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April 29, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - April 28, 2018
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brendan schaub
01:03:06
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eddie bravo
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joe rogan
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jamie vernon
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andy stumpf
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joe rogan
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
unidentified
$15?
Oh, something.
3, 2...
Boom!
joe rogan
And we're live, ladies and gentlemen!
Live!
Mauro Ranallo and Big John McCarthy!
Eddie Bravo rocking the old-school Elio Gracie shirt.
I love that shirt.
unidentified
Respect.
joe rogan
Deep respect.
Brendan motherfucking shop.
Oh, and I got a Sugar Sean O'Malley shirt.
I might strip down later and put this motherfucker on.
brendan schaub
Is that the best shirt Reebok's ever made?
joe rogan
Might be one of the dopest shirts in history.
brendan schaub
It's pretty great.
joe rogan
Reebok.
brendan schaub
Reebok's getting better, man.
I'll give it to him.
joe rogan
I'm wearing a pair of Reeboks, right?
brendan schaub
Oh, no.
joe rogan
I thought I was.
brendan schaub
I thought I was for a second too.
joe rogan
I had them on earlier today.
Reebok sent me a bunch of sneakers.
But that's a dope shirt right there.
brendan schaub
You know me, I was super critical on them for a while.
They're getting way better, man.
Way better.
This is good.
When they posted that, I got my boy who works at Reebok.
I sent him a screenshot and went, God damn, you guys hit this one out of the park.
joe rogan
They're embracing it.
They're embracing the fact that he's a stoner.
Like, heavy duty.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's just a fun shirt.
joe rogan
He talks about me?
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
What code is Instagram?
Dude's getting high all day.
brendan schaub
Didn't you see him on the last...
How does he fight?
joe rogan
Well, he just takes time off.
You don't have to take much time off anymore.
brendan schaub
Three weeks or something, right?
No.
Two weeks?
joe rogan
Two days.
unidentified
Two days?
joe rogan
Two days.
Yeah, the new USADA rules.
You just can't be high when you fight.
brendan schaub
Depending where you fight, though, right?
Because there's some issues coming up.
I forget which state, but they do it different.
joe rogan
Probably Texas, right?
brendan schaub
The commissions are haters.
joe rogan
So, Dylan Dennis, this is not his MMA debut?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
Oh, against Kyle Walker.
And Eddie, tell us about Dylan's jiu-jitsu.
He's pretty high level.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's one of the best around, for sure.
He had an amazing match with Gordon Ryan at 2017 Abu Dhabi.
I mean, the fight was really close.
It could have went either way, and the judges' decision gave it to Gordon, and Gordon went on to win his division.
So he's top of the food chain.
eddie bravo
And he was with Marcelo Garcia.
brendan schaub
He got his black belt for Marcelo Garcia.
joe rogan
Yeah, Marcelo kicked him out for shit-talking, right?
Is that the deal?
eddie bravo
He started hanging out with Conor McGregor, and Marcelo Garcia's The opposite of that kind of shit.
Super humble.
brendan schaub
Incredibly humble.
joe rogan
Yeah, you would think, though, that Marcelo and him would work it out, though.
Give a guy a black belt, and the guy's a high-level black belt.
brendan schaub
It was just too much drama.
unidentified
It was a lot of drama.
joe rogan
But if you've ever met Dylan in real life, he's a super nice guy.
brendan schaub
He's a great guy.
joe rogan
He's just trying to make some money.
He's smart.
brendan schaub
He talked shit to Jon Jones tonight.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Oh, that's stupid.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
All these guys talking shit to Jon Jones are eventually going to have to meet him.
And they will get slapped.
brendan schaub
But then I saw Dylan when the Conor and Floyd fight, me and him sat next to each other.
He was the nicest guy in the world, man.
joe rogan
Look at his stance.
He's very Conor McGregor-esque with that stance.
brendan schaub
Same coaching, right?
Same coaching, same camp.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
He's got real problems with his striking.
That dude just stepped in and cleaned him with that left.
Oh, no!
Dude, he got some problems.
His stand-up is super rudimentary.
brendan schaub
I wonder how his takedowns are.
joe rogan
They better be good.
brendan schaub
Well, he's kind of like the Mackenzie Dern, right?
Of Bellator.
joe rogan
Well, he's obviously closing the distance, too, which is a problem because it's obvious you're coming in.
The guy could just wait on you.
brendan schaub
His distance control is awful.
joe rogan
But several times he's been clipped by that left hand.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
If this guy...
Can keep this fight standing.
Okay, yeah.
His kicks are stiff.
Yeah.
But his jiu-jitsu is the shit if he gets his fight to the ground.
brendan schaub
He's kind of like an alley cat version of Conor.
Like super alley cat.
Real rough.
joe rogan
He pulls back with his chin straight up in the air, too.
brendan schaub
He needs to get a clinch.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
brendan schaub
He needs to get the underhook.
joe rogan
For sure.
brendan schaub
There you go.
I like it.
It doesn't happen enough, Eddie.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't happen enough.
brendan schaub
If you can't take the guy down and you're dangerous off your back, pulling guard is great.
He's about to get him an arm bar right here.
joe rogan
This is good.
This guy's in trouble.
brendan schaub
This guy knows the gig.
This guy's going to pull out of this shit.
joe rogan
He wants a leg lock.
unidentified
He's going to heel hook him.
brendan schaub
He's got him.
It's in deep.
It's over.
joe rogan
This guy's fucked.
There he goes.
And that's a wrap.
I think he's okay.
brendan schaub
He pulled guard and got a heel hook.
Pretty sweet.
Beautiful.
Yeah.
Perfect opponent.
I don't have a problem giving him a warm-up fight like this.
First one, first MMA fight, your Bellator?
He's still down.
Could be worse.
Could be in Pico, your first fight.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Just those things, man, when I see a dude get his knee ripped apart like that, like, that dude's fucked.
Look at him.
He's in pain.
brendan schaub
You could get your shoulder ripped apart in a Kimura the exact same way.
joe rogan
Oh, I know, but it's weird, right?
I mean, I'm not saying it makes sense.
brendan schaub
You just got to know when to tap.
joe rogan
That's it.
brendan schaub
I think the problem is guys aren't too familiar with what goes on with the leg locks, so by the time they're tapping, it's too late.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what I'm saying is, for whatever reason, for me, when I watch it, I cringe more with leg locks.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Like, if I see a guy get his arm broken, it doesn't bother me.
Like, I see a guy get his knee ripped apart.
brendan schaub
Is it because we're not used to seeing it?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
Maybe it's because I know the tap.
Like, you only have so much time to tap.
Like, your shit's gonna explode.
Maybe it's just...
I don't know.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
But when a guy's really good at it, you know, if you fuck up an ankle, he's out for a grip.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yep, yep.
Oh, yeah, that's a nasty one.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, a toehold.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Nasty toehold.
brendan schaub
I had a bad angle.
It was a toehold.
That was a heel hook initially.
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought so too.
brendan schaub
But they didn't really show it, though.
You couldn't see his back was due, right, Eddie?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
I mean, I like the fact that he's in there, but man, I feel like just watching him move with his stand-up, I'd like to see him...
brendan schaub
That's his first fight, brother.
joe rogan
I know, but I'd like to see him...
Get some more stand-up training.
Just, it seems like...
I mean, look, if he gets guys to the ground, they're in a world of shit.
But you can see from his stand-up, it's like rudimentary.
brendan schaub
It's super amateur, but how is that any different than Michael Venom-Page?
You has zero jiu-jitsu, or so much as zero jiu-jitsu.
You know what I'm saying?
Because he starts on the feet, but for Dale and Danis, he's as straight-up black belt as they get when it comes to the ground.
It's true.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
You know Michael Venom-Page's tap people.
He's tapped people with networks and shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm just saying.
joe rogan
I don't think his jiu-jitsu is as bad as you think.
brendan schaub
Not Michael Van Page.
He's no Dylan Dennis.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
But Paul Daly.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good example.
brendan schaub
Jiu-jitsu's awful.
Yeah, if you're high-level at one aspect, whether it's wrestling, jiu-jitsu, or striking, if you're super high-level, world-class, you can suck at the other two.
It doesn't matter.
I mean, look at Melvin Manhoof.
He's so dangerous on his feet, he doesn't really have any jiu-jitsu, but it's okay.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
People still want to see him fight.
Look at Damian Meyer, Jake Shields.
joe rogan
Exactly.
I see a guy like Dylan Dennis, who's so good on the ground, I really want him to achieve a certain level of striking proficiency.
brendan schaub
Before he fights?
joe rogan
Before he fights, yeah.
Yeah, I just feel like a wrestler is going to put him in a world of shit.
brendan schaub
The other thing, Joe, he's never been in that cage before.
So maybe in training, he's putting it all together.
You're ready to go.
He gets in there, he's like, damn.
Maybe his nerves, never felt those nerves inside the cage.
joe rogan
And he took those shots, too.
Took those shots on the chin well.
He got hit with a couple good clean left hands.
brendan schaub
And he adjusted.
I'm sure, I'm about a million percent sure the plan wasn't to go out there and pull guard.
eddie bravo
The fact that he realized, oh shit, this guy's tagging me, and he was kind of hesitant to get in tight to get a takedown, pulling guard showed that he can adapt.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at it at all.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure that was probably in the plan, you know, plan B, plan C. But if he gets guys to the ground, they're in a world of shit.
brendan schaub
Most fighters, they don't have it in their plan to pull guard.
Most don't.
Not the ones that I've talked to.
It's never part of the plan.
Like, if this doesn't work or that doesn't work, I'm going to pull guard.
eddie bravo
It's either, I'm going to try to take him down until the bitter end.
joe rogan
Speaking of pulling guard, you know Kamaru Usman's fighting Damian Maia?
brendan schaub
Yes, Damian Maia took on short notice.
How's that weight cut, son?
joe rogan
That's not good.
Was he supposed to be fighting Ponzinobio?
brendan schaub
Yes.
And what happened?
He got hurt.
A knee injury, right?
joe rogan
Man.
brendan schaub
That car has taken a hit because then our boy, No Time...
Isn't fighting Shogun.
So they have to move it because of his...
Since he lives in Germany...
Well, because of his things going on in Florida with the felony or whatever he's waiting on, he can't travel.
joe rogan
Oh, so he has to hide?
brendan schaub
Yeah, so he can't travel to Chile, so they have to do it there.
joe rogan
Oh, he beat somebody out of Florida, right?
brendan schaub
The fight's still on, but they have to take it off Chile.
joe rogan
Oh.
brendan schaub
That guard's taking a hit.
Usman's a monster.
joe rogan
He's a monster.
But, you know, Damian Maia is a monster on the ground.
And Usman's, most of his game is the ground.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's ground and pound.
joe rogan
Yeah, most of his game.
It's going to be very interesting to see.
That thing is Big John McCarthy.
brendan schaub
It sounds like a shitty fight, I gotta be honest.
joe rogan
Big John McCarthy's a big motherfucker to be interviewing people.
You know what I mean?
Like, I've seen him interview some flyweights.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a big dude.
joe rogan
It's like, yikes.
brendan schaub
Dylan Dan is about to drop some fire on this mic.
Because, you know, he takes after Connor a little too much.
He's about to drop some pure fire.
What is he saying?
joe rogan
We got some volume, Jamie?
It's not working?
unidentified
You were not going to back down probably.
Talk about that leg lock.
You got to be told how to set it up.
And at the end of the day, I'm a samurai.
I came here to die, so it killed me.
And the leg lock, that's just jiu-jitsu.
I give you guys a free samurai how to defeat MMA with jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Okay, back to the drawing board.
brendan schaub
Free seminar.
joe rogan
He had that one prepared.
Remember the seminar one.
brendan schaub
Don't forget the seminar one.
Also Samurai.
You're willing to die in there because we haven't heard that before.
joe rogan
Yeah, never heard that before.
Come find me, bro.
I'll give you some tips.
We need some work on that shit talking.
brendan schaub
Connor's probably sent a text right now, bro.
joe rogan
Mate.
Tighten it up, mate.
brendan schaub
Find a dolly in the back.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know, he's all fucking weirded out.
brendan schaub
That may have been Connor's line.
Maybe he wrote it for him.
joe rogan
Could be.
unidentified
Tell him you're willing to die.
joe rogan
You're willing to die in there, mate.
brendan schaub
You give him a free seminar?
Dylan Downs can be a beast to beat though.
joe rogan
Especially if Bellator gives him the right matchups.
brendan schaub
Why wouldn't you though?
It's his first fight.
joe rogan
Definitely feed him.
brendan schaub
And he's a wrestler too.
I think he wrestled four or five years growing up.
joe rogan
There's some good fights on this card.
Rafael Lovato versus Gerald Harris.
I like that fight.
That's an interesting fight, man.
Roy Nelson versus Mirko Krokop, they've been giving him the testing, son.
They've been giving him the testing, apparently.
Do you believe they're testing?
When I hear Bellator's testing, I always like, wink, wink.
brendan schaub
That's like the Olympia.
We had tested, bro!
Oh, really?
joe rogan
What are you doing?
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
Do you give him, like, a written test?
brendan schaub
Yeah, come on.
joe rogan
What did you take today?
brendan schaub
Let's get real.
joe rogan
Nothing.
I didn't take nothing.
unidentified
A written test.
brendan schaub
Just a written test.
joe rogan
Dudes are fucking eating hay and snorting around so much equipoise.
brendan schaub
Dude, that's like Canelo.
He came back, he did that hair follicle sample.
But people are saying bullshit, though.
Why?
I guess the way it was done, like, how do we know it's his hair?
It's coming from his camp exclusively.
Oh, is it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's his trainer.
brendan schaub
I was like, come on, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's his camp.
He tested positive for being a 55-year-old trainer.
LAUGHTER That's a bummer, man, that that fight is down because now he's fighting one of Edmund's boys.
He's fighting...
Triple G's fighting...
brendan schaub
My poor soul took that fucking fight.
joe rogan
Some wild ass Armenian.
brendan schaub
Ah, have fun with that.
joe rogan
He's got an Enian.
brendan schaub
He's trained by Edmund?
joe rogan
He's got an Enian name.
One of them Armenian characters.
brendan schaub
Enjoy that, brother.
Enjoy that, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, what are you gonna do?
Glendale in the house.
brendan schaub
I enjoyed that.
joe rogan
Fucking Armenians love to fight, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're tough as they come.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Fedor, 36-5, Frank Mir, 18-11.
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, Fedor, he's looking thick, thick, thick.
joe rogan
Yeah, he don't look good.
They need to let him fight in Japan again.
Get him on the right mixture.
brendan schaub
Frank's looking good.
I just had Frank on my show.
I was like, dude, you are jacked right now.
I was talking about Fedor.
I said, I'd jump to half guard.
He's like, what would you do?
I was like, I wouldn't play that striking battle in the first round.
I'd jump to half guard if I had your half guard.
He's like, get that fucked up.
Fedor's really good on the ground.
eddie bravo
He's good on top.
And his ground and pound is death.
brendan schaub
I know.
eddie bravo
I know, man.
Remember the way he did to Noguera?
joe rogan
Oh, for sure in the day.
brendan schaub
Dude, some of the best.
However, a different game now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm super suspicious about all those old fights now, though.
You know, I'm super suspicious.
brendan schaub
Preach, brother.
joe rogan
Super suspicious.
brendan schaub
Because then he comes here and just gets fucking ran through.
Like a sorority girl.
Well, those Noguera fights.
eddie bravo
Those weren't fake.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That's not what I mean.
That's not what I mean.
I mean steroids.
Of course.
I mean performance-enhancing drugs.
brendan schaub
Of course.
joe rogan
I mean, we're looking at a different human.
That's what I'm thinking.
brendan schaub
But aren't you guys just saying Bellator don't really check?
joe rogan
We're joking around.
They do some check-in.
They do have state athletic commissions.
brendan schaub
They do better than Russia.
joe rogan
We know that.
Well, then Japan.
Japan was encouraging.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
And who knows who was doing what and who wasn't doing what, but when you talk to the guys who were over there like Ensign Inouye, and they'll tell you they had it in capital letters in the contract, we will not test you for steroids.
And then you look at Vanderlei when he weighed 20, 218 when he fought Krokop.
He was heavier than Krokop when he fought Krokop.
I mean, that is just fucking bananas.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but if you look at that, Joe, you can also say that about the UFC till USADA came in.
joe rogan
You definitely can.
You definitely can.
But you can up until the point...
I think it's a hair less.
brendan schaub
But TRT days?
joe rogan
Pride encouraged it, though.
No, not TRT days.
You're right about TRT days.
Like TRTV tour, we always rant about that.
That was legal.
brendan schaub
All those boys...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, the guys who were on TRT, including Frank.
Frank was on TRT for a while.
brendan schaub
They were telling fighters to go up a weight class.
They're like, you know what?
You need to go up and gain some weight.
joe rogan
Well, they were also telling fighters that we'll let you win.
You know, we know guys...
brendan schaub
That was K1. Same shit.
joe rogan
It's Japan.
unidentified
You guys talking some dark web shit right now.
brendan schaub
QAnon shit.
How dare you ruin my childhood?
How dare you?
Probably died tonight.
joe rogan
Listen, there was just a lot of shenanigans going on back in the day, but a lot of it was also they were just trying to compete with the UFC and they were trying to do a big business.
brendan schaub
And it was awesome.
joe rogan
It was awesome.
I mean...
brendan schaub
They were superheroes.
joe rogan
I got one name for you.
Bob Sapp.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
Bob Sapp when he was 375 pounds with abs.
brendan schaub
I love that.
He was so jacked.
joe rogan
He was 370 with abs!
370!
brendan schaub
And, like, not bad cardio.
joe rogan
Wasn't bad.
brendan schaub
Not bad.
joe rogan
Oh, he was on everything, though, bro.
brendan schaub
Every drug they had.
joe rogan
Everything.
They made.
All the EPOs and the EPIs and the EPAs.
He was on the Environmental Protection Agency, the DEA, the FBI, the CIA. He was so big.
brendan schaub
He stood out so big in Japan, he couldn't go anywhere.
joe rogan
Well, you remember when he was like a super-duper star over in Japan?
But then there was a situation with, I believe it was K-1.
They wanted him to sign a contract after he fought.
And he was like, I want the contract before I fucking fight, man.
Like, I gotta see the contract.
And they're like, you know, you fight and then contract.
He was like, fuck you.
This is crazy.
So he walked out of the fight.
And he was done after that.
He was the main event.
brendan schaub
He's lucky he didn't get dealt with.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's lucky he didn't get Yakuza'd.
brendan schaub
Yakuza style.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at this, 57%.
Chael thinks...
brendan schaub
How about Chael has to fight the winner of this?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's crazy.
Dude, how good did Chael look against Rampage?
He looked fucking good.
His wrestling is always good.
He prepares.
He's smart.
I mean, say what you want about Chael Sonnen.
You know, that guy is always prepared.
Neiman Gracie.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
This is interesting.
I don't know anything about Javier Torres.
Do you know anything about Javier Torres?
brendan schaub
Hopefully his jiu-jitsu is good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Probably not as good as Neiman Gracie's.
joe rogan
Interesting.
I mean, no one could say anything.
Look, whatever everybody was on back then, Fedor was still beating everybody's ass.
So if they were all on the same shit, Fedor was still beating everybody's ass.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but the caveat to that is when he came over to the U.S., he got dealt with with our guys.
joe rogan
Yes, pretty quickly.
brendan schaub
He struggled with Brett Rogers, right?
Struggled a little bit with him.
Gets dealt with with Dan Henderson.
Henderson beat the fuck out of him.
He beat Orlovsky.
joe rogan
Bigfoot Silva fucked him up.
Yeah, he beat Orlovsky.
He beat Orlovsky in affliction.
There was no testing in affliction.
That affliction thing was the wild, wild west.
They were t-shirt guys throwing a huge event.
eddie bravo
Wasn't Orlovsky in the air when he got hit?
joe rogan
He was winning the fight.
brendan schaub
He was whooping his ass through a flying knee.
joe rogan
He was dealing with him in the stand-up, and then he did something real stupid, and he got clipped with a haymaker.
That was such a crazy knockout, too.
brendan schaub
That was such a cool fight.
joe rogan
Because Arlovsky front-kicked him to the gut.
He was boxing him up.
He looked good.
Arlovsky looked good.
But he did something really nutty, and then all of a sudden, boom!
brendan schaub
The bomb dropped.
So, Fedor, Tim Silva under Arlovsky.
joe rogan
Tim Sylvia fight was amazing.
brendan schaub
Good fight.
joe rogan
That was amazing.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
joe rogan
He looked like Fedor in that fight.
brendan schaub
And then the Strikeforce.
Then you got Elite XC, right?
And you got Brett Rogers, Dan Henderson, Bigfoot Silva, Verdum.
Was it Elite XC? Was it Elite XC when he fought Bret Rogers?
I want to say it's Strikeforce.
joe rogan
I think it's Strikeforce.
I think Elite XC was just Kimbo.
I don't think...
brendan schaub
Bret Rogers was Elite XC. Am I going crazy?
joe rogan
I think you're going crazy.
Because remember Strikeforce, Bret Rogers fought Overeem when Overeem was Overeem and Overeem fucked him up.
He hit him with a leg kick like 15, 20 seconds into the fight.
One of those thudding, Holland-style leg kicks.
And then you see Brett Rogers' face like, oh, shit.
brendan schaub
That's not snowflake.
joe rogan
No, but Overeem hit him with some technique.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hit him with that real technique.
brendan schaub
That's why the argument for Stipe being the best heavyweight of all time is a legit argument, because he's fought clean, he's never been...
joe rogan
Well, he's defended the UFC title, which is the hardest title to defend in terms of historically.
No one's defended it more than him.
He defended it three times.
andy stumpf
Nobody else beat two.
brendan schaub
The only issue with that, if you want to argue against Deepin, I'm not.
I think he's the best of all time.
Him or Kane.
But if you want to argue that, you're going to say, well, the guys he's beat aren't in their prime.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
I think that's true.
What?
There's a Scientology network.
What?
Curious?
unidentified
Yeah, they just started it recently.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
And they're advertising it on Paramount?
Holy shit.
unidentified
Curious?
joe rogan
Oh boy, Paramount.
Despa is Paramount.
brendan schaub
Well, they might be paying.
That's Tom Cruise money, son.
You ever drive by Scientology building?
I drove by it last night.
joe rogan
I got the test once.
brendan schaub
I want in in there.
joe rogan
I got the test.
I went to one of those things.
brendan schaub
No, you didn't.
joe rogan
I held the cans.
Yeah.
I was filming a TV show for CBS, and we were outside in San Diego.
And while we had some downtime, they had this thing set up, like a stress test.
And you go and you hold onto these cans, and they ask you questions.
brendan schaub
I want to say Brian did stand-up in there.
Someone asked me to go up there and do...
Either he did stand-up or like a TED Talk or some shit in a Scientology building.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did something weird in there.
Yeah, he did something weird.
joe rogan
Well, he was taking acting lessons with a guy who was a rabid Scientologist.
And then I went to see Brian's acting teacher sing songs from musicals.
Not even a musical, just the songs from the musical.
Sounds horrible.
Oh, it was amazing.
It was great.
Me and Brian were high as Jesus on the space shuttle.
I mean, we were gone.
We were hugging each other while it was going on.
We couldn't believe how ridiculous it was.
unidentified
We're like, oh!
brendan schaub
He either did like a motivational talk or stand up there, though.
joe rogan
Well, he was, you know, there's a thing about acting classes.
A lot of, my ex-girlfriend, one of her acting classes when I first moved to LA and I started dating this chick was an actress.
Her acting class was a Scientology-based acting class.
And apparently it's really common.
There's a lot, or at least it was at the time.
brendan schaub
Isn't the gig kind of up with everything coming out?
With that Leah Ramey or whatever her name is?
joe rogan
Leah Ramey.
Yeah, it should be.
brendan schaub
Like, the gig's up.
unidentified
It should be.
brendan schaub
Like, now there's the internet, there's podcasts around which full of shit it is.
joe rogan
Yo, some people are just dying to get took.
They're just dying.
brendan schaub
I mean, someone's like, yo, Brenton, you can be the next fucking Expendable Seven.
You just gotta jump into the Scientology.
I'd probably check it out.
joe rogan
Well, it happens with girls.
With girls, apparently, they come to them and they'll arrange, like, boyfriend stuff.
Situations and wedding situations.
brendan schaub
That's what happened with Tommy Cruz, right?
joe rogan
Allegedly.
brendan schaub
Katie Holmes.
joe rogan
Allegedly.
brendan schaub
She said, fuck that noise.
Now she's with Jamie Foxx.
What's up?
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
I work for E. What's up?
joe rogan
What's up?
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
Jamie Foxx laying it down.
Damn.
I know.
Shit.
Fuck you, talkers.
Shit.
joe rogan
Tom Cruise is laying low right now.
He apparently did some crazy ass stunt for Mission Impossible where they had to film it like a hundred times.
brendan schaub
Did you see it?
joe rogan
No, I heard it.
brendan schaub
Jamie hit it.
You didn't see it?
He jumped from building to building.
He does all his own stunts.
He is a badass.
unidentified
He does?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does all his own stunts.
Even when he's flying out of the helicopter, he doesn't let anyone else do it.
He's jumping from building to building, and he just barely misses it, and from another building going down, he lands foot first, like, into the building, and his fucking ankle goes, cut!
It's like Jackie Chan broke his shit, and he's like, cut!
He still, like, finishes the take, and he's like, mm-mm, mm-mm, and they have to stop filming.
joe rogan
Wow, I need to see this.
brendan schaub
He's a bit of a badass.
joe rogan
And he's 53?
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
He's not young.
He's not young.
brendan schaub
Kind of killing it, though.
joe rogan
Listen, that Scientology shit is real.
It's got him convinced.
brendan schaub
It's real, son.
joe rogan
We need to see this.
brendan schaub
That L. Hubbard shit.
joe rogan
It's got him convinced.
brendan schaub
How do they have so much power in Hollywood?
How does that work?
Just Tom Cruise alone?
Him and John Travolta.
joe rogan
He's got this cord attached to him.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
Boom!
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Watch this angle.
brendan schaub
Boom!
joe rogan
Yo, that is crazy.
brendan schaub
But you're Tom Cruise.
Look at this.
Oh, shit!
Snap this shit son Damn, you know, I'm gonna see mission impossible night.
You see his face is just cuz that Shit the finishes though like a baller That's top gun, son.
God damn.
joe rogan
Well, you say fucking animals.
That's a quite a jump - That's a quite a distance.
brendan schaub
You know all the scenes in the helicopter and all that where he's hanging out?
Yeah, that's all him.
joe rogan
And he's white.
brendan schaub
White.
joe rogan
See that jump?
White men can jump.
brendan schaub
He can.
He had a rope.
joe rogan
He definitely had a rope.
brendan schaub
That's true.
That is true.
joe rogan
But if that rope wasn't there, he would have lived.
Right?
He made it.
He actually made it.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
The rope didn't help him.
brendan schaub
You don't think they're kind of like...
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
Watch it again.
Play it again.
brendan schaub
I don't know if there's no rope if he makes that.
Does the rope kind of hold him back?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
The rope's carrying him.
joe rogan
The rope's carrying him?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, so the rope's assisting him?
brendan schaub
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
All right, let me see.
brendan schaub
Yeah, for sure.
It looked like the rope was behind him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I thought the rope was just to catch him.
brendan schaub
Cautionary?
joe rogan
Because the rope, like, that's a weird thing.
The rope is assisting him.
Like, man, how do you even plan that?
brendan schaub
That's kind of cool.
The rope kind of catapults you.
Well, maybe assist him.
The rope is behind him.
joe rogan
No, the rope's behind him.
That rope is not helping.
Oh, and there's one above him, too.
unidentified
Oh, there's one above him, too.
brendan schaub
There's two.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's also to catch him so he doesn't fall all the way down and die.
Yeah, well, that's what it's for.
That's what my point was.
brendan schaub
I still think he has hops.
I still think he has a little bit of athletic ability.
I bet it looked like his Achilles tendon tore off.
joe rogan
Yeah, that looks like the rope's carrying him.
brendan schaub
I bet he has drugs that we don't even know about to fix that ankle.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get that from Mars.
They get that shit from...
They pull it out of the fake rocks that they pull out of Mars.
Here's another one.
