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Oct. 1, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:07:27
Joe Rogan Experience #1177 - Sober October 2
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bert kreischer
57:48
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joe rogan
01:28:39
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tom segura
26:42
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donald j trump
00:01
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jamie vernon
00:33
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joe rogan
Five, four, three, two, one.
Dude, it seemed like we just did this.
tom segura
It does feel like pretty recent.
joe rogan
How was it a year ago?
tom segura
I don't know.
bert kreischer
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's already October.
I'm scared.
Let's just fucking spark up a joint bill right now.
unidentified
What?
tom segura
No!
joe rogan
These fat blunts.
tom segura
One of them backwoods.
joe rogan
Smell one of these backwoods.
These are so good.
Just smell it.
Just smell it.
bert kreischer
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
You know, everyone was commenting on your blunt rolling technique after the Elon Musk thing.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't roll them.
bert kreischer
I know, they were like, and I knew that, and they were like, oh, what is he?
He can barely roll a blunt.
I was like, it's professionally rolled.
It's a pretty good blunt.
joe rogan
You can't read those comments.
tom segura
That does smell good, man.
joe rogan
That smells so good.
They taste good, too.
Those are phenomenal.
I'm a blunt man.
I know it's probably bad for your lungs, but there's something about...
The tobacco gets you a little high up, and then the marijuana sort of spreads you out, and it puts you in a new dimension.
tom segura
Yeah, that's a good one.
joe rogan
I'm going to get blitzkrieged after Halloween, kids.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
Imagine how high you'll get, too, after 30 days off.
joe rogan
Last year, I did comedy.
I had no idea what I was talking about.
While I was on stage, I was like, oh, my God, there's 400 people in this room.
I don't even know what I'm saying.
bert kreischer
I almost thought of bringing in all my marijuana and booze in here like in the Old West when you had to turn in your guns and just dumping them on the table.
Because I have so much marijuana, it's ridiculous.
joe rogan
I know, it's crazy.
tom segura
I keep a bunch.
joe rogan
We've got a stack of whiskey over there and then we've got another cabinet full in the back.
You can get fucked up hard here in this place.
tom segura
We're going to get ripped on the first.
joe rogan
Remember when we did the podcast on the day back?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those were fun shit.
Ari is so much more fun when he's high.
He's so scary and grumpy when he's sober.
tom segura
He's such a grouchy dog.
joe rogan
He gets, like, legit angry.
Like, he could joke around about anything when he's high, when he smokes weed.
But then when he's not smoking weed, you're like, wait, wait, wait.
Are you fucking serious?
tom segura
He gets upset.
bert kreischer
Do you remember when you texted the 3S? You're like, Ari, I don't think you're doing the right classes.
Do you remember the meltdown?
joe rogan
I said I think you're going to have to do them again.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
Obviously, I'm fucking joking around.
You're calling me a liar!
bert kreischer
Say I'm a liar!
Say I'm a liar to my face!
unidentified
Didn't he call?
joe rogan
I love you!
tom segura
He called you, right?
He called you upset.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he was upset.
I don't remember if we texted or called, but I go, Ari?
I love you.
I'm just joking.
I'm sure you do.
One thing about Ari is, this is one thing you could say, after all the welching talk and all the nonsense, Ari has rock solid ethics.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, rock solid.
tom segura
Yes, he does.
joe rogan
Like, if Ari says he's going to do something, he does it.
Like, so if I'm fucking with him and saying, I don't think he's doing it.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I don't really mean that.
tom segura
Right, right.
You're just kind of, you're poking at him.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So, if you're out there, Ari, and you hear this, I'm only fucking around.
I know you're doing it.
But I'm not talking to you for the next 31 days.
unidentified
It's too dangerous!
tom segura
He came to our class for that last one.
He was like, this is so much easier than my class.
I can't believe you questioned how hard my class was.
joe rogan
The one we did in Encino?
tom segura
Yes.
He was like, this is so easy compared to what I've been doing in New York.
joe rogan
Look, it's all easy if you go easy.
tom segura
I guess, yeah.
joe rogan
It's all how you do it.
If you do hot yoga and you go 100% every pose, it's fucking hard as shit.
tom segura
Doesn't matter who's teaching.
Yeah, it's hard.
joe rogan
There's this guy that I go to yoga with.
unidentified
Is that vodka?
bert kreischer
Yeah, for sure.
No, it's water.
joe rogan
100%.
bert kreischer
I have a drinking problem, legit drinking.
joe rogan
He needs water.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
There's this guy that I go to yoga with who is...
It seems like he just doesn't ever go 100%.
He's sort of just kind of...
Like, you know how you put your arms above your head?
He always does this.
He's never doing this where he's fully stretched out, extended, his palms connected.
When you do that, it's hard.
If you just kind of half-ass every pose and do this, yeah, you can get through a 90-minute class.
You're not doing the same thing as other people.
tom segura
If you go to a group training class somewhere, you can see people and there's that 63-year-old lady who's doing it with you.
She's on her knees.
She's like, this is hard talking at a normal rate.
You're like, you're not doing it.
bert kreischer
I got in trouble at my CrossFit class because I was just getting pissed.
I was throwing up every day.
I was throwing up every single day.
I was also drinking a coffee right before it started.
So I was throwing up coffee every single day.
And one day I just snapped.
I go, hey, the black guy's not doing his burpees.
joe rogan
The black guy.
unidentified
Jesus.
bert kreischer
That's what they said, Joe.
That's what they said.
They go, hey man, we don't talk like that.
He's got a name.
I go, I don't know it, but I'm pointing to him.
He's not doing his burpees.
joe rogan
Why do you care?
bert kreischer
And then the joke I made out of it was, hey, Wendell, the gay guy says I can't call you the black guy, but you're not doing your fucking burpees.
unidentified
The gay guy!
bert kreischer
I might go back to CrossFit.
I like the idea that we're doing this in a general heart rate sense, because you can sprinkle it in.
I want to go to a spin class.
You definitely can.
tom segura
And by the way, that is how, if you want to get a real bump in those points, it's about a bump in heart rate, sustained, accelerated heart rate.
So a spin class is going to get you a bunch.
You know what I mean?
It's not like Joe, I don't know if you know this, he's like a way better athlete than you, but it doesn't mean that...
bert kreischer
Actually, we put a pin in that.
We have a month to find out.
tom segura
It doesn't mean that he'll automatically beat us because he's in better physical condition.
You can actually beat him if you're going to push it all the time.
bert kreischer
What is it in your brain that makes you do that?
Because we just looked at your MEPs and you burned a thousand calories.
Is there some sort of...
I talked to Pat McAfee one time.
He said it's about explosivity.
joe rogan
It's about rape and murder.
My head's filled with it.
Stopping rapists and stopping murderers and killing child molesters.
That's what I think about.
Killing bad people.
bert kreischer
When you work out?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's what I do when I get tired.
If I get tired, I think about saving someone I care about.
I think about stopping someone who's trying to murder someone I love.
That's what I think about.
tom segura
I love your face.
joe rogan
I'm not kidding.
bert kreischer
I think about my second wife.
joe rogan
I think about protecting people I care about.
tom segura
Didn't you tell me one time, if it's hard, you'll go pretend like someone's trying to kill me?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
tom segura
So you're like pretending?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I don't have words for that.
joe rogan
That's what you gotta do.
Think about worst case scenario.
You're tired and someone's trying to kill someone you care about.
And you don't have enough energy to stop them.
bert kreischer
But do you think you learned that switch in Taekwondo?
joe rogan
Yeah, I learned it from martial arts, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, because that's the scariest place you could ever be.
The scariest place you could be is life and death.
Just putting yourself in, oh, I just want to lose weight.
Okay, good.
Yeah, that's good.
But you're not going to save yourself.
You've got to put yourself in animalistic fury.
That's how you've got to put yourself.
You've got to put yourself in this state of just 100% effort.
I was pegged at like 180, 177 beats per minute for the last 35 minutes.
tom segura
That's really...
bert kreischer
That's great.
joe rogan
You've got to do it.
bert kreischer
See, that David Goggins guy got in my head with just embrace the suck.
I can get there.
Like doing the marathon, I just go, this is where I'm going to be for the next five and a half hours.
This is where I'm at, and this is what I'm doing.
And I can wrap my head around that.
I don't know if I can wrap my head around, like, I don't know the explosivity of it and going, like, I'm gonna save my family and then getting...
tom segura
But that might not work for you, but there still could be a different tactic that works for you.
You know what I mean?
bert kreischer
No, no, no, I meant even, like, going that fucking hard to where your body is completely giving out.
There's part of me that goes, hey, man, what are we doing here?
You know, like, even when I'm working out, I go, that's really fucking hard.
joe rogan
Well, you definitely have to protect your health, right?
Like, the last thing you want to be doing this and having a heart attack...
bert kreischer
That's always my fear as I go, easy buddy.
joe rogan
Yeah, easy buddy is a good way to look at it.
But I've been doing that kind of working out forever.
That's how I work out.
I just go crazy.
I go crazy.
tom segura
Don't you ever think, have you ever thought about someone who like really disrespected you right before you lift?
You know what I mean?
Like right before a set?
bert kreischer
Dude, that's all that happens online.
unidentified
Are you serious?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't read that shit.
bert kreischer
It's just open up my comments.
tom segura
But he's never like, you don't ever, I've gone to like a moment, you know, where you're like, I wish I would have cracked that dude in the face.
And then right before, right before a set.
bert kreischer
No, I have not.
And I know, I definitely know what I want.
I know who I'm thinking about.
I'm going to try it.
joe rogan
All right.
Don't say any names.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
What does he rhyme with?
In order to really get yourself into that place, you don't have to think about something that's terrifying and negative.
But to me, that's the ultimate position where you're going to need energy.
bert kreischer
This is so silly.
The best shape I've ever been in is when I met my wife.
I was 186 pounds.
joe rogan
Damn!
bert kreischer
Yeah, dude, I look.
joe rogan
You must have been shredded.
bert kreischer
Jamie, type in Skinny Burt.
joe rogan
I've seen those pictures.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah.
I don't even look.
joe rogan
You almost had a six-pack.
Almost.
You had a three-pack.
bert kreischer
And I had, like, side muscle.
joe rogan
Yeah, a little oblique.
bert kreischer
I'm going for that this month.
I'm really going hard.
I'm going hard this month.
You can do it.
I said to Jamie...
I made a deal with myself.
Every day I'm going to do 50 air squats and 50 push-ups.
I was going to do 100. Look at that!
joe rogan
Look at Skinny Burt!
bert kreischer
Damn, dude.
You were a fucking stud.
joe rogan
But you were a fucking stud.
bert kreischer
That was when I was in spin class.
joe rogan
Look how skinny your face is.
Your face was super skinny after last year's Sober October.
That photo that you posted, that you sent to us.
Look at my skinny face.
bert kreischer
I'm going back.
I'm going hard this month.
I really am.
Because I'm going to enjoy it.
Last month, I think...
Last time I did it was out of spite.
I wanted to prove to everyone I could stop drinking.
This month, I'm going into it having not drank probably a third as much as last year.
Meaning, like, I've drank three quarters as much.
Does that make sense?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
bert kreischer
And so...
But when I was in spin class, we had Bob from The Biggest Loser was our spin class teacher at Crunch.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
Wait a minute, is Bob the coach from The Biggest Loser or the contestant?
bert kreischer
Coach.
joe rogan
I've never watched that show.
bert kreischer
He was amazing.
His inspiration was so connected.
He connected to me so quickly.
One time, it's right before Thanksgiving, and I'm looking good.
I've got to go to a wedding, my buddy's wedding.
And I'm on the bike, and he goes, alright, everyone out of the saddles.
We're going to be out of the saddles for two minutes.
And I'm like, fuck this.
And then he says...
I felt like he was talking to me.
He goes, you're going home for Thanksgiving.
You're going to see all the people in high school, all the people that didn't want to have sex with you.
Do you want them to want to have sex with you this weekend?
And I was like, yeah.
And he goes, then stay out of that fucking saddle.
Stay out of that saddle and earn your Thanksgiving dinner.
And go out to bars the night before and say, I won't fuck you.
I'm better than you.
And I'm just going, I want them to fuck me.
I want them to fuck me.
joe rogan
Damn, Bob.
bert kreischer
I think of that Bob.
joe rogan
Bob went hard in the paint.
tom segura
Dude.
bert kreischer
That connected with me so hard.
That vanity of like, I want people to want me.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny, man?
That motivated so many comedians.
Just being a loser in high school, and I'll show you guys.
I'll show you.
tom segura
There's people that take them straight to their deathbed, too.
They're still like, yeah, fucking Sarah.
Seventh grade.
This is for her.
bert kreischer
My motivation is, I think I'm getting to the bottom of it, is I want people to like me.
joe rogan
People love you.
bert kreischer
I know, but I think I do that in an unhealthy way.
Thank you, Joe.
unidentified
It's pretty good, too.
bert kreischer
Thank you.
For real?
You two liking my special is the best compliments I've gotten.
joe rogan
You worked hard at it.
You can tell.
bert kreischer
Thank you very much.
Everyone, it's secret time.
It's streaming right now, but Joe Rogan's special drops tomorrow?
joe rogan
Tonight.
bert kreischer
Tonight at midnight.
joe rogan
Midnight.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Dude, that trailer's one of the best trailers I've seen for a special in a long time.
joe rogan
I worked hard at it.
I hope people like it.
Some people are going to hate it, but that's normal.
unidentified
That is normal.
joe rogan
I worked at it as hard as anything I've ever worked on, ever.
For sure.
tom segura
This hour.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I fucking went hard on this one.
bert kreischer
It's a good feeling to get done with something and go, I did the best I could do.
joe rogan
I did the best I could do for sure.
100%.
I couldn't have done any better because if I did any more, the only thing that you could say is maybe a little more time, maybe a month or two more time on some of the bits.
But you never know when that is.
There's a period where they're developing and then they mature and then they're solid.
And then you never know.
Are they done or is there one One more tagline that I'm missing here?
Because you know how, like, it's always the case.
You film, and then right after you're done, you have a brand new tagline that makes the bit five times as good.
tom segura
It's always like the next Saturday.
You're like, you motherfucker.
bert kreischer
The next week, I wrote that.
I did that special.
The next week, I'm in Michigan doing some theater, and I had that Alexa bit about fucking Alexa talking back.
I talked to Alexa like I talked to women, and whatever the bit is.
And the next week, I write the bit.
We said a fleshlight attachment for Alexa, so I could shut her up the way I want to.
unidentified
Wow!
bert kreischer
And fuck, I'm like, goddammit, where the fuck was that?
joe rogan
Goddammit.
tom segura
Your mind doesn't open up all the way until it doesn't have any pressure.
So it's like the pressure's gone, and then you're like, oh, I could take it here, I could take it there, and you're like, I wish I could think like this before I record, but you can't.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting is that we've talked about this, that after the special's over, you're like, I don't have any material, and I don't have anything to think about.
tom segura
So terrifying.
joe rogan
But you always find it.
Like, over time, and then before you know it, like, wow, I got a new hour.
tom segura
Yeah, it happens.
joe rogan
It happens.
tom segura
And it happens quicker the more you've done it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, because you know you can do it.
That's one of the sad things about these guys.
Like, I was talking to a guy the other day, like, how long have you been doing comedy?
And he's like, seven years.
I go, how much time do you have?
He's like, 20 minutes.
I go, that's fucking ruthlessly unacceptable.
tom segura
It's terrible.
joe rogan
I go, you're lazy.
Like, you've been doing comedy for seven years, you have 20 minutes.
And out of those 20 minutes, 10 you should throw away.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
But that's what happens.
tom segura
But they're not doing it enough.
You're not doing it enough.
joe rogan
They don't get enough sets, and this, you know, it's hard.
You're doing open mics, and when you're doing open mics, everyone sucks.
So you look like a hero if you have anything that's remotely humorous.
But then you try that remotely humorous stuff, and you do it at the Ice House, and people are like, huh.
You know, like, you go on between you and you, and, you know, you do this bullshit that you're just doing an open mic night, and people are just not having it.
tom segura
That's why real sets are so different than, you know what I mean?
If you don't get in front of real crowds, and it's not, you know, it's not entirely up to you, obviously, when you're starting out, it's hard to get in front of real.
bert kreischer
What do you mean real crowds?
tom segura
Like a real show, a professional audience.
bert kreischer
Oh, like not just open mics?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Those bringer shows and open mic shows.
tom segura
That's why it's invaluable even if you give somebody an opportunity to come on your show for them, like an up-and-comer, because they don't normally have real audiences to perform in front of.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's giant for them.
It's a wake-up call.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
Then they're like, holy shit, this is a real show.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People have expectations.
They pay money.
When you go to one of those open mic nights, people are just drunk and everyone's terrible.
So you're just laughing at basically anything.
tom segura
Yeah.
Someone can kill by how bad they are.
Yeah.
unidentified
For sure.
tom segura
People are just like slamming the table.
joe rogan
Peter Chen made an almost career out of that.
Yeah.
Peter Chen.
He was a guy who was so bad.
Chris McGuire was auditioning for Mitzi, and Mitzi thought it was funny, because Mitzi was so hilarious.
She thought it was funny that one of the worst comics in L.A. Don't pull his picture up.
Was hosting the open mic night.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, she thought it was funny.
But I knew that McGuire was going to have to audition for Mitzia, so I said, fuck that.
So I called up the store, I said, I'm hosting.
I said, I'll host the open mic night.
So I came down and hosted the open mic night just to keep him from hosting it.
bert kreischer
That's great.
tom segura
So you did that as a save for your buddy?
joe rogan
Yeah, because I knew he was going to...
There would be too much to address, and you have three minutes.
There'd be too much, too much chaos to address.
tom segura
I hosted a show as a favor one time and ended up snapping on a lady in the audience and ruined the show.
They were like, thanks.
joe rogan
Why did you...
tom segura
Dude, because I arrived...
It was a showcase for Montreal.
And I arrived at the show before it, right?
So there's like a 7 o'clock thing and then the 9 o'clock showcase.
And they asked me to...
To host it.
And a lady at the 7 o'clock show, at the earlier show, is in the front row, just yelling out, drunk.
And she's older, and she's like, yeah!
Tagging every comics thing, commenting on it, and I'm like, ugh.
And I'm just so irritated, but I'm like, well, at least, you know...
This show's almost over.
So the show ends, you know, people leave.
We're getting ready to start a second show.
I look, she's staying in her seat.
And I was like, you gotta be kidding me.
So, second show starts, and I'm already, you're primed.
You know, like, if you watch something that gets you agitated, and then...
joe rogan
You're overreacting.
tom segura
Yeah, you're overreacting because you're primed for it.
So I started and it was like, I said my first joke and she said, I go, you fucking cunt!
Shut up!
bert kreischer
And no one knows you have a history of that?
tom segura
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
People in the audience are like, don't talk to her like that!
tom segura
And I'm like, you don't know what she's doing!
And then it just went...
And then I'm like, give it up for this guy who wants to go to Montreal.
joe rogan
It was terrible.
tom segura
But then she ended up leaving.
Her friend came back in.
And while I'm on stage, she goes, did you call her a cunt in the show?
And I go, yeah.
She goes, that's my friend.
And I go, well then you're a cunt too.
She leaves and her son comes back.
Her son comes back looking for me.
He's like, can I talk to you for a second?
And I was like, alright.
And he looks serious too.
And he was like, did you call my mom a cunt?
And I go, which one is she?
unidentified
And he goes, this lady over here.
tom segura
So I go outside.
And I talk to...
Basically, the lady who was the friend.
So I go, she goes, what is going on?
I go, your friend has been disrupting, yelling out people, drunk, belligerent.
She goes, you call her this?
You call me that?
And I go, all right, well, I'm sorry I called you that.
But I'm not sorry I called your friend that.
She is what she is.
And she's like, you can be a nice person.
I see it in you.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
She got you with love.
tom segura
I was like, yeah, I go, get your friend out of here.
No one wants her here, okay?
And she was like, okay.
And then her son was like, thank you.
That was very disrespectful to my mother.
I was like, okay, man, we're good.
I got to go back and host this disaster that I created.
It was such a train wreck.
joe rogan
Well, some people just think that if you're saying something they disagree with, they don't think that they need to just wait it out.
They think they can stop you in the middle.
And the problem for me in particular, a lot of my bits start off one way, like they look like they're going to be way more outrageous than they are, and then I turn them around.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
But when I'm starting it off, and then you just attack, like you're fucking up the bit.
You don't even understand what I'm doing.
bert kreischer
It's the whole thing about freedom of speech in a weird way.
I had a joke about pedophilia, and I just started it, and this woman, who was a fan of mine and everything, she just goes, No!
unidentified
Stop!
bert kreischer
And now it looks like I'm pro-pedophilia.
I haven't gotten to the fucking punchline.
It just looks like I'm into fucking kids, because now I'm not allowed to finish it.
tom segura
No, those people shouldn't be allowed at shows because they're not even letting the art form take place.
You crafted something.
You're like, let it play out.
joe rogan
You can't do that.
I mean, they should just kick you out.
You're fucking up the whole experience for the whole crowd because a guy like Brian Holtzman would literally never be able to perform if the audience is filled with people like that.
So people like you and I who enjoy him, we would never be able to see him.
Because his whole act is saying outrageous shit like that.
That absolutely he doesn't really mean.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
But the funny thing is, the twists and the turns.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
Getting you to laugh at this stuff.
tom segura
The other funny thing is, is that he's supposed to act like he does mean it.
unidentified
Yes!
tom segura
Like, that's what's funny.
unidentified
Yes!
tom segura
It's like, that people are always like, you know, they get super upset about this thing.
And it's like, he said this.
And they're like, yeah, but don't you get that it's the performance?
joe rogan
I used to have this joke about the Second Coming Project.
Do you know what the Second Coming Project is?
When they first started fucking around with genes and cloning, there was a group of radical Christians that had this idea.
I think it might have been bullshit eventually, but what their idea was they were going to take some genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they were going to clone Jesus.
And so my bit was, what if you clone Jesus and it doesn't come out good?
Like, you know, they had to do Dolly the Sheep like 30 times until they got it right.
Like, what if you clone Jesus and he comes back handicapped?
And I had this whole fucked up thing about them following around this handicapped Jesus.
And instead of turning water into wine, he turns like dog shit into cookies.
And so this fucking lady, this lady goes, NEXT SUBJECT! And she's sitting in the front row.
So I did the bit to her.
I just looked her in the eyes and I kept doing it.
By the power of Christ I compel you!
It was a horrible bit.
We're talking like 1998 or some shit like that, right?
So it was clunky anyway.
But she's literally saying, next subject.
tom segura
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Which I'm never gonna, never gonna listen to you.
tom segura
No way!
joe rogan
That's like when you tell someone, shut the fuck up.
Why would they shut the fuck up?
That doesn't work.
You want them to shut the fuck up, but you have no understanding of the power of persuasion or the fact that other people aren't you.
You're not in control of other people.
So if you tell someone, shut the fuck up, that doesn't work.
This is just a poor way of you don't understand human beings.
You haven't thought this through.
You just know what you want, your selfish little head, and so you say it to them.
This is how most arguments and most fights get started, because people don't take into consideration at all the fact that they're communicating with another human being, has their own set of emotions, their own life, their own problems, their own ego.
tom segura
It's true.
There's a surefire way at any comedy show to hear more of the same topic.
It's going to be like, next...
joe rogan
Yeah, next subject.
unidentified
Fuck you.
bert kreischer
It's on the internet.
Yeah.
And that's what I... I almost...
Sometimes I preface it where I go, hey, you got...
Like, if you don't like what I'm about to say, because I have a couple things now that are a little, I think, too far, I go, just come talk to me after the show.
joe rogan
Don't even do that.
bert kreischer
Just don't interrupt things.
I've had people change my mind on bits.
Like, I had a bit that...
Worked on my podcast very well and then I tried it in the club and this black chick came up to me and she's like, it's a really fucked up joke.
And I was like, really?
tom segura
Was it super racist or something?
joe rogan
Was it super, super racist?
Like the black guy at CrossFit racist?
bert kreischer
I think it might have been worse.
tom segura
Really?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
I don't know.
It didn't bother me.
But the black chick in DC was like, I love the show, all of it.
I just think...
How many years ago is this?
This is a year ago.
And I was like, and part of me is like...
tom segura
Is it a bit that's in the special then?
bert kreischer
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Never made it?
bert kreischer
No.
