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Oct. 2, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:13:16
JRE MMA Show #43 with Brendan Schaub
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brendan schaub
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joe rogan
01:08:29
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jamie vernon
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brendan schaub
Still no main event for a mess quicker.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Four, three, two, one...
Booyah!
Yeah, no main event for Madison Square Garden so far.
The rumors were John Jones and Gustafson, but I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know why that hasn't materialized.
brendan schaub
Are they just waiting to announce it until after the whole Connor-Khabib thing?
joe rogan
Why would they do that?
I think if they announce something, it's got to be this weekend.
I mean, what is it, November 3rd or something?
brendan schaub
It's soon.
joe rogan
So it's a month.
brendan schaub
Super soon.
joe rogan
Literally a month.
Today's the third, right?
unidentified
Second?
joe rogan
Today's the second.
brendan schaub
Today's the second.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fuck, man.
That ain't good.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Maybe they just don't want to steal any shine from the Conor Khabib fight.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think they just don't have a card yet.
brendan schaub
I think they were banking on Jones to fill that main event, but it's been tricky to fill that slot.
But also...
Why not have, if you're going to do this, why not announce Nate Diaz-Dosin Poirier as your main event?
That's a great main event.
I can ride with that.
Why not do that and then announce John Jones and Gus Finn or John Jones and Kane if you want to?
joe rogan
But the main event is to be announced versus to be determined.
That's the weirdest main event I've ever seen.
I've never seen a fucking pay-per-view a month out that says to be announced versus to be determined in the main event.
jamie vernon
Does that mean they have somebody booked and then they're not an opponent for them and they're not announcing it?
Or they just decided to just be funny and write both verses?
joe rogan
That's a very good point, Jamie.
brendan schaub
That's a good point, Jamie.
joe rogan
That's a very good point.
brendan schaub
I would say they have no idea.
joe rogan
I think you just nailed it.
I think they have a guy that they want to fight another guy.
I'd heard, actually I heard from you.
They would try to do John Jones versus Kane.
brendan schaub
That was the rumor mill that I got.
Little birdie told me.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm all over that.
brendan schaub
I would be all over that.
This card's actually better than this weekend's card.
joe rogan
Stylebenders fighting Derek Brunson.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
That's the sleeper.
That's the sleeper on that card right there.
brendan schaub
We got Luke Rockwell, Chris Weidman, too.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
That's a good fight too.
brendan schaub
Jacare and David Branch ain't terrible either.
joe rogan
Where is Rockhold Weidman on there?
brendan schaub
The bottom middle.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
They're not in order yet.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
This thing's all over the place.
joe rogan
It's like a puzzle?
brendan schaub
The guy who runs the UFC website took the month off.
joe rogan
Rockhold vs.
Weidman.
Very interesting.
Listen, Gegard Mousasi, that guy is the fucking sleeper of the 185 pound division.
The fact that he went over to Bellator, very fucking fascinating to me.
He just wrecked Roy McDonald.
brendan schaub
Completely wrecked him.
It's tough to watch.
joe rogan
Roy should not be fighting at 185 pounds.
Especially against a guy who's fought at 205. He's held titles at 205. I agree.
brendan schaub
Especially a guy in Gegard Mousasi who's just as talented, just as skilled.
Maybe better.
Might be better in some other aspects.
Then when you go skill for skill, then size comes into play.
And you saw how that pans out.
joe rogan
Burt Crusher says Mousasi has a giant dick.
brendan schaub
How would he know?
joe rogan
He was in a sauna next to him.
brendan schaub
Oh, that makes sense, though.
You know what?
Mousasi has that big dick energy.
He just carries himself like a straight badass, doesn't he?
unidentified
He does.
brendan schaub
Nothing really gets him going.
You know why?
Because he's a giant dick.
joe rogan
Giant dick.
brendan schaub
You know what?
Bert's probably right on this.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
brendan schaub
God, this makes sense!
You're brilliant, Bert Kreischer.
joe rogan
Well, he saw it.
I mean, it's not even like he figured it out.
I mean, he's got, like, eyewitness.
brendan schaub
He's seen that thing.
unidentified
He's there.
joe rogan
He's in the room.
brendan schaub
Nothing's ever made more sense than that.
joe rogan
He's a hot cedar box with a big ol' sweaty dick.
brendan schaub
Dude, that gay guard Amsterdam dick.
Everyone's like, how come he doesn't get more emotional?
Because he has the fattest dick in the world.
joe rogan
He swore it was bigger than his fucking water bottle.
brendan schaub
I go, fatter?
unidentified
Fatter than a water bottle!
joe rogan
He goes, dude, I'm telling you, it was giant.
I'm like, wow.
unidentified
Alright.
brendan schaub
That makes sense, man.
joe rogan
It does make a lot of sense.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but Gegard, Mousasi, now Bellator's an interesting kind of predicament because they have that welterweight tournament going on.
Now you have your champ, who's going to enter the tournament as the title holder.
In the first round, he's supposed to fight John Fitch, who isn't an easy fight, but he's just coming off a loss and got destroyed.
And also, it looks like he had some nose damage, which was his issue before.
joe rogan
Yeah, his nose had been fucked up for a long time, and he decided to take a whole year off just to try to fix his nose, just to try to let it heal.
brendan schaub
That's serious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A whole year off.
I mean, think about it.
That was like part of the delay in his initial fight in Bellator.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Was that he left the UFC, you know, his nose got smashed in the Robbie Lawler fight.
I mean, that was hard to watch.
Remember when he was in agony on the ground because his nose was just shattered?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he said every time he'd get hit, it'd just go white like sparks.
He couldn't see anything.
unidentified
Oof.
joe rogan
It was a bad injury, man.
brendan schaub
Well, hey, there it is.
There it is.
One of the best fights of all time, by the way.
One of the greatest fights, for sure.
He earned that shit.
But now, with Rory, you know, what's sad too, and it's happened to me, it's happened to some other fighters, I'm sure, but Rory goes, I just didn't feel like fighting.
I wasn't in the zone.
Just didn't feel like fighting Gagard Misasi that night.
unidentified
Whew.
brendan schaub
That's an annoying gay guard, you know, Musashi.
He doesn't get enough recognition how good he is.
He's an absolute monster.
joe rogan
You've got to think about all the guys that he's beaten.
He's on like a six or seven fight win streak, which includes Chris Weidman, Vitor Belfort, Talos Letis.
Who's the guy in Bellator, the former champion?
unidentified
Shlomenko?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I won't call him Shevchenko, that's fucked up, that's the girl.
Shlomenko, something like that, yeah.
He's an absolute nightmare.
joe rogan
He's a monster.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
I'm surprised the UFC let him go.
Now, when I say let him go, it just didn't match his contract, you know, because Bellator probably offered more, and they're like, ah, we're good.
The UFC could use him right now at 185. They certainly could, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, it's like they had Yoel Romero, they've got Robert Rittiger, who's the champ, they've got so much going on at 185, but...
Gegard might be the best.
I mean he's certainly in the running.
If you looked at it objectively...
It's entirely possible.
If he's not number one, he's number two.
brendan schaub
Top three, easily.
joe rogan
Number three, yeah.
brendan schaub
But also, you look at his fight, if him and Robert Whittaker were to fight, that's not an easy pick-em fight.
You'd be like, damn, that's a fucking fight.
joe rogan
You're my favorite gate guard.
brendan schaub
You don't know.
For how big and long he is and scrapping.
joe rogan
Listen, Robert Whittaker is a monster.
He's phenomenal.
But so is Musashi.
So is Mousasi.
And Mousasi has a full game, man.
His ground game is phenomenal.
brendan schaub
And the biggest dick in the division.
joe rogan
Giant dick.
brendan schaub
That has to be taken into consideration for all this.
joe rogan
No, Yoel's, I bet it's bigger.
brendan schaub
No way.
I bet it's bigger.
unidentified
No, bro.
brendan schaub
He doesn't carry that energy.
He's too aggressive.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
Yeah, when you're that aggressive, you don't have that fat of a dick.
joe rogan
There's no way he looks like that and doesn't have a big dick.
brendan schaub
I don't know, dude.
You see Batman?
Batman the comic drew a dick, and he's...
That's Batman.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, Batman has a dick now.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
The new comic, there's this new kind of X-rated Batman they're coming out with, and they show Batman's dick.
That's how I pictured...
joe rogan
This isn't even bad.
brendan schaub
Yo, Romero.
joe rogan
This isn't bad.
These are millennials.
This is nonsense.
These are fucking millennials that think they're going to rewrite history.
They're making Iron Man a woman.
They're crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
These people are out of their fucking mind.
Captain America's now a woman.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Well, I'm just saying, man.
joe rogan
Iron Man's probably gay.
There's a weird revolution right now in comics because they're trying to sort of social justice warrior up all the comedy, all the comic books.
What's going on?
What are you laughing at?
It is true.
brendan schaub
It is true.
Hulk Hogan's...
joe rogan
Look at this.
DC Comics, sorry for showing everyone Batman's penis.
brendan schaub
That's your old Romero, bro.
No, it's good size.
joe rogan
That's not real.
That's not real.
See, that's a comic book, and it's a comic book that's...
By the way, it was created in like...
Let's just take a guess when Batman was created.
brendan schaub
I'm going to guess like 1940. Super old school, 1940s, 1950s.
joe rogan
You can't rewrite Batman's dick in 2018. Also, think about the guy drawing it.
brendan schaub
Probably didn't have the biggest dick.
joe rogan
Probably his tiny little dick.
brendan schaub
And just mad.
But maybe he thought that was massive.
joe rogan
Probably thought it was the biggest dick he's ever seen.
Probably scared to watch porn.
brendan schaub
And then got backlash.
He's like, what the fuck?
I thought this was a big cock.
And was like, no, dude!
joe rogan
Not for Batman.
brendan schaub
It's Batman, you prick.
joe rogan
Batman's the weirdest superhero ever because he's basically just a rich guy.
brendan schaub
He's Elon Musk on steroids and can fight.
He's Elon Musk.
joe rogan
Yeah, basically.
brendan schaub
That's what he is.
joe rogan
With a bunch of stuff.
brendan schaub
Yeah, no special skills.
joe rogan
Well, he knows how to fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he doesn't have any superpower.
brendan schaub
There's nothing.
He's just a rich dude.
joe rogan
That's why I got angry at that Batman vs.
Superman movie.
I'm like, bitch, Superman would...
First of all, he moves so fast he can make the Earth spin backwards in reverse time.
brendan schaub
Dude, he has lasers in his eyes for God.
There's no fight.
joe rogan
But they're like...
unidentified
But Batman made a suit out of Kryptonite.
joe rogan
Superman would fuck him up before he even got the suit on.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's not even a fight.
jamie vernon
How's Lex Luthor a valiant, like, adversary for him then?
joe rogan
It's not.
jamie vernon
Okay, well.
joe rogan
He just is bored.
brendan schaub
He's bored.
joe rogan
Keeps that dude around like a side piece.
He just wants to have some fun.
He's like, let this guy pretend he's kicking my ass.
brendan schaub
Venom drops this weekend.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Tom Hardy?
brendan schaub
You know what?
Maybe I'm just a Debbie Downer, but I don't know.
It looks all right to me.
And I know I love Tom Hardy, too.
joe rogan
Venom is like an evil Spider-Man?
Like, what is that?
brendan schaub
He's like Spider-Man's alien...
joe rogan
It's an alien?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's an alien element that grabs someone's body.
jamie vernon
It's an alien that merges with his body.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he's evil.
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
Fucking kids today.
brendan schaub
I know.
I know, man.
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, I guess it's better than remaking the Hulk for the 98th time.
brendan schaub
I'll take it.
joe rogan
I mean, how many Spider-Mans are there now?
There's like 80 Spider-Mans.
Whenever Spider-Man starts making some money, they go like, nah, playa.
We got a new one.
unidentified
We need a new one, bro.
brendan schaub
We got a new one.
Tobey Maguire's my Spider-Man.
If you're Spider-Man's anyone else, fuck you.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck you.
That's the real Spider-Man.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
They had two new ones since him, right?
What?
Hasn't it been two?
One guy that never even got any traction.
jamie vernon
Tom Holland.
joe rogan
Who the fuck's Tom Holland?
Sorry, Tom.
I'm sure you're wonderful.
brendan schaub
They want to make Donald Glover Spider-Man.
jamie vernon
I think he's the voice in this cartoon they just announced today.
This comes out.
joe rogan
Into the Spider-Verse gets stunning new trailer ahead of New York Comic-Con.
I was talking to Chris Pratt about Comic-Con.
brendan schaub
What'd he say?
joe rogan
You know, because he's got to go there for Guardians of the Galaxy.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude, he's probably like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
He's like, he goes, I'm in the middle of this place, and I just said to myself...
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't belong here.
brendan schaub
It's a different vibe.
joe rogan
He is the nicest guy.
brendan schaub
He goes to a bunch of UFC events, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's been to one.
There's only one.
brendan schaub
Is that where you talked to him at?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He came hunting with us in Utah.
brendan schaub
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's the fucking nicest guy.
Like, so normal around everybody.
brendan schaub
Good hunter?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Real good.
Good Archer.
brendan schaub
People forget he started off as a comedian actor.
Yes.
He was like the funny guy.
joe rogan
What was that show he was on?
The Office?
jamie vernon
Parks and Rec.
brendan schaub
Parks and Rec, yeah.
He was like the funny guy.
joe rogan
He was pudgy back then.
Now he's all jacked.
brendan schaub
Isn't it weird someone was like, dude, you're going to be the next action hero.
He's like, what?
Here's a boatload of steroids to do that.
joe rogan
I don't even think it was that.
I think he just lost the weight and everybody went, oh, you know, he was a wrestler in high school and college.
brendan schaub
Was he really?
In college?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Good wrestler.
brendan schaub
I saw him wrestling with Noguera.
He actually looked pretty good.
joe rogan
Who's wrestling with Noguera?
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's a video of him wrestling with Noguera Brothers.
Yeah, and I was like, damn, that dude knows what he's doing.
I had no idea he was wrestling in high school.
joe rogan
He bought a farm outside of Seattle.
And raises animals and actually has like a farm, like a real, I think the way they call it, just like very humane, ethical treatment of the animals.
Like the animals are all like super adjusted to human beings and then when they whack them, they just take them into a room and put one in their brain.
brendan schaub
And he does it, or this is just his career?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's him and Nogueira.
brendan schaub
Yeah, look at this.
But for, you know, I had no idea.
I just thought he was a normal actor.
Most of the time when you watch actors, you're like, look at this bullshit.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, he knows how to wrestle.
brendan schaub
But you look at his setup, everything, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, he knows how to wrestle.
He wrestled in college and in high school.
brendan schaub
Well, you know, if he's feeling frisky, the UFC's looking for fighters these days.
I don't know what he's looking to do.
joe rogan
Good luck paying that guy.
That guy's making $20 million a movie.
How the fuck are you going to pay him for that?
brendan schaub
We'll figure it out.
joe rogan
That's Star-Lord, bro.
brendan schaub
I know.
Come up with your own whiskey, bro.
joe rogan
Who's someone else besides Star-Lord, too?
What other movies does he do?
brendan schaub
He's Garnet Galaxy.
jamie vernon
Jurassic Park.
brendan schaub
That's right.
Oh, dude.
Jurassic Park 2. He's the dinosaur wrangler, bro.
joe rogan
He's the dinosaur wrangler, Jurassic Park.
And he speaks to the Lord.
And here's the thing.
He came in, like, you know, there was already Jurassic Park before.
And he came in with a new Jurassic Park.
brendan schaub
With the hotness.
joe rogan
With no hiccups.
unidentified
Zero.
joe rogan
No one was like, bullshit with this new Jurassic Park.
There was none of that.
brendan schaub
It got better.
joe rogan
Yeah, it got better.
brendan schaub
Well, the animation got better, too.
unidentified
The animation got way better.
brendan schaub
The dinosaurs got super legit.
I haven't seen the newest one, though.
joe rogan
It's fucking badass.
brendan schaub
Is it good?
joe rogan
Yeah, loved it.
Loved it.
Freaked my kid out, though.
The little one had to bury her head in my armpit during some of the scenes.
Yeah, those fucking things are scary and shit.
brendan schaub
These things look legit.
joe rogan
They look real.
brendan schaub
You know they're redoing the dress park ride at Universal.
joe rogan
They're redoing it?
Yeah, they should.
It's whack as fuck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, now it's just that T-Rex.
I heard an interview.
The guy was like, no, we're redoing it with all the new dinosaurs and everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some good shit at Universal.
And then there's some stuff that you're like, what?
brendan schaub
Old school.
joe rogan
Well, you know what's badass?
The Harry Potter ride.
Have you taken Little Man to the Harry Potter ride?
brendan schaub
No, he's not big enough still.
He's only two and a half.
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
I think you have to be like 40 inches or some shit.
But the Jurassic Park ride is whack.
You know what's great?
The Simpsons.
brendan schaub
Simpsons is dope.
I've done Simpsons.
joe rogan
Hilarious!
brendan schaub
Simpsons is great.
joe rogan
That's a great ride.
brendan schaub
Dude, as a grown-ass man, I got a babysitter for my kid, and me and my girl went to Six Flags.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, Six Flags is badass.
brendan schaub
So much fun.
joe rogan
You know what's surprisingly good?
Knott's Berry Farms.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
It's very old school, a little vintage.
joe rogan
Some of the fucking rides are amazing!
brendan schaub
To me, they're a little suspect, like a year ago.
joe rogan
Suspect like they might break?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Like the wood roller coaster.
joe rogan
I'm like, really?
I didn't go on that one.
brendan schaub
It's like rattling.
Like, when's the last time someone checked this goddamn thing?
joe rogan
I didn't go on that one, but I went on one where you're sitting in your seat like this, right?
And then you go like this.
Clink!
You go straight up.
So your back, like if you fell, you would fall right on your back.
And then you get to the top, and you pause, and then they turn you like this, and then it's, yeah!
brendan schaub
That's pretty fun.
joe rogan
That's pretty fun.
It was the best roller coasters I've ever been on.
brendan schaub
Knotts, I have skeptical hippo eyes, because when you get there, their whole theme is Charlie Brown.
It's like, who the fuck's watching Charlie Brown these days?
Everyone asks, there's Spider-Man, Marvel, Disney with Mickey, they got Charlie Brown.
My kid's like, who the fuck is Charlie Brown?
joe rogan
I didn't even notice Charlie Brown.
It was all like, there's a Wild West theme area.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's random as shit.
joe rogan
It's a bunch of random weird things.
brendan schaub
But their main slogan is Charlie Brown.
joe rogan
Well, we had a good time.