Let me see the other one.
unidentified
He hung on the side of the plane.
joe rogan
Well, that's fun.
And is he attached with a rope, too?
unidentified
Yeah, a little bit, but...
brendan schaub
Still, though.
What other A-lister does this shit?
unidentified
He still really gets taken off.
He's hanging there.
brendan schaub
That's nuts.
That's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
That's bananas.
unidentified
That man's crazy.
eddie bravo
He has a rope, though, right?
joe rogan
You know, you'd be surprised at how hard it is to hang for long periods of time.
You know, when I hurt my shoulder and I started hanging, you know, just holding onto a bar and hang, I was stunned at how little...
brendan schaub
How weak you are?
unidentified
How...
joe rogan
I do a lot of chin-ups, but I can't hold on for more than two minutes.
brendan schaub
It's something you have to condition, for sure.
joe rogan
You've got to really condition the shit out of yourself.
Do you think you're going to save your ass and hang on the side of a plane?
brendan schaub
No, you're screwed.
joe rogan
No, you're dead.
You can't do it.
brendan schaub
Oh, Dan, why'd you push the camera away like that?
joe rogan
He's like, get out of my face, bitch.
You've got that camera too close to me.
brendan schaub
I'm about to choke someone out, son.
joe rogan
We had a Fear Factor episode once where people had to hang from, there was a bridge, and there was a bar on the bridge, and it was men and women, and you hung as long as you could hold it until you dropped into the water.
And the girls beat the guys.
brendan schaub
How long were they holding?
joe rogan
Because they were lighter.
brendan schaub
Do you remember that?
joe rogan
Not very long.
Not very long.
brendan schaub
A few minutes?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
No, I don't think anybody beat, like, two minutes and 20 seconds or some shit.
Here we go.
Neiman Gracie, ready to choke a motherfucker.
brendan schaub
That's how I saw him fight was on that Newark Mets Square Garden card.
I think it's Henzo's nephew.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He looks hyper-aggressive.
He looks like a Henzo nephew.
brendan schaub
Big kid, man.
joe rogan
And so the other guy is Javier Torres?
Is that his name?
Does it say James?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Did you see Roy McDonald asking Ben Askren to sign with Bellator?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And Ben Askren wants to do it, too.
Ben Askren still owes fights with 1FC, though.
So they would have to do some sort of a co-promotion.
brendan schaub
He's under contract with them?
joe rogan
Yeah, he owes two fights.
brendan schaub
He owes two fights with 1FC. Hey, 1FC, I know you're listening.
Do us all a solid.
Do all the hardcores a solid.
Let them out, man.
joe rogan
They're never going to let them out.
What they would do is they would co-promote.
And it's possible.
brendan schaub
Not if he wants to fight in the UFC. It's possible.
Oh, hell.
joe rogan
The UFC co-promoting with 1FC? It would have to be favorable conditions with the UFC where they just make some sort of a deal.
brendan schaub
1FC can stream it or some shit?
joe rogan
Yeah, something.
It would have to be something, or they give them a piece of the revenue, but it would have to be a very small piece.
brendan schaub
The odds are already against him to sign with the UFC, and then you go, alright, now you've got to make this deal with the 1FC, and Dana's going to kick rockets, man.
joe rogan
Well, what he should do is he should get out of that contract.
brendan schaub
And just smoke two dudes real fast?
joe rogan
Yeah, just smash two dudes.
Just give me two cans.
He's the can crusher over there.
brendan schaub
Rich Franklin's the guy who does the...
How dare you call him King Crusher?
joe rogan
Matt Hume is too.
Matt Hume's a part of 1FC as well.
brendan schaub
Those fellas know what's up.
Let's get one of the greatest fights of all time rolling, my man.
joe rogan
Well, who would you have him fight?
Woodley?
His friends with Woodley.
brendan schaub
They're training partners.
I'd have him fight GSP first, and then I'd have him fight Khabib.
joe rogan
Do you think GSP would take that fight?
unidentified
Khabib.
brendan schaub
Khabib.
joe rogan
But nobody knows who Askren is outside of the hardcore fans.
brendan schaub
He said he would.
Khabib said he would.
Khabib wants to go to 70, yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Khabib wants to fight at 70. Oh, shit.
That is the fight I want to see.
brendan schaub
Khabib would?
joe rogan
No, Askren.
brendan schaub
Oh, me too.
joe rogan
Askren, Khabib is what I would want to see.
brendan schaub
That's my number one fight.
joe rogan
Because good luck taking GSP down.
Just good luck.
And good luck standing with him, too.
You know, the stand-up, there's a big gap between...
Ben Askren's stand-up and GSP's stand-up.
brendan schaub
There's a big gap between Ben Askren's grappling and GSP's grappling.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
It's an amazing fight.
unidentified
What?
eddie bravo
There's a big gap between what?
joe rogan
Ben Askren's grappling and GSP's grappling.
unidentified
Really?
eddie bravo
There's a big gap?
joe rogan
Yes.
eddie bravo
There's a big gap.
joe rogan
Ben Askren's a legit Olympian.
Legit Olympian.
Wait, wait, GSP? Yeah.
eddie bravo
GSP and Askren, big gap.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
If they wrestle, Askren rolls them up.
eddie bravo
I don't know about that.
brendan schaub
Okay.
Think how good Woodley is and ask Woodley.
The GSP has more takedowns in UFC history.
joe rogan
You're right, but he never fought a guy at the level of Askren when it comes to wrestling.
In my opinion.
brendan schaub
He's a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
No, you're right.
If it gets to the ground.
brendan schaub
The best guy he fought as far as wrestling credentials, probably Josh Koscheck.
joe rogan
My thought would be that GSP would never let the fight go to the ground.
eddie bravo
Look at these leg locks.
joe rogan
Oh, he's doubled up, too.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
joe rogan
That dude's in trouble.
That dude's in trouble.
It's crazy how leg locks are now making their way much more prominently in MMA now.
You've seen much more leg lock action.
brendan schaub
Unless you're focused on it, I feel like, okay, you're fighting Dylan Danis.
Oh, you have six weeks to get ready for that?
You're not going to learn the leg lock game.
Is that fair, Eddie?
There's no way, right?
No.
If you're going against a high-level leg locker, it's going to take you four years to catch him.
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
So these guys, they're so far behind, they're like, fuck Dylan Danis.
Let's work on leg locks.
It's too late.
joe rogan
Here it is, son.
brendan schaub
He's doing the right thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But his both legs are tied up, man.
He's so stuck.
That's such a gross feeling.
brendan schaub
You could do it in two years.
It doesn't have to be four years.
Average.
Two years if you're with a good coach.
If you're going to try to battle someone at like, you know, Henzo Gracie guy, leg lock level, it's going to take you at least two years to stalemate.
Yeah, that's the thing with MMA is generally in MMA leg locks were thought of as a technique you don't really ever need to even focus on because it just in MMA There were too many people have gotten knocked out going for leg locks So the general consensus is don't really worry about leg locks in MMA. They're too dangerous anyways, but You can get knocked out.
It is dangerous in MMA, but they still work.
You just gotta know which leg lock positions are the safest.
And, you know, if nothing else is working out, if you can't take the guy down, he's beating your ass, and it's the third round, you lost the first two rounds, it's the last round, you know, going for a heel hook, it might be a great idea.
And if you practice them, and if you're good at them, you have hope in that last round.
You know what I mean?
Don't necessarily go for leg locks right away because it is risky.
See if you can take him down first.
See if you can get on top and pass his guard.
See if you can get his back.
If you can't and it's too dangerous, then at some point your coaches and you got to decide, okay, it's time to go to plan B, plan C, and leg locks should always be the last resort.
Remember Marco Huas against Gary Goodridge?
Gary Goodridge was beating his ass the whole fight.
Last 45 seconds, Marco Huas pulls out a heel hook.
joe rogan
That's what we used to call them, remember?
Hail Mary Heel Hooks?
brendan schaub
Hail Mary Heel Hooks.
joe rogan
That's what we used to call Heel Hooks.
Hail Mary Heel Hooks.
brendan schaub
The last resort?
joe rogan
It was like one of those things.
brendan schaub
I remember Paul Ahari was the one that really made it famous for a while, but then he was getting fucked up when he found Alan Belcher, who's a black belt, who was just like, I'm going to sit down on this and just punch you in the face.
joe rogan
Well, Belcher really prepared for that.
brendan schaub
He's also a black belt.
When you get to the point with your leg locks where you can...
Well, you've been in the fire for a couple years, two, three, four years, and you're really good at leg locks and you're going against someone else at that same level.
Leg locks probably aren't going to be the deciding factor in that fight.
They're going to nullify.
eddie bravo
And then, if you're going against a guy who's really good at defending and he has good wrestling and good punches, shit, you might want to stay away from leg locks.
brendan schaub
It all depends.
It's the matchup.
joe rogan
Who did Belcher bring in for his leg lock training?
Because he brought in someone really good.
brendan schaub
Davi Ramos.
joe rogan
That's right.
eddie bravo
And Dean Lister.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Dean Lister is the one I remember.
He brought him in and had, you know, he said it was just two months, one month, two months of every day, them attacking his legs, and that's all he needed.
You know, Paul Horace.
joe rogan
Davi Ramos is fighting 55 in the UFC, right?
Isn't he?
I believe he's fighting 55. I think so.
brendan schaub
That's a bad motherfucker right there.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
His jiu-jitsu is top of the food chain.
brendan schaub
He won Abu Dhabi in 2015. He had a sick flying armbar in one of his matches.
joe rogan
The way Torres just fell down makes me think that his knee might be jacked.
His knee might be a little shaky.
He looked like wobbly the way he fell down.
That looked weird.
brendan schaub
Bellator ratings have been rough, rough lately.
joe rogan
Have they been?
brendan schaub
Rough, rough.
So hopefully this one's better.
It's good for MMA in general.
You know, when Bellator and UFC is doing good for MMA in general, it's good.
joe rogan
Well, for MMA in general, we need big cards.
I mean, it really needs to get more people watching.
And these are entertaining fights, and there's no reason why more people shouldn't be watching.
I think they got a real problem with their name.
I've said this forever.
The name is stupid.
brendan schaub
But even UFC, which is a great name, their ratings suck too sometimes.
joe rogan
Sometimes.
brendan schaub
I don't think the name matters.
I don't think it matters at all.
I don't think it matters with bands and music and movies.
It doesn't matter.
You like Hootie and the Blowfish?
You like that name?
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
Yeah, where are they today?
brendan schaub
Flogging Molly.
You like that?
joe rogan
I do.
It doesn't bother me.
unidentified
You like that?
It works.
joe rogan
You know what?
brendan schaub
It doesn't matter if you like it because it works.
Smashing Pumpkins, if you weren't used to it, you would think if they never existed.
That's an awesome name.
joe rogan
That's a great name.
brendan schaub
No, no.
eddie bravo
Out of all of them.
brendan schaub
Because you're used to it.
eddie bravo
You don't realize it's because you're used to it.
joe rogan
Hootie and the Blowfish, I'm with you.
I wish you I'm flogging Molly.
brendan schaub
Smashing Pumpkins, though.
joe rogan
Smashing Pumpkins is a great name.
eddie bravo
Smashing Pumpkins is one of my favorite bands of all time.
joe rogan
I know they are.
eddie bravo
But if they never existed, and I told you, my new band's called Smashing Pumpkins, you would say, dude, you gotta change your motherfucking name.
Oh, I would love it.
brendan schaub
I would fucking love it.
eddie bravo
You think you'd love it, because you're used to it.
brendan schaub
You're used to it.
joe rogan
Billy Corgan's a cool motherfucker, man.
Let me tell you, I had him on the podcast.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was great on the podcast.
joe rogan
He's so normal.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I love that guy.
They're at the forum.
We should go.
They're at the forum in October.
Let's do it.
eddie bravo
Let's go.
unidentified
Let's not get carried away.
Let's do it.
brendan schaub
Make it happen.
You know him.
eddie bravo
Text him.
Can you text Billy Corgan?
Are you able to text him?
joe rogan
I have to email him.
brendan schaub
Email his assistant.
Damn, you know, that's one podcast I wish I would have been here for.
God, that one and the Paul Stanley one?
joe rogan
Shit.
eddie bravo
I wish I could have been here.
brendan schaub
What was that?
joe rogan
Are you a Tool fan?
You ever meet Maynard?
Did I ever introduce you to Maynard?
brendan schaub
I never met Maynard, no.
God, they would get along because he's a jiu-jitsu guy, too.
joe rogan
Maynard's a jiu-jitsu freak.
eddie bravo
I know his friends very well.
joe rogan
I think he's got his brown belt.
I'm pretty sure he's got his brown belt right now.
brendan schaub
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah, he's a purple a long time ago.
joe rogan
But he comes in town for seminars.
He goes to Dynamics, like Henry Aikens' place.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He goes to seminars down there.
eddie bravo
I know his friends very well.
brendan schaub
I just don't know him.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
Maynard is one of the smartest people I know, man.
brendan schaub
Wicked smart.
Does he own a wrestling league?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no.
That's Billy Corgan.
Billy Corgan owns the NWA. Is that it?
brendan schaub
He's balls deep into...
joe rogan
Yeah, he loves pro wrestling.
brendan schaub
Or does he own TNT? One of those.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
Look at this.
That's it.
Arm triangle.
brendan schaub
Game over.
That's it.
joe rogan
That's a wrap, son.
Tappity tap.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, we're getting all submissions tonight.
joe rogan
That's nice.
Well, Lovato and Gerald Harris is going to be a difficult one.
brendan schaub
I bet you it's a mission.
joe rogan
I'm super excited.
They're very good.
brendan schaub
I'm good.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm good too.
I might be over good.
brendan schaub
Over good.
joe rogan
Oh no.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Billy Corbin, he was digging wrestling.
joe rogan
He just got into wrestling.
He loves pro wrestling.
Loves it.
He's a funny guy, man.
He's a really smart dude.
brendan schaub
He's such a savage, man.
Such a monster.
joe rogan
Maynor's not into pro wrestling, but what Maynor is into, he owns a vineyard and a restaurant.
He's fucking crazy into wine, man.
brendan schaub
He talked about wine for a solid hour on your podcast.
Dude, he's a wizard.
joe rogan
He's a wine wizard.
brendan schaub
God damn it, bro.
Talk about whores on fucking tours.
joe rogan
Whores on tours.
eddie bravo
I thought you were going to say the nice thing and say, yeah, it was interesting.
brendan schaub
Not for me, brother.
He's a fascinating guy, but I'm all set on what?
joe rogan
He's got the clamp.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're screwed, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a tight one, baby.
You see how he manipulates those legs?
That guy's done that to a lot of fucking people.
eddie bravo
At this point, he could have defended right here if he would have just brought his legs up and hooked his own left leg.
brendan schaub
And turn away, yeah?
He could have just went like this.
unidentified
Like this.
brendan schaub
And turn away, yeah.
joe rogan
Like this.
Now, when guys do that, though, you go to the impaler, right?
eddie bravo
You have to go to the back.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but you got to do that before.
joe rogan
But when a guy grabs his legs, do you still go to the impaler?
unidentified
I've seen you.
joe rogan
I've seen you separate guys legs.
brendan schaub
I rarely do an arm triangle not mounted.
eddie bravo
Rarely.
brendan schaub
I stay in the mount.
joe rogan
Why do you stay in the mount and not go one side to side?
brendan schaub
Because that one defense I was just telling you, hooking your own leg.
joe rogan
You can't do it from the mount.
brendan schaub
That stops all arm triangles.
eddie bravo
You're forced to go to another submission, which you're forced to take the back.
brendan schaub
You kind of give up your back.
But the guy who is about to get tapped wins.
eddie bravo
He gets another chance.
brendan schaub
Guy's on your back, but that choke was in deep.
joe rogan
When you tap a guy from the mount or when you go to the arm triangle from the mount, what percentage of effectiveness do you think it is in comparison to going like a clock, like fully out?
brendan schaub
There may be some added torque in the twist, but if you go butter mount, which is putting your butterflies on top and you extend, you don't need to get on the side.
joe rogan
So is it just a new movement you have to master?
brendan schaub
Well, it all depends on your opponent.
eddie bravo
If he knows this defense, someone puts you in an arm triangle like this is caught.
brendan schaub
All I have to do is just bring this leg up, get inverted and go boom, and there's no way you're going to tap.
joe rogan
See, this is the thing.
I've seen you separate guys' legs when you were really into the impaler.
And I know I've done it to guys that aren't very good, but I've seen you when you were really into the impaler for a while.
brendan schaub
No one did that, though.
joe rogan
The impaler being...
brendan schaub
No one did the defense.
The defense is what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, the defense are grabbing your leg.
Nobody did that?
brendan schaub
Not back in the day.
Because everybody was laying down.
The way he did the arm triangle where he's laying in side control flat on his back.
It obviously works.
People are tapping.
It's easy to defend.
If the guy knew it.
eddie bravo
If the guy sees it coming, as soon as this arm's in trouble, boom!
You're right here.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
Maybe I'm confusing you with somebody else.
Because I know during your...
There was a whole run when a lot of us were into the impaler.
And then you also started putting it down where you would put the shin to the hip and really stretch a guy out, too.
brendan schaub
Jesus!
joe rogan
What do you do with Jesus?
brendan schaub
Look at that cut.
joe rogan
Oh shit, whose cut is that?
brendan schaub
Damn.
unidentified
Cage Warriors earlier today.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's crazy.
That's an eyebrow.
That's a full eyebrow.
brendan schaub
You can see his skull.
joe rogan
That's one of the biggest I've ever seen.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Because I remember arguing with somebody about it when someone was saying that you can't separate a guy's hands like that.
I'm like, how long do you think you can hold your hands?
eddie bravo
We need mats in here, dude.
joe rogan
No, we do.
brendan schaub
You can put a mat right there.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
I have new mats coming.
So we can do that.
brendan schaub
Just right here.
eddie bravo
All you need is cameras.
brendan schaub
How do you demonstrate the defense?
joe rogan
You could dive right in the middle of a mat.
That'd be sick.
brendan schaub
People don't know what we're talking about.
It's hard to understand if you don't know jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
We're going to have that.
We're going to have that.
Because there's new mats coming in because the mats that I'm getting from Fuji, the grappling ones are too slippery.
They don't have any texture to them.
eddie bravo
You should get Zebra.
brendan schaub
I'm getting new Zebras, man.
joe rogan
I like Zebra.
brendan schaub
Those are the best.
joe rogan
I like Zebra.
I have Zebra in my office.
eddie bravo
Those are the best by far.
brendan schaub
I'm getting all new Zebras.
joe rogan
But Fuji makes a real good one with a texture for striking.
So for kicking and stuff, I need some texture.
But on the ground, it's fine.
So I'm going to take the ones from the ground and just put them here.
eddie bravo
Well, you need the texture for passing, too.
If you're getting all sweaty, you need the texture.
brendan schaub
Because the mats I have now...
joe rogan
No texture.
eddie bravo
Everybody complains that they...
joe rogan
They're too slippery.
brendan schaub
They're made for wrestling.
joe rogan
Shoes.
brendan schaub
And wrestlers have shoes.
So it's not an issue.
eddie bravo
It's like a slip and slide.
brendan schaub
But when you're going barefoot and doing jiu-jitsu, and it gets sweaty, after like three or four rounds, passing becomes impossible.
It's like passing on ice.
Is it hot in here?
I'm having a heart attack.
You guys are sweating, too.
joe rogan
You're having a heart attack.
We're good.
brendan schaub
But if you feel the zebras, they're made for barefoot traction.
joe rogan
We got a thermostat in here.
That'd be fucking glorious.
Zebras are, yeah.
Zebras is what they put in my gym.
My gym at home.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But these out here, the Fugees, the smooth ones, man.
It's not good for kicking.
When I'm kicking, I'm slipping around a lot.
brendan schaub
It's dangerous.
joe rogan
Especially for spinning.
When I spin, I need traction.
I have to have something where I can push my foot off.
With round kicks, you can kind of get away with it because if your foot slips, your whole body is just kind of moving.
brendan schaub
So what kind of mats you got coming in?
You already got it all hooked up?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're out there.
I'll show them to you.
brendan schaub
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
The other Fugees.
They're Fugees, but they're tatami mats.
It's a pretty strong texture.
brendan schaub
Why did you decide to go with those over Zebra?
joe rogan
Jimmy Pedro.
brendan schaub
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
Jimmy Pedro went over to there and he did my first place.
You know, Olympic judo master.
He's a bad motherfucker.
He did my other place.
And so, you know, when he moved there, I just went with him there.
I like them.
I just don't think they're the right thing for what I do.
But the tatami ones with the heavy texture is perfect.
For kickboxing, especially if I'm really sweaty and I'm throwing spin kicks and shit like that, I am not in the mood to blow my knee out.
brendan schaub
A lot of my students blame the mats when they have a bad day and I'm sitting there and they're having a bad day and they're like, these fucking mats!
unidentified
Yeah!
brendan schaub
Fuck these mats!
What do you say?
They all get together in the corner and go, yeah, it's the mats, right?
Yeah!
When are we getting new mats, coach?
joe rogan
Wear shoes, bro.
brendan schaub
Do you kinda guilty too?
Fucking mat, bro.
These fucking mats.
They make fun of the HQ mats.
joe rogan
That's funny.
brendan schaub
They do.
They do.
But no more.
In two weeks I get new mats.
joe rogan
Remember when I just had pads put down with a cloth strep, a nylon top stretched across them, remember?
We got those dudes to do it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, those are still done.
Yeah, those can get slippery.
joe rogan
Super slippery.
It was loose, too.
It's like the problem with that was it wasn't tight.
It's like, remember the old headquarters for Gracie Jiu-Jitsu in Torrance?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Remember they had that massive floor?
brendan schaub
The giant, the green.
Yeah, and they had it all down.
unidentified
It's like a tarp.
brendan schaub
They tighten up a tarp.
joe rogan
That's exactly what I had.
So it's never totally tight.
brendan schaub
So slippery.
joe rogan
Never tight.
It's never really tight.
brendan schaub
Dude, am I crazy to think Bader's the dark horse to win the heavyweight tournament?
joe rogan
Oh, he can win it.
Bader's still very, very good.
And not that King Mo's not.
King Mo can fucking punch.
And he, at one point in time at least, was a world-class wrestler.
King Mo was a beast of a wrestler.
brendan schaub
Oh, he still is.
unidentified
Phenomenal athlete.
brendan schaub
One of the best I've ever seen.
joe rogan
But he's had some injuries, man.
And he had really, really bad staff.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think the staff got him at least twice.
I know he got it once, but I want to say he got it twice real bad.
He had a real bad staff.
Like, come on, man.
Bader's probably at the top of his game right now.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Bader's in his prime.
joe rogan
When he beat Phil, I was like, holy shit, he beat Phil Davis.
And he took him down a bunch of times.
Like, look, he's at the top of his game.
He's at the top of his game.
brendan schaub
You look at that heavyweight division, that tournament, Bader's my dark horse, man.
joe rogan
Bader is a legit world class fighter that is actually probably at his best right now.
I would say that Ryan Bader right now is in his prime.
Here's the thing though.
Even in his prime, he's not at the level of John.
And that was over in the UFC. Oh no.
But who is though?
Who is?
Well, maybe Gus Fenn?
John who?
I mean, DC is close.
You know, DC put up a good fight the first time, and the second time it was a good fight until John had kicked up.
brendan schaub
Gus Fenn put up a better fight.
joe rogan
He did.
The speculation is that John barely trained for that fight.
brendan schaub
John trained for two hours for that fight.
joe rogan
Literally, if at all.
That's how good he is.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
But when John fought Ryan, you were like, okay, this is a gap.
brendan schaub
He cradled him like a baby, remember that?
joe rogan
There's a gap that you go, ooh, how are you going to cross that gap?
You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
But even if you're DC, you've got to be thinking, and you know I love DC, even when DC has to be thinking, how can I cross that gap?
He's 40. He's going to be 40. It's true.
joe rogan
It's true.
Look, I can't disagree with you, but DC at least was competitive in that fight before he got head kicked.
It was a competitive fight.
He was putting a lot of pressure on John.
It was interesting.
It was interesting.
brendan schaub
This is a good card right here.
joe rogan
But John set him up.
It is a good card.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Paul Daly versus John Fitz.
Jesus Christ!
That's a good fight, man.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
Aaron Pico, do you see his last win?
joe rogan
Dude, that left hook to the chin.
It was like a shovel hook.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's a little fucking...
joe rogan
He's a beast.
unidentified
Savant!
joe rogan
He's a beast.
brendan schaub
He's so goddamn good.
joe rogan
I think losing that first fight is probably the best thing that could have ever happened to him.
brendan schaub
He doesn't train with you guys, does he?
For that first fight he did.
He's a Tenth Planet guy, right?
Not anymore.
Oh, not anymore.
He was.
And then after he lost, I think...
They blamed it on that?
joe rogan
Dylan Dennis has a dope tattoo.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
He just never came back.
joe rogan
Dylan Dennis' tattoo is fucking sweet.
Like, whoever did that, that's like a real artist.
They nailed that.
brendan schaub
That dragon?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really good, man.
It's like Aaron Della Vidova style.
Like, look how good that dragon is, man.
Like, what I'm talking about, too, is not just the image, but the way it's lined up.
The use of space.
When you see a real good tattoo artist, one of the things they do is they fill up the space the right way, the right amount of darkness, the right amount of lightness, the contrast.
brendan schaub
But it fits the body, that part of the body.
joe rogan
It fits perfect.
brendan schaub
Sometimes I wish I could go back, because now I feel like tattoo artists are so much better.
joe rogan
They're so good.
brendan schaub
The styles are so much different.
Yeah.
I get, like, the Prius of tattoos instead of, you know, it's way better these days.
joe rogan
Well, you could laser that shit off, you know.
brendan schaub
Ah, fuck, I don't know.
I'd go with none.
I'd go with none.
joe rogan
None?
unidentified
None.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love tattoos, man.
brendan schaub
I do, too.
I do, too.
I feel like I have to cover them.
unidentified
I believe you.
brendan schaub
I don't know why, but I do.
joe rogan
I love that Dylan Dennis style of tattoo, too.
That's a dope tattoo.
That's my favorite style, those big-ass modern Japanese-looking things.
brendan schaub
I always cover mine, man.
I mean, not around you guys.
If I'm doing stand-up on TV, I always cover them.
joe rogan
I do for stand-up.
brendan schaub
You're ashamed.
joe rogan
Probably the only time people see him when I'm not is on this podcast, honestly.
brendan schaub
Well, no, even during my shows, I cover them.
joe rogan
Weigh-ins.
Weigh-ins, I'll wear a t-shirt.
That's one thing the UFC's been doing.
Making cool t-shirts for each.
Reebok can make a cool t-shirt for each place you go to.
brendan schaub
Have you been wearing those?
joe rogan
Sometimes I'm wearing them.
brendan schaub
I wore the Boston one.
joe rogan
Usually, but I wore the Boston one.
They made a dope one.
It was green with a bumblebee.
It looked like a bumblebee with gloves on.
brendan schaub
At the UFC's, backstage, who is the head honcho walking around?
Is there someone above Dana that's walking around and hanging out backstage?
Or is Dana...
joe rogan
Well, Dana's always running the show.
brendan schaub
For sure.
eddie bravo
But is there like, oh shit, that's...
brendan schaub
The golden snitch, right?
Nowitzki's the guy everyone's kind of like...
joe rogan
Well, no, no.
He means like running the show.
eddie bravo
No, no, not running.
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
Just walking around, hanging out.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
There's nobody above Dana walking around, hanging out?
joe rogan
No, Dana's the president, man.
And Ari is so busy.
brendan schaub
Ari owns that bitch.
eddie bravo
He owns that bitch.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no.
But when he comes there, it's very brief.
And he comes for the fights or he comes to the weigh-ins.
He goes, do you know how fucking busy that dude must be?
eddie bravo
He's in and out.
brendan schaub
The UFC says side check.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not even.
brendan schaub
He just checks in.
joe rogan
It's a big company.
It's a business they put together with a bunch of celebrities bought into it.
It's a real big deal.
brendan schaub
What celebrities?
joe rogan
A lot of people bought into it.
I would have to look at a list.
Ben Affleck is part owner of the UFC. I don't ask questions, honestly.
I really don't.
brendan schaub
I ask a lot of questions.
joe rogan
I work there.
I've been working there forever.
I ask almost no questions.
This is what I ask.
