raquel Pennington. | ||
| I mean, not even remotely close. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Well, not just that. | |
| The experience factor at a high level. | ||
| Pennington would have to really struggle to take her down. | ||
| She's a 145-er, and Pennington's been fighting at 135. You know, and Jermaine dropped down to 35 for this fight, right? | ||
| Is this a 35 or a 45, Jamie? | ||
| This is 35. So Jermaine dropped back down to 35 after that 145-pound fight. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Head kick. | ||
| So she's super strong for the weight class. | ||
| Pennington has a tough record too, like salty 6-5 or something. | ||
| She's tough as shit though. | ||
| She's as tough as they come. | ||
| You know, one of my favorite finishes ever was her versus Ashley Evans-Smith because it was just this wild fucking brawl. | ||
| And then she catches her in a bulldog choke and puts her unconscious for like a second to go. | ||
| I think that was the last fight in Denver too. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| Because she's from Colorado Springs, so they usually put her on the Denver cards. | ||
| I'm a fan, by the way. | ||
| I'm a fan, too. | ||
| She's just so damn tough, man. | ||
| But Durant and me, I hate this matchup for after fucking... | ||
| Amanda Nunez. | ||
| Well, it's a scary matchup. | ||
| But she's ranked number four. | ||
| Oh, just that uppercut? | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| It's scary because it's real similar and maybe, you know, Durandamy is even more lethal with all the different things. | ||
| I'm not hating at all, but Durandamy looks identical to the guy in Kickboxer that beats the fuck out of Jean-Claude Van Damme's friend. | ||
| The scary dude who's kicking the walls. | ||
| She's so... | ||
| Think about Durandamy that makes her just... | ||
| See, for sure, Amanda Nunes has more power. | ||
| And she'll assault you. | ||
| And she's more aggressive and reckless. | ||
| She comes after you. | ||
| A Nunes? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And she's a murderer. | ||
| More power in the hands. | ||
| More power. | ||
| Her hands are just stunningly powerful. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Her speed. | |
| And then she's also a black belt on the ground. | ||
| She's a bit of a beast. | ||
| But I think it's the power that's the difference. | ||
| But Durand, to me, has the full arsenal. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| As far as her technique. | ||
| She's a surgeon. | ||
| Yes, that's a good way to put it. | ||
| All of her striking is done so effortlessly. | ||
| It's all efficiently and smooth. | ||
| And there's no weird moments where her hands are down, she's lunging, or her footwork's off. | ||
| Off balance, no. | ||
| Never. | ||
| The only time she struggled severely was against Holly Holm, who's also a world-class boxer. | ||
| And tricky, because Holly's different than probably a lot of the strikers that she faced. | ||
| Well, Holly's big, too. | ||
| Yes, she is big. | ||
| She's very strong. | ||
| Athletic. | ||
| Yeah, and she also has got sneaky shit that she does, like that question mark kick. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| She clanged her right off the head with that. | ||
| That was a big moment, because Durandamy, in the beginning of the fight, was kind of controlling the pace and controlling the rhythm, and Holly had to find her spots, and a lot of people thought she could have won that decision. | ||
| It was real close. | ||
| It's a tough spot for Duran and me where they go, alright, now you're fighting Cyborg. | ||
| And she's like, fuck that, man. | ||
| So then, you know, she gets stripped of the title. | ||
| We all shit on her. | ||
| But it must have been a tough position. | ||
| Well, if she has real feelings about this and she really... | ||
| Oh, something happened. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Grabbing the shorts? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Something happened. | ||
| Hit her in the titty? | ||
| Did she go low? | ||
| Did they take a cuda shot? | ||
| Do you pause? | ||
| Someone took a... | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Jamie, what happened? | ||
| Eye poke? | ||
| Pussy shot? | ||
| Was it? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Was it grabbing? | ||
| Fence grabbing? | ||
| I think it was either short or fence grabbing. | ||
| Oh, it might be a fence grabbing. | ||
| No, but it seems like they're giving her a chance to recover. | ||
| Goddammit, I wish we were paying attention. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's tough. | |
| Something happened. | ||
| Can we rewind a bit? | ||
| Oh, but then we'll fuck everybody up. | ||
| Yeah, it'll be a nightmare. | ||
| We'll figure it out. | ||
| Well, Jeremy just apologized. | ||
| I wonder what it was. | ||
| It seems like a foul. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, nice knee. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| But doesn't go lateral. | ||
| Notice? | ||
| Straight back, right? | ||
| Still good takedown defense, but accepting the fact that clinch is definitely going to happen. | ||
| As opposed to next stage. | ||
| Almost wants the clinch. | ||
| Well, almost. | ||
| She's the bigger fighter. | ||
| It's also the end of the third. | ||
| And she's been winning all the rounds, so she's like, alright, cool, man. | ||
| This is safe for me. | ||
| I'm not going to knock me out of you. | ||
| Yeah, I'll just protect myself. | ||
| Maybe catch my breath. | ||
| And then get you off me and finish the round strong. | ||
| But she's going to have a hard time getting her off. | ||
| Dude, I'm nervous for these next two fights. | ||
| The Yair Korean Zombie one's interesting because Yair's been out for a hot fucking minute. | ||
| Remember he was basically signed with Bellator? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Like, he was going through that whole thing where he turned down the Zabit fight. | ||
| Then they go, all right, if you're not fighting Zabit, we're going to cut you. | ||
| Then he's like, all right, I'll sign with UFC. And then they're like, all right, you're fighting Zabit. | ||
| Then Zabit pulls out. | ||
| Whew. | ||
| Dude, you see that beautiful one? | ||
| Right hand, left hook, right leg kick? | ||
| Dude, she's fun to watch, man. | ||
| She got a bad rap because that turned down the cyborg stuff. | ||
| Well, you know what, man? | ||
| That is what it is. | ||
| We've said so much about that. | ||
| There's really no reason to continue to talk about it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I know. | |
| It's fucked up. | ||
| When you look at the reality of who they are today, Cyborg is just way scarier than any of those girls. | ||
| One of the things that makes Amanda Nunes interesting as an opponent for Cyborg is, first of all, her last fight with Raquel Pennington, she showed a lot of movement. | ||
| I think she needs a shitload of movement in this fight. | ||
| She would need all the movement. | ||
| She needs to be in fucking shape. | ||
| She needs to be in serious shape and she needs to be strong. | ||
| Five rounds. | ||
| And this is one of the things that Amanda Nunes said at the press conference. | ||
| I didn't listen to the press conference. | ||
| The press conference is interesting because Cyborg was accusing her of, I think, not fighting her at a previous time. | ||
| And she said she needed more time. | ||
| I think they wanted to try to do those two in New York for Madison Square Garden perhaps. | ||
| They've been trying it for a while. | ||
| Amanda Nunes goes, I need more time, which I actually like that. | ||
| I like that too, because she's the smaller woman coming up as the 135-pound champion, challenging the 145-pound champion. | ||
| She's going to have to put some weight on. | ||
| She wants to keep it on and be comfortable with it on, and hopefully get above 145 so she can cut a little. | ||
| Because the reality of Cyborg is she's way bigger. | ||
| She's probably walking around. | ||
| How many pounds bigger would you guess than Amanda? | ||
| Just naturally? | ||
| Just naturally. | ||
| 25, 30, probably? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| There's a number. | ||
|
unidentified
|
20s? | |
| I would like to know what that number is. | ||
| At least 20 pounds. | ||
| I would say it would be 20. Let's say 20 to be fair. | ||
| 20 pounds heavier. | ||
| It's entirely possible it would be 20. So if Amanda Nunes is the 135-pound women's champion, what does she actually weigh? | ||
| We're saying, if you think the Cyborg is, let's be generous and say it's in the 170s. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then she cuts down to 145. And we don't know, by the way. | ||
| We just have read things. | ||
| I would like to know. | ||
| Let's see if Cyborg has ever commented on what she weighs before she starts her weight cut. | ||
| 60s? | ||
| High 60s, right? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Let's get crazy and say it's 160. Even 160 would be a lot of weight, bigger than Amanda Nunes, wouldn't you think? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| What does Amanda Nunes weigh? | ||
| God, Amanda Nunes, 50s? | ||
| You think she weighs 150 when she walks around normally and cuts down to 135? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| She's very strong. | ||
| She's big girl. | ||
| She's rocked. | ||
| She's jacked. | ||
| She's got all that back power, man, when she punches. | ||
| She fucking has the longest punches. | ||
| She's one of my favorites. | ||
| She punches so long. | ||
| It's like she's hitting you way at the end. | ||
| And she's fucking aggressive as shit. | ||
| So maybe, let's say, she weighs... | ||
| 145, 150 at the most. | ||
| We'll say 50 at the most. | ||
| Cyborg could be 170. She could be bigger than 170. I'm saying she's rolling around in the 60s. | ||
| You think she's in the 60s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You think she's in the 60s now? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
| Or you think she's in the 60s all the time? | ||
| Do you think she gets bigger than that and then gets lean? | ||
| From talking with her manager, her boyfriend. | ||
| She walks around at 185. Jesus! | ||
| Used to, she said. | ||
| This one, she's approaching UFC 219, which already happened, at 170. What year is this? | ||
| This is at the end of last year. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| You know before I used to walk around at 180 or 85, and now I'm walking around at 170. It's very different. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Then before, when I was heavy, I'm getting to work more and more. | ||
| Okay, that makes sense. | ||
| 170? | ||
| I'm getting to work more and more, getting light, but I really have to be on top of my weight now. | ||
| So she's decided to stay on top of her weight so she doesn't have to go through so much of a brutal cut, which I think is very wise. | ||
| 170 is still a lot of weight. | ||
| That's 25 pounds. | ||
| She fights at 145. She's the 145-pound champion, which means even right now she's saying she doesn't cut as much, but she cuts 25 pounds, man. | ||
| That's how big she is for the division. | ||
| And did Lockhart say this? | ||
| Maybe Dolce is one of those weight cutting experts who are saying that it's tougher for females. | ||
| That the weight cut gets tougher and tougher because of the adipose tissue and stuff like that and their hormones. | ||
| Yeah, I think that was Lockhart. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| It might just be bro science right now. | ||
| We are bro science. | ||
| Neither one of us know jack shit about fat content. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Especially when it comes to women. | ||
| But I do think that, you know, there's also unique struggles with women when it's different times of the month. | ||
| You know, women get bloated, they retain water, and sometimes it's hard to get that water out. | ||
| I've also talked to some women I've dated in the past, women who do those competitions who cut weight to, not for fighting, but for like bodybuilding, where they do bikini. | ||
| Their thyroids are fucked up. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Up. | |
| So then their body, it'll cut down, but then it goes, oh shit, we don't want to do that again. | ||
| So it blows up. | ||
| And it's trying to protect stuff. | ||
| So weight cutting for women, the high amount of time gets tougher and tougher. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bro science. | ||
| Hashtag bro science. | ||
| Hashtag bro science. | ||
| It's also bad for everybody, man. | ||
| It's not good for anybody. | ||
| It's not good for anybody. | ||
| That's why Cowboy at 70 I like, because 55 is so drawn out. | ||
| But then there's guys like fucking Till and Woodley and Wonderboy's fucking huge, too. | ||
| These guys are big. | ||
| This fucking dude. | ||
| You know, what we're about to see. | ||
| Perry's shorter, but he's fucking thick, man. | ||
| Thick and scary. | ||
| And he swings to try to kill you. | ||
| Here's the thing that scares me about this fight with Cowboy. | ||
| Cowboy needs this, right? | ||
| He's a bit of a fork in the road for his career. | ||
| He's fighting a guy in Mike Perry who's trained with his camp. | ||
| Nobody knows Cowboy better. | ||
| He's watched Cowboy spar more than people at Jackson's. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Cowboy needs this. | ||
| Then there's the whole thing with Mike Wigel and John who's cornering Perry against Cowboy. | ||
| It's just a shit situation, man. | ||
| But it is for everybody. | ||
| It's just highly charged. | ||
| It's highly charged. | ||
| But look, both guys are... | ||
| It's a matchup that people want to see. | ||
| It's a real crossroads matchup. | ||
| I love the fight. | ||
| It's a crossroads matchup because if Perry can't get past Donald Cerrone, it puts him in this position where he's... | ||
| He's learning. | ||
| He's certainly getting better. | ||
| But when it comes to world-class competition, who's the most world-class guy he's faced? | ||
| Before, it's Felder. | ||
| And Felder's really a 155-pound guy, too. | ||
| Felder's his best win. | ||
| You mentioned he was hurt. | ||
| Before that, Ponsonabia. | ||
| He lost that. | ||
| That's an old Jake Ellenberger. | ||
| That's a weather Jake Ellenberger. | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
| But it's still fucking stunning. | ||
| The way he knocked him out, you realize that that guy has some... | ||
| It's an older Jake Ellenberger, for sure. | ||
| But that elbow on the break was legit as fuck, dude. | ||
| Because when you look at the guys, Alan Joban beat him, right? | ||
| This is by far his toughest fight. | ||
| I think this is his toughest fight, but also they know each other. | ||
| They've sparred together. | ||
| And I think that Donald thinks he knows his tendencies and he knows what he can do with them. | ||
| And I think Donald has some good times with them. | ||
| They say when they grapple, Donald tuned them up. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I think, man. | ||
| And that's one of the things that Mike Perry said is that Donald's probably going to try to grab ahold of me and put me on my back and hold me down. | ||
| You know, you can't discount this dude. | ||
| I mean, he knocked out Matt Brown. | ||
| I mean, this fucking combination that he did to Rick Story was preposterous. | ||
| Oh, dude, Cowboy's one of the greats. | ||
| He's just been doing it for a long, long fucking time. | ||
| And the way he did that Rick Story one, dude, he's just touching him up. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He's touching him up. | |
| The scary thing about Donald is that when Donald can be the bully, he's going to fuck you up. | ||
| But when someone draws a line in the sand and starts going forward on Donald, he struggles a little bit. | ||
| Look at Nate Diaz' fight. | ||
| You know, there's some... | ||
| The guys who don't play his games, Matt Brown, that was a tough fight for him. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Even though he knocked him out, that was a tough fucking fight. | ||
| Well, Matt Brown's a tough fight for anybody. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Here's that elbow. | ||
| Boom, son. | ||
| I mean, he's got some fucking power, man. | ||
| He looked great against Felder. | ||
| He really did. | ||
| He didn't just look great because Felder hurt his arm. | ||
| He looked great because he looked great. | ||
| But Felder did hurt his arm. | ||
| But, I mean, he hurt his arm off Mike Perry's head. | ||
| That spinning backfist leads to so many broken arms. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| There's a lot of guys. | ||
| Yeah, you hit that forehead. | ||
| And Felder and I were talking about it. | ||
| He tries to kind of smash it like a hammer fist. | ||
| You try to catch a guy right at the end of it like a hammer fist. | ||
| But sometimes the movement. | ||
| And sometimes you hit that fucking forehead. | ||
| Foreheads are so hard, man. | ||
| Maybe it's a blessing in disguise because Felder's a great commentator. | ||
| So do that and quick and punch in the face. | ||
| He is a great commentator. | ||
| He's very very good. | ||
| When we worked together man, I was like damn this dude is smooth. | ||
| He's professional. | ||
| He loves the sport. | ||
| He really does love the sport. | ||
| You know he's an acting major, theater major. | ||
| Yeah, he was a theater major. | ||
| Smart guy. | ||
| He's very, really good at it, man. | ||
