Jan. 29, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Pacoats are supposed to be amazing. | ||
| They hang out with you. | ||
| 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Ben Greenfield, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| So, it's been a lot of fun hanging out with you for the last 44 minutes. | ||
| That's a sick game you have out there. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty fun, right? | ||
| I need to build a really, really big, like, 67-yard-long living room to put my big screen in now. | ||
| Yeah, that thing is crazy. | ||
| We're talking about this game called Techno Hunt that we were just playing. | ||
| So, dude, you are an interesting fucking guy. | ||
| You do a lot of weird shit. | ||
| No, thank you, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's good, yes. | ||
| It's a compliment. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| Yeah, interesting is a good thing. | ||
| But your background, you were just telling me, this is very fascinating. | ||
| You live way the fuck out in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| Well, it's kind of, I mean, it's Spokane. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Spokane, I mean, we have like a theater. | ||
| But you're off the grid. | ||
| And we have restaurants. | ||
| There are actual people there. | ||
| Two restaurants. | ||
| Yeah, there's a theater. | ||
| There's a little five and dime store and a general store. | ||
| Spokane's a normal place. | ||
| It's pretty normal. | ||
| But you're totally off the grid. | ||
| Well, up at our house we are. | ||
| You know, we're solar panels and well. | ||
| And the way I have it set up is we eased in power from the local municipal power. | ||
| But if that goes out, then it hits the solar inverters and we're full solar. | ||
| So then there's like a battery panel in the garage that stores the solar. | ||
| Because we're on like a north-facing slope. | ||
| So you get sun from 10 to 2. So we can't collect a lot of solar, but you store it in the battery, so it's there. | ||
| So you've got to be very judicious with your laptop use. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you want to go off the grid, totally. | ||
| It's a stupid home. | ||
| So there's no Wi-Fi. | ||
| There's no Bluetooth. | ||
| It's hard-wired, metal-shielded Ethernet cable. | ||
| That's through the whole house. | ||
| Because I don't like to have Wi-Fi signals bouncing around. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I don't feel good. | ||
| I've always wondered about that. | ||
| What is that doing to us? | ||
| Well, I actually just read, there's a really good new book that came out. | ||
| It's called The Non-Tinfoil Hat Guide to EMF. I think it's the full title of the book. | ||
| But it goes into this idea of what are called voltage-gated calcium channels on your cell membrane, and all those actually get affected by Wi-Fi. | ||
| And apparently you see a change in In the electrochemical balance across the actual membrane in response to things like Wi-Fi, apparently Bluetooth affects red blood cells, and I haven't seen a lot of like actual, you know, in vivo research on that, but I know that I feel better when I don't have like the Wi-Fi router going or, you know, I turn off all my... | ||
| Everything at night. | ||
| There's kill switches in all the bedrooms. | ||
| So you walk into the house and it's just super clean. | ||
| Everything's HEPA air filters, negative ion generators, no Wi-Fi, no Bluetooth. | ||
| We structure all the water that comes in from the well, so it's the same. | ||
| Have you heard of structured water before? | ||
| Yeah, I've just heard about it because Eddie Bravo just got that installed in his gym. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's kind of cool. | ||
| I mean, the idea behind it, there's this cat up at University of Washington named Dr. Gerald Pollack, and he has done this research that shows, like, in plants or vessels, like blood vessels, for example, there's an exclusion zone of water. | ||
| I mean, there's like a positive charge on the inside and a negative charge on the outside. | ||
| And that might be backwards. | ||
| It might be positive on the outside, negative on the inside. | ||
| But either way, it causes fluid to move through vessels in a way that allows it to move more easily, like the water is actually charged. | ||
| So apparently when you drink structured water, it hydrates the cell a little bit better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sounds like it might be... | ||
| That's apparently how water moves through plants. | ||
| That's one of those things that you hear and then, like, you talk to a scientist and they go, no! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they get mad, so I don't know. | ||
| Well, I interviewed that guy, Gerald Pollack, and he has compared... | ||
| Basically, what he's compared is, like, how it moves in glass tubes and how if you structure it and you watch it, like, the water moves up through the glass tube way, way better. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then I interviewed this guy, Thomas Cowan, and he talks about how the heart is not really a pump or doesn't act as much like a pump as we're led to believe. | ||
| And so if you drink structured water, apparently the blood moves better through the vessels. | ||
| I haven't seen a ton of research on it, but I structure my water just because it's cheap. | ||
| It's like this tiny little plastic piece that you put on your water filter. | ||
| What exactly is it doing? | ||
| So the water passes through a series of glass beads. | ||
| It vortexes it. | ||
| So it comes out of my well, and I tested my water, and I've got a bacteria-based iron. | ||
| High levels of manganese like I thought well water was just all like pristine clear like you know like if you drink out of a spring on top of a mountain, but Apparently there's there's crap in the well water So I filter it and then after it all filters it passes through the structured water filter I would imagine that you would get some stuff in the water because if somewhere along the line there's like a dead animal or beaver fever Yeah, there's dead animals all over my house, just piled everywhere. | ||
| Carcasses. | ||
| So I'm very careful. | ||
| Outside the woods. | ||
| Well, then the other thing is, like, what I get concerned about is, you know, you see, like, glyphosate and herbicides and pesticides. | ||
| They get sprayed all over the crops, and I live in farmland territory, right? | ||
| So I'm on this north-facing slope, and there's all, like, these farms above me. | ||
| So I figure if that's dropping down through the ground into that water, I might be getting some of it. | ||
| So I filter. | ||
| Yeah, that totally makes sense. | ||
| I know a guy who got bone cancer because he lived off of a golf course. | ||
| And the golf course is constantly spraying stuff on the golf course, and it got into the water supply. | ||
| And a bunch of people in this neighborhood got cancer. | ||
| How do they know that gave him bone cancer? | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Like, it happened to more people? | ||
| Yeah, a ton of people in the neighborhood got cancer. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You know, what I tell people is... | ||
| Like people who don't have a well and who just live off the municipal water supplies, you use a reverse osmosis water filter because it's a really, really fine filtration. | ||
| But it takes everything out. | ||
| Like it takes the bad stuff and the good stuff out. | ||
| So you want to add minerals back in after you filter the water. | ||
| So you get a reverse – and you could buy these on like Amazon. | ||
| So like a reverse osmosis filter with what's called remineralization. | ||
| Or you can just use reverse osmosis and then use like trace liquid minerals or sea salt or anything else that's going to be used. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Electrolytes back in your diet. | ||
| I know a lot of people put like a pinch of Himalayan salt in the water. | ||
| I go through so much salt. | ||
| I use this stuff called Mexican salt, Kalima salt. | ||
| I was actually at a steakhouse last night. | ||
| People make fun of me because I pull out my big white bag of salt and I just sprinkle it on everything. | ||
| But I'm a fiend for salt. | ||
| I love salt. | ||
| It's very good for you. | ||
| And unfortunately, there's been a terrible myth that's been perpetrated a long time ago that salt gives you high blood pressure and it kills you. | ||
| That's a real tragedy because that's one of those ones that it was spread in probably, what was it, the 60s or the 70s when they started telling people that salt causes high blood pressure? | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| People still repeat it today and they don't understand it. | ||
| It's an essential mineral. | ||
| Well, there's a new book out about this. | ||
| I forget the name of the book about salt. | ||
| Have you heard of this book? | ||
| Yeah, I've heard of the book, but I don't know the name of it either. | ||
| But it depends, too, because I used to do racing for Team Timex. | ||
| I used to do these Ironman triathlons, and they'd bring people in to test us. | ||
| And they would do sweat-sodium analyses, where you actually get a patch put on your skin, and it measures the amount of sodium released over X surface area of skin. | ||
| And then there's an algorithm that determines how much total sweat you lose, say, per hour during exercise. | ||
| And some people lose a copious amount of sodium in their sweat, and some lose barely any at all. | ||
| So you have like a sodium conservation mechanism that differs from person to person. | ||
| So there might be some people who store salt really well who might actually get higher blood pressure if they consume a lot of salt. | ||
| So if you had a massive excess of salt in your time. | ||
| Yeah, my numbers were off the charts though in terms of how much sodium I was losing, which is probably why I feel so good. | ||
| Well that makes sense. | ||
| You're sweating so much, right? | ||
| I mean it's just going right through your body. | ||
| Plus it tastes amazing. | ||
| I'm happy to die of high blood pressure just because the salt just makes everything taste like. | ||
| I know, I'm a big fan. | ||
| I love kosher salt. | ||
| They used to pay. | ||
| Didn't they pay like Roman soldiers in salt? | ||
| Oh yeah, people went to war for salt. | ||
| I'd take salt. | ||
| I mean, it's really kind of amazing that it was just less than 200 years ago that they figured out how to make refrigerators. | ||
| I mean, what is a refrigerator? | ||
| From the 1930s, I think it was? | ||
| When did they first invent those things? | ||
| And then before that, they had ice boxes. | ||
| You'd have to get a chunk of ice from somewhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Have to get an insulated carrier. | ||
| You mean just to store stuff. | ||
| And before that, they just used salt to preserve things. | ||
| Yeah, they'd cover things in salt. | ||
| And I've heard, I don't know if this is true, But I heard that if you come from an area, like if your ancestry is from an area where they did a lot of that fermenting, pickling, curing, salting, that you have more robust sodium loss mechanisms. | ||
| Which would make sense for me. | ||
| Like on Northern European heritage, they did a lot of pickling, salting, curing. | ||
| So I would lose more salt than somebody who might have come from, let's say, like a Sub-Saharan African or Southeast Asian or somewhere where they might not have been using so much salt. | ||
| Yeah, that totally makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This Wi-Fi thing, I want to go back to that. | ||
| Because I've always wondered. | ||
| There's not a long history of use, of human use of Wi-Fi. | ||
| And one of the things, it sounds so hippy-dippy. | ||
| It's like the stem cells we were talking about, right? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| There's not a lot of studies on that either. | ||
| 90-year-old dudes running around that have been doing stem cells for 60 years. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| But the Wi-Fi, it sounds hippy-dippy, but if you go somewhere like Prince of Wales, Alaska, and you're on a mountaintop, it feels different. | ||
| Oh, it totally does. | ||
| There's no radio. | ||
| There's no Wi-Fi. | ||
| There's no direct TVs getting to you. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| And it feels different up there. | ||
| Well, you're also, I mean, like you're grounding and earthing, right? | ||
| And you're breathing a lot more negative ions because you're outside in the fresh air. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Really, for sure. | |
| You don't have all the emails jumping out from your inbox. | ||
| There's a lot of confounding variables. | ||
| But, I mean, all I know, and I test, you ever tested heart rate variability? | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, it's the, do you know what that is, HRV? A lot of athletes use it. | ||
| I've heard it, but I don't know much about it. | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| It's the interbeat individuality, like the variation in the amount of time in between each beat of your heart. | ||
| So it's not like how fast your heart is beating, it's how much time is in between each heartbeat. | ||
| So you can measure that, and you're supposed to have slight beat-to-beat variation in how much time is between each heartbeat. | ||
| And if you have that, that's high heart rate variability. | ||
| So you can use that to track your readiness to train, your recovery. | ||
| So I use a ring like this, or I'll do a heart rate strap in the morning. | ||
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What's that ring? | |
| It's an aura ring. | ||
| Have you heard of this thing? | ||
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No, but dude, just going on your website is such a mindfuck. | |
| I got it out of a Cracker Jack box. | ||
| It's a power ring. | ||
| It's a mood ring. | ||
| I have seen one of those. | ||
| Someone sent me something. | ||
| They don't just use rings, right? | ||
| There's other methods of measuring it as well? | ||
| Oh yeah, like you can use a Bluetooth-enabled heart rate monitor strap. | ||
| That's what I used to do is you wake up in the morning, you put on the strap, and you test your heart rate variability. | ||
| And it tells you, you know, if it's low, you might say, okay, well, today is going to be like a yoga day or an easy swim or a walk in the sunshine. | ||
| And if it's high, then that would be a day where you'll do like kettlebell training or a WOD or whatever it is that you're going to do. | ||