What are you going to do with this guy?
What are you going to do with that?
brendan schaub
You want no matchups.
joe rogan
And you're like, you can't tell anybody this.
This is where we're working.
brendan schaub
I'm like, oh shit!
joe rogan
Oh shit!
That's the questions I ask with Dana.
I never ask questions about business or who bought this or...
I don't have enough room in my brain to give a fuck about other people's business.
I have zero interest in other people's business.
I mean, literally zero.
Especially with the UFC, I don't give a fuck.
I just want to know who's fighting.
Who's fighting who?
What are you going to do?
I'm not like, how much is this guy going to make?
What percentage does he own?
What's he doing?
How's he going to make his money back?
What kind of financial return on his investment is he going to get?
I don't give a fuck about that.
brendan schaub
See, but when they say those celebrities are owners, it's just like a business move.
They might not be into the UFC. It's just as far as money.
joe rogan
People are into getting famous people to invest in shit, too.
It's a fun thing.
unidentified
LL Cool J? Is that LL Cool J? Jimmy Kimmel.
brendan schaub
I mean, it's just...
joe rogan
There you go.
brendan schaub
There's Mike Beltran.
He owns it, too.
They don't have any say.
joe rogan
Mike Beltran got the best fucking mustache in the game.
Adam Levine owns a piece of the pie.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about Nick Newell?
Is this for real?
joe rogan
Anthony Kiedis.
There we go.
Calvin Harris.
unidentified
Adam Levine owns a piece of the UFC. Damn.
joe rogan
Damn.
Damn.
So a lot of people bought into it.
brendan schaub
Oh, Adam Levine.
I thought it was Avril Levine.
I'm like, what the fuck is she doing in the fight game?
joe rogan
So what they do is they, you know, they probably, everybody chips in a little bit.
Man, that's so stressful.
brendan schaub
I think they just give them stock.
They just give them stock.
joe rogan
Is that what they do?
brendan schaub
Michael Bay.
unidentified
Are you sure?
brendan schaub
Pretty sure.
joe rogan
You sure they didn't chip in?
brendan schaub
I don't think they chip in.
joe rogan
What would they give them stock for?
What would they give them stock for?
brendan schaub
Because they own the business, right?
They're not getting cash from those guys, I don't think.
Why would they do that?
joe rogan
Why would they give them a piece of the business for no reason?
brendan schaub
They'd have to give them money.
joe rogan
I don't know.
See, this is why I don't like doing this.
This is why I don't like doing this.
I don't understand.
brendan schaub
But we're doing it.
We're doing it.
You don't like it.
joe rogan
No, but what I'm saying is I don't like wondering who's paying what or how they're doing it.
No, it's complicated.
I didn't want to hear about it.
brendan schaub
No, we like it.
We like it.
joe rogan
You know what?
That's one of the things I've found, as I've gotten older especially, is to concentrate on less things.
brendan schaub
God bless you.
joe rogan
Other things, just put them aside.
Put them aside.
Concentrate on less things.
You can get better at the things you really enjoy.
There's only so many things you can think of.
There's only so many things.
If you spend your time worrying about other people's nonsense, you're robbing yourself.
You think it's fun, but it's really a big fat distraction.
You know what it is?
It's not even your life, right?
So you're thinking about things that are going on in other people's lives, and you're doing it because you're not giving 100% to your life, and there's some stress involved in that.
And so to distract yourself from that stress, you concentrate on other people's lives.
It's a very common thing.
brendan schaub
Do you ever have fake arguments in your head?
joe rogan
With myself?
Oh, I used to do that all the time.
I used to pretend someone would say this back to me.
I was like, fuck you.
I'm going to say this back to you.
And then sometimes it would be with a dude, and then I would run into him to talk to him, thinking we're going to have this big argument.
unidentified
And he's awesome.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
I fucked up.
brendan schaub
I was drunk.
You had all this shit prepared.
joe rogan
And then I abandoned it immediately.
I think there's so much of how people interact with each other.
It could be just way different with just a little shift in how we talk to each other and how we think about each other.
brendan schaub
I did that last night.
I was doing a set at the Laugh Factory and we were talking about off-air Santino and Theo Vaughn.
I was going, you know, in between them.
I had this whole dialogue in my head because they're like, oh, we're going to stay and watch yourself.
I'm like, that'll be cool.
And as soon as I got done, I was like, oh, I bet fucking Santino thought that sucked and this and this.
I'm like, literally, he comes to the back.
He's the nicest guy ever.
joe rogan
Santino's a very nice guy.
He's fucking funny, man.
He's a funny dude.
There's like young guys that are coming up that I go, oh, look at you!
brendan schaub
Him and Theo, last night, back-to-back, I was like, you motherfuckers are monsters.
joe rogan
Have you seen his bit he does about The Rock?
You gotta ask him to do it.
brendan schaub
Santino?
joe rogan
Yes.
Because he has so much material that he stopped doing it, I guess.
He'll do it, but if you bring it up, he'll do it.
brendan schaub
I would love that.
joe rogan
I asked him to do it one night, and he did it for us in the OR. Dude.
brendan schaub
I don't know who Santino is.
joe rogan
Oh, you gotta see him.
brendan schaub
He's so good.
joe rogan
He does a lot of my shows.
brendan schaub
Italian guy?
Redhead from Boston.
joe rogan
He's redhead.
Super redhead.
He's a fucking funny guy.
He's doing, I think he's on my show on the 24th.
brendan schaub
He told me he's on your show in Chicago?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's doing that.
brendan schaub
He's doing Chicago.
joe rogan
He's with me in Chicago.
Him and Tony.
brendan schaub
It's a double header.
That's a ridiculous show.
Him and I walked from Laugh Factory to the comedy store last night, and he's a chatty Cathy.
He's a good talk.
joe rogan
Real good dude.
I love that guy.
I love Santino.
And Theo Vaughn.
I love him, too.
He's so original.
brendan schaub
They're two killers, man.
joe rogan
So death when they go on stage.
eddie bravo
I watched him last night.
joe rogan
Have you seen Theo?
eddie bravo
I was supposed to do his podcast, but it just never...
brendan schaub
I don't know what happened.
Oh, I connect you guys.
He wanted you on there.
We went back and forth.
I still want to do it, but it just didn't happen.
joe rogan
I'll get a hold of it.
brendan schaub
The last few weeks have been fucking crazy.
joe rogan
With your knee operation and all that?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They have each other's numbers.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They're good.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's so funny, man.
brendan schaub
His podcast's getting better, too.
How about his boy was with him last night?
I don't think he knows much about Theo's stand-up.
And Theo's just sucking every fucking breath out of that place.
Just destroying.
And he goes, man, he's good, huh?
I'm like, Theo?
He's like, yeah.
He's doing really good down there.
I'm like...
Yeah, man.
He's a fucking killer.
joe rogan
Well, you know, the thing is, Theo has really come into his own over the last two years.
And I met him right around the time it was really popping for him.
He was always really good.
Like, everybody thought he was always funny.
But he hit some new level.
I remember me and Adam, the booking agent at the comedy store.
unidentified
Love Adam.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were in the hallway, and Theo was murdering.
And he got off stage, and I went up to Adam, I go, dude, he's on another level.
He hit some new stride.
He goes, yeah, right?
We remember recognizing this moment where Theo was in some new space.
He was in some weird original space.
brendan schaub
Everywhere I go, like I was just in Calgary, and they go, who else is good out there?
I went, do you have Theo Vaughn?
Do you have Theo Vaughn?
They're like, no.
I'm like, how do you guys not?
He should be destroying ticket sales.
I'm telling you, it's one of those things.
And Santino, too.
I'm like, God, how are you guys not just...
joe rogan
People are going to know.
Keep an eye on those two dudes are like the next Tom Segura.
brendan schaub
Correct.
eddie bravo
You guys know who Michael Che is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
eddie bravo
His Netflix special is fucking high level.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
Oh, it's called Michael Che Matters.
Dude, he's got this Jesus bit where he talks about, you know how Jesus is a carpenter?
I'm not going to ruin the bit, but he's saying he must have sucked.
Because if he would have been good, there would have been pieces of furniture.
joe rogan
Yeah, we shouldn't do his bit.
brendan schaub
He's really good.
He's really good.
He's high level.
Your boy just released a special on Netflix.
I didn't know he was still doing stand-up.
James.
Your boy.
joe rogan
Kevin James.
brendan schaub
Kevin James.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, he just did.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's been doing stand-up.
He does a lot of theaters.
brendan schaub
I know he used to be a killer.
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Kevin and I, we basically were amateurs together.
We're basically just starting to get paid.
And I signed with my manager, and I got my manager to sign with Kevin.
I'm in a small management company, and he has a few clients that have been with him for more than 20 years.
And two of them are me and Kevin.
brendan schaub
Is this you and Kevin?
Is this starting in Boston or LA? It was in New York.
joe rogan
I moved from Boston to New York because of my manager, and then I hooked my manager up with Kevin.
And then, you know, Kevin and I are pretty close.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know that.
I watched his special because I think Brian told me, he's like, dude, he was a killer.
joe rogan
He was a killer in the day.
brendan schaub
I think you told me that, too.
So I've never seen his stamp.
I've watched it on, like, YouTube, but then his special, it's good.
joe rogan
Well, you know what it is, man?
It's like, at this point, he's just so busy.
You know, he's got his TV show, and he's always doing...
Before Kevin Can Wait, he was always doing his other TV show that went on forever.
You know, that's...
And he was, like, a main guy on that show.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, he's the main guy.
joe rogan
I mean, as an actor.
I mean, as a writer.
Oh, that's a nightmare.
Oh, dude, he wrote everything with those guys.
brendan schaub
Dang, he's super talented.
joe rogan
He wrote a lot.
He rewrote a lot.
He went over all the scripts.
The reason why the show was so good is because it was a talented staff of writers, talented actress.
Leah Remini was very funny.
There was a lot of funny people on the show.
Patton Oswalt was really good on the show.
brendan schaub
He's great.
joe rogan
But more than anything, Kevin is a driven dude.
He gets super obsessed about doing the run.
He would go over lines.
He's a craftsman.
He's trying to break it down.
He's trying to figure it out.
But he just doesn't do the amount of stand-up now that he used to when he was starting out.
brendan schaub
How could you, though?
There's no way you could.
joe rogan
But that's why you didn't think that he was doing it anymore.
Because there's no way he could do the kind of stand-up where you'd be everywhere all the time.
He just doesn't have that time.
When you're doing a sitcom, it's your sitcom.
brendan schaub
Especially for your writing?
joe rogan
Fuck, dude, that's so much work.
brendan schaub
Gary Shandlin talked about that, too, because he would write everything, overlook every episode, and then you can't do both.
joe rogan
Think about some of the shit that we've done, like that cartoon about you getting kidnapped by the Mexicans and they fill you up with drugs and turn you into a sex slave.
brendan schaub
My dick's popping up.
joe rogan
We didn't write a goddamn thing.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
We were just two friends riffing, giggling, being ridiculous, and it turns into a cartoon, and it's fucking hilarious.
If you watch that cartoon, it's hilarious.
We have it so much easier.
If we were doing a sitcom, we would have meetings.
We would have to do a run-through for the network.
The network would give us stupid notes.
We did do that.
I know.
brendan schaub
And it was a nightmare.
joe rogan
It was a nightmare.
brendan schaub
Fucking nightmare from day one.
It's not a nightmare.
I have to do a little bit now because of my Showtime show.
I'm below the belt.
joe rogan
But your show's at least not scripted.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
See, that's the thing.
brendan schaub
Different animal.
joe rogan
When things are scripted, shit gets weird.
See, because what they're doing with you is very talent dependent.
They're dependent upon your personality.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That's what people want to see.
The more they let you go, the better the show's going to be.
They realize that, and you see it in the show now, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if you're on a show where they're creating the dialogue, everybody's got to say.
brendan schaub
There's a narrative.
joe rogan
Everybody's got their own little fucking opinion about how this should go, and that should go, and you don't want to hear their shit, and they think you suck, and everybody's going back and forth, and then the network comes in, and they all want to get their greasy paws on it.
Everybody wants to get their fucking jizz in the soup.
They all want to get their flavor.
unidentified
Jizz in the soup?
joe rogan
A little flavor.
brendan schaub
Who's eating that soup?
joe rogan
Everybody literally wants to add their DNA to the script.
I've seen people try to change things just to justify their job.
They have to have an opinion.
Everybody has to have an opinion.
Like, I just think she's not dressed hot enough.
They have these conversations.
We need a black guy.
We need a black guy.
And you're like, what?
And then you're listening to some executive that doesn't know shit about writing.
They're not writers.
They just decide they want to have some sort of say.
And they think they know the business because they've been working as an executive fucking up shows for about five, six years.
So they got experience fucking up shows.
So they think they can fuck up your show and fix it.
brendan schaub
It'd be a nightmare to do all that and do stand-up.
joe rogan
We need a gay neighbor.
brendan schaub
We have to have a gay neighbor.
joe rogan
Gotta get a gay neighbor.
unidentified
We need a silly, big, silly, bold...
brendan schaub
Well, now it's...
We need transgender.
We need transgender.
Have you heard of transracial?
Oh, dude!
Thank God you guys remind me of this.
There's a new...
Fuck yes!
unidentified
Yes!
brendan schaub
There's a new documentary on Netflix about that lady who was white and thinks she's black.
joe rogan
Rachel Dozer, yes.
brendan schaub
And it is epic.
What's it called?
joe rogan
I've heard it's epic.
brendan schaub
What's it called?
I forget, but you watch it.
joe rogan
Oh, that poor lady.
brendan schaub
No, you feel bad for it.
joe rogan
The Rachel Dozer, yeah.
brendan schaub
The Rachel Dozer, right?
What's it called?
unidentified
The Rachel Divide.
brendan schaub
The Rachel Divide.
joe rogan
Dolezal is her name.
brendan schaub
Dozel.
joe rogan
Dolezal.
brendan schaub
No, different name now.
joe rogan
She changed her name to like some super...
brendan schaub
Does she still want to be black?
joe rogan
Super African sounding name.
unidentified
She didn't go back?
brendan schaub
No spoiler alerts.
I mean, you can look this shit up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But they basically like...
She goes on...
She writes a book.
She sells 500 of them.
It goes terrible.
She's trying to make money because the black community doesn't accept her.
The white community doesn't accept her.
So she writes this book.
And then at the end, you see her taking her braids out.
I'm like, oh damn, she's going back to white.
But she doubles down Wakanda style.
Comes out with like an afro.
Changes her name like fucking Noda.
There she is.
joe rogan
Look at her there.
The Rachel Divide.
What is her new name?
It's something crazy.
brendan schaub
It's super African.
joe rogan
Yeah, like from the motherland.
Yes.
Gerald Harris was always super jacked.
He looks good.
It looks like he's a good shape.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
This is going to be a great fight, man.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Gerald Harris and Rafael Levy.
brendan schaub
Oh, there it is.
Nikichi Ameri Diallo.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a good name.
That's super normal.
That's super normal.
brendan schaub
That makes sense for a white girl.
joe rogan
Do you know Gerald Harris does stand-up?
Apparently he's really funny.
brendan schaub
Oh yeah?
Yeah.
joe rogan
I saw like a very short clip of him when he was first starting out.
brendan schaub
Oh yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a funny guy.
brendan schaub
Damn, that could be like an MMA comedy tour.
eddie bravo
You, Gerald Harris.
brendan schaub
Joe Rogan?
joe rogan
Who else is doing it?
Adam Hunter?
Adam Hunter?
brendan schaub
Did he fight MMA? No.
He's a straight comedian.
joe rogan
He's a really good wrestler.
eddie bravo
But he's still in the MMA community.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's in the community.
His show is fucking good, man.
And he's a hilarious comic.
He's a really good joke writer.
Like a one-liner type dude.
Very good at that.
He's a good dude, too.
So that would be him.
And he wrestled.
I think he coaches wrestling, too.
Doesn't he do some shit with Einstein?
Einstein?
brendan schaub
They used to do a podcast together, and then they don't work out, and then Renato started doing it with them.
joe rogan
Renato.
Caused the trouble.
Always caused the trouble.
brendan schaub
I've never met him.
Never met Renato.
joe rogan
Never.
He would love him.
brendan schaub
Never.
I'm sure.
I never ran into him.
He brings you up, though.
eddie bravo
He calls you Brendan Schwab.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
joe rogan
The big back.
brendan schaub
I've never met him.
One of the funniest guys to ever live.
joe rogan
He's a funny fucking dude.
brendan schaub
He's so funny.
Have you seen the Hanata Laranja show where he does the sketches?
eddie bravo
You've seen Robert De Niro?
brendan schaub
He does the heat sketch.
He's got the Rocky III sketch.
He's got an Incredible Hulk sketch.
joe rogan
The Snatch ones off the charts.
eddie bravo
Dude, he's brilliant.
joe rogan
It's the Snatch one.
Have you ever seen the take on Snatch?
eddie bravo
He writes all of that shit.
joe rogan
Michael Bisping and him in a fucking parody of Snatch.
Can you find that?
Find that.
eddie bravo
It's so good.
joe rogan
It is hilarious.
brendan schaub
He has his own channel.
eddie bravo
He had his own show.
brendan schaub
It's a talk show where he's brought it.
eddie bravo
He's at Henner Gracie, Frank Shamrock.
unidentified
Frank Shamrock.
eddie bravo
He's the host, but it's like a podcast, but it's a show, and he crushes his guests.
The premise of the show is he's better than the guests, and he's going to crush you, and he smashes you.
He had Frank Shamrock on, and I asked him, I go, did you bring up his snaggle tooth?
brendan schaub
He brought it up for 30 minutes.
unidentified
laughter laughter I love Frank Shamrock.
eddie bravo
But he fixed it, though.
He's got braces.
brendan schaub
I got braces.
eddie bravo
My teeth look like llama teeth.
Frank's braces are off.
brendan schaub
Frank's braces are off.
eddie bravo
Yeah, my teeth were just as bad as Frank, so I had to get braces as an old man, too.
brendan schaub
Did you do Invisalign or did you do metals?
eddie bravo
I did Invisalign.
brendan schaub
Brian's doing Invisalign.
They're not getting better.
Brian's had Invisalign for like four months now.
eddie bravo
Check this out.
brendan schaub
He took him out.
His teeth are fucked up still.
Snatchy.
joe rogan
Tell him to let it go.
Here it is.
Snatchy.
Can we play this on the podcast?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's, uh, who's the other guy?
Kip Cole, right?
eddie bravo
No, Kip, uh, he's a grappler.
joe rogan
Dale.
eddie bravo
Kip Dale, yeah.
joe rogan
This is great.
Michael Bisping's good, too.
unidentified
Michael Bisping's good, too.
Shits himself when you put him in a ring, poke him with a stick, and watch his bollocks grow.
brendan schaub
Feel like a dogfight, Turkish.
unidentified
We've lost Vinnie Magalash.
eddie bravo
Shh.
unidentified
You're going to have to repeat that.
brendan schaub
He's great.
unidentified
We've lost Vinnie Magalash.
Well, where the fuck did you lose him to?
joe rogan
It ain't as if he's a fucking pair of car keys.
unidentified
Hey, this fight's going on.
joe rogan
We'll come back to this.
He's a great actor!
That's a long sketch.
We'll come back to it.
Let's watch this fight.
brendan schaub
Oh my god, it's 40 minutes long.
eddie bravo
The show is 40 minutes.
joe rogan
Lovato and Gerald Harris here.
This shit's going down.
This is an interesting fight to me.
Lovato is one of the best jujitsu guys right now in MMA. White boy out of Oklahoma.
And he can fuck dudes up standing.
And speaks Portuguese, right?
Oh, crazy flying knee.
Do you go to the ground with him?
brendan schaub
Not a good idea.
joe rogan
Let's see what happens here.
He might get tied it up.
brendan schaub
I thought Gerald retired.
joe rogan
He did for a bit.
But he's back.
unidentified
Did he get cut from the UFC? And then signed with Bellator?
joe rogan
I do not remember.
eddie bravo
Lovato's got a really good guard, too.
So he's in danger right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he's got his legs closed up here.
brendan schaub
I don't know why Gerald's playing this game.
joe rogan
This is not a wise maneuver.
brendan schaub
It's probably going to end right here.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't realize sometimes...
Well, you know what?
brendan schaub
His left elbow's out.
He's good.
eddie bravo
He's safe right here.
joe rogan
His legs are tight around the back, though.
This is a triangle, son.
eddie bravo
Man, if he puts in that...
brendan schaub
If he triangles his legs, even with both arms...
Oh, there it is.
It's over.
eddie bravo
It's done.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's done.
It's done.
He's done.
joe rogan
Tapped.
brendan schaub
Yep.
What the fuck was Gerald thinking?
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
But they don't know.
They don't know.
brendan schaub
You don't know that you're...
joe rogan
This guy's level of jiu-jitsu.
They have an idea.
They think they can survive.
You can't.
brendan schaub
He has knockouts, too, though.
joe rogan
He does.
His last fight.
He said he was upset.
He's kind of bummed out that he didn't get to choke him.
But he can show that he can do that, too.
But the level on the ground is so high.
brendan schaub
When's the last time you saw this many high-level jiu-jitsu guys just submit?
unidentified
Right?
brendan schaub
First round.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Crazy.
Good on Bellator.
Now Frank just capped the night off.
Jumped a half guard, bro, like a third joke.
joe rogan
Imagine if he snaps Fedor's arm, too.
brendan schaub
Shit.
joe rogan
Think about that shit.
The legend of Frank.
Tim Sylvia, Noguera.
What if he breaks Fedor's arm?
And we go, get the fuck out of here.
He has arguably one of the best guards in the history of the heavyweight division.
brendan schaub
Check this out.
Not guards, right?
Yeah.
unidentified
Frank?
joe rogan
Yeah, Frank's got a wicked guard.
It is.
It is better.
But Frank's got a wicked fucking guard, man.
brendan schaub
Look at that beautiful swim move.
joe rogan
Bam.
brendan schaub
Look at his legs.
joe rogan
Look at how he wraps it up, too.
God damn, that's tight.
brendan schaub
That was fucking filthy.
eddie bravo
Beautiful.
joe rogan
Do you like that?
eddie bravo
Look at the swim right here.
brendan schaub
Boom.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's perfect.
brendan schaub
Right there.
Bam.
eddie bravo
Perfect.
joe rogan
Do you like this way?
brendan schaub
I get arm bars like that all the time.
That's off an arm crush.
That's how your legs will be off of failed arm crush to the arm bar.
eddie bravo
It's perfect.
joe rogan
Do you prefer it like that, or do you prefer the legs parallel?
brendan schaub
No, no.
That's when the legs aren't perfect, meaning the ankles are crossed over the far elbow or shoulder, that's perfect.
But sometimes you just can't have it perfect.
If Gerald Harris would have had a good corkscrew, a good hitchhiker, he could have got out.
But you've got to have that in the chamber ready to go.
And you've got to rep it a couple thousand times.
That's a very technical move.
Remember when Carl Parisian fought Matt Serra?
Remember that?
eddie bravo
And Carl Parisian, one of them almost had an arm bar.
joe rogan
Carl almost had Matt an arm bar.
brendan schaub
And then Matt hit a perfect corkscrew, a hitchhiker, out of it.
So if you have those in the chamber ready to go, the legs need to be perfect.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's what I was thinking.
The left shoulder had more mobility than it would if you had that leg over, but it was so tight.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's interesting how some guys, like, they get a certain way of doing it like that, and then they choose that over the other way.
eddie bravo
They'll just decide.
brendan schaub
No, no, he didn't.
joe rogan
No, not there yet.
eddie bravo
Yeah, right there, there was no way.
brendan schaub
If he would have tried to get it perfect first, he would have lost it.
joe rogan
But you know how some guys do that, though?
Some guys will choose, like, a specific way to lock up an arm bar or an arm triangle.
And it might not even be, like, the most effective, but they do it that way so much, they get it locked.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's so many variations that you can hit that arm bar.
You could hit it belly down, on your side, on your back.
Ideally, if you're controlling the action, you're going to get that arm bar and you're going to be on your back and he's going to be on his back in spiderweb.
If you're controlling everything but shit, if the guy's a beast and starts moving, you've got to move with him and you've got to make sure that you have the skills to get that arm bar in any of the positions in the scramble.
joe rogan
Do you remember when people were almost always doing the rear naked choke with the palm on the back of the head?
It was almost always.
brendan schaub
Instead of hiding it, you're saying?
joe rogan
Instead of doing the karate chop way.
It was always palm to the back of the head, and then it switched, and everybody was like, oh, yeah, that's way better if you can get it in.
brendan schaub
Well, when you have the gloves in, sometimes it's hard to get the gloves in.
joe rogan
Fedor Amelianenko, tracked down by FBI agents at Bellator 198. What?
unidentified
They've been in and out of this hotel room for the last few days, apparently, too.
What?
Because the former owner of Bellator was Michael Cohen.
brendan schaub
What?
unidentified
And there might be something up.
brendan schaub
Russian collusion.
eddie bravo
What?
unidentified
What?
eddie bravo
They could find pictures of him and Trump.
brendan schaub
Is this real, Jamie?
joe rogan
Holy shit.
unidentified
This is reported from here.
joe rogan
I mean, I'm not digging into it.
That's so crazy.
unidentified
A few other places had it, too.
brendan schaub
What if Trump and Fedor are colluding?
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Or Fedor and Putin.
brendan schaub
Oh, they're boys.
eddie bravo
We were saying before about Invisalign.
brendan schaub
Invisalign does work.
It's not working on Brian.
No, he probably takes him out.
You've got to keep him in.
And once you take him out for life, you've got to sleep with the retainer in.
eddie bravo
Oh, that's not for Brian.
Yeah, people get lazy.
I get lazy.
brendan schaub
So you're supposed to do it every night.
If you go three or four nights without using a retainer, your teeth go back to the way they used to be.
unidentified
Oh, dude, that's bullshit.
brendan schaub
Just go with the metal for like three months and lock it.
eddie bravo
It's still the same thing.
brendan schaub
Even when you're done with the metal ones, you still need to wear a retainer.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
Your teeth will go back.
It's like muscle memory.
Your teeth will go back easily.
So you've got to keep wearing a retainer.
Would you guys judge me if I got veneers?
My teeth were really fucked up.
I had some shitty-ass teeth.
Would you care, Joe?
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
Why?
joe rogan
Do you really want to get them?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
My bottom ones are like a fucking city skyline, man.
joe rogan
I know a girl got them, and she was saying, she's an actress, and she was saying it was really freaky when they were sawing her teeth down.
Like, she got to look at them before they put the caps on.
It was like, yikes.
Nightmare.
What have you done to my teeth?
eddie bravo
There's no going back now.
brendan schaub
You gotta put those caps on.
joe rogan
They saw your fucking teeth down to nubs.
brendan schaub
I'm trying to step my game up, man.
joe rogan
You look great.
eddie bravo
No, you don't need them.
brendan schaub
There's so much coffee, my teeth look like corn nuts.
Just whiten them.
joe rogan
Just whiten your teeth.
There is a problem in trying too hard.
There's a problem with veneers.
Like, how much are you trying?
You think you're trying too hard.
That's not good.
brendan schaub
That's true.
joe rogan
That's not good.
eddie bravo
Let's watch that Snatchy.
unidentified
That's true.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Let's watch that.
Lovato, son.
eddie bravo
So far, jiu-jitsu kicking ass in Bellator.
brendan schaub
That's what it was designed for tonight, man.
joe rogan
His jiu-jitsu is just crushing.
brendan schaub
You know, his strain partner is Justin Redd.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're boys.
They're close.
joe rogan
Yeah, Justin went down there to tighten up his game, and he hit some submissions now.
He hit an arm triangle in one of his fights.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's always been his thing.
Arm training has always been Justin's thing.
He's in Africa right now.
He's climbing the tallest mountain.
unidentified
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Look at the swim.
Saving kids water.
eddie bravo
From here, going belly down.
joe rogan
Gets that arm.
Gets that wrist.
Locks that leg over.
brendan schaub
Boom.
Super nasty.
joe rogan
The hips.
unidentified
Man, if we had Matt here, we could have went over that course.
brendan schaub
Woulda, shoulda, coulda.
joe rogan
But we have room.
There's plenty of room.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
It's perfect.