| He likes fighting. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He likes it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He's fighting James Vick next, which I think is a very good fight. | ||
| James Vick is a fucking big guy. | ||
| Lost his last one, like his first big step up for James Vick. | ||
| Lost that one. | ||
| But James Vick and Paul Felder is a great fight. | ||
| It's a great fight. | ||
| It's a crazy fight, right? | ||
| Isn't it? | ||
| Pretty crazy fight. | ||
| Big fight for James Vick. | ||
| It's a big fight for both guys. | ||
| It's true, coming off loss. | ||
| And the loss was like a last minute fight. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I think he only got a couple of weeks. | ||
| They switched it on. | ||
| Yeah, less than that, right? | ||
| And he moved up to 170 for that fight. | ||
| Instead of fighting at 155, which, you know, I think if you're going to fight a weight class above yours and, you know, you feel like it's the time and you made the decision, that's great. | ||
| You should do that. | ||
| But if you're not doing that, if you plan to keep fighting at 155, to take a fight in a larger weight class is a big risk. | ||
| And to take a fight against... | ||
| Yeah, against a real killer like Perry. | ||
| I think it's super dangerous. | ||
| Perry's dangerous because he hits like a seven-year-old. | ||
| There's guys who are... | ||
| He takes it. | ||
| He takes it, but he can hit like a fucking middleweight even. | ||
| He hits fucking hard. | ||
| Which is the real problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he takes it. | ||
| And you've got to remember, Cowboy has fought everybody, man. | ||
| He's fought so many fucking people. | ||
| You know, and this is... | ||
| Name a fighter. | ||
| He's probably a fighter. | ||
| He's been fighting forever, man. | ||
| And this is deep into his career. | ||
| You know, this is a real... | ||
| Like, Darren Till is a young, enormous welterweight. | ||
| And Cowboy lost to him. | ||
| It's like, damn, how good is Darren Till? | ||
| Cowboy lost to Edwards, too. | ||
| But if... | ||
| To who? | ||
| Leon Edwards? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He lost his decision. | ||
| That was the one where he was sick as fuck, though, and he almost pulled out of the fight. | ||
| But still, you know? | ||
| It's true. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| Look, no one's saying that Cowboys- I'm not saying Edwards isn't a monster. | ||
| No one's saying Cowboys is a 20-year-old guy who's at the beginning of his career. | ||
| He's been fighting a long time, but I think you get a look at a person from their last fight and you go, ah, man, he's slipping. | ||
| Like, are you sure? | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Because he might just be unmotivated or having a lack of discipline for this camp. | ||
| Or he's fighting a really fucking good guy in Edwards and Darren Till, who are terrible matchups for him. | ||
| Darren Till. | ||
| Because his win was against the other cowboy, the Brazilian cowboy, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Darren Till is such... | ||
| Or Yancy Manderos. | ||
| Sorry, Yancy Manderos. | ||
| If you can't keep him off you, if you can't clip him and keep him off you, he's a nightmare. | ||
| One of the best in the world. | ||
| And this is one of the things that highlights how underrated Woodley's striking has become. | ||
| Because Woodley knocked down both Till, who's thought to be one of the best strikers in the division, and Long and Awkward, and Wonderboy. | ||
| Well, he choked him out. | ||
| But knocked down Wonderboy in both of their fights and had him all fucked up. | ||
| Whereas neither one of those guys hurt him. | ||
| Neither one of those guys hit him. | ||
| That's kind of crazy. | ||
| Impressive, too. | ||
| And doing rap albums and shit. | ||
| I didn't hear his rap. | ||
| Was it Wiz Khalifa? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, yeah. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Have you heard it, Jamie? | ||
| No? | ||
| It's not bad, you know? | ||
| He got upset that we were talking about CM Punk. | ||
| And I was saying that CM Punk... | ||
| What is that? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Logan Paul. | |
| Logan Paul character. | ||
| He would beat CM Punk. | ||
| You're right about that. | ||
| Is that what you said? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I said he's a good fighter. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because Logan Paul wrestled in high school. | ||
| CM Punk did not. | ||
| Also, I was looking at his boxing match. | ||
| I was looking at the way he chains punches together. | ||
| He can punch. | ||
| He's athletic. | ||
| Yeah, he can punch. | ||
| So if you're going to allow CM Punk to fight in the UFC... That was all my point was. | ||
| My point wasn't that CM Punk is bad. | ||
| And I think that CM Punk is actually a very brave guy. | ||
| I think that's a powerful thing to do, to take a chance like that and do it publicly. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I mean, anyone's brave. | ||
| Tyron thought for some reason I was talking shit about him, but I'm most certainly not. | ||
| No, he's a teammate. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Woodley does a TMZ show, so he gets ratings. | ||
| Woodley knows how to play the game. | ||
| I think he loves the guy, too. | ||
| Yeah, it's his boy. | ||
| I respect. | ||
| And if you go, hey, Logan Paul can beat up your boy. | ||
| I don't even know if he could. | ||
| I don't know if they're even the same weight class. | ||
| Isn't Logan Paul a lot bigger? | ||
| I have no idea how big Logan Paul is a YouTuber, so I don't know. | ||
| I feel like someone said he fought at 185 pounds in his boxing match. | ||
| But they didn't cut any weight, though, right? | ||
| Is he that big, 185? | ||
| I think he's a big fella. | ||
| He has a little brother, too, who's calling out, like, Dylan Dennis, which is silly. | ||
| Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| And then he goes, and then people go, uh, you know, Dylan's a world-class jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| He goes, no, no, no, not jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Just boxing. | ||
| Fuck jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Oh, good lord. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He just doesn't know. | ||
| Oh shit, it's about to go down, dude. | ||
| Mike Perry's in the cage and Cowboy's walking up. | ||
| Cowboy always looks so nervous when he fights in Denver. | ||
| He's 86 kilograms flat, whatever that is. | ||
| 86 kilograms. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That's 160-something, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's 189.5. | ||
| Oh, big kid. | ||
| So he's way bigger than CM Punk. | ||
| Well, CM Punk just fought at 70, cut weight. | ||
| Those guys didn't cut weight. | ||
| CM Punk might be in the 189 range. | ||
| Logan Paul's definitely bigger. | ||
| I think Logan Paul is a better athlete. | ||
| He fights at 170. Yeah, there's nothing wrong saying that. | ||
| He probably weighs like probably 180 or something if he cuts down to 170. If you had to guess, CM Punk 80-ish. | ||
| 190? | ||
| 190? | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| That's WWE shit. | ||
| He cuts 20 pounds. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Probably actually now it's probably UFC information. | ||
| Well, he fights at welterweight. | ||
| That's what he competes. | ||
| He might be cutting weight from 190, which is not outrageous. | ||
| Also, Logan Paul's way younger. | ||
| A lot younger. | ||
| Vibrant. | ||
| Well, it's one thing if it was Melvin Manhoof at 36. Yeah. | ||
| Different animal. | ||
| Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's not just being 36, it's learning later in life. | ||
| There's a thing about striking. | ||
| If you're not an explosive person and you learn later in life, man, it seems like it's really difficult. | ||
| The people that seem to pick it up are people who had a little bit of it when they were younger, like a little bit of karate, a little bit of boxing, and they kind of kept the understanding in their head, and then as they retire from other sports, then they start to do it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was that the case with you? | ||
| A little bit, yeah. | ||
| Were you doing any amateur boxing matches or anything like that while you were doing football or before you were doing football? | ||
| I was doing some jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Jiu-jitsu. | ||
| When did you get heavily into striking? | ||
| I would do it to stay in shape during the football season. | ||
| Before the Ultimate Fighter? | ||
| Yeah, before the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| How much striking had you done? | ||
| I just did Golden Gloves, but I only had six months of training. | ||
| Six months? | ||
| Six months of boxing training. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah, see, like, now think about, whoa, look at this, Mike Perry, mean face, and I bowed to him. | ||
| Look at that mean face. | ||
| He looks like, almost like a devil-type character in a movie. | ||
| He looks like Andre Orlovsky, miniature-sized. | ||
| But he looks angry. | ||
| So mean. | ||
| He's probably one of the meanest-looking dudes in the sport. | ||
| He's an intense-looking dude. | ||
| So mean-looking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's becoming more and more comfortable, too, you know? | ||
| That's what you're seeing from him now. | ||
| Dude, there's so much pressure on Cowboy, man. | ||
| So much pressure. | ||
| I just... | ||
| So much. | ||
| I like Mike Perry, but Cowboy's a personal friend, so I'm rooting for Cowboy. | ||
| I feel exactly the same way. | ||
| I'm a personal friend with Cowboy, but I love Mike Perry, too. | ||
| Look, no matter what happens, we're going to see a hell of a fight right now. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Look, I like Cowboy's new haircut, son. | ||
| I'm not mad at it. | ||
| Kind of a mohawk-ish. | ||
| Yeah, a little crazy shaved on the sides, a little patch on the top. | ||
| I like his beard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Looks like a savage. | ||
| I think he had to look savage in this fight. | ||
| You know, you're fighting a savage. | ||
| You better look savage, too. | ||
| Match the savage. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Look at these two. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm nervous. | ||
| Me, too. | ||
| I'm a little nervous. | ||
| There's a few fights that make me nervous. | ||
| Cowboy looks super angry. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| You think Cowboy flips off Winklejohn after he wins? | ||
| I don't know if he does. | ||
| Well, let's say head kick KOs. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That's Cowboy, dude. | ||
| Since I've known Cowboys hate Winklejohn. | ||
| Maybe something to it. | ||
| Let's see what happens here. | ||
| Damn, he looks disciplined. | ||
| Look at Mike Perry striking. | ||
| Hands up high. | ||
| Light on the feet. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, shit. | |
| He's trying to knock him out. | ||
| Look for that big right hand. | ||
| Cowboy's a slow starter, so if I'm Mike Perry's coach and I know Cowboy, I go... | ||
| He likes that elbow off the break, too. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| Cowboy's fucking good in the clinch, though. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Let's see here. | ||
| Well, that's the thing about Cowboy. | ||
| Surprisingly good wrestling. | ||
| He fucks people up with that. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| I've seen him fucking amazing wrestling. | ||
|
unidentified
|
They forget. | |
| They forget because he's got... | ||
| He has a knee pick that he does here. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| He lifts his left arm and knee picks dudes all the time. | ||
| Well, he also, like, he's been... | ||
| That was a nice knee to the body. | ||
| That shit was sharp. | ||
| Oh, Cowboy said he'd trade with you all day. | ||
| But Perry's knee was very good as well, though. | ||
| But, um... | ||
| See, the thing about Cowboy is... | ||
| He seems like a fun guy, right? | ||
| He's always partying and driving around in his jet ski and getting wild. | ||
| Jumping on a plane and shit. | ||
| Yeah, all that stuff. | ||
| So people think, oh, this guy's just wild. | ||
| He's also a seriously skilled fighter. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| A lot of that is a little bit of a smokescreen. | ||
| He's absolutely an adrenaline junkie, but he's a very skilled fighter. | ||
| He's a professional. | ||
| Look at that inside leg kick. | ||
| Just lit up that inside leg. | ||
| He can do it from all angles. | ||
| Yeah, and look, has he had some rough fights? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Against the best in the world, though. | ||
| You're gonna get that. | ||
| This is a crazy-ass fucking sport he's doing. | ||
| He also has over 40 fights. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you're throwing bones at each other at a high velocity. | ||
| You're gonna get some knockouts. | ||
| You're gonna give some, you're gonna get some. | ||
| It's just part of the program. | ||
| But cowboy, look at that. | ||
| Good head movement there. | ||
| Cowboy's still here. | ||
| Dude, I forget how big... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh! | |
| Damn! | ||
| He's biting his mouthpiece and just going forward. | ||
| Because Cowboy's fucking tall. | ||
| I thought Perry was a lot shorter. | ||
| Perry's fucking big. | ||
| I think he's six feet tall. | ||
| Jesus, man. | ||
| He's a tank, too, man. | ||
| He's a tank. | ||
| He's a real thick dude. | ||
| Remember when you used to have his girl in his corner? | ||
| Then he lost. | ||
| He was like, you know what? | ||
| Probably not anymore, huh? | ||
| She was like, rip his head off! | ||
| He can't make 55. Fuck. | ||
| Look how thick he is. | ||
| Cowboy can. | ||
| God, it's tough on Cowboy as he gets older too, dude. | ||
| I mean, maybe Perry can make 55. Maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| Maybe he can kill himself and get like Rumble Johnson used to do. | ||
| He looks great at 70. Damn. | ||
| That lead uppercut is fucking scary. | ||
| It's good, but he's doing it on the outside and Donald's slipping away from it. | ||
| Now, they sparred a lot before. | ||
| They did a lot of sparring before. | ||
| That can kind of fuck up fights. | ||
| Like when I fought Andre Arlovsky, we sparred a bunch together. | ||
| So when we fought, you were super tentative because you knew what the guy was good at, so you wouldn't throw your normal shit. | ||
| So it makes for a more boring fight sometimes. | ||
| In Cowboy's side, though, I think psychologically it probably helps him because he's already fought this guy before. | ||
| And if he did get the better of him in training, it doesn't mean you're dealing with the same Mike Perry. | ||
| I'm sure Mike Perry's way better now, but if they did train... | ||
| And Cowboy did get the best of them, then that shit's probably on both of their minds right now. | ||
| There's just no way it's not. | ||
| And that's a psychological edge that Cowboy would like. | ||
| Oh, side control! | ||
| Cowboy's nasty off his back, man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Look at this, though. | |
| Side control. | ||
| He reminds me a lot of Anthony Pedas off his back, where they're so explosive. | ||
| Even if you know a triangle's coming, they're fucking... | ||
| They're really, really sneaky, man. | ||
| Well, let's see. | ||
| Side control's gonna be tough to do anything. | ||
| This is not somewhere he wants to be. | ||
| Let's see how he gets out of this. | ||
| Cowboy, I don't think he minds this. | ||
| He rolls him. | ||
| I don't think he minds this. | ||
| He rolls him. | ||
| He'll take this all day. | ||
| Oh, that was beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, I encourage the takedown. | ||
| Oh my God, that was beautiful. | ||
| That was beautiful. | ||
| Go to Mount, Cowboy. | ||
| Oh, he's going to smash him. | ||
| He can go to Mount, though. | ||
| But this is the thing that Mike Perry was saying, that he would do to him in the gym. | ||
| And Cowboy's doing it to him right now. | ||
| See, Cowboy's super confident here. | ||
| Cowboy's grappling's phenomenal, man. | ||
| It's phenomenal, but not only that. | ||
| He trapped that arm. | ||
| He can sock him in the fucking face. | ||
| He's been torturing this guy for years, right? | ||
| Or for, not years. | ||
| Maybe a few weeks. | ||
| A couple weeks. | ||
| Maybe a few spa sessions. | ||
| Dude, he has him crucified. | ||
| I made that up. | ||
| What he is doing, though, is exercising some serious confidence in his maneuvers. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He lost it, though. | ||
| He lost the position. | ||
| He lost it. | ||
| He's on his back. | ||
| This isn't bad for Cowboy. | ||
| Cowboy has a great guard, man. | ||
| It seems pretty good so far. | ||
| His guard's tricky. | ||
| He looks like he's trying to bait him with the right arm. | ||
| Cowboy's triangle's fucking filthy, man. | ||
| Ow, knee to the ass pipe. | ||
| Where are you allowed to hit back there? | ||
| Anything goes. | ||
| Anything but the snack. | ||
| As long as you don't hit the scrotum. | ||
| But you're kind of hitting super close to the snack. | ||
| Dude, you're hitting the tank. | ||
| It's like the house next door to you getting bombed on. | ||
| Look at this armbar attempt. | ||
| Oh, he spikes him. | ||
| And he's about to break his arm. | ||
| He's going to hold onto it. | ||