Me and the family had a good time.
brendan schaub
We had a good time, man.
joe rogan
You know what, I'll tell you what though, overall best ride I've ever been on 100% is Disney World, the Jurassic, not the Jurassic Park, the Avatar ride.
The Avatar ride in Orlando, it's called Flights of Passage I think it is.
Dude, It's beyond the greatest ride ever.
It's all virtual reality.
You climb into a chair like you're on a motorcycle.
It pushes against your back, and you settle into this thing, and then you put these goggles on, like this headset thing on, and you're in full virtual reality, and this is it.
Yeah, damn.
This is the one where you're on the boat.
There's two actual Avatar rides.
This one's pretty dope, too.
brendan schaub
That looks legit.
That looks like Avatar World.
joe rogan
Yeah, this one, that's pretty dope, too.
That one, you're on a boat like Pirates of the Caribbean.
Yeah, this is it.
brendan schaub
I like the boat.
joe rogan
The boat's pretty badass.
But this one, you're flying in full virtual reality while you're riding on the back of one of those dragon things.
No, no, no.
This isn't doing it.
When you're there.
Yeah.
And if they film their screen, they're not even filming their screen in 3D, right?
So he's just using his cell phone.
That's why it looks all blurry.
brendan schaub
Is the line long as shit?
joe rogan
Long as shit.
And then while you're doing it, you get breezes in your face and you smell things.
It's fucking incredible, man.
It feels real.
It's the best ride I've ever been on, by far.
I've been on some dope rides.
That's numero uno with a bullet.
brendan schaub
By far.
joe rogan
By far.
brendan schaub
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did it two times in a row.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm a sucker for the...
I'm old school.
I like the Haunted Mansion.
Haunted Mansion's badass.
It's one of the old school ones, man.
And then they put in...
What is it?
Nightmare Before Christmas?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Big Jack?
joe rogan
Yeah, right around Halloween time.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I love Halloween.
Love it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Have you taken him to Disneyland yet?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Season pass.
joe rogan
Oh, it's the shit, right?
brendan schaub
Sometimes I feel like he's getting spoiled because, you know, when I'm working, my girl, I take him and her friends and they go.
He's going.
When he's not in school, he's in school now, but two times a week?
You know what I'm saying?
To Disneyland?
Oh, yeah.
They go just to chill.
joe rogan
That's pretty crazy.
brendan schaub
The little dude's screwed when he gets older.
joe rogan
I know.
That is crazy.
unidentified
So spoiled.
brendan schaub
It was such a big deal when I was a kid.
It was such a big deal.
joe rogan
Didn't you go with Joey Diaz and Joey's family?
Did you go with Joey and Joey's family?
brendan schaub
No, that was Eddie.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Eddie won.
Yeah, that's got to be a trip.
Yeah.
Disneyland, when you have kids, becomes a totally different thing.
brendan schaub
It's a special place.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, before I had kids, I was like, I'm not going to fucking Disneyland.
You know?
Like, if I was 20 and someone said, hey man, you want to go to Disneyland?
I'd be like, why?
What are we going to do?
We're going to ride a roller coaster and wait for an hour and a half?
brendan schaub
Split a funnel cake and suck each other off?
What's wrong with you, man?
joe rogan
And those, what are those fucking, those, the ones, the brown sugar churros.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude, I love a nice churro.
joe rogan
Goddamn, those are hard to pass out.
God, the smell.
brendan schaub
Dude, you can't be on a diet and go to Disneyland.
joe rogan
It's hard.
jamie vernon
The almonds, they have the almond almonds.
brendan schaub
They get you, bro.
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah.
Roasted almonds.
joe rogan
The churros do?
jamie vernon
No, not in the churro, but the stands all over the place.
unidentified
The machines?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they have the candied almonds.
joe rogan
No, they have one thing that's guilt-free, though.
That big old turkey leg.
That smoked turkey leg.
brendan schaub
That thing makes me feel sick when I see just these enormous people just chowing down, and then the meat's all pink in the middle for whatever reason.
joe rogan
Well, it's smoked.
brendan schaub
Is everyone out of shape at Disneyland?
unidentified
It's a weird vibe.
joe rogan
They're just not out of shape.
They're ambulatory.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's more people that can't walk.
They're just on scooters because they got so big, their body just stopped moving.
brendan schaub
God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's a strange vibe there.
You can't be on a diet and go to an amusement park.
joe rogan
You gotta accept that you're gonna fuck off that day.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
That's a fuck off day.
That's like, we're gonna get some ice cream, I'm gonna drink a regular soda.
brendan schaub
Do I tell you where else you can't be on a diet?
Chicago.
I was there a few weeks ago.
I went, fuck it.
joe rogan
Did you go to Luminati's?
brendan schaub
I ate every pizza.
And I apologized to every crowd beforehand.
joe rogan
That is not a pizza.
That is a goddamn casserole.
brendan schaub
It is a straight...
It's a casserole.
It's a lasagna.
It's a pie.
Dude, I felt so sick after them.
But it was so nice going down.
I felt so sick.
joe rogan
That's a weird sacrifice, right?
You decide, I'm going to be sick for a few hours, for just a few seconds of mouth pleasure.
brendan schaub
Yeah, like, again, I apologize to the crowds.
I'm like, you shouldn't be doing this, man.
This is like a fighter missing weight.
Like, it's such an asshole move.
My face is all swollen from the sodium.
joe rogan
Look at that.
unidentified
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
Which one was that?
brendan schaub
That was at the place where, uh, it's the famous place, um, the Grindr, something, the Grindr, where it comes in a bowl, and it's where, uh...
joe rogan
Grindr is, that is a gay, um, dating app.
brendan schaub
That's a gay site, yeah, but it's also a delicious pizza, Chicago pizza.
joe rogan
Chicago Grindr?
brendan schaub
Oven and Grindr.
Oven Grindr.
joe rogan
I wonder if they're bummed out that Grindr is all...
brendan schaub
It's all motherfucker.
joe rogan
...sucking dicks and butt-fucking.
brendan schaub
I know, you thought you were gonna get a deep dish and a blowjob or some shit.
joe rogan
Here's a deep dish, bitch.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
brendan schaub
But it's that same place where Al Capone and his men staked out before they did the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
So it's like a historic place.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's old as fuck.
brendan schaub
Two hour wait.
unidentified
Whoa!
brendan schaub
Two hour wait.
joe rogan
You waited two hours for food.
brendan schaub
Two hour wait.
joe rogan
It's a two hour wait.
brendan schaub
It's a two hour wait.
I put my name and strolled around.
joe rogan
Good move.
brendan schaub
I know.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
There's no freebies here.
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
That's a lot of food, man.
They don't fuck around.
People get cold.
That's the thing.
If you live in a place where people get cold, like Boston or Chicago, people get thick.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
It's tough to work out in the cold, man.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
It insulates you.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
You don't want to be shredded.
Shredded.
joe rogan
Shredded near that water.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
The wind comes off that lake.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
joe rogan
You ever been to Chicago in January?
brendan schaub
Yes.
unidentified
Woo!
brendan schaub
Miserable.
joe rogan
Cold as fuck.
brendan schaub
Not my cup of tea.
joe rogan
It's a great place to perform though.
brendan schaub
Yeah, love Chicago.
joe rogan
Audiences are amazing.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
joe rogan
They're just fun.
They're fun people.
You know what they are?
They're a unique combination of like the Midwest And a giant city.
Same as Toronto.
Toronto's like that too.
brendan schaub
Love Toronto.
joe rogan
But it's the same kind of vibe.
It's a weird combination of like really nice, almost small town people that live in a giant urban city.
brendan schaub
And Toronto's a melting pot.
To me, Toronto reminds me of New York, not with the hustle and cleaner.
joe rogan
Yeah, way cleaner.
brendan schaub
I love Toronto.
joe rogan
More polite people, too.
brendan schaub
Way nicer.
joe rogan
You get Indian people, Pakistani, black, Asian, white, European.
You get everybody in Toronto.
brendan schaub
Now, on the other end of that, I was just in Seattle, Washington, and the crowd was all white.
joe rogan
That is the white capital.
brendan schaub
I was the darkest dude in the building.
joe rogan
Yeah, them in Portland, they're white as fuck.
Even if you're black, after a few generations, you just turn white.
brendan schaub
And you start talking white.
joe rogan
If you bring your family up there, and you plan on staking out a black existence in Portland...
brendan schaub
Good luck.
joe rogan
Good luck.
Even if your kids only date other black kids, after like a hundred years, everyone's gonna be white.
brendan schaub
Everyone.
There's no son!
joe rogan
There's no son.
That son for three months a year?
Look, there's a reason why people became white.
I mean, everyone really comes from Africa.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's one of the real reasons why racism is so stupid.
Every single fucking human being came from Africa, just like every single fucking dog came from a wolf.
Every person started out as an African.
It's just as we move to shittier and shittier places with less and less sun, your body adapted.
And basically, white skin is like a big old solar panel for vitamin B. Or vitamin D, rather.
brendan schaub
And obviously, we don't.
I don't know anyone who is racist these days, though.
They're out there for sure.
But I don't...
I don't have anyone that I even, you know, associate with.
But even like jokingly or like, I don't like Asians or I don't like...
That is exhausting.
I don't know any.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Or any that are doing well.
joe rogan
No.
It's a stupid mindset.
It's a stupid mindset.
It just really is.
It's dumb.
It's just, I mean...
brendan schaub
It's very old school.
joe rogan
Well, it's just, it doesn't benefit you in any way.
It's super detrimental.
For your view of the world, the way you interact with people, it's dumb.
I mean, I know so many cool people of every single race.
Like, you know?
I mean, why would you...
brendan schaub
It's so stupid.
It's like judging white people off a few small portion sample size of, like, mass shooters.
Like the dumbasses shoot up the high schools.
joe rogan
Well, there's, you know, there's, like, blowback the other way, right?
Like, there's a lot of people who think it's okay to be racist against white people.
Because so many white people have been racist in the past, but that's just as foolish and just as short-sighted.
brendan schaub
Everyone's different.
Yeah, it's all stupid.
joe rogan
It's like today, with all this Me Too stuff, it seems like it's okay to be sexist against men.
Yeah.
Because there are awful men out there.
But there's also men that are nice, and they're going to be nice to you.
brendan schaub
There's also some awful women out there who do have other agendas when they come out with these Me Too claims.
There's a lot of that.
joe rogan
What you're seeing.
We're seeing these cases now.
We're seeing these cases get exposed for what they are.
The problem is that it casts doubt on legitimate cases.
What is going on with my throat?
Something about these goddamn caveman coffees.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Early in the morning.
brendan schaub
That makes me think.
I'm good, though.
Sometimes it's dairy.
Did you think if you were in Louis C.K.'s shoes, do you think he came back too soon?
joe rogan
I don't think it's that he came back too soon.
What I honestly think is he should say something more than what he already said.
brendan schaub
Not just go up like it's all good and like, alright.
joe rogan
There's not just, I mean, he said, he put out, released a statement, these stories are true.
They happened a long time ago, right?
They happened like more than a decade ago.
I think...
And I think it might be even better to release a video rather than a written statement.
Because a written statement, the problem is it's impersonal.
It's personal.
It's not as impactful.
But what is he going to say?
It's like, I can't fix it.
Maybe if he donated a certain amount of money to certain causes or...
Spent you know time in therapy or talked about it and it's and maybe expressed himself and said that what was you know What was going on in his mind during that time when he did the thing and why it was wrong and how he's changed his way and how bad he feels about it, how he's apologized to these people.
brendan schaub
I think you get all that done by just doing a video with his...
I think it would go so much further for him if he didn't have a big production.
He's a creative dude, obviously a great comedian.
If you just went off the top of his head straight into the camera and post on Instagram.
I was like, hey man, I've paid a price.
I've learned I have daughters.
It was a horrible thing that I did.
joe rogan
You mean even stay away from I've paid a price?
Because people don't really want to hear that shit.
Like, what is the price?
brendan schaub
But they don't think he has.
joe rogan
Well, they're crazy.
He's lost millions of dollars.
brendan schaub
They don't realize that.
They think, oh, he's fine and she's back on the road and touring and he's going to be a millionaire.
Well, he's lost a ton of money off his shows, FX deal, development deal.
joe rogan
And more importantly, his daughters have this image of him being this guy who jerks off in front of women.
brendan schaub
That's never going to go away either.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
So that's a pretty heavy stamp.
Which is deserved.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
Maybe not forever, but...
joe rogan
But it's a complicated issue.
You know, it's complicated, like, what was his psychology, what was going on in his mind that allowed him to do that.
Apparently, he just started going up again.
He just went up again Sunday night.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he just went up, and I guess the owner of the club was like, dude, I didn't know I was asleep.
He went up.
You know, it's the crowd's discretion if they want to stay or leave, but...
joe rogan
Well, the first time, the owner was upset, and the second time, they said, Something along the lines of, if anyone has an issue with someone who stops in, aka Louie, I mean, it's only Louie, maybe Aziz, I guess.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Well, no.
Yeah, apparently some people got upset about Aziz, too.
brendan schaub
Still?
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, look, people just like targets.
They like targets.
brendan schaub
They like negativity.
joe rogan
They like negativity, but they also like targets.
When they find someone who's a viable target, someone who's done something they can criticize, and they go, you!
What have you done?
You!
Oh, you're still alive.
There's people that just want to decide that someone's a horrible person, and they don't have this really well-thought-out Comprehensive view of the situation.
They just attack.
There's a lot of those people out there, man.
And they think that they're justified.
Particularly if that person's famous and they're not.
They think it's fair game.
brendan schaub
Public forum.
joe rogan
So people were definitely upset at Aziz, but much more upset about Louis.
brendan schaub
Oh, 100%.
joe rogan
When you stop and think about what Louis actually did, creepy yes, asked women if he could jerk off in front of them.
They said yes, he did it.
If they said no, he didn't.
I mean, it's fucking...
Look, if you're working with a guy like that, he's like, can I jerk off in front of you?
Like, Jesus Christ.
Can you imagine?
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
It would be a shitty work environment for sure.
unidentified
Terrible.
brendan schaub
And he is not handsome.
unidentified
He is...
brendan schaub
Louie, I love you.
Brutal to look at.
You know what I'm saying?
He's harsh on the eyes.
It's not like Brad Pitt's asking to jack off in front of you.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Not that it's ever right, but do less on the feelings if Brad Pitt's yanking in front of you.
joe rogan
I mean...
All of it.
All of it's no bueno.
brendan schaub
It's a whole mess.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, he obviously had some sort of a weird kink, you know?
brendan schaub
I wonder what that is.
Probably started in childhood, maybe got caught and then got off on it.
joe rogan
Right, right.
brendan schaub
Or he just never got chicks and now he has this power because he's such a...
joe rogan
He didn't have the power when he started doing it, though, man.
When he started doing it, he wasn't really famous.
He was respected, but he wasn't really famous.
But he was like his now, yeah.
No.
Which is...
It's, you know, it's awful.
But it's...
It's just the thing that he's stuck with now.
So he's got to figure out how to ingratiate himself.
He's got to figure out how to re-emerge.
And I think...
brendan schaub
He can do it.
joe rogan
I think he can do it.
brendan schaub
Sure he can do it.
joe rogan
Look, he's not an awful person.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I just think he did some stupid things that were really gross and weird.
But...
If he just, I mean, and he has owned up to it.
I think he just, you know, makes some sort of a sincere apology and then does something.
Like, what could you do to, I mean, what do you have?
brendan schaub
Help female comics, maybe?
joe rogan
He's done that.
He's tried to help.
But a lot of people accused him of trying to help them to try to cover up his tracks.
brendan schaub
Well, fuck, man.
He has to do something.
He has to go back to work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, it's been a year now, right?
It's a year next month.
I think to expect him to just never work again seems ridiculous, and to not forgive him.
There has to be a path to redemption for anyone who's done anything other than actual rape or murder, right?
For Bill Cosby, I'm very happy he's locked up.
I think what he did is awful.
Can you imagine being one of those girls that turned to him as a mentor, and you wake up, and you've been violated while you're alcohol, and you're drugged, and you're confused, and Bill Cosby did it to you.
And who the fuck is going to believe that?
His image is...
That's the thing about Louis, right?
Louis' image was like, he's a pervert.
He's a weirdo.
He's always talking about jerking off.
When you found out Louis C.K. asked girls if he could jerk off in front of him and did it, it's not the most surprising thing.
But with Bill Cosby, here's a guy who is, and I'm not comparing the acts at all, but I'm just saying as far as famous people have done something that became a scandal, with Bill Cosby, he was this moral guy.
He was this ethics guy, and he wore sweaters.
brendan schaub
America's dad.
joe rogan
He was America's dad.
And to find out that that guy was drugging and raping women, He's in fucking jail right now, which is crazy, right?
brendan schaub
He's gonna die, I give it, what, over and under a week?
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
That's the way it goes with those old dudes.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He's 81. His eyes are so crazy.
joe rogan
He can't see.
brendan schaub
I think the one's good.
But the left one's all over the goddamn place.
joe rogan
Which one is the one?
I thought the right one was wack.
brendan schaub
I think it's this one, but it is fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's looking the wrong way.
It's going on its own way.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's what you get, man.
He's going to die any day now.
joe rogan
I think a path to redemption or a path to retribution would be good.
A path to forgiveness.
I think that's important for...
All human beings who've made mistakes.
brendan schaub
I think it's important.
joe rogan
We can't just cast people out if they've made mistakes.
brendan schaub
I agree.
I also think it's important too with all this stuff is like Louis C.K. got lumped in with the big dogs like Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.
Then there's Louis C.K. Man, there is definitely different levels to this.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
These fucking crimes.
joe rogan
No question.
No question.
brendan schaub
How about one that flies under the radar, especially here in America, and I was just reading about it.
How true it is, who knows, is with Ronaldo.
In soccer, ask your boy Ian Edwards.
joe rogan
He's a super superstar.
brendan schaub
Superstar.
It would be like Conor McGregor getting caught doing something in our world.
joe rogan
This is a new one, right?
brendan schaub
This is a new one, yeah.
This girl, she said he kept telling him no and then he anally raped her and then paid her $375,000 to keep quiet.
Now she's coming back out.
But who knows?
joe rogan
Human beings.
We're capable of such amazing things and such fucking awful things.
brendan schaub
Might have to look that up, Jamie.
I might have been dreaming.
joe rogan
No, I think you're right about that.
brendan schaub
My brother told me about it.