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Really? | |
| And then the other thing you could use it for is if you'll sometimes purposefully get it low. | ||
| Like I have some athletes that I train where we'll work them into a state where they've got really low heart rate variability. | ||
| And then what happens is you taper, right? | ||
| Like you recover, you rest, you super compensate. | ||
| So you see a bounce back of nervous system recovery. | ||
| And you can use that to purposefully adjust the training. | ||
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Huh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you train through a low HRV for too long, you can predict illness. | ||
| You can predict injury. | ||
| So it's a cool way to track training. | ||
| And you can even look at there's a high frequency and a low frequency component. | ||
| When you're saying you can predict illness and injury, how so? | ||
| Meaning like my HRV is low, but screw it. | ||
| I'm going to go train anyways. | ||
| And you do that day after day, you get injured. | ||
| And the weird thing is that you can have no musculoskeletal soreness. | ||
| Because a lot of time that subsides, you know, delayed onset muscle soreness, you see that disappear after like 48 hours. | ||
| And if you've crushed yourself, like we can talk about this later if you want, but I've been doing single set to failure. | ||
| Single set to failure exercises where it's just like a 15 minute long workout, but it's just full on isometrics as hard as you can go for 60 seconds to two minutes. | ||
| Isometric. | ||
| So you're pushing against, it's like this force plate machine that you push against and you just generate as much force as you can and it ties to your iPhone and it alerts you when you've dropped off 60% of what you're originally producing at the beginning of the set. | ||
| And then that's it. | ||
| Set's done, game over. | ||
| So you might do deadlift, squat, press, overhead press, pull down. | ||
| And that's the whole workout. | ||
| And then you're just recovering in between each of those sets. | ||
| So this plate, I mean, how are you doing a deadlift with a plate? | ||
| It's a force plate. | ||
| So for example, you'll have like a bar that you're holding onto, and the bar is attached to the force plate via two stands, like two pillars on either side of the bar. | ||
| And you pull the bar, and then the force plate detects how much force you're pulling. | ||
| And what position are you in in the deadlift or the bottom position? | ||
| You're standing on top of the force plate. | ||
| You're supposed to choose the hardest position of each exercise. | ||
| So like halfway in? | ||
| So if I'm bench pressing, it's like my elbows are slightly bent as though I'm just near the top. | ||
| Or squatting, it's like the knees are bent at about 30, 40 degrees. | ||
| So you get into that position, then you generate as much force as possible for 60 seconds. | ||
| When I first did it, I was at 30 seconds. | ||
| Now I can go a little bit over a minute where I can continue to generate As much force as possible before it drops off to just 60% of what I was originally producing. | ||
| It's a cool, efficient way to train, but you don't get that sore afterwards, right? | ||
| So musculoskeletal soreness is not a good indicator of recovery in many cases. | ||
| And that's where this HRV thing comes in, is your nervous system, right? | ||
| Your central nervous system, your neuromuscular system can be really beat up after a workout, even if the soreness has subsided. | ||
| So that's where you use something like HRV and you can say, okay, well, I'm not sore, but my HRV is still low. | ||
| So this is going to be an easy day for me. | ||
| I'm sorry to act like a moron, but explain that one more time. | ||
| So if your body is not sore, but your HRV is low, what is it showing? | ||
| What's an indication of? | ||
| So if your body is not sore, but your HRV is low, HRV is measuring your nervous system recovery, right? | ||
| So you might not be fully recovered. | ||
| So what I'm saying is like musculoskeletal soreness or discomfort is not necessarily the best indicator of whether you're fully recovered. | ||
| You have to test the nervous system too. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| I've never even heard of someone doing that before. | ||
| And that's where something like an HRV measurement comes in. | ||
| And coming full circle, I've noticed when I do those morning measurements and I'm traveling or I've got the Wi-Fi enabled at my house, my HRV is low. | ||
| So it's affecting my nervous system somehow. | ||
| Do you think the Wi-Fi is a mindfuck? | ||
| Do you think it's really doing something to you? | ||
| I think it's doing something, but then there's the placebo effect, I feel it. | ||
| Do you feel it in this room? | ||
| I feel really... | ||
| I'm trying to feel it. | ||
| That's why you're a moron right now. | ||
| You've got the Wi-Fi going. | ||
| What's going on, Jamie? | ||
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What do you got there? | |
| This is my HRV off of my iPhone. | ||
| Oh, you just... | ||
| What did you use? | ||
| Did you use the fingertip? | ||
| I have my Apple Watch. | ||
| What? | ||
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The Apple Watch tests your HRV? Yeah, so it's been doing it the whole time I've had it on. | |
| But it's paradoxical because the Apple Watch is making Wi-Fi. | ||
| Jesus Christ, you can't win! | ||
| It's so confusing. | ||
| Goddammit, Ben Greenfield. | ||
| No, that's what I was talking about. | ||
| This ring, I bought this in Finland like three years ago because I wanted like a body tracking device. | ||
| I want to track my HRV and I want to track my sleep cycles, but I don't like sleeping all night because I sleep with my hand tucked down by my dick. | ||
| I don't want something just like... | ||
| You sleep like this? | ||
| I sleep on my side with my hands tucked underneath me. | ||
| And my right hand is right down around my balls, basically, while I'm sleeping. | ||
| And I didn't want something just blasting me while I was sleeping. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Because if it was on my wrist or on my finger or wherever. | ||
| So this has a built-in computer, and you can put it in airplane mode. | ||
| And it'll still collect all the HRV data and everything else. | ||
| Then when you want to take it out of airplane mode and sync it to your phone and upload all your sleep data or your HRV data or anything else, you can do it. | ||
| So that's why I wear this ring instead of like a Fitbit or a Jawbone or Jamie's stupid Apple Watch. | ||
| I never know whether or not I'm being ridiculous with this stuff, like with worrying about phones being in your pocket if you have butt cancer. | ||
| You know, because some dude told me that once, that he got cancer. | ||
| I think it was testicle cancer on his right side. | ||
| And the guy was saying, do you keep your phone in your right pocket? | ||
| He's like, yes, I do. | ||
| And the doctor was telling him that. | ||
| I was like, how the fuck does the doctor know? | ||
| Like, this is not proven stuff. | ||
| This is all real speculation, right? | ||
| I mean, it's tricky because, I mean, you could say about the bone cancer on the golf course, right? | ||
| But a lot of people got it. | ||
| But I think there was a class action lawsuit there because I think they tested the water and there was whatever the fuck the stuff that they used for fertilizer or pesticides. | ||
| That's what I was telling you. | ||
| I was concerned about the dick cancer thing because of the stem cells. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, you shot stem cells into your dick. | ||
| Well, for the past three months. | ||
| Please explain. | ||
| So Men's Health Magazine just had me write this article called New Year, New Dick. | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| It's the issue with Marky Mark Wahlberg on the cover. | ||
| How appropriate. | ||
| Yeah, like how to make a small dick bigger, right? | ||
| And you put Marky Mark on the cover. | ||
| And now he can beat me with his four-foot-tall fisticuffs. | ||
| Anyways, though, so they had me go around doing everything that a guy could do to enhance sexual performance or increase the size of your dick or increase blood flow or increase orgasm quality. | ||
| They just wanted to find out what everything from, like, freaking gas station dick pills to—which, by the way, those things do not have in them what they say they have in them. | ||
| What do you think they have in them? | ||
| So they say, like, Epimedium and Urokema Long Jack— Right. | ||
| It's basically freaking sildenafil, the active ingredient in Cialis or Viagra, and then ephedra and copious amounts of caffeine. | ||
| So I would take these things and just literally feel like my head was going to explode. | ||
| I mean, it's like drinking 10 cups of coffee. | ||
| Yeah, we have a friend of ours who predicted accurately that John Jones was taking those things when he pissed hot because he was like, those things have everything in them. | ||
| And he's like, John Jones does coke? | ||
| He goes, I guarantee you he's taking dick pills. | ||
| They're actually pretty entertaining to read because it's like reading a Chinese fortune cookie. | ||
| It's like maximum potency vigora and everything's spelled wrong. | ||
| So they had me doing that. | ||
| Did you do an analysis of the ingredients? | ||
| Did you actually get it tested? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| We went to all these labs. | ||
| They wouldn't let us actually test, but apparently the FDA has tested them. | ||
| And if you go to the FDA.gov website, they have these warnings out about the actual ingredients. | ||
| We took the five that they had warnings about and tested them. | ||
| The dangerous ones. | ||
| Yeah, you don't feel well. | ||
| You feel like your head's going to explode and your hands get all cold and clammy. | ||
| And some of them say, I don't know why, but they say to take them in the morning. | ||
| Which doesn't, to me, make sense, but you take them in the morning and you just feel completely screwed up the whole morning. | ||
| It's like you're just mainlining coffee. | ||
| So they did that. | ||
| Have you heard of this acoustic sound wave therapy for your dick? | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| I'm sure you are. | ||
| I'm not even going to answer. | ||
| No, I have not. | ||
| So this is a clinic in Florida. | ||
| It's called Gaines Wave. | ||
| Of course it's in Florida. | ||
| You go down there, and I walk in, and the first thing they do is they hand me this syringe full of numbing cream, and I'm supposed to just put it everywhere, and so I smeared it. | ||
| My balls, I just went everywhere, because I didn't really know what they were going to do, and I wanted all shields activated going into this thing. | ||
| So I walk into the room and my dick's all numb. | ||
| They have me lay down and so my legs are splayed. | ||
| I'm on this exam room table and this gal comes in and she's got like this giant wand attached to a machine. | ||
| And they do this for women too, by the way. | ||
| They put like a condom on the end of it. | ||
| And she just basically goes to town for like 20 minutes like a jackhammer. | ||
| It was like brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr And then they follow it up, | ||
| and you get a nerve block first. | ||
| I thought, I don't know why, I thought they put the needle just like right in the pee hole, which to me made sense, but it doesn't really. | ||
| I mean, you want it in the actual tissue. | ||
| So they actually go like up where the dick attaches, like the tissue at the top. | ||
| They do two nerve blocks on either side and then the PRP. And later on, like a couple months later, they had me do stem cells. | ||
| They actually extracted fat from my back and we did a stem cell injection. | ||
| But this acoustic sound wave therapy with the PRP, like it wears off and you literally just like get boners all the time. | ||
| Like all night long for like a month. | ||
| So the acoustic sound therapy is supposed to be breaking up blood vessels? | ||
| Breaks open old blood vessels. | ||
| Jamie found it. | ||
| Gaines wave procedure breaks up plaque formation in blood vessels and stimulates the growth of new blood vessels in the penis. | ||
| Low intensity extracorporeal shockwave therapy. | ||
| That's gonna sell a lot of procedures. | ||
| I like the drawing. | ||
| Before and after. | ||
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Before your veins are all tired and skinny. | |
| Yeah, before it looks like an old, hunched-over man. | ||
| Then all of a sudden, vigor! | ||
| It looks like a bodybuilder vein. | ||
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Vigorous. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I used to do bodybuilding. | ||
| It's a horrible sport. | ||
| Do you think it's real? | ||
| Do you think that's really doing something? | ||
| It worked for me. | ||
| It worked for me. | ||
| So yeah, they did the gas station dick pills. | ||
| They did the acoustic sound wave therapy. | ||
| But the acoustic sound wave therapy was the best. | ||
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The PRP injections. | |
| They had me do like the... | ||
| No, the stem cells were the best. | ||
| Stem cells were the best. | ||
| Stem cells, but not everybody's going to be able to do that. | ||
| But that was the best, bar none. | ||
| So I went down to Florida. | ||
| Of course again, Florida. | ||
| I think it's because all the old people live in Florida. | ||
| Florida's just crazy. | ||
| It's barely America. | ||
| Fort Lauderdale, all the people hunched over the steering wheel, but all the guys have great dicks. | ||
| They can't drive. | ||
| They have their blinker on for like two miles before they turn, but their dicks are primed. | ||
| So the stem cell thing was at the U.S. Stem Cell Clinic in Florida, and I went in there, and they extract all the fat. | ||
| For me, they took the fat out of my back. | ||
| And what they do is they have—it's called an enzymatic process where they use something that breaks down the collagen in the fat, and then they have the stem cells that get separated from the fat. | ||
| And apparently it's very, very high in these angiogenic, like vascular or vessel-building compounds. | ||
| And so then you get that re-injected. | ||
| It's high in the— Mesenchymal, the MSC, the MSC cells, which are supposedly the very good ones to inject in. | ||
| So I injected those, or I had a doctor in Spokane. | ||