| He's breaking his arm. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's passing over it. | ||
| He's passing over it. | ||
| Oh, cowboy's breaking his fucking arm. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's it! | |
| That's a wrap! | ||
| Fuck yeah, cowboy! | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's a wrap, son! | |
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| That's a wrap, son! | ||
| Fuck yeah, cowboy! | ||
| You know how big of a moment that is for cowboy? | ||
| Didn't take a shot and got an arm bar. | ||
| Didn't take a big shot. | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| Look! | ||
| I was like, come at me, motherfucker! | ||
| I love it! | ||
| Look at this, look at this. | ||
| Talking all that shit. | ||
| You gotta appreciate it, man. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| You get kicked out of your own gym. | ||
| Here comes this kid, too. | ||
| He just had a baby boy. | ||
| I don't think that's what he was doing. | ||
| He was telling his wife to bring his kid up? | ||
| Bring his kid. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| That's phenomenal. | ||
| It wasn't an anger thing. | ||
| That's phenomenal. | ||
| That was he wants his son. | ||
| Oh, my goodness. | ||
| Oh, what a cute little fella. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| Dude, how happy is that guy? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What a great frickin' win for Cowboy. | ||
| He looks so confident, dude. | ||
| Look how confident he looked. | ||
| And I think some of that has to be... | ||
| There's his grandma, too. | ||
| Not just that he's a really good fighter. | ||
| But also that they've sparred before, he knew he had his number. | ||
| He knew he had his number. | ||
| Well, if it went to the ground, especially. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| But he had his number standing up. | ||
| Oh my god, that is cute. | ||
| Even standing up, he didn't get hit with any big shots. | ||
| Yeah, he's moving. | ||
| Dude, he looked smooth as fuck. | ||
| He looked super polished standing up. | ||
| What a big win for Cowboy. | ||
| It looked like he was about to snap his fucking arm, too. | ||
| Hey man, he might have broke it. | ||
| We don't even know. | ||
| I mean, he was on his back. | ||
| Whoosh! | ||
| Cowboy's guard, man. | ||
| Very underrated. | ||
| Gets spiked. | ||
| Does he trap the leg? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Spiking never works, unless you rampage in the 80s. | ||
| Doesn't let go. | ||
| Turns him, and then holds him belly down. | ||
| Gets that arm, and now when he arches his back up, like, dude, there's a ton of fucking torque. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| That arm is in trouble. | ||
| Look at Cowboy's face. | ||
| Look at his grandma right there. | ||
| Dude, his arm might have went sideways. | ||
| Look at this again. | ||
| Look at this from this angle. | ||
| Look at where the arm is. | ||
| He was already tapping. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at where his arm is, though. | ||
| It's almost like he's doing it. | ||
| He's getting it like this way. | ||
| And twerking it. | ||
| Yeah, he's getting it like that way. | ||
| Joint manipulation. | ||
| Yeah, he's not getting it like this. | ||
| It looked like he wasn't getting it like this straight and that way. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Like to the side. | ||
| Yeah, it looked like it was almost like this. | ||
| That'll rip your shit apart, man. | ||
| That's tremendous. | ||
| What a big win for Cowboy. | ||
| Again, I like Mike Perry. | ||
| It has nothing to do with Mike Perry. | ||
| I just know Cowboy's career, what he's been through. | ||
| He had a baby. | ||
| He gets kicked out of his gym. | ||
| His back's against the wall. | ||
| He loses this one. | ||
| Everyone's telling him to retire. | ||
| It's fucking Donald Cerrone, man. | ||
| He looked goddamn good, too. | ||
| Hell yeah, he looked good. | ||
| And the fact that he came to them and said, Hey, I don't think it's fair that you guys train this guy. | ||
| You know, it just doesn't make any sense. | ||
| We've been together forever. | ||
| And they said, okay, well, we're going to talk it through and have a meeting. | ||
| And then they come back after the meeting and go, yeah, we're going to train him. | ||
| You can't come here anymore. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| But also, would it have him win? | ||
| The interesting thing, too, is, you know, Cowboy, they go, is Greg Jackson going to corner you next fight? | ||
| He goes, yeah, just not this one. | ||
| Dude, did you see this shit? | ||
| Yeah, that movie looks dope as shit. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| Overlord. | ||
| Dude, this shit looks so good. | ||
| I've been seeing tons of people talk about it today. | ||
| I said it's really good. | ||
| Oh, is it out already? | ||
| It came out this week. | ||
| Oh my god, it looks so good. | ||
| It used to be a video game, right? | ||
| No, I don't think it has anything to do with it. | ||
| I think so, dude. | ||
| Am I crazy? | ||
| I'm thinking Wolfenstein. | ||
| It definitely could have been a video game. | ||
| It might be a video game, though, still. | ||
| If it's not, they fucked up. | ||
| Do you remember Wolfenstein? | ||
| Why would they make it a video game with the release? | ||
| I know! | ||
| People would play the shit out of that. | ||
| I was balls deep in Waffenstein as a kid. | ||
| Can you imagine what has to come into place to make a video game? | ||
| Like, imagine if you have a movie, and you go, man, we gotta make a video game to get this movie, like, to come out with it. | ||
| It'd be the perfect video game. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Overlord Film Review, great video game movie that's not based on a video game movie. | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
| I figured it was a video game. | ||
| The name Overlord, the poster looks like a fucking Wolfenstein. | ||
| That is so ridiculously funny. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| That's so funny it hurts my feelings. | ||
| Yeah, man, that's what it seemed like. | ||
| It seemed like a video game. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Dude, look at Cowboy. | ||
| He's so happy. | ||
| How can he not be? | ||
| Your son's there chewing on a monster can. | ||
| Shout out to Monster. | ||
| Don't let the son actually get that monster into his little system. | ||
| Yeah, no, that would not be good. | ||
| Can you imagine that? | ||
| He gets a hold of that. | ||
| And it's open, too. | ||
| And it looks like all's good in the end. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| I'll say hi to him when I see him and congratulate him. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| Dude, what a big one in his hometown, man. | ||
| So happy for him. | ||
| That was a stressful one. | ||
| Here's the thing, though, man. | ||
| He looked good as fuck. | ||
| It wasn't just that he won. | ||
| Dude, he looked smooth. | ||
| How about Paul Felder trains at Jackson's, too? | ||
| He knows what's going on. | ||
| Most wins UFC history. | ||
| Paul's with Duke. | ||
| He was at Jackson's forever. | ||
| Was he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Before that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Before Duke? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, he loves Duke. | ||
| He loves Duke. | ||
| Look at that powerful Joe Schilling. | ||
| His grandma's shaking, man. | ||
| With Donald. | ||
| Dude, how cool is it? | ||
| Your son's there. | ||
| So happy. | ||
| Look how fucking happy he is. | ||
| Look at that fucking animal. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| I wonder what Cowboy's saying. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, he's a guy that, like, man, look at that resume. | ||
| Cowboy, Hall of Famer, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's on some big fights, won big fights, but most finishes in UFC history, most wins in UFC history, Hall of Famer. | ||
| Yeah, even if he never wins a title, he's a Hall of Famer. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| He's the one guy, I think he passes your eyes, the one guy who never won a title that... | ||
| It becomes more popular, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, Uriah's been thinking about getting back in there. | ||
| No. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| No, the game's passed you by, dude. | ||
| He gets bored, man. | ||
| He has so much shit going on. | ||
| He's like, you just shot a movie. | ||
| He's healing up, and he's thinking about it. | ||
| No, it's a bad idea. | ||
| How about they ditch the flyweights? | ||
| This is super impressive, man. | ||
| What Cowboy did? | ||
| It's super impressive that he never let it go. | ||
| That was tight as shit. | ||
| Dude, slamming is old school, but yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but it's the way in the transition. | ||
| For sure, to stay on it. | ||
| Yeah, because even when Mike was doing the right thing by passing over the top, it looked like he was almost out. | ||
| But the wrist control that he had, that Cowboy had, and keeping it in the position where he wanted it. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And then the squeeze. | ||
| I think there's a, like, again, him and Anthony Pettis are guys when it goes to the ground, because people think of him as knockout artists, which they are in their great stand-up, but Anthony Pettis and him on the ground are fucking tricky, man, from their back. | ||
| Most people aren't from their back, but Pettis and him from their back is nasty. | ||
| They both dive on shit real quick, too. | ||
| It's explosive, man. | ||
| It's basic stuff, but it's explosive. | ||
| Cowboy started off with Muay Thai. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look how quick that is. | ||
| That's so pretty. | ||
| Muay Thai with Dwayne Ludwig. | ||
| That's so pretty. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| The slam and tightening. | ||
| I would like to see that. | ||
| Oh, look how he's got that trapped in like that. | ||
| Yo, he's fucking that elbow up. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to be sore tomorrow. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Woo! | |
| He had a tap. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| Like you were saying, it's a tough loss for Mike Perry because you want to see where he's at, right? | ||
| Because of the guys that he's beat. | ||
| You do see where he's at, though. | ||
| Donald's a step ahead of him. | ||
| At least. | ||
| At least a step. | ||
| Maybe more. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But Mike Perry looked better than he's ever looked before. | ||
| And he's just fighting the guy who's the best guy he's ever fought before. | ||
| And when Mike Perry moves in, he moves in with his hands up high, his chins tucked, his techniques on point. | ||
| He's not done. | ||
| No, definitely not done. | ||
| I don't even mean in his career. | ||
| I mean in his progress. | ||
| He's going to get better and better. | ||
| Yeah, he just got the Jacksons. | ||
| And already, from beating Paul Felder, he even looked better as a fighter against Cowboy. | ||
| So the next one, maybe just don't give him the caliber of Cowboy. | ||
| He's not there yet. | ||
| Well, people sleep on Cowboy Man. | ||
| They forget. | ||
| They think for some reason he's done. | ||
| But just because he got knocked out by Darren Till and then lost to Leon Roberts. | ||
| Leon Roberts is a really good fighter. | ||
| Is it Roberts or Edwards? | ||
| Did I say Edwards or Robert? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Now I'm confused. | ||
| It is Edwards, right? | ||
| It's Edwards, right? | ||
| Leon Roberts or Edwards that fought Cowboy? | ||
| Cowboy's last fight. | ||
| Edwards. | ||
| I said Roberts. | ||
| It's all good, dude. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Damn. | |
| I've had four beers. | ||
| Sorry, Leon. | ||
| Sorry, Leon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got a contact high. | ||
| Dude, doing sober October, did you get fucked up right away after? | ||
| Sorry to Leon Edwards. | ||
| But my point was, yeah, we got fucked up. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Do you get more fucked up now because you took 30 days off? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| It seems exactly the same. | ||
| You on November now? | ||
| No, it's supposed to be no remember November. | ||
| No, it's no nut November. | ||
| Yeah, maybe in your weird camp. | ||
| Not my fucking camp. | ||
| Hell not. | ||
| I have no camp with that, bro. | ||
| All your fashion lovers get together. | ||
| Hell not. | ||
| There's no nut November here. | ||
| I'm trying to get rid of these loads. | ||
| I'm not trying to keep them around. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Bus nuts November? | |
| Bus loads December? | ||
| I remember hearing about tantric sex. | ||
| Tantric sex makes sex better. | ||
| Oh, what is this? | ||
| Crazy commercial. | ||
| Great Raptor, though. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Forrest Griffin. | ||
| Still doing the damn thing. | ||
| Dude, how about T.J. vs. | ||
| Cejudo? | ||
| But at 25. Well, it doesn't make sense that it's going to be at 25. Why would they do that? | ||
| The UFC's really going to get rid of the flyweight division. | ||
| They're done. | ||
| That seems strange. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Why wouldn't Cejudo come up? | ||
| Because I guess T.J. wants to be a double champ and that's the last fight? | ||
| But it's for a belt that's for a division that's not around anymore. | ||
| Well, maybe they decided to do it because of the historical implications. | ||
| Because if T.J. can drop down and beat him... | ||
| He's the last champ? | ||
| Yeah, he's the last champ and he wins the title in two divisions. | ||
| Unless he wants to go up to 45, you know, and then if he does, maybe he builds up after a while and goes up to 45 for a few fights. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| There's not a whole lot for him. | ||
| Well, there's some good fights for him at 45. For sure. | ||
| 45 is going to be a tough one for him. | ||
| It's going to be tough. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| 35, there's still some fights. | ||
| Marlon Marais is right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Jimmy Rivera just won his last one. | ||
| 35 is his natural weight class. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But if he's working with that... | ||
| What's that guy's name? | ||
| What is his crazy strength and conditioning? | ||
| Salamita, is that his name? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| What is TJ Dillashaw? | ||
| Jamie's searching for it. | ||
| That sounds great. | ||
| Goddammit, I hate when that marijuana clouds my memory and ruins my argument. | ||
| But I have no excuse. | ||
| You got hotbox, son. | ||
| Oh, there we go. | ||
| I'm contact tight. | ||
| This stuff is strong. | ||
| Secondhand smoke. | ||
| TJ Versa, who does a good fight, though? | ||
| It's a very good fight. | ||
| Can't find his strength and conditioning coach? | ||
| It's all good. | ||
| Oh yeah, Sam Calavita. | ||
| Calavita. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| What did I say? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Something close to that. | |
| I said Salamita. | ||
| It's fucking close, dude. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because there's a comic named Fran Salamita. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| So spell it. | ||
| K-A-L-A-V-I-T-T-A. Calavita. | ||
| Calavita? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Calavita. | |
| Calavita. | ||
| Yeah, he hasn't fought in a grip. | ||
| TJ raves about this guy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You know, when he first started working with him, he didn't want to tell me his name because he didn't want to get him out on the podcast. | ||
| He goes, I don't want everyone working with him. | ||
| I'm not going to say his name. | ||
| I'm like, dude, come on. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| That's interesting, but probably accurate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's probably accurate. | ||
| You find out about a scientist out there that's just doing it for the art. | ||
| Gives you a huge advantage? | ||
| Yeah, I mean this guy seems like he knows so much about performance. | ||
| So now him and TJ have that, they went on that gym, Munoz, and it's him, right? | ||
| And then that's got Aaron Pico there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That little fucking monster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Aaron Pico is terrifying. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| That left hook that he KO'd that dude with. | ||
| Biggest prospect in MMA. It was like a shovel hook, like a left uppercut. | ||
| His body shots? | ||
| Nasty. | ||
| But that one to the chin where the dude was out cold and just fell back, like Jesus. | ||
| He takes shots, he just doesn't respect his opponents because he fucks up world-class guys all the time in the gym. | ||
| So when they give him like, oh, here's Larry, he's 4-0, he's like, fuck a Larry, and just walk forward. | ||
| But they say in the gym, against some of the best guys in the world, he starches them. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| That is such a nasty hook, man. | ||
| And it's so perfectly placed. | ||
| Under the right arm. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Dude, that is crazy. | ||
| Can I see that one more time? | ||