He's usually on it.
jamie vernon
That's what I just read in the New York Post.
joe rogan
Yeah, we should probably go back to fights, right?
brendan schaub
Renato likes that booty.
Yeah, we should go back to fights.
I don't know how we get that.
Dude, how excited are you about your special being dropped today?
Nervous at all?
joe rogan
I was nervous before, yeah.
brendan schaub
Are you nervous about it?
Yeah, because it's a body of work you've been doing forever.
joe rogan
I cared about it.
I worked on it for two fucking years, you know?
brendan schaub
And you edited it yourself?
joe rogan
Reviews are awesome.
Came out great.
brendan schaub
I heard it's great.
joe rogan
I'm excited.
You know, it's the best...
I think the best one I've ever done.
I really do.
I think the last one, I think Triggered was the best one, and I think this one's better than that.
brendan schaub
That's how it should go, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's how it should go.
Just keep working, keep...
Keep trying to refine it and raise my standards.
I learned some stuff.
Out of all these years doing stand-up, I'm still learning.
I learned some stuff in the editing process.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I learned some stuff just watching.
I think I listen to recordings all the time, but I think I'm going to step my game up now.
After talking to Bert Kreischer yesterday, Bert, he records audio and he also records video, and I think I'm going to start recording video of all my shows too now.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
Yeah, because when you're doing these giant theaters, so there's not video.
Because when I was at parlor, wherever I go, they usually have video capabilities, so I get all the video.
joe rogan
That's nice.
brendan schaub
I always get the video.
joe rogan
Well, the Ice House can do that for me.
That's true.
And I could definitely get someone to do that for me at the store.
But I just think...
It's critical to see the way you move as well as here.
You've got to analyze all that shit and try to figure out what...
You've got to be natural and in the moment, but you've also got to analyze all the particulars and find out what...
I would watch two or three different sets because I filmed four shows, and I was like, why didn't I do that in the second show?
The way I did it there, that's the way to do it, but I did it differently in this other show.
brendan schaub
I think the shitty part is watching yourself and listening to yourself.
It takes a real type of asshole to do that.
Right?
unidentified
It's the worst.
joe rogan
It takes a real type of asshole to like it.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
That was good.
And it's you.
Well, it's pretty good.
joe rogan
Have you ever been over someone's house and they make you watch something that they did?
brendan schaub
Dude.
This quarterback, Vinny Testaverde, he was a first-round draft pick.
He played forever.
We went to his house and he made me watch...
The recap of his last football season, a two-hour NFL films recap of the Baltimore Ravens, and it was a nightmare.
He made you watch a recap?
Dude, it was so boring.
Shut the fuck up.
I promise I want to put a fucking bullet through my head.
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
But out of the respect of Vinny Tessaverde, and he beat my ass in basketball before that, I stayed there and watched it.
Who does that, though?
joe rogan
I heard about a dude who, he had a party over his house, and then when the people were over there, he made them listen to him sing a song.
brendan schaub
Is it Brian Callen?
joe rogan
Nope.
brendan schaub
Just kidding.
joe rogan
Some other guy.
brendan schaub
I know who you're talking about, because I think I was there.
joe rogan
He played music and sang and was serious.
brendan schaub
During the middle of the Super Bowl, sir, put the Super Bowl on pause, and his band struck up a fucking song.
I looked around and went...
Is everyone a terrorist here?
What the fuck is happening?
Why is the game paused?
I'm from Denver, Colorado.
If you don't put that goddamn drumstick down, I'm going to flip the fuck out.
That was the most Hollywood thing I've ever seen in my life.
I went, well, I feel sick, and I'm going to leave now.
I feel very sick.
In the middle of the fucking game, man, my Broncos were playing too.
unidentified
People are so strange, man.
brendan schaub
I'm like, what the fuck?
That's the most Hollywood thing I've ever seen in my life.
Where I felt sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen many of those.
I was over at someone's house once, and this guy ran outside to his car to get a video to get us to watch a music video that he did, which was one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life.
brendan schaub
People are great.
joe rogan
And it was a music video, and it was a music video that looked like it was made for about $3.
brendan schaub
Oh, God.
joe rogan
And I was just like, what the fuck?
And he's like singing all sincere in this music video, and we're all sitting around like we have to watch.
brendan schaub
Like what the fuck?
joe rogan
It's torture.
Just compressing my chest in a vice.
I'm like, I can't breathe!
brendan schaub
But you've never seen comics play their hour special when they've had people over.
joe rogan
I haven't seen that yet, but I'm sure it's happening.
brendan schaub
That's happening right now as we speak.
joe rogan
Right now, there's a guy who's like, come on, everybody sit down, sit down.
It's time for my special.
brendan schaub
Come on, everyone get around.
unidentified
Yeah, alright, yeah.
brendan schaub
Alright, we should probably talk fighting though.
joe rogan
What are you laughing at?
Bert did that?
Bert Gresher did that?
No, he did that with his family, though.
They had, like, a screening.
No, but they had, like, a specifically...
brendan schaub
Was it friends and...
It's friends, too?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he...
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
That's...
joe rogan
I hear you.
This is a different thing.
Like, he invited them to a screening of his special, where that was the purpose.
It wasn't like he threw it on in the middle of a party.
Everybody sit down!
unidentified
Sit down!
joe rogan
Try to watch my special!
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a little weird.
joe rogan
Bert, I'm enjoying the music, and I got pizza here!
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's a little different.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's different.
unidentified
Yeah, I like that, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No, it was a screening, and his agents were there, and his managers were there, and people that worked at his...
brendan schaub
Do you have family come to your shooting your specials?
joe rogan
No!
Me neither.
No!
brendan schaub
I don't like them at the show.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
You know, if someone from my family comes and watches me, I mean, they come to a show.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but they're not coming to the shooting of your specials.
joe rogan
And I don't ever ask them to.
If they want to, that's fine.
brendan schaub
But does your wife like to go?
joe rogan
Sometimes.
I have her come out every six months or so.
brendan schaub
Just to see.
joe rogan
Just to see.
Tell me, is there anything new?
What's different?
brendan schaub
Because she's known you for so long, she would know.
joe rogan
It's like...
Yeah, here's the thing.
If someone sees you every weekend, and I have friends that take their girlfriends on the road with them, and they get so bored with their acts.
Because they're watching a guy perform every night.
Two nights...
Two in a row, two shows in a night.
Your act is nonsense to them.
brendan schaub
You're one of my favorite people on planet Earth.
I've seen your set when you're ready for this a bunch of times.
And when I was leaving, someone was like, you know what, Joe?
I'm like, dude, I've seen it, man.
It's not disrespectful.
He understands.
I've seen it, though.
joe rogan
I don't even watch, like...
brendan schaub
I've seen it ten times.
joe rogan
I don't even watch my favorites.
Like, even Joey, I'll sometimes leave the room if he's on stage.
Yeah, you don't...
You also don't want to get bored with someone's act.
You can't watch them over and over and over and over again.
But that's what happens with girlfriends.
Girlfriends that go on the road with guys, they're watching two sets a night.
brendan schaub
What a terrible idea.
unidentified
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, blah!
joe rogan
And then they just think you suck.
unidentified
Ha!
joe rogan
Because you don't make them laugh anymore.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're just over it.
They're like, really?
This is what you do?
You tell the same story every night?
joe rogan
Shut up, bitch.
You pretend it's a new story.
And then if you have a new opening act, like, he's really funny.
Like, he's funny.
What about me?
brendan schaub
He's funny.
joe rogan
Oh, I've seen you too many times.
Like, oh, no.
brendan schaub
Yeah, my brother used to think I was great.
He's on the road to me every time.
And the other night I go, here we go again.
He goes, I feel like I could do your act now.
I'm like, motherfucker.
He's probably good.
He probably knows it by heart.
joe rogan
We used to do that in Boston.
We had a thing called Joe Biden Night at Stitches.
Joe Biden, who was the former vice president, people don't remember this, but in 1988, when he was running for president, he got busted retelling some of Kennedy's old speeches.
brendan schaub
Come on, man.
This is in 88. Yeah.
joe rogan
It was a big scandal.
And that kind of took him out of the running for being president for a long time.
Although they're talking about it again for 2020. So we would do Joe Biden night at the Comedy Store.
That's hilarious.
I would do your act.
brendan schaub
That's awesome.
That's hilarious.
People probably loved it.
joe rogan
Oh, they loved it.
It was, you know, like an off night.
It was like a Monday.
brendan schaub
Like you doing Joey Diaz?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
It'd be fucking great.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that would be good because I can do an impression of Joey.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Like a lot of it was just people just doing the material.
brendan schaub
Chris D'Elia does Callan?
Fucking great.
joe rogan
Yeah, comedy is a weird thing.
That's one of the things about this special.
I got too close to it.
When you're editing things and you're practicing it and you're doing it over and over again, I know it's working.
I know it's going to work.
It's polished.
I practiced it.
I wrote it out.
I redid it.
I fucking edited it and changed it and twisted it.
I know how to do it, but I also don't want to hear it.
No.
I've heard it too many times.
So you get too close to it.
So then when people are going to see it for the very first time, you're like, I don't know.
I don't know.
I hope they like it.
I'm too close to it.
brendan schaub
But you still get nervous even after all these years.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
If you care, you get nervous.
brendan schaub
And isn't it?
You're so close to this body of work.
Like you said, this is your baby.
You know what I'm saying?
If someone's like, dude, that sucked.
You're like, motherfucker.
joe rogan
There's definitely people that are going to think it sucks.
That's always going to happen.
But my thing is the majority of my fans who like my comedy, I want them to like it.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
And so for me, it's like I was confident.
I knew I did everything I could do.
I know I'm a good comic, and I know I've done everything I could do to make this my best one.
So I knew I was confident.
I knew it was a good special.
And I thought it was my best special.
I'm very confident that it's my best special.
But still, I'm too close to it.
So I don't know.
Anyway, Conor McGregor vs.
unidentified
Khabib.
brendan schaub
Well, that's a good transition.
joe rogan
This weekend, boy.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you this, dude.
I'll tell you this.
I'm not being a hater.
I'm not being some sort of Debbie Downer.
I don't think it breaks two million pay-per-view buys.
joe rogan
You might be right.
brendan schaub
I'm not seeing it, man.
Like, when Conor fought Floyd or when Conor, Nate Diaz, too, I couldn't go anywhere.
Without hearing about it.
Car dealer, everyone went, dude, Conor Floyd, who you got, man?
Everybody and their mom.
Now, very rare.
Maybe on one of my shows someone will bring it up, but...
joe rogan
There's something that Conor didn't want to do for this fight, and that's massive promotion.
brendan schaub
So does that mean it's not as big?
Like, who's that falling?
Is that Conor or the UFC? It's both.
joe rogan
He doesn't want to do it.
Well, the UFC has a model, right?
And it worked in the Jose Aldo fight.
That model is you just promote the holy fuck out of a fight.
You travel the world.
You promote the shit out of it.
You scream at each other at press conferences.
You do all that stuff for months and months and months, and those things sell like crazy.
brendan schaub
If it's Conor McGregor.
joe rogan
If it's Conor McGregor.
Who have they ever done it with besides Conor McGregor like that?
brendan schaub
No one really sells like that.
A little bit with Ronda, I guess, but she didn't have the same kind of chops as Conor.
So Conor's the only one, but I don't know.
Maybe it's because he had a layoff, maybe it's after the Floyd thing.
I think it does well.
I don't think it breaks Conor versus Nate, too.
I don't think it breaks $1.6 million.
joe rogan
What I think happened was Conor made a hundred fucking million dollars, and he was like, yeah, I'm just going to train.
brendan schaub
You know, I think there's that, and the asshole goes, that took so much energy to do all that, and everyone knows me as that guy.
I have the toughest fight in my life coming up.
I'm taking every precaution necessary not to overtrain, not to use all my energy.
This, I'm in the fight of my life, and I'm going to train like it.
I'm shutting down everything.
You can...
Post the fucking me throwing the dolly through the window 1,000 times.
I'll do the press conference on Thursday.
Other than that, man, I have got to get ready for the fight of my life.
That's the way I'm looking at it.
joe rogan
I think you're right, and I think this is the fight of his life.
I think stylistically, it's a nightmare matchup.
brendan schaub
I think it's a nightmare matchup for both of them.
I think anyone who goes, oh, Conor, he can't wrestle, he can't do this, he's just going to get taken down and pounded out.
You're so off, it's not even funny.
You don't know the game, man.
joe rogan
He absolutely is capable of stuffing a takedown or two in the early going.
That's what's up.
Because in the early going, he's got that stinger of a left hand.
brendan schaub
His movement.
joe rogan
His footwork.
His movement, his footwork, and Khabib is going to know that coming in.
He's going to be a little hesitant.
He's not going to walk towards him like Edson Barboza did.
Or he did in the Edson Barboza fight.
brendan schaub
He can't.
joe rogan
Because Barboza is mostly kicks.
Barboza throws a lot of kicks, a lot of tie style kicks, and Khabib just put a tremendous amount of pressure on him and then got a hold of him.
But Conor's going to crack him with hands, and his footwork is way better.
He's just way better at moving in and moving out.
brendan schaub
I think when people go, it's either Conor starches him and gets the KO, or Khabib just takes him down for five rounds and pounds him out.
I think it's a classic fight.
I think it's back and forth.
I think it's a fucking dogfight.
I think it's a fight of our lives, man.
I really do.
joe rogan
I think you're probably right.
brendan schaub
I think you're getting a fucking great fight from two guys where there's more on the line than just win or lose.
I think with Khabib and what he represents and talking to his team, his team captain, Josh Thompson, he goes, Khabib's going to retire after this.
Really?
He wants to beat Conor and retire.
Really?
He wants to retire like the Floyd Mayweather of MMA, 27-0, beat the UFC's poster boy and he walks off in the sunset.
Unless they get him a super fight with GSP or something, he's done.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Wow.
That's shocking.
He's young.
brendan schaub
Very shocking.
But think how long he's been doing this.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Since he's four, he's been fucking up grizzly bears.
So he's like, all right, I'm over this, man.
And not to mention, he lives with his family, man.
He still lives with his mom and dad, his wife, and his two kids, same house.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
That's what kind of monster you're dealing with.
And then for Conor, I think it's a legacy fight where...
You know, he's coming off the Floyd Mayweather kind of train there where, you know, it was a success either way you look at it.
He made a hundred million dollars and he competed against the best of all time and lasted more rounds than anyone thought and trained for a complete boxing match.
So his striking is going to be better going in this fight.
But for him, it's not about the money.
You see him, the one interview he's done on Mac Life, you can see it's like it's a vintage Conner.
We go, oh shit, we got one here, man.
This isn't, you know, the Floyd Mayweather is more of a show.
Like, you know, we didn't think he was going to win that.
This one, you look at it, oh shit, that's vintage Conor.
This motherfucker's coming to fight.
And he might get taken down.
Yes, I guarantee you he gets taken down.
That motherfucker's going to get back up.
He's going to get up.
He's going to keep getting up.
And Khabib's going to keep coming.
And we've got a dogfight, man.
I think both guys are going to be fucked up after this fight.
It's going to be a classic.
joe rogan
It could be.
brendan schaub
Fast forward, fucking...
Khabib starts in seven seconds.
People are just going to be playing this on a loop.
unidentified
Just...
brendan schaub
Play this on a loop.
joe rogan
Look, Khabib's got to get through the fire, you know?
He's got to get through the fire in the early going.
He's got to close that distance and he's got to do it with precision without letting his nerves affect him, right?
I mean, he's got all the shit talking Conor's done to him.
He's seen him rattle at the press conference.
brendan schaub
He's rattled.
When he started talking about his dad, he's rattled.
And I think we've also never seen Khabib fight with high stakes.
Like when he fought Al Iaquinta, that wasn't high stakes.
Al's an amazing fighter, but that's not the same as fighting Conor McGregor.
When he's fighting Edson Barboza, that's not high stakes.
When you're fighting Conor McGregor, Conor takes all the chips on that poker table, puts it all in the middle, goes, I'm all in.
You have to be all in.
I do well under these circumstances.
How do you respond?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So we've never seen Khabib.
And everyone goes, oh, his cardio is great.
It is great.
But when the fucking Irish nation is rocking that fucking arena and there's all this pressure, his heart rate's going to go up.
And he's going to be like, God, I fucking hate this guy.
Khabib's never fought a guy who he hates.
He hates Conor.
Is he going to be overzealous and open himself up?
There has to be something there.
We don't know.
joe rogan
Aldo was an assassin until that fight.
Completely.
brendan schaub
One of the best of all time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Still is.
But that fight exposed how good Conor's psychological game is.
Because months and months of being on tour with Conor, those press conferences, Conor stealing his belt and screaming at him and getting in his face and then starches him with one punch.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
But what else is interesting is, remember, Conor's an amazing counterpuncher.
Well, to be an amazing counterpuncher, you need a guy to punch at you.
Khabib's not going to punch at him.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Unless it becomes an ego thing like you did with Al or Edson Barboza where you just walk him down, there's no respect.
He might throw some punches, so it's going to be interesting for Conor to find those angles when a guy's not playing the game.
joe rogan
Also, Khabib has had a history of struggling to make weight.
He cannot struggle to make weight for this fight.
He's got to be on point.
brendan schaub
He came into that press conference at 174. They said this motherfucker started camp at 180-something.
He's never been more serious for a fight.
joe rogan
Which, for people listening, if you're saying, like, well, Buddy fights at 155, he used to play 200. 200, yeah.
Yeah, and then get down to 155. And it was not good.
I mean, the Michael Johnson fight, he struggled.
He had, like, some real shutdown issues.
And then the Tony Ferguson fight, they pulled him out of the fight.
He can't have any of that nonsense this weekend.
unidentified
Oh.
brendan schaub
No, no.
joe rogan
I don't think we will.
brendan schaub
The nonsense, the only thing where Jamie Toney's going to the fight, I would never go to this fight.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
I would not go to this fight for this reason.
I'm a complete pussy.
I think something's going to happen in the crowd between the Russians and the Irish.
Why do you think that?
Just the animosity between the two.
They hate each other so bad.
If this fight happens for Conor, you're going to have upset Russians.
If it happens for Khabib, you're going to have upset fucking Irish.
I think it's gotten bigger than just a UFC fight.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
I do, man.
It's so hostile.
joe rogan
You think you wouldn't go to this fight because the potential, the violence breaks out?
brendan schaub
Correct.
I also don't like going to UFC fights.
I also don't like going to UFC fights.
joe rogan
Why don't you like it?
Because you used to fight?
brendan schaub
It's just stressful for me.