| So they shipped them to Spokane on ice, and they show up at my house at like 7 a.m., right? | ||
| Because you've got to get them delivered same day. | ||
| And then I had my appointment at the doctor at 9 a.m., and I went to the doctor, and it was like deja vu from Florida, right? | ||
| Like I go in, do the numbing. | ||
| Did the doctor know you were going to do this? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The doctor in Spokane? | ||
| Are you friends with the doctor? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's a picture. | ||
| I think there's a picture of him in the magazine. | ||
| Because they put all sorts of crazy pictures in the magazine. | ||
| Because they had me doing like infrared light on my balls. | ||
| And I have this big thing called the juve light that they had me standing in front of every day. | ||
| A juve light? | ||
| I'll tell you about the stem cells. | ||
| Okay, yeah, let's go one step at a time. | ||
| Because it's crazy. | ||
| So, the stem cells. | ||
| I went to this doctor in Spokane, and he injected these stem cells from my fat after they'd grown for like several... | ||
| In this case, I think they were down there for like eight weeks. | ||
| But, I mean, they can do same-day injections, but for me, I didn't have enough fat. | ||
| Because for me, it was right in the middle of... | ||
| I race professionally in obstacle course racing, so I'm just like lean as hell as I go in there. | ||
| So they could barely get enough fat, so they had to grow them for a longer period of time. | ||
| A lot of times they can inject same day. | ||
| So I went into Spokane at this clinic in Spokane, Le Nou Integrative Clinic. | ||
| It's like this osteopathic medical clinic with all these nice receptionists when you walk in the door and this doctor who, he's done stem cell injections before, but he never actually injected them into someone's dick. | ||
| So I was kind of like the guinea pig for this. | ||
| So do you have to explain to him what areas you're supposed to inject into? | ||
| No, he researched it, and I think he actually talked to the folks at the stem cell clinic beforehand to make sure that they were on the same page. | ||
| So I didn't want to fly all the way back down to Florida. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's super inconvenient, and it's just a dick. | ||
| They'll make more someday. | ||
| They're growing kidneys and ears. | ||
| I'm sure they'll grow dicks someday. | ||
| So I got it injected. | ||
| And that was... | ||
| First of all, it looked like it got run over by a semi-truck for like two days. | ||
| It was like all black and blue where the injection site was. | ||
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Were you nervous? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I'd be super nervous. | ||
| Like, what if it got infected? | ||
| It could have gotten infected. | ||
| I could still get dick cancer. | ||
| I've had MRSA, and I would not wish MRSA on your dick. | ||
| How'd you get MRSA? A triathlon. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| This was at the Wildflower Triathlon. | ||
| Like, coming back, my flight got delayed, and I was covered in all these, because it's like an off-road triathlon, and I had all these scrapes and wounds. | ||
| And I think my layover was in Vegas. | ||
| I don't remember where but I had to check in the hotel if I got delayed and I slept in this hotel room that I swear like there must have been something on the bed because within a few days like it was all you know it gets all nasty and cakey and then it was eating a hole. | ||
| I wrote a whole blog post about this on my website and you can see pull up the hole in the back of my leg it's nasty. | ||
| Marcia scares the shit out of me. | ||
| Just search for like Ben Greenfield staff and you'll see the pictures but it was eating a hole in the back of my leg. | ||
| And my kids roll now once a week, and I get the defense soap from Onnit. | ||
| As soon as they come back in the door, I have them go into the shower upstairs. | ||
| Defense soap is awesome. | ||
| Yeah, they have a bunch of different wipes and stuff for people that train in a place that doesn't have a shower. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah, you gotta be careful. | ||
| That and Thieves essential oil. | ||
| Like, it's like a whole bunch of companies make this version of essential oil called Thieves. | ||
| It's like clove. | ||
| It's named after these thieves who apparently never... | ||
| Yeah, clove, cinnamon, eucalyptus, which is really good for staff and rosemary. | ||
| It's actually named. | ||
| There's like this story of like these four thieves that apparently traveled around the world and they would rob homes and they never got sick. | ||
| Like that's basically the story. | ||
| I'm sure this was some board table at a multi-level marketing essential oils company. | ||
| Somebody came up with this story. | ||
| Or it could be true. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the, yeah, the stem cells into the dick. | ||
| That was an interesting one. | ||
| But it did, I think, from what I can tell, looking in the mirror, it got bigger. | ||
| How much? | ||
| Half inch? | ||
| Oh, like, maybe that much. | ||
| Quarter inch? | ||
| Like, enough to tell. | ||
| And my erections got bigger and my orgasms got a lot better. | ||
| For how long? | ||
| They're still like that. | ||
| Still? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so I think the stem cells kind of like stick with you. | ||
| Well, last week I got them, I told you I'm training for the RKC kettlebell cert and I was doing the 100 reps in five minutes snatch test with the one and a half food and I felt something just go. | ||
| I was at 84 reps and I felt something go in my back and I got stem cells injected all up and down my QL, my multifidus, my rectospinae into my psoas. | ||
| But then they also sent them to my house, and I did that same fat cell, the stuff that's rich in the mesenchymal stem cells, into the bloodstream. | ||
| So I did a push IV into the bloodstream. | ||
| That's the one that you would have to go out of the country. | ||
| That's the one you gotta go to Panama for. | ||
| You're not supposed to do that. | ||
| It's technically not legal for someone to inject you with your own stem cells into your bloodstream, but if you get your stem cells extracted and they're stored and they send them to you, you can technically inject them if you do it yourself or you have a friend who's a nurse or whatever. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it's literally just like a push IV. It's like 30 seconds. | ||
| We caught it on video for men's health films. | ||
| So they'll publish a video at some point, but I was super nervous because it's like a few thousand dollars worth of stem cells that You know, I'm trying to hit the vein and make sure that they go in the right way and then inject. | ||
| It's a very, very small amount. | ||
| You had to be the most nervous getting them shot into your dick, though, no? | ||
| I was kind of nervous, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that seems to me, like, super experimental. | ||
| I do a lot of that, though. | ||
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Yeah, I know you do. | |
| I mean, like, that's kind of my shtick, right? | ||
| Like, I do a lot of immersive journalism, a lot of self-experimentation, a lot of guinea pig type stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm not dead yet, and I still have my dick, so... | ||
| Oh, you look great. | ||
| I'm happy. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| You look very healthy. | ||
| I'm 22. Oh, there's a whole... | ||
| But I'm actually... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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That's... | |
| Is that... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that him? | ||
| That's one of them. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Yeah, that's an image from my website. | ||
| That's not as deep as it got. | ||
| I don't think that's the worst photo. | ||
| The worst one I've ever seen is Kevin Rambamann. | ||
| They have to stuff it with iodine. | ||
| Like, they... | ||
| Have you had it before? | ||
| No. | ||
| They have, like, these long iodine strips when you get the MRSA, and it's like... | ||
| It's flesh-eating bacteria. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that's me, too. | ||
| And they stuff, see that hole in the middle? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They stuff like an iodine, it's like a stick in there, like a strip that has, but they literally stuff it. | ||
| Stuff it in there, yeah. | ||
| And you can feel it. | ||
| You were telling me you got dry needling done. | ||
| You know like that weird pressure? | ||
| It's not like pain, but it's like a weird pressure from dry needling. | ||
| This is like that, except pain. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like it's both the pain and the pressure. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
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Horrible. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I've had some friends that have got staff in their leg where they have a small golf ball-sized hole in their leg, and they literally had a packet full of that kind of gauze covered in medicine. | ||
| I don't like how you say a small golf ball is a big hole for the back of the leg. | ||
| Yeah, that's a golf ball, but it's smaller than a golf ball. | ||
| They've got a large marble. | ||
| Any hole in the back of the leg, in my opinion, is too big. | ||
| The worst I've ever seen is Kevin Randleman. | ||
| See if you can find Kevin Randleman's staff. | ||
| He had open holes where you could see his muscle structure under his armpit. | ||
| It was horrific. | ||
| He never really recovered. | ||
| He wound up dying young. | ||
| He died? | ||
| He died young. | ||
| From that? | ||
| Who knows what he died from, but look at the hole. | ||
| I think I still have it. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| That's his muscle tissue. | ||
| That's Kevin Randleman. | ||
| What body part is that? | ||
| That's his underarm. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Yeah, that's how bad it was. | ||
| That looks like he got shot. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Yeah, he was rotting away. | ||
| And I don't know if he didn't treat it quick enough, or I don't know if it was just really aggressive, but it's a real common thing in gyms. | ||
| And once you get it, it stays with you, like it stays in your bloodstream. | ||
| I still have an essential oil diffuser on my desk, and I put thieves in it every day, and I just diffuse essential oils while I'm working into the air. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a nebulizing essential oil diffuser, just to play it safe. | ||
| I just want to be breathing that in during the day, just in case. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| And that's the other thing, is I stand in front of this light, this infrared light, What's this? | ||
| Dick light again? | ||
| It's a dick light. | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| It's called a juve. | ||
| They've done these studies on testicular and sperm production, and they've found that there's a wavelength that's like 600 to 800 nanometers wavelength of light. | ||
| That if you expose the testicles to that for 5 to 20 minutes a day, it's based on this concept of photobiomodulation. | ||
| So I originally got into this whole photobiomodulation thing when this company, because I blog and people just send me these weird things to my doorstep to try. | ||
| And they sent me this like nasal probe that you put up your nose and it's got like a helmet on it. | ||
| You could look it up, Jamie, if you want. | ||
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want. | |
| It's called a violet. | ||
| And it produces this light that supposedly activates a part of your mitochondria. | ||
| So you have like your electron transport chain in your mitochondria. | ||
| And there's a part of that called the cytochrome C oxidase. | ||
| And it apparently activates more activity in the cytochrome C oxidase. | ||
| You produce more ATP, in this case, in neural tissue, because you have it on your head. | ||
| And they were using this in dementia and in Alzheimer's patients. | ||
| But it turns out it's - Yes, that's me at my desk. - Whoa, and you got it up your nose? | ||
| - Back when I was a young Chinese woman working at my desk. - Up your nose, on your head. | ||
| I like how that guy's just looking pensively off into the wall. | ||
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This girl's reading a book. | |
| She's reading a book. | ||
| She's reading Twilight. | ||
| See, that's what I originally did. | ||
| They sent me just the nose one, and I felt shorted because they had the full head, so I asked them for the full head one. | ||
| This is so fucking weird. | ||
| I know, and you can feel it pulsing. | ||
| I think it was NPR. It was either Radiolab or... | ||
| What's the other science one? | ||
| I think it might be Radiolab. | ||
| They did a study or a story on this 10 to 40 hertz frequency. | ||
| Nine volt nirvana. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about it. | ||
| No, that's TDCS. Oh, that's right. | ||
| That's transdermal stimulation. | ||
| I have one of those, too. | ||
| The transdirect cranial stimulation. | ||
| That halo device that you wear before a workout. | ||
| You use that thing? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, it's one at a time. | ||
| We'll get to the halo thing. | ||
| One at a time. | ||
| So this photobiomodulation, I'm putting this thing, you know, the probe in my ear, and you're not even supposed to use it too much because it produces so much ATP that if you amp up cellular activity and neural tissue too much, you produce too many reactive oxygen species. | ||
| Like, that's a byproduct of cellular metabolism. | ||
| It's just like if you eat too much, you produce a lot of byproduct of making energy, and that's one of the reasons why fasting is good for you. | ||
| It cleans up the system and you don't make as many free radicals. | ||
| The same reason ketosis is good for you. | ||
| You're not burning as much glucose. | ||
| You don't produce as many free radicals. | ||
| Same concept with this. | ||
| You don't want to use it all the time because you get too much activity. | ||
| You produce too many free radicals or too many reactive oxygen species. | ||
| But every other day, you use it. | ||
| So, new year, new dick, how often did you use it? | ||
| Well, this was from my head. | ||
| And this was like a couple years ago. | ||
| But it's the same thing? | ||