And so I couldn't...
And it's almost like I wanted to tell it, but to figure it out, to work it out, but I didn't want to have to deal with all the fucking...
joe rogan
Steps.
bert kreischer
All the steps.
And I was like, I'm not going to die on that hill.
I don't really talk about race much in my act, so I'm not going to die on that hill for that bit.
joe rogan
You know what you've got to do with a bit like that?
You've got to look at it as if you're someone trying to deconstruct it.
Like you're someone who's trying to attack that bit.
bert kreischer
See, for me, a bit works best the very first time I do it.
And then every working bit I do around that to take it apart and figure out another way to approach it, that's where I start fucking it up.
It's like the first time I say it, I go, let's hope we can find that again.
joe rogan
I'm the polar opposite.
Occasionally I'll say something good the first time, but most of the time when I say something, it seems like a sprout or a seed.
How much time do you spend listening to recordings?
unidentified
A lot.
bert kreischer
A lot now.
After that last special, I did it obsessively.
And then I got into it.
I got into recording.
And now what I do is I will bid out.
If I don't have video, I like to have video because I think the video aspect really lets me know why things work.
I had this bit where I do my eyes a little different and it was killing and I saw it on video and I went, oh, I've got to make sure to do that.
But, um...
For me, it's almost like I'm always trying to chase to get back to that first time I told it.
joe rogan
Right, that feeling.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
I like to clip it out and then put chunks of like, alright, here's what the Starbucks bit is, here's what this is, and then look at the different ones and go, oh, why did that work better than this one?
But I've gotten really into editing videos and stuff, so it's a lot easier for me than it was when I first started.
Now I'm just like, oh, real quick, sync up audio, because I'll do audio and video, different tracks, sync them up, and then just clip them out, put them in folders.
joe rogan
Audio and video, what do you mean?
bert kreischer
I got a little nerdy about it.
I take a H4-6.
What is that?
tom segura
An audio recorder.
bert kreischer
It's a Zoom recorder.
Zoom H4-6, and then I'll take my camera, put it in the back, if I can, or I'll have the club run video.
But I like to sync up clean audio and clean video.
That way, if I do have something fun, like Hannibal got on stage with me the other night, and I was like, ah, cool, I got all this shit.
That's I could definitely put online if I'm gonna want to do that to Hannibal I'd have to run it by him first, but I got real clean audio of it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting.
So you are doing it through the soundboard?
bert kreischer
No, I do it through the h4-6 is like the best it's is and I have a Basically a surround sound mic on that which ones are called again h4-6.
It's bigger h4-6 zoom zoom h4-6 right am I right on that or is it just the h6?
Oh, it's the H6. It's the H6. The other one's the H4N. And it's Zoom?
unidentified
Zoom H6. Audio recorder?
joe rogan
And how big is that thing?
bert kreischer
It's about the size of this box.
tom segura
It's like a fucking taser.
bert kreischer
But they make a zoom that's smaller that I take with me now that fits in my pocket.
It's like the size of a lighter that's really great.
joe rogan
Yeah, pull that up.
Let me see what that looks like.
bert kreischer
Pull up all the zoom.
joe rogan
What I like about doing it on my phone, though, is that I have them always with me all the time.
tom segura
Yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
And then I sync it up in my car on the way to the gig.
tom segura
That's what I did the other night, too.
Listen on the way there.
joe rogan
It fucking helps.
unidentified
Giant.
tom segura
On the way out, you go like that.
Because I like the puzzle-solving aspect of putting together sets.
You know what I mean?
When you go like, man, why does this...
When I do it fourth, it kills.
But if I do it fifth, it's garbage.
Yeah.
You try to figure out, well, maybe this needs to be punched up, maybe this should move here.
I like doing that.
I like figuring that out.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's always those mystery punchlines that you didn't think were going to be a punchline and it crushes.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
You're like, what the fuck is, what are you laughing at?
I don't get it.
Like, what happened there?
bert kreischer
Dude, the time that you guys were in the back of the room and I said, I used to think Anne Frank and Helen Keller were the same person.
And I didn't think that was funny at all.
And you're like, please tell me that's a bit.
And I was like, no.
joe rogan
That was at Stand Up On The Spot.
bert kreischer
Stand Up On The Spot.
That Stand Up On The Spot's the most useful fucking thing ever.
joe rogan
Super.
Okay, so which one is it?
bert kreischer
I've got the H6, I've got the H4N, and then the H1N is the one I take with me.
joe rogan
The H6 is the larger one that's like a taser-looking thing.
And then which is the one you take with you?
bert kreischer
The tiny one?
joe rogan
The H1. And that's really little?
Yeah.
What's the comparison in the sound between the H1N and the H6? A big jump, in my opinion.
Yeah?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Should be the same.
Jamie?
unidentified
Should be the same.
joe rogan
How so?
jamie vernon
It should be the same microphones.
The H6 is just going to allow you to do six tracks.
unidentified
That's what the six is.
joe rogan
It allows you to do six inputs.
jamie vernon
This is probably just one track or maybe it's two because it's left and right.
joe rogan
That's why there's two microphones.
Oh, interesting.
bert kreischer
That one's a great...
I take that with me, and it shows you how much time you have.
You put a 64 gigabyte mini SD card in, and you get like 118 hours of recording.
unidentified
How's the battery?
joe rogan
Also, if you do...
bert kreischer
I go through batteries pretty quick, but if you use lithium batteries, it's not that bad.
joe rogan
So if you do a mini SD card, you could take that mini SD card and put it...
Like, I just got an Android phone.
I got this Galaxy Note 9. And it has, it takes up to one terabyte of storage.
bert kreischer
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Look how pretty.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at the stars.
bert kreischer
Is that new?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And it takes an SD card?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah, it takes an SD card.
It takes up to one terabyte of storage.
It's fucking phenomenal.
tom segura
Yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
It's phenomenal.
It used to be that they were, like, way inferior to iPhones.
It's not the case anymore.
In fact, I think, like, look how big that screen is.
Look how pretty.
bert kreischer
Yeah, that's great.
unidentified
Look how pretty.
Look how pretty.
tom segura
Who makes that?
joe rogan
Samsung.
The fingerprint reader is fucking instant, and it has a pen where you can write on the lock screen.
So on the lock screen, you can take notes and write on the screen.
bert kreischer
I haven't written in my joke book in forever, I feel like.
unidentified
Look at that.
Whoa!
joe rogan
You're right on the locksmith.
tom segura
Yeah, you sure can.
joe rogan
And then you save those to your notes.
tom segura
Bam.
That's really cool.
joe rogan
And then this also works as a remote control.
So if you're playing music, if you're playing music on this thing, while you're playing music, this will start and stop your music.
It's fucking phenomenal.
tom segura
Are you just going to stomp out your iPhone right now?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I'm trying to figure out what to do.
tom segura
I've always had that.
bert kreischer
Do you have both numbers go to that same phone?
joe rogan
No, but the other thing about the new iPhone that Jamie was telling me is that you can have two different phone numbers.
Were you telling me that?
No, Brian was.
You could have two different phone numbers on the new iPhone.
tom segura
On the new one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It takes like a second card.
So say like if you have a business line and a home line, and then you take that SIM card out for the business line, or you disable the business line, and you're like, fuck you!
So say like if you have a phone that only like your best friends your wife Have and then the next is like agents and other bullshit.
tom segura
Yeah, but are you just set up a whole Decoy number for like people you don't want to have your number.
joe rogan
That's good.
Yeah, but you can also do something like that with what is that thing?
there's a Google Voice, right?
Doesn't Google Voice have some shit like that?
jamie vernon
Yeah, you can have that rerouted to your phone number and have like a business line kind of thing.
joe rogan
Look, look at this.
This thing...
It works as a remote control, so check this out.
I'll crank it up.
unidentified
You can take pictures with it too, right?
Yep.
tom segura
So you're using that pen?
joe rogan
Yeah, watch.
See that?
I'll press it.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Box kind of patsy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on.
bert kreischer
How many of those pens do you get?
Like 10?
joe rogan
No, it sticks right in here.
Fits in there.
Bang.
tom segura
That's perfect.
joe rogan
And it charges.
It's Bluetooth.
bert kreischer
Nice.
joe rogan
Syncs up to your phone.
bert kreischer
Maybe I'll get one of those as a burner phone.
joe rogan
Well, it's $1,000.
You wouldn't really want it as a burner phone.
tom segura
It's kind of a primary phone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm leaning towards it as my main phone.
I really am.
I mean, I'm going to see.
The thing about the walled garden of iPhones is you just get used to that ecosystem.
And right now, my zone is all on my iPhone.
This thing is still sweaty.
Touch it if you want.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I want to drink something and see if I can get that murdered sweat inside me.
joe rogan
You just got to think like that.
You just got to think that someone's coming after someone you love.
tom segura
So wait, let's talk about...
So for the month...
bert kreischer
That's me!
tom segura
He's gonna think about himself.
joe rogan
He's gonna think of that.
He's gonna think of rage.
I think of killing coyotes with my bare hands.
I think of all kinds of crazy shit.
bert kreischer
I'll tell you what, I'm not even bugging around.
I'm going to find my inner voice that speaks to me when I need that explosivity.
joe rogan
He's gonna find your dark place.
tom segura
That's easy access for me, man.
joe rogan
It doesn't take much.
Someone said, why is it so difficult for Tom for Sober October?
He should take time off of thinking about murdering baristas.
If you guys don't know, him and his wife have been doing this thing where...
You guys had, like, if you murdered somebody, would you turn me into the cops?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I was blown away by her answer.
tom segura
She was like, 100%.
I was like, are you out of your fucking mind?
She goes, well, was it an accident?
I'm like, no, I just told you that I killed somebody.
And I got the body in the trunk and no one knows.
She's like, you're a psycho.
I don't know what you're going to do.
You're going to kill me next.
I'm like, why would I kill you next?
She's like, but why'd you kill this guy?
I'm like, because he pissed me off.
It's like, you know, I killed somebody that I got.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm like, I'm sorry.
You fucked up just like you called that lady a cunt.
tom segura
Right!
joe rogan
Got out of hand.
Shouldn't have to go to jail forever.
tom segura
You're my fucking ace, right?
You're not going to turn me in.
She's like, oh no, you're unpredictable.
joe rogan
She's your ride or die.
tom segura
That's what I thought.
bert kreischer
Don't worry, I'm your ride or die.
You call me if you kill someone.
I've got the shovel ready.
I'm taking it to the next level.
If you come over with a body in the trunk, and you go, I've got a body in the trunk.
I get the shovel, and you come out, and the body starts to get up out of the trunk, I'll hit him with the shovel and make sure he's dead.
tom segura
That's what's up, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
That was a close call.
tom segura
Where are we going?
Where are we going to go?
bert kreischer
Oh, do you know how much fun we'd have figuring out a place to go bury a body?
tom segura
Yeah, it'd be hard.
joe rogan
I can take you guys places.
tom segura
See, this is a conversation I wanted with her.
bert kreischer
Yeah, why wouldn't she do this?
tom segura
I don't know, man.
She's like, I got babies now.
unidentified
I fucking...
tom segura
Like, alright, whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Anyways, I was just telling her, she was like, why did you kill the guy?
I was like, alright, let's just hypothetically say.
bert kreischer
Why does that matter?
We talked about that on the ride to the desert.
joe rogan
Maybe the guy called you a cunt, so I had to kill him.
tom segura
I killed the guy I called my cunt.
I told her he fucked up my coffee order.
joe rogan
I called her a cunt.
tom segura
Yeah, that's definitely excusable.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
tom segura
She said if somebody hurt the family or something, she was like, then it's 100% fair.
She goes, but if you're laying in wait, just premeditated, hanging out, stalking people, she goes, Dad, I gotta turn you in on it.
I'm like, I still think that's bullshit.
You're my wife.
Why the fuck are you ratting on me?
bert kreischer
My wife would do the killing for me.
If someone broke into our house, no questions asked.
I already know.
joe rogan
Your wife would gun somebody down.
bert kreischer
I'd give her the gun and go.
tom segura
Your wife, you think you tell her?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
But she'd be like, alright, you gotta go handle this.
joe rogan
She'd be like, I knew it was coming.
unidentified
Maritime!
Alright, guys.
bert kreischer
We've been prepping for this.
joe rogan
As long as you're nice to the kids.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, man.
What's crazy is that used to be super normal to kill people.
tom segura
You mean like in human history?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
bert kreischer
200 years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Super normal.
bert kreischer
We had a president that killed somebody.
Oh yeah, in a duel.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Can you imagine how normal, though, where it wouldn't even be worth bringing up that you killed somebody that day?
I mean, if you go back far enough, it's like, yeah, people are just stabbed and there's battles.
bert kreischer
Do you think they had their Me Too movement of going like, hey, we've got to stop killing people, man?
joe rogan
Yeah, when do people just totally stop killing people?
bert kreischer
There had to be a movement where people were like, My dad was murdered, and no one cares.
And your dad was murdered.
He's like, yeah, that kind of hurt me, too.
He's like, yeah, this fucking sucks, man.
tom segura
Is it like the Dark Ages, like, coming out of that?
bert kreischer
Oh, no, no, no.
Dark Ages is where you had no free will.
When I watch, when that Game of Thrones, when they cut his dick off in Game of Thrones, it clicked with the part of me where I went, helplessness.
The idea that you can't go, this isn't fair, you're not allowed to do that.
That helplessness, it gave me a panic attack.
joe rogan
Think about that when you're on the treadmill, son.
unidentified
Mm.
bert kreischer
Them cutting my dick off.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
Cutting anybody's dick off.
Just think of that feeling.
Just think of those kind of people out there.
bert kreischer
Like helplessness.
joe rogan
Right, and if you're tired, you can't get away.
bert kreischer
When they bound, I watched the Marco Polo thing, and when they bound that little girl's feet.
joe rogan
Is that the Netflix show?
bert kreischer
Yeah, it was great.
joe rogan
I didn't watch that.
I watched like one or two episodes.
It seemed okay.
bert kreischer
It was great.
joe rogan
Was it good?
bert kreischer
Well, I like history.
I like anything history.
That's why I used to have on Dan.
joe rogan
Dan Carlin?
bert kreischer
Dude, I love history.
And so, Marco Polo really knew Genghis Khan, apparently.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And so...
joe rogan
I think he knew Genghis Khan's son.
I think it's Kublai Khan.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, it's Kublai Khan.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I like history.
I'm a stickler for details, though.
joe rogan
Well, the Khans, you know, the reign was a long time.
I mean, during Genghis Khan's lifetime, they estimated that he killed and his people killed 10% of the world's population.
unidentified
God!
joe rogan
They killed so many people, they changed the carbon footprint of the world.
They literally changed how many people were burning things.
They literally changed it in core samples.
Like when you do a core sample on the earth, the carbon footprint of human beings is less while he was alive because he killed one out of ten human beings that lived.
bert kreischer
So he was eco-friendly for what he did?
joe rogan
Yes.
He was very green.
bert kreischer
Holy shit.
joe rogan
That's the weird thing that Dan Carlin goes over in his Wrath of the Khan series, which is like one of the greatest history series of all time.
I can't recommend it enough.
bert kreischer
It's a life changer.
I wish I could go back to the day I found it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And it was like seven part series or whatever, and I'd play it, lay in bed, fall asleep, wake up, and have to go find out where I left off.
joe rogan
So good.
bert kreischer
And I'd have dreams of being a Khan.
I remember having a dream of learning how to shoot a pigeon in the air.
We had to wait for all four hoofs off the ground?
I had a dream because I was listening to it sleeping.
Dude, I had the most...
I'm sorry, keep going.
joe rogan
No, go ahead.
bert kreischer
I had the most active...
What is it when you dream and you're awake?
joe rogan
Lucid.
bert kreischer
I had the most lucid fucking dream last night.
The most lucid dream.
I walked into this closet...
And I was on all fours, and I go, I'm not awake.
I think I'm dreaming.
And I went, I am dreaming.
I said, interesting.
And I sat crisscross applesauce, and I said, I want a beautiful woman to walk in the closet.
And a beautiful woman walked in the closet, and I went, I think I'm going to go down on her.
And I was like, yeah, this is a dream.
There's no cheating.
My wife's in Vietnam.
Let's go down on her.
I started going down on her, and I was like...
Where's this leading?
I think I'm going to fuck her.
I said, I should fuck her.
And then I was like, oh, yeah, we're fucking her.
And then I woke up.
I went, God damn it.
I wanted to stay back in it.
joe rogan
Should have went right to fucking.
All that eating pussy just wasted time.
bert kreischer
She had the biggest clit.
joe rogan
How big?
Like a 10-inch dick.
unidentified
No!
bert kreischer
Like a knuckle!
joe rogan
Like a big black 10-inch dick.
tom segura
You get stuck in your throat?
unidentified
When she came, I almost drowned.
joe rogan
What is it?
bert kreischer
What were you saying about the Dan Carlin thing?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
bert kreischer
Sorry.
joe rogan
It's okay.
tom segura
You're gonna access your rage from one of those moments.
joe rogan
Yeah, access your rage thinking about how you couldn't fuck her and you sucked her dick.
There's a lot of rage there.
tom segura
That's super upsetting.
joe rogan
I mean, I used to do little tricks like that to get myself to work out harder.
That's why I have those in my head.
I just used to always feel like If the worst case scenario happened and you needed energy, how tired are you really?
Are you really tired?
Are you tired like, oh, I'm tired.
I just need to stop.
Or are you tired like, I can't survive right now.
Or are you tired like, someone I love dearly is in trouble and I can't help them.
How tired are you?
tom segura
Yeah, that's different levels of tired for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm going to put those things up every day, motherfucker.
You're going to see those images of these workouts every day.
And I'm doing two a day.
bert kreischer
You're doing two workouts a day?
joe rogan
Two a day like that.
bert kreischer
Yeah, me too.
I already did mine today.
I walked three miles.
On that bullshit fucking treadmill that we were talking about.
joe rogan
Andy Stump's treadmill?
You don't like that?
bert kreischer
Dude, it just is not enjoyable.
joe rogan
Because it's hard.
bert kreischer
It's hard as fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's the whole idea behind it.
It's a difficult trip.
tom segura
We are going for point total, right?
joe rogan
That's the move, right?
tom segura
Well, I mean, there was two.
joe rogan
What are the other things?
tom segura
The initial thought I had was, like, last year, it was 15 90-minute hot yoga classes.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
So the idea was...
joe rogan
I'm going to do those, too.
tom segura
Okay.
Well, the idea for that was that it was difficult but attainable, right?
And you had to be disciplined to do it.
So now you're going to do two workouts a day and 15 minutes?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm going to count the yoga as one.
tom segura
As one, okay.
joe rogan
As one of the workouts a day.
tom segura
And then another hardcore one.
joe rogan
I'm doing the 15 hot yoga classes on top of all the other shit.
What is this number, the 1005?
tom segura
That's your calories burned.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
bert kreischer
That's what I said when you walked in.
I've never once burned a thousand calories in a workout.
That's a lot of fucking calories.
tom segura
Yeah, it is a lot.
joe rogan
What's a normal workout burn?
tom segura
I mean, if you're doing an intense one.
joe rogan
Oh.
tom segura
I mean, here, I'll show you.
I got a bunch of them locked in here.
joe rogan
It says 98% of my heart rate max.
unidentified
It's going to adjust.
tom segura
It's going to adjust.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's 175. Yeah, it's going to adjust.
I think it's because I'm an old fuck.
It just thinks my heart rate doesn't go that high anymore.
It doesn't know I'm on the juice.
unidentified
The number starts.
jamie vernon
It says it's 220 minus your age is your max heart rate zone or something like that.
joe rogan
Well, that's not real.
jamie vernon
So, yeah, the older you are, the lower your max is.
joe rogan
Well, it's broken.
The shit don't work, right?
I should be dead.
tom segura
I think that's just where it should be.
jamie vernon
I don't think that's, like, the max you're at.
tom segura
All right, I did a workout a couple days ago, 63 minutes, 72% effort throughout, 864 calories burned.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
bert kreischer
864?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good workout.
tom segura
Yeah.
And then this one...
joe rogan
That was a 62-minute workout?
Is that what you said?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
This was a 93-minute workout.
I burned 1,300 calories.
unidentified
Woo!
tom segura
Is this real?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You could do that.
tom segura
You could do that.
joe rogan
But you'd have to go hog.
Whole hog.
tom segura
This was kickboxing.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You did a 90-minute kickboxing workout?
tom segura
Well, no.
We did kickboxing for part of it.
Oh.
joe rogan
So you've got a trainer now.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, look at you.
Mr. Tommy Moneybags.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Couple of Netflix specials, sell out a few theaters.
tom segura
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
He's not saying he's doing more than selling out theaters.
His pre-sale sold out everything.
joe rogan
Selling out everything, huh?
When you're moving to arenas, fella?
tom segura
Hey, speaking of arenas...
How was Toronto?
joe rogan
Fucking insane.
bert kreischer
What is it like when you're doing 10,000 people?
joe rogan
10,600 people at the Scotiabank Arena.
It was the Air Canada Center.
The UFC's back there in December.
tom segura
Isn't that crazy that you're going to be like, oh, one time I was here alone talking.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
tom segura
And then you see it filled for events like that.
I mean, that's where the fucking Raptors play.
joe rogan
It's so ridiculous.
It doesn't seem real.
But I gotta say, the show felt like as intimate as a set at the store.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
I'm not bullshitting.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was fucking nuts.
bert kreischer
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was fucking easy peasy.
It was fun.
I mean, it was literally like any other set.
I was nervous that I wasn't nervous.
I was nervous that I was...
I mean, I did a lot of sets leading up to it, like when I did...
I constantly do sets, but I did like...
I did four sets Thursday night.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did the Ice House Wednesday, so I did an hour-plus at the Ice House.
I did three sets on...
On Tuesday night.
Yeah, I mean that's that's I think that's the key is you just got to do Yeah, you have to just do so many that you're you're just Just like working out you can't have any doubt you got to be just in shape I just sent you a video.
tom segura
This is this is shows you how ridiculous the crowd looked But when you're but you're also getting used to arenas because you've done a few now.
joe rogan
It's weird.
bert kreischer
This is your fourth arena fourth.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe fifth I did I did Columbus Vancouver I did Columbus.
I did Kansas City.
Kansas City was weird because it was outside.
That was weird.
tom segura
That's like an amphitheater, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Crazy.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I saw that.
joe rogan
But this was the biggest one.
This one was bananas.
tom segura
You're wild, man.
bert kreischer
I'm stressing, Tom and I are doing tours at the exact same time next year, and I'm stressing doing theaters, 1200 in the theater, going like, fuck it.
How do you, like...
joe rogan
It gets normal, man, after a while.
It gets normal.
Scoot ahead just a couple of seconds and you can see it when I get on stage.
Like, watch when they turn the lights on.
This is what's really strange.
When you get to look out over the entire audience.
tom segura
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
That's fucking ridiculous.
tom segura
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's madness.
tom segura
That is...
That's wild, man.
joe rogan
Dude, that...
And there's an upper deck.
That...
It doesn't seem real and it just happened.
tom segura
And you did this and the same night Burr did the forum.
unidentified
20,000.
joe rogan
No, the forum's not 20,000.
The forum's 9,000.
The Western Forum?
tom segura
The Great Western Forum.
I don't know what it is.
bert kreischer
The thing online said it was 20,000 people.
joe rogan
I think they're wrong because Dean Del Rey said it was 9,000.
bert kreischer
Okay.
joe rogan
I think they just made a mistake.
But it's huge.
Either way.
tom segura
It's huge.
bert kreischer
So I was thinking last night, and I know that you're not like this.
I know you're a little bit like this, but to compare different times of comedy, right?
And compare people.
I know you don't like comparing people, but has there ever been a time in comedy where this many acts were selling arenas, this many acts were selling theaters, and this many acts were selling out clubs?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
Well, Burr's sold out Madison Square Garden, which is way bigger than that.
Madison Square Garden, I think, is 18,000.
tom segura
That's true.
joe rogan
How about this?
Sebastian is ready to sell four.
He's already sold out three.
They opened up a fourth show at Madison Square Garden.
Just stop and think about that.
That's almost 80,000 people.
tom segura
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
That's like a fucking NFL game.
Stadium.
bert kreischer
Sebastian's murdering it.
Just look at theater comics.
Just legit selling multiple theater shows.
Eliza, D'Elia, you can name any of you.