Yeah, just super stressful for me.
joe rogan
Do you feel like you're going to fight again when you're there?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I get the nerves and I'm just like, oh god.
I go complete opposite of that now.
I try to get more relaxed when I'm doing stand-up stuff.
I don't want to be in that scared mode anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's interesting.
brendan schaub
My heart rate, I'm just sweating the whole time.
I'm just like around, like sweating.
I look like shit.
unidentified
Ah!
brendan schaub
Ah!
joe rogan
Pull up that card.
Let me see the rest of the card.
brendan schaub
Dude, if you're Tony Ferguson, it's like, oh yeah, and Tony's fighting.
joe rogan
Right.
I know.
And he's fighting Pettis.
brendan schaub
It's not an easy fight for a comeback.
Fight for Tony.
joe rogan
I mean, I'm just amazed that he's able to fight again so quickly after knee surgery.
brendan schaub
You know what's interesting to me is I asked Josh Thompson, who knows Khabib, and obviously you can talk to DC about it, but I go, dude, Tony's back.
Like, if Khabib were to win, he'd fight Tony, right?
And he goes, no interest.
That fight does nothing to him mentally.
He just doesn't care about it.
I'm like...
joe rogan
Khabib just doesn't care.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's like not with Tony.
joe rogan
So he really just wants to fight Conor and then get out.
brendan schaub
Get out.
Or fight GSP. From Josh Thompson's mouth, from Khabib, he wants to beat the UFC's poster boy, Dana's poster boy, and walk the fuck out.
Unless they give him a super fight.
joe rogan
Who the fuck has ever been 26-0 as a champion?
I think that's the only one.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but 26-0 for sure.
He's fucking fighting Dagestanis.
joe rogan
Who else has been an undefeated champion?
brendan schaub
Undefeated champion?
John Jones.
joe rogan
But John Jones, did he fight Matt Hamill before he won the title?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he fought Matt Hamill on the Ultimate Fighter.
Roy Nelson, Brendan Shaw.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
It wasn't the Ultimate Fighter.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was the Ultimate Fighter finale.
Because I fought Roy Nelson, John Jones fought Matt Hamill.
joe rogan
Not on the Ultimate Fighter.
brendan schaub
No, you know when they do the finale.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a bullshit loss though.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
You got a loss from whooping a dude's ass so bad.
You know what?
As far as undefeated champions...
joe rogan
Who?
I don't think there's one.
brendan schaub
Hennenborough.
joe rogan
Oh, he won, but he lost his first fight.
Hennenborough lost his first ever UFC fight.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
He had like 30 wins in a row or some shit, but had a weird loss back in Brazil.
joe rogan
Yeah, he lost his first MMA fight, rather.
brendan schaub
Ronda!
Yeah, Ronda.
Ronda's undefeated.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ronda's only two losses were the two title fights between Holly and Amanda.
Let's see.
What do you got there, Jamie?
What are you pulling up?
jamie vernon
A list of undefeated MMA champions.
brendan schaub
Ben Askren hanging around.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ben Askren's for sure one of them.
Ben Askren to me, and I've had him on the podcast, I've said this a hundred times.
brendan schaub
I know, I love the guy.
joe rogan
He's my, oh, Brian Ortega.
But Brian Ortega isn't really a champion.
brendan schaub
Well, these aren't champions, are they?
These just undefeated MMA fighters.
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, sorry, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
These aren't champions.
Ben's the one guy who I'd love to see come out of retirement and fight Khabib.
joe rogan
He's the one guy that's my biggest disappointment that that guy never fought in the UFC. It's a fucking shame.
But the thing is, like, Khabib wouldn't fight.
Nobody knows who he is outside of the hardcore guys like you or myself.
brendan schaub
Why would you fight?
joe rogan
And maybe lose.
Maybe get out-wrestled.
brendan schaub
Here's the only, if you're gonna say something about Khabib, he's 27-0.
When you look at the body of work from Conor compared to Khabib, it's not even close.
The wins that Conor has are remarkable.
You look at the Max Holloway, Chad Mendes, Jose Aldo.
What he did to Eddie Alvarez.
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
That was ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Ridiculous.
Nate Diaz win, Nate Diaz loss.
You just look at the caliber of opponents that he's faced from a very young age.
It's a nightmare.
You look at Khabib, he's 27-0.
His biggest win is probably Barboza.
Dos Anjos when he was a little weathered, but you know.
But Barboza is a perfect stylistic matchup for him.
We don't know which could be.
We know he's damn good, but how good?
joe rogan
He's had one weird moment in his entire career.
That's when Michael Johnson cracked him.
Wobbled him for a second, and then he took him down and smashed him.
brendan schaub
The Gleason...
joe rogan
Tebow?
brendan schaub
Tebow fight got a little dicey too.
joe rogan
Did it?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Boy, I don't remember that fight at all.
brendan schaub
But with Michael Johnson, it's funny to me because Michael Johnson landed that big overhand and people go, oh, Khabib has a weak chin.
I'm like, well, he's never been dropped.
He's never been as sound as that's ever.
joe rogan
Michael Johnson starched Dustin Poirier with one punch.
Don't forget about that.
Michael Johnson can fucking punch.
brendan schaub
He's explosive as shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he caught Khabib and Khabib got rocked for a second and then weathered the storm, took him down, smashed him.
It was a total dominant performance.
Yeah, if you look at his performance, like you look at his resume, Pat Healy was a tough fighter.
brendan schaub
Tough vet.
joe rogan
That showed.
Abel Trujillo, he smashed Abel Trujillo.
brendan schaub
Remember Abel, he took down more times than anyone inside that octagon.
21 times, I think.
And he was a college wrestler.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
And a strong guy, too.
Abel Strong as shit.
brendan schaub
And that's at least in T-Bow, what is that, 2012?
unidentified
That's the juicy T-Bow.
joe rogan
Yeah, the real big fight was the Barboza fight, and then Al Iaquinta was, I mean, as his last minute gets.
And he still went five whole rounds with Iaquinta, which was interesting for a lot of people.
Like, I talked to Eddie Alvarez after that fight, and he was, like, very interesting.
Very interesting.
Yeah, I was like, you saw a lot of things in that fight, huh?
He was like, yeah.
He's like, you know, once the fight got into the later rounds and he's still standing up with guys, he'll go, oh, all right.
brendan schaub
It's so interesting to me because when you talk to anyone from AKA, obviously they're super pro Khabib, but they're like, dude, this isn't even a fight.
This is one of Khabib's easier fights.
He's definitely had way tougher matchups.
I'm like, you're crazy, man.
They're like, you should see Khabib go against Ed Ruth, who's an All-American Penn State wrestler.
He fucks him up.
He takes him down.
I'm like, what?
But that's that wrestling, that dance, that rhythm.
Conor's not on that rhythm.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
You're talking about a different animal.
joe rogan
You're talking about a guy who is one of the best fencers in the game, meaning can jump in with one shot and put you out.
And he can do it moving back, he can do it moving forward, he can time you, and he'll be very calm in there.
You will get the very best Conor McGregor.
brendan schaub
He's also no slouch on the ground.
People think he's just going to get taken down and get crucifixed right away.
You're out of your goddamn mind.
The guy trains with Dylan Dennis.
He's brought in these Dagestani wrestlers.
He's training with the lead of the lead.
You know what Khabib's going to do.
It's way easier to train for Khabib than it is Conor.
joe rogan
The dark horse fight on the card is Derek Lewis and Volkov.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
Alexander Volkov might be the best heavyweight on the planet.
brendan schaub
What's he won?
His last six-fight winning streak?
He's a guy who's flying under the radar.
joe rogan
He's giant, too.
brendan schaub
His last fight, he knocked out Verdum.
People forget.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't he like 6'8 or some shit?
brendan schaub
6'8, yeah.
6'8.
joe rogan
Giant, tall, long dude who did real well in Bellator.
brendan schaub
World champion in Bellator.
joe rogan
And he has massive experience.
And you see him in that fight with Verdum.
He fucked Verdum up.
brendan schaub
I know, man.
He's a problem.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Verdum just released a statement saying that USADA asked him to snitch.
brendan schaub
Wow.
What's going on with the snitching stuff?
I don't know.
joe rogan
They offered him a more lenient sentence if he was willing to snitch.
And he goes, fuck you.
brendan schaub
I love Verdoom.
I love that too.
And then I guess John was like, cool.
joe rogan
I don't know John.
brendan schaub
I don't either.
But that's what they're saying.
I don't either.
joe rogan
I didn't hear that John snitched.
Did you hear John snitched?
brendan schaub
That's what the statement says.
joe rogan
But John's manager says that he didn't.
What statement from who?
brendan schaub
The statement from...
Come on bro.
His manager.
joe rogan
Did you just give him a skeptical hippo face?
brendan schaub
Dude, but no, I'm not saying John did.
Let's be very clear.
All I'm saying is he came out with that statement and then Malky goes, he didn't snitch.
joe rogan
Everybody's like, wait, what?
brendan schaub
Nowitzki was like, no, you said you're going to give us some info to help us out down the road with other people.
So, you know, I don't...
What?
Yeah, USADA had to release an official statement and went, hold on.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
brendan schaub
Because Maliki came out and was like, no, we never agreed to say we're going to snitch.
And then USADA was like, well, no, remember?
Remember the contract you signed?
Here's this section of the contract.
joe rogan
They said they would help them out in the future with other people.
brendan schaub
I mean, bring it up, Jamie.
joe rogan
John Jones, world champion, walking around wearing a wire.
Hey, guys.
My creatine just ain't working.
brendan schaub
Anyone else just exhausted today?
joe rogan
You guys are just so ripped.
unidentified
You got anything?
brendan schaub
What's your secret?
You got anything, bro?
Why aren't you in a full hoodie and sweatsuit in the sauna?
joe rogan
I'm going to go out on a limb here.
I don't think that John cheated.
brendan schaub
You don't think he cheated?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's very murky waters.
joe rogan
I might be wrong.
I don't think he cheated.
I think he took something that was tainted.
I think that's why they're only giving him a year off.
Look, I had said it on the podcast before.
brendan schaub
You don't have any skeptical hippo eyes about how it's shortened sentence, it's ready to go right around New York, right around the CSPN deal?
joe rogan
Malky says there was none, but I keep saying that and everybody keeps running with it.
Substantial assistance doesn't necessarily mean it has to be on somebody else.
It could have been on himself.
What?
brendan schaub
So go up to the part that USADA said.
That's what USADA released, that statement.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
USADA said there are two avenues, blah, blah, blah, anti-doping policy, allow for reduction of sanctions.
One, an individual can get a sanction reduction if he or she provides information that results in USADA or another anti-doping agency bringing forward an anti-doping policy violation against other athletes or support personnel.
And or two, a reduction can be given if the information results in a criminal or disciplinary body bringing forward a criminal offense against individuals...
Importantly, if the athlete or support personnel fails to continue to cooperate and provide credible substantial assistance, USADA will reinstate the original sanction.
That's snitching.
brendan schaub
Where I come from, but I don't know.
Now, I don't think John snitched on anyone to get a shorter sentence.
We'll find out if Jackson guys are popping left and right all of a sudden, but I don't think John did that.
I think that's just in there, maybe?
Maybe.
joe rogan
Or if...
brendan schaub
I don't know.
We do not know, and I like to give John Jones the benefit of the doubt.
And I will say this.
If I'm a UFC fighter...
I am hiring Malky to be my goddamn manager.
Because what he's done with John, what he did with frickin' all his guys, what he did with your boy, your old Romero, he goes to bat for them.
No one else is fucking with a golden snitch like Malky does.
And everyone else kind of just goes, ah, fuck, we got busted, man.
Not Malky, man.
That dude's going to the end of the earth to fight for your freedom.
joe rogan
I don't know him that well.
brendan schaub
I don't know him as a person.
Managers are managers.
But I'm saying, if I'm the UFC, because they can't negotiate your sponsorship, it's Reebok.
So what can they really do?
Your contract, and now you've got to deal with Usado, who's a huge deal.
Malky is this fucking dog right now that you want in your back pocket.
joe rogan
And it's interesting that USADA has just released a statement that they're changing their policy.
So say if you piss hot, they don't...
And what's really interesting is Sean O'Malley, right afterwards, said, yo, I pissed hot.
He said, they don't want to announce that people pissed hot?
He goes, I pissed hot.
And he goes, let me tell you something.
They're going to check my supplements, and we think we've got it nailed.
We think we know what it is.
But in the meantime, this is why I was removed from this fight this weekend.
brendan schaub
So they're not going to announce it.
They're just going to pull you from the card.
joe rogan
They're just going to pull you from the card.
brendan schaub
That ain't right.
joe rogan
And they don't announce it.
brendan schaub
That ain't right.
joe rogan
And then they go through the entire steps.
And then if you're exonerated, you were never accused in the first place.
brendan schaub
See, the problem is, whether Sean O'Malley, whoever you are, Travis Brown, whoever, name any fighter you want.
If you've ever been, if it's even been hinted, if you've ever had an issue...
And you get that label.
People just go, he's on steroids.
They don't do a big announcement going, sorry, we didn't find anything.
My bad.
Hey, Josh Barnett, sorry you've been out for 22 months.
My bad.
What the fuck, man?
Give me some sort of compensation.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
Also, so it took you how long to figure this out?
I can't work during that time period.
And because of you, I can't work.
joe rogan
And you made a mistake.
brendan schaub
And you made the mistake.
How are we going to make this right?
unidentified
Oh, my bad.
brendan schaub
You can go fight now.
That's insane.
joe rogan
Especially for Josh.
He's like 37. He's not young.
Or how about for- I think he's actually older than 37. Josh might be 40. Yeah, he's long in the tooth.
brendan schaub
He's been doing it for a hot minute.
Yeah, I mean he was- But think if you're Jon Jones though, dude.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Let's say you're right and he didn't do anything.
Nothing on purpose and it was some bullshit supplement and he's been dragged through the mud rightfully so after hitting a woman pregnant and all that.
joe rogan
But with this- That's a different thing though.
brendan schaub
That's a different thing.
With this, you're like, what the fuck, man?
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
I could have fought Brock Lesnar, I could have been living DC's life, but because of this, I've been out.
My name's been tarnished forever.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there was something in his urine.
There was a substance, and that substance is a performance-enhancing substance.
The real question is, did it come, like, there's a lot of people that got it from supplements.
This is happening all throughout sports, but then there's people that say no.
They're saying that it happened from supplements, but really that's just an excuse for them getting popped.
brendan schaub
That's what most people think.
The majority side with that.
joe rogan
The problem in John's situation is that he tested negative, and then he tested positive, and then he tested negative in a very short period of time, which means the amount that was in his system is a trace amount.
Which is not anything that you could take that would impart performance-enhancing benefits.
brendan schaub
No, they said having a drop of steroids in a huge vat of water.
It's not going to benefit them.
Now, some people, and not me, man.
I'm with you.
Maybe he did take something that he wasn't supposed to, but I don't think it helped his performance.
But some people say, well, he was microdosing, so he didn't get it out of his system in time.
That's why it's such a small trace amount.
But at the time, if they would have tested him, it would have been a higher dose.
joe rogan
Potency.
Maybe.
I don't think you can microdose this shit, though.
brendan schaub
I have no idea, Joe.
I don't know.
But listen, they said he didn't do it.
Here's the shitty thing, though.
Now DC's upset because they're like, KDC, we're going to strip you of one of your belts and John's going to fight for it.
joe rogan
But they haven't worked that out yet.
Maybe that's why the Gustafson-John Jones situation still hasn't been resolved yet.
brendan schaub
Ding, ding.
joe rogan
We're going to find out this weekend.
brendan schaub
You think?
joe rogan
Let me see out the card.
Yeah, I think this weekend they'll have to announce.
brendan schaub
They have to announce something.
joe rogan
It's a fucking month away, man.
I mean, what else do you do?
brendan schaub
You know, this is a great card.
Obviously, the main event's ridiculous, but that Mass Square Garden card's a better fight.
Better overall fight card.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I think it is, too.
This is, look, the big fights on this card are Nurmagomedov and Ferguson versus Pettis.
Nurmagomedov versus Conor is a fight for the ages.
I mean, that's absolutely one of the biggest fights in the history of the sport.
That's a giant fucking fight.
I mean, undefeated champion who just smashes and mauls people against one of the most enigmatic, charismatic fucking superstars of sports ever known.
And he's coming off of a long two-year absence from MMA where he fought the biggest boxer on the planet Earth, arguably the best boxer ever, and went 10 rounds with him.
And then he's going from that to fighting Nurmagomedov again for the title.
This is a giant fight.
brendan schaub
Huge fight.
Biggest fight in UFC history.
joe rogan
For sure.
Conor has changed the sport.
I mean, he really has.
brendan schaub
Oh, forever.
joe rogan
He's a different thing.
He's different than all the rest of the fighters.
He's just different.
He's so much more of a superstar.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's the biggest celebrity with the best talents they've ever had.
joe rogan
And not doing other things, too.
He's like, fuck your movies.
brendan schaub
Dude, I know firsthand he's had some crazy offers.
I'm like, he didn't take that?
And they're like, no, he didn't want to do it.
joe rogan
He says he wants to be loyal to the game.
He's like, there's plenty of time for that bullshit when I'm done fighting.
brendan schaub
Brilliant.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's the way to do it.
I mean, I think that is one of the things that did Ronda in.
That she was doing everything.
I mean, they had her doing movies.
They had her doing TV shows.
brendan schaub
I think Dad did her in, but also the skill set.
With Connor, it's a little different.
He has the skill set.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
Well, it's a more comprehensive camp, too.
I mean, there was Achilles' heel with Ronda was the camp.
I mean, look, if you're fighting someone like Amanda Nunes, you better be fully prepared.
brendan schaub
It's just different, too, you know, with the female division, you know, it's still growing.
So, you know, what she was in her time period was one of the best of all time, was the pioneer of the sport.
But, you know, there's so much in their infancy of starting with mixed martial arts.
They're adapting fast.
So Rhonda didn't get better when everyone else got a lot better.
joe rogan
So by the time they caught up to her, she didn't have the skill sets of the And I think there was, I think you're right, I think her game didn't advance, but I think there was also, I mean, just, look, she was so fucking good compared to them in the beginning.
She was just so good.
And then she was doing everything.
She was doing TV shows, movies, everything.
brendan schaub
Just the wrong people around, from her management to her agent, Brad, like the whole thing was a nightmare.
joe rogan
The whole thing's a nightmare.
So she's doing all that stuff.
It totaled all these distractions.