| This was a couple years, and it was like a cup of coffee for my brain. | ||
| Like, every time I'd wake up, I'd put this thing on while I'm working at my desk. | ||
| So then, this company that makes these lights that are very similar activate cytochrome C oxidase, It activates release of nitric oxide, but if you do it on your testicles, specifically the cell that it works on is the latig cells in the testes, which are responsible for producing testosterone. | ||
| So you're basically stimulating the latig cells in the testes the same way that you'd stimulate neural tissue using this one for your head. | ||
| So I'd had success with the thing for my head, so I tried this one for the balls in the dick, and what I did was I would just jack my pants down. | ||
| For 5 to 20 minutes a day while I'm diffusing my essential oils and I got the thing on my head. | ||
| And it works. | ||
| Like you actually get more blood flow. | ||
| I mean, I didn't do a control study just pulling my pants down and standing there for 5 to 20 minutes without the light on. | ||
| I should do that at some point. | ||
| Because maybe it's just like the whole, you know, it's like supposedly going combat style is supposed to be good for your dick too. | ||
| Just going combat style? | ||
| So there's you. | ||
| Yeah, that's me. | ||
| Balls out. | ||
| Yeah, I'm standing on my wobble board. | ||
| I got my ball light. | ||
| And that's actually not my office. | ||
| That was at one of my friend's houses because he had one. | ||
| And anyways, obviously I'm not naked, but normally I would be nude. | ||
| And you just nuke your balls. | ||
| And you just basically nuke your balls. | ||
| And what was the effect? | ||
| It's like a warm teddy bear. | ||
| Increased vascularity, better size, better orgasms. | ||
| I mean, like all this stuff seemed to have a... | ||
| So all this stuff seems to make your dick bigger and work better. | ||
| It had some kind of an effect, yeah. | ||
| So PRP injections, acoustic sound wave therapy, stem cells, the infrared light, the gas station dick pills, and that's the one I would not repeat. | ||
| And then they had me do some Ayurvedic stuff, like the no ejaculation thing, which is horrible, like where you have sex, but you pull out. | ||
| And you squeeze it. | ||
| It's a book. | ||
| It's called The Multi-Orgasmic Men. | ||
| So I read that and learned how to pull back, not actually orgasm. | ||
| And you pull it inside and then you finish up and you're just pissed off the rest of the day. | ||
| You can't sleep at night because you're all... | ||
| So you could see how it would work. | ||
| But for me, it's like, I got kids, and my wife and I sneak away to get it on. | ||
| Like, I want the full meal deal. | ||
| So I didn't like that, the no-ejaculation, reverse-orgasm thing. | ||
| What's it supposed to do? | ||
| Like, when you internalize the orgasm, when you keep it inside? | ||
| So this is all based on Chinese medicine principles. | ||
| I think it's called your jinn, or your jing, or something like that. | ||
| You have this energy, your chi, your prana, your chakra, your life force, and apparently orgasming is and coming, like ejaculating, is supposedly one of the ways that you give some of that life force away. | ||
| Like you release some of your vitality and by having sex but then not coming, you're actually creating that same hormonal response of oxytocin and testosterone and all these things that we release when we're having sex or when we ejaculate but without actually giving up that vitality, that life force. | ||
| I found tables where based on your age, there's a certain frequency with which you're supposed to ejaculate. | ||
| The younger you are, it's like every two days, every three days, and the older you get, it gets to a certain point where you're 70 years old and it's like every month or something like that. | ||
| And so it's kind of interesting. | ||
| But again, I don't like that. | ||
| I want to finish. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if that's a preconceived prejudice that you have, though. | ||
| Like, I wonder if you just went into it, like, completely objectively, if it would have some sort of a benefit. | ||
| Or maybe you just get, like, mineral depleted and you lose all your zinc and everything else you need to make sperm and you start to cramp up. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| To me, you'd have to be ejaculating a lot, I think. | ||
| So when you were doing all these different things, how much of a buffer did you give yourself in between each thing? | ||
| It was not a well-controlled experiment at all. | ||
| It was like three months of just like, hey, why don't we try this? | ||
| Hey, the article's coming out soon. | ||
| We should toss this in there, too. | ||
| So they probably compounded. | ||
| It was not a well-controlled experiment, and I did a lot over three months. | ||
| It would have been a lot better to just try one thing at a time. | ||
| I would be so nervous. | ||
| But I am well-hung and very vascular now for the whole experiment. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| So yeah, it's called New Year New Dick. | ||
| And it really did make your dick bigger. | ||
| So do you think there's any hope out there asking for a friend? | ||
| Guys who have micro dicks? | ||
| What's a micro dick? | ||
| Guys who have really small penises. | ||
| I would imagine there's hope. | ||
| I'm sure they could be great politicians. | ||
| Influential it says that there's got to be some kind of trade-off, right? | ||
| Ferrari salesman. | ||
| It's like if you have sickle cell anemia, apparently it protects you from malaria. | ||
| I mean, if you have a small dick, it protects you from some kind of horrible accident later on in life. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I just wonder, like, if there's a way to fix that in people, if maybe this is the way. | ||
| I've always felt like that's got to be one of the saddest things. | ||
| Again, you never know. | ||
| There could be a bunch of 90-year-old men walking around with dick cancer 60 years from now who heard this and all went and got injected. | ||
| So I will not attest to the safety of it, but I can attest to the efficacy of it. | ||
| Maybe some of those things would work for all those people walking around there, all of your listeners with small dicks. | ||
| Gave them salvation. | ||
| There's hope, fellas. | ||
| There's hope. | ||
| What scares me, though, is that... | ||
| You're saying it still works. | ||
| How long ago did you do this experiment? | ||
| Oh, I mean, like, the magazine is still on the shelves. | ||
| Like, it just came out. | ||
| Okay, but how long? | ||
| This was, like, several months ago, right? | ||
| This was, like, starting, I got the stem cells extracted in August of 2017. So this is, like, the end of January. | ||
| And then eight weeks later, I got those shot into the dick. | ||
| So we're only dealing with a couple months. | ||
| Six months later, after they'd really grown a lot of these mesenchymal stem cells, I got them injected into my bloodstream and into, like, that injury that I'm fighting in my back right now. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| And I'd done some other things before that for the back and for tissue, like peptides, like this BPC-157. | ||
| That we were just talking about before the show. | ||
| Yeah, which is really interesting stuff. | ||
| I mean, it's not intended for human consumption, but it's also not banned by WADA. I mean, actually, it's legal to use, and it's a peptide. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's called Body Protection Compound, BPC-157. | ||
| And the 157 refers to like the sequence of amino acids that makes up the actual compound. | ||
| But you can buy it and reconstitute it. | ||
| And then if you inject it into an area, and it doesn't even have to be like a painful intramuscular injection. | ||
| It can be like a subcutaneous injection. | ||
| BPC supposedly stimulates angiogenesis, and it's a natural compound. | ||
| You find it in the human gut. | ||
| So they took this same thing that helps to heal the human gut, which is why if you were to consume this in drinking water, supposedly, and this is in rodent models, it apparently works to heal up an inflamed gut, you know, colitis, IBD, IBS, stuff like that. | ||
| But you can inject it into a joint or subcutaneously into an area around a joint. | ||
| And it supposedly stimulates the, I feel like this is a repetitive phrase on this show, the growth of new blood vessels. | ||
| So angiogenesis. | ||
| And then there's another one called TB500 that they use in racehorses. | ||
| Thymosin beta, that one is banned by WADA. But similar principle except that one acts on the actin and myosin fibers. | ||
| And actually causes regeneration of those. | ||
| So you could do both and you get angiogenesis and then also fiber regrowth. | ||
| And that's a strategy that would be like pennies on the dollar compared to stem cells. | ||
| And also, you know, a far less intensive procedure in terms of like collecting your stem cells. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| And then there's... | ||
| So there's the fat for the stem cells. | ||
| And from what I understand... | ||
| If you're going after the anti-aging effect, the bone is better. | ||
| Like a bone marrow. | ||
| So I had my bone marrow extracted at this place called Forever Labs in Berkeley, California. | ||
| And they store that. | ||
| And then what I can do is I can just inject the 35-year-old me into my body. | ||
| Every year or every five years or whenever I want to put that back in. | ||
| So I've got bone marrow and fat marrow stored. | ||
| Let me stop you there real quick. | ||
| So they take the bone marrow and how do they have enough to just keep going? | ||
| Do they somehow replicate it? | ||
| I don't know the protocol that used to grow the stem. | ||
| Like I know the fat one, they use like a collagenase procedure that enzymatically breaks down the collagen from the fat and somehow concentrates the stem cells. | ||
| And you can actually grow them. | ||
| Like you can actually multiply them. | ||
| I'm assuming it's something similar for bone. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| And the bone would be more for, like, longevity and anti-aging, and then the fat would be more for joints. | ||
| I know a lot of people got the bone marrow done for injuries. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's supposed to be very painful. | ||
| Was it painful for you when they extracted the bone? | ||
| Not compared to the dick injections. | ||
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| Nah, it's all relative. | ||
| But I've been obstacle course racing, and I was a triathlete before that and did bodybuilding, so I've always done all this masochistic shit. | ||
| So I think my pain tolerance is high. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| The bone marrow didn't hurt that much, no. | ||
| They numb it, they go in. | ||
| The dick one was where there was that weird pressure, a little bit of pain. | ||
| I would say that the iodine packing into the staph infection that we were talking about, that was up there. | ||
| Well, Daniel Cormier, UFC light heavyweight champion, had it done. | ||
| With the bone marrow and he was telling me it was painful as hell. | ||
| He's about as tough a human being as they get. | ||
| You mean getting injected or getting taken out? | ||
| No, just getting extracted. | ||
| I mean, it's a big needle. | ||
| He was limping around himself for a while. | ||
| When I did the stem cell injections, that was cool because they used a digital thermography. | ||
| It's like an ultrasound. | ||
| It's like what you would use to look at a baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you can see the tissue. | ||
| You can see the areas where there's swelling or there's like a black area where the tissue is torn up or where there's edema or inflammation. | ||
| And you can, and he showed me the video after he did all the injections. | ||
| You can see the needle going into the... | ||
| You can micro-target exactly, exactly where you want to put the cells. | ||
| Yeah, I've done it. | ||
| So it's a very, very cool procedure. | ||
| I've done it and watched. | ||
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| Did they use that, the thermography? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a cool procedure. | ||
| Have you ever done Regenikine? | ||
| No. | ||
| Are you aware of it? | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| It's one of the things that a lot of pro athletes are going to Germany to get done. | ||
| It's a form of platelet-rich plasma where they heat it up. | ||
| And by heating up the plasma, it produces this radical anti-inflammatory property. | ||
| It's like they extract it into this yellow serum. | ||
| They spin it in a centrifuge. | ||
| So if you're going to get it done, I've had it done on that. | ||
| How is that different than just normal PRP? It's more powerful. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Because it's heated up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I've done PRP before. | ||
| Yeah, I have as well. | ||
| I mean, obviously I'm not a doctor, but according to these doctors that do it, and there's a place in Santa Monica that does it called Lifespan Medicine. | ||
| I've had it done there. | ||
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| Yeah, for the longest time you had to go to Germany. | ||
| Dana White flew to Germany to get it done. | ||
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Why, because it was illegal in the US? Yes, they hadn't approved it yet. | |
| Interesting. | ||
| I'm going over to Venice Beach. | ||
| I'm going to be down by there. | ||
| I'm going to these cats at that place I was talking about, the Human Garage. | ||
| That's an interesting place. | ||
| If you really want to talk to the guy who does it, my friend Dr. Ben Ruhi is the guy who performs the procedures down there. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He would love to talk to you, too. | ||
| Yeah, cool. | ||
| You'd get a kick out of it. | ||
| It's pretty interesting. | ||
| I'm sure someday I'll run out of stuff to inject into joints, but for now... | ||
| For me, it really helped me heal a bulging disc in my neck. | ||
| Really? | ||
| They go right into the spinal cord. | ||
| It's great for people that have pretty serious neck injuries and back injuries. | ||
| Have you tried this thing? | ||
| I think it's Peticon is the company that makes it, but it's like a neck traction device. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I have one of those. | ||
| So I have that and a yoga trapeze. | ||
| I saw the yoga trapeze in your Instagram. | ||
