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BAM! We're live! | ||
We got up early as a motherfucker, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
Not really. | ||
Nah. | ||
It's 10 a.m. | ||
Didn't we do one at like 4 a.m. | ||
before? | ||
We did one at 5 a.m. | ||
Remember that? | ||
Damn. | ||
It was a England card, right? | ||
Was it? | ||
Something. | ||
Maybe it was like China or something. | ||
Congo. | ||
It might have been China. | ||
It might have been China. | ||
What time is it in Africa right now? | ||
Is it yesterday? | ||
I think they're 12 hours ahead. | ||
Is it Wednesday in Africa? | ||
It's definitely 1960. I forgot he knocked out Whitaker. | ||
We're looking at Wonderboy stopping Whitaker. | ||
Yeah, that's big. | ||
At 70. Yeah, but Whitaker was diminished, man. | ||
Getting down to 170 was a fucking battle for him. | ||
Dude, you look at Wonderboy, what he's accomplished, it's so impressive. | ||
Amazing. | ||
All the indicators would point that Wonderboy should win this fight, but I'm on the fence, man. | ||
Well, I think Till really is a bad, bad man. | ||
There's no question about it. | ||
But he did come up real short on the weigh-in, which really bums me out. | ||
Now, I had heard that his pregnant girlfriend is in, this is what everyone's saying, is in the hospital. | ||
And that she's had some serious issues, and he's been going back and forth to the hospital, and he hasn't... | ||
We just didn't have a chance to cut the weight right. | ||
A lot of people claim, you know, that that's exactly what the issue was. | ||
I don't know. | ||
That drama's never good, especially your first main card, main event in your hometown against Wonder Boy. | ||
There's enough pressure as it is. | ||
Well, the Cowboy fight was a big pressure fight, but he rose to the occasion of that in a big way. | ||
Not really, though. | ||
Was it? | ||
Because we didn't know who he was, really. | ||
Yeah, but it was his opportunity. | ||
For sure, but you're fighting a smaller guy. | ||
It's against Cowboy, you know? | ||
So he goes forward and does work. | ||
Now it's like, man. | ||
I mean, there's been guys who have blown up before, but the hype on Till, and I'm all up on his dick, but there's a ton of hype on him. | ||
If he wins this one... | ||
It's off to the races. | ||
It is, but he's fucking four and a half pounds over championship weight. | ||
That is a lot. | ||
That's not a little. | ||
That's a lot. | ||
It's such an advantage, too. | ||
You know, fighters that have missed weight are undefeated this year. | ||
When they still fight, they're undefeated. | ||
Yeah, it's a big advantage. | ||
It's a form of cheating. | ||
If you do it on purpose, for sure. | ||
I think what's interesting, what Wonderboy did, he said you've got to weigh 188 the next day. | ||
Tight move. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because Till's a big boy. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Till's a really big boy. | ||
Very smart. | ||
Like, whatever advantage that he got from not cutting that extra three pounds, you know, now he's three and a half pounds, now he's lost a little bit of it, I guess. | ||
If you're Wonderboy though, you want to drag this into later rounds. | ||
You know he's going to come out aggressive. | ||
You know he's had some drama cutting weight and he had to cut more weight to maintain it the day of. | ||
Yeah, it's all fascinating, man. | ||
It's all fascinating. | ||
We're going to find out a lot. | ||
The other thing is, too, the styles. | ||
Like, what Wonderboy does is at kicking distance. | ||
Like, if you watch the exchanges that he's at, he moves real good at the waist like a snake, like back and forth. | ||
But he wants to keep you not even at Muay Thai kicking distance. | ||
He keeps you at karate kicking distance. | ||
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Far. | |
Which is sideways and very far. | ||
Far. | ||
Tough to reach. | ||
And Darren's got to close that gap. | ||
And closing that gap is when Wonderboy's the most dangerous. | ||
And if you see some of his training footage, he seems to be concentrating on blitzing in and countering and sidestepping and countering. | ||
Like a matador. | ||
If you look at Wonderboy's history, whenever he fights aggressive dudes, they get fucked. | ||
Up. | ||
Yeah, that's like his best style. | ||
That's literally what he wants. | ||
He's like, come on, bring it on. | ||
And that's what Till wants to do. | ||
Yeah, it's very interesting. | ||
But I'm telling you, man, nothing in this fight would surprise me. | ||
Unless Darren Till just goes out there and just mercs him. | ||
Just no respect, mercs him. | ||
That's the only thing that would surprise me. | ||
But if Till does win, strap a fucking rocket ship to that boy's back. | ||
Because now that Bisbing's retired, UK needs a face, that's him. | ||
He's the fucking guy, man. | ||
Even if he loses, he could still be that. | ||
He's 25 years old. | ||
Yeah, but not to that extent. | ||
You beat Wonderboy and you knock out Wonderboy, it's fucking off to the races. | ||
He's a super talented striker, though. | ||
What he did to Cowboy, it wasn't just impressive. | ||
It was complete domination. | ||
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Demoralizing, yeah. | |
Just controlled the range. | ||
He controlled every single aspect of the exchanges. | ||
Cowboy got like one good knee off at one point in time. | ||
And one good right hand to the body. | ||
I re-watched the fight the other day. | ||
Just to kind of get amped up for this. | ||
It's so impressive. | ||
Oh, man, he obliterated him. | ||
The thing, too, about Till where I think he gets so much hype is a lot of guys talk, like Colby Covington's an amazing, talented fighter. | ||
There's a lot of guys who talk a lot of stuff. | ||
I'm like, all right, it's more of an act. | ||
They're super talented. | ||
But when Darren Till talks, I'm like, God, it's almost that Conor McGregor effect. | ||
I'm like, this fool actually believes it. | ||
He believes it, and he has those ridiculous skills, and that's going to go a long ways. | ||
What'd you think? | ||
Damn. | ||
There's going to be no jiu-jitsu in this, Eddie. | ||
No jiu-jitsu. | ||
If it goes to the ground, we're all fucked. | ||
All I know about Darren Till is his fight with Cerrone. | ||
That's it. | ||
This card is going to be interesting. | ||
You were going to have Gunnar Nelson on the card, though. | ||
Is Gunnar Nelson on the card? | ||
No, he got hurt. | ||
But you're going to have Gunnar Nelson and Neil Magno, which was a fun fight. | ||
That's a great fight. | ||
They were going to do Gunnar Nelson until, but for whatever reason, they decided to go with Wonderboy. | ||
Jason Knight, I know about him. | ||
Did he already fight on the undercard, or is he on the main card? | ||
He's on the main card. | ||
Oh, beautiful. | ||
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Who is he fighting? | |
He has a tough fight. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
He has a tough fight. | ||
Very tough fight. | ||
Oh, Marikani. | ||
Yeah, he's a monster. | ||
The Japanese guy? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Well, he lives in Finland, but what is his background? | ||
He's a... | ||
Kurdistan, it says. | ||
He's a really good wrestler who also has wild ass strikes, man. | ||
Flying knees and shit. | ||
Super tough fight for your boy, yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Neil Magny. | ||
Who's Neil Magny fighting now? | ||
For Wonderboy, though, there's not a ton of upside for him for this fight. | ||
I don't know why he took it, to be honest. | ||
It's a good matchup for him, but you're in dangerous territory, right? | ||
You're fighting the number nine guy. | ||
You're ranked number one. | ||
He misses weight. | ||
He's huge. | ||
I feel like all the pressure's off Wonderboy right now, especially after he's missing weight. | ||
But if you're Wonderboy, even if you starch Till, they're not giving you a title shot. | ||
Until Woodley loses that strap, Wonderboy's not fighting for a title. | ||
14-2-1 for Wonderboy. | ||
You gotta remember, the only loss was to Tyron Woodley and then to Matt Brown. | ||
Those two fights and one draw with Woodley. | ||
Crazy. | ||
Why couldn't he fight Woodley again? | ||
Well, that's what he's asking. | ||
First of all, he's saying, why don't I get a shot at the interim title? | ||
How are you giving the interim title to Colby Covington, who only beat Damian Maia, who's 40 years old, who's clearly past his prime? | ||
How is that good enough to get him a shot at the interim title? | ||
We talked a lot of shit. | ||
That's it. | ||
Yeah, there you go. | ||
That's basically it. | ||
That goes a long way. | ||
But at the same time, yeah, it goes a long way this day and age. | ||
But at the same time with RDA, you know, they're not doing Colby any favors. | ||
Send him down to Brazil. | ||
Oh, no, I'm sorry. | ||
It's in Chicago. | ||
Yeah, Chicago. | ||
Chicago to fight RDA, which is, if you look at Colby's style, it's probably the worst matchup for him. | ||
He's a heavy underdog. | ||
So I'm hoping, not hoping, I think what their plan would be, RDA wins that, fights Woodley, which is a tough matchup for Woodley, and if RDA were able to beat Woodley, then you have Wonderboy slip in there. | ||
Or Colby wins, and then you got mad shit talking with him and Woodley, and it gets very interesting. | ||
It gets super interesting. | ||
I like that fight. | ||
It's a good fight. | ||
I like Colby and Tyron. | ||
Colby's the underdog in every one of those fights. | ||
He is. | ||
But RDA-Woodley, you got a barn burn in your hands. | ||
That's a great matchup. | ||
Yeah. | ||
RDA-Woodley's very interesting. | ||
Because as much as they, you know, I love Woodley, I think his style is ridiculous, he's going to be tough to beat. | ||
You know, I think they want some bit of turnover in there with Woodley. | ||
They want some turnover. | ||
What is RDA going to do to Woodley? | ||
I mean, he's not going to be able to take him down. | ||
No. | ||
The only thing he's got going on is striking. | ||
And his movement's good. | ||
And if it does go to the ground... | ||
Woodley's a tough one to beat for anybody. | ||
Even RDA is striking. | ||
Woodley has, I'll put you to sleep, instantly striking. | ||
Woodley has more power. | ||
RDA has better fundamentals, I would say. | ||
As far as putting Muay Thai, putting it together, kicks with the hands. | ||
You put that speed, the power, the explosiveness. | ||
Woodley's a goddamn knight, man. | ||
He's terrified. | ||
Woodley's still the favorite in that fight. | ||
It's not going to the ground. | ||
Unless Woodley wants it to. | ||
Woodley just got through shoulder surgery. | ||
He just got his labrum repaired, which is not the worst shoulder surgery. | ||
What does that mean exactly? | ||
He stapled the labrum back to his bone? | ||
No, the labrum, he had some sort of a tear in it that fucked up in the Damien Maia fight instantly. | ||
They stitch it back together again, but he's gone through crazy PRP and all kinds of other shit. | ||
Now, he put up a video of him hitting mitts, and it's only been about three months since the surgery, and he's hitting mitts hard. | ||
I don't know if that's an old video, though. | ||
You know, he put up this video of him. | ||
He's a freak, though. | ||
He might be getting some injections in there. | ||
He definitely got some injections. | ||
He was talking about all the different things he was going to do. | ||
He came on the podcast just a few weeks after shoulder surgery, and he was moving around normal and moving his hands around normal. | ||
But it really depends entirely on how bad this is. | ||
The big one is the bicep tendon. | ||
When the bicep tendon gets torn off the muscle or off the bone, and then they have to put it back in, staple it down. | ||
It does work right now. | ||
Now it does. | ||
Not for pitchers. | ||
If you're a pitcher and that shit goes south, you're diggity done. | ||
But for a fighter, no problem. | ||
It doesn't seem to be a problem for fighters. | ||
But I bet Woodley, so you got RDA, Colby, so obviously the winner of that will fight Woodley. | ||
End of the year. | ||
Woodley will be back in the year. | ||
No doubt. | ||
Yeah, could very well be on the December 31st card. | ||
You know, that's a big one. | ||
Huge card. | ||
You know, I mean, I think they were trying to talk about him being on the August card in L.A., but that's not going to happen. | ||
That's a damn good card right now, right? | ||
L.A. is? | ||
Isn't it? | ||
Well, they were waiting for GSB Nate, and obviously that's not happening, so who do you have now in L.A.? Let's see. | ||
Let's pull that up. | ||
Did they find an opponent for Zybit? | ||
We're just going to be at Staples? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, they want to do Cyborg versus Nunes. | ||
Not happening. | ||
Nunes suspended. | ||
Is she? | ||
Yeah. | ||
What'd she hurt? | ||
Her hands from whooping that ass. | ||
Whooping that ass? | ||
Damn. | ||
Oh yeah, TJ and Cody. | ||
Damn! | ||
That's LA? Yeah. | ||
Oh, I'm very excited. | ||
What's the date of Struggle Street right now? | ||
What's the date? | ||
Not nearly as good. | ||
August 4th. | ||
The card's not nearly as good as it was going to be. | ||
No, it was going to be a bar burner, but Chicago's stacked. | ||
Yeah, so far this card is not the greatest. | ||
Well, it has a lot of time. | ||
It has some time, though. | ||
It does. | ||
We're only in May. | ||
And there's some great fights coming up. | ||
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Robert Whittaker, Yoel Romero, son! | |
Chicago is one of the best cards ever. | ||
Dos Anjos, Colby Covington, Holly Holm, Megan Anderson. | ||
Hey, let this sink in. | ||
You got CM Punk versus that, I forget his name, Jackson. | ||
Over, Overeem, Curtis Blaze, Claudio Gadeja, Esparza. | ||
That's so disgusting. | ||
And then on the undercard, you got Rashad Evans. | ||
And my boy, Joey Benavidez versus Pettis. | ||
CM Punk said, take a seat, y'all. | ||
That is so crazy. | ||
Mike Jackson, that's right. | ||
That is so crazy to me. | ||
0-1 versus 0-1. | ||
Does that piss you off? | ||
No, because I get it. | ||
Because I'm not a fighter. | ||
If I was a fighter, I'd be furious. | ||
But out of the game, in entertainment, I'm like, I get what you're doing. | ||
Selling some wolf tickets there. | ||
I get what you're doing. | ||
It's the worst fight of all time in UFC history, skill-wise. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Spicely's good. | ||
He's about to fight now. | ||
Eric Spicely? | ||
What do you guys know about him? | ||
I don't know anything about him. | ||
No? | ||
I mean, I've probably seen him fight before. | ||
He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu. | ||
His jiu-jitsu is really good. | ||
Yeah, he's the favorite. | ||
He's really good. | ||
He's a weird body. | ||
Where's he from, Jay? | ||
Somewhere on the East Coast. | ||
When he's in LA, he comes through my school. | ||
He's really good. | ||
He merks everybody. | ||
Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Does that CM Punk Jackson stuff bother you, Joe, or are you used to it now? | ||
It bothers me. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I don't like it. | ||
I don't mind him fighting. | ||
I think it's great that he's fighting. | ||
In the UFC. I think it's great that he's testing himself. | ||
In the UFC. Even if they wanted to do it in the UFC, have him on the prelims, put him on FS1, make it... | ||
You know, make it a fight pass thing. | ||
I think his contract won't allow that. | ||
I think his contract has to be pay-per-view. | ||
I'd assume if you're seeing Punk, you're that big of a draw. | ||
Maybe he was. | ||
Is he still? | ||
Do you think? | ||
How many people are going to buy that pay-per-view to watch him fight? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Sam Punk? | ||
Yeah. | ||
That first one he got his ass whipped so bad. | ||
Is the WWE raging? | ||
Huge. | ||
It's huge. | ||
People are actually going. | ||
So just like that Raw, the Raw series, which Fox has now, which a lot of people, I don't think they realize, Fox decided to go with the WWE instead of the UFC. They turned down the UFC and went with WWE. And now they have the Raw series, which gets like three-something million viewers every time they air it. | ||
It's a built-in audience. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
I always bet on dudes who have hairy backs. | ||
Yeah, their testosterone is usually way higher than everyone else's. | ||
And he's going bald. | ||
Two or two for two. | ||
He's got some fucking gorilla back. | ||
Look at that shit. | ||
That's some werewolf type shit. | ||
But not hairy legs, which is weird. | ||
Yeah, very strange. | ||
That's not weird. | ||
That's some weird hair placement. | ||
Unless he's trying to slip out of leg locks. | ||
He's got his legs all shaved down. | ||
He's got a weird body though, right? | ||
Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
He's a character. | ||
If he goes to the ground, homeboy's in trouble. | ||
Good jab. | ||
He's got a good jab. | ||
Look at that pop-pop. | ||
You know, good range. | ||
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Oh! | |
Damn, Stewart just popped in. | ||
Where's Stewart from? | ||
He had a white flag. | ||
It looked like a Red Cross flag. | ||
That's country. | ||
Dude, have you seen... | ||
Oh, that's England? | ||
Fucking England, lad. | ||
Yeah, the what? | ||
Come on. | ||
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Scouse, lad. | |
I'm sorry. | ||
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I forgot. | |
That's why he was in Braveheart. | ||
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I forgot. | |
Fucking Braveheart. | ||
I haven't seen Braveheart in 10 years. | ||
That was Scotland, bro. | ||
That's a totally different country. | ||
God damn it, Kenny. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Okay. | ||
It's still United Kingdom, though. | ||
It's true. | ||
Good point. | ||
Good point. | ||
Yeah, we were talking before the podcast about how good Renato La Ronja's scouse is. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
His Liverpool accent. | ||
It's so good. | ||
It's fucking amazing. | ||
It's so good. | ||
He's so talented. | ||
Yours was good, too, the other night. | ||
Mine? | ||
Yeah, your gentile was fucking good. | ||
I don't know what I was doing. | ||
It was good. | ||
That was high. | ||
Yeah, it was good, though. | ||
I was channeling. | ||
Super legit, though. | ||
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I'm doing everything I can to prepare. | |
Yeah, a lot of pressure on that kid. | ||
Yeah, well, it's crazy if this is all going on, as we heard, that while his girlfriend is pregnant and in the hospital. | ||
And she's having issues, like with the baby? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
I can't imagine. | ||
Check this out. | ||
He's about to take him down. | ||
We've been through pregnancies before. | ||
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It's terrifying. | |
Oh, he's going to take him down. | ||
Oh, you just want a healthy baby. | ||
That's the last thing you want to deal with fight week. | ||
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Exactly. | |
There it goes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh, maybe not. | ||
Maybe not. | ||
Is it the same baby mom or a different one? | ||
We probably don't know. | ||
I have zero idea. | ||
Did you sync up? | ||
Do people know where we're at? | ||
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No. | |
You still do that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Is that necessary? | ||
Do we have a number on the screen, Jamie? | ||
239. Jamie hooks it up on the screen now. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
So people are watching it. | ||
Oh, tight move, Jamie. | ||
Jamie's on the fucking ball side. | ||
Jamie is vibrant today because it's game seven of the Cavs. | ||
He's all nervous. | ||
Oh, look at him. | ||
He's got double C's. | ||
Double C's. | ||
Gotta go all in. | ||
Whatever it takes. | ||
Did you wake up and pray this morning, Jamie, for LeBron James' health? | ||
He burnt some incense and shit. | ||
Kevin Love to come back. | ||
I saw that three-pointer that he hit, like, I don't know, game six or something. | ||
The game winner. | ||
They actually have something interesting going on. | ||
They have a concussion protocol that's getting one of their players out. | ||
So, like, a guy got hit in the head during the game, and he can't play until he goes through, like, five tests. | ||
Kevin Love? | ||
Yeah, so he's missing the game. | ||
For fucking basketball? | ||
For game seven? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I like Kevin Love because he's a UCLA guy, but man the fuck up. | ||
It's not him, it's the league. | ||
There's rules and shit. | ||
Why would they do that? | ||
It's not him. | ||
It's not him, it's the rules. | ||
But why would they do that for basketball? | ||
Brain damage, bro. | ||
Has there ever been some CTE in basketball? | ||
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Sure. | |
Really? | ||
Who? | ||
There's a couple players that have had some problems. | ||
Really? | ||
It's not rampant like the NFL, obviously, but they get in trouble and they don't want to be liable just like the NFL. They get sued at the end of the day. | ||
Makes sense. | ||
Makes sense. | ||
Crazy though, huh? | ||
The last people you'd think would be putting people on the bench. | ||
Oh, I know. | ||
Especially Game 7. So what's going on with the ESPN deal? | ||
When does that start? | ||
I don't know. | ||
So UFC's going to be on ESPN now? | ||
Yeah. | ||
No more Fox. | ||
No more Fox. | ||
That's done. | ||
No more Fox. | ||
No, it finishes at the end of this year. | ||
It was supposed to be Fox and ESPN were going to split it, right? | ||
Yeah, and then Fox didn't want to pay the premium. | ||
But I think it's better. | ||
I think it was a home run for the UFC, man, to land at ESPN. It's as serious as it gets as far as major sports. | ||
It's on one network. | ||
And also, with ESPN, so you have ESPN +, which will get some fight nights, and you have regular ESPN, ESPN2. With Fox, not that they didn't do a great job, but it was FXX. I think ESPN can learn from the mistakes from Fox and just make it that much better. | ||
I think you're right about that because there's been some times that I thought I had my DVR set, but then I get home and it was on FS1. I'm like, motherfucker! | ||
Or sometimes it's like my bat NASCAR is playing, so go to FXX times 6. It's like, well, fuck, man. | ||
Where's that at? | ||
Or a baseball game goes long and you've got to go to FS2. You've got to find it. | ||
Where is that? | ||
Is that 672? | ||
My only concern on ESPN is because ESPN obviously has the NFL, has the NBA. How much focus are we going to put on the UFC? We don't want to be the side chick. | ||
Right. | ||
Because they're married to the NBA, NFL. That's their baby. | ||
Is the UFC going to be the side chick? | ||
Right. | ||
Good point. | ||
That's what you don't want. | ||
But they've been putting on some good boxing matches. | ||
They had the Lomachenko fight. | ||
Yeah, Lomachenko contracted Lomachenko. | ||
Yeah, they had another really good fight on recently, too. | ||
I got Lomachenko on my podcast coming up. | ||
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Ooh. | |
Yeah. | ||
Excited for that. | ||
I don't know how his English is, but we'll figure it out. | ||
Yeah, they contacted me too. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I think I'm going to have them on as well. | ||
Might as well. | ||
Might as well. | ||
I got questions. | ||
I got a lot of questions. | ||
I'm going to watch yours first. | ||
Make up my mind if I pull the trigger on that. | ||
Like, ooh, this one ain't so good. | ||
I'm Fox, ESPN. Learn from my mistakes. | ||
Get a translator. | ||
Sometimes it's like you think it'd be a good idea to have somebody on, but if you had them on, it'd be like, ooh, how long could you talk to them? | ||
I know. | ||
Well, it'd be for the Showtime below the TV show, so it's only a six-minute segment. | ||
Yeah, when you've had Cyborg on, but you've had her on with her boyfriend, her boyfriend translates? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, no, her English is pretty good, but if there's ever issues, she'll, like, take over, you know? | ||
Like, she'll explain it, and then it's a little, I'm a little like, God, I don't know what you're talking about right now, and then she'll take over. | ||
But it works great, yeah. | ||
It's hard. | ||
When I had Yoel on, it was the best, because Joey was translating for Yoel. | ||
No one better than Joey did translate. | ||
It was great. | ||
It's a fucking hard gig, though. | ||
Translating? | ||
Nightmare. | ||
You should have Joey do it for all the fun. | ||
I mean, Eddie, you speak Spanish. | ||
You know how hard it is. | ||
I barely speak Spanish. | ||
But you speak enough to talk to people. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You know, we keep it light. | ||
As soon as we get deep, I'm lost. | ||
It sounds like Iranian. | ||
They start real flowing fast. | ||
Yeah, my grandma, when she started, you know, I was the first of the grandkids to lose Spanish and felt really shameful because of that. | ||
But man, it was really embarrassing hanging out with my grandmother and she's going off and I'm like, I don't know what she's saying. | ||
I'm looking over to my aunts and my uncles. | ||
I'm like, what did she just say? | ||
It's very embarrassing. | ||
It's tough when you have a translator because you don't get in that flow. | ||
There's a flow and you're kind of connecting, going back and forth. | ||
Where if there's a translator, the chemistry's not there. | ||
You don't have that fun kind of flow. | ||
But the one thing that is good, though, what I find is that it allows you more time to think about what you're going to say. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Oh, damn. | ||
Stewart's teeing off. | ||
Ooh, spicy coming back. | ||
But sometimes when I have too much time to think about the question, it's not as good, it's not as organic. | ||
Then I feel like I work for ESPN or something like that. | ||
Right, I know exactly what you're talking about. | ||
And I don't want to be that good. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? | ||
That's the hard part of having these conversations with people, is keeping them conversations and not turning them into some corny-ass fucking interview. | ||
The worst. | ||
There's nothing worse. | ||
But sometimes you have to do that. | ||
If you can't, like sometimes I feel myself, especially with certain bonds. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
Oh, you got hurt. | ||
You got hurt. | ||
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Damn. | |
Oh, he's covering up. | ||
That's it. | ||
Stewart was an underdog, too, in this. | ||
Damn. | ||
Hit him with some bombs. | ||
England coming in strong. | ||
Yeah, man, I've watched those interviews, those standard interviews now, where, you know, there's no connection between the person talking and the other person answering the questions, and they're so gross. | ||
You know, I was having this conversation with Ken Jeong. | ||
Yeah, Dr. Ken? | ||
Yeah, Dr. Ken, who's amazing. | ||
Might be the nicest guy in the world. | ||
He's a sweetheart. | ||
But he doesn't do a lot of... | ||
He's like, podcast? | ||
Really? | ||
I'm like, dude, have your public set up Joe or something. | ||
The podcast, it's as big as it gets, man. | ||
He's like, yeah. | ||
And the example I gave him, I go, say you went on Tonight Show and you do a four-minute segment, you're going to have to... | ||
You're literally promoting whatever movie or the stand-up, your special coming out. | ||
That's all you're doing is promoting, trying to get people to buy that. | ||
That's not real, man. | ||
That's not the real you. | ||
If we film this, people are going to be a fan of you. | ||
Then buy whatever you're going to be into or whatever you're pitching. | ||
That's a much better way to go. | ||
There's no time limit. | ||
There's no restrictions. | ||
It's crazy that there's no other place for that. | ||
Even Howard Stern would do interviews with people. | ||
He would get people to say a lot of shit. | ||
He had an agenda. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He had an agenda. | ||
Howard Stern had an agenda? | ||
Typically, yeah. | ||
To get, like, dirt out, you want to find out who you're fucking. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
That's an agenda, though. | ||
That's an agenda, though. | ||
He wasn't just having a conversation with you. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He calls himself the dentist. | ||
Okay. | ||
I get it. | ||
Does he fuck people's teeth up? | ||
Does he have nice teeth? | ||
He's actually a dentist. | ||
Well, I hope he has bad teeth. | ||
No, he knocks. | ||
He pulls people's teeth out. | ||
It's hard. | ||
With his fists. | ||
For sure. | ||
That's a terrible name. | ||
Yeah, well, it's already been taken, too. | ||
Josh Nier. | ||
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Remember? | |
Come on, bro. | ||
Old school. | ||
That's a great name, dude that knocks teeth out. | ||
Yeah, come on, man. | ||
That's beautiful. | ||
Josh Nier, in my opinion, he's a guy that if you're a hardcore fan, you know who Josh Nier is. | ||
And Josh Nier's been around a long time. | ||
The new fans don't know him, though. | ||
So they're like, ooh, dentist? | ||
That's so cool. | ||
Still. | ||
That's like calling yourself Hands of Stone if you're a boxer. | ||
Lay the fuck off. | ||
Yeah, true. | ||
That's Roberto Duran. | ||
Back the fuck up. | ||
Not saying that Josh Neer's in the same breath as Roberto Duran, but as a fan, a fan for a long time, yeah, that's his nickname. | ||
Someone had hands of stone, though. | ||
John Lineker. | ||
John Lineker. | ||
Someone from Canada. | ||
What about Hominick or Sam Stout, one of them? | ||
Sam Stout, that's right. | ||
He did it, too. | ||
But so did Homeboy and Strikeforce that came over to the UFC. They almost had the double knockout. | ||
He hit a homeboy with a body shot and he got knocked out. | ||
What's his name? | ||
Scott Smith. | ||
Yeah, Scott Smith. | ||
Hands of Stones, right? | ||
Hands of Steel? | ||
Steel. | ||
There's a lot of that. | ||
There's a lot of that going around. | ||
Some people just go hard with those fucking made-up nicknames and make them up for themselves. | ||