| Do it from the beginning. | ||
| Look how slick this is. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He sees the right hand coming and he hooks under it and right on the chin. | ||
| And just slides away from him. | ||
| They're doing right by him because they're not throwing him to the wolves right away. | ||
| You know, like if he was in the UFC, he'd be fighting fucking top ten guys right away. | ||
| Yeah, look at that nasty left hook to the fucking liver right there. | ||
| He's knocked two guys out to the body now. | ||
| Oh man, liver shots are horrific. | ||
| Nothing you can do. | ||
| Might be worse than getting knocked out. | ||
| There's literally nothing you can do. | ||
| Kid's a tank too. | ||
| And a super high level wrestler. | ||
| Wrestler and boxer. | ||
| Yeah, everything. | ||
| He can do it all. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| Freddie Roach has cornered two MMA fighters. | ||
| Him and GSP. So there must be something special about that fucking kid. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Damn. | |
| And, you know, I like the story that he lost his first fight. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I was hyping up so much on you. | ||
| I was working that fight. | ||
| But that's a cold, hard reminder. | ||
| Well, I ask Scott Coker, I go, why would you give him that big fucking dude? | ||
| He goes, Brendan, we ask guys you would know, vets, and they would not fight him. | ||
| He's like, there's like this mythical fucking aura about this kid. | ||
| No one wants to fight him. | ||
| This is the only guy we could find. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| It was a terrible match for him. | ||
| He's fucking 7-0, bigger guy, two weight classes up. | ||
| It was a bad idea. | ||
| Also, Pico's never fought before and fights at Mass Square Garden in his first fight. | ||
| I didn't know the guy was that much bigger than him. | ||
| I just thought the guy just caught him with a shot. | ||
| The guy was a lot bigger. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot bigger dude. | ||
| Bad idea. | ||
| But what did the guy weigh in at? | ||
| I mean, they weighed in the same, but his original weight class is higher up. | ||
| Yeah, he's a bigger fighter. | ||
| But they just thought Aaron was so special, he'd fucking starch him. | ||
| Well, didn't the dude have a marginal record, like he'd only fought once? | ||
| He was 7-0. | ||
| Was he really? | ||
| Pretty sure he was 7-0. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pico's, you know, 0-0. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know that. | ||
| I didn't know he was 7-0. | ||
| No, yeah, I was like, because I asked Coker, you know, who's great, and I go, why the fuck would you do that? | ||
| He goes, Brendan, it's the only guy who would take this fight. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I guess he knew something. | ||
| Yeah, I guess. | ||
| What's homeboy's name? | ||
| Who he lost to? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I forget. | ||
| But it's crazy. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Zach Freeman. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's right. | |
| Zach Freeman. | ||
| He's 7-0, right? | ||
| He's probably 8-0 now. | ||
| Unless he lost one since then. | ||
| That was a while ago. | ||
| He's 9-3 now. | ||
| Yeah, he's lost... | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't know. | |
| Pull up the thing so we can see it. | ||
| Two losses before he fought Aaron Pico. | ||
| So what was his record when he fought Pico? | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| Must have been 8-2. | ||
| Or 7-2. | ||
| 7-2. | ||
| Okay, so he lost to Sad Awad. | ||
| That guy's fucking good. | ||
| But still, when he fought Pico, he was 7-2. | ||
| So nine fights? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Mm-hmm. | |
| That's a shitload for a guy zero. | ||
| So he's seven and two. | ||
| A lot of experience. | ||
| I think this guy was 0-0 was my point. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Fucking nuts, man. | ||
| And, you know, fighting in Madison Square Garden, first debut, you know, you only get one debut. | ||
| It's a big deal. | ||
| You're young. | ||
| A lot of pressure. | ||
| You're on TV. Everyone knows how good you are. | ||
| And the other guy's good. | ||
| And you got caught. | ||
| You get some dickhead in a suit and tie in the boxing. | ||
| You're the next LeBron James of the MMA. His name's Brendan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
They just fill your butthole with smoke. | |
| They just take your butt and go... | ||
| I still believe it, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a balloon, son. | ||
| You ever see Franco Columbo make a hot water bottle explode by blowing into it? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's what people were doing to his butt. | ||
| Old school, man. | ||
| He's blowing smoke deep up his butt. | ||
| Dude, I was one of those guys when I stand by it. | ||
| But he was right. | ||
| You were right. | ||
| It was a lesson, and it's just part of being a human being in competition. | ||
| Look at Franco Columbo. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Jacked. | |
| Jacked. | ||
| He would blow up a hot water bottle. | ||
| That's how strong his fucking lungs were. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Dude! | |
| Until it would explode. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Look how many people are watching that bullshit. | ||
| This lady's like, oh my god, I can't believe it. | ||
| Do you know how fucking strong your lungs have to be to make this happen? | ||
| Like, look at them heaving. | ||
| You know you have nothing else going on if you attended this live? | ||
| That guy is a tank of a human. | ||
| That's some old school Italian Neanderthal genes. | ||
| That's some old school entertainment. | ||
| God, look at those dime pieces. | ||
| I bet, look at that hot chick. | ||
| Sylvester Stallone! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes! | |
| Come on, do it! | ||
| That's the Arnold set. | ||
| Dude, they were jacked. | ||
| When I watch Pumpin' Iron, I get sad that I wasn't back then hanging out with them. | ||
| They looked like they were just doing steroids, fucking girls, weed, Venice Beach. | ||
| Jacked. | ||
| It wasn't all the bums. | ||
| They're just lifting every day. | ||
| It's fucking gold. | ||
| Just getting jacked. | ||
| Yeah, that's all you care about. | ||
| Jacks and bitches. | ||
| And probably like at a level that nobody had done before the steroids, right? | ||
| So the steroids came along and all of a sudden the party got started. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at everyone they're hanging out with. | ||
| You know what I gotta tell you though. | ||
| Here's what's weird. | ||
| If you look at Arnold right there, he's Mr. Olympia. | ||
| Obviously jacked as fuck. | ||
| But... | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Nowhere near as big as any of the big guys that you see today. | ||
| We're talking about different steroids. | ||
| Well, it's not just that. | ||
| HGH came along in steroids. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| They just want to continue to get bigger. | ||
| There should really be a time, and it's hard to figure out when that time is, where you really don't want to get any bigger. | ||
| You just want to get more sculpted and more ripped and more... | ||
| You want to get more proportionate so that everything looks right, whether it's your calves or your... | ||
| I don't know jack shit. | ||
| That's why they're saying Ronnie Coleman kind of fucked everything up. | ||
| Frank Zane. | ||
| Frank, yeah. | ||
| They used to love Frank Zane, even though he was smaller than those guys. | ||
| Flex Wheeler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unbelievable symmetry. | ||
| They said Ronnie Coleman came along and was like, oh, cool story, and just was like, and they said he just fucked everything up because he's so massive. | ||
| Well, even before him, Dorian Yates. | ||
| Dorian Yates was a giant. | ||
| That motherfucker was huge. | ||
| Was he tall? | ||
| No. | ||
| He was shorter. | ||
| See, Ronnie was tall. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Taller for a bodybuilder. | ||
| He's taller than me. | ||
| Dorian's taller than me, but I don't think he's six feet tall. | ||
| Maybe he's six feet tall. | ||
| But anyway, in his prime, he was massive. | ||
| I mean, massive. | ||
| We're talking Ronnie Coleman massive? | ||
| He was pretty fucking big, man. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Really? | |
| You ever see Dorian Yates' prime? | ||
| Yeah, I see his picture at Gold. | ||
| He's jacked. | ||
| I don't know enough to say who was the first guy to get super jacked like that, but he was the first Mr. Olympia that I remember seeing going, what the fuck kind of steroids are they using now? | ||
| And he talked about, he's like super open about his full cycle. | ||
| Oh really? | ||
| Oh yeah, man. | ||
| He did my podcast. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| Have you seen the Ronnie Coleman doc on Netflix? | ||
| I haven't. | ||
| I heard it's awesome. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| It'll bum me out. | ||
| It'll bum me out and go, you know what? | ||
| I'm never squatting heavy ever again. | ||
| Oh, his back is destroyed, right? | ||
| Two hip replacements, back's fucked, and he has to have crutches, and he's in constant pain now. | ||
| Constant pain. | ||
| Taking fucking opiates every day. | ||
| Didn't he have multiple back surgeries? | ||
| Multiple back surgeries, fused, pinched nerves. | ||
| Okay, Dorian now is like... | ||
| He looks like me now. | ||
| He looks like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, he was jack city. | ||
| Jack city. | ||
| He ain't got shit on Ronnie, though. | ||
| See him on stage, though. | ||
| That's a picture. | ||
| He was bigger than that. | ||
| Look at the far left. | ||
| The far left up there. | ||
| Look at the size of that motherfucker. | ||
| Dude, look at the size of him. | ||
| He was fucking huge, man. | ||
| And shredded. | ||
| I wonder how big he was. | ||
| Worked harder than anybody, man. | ||
| Goddamn, he was huge. | ||
| They were all on the steroids, for sure. | ||
| The steroids? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Them steroids? | ||
| They were all on all the steroids. | ||
| But for sure, that motherfucker worked hard. | ||
| As hard, if not hard, than any human being lifting weights. | ||
| Phil Heath was jacked too. | ||
| Okay, here's the question. | ||
| Phil Heath lost his last competition. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at those two. | ||
| How do you decide which one is more jacked? | ||
| That is insane to me. | ||
| That don't make any sense. | ||
| I look at those two and I go, ah! | ||
| You'd have to have an eye for it, right? | ||
| It'd have to be your thing. | ||
| Yeah, you're a jeweler. | ||
| You gotta go over that shit with a jeweler's glass. | ||
| Look for cut, cult, clarity, and the tube carrots. | ||
| Yeah, for reals. | ||
|
unidentified
|
For reals. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| You gotta be an expert. | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
| Two of the greatest backs in history? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| That looks like Ronnie top left. | ||
| I think it's the same two, yeah. | ||
| That's Ronnie Coleman on the top left, or is that Phil Heath? | ||
| I think that's Dorian Yates. | ||
| Yeah, that's Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman. | ||
| Ronnie Coleman's ass is out of control. | ||
| But are you saying it's Phil Heath? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that's Ronnie Coleman. | ||
| It's Ronnie Coleman? | ||
| I know Ronnie's ass. | ||
| Oh, wow, strong. | ||
| I know a Ronnie ass. | ||
| That's a Ronnie fucking... | ||
| Look at his lats. | ||
| Look at, they look like they're on a supermarket shelf covered in saran wrap. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It doesn't look like he has any fat. | ||
| They look like ribs. | ||
| Like baby back ribs that you put barbecue on. | ||
| It looks like he could... | ||
| Look at Doreen Yates. | ||
| It looks like he could pull your head right through your back. | ||
| Grab your head with your spinal column attached and just pull it out. | ||
| Like the movie Prometheus? | ||
| Yeah, just leave a hole where your cord used to be. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Here's the thing, though. | ||
| Doreen Yates got that flat ass compared to Ronnie. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa! | |
| Flatty. | ||
| What are you flatty like a white girl in the valley? | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
| I saw a giant booty. | ||
| Let me see that picture again. | ||
| That picture is side by side? | ||
| It was part of a different one. | ||
| Was it part of an article? | ||
| It was like one of these small onesies. | ||
| Oh, that's Phil. | ||
| Can't you just hit the back button in the browser? | ||
| I tried that. | ||
| It didn't work. | ||
| Can't you type in Dorian Yates vs. | ||
| Ronnie Coleman? | ||
| Back, big booty, or no. | ||
| Glutes? | ||
| Probably glutes is the proper term. | ||
| How about just type in Dorian Yates, big booty, or nah? | ||
| Right there. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Come on, bro. | ||
| Okay, but he's sucking that in, man. | ||
| Sucking one in. | ||
| He's pulling his back out and sucking his butt in. | ||
| And then Ronnie Coleman's pulling the G-string. | ||
| His hungry butt is eating those underwear. | ||
| Dude, look at that ass. | ||
| First of all, there's no reason to wear those shorts, boys. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Ever. | |
| We get it. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| We know you have a beautiful ass. | ||
|
unidentified
|
We don't need to see your asshole. | |
| But at a certain point in time, your shorts are too little. | ||
| Dude, flat ass. | ||
| Little butt. | ||
| He's a little butt. | ||
| What? | ||
| He's a little butt. | ||
| Yeah, no look at Ronnie's fucking... | ||
| Is that Ronnie on the right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes! | |
| Oh my god, Ronnie's so big. | ||
| Flexing on him, son! | ||
| Look at that peach. | ||
| I take it back. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| I take back what I said. | ||
| I can tell the difference. | ||
| But I can't, though. | ||
| I can't there. | ||
| Go larger again. | ||
| Go larger again. | ||
| Ronnie all day. | ||
| Look at his lower back. | ||
| What is going on there? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| They're both fucking insane. | ||
| The difference really to me is from the waist down. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| But Ronnie's legs are spread out. | ||
| See, okay. | ||
| Now it's different. | ||
| But still, Ronnie's legs are crazy. | ||
| Dude, we're talking about Ronnie's asshole. | ||
| Look at his buttocks. | ||
| Look at his buttocks. | ||
| He's got extra inches of buttocks. | ||
| Ooh, Korean Zombie just fucking looked like he'd do his ACL. Oh, it just started. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| We're looking at male buttocks. | ||
| He did have a flat ass, though. | ||
| Ronnie Coleman's got an enormous ass, dude. | ||
| I know, dude. | ||
| Keep that up, Jamie. | ||
| Keep that shit up, bro. | ||
| Make it bigger. | ||
| No, keep that up. | ||
| That last picture. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Yeah, find a bet. | ||
| Get him bending over, can you? | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| That's plenty. | ||
| Dude, look at his ass, dude. | ||
| That's outrageous. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| That's outrageous. | ||
| Outrageous. | ||
| Let me see that last picture, Jamie. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Dornier's got that flat ass. | ||
| Look at the size of Ronnie Coleman's muscles. | ||
| Dude, it's ridiculous. | ||
| His leg muscles look like he could fucking kick through a building. | ||
| Dude, look at how How thick his back is. | ||
| Right, okay, here's the question. | ||
| Now his back's destroyed, his hips destroyed, his knees are destroyed. | ||
| Do you think that they did things differently? | ||
| They said Ronnie did. | ||
| When you watch The Doctor, like they have everyone who he competed against, even Jay Cutler, they go, dude, we would train with Ronnie sometimes, and no one wanted to train with him because he would just do things we wouldn't do. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Like 800-pound squats all the fucking time. | ||
| Look at the size of him. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| All the bodybuilders say he's the biggest freak ever. | ||
| How strong he was, too. | ||
| They said he just... | ||
| The amount of work you do inside that weight room was insane. | ||
| The crazy thing was when he was a cop. | ||
| Oh, Yair Rodriguez with the beautiful leg kicks inside and then outside. | ||
| You imagine getting pulled over by him for weed? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| You have fucking more illegal drugs in your system than me. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| You'd be like, what are we talking about here? | ||
| Come on, dude. | ||
| Let me go, right? | ||
| That would be ironic. | ||
| It'd be hilarious. | ||
| That would be super ironic. | ||
| Because that guy's on illegal drugs. | ||
| Like, literally. | ||
| You can't get that big without him. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| Dude, Jake Cutler in these interviews, he just... | ||