You go down the list.
Aziz.
There's so many comics selling theaters that I don't think there's ever been a time...
joe rogan
No.
There's never been a time like this.
Never.
There's never been a time when this many comics are selling out multiple thousand seat places.
And then there's the big...
First of all, there's Kevin Hart, who's the biggest of the big.
He sells out 50,000.
bert kreischer
Cat Williams is actually a lot bigger than he is.
joe rogan
Cat Williams?
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
I watched it on The Breakfast Club.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
You didn't see Cat Williams just slam him?
joe rogan
I don't pay attention to that shit.
bert kreischer
That was pretty fun.
I like Cat.
I like Kevin, too.
joe rogan
I like Cat, too, but he's...
He's eccentric at best.
tom segura
No, Kevin's the biggest monster.
bert kreischer
Kevin's the biggest.
joe rogan
He's the biggest monster.
He can sell 50,000.
He sold 50,000 in Philadelphia when he did his special.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's only one of him.
But you know who's real close to him that people forget about is Larry the Cable Guy.
Because Larry the Cable Guy was selling out football stadiums because Josh Wolfe was opening for him and Josh Wolfe took a picture and showed it to me.
And he goes, dude, this was me on stage opening up for Larry the Cable Guy.
And you're like...
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But people don't think about, first of all, Larry the Cable Guy is like the most humble, low-key.
tom segura
Yeah, plus he's doing that in like the Heartland, so people will just dismiss it because it's not like an L.A. show or a New York show.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
So those two guys, I think Kevin Hart is numero uno.
He's number one.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then there's Chappelle could basically do anything.
He sells out Master's Square Garden.
bert kreischer
He sold out the fucking Forum.
Not the Forum.
The Hollywood Bowl.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's huge.
What is that, $20,000?
tom segura
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's like $20,000.
tom segura
He has amphitheater offers, like left and right.
And then they'll probably be like, yeah, you do a show.
You'll get like $700,000.
He'll be like, I'm going to do the belly room.
And then he just goes and does that.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Because he likes it.
He likes the intimate shows.
joe rogan
Well, he's also...
I hate to use a term like this, but he's a legitimate artist.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just trying to do better work, do better comedy, and always evolve it.
He's one of the rare guys that could do a special, and then the next week we'll have a new hour.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And somehow or another it works.
tom segura
It just comes out of him.
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, he's just supremely dedicated, you know?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
So there's him.
There's Chris Rock.
He can still sell out pretty big places.
If Louie came back, I think he could sell out giant places.
tom segura
Giant.
joe rogan
Burr sells out everywhere he wants to.
Burr could sell out...
He sold out Boston Garden, which is like $18,000.
tom segura
Yeah.
Wells Fargo Center in Philly.
joe rogan
How big is that?
tom segura
$15,000.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he could sell out all those places.
bert kreischer
It's really hard to put in perspective, and I think you guys can understand this, but I mean...
You were selling out clubs, what, like, 17 years ago were you just doing clubs?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
bert kreischer
But when you were selling out clubs, when you were selling out just clubs, that's an achievement in this business.
I mean, to sell out weekends and ad shows is a legit achievement.
unidentified
Definitely.
bert kreischer
But it's so undermined when you go in and you do San Jose or you do whatever and you sell out everything and then go, oh my god, like, holy shit.
The possibilities are endless.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's the internet.
That's what it is.
There's this network of comics now that everybody knows about.
If you know about Bill, you know about Joey Diaz, you know about you, you know about you.
It's like there's this thing going on now where everyone's sort of connected.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's never existed before.
And then a lot of these people, not Sebastian, he's one of the rare ones that doesn't, but most of these people have podcasts.
Kevin Hart doesn't, obviously, but Kevin Hart has major movies.
tom segura
Sebastian actually does one.
joe rogan
He does a podcast?
bert kreischer
Yeah, with Pete Correale.
tom segura
With Pete Correale, yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't even know.
tom segura
But I don't think he can get to it weekly, but they definitely put it out.
bert kreischer
It's on SiriusXM.
I think he'd do it specifically for SiriusXM right now.
joe rogan
Just does it whenever he can get to it.
tom segura
I think so.
bert kreischer
Yeah, man.
You've been in this the longest of the three of us, but have you ever known a time in comedy when comics were more friendly?
It seems like everyone's on the same team.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is a completely different thing.
I've talked about this before.
It's because I really believe it's because the internet and also because there's no things we're fighting for anymore like tonight show spots Or stupid shit like that, or sitcom auditions.
But in the past, it was like there was three channels, and there was The Tonight Show and The Letterman Show, and everybody wanted to host The Tonight Show, but Jay Leno was hosting it forever, or Johnny Carson before him.
And there was this competition between comics where they were just cutthroat.
There's not that anymore.
Now, instead, like radio shows, right?
Radio shows always shit on the other radio shows.
tom segura
Always.
joe rogan
They always.
The other morning shows in town, they shit on them.
It was all shitting on everybody.
Fuck them.
Like Howard Stern was notorious for it.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
We do the opposite.
bert kreischer
They'd start wars for ratings.
joe rogan
Yeah, but we do the opposite.
We all have successful podcasts, but we all have each other on our podcast.
We're all super friendly about it.
We all promote each other's specials.
We all hang out together.
There's a camaraderie amongst comedians now.
It used to be like there might be some camaraderie amongst a couple, but it would always go bad.
There was never a bunch of real headliners hanging out together like they are now.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I mean, even the simplest things, like D'Lea does something funny, and I'll just put her, I'll talk about it on my open tabs, and get like half a million views.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
And then you just go like, I mean, D'Lea's might be one of my favorite people to watch these days, because I just watch his Instagram and go, what's he doing today?
joe rogan
He's ridiculous.
bert kreischer
I can totally talk about it on my open tabs and just share it with everyone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And just go, oh great, Brandon Schaub.
Dude, it's been funny shit.
joe rogan
Did you guys see Dean Del Rey sing?
tom segura
Yeah, I saw it because you posted it.
joe rogan
Put that up.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's got...
Okay, so I put that on my Instagram.
This is another good example.
I put that on my Instagram and it's got like 700,000 views.
tom segura
He can really sing.
unidentified
Fuck.
bert kreischer
Yes, he can.
tom segura
Yeah, he can.
joe rogan
Like, he can really sing like, what?
Like, wait a minute.
I didn't know you could do that.
Yeah.
It's got...
Yeah.
70,000.
unidentified
One I never want.
Here it comes, 11.
Woo, it's a steal from shit.
And exactly pretty.
And exactly small.
One, two, three, four, fifty-six.
You can see it's a guy alive.
Never want.
Never want. Never want.
Never want.
Look at him go.
joe rogan
Look how happy he looks.
tom segura
Dean's living his best life, man.
joe rogan
Look at him I told him I go Send me the whole fucking video man I go, you're a fucking murderer, man.
bert kreischer
He's an inspiration, man.
He did Conan the night I did Conan, and he was so excited, and it was so amazing to see Burr showed up.
Everyone was in the back of the room, and he came off.
He was like, that's my first late night.
And I think Dean's 50...
tom segura
Yeah, you gotta respect it, dude.
He started stand-up like...
joe rogan
46 or something like that?
Something like that.
tom segura
It's not common to stick with it and keep getting better at it.
bert kreischer
It was so cool to be on the end of Conan with him, Maren, me, Maren, and Dean.
Just three comics.
And that's booking.
There's no celebrity.
It's just three comics.
And Dean's the only one that did stand-up.
It was just like...
Oh fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I saw someone said it was it felt like the green room at the main room in the Comedy Store.
bert kreischer
Yeah, and Burr is living, let me tell you something, Bill Burr is living his best fucking life right now.
He does these, when he does The Garden, or when he does The Forum, they come in with the goddamn Comedy Jam and set up a thing, and they do a full concert to an empty venue before the show.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just do it for themselves.
tom segura
Yeah, that's awesome.
bert kreischer
They just want to play The Forum.
joe rogan
Bill told me he played from 2 to 6.30.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just played all day.
He said, I was exhausted.
He was, I was worried I was too tired to do this show.
tom segura
Hilarious.
But that's how much fun he's having doing it.
bert kreischer
Dude, what would you do?
If you did, like, would you set up a football game and play football?
joe rogan
Yeah, what would you do?
tom segura
Man, I mean, I would watch one.
I would just invite people to come watch a game.
That'd be fun.
joe rogan
I mean, he's fucking flying helicopters.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Playing drums.
I mean, yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, no, he's...
joe rogan
No, this is an interesting time.
But this is also, it shows you that Because of all this camaraderie and that everybody's doing really well, it shows you that that's possible, that the old way of looking at things is the wrong way.
That's a selfish, famine-thinking way.
It's the wrong way.
tom segura
I would hire a DJ to bring me out to an event like that, though, if I was doing an arena.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Doesn't Russell do that?
tom segura
He does that.
I think Chappelle does that.
bert kreischer
Did you see Russell brought out MC Shan out on stage to all his white audience?
And he freestyled, these are the breaks.
And all the white people just sat there staring at Russell.
And Russell got up and was like, are you fucking kidding me?
tom segura
He brings like old school legends everywhere.
joe rogan
Well, he'll do a gig and then after a gig he'll go to a club and DJ. Yeah, he will.
tom segura
He can actually DJ, too.
joe rogan
Like, real DJ. He can really DJ. With records and scratching and all that stuff.
tom segura
He knows his shit, man.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He gets mad at those electronic music guys who call themselves DJs.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
That's not a DJ. That's not a DJ. He goes back, like, you've got to be able to get vinyl, dig through the crates, flip it around.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
No, he knows his stuff, man.
He really does.
joe rogan
Well, he's another one that sells out.
He's at that other place, that place that I was at in November.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's at the Scotiabank Arena.
tom segura
Oh yeah, he's done that a bunch, man.
That's his hometown.
joe rogan
Selling out giant places.
There's so much of that going on right now.
tom segura
It's like his seventh time doing that, too.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, at least.
bert kreischer
It's overwhelming, man.
It really is.
You know what it is?
I had a guy say to me one time, and I think this is what it is.
I had a guy come up to me at West Palm.
I was doing New Year's Eve.
Drunk as fuck.
Both of us, probably.
We're both shirtless.
I'm doing the meet and greet.
He goes, I need to talk to you for like two minutes.
joe rogan
Did you think you wanted to fuck you?
bert kreischer
No, I get this a lot.
tom segura
That's where I go, I'm good, thanks.
bert kreischer
I'm Johnny, meet and greet.
And so I go, they're like, sir, you got to move along.
I'll give them two minutes.
And he's like, dude, I'm a fan.
Do you know what that means?
I was like, yeah, yeah.
And he goes, no, no, no, no.
You're not listening to me.
When you do well, I get happy.
He's like, it makes me happy to see good things happen to you.
I will always be a fan.
I'll always support you.
And as soon as he said that, I thought, it sounds super silly, but...
Before I met you, I was a fan.
When the Carlos stuff went down, I got behind your back and I was like, I'm a fan of Joe's.
I like what he's doing.
He's standing up for me.
And in a weird way, being a fan of something is so fucking fun when you become a fan.
And I think what podcasts have done is allowed you to become intimate with your fans and they support you in a way like people go out and they see a video of Dean singing and they go, oh yeah, I'm happy...
We're all happy for him.
When you do 10,000 seats, I think there are people going, fuck yeah, man.
My guy's winning.
Does that make sense?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I know what you're saying.
Yeah.
unidentified
I think it's cool.
joe rogan
And we're fans of each other, too.
That's big, too.
Also, people realize, hey, you can be a fan of someone.
It doesn't mean that somehow or another you're a lesser person.
You know what I mean?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I'm sure Bill Burr is a fan of Chappelle.
I'm sure Chappelle's a fan of Chris Rock.
Like, people are fans of other people's art.
tom segura
Oh, totally.
joe rogan
Whereas, I think in the past, that wasn't the case.
bert kreischer
It was not.
tom segura
It was about separate camps.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
It was like, I'm in this, if you're on that side, which is so dumb.
joe rogan
So dumb.
tom segura
Because you can also, it's like, you know, you can like one type of music the most, but still enjoy other music.
Don't you think that?
joe rogan
I think that when the internet opened up all these possibilities, that's when it happened, though.
tom segura
Probably.
joe rogan
It seems like it to me.
bert kreischer
I think it was podcasting.
Yes.
Podcasting, I guess that is the internet.
I'm sorry, I was thinking of YouTube for some reason.
But can you imagine Dice and Kinison?
joe rogan
They hated each other.
bert kreischer
They hated each other.
That was the way it worked.
joe rogan
That was the bullet hole at the store, the belly room store.
That's because Sam Kinison brought a gun and shot the fucking sign to let Dice know that he was going to fucking shoot him.
He didn't just pull out a gun.
He pulled out a gun and shot a fucking sign.
tom segura
That's really crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just fixed it a few years ago.
I was mad when they fixed it.
tom segura
Yeah, they should have left.
Why would you fix that?
That's really crazy, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
God, I gotta start doing that to you, Bert.
Just shooting things.
Pulling guns out.
Pulling guns out on people.
Where's Bert's name?
Shoot it and shoot the sign.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I think those guys were doing coke, too, and we smoked pot.
tom segura
That's true.
It's way different.
It's way different.
That might be the key ingredient to this whole thing.
joe rogan
You smoke pot, you want to hug people.
You do coke, you're like, you want to fight, bro?
I'll fuck you up.
I'll hold you down.
I'll fuck your mouth.
I'll fuck your mother.
I'll fuck your mother's mother.
unidentified
I'll dig up her mother and fuck her bones.
joe rogan
And then I'll start a business!
It's also, everyone was scratching and clawing.
There wasn't a lot of opportunities.
I think it's the pot, too, though.
I think it's guys like Diaz and Ari and you and me, there's a different sensibility.
There's a more generous sensibility.
bert kreischer
I think so.
joe rogan
I mean, I think it's everything.
For me, I'm big on generosity, and I'm big on support.
I think you have to do that with people around you.
tom segura
It does become contagious, too.
When you have it done to you, you want to do it for other people, for sure.
joe rogan
It's giant.
Yeah.
Help out opening acts.
Help out other comics.
And as you rise up, they'll do the same.
They'll do the same for the other guys.
And you see them doing that, they'll start taking guys with them on the road.
tom segura
Spread it around.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look, man, who do we like more than comics?
And who do you want to hang out with more than comedians?
We're the most fun for us to hang out with.
We could say ridiculous shit and then we'll laugh at it.
We won't like, well, I don't know why you said that, Tom.
You shouldn't have called that lady a cunt.
Especially not her friend.
And then, you know, I think you owe her son an apology.
I mean, if I was her son, I would have clocked you.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
People wouldn't think it's funny.
tom segura
Of course.
joe rogan
If you were working at Xerox and you said all that, people would, you know, they'd bring you into your HR. You're a liability.
tom segura
We've got to let you go.
We've got to let you go.
It's true.
I know.
And those are the worst people to, like, get stuck at a dinner with or something.
You know, you're like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You just got to torture them.
tom segura
Yeah, it's the worst.
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to feel terrible when I was around those people.
I used to feel like there was something wrong with me.
tom segura
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Real stuck-up, super conservative people.
I would just think, oh, there's something wrong with me.
Why do I think this way?
Why do I always want to say the inappropriate thing?
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
It's like a muscle twitch.
You go, just see how far you can make it happen.
tom segura
Of course!
You start talking, and then you're like...
bert kreischer
That can be an education in a foot race.
tom segura
You're like, what?
bert kreischer
You hurt me.
Put your money where you mouth is, asshole.
tom segura
Oh my god.
And then you just see eyes widen and they're like, okay.
And you're like, dude, we're not at a seminar right now.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And that's what's bullshit about seminars.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, can you imagine if you were in the world of business?
See, I really think this is one of the reasons why so many people are so fucked up and so depressed.
I think the world of showing up to a place and then...
Having your behavior limited into this very narrow and rigid parameters all day long and your livelihood and your success of your family and whether or not you can send your kids to a good school, all that depended upon whether or not you're willing to play the rules.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have to wear an outfit with a suit and a tie because if you don't, you might be unpredictable.
And you show up with that t-shirt on.
He's got a football shirt on at work.
What the fuck?
Is he drunk?
What is he, crazy?
He's doing drugs?
It's true.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
bert kreischer
I've never let it join around people that don't just like joints around people.
joe rogan
Yeah, Elon Musk.
I crashed Tesla's stock by $9 billion or some stupid shit.
tom segura
So crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, but not really.
It bounced right back.
tom segura
It bounced back, but yeah.
joe rogan
But it's that world.
First of all, we were drinking whiskey, okay?
No one has a problem with that, which is way more of a hard drug, way more of a crazy drug than a little puff of a joint.
We were drinking whiskey.
No one cared.
We drank whiskey for three hours.
No one cared.
Smoked a little joint.
I don't even think he inhaled.
tom segura
Didn't look like it.
bert kreischer
Didn't look like it.
He looked like a ninth grader.
joe rogan
He didn't know what to do.
He took a little puff.
tom segura
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
New kid at school.
Just means everyone just wants to, oh, I'd do it too.
tom segura
Not bad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fascinating.
tom segura
That is crazy.
I mean, another layer of it, you did it in California.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Totally legal.
bert kreischer
Totally legal.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's no different than having that glass of whiskey.
You know California said you could fly with it now?
tom segura
What?
joe rogan
LAX said you could have an ounce of weed with you on an airplane.
Really?
They said, we don't know what the fuck's going to happen when you land somewhere, but you can go through LAX with an ounce of weed.
bert kreischer
I'm sorry.
tom segura
By the way, I looked up private suite after I talked to you.
joe rogan
Super expensive.
tom segura
So expensive.
joe rogan
Stupid expensive.
bert kreischer
How did you know about it?
joe rogan
Sam Harris.
He told me about it.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm like, I like people.
I don't mind going to the airport and saying hi to people.
That thing is like $7,000 a flight.
bert kreischer
It was round trip, yeah.
tom segura
No!
bert kreischer
I think it was $3,000.
tom segura
Well, the membership, I thought the membership was it, and they're like, membership gets you the prices, so you pay $4,500 to be a member, and then $2,700 for a domestic flight.
Per flight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
For, like, your own entrance, you know, whatever, your own meals, your own check-in, your own TSA. Yeah, you get, like, a little room you hang out in.
I think it sounded cool for, like, a family vacation or something, you know?
bert kreischer
If you're Chris Pratt, it definitely makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
If you're some A-list actor-type person who can't go anywhere.
Yeah, if you're Tom Cruise.
Well, he's...
But those guys, they have to fly private.
tom segura
They do.
They own their own planes, most of them.
joe rogan
There's some article online about John Travolta's yacht.
Pull up John Travolta's yacht.
I bet if you went over that fucking thing with a black light...
It would look like a Jackson Pollock painting.
Just be fucking splatters.
tom segura
Jesus.
joe rogan
He got a new yacht?
Everywhere.
Yeah, apparently.
bert kreischer
Well, the Cabin Boys place really is lighting up.
joe rogan
Cabin Boys place got five locks on the door.
He's got bolts on the inside and outside.
tom segura
All the deckhands are really worn out here, yeah.
joe rogan
He's got very weird latex outfits for them to wear.
Yeah, it's...
The money that that fucking guy must have.
tom segura
God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's got his own jet and he has his own like a jet jet.
tom segura
He has a 747. Yeah.
bert kreischer
He has a 747. Yes.
joe rogan
And he has a runway in his house.
unidentified
For what?
tom segura
He has like multiple planes.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Full story behind Travolta's private jet fleet.
Look at that.
He's got his arm out the window.
Do you think he flies with a window open?
tom segura
That's a fucking commercial plane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
In the back room, it's all like a slip and slide with baby oil.
That's all it is.
tom segura
Look at that.
Look how many he has, it says.
He's got multiple Gulfstreams.
joe rogan
You know, he flew for Qantas as a commercial pilot.
tom segura
He did?
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
Like on...
joe rogan
They actually let him fly.
He's that good of a pilot.
tom segura
Wow.
joe rogan
That I think he has some sort of commercial standing with Qantas.
He has a military jet.
Just in case someone calls him a homo.
unidentified
Flies over and fucking buttons him down.
tom segura
That's really crazy.
joe rogan
Some guy gets mad at him asking to get a handjob at a massage.
unidentified
See if you...
That's his jet.
That's his yacht?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's his yacht.
unidentified
Christ.
joe rogan
I didn't see any stories about it by this.
Hashtag baller.
bert kreischer
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
That is ballin'.
joe rogan
That's a crazy yacht, man.
I mean, that's like a $100 million yacht right there.
unidentified
Where did he make all his money?
joe rogan
I mean, how much money did he make from like Pulp Fiction?
bert kreischer
He had that one great movie about being a Russian spy or teaching a Russian spy.
tom segura
His wealth wealth wasn't...
He kind of depleted when Pulp Fiction was like around 93. And then that made him so famous and hot again that he was a $20 million movie guy while that was lasting.
bert kreischer
Face-off.
joe rogan
Yeah, all those movies.
But he's doing terrible movies now.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Is he?
joe rogan
Yeah, he did that Gotti movie.
It's supposed to be...
We should probably have a fight companion for Gotti.
tom segura
I heard it was really bad.
joe rogan
I've heard it's so bad.
bert kreischer
I'm in.
joe rogan
We should do...
November rolls around, we can get drunk again.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Let's get hammered and watch this Gotti movie.
It's supposed to be a wretched sack of shit.
bert kreischer
Let's do it.
I'm in.
unidentified
Let's do it.
tom segura
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll do that.
We've been meaning to do that.
What was the other terrible movie we were meaning to do that with?
unidentified
I have it on.
It's called Roar.
The movie about lions.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
There was a movie where a guy who was a lion trainer actually made a movie with lions and a bunch of people that were making the thing.
Oh, play the clip.
Let's hear the clip.
Do you have the wrong music playing?
unidentified
The music is really the Sting song?
joe rogan
That's a piece of shit movie this is.
The trailer sucks.
Look, this is like an acting class.
Good, let it play out.
Oh, will YouTube yank us for the audio?
Look at him.
bert kreischer
There's a look he just did.
unidentified
Look at his face!
bert kreischer
The truth!
joe rogan
Dude, it's so fake.
unidentified
Okay, kill it.
Kill it.
joe rogan
I can't do this.
This is so bad.
tom segura
I almost feel like you can't even do a mobster anymore.
It's like it feels like a joke to play.
joe rogan
You could do it, but it would have to be like you have to bring James Gandolfini back to life.
Like if James Gandolfini was alive today, he could do a Sopranos movie.
tom segura
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Because you believed it.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
It's got to be authentic.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd believe it.
Scorsese could probably do it again.
There's just a bunch of people.
He's got a new one coming.
bert kreischer
When he's playing young God, he just looks like a grown-up Danny Zuko.
Hey, apparently Danny and the Greasers.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what, man.
bert kreischer
The T-Birds.
joe rogan
After the Sopranos came on the air, everybody wanted to be Italian.
It was one of those gross moments in time where all these Italians were, like, empowered, and they were all talking like goombas, and they all wanted to fucking get together and have pasta.
A little fucking pasta together.
tom segura
Come on.
joe rogan
They, like, ramped it up.
bert kreischer
They say mozzarella.
joe rogan
Mozzarella.
bert kreischer
Mozzarella.
tom segura
Lots started doing the hand gestures like the guys.
Come on.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that going on.
And, you know, as a person who's legitimately Italian, it was disgusting to me.
I was like, you fucking apes.
Like, what are you doing?
You know?
tom segura
Yeah.
Yeah, you see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they ramped it up, you know?
tom segura
And Greek people are like, I'm Italian.
Start pretending that they're...
joe rogan
People would pretend!
tom segura
For sure.
joe rogan
There was a time where there were so many auditions for so many fucking movies that was all about Italians.
tom segura
All Italians, yeah.
joe rogan
What is this, Life on the Line?
tom segura
A power line guy?
unidentified
Really?
tom segura
Come on!
bert kreischer
By the way, we should...
tom segura
This is probably worse, for sure.
What the fuck?!
joe rogan
How about Urban Cowboy?
bert kreischer
This is the premise of Urban Cowboy.
Urban Cowboy works on the line.
joe rogan
We'll have a double feature.
It'll be a three hour night.
We'll play Gotti and we'll play Life on the Line.
We'll have people sync it up.
This is what we'll do.
Mark those two.
Mark those two movies.