Yeah, you can't do that, man. | ||
You can't give yourself a nickname. | ||
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You just can't do that. | |
People do all the time. | ||
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I know you can't, though. | |
It doesn't work that way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Like, imagine if you were a kid who went in the neighborhood and just gave yourself a nickname. | ||
Get the fuck out of here. | ||
We're calling you this. | ||
Exactly! | ||
Exactly. | ||
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Nah, man. | |
I'm the Dark Knight. | ||
No, you're not. | ||
Well, that's what I like about Brazilians. | ||
They all have silly nicknames, like Shoe Face. | ||
Tree Stump? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's great. | ||
They have fun nicknames. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
If it's 2018 and you're just starting out and you call yourself the Pitbull, fuck off. | ||
Get the fuck out of my face. | ||
Get out of here, man. | ||
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Fuck off. | |
There's some that are off limits. | ||
Is that the most common one? | ||
It might be. | ||
That might be. | ||
Pitbull's There's about seven pitbulls in Bellator. | ||
There's three in UFC at least. | ||
And there's girls too. | ||
Isn't there other cool dogs? | ||
Jack Russell. | ||
That's the coolest one. | ||
They're cool. | ||
They designed to hunt rats. | ||
Those are rat hunters. | ||
Have you ever seen that Netflix documentary where they use Jack Russell terriers to get rats? | ||
There you go. | ||
Yo, it's crazy. | ||
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Damn, it's perfect. | |
I don't feel like I want to watch that. | ||
They tear them apart. | ||
For an hour? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
The documentary's all on how fucked up rats are and how many of them are. | ||
Oh, gotcha. | ||
You ever see that? | ||
Dude, it will freaking stop. | ||
And they use Jack Russells to go after rats? | ||
Yeah, that is why Jack Russells are so aggressive. | ||
Little Terriers, it's one of the reasons why they're so aggressive is because they're constantly chasing after these fucking rats. | ||
When they get them, they tear these rats apart, man. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Damn. | ||
Dude, those are some bush league dogs. | ||
That's a mix. | ||
The Jamie, that's from the movie? | ||
These are, but there's a bunch of them. | ||
These are all. | ||
But Jack Russell Terriers in particular, one of the reasons why they're so small and so aggressive, they would go into holes and go after rats. | ||
Dude, look at the blood on the back. | ||
Where the fuck are they? | ||
A Michael Vick video. | ||
Dark place. | ||
Ugh. | ||
But this documentary will freak you the fuck out. | ||
There's more rats than there are people in New York City. | ||
Aren't there like 30 million or 60 million rats or some shit? | ||
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Something insane. | |
Something crazy. | ||
Something insane. | ||
And they have like all sorts of diseases. | ||
Everything that can kill you. | ||
They have all kinds of deadly shit. | ||
You just don't get it. | ||
Because most people don't get bit by rats. | ||
And they're smart. | ||
But we need rats though, right? | ||
Don't they eat the trash? | ||
That's a good question. | ||
Do they eat the trash? | ||
How come we just can't just breed rats and just throw them in the dump and just have them eat? | ||
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I don't think they eat like fucking milk containers. | |
Breed Eddie Bravo's got a rat breeding service. | ||
Releases them in the dump. | ||
Yo, they eat cans. | ||
Plastic! | ||
Yeah, but now we gotta get rid of the rat shit. | ||
Oh, fuck. | ||
I didn't think of that. | ||
Hey, use it as fertilizer. | ||
Dude, that can't be good for the dog's mouth. | ||
Jimmy Manoa. | ||
Boom, boom, boom. | ||
He's a fun hot minute. | ||
When did he fight last? | ||
He lost to somebody. | ||
I thought he starched homeboy, the wrestler. | ||
Oh, Nordin Taleb. | ||
He's very good. | ||
That guy's good. | ||
He's nasty. | ||
Isn't he TriStar? | ||
Yeah, he is. | ||
He looks like the guy with the rose in his mouth from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out. | ||
He does! | ||
Doesn't he? | ||
He does! | ||
Identical. | ||
He does. | ||
Darren Till's got some prominent cheekbones, huh? | ||
Yeah, he does. | ||
Gorilla-like. | ||
I bet that's why he got that nickname, the Gorilla. | ||
He looks like he's got at least 5% Neanderthal. | ||
Do you think someone gave him that nickname? | ||
The Gorilla? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I hope so. | ||
Me too. | ||
That bumps me out. | ||
When people give themselves their own nicknames. | ||
I call myself the gorilla. | ||
I hated my nickname the Twister so much. | ||
I hated that shit because it sounds pretty homosexual. | ||
The Twister? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because Higgin and Jean-Jacques would always call me that. | ||
Because of the guillotine. | ||
They called the wrestlers guillotine the Twister. | ||
And I asked Jean-Jacques, I'm like, how do you say the Twister in Portuguese? | ||
And he goes, Tornado. | ||
I go, can you call me that? | ||
That sounds way better. | ||
Tornado's sick! | ||
Yeah, call me that. | ||
That sounds sexy. | ||
They would never call me that. | ||
I kept calling me Twister. | ||
And it started sounding good when I'd compete and people would start yelling at Twister. | ||
Then I thought, okay, okay, I think I like it now. | ||
I dig it, man. | ||
Tornado. | ||
Tornado. | ||
I just kept thinking of the game, the twister and the yellow dots and the green dots. | ||
You should get a tattoo that says El Tornado. | ||
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Yes. | |
That's fucking dope. | ||
It never stuck. | ||
Why don't you get... | ||
It's sticking right now. | ||
No, I'm going to call you that. | ||
Tornado? | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
That's way better than the Twister. | ||
Dude, that's a great word. | ||
Sounds sexy. | ||
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Tornado. | |
Sounds dangerous. | ||
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Tornado. | |
Tornado. | ||
This summer. | ||
Tornado. | ||
There you go. | ||
That would be a great license plate if you could fit all those words. | ||
Tornado. | ||
Tornado with an O. Wait a minute. | ||
Tornado does have a no. | ||
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It's the exact same thing. | |
It's A. There's an A in there. | ||
Oh, we're just saying it different. | ||
Instead of tornado, no, there's to-ra-na-do. | ||
There's an A in there. | ||
In English it's tornade. | ||
Tornade. | ||
And in Spanish it's tornado. | ||
Is it? | ||
No, I'm just not. | ||
Tora. | ||
The A. Toranado. | ||
That's what makes it dope. | ||
You can't pick your nickname. | ||
Like, Callan called me Big Brown for the longest. | ||
I'm like, why is it? | ||
Because you're Big fucking Brown. | ||
That's just what... | ||
And then I would walk by, people would yell out, Big Brown! | ||
It's like, alright, well, fuck it. | ||
That's stuck, right? | ||
That's a good nickname. | ||
Kind of. | ||
It's fun. | ||
It's a fun nickname. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's good. | ||
Do you have a nickname? | ||
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Nope. | |
That's just from you. | ||
Yeah, that's it. | ||
But even when you were doing Taekwondo, no one gave you a nickname? | ||
No. | ||
Joe. | ||
No. | ||
When I was playing pool a lot, I was Joe the Comedian. | ||
Dude, GSP went off on the podcast he just did on your turning sidekick. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Talk about endorsements, man. | ||
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He was critiquing it? | |
That's GSP for a half an hour is going on about his power. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
No shit, George. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
That's GSP going off on Joe Rogan. | ||
We trained a little afterwards. | ||
I switched my mats out. | ||
I had those zebra mats that are super smooth. | ||
No bueno. | ||
Too smooth. | ||
Too slick. | ||
No good for striking at all. | ||
You should do a DVD on throwing kicks. | ||
DVD? What is it? | ||
1997? | ||
Some sort of a video. | ||
People still, you know, John Danaher just put out a DVD. Well, he put out a video series, but I think it's on demand, right? | ||
I bet he did. | ||
He's still wearing Wranglers and fucking Under Armour tops, of course, but on TV TV. Hey, bro, he's got a strong fanny pack game. | ||
He's got a strong fanny pack game. | ||
These are all great points! | ||
Yeah, I would do that. | ||
George and I, we went over the front leg sidekick first, which is like the most important part, the turning sidekick. | ||
Once you get the front leg sidekick down, you understand how that works, then you turn. | ||
And then it's basically you're turning and then throwing the front leg sidekick. | ||
It's just got like an extra push to it. | ||
But most people do the front leg sidekick wrong. | ||
Their knee is too low. | ||
When your knee is too low, you lose all the power. | ||
Crazy shit. | ||
You think he's going to fight at 55, yeah? | ||
I think he's going to fight at 55, 100%. | ||
He's only 185 pounds. | ||
GSP? Yeah. | ||
He's going to fight at 55? | ||
100%. | ||
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What? | |
And he's only doing it once, and it's going to be the winner of Conor Khabib. | ||
See, look at this. | ||
This is what Wonderboy does that's weird. | ||
That sideways stance is hard to fuck with, man. | ||
I used to spar with this guy named Larry Jones. | ||
Larry Jones was this dude who was like... | ||
He was like 6'2", but his fucking legs went all the way up to his armpits, man. | ||
He had a long... | ||
He had crazy legs. | ||
Is that the guy that was standing in front of the bag when you first walked by that taekwondo school? | ||
No, that was John Lee. | ||
John Lee. | ||
He was another tall dude. | ||
Black dude or Chinese dude? | ||
Black dude. | ||
John Lee was a beast. | ||
That could easily be a Chinese dude. | ||
Yeah, it could be. | ||
Yeah, if you heard it, but he was like six foot two, black as coal, bad motherfucker. | ||
Dude, that's the beginning of the movie, dude. | ||
You walking by that Taekwondo, you just whoosh! | ||
Dude, that guy hit so hard. | ||
I saw him flatten a lot of people with that, too. | ||
But... | ||
Anyway, my friend Larry Jones, I was too short. | ||
I'm 5'8". | ||
When I would spar with him, my legs were normal length. | ||
He was 6'2", and I just could not get past that front leg sidekick. | ||
That front leg sidekick is so hard, and they can just move around with you. | ||
It's basically like a jab, and they can move around with you. | ||
And they're safe, yeah? | ||
Yeah, and you're trying to get an angle on them. | ||
There's actually a thing on Henzo's Instagram the other day. | ||
We had a photo of Hickson throwing a sidekick, and he was talking about how Hickson liked the sidekick best for Vali Tudo because you never lost your base. | ||
Like if you throw a roundhouse kick, you throw the kick, you're spinning around, you're resetting. | ||
He was kind of throwing like a front push kick sidekick. | ||
Yep. | ||
And out of all the Gracies, it looked like Hickson threw it with the most power. | ||
Because Hoist would throw it, but it didn't look powerful. | ||
But when you watch Hoist-Sakuraba 2, when it was at the Coliseum, that's a forgotten fight. | ||
Watch how Hoist would be on his back and Sakuraba standing over him. | ||
There's like purgatory Sakuraba standing. | ||
Hoist throws sidekicks off his back, dude. | ||
At the knee. | ||
Dude. | ||
Better than anybody I've ever seen. | ||
He's on his side and he was throwing some serious sidekicks off his back and fucking up Sakuraba's knees. | ||
I've never seen anybody throw him that hard. | ||
If you remember, Hickson did that to Funaki when Funaki got Hickson down. | ||
Funaki broke Hickson's orbital. | ||
People forget that was Hickson's greatest victory because Funaki was the guy that people were saying, well... | ||
He's such a good grappler. | ||
If he went to the ground with Hickson, he could actually hang with Hickson. | ||
But he cracked Hickson with a big right hand, hurt him, fucked up his eye, broke his orbital, and they went to the ground. | ||
And as Finaki was standing over Hickson, Hickson fucked his knees up. | ||
He fucked his knees up with sidekicks off of his back. | ||
Yeah, that's huge. | ||
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Huge. | |
And no one practices that shit. | ||
No, no. | ||
It's tough practice. | ||
And Henzo... | ||
Would practice upkicks specifically, just in case he was in that purgatory position where he could, boom! | ||
And it worked against Oleg Tochtarov, remember that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
That was the first upkick. | ||
First upkick KO. Yep, and I think it was either, I think Murillo Bustamante did it to Jerry Bolander, or it was either Fabio Giorgio to Bolander or Bustamante to Bolander. | ||
Upkick, boom! | ||
Took him out, bam! | ||
You know, upkicks are now legal in combat jiu-jitsu. | ||
They're legal? | ||
Yes. | ||
Upkicks are legal? | ||
Upkicks are legal. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
How hard was that to get past? | ||
You know what? | ||
In amateur MMA, upkicks are legal. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Amateur MMA, upkicks are legal. | ||
We added them to combat jiu-jitsu because guys were getting too comfortable in purgatory. | ||
Just standing over Other guys, they didn't want to go into anybody's guard. | ||
That could kill the show. | ||
So now with the threat, it's really easy to deal with upkicks. | ||
So all they gotta do is just get to their knees and start passing. | ||
They gotta engage. | ||
Yeah, just engage. | ||
Because you rarely see upkicks in MMA. Rarely. | ||
Because they're so easy to deal with. | ||
But the threat of them will keep you either away from purgatory or get on your knees and commence to passing. | ||
That's what it's all about. | ||
You were about to say Mousasi Jacare? | ||
Yeah, he knocked out Jacare with an up kick. | ||
And then triangle choked him. | ||
Yep. | ||
He fell into a triangle. | ||
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Yeah, there's been probably, I would say, seven. | |
Like seven total up kicks in history. | ||
Something like that. | ||
So, we're not adding up kicks to combat jiu-jitsu to increase KOs. | ||
We're adding it to increase the ground fight. | ||
Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
Don't stand over the guy. | ||
Let's pass. | ||
Let's go. | ||
Yeah, let's get to it. | ||
That's smart. | ||
Super smart. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, I love combat jiu-jitsu. | ||
I love the rule set. | ||
I love what it does. | ||
It opens up the reality aspect. | ||
You understand that you can't just do certain things. | ||
You're going to get smacked in the face hard. | ||
Yeah, it keeps your jiu-jitsu honest. | ||
That's it. | ||
Don't get too crazy. | ||
Dude, I forgot Holly Holm versus Megan Anderson. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's a barn burner, too. | ||
Yeah, it's a big fight for Anderson. | ||
It's her first shot at the UFC. And right away, Holly Holm. | ||
Is there anybody that could give Cyborg a match? | ||
A good competition? | ||
Uriah Faber? | ||
Uriah Faber. | ||
There's not a woman who's going to give her any challenge. | ||
Uriah Faber? | ||
Would it be illegal for Cyborg to fight a man? | ||
No, it's not illegal. | ||
In the Soul Me Too movement? | ||
How sick would that be? | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
That's a different... | ||
Do you know what I'm saying, though? | ||
Me Too has nothing to do with that. | ||
Me Too is about sexual assault, bro. | ||
I know. | ||
I know, brother. | ||
And I'm not saying your own favorite did that. | ||
But you paint this story. | ||
You mark it. | ||
She comes out with Me Too and just beats the shit out of a dude. | ||
Rose McGowan's in her corner. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
Fuck her up, Cyborg! | ||
Harvey Weinstein comes out of the floor right behind Uriah. | ||
CM Punk's fighting on main events. | ||
CM Punk against Cyborg? | ||
That would be great. | ||
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That's what I said. | |
Oh, you just said it? | ||
No, I said that before. | ||
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Oh, you have. | |
You want to make bank or not, bro? | ||
What would she do to him? | ||
She would knock his head off into fucking... | ||
I mean, it'd be like a cartoon. | ||
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Just goof! | |
Weren't you guys saying that guys could never... | ||
An MMA fighter would always beat a girl, right? | ||
Weren't you guys saying that? | ||
When we were talking about Ronda Rousey back in the day? | ||
I said that. | ||
He said Ronda could beat Mike Tyson. | ||
No, I said Godzilla. | ||
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I said Godzilla. | |
Did you say Ronda could be Mike Tyson? | ||
No, I'm fucking with him. | ||
He got shit for that. | ||
I'm fucking with him. | ||
Or the flying arm bar, maybe. | ||
No. | ||
He would still slam her to the ground. | ||
Even today? | ||
He's like 50. Yeah, I did a podcast and it was rough. | ||
She would be in his ass right now. | ||
But I think... | ||
Is it rough? | ||
Is he doing bad? | ||
Not doing bad. | ||
Especially as me growing up with Mike Tyson, they say never meet your heroes, so I think of him as that Mike Tyson in my head. | ||
And then when I saw him, he had sweats on and some white New Balances and he was out of shape. | ||
You got a problem with his fashion? | ||
What's wrong with New Balance? | ||
Right away, you're like, his fashion's off. | ||
Sweats. | ||
It's not a Sunday afternoon leisure time. | ||
It's the middle of the day. | ||
He was on your podcast? | ||
I was on his. | ||
You are hilarious with your fashion. | ||
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You really give a fuck that he wore sweatpants. | |
Your total respect, bro. | ||
What is it with you in fashion? | ||
That makes no sense to me. | ||
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I don't know, man. | |
I would have never brought it up. | ||
Him wearing sweatpants and New Balance. | ||
I'd be like, yeah, he wants to be comfortable. | ||
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Really? | |
Yeah. | ||
I'm not trying to fuck the guy. | ||
Show a little pride. | ||
No, I don't want to fuck him. | ||
It's like I saw... | ||
I don't get it. | ||
It's like I saw Bret Hart in Calgary. | ||
I go out and they're like, he's in the front row. | ||
I go out there and he's in matching sweatsuit top to bottom. | ||
I thought, fuck. | ||
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Fuck, bro! | |
It's Saturday night, man! | ||
You have my show! | ||
Wait, wait, wait. | ||
He's in Canada, and he's a former pro wrestler, right? | ||
That's what you're talking about? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Okay. | ||
He's in Canada. | ||
That's like a three-piece suit up there. | ||
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What are you doing? | |
What are you doing? | ||
A Saturday night? | ||
You're out on the town. | ||
You can't wear sweats. | ||
That's how they roll up there. | ||
They're just happy it's not 150 below zero. | ||
Yeah, you might be right. | ||
They're very happy. | ||
They're wearing something nice and light. | ||
I judge people, though, man. | ||
Probably a nice sweatsuit, right? | ||
It's kind of like the McGregor matching grays, you know? | ||
What the fuck is wrong with that? | ||
What the fuck is wrong with that? | ||
That looks fresh. | ||
You're crazy. | ||
You're crazy, man. | ||
Dude. | ||
I have terrible fashion. | ||
You can't listen to me. | ||
You don't, though. | ||
You have jeans. | ||
You always have a nice shirt. | ||
You have your fanny pack. | ||
Fanny packs are back in the game now. | ||
I brought that shit back. | ||
Come on. | ||
I want 10% of the credit. | ||
Fannies are back. | ||
I want 10% of the credit for bringing that shit back. | ||
I just posted this thing on Hypes. | ||
I might have more than 10% of the credit. | ||
I'm being humble. | ||
You're the guy who I know who's ride or die about fanny packs, and then Krokop still fucks with it, but he's unaware on how big of an impact he had on it. | ||
He's in Croatia. | ||
They don't know what time it is over there. | ||
They all wear fanny packs, you know? | ||
Yo, dude, I wore fanny packs back in the 90s. | ||
I never stopped. | ||
Yeah, you're first team all fanny packs. | ||
Damn, Nordeem Taleb's going off. | ||
He just picked him up and slammed the shit out of him. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No, he's good, man. | ||
Nordeem is very good. | ||
I never stopped with the fanny pack. | ||
No, you just ride through it. | ||
Even people are like, dude, Joe's fanny pack. | ||
I'm like, I know, man. | ||
There's a photo of me. | ||
Yeah, I sell the shit out of him. | ||
I'm always out of stock. | ||
My boy wants one bad. | ||
We're at Disneyland. | ||
Are we close to MMA and the Olympics? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh, we are. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
They're working on it. | ||
Yeah, they're trying. | ||
Can you imagine that? | ||
Well, it would be amazing. | ||
I can't imagine it. | ||
It would be amazing. | ||
Now, would Russia just win all the belts? | ||
What? | ||
What about Americans, man? | ||
Fucking situation. | ||
I mean, Russia would be tough, man. | ||
Well, it really depends entirely on drug testing. | ||
They'll figure it out. | ||
I mean, Russians, when it comes to boxing, combat sports, Russia's really... | ||
They're pretty fucking good. | ||
Would Dagestan be considered Russia? | ||
Well, the thing is, though... | ||
That's what I was putting under the same banner. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But the thing is, what would happen is, if it did become huge in the Olympics, then people would realize how guys like Floyd Mayweather and so many different professional boxers got their start as Olympic gold medalists and then went on to become these huge superstars in boxing. | ||
Lomachenko's another good example. | ||
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Yeah. | |
When you have a real great amateur background, people get super amped up about seeing you go pro. | ||
Andre Ward, yeah. | ||
Anthony Joshua. | ||
You get super amped up about seeing those guys go pro. | ||
In America, it's a little different, though, for whatever reason, when it comes to boxing. | ||
We don't get behind it like the other countries. | ||
But we used to. | ||
With Mark Breland, remember those days? | ||
With Tyrell Biggs. | ||
We used to love it. | ||
We used to love it when a guy was an Olympic gold medal. | ||
Pernell Whitaker. | ||
You know? | ||
Ray Mercer. | ||
We still love it. | ||
I mean, I said Andre Ward, but it's still... | ||
Look at this. | ||
Leg lock. | ||
Deontay Wilder is a bronze medalist, which ain't bad because he started boxing at like 21. Oh, shit. | ||
Anytime you hit them double outside ashies in MMA, they're risky. | ||
Well, it's such a weird position to find yourself in if a guy can punch you in the face. | ||
And again, it goes back to your combat jiu-jitsu. | ||
Oh, monta. | ||
Yep. | ||
It goes back to your combat jujitsu. | ||
You understand what positions are like super dangerous because there's positions that guys regularly practice in jujitsu that will get you fucked up if a guy can punch you in the face. | ||
Exactly. | ||
That's what it's all about. | ||
Combat jujitsu is such a good idea. | ||
Thank you, man. | ||
And it's going well, right, Eddie? | ||
It's exciting. | ||
Does the UFC being acquired by ESPN affect the Fight Pass and EBI at all? | ||
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Not at all. | |
Because are they going to continue with the Fight Pass? | ||
Oh, hell yeah. | ||
Are you sure? | ||
As a matter of fact, the president of Fight Pass, when that deal went through, emailed me personally to let me know. | ||
He goes, listen, this deal has nothing to do with Fight Pass. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Game overs. | ||
Oh, body triangle. | ||
Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep. | ||
Can you hang in there for 40 seconds? | ||
I don't think so, son. | ||
No, he's in trouble. | ||
He's got to cinch it up. | ||
He's tapping. | ||
He's about to tap. | ||
No, it's on the chin. | ||
Oh, he's out. | ||
I almost broke his jaw. | ||
Damn. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That's pretty strong. | ||
The only problem you'd have to worry about is now that people are going to have to subscribe to ESPN +, to get the full ESPN experience now, they're going to have to pay for that? | ||
And... | ||
Fight Pass. | ||
Is that real? | ||
Oh, that's real. | ||
Fight Pass doesn't really change at all. | ||
They're not getting rid of Fight Pass at all. | ||
They're not getting rid of it as far as it growing could be an issue. | ||
I think the fan base stays. | ||
How does that work though? | ||
They're gonna stream some fights still on Fight Pass. | ||
No. | ||
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What? | |
I don't think so. | ||
What do you mean? | ||
ESPN's gonna take all that content. | ||
What? | ||
Because you have, right? | ||
Because now ESPN Plus and ESPN Platform's going to have 30 fights. | ||
Then ESPN's going to have 12 pay-per-views at least. | ||
So you have 42 fights a year now. | ||
So there's no fight past cards? | ||
I could be wrong. | ||
Jamie, correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
There's no fight past cards? | ||
I don't think so. | ||
I think it's just going to be a database for stuff like Eddie's, old school fight libraries, and then, you know. | ||
That's a tough sell. | ||
That's a tough sell. | ||
I don't think it's going to grow. | ||
I think it's going to continue what it's doing. | ||
And stuff like Eddie's might grow, but... | ||
People are going to be awesome. | ||
I'll see more ESPN Plus packaging. | ||
That's a tough sell because I love it. | ||
I think Fight Pass is awesome, and if you want to just go old school and watch a bunch of great old fights, it's the best format on the planet Earth. | ||
If you're a hardcore fan. | ||
If you're a hardcore fan. | ||
But I like the fact that we would have the prelims, some fights that you couldn't see anywhere else but Fight Pass, and then they would have certain Fight Pass cards. | ||
How many times have we watched do Fight Companions? | ||
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Yeah. | |
With the entire car. | ||
But now you can do it on ESPN. Look at that shit. | ||
That is nasty. | ||
But now you can do it on ESPN Plus, Joe. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Could be. | ||
Right, but you gotta pay for that. | ||
Is ESPN Plus, is that online? | ||
You gotta pay for another thing now. | ||
That's online? | ||
It's digital. | ||
ESPN Plus is a digital app. | ||
Eddie, what could he have done to get out of this? | ||
What could he do to get out of this, Eddie? | ||
He's got to peel that arm off his neck. | ||
It's a little late. | ||
It's too late at this point, right, Eddie? | ||
Once you get to that spot, what could he do? | ||
A couple things. | ||
You've got to protect your neck, obviously. | ||
And then he's got to get up to the leg press position where he could get up on... | ||
He's doing a leg press pushing back. | ||
That'll relieve some of the pressure. | ||
And then eventually get over to the side of the cinched body triangle and try to break that shit apart. | ||
You've got to break those body triangles apart. | ||
You've got to move fast. | ||
You've got to prevent them from happening in the first place. | ||
As soon as someone takes your back, first thing is don't let it get too deep. | ||
And by too deep, that means body triangle. | ||
Don't let that shit happen. | ||
What were you going to say, Jamie? | ||
The Fight Pass thing, so the ESPN deal is U.S. only, it says. | ||
So that'd be for U.S. broadcasts only, and Fight Pass is still for the rest of the world. | ||
So that'd be the big difference. | ||
Yeah, they assured me. | ||
I didn't even ask. | ||
They said, dude, don't even trip. | ||
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You didn't ask? | |
They sent me an email saying, don't worry about it. | ||
We're not getting rid of EBI. We love you. | ||
Don't even trip. | ||
So in America, it's just going to affect Fight Pass and the UFC. Everyone else, they're good to go. | ||
But also, there's no really pay-per-views internationally. | ||
They get it for free. | ||
Like in Brazil, all the stuff's free. | ||
There's no pay-per-views in Brazil. | ||
Right, they're watching on Globo. | ||
Yeah, they get it all free. | ||
It's right there. | ||
ESPN broadcast deal that includes 10 full UFC cards or primary ESPN channels, ESPN, ESPN2, along with the prelims for a dozen UFC pay-per-view events. | ||
Another 20 fight cards will stream on ESPN +, totaling 30 full events annually between ESPN's broadcast and streaming outlets. | ||
All full fight cards are expected to have 12 bouts. | ||
Addition... | ||
Additional and shoulder UFC programs such as Dana White's Contender Series, a new all-access series, and pre- and post-fight shows and more are also included in the deal. | ||
Oh, that's interesting. | ||
No, tough anymore. | ||
Tough is done. | ||
Tough is done, from my understanding. | ||
So the Dana White's Contender Series is going to kind of be the focus now, which I think is good. | ||
It's better. | ||
Tough is done. | ||
Listen, man, making those dudes stay in that house for six weeks and all that crazy shit, I don't like it. | ||
Who are you telling? | ||
So even with DC and Stipe, who are light heavyweight champion of the world, heavyweight champion of the world, and you get the insight on those guys, even those ratings suck dick. | ||
It's just not going well. | ||
It's 27 seasons deep! | ||
It's a tired format. | ||
Yeah, everyone's just over it. | ||
And no stars come from it anymore. | ||
But the Contender Series is great. | ||
Contender Series is good. | ||
Sean O'Malley came from there. | ||
You got Greg Hardy fighting on there. | ||
Who's that guy that knocked out Tiago Alves? | ||