| I don't know if... | ||
| I don't want to hate on the guy. | ||
| Then don't. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not going to. | ||
| It's hard not to, right? | ||
| God. | ||
| Get a couple beers in ya? | ||
| Hater 8 came out! | ||
| You start wanting to talk shit? | ||
| Damn, Jay Cutler's giant too. | ||
| Jay Cutler beat him when he's going for number 9, right? | ||
| And everyone thought Ronnie Coleman shouldn't have done 9. Should've stopped at 8. Fucking Phil Heath, my boy Phil Heath lost the last one. | ||
| Who won the last one? | ||
| Who's Mr. Olympian? | ||
| Never heard of him. | ||
| A guy who they compare to Flex Wheeler, right? | ||
| He's a smaller, thinner dude. | ||
| When I say thin... | ||
| I can't tell how many of these are photoshopped or not. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Wait a minute, is that real? | ||
| Go back to that last picture you just picked up. | ||
| Jesus Christ, make that bigger. | ||
| What the fuck, dude? | ||
| There are a couple that are definitely photoshopped, but that one doesn't look like that. | ||
| That one looks real. | ||
| Dude, that guy looks like a video game character. | ||
| This one looks photoshopped. | ||
| Yeah, that looks photoshopped. | ||
| Green Zombie's kind of piecing up Yair while we're talking about asses. | ||
| Oh man, so Yair was teeing off on him just a moment ago. | ||
| Was he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, who won 2018 Olympia? | ||
| This guy. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| I'm pretty sure it was. | ||
| He's not Flex Wheeler at all. | ||
| It's giant-ass thighs, but he looks normal-sized there. | ||
| Dude, his abs are black. | ||
| Isn't that weird? | ||
| Yeah, they look like insects. | ||
| How come that's okay, but Blackface isn't? | ||
| Well, I think that guy's black, Joe. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| Yeah, he's black. | ||
| But everybody does that. | ||
| White guys do that, too. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They all do that. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Is he black? | ||
| Well, if he's black, why did he look so whiter in that photo when he was doing most muscular? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay, close in on that gentleman. | ||
| The upper left-hand corner. | ||
| Upper left-hand corner, like you had before. | ||
| The image in the upper left-hand corner. | ||
| Keep scrolling up. | ||
| All the way up? | ||
| That one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might be African-American, but we should probably pay attention. | ||
| What do you think he is, Jamie? | ||
| What's his nationality? | ||
|
unidentified
|
That guy? | |
| I'm not talking about that guy. | ||
| That's the same guy. | ||
| That's the guy with the black abs. | ||
| No, that's not him, is it? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| He's not black. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or if he is, he's very light. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, they are allowed to wear that stuff that makes your skin look dark. | ||
| So you can see the muscles better. | ||
| Right, but they get to a point where it's literally... | ||
| It's blackface. | ||
| It's black body. | ||
| Also face though. | ||
| He's from Egypt. | ||
| Okay, so he's from Northern Africa. | ||
| But he's much lighter in those images. | ||
| Mohab. | ||
| It doesn't make sense if that one of them has an accurate, the one that most muscular that you just put up, if that's an accurate skin tone color. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| Oh my God, he's huge. | ||
|
unidentified
|
God, dog. | |
| What? | ||
| That one picture where you see his whole body? | ||
| That doesn't even look like a real person. | ||
| He has an ass on him, too. | ||
| That Egyptian ass, bro. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| That dude. | ||
| How mad are people that we're talking about asses and not fights? | ||
| That dude looks like science. | ||
| Oh, Korean Zombie with a straight left. | ||
| So he won the thing? | ||
| This dude from Egypt? | ||
| I believe so, yeah. | ||
| Damn, he beat Phil Heath. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| He's a beast, man. | ||
| And you know fucking... | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this beautiful scramble here. | ||
| Great transition. | ||
| Oh, look at a double tap on the face by a Korean Zombie. | ||
| I think Ty Green just stopped doing the Olympia because he thought it was rigged, so he's like, fuck this, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He'd be a good guy to get on the podcast. | ||
| Interesting dude. | ||
| Why do they think it's rigged? | ||
| Kai Greene, he had some- Jesus Christ! | ||
| Goddamn! | ||
| Big Ramy? | ||
| Did you say his name Ramy? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| What is his full name? | ||
| I tried pronouncing it. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| Let me go back to it. | ||
| Let me try to pronounce it. | ||
| You're much better at names than me. | ||
| Mamadou? | ||
| I don't want to fuck this up. | ||
| Mamadou Elsbae? | ||
| No Mamadou. | ||
| Let's listen to someone say it. | ||
| Mamadou Elsbae? | ||
| I don't want to fuck it up, man. | ||
| God, I sound so authentic, though, I feel like. | ||
| 5'10", 310 pounds, contest weight. | ||
| 5'10"? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
He's thick. | |
| Come on, son. | ||
| That's a thick dude. | ||
| Special type of girl into that. | ||
| But white guys. | ||
| Like, regular white guys. | ||
| Like, who's the famous white guy? | ||
| The big guy. | ||
| Gunther? | ||
| Remember him? | ||
| He would compete with Ronnie Coleman, those guys? | ||
| No. | ||
| His name was Gunther. | ||
| He was a giant Swede. | ||
| He looked like fucking Colossal from X-Men. | ||
| But you'd go chocolate face. | ||
| Dude, they get chocolate. | ||
| But you can't. | ||
| Jay Cutler went chocolate. | ||
| Jay Cutler's so tan. | ||
| Girls do it, too. | ||
| And we just accept it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's full chocolate body, though. | ||
| It's full chocolate body and chocolate face. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah! | |
| It's like, as long as you go full chocolate, you can go chocolate feet. | ||
| As long as you're flexing, they don't give a fuck. | ||
| But you have to go everywhere. | ||
| You can't have, like, one side chocolate and one side not. | ||
| Like, half face. | ||
|
unidentified
|
No, dude. | |
| Trying to win or not? | ||
| Well, not only that, like, it's not legal. | ||
| You have to pretend you're one color. | ||
| Yeah, you do. | ||
| Either I accept the fact that you're in chocolate body and chocolate face. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| It's just his bodybuild horrible fake tan mistakes. | ||
| I think that might be real. | ||
| He went leave my face, bro. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, he just decided. | ||
| He went chocolate body. | ||
| How's that not racist? | ||
| He was a really progressive bodybuilder and he couldn't go blackface. | ||
| It's the intent though, isn't it? | ||
| Go back to that picture. | ||
| He went chocolate body, but his face didn't touch it. | ||
| You can't give him a medal. | ||
| It looks like he smudged it a little. | ||
| You can't give him a medal. | ||
| Like he pretended he rolled around in the dirt. | ||
| You can't give him a medal, bro. | ||
| Yeah, man, he's going to win because he went only chocolate body, which is totally socially acceptable. | ||
| He totally didn't go chocolate face. | ||
| Dude, chocolate body? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Look at this! | |
| They're literally spray tanning these people. | ||
| That's exactly what they're doing. | ||
| They are turning that guy black. | ||
| Go back there. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| But he keeps the face? | ||
| Is this real? | ||
| This can't be real. | ||
| That's before he went out. | ||
| This cannot be real. | ||
| That's before he went out. | ||
| He's like, you motherfuckers are not taking a picture of me with blackface on. | ||
| Let's just show how ridiculous this is. | ||
| Let's just call it chocolate face. | ||
| What's going on there? | ||
| The guy's getting chocolate on his face. | ||
| Pure chocolate. | ||
| I mean, I know he doesn't want to be racist, and I'm not saying they are racist. | ||
| There's no intent there to be racist. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| If from this conversation, what the fuck is that guy doing? | ||
| That's bronze. | ||
| He gets his body bronze up to the neck, and then he leaves it alone. | ||
| What is happening there? | ||
| That's right before I went out on... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| Just imagine. | ||
| If because of this conversation, we bring a rareness to chocolate face, which is essentially a socially acceptable version of blackface. | ||
| We're basically... | ||
| Look at this guy! | ||
| You need to go to jail, sir! | ||
| It's like the biggest tool in the world. | ||
| You don't look like that, sir. | ||
| Look at the gyno. | ||
| Listen, forget all that. | ||
| You don't look better when you do that. | ||
| You just look insane. | ||
| You have a black man's skin color and you have blonde, spiky hair. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| What am I looking at? | ||
| How hard he worked to look this way? | ||
| Dude, I'm looking at a puzzle. | ||
| I'm like, what is that? | ||
| He's looking at a hot mess. | ||
| I'm like, what is that puzzle? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, fuck, man. | |
| Ooh, Yair with a nice head kick. | ||
| Maybe we should pay attention to this awesome fight. | ||
| Dude, that white guy looks good on the left. | ||
| There's no reason to go chocolate-bodied. | ||
| Same guy? | ||
| No, no, no, but that's... | ||
| That's one guy dolled up and the other just natural. | ||
| Listen, man, I get it. | ||
| Black eyes look better. | ||
| You're just going to have to deal with that. | ||
| You're going to see the muscle fiber. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Just be white, dude. | ||
| Chocolate-bodied. | ||
| Why is it okay? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Why is Chocolate Body accepted? | |
| Are we the first ones to ever say this? | ||
| No, I'm sure. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Chocolate Body? | |
| I think we might be the first to call it Chocolate Body, and I think that shit's going to stick. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh! | |
| Powerful spinning elbow by Yair. | ||
| Yair looking for the sweep. | ||
| But think about fighters tan, too. | ||
| They try to get real tan. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yair keeps looking for that hip toss. | |
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| Fighters get tanned, but George St. Pierre did. | ||
| But you know, there's actually... | ||
| George got yellow. | ||
| It was actually, there's an actual benefit, like in terms of your performance, the increased vitamin D from getting tanned. | ||
| Like, I think Steve Maxwell told me about this, that they did some studies. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Lost position. | ||
| These boys are scrapping. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I believe Steve Maxwell told me that there's physical benefits to getting tanned. | ||
| Being out in the sun. | ||
| Yeah, well, not just that. | ||
| While you're tan and your body's jacked up on vitamin D from the exposure to the sun, even, I think, probably not as good, but better than nothing, exposure to a tanning bed. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That actually can benefit you. | ||
| It's really crazy that your body makes a vitamin. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Based off getting sun rays? | ||
| Well, there's other ways to get it dietarily, but most of the way you get it, staring at the sun. | ||
| Or being in the sun. | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| How bizarre is that? | ||
| God, I wish one of these two went chocolate body. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine if a guy fought in the UFC chocolate body and he's like, bro, I gotta get contracts. | ||
| I wanna look ripped. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You couldn't say anything. | ||
| I see how guys who are fortunate enough to have more melanin in their skin, they look better, they get more contracts. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| You can't hold that shit back for me. | ||
| Like, you remember when Chuck Liddell used to paint his toenails and then everybody wanted to paint their toenails? | ||
| Yeah, everyone went black toes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Talking about black toes? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All we need is one dude to go chocolate body and everybody goes nuts and he gets a big endorsement contract. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh! | |
| We need Sage Northcat to do it. | ||
| Damn, I hear Rodriguez with the fucking beautiful kicks. | ||
| But Green Zombie don't give a fuck about your kicks. | ||
| He's such a little monster. | ||
| Good defense there by Arya. | ||
| Oh, he tried again. | ||
| He tried again. | ||
| But at the very least, it's allowing him to escape. | ||
| Oh, step in elbow. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He's a creative dude. | ||
| Oh, he got clipped, though. | ||
| Temple, that right hand was to the temple. | ||
| That's the thing about the zombie, dude. | ||
| He'll eat your flashy shit and just come forward. | ||
| Well, in a lot of ways, this is a real good test for him after the Frankie fight, right? | ||
| It's a good test for both of them, right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yes. | |
| What's the matter? | ||
| Logo? | ||
| Fighters definitely can't do that? | ||
| I typed in fake tan, UFC fighter. | ||
| Oh, Sam Alvey did that? | ||
| When did he do that? | ||
| 2015. Wow. | ||
| You know, the UFC had to make in a policy about putting those fake tattoos on your back that said like, you know, casino something dot com. | ||
| Remember those? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Bernard Hopkins was the first guy to do that. | ||
| There's some guys who did that. | ||
| Yeah, UFC can't do that. | ||
| You can't get tattoos. | ||
| You know, it's in your contract. | ||
| No tattoos of logos. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Because they wouldn't be able to air it on television. | ||
| No, basketball, too. | ||
| Like, J.R. Smith got, I think, a Supreme tattoo, and he had to cover it up. | ||
| It's a large one. | ||
| It's a big-ass Supreme tattoo. | ||
| Unless you have ownership in that business, don't do that. | ||
| Yeah, what is that about? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He has so many tattoos, he's probably like, fuck it. | ||
| He's like, come on! | ||
| Give me free shit. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Wow, he's got it right off the back of his leg. | ||
| Looks pretty sick, though. | ||
| Oh, look at that Yair spitting elbow. | ||
| That shit was nasty. | ||
| Did you see that replay? | ||
| We should pay attention to this fight. | ||
| I know, we've been talking about chocolate bodies. | ||
| Yeah, I think we have a point though. | ||
| Dude, I feel like we're the first ones to really call it out. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
| I've never heard of it before. | ||
| Have you, Jamie? | ||
| There's probably a reason why there was a bunch of them tagged together on a website. | ||
| True. | ||
| I just think it's hilarious when you see the dudes who don't have chocolate face and they have chocolate body. | ||
| That's so weird looking. | ||
| Where your face is just a normal color. | ||
| But I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| It does make you look more defined. | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| When you're tan, you definitely look more shredded. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| But the thing about it is, like, tanning... | ||
| It's not really good for you, right? | ||
| Get that dark? | ||
| Not all the time, right? | ||
| If you got that dark? | ||
| Fuck, now you can't do it. | ||
| That's why they have to spray paint. | ||
| And also I would think that... | ||
| I wouldn't be mad if Korean Zombie had somewhat of a tan, but whatever. | ||
| Oh, how dare you. | ||
| That's what it looks like, bro. | ||
| That's what Koreans look like. | ||
| Yair Rodriguez going for the sunshine. | ||
| Yeah, he mixes it up, dude. | ||
| He does. | ||
| It's good head movement, too. | ||
| He looks good standing up. | ||
| Dude, how fun of a fight would have been Zabit versus Yair? | ||
| That's a motherfucking fight. | ||
| Yeah, that would have been a really good fight. | ||
| I don't like that fight for Zabit or... | ||
| For Yair? | ||
| For Yair Shower. | ||
| Oh, man, nice right hand by the Korean Zombie. | ||
| Well, I like it to see. | ||
| Entertainment-wise? | ||
| I want to see what's up. | ||
| You know, it's like a lot of people thought that Mike Perry had it all day for Cowboy, and Cowboy just showed everybody what was up tonight. | ||
| That's what's interesting, right? | ||
| Cowboy's been doing it for a long time. | ||
| We know what Cowboy brings. | ||
| We don't know what Mike Perry brings. | ||
| We don't know what Yair or fucking Zabit bring. | ||
| We don't totally know what they bring, but we've seen Yair tested. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We've seen Yair tested against Frankie. | ||
| Frankie Edgar just destroyed him. | ||