| Yeah, I'll hang by the neck. | ||
| I do this when I get up. | ||
| I get up and I put a bunch of magnesium on my neck and my back to relax all the tissue. | ||
| And once you get really relaxed, I have this vibrator. | ||
| It's like a car buffer for your body. | ||
| So you can vibrate your neck and your back and you get really, really relaxed. | ||
| And it's perfect for doing your own deep tissue therapy. | ||
| But it vibrates. | ||
| So I'll do that on my body and I go hang from this neck thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you get all these pops up and down your neck, and it apparently realigns the atlas and the axis and some of the cervical vertebrae, and there's probably a bunch of chiropractic docs who are really pissed off right now because I'm describing this incorrectly, but it feels amazing. | ||
| It just adjusts everything. | ||
| And then I hang from the yoga trapeze. | ||
| Well, what it definitely does is decompress. | ||
| It definitely decompresses your... | ||
| I don't know about all that other nonsense, but it definitely... | ||
| It's stretching out those muscles and alleviating some of the stress that comes from bad posture. | ||
| And for me, it was a lot of grappling. | ||
| Getting your neck cranked and squished and resisting things all the time. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's kind of similar to traction. | ||
| And I've really been getting into that. | ||
| Have you heard of ELDOA? E-L-D-O-A? No. | ||
| It's like a form of stretching where I actually had a guy come to my house for two days and he stayed in my basement and we wake up. | ||
| I've done this a few times. | ||
| I'll have people come over to me and just like teach. | ||
| There's another guy who mashes, like use a walker and just like mash up and down your body. | ||
| But this is El Doa. | ||
| So El Doa, you'll like push a joint out this way, and then out this way, and then your feet will be splayed in both directions. | ||
| There's like 20 different poses that you do, but it's a form of self-traction. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| It's similar to like if you were to use a monster band to traction a joint. | ||
| Have you ever done that? | ||
| Like traction to your hip where you'll tie a monster band around your hip and then attach it to... | ||
| I have not. | ||
| No, but I've seen people do it. | ||
| Yeah, like kind of pulls the joint apart. | ||
| Yeah, that's El Doa. | ||
| Is that Adam from Mind Pump? | ||
| Is that the mind pump video? | ||
| I think that's my buddy Adam. | ||
| It says spinal health, LDOA, E-L-O-D-O-A. Yeah, so that's one of the ones I do in the morning. | ||
| That's L5-S1. So they all work on a specific part of the back or part of the body. | ||
| Let me say it again. | ||
| E-L-D-O-A. LDOA, L-O-A. I forget what it stands for. | ||
| It was invented by this guy named Guy Voyer, a French guy. | ||
| And... | ||
| Dude, you feel amazing. | ||
| You hold these poses for like a minute and it introduces a bunch of new blood flow to the joint. | ||
| See how he's doing that? | ||
| He'll like put his hand up and traction the fascia. | ||
| And so he's getting this intense pull. | ||
| If you were to do this, you get this intense pull on your back. | ||
| I do this one so I could show it to you after. | ||
| But you feel amazing. | ||
| I do this when I wake up now. | ||
| Who invented all this stuff? | ||
| This goes back. | ||
| This is like some French guy invented it. | ||
| And... | ||
| I don't remember how I heard about it, but I interviewed this guy named Jacob Schoen on my podcast, and he taught me all these moves and came to my house. | ||
| And it's another one of those really cool forms of stretching. | ||
| How often do you do yoga? | ||
| I have a sauna. | ||
| Do you ever do like an infrared sauna? | ||
| No, we have a regular sauna. | ||
| I use like a near-far infrared sauna. | ||
| And I go in there because your tissue gets very pliable and hot. | ||
| So I had a crane drop a 19-foot endless pool out in the forest back behind my house in Spokane. | ||
| And I keep this thing just like super-duper cold, right? | ||
| So it's like 45, 50 degrees. | ||
| So that's like my cryotherapy cold water immersion. | ||
| How do you keep it that cold? | ||
| Well, during the winter and the fall, it just stays that cold. | ||
| I just keep the lid off. | ||
| And then during the summer when I'm coming back home and I'm going by the gas station up the hill before my house, I stop and I buy ice bags and I just dump them in there. | ||
| So it stays relatively cold. | ||
| And what I do in the mornings when I'm home is I do this sauna. | ||
| And he asked about yoga. | ||
| I go in there, and this is when I do a lot of this stuff, right? | ||
| Like I'll do some of my yoga moves, some of my aldoa. | ||
| There's another really good form of stretching called core foundation, a doc named Eric Goodman, and it's like a form of decompression for the spine. | ||
| He works with a lot of athletes. | ||
| It kind of like turns on your glutes, decompresses your spine. | ||
| So I just use a mashup of all these little moves, and I'll be in my sauna for like 30 minutes. | ||
| So I'm producing all the heat shock proteins, I'm getting the nitric oxide, getting the blood flow, and you just feel good when you do the sauna. | ||
| So I get all sweaty, and I get kind of woo-woo, I'll sprinkle essential oils in there, and I'll burn like Palo Santo incense and put on... | ||
| You burn incense inside the sauna? | ||
| Put on beets, yeah, it smells really nice. | ||
| You put on beets? | ||
| Like binaural beets? | ||
| Yeah, like binaural beets. | ||
| So there's this guy named Michael Tyrell, and he makes these CDs and these tracks that... | ||
| Even when you said his name, you lowered your voice. | ||
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Michael Tyrell. | |
| Michael Tyrell. | ||
| Makes these amazing tracks. | ||
| And they vibrate at specific hertz frequencies, right? | ||
| There's this whole idea that your root chakra, your fourth chakra, your heart chakra vibrates at 528 hertz. | ||
| And there's different hertz frequencies associated with different positive aspects of your... | ||
| It's this... | ||
| It's like a chakra. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But is that bullshit? | ||
| I mean, have you tried to debunk any of that? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I feel really good. | ||
| If I feel good, I'm going to try to debunk it. | ||
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I just do it. | |
| Why not? | ||
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Yeah, why not? | |
| Are you doing this with headsets on? | ||
| No, the sauna has surround speakers. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And so I play that through the speakers. | ||
| No Bluetooth and no Wi-Fi, Jamie. | ||
| It's just like my little shitty little iPod shuffle that I plug in and play. | ||
| And so I play that while I'm in the sauna and I'm doing all my moves. | ||
| And then I walk out of my house, go through my office, walk through the forest, and I go and jump in the pool. | ||
| And I'll just like swim in there for like 50 yards. | ||
| It's not that far. | ||
| So you just jump one to the other? | ||
| Do you go back and forth? | ||
| No, it's too much to go back and forth. | ||
| I've got to keep things somewhat, because this is getting kind of complex between the light and the balls and the essential oils. | ||
| You've got to draw the line somewhere. | ||
| Sometimes I'll have friends over and we'll vape or we'll smoke in the sauna and then we'll go out to the pool and then go roll around in the snow, then get back in the pool, then go back in the sauna. | ||
| I do this, and my wife is inside making dinner, and we just feel amazing. | ||
| We got the hot, we got the cold, and then we go in and we eat dinner. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's my favorite thing to do with my friends. | ||
| But in the morning, I do the sauna, and then the ice, or the cold pool, and then I finish with a quick dip in the hot tub out in the trees, because I put a hot tub next to the cold pool. | ||
| And everything's like super clean. | ||
| You know, it's clean with ozone and minerals instead of chlorine. | ||
| And so you just feel really, really clean. | ||
| And then I walk in and start my day. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So I do yoga. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's in the sauna. | ||
| Well, it sounds like you're just stretching. | ||
| You're not doing like the strengthening poses. | ||
| No, I do actual like... | ||
| Well, what do you mean? | ||
| Like standing bow poses. | ||
| Like warrior one, warrior two, warrior three. | ||
| Like... | ||
| Like standing bow pose, head to knee pose, like very strenuous. | ||
| I'm not doing like old person yoga. | ||
| I do the legit shit. | ||
| Listen, I know you're a fit guy. | ||
| I'm not questioning your fitness. | ||
| I do a headstand. | ||
| I'm just wondering what you're doing actually in the sauna. | ||
| Yeah, I make it up as I go. | ||
| Just based on how you feel? | ||
| Well, I was speaking in, that's why I'm down here, I was speaking in Costa Mesa a couple days ago, and there was like this banquet dinner as part of the event, and I was sitting next to this guy, and I'm like, well, what do you do for your fitness routine, et cetera? | ||
| He does Bikram yoga every day, but like the Bikram yoga, like all of the poses that are part of Bikram yoga, because it's a set series of routines. | ||
| You've done Bikram before? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's like 90 minutes, and he does that every single day. | ||
| I did it nine days in a row. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, he's been doing it for like eight years every day. | ||
| I'm impressed because we did it. | ||
| We did Sober October. | ||
| We had to do 15 of them in a month, me and a bunch of my friends. | ||
| I wanted to burn it out. | ||
| So the last nine days, well, I had a few days to go, but for nine days, I just said, let me just get these out of the way. | ||
| And every day I did 90 minutes and it was like, wow. | ||
| But it's interesting because you realize that your body can do that. | ||
| It is. | ||
| You just force it. | ||
| I don't like to overdo it, though, because it's static stretching, and we know that can decrease force potential. | ||
| It can decrease power production if you become too pliable, too flexible. | ||
| Isn't that the case, though, pre-workout? | ||
| Well, it's the case pre-workout, but chronically, if you elongate tissue, and I don't know if they've actually done any studies on people who have done yoga for a really long time and compared their vertical jump before and after... | ||
| But I just feel almost too stretchy if I get too into it. | ||
| Like, I feel like when I run, it's a little bit more like Gumby running versus limiting the amount of yoga that I do. | ||
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That's weird. | |
| That's interesting. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It's not a good idea. | ||
| Right, like prior to things like squats or something like that. | ||
| It was like when the lights went out during the Super Bowl a few years ago, you remember that? | ||
| And you could see on TV, both teams were just like standing on the sidelines or sitting on the sidelines doing these long hamstring static stretches. | ||
| And I wondered why they were doing that, because they were about to get back in and engage in a very powerful explosive sport. | ||
| So yeah, it's dynamic stretching, definitely, prior to forced production activities. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder why they're doing... | ||
| Maybe they just have really old-school trainers or something like that that are not aware. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or maybe they just do it on their own. | ||
| Before I do that isometric training for power production, I've got two things. | ||
| I bought this stuff called Nose Torque on Amazon. | ||
| You heard of this stuff? | ||
| Nose Torque. | ||
| It's like smelling salts on steroids. | ||
| No. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, a power lifter told me about it. | ||
| And he would sniff it before he'll go like, you know, rip a 700-pound bar off the ground. | ||
| And you snort that you open up the cap on this stuff. | ||
| And it's just like releasing a wild animal into the room. | ||
| So you release the cap. | ||
| It's like smelling salts on steroids. | ||
| And you just want to go kill somebody or fight somebody. | ||
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Really? | |
| What is it called? | ||
| It's called Nose Torque or Nose Turk. | ||
| Torque. | ||
| It's something like that, like nose torque. | ||
| T-O-R-K. T-O-R-K, yeah, there you go. | ||
| And so I do that, and then the other one that I just made, you can buy this for like pennies on the dollar on Amazon. | ||
| You can get these essential oil inhalers. | ||
| So here's some guy just smelled it. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| He can't even get it near his face. | ||
| He's got it way up. | ||
| It's hard, like it packs a bunch. | ||
| But what is it supposed to do? | ||
| Did he just do it, or is he getting ready to do it? | ||
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He just opened it up. | |
| It's like smelling, it's ammonia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know chemically. | ||
| I would imagine it just puts your sympathetic nervous system into overdrive when you sniff all that ammonia. | ||
| He's being really ginger. | ||
| He's like, oh! | ||
| I've done it with some of my friends at restaurants. | ||
| I carry it around sometimes. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| You bring it to a restaurant? | ||
| I have smelt my bouquets, actually. | ||
| You can smell it. | ||
| Go get it. | ||
| Right now? | ||
| You want to sniff it right now? | ||
| Yeah, let's do it on air. | ||
| All right, let's do it. | ||
| Nose torque. | ||
| It's out in the car. | ||
| Oh, it's in the car. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We'll do it after. | ||
| It would be boring podcasting. | ||
| Plus, if people really want to try it, they can just buy it on Amazon. | ||
| So it jacks your system up and excites you and allows you to... | ||
| So they should be on the field doing that before they... | ||
| I don't know if I would recommend that. | ||
| There'd probably be some guys like nosebleeds and heart attacks. | ||
| The other one is peppermint. | ||
| Have you ever used peppermint oil? | ||
| And they've done studies on this, on peppermint oil and athletic performance. | ||