Didn't he come from there as well? | ||
Am I wrong about that? | ||
I'm not sure. | ||
The biggest one is Sean O'Malley, but then you're also going to have a homeboy. | ||
Why am I forgetting his name? | ||
Sorry, dude. | ||
The guy with the arm. | ||
Come on. | ||
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Nick Newell. | |
Nick Newell. | ||
12-fight win streak. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Nick Newell's going to beat the shit out of people on the Contenders. | ||
He should not be on there. | ||
You don't think so? | ||
God, no. | ||
He fought for a world title against Justin Gaethje. | ||
But it's good to get him exposure and let people know how good he is. | ||
I guess. | ||
Depends how many people are watching Contender Series. | ||
You've got some real potential talent out there. | ||
I think the real thing about what's interesting about the Contender Series is now people you've never heard of are very good. | ||
I mean, how many people do we know that are just guys in the gym? | ||
They're like, dude, that guy is fucking good. | ||
Yeah, and they just don't get a break. | ||
They never fought, or they've had one amateur fight, or something like that, but you realize, like, when you see them roll with, like, really good guys, like, holy shit, this guy's, like, just a hair below a world-class level. | ||
There's so many guys like that now, because it's such a popular sport. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
That's not what I'm saying. | ||
I'm saying he has the potential to face one of those guys in the Contender Series. | ||
See, I almost think that's the opposite of what they should be doing. | ||
Because if I'm a young dude, I'm trying to get my break in, and I'm in the Contender Series, and you give me Nick Newell, who has 17 fights, who's 17 and 1. Right. | ||
Fuck, man. | ||
Why can't I fight a young guy? | ||
And this is coming from a guy who had three fights, who fought Roy Nelson in the finale. | ||
That's true. | ||
I was like, what the fuck are we doing? | ||
You want to blow up. | ||
You got to fight. | ||
I mean... | ||
Yeah, that's true. | ||
It's not like they're fighting the... | ||
The UFC world champion, you know, you gotta get in there and prove yourself. | ||
Yeah, you gotta go in there and beat those guys. | ||
But other guys aren't fighting that competition. | ||
I see what you're saying. | ||
It should be a lower class of competition. | ||
Yeah, for someone, they're gonna be like, dude, I draw Nick Newell? | ||
Sean O'Malley was fighting guys of his same similar and blew up, just knocking dudes out. | ||
Now he's a star. | ||
Well, maybe it'll be like one or two fights and then they'll get Nick in the UFC. It should be one so they're familiar with it and then go. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
But he's going to be tough, man. | ||
If he gets into that division, he's going to be tough to beat. | ||
It's an inspiring story, too. | ||
I would market the shit out of that, man. | ||
I think they're worried that if he gets head kicked, which he's never been knocked out from the head kick, they're worried with his arm, if he can't defend it and he gets brutally knocked out, people are like, how would you... | ||
How can you put that guy on TV? Well, you gotta realize, too, think about how much your arm weighs. | ||
Like, I mean, it's not an advantage by any stretch of the imagination, but the rest of him is bigger and heavier. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, what is, I mean, how much do you think he's missing? | ||
10 pounds? | ||
You think? | ||
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No. | |
How much? | ||
How much does an average arm weigh, Jamie? | ||
That's gotta be 10 pounds. | ||
No, 8 pounds? | ||
6 pounds? | ||
Dude, I think mine is about 100. No, seriously. | ||
Guys that grapple, there's a guy that grapples without a leg, and his upper body is that of a dude that's two weight classes above the guys he's fighting. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
What does it say, Jamie? | ||
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Eight pounds. | |
Eight pounds what? | ||
The whole arm? | ||
Yeah. | ||
But that's the whole arm. | ||
An average arm weighs about 5% of your body weight. | ||
Okay, but that's the whole arm. | ||
See, Nick has the upper arm. | ||
Nick has down to the elbow. | ||
He's down past the elbow. | ||
He's about right here. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So let's say his, yeah, it's not that big of an advantage. | ||
No, it's not. | ||
There's a wrestler world champion. | ||
Oh, Jason Knight, Maquan Armand, Connie's next. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Boy, Jason Knight found some tough times. | ||
He started off super hot and then lost his last two. | ||
Well, who did he fight? | ||
He stepped way too far up. | ||
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He got Llamas. | |
Let's relax. | ||
That was a crazy idea. | ||
That was crazy. | ||
Llamas is world title contender. | ||
He's the guy no one wants to fight. | ||
He's not a huge name. | ||
He's just a fucking monster. | ||
All across the board. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They're like, okay, you beat Shaus Skelly, and he lost to Benitez, too. | ||
He lost to Mowgli. | ||
Yeah, man, it's tough. | ||
He got knocked out by Llamas. | ||
He got knocked out by Llamas, and then he comes back, and he lost to Mowgli. | ||
Performance of the night. | ||
This is a tough fight, man. | ||
Maquan Amircani might be the toughest fight out of all three of those. | ||
More than Ricardo Lamas? | ||
Dude, he's dangerous as fuck. | ||
Ricardo Lamas is... | ||
Yeah, you're right, you're right. | ||
But this Maquan Amircani is a wild motherfucker. | ||
He does a lot of crazy shit. | ||
Lamas just chills in the top six. | ||
I mean, he's just there. | ||
World class. | ||
Get some. | ||
I'm gonna have him on with his dad. | ||
Ricardo Lamas? | ||
Yeah, I've been, like, leaving him alone if he thinks I forgot. | ||
I haven't forgot. | ||
His dad is, like, a Cuban exile. | ||
His dad left Cuba, and his dad... | ||
You don't have Joey in here, too? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
His dad speaks perfect. | ||
He speaks perfect English and Spanish, too. | ||
Yeah, I know Ricardo does. | ||
Yeah, so I gotta talk to him. | ||
I just didn't want to fuck with him before his fight. | ||
He's got a big fight in Chicago. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That is very interesting. | ||
We're looking at the commercial for Miocic. | ||
Stipe versus Daniel Cormier. | ||
Great fight. | ||
Interesting. | ||
What's the latest with Jon Jones? | ||
What's going on? | ||
Dude, I wish I knew. | ||
He's still waiting to see what exact suspension is, but the word is he's gonna fight, you know, fairly soon. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
I root so hard for that dude. | ||
Me too, man. | ||
But why? | ||
Because he's a beast. | ||
A bad motherfucker. | ||
And I think in his heart, he's a very good guy. | ||
I really do. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I really believe that. | ||
Even though what? | ||
He does fucked up things and he makes mistakes, but I think John, in his heart, is a very good guy. | ||
I really do. | ||
I just think he just makes poor choices and he's wild. | ||
And one of the reasons why we love him is that wildness. | ||
I like that he's wild. | ||
Yeah, I don't like that he hurts people, but it's typically when guys act like that, I usually write them off like, fuck that, dude. | ||
But with him, he's so talented. | ||
I literally think he's the best of all time to grace the octagon. | ||
I want to see him back, and I think he comes back at heavyweight. | ||
I think he beats the brakes off Brock. | ||
I think his comeback fight is Brock, and then he fights for the heavyweight title against the winner of Stipe DC. That would be amazing. | ||
That would be amazing. | ||
Yeah, the U.S. needs that. | ||
They need that. | ||
That's what I would do. | ||
ESPN, you like this deal? | ||
Here's to 2019. Woo! | ||
Dude, I had the weirdest dream that I had shorts on with no underwear and I jerked off in my car. | ||
I came all over myself and I couldn't figure out what to do and then I had to go and meet some friends and I was outside the door and for some reason Kyle Kingsbury was in there. | ||
I got a problem. | ||
I'm like, I'm covered with my own jizz, and I don't have any underwear, and I just have my shorts on. | ||
And then I woke up going, what the fuck is wrong with me? | ||
Did you have a wet dream, though? | ||
No! | ||
Really? | ||
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No! | |
Even though you busted in your dream? | ||
No, it was the weirdest dream of all time. | ||
I've never had a dream that I jacked off. | ||
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I jerked off my car. | |
You haven't? | ||
I've never had a jerk-off train. | ||
Which car was it, though? | ||
This is a big... | ||
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Ever. | |
What car was it, Joe? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Have you had a dream where you jacked off before? | ||
I've had a dream where I'm having sex. | ||
I've busted in my bed. | ||
It's a nightmare. | ||
It's like, fuck, man. | ||
Wait a minute, you had a dream you had sex and you actually busted a nut? | ||
It's called a wet dream, Eddie. | ||
I thought those were a myth. | ||
My dream was like, I had to figure out, I was going to meet some people and apparently didn't have any underwear on, I didn't have a shirt on, and I had to crack the door open. | ||
I'm like, dude, I got a problem. | ||
You gotta help me up. | ||
And then I woke up going, what? | ||
What the fuck kind of thought is that? | ||
Where's this even coming from? | ||
It's rare I remember my dreams. | ||
It's weird you remember yours. | ||
I remember mine last night. | ||
I was walking around. | ||
I was backstage at Bellator. | ||
I was going to fight someone. | ||
I can't remember. | ||
And I was like, I'm not doing this. | ||
I remember I was like pleading to him. | ||
I'm not going to do it. | ||
I'm not fucking ready, man. | ||
I don't want to do this. | ||
I don't need this. | ||
I'm like arguing with someone. | ||
I'm like, go out there. | ||
I'm like, no! | ||
No! | ||
That's a weird thing. | ||
That's like one of them, I gotta go back to high school and graduate things. | ||
Yeah, that was strange. | ||
Did you ever have those dreams? | ||
Oh, the time. | ||
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I used to have nightmares. | |
Oh, you could never remember your locker. | ||
The combination for your locker. | ||
Like, how do I open this motherfucker? | ||
My nightmares were credits. | ||
I was too many credits shy of graduating high school. | ||
They were making me go back another year. | ||
You're like, no! | ||
Wait, you graduated high school? | ||
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Yeah. | |
I did, but you remember when you were in high school, there was always that one dude that somehow or another fucked up and had to repeat his senior year. | ||
Oh, dude. | ||
So he's 18, everybody else is 17, this fucking dude is in high school with you. | ||
He's the Jeep Wrangler. | ||
He's just sad. | ||
He's losing the year of his life. | ||
It didn't work out. | ||
I have this recurring nightmare that I don't think it's supposed to be a nightmare. | ||
I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but it always turns into a nightmare because when I used to DJ at strip clubs, I had a good time. | ||
It was always fun. | ||
And then I dream about it. | ||
I dream about it. | ||
And the problem is... | ||
To be a strip club DJ, you got to know your CDs and the girls that are going up and you're matching up the songs with the girls. | ||
You got to be sharp. | ||
Because they all want their different songs. | ||
Exactly. | ||
So in my dream, I think it's supposed to be a great dream, but I can never read the CDs and the managers getting mad at me. | ||
I'm like, what girl's on stage? | ||
And the only CD that I remember, the only one is The Crystal Method because that was my go-to CD. No other CDs. | ||
I'm like, oh, I could always pull that one out. | ||
As your default? | ||
Yeah, because, you know, you got to change the song every two minutes and 45 seconds because every song means money for the club. | ||
They're all getting lap dances. | ||
So if you let a song go three and a half or four minutes, the manager will get on your ass. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
It's three and a half minutes. | ||
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It's stressful. | |
It's very stressful. | ||
So if there's a girl, a girl's bus about to go on stage and 15 seconds before she goes on stage, she goes, skip me. | ||
I got a lap dance and we're over. | ||
You fucked up, bitch. | ||
I'm like, oh shit. | ||
I got 15 seconds to find a replacement and to change the music. | ||
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I got a playlist. | |
I got a playlist. | ||
Yeah, so in my dream, I'm having a fucking nightmare. | ||
I'm like, I can't see the girl on stage, and I can't see my sissies. | ||
It sounds like a nightmare. | ||
Yeah, it's a total nightmare. | ||
I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to get fired. | ||
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What am I going to do now? | |
I never figure, in my dream ever, do I realize that I make money teaching jiu-jitsu. | ||
Never. | ||
It's always, I lose my job, and I'm like, what am I going to do now? | ||
And then I wake up, and I'm like... | ||
I teach jujitsu. | ||
I'm fine. | ||
You're the one in between the tracks. | ||
Like, all right, ladies and gentlemen, bring up Dandy on stage seven. | ||
No, but he never did it that way. | ||
He didn't have the fake strip club. | ||
Oh, no, no, no, I did. | ||
You have to have the fake. | ||
No, you have to have it. | ||
You have to because if you talk regularly to the main stage, no, it was always, it was always my Simpsons DJ strip club voice. | ||
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All right, guys, put those hands together for London. | |
See, that's kind of cool. | ||
No, but you have to say, you have to do that goofy voice to cut through. | ||
Otherwise, people can't hear you. | ||
If you just get on a mic in a strip club and you just talk like... | ||
Hey, Kelly's on table seven over there. | ||
It won't cut through. | ||
It won't cut through. | ||
Well, not only that, like, it has to have some drama to it, right? | ||
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Oh. | |
You can't just go, oh, here's Monica. | ||
Yeah, she doesn't like doing this job, but here she is. | ||
No, you got to. | ||
You got to have that. | ||
Check her out. | ||
Here's Lindsay. | ||
She's got some unfortunate tattoos. | ||
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Goofy. | |
She's a really sweet girl. | ||
Hopefully she'll find a good guy and leave this job. | ||
Kelly's made some terrible decisions. | ||
Check her out. | ||
Table three. | ||
That back tattoo is unfortunate, but... | ||
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No, you got to go all out. | |
Listen, help her out. | ||
She's had a rough childhood. | ||
She's been in 25 foster homes. | ||
Just hook her up. | ||
Just hook her up. | ||
Jason Knight. | ||
Tough motherfucker. | ||
They're calling the country Diaz. | ||
Look at that fucking nose, man. | ||
That nose is taking some punches, son. | ||
Remember his nickname, The Country Diaz, because he's very similar to Diaz Brothers? | ||
Minus the domestic abuse charges. | ||
Well, very fucking... | ||
That domestic abuse thing is a bummer, man. | ||
We don't know the facts, though, do we, Jimmy? | ||
Well, one of Nick's guys sent me something. | ||
His friend? | ||
Yeah, dating some crazy girl. | ||
Doesn't count! | ||
Doesn't count! | ||
When your friend goes on, he goes, she's actually a stalker and really good... | ||
He's a really good person. | ||
I'm like, well, fuck, thanks, bro. | ||
Jason Knight, nasty off his back. | ||
Yeah, great card. | ||
Nasty card. | ||
Quick. | ||
He's an Alan Belcher student. | ||
Alan Belcher's jiu-jitsu is pretty awesome for MMA. This kid's been talking so much shit. | ||
Maquan, Americani, Mr. Finland. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
Remember Alan Belcher versus Rusamar Poharis? | ||
When he beat the shit out of him. | ||
That was one of the greatest fights of all fucking time. | ||
Yeah, well, everybody was scared of that. | ||
Dude, I saw him a week late. | ||
I was right in there. | ||
Dude, he had Rusamar in a twister, man. | ||
He went into it. | ||
I saw him a week later, and I was so impressed by it, I scared him. | ||
You thought he was Mike Tyson. | ||
I was like, bro! | ||
He's like, Jesus Christ. | ||
What you did was insane, man. | ||
It was insane. | ||
Especially at the time. | ||
He had Roussimar in a twister. | ||
He had him in the truck. | ||
Almost finished him. | ||
Roussimar gets out, has Alan Belcher in all sorts of leg lock trouble, and Alan Belcher just dismantled all that shit and beat the fuck out of him. | ||
He brought in Dean Lister, and who else? | ||
Was it Tom DeBlas? | ||
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Who else? | |
No, he brought in, for that fight for a month, he brought in Dean Lister and Davi Ramos, who's in the UFC. Davi Ramos. | ||
Davi Ramos is really good at leg locks, too. | ||
Davi Ramos is a beast. | ||
He had Dean Lister and Davi Ramos on his legs for a month. | ||
He said the first two weeks he tapped out probably 500 times, but then he started to learn how to stop the leg locks. | ||
It took him a month. | ||
Then he went into it, beat the shit out of it. | ||
Then he made a DVD called Immunity, How to Stop Leg Locks. | ||
That's right. | ||
Remember that immunity? | ||
Alan Belcher? | ||
Look, he's over there talking. | ||
Dude, I'm telling you, Homeboy's talking so much shit. | ||
When they did the post, you know Wayne's when they always interview him? | ||
He was like, I'm going to beat the shit out of him. | ||
He was going hard in the pain. | ||
Jason Knight did? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, Jason Knight is one of the few fighters in the UFC where they can't show his flag. | ||
Because his flag's got the fucking rebel flag on it. | ||
Mississippi still has the Confederate flag in their state. | ||
Yeah, they're proud of that shit. | ||
Jamie, can you get the fight on that screen as well, please? | ||
That is crazy. | ||
That is fucking crazy. | ||
It says Fight of the Night written all over it. | ||
This big-ass screen right here. | ||
Bashab, why y'all turn around? | ||
My neck's all stiff. | ||
What are we doing here? | ||
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You okay? | |
Look at that one right there. | ||
Right there, look. | ||
Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
We've got three screens in here. | ||
This is like a goddamn sports bar. | ||
It's like we're at Buffalo Wild Wings minus the wings. | ||
This is a very, very interesting fight. | ||
And they hate each other. | ||
So, Amir Khan has been talking crazy shit, huh? | ||
Oh, dude. | ||
He's going so hard in the paint. | ||
He goes, this is a long trip for you to come just for one round to get knocked out. | ||
She's going super hard. | ||
I think he's just trying to get him emotional. | ||
Is he from England? | ||
Yeah, does he live in England? | ||
No, he lives in Finland. | ||
At least he did for a while. | ||
I don't know. | ||
They used to call him Mr. Finland. | ||
I think, yeah, Knight's the underdog here. | ||
Well, I mean, it kind of has to be after those two losses in a row. | ||
But Americani was a guy who burst on the scene a few years back. | ||
And, you know, was really promising, but we haven't... | ||
People don't talk about him much. | ||
No. | ||
You know? | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Oh, jump on him! | ||
Oh, look at that! | ||
See, guard! | ||
Americana, this isn't what he wants. | ||
You don't want to get in these scrambles and this straight-up cockfight with Knight, man. | ||
That's what he wants. | ||
He pulled guard, quit! | ||
He's talking shit to him. | ||
He's talking shit to him. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Oh, please don't do that. | ||
He's controlling his biceps and talking shit to him. | ||
Yeah, don't do that, though. | ||
Oh, good posture. | ||
Yeah, he did a good job at avoiding any kind of guard attacks. | ||
Yeah, the way he did that by planting down those biceps are very smooth. | ||
Bicep control, and then he postured up at the perfect time, broke through those legs. | ||
He's been doing his homework. | ||
Yeah, and he's telling them that too. | ||
You ain't getting shit off on me. | ||
That snake tattoo hanging over his shoulder is interesting. | ||
It's like Mandy to the main stage. | ||
Yes, it's very similar. | ||
Thanks so much. | ||
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Just talking, shit. | |
He got hurt. | ||
He got hurt. | ||
He's trying to get emotional. | ||
Those jabs are touching him. | ||
He was having a problem with that eye. | ||
Dude, he has a lot of scar tissue on his face. | ||
If you look at his face, it looks like a Great White's nose. | ||
It's just all sort of shit all over his face. | ||
Well, that style. | ||
I mean, that crazy bulldog style. | ||
Doesn't really work these days, man. | ||
Once you get to upper echelon level. | ||
It works until you can't take a shot anymore. | ||
It works and it doesn't. | ||
Because your face just gets smashed in too much. | ||
It works. | ||
Then we get the technicians like, all right, cool man. | ||
Like Justin Gaethje. | ||
Exactly. | ||
All right, that's what you want to do? | ||
Cool. | ||
Yeah, guys just are smart. | ||
Maquan just keeps looking for that right hook counter, and he's doing it real nice. | ||
I like what he's doing. | ||
I like his jab, too. | ||
Oh, there you go. | ||
Oh, guillotine. | ||
Oh. | ||
Americani's a good wrestler, too. | ||
Is he? | ||
Yeah, very good. | ||
That's his background. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
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Okay. | |
He just keeps more of that. | ||
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Damn, look at him. | |
He's talking shit. | ||
He's comfortable in there. | ||
Did that leg kick hurt him? | ||
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You think? | |
That inside one? | ||
It always hurts. | ||
That thing sucks. | ||
Especially when you get kicked right above the knee. | ||
It's a fucking terrible feeling. | ||
It just feels like you're hoping your ligaments stay together, and they do. | ||
They almost always do, but every time you get hit, they're like, shit! | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Damn, wheel kicks. | ||
Dude, how about Amanda Nunes kicks against Raquel Pennington? | ||
Pennington said that first kick, she had surgery on that leg. | ||
Oh, shit, dude! | ||
He stomped right on that knee and folded him a little bit. | ||
You see that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's throwing a nice variety of kicks. | ||
I like that. | ||
Yeah, well, he's got to do that. | ||
Guys that are fighting today, there's a whole bunch of them. | ||
They don't throw really any kicks still. | ||
They're still out there and they don't throw anything. | ||
Isn't that crazy? | ||
At the lighter levels, they kind of mix it all up. | ||
You shouldn't mix it up at all levels. | ||
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The heavyweights don't though. | |
The light heavyweights, heavyweights don't. | ||
Because you know what? | ||
I love Damien Maia fucking more than any other fighter out there. | ||
I think by now he should... | ||
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Oh! | |
Oh, shit! | ||
Oh, damn. | ||
Damn. | ||
He should have stayed on top. | ||
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Why did he do that? | |
He should have stayed on top. | ||
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The fuck? | |
He's still hurt, though. | ||
He's still hurt. | ||
Amir Khan, he's still hurt. | ||
He got fucked up by that shot. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
He cracked him. | ||
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Oh! | |
He did it again! | ||
Oh shit! | ||
Dude, what the fuck is he doing? | ||
He likes fighting off his back. | ||
He likes it. | ||
He's recovering. | ||
Yeah, but look, he's in mission control here. | ||
This ain't bad. | ||
This ain't bad at all. | ||
He can go dead orchard right there. | ||
All he's got to do is triangle his legs. | ||
Just triangle his legs. | ||
That's all he's got to do. | ||
Oh shit. | ||
If he triangled his legs, he'd get him in a dead orchard. | ||
Does he know it? | ||
He's singling out that arm. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Yeah, he knows it. | ||
But what he's trying to do is clear the neck. | ||
That's the main thing he's trying to do. | ||
He's trying to get to Invisible Collar at this point. | ||
Or some kind of meat hook or something. | ||
That's stupid. | ||
There it is. | ||
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He's got him! | |
Oh, he got out! | ||
Shit! | ||
Look at that, Darth! | ||
Guilty, go for it. | ||
Ten seconds. | ||
Couple shots! | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
Look at him, look at him. | ||
That was fucking awesome. | ||
You ain't talking shit anymore. | ||
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God damn! | |
How about he start talking shit? | ||
How about he start talking shit again? | ||
No, I think he said he did good. | ||
What's wrong with this kid? | ||
Oh, you went to the wrong corner. | ||
Damn. | ||
They both did. | ||
They both fucked up. | ||
That was awesome. | ||
Everybody getting braced. | ||
Jason Knight caught him with some good shots, dude. | ||
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Damn. | |
Heard him bad. | ||
Fuck. | ||
Heard him bad. | ||
Come on, Chase. | ||
With 40 seconds left to fucking go down to guard, like, I don't care if you like it or not, it's a bad idea, man. | ||
You almost had him in a triangle. | ||
Listen, man, if that fight was two minutes longer, he could have caught him in something. | ||
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It's not, though. | |
They were scrambling. | ||
He got to the top. | ||
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30 seconds? | |
He was on top of him. | ||
You know how hard it is to get a finish guy in 30 seconds? | ||
It all depends on the situation. | ||
You like it? | ||
I like it. | ||
I like it all. | ||
If pulling guard is so suicidal, like people say... | ||
I'm not saying it is. | ||
I'm a fan of it. | ||
Why is it so hard for Damien Maia to pull guard? | ||
He'll sit on his butt and people don't want to get on top of him. | ||
They make him stand up. | ||
Oh, look at that! | ||
Look at that! | ||
Because that's literally the only way he can win. | ||
Look at this! | ||
Boom! | ||
Damien Maia can't win any other way. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Round two. | ||
Amir Khani got fucked up in that first round. | ||
Ooh, look at Knight. | ||
Dude, he's still confident, but he's a little bit like, ah, fuck. | ||
And Amir Khani's still taking big, deep breaths. | ||
Dude, he got hurt bad. | ||
That one uppercut really fucked him up. | ||
Anyone else just rootin' hard as fuck for Knight? | ||
Yeah, right now. | ||
Right? | ||
I don't like the smirk on McHoney's face. | ||
He's a tough guy. | ||
I like watching him fight, but I also like a guy coming back from two fights down. | ||
Dude, you lose three in a row, it'd be tough. | ||
His career would be in trouble, man. | ||
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You can go to 1FC. How dare you. | |
Dude, 1FC's putting on some good fucking shows. | ||
Come on, boys. | ||
They are. | ||
1FC's awesome. | ||
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I like it, too, but compared to the UFC. And then there's Bellator, too. | |
He's not done. | ||
Yeah, but the problem with 1FC is just about exposure. | ||
They've got some great TIE fighters over there. | ||
In Asia, 1FC is huge. | ||
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Huge. | |
Huge. | ||
Dude, it's giant. | ||
It reaches like a billion households. | ||
Yeah, Ben Eskin's a huge star. | ||
No, that didn't work out. | ||
In Asia he is. | ||
Oh, look at this. | ||
Yes, he's in Asia too now, son. | ||
Yeah, it is, but 1FC, I'm telling you, Brendan, it is very big overseas. | ||
I know it's big. | ||
I know it's big. | ||
If you're not in the UFC, it's a tough go, man. | ||
It is. | ||
It's a tough go, but I think 1FC is catching up in Asia. | ||
I mean, they're bigger than Bellator is over there. | ||
Bellator doesn't really do Asia. | ||
Exactly. | ||
But that's our number two, right? | ||
Our number two in America is Bellator. | ||
Bellator's getting bigger, right? | ||
It's bigger. | ||
I mean, they're in Europe. | ||
They obviously just had that card in London. | ||
Well, with their heavyweight tournament they're doing, they're killing it right now. | ||
Really? | ||
In the ratings? | ||
Yeah, you got Chael Fedor coming up. | ||
You got Ryan Bader, Mitrione. | ||
Well, they need a heavyweight champion. | ||
You got Michael Venom Page. | ||
It's crazy that they don't have a heavyweight champion. | ||
You can have one now, end of the year. | ||
Yeah. | ||
There ain't that many big guys, man. | ||
If it's Ryan Bader, it could be issues, right? | ||
Because he's a light heavyweight. | ||
And he's the light heavyweight champ. | ||
But maybe he fights better at heavyweight than he does at light heavyweight. | ||
True. | ||
Did you see Phil Davis' head kick KO? That was crazy. | ||
Phil Davis looks good. | ||
That was nasty. | ||
Amir Khan wins it. | ||
Night talking shit now. | ||
He has some confidence. | ||
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Man. | |
Americani got that nice jab and hook combo. | ||
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Look at that. | |
Yeah, that right hand. | ||
He just looked for that hook. | ||
Oh, he clipped him. | ||
Damn, he's got a good right hook. | ||
Oh, nice uppercut, too. | ||
He mixed it up. | ||
We're missing Callan right now going, God, these guys are sweating. | ||
Why doesn't he just hit him with the right hand? | ||
Callan would be like, why doesn't he just throw? | ||
No, Callan would go, you've got to keep your hands up. | ||