And so we'll get those on the Netflix.
And after Sober October's over, we'll get fucking hammered.
We'll bring a five gallon jug of Tito's in here.
We'll play two movies.
tom segura
I love it.
bert kreischer
I love it.
tom segura
I rented a Bruce Willis one to laugh at.
I was like, this is going to be a piece of shit.
And it didn't get bad until like 25 minutes were left.
I was actually, this is a pretty good movie.
What movie was this?
I think it's called Death Wish, which I think it's a remake.
joe rogan
Death Wish?
Bruce Willis?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was actually really well done until like third act.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
Then it like fell apart.
But I'm watching it like, this is going to be a piece of shit.
And 30 minutes in, I'm like, this is a good fucking movie.
bert kreischer
It was like that with The Snowman.
Did you see The Snowman?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What was The Snowman?
Death Wish, Bruce Willis.
tom segura
It's better than I thought.
joe rogan
That movie got delayed for some reason.
Why did it get delayed?
Because of mass shootings or something?
tom segura
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
I think so.
Yeah, something along those lines.
6.4 at IMDB. I mean, the trailer makes it seem like real dog shit.
Yeah, but you're talking to me, a guy, I enjoyed Hudson Hawk.
Hudson Hawk was good.
I enjoyed it.
bert kreischer
Marlboro Man.
What was it, Harley and the Marlboro Man?
unidentified
8%.
bert kreischer
Dude, the snowman ends.
What is it?
Spoiler alert, the snowman ends.
It's this guy.
joe rogan
Don't spoil it.
bert kreischer
Dude, it's so ridiculous.
It's so fucking ridiculous.
joe rogan
What's it about?
bert kreischer
It's about a serial killer who is leaving snowmans as hints.
And he's cutting off body parts and then arranging them in the snow.
Michael Fassbender is an alcoholic cop who is trying to solve it.
joe rogan
Who's Michael Fassbender?
bert kreischer
That guy.
joe rogan
Is he the guy from Prometheus?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is he the robot from Prometheus?
tom segura
It takes place abroad, right?
bert kreischer
Yeah, it takes place.
But man...
I don't want to talk negatively, but Val Kilmer's performance is so disturbing that it pulls you out of the movie immediately.
joe rogan
Is he terrible in it?
bert kreischer
No, it's when he's going through the throat stuff.
And they dubbed his voice.
tom segura
In what?
In this?
bert kreischer
They had him dub his voice.
So they took out his voice because he couldn't understand him, I guess.
And then they dubbed his voice.
I mean, it's like, it's so bad that it pulls you out.
And you're like, you definitely should have just not had him in the movie.
And let him get healthy.
I think he's doing better now, hopefully.
joe rogan
No, I think he is.
I think he's going into remission.
You know, I'll tell you what, man.
He fucking stole this show in Wyatt Earp.
Remember that?
tom segura
Val Kilmer?
unidentified
Dude!
joe rogan
I'm your Huckleberry.
Remember that shit?
bert kreischer
You name all the movies.
Heat, The Doors.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
He was murderous.
joe rogan
He was a monster.
unidentified
Murderous.
joe rogan
Val Kilmer is a motherfucker of an actor.
bert kreischer
True genius.
joe rogan
See if you can get that scene from Val Kilmer as...
bert kreischer
Doc Holliday.
joe rogan
Doc Holliday in Wyatt Earp.
tom segura
The funniest piece of shit he made was The Saint.
Did you see The Saint?
bert kreischer
I saw The Saint and I liked The Saint.
joe rogan
That was a superhero movie, right?
tom segura
No, it was like a spy, like I play, I get in disguise.
joe rogan
Here, crank this up.
tom segura
Oh my god.
bert kreischer
This is the very end.
joe rogan
Okay, the audio will be pulled off.
This is a great fucking scene.
This is a great scene.
The thing about this scene is you believe it.
You just believe it.
When that dude realizes it's the wrong guy.
bert kreischer
I didn't understand this scene until recently.
joe rogan
People can't hear this on the YouTube?
bert kreischer
No?
Okay, so they're making a talk?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I didn't understand that he's...
This is him.
The reason the guy's...
I didn't understand why the guy was scared.
It's because Doc Holliday wants to die in a gunfight.
joe rogan
Yeah, because he's dying.
bert kreischer
Yeah, he wants to be shot.
joe rogan
Also, he was killing everybody.
Doc Holliday was a fucking monster.
And this guy was a wannabe badass.
And he realized that Doc Holliday was going to fuck him up.
tom segura
I've never seen this.
joe rogan
You never saw this?
bert kreischer
Are you serious?
tom segura
I don't like westerns.
I hate horses.
joe rogan
You hate horses?
tom segura
I do.
joe rogan
Why do you hate horses?
unidentified
I don't know.
tom segura
I've just never liked them.
bert kreischer
Hey, this isn't about fucking horses, Tom.
tom segura
I don't like this time.
I don't like the aesthetic.
bert kreischer
Wait, you're lying.
tom segura
You're lying.
I swear to you.
I don't like their hats.
joe rogan
You hate hats.
tom segura
I'm serious.
I don't like any of it.
bert kreischer
Are you shitting me?
tom segura
No.
bert kreischer
This is one of the best movies ever.
tom segura
Not interested.
bert kreischer
Because occasionally they get on a horse?
tom segura
And I don't like their hats.
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Can you look lower?
tom segura
Eh, it still bothers me.
bert kreischer
I like the mustaches.
joe rogan
Look how sweaty he is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look how close they are to each other.
Do you think people really stood that close to each other and had gunfights?
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Dun-dun-dun.
bert kreischer
I wouldn't mind doing a gunfight with you, Tom.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
bert kreischer
Come on.
He wants them to shoot him now.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It doesn't seem as good second time around.
Maybe in the context of the entire movie.
bert kreischer
I love these mustaches.
They all look like alt-comics now.
joe rogan
Kurt Russell was weird in the movie.
bert kreischer
I think I must make hand-batched ice cream.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Are alt-comics real anymore?
I felt like that just evaporated.
tom segura
Yeah.
Is that real?
I think it's still real.
bert kreischer
Nah, they're still real.
joe rogan
You know what's one of my favorite things?
Watching alt-comics go up in the main room.
tom segura
Yeah, you see it.
You know, they kind of get walk-in shell-shocked.
They already know that it's not...
Their crowd.
You could see...
unidentified
I didn't realize what that look was until you just said it.
bert kreischer
I've seen it before and I've always been like, ah, is this your first time here?
And then you can see it in their eyes and you're like, oh, you're going to love it.
This is the greatest room in the world.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Man, that's so funny.
tom segura
They get more aggressive.
You can tell it's unnatural.
joe rogan
They get aggressive about being progressive.
bert kreischer
What's up, motherfuckers?
joe rogan
Aggressively progressive.
Yeah, I remember when alt was thought of as if you were alt, you were soft and progressive and sensitive and kind.
Now alt is right.
Like alt-right.
You think of alt-right.
That's all you hear about now is alt-right, which is like assholes.
You think of racism.
You think of xenophobia.
That word alt got sort of hijacked.
tom segura
That's true.
Yeah, I didn't even think about that, but it does.
You say alt, most people's mind will definitely go alt-right.
joe rogan
Yeah, over the last few years.
tom segura
Right.
But in the context, in the world of comedy, it actually, oddly, usually implies somebody who's probably...
Far to the left.
joe rogan
Yeah, but only with us, I think.
tom segura
Right, only within comedy.
joe rogan
With audiences, I don't think they even know that expression anymore.
That's probably true.
I feel like alt-universally, publicly, has sort of been hijacked by alt-right, or at least the definition of it has been hijacked by alt-right people.
tom segura
That's true.
That is true.
unidentified
Right?
bert kreischer
I guess I don't...
Yeah, I guess so.
I assume there's got to be an alt-left, right?
joe rogan
Well, I think there was, but I think the problem is once you say alt, now everybody just thinks right.
bert kreischer
See, I would automatically...
tom segura
Yeah, but the term alt-left sounds made up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
But what are the alternative to the right of?
joe rogan
It's the idea that it's young right.
So, okay, but assholes.
So, like, the right.
If you think of conservative, you would think of, like, Lindsey Graham.
You think of, like, people that are...
Probably racist, but they keep it under wraps.
They have slippery shoes.
bert kreischer
Dude, I thought Lindsey Graham was a chick until this week.
tom segura
Really?
bert kreischer
I literally went, that's a dude?
joe rogan
I thought it was a six million dollar woman.
bert kreischer
Oh, he's got that southern accent that you can't tell if it's gay or not.
joe rogan
It's because it's the same thing.
unidentified
It's like, well, I'll do declare, this is the biggest of travel speed!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is weird.
Watching these Kavanaugh hearings.
The whole thing is so strange.
bert kreischer
Oh, you gotta keep your head down if you do not agree with the...
Like, I just tweeted that, uh, can you imagine defending your high school yearbook?
That's all I tweeted.
joe rogan
I saw that.
bert kreischer
And it was a fucking shit show.
joe rogan
I saw that, yeah.
bert kreischer
And I was like, I'm fucking out.
joe rogan
People can't recognize that you're not in support of this guy, you're not in support of anything like it, but it's a real thing.
bert kreischer
And I'm not going to sit there and virtue signal simply so that people know, oh, I'm on your team.
I'm just a fucking comedian.
tom segura
You're just making an observation, really.
bert kreischer
Can you imagine defending your high school yearbook?
joe rogan
That would be fucking insane!
Do you guys remember Hicks' bit about Clarence Thomas?
unidentified
No.
tom segura
No.
I'm sure I've heard it.
joe rogan
Hicks had a bit about Clarence Thomas when they were trying to bring him into Supreme Court.
Oh man, I wish I could remember exactly how the bit went, but it was a great bit.
But it was about his porn collection.
You know, like Mr. Hicks.
tom segura
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
Familiar at all with Clam Lappers, Volume 1 through Dandy.
unidentified
All of them?
tom segura
That's what he says.
unidentified
All of them?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was just like this funny bit, but like, you know, just examining.
bert kreischer
That was funny, by the way.
tom segura
Lindsey Graham, do you see, like, after he left...
Where they decided, they voted on that they're going to...
Well, they voted that it's going to move to the floor, but they decided, like, you know, we'll try to do this extra week of the FBI investigation.
And then he goes, somebody's going to have to explain this to Trump.
I guess that'll be me.
Like, to the press.
Basically, that is a not-so-subtle way of being like, dum-dum doesn't get it, so I'll...
joe rogan
Did you see what Trump said to one of the fucking reporters today?
tom segura
No, what?
joe rogan
One of the female reporters said...
So crazy.
He goes...
He pointed to a woman, and he said, go ahead.
And he goes...
She's speechless.
She can't believe I called on her.
And she goes, well, I didn't think.
He goes, yeah, you don't think.
Yeah, I get that.
I'm sorry.
And she goes, I'm sorry, sir.
Like, listen to this.
Listen to this.
Listen to this.
You never do.
tom segura
Listen to this.
unidentified
Jesus, man.
joe rogan
Listen to this.
tom segura
He can't help himself.
joe rogan
He's crazy.
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
She's shocked that I picked her.
donald j trump
It's like in a state of shock.
unidentified
I'm not thinking, Mr. President.
That's okay.
I know you're not thinking.
You never do.
I'm sorry?
No, go ahead.
What?
bert kreischer
That's our president.
joe rogan
That's such a crazy thing to say to someone.
No, I know you're not thinking, you never do.
bert kreischer
She must be someone that's written really negative things about him.
unidentified
Of course.
tom segura
You know he's got that hit list on everything.
Who's this?
That piece of shit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
joe rogan
The whole thing's madness.
tom segura
He keeps a record here.
They have records of anyone who's slighted him, anyone who's...
Written anything bad, said anything.
For sure, man.
bert kreischer
See, I'm not confrontational.
I don't like confrontation.
So there's part of me that goes, like, I always thought, I wish Kim Jong-un would be a fan so I could go over and party with him for a week.
tom segura
What?
bert kreischer
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you?
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
You don't think that way?
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
You don't think that way?
Yeah, loose dictators.
Fucking party with him, bro.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
tom segura
You want to party with him?
I would.
Really?
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah.
Like, Fidel Castro would have been cool.
tom segura
It would be crazy, too, if you went over there, partied with him, and then just, like, on a whim.
No, like, the next morning, when you're like, I had the best time, he's like, send him to a labor camp.
Fuck this guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck you.
You want to lose some weight?
How about I give you one grain of rice a day?
tom segura
Oh, man.
That would be fun.
joe rogan
And you drink piss.
My piss.
That's it.
You want to stay hydrated?
Here's a jug of piss.
bert kreischer
I guess I'm the only one that thinks that way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
No one wants to go party with him.
What are you talking about?
bert kreischer
Are you being serious?
joe rogan
Ruthless dictators.
bert kreischer
You get offered a private gig.
They're like, hey man, it's in...
tom segura
It's in Pyongyang.
joe rogan
Seems reasonable.
bert kreischer
We're going to fly you private.
tom segura
Are we getting paid before?
I kind of need a little bit up front, I think.
Maybe a deposit?
bert kreischer
We're going to fly you private.
It's going to be really amazing.
A million dollars.
joe rogan
Super private.
You know what flying private's like?
Sitting down.
It's so awesome.
I'm just sitting down.
Why would they be amazing?
You're sitting.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not like you're flying private.
People are rubbing your feet and sucking your dick.
Feeding your ice cream.
It's the best ice cream ever.
I'll post amazing movies playing.
The music is fucking full 3D surround sound.
tom segura
Of course, you could make all those things happen if you want.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you want to fly private, Dan Belzerian probably does that when he flies private.
bert kreischer
It's the draw for flying private.
Obviously, I can't afford it.
I mean, I guess I afford it.
I just wouldn't make any money on the road.
But is that you get done and you go home.
You get done and you get on a plane and you fly home.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or you just wait 20 minutes and you save $30,000.
bert kreischer
Not 20 minutes.
Wouldn't it be nice to get on a plane?
You fly private, you fucking cuck.
tom segura
I've done it.
joe rogan
Are you calling him a cuck?
Why are you calling him a cuck?
tom segura
I have no idea.
joe rogan
He's just insulting.
How does that make him a cuck?
bert kreischer
You fly private though.
tom segura
I don't fly private.
bert kreischer
You have flown private.
tom segura
For like a couple of times.
But it's never like because I was like, ah, I just got to get home.
It was just, you know, instead of doing crazy transpo to get to a gig, yeah, for a short flight though.
I don't do it like on a regular basis.
joe rogan
Call them out.
You just call them out for flying private.
I saw that.
bert kreischer
Because I never thought about it.
And then he was like, wouldn't that be nice?
And I was like, yeah, it would.
joe rogan
You know what's one of the grossest celebrity things ever?
Is the posing in front of the private jet.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
Dude.
tom segura
You know what?
Comedians don't do that, though.
joe rogan
Yes, they do.
tom segura
Oh, I guess they do.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
Black ones.
But I'm saying like our friends.
joe rogan
Well, not our friends.
tom segura
No, I know.
joe rogan
I know a few that suck that do it.
tom segura
Yeah, I've seen...
bert kreischer
Are you looking at me?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I'm looking at you because you know who I'm talking about.
I mean, there's only a few that do it.
It's just a weird thing.
tom segura
But Bert would definitely pose in front of it shirtless.
You know he would.
joe rogan
What if we were all on a private jet flying somewhere and we'd post it?
Would that be okay?
Say if we had a gig in Aspen to celebrate after Sober October's over, we decided to book a gig together and we all were shirtless, hammered on the runway, looking ripped because we're going to lose shitloads of weight this month.
tom segura
And we all pose?
That's fine, right?
bert kreischer
Wait, let's do this.
I'm really excited now.
joe rogan
What's the most amount of points you've gotten in a month?
tom segura
In a month?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
I think it was just under 4,500, I think.
joe rogan
4,500 is a lot.
tom segura
Yeah.
The most I've seen somebody do was 7,000.
joe rogan
7,000?
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
7,000.
joe rogan
Whoa.
That's crazy.
tom segura
Yeah.
But that's like you're really, really going after it all the time, you know?
Probably all 30 days.
joe rogan
More than twice of what I did for 15 days, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's a lot of work.
tom segura
Oh, here's the thing we didn't discuss, though.
joe rogan
What's the bet?
tom segura
What are the stakes?
What are we doing?
What happens if you win?
What happens if you lose?
joe rogan
First of all, it's just us, because Ari isn't even in this bet.
tom segura
He actually goes, will I gauge my long walks in New York?
bert kreischer
And we couldn't stop giggling, because we just pictured Ari shirtless in New York with a chest trap on.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get five points, you fuck.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
I don't think he's going to be a...
Stanhope called me and said he wanted to do it.
joe rogan
Well, he's not going to do this, though.
bert kreischer
Yeah, he's not going to do this, and he's also not going to...
He's like sober October-ish.
I can't go off everything or I'll have a stroke.
joe rogan
Well, it's not that he can't go off everything.
He just can't go off it immediately.
He's actually going to a doctor this week, and he's going to get himself checked out, which is a rare thing.
Stanhope, I don't know if you know this, Stanhope has sort of a policy to not go to the doctor, and when it breaks, he dies.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's his idea.
He doesn't want MRIs, doesn't want diagnoses, doesn't want recommendations, doesn't want prescriptions.
tom segura
But he is going this week.
joe rogan
He's going to go this week to get himself checked out to make sure that he can go.
I mean, as much as Stanhope is sort of a fatalist and he loves being this lovable drunk, it can't feel good to just always be drunk.
It just can't feel good.
I know he's taken time off before, and I know he's taken time off before smoking as well.
I know he quit smoking for quite a while at one point in time.
I think he would like to be healthier.
I mean, I know he would.
He would have more energy.
I think it would make his comedy better.
I really do.
Not that his comedy's not amazing.
It is.
But I just think he'd have more energy.
Yeah.
tom segura
Energy's a big thing.
joe rogan
So I think...
And I also think he's just something to do and connects him to us.
He's out there in fucking bumfuck Bisbee, Arizona, hanging out with a bunch of dorks.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
No, they're...
I... I like partying out there.
Partying out there is fun as fuck.
tom segura
You like partying anywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do.
You ready to party in North Korea, you fuck?
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
The invite's out there.
I hope to God someone just puts this in front of him.
joe rogan
Encrypted email.
bert kreischer
They go, Kim?
This, and then I want you to watch the machine story.
And then he watches the machine and he goes, ah, let's make another one.
joe rogan
Let's make new stories.
bert kreischer
I've had moments where people go, we could get you into some trouble.
And I get fucking scared.
I was with a group in Tanzania that were like, we're going to go kidnap a baby elephant if you're into it.
tom segura
God damn, dude.
joe rogan
Kidnap a baby elephant.
bert kreischer
Yeah, another tribe had kidnapped this elephant from a sanctuary.
joe rogan
They're going to kidnap it back?
bert kreischer
And the Messiah was going in to kidnap it back.
And I was like, part of me is like, if you get a little bit of a buzz, I'm in.
joe rogan
That sounds like a good way to die.
tom segura
Yeah.
Good Instagram video.
bert kreischer
It's all about the Insta stories.
joe rogan
How do you have the time to do those Insta stories?
Because doesn't that interfere with actual life?
How often are you present in real life when you're doing...
I look at your dots on your Insta story and I'm like, Jesus, there's like 70 dots.
bert kreischer
No, I don't ever put that many.
I'll probably put up 10 a day.
joe rogan
Is that your thing?
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
What's that?
joe rogan
Is that mine or yours?
bert kreischer
Yours.
joe rogan
Might be mine.
Why is it beeping?
Do I take it off of this?
tom segura
No, having it hanging like that.
But sometimes it'll just do it anyways.
But yeah, it's fine like that.
joe rogan
Will this beep when I'm working out?
tom segura
If it beeps, one beep means it's on.
That three beep means off.
joe rogan
I shut all the beeps off on the app so I could use it in yoga class.
tom segura
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't want it beeping.
tom segura
Of course.
joe rogan
You know?
tom segura
Yeah.
You know you can wet those sensors, right?
If you want it to get a good reading to start.
joe rogan
It worked out.
tom segura
Yeah, great.
joe rogan
It was good.
bert kreischer
I look at Instastories.
I look at Instagram as part of business.
joe rogan
It's not me.
It beeped again.
Fucking thing's annoying.
You look at it as part of business.
bert kreischer
I look at it as part of my business, and so I go, I am very present in life.
I don't insta-story everything, but in moments like when the rat runs into our house, I definitely don't insta-story that.
And I always have my phone on me.
It's in my pocket.
tom segura
I like how you're like, I'm very present, and then right before we start, you're like, I'm terrible at this at home.
bert kreischer
Dude, I'm not a good parent.
I'm taking care of my kids by myself.
My wife's somewhere traveling abroad.
joe rogan
Look at all these dots, bro.
That ain't ten dots.
Look at this.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
I think it's eight dots.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Looks like more.
bert kreischer
I sent Isla to school with a bag of rice.
joe rogan
But it's only 1 p.m., and you have eight dots already.
bert kreischer
Well, there's someone from last night and yesterday.
It's 24 hours.
unidentified
Okay.
bert kreischer
I'm parenting by myself.
I can't do.
I'm not good at it.
joe rogan
It's a good chance to bond with your kids.
bert kreischer
It is, or they realize exactly how out of touch you are with their lives.
joe rogan
Well, I'm not one for giving parental advice, but what I would say to do is abandon all other things you do while you're doing it.
So think of yourself as like a mom, like a house mom.
Like instead of like trying to squeeze it in with all the other shit you do, you won't be good at it if you do that.
If my wife goes somewhere and I have to just take care of my kids, I don't do anything else.
I schedule nothing.
Nothing else.
If I do a podcast, I have to do it during the day while the kids are at school.
And then once they're...
I don't do shows that night.
I don't do shit.
I just hang out with them.
And we do shit.
Make sure I take them to a pottery class or we'll go to a fucking dojo boom.
One of those bouncy places.
They have trampolines and shit.
Just do stuff with them.
bert kreischer
I do that.
joe rogan
But leave your phone off.
Leave your phone off.
Your kids are there.
Unless you want your wife to contact you, maybe that.
But don't look at your Twitter.
Just hang out with them.
You have to have rules in your head.
bert kreischer
My kids are a lot older than your kids, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but still you want to interact with them.
It doesn't matter how old they are.
bert kreischer
I know, but your kids are still young.
Mine are like 14 and 12. Yeah, but don't you hang out with them and do stuff with them?
Last night we watched Deadpool.
We're going out to dinner tonight.
Perfect.
Yeah, but just the actual getting up.
I was telling Tom I got up at 5.45 to make them breakfast, and my oldest daughter had already pulled the trash out, put it by the back door for me to take out, and literally gave me a speech, and was like, just so you know...
You need to be ready to go at 5.45.
You can't just get up at 5.45 and slow roll into the morning.
joe rogan
What time is school?
bert kreischer
She's got to be at school at 8, I think.
joe rogan
She's lecturing you?
bert kreischer
That's what I said.
And Leanne was loving it.
Leanne called.
She's like, yeah, you got to get going.
You can't just get up and be regular Bert.
You're daddy on duty.
I made the mistake saying I was going to make pancakes.
Everyone was like, you don't have time to make pancakes!
And I was like, guys, if I'm going to make pancakes, I'm making pancakes.
I've got the batter stirred, and they're like, we need something else.
We're already hungry.
We've got to go.
And so, yeah, we're on a schedule.
Leanne's a gangster with that shit.
When you fold me into her life, my brain doesn't work like that.
joe rogan
Right, right.
Yeah, I get that.
But it's like, when you're just hanging out with them, just them, you've got to realize, for everyone that has kids, you only have a few of these years.
You know?
You only have a few.
And then next thing you know, they're adults.
And it happens quick.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
14 that happened overnight.
joe rogan
You know, I have friends that don't have good relationships with their kids.
And it's weird.
It's weird to see.
unidentified
That sucks.
joe rogan
It sucks.
It sucks.
You know?
It sucks.
It's weird to see kids that are resentful, angry at you.
tom segura
You got that coming for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure, right?
Is that coming?
bert kreischer
No, teenagers is tough, man.
joe rogan
It is tough.
Well, first of all, being a teenager is fucking tough.
You gotta, like, remind them over and over again you're dealing with a torrential downpour of hormones that you just don't know what to do with.