We could have set up another camera right away, right?
brendan schaub
So many activities.
unidentified
Oh, you know what?
eddie bravo
I think maybe the best thing would be probably because it's jiu-jitsu and you need to get good angles.
Two guys do the techniques and the third guy coaches it up.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
eddie bravo
Or not coaches it up, but follows with a remote camera.
brendan schaub
You know if Calvin's here, we're not getting any of that done.
He's just going to be fucking messing around.
What if I do this?
eddie bravo
He got a blue belt, right?
brendan schaub
What if I do this?
eddie bravo
Calum has a blue belt and he wrestled in high school, right?
joe rogan
Does he have a blue belt?
brendan schaub
I think so.
eddie bravo
He got his blue belt from Henzo.
brendan schaub
That's what he says.
eddie bravo
You wouldn't lie about a blue belt.
brendan schaub
We'd have to ask Henzo.
I remember a long time ago he told me that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I believe he's a blue belt.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've seen him roll.
We used to do Carlson Gracie's together.
brendan schaub
I've seen him roll.
joe rogan
When I first met him.
brendan schaub
No, he's definitely a blue belt.
I've seen him roll.
eddie bravo
Those little sketches he does on Instagram with...
joe rogan
The two phones?
Like an iPad beside his head?
brendan schaub
No, and that other comedian, D'Elia.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, those guys are fucking hilarious, man.
Where D'Elia, that's his name, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Chris D'Elia.
brendan schaub
That guy's basically acting like Brian Callen.
eddie bravo
And Brian, you know, he's like super confident.
brendan schaub
Like they did that one bit...
eddie bravo
I think this...
Yeah, I've seen this one.
brendan schaub
This is a good one.
Yeah, they're both in Denver right now.
unidentified
Bri, baby, my main man.
Bri, baby, my main man.
joe rogan
I got a question for you.
unidentified
I know you're in Denver.
Well, the outskirts of Denver.
joe rogan
No, I'm in Denver.
I'm in downtown.
unidentified
I don't know how much city folk would like your comedy, although maybe they do.
joe rogan
I'm sold out.
unidentified
You're doing a show.
eddie bravo
He knows that.
joe rogan
He knows that.
unidentified
I'm doing a show.
I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to help you out to sell some tickets.
Because I'm doing a show.
I'm doing two shows.
Okay, congrats.
My venue is...
Look at his neck.
1,500 cents.
So that's roughly 4,000 cents.
What are you, a cobra?
joe rogan
Look, he's a cobra.
eddie bravo
I'll punch your cobra face.
joe rogan
I'll flatten your nose and I'm gonna do that.
I'm gonna turn you into a cobra.
eddie bravo
You'll have a face as flat as a cobra.
unidentified
That's what's gonna happen.
eddie bravo
I'll flatten his cobra face.
Callan has a hilarious Instagram.
brendan schaub
Yo, Callan's show got picked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's awesome.
eddie bravo
Wasn't he already on a show?
joe rogan
He is.
brendan schaub
He's the coach on Goldberg.
joe rogan
But he's got his own show now.
brendan schaub
He has his own spin-off.
He's the star.
eddie bravo
He's still the coach?
brendan schaub
Yeah, same character.
eddie bravo
So now the premise is in the 90s.
brendan schaub
He's like Better Call Saul, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's awesome, man.
Big time.
Super happy for him.
joe rogan
What's happening here?
What fight is next?
brendan schaub
Main event?
joe rogan
Oh, is it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's the main event.
joe rogan
Is this it right now?
brendan schaub
Should be.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
That was quick!
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Well, it's been all first-round submissions.
eddie bravo
It's an hour and a half.
jamie vernon
There's still one more.
There's Emmanuel Sanchez versus Sam Sicily.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's right.
That was the catch.
Just in case.
Hey, man.
joe rogan
This is a good card.
This is a good card.
Like, we're entertained.
brendan schaub
It's a bunch of mismatches, for sure.
joe rogan
A little bit.
brendan schaub
It's good entertaining matchmaking.
joe rogan
Jiu-jitsu.
This is a seminar for a jiu-jitsu class.
brendan schaub
Like Dylan Dennis said, this is a seminar.
joe rogan
I saw a terrible video of this jiu-jitsu guy trying to take down this guy with a gun, and the guy shot him, and then got off him and shot him twice in the head at close range.
brendan schaub
I was like, Why were you watching that, Joe?
joe rogan
Exactly.
Why was I watching that?
eddie bravo
Dude, have you seen that crazy video?
brendan schaub
The crazy, crazy one?
Which one?
joe rogan
Oh, the crazy, crazy one.
brendan schaub
If it's crazy to Eddie, I'm fucking...
joe rogan
Crazy, crazy?
Crazy, crazy, crazy or crazy, crazy?
brendan schaub
The cartel killing of a cop.
joe rogan
Oh, I can't watch those.
brendan schaub
Did you watch that?
joe rogan
No, I can't watch those.
brendan schaub
Dude, on video.
I mean, they record it on their phone.
They basically slice the skin off on a dead person.
eddie bravo
There's already a dead person there.
unidentified
Okay.
brendan schaub
A cop.
And they slice his skin all the way.
They skin him alive, pull out his heart, cut his heart out, show it to him, show it to the camera, and warn anybody, it's fucking dumb.
eddie bravo
It's the darkest thing I've ever seen.
brendan schaub
I can't watch that shit.
eddie bravo
The only thing worse would be watching that happen to a baby or something.
brendan schaub
I can't watch that stuff.
eddie bravo
It's floating around.
joe rogan
It's crazy to know that that's happening somewhere in the world.
eddie bravo
It's right two hours away.
It's right there on the border of California.
joe rogan
It's happening because of organized crime.
And that organized crime is, they're surviving and thriving because drugs are illegal.
brendan schaub
And they got everyone paid off.
eddie bravo
Have you seen that documentary Cartel Land?
brendan schaub
Yes.
Jesus Christ.
You know the best part of that?
That one guy who's like kind of, he's going against the cartel and he gets his dick sucked by his mistress and he goes, bueno, bueno.
You know what I'm talking about?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's the best part, bro.
You know what's funny is halfway through that documentary, it looks like everyone being armed is the solution.
eddie bravo
So halfway through the documentary, I'm already texting people going, shit, you gotta watch this.
brendan schaub
Look what happens when everyone has machine guns.
eddie bravo
But then it slowly goes south.
brendan schaub
Have you seen it, Joe?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Like the main star.
eddie bravo
You haven't seen it?
brendan schaub
Cartel Land?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
The main star of it.
He's like fighting back against the cartel.
He's married.
He forgets he's mic'd up.
Sees his mistress.
And there's subtext.
He's getting his dick sucked.
And you see the subtext.
eddie bravo
Bueno, bueno.
brendan schaub
Then he comes out.
He's like, everyone good?
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Ah, bueno.
That's hilarious.
brendan schaub
He was a hero.
eddie bravo
And he had a lot of groupies.
brendan schaub
And he forgot they were filming everything.
And he was mic'd.
And he had a lot of groupies.
unidentified
And he would jump on them.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
I need to see that.
I was telling you about American Made.
The Barry Seals movie with Tom Cruise.
Another badass Tom Cruise movie.
brendan schaub
I haven't seen that.
He's on the airplanes.
He's jumping around.
joe rogan
Dude, it's good, man.
brendan schaub
It's a really good movie.
joe rogan
It's a good movie.
Look, I know a lot of the Barry Seals story, and they covered a lot of it.
You can only cover so much of it in a 90-minute movie, but...
Look, I mean, they did not pull any punches.
They made it look like Bill Clinton got him off.
Bill Clinton called the prosecutor.
They caught him with millions of dollars in cocaine and money.
brendan schaub
Did they say why?
joe rogan
Bill Clinton?
Nope.
They have her on the phone with Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton, like, he's telling her, I'm going to walk.
Whether or not he said that, I don't know, because he's dead.
No one knows, right?
And he's telling her, trust me, I'm going to walk right out of here.
And they're all laughing at him.
And she's like, you're not going to walk anyway.
And they're like, Mrs. Prosecutor, Bill Clinton's on the phone.
And it's Governor Clinton, yes.
And you see her just get pissed off.
Next thing you know, they're uncuffing him, and he's leaving.
So they're letting you know that Bill Clinton...
The only way you could put that in a movie is there has to be some truth to him.
There's got to be some sort of a documented record of him making that call.
He made that call.
He had to have made that call.
brendan schaub
Otherwise defamation of character, right?
joe rogan
Of course.
brendan schaub
It's Bill Clinton.
joe rogan
And he is the governor.
So there's probably a record of him saying, let that guy go.
And so the reason they think is because in the film, this is what they're saying, is that he was tied in with the CIA. And somehow or another, through the CIA using him for reconnaissance photos and stuff like that, and he eventually got hooked up with these drug dealers and started selling drugs, the CIA was in on it.
And they were allowing him to do it.
And he was getting them photographs, And intel from all these different drug places.
And in return, they were letting him do whatever he did and taking a piece of it, probably.
brendan schaub
Did they mention Mena, Arkansas?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they mentioned all the...
I mean, that's where Bill Clinton was the governor of.
They only found out about all this stuff because two kids were killed.
They were murdered.
And they told the parents that the kids had gotten high and fell asleep on the train tracks.
But the parents did an independent autopsy and found stab wounds in the kids.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
So they're like, oh Jesus, what the fuck happened here?
And then slowly but surely the whole thing unravels.
brendan schaub
They witnessed a drug drop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
And they couldn't have any witnesses.
joe rogan
Dude, they made Mina look like it was lit.
eddie bravo
It's a big case.
brendan schaub
You can go to YouTube and just punch in CIA, Mina, Arkansas, cocaine.
Boom.
And you get the whole...
It's a serious...
So who killed those two kids?
joe rogan
We don't know.
We don't know.
Somebody was in on it.
They assume the CIA? The kids must have seen the drugs be dropped, and whoever was selling the drugs, moving the drugs, they just decided to kill these kids.
Because they couldn't take a chance, the kids keeping their mouths shut.
So they killed them.
And apparently that was just one thing, though.
In the movie, the way they have it made up is that that was just one thing, this sort of straw that broke the camel's back.
They don't even have that.
I don't even remember if they had that in the movie.
eddie bravo
The kids?
joe rogan
Did they have that in the movie, the murder?
They didn't have the murder of the kids.
No, they didn't.
But what they did have is these people were, I mean, everybody was rich.
They were all coming in and buying things, and everyone was like, where the fuck is all this money coming from?
brendan schaub
Who was rich?
joe rogan
The people that were working with Barry Seals.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
Like his brother-in-law, like his wife's brother.
Apparently, I don't know if that was a real person, but in the movie, he's balling out of control, and he's got some fucking ridiculous souped-up car, and he's got money coming out of his pockets, and he's stuffing his pockets, and he gets caught by a cop.
You know, and I don't know if that happened in real life, but in the movie, they made it seem like everybody was just, there was so much money flowing around, it didn't make any sense.
They were burying it in his backyard.
When they busted him, it was like, in the movie, now, again, I don't know if this was real.
Because, you know what fucked me up, man?
That Mark Schultz movie.
The Mark Schultz movie?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Because I know Mark Schultz fought one time in the UFC because I watched it.
He fought Big Daddy Goodrich.
He took Big Daddy Goodrich down and beat the shit out of him.
brendan schaub
And they didn't use Big Daddy.
joe rogan
No, not only did they use Big Daddy in the movie, he's fighting some Russian dude.
brendan schaub
Some random dude.
joe rogan
Some white guy.
He's fighting a white guy.
It's not a historical movie.
brendan schaub
Also, Schultz had, there's no gay relationship there.
That's the other thing.
joe rogan
He's like, what the fuck was that about, man?
They bleached his hair and made him look like he was hanging out with the fox catcher.
brendan schaub
And like him and the coach were like into each other?
That was weird, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was fucking weird, man.
brendan schaub
That's that Hollywood shit, though.
Yeah, Mark Schultz told me that that movie's full of shit.
joe rogan
Well, it's 100% full of shit.
He's super upset about it, too.
Because he doesn't fight Gary Goodrich at the end.
Why would you change history?
Like, this is what we're talking about before, about people jizzing the soup?
No fucking way!
No fucking way!
How easy is it to check?
Because I can't trust anything.
I can't trust anything in a movie.
brendan schaub
Hollywood doesn't know fighting, though.
joe rogan
The movie was great.
Steve Carell is fucking amazing.
brendan schaub
He has a nose on him.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
But I know what really happened.
I know that he fought Big Daddy Goodrich.
Why isn't he fighting Big Daddy Goodrich in your fucking movie?
brendan schaub
You don't think they overlooked it?
joe rogan
You can't overlook that.
brendan schaub
They don't know shit.
joe rogan
He only fought once.
It's a part of the movie.
brendan schaub
I hear you, man.
joe rogan
It's a very important part of his life.
brendan schaub
It's really easy.
Just get a black guy.
joe rogan
So what do they do?
brendan schaub
Maybe Gary did sign off on his likeness or name?
joe rogan
He doesn't have to.
He doesn't have to.
It's history.
There's a reality to it.
You don't have to have him say his name.
You show Big Daddy Goodrich across from him.
You show him.
You have Mark Schultz.
You just cut into it right when they're introducing him.
And then have the guy and, you know, have him wear the gi, just like Big Daddy Goodrich had a gi on.
This guy didn't have a gi on.
This is stupid.
You can't change history.
This is a real historical moment.
It was a moment when one of the best wrestlers on the fucking planet Earth, a legit, super high-level Olympian, fought in the UFC. And he only fought once.
And you got to see how easy he took an elite MMA fighter down and just dominated him.
That was an important historical moment in MMA. It's a strange thing.
brendan schaub
They missed it.
joe rogan
Changing who breaks Jackie Robinson's record or Babe Ruth's record or Mickey Mantle.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
You're changing history.
You could never do that with baseball.
Nobody would let you...
brendan schaub
But you don't think because those are major sports and a lot of people would know that with MMA, they're just like, ah, whatever, man.
joe rogan
They might have done that, but that makes me not trust everything else in the movie.
Because if you did that with a very important point...
That's a very important point, because Big Daddy Goodrich is a legend.
The Paul Herrera knockout, when Paul Herrera had him at fireman's carry, and he hit him with all those elbows.
eddie bravo
That's probably the most brutal KO in MMA history.
joe rogan
It's one of them.
It's certainly, certainly one of them.
brendan schaub
I mean, that was a terrifying, terrifying KO. How easy is that for them to fix, too, if you just put some sort of reference to Gary Goodrich?
joe rogan
Dude, Big Daddy Goodrich, he head-kicked Don Frye.
Remember that?
brendan schaub
He's a monster, man.
joe rogan
He neck-kicked him and KO'd him?
You know, Big Daddy Goodrich is an important historical figure in MMA. You can't just change the name of the guy Mark Schultz fights.
brendan schaub
Good movie, though.
I lost faith in Based on a True Story movies when The Dragon came out, the Bruce Lee movie by Jason Scott.
He played Bruce Lee.
eddie bravo
And there was so much bullshit in there.
Oh, my God.
It was filled with bullshit.
brendan schaub
In the movie, he had a real fight at the Long Beach Arena.
In reality, he was just doing demonstrations, but in the movie, they had him.
He didn't have a real fight there?
eddie bravo
He didn't have a real fight there.
And in the movie, during the fight, his opponent broke his back with a sidekick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I remember that.
eddie bravo
And in the movie, he was in the hospital.
brendan schaub
That was heartbreaking.
eddie bravo
In reality, he fucked his back up lifting weights.
brendan schaub
He was lifting weights.
He never broke his back in that fight?
No.
He never had a fight.
eddie bravo
I love Bruce Lee to death, but he never had a professional fight.
brendan schaub
Ever.
Ever, right?
Ever.
Not one fight.
eddie bravo
Never.
joe rogan
No, I don't think he ever competed.
I don't think he had an amateur fight either.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I mean, he fought.
joe rogan
On the streets.
eddie bravo
Yeah, on the streets.
brendan schaub
And he fought in the YMCA for the right to teach non-Asians Kung Fu in San Francisco.
Well, that'd be a fight, though, right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, he had real fights.
He was a real fighter, but he didn't have a real professional fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He didn't have anything like that.
eddie bravo
He broke his back lifting weights, not in a professional fight.
brendan schaub
Damn, how many weights was he lifting?
When I saw that, I thought, okay, I can't trust any Hollywood movies now.
Based on a true story, it's a little bit true.
They've got to paint a narrative a little bit.
joe rogan
No.
No.
Well, no, you can't change.
unidentified
It's not a documentary.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
eddie bravo
Now it's inspired by true events.
unidentified
Inspired.
brendan schaub
See, I dig that shit.
joe rogan
You can't add stuff.
You can't add stuff.
You can't add a gay relationship.
You can't add a karate kick to the back that fucks you up and puts you in the hospital.
You can't add that.
eddie bravo
Oh, and in reality, he had to fight.
If he beat this guy at a YMCA... He had the right to teach non-Asians, because that was an issue back then.
brendan schaub
It was in the 60s.
eddie bravo
Yeah, they were like, why are you teaching Americans or shit?
And he was like, I'll teach anybody the fuck I want.
So he had a fight at a YMCA. In the movie, in the movie, it was in an underground cavern with elders in these little spots.
Yeah, and he scratched his chest.
brendan schaub
Did he scratch his chest, though?
eddie bravo
And then the guy fucked his back up again.
brendan schaub
Yes, he kicks him.
eddie bravo
Yes, but it was in a weird Illuminati cave.
brendan schaub
I love that part, though.
joe rogan
I hate when they do that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was all bullshit.
eddie bravo
It was a great movie, though.
unidentified
It was a great movie.
joe rogan
You can't do that about a real person.
brendan schaub
Watch a documentary, you fucks.
joe rogan
That's like when Abraham Lincoln fought the vampires, it was obvious it wasn't real.
brendan schaub
That's a good-ass movie.
unidentified
That...
brendan schaub
That's a good movie though, man.
eddie bravo
That was a crazy ass movie.
What if that was real?
joe rogan
What if it was real?
Hey, we don't know.
Maybe he killed them all and that's why we could sleep good at night.
brendan schaub
That movie's so underrated.
eddie bravo
We do know a lot of people out there are drinking baby blood.
brendan schaub
Maybe after a while you turn into like a vampire kind of person.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if vampires were something you really had to worry about?
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
eddie bravo
They might be out there.
They might be out there.
joe rogan
We're so Imagine if there was dudes out there sucking people's blood and a bunch of people found with their jugular veins tapped into by those two prongs.
eddie bravo
Isn't it weird that it's kind of romantic?
Chicks think that's romantic.
brendan schaub
You bite a girl's neck.
True blood.
joe rogan
But you know why?
Because the guy loves you so much.
You love him so much, you're willing to be the undead.
brendan schaub
And live for eternity.
joe rogan
Go for eternity.
The best one ever by fucking Twilight.
Gary Oldman and Winona Ryder.
Bram Stoker's Dracula.
unidentified
It is fucking fantastic.
eddie bravo
I made a music video out of that one.
brendan schaub
Interview with the Vampire is fucking good, too.
joe rogan
That's very good, but it's a different vampire.
brendan schaub
Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, Tom Cruise killed it in that, too.
Killed in that too.
He was really good in that with that little girl.
brendan schaub
That little girl was a beast.
joe rogan
That was fucked up.
brendan schaub
That little girl's...
joe rogan
Kristen Dunst.
brendan schaub
Yes, she was in Spider-Man.
joe rogan
Amazing.
She's amazing.
In that movie, she's fucking fantastic.
She's like 10 and she's killing it as a little vampire.
That's terrifying too because you believe it.
eddie bravo
I know.
joe rogan
And she would dress those people up after they were dead and people were like, what the fuck?
eddie bravo
You killed them?
brendan schaub
And even Top Cruise was like, you gotta chill out.
She was killing it.
joe rogan
Couldn't help it.
She'd kill everybody.
brendan schaub
I want to see that now.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, I want to see that.
brendan schaub
I want to order a large pizza and watch that.
joe rogan
She might have been the scariest vampire ever.
That little girl.
brendan schaub
She's up there.
joe rogan
She's up there, right?
Because she's so fucking cute and so vicious because she was like 300 years old, but she was 10. You know who's not a bad vampire is Colin Farrell in Night of the Living Dead.
Not bad at all.
brendan schaub
Not bad.
joe rogan
Not bad.
It's not Night of the Living Dead.
I know what you're talking about.
brendan schaub
It's the newest one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The kid who died.
joe rogan
What is it called?
The fuck is it called?
It's not Night of the Living Dead.
unidentified
Is that Night of the Living Dead?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
No.
eddie bravo
From Dust Till Dawn?
joe rogan
No, that was good, too.
unidentified
Fright Night?
brendan schaub
Fright Night!
joe rogan
That's it.
That's it.
Fright Night.
Dust Till Dawn's good.
eddie bravo
Dude, how many vampire movies have there been?
brendan schaub
I watch them all.
unidentified
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
I watch them all.
They really want to push those things.
I love them.
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
The Twilight one's the most ridiculous.
unidentified
What's up with vampires?
joe rogan
They could live in the Seattle area because it never was sunny.
brendan schaub
That's some bullshit.
They have the makeup on.
joe rogan
They don't burn when the sun hits them.
eddie bravo
Blade?
That was a vampire movie, right?
brendan schaub
Blade's a fucking good one.
joe rogan
That's a good one.
brendan schaub
No, Colin Farrell was a beast in that.
That's a good movie.
There's probably more vampire movies than space movies.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
No?
eddie bravo
No, I think there are.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
I think it's just this year alone.
joe rogan
Star Wars, Aliens, Star Trek.
You can just keep going on.
Event Horizon.
Gravity.
You can keep going on and on and on.
eddie bravo
All the aliens.
I disagree, homeboy.
brendan schaub
You're on for this.
Disagree.
joe rogan
Hey, have you guys seen Lost in Space on Netflix?
Have you heard anything about it?
brendan schaub
No, any good.
joe rogan
Do you hear anything about that, Jamie?
Lost in Space?
Supposed to be any good?
unidentified
The trailer looked good.
jamie vernon
I didn't hear good reviews, though.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
I know they got a new show they're doing with that chick from Battlestar Galactica.
Katie, how do you say her name, Sackhoff?
She's badass.
Did you ever see Battlestar Galactica, the sci-fi version?
brendan schaub
No, wasn't Battlestar Galactica with John Travolta the worst movie of all time?
joe rogan
No, no, no, Battlefield Earth.
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're fucking up today with the names.
brendan schaub
I'm fucking up.
Trump gave NASA a whole shitload of money, like $19 billion, and said, okay, here's the money, but we're going to the fucking moon.
Let's go to the moon.
So they started a campaign to go to the moon, and they just canceled the mission.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
They didn't cancel the mission.
They canceled the moon rover.
brendan schaub
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
They canceled the construction of the moon rover, and everybody's confused.
They don't know how they did that, because this is like the last moon rover that they had.
Unless they have some new top-secret moon rover that they don't want to let anybody know about.
brendan schaub
Maybe they found some new cool shit.
joe rogan
Maybe.
brendan schaub
Probably.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Maybe they can't go.
joe rogan
Imagine if we really did.
Trump said, let's go.
eddie bravo
And they're like, okay, give us the money.
brendan schaub
Let's figure it out.
eddie bravo
Okay, we'll figure it out.
We got 19 billion.
joe rogan
Imagine if we really did find out.
eddie bravo
Nobody else is working on it, putting a rover on the moon.
brendan schaub
And NASA wasn't either until Trump said, here's the money, let's go to the fucking moon, and then we're going to Mars.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if Trump goes on TV and says, there's a lot of things to talk about?
One of them is, it's a terrible tragedy.
We've never been in the moon, ladies and gentlemen.
brendan schaub
I feel like that's some shit he would do.
eddie bravo
If he found out, he doesn't know.
He doesn't know.
joe rogan
How do you know he doesn't let him know?
brendan schaub
He's too busy with...
joe rogan
He's friends with Alex Jones.
eddie bravo
They don't really talk that much.
joe rogan
Because they can't.
They can't.
Everywhere they go, they're wearing wires.
Everyone's wearing a wire.
Their phones are being tapped.
eddie bravo
You know who QAnon is?
brendan schaub
QAnon?
joe rogan
I've heard about that.
brendan schaub
It's crazy shit, dude.
joe rogan
What is it?
brendan schaub
QAnon is someone in the Trump administration, people think it's someone in intelligence, in the military, who's dropping all these clues on 4chan and 8chan.
eddie bravo
So the whole thing is, is it real?
brendan schaub
Is it disinformation?
Is someone playing a trick?
But he legally can't say what's going on behind the scenes.
joe rogan
Another leg lock.
Look at this.
He legally can't say.
eddie bravo
Because it's against the law.
brendan schaub
So he's dropping all these clues.
eddie bravo
And it's someone named Q Anon.
brendan schaub
And it's been going on for about three months.
And there's all these people in the underground.
eddie bravo
Basically, he's saying, trust the president.
It's going to take a while to take down all these corrupt people.
brendan schaub
People at the top of the FBI and the Department of Justice and all this shit.
We're gonna take him down one by one.
eddie bravo
So he's been dropping all these clues on how they're gonna do it.
It's pretty interesting.
brendan schaub
You listen to it every day, his drops every day, and it's like it gets addicting.
eddie bravo
But you don't know if it's real or not.
Is it disinformation?
It's called QAnon.
And he makes drops every day and leaves all these clues of what's going on behind the scenes.
brendan schaub
But no one can trace back to find out who he is or anything like that?
I think on 4chan or 8chan, hackers know how to drop information without being tracked, right?
Oh, for sure.
Right?
eddie bravo
That's what's going on.
Have you heard of QAnon?
brendan schaub
I know you have, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's a bunch of posts about it, but again, who knows if it's real or not?
brendan schaub
Yeah, but the people that...
I mean, there's a guy named Jerome Corsi who works for Alex Jones.
That's his job, is to analyze all these clues of what's going on, what Trump is doing behind the scenes, because he's got the media...
The entire media, Hollywood, FBI, and what they're finding out is they're finding text messages and emails going back and forth between key people running the government, colluding to destroy Trump.
That's what's going on.
joe rogan
Well, for sure, they don't want him around.
None of those people that have been in politics, established politics forever...
brendan schaub
They didn't think he was going to win, so they did all this shit thinking Hillary was going to win, but now that he won, they're going back and looking at all the text messages from all these super powerful people.
People are resigning.
It's crazy shit going on, and most people don't know.
eddie bravo
It's like Game of Thrones for real.
You know how Game of Thrones has like 50 characters, and it would take you about a month to catch up on what's going on.
There's just so much going on.
That's what's going on.
brendan schaub
There's Game of Thrones going on right now, but the media is only going to tell you their side, and then QAnon is dropping the behind-the-scenes clues.
joe rogan
It's pretty fascinating.
There's a scanning arm triangle here.
brendan schaub
Another submission.
eddie bravo
This is interesting.
joe rogan
This is over.
eddie bravo
100% it's over.
brendan schaub
100% it's over.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
Is he talking to the camera?
Oh, go back to the camera.
He's talking to it.
eddie bravo
He should jump to full guard.
He should jump to full guard.
joe rogan
Why do you think this is definitely done?
eddie bravo
It's so deep and the guy's not doing anything with his left hand.
Well, he wasn't.
If he just jumps full guard, it's over.
unidentified
Oh, he's in trouble.
brendan schaub
He goes down.
eddie bravo
There you go.
brendan schaub
Okay, it's over now.
eddie bravo
No way he's going to survive.
joe rogan
No way.
Damn, any problem will call that shit.
brendan schaub
Four submissions.
eddie bravo
Arm triangle and full guard is death.
joe rogan
And how about the arm triangle from standing position drags him to the ground and punishes it.
brendan schaub
That was sick.
That happens every now and then.
You see it every now and then.
It's rare you see it.
eddie bravo
But you got to...
You gotta be tapping people so much with your arm triangle, you have so much faith in it, and it's gotta be your go-to to take a chance like that.
brendan schaub
If it's not your go-to, that's why you don't really see it, because there's not that many fighters overall in MMA that are known for amazing arm triangles.
It's kind of popular.
eddie bravo
It is probably, you know, I would say 25% of MMA fighters have high-level arm triangles.
brendan schaub
I would say maybe that's a little high, but, you know, about 20-25%.
joe rogan
Well, what he did there that was like special was get sideways.
He was doing like a rear naked choke from the side.
brendan schaub
Is that a Brazilian?