Why doesn't he throw the front kick? | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
We tagged him again. | ||
Oop, he's hurt. | ||
Guillotine. | ||
Guillotine coming in hot. | ||
Nope, pass. | ||
Nope. | ||
Again. | ||
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He can't get his leg up. | |
Triangle on the body. | ||
He's doing a good job at defending. | ||
You wouldn't give that first round 10-8, would you? | ||
No. | ||
Maybe. | ||
He knocked him down. | ||
Maybe with the new rules. | ||
What's the new rule? | ||
The new scoring system. | ||
What is it? | ||
The new scoring system is when you show a clear advantage. | ||
You'd have to have someone look at it, but a clear advantage... | ||
Is the difference between winning and winning clearly. | ||
He clearly won that first round. | ||
I would have to look at it, like how they frame it now. | ||
I think we have a real problem being imprisoned by that 10-point system. | ||
I think the 10-point system is stupid. | ||
Preach. | ||
What do you think about recently? | ||
There have been a bunch of early stand-ups from the ground. | ||
Well, the Leon Roberts one with Damian Maia and Usman was ridiculous. | ||
What are you talking about with The Wizard? | ||
Ridiculous. | ||
Dude, he had his back. | ||
That was super ridiculous. | ||
That's someone not knowing what's going on. | ||
Not only that, I mean, you're dealing with a fighter that is taking a fight on last-minute notice against a super-dominant wrestler, and he essentially is in a great position and could maybe get his back. | ||
And that's his biggest advantage? | ||
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Yeah. | |
You fucked him. | ||
Americani takes him down now. | ||
Here. | ||
Yeah, he fucked. | ||
There was another fight recently when they were on the ground and the guy was like side controller of the mount and the ref stood him up. | ||
Like, what the fuck is that about? | ||
On that same chili card, there's also in the girls fight where the female referee let them just stay on their butt with no engagement. | ||
I'm like, stand them up, man. | ||
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Right. | |
No, obviously she doesn't want to be down there. | ||
She does. | ||
No one's interacting. | ||
Let's go. | ||
Jason Knight, he's got a fucking wicked mission control. | ||
He pulls to that mission control. | ||
He's got mead hook right now. | ||
He could hit a triangle right here. | ||
Mead hook. | ||
Look at that. | ||
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Boom. | |
I mean, Connie ain't doing shit on the ground either. | ||
He's not getting... | ||
I mean, he might be doing okay defensively, but he's not getting shit off offensively. | ||
No, he's threatened nonstop down there. | ||
Which, to me, should be a win for Jason Knight. | ||
Jason Knight going for a leg lock here. | ||
Have you thought about it? | ||
Americani, outstanding. | ||
He's losing. | ||
And so he goes to the ground. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Leg lock right here. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
It's like a round apiece. | ||
Maybe? | ||
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Maybe. | |
I don't know about that. | ||
Just take down a lone one? | ||
The judges for sure give him that to Americani. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's 1-1. | ||
Yeah, 1-1. | ||
But he didn't do anything with him on the ground. | ||
Like, zero nothing. | ||
He still took him down, though. | ||
He still took him down. | ||
It sucks, though, because Jason Knight was doing work and threatening him the entire time on the ground. | ||
Get the gift to Americani. | ||
He's on the defensive. | ||
The flaws in our judging is insane. | ||
It's fucking insane. | ||
I feel like it should be like a 100-point system. | ||
I feel like there should never be any stand-ups. | ||
Five-minute rounds, there should never be any stand-ups. | ||
Yeah, I'm with you. | ||
Why are you standing them up? | ||
Never? | ||
Never. | ||
Five minutes? | ||
I agree. | ||
By the time they get to the ground, there's not any get-downs. | ||
If it's boring on the feet, they're not... | ||
They're not doing what they do in wrestling. | ||
Tough shit. | ||
That's just the fight. | ||
That's just the way it goes. | ||
Get the fuck out of here. | ||
You're going to get a chance in four minutes to get back up to the feet when the round's over. | ||
Because what happens, Brendan, this is what happens. | ||
If they stand them up because they're holding, then guys, why would they learn jiu-jitsu? | ||
If they get taken down, if a striker gets taken down, all you got to do is get good at holding and the ref's going to stand them up. | ||
That's what it leads to and it fucks the sport up. | ||
Round three. | ||
You can't have that. | ||
That gives a striker a reason to not learn jiu-jitsu and just hold and look to the referee to stand him up. | ||
That fucks up the sport. | ||
Or you just learn wrestling and keep winning by just holding him down. | ||
One takedown, the fight's over. | ||
Then you've got to learn how to fight off your back. | ||
You've got to learn how to fight. | ||
I agree with this. | ||
You've got to push the sport. | ||
You can't go backwards. | ||
Look at Amerikani looking for a takedown again. | ||
Standing up the fight, that takes everything backwards. | ||
It makes it so you don't have to learn jiu-jitsu. | ||
If the guys are trying to win the fight, though, it's an issue, man. | ||
You could say the same thing about them standing. | ||
That happens all the time standing. | ||
No one says shit about that. | ||
We can't put them to the ground. | ||
Why not? | ||
We do it in combat jiu-jitsu. | ||
We have get-downs, baby. | ||
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Get-downs? | |
We have get-downs. | ||
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Get-downs. | |
I'm not mad at that. | ||
In two minutes, if there's no take-down in two minutes, we get them down. | ||
Remember when this was illegal? | ||
These kidney strikes were illegal? | ||
They're not illegal anymore. | ||
They should do more of those when a guy has someone's back. | ||
Remember how Hickson used to do that to the stomach? | ||
Why don't they do that? | ||
That opens up the neck. | ||
People forget about it. | ||
They don't even think about it. | ||
Yeah, it's true. | ||
It opens up the neck. | ||
Dude, those are some serious kicks to the stomach. | ||
No one does it. | ||
Especially when you're breathing hard. | ||
Nobody does it. | ||
They never do it. | ||
Okay, he's trying to create some space. | ||
Amir Khan, he's a strong wrestler, man. | ||
He's got to hit a flying kung fu here. | ||
This guy's too greasy. | ||
His face is good. | ||
Oh, triangle. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
He had it for a second. | ||
He's trying. | ||
He's trying to throw some shit up. | ||
There it is. | ||
John Cavanaugh keeps throwing some shit up. | ||
Cavanaugh's in whose corner? | ||
Americanis? | ||
Must be, huh? | ||
Yeah, 100%. | ||
But of course. | ||
How's your boy Dan Hart? | ||
Do you still talk to him, Eddie? | ||
Are you in touch with him at all? | ||
I haven't talked to him in a while, but he seems to be doing great as the commentator. | ||
Yeah, he's doing great. | ||
He's really good at it. | ||
He's got a book out, too. | ||
What does it say? | ||
Like Half Reptile or something like that? | ||
50% Reptile? | ||
I forget what his name is. | ||
Mixed martial arts on conspiracy theories. | ||
I think of his life. | ||
He's got to go for a triangle right here. | ||
I think it's about him. | ||
It's all conspiracy theories. | ||
Part reptile. | ||
And it's about his life story or something? | ||
UFC, MMA, and me. | ||
Part reptile. | ||
God, I feel like it's a bad name for a book. | ||
I don't know, maybe he's got a rationalization for it. | ||
Damn. | ||
Lizardman. | ||
This is a terrible position for Jason Knight. | ||
He's losing. | ||
But Amir Khani is not doing jack shit. | ||
It doesn't matter. | ||
But Jason Knight is threatening off of his back. | ||
It's close. | ||
There we go. | ||
You guys call it the crackhead? | ||
That's actually New York crackhead right there. | ||
Like, what is our mayor Connie gonna do here? | ||
He's trying to stack them and just pressure through and just survive here. | ||
Look at him. | ||
He's talking shit like he's not doing anything. | ||
This is what you guys want it though. | ||
Yeah, I want it. | ||
Yeah, I like this. | ||
I don't want them to stand it up. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
He stood him up right when we were talking about Mark Goddard. | ||
How dare you? | ||
Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
Jason Knight was complaining though. | ||
Jason Knight was going, dude, he's not doing shit. | ||
He wasn't doing shit. | ||
That is true. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
How dare you stand him up for action? | ||
How dare you? | ||
There's action on the ground! | ||
Well, I like this action. | ||
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Oh! | |
Oh, he stunned him. | ||
He stunned him. | ||
Omerikani, please quit taking him down. | ||
Well, he wants some points. | ||
Well, he's getting them. | ||
I mean, that's literally all he's been able to do in this fight other than that couple of jabs he landed in the first round. | ||
True. | ||
Knight's been beating him. | ||
Stand up. | ||
Oh, he's going for the leg lock. | ||
That's a tough sell. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's got to do something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He might be losing this now. | ||
Oh, dude, for sure he's losing this fight. | ||
But it's weird. | ||
He's losing the fight, but what the fuck has Amir Khani done? | ||
Taking him down. | ||
But that's it. | ||
Is that enough? | ||
There it is. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Triangle right there. | ||
Triangle, triangle. | ||
Is just being on top enough? | ||
When the guy on top isn't doing shit but defending, he got the takedown. | ||
But it's not good enough. | ||
It is in our current sport. | ||
But how much of this should be scored with Jason Knight controlling off of his back and going for submissions versus Amir Khani literally here doing nothing. | ||
Zero. | ||
But he has top control, right? | ||
But his control, though. | ||
He's just on top. | ||
He doesn't have any control. | ||
Yeah, but he's not doing anything but holding him in the spot. | ||
But Jason Knight's not landing. | ||
He's at least trying to be offensive off of his back. | ||
Americani is literally doing nothing. | ||
All he's doing is holding on here. | ||
That's what you guys wanted. | ||
That's part of the sport. | ||
There he lands a shot. | ||
That's good for him. | ||
That's good for him. | ||
But Jason Knight is being way more active. | ||
Americani's throwing a few shots there. | ||
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Passed. | |
Yeah, now he passed. | ||
I'm with you, man. | ||
But the way they score. | ||
Look out for Jason Knight's neck. | ||
Amir Khan has this fight easily. | ||
Ooh, he could have a 10-finger choke, yeah. | ||
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You remember that? | |
What is that fucking... | ||
That step over... | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Oh, he hurt him. | ||
He hurt him. | ||
Amir Khan hurt him. | ||
Is that a legal knee, though? | ||
I think it was a punch that hurt him. | ||
I think the knee was to the body, wasn't it? | ||
Was it? | ||
There it is. | ||
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Oh... | |
No, Americani definitely won this fight. | ||
I don't think he's going to win any fans in this fight. | ||
Eddie, what's that technique? | ||
Goddammit, I can't... | ||
You've got one arm under the arm, one arm over the top, and you step over with the legs. | ||
You know that move. | ||
Fuck. | ||
Peruvian necktie. | ||
I call it a ten-finger choke. | ||
I forgot the peruvian... | ||
Well, isn't a ten-finger choke the one when it's in the chest? | ||
You got him in the chest, and you have the head planted in the chest. | ||
We would call it the 10-finger choke, say Peruvian necktie. | ||
For whatever reason, we'd call it the 10-finger choke. | ||
Well, Tony D'Souza is the reason why everybody calls it the Peruvian necktie, because he's from Padu. | ||
Yeah, and there's a Peruvian darts as well, too. | ||
Oh, there it is. | ||
He was out, out, huh? | ||
Look at that. | ||
I got pissed so hard. | ||
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Boom. | |
He knocked him down twice. | ||
Yep, twice. | ||
So was it a 10-8 round, that first one? | ||
It could be a draw. | ||
It could be a draw. | ||
I can see that being a 10-8 round. | ||
It could be a draw. | ||
Is this guy from the UK? No, Finland. | ||
Oh, he's not from the UK. So, hey, maybe... | ||
We traded with Kavanaugh. | ||
Nah, I bet Jason Knight loses the fight decision. | ||
Could be. | ||
Could be. | ||
Interesting Damn What do you think? | ||
They're probably going to give it to Murakami. | ||
What's his name? | ||
Amir Khani. | ||
Yeah, they'll probably give it to him. | ||
He got the takedowns. | ||
He didn't do anything on top, but those takedowns count. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Now, is that the co-main? | ||
Do you remember that guy? | ||
I think the first guillotine master in MMA was that little pequeno guy. | ||
Do you remember him? | ||
He used to fight and shoot a little Brazilian guy. | ||
His name was Antonio Nogueira. | ||
Pequeño? | ||
How did I forget about him? | ||
Dude, he guillotined so many motherfuckers. | ||
I think he was an Andre Penedaris guy from Nova Union. | ||
Remember him? | ||
He was a guy that if you shot in on him, he was going to guillotine you. | ||
And he had his own special 10-finger guillotine. | ||
I don't know exactly how he did it. | ||
Everyone's got their own little modifications for guillotines because you really can't see the grip. | ||
When you get a guillotine, the grip is actually hidden. | ||
It's hard to tell what kind of guillotine you're putting in. | ||
Even with the high elbow guillotines, the marcelotene, it's hard to tell if you're holding it like this or like this, because the grip is hidden. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Secret guillotines. | ||
And the way that Pequeño Nogueira did it... | ||
Man, I still don't. | ||
I still... | ||
I don't remember. | ||
It's a weird little secret grip. | ||
Did you ever get into the pretzel grip? | ||
Were you big on that weird grip where the palm of the bottom hand is facing outward and the palm of the top hand is facing towards you? | ||
That's a great... | ||
That's a great grip if you get your hands together. | ||
That's a great grip. | ||
But the reason why Marcello, instead of going here, he goes here. | ||
That's the difference. | ||
When you go here, you need your palms to meet. | ||
So if there's a guy here, and I'm trying to guillotine him, the first thing he's going to do is bring up his hands like this. | ||
He's going to defend a guillotine like this. | ||
His first move is going to be to come between your hands, right? | ||
So if you could beat his hand, then you're good. | ||
Then this is amazing. | ||
But if you don't beat his hand, then the guillotine is lost. | ||
But if he comes up and blocks it like this, and I come around the back of my hand, he's still fucked. | ||
So it's a false sense of security. | ||
Split decision. | ||
I'm Erkani. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Does that make sense on the grip? | ||
Yes, it does. | ||
Also, too, like the same as like with a rear naked. | ||
It's like if you can keep that hand flat, it's easier to slide it up in there than if you got it like this where it's harder to get it underneath the chin. | ||
I'm not too sure about that. | ||
With the guillotine, it's just a lot of people do it with the pretzel grip here. | ||
But you gotta get your hands together. | ||
With the Marcelo Garcia variation, it doesn't matter. | ||
Their hands are gonna come up, they think they're safe, but we're going behind our own hand. | ||
So that's when Marcelo was fucking people up with that on the daily. | ||
Black belts were going, what the What the fuck is going on? | ||
I'm defending the guillotine and I'm still tapping. | ||
Right. | ||
It was the grip. | ||
What'd they give it? | ||
Split decision. | ||
Amir Khani. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's tough for... | ||
Yeah. | ||
What are you gonna do? | ||
You say Cap Swanson? | ||
Is that what he said? | ||
That's not a good move for him. | ||
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No. | |
Cub Swanson's on another level. | ||
Who's he calling out? | ||
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I don't know. | |
He's calling Jimmy Manoa right now. | ||
Saying something to Jimmy Manoa I never see crazy guys like this I What's the next fight? | ||
He's talking about an old story with Jimmy Manilow to the rest of the crowd. | ||
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Remember that time we saw each other in the bar with a gold necklace on? | |
Amazing. | ||
Arnold Allen vs. | ||
Mads Burnell. | ||
Show up the card. | ||
Pull up the card. | ||
He's probably delirious from that uppercut. | ||
Aljamain! | ||
He's trying to get a fight with Dominic Cruz. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker, Al Jermaine. | ||
I like how he bounced back from that Marlon Marais fight, too. | ||
I know. | ||
He bounced back. | ||
Dude, Marlon Marais vs. | ||
Jimmy Rivera coming up. | ||
I think that's next week. | ||
That's a motherfucking fight. | ||
Yeah, it is next week, right? | ||
Is that next week? | ||
Think so? | ||
It's a fight night. | ||
Dude, we need to have a fight companion for that motherfucker. | ||
What day is that? | ||
Jimmy Rivera is a motherfucker. | ||
He's a beast. | ||
What day is that? | ||
Is that Saturday? | ||
June 1st. | ||
Friday night? | ||
June 1st? | ||
I'm in town. | ||
You in town? | ||
I'm in town. | ||
Let's do this. | ||
I'm trying to get weird. | ||
Son? | ||
By weird, I mean sit and talk fights. | ||
Oh. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Fuck yeah, man. | ||
Let's do that. | ||
Is Callan in town? | ||
Callan's hustling right now, getting ready to do his special, right? | ||
Shooting his special in July. | ||
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Woo! | |
I'm opening for him. | ||
In Chicago. | ||
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Woo! | |
He's ready. | ||
He's ready. | ||
He said he's amped up. | ||
Best he's ever been. | ||
That's awesome. | ||
Your boy, yeah, hopefully he gets picked up by Netflix or Showtime. | ||
Your boy Joey Diaz last night. | ||
On fire. | ||
Just flamethrower. | ||
I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
He's on fire right now, man. | ||
He's on fire. | ||
I just put, Jesus Christ, Joseph. | ||
Still fucking around, too. | ||
Still trying new shit on stage. | ||
Well, he was telling me that. | ||
Because Netflix, some of the references he has, they're like, you can't say this. | ||
You need to change to this. | ||
So he's messing with that. | ||
How to hit the joke. | ||
Still using that context. | ||
What references are they... | ||
I don't want to give away stuff. | ||
Okay, yeah. | ||
Eddie, are you around next Friday? | ||
The 1st? | ||
June 1st? | ||
What you doing next Friday night, son? | ||
Next Friday I'm in San Francisco with Sam Tripoli. | ||
You should cancel it. | ||
What's happening? | ||
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You should cancel it. | |
Fight campaign. | ||
You're looking at it. | ||
Friday? | ||
Jimmy Rivera versus Marlon Marais. | ||
Son. | ||
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That's going to be a good fight. | |
That is a good fight. | ||
Jake Ellenberger, Ben Saunders. | ||
A couple of the old two's going at it. | ||
I mean, if I didn't have that spot in San Francisco, I'd be cornering Ben. | ||
You're doing a lot of stand-up, man. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
Not a lot. | ||
Not a lot. | ||
Enough. | ||
Like, I see your name up there. | ||
Not like a real comedian. | ||
Real comedians go out all the time. | ||
I'm like below an open-miker, you know what I mean? | ||
Are you enjoying it? | ||
I love it. | ||
I love it. | ||
The show we did Friday night in the Bellroom, that was the most fun I've ever had, man. | ||
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Really? | |
That was so much fun. | ||
It's so crazy seeing you do stand-up. | ||
It was so much fun. | ||
Is it all just conspiracy theory stand-up? | ||
Because I know you guys are calling it tinfoil hat conspiracy. | ||
Is that just because of the podcast name? | ||
It's more designed to... | ||
There's a lot of conspiracy theory comedy in there, but it's not like 100%. | ||
You take fan questions too, right? | ||
So you can go hard in the paint? | ||
Yeah. | ||
At the end, we do a question and answer type of like a mini podcast thing. | ||
Yeah, it's fun. | ||
Friday night at the belly room was so much fun, man. | ||
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It was awesome. | |
That belly room is such an amazing room. | ||
That's the truth serum room. | ||
Because if your jokes are like fat, if they have too much extra words in them, if they're too fake, if they come off corny, that room just highlights it. | ||
You can feel it. | ||
I always like to run my material in that room before I do anything big. | ||
Joey did his show at the... | ||
I've never been in that room in the Ice House. | ||
Not the big room. | ||
It's almost like the belly room. | ||
Yeah, that's where he did it? | ||
Yeah. | ||
That room's amazing. | ||
I've done that a couple times with Joey, too. | ||
That's a great one. | ||
That's a great room. | ||
When I opened for Joey, I love it because it's probably 90% Latin. | ||
And I love telling Mexican jokes. | ||
I got so many Mexican stories. | ||
It's just all fun. | ||
There's no conspiracy theories going on with those crowds. | ||
His crowds are like 90% Latin? | ||
Really? | ||
Joey's? | ||
Not last night, was it? | ||
No? | ||
It seemed like it was when, like in Ontario. | ||
Oh, well, Ontario's 90% Latin. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That was a lot of fun. | ||
Ontario's a great room. | ||
Ontario, Levity, Moxnard, a lot of Latin. | ||
I did Bert Kreischer's podcast last week, and he said that... | ||
Because of you, he said that he was telling you that Russian mafia story and then you said you should do it on stage and then he did it and it blew up, that Russian mob story. | ||
And then I remembered, I go, you know what, Joe told me to do that bleeding asshole story on stage. | ||
I had a problem with blood coming out of my ass. | ||
So I told him how I fixed it. | ||
And he goes, dude, you gotta do that on stage. | ||
And I'm like, no way! | ||
My first reaction was like, fuck, no, I'm not gonna talk about that on stage. | ||
But I did it Friday, and it went over well. | ||
Dude, it's a funny story, man. | ||
When you told it, I was howling and laughing. | ||
It's funny how, like, you say that, like, oh, you should do that bleeding asshole story, and people are listening, like, what the fuck is wrong with these guys? | ||
Come on, man. | ||
It's not just a matter of, like, how you were telling me the story, and when you were telling me the story, I was cracking up. | ||
I mean, I am not a comedy snob by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
I like comedy. | ||
I like things that are funny. | ||
And if it happens to be funny for X, Y, or Z reason, I don't care. | ||
I just want... | ||
I like to laugh. | ||
I like funny shit. | ||
I don't believe that there's certain subjects that should be off limits. | ||
It's just a matter of how you approach the subject. | ||
If it's a part of life... | ||
The problem is a lot of subjects are tainted because a lot of people do bad comedy that's like cheap and easy and they use those subjects instead of because the subjects are interesting and they have like a real valid point they use those subjects because they know it's gonna get a cheap laugh like a cheap fart joke or a cheap you know whatever kind of joke there's there's a bunch of cheap jokes but then there's like A real-life situation where you have to shit your pants. | ||
Ari Shafir had a fucking hilarious joke about there was a bridge across in Sydney. | ||
This is a crazy bridge. | ||
It's like two miles long or something. | ||
You walk across it and he was halfway across the bridge and he had to shit his pants. | ||
And he told this story and he had an agent at the time told him, That's a shit joke. | ||
You gotta stop doing that joke. | ||
And Ari looked at him and he goes, yeah, we're not gonna work together anymore. | ||
He just got rid of him. | ||
Just got rid of his agent. | ||
He's like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
Because he told me about it and I go, what? | ||
I go, that guy told you to stop doing that bit? | ||
Because it was a real story. | ||
I was with him. | ||
We were together in Sydney. | ||
That's what makes it funnier. | ||
But it was a real story where he had to shit his pants, and he was a mile into it, and it was killing. | ||
Killing. | ||
And his stupid-ass agent was like, you know, that's a shit joke. | ||
Shouldn't do a shit joke. | ||
Because he doesn't get it. | ||
Because he hears when people are talking about just, like, cheap... | ||
Why would you listen to an Asian on your material? | ||
Agent, not an Asian. | ||
No, no, agent. | ||
You said Asian? | ||
Did I? Yes. | ||
It's early. | ||
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Ha! | |
Why would he listen to an agent or an agent? | ||
He didn't, but when, look, there's two stages of your career, right? | ||
There's a stage where other people try to tell you what to do. | ||
They're like, what you need to do is wear a tie. | ||
What you need to do is change your act. | ||
What you need to do is go clean. | ||
I went through all that shit, too. | ||
And then there's a stage where they just leave you the fuck alone. | ||
Ari is now in that leave you the fuck alone stage. | ||
That's because he's successful. | ||
Because he's successful. | ||
When you're successful, you can say what you want to do. | ||
But a few years back, he was in that you might make it, you might fall apart stage in an agent's eyes. | ||
Like agents look at you and they go, man, I don't know, Eddie, you might be able to make it, but you're going to have to change some things. | ||
Change the way you dress, change your hair. | ||
Drop the bleeding asshole story. | ||
The bleeding asshole thing is alienating fans. | ||
And they get it in their head that they know how to fix your act. | ||
They're almost always wrong. | ||
They're almost always wrong. | ||
Ari's hilarious. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We have the same agent. | ||
He doesn't tell either one of us shit. | ||
Ari doesn't give a fuck now. | ||
Ari is like my favorite example. | ||
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I don't even think he has a phone. | |
He's got a flip phone. | ||
But he's my favorite example of a dude who got money, got some fame and some wealth and got some success and just said, fuck you. | ||
I'm doing whatever I want. | ||
Yeah, Bert was saying touring-wise, he was taking some time off. | ||
He's going somewhere now. | ||
Does he want toys? | ||
He just needs a certain minimum and that's all he cares about. | ||
He hits that and he's out. | ||
He made his monthly nut, or his yearly nut, he said, in the first couple weeks of the year. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He just did a bunch of theaters and some good dates. | ||
Burt Kreischer? | ||
No, Ari. | ||
Ari. | ||
Shit. | ||
Burt's a beast, too, though. | ||
Well, Ari's got a fucking low overhead, man. | ||
He doesn't have a car. | ||
He lives cheap. | ||
I mean, he's just... | ||
He keeps that way. | ||
He's still in New York? | ||
Yep. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's hilarious. | ||
He doesn't give a fuck, man. | ||
I mean, and he loves traveling. | ||
He loves traveling. | ||
He's material from it, right? | ||
Well, it's not just that, man. | ||
He just really enjoys going to different cultures. | ||
I mean, he went to fucking Asia, dude. | ||
Like, Asia, Asia. | ||
Hostels and shit. | ||
Staying in places where, like, 18-year-old backpackers go. | ||
I was like, you're in danger? | ||
It's not ever. | ||
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I'm like, what? | |
I'm too scared to do that. | ||
I wouldn't want to do that. | ||
Well, I don't think it's dangerous. | ||
I mean, I think it's rarely dangerous, but I think any kind of travel... | ||
I mean, I'm talking about traveling to a bar in, you know, Canoga Park could be dangerous. | ||
You know, you hear about it in a story, Brendan shop, Joe Rogan go to a bar in Canoga, Joe gets stabbed by some crazy person. | ||
Oh, don't go to Canoga Park. | ||
That's not what it is. | ||
It's just like life is occasionally dangerous. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I don't think those hostels are... | ||
Most of those hostels are just college kids that are just traveling abroad and looking to see the world. | ||
I've always been scared of hostels when my brother stayed in Europe and said he woke up someone sucking on his toes. | ||
That's scary. | ||
I thought it was in your dick. | ||
I was scared of it because of those horror movies. | ||
The Hostel? | ||
The Hostel horror movies. | ||
That movie's fucking terrifying. | ||
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Terrifying. | |
Part two's even worse. | ||
Turista? | ||
Dude, Hostel is so gory. | ||
Hostel is brutal, man. | ||
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Dude. | |
How easy is it to lure those 18-year-old backpackers that are going across Europe? | ||
So easy. | ||
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I don't think it's that easy. | |
Dude, all you gotta do is get hot chicks, point out the dudes, the hot chicks would drag them into some shit, put some drugs into their drinks, and boom. | ||
A lot of work on fucking two 50-year-olds and a 35-year-old, a hot chick. | ||
Where are we going? | ||
Backpackers. | ||
Yeah, forget about when you're 20. When you're 20, you fuck a warm hole in the wall. | ||
No, but I'm saying it's easy. | ||
That's how they got them in the hostel. | ||
They just send chicks after them. | ||
That's easy. | ||
Chicks work out every day. | ||
They'll fall right into it, man. | ||
Chicks with drugs and a drink, and it's over. | ||