You remember what that was like?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You're so confused all the time.
tom segura
Totally confused.
joe rogan
Your body's in fucking disarray.
tom segura
And probably for you, it's probably exacerbated by them being this generation and knowing that you're racist.
You know what I mean?
bert kreischer
Don't start that shit.
joe rogan
It's so fucking annoying.
And you're always drunk and racist.
And then the CrossFit people are picketing outside your house.
unidentified
so what are our stakes so That's what we haven't worked out.
joe rogan
Okay, so the most you've ever gotten is...
So what did I get today?
200 or something like that?
What did I get?
bert kreischer
211. Yeah.
joe rogan
So 211. That's a normal workout for you, right?
tom segura
Yeah, I think 200 is a good, strong workout.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
A good, normal workout.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So if you get 200...
Well, if I did 200 twice a day...
tom segura
Jesus, man.
How many days a week do you plan on doing that?
joe rogan
I'm going hard, son.
I'm trying to kill Bert.
bert kreischer
I'm in for the challenge.
That Mickey Mandeljean, I want you to say that Mickey Mandeljean's real.
Oh shit.
You've yet to acknowledge it.
tom segura
But you just heard what he's doing.
bert kreischer
I know, and I understand that.
I have the accessibility to get there.
I'm up for the challenge.
tom segura
But you're planning on, Joe, you're planning on essentially...
joe rogan
Trying to kill Burt.
tom segura
Yeah, but you're essentially planning on 400 points a day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
You're planning on 400 points a day.
tom segura
And do you want it six days a week, let's say?
Or what?
joe rogan
Yeah, at least.
Yeah, I might go seven.
I might try seven days a week.
bert kreischer
So hypothetically saying, 400 points a day.
joe rogan
I think if I do different things.
tom segura
That's true.
That's the key to it.
unidentified
8,000 points.
joe rogan
Be close to it.
The only thing is I have a hunting trip that's going to take me away for six days.
bert kreischer
I have a cruise that's going to take me away for five.
joe rogan
But when I'm doing the hunting trip...
unidentified
Stay sober!
bert kreischer
I know!
I have no idea how Bobby Kelly's going.
joe rogan
But when I'm doing the hunting trip, I'll send this to you, Jamie.
You can see what a typical day in the mountains is.
That's some of the most brutal workouts I've ever done.
Because you're hiking at altitude, and when you're at altitude, man, it's fucking...
I did 12 miles a day, 31,000 steps, 116 floors at 8,100 feet.
tom segura
Well, just so you know, if you wore it...
joe rogan
That's a typical day in the mountains hunting.
tom segura
If you wore it, by the way, for that, it would come out to some crazy number.
bert kreischer
How many steps did you say?
joe rogan
That's 31,000 steps up there, 12 miles in the mountains.
But the thing is the elevation.
You're going up and down hills and stepping over logs, and you're always breathing heavy.
It's rough.
tom segura
Are you going to wear it for that?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
tom segura
Okay.
bert kreischer
Jesus Christ.
Okay.
Fuck, I guess I'm running another marathon.
joe rogan
I mean, that's working out.
bert kreischer
You know how many times I have to run around that goddamn cruise ship?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
All right, so 120,000 points a year, a month, would be you doing two-a-days.
joe rogan
No, you can't get that many points.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
There's no way.
tom segura
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
We're talking 8,000 at the most.
He said 4,500 was his best month, and that's crazy.
tom segura
That was working out like...
Probably 22 or 23 days and doing something like 200 plus points each time.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
bert kreischer
Okay, so 8,000 is ridiculous too then?
tom segura
No, yeah, that's crazy.
bert kreischer
Okay.
Your best month's 4,000.
tom segura
Without being in a competition, I've hit 4,300, 4,400 let's say.
bert kreischer
Okay.
Joe immediately would get 6,000 if you just did what you did today every day of this month.
joe rogan
Close to it, if I did it every day.
But that was just the morning workout.
I'm doing two-a-days.
bert kreischer
We're all doing two-a-days.
I get this.
We're back in high school.
Here we go.
Someone call the fucking rock.
unidentified
So...
bert kreischer
I'm getting nervous.
Well, I know we're going to have stakes on this, and this makes me more exciting than anything.
tom segura
Yeah, no, it's good.
bert kreischer
But I have a challenge.
joe rogan
Whatever it is, listen, we should all come in even and just make Ari pay for everything.
I love it.
Because he's never going to catch up to us.
tom segura
And big shout-out.
I mean, Ari, we've said it before, but he really did come through on that bet.
He did.
I'm saying when he took us to the game, he bought crazy tickets, and I thought they were much less.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
He gave us a first-class experience.
joe rogan
Nice.
tom segura
And we should make him do it again.
joe rogan
Yeah, like what would be the stakes?
bert kreischer
Well, it's got to be something that we can all participate in.
joe rogan
Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, too.
tom segura
Ooh, that's a great one.
joe rogan
Front row.
tom segura
We're talking about...
joe rogan
Look at that.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
By the way, by the way, say whatever you want about me being on my phone the entire time.
I have the best fucking video from that.
Of the last, them scoring a touchdown.
tom segura
Yeah, that's crazy.
bert kreischer
I videotaped the touchdown and then cut to Tom and Ari.
joe rogan
Ah, nice.
tom segura
Yeah, no, it's great.
bert kreischer
That was a really fun fucking weekend.
tom segura
That was.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
That's how big that place is.
That's where Larry the Cable Guy performs.
tom segura
Oh my god.
unidentified
Fucking nuts.
tom segura
He does.
joe rogan
He performs in places like that.
That's how big his audiences are.
bert kreischer
When's Floyd Mayweather Pacquiao?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think it's in December.
Is it in December?
tom segura
Tentatively, yeah.
joe rogan
Would you guys even want to see that?
tom segura
I would definitely go to that.
unidentified
It might be in Japan, though.
bert kreischer
What?
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
Oh, I'm fucking so into this.
unidentified
It might be.
They haven't booked it yet, so I don't know.
jamie vernon
There's just talk that it might be there.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
Guys, let's go to that.
bert kreischer
In Japan?
joe rogan
Damn, that sounds crazy.
tom segura
But also, that's like asking Ari to call football.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're not flying coach, Ari.
tom segura
No way.
joe rogan
Not flying coach across the ocean.
unidentified
Hey, you lost the bet!
joe rogan
There's no way he could win, right?
So someone has to win.
Someone has to win.
But more importantly, one person is going to lose.
So if you beat me and I beat you, that don't mean shit because we're all beating Ari.
bert kreischer
It's like a skins game.
tom segura
But you know he's going to be like, I'm not doing the fucking points.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
But maybe he's listening to this right now and he's stewing.
bert kreischer
Should we call him?
joe rogan
He's getting angry.
tom segura
And he's sober, which might make him stew even more.
bert kreischer
He's like, fuck you.
joe rogan
I'm going to win.
I'm going to fucking win.
What if Ari goes crazy and just fucking goes whole hog every day?
tom segura
He could.
joe rogan
Six hours a day.
Takes spin classes and CrossFit classes and wears it during Jiu Jitsu.
Floyd Mayweather is planning to come back in Tokyo before his rematch with Manny Pacquiao.
tom segura
Oh, okay.
This was a couple weeks ago, so.
joe rogan
Oh, so he wants a tune-up fight.
Huh.
That might not be real.
unidentified
Yeah, it might not.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm, you know...
tom segura
Would you go to that?
Would you go to the fight, though?
joe rogan
Yes.
It'd be an interesting fight.
I mean, they're both past their prime.
tom segura
But it'd still be a fun event, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, Manny Pacquiao just knocked out Lucas Matisse, and Floyd hasn't fought in a year since he beat Conor McGregor.
But that's not a real boxing match.
I mean, it's a boxing match, but it's not a boxing match at an elite level.
If he was boxing Terrence Crawford or someone who's at the very top now, he's not in that kind of zone right now.
But he's still the best ever.
If not the one of a handful of the greatest boxers in the history of the world, ever.
No question.
bert kreischer
What we should do is tier the winnings.
unidentified
There you go.
bert kreischer
First place, pays for nothing.
Whole weekend.
tom segura
I like this idea.
bert kreischer
Second place, pays for their ticket, whatever's least expensive.
Pays for their ticket, and nothing else.
Third place, pays for all hotels.
Tear it off so that the last place just pays the most out, but he's not dropping 20 grand.
tom segura
Let's say the last place person has to cover flights, but they can use their miles.
joe rogan
See, the problem is, Ari's bets are like, no, no, no, the loser has to wear a beard of my pubes.
tom segura
And he's got to clean his face with my comb.
bert kreischer
You guys scared me.
joe rogan
All of his fucking, all of his suggestions.
tom segura
So psychotic.
bert kreischer
We have to drink all of our piss?
And I was, Leanne saw that over my shoulder.
She goes, no, no, we're not drinking everyone's piss.
tom segura
He said like, you gotta be a panhandler for six hours on the corner.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
bert kreischer
I was like, I'm into that already.
unidentified
Yeah, he wanted us to do really ridiculous shit, like walk down the street naked.
tom segura
The tears of paying for it, so it's a good idea.
joe rogan
Right, so one person doesn't take the whole beating.
bert kreischer
First place pays nothing all weekend.
tom segura
But that's true.
The first place should be, I don't cover shit.
joe rogan
The first place should get a belt.
We should make a belt.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
Sober October belt.
bert kreischer
A real one?
Like a real, real one?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a WWE belt.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tom segura
Sober October.
joe rogan
We need a sober October belt.
tom segura
Who's the champ?
joe rogan
Jamie, this is a project.
I need you to look up where you would get a pro wrestling belt.
tom segura
And not no knockoff shit.
bert kreischer
Oh my god, I just found my inner voice when I work out.
That fucking belt.
Oh my god, I'm in.
I'm fucking so excited.
tom segura
So you're going to start doing two days?
bert kreischer
I might be doing three days.
joe rogan
Wow, look at him.
unidentified
Look at him.
joe rogan
He's serious.
tom segura
He's excited now.
bert kreischer
Dude.
tom segura
Now tell him he ain't shit, and there's no way he'll win.
This will fire him up even more.
bert kreischer
Tell me I can't run a marathon.
joe rogan
You definitely ran a marathon.
tom segura
But there's no way you'll win this, though.
There's no way you'll win this.
joe rogan
Wow, Tommy's got reverse psychology.
Look, you get a Pepsi belt.
Who the fuck wants a Pepsi belt?
tom segura
I know a guy.
He's diabetic.
joe rogan
So what...
What should we have on the...
tom segura
Hey, is that me?
Up on the right there?
bert kreischer
No, I think it's...
joe rogan
That is you!
tom segura
Oh no, sorry.
joe rogan
The Bearded Gentleman Belt.
Okay, so we found a company that makes belts.
What is the name of this company?
unidentified
ProAmBelts.com.
joe rogan
Nice.
Okay, so we need some sort of a logo.
We need, like, Sober October is definitely the name of it, right?
The Sober October Belt.
Mm-hmm.
tom segura
The Undisputed Sober October Champ.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And we like diamonds, man.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
What should we have on it?
bert kreischer
It should be our faces engraved in it.
tom segura
Should it be like the no smoking sign, no boo sign?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No pills on the side?
No needles.
bert kreischer
Oh, no, you mean on the sides.
tom segura
Yeah, on the sides.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Good call.
Piles of coke.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
And then a guy trying to suck his own dick and we'll just tell everyone it's yoga?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, so we'll have to come up with...
How long does it take to make one of these belts?
bert kreischer
Hopefully less than a month.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
Whoever Pro-Am belts, if you're listening, three to four weeks.
unidentified
Oh, perfect.
tom segura
Oh, we better get on it.
We better get on it.
bert kreischer
Oh, this is going to be so much fucking fun.
joe rogan
So if we finish the design by the end of this week, we might be able to have it at the end of the month.
You might be holding up that belt.
How's that feel?
tom segura
Feels great, man.
bert kreischer
Tommy, you definitely want to be holding up the belt.
It's either me or Joe.
tom segura
No way.
There's no way.
bert kreischer
Flights, lodging, tickets.
joe rogan
He's just missing you.
tom segura
There's no way.
joe rogan
He had $4,500 in a month.
bert kreischer
You've never worked out with him.
I've worked out with him.
joe rogan
What happens?
bert kreischer
Oh, he gives up.
Did we ever work out together?
No.
tom segura
We've done hotel pre-show workouts.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
We worked out before.
tom segura
Oh, and we did.
Actually, when we were in Phoenix, we went to an MMA gym.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
We did.
We worked out.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Tom and I used to go to Barry's Boot Camp together.
joe rogan
What happened?
bert kreischer
I don't mind throwing up if I work out.
It seems like you enjoy it.
I do.
Because I know that I've done it as hard as I can do it.
joe rogan
I get it.
I've thrown up before.
bert kreischer
A girl came into my green room this weekend and threw up.
She thought she was looking for the bathroom and just fucking threw up in my green room.
joe rogan
That's your kind of crowd.
bert kreischer
That's what you're cultivating.
I started throwing up.
tom segura
By the way, your promo you showed me, it's going to bring in more vomiters, just so you know.
bert kreischer
I cut a promo.
It'll be dropping next Monday.
We're announcing my tour next week.
But I cut a promo.
joe rogan
It's all you hurling?
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
It's just what it's like being at one of my shows and it's fucking chaos.
tom segura
It's chaos.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, your shows are chaos.
You're not doing just a comedy show.
You've got like a whole party experience happening.
bert kreischer
Well, yeah.
I mean, stand-up.
It's stand-up straight stand-up.
And then a lot of times I do a meet and greet.
People get to talk and hang out.
I think as a fan, I like that.
So I do that.
And then a lot of times at the end of the night, a lot of times I go, I'll be at the bar next door and everyone goes to the bar.
Those are fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Do you think you can do that when the crowds get to like 3,000, 4,000?
tom segura
Of course not.
bert kreischer
I don't know.
I actually had a real lucid conversation about what meet and greets are going to look like on this theater tour because I don't want to get rid of the meet and greets.
It means, as silly as it sounds, but I think it means something for them to hang out.
joe rogan
It does.
bert kreischer
And I don't want to charge like $100 for a meet and greet, but I definitely can't do 1,200 people.
Like when I did the Wilbur, I told everyone to go meet me at the bar next door.
And it was fucking chaos.
I mean, it was like literally elbow to assholes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And I just was not...
I didn't get to hang out with anyone.
I was just taking pictures over and over and over again.
joe rogan
Right, right.
bert kreischer
So I want to try to figure out some workaround for a meet-and-greet for this theater tour because, dude, when I go to Scandinavia, I want to meet podcast fans.
joe rogan
You know one thing that annoys me?
Those pictures where people have stacks of pictures they want you to sign and they sell them.
tom segura
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That is not...
That's not, like, take a picture with me.
That's not, will you sign this for my friend?
That's not, will you sign this for me?
That's like, you're asking me to work.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're fucking shameless.
tom segura
And they go, they come out with the one, like, hey, we signed, and you go, oh, yeah.
And then the six behind it come to the side, and they're like, and this, and this, and this, and this, and this.
joe rogan
Some guy the other day had 30. Yeah.
bert kreischer
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're running to you at the airport and there's like six dudes and they have stacks.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, hey man, you're showing up and you want me to work.
This is what you're doing.
You want me to stop what I'm doing and you think it's only five minutes of your time.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's true.
But you're not really a fan.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You're just a guy trying to get me to work.
tom segura
For sure.
Do you sign them?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I sign one.
I say, I'll sign one.
I'll sign one.
And they get mad.
Like, some guy got mad in Philly.
Remember that dude?
He got upset.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, do you know why you're famous?
unidentified
You're fans!
joe rogan
And I was like, you're not a fan.
You just told me you're not a fan.
He told me.
He literally told me.
He's like, you don't even sell well.
He goes, you sell for like $7.
I go, I don't give a fuck what they sell for.
tom segura
What, my autograph?
joe rogan
You don't even sell well.
unidentified
I go, I sell.
joe rogan
I said, don't show up at the airport and harass me then.
I'll sign one.
bert kreischer
Do you do a meet and greet?
You used to do a meet and greet tonight.
joe rogan
I used to do...
I'll still do that, but I used to do meet and greets at the Chicago Theater for 3,700 people.
I would wait and take photos with everybody for hours and hours.
bert kreischer
That's cool as fuck, I think.
joe rogan
But you can't do it anymore.
People got too crazy.
As the podcast got crazier and crazier, people got crazy, and they would hold on to your arm and want to tell you how you changed their life and want to tell you long stories.
I'm like, look, I... There's 500 people behind you waiting.
I can't give you 15 minutes here.
I can't give you five minutes.
It just got too strange.
And it just got too many people wanting to get on the podcast.
Like, you've got to get me on.
I'm going to tell you my story about beating drug addiction.
I'm sure it's a great story.
I can't get you on.
Stop.
This is not how this works.
There's just too much of that.
If it was just, hi, I want to take a picture, I had a good time.
Great.
But it's not that.
Then it's all these agenda-driven people that want to do things and they want you to do things for them.
There's too many people that have been on the podcast that are just regular folks and then they get on the podcast and now people know about them.
And so a lot of people think, hey, if I just got on the podcast, that would make my career.
tom segura
Totally.
joe rogan
Whether they're a singer or they have a book, it just gets too annoying.
It's too overwhelming.
tom segura
But the meet and greet is actually part of your brand, I feel like.
unidentified
Seriously.
bert kreischer
Yeah, it definitely is.
When we did that theater run with Sal Vacano and Nate and all those guys...
joe rogan
No, I'm just moving.
bert kreischer
I'm sorry.
None of the guys wanted to do a meet-and-greet, and there was like a thousand people waiting outside the theater, and I just thought...
But that's different, because that's who I am.
If I go see a band, I am like...
Super compelled to go talk to them and tell them how great I thought they were.
Part of that is who I am.
And so I went out and did pictures with everyone waiting in the alley at the Chicago Theater.
And I was like, and then when someone goes, dude, you have no idea.
I love the podcast.
I love Tommy.
I love the weight loss.
I love that interaction.
I remember one time I was in Scotland and I was like, I just hit it out.
Hey, does anyone, any fans want to go have a beer with me?
And these three guys showed up and it was right when Bobcat was on your podcast.
And we just bullshitted about Bobcat's appearance.
unidentified
Wow.
bert kreischer
We'd all listen to it.
So, you know, I think I... But I don't know what...
I'd like to maybe charge only to, like, weed out the people that don't want to, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, but see, there's the problem.
I'm not...
I'm philosophically opposed to making people pay for pictures and making people pay to hang out with you.
I just don't think it's right.
bert kreischer
But there should be a way to, like, just...
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's not.
Just thin the hurt a little bit.
unidentified
But here's the thing.
joe rogan
Unless you charge money or pick people.
So there's a company now that does that.
They do these VIP things.
And someone brought it up to me.
And they're like, you can make this money.
I'm like, I'm not doing it.
And they go, but you can make some money.
Stop.
I'm not doing it.
I used to do it for free forever.
I stopped doing it because too many people got too weird.
But I'm not going to charge people.
I'm just not going to do it.
But I know a lot of fucking people that do.
bert kreischer
A lot of people.
joe rogan
And they make a lot of money doing it.
bert kreischer
You used to do it, right?
tom segura
What?
The Mean Green?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, I also feel like, you know, honestly, I like meeting people.
I meet people on the street.
I meet them...
When I walk out of the back of the venue, there's people there.
I always meet people.
But I just don't...
I'm not that good at the meet and greet.
I'm just not that comfortable with it.
I don't like it that much.
bert kreischer
It's definitely not...
I mean, not being shitty, but it's not you.
You're not like...
tom segura
I'm not very social.
joe rogan
There's people that are demanding.
And they're like, oh, you don't love your fans because you don't want to do this extra thing for me.
No, no, no.
Here's the arrangement.
The arrangement is I work hard on my act.
I do a lot of sets.
I prepare, take the show very seriously.
I come to town.
I try to do a kick-ass show.
That's the arrangement.
Thank you, good night.
Our deal's done.
Now, if you think that you have to tell me some fucking life story for 20 minutes or I'm not your friend, like, no.
This is not the arrangement.
This is not, like, you're demanding too much.
And you're also not aware of how many other people would want to do the same thing.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like it would be impossible.
It's just, it's untenable.
You can't do it.
There's too many humans.
tom segura
I would say that for me, like anybody who wants to wait outside that door, I'll meet anybody.
joe rogan
Dude, she fucked up, son.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shouldn't have said that.
That was a mistake.
tom segura
They're not going to wait.
joe rogan
They're coming right now.
bert kreischer
They're getting ready.
joe rogan
They're camping.
They have a little trailer out there right now.
bert kreischer
Tom and I are so, it's amazing that we're friends because we're so very different men.
There was once a comment on his Instagram that made me laugh so hard compared to my comments.
It was, hey Tom, I'm really sorry for looking at you at the airport.
tom segura
No, he said, I'm sorry.
I said, hi.
bert kreischer
Sorry, I said hi to you at the airport.
But it's just Tom's face.
He's not needy.
That's what it is.
So when some guy said hi, Tom went, hi.
And then the guys didn't know what to say and walked away.
tom segura
He came up.
I still remember it.
I was at the Atlanta airport.
He came over as I was about to take the escalator at Hartsfield-Jackson.
And he goes, hey, I'm a big fan.
I go, oh, hey, man.
And it was like a quick thing.
He was like...
Big fan.
I go, thanks a lot.
I appreciate it.
Got on the escalator.
Never thought twice.
And then he wrote, I'm sorry that I bothered you at the airport.
I was like, you didn't bother me at all.
joe rogan
That's just someone who's trying to get a reaction from you.
tom segura
Oh, that's all it is.
joe rogan
He's not really sorry.
tom segura
And also there was nothing to be sorry for.
bert kreischer
I'm the exact opposite.
joe rogan
He just wants to keep it going.
Hey, I'm sorry.
Don't be sorry.
Can I hang out with you?
What's your dick taste like?
tom segura
But, Burt, yeah, no one would ever apologize.
bert kreischer
Dude, I was at the hotel that Bellator was going on this weekend in San Jose, and so it was all fucking fighters, right?
I ran into Big John McCarthy in the elevator.
What a great guy.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
bert kreischer
Dude, he's like, I knew who he was, but I didn't want to, like, I was afraid, and I was just working out, and he was like, he was like, hi, just get done working out?
I was like, yeah, I wouldn't want to bother him.
He goes, we have a mutual friend, and I was like, Does he know who I am?
He was like, Joe Rogan, and I went, I know exactly who the fuck you are.
unidentified
But you saw that big cock.
joe rogan
That's a big fella.
bert kreischer
No, no, John, that's a different guy.
I'm sure John has a big dick, too.
Musashi's got a fucking hammer.
joe rogan
When did you see Musashi's dick?
bert kreischer
In the fucking sauna.
joe rogan
You saw his dick?
bert kreischer
Dude, it's legit.
joe rogan
Of course.
tom segura
He called me about it.
joe rogan
They called you about Musashi.
I didn't see the fight because the fight's on some new streaming thing called DAZN. It's called DAZN. They have a whole commercial about how dumb the name is with Michael Buffer.
They have a commercial about how dumb...
How do you spell it?
unidentified
DAZN. DAZN? He's joking about, I know DAZN. It's called DAZN. But it's not DAZN. There's no O. Amen.
joe rogan
You can't change how people pronounce things phonetically.
That's stupid.
Someone probably made it and they got stuck.
Well, Mousasi just beat the shit out of Rory McDonald, stopped him in the second round.
I didn't even get a chance to see it, because I thought it was going to be on TV, and so I went to check my Bellator on my DVR, and it wasn't even there.
tom segura
Did he beat him with his dick?
joe rogan
He beat the shit out of him with his dick.
bert kreischer
I don't know how that guy cut weight with that fucking hog on it.
joe rogan
Hamming him with his cock.
tom segura
Wow, I want to see that footage now.
joe rogan
How big?
10 inches?
bert kreischer
I'll tell you what, it's bigger than this.
joe rogan
No.
That fatter than a water bottle?
bert kreischer
Bro.
unidentified
I'll tell you right now.
joe rogan
See, at a certain point in time, your dick becomes a liability when it's as fat as a water bottle.
tom segura
For sure.
bert kreischer
I don't know how he brought that into the ring with him.
joe rogan
Like, every girl, I mean, he's probably unsatisfied.
tom segura
Totally.
joe rogan
All the time.
tom segura
As soon as they pull it out, they're like, hold on a second.
joe rogan
They're like, get out of here.
