Kyle Kingsbury and Joe Rogan explore Space Force’s origins, linking Trump’s 2018 proposal to political strategy while critiquing his immigration policies and environmental risks—like earthquake-prone oil pipelines. They debate nuclear waste cleanup via Paul Stamets’ mushrooms and genetic plant hybrids, then dive into extreme biohacks: Kingsbury’s altitude training, creatine use, and microdosing LSD (200mcg) with cacao in Sedona, claiming mitochondrial boosts without side effects. Rogan counters skepticism on psychedelics, citing ayahuasca’s unpredictability and ketamine’s trauma-breaking potential, but warns against forced control. Their discussion reveals how radical health regimens—like Dry Farm Wines’ ketosis-driven workplace—could reshape productivity, while exposing martial arts frauds like McDojoLife underscores the dangers of unchecked dogma. Ultimately, they argue that ancestral adaptation, guided experimentation, and surrender to experience may hold keys to both physical and mental evolution. [Automatically generated summary]
When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. it is not enough to merely have an American presence We must have American dominance in space.
Very importantly, I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon To immediately begin the process necessary to establish a Space Force as the sixth branch of the Armed Forces.
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That's a big statement.
We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal.
He's got the face of a guy who knows he's going to be the president.
Like, if you were about to be awarded something, like if there was some, uh, something you were about to get, and you're like, wow, I worked my whole life for this, and here it is.
I'm gonna get that thing right now.
I'm gonna be the fucking president.
He must be like, this guy is never gonna last eight years, and for sure he's gonna win again.
You know, like, one guy's getting bullied, bullies got the crowd watching him, and the other guy's like, well, but, but, you're, you're, fuck you, man.
You know, and everybody's like, oh, that ain't gonna work.
It's gonna be a hard sell to put some guy in there like Bernie Sanders who, you know, all the right-wing people think just wants to give away all your money.
I should point out, I know jack shit about politics.
This is very important to point out.
Anybody that ever says you shouldn't be talking about politics, that's crazy.
Because anybody should be able to talk about whatever they want.
What I shouldn't do is give anybody the impression that I know what I'm talking about, because I definitely don't.
Like, if you had to get me to explain to you how Congress and the Senate works and how long the terms are and what they have to do, that'd be a sloppy-ass fucking conversation, right?
I'm no political expert, you know?
Mike Pence is no MMA expert.
You know what I mean?
He probably could tell you who Conor McGregor is.
That's probably like, we have equal knowledge in government.
What do you think of The Rock potentially becoming president one day?
That shit blew up, and I was like, wait a minute now.
If you look at the current state, and it is a popularity contest, and we want somebody who can literally rock the mic, has the gift of gab, but then you also have somebody who's doing humanitarian shit, is...
But a lot of people would want her to be president.
Oprah to be the first female president to counter like the the first celebrity president being Trump Oprah counters that with the first female celebrity president See, that's a big win.
That's what's going to be, I mean, how we're going to try to play this out, how people are going to play this out, the popularity contest aspect of it.
Because it's just, okay, if it really devolves into that, you know, it's like, and here's the other thing.
But what stuff have they implemented other than I know they did offshore drilling, right?
That concerned a lot of people.
And it was explained better to me about the monuments and the private land.
I've read a bunch of different, and public land rather, I've read a bunch of different takes on that.
And essentially what they did is bring it back to where it was before the Obama administration changed it.
So it was listed a certain way, and then when the Obama administration changed it, they felt that was an overstep.
Don't know why and it doesn't seem to be They haven't started any like mineral drills or oil drills or anything in these areas.
I don't know what they're doing I don't know.
I don't know if they're really just trying to deregulate things more They feel like the government overstepped their boundaries or if they really have nefarious ideas They're trying to like figure out a way to get some oil out of a salmon River Yeah, man, I mean there was that one place we've discussed it before Up in Alaska where a lot of people were concerned that there was going to be some drilling that takes place near where salmon live.
Like, close enough that if it fucked up, it could destroy this river.
Because if we don't do anything about it, like, say if you put a pipeline in the earth, and you pump oil through it, and we don't do anything, we just leave it there.
Just leave it there.
And we don't, you know, we don't visit it for 5,000 years.
What's that gonna be like?
So what does that mean?
It means you gotta keep fixing it?
Okay, so you put a hole, you put a giant tube through the earth and you're pumping toxic ooze out of this tube.
And sometimes it gets into rivers and it fucking kills everything.
The study, written by two leading U.S. Geological Survey scientists in Pasadena, shout out to Pasadena, and be published in the Bulletin of Seismic Society of America on Tuesday, also suggests that three other earthquakes, including magnitude 5.0 earthquakes in 1920 in Inglewood and 1929 in Whittier, may have also been linked to oil drilling.
That was at 17. He's 22 now, or 23. That's insane.
But he can take the used reactors and basically like a handheld battery, like you'd have on an RC car, that can power an entire city for 10,000 years, each one of those.
I'm saying though, that's what Shane Smith was saying.
This guy has that technology and of course...
To get a little Eddie Bravo-ish, there's big companies that don't want to see that happen, but he's supported by Elon Musk and other other big-time dudes that want to see it happen.
I don't know if once those nuclear reactors get up and running, like the old-style ones, like Fukushima, I don't know if they have a way to shut those down.
Ironically enough, I think they need power to shut them down.
Wasn't that like a big part of the problem with Fukushima?
Where they couldn't cool it?
They couldn't keep it cool?
Dude, they can't shut them off.
Like, that is the craziest...
They've only had them for...
If you stop and think about the amount of time humans have been alive.
I know here they have mixed trees, but they're from the same...
Phylum?
I don't know if that's right.
They're close enough genetically related, but you'd have like one base of the tree that has the roots, and then different branches on that tree grow different fruit.
And you can have four different fruit styles on one tree, like peaches, plums, apricots, all from one tree.
Like all the carbon in the air, carbon dioxide, all the fucking, just all the people breathing.
Everyone around you, there's so many people.
Everyone just breathing, you know?
You're in like a soup of people breathing on the subway and in buildings and, you know, people are so jammed next to each other while they're walking by.
They're just breathing each other's air.
That is such a weird way that people have decided to live.
Well, you know, I've tried to figure this out myself because my grandparents were immigrants, but I figured the way I was thinking it is like if you really thought about the kind of people that were taking a chance to come across the ocean and get here in like 1920, These were wild, desperate people.
This was a different kind of human.
They're a wilder type of human being.
And then to go from that wild type of human being to a regular person in 2018, it's only been a couple of generations.
Those places is where the people stayed.
So the people landed there first.
And then all the Polish and the Jewish and the Italian and the Puerto Ricans and all these different fucking ethnic groups just piled in together, just buzzing.
