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May 27, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 27, 2018
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brendan schaub
01:24:32
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eddie bravo
14:27
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joe rogan
01:18:30
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jamie vernon
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joey diaz
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joe rogan
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BAM! We're live!
We got up early as a motherfucker, ladies and gentlemen.
Not really.
brendan schaub
Nah.
joe rogan
It's 10 a.m.
Didn't we do one at like 4 a.m.
before?
brendan schaub
We did one at 5 a.m.
joe rogan
Remember that?
eddie bravo
Damn.
brendan schaub
It was a England card, right?
joe rogan
Was it?
Something.
Maybe it was like China or something.
Congo.
brendan schaub
It might have been China.
It might have been China.
joe rogan
What time is it in Africa right now?
Is it yesterday?
eddie bravo
I think they're 12 hours ahead.
brendan schaub
Is it Wednesday in Africa?
joe rogan
It's definitely 1960. I forgot he knocked out Whitaker.
We're looking at Wonderboy stopping Whitaker.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's big.
joe rogan
At 70. Yeah, but Whitaker was diminished, man.
Getting down to 170 was a fucking battle for him.
brendan schaub
Dude, you look at Wonderboy, what he's accomplished, it's so impressive.
joe rogan
Amazing.
brendan schaub
All the indicators would point that Wonderboy should win this fight, but I'm on the fence, man.
joe rogan
Well, I think Till really is a bad, bad man.
There's no question about it.
But he did come up real short on the weigh-in, which really bums me out.
Now, I had heard that his pregnant girlfriend is in, this is what everyone's saying, is in the hospital.
And that she's had some serious issues, and he's been going back and forth to the hospital, and he hasn't...
We just didn't have a chance to cut the weight right.
A lot of people claim, you know, that that's exactly what the issue was.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
That drama's never good, especially your first main card, main event in your hometown against Wonder Boy.
There's enough pressure as it is.
joe rogan
Well, the Cowboy fight was a big pressure fight, but he rose to the occasion of that in a big way.
brendan schaub
Not really, though.
joe rogan
Was it?
brendan schaub
Because we didn't know who he was, really.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was his opportunity.
brendan schaub
For sure, but you're fighting a smaller guy.
It's against Cowboy, you know?
So he goes forward and does work.
Now it's like, man.
I mean, there's been guys who have blown up before, but the hype on Till, and I'm all up on his dick, but there's a ton of hype on him.
If he wins this one...
It's off to the races.
joe rogan
It is, but he's fucking four and a half pounds over championship weight.
That is a lot.
That's not a little.
That's a lot.
brendan schaub
It's such an advantage, too.
You know, fighters that have missed weight are undefeated this year.
When they still fight, they're undefeated.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a big advantage.
It's a form of cheating.
If you do it on purpose, for sure.
I think what's interesting, what Wonderboy did, he said you've got to weigh 188 the next day.
brendan schaub
Tight move.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because Till's a big boy.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Till's a really big boy.
joe rogan
Very smart.
Like, whatever advantage that he got from not cutting that extra three pounds, you know, now he's three and a half pounds, now he's lost a little bit of it, I guess.
brendan schaub
If you're Wonderboy though, you want to drag this into later rounds.
You know he's going to come out aggressive.
You know he's had some drama cutting weight and he had to cut more weight to maintain it the day of.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all fascinating, man.
It's all fascinating.
We're going to find out a lot.
The other thing is, too, the styles.
Like, what Wonderboy does is at kicking distance.
Like, if you watch the exchanges that he's at, he moves real good at the waist like a snake, like back and forth.
But he wants to keep you not even at Muay Thai kicking distance.
He keeps you at karate kicking distance.
unidentified
Far.
joe rogan
Which is sideways and very far.
brendan schaub
Far.
Tough to reach.
joe rogan
And Darren's got to close that gap.
And closing that gap is when Wonderboy's the most dangerous.
And if you see some of his training footage, he seems to be concentrating on blitzing in and countering and sidestepping and countering.
brendan schaub
Like a matador.
If you look at Wonderboy's history, whenever he fights aggressive dudes, they get fucked.
Up.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's like his best style.
brendan schaub
That's literally what he wants.
He's like, come on, bring it on.
And that's what Till wants to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very interesting.
brendan schaub
But I'm telling you, man, nothing in this fight would surprise me.
Unless Darren Till just goes out there and just mercs him.
Just no respect, mercs him.
That's the only thing that would surprise me.
But if Till does win, strap a fucking rocket ship to that boy's back.
Because now that Bisbing's retired, UK needs a face, that's him.
He's the fucking guy, man.
joe rogan
Even if he loses, he could still be that.
He's 25 years old.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but not to that extent.
You beat Wonderboy and you knock out Wonderboy, it's fucking off to the races.
joe rogan
He's a super talented striker, though.
What he did to Cowboy, it wasn't just impressive.
It was complete domination.
unidentified
Demoralizing, yeah.
joe rogan
Just controlled the range.
He controlled every single aspect of the exchanges.
Cowboy got like one good knee off at one point in time.
And one good right hand to the body.
I re-watched the fight the other day.
Just to kind of get amped up for this.
brendan schaub
It's so impressive.
joe rogan
Oh, man, he obliterated him.
brendan schaub
The thing, too, about Till where I think he gets so much hype is a lot of guys talk, like Colby Covington's an amazing, talented fighter.
There's a lot of guys who talk a lot of stuff.
I'm like, all right, it's more of an act.
They're super talented.
But when Darren Till talks, I'm like, God, it's almost that Conor McGregor effect.
I'm like, this fool actually believes it.
He believes it, and he has those ridiculous skills, and that's going to go a long ways.
joe rogan
What'd you think?
brendan schaub
Damn.
There's going to be no jiu-jitsu in this, Eddie.
joe rogan
No jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
If it goes to the ground, we're all fucked.
All I know about Darren Till is his fight with Cerrone.
That's it.
This card is going to be interesting.
You were going to have Gunnar Nelson on the card, though.
Is Gunnar Nelson on the card?
No, he got hurt.
But you're going to have Gunnar Nelson and Neil Magno, which was a fun fight.
joe rogan
That's a great fight.
brendan schaub
They were going to do Gunnar Nelson until, but for whatever reason, they decided to go with Wonderboy.
Jason Knight, I know about him.
Did he already fight on the undercard, or is he on the main card?
He's on the main card.
Oh, beautiful.
unidentified
Who is he fighting?
brendan schaub
He has a tough fight.
Oh, my God.
He has a tough fight.
Very tough fight.
Oh, Marikani.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a monster.
brendan schaub
The Japanese guy?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Well, he lives in Finland, but what is his background?
brendan schaub
He's a...
jamie vernon
Kurdistan, it says.
joe rogan
He's a really good wrestler who also has wild ass strikes, man.
Flying knees and shit.
brendan schaub
Super tough fight for your boy, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Neil Magny.
Who's Neil Magny fighting now?
brendan schaub
For Wonderboy, though, there's not a ton of upside for him for this fight.
I don't know why he took it, to be honest.
It's a good matchup for him, but you're in dangerous territory, right?
You're fighting the number nine guy.
You're ranked number one.
He misses weight.
He's huge.
I feel like all the pressure's off Wonderboy right now, especially after he's missing weight.
But if you're Wonderboy, even if you starch Till, they're not giving you a title shot.
Until Woodley loses that strap, Wonderboy's not fighting for a title.
joe rogan
14-2-1 for Wonderboy.
You gotta remember, the only loss was to Tyron Woodley and then to Matt Brown.
Those two fights and one draw with Woodley.
Crazy.
brendan schaub
Why couldn't he fight Woodley again?
joe rogan
Well, that's what he's asking.
First of all, he's saying, why don't I get a shot at the interim title?
How are you giving the interim title to Colby Covington, who only beat Damian Maia, who's 40 years old, who's clearly past his prime?
How is that good enough to get him a shot at the interim title?
brendan schaub
We talked a lot of shit.
joe rogan
That's it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
That's basically it.
brendan schaub
That goes a long way.
But at the same time, yeah, it goes a long way this day and age.
But at the same time with RDA, you know, they're not doing Colby any favors.
Send him down to Brazil.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
It's in Chicago.
joe rogan
Yeah, Chicago.
brendan schaub
Chicago to fight RDA, which is, if you look at Colby's style, it's probably the worst matchup for him.
He's a heavy underdog.
So I'm hoping, not hoping, I think what their plan would be, RDA wins that, fights Woodley, which is a tough matchup for Woodley, and if RDA were able to beat Woodley, then you have Wonderboy slip in there.
joe rogan
Or Colby wins, and then you got mad shit talking with him and Woodley, and it gets very interesting.
brendan schaub
It gets super interesting.
joe rogan
I like that fight.
It's a good fight.
I like Colby and Tyron.
brendan schaub
Colby's the underdog in every one of those fights.
joe rogan
He is.
brendan schaub
But RDA-Woodley, you got a barn burn in your hands.
That's a great matchup.
joe rogan
Yeah.
RDA-Woodley's very interesting.
brendan schaub
Because as much as they, you know, I love Woodley, I think his style is ridiculous, he's going to be tough to beat.
You know, I think they want some bit of turnover in there with Woodley.
They want some turnover.
What is RDA going to do to Woodley?
I mean, he's not going to be able to take him down.
joe rogan
No.
The only thing he's got going on is striking.
brendan schaub
And his movement's good.
And if it does go to the ground...
Woodley's a tough one to beat for anybody.
joe rogan
Even RDA is striking.
Woodley has, I'll put you to sleep, instantly striking.
brendan schaub
Woodley has more power.
RDA has better fundamentals, I would say.
As far as putting Muay Thai, putting it together, kicks with the hands.
You put that speed, the power, the explosiveness.
Woodley's a goddamn knight, man.
joe rogan
He's terrified.
brendan schaub
Woodley's still the favorite in that fight.
eddie bravo
It's not going to the ground.
brendan schaub
Unless Woodley wants it to.
joe rogan
Woodley just got through shoulder surgery.
He just got his labrum repaired, which is not the worst shoulder surgery.
eddie bravo
What does that mean exactly?
He stapled the labrum back to his bone?
joe rogan
No, the labrum, he had some sort of a tear in it that fucked up in the Damien Maia fight instantly.
They stitch it back together again, but he's gone through crazy PRP and all kinds of other shit.
Now, he put up a video of him hitting mitts, and it's only been about three months since the surgery, and he's hitting mitts hard.
I don't know if that's an old video, though.
You know, he put up this video of him.
brendan schaub
He's a freak, though.
He might be getting some injections in there.
joe rogan
He definitely got some injections.
He was talking about all the different things he was going to do.
He came on the podcast just a few weeks after shoulder surgery, and he was moving around normal and moving his hands around normal.
But it really depends entirely on how bad this is.
The big one is the bicep tendon.
When the bicep tendon gets torn off the muscle or off the bone, and then they have to put it back in, staple it down.
It does work right now.
Now it does.
Not for pitchers.
If you're a pitcher and that shit goes south, you're diggity done.
But for a fighter, no problem.
It doesn't seem to be a problem for fighters.
brendan schaub
But I bet Woodley, so you got RDA, Colby, so obviously the winner of that will fight Woodley.
End of the year.
Woodley will be back in the year.
No doubt.
joe rogan
Yeah, could very well be on the December 31st card.
You know, that's a big one.
brendan schaub
Huge card.
joe rogan
You know, I mean, I think they were trying to talk about him being on the August card in L.A., but that's not going to happen.
That's a damn good card right now, right?
brendan schaub
L.A. is?
joe rogan
Isn't it?
brendan schaub
Well, they were waiting for GSB Nate, and obviously that's not happening, so who do you have now in L.A.? Let's see.
joe rogan
Let's pull that up.
brendan schaub
Did they find an opponent for Zybit?
We're just going to be at Staples?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they want to do Cyborg versus Nunes.
brendan schaub
Not happening.
Nunes suspended.
joe rogan
Is she?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
What'd she hurt?
brendan schaub
Her hands from whooping that ass.
joe rogan
Whooping that ass?
Damn.
Oh yeah, TJ and Cody.
brendan schaub
Damn!
joe rogan
That's LA? Yeah.
Oh, I'm very excited.
brendan schaub
What's the date of Struggle Street right now?
What's the date?
joe rogan
Not nearly as good.
August 4th.
The card's not nearly as good as it was going to be.
brendan schaub
No, it was going to be a bar burner, but Chicago's stacked.
Yeah, so far this card is not the greatest.
joe rogan
Well, it has a lot of time.
brendan schaub
It has some time, though.
joe rogan
It does.
We're only in May.
brendan schaub
And there's some great fights coming up.
unidentified
Robert Whittaker, Yoel Romero, son!
joe rogan
Chicago is one of the best cards ever.
Dos Anjos, Colby Covington, Holly Holm, Megan Anderson.
brendan schaub
Hey, let this sink in.
You got CM Punk versus that, I forget his name, Jackson.
Over, Overeem, Curtis Blaze, Claudio Gadeja, Esparza.
joe rogan
That's so disgusting.
brendan schaub
And then on the undercard, you got Rashad Evans.
And my boy, Joey Benavidez versus Pettis.
CM Punk said, take a seat, y'all.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
brendan schaub
Mike Jackson, that's right.
joe rogan
That is so crazy to me.
brendan schaub
0-1 versus 0-1.
joe rogan
Does that piss you off?
brendan schaub
No, because I get it.
Because I'm not a fighter.
If I was a fighter, I'd be furious.
But out of the game, in entertainment, I'm like, I get what you're doing.
Selling some wolf tickets there.
I get what you're doing.
It's the worst fight of all time in UFC history, skill-wise.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Spicely's good.
He's about to fight now.
Eric Spicely?
What do you guys know about him?
joe rogan
I don't know anything about him.
brendan schaub
No?
joe rogan
I mean, I've probably seen him fight before.
brendan schaub
He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
His jiu-jitsu is really good.
Yeah, he's the favorite.
He's really good.
He's a weird body.
joe rogan
Where's he from, Jay?
brendan schaub
Somewhere on the East Coast.
When he's in LA, he comes through my school.
He's really good.
He merks everybody.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Does that CM Punk Jackson stuff bother you, Joe, or are you used to it now?
joe rogan
It bothers me.
Yeah.
I don't like it.
I don't mind him fighting.
I think it's great that he's fighting.
In the UFC. I think it's great that he's testing himself.
In the UFC. Even if they wanted to do it in the UFC, have him on the prelims, put him on FS1, make it...
You know, make it a fight pass thing.
brendan schaub
I think his contract won't allow that.
I think his contract has to be pay-per-view.
I'd assume if you're seeing Punk, you're that big of a draw.
joe rogan
Maybe he was.
Is he still?
Do you think?
How many people are going to buy that pay-per-view to watch him fight?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Sam Punk?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That first one he got his ass whipped so bad.
Is the WWE raging?
Huge.
It's huge.
People are actually going.
So just like that Raw, the Raw series, which Fox has now, which a lot of people, I don't think they realize, Fox decided to go with the WWE instead of the UFC. They turned down the UFC and went with WWE. And now they have the Raw series, which gets like three-something million viewers every time they air it.
It's a built-in audience.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
I always bet on dudes who have hairy backs.
brendan schaub
Yeah, their testosterone is usually way higher than everyone else's.
And he's going bald.
Two or two for two.
joe rogan
He's got some fucking gorilla back.
brendan schaub
Look at that shit.
joe rogan
That's some werewolf type shit.
But not hairy legs, which is weird.
brendan schaub
Yeah, very strange.
joe rogan
That's not weird.
That's some weird hair placement.
Unless he's trying to slip out of leg locks.
He's got his legs all shaved down.
He's got a weird body though, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's interesting.
He's a character.
If he goes to the ground, homeboy's in trouble.
joe rogan
Good jab.
He's got a good jab.
Look at that pop-pop.
You know, good range.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Damn, Stewart just popped in.
brendan schaub
Where's Stewart from?
He had a white flag.
It looked like a Red Cross flag.
That's country.
Dude, have you seen...
eddie bravo
Oh, that's England?
joe rogan
Fucking England, lad.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the what?
Come on.
unidentified
Scouse, lad.
brendan schaub
I'm sorry.
unidentified
I forgot.
eddie bravo
That's why he was in Braveheart.
unidentified
I forgot.
joe rogan
Fucking Braveheart.
eddie bravo
I haven't seen Braveheart in 10 years.
joe rogan
That was Scotland, bro.
That's a totally different country.
brendan schaub
God damn it, Kenny.
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
Okay.
It's still United Kingdom, though.
joe rogan
It's true.
Good point.
brendan schaub
Good point.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking before the podcast about how good Renato La Ronja's scouse is.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
His Liverpool accent.
brendan schaub
It's so good.
joe rogan
It's fucking amazing.
brendan schaub
It's so good.
joe rogan
He's so talented.
brendan schaub
Yours was good, too, the other night.
Mine?
Yeah, your gentile was fucking good.
joe rogan
I don't know what I was doing.
brendan schaub
It was good.
joe rogan
That was high.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was good, though.
joe rogan
I was channeling.
brendan schaub
Super legit, though.
unidentified
I'm doing everything I can to prepare.
brendan schaub
Yeah, a lot of pressure on that kid.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's crazy if this is all going on, as we heard, that while his girlfriend is pregnant and in the hospital.
brendan schaub
And she's having issues, like with the baby?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
I can't imagine.
Check this out.
He's about to take him down.
joe rogan
We've been through pregnancies before.
unidentified
It's terrifying.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's going to take him down.
Oh, you just want a healthy baby.
That's the last thing you want to deal with fight week.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
There it goes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, maybe not.
Maybe not.
Is it the same baby mom or a different one?
We probably don't know.
joe rogan
I have zero idea.
brendan schaub
Did you sync up?
Do people know where we're at?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
You still do that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Is that necessary?
joe rogan
Do we have a number on the screen, Jamie?
239. Jamie hooks it up on the screen now.
brendan schaub
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
So people are watching it.
brendan schaub
Oh, tight move, Jamie.
joe rogan
Jamie's on the fucking ball side.
brendan schaub
Jamie is vibrant today because it's game seven of the Cavs.
He's all nervous.
joe rogan
Oh, look at him.
He's got double C's.
brendan schaub
Double C's.
jamie vernon
Gotta go all in.
Whatever it takes.
brendan schaub
Did you wake up and pray this morning, Jamie, for LeBron James' health?
joe rogan
He burnt some incense and shit.
jamie vernon
Kevin Love to come back.
brendan schaub
I saw that three-pointer that he hit, like, I don't know, game six or something.
The game winner.
jamie vernon
They actually have something interesting going on.
They have a concussion protocol that's getting one of their players out.
So, like, a guy got hit in the head during the game, and he can't play until he goes through, like, five tests.
brendan schaub
Kevin Love?
jamie vernon
Yeah, so he's missing the game.
joe rogan
For fucking basketball?
brendan schaub
For game seven?
Yeah.
I like Kevin Love because he's a UCLA guy, but man the fuck up.
jamie vernon
It's not him, it's the league.
There's rules and shit.
brendan schaub
Why would they do that?
jamie vernon
It's not him.
It's not him, it's the rules.
joe rogan
But why would they do that for basketball?
brendan schaub
Brain damage, bro.
joe rogan
Has there ever been some CTE in basketball?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Who?
jamie vernon
There's a couple players that have had some problems.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
It's not rampant like the NFL, obviously, but they get in trouble and they don't want to be liable just like the NFL. They get sued at the end of the day.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Crazy though, huh?
The last people you'd think would be putting people on the bench.
brendan schaub
Oh, I know.
eddie bravo
Especially Game 7. So what's going on with the ESPN deal?
brendan schaub
When does that start?
joe rogan
I don't know.
eddie bravo
So UFC's going to be on ESPN now?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
No more Fox.
joe rogan
No more Fox.
brendan schaub
That's done.
No more Fox.
No, it finishes at the end of this year.
joe rogan
It was supposed to be Fox and ESPN were going to split it, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, and then Fox didn't want to pay the premium.
But I think it's better.
I think it was a home run for the UFC, man, to land at ESPN. It's as serious as it gets as far as major sports.
It's on one network.
And also, with ESPN, so you have ESPN +, which will get some fight nights, and you have regular ESPN, ESPN2. With Fox, not that they didn't do a great job, but it was FXX. I think ESPN can learn from the mistakes from Fox and just make it that much better.
joe rogan
I think you're right about that because there's been some times that I thought I had my DVR set, but then I get home and it was on FS1. I'm like, motherfucker!
brendan schaub
Or sometimes it's like my bat NASCAR is playing, so go to FXX times 6. It's like, well, fuck, man.
Where's that at?
joe rogan
Or a baseball game goes long and you've got to go to FS2. You've got to find it.
brendan schaub
Where is that?
eddie bravo
Is that 672?
brendan schaub
My only concern on ESPN is because ESPN obviously has the NFL, has the NBA. How much focus are we going to put on the UFC? We don't want to be the side chick.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Because they're married to the NBA, NFL. That's their baby.
Is the UFC going to be the side chick?
Right.
Good point.
That's what you don't want.
joe rogan
But they've been putting on some good boxing matches.
They had the Lomachenko fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Lomachenko contracted Lomachenko.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had another really good fight on recently, too.
brendan schaub
I got Lomachenko on my podcast coming up.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Excited for that.
I don't know how his English is, but we'll figure it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, they contacted me too.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think I'm going to have them on as well.
brendan schaub
Might as well.
joe rogan
Might as well.
I got questions.
brendan schaub
I got a lot of questions.
joe rogan
I'm going to watch yours first.
Make up my mind if I pull the trigger on that.
Like, ooh, this one ain't so good.
brendan schaub
I'm Fox, ESPN. Learn from my mistakes.
Get a translator.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's like you think it'd be a good idea to have somebody on, but if you had them on, it'd be like, ooh, how long could you talk to them?
brendan schaub
I know.
Well, it'd be for the Showtime below the TV show, so it's only a six-minute segment.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you've had Cyborg on, but you've had her on with her boyfriend, her boyfriend translates?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Well, no, her English is pretty good, but if there's ever issues, she'll, like, take over, you know?
Like, she'll explain it, and then it's a little, I'm a little like, God, I don't know what you're talking about right now, and then she'll take over.
But it works great, yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard.
When I had Yoel on, it was the best, because Joey was translating for Yoel.
No one better than Joey did translate.
It was great.
It's a fucking hard gig, though.
brendan schaub
Translating?
Nightmare.
You should have Joey do it for all the fun.
joe rogan
I mean, Eddie, you speak Spanish.
You know how hard it is.
eddie bravo
I barely speak Spanish.
joe rogan
But you speak enough to talk to people.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You know, we keep it light.
As soon as we get deep, I'm lost.
It sounds like Iranian.
joe rogan
They start real flowing fast.
brendan schaub
Yeah, my grandma, when she started, you know, I was the first of the grandkids to lose Spanish and felt really shameful because of that.
But man, it was really embarrassing hanging out with my grandmother and she's going off and I'm like, I don't know what she's saying.
eddie bravo
I'm looking over to my aunts and my uncles.
I'm like, what did she just say?
brendan schaub
It's very embarrassing.
It's tough when you have a translator because you don't get in that flow.
There's a flow and you're kind of connecting, going back and forth.
Where if there's a translator, the chemistry's not there.
You don't have that fun kind of flow.
joe rogan
But the one thing that is good, though, what I find is that it allows you more time to think about what you're going to say.
Oh, shit.
Oh, damn.
Stewart's teeing off.
Ooh, spicy coming back.
brendan schaub
But sometimes when I have too much time to think about the question, it's not as good, it's not as organic.
Then I feel like I work for ESPN or something like that.
joe rogan
Right, I know exactly what you're talking about.
brendan schaub
And I don't want to be that good.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?
That's the hard part of having these conversations with people, is keeping them conversations and not turning them into some corny-ass fucking interview.
brendan schaub
The worst.
There's nothing worse.
But sometimes you have to do that.
If you can't, like sometimes I feel myself, especially with certain bonds.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Oh, you got hurt.
You got hurt.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Oh, he's covering up.
That's it.
brendan schaub
Stewart was an underdog, too, in this.
joe rogan
Damn.
Hit him with some bombs.
brendan schaub
England coming in strong.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, I've watched those interviews, those standard interviews now, where, you know, there's no connection between the person talking and the other person answering the questions, and they're so gross.
brendan schaub
You know, I was having this conversation with Ken Jeong.
joe rogan
Yeah, Dr. Ken?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Dr. Ken, who's amazing.
Might be the nicest guy in the world.
joe rogan
He's a sweetheart.
brendan schaub
But he doesn't do a lot of...
He's like, podcast?
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
I'm like, dude, have your public set up Joe or something.
The podcast, it's as big as it gets, man.
He's like, yeah.
And the example I gave him, I go, say you went on Tonight Show and you do a four-minute segment, you're going to have to...
You're literally promoting whatever movie or the stand-up, your special coming out.
That's all you're doing is promoting, trying to get people to buy that.
That's not real, man.
That's not the real you.
If we film this, people are going to be a fan of you.
Then buy whatever you're going to be into or whatever you're pitching.
That's a much better way to go.
There's no time limit.
There's no restrictions.
joe rogan
It's crazy that there's no other place for that.
Even Howard Stern would do interviews with people.
He would get people to say a lot of shit.
brendan schaub
He had an agenda.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He had an agenda.
brendan schaub
Howard Stern had an agenda?
Typically, yeah.
eddie bravo
To get, like, dirt out, you want to find out who you're fucking.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's an agenda, though.
That's an agenda, though.
He wasn't just having a conversation with you.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He calls himself the dentist.
Okay.
I get it.
Does he fuck people's teeth up?
brendan schaub
Does he have nice teeth?
joe rogan
He's actually a dentist.
brendan schaub
Well, I hope he has bad teeth.
No, he knocks.
He pulls people's teeth out.
joe rogan
It's hard.
brendan schaub
With his fists.
joe rogan
For sure.
brendan schaub
That's a terrible name.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's already been taken, too.
Josh Nier.
unidentified
Remember?
brendan schaub
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
Old school.
brendan schaub
That's a great name, dude that knocks teeth out.
Yeah, come on, man.
That's beautiful.
joe rogan
Josh Nier, in my opinion, he's a guy that if you're a hardcore fan, you know who Josh Nier is.
And Josh Nier's been around a long time.
brendan schaub
The new fans don't know him, though.
So they're like, ooh, dentist?
That's so cool.
joe rogan
Still.
That's like calling yourself Hands of Stone if you're a boxer.
Lay the fuck off.
brendan schaub
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
That's Roberto Duran.
Back the fuck up.
Not saying that Josh Neer's in the same breath as Roberto Duran, but as a fan, a fan for a long time, yeah, that's his nickname.
brendan schaub
Someone had hands of stone, though.
joe rogan
John Lineker.
John Lineker.
brendan schaub
Someone from Canada.
What about Hominick or Sam Stout, one of them?
joe rogan
Sam Stout, that's right.
brendan schaub
He did it, too.
But so did Homeboy and Strikeforce that came over to the UFC. They almost had the double knockout.
He hit a homeboy with a body shot and he got knocked out.