| And what I have is this little, it looks like a little tampon. | ||
| You can buy these on Amazon. | ||
| They're called aromatherapy inhalers. | ||
| And it's like this little cotton wick. | ||
| And you put essential oil on the cotton wick, right? | ||
| So it absorbs into the wick. | ||
| And then you put the cap on, and you can carry this around in the gym in your pocket. | ||
| Or I play tennis on Wednesday nights, so I bring it to my tennis matches. | ||
| And while I'm playing tennis, I'll stop sometimes and sniff this thing. | ||
| Kind of say like awake and alert. | ||
| And dude, it's just peppermint. | ||
| It's just peppermint, but it has this amazing effect. | ||
| It's like this wakefulness promoting effect. | ||
| Wow, peppermint. | ||
| Yeah, peppermint's amazing. | ||
| If you get bloating or gas, you can smear that around your stomach and it makes it go away. | ||
| It goes through your skin? | ||
| It's one of my favorite oils to use, yeah. | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| It gets absorbed through the skin. | ||
| I mean, you know this, the skin is a mouth. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, it gets all the way into your internal organs? | ||
| I don't know if it actually goes into the actual stomach, like through the epithelial lining and into the actual intestine, but it has an effect, for sure. | ||
| You know what I just started using recently is topical CBD. I got some topical CBD and like a roll-on, almost like a deodorant roll-on kind of a thing. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, CBD, there's one... | ||
| I use this stuff called BioCBD, and it's turmeric or curcumin with CBD. And yeah, it's the same thing. | ||
| It's like a topical. | ||
| They also do THC, like THC roll-ons. | ||
| Yeah, they do that now. | ||
| Speaking of the sexual performance thing, you can actually buy like THC sex lube. | ||
| And I mean, it's like a high for your crotch. | ||
| Literally, you apply it locally, and it's like your crotch gets a high. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| You can do the same thing with these little coconut oil, THC suppository. | ||
| Well, they're not suppository. | ||
| They're meant for swallowing in the mouth. | ||
| That's a normal route of delivery. | ||
| But you can shove them up your butt like 30 or 40 minutes before you have sex. | ||
| And you actually get like this amazing high for your crotch. | ||
| That's just like these THC coconut oil capsules. | ||
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| How'd you find out about that? | ||
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Just shove it up your butt and take notes. | |
| They have actual bath salts. | ||
| Not bath salts like the drug, but the stuff that you put in the bath now that's THC. Really? | ||
| Yeah, they're doing everything out here now. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| They've gone hog wild because it's basically legal. | ||
| Out here, you mean like California? | ||
| Well, Colorado and Washington as well. | ||
| Yeah, Washington's legal. | ||
| But the guy that I get... | ||
| My stuff from California just started giving me this stuff to put in the bath. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's like, you've got to be careful, though, because you can get way too high in your bath. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| Your skin is with your pores. | ||
| Yeah, you're literally just bathing in it. | ||
| People bathe in wine in these fancy spas. | ||
| They what? | ||
| They bathe in wine? | ||
| They have wine baths, yeah. | ||
| There's this place I go to in New York City. | ||
| It's called Are Spa, A-I-R-E. And they have one of the options to go there. | ||
| You can just take a bath in wine. | ||
| That sounds so like Caligula. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I was like, bring me the wine and a few virgins and some feed me grapes. | ||
| She's taking a drip of it. | ||
| This bath is full of wine. | ||
| Oh, that's so strange. | ||
| That's kind of cheesy, though. | ||
| She looks like a news anchor. | ||
| Yeah, she does. | ||
| Yeah, this is like for... | ||
| Oh, she's eating grapes. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| I called it the grapes. | ||
| Yeah, it's actually a cool spa. | ||
| I've never done the wine bath. | ||
| That sounds like you'd get really fucked up. | ||
| I don't know if you'd get drunk from the wine. | ||
| I don't know if it would actually wind up in your... | ||
| But they use antioxidant-rich Tempranillo grapes. | ||
| Well, how could you not get some sort of absorption? | ||
| I'm sure you would get something. | ||
| One of the things about the sensory deprivation tank is that through the Epsom salts, your body absorbs a lot of magnesium. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I like the magnesium chloride, like using actual magnesium. | ||
| And I like that because you can get it for, I mean, that's what they use to melt ice. | ||
| Like, you can just buy this stuff. | ||
| Oh, like rock salt? | ||
| Yeah, I know you guys don't melt a lot of ice in California, but, like, in Washington State, you can buy magnesium chloride, but, like, a freaking, like, concrete-sized bag, a concrete-mixed-sized bag of it, and it's the same stuff that they sell on these expensive websites as, like, magnesium salts. | ||
| It's just magnesium chloride. | ||
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| And you can dump that in your... | ||
| You get way more magnesium than you get from Epsom salts. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| And that's really what you want, is the magnesium. | ||
| Like, that's displacing the calcium, that's producing the relaxing effect, that's, you know, it's... | ||
| Maybe I should add that to my tank. | ||
| Magnesium? | ||
| Yeah, because I've already got the Epsom salts in there. | ||
| I'd like to ask first to make sure it's not going to mess up the... | ||
| Is there like a filtration mechanism on the tank? | ||
| Yeah, there's a pretty heavy filtration system, but it filters out the Epsom salts. | ||
| I have an idea for float tanks. | ||
| You want to hear my idea? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's why you're here. | ||
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I just get... | |
| I get really bored in float tanks. | ||
| Do you? | ||
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| Do you ever go in with edibles? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the move. | ||
| Go in with edibles. | ||
| You would not be bored. | ||
| I've only done it three times, every time in Austin, Texas, and it's always been like I've been with my wife. | ||
| A lot of people do it with ketamine, don't they? | ||
| Yeah, that's the guy who invented it. | ||
| John Lilly's method. | ||
| Yeah, I have an edible that I make at home with Kratom, which is an opioid-like painkiller. | ||
| That's freaking amazing. | ||
| It induces this euphoria-like high. | ||
| And then I add CBD, THC, copaiba oil. | ||
| Have you ever heard of this? | ||
| No. | ||
| Copaiba oil acts on the endocannabinoid receptors very similarly to THC and CBD, but it has what's called like an entourage effect. | ||
| Meaning it enhances the effects of CBD and THC. So like if you're vaping, you can add like a couple drops of oil over the top of the herb. | ||
| Or you can mix it into like an edible. | ||
| Is this those sleep cakes that you make? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| My sister accidentally took one last week and said she had the best night of sleep of her life. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And I don't travel with them because they just smell like you just open up a whoop-ass can full of weed. | ||
| So you don't want those in the bow case when you're traveling. | ||
| All the dogs. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Every dog. | ||
| There's a whole line of dogs following me through the airport running like O.J. Simpson. | ||
| Anyways, though, the mix I use is coconut oil and ghee and dark chocolate and a little bit of stevia. | ||
| I have this butterscotch toffee stevia. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I travel everywhere. | ||
| I put it in sparkling water. | ||
| I put it in coffee. | ||
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| It's like an organic butterscotch toffee stevia. | ||
| Where are you getting that? | ||
| I'm addicted to it. | ||
| It's a company called Omica Organics. | ||
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High spot? | |
| I get a three-pack. | ||
| O-M-I-C-A. I get it off Amazon. | ||
| It's a vanilla, butterscotch toffee, and plain. | ||
| If you want to sweeten something, but you don't want those extra flavors, best stevia ever. | ||
| So I put all this in the edible, and I have this countertop immersion blender called Magical Butter Machine. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And you blend this, and it blends on top of your counter for like eight hours, and all this stuff mixes together, and then you pour it into molds, and you can just put it in the freezer, and then I keep it in these little Miran glass jars so it doesn't degrade, and it's just like the best edible ever. | ||
| So I should try some before a float tank sometime. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But return to my float tank idea. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I get these ideas when I'm in the float tank. | ||
| And I want to, and usually it's like 5 or 10 minutes in. | ||
| So I spend the next 50 minutes trying to remember, like, don't forget this, don't forget. | ||
| And I try like these little mnemonic techniques where you imagine like, you know, like an image of what you remembered is waiting for you outside the door as soon as you open the float tank. | ||
| So it might work for you to remember. | ||
| But basically it just kind of screws up my whole ability to be able to just like let thoughts come and go and relax. | ||
| So my idea is this. | ||
| Why not have some kind of a recorder? | ||
| Yeah, I thought of that already. | ||
| Like a digital recorder. | ||
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You thought it was already? | |
| Voice-activated recording. | ||
| You can get those. | ||
| Shit, I thought I was the first one to think of this. | ||
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Glue it to the wall. | |
| No. | ||
| Screw it. | ||
| I've been doing that forever. | ||
| So like a voice-activated recorder? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you have one? | ||
| No, I never did because... | ||
| And then you walk out and you just get an mp3 playback. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whatever you thought of. | ||
| I've been trying to figure out what a good one would be and how to set it up in there with all the salt and not have it degrade. | ||
| But I think what you could do... | ||
| You could just figure it out. | ||
| This is my thought. | ||
| My thought is a Velcro, like a Velcro patch, slap it in when you go in there and then activate it. | ||
| You ever see those voice-activated ones with the red light kicks on? | ||
| I've seen voice-activated recorders, yeah. | ||
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I don't want the red light, though. | |
| That's why I'm thinking it would be super easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they make these LED, you know, they're like, you know, because when I travel, I don't like to get all the blue light in the hotel rooms and I'll unplug things. | ||
| I try to make the hotel room dark, right? | ||
| Because when you flip off the lights in a hotel room, it's just like freaking Vegas, right? | ||
| There's blue lights on the TV and stuff flashing, you know, all over the place. | ||
| So they make these, and I had it for a while. | ||
| I don't travel with it anymore, but it's like a black tape. | ||
| You can put over things that light up in a room. | ||
| You can just use something like that. | ||
| They're like LED light blockers. | ||
| It's like tape, basically. | ||
| But you just put it over the cover of anything that lights up. | ||
| You can use something like that on the digital recorder. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| We could sell this for millions of dollars. | ||
| Well, I think the digital-recorded thing is a really good idea, and someone needs to... | ||
| I need to. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It was my idea. | ||
| It was not your idea. | ||
| I'm sure I thought of it first. | ||
| When did you first start doing it? | ||
| Oh, I thought of this like two years ago. | ||
| I started in 2002. I got you, dude. | ||
| I've had one of them. | ||
| I've had a tank since 2002. Yeah. | ||
| I raced Ironman Triathlon for eight years and just got tons of sensory depth in the water just staring at that black line at the bottom of the pool. | ||
| It's hard for me to just get in water and relax and not feel like I have to swim. | ||
| I've never been able to get that relaxed. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So you associate water with the movement? | ||
| I associate water with swimming. | ||
| I get in water and I love water. | ||
| I free dive and I spearfish. | ||
| I read this book, Deep, by James Nestor. | ||
| Amazing book about all these cool things when you go down deep. | ||
| And he talks about how Olympic athletes are using this now to enhance their performance because your spleen compresses and you produce more erythropoietin, more red blood cells. | ||
| Same thing that you produce actually. | ||
| If you sauna, like if you do a workout and you get really hot and then you go in the sauna after, they've done studies on this and they found that 30 minutes of heat therapy after you've already gotten the body hot, you produce EPO the same as if you were to use the performance enhancing drug. | ||
| Yeah, that's interesting. | ||
| There was a study that just came out about cryotherapy, and this echoes something that Rhonda Patrick was saying, that if you do cryo, her advice was you should wait at least an hour after a workout before you do it and allow your body to have some sort of effect from the exercise. | ||
| But sauna, they're saying you should do almost immediately after. | ||
| So the idea with this, and there was a brand new study that just came out like three days ago where they showed that heat post-exercise enhanced the effects of exercise, whereas cold blunted the hormetic response to exercise, which makes sense. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| Inside of a window, though. | ||
| It's a window of time. | ||
| So the deal is you don't want to blunt the hormetic response to exercise. | ||