And a lot of people went, let's go west.
Let's fucking go west.
And they landed over here.
And this is why California is quite a bit more mellow, quite a bit more laid back.
And even the comedy, the comedians are more friendly.
But there is a great roast battle scene up here, too.
That'd be awesome, though, to be a fly on the wall watching a bunch of comedians just talk shit to each other, not even worried about other people, not trying to make anybody laugh but themselves.
And he would just, whatever it was, he would just start ranting about it and get angry, and then he'd go on stage like at 10. So it could be anything, man.
It could be a fucking TV show that Tahani doesn't like.
It could be the pair of sneakers you're wearing.
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It could be, I don't like the way you're doing your notes.
There's a lot of stuff in here that I have no idea what the fuck I wrote.
But occasionally, I feel like one day I'm gonna wise up, and I'm gonna go in here, and I'm gonna go over these notes, and something's gonna make some sense.
I mean, I have two journals that I use for psychedelic ceremonies, shit like that.
And then my desk is...
It's kind of a fucking joke.
I mean, it's just covered in post-its.
And I'll just jot shit down on who I'm going to have on the podcast or the supplement that I want to try, what dose that I tried it at, that kind of shit, since I'm kind of the office guinea pig.
Yeah, I mean everything seems to be in working order.
That's a weird thing to want to be able to do too.
Carry the most weight with your pussy.
How did it go from that being a thought in your mind to one day I'll be the queen, one day I will carry the most weight, to like putting it on YouTube and figuring out a way to put it on YouTube where you have pants that have a hole in them.
We used to train with him at Eddie's place, and he'd mount you.
And he had that fucking steel cup, and it would be like he was crushing your sternum with his dick.
It was uber uncomfortable.
It was not fun.
He was very good at that.
He would get mount on you and just crush you down like you...
And it's like...
Unnatural leverage in arm bars as well.
When you go over that steel cup, you got a metal thing that you're bending someone's arm against.
It's a big deal.
It's a really big deal if you think about it.
I mean, you would think like, wait a minute, even a regular arm bar, hold on, you're pulling his arm into your balls?
Like, what the fuck?
Yeah, you are.
Your dick and balls are resting on someone's arm when you give them an arm bar.
That is just a fact.
If you don't like that fact, your goal, in fact, is to get your dick and balls to rest on this guy's arm.
But you're not thinking about that.
You're thinking of getting your hips down on him, getting that arm in between your legs, or getting that arm in between your arms and your legs, extending your body.
But if you have a...
You got this crazy fulcrum.
You got this weird leverage point.
It's made out of metal.
It's a fucking metal piece.
So instead of having vulnerable balls, you have this thing.
But when I run with five finger shoes on, a trail run with those things on, I feel like my foot is moving just a wee bit more than even regular barefoot shoes.
Something about having all those little fuckers free like that.
And they're feeling the dirt the way they're supposed to.
Like, they're moving together the same way your hands move together when you fall on gravel or something like that.
Your hand, you know, it moves together.
It's thinking of how to cushion blows and how to stop something that's coming your way and how to interact with space, whereas your foot is just kind of clubbing the ground all the time.
I feel like with those shoes, the one thing I'm aware of is that the foot is acting like all the little individual muscles are helping to push me around.
The knee didn't hurt like I thought the fucking injection was gonna hurt like they're gonna wiggle it in with some long ass needle But that wasn't bad the pressure once it goes in that fucking hurt Stem cells fix my left knee.
Greenfield was saying that he had the mitochondria, the telomere lengths, when they check his telomere lengths, that his biological age is 20. So he went, he started, and listened to him.
And his biological age was 36 and his chronological age was 34. And I'm like, this motherfucker who was homeschooled K through 12 and is an Ironman triathlete is two years older biologically than chronologically.
Where the fuck am I? I went to ASU, did all the bad drugs, been hit in the head fucking countless times.
It's gotta be bad.
So at 35 when I did mine, Biological age of 41. And I'm like, fuck!
But right after he did the systemic stem cells through the IV, that dropped him from 36 to 20 years old biologically.
Well, yeah, and then all the shit, you know, it's funny because...
What are the drawbacks?
I have a certain amount of followers online.
Then, you know, you go to a company like Onnit, and you have...
It's magnified, right?
By 100, by 1,000, whatever.
And, you know, anytime I post shit, because I'll do stuff online for like the biohack of the week or the life hack of the week, and sometimes it's just run-of-the-mill, you know, go for a fucking farmer's walk with some weights in your hand, or keep a kettlebell in your trunk, and then you can always work out.
Or sometimes it's more technology-based, and we get a lot of shit on anything technology-based.
And, of course, the argument then is...
Well, I believe I can get everything I need from a good diet and good nutrition and movement, and I don't need to inject shit to be healthy.
And it's like, yeah, but...
I like Greenfield's model.
You have one foot in ancestral living and one foot in the benefits of modern science.
Dude, I took a photo of Jake Tapper on TV when the results were being read because he was doing one of them to report things and he had, through the entire election, he was like, really...
Very, very obviously in angst at the thought of this guy being president.
And then when he finally became president, Jake Tapper's face is just like, it's so classic.
It's one of those moments where you're like, Jesus Christ.
I'm never going to forget that guy's face when Trump was elected because it was just like, what the fuck is this?
I've been using one milligram THC spray and I microdose cannabis.
Fairly often, just in the evening, and it helps with sleep.
But this MDMA, man, it's a whole fucking different ballgame.
I think you should try, if I can request, at some point, you try the pharmaceutical-grade MDMA just to know what it's all about.
Because Rick Doblin was saying, you give it space, like you would with a classical hallucinogen.
You're not supposed to fucking go back to work the next day or do a bunch of bullshit, tedious, drawn back into the real world.
Give it space, journal, meditate, throw on some easy listening music, and rest.
And if you do that, you're fine.
Because in their protocol, they're not allowed to use anything else but the MDMA. So I asked him, like, why don't you guys have a protocol for 5-HTP, vitamin C, different things we know help build back the neurotransmitter support you may have lost.
And he said, just with the finagling with the FDA and everything they have to go through, he says, it's fucking impossible.
But if we give them that day off...
They're gold.
And then, of course, New Mood, plug on it again, was designed for that experience to be able to curtail any kind of comedown.
I've had zero issues after using the pharmaceutical grade.
Yeah, it's a smart way to approach MDMA, to stock up, to have a bunch in your system so your body's going to have to build this shit up again because you're going to flood it with it for a while.
So you're going to have this weird little period where your body's going to struggle...
But it's a thing that I would hope, if these studies do continue to prove without a doubt that it's beneficial to a lot of these people, that they make it available to more people.
Do you think that it's possible to train your brain to produce more of it?