Or a Mexican?
joe rogan
What is his name, Jamie?
They fought Sam Cecilia?
brendan schaub
He pointed to the Brazil flag on shorts.
joe rogan
This is dope.
Look at how he clamps his shit down.
Very interesting.
Very interesting.
Because look how tight he gets it, man.
He gets it super tight.
unidentified
Emmanuel Sanchez.
joe rogan
Emmanuel Sanchez.
brendan schaub
That's Mexican.
joe rogan
Hell yeah!
eddie bravo
Hey, Mexicans, they got heart.
joe rogan
Dude, this is phenomenal.
brendan schaub
You know who needs to make a comeback?
Phenomenal.
Once he goes to full guard, look at this.
eddie bravo
See what he's doing with his left hand?
He's not really protecting anything, so that shows me that he kind of doesn't know how to get out of it.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Super snuggie.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
brendan schaub
The Mexican that we need to come back is Yair Rodriguez.
joe rogan
Well, they offered Yair Rodriguez a beat.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Magomed Sharapov.
brendan schaub
Yair actually came into my gym last week, a couple days.
joe rogan
Yair did?
brendan schaub
Yep.
eddie bravo
He came in with Kelvin.
They've been hanging out.
brendan schaub
He's phenomenal, man.
joe rogan
Phenomenal.
You don't want to see him versus Zabit?
No.
Why not?
brendan schaub
That would be amazing.
unidentified
Are you crazy?
Hold, hold.
eddie bravo
You don't want someone to lose.
unidentified
No, hold on.
brendan schaub
Amazing fight.
Yair just fought Frankie Edgar.
Well, his last fight was Frankie.
It lost, right?
Got dismantled.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
So you're going to toss him fucking Zabit, who could probably beat the top five right now?
Why not?
Why not?
eddie bravo
Who wouldn't want to see that?
brendan schaub
We do, but if you care about Yair, the hardcore knows Zabit, but he's not a huge name.
So for Yair, it's a huge risk.
joe rogan
So you think Zabit beats Yair?
You think he beats him?
brendan schaub
It's a tough fucking fight for him, man.
After Frankie Edgar?
joe rogan
Right.
True.
brendan schaub
Do you want to build a star or not?
joe rogan
Different fight.
eddie bravo
Tough fight.
brendan schaub
I'd like to see it because Yair, in my opinion, has the most dynamic stand-up in all of MMA. Because he throws so much crazy shit.
eddie bravo
He's throwing the wild shit.
joe rogan
I love that shit.
So does Zabit.
eddie bravo
That's why I want to see it.
brendan schaub
I want to see it look like a Jackie Chan fight.
joe rogan
Zabit, he's got a bunch of really solid fundamental movements.
When he lands, he'll throw something, and even if he's off, he'll shuffle and adjust and always be in perfect position.
He's really good at throwing kicks and throwing punches or elbows or knees, anything he does.
He hits you, and then boom, he's in perfect position.
brendan schaub
He doesn't have any holes.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've never seen him stumble or look weird.
He's never off balance.
eddie bravo
He's on the same team as Khabib?
No.
joe rogan
No, he's a Mark Henry guy.
He's a Mark Henry guy in New Jersey.
Mark Henry told me about him.
unidentified
So they're not friends?
eddie bravo
They're kind of friends.
joe rogan
They're friends.
They're all from Dagestan.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
From the same place.
eddie bravo
Maybe they came up together in the same club, right?
brendan schaub
Dagestan's pretty big.
eddie bravo
Because I see that Khabib is always retweeting.
Retweeting.
joe rogan
Retweeting.
Well, they're from the motherland.
But Zabid is a very different game.
I mean, he's not a wrestler per se.
brendan schaub
He's got really good jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
He's got very good everything.
eddie bravo
He's got all games.
joe rogan
He's good at everything.
brendan schaub
So if you're Yair and you're a young kid, you just got your ass whipped by Frankie.
Obviously taking a year off.
He's trying to figure things out.
And you're going to fight Zabit, who I think could hang with the top five right now.
You want to fight him right now when he's ranked, what, maybe 14th, 13th?
If you're going to fight him, let him fight when he's like 5, 3, 2, or when he's the champ.
Not now.
joe rogan
I know Zabit's people wanted that fight.
I don't know if they made that fight, though.
brendan schaub
They didn't, because I know Yair's agent.
joe rogan
Congrats on a great win, Zebi.
It'll be an honor to fight you one day.
We'll have to meet each other in the top ten, which I know you'll make quickly in my next fight coming up, so stay tuned.
brendan schaub
I know Yair's agent really well.
There's no way they'd take that fight.
joe rogan
So you think that's what it is?
You think they made a conscious decision?
Now's not the right time to fight him.
eddie bravo
Wait till he's top 10. He should be top 10 already, right?
unidentified
He should be.
joe rogan
In my opinion.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
In my opinion, yeah.
I watched him against Bokniak.
And again, you know, Bokniak's super tough guy.
eddie bravo
Say his last name.
joe rogan
Kyle Bokniak.
brendan schaub
No, no.
eddie bravo
Zabip's last name.
joe rogan
Magomed Sharapov.
eddie bravo
Fuck!
brendan schaub
It's not even happening for me.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
Damn.
brendan schaub
It took me three years to get Nurmagomedov.
joe rogan
I stumbled through it a couple of times.
At the weigh-ins, I stumbled through it, too.
eddie bravo
Did you have to practice?
joe rogan
Will you read it?
Like, if I read it, like, I watched him fight, but when I watched him fight, it says Zabit, whatever the fuck his last name is.
But it wasn't until I have to call it that I gotta remember.
brendan schaub
I have to hear it.
Like, if I hear you say it, like, multiple times, then I can pick it up.
joe rogan
But just to read it, I'm screwed.
Megamed Sharapov.
Magomed Sharapov.
brendan schaub
That's not that hard.
joe rogan
They want you to just call him Zabit.
Because for American fans, that's a hard sell.
Nurmagomedov is hard, but everybody calls him Khabib for the most part.
Zabit is super high level, man.
I was so impressed with his striking.
brendan schaub
And he had a broken fist.
joe rogan
Entered the fight.
He broke his hand hitting the pads.
He fucked up his knuckle.
brendan schaub
Mark Henry told me he's the most talented guy he's ever seen come through his gym.
Eddie Alvarez, Barboza, Frankie Edgar.
Says Zabit, by far the most talented guy.
Hey, how about that Kevin Lee fight with Barboza?
unidentified
Woo!
eddie bravo
Damn!
joe rogan
Kevin Lee's a beast.
brendan schaub
How great did Kevin Lee look?
Dude.
See, I think Kevin Khabib is a great fight.
joe rogan
It's a great fight.
brendan schaub
Who takes who down?
See, I think Kevin Lee does some things better than Khabib does.
And Khabib does some things better than Kevin.
But I think Kevin's better at the more important things.
eddie bravo
It's hard to tell who does what better.
It really is because they're both so good at everything.
And they got good striking.
joe rogan
They both got good striking.
eddie bravo
Who's better at striking?
joe rogan
Kevin.
brendan schaub
Kevin Lee by a long shot.
But Khabib's good too.
joe rogan
He's good.
Yeah, Khabib's good.
But Kevin Lee's better.
brendan schaub
That's a stretch.
joe rogan
He's better standing up.
The real question is going to be in the wrestling.
Because Khabib's...
His number one goal is not to stand up and have a kickboxing match with you.
His number one goal is to maul you.
brendan schaub
And whoever gets the takedown, it all comes down to how good the guy on the bottom is off his cap.
Kevin's a better grappler.
Kevin's a better grappler.
He's better at finishing from the back.
Correct.
eddie bravo
And look at his mount.
brendan schaub
And his pass and his finishing.
joe rogan
His passing in that fight, the passing in the first round.
First of all, he took Barboza down quicker than Khabib did.
Khabib struggled.
Barboza shook him off a couple of times.
No.
But Khabib breaks everybody.
Everybody that grapples with him.
You find out.
brendan schaub
You know, Kevin has a higher takedown success.
joe rogan
Right, but Khabib, even against guys that are really good like Dos Anjos, he mauls those motherfuckers.
He mauls people.
brendan schaub
No, it's a great fight, man.
joe rogan
It's a great fight.
brendan schaub
It seems like Khabib is the kind of guy, he's new.
He's 25 years old?
eddie bravo
He's only 25. Yeah.
joe rogan
He's smart as fuck, too, man.
Kevin Lee is smart as fuck, man.
brendan schaub
Kevin Lee, Khabib, to me, is the most interesting fight.
eddie bravo
Don't forget about Tony.
brendan schaub
Don't forget about Trey.
unidentified
But he's out for a little bit.
brendan schaub
Tony Khabib, I'd love to see that, but I'd love to see Tony Nate Diaz.
But however, with Tony being hurt, so I don't put him in the discussion right now.
Kevin Lee, Khabib's the fight from there.
joe rogan
That surgery, that stitches, the size of the fucking wound on him, I've never seen anything like that in my life.
brendan schaub
It was like a motorcycle accident.
eddie bravo
His whole LCL came off.
brendan schaub
That poor dude.
joe rogan
I've never seen anybody with a more horrific surgical wound on their knee.
brendan schaub
That's heartbreaking, man.
joe rogan
That's like some 1980s shit, like when they used to have to open you up in a suitcase and check around and replace shit.
brendan schaub
He's not a guy I'm worried about.
You know, some guys when they get injured, I'm like, oh, fuck.
I'm not worried about Tony for some reason.
joe rogan
Look at that, though, dude.
Do you know how big that is?
That's a giant-ass wound.
That looks like a 12-inch wound.
eddie bravo
They had to reattach the whole thing.
That's a rare knee operation right there.
joe rogan
The fact that that happened while he was just walking and tripped is so fucking crazy that a guy with his kind of balance He must have been exhausted.
That's the only thing that makes sense.
He must have been just run ragged doing all these interviews and then like peaking during training.
unidentified
Just a freak.
brendan schaub
Just a freak accident.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, I'm just making things up.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
Fuck, but it's such a bummer.
Oh, we should talk about this.
unidentified
He's already training.
joe rogan
I've talked about this before.
We should talk about it again.
He was not wearing sunglasses.
That was something.
He misspoke.
He said he was wearing prescription sunglasses to Ariel Helwani.
Is that what he said?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was a mistake.
So everybody's repeating this, including me and Dana and all these other people.
We thought he was wearing sunglasses inside like he does when he does those stare downs.
It's not what was going on.
brendan schaub
Even if he was, I don't think so.
He was wearing regular glasses.
joe rogan
He was wearing regular glasses.
eddie bravo
They weren't sunglasses.
joe rogan
It had nothing to do with it.
He just tripped.
brendan schaub
I don't care what sunglasses.
joe rogan
But people were mocking him.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
That sucks.
Especially when the guy is at the door of the most important fight of his career.
brendan schaub
Tony would have fought anyways.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
He was going to fight anyways.
unidentified
He was crazy.
brendan schaub
In a good way.
eddie bravo
He didn't care.
joe rogan
You guys remember Pride when Sakuraba would literally wrap his legs up like a mummy?
eddie bravo
That's what Tony was going to do.
The doctors wouldn't let him.
brendan schaub
So he went to two different doctors.
But Khabib's not fighting for a while because of Ramadan, right?
I don't know.
He can't fight until the end of the year.
joe rogan
When is Ramadan?
brendan schaub
He's out for a few months because of his religion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So then you do what?
Eddie Alvarez?
joe rogan
You know who fought through Ramadan?
Went through his training camp through Ramadan is Bilal Muhammad.
He figured out a way to do it.
And the way to do it is to not train until nighttime.
Make sure he eats first and then trains at nighttime.
But he did it.
He fought well.
No, he did it.
He did and he fought well.
He just adjusted his training camp.
unidentified
Who did he fight?
joe rogan
I forget.
I don't remember who he fought.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
We'd have to watch it.
At a championship level, I would hold off too if I'm Khabib.
joe rogan
Right.
I see what you're saying.
I see what you're saying.
brendan schaub
But you can do it.
joe rogan
But I remember he fought a good guy.
I don't remember who it was.
brendan schaub
I remember watching it.
joe rogan
It was interesting.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he figured out his schedule where he could pull it off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It can't be the best way to go about it.
joe rogan
Not the best way to go.
brendan schaub
He's a badass, though.
joe rogan
You wouldn't do it if it wasn't for your religion.
There's no way you would do it.
Just for performance, there's no way you would do it.
But you could do it.
It could be done.
Because you just gotta wait till dark, right?
brendan schaub
If I'm Khabib, though, I just...
Yeah, that's not that hard.
It's not that hard.
It's not ideal, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not ideal.
eddie bravo
Well, it's fasting.
It is ideal, apparently.
These days, it's the best thing you can do.
joe rogan
No, but it's not the way...
First of all, if you're going to do it, you wouldn't do it like that.
brendan schaub
You wouldn't do it during the day.
joe rogan
You wouldn't do it like that, and you would do it where you stop eating at like 5 in the afternoon, and then you would go all through the night if you want to have like a long...
brendan schaub
Some people argue that's not good.
joe rogan
Who argues that's not good?
brendan schaub
Well, just from our human genetics, that you're going to be hungry at night, right?
So you don't get as good of sleep.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it depends on what kind of foods you're eating.
That's a big part of what it is.
If you're eating a lot of refined carbohydrates, you're going to get really hungry at night, for sure.
And you're going to want to eat again.
But if you're on more of a fat-based diet, you could pull that off for sure.
brendan schaub
100%.
I did it nonstop.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could pull it off for sure.
The real question is, is that the best thing to do for physical performance?
And it's most likely not.
brendan schaub
I would say no.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think so.
We had Zach Bitter in here the other day.
Ready for this record?
This motherfucker ran 100 miles in 11 hours and 40 minutes.
He was averaging a 7-minute mile.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
joe rogan
For almost 12 hours.
brendan schaub
How big is he?
joe rogan
He weighs four pounds.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He weighs a buck forty.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's a very thin guy.
Still though, that's cool.
He's on a fat-based diet.
He's on a keto diet, essentially.
But when he goes to race, he takes a lot of carbohydrates.
brendan schaub
Is he Nigerian?
Sugars and everything.
joe rogan
No, white guy.
unidentified
Kenyan?
joe rogan
Super smart.
brendan schaub
Thanks, Kevin.
joe rogan
Super smart white dude.
Really nice guy.
But imagine that shit.
brendan schaub
Happens.
joe rogan
Do you know how strong your fucking mind has to be?
How strong your mind has to be to run 11 hours and 40 minutes?
brendan schaub
Is that a world record?
joe rogan
Yep.
Is it a world record?
U.S. record?
U.S. American record.
eddie bravo
Who holds the record?
brendan schaub
Kenyans?
joe rogan
Probably.
eddie bravo
Or Mexicans.
brendan schaub
Seven minutes?
eddie bravo
Mexicans can run marathons.
brendan schaub
We don't play football or basketball, but shit.
We could run for a long-ass time in the mountains of Mexico City.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Well, that's part of that book, Born to Run.
eddie bravo
The Chilapas Mountains.
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys who ran like basically barefoot.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
There's some boys in New Mexico, too.
They're like the number one cross-country team.
All the Mexicans there.
eddie bravo
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Mexicans are known for cardio.
brendan schaub
They destroy all the white kids.
joe rogan
Mexicans are really known for cardio.
It's very interesting.
eddie bravo
Heart.
joe rogan
Heart and cardio.
unidentified
Look at the boxers, look at the MMA fighters.
joe rogan
MMA fighters, boxers, yep, known for cardio.
How about Julio Cesar Chavez?
That motherfucker just was overwhelming.
He never stopped coming at you.
He was so beautiful when he was in his prime.
When he would throw combinations, like to the body, to the head, uppercut, step to the side, right hand, left hook, right hand, to the body, he was just non-stop.
His volume was so impressive, and his placement, just fucking amazing.
Hey, what's going on here?
brendan schaub
The fights went so fast, they're just tossing his fights.
joe rogan
Oh, Fedor's not ready.
jamie vernon
The record is held by a 25-year-old Russian.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Powerful EPO. Yeah.
brendan schaub
1128. I can't trust anything they do right now.
joe rogan
After Icarus, man?
Yeah.
After Icarus, you're like, wait, what?
brendan schaub
I hit Russian, I assume.
eddie bravo
You can't trust them?
I mean, aren't all countries doing the same shit?
joe rogan
For sure.
For sure.
100%.
100%.
brendan schaub
They just got busted.
Once you watch Icarus, they're like, oh, man.
I saw it.
joe rogan
Well, even when Zach was talking to me about the testing, when Zach was talking to me about testing for these things, he was kind of letting on that one of the things that's different is the culture of the guys that run 100 miles.
Like, it's not in the culture.
Whereas, like, in the cycling culture, it's a big part of the culture.
Like, everybody does it.
But that ultramarathon world is a brain world.
That's a world of, like, how much can you take?
Like, you can physically do it.
They're not doing anything crazy physically like Usain Bolt.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or someone who can just...
brendan schaub
They're not gifted genetically.
joe rogan
Right.
But they're brains.
They're all small though, right?
brendan schaub
I would love to do that.
joe rogan
Yep.
unidentified
Another sub.
joe rogan
Another fucking sub!
brendan schaub
God damn.
joe rogan
Beautiful art bar.
brendan schaub
It's a seminar of jiu-jitsu.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
It's a jiu-jitsu seminar.
Dylan's right.
brendan schaub
High level jiu-jitsu tonight so far.
joe rogan
Very nice.
brendan schaub
He has hairline's out too.
joe rogan
What were we just saying?
brendan schaub
Oh, I was saying those guys are small, though.
Genetically, they're not like freaks.
I wish I could do it, but I'm just too goddamn big.
It's a shame.
joe rogan
Well, you'd have to lose weight, for sure.
You'd have to dry yourself out.
It's too hard.
brendan schaub
I love it that much.
joe rogan
Even when Cam, when he does the big ones, like when he did the Moab 240, he got down to 160, 165 I think.
brendan schaub
Damn, he's a big dude.
joe rogan
He usually weighs about 185. He might have got to 160. He might have actually got right below 160. But he's so hardcore, you know how he did it?
He just worked out, burned 4,000 calories, ate 3,000.
brendan schaub
I wish they would show that again, but the way he set that arm bar up, remember the teepee where you're crossing your ankles and you extend your legs instead of leg curl them?
eddie bravo
Well, he extended them and put everything in a right angle and then he hit the arm bar in there.
brendan schaub
Dude, he has a sick ass tattoo too.
That's some Game of Thrones shit.
joe rogan
Do you know what I've been watching?
Vikings.
brendan schaub
I can't get into Vikings.
joe rogan
Dude, it's a good goddamn show.
You gotta get four episodes in.
brendan schaub
Did you watch Westworld?
No, I haven't watched it.
I heard Westworld gets too complicated now.
joe rogan
I was lost.
eddie bravo
That's what I heard.
brendan schaub
I saw first episode.
eddie bravo
I'm like, shit.
unidentified
What's going on?
joe rogan
Did you guys refresh any of the old ones before you started the new one?
Because it's been a while.
eddie bravo
The preview is like three minutes long.
They kind of give you a good background of it.
I never got into...
brendan schaub
The opening is all the robots?
joe rogan
Don't tell me anything.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Don't tell me.
How dare you?
brendan schaub
You'll find out right away.
I'm just waiting for Game of Thrones.
joe rogan
Spoiler alert.
brendan schaub
Were you confused?
joe rogan
Don't get confusing.
unidentified
The first season was very confusing also.
It took a while to figure out.
brendan schaub
They're saying now what season are they in now?
Three?
unidentified
Second.
brendan schaub
Second, they're saying it's so confusing, they're losing subscribers, like ratings are just fucking...
joe rogan
But how do they know?
It's one episode.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's just one episode.
brendan schaub
I just read that, bro.
It's the same thing with...
You know what?
joe rogan
I think people just write shit like that just to be assholes.
I think today, yeah, I think there's...
brendan schaub
Or maybe the writer's confused, so like everyone's confused.
joe rogan
You talked about it.
See how you talked about it?
brendan schaub
Correct.
Not validated.
joe rogan
You talked about it because it's a thing that you want to hear and go, oh man, look what's going on over there.
unidentified
No, I don't care.
joe rogan
It's too complicated.
brendan schaub
I like Wes.
joe rogan
Oh, I heard they're losing subscribers.
brendan schaub
Maybe.
eddie bravo
Why are you doing a hater?
joe rogan
So that's like, if you're going to sell magazines or an article and you want to appeal to that mindset that we were just talking about earlier, that's what you would write.
brendan schaub
You're right.
But I'm saying, that last thing I read was that on Westworld.
I don't watch Westworld.
People dig it.
joe rogan
You never watched it?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
You've got to start from scratch.
I'm telling you, it's a good show.
brendan schaub
I know.
People love it, man.
joe rogan
You can't do it?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
You seem like you're never going to do it.
I'm talking to you right now.
You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
I was the same way with Game of Thrones, but then you guys talked me into it.
That's my favorite show of all time.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, dude.
brendan schaub
Same thing.
joe rogan
Get season one of Vikings.
These dudes fuck people up.
It's fun.
brendan schaub
It's on History Channel.
joe rogan
And it's good acting, too, man.
What's the premise?
It's basically a historical reenactment of the Viking days.
brendan schaub
Based on a true story?
joe rogan
Yeah, Ragnar Lothbrok, who was a real Viking apparently.
unidentified
Oh, real shit.
joe rogan
If you think all that's real, he had to be surprised.
Listen to me, man.
They wrote down every word they said all throughout the day his whole life.
So they got it.
brendan schaub
So it's there.
So he buys it.
He fucking buys it.
joe rogan
Who the fuck are you going to even get that can read Viking?
You know, who knows what the guy said and did.
But it's a really well-made show.
The acting is fucking amazing.
brendan schaub
What season are they on?
joe rogan
I think they have five seasons.
brendan schaub
What are they trying to do?
They're just trying to go from town to town?
joe rogan
Dude, I don't want to fuck it up, but it's based on real sieges that they did when they attacked Paris.
There's no spoilers.
brendan schaub
It's history.
joe rogan
They attacked England.
They attacked Wessex.
They killed a fuckload of people.
They showed up on boats and just jumped out with axes and just started fucking up villages.
It's based on that.
brendan schaub
Some barbaric shit.
joe rogan
But it's really well done, man.
I was skeptical.
I never heard anything about it.
And someone was saying, you've got to watch Vikings.
brendan schaub
Netflix or Hulu?
joe rogan
No, I got it on Apple.
It's probably on Netflix.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
It's a History Channel show.
joe rogan
It was a History Channel show.
I just subscribed to it on iTunes.
I got that Apple, what is it, iHome, what is that shit called?
Apple TV. Yeah.
brendan schaub
I heard Frontier's good, too.
It's about the fur trading business.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
brendan schaub
With your boy...
joe rogan
Jason Momoa?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Heard it's really good, too.
unidentified
Hmm.
brendan schaub
Interesting.
I don't watch any of them.
joe rogan
Vikings, though.
I'm hooked.
I'm hooked.
I just finished season three.
brendan schaub
Damn, you're into it.
joe rogan
It's fucking good, man.
It's a good show.
It's one of those underrated shows that you're like, how do I not know about this one?
brendan schaub
I've heard about them, just not Vikings or, like, whatever.
joe rogan
I love that shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you do like that shit.
joe rogan
I love that shit.
brendan schaub
I watch Teen Mom, guys.
eddie bravo
Did you guys watch Wild Wild Country?
That's good.
joe rogan
No, I'm scared.
I'm scared to watch that.
eddie bravo
Wild Wild Country.
brendan schaub
It's a docu-series.
joe rogan
It's on that guy, the sex cult guy, right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's more of like an Indian dude.
His name is, he has like three different names, but his religion was half Buddhist, half capitalist.
brendan schaub
I'm in.
I'm in.
unidentified
So you could be spiritual and live in luxury too.
eddie bravo
Yes.
Yeah, he could do both.
joe rogan
I'm in.
eddie bravo
He says, I believe in luxury.
brendan schaub
I believe we all should live in luxury.
But if you can't live in luxury, I'm going to live in luxury myself.
Is he a bad guy?
eddie bravo
That guy right there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
eddie bravo
He's super pimped out.
brendan schaub
He dyed his beard, mint green?
eddie bravo
So what happens is they get kicked out of India, so he has all these rich followers, and they built a city in Oregon.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
eddie bravo
In the middle of nowhere, they built this gigantic city in Oregon in the 80s, and all these people from all over the world ended up moving there, and the surrounding towns, just like old white people, they go to war.
brendan schaub
And that's what the documentary's about.
It's pretty awesome.
eddie bravo
It's awesome.
brendan schaub
Was he having sex with everyone or what, man?
eddie bravo
It isn't about that.
brendan schaub
I'm not really into it.
eddie bravo
It's not about that.
It's about him starting a new city with tens of thousands of people in the middle of Oregon.
And they got all these old white people out there going, what the fuck is going on?
joe rogan
So it wasn't about a sex cult?
eddie bravo
They believed in free sex and all that stuff.
joe rogan
Of course.
brendan schaub
But it wasn't.
joe rogan
Who doesn't?
eddie bravo
They're not focusing on that.
It's more about...
They had the finances to literally build a high-level city in the middle of nowhere.
joe rogan
And when did this all go down?
eddie bravo
In the 80s.
joe rogan
Okay, I'm gonna watch it.
I'm gonna watch it.
I can't watch it this weekend.
eddie bravo
It's really good.
It's really good, man.
brendan schaub
You won't regret that one.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
brendan schaub
The cult leaders are always charismatic and they're always trying to fuck everyone.
joe rogan
Why else would you start a cult?
brendan schaub
Why else?
joe rogan
What, you just want everybody to listen to you?
brendan schaub
No.
I believe in love and screw.
joe rogan
And then you want their pussy.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
Every time.
joe rogan
Cult of personality.
And the type of person that would want to have all those people.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to move to Oregon.
We found a spot.
brendan schaub
Yes, exactly.
eddie bravo
That's exactly what it was.
A bunch of white people from all over the world, but they were rich.
joe rogan
I know someone whose family was involved in that.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Do they say good things about it?
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
It's interesting to see how it all comes crashing down, though.
That's the interesting part.
It's like, how does it come crashing down?
Because it doesn't exist.
joe rogan
I don't know what's going on with it.
This is a friend of mine's ex-girlfriend from like 20 plus years ago.
She grew up in that.
brendan schaub
In that one in Oregon?
joe rogan
I think it's that one.
I'm pretty sure it's that one.
I'd have to ask him.
I don't know how I'd bring that up.
brendan schaub
Really?
You can't just text him?
joe rogan
Yeah, I can.
brendan schaub
Hey, bro, watching this doc.
Wasn't your old girlfriend in this?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine that man.
Imagine like you being in one of them cults and like being like 10 years old and like looking around going, um, what is going on?
Why does the Maharaja keep fucking my mom?
Like what's happening here?
brendan schaub
You're not gonna grow up normal.
Yeah, you'd be pretty damaged.
joe rogan
Mom, what are you doing?
Well, the sacred one brings to me blessings.
brendan schaub
Dude, he had all these Rolls Royces in the middle of Eastern Oregon.
eddie bravo
He would just...
What?
He had multiple, like endless Rolls Royces.
brendan schaub
Ball one.
I believe in luxury.
And then the line is, if I can't manage to make everybody live in luxury, at least I can manage to live in luxury myself.
Just full of shit.
joe rogan
Didn't...
Didn't fucking R. Kelly get in trouble recently?
They think he's running a cult?
brendan schaub
Yeah, kind of.
He has these sex slaves, so he has one house.
eddie bravo
Kind of.
brendan schaub
Well, no, what he does is he has one house where he stays.
Then he has a next door about the house.
He has a bunch of flock of bitches in there.
And so the parents of those kids are like, he's holding them hostage.
They're sex slaves.
He's taking away their confidence when really he's just, you know, pimping.
Yeah, he's pimping, pimping, pimping.
eddie bravo
R. Kelly.
joe rogan
Part of his inner circle resign amid sex pet allegations.
Is this today?
brendan schaub
I haven't heard about the pets.
unidentified
This is last week.
This is what we were telling you about.
joe rogan
Two hope high-profile women have resigned their roles after new revelations emerged in a BBC Three documentary.
Oh, that's what we're talking about.
eddie bravo
How about that girl from Smallville?