| That wasn't even a test. | ||
| Well, it was a test. | ||
| Well, we were like, you're not... | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| What's going on with the left picture? | ||
| Yeah, I can't put that on YouTube, but... | ||
| What is that left picture? | ||
| Is that a guy or a girl? | ||
| That's a woman. | ||
| How come she doesn't have a shirt on? | ||
| Is she allowed to... | ||
| This is an artist, photographer, or a photographer did like a series of photos on the subject. | ||
| Dude, that's a woman? | ||
| That's a transgender. | ||
| No, no, no, you son of a bitch. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Dude, that's a transgender woman on the left. | ||
| No, no, that's a woman who's... | ||
|
unidentified
|
How shall we put this? | |
| Got a lot of muscle. | ||
| Dude, that is not a woman with the pecs and the titties like that. | ||
| Those are implants. | ||
| No, it's a woman that's hooked up. | ||
| The titties are implants. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But my point is, that looks like her body and her proportions look like a... | ||
| Dude, that's a man, baby. | ||
| Like a... | ||
| Like a different kind of thing. | ||
| Dude, if that came up to you as a ladyboy telling me, like, bro, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Do better. | ||
| But this is what I'm thinking. | ||
| She looks like... | ||
| Green Zombie's piecing him up. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| He's going after him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She looks like she could be, like, a type of human that evolved on a nearby star. | ||
| She looks like Steve Nash with tits. | ||
| Am I right? | ||
| Like a type of human that evolved in a nearby galaxy that's super similar to us. | ||
| I don't know, bro. | ||
| Hopefully not. | ||
| Well, the implant, if that wasn't an implant, if that's just what the breasts look like, just super muscular on top, just like a guy, super jacked, looks like a rugby player, and then you get to the titties in these weird sort of bulbous bags. | ||
| Maybe they're horns or something. | ||
| They're hard rocks that they use for chest-banging in battle. | ||
| God, that's a tough call. | ||
| Super jacked. | ||
| But that's not a classic female physique, that's for sure. | ||
| I like the nails though. | ||
| Long white nails are a strong touch. | ||
| Go back to that, Jamie. | ||
| If there was any doubt whatsoever about the femininity. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Really? | |
| Yeah, look at them nails. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| That's a man. | ||
| With demon hands. | ||
| Just full of veins and thick. | ||
| Look like they've been just lifting heavy shit for years. | ||
| Jerking off dudes. | ||
| Boom, boom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But hey, man, if that's how she wants to look... | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Do your thing, girl. | ||
| There's people that love to get jacked. | ||
| They love to just be preposterously huge. | ||
| Look at that lady. | ||
| Total chocolate face. | ||
| How dare you, lady. | ||
| Dude, that is the most chocolate face. | ||
| She's dark chocolate face. | ||
| We need a new chocolate face. | ||
| She went full cocoa face. | ||
| Damn, dude. | ||
| If she was on the Megyn Kelly show, if she walked out in the background and started posing right when Megyn was talking about blackface... | ||
| The whole world! | ||
|
unidentified
|
The whole world would have pointed at her and going, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait! | |
| That's okay? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hold on, you're telling me this bitch is okay? | |
| She's in a fitness competition? | ||
| Are you at your goddamn mind? | ||
| It's okay, bro. | ||
| It's a fitness competition. | ||
| It's alright, I'll do an Olympia next week. | ||
| I'm just showing you how ripped my face is. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It makes no sense! | |
| My face is shredded as fuck, son. | ||
| Dude, I'm trying to show off my jaw. | ||
| Look at these muscles right here. | ||
| I chew gum all day, bro. | ||
| When I want to stop, I don't. | ||
| So my fucking cheeks right here is ripped. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It makes zero sense when my face is chuckling. | |
| This fucking face is ripped, bro. | ||
| Oh, fuck, bro. | ||
| Getting that face ripped. | ||
| Oh, hey, fella. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| That guy's an aborigine in a movie. | ||
| You cannot do that. | ||
| They pull that guy out of the cave, and someone has to translate the white man's language to him. | ||
| Oh, fuck, dude. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You got a guy who's like, they are looking for gold. | |
| That's exactly what it looks like. | ||
| Oh, how dare you, sir? | ||
| How many people just want to wear blackface because they're super racist and they can't so they become bodybuilders? | ||
| Does that happen? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Dude. | |
| I mean, I'm not saying it happens a lot, but it's happened. | ||
| There's a few. | ||
| Has it happened once? | ||
|
unidentified
|
For sure. | |
| Has one guy said, I am just a fucking bodybuilder, bro. | ||
| Get over it, man. | ||
| Yeah, get over it. | ||
| He starts like rapping and shit Oh my god Jesus Christ! | ||
|
unidentified
|
How is that acceptable? | |
| How is that possible? | ||
| That guy looks like somebody sprayed ink on him. | ||
| Dude, you know how hard that shit is to get off after these bullshit competitions? | ||
| That guy looks like he fell in an oil well. | ||
| You know how unhealthy those people are? | ||
| The guy literally looks like he fell in oil. | ||
| He's like, they pulled him out of an oil well. | ||
| Like, oh, I was in there, I had to rescue the kid. | ||
| He went under. | ||
| He went under and saved somebody, and he's a goddamn hero. | ||
| You don't need your face to be black. | ||
| We'll say, okay, whoa. | ||
| That guy might be black. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| How do you know, Jamie? | ||
| Don't get racist on us, Jamie. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| His hair is different. | ||
| Isn't that funny that you can get, that would make you racist? | ||
| Like, if you thought that one of these guys in chocolate face and chocolate skin and chocolate body, if you thought one of those guys wasn't doing it, you'd feel like you were racist. | ||
| Like, oh my god, that's his real color. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Shit! | |
| It's more, the women do it too, though, right, Jamie? | ||
| It's more of a man thing. | ||
| Oh, no, the women do it for sure. | ||
| Oh, dude, their titties are disgusting. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hey! | |
| What are you showing me, man? | ||
| He keeps it up, too, to creep you out. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, he does. | |
| Look. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Dude, that girl is... | ||
| I just can't, man. | ||
| Dude, this is round four. | ||
| We talked about this fight for a total of 20 seconds. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It looks like it's good, dude. | ||
| Fucking chocolate body's fucking whole vibe up. | ||
| Good front kick up the middle by Yair. | ||
| Once the Korean zombie's forced to fight on the outside like this, then Yair's kicks become more dangerous. | ||
| And that's shit like spinning back fists, because you don't know what's coming. | ||
| So he doesn't know where the distance is, where he's safe. | ||
| You're going to need to land a real clean one to stop the zombie because he does not fucking stop. | ||
| He's the zombie. | ||
| Yeah, two nice right hands. | ||
| Oh, he's hunted him down. | ||
| Oh, Yair. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I think he fell there, though. | ||
| Yeah, he definitely fell. | ||
| I think Yair did a good job chasing after him, but I think he fell. | ||
| Oh, nice jab. | ||
| Damn, yeah, they're just bloodied up. | ||
| Yeah, they're beating each other up. | ||
| Ooh, there's another nice left hand. | ||
| Korean zombie switching up from right hand to left hand. | ||
| They're both fucked up. | ||
| Both their noses look broke. | ||
| Yeah, they're beat up. | ||
| Korean Zombie's got some going on, not just with his nose, but I think with his lip, right? | ||
| His upper lip? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Oh, he just wiggled there. | ||
| He just threw that punch and wiggled. | ||
| Oh shit, he just landed. | ||
| Remember when Korean Zombie just dipped out for four years to serve in Korea? | ||
| Military? | ||
| You have to. | ||
| Yeah, it was a few years. | ||
| How many years was it? | ||
| Was it two or four? | ||
| I remember he was gone for four years and beat Dennis Bermudez, I think. | ||
| Dude, his lip is fucked up. | ||
| I think he KO'd Dennis Bermudez. | ||
| Oh, Yair popped him with the jab right on that mouth. | ||
| I think he's got some issues going on with that upper lip, man. | ||
| We've seen that before where lip splits. | ||
| You've seen Chuck Liddell's when he fought Rich Franklin. | ||
| That was the worst I've ever seen. | ||
| Robbie Lawler's probably the worst though, right? | ||
| Close to four years, Jamie? | ||
| He missed four years. | ||
| I think he served two. | ||
| But he missed four years in the UFC, then came back, beat Dennis Bermudez. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Korean Zombie just hit him with a big right hand. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Big right hand. | ||
| He's yelling something. | ||
| He's saying he's doing something. | ||
| He's saying he's holding his glove? | ||
| He said something. | ||
| Dude, did it wobble, Yair? | ||
| Yeah, he cracked him. | ||
| He cracked him good. | ||
| It was a good shot. | ||
| The fucking zombie, man. | ||
| Remember his badass walkout shirt? | ||
| Oh, he's saying he hit him in the nuts. | ||
| Or is Yair looking for a break? | ||
| They're not stopping it for that. | ||
| Oh, come on! | ||
| Go, Korean! | ||
| Zombie! | ||
| Let's take no races. | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
| Did you see what happened? | ||
| Zyre was complaining they got hit in the nuts and kept looking at the ref for it. | ||
| But do you see what happened that made him say he got hit in the nuts? | ||
| No. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| But if the ref doesn't stop, I mean, come on, dude. | ||
| They're probably both exhausted. | ||
| You can see, like, come on, give us a break. | ||
| Well, they're both, they've taken a lot of punishment. | ||
| Yeah, Korean Zombie looks like a different person. | ||
| And so does Yair. | ||
| He's covered in blood. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Beautiful left hand behind him. | ||
| Yair looks like one of those hyenas when they're eating. | ||
| Right, and they're going right through a water hog's asshole. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like a fucking water buffalo's dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, his face is all red like that. | ||
| Like a water pig. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some kind of wildebeest looking... | ||
| He looks like a fucking... | ||
| Butthole. | ||
| Hyena, man. | ||
| You ever see a warthog? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I've seen a warthog get up close. | ||
| What a fucking weird looking animal that is. | ||
| Super weird. | ||
| You ever watch that? | ||
| I forget what the nature metal, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| We both follow on Instagram. | ||
| Oh yeah, nature is metal. | ||
| But they'll post like a hyena ripping a fucking water buffalo's dick off. | ||
| And it'll say sensitive material. | ||
| I'm like, I'll watch it at 5 in the morning. | ||
| I'm like, god damn it. | ||
| It's like a zebra getting his fucking ear starched off by a fucking eagle or something. | ||
| James Vick posted something on Instagram. | ||
| Because, you know, James Vick has been pig hunting lately. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he posted this video of a pig eating a deer. | ||
| And you watch it. | ||
| Like a boar? | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| It's a wild pig. | ||
| It doesn't necessarily have to be a boar to eat a deer. | ||
| It could be a wild female. | ||
| So when you think of wild boar, people think of like a different thing. | ||
| They think of tusks, yeah. | ||
| That's just a male. | ||
| Oh yeah? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| But a boar isn't the same as the pig that we eat, the pink piggies. | ||
| That's where it gets strange. | ||
| Because they're actually all the same species. | ||
| Oh damn, I did not know that. | ||
| They look different though. | ||
| Boar looks different. | ||
| They have like hair, their noses, they're gnarly. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They're different in where they come from too. | ||
| Bebop and rock studies. | ||
| If they're in like Russia, like Russian boars. | ||
| And they're bigger too, right? | ||
| They're all considered among the same genus, I think they call it. | ||
| They say genus. | ||
| Is that what you say? | ||
| Janus or genus? | ||
| How do you say that? | ||
| It depends what country you're in. | ||
| Steve Rinella told me all this. | ||
| It's a species called sous scroffa, and that's what pigs are. | ||
| Is that like saying birds are all the same, Joe? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's very different. | ||
| Because when you leave pigs out in the wild... | ||
| See, there it is right there. | ||
| What a difference between a boar and a wildebeest. | ||
| No, wilder pigs call the boar underrated male. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| It just says it right here. | ||
| It doesn't talk about wildebeest and that thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What does it say? | ||
| A wild pig can be called a boar, but that's just the name of it. | ||
| Pig, European wild boar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this is what the question is, right? | ||
| What's the difference between wild pigs and domesticated pigs? | ||
| Yeah, like the pink pig and the warthog. | ||
| I think a pig is the same family. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| Yeah, uncastrated male domestic pig. | ||
| That's just the term wild boar. | ||
| What I'm asking is, is a pig and a wild pig, a domesticated pig and a wild pig, what's the difference between them? | ||
| I don't think there really is. | ||
| I think they're the same thing. | ||
| It's just they bred one and turned it into this real soft sort of thing. | ||
| But when they get wild... | ||
| Their body actually morphs. | ||
| Yeah, they're not pink in the wild. | ||
| They get fucked up, right? | ||
| No, they literally have changes to their anatomy. | ||
| Their nose grows. | ||
| Their mouth lengthens. | ||
| Their teeth grow out. | ||
| Their hair gets thicker. | ||
| And it happens just after a few months. | ||
| Yeah, I know what the girls... | ||
| It says a wild pig is just both once it's wild. | ||
| And then a razorback is a... | ||
| That's not the answer to my question, though. | ||
| The question is, what is the difference between a wild pig and a domesticated pig? | ||
| Do they have that on there? | ||
| Okay, just Google what's the difference between a wild pig versus a domesticated pig. | ||
| Yeah, let's see what it tells us. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Look at that big piggy. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Pig, hog, and boar essentially describe the same animal. | ||
| But there are some distinctions. | ||
| A boar is an uncastrated male domestic pig, but it also means a wild pig of any gender. | ||
| A hog often means... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If we go deeper into it, I'm pretty sure that it says they're a part of something called sous-scraffa. | ||
| And sous-scraffa is the group that includes wild pigs, domesticated pigs, all those different animals. | ||
| But when you let them go wild... | ||
| They literally change who they are. | ||
| Yeah, Sue Scruffa. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So it is kind of the same thing. | ||
| It's just they look different in different places, but they're the same thing. | ||
| Dude, my son was playing with two baby pigs. | ||
| They were eight weeks old. | ||
| Goddamn, they were cute. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, they're adorable. | |
| God, they're cute. | ||
| When you see them in the wild, they're so different. | ||
| It's such a ruthlessly aggressive little thing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So you want to kill them. | ||
| Well, they're creepy. | ||
| I remember the first time I ever hunted them. | ||
| I was with Ronella, and we were walking past this field, and the grass was, the brush, everything was very thick, and it was really high. | ||
| It was like much taller than their backs. | ||
| So if a pig is, you know, only a couple feet tall, the grass was probably like five, six feet tall, because you couldn't see where they were. | ||
| But you hear them in there. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| They were going at it with each other. | ||
| Dude, it sounded like there was little demons in there trying to kill each other. | ||
| Would you guys just go in there and mark them up? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| They're about to throw down. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| They put their hands up. | ||
| What is going on right now? | ||
| Korean zombie just looked up at the screen. | ||