Do you think through meditation and mindfulness and all these different practices that people do to stay present, to be more open and more loving, that you could build that up almost like a muscle?
It's crazy to think what we understand about the various pathways these chemicals have to go through and then what is like still Confusing like here's the big one.
Where's the where's the consciousness coming from exactly?
How does it all become the thing that's looking through kyle kingsbury's eyes and seeing me and mine looking at you?
What's exact?
What's what is that thing?
What is that thing that seems to be like almost like a Like an energy that runs through this machine.
If I'm being honest, I think it's going to get worse.
You look at the way we live, and the closer and closer you've spoken about that, we were just talking about fucking New York.
We're not meant to be that confined.
We're not meant to sit out.
We're withheld from the fucking sun right now.
So many of these things communicate with our bodies.
I'm working with a genetic specialist, Ryan Frissinger.
He was on Chris Ryan's show.
Sunlight influences 500 on-off switches on our epigenetic level.
For the good, unless you fucking overdo it, right?
500. 500 plus on-off switches in our DNA are affected by sunlight, positively, right?
I mean, they look at vitamin D3, take that for example, they're calling that a hormone now, not a fucking vitamin.
Really?
Because it's a messenger.
That's how much it influences in the body.
Incredibly important.
So when you think about all these things like being barefoot, being connected to the earth, going in the fucking ocean, Science will catch up in certain ways, but we get fixated on the thing.
We get fixated on our phones, on whatever TV is going on.
We're closed off from other people.
We think, you know, communicating through Facebook is the same as being fucking face-to-face.
It's not.
You know, the more we head that direction and we're putting, you know, as you put it, putting fucking shit food in our body for mouth pleasure, that influences the brain.
Right?
80 to 90% of all of our neurotransmitters are made by the bacteria in our gut.
So you think the shit meal is just going to put on five pounds.
It's not.
It might put on five pounds, but it's going to fuck your brain up for a while.
You make it a little bit more emotional.
Fuck with your sharpness, your memory recall.
All that's impacted.
Sleep's impacted.
I wish Michael Walker talked a bit more about that.
Everything he talks about, like that shift that happens in adolescence where you become a night owl, no doubt.
And I probably still could stay out a little bit later until having a kid, and then that's your immediate reset to, bitch, you're getting up when the sun comes up.
Yeah, I don't think you can say it's just this one thing like, well, if you just ate clean or if you just went keto or you just ate paleo, then you wouldn't have depression.
Yeah, I've known of quite a few people that got fucked up on pills after operations or injuries or stuff like that, but I know quite a few of them that kicked it, you know, that just realized it was happening.
Like, Schaub talked about it quite a bit.
When he fought Cro Cop, his nose was destroyed, so they had to rebuild his nose and he started taking pain pills.
And he said after a while, he's just taking them every day just because he wanted to take them.
And then his friends came over and cleaned out his medicine cabinet and went, cut the shit, dude.
Four months later, you're still taking these things all day long.
You can't do that anymore.
And he's like, whoa.
He said he almost didn't even realize he was doing it.
So I think that so even for you they have the same reaction that like an oxy would have yep, and I've had I mean in college I did some weird shit.
I keistered an oxy once and Felt fucking for the folks not learned in the ways of the dirty dogs He put it up his asshole two knuckles deep not super keyster knuckles deep people that people are like what keistered It's a big guy.
Last time when I was on your show, you were like, oh, you lost me when you told me the trees started talking to you when I was describing an ayahuasca experience.
That'll be the one this time.
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You lost me when you talked about putting a pill up your ass.
So, but that ultimately, that was like, well, yeah, there's still, thankfully, I still have this fucking regulator in my body that says, don't put these fucking super addictive man-made chemicals in your body.
At one point in time, I don't know if it's still the case, but Miami had more banks per capita than any place else in the country.
Because everybody was just laundering coke money.
And coke was just coming in like crazy.
There's so many great documentaries on it.
It's a really, really fascinating time in history.
Cocaine Cowboys once, shout out to Billy Corbin...
The first one, they talked about how many of these police officers wound up dead or in jail.
And it was like an entire class, graduating class, either was dead or in jail for corruption by the time they had made this time period, however many years it was, of this cocaine trafficking.
They would fight less because Mexico would have its own production.
But, I mean, they said it was growing in a place that wasn't the same altitude, and obviously cocaine is an alkaloid that is really, it grows at altitude, so you want that environmental stimulus for that.
You want the hormetic stressor in order for it to produce more cocaine pound for pound, and I think it would produce far less.
That's at least what they were saying in the article, which makes sense to me.
And it was kind of tied in with the stem cells, really, to just be in a state of allowing and whatever subconscious level of accepting this foreign substance into your body, let's kind of move the needle on that.
It's, you know, it's kind of like LSD. You have a microdose of LSD. Completely different experience than a full hit or two to five to whatever.
All different experiences.
You know, if you take like a key bump, a key bump for people with the lack of the terminology would just be like the end of a key is worth.
Key bump?
Into a bag.
You just quick little snort.
Okay.
It's very relaxing.
You want to move.
But if you push the envelope a little bit, because it's disassociative, it's very disorienting.
Like, I don't know where the fuck I am or what's going on.
If you go really far, it's similar to injecting it, where you go in the K-hole, you're kind of paralyzed, and close your eyes, you're in a different spot.
At one point by the end he was so hooked on it that he would run an IV so he could stay on 24 hours in there.
But you know, I was telling you about that book that he wrote, The Center of the Cyclone.
Yeah.
That was a fucking fascinating book because he would get, as a medical doctor, 300 He'd get ampules of 300 IU from Sandoz Pharmaceuticals, a pharmaceutical-grade LSD, do that intravenous, then get in the float tank for 10 hours.
And the trip reports he has, when you read these, they're very ayahuasca-esque, like talking to other beings and other consciousness, DMT-like experience, but 10 hours, not fucking 15 minutes.
Just fastening like he's and as a doctor so with detailed in his explanation of what he's seeing what it means to him Pretty fucking cool That's an experience that once you know that you can have I don't know that if I I would have a real hard time Fitting into regular life.
If I knew that I could just have that 10-hour, like the DMT flash of 15 minutes of the weirdest interactions with whatever they are, whatever those things are, when you come back, imagine that for 10 hours.
It might, you know, it might just change everything about your perceptions of life.
You might just give up on civilization and move to the forest or something.
And that's exactly what happened to the Unabomber.
You know, the Unabomber is a part of the Harvard LSD studies.
And then afterwards he went to be a professor at Berkeley so he could save up enough money so he could buy a fucking house in the woods and blow up the people that are creating technology.
Because the technology is what's going to supplant human beings.