It worked out financially up to a point.
unidentified
But those two losses were big ones.
brendan schaub
Big ones.
I mean, it worked out in the sense where she's doing something else.
She looks happy.
She's in the WWE. She's a huge star over there.
She's actually really good at it.
She's killing it over there.
If you're in the WWE, apparently she's unnatural at it.
So she's the champ over there, not getting hit in the face.
No brain damage.
joe rogan
Well, you can still get brain damage.
brendan schaub
So I guess it kind of worked out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
When you're talking about Khabib and Conor, you're talking about the two most skillful lightweights of all time.
One guy is the best grappler we've ever seen in the UFC in Khabib.
The other is the best striker we've ever seen in the UFC. One of them, for sure.
I think he's the best.
As far as timing, as far as putting it all together, his movement, we've never seen anything like it.
I think what he does is completely different than what Wonderboy does.
We've seen a Wonderboy.
I can go watch.
I'm not taking any credit away from Wonderboy.
I'm saying from Wonderboy coming over with his kickboxing background into UFC, we've seen some of that.
Wonderboy's just the best actor.
joe rogan
See, the thing is, you've never seen Conor fight a guy like Wonderboy, whereas you've seen Wonderboy fight Darren Till.
You've seen Wonderboy fight someone who's that kind of a striker.
You've never seen Conor fight someone who is as dangerous standing up as he is.
brendan schaub
Jose Aldo.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was a different weight class, really.
brendan schaub
Not at the time, that's what he fought, though, Joe.
joe rogan
He's so much bigger than Aldo.
You're right, you're right.
brendan schaub
Remember, Jose Aldo is a fucking assassin.
What he did to Jose, for whatever reason, puts a shade over Jose.
Jose was so good, man.
He was a killer.
Striking was amazing.
Everyone's hanging off his Brazilian nuts.
And they get starched in 13 seconds.
We're like, he's alright.
joe rogan
But then the question is, did Conor catch him when he had already taken in a lot of damage?
After the second Chad Mendes fight, people started to question because the second fight, that was a war.
Great fight.
brendan schaub
My favorite fights of all time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, it's a good point.
brendan schaub
And then he fights a young Max Holloway.
They're both young.
That's not an easy fight.
Beats Max Holloway and has a torn fucking ACL or MCL in his knee.
Does that.
He fights Dustin Poirier.
You look at the guy, like Max Holloway, champion.
Dustin Poirier.
He's fighting fucking Nate Diaz now.
He could easily be the 155 champion.
Eddie Alvarez, champion.
Chad Mendes champion.
joe rogan
What do you know about, but you have a Chad Mendes super last-minute notice, no cardio, didn't have a camp at all.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, a win to win, brother.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.
But there's a caveat next to that one.
brendan schaub
For sure, but still.
joe rogan
What are you hearing about Max Holloway?
brendan schaub
They're fighting.
It just got announced.
joe rogan
Is he okay again?
brendan schaub
They're fighting in Toronto.
Yeah, he's good to go.
joe rogan
What happened?
brendan schaub
Bad weight cut from what I hear.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Bad weight cut?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
So how the fuck is he going to make that weight again?
brendan schaub
Probably go, what did we do last camp and redo everything?
joe rogan
He's so big, dude.
He's so big.
brendan schaub
Ortega's big too, though, man.
He figures it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he hasn't been doing it as long.
I think the thing about the weight cutting is, and this is like one of the things that I've been learning, talking to nutritionists and guys who diet and guys who get ready for bodybuilding competitions, like talking to Lane Norton last week, who's a scientist, like a legit PhD, as well as a guy who's competed in bodybuilding.
He's like, your body does not want to do that.
And your body tries to protect you from doing it.
And the more times you do it, the more and more difficult it is for you to do.
Weight cutting is the number one primary problem with MMA. 100%.
brendan schaub
You've got to listen to Conor McGregor's interview they did with MacLife.
He talked about weight cutting.
joe rogan
What did he say?
brendan schaub
I missed that part, but he talked about how the weight cutting was an issue and how dangerous it is and it's not good.
joe rogan
It's fucking terrible.
brendan schaub
He touches on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, Dustin Poirier talked about that too, and he said that he thinks everybody should go up one weight class.
But then, you know, what is happening with this 165-pound title?
Because they were going to have Nate Diaz fight Dustin.
Both those guys came out and said they're going to be fighting for the title.
brendan schaub
They came up with that game plan, which I love.
They tried forcing the UFC's hand.
joe rogan
Did they?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was their idea, which is brilliant.
joe rogan
Did you talk to them?
brendan schaub
That, come on.
I mean...
That's the plan.
And then the UFC's like, no, they're not.
Like, Dana goes, I don't know why they keep saying this stuff.
They signed a contract.
They're fine at 55. 65. No, they're not fine at 65. Really?
No.
They're not fine at 65. They made that up.
Nate Diaz and Dustin Poirier thought it'd be great to fight at 65 for a title.
Really?
That's not the UFC's idea.
So they just made that up?
So the UFC had to repost, like, no, it's 55. So it's like Dustin and Nate, hey, what's up?
joe rogan
What's up, dude?
brendan schaub
Made a bet for a title.
joe rogan
Let's do this, man.
Let's say we're going to fight at 55. All right, fuck it.
You know I'm going to fuck you up.
I'll fuck you up.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I thought it was brilliant.
And they tried forcing the UFC's hand, and then Dana had to come out and be like, no.
So people, and then when they told him it's not happening, you know, there's no belt.
There's no 65-pound belt.
Nate was like, oh, fuck it, I'm out.
joe rogan
What is this?
brendan schaub
This is Nate saying, I'm happy to announce I'm bringing a new weight division.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what is that 165 pound belt super fighter division?
What does that mean?
brendan schaub
It's just them trolling the UFC, which is hilarious.
And then Dustin goes, it's been a long journey, but here we are.
New York City, first ever 165 out of town title, UFC 165. I like how he hashtag Thug Jitsu.
joe rogan
Shout out to Eve Edwards.
brendan schaub
It's hilarious.
But then you look at it, and Dana White...
joe rogan
There's absolutely no truth to it.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
It just doesn't make any sense.
But here's the thing.
If there was truth to it, maybe you could sell that title better, that card better, if that's the title file.
That's exactly what you should do!
brendan schaub
They fucking teed it up for you!
What are you waiting for?
joe rogan
But have that as well as the main event.
If you get another main event.
brendan schaub
Why not go, alright, fuck my ego.
Let's do it.
Nate, Dustin, 165, world title, new division.
Everyone's all crunk for it.
If Jon Jones or whoever we're trying to get else, it works, great.
That's going to hype this thing every more.
But a month out, do that!
I would love...
Dustin Poirier and Nate Diaz can headline this fucking Mass Square Garden card.
It's insane not to announce someone.
joe rogan
But I think they want something bigger.
I think they want Jon Jones.
brendan schaub
But...
But at 165 title, why not just the appetizer?
That's a deep, heavy appetizer to sell tickets.
joe rogan
Here's the craziest of crazy questions.
Please.
Here's the craziest of crazy questions.
DC is supposed to be fighting Brock motherfucking Lesnar for the heavyweight title.
brendan schaub
Next year.
joe rogan
But that's next year.
Jon Jones versus DC for the heavyweight title in Madison Square Garden.
brendan schaub
It's not happening, but...
joe rogan
Why not?
brendan schaub
Because DC said he can't.
They want him to fight.
joe rogan
Can't what?
Why can't he?
brendan schaub
Because he wants to fight at light heavyweight.
joe rogan
Why?
brendan schaub
John and I think Dana want him to fight at heavyweight, but he wants to do it at light heavyweight.
He doesn't want to do it at heavyweight.
joe rogan
He doesn't want to fight John at heavyweight.
brendan schaub
Light heavyweight.
That's what he's been saying.
joe rogan
Listen, somebody needs to pull him aside, give him a fat bucket of Popeye's fried chicken, because that's his favorite.
brendan schaub
By fat buck, you mean fat bucket of cash.
joe rogan
That's what I was going to say next.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
I was going to say a briefcase.
The slider.
brendan schaub
Back up the brink trucks.
joe rogan
Leather briefcases that have those click-click things on it.
You lift it up.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
If I'm D.C., I'm not doing that.
I'm going, hold up.
I'm going to fight Brock in January or February.
I'm going to get paid.
I'm going to beat the shit out of Brock, right?
That's a big payday for me.
joe rogan
That's a big payday.
brendan schaub
And then have John fight Kane.
Have John fight Stipe at heavyweight.
Let's see how he looks.
If he looks human, I'll fight that fool.
But if he looks like Uber Eam at heavyweight, I'll see you on the other side.
And I'm fucking retiring.
joe rogan
That is a fight, right?
Stipe versus John Jones at heavyweight in Madison Square Garden.
That would be a giant fight.
brendan schaub
Huge fight.
joe rogan
That's a giant headliner.
That's a headline.
Fuck!
brendan schaub
What?
That gets my dick hard now.
Here's one for you, though.
See, Conor vs.
Khabib could be the same biggest fight of all time in UFC history.
Pay-per-views, I don't think so.
But let's say DC would have beat Brock.
John beat Stipe.
John DC the trilogy at heavyweight for the world title.
You don't think that's bigger than this fight this weekend?
To me, it's bigger.
joe rogan
No, it's not bigger, because Conor McGregor's a bigger...
What is this?
We might see Daniel Cormier-John Jones trilogy at heavyweight.
Aha!
See what I'm saying?
See what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
They're trying to force my boy DC into some shit he doesn't want to do, bro.
Stay strong, DC. No, no, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Take the fight.
unidentified
No.
Take the fight.
brendan schaub
No, fight Brock.
joe rogan
Listen, John's been off a long time.
Do you remember when he came back against Owen St. Preux?
Wasn't the best fight.
brendan schaub
That's true.
joe rogan
This might be the time.
brendan schaub
What a great story for DC if he were to beat John and then ride off in the sunset.
joe rogan
Imagine that.
And then rides off in the sunset?
brendan schaub
Not to play devil's advocate, what if he gets head kicked again at heavyweight, loses both belts, and everyone's like, well, there you go.
joe rogan
Well, look, John is, if not the best ever, he's one of the best ever.
brendan schaub
I think he's the best ever.
joe rogan
With Mighty Mouse having lost, it's a real good argument.
I think in terms of the overall ability to get things done, you've got to look at what he's done.
He's never lost.
He only lost to Matt Hamill, and that was a bullshit loss.
brendan schaub
Look at the guys he's fought, too.
joe rogan
Fought murders.
brendan schaub
And the way he beat them, too.
joe rogan
Killers.
Remember when he choked Liotta out and just dropped him?
brendan schaub
Vicious.
joe rogan
Just fell in a clump.
brendan schaub
And then what he did to fucking Vitor Belfort, he submitted Vitor, was like, you're a black belt, very cool.
joe rogan
After he got his arm broken, Conor McGregor not keen on facing GSP next, but interested in Anderson Silva.
brendan schaub
Get that shit out of my face, Conor.
joe rogan
What?
Why would he not be interested in facing GSP, but he's interested in facing Anderson?
Anderson is a 185 pounder.
We'll see what happens next, but I don't think GSP is next.
He doesn't have anything for me personally.
I'm not going to shut the door on that down the line.
You know what would be another great one?
Anderson Silva.
I think he thinks Anderson is slowed way down.
George is not slowed down yet.
brendan schaub
George at 55 vs Conor is an amazing fight.
joe rogan
Well, at 70, it's an amazing fight too.
brendan schaub
They're not fighting at 70. No?
Nope.
joe rogan
No way?
brendan schaub
Nope.
Not happening.
joe rogan
What makes you say that?
What makes you say that?
brendan schaub
You've seen George?
He looks pretty svelte.
joe rogan
Well, I saw one picture of him when he was in the sauna when people say he's making a test cut to 55. Ask your boy for us.
I can ask George.
brendan schaub
Ask George.
joe rogan
Call him up right now.
brendan schaub
Call him up.
joe rogan
Here's my phone.
brendan schaub
You think he's going to give us a real answer on air?
joe rogan
I've never called anybody.
brendan schaub
Me neither.
Sometimes Brian does this, it's a nightmare.
joe rogan
It's probably rude, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're like, what?
You're on air.
Hey, it's Rogan and Chubb.
Is there any way you're going to fight?
And they're like, dude, come on.
joe rogan
See, the problem with that is he's leaning in, and that image of him at 170 is in the middle of a fight, so he's all pumped up with muscle.
His muscles are inflated.
You know, he might actually be trying to make 55. He does look very slim there.
brendan schaub
This is what I've heard through the grapevine.
GSP wants to fight, and the fight he wants is at 55, but it's only if Conor wins.
Really?
He doesn't think beating Khabib would be like a legacy fight for him.
joe rogan
Well, I'll tell you what, in terms of pay-per-view, that would be a giant fight.
brendan schaub
Connor GSP? Yes.
joe rogan
Especially after GSP. Big boy.
Beat Bisping, got 800,000 pay-per-view buys after two, how many years out of the game?
Four?
unidentified
Four.
joe rogan
Four years out of the game?
brendan schaub
Four-year layoff.
joe rogan
Four-year layoff, comes back, and I'll tell you what, man, when he did my podcast, he's super lucid.
He's there, 100%.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
All that rest did him good.
brendan schaub
Brilliant guy.
joe rogan
That rest did him good.
brendan schaub
Smart, smart guy.
That's a fight.
joe rogan
That would be a giant fight.
That's a giant fight.
And he'd probably be vulnerable at 55. Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's a good fight for Conor.
joe rogan
Good fight for George, too.
Do you think he'd be faster?
I mean, would he necessarily be faster at 55?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
I think he'd be so diminished.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I think he'd be solid.
Obviously, his technique's still there, but I think at 70, that's George all day.
85, not so much.
That boy looked...
Thick.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he said he had a real hard time keeping that weight on.
It fucked up his intestines.
brendan schaub
Yeah, whatever it was.
joe rogan
Fucked up his digestive system.
brendan schaub
Boy, it was thick.
joe rogan
He said he was eating all day, trying to keep the mass on.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That was a rough one.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got some sort of a stomach issue now.
brendan schaub
Colitis?
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he said he got it from just eating like a fucking pig while he was training.
He was always almost throwing up.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, not good.
What else is on this card this weekend?
brendan schaub
Other than that, man.
joe rogan
What do we got?
Michelle Waterson, Felice Herrick.
unidentified
That's a good fight.
brendan schaub
That's a fun fight.
Yeah, Little Pettis fighting Juicy A. Formiga.
joe rogan
Formiga.
brendan schaub
In the boxing world, you got Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury fight, man.
I'm doing the press conference.
Wednesday.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
That's an interesting fight.
Did you hear what Teddy Atlas said about Deontay Wilder?
brendan schaub
Just how hard he can hit?
joe rogan
He called him Thor.
He's got that hammer.
He's like Thor.
brendan schaub
How great is Teddy Atlas?
joe rogan
He's great!
That was a fun interview.
brendan schaub
I didn't get to the very end, but he mentioned something of it where he was saying how he thinks it's an issue.
And I never really thought about it until you brought it up.
I've never thought about it.
When boxing became a little corrupt and got a little weird for him is when the fighters started to have their own promotions in with the boxing world, right?
Like the promoters and the fighters working together.
And now we're starting to see this now with the UFC. We're going down the same road with McGregor promotions in the UFC. Now they're in cahoots, right?
joe rogan
But he's also talking about how the promoters will take out the judges to dinner, you know, and it's like that's a total conflict of interest.
Even if you're not paying them, they're eating at the nicest places, drinking the nicest wine.
brendan schaub
That's so sketchy, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So sketchy.
joe rogan
It's legal in some sort of strange loophole-y way.
brendan schaub
It's very strange.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What else is coming up down in the future?
What else is going on?
Like, what's another big fight?
brendan schaub
The December card, you got Cyborg Nunez happening.
joe rogan
Now the December card in Toronto?
brendan schaub
No, the December card in Toronto is Brian Ortega Holloway.
joe rogan
Right.
So there's another December card?
brendan schaub
The New Year's card, you know when they do it right before New Year's?
joe rogan
Oh, so there's two pay-per-views?
Pretty sure.
Because the place that Valentina Shevchenko versus Sajara Eubanks, what?
jamie vernon
They just bumped it up.
joe rogan
For the vacant flyweight title, we're headlined UFC 230. I thought, Ioana.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is this just coming out today?
jamie vernon
I was about to show you a tweet that said that they were talking about moving it up and it was in flux and then I went to look for it.
brendan schaub
Oh wait, that's going to headline Mass Square Garden?
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
I've lost all energy in my body.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, because that gets my dick harder than Dustin Poirier vs Nate Diaz for a 165 pound title.
joe rogan
No offense, but I don't even know who Sajara Eubanks is.
And I'm the commentator for the UFC. I've never heard of her.
brendan schaub
And I'm not being a dick either.
I'm just saying as far as headline Mass Square Garden, you got some nerve whoever put this together.
joe rogan
Let's see a video on this young lady.
brendan schaub
I'm sure she's an absolute monster.
joe rogan
And good for her.
I'm sure she is.
brendan schaub
Congrats.
joe rogan
She looks scary.
brendan schaub
How many fights does she have?
unidentified
She's one in the UFC. She's one fight.
joe rogan
One fight in the UFC. She's four and two.
Four and two.
Okay.
And what happened with Ioana?
brendan schaub
She must have got injured or some shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know.
The previous tweet was this.
joe rogan
Well, this is Brett Okamoto.
He's a reliable source.
brendan schaub
Remember, ESPN's in cahoots with the UFC now.
joe rogan
Supposed to face Ioana, but that may change too if the switch happens.
Okay, per sources, they've discussed moving Valentina Shevchenko.
Is this the previous tweet?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this was the previous one.
joe rogan
And then he made another one saying that it's locked in.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
unidentified
Fucking Britney Spears.
joe rogan
Who's the dude?
What's that guy's name?
Christopher Castano.
brendan schaub
Chris underscore Castano.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
He put that Britney Spears...
What?
That is fucking hilarious.
brendan schaub
These poor girls, it sucks for them, but the magnitude of Matt's Square Garden, you're thinking it's going to be...
I was thinking Jones, fucking Cain Velasquez, Stipe Jones, DC Les...
Something that would just blow my hair back.
They're like, hold up.
joe rogan
Valentina against a girl who was 4-2 with one fight in the UFC for the flyweight title.
Nico Montano, they stripped her because she didn't make weight for one fight.