| Yair said, let's meet right in the center and throw down. | ||
| I think that's what he's saying. | ||
| Well, you know the zombie's down. | ||
| I don't know what happened there. | ||
| The zombie looked around like... | ||
| We're talking about wild pigs. | ||
| People are like, this fucking fight is amazing! | ||
| And these two assholes! | ||
| I see a bunch of people clapping and shit. | ||
| Talking about wild pigs! | ||
| And chocolate bodies. | ||
| Chocolate face. | ||
| Chocolate body, bro. | ||
| Chocolate body's totally okay. | ||
| It's when you go upstairs with the face. | ||
| You're better off going full white face, chocolate body, and say, hey man, I would never do black face. | ||
| It's disrespectful. | ||
| But your chocolate feet, chocolate hands? | ||
| Oh, look at that straight left hand by the zombie. | ||
| That was nice. | ||
| The zombie's trying to get in the fucking... | ||
| Shootout. | ||
| That was a serious straight left. | ||
| He's been switching stances, and as he switches stances, he pops that left hand in there. | ||
| If someone said, hey, Sean, I'll give you $100,000. | ||
| Tell me who's winning this fight. | ||
| I couldn't do it. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I'll tell you a couple things about chocolate bodies and war dogs. | ||
| I know quite a bit about that. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| And wild pigs. | ||
| I know it's been an entertaining fight. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Beautiful spinning back fist. | ||
| Yair still. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Tries a hammer fist. | ||
| He's still super creative. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh. | |
| Yeah, he's a fun guy to watch, man. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| Oh, nice right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Short little check hook. | |
| That sidekick to the knee, man. | ||
| That's such a nasty move. | ||
| Yair was at Jackson's for a little bit, remember? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That sidekick is their thing. | ||
| Well... | ||
| It's a legit move. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Whitaker, Yo Romero. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, how about fucking Weidman getting starched? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| He's going to get the next title shot, too. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Well, I guess Jacare gets it now. | ||
| I think you do a stylebender of Jacare. | ||
| Because Jacare already lost to Whitaker? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No one wants to see that. | ||
| Yeah, but, man, I mean, how many more years do you think Jacare's going to fight? | ||
| He's 38. Yeah, not many. | ||
| He beat the guy who was going to get the title shot, right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
True. | |
| Don't you think? | ||
| Oh no, Weidman was for sure they were going to fly him to the fight to be an alternate. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Dude, they keep putting their hands up. | ||
| There's fucking ten minutes left. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Tell you what, what are they doing? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| If you don't want to get the bonus, do that. | ||
| Nice kick to the body there. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Oh, he flatlined him. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Holy fuck! | ||
| There was five seconds left, and he threw a fucking elbow and knocked a Korean zombie out. | ||
| Oh my god, that was insane. | ||
| Look at him kick all the coaches out. | ||
| It's so stupid they do this. | ||
| Just let him celebrate. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| That was insane. | ||
| Flatlined him. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He zombied him. | ||
| He's fucked too. | ||
| He's still out. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| The doctor over. | ||
| Zaire calling the doctor over? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| He probably knows. | ||
| Dude, that fucking elbow flopped. | ||
| Can we get a replay? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Oh, he's hurt, man. | ||
| Zaire's hurt. | ||
| See how he got up and he just winced in pain? | ||
| Shit. | ||
| What did he hurt? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Did his coach tackle him? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Wow. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| Dude, this is one of the best knockouts of the year. | ||
| Was that on the buzzer? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Whoop! | ||
| Look! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Boom! | |
| Bang! | ||
| Upward elbow! | ||
| Insane! | ||
| Holy fuck! | ||
| I've never seen that! | ||
| That's sweet! | ||
| I've never ever seen that! | ||
| Bang! | ||
| Oh my goodness! | ||
| Oh my goodness! | ||
| What a fucking KO! What a beautiful elbow! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoop! | |
| Creative! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Dude, that was... | ||
| Can we get the clock at the bottom? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Crack! | |
| Oh my god! | ||
| I think there's two seconds maybe. | ||
| Two seconds! | ||
| And I wonder what the scorecard we're going into that. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I wish we were paying attention. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, me too. | |
| Unless we watch the KO. That's phenomenal, man. | ||
| That is phenomenal. | ||
| Look at Izzy. | ||
| My man, Victor Ortiz too. | ||
| Holy shit, what a big win for Yair. | ||
| Victor Davila, the guy who just jumped in, he's a UFC commentator for the... | ||
| Deportes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Super good dude. | ||
| He's one of his black belts, too. | ||
| Yeah, he's a great guy. | ||
| Him and Verdum are the Deportes guys. | ||
| Dude, that right elbow was so nasty. | ||
| I've never seen that. | ||
| I've never seen that. | ||
| Look at Jimmy Smith! | ||
| Look at Rashad. | ||
| Look at Rashad's face. | ||
| Everybody's like, wow, that is crazy. | ||
| That was one of the craziest elbows you're ever going to see, man. | ||
| The best knockout of the year? | ||
| Oh yeah, especially considering that he's got this nickname, the Korean Zombie. | ||
| And we've never seen that. | ||
| Wait a minute, was Alistair and Francis, was that this year? | ||
| Was that this year? | ||
| You gotta give that it. | ||
| I think this is better. | ||
| I've seen how many right hands connect. | ||
| That was a left hook. | ||
| Left hook, by the way. | ||
| Left, right hook, uppercut. | ||
| No, that was an uppercut he hit. | ||
| It was last year. | ||
| It's out. | ||
| It's out of the running. | ||
| That's number one of the year. | ||
| Okay, but that's only UFC. Yeah, other ones don't really count, do they? | ||
| They should. | ||
| Well, hey. | ||
| Bellator? | ||
| For sure, Bellator has some good ones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What's the best KO? Can you name one? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Pico's had some great KOs. | ||
| Pico's uppercut that we talked about earlier. | ||
| That uppercut's insane. | ||
| This is the best KOs of the year? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cater? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cater had a good one. | ||
| I was at that fight. | ||
| Jacare Brunson. | ||
| Jacare's head kicked him. | ||
| That's what's so crazy. | ||
| Dude, Jacare's just fucking dudes up. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Boom! | |
| No, that's not even the same fucking... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's a different thing. | ||
| Oh, fucking Smith. | ||
| This is Tiago. | ||
| Santos? | ||
| Santos KO'd him, though. | ||
| Body shot? | ||
| Yeah, he body shot at him and then beat him down. | ||
| Again, I've never seen a no-look elbow. | ||
| That was beautiful. | ||
| If you've ever seen... | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Romero Rockhold was good. | ||
| Romero Rockhold was fantastic. | ||
| Damn, Yair's fucked up. | ||
| You ain't getting that Zabit Yair fight for quite some time. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He got fucked up. | ||
| Dude, he is really fucked up. | ||
| Looks like he can't stand on his leg. | ||
| Dude, when Yoel punches you, it just seems like a different thing. | ||
| The way he punched Rockhold and then punched him again, it's like a different thing. | ||
| Dude, at 85, there's some great fucking fighters still. | ||
| It might be the best division right now. | ||
| 55 stack. | ||
| It is. | ||
| 70s fucking filthy. | ||
| They're both stacked. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Between Stylebender, Boracina, you know, you got Yoel Romero who's still in the mix. | ||
| Robert Whitaker. | ||
| Rockhold. | ||
| Weidman was in that fight. | ||
| I know, it was a good fight. | ||
| Up until the last punch that Jacare landed that KO'd him. | ||
| Kelvin Gaslam. | ||
| Kelvin Gaslam. | ||
| They're stacked. | ||
| Rockhold's a beast, man. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| 85 is up there. | ||
| How about Cannoneer, who just fought at 85? | ||
| He just had his first big win. | ||
| Dude, he looks terrifying. | ||
| Here it is again. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| That is ridiculous. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Slide, slide, slide. | ||
| Bank! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Boom! | |
| Dude, that is ridiculous. | ||
| Placement is so perfect. | ||
| What's he saying about his leg? | ||
|
unidentified
|
He did his camp with Cowboys. | |
| Oh, he's thanking Cowboy Cerrone. | ||
| Because they did their camp together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was beautiful. | ||
| They just, uh... | ||
| I wonder what happened to him when he's limping. | ||
| Oh, he's bringing it up now. | ||
| Did he break his feet? | ||
| First round, he fucked his foot up, he said. | ||
| So he kicked his knee Accidentally And he thinks he broke his foot In the first round Or at least fucked his foot up In the first round - I'm going to take it on the top. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You think he called it the beat now? | ||
| Whoever Sean Shelby and Dana White want me to fight, always the standard thing to say. | ||
| You never get big fights when you do that, but yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You always gotta just go for someone, even if it's not in your nature. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Yeah, if you really want that fight, you gotta ask for it. | ||
| Gotta. | ||
| And they put it in their brain, otherwise they can give you what they think's best. | ||
| Very interesting fight, though, for what we did get to see of it. | ||
| And that elbow was fucking fantastic. | ||
| Best knock out of the year. | ||
| That's such a really good, important point about the difference between recklessly charging in and, you know, with the Korean zombies doing that, turning into a zombie war, like he does every fight. | ||
| It was working. | ||
| I feel like he'd probably be up on the scorecards. | ||
| It looked like it was working. | ||
| I'd like to know. | ||
| We'll find out later what the people that were watching think. | ||
| Even at the scorecards. | ||
| One person I read said he was down 3-1 going into that round. | ||
| For the zombie? | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Three rounds to one, the zombie was up. | ||
| Yeah, from what I saw, the zombie and the exchanges. | ||
| Looked like it. | ||
| He was definitely coming after him, moving forward, but it looked like Yair was getting some shots in. | ||
| Good for him, man. | ||
| All the drama, too. | ||
| There's his family. | ||
| Got blood on your mom. | ||
| Dude, look at this again. | ||
| This is so sick, dude. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoop! | |
| Bam! | ||
| That's some N1 shit. | ||
| He just delivered that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| One of the best elbow chaos of all time. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Of all time. | ||
| Of all time. | ||
| And perfect time to use that technique. | ||
| And that's the number 10 guy in the world. | ||
| Name the Korean zombie. | ||
| You know, it's a fight where, according to at least one judge, he was losing. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| And he lands that. | ||
| I love how the coach is flying in. | ||
| And it uses the momentum of his attacker. | ||
| It's a beautiful lesson in martial arts for people to watch. | ||
| When a strike like that lands, and it lands so perfectly, that opens up that strike for a lot of people. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Remember when John Jones started, the one where he touched the inside leg and then everyone started to do it. | ||
| One guy does it, and then... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you ever see Gaston Bellano spinning elbow in Bellator? | ||
| No. | ||
| Son. | ||
| Dope. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Son. | |
| Really? | ||
| You want to see someone look like they got shot with a laser beam from the moon? | ||
| Really? | ||
| He just hits him in the head. | ||
| Bring that shit out, Jamie. | ||
| This dude got hit so hard. | ||
| Gaston is a real world-class Muay Thai fighter. | ||
| Look, left. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Bang! | |
| Oh! | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Watch this one more time. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I mean, come on, son. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Folded him. | |
| But it's the way it lands, too. | ||
| It's just so perfect. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Boom! | |
| Now, was this against the No. | ||
| 10 fight in the world? | ||
| No. | ||
| So, yeah, yours is more impressive. | ||
| But, boom. | ||
| But again, I've seen spinning elbows land and knock dudes out. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Like that? | |
| That one's pretty cold-hearted. | ||
| Let's watch it one more time in real time. | ||
| Dude, I've never seen a guy no-look KO someone with an elbow. | ||
| I don't think I have either. | ||
| Watch this, though. | ||
| That's real time. | ||
| One more time, real time. | ||
| One more time, real time. | ||
| Give it to me in real time. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Swat! | ||
| That's filthy. | ||
| That is insane. | ||
| That's like... | ||
| That's the restart. | ||
| That's Control-Alt-Delete. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The whole thing goes dark and comes back up. | ||
| Yeah, but Korean Zombie is a guy who, first of all, was deep in that fight, maybe even winning that fight, at least according to one judge, known for being a zombie, known for being able to take a tremendous shot. | ||
| Flatlined. | ||
| Tough as shit. | ||
| Flatlined. | ||
| Flatlined in a fight he might have been winning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Powerful Rashad haircut. | ||
| Rashad, looking suave. | ||
| I like his shaved head better, but whatever. | ||
| I like what he's doing with his hair. | ||
| I like this purple psychedelic paisley tie. | ||
| Not mad at the beard. | ||
| I like the whole look. | ||
| Jimmy Smith. | ||
| What's that pin? | ||
| What do you think that pin is? | ||
| Is that a Porsche pin? | ||
| Imagine what a dick you'd be if you had a Ferrari pin. | ||
| That's some shit I would do. | ||
| What do you think that pin is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It looks like a Porsche pin. | ||
| What is that pin, Jimmy? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| It's probably for veterans today. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh. | |
| Good call, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Well, dude. | ||
| Well, we covered it all, bro. | ||
| We covered it all, butt fighting. | ||
| For all you bodybuilders out there, we don't really care. | ||
| No, keep doing your chocolate bodies. | ||
| Yeah, we really don't care. | ||
| I actually encourage it because it's hilarious. | ||
| And it makes you look better. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Dude, it's an advantage. | ||
| Chocolate it up, bro. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I don't think that you shouldn't be able to do it, but I do think all of it's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I do think it's racist now that I look at it more. | ||
| I don't even think it's racist. | ||
| I don't even think it's racist. | ||
| I think they're just trying to look like they're shredded. | ||
| Like a black guy. | ||
| Like a black guy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
How dare you? | |
| That's exactly what they're doing. | ||
| And listen, it's working for them and chocolate body is the new thing. | ||
| Highlights are incredible. | ||
| Well, it definitely has an impact, man. | ||
| I mean, if you're white like paper and you're trying to look jacked on TV and you're standing next to a dude who went chocolate face and chocolate body, that guy's going to look way darker. | ||
| Who wants to be more chocolatey? | ||
| And the only reason why you should go chocolate face is because otherwise it's super distracting. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Correct. | |
| You gotta go all. | ||
| Now I don't think you're tan. | ||
| I think you're crazy. | ||
| Yeah, you're crazy. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| You're like, what the fuck? | ||
| Do you have like a suit on? | ||