It's gonna gonna take over usurp our position on earth or some crazy shit And he just decided he was gonna kill all these fucking scientists and remember that he was like yeah, but that's not That's an odd take I had a different take on technology in an ayahuasca ceremony where I saw...
I'm reading The Tipping Point from Malcolm Gladwell, and hearing him do the audio part is great.
Because he's very passionate about the subject matter and he's the guy that wrote it and so him reading out these results and all these different facts and really fascinating things about the tipping point and you know certain trends is Stephen King is like he's a brilliant brilliant writer like one of my favorite writers for sure my favorite horror writer I loved his shit like I used to read him when I was taking the train to go to taekwondo practice I would read Stephen King books all day long.
That's all I'd read So I was always a giant fan as, but as a professional actor, perhaps do a more spirited job.
Well, especially when telling a story, this is my thing.
You need someone who has a very good sense of theater, like the way they communicate the words, the way they say the words, the emphasis they put on each individual word, especially with fiction.
Yeah, if he was reading something, they'd be like, excuse me, Mr. Marcus, we're going to have you go ahead and reread, starting at the top of the page.
It sounds like your mind's in a different place.
They would catch everything, every influx, because he's got to read far ahead, you've got to know where you're going with it, all that shit.
Maybe they've changed over time with their approach to that.
Well, I think it's probably completely different for different subject matter.
Aubrey's book is obviously a self-help book, Own the Day.
but other books that are stories about like monsters or some shit like that like what's required of the the guy reading and has to have a sense of theater he's telling a story there's got to be a the pauses have to be like a professional like a professional voice actor those that's what you want for those things yeah they're better at it they're just Stephen King's a wizard at writing I mean he's fucking phenomenal but I don't want to hear him doing different voices and shit like it's just too weird You know,
he's got a great book, though, and it's great not just for writers, but for everybody.
It's Stephen King on writing.
It's really interesting, because there's a lot of his life and work philosophy in the book.
And I feel like when I read about someone who is, in my opinion, a One of the greatest contributors to, like, fun books and fun horror movies.
I mean, he's an all-time king to me.
And so to be able to say, like, well, what was going on in that guy's head as he was writing Carrie?
Like, how did he conceive of Christine?
Like, what's his process?
What's his process for writing?
It's really interesting, man.
First of all, he doesn't even know what the fuck he's gonna write.
When he starts something, he doesn't know where he's going.
He just does it.
And as he's doing it, he figures out where it's going to go.
That's part of the genius of his method, is that it's not like this sort of like...
Yeah, Bob is going to get bit by the snake, and then Bob's going to turn into a horse, and then all this stuff is going to happen, and then his wife's going to fall in love with that horse, and then he's going to be mad when he becomes a person again.
He just goes with it.
He just shows up every day and just puts in the time and focuses on it and then makes it happen.
What a crazy way to make a living.
To just invent stories and weird things that happen and just put it all together in your head and then give it to people like, look what I've done.
I came up with a story and then you open it like, fuck, where's the story going?
This story's crazy.
It's a really interesting way to make a living because he's using, like he's flexing one very specific part of his brain that Most people don't really use it all, or hardly ever use.
There's a good book, PEMF. I forget the author, but I think it has to do with that.
I think it has to do with that.
So you really do feel that energy there.
It's palpable and it's not fucking make-believe.
So knowing that we'd be in this special place, Knowing that I'd be with some really interesting people and that if I was to take some medicine at that point in time after fasting for four days.
And I won't mention anybody else that had it with me just because maybe don't sign off on that kind of shit publicly.
But we hiked to the top of the Cathedral Rock and it's fucking incredible.
I mean, incredible.
And another buddy of mine who's a teacher at Black Swan Yoga, he brought up some really good cacao from the chocolate, but pure fucking cacao from Guatemala.
Now, could people just go buy cacao and micro-dosed MDMA? Well, you got to order it offline or online and do the preparation properly, but I mean, there's no doubt you feel different.
It's warming, you feel more loving, you're sensitive to touch.
I mean, think of how much fucking creativity, how much thought and imagining scenarios and putting them all together that it takes to make, like I saw The Incredibles 2 yesterday.
I think it's a smart play if you're a person in his position to say, like, look, I'm just an advocate for the science.
But as Rick Doblin says, when this stuff becomes available to people, it's never going to be you go fill your fucking prescription of psilocybin at Walgreens and you can go fuck off anywhere you want.
They'll have facility centers where people can go and it'll be guided, the right circumstances, set and setting will be paid attention to.
But in that experience, It shouldn't just be for sick people.
It shouldn't just be for people with depression or PTSD or some type of, you know, rape victims.
Fill in the blank.
It should be healthy individuals that also want to have a deeper connection and to figure shit out and have new perspective in life, right?
And Poland, I would qualify as that.
I think he's a healthy guy.
Heart shit aside, he's a healthy guy who wanted to have an experience that would draw him in a little deeper so he could understand.
And now when you listen to him talk about it, there's no doubt he's fucking sold on it.
Yeah, I think what you're saying is really important because I don't think there should be any restrictions on something that's super beneficial.
If there's no real indications that it's hurting these people, and it's all these indications that it's helping these people, especially when it comes to trauma.
Look, man, There's certain people that for sure have experienced way more trauma than others.
There's certain people that have been to war.
They've lost friends.
They've been involved in car accidents.
There's certain people that have been through things that are just horrific and almost impossible to forget.
And that is a fact that they should have access to this medicine.
But just because, like, some girl lived her life and didn't have anything traumatic happen to her, and she's trying to find her way in this world, and she's trying to figure out, you know, what is insecurity?
Or what is my connection to these people?
What are my real passions and drives in life?
She says, I'm gonna take some sort of a...
MDMA, Molly trip and find out how I feel about things.
Find out if it gives me anything.
She should be able to do it too.
She should be able to experiment with her brain and see, like, hey, all these people are reporting super positive experiences.
What, am I supposed to ignore it?
Because some bureaucrat has decided for whatever connection they have to some pharmaceutical companies that you fucking keep this gate tight on making anything legal.
Anything you make legal is going to fuck with my bottom line.
And that's what a lot of people think.
And so there's this weird sort of disconnect between the people that want the drugs and the people that won't let you have the drugs.
Like, who are you working for?
The people that won't let us have the drugs?
And why do these other people that don't want the drugs think the drugs are bad?
Do they have any pot experience themselves?
No.
Well, then you can't vote about pot, you fuck.
You know, I mean, that's crazy, right?
You shouldn't be a doctor unless you go to med school.
You shouldn't talk about driving a car if you've never driven a fucking car.
You don't have a seat at the fucking table to tell me what my ayahuasca experience is unless you've done it.
You don't get a seat at the table.
You don't get to tell me it's some neurochemical reaction, and this is where it fits in the brain if you haven't had that experience.