But I think for a lot of those people that travel like that and live like that, it's got to be very hard to settle down. | ||
Once you get used to just traveling and doing drugs and partying places and... | ||
I feel like that movie doesn't end well for those people. | ||
There's no, like, real stability. | ||
Oh, I mean the life movie. | ||
No, I mean the life movie. | ||
Everyone has their own movie plan right now. | ||
No, it definitely doesn't end well. | ||
I mean, maybe start a pottery business or some shit. | ||
Fucking pottery? | ||
Did you ever watch this movie? | ||
Look at this. | ||
What is this one? | ||
This is another movie that Eli Roth made. | ||
He also made Hostile. | ||
It's called Green Inferno. | ||
I did see this where they eat each other. | ||
Did they get eaten by cannibals? | ||
Yeah, they go down, like, to Brazil or somewhere. | ||
Some... | ||
It's always Brazil. | ||
No, this was Brazil. | ||
It was like some remote location in the jungle. | ||
I was actually a little disappointed in this. | ||
The trailer, I was like, oh shit, this makes me sick. | ||
Yeah, what's that picture of the head in the upper left-hand corner? | ||
There's some crazy shit that happens in the movie. | ||
Dude, send me that. | ||
Send me that, a text message. | ||
Man, don't you think, like, Brazil would be pissed? | ||
Like, dude, tourism is down 8,000% because of these fucking movies. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Shit happens there. | ||
Shit does happen there. | ||
But you know what? | ||
Still, maybe Brazil's like, slow the fuck down with these goddamn movies. | ||
They do have the biggest rainforest in the world. | ||
I mean, they do. | ||
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The fucking Amazon's there. | |
Amazon's crazy. | ||
I couldn't believe... | ||
I texted Tim Kenney last night. | ||
I couldn't believe when he was talking about all those Nazis. | ||
Dude! | ||
What the fuck? | ||
How crazy is that in Argentina? | ||
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What in the fuck? | |
They flew from Germany to fucking Argentina. | ||
That's a true story. | ||
I texted him too. | ||
I went, dude, you did the greatest promo... | ||
How many German cities are there? | ||
You did the greatest promo ever for your Discovering History Channel show. | ||
Because I really was... | ||
I love Tim, but I don't watch that much TV with that stuff. | ||
Dude, I'm in. | ||
Those Germans that live in Argentina. | ||
How many cities? | ||
How many villages? | ||
I don't know, but hundreds of thousands of people. | ||
And you go to the village, this is in Argentina, and it's all German. | ||
The architecture, we go into their house, it's all fucking German. | ||
Pull up some images of it, Jamie. | ||
They don't speak a fucking lick of Spanish. | ||
They wear lederhosen, they're drinking giant steins of beer. | ||
And they're so proud of their Nazi history. | ||
Yeah, that's what's creepy. | ||
How about he goes, you know what built that land? | ||
Jews fucking, their cavity fillings, their wedding rings. | ||
That's what built that land. | ||
So what do you do? | ||
I got so upset, man. | ||
And then when he's talking about how they would torture kids, I stopped listening after that. | ||
I'm out. | ||
Well, he was talking about how Mengele and a lot of the SS soldiers went to Argentina and continued a lot of their torture experiments, and that they had met some of the people that had been tortured by these SS guys. | ||
Horrific, horrific shit. | ||
Set them on fire, just the worst shit you can imagine. | ||
Just to see what they could do. | ||
I went to Argentina like 10 years ago, and I swear, I swear to God, I've never been to a country with so many beautiful women. | ||
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It was unbelievable. | |
You see like 10 at a time, 13, they're like everywhere. | ||
And you would think it would be easy to pick them up, but it's super hard because they have no faith in men. | ||
Because the men there, like prostitution is legal. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They know that there's no reason for a guy to get committed. | ||
So they don't trust guys. | ||
So they're like just... | ||
That was my experience. | ||
They just like hang out. | ||
They hang out with each other and they just cock block each other. | ||
They hang out with each other and cock block each other. | ||
They travel in packs. | ||
They're everywhere. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
Don't say anything crazy while I'm gone. | ||
I'd love to go to Argentina. | ||
But you watch this. | ||
It's crazy, man. | ||
And Tim said he'd go there and they're so proud of their Nazi grandfather and stuff like that. | ||
And Tim's like, what the fuck, man? | ||
It's crazy. | ||
Crazy. | ||
No, not a lick of Spanish anywhere. | ||
And Hitler may be, you know. | ||
Yeah, Joe asked him, he goes, if you had to decide right now, did Hitler die in that building like history tells you? | ||
And this is Tim Kennedy. | ||
He's never told a lie in his life. | ||
He goes, nope, history's wrong on this one. | ||
Dang, and he'd be so happy. | ||
About what? | ||
That history's wrong. | ||
History is often wrong. | ||
That's what I'm saying. | ||
If Tim Kennedy approves it, it's fucking... | ||
We're going sizzler. | ||
Tim Kennedy's never told a lie in his life. | ||
Are you sure? | ||
No, dude. | ||
Tim Kennedy's... | ||
I mean, he's as American pie as it gets. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
I love that guy, man. | ||
I cried because I thought he was going to die one time. | ||
I love him. | ||
Yeah, doesn't he have a crazy show where he tries to kill himself? | ||
They try to kill him. | ||
What's the name of that show? | ||
What's it called? | ||
It's like some show where someone almost dies. | ||
He goes in an avalanche, jumps out of a plane. | ||
Yes, yes. | ||
Bullfighting. | ||
Hard to kill. | ||
Hard to kill. | ||
Tim Kennedy. | ||
Damn, that's a Steven Seagal movie, isn't it? | ||
Yeah, it is. | ||
Terrible movie. | ||
I was a fan as a kid. | ||
But yeah, and then he also has Hunting Hitler on History Channel. | ||
Damn. | ||
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Damn. | |
He's a beast, man. | ||
And then he's still serving, doing secret missions and killing people on the side. | ||
His side chick's killing ISIS. That's what he does. | ||
What? | ||
He's still active special forces, going on projects and shit, killing people. | ||
For real? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
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Damn. | |
Dude's another level. | ||
Can't wait for this main event, man. | ||
Is it next? | ||
This car's kind of bullshit, man. | ||
God, dog. | ||
That magnified's next. | ||
Well, thanks for that. | ||
So how's stand-up going? | ||
It's good, man. | ||
Grinding. | ||
Every weekend you got something? | ||
Yeah, six spots last week. | ||
I got four this week. | ||
Netflix approached you for a special? | ||
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Nope. | |
Not yet? | ||
Not yet, man. | ||
I have a little ways to go. | ||
And you've been doing comedy now for a year? | ||
Two years? | ||
Two years. | ||
Two years. | ||
It's been two years. | ||
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Shit. | |
Two years. | ||
Really? | ||
I've been doing Live Fire and the Kids for over three years. | ||
That's where it started. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Damn. | ||
For some reason, I thought you were doing stand-up for a year. | ||
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You've been doing it two years. | |
My first spot was at the Comedy Store. | ||
I haven't written my phone. | ||
I'd have to look. | ||
Comedy Chaos Night? | ||
No, they gave me a spot in the belly room. | ||
You may be the fastest rising comedian of all time, right? | ||
Like with zero stand-up experience and then all of a sudden you do stand-up and now you're fucking playing all over the world making loot, right? | ||
It's good. | ||
You're getting paid, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Dude, that's incredible. | ||
I don't know if it's the fastest of all time. | ||
You could be, dude. | ||
Generally, you grind for about 10 years until you pop. | ||
Yeah. | ||
If you do at all. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But I think you can do the Charlie Sheen route where if you have some sort of fall and you do shows and people are like, this sucks, and it'll come back. | ||
I think the sign of it is that you can come back if you sell tickets to places you've been before. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
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Yeah. | |
So they know it's not a gimmick. | ||
That's the big thing. | ||
Yeah, it's incredible, man. | ||
Either way, it's incredible. | ||
Congratulations. | ||
Thanks, brother. | ||
Fuck, dude. | ||
Thanks, man. | ||
I was hanging out with Joe in the comedy scene for many, many years. | ||
I've seen comedians just eat shit, crash, come and go, never make it. | ||
Same guys from 15 years ago still trying to make it. | ||
Same material. | ||
What you're doing is incredible, man. | ||
Thanks, brother. | ||
It's unheard of. | ||
Thanks, man. | ||
Sam was telling me you were killing it the other night. | ||
I had a good set Friday night. | ||
That's what he said. | ||
It came together. | ||
It was the first set I did not stoned. | ||
That's good. | ||
So I decided, you know what, unless you're really good at something, you shouldn't be smoking weed and doing it. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
And until you're super confident and you got your shit down, don't smoke weed. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
So I decided to try it out, like, not smoke weed. | ||
And go on stage and see what happens. | ||
I heard it went good. | ||
It went better. | ||
That was probably my best set so far. | ||
And then you guys were at Cobbs on Friday? | ||
Friday at Cobbs in San Francisco. | ||
Have you done Cobbs yet? | ||
Never. | ||
I've been there a bunch with Joe. | ||
Love Cobbs. | ||
Back in the day. | ||
The best. | ||
You've been there a couple times? | ||
Twice now. | ||
Headline? | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Fuck, dude. | |
Twice now and then I'll be back. | ||
Do you sell it out? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
That's 400 seats. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Goddamn. | |
Damn, dude. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Then we do, Saturday, we do Sacramento, The Punchline. | ||
So that's a smaller, I think that's like 150, 200, something like that. | ||
But yeah. | ||
God, this is sick. | ||
San Fran, too. | ||
Until I get my shit together, I'm going to go on stage clear-eyed. | ||
I think that's the smartest route, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And then later, once I feel super confident in my material... | ||
How much material do you have right now? | ||
My problem is I have way too much material. | ||
And it's just scattered everywhere. | ||
All these ideas. | ||
Every day. | ||
I have new ideas, but they need to be organized more and fleshed out. | ||
And that's what I did for this show, too. | ||
I decided, you know what? | ||
There's just so much, and it's overwhelming. | ||
I just took three pieces. | ||
Boom, I go. | ||
I'm just going to stick to these three pieces. | ||
Focus on those to cut it out, carve it out. | ||
Yes, exactly. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Sam's great at helping with that too. | ||
At first I was writing everything out and then Joey told me, he goes, dude, you're at your best when you don't write it out and you just go off the cuff. | ||
So Joey told me, just have ideas but don't write anything out and just go out there and try it. | ||
And I did that and I think that for me... | ||
You know Friday, I just had powerpoints and a couple lines like okay This line is kind of funny and that line's kind of funny and then I just went off and just kind of just Went for it. | ||
It worked out great worked out Samson. | ||
I just doing ice house last night with Sam said it went good. | ||
Oh cool cool Do you guys write your material out? | ||
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Yes. | |
Do you write material out? | ||
Well, you know what? | ||
Because hanging out with you for fucking 20 years in the comedy clubs, you always stress. | ||
You've got to write shit out. | ||
You've got to write shit out. | ||
You tell every company you write shit out. | ||
So that's what I was doing. | ||
I was writing everything out. | ||
And Joey told me, he goes, right now, maybe you shouldn't write shit out. | ||
Just go out there and just free ball. | ||
Just have some ideas. | ||
And I said, are you sure? | ||
And he said, yeah. | ||
So I did a couple spots with him at the... | ||
Ontario Improv. | ||
And those are two of the best shows I've done with Joey. | ||
So I decided to do that. | ||
Instead of write everything out, maybe write out the funny, you know what I mean? | ||
But just kind of go out there and three ball. | ||
Are you repeating the same set over or are you doing new sets every time? | ||
Every set's mixed up different. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
So you have to carve out. | ||
The bullet points are like, say if you had a bid on building a table, whatever. | ||
It's the bullet points, the funny parts you have memorized. | ||
Yeah, the line. | ||
Memorize the funny. | ||
And then the way you set it up, you're going to have to kind of... | ||
I kind of just go for it. | ||
So it's more natural. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Because if you start memorizing shit, it takes away from... | ||
The spontaneity. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It just doesn't... | ||
It's not funny. | ||
You can find it in there, though. | ||
The spontaneity. | ||
Even though you have a structure, you can play with it. | ||
The one thing that I've learned, for me, anyways... | ||
I still watch Chappelle over and over. | ||
Just like, you know... | ||
For me, like the latest Chappelle, when he tells a story and he's telling you like a 10-minute story of how shit went down, to me that's the funniest shit. | ||
An actual, real event. | ||
Like the mafia story. | ||
The Russian mafia story with Burt Kreischer. | ||
It's an actual story. | ||
And you see how real it is when he's describing it. | ||
Instead of trying to make up a joke and trying to find funny, stick to funny stories. | ||
And then from there you could kind of, you know. | ||
You know Joey shooting on a Monday night in Vegas. | ||
Yeah, and they're shooting six of them not six of so there's six comics 30-minute specials Right, but big Jay Oaksins in that who's hilarious. | ||
Yeah, Christina P Thompson, there's wife's is in that that's interesting that she's doing that because she just did I wonder why blowing the fuck up. | ||
I know but why not? | ||
Trying to get that extra blow up. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But with Joey, yeah. | ||
And then they shoot two 30 minutes for him. | ||
He shoots on Monday night in Vegas. | ||
Some room in Vegas. | ||
But when you do those 30 minutes, because I'm used to dealing with you. | ||
I'm like, oh, and you're like, I'm going to shoot it here. | ||
This is what's happening. | ||
And you have saying marketing. | ||
With that, it's different. | ||
You're shooting here. | ||
That's how long it's going to be. | ||
This is where. | ||
This is your time. | ||
Different animal. | ||
Yeah, it's a different animal for sure. | ||
Brendan's selling out cobs in San Francisco by himself. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
You know, that's fucking huge, man. | ||
He sold out the Wilbur in Boston. | ||
The what? | ||
The Wilbur Theater in Boston. | ||
It's 1,100-something seats. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
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Goddamn. | |
I told him he's probably one of the fastest rising comics coming from never doing stand-up. | ||
I mean, who else is there, really? | ||
Um, ever. | ||
Ever. | ||
Right? | ||
No, ever. | ||
Ever. | ||
That's what I'm telling you. | ||
From never doing stand-up to selling out theaters in two years. | ||
Did you know this? | ||
Crazy. | ||
I mean, it's incredible. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
And doing, like, fucking an hour and killing. | ||
Like, you put in the work, dude. | ||
What I tell other young comics, I say, pay attention to him, because this is what happens when a person takes pro-athlete type of discipline and applies it to stand-up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
That discipline is everything. | ||
That work ethic and discipline, that's everything, man. | ||
It changes the whole game because a lot of comics are funny, but they're fucking lazy. | ||
They're fucking lazy. | ||
That's why you're dealing with guys who do the same material year after year after year and they never do specials. | ||
There's a bunch of those guys that are really talented guys. | ||
They never bother to record anything because they don't want to have to write. | ||
They don't have to rewrite. | ||
It doesn't make sense to me. | ||
We talk about work ethic and stuff like that. | ||
I see these other comedians who maybe aren't doing it, but like, Don't you see the guys like Rogan and Burr and D'Elia? | ||
You want to do what they do, right? | ||
Oh, look at this. | ||
Oh, he's got a guillotine. | ||
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It's over. | |
Oh, tap. | ||
Damn. | ||
Nasty. | ||
It's the same with fighting, Joe. | ||
It's like, you look at GSP, it's like, he's doing this and this. | ||
Don't you want to be like that? | ||
Should probably follow that plan. | ||
But people get scared, man. | ||
But here's the thing. | ||
You get scared, and then you finally get some tools, right? | ||
Like, say if you have an act. | ||
Like, you put together an act, and you're, like, before you're ready to film a special, The idea is that your act is killing, right? | ||
So if your act is killing, you've got it molded and honed. | ||
You don't want to let that go. | ||
Like, I've got to let it go. | ||
I can't wait to let it go. | ||
I've got to kick it aside. | ||
But if you don't do that, you don't keep getting better. | ||
But here's the thing. | ||
One thing that I've learned, even though there's a lot of fear in letting go of that old material, you always write new, better material. | ||
Because you're a better comedian now. | ||
You understand comedy better. | ||
More experience. | ||
Yeah, so you're just going to do better. | ||
For me, letting go of that Bruce Jenner bit, God, that was so hard. | ||
Because of the special? | ||
Yeah. | ||
But I couldn't do that if my life depended on it right now. | ||
I don't know how it works. | ||
I don't know the beats. | ||
And I wouldn't do it right. | ||
But when you get to a point when you get a bit so tight and so finely tuned, that's when you gotta let it go. | ||
And then you move on to the next one. | ||
And I've got some shit now that's killing harder than that bit. | ||
It did. | ||
But when I first started doing, you know, a year ago, a year plus ago, when I first released that Netflix special, and then I went right into writing new material and doing new material, it was all on shaky legs, man. | ||
And a lot of people don't like that shaky legs feeling. | ||
You get real scared. | ||
But you gotta go through that. | ||
You gotta go through that. | ||
And that's what makes you grow and continue to get better. | ||
But you know one of the things that helps me a lot? | ||
That Jeremiah Watkins show. | ||
That stand-up on the spot. | ||
Dude, that is a fucking farm for material. | ||
So much fun. | ||
Because people yell, like, someone look at you and go, uh, hurricanes! | ||
And you're like, man, hurricanes. | ||
And then you start talking shit. | ||
And every now and then you'll say something and it's like, ah! | ||
And the crowd knows. | ||
Like, you know, you're just riffing. | ||
They know you're not shooting specials. | ||
So everyone's pretty loosey-goosey, and they'll yell, like, strippers! | ||
I'm like, what about them? | ||
You know, like, you have fun with it. | ||
It's amazing, dude. | ||
It's an amazing resource. | ||
To have those shows where someone just yells. | ||
He used to call it Thunder Pussy. | ||
They used to do it in the Ice House. | ||
The Thunder Pussy's a great name for it. | ||
It's so intense. | ||
Just so silly. | ||
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Stand up on the spot and it says, I mean... | |
But, yeah, I've been doing that show for years. | ||
That's helped me a lot. | ||
And I told Jeremiah, you were telling me how you got bits from it. | ||
And it's the same thing with fighting. | ||
Like, if you're in the training room, you know how this is. | ||
There's one guy who's fucking, he's really good. | ||
And, you know, maybe he tapped out last time. | ||
You don't mean to avoid him because it's going to be the toughest round. | ||
Like, I'll just go over here. | ||
That's how I was with Jeremiah on Stamp on the Spot. | ||
I was like, man, I know my stuff. | ||
I write all my stuff. | ||
I know what I want to do here, and I can't have fun with that. | ||
Yeah, it's hard. | ||
And I kept canceling on him. | ||
He would text me, like, this week? | ||
I'm like, yeah, for sure. | ||
Then the next day I'm like, dude, I'm swamped. | ||
I'm like, that swamp? | ||
And then I told him, like, hey, next time you ask me to do it, no, I'm lying to you. | ||
I need to do this because I'm scared of it. | ||
What's the show called? | ||
Stand Up on the Spot. | ||
Jeremiah Watkins, Belly Room. | ||
I think there's a show. | ||
When does he do that? | ||
Every Tuesday night? | ||
Yeah, Tuesday night. | ||
Stand Up on the Spot? | ||
Yeah. | ||
No, not every Tuesday night. | ||
No, not every Tuesday night. | ||
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Once a month. | |
Yeah. | ||
Once a month. | ||
I'm saying I think it's this Tuesday, by the way. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
I would try that. | ||
Am I going crazy? | ||
I thought he said, because I was trying to do three spots in a night, and I go, hey, you have to stand up in the spot. | ||
He goes, no. | ||
Because I went Lafracture Comedy Store, and I was trying to get another spot. | ||
I don't think it's until June. | ||
Honestly, I think he just did it, and I was out of town. | ||
No, I was on his last one. | ||
When was that? | ||
How long ago? | ||
Two weeks ago? | ||
Yeah, so the next one would be like two weeks. | ||
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All right. | |
That sounds like fun. | ||
Oh, it's the best. | ||
June 12th. | ||
There you go. | ||
Tuesday, June 12th. | ||
I fucking love it, man. | ||
It's really fun, and it's always packed, too. | ||
Yeah, it's packed, and again, the crowd knows what's going on. | ||
You did that for a while after your shows. | ||
You would do that question and answer, and there was nothing anybody could have yelled out that you couldn't tie into some past bit. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
There wasn't anything. | ||
Yeah, it's better though. | ||
The stand up on the spot thing is better because it's not that. | ||
It's not past bits. | ||
It's all just off the top of your head. | ||
You can't do material. | ||
No, they tell you no material. | ||
It's got to be new shit. | ||
Some people have done it and done their act too. | ||
The crowd gets mad. | ||
They know. | ||
They know what's up. | ||
You can tell what's off the top and what's up. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Dude, remember when we did fan Q&A at Wilbur? | ||
So I did my show, and then, you know, Boston, it was late, and, you know, the dudes were drunk. | ||
One guy kept, like, heckling Joe, and Joe just fucking went nuclear on the guy. | ||
I was like, typically isn't how my fan questions go, but fucking... | ||
In a scarf on? | ||
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Dude! | |
I lit that too on fire. | ||
What the fuck are you doing? | ||
You lit him on fire. | ||
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Dude. | |
All right, well, that's it for big questions. | ||
Way to go, fuckface. | ||
Well, he was just trying so hard to get attention. | ||
It was just so ridiculous. | ||
I've witnessed many, many people getting torched by Joe. | ||
It's awesome watching Joe, because Joe... | ||
He doesn't want to release until the guy, it's clear, 100% he deserves it. | ||
So a guy will yell and he's like, calm down, everything. | ||
And inside he's like, keep going. | ||
He doesn't want to feel guilty. | ||
So when Joe decides to go off, it's over, son. | ||
There's no way. | ||
Joe with a mic, forget it. | ||
Joe without a mic, you're still fucked. | ||
With a mic, you have no shot. | ||
I saw Dane Cook go hard on these two girls in the front row. | ||
When? | ||
I was at the comic store last Tuesday night. | ||
Oh my god, they went and quit talking. | ||
And he's like, honey, he's trying to get through a story. | ||
And it was a longer story. | ||
You could tell he's doing new material. | ||
He's trying to get through it. | ||
They kept interrupting. | ||
He's like, I can go in on you if you want. | ||
Say another thing. | ||
And she goes, another thing. | ||
He goes, you want to do this? | ||
And then just fucking... | ||
I mean, it was just brutal, man. | ||
It made the show, though. | ||
Because he did about 20 minutes of it. | ||
There's a lot of fucking heckling at the Comedy Store lately. | ||
A lot of people want to become a part of the show. | ||
That's a terrible idea. | ||
Warning. | ||
There should be a warning warning. | ||
Oh, there's two girls in the front row the other night just drunk and sloppy and talking really loud. | ||
You know, like you're on stage and you hear them and you try to ignore them, but then you see the rest of the crowd going like this. | ||
Oh, that's when you have to... | ||
You have to. | ||
You see people turning towards them. | ||
You're like, alright, I gotta play copier. | ||
Most of the time, the store's on top of that. | ||
Big time. | ||
Which is a new thing. | ||
In the old days, yeah. | ||
The way I got good at heckling, at hecklers, one of the big ways is there was no crowd control at the store. | ||
I mean, zero. | ||
Mad Max. | ||
Because in the old days when I used to go there, the fucking comedians were all doormen and security. | ||
Everything was all comedians. | ||
It's not that anymore. | ||
Now they have like legit security, like big guys that take care of everything. | ||
People have earpieces on. | ||
They're in control of everything. | ||
When the store picked up the business... | ||
Like, about three years ago, when it really took off, three, four years ago, that's when they go, okay, look, this place is sold out every fucking night, and then a guy got murdered there. | ||
There was a murder on the front porch. | ||
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What?! | |
Yeah, a guy got shot to death on the front porch. | ||
Yeah, it was some gang-related type thing. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Some guy did something to somebody, and apparently the dude who got killed, he had some really dark shit on his Facebook, too. | ||
Pictures of people tied up and shit. | ||
And they murdered him. | ||
They shot him right on the front porch. | ||
And from then on, they put a super intense security system in there, cameras everywhere, hired real security everywhere, and ramped up the place. | ||
Stop letting people walk into the parking lot. | ||
That was a big one, too, because people would just stroll into the parking lot. | ||
And these drunks, people would be backing up their cars. | ||
People would be getting hit by people's cars. | ||
What a shit show. | ||
It was a shit show. | ||
What do you think is going to happen to the comedy store now that Mitzi's passed away? | ||
Do you think that... | ||
Polly's gonna sell it? | ||
No, the business is better than ever. | ||
The thing about it is, it's sold out every night, and it's making a lot of money. | ||
Like, if you go to the comedy store on a Tuesday night, you're gonna have a sold-out main room, 400 people. | ||
Sold-out OR, 170 people. | ||
Sold-out belly room, 80 people. | ||
I mean, that is big money. | ||
But every night, two shows a night, oftentimes... | ||
That's why I was gonna say, two main room shows every night are both sold out now. | ||
Thousands and thousands of people funneling into that place as far as like from the beginning of the shows that started at 8 o'clock till 2 o'clock in the morning people are buying drinks. | ||
Is it enough money? | ||
Is it enough money to keep it running? | ||
Fuck yes. | ||
Yes, it's very profitable. | ||
It's making more money now than in the history of the club. | ||
Never made more money. | ||
Ever. | ||
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Damn. | |
So it's a viable... | ||
I mean, it's crazy. | ||
It's all within the last three and a half years. | ||
Three and a half, four years. | ||
All since you've been back. | ||
Yeah, it all just, boom. | ||
It took off. | ||
This podcast blew it up. | ||
Yep. | ||
Single-handedly. | ||
You coming back. | ||
A big part of it. | ||
And they don't deny it. | ||
I talked to the management there. | ||
They don't deny it. | ||
I asked them, like, what do you think's the cause of this boom? | ||
He said, Joe Rogan. | ||
They all said, Joe Rogan. | ||
Huge part of it. | ||
And then you have all the comics coming through. | ||
It's the golden age of comedy right now. | ||
Yeah, it's also the talent there. | ||
There's so much talent there. | ||
It's crazy how good those shows are. | ||
I mean, you look at the lineup sometimes and you're like, what the fuck? | ||
Dude, I ran over because Patton Oswalt's doing stand-up again. | ||
I ran over to see him because he's there for the whole week. | ||
And usually he's a New York comic. | ||
He's just up at the OR and went, friggin' Tom Papa. | ||
Patton's usually a New York comic? | ||
What do you mean? | ||
Yeah. | ||
He lives out here. | ||
I know, but he was in New York for a while when he was starting his stand-up. | ||
I only saw him posting about New York. | ||
I was like, I can't wait for him to come back here. | ||
Oh, when he started doing it again? | ||
Again, yeah. | ||
I saw him doing spots in New York a lot. | ||
Interesting. | ||
Yeah, and I saw him back here. | ||
He's a good guy, man. | ||
Yeah, it went Tom Papa, Patton Oswalt, then Rogan, then Delia. | ||
I mean, nuts. | ||
Top five guys at the Comedy Store right now that are regulars. | ||