Did you hear about that?
brendan schaub
What the fuck is going on there?
joe rogan
What in the fuck?
eddie bravo
Like, she's trying to recruit actresses to be in the sex cult.
joe rogan
When did she do all this?
When did she do all this?
Is this from the past?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Yeah, I think it was from the past a little bit.
But also, did she go to prison for that?
Yeah, she was trying to get Emma Watson to join or something like that.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
brendan schaub
This is just stuff that's coming on the mainstream media.
Maybe it's all bullshit.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Well, she's going to prison, though, yeah.
joe rogan
Why would she do that?
eddie bravo
They would have...
They would have parties, this thing that she was involved in, at Richard Branson's Island.
joe rogan
Look at this.
It says she's accused of being a leader and a prime recruiter for a sorority-esque group of young women who were manipulated into serving as slaves for male masters.
She's facing 15 years to life imprisonment on the charges of sex trafficking, conspiracy, and conspiracy to commit forced labor.
Okay, now let me ask you this.
If you run into a bunch of girls, okay, say you're this girl, and your thing is like being in a cult with one master who gets to fuck all these women, who's to say that you shouldn't be into that if you're her, right?
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
And now who's to say if she goes and talks to a bunch of other girls and talks them into having sex with this guy?
Why is that bad?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
I mean, it's not what you want your daughter to do.
It's not what you want your sister to do.
But we all know people that like getting tied up.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
We know people that like smacking each other and hitting each other and shit.
And like being sex slaves.
And like being, well, not really maybe slaves, but whatever.
People like kinky shit.
Let's just say that, right?
They like kinky shit.
Why is it that we can decide that that's too kinky?
brendan schaub
Well, because is she bringing those girls there and then they're keeping them...
joe rogan
Right, that's the question.
If that's the case, of course.
brendan schaub
It says forced labor up there, right?
If you scroll back up.
joe rogan
Right, but if you turn someone into your slave and you said, slave, you're going to clean my kitchen.
And they're like, yes, master.
And it's like part of some weird kinky shit you do.
And then after they clean your kitchen, then you mouthfuck them.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if you just decide, like, you have some weird things, but people are weird like that, right?
unidentified
I know!
joe rogan
And some people like it.
Some people like weird shit.
And then there's some people that get talked into joining a cult, and they get talked into these horrible situations.
They actually do become sex slaves.
So how do you know which is which?
How do you know, like, which is a consenting of age adult who really loves being a part of some super kinky shit?
I know.
Versus someone who's coerced into joining a sex cult and who is held against their will.
There's a line there, right?
They seem kind of similar from the outside, but there is a line.
I don't know what the fuck happened in this situation.
I literally don't know anything other than the fact that she got arrested.
brendan schaub
I know what happens.
So she would get these girls, and then they would get them naked, and she would take pictures and hold it as a ransom or blackmail if they didn't fuck the leader.
joe rogan
Oh.
brendan schaub
That got dark.
Just hit me and I remember that.
That's why she's fucked up.
joe rogan
Okay, that ain't good.
No.
But it would be interesting.
We're talking about that other guy with all the money in Oregon.
Like, if someone did that today, like some R. Kelly type guy.
I'm not saying R. Kelly's a good guy.
I'm not saying what he's doing is legal.
But what I am saying is, it is possible.
I don't think this is the case in this situation.
But just as a...
What if?
It is possible that you get together with a bunch of people who are really into that slave dominatrix type deal.
Some people are really into being dominatrixes, some people are really into being submissive, and they get together.
As long as it's men and women, we don't have a problem with it, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
As long as it's some guy who's like a CEO that hires some mistress to kick him in the balls.
brendan schaub
Stomp on his balls.
joe rogan
Stomp on him.
brendan schaub
It happens every day.
joe rogan
We're totally cool with that.
brendan schaub
How do people survive that?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brendan schaub
They just dig the pain.
Some people like getting kicked in the balls and kneed in the balls.
I don't know.
Repeatedly and as hard as you can.
joe rogan
I know.
brendan schaub
They used to come into the strip club that I used to work at and girls used to get paid to kneed in the lap dance booth.
They would just kneed the shit out of their balls.
eddie bravo
Why do you like that?
I don't get it.
Maybe that pain that feels like death to most people, it feels different to other people.
brendan schaub
That's like a rush.
eddie bravo
Can you imagine if that, when you get hit in the balls, you know that intense pain?
It's like a unique pain.
brendan schaub
It's not like getting punched in the stomach.
Yeah, it's a unique pain, but there might be people that take that unique pain and turn it into just this high.
Yeah, you're right.
It'd be real psycho.
There's people that are into it.
You could watch that shit on YouTube.
Frank had a good point when he came to Fedor, talking about his losses when he comes to the States.
He's saying how he never trains in a cage.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
Was the cage a factor in any of his losses?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Two of them.
eddie bravo
Really?
brendan schaub
Two of them.
How?
What happened?
joe rogan
The fight with Henderson.
He couldn't get out of the way.
He couldn't move.
brendan schaub
The Henderson fight, he couldn't get out of the way, and the Verdum fight.
joe rogan
Maybe.
brendan schaub
The Henderson fight, he had him side control.
joe rogan
The ring is a more fluid thing.
That's right.
The Henderson fight, he had him inside control and Henderson popped out of it.
eddie bravo
And underhooked him, popped out with the underhook.
brendan schaub
He wasn't careful with the underhook.
eddie bravo
He had him side control.
If you don't have that underhook and the guy on the bottom shoots the underhook, you can get the dogfight from side control.
You don't even need quarter guard or half guard.
brendan schaub
But if I'm Fedor, that's like a tennis player only playing on grass when he's going to play on clay.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you doing?
brendan schaub
It's 2018. Can you not find a goddamn cage in Russia?
joe rogan
Well, there was times where he didn't want to fight anymore.
So the question is, is he fighting now because of money?
Is he fighting now because he doesn't know what else to do?
Or is he fighting now because he's got a reignited feeling about competition and he likes it again?
brendan schaub
Dude, go work security for Putin.
Get paid, bro.
They're boys.
unidentified
No shit.
joe rogan
That's a good...
eddie bravo
That's a good call.
joe rogan
That's a good call.
brendan schaub
He's your right-hand man?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's gonna fuck with Fedor and Russia.
joe rogan
I mean, that would be...
I mean, he's gotta be a hero in Russia.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
Did you think we were going to war with Russia?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
With those Syria strikes?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
You never thought so?
Not even for a second?
joe rogan
No, I didn't think we were going to war with Russia.
brendan schaub
Everybody thought.
joe rogan
Everybody thought that.
I'm scared any time bombs drop, though.
Anytime bombs drop, you're opening up the possibility of bombs dropping back.
This is like, you know, I mean, even if what happened, what the people on the other side that you're dropping the bombs on deserve it, it's still like, holy shit, we're in a fight.
You know?
Anytime that happens, if you're not legitimately concerned that horrible things come out of it, but the idea of us going to war with Russia, I'm like, probably not.
Fuck, man.
brendan schaub
It was crazy.
I was in New York for that.
I thought, holy shit.
joe rogan
I don't know what is going on when it comes to foreign policy.
I would be a joke if I pretended, which I have many times in my life.
You don't know.
I mean, who the fuck knows what's happening with Russia or with China?
I've been talking about this Huawei thing.
Huawei is a big-time cell phone or electronics company in Japan, or in China, rather.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
And the State Department has recently recommended you don't buy Huawei products, and that they might be bad actors and spying on the people that own their phones.
So they canceled a deal with Huawei to be in AT&T and Verizon and all these other cell phone providers here in the United States, and they literally issued a warning.
I was like, I've never heard of that before.
And then there was something about some sort of hacking that they think they did.
They're going to take them to court and prosecute them for something they did with Iran.
This is another thing about it.
But then I've heard people online say that they're suspicious that what this is is trying to squash China from entering into the electronics market.
It's like the top three people in cell phones are Apple, Samsung, and Huawei is number three worldwide.
brendan schaub
It's a threat.
joe rogan
To stop Huawei in America would be like an economic thing because they're worried about China increasing the amount of money they have.
brendan schaub
Who can you believe?
I don't know.
But you know, if you're interested in following QAnon, a lot of people analyze his drops, but there's a YouTube channel called Just Informed.
Just Informed something.
Just Informed, but he breaks it down every day.
He talks about all that stuff.
joe rogan
It's all interesting because you've got to know that if a company is that big, and here's the thing, the super dorks, like Jamie and I have been going back and forth about this, because the super dorks online, I say that with all due respect, the dudes who really understand cell phones, they're calling bullshit.
Because if they were spying on you, these guys who develop apps and who understand phones, these super hacker type dudes...
They'd be able to find the code.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
They'd be like, this shit's spying on you.
It's listening to you.
Here's the code.
This is what it's doing.
Microphone set to one, set it to zero.
brendan schaub
I've heard as good as the Russian hackers are wherever in the world, the best are in America.
Whatever they can do, we can find.
joe rogan
Best everything.
brendan schaub
That's what they say.
joe rogan
Right, son?
brendan schaub
No matter what the fuck it is.
unidentified
America.
joe rogan
We're best at sucking dick.
unidentified
America.
joe rogan
Dropping bombs.
brendan schaub
America.
joe rogan
Eating steak.
brendan schaub
America.
joe rogan
Drinking beer.
brendan schaub
America.
joe rogan
Frank Mir.
Let's get it going on, Frank Mir!
brendan schaub
USA! USA! USA! Just Informed Talk is the YouTube channel that breaks down QAnon if you're interested.
It's really good.
It's very interesting.
Any predictions for this fight?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Man, I think they're both at very similar places in their career, which is one of the reasons why this fight is interesting.
brendan schaub
Frank's been out for a hot minute.
Sometimes when you get in there and you've had long layoffs, you say, fuck, and throw caution to the wind, so this could be super quick.
joe rogan
Why did Frank get released from the UFC? What happened?
Do we know?
eddie bravo
Didn't he do something...
joe rogan
Did he test positive?
brendan schaub
He test positive his last one.
joe rogan
How long ago was that?
brendan schaub
That was a while ago.
eddie bravo
Remember he got fired for...
brendan schaub
He got...
joe rogan
As a commentator.
eddie bravo
Yeah, as a commentator.
joe rogan
He wanted to kill Brock Lesnar.
Yes.
Literally kill him.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Fair enough.
joe rogan
He was a really good commentator.
brendan schaub
Great commentator.
joe rogan
He was really good.
brendan schaub
He's commenting now for ACB. What's ACB? Like that Russian league.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's the head commentator of ACB. Oh, interesting.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
But remember Frank's last fight, he got knocked out by Mark Hunt, and then they let him go.
joe rogan
Remember when he knocked out Todd Duffy, though?
brendan schaub
Woo!
joe rogan
That was crazy.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
joe rogan
Frank Mir still showed in that fight against a dangerous guy like Duffy.
brendan schaub
Frank's falling in love with boxing, man.
I hate hearing that.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, he's a smart dude.
You've got to think his jiu-jitsu is still on point.
brendan schaub
He's so smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very smart.
Very well read.
brendan schaub
Him and Josh Barnett, I think, are the two smartest heavyweights that I've ever met.
joe rogan
That's a good call.
Josh Barnett's very smart.
brendan schaub
Very cerebral.
That was a good fight.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Josh Barnett and Mir?
I remember Josh Burnett had him against the fence.
He had great head position and forearm position.
Josh whooped his ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
brendan schaub
It's a great fight for Josh Burnett.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Just a great fight overall.
joe rogan
It was a five-rounder, wasn't it?
I believe it was five rounds.
brendan schaub
No, I think it ended pretty quick.
Josh whooped his ass.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm thinking of another fight.
brendan schaub
Josh beat his ass.
joe rogan
Josh beat his ass and knocked him out with a knee, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Josh fucked him up.
joe rogan
He fucked him up.
I'm thinking of another fight where Josh went five hard rounds.
brendan schaub
Was it Against D.C. with a broken hand?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He beat somebody in a very impressive fight.
Oh, it was Roy.
It was Big Country.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, he took him down.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
brendan schaub
He kept taking him down.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was it.
That was a long fight.
brendan schaub
He beat the shit out of Roy.
joe rogan
He beat the shit out of Roy, and it was a long fight, right?
Wasn't it like a five-rounder?
unidentified
Yeah, it was.
brendan schaub
I don't know if it was five rounds.
It was three rounds of an ass-whooping, though.
joe rogan
See if you find that, Jamie.
brendan schaub
Barnab is a monster.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
He's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
But him and Frank are the most cerebral, I think, to ever fight.
joe rogan
That's why Travis Brown's elbows are so fucking impressive, that he put him out.
He put Josh out.
brendan schaub
That's weird when Josh rushed him, because he saw Gonzaga get stopped like that, and he did the same thing.
joe rogan
I think he got clipped with a punch before he rushed him.
brendan schaub
Oh, and then he went down.
joe rogan
I think, if I remember correctly, I don't remember correctly, but I remember those fucking elbows.
To this day, we call that position the Travis Brown.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Is he done?
unidentified
Josh and who?
Sorry.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Josh Barnett and Roy Nelson.
Yeah, it was a five-round fight.
Yeah, a five-round.
brendan schaub
Title fight?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I'm sorry, not title fight.
joe rogan
Main event.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, it was a main event.
Yeah, that's right.
It was overseas.
Yeah, it was a beating, man.
It was a beating.
I was super impressed with his cardio.
brendan schaub
And he would pass Roy's guard.
joe rogan
Dude, Frank does not look fat.
brendan schaub
Frank's jacked, man.
joe rogan
I saw a photo.
It must have been from in the past where he was heavy.
Maybe while they were setting this fight up.
Because looking at him now, he looks very fit.
brendan schaub
He looks great.
joe rogan
He looks very fit.
brendan schaub
He was in the studio with me.
I told him, I said, man, you look shredded.
He's like, I'm ready to go.
joe rogan
Wow.
I'm impressed.
He does look very fit.
brendan schaub
He looks great.
joe rogan
So he must have been heavy when he started camp?
Super heavy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was really heavy.
He didn't fight for a little bit, so he's been commentating, flying to Russia and shit.
joe rogan
Very interesting here.
Here we go.
This is only three rounds.
They don't do five-round main events.
unidentified
Nope.
brendan schaub
Only title fights.
joe rogan
Here we go.
What do you think about that?
I kind of agree with that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm not mad at it.
I like five rounds.
eddie bravo
Three rounds, it goes too quick.
brendan schaub
I like five rounds for the smaller weight classes.
joe rogan
It's a good point.
My thing would be, man, the five-round fights are beatings, man.
I mean, you really...
eddie bravo
Oh, it's over.
joe rogan
Oh, Frank Neer clipped him quick.
eddie bravo
It's over.
joe rogan
Oh, Fano was in trouble.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's surviving now.
eddie bravo
Wow.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
Oh, he clipped Frank!
eddie bravo
He didn't have the underhook right there.
brendan schaub
Again, that's why Frank stood up.
They're just throwing.
joe rogan
Nice knees to the body.
brendan schaub
They're just throwing.
joe rogan
Oh!
brendan schaub
Holy shit!
Oh, wow, this is going to be a quick one.
I thought it was going to be a decision.
joe rogan
It's like Hagler Hearns.
This is phenomenal.
brendan schaub
If someone finishes it.
joe rogan
Oh!
Oh, shit!
Oh, shit!
Oh, he clipped him!
brendan schaub
It's over.
joe rogan
That's it!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
What a war!
eddie bravo
Damn!
unidentified
Woo!
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
unidentified
Wow!
brendan schaub
Hey, you ready for this?
Fedor Chael Sonnen's next.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
Let that sink in.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's been crazy.
brendan schaub
That's actually fun.
That's fucking good.
joe rogan
When is that gonna happen?
Wow, Frank Mears.
You know, and he almost had him.
brendan schaub
He almost had him.
joe rogan
Frank almost had him.
brendan schaub
What a great throw.
joe rogan
That is a great, beautiful throw.
brendan schaub
Great fucking hip toss, huh?
joe rogan
That was beautiful.
eddie bravo
That bought him some time.
brendan schaub
Dude.
Fedor Chael Sonnen.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
When was the last time Fedor won?
brendan schaub
Mel Donato, but he really lost in Russia.
joe rogan
He really lost.
Yeah.
He got hurt in that fight.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that was a crazy fight.
I forgot about that fight.
joe rogan
I agree he lost that fight.
He won it, but he lost it.
eddie bravo
That was in Russia, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
Let's take that one out of the equation.
brendan schaub
Ishii?
joe rogan
Damn, that's right.
Satoshi Ishii was his last fight, his retirement fight, in his last run, and then he decided to come back after that.
brendan schaub
Here it is.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Boy, he's all wild and loose, huh?
brendan schaub
Boom!
joe rogan
Wait, the left.
brendan schaub
Both hands down.
joe rogan
Damn.
This must be...
Oh, right there.
The left hand, right on the chin.
Oh, boom.
Boom.
unidentified
He's out.
brendan schaub
He's a crazy hard shot.
joe rogan
Just swinging.
They're swinging wild, man.
brendan schaub
They're just going.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
I feel like he caught him earlier than that, too.
Just that was the big one.
The one that really hurt him.
Perfect stoppage.
Goddamn.
There it is.
unidentified
Boom.
brendan schaub
It was the left.
joe rogan
Perfect left hand.
That was nice.
It's crazy.
This is Fedor's first win in Take Out the Maldonado fight.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
How many years then?
How many years?
brendan schaub
It's been a rough go for my man.
joe rogan
When was Ishii?
He beat Singh Jadip.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's right.
That bullshit fight.
My brain goes, no.
joe rogan
That was when?
15?
jamie vernon
New Year's Eve 2015. He also beat Pedro Hizzo on January 21st, 2012. That was after the Ishii fight.
joe rogan
2012, really.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The Pedro Hizzo fight was a crazy knockout, man.
brendan schaub
That must have been in Europe somewhere, right?
joe rogan
He threw a leg kick and then faked a leg kick and landed a punch.
Fedor started out against, I mean, a guy...
Think about who's got better leg kicks than Pedro Hizzo.
brendan schaub
Yep, M1. It was a Russian fight.
joe rogan
It was a ruthless knockout, man.
See if you can find out.
brendan schaub
He's won one, two, three.
joe rogan
Jamie, pull up Pedro Hizzo versus Fedor.
brendan schaub
Do you notice anything on Fedor's record there?
So he went on that five-fight winning streak.
None of it's in the States.
Before that, three losses in the States.
Comes back to the States, loses.
Is this his first win in the States?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Maybe Brett Rogers was his first?
joe rogan
Look at this.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
Boom.
He threw a leg kick, and before that...
Was this the whole fight or just a highlight?
I think it edited it real quick.
They edited it?
unidentified
Yeah, the video.
joe rogan
See, it jumps from 4.30 to...
brendan schaub
Jesus, he's still explosive.
joe rogan
He hit him with a leg kick first, and then he faked the leg kick and came in with that punch.
He came in with that right hand and then left hook behind it.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
He's still explosive, man.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
Tonight he was explosive.
Look, he's still fucking Fedor.
He's still Fedor.
He's a legend.
For sure.
brendan schaub
But you tap him in the jaw, and he'll go down like a regular guy.
joe rogan
He is a regular guy in that regard now.
All the fights that he's had, all the wars, the fact that he's in his late 30s, right?
41. He's 41?
brendan schaub
I'll tell you a fight I'd love to see that's never happening, so it's stupid for me to say it.
Francis Ngann and Fedor.
joe rogan
Oh my god, why would you want to see that?
brendan schaub
Because they both just slang them thangs.
joe rogan
How do you think that fight would go?
brendan schaub
I think Francis knocks his head into Russia.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Or Brock Lesnar Fedor.
joe rogan
That's a better fight.
That's a better fight.
If I had a Willy Wonka golden ticket, I gave it to you.
And I gave it to you.
I would say Brock Lesnar versus who?
Who?
brendan schaub
Francis Singano.
unidentified
And the posters, just old school pride.
brendan schaub
It'd be so sick.
joe rogan
I like that.
I like that a lot.
brendan schaub
Because think about it, Brock can win if he lands a takedown, but good luck not getting clipped coming in.
Such a dynamic fight.
joe rogan
It's nice seeing Fedor win, man, I gotta say.
I mean, I love Frank Mir.
I'm a Frank Mir fan.
And somebody had a win.
Dude, Chael Fedor!
I like it.
I like that a lot.
brendan schaub
Is that the biggest fight in Bellator history?
joe rogan
It's a very good fight, man.
It's a very good fight.
And Chael's gonna talk some mad shit.
brendan schaub
Fedor doesn't sell fights anymore.
He's just off his name.
That's what Frank was saying.
He goes, dude, the mediator, I have to do everything.
Fedor refuses to do interviews now.
He doesn't even do interviews.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I get it.
He doesn't speak English.
brendan schaub
They all ask him some questions.
joe rogan
Yeah, figure it out, motherfucker.
brendan schaub
But the new fans are like, who?
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
Well, they know him now.
See, I think even amongst the new fans, this is like, I mean, he's essentially like a Reggie Jackson type character.
If you know baseball, you know who Reggie Jackson is.
Even if you don't know a lot about him, you know who Reggie Jackson is.
brendan schaub
But if you're new to the sport, you're like, this guy's the best of all time seeing this stuff.
But they don't realize his pride days.
joe rogan
Well, you've got to go back and watch the first Noguera fight.
Or the Crow Cop fight.
Or, you know, even the Fujita fight when he got clipped.
The Kevin Randall one's a great one.
Suplex, and then just a few moments later catches his arm.
brendan schaub
Nasty.
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Very, very, very interesting.
brendan schaub
She's been translating for Fedor for 20 years.
Forever.
He just flies her in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Maybe that's his girl.
joe rogan
She goes out back.
She puts a Make America Great Again hat on.
They catch her in Fedor's locker room afterwards.
She's wearing the MAGA hat.
If I was a manager, I would make everybody in the camp wear it just for the press.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
I'd be like, put it on, man.
He's the President of the United States.
What's the fucking problem?
We're wearing his hat.
unidentified
He's hilarious.
brendan schaub
What about Kanye?
He's crazy.
joe rogan
Kanye wearing it.
But I mean, come on, man.
How good would that be if all of Fedor's camp, including Fedor, had those red MAGA hats on?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That shit would be hilarious.
brendan schaub
It would go viral so bad.
joe rogan
If they were trolling.
brendan schaub
It'd be great.
joe rogan
Tell you what, man, your boy Mitrione, I mean, that's a giant win for him.
That was a giant win when he KO'd Fedor.
brendan schaub
Well, now Matt fights the winner of Bader, King Mo.
joe rogan
That's a tough fight.
brendan schaub
Tough fight.
joe rogan
It's a tough fight.
brendan schaub
Super tough fight for Matt.
joe rogan
Matt, you know, if he's got an issue at all, it's not in his footwork or his knockout power, his movement, it's if the fight goes to the ground.
brendan schaub
Well, he's wrestling.
unidentified
Here we go.
joe rogan
I want to hear what Chael has to say.
Crank this shit up, Jamie.
brendan schaub
This can be great.
Look at it.
unidentified
I hate more than being right here in Chicago, is being in this ring with you, and I assure you the next time you'll be in the ring, it will not be for long.
brendan schaub
His trash talking is so old school.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very pro-wrestly.
brendan schaub
It's just not very good.
How do you not throw the Russian thing in his face?
joe rogan
Damn, Chilson is pretty fucking big.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Fedor's a small dude.
As far as the heavyweight goes.
joe rogan
Yeah, very interesting.
brendan schaub
God, I thought...
You know what?
I expect more, Chell.
I thought he'd be like, the one thing I hate more than being in this cage with you, it's a Russian in this cage.
America!
They toss it on to Trump.
U.S.A. Yes!
joe rogan
He pulls out a Mega America Great Again hat.
When is a fighter going to come out with a...
I mean, has there ever been a time where you get more shit for liking the president?
Never.
Never.
Not even close.
Not even close.
I mean, at the very least, even if you didn't want him to win, now that he's the president, would you not want him to succeed?
If he succeeds, it means we succeed.
You want everything to be a catastrophic failure because your guy didn't win?
Or do you want him to get better at the job and be really good at what he does and be the best president that he can be and pull a bunch of shit off?
brendan schaub
Look what he did with North Korea.
eddie bravo
What's up with that?
brendan schaub
Maybe he did.
joe rogan
I mean, maybe he was a part of it.
eddie bravo
With both North Korea and South Korea giving Donald Trump all the credit.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
That's true.
brendan schaub
That's amazing.
eddie bravo
They said it on CNN even.
joe rogan
That alone shows you that his unorthodox style, that you might be terrible if you're married to him, or terrible if you're doing business with him, or terrible if you're his lawyer, or terrible, whatever.
But that unorthodox style might have value to it, but no one wants that value because they don't want him to win.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It's a fucking...
It's a weird time.
It's strange.
It's almost like you're rooting against America because you feel so strongly about the president.
brendan schaub
To your point, would you rather have him out or you want the economy better?
What the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
Here's the other thing.
You want Mike Pence to be president?
Are you sure?
You don't know what you're saying.
That is not a smart choice.
That's not what you voted for.
It's not what you want.
What you should want...
Even if you don't like Donald Trump, what you should want is that he does a great fucking job.
He turns the economy around.
He goes after child pedophiles.
He goes after, like, whatever.
Whatever.
Fill in the blanks.
Whatever thing you would like him to do.
Even if he talks crazy shit about...
And he gets on Fox and Friends and says a bunch of nutty shit...
Wouldn't you still want that guy to do the best job running the country?
This is where things get weird because I think most people say no.
I think if they say yes, they're lying.
They want him to fail.
They want him to be the worst ever.
unidentified
Get impeached.
joe rogan
That's what they want.
That's what they want.
brendan schaub
That's a flaw.
joe rogan
That's a crazy way of thinking.
brendan schaub
It's not the way to look at it.
joe rogan
Look, I didn't vote for Donald Trump, but I want him to do great.
Because he's the fucking president.
Like, either someone else comes along that's better, and wins, and takes over, or why would I want everything to go bad?
Even if I didn't vote for him.
brendan schaub
That's so retarded.
joe rogan
Everybody, if you had a doctor, this is a good example.
Maybe it sucks.
But if you had a doctor, and the doctor was a dickhead, the doctor's fucking annoying, but he had to fix your knee.
But you know he's the best at fixing knees.
You're like, this guy's a dickhead, I hope he fucks my knee up.
brendan schaub
That's how retarded people are.
joe rogan
You would never say that.
brendan schaub
It's only hurting you.
joe rogan
He's the only guy who can do this operation.
Brandon, you gotta listen to me.
I know the guy's an asshole.
Let him operate on your knee.
He's gonna do a great job.
He's gonna talk shit.
He's gonna try to fuck your mom.
unidentified
But he's gonna do a great job fixing your knee.
brendan schaub
There's a video.
unidentified
I mean...
brendan schaub
Get it done.
eddie bravo
People that hate Trump accuse him of being racist.
brendan schaub
And there's a video of Ice Cube, 50 Cent, Shaquille O'Neal, like five or six celebrities, and now Kanye West, that don't think he's racist.
They go, Donald Trump is badass.
eddie bravo
He tells it like it is.
joe rogan
The question is, when he talked about Mexicans on the campaign trail, was he playing to people that are white supremacists?
Does he understand that he has a base in those people?
And does he defend that base?
That was about Charlottesville, too.
eddie bravo
Correct.
joe rogan
Because he was saying that on both sides, there's problems on both sides.
Both made mistakes.
The protesters and the KKK. Sometimes, and he was right, there was problems on both sides, but they were there because of a white supremacy rally, and the most important point is that that alone is a ridiculous way to think, and that as Americans, we can't tolerate someone who only likes people that come from the same part of the world as them, or people that only have the same color skin as them, or the white race, or the pure race, because that's stupid.
It doesn't even fit up with what we know about IQ standards.
If we really wanted the master race, we would be all trying to be Asian.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Okay?
Because they dominate in IQ to the point where they're suing Harvard right now.
There's an Asian-American group that's suing Harvard because the standards for Asians to enter Harvard are more stringent than even white people.
They're harder because they're better because they get in more because their brains work better than yours.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
But see, this is not a popular narrative.
People don't talk about this.
But no one's saying that.