What?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Those are your friends, Joe.
joe rogan
Hey!
brendan schaub
Just kidding.
joe rogan
Listen, man, I don't want to be a promoter.
unidentified
Fuck that.
brendan schaub
You just keep doing your thing.
joe rogan
Fuck that job.
Fuck.
brendan schaub
You'll be working that one, though.
I was going to say, we could have done a companion, just frickin' went ham.
I know, we could have.
joe rogan
Damn it.
When are we going to do a companion again?
brendan schaub
Dude, when is everyone together?
When are you not working?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
When am I not working?
joe rogan
Well, I'm chilling out for a while now.
That show that I did in Toronto on Saturday night was my last big show for a long time.
brendan schaub
How long are you going to chill?
joe rogan
Quite a while.
brendan schaub
Because you've got to get another hour.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm at like 25 minutes, 24 minutes.
brendan schaub
You're still going to be doing sets?
It might be nice to take a little break, though.
joe rogan
I'm taking this week off.
brendan schaub
Just the week off?
joe rogan
Yeah, just relaxing and going to the UFC this weekend.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Hanging with the family.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm just looking forward to just...
I did it.
It's out.
Now I'm going to chill.
And then I need to...
We need to wait until October's over so I can do some mushrooms.
I need to get some new material.
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, you're in sober.
Sober October.
joe rogan
Sober October.
Are you going to do Sober October?
brendan schaub
I don't drink or smoke really.
I have nothing to be sober of.
joe rogan
So just say you're doing it.
brendan schaub
I mean, yeah, I do it year-round, but sure.
joe rogan
Want to get involved in the fitness challenge?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's easy.
Let's do that.
joe rogan
I got an extra one of these things.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Alright, let's do it.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
I just work out with you guys.
joe rogan
Look at that, you're in.
brendan schaub
Alright, I'm in.
unidentified
Easy, easy.
brendan schaub
What is it?
What do I got to wear?
joe rogan
This thing right here.
brendan schaub
Can I turn it into a headband?
joe rogan
No, you put it around your waist.
brendan schaub
Oh, sick.
joe rogan
Around your chest.
brendan schaub
And then I download the app?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Alright, I'm in.
joe rogan
I'll get you one of those.
I ordered an extra one.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
Thanks, dude.
joe rogan
Alright.
brendan schaub
I'm in, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But it's not much for me, though, because I don't really drink or smoke or anything.
Like, Stanhope's the big one, yeah?
joe rogan
He's got to go to a doctor.
Stanhope is getting measured.
He's getting his blood work done, and the doctor's going to go, you should be dead.
brendan schaub
I met him for the first time at the Comedy Store.
Super nice guy.
joe rogan
Oh, he's the best.
brendan schaub
I've also heard about him forever.
He's a really nice guy to me.
joe rogan
He's a sweetheart.
brendan schaub
I just think guys are going to be mean to me for whatever reason.
It's my own complex, but he's super nice to me.
joe rogan
You think they're going to be mean to you?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, because a few of them have been.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Some have.
joe rogan
Well, the people, they think you're infringing on their turf, you know?
brendan schaub
I get it.
joe rogan
It's stupid.
brendan schaub
I 100% get it.
joe rogan
Comedy is everybody's turf.
If you can do it, you can do it.
As long as you don't steal, it's everybody's turf.
brendan schaub
As long as the crowd's laughing, you don't steal.
Yeah, the crowd's not laughing.
Yeah, I don't belong to be there, but...
joe rogan
Don't steal and, you know, come up with your own shit and be nice to people and everyone should let you in.
We're all freaks and misfits.
The idea that one type of freak and misfit is okay but another type isn't.
You know, I had to deal with that especially early on.
brendan schaub
Were you self-conscious early on?
Because you're a bigger dude and you have tattoos.
Were you self-conscious of it?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why to this day I always go on stage with long-sleeved shirts.
One of the things that people said about strange times, like, why don't you wear fucking shirts that fit you?
Because I don't feel good in shirts that fit me.
I mean, I don't mind wearing a shirt that fits me to the movies or to a restaurant or something like that.
brendan schaub
But on stage, you're self-conscious about it?
joe rogan
I like loose things that don't show muscle.
I don't want anybody looking at my body.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I hear you.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, like you gotta...
You couldn't go on stage with a fucking tank top on.
brendan schaub
People are like, fuck this guy.
Any skinny jeans on?
unidentified
You don't fuck this guy.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Fuck this guy.
It's not funny, man.
joe rogan
But Theo goes on stage with a tank top, and it's all good.
brendan schaub
I know.
Brian can.
joe rogan
Chris can.
Yeah, it's no problem.
Don't tell Brian he can.
Brian will get upset.
Come on, guys.
Guys think I'm ripped.
brendan schaub
No, come on.
joe rogan
Too a lot of body weight.
brendan schaub
Work.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know when I found a legit massage lady...
Oh my god, this lady tortured me the other day.
brendan schaub
Do I know her?
joe rogan
No.
She is a trigger point specialist, and she's a strong lady.
And she gets that fucking elbow in your back.
brendan schaub
Is she a big girl?
joe rogan
Yeah, she's a big lady.
brendan schaub
That's how you know it's good.
joe rogan
She's fucking strong.
brendan schaub
Does she breathe hard?
joe rogan
Yeah, she broke me.
brendan schaub
That distracts me, but it's good for you.
joe rogan
Dude, my whole back to this day is still sore.
It was two days ago I got the massage and the areas where she broke down are sore.
Like she fucked me up.
Like she beat my ass.
I could use that.
brendan schaub
Was it an hour long though?
joe rogan
She did 90 minutes.
brendan schaub
Was she dripping wet with sweat?
joe rogan
Sweating like a pig.
brendan schaub
It's like pros and cons, right?
It's like you either get the big girl who sweats and takes up all the oxygen in the room or you get the soft Asian girl and it's not a good massage.
joe rogan
No, I don't want that.
I want to get hurt.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
Because she loosened up a lot of shit that was bothering the fuck out of me.
I realized the importance of that, and I haven't been doing it.
I'll tell you what, when I do yoga regularly, I don't need as much massage, but I think even then, you need it.
You need all the kinks to be worked out, broken down.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I love massages, man.
joe rogan
You know the Russian Olympic team?
I was reading something about Russian athletes.
They would get massages every day.
brendan schaub
On tons of steroids, but yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, a little bit of steroids.
unidentified
Yeah, a little bit of that, a little bit of that.
brendan schaub
It makes sense.
joe rogan
Did you ever have that guy Brian Fogle on your podcast?
brendan schaub
Brian Fogel.
joe rogan
He's the guy that directed Icarus?
brendan schaub
No, I didn't.
joe rogan
Did you see Icarus?
brendan schaub
I saw Icarus.
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
You should have him on.
He's amazing.
brendan schaub
Here's my thing, Joe.
When you had Teddy Atlas on, for him to come on in three hours, you have Brian Fogel or whoever.
When they do three hours on this, there's not much more I can cover.
Sure, I'll throw in some dick jokes or something.
I'm talking about dicks and fashion.
But once they go here, I don't want to...
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
No, no.
joe rogan
They're conversations.
unidentified
They're conversations, but you covered it for three hours.
joe rogan
Yeah, but believe me, you're going to cover it in a different way.
It's always how it is.
You're going to have your own take on things, especially as a guy who's actually fought professionally and actually played football.
brendan schaub
My only thing is, it's my own thing.
If I hear it on your show for three hours, I don't want to go over it on my show.
I'm like, I know this guy.
It's not a mystery anymore.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I see what you're saying, but I don't think...
I don't think that way.
When I heard Jocko on Tim Ferriss, I didn't say, oh, I don't want to have that guy on, because Tim Ferriss covered it thoroughly, which he did.
brendan schaub
Different.
Yeah, different.
I hear you, though.
I hear you.
Like with Justin Renn.
He's like, dude, coming to town, doing Rogan.
I'll do yours after.
I'm like...
If you're talking about kids and water in Africa for three hours in Rogan, you really don't need to do mine, bro.
joe rogan
He's bringing Rafael Lovato in as well, too.
unidentified
But again, you guys got this.
joe rogan
We're contributing to his fight for the forgotten.
We're donating money, and we're also a part of the Cash App.
Donates $5 every time someone signs up for the Cash App.
You use the promo code Joe Rogan, all one word, and the Cash App sends you five bucks, and the Cash App sends Justin Wren's Fight for the Forgotten five bucks.
Yeah, they've raised thousands of dollars just doing that.
brendan schaub
And building wells?
joe rogan
They've built two wells already.
They're in the process of building more.
brendan schaub
You guys are doing...
Are you guys going to do a benefit?
A comedy benefit?
joe rogan
I would do anything.
brendan schaub
I'll help out however I can.
But he doesn't need to come on my show to do it.
If he's going to go in here for three hours, I'll do whatever you want.
Well, it's the same like...
Make sure I don't forget his name.
It's the same like...
I was on the plane the other day, man.
And this...
I don't want to mess up his name and be a dickhead.
Oh, Ray Borg.
Have you seen Ray Borg and his son?
joe rogan
No.
His son was sick, right?
brendan schaub
His baby's having these surgeries.
And I saw someone post a shirt that Ray Borg...
Go to Ray Borg's Instagram or Twitter.
He posts a shirt.
He goes, all these proceeds from this shirt go to help me pay for my child's medical bill.
And so someone goes, Shob, look into this.
And so I click on it.
And I see, you know, I have a two and a half year old son.
I see his son on the, like the freaking respirator.
Broke my heart, man.
So I DM'd him.
And Ray, I'm sure a bunch of people hit you up, man.
There it is.
I DM'd Ray because we need help with the medical bills.
I will pay for your medical bills, Ray.
I will cover it, man.
So when I say here, I get emotional because I see his son.
When I say I'll help you, Ray, I'm dead serious, man.
I'm not one of these guys who just, I don't need the publicity.
I don't need any of that.
I sent you my, I DM'd you my number.
I will cover the medical bills, man.
I got you, brother.
I got you, man.
Hit me up.
It's not a game.
It's no publicity.
I will take care of you and your family.
That's it.
unidentified
Whoa, look at you.
brendan schaub
You got all emotional.
Dude, when I see this kid on there, man, fucking...
unidentified
Look at you.
brendan schaub
I never see you broken up like this before.
I know.
joe rogan
This took me by surprise.
brendan schaub
Sorry, dude.
I'm good now.
joe rogan
Do you know Ray?
brendan schaub
I don't know him at all.
Never met him.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Never met him.
joe rogan
So, how much money does he need to raise?
brendan schaub
I don't know, but I'm fucking rich.
I'm doing a show in Utah.
Donate all the money I make for my six shows in Utah does medical bills.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
That's beautiful, man.
brendan schaub
Wise Guys, St. Louis, October, I think 10th through the 12th.
I'm doing four, I think it's six shows.
I'll take all that money and you can have it, Ray.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a beautiful place, too.
brendan schaub
Great place, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Love Utah.
joe rogan
Does he not have medical insurance?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I don't think it covers it.
He's a broke fighter.
He's a broke fighter, man.
Dude, I'm so fortunate.
Me finding stand-up, and I got so much cool stuff in the works, and this Bravo show.
I'm like, dude, you just can't take, take, take.
I give to my family and all that.
I'm like, we have to figure something out here.
So when I saw that, I'm like, what the fuck, man?
joe rogan
That's awesome, man.
I love that.
I love that about you.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at you.
brendan schaub
I know.
I didn't mean to talk about it.
We got brought up on that.
But I reached out to him, and I think he thought, like, oh, I'm sure.
I'm not going to donate, like, $100 or something, man.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, maybe he just was overwhelmed, you know?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm thinking.
That's why I'm sure he listens to the show.
I know he listens to Fire and the Kid.
I just thought of it now.
joe rogan
Well, imagine the amount of time that it must be taking up to not just train, but also to deal with his son and his son's medical issues and the family and the bills and all the other stuff.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
My son stubs his toe and my heart drops, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard, man.
brendan schaub
Falls on the ground like, what the Isn't it crazy?
joe rogan
Did you ever feel so vulnerable in your life?
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
I'm terrified of the world now.
Terrified.
I'll be driving my car.
I'm like, gotta slow down, man.
joe rogan
Do you think of people different now that you have a kid?
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
I'm way more, I'm way more like, I'm more scared of the world.
I feel like I'm more loving now.
I also, if I have friends who are shitty dads, I barely hang out with them anymore.
I hold resent against them.
Because I'm like, dude, that little dude needs you so bad, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Now I feel the same way.
Yeah.
You know, the thing is, like, I feel sad for people who don't make the transition.
You know, there's a transition to being a father that some people resist.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Where it becomes a primary focus of your life.
It becomes a big, big, big deal.
But if you make that transition, the love that comes out of that, and the change that it brings about in you, and the benefits for your child, they're so substantial.
brendan schaub
Oh, I mean, and it's so cliché.
Oh, it's the best thing I've ever done.
Straight up, man.
I've had a cool fucking life.
It is by far the best thing I've ever done.
I want a squad.
I want, because the love I get from that little dude, I'm like, three of you would be even cooler.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you going to have more?
brendan schaub
Oh, 100%.
joe rogan
You're working on it right now?
brendan schaub
Yep.
100%.
joe rogan
Shooting live ones.
brendan schaub
Trying, man.
Trying.
It's fucking, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I don't know if this thing's working, but whatever.
You got a fucking tail.
A tail.
joe rogan
Yeah, they say take zinc.
Take zinc and magnesium.
brendan schaub
Now I'm taking all these weird pills.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Get that.
joe rogan
To get the loads.
brendan schaub
Get that cum going.
joe rogan
You got to save your loads, too.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Save your loads until the big day.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I went to a fertility clinic and they were all, when's the last time you jacked off?
Like right in front of my girl.
Yeah, I'm like, damn, bro.
joe rogan
You're like, I don't.
brendan schaub
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
Never.
brendan schaub
I forget.
joe rogan
Never.
I don't even do it.
I don't need to.
Look at me, bro.
brendan schaub
Dude, I had to go give them a sample.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brendan schaub
Just to see how my guys are swimming.
joe rogan
Did you try to fill the cup?
brendan schaub
Well, first of all, it wasn't very professional at all.
They're like, just go down there.
joe rogan
Was your girl with you when you had to give them a sample?
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Did you tell her to help you?
brendan schaub
She was busy talking to the guy in there.
She was talking to the doctor.
He's like, he'll just take you to the back.
I'm like, all right.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you had to jerk off knowing your girl's in the other room?
brendan schaub
Dude, so I walk into this room.
It's this Mexican dude just like, hey man, just go in there.
Don't touch anything.
Just fill up the thing.
unidentified
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
And he goes, oh yeah, the porn's on here.
It's like the old school TV, VCR, like old school.
I'm like, dude, I don't need any of this.
I have a fucking cell phone.
What the fuck?
I've heard of Pornhub, you fucking old dinosaur.
Get the fuck out of here.
He goes, we have magazines down there.
What are you, from the 70s?
joe rogan
What kind of bacteria is going to be on those sheets of paper?
brendan schaub
Oh, I know.
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Other dudes' loads and lube.
brendan schaub
I'll take it from here.
joe rogan
How sterile.
brendan schaub
I would have been super shady.
joe rogan
I would have told my wife, you're coming with me.
brendan schaub
Dude, I felt like it was embarrassing, too.
Like, I hand him the thing in a bag and he just looks at it, takes it out.
joe rogan
Look at your loads.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
I felt sick.
What if he opened it up and smelled it?
brendan schaub
Nah, you're good, man.
joe rogan
Eat a lot of asparagus, bro.
brendan schaub
And then when you're walking back, just everyone knows that you're coming back.
You just get done jacking up.
joe rogan
You should walk up with your arms up in the air like you scored the winning touchdown.
unidentified
Yes!
Yes!
brendan schaub
Enjoy that.
joe rogan
Fuck!
unidentified
Yes!
brendan schaub
But what happened?
This is my thing.
And I went kind of down to Eddie Bravo conspiracy.
I'm like, what if you're like, damn, your sperm's not good, dude.
We're going to need more loads.
joe rogan
And they take your sperm.
brendan schaub
They take that.
They're like, he's a big dude.
We're going to use his genetics.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
And they sell that shit black market.
There's a bunch of little browns running around.
joe rogan
You know what has happened many times, more than once, is these doctors at fertility clinics swap out other people's cum for their own, and they have a bunch of their own babies running around.
Like, these people have wanted specific genetics, and this one red-headed doctor just shoot loads of the cups.
And then everybody's like, hey, why does my fucking kid have red hair?
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
Why is he a redhead and nerdy, man?
joe rogan
One doctor got arrested.
I think he fathered like a hundred children.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah, something crazy.
Crazy person.
brendan schaub
Or awesome.
Give it back to the world.
joe rogan
I think he's just a crazy person.
brendan schaub
Spread his seed.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was running a sperm bank or a fertility clinic, one of those.
And he just decided, no, it's going to be all me.
All my loads out there.
brendan schaub
Dude, don't you think for like a retirement plan for these athletes?
joe rogan
Is this the dude?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is that image?
jamie vernon
That's him.
joe rogan
Oh.
brendan schaub
Okay, he looks like shit.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of these...
jamie vernon
52 counts.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of these guys.
It's not just one.
This was 1992. 92?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, no, I'm talking about, like, real recent.
brendan schaub
Dude, he got 280 years in prison.
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah, shit.
joe rogan
He got in prison for that?
brendan schaub
280 years, son.
joe rogan
280 years for jerking off.
jamie vernon
Who could be sentenced.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh.
brendan schaub
Dude, don't you think if you're a retired fighter, let's say, or athlete just in general, like Kershaw Walker, someone paid him a million dollars for him to blow a load into a cup.
joe rogan
Did you ever watch the HBO expose on Bikram from the Bikram Yoga?
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, he was fucking there, buddy.
joe rogan
Here he is, Indiana fertility doctor used his own sperm.
This is 2016. Around 50 times, papers say.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
This is a recent guy.
I think there's been a bunch of these guys throughout history.
I think they should test every one of those guys.
They should make sure that they're not doing that.
Anybody running a fertility clinic, I think it's just like you get bored over and over again.
Guys are jacking off into cups and you're like, you know what would make my day exciting?
If I take out this load and put it in my load.
jamie vernon
British man, 600 children.
joe rogan
There you go.
brendan schaub
Wow.
joe rogan
Fathered 600 children at own fertility clinic.
Wow.
Repeatedly using his own sperm fertility clinic he ran.
brendan schaub
That's some sketchy shit, man.
joe rogan
See?
I'm telling you, this is a normal thing.