You can't tell me that that's...
And that's what's...
The one thing that's fucking odd, at the very least, when people go through these experiences, and Poland talks about this too...
It's how real it feels.
It's how important it is and how much meaning they have, right?
Nobody's gonna fucking tell me that my ayahuasca experience didn't mean shit.
I saw, you know, in one of them, my wife and I shared the same vision of holding a child.
And the next experience we saw it was a boy and fucking all the fear of being a parent came up and Less than a month later We were pregnant with bear like that's as real as it fucking gets and it manifested after that Coincidence or not.
I think most people run into the issue, you know, they want to alter their consciousness, and they'll take a substance thinking like, this is going to make me feel a certain way, and then all of a sudden they've got to deal with some shit.
They've got to work through something, and that's not what they had on their radar.
It makes you wonder what the guys who created yoga were doing.
I think I think those people like those people that learn how to do those long Holding poses that they were practicing it.
There's a lot of belief that those people were eating a lot of hash Like especially the the earliest people that were that created it and they were Soma whatever the fuck Soma was you ever hear references to Soma?
I don't I don't think they know what that is some sort of a psychedelic but that whole Practice of yoga, if you really think about it, a lot of what yoga is, you have to just breathe and just concentrate on maintaining the pose.
You have to put yourself into this surrender zone.
You can't fight a position.
You just kind of accept it and just concentrate on breathing and hold it as long as you can until your body starts giving out and then you let it go again.
But I think that prepares you in some way to let go in psychedelic experiences.
I think that people that don't have any...
If you don't have any kind of physical altercation with your body, there's no moment where you're like, come on, man, come on, breathe, breathe, breathe, go, go, go.
If you don't have any of those, if you never...
I mean, I don't give a fuck what you're doing, whether it's a spin class or just...
If you never have anything where you're pushing yourself when you don't want to do it, but you make yourself do it and then you did it.
If you don't have those, like those little...
Moments where you overcame something that feels uncomfortable.
Then those bends in the trip road are scary dark.
Because you don't have any success in coming back from bad states.
You don't have any success in coming back from feeling really scared or feeling really nervous.
Those build up a database.
If you don't have a lot of success in doing those, or especially success in getting your body to just fucking relax.
Just fucking relax.
It's just a broken leg.
If you don't have that in you, it's probably real hard.
To navigate some of the darker roads of a trip, where you just have to just kind of just breathe and just try to stay as calm as you can.
If you put yourself in uncomfortable, stressful spots in everyday life, like a cold bath or the cryo, and you can stay calm in the fucking eye of the storm and come out of that...
Yeah.
You're a little bit more chill.
It's not that big of a deal.
And same thing in the psychedelic experience.
You go through some rough shit.
You come out of that.
Okay.
All right.
I still have my body.
I was able to work through that.
Now it kind of lowers the noise on all the bullshit in life.
I think there's something to what you just said about doing cryo, too.
Cryo does make you chill out after, I mean, for lack of a better term, no pun intended.
But everything's so elevated after you get out of there, you feel so good.
That's a feeling that, like, if there was a way to do that in a spray, if you could buy that feel-good spray at 7-Eleven and give yourself a couple pumps, the same way you feel right after cryo, it would hit you and be like, whoa!
You just get this, ooh, you come out and all of a sudden your body feels warm again.
You feel great.
It's a nice little trick.
It's a very nice little trick.
And it helps so many people in so many different ways with arthritis and people who have constant inflammation and back problems and knee problems.
It's just, there's such a good way to just give your body just a little extra reduction in inflammation.
They're studying at one minute at 60 degrees, or 10 minutes at 60 degrees, one minute at 30 degrees, and then they're trying to There's going to be more science that comes out on different, because I want to know, like, how long at 40?
How long in the cryo?
How long does it...
But we know there's some type of neurochemical response from it that you feel, right?
Anchorage is like a real spot, like a real city, sort of.
I mean, real nice bars and restaurants and shit like that.
But these shows about those people that live up there, those are all the people that live in, like, the Arctic Circle area, and they chop their own fucking firewood and fight wolves off and shit, like...
There's this one dude, we've talked about him several times in the podcast, that lives by himself.
He's the weirdest of all the weird people.
Because all these other people live in regular houses, and they just live in a house that's connected to this river, and they take their dogs dog sledding, and they do all this shit, but they live in a normal house.
They go into a house.
This motherfucker has like this tiny shack and he lives right next to a lake and he lives by himself and he walks everywhere and he somehow or another gets like pelts and shit and makes enough money to buy bullets and and he lives out there by himself and he'll come into town like once every couple years apparently used to be married used to have a family fascinating guy I mean, this guy's not faking it.
He's actually really living up there by himself in this room that's way smaller than this studio.
And he lives by himself next to a lake.
And he had to shoot wolves one night because they were coming for his fucking moose or his caribou.
You're a guy who The reason why I ask is you're a guy who is always on top of all the latest and greatest in terms of supplementation, the benefits of certain things.
How do you know when to stick them in and when to lay off other stuff?
Because you're not necessarily getting your blood tested all the time after you do some of these things, right?
He eats a very meat-rich diet and he is a fat burner.
He's in ketosis all the time.
He takes all kinds of crazy...
Well, he was talking about his diet, like one of the things that he eats more than anything was steak, right?
That was like his big thing, like fatty piece of meat.
And when he runs, though, when he's involved in a race or anything where there's extremely high requirements on his body, then he goes way above ketosis levels of carbohydrates.
The goal is, if we're from out the gate, we eat carbohydrates every fucking meal until we're 40, We're not making ketones.
Our body doesn't know how to use fat for fuel.
If we at least spend a period of time, and that's what I do now, I'll spend about six months a year in ketosis with maybe a couple carb days in a whole six-month span.
And then after that, I'll practice some carb backloading, or maybe I'll have higher carbohydrate days, but I'm still eating higher fat, higher protein throughout that, or moderate protein throughout that.
That creates flexibility.
That's what we're designed to do.
You can argue all you want about what fucking paleo man ate and all that shit, but the truth is Before refrigeration and before shipping, we did not have access to carbohydrates.
Most of the people on this planet didn't have access for at least three months out of the year, right?
Yeah, but I think even with them, two months out of the year, when they grow seasonally, they'd eat a little bit more carbohydrates and probably not be fully keto for two months out of the year.
Or you would say, I'm a fucking accountant and I came to this building to work, not to have some fucking cult member, asshole, guru, who's probably just trying to fuck everybody.
Bro, I meditate about you and how amazing and amazing leader you are.
Just, uh, I'll be at my desk.
Yeah, man, I think it's a great idea.
I just think there'd be some people that would, well, I guess if you let them know before they took the job, hey, man, the only thing we require is 10 minutes of meditation every day.