What's his name?
joe rogan
Scott Smith.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Scott Smith.
Hands of Stones, right?
joe rogan
Hands of Steel?
brendan schaub
Steel.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that.
brendan schaub
There's a lot of that going around.
joe rogan
Some people just go hard with those fucking made-up nicknames and make them up for themselves.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you can't do that, man.
You can't give yourself a nickname.
unidentified
You just can't do that.
brendan schaub
People do all the time.
unidentified
I know you can't, though.
brendan schaub
It doesn't work that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, imagine if you were a kid who went in the neighborhood and just gave yourself a nickname.
Get the fuck out of here.
We're calling you this.
joe rogan
Exactly!
Exactly.
unidentified
Nah, man.
brendan schaub
I'm the Dark Knight.
No, you're not.
joe rogan
Well, that's what I like about Brazilians.
They all have silly nicknames, like Shoe Face.
brendan schaub
Tree Stump?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's great.
They have fun nicknames.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
If it's 2018 and you're just starting out and you call yourself the Pitbull, fuck off.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out of my face.
Get out of here, man.
unidentified
Fuck off.
brendan schaub
There's some that are off limits.
Is that the most common one?
joe rogan
It might be.
brendan schaub
That might be.
Pitbull's There's about seven pitbulls in Bellator.
There's three in UFC at least.
joe rogan
And there's girls too.
brendan schaub
Isn't there other cool dogs?
Jack Russell.
That's the coolest one.
joe rogan
They're cool.
They designed to hunt rats.
Those are rat hunters.
Have you ever seen that Netflix documentary where they use Jack Russell terriers to get rats?
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Yo, it's crazy.
unidentified
Damn, it's perfect.
brendan schaub
I don't feel like I want to watch that.
joe rogan
They tear them apart.
eddie bravo
For an hour?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
The documentary's all on how fucked up rats are and how many of them are.
brendan schaub
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
You ever see that?
Dude, it will freaking stop.
eddie bravo
And they use Jack Russells to go after rats?
joe rogan
Yeah, that is why Jack Russells are so aggressive.
Little Terriers, it's one of the reasons why they're so aggressive is because they're constantly chasing after these fucking rats.
When they get them, they tear these rats apart, man.
Look at that.
eddie bravo
Damn.
brendan schaub
Dude, those are some bush league dogs.
That's a mix.
The Jamie, that's from the movie?
jamie vernon
These are, but there's a bunch of them.
These are all.
joe rogan
But Jack Russell Terriers in particular, one of the reasons why they're so small and so aggressive, they would go into holes and go after rats.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at the blood on the back.
Where the fuck are they?
A Michael Vick video.
joe rogan
Dark place.
brendan schaub
Ugh.
joe rogan
But this documentary will freak you the fuck out.
There's more rats than there are people in New York City.
brendan schaub
Aren't there like 30 million or 60 million rats or some shit?
unidentified
Something insane.
joe rogan
Something crazy.
Something insane.
brendan schaub
And they have like all sorts of diseases.
joe rogan
Everything that can kill you.
They have all kinds of deadly shit.
You just don't get it.
Because most people don't get bit by rats.
brendan schaub
And they're smart.
But we need rats though, right?
Don't they eat the trash?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Do they eat the trash?
brendan schaub
How come we just can't just breed rats and just throw them in the dump and just have them eat?
unidentified
I don't think they eat like fucking milk containers.
joe rogan
Breed Eddie Bravo's got a rat breeding service.
Releases them in the dump.
Yo, they eat cans.
brendan schaub
Plastic!
joe rogan
Yeah, but now we gotta get rid of the rat shit.
Oh, fuck.
I didn't think of that.
brendan schaub
Hey, use it as fertilizer.
Dude, that can't be good for the dog's mouth.
joe rogan
Jimmy Manoa.
Boom, boom, boom.
brendan schaub
He's a fun hot minute.
joe rogan
When did he fight last?
brendan schaub
He lost to somebody.
I thought he starched homeboy, the wrestler.
joe rogan
Oh, Nordin Taleb.
He's very good.
That guy's good.
He's nasty.
Isn't he TriStar?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he is.
He looks like the guy with the rose in his mouth from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out.
joe rogan
He does!
brendan schaub
Doesn't he?
joe rogan
He does!
brendan schaub
Identical.
joe rogan
He does.
Darren Till's got some prominent cheekbones, huh?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does.
joe rogan
Gorilla-like.
I bet that's why he got that nickname, the Gorilla.
He looks like he's got at least 5% Neanderthal.
brendan schaub
Do you think someone gave him that nickname?
joe rogan
The Gorilla?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I hope so.
brendan schaub
Me too.
That bumps me out.
eddie bravo
When people give themselves their own nicknames.
joe rogan
I call myself the gorilla.
eddie bravo
I hated my nickname the Twister so much.
brendan schaub
I hated that shit because it sounds pretty homosexual.
The Twister?
Yeah.
Because Higgin and Jean-Jacques would always call me that.
eddie bravo
Because of the guillotine.
They called the wrestlers guillotine the Twister.
brendan schaub
And I asked Jean-Jacques, I'm like, how do you say the Twister in Portuguese?
And he goes, Tornado.
I go, can you call me that?
That sounds way better.
Tornado's sick!
eddie bravo
Yeah, call me that.
brendan schaub
That sounds sexy.
eddie bravo
They would never call me that.
I kept calling me Twister.
brendan schaub
And it started sounding good when I'd compete and people would start yelling at Twister.
eddie bravo
Then I thought, okay, okay, I think I like it now.
brendan schaub
I dig it, man.
joe rogan
Tornado.
brendan schaub
Tornado.
I just kept thinking of the game, the twister and the yellow dots and the green dots.
joe rogan
You should get a tattoo that says El Tornado.
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
That's fucking dope.
brendan schaub
It never stuck.
joe rogan
Why don't you get...
It's sticking right now.
brendan schaub
No, I'm going to call you that.
eddie bravo
Tornado?
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
That's way better than the Twister.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a great word.
brendan schaub
Sounds sexy.
unidentified
Tornado.
brendan schaub
Sounds dangerous.
unidentified
Tornado.
Tornado.
brendan schaub
This summer.
joe rogan
Tornado.
eddie bravo
There you go.
joe rogan
That would be a great license plate if you could fit all those words.
brendan schaub
Tornado.
eddie bravo
Tornado with an O. Wait a minute.
Tornado does have a no.
unidentified
It's the exact same thing.
joe rogan
It's A. There's an A in there.
brendan schaub
Oh, we're just saying it different.
joe rogan
Instead of tornado, no, there's to-ra-na-do.
There's an A in there.
brendan schaub
In English it's tornade.
Tornade.
And in Spanish it's tornado.
joe rogan
Is it?
eddie bravo
No, I'm just not.
joe rogan
Tora.
The A. Toranado.
That's what makes it dope.
brendan schaub
You can't pick your nickname.
Like, Callan called me Big Brown for the longest.
I'm like, why is it?
Because you're Big fucking Brown.
That's just what...
And then I would walk by, people would yell out, Big Brown!
It's like, alright, well, fuck it.
eddie bravo
That's stuck, right?
joe rogan
That's a good nickname.
brendan schaub
Kind of.
It's fun.
joe rogan
It's a fun nickname.
Yeah.
That's good.
eddie bravo
Do you have a nickname?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
That's just from you.
Yeah, that's it.
brendan schaub
But even when you were doing Taekwondo, no one gave you a nickname?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Joe.
joe rogan
No.
When I was playing pool a lot, I was Joe the Comedian.
brendan schaub
Dude, GSP went off on the podcast he just did on your turning sidekick.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
Talk about endorsements, man.
unidentified
He was critiquing it?
brendan schaub
That's GSP for a half an hour is going on about his power.
It's incredible.
No shit, George.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
That's GSP going off on Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
We trained a little afterwards.
I switched my mats out.
I had those zebra mats that are super smooth.
No bueno.
Too smooth.
Too slick.
brendan schaub
No good for striking at all.
You should do a DVD on throwing kicks.
DVD? What is it?
1997?
joe rogan
Some sort of a video.
eddie bravo
People still, you know, John Danaher just put out a DVD. Well, he put out a video series, but I think it's on demand, right?
brendan schaub
I bet he did.
He's still wearing Wranglers and fucking Under Armour tops, of course, but on TV TV. Hey, bro, he's got a strong fanny pack game.
joe rogan
He's got a strong fanny pack game.
brendan schaub
These are all great points!
joe rogan
Yeah, I would do that.
George and I, we went over the front leg sidekick first, which is like the most important part, the turning sidekick.
Once you get the front leg sidekick down, you understand how that works, then you turn.
And then it's basically you're turning and then throwing the front leg sidekick.
It's just got like an extra push to it.
But most people do the front leg sidekick wrong.
Their knee is too low.
When your knee is too low, you lose all the power.
eddie bravo
Crazy shit.
brendan schaub
You think he's going to fight at 55, yeah?
joe rogan
I think he's going to fight at 55, 100%.
He's only 185 pounds.
eddie bravo
GSP? Yeah.
He's going to fight at 55?
joe rogan
100%.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
And he's only doing it once, and it's going to be the winner of Conor Khabib.
joe rogan
See, look at this.
This is what Wonderboy does that's weird.
That sideways stance is hard to fuck with, man.
I used to spar with this guy named Larry Jones.
Larry Jones was this dude who was like...
He was like 6'2", but his fucking legs went all the way up to his armpits, man.
brendan schaub
He had a long...
eddie bravo
He had crazy legs.
brendan schaub
Is that the guy that was standing in front of the bag when you first walked by that taekwondo school?
joe rogan
No, that was John Lee.
brendan schaub
John Lee.
joe rogan
He was another tall dude.
brendan schaub
Black dude or Chinese dude?
joe rogan
Black dude.
John Lee was a beast.
brendan schaub
That could easily be a Chinese dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be.
Yeah, if you heard it, but he was like six foot two, black as coal, bad motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Dude, that's the beginning of the movie, dude.
You walking by that Taekwondo, you just whoosh!
joe rogan
Dude, that guy hit so hard.
I saw him flatten a lot of people with that, too.
But...
Anyway, my friend Larry Jones, I was too short.
I'm 5'8".
When I would spar with him, my legs were normal length.
He was 6'2", and I just could not get past that front leg sidekick.
That front leg sidekick is so hard, and they can just move around with you.
It's basically like a jab, and they can move around with you.
brendan schaub
And they're safe, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're trying to get an angle on them.
There's actually a thing on Henzo's Instagram the other day.
We had a photo of Hickson throwing a sidekick, and he was talking about how Hickson liked the sidekick best for Vali Tudo because you never lost your base.
Like if you throw a roundhouse kick, you throw the kick, you're spinning around, you're resetting.
eddie bravo
He was kind of throwing like a front push kick sidekick.
joe rogan
Yep.
eddie bravo
And out of all the Gracies, it looked like Hickson threw it with the most power.
Because Hoist would throw it, but it didn't look powerful.
But when you watch Hoist-Sakuraba 2, when it was at the Coliseum, that's a forgotten fight.
brendan schaub
Watch how Hoist would be on his back and Sakuraba standing over him.
There's like purgatory Sakuraba standing.
eddie bravo
Hoist throws sidekicks off his back, dude.
joe rogan
At the knee.
brendan schaub
Dude.
eddie bravo
Better than anybody I've ever seen.
He's on his side and he was throwing some serious sidekicks off his back and fucking up Sakuraba's knees.
brendan schaub
I've never seen anybody throw him that hard.
joe rogan
If you remember, Hickson did that to Funaki when Funaki got Hickson down.
Funaki broke Hickson's orbital.
People forget that was Hickson's greatest victory because Funaki was the guy that people were saying, well...
He's such a good grappler.
If he went to the ground with Hickson, he could actually hang with Hickson.
But he cracked Hickson with a big right hand, hurt him, fucked up his eye, broke his orbital, and they went to the ground.
And as Finaki was standing over Hickson, Hickson fucked his knees up.
He fucked his knees up with sidekicks off of his back.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's huge.
unidentified
Huge.
brendan schaub
And no one practices that shit.
joe rogan
No, no.
eddie bravo
It's tough practice.
And Henzo...
Would practice upkicks specifically, just in case he was in that purgatory position where he could, boom!
brendan schaub
And it worked against Oleg Tochtarov, remember that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
That was the first upkick.
brendan schaub
First upkick KO. Yep, and I think it was either, I think Murillo Bustamante did it to Jerry Bolander, or it was either Fabio Giorgio to Bolander or Bustamante to Bolander.
eddie bravo
Upkick, boom!
Took him out, bam!
brendan schaub
You know, upkicks are now legal in combat jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
They're legal?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Upkicks are legal?
brendan schaub
Upkicks are legal.
unidentified
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
How hard was that to get past?
eddie bravo
You know what?
brendan schaub
In amateur MMA, upkicks are legal.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
Amateur MMA, upkicks are legal.
eddie bravo
We added them to combat jiu-jitsu because guys were getting too comfortable in purgatory.
brendan schaub
Just standing over Other guys, they didn't want to go into anybody's guard.
eddie bravo
That could kill the show.
So now with the threat, it's really easy to deal with upkicks.
brendan schaub
So all they gotta do is just get to their knees and start passing.
They gotta engage.
eddie bravo
Yeah, just engage.
Because you rarely see upkicks in MMA. Rarely.
Because they're so easy to deal with.
brendan schaub
But the threat of them will keep you either away from purgatory or get on your knees and commence to passing.
That's what it's all about.
You were about to say Mousasi Jacare?
joe rogan
Yeah, he knocked out Jacare with an up kick.
brendan schaub
And then triangle choked him.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
He fell into a triangle.
unidentified
Yeah, there's been probably, I would say, seven.
brendan schaub
Like seven total up kicks in history.
eddie bravo
Something like that.
So, we're not adding up kicks to combat jiu-jitsu to increase KOs.
brendan schaub
We're adding it to increase the ground fight.
Yeah, that makes sense.
eddie bravo
Don't stand over the guy.
brendan schaub
Let's pass.
eddie bravo
Let's go.
Yeah, let's get to it.
brendan schaub
That's smart.
joe rogan
Super smart.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love combat jiu-jitsu.
I love the rule set.
I love what it does.
It opens up the reality aspect.
You understand that you can't just do certain things.
You're going to get smacked in the face hard.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it keeps your jiu-jitsu honest.
eddie bravo
That's it.
Don't get too crazy.
brendan schaub
Dude, I forgot Holly Holm versus Megan Anderson.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a barn burner, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a big fight for Anderson.
It's her first shot at the UFC. And right away, Holly Holm.
brendan schaub
Is there anybody that could give Cyborg a match?
A good competition?
joe rogan
Uriah Faber?
brendan schaub
Uriah Faber.
There's not a woman who's going to give her any challenge.
joe rogan
Uriah Faber?
eddie bravo
Would it be illegal for Cyborg to fight a man?
joe rogan
No, it's not illegal.
brendan schaub
In the Soul Me Too movement?
How sick would that be?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
That's a different...
brendan schaub
Do you know what I'm saying, though?
eddie bravo
Me Too has nothing to do with that.
joe rogan
Me Too is about sexual assault, bro.
brendan schaub
I know.
I know, brother.
And I'm not saying your own favorite did that.
But you paint this story.
You mark it.
She comes out with Me Too and just beats the shit out of a dude.
eddie bravo
Rose McGowan's in her corner.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Fuck her up, Cyborg!
Harvey Weinstein comes out of the floor right behind Uriah.
brendan schaub
CM Punk's fighting on main events.
eddie bravo
CM Punk against Cyborg?
That would be great.
unidentified
That's what I said.
eddie bravo
Oh, you just said it?
brendan schaub
No, I said that before.
unidentified
Oh, you have.
brendan schaub
You want to make bank or not, bro?
joe rogan
What would she do to him?
brendan schaub
She would knock his head off into fucking...
I mean, it'd be like a cartoon.
unidentified
Just goof!
eddie bravo
Weren't you guys saying that guys could never...
An MMA fighter would always beat a girl, right?
Weren't you guys saying that?
When we were talking about Ronda Rousey back in the day?
I said that.
brendan schaub
He said Ronda could beat Mike Tyson.
eddie bravo
No, I said Godzilla.
unidentified
I said Godzilla.
eddie bravo
Did you say Ronda could be Mike Tyson?
No, I'm fucking with him.
brendan schaub
He got shit for that.
I'm fucking with him.
eddie bravo
Or the flying arm bar, maybe.
brendan schaub
No.
He would still slam her to the ground.
eddie bravo
Even today?
brendan schaub
He's like 50. Yeah, I did a podcast and it was rough.
She would be in his ass right now.
But I think...
joe rogan
Is it rough?
Is he doing bad?
brendan schaub
Not doing bad.
Especially as me growing up with Mike Tyson, they say never meet your heroes, so I think of him as that Mike Tyson in my head.
And then when I saw him, he had sweats on and some white New Balances and he was out of shape.
joe rogan
You got a problem with his fashion?
eddie bravo
What's wrong with New Balance?
joe rogan
Right away, you're like, his fashion's off.
brendan schaub
Sweats.
It's not a Sunday afternoon leisure time.
It's the middle of the day.
eddie bravo
He was on your podcast?
brendan schaub
I was on his.
joe rogan
You are hilarious with your fashion.
unidentified
You really give a fuck that he wore sweatpants.
brendan schaub
Your total respect, bro.
joe rogan
What is it with you in fashion?
That makes no sense to me.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
I would have never brought it up.
Him wearing sweatpants and New Balance.
I'd be like, yeah, he wants to be comfortable.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'm not trying to fuck the guy.
Show a little pride.
joe rogan
No, I don't want to fuck him.
brendan schaub
It's like I saw...
joe rogan
I don't get it.
brendan schaub
It's like I saw Bret Hart in Calgary.
I go out and they're like, he's in the front row.
I go out there and he's in matching sweatsuit top to bottom.
I thought, fuck.
unidentified
Fuck, bro!
brendan schaub
It's Saturday night, man!
You have my show!
Wait, wait, wait.
joe rogan
He's in Canada, and he's a former pro wrestler, right?
That's what you're talking about?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
He's in Canada.
That's like a three-piece suit up there.
unidentified
What are you doing?
brendan schaub
What are you doing?
joe rogan
A Saturday night?
brendan schaub
You're out on the town.
You can't wear sweats.
joe rogan
That's how they roll up there.
They're just happy it's not 150 below zero.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you might be right.
joe rogan
They're very happy.
They're wearing something nice and light.
brendan schaub
I judge people, though, man.
joe rogan
Probably a nice sweatsuit, right?
brendan schaub
It's kind of like the McGregor matching grays, you know?
What the fuck is wrong with that?
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with that?
That looks fresh.
brendan schaub
You're crazy.
You're crazy, man.
joe rogan
Dude.
I have terrible fashion.
You can't listen to me.
brendan schaub
You don't, though.
You have jeans.
You always have a nice shirt.
You have your fanny pack.
Fanny packs are back in the game now.
joe rogan
I brought that shit back.
brendan schaub
Come on.
joe rogan
I want 10% of the credit.
brendan schaub
Fannies are back.
joe rogan
I want 10% of the credit for bringing that shit back.
brendan schaub
I just posted this thing on Hypes.
joe rogan
I might have more than 10% of the credit.
I'm being humble.
brendan schaub
You're the guy who I know who's ride or die about fanny packs, and then Krokop still fucks with it, but he's unaware on how big of an impact he had on it.
joe rogan
He's in Croatia.
They don't know what time it is over there.
brendan schaub
They all wear fanny packs, you know?
joe rogan
Yo, dude, I wore fanny packs back in the 90s.
I never stopped.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're first team all fanny packs.
joe rogan
Damn, Nordeem Taleb's going off.
brendan schaub
He just picked him up and slammed the shit out of him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, he's good, man.
Nordeem is very good.
I never stopped with the fanny pack.
brendan schaub
No, you just ride through it.
Even people are like, dude, Joe's fanny pack.
I'm like, I know, man.
joe rogan
There's a photo of me.
Yeah, I sell the shit out of him.
I'm always out of stock.
brendan schaub
My boy wants one bad.
We're at Disneyland.
Are we close to MMA and the Olympics?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, we are.
Holy shit.
They're working on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're trying.
brendan schaub
Can you imagine that?
joe rogan
Well, it would be amazing.
brendan schaub
I can't imagine it.
joe rogan
It would be amazing.
brendan schaub
Now, would Russia just win all the belts?
joe rogan
What?
What about Americans, man?
Fucking situation.
brendan schaub
I mean, Russia would be tough, man.
joe rogan
Well, it really depends entirely on drug testing.
brendan schaub
They'll figure it out.
I mean, Russians, when it comes to boxing, combat sports, Russia's really...
joe rogan
They're pretty fucking good.
brendan schaub
Would Dagestan be considered Russia?
joe rogan
Well, the thing is, though...
brendan schaub
That's what I was putting under the same banner.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But the thing is, what would happen is, if it did become huge in the Olympics, then people would realize how guys like Floyd Mayweather and so many different professional boxers got their start as Olympic gold medalists and then went on to become these huge superstars in boxing.
Lomachenko's another good example.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you have a real great amateur background, people get super amped up about seeing you go pro.
Andre Ward, yeah.
Anthony Joshua.
You get super amped up about seeing those guys go pro.
brendan schaub
In America, it's a little different, though, for whatever reason, when it comes to boxing.
We don't get behind it like the other countries.
joe rogan
But we used to.
With Mark Breland, remember those days?
With Tyrell Biggs.
We used to love it.
We used to love it when a guy was an Olympic gold medal.
Pernell Whitaker.
You know?
Ray Mercer.
brendan schaub
We still love it.
I mean, I said Andre Ward, but it's still...
Look at this.
Leg lock.
Deontay Wilder is a bronze medalist, which ain't bad because he started boxing at like 21. Oh, shit.
Anytime you hit them double outside ashies in MMA, they're risky.
joe rogan
Well, it's such a weird position to find yourself in if a guy can punch you in the face.
And again, it goes back to your combat jiu-jitsu.
Oh, monta.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
It goes back to your combat jujitsu.
You understand what positions are like super dangerous because there's positions that guys regularly practice in jujitsu that will get you fucked up if a guy can punch you in the face.
brendan schaub
Exactly.
That's what it's all about.
joe rogan
Combat jujitsu is such a good idea.
brendan schaub
Thank you, man.
And it's going well, right, Eddie?
It's exciting.
Does the UFC being acquired by ESPN affect the Fight Pass and EBI at all?
unidentified
Not at all.
brendan schaub
Because are they going to continue with the Fight Pass?
Oh, hell yeah.
Are you sure?
eddie bravo
As a matter of fact, the president of Fight Pass, when that deal went through, emailed me personally to let me know.
He goes, listen, this deal has nothing to do with Fight Pass.
joe rogan
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Game overs.
joe rogan
Oh, body triangle.
Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.
Can you hang in there for 40 seconds?
I don't think so, son.
brendan schaub
No, he's in trouble.
eddie bravo
He's got to cinch it up.
joe rogan
He's tapping.
eddie bravo
He's about to tap.
No, it's on the chin.
joe rogan
Oh, he's out.
brendan schaub
I almost broke his jaw.
joe rogan
Damn.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's pretty strong.
The only problem you'd have to worry about is now that people are going to have to subscribe to ESPN +, to get the full ESPN experience now, they're going to have to pay for that?
And...
Fight Pass.
joe rogan
Is that real?
brendan schaub
Oh, that's real.
eddie bravo
Fight Pass doesn't really change at all.
brendan schaub
They're not getting rid of Fight Pass at all.
They're not getting rid of it as far as it growing could be an issue.
I think the fan base stays.
joe rogan
How does that work though?
They're gonna stream some fights still on Fight Pass.
brendan schaub
No.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
brendan schaub
ESPN's gonna take all that content.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
Because you have, right?
Because now ESPN Plus and ESPN Platform's going to have 30 fights.
Then ESPN's going to have 12 pay-per-views at least.
So you have 42 fights a year now.
joe rogan
So there's no fight past cards?
brendan schaub
I could be wrong.
Jamie, correct me if I'm wrong.
joe rogan
There's no fight past cards?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
I think it's just going to be a database for stuff like Eddie's, old school fight libraries, and then, you know.
joe rogan
That's a tough sell.
brendan schaub
That's a tough sell.
I don't think it's going to grow.
I think it's going to continue what it's doing.
And stuff like Eddie's might grow, but...
People are going to be awesome.
I'll see more ESPN Plus packaging.
joe rogan
That's a tough sell because I love it.
I think Fight Pass is awesome, and if you want to just go old school and watch a bunch of great old fights, it's the best format on the planet Earth.
brendan schaub
If you're a hardcore fan.
joe rogan
If you're a hardcore fan.
But I like the fact that we would have the prelims, some fights that you couldn't see anywhere else but Fight Pass, and then they would have certain Fight Pass cards.
How many times have we watched do Fight Companions?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
With the entire car.
But now you can do it on ESPN. Look at that shit.
That is nasty.
brendan schaub
But now you can do it on ESPN Plus, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Could be.
joe rogan
Right, but you gotta pay for that.
eddie bravo
Is ESPN Plus, is that online?
joe rogan
You gotta pay for another thing now.
eddie bravo
That's online?
brendan schaub
It's digital.
ESPN Plus is a digital app.
joe rogan
Eddie, what could he have done to get out of this?
What could he do to get out of this, Eddie?
eddie bravo
He's got to peel that arm off his neck.
brendan schaub
It's a little late.
It's too late at this point, right, Eddie?
eddie bravo
Once you get to that spot, what could he do?
A couple things.
You've got to protect your neck, obviously.
And then he's got to get up to the leg press position where he could get up on...
brendan schaub
He's doing a leg press pushing back.
eddie bravo
That'll relieve some of the pressure.
brendan schaub
And then eventually get over to the side of the cinched body triangle and try to break that shit apart.
eddie bravo
You've got to break those body triangles apart.
brendan schaub
You've got to move fast.
eddie bravo
You've got to prevent them from happening in the first place.
As soon as someone takes your back, first thing is don't let it get too deep.
brendan schaub
And by too deep, that means body triangle.
Don't let that shit happen.
What were you going to say, Jamie?
jamie vernon
The Fight Pass thing, so the ESPN deal is U.S. only, it says.
So that'd be for U.S. broadcasts only, and Fight Pass is still for the rest of the world.
So that'd be the big difference.
eddie bravo
Yeah, they assured me.
I didn't even ask.
They said, dude, don't even trip.
unidentified
You didn't ask?
eddie bravo
They sent me an email saying, don't worry about it.
We're not getting rid of EBI. We love you.
brendan schaub
Don't even trip.
So in America, it's just going to affect Fight Pass and the UFC. Everyone else, they're good to go.
But also, there's no really pay-per-views internationally.
They get it for free.
Like in Brazil, all the stuff's free.
There's no pay-per-views in Brazil.
joe rogan
Right, they're watching on Globo.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they get it all free.
It's right there.
joe rogan
ESPN broadcast deal that includes 10 full UFC cards or primary ESPN channels, ESPN, ESPN2, along with the prelims for a dozen UFC pay-per-view events.