| High-dose antioxidants, cryotherapy, cold immersion, all of that can do this. | ||
| That's a problem with fighters, because a lot of fighters are getting into cold immersion immediately after workouts. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So they should wait at least two hours. | ||
| So you'd want to wait until later on in the day. | ||
| How many hours do you think? | ||
| There's no research on the amount of time. | ||
| For me, what I do, same thing when I do a hard afternoon workout. | ||
| I wait a couple hours afterwards because you get a bigger testosterone and growth hormone response when you wait after workout to eat. | ||
| Actually, Mark Sisson was the first guy who told me about this, and it turns out that there actually is a better hormonal response when you fast post-exercise. | ||
| Same thing with antioxidants. | ||
| There are a couple exceptions I can tell you about. | ||
| Same thing with cryotherapy. | ||
| Now, at the same time, if you finish up a hard afternoon or especially like an early evening workout, you have a very high body temperature. | ||
| So my theory is that a brief dose of cold, like I'll jump in the cold pool and get out, not a full, just enough to decrease the core body temperature, which is one of the ways that you enhance deep sleep cycles. | ||
| So I also sleep on this thing called a chili pad that circulates like cold water underneath my body while I'm asleep. | ||
| Kelly Starrett sent me one of those things. | ||
| Yeah, and the cool thing is like your partner can put their temperature on and I can put my temperature on and you can sleep at whatever temp you want. | ||
| So I sleep with this thing. | ||
| Doesn't it make noise now? | ||
| At 55 degrees. | ||
| Yeah, but it's like background noise. | ||
| I sleep with all these binaural beats and everything. | ||
| I use this thing called Sleepstream. | ||
| It's like a DJ for sleep. | ||
| So I put my phone in airplane mode and then I have these noise blocking headphones. | ||
| And if you're a side sleeper, you can use these things called sleep phones, which is like a headband that goes around your head. | ||
| Anyways, though, back to the not doing the cold after exercise. | ||
| So you wait a little while, but I think decreasing the body's core temperature is good. | ||
| So like a cold shower. | ||
| Cold water immersion also beats out cryotherapy. | ||
| Beats out. | ||
| Yeah, it's actually more. | ||
| And there was a study they did last month on this that cold water immersion was very effective in reducing post-workout muscle soreness and that inflammatory response to exercise compared to cryotherapy. | ||
| But again, you should wait a little bit before you do it. | ||
| You should wait a little bit before you do it, but I think part of that is due to you get like this hydrostatic pressure of water against the skin, right? | ||
| So it kind of pushes the cold against the skin a little bit better. | ||
| And then the other reason is that when your head gets wet, when your head goes under, you know, same thing as you would get with a cold shower, you get like this mammalian dive reflex, right? | ||
| Like that sharp... | ||
| Intake of breath, and that activates your vagus nerve. | ||
| So we talked about HRV and heart rate variability tracking. | ||
| Anytime you do something like that, that improves the tone of the vagus nerve, you would actually improve your ability to recover and improve the strength of your nervous system. | ||
| Vagal nerve stimulators and they've looked into like chanting, humming, singing, jaw, they call it jaw realignment therapy, apparently removes the pressure that the trigeminal nerve can place on the vagus nerve. | ||
| There's all these things you can do to enhance the health It's a vagus nerve. | ||
| And that's one of the things that improves your HRV or your heart rate variability. | ||
| It allows your sympathetic and your parasympathetic nervous system to be more balanced. | ||
| But when you're saying tone, what do you mean by that? | ||
| The tone of the nerve, it would basically be synonymous with the health of the nerve. | ||
| I don't know if it's changing the myelin sheaths of the nerve or something like that when you're increasing the tone of the nerve. | ||
| More or less, it's healthy for the vagus nerve when you get your head wet or underwater. | ||
| So when I go in my cold pool after workout, I put my head under and then come up like five or ten times just to go up and down and up and down. | ||
| Then I get out. | ||
| And if I'm going to do a longer cold soak, it's not right after workout. | ||
| The two studies I found on antioxidant use after workout, right? | ||
| High-dose antioxidant like vitamin C, vitamin E, etc. | ||
| That supposedly blunts the hormetic response to exercise. | ||
| But there was one study that shows that green tea polyphenols don't do that. | ||
| So green tea would allow you to fight off the inflammatory effects of exercise without blunting, for example, satellite cell proliferation or building of new mitochondria or all of the things that you want to happen in response to a workout. | ||
| So only green tea? | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| And the other one was, and this is a new thing, not a lot of people are talking about this now, but it's like hydrogen-rich compounds. | ||
| They call it hydrogen-rich water. | ||
| And there's these companies now, there's like four or five of them, they sell these tablets that you can dissolve in water. | ||
| And there's the Molecular Hydrogen Foundation. | ||
| They do research on this hydrogen. | ||
| They don't have a financial affiliation with any of these companies, so I respect some of the research that they do. | ||
| And they've found that it actually blunts or it allows for anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects to shut down like the inflammatory response to exercise without blunting the hormetic response. | ||
| It would be like green tea and molecular hydrogen would be the two things that I know of that you could do post-workout to blunt that inflammatory response without actually blunting the hormetic response to exercise. | ||
| So it'll enhance without diminishing. | ||
| Right, exactly, exactly. | ||
| Have your cake and eat it too. | ||
| One of the things I think that's probably really good about cold immersion therapy also, I think there's a meditative aspect of getting into that incredible cold and just relaxing and calming and I think it does something for your mind. | ||
| It does, and it's the nervous system, right? | ||
| What I tell people is you have a strong, and I take my kids out there, and I've trained them since a very early age. | ||
| They go out there, they jump in the cold pool, but they'll stand in front of the cold pool and calm their nervous system, calm their heart rate. | ||
| One of them visualizes a sea otter, and the other one does a polar bear. | ||
| So they'll visualize these animals that are just impervious to cold. | ||
| And then they get in the water, and they know there's no sharp intake of breath, there's no Like people do when they take a cold shower a lot of the time. | ||
| If you can get your body to that point, I think that it probably has a pretty—it's a good indicator that you're building that nervous system resilience, right? | ||
| Like if you can just get in cold and not freak out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's what I think people who do cold should train themselves to be able to do. | ||
| I've heard that argument about the sauna as well, that it also builds like a mental toughness to be able to just sit in there and calm yourself and get used to the adverse... | ||
| Get to the point where you want to bang down the door and climb out. | ||
| And yeah, that's what I like to get myself to in the sauna. | ||
| Because obviously you get a bigger expression of heat shock protein and more blood flow when you get really hot. | ||
| But yeah, there's a mental effect, too. | ||
| Same thing with the water. | ||
| I was talking about that book, the book Deep, and how I got into freediving and spearfishing. | ||
| How deep are you going? | ||
| Which I think you would love. | ||
| I would love it. | ||
| As a bowhunter dude, I told you I'm going to go hunt. | ||
| Well, Aubrey was telling me it's like hunting underwater. | ||
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| Actually, yeah. | ||
| Aubrey and I spearfished in Kona last year. | ||
| He and Whitney and I went down there and we were just using like the little three-prong guns. | ||
| It wasn't full on like 80 feet deep, you know, big ass guns after tuna. | ||
| After tuna? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| People go out there like, I've never done deep. | ||
| I'm not good enough. | ||
| I would not want to be underwater attached to a tuna. | ||
| Well, what you do is you have a reel, and the reel is attached to a float. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so after you shoot and you spear a big fish like a tuna, it's not dragging you, it's dragging the float. | ||
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| So all you have to do is wait for that float to pop back up wherever it's going to pop up. | ||
| But I haven't done that. | ||
| That's like on my bucket list. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| I'm going back to Kona. | ||
| I got big tuna. | ||
| I'm going back to Kona in April, and that's going to be more shallow water spearfishing. | ||
| We're going to hunt for scrub cattle, sheep, goat. | ||
| You know, the pig there is amazing. | ||
| They have scrub cattle in Kona? | ||
| Yeah, and the pig feed on, like, macadamia nuts and avocado and mango. | ||
| Explain to people what scrub cattle is. | ||
| I don't know what scrub cattle is, but apparently it tastes amazing. | ||
| What scrub bulls are, they're essentially domestic cattle that have gone feral. | ||
| So some time in the past, whether it's 10, 20 generations back, whatever it was, they busted through some fences and now they're wild. | ||
| And in Australia, they hunt them. | ||
| And they're very dangerous. | ||
| Apparently they are the most aggressive bulls. | ||
| Bring it on. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| You've got to be real careful. | ||
| One of Adam Greentree's buddies got gored real bad and he had to be medevaced out of there. | ||
| He was in the... | ||
| I'm just going to play a shitload of techno-hunt. | ||
| I'll be ready. | ||
| So the book, I read this book by James Nestor, and I had him on my podcast. | ||
| I'm like, dude, I want to learn how to do this. | ||
| I want to learn how to compress the spleen and go under and learn how to hold my breath and get all these nervous system benefits. | ||
| You learn how to compress the spleen? | ||
| The spleen just gets compressed because of the depth. | ||
| Because I couldn't, even as an Ironman triathlete, I couldn't go deeper than 15 feet without freaking out. | ||
| Because, like, my ears would get the pressure in them, and I could do the, what do you call it, the, when you equalize. | ||
| Not the Frenzel technique, but it's the, you know, when you go, I'm forgetting the name of it. | ||
| The pop your ears. | ||
| Yeah, the pop your ears technique that most people do when they get into the water. | ||
| But there's another technique called the Frenzel technique, where you'll pull the, it's like, You see like your nose go... | ||
| See how my nose goes out like that? | ||
| If you do that, you can equalize it like 20 feet, 30 feet, 40 feet. | ||
| So I said, who can I go learn from? | ||
| He's like, you got to go see this cat down in Fort Lauderdale named Ted Hardy. | ||
| Of course, Florida. | ||
| You got to go back to Florida. | ||
| I think dicks, spleens. | ||
| Dick shots, do the stem cells, go learn how to do the spleen thing. | ||
| Fortunately, my grandmother lives in Florida, so I have a place to stay when I go there. | ||
| So there's that, at least. | ||
| And I take this freediving course, and he gets me from holding my breath for about a minute and 45 seconds. | ||
| He got me up to 4.45. | ||
| Four minutes and 45 seconds. | ||
| Took me from 15 feet over five days down to 80 feet where you're like, you actually, they put a rope in the water and you go vertical and you have like your, you know, the big fins, like you have the big fins and you have the mask. | ||
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| I've seen those on people. | ||
| They're like half as long as that flag. | ||
| What's that, like three or four feet? | ||
| Yeah, they're like these big carbon fins. | ||
| And I said, dude, just tell me all the best things to buy. | ||
| And I contacted the editor of Spearing. | ||
| They're carbon, so they're stiff? | ||
| They're carbon, they're stiff, and you just swim so fast in them. | ||
| And I contacted the editor of Spearing Magazine and asked him, what's the best gun to buy? | ||
| What are the best fins? | ||
| So I got outfitted with all this stuff, and then I went down there. | ||
| Learned how to hold my breath. | ||
| Learned how to equalize. | ||
| And now, when I spearfish, and I still, again, I haven't got to the point where I've gone, like, I go after the grouper and the parrotfish, like the little ones. | ||
| I haven't gotten to the point now where I'm hunting the big fish. | ||
| Groupers can get pretty fucking big. | ||
| Very similar to, I know, the first time I went after them, I got two at once, two groupers at once. | ||
| And apparently it wasn't grouper season, so they had me put them back. | ||
| Put them back. | ||
| It's not as big of a deal as if you shoot an elk and a tag. | ||
| They have a grouper season? | ||
| I mean, not put them back. | ||
| I didn't take them down to their little grouper nest and take them away. | ||
| They're dead. | ||
| Leave them alone. | ||
| Can't keep them? | ||
| Yeah, you just leave them. | ||
| That seems ridiculous. | ||
| They just didn't want to get fined? | ||
| They didn't want to get in trouble. | ||
| So anyways, though, spearfishing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And this whole, like, freediving. | ||
| You know, we got on this topic from the float tanks. | ||
| Similar experience. | ||
| Like, you're just at peace under the water. | ||
| You're not wearing all the scuba equipment, so fish swim up to you, and you can kind of, like, lay on the bottom of the water and, you know, shoot something as it comes. | ||
| And I go with my kids, and they, like, sit on the shore with, like, buckets and knives, and, you know, they'll help brain the fish, and then we take it back, and you have, like, fish cook-offs. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's very similar feel to bow hunting, except it's like that peaceful setting in the water. | ||