But what if you, you know, like, I think people gravitate towards that.
There's like-minded individuals at every fucking company unless they're just, I need money, and usually those people get weeded out of the equation, right?
There's no company you're ever going to work at where 100% of the people are fucking dialed in and they're all on the same page and we're going to change the world.
It doesn't work that way.
But if you have a high percentage that are doing that, that's how you see big changes happen.
You're gonna have, did you hear what Jen said to Mike in front of everybody?
You're going to have that.
You're going to have craziness.
You're going to have people that don't work together well, don't like each other because of pre-existing biases, because of who knows, whatever the fuck it is.
They remind them of an ex.
People are weird.
Getting men and women to work together just to pull that off alone.
The problem is, if you want to cut all sexual harassment, which we all do, you don't want to cut fun.
But how do you, you know, especially like a guy who's saying something that he thinks is funny to a girl, and it just really hurts her feelings, and he was just trying to be funny.
Well, see, the thing is, if you have good friends, like it's what we were talking about earlier with, like, comedians.
Good friends say fucked up shit to each other for fun, and it's fun for both of them because...
If you have a real friend, you love each other so much, you know that he doesn't really think terrible things about you, but he could say funny, ridiculous shit like that because it'll make both of you laugh because you know it's not the case.
But if you thought in any way it was the case, that you really were like mocking him in any way, then it would never be funny.
But because you're never capable of that, it's very funny.
Right, and there's the question, right, if you have a company, like, how the fuck do you decide who to hire and not to hire?
Because you don't know these people in the beginning.
Like, sometimes people are one thing, and then they get a little power, and then they become something different.
They just become a different thing.
And then they get ambitious, or who knows, their life changes in some way, and then they get aggressive.
And then they're a different person.
Like, hey, who are you that we hired five years ago?
Now we have to figure out a fucking exit strategy to get you out of the company.
Fuck!
You know, I've seen many friends go sideways on situations like that where they start doing business together and then the business takes off or doesn't take off or whatever.
They're stuck together and then they're not the same person who they were ten years ago when they started this fucking thing.
So there's all this weirdness and resentment and you know...
Could be you growing and them not or them and you not.
I mean...
It's not uniform either.
That's the other thing.
It's like if you find like-minded people, the great thing about it is everyone's trying their best to be a good person, to take care of their body.
They're trying their best.
There's gonna be some hills and valleys and ups and downs, but for the most part, the thought process is about trying to be your best.
Always, right?
If you're around those people, everybody's gonna be okay.
But if you're around the people that are fucking super negative about stuff, and always sabotaging their life, and always fucking up things for friends around them, and always ruining this, and fucking up that...
That can be exhausting.
That can steal your DNA. That steals your fucking...
Whatever it is that makes you a person.
The feeling that you get when you're around someone is just fucking up all the time where you're like, oh, it's exhausting.
He was looking at, I forget when he was talking about it, but he said he saw a homeless man and he realized the guy was on some fucked up drugs and he was like, oh...
I get it.
You were just introduced to the wrong drugs.
Because Ari does a lot of drugs, but he has drugs that help elevate him and lift him to a new spot and give him new perspective and hope and joy.
And this other guy just got fucking sucked deep down the rabbit hole in the wrong direction.
I think in some ways that's true, but in some ways they like the heroin better.
Who was it that had that statement about heroin?
I'm not going to remember it.
But there was a fascinating statement about heroin killing you.
That when it was killing you...
I think it was Lenny Bruce talking about it.
But that it was such a sweet death.
I really forget the quote because I'm...
Heroin is something I it freaks me out so much.
I don't even like reading too much about it I like read a few Things here there about people that are hooked on it.
It just it creeps me out so much It's almost like I'm reading about demonic possession and in a way I think it is the way I think when people lose their entire life to some pills They can't stop they lose their family lose their job and they just can't stop to keep taking it How is that really any different in terms of the overall results?
And the effect it has on your loved ones and your friends and your family and yourself How is it any different than just a really evil demon that talks you into staying home all day and makes you throw up and Is just fucking with you all day and making you tired just dragging you to the ground making you fall asleep right in front of the sink How is that if there was a demon doing that you're like, oh my god, look at him.
He's possessed by a demon It'd be horrible if we just saw some kid who's just his body's all fucked up because there's a demon inside of him controlling it.
But instead, we're like, oh no, he's all fucked up because he shot up.
What I mean by Lenny Bruce is this is like he's the first.
He's not like primitive.
I mean, he was like super advanced, but he was the very first version of that.
The very first version of a real stand-up comedian.
Like that everybody, all lines come from Lenny Bruce.
I mean, there's a bunch of his contemporaries that were really good, too.
And there's a bunch of people from that era that were just all innovative and interesting thinkers.
They all, I'm sure, fed off of each other.
But Lenny Bruce is almost like Lucy.
He's almost like the first real stand-up comic.
You know, like we say, like, okay, I get Mark Twain was doing it.
I understand that all these different people had like a kind of...
You know comical way of talking in front of people But there was something about the way he was analyzing and breaking down society on stage that was this was the first of those So you watch that and you go, wow, that's almost like a scientific discovery.
It's like, well, now this is going to shift the culture this way because now people are going to be mocking things for entertainment.
So the other side is going to get way more mocking.
So you're going to have your serious side, but there's going to be a business in making fun of it now.
There's a new thing now.
There's a new thing.
And that's what that guy was.
It's kind of a trip, and you really stop and think about how influential one person can be, you know?
That one person with some crazy amount of talent, some weird way of looking at things, can shift.
Hmm wonder when that was it's got to be somewhere in that neighborhood, but that guy and Big heroin problem man big big big heroin problem and he was also fighting against censorship He was like one of the first people that was a public speaker that was challenging the ideas of censorship in court He was getting arrested for doing his nightclub performances and saying certain words and You know,
and he was talking about how ridiculous it is to put all the power into these words, including racist words.
Nobody was doing anything like this back then.
It was crazy shit.
And a lot of what he was doing...
Dominion of sanity.
Yeah, a lot of what he was doing was...
You know, he was a big believer in expanding his consciousness.
He was getting fucked up a lot.
He was, you know...
He's obviously doing heroin because he died of it.
He talked about it pretty openly.
But who knows what else he was doing, too.
I think marijuana was involved in there, too.
He's expanding his mind at a strange time.
I think it's impossible for us to really put ourselves in the mindset of people who lived in the 1950s and early 1960s.
Well, there was a bunch of different factions, right?
A bunch of different people that were working on computers, because a woman created the very first computer code.
I forget what her name was.
Well, there's two pivotal inventions by women in computer design, and then ultimately in In the actual execution of it.
Here it is.
Ada Lovelace.