Another 20 fight cards will stream on ESPN +, totaling 30 full events annually between ESPN's broadcast and streaming outlets.
All full fight cards are expected to have 12 bouts.
Addition...
Additional and shoulder UFC programs such as Dana White's Contender Series, a new all-access series, and pre- and post-fight shows and more are also included in the deal.
Oh, that's interesting.
No, tough anymore.
brendan schaub
Tough is done.
Tough is done, from my understanding.
So the Dana White's Contender Series is going to kind of be the focus now, which I think is good.
joe rogan
It's better.
brendan schaub
Tough is done.
joe rogan
Listen, man, making those dudes stay in that house for six weeks and all that crazy shit, I don't like it.
brendan schaub
Who are you telling?
So even with DC and Stipe, who are light heavyweight champion of the world, heavyweight champion of the world, and you get the insight on those guys, even those ratings suck dick.
It's just not going well.
It's 27 seasons deep!
joe rogan
It's a tired format.
brendan schaub
Yeah, everyone's just over it.
And no stars come from it anymore.
joe rogan
But the Contender Series is great.
brendan schaub
Contender Series is good.
Sean O'Malley came from there.
You got Greg Hardy fighting on there.
joe rogan
Who's that guy that knocked out Tiago Alves?
Didn't he come from there as well?
Am I wrong about that?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
The biggest one is Sean O'Malley, but then you're also going to have a homeboy.
Why am I forgetting his name?
Sorry, dude.
The guy with the arm.
Come on.
unidentified
Nick Newell.
brendan schaub
Nick Newell.
12-fight win streak.
Holy shit.
Nick Newell's going to beat the shit out of people on the Contenders.
He should not be on there.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
brendan schaub
God, no.
He fought for a world title against Justin Gaethje.
joe rogan
But it's good to get him exposure and let people know how good he is.
brendan schaub
I guess.
Depends how many people are watching Contender Series.
joe rogan
You've got some real potential talent out there.
I think the real thing about what's interesting about the Contender Series is now people you've never heard of are very good.
I mean, how many people do we know that are just guys in the gym?
They're like, dude, that guy is fucking good.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and they just don't get a break.
joe rogan
They never fought, or they've had one amateur fight, or something like that, but you realize, like, when you see them roll with, like, really good guys, like, holy shit, this guy's, like, just a hair below a world-class level.
There's so many guys like that now, because it's such a popular sport.
No, no, no.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying he has the potential to face one of those guys in the Contender Series.
brendan schaub
See, I almost think that's the opposite of what they should be doing.
Because if I'm a young dude, I'm trying to get my break in, and I'm in the Contender Series, and you give me Nick Newell, who has 17 fights, who's 17 and 1. Right.
Fuck, man.
Why can't I fight a young guy?
And this is coming from a guy who had three fights, who fought Roy Nelson in the finale.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
I was like, what the fuck are we doing?
eddie bravo
You want to blow up.
You got to fight.
I mean...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
eddie bravo
It's not like they're fighting the...
The UFC world champion, you know, you gotta get in there and prove yourself.
Yeah, you gotta go in there and beat those guys.
brendan schaub
But other guys aren't fighting that competition.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
It should be a lower class of competition.
brendan schaub
Yeah, for someone, they're gonna be like, dude, I draw Nick Newell?
Sean O'Malley was fighting guys of his same similar and blew up, just knocking dudes out.
Now he's a star.
joe rogan
Well, maybe it'll be like one or two fights and then they'll get Nick in the UFC. It should be one so they're familiar with it and then go.
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
But he's going to be tough, man.
If he gets into that division, he's going to be tough to beat.
It's an inspiring story, too.
I would market the shit out of that, man.
I think they're worried that if he gets head kicked, which he's never been knocked out from the head kick, they're worried with his arm, if he can't defend it and he gets brutally knocked out, people are like, how would you...
joe rogan
How can you put that guy on TV? Well, you gotta realize, too, think about how much your arm weighs.
Like, I mean, it's not an advantage by any stretch of the imagination, but the rest of him is bigger and heavier.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what is, I mean, how much do you think he's missing?
10 pounds?
brendan schaub
You think?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
How much?
brendan schaub
How much does an average arm weigh, Jamie?
That's gotta be 10 pounds.
No, 8 pounds?
6 pounds?
joe rogan
Dude, I think mine is about 100. No, seriously.
brendan schaub
Guys that grapple, there's a guy that grapples without a leg, and his upper body is that of a dude that's two weight classes above the guys he's fighting.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
What does it say, Jamie?
unidentified
Eight pounds.
joe rogan
Eight pounds what?
The whole arm?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's the whole arm.
jamie vernon
An average arm weighs about 5% of your body weight.
joe rogan
Okay, but that's the whole arm.
See, Nick has the upper arm.
Nick has down to the elbow.
He's down past the elbow.
brendan schaub
He's about right here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So let's say his, yeah, it's not that big of an advantage.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
brendan schaub
There's a wrestler world champion.
joe rogan
Oh, Jason Knight, Maquan Armand, Connie's next.
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Boy, Jason Knight found some tough times.
He started off super hot and then lost his last two.
joe rogan
Well, who did he fight?
He stepped way too far up.
unidentified
He got Llamas.
brendan schaub
Let's relax.
joe rogan
That was a crazy idea.
That was crazy.
Llamas is world title contender.
brendan schaub
He's the guy no one wants to fight.
joe rogan
He's not a huge name.
brendan schaub
He's just a fucking monster.
joe rogan
All across the board.
Yeah.
They're like, okay, you beat Shaus Skelly, and he lost to Benitez, too.
He lost to Mowgli.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man, it's tough.
He got knocked out by Llamas.
joe rogan
He got knocked out by Llamas, and then he comes back, and he lost to Mowgli.
brendan schaub
Performance of the night.
joe rogan
This is a tough fight, man.
Maquan Amircani might be the toughest fight out of all three of those.
brendan schaub
More than Ricardo Lamas?
joe rogan
Dude, he's dangerous as fuck.
brendan schaub
Ricardo Lamas is...
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right, you're right.
But this Maquan Amircani is a wild motherfucker.
He does a lot of crazy shit.
brendan schaub
Lamas just chills in the top six.
I mean, he's just there.
joe rogan
World class.
brendan schaub
Get some.
joe rogan
I'm gonna have him on with his dad.
brendan schaub
Ricardo Lamas?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've been, like, leaving him alone if he thinks I forgot.
I haven't forgot.
His dad is, like, a Cuban exile.
His dad left Cuba, and his dad...
brendan schaub
You don't have Joey in here, too?
No, no, no.
joe rogan
His dad speaks perfect.
He speaks perfect English and Spanish, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know Ricardo does.
joe rogan
Yeah, so I gotta talk to him.
I just didn't want to fuck with him before his fight.
He's got a big fight in Chicago.
Yeah.
That is very interesting.
We're looking at the commercial for Miocic.
Stipe versus Daniel Cormier.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
What's the latest with Jon Jones?
What's going on?
joe rogan
Dude, I wish I knew.
brendan schaub
He's still waiting to see what exact suspension is, but the word is he's gonna fight, you know, fairly soon.
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I root so hard for that dude.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
But why?
joe rogan
Because he's a beast.
A bad motherfucker.
And I think in his heart, he's a very good guy.
I really do.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I really believe that.
Even though what?
He does fucked up things and he makes mistakes, but I think John, in his heart, is a very good guy.
I really do.
I just think he just makes poor choices and he's wild.
And one of the reasons why we love him is that wildness.
brendan schaub
I like that he's wild.
Yeah, I don't like that he hurts people, but it's typically when guys act like that, I usually write them off like, fuck that, dude.
But with him, he's so talented.
I literally think he's the best of all time to grace the octagon.
I want to see him back, and I think he comes back at heavyweight.
I think he beats the brakes off Brock.
I think his comeback fight is Brock, and then he fights for the heavyweight title against the winner of Stipe DC. That would be amazing.
joe rogan
That would be amazing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the U.S. needs that.
They need that.
That's what I would do.
ESPN, you like this deal?
Here's to 2019. Woo!
joe rogan
Dude, I had the weirdest dream that I had shorts on with no underwear and I jerked off in my car.
I came all over myself and I couldn't figure out what to do and then I had to go and meet some friends and I was outside the door and for some reason Kyle Kingsbury was in there.
I got a problem.
I'm like, I'm covered with my own jizz, and I don't have any underwear, and I just have my shorts on.
And then I woke up going, what the fuck is wrong with me?
brendan schaub
Did you have a wet dream, though?
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
Really?
unidentified
No!
brendan schaub
Even though you busted in your dream?
joe rogan
No, it was the weirdest dream of all time.
brendan schaub
I've never had a dream that I jacked off.
unidentified
I jerked off my car.
brendan schaub
You haven't?
I've never had a jerk-off train.
Which car was it, though?
This is a big...
unidentified
Ever.
brendan schaub
What car was it, Joe?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know.
eddie bravo
Have you had a dream where you jacked off before?
brendan schaub
I've had a dream where I'm having sex.
I've busted in my bed.
joe rogan
It's a nightmare.
eddie bravo
It's like, fuck, man.
Wait a minute, you had a dream you had sex and you actually busted a nut?
brendan schaub
It's called a wet dream, Eddie.
eddie bravo
I thought those were a myth.
joe rogan
My dream was like, I had to figure out, I was going to meet some people and apparently didn't have any underwear on, I didn't have a shirt on, and I had to crack the door open.
I'm like, dude, I got a problem.
You gotta help me up.
And then I woke up going, what?
What the fuck kind of thought is that?
Where's this even coming from?
brendan schaub
It's rare I remember my dreams.
It's weird you remember yours.
I remember mine last night.
I was walking around.
I was backstage at Bellator.
I was going to fight someone.
I can't remember.
And I was like, I'm not doing this.
I remember I was like pleading to him.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not fucking ready, man.
I don't want to do this.
I don't need this.
I'm like arguing with someone.
eddie bravo
I'm like, go out there.
brendan schaub
I'm like, no!
joe rogan
No!
That's a weird thing.
That's like one of them, I gotta go back to high school and graduate things.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that was strange.
joe rogan
Did you ever have those dreams?
eddie bravo
Oh, the time.
unidentified
I used to have nightmares.
eddie bravo
Oh, you could never remember your locker.
brendan schaub
The combination for your locker.
eddie bravo
Like, how do I open this motherfucker?
joe rogan
My nightmares were credits.
I was too many credits shy of graduating high school.
They were making me go back another year.
You're like, no!
brendan schaub
Wait, you graduated high school?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I did, but you remember when you were in high school, there was always that one dude that somehow or another fucked up and had to repeat his senior year.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
So he's 18, everybody else is 17, this fucking dude is in high school with you.
brendan schaub
He's the Jeep Wrangler.
joe rogan
He's just sad.
He's losing the year of his life.
eddie bravo
It didn't work out.
brendan schaub
I have this recurring nightmare that I don't think it's supposed to be a nightmare.
I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but it always turns into a nightmare because when I used to DJ at strip clubs, I had a good time.
eddie bravo
It was always fun.
And then I dream about it.
I dream about it.
And the problem is...
brendan schaub
To be a strip club DJ, you got to know your CDs and the girls that are going up and you're matching up the songs with the girls.
eddie bravo
You got to be sharp.
brendan schaub
Because they all want their different songs.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
So in my dream, I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but I can never read the CDs and the managers getting mad at me.
I'm like, what girl's on stage?
brendan schaub
And the only CD that I remember, the only one is The Crystal Method because that was my go-to CD. No other CDs.
eddie bravo
I'm like, oh, I could always pull that one out.
brendan schaub
As your default?
Yeah, because, you know, you got to change the song every two minutes and 45 seconds because every song means money for the club.
They're all getting lap dances.
So if you let a song go three and a half or four minutes, the manager will get on your ass.
eddie bravo
What the fuck?
It's three and a half minutes.
unidentified
It's stressful.
eddie bravo
It's very stressful.
So if there's a girl, a girl's bus about to go on stage and 15 seconds before she goes on stage, she goes, skip me.
I got a lap dance and we're over.
brendan schaub
You fucked up, bitch.
eddie bravo
I'm like, oh shit.
I got 15 seconds to find a replacement and to change the music.
unidentified
I got a playlist.
brendan schaub
I got a playlist.
eddie bravo
Yeah, so in my dream, I'm having a fucking nightmare.
brendan schaub
I'm like, I can't see the girl on stage, and I can't see my sissies.
It sounds like a nightmare.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's a total nightmare.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to get fired.
unidentified
What am I going to do now?
eddie bravo
I never figure, in my dream ever, do I realize that I make money teaching jiu-jitsu.
Never.
It's always, I lose my job, and I'm like, what am I going to do now?
And then I wake up, and I'm like...
brendan schaub
I teach jujitsu.
I'm fine.
You're the one in between the tracks.
Like, all right, ladies and gentlemen, bring up Dandy on stage seven.
joe rogan
No, but he never did it that way.
He didn't have the fake strip club.
eddie bravo
Oh, no, no, no, I did.
You have to have the fake.
No, you have to have it.
You have to because if you talk regularly to the main stage, no, it was always, it was always my Simpsons DJ strip club voice.
unidentified
All right, guys, put those hands together for London.
brendan schaub
See, that's kind of cool.
eddie bravo
No, but you have to say, you have to do that goofy voice to cut through.
brendan schaub
Otherwise, people can't hear you.
eddie bravo
If you just get on a mic in a strip club and you just talk like...
brendan schaub
Hey, Kelly's on table seven over there.
It won't cut through.
eddie bravo
It won't cut through.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, like, it has to have some drama to it, right?
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
You can't just go, oh, here's Monica.
Yeah, she doesn't like doing this job, but here she is.
eddie bravo
No, you got to.
brendan schaub
You got to have that.
Check her out.
eddie bravo
Here's Lindsay.
joe rogan
She's got some unfortunate tattoos.
unidentified
Goofy.
joe rogan
She's a really sweet girl.
Hopefully she'll find a good guy and leave this job.
brendan schaub
Kelly's made some terrible decisions.
Check her out.
Table three.
joe rogan
That back tattoo is unfortunate, but...
unidentified
No, you got to go all out.
eddie bravo
Listen, help her out.
She's had a rough childhood.
She's been in 25 foster homes.
Just hook her up.
Just hook her up.
joe rogan
Jason Knight.
Tough motherfucker.
brendan schaub
They're calling the country Diaz.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking nose, man.
That nose is taking some punches, son.
brendan schaub
Remember his nickname, The Country Diaz, because he's very similar to Diaz Brothers?
Minus the domestic abuse charges.
joe rogan
Well, very fucking...
That domestic abuse thing is a bummer, man.
brendan schaub
We don't know the facts, though, do we, Jimmy?
joe rogan
Well, one of Nick's guys sent me something.
His friend?
Yeah, dating some crazy girl.
Doesn't count!
brendan schaub
Doesn't count!
When your friend goes on, he goes, she's actually a stalker and really good...
He's a really good person.
I'm like, well, fuck, thanks, bro.
joe rogan
Jason Knight, nasty off his back.
brendan schaub
Yeah, great card.
Nasty card.
joe rogan
Quick.
brendan schaub
He's an Alan Belcher student.
Alan Belcher's jiu-jitsu is pretty awesome for MMA. This kid's been talking so much shit.
joe rogan
Maquan, Americani, Mr. Finland.
He's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Remember Alan Belcher versus Rusamar Poharis?
When he beat the shit out of him.
That was one of the greatest fights of all fucking time.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, everybody was scared of that.
brendan schaub
Dude, I saw him a week late.
joe rogan
I was right in there.
eddie bravo
Dude, he had Rusamar in a twister, man.
brendan schaub
He went into it.
I saw him a week later, and I was so impressed by it, I scared him.
You thought he was Mike Tyson.
I was like, bro!
He's like, Jesus Christ.
What you did was insane, man.
eddie bravo
It was insane.
brendan schaub
Especially at the time.
eddie bravo
He had Roussimar in a twister.
brendan schaub
He had him in the truck.
Almost finished him.
Roussimar gets out, has Alan Belcher in all sorts of leg lock trouble, and Alan Belcher just dismantled all that shit and beat the fuck out of him.
joe rogan
He brought in Dean Lister, and who else?
Was it Tom DeBlas?
unidentified
Who else?
brendan schaub
No, he brought in, for that fight for a month, he brought in Dean Lister and Davi Ramos, who's in the UFC. Davi Ramos.
eddie bravo
Davi Ramos is really good at leg locks, too.
Davi Ramos is a beast.
He had Dean Lister and Davi Ramos on his legs for a month.
He said the first two weeks he tapped out probably 500 times, but then he started to learn how to stop the leg locks.
brendan schaub
It took him a month.
Then he went into it, beat the shit out of it.
eddie bravo
Then he made a DVD called Immunity, How to Stop Leg Locks.
That's right.
brendan schaub
Remember that immunity?
eddie bravo
Alan Belcher?
joe rogan
Look, he's over there talking.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm telling you, Homeboy's talking so much shit.
When they did the post, you know Wayne's when they always interview him?
He was like, I'm going to beat the shit out of him.
He was going hard in the pain.
joe rogan
Jason Knight did?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, Jason Knight is one of the few fighters in the UFC where they can't show his flag.
Because his flag's got the fucking rebel flag on it.
Mississippi still has the Confederate flag in their state.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're proud of that shit.
eddie bravo
Jamie, can you get the fight on that screen as well, please?
joe rogan
That is crazy.
That is fucking crazy.
brendan schaub
It says Fight of the Night written all over it.
joe rogan
This big-ass screen right here.
Bashab, why y'all turn around?
brendan schaub
My neck's all stiff.
What are we doing here?
unidentified
You okay?
joe rogan
Look at that one right there.
eddie bravo
Right there, look.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck yeah.
joe rogan
We've got three screens in here.
This is like a goddamn sports bar.
brendan schaub
It's like we're at Buffalo Wild Wings minus the wings.
joe rogan
This is a very, very interesting fight.
And they hate each other.
So, Amir Khan has been talking crazy shit, huh?
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
He's going so hard in the paint.
He goes, this is a long trip for you to come just for one round to get knocked out.
She's going super hard.
I think he's just trying to get him emotional.
eddie bravo
Is he from England?
Yeah, does he live in England?
joe rogan
No, he lives in Finland.
At least he did for a while.
I don't know.
They used to call him Mr. Finland.
brendan schaub
I think, yeah, Knight's the underdog here.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, it kind of has to be after those two losses in a row.
But Americani was a guy who burst on the scene a few years back.
And, you know, was really promising, but we haven't...
People don't talk about him much.
brendan schaub
No.
eddie bravo
You know?
brendan schaub
Oh, shit!
eddie bravo
Oh, jump on him!
Oh, look at that!
See, guard!
brendan schaub
Americana, this isn't what he wants.
You don't want to get in these scrambles and this straight-up cockfight with Knight, man.
eddie bravo
That's what he wants.
He pulled guard, quit!
joe rogan
He's talking shit to him.
He's talking shit to him.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Oh, please don't do that.
joe rogan
He's controlling his biceps and talking shit to him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, don't do that, though.
eddie bravo
Oh, good posture.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did a good job at avoiding any kind of guard attacks.
joe rogan
Yeah, the way he did that by planting down those biceps are very smooth.
brendan schaub
Bicep control, and then he postured up at the perfect time, broke through those legs.
He's been doing his homework.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's telling them that too.
You ain't getting shit off on me.
brendan schaub
That snake tattoo hanging over his shoulder is interesting.
joe rogan
It's like Mandy to the main stage.
brendan schaub
Yes, it's very similar.
Thanks so much.
unidentified
Just talking, shit.
joe rogan
He got hurt.
He got hurt.
brendan schaub
He's trying to get emotional.
Those jabs are touching him.
joe rogan
He was having a problem with that eye.
brendan schaub
Dude, he has a lot of scar tissue on his face.
If you look at his face, it looks like a Great White's nose.
It's just all sort of shit all over his face.
joe rogan
Well, that style.
I mean, that crazy bulldog style.
brendan schaub
Doesn't really work these days, man.
Once you get to upper echelon level.
joe rogan
It works until you can't take a shot anymore.
It works and it doesn't.
Because your face just gets smashed in too much.
It works.
brendan schaub
Then we get the technicians like, all right, cool man.
Like Justin Gaethje.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
All right, that's what you want to do?
joe rogan
Cool.
Yeah, guys just are smart.
Maquan just keeps looking for that right hook counter, and he's doing it real nice.
I like what he's doing.
brendan schaub
I like his jab, too.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, guillotine.
joe rogan
Oh.
Americani's a good wrestler, too.
brendan schaub
Is he?
Yeah, very good.
That's his background.
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Okay.
brendan schaub
He just keeps more of that.
unidentified
Damn, look at him.
brendan schaub
He's talking shit.
He's comfortable in there.
Did that leg kick hurt him?
unidentified
You think?
brendan schaub
That inside one?
It always hurts.
joe rogan
That thing sucks.
Especially when you get kicked right above the knee.
It's a fucking terrible feeling.
It just feels like you're hoping your ligaments stay together, and they do.
They almost always do, but every time you get hit, they're like, shit!
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Damn, wheel kicks.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about Amanda Nunes kicks against Raquel Pennington?
Pennington said that first kick, she had surgery on that leg.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit, dude!
brendan schaub
He stomped right on that knee and folded him a little bit.
eddie bravo
You see that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He's throwing a nice variety of kicks.
I like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he's got to do that.
brendan schaub
Guys that are fighting today, there's a whole bunch of them.
They don't throw really any kicks still.
eddie bravo
They're still out there and they don't throw anything.
brendan schaub
Isn't that crazy?
At the lighter levels, they kind of mix it all up.
eddie bravo
You shouldn't mix it up at all levels.
unidentified
The heavyweights don't though.
brendan schaub
The light heavyweights, heavyweights don't.
eddie bravo
Because you know what?
brendan schaub
I love Damien Maia fucking more than any other fighter out there.
I think by now he should...
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
Oh, damn.
Damn.
He should have stayed on top.
unidentified
Why did he do that?
eddie bravo
He should have stayed on top.
unidentified
The fuck?
joe rogan
He's still hurt, though.
He's still hurt.
Amir Khan, he's still hurt.
He got fucked up by that shot.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
He cracked him.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
He did it again!
eddie bravo
Oh shit!
brendan schaub
Dude, what the fuck is he doing?
joe rogan
He likes fighting off his back.
He likes it.
brendan schaub
He's recovering.
joe rogan
Yeah, but look, he's in mission control here.
This ain't bad.
This ain't bad at all.
eddie bravo
He can go dead orchard right there.
All he's got to do is triangle his legs.
Just triangle his legs.
That's all he's got to do.
brendan schaub
Oh shit.
eddie bravo
If he triangled his legs, he'd get him in a dead orchard.
joe rogan
Does he know it?
brendan schaub
He's singling out that arm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he knows it.
eddie bravo
But what he's trying to do is clear the neck.
That's the main thing he's trying to do.
He's trying to get to Invisible Collar at this point.
brendan schaub
Or some kind of meat hook or something.
That's stupid.
eddie bravo
There it is.
unidentified
He's got him!
eddie bravo
Oh, he got out!
Shit!
Look at that, Darth!
brendan schaub
Guilty, go for it.
Ten seconds.
Couple shots!
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Look at him, look at him.
brendan schaub
That was fucking awesome.
joe rogan
You ain't talking shit anymore.
unidentified
God damn!
brendan schaub
How about he start talking shit?
How about he start talking shit again?
eddie bravo
No, I think he said he did good.
brendan schaub
What's wrong with this kid?
Oh, you went to the wrong corner.
Damn.
They both did.
joey diaz
They both fucked up.
joe rogan
That was awesome.
brendan schaub
Everybody getting braced.
joe rogan
Jason Knight caught him with some good shots, dude.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Heard him bad.
brendan schaub
Fuck.
joe rogan
Heard him bad.
brendan schaub
Come on, Chase.
With 40 seconds left to fucking go down to guard, like, I don't care if you like it or not, it's a bad idea, man.
joe rogan
You almost had him in a triangle.
Listen, man, if that fight was two minutes longer, he could have caught him in something.
unidentified
It's not, though.
joe rogan
They were scrambling.
He got to the top.
unidentified
30 seconds?
joe rogan
He was on top of him.
brendan schaub
You know how hard it is to get a finish guy in 30 seconds?
eddie bravo
It all depends on the situation.
joey diaz
You like it?
joe rogan
I like it.
I like it all.
brendan schaub
If pulling guard is so suicidal, like people say...
I'm not saying it is.
I'm a fan of it.
Why is it so hard for Damien Maia to pull guard?
eddie bravo
He'll sit on his butt and people don't want to get on top of him.
They make him stand up.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that!
Look at that!
brendan schaub
Because that's literally the only way he can win.
joey diaz
Look at this!
eddie bravo
Boom!
brendan schaub
Damien Maia can't win any other way.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Exactly.
Round two.
Amir Khani got fucked up in that first round.
brendan schaub
Ooh, look at Knight.
Dude, he's still confident, but he's a little bit like, ah, fuck.
joe rogan
And Amir Khani's still taking big, deep breaths.
Dude, he got hurt bad.
That one uppercut really fucked him up.
brendan schaub
Anyone else just rootin' hard as fuck for Knight?
joe rogan
Yeah, right now.
Right?
brendan schaub
I don't like the smirk on McHoney's face.
joe rogan
He's a tough guy.
I like watching him fight, but I also like a guy coming back from two fights down.
brendan schaub
Dude, you lose three in a row, it'd be tough.
His career would be in trouble, man.
unidentified
You can go to 1FC. How dare you.
joe rogan
Dude, 1FC's putting on some good fucking shows.
brendan schaub
Come on, boys.
eddie bravo
They are.
1FC's awesome.
unidentified
I like it, too, but compared to the UFC. And then there's Bellator, too.
eddie bravo
He's not done.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the problem with 1FC is just about exposure.
They've got some great TIE fighters over there.
eddie bravo
In Asia, 1FC is huge.
unidentified
Huge.
brendan schaub
Huge.
joe rogan
Dude, it's giant.
It reaches like a billion households.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Ben Eskin's a huge star.
joe rogan
No, that didn't work out.
eddie bravo
In Asia he is.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
brendan schaub
Yes, he's in Asia too now, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is, but 1FC, I'm telling you, Brendan, it is very big overseas.
brendan schaub
I know it's big.
I know it's big.
If you're not in the UFC, it's a tough go, man.
joe rogan
It is.
It's a tough go, but I think 1FC is catching up in Asia.
I mean, they're bigger than Bellator is over there.
brendan schaub
Bellator doesn't really do Asia.
joe rogan
Exactly.
But that's our number two, right?
Our number two in America is Bellator.
eddie bravo
Bellator's getting bigger, right?
joe rogan
It's bigger.
I mean, they're in Europe.
They obviously just had that card in London.
brendan schaub
Well, with their heavyweight tournament they're doing, they're killing it right now.
Really?
In the ratings?
Yeah, you got Chael Fedor coming up.
You got Ryan Bader, Mitrione.
joe rogan
Well, they need a heavyweight champion.
brendan schaub
You got Michael Venom Page.
joe rogan
It's crazy that they don't have a heavyweight champion.
brendan schaub
You can have one now, end of the year.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
There ain't that many big guys, man.