With Joey for sure. | ||
Burr's there all the time. | ||
Delia's there all the time. | ||
Theo Vaughn is a motherfucking monster. | ||
He's there all the time. | ||
Who else? | ||
Who else would you go with? | ||
Hinchcliffe's been killing. | ||
Santino's a monster. | ||
Santino's a monster. | ||
He's underrated. | ||
He's a fucking monster. | ||
Tom Segura's a monster. | ||
Christina's a monster. | ||
Bert Kreischer. | ||
Bert Kreischer. | ||
God, man. | ||
There's so many. | ||
There's so many. | ||
Yeah, there's so... | ||
Tom Papa, there's so many. | ||
Um... | ||
Neil Brennan. | ||
It's a fucking, it's a crazy place right now. | ||
It's crazy. | ||
Insane. | ||
Bobby Lee. | ||
I mean, it's just killer after killer. | ||
I mean, I was walking by the OR the other night. | ||
Eliza Schlesinger, Whitney Cummings. | ||
Walking by the OR the other night, and it was just roars coming out of there. | ||
And I was like, this place is nuts. | ||
And then you go down the hallway, and there's roars coming out of the main room. | ||
Crazy, right? | ||
It's crazy. | ||
The greatest time ever for stand-up. | ||
Greatest time ever. | ||
You go in there and you just feel it, man, in the walls. | ||
I don't know what it is. | ||
And then you go over to the Laugh Factory and it's like an antique shop. | ||
That's what Theo Vaughn said. | ||
Theo Vaughn said it's like an antique shop. | ||
When Theo said it, it's like being in an antique shop. | ||
I went, oh my God. | ||
You can't say that. | ||
Yeah, you can. | ||
When they started filming people, everybody was like, what? | ||
They started filming people just putting it up on YouTube. | ||
They say they're not doing it anymore, but everybody just lost all faith in that place. | ||
They're like, yeah, the fuck? | ||
I still do spots where I can, but they're not releasing my shit. | ||
The fact that they would do that, it's like, you guys are out of your fucking mind. | ||
That's insane. | ||
What are you thinking, man? | ||
And then offering people half of the revenue. | ||
For YouTube. | ||
Yeah, for YouTube. | ||
Why wouldn't I just put it on myself? | ||
What age are you living in? | ||
Yeah. | ||
And then when confronted, they're like, well, Tiffany Haddish is making so much money now and it's all because of this. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
That's why. | ||
Delusional. | ||
I don't know what he did, the guy who owns it. | ||
I don't know why he did letting those kids do that and put those things up. | ||
But people that had no idea about the stand-up comedy business. | ||
Bad idea. | ||
Basically interns. | ||
Just filming people's sets and putting all their material online. | ||
But the way it works is, you know, it's a close committee, so if Joe or whoever, Santino goes, hey, they're filming, don't do it there anymore. | ||
That's it. | ||
I mean, you just don't. | ||
It's a ghost town. | ||
Don't go there. | ||
I mean, you'll have three sold-out shows not even a half a mile away at the comedy store, and then they're canceling shows. | ||
Different animals. | ||
Because there's no one there. | ||
Different animals. | ||
There's no audience. | ||
But then the improv's still doing... | ||
The improv's doing better. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And you know what the improv did? | ||
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I still like the improv. | |
The improv moved that stupid fucking piano off the stage. | ||
About time. | ||
They put a platform on the side and pushed the piano over to the side. | ||
The piano would fuck up the whole show for anybody that was on the right side of the stage. | ||
They can't see it, but also the comic didn't have much room. | ||
Icehouse still bumping, right? | ||
Bumping, yeah. | ||
Especially when good comics are there. | ||
You know, with the Ice House, it's all about they have to have good people to get out to Pasadena. | ||
Because the Ice House, they've had sketchy lineups in the past. | ||
Like, you know, they'll have Joey and Brenda. | ||
They'll have, like, real shows that are really funny, but they'll also have, like, some bullshit. | ||
And they had, for years, they had some bullshit shows. | ||
Which kills your brand, because if you get known as that, where it's, like, the gimmicky bullshit guys, people are going to be like, oh, Friday night, let's just go see who's playing at the Ice House. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, oh, fuck that, man. | ||
Yeah, people will go down there and they'll expect to see like a Joey Diaz show and then some whack-ass fucking road guy who does like cruise ships. | ||
But is it more for the people that live in that area? | ||
Like, I mean, isn't it like a local kind of thing? | ||
Yeah, but it's still, if it's a bad show, it's a bad show. | ||
They don't want to come back. | ||
See if it's a good show. | ||
Like, they know when I do, I do those Wednesday nights once a month there. | ||
And they know if you go down there, I'm going to have killers on that show. | ||
Oh, you decide who goes on? | ||
Yeah, it's on my show. | ||
Oh, it's your show? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wednesday nights? | ||
I do one Thursday night at the Comedy Store every month, and I do one Wednesday night at the Ice House every month. | ||
Is it called Joe and Friends? | ||
Yeah, Joe Rogan and Friends. | ||
And the next one at the Comedy Store is June... | ||
Uh, 21st. | ||
June 21st. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And just in the green room, like last time it was Tony, Theo, you, me, just hanging out back there. | ||
It was like the best time. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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It's fun. | |
I could have been out to two in the morning. | ||
Everybody's laughing. | ||
It's the best, man. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Those guys made me laugh so hard. | ||
All you guys. | ||
Well, it's just, it's hard to find groups of people that are just... | ||
Savages. | ||
Just loose and fun and ridiculous. | ||
And then this is the world they live in. | ||
They live in this comedy world. | ||
So they're traveling around a lot, fucking around, having a good time, talking shit. | ||
And one person to say something, then it's just like... | ||
Everyone's like, yeah! | ||
It's fucking on. | ||
It's the best. | ||
Yeah, it's fun, man. | ||
Fun times. | ||
Everyone's baked. | ||
It's just... | ||
It almost feels like high school with your good friends. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, you know when you walk into, like, first period and all your boys, like, went to the front? | ||
That's what it feels like. | ||
Well, in a lot of ways, right? | ||
Because one of the things that happens as you get older is you lose all the fun. | ||
Because you have responsibilities and you have a job you hate. | ||
And you gotta get up in the morning and you're always tired. | ||
And this is the world that most people live in. | ||
When you could find a place where... | ||
It's all basically people that avoided that rat race and figured out some sneaky way through the system. | ||
And that sneaky way is talking shit. | ||
No soundcheck needed. | ||
You just get on stage. | ||
Especially when high-level comedians go up like yourself. | ||
You're going to get an hour of laughs over and over again. | ||
It's way better than a funny movie. | ||
Yeah, but if you're a new comic, I'm getting education, too. | ||
Yeah, there's a little bit of that. | ||
You're hanging around with those people more often. | ||
I can go listen to Theo Vaughn talk about something, then me and Joe talk business, and I'll go watch Patton Oswalt do his set, and then I'll watch Joey Diaz, and then Bill Burr's coming in. | ||
And for me, as long as I've been doing comedy, I still love it. | ||
I still love watching it. | ||
I still love watching it. | ||
If someone's killing, I still love it. | ||
I love it. | ||
It's just, it's a great form of entertainment. | ||
And I think it's necessary to, because people get so serious about certain subjects, if someone could just come along and mock it and laugh at it so hard, and then you realize, like, oh, this is fucking ridiculous. | ||
This is ridiculous. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It alleviates pressure. | ||
What was fascinating to me the other night with Tom Papa, Oswald, and Tony Hinchcliffe, they all had the same premises on their joke, but each opinion was so different. | ||
I was laughing so hard, man. | ||
But you just see how everyone's different, but it's the popular subject. | ||
Like Trump? | ||
No. | ||
Like sexual assault. | ||
It was so funny, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I like Joey's... | ||
I don't want to give away his... | ||
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Yeah, I don't. | |
He's got a great bid on that. | ||
Neil Magny is tough to take down, huh? | ||
Very tough. | ||
Very wiry. | ||
Long... | ||
And who's this gentleman that he's fighting? | ||
James White. | ||
James White? | ||
Do you know anything about him? | ||
Craig White. | ||
Craig White? | ||
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It's supposed to be... | |
Oh, why am I drawing a blank? | ||
What's homeboy's name? | ||
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Gunnar. | |
Gunnar Nelson. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
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Yeah. | |
What happened at Gunnar? | ||
He got injured? | ||
I'm not sure, but that was going to be a hell of a fight. | ||
Neil's beat some tough guys. | ||
He beat Kelvin Gaslin. | ||
He beat Kelvin. | ||
He beat Johnny Hendricks. | ||
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He beat Hector Lombard. | |
Hector Lombard, Kelvin Gaslin, and Johnny Hendricks. | ||
Correct. | ||
It's pretty good. | ||
He can retire now. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Whenever he fights a jiu-jitsu guy, he's screwed. | ||
It's his Achilles heel because they take him down and murk him up. | ||
His jiu-jitsu's not that good? | ||
His defense is just, you know, but when I say it's his Achilles heel, the very tip of the spare black belts fuck him up. | ||
That's why I was so impressed with Dos Anjos. | ||
Dos Anjos smashed Neil. | ||
He leg kicked him, dragged him to the ground, and choked the fuck out of him. | ||
Well, Damian Maia did that. | ||
That other homeboy guy, Inverted Triangle, the bald guy, I forget his name, who's ridiculous at Jiu-Jitsu, Brazilian. | ||
Bald guy? | ||
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Bald guy. | |
Bald Brazilian? | ||
Yeah, I know. | ||
Inverted Triangle. | ||
Bald Brazilian? | ||
Tiago Alves? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Sergio Morais. | ||
Oh, Sergio Morais. | ||
Yeah, that guy's really good. | ||
Yeah, Sergio Morais is really good. | ||
And then Damian Maia was like, "You do what?" He's got a... | ||
He triangled someone from the Mount years ago, and I'll never forget it. | ||
I forgot his name because of that. | ||
Yeah, he's a beast, man. | ||
He set it up beautifully. | ||
He's got a crazy tricep, too. | ||
He's like missing a tricep. | ||
Like, you look at one of his arms, like his tricep is non-existent. | ||
He must have broke off and slid up. | ||
Yeah, it must have tore and he never got it fixed. | ||
Because they tear him ravel up, like a fruit roll up. | ||
Yeah, he never got it fixed because he's got a bicep, but then there's nothing behind it. | ||
It's very weird looking on one of his arms. | ||
What's he doing? | ||
He's still fighting. | ||
Just got KO'd. | ||
Just got KO'd by somebody. | ||
Somebody good. | ||
Pull up Sergio Morai. | ||
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Hmm. | |
Yeah, he was the first guy to tap Krohn as a black belt. | ||
Look at that! | ||
Magni in the mount! | ||
Magni in the mount! | ||
Yeah, see how his left tricep is kind of missing? | ||
It's even weirder when you see it hanging low. | ||
It's pretty weird there. | ||
Pull up his record, Jamie. | ||
Look at this shit! | ||
Magni in the mount! | ||
He's going for an arm triangle here. | ||
Immediately escaped. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
He's gonna stand up. | ||
Let me see his... | ||
There we go. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Just go to his record, though. | ||
Yeah, it's right here. | ||
Where is it? | ||
Scroll down. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
His actual fights. | ||
Oh, he beat Tim Means? | ||
Usman KO'd him. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
That was Usman's only KO. Really? | ||
Yeah, Usman has a lot of decisions, man. | ||
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Mm. | |
Super disappointed in that stand-up. | ||
Matt Serra was going off about the referee. | ||
About the referee separating them when Damian Maia had his back. | ||
That was ridiculous. | ||
It was really bad. | ||
Who was the ref? | ||
I want to say it was Leon Roberts. | ||
Wasn't it? | ||
Yeah, I think so. | ||
It was a terrible decision. | ||
Yeah, they're getting too crazy with the stand-ups. | ||
They're getting way too crazy. | ||
They need to relax. | ||
Well, especially in that situation. | ||
You got a guy who's a strangulation expert that finally gets to clinch on a world-class wrestler. | ||
Especially early in the first round. | ||
Early in the first round. | ||
Got a real good position on him. | ||
And you also have to think Maya took this fight with zero camp. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Neil Magny. | ||
There you go, Neil. | ||
Finish it off, Neil. | ||
Neil's whooping his ass. | ||
He's hurt. | ||
Come on, Neil. | ||
He need him right in the face. | ||
Yeah, he did. | ||
But it was legal. | ||
Yeah. | ||
For sure legal. | ||
Oh, he's out. | ||
Oh, he's out. | ||
That's it. | ||
Neil Magny. | ||
First round, baby. | ||
Damn. | ||
Big win. | ||
Powerful Neil Magny. | ||
Neil Magny's stopping, motherfuckers. | ||
Powerful back on Neil. | ||
Yeah, he's a long dude, huh? | ||
That's about as long as it gets for 170. Great cardio, long. | ||
Yeah, and good fight IQ, you know? | ||
Like, never blows his wad. | ||
He's always in there. | ||
Like, look at that. | ||
Just finish the guy. | ||
He's barely breathing heavy. | ||
I mean, seriously, man. | ||
That dude is in fucking shape. | ||
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He's a freak. | |
He's always been that way, man. | ||
Is that just a discipline thing? | ||
Just always training hard? | ||
He's a military guy. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Also a Denver thing, right? | ||
Yeah, but he was in Chicago. | ||
I had the same fucking cardio. | ||
Because I was one of the coaches on Ultimate Fighter 14. He came off that season. | ||
Even then, they're like, dude, look at the cardio on Neil. | ||
What does he do for cardio? | ||
You know him well. | ||
He just trains nonstop. | ||
He lived with Nate Markhart when he first came to Denver. | ||
Nate trained nonstop, so he just kind of took on that role. | ||
He just trains nonstop. | ||
Is Nate retired? | ||
Yes. | ||
Nate's done. | ||
That's good. | ||
He's doing the Lord's work now. | ||
Oh. | ||
What kind of work is that? | ||
Whatever the Lord wants him to do. | ||
What's the Lord saying? | ||
I think sell Bibles. | ||
I don't know what they do. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
So he's working for a church or something? | ||
I think so. | ||
He's trying to become a priest or something like that. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
He was always super religious. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Always. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm glad he's retired. | ||
Great guy. | ||
He had a lot of great fights, man. | ||
A lot of great fights. | ||
One of the greats. | ||
Nate the Great. | ||
His KO of Tyron Woodley for the Strikeforce Welterweight Champ is one of the all-time highlight real KOs. | ||
Mortal Kombat KO. Yeah, literally. | ||
Mortal Kombat. | ||
Elbows. | ||
The best. | ||
I love Nate. | ||
Elbows and uppercuts, son. | ||
He's so goddamn tough. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
For sure. | ||
He's a guy that was real active and real proficient before anybody knew anything about MMA. He started when he was 17. Joey, he's called me a couple times. | ||
Should I answer the phone if he calls? | ||
Call him back. | ||
Listen, cocksucker. | ||
I made a watch that Darren Till. | ||
Darren Till's over there eating Pop-Tarts. | ||
He weighs 500 pounds. | ||
He's talking about Mackenzie Dern's ass last night again. | ||
Again? | ||
He's terrible about that. | ||
John, what do you think happened there? | ||
What do you think that smells like? | ||
What do you think happened there? | ||
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You think she's just eating all the fucking time? | |
I don't know, Joey. | ||
I don't know her personally. | ||
She missed weight by seven pounds. | ||
She's fucking smoking, though, right? | ||
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Yeah, man. | |
She's a very attractive girl. | ||
Joey's right now in the middle of bong hits. | ||
He can't answer that phone. | ||
He'll answer. | ||
Hmm, really? | ||
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You have reached the voicemail box. | |
Guess not. | ||
Maybe he's calling me. | ||
Oh, there it is. | ||
Calling you back? | ||
Where you been, dog? | ||
What was that? | ||
How many times have I got to call you, dawg? | ||
We're on the podcast. | ||
We're on JRE Fight Companion Live. | ||
What's up? | ||
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Alright. | |
What are you doing? | ||
I ain't watching dick. | ||
I got shit to do on people to see. | ||
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I ain't got time to watch people kick each other in the fucking head today. | |
You're on the air. | ||
You're on speakerphone. | ||
Tell me. | ||
Come on by. | ||
Come on by for the main event. | ||
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You're what? | |
What are you doing to show the cops? | ||
Oh, Cobbs is this Friday in San Francisco. | ||
This Friday. | ||
We'll see you one day this week on the show to discuss your comedy career as a fucking... | ||
What do you call that? | ||
A fucking extraterrestrial fucking comic. | ||
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whatever the fuck it's a trashy tinfoil and actual trashy whatever that fuck you call it Martian comedy What? | |
You're fueling the flames of this shit, Joe Ruben. | ||
You're better than I am. | ||
Copsucker. | ||
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Fucking people. | |
I'm over here smoking the weed Denny smoked. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
I'm crazy. | ||
But Netflix next week, I'm fucking got a terrible new asshole. | ||
They came out last night to see Uncle Joey. | ||
I was dropping fucking narco jokes on him and shit. | ||
I'm ready to go, dog. | ||
I'm going to cryotherapy right now. | ||
Nice. | ||
Nice. | ||
Beautiful. | ||
And that's it. | ||
Enjoy fucking Till against Wonderboy and my man against the other guy. | ||
I'll watch it tonight on tape. | ||
7 and 9 p.m. | ||
in Las Vegas. | ||
And where at? | ||
Yeah, where are they filming at? | ||
Downtown, I think. | ||
Some place they got. | ||
It's a small place, Joe. | ||
It was made for us. | ||
It's like 100 seats less than the original room, nice and tight. | ||
Really? | ||
A couple years ago. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Are there tickets available? | ||
There's no tickets available. | ||
I mean, there's something for you. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
If you show up in the helicopter, I can't deny you. | ||
We might have to get in the Batmobile and go down there and represent. | ||
If you show up in the Trump Tower copter, then you're in no danger. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
You just walk in and take the mic and tell people what time it is. | ||
I can't wait for people to see that special, Joey. | ||
It's gonna be fucking nuts. | ||
I can't wait. | ||
I'm working hard. | ||
I've never worked this hard in my life. | ||
I didn't know the meaning of this since I listened to you and the tapings and the trying shit. | ||
And now I'm just doing 28 minute sets all week. | ||
28, 28, 28. Boom! | ||
I gotta get the beginning more jazzed up because I gotta make them watch. | ||
So I gotta go out there like a fucking meteor, you understand me? | ||
I gotta go out there and hold them till like 14 minutes and let them... | ||
I got the strategy. | ||
I'm gonna go out there and fucking just go off for about 14, then we go to our different corners, and then I come on and I pick my shots. | ||
Pick my fucking shots like when fucking Eddie's guy fought that dude and he fucked the really good striker. | ||
I gotta pick my shots in the second round and then the third round go out there and just fucking four point combinations ending with leg kicks to tear down the knee until you can't take it no more. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
That's the strategy right there. | ||
I'm breaking it down to three rounds, Joe Rogan. | ||
You did it last night, Joey. | ||
You did it last night at the Ice House. | ||
I told Rogan you said I'm on fire, man. | ||
Yeah, no, no, no. | ||
I broke it down to three rounds. | ||
And I'm cutting that and adding. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
I'm cutting. | ||
I'm looking at it like an MMA fighter. | ||
So I'm training for a fight. | ||
So the first 11 minutes, it's fucked. | ||
And I got to jump on your criminal shit. | ||
Like old school Vitor. | ||
The whole fucking old school. | ||
Old school Vitor. | ||
The second round, I'm just picking my shots like your guy against Edson Barboza. | ||
He picked his shots. | ||
He picked them apart. | ||
He kicked them in the side. | ||
He fucked up that sciatic nerve. | ||
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He kicked them in the body. | |
You know, you just gotta get any shots. | ||
And then the third round, I come out like fucking that black dude in the 70s that fought when they gave him the bottle filled with cocaine milk. | ||
Aaron Pryor. | ||
Remember Joe Rogan? | ||
Aaron Pryor. | ||
Cocaine milk. | ||
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Aaron Pryor. | |
Drop some knowledge, Joe Rogan. | ||
Aaron Pryor. | ||
These motherfuckers don't know dicks. | ||
The magic bottle. | ||
That's right. | ||
The same one Dana brought out for the fight against Alto against Conor McGregor. | ||
*laughter* That's the same one they gave fucking Conor against Aldo Don't tell me I know the characteristics of that fucking milk What the fuck do you think you're dealing with? | ||
In the third round, we come out like fucking Aaron Pryor. | ||
What was that trainer's name? | ||
Is that Emmanuel Stewart? | ||
We're watching it right now. | ||
Jamie just put it up. | ||
Alexis Arguello. | ||
Alexis Arguello, Aaron Pryor. | ||
He's getting fucked up. | ||
Panama Lewis! | ||
Panama Lewis! | ||
Panama Lewis gave the bottle with the original shit. | ||
The shit Noriega was sending up. | ||
Yeah, he gave it to him. | ||
He mixed up with some coconut water. | ||
He ain't no looking back. | ||
And then Aaron Pryor came out just throwing bombs and fucked Alexis Arguello up. | ||
That was a great fight, man. | ||
A great fight. | ||
This is a great fight. | ||
This is the way you gotta do it. | ||
Man, old school boxing. | ||
Aaron Pryor. | ||
The bottle. | ||
This fight's called The Bottle. | ||
Is it called The Bottle? | ||
He said, get him the bottle that I mixed. | ||
Did they capture that on video? | ||
Did they have the bottle? | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
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He said, give him the bottle that I mixed. | |
It's smoke coming out of it. | ||
I wonder what the fuck was in that thing? | ||
Cocaine. | ||
Damn, he's doing work! | ||
Look at him. | ||
Where's the bottle? | ||
No, get the other one. | ||
The one that I mixed. | ||
Look at it. | ||
Okay, there's a bottle. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Not that one. | ||
Give me the other one. | ||
How fucking beautiful is that? | ||
Okay, that's one bottle. | ||
He's got him sniffing shit. | ||
No, they drank him one, and that was the one. | ||
He goes, give me that one. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Bang! | ||
He got hurt before that. | ||
He's getting fucked up. | ||
Alexis Arguello had a nasty right hand, man. | ||
And he was watery as shit long. | ||
So this is not the main event, is it? | ||
Yeah, this is the main event. | ||
Here we are. | ||
All right. | ||
Let's go right back to the fight. | ||
Joey, we're about to watch Wonder Boy vs. | ||
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Till. | |
We love you, man. | ||
Love you, man. | ||
Love you, man. | ||
All right. | ||
We'll see you this week, brothers. | ||
Thank you. | ||
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Later. | |
Okay, man. | ||
See you. | ||
Bye. | ||
Here's Darren Till. | ||
Who's better than him? | ||
He's the best. | ||
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Who's better? | |
I love that guy. | ||
Oh, then Joey did. | ||
I thought you were saying Till. | ||
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I'm like, well, there's two to have him right now. | |
Well, it's kind of amazing that he's even top ten with one win over a big guy. | ||
In Donald Cerrone, he's really a 155-pounder. | ||
Yeah, it's insane that I'm picking him to win the fight. | ||
I am not a fan of how they do the ratings. | ||
Do you think ESPN? Remember, that's a Fox thing. | ||
So is ESPN going to stick with it? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Is it Fox's decision? | ||
That was one of Fox's deals. | ||
They want rankings because they didn't think the public could understand who's who without the rankings. | ||
They're too arbitrary. | ||
They're too disagreed upon by high-level people. | ||
No matter how you do it, you can never get it right, so you might as well just try it and just let it fly. | ||
You've got to have rankings. | ||
This is the problem, though. | ||
It's fighters going, wait, he's six, but I'm five. | ||
I'm not fighting six, man. | ||
Before, we didn't know what Dare 2 was ranked. | ||
We didn't know what Wonder Boy was ranked. | ||
You gotta do what Pride did. | ||
Just make him fight. | ||
If you decline a fight, they'll never ask you again. | ||
They try. | ||
This is exciting, man. | ||
I'm fucking pumped for this fight. | ||
It took long enough. | ||
I feel like we've been in for seven hours. | ||
Darren Till's got those old school Thai tattoos on his back. | ||
The kind they tap in. | ||
They do that with the fucking, the tapper. | ||
You ever seen those? | ||
That's those old school temple tattoos. | ||
Is that his girlfriend on his arm? | ||
I think it's his older girlfriend. | ||
Or is it his daughter? | ||
Oh, no. | ||
No, he probably got that in Brazil. | ||
They probably don't have the best tattoo artist. | ||
But remember, he was young when he got that. | ||
The tattoo? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It looks like Charlize Theron from Monster. | ||
You think there's a guy out there with a tattoo of a chick that's like a one-night stand, like one crazy night? | ||
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Of course. | |
That was the hottest chick ever! | ||
There's probably a million guys with that. | ||
With a one-night stand? | ||
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Tattooed? | |
Yeah, she sucked the meanest dick ever. | ||
He's like, I'm being tatted. | ||
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He's like, respect! | |
I'm putting her on my back. | ||
Respect. | ||
Respect, girl. | ||
Yeah, no, it's his girlfriend. | ||
It's his girlfriend? | ||
Okay. | ||
So, um, that's a commitment right there, right? | ||
Marry her. | ||
Yeah, you're into that one. | ||
That's how scared dudes are of marriage. | ||
Look, I'll tattoo you on my arm for life, but I ain't getting married, man. | ||
Marriage is too permanent. | ||
It's too dangerous. | ||
So many people scared of that marriage, buddy. | ||
Here he goes. | ||
Darren Till. | ||
Listen to that crowd, man. | ||
It's too bad Liverpool lost yesterday. | ||
Otherwise this place would be fucking even on more fire. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Big moment for this kid. | ||
Big moment. | ||
We're going to find out a lot about him. | ||
Look how big he is, man. | ||
He's big, but so is Wonderboy, man. | ||
Wonderboy's a tall fella. | ||
He's an inch taller. | ||
Wonderboy's tall. | ||
Wonderboy's not as meaty, is he? | ||
No, he's not. | ||
Wonderboy's name is Wonderboy. | ||
His is the gorilla. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But who named Wonderboy Wonderboy? | ||
And who named the gorilla the gorilla? | ||
See, that's what's important. | ||
That's what's up. | ||
Yeah. | ||
What if you called yourself Big Brown? | ||
People would be like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
You call yourself Big Brown? | ||
Yeah, that's weird. | ||
Hey, what's your name, man? | ||
El Toronado. | ||
Where'd that come out? | ||
Well, I was sitting around thinking about nicknames. | ||
Fuck out of here. | ||
It says that Dan Hardy gave him the nickname of the gorilla. | ||
Oh, there you go. | ||
That makes sense. | ||
How long ago did he give it to him? | ||
Well, this says he officially accepted it as of January 20th. | ||
Oh, fucking week, man! | ||
Real recent. | ||
Oh, fuck! | ||
What was his name before then? | ||
Well, I didn't know Dan Hart was like, oh, I just like to refer to him as the gorilla, and then three days ago he rode with it. | ||
I thought this was his name for a while now. | ||
Well, it's January. | ||
We're into May. | ||
So it's technically legit. | ||
Five months? | ||
I mean, after he beat... | ||
How long does a man have to keep a nickname before it's a legit nickname? | ||
There's some fucking rules here, bro. | ||
It's unspoken rules. | ||
Your nickname could be Sidekick. | ||
I don't have a nickname, man. | ||
Come on, Joe. | ||
Sidekick. | ||
You don't want to be known as Sidekick. | ||
Yeah, I'm the Sidekick. | ||
I'm a wingman. | ||
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No, but, you know, it's Sidekick. | |
We know as a martial arts term everyone else, like the sidekick? | ||
No girl wants to fuck the sidekick. | ||
Yeah, it's the thing like Dennis though. | ||
If you know the real meaning to the dentist, it sounds, you know. | ||
The dentist also isn't getting his dick sucked in the bar. | ||