Out!
bert kreischer
He weighs 172 that day because I got on the scale after he did.
joe rogan
No, he weighs more than that.
He fights at 185. He cuts weight to get to 185. He used to be a light heavyweight champion.
So he used to be fighting at 205. Maybe I looked at the thing wrong.
bert kreischer
Maybe I looked at the scale wrong.
And I think the scale was off because it said...
tom segura
Did it say you weighed 195?
joe rogan
If Gegard could make 172, he would destroy everyone in the welterweight division.
He's a murderer.
bert kreischer
Is that how you say his name?
joe rogan
He's big.
Gegard Mousasi.
bert kreischer
I thought it was Gerald.
joe rogan
Maybe you're talking about a different person.
bert kreischer
Nope, I'm dyslexic, so when I read things, I don't see it right away.
joe rogan
No, Musashi's a monster, man.
He's one of the big losses for the UFC, because in my opinion, he's one of the top two or three 185-pounders in the world at the UFC. He had beaten Chris Weidman, and then he goes over and fights in Bellator now.
But apparently, they just came up with some large cash.
They're trying to get big names over there.
unidentified
Dude, Bellator...
bert kreischer
I don't know anything about UFC, so don't hammer me about that, but like...
Dude, Bellator was really cool just being down there.
It was like Chael Sonnen, Rampage Jackson, like 50 Cent was there.
It was like a really like, if you're a passerby fan of MMA, then you're like, oh, shut the fuck up!
joe rogan
They're doing really good fights.
They have big, they have...
They have Michael Chandler, who's one of the top lightweights in the world.
Rory McDonald is one of the best, if not the best, welterweight in the world.
He's definitely like top two or three.
He's beaten Tyron Woodley, who's the UFC champion, who I think is the best.
tom segura
But Rory they snagged over then, right?
joe rogan
They snagged him.
bert kreischer
They have...
joe rogan
Yeah, but Vanderlei's way past his prime, and so is Rampage.
You know, those guys, they're doing the Legends tour, and Rampage just knocked out Vanderlei.
But Vanderlei doesn't look good anymore.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
They should let him get on the juice.
Let him juice it up.
Let him juice it up.
But, you know, they're doing a great job.
They're doing a great job.
They're promoting these fights well.
In the welterweight division, they have Douglas Lima, who's one of the best in the world.
They have Paul Daly, who can knock out any living human being.
They have Lorenz Larkin.
bert kreischer
50 Cent was giving away a cash prize.
Jesus Trejo got into the steam room with 50 Cent.
joe rogan
What does it say to award Bellator?
What does it say?
Welterweight grand prize winner, a million dollar cash prize.
Didn't he just go bankrupt?
bert kreischer
50?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Sold this part of a deal he had with the Get the Strap brand, which I guess he owned and sold, and part of that money is going into this.
joe rogan
A million dollars goes to give the person a million dollar cash prize.
So the welterweight Grand Prix, they had Koreshkov just fought Lima.
Those two guys are excellent too.
Koreshkov is another top 10 guy in the world, I think, and he's fighting for Bellator too.
Lima beat him.
Lima and Rory had a great fight.
Rory beat Lima by decision.
So there's Rory, Douglas Lima, Paul Daly, and still, to this day, Paul Daly can knock on anyone.
He's so fucking dangerous a puncher.
All he has to do is connect.
He's got a left hand that's just a nuclear missile.
And he just knocked out Lorenz Larkin, who's also a top welterweight.
There's so many good fighters over there now.
bert kreischer
There's so many good fighters in general.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
MMA is coming up right now.
I mean, there's the top talent.
This fucking fight this weekend between McGregor and Khabib Nurmagomedov is going to be crazy.
That is a crazy fight.
tom segura
That's Vegas, right?
joe rogan
Yep.
That is a fucking crazy fight.
tom segura
You're calling that?
joe rogan
Yep.
I don't know what the fuck's going to happen.
bert kreischer
Are you excited?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
How cool is that?
I wish I wasn't going on this cruise.
I would totally hit you up for tickets.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, I'm super excited.
bert kreischer
Speaking of which, on this bet, do you think you can get us free tickets so we can take that out of the cash prizes?
To what?
joe rogan
To go where?
I'll get you free tickets for the UFC, for sure.
bert kreischer
Do you think we could leverage you to get us tickets to a boxing match?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
We can get some tickets.
bert kreischer
As opposed to putting that on, because that may make the prize horrendous.
Right, if it's a primo fight.
joe rogan
Right, right.
So maybe I'll get the tickets for the fight.
I'll use leverage to get the tickets.
And then we'll make a big deal that we're going to go.
And then we'll get suites at some hotel somewhere.
bert kreischer
Lodging.
joe rogan
And the loser has to pay for some extravagant meal and crazy booze.
unidentified
Flights, right?
tom segura
Someone's got to do flights.
bert kreischer
Hold on.
Flights and lodging are going to be on the bet.
And then...
tom segura
That's the way to do it.
bert kreischer
Are we going to Vegas?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't want to go to Tokyo for some fucking stupid fight.
bert kreischer
Yeah, let's go private jet.
Let's go private jet into Vegas.
joe rogan
Because he's talking about fighting this guy that's not Manny Pacquiao in Tokyo.
He's not talking about fighting Manny Pacquiao.
If he fights Manny Pacquiao, he's gonna fight him in Vegas.
That's where the real money is.
tom segura
Bert, you're gonna end up spending a lot of money.
bert kreischer
Should we get matching suits?
joe rogan
Do you think you're gonna lose?
bert kreischer
No, I'm not going to lose.
There's no way.
joe rogan
Are you going to win the whole thing?
You think you're going to come in?
Is it your fantasy that you come in at the end and you win the whole thing?
bert kreischer
Cinderella story.
joe rogan
You should work out with me once.
bert kreischer
Okay.
joe rogan
I'll kill those fantasies.
unidentified
I'll kill them all.
I'll kill them dead.
tom segura
I want to know what you think you're going to get.
bert kreischer
Dude, I've got a page of numbers right here.
tom segura
What do you think it's going to happen?
bert kreischer
I almost want to unfriend you now so that you can't see my track.
joe rogan
You should see mine.
bert kreischer
Yours is scaring me.
I know what I have to do now when I go home tonight.
tom segura
Wait, let me understand.
What do you think you're going to get?
I want to know.
What do you think you're going to get?
Because you're good at calling your shots.
joe rogan
Well, Tom has already achieved more in a day than my first workout.
You've already achieved 230, you said, was the most you had a day?
tom segura
The most I've ever done in a day is 380. 380 in a day?
bert kreischer
Is that a two-a-day?
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Wow.
tom segura
Actually, I'm sorry.
It's more than that.
380 in one workout.
bert kreischer
Whoa!
tom segura
How did you do that?
Seven miles and I did mostly uphill and then I went around and like so it was like a hike run, right?
Sustained heart rate for a long period of time.
joe rogan
Oh you guys are fucked then when I wear this elk hunting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You guys will never care.
I'll get 500 in a day.
tom segura
Oh, you'll do more than that.
joe rogan
You want side action?
unidentified
You guys can get side action going on top workout.
bert kreischer
Side pieces?
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And most single day.
joe rogan
Most single day.
tom segura
On that day, so you could do, let's say, a hike like that, a run, and then go back and go, oh, I want to get another 100 points.
I'm going to go on this.
joe rogan
How long was this battery go for?
tom segura
A long time.
joe rogan
Yeah?
tom segura
Can you work for a week?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
Yeah, I didn't charge mine for a second time until after I had it for over seven months.
joe rogan
Oh, okay, for all skeptical people.
This is not a sponsor.
We don't know anybody that works at this company.
We talked about it in text messages.
I said, we should do this punk rock.
We shouldn't have a company sponsoring us.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
This is a good metric system.
It's a good product.
We're going to use it because of that.
And I don't want them to sponsor us.
So this is non-sponsored.
And if it's a piece of shit, we're going to get to say it's a piece of shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So.
Just so.
Because people are like, you fucking went corporate.
bert kreischer
I like these side acts.
I like these side acts.
tom segura
Bert right now is like, I kind of wish you'd do a sponsor.
bert kreischer
No, I'll try.
joe rogan
Kim Jong-un's willing to sponsor me.
tom segura
Fly me out.
I'll do a big show.
joe rogan
Pyongyang is a nice place.
unidentified
It's still that bad.
bert kreischer
You know I'd do it for real if they hit me up, and then I'd get destroyed.
Would you really, though?
Probably.
joe rogan
But why would you want to do that?
Why would you want to go to a...
unidentified
I don't know.
bert kreischer
It's about the stories.
I like crazy stuff like that.
joe rogan
It's definitely a good story.
bert kreischer
It's definitely on brand.
Most single-day workout gets a new suit.
joe rogan
Okay, that's good.
bert kreischer
And all three of us have to buy them a new suit.
tom segura
Oh, Ari just texted.
joe rogan
What'd he say?
tom segura
How do I register this thing?
bert kreischer
Alright, Ari's in.
We got a fucking Patsy.
tom segura
That means he's in.
He's in, man.
joe rogan
Wow, Ari's in.
bert kreischer
How is Ari going to compete?
joe rogan
But he doesn't exercise.
bert kreischer
Oh, you know what's so great?
Most single day he gets a suit and we're going to be in the best shape of our lives.
So we'll get a skinny suit that we'll never be able to wear again.
tom segura
Yeah, we should, right?
joe rogan
He has to email them for a facility code.
tom segura
Yeah, it's easy.
They'll send it right away.
You're right.
We should wear suits to the gig.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
Oh, I've never...
I don't even have a suit.
tom segura
Alright.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you know what we'll do?
I'll contact David August.
They're the guys who make my suits.
tom segura
Yes.
bert kreischer
You have suits?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
I know David August.
joe rogan
Yeah, they make awesome suits.
tom segura
Hey, he sure does.
joe rogan
Handmade.
It's got like a little bit of flex to it, so if you're built like a troll like me, you can move around in these things.
bert kreischer
There's a flex around their belly?
joe rogan
Yes, everything.
What's that, Jamie?
unidentified
Tom's got a suit guy.
joe rogan
You got a suit guy?
tom segura
Yeah, but David August is...
joe rogan
Yeah, he makes Conor McGregor suits.
bert kreischer
Wait, have you ever seen the video of when Tom got his fat suit?
He looks like a king of comedy!
Tom went to Asia with Chad.
tom segura
Chad Daniels and Pete Lee.
bert kreischer
And they went and got suits made.
joe rogan
Well, Ari does that.
tom segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a documentary called I Need You to Kill that I'm in.
It's really good.
It's on Amazon Prime.
And there's a scene in the documentary where we go and we get suits made.
And yeah, I go with Chad and it's really, really fun, man.
I mean, yeah, I went to the same district that Ari got his maid in.
And that guy, Danny.
I went to Danny.
The names are really...
They're like, did you get yours at Joe's or Danny's?
Like, that's the designers there.
But they do a great job, man.
bert kreischer
First place pays for nothing.
Second place, most single day gets a brand new suit.
Should we do third place pays lodging?
Fourth place pays for flights and we fly private?
tom segura
I like it.
joe rogan
I like that.
tom segura
Man, Ari's going to have to pay for a flight.
bert kreischer
You're going to pay lodging.
tom segura
Yeah, right.
There's no way.
bert kreischer
Second place has got to pay for something.
tom segura
Yeah, second place has got to pay for it.
Whatever the second...
bert kreischer
Dinner.
One big...
No, I don't know.
Lodging might be more than dinner.
joe rogan
Yeah, big dinner.
unidentified
I would say big dinner.
joe rogan
Big dinner.
bert kreischer
We could ball the fuck out on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, we could go crazy at dinner.
Bottles of wine for a thousand bucks.
bert kreischer
Do you realize if I'm in...
Oh my God.
Now I'm getting panicked because I know that I'm going to be wanting to drink at a dinner.
I told you about the dinner I went to Ralphie with.
joe rogan
Ralphie Mae?
bert kreischer
Me and Ralphie went to dinner with our families.
joe rogan
What did you guys do?
tom segura
This is one of my favorite stories.
bert kreischer
We've been partying all weekend.
tom segura
This is Hawaii.
bert kreischer
No, this is Bahamas.
Oh, okay.
tom segura
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But you've got to set it up that at the time, you're like middling or just entry level.
bert kreischer
That was a feature act.
joe rogan
How many years ago was this?
bert kreischer
This was Leanne and I's first trip away from Georgia.
So it's from our daughter.
joe rogan
10 years plus?
bert kreischer
It's got to be at least 10, 11 years.
Oh, you can actually find it.
It's on my video, because I posted a video at that time.
So it's probably 2007, maybe?
Before traveling.
joe rogan
So what happened?
tom segura
And Ralphie's killing it.
bert kreischer
It was the week before I started Burt the Conqueror.
I was 37 years old.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
bert kreischer
36 years old at the time.
tom segura
Ralphie's killing it.
bert kreischer
Ralphie's balling.
tom segura
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I'm headlining some, maybe for like $1,500, $2,000 I'm headlining.
But I'm still featuring at the time.
joe rogan
Okay.
bert kreischer
And so maybe I'd done Jameson Comedy Tour.
So I had a little bit of money, but no money to speak of.
So we go to do this gig for Paul and Young Ron.
And the first night there, we go out to eat, and it's a huge dinner.
And I'm like, how much do I own?
And I was like, oh, player, you know I got that Bird Chrysler.
Don't worry about it.
You and Leigh Ann have a great weekend.
I said, no, I got to pay for something.
No, player, don't even reach for your while when you're Ralph and Ralph and May.
So we go out that night.
Everyone goes drinking.
We have a great time.
The next night we go out to eat.
Everyone goes out to eat.
Ralphie, once again, I go to pay for it.
He goes, oh, playboy, you know money's no good around me.
unidentified
Just come on.
bert kreischer
Have a good time.
We go to a show.
Have an amazing fucking show.
We go out drinking again.
Ralphie picks up everything.
The last night there, we go to sushi at Nobu.
And Leanne says, you can't let Ralphie pay.
You've got to pick up the bill.
And I went, okay.
So I go over to the lady before...
I'm going to screw up numbers.
I'll tell you that right now.
But I go over to the lady before the bill comes and I go, hey, the big guy's not paying.
Here's my credit card.
And she's like, okay.
So we eat, and I drink, and we eat, and I drink.
tom segura
And Ralphie's getting, like, boats, right?
Boats.
Like, they're just like, you know, where they lay it out.
joe rogan
I mean, they brought out 50 pieces of hushie.
bert kreischer
Yeah, they're like, are you cool with eating dolphins?
And so, and I am doing sake bomb after sake bomb, and the lady comes with a check, and it's like, $2,000.
I did not have $2,000, and I didn't have enough money for the tip.
I was like...
joe rogan
Why did you think you could pay?
bert kreischer
I didn't know what the bill would be.
I've never paid attention to that stuff.
What?
joe rogan
Do you ever eat out?
bert kreischer
No, but I wasn't paying attention to what the bill would be.
I thought it would be $500, $600.
I didn't know how expensive sushi at Nobu was that everything's through the roof.
She puts the check in front of me, and I open it up, and I see it, and I immediately...
Freeze.
And Leanne goes, how much is it?
And just instinctually, I go, fuck you, that's how much it is.
And she goes, and Ralphie fucking, fucking, oh shit, Bert Kreischer!
You fuck now!
You should've let me pay, Bert Kreischer!
Then I go, Ralphie goes, don't worry, player, we go out and win it back.
So I go to our bank machine, and I pull out a thousand dollars, and I go over, and I put it on black.
Hits red.
I'm down $3,000 within a matter of minutes.
joe rogan
Wesley Snipes lied to you.
bert kreischer
Leanne won't speak to me.
It's probably one of our biggest fights we've ever been in.
We're fighting in the lobby, and I'm hammered.
joe rogan
She's mad because you bet the extra money?
bert kreischer
No, because I said, fuck you, that's how much it is.
Don't ever talk to me like that.
You're my partner.
We're team.
I didn't know what to say in the moment.
It was more money than we had.
That was like, at the time, that was like probably three weeks on the road for me.
tom segura
Of course, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Damn, you fucked up, son.
And then you gambled away a thousand like a week?
Fucking, God.
bert kreischer
Is that Mickey Mantle gene?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's not a Mickey Mantle gene.
bert kreischer
I'm joking, I'm joking.
joe rogan
That's Lou Gehrig's disease.
It's preposterous.
tom segura
My favorite part of that story is just like, you know, that you got shamed.
That's what I love about it.
joe rogan
What makes you feel good about that?
tom segura
It's just that it's my friend doing something stupid.
I gotta run, actually.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tom segura
I do.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
Oh, so we haven't worked this out, right?
tom segura
I know.
joe rogan
We kind of have to bring Ari in on this, right?
Because he can't have no say.
He couldn't be here today.
unidentified
We do.
bert kreischer
Call him right now.
Call him right now.
joe rogan
Okay, call him up.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's see if he answers.
unidentified
Let's see if we all call at the same time who he answers.
bert kreischer
I know who he's answering.
Let me see.
unidentified
Stingy Joe.
tom segura
Did you get him?
joe rogan
You trying?
unidentified
Go ahead.
What?
What?
Can I do this fucking stupid thing?
bert kreischer
Hey, you're on speaker with Joe and Tom.
We can all hear you.
And we're doing Joe's podcast.
unidentified
I give no consent to this.
You do not have consent to use my voice.
bert kreischer
Hey, we're talking about the bet.
Here's what we're thinking, right?
So with these MyZone fitness trackers, Joe did 200 today.
He plans on doing two a day.
So we're thinking the person who gets the most...
Most calories...
Most points burnt in a week.
He doesn't have to pay for anything out of this challenge, okay?
unidentified
That's Joe who's running away from.
joe rogan
Everything.
bert kreischer
That's Joe.
Murder.
My agent's now calling.
Shit.
No, so...
The bet is we're going to go see...
joe rogan
Running away from.
bert kreischer
We're fighting...
We're going to a fight in Las Vegas, okay?
Joe thinks he can get...
joe rogan
Hang up with your fucking agent.
unidentified
I don't know how to.
joe rogan
Don't be scared.
bert kreischer
I don't know how to...
There we go.
Here we go.
First place will have to pay for nothing.
Second place would have to pay for, we're thinking maybe one meal.
Third place will have to pay for lodging.
Just let me fucking finish.
Third place will pay for lodging.
Fourth place will pay for...
unidentified
When you say let me finish, I don't know any of the things you're talking about.
I don't know the terms you're talking about.
So you're giving me all the details of something I don't understand.
joe rogan
Good point.
unidentified
So what I would suggest you're doing is telling me what you're talking about and then giving me the details.
bert kreischer
The person with the most fitness points for the month will get in first place.
The person with the second most fitness points will get in second place, and so on.
Now, there's a side bet going on.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
tom segura
And the prize is going to a big fight, a big boxing match.
bert kreischer
A big boxing match in Las Vegas.
unidentified
There you go.
bert kreischer
Yes.
First place, the person with the most fitness points for the month will not have to pay for one thing.
Second, please.
Please.
unidentified
I'm begging for change on the corner of La Cienega and Santa Monica.
No.
joe rogan
What about a pubic hair beard?
unidentified
I'm down with all those.
What's the money you fucking wrote gigs for?
bert kreischer
Come on.
joe rogan
See, I knew he would turn this into humiliation.
tom segura
We all come on the loser's face, though.
That's part of it.
joe rogan
That's part of it.
Drink a goblet of our piss.
Combined piss.
And I'm eating asparagus.
tom segura
Wait, but so, Ari, are you in?
Is he in?
bert kreischer
Are you in on the bet?
unidentified
I can't imagine this thing, but I don't know what weekend this is.
I don't know if I have this whatever weekend you're talking about for free.
bert kreischer
We haven't figured out the weekend.
tom segura
We have to figure out the weekend.
It's got to be a weekend everyone can go.
bert kreischer
Yeah, we'll figure out the weekend.
It's an event.
unidentified
It's a boxing match.
I hate boxing.
joe rogan
Oh, tell them this.
Yeah, but we're going to be high as fuck.
It'll be fun.
And tell them this.
There's a belt involved.
bert kreischer
Oh yeah, the winner gets a belt.
We're getting a belt made.
joe rogan
Sober October belt.
And you're going to have to defend it every year.
We're having it made.
And it's going to have pills on it with a line through it, heroin on it with a line through it?
bert kreischer
A guy sucking his own dick.
unidentified
Why don't we do something we all want to do?
joe rogan
Well, we were going to go to see Floyd Mayweather rematch Manny Pacquiao.
We don't have to do it though.
unidentified
But it'd be fun.
Will it take place nine years ago when everyone wanted to see it?
joe rogan
It would be fun to be in Vegas like a gentleman.
bert kreischer
Yeah, we're all together.
tom segura
Yeah, we don't have to work.
We're just all there to hang out.
joe rogan
We're going to smoke cigars like a fucking gentleman.
unidentified
When is that happening?
joe rogan
I think it takes place sometime in December, but they haven't made the date.
They haven't made the date yet.
tom segura
You're in, right?
unidentified
I'm gone all December.
joe rogan
You're gone all December?
Where are you going?
unidentified
European?
joe rogan
What if we go to a good Bellator event where I don't have to work?
You want to go see an MMA event?
unidentified
Why don't you take off and we go see a UFC in the middle of the stands and we'll get high there.
We'll do a bunch of heroin in the stands.
joe rogan
I can't take off one...
Okay, I'll tell you one thing.
We can do one that I don't have to do, because I only do the big ones.
I don't do the ESPN ones, and some of the ESPN ones are going to be really big.
I could be in the audience for that.
Yeah, let's do that.
We could do that.
bert kreischer
Okay, now we don't have to worry about tickets.
joe rogan
Okay.
bert kreischer
Alright, the fourth place has to play for the flight, and we're flying private.
unidentified
Private jet?
tom segura
Yeah, but just to Vegas.
It's not a lot.
joe rogan
If it's a Vegas event, though, I'm probably going to work it.
I'm going to be honest with you.
tom segura
Okay, so it's just to fucking New York.
It's not that much.
joe rogan
Yeah, Toronto.
We'll have to figure out where it is.
unidentified
I can't even get this thing registered.
tom segura
We'll take care of that.
joe rogan
Ari, I sent you an email.
If you email the email, I just sent you a text message.
If you email that address, they'll send you a facility code right away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tom segura
It'll come.
It'll come.
joe rogan
Just send an email to support at...
I sent you all the details.
Just say I need a facility code.
Did you buy yours on Amazon?
Me too.
They didn't send me a facility code.
bert kreischer
Are you in for a tiered financial bet for a UFC event where Joe doesn't have to work?
unidentified
I like the humiliation.
Humiliation is so much better than money.
bert kreischer
Okay, you know what?
Let's find a sweet little spot of humiliation in this for last place.
Last place has got, there's a punishment involved.
joe rogan
You gotta drink piss.
Everybody's piss.
unidentified
Shots of piss.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Goblet.
bert kreischer
Now I know why you guys are fucking friends.
No, straight from the tap.
joe rogan
Like a Yeti Tumblr.
unidentified
They just keep it warm.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bert kreischer
Hold on, we're not.
joe rogan
We'll use a JRE Tumblr and we'll write the piss champion on it.
This one right here.
We'll keep it.
We'll always keep it on this table so we'll know that the person drank the other people's piss.
bert kreischer
I'll be like fucking Forrest Gump this month.
joe rogan
Listen, man.
tom segura
Why don't you guys just come on my back?
joe rogan
I hosted Fear Factor.
I'll drink a gallon of piss right in front of your mom.
bert kreischer
You're not going to have to be the one drinking piss.
It's either Tom or Ari.
I'm worried about my friends.
tom segura
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Ari, he doesn't believe that you could ever possibly win this.
tom segura
There's no way Burt will even come in fucking third.
There's no way.
joe rogan
What do you think of this, Ari?
unidentified
Rogan, you'll win it.
For sure, you'll win it.
You're going two a day.
joe rogan
I mean, you're an animal.
But what about Burt's Mickey Mantle gene?
unidentified
That would help him.
Burt, you're on the road a lot or no?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
I'm on a cruise next week.
joe rogan
I'm gonna, I'm trying to get Bert to die trying to keep up with me.
bert kreischer
I'm gonna do four days.
I'm doing four days.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good luck.
unidentified
Yeah, you're on four days.