If it's Ryan Bader, it could be issues, right?
Because he's a light heavyweight.
And he's the light heavyweight champ.
joe rogan
But maybe he fights better at heavyweight than he does at light heavyweight.
brendan schaub
True.
Did you see Phil Davis' head kick KO? That was crazy.
Phil Davis looks good.
joe rogan
That was nasty.
Amir Khan wins it.
brendan schaub
Night talking shit now.
He has some confidence.
unidentified
Man.
brendan schaub
Americani got that nice jab and hook combo.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that right hand.
brendan schaub
He just looked for that hook.
joe rogan
Oh, he clipped him.
brendan schaub
Damn, he's got a good right hook.
joe rogan
Oh, nice uppercut, too.
He mixed it up.
brendan schaub
We're missing Callan right now going, God, these guys are sweating.
joe rogan
Why doesn't he just hit him with the right hand?
Callan would be like, why doesn't he just throw?
brendan schaub
No, Callan would go, you've got to keep your hands up.
joe rogan
Why doesn't he throw the front kick?
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
We tagged him again.
brendan schaub
Oop, he's hurt.
Guillotine.
Guillotine coming in hot.
Nope, pass.
joey diaz
Nope.
joe rogan
Again.
unidentified
He can't get his leg up.
joe rogan
Triangle on the body.
brendan schaub
He's doing a good job at defending.
You wouldn't give that first round 10-8, would you?
No.
Maybe.
He knocked him down.
joe rogan
Maybe with the new rules.
brendan schaub
What's the new rule?
joe rogan
The new scoring system.
brendan schaub
What is it?
joe rogan
The new scoring system is when you show a clear advantage.
You'd have to have someone look at it, but a clear advantage...
Is the difference between winning and winning clearly.
He clearly won that first round.
I would have to look at it, like how they frame it now.
I think we have a real problem being imprisoned by that 10-point system.
I think the 10-point system is stupid.
brendan schaub
Preach.
eddie bravo
What do you think about recently?
brendan schaub
There have been a bunch of early stand-ups from the ground.
joe rogan
Well, the Leon Roberts one with Damian Maia and Usman was ridiculous.
brendan schaub
What are you talking about with The Wizard?
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
eddie bravo
Dude, he had his back.
joe rogan
That was super ridiculous.
brendan schaub
That's someone not knowing what's going on.
joe rogan
Not only that, I mean, you're dealing with a fighter that is taking a fight on last-minute notice against a super-dominant wrestler, and he essentially is in a great position and could maybe get his back.
brendan schaub
And that's his biggest advantage?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You fucked him.
joe rogan
Americani takes him down now.
brendan schaub
Here.
joe rogan
Yeah, he fucked.
brendan schaub
There was another fight recently when they were on the ground and the guy was like side controller of the mount and the ref stood him up.
joe rogan
Like, what the fuck is that about?
brendan schaub
On that same chili card, there's also in the girls fight where the female referee let them just stay on their butt with no engagement.
I'm like, stand them up, man.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
No, obviously she doesn't want to be down there.
She does.
No one's interacting.
Let's go.
joe rogan
Jason Knight, he's got a fucking wicked mission control.
He pulls to that mission control.
eddie bravo
He's got mead hook right now.
brendan schaub
He could hit a triangle right here.
Mead hook.
Look at that.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
I mean, Connie ain't doing shit on the ground either.
He's not getting...
I mean, he might be doing okay defensively, but he's not getting shit off offensively.
brendan schaub
No, he's threatened nonstop down there.
Which, to me, should be a win for Jason Knight.
Jason Knight going for a leg lock here.
Have you thought about it?
Americani, outstanding.
He's losing.
And so he goes to the ground.
eddie bravo
Look at that.
Leg lock right here.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
It's like a round apiece.
joe rogan
Maybe?
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
Just take down a lone one?
brendan schaub
The judges for sure give him that to Americani.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
It's 1-1.
brendan schaub
Yeah, 1-1.
joe rogan
But he didn't do anything with him on the ground.
Like, zero nothing.
eddie bravo
He still took him down, though.
He still took him down.
brendan schaub
It sucks, though, because Jason Knight was doing work and threatening him the entire time on the ground.
Get the gift to Americani.
He's on the defensive.
The flaws in our judging is insane.
It's fucking insane.
joe rogan
I feel like it should be like a 100-point system.
eddie bravo
I feel like there should never be any stand-ups.
Five-minute rounds, there should never be any stand-ups.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm with you.
eddie bravo
Why are you standing them up?
brendan schaub
Never?
joe rogan
Never.
eddie bravo
Five minutes?
joe rogan
I agree.
eddie bravo
By the time they get to the ground, there's not any get-downs.
If it's boring on the feet, they're not...
brendan schaub
They're not doing what they do in wrestling.
Tough shit.
eddie bravo
That's just the fight.
That's just the way it goes.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
You're going to get a chance in four minutes to get back up to the feet when the round's over.
eddie bravo
Because what happens, Brendan, this is what happens.
If they stand them up because they're holding, then guys, why would they learn jiu-jitsu?
If they get taken down, if a striker gets taken down, all you got to do is get good at holding and the ref's going to stand them up.
That's what it leads to and it fucks the sport up.
joe rogan
Round three.
eddie bravo
You can't have that.
That gives a striker a reason to not learn jiu-jitsu and just hold and look to the referee to stand him up.
That fucks up the sport.
brendan schaub
Or you just learn wrestling and keep winning by just holding him down.
One takedown, the fight's over.
eddie bravo
Then you've got to learn how to fight off your back.
You've got to learn how to fight.
joe rogan
I agree with this.
eddie bravo
You've got to push the sport.
brendan schaub
You can't go backwards.
joe rogan
Look at Amerikani looking for a takedown again.
eddie bravo
Standing up the fight, that takes everything backwards.
It makes it so you don't have to learn jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
If the guys are trying to win the fight, though, it's an issue, man.
You could say the same thing about them standing.
That happens all the time standing.
No one says shit about that.
We can't put them to the ground.
Why not?
We do it in combat jiu-jitsu.
We have get-downs, baby.
unidentified
Get-downs?
eddie bravo
We have get-downs.
unidentified
Get-downs.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that.
eddie bravo
In two minutes, if there's no take-down in two minutes, we get them down.
joe rogan
Remember when this was illegal?
These kidney strikes were illegal?
They're not illegal anymore.
brendan schaub
They should do more of those when a guy has someone's back.
Remember how Hickson used to do that to the stomach?
eddie bravo
Why don't they do that?
That opens up the neck.
People forget about it.
brendan schaub
They don't even think about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
brendan schaub
It opens up the neck.
eddie bravo
Dude, those are some serious kicks to the stomach.
No one does it.
brendan schaub
Especially when you're breathing hard.
eddie bravo
Nobody does it.
They never do it.
joe rogan
Okay, he's trying to create some space.
Amir Khan, he's a strong wrestler, man.
eddie bravo
He's got to hit a flying kung fu here.
This guy's too greasy.
brendan schaub
His face is good.
eddie bravo
Oh, triangle.
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
He had it for a second.
joe rogan
He's trying.
He's trying to throw some shit up.
brendan schaub
There it is.
joe rogan
John Cavanaugh keeps throwing some shit up.
brendan schaub
Cavanaugh's in whose corner?
Americanis?
joe rogan
Must be, huh?
brendan schaub
Yeah, 100%.
But of course.
joe rogan
How's your boy Dan Hart?
Do you still talk to him, Eddie?
Are you in touch with him at all?
eddie bravo
I haven't talked to him in a while, but he seems to be doing great as the commentator.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's doing great.
brendan schaub
He's really good at it.
joe rogan
He's got a book out, too.
What does it say?
Like Half Reptile or something like that?
50% Reptile?
brendan schaub
I forget what his name is.
Mixed martial arts on conspiracy theories.
joe rogan
I think of his life.
eddie bravo
He's got to go for a triangle right here.
I think it's about him.
joe rogan
It's all conspiracy theories.
Part reptile.
brendan schaub
And it's about his life story or something?
jamie vernon
UFC, MMA, and me.
brendan schaub
Part reptile.
God, I feel like it's a bad name for a book.
joe rogan
I don't know, maybe he's got a rationalization for it.
brendan schaub
Damn.
Lizardman.
joe rogan
This is a terrible position for Jason Knight.
brendan schaub
He's losing.
joe rogan
But Amir Khani is not doing jack shit.
brendan schaub
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
But Jason Knight is threatening off of his back.
eddie bravo
It's close.
There we go.
brendan schaub
You guys call it the crackhead?
eddie bravo
That's actually New York crackhead right there.
joe rogan
Like, what is our mayor Connie gonna do here?
brendan schaub
He's trying to stack them and just pressure through and just survive here.
Look at him.
He's talking shit like he's not doing anything.
This is what you guys want it though.
joe rogan
Yeah, I want it.
Yeah, I like this.
eddie bravo
I don't want them to stand it up.
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
He stood him up right when we were talking about Mark Goddard.
How dare you?
eddie bravo
Oh, Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Jason Knight was complaining though.
Jason Knight was going, dude, he's not doing shit.
joe rogan
He wasn't doing shit.
eddie bravo
That is true.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
How dare you stand him up for action?
How dare you?
eddie bravo
There's action on the ground!
brendan schaub
Well, I like this action.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, he stunned him.
He stunned him.
brendan schaub
Omerikani, please quit taking him down.
joe rogan
Well, he wants some points.
brendan schaub
Well, he's getting them.
joe rogan
I mean, that's literally all he's been able to do in this fight other than that couple of jabs he landed in the first round.
brendan schaub
True.
Knight's been beating him.
Stand up.
eddie bravo
Oh, he's going for the leg lock.
joe rogan
That's a tough sell.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He's got to do something.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He might be losing this now.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude, for sure he's losing this fight.
joe rogan
But it's weird.
He's losing the fight, but what the fuck has Amir Khani done?
brendan schaub
Taking him down.
joe rogan
But that's it.
Is that enough?
eddie bravo
There it is.
Oh, shit.
Triangle right there.
Triangle, triangle.
joe rogan
Is just being on top enough?
When the guy on top isn't doing shit but defending, he got the takedown.
But it's not good enough.
brendan schaub
It is in our current sport.
joe rogan
But how much of this should be scored with Jason Knight controlling off of his back and going for submissions versus Amir Khani literally here doing nothing.
Zero.
brendan schaub
But he has top control, right?
joe rogan
But his control, though.
He's just on top.
He doesn't have any control.
Yeah, but he's not doing anything but holding him in the spot.
brendan schaub
But Jason Knight's not landing.
joe rogan
He's at least trying to be offensive off of his back.
Americani is literally doing nothing.
All he's doing is holding on here.
brendan schaub
That's what you guys wanted.
eddie bravo
That's part of the sport.
joe rogan
There he lands a shot.
That's good for him.
That's good for him.
But Jason Knight is being way more active.
Americani's throwing a few shots there.
unidentified
Passed.
joe rogan
Yeah, now he passed.
brendan schaub
I'm with you, man.
But the way they score.
joe rogan
Look out for Jason Knight's neck.
brendan schaub
Amir Khan has this fight easily.
Ooh, he could have a 10-finger choke, yeah.
unidentified
You remember that?
joe rogan
What is that fucking...
That step over...
Oh, shit.
Oh, he hurt him.
He hurt him.
Amir Khan hurt him.
brendan schaub
Is that a legal knee, though?
joe rogan
I think it was a punch that hurt him.
I think the knee was to the body, wasn't it?
brendan schaub
Was it?
There it is.
unidentified
Oh...
brendan schaub
No, Americani definitely won this fight.
I don't think he's going to win any fans in this fight.
joe rogan
Eddie, what's that technique?
Goddammit, I can't...
You've got one arm under the arm, one arm over the top, and you step over with the legs.
You know that move.
Fuck.
brendan schaub
Peruvian necktie.
I call it a ten-finger choke.
joe rogan
I forgot the peruvian...
Well, isn't a ten-finger choke the one when it's in the chest?
You got him in the chest, and you have the head planted in the chest.
brendan schaub
We would call it the 10-finger choke, say Peruvian necktie.
For whatever reason, we'd call it the 10-finger choke.
joe rogan
Well, Tony D'Souza is the reason why everybody calls it the Peruvian necktie, because he's from Padu.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and there's a Peruvian darts as well, too.
Oh, there it is.
He was out, out, huh?
Look at that.
I got pissed so hard.
unidentified
Boom.
eddie bravo
He knocked him down twice.
joe rogan
Yep, twice.
brendan schaub
So was it a 10-8 round, that first one?
joe rogan
It could be a draw.
eddie bravo
It could be a draw.
joe rogan
I can see that being a 10-8 round.
brendan schaub
It could be a draw.
eddie bravo
Is this guy from the UK? No, Finland.
Oh, he's not from the UK. So, hey, maybe...
brendan schaub
We traded with Kavanaugh.
Nah, I bet Jason Knight loses the fight decision.
joe rogan
Could be.
Could be.
Interesting Damn What do you think?
brendan schaub
They're probably going to give it to Murakami.
joe rogan
What's his name?
Amir Khani.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they'll probably give it to him.
eddie bravo
He got the takedowns.
brendan schaub
He didn't do anything on top, but those takedowns count.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Now, is that the co-main?
brendan schaub
Do you remember that guy?
I think the first guillotine master in MMA was that little pequeno guy.
Do you remember him?
He used to fight and shoot a little Brazilian guy.
eddie bravo
His name was Antonio Nogueira.
Pequeño?
How did I forget about him?
brendan schaub
Dude, he guillotined so many motherfuckers.
I think he was an Andre Penedaris guy from Nova Union.
eddie bravo
Remember him?
brendan schaub
He was a guy that if you shot in on him, he was going to guillotine you.
And he had his own special 10-finger guillotine.
eddie bravo
I don't know exactly how he did it.
brendan schaub
Everyone's got their own little modifications for guillotines because you really can't see the grip.
When you get a guillotine, the grip is actually hidden.
It's hard to tell what kind of guillotine you're putting in.
Even with the high elbow guillotines, the marcelotene, it's hard to tell if you're holding it like this or like this, because the grip is hidden.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Secret guillotines.
And the way that Pequeño Nogueira did it...
Man, I still don't.
I still...
I don't remember.
It's a weird little secret grip.
joe rogan
Did you ever get into the pretzel grip?
Were you big on that weird grip where the palm of the bottom hand is facing outward and the palm of the top hand is facing towards you?
brendan schaub
That's a great...
That's a great grip if you get your hands together.
That's a great grip.
But the reason why Marcello, instead of going here, he goes here.
That's the difference.
eddie bravo
When you go here, you need your palms to meet.
brendan schaub
So if there's a guy here, and I'm trying to guillotine him, the first thing he's going to do is bring up his hands like this.
He's going to defend a guillotine like this.
His first move is going to be to come between your hands, right?
So if you could beat his hand, then you're good.
Then this is amazing.
eddie bravo
But if you don't beat his hand, then the guillotine is lost.
brendan schaub
But if he comes up and blocks it like this, and I come around the back of my hand, he's still fucked.
So it's a false sense of security.
joe rogan
Split decision.
I'm Erkani.
Interesting.
Interesting.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Does that make sense on the grip?
joe rogan
Yes, it does.
Also, too, like the same as like with a rear naked.
It's like if you can keep that hand flat, it's easier to slide it up in there than if you got it like this where it's harder to get it underneath the chin.
eddie bravo
I'm not too sure about that.
brendan schaub
With the guillotine, it's just a lot of people do it with the pretzel grip here.
But you gotta get your hands together.
eddie bravo
With the Marcelo Garcia variation, it doesn't matter.
brendan schaub
Their hands are gonna come up, they think they're safe, but we're going behind our own hand.
So that's when Marcelo was fucking people up with that on the daily.
Black belts were going, what the What the fuck is going on?
eddie bravo
I'm defending the guillotine and I'm still tapping.
joe rogan
Right.
eddie bravo
It was the grip.
brendan schaub
What'd they give it?
joe rogan
Split decision.
Amir Khani.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's tough for...
joe rogan
Yeah.
What are you gonna do?
brendan schaub
You say Cap Swanson?
joe rogan
Is that what he said?
That's not a good move for him.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Cub Swanson's on another level.
eddie bravo
Who's he calling out?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
He's calling Jimmy Manoa right now.
joe rogan
Saying something to Jimmy Manoa I never see crazy guys like this I What's the next fight?
brendan schaub
He's talking about an old story with Jimmy Manilow to the rest of the crowd.
unidentified
Remember that time we saw each other in the bar with a gold necklace on?
joe rogan
Amazing.
jamie vernon
Arnold Allen vs.
Mads Burnell.
joe rogan
Show up the card.
Pull up the card.
He's probably delirious from that uppercut.
Aljamain!
brendan schaub
He's trying to get a fight with Dominic Cruz.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, Al Jermaine.
I like how he bounced back from that Marlon Marais fight, too.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
He bounced back.
brendan schaub
Dude, Marlon Marais vs.
Jimmy Rivera coming up.
I think that's next week.
That's a motherfucking fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is next week, right?
Is that next week?
brendan schaub
Think so?
joe rogan
It's a fight night.
Dude, we need to have a fight companion for that motherfucker.
What day is that?
brendan schaub
Jimmy Rivera is a motherfucker.
He's a beast.
joe rogan
What day is that?
Is that Saturday?
brendan schaub
June 1st.
joe rogan
Friday night?
June 1st?
I'm in town.
You in town?
brendan schaub
I'm in town.
joe rogan
Let's do this.
brendan schaub
I'm trying to get weird.
joe rogan
Son?
brendan schaub
By weird, I mean sit and talk fights.
joe rogan
Oh.
Yeah.
Fuck yeah, man.
Let's do that.
Is Callan in town?
Callan's hustling right now, getting ready to do his special, right?
brendan schaub
Shooting his special in July.
unidentified
Woo!
brendan schaub
I'm opening for him.
joe rogan
In Chicago.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
He's ready.
brendan schaub
He's ready.
joe rogan
He said he's amped up.
brendan schaub
Best he's ever been.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
brendan schaub
Your boy, yeah, hopefully he gets picked up by Netflix or Showtime.
Your boy Joey Diaz last night.
joe rogan
On fire.
brendan schaub
Just flamethrower.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
He's on fire right now, man.
brendan schaub
He's on fire.
I just put, Jesus Christ, Joseph.
joe rogan
Still fucking around, too.
Still trying new shit on stage.
brendan schaub
Well, he was telling me that.
Because Netflix, some of the references he has, they're like, you can't say this.
You need to change to this.
So he's messing with that.
How to hit the joke.
Still using that context.
joe rogan
What references are they...
brendan schaub
I don't want to give away stuff.
joe rogan
Okay, yeah.
Eddie, are you around next Friday?
The 1st?
June 1st?
brendan schaub
What you doing next Friday night, son?
Next Friday I'm in San Francisco with Sam Tripoli.
You should cancel it.
What's happening?
unidentified
You should cancel it.
joe rogan
Fight campaign.
brendan schaub
You're looking at it.
Friday?
joe rogan
Jimmy Rivera versus Marlon Marais.
Son.
unidentified
That's going to be a good fight.
joe rogan
That is a good fight.
brendan schaub
Jake Ellenberger, Ben Saunders.
A couple of the old two's going at it.
I mean, if I didn't have that spot in San Francisco, I'd be cornering Ben.
joe rogan
You're doing a lot of stand-up, man.
unidentified
That's crazy.
Not a lot.
brendan schaub
Not a lot.
joe rogan
Enough.
Like, I see your name up there.
brendan schaub
Not like a real comedian.
Real comedians go out all the time.
I'm like below an open-miker, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Are you enjoying it?
eddie bravo
I love it.
I love it.
brendan schaub
The show we did Friday night in the Bellroom, that was the most fun I've ever had, man.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
That was so much fun.
joe rogan
It's so crazy seeing you do stand-up.
eddie bravo
It was so much fun.
joe rogan
Is it all just conspiracy theory stand-up?
Because I know you guys are calling it tinfoil hat conspiracy.
Is that just because of the podcast name?
eddie bravo
It's more designed to...
brendan schaub
There's a lot of conspiracy theory comedy in there, but it's not like 100%.
You take fan questions too, right?
So you can go hard in the paint?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
At the end, we do a question and answer type of like a mini podcast thing.
Yeah, it's fun.
Friday night at the belly room was so much fun, man.
unidentified
It was awesome.
joe rogan
That belly room is such an amazing room.
That's the truth serum room.
Because if your jokes are like fat, if they have too much extra words in them, if they're too fake, if they come off corny, that room just highlights it.
brendan schaub
You can feel it.
joe rogan
I always like to run my material in that room before I do anything big.
brendan schaub
Joey did his show at the...
I've never been in that room in the Ice House.
Not the big room.
It's almost like the belly room.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's where he did it?
Yeah.
That room's amazing.
eddie bravo
I've done that a couple times with Joey, too.
brendan schaub
That's a great one.
eddie bravo
That's a great room.
brendan schaub
When I opened for Joey, I love it because it's probably 90% Latin.
eddie bravo
And I love telling Mexican jokes.
I got so many Mexican stories.
It's just all fun.
brendan schaub
There's no conspiracy theories going on with those crowds.
joe rogan
His crowds are like 90% Latin?
Really?
Joey's?
brendan schaub
Not last night, was it?
eddie bravo
No?
brendan schaub
It seemed like it was when, like in Ontario.
joe rogan
Oh, well, Ontario's 90% Latin.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
That was a lot of fun.
joe rogan
Ontario's a great room.
brendan schaub
Ontario, Levity, Moxnard, a lot of Latin.
eddie bravo
I did Bert Kreischer's podcast last week, and he said that...
brendan schaub
Because of you, he said that he was telling you that Russian mafia story and then you said you should do it on stage and then he did it and it blew up, that Russian mob story.
And then I remembered, I go, you know what, Joe told me to do that bleeding asshole story on stage.
I had a problem with blood coming out of my ass.
eddie bravo
So I told him how I fixed it.
brendan schaub
And he goes, dude, you gotta do that on stage.
eddie bravo
And I'm like, no way!
brendan schaub
My first reaction was like, fuck, no, I'm not gonna talk about that on stage.
But I did it Friday, and it went over well.
joe rogan
Dude, it's a funny story, man.
When you told it, I was howling and laughing.
It's funny how, like, you say that, like, oh, you should do that bleeding asshole story, and people are listening, like, what the fuck is wrong with these guys?
brendan schaub
Come on, man.
joe rogan
It's not just a matter of, like, how you were telling me the story, and when you were telling me the story, I was cracking up.
I mean, I am not a comedy snob by any stretch of the imagination.
I like comedy.
I like things that are funny.
And if it happens to be funny for X, Y, or Z reason, I don't care.
I just want...
I like to laugh.
I like funny shit.
I don't believe that there's certain subjects that should be off limits.
It's just a matter of how you approach the subject.
If it's a part of life...
The problem is a lot of subjects are tainted because a lot of people do bad comedy that's like cheap and easy and they use those subjects instead of because the subjects are interesting and they have like a real valid point they use those subjects because they know it's gonna get a cheap laugh like a cheap fart joke or a cheap you know whatever kind of joke there's there's a bunch of cheap jokes but then there's like A real-life situation where you have to shit your pants.
Ari Shafir had a fucking hilarious joke about there was a bridge across in Sydney.
This is a crazy bridge.
It's like two miles long or something.
You walk across it and he was halfway across the bridge and he had to shit his pants.
And he told this story and he had an agent at the time told him, That's a shit joke.
You gotta stop doing that joke.
And Ari looked at him and he goes, yeah, we're not gonna work together anymore.
He just got rid of him.
Just got rid of his agent.
He's like, get the fuck out of here.
Because he told me about it and I go, what?
I go, that guy told you to stop doing that bit?
Because it was a real story.
I was with him.
We were together in Sydney.
brendan schaub
That's what makes it funnier.
joe rogan
But it was a real story where he had to shit his pants, and he was a mile into it, and it was killing.
Killing.
And his stupid-ass agent was like, you know, that's a shit joke.
Shouldn't do a shit joke.
Because he doesn't get it.
Because he hears when people are talking about just, like, cheap...
brendan schaub
Why would you listen to an Asian on your material?
joe rogan
Agent, not an Asian.
brendan schaub
No, no, agent.
joe rogan
You said Asian?
brendan schaub
Did I? Yes.
It's early.
unidentified
Ha!
brendan schaub
Why would he listen to an agent or an agent?
joe rogan
He didn't, but when, look, there's two stages of your career, right?
There's a stage where other people try to tell you what to do.
They're like, what you need to do is wear a tie.
What you need to do is change your act.
What you need to do is go clean.
I went through all that shit, too.
And then there's a stage where they just leave you the fuck alone.
Ari is now in that leave you the fuck alone stage.
brendan schaub
That's because he's successful.
joe rogan
Because he's successful.
brendan schaub
When you're successful, you can say what you want to do.
joe rogan
But a few years back, he was in that you might make it, you might fall apart stage in an agent's eyes.
Like agents look at you and they go, man, I don't know, Eddie, you might be able to make it, but you're going to have to change some things.
Change the way you dress, change your hair.
brendan schaub
Drop the bleeding asshole story.
joe rogan
The bleeding asshole thing is alienating fans.
And they get it in their head that they know how to fix your act.
They're almost always wrong.
They're almost always wrong.
brendan schaub
Ari's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
We have the same agent.
He doesn't tell either one of us shit.
joe rogan
Ari doesn't give a fuck now.
Ari is like my favorite example.
unidentified
I don't even think he has a phone.
joe rogan
He's got a flip phone.
But he's my favorite example of a dude who got money, got some fame and some wealth and got some success and just said, fuck you.
I'm doing whatever I want.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Bert was saying touring-wise, he was taking some time off.
He's going somewhere now.
Does he want toys?
He just needs a certain minimum and that's all he cares about.
He hits that and he's out.
joe rogan
He made his monthly nut, or his yearly nut, he said, in the first couple weeks of the year.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He just did a bunch of theaters and some good dates.
brendan schaub
Burt Kreischer?
joe rogan
No, Ari.
brendan schaub
Ari.
joe rogan
Shit.
brendan schaub
Burt's a beast, too, though.
joe rogan
Well, Ari's got a fucking low overhead, man.
He doesn't have a car.
He lives cheap.
I mean, he's just...
brendan schaub
He keeps that way.
He's still in New York?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's hilarious.
joe rogan
He doesn't give a fuck, man.
I mean, and he loves traveling.
He loves traveling.
brendan schaub
He's material from it, right?
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that, man.
He just really enjoys going to different cultures.
I mean, he went to fucking Asia, dude.
brendan schaub
Like, Asia, Asia.
joe rogan
Hostels and shit.
Staying in places where, like, 18-year-old backpackers go.
brendan schaub
I was like, you're in danger?
It's not ever.
unidentified
I'm like, what?
brendan schaub
I'm too scared to do that.
I wouldn't want to do that.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think it's dangerous.
I mean, I think it's rarely dangerous, but I think any kind of travel...