See, the dentist is such an obscure nickname, I think you gotta leave Josh Near alone. | ||
That's his nickname. | ||
That's an obscure one, you know? | ||
But didn't they call Eve Edwards the dentist at one point in time? | ||
Because of Aaron Reilly? | ||
Yes, yes. | ||
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Remember that? | |
He destroyed it. | ||
That was like a hook and shoot. | ||
Broke his whole pallet. | ||
Aaron Reilly was one of those tough, tough journeymen. | ||
Yeah, remember when Robbie Lawler made his UFC debut against Aaron Reilly and just beat the brakes off of him? | ||
That's another super impressive performance by Rafael Dos Anjos, right? | ||
The Robbie Lawler fight. | ||
Hell yeah! | ||
Holy shit! | ||
God damn! | ||
That was an amazing fight. | ||
Amazing. | ||
He's like one of the best examples of a guy who was holding himself back by staying in a lower weight class. | ||
He did get the belt, though. | ||
Yes, he did, but he couldn't take it anymore. | ||
His body couldn't take it anymore. | ||
He was so big. | ||
I ran into him in between fights when he was fighting 55, and he was 200 pounds. | ||
It was just too much for him. | ||
He was so big. | ||
And then he started declining a little bit because the weight cut was fucked, and then he went to 70. Now he's a nightmare. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Wonderboy. | ||
How tall is Dos Anjos? | ||
He's short for a 170 year, right? | ||
I think he's 5'9". | ||
Shorter, yeah. | ||
Let's see if you can find it, Jamie. | ||
He might even be 5'8". | ||
Yeah, that's kind of short. | ||
How tall is Kelvin? | ||
5'9"? | ||
Kelvin's probably like 5'10". | ||
But he's doing 85. But Tyron's 5'9 too, right? | ||
5'9"? | ||
No, he's gotta be 5'10", 5'11". | ||
No way! | ||
Woodley? | ||
I think Woodley's 5'9". | ||
I think he's 5'9". | ||
That's what's so impressive. | ||
I think Woodley's 5'11". | ||
Oh, he's 5'9", it says. | ||
No one's got a bigger badonkadonk than Woodley. | ||
When he walks in, the fucking thighs on that guy is an ass. | ||
He generates so much force. | ||
You know, I'm 5'9 now. | ||
I'm all proud of it. | ||
Fuck yeah! | ||
Dude, anytime I fill out some medical shit and they say fucking hi, I say 5'9, motherfucker. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
How is the back feeling? | ||
It's hard to tell because I haven't been able to train because of my knee and my shoulder. | ||
So when I get back, my knee's feeling better. | ||
I'm on the bike 30 minutes a day. | ||
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So you got your knee scoped? | |
I decided to hold off on the shoulder surgery. | ||
Yeah? | ||
I decided, yeah. | ||
What did they want to do to you? | ||
What kind of shit you got wrong in there? | ||
The labrum. | ||
Rotator cuff. | ||
But I finally got a second opinion yesterday, and they told me, man, unless it's hurting really bad, just hold off on it. | ||
Hold off on it why? | ||
It's just... | ||
I don't want to go into surgery again, man. | ||
Just again. | ||
I just had knee surgery and then shoulder surgery. | ||
And back surgery just a year ago. | ||
I'm going to try to rehab it with shoulder rehab exercises. | ||
I'm going to go that route first. | ||
And if that doesn't work, then I'll have surgery. | ||
But I decided I'm not going to have surgery on my shoulder. | ||
Dude, they're doing some crazy shit down in Panama. | ||
Panama. | ||
That's $25,000, though. | ||
It's expensive. | ||
And you know, when Mel Gibson was on your podcast... | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
I'd have to... | ||
Is there a possibility that he was like, you know, he has some financial interest in the company or something? | ||
I don't know. | ||
It's hard to tell. | ||
He really wanted to do it for Dr. Reardon. | ||
He's good friends with that guy. | ||
Did he help his dad? | ||
I want to believe all that shit's real. | ||
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I want to. | |
But every time you hear about stem cells, there's a new way and they do it different. | ||
And now they're taking stem cells from here instead of there. | ||
And it's like, dude, figure that shit out first. | ||
But it's new. | ||
They're all good. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
It's too new. | ||
They're all good, but they keep getting better at it. | ||
But talk to TJ, because TJ had some raving things to say about Panama. | ||
He's been down there twice. | ||
After the Mel Gibson podcast? | ||
Before and after. | ||
He was there before, and then he went again. | ||
He went again recently. | ||
Why do we have to go again? | ||
The fight's starting. | ||
I'm scared. | ||
I hope that's real, man. | ||
They just tapped gloves and hugged each other. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
There's a lot of respect. | ||
I have no idea what's going to happen. | ||
This is intense. | ||
It's very rare you have no idea what's going to happen in the fight. | ||
No idea. | ||
Literally no idea. | ||
I'm kind of nervous. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Bam. | ||
Wonderboy's going to have to be smart. | ||
A lot of footwork. | ||
Two southpaws, too. | ||
Another big point. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Look at the size of Till's fucking thighs. | ||
Boy, their styles. | ||
Look at their styles. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Both real loose, but more Muay Thai base with Till. | ||
He's going to throw front leg round kicks. | ||
The thing about Wonderboy is he's all light on the toes. | ||
Yeah, his trigger is insane. | ||
Leg kick right away by Till. | ||
Very interesting. | ||
I'm so curious about this fight. | ||
Did you see that video Till put out of him sparring, just beating the shit out of some guy? | ||
Yeah, it was weird, right? | ||
Yeah, very strange. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That guy didn't look that good, but he knocked him out. | ||
Yeah, hurting him, too. | ||
Yeah, I wouldn't post that if I was him. | ||
Yeah, and then he posted some of him getting hit, too, after that, because he said people were calling him a bully. | ||
That I don't like, because that means he's reading the comments, and then he's reacting to those comments, which means people can fuck with his head. | ||
If you're a young fighter, it's going to be tough, man, to navigate through. | ||
Well, those comments, you've got to leave them alone. | ||
You have to. | ||
Because there's so many... | ||
You're dealing with a... | ||
You know, a pool of thousands and thousands of people, and who knows who they are or what their agenda is. | ||
Yeah, but also a lot of those people aren't happy for your success. | ||
Like, they're miserable in their life, so they come at you. | ||
Of course. | ||
Especially a guy like Till who's on the rise, you know? | ||
Yeah, or anyone in the spotlight. | ||
Tries that switch kick off the front leg. | ||
UFC might want to hire someone to help these younger guys with that. | ||
Well, just give them a little psychological counseling on how to handle it. | ||
Get a social media expert in there. | ||
He's also going to close the distance and lend that left hand over the top. | ||
Wonderboy's not there, though. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wonderboy's footwork is freaking ridiculous. | ||
Well, this is the perfect kind of style for him, too. | ||
An aggressive guy coming forward. | ||
This is what he's used to. | ||
Yeah, I have to imagine that's why he took the fight just stylistically. | ||
He's like, yeah, big guy, aggressive, let's do it. | ||
Right, after the fight. | ||
Even though, remember, he just beat Masvidal. | ||
See, he shouldn't be there. | ||
He better get the fuck out of there. | ||
Don't stay there. | ||
Yeah, he landed that leg kick, but he was a little off balance. | ||
Yeah, he didn't recuperate. | ||
Well, Darren made a shift as he was going to launch that leg kick, and he put him in a weird position where he was off balance. | ||
I mean, there's some good adjustments going on here. | ||
Both guys trying to find the range. | ||
I'll tell you what. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
God, Till's about to fire one off, man. | ||
He likes that slide with the right hand forward and then looked at... | ||
Cox the left. | ||
Ew, good. | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
One-two. | ||
Damn. | ||
Quick one-two. | ||
Wonderboy letting him know. | ||
It's still there. | ||
Wonderboy hasn't had a finish in a while last time. | ||
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Still there. | |
Look, Till's a little hesitant now. | ||
Wait a little bit now. | ||
Be careful. | ||
It's like a cobra, man. | ||
Be careful. | ||
You're talking about a dude who was like 57-0 as a kickboxer. | ||
That's how good Wonderboy is. | ||
I agree. | ||
As far as high-level striking, I can't remember the last time two strikers were matched up this well. | ||
No, and this is five rounds, son. | ||
Oh, I'll take it. | ||
Yeah, who knows what's going to happen in this fight. | ||
This is interesting. | ||
So high level. | ||
They're just trying to figure each other out. | ||
Stepped in with the left hand. | ||
Popped him with the left hand. | ||
Just caught him at the end of it. | ||
Not a lot of power, but reached him. | ||
He's letting Till know that he's down a snap. | ||
He's also switching legs, switching stances. | ||
Now it's all sideways. | ||
It's hard to find a training partner who's going to emulate Wonderboy, man. | ||
Yep. | ||
You don't really get a real look at it until you're... | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
He's picking his shots beautifully so far. | ||
I think he's trying to frustrate Till, so Till jumps in and makes a mistake. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
Looked for it. | ||
I don't think that landed, though, huh? | ||
No. | ||
Looked cool, though. | ||
And I was on board. | ||
I yelled out. | ||
You gotta get off the cage here. | ||
You gotta get out. | ||
Yeah, I think for one of the ways, these first two rounds, he's trying to frustrate Till. | ||
What time is it in England right now? | ||
They're 7 hours ahead. | ||
8. Are they 8? | ||
8. So it's fucking... | ||
8 o'clock. | ||
It's really late. | ||
Oh, you're saying 8 o'clock. | ||
8.30 at night. | ||
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See, I think it's 7.30. | |
It's 8 hours. | ||
Is it? | ||
Trust me. | ||
Yeah, you probably know. | ||
So it's 9.30 p.m. | ||
right now. | ||
8.30, bro. | ||
8.30. | ||
What time is it now? | ||
It's 12.30. | ||
I looked at my watch real quick. | ||
Unless there's a couple different time zones in the UK. I thought it was just one. | ||
They might not have daylight savings time or something. | ||
Nobody should have that. | ||
Daylight savings time is stupid. | ||
It's bullshit, man. | ||
Arizona does it right. | ||
They do. | ||
They're like, fuck you. | ||
Why do we fuck with it? | ||
And that hour of sleep we lose? | ||
God, go fuck yourself. | ||
It's ridiculous. | ||
So should we get a two-year-old? | ||
Yeah. | ||
But how about when you gain that hour? | ||
Oh, it's nice when you gain it for like two days. | ||
Not worth it, bro. | ||
It's not worth it. | ||
Fuck my life, bro. | ||
In the morning, it's dark. | ||
In the afternoon, it's not. | ||
Your boy's two? | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's two now? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Mine's six. | ||
God dang. | ||
Damn. | ||
He's all into Harry Potter and shit now. | ||
Damn. | ||
We go to Universal Studios. | ||
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How awesome is that ride? | |
If you haven't been to Universal Studios... | ||
You need to go. | ||
Universal Studios fucking rules now. | ||
The 3D simulations? | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
High level. | ||
That Harry Potter ride? | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Holy fuck! | ||
Dude, the new Guardians of the Galaxy at Disney is pretty sick. | ||
Yeah, it is. | ||
I was straight up scared on that ride. | ||
I was scared. | ||
And then the Transformer ride is amazing. | ||
The Simpsons ride is amazing. | ||
Simpsons land is sick. | ||
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Yeah. | |
The Simpsons ride is one of my favorite rides ever. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You know what's the best ride ever, all time, hands down? | ||
Flights of Passage Avatar ride in Disney World in Orlando. | ||
Is it like a simulation? | ||
It's incredible, dude. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
It's like virtual reality. | ||
You go in, you sit on this bike, you're riding a dragon. | ||
You saw Avatar, right? | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
Riding one of those things through the fucking jungle. | ||
What? | ||
God damn, that sounds sick. | ||
It is every... | ||
Think of like... | ||
Have you ever done that... | ||
There's the thing at Disneyland called Soaring Over the World. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Giant screen and you're flying like over India and over Everest. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Sure that's not Disney World that they've got? | ||
No, I just did it. | ||
Yeah, he said Disney World. | ||
He just said, yeah, Disney World. | ||
No, Disneyland has soaring over the world. | ||
Oh. | ||
But, here we go, round two. | ||
Fuck Disney World. | ||
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Continue the round, I remember. | |
Oh! | ||
Till getting a little more aggressive. | ||
Till tagged him with that left hand. | ||
And that castle, that Harry Potter castle that they build? | ||
Like, what the fuck? | ||
It's amazing. | ||
No, it's incredible. | ||
Till's getting way more amped up. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
It's like one mistake, man. | ||
I know, Wonderboy is such a good counterfighter. | ||
Oh, he lives right, doesn't he? | ||
Oh, gotta get off the fucking fence, Wonderboy. | ||
That's all Till wants. | ||
So that first round, you gotta give it to Wonderboy, right? | ||
Yeah, I mean, super close, but yeah. | ||
Yeah, give it to Wonderboy. | ||
Yeah, you give it to Wonderboy. | ||
Not a whole lot going on. | ||
I mean, he landed like maybe two shots. | ||
One of the body, then that one-two. | ||
Remember this, though. | ||
They're in Liverpool. | ||
He's the hometown kid, and the judges look at octagon control. | ||
So it's not necessarily you could give it to Wonderboy. | ||
But Darren Till, I don't think, landed anything. | ||
But he's going forward. | ||
And the judges are morons. | ||
So like, oh, going forward, that works. | ||
Oh, give it to Till. | ||
He did a good job, didn't he? | ||
They always ask a question after they say something. | ||
Didn't he? | ||
He's amazing, isn't he? | ||
Fantastic right hand, wasn't it? | ||
This fight's about to get loose in the third round, I feel like. | ||
Well, it's getting loose already. | ||
A little bit. | ||
It's just such a dangerous chess game. | ||
I know. | ||
And Wonderboy hands motherfucking down, son. | ||
He's always like that. | ||
Always like that. | ||
That's that karate style, son. | ||
Ooh, look for it. | ||
Till slid. | ||
Slid to the right. | ||
Till's elbows are no joke either. | ||
No. | ||
If he gets in close there. | ||
The one that he landed on Cowboy was ruthless. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Who else has he beaten? | ||
That's about it, sir. | ||
Yeah, I'm really... | ||
There's not anybody else. | ||
He hasn't really knocked you off your socks before that Cowboy fight. | ||
He's had some decisions. | ||
They had an early knockout. | ||
He stopped somebody, too? | ||
No, early on he had one stoppage. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
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Ooh. | |
Damn. | ||
Wonderboy with the left hand over the top. | ||
Wonderboy fighting very smart, man. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, this is like, again, stylistically, such a great fight. | ||
Because this is the style that Wonderboy really does like. | ||
He likes a guy that's... | ||
Uber-aggressive. | ||
And in terms of high-level technique, both these guys are really good. | ||
Really, really good. | ||
Oh, Till keeps throwing that front leg sidekick to the front leg. | ||
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Oh! | |
Nope, he missed that. | ||
A little short with that. | ||
He doesn't like it. | ||
That's like Hickson. | ||
Yeah, he doesn't like it. | ||
No. | ||
Wonderboy's going to have to adapt to that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They both switch it up, don't they? | ||
Yep. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
Woo! | ||
Just missed that head kick, son. | ||
But a miss by an inch is as good as a mile. | ||
Till's got great distance control. | ||
They both do, don't they? | ||
They both do. | ||
They both do, don't they? | ||
Don't they? | ||
Don't they? | ||
That's Irish, isn't it? | ||
I don't know. | ||
My accents suck. | ||
We need Hanato in here. | ||
Do some scouse for us. | ||
Amazing kid. | ||
Liverpool's definitely a different accent, too. | ||
It's a thick, man. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Sunderland, Liverpool. | ||
Thick alley. | ||
Liverpool, I think, is Ozzy Osbourne. | ||
Oh, rushing in, man. | ||
Wonder Boy loves to do that, like, switch stance. | ||
That blitz. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But it's so hard to figure out what the fuck he's going to do because he switches stances while he does it sometimes. | ||
And then we'll throw a kick. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's about to rush in again. | ||
Till's just trying to figure out and pin him down, but, man, it's not there. | ||
This is one of the boys' game plan, man. | ||
Give him to commit and make a mistake. | ||
Then he's just going to capitalize. | ||
But Till's doing a good job of not giving him much space where the cage is. | ||
This is not happening in the center of the cage as much as it's happening. | ||
Ooh! | ||
Wonderboy tried that switch. | ||
What if Till's going to feel any pressure to get a finish? | ||
Because Till is absolutely controlling the center of the cage. | ||
Wonderboy does not have a lot. | ||
Well, now they're in the center. | ||
And you know that wins rounds for these judges. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because they don't understand fighting. | ||
That place is packed, dude, man. | ||
Oh, I'm sure. | ||
They say, you know, he's a superstar in Liverpool. | ||
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Yeah, superstar. | |
It'd be the face of England, man. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
If he had a big knockout here, it'd be the face. | ||
Because Bisping obviously is, but he's retired. | ||
Yeah, who else is coming up in England? | ||
We got Michael Venom Page, right? | ||
Sure, yeah. | ||
But he's not on this level. | ||
Well, why don't they give him high-level fights? | ||
He just had fought Rickles. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Do you see what he did to him? | ||
No. | ||
He fucked him up. | ||
I heard. | ||
He exploded his face and choked him out. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And that was like his first, like, they weren't feeding him, you know? | ||
Like, that was a tough fight. | ||
Mike VanPage Daily next, they say. | ||
And Roy McDonald, Mousasi. | ||
Those are two very good fights. | ||
Are you kidding me? | ||
I really like Page Daily because they don't like each other. | ||
They fucking hate each other. | ||
I like that fight a lot. | ||
Shout out to all the 10th Planet schools in the UK. We got like eight now. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
London, Birmingham, Bramberry, Redditch, Darlington. | ||
Shit, am I missing one? | ||
Oh, Glasgow. | ||
That's Scotland. | ||
Squirtland. | ||
How many you got worldwide? | ||
About a hundred. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
Amazing. | ||
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Ooh. | |
And it keeps growing, man. | ||
It keeps growing. | ||
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Ooh. | |
He hit him with that sidekick in the knee. | ||
You see Wonderboy's leg buckle? | ||
See that in the replay? | ||
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Yeah. | |
He didn't like that. | ||
He hit him with three straight. | ||
Yeah, one of them really made his knee buckle, man. | ||
Those things fucking suck. | ||
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Ooh. | |
Here it is. | ||
Michael Venom Page. | ||
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Boosh! | |
Wheel kicked him. | ||
Oh shit. | ||
Damn. | ||
He's so fast. | ||
That's again, karate. | ||
He comes from that point fighting background. | ||
You know, there's a great karate match that I watched. | ||
I mean, I don't know how many times they fought, but they fought point fighting. | ||
Way back in the day, Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page fought each other in point fighting. | ||
Now Raymond Daniels is the glory champion and Michael Venom Page is coming up in Bellator. | ||
Very interesting. | ||
Or he's a Bellator champion now, Raymond Daniels, right? | ||
He left glory. | ||
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Here we go. | |
Darren Till super aggressive here now. | ||
I wonder if Wonderboy's knee is okay. | ||
He still hasn't landed anything, though, except for those sidekicks to the knee. | ||
Yeah, he hasn't landed anything to the head. | ||
Wonderboy's knee seems fine. | ||
He's moving fine. | ||
Two rounds so far, no shot to the head. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ooh, kick to the body. | ||
Well, the whole thing with Wonder Boy is just... | ||
You make a mistake and he counters you. | ||
And so far, Till hasn't really made any mistakes, but Wonderboy's found a few openings, but there's never been like one big bum rush where he left a gap and Wonderboy could drop a ball on him. | ||
Did I miss anything? | ||
Nope, nothing. | ||
But they did show the replay, the knee buckling of Wonderboy. | ||
It looked pretty nasty. | ||
Oh, yeah? | ||
From what? | ||
From that sidekick. | ||
Oh, wow. | ||
From a front leg sidekick to the knee. | ||
But he's moving fine. | ||
It doesn't seem like he's limping at all. | ||
And he threw some kicks with that left leg. | ||
It would be nice. | ||
It's hard to tell. | ||
It would be nice if Wonderboy was a little more aggressive though. | ||
It would be nice. | ||
He'd get knocked out. | ||
He'd get knocked out. | ||
You think so? | ||
Same thing with the Woodley fight. | ||
Everyone's like, oh, be more aggressive. | ||
I can't get fucking starched by Woodley. | ||
That isn't necessarily... | ||
He's a counter fighter. | ||
He's a counter fighter. | ||
Yeah, but still, you gotta... | ||
Well, this is his style, man. | ||
This is his style. | ||
You know, his style is move around. | ||
But the thing is, Till is so high level as well that it's hard for this style to even find its home, you know? | ||
You have an aggressor versus counter-striker. | ||
This is, I don't know what people expect. | ||
It's like early Machida. | ||
Yeah. | ||
How about that Machida front kick to Vitor's face? | ||
How dare you, Machida? | ||
How fucking dare you? | ||
The man signed off fight and went, you know what? | ||
Enjoy the retirement. | ||
He goes! | ||
Yeah, crazy, right? | ||
That was one of the worst knockouts ever. | ||
And then just walks off, bends down, starts praying. | ||
Did you see the photo of the foot on the face? | ||
Yes. | ||
Textbook front kick. | ||
Balls of the feet. | ||
You think Vitor just juices with every Brazilian drug ever? | ||
My heart hopes so. | ||
Me too. | ||
I pray for that at night. | ||
I pray for... | ||
I want a golden, like, master's division. | ||
Yeah, just go off. | ||
I want to see veins in his teeth again. | ||
It's crazy that he's still fighting. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
I know. | ||
Veins in his gums. | ||
Dude, he was around in the early days. | ||
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Yeah, dude. | |
And he's the only guy from the early days still fighting. | ||
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Oh! | |
Yeah. | ||
Underboy caught him with that right hand. | ||
I mean, you could say the same thing for Dan Henderson, but he's officially retired. | ||
Yeah, he's retired. | ||
But Wonderboy... | ||
I mean, Vitor was around UFC 12... | ||
That's crazy. | ||
Dan Henderson was around in 98, so it wasn't much longer afterwards. | ||
Crazy, really. | ||
They fought, right? | ||
Dan Henderson and Vitor? | ||
A couple times. | ||
Yeah, Vitor KO'd him. | ||
Both times? | ||
Yep. | ||
Oh! | ||
Uh-oh! | ||
See, Till's starting to get anxious here. | ||
This one's going to get in trouble, man. | ||
When Wonderboy gets big, it's usually his legs, man. | ||
I mean, his hands are dangerous, but his power is in those fucking legs. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
He's thrown that head kick a few times. | ||
That was a sick slip by Till. | ||
Who does Till train with? | ||
I don't know much about his team. | ||
Come on. | ||
In Liverpool. | ||
Oh, his coach is Colin. | ||
I forget his last name. | ||
Crazy, Wonderboy's dad cranes him, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It'd be a tough dynamic. | ||
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Ooh! | |
Damn, that's not really in. | ||
No, just touched him. | ||
But he did touch him at the very end with that round kick to the face. | ||
He might be fine in an opening for that one-two blitz. | ||
Oh, Till just tagged him with that jab. | ||
I have a hard time believing these judges don't have at 3-0. | ||
Right, right. | ||
In Liverpool, Octagon Control. | ||
I'm not saying it's right. | ||
Well, it depends on who the judges are, too, right? | ||
Are they American judges or the English judges? | ||
They're all morons, though, aren't they? | ||
All around the world. | ||
Unfortunately. | ||
I love the fact that you can say that. | ||
You don't work for anybody. | ||
I know. | ||
Isn't it cool and you can't? | ||
I have no repercussions. | ||
Oh, no. | ||
Till got poked in the eye. | ||
alright get the fuck out of here Mark Goddard's more worried about an eye poked than anybody that Boy, that doctor got in that room quick. | ||
That doctor just jumped in. | ||
God, where'd he come from? | ||
And now he's out. | ||
He's trying to get a little too much TV time. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Oh, definitely didn't mean to. | ||
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Oh, they're booing him? | |
Yeah, he's saying no, don't boo him. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Sometimes I poke to really rev a dude up. | ||
Or a dick kick. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
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Damn. | |
Damn. | ||
Till's getting wild here. | ||
No, don't get too comfortable. | ||
Okay, there you go. | ||
Left hand over the top. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Oh, we got ourselves a cockfight. | ||
Oh, he's getting crazy here. | ||
Dude. | ||
That eye poke, really. | ||
I wish he would have poked that in the first round. | ||
This is the end of the round here. | ||
Oh, now it's trying to get loose. | ||
Now it's about to get fun. | ||
Okay, that was three. | ||
So we got two more to go. | ||
Thank God this is a five-rounder, right? | ||
If that was three rounds, I'd be pissed. | ||
You'd feel so cheated. | ||
I'd talk so much shit on that fight if it's just three rounds and it ended there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Man. | ||
That dude has a prominent forehead cheekbone situation going on. | ||
Yeah, I think Genghis Khan got a little bit of that in him, didn't he? | ||
A little bit of... | ||
He's definitely got some fucking ancient man in him. | ||
Yeah, he does. | ||
I don't look like him. | ||
He definitely... | ||
Boom, that right hand. | ||
That was nice. | ||
I counted him here. | ||
Boom, boom! | ||
Oh, that got him. | ||
He definitely tagged him. | ||
He slid with it. | ||
Yeah, he went with it, but it caught him at the end of it for sure. | ||
Look, one boy doesn't look tired. | ||
This is his style, you know, he's so efficient at doing that. | ||
Oh, both these guys could do this for 10 rounds. | ||
Yeah, round four, here we go. | ||
God, this is a fight that is a great argument for the five-round fight for high-level fights. | ||
Oh, 100%. | ||
I mean, we would feel so bad if we were leaving here and that was it. | ||
Like, who won? | ||
Who cares? | ||
What even happened? | ||
Like, what are the stats on punches and kicks landed? | ||
Yeah, unless you're super into MMA, you'd be so disappointed. | ||
Wonderboy with a hard jab right there, kid. | ||
Dang, Teal better watch his P's and Q's, though. | ||
You're too hard, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
But juice is worth the squeeze if you can get a knockdown. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Damn. | ||
This is getting hot Yeah, cuz yeah, Darren Till's never been five rounds has he? | ||
No, I don't think so. | ||
He hasn't, especially in the UFC. Well, first time. | ||
Because his main event against Cowboy, obviously he starts Cowboy, so he hasn't. | ||
Yeah, that's his first main event, right? | ||
And what about outside of the UFC? How many fights in Brazil? | ||
He had, what, 17? | ||
Or 14, I think. | ||
Crazy, he speaks perfect Portuguese. | ||
Oh, does he? | ||
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I didn't know that. | |
Oh, yeah, man. | ||
Who? | ||
Darren Till. | ||
Goddamn, this kid's remarkable. | ||
When he fought in Brazil, he spoke Portuguese to the crowd. | ||
He lived there for like 10 years, right? | ||
Yeah, I watched one of his older fights where he stopped this guy, and he spoke Portuguese to the crowd after the fight. | ||
Fucked the guy up? | ||
Yeah. | ||
The first 10 fights were there. | ||
Wow. | ||
Yeah, he just went to live down there. | ||
They had to get out of Liverpool because I guess there was a little tox up for him. | ||
Well, he got stabbed. | ||
Yeah, you can see the stab mark. | ||
Where is it? | ||
It's lower, like, on his right side. | ||
He got stabbed in Brazil? | ||
Right above his hip. | ||
In England, he got stabbed. | ||
In Liverpool, in his hometown. | ||
And his coach told him, hey, you gotta get out of here, man. | ||
They need to bend knives in the UK. Enough's enough. | ||
How many more people gotta get stabbed? | ||
Do you know the London mayor actually said that? | ||