So if you're out there saying that the white race is superior, you're not even paying attention to the facts.
eddie bravo
Does Trump say that?
joe rogan
No, definitely not.
brendan schaub
White supremacists do.
joe rogan
For sure not, but the white supremacists do.
And they want to keep a clean state.
eddie bravo
The general population thinks that Trump thinks like that, too.
joe rogan
That's not true.
There's no evidence of that.
But there is evidence that he understands that he has a base, and that his base is white people.
There's a big part of it is white people that are fed up about political correctness, white people that are fed up about being said they're racist just because they're white, or black people that want to hand out.
There's a lot of racists that have welfare problems, people that are on welfare, they're taking our money, they're taking our jobs.
There's a lot of that going on, and he knows that there's a percentage of those people that I'm sure support him.
So you gotta be real careful.
brendan schaub
And they're saying he plays to that side.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But no one's saying there's any evidence that he's like that.
But he did say racist shit about Mexicans.
Right?
When he was talking about how they rape and murder.
Someone's doing the raping.
unidentified
Someone's doing the murdering.
joe rogan
The crime.
brendan schaub
Well, the crime is out of control.
joe rogan
But he's not being honest about that, okay?
So that's obvious that he's trying to win, right?
Because if he's being honest about that, what he would say is the reason why there's so much crime is because drugs are illegal.
If we made drugs legal, we could sell these drugs to these people in America that would be run by businesses instead of being run by the mob.
The demand is undeniable.
It's undeniable there's a demand for cocaine, heroin, but there's also a demand for alcohol.
There's also a demand for plenty of things that are bad for you in America.
ZR1s.
You go buy a 770 horsepower Corvette Z01 that goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds and just drink all the fucking Red Bulls you want and get on the highway and stomp the gas and you're in a spaceship.
That's crazy too.
That's all crazy.
So is doing heroin.
You probably might die more driving a ZR1 like an asshole than you would be doing coke.
brendan schaub
But you're also going to kill more people in that ZR1. You might.
joe rogan
Look, there's a lot of ways people could fuck up their life and other lives around them that are absolutely legal.
We just make this decision that once something is illegal, like drugs, and I don't think you should do coke, I don't think you should do heroin, but I don't think you should do it, though.
I don't think you should fucking drink till you're dead either.
And people are doing that every day.
We're hypocrites in that regard.
And this idea that the only reason why these people are over there raping and murdering is because they're Mexican.
That's what's racist.
unidentified
He said that?
Did he say that?
joe rogan
That's what they're saying.
It's over in Mexico.
Someone over there is doing it.
But why are they doing it?
I'll tell you why and you know why.
They're doing it because drugs are illegal.
That's how the cartel makes their money.
brendan schaub
But what do you think about the wall?
What do you think about building a wall?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
You shouldn't build a wall?
You shouldn't have secure borders?
joe rogan
What we should do is help Mexico.
We should figure out some way, and one of the best ways to help them would be make drugs legal.
That would be one of the best ways to help them.
brendan schaub
Stop the cartel.
joe rogan
Another one would recognize that Mexico is just like, how is Mexico, in terms of the amount of distance, how are they, as close as they are to us, not us, but New York is us?
You could get to Mexico in two hours, dude.
You could drive to Mexico from LA in two hours.
But that's not a country.
That ain't even us.
But we decide that Maine is us.
That shit is way the fuck over there.
These people are attached to us.
They're right there.
They're connected.
You could walk there.
unidentified
It's not outrageous to walk to Mexico.
joe rogan
They're right there.
brendan schaub
They're people.
unidentified
So what are we supposed to do?
brendan schaub
They're people.
joe rogan
Nations are ridiculous.
Nations are ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Making a one-world government?
joe rogan
No, not even a government, man.
We should have rules that we all agree on.
Our problems are when teams go against other teams.
But if we're all on the same team, then we compete against each other economically the way we do in cities.
That's why we don't have wars in cities.
We don't have city wars, right?
The reason why we have wars with other countries is because we think of each other as being on another team.
There's crime in cities, but there's crime in countries.
What we really need is to abandon this idea that we're all in these fucking tribes.
brendan schaub
And I'm not saying I support one side or the other, but when Trump was saying that, isn't a lot of the violence is from the Mexican cartels and stuff in America?
joe rogan
Some of it, yeah.
A lot of it.
brendan schaub
Salvadorians, right?
joe rogan
No, it's 100% real.
But it's propped up by drugs.
And until you address the root of what gives them money and causes the violence, we're just talking nonsense.
So the primitive way to approach it is to say, this team is going to go against that team, so we're going to put up a wall to keep that team from coming over here.
brendan schaub
That's not going to help.
joe rogan
If you want to look at the entire future of people, the entire future, it's eventually going to come to a point where there's going to be an easy way...
You know, they have these Pixel, on the Google Pixel phone, they have these earbuds that allow you to translate someone's language in real time.
So if you were talking to me in Spanish, I could hear it through these earbuds for the Google Pixel phone, the Pixel 2, and it would translate.
So I could go to Mexico, I could talk to some cat who knows Spanish, he and I could talk, and I could understand what he's saying.
It's going to come a point in time where that is way simpler and way easier.
brendan schaub
We're all the same language.
joe rogan
It's going to be all the same language.
And then it's like, why is there a war with Mexico and not a war with North Dakota?
Why am I not on the same team as someone in fucking Tijuana, which is right there?
Why am I not just like those people?
Why are we on different teams?
Says who?
Says why?
What benefit is that?
This is some old school shit that we only needed because we didn't know what the fuck people were doing because it was like Vikings.
They would show up in boats and start raping and murdering.
brendan schaub
Territory.
joe rogan
But they're not...
Doing that to the people that are in their village, right?
They're not doing that to each other.
Well, they do it because they think people are the other.
So this idea of the other and the idea of the tribe, it's an outdated idea.
It's an outdated idea that maybe it's time's not done now, but it's time is done in a hundred years or a thousand years.
The future is people just people.
It's not Germans versus the French versus the Russians versus the Italians.
That shit is retro.
It's stupid.
It's just like...
It's just like tribes of fucking ancient hominids just sneaking in when they didn't even speak languages and clubbing each other and raping each other and doing all the shit that people have done forever.
brendan schaub
Plus, California, Arizona, and Texas.
We're Mexico.
joe rogan
How about California's trying to separate into three spots?
brendan schaub
I know.
eddie bravo
Is that real?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
It's going to be on the ballot.
It's going to be on the ballot in what, 2020?
Is that what it is?
Maybe.
eddie bravo
If it wins, what happens?
There's gonna be a South, North, Central, South.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
There's gonna be LA, there's gonna be one, there's gonna be like California, and then there's gonna be like Southern California, like San Diego way, up to like, you know, like Bakersfield or some shit.
brendan schaub
It makes sense though.
If you're gonna go off the old game plan, the old map, it makes sense.
You know why it makes sense?
joe rogan
This is why it makes sense.
If you drive from LA to San Francisco, you drive through Kentucky.
I don't know how it happens.
But you drive by.
God is great signs and don't have abortions.
Here's a doctor.
Jesus loves you.
It's farmland.
It's not what you think it is.
And there's nothing wrong with Kentucky.
I'm talking about it's rural.
It's rural.
brendan schaub
It's beautiful.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But it's rural.
It's farmland.
There's a big part of California that's farms.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but isn't it the South is the one struggling and the North is killing it, right?
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
It's political, man.
brendan schaub
It's all political.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But it's not that anybody's killing it.
It's that they don't feel represented.
See, there's more people in San Francisco and in Los Angeles by far than the rest of the state.
But the state is huge.
Everybody thinks that San Francisco is Northern California.
The fuck it is.
There's hours of driving until you hit Oregon.
brendan schaub
Way more Northern.
joe rogan
How many hours does it take to drive from San Francisco to Oregon?
Four.
Is it four?
brendan schaub
I think so.
I'll say three.
joe rogan
Somewhere, I'll say a little bit more.
I'm going to say four and a half.
I'm going to say four and a half hours.
What does it say, Jamie?
brendan schaub
I'm saying four.
Sticking to four.
joe rogan
You might be right.
I'm just guessing.
brendan schaub
I like three.
joe rogan
It's a grip of space.
unidentified
Five.
joe rogan
Five hours.
See?
There's a lot of fucking space up there.
And those people are all rural.
It's like, that's where the green emerald triangle is and Humboldt and they're growing all the fucking weed.
brendan schaub
It's beautiful up there.
joe rogan
It's beautiful up there.
It's like a rainforest.
brendan schaub
I could live up there.
joe rogan
Dude, I've been to many, many parts of Northern California.
It doesn't even remotely resemble Southern California.
brendan schaub
No, hell no.
joe rogan
So these people, they don't feel represented.
LA's all goofy.
They feel like this is just some liberal, delusional hotbed.
And they also don't like a lot of the laws.
The laws in regards to wildlife management.
brendan schaub
Or the taxes.
If you live in Sacramento, why are you paying the same tax as someone that lives in Malibu?
joe rogan
Yes.
The taxes are off the charts here.
They were saying that 500,000 people this year are going to move out of California and New York because of taxes.
Just because of taxes.
brendan schaub
If you live in Oxnard, should we be paying the same tax as on a beachfront property in Alabama?
joe rogan
No fucking way.
brendan schaub
How fucked up is that?
joe rogan
No fucking way.
brendan schaub
Makes no sense.
joe rogan
But you aren't.
You're paying more if you live in Malibu.
Because you're paying more, you make more money.
So your higher percentage of your property, you know, your property's worth more.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but still, you're still paying a high fucking rate if you're in Oxnard to live in California.
joe rogan
The rate's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, you know, also it's ridiculous when you realize you don't have to pay that rate if you go other places.
Like, I know guys who've moved.
brendan schaub
What's the best date?
joe rogan
Florida is pretty good.
Florida is good if you have a business.
I know guys that have businesses that move to Florida because if they sell their business, they don't want to pay 13% to the government in California.
brendan schaub
And they can't take your home if anything happens there.
joe rogan
There's a lot of places where you don't pay state tax.
Washington, you don't pay state tax.
Nevada, you don't pay state tax.
jamie vernon
I think what I'm reading right now says this is not just a plan to split the state.
It's to split away from the United States to make it its own independent country.
joe rogan
So much for that plan.
Some wacky dude.
unidentified
I've got a Rolls Royce and I love pussy.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
I like the luxury.
That's definitely not the luxury I can have.
eddie bravo
I believe in luxury.
brendan schaub
That's not happening.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not happening.
So that's out the window.
brendan schaub
Florida Tech's the big one where the business people or people that want to save their money go.
joe rogan
But look, the United States is fascinating in a way that you could find out where the laws are best for you and you go, look, we're just going to fucking take a chance and move to Montana.
You know, you live in Montana, you're living in a place with like 3 million people instead of 30 million people.
You live in a place where you're like butted up against the fucking Yellowstone Park and looking at mountains and shit and wolves at night.
eddie bravo
Is it true that you could take the world's population and fit them all in Texas and all in their own house?
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
Is that true?
eddie bravo
That's really true?
joe rogan
Yes, true.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
Texas is gigantic.
eddie bravo
Well, but we're talking about all of China and all of Africa in Texas with everyone else?
joe rogan
There's something about- Isn't that insane?
There's something about Texas where- Is that true?
Yeah.
eddie bravo
That's true, right?
joe rogan
The amount of European countries you fit in Texas.
It's kind of crazy.
eddie bravo
It said the whole world can fit in Texas with their own house.
Everybody with their own house.
That seems unbelievable.
brendan schaub
Eight billion.
joe rogan
Yeah, eight billion people.
eddie bravo
You can put eight billion people in Texas in their own house.
Eight billion houses in Texas?
joe rogan
Well, you know, Texas is a different state, man.
It's not like any other state.
eddie bravo
Apparently, Alaska, too.
You could do the same thing in Alaska.
brendan schaub
I mean, if everyone lived in a 10x10 room, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, Alaska is the biggest, and Texas is the second biggest, right?
Isn't it?
eddie bravo
Yeah, so doesn't it seem, if that's the case...
brendan schaub
Then overpopulation is a myth.
eddie bravo
It's gotta be.
joe rogan
No, it's not a myth.
Because it's about the resources and space.
You could jam everybody in Texas, but it would be like Mad Max.
It would be fucking terrible.
eddie bravo
Still, that's Texas.
And the rest of the world is empty?
And the rest of the world is empty?
joe rogan
You'd have to grow food in the rest of the world.
And people would be sucking it out in truckloads every second.
brendan schaub
We'd be eating each other.
joe rogan
We'd be on top of each other.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
No, overpopulation is not a myth, Eddie.
Overpopulation is real.
eddie bravo
If we could put everybody in Texas, it's a myth.
brendan schaub
That's the way I look at it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Here's the thing.
First of all, it's not sustainable.
This is the problem with overpopulation.
Right now, we're okay.
If we just kept this number, the human race could survive.
The real problem is we're not keeping this number, son.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
This number is going to grow.
This number was 2 billion, whatever the fuck it was, in 1950, and it's 7 billion now.
brendan schaub
When did we figure it out?
People are having less kids, though, now.
I have so many friends in the 40s that have no kids.
eddie bravo
It's not like it was in the 50s.
brendan schaub
Not in China.
joe rogan
First world countries.
That's one of the things about the rest of the world.
They're outbreeding us.
Radically.
brendan schaub
Not in Japan.
joe rogan
There's been studies done.
eddie bravo
Every time I'm on a plane, I see emptiness in barren wasteland everywhere I go.
brendan schaub
I don't see overpopulation.
eddie bravo
I see emptiness everywhere I go.
brendan schaub
God, Eddie has a point here.
Everywhere.
eddie bravo
Where are the people at?
joe rogan
No, that's true.
When you fly over the country.
But there's places where you can't grow shit, Eddie.
You're flying over Nevada and you're looking down.
eddie bravo
You can grow shit anywhere.
You can grow shit anywhere.
joe rogan
What they did with Vegas is they tricked everybody into thinking you could live in Nevada.
Fuck that.
They made Henderson.
They made Vegas.
They basically built these places in a place they shouldn't have built places.
They had a crazy rule.
They could do whatever the fuck they want there.
eddie bravo
The mafia.
joe rogan
What's weird about Nevada is Nevada has two weird things.
One, nuclear testing.
They did a Fuckload of nuclear testing.
You see the fucking, there's a map, or a video rather, that shows you the map of the earth and it shows you all the nuclear bombs they set off in Nevada.
And you're just like, Macaulay Culkin from Home Alone by the end of the video, like, what?
eddie bravo
Do you remember those old nuclear test videos where they show like a building and then like this hurricane of nuclear energy going through it?
Everybody remembers those, right?
How did they film that?
joe rogan
They set cameras up.
How did the cameras not?
What kind of cameras are those?
Listen, they're very far away when all the shit is going down.
And the scariest thing is not those buildings blowing apart.
unidentified
They look like models.
joe rogan
They do because they got hit so hard.
The scariest thing is the ones when you see the bombs in the distance, miles away, and these guys jump up.
The shit goes over their head.
They're in these ditches.
And they jump up and run towards it.
Because they didn't know shit about radiation back then.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
So they had these soldiers practice.
The idea was that you would drop the nuclear bomb on people and then they would run towards the bomb because the people would be so fucked up and disoriented that you just take over the city.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
But meanwhile, these people are running right into radiation.
brendan schaub
Growing like three eyeballs.
How come people in Vegas aren't born with three heads?
joe rogan
It's not Vegas.
brendan schaub
Some are.
eddie bravo
But still, it's close enough.
joe rogan
Nevada's big.
Nevada's big.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but those nuclear touch sites are not that far from Vegas where they're blowing up these nuclear bombs all the time.
brendan schaub
People in Vegas should be growing fucking three dicks for the next thousand years.
joe rogan
Well, you know, there's a story about John Wayne.
That John Wayne was filming a movie.
We're going to need you on this one, Jamie.
That John Wayne was filming a movie in like the 1950s.
Whatever the fuck it was, he was doing those westerns.
And that during that time, they were in an area where they were doing tests, nuclear tests, and everybody on that movie set got cancer.
Everybody.
Say that again?
What does it say there?
The movie So Toxic It Killed John Wayne, The Tragedy of the Conqueror.
Yeah.
That was about...
Wasn't it about Genghis Khan?
eddie bravo
How do they know that movie killed them?
brendan schaub
I mean, how would they know?
eddie bravo
People were getting cancer all the time.
joe rogan
No, but I think a bunch of people got cancer.
eddie bravo
People were getting cancer from the polio vaccine.
brendan schaub
But like all of them got it.
eddie bravo
Did you know that?
Like a million people?
brendan schaub
From the vaccine?
eddie bravo
From the polio vaccine.
joe rogan
What does it say, Jamie?
I'll find them more.
I don't even know if this is a true story.
unidentified
Oh, you know that.
brendan schaub
You know that.
You've heard that.
Yes.
joe rogan
I don't know if this is a true story.
I need to get verification.
brendan schaub
I feel like Eddie's dropping some knowledge tonight.
I'm not dropping no knowledge.
I'm keeping it fun today.
I know, but it's a good point.
There's a lot of land when you're flying.
I fly non-stop.
I think the same thing.
eddie bravo
Overpopulation.
Pollution.
joe rogan
The thing is, you'd have to turn all that shit into farmland to feed all those people.
unidentified
Easily.
That's easy.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Just dirt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It's just dirt.
joe rogan
There's definitely room.
The question is for how long and how many people can you feed off that dirt?
Like, if you're in Nevada, how many farms are in Nevada?
What does it say?
Scroll up.
Conquer filmed on a nuclear test site.
brendan schaub
Good move.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Howard Hughes, the director, and Bill Powell knew of the dangers and had Assurances from the Atomic Energy Commission that it was safe, but apparently, even John Wayne supposedly brought a Geiger's.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
This might have been too long ago to get accurate information.
brendan schaub
John Wayne played Genghis Khan.
Yellow face.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
brendan schaub
Super racist.
joe rogan
It's so terrible.
unidentified
You watch it and he's like, I'm Genghis Khan.
joe rogan
I'm getting his gun.
Get my horse over here and I'm about to take over the Chinese!
brendan schaub
Dude, I hate old movies, man.
eddie bravo
I can't watch any of them.
unidentified
I don't watch any fucking old movies.
joe rogan
Let's do a fight companion for John Wayne's Genghis Khan.
brendan schaub
Some people are into it.
When people say Gone in the Wind's the best move of all time, fuck!
What did you say, Jamie?
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Hold on.
What does it say, Jamie?
jamie vernon
A lot of people got cancer on the set.
joe rogan
Wow.
How many people?
jamie vernon
90 of the 220-person crew did.
46 of those people died.
Some of the main actors apparently all died of cancer within 25 years of the movie coming out.
eddie bravo
You might be able to say that about any movie.
unidentified
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
I mean, so many people die of cancer.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
Isn't cancer the number one killer?
Yeah, but cardiovascular disease.
brendan schaub
But cancer's up there.
That's a high rate, though.
joe rogan
That's a high rate, dude.
That's not like, go back to Jurassic Park, everyone's still alive.
That movie's long, you know.
eddie bravo
You would think there would be a lot of people, like now, even today.
brendan schaub
These nuclear bombs were going off in the 50s.
joe rogan
I don't understand how you, a guy who's always a conspiracy guy, doesn't recognize this conspiracy.
That these dummies didn't understand what the fuck they were doing with nuclear bombs.
eddie bravo
That's not a conspiracy, though.
joe rogan
It is a conspiracy.
What website is that?
It's on YouTube, so it can't be real.
eddie bravo
HowStuffWorks.com What was that?
joe rogan
HowStuffWorks.com That's legit.
eddie bravo
That's mainstream right there.
brendan schaub
HowStuffWorks.com That's as mainstream as you can get.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
You know what's mainstream?
The JRE. This is mainstream as fuck.
eddie bravo
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
This is mainstream as fuck.
brendan schaub
So what does that mean?
eddie bravo
5,000 downloads a day.
No, I'm kidding.
joe rogan
What does this mean?
Like, what does mainstream mean?
It doesn't mean it's not real.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Just because how stuff works is an independent website.
eddie bravo
No, what I'm saying is, you said it was a conspiracy theory, and I'm like, it wouldn't be if it was on that.
joe rogan
That's not what I said.
The conspiracy to keep this quiet, the fact that the government's nuclear tests most likely killed John Wayne and a shitload of actors from fucking cancer in the desert.
They were dropping bombs not knowing what the fuck they were doing.
And there's plenty of evidence that they didn't know what the fuck they were doing.
If you watch the videos of old nuclear test site with soldiers running towards the blast, have you seen those?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I've seen those.
joe rogan
They're fucking insane.
eddie bravo
It looks like...
I don't know.
All that old footage looks like...
brendan schaub
It doesn't look authentic.
It looks like they faked all that shit.
joe rogan
But I don't know.
eddie bravo
I'm a retard.
joe rogan
Do you think nuclear bombs are fake?
Is that what you're saying to me?
brendan schaub
You know, there's a conspiracy theory that nuclear bombs actually don't exist, that they never actually figured it out, but they realized that the threat of nuclear bombs is good enough.
joe rogan
But Eddie, you can see the bombs.
brendan schaub
The atom bombs?
eddie bravo
But how do you know by seeing them that they're real?
joe rogan
Did you ever see the one where they dropped the bomb in the ocean and they didn't know how much of a blast it would create?
eddie bravo
But what I'm saying is how do you know it wasn't just a regular powerful bomb?
Like, how do you know?
brendan schaub
How do you know by watching a bomb go off?
eddie bravo
But how do you know it's nuclear?
joe rogan
Pull up the nuclear test.
brendan schaub
I don't know what a nuclear bomb looks like when it blows up.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Compared to a regular...
I don't know.
joe rogan
How would you know the difference?
Eddie, listen to him.
unidentified
Eddie, listen to him.
jamie vernon
We have things that can test nuclear radiation.
eddie bravo
But I'm saying, how can you tell?
Because you can do tests.
I don't know.
joe rogan
You can do tests with those instruments.
brendan schaub
But I've never done those tests with you.
joe rogan
But you can.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Can you?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
You can, though.
unidentified
You're not willing to.
joe rogan
This is not something that you're studied in.
eddie bravo
I'm saying I don't know.
I know, but I'm just saying I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm telling you you can.
eddie bravo
How can people look at a bomb?
You're saying someone else figured it out.
brendan schaub
How can you look at a bomb?
joe rogan
I think you're thinking about shit the wrong way.
I really do.
brendan schaub
No, I'm just saying if there was videos of 20 bombs going off, would you be able to pick out the nuclear bombs?
joe rogan
Eddie, they make these giant mushroom clouds.
They're very unusual.
It's not like a regular bomb.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying...
joe rogan
Pull that video up of the bomb in the ocean.
eddie bravo
How can anybody tell, like a regular person, how could you tell?
joe rogan
Before you ask that question, I think you should probably talk to a nuclear physicist.
eddie bravo
I'm just asking questions.
I don't know.
joe rogan
But to question it like it's not real is ridiculous.
They killed how many fucking people in Nagasaki and Hiroshima?
eddie bravo
How do you know what kind of bomb that was?
joe rogan
Watch this.
Watch this bomb.
Look at this.
eddie bravo
How do you know what kind of bomb that is?
joe rogan
That is the craziest amount of power you could ever imagine.
I could never imagine something that can blow the ocean a mile into the sky.
And that's just one video of it.
There's another one of those videos where they do it from a distance.
Look at the water, where it's falling from.
brendan schaub
I get that.
joe rogan
See if you can find one.
brendan schaub
Do you understand?
It could be a nuclear bomb.
All I'm saying is how can you know for sure?
joe rogan
Look at that.
brendan schaub
How many whales died in this?
joe rogan
Oh, everything died.
brendan schaub
Everyone.
All the fish.
joe rogan
They made some tuna salad out of that motherfucker.
brendan schaub
All the fish are fucked.
joe rogan
Look at the water come down.
How crazy that is.
brendan schaub
That boat's fucked, though, huh?
joe rogan
Look at that.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't know what kind of bomb that is.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
Look at that.
eddie bravo
That's a big explosion.
brendan schaub
That's high, that's big, but I don't know what conventional bombs.
joe rogan
What difference does it make?
brendan schaub
Because Eddie's saying the reason why they threaten nuclear bombs is to keep everyone kind of chill, but we might not have the...
joe rogan
They've got the power to do that, dude.
That would wipe out a fucking city.
eddie bravo
But maybe you could do that with just regular conventional bombs.
Maybe that's like 10. What I'm saying is I don't know.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, you should find out.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
This is a nuclear bomb.
I mean, the scientists all agree there's no conspiracy.
The conspiracy is amongst idiots.
These people that are talking about it online, they literally have no idea what they're talking about.
And they're spreading this nonsense.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
I understand you don't know.
But don't even bother questioning it.
It's a waste of time.
You're going down a rabbit hole for no reason.
You're wasting all this time.
How do you know?
I don't need to know.
brendan schaub
What do you care about me wasting my time?
Waste my time on whatever.
eddie bravo
Why are you so concerned?
brendan schaub
Why are you so concerned about me wasting my time?
joe rogan
Because you waste our time, too.
unidentified
Why?
eddie bravo
It's an interesting conversation.
joe rogan
We start talking about whether or not nuclear bombs are real.
We don't have to talk about this.
brendan schaub
We don't have to talk about this.
unidentified
Why don't you want to find the answer to it?
Why don't you just want to question it?
You could look up the answer.
eddie bravo
You could go study it.
unidentified
You could look up.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you could look up anything.
unidentified
It's not going to look up.
joe rogan
If you literally want to know the answer to this particular question...
eddie bravo
You could look it up.
unidentified
No, no, no.
You could go to college.
joe rogan
You could get a professor.
jamie vernon
You could find any number of people that have the answers.
unidentified
Could show you how to study them.
eddie bravo
Could prove the test to you.
unidentified
Could lay it out.
jamie vernon
Could give you all these instructions so you could go do it on your own without anybody else.
eddie bravo
I don't care about it that much.
unidentified
Then why, again, on Joe's point, why bring it to us in question?
eddie bravo
I just don't trust anything I can't verify for myself.
brendan schaub
You don't have to get mad because of that.
eddie bravo
Why are you mad because of that?
brendan schaub
You're getting mad right now.
Because I don't trust shit from the government.
joe rogan
You're getting angry at me?
unidentified
You can verify this.
joe rogan
You just said you can't, but you can.
unidentified
That's the issue on some of these things with science.
eddie bravo
Have you verified it?
unidentified
Yes, they are verified.
brendan schaub
How did you verify it?
joe rogan
I went to fucking physics class at college.
brendan schaub
I got an A. Okay.
eddie bravo
So that proves nuclear bombs?
joe rogan
No.
I didn't make it to that class.
I quit college.
unidentified
I didn't keep going down the nuclear class.
That's farther in than physics 111 and 112 at Ohio State.
joe rogan
They don't give it to the freshmen.
brendan schaub
It's high level.
unidentified
That's it.
I mean, if you want the answers, you can go get them.
joe rogan
It's not just question the world.
This is why it's frustrating, because you don't want the answers.
You just want to question everything that the, in air quotes, government says.
eddie bravo
Who cares?
unidentified
We do.
eddie bravo
Why are you so angry over that?
joe rogan
I'm not.
It's frustrating.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because the world being flat, because nuclear bombs being fake, because dinosaurs not being real.
What's the big deal?
They're a giant waste of time.
unidentified
For who?
joe rogan
For us.
brendan schaub
Let's talk about something else.
joe rogan
Okay, but you like talking about those things.
brendan schaub
Hey, I didn't bring up nuclear bombs.
eddie bravo
You guys did.
I didn't bring it up.
joe rogan
But you really argued it for a while.
brendan schaub
I'm just bringing up questions and you're getting angry.
joe rogan
I'm not angry, Eddie.
brendan schaub
Okay, good.
joe rogan
Do you hear me being angry right now?
eddie bravo
You guys sounded angry.
brendan schaub
You said you were frustrated.
joe rogan
What's frustrating?
brendan schaub
Frustration usually is in there with anger.
I'm just saying, the one fun point Eddie was making is like, man, I don't know nuclear science or anything like that, so how do we know those atom bombs are real compared to a regular bomb?
It was a fun conversation.
That's it.
Just to mix up your fucking calves.
Jamie.
joe rogan
Game 7 tomorrow morning.
Turn in.
brendan schaub
Game 7. Big game.
LeBron's screwed.
unidentified
You can look into a lot of this stuff and you can't find the answers.
joe rogan
That's my only point.