Guys are gross.
brendan schaub
Guys are gross.
joe rogan
Men are gross.
brendan schaub
Have a woman run that thing.
joe rogan
Women who are anti-men, listen, I swear to God, we're not all like this, but I get it.
brendan schaub
I get it, too.
joe rogan
I really do get it.
I talked about it in my special.
brendan schaub
There's some creeps.
joe rogan
I mean, I talked about it in this last special.
I get it.
If I was a woman, I'd be a feminist.
I get it.
We're fucking gross.
But not all of us.
brendan schaub
Not all of us.
joe rogan
I would never jerk off into 600 cups and pretend it was someone else's lowest.
brendan schaub
That would never even cross my mind.
joe rogan
That's not me.
But I know that there's guys like that out there.
That does not surprise me in the slightest.
But if he's some fucking fat, gross guy with a little tiny dick and some woman with this banging ass and little tiny waist and big old titties comes in and she's like, you know, we're just trying to get pregnant.
We're really struggling.
So we decided to go the sperm donor route.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We got a super athlete and he's a genius.
Another guy.
He's a genius.
Doctor uses his own sperm to father of 11 kids.
Look at this guy.
brendan schaub
Old ass.
Look how old he is.
God dog.
joe rogan
He's got a broom on his head.
That might actually be his real hair.
brendan schaub
Fuck, no.
joe rogan
Let me see another image.
brendan schaub
That's the worst wig I've ever seen.
unidentified
Let me see that.
joe rogan
No, that's his hair, man.
brendan schaub
No, I don't think so, bro.
joe rogan
Back it up.
Back it up.
Pause.
Go full screen.
brendan schaub
No, you can get wigs like that.
joe rogan
That's his hair, bro.
I don't think so, dude.
brendan schaub
That is a wig.
You can get wigs like that, dude.
joe rogan
Bro, that's his hair.
You crazy.
He's just got whack hair.
Why would you get a wig and get it all gray and fucked up like that?
unidentified
Because you're 90. At least you're 90. Like, why do you want a wig?
joe rogan
Wouldn't you just want your head to be free?
brendan schaub
He's trying to fuck bitches, bro.
He obviously has a problem.
joe rogan
I see dudes with fucked up hair, and I just want to go up to them and go, listen to me, man.
There's so much freedom in shaving your head.
Just look at me.
I've never been happier.
Shave your head.
brendan schaub
It's easy for you.
joe rogan
If I had hair, I'd shave it.
If I had hair, I'd shave.
brendan schaub
No, if you had the set of hair like you did in your 20s, you would not shave.
Yes, I'd fucking shave.
Bro, come on.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
I would absolutely get a crew cut.
I'd get it buzzed down.
brendan schaub
You'd have a shaved head?
joe rogan
Nubs.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You had some nice hair, man.
There's some good pics.
joe rogan
Barely.
It's an illusion.
My hair was going quick.
brendan schaub
Was it?
joe rogan
I've always had thin hair.
Fine.
It's very fine.
They're not thick hairs.
You know, but I swear, even if I, I shaved my head, the first time I shaved my head back when I was fighting, I was like, so stupid.
I didn't want anybody to grab my hair.
That was my thought.
If you shave your head, someone can't grab your hair.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
So stupid.
But I was like 17 or 18. But I remember thinking like, God, this is so freeing.
brendan schaub
It is nice.
joe rogan
Like, yeah, you don't think about it.
You just wash and then go.
brendan schaub
Go.
joe rogan
There's no nothing, but you got a stylish coif.
You got a little shave on the side.
brendan schaub
Well, when I was fighting, I didn't.
When I was fighting, I shaved it, because I remember I was getting ready for a jiu-jitsu tournament, and I was fixing my hair in the mirror, and I was like, what the fuck, man?
How's this going to help?
Then I shaved it the next night.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
brendan schaub
And I did that for my entire career until I retired, and I'm like, it's time to get my sexy on.
I grew this shit out.
You don't want to have cauliflower ears and a shaved head.
Bravo's not hiring that guy.
Bro, relax.
unidentified
Relax.
joe rogan
So Bravo hired you, and are you liking it over there?
brendan schaub
I do like it.
joe rogan
What is that like, working for Bravo?
brendan schaub
I know.
I thought you were going to make fun of me when...
So Jerry O'Connell, who's on the show with me, he came, he saw one of my sets, came in the back, and you and Brian were back, and I was like, I'm about to get roasted by Rogan and fucking Callan.
You guys are so nice about it.
joe rogan
Why would I make fun of it?
I thought it's a good gig.
brendan schaub
It's a great gig.
joe rogan
It's perfect for your personality to just make fun of shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Originally, I didn't think it was a good gig.
One of the producers who does Below the Belt on Showtime, Michael Davies at MC Rowe, I was talking with him.
He goes, we're doing this Bravo show with Andy Cohen.
And he goes, you watch Bravo?
I go, all the time.
He goes, no, you don't.
Literally all the time.
Give me a question.
Name a show.
And he's like, you really do?
He goes, dude, we're putting the show together.
You should audition for it.
And I was like, I felt weird about it.
I talked to my agent.
I'm like, I don't know if that's for me, man.
He goes, just audition, see what happens.
But then I went in there and did a chemistry test with Jerry O'Connell.
He's hilarious.
joe rogan
Oh, Jerry O'Connell.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
He came backstage.
See, I didn't put the two together.
I didn't realize that he was backstage because he was doing that thing.
He's a very nice guy.
brendan schaub
He's nice and he's funny as hell.
And I thought, all right, this won't be too bad.
I know my Real Housewives, but I was like...
joe rogan
How many of those shows do you watch?
brendan schaub
I watch Real Housewives of Orange County, Married in Medicine, Atlanta, New York, Below Deck.
joe rogan
My wife, she's been DVR and Keeping Up with the Kardashians.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And it was on, you know, when you turn on the TV, it's already recording, so it's playing.
So I sat there, and as the show was on, my jaw got more and more slack, like this, like...
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
joe rogan
My eyelids got heavy, and I just got...
brendan schaub
All of a sudden you had a fake ass.
joe rogan
It droned me in.
It made me dumber and dumber.
My brain started drying out.
I changed it quickly.
brendan schaub
I gotta run.
joe rogan
I had to put on Neil deGrasse Tyson's show.
brendan schaub
Quick!
unidentified
Quick!
joe rogan
Put on Cosmos.
brendan schaub
I think I like it for me because fighting, what I do when I cover fighting, when I was fighting, it's so serious, man.
That's how I got into that stuff.
I was like, dude, I just got done.
Sparring Shane Carlin.
Let me go home and eat a bag of Twizzlers and watch Real Housewives of Orange County.
joe rogan
Watch some silliness.
brendan schaub
And then at frickin', here we are.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's fun when those bitches go off on each other.
They're so mean.
And you know, the thing is, like, when you get them on camera, and then they know they're on camera, so they try to be extra mean on camera.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
Yeah, they know exactly what they're doing.
joe rogan
Hey, I'm just keeping it real.
brendan schaub
I'm just being real, bitch.
joe rogan
You're being real.
You're being real cunty.
brendan schaub
I know.
It's cool seeing Jerry O'Connor, who's been in the industry forever, but then Andy Cohen, who's a producer on it, and then we had Kelly Rip on the show.
He's just around these entertainment monsters.
I like to see the way they work.
They're there for a reason.
You see Kelly Rip and how fast she is and how professional she is.
She's a monster.
Or Andy Cohen who puts all this together.
He's a monster.
joe rogan
Is she still doing that show with Michael Strahan?
brendan schaub
She does it now with Ryan Seacrest.
joe rogan
The same show?
brendan schaub
Same show.
It's called Kelly and Rhino.
joe rogan
So Strahan retired?
brendan schaub
He went to Good Morning America.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
And there was like a little bit of beef.
I don't know exactly what happened.
joe rogan
With her and him?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
She was like, I can't believe you're leaving.
And there's some weird beef, I guess.
joe rogan
I wonder if he gave her the beef.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
He might have, though.
I bet he has a tomahawk.
unidentified
Big fella.
brendan schaub
Yeah, big old fella.
Great football player, too.
joe rogan
Seems like a real friendly guy.
brendan schaub
A little too friendly ass, maybe.
A little too good on the mic.
joe rogan
Very charismatic.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's amazing.
joe rogan
And made no attempt to fix that gap in his teeth.
brendan schaub
Zero.
joe rogan
Kind of like that.
brendan schaub
Me too.
jamie vernon
I saw Matt Runyon one time.
He zoomed up.
He's fast as shit.
brendan schaub
He's one of the greatest players of all time.
jamie vernon
So fast up.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a super athlete.
You know what's amazing?
That a guy that's been playing that much football has knees.
Like, how's his knees still work?
brendan schaub
I agree.
It's very strange.
joe rogan
What's going on there?
brendan schaub
I'd like to get an MRI. Maybe he got injected with some frickin' stem cells and all that.
Same thing.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Dude, they fixed me the fuck up, man.
brendan schaub
I still need to do it.
I keep saying I'm gonna do it.
joe rogan
My fucking right shoulder was so jacked, and now it's like I don't have a problem with it at all.
There's nothing wrong with it.
brendan schaub
Your whole body feels better?
joe rogan
Well, they do it intravenously, and when they do it intravenously, it takes care of little things, and it takes care of things over a course of a few months.
Like, over one and two.
And by the way, what I had done here, in America, is nothing compared to what Dr. Neil Reardon is doing down in Panama.
With T.J. Dillashaw went down there.
That's why T.J. thanked him when he beat Cody and he won the title.
Or defended the title against Cody.
And that's why Mel Gibson was on, talking with Neil Reardon.
brendan schaub
Yeah, everyone swears by it.
joe rogan
Dude, Mel Gibson's dad was 92 on death's door.
Couldn't walk.
Now he's 100. And walking around.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They go there every few months.
Every few months get jolted.
brendan schaub
But what you do, it's not as good, but it's similar.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, they do it in America.
It's not as extreme, and they're doing tests on it.
They're called exosomes.
They used to think it was stem cells that were doing all the regenerative work, but now they think that stem cells are releasing exosomes.
So now they just take exosomes and they put exosomes with platelet-rich plasma and they inject them directly into injuries.
And they're having tremendous results.
Tremendous results?
Dude, I had a fucking full-length rotator cuff tear.
brendan schaub
I remember you had a huge problem.
joe rogan
It's gone.
brendan schaub
I need it for my neck.
joe rogan
My rotator cuff tear is gone.
It doesn't exist anymore.
I got a new MRI. There's no more tear.
That's fucking magic.
That's some magic shit.
brendan schaub
Most people would have to have surgery.
joe rogan
Yes, I was going to.
I was trying to put it off.
That's what I was trying to do.
I was like, eventually I'm going to have to have surgery.
Now I'm like, I don't need surgery.
brendan schaub
I see it from my neck.
joe rogan
What's going on with your neck?
brendan schaub
It got injured during the Travis Brown camp and then in my last fight, which is four years ago, which is a crazy thing about four years ago, when I went to go take down Travis, all his weight, he sprawled and landed on my neck.
And if you look at the tape, my neck folds like this with his hips on top of me.
I showed this in my neck.
And ever since then, it's been fucking just not great.
Did you ever get an MRI? I got one a while ago.
And there's one of the, what do you call them?
One of the things are dead.
One of your discs?
Yeah, one of your discs is like black.
joe rogan
Black?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I guess one of the discs.
There's an issue with one of the discs.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Black?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's that about?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
They don't know what that means?
brendan schaub
They did.
This was a while ago.
I should do it again.
That was right after the fight.
I should do it again.
joe rogan
After the podcast, we'll talk because I'll send you to my doctor.
I just sent Kenny Florian down there.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I could use it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're doing...
Well, one of the things they do for discs, they do stem cells as well, but they also do something called Regenikine.
That's the thing that Kobe Bryant and Peyton Manning, they were going to Germany to get done, and now they do it in America.
They've been doing it in America for quite a while now.
That's what fixed my neck.
When I had bulging discs in my neck and my hand was going numb, Regenicane fixed me.
brendan schaub
I need to do something.
I just got to make it a priority.
I've been so busy, I haven't been able to stop.
joe rogan
It's nice though.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at you out there hustling.
brendan schaub
Hustling.
joe rogan
Little birdie told me you got a Showtime special coming out.
brendan schaub
Got a comedy special coming out in January.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Are you going to film it in January or it's going to come out in January?
brendan schaub
Film it in January.
joe rogan
Where are you filming it?
brendan schaub
The Sprecklin Theater in San Diego.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
What day?
brendan schaub
What's the day?
I think it's on the 27th.
joe rogan
How many shows are you filming?
brendan schaub
Two.
joe rogan
Nice.
That's good.
brendan schaub
I know four's ideal, but we're doing two.
joe rogan
Four's ideal, but two's good.
brendan schaub
Yep, it's that Saturday.
It's the 20...
Or no, that's the 26th.
joe rogan
26th?
brendan schaub
You in town?
joe rogan
I am now.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Shop special.
unidentified
AUB special.
joe rogan
Bam, son!
brendan schaub
Big Boy Moves.
joe rogan
Yeah, alright.
Let me write San Diego there.
Okay, location, San Diego.
Yeah, Big Boy Moves, man.
Do you feel weird about filming something?
You feel pumped about that?
brendan schaub
Super pumped about it.
Super pumped about it.
Super excited about it.
I know the product, the quality is going to be great.
I guess for me, it's more of like...
Like, I told you, you're the first person I told, but I wouldn't go to the comedy store and be like, oh, what's up, dude, doing a comedy, you know?
I feel weird around other comics, because I feel like they're going to judge me, like, what the fuck, you doing a comedy special?
You can't listen to them.
It's not that I listen to them, I just don't, I feel like if maybe there's comics who've been doing it for 10 years, and they have no big-time special, you know, it's like, I don't want them to hold resentment toward, not that I can deal with any of that, but that's why I don't share it with everyone.
joe rogan
Well, I tell comics, the difference between you and them is that you have a professional athlete's work ethic.
And comics have very little work ethic.
They're lazy as fuck.
That's the number one problem.
If you say, what's the number one problem with comics?
Jerking off in front of women.
Number two, lazy.
brendan schaub
And I'd say number three, just self-sabotage.
A lot of comics I see doing the same material over and over.
Listen, me getting a special on Showtime doesn't take anything away from you.
It's a good level playing field.
They give out a ton.
Just because Chris Delia got a special on Netflix doesn't mean they took it away from you.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
There's room for everybody.
joe rogan
There is, yeah.
brendan schaub
Either you're just not funny or you're not putting in the work.
I have nothing to do with it.
joe rogan
Or, yeah, I mean...
Guys don't like to edit either.
That's another problem.
They don't like to chop their things down and boil them and make them better.
They have a bit, they say it a certain way, and they like to say it that way forever.
Can't do that.
Comedy is a living thing.
It's like a living art form.
It's constantly changing and evolving.
I had a friend come to see me, and then they came to see me four months.
They were like, dude, that fucking bit is totally different.
I'm like, yeah, you got to tweak it.
Got to always be tweaking.
brendan schaub
I think the only way for me to tweak is doing on stage.
I write it out different, but I only find it on stage.
joe rogan
100%.
brendan schaub
So I have to do those full weekends, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
That's where it's at.
Two, two, two, two, two, two, and just roll.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I find that even with theaters.
When I'm doing two theaters a night, I get more done than just one.
One of the things about these big places is you're just doing one show.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're really better off.
One of the things I'm looking forward to is somewhere around December, I'm going to start booking clubs.
I'll do Oxnard.
I'll do Levity Live in Oxnard.
I'll do the Comedy Works in Denver.
brendan schaub
Cubs?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'll do maybe even the Punchline in San Francisco.
brendan schaub
Or Sacramento, you mean?
joe rogan
San Francisco, too.
brendan schaub
Is there a Punchline?
joe rogan
Isn't there?
brendan schaub
I'm doing Punchline in Sacramento in November.
That's great, too.
joe rogan
That's a great little gig, but it's near a lot of cracked-out people.
brendan schaub
I've been there before, man.
joe rogan
That parking lot's sketch.
brendan schaub
I stay far away, drive on, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, that parking lot's sketch.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it gets a little sketchy there.
joe rogan
Yeah, Red Van almost got killed.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Walking back to the hotel.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
I don't stay at the normal.
joe rogan
Yeah, the parking lot's sketchy, but the club's awesome.
brendan schaub
So you start doing much more clubs?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the deal.
You have to have those four-set weekends, five-set weekends.
You'll have a bit that you come in on Thursday, and then by the time Saturday rolls around, that bit's alive.
It's cracking!
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
But it's also one of the great things about being able to work so much in LA. Like Thursday night I did four sets.
At the store?
No, I did three at the store and one at the improv.
brendan schaub
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I did two main room shows.
I had my show in the main room.
I did Skylar Stone's show in the main room.
And then I did the OR. And then before that, I did a show at the improv.
brendan schaub
I like the improv.
joe rogan
Improv's not bad, man.
You know, now that they push that fucking piano to the side.
brendan schaub
Piano out of the way, yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus, that piano was stupid.
Like, how many people use that fucking piano that you're blocking half the stage?
brendan schaub
Just Brian Kellen.
joe rogan
Does he use it?
brendan schaub
He'd get on their neck like he's playing the piano.
It's hilarious.
But not anymore, Brian.
They got rid of it.
joe rogan
Sorry, Brian.
brendan schaub
Sorry, B. Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, who would use it?
brendan schaub
Chris Robinson.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
brendan schaub
That's it?
joe rogan
That's it.
brendan schaub
Just an old school thing to do?
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
I think it's like a witty thing to have around.
Like, how many people who have a piano in their house actually play the piano?
brendan schaub
What a dick move.
joe rogan
Have a piano in your house?
Especially if you have the back part open.
brendan schaub
Oh, I know.
Like your Mozart or some shit.
Like you're gonna fucking run a whole time.
joe rogan
Dun-dun-dun-dun.
Dun-dun-dun-dun.
I wish I could play the piano, to be honest with you.
brendan schaub
I'd have people over and play it.
joe rogan
Would you interrupt the Super Bowl?
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
We're going to take a moment and I'm going to play this.
unidentified
I will now play a concerto.
brendan schaub
Everyone put your pizza down.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to drink white wine and I'm going to play the piano.
brendan schaub
Just the biggest dick move ever.
joe rogan
Do you ever think you get to the point where you're so pretentious you're willing to go to a musical?
brendan schaub
A musical?
unidentified
Or the opera?
brendan schaub
I'll go to some musicals, bro.