If you get caught with a knife, you'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. | ||
What about if I got to open boxes? | ||
The princess's brother-in-law, her brother, got caught with one when he went over there for the royal wedding last week. | ||
Oh, that? | ||
He got caught with a knife? | ||
Yeah, he said he took one because Trump said that you should take one with him. | ||
He was in a bar. | ||
Oh, he's crazy. | ||
Is he crazy? | ||
Her brother's crazy? | ||
She's a dime piece, man. | ||
I'm assuming you two would have nothing. | ||
I don't give a fuck about that. | ||
I'm watching this fight here, son. | ||
Wonderboy with the step-in jab. | ||
Not a lot of action in this fight. | ||
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Oh! | |
Wonderboy looking for that left hand over the top! | ||
Did it land? | ||
Nope. | ||
Just kind of grazed him. | ||
It's kind of hard to tell. | ||
His back was to us. | ||
It's going to be a tough fucking fight to judge, man. | ||
Till's having a hard time hitting him. | ||
That's for damn sure. | ||
Beautiful duck under there. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Till with the clinch. | ||
What if he takes him down? | ||
Do we just stop the fight? | ||
Interesting that Till's the one holding onto him here. | ||
Oh, elbow to the top. | ||
Trying to get that clinch. | ||
His Muay Thai's nasty. | ||
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Good elbow on the break there. | |
If you're one of them, that's exactly what he wanted. | ||
That leg's kind of fucked up, that lead leg, right leg. | ||
Yep, it does look a little bruised. | ||
Ooh, good kick to the body. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
You guys watch that show, Cobra Kai? | ||
No, I haven't seen it. | ||
I've heard great things. | ||
It's supposed to be good. | ||
Yeah, no, it's great. | ||
That's a crazy welt on Wonderboy's leg. | ||
I really haven't noticed him getting hit that much. | ||
Me neither. | ||
It's on both legs, too. | ||
Obviously, the right leg's worse with that. | ||
Left leg's pretty tender, Roni, too. | ||
The right leg looks really fucked up. | ||
Yeah, it does. | ||
I don't really remember him kicking him that hard. | ||
It must have been when he was standing southpaw. | ||
Sideways, you know? | ||
And now he hasn't gone back then, has he? | ||
Really? | ||
Not much. | ||
Not this round. | ||
Doesn't like it. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
I mean, his footwork's just stupid, so Darren Till can't really get a read on him. | ||
But again, the judges are giving that to Till. | ||
Yeah, nothing big has happened where you go, oh, that guy definitely is in control of the fight. | ||
If someone just knocks someone down, you've got the fight. | ||
The judges are like, oh, he got it. | ||
Good right hand of the body So such a high-level chess game here, I know All right, which I did get on the edge of my seat, but if you're just a regular fan, come on, man. | ||
I tell you what, who's going to get more shit is Wonderboy because of his Woodley fights, which is obviously not his fault. | ||
Yeah, but this is like... | ||
No, it's not his fault. | ||
I'm just saying the public's going to give him shit. | ||
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I guess. | |
I don't know. | ||
It's what it is. | ||
So this is the... | ||
I mean, you want to beat him. | ||
You've got to come after him. | ||
When you come after him, you run into the wood chipper. | ||
But the thing is, he's not winning when he does this... | ||
But he didn't win against Woodley when he did this, for sure. | ||
But he's won previously. | ||
Yeah, he's obviously got number one for a reason. | ||
He's number one in the world. | ||
Something happened there. | ||
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God, that back leg is fucked up, man. | |
Yeah. | ||
A little too friendly, boys. | ||
A little too friendly. | ||
Yeah, he's wobbling a little on the back to his corner. | ||
That leg is fucked up, man. | ||
Maybe they just get loose in this fifth round. | ||
They're saving it for the fifth round, Eddie. | ||
I hope so. | ||
Me too. | ||
Because again, if it stopped right here, I'd be bummed out. | ||
I'd be like, okay. | ||
This fight's been pretty lackluster. | ||
They're going to give it to Till. | ||
Oh, 100%. | ||
You think so? | ||
Every round they give to him. | ||
And then one judge is like, we don't want to make it too obvious, and then give one to Wonderboy. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'd say he's up three to one. | ||
Till? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Really? | ||
Because of the judges. | ||
Yes. | ||
But not because of what you think, right? | ||
Even then, it'd be tough. | ||
You could maybe go two to two, but I'd say Till's winning this fight. | ||
I don't know about that. | ||
I think Wonderboy's winning. | ||
Can I get some goddamn Compustrike numbers, Fox? | ||
I know. | ||
No wonder they left your ass. | ||
Just kidding. | ||
Can I get something? | ||
How's your show going on Showtime? | ||
Enjoying it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
It's been good, man. | ||
It's been fun. | ||
Nice. | ||
It's been a lot of fun. | ||
Did you know that guy that just died? | ||
From the comedy division? | ||
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Yeah. | |
I did not. | ||
Did you? | ||
No. | ||
Everybody seems to think he's a... | ||
I might have met him, but everybody seems to think he's a really good guy. | ||
That sucks, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
55, man. | ||
I know. | ||
Such a shame. | ||
Crazy. | ||
Burt loved the guy. | ||
Oh, yeah? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Burt had something real nice to say about him. | ||
So did Dice. | ||
That's a bummer, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Till's super aggressive here coming out from the fifth. | ||
Yeah, I'm sure he wants to get the finish. | ||
Probably feels a little bit of pressure. | ||
And he should. | ||
Okay, they're saying Darren Till's corner is very urgent. | ||
Like he's losing the fight? | ||
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Yeah. | |
I think he's losing. | ||
You do? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, I think if I would count up all the different strikes, I think... | ||
Strikes that landed? | ||
Yeah, I think... | ||
Close according to the UFC thing. | ||
Close in terms of strikes landed? | ||
Yeah, it says 48 to 42. Goddamn! | ||
That's tough to judge. | ||
Yeah, that's impossible to judge. | ||
And then you have one aggressor, right? | ||
In Liverpool. | ||
Isn't that crazy? | ||
Five rounds, 48 strikes landed. | ||
That is just bananas. | ||
A lot of defense going on. | ||
Yeah. | ||
A lot of missing as well. | ||
A lot of movement. | ||
Bush Townsend, you'd think would make for a great roll. | ||
Ooh, there's a good right hand by Till. | ||
A little jab to the grill face. | ||
Sidekick. | ||
No one's really going balls to the wall, are they? | ||
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No. | |
Darren Till would go balls to the walls, but Wonderboy keeps moving. | ||
It's hard. | ||
The whole fucking righty keeps moving. | ||
You don't get blasted in the face. | ||
Yeah, it's hard. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
Just sit there for us. | ||
What was that about? | ||
He threw a shitty wheel kick and then shook his head and then they touched gloves. | ||
It's fucking weird. | ||
Oh! | ||
Switched up on him. | ||
Those two are a little too friendly for my liking. | ||
He's looking to set up his wheel kick with his left leg. | ||
Someone throw something. | ||
Anything. | ||
The crowd's like, yeah. | ||
You have them there, Till. | ||
But he doesn't. | ||
Ooh, there he landed a left hand. | ||
Why are they touching? | ||
Why touch dab? | ||
Because he got out of the goddamn corner? | ||
What is that about? | ||
Gorillas don't act like that. | ||
I don't understand this. | ||
They just touch gloves again. | ||
Too much respect. | ||
I know. | ||
There's not enough killer instinct in this. | ||
He's looking for that low fake and then go with the high round kick off the front leg. | ||
He does that sometimes, but he didn't do it. | ||
I'd like to know how many miles they've ran this goddamn fight. | ||
You kind of give it to them for sticking to their foot. | ||
No one's getting out of composure here. | ||
Two pros pros. | ||
No, I get the style. | ||
You don't want to risk it. | ||
But if you're not balls deep into fighting, you're not happy with this fight. | ||
I'm not thrilled with it, but I get it. | ||
This is one of the most uneventful big events. | ||
Ooh, good jabs by Till. | ||
Oh! | ||
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Damn! | |
Big shot by Till! | ||
Guillotine. | ||
Oh, I thought he had it then. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
That's enough to win the fight. | ||
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100%. | |
That's all you needed. | ||
Don't get dropped here. | ||
A little bit of time to go. | ||
A little bit of time to go. | ||
Damn, how hard is that motherfucker hit? | ||
It didn't look like it lay behind the air. | ||
We'd have to look at it in the replay, but look how you hurt him. | ||
That Wonderboy's got to move his ass now. | ||
He lost the fight. | ||
Well, Wonderboy's in trouble now. | ||
He's flat-footed. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Wonderboy could be in a little bit trouble. | ||
almost what tail lifts were damn Wonder Boy would have won two Until just out of range for it to hurt. | ||
This got interesting, that's for sure. | ||
Listen to the crowd, man. | ||
Everyone's on their feet now. | ||
But this is like Wonderboy when he fought Tyron Woodley too, right? | ||
Got tagged, got hurt. | ||
And then people rush in, get dealt with. | ||
Look at this! | ||
Wonderboy would have fucking takedown. | ||
You know shit ain't exciting when someone's shooting for a takedown out of these two. | ||
Oh! | ||
Straight left. | ||
Wonderboy's still dangerous. | ||
It's crazy, right? | ||
40 seconds left, boys. | ||
Maybe Till just thinks he has them in the bag. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
I just think he doesn't want to get tag coming in. | ||
He's a little tired, too. | ||
Mouths open. | ||
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It hasn't been a high pace this year. | |
There's been a lot of footwork, though, so you might be a little... | ||
Well, you've got to remember, Till did have a real hard time cutting that weight. | ||
Oh, and he's been going through a lot. | ||
You're right. | ||
They need some get-downs in this. | ||
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You ain't lying to me. | |
No stand-ups, just get-downs. | ||
Get down. | ||
Yeah, there's no way to give Wonderboy the fight after that. | ||
No. | ||
He'll be hard-pressed. | ||
Especially in Liverpool, it's over. | ||
Oh, man. | ||
Man, Wonderboy's in a tough spot now. | ||
I don't know why he's that happy about that. | ||
That was, um... | ||
I mean, he landed a good shot. | ||
He was trying. | ||
It wasn't like he wasn't trying. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He was moving forward the whole time. | ||
So where would you rank Till after that lackluster performance? | ||
Because Wonderboy's number one. | ||
You don't rank him number one, obviously. | ||
I think you put him in the top. | ||
Wonderboy is just a nightmare for everybody. | ||
He's a nightmare for everybody. | ||
It's tough to look good against him. | ||
A win over him is a win. | ||
You know, he beat him. | ||
That's a big win. | ||
So you put him at number one? | ||
Well, he didn't even make the weight. | ||
So that's where it gets tricky. | ||
You don't know who gives a fuck about that. | ||
Right, but you're saying that they fought... | ||
Here's that front leg sidekick that wobbled his knee. | ||
Good job, Metro PCS, a block in division. | ||
God damn it, Metro PCS. Why would they do that? | ||
Why would they have that right where you need to see? | ||
I'll tell you right now. | ||
If you're my friend of Metro PCS, we are not friends anymore. | ||
Where's the knockdown? | ||
Where's the knockdown? | ||
Do you get angry just because of that? | ||
Well, no, I get angry because the cricket of wireless cell phones now. | ||
Cricket? | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
That was a hard fucking left hand. | ||
Let me see this. | ||
Boom! | ||
Right behind the air. | ||
That was legit. | ||
He clobbered him right there. | ||
Yeah, that was legit. | ||
Right behind the air, huh? | ||
That was as legit as it gets. | ||
That was the legit shot of the fight. | ||
Like, one legit shot. | ||
That's why, like, if you have 49 other strikes that land, do they even count? | ||
I mean, that's a real strike that landed. | ||
Now, do you ever use the word clobber when you're calling fights? | ||
I don't call fights, but clobber's not in my dictionary. | ||
No? | ||
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Clobber! | |
It's too old school? | ||
Clobbering. | ||
Clobberdom. | ||
Clobbering. | ||
Who says, oh, uh, the thing says that, right? | ||
Yeah, the thing from Fantastic Four. | ||
Clobbering time. | ||
Clobbering time. | ||
The Orange guy. | ||
You need to bring that back. | ||
So what do we think here? | ||
What do you think? | ||
Till 100%. | ||
4-1. | ||
Till close decision. | ||
I think Till split. | ||
Someone's going to give it to Wonderboy. | ||
But Till's going to win. | ||
Some rebel? | ||
Some rebel who wants to die in Liverpool. | ||
I want to go out on my shield. | ||
Will they set that place on fire if they do give to Wonderboy? | ||
Liverpool goes hard in the paint. | ||
You know there's some hooligans there. | ||
Yeah, it's going to be a tough exit strategy. | ||
No way Wonderboy wins that. | ||
Is that Adele? | ||
Is that Adele Bird or the fucker name? | ||
Is she in there? | ||
Adelaide Bird? | ||
Adelaide Bird. | ||
They don't fly her out there. | ||
You never know. | ||
She's everywhere, fucker. | ||
Does she go everywhere? | ||
Yeah, she gives lessons on judging and stuff. | ||
You know that? | ||
You don't think they put her in there for a reason? | ||
You know, because she don't give a fuck. | ||
So you think they do it on purpose? | ||
I think they want people to get used to fucked up decisions. | ||
Well, we're used to it. | ||
Yeah, and it's working. | ||
It's working. | ||
Yeah, I think they want that. | ||
Because if they ever needed to pull something out, like something was like, dude, this motherfucker has to win. | ||
You know, people are like, oh, it is Vegas! | ||
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It's Vegas! | |
See, I don't... | ||
Boxing's corrupt as shit, but with MMA, I just think they don't know what they're looking at. | ||
They don't understand it. | ||
They're not asked, correct? | ||
They just don't know. | ||
Either way, it serves the same purpose. | ||
Oh, here we go. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Jamie, can you give us some volume? | ||
It's a split. | ||
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It's a split. | |
Bruce Buffer would be a killer. | ||
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Strip club DJ. Unanimous. | |
Unanimous. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Wow. | ||
He didn't even need that knockdown. | ||
That's a big fight for him. | ||
What were some of those scores? | ||
I couldn't hear it. | ||
49, 47, 48, 47. I gotta take a piss. | ||
49, 46, 49, 46, 48, 47. Well, that's a big victory for him, that's for sure. | ||
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You asked for this fight. | |
You wanted Wonderboy. | ||
You wanted Wonderboy. | ||
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These people are here for you. | |
What does it feel like to get that victory on your wick collar? | ||
I think he said something bad. | ||
I think he used some potty language there. | ||
What do you think? | ||
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I mean... | |
I'm a classic fighter. | ||
They have such a specific way of talking. | ||
I feel like it's so much cooler when they talk like this as a fighter. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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It's pretty cool. | |
13. God, him and Conor sound similar, right? - Not really. | ||
Really? | ||
I'd have to hear him. | ||
What is he saying? | ||
What are they saying? | ||
Boy, fucking censorship. | ||
You know, let me hear the party language. | ||
Yo, what's next? | ||
He said everyone, anyone, I don't care. | ||
Anyone! | ||
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No one! | |
You have people asking me? | ||
You might deserve a tire shot after this. | ||
Goddamn, with the censorship. | ||
ESPN, please let these guys swear. | ||
Please. | ||
Come on. | ||
They're not going to let it. | ||
No way. | ||
It's going to be worse. | ||
Disney owns ESPN. Good call. | ||
Which is a good thing. | ||
They might not even let me do commentary over there. | ||
Have you guys seen Solo? | ||
I'll just talk to you about that. | ||
You out. | ||
Disney took over Star Wars, right? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Have you seen Solo? | ||
No. | ||
Dude, I lasted literally six minutes and I walked out. | ||
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Is that bad? | |
What? | ||
Yes. | ||
No, six minutes? | ||
Give it a shot, bro. | ||
The reason why I walked out, I realized what it is about Star Wars. | ||
In the chase scenes, they use the classic Star Wars music. | ||
That music is just so Indiana Jones, campy, corny. | ||
I couldn't stand it, man. | ||
I walked the fuck out. | ||
And I was ready, dude. | ||
I had fucking Candace. | ||
I was ready. | ||
I had one of those chicken baguettes with the barbecue watermelon sauce. | ||
Barbecue watermelon sauce on chicken. | ||
And you still walked? | ||
As soon as I was done. | ||
I was done with that before the movie even started, the chicken watermelon barbecue. | ||
What'd you go with? | ||
By myself. | ||
You went to see it by yourself? | ||
That's an interesting move. | ||
I went by myself. | ||
Where were you? | ||
At the Arclight in Sherman Oaks. | ||
Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
You showed up by yourself. | ||
How bored were you? | ||
My wife took my son to some birthday party thing, and they were going to be gone for a couple hours, and I just said, you know what? | ||
I like the idea of going to movies. | ||
It's just that they all suck. | ||
But I like going, I like buying some candy. | ||
Buy your solo, though. | ||
It doesn't matter. | ||
I go to movies by myself all the time. | ||
Do you really? | ||
I did. | ||
Not so much since I had a kid, but back in the day, I would go all the time by myself. | ||
I think I've only been maybe three times, not even in my life, by myself. | ||
Only because I want to be able to leave. | ||
If I go with someone else and I got to fucking stay, because nobody likes leaving movies. | ||
No, most people don't like leaving. | ||
So I got to fucking sit there for the whole stupid movie. | ||
I like the freedom to leave. | ||
As soon as I don't give a shit about the movie, I'm out. | ||
I heard Deadpool 2 is amazing. | ||
That was good. | ||
I stayed for that. | ||
I saw that by myself, too. | ||
That was good. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Deadpool 2 is great. | ||
That's an issue move by yourself, brother. | ||
Really? | ||
I appreciate that. | ||
Yeah, I've never... | ||
I just need the freedom to leave. | ||
That's really what that's about. | ||
Dude, that welterweight division is pure fire right now. | ||
Yeah, no kidding, right? | ||
Pure fucking fire. | ||
I think out of all the young guys, out of Colby Covington, Usman, and then Darren Till. | ||
Till, if I had to bet on one of them, being like the world champion, beat Till. | ||
You think so? | ||
Yeah, out of all those three guys. | ||
He's a dangerous motherfucker, that's for sure. | ||
If you trade him with that guy, I mean, the thing that Wonderboy did that was so interesting is he's just never there. | ||
He's just never there. | ||
And it made it a hard fight for Till to keep his composure and fight five hard rounds. | ||
And constantly be chasing him, and Wonderboy's never there. | ||
And Wonderboy tagged him a couple times, but Till was the one that landed the big haymaker. | ||
But you also see Till under control, experienced, still stuck to his technique. | ||
He's going to be tough to beat, man. | ||
Now, I'd like to see him against a guy who has high-level wrestling, like Kobe Kempton or Woodley, or even Usman, super high-level wrestling. | ||
I'd like to see that, where it's not an ideal matchup for him. | ||
See how he performs. | ||
Because Cowboy and Wonderboy are strikers, so it's wheelhouse. | ||
Yep. | ||
Let me see an RDA, an Usman, or a Colby Compton. | ||
Yeah, I would like to see him versus Colby. | ||
I think Colby's a really interesting fight. | ||
That's a good question. | ||
Purple. | ||
He's a purple? | ||
I'm pretty sure he's a purple. | ||
He's been doing it for a while. | ||
But, see, I don't think you do Colby versus Dan. | ||
I don't think you kill off the Young Lions yet. | ||
I think you let the Young Lions go after the Robbie Lawlers, the Cowboys, the RDAs, the Woodleys. | ||
But do you think they do it that way? | ||
Do they think that way? | ||
Or do they just try to make the best fights they can make? | ||
The UFC? Yeah. | ||
How's the UFC saying? | ||
I think it's just whatever the fuck works. | ||
Because this fight doesn't make too much sense for Wonderboy. | ||
Right. | ||
But it's a fun fight for us to watch. | ||
Yeah, very fun fight to watch. | ||
Man, this is a clubbing puncher. | ||
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Yeah. | ||
A lot of power. | ||
Yeah, he's got power. | ||
He's a big fella. | ||
I mean, if they wanted him to have to weigh 188, they know that he's probably well, well north of that. | ||
Probably coming in well north of 200. See, but missing the weight, we don't make a big enough deal of it. | ||
I don't really care either, but it is a problem, man. | ||
It's a huge problem. | ||
It's such an advantage. | ||
But like with Mackenzie Dern, after she missed it, I didn't care. | ||
I'm like, all right, do your thing, girl. | ||
But she missed it by seven fucking pounds, man. | ||
That's so big. | ||
That means it doesn't drain her. | ||
I know. | ||
So when she goes to fight. | ||
It's a huge advantage. | ||
Yeah, she goes to fight. | ||
She's not drained out. | ||
Dude, that Mackenzie Dern fight, holy shit. | ||
That was like some UFC 2 type shit. | ||
She took that chick down, mounted her, pounded her, took her back. | ||
No, she knocked her out. | ||
It was like a hoist versus that Dutch kickboxer with the gi pants. | ||
Remember that guy? | ||
Yeah, but her striking was the impressive thing. | ||
She landed a huge overhand. | ||
Yeah. | ||
She does that in all the fights. | ||
She's not afraid to throw down. | ||
I'm a fan, man. | ||
She's got giant balls. | ||
Her ground game is so high. | ||
She went right through that. | ||
It looked like that chick never trained. | ||
She looked too thick, though. | ||
That fight. | ||
You didn't like it? | ||
I like thick, but then there's like, damn girl, we need a little pride here. | ||
I think it's the way she's dressed. | ||
If she was in a miniskirt with a halter top... | ||
Oh, don't get it twisted. | ||
I'm on board, whatever she's wearing. | ||
I'm just saying that. | ||
Like, glove handles are spilling over the top. | ||
I'm like, all right, now. | ||
Sometimes I like that. | ||
The UFC kit's a little thick. | ||
Sometimes I like that. | ||
Yeah, I'm not mad at it, but... | ||
She's looked better. | ||
It all depends on how much ass goes with the package. | ||
You're right. | ||
The front-to-back ratio. | ||
It depends... | ||
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See, this is why we can't be on ESPN or Fox. | |
Fire me. | ||
Good. | ||
Fire me, I dare you. | ||
Well, he's not even saying that. | ||
Just make me do the pay-per-views. | ||
I'm fine with that. | ||
That's all you do anyway. | ||
I do the previews. | ||
I do the prelims. | ||
Well, I wonder how that's going to go. | ||
I guess the contract comes over. | ||
Does everyone, like the UFC Tonight crew, everyone just folds over? | ||
Well, my contract is with the UFC and I was never working for Fox. | ||
I didn't do the Fox. | ||
But you did before. | ||
Yeah, but one of the stipulations of my newer contract, I said I didn't want to do the Fox events anymore. | ||
And that deals through when? | ||
It's already done. | ||
It's already done. | ||
This year, I don't do any of the Fox events. | ||
If you notice when there are big fights on Fox, I don't do any of them. | ||
Not even the big ones? | ||
Nope. | ||
None of them. | ||
Zero. | ||
He just does pay-per-views. | ||
Stop doing it. | ||
Don't want to do it anymore. | ||
Too much work? | ||
Too much work. | ||
Too much traveling. | ||
This suit is not a big deal because they have the suit there for me. | ||
But my issue was Fox actually paid me less money. | ||
Less money to do the events on Fox. | ||
I was like, you guys are high. | ||
Never paying you? | ||
Yeah. | ||
I thought the UFC paid you. | ||
It's a Fox event. | ||
It's a Fox event. | ||
I didn't like, when I first started doing it for them, they got in my ear. | ||
The very first events for Fox, they were telling me what to do. | ||
They were telling me to take it down a notch, don't be so amped up about that. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
And I was like, what are we doing here? | ||
I go, listen, I do commentary. | ||
This is what I do. | ||
I've been doing it forever. | ||
This is how I do it. | ||
If you think you can change me, then we're not going to work together. | ||
I'm like, we had a real problem. | ||
And that was a Fox production, right, Joe? | ||
Yes, it was a Fox production. | ||
Was that the Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez? | ||
That was The Pond. | ||
Yeah, I believe that was the first one. | ||
Yeah, but it's just... | ||
I just didn't like it. | ||
They want a sports guy. | ||
Look, MMA is what it is. | ||
It's fighting. | ||
It is a very specific kind of sport. | ||
And I've been doing it the way I do it forever. | ||
If you don't like the way I do it, that's fine. | ||
Don't hire me. | ||
But don't try to get me to become some sports guy. | ||
I'm not interested in that at all. | ||
When I commentated for Pride, they told me I said nice too much. | ||
I said, no, say nice. | ||
They're like, no. | ||
They couldn't even speak English, and they thought I said nice a lot. | ||
I said, nice shot, nice jab. | ||
To their credit, they stopped doing it after the first event when I voiced my displeasure. | ||
I just let them know really clearly, we're not doing this. | ||
I'm not going to change how I do it to make you happy. | ||
I don't need to do this. | ||
I'm helping you guys out. | ||
Well, it's not even that. | ||
It's just like, if you don't like the way I do it, it's not an option for you to direct me and tell me to do it the way you like it. | ||
Because you think that that's better. | ||
This is a personal choice by one or two, whoever the fuck the people were, that were producers or executives. | ||
I don't agree with them, and I'm not doing it that way. | ||
It's real simple. | ||
If you bought a Ferrari and it had a certain sound to it, and you're like, man, I don't like this sound. | ||
Can you guys go back to the factory and fix these mufflers? | ||
They'd be like, what are you, high? | ||
This is what a Ferrari is. | ||
You don't like it, then you like Ferraris. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
I like a Ferrari, but I want it to sound like a Corolla. | ||
It doesn't work. | ||
They'd be like, no. | ||
Probably a bad analogy, but the idea behind it you get. | ||
This is what I do. | ||
I get amped up. | ||
If some shit is going down and these guys are throwing blows and I'm screaming, it's because I feel that way. | ||
Some would call it passion. | ||
Well, it's legitimate passion. | ||
I'm not faking it, but they didn't want that. | ||
But they let it go after a while, but it's not like they fought for me when I quit either. | ||
How long is the Reebok deal for? | ||
Three years, I think. | ||
Another three years? | ||
Two to three years. | ||
I wonder if it worked out for Reebok. | ||
Is Reebok exploding now because of this? | ||
Well, Adidas owns Reebok, so Adidas is killing it. | ||
But I don't know if Reebok's exploding. | ||
They're in their niche, right? | ||
They're MMA, they're in with CrossFit, so they're in that world. | ||
And to Reebok's defense, you know, they made the offer. | ||
They don't know. | ||
They didn't know what the deal was. | ||
They didn't know they were screwing over fighters. | ||
It's more of a UFC thing. | ||
It was not Reebok. | ||
Reebok's like, whoa, the fuck? | ||
It seemed like even the UFC wasn't aware of how much fighters were actually making off of sponsorships. | ||
You and I know that there was some debate as to whether or not... | ||
They had a distorted perception of how much some fighters were making. | ||
I don't think they care. | ||
I think they talk to maybe the top 10 guys and like, hey, we're going to pay you this. | ||
We'll take care of you in this way. | ||
And then the rest of the guys get on board. | ||
But again, I get it, man. | ||
I'm not making decisions based off those 10 to 15 top guys. | ||
I'm making decisions that's going to affect my bottom line. | ||
Which is what they did. | ||
One judge in the Jason Knight fight gave every round of Jason Knight. | ||
So one judge did look at it like you, like he was on his back and he did get taken down, but he was the one that was aggressive on the ground. | ||
Yeah, I agree with that. | ||
I don't think you just take a guy down and have one thing you do and then be in control. | ||
Yeah, it's just being educated. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I gotta get out of here soon, boys. | ||
Let's wrap this motherfucker up. | ||
Eddie Bravo, tell everybody you're at Tinfoil Hat Comedy at Cobbs. | ||
Yeah, this Friday at Cobbs in San Francisco, Saturday in Sacramento. | ||
Punchline. | ||
At the Punchline. | ||
The Punchline, Sacramento? | ||
I love that place. | ||
And then I'm at the Ice House on the 15th, June 15th of the Ice House, one show only. | ||
And then I'm in Houston, Houston Improv, the 22nd, 23rd, June 26th, 23rd. | ||
You can get your tickets at livenation.com. | ||
tfatk.com. | ||
All right, we love you guys. | ||
Bye. |