| It's probably intensely physical, too, right? | ||
| Well, it's a great workout, because not only are you cold, so you're getting all the benefits of cold thermogenesis, you know, like the white adipose to brown fat conversion, and the shivering, and the calorie burning, and, you know, the Angiogenesis and all the stuff you get from cold, but then you're also, you're freaking hunting, right? | ||
| You're not sitting on the edge, like, with a fishing pole over a boat, which I find intensely boring. | ||
| You're actually in there. | ||
| And you're doing it all while you're holding your breath. | ||
| Doing it all while you're holding your breath. | ||
| No scuba equipment. | ||
| And people will do, like, I do breath hold walks, right? | ||
| Where I'll go on a walk, and every time I pass a telephone pole, I'll just, like, take a breath. | ||
| I'll hold my breath as long as possible when I pass a telephone pole. | ||
| And then I'll breathe through my nose to recover. | ||
| And then when I get to the next telephone pole, I'll hold my breath. | ||
| I'm probably going to die someday, like passed out next to a bus stop by a car. | ||
| Blue in the face. | ||
| But yeah, spear fit. | ||
| Like you'd like it. | ||
| I'm sure I would. | ||
| I think you'd dig it. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like an interesting mental exercise too because you have to keep your shit together while you're underwater and you want to take a breath. | ||
| You do. | ||
| And people die. | ||
| People do shallow water blackout. | ||
| And this is what I learned. | ||
| That's why this guy sent me down to Fort Lauderdale, because this guy, he teaches safety, right? | ||
| You don't do, like, the Wim Hof breathing and blow off all the carbon dioxide so you can hold your breath longer, which is great for holding your breath longer, but carbon dioxide is your body's signal to take a breath. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So if you breathe all your carbon dioxide, then you can pass out, you can do shallow water blackout. | ||
| So, for example, you're floating on the water before you're going to take a dive down. | ||
| So you're kind of like watching the water, you're watching the fish, and you might do like a two-count breath in. | ||
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| Two-count hold, and then ten-count breath out, two-count hold. | ||
| and you're just like getting the heart rate down. | ||
| You're getting the nervous system calm. | ||
| You're not even supposed to do like a lot of caffeine, which jacks up the nervous system and causes you to not be able to hold your breath as long. | ||
| Dairy makes the mucus more thick. | ||
| And so you can't hold your breath as long if you do a lot of dairy. | ||
| So you don't do a lot of dairy. | ||
| You don't do a lot of caffeine. | ||
| And then you just dive down. | ||
| And I did, I brought ketones down because a lot of like a, Dominique D'Agostino, he's done research on divers and reducing a lot of the effects of reduced flow of oxygen to the brain that apparently these Navy SEAL divers get. | ||
| And he does research on the use of ketosis and ketones. | ||
| And one of the days that we were out there, I actually took ketones and they increased my breath hold time just using these exogenous ketones. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So apparently they have an effect as well. | ||
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That's fascinating. | |
| I don't know if it's because the brain is using more of the ketones and the glucose, but they increase breath hold time. | ||
| Yeah, they came up with that for rebreathers, right? | ||
| Like, that's when they started getting people, yeah, Navy SEAL divers, when they're using rebreathers, apparently, a certain percentage of them are susceptible to seizures. | ||
| Yeah, and they use, you know, well, two things, you know, ketosis and CBD are two things that are used for, like, epilepsy and seizures. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, ketosis supposedly has an amazing effect with kids, kids that have seizures. | ||
| I did 12 months of, like, strict ketosis. | ||
| Really? | ||
| How'd you like it? | ||
| For a lab study. | ||
| In Florida. | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| University of Connecticut. | ||
| This guy named Jeff Volek. | ||
| He does a lot of ketone research. | ||
| And he had one group of athletes follow just a normal endurance athlete diet for 12 months. | ||
| And another group follow like a high-fat, low-carb, ketogenic diet for 12 months because he wanted to see if you would maintain your glycogen levels and if your performance would be synonymous to the group that did not eat the high-fat, low-carb diet, what would happen to inflammatory markers, what would happen to the gut microbiome. | ||
| A lot of these studies on high-fat, low-carb diets, they'll follow people for two weeks or three days and have them eat high-fat, low-carb, and then see what happens when they go jam on a bike for 30 minutes or exercise, but they want to do a long-term study to see if the body can adapt to burning fats as a fuel with long-term utilization of a high-fat diet, which I don't do anymore, by the way. | ||
| I save all my carbohydrates for the evening, then I eat a bunch of carbohydrates in the evening. | ||
| What kind of carbs do you eat? | ||
| Oh, like red wine, dark chocolate, tubers, starches, yams, sweet potatoes. | ||
| My wife's a cook, so she does this amazing slow-fermented sourdough bread, which pre-digests all the gluten and lowers the glycemic index. | ||
| It's pretty much quinoa, amaranth, milk. | ||
| I don't follow a specific diet in terms of restricting certain food groups. | ||
| My philosophy is you just make them digestible. | ||
| I've read that about eating carbs at night, that it's a good thing to relax here as Well, technically, you're more insulin sensitive in the morning, but you can make yourself more insulin sensitive in the evening. | ||
| And the advantage of that is if you consume a bunch of your carbohydrates in the morning when you're in an insulin sensitive state, what are you going to rely upon as your primary fuel during the rest of the day? | ||
| Carbohydrates. | ||
| Carbohydrates, right? | ||
| Instead of teaching your body how to be a fat-burning machine and tap into fats and generate ketones. | ||
| So you save your carbohydrate intake for the end of the day, but I also save my hard workout for the end of the day, which is when your body temperature peaks and your grip strength peaks. | ||
| And you can do a hard workout. | ||
| Anybody who rolls out of bed and tries to do a CrossFit WOD versus doing it, you know, 5 p.m. | ||
| in the afternoon knows this. | ||
| Like, you can do a pretty good hard workout, like in the later afternoon or the evening when you're warmed up. | ||
| But that also upregulates insulin sensitivity and the activity of these GLUT4 transporters that can, you know, shove glucose into muscle tissue, for example. | ||
| And so then you can have your cake and eat it too, right? | ||
| You create your own insulin-sensitive state and then you go off. | ||
| And typically I'll finish that workout around like 6, 6.30, right? | ||
| And like I mentioned, I don't eat dinner for a couple hours after the workout. | ||
| It's like 8, 8.30, we sit down to a family dinner. | ||
| And I'll just eat as many carbohydrates as I want because I'm in an insulin sensitive state by the next morning. | ||
| And I tested this for a while. | ||
| I did like the blood ketone and the breath ketone testing. | ||
| I'm back in a fat burning state by the next morning. | ||
| That's interesting, even with the bread. | ||
| I've also replenished my glycogen stores in my liver and my muscle to be able to do the next day's hard workout. | ||
| So I like this strategy for athletes because they can get all the benefits of a fat burning state, the reduced free radical production from excess glucose intake. | ||
| the reduced glycemic variability, which is honestly, it's a pretty big marker for, in my opinion, like your risk factor for a host of chronic diseases, like spiking your blood glucose multiple times during the day. | ||
| So instead, you just don't eat carbohydrates all day, do a hard workout at the end of the day, and then have your carbohydrates to replenish all your energy levels Then you go into the next day. | ||
| What's your primary food source during the day? | ||
| Do you have standard foods that you choose? | ||
| We have a lot of really good wild plants that grow up on our land. | ||
| So I have 10 acres up there in Washington state. | ||
| We've got like wild nettle and mint and plantain and organ grape roots and comfrey and all these amazing plants. | ||
| So we also have eight raised garden beds where we grow kale and bok choy and Swiss chard. | ||
| Do you raise them so that they're not as obsessible to? | ||
| Ground frost? | ||
| Well, when you raise a garden bed, you can just add whatever type of soil that you want to, versus digging down. | ||
| Because my wife does a lot of composting. | ||
| We have chickens and goats, so she used a lot of the dung from the chickens and the goats and the leftover food from inside and does composting. | ||
| And so we use a lot of this in the raised garden beds. | ||
| I started gardening this year indoors. | ||
| I'm growing something called splilanthes, which I can tell you about later. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I found it in Kauai. | ||
| But what I do during the day is eat a lot of wild plants. | ||
| So when I'm coming in from that cold pool in the morning, I'll gather some plants and I throw those in a blender with some fats like coconut milk or coconut oil. | ||
| I'll do some bone broth and some lemon because when you mix vitamin C with collagen, you make the collagen a lot more absorbable. | ||
| So I'll mix the vitamin C with bone broth. | ||
| I'll put that into the blender. | ||
| A whole bunch of superfoods. | ||
| I'll blend it for like two minutes. | ||
| Because if you blend it for a long time, it gets a texture like a Wendy's Frosty. | ||
| And you can eat it with one of those long... | ||
| You've had a Wendy's Frosty before, right? | ||
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| I'm like, what kind of horrible life. | ||
| What did your parents do to you? | ||
| You never had a Wendy's Frosty. | ||
| So it gets this Wendy's Frosty-like consistency. | ||
| It's just a bunch of wild plants and fats, and I put that stevia in there. | ||
| I put a little bit of cacao in there. | ||
| Sometimes I'll do a little bit of whey protein, like a good grass-fed whey or some kind of protein source. | ||
| And then I put like crunchy things in. | ||
| So I put it all in a bowl with a spatula. | ||
| Crunchy? | ||
| Yeah, like coconut flakes and cacao nibs. | ||
| And like I use like these little spirulina and chlorella tablets. | ||
| And so it's like eating a... | ||
| It's like when you go to a yogurt store and you get the yogurt and you get the toppings on top of it... | ||
| But it's like this amazing ketogenic, superfood-rich meal. | ||
| And by blending it all together and blending the fats with all the ingredients, you're actually enhancing the absorption. | ||
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| And so that's what I have for breakfast. | ||
| Dude, you should open a cafe. | ||
| That sounds good. | ||
| I want to order one right now. | ||
| Well, I'm trying to make it into like a drinkable... | ||
| A drinkable form. | ||
| Something that will stay in that form? | ||
| Yeah, I'm going over to see Rick Rubin after this over in Malibu, and he does the same thing for breakfast. | ||
| And that's actually one of the things we're talking about over there. | ||
| Did you teach him how to do this? | ||
| No, it's so random. | ||
| We go sauna together over there in Malibu, and we were... | ||
| We both do the same thing. | ||
| Like, his is a little bit different. | ||
| Like, he puts some different things in it, the same thing. | ||
| And it's an amazing breakfast, because you can sit there and, like, I do a lot of dictation on my computer, so I'll sit there and I'll dictate emails while I'm eating my smoothie with a spoon. | ||
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| It's amazing. | ||
| And then I do a salad for breakfast, or for lunch, a big-ass salad. | ||
| Again, a whole bunch of wild plants. | ||
| And I'll put like sardines, seeds, nuts, you know, just good fats on there. | ||
| And then I have like these nori wraps, which is like a seaweed wrap, really good in iodine, really nutrient dense. | ||
| And then I use miracle noodles. | ||
| Have you had miracle noodles before? | ||
| So they're made out of Japanese yam. | ||
| They call them shirataki noodles. | ||
| My kids make pad thai out of this. | ||
| They have like a cooking podcast where they do all these crazy, crazy meals. | ||
| And one of the things they use a lot of are these shirataki noodles. | ||
| So I make these Japanese yam noodles. | ||
| I put them on top of the salad and then I roll that up in like a nori burrito wrap and I eat that like a burrito for lunch. | ||
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| And then dinner, like I mentioned, is just, you know, whatever my wife happens because dinner is like my free meal, right? | ||
| It's just whatever I want to have. | ||
| But for this study, for Jeff Volek's lab, it was 12 months, strict ketosis. | ||
| And they brought us into the lab and me and the group of ketogenic athletes and also the whole group of endurance athletes following a traditional carbohydrate-rich diet do a VO2 max test the night that we got there. | ||
| And then the next morning, they punched a bunch of holes in our thighs with needles and did a biopsy of the muscle to see how much glycogen was in the muscle. | ||
| And then with these big holes in our muscles, we had to go run on a treadmill for three hours. | ||
| So I ran. | ||
| 22 miles on this treadmill. | ||
| So when you're saying punch a hole, like a thin tube? | ||
| They wanted to see how much glycogen. | ||
| So they pull out tissue? | ||
| It's like a muscle biopsy. | ||
| It's like a little guillotine. | ||
| That's a big needle. | ||
| Especially when you go pound on the treadmill after you've had these needle biopsies in your thighs. | ||
| And then they did fat biopsy because they wanted to look at fat content up on either side of the hips. | ||
| And then I ran for three hours on this treadmill. | ||
| And it was horrible. | ||
| There was like no TV. Three hours? | ||
| It was a white wall on the treadmill. | ||
| And I was hooked up to like a blood collection device. | ||
| Did you have a Walkman on or anything? | ||
| A Walkman? | ||
| What am I in the 90