I mean, I'm talking about traveling to a bar in, you know, Canoga Park could be dangerous.
You know, you hear about it in a story, Brendan shop, Joe Rogan go to a bar in Canoga, Joe gets stabbed by some crazy person.
Oh, don't go to Canoga Park.
That's not what it is.
It's just like life is occasionally dangerous.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think those hostels are...
Most of those hostels are just college kids that are just traveling abroad and looking to see the world.
brendan schaub
I've always been scared of hostels when my brother stayed in Europe and said he woke up someone sucking on his toes.
joe rogan
That's scary.
brendan schaub
I thought it was in your dick.
joe rogan
I was scared of it because of those horror movies.
brendan schaub
The Hostel?
The Hostel horror movies.
That movie's fucking terrifying.
unidentified
Terrifying.
brendan schaub
Part two's even worse.
Turista?
Dude, Hostel is so gory.
Hostel is brutal, man.
unidentified
Dude.
brendan schaub
How easy is it to lure those 18-year-old backpackers that are going across Europe?
So easy.
unidentified
I don't think it's that easy.
brendan schaub
Dude, all you gotta do is get hot chicks, point out the dudes, the hot chicks would drag them into some shit, put some drugs into their drinks, and boom.
A lot of work on fucking two 50-year-olds and a 35-year-old, a hot chick.
Where are we going?
Backpackers.
joe rogan
Yeah, forget about when you're 20. When you're 20, you fuck a warm hole in the wall.
brendan schaub
No, but I'm saying it's easy.
That's how they got them in the hostel.
They just send chicks after them.
That's easy.
Chicks work out every day.
They'll fall right into it, man.
Chicks with drugs and a drink, and it's over.
joe rogan
But I think for a lot of those people that travel like that and live like that, it's got to be very hard to settle down.
Once you get used to just traveling and doing drugs and partying places and...
brendan schaub
I feel like that movie doesn't end well for those people.
There's no, like, real stability.
joe rogan
Oh, I mean the life movie.
brendan schaub
No, I mean the life movie.
Everyone has their own movie plan right now.
joe rogan
No, it definitely doesn't end well.
I mean, maybe start a pottery business or some shit.
brendan schaub
Fucking pottery?
jamie vernon
Did you ever watch this movie?
brendan schaub
Look at this.
joe rogan
What is this one?
jamie vernon
This is another movie that Eli Roth made.
He also made Hostile.
It's called Green Inferno.
brendan schaub
I did see this where they eat each other.
joe rogan
Did they get eaten by cannibals?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they go down, like, to Brazil or somewhere.
Some...
brendan schaub
It's always Brazil.
No, this was Brazil.
It was like some remote location in the jungle.
I was actually a little disappointed in this.
The trailer, I was like, oh shit, this makes me sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's that picture of the head in the upper left-hand corner?
jamie vernon
There's some crazy shit that happens in the movie.
joe rogan
Dude, send me that.
Send me that, a text message.
eddie bravo
Man, don't you think, like, Brazil would be pissed?
brendan schaub
Like, dude, tourism is down 8,000% because of these fucking movies.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Shit happens there.
Shit does happen there.
eddie bravo
But you know what?
Still, maybe Brazil's like, slow the fuck down with these goddamn movies.
joe rogan
They do have the biggest rainforest in the world.
I mean, they do.
unidentified
The fucking Amazon's there.
joe rogan
Amazon's crazy.
brendan schaub
I couldn't believe...
I texted Tim Kenney last night.
I couldn't believe when he was talking about all those Nazis.
joe rogan
Dude!
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
joe rogan
How crazy is that in Argentina?
unidentified
What in the fuck?
joe rogan
They flew from Germany to fucking Argentina.
That's a true story.
brendan schaub
I texted him too.
I went, dude, you did the greatest promo...
eddie bravo
How many German cities are there?
brendan schaub
You did the greatest promo ever for your Discovering History Channel show.
Because I really was...
I love Tim, but I don't watch that much TV with that stuff.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm in.
Those Germans that live in Argentina.
brendan schaub
How many cities?
How many villages?
joe rogan
I don't know, but hundreds of thousands of people.
brendan schaub
And you go to the village, this is in Argentina, and it's all German.
The architecture, we go into their house, it's all fucking German.
joe rogan
Pull up some images of it, Jamie.
brendan schaub
They don't speak a fucking lick of Spanish.
joe rogan
They wear lederhosen, they're drinking giant steins of beer.
brendan schaub
And they're so proud of their Nazi history.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what's creepy.
brendan schaub
How about he goes, you know what built that land?
Jews fucking, their cavity fillings, their wedding rings.
That's what built that land.
So what do you do?
I got so upset, man.
And then when he's talking about how they would torture kids, I stopped listening after that.
I'm out.
joe rogan
Well, he was talking about how Mengele and a lot of the SS soldiers went to Argentina and continued a lot of their torture experiments, and that they had met some of the people that had been tortured by these SS guys.
Horrific, horrific shit.
brendan schaub
Set them on fire, just the worst shit you can imagine.
joe rogan
Just to see what they could do.
brendan schaub
I went to Argentina like 10 years ago, and I swear, I swear to God, I've never been to a country with so many beautiful women.
unidentified
It was unbelievable.
brendan schaub
You see like 10 at a time, 13, they're like everywhere.
And you would think it would be easy to pick them up, but it's super hard because they have no faith in men.
Because the men there, like prostitution is legal.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They know that there's no reason for a guy to get committed.
So they don't trust guys.
So they're like just...
eddie bravo
That was my experience.
brendan schaub
They just like hang out.
They hang out with each other and they just cock block each other.
joe rogan
They hang out with each other and cock block each other.
eddie bravo
They travel in packs.
They're everywhere.
It's incredible.
joe rogan
Don't say anything crazy while I'm gone.
brendan schaub
I'd love to go to Argentina.
But you watch this.
It's crazy, man.
And Tim said he'd go there and they're so proud of their Nazi grandfather and stuff like that.
And Tim's like, what the fuck, man?
It's crazy.
Crazy.
No, not a lick of Spanish anywhere.
eddie bravo
And Hitler may be, you know.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Joe asked him, he goes, if you had to decide right now, did Hitler die in that building like history tells you?
And this is Tim Kennedy.
He's never told a lie in his life.
He goes, nope, history's wrong on this one.
Dang, and he'd be so happy.
About what?
That history's wrong.
History is often wrong.
That's what I'm saying.
If Tim Kennedy approves it, it's fucking...
We're going sizzler.
Tim Kennedy's never told a lie in his life.
eddie bravo
Are you sure?
brendan schaub
No, dude.
Tim Kennedy's...
I mean, he's as American pie as it gets.
Yeah, yeah.
I love that guy, man.
I cried because I thought he was going to die one time.
I love him.
Yeah, doesn't he have a crazy show where he tries to kill himself?
They try to kill him.
eddie bravo
What's the name of that show?
brendan schaub
What's it called?
It's like some show where someone almost dies.
He goes in an avalanche, jumps out of a plane.
Yes, yes.
Bullfighting.
jamie vernon
Hard to kill.
brendan schaub
Hard to kill.
Tim Kennedy.
Damn, that's a Steven Seagal movie, isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
Terrible movie.
I was a fan as a kid.
But yeah, and then he also has Hunting Hitler on History Channel.
Damn.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
He's a beast, man.
And then he's still serving, doing secret missions and killing people on the side.
His side chick's killing ISIS. That's what he does.
eddie bravo
What?
brendan schaub
He's still active special forces, going on projects and shit, killing people.
For real?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
Dude's another level.
Can't wait for this main event, man.
eddie bravo
Is it next?
brendan schaub
This car's kind of bullshit, man.
God, dog.
jamie vernon
That magnified's next.
brendan schaub
Well, thanks for that.
So how's stand-up going?
It's good, man.
Grinding.
Every weekend you got something?
Yeah, six spots last week.
I got four this week.
Netflix approached you for a special?
unidentified
Nope.
brendan schaub
Not yet?
Not yet, man.
I have a little ways to go.
And you've been doing comedy now for a year?
eddie bravo
Two years?
brendan schaub
Two years.
eddie bravo
Two years.
It's been two years.
unidentified
Shit.
brendan schaub
Two years.
eddie bravo
Really?
brendan schaub
I've been doing Live Fire and the Kids for over three years.
That's where it started.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn.
For some reason, I thought you were doing stand-up for a year.
unidentified
You've been doing it two years.
brendan schaub
My first spot was at the Comedy Store.
I haven't written my phone.
I'd have to look.
Comedy Chaos Night?
No, they gave me a spot in the belly room.
You may be the fastest rising comedian of all time, right?
Like with zero stand-up experience and then all of a sudden you do stand-up and now you're fucking playing all over the world making loot, right?
It's good.
You're getting paid, right?
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Dude, that's incredible.
brendan schaub
I don't know if it's the fastest of all time.
You could be, dude.
Generally, you grind for about 10 years until you pop.
Yeah.
If you do at all.
Yeah.
But I think you can do the Charlie Sheen route where if you have some sort of fall and you do shows and people are like, this sucks, and it'll come back.
I think the sign of it is that you can come back if you sell tickets to places you've been before.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So they know it's not a gimmick.
That's the big thing.
Yeah, it's incredible, man.
Either way, it's incredible.
Congratulations.
Thanks, brother.
Fuck, dude.
Thanks, man.
I was hanging out with Joe in the comedy scene for many, many years.
I've seen comedians just eat shit, crash, come and go, never make it.
eddie bravo
Same guys from 15 years ago still trying to make it.
brendan schaub
Same material.
eddie bravo
What you're doing is incredible, man.
brendan schaub
Thanks, brother.
It's unheard of.
Thanks, man.
Sam was telling me you were killing it the other night.
eddie bravo
I had a good set Friday night.
brendan schaub
That's what he said.
It came together.
It was the first set I did not stoned.
That's good.
So I decided, you know what, unless you're really good at something, you shouldn't be smoking weed and doing it.
You know what I mean?
And until you're super confident and you got your shit down, don't smoke weed.
You know what I mean?
So I decided to try it out, like, not smoke weed.
And go on stage and see what happens.
I heard it went good.
It went better.
That was probably my best set so far.
And then you guys were at Cobbs on Friday?
Friday at Cobbs in San Francisco.
Have you done Cobbs yet?
Never.
I've been there a bunch with Joe.
Love Cobbs.
Back in the day.
The best.
eddie bravo
You've been there a couple times?
brendan schaub
Twice now.
eddie bravo
Headline?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck, dude.
brendan schaub
Twice now and then I'll be back.
eddie bravo
Do you sell it out?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
That's 400 seats.
Yeah.
unidentified
Goddamn.
brendan schaub
Damn, dude.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
Then we do, Saturday, we do Sacramento, The Punchline.
So that's a smaller, I think that's like 150, 200, something like that.
But yeah.
God, this is sick.
San Fran, too.
Until I get my shit together, I'm going to go on stage clear-eyed.
I think that's the smartest route, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And then later, once I feel super confident in my material...
How much material do you have right now?
eddie bravo
My problem is I have way too much material.
brendan schaub
And it's just scattered everywhere.
eddie bravo
All these ideas.
Every day.
brendan schaub
I have new ideas, but they need to be organized more and fleshed out.
And that's what I did for this show, too.
eddie bravo
I decided, you know what?
There's just so much, and it's overwhelming.
brendan schaub
I just took three pieces.
Boom, I go.
eddie bravo
I'm just going to stick to these three pieces.
brendan schaub
Focus on those to cut it out, carve it out.
eddie bravo
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Sam's great at helping with that too.
At first I was writing everything out and then Joey told me, he goes, dude, you're at your best when you don't write it out and you just go off the cuff.
So Joey told me, just have ideas but don't write anything out and just go out there and try it.
And I did that and I think that for me...
You know Friday, I just had powerpoints and a couple lines like okay This line is kind of funny and that line's kind of funny and then I just went off and just kind of just Went for it.
It worked out great worked out Samson.
I just doing ice house last night with Sam said it went good.
joe rogan
Oh cool cool Do you guys write your material out?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Do you write material out?
eddie bravo
Well, you know what?
brendan schaub
Because hanging out with you for fucking 20 years in the comedy clubs, you always stress.
You've got to write shit out.
You've got to write shit out.
You tell every company you write shit out.
eddie bravo
So that's what I was doing.
brendan schaub
I was writing everything out.
And Joey told me, he goes, right now, maybe you shouldn't write shit out.
Just go out there and just free ball.
Just have some ideas.
And I said, are you sure?
eddie bravo
And he said, yeah.
So I did a couple spots with him at the...
brendan schaub
Ontario Improv.
And those are two of the best shows I've done with Joey.
So I decided to do that.
Instead of write everything out, maybe write out the funny, you know what I mean?
eddie bravo
But just kind of go out there and three ball.
brendan schaub
Are you repeating the same set over or are you doing new sets every time?
Every set's mixed up different.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
brendan schaub
So you have to carve out.
joe rogan
The bullet points are like, say if you had a bid on building a table, whatever.
It's the bullet points, the funny parts you have memorized.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the line.
Memorize the funny.
eddie bravo
And then the way you set it up, you're going to have to kind of...
I kind of just go for it.
joe rogan
So it's more natural.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Because if you start memorizing shit, it takes away from...
joe rogan
The spontaneity.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
It just doesn't...
eddie bravo
It's not funny.
brendan schaub
You can find it in there, though.
The spontaneity.
Even though you have a structure, you can play with it.
eddie bravo
The one thing that I've learned, for me, anyways...
brendan schaub
I still watch Chappelle over and over.
Just like, you know...
For me, like the latest Chappelle, when he tells a story and he's telling you like a 10-minute story of how shit went down, to me that's the funniest shit.
eddie bravo
An actual, real event.
brendan schaub
Like the mafia story.
The Russian mafia story with Burt Kreischer.
eddie bravo
It's an actual story.
And you see how real it is when he's describing it.
brendan schaub
Instead of trying to make up a joke and trying to find funny, stick to funny stories.
eddie bravo
And then from there you could kind of, you know.
brendan schaub
You know Joey shooting on a Monday night in Vegas.
Yeah, and they're shooting six of them not six of so there's six comics 30-minute specials Right, but big Jay Oaksins in that who's hilarious.
Yeah, Christina P Thompson, there's wife's is in that that's interesting that she's doing that because she just did I wonder why blowing the fuck up.
I know but why not?
Trying to get that extra blow up.
Yeah.
But with Joey, yeah.
And then they shoot two 30 minutes for him.
He shoots on Monday night in Vegas.
Some room in Vegas.
But when you do those 30 minutes, because I'm used to dealing with you.
I'm like, oh, and you're like, I'm going to shoot it here.
This is what's happening.
And you have saying marketing.
With that, it's different.
You're shooting here.
That's how long it's going to be.
This is where.
This is your time.
Different animal.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different animal for sure.
brendan schaub
Brendan's selling out cobs in San Francisco by himself.
Holy shit.
You know, that's fucking huge, man.
joe rogan
He sold out the Wilbur in Boston.
brendan schaub
The what?
joe rogan
The Wilbur Theater in Boston.
It's 1,100-something seats.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
unidentified
Goddamn.
brendan schaub
I told him he's probably one of the fastest rising comics coming from never doing stand-up.
I mean, who else is there, really?
joe rogan
Um, ever.
Ever.
brendan schaub
Right?
joe rogan
No, ever.
brendan schaub
Ever.
joe rogan
That's what I'm telling you.
From never doing stand-up to selling out theaters in two years.
brendan schaub
Did you know this?
joe rogan
Crazy.
brendan schaub
I mean, it's incredible.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
And doing, like, fucking an hour and killing.
Like, you put in the work, dude.
What I tell other young comics, I say, pay attention to him, because this is what happens when a person takes pro-athlete type of discipline and applies it to stand-up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That discipline is everything.
That work ethic and discipline, that's everything, man.
It changes the whole game because a lot of comics are funny, but they're fucking lazy.
They're fucking lazy.
That's why you're dealing with guys who do the same material year after year after year and they never do specials.
There's a bunch of those guys that are really talented guys.
They never bother to record anything because they don't want to have to write.
They don't have to rewrite.
brendan schaub
It doesn't make sense to me.
We talk about work ethic and stuff like that.
I see these other comedians who maybe aren't doing it, but like, Don't you see the guys like Rogan and Burr and D'Elia?
You want to do what they do, right?
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's got a guillotine.
unidentified
It's over.
joe rogan
Oh, tap.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Nasty.
brendan schaub
It's the same with fighting, Joe.
It's like, you look at GSP, it's like, he's doing this and this.
Don't you want to be like that?
Should probably follow that plan.
But people get scared, man.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
You get scared, and then you finally get some tools, right?
Like, say if you have an act.
Like, you put together an act, and you're, like, before you're ready to film a special, The idea is that your act is killing, right?
So if your act is killing, you've got it molded and honed.
You don't want to let that go.
Like, I've got to let it go.
brendan schaub
I can't wait to let it go.
joe rogan
I've got to kick it aside.
But if you don't do that, you don't keep getting better.
But here's the thing.
One thing that I've learned, even though there's a lot of fear in letting go of that old material, you always write new, better material.
Because you're a better comedian now.
You understand comedy better.
brendan schaub
More experience.
joe rogan
Yeah, so you're just going to do better.
For me, letting go of that Bruce Jenner bit, God, that was so hard.
brendan schaub
Because of the special?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I couldn't do that if my life depended on it right now.
I don't know how it works.
I don't know the beats.
And I wouldn't do it right.
But when you get to a point when you get a bit so tight and so finely tuned, that's when you gotta let it go.
And then you move on to the next one.
And I've got some shit now that's killing harder than that bit.
It did.
But when I first started doing, you know, a year ago, a year plus ago, when I first released that Netflix special, and then I went right into writing new material and doing new material, it was all on shaky legs, man.
And a lot of people don't like that shaky legs feeling.
You get real scared.
But you gotta go through that.
You gotta go through that.
And that's what makes you grow and continue to get better.
But you know one of the things that helps me a lot?
That Jeremiah Watkins show.
That stand-up on the spot.
Dude, that is a fucking farm for material.
brendan schaub
So much fun.
joe rogan
Because people yell, like, someone look at you and go, uh, hurricanes!
And you're like, man, hurricanes.
And then you start talking shit.
And every now and then you'll say something and it's like, ah!
brendan schaub
And the crowd knows.
Like, you know, you're just riffing.
They know you're not shooting specials.
So everyone's pretty loosey-goosey, and they'll yell, like, strippers!
I'm like, what about them?
You know, like, you have fun with it.
joe rogan
It's amazing, dude.
It's an amazing resource.
To have those shows where someone just yells.
He used to call it Thunder Pussy.
They used to do it in the Ice House.
The Thunder Pussy's a great name for it.
brendan schaub
It's so intense.
joe rogan
Just so silly.
unidentified
Stand up on the spot and it says, I mean...
joe rogan
But, yeah, I've been doing that show for years.
That's helped me a lot.
brendan schaub
And I told Jeremiah, you were telling me how you got bits from it.
And it's the same thing with fighting.
Like, if you're in the training room, you know how this is.
There's one guy who's fucking, he's really good.
And, you know, maybe he tapped out last time.
You don't mean to avoid him because it's going to be the toughest round.
Like, I'll just go over here.
That's how I was with Jeremiah on Stamp on the Spot.
I was like, man, I know my stuff.
I write all my stuff.
I know what I want to do here, and I can't have fun with that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard.
brendan schaub
And I kept canceling on him.
He would text me, like, this week?
I'm like, yeah, for sure.
Then the next day I'm like, dude, I'm swamped.
I'm like, that swamp?
And then I told him, like, hey, next time you ask me to do it, no, I'm lying to you.
I need to do this because I'm scared of it.
What's the show called?
joe rogan
Stand Up on the Spot.
brendan schaub
Jeremiah Watkins, Belly Room.
I think there's a show.
eddie bravo
When does he do that?
brendan schaub
Every Tuesday night?
joe rogan
Yeah, Tuesday night.
eddie bravo
Stand Up on the Spot?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, not every Tuesday night.
brendan schaub
No, not every Tuesday night.
unidentified
Once a month.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Once a month.
I'm saying I think it's this Tuesday, by the way.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
brendan schaub
I would try that.
Am I going crazy?
I thought he said, because I was trying to do three spots in a night, and I go, hey, you have to stand up in the spot.
He goes, no.
Because I went Lafracture Comedy Store, and I was trying to get another spot.
joe rogan
I don't think it's until June.
Honestly, I think he just did it, and I was out of town.
brendan schaub
No, I was on his last one.
joe rogan
When was that?
How long ago?
brendan schaub
Two weeks ago?
joe rogan
Yeah, so the next one would be like two weeks.
unidentified
All right.
brendan schaub
That sounds like fun.
joe rogan
Oh, it's the best.
June 12th.
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Tuesday, June 12th.
I fucking love it, man.
It's really fun, and it's always packed, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's packed, and again, the crowd knows what's going on.
You did that for a while after your shows.
You would do that question and answer, and there was nothing anybody could have yelled out that you couldn't tie into some past bit.
You know what I mean?
There wasn't anything.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's better though.
The stand up on the spot thing is better because it's not that.
It's not past bits.
It's all just off the top of your head.
brendan schaub
You can't do material.
No, they tell you no material.
It's got to be new shit.
joe rogan
Some people have done it and done their act too.
The crowd gets mad.
brendan schaub
They know.
They know what's up.
You can tell what's off the top and what's up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, remember when we did fan Q&A at Wilbur?
So I did my show, and then, you know, Boston, it was late, and, you know, the dudes were drunk.
One guy kept, like, heckling Joe, and Joe just fucking went nuclear on the guy.
I was like, typically isn't how my fan questions go, but fucking...
In a scarf on?
unidentified
Dude!
joe rogan
I lit that too on fire.
brendan schaub
What the fuck are you doing?
You lit him on fire.
unidentified
Dude.
brendan schaub
All right, well, that's it for big questions.
Way to go, fuckface.
joe rogan
Well, he was just trying so hard to get attention.
It was just so ridiculous.
brendan schaub
I've witnessed many, many people getting torched by Joe.
It's awesome watching Joe, because Joe...
He doesn't want to release until the guy, it's clear, 100% he deserves it.
So a guy will yell and he's like, calm down, everything.
eddie bravo
And inside he's like, keep going.
He doesn't want to feel guilty.
So when Joe decides to go off, it's over, son.
brendan schaub
There's no way.
Joe with a mic, forget it.
Joe without a mic, you're still fucked.
eddie bravo
With a mic, you have no shot.
brendan schaub
I saw Dane Cook go hard on these two girls in the front row.
joe rogan
When?
brendan schaub
I was at the comic store last Tuesday night.
Oh my god, they went and quit talking.
And he's like, honey, he's trying to get through a story.
And it was a longer story.
You could tell he's doing new material.
He's trying to get through it.
They kept interrupting.
He's like, I can go in on you if you want.
Say another thing.
And she goes, another thing.
He goes, you want to do this?
And then just fucking...
I mean, it was just brutal, man.
It made the show, though.
Because he did about 20 minutes of it.
joe rogan
There's a lot of fucking heckling at the Comedy Store lately.
A lot of people want to become a part of the show.
brendan schaub
That's a terrible idea.
Warning.
There should be a warning warning.
joe rogan
Oh, there's two girls in the front row the other night just drunk and sloppy and talking really loud.
You know, like you're on stage and you hear them and you try to ignore them, but then you see the rest of the crowd going like this.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's when you have to...
You have to.
joe rogan
You see people turning towards them.
You're like, alright, I gotta play copier.
Most of the time, the store's on top of that.
brendan schaub
Big time.
joe rogan
Which is a new thing.
In the old days, yeah.
The way I got good at heckling, at hecklers, one of the big ways is there was no crowd control at the store.
I mean, zero.
brendan schaub
Mad Max.
joe rogan
Because in the old days when I used to go there, the fucking comedians were all doormen and security.
Everything was all comedians.
It's not that anymore.
Now they have like legit security, like big guys that take care of everything.
People have earpieces on.
They're in control of everything.
When the store picked up the business...
Like, about three years ago, when it really took off, three, four years ago, that's when they go, okay, look, this place is sold out every fucking night, and then a guy got murdered there.
There was a murder on the front porch.
unidentified
What?!
joe rogan
Yeah, a guy got shot to death on the front porch.
Yeah, it was some gang-related type thing.
brendan schaub
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Some guy did something to somebody, and apparently the dude who got killed, he had some really dark shit on his Facebook, too.
matt braunger
Pictures of people tied up and shit.
joe rogan
And they murdered him.
They shot him right on the front porch.
And from then on, they put a super intense security system in there, cameras everywhere, hired real security everywhere, and ramped up the place.
Stop letting people walk into the parking lot.
That was a big one, too, because people would just stroll into the parking lot.
And these drunks, people would be backing up their cars.
People would be getting hit by people's cars.
brendan schaub
What a shit show.
joe rogan
It was a shit show.
brendan schaub
What do you think is going to happen to the comedy store now that Mitzi's passed away?
Do you think that...
Polly's gonna sell it?
joe rogan
No, the business is better than ever.
The thing about it is, it's sold out every night, and it's making a lot of money.
Like, if you go to the comedy store on a Tuesday night, you're gonna have a sold-out main room, 400 people.
Sold-out OR, 170 people.
Sold-out belly room, 80 people.
I mean, that is big money.
But every night, two shows a night, oftentimes...
brendan schaub
That's why I was gonna say, two main room shows every night are both sold out now.
joe rogan
Thousands and thousands of people funneling into that place as far as like from the beginning of the shows that started at 8 o'clock till 2 o'clock in the morning people are buying drinks.
eddie bravo
Is it enough money?
Is it enough money to keep it running?
brendan schaub
Fuck yes.
joe rogan
Yes, it's very profitable.
It's making more money now than in the history of the club.
Never made more money.
Ever.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
So it's a viable...
I mean, it's crazy.
It's all within the last three and a half years.
Three and a half, four years.
eddie bravo
All since you've been back.
joe rogan
Yeah, it all just, boom.
It took off.
eddie bravo
This podcast blew it up.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Single-handedly.
eddie bravo
You coming back.
brendan schaub
A big part of it.
And they don't deny it.
I talked to the management there.
They don't deny it.
I asked them, like, what do you think's the cause of this boom?
eddie bravo
He said, Joe Rogan.
They all said, Joe Rogan.
brendan schaub
Huge part of it.
And then you have all the comics coming through.
It's the golden age of comedy right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's also the talent there.
There's so much talent there.
It's crazy how good those shows are.
I mean, you look at the lineup sometimes and you're like, what the fuck?
brendan schaub
Dude, I ran over because Patton Oswalt's doing stand-up again.
I ran over to see him because he's there for the whole week.
And usually he's a New York comic.
He's just up at the OR and went, friggin' Tom Papa.
joe rogan
Patton's usually a New York comic?
What do you mean?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He lives out here.
I know, but he was in New York for a while when he was starting his stand-up.
I only saw him posting about New York.
I was like, I can't wait for him to come back here.
joe rogan
Oh, when he started doing it again?
eddie bravo
Again, yeah.
brendan schaub
I saw him doing spots in New York a lot.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and I saw him back here.
joe rogan
He's a good guy, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it went Tom Papa, Patton Oswalt, then Rogan, then Delia.