I went to Hamilton by myself in New York like a psycho.
joe rogan
Why'd you do that?
brendan schaub
And I left early.
joe rogan
Why'd you do that?
brendan schaub
I like plays and theater.
joe rogan
I went to see Annie at the Hollywood Bowl.
brendan schaub
Was it good?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
You took your kids?
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wasn't good.
brendan schaub
You don't like that stuff, though?
joe rogan
Nope.
brendan schaub
See, I like that stuff.
joe rogan
I was thinking about all sorts of other things.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
I was going over my act while it was happening.
I couldn't enjoy it.
I was so bored.
I know the story.
That's part of the problem.
It's like going to see King Kong.
Hey, guess what?
King Kong dies at the end, you fuck.
brendan schaub
Spider-Man 2. I'm over it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean...
brendan schaub
Yeah, we know the story, yeah.
joe rogan
Spider-Man's gonna live.
He's gonna become Spider-Man.
I mean, maybe there's some possible twists and turns if they're gonna redo it.
But at the end of the day, King Kong dies.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
And Annie, they didn't change a goddamn word.
brendan schaub
Were your kids loving it?
joe rogan
No, they were a little bored too.
brendan schaub
See, that's a prom.
Yeah.
But you know what's a fun one?
Well, this might be too much.
I don't know.
How old are your kids?
joe rogan
Eight and ten, the little ones.
brendan schaub
They have Nightmare Before Christmas live there where Danny Elfman comes?
joe rogan
Yeah, we've done that.
brendan schaub
That shit's dope.
That was good because they- I went last year as a grown man.
joe rogan
They also play, they have music, but they also play the movie.
brendan schaub
But they have the actual characters.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Like the lady from Home Alone, the mom.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
She's the voice.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
Danny Elfman.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Danny Elfman has that big dick energy.
joe rogan
Does he?
brendan schaub
He just rolls up there like, you don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
He's got that Scientology energy.
brendan schaub
Is it Scientology?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
He's got that Tom Cruise energy.
brendan schaub
Wow, bro.
Listen, that weird energy.
It does work.
joe rogan
Spaceship energy, bro.
unidentified
Spaceship energy.
brendan schaub
That's a new one, bro.
joe rogan
Doesn't seem to bother them.
brendan schaub
That's hilarious.
That's a good show, though.
But I went to Hamilton.
I had no idea.
I was there for a night.
I was shooting that Bravo show.
I'm all by myself.
Went and got a nice, proper meal.
joe rogan
Oh, so you did this recently.
brendan schaub
It's like three weeks ago, dude.
joe rogan
So you got a proper meal by yourself?
brendan schaub
All by myself.
Got the prime rib.
Just ordered the prime rib.
Very keto.
Ate by myself.
Expensive little meal.
I'm like, whatever.
See ya.
Went online.
Bought a...
Not a cheap ticket to Hamilton.
Sat there and was like, oh, this is cool.
joe rogan
So you just decided to do this because you're on Bravo.
Let me do some other gay things?
brendan schaub
Nah, man.
Just trying to live, bro.
Trying to embrace the New York vibe.
Broadway.
Live.
Everyone's been talking about Hamilton forever.
joe rogan
Are they really?
brendan schaub
Who are you talking to?
It's the talk of the town.
joe rogan
This is the first time anybody in front of me has ever talked about it.
Literally.
brendan schaub
Maybe in my circles, bro.
joe rogan
I just feel like...
brendan schaub
It was a big deal, so I get there, right?
And I'm like, all right, this will be cool.
And they wrap the entire time.
And so an hour and a half goes by.
I'm like, oh, that was fun.
And we go to get up.
I'm like, well, that was good.
And the guy's like, that's intermission.
There's another hour and a half.
I went, no fucking way.
So I thought, you know what?
Let's not waste money.
I don't want to disrespect the town.
Let's just sit down.
So I sat down.
Started to get back up.
This fat dude started to sing.
I went, you know what?
I'm fucking out of here.
And I walked out.
And as I'm leaving, the guy working goes, he knew me.
He goes, Shub, who leaves early?
Who leaves Hamilton early?
I went, I do.
And just fucking got out.
I was like, dude, I can't do it, man.
joe rogan
When I was 18 years old, I was dating this girl.
And she took me to see Cats.
brendan schaub
That's an old school one, yeah.
It's not your thing.
joe rogan
It was a murderous assault on my attention span.
brendan schaub
They're tough.
joe rogan
They're crawling around like I'm a cat.
It is the worst piece of shit.
I couldn't believe how bad it was.
brendan schaub
Nick Kroll had a great thing.
He goes, can we stop pretending you're in the fucking...
It's the Thomas Jefferson day?
He goes, what the fuck is this?
Why are you guys acting like you're in the middle of a fucking war zone?
You're on a fucking stage.
I was laughing so hard because that's his background.
joe rogan
Cats?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
He was in a war zone or Hamilton?
brendan schaub
No, no.
Hamilton, all these.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look how bad this is.
Rawr, I'm a cat.
brendan schaub
Dude, she must have been the hottest girl ever to get you to go to this thing.
She was hot.
I'd put up with some shit, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, she was 18, too.
We were both 18, and we were both like, maybe this is what adults do.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's go do this.
Let's go pretend to be adults.
brendan schaub
And then you were bored.
Was she bored, or was she all into it?
joe rogan
She was just like, sorry.
I thought it was going to be good.
brendan schaub
My bad.
joe rogan
I mean, she had never been before.
It was one of those things, you know, you hear, like, we're going on a date.
Let's go to a musical.
Okay, yeah, let's go see Cats.
brendan schaub
See, I'm not, I've never been, I won't ride it out.
I won't be like, oh, let's just get through this.
Even if a movie, if it's boring, I'm out, man.
I'm, see ya.
joe rogan
Good for you.
brendan schaub
See ya, man.
joe rogan
You gotta be able to do that.
brendan schaub
Gotta just pull the tree, like, this sucks, right?
joe rogan
Otherwise they're torturing you.
brendan schaub
The worst.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's the worst, man.
joe rogan
When was the last time you saw a good movie?
What's the last good movie you've seen?
brendan schaub
God, with the kiddo, it's tough to go to the movies.
joe rogan
Are you going to see Little Feet?
Are you going to take your kid to see Little Feet this week?
brendan schaub
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I want to see it.
joe rogan
I bet it's good.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, LeBron James is in it.
joe rogan
A lot of people say that's the first sign they knew that he was going to go to the Lakers.
brendan schaub
For sure.
When he's in Little Feet.
joe rogan
He's doing fucking Hollywood.
He's going Hollywood.
brendan schaub
I've been watching a bunch of shows on Netflix.
Have you seen Sinner with Jessica Biel?
joe rogan
No.
I heard it's amazing.
brendan schaub
That shit's really good.
She should have won the goddamn Emmy.
joe rogan
What is that, an encore show or something?
brendan schaub
No, it was on USA. It was on USA, and they brought it over to Netflix.
joe rogan
Oh, now it's on Netflix?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's on Netflix, and it is straight up.
It's intense.
The first episode, you're like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's damn good.
I haven't seen a good movie in a long time, man.
joe rogan
You watch Ozark?
brendan schaub
No!
I watched the first one and couldn't get into it.
What?
I know.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
I know, bro.
People love it.
They're on season two, right?
joe rogan
I'm on season two, episode nine.
brendan schaub
And you love it?
Dude, if I get a show I like, I will just fucking power through that thing.
joe rogan
It's a good show, man.
I'm telling you.
Give it a chance.
brendan schaub
I'm on it.
Yeah, I gotta get on it.
joe rogan
It keeps getting better, too.
brendan schaub
You're the second person who told me now.
joe rogan
It's fucking good.
What about Strange Times or Stranger Things?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Stranger Things.
Stranger Things.
joe rogan
Have you seen that?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
You've seen that, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's good.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
brendan schaub
They're doing season three now.
joe rogan
This is the best time ever to be a lazy fuck and just sit in front of the TV. There's more content.
And it's not like the content's going away.
That's what's really crazy.
brendan schaub
Dude, I laugh at shows.
Like, I'll watch Good Morning America or something in the morning at ESPN. When commercials hit, I laugh.
I'm like, you silly fucks.
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
What is this?
brendan schaub
I'm like, what are you doing?
I'm just going to go to something else.
I'm not dealing with this.
joe rogan
It's like AM radio.
brendan schaub
I know.
It's so old school.
unidentified
Commercials.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Interrupting them.
I get mad when people do commercials in the middle of podcasts.
Do you do commercials in the middle of your podcasts?
brendan schaub
No, I do them all up front.
joe rogan
That's right.
brendan schaub
You do them all up front.
joe rogan
That's how you do it.
brendan schaub
I mean, obviously I've learned from you, yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck all that interrupting.
I think people get upset and they'd rather not buy.
I think if people were inclined, they were like, you know what, Chubb?
I'll try the Squarespace shit out because you advertise it in front of your podcast.
brendan schaub
And get it fucked up in a row.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
We've had some that ask for mid-roll, but it's very rare.
Usually it's all up.
Everything's up front.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Everything's up front.
joe rogan
It's the way to do it, man.
brendan schaub
Even with FM radio, I'd go into certain cities and I just had this conversation with my agent.
I'm like, dude, I'm not doing press anymore.
I'm not doing press because also it's a different animal for me because these big sport FM radio stations bring me on.
Conor McGregor, Khabib, break it down.
I'm like, I got my own show, bitch.
It's turning to Showtime.
It's turning to Below the Belt, my podcast.
Listen to that.
Me breaking down Conor Khabib is not selling any comedy tickets.
You want to talk about just life, I'm down.
You want me to break down the fucking Broncos game or Khabib Conor?
It's not happening, man.
joe rogan
Well, there's also a problem with, if you're lucky, your personality goes well with them.
But I've had many, during my days of doing the road and doing radio, I've had many times where I just did not vibe with the person who was the DJ. Not at all.
And it became a real issue.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and then you come off as a dick.
Like, some things I'd be like, I don't want to talk about that.
Like, you know what I'm talking about?
No, I don't want to talk about an ex-girlfriend.
Do you want to talk about an ex-girlfriend?
Like, what are you doing, man?
joe rogan
Yeah, like, what are you doing?
Like, you just try to make things controversial because you're not interesting.
brendan schaub
Yeah, or...
joe rogan
You want to make you uncomfortable.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude, or I'll...
You and Dana White, what's the deal there?
I'm like...
No deal.
What do you want?
How am I going to make this and sell comedy tickets?
How's that going to work, dude?
joe rogan
Well, it's just they're not that good.
brendan schaub
No.
There's a reason why they're on radio.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people out there doing it that are just not that good at it.
There's some who are great.
I used to think that when I was doing it.
When I was doing radio, I'd be like, you're just not an interesting person.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
You're like noise in between people that are talking, that are interesting, that you're interviewing, in between music.
And you have a giant ego.
brendan schaub
Yep.
They have the biggest egos.
And also, it's so old school to move tickets.
It doesn't make sense to me.
joe rogan
Well, you know what's more old school and more gross?
Those morning TV shows.
Good morning, Dallas.
Hi, we're here with Brendan Shaw from the UFO. And he's here to talk about knuckle fighting or something.
unidentified
What do you do?
brendan schaub
Dude, I did one in smoke, and it was the last.
Literally, I was like, oh, I'm out.
There's no more.
I'm never doing this again.
There's no more.
Here we are with Brendan Schwab.
unidentified
Brendan, UFC, NFL, comedy.
brendan schaub
Where do you stop?
Real quick.
How about the weather?
And had me read the...
And I went, what?
And they go, you want to take the weather from here?
I went...
Take the weather?
I'm like, you want me to read your weather report?
joe rogan
You should stick your butt out like that one Mexican chick with a giant ass.
Have you ever seen her?
brendan schaub
Oh, in the Mexican?
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, she makes me sweat.
brendan schaub
I would read her weather.
joe rogan
Is she Mexican or South American?
I forget.
brendan schaub
She's Mexican.
joe rogan
Oh, my Jesus.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude, she is.
Oh, my God.
See, that's different.
joe rogan
You should look at her before you jerk off into a cup.
Here she is.
Look at her.
Oh my god.
Look at this.
She's wearing almost nothing.
unidentified
Dude!
joe rogan
Look at that booty.
Look at that booty.
They can't help but stare at Garcia.
What is her name?
Mexican.
Yanet Garcia.
Break the internet.
Oh my god.
Her body's off the charts.
Temperatura.
brendan schaub
They're doing it fucking right, aren't they?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how you do it.
Yeah, I mean, who gives a fuck if she knows anything?
You know, who knows?
brendan schaub
1.3 million for just having a blowout ass.
joe rogan
That is a blowout ass, too.
brendan schaub
Perfect body.
joe rogan
Look at her.
Look at her in her underwear.
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
Look at that butt.
She is gorgeous.
joe rogan
She's pretty goddamn hot.
See?
Now, that makes sense.
What you should do is go out there and get down your underwear and stick your ass out.
brendan schaub
I need to do some shows in Mexico, it sounds like, and do some press.
Remember when I said no press?
Correct.
joe rogan
I'm here to do the Mexican weather.
brendan schaub
And I'm just here to do the weather.
joe rogan
Only here to talk about clouds coming in.
jamie vernon
She just broke up with a pro gamer, Call of Duty.
brendan schaub
Oh, so she's single, huh?
joe rogan
She was dating a nerd?
That's amazing.
brendan schaub
Rich nerd, though.
joe rogan
Nerds are coming up.
brendan schaub
Rich nerd.
joe rogan
Those Call of Duty nerds are coming up.
jamie vernon
I just heard about her recently for some reason, and that's what it was.
joe rogan
Pro gamers might as well be golfers now, right?
jamie vernon
Dudes get paid.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
They might as well be golfers in terms of money.
brendan schaub
Them and YouTubers.
Like, right?
Like, just straight YouTubers?
A lot of them stupid money.
Hate, son.
And no major network, nothing.
joe rogan
Nothing.
brendan schaub
If you ask freaking Logan Paul, come on, Good Morning America, he's like, suck it.
What the fuck?
jamie vernon
He dumped her to work on Call of Duty.
brendan schaub
He what?
joe rogan
He dumped her to work on his Call of Duty game.
brendan schaub
Let me see this kid.
joe rogan
She probably wanted too much dick.
Oh, he's a handsome fella.
Handsome old Mexican fella.
brendan schaub
He might have something else in the works.
joe rogan
Blowout booty.
Yeah, like other dick.
How does he, like, pass up on her?
Just let her ride it while you're playing the game.
brendan schaub
Dude, maybe she's terrible in bed, though, and he's like, fuck this noise.
joe rogan
That's not even physically possible.
brendan schaub
You know what?
You're right.
When you're right, you're right.
That's like saying there's a bad Porsche to drive.
It's just, no.
They're all great.
joe rogan
You can fix it up.
There we go.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, that's the two of them together?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he broke up with her.
brendan schaub
Dude!
joe rogan
I'm confused.
brendan schaub
Is he into cock?
joe rogan
There must be something wrong with his brain.
Look at him.
He's jacked, though.
brendan schaub
Dude, he flexed out.
Me, too.
He's probably nasty on sticks.
Look at her, though.
joe rogan
Good googly moogly.
brendan schaub
Dude, I would give it all up.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Good lord.
Good lord.
Good lord, the body on that lady.
brendan schaub
Damn, he dumped her.
He's like, move on, bitch.
joe rogan
Listen, man, those guys are coming up.
brendan schaub
Breaking news, I'm out.
joe rogan
Pro gamers coming up in this world.
brendan schaub
Dude, apparently.
joe rogan
It's a different life.
brendan schaub
Drop some breaking news on her ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just got tired of that one.
brendan schaub
There's someone out there tired of fucking Beyonce, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
That's what I heard.
brendan schaub
His name's Jay-Z. That's what I heard.
Yeah, but people get sick of it.
People get sick of it.
joe rogan
If you like it, then you should have put a ring on it.
Any other fights to talk about?
We done?
I think we're done.
brendan schaub
I think we're done, brother.
We covered it all.
joe rogan
When is the fucking next fight, Companion?
Let's figure that out, Jamie.
Pull up the schedule.
brendan schaub
I'm on the road damn near every weekend, but let's figure it out.
joe rogan
What do we got, Jamie?
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
Octavio.
October 27th might be a possibility.
Hold on.
October 27th, Volkan Ozdemir versus Johnson.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Click on that?
jamie vernon
Anthony Smith.
joe rogan
Anthony Smith, rather?
I was going to say Anthony Johnson.
brendan schaub
You said that's the 27th?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'm in Phoenix with your boy Ari and Big J doing a show with Theo and Brian.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
That sounds like better.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
That sounds like more fun.
brendan schaub
You should come with us.
joe rogan
Wish I could.
Wait a minute.
What is the Denver one?
The Denver one is Cowboy versus Mike Perry, too.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's a motherfucking fight.
joe rogan
That's November 10th?
What are you doing there?
brendan schaub
Let me see.
Oh, I'm in town.
I'm in town.
joe rogan
That's it.
Fight Companion.
I'm putting it in right now.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Fight Companion.
brendan schaub
I'm putting it in my calendar, too.
joe rogan
That's a scary one for Cowboy.
brendan schaub
That's a fun fight for everybody.
Look at this card.
joe rogan
Benavidez versus Ray Borgs on that card.
Cowboy Mike Perry.
Korean Zombie vs.
Frankie Edgar.
brendan schaub
First team all dime pieces in Yoda vs.
Cooper.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
Raquel Pennington returns against Jermaine Durandamy.
She's like, yeah, fuck all that 145 pound title.
brendan schaub
She said, fuck your title.
joe rogan
I'd rather fight on the undercard.
What is the Dime Piece one?
brendan schaub
Yoder vs.
Cooper.
Now, the UFC pictures aren't flattering, but if you look at their Instagram.
joe rogan
Did you see Mackenzie Dern made a video for Joey Diaz saying she's going to kick his ass after a whole thing?
brendan schaub
She was joking, though?
joe rogan
Smelling her ass.
brendan schaub
Was she joking, though?
joe rogan
Yes, she was laughing.
brendan schaub
She's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dare you, Sean, that card, too.
That's a good card, man.
Fight Companion, Denver.
joe rogan
Fight Companion, Denver.
It's in.
We're locked up.
All right.
That's it.
All right.
TFATK.com.
brendan schaub
I'm at Salt Lake City.
That is October 10th through the 12th.
And after that, I'm in San Francisco.
Cobbs.
After that, Sacramento.
Boom.
TFATK.com.
joe rogan
TFATK.com.
brendan schaub
Thanks, brother.
joe rogan
Thanks, brother.
Bye, everybody.
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