It's been called the world's first computer programmer.
What she did was write the world's first machine algorithm for an early computing machine that existed only on paper.
Of course, someone had to be the first, but Lovelace was a woman, and this was in the 1840s!
Suck it!
Suck it, stupid people.
Suck it.
Ada.
Ada was rocking shit in the 1800s.
She was figuring it out.
Imagine you'd be like, look, one day they're going to be able to do this, but right now they don't know how to do it.
But if one day, if they just figure out how to do this, this is this, and we're going to have computers, and the computers will operate on this algorithm, and people are looking at you like, bitch, what the fuck are you talking about?
Computers, like, imagine what a hell it would be.
To be a super, super genius living amongst the cave people.
You're like, you fucks, we could be flying around if you assholes knew how to melt aluminum.
WHAT?! SHIT! Can you imagine if you were looking at metal in the ground like, why don't they just pull the metal out and make things out of that?
And they're all like...
And you're like, what's the point?
What's the point in making a house?
What's the point?
What's the point in having glass windows that look out at these cave people fucking each other and stabbing mastodons in the dick with flint-tipped tools?
Fuck!
Imagine what the hell that would be.
That would be like the worst thing you could do to somebody.
Like imagine if one day they come up with a time machine and one of the punishments for people that were real pieces of shit is you would throw them in front of Genghis Khan's horde in like 1200 AD. You would just like take your underwear, you're in your underwear, everybody knows it's gonna happen, you have a chance to live if you just might get lucky, might teleport into the right spot and Not get slaughtered and eaten by the Mongols as they come over the top of the hill.
But we're going to put you right in front of them.
And, you know, good luck, you piece of shit.
Fucking transported with a time machine.
I mean, if they do come up with the ability to do that to people one day.
Like an actual time machine.
That would be the biggest hell ever.
Take a person from 2018 who's used to driving around in his Tesla and checking his text every five minutes and...
No, we're gonna let you live.
We're gonna let you live.
But you're gonna live in 1200 AD. No doctors.
There's no doctors.
What the fuck is a doctor?
What are you talking about, man?
You gotta run.
You gotta run.
They're coming over the hill.
Don't you smell that?
Yeah, that's people burning.
You smell people burning.
They're like candles.
Run!
Just fucking run!
But you're alive.
That was the punishment.
Yeah, that'd be fucked up.
You know?
That would be crazy.
Imagine if somebody raped you and you get to decide what year they come back.
You want to protect people from violent offenders.
That's primary, right?
Violent Offenders, people who want to rob people or murder people or rape people or assault people.
That is like the number one thing is we want everybody to be safe.
I love Jamie.
I don't want Jamie to have to worry when he walks down the street that this guy they locked up ten times gonna jump out of the bushes and take his knees out with a baseball bat for no fucking reason other than he's crazy, right?
You don't want that.
Nobody wants that.
So We all agree.
You gotta lock up rapists and murderers and all that.
But after that, after you get past that, it's like, hmm, what good does it do to get that guy that cheated on his taxes?
Why do you put him in a cage for a year?
Why don't you let him work and pay you back?
Like, why is he in a cage for a year?
That seems like you're punishing him.
Like, you're just trying to torture him and steal a year of his life.
But he just owes you money.
He doesn't owe you a year of his life.
How much is a year of your life worth?
It's worth fucking billions of dollars.
A year of your life?
Fuck you, man.
You can't take a year of someone's life.
That's crazy.
But if you owe taxes, they go, I'd like a year of your life, sir.
You have to catch them and there has to be punishment.
If you owe people money, there should be reparations.
If you were involved in some sort of a banking scheme and you rip people off, you should have to pay those people back, period.
You should be responsible for that.
You're assuming that someone's capable of growing, and sometimes we don't like to do that.
It's very convenient to assume that someone is in a static state and they're never gonna grow.
Oh, this old banker asshole, he's just a rich old cunt and this is how he's gonna die.
Fuck him.
There's that thing, but he's a human being.
And even if he lived his life fucking people over on those weird mortgage situation loans that were going on, what were those things called?
Those adjustable arm?
Yeah, the adjustable mortgages that people got fucked on because they signed up for them and they were really low rate and then all of a sudden their rate jacked up through the roof and they were just inevitably gonna lose their house.
And this was like something that people knew about it before.
Even the people that organized that kind of shit, even knowing, they can grow.
It's a horrible thing they did.
But to say that they're done, fuck them, lock them up forever, my grandma lost her house.
It's terrible that your grandma lost her house, and whoever the fuck benefited from your grandma losing the house, they should all have to give that money back too.
They should figure out how the fuck they allow these banks to weasel people like that.
You're not looking out for anybody's best interest when you do something like that.
And obviously they didn't know they were going to The rates were going to get as high as they got where people were in terrible situations, but they should have known something was coming.
And even people that were involved in the organizations that were probably responsible in part for the recession, which fucked everything up, those people all got bonuses when there was bailouts.
There's a little, you know, there's a period in the beginning where it's frustrating, but once you, if you do do, like anything, no matter what it is, especially physical stuff, something about getting good at things, it's very rewarding, you know?
Not enough people go through that.
Not enough people, I think, try new shit out.
And I think there's also new pathways that get opened in your brain the more you try something new that you suck at.
And when you start off from that beginner phase and try to, like, put it together.
And I think...
The little journey of the beginner phase.
I think we should try something new once a year.
I really do.
I mean, maybe more.
But for me, it can't be more than once a year because I get too crazy about stuff.
For me, once a year is like I might be able to squeeze something in once a year and try it out for a little while and not let it overcome all the things I'm already crazy about.
But they have a real problem in the fact that they...
Especially in Lanai, they have no predators.
There's nothing.
At least in Texas, they have mountain lions.
I mean, maybe coyotes are a situation for fawns.
I would imagine coyotes get some fawns, but they don't really have many bear to speak of.
Texas, although I think Texas is seeing a resurgence in black bear population.
They're starting to see sightings of black bear.
Check to see if that's true.
Um, that would, uh, that would kill off some, they kill off a shitload of deer, little, little bear, or, um, um, little calves and, um, uh, fawns, deer fawns and cow elk calves.
When a cow elk rather gives a calf, bears get those fuckers all the time.
A popular park in California is back open Friday after a woman says she was attacked by a bear and had to stab it in order to escape.
Los Angeles County Sheriff's officials say the attack was reported at about noon Thursday on the Pacific Coast Trail in Los Angeles Area Vasquez Parks Rock Rocks Park.
Where's Vasquez Rocks?
Holy shit, dude.
Look at this.
She was hiking on the trail She turned around after seeing what appeared to be bear droppings a short times later.