| You gotta match it. | ||
| There's some girls who are particularly sexually adventurous and they will, even for Halloween parties, will just paint their tits. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That was a thing that was going on for a while. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| It was like a loophole. | ||
| Crazy hot, Joe. | ||
| Crazy hot. | ||
| But it was like a loophole where girls could basically be topless at parties with paint on their tits. | ||
| And you could see their face. | ||
| Full nipple. | ||
| But it was all good. | ||
| You can see they had stars over their areolas. | ||
| Are you watching Twitch these days? | ||
| What, still going on? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah! | |
| What's Twitch doing? | ||
| What's going on on Twitch? | ||
| I don't know what day they changed the rules, but the rules got changed sometime. | ||
| Oh, why'd they change the rules? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Oh, the other way. | ||
| Good, good. | ||
| They let them paint their tits. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Listen, if you can wear some sheer, skin-tight shirt that shows your nipples, and I'm all for that, why can't a girl paint her tits and make some money? | ||
| What, do you want to work at Denny's, motherfucker? | ||
| Can a guy paint his dick and make some money? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, wow. | |
| Perfect. | ||
| Dude, she is hot. | ||
| This girl just has her titties all done up. | ||
| It's spray paint. | ||
| Look at this one. | ||
| This is Twitch world? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they have fake bikinis on. | ||
| Dude, I need to get on Twitch. | ||
| But it's just titties. | ||
| She has some tiny titties. | ||
| But this is naked. | ||
| Well, that's going down now. | ||
| No, stop it, you asshole. | ||
| The girl's crying. | ||
| Leave these girls. | ||
| Separate them. | ||
| This girl's got elf ears. | ||
| This is the dark web now. | ||
| No, no, no, we're good. | ||
| The point is they're allowed to do it. | ||
| She's got barbs through those nipples. | ||
| What's happening down there? | ||
| Is there something happening onto those nipples? | ||
| Am I just looking at it wrong? | ||
| Dude, this is twitch. | ||
| What the fuck do they do it for? | ||
| Yeah, what are those things on her nipples? | ||
| Is that some sort of an object? | ||
| Is that a little line? | ||
| Yeah, what is that? | ||
| Is that like a nail through it? | ||
| Oh, is that paint? | ||
| Yeah, it's all paint. | ||
| I thought maybe she had some sort of... | ||
| Ring going on. | ||
| When I talk about Twitch, it's like my dad asked me about CBD oil. | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| I couldn't tell you what... | ||
| People do a lot of shows on Twitch now. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Like a lot of... | ||
| You know who contacted me the other day? | ||
| Bubba the Love Sponge. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, he's doing a show on Twitch. | ||
| He does a show on Twitch. | ||
| Like a straight... | ||
| What do you mean show? | ||
| He was a famous radio guy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, I know. | |
| He still is. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He used to be on Sirius in the early days when Howard first got on. | ||
| Bubba the Love Sponge was on after him. | ||
| He does a show like this on Twitch? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
| I need to get on Twitch. | ||
| Yeah, I think Jeans and Segura are doing it. | ||
| Yeah, they're on there. | ||
| Yeah, your mom's house, Tom and Christina. | ||
| They're hip, they're cool. | ||
| Yeah, they're doing Twitch as well. | ||
| Have you looked into it, Jamie, much? | ||
| Yeah, I'm on there myself. | ||
| But I play video games, but it's expanded over the last, I don't know, year to more than video games. | ||
| There's podcast sections, there's music sections. | ||
| They try to do like a comedy section even. | ||
| They're trying to entice people to do stand-up comedy on there. | ||
| It's a terrible idea. | ||
| Yeah, it's a terrible idea. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't work. | ||
| But there's tons more than just video games on there now. | ||
| When people first started doing podcasts, one guy asked me to do his podcast and then asked me to do stand-up. | ||
| They do the live podcast. | ||
| He wanted me to do stand-up on the podcast. | ||
| I go, what are you talking about? | ||
| I go, you want me to do my act on your show? | ||
| And then it just gets released on the internet? | ||
| I just do it that way? | ||
| Instead of just getting paid for a Comedy Central special or a Netflix special? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Like, what are you talking about? | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Why would I do that? | ||
| And you're just going to sell it? | ||
| They said no idea. | ||
| You're just going to sell this podcast to put it on? | ||
| And how much do I get out of this? | ||
| Zero? | ||
| Okay, that sounds like a good deal. | ||
| And my material's out there in a stupid-ass show. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| But that was the early days of podcasting. | ||
| People were trying to figure out what the hell it was. | ||
| Like, what is this thing? | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Is this just a joke? | ||
| Is anybody paying attention? | ||
| Who's watching? | ||
| Little did they know. | ||
| Yeah, it's just... | ||
| I remember Kevin Smith was one of the first guys to take it seriously because he rented a theater. | ||
| He had a theater on Melrose. | ||
| It was like the Smodcast Theater. | ||
| And we used it once. | ||
| I used it once to interview... | ||
| Was it Tom Green and Jim Norton? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I think I did two podcasts there. | ||
| I did one with Tom Green and one with Jim Norton. | ||
| Yeah, it was interesting. | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| It's interesting, but it's different. | ||
| Yeah, doing it live in front of an audience is different. | ||
| Yeah, it's not like... | ||
| Do you guys still do live Fighter and the Kid shows? | ||
| We don't. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| No. | ||
| Too busy with both of your stand-up careers? | ||
| Too busy, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's rare Brian and I get together as far as live shows. | ||
| Well, I guess that's good because it means you're both busy because that's exactly the same thing that happened like me and Joey and even me and Ari and me and Duncan. | ||
| It's like everybody else just got too big. | ||
| You know, Ari's just headlining these giant-ass places now and Joey's headlining giant-ass places and Segura is selling out everything all across the country. | ||
| It's just how it goes. | ||
| If you're doing stuff with people, eventually they wind up doing something else. | ||
| I know you're doing really well with your stand-up comedy. | ||
| It's probably hard to do those shows because those shows are a different thing, right? | ||
| It takes away from what I'm doing. | ||
| You know, like the original goal. | ||
| If I'm going to dedicate time and stage, it's going to be to my... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Especially because you kind of have to if you want to headline places. | ||
| You want to keep pumping out new shit and you want to do a special. | ||
| As much as fun as I'd have with the life I had and the kids, it was the exact opposite. | ||
| That was just improv and me and Brian dicking around most of the time. | ||
| You're not getting better at anything. | ||
| You're having a good time with your buddy. | ||
| Right, you're not making your act stronger, like piecing up your materials. | ||
| No, I remember last time I told Brian this, me and him did one at the Comedy Store, I don't know, like a year at least ago, a year and a half maybe. | ||
| When we got done, I was like, I'm done with these, dude. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh, you had a weird one, right? | ||
| There was one of them that came out weird at the Comedy Store? | ||
| It wasn't weird, but it was clunky, yeah, because we haven't been together in a while and we did that. | ||
| I'm like, dude... | ||
| This isn't the best product for you or me. | ||
| This makes us look bad, I feel like. | ||
| Yeah, it can, right? | ||
| I think you've got to respect what that is. | ||
| If you're going to do a two-man show, you've got to coordinate the shit out of that. | ||
| It requires a lot of work. | ||
| You can't wing it, especially from people going from pain to see you do stand-up. | ||
| They see your stand-up act, which is you know what it is. | ||
| They go from seeing that to that. | ||
| I felt like it was hurting the brand more than anything. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Brian agreed, too. | ||
| But we did a show together with Ari and Big J, and that was fun. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| That was All Things Comedy. | ||
| They're doing a festival down there. | ||
| Yeah, they did a festival. | ||
| Brought us all in. | ||
| All Things Comedy is doing a lot of shit, man. | ||
| They're killing it. | ||
| They're kicking ass. | ||
| Bill Burr. | ||
| They're doing specials. | ||
| They're doing an Ian Edwards special. | ||
| Are they really? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Oh, yeah. | |
| That's dope. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Comedy Central game is special. | ||
| But there's something with that. | ||
| Ari, Theo, Brian, Big Jay and I were all talking about we could do the same way they did the White Comedy Tour. | ||
| Was it Blue Comedy Tour? | ||
| White Comedy Tour? | ||
| Where the fuck it was? | ||
| We could do that once a month. | ||
| Just pick one city, do two big ass shows and get out. | ||
| But announce a tour with it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| That'd be fun. | ||
| You know, and also, like, you're doing comedy clubs, too, which is so important at this stage of, like, when you're trying to ramp up to a special in January. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta do a lot of comedy clubs, because you get those two-show-a-nights in. | ||
| Two-show-Friday, two-show-Saturday. | ||
| Everything gets juicy. | ||
| Usually, one Thursday, two Friday, two Saturday. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Thursday's a warm-up set. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Working the kinks out. | ||
| Thursday, you get things popping. | ||
| Get that bitch hot. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Woo! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| They come in guns blazing on Friday. | ||
| I'll tell you what's weird to relate to fighting is I was like, oh fuck, I'm about nine weeks out from the special. | ||
| It almost feels like, damn, you gotta, I don't know. | ||
| You know who used to say that? | ||
| Louis C.K. He used to treat it like it was a fight. | ||
| He would go running and get in shape, run like five miles a day. | ||
| He would ramp up actual physical training to prepare for a comedy special. | ||
| That's how I am. | ||
| My diet's on point now, my diet, my workouts. | ||
| Well, what I learned from this Sober October workout challenge, this fitness challenge that Ari and Tom and Bert and I did, was that when you work out a lot like that, you do a shit ton of cardio, you don't give a fuck. | ||
| Your anxiety is severely, severely diminished. | ||
| You feel so good. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| When you do a lot of cardio, like I was doing... | ||
| On a normal day, any average day I might be working out three and a half hours. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Way too much. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| But it was just for a month. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the point was that, and I don't think you need to do three and a half hours, but you might need to do an hour. | ||
| If you can do an hour of hard cardio, you don't give a fuck. | ||
| That's what I try to do every day. | ||
| You chill. | ||
| Yeah, 60 minutes of hard where I'm burning 800,000 calories. | ||
| That's all you have to do. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Done. | |
| Dude, I feel really good when I work out like that. | ||
| If I don't, I feel like my demeanor, I'm not as fun, I'm not as outgoing, I'm not as creative. | ||
| I don't feel great. | ||
| Dude, I was saying that if it was a pill, if you give someone a pill and that pill could make me feel like I feel after I work out for three and a half hours. | ||
| Oh, I'd be addicted to it. | ||
| I'd take that pill every day. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's some I don't give a fuck juice. | ||
| It's called Oxycontin Joe, but whatever. | ||
|
unidentified
|
No. | |
| No, I hear you. | ||
| Because it doesn't change who you are. | ||
| True. | ||
| Like, if you gave me a spelling bee, I'd fuck up the same words. | ||
| Count the same and that was the thing was interesting like I was worried that it was gonna negatively affect my podcast because I was worried that I'd be too tired I come in here. | ||
| I just be ragdolled and beaten down, but I wasn't. | ||
| You had more energy, right? | ||
| I had a lot of energy like Jamie I didn't seem like any slower or anything did I? You know what fucks me up? | ||
| And we've talked about this before. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Fucking yoga classes. | ||
| Dude, when I do a 90-minute yoga class and I come in here, I am way more fucked up. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Mental energy with that. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| It's like what you're doing to elevate your heart rate is so much more exhausting to your muscles than, say, running. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Because you can't hold a yoga pose for as long as you can run. | ||
| You can run for hours. | ||
| And you've been doing it. | ||
| It's a movement you're doing. | ||
| And you're going left, right, left, right. | ||
| It's just like this steady push, relax, push, relax. | ||
| And your legs have like a half a second to recover with each step. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| But it's different. | ||
| Because yoga, you can never do that. | ||
| When you're in a yoga pose, like you're in a triangle pose or something like that, how long can you hold that? | ||
| Can you hold it a minute? | ||
| Can you hold it five minutes? | ||
| Maybe you're in fucking tremendous shape. | ||
| And you could do the bow pose where you hold your foot and you put it over behind you. | ||
| Maybe you could do that for five minutes if you were in fucking tremendous, tremendous shape. | ||
| But damn, that is hard to do. | ||
| What is that, Jamie? | ||
| Scorecard. | ||
| Everyone had green zombie up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Except for one judge. | ||
| Or one judge had it even going in. | ||
| Other judges had green on every card. | ||
| So someone had 2-2, others had 3-1. | ||
| 3-1, 3-1, 2-2. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| What a KO. What an amazing KO. Alright, let's wrap this bitch up. | ||
| Everybody out there being affected by the fires, we genuinely and sincerely hope you and your family are safe. | ||
| It sucks if you lose your place, but it's way worse if you're dead. | ||
| What's positive is your friends and your family and your loved ones, and that means a lot to me right now as I'm thinking about it, even though I'm evacuated. | ||
| I already know people that for sure have lost their houses. | ||
| But we'd feel a whole lot worse if we lost them. | ||
| It's hard to deal with. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| It's not a good thing. | ||
| But it's also a humbling reminder of where we are and that nature is a thing to be respected and feared. | ||
| And when fire gets out of hand, there's some serious fucking consequences. | ||
| And I don't know what solutions there are. | ||
| To fixing something like this. | ||
| But I think if there was an invading army that came here and did the kind of damage and devastation that these forest fires have done, there would be some serious steps to protect us against that army. | ||
| If there's a profit to be made in figuring out how to protect people from this kind of fucking horrendous fire... | ||
| I don't know what it would be. | ||
| I don't know what it would be hiring way more firefighters or putting way more precautions in place or hiring people and Donald Trump creating new jobs to clear all this dead wood in the forests and to figure out some way to get to the scene quicker and have flights that are ready on standby filled with water at all times. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck it would be, but it seems to me that these things When they get out of hand like this, leave people unusually helpless. | ||
| Like, we're oftentimes helpless to nature. | ||
| But this is one of those unusually helpless moments where it makes you really understand how dangerous fire is. | ||
| And nothing but love and respect out there for all the firefighters and first responders and all these people that are taking care of people. | ||
| And shout out to Whitney Cummings, saving animals. | ||
| Our girls out there in Malibu, saving animals, bringing them to shelters. | ||
| She saved horses and chickens and shit. | ||
| She loves animals. | ||
| Animals better than people, yeah. | ||
| She's always been an animal person. | ||
| Powerful Whitney Cummings. | ||
| All right, thank you to you all. | ||
| Much love. |
Export Selection