I mean, nuts.
Top five guys at the Comedy Store right now that are regulars.
joe rogan
With Joey for sure.
Burr's there all the time.
Delia's there all the time.
Theo Vaughn is a motherfucking monster.
He's there all the time.
Who else?
Who else would you go with?
Hinchcliffe's been killing.
Santino's a monster.
Santino's a monster.
brendan schaub
He's underrated.
joe rogan
He's a fucking monster.
Tom Segura's a monster.
Christina's a monster.
brendan schaub
Bert Kreischer.
joe rogan
Bert Kreischer.
God, man.
There's so many.
There's so many.
Yeah, there's so...
Tom Papa, there's so many.
Um...
Neil Brennan.
It's a fucking, it's a crazy place right now.
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
Insane.
joe rogan
Bobby Lee.
I mean, it's just killer after killer.
I mean, I was walking by the OR the other night.
brendan schaub
Eliza Schlesinger, Whitney Cummings.
joe rogan
Walking by the OR the other night, and it was just roars coming out of there.
And I was like, this place is nuts.
And then you go down the hallway, and there's roars coming out of the main room.
brendan schaub
Crazy, right?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
The greatest time ever for stand-up.
Greatest time ever.
brendan schaub
You go in there and you just feel it, man, in the walls.
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
And then you go over to the Laugh Factory and it's like an antique shop.
That's what Theo Vaughn said.
Theo Vaughn said it's like an antique shop.
brendan schaub
When Theo said it, it's like being in an antique shop.
I went, oh my God.
You can't say that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can.
When they started filming people, everybody was like, what?
They started filming people just putting it up on YouTube.
They say they're not doing it anymore, but everybody just lost all faith in that place.
They're like, yeah, the fuck?
brendan schaub
I still do spots where I can, but they're not releasing my shit.
joe rogan
The fact that they would do that, it's like, you guys are out of your fucking mind.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
What are you thinking, man?
joe rogan
And then offering people half of the revenue.
brendan schaub
For YouTube.
joe rogan
Yeah, for YouTube.
brendan schaub
Why wouldn't I just put it on myself?
What age are you living in?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then when confronted, they're like, well, Tiffany Haddish is making so much money now and it's all because of this.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
That's why.
joe rogan
Delusional.
I don't know what he did, the guy who owns it.
I don't know why he did letting those kids do that and put those things up.
But people that had no idea about the stand-up comedy business.
brendan schaub
Bad idea.
joe rogan
Basically interns.
Just filming people's sets and putting all their material online.
brendan schaub
But the way it works is, you know, it's a close committee, so if Joe or whoever, Santino goes, hey, they're filming, don't do it there anymore.
joe rogan
That's it.
brendan schaub
I mean, you just don't.
joe rogan
It's a ghost town.
brendan schaub
Don't go there.
joe rogan
I mean, you'll have three sold-out shows not even a half a mile away at the comedy store, and then they're canceling shows.
brendan schaub
Different animals.
joe rogan
Because there's no one there.
brendan schaub
Different animals.
joe rogan
There's no audience.
brendan schaub
But then the improv's still doing...
joe rogan
The improv's doing better.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And you know what the improv did?
unidentified
I still like the improv.
joe rogan
The improv moved that stupid fucking piano off the stage.
brendan schaub
About time.
joe rogan
They put a platform on the side and pushed the piano over to the side.
The piano would fuck up the whole show for anybody that was on the right side of the stage.
brendan schaub
They can't see it, but also the comic didn't have much room.
Icehouse still bumping, right?
joe rogan
Bumping, yeah.
Especially when good comics are there.
You know, with the Ice House, it's all about they have to have good people to get out to Pasadena.
Because the Ice House, they've had sketchy lineups in the past.
Like, you know, they'll have Joey and Brenda.
They'll have, like, real shows that are really funny, but they'll also have, like, some bullshit.
And they had, for years, they had some bullshit shows.
brendan schaub
Which kills your brand, because if you get known as that, where it's, like, the gimmicky bullshit guys, people are going to be like, oh, Friday night, let's just go see who's playing at the Ice House.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, oh, fuck that, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, people will go down there and they'll expect to see like a Joey Diaz show and then some whack-ass fucking road guy who does like cruise ships.
brendan schaub
But is it more for the people that live in that area?
Like, I mean, isn't it like a local kind of thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's still, if it's a bad show, it's a bad show.
They don't want to come back.
See if it's a good show.
Like, they know when I do, I do those Wednesday nights once a month there.
And they know if you go down there, I'm going to have killers on that show.
brendan schaub
Oh, you decide who goes on?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's on my show.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's your show?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Wednesday nights?
joe rogan
I do one Thursday night at the Comedy Store every month, and I do one Wednesday night at the Ice House every month.
brendan schaub
Is it called Joe and Friends?
joe rogan
Yeah, Joe Rogan and Friends.
And the next one at the Comedy Store is June...
Uh, 21st.
June 21st.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And just in the green room, like last time it was Tony, Theo, you, me, just hanging out back there.
It was like the best time.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's fun.
brendan schaub
I could have been out to two in the morning.
Everybody's laughing.
It's the best, man.
Yeah.
Those guys made me laugh so hard.
All you guys.
joe rogan
Well, it's just, it's hard to find groups of people that are just...
Savages.
Just loose and fun and ridiculous.
And then this is the world they live in.
They live in this comedy world.
So they're traveling around a lot, fucking around, having a good time, talking shit.
brendan schaub
And one person to say something, then it's just like...
Everyone's like, yeah!
It's fucking on.
It's the best.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun, man.
Fun times.
Everyone's baked.
It's just...
brendan schaub
It almost feels like high school with your good friends.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, you know when you walk into, like, first period and all your boys, like, went to the front?
That's what it feels like.
joe rogan
Well, in a lot of ways, right?
Because one of the things that happens as you get older is you lose all the fun.
Because you have responsibilities and you have a job you hate.
And you gotta get up in the morning and you're always tired.
And this is the world that most people live in.
When you could find a place where...
It's all basically people that avoided that rat race and figured out some sneaky way through the system.
And that sneaky way is talking shit.
eddie bravo
No soundcheck needed.
brendan schaub
You just get on stage.
Especially when high-level comedians go up like yourself.
You're going to get an hour of laughs over and over again.
It's way better than a funny movie.
Yeah, but if you're a new comic, I'm getting education, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a little bit of that.
You're hanging around with those people more often.
brendan schaub
I can go listen to Theo Vaughn talk about something, then me and Joe talk business, and I'll go watch Patton Oswalt do his set, and then I'll watch Joey Diaz, and then Bill Burr's coming in.
joe rogan
And for me, as long as I've been doing comedy, I still love it.
I still love watching it.
I still love watching it.
If someone's killing, I still love it.
I love it.
It's just, it's a great form of entertainment.
And I think it's necessary to, because people get so serious about certain subjects, if someone could just come along and mock it and laugh at it so hard, and then you realize, like, oh, this is fucking ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
It alleviates pressure.
brendan schaub
What was fascinating to me the other night with Tom Papa, Oswald, and Tony Hinchcliffe, they all had the same premises on their joke, but each opinion was so different.
I was laughing so hard, man.
But you just see how everyone's different, but it's the popular subject.
eddie bravo
Like Trump?
brendan schaub
No.
Like sexual assault.
It was so funny, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I like Joey's...
I don't want to give away his...
unidentified
Yeah, I don't.
brendan schaub
He's got a great bid on that.
joe rogan
Neil Magny is tough to take down, huh?
brendan schaub
Very tough.
joe rogan
Very wiry.
Long...
And who's this gentleman that he's fighting?
jamie vernon
James White.
brendan schaub
James White?
joe rogan
Do you know anything about him?
eddie bravo
Craig White.
joe rogan
Craig White?
unidentified
It's supposed to be...
brendan schaub
Oh, why am I drawing a blank?
What's homeboy's name?
unidentified
Gunnar.
brendan schaub
Gunnar Nelson.
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What happened at Gunnar?
He got injured?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure, but that was going to be a hell of a fight.
Neil's beat some tough guys.
He beat Kelvin Gaslin.
He beat Kelvin.
joe rogan
He beat Johnny Hendricks.
unidentified
He beat Hector Lombard.
eddie bravo
Hector Lombard, Kelvin Gaslin, and Johnny Hendricks.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
It's pretty good.
brendan schaub
He can retire now.
Yeah.
Whenever he fights a jiu-jitsu guy, he's screwed.
It's his Achilles heel because they take him down and murk him up.
His jiu-jitsu's not that good?
His defense is just, you know, but when I say it's his Achilles heel, the very tip of the spare black belts fuck him up.
joe rogan
That's why I was so impressed with Dos Anjos.
Dos Anjos smashed Neil.
He leg kicked him, dragged him to the ground, and choked the fuck out of him.
brendan schaub
Well, Damian Maia did that.
That other homeboy guy, Inverted Triangle, the bald guy, I forget his name, who's ridiculous at Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilian.
Bald guy?
unidentified
Bald guy.
brendan schaub
Bald Brazilian?
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Inverted Triangle.
brendan schaub
Bald Brazilian?
Tiago Alves?
No, no, no.
jamie vernon
Sergio Morais.
joe rogan
Oh, Sergio Morais.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that guy's really good.
Yeah, Sergio Morais is really good.
brendan schaub
And then Damian Maia was like, "You do what?" He's got a...
He triangled someone from the Mount years ago, and I'll never forget it.
I forgot his name because of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a beast, man.
eddie bravo
He set it up beautifully.
joe rogan
He's got a crazy tricep, too.
He's like missing a tricep.
Like, you look at one of his arms, like his tricep is non-existent.
He must have broke off and slid up.
Yeah, it must have tore and he never got it fixed.
Because they tear him ravel up, like a fruit roll up.
Yeah, he never got it fixed because he's got a bicep, but then there's nothing behind it.
It's very weird looking on one of his arms.
brendan schaub
What's he doing?
He's still fighting.
joe rogan
Just got KO'd.
Just got KO'd by somebody.
Somebody good.
Pull up Sergio Morai.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was the first guy to tap Krohn as a black belt.
Look at that!
eddie bravo
Magni in the mount!
Magni in the mount!
joe rogan
Yeah, see how his left tricep is kind of missing?
It's even weirder when you see it hanging low.
brendan schaub
It's pretty weird there.
joe rogan
Pull up his record, Jamie.
eddie bravo
Look at this shit!
brendan schaub
Magni in the mount!
He's going for an arm triangle here.
joe rogan
Immediately escaped.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
He's gonna stand up.
Let me see his...
There we go.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Just go to his record, though.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's right here.
joe rogan
Where is it?
brendan schaub
Scroll down.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
His actual fights.
brendan schaub
Oh, he beat Tim Means?
joe rogan
Usman KO'd him.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
That was Usman's only KO. Really?
Yeah, Usman has a lot of decisions, man.
unidentified
Mm.
joe rogan
Super disappointed in that stand-up.
Matt Serra was going off about the referee.
About the referee separating them when Damian Maia had his back.
brendan schaub
That was ridiculous.
It was really bad.
Who was the ref?
joe rogan
I want to say it was Leon Roberts.
Wasn't it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
It was a terrible decision.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're getting too crazy with the stand-ups.
They're getting way too crazy.
They need to relax.
joe rogan
Well, especially in that situation.
You got a guy who's a strangulation expert that finally gets to clinch on a world-class wrestler.
brendan schaub
Especially early in the first round.
joe rogan
Early in the first round.
Got a real good position on him.
And you also have to think Maya took this fight with zero camp.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Neil Magny.
brendan schaub
There you go, Neil.
Finish it off, Neil.
Neil's whooping his ass.
joe rogan
He's hurt.
brendan schaub
Come on, Neil.
He need him right in the face.
Yeah, he did.
But it was legal.
Yeah.
For sure legal.
Oh, he's out.
joe rogan
Oh, he's out.
brendan schaub
That's it.
joe rogan
Neil Magny.
brendan schaub
First round, baby.
Damn.
joe rogan
Big win.
Powerful Neil Magny.
Neil Magny's stopping, motherfuckers.
brendan schaub
Powerful back on Neil.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a long dude, huh?
brendan schaub
That's about as long as it gets for 170. Great cardio, long.
joe rogan
Yeah, and good fight IQ, you know?
Like, never blows his wad.
He's always in there.
Like, look at that.
Just finish the guy.
He's barely breathing heavy.
I mean, seriously, man.
That dude is in fucking shape.
unidentified
He's a freak.
brendan schaub
He's always been that way, man.
joe rogan
Is that just a discipline thing?
Just always training hard?
brendan schaub
He's a military guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Also a Denver thing, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, but he was in Chicago.
I had the same fucking cardio.
Because I was one of the coaches on Ultimate Fighter 14. He came off that season.
Even then, they're like, dude, look at the cardio on Neil.
joe rogan
What does he do for cardio?
You know him well.
brendan schaub
He just trains nonstop.
He lived with Nate Markhart when he first came to Denver.
Nate trained nonstop, so he just kind of took on that role.
He just trains nonstop.
joe rogan
Is Nate retired?
brendan schaub
Yes.
Nate's done.
That's good.
He's doing the Lord's work now.
joe rogan
Oh.
What kind of work is that?
brendan schaub
Whatever the Lord wants him to do.
joe rogan
What's the Lord saying?
brendan schaub
I think sell Bibles.
I don't know what they do.
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
So he's working for a church or something?
brendan schaub
I think so.
He's trying to become a priest or something like that.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
He was always super religious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Always.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm glad he's retired.
brendan schaub
Great guy.
joe rogan
He had a lot of great fights, man.
A lot of great fights.
brendan schaub
One of the greats.
Nate the Great.
joe rogan
His KO of Tyron Woodley for the Strikeforce Welterweight Champ is one of the all-time highlight real KOs.
brendan schaub
Mortal Kombat KO. Yeah, literally.
Mortal Kombat.
joe rogan
Elbows.
brendan schaub
The best.
I love Nate.
joe rogan
Elbows and uppercuts, son.
brendan schaub
He's so goddamn tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
For sure.
He's a guy that was real active and real proficient before anybody knew anything about MMA. He started when he was 17. Joey, he's called me a couple times.
brendan schaub
Should I answer the phone if he calls?
joe rogan
Call him back.
Listen, cocksucker.
joey diaz
I made a watch that Darren Till.
joe rogan
Darren Till's over there eating Pop-Tarts.
He weighs 500 pounds.
brendan schaub
He's talking about Mackenzie Dern's ass last night again.
Again?
joe rogan
He's terrible about that.
brendan schaub
John, what do you think happened there?
joe rogan
What do you think that smells like?
brendan schaub
What do you think happened there?
unidentified
You think she's just eating all the fucking time?
brendan schaub
I don't know, Joey.
I don't know her personally.
joe rogan
She missed weight by seven pounds.
brendan schaub
She's fucking smoking, though, right?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
brendan schaub
She's a very attractive girl.
joe rogan
Joey's right now in the middle of bong hits.
He can't answer that phone.
brendan schaub
He'll answer.
Hmm, really?
unidentified
You have reached the voicemail box.
brendan schaub
Guess not.
joe rogan
Maybe he's calling me.
brendan schaub
Oh, there it is.
joe rogan
Calling you back?
brendan schaub
Where you been, dog?
joe rogan
What was that?
joey diaz
How many times have I got to call you, dawg?
joe rogan
We're on the podcast.
brendan schaub
We're on JRE Fight Companion Live.
What's up?
unidentified
Alright.
joey diaz
What are you doing?
I ain't watching dick.
I got shit to do on people to see.
unidentified
I ain't got time to watch people kick each other in the fucking head today.
eddie bravo
You're on the air.
brendan schaub
You're on speakerphone.
joe rogan
Tell me.
Come on by.
Come on by for the main event.
unidentified
You're what?
joey diaz
What are you doing to show the cops?
eddie bravo
Oh, Cobbs is this Friday in San Francisco.
joey diaz
This Friday.
We'll see you one day this week on the show to discuss your comedy career as a fucking...
What do you call that?
A fucking extraterrestrial fucking comic.
unidentified
whatever the fuck it's a trashy tinfoil and actual trashy whatever that fuck you call it Martian comedy What?
joey diaz
You're fueling the flames of this shit, Joe Ruben.
You're better than I am.
Copsucker.
unidentified
Fucking people.
joey diaz
I'm over here smoking the weed Denny smoked.
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
I'm crazy.
joey diaz
But Netflix next week, I'm fucking got a terrible new asshole.
They came out last night to see Uncle Joey.
I was dropping fucking narco jokes on him and shit.
I'm ready to go, dog.
I'm going to cryotherapy right now.
Nice.
Nice.
Beautiful.
And that's it.
Enjoy fucking Till against Wonderboy and my man against the other guy.
I'll watch it tonight on tape.
joe rogan
7 and 9 p.m.
joey diaz
in Las Vegas.
joe rogan
And where at?
Yeah, where are they filming at?
joey diaz
Downtown, I think.
Some place they got.
It's a small place, Joe.
It was made for us.
It's like 100 seats less than the original room, nice and tight.
joe rogan
Really?
joey diaz
A couple years ago.
Yeah.
Are there tickets available?
There's no tickets available.
I mean, there's something for you.
You know what I'm saying?
If you show up in the helicopter, I can't deny you.
joe rogan
We might have to get in the Batmobile and go down there and represent.
joey diaz
If you show up in the Trump Tower copter, then you're in no danger.
You know what I'm saying?
You just walk in and take the mic and tell people what time it is.
joe rogan
I can't wait for people to see that special, Joey.
brendan schaub
It's gonna be fucking nuts.
joe rogan
I can't wait.
joey diaz
I'm working hard.
I've never worked this hard in my life.
I didn't know the meaning of this since I listened to you and the tapings and the trying shit.
And now I'm just doing 28 minute sets all week.
28, 28, 28. Boom!
I gotta get the beginning more jazzed up because I gotta make them watch.
So I gotta go out there like a fucking meteor, you understand me?
I gotta go out there and hold them till like 14 minutes and let them...
I got the strategy.
I'm gonna go out there and fucking just go off for about 14, then we go to our different corners, and then I come on and I pick my shots.
Pick my fucking shots like when fucking Eddie's guy fought that dude and he fucked the really good striker.
I gotta pick my shots in the second round and then the third round go out there and just fucking four point combinations ending with leg kicks to tear down the knee until you can't take it no more.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the strategy right there.
I'm breaking it down to three rounds, Joe Rogan.
brendan schaub
You did it last night, Joey.
You did it last night at the Ice House.
I told Rogan you said I'm on fire, man.
joey diaz
Yeah, no, no, no.
I broke it down to three rounds.
And I'm cutting that and adding.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm cutting.
I'm looking at it like an MMA fighter.
So I'm training for a fight.
So the first 11 minutes, it's fucked.
And I got to jump on your criminal shit.
brendan schaub
Like old school Vitor.
joey diaz
The whole fucking old school.
Old school Vitor.
The second round, I'm just picking my shots like your guy against Edson Barboza.
He picked his shots.
He picked them apart.
He kicked them in the side.
He fucked up that sciatic nerve.
unidentified
He kicked them in the body.
You know, you just gotta get any shots.
joey diaz
And then the third round, I come out like fucking that black dude in the 70s that fought when they gave him the bottle filled with cocaine milk.
joe rogan
Aaron Pryor.
joey diaz
Remember Joe Rogan?
joe rogan
Aaron Pryor.
joey diaz
Cocaine milk.
unidentified
Aaron Pryor.
joey diaz
Drop some knowledge, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Aaron Pryor.
joey diaz
These motherfuckers don't know dicks.
The magic bottle.
joe rogan
That's right.
joey diaz
The same one Dana brought out for the fight against Alto against Conor McGregor.
*laughter* That's the same one they gave fucking Conor against Aldo Don't tell me I know the characteristics of that fucking milk What the fuck do you think you're dealing with?
In the third round, we come out like fucking Aaron Pryor.
What was that trainer's name?
eddie bravo
Is that Emmanuel Stewart?
We're watching it right now.
Jamie just put it up.
Alexis Arguello.
joe rogan
Alexis Arguello, Aaron Pryor.
He's getting fucked up.
Panama Lewis!
Panama Lewis!
joey diaz
Panama Lewis gave the bottle with the original shit.
The shit Noriega was sending up.
joe rogan
Yeah, he gave it to him.
joey diaz
He mixed up with some coconut water.
He ain't no looking back.
joe rogan
And then Aaron Pryor came out just throwing bombs and fucked Alexis Arguello up.
That was a great fight, man.
joey diaz
A great fight.
This is a great fight.
This is the way you gotta do it.
joe rogan
Man, old school boxing.
Aaron Pryor.
eddie bravo
The bottle.
joe rogan
This fight's called The Bottle.
Is it called The Bottle?
He said, get him the bottle that I mixed.
eddie bravo
Did they capture that on video?
Did they have the bottle?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
He said, give him the bottle that I mixed.
joe rogan
It's smoke coming out of it.
brendan schaub
I wonder what the fuck was in that thing?
joe rogan
Cocaine.
brendan schaub
Damn, he's doing work!
joe rogan
Look at him.
eddie bravo
Where's the bottle?
joe rogan
No, get the other one.
The one that I mixed.
brendan schaub
Look at it.
eddie bravo
Okay, there's a bottle.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Not that one.
Give me the other one.
joey diaz
How fucking beautiful is that?
eddie bravo
Okay, that's one bottle.
joe rogan
He's got him sniffing shit.
brendan schaub
No, they drank him one, and that was the one.
He goes, give me that one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bang!
He got hurt before that.
brendan schaub
He's getting fucked up.
joe rogan
Alexis Arguello had a nasty right hand, man.
joey diaz
And he was watery as shit long.
joe rogan
So this is not the main event, is it?
Yeah, this is the main event.
Here we are.
All right.
Let's go right back to the fight.
Joey, we're about to watch Wonder Boy vs.
unidentified
Till.
We love you, man.
brendan schaub
Love you, man.
eddie bravo
Love you, man.
joey diaz
All right.
We'll see you this week, brothers.
Thank you.
unidentified
Later.
eddie bravo
Okay, man.
brendan schaub
See you.
eddie bravo
Bye.
joe rogan
Here's Darren Till.
eddie bravo
Who's better than him?
joe rogan
He's the best.
unidentified
Who's better?
joe rogan
I love that guy.
brendan schaub
Oh, then Joey did.
I thought you were saying Till.
unidentified
I'm like, well, there's two to have him right now.
joe rogan
Well, it's kind of amazing that he's even top ten with one win over a big guy.
In Donald Cerrone, he's really a 155-pounder.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's insane that I'm picking him to win the fight.
joe rogan
I am not a fan of how they do the ratings.
brendan schaub
Do you think ESPN? Remember, that's a Fox thing.
So is ESPN going to stick with it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Is it Fox's decision?
brendan schaub
That was one of Fox's deals.
They want rankings because they didn't think the public could understand who's who without the rankings.
joe rogan
They're too arbitrary.
They're too disagreed upon by high-level people.
brendan schaub
No matter how you do it, you can never get it right, so you might as well just try it and just let it fly.
eddie bravo
You've got to have rankings.
brendan schaub
This is the problem, though.
It's fighters going, wait, he's six, but I'm five.
I'm not fighting six, man.
Before, we didn't know what Dare 2 was ranked.
We didn't know what Wonder Boy was ranked.
eddie bravo
You gotta do what Pride did.
brendan schaub
Just make him fight.
If you decline a fight, they'll never ask you again.
They try.
joe rogan
This is exciting, man.
I'm fucking pumped for this fight.
brendan schaub
It took long enough.
I feel like we've been in for seven hours.
joe rogan
Darren Till's got those old school Thai tattoos on his back.
The kind they tap in.
They do that with the fucking, the tapper.
You ever seen those?
That's those old school temple tattoos.
Is that his girlfriend on his arm?
brendan schaub
I think it's his older girlfriend.
Or is it his daughter?
joe rogan
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
No, he probably got that in Brazil.
They probably don't have the best tattoo artist.
But remember, he was young when he got that.
joe rogan
The tattoo?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It looks like Charlize Theron from Monster.
You think there's a guy out there with a tattoo of a chick that's like a one-night stand, like one crazy night?
unidentified
Of course.
brendan schaub
That was the hottest chick ever!
joe rogan
There's probably a million guys with that.
brendan schaub
With a one-night stand?
unidentified
Tattooed?
brendan schaub
Yeah, she sucked the meanest dick ever.
He's like, I'm being tatted.
unidentified
He's like, respect!
joe rogan
I'm putting her on my back.
Respect.
brendan schaub
Respect, girl.
jamie vernon
Yeah, no, it's his girlfriend.
joe rogan
It's his girlfriend?
Okay.
So, um, that's a commitment right there, right?
brendan schaub
Marry her.
Yeah, you're into that one.
joe rogan
That's how scared dudes are of marriage.
Look, I'll tattoo you on my arm for life, but I ain't getting married, man.
Marriage is too permanent.
It's too dangerous.
So many people scared of that marriage, buddy.
Here he goes.
Darren Till.
brendan schaub
Listen to that crowd, man.
It's too bad Liverpool lost yesterday.
Otherwise this place would be fucking even on more fire.
joe rogan
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Big moment for this kid.
joe rogan
Big moment.
We're going to find out a lot about him.
brendan schaub
Look how big he is, man.
joe rogan
He's big, but so is Wonderboy, man.
Wonderboy's a tall fella.
He's an inch taller.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy's tall.
Wonderboy's not as meaty, is he?
joe rogan
No, he's not.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy's name is Wonderboy.
His is the gorilla.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But who named Wonderboy Wonderboy?
And who named the gorilla the gorilla?
brendan schaub
See, that's what's important.
joe rogan
That's what's up.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
What if you called yourself Big Brown?
joe rogan
People would be like, get the fuck out of here.
You call yourself Big Brown?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's weird.
joe rogan
Hey, what's your name, man?
El Toronado.
Where'd that come out?
Well, I was sitting around thinking about nicknames.
Fuck out of here.
jamie vernon
It says that Dan Hardy gave him the nickname of the gorilla.
joe rogan
Oh, there you go.
That makes sense.
brendan schaub
How long ago did he give it to him?
jamie vernon
Well, this says he officially accepted it as of January 20th.
brendan schaub
Oh, fucking week, man!
joe rogan
Real recent.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck!
What was his name before then?
Well, I didn't know Dan Hart was like, oh, I just like to refer to him as the gorilla, and then three days ago he rode with it.
I thought this was his name for a while now.
joe rogan
Well, it's January.
We're into May.
So it's technically legit.
brendan schaub
Five months?
I mean, after he beat...
joe rogan
How long does a man have to keep a nickname before it's a legit nickname?
brendan schaub
There's some fucking rules here, bro.
It's unspoken rules.
Your nickname could be Sidekick.
joe rogan
I don't have a nickname, man.
brendan schaub
Come on, Joe.
Sidekick.
You don't want to be known as Sidekick.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm the Sidekick.
I'm a wingman.
unidentified
No, but, you know, it's Sidekick.