Okay, there's four fucking snickers to a pack.
Listen, That's fine.
joe rogan
We can do that, though.
tom segura
We'll figure that out.
bert kreischer
And then we'll add, we will come up with a, and maybe this will be fun, a very tasteful, yet meaningful punishment.
For last place.
joe rogan
Well, tasteful, you're out of Ari's wheelhouse when you say tasteful.
He wants it to be humiliating.
bert kreischer
Put a frozen hot dog up your asshole.
joe rogan
That's what he's talking about.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Thought is too slippery.
unidentified
I'm real busy up until the end of April.
From November until the end of April, I really don't have any weeks open.
joe rogan
Well, we could certainly do something at the end of April.
tom segura
We could figure it out.
Look, we'll figure that part of it out.
But you're in, right?
You're in on the bet.
Okay, that's what we need to know.
unidentified
Wait, what's the bet?
joe rogan
The bet is, first place pays for nothing, second place pays for a meal, third place pays for a lodging, and fourth place pays for a private jet.
unidentified
What's wrong with you guys?
tom segura
You're in.
bert kreischer
You're in, right?
tom segura
You're in.
joe rogan
What's wrong?
unidentified
That's humiliating.
joe rogan
But that's part of what's humiliating.
You've got to pay so much money.
tom segura
Just don't come in fourth.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't come in fourth.
bert kreischer
Enjoy those long walks in the East Village.
unidentified
Yeah, those will definitely make you win.
Shut up.
Just hang up on me.
joe rogan
How about a helicopter?
Cruise ship?
Winnebago across the country.
bert kreischer
Why's it gotta be money related?
joe rogan
It's just so dumb.
unidentified
It's just like, ah, he's right at check and doesn't do anything.
joe rogan
Makes you feel terrible.
tom segura
Yeah, but we're all like, the whole thing is that we're having fun together doing it.
It's not supposed to be like really...
joe rogan
Ari wants you to suffer.
He wants you to drink his piss.
And wear his pubes on your face.
bert kreischer
You gotta get the names of the three winners tattooed on your left, on your right hand.
On the inside palm of your right hand.
joe rogan
I'm not into that.
Yeah, but I do like the belt.
I do like the fact that we have to defend the belt.
unidentified
I like the belt or a trophy, a moving trophy every year.
bert kreischer
I like the belt.
joe rogan
That way the person who has the belt, whoever wins, they get to keep it in their house and make videos in front of the belt.
Albert is very motivated.
bert kreischer
Do you have any idea?
I'm gonna fucking murder this.
joe rogan
All the social media points he can get, stand in front of that belt, letting everybody know.
unidentified
Woohoo!
bert kreischer
And Tom will finally have a belt that fits him.
unidentified
So keep going.
joe rogan
So this has nothing to do with...
So it's not about how many calories you burn.
It's just about these weird points that this thing makes.
tom segura
Which is basically related to effort.
It's like effort points.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a good system.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
You're in, correct Ari?
unidentified
You're in.
bert kreischer
And by the way, by the way...
unidentified
I don't have any interest in going out to Vegas to get a private jet to then go to Vegas with you guys.
joe rogan
Okay, what do you want to do?
What do you think it should be?
unidentified
Some sort of humiliating thing or the rest of it.
But like, I would probably meet you guys in Vegas.
I wouldn't go to LA to then go to Vegas.
joe rogan
Tommy Buns has to leave.
We'll sort this out, but for sure there'll be a belt involved.
For sure...
unidentified
No, like the begging.
The begging for the money.
I'm...
joe rogan
We're not really interested.
That's boring to us.
bert kreischer
Ari, how about this?
Can you agree on this tiered structure if we find an event that you are comfortable and really excited about?
unidentified
An event to go to?
bert kreischer
Yeah, an event to go to.
It doesn't have to be...
I mean, I think UFC would be fun for...
I've never seen a UFC fight.
But a tiered structure of punishment, meaning for the bottom three, a humiliation for number four, belt for the winner, single day, by the way, single day calorie burn, the person with the most points for one single day, that person gets a brand new suit that all people have to pay for.
unidentified
Brand new what?
Suit?
bert kreischer
Suit, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, I got from Hong Kong to make it.
joe rogan
No, we're going to get David August to do it.
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
Only the guy who makes suits for Conor McGregor and me.
unidentified
Oh, that's nice.
I think I made suits for Mao Zedong.
joe rogan
Really?
bert kreischer
So we only make smalls?
joe rogan
Did he really?
Are you just joking?
unidentified
He's been around for like 70 years.
No, I don't think he did.
joe rogan
Wow, that would trump it.
We'll get the guy who makes suits for Putin.
bert kreischer
Maybe we'll know Kim Jong-un's guy by the end of this.
unidentified
It's just only because it's going to be anticlimactic, but you're going to go on this until probably May, at least.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that'll be fine because we'll have a belt.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
The winner will get to parade around.
Yeah, I like the suit.
Bert's already got the belt sitting on his shelf.
He's planning on doing his little Instagram stories in front of the belt.
bert kreischer
I can't wait.
joe rogan
I don't know, Ari.
Listen, man, you got a lot of resolve.
I saw how you manned up for the fucking yoga challenge.
You might man up.
By the way, I'm doing the yoga challenge, too.
I'm doing both things.
unidentified
Do you burn stuff during yoga, during hot yoga?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
I'm going to do 15 hot yoga classes as well.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I'm going hard.
I'm trying to kill Burt.
bert kreischer
I'm going hard.
I'm trying to match Joe.
joe rogan
I want Burt to try...
unidentified
In probably five years.
joe rogan
Yeah, the last time you worked out was probably when we did jiu-jitsu together.
unidentified
I mean, I did like a day at a hotel gym for like 30 minutes once, five years ago.
joe rogan
I want Bert to fall apart.
bert kreischer
I want Joe to recognize the Mickey Mantle gene.
joe rogan
That's bullshit.
Listen, I want Bert to fall apart.
unidentified
You should have already recognized it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I recognize that.
I want him to fall apart trying to keep up, though.
unidentified
Yeah, well, how's Mickey Mantle doing now?
joe rogan
He's not good.
bert kreischer
He's not good.
I just did all my measurements, my pre-sober October measurements.
Not good, Ari.
joe rogan
What do you weigh right now?
246. He's dead.
That guy's dead.
bert kreischer
246, chest 48, belly 44, waist 44, and then calves and biceps are 16, 18. What were you at the end of the weight loss challenge?
222 maybe?
unidentified
Wow.
bert kreischer
I was 216 at the end of Sober October last year.
unidentified
Wow.
bert kreischer
Yeah, I'm going back.
I'm getting back.
I'm getting back.
I'm telling you, right now I have motivation.
I want that belt.
I want that belt.
And I'm not going to pay for anything.
And I want to see the look on your face when you look at some of my numbers and you're like, what the fuck is he doing?
He's cheating.
He's cheating.
He's putting it on his dog.
joe rogan
Good luck with that.
This is my wheelhouse, motherfucker.
bert kreischer
No, I know!
joe rogan
This is my wheelhouse.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm so excited.
bert kreischer
This is not my wheelhouse.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm so excited.
bert kreischer
Dude, I'm having a hard time just taking a swimmer.
joe rogan
I want to see if I can get 500 a day.
I want to see if I can hit 500 a day every day.
I'm just going to do different things every day.
And I'm going to power fuck.
I'm going to wear it while I fuck.
bert kreischer
I'm going to be...
This is the tortoise and the hare.
I'm just going to try to tortoise my way through this month.
unidentified
Yeah.
100 minutes at 100% maximum heart rate is 400 points.
Is that right?
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
bert kreischer
Okay.
joe rogan
Is that how it works?
unidentified
It's four points a minute.
joe rogan
I don't know, but I had the shit pegged.
I was at 97% for a half an hour.
unidentified
Jesus.
I'm going to get none of that.
joe rogan
You are.
Just do it.
unidentified
I'll try, but they tell me something to facility code.
I'll be just saying, got the thing.
joe rogan
Just go fucking crazy, Ari.
bert kreischer
Teared punishment, one event we all can agree on.
Correct, Ari?
Single day, most points.
Suit, and we can add humiliation per, meaning if we come up with something during the month that we all think's hilarious, text it to each other, we put it out on social media, and we hold ourselves to that, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is what we'll do.
unidentified
You guys don't think it's going to be anticlimactic to do this bet and then have nine months later No!
joe rogan
No, because there'll be a belt.
If Burt wins, we'll never hear the end of it.
That belt will be on the shelf in front of every fucking Instagram video he makes.
He'll be like, hey, you guys might know me.
I'm Bert Kreischer, Sober October champion, or like I like to call it, Sober October.
That's going to be his, my motivation is all murder and death, and his motivation is all just going to be like Instagram stories.
unidentified
Burt, why are you scared of begging for money?
bert kreischer
I'd be amazing at that, Ari.
I remember I barked at the Boston Comedy Club, and that's my wheelhouse is talking to strangers.
You know that.
It's true.
unidentified
So why will you not do it?
bert kreischer
I would do it in a heartbeat.
I would do that for a video.
I don't care about begging for money.
joe rogan
I don't think he finds it enticing.
I get it.
bert kreischer
Okay.
joe rogan
We'll figure it out.
bert kreischer
We'll figure the tiered structure.
We'll make it so that second place doesn't play as much as third place.
It doesn't play as much as fourth place.
unidentified
Is there any way we can beat Joe Rogan?
How would that be possible?
bert kreischer
I'm definitely going for that.
By the way, Joe just made eye contact with me and I averted my eyes.
He looked at me like, are you being fucking serious?
joe rogan
I'm so excited about this.
unidentified
Joe's going to laugh.
I very first believe he's going to laugh.
Probably two of us.
Maybe three.
joe rogan
I might take the whole month off comedy.
I might work out day and night.
I might just want to see what my body can do.
I might just go really crazy.
See what happens.
I got a lot of machines here too.
I'm the only one of us that has a full gym.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can come over here anytime you like, fella.
bert kreischer
Are you talking to Ari or me?
joe rogan
You can too.
bert kreischer
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can use my gym.
Fuck yeah.
bert kreischer
I don't know how to use half those machines.
joe rogan
I'll show you how.
I'll work out with you.
bert kreischer
We can work out together.
I was actually thinking of taking my treadmill and dropping it off here.
joe rogan
It'd actually be fun to work out together.
We can make videos.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Let's do it.
Alright, let's do a workout there.
unidentified
You've got like a butter churner that you can use.
Ah, butter churner.
joe rogan
Either way, when it's over, we're getting fucked up.
So are you going to be around at all any time in November, Ari?
bert kreischer
November 5th, he said.
joe rogan
5th?
unidentified
Yeah, November 6th we can do that.
joe rogan
6th?
Okay.
bert kreischer
5th or 6th, he said.
I think 5th works for everyone.
unidentified
I'm there.
I'm there.
4th, 5th, 6th, I think.
But yeah, whatever that date is, it works for all of us.
joe rogan
Which one works for everybody?
bert kreischer
5th.
I think we all texted.
It's either the 5th or the 6th.
I think 5th works better for Tommy.
joe rogan
Okay.
That works for me, man.
The 5th is perfect.
5th or the 6th, either one.
Oh no, the 6th, I've got a show I have to do the 6th at night at 5 o'clock.
There's a television show I've got to do, but I can do the 5th.
bert kreischer
I think the 5th works better for Tommy.
joe rogan
Alright, we'll do the 5th.
So the 5th will get fucking plowed.
We're going to bring in a...
I'm going to get a kegerator.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We'll get Kegs, Tito's.
What do you need, Ari, for the fifth?
We'll get it in advance.
You like whiskey, right?
unidentified
Yeah, I love whiskey.
bert kreischer
Pappy Van Winkle.
joe rogan
What's your favorite bourbon?
Text me your favorite bourbon.
We'll get a fucking case of it.
Uber drivers?
unidentified
That's good.
Wait, no.
Who can't do the fifth?
Tom can't do the fifth.
bert kreischer
No, Tom can.
The 5th works better for everyone.
joe rogan
The 5th is everybody.
So Sober October, the 5th will be the celebration day.
And then the day where hopefully...
unidentified
No, Tom flies back on the 5th.
joe rogan
Yeah, so when he flies back, we'll get him fucked up as soon as he lands.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That works.
joe rogan
This is going to be awesome.
unidentified
That works.
Alright, I've got to plug this in.
They still have an email, but I'm sure they will.
bert kreischer
I'm going to go charge mine right now and then go put in another workout.
joe rogan
They'll email you immediately.
And if you need...
All they do is send a guy No, did you send it to the support, the email that I just sent in the text message?
unidentified
Yeah, that's what was on the thing.
joe rogan
They didn't send it?
Well, they'll send it to you quickly.
They're gonna hear about this.
First of all, they're gonna hear about this, so they're probably gonna email you quicker.
But if you have any ideas about the design of the belt, feel free to chime in there, too.
Because we gotta order that soon, because it takes like three to four weeks.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
I think it would be cool to have each of our faces as one of the side things with our thing that is hardest.
Like, you have a joint in your mouth.
I have a Tito's in my face.
joe rogan
Ari has a dick in his mouth.
bert kreischer
And Tom has a piece of cake.
joe rogan
We'll figure it out.
All right, Ari, we'll figure it out.
unidentified
Alright, guys.
bert kreischer
Love you, bye.
joe rogan
Love you, bye.
Nice.
bert kreischer
I'm so fucking excited for this.
Dude, I need these things in my life for some reason.
I can't motivate unless I have a goal.
joe rogan
It's serious motivation.
I was a little skeptical when I first thought about this, but then in using the app, while you're using the app, it's showing you your actual numbers while you're doing it.
And when you're in the middle of it, you're seeing the actual numbers take place.
bert kreischer
Really?
Did you accept my friend request?
joe rogan
I didn't know if I got it.
I have no notifications on.
bert kreischer
I just requested you and Tom.
joe rogan
Okay, I'll go in there and look for it.
bert kreischer
Should we accept other people?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
No?
Just the three of us?
Four of us?
joe rogan
Do you want to live your life like that?
bert kreischer
I don't know.
Yeah, kind of.
joe rogan
This is going to be fun, man.
bert kreischer
This is going to be really fun.
joe rogan
This is going to be a good one.
I wonder how much weight we're going to lose.
I'm like 197, 198 right now.
I think I'm going to get down below 190. Do body measurements.
bert kreischer
Because I think that's...
I did chest across the nipples, belly across the belly button, waist, and then biceps, calves, and thighs.
I'll tell you all my exact measurements right now.
I think I was accurate.
My blood pressure today was...
My doctor was calling about my blood pressure today to figure out...
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
bert kreischer
Well, no, because when I do so in October, it goes so low.
joe rogan
Is that bad?
bert kreischer
No, it's good, but I'm on medication.
He wants to kind of watch my medication so that if I... What are you on?
Losartan and loraz or some other thing.
joe rogan
Jesus.
Why are you on that shit?
bert kreischer
Because I have high blood pressure.
129 over 95 was it today.
joe rogan
But is that a natural thing that you have high blood pressure or is it because of drinking?
bert kreischer
I think it's probably lifestyle induced.
I think it's from being overweight and probably from drinking, but...
It's not bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they got you on pills?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's not good.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but it's better than a stroke.
Like, I think me being proactive and seeing a cardiologist these past five years has been the best thing that ever happened to me.
joe rogan
Right.
There are significant side effects to a lot of those things.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to look into that stuff.
bert kreischer
I'd like to get off the pills altogether.
joe rogan
I'd love it if you did.
bert kreischer
I'd like to get down.
I would like to.
I mean, we talked about it jokingly, but I'd like to get below 205. You can do it.
And keep it there.
joe rogan
Listen, man, when you got to 220, or you got to 216, you said, at the end of Sober October, what's to stop you from losing 11 more pounds?
You could do that.
Think about what fighters do.
How about my friend Cam Haynes, when he was getting down to run 240 miles, he wanted to get down to 169 or below.
So you know what he did?
He ate 2,000 calories, burned off three.
Just kept doing it every day.
So anytime people say they can't lose weight, I go, oh, you can.
You just got to be willing to do what the people that actually lose weight do.
You're hungry all the time.
bert kreischer
Losing weight's hard.
How I lose weight is not the healthy way.
joe rogan
You crash.
bert kreischer
I go, fuck it, let's drop calories below a thousand.
joe rogan
Right.
And then try to burn three.
You can't do that because we actually discussed this on a podcast very recently.
The problem is your metabolism crashes as well and your body goes into this famine mode and it wants to protect calories.
So anything you do eat, you gain back much quicker and then it's far more difficult for you to lose again because your body has a mechanism in place to protect yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because your body thinks it's, you know, we have to hold on to these calories.
It slows you down.
We were talking like one of the guys, Lane Norton, he was involved in bodybuilding and he was saying that his blinking was slower.
He was blinking slower because, you know, he's shredding, getting down to like low body weight.
Yeah.
His metabolism crashed so hard that he was literally blinking and thinking slower.
And thinking is, for you, for a comic, it's terrible!
To be thinking slower when you're on stage is the last thing you want, you know?
If you just work out like a fucking maniac and eat healthy, just cut out the sugar and the fat and all the bullshit, your body will slim down.
bert kreischer
I'm just going to go clean.
I had a nutritionist talk me through how to eat.
joe rogan
What did they say?
bert kreischer
Well, here's the thing I always had a problem with.
She was like, you need to eat before you work out.
You need a little bit of boat meal.
You need some energy for your workout.
joe rogan
You don't necessarily.
I fast cardio all the time.
bert kreischer
Well, that's why I've been doing the 16-hour fast.
joe rogan
She might be old school.
There's a lot of people that are...
Nutrition and the science behind athletic performance has changed so much over the last 5-10 years.
Just talking to some random nutritionist might not be the best person to talk to.
They might not be...
I don't want to say because I don't know her, but she might not be on the ball.
bert kreischer
I feel like I had so much information, especially when you listen to this podcast.
You get so much information.
Zach Bitter's like, you've got to go fatty meats.
And then you hear Jordan Peterson's daughter saying that.
And then you go, oh no.
joe rogan
Very specific situation.
She has severe autoimmune issues.
Severe.
She's most likely, according to other nutritionists that I've talked to, she's probably got some gut bacteria issue that she needs to get her gut biome sorted out.
It's all so above my pay grade, quite honestly.
I mean, I get interested in this stuff and I talk about it and there's some things that I can say with a certain amount of certainty, but not Really what you should and shouldn't do in terms of each individual person in their diet.
I would say, if I was you, what I would get down to is I would say definitely start eating a lot of vegetables.
That's pretty much universal.
Everybody agrees, except these crazy carnivore people.
But I think their situation is like either an elimination diet or a calorie-restricted diet, which is not really the best for performance, I don't think, for the kind of shit you're trying to do.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think broccoli, kale, spinach, all that stuff sautéed, all that stuff's fantastic for you.
Then on top of that, I mean, obviously I eat red meat.
I'm a big fan of red meat.
I think you should eat just like very nutrient-dense meat.
And I think you should take multivitamins just to cover all your bases.
You know, there's a bunch of like really good green supplements that you can add to water or, you know, little packets you can take.
bert kreischer
Do you count your calories?
joe rogan
No.
bert kreischer
So you just eat until you're full?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
How many calories do you think you eat a day?
joe rogan
I really don't know.
bert kreischer
If you had to guess, elk is pretty lean.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty lean.
bert kreischer
And it looks like you're eating maybe eight ounces of elk?
joe rogan
I probably eat a pound of that a day, for sure.
At least.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you shoot one, you have 400 pounds of meat.
I have some for you if you want.
bert kreischer
I definitely do.
joe rogan
I got a bunch of sausage.
Elk sausage is sensational.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
You love it.
You love it.
bert kreischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I got a ton of it, man.
bert kreischer
I'm definitely up for that, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
I got a bunch in the back.
bert kreischer
Okay.
joe rogan
I got these freezer bags, too, you can take it home with.
I would say just cut out the sugar in the bread and the pasta.
And if you just do that, you'll lose a ton of weight.
You lose a ton of weight just doing that.
bert kreischer
I mean, this one's going to be fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, just vegetables.
Get yourself a fucking big bowl of broccolini and cook it with butter and olive oil and put garlic salt on it.
It's healthy.
It feels good when you eat it.
Your body responds well to it.
Only good nutrients, man.
And just realize you're going to have to get a lot of rest and you're going to have to drink a shit ton of water because you're going to have to be keeping up with some terrifying numbers.
unidentified
Terrifying.
joe rogan
We're going hard this month, Burt Christy.
31 days, man.
31 days.
Yeah, the end, Ben.
bert kreischer
Oh, I'm gonna fucking look amazing.
joe rogan
You're gonna be jacked and shredded.
You're gonna be like Skinny Burt, like from that photo.
unidentified
Maybe I'll do TRT. Dude, if you win, do you know how...
joe rogan
You should do TRT. Would you ever get your hormones tested?
You should get them tested.
Just to find out where you're at.
It'll help everything.
Helps your immune system, helps your energy levels.
bert kreischer
Really?
joe rogan
Helps your concentration.
Yeah, it's literally a cognitive enhancing...
bert kreischer
So you just have like a place you can get TRT done?
joe rogan
Yeah, well you don't...
You gotta do it...
Look at that picture!
bert kreischer
Yeah, that's my 40th birthday.
unidentified
Damn.
bert kreischer
That was on my 40th birthday.
joe rogan
Look at that slender face.
See, right there, you are like five pounds from being shredded.
If you were right there and you lost five pounds, you'd have a six pack.
bert kreischer
I did that.
You're like at the cusp.
I lost that weight in 19 days.
joe rogan
Wow.
See, the problem is when you do that, the yo-yo, you're crap.
Why is a picture of me shirtless right under Bert's picture shirtless?
That's for me when I was like 26. Oh my god.
It's me on news radio.
Maybe I was 27?
Look at you.
unidentified
Sexy bitch.
joe rogan
So, yeah, the problem is losing the weight like that.
When you crash, the problem with the crash is, see, if you lose the weight over the month because you're just burning it off like a madman, but you're eating a lot, your body's not going to be in famine mode.
Your body's just going to be more efficient.
It's going to need more calories, and you definitely should lift weights.
That's one thing you should do over this month.
And lifting weights will also add to this.
My plan is lifting weights, kickboxing, running hills, yoga...
And then various cardio machines from the VersaClimber to the Rower to the Echo Bike.
I'm going to rotate them all so I can keep doing all of them.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I can do different ones.
bert kreischer
I got the Rower in my house.
I got the Assault Air Fitness Trainer.
joe rogan
Don't deny yourself any food though.
Just fucking pound food.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just pound food all the time because you're just going to be so hungry.
bert kreischer
All right.
And I think, yeah, if I do two a days.
And just go, I know what I got to get a day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Just keep going.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
unidentified
This is going to be fucking great.
joe rogan
This is going to be great for all of us.
I was thinking about that today when I was working out.
I was like, wow.
When you're looking at the numbers on that thing, it's very motivational.
bert kreischer
It's funny, before when I was in college I ran and what was really fun, they used to have these runner's journals, is to get done your run and write them in.
Like tracking your fitness, tracking your workout, it's really fun to look at numbers and stack up.
It's almost like it feels like a hoarder's vibe or like an OCD vibe.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's definitely better when it's on this app than it is if you just know you worked out.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
When Fitbit first came out, I had to get to 12,000 steps every day, and I would land from a flight, get up to my hotel room, open a bottle of wine, and just start dancing.
Fucking weird as fuck.
Like, if someone came and complained, they would think I was all meth.
joe rogan
Yeah, it feels good.
It feels good to set goals.
But I always tell people, like, one of the best ways to get things done is to write things down.
It's such a huge motivating factor.
Like, you have a list of shit that you have to do today and check those bitches off.
And then at the end of the day, you feel good.
Like, you go to bed, you feel good.
I checked off all those things on my list.
I'm better now.
I feel better than I was before.
unidentified
Yeah.
bert kreischer
My wife's a big list maker.
unidentified
Huge.
bert kreischer
When you make a list, it really does organize your day.
When I was shooting the promo thing for my tour next week, and I shot it this weekend in San Jose, and I was like, I had all these different things I needed to do, and my wife's like, make a fucking list.
And I went, oh yeah.
So I wrote down all the shots I needed that I felt like I didn't get the night before, and then just banged it out.
I was like, wow, that was fucking easy as shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so much better than trying to remember what else do I need to do, and then like half-assing it.