And when you're talking over me, that's where the frustration comes from.
That's it.
eddie bravo
You're angry.
unidentified
I'm not angry.
brendan schaub
Don't get angry at me wasting my time.
joe rogan
Eddie, stop telling people to not get angry.
You're using that as a defensive tactic.
Because he's making a good point.
brendan schaub
Because I'm not the one...
joe rogan
He keeps saying people are angry.
brendan schaub
Okay.
eddie bravo
You say it's frustrating.
joe rogan
We could say that you're angry because you don't believe in the government.
You're angry.
I don't trust the government.
You could say that.
We could say, why are you angry?
brendan schaub
I do say that.
joe rogan
No, we could say that to you.
We could say, why are you angry?
That doesn't get anybody anywhere.
We're just talking about the reality of these facts.
brendan schaub
You guys can believe whatever you want.
unidentified
Alright, I will.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
I believe everything I've been taught and learned...
brendan schaub
Go right ahead.
joe rogan
I'm not angry at you.
brendan schaub
That doesn't frustrate me.
I don't care what you think.
joe rogan
But am I wrong then?
brendan schaub
No.
eddie bravo
You could believe whatever you want.
joe rogan
But why would you continue to question it?
Hey, Brendan, that's a nice shirt.
brendan schaub
What is that?
A lot of floral is in right now.
joe rogan
Is that flowers?
brendan schaub
Floral is in right now.
joe rogan
That's like abstract.
brendan schaub
If you go to Hawaii, make sure you wear a nice Hawaiian print.
It's in right now, Joe.
I know you're not big in this style.
joe rogan
Should you wear a Hawaiian shirt, like with the buttons?
Yes.
Because that's the only time you should wear those.
brendan schaub
They're in right now.
They're in right now.
joe rogan
I used to wear those on stage like an asshole.
brendan schaub
Did you really?
I thought they were cute.
They're back now, so he'd be good.
joe rogan
Oh, they're back.
You know what's in.
Do you have any idea at all what's fashionable?
brendan schaub
Not at all.
joe rogan
No idea.
brendan schaub
I have no idea.
eddie bravo
I'm wearing the same jeans from 10 years ago.
brendan schaub
I like fashion.
joe rogan
But why are you into fashion?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Since I was a kid, I was super into fashion.
I just love fashion.
I couldn't tell you why.
I collect shoes, I like the trendy whatever's going on.
joe rogan
But you're one of the Rare straight guys.
It's really weird.
brendan schaub
I know you'd think I'd suck a ton of dick.
That'd be a conspiracy theory.
joe rogan
You really do enjoy it.
brendan schaub
Love it.
joe rogan
Like, you like funky shoes.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I think I got a job on E. They're like, you're not gay?
I'm like, no, I'm just super into fashion.
eddie bravo
Well, girls like dudes that are into fashion, generally.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he genuinely likes it.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah, I love it.
You like looking good.
brendan schaub
I read about it, GQ magazine, all that stuff.
Oh, shit, okay.
unidentified
It's very strange.
brendan schaub
Nothing wrong with that.
When you were shooting your special in Boston, I erased the text because I was going to be like, dude, what are you going to wear?
And I was like, I'm not going to send that to him.
joe rogan
That's funny.
brendan schaub
That goes through my head, man.
I've outfits picked out weeks before.
Like, I have a show in Minnesota.
eddie bravo
Wait a minute, you have outfits picked out weeks before?
brendan schaub
I have shows in Minnesota, I have my outfits already picked out.
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, I dress terrible, always.
brendan schaub
No, it's your style, it's not terrible.
You don't dress like an asshole.
You make an effort.
joe rogan
Thank you very much.
I wear shirts that are too big for me.
They don't fit me right?
brendan schaub
I just wear Tung Planet shirts.
unidentified
That's a good move.
eddie bravo
Jiu-jitsu shirts.
brendan schaub
That's a good move.
They're good shirts.
eddie bravo
They're free!
joe rogan
What do you do when your style dies off?
Do you get rid of the clothes?
Evolve.
You give it to Salvation Army?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I get rid of it.
I give it to Salvation Army.
joe rogan
Yeah, I knew it.
So you're not even stockpiling the old shit.
You don't want to be caught dead with the old clothes in your house.
brendan schaub
Hell no.
Hell no.
joe rogan
How many pairs of shoes and sneakers do you keep at any time?
brendan schaub
Probably have around 150 right now.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here!
brendan schaub
What?
Young Jamie can relate to that.
eddie bravo
150 shoes?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
brendan schaub
And then now you know what's happening is I post on my Instagram story like kicks of the day or you know studio kicks and now companies are sending me shoes.
So I post on there.
It's a vicious cycle.
joe rogan
This Ninja Warrior shit is ridiculous.
This Ninja Warrior shit is going on in between Scientology commercials.
unidentified
I was hoping you guys were going to look up earlier Felice Herring ran.
brendan schaub
Oh how'd she do?
joe rogan
She didn't do very good.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
Unless it's your thing, it's fucking tough, man.
Dude, you know what I've been digging?
I'm sure it's not very...
You guys aren't going to dig it.
Your wife will.
It's that Peloton bike.
joe rogan
You like that?
brendan schaub
I burn a shitload of cow.
I can do a 45-minute class.
I only fuck with Robin NYC. She's a little beast on there.
I refuse to use anyone else.
joe rogan
Dude, people love those things.
brendan schaub
It's fun, man.
joe rogan
They love them.
brendan schaub
I still box and shit.
Quit looking at me like that, Eddie.
But I jump on a bike, man.
Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like being outside, man.
I like running hills so much.
My cardio, I try to do all outside.
I have that rowing machine thing and the air bike.
brendan schaub
My problem is if I have to be on set at 7, that means I leave the house at 5.45, so I'll get up at 4.30 and knock that out.
So just in my house and then go.
Jesus Christ.
How often do you do fighter and the kid?
Twice a week.
And then big brown breakdown?
Below the belt podcast Monday mornings, then shoot below the belt.
joe rogan
It's not the big brown breakdown anymore.
It's below the belt, son.
brendan schaub
Why'd you change it?
joe rogan
The government came to him.
They forced his hand.
They forced him.
brendan schaub
I just made it all in sync with the show on Showtime.
joe rogan
First of all, using Big Brown is now cultural appropriation.
brendan schaub
Correct.
You can't use it anymore.
joe rogan
I know they called you Big Brown, but you can't use it anymore.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Because you're not brown enough.
brendan schaub
Not brown enough anymore.
joe rogan
You should get a DNA test.
You get some 23andMe and find out you got something in you.
brendan schaub
Did you really get in trouble for using Big Brown Breakdown?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
You just didn't like it no more?
No, I liked it, but I got my show on Showtime, Below the Belt.
Oh, so you killed that.
I didn't kill it.
It's the exact same show.
I just wanted all the same brand.
joe rogan
What if you had like 18% Moroccan?
brendan schaub
What's the brand?
Below the Belt.
So everything's Below the Belt?
Below the Belt with Brendan Shabian.
Okay.
unidentified
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
TV show podcast.
joe rogan
What if you found out you were like 18% Moroccan?
You ever do one of those 23 and Me's?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
You got some stuff in you.
brendan schaub
I'd love to do that.
I'd love to find out if I was like 5% black or something.
joe rogan
Maybe.
brendan schaub
That girl, that girl, Woe Vicky.
You ever heard of Woe Vicky?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
The young girl?
There's this epidemic of these young rappers, these young white rappers that are...
Completely insane.
This girl will make you want to pull your hair out.
Her name is Woe Vicky.
She's just throwing money around.
She's a little white.
She's like 15 years old, right?
Or something like that.
And she talks like the...
She's claiming she's part black.
joe rogan
Lil Tay or Woe Vicky?
brendan schaub
Lil Vicky.
Woe Vicky, right?
joe rogan
Lil Tay also.
brendan schaub
Oh, Lil Tay's worse.
She's like 10 years old.
She's the Asian one, right?
She's like, yo, bitch.
But you watch this and you're like, oh shit, we're screwed down the road.
Scary.
And they're huge.
They're huge.
eddie bravo
And then Tekashi 6ix9ine.
brendan schaub
You guys hear Tekashi 6ix9ine?
unidentified
We talked about him.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
They make more money off YouTube than you guys do.
joe rogan
So we're screwed in terms of the future of the human race?
unidentified
Correct.
brendan schaub
Because they're looking up to these kids that have millions and millions of followers.
eddie bravo
All they do is bring out stacks of hundreds, get on Instagram live, and just start throwing down the money.
brendan schaub
She bought a helicopter.
eddie bravo
Little Tay.
unidentified
Let's try to find a good one here.
Whoa.
Here's their fight, actually.
joe rogan
She had a fight with somebody?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Cash Me Outside girl?
unidentified
Cash Me Outside.
They all ran into each other at the Glendale.
joe rogan
Let me see this.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
Oh shit!
brendan schaub
See the floral print though?
unidentified
Put your bag down.
eddie bravo
Damn, that's Woe Vicky right there.
joe rogan
Do something.
brendan schaub
You ain't gonna do that.
unidentified
No, no, no.
Don't touch on me 'cause I'm in the middle.
She's 14.
That's little 10.
She's 9. One's 14 and one's 9.
joe rogan
Yeah, the floral print hoodie is 14.
unidentified
I'm right here.
brendan schaub
Look at how many views this has, Joe.
joe rogan
She's trying to hit a nine-year-old.
unidentified
They have bodyguards too, which is the funny part.
joe rogan
Oh, so this is not really a fight.
unidentified
Are you lying?
Oh, they get into a fight.
joe rogan
No, they get into a fight, yes.
They physically fight.
Right here?
unidentified
Yeah, it's on...
I don't know where the second part is.
joe rogan
Don't tease me, bro.
brendan schaub
She just tries to reach over.
It's nothing major.
You gotta show the white girl, though.
joe rogan
I don't want to see little girls fight like that.
brendan schaub
Whoa, Vicky, just talking shit, throwing cash.
unidentified
What?
Put your racks on this car and I'm only nine years old.
I got the keys to this car.
brendan schaub
What?
Yeah.
unidentified
See this?
These are butterfly wings.
Y'all haven't seen this car in your lives.
I've been driving this around the Beverly Hills area and I'm only nine years old.
I ain't got no license, but I ain't ever gonna get no license.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
That's what they do.
joe rogan
Stop.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that?
They're huge.
They're rich for this.
Five million followers.
joe rogan
Who's behind that?
The parents?
eddie bravo
I don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
Who's holding the camera?
eddie bravo
I don't know what's going on.
It's scary.
brendan schaub
You gotta go to the white girl who thinks she's black.
eddie bravo
Won't Vicky?
joe rogan
Didn't that seem super prepared?
unidentified
Yeah, won't Vicky.
joe rogan
Didn't that seem like super rehearsed?
brendan schaub
I don't get it, man.
I don't know what's going on.
eddie bravo
It's hilarious though.
joe rogan
This is Woe Vicky.
Was she the other one?
The tall one that was in the background?
eddie bravo
Yeah, the tall one.
brendan schaub
She's the worst one.
joe rogan
You just had her.
brendan schaub
She's the worst one.
joe rogan
That wasn't her actual page.
No?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Woe Vicky talks so much.
And she claims she's part black.
That's her right there.
joe rogan
Oh, I saw that, girl.
eddie bravo
Look at this.
joe rogan
Listen to her.
unidentified
They keep commenting about me in a bad baby situation.
Y'all need to know what really happened.
That bitch is scary.
That bitch snuck me from behind while I was on the ground trying to grab my purse.
Let me tell y'all something.
This bitch waited till I was 18 to really fight me.
Like, bitch, we had beef for a whole year.
joe rogan
I just turned 18. Okay, I can't do this.
brendan schaub
This will fuck your life, bro.
She's huge.
joe rogan
I don't feel good right now.
brendan schaub
She bought a helicopter, Mr. Moon.
eddie bravo
She bought a fucking helicopter.
brendan schaub
No, seriously.
Seriously.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
Whoa, Vicky.
joe rogan
Damn, kids are fucked, huh?
eddie bravo
Kids are fucked.
joe rogan
The future's fucked.
eddie bravo
Dude.
And then that Takashi69 guy, he looks Mexican to me, but I think he's claiming he's black, right?
No.
brendan schaub
He says the N-word all the time.
joe rogan
All the time.
eddie bravo
And it's okay.
brendan schaub
No one's kicking his ass.
eddie bravo
It's totally okay.
brendan schaub
He's Puerto Rican, though.
They can do that up there in the Bronx.
eddie bravo
He looks like a regular Mexican guy from East L.A. Mexicans can't say that, but Puerto Ricans can.
joe rogan
How weird is that?
brendan schaub
Have you seen him?
eddie bravo
That is weird.
brendan schaub
Have you seen him before he went on gangsters?
eddie bravo
He has songs in the choruses where he's using that.
brendan schaub
It's part of the music.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He says it so much.
joe rogan
But you can do that if you're Puerto Rican.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's crazy.
They got in through a grain law.
unidentified
Somehow.
eddie bravo
And he's had six number one hits in a row.
brendan schaub
He's killing it.
He has rainbow hair.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's got a rainbow grill.
joe rogan
He's got a rainbow grill now.
That's new, right?
brendan schaub
He has a tattoo of 69 on his face.
joe rogan
And also that monster from Saw, that fucking guy.
eddie bravo
He has 69 tattoos on his body 69 times.
brendan schaub
There it is, look at that.
joe rogan
Jamie forced me into watching him.
eddie bravo
He has 69 tattoos 69 times on his body.
brendan schaub
Is that the one?
You're the one who told me that, I think.
joe rogan
Let me see his face with the new grill, because the new grill is off the charts.
He looks like a dude from East L.A. And meanwhile, we're talking about him, so he wins.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does.
eddie bravo
I follow him, dude, in every post.
I watch every post.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He's in trouble for what?
brendan schaub
For pedophile, a 13-year-old.
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's catching a case.
joe rogan
How old is he?
brendan schaub
That's what my friends say, catching a case.
joe rogan
Catching a case?
You're, like, down with the street.
Look, he's got a spiderweb tattoo on his face with that saw guy.
What's that saw guy's name?
Pinwheel or something like that?
Pinhead?
brendan schaub
Some scary shit, though.
Did anyone see the new saw with just that guy?
Jigsaw?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Jigsaw.
joe rogan
Jigsaw.
Look, he's got 69 on his belly.
That looks like marker.
jamie vernon
He just lost his $5 million headphone deal because of what happened at the Broner fight.
brendan schaub
What happened?
jamie vernon
He was in a beef with Adrian Broner.
brendan schaub
Who's that?
unidentified
The guy, a boxer.
joe rogan
He had a $300,000 bet.
jamie vernon
And I guess somebody in his crew, there was a beef with another rapper and a gun went off in the backstage.
unidentified
So he lost his headphone deal.
joe rogan
Goddammit.
And how many million dollars was his headphone deal?
unidentified
Five million dollars.
joe rogan
For a headphone deal.
eddie bravo
All he does is get on Instagram and just throw money.
joe rogan
I saw.
eddie bravo
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Jamie makes me watch.
brendan schaub
And he makes hits, though.
That's where he's getting his fame from.
Six number one songs in a row.
joe rogan
It's a crazy world we live in.
brendan schaub
It's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
It's a crazy world.
Yeah, go to that middle one with his grill.
Look at that.
Click on it.
eddie bravo
Is that a video?
Listen to him.
unidentified
Listen to him.
Before I get to that, I want to show off these.
brendan schaub
How can you chew with them?
unidentified
Made by Jimmy Boy, you know what I'm saying?
He flexed up on that one.
But I want to make a public service announcement.
For these past couple days, I've seen, like, there's a couple females that are trying to expose me or some shit.
Like, there's a lot of you.
Like, I can't even name certain.
There's a lot of you.
Yo, have a little bit more respect for yourselves.
And I say that in a way because y'all need to get past that it was just like a one-day thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Can you imagine if your daughter brought that home?
brendan schaub
Where'd you find that?
joe rogan
Go to Home Depot.
eddie bravo
Is this music good?
I've listened to clips of like 10-second clips.
brendan schaub
I'm old enough now where I don't know.
It's not for me.
eddie bravo
People are loving it.
brendan schaub
They're eating it up.
joe rogan
He's huge.
unidentified
The music business is a whole new era.
joe rogan
You'd have to call the doctor.
You'd have to get a psychiatrist.
brendan schaub
Is this a song?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
It's here.
It's here.
joe rogan
Just 10 seconds.
We can't play it.
It'll get us taken off of YouTube.
I can't afford that anymore.
brendan schaub
It might be great, you never know.
joe rogan
Here's my question.
If this is ridiculous, right, what is the next thing after this shit?
Look at this motherfucker.
Damn, this guy is ninja-ing the shit out of this stuff.
brendan schaub
I got pissed hard at him.
joe rogan
Go ahead, go ahead, piss.
brendan schaub
We're still going for a while?
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll keep going.
Look at this motherfucker on Ninja Warrior, man.
I'm super impressed with the way this dude is traversing this.
jamie vernon
I think there are people that call cultural appropriation on this Takeshi Sex9 guy.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
Of course he did.
People call everything on everybody.
unidentified
Because he's making...
jamie vernon
I don't know who's behind him either.
Like the managers are behind him and there's a couple other guys that are making a shitload of money like him.
brendan schaub
Is it a producer project?
Is it planned?
Did they pluck this guy and go, okay, this is perfect for our...
joe rogan
He'd have to really get a guy that's willing to tattoo his face.
You know what I mean?
That's some fucking...
unidentified
I don't think that's that crazy right now.
jamie vernon
So many people have tattooed faces.
joe rogan
That's some serious commitment.
Tattooing your mug.
Millions of dollars.
Yeah, but I mean, it might not work.
You're stuck with 69 on your face like an asshole.
jamie vernon
I think they probably might wait until they get that first big check.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Did he wait?
unidentified
I don't know about him particularly.
eddie bravo
There's a controversy between is he a blood or is he a crip?
brendan schaub
And he's claiming he's both.
eddie bravo
He goes, I'm friends with both of them.
brendan schaub
Something like that.
But he wears an awful lot of red, so people think that he's a blood crip.
joe rogan
What a weird, weird word.
Cut that shit off.
Shut it off.
Stop.
We can't do this anymore, Jamie.
He makes me watch this guy all the time.
Jamie's got his thumb on the pulse of the straights.
He tells me when shit's popping off.
brendan schaub
I follow him on Instagram.
I find him fascinating.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of fascinating people today, man.
Jamie also shows me these girls with giant butts.
Fake butts?
No, real ones.
Real ones.
Real giant squat asses.
eddie bravo
How do you know they're real, bro?
joe rogan
You can tell they're not because of the diaper butt.
Diaper butt is a real thing.
eddie bravo
That looks real.
joe rogan
That's real as fuck, dude.
Jesus Christ.
That makes me uncomfortable.
It's hot in here.
You know what's here?
Here's a fascinating thing.
The ass was not a big deal for a long time.
For a long time.
You go back to, like, Linda Carter in Wonder Woman, you never saw her ass.
brendan schaub
Ever.
joe rogan
The ass was not a thing, man.
The ass with Farrah Fawcett, you never saw Farrah Fawcett's ass.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
But now, if a girl's gonna be a hot chick, she's gotta have a banging ass.
If a girl's, like, in a movie as a hot chick, there's gonna be a point in the movie where you see her in a pair of tight jeans, you go, whoa.
Right?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
unidentified
Did Mix-a-Lot set that...
Like when he did Big Butts?
eddie bravo
I think he probably blew up Big Butts.
Everyone's like, alright.
joe rogan
He blew it up.
brendan schaub
He blew it up.
joe rogan
It was definitely a moment.
eddie bravo
But always in the Mexican community and the black community, we were always into Big Butts.
We didn't need society to tell us that.
brendan schaub
We didn't know what the hell it was.
eddie bravo
We were just like...
joe rogan
But if scientists came from the future and they're studying the size of asses, They'd be like, well, this is a noticeable jump in women's asses at a certain point in time in the 20th century.
Like, what is that?
brendan schaub
I saw this documentary once called The History of Sex.
It was on the Science Channel or something.
It was a five-part documentary.
And they were getting into why we like certain things from the opposite sex.
And the butt, apparently, the reason...
Well, obviously, like tits.
We like tits if they're big.
eddie bravo
We like them because we know they're going to be able to feed the baby.
So we get a little endorphin rush.
joe rogan
Big because a woman can have birth, give birth easier, so you're attracted to that symmetry.
brendan schaub
According to this documentary, the fat in the butt, during the third trimester of pregnancy, that's when the brain develops.
And the brain is developed from...
Fat from the ass, according to this documentary.
So I guess we're looking at big round asses for smarter babies.
joe rogan
Evolutionary.
brendan schaub
That's what that documentary said.
I don't, you know, who knows?
joe rogan
Well, they definitely know the shape of a woman that's attractive to us is because that's the most fertile women.
The women that's going to be most likely to hold a baby to term and raise the child.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's why all those qualities that you like, a lot of men are really attracted to nurturing women.
You're really attracted to a woman who wants a cookie dinner, a woman who wants to give you a massage.
To a lot of guys, that's a big deal.
Because that's like a nurturing type woman that would be not just that way to you, but that way to your children, too.
brendan schaub
We're talking about why, scientifically, are men into big ass shapes.
joe rogan
We're also talking about how back in the day asses weren't a big deal with Farrah Fawcett.
You never saw Farrah Fawcett's ass.
Wonder Woman.
brendan schaub
Marilyn Monroe.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Marilyn Monroe was curvy.
joe rogan
Yeah, but she wasn't sticking her ass out.
brendan schaub
You're right.
She was curvy though.
joe rogan
You know where it might have happened?
brendan schaub
J-Lo?
joe rogan
Remember Vita Guerra?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
J-Lo was before that.
joe rogan
That was a girl who was famous, but she was famous just for her ass.
brendan schaub
That's true.
joe rogan
Just for her ass with no internet.
No internet, dude.
Magazines.
Everybody knew who she was.
brendan schaub
Dude, Vito Guerrero was the all-time ass queen.
joe rogan
Yo, this was pre-internet, right?
Pre-social media.
brendan schaub
Look at that butt.
The best butt ass ever.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of Dodge with that ass.
And that was earned.
It was DNA and earned.
eddie bravo
He's Cuban or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's exactly what she was.
eddie bravo
I know a guy who dated her and he was not into her.
unidentified
Why?
brendan schaub
He just...
joe rogan
Likes dudes?
brendan schaub
I don't know, but he says there was nothing to talk about with her.
joe rogan
Hey man, sometimes that happens.
brendan schaub
I'm not trying to talk with her.
joe rogan
Sometimes you just want to have a conversation, bro, and snuggle.
brendan schaub
She's a singer, too.
joe rogan
Hey dude, sometimes you just want to talk about books.
eddie bravo
She put out an album!
joe rogan
You know, sometimes with a gal, you give her a book and you say, hey...
Before we do anything physical, you read this, and I want to read it, and then let's talk.
brendan schaub
Let's talk, yeah!
joe rogan
Let's talk about the book.
brendan schaub
Dude, that was a great fucking reference, Joe.
I forgot about Vida Gria.
She was my favorite.
I had a poster in my college dorm room of her.
joe rogan
What's impressive is her ass superseded the internet.
It, like, bypassed it.
brendan schaub
Are you sure it was before the internet?
joe rogan
I think it was.
unidentified
Wasn't it right at the internet?
joe rogan
The internet was there, but it wasn't why she got famous.
She got famous from magazines, bro.
brendan schaub
She was in Lowrider?
She was on top of that Lowrider with that ass out?
joe rogan
For sure, she had a push from the internet.
There was dudes passing her picture around and shit.
brendan schaub
She would have been way bigger if she was current now.
joe rogan
Yeah, what I should say is, well, there's a lot of girls like her now.
She'd get lost in the shuffle.
What I'm saying is, like, then, she was one of the few girls that people would pass her photos around pre-social media.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
So it wasn't like...
It was like this girl on an Instagram page, and she had 10 million followers because of her ass.
It was like, guys like you would go, dude, look at this.
And you would send it to me, and I'd go, Jesus!
brendan schaub
I hung a poster up in my dorm room.
joe rogan
And people emailed each other.
brendan schaub
The FHM Maxim Lowrider?
unidentified
Doesn't say.
joe rogan
Doesn't say in the bottom of the mark code?
eddie bravo
2005. She's probably done 500 magazines.
joe rogan
2005. This is pre-social media.
brendan schaub
Was she dating Nicholas Shea or some shit?
joe rogan
MySpace time.
MySpace time, but that wasn't the same as like Twitter, Facebook.
eddie bravo
I bet she had a tremendous MySpace, right?
joe rogan
Oh, probably.
eddie bravo
She probably crushed it.
joe rogan
Do you think she had Tom right in the upper left-hand corner?
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Tom.
brendan schaub
Tom was always your friend.
joe rogan
Remember Tom was always your friend?
brendan schaub
You just forced to be your friend.
It's fucked up, Tom.
joe rogan
You always had him in your fucking top eight, or whatever it was.
unidentified
That might have been her MySpace.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Is she still relevant on Instagram now?
Is she all old and weathered?
Or is she like...
What's homegirl's name?
Who's the dying piece?
Who's on Modern Family?
jamie vernon
600,000.
joe rogan
Oh, she's still killing it.
She still looks good.
Congratulations.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at her at all.
joe rogan
Hey, let's see if you find an actual...
There it is.
Still strong.
brendan schaub
Still doing it, girl.
joe rogan
Strong.
brendan schaub
Strong game.
She's got like horses.
joe rogan
God!
brendan schaub
Jesus!
joe rogan
That's some DNA. That's from the motherland.
I don't know where the motherland is, but wherever it is, that's from the root.
brendan schaub
Wherever she's from, it's the motherland.
joe rogan
She tapped into that shit like maple syrup.
brendan schaub
God doggy.
Didn't she date someone really famous?
joe rogan
I hope so.
I hope you can come on the show and tell us about everything.
Congratulations.
brendan schaub
What are we doing?
She's still doing it.
joe rogan
Let's end this with her.
I'm getting hot.
You were saying it was hot earlier, right?
brendan schaub
There's a lot of dudes up in here.
I'm feeling all weird, fellas.
joe rogan
It's funky.
brendan schaub
It's only dudes.
joe rogan
So we got through this.
brendan schaub
She's going to have a million followers after this podcast uploads.
People know who she is.
joe rogan
This is our first fight companion other than kickboxing outside the UFC. That's right, man.
It's good.
brendan schaub
It's been fun.
Hey, sorry about the nuclear war.
Sorry about the nuclear war.
I thought you made some good...
They're real.
Those bombs are real.
You just got into the points you're making, man.
joe rogan
I get it.
You just get a little caught up in conspiracies and sometimes it's just...
brendan schaub
I get it.
joe rogan
I think dinosaurs are real, bro.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
That's all I'm saying.
unidentified
I dig it.
brendan schaub
My son thinks so.
I'm in Minnesota this weekend.
Friday, Saturday, Minnesota.
Oh, shit.
Where are you?
House of Comedy, Mall of America.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
brendan schaub
And I'm in West Nyack the following weekend.
You know, that's trivia.
joe rogan
That's where Ari Shafir got arrested, or was almost getting arrested for dropping off edibles.
brendan schaub
Isn't that where it was?
joe rogan
Wasn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Minnesota, West Nyack.
T5K.com.
Me and Sam Tripoli, tinfoil hat comedy in San Francisco at Cobbs.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
Friday, June 1st, and then at the Punchline in Sacramento, Saturday, June 2nd.
Get your tickets at LiveNation.com.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Dude, you've been with me at that place a dozen fucking times.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's a big room.
joe rogan
That's a great room.
brendan schaub
Cobbs?
joe rogan
Cobbs in San Francisco.
brendan schaub
What's my favorite?
Beautiful.
I love Cobbs.
joe rogan
And the next show at the Comedy Store, I don't know if it's sold out, we're doing those Joe Rogan and Friends shows.
The next one is the 24th, I think.
May 24th.
I don't know where my phone is.
May 24th.
JoeRogan.com.
Young Jamie, get one of them powerful t-shirts.
unidentified
There's only a few left.
joe rogan
There's only a few left, you fucks.
Young Jamie has powerful hoodies and all kinds of shit.
YoungJamie.com.
Bye!
unidentified
See ya!
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