She She heard something behind her head and turned to see a small black bear approaching her at a fast pace She pulled a knife from her backpack and stabbed the bear in the left shoulder Which made it stop and run away authorities say the hiker was scratched on her waist on her wrist But she refused medical treatment.
Holy shit.
This bitch is gangster She stabbed a bear, and she's the first in LA to stab a bear.
That girl's ready, though.
Respect.
Right?
I mean, she pulled that fucking knife out, stabbed that bear, and the bear scratched her, and she's like, I'm good.
Because there were some questions as to whether or not they were going to dig it out or whether they were going to put a new road over the top of the dirt that's there now.
You also wouldn't worry about like getting hit so you'd be a little freer with your motions I think if they that would have to be another human playing you though because if it's just fucking some computer I mean they got to write in an algorithm on how often the faint works how often it doesn't like If it didn't if it wasn't scared it wouldn't give a shit.
Yeah, if you go to throw a front kick and someone's here and you get your knee up high and then you push into it, that's a big difference between the guy being here.
This is just super simple but like these are just programmed you know like AI bots that are just like watching a swipe of a hand near its face and they've just programmed a little like movement is all hmm so you get I don't know I would say the long time away but maybe not I think the real move one day is AI robots that know jujitsu and go at like 50 percent speed That would have to be the case.
Her talking to another one of these robots about her daughter.
And you're like, Jesus Christ.
This is so fascinating because...
The writing is so goddamn good, and then the acting is so goddamn good that it has this weird effect where you know they're kind of fucked up for people, but they're not really people, but they seem very people-like.
There's just a perfect amount of off.
Just the perfect amount of like, what in the fuck are you?
There's something about cults, and there's something about seeing people just hook, line, and sinker, roll out the red carpet, here he comes, here he comes, here he comes.
That stuff freaks me out.
That stuff freaks me out.
I think because I've seen it.
I've seen it with martial arts especially.
I've seen it with a lot of the old school martial arts schools.
We're very culty.
Very culty.
You know, I don't know if you follow McDojoLife on Instagram.
Oh, dude.
I'm just gonna give you a treat here mcdojo life is a awesome collection of the fakest martial arts you've ever seen in your life and Something about these videos is so goddamn compelling because these people who are the students They know the shit does not really work, but they pretend that it works Because they're just, they're in a cult, you know?
And this guy's like teaching people, like if someone comes to grab him, like to try to take him down like some wrestler.
There's something about this shit that freaks me the fuck out.
And my martial arts school that I started out in, Taekwondo School, was very strict.
There was a lot of discipline.
It wasn't really culty, but they're all a little culty.
They're all a little culty.
Well, there's master and mister and all that stuff.
There's always a little bit of that, but we would go to tournaments and then we would see it full-on Just full-on cults like one guy would be the kung-fu master and have all his students and I'll be at his command and he'd be telling them what to do They'd scream it out and shit just like karate kid.
There's a lot of a man There's hundreds of these weird little schools that were run by people that were running their own little cults But at least at least at the tournaments like you guys are getting actually fucking compete, right?
So the kids, even though they're like dogs, they're well-trained, they always listen, yes sir, yes sir, they still get to get on the mat and they experience loss, they experience some form of fucking real-worldness.
But this is why I think I get freaked out by cults, is that when I was a young teenager and I started doing martial arts, I saw certain elements of that.
I went to Catholic school for just one year when I was young, when I was seven, first grade, actually six, right?
It was fucking horrible.
I remember thinking that I can't believe all these people are just doing this.
All these people are following along.
It was so awful.
Okay, enough.
I don't want to see any more of these.
I can't.
They're so stupid.
They're all so stupid.
He's got hundreds of them, man.
But, um, I recognized that, like, when I was young, I was like, this is not, this doesn't make sense.
This is just, everybody's just going along with this.
This is normal, to leave your kids with this mean-ass nun, and all these fucking people are, everybody's like, stay in order!
Everyone's nasty to you, and the hidden kids are like, oof!
It was awful.
And I remember thinking, man, there's something that happens to people when they get big groups of them together and they agree on irrational shit.
There's some weird thing that happens to people where everybody...
This can't be right.
That lady is not acting in the name of God.
There's no fucking way.
She's a crazy, mean old lady, and I gotta listen to her because she works for God?
Delusional, but it is fair because we all need to see that because there's some people that really did believe that guy had magic powers because They run a cult like these people that are doing all this death touch that when they see the their students like oh They fall down they believe that they're getting jolted and some weird might maybe not a hundred percent But there's a small percentage of their bank brain that's willing to not just go along with it But to believe this guy something special That guy with the yellow sneakers didn't give a fuck about that.
He just beat the shit out of that dude.
And for everybody else but that dude, that's good.
You know, for that guy to find out that he's not really some possessor of magic powers.
Yeah, he really loves yoga Is it funny like Like, that sounds like a great thing if you were single, you know?
Like, if you're just a bunch of guys living together, I've heard a hundred stories.
Yeah, we have our living room matted up, and we just drill.
I know a lot of guys who got really good because of that.
Like, jiu-jitsu guys that wound up being roommates with other jiu-jitsu guys.
And so instead of just going to class every day and rolling, they would take, like, one or two days a week, and they would do, like, a straight hour of nothing but drills.
And, like, dude, you'd be amazed at how much better you get just from doing that.
We've got four new flavors coming out, and I get to be the guinea pig for that shit, too, with Aubrey and a few other people on the team, ETG, Lindsay.
I don't think I had read that on the first podcast.
Greenfield turned me on to this guy.
He says that there's a different type of casein protein that...
Holstein black and white dairy cows make versus Southern European cows.
Goats don't make it.
Sheep don't make it.
So if you're going to have dairy, go with something from a Southern European cow or go with like goat's milk, cheese, sheep smoke cheese, those kind of things.
But I mean, if you're eating the fucking cereal like I'm doing, especially when I'm doing keto, I'll throw heavy coconut cream in there.
Like a canned coconut cream.
We're making our own keto ice cream with an ice cream maker.
But if they could figure out a way to make something taste like a real ice cream sundae, like with whipped cream, hot chocolate, cherries, everything, and have it be super healthy for you.
L-I-L-L-Y or I-E? Yeah, they're at Whole Foods, Sprouts, all those places.
They're fucking insane.
They're really insane.
They've got it dialed in.
But I mean, if you could melt that down on some homemade ice cream, that's something I tell people a lot is, If you're gonna cheat or if you're gonna eat for mouth pleasure, make it yourself.
Make your own fucking pizza with a better crust.
Make your own dessert with shit that's not gonna spike your blood sugar and make you fat and cause inflammation and fuck your brain up.
Especially if you have some barbecue, dude, you're in the middle of a slab of ribs, and you go for that cold Coke, and you just chug, chug, chug, and you feel the syrup.