You know what you did that's very impressive?
You came up with a new hour pretty fucking quick.
How long did it take you to come up with a new hour?
bert kreischer
I came up with it, I don't know, maybe like February, March, April, May, June.
Six months?
joe rogan
What did you do to ramp up your writing?
bert kreischer
Super aware.
So my biggest thing for me, which I think held me back, and I've talked about this a lot, maybe a lot, but when you were in production brain, you didn't have room for comedy brain.
Like when I was making a TV show, I never didn't have the room for comedy.
And so I might be obsessed with a bolster.
There might be something wrong with me, but when I'm in comedy brain, which is when I'm doing a special, it's focused on only that material.
Like only that material.
But when I've done the special, I just went up and was like, here, it was the most enjoyable time of my life.
It's like everything was a bit.
Just walking around, I was looking for things and just being inspired by the littlest thing.
Even to this day, it's part of the reason I like to go over to New York and do podcasts and fuck around.
I was on Anthony Cumia's podcast.
I came up with two bits in the moment.
That I was like, dude, those are great.
Those are going in.
joe rogan
It's just a new environment, a new feeling.
Your brain's firing.
bert kreischer
And not denying myself the opportunity of a bit.
Because a bit is silly or goofy or hacky, in my head I go, that's okay.
Let's keep working that.
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
And so I have...
Right now I have like 55 minutes that...
That I feel is really solid, but the goal now, so like we were talking, Tom was talking about untangling it, is like weaving it in so that one bit follows the other one.
So right now I'm playing with these bits, putting them in different places, trying to figure out...
What could follow what bit?
That's the funnest part, also.
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
And then once I do that, and once I know when I'm doing my next special, that's when it almost becomes less fun for me.
It's like, I don't want to go to the store because I don't want to write new bits.
But like in the salad days when you're just all writing, I love that shit.
Just going up on stage and going in LA and be like, I bought a gun, and just going, just feeling the energy and being like, oh, I'm in it.
I don't know where this is going.
I could lose them.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
bert kreischer
No, I'm joking.
I went and bought a gun because I thought it might be a good bit.
I went and said...
joe rogan
Did you say that on stage?
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
That should be part of the bit.
bert kreischer
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
bert kreischer
Fucking done.
joe rogan
I bought a gun because I thought it would be a good bit.
bert kreischer
I was driving down Burbank, and I was like, all this gun talk, and I was like, I don't have any gun material.
I was like, I should buy a gun.
joe rogan
You should have a real gun nut on your podcast to talk to you about guns.
bert kreischer
I should.
joe rogan
You know what you should get?
Get on Coleen Noir.
bert kreischer
I did that guy.
I follow that guy on YouTube.
joe rogan
He was on my podcast.
He's a good guy.
bert kreischer
Yeah, he's great.
He happens to be black.
Fucking...
joe rogan
I'm gonna be like the progressive guy that makes it seem like there's something wrong that you're pointing it out.
Yes, he happens to be an African-American.
bert kreischer
No, but in that culture...
joe rogan
I don't know why you have to bring it up.
bert kreischer
In that culture, that is so interesting that they...
It's almost like...
Like when he had Mr. Mike on?
Magic Mike?
Not Magic Mike.
joe rogan
Killer Mike?
bert kreischer
Killer Mike on?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
It was really cool to hear their...
joe rogan
Mr. Mike.
Magic Mike.
Not white guy, Mike?
bert kreischer
It was cool to hear their perspective on it.
Culturally, you always see the NRA come from this white, redneck theme.
joe rogan
He makes real good points.
Wasn't he a lawyer?
He was a lawyer, right?
I'm pretty sure he's a lawyer.
bert kreischer
I think he was, yeah.
joe rogan
But he makes really good points in terms of personal safety and responsibility.
The thing about people who equate NRA with mass shootings and all kinds of other crazy shit, which is not really totally fair because no NRA member has ever committed a mass shooting.
Whenever something happens, they think, oh, this is all because these people want other people to have access to these kind of guns.
That's...
The real connection, as always, in ad nauseum, I've talked about this too much, is psychotropic drugs.
Those people are almost all on some sort of psych medicine.
All of them.
Is it causation or correlation?
That's the problem.
Is the psychotropic drugs causing them to do this, or are they on psychotropic drugs because they're crazy and they shouldn't have a gun anyway and it should be more difficult?
I'm 100%...
In belief that you should test people and that there should be some sort of standards in terms of mental health, in terms of whether or not you've committed assault, whether or not like those kind of things, whether or not you have a history of mental illness, whether or not you have a history of lashing out or violent outbursts.
Yeah, those kind of people shouldn't have guns.
The kind of people that think everybody should have access to a gun, I think that's a little irresponsible.
But the kind of people that think no one should have a gun, I think that's irresponsible too.
bert kreischer
That's crazy talk.
I mean, it's not going to happen in our country.
joe rogan
No, not in this one.
No.
But you should have him on, man.
Or there's other gun nuts I could turn you on to.
My friend Justin's a legit gun nut.
I don't know if you've ever met him.
Justin Collett.
He's been on my podcast before.
He's a legit giant.
He's like seven feet tall.
But he's a real gun nut.
He lives in Vegas.
He has so many guns, he doesn't know how many guns he has.
How many guns do you have?
bert kreischer
Oh, no, no.
I'm thinking of the fighter Frank Mir is a big gun guy.
joe rogan
He's a giant gun guy.
Frank Mir's strapped everywhere he goes.
He's got one in his ankle, one up his ass.
bert kreischer
Frank Mir's a really interesting guy.
Smart dude.
There's something about cage fighters...
Where they're very direct, and they say what they mean, and they mean what they say.
Tate was the first person that I ever ran into that was like that.
He texted me, and I didn't text back, and he texted again, and then he texted, hey man, I'm starting to get feelings about this.
unidentified
Text me back.
bert kreischer
And then I was like, oh yeah, Frank Mir said, he came to my podcast and we had a cigar while we were doing the podcast.
And he just, it's like, I'm such in, maybe I'm such in this weird bullshit Hollywood world where people don't mean what they say that I'm used to that.
And he goes, that was a really great cigar.
We should do this.
We should have another one.
I was like, okay.
And he's like, well, what are you doing at like eight tonight?
And I was like...
I'm here, and he's like, I'm gonna go do a podcast, and we'll have another cigar.
And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, sure.
I didn't think I'd ever see him again.
He showed back up at 7.55.
He was like, you ready for that cigar?
And we went to my backyard, and we smoked another cigar, and just talked.
And I was like, he fucking...
joe rogan
Isn't that funny that being sincere is an oddity?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the world of acting.
That's what it is.
You know, around the world of auditions, and actors, and producers, and execs.
This is a strange land we live in, man.
This right here.
bert kreischer
This shit happens in other places, but it just is very prevalent here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
Like where people just aren't genuine and they're not honest.
joe rogan
But this is like people just lick their finger and stick it out in the wind and try to figure out which way the wind's blowing and that's the way they go.
Because everybody just wants everybody to like them out here because everyone's auditioning for things.
It's just such a strange place, man.
bert kreischer
I saw my buddy Eddie is like a man, you know, a Cuban from Florida.
He'll fist fight, he's just a regular guy.
joe rogan
An actual man.
bert kreischer
An actual man.
And he came out, the first time he came out, there was a comic, I won't say his name, who was holding court at the Hollywood Improv, and he was making fun of me.
Like, as the joke, everyone was laughing, and I was laughing.
And my buddy Eddie just kind of looked sideways, and we got in the car, and he goes, why'd you let that happen?
I go, well, he's super famous.
I mean, you know, it's like, whatever.
He goes, nah, man.
Nah, he's smaller than you.
Why don't you just fucking knock him out?
And I go, that's not how it works out here.
He goes, yeah, it is.
Yeah, it is.
It does.
Let him say that shit to me.
That's how it works.
I go, no, Eddie, you gotta understand.
joe rogan
He's smaller than you.
Why does he just knock about?
bert kreischer
And he's like, dude, I don't like that disrespectful shit.
I was like, well, no, it's different out here, Eddie.
He goes, no, it's not.
It's different because you're letting it be different.
joe rogan
Well, it depends on how close you are with the guy.
Because if you're really close with the guy, and he's saying funny things, and you think they're funny, and you're laughing sincerely, like, we bust on each other all the time.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's not disrespectful.
It's just hilarious.
bert kreischer
It's just, I think it's, I think everyone knows that we're all close friends, and that's our, it's our language.
joe rogan
But there are people who are not your close friends, who's like, look at Bert over there with blah, blah, blah, and then they'll start fucking with you, and it gets a little slippery and Gross.
bert kreischer
Especially, it's narcissism.
It's guys who think they'll alpha you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bert kreischer
And it's funny, I definitely have changed from that.
When you're young and you're hungry in this business and you want to succeed, you don't want to tell a famous guy that might be able to give you work, hey man, don't talk to me like that, because then you almost blackball yourself.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, you've had some bad experiences.
We don't need to mention any names, but you've had some bad experiences with a particular comedian that was like that, where we've talked about it.
There's mentally ill people that are in this business, too.
There's that.
bert kreischer
It's tough.
I feel like sometimes I draw them in.
I talk to Stanhope about that.
joe rogan
Because you're so nice.
bert kreischer
Yeah, and I'll say this about myself.
I'm very creative and I like to fuck around.
And I think some people see that as a weakness.
There's someone that I'm told you privately that stole from me that was a friend separate.
And it...
I, man, that fucking makes me angry because I go, I remember when it happened and I'd already dealt with something else that was similar to that.
I remember I was at my wife's lake house when someone texted me and said, hey man, did you give that joke to that person?
And I was like, no.
Ooh, man, it pulled this fucking thing in my, in my id that was like, I remember thinking, do you think I'm weak?
Do you think I won't say anything?
Do you think that you can do that to me?
joe rogan
Right.
bert kreischer
And I didn't say anything.
I didn't say anything because I learned the first time around that it really, almost like all these women that come out about sexual assault, it doesn't benefit you to come out and say that someone stole a joke from you.
You just...
unidentified
Did you just equate I know.
bert kreischer
It's that coming forward thing where you look at these women and say there's no benefit and people go, oh, bitches lie.
I go, no they don't.
There's not a lot of benefit to go and say you've been raped because now you've got to fucking, that's what you're defined as.
And you've got to defend yourself from something you didn't do to yourself.
And so when you get stolen from them, obviously that is a stretch of an equivocation, but to come out and defend yourself, people do start attacking you and go, why would you even say anything?
Dude, you're just jealous.
joe rogan
Well, you have to put yourself out on a limb if you're talking about someone taking something, like a joke, from you too, because you have to hope that people side with you.
So, like, say if some famous person steals something from you, you have to hope when you come out that a bunch of people are going to jump on his side and attack you, which is totally possible.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if they do, then you're fucked.
Then you're out on a limb.
bert kreischer
Dude, I went through, and I screen-grabbed everything that was proof unequivocally.
Screen-grabbed everything.
Fuck them.
I got everything.
I'll never do anything with it.
joe rogan
But you know what, man?
The good lesson is now that person you could write off forever.
It's like...
What was it?
Was it Goodfellas?
What was it?
What was the movie?
Like, you got off light.
Like, you know, for $20 or $200, whatever it is, now that person never has to talk to you again.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're good.
You know?
Sometimes when someone does something like that, you're like, okay.
Now I can write you off.
bert kreischer
And write them off in a very interesting way as a comic.
To know, oh, you never had it, you never will.
You don't got what I have.
I can make more of that shit.
That's what I do for a living.
Oh my god, so when you really don't have any material and you don't know how to write, you don't know how to write new material.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
So that's what you can't do?
Oh, suck a dick.
joe rogan
There's two different types of mindsets.
The type of mindset where someone steals someone else's ideas and tries to pass them off as their own is kind of the opposite mindset.
To someone who's creative.
Because when you're creative, you're thinking about a bit.
You're not thinking about yourself and how the bit is going to work for you and how it's going to kill when you get out there.
But when you're stealing, say if you have a bit about lollipops, and I go, oh, I wish that was my bit.
I'm going to steal that lollipop bit.
That bit's going to kill.
And then I do that lollipop bit, and it crushes!
And I go, oh, I feel so good when I do that lollipop bit.
They get addicted to it.
That's one of the things about people that get called out for bits, and they say, oh, I'm not going to do it anymore.
And then, I heard he did that bit at the Laugh Factory.
Because they get addicted to the reaction that bit gets.
See, you're addicted to coming up with new stuff.
And I am, and the people that try to be creative, what you're trying to do is you're trying to summon these ideas out of the ether.
You're trying to pull them out of the air, and then once you have them, like, okay, I got it in a bottle, I got it in a bottle, okay, now I gotta add things to it.
unidentified
I gotta bring it alive.
joe rogan
I gotta fucking Frankenstein it.
It's alive!
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then one day, months and months later, you trot that bit out of the improv and it fucking crushes.
And that is one of the most amazing feelings.
bert kreischer
Yeah, like someone like Sam Tripoli or Bill Burr come up and go, dude, I love that new bit.
joe rogan
And just go...
You're like, it's working.
I got it.
It's popping.
We all love that about each other, too.
I love when someone's got a new bit.
And I go, is that new?
What is that bit?
You're like, oh, dude.
bert kreischer
This hour that comes out tonight at midnight, I remember watching you run it in the OR at its infancy, probably like eight months ago.
Right when I was getting ready in February, when I was getting ready to tape my special, I saw you doing yours, and I was like...
Shit, is this your new material?
And you're like yeah, I'm getting ready to film in you know a couple months and I was like oh like dude That's the greatest feeling when you sit as a comic in the back and you watch your friends just fucking murder.
It inspires you with shit you haven't heard.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, that's the best Yeah, but people that still never get that they will never get it.
joe rogan
They're missing that It's sad It's it's a sad thing because they're always gonna have to live this weird lie You know?
The weird lie of creativity.
Because creativity is so slippery.
And you can't be thinking about yourself.
That's not what it's about.
It's the opposite about that.
It's all about the idea.
It's all about how it gets to the people.
It's all about how it works.
You have to take yourself literally out of the equation.
But the people who steal, it's all about them.
It's all about them getting a good feeling doing someone else's bit.
And I really think that there's this weird balance to the world.
And I think when you do that, I think it takes away from your ability to do the other thing.
It takes away from your ability to be creative.
bert kreischer
I would almost argue I'm the exact opposite.
When a bit gets up and running and murderous, I almost feel like I'm lying to the audience.
Like I'm cheating going like...
joe rogan
You know it works.
You've been doing it too long.
bert kreischer
I have a hard time doing sets at the store when I got my hour ready.
I go, what am I going there for?
I'm stealing a spot from someone who can use it.
And I'm just going up with shit that works?
Like, oh, come on, Burt.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're giving the audience a good time, and you're keeping everything sharp.
That's the other thing.
Once a bit is done, you can't just leave it alone.
Because if I had to today go up and do my Bruce Jenner bit...
I wouldn't be able to do it.
I don't know how to do it.
I haven't done it in two years.
I literally wouldn't be able to do it.
It was one of my best bits ever, and I wouldn't know where to start.
I would have to go back, listen to it, and then I would have to go do it a bunch of times to get it polished again.
bert kreischer
It's really fun, though, when someone calls out a joke that you haven't told in years, and you're like, I did it this past week.
I do an hour 25-minute show, hour 20th show, where I do my new hour, and then at the end, whatever bits I want to hear, I'll tell.
joe rogan
That's nice.
bert kreischer
And it's a two-man show, so I have someone do 15 minutes and I do the rest.
And that way I feel like people definitely want to hear flying dildos or the machine.
And someone called out, Mexican kid in the elevator!
And I was like, whoa.
I haven't done that since my first special.
joe rogan
Do you remember how to do it?
bert kreischer
I didn't.
But I started doing it.
And I was like, and I just kind of, your muscle memory goes back in, and then you're like, and you're so much better of a comedian now, that the things that you would have never said back then, because you didn't know how to do it, you just start adding ad-libs in, and it just kills, and you're like, shit, man!
joe rogan
I had a guy come on stage once, he asked me to do a bit, and I go, I don't remember how to do a bit.
He goes, I do.
I go, get up here, bitch.
So I brought him up on stage, and I had him kind of do the bit.
I go, yeah, I remember that part.
Okay, okay.
bert kreischer
I saw some guy on Instagram.
He was doing my machine bit as a joke.
He's an open mic or maybe his 10th time on stage or whatever.
And his friends, I guess, are fans.
And he was like...
When I was 22, I got involved with the Russian Mafia.
Here's how it happened.
And they all started laughing.
He goes, I'm just kidding.
I ain't doing that shit.
But it made me giggle because he misspoke.
It's not the way I say it.
I got in a scuffle with the Russian Mafia.
And I heard something and it made me giggle.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird how people interpret, like when you do something and then people really like it and they take it and they make a clip about it or something or they add something to it or they...
One of the weirder things has been the animated shit that people do.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
See, it's just like you go...
We were talking about this the other day, that when you're in this room and you're doing this podcast, it just seems like you and me are talking.
That's one of the reasons why it works, or you and me and whoever else is here.
But for the people that hear it, the actual numbers that you're dealing with, you're dealing with millions of people.
That doesn't seem to register in your head.
And then you'll see these clips, and you'll see these memes, and you'll see these videos, and you see these animated shorts, and you see people do impressions of you, and you're like, wait, what?
What the fuck is that?
And then you see people get tattoos of your face on their ass or something like that, like on your calf.
They get you smiling, your beard on their calf.
And you're like, what the fuck?
The machine.
I saw a dude who had that Russian t-shirt tattooed on his body, the one that you made with the machine with the Russian language with you looking off into space.
I was like, whoa.
bert kreischer
It's fucking insane.
joe rogan
It's weird.
bert kreischer
That's insane.
Especially like, I mean, dude, when I saw that Joe Rogan meets Rojogan, I was just...
joe rogan
That guy's a wizard, whoever did that shit.
bert kreischer
Dude, I had gotten done a show in Oxnard and my kids were in the other room, my wife.
joe rogan
There's a new one out with you, you know.
bert kreischer
I just reposted it where Bert stops talking shit.
That made me giggle so hard.
I had just gotten high and I was in a room by myself.
My family's in another room.
I was like, dude, I hope this guy knows how much joy he just gave me.
Like, whatever I was thinking about, you know, like my set or whatever, I'm dying fucking laughing.
I was like, dude, thank you, man.
joe rogan
Well, it's the amount of effort that it takes to listen to so much audio that you can have a conversation played back and forth between a dude and his self.
Like, you know how many videos that guy must have had to listen to and how much editing he had to do to do that?
bert kreischer
Dude, I don't want to fanboy out, but I'm a huge fan.
And it cuts to you?
I was pissing myself.
I literally hit pause.
You know what, like when you get excited and you're like, I think you had sent it to me maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe.
bert kreischer
And someone sent, maybe Tommy had sent it to me.
And I immediately, it was too late, but I wanted to text everyone and go, I want everyone to see this.
And then when it cut, by the way, I'm already giggling because I'm, you know.
And then when it cut to me as the mangy chimp, I... Fucking howling.
I'm howling and I'm excited.
joe rogan
Did you see a hairless chimp?
Like, oh jeez, look at the balls on that thing.
bert kreischer
He'll rip your dick off.
He'll rip your dick off.
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
bert kreischer
That fucking...
And then when he just did the new one...
I gotta go pick up my daughter.
When he just did the new one of me drinking...
joe rogan
Jeez, it's already 2.35?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
This room's a time warp.
bert kreischer
It really is.
joe rogan
It is.
It's a time warp.
When the fuck do you ever sit down and talk to somebody for three hours?
bert kreischer
It's the best thing about these podcasts is that you literally sit and catch up and break balls and giggle, come up with brilliant challenges.
joe rogan
Dude, it's changed me.
It's changed me as a person.
My ability to communicate is so much...
I'm just so much better at it than I was nine years ago when I first started doing this.
bert kreischer
You really are.
I mean, I can say this as a fan.
I think anyone who listens—I've been listening to the podcast.
I always listen to the podcast.
You've changed immeasurably in almost the most renaissance way.
It's like you have conversations with people I wouldn't know what the fuck they even do.
But there's still hints of exactly who you are.
You're very measured in what you say and how you put out your ideas.
You listen.
You're willing to change.
I remember when you stopped saying faggot.
I remember when you were like, you know what?
I think I'm going to stop saying that in conversation.
I remember I was like, oh, that's a good idea.
Maybe I should stop too.
We were in the old Death Squad East or where West was it?
joe rogan
Oh, in Pasadena?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, the problem is it's a fun thing to say, and you don't mean it in a homophobic way.
It still is fun to say.
I still let it slip out every now and then.
bert kreischer
It aged like a fine wine.
joe rogan
It's a fun thing to say, but the problem is the way it makes other people feel is not fun.
Language should be about intent.
It should be about you're conveying your intent through a sound.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the problem is it's not working correctly.
Like if someone is hearing it on the other end and it's making them angry and you're like, but no, I'm silly.
I'm being silly about it.
I'm a silly faggot.
They're like, no, no, no, you can't.
Like, okay, well, it's not.
This is an ineffective use of sound to convey my thoughts.
Yeah.
Is it worth it to piss people off?
You know, is it worth it?
Like, look what happened with Tommy and the word retard, which he's not calling anyone that.
The bit is about forbidden language.
And he literally, all he said in that bit was that you're not allowed to use that word anymore.
And in saying that, there was massive protests.
There was all these people freaking out because they don't even want you to utter the sound.
It's a real problem because That kind of thinking is nonsense.
To say that it can't be used ever, that you can't admit that it's a word, like you cannot say it, you cannot utter it, that it's abracadabra, that it's a magic word.
You can't even bring it up in conversation to understand that we are changing, so this word, whatever the word is, that you can't say it anymore.
Remember when they were trying to get rid of bossy?
Do you remember bossy?
bert kreischer
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were trying to say that bossy is a sexist word.
You shouldn't use bossy.
They abandoned it.
But it's that point, is that they'll try to find something to be offended by, and they'll try to put whatever that word is into this forbidden category.
And then you can have so many words in that category, then it's going to be crazy.
And then you have noises that you can't make.
I think the real thing that's going to change, and I really think this is going to happen, is we're going to figure out a way to bypass language.
There's going to be a way to directly convey information to people without language.
And it's going to happen through some sort of technology.
And Elon Musk was talking about it on the podcast.
There's something called Neuralink that he's working on that's some sort of really revolutionary way to increase bandwidth between you and ideas and how ideas get to your head.
It's going to be something that you wear.
I think that's gonna be like step one and then you're gonna be able to do that from person to person and I think you know all this we're so invasive now with social media like it's so and cell phones and electronics everything is in your life and people are getting closer and closer to each other and One of the side effects is that of that is that people now realize they can hurt you so they can attack you easier and they can And they can tear things down.
They can light things on fire because they can.
Not necessarily because it's a wise thing or it's a measured thing or it's a really well thought out thing.
They're doing it just because it's a new thing that they can use.
Like you gave a chimp an AK-47 and they just started shooting up the jungle.
I mean literally that is what a lot of people are doing with social media.
But I think that is just a stage and that eventually we're going to bypass language.
I really think that.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think it's going to be like emojis.
And we're going to communicate through like a form of hieroglyphics almost.
bert kreischer
This is a conversation I need to have on November 5th when I'm high.
joe rogan
We're going to be baked.
Baked, drunk, fucked up.
November 5th.
bert kreischer
I can't fucking wait.
joe rogan
Let's wrap this up.
So we kind of have a parameter.
We'll figure it out as we go along.
bert kreischer
I've got it written all right here.
I'll take a picture and leave it here.
joe rogan
All right.
bert kreischer
But...
joe rogan
And then we'll figure out the belt.
bert kreischer
Dude, this is awesome.
joe rogan
This is awesome.
It's going to be awesome.
The belt's going to be the shit.
Because we're going to have that belt every year.
bert kreischer
I can't fucking wait.
joe rogan
I'm going to get a deluxe belt, too.
Fat leather, brass, beautiful.
Alright.
bert kreischer
Your special tonight at midnight.
joe rogan
Yeah, midnight tonight.
It's called Strange Times.
bert kreischer
It's fucking amazing.
That's where we live in.
I saw the material at the store.
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Thanks, brother.
bert kreischer
I'm so excited for you, man.
joe rogan
I'm excited, too.
Nervous, too.
Bye, everybody.
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