We know as a martial arts term everyone else, like the sidekick?
brendan schaub
No girl wants to fuck the sidekick.
Yeah, it's the thing like Dennis though.
If you know the real meaning to the dentist, it sounds, you know.
The dentist also isn't getting his dick sucked in the bar.
joe rogan
See, the dentist is such an obscure nickname, I think you gotta leave Josh Near alone.
That's his nickname.
That's an obscure one, you know?
But didn't they call Eve Edwards the dentist at one point in time?
Because of Aaron Reilly?
Yes, yes.
unidentified
Remember that?
brendan schaub
He destroyed it.
That was like a hook and shoot.
joe rogan
Broke his whole pallet.
brendan schaub
Aaron Reilly was one of those tough, tough journeymen.
joe rogan
Yeah, remember when Robbie Lawler made his UFC debut against Aaron Reilly and just beat the brakes off of him?
That's another super impressive performance by Rafael Dos Anjos, right?
The Robbie Lawler fight.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah!
Holy shit!
God damn!
That was an amazing fight.
joe rogan
Amazing.
He's like one of the best examples of a guy who was holding himself back by staying in a lower weight class.
brendan schaub
He did get the belt, though.
joe rogan
Yes, he did, but he couldn't take it anymore.
His body couldn't take it anymore.
He was so big.
I ran into him in between fights when he was fighting 55, and he was 200 pounds.
brendan schaub
It was just too much for him.
He was so big.
And then he started declining a little bit because the weight cut was fucked, and then he went to 70. Now he's a nightmare.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
How tall is Dos Anjos?
He's short for a 170 year, right?
joe rogan
I think he's 5'9".
brendan schaub
Shorter, yeah.
joe rogan
Let's see if you can find it, Jamie.
He might even be 5'8".
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's kind of short.
joe rogan
How tall is Kelvin?
jamie vernon
5'9"?
brendan schaub
Kelvin's probably like 5'10".
joe rogan
But he's doing 85. But Tyron's 5'9 too, right?
5'9"?
brendan schaub
No, he's gotta be 5'10", 5'11".
No way!
Woodley?
joe rogan
I think Woodley's 5'9".
I think he's 5'9".
eddie bravo
That's what's so impressive.
brendan schaub
I think Woodley's 5'11".
eddie bravo
Oh, he's 5'9", it says.
joe rogan
No one's got a bigger badonkadonk than Woodley.
When he walks in, the fucking thighs on that guy is an ass.
He generates so much force.
brendan schaub
You know, I'm 5'9 now.
I'm all proud of it.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
eddie bravo
Dude, anytime I fill out some medical shit and they say fucking hi, I say 5'9, motherfucker.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
How is the back feeling?
brendan schaub
It's hard to tell because I haven't been able to train because of my knee and my shoulder.
So when I get back, my knee's feeling better.
I'm on the bike 30 minutes a day.
unidentified
So you got your knee scoped?
brendan schaub
I decided to hold off on the shoulder surgery.
eddie bravo
Yeah?
brendan schaub
I decided, yeah.
joe rogan
What did they want to do to you?
What kind of shit you got wrong in there?
eddie bravo
The labrum.
brendan schaub
Rotator cuff.
But I finally got a second opinion yesterday, and they told me, man, unless it's hurting really bad, just hold off on it.
joe rogan
Hold off on it why?
eddie bravo
It's just...
brendan schaub
I don't want to go into surgery again, man.
Just again.
I just had knee surgery and then shoulder surgery.
And back surgery just a year ago.
I'm going to try to rehab it with shoulder rehab exercises.
I'm going to go that route first.
And if that doesn't work, then I'll have surgery.
But I decided I'm not going to have surgery on my shoulder.
joe rogan
Dude, they're doing some crazy shit down in Panama.
Panama.
eddie bravo
That's $25,000, though.
brendan schaub
It's expensive.
eddie bravo
And you know, when Mel Gibson was on your podcast...
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
I'd have to...
Is there a possibility that he was like, you know, he has some financial interest in the company or something?
I don't know.
It's hard to tell.
joe rogan
He really wanted to do it for Dr. Reardon.
He's good friends with that guy.
eddie bravo
Did he help his dad?
brendan schaub
I want to believe all that shit's real.
unidentified
I want to.
brendan schaub
But every time you hear about stem cells, there's a new way and they do it different.
And now they're taking stem cells from here instead of there.
eddie bravo
And it's like, dude, figure that shit out first.
brendan schaub
But it's new.
joe rogan
They're all good.
eddie bravo
Yeah, exactly.
brendan schaub
It's too new.
joe rogan
They're all good, but they keep getting better at it.
But talk to TJ, because TJ had some raving things to say about Panama.
He's been down there twice.
brendan schaub
After the Mel Gibson podcast?
joe rogan
Before and after.
He was there before, and then he went again.
He went again recently.
brendan schaub
Why do we have to go again?
joe rogan
The fight's starting.
brendan schaub
I'm scared.
I hope that's real, man.
joe rogan
They just tapped gloves and hugged each other.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
There's a lot of respect.
I have no idea what's going to happen.
joe rogan
This is intense.
brendan schaub
It's very rare you have no idea what's going to happen in the fight.
joe rogan
No idea.
Literally no idea.
brendan schaub
I'm kind of nervous.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Here we go.
Bam.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy's going to have to be smart.
A lot of footwork.
joe rogan
Two southpaws, too.
Another big point.
Here we go.
brendan schaub
Look at the size of Till's fucking thighs.
Boy, their styles.
Look at their styles.
Exactly.
joe rogan
Both real loose, but more Muay Thai base with Till.
He's going to throw front leg round kicks.
The thing about Wonderboy is he's all light on the toes.
brendan schaub
Yeah, his trigger is insane.
joe rogan
Leg kick right away by Till.
Very interesting.
I'm so curious about this fight.
brendan schaub
Did you see that video Till put out of him sparring, just beating the shit out of some guy?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was weird, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, very strange.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That guy didn't look that good, but he knocked him out.
joe rogan
Yeah, hurting him, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I wouldn't post that if I was him.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then he posted some of him getting hit, too, after that, because he said people were calling him a bully.
That I don't like, because that means he's reading the comments, and then he's reacting to those comments, which means people can fuck with his head.
brendan schaub
If you're a young fighter, it's going to be tough, man, to navigate through.
joe rogan
Well, those comments, you've got to leave them alone.
brendan schaub
You have to.
joe rogan
Because there's so many...
You're dealing with a...
You know, a pool of thousands and thousands of people, and who knows who they are or what their agenda is.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but also a lot of those people aren't happy for your success.
Like, they're miserable in their life, so they come at you.
joe rogan
Of course.
Especially a guy like Till who's on the rise, you know?
brendan schaub
Yeah, or anyone in the spotlight.
joe rogan
Tries that switch kick off the front leg.
brendan schaub
UFC might want to hire someone to help these younger guys with that.
joe rogan
Well, just give them a little psychological counseling on how to handle it.
brendan schaub
Get a social media expert in there.
joe rogan
He's also going to close the distance and lend that left hand over the top.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy's not there, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy's footwork is freaking ridiculous.
joe rogan
Well, this is the perfect kind of style for him, too.
An aggressive guy coming forward.
This is what he's used to.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I have to imagine that's why he took the fight just stylistically.
He's like, yeah, big guy, aggressive, let's do it.
joe rogan
Right, after the fight.
brendan schaub
Even though, remember, he just beat Masvidal.
See, he shouldn't be there.
He better get the fuck out of there.
Don't stay there.
joe rogan
Yeah, he landed that leg kick, but he was a little off balance.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he didn't recuperate.
joe rogan
Well, Darren made a shift as he was going to launch that leg kick, and he put him in a weird position where he was off balance.
I mean, there's some good adjustments going on here.
Both guys trying to find the range.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what.
Oh, shit.
God, Till's about to fire one off, man.
joe rogan
He likes that slide with the right hand forward and then looked at...
Cox the left.
Ew, good.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
One-two.
brendan schaub
Damn.
Quick one-two.
joe rogan
Wonderboy letting him know.
It's still there.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy hasn't had a finish in a while last time.
unidentified
Still there.
joe rogan
Look, Till's a little hesitant now.
Wait a little bit now.
Be careful.
brendan schaub
It's like a cobra, man.
joe rogan
Be careful.
You're talking about a dude who was like 57-0 as a kickboxer.
That's how good Wonderboy is.
brendan schaub
I agree.
As far as high-level striking, I can't remember the last time two strikers were matched up this well.
joe rogan
No, and this is five rounds, son.
brendan schaub
Oh, I'll take it.
joe rogan
Yeah, who knows what's going to happen in this fight.
This is interesting.
So high level.
brendan schaub
They're just trying to figure each other out.
joe rogan
Stepped in with the left hand.
Popped him with the left hand.
Just caught him at the end of it.
Not a lot of power, but reached him.
eddie bravo
He's letting Till know that he's down a snap.
joe rogan
He's also switching legs, switching stances.
Now it's all sideways.
brendan schaub
It's hard to find a training partner who's going to emulate Wonderboy, man.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
You don't really get a real look at it until you're...
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
He's picking his shots beautifully so far.
I think he's trying to frustrate Till, so Till jumps in and makes a mistake.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Looked for it.
I don't think that landed, though, huh?
brendan schaub
No.
Looked cool, though.
And I was on board.
I yelled out.
You gotta get off the cage here.
You gotta get out.
Yeah, I think for one of the ways, these first two rounds, he's trying to frustrate Till.
joe rogan
What time is it in England right now?
brendan schaub
They're 7 hours ahead.
8. Are they 8?
joe rogan
8. So it's fucking...
brendan schaub
8 o'clock.
joe rogan
It's really late.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're saying 8 o'clock.
8.30 at night.
unidentified
See, I think it's 7.30.
brendan schaub
It's 8 hours.
Is it?
Trust me.
Yeah, you probably know.
joe rogan
So it's 9.30 p.m.
right now.
brendan schaub
8.30, bro.
8.30.
joe rogan
What time is it now?
It's 12.30.
I looked at my watch real quick.
brendan schaub
Unless there's a couple different time zones in the UK. I thought it was just one.
jamie vernon
They might not have daylight savings time or something.
joe rogan
Nobody should have that.
Daylight savings time is stupid.
brendan schaub
It's bullshit, man.
Arizona does it right.
joe rogan
They do.
They're like, fuck you.
brendan schaub
Why do we fuck with it?
And that hour of sleep we lose?
God, go fuck yourself.
It's ridiculous.
So should we get a two-year-old?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
But how about when you gain that hour?
Oh, it's nice when you gain it for like two days.
brendan schaub
Not worth it, bro.
joe rogan
It's not worth it.
brendan schaub
Fuck my life, bro.
joe rogan
In the morning, it's dark.
In the afternoon, it's not.
eddie bravo
Your boy's two?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He's two now?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Mine's six.
God dang.
Damn.
He's all into Harry Potter and shit now.
Damn.
We go to Universal Studios.
unidentified
How awesome is that ride?
eddie bravo
If you haven't been to Universal Studios...
brendan schaub
You need to go.
Universal Studios fucking rules now.
eddie bravo
The 3D simulations?
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
eddie bravo
High level.
That Harry Potter ride?
joe rogan
It's amazing.
eddie bravo
Holy fuck!
brendan schaub
Dude, the new Guardians of the Galaxy at Disney is pretty sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
brendan schaub
I was straight up scared on that ride.
I was scared.
eddie bravo
And then the Transformer ride is amazing.
The Simpsons ride is amazing.
brendan schaub
Simpsons land is sick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Simpsons ride is one of my favorite rides ever.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what's the best ride ever, all time, hands down?
Flights of Passage Avatar ride in Disney World in Orlando.
eddie bravo
Is it like a simulation?
joe rogan
It's incredible, dude.
It's incredible.
It's like virtual reality.
You go in, you sit on this bike, you're riding a dragon.
You saw Avatar, right?
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Riding one of those things through the fucking jungle.
What?
brendan schaub
God damn, that sounds sick.
joe rogan
It is every...
Think of like...
Have you ever done that...
There's the thing at Disneyland called Soaring Over the World.
It's amazing.
Giant screen and you're flying like over India and over Everest.
It's amazing.
brendan schaub
Sure that's not Disney World that they've got?
joe rogan
No, I just did it.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he said Disney World.
brendan schaub
He just said, yeah, Disney World.
joe rogan
No, Disneyland has soaring over the world.
brendan schaub
Oh.
joe rogan
But, here we go, round two.
Fuck Disney World.
unidentified
Continue the round, I remember.
eddie bravo
Oh!
brendan schaub
Till getting a little more aggressive.
joe rogan
Till tagged him with that left hand.
brendan schaub
And that castle, that Harry Potter castle that they build?
Like, what the fuck?
It's amazing.
joe rogan
No, it's incredible.
Till's getting way more amped up.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
It's like one mistake, man.
joe rogan
I know, Wonderboy is such a good counterfighter.
brendan schaub
Oh, he lives right, doesn't he?
Oh, gotta get off the fucking fence, Wonderboy.
That's all Till wants.
So that first round, you gotta give it to Wonderboy, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, super close, but yeah.
Yeah, give it to Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you give it to Wonderboy.
joe rogan
Not a whole lot going on.
brendan schaub
I mean, he landed like maybe two shots.
eddie bravo
One of the body, then that one-two.
brendan schaub
Remember this, though.
They're in Liverpool.
He's the hometown kid, and the judges look at octagon control.
So it's not necessarily you could give it to Wonderboy.
But Darren Till, I don't think, landed anything.
But he's going forward.
And the judges are morons.
So like, oh, going forward, that works.
joe rogan
Oh, give it to Till.
He did a good job, didn't he?
They always ask a question after they say something.
brendan schaub
Didn't he?
joe rogan
He's amazing, isn't he?
Fantastic right hand, wasn't it?
brendan schaub
This fight's about to get loose in the third round, I feel like.
joe rogan
Well, it's getting loose already.
brendan schaub
A little bit.
joe rogan
It's just such a dangerous chess game.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
And Wonderboy hands motherfucking down, son.
brendan schaub
He's always like that.
joe rogan
Always like that.
That's that karate style, son.
Ooh, look for it.
Till slid.
Slid to the right.
brendan schaub
Till's elbows are no joke either.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
If he gets in close there.
joe rogan
The one that he landed on Cowboy was ruthless.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
Who else has he beaten?
That's about it, sir.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm really...
brendan schaub
There's not anybody else.
He hasn't really knocked you off your socks before that Cowboy fight.
He's had some decisions.
They had an early knockout.
joe rogan
He stopped somebody, too?
brendan schaub
No, early on he had one stoppage.
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Wonderboy with the left hand over the top.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy fighting very smart, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, this is like, again, stylistically, such a great fight.
Because this is the style that Wonderboy really does like.
He likes a guy that's...
Uber-aggressive.
And in terms of high-level technique, both these guys are really good.
brendan schaub
Really, really good.
joe rogan
Oh, Till keeps throwing that front leg sidekick to the front leg.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Nope, he missed that.
joe rogan
A little short with that.
He doesn't like it.
brendan schaub
That's like Hickson.
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't like it.
brendan schaub
No.
Wonderboy's going to have to adapt to that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They both switch it up, don't they?
joe rogan
Yep.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
Woo!
joe rogan
Just missed that head kick, son.
But a miss by an inch is as good as a mile.
Till's got great distance control.
brendan schaub
They both do, don't they?
joe rogan
They both do.
They both do, don't they?
brendan schaub
Don't they?
joe rogan
Don't they?
brendan schaub
That's Irish, isn't it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
My accents suck.
We need Hanato in here.
Do some scouse for us.
Amazing kid.
brendan schaub
Liverpool's definitely a different accent, too.
It's a thick, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Sunderland, Liverpool.
Thick alley.
Liverpool, I think, is Ozzy Osbourne.
Oh, rushing in, man.
joe rogan
Wonder Boy loves to do that, like, switch stance.
That blitz.
Yeah.
But it's so hard to figure out what the fuck he's going to do because he switches stances while he does it sometimes.
brendan schaub
And then we'll throw a kick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's about to rush in again.
Till's just trying to figure out and pin him down, but, man, it's not there.
This is one of the boys' game plan, man.
Give him to commit and make a mistake.
Then he's just going to capitalize.
joe rogan
But Till's doing a good job of not giving him much space where the cage is.
This is not happening in the center of the cage as much as it's happening.
Ooh!
Wonderboy tried that switch.
brendan schaub
What if Till's going to feel any pressure to get a finish?
joe rogan
Because Till is absolutely controlling the center of the cage.
Wonderboy does not have a lot.
Well, now they're in the center.
brendan schaub
And you know that wins rounds for these judges.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Because they don't understand fighting.
That place is packed, dude, man.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure.
They say, you know, he's a superstar in Liverpool.
unidentified
Yeah, superstar.
brendan schaub
It'd be the face of England, man.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
If he had a big knockout here, it'd be the face.
Because Bisping obviously is, but he's retired.
joe rogan
Yeah, who else is coming up in England?
brendan schaub
We got Michael Venom Page, right?
joe rogan
Sure, yeah.
brendan schaub
But he's not on this level.
joe rogan
Well, why don't they give him high-level fights?
brendan schaub
He just had fought Rickles.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Do you see what he did to him?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
He fucked him up.
joey diaz
I heard.
brendan schaub
He exploded his face and choked him out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And that was like his first, like, they weren't feeding him, you know?
Like, that was a tough fight.
Mike VanPage Daily next, they say.
And Roy McDonald, Mousasi.
joe rogan
Those are two very good fights.
Are you kidding me?
I really like Page Daily because they don't like each other.
brendan schaub
They fucking hate each other.
joe rogan
I like that fight a lot.
brendan schaub
Shout out to all the 10th Planet schools in the UK. We got like eight now.
That's crazy.
London, Birmingham, Bramberry, Redditch, Darlington.
Shit, am I missing one?
Oh, Glasgow.
That's Scotland.
joe rogan
Squirtland.
How many you got worldwide?
brendan schaub
About a hundred.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Amazing.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
And it keeps growing, man.
It keeps growing.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
He hit him with that sidekick in the knee.
You see Wonderboy's leg buckle?
See that in the replay?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He didn't like that.
brendan schaub
He hit him with three straight.
joe rogan
Yeah, one of them really made his knee buckle, man.
Those things fucking suck.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Michael Venom Page.
unidentified
Boosh!
joe rogan
Wheel kicked him.
Oh shit.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
He's so fast.
That's again, karate.
He comes from that point fighting background.
You know, there's a great karate match that I watched.
I mean, I don't know how many times they fought, but they fought point fighting.
Way back in the day, Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page fought each other in point fighting.
Now Raymond Daniels is the glory champion and Michael Venom Page is coming up in Bellator.
Very interesting.
Or he's a Bellator champion now, Raymond Daniels, right?
He left glory.
unidentified
Here we go.
joe rogan
Darren Till super aggressive here now.
I wonder if Wonderboy's knee is okay.
brendan schaub
He still hasn't landed anything, though, except for those sidekicks to the knee.
joe rogan
Yeah, he hasn't landed anything to the head.
Wonderboy's knee seems fine.
He's moving fine.
brendan schaub
Two rounds so far, no shot to the head.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Ooh, kick to the body.
Well, the whole thing with Wonder Boy is just...
You make a mistake and he counters you.
And so far, Till hasn't really made any mistakes, but Wonderboy's found a few openings, but there's never been like one big bum rush where he left a gap and Wonderboy could drop a ball on him.
brendan schaub
Did I miss anything?
joe rogan
Nope, nothing.
But they did show the replay, the knee buckling of Wonderboy.
It looked pretty nasty.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah?
From what?
joe rogan
From that sidekick.
brendan schaub
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
From a front leg sidekick to the knee.
But he's moving fine.
It doesn't seem like he's limping at all.
And he threw some kicks with that left leg.
brendan schaub
It would be nice.
It's hard to tell.
It would be nice if Wonderboy was a little more aggressive though.
It would be nice.
He'd get knocked out.
joe rogan
He'd get knocked out.
brendan schaub
You think so?
Same thing with the Woodley fight.
Everyone's like, oh, be more aggressive.
I can't get fucking starched by Woodley.
That isn't necessarily...
He's a counter fighter.
He's a counter fighter.
Yeah, but still, you gotta...
joe rogan
Well, this is his style, man.
This is his style.
You know, his style is move around.
But the thing is, Till is so high level as well that it's hard for this style to even find its home, you know?
brendan schaub
You have an aggressor versus counter-striker.
This is, I don't know what people expect.
It's like early Machida.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How about that Machida front kick to Vitor's face?
brendan schaub
How dare you, Machida?
How fucking dare you?
The man signed off fight and went, you know what?
Enjoy the retirement.
He goes!
joe rogan
Yeah, crazy, right?
brendan schaub
That was one of the worst knockouts ever.
And then just walks off, bends down, starts praying.
joe rogan
Did you see the photo of the foot on the face?
Yes.
Textbook front kick.
brendan schaub
Balls of the feet.
You think Vitor just juices with every Brazilian drug ever?
joe rogan
My heart hopes so.
brendan schaub
Me too.
I pray for that at night.
joe rogan
I pray for...
brendan schaub
I want a golden, like, master's division.
joe rogan
Yeah, just go off.
I want to see veins in his teeth again.
brendan schaub
It's crazy that he's still fighting.
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
I know.
brendan schaub
Veins in his gums.
Dude, he was around in the early days.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
brendan schaub
And he's the only guy from the early days still fighting.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Underboy caught him with that right hand.
brendan schaub
I mean, you could say the same thing for Dan Henderson, but he's officially retired.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's retired.
But Wonderboy...
I mean, Vitor was around UFC 12...
brendan schaub
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Dan Henderson was around in 98, so it wasn't much longer afterwards.
Crazy, really.
brendan schaub
They fought, right?
Dan Henderson and Vitor?
joe rogan
A couple times.
Yeah, Vitor KO'd him.
brendan schaub
Both times?
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Oh!
joe rogan
Uh-oh!
brendan schaub
See, Till's starting to get anxious here.
This one's going to get in trouble, man.
When Wonderboy gets big, it's usually his legs, man.
I mean, his hands are dangerous, but his power is in those fucking legs.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
He's thrown that head kick a few times.
brendan schaub
That was a sick slip by Till.
Who does Till train with?
I don't know much about his team.
joe rogan
Come on.
In Liverpool.
Oh, his coach is Colin.
I forget his last name.
brendan schaub
Crazy, Wonderboy's dad cranes him, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It'd be a tough dynamic.
unidentified
Ooh!
brendan schaub
Damn, that's not really in.
joe rogan
No, just touched him.
But he did touch him at the very end with that round kick to the face.
He might be fine in an opening for that one-two blitz.
Oh, Till just tagged him with that jab.
brendan schaub
I have a hard time believing these judges don't have at 3-0.
joe rogan
Right, right.
brendan schaub
In Liverpool, Octagon Control.
I'm not saying it's right.
joe rogan
Well, it depends on who the judges are, too, right?
Are they American judges or the English judges?
brendan schaub
They're all morons, though, aren't they?
All around the world.
joe rogan
Unfortunately.
I love the fact that you can say that.
You don't work for anybody.
brendan schaub
I know.
Isn't it cool and you can't?
I have no repercussions.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Till got poked in the eye.
brendan schaub
alright get the fuck out of here Mark Goddard's more worried about an eye poked than anybody that Boy, that doctor got in that room quick.
joe rogan
That doctor just jumped in.
brendan schaub
God, where'd he come from?
And now he's out.
He's trying to get a little too much TV time.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, definitely didn't mean to.
unidentified
Oh, they're booing him?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's saying no, don't boo him.
Oh, shit.
Sometimes I poke to really rev a dude up.
Or a dick kick.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Damn.
Till's getting wild here.
brendan schaub
No, don't get too comfortable.
Okay, there you go.
joe rogan
Left hand over the top.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
Oh, we got ourselves a cockfight.
joe rogan
Oh, he's getting crazy here.
brendan schaub
Dude.
That eye poke, really.
I wish he would have poked that in the first round.
joe rogan
This is the end of the round here.
brendan schaub
Oh, now it's trying to get loose.
Now it's about to get fun.
joe rogan
Okay, that was three.
So we got two more to go.
Thank God this is a five-rounder, right?
brendan schaub
If that was three rounds, I'd be pissed.
joe rogan
You'd feel so cheated.
brendan schaub
I'd talk so much shit on that fight if it's just three rounds and it ended there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Man.
That dude has a prominent forehead cheekbone situation going on.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I think Genghis Khan got a little bit of that in him, didn't he?
joe rogan
A little bit of...
He's definitely got some fucking ancient man in him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does.
I don't look like him.
He definitely...
joe rogan
Boom, that right hand.
brendan schaub
That was nice.
joe rogan
I counted him here.
brendan schaub
Boom, boom!
Oh, that got him.
joe rogan
He definitely tagged him.
brendan schaub
He slid with it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he went with it, but it caught him at the end of it for sure.
brendan schaub
Look, one boy doesn't look tired.
joe rogan
This is his style, you know, he's so efficient at doing that.
brendan schaub
Oh, both these guys could do this for 10 rounds.
joe rogan
Yeah, round four, here we go.
God, this is a fight that is a great argument for the five-round fight for high-level fights.
brendan schaub
Oh, 100%.
joe rogan
I mean, we would feel so bad if we were leaving here and that was it.
Like, who won?
Who cares?
What even happened?
Like, what are the stats on punches and kicks landed?
brendan schaub
Yeah, unless you're super into MMA, you'd be so disappointed.
joe rogan
Wonderboy with a hard jab right there, kid.
brendan schaub
Dang, Teal better watch his P's and Q's, though.
You're too hard, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But juice is worth the squeeze if you can get a knockdown.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Damn.
brendan schaub
This is getting hot Yeah, cuz yeah, Darren Till's never been five rounds has he?
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
brendan schaub
He hasn't, especially in the UFC. Well, first time.
Because his main event against Cowboy, obviously he starts Cowboy, so he hasn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's his first main event, right?
And what about outside of the UFC? How many fights in Brazil?
brendan schaub
He had, what, 17?
Or 14, I think.
joe rogan
Crazy, he speaks perfect Portuguese.
brendan schaub
Oh, does he?
unidentified
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
Who?
Darren Till.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, this kid's remarkable.
joe rogan
When he fought in Brazil, he spoke Portuguese to the crowd.
brendan schaub
He lived there for like 10 years, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I watched one of his older fights where he stopped this guy, and he spoke Portuguese to the crowd after the fight.
brendan schaub
Fucked the guy up?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
The first 10 fights were there.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he just went to live down there.
They had to get out of Liverpool because I guess there was a little tox up for him.
joe rogan
Well, he got stabbed.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you can see the stab mark.
joe rogan
Where is it?
brendan schaub
It's lower, like, on his right side.
He got stabbed in Brazil?
Right above his hip.
joe rogan
In England, he got stabbed.
brendan schaub
In Liverpool, in his hometown.
And his coach told him, hey, you gotta get out of here, man.
They need to bend knives in the UK. Enough's enough.
How many more people gotta get stabbed?
joe rogan
Do you know the London mayor actually said that?
If you get caught with a knife, you'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
What about if I got to open boxes?
jamie vernon
The princess's brother-in-law, her brother, got caught with one when he went over there for the royal wedding last week.
brendan schaub
Oh, that?
joe rogan
He got caught with a knife?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he said he took one because Trump said that you should take one with him.
He was in a bar.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's crazy.
Is he crazy?
jamie vernon
Her brother's crazy?
brendan schaub
She's a dime piece, man.
I'm assuming you two would have nothing.
joe rogan
I don't give a fuck about that.
I'm watching this fight here, son.
Wonderboy with the step-in jab.
Not a lot of action in this fight.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Wonderboy looking for that left hand over the top!
brendan schaub
Did it land?
joe rogan
Nope.
Just kind of grazed him.
brendan schaub
It's kind of hard to tell.
His back was to us.
It's going to be a tough fucking fight to judge, man.
joe rogan
Till's having a hard time hitting him.
brendan schaub
That's for damn sure.
joe rogan
Beautiful duck under there.
Look at this.
Till with the clinch.
brendan schaub
What if he takes him down?
Do we just stop the fight?
joe rogan
Interesting that Till's the one holding onto him here.
brendan schaub
Oh, elbow to the top.
Trying to get that clinch.
His Muay Thai's nasty.
unidentified
Good elbow on the break there.
brendan schaub
If you're one of them, that's exactly what he wanted.
That leg's kind of fucked up, that lead leg, right leg.
joe rogan
Yep, it does look a little bruised.
Ooh, good kick to the body.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
You guys watch that show, Cobra Kai?
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen it.
brendan schaub
I've heard great things.
It's supposed to be good.
Yeah, no, it's great.
joe rogan
That's a crazy welt on Wonderboy's leg.
I really haven't noticed him getting hit that much.
brendan schaub
Me neither.
It's on both legs, too.
Obviously, the right leg's worse with that.
Left leg's pretty tender, Roni, too.
joe rogan
The right leg looks really fucked up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it does.
I don't really remember him kicking him that hard.
joe rogan
It must have been when he was standing southpaw.
Sideways, you know?
brendan schaub
And now he hasn't gone back then, has he?
Really?
joe rogan
Not much.
brendan schaub
Not this round.
joe rogan
Doesn't like it.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
I mean, his footwork's just stupid, so Darren Till can't really get a read on him.
But again, the judges are giving that to Till.
joe rogan
Yeah, nothing big has happened where you go, oh, that guy definitely is in control of the fight.
brendan schaub
If someone just knocks someone down, you've got the fight.
The judges are like, oh, he got it.
Good right hand of the body So such a high-level chess game here, I know All right, which I did get on the edge of my seat, but if you're just a regular fan, come on, man.
I tell you what, who's going to get more shit is Wonderboy because of his Woodley fights, which is obviously not his fault.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this is like...
brendan schaub
No, it's not his fault.
I'm just saying the public's going to give him shit.
unidentified
I guess.
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's what it is.
So this is the...
I mean, you want to beat him.
You've got to come after him.
When you come after him, you run into the wood chipper.
brendan schaub
But the thing is, he's not winning when he does this...
joe rogan
But he didn't win against Woodley when he did this, for sure.
brendan schaub
But he's won previously.
Yeah, he's obviously got number one for a reason.
He's number one in the world.
joe rogan
Something happened there.
unidentified
God, that back leg is fucked up, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
A little too friendly, boys.
joe rogan
A little too friendly.
Yeah, he's wobbling a little on the back to his corner.
That leg is fucked up, man.
brendan schaub
Maybe they just get loose in this fifth round.
They're saving it for the fifth round, Eddie.
joe rogan
I hope so.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
Because again, if it stopped right here, I'd be bummed out.
I'd be like, okay.
brendan schaub
This fight's been pretty lackluster.
They're going to give it to Till.
Oh, 100%.
You think so?
Every round they give to him.
And then one judge is like, we don't want to make it too obvious, and then give one to Wonderboy.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I'd say he's up three to one.
joe rogan
Till?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
Because of the judges.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
But not because of what you think, right?
brendan schaub
Even then, it'd be tough.
You could maybe go two to two, but I'd say Till's winning this fight.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
I think Wonderboy's winning.
brendan schaub
Can I get some goddamn Compustrike numbers, Fox?
joe rogan
I know.
brendan schaub
No wonder they left your ass.
Just kidding.
Can I get something?
joe rogan
How's your show going on Showtime?
Enjoying it?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's been good, man.
It's been fun.
joe rogan
Nice.
brendan schaub
It's been a lot of fun.
joe rogan
Did you know that guy that just died?
brendan schaub
From the comedy division?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I did not.
Did you?
joe rogan
No.
Everybody seems to think he's a...
I might have met him, but everybody seems to think he's a really good guy.
brendan schaub
That sucks, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
55, man.
brendan schaub
I know.
Such a shame.
joe rogan
Crazy.
Burt loved the guy.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Burt had something real nice to say about him.
So did Dice.
brendan schaub
That's a bummer, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Till's super aggressive here coming out from the fifth.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm sure he wants to get the finish.
Probably feels a little bit of pressure.
joe rogan
And he should.
Okay, they're saying Darren Till's corner is very urgent.
brendan schaub
Like he's losing the fight?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think he's losing.
brendan schaub
You do?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I think if I would count up all the different strikes, I think...
brendan schaub
Strikes that landed?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think...
jamie vernon
Close according to the UFC thing.
joe rogan
Close in terms of strikes landed?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it says 48 to 42. Goddamn!
brendan schaub
That's tough to judge.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's impossible to judge.
brendan schaub
And then you have one aggressor, right?
In Liverpool.
Isn't that crazy?
joe rogan
Five rounds, 48 strikes landed.
That is just bananas.
brendan schaub
A lot of defense going on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
A lot of missing as well.
joe rogan
A lot of movement.
brendan schaub
Bush Townsend, you'd think would make for a great roll.
joe rogan
Ooh, there's a good right hand by Till.
brendan schaub
A little jab to the grill face.
joe rogan
Sidekick.
brendan schaub
No one's really going balls to the wall, are they?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
Darren Till would go balls to the walls, but Wonderboy keeps moving.
joe rogan
It's hard.
brendan schaub
The whole fucking righty keeps moving.
You don't get blasted in the face.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard.
brendan schaub
Come on, man.
Just sit there for us.
joe rogan
What was that about?
He threw a shitty wheel kick and then shook his head and then they touched gloves.
It's fucking weird.
Oh!
Switched up on him.
brendan schaub
Those two are a little too friendly for my liking.
joe rogan
He's looking to set up his wheel kick with his left leg.
brendan schaub
Someone throw something.
joe rogan
Anything.
brendan schaub
The crowd's like, yeah.
You have them there, Till.
joe rogan
But he doesn't.
Ooh, there he landed a left hand.
Why are they touching?
brendan schaub
Why touch dab?
Because he got out of the goddamn corner?
joe rogan
What is that about?
brendan schaub
Gorillas don't act like that.
joe rogan
I don't understand this.
They just touch gloves again.
Too much respect.
brendan schaub
I know.
There's not enough killer instinct in this.
joe rogan
He's looking for that low fake and then go with the high round kick off the front leg.
He does that sometimes, but he didn't do it.
brendan schaub
I'd like to know how many miles they've ran this goddamn fight.
joe rogan
You kind of give it to them for sticking to their foot.
No one's getting out of composure here.
brendan schaub
Two pros pros.
No, I get the style.
You don't want to risk it.
But if you're not balls deep into fighting, you're not happy with this fight.
I'm not thrilled with it, but I get it.
joe rogan
This is one of the most uneventful big events.
Ooh, good jabs by Till.
Oh!
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Big shot by Till!
brendan schaub
Guillotine.
Oh, I thought he had it then.
Oh, shit.
That's enough to win the fight.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
That's all you needed.
Don't get dropped here.
joe rogan
A little bit of time to go.
A little bit of time to go.
brendan schaub
Damn, how hard is that motherfucker hit?
It didn't look like it lay behind the air.
joe rogan
We'd have to look at it in the replay, but look how you hurt him.
brendan schaub
That Wonderboy's got to move his ass now.
He lost the fight.
Well, Wonderboy's in trouble now.
He's flat-footed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy could be in a little bit trouble.
almost what tail lifts were damn Wonder Boy would have won two Until just out of range for it to hurt.
joe rogan
This got interesting, that's for sure.
brendan schaub
Listen to the crowd, man.
Everyone's on their feet now.
joe rogan
But this is like Wonderboy when he fought Tyron Woodley too, right?
Got tagged, got hurt.
brendan schaub
And then people rush in, get dealt with.
joe rogan
Look at this!
Wonderboy would have fucking takedown.
brendan schaub
You know shit ain't exciting when someone's shooting for a takedown out of these two.
joe rogan
Oh!
Straight left.
Wonderboy's still dangerous.
It's crazy, right?
brendan schaub
40 seconds left, boys.
Maybe Till just thinks he has them in the bag.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I just think he doesn't want to get tag coming in.
He's a little tired, too.
Mouths open.
unidentified
It hasn't been a high pace this year.
brendan schaub
There's been a lot of footwork, though, so you might be a little...
joe rogan
Well, you've got to remember, Till did have a real hard time cutting that weight.
brendan schaub
Oh, and he's been going through a lot.
You're right.
They need some get-downs in this.
unidentified
You ain't lying to me.
joe rogan
No stand-ups, just get-downs.
brendan schaub
Get down.
Yeah, there's no way to give Wonderboy the fight after that.
joe rogan
No.
He'll be hard-pressed.
brendan schaub
Especially in Liverpool, it's over.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
brendan schaub
Man, Wonderboy's in a tough spot now.
joe rogan
I don't know why he's that happy about that.
That was, um...
I mean, he landed a good shot.
brendan schaub
He was trying.
It wasn't like he wasn't trying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He was moving forward the whole time.
So where would you rank Till after that lackluster performance?
Because Wonderboy's number one.
You don't rank him number one, obviously.
I think you put him in the top.
joe rogan
Wonderboy is just a nightmare for everybody.
He's a nightmare for everybody.
It's tough to look good against him.
brendan schaub
A win over him is a win.
You know, he beat him.
That's a big win.
So you put him at number one?
joe rogan
Well, he didn't even make the weight.
So that's where it gets tricky.
brendan schaub
You don't know who gives a fuck about that.
joe rogan
Right, but you're saying that they fought...
Here's that front leg sidekick that wobbled his knee.
Good job, Metro PCS, a block in division.
brendan schaub
God damn it, Metro PCS. Why would they do that?
joe rogan
Why would they have that right where you need to see?
brendan schaub
I'll tell you right now.
If you're my friend of Metro PCS, we are not friends anymore.
Where's the knockdown?
Where's the knockdown?
joe rogan
Do you get angry just because of that?
brendan schaub
Well, no, I get angry because the cricket of wireless cell phones now.
Cricket?
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
That was a hard fucking left hand.
brendan schaub
Let me see this.
Boom!
Right behind the air.
joe rogan
That was legit.
brendan schaub
He clobbered him right there.
Yeah, that was legit.
Right behind the air, huh?
joe rogan
That was as legit as it gets.
That was the legit shot of the fight.
Like, one legit shot.
That's why, like, if you have 49 other strikes that land, do they even count?
I mean, that's a real strike that landed.
brendan schaub
Now, do you ever use the word clobber when you're calling fights?
I don't call fights, but clobber's not in my dictionary.
No?
unidentified
Clobber!
brendan schaub
It's too old school?
Clobbering.
Clobberdom.
Clobbering.
Who says, oh, uh, the thing says that, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, the thing from Fantastic Four.
Clobbering time.
brendan schaub
Clobbering time.
The Orange guy.
You need to bring that back.
joe rogan
So what do we think here?
What do you think?
brendan schaub
Till 100%.
4-1.
Till close decision.
I think Till split.
Someone's going to give it to Wonderboy.
But Till's going to win.
joe rogan
Some rebel?
brendan schaub
Some rebel who wants to die in Liverpool.
joe rogan
I want to go out on my shield.
brendan schaub
Will they set that place on fire if they do give to Wonderboy?
Liverpool goes hard in the paint.
You know there's some hooligans there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going to be a tough exit strategy.
brendan schaub
No way Wonderboy wins that.
Is that Adele?
Is that Adele Bird or the fucker name?
Is she in there?
joe rogan
Adelaide Bird?
brendan schaub
Adelaide Bird.
joe rogan
They don't fly her out there.
brendan schaub
You never know.
She's everywhere, fucker.
joe rogan
Does she go everywhere?
brendan schaub
Yeah, she gives lessons on judging and stuff.
You know that?
You don't think they put her in there for a reason?
You know, because she don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
So you think they do it on purpose?
brendan schaub
I think they want people to get used to fucked up decisions.
Well, we're used to it.
Yeah, and it's working.
It's working.
Yeah, I think they want that.
Because if they ever needed to pull something out, like something was like, dude, this motherfucker has to win.
You know, people are like, oh, it is Vegas!
unidentified
It's Vegas!
See, I don't...
brendan schaub
Boxing's corrupt as shit, but with MMA, I just think they don't know what they're looking at.
They don't understand it.
eddie bravo
They're not asked, correct?
brendan schaub
They just don't know.
eddie bravo
Either way, it serves the same purpose.
joe rogan
Oh, here we go.
Here we go.
Jamie, can you give us some volume?
brendan schaub
It's a split.
unidentified
It's a split.
brendan schaub
Bruce Buffer would be a killer.
unidentified
Strip club DJ. Unanimous.
brendan schaub
Unanimous.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Wow.
He didn't even need that knockdown.
brendan schaub
That's a big fight for him.
What were some of those scores?
I couldn't hear it.
49, 47, 48, 47. I gotta take a piss.
49, 46, 49, 46, 48, 47. Well, that's a big victory for him, that's for sure.
unidentified
You asked for this fight.
You wanted Wonderboy.
joe rogan
You wanted Wonderboy.
unidentified
These people are here for you.
What does it feel like to get that victory on your wick collar?
joe rogan
I think he said something bad.
I think he used some potty language there.
What do you think?
unidentified
I mean...
I'm a classic fighter.
joe rogan
They have such a specific way of talking.
brendan schaub
I feel like it's so much cooler when they talk like this as a fighter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
It's pretty cool.
13. God, him and Conor sound similar, right? - Not really.
brendan schaub
Really?
I'd have to hear him.
joe rogan
What is he saying?
What are they saying?
Boy, fucking censorship.
You know, let me hear the party language.
brendan schaub
Yo, what's next?
He said everyone, anyone, I don't care.
Anyone!
unidentified
No one!
You have people asking me?
You might deserve a tire shot after this.
joe rogan
Goddamn, with the censorship.
ESPN, please let these guys swear.
Please.
brendan schaub
Come on.
joe rogan
They're not going to let it.
brendan schaub
No way.
joe rogan
It's going to be worse.
brendan schaub
Disney owns ESPN. Good call.
Which is a good thing.
joe rogan
They might not even let me do commentary over there.
brendan schaub
Have you guys seen Solo?
I'll just talk to you about that.
You out.
eddie bravo
Disney took over Star Wars, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Have you seen Solo?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Dude, I lasted literally six minutes and I walked out.
unidentified
Is that bad?
What?
Yes.
brendan schaub
No, six minutes?
Give it a shot, bro.
eddie bravo
The reason why I walked out, I realized what it is about Star Wars.
brendan schaub
In the chase scenes, they use the classic Star Wars music.
That music is just so Indiana Jones, campy, corny.
eddie bravo
I couldn't stand it, man.
I walked the fuck out.
And I was ready, dude.
brendan schaub
I had fucking Candace.
I was ready.
eddie bravo
I had one of those chicken baguettes with the barbecue watermelon sauce.
Barbecue watermelon sauce on chicken.
joe rogan
And you still walked?
eddie bravo
As soon as I was done.
brendan schaub
I was done with that before the movie even started, the chicken watermelon barbecue.
joe rogan
What'd you go with?
eddie bravo
By myself.
joe rogan
You went to see it by yourself?
That's an interesting move.
eddie bravo
I went by myself.
joe rogan
Where were you?
eddie bravo
At the Arclight in Sherman Oaks.
brendan schaub
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You showed up by yourself.
eddie bravo
How bored were you?
brendan schaub
My wife took my son to some birthday party thing, and they were going to be gone for a couple hours, and I just said, you know what?
I like the idea of going to movies.
eddie bravo
It's just that they all suck.
brendan schaub
But I like going, I like buying some candy.
Buy your solo, though.
It doesn't matter.
I go to movies by myself all the time.
eddie bravo
Do you really?
I did.
brendan schaub
Not so much since I had a kid, but back in the day, I would go all the time by myself.
joe rogan
I think I've only been maybe three times, not even in my life, by myself.
eddie bravo
Only because I want to be able to leave.
If I go with someone else and I got to fucking stay, because nobody likes leaving movies.
brendan schaub
No, most people don't like leaving.
So I got to fucking sit there for the whole stupid movie.
eddie bravo
I like the freedom to leave.
As soon as I don't give a shit about the movie, I'm out.
brendan schaub
I heard Deadpool 2 is amazing.
eddie bravo
That was good.
I stayed for that.
I saw that by myself, too.
brendan schaub
That was good.
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Deadpool 2 is great.
brendan schaub
That's an issue move by yourself, brother.
Really?
I appreciate that.
Yeah, I've never...
I just need the freedom to leave.
That's really what that's about.
Dude, that welterweight division is pure fire right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, no kidding, right?
brendan schaub
Pure fucking fire.
I think out of all the young guys, out of Colby Covington, Usman, and then Darren Till.
Till, if I had to bet on one of them, being like the world champion, beat Till.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
Yeah, out of all those three guys.
joe rogan
He's a dangerous motherfucker, that's for sure.
If you trade him with that guy, I mean, the thing that Wonderboy did that was so interesting is he's just never there.
He's just never there.
And it made it a hard fight for Till to keep his composure and fight five hard rounds.
And constantly be chasing him, and Wonderboy's never there.
And Wonderboy tagged him a couple times, but Till was the one that landed the big haymaker.
brendan schaub
But you also see Till under control, experienced, still stuck to his technique.
He's going to be tough to beat, man.
Now, I'd like to see him against a guy who has high-level wrestling, like Kobe Kempton or Woodley, or even Usman, super high-level wrestling.
I'd like to see that, where it's not an ideal matchup for him.
See how he performs.
Because Cowboy and Wonderboy are strikers, so it's wheelhouse.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Let me see an RDA, an Usman, or a Colby Compton.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would like to see him versus Colby.
I think Colby's a really interesting fight.
That's a good question.
brendan schaub
Purple.
He's a purple?
I'm pretty sure he's a purple.
He's been doing it for a while.
But, see, I don't think you do Colby versus Dan.
I don't think you kill off the Young Lions yet.
I think you let the Young Lions go after the Robbie Lawlers, the Cowboys, the RDAs, the Woodleys.
joe rogan
But do you think they do it that way?
Do they think that way?
Or do they just try to make the best fights they can make?
brendan schaub
The UFC? Yeah.
How's the UFC saying?
I think it's just whatever the fuck works.
Because this fight doesn't make too much sense for Wonderboy.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
But it's a fun fight for us to watch.
joe rogan
Yeah, very fun fight to watch.
brendan schaub
Man, this is a clubbing puncher.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
A lot of power.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got power.
He's a big fella.
I mean, if they wanted him to have to weigh 188, they know that he's probably well, well north of that.
brendan schaub
Probably coming in well north of 200. See, but missing the weight, we don't make a big enough deal of it.
I don't really care either, but it is a problem, man.
It's a huge problem.
It's such an advantage.
But like with Mackenzie Dern, after she missed it, I didn't care.
I'm like, all right, do your thing, girl.
joe rogan
But she missed it by seven fucking pounds, man.
That's so big.
That means it doesn't drain her.
I know.
So when she goes to fight.
brendan schaub
It's a huge advantage.
joe rogan
Yeah, she goes to fight.
She's not drained out.
brendan schaub
Dude, that Mackenzie Dern fight, holy shit.
eddie bravo
That was like some UFC 2 type shit.
She took that chick down, mounted her, pounded her, took her back.
No, she knocked her out.
brendan schaub
It was like a hoist versus that Dutch kickboxer with the gi pants.
Remember that guy?
Yeah, but her striking was the impressive thing.
She landed a huge overhand.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
She does that in all the fights.
She's not afraid to throw down.
brendan schaub
I'm a fan, man.
She's got giant balls.
joe rogan
Her ground game is so high.
eddie bravo
She went right through that.
brendan schaub
It looked like that chick never trained.
She looked too thick, though.
That fight.
joe rogan
You didn't like it?
brendan schaub
I like thick, but then there's like, damn girl, we need a little pride here.
joe rogan
I think it's the way she's dressed.
If she was in a miniskirt with a halter top...
brendan schaub
Oh, don't get it twisted.
I'm on board, whatever she's wearing.
I'm just saying that.
Like, glove handles are spilling over the top.
I'm like, all right, now.
Sometimes I like that.
The UFC kit's a little thick.
joe rogan
Sometimes I like that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm not mad at it, but...
She's looked better.
joe rogan
It all depends on how much ass goes with the package.
brendan schaub
You're right.
The front-to-back ratio.
joe rogan
It depends...
unidentified
See, this is why we can't be on ESPN or Fox.
joe rogan
Fire me.
Good.
joey diaz
Fire me, I dare you.
joe rogan
Well, he's not even saying that.
Just make me do the pay-per-views.
I'm fine with that.
brendan schaub
That's all you do anyway.
joe rogan
I do the previews.
I do the prelims.
brendan schaub
Well, I wonder how that's going to go.
I guess the contract comes over.
Does everyone, like the UFC Tonight crew, everyone just folds over?
joe rogan
Well, my contract is with the UFC and I was never working for Fox.
I didn't do the Fox.
But you did before.
Yeah, but one of the stipulations of my newer contract, I said I didn't want to do the Fox events anymore.
brendan schaub
And that deals through when?
joe rogan
It's already done.
It's already done.
This year, I don't do any of the Fox events.
If you notice when there are big fights on Fox, I don't do any of them.
brendan schaub
Not even the big ones?
joe rogan
Nope.
None of them.
Zero.
brendan schaub
He just does pay-per-views.
joe rogan
Stop doing it.
Don't want to do it anymore.
brendan schaub
Too much work?
joe rogan
Too much work.
Too much traveling.
This suit is not a big deal because they have the suit there for me.
But my issue was Fox actually paid me less money.
Less money to do the events on Fox.
I was like, you guys are high.
brendan schaub
Never paying you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I thought the UFC paid you.
It's a Fox event.
joe rogan
It's a Fox event.
I didn't like, when I first started doing it for them, they got in my ear.
The very first events for Fox, they were telling me what to do.
They were telling me to take it down a notch, don't be so amped up about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, what are we doing here?
I go, listen, I do commentary.
This is what I do.
I've been doing it forever.
This is how I do it.
If you think you can change me, then we're not going to work together.
I'm like, we had a real problem.
brendan schaub
And that was a Fox production, right, Joe?
joe rogan
Yes, it was a Fox production.
brendan schaub
Was that the Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez?
That was The Pond.
joe rogan
Yeah, I believe that was the first one.
Yeah, but it's just...
I just didn't like it.
They want a sports guy.
Look, MMA is what it is.
It's fighting.
It is a very specific kind of sport.
And I've been doing it the way I do it forever.
If you don't like the way I do it, that's fine.
Don't hire me.
But don't try to get me to become some sports guy.
I'm not interested in that at all.
brendan schaub
When I commentated for Pride, they told me I said nice too much.
eddie bravo
I said, no, say nice.
They're like, no.
brendan schaub
They couldn't even speak English, and they thought I said nice a lot.
eddie bravo
I said, nice shot, nice jab.
joe rogan
To their credit, they stopped doing it after the first event when I voiced my displeasure.
I just let them know really clearly, we're not doing this.
I'm not going to change how I do it to make you happy.
brendan schaub
I don't need to do this.
eddie bravo
I'm helping you guys out.
joe rogan
Well, it's not even that.
It's just like, if you don't like the way I do it, it's not an option for you to direct me and tell me to do it the way you like it.
Because you think that that's better.
This is a personal choice by one or two, whoever the fuck the people were, that were producers or executives.
I don't agree with them, and I'm not doing it that way.
It's real simple.
If you bought a Ferrari and it had a certain sound to it, and you're like, man, I don't like this sound.
Can you guys go back to the factory and fix these mufflers?
They'd be like, what are you, high?
This is what a Ferrari is.
You don't like it, then you like Ferraris.
No, no, no.
I like a Ferrari, but I want it to sound like a Corolla.
brendan schaub
It doesn't work.
joe rogan
They'd be like, no.
Probably a bad analogy, but the idea behind it you get.
This is what I do.
I get amped up.
If some shit is going down and these guys are throwing blows and I'm screaming, it's because I feel that way.
brendan schaub
Some would call it passion.
joe rogan
Well, it's legitimate passion.
I'm not faking it, but they didn't want that.
But they let it go after a while, but it's not like they fought for me when I quit either.
brendan schaub
How long is the Reebok deal for?
Three years, I think.
Another three years?
Two to three years.
I wonder if it worked out for Reebok.
Is Reebok exploding now because of this?
Well, Adidas owns Reebok, so Adidas is killing it.
But I don't know if Reebok's exploding.
They're in their niche, right?
They're MMA, they're in with CrossFit, so they're in that world.
And to Reebok's defense, you know, they made the offer.
They don't know.
They didn't know what the deal was.
They didn't know they were screwing over fighters.
It's more of a UFC thing.
It was not Reebok.
Reebok's like, whoa, the fuck?
joe rogan
It seemed like even the UFC wasn't aware of how much fighters were actually making off of sponsorships.
You and I know that there was some debate as to whether or not...
They had a distorted perception of how much some fighters were making.
brendan schaub
I don't think they care.
I think they talk to maybe the top 10 guys and like, hey, we're going to pay you this.
We'll take care of you in this way.
And then the rest of the guys get on board.
But again, I get it, man.
I'm not making decisions based off those 10 to 15 top guys.
I'm making decisions that's going to affect my bottom line.
Which is what they did.
One judge in the Jason Knight fight gave every round of Jason Knight.
So one judge did look at it like you, like he was on his back and he did get taken down, but he was the one that was aggressive on the ground.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree with that.
I don't think you just take a guy down and have one thing you do and then be in control.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's just being educated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I gotta get out of here soon, boys.
joe rogan
Let's wrap this motherfucker up.
Eddie Bravo, tell everybody you're at Tinfoil Hat Comedy at Cobbs.
brendan schaub
Yeah, this Friday at Cobbs in San Francisco, Saturday in Sacramento.
Punchline.
At the Punchline.
joe rogan
The Punchline, Sacramento?
I love that place.
brendan schaub
And then I'm at the Ice House on the 15th, June 15th of the Ice House, one show only.
And then I'm in Houston, Houston Improv, the 22nd, 23rd, June 26th, 23rd.
You can get your tickets at livenation.com.
tfatk.com.
joe rogan
All right, we love you guys.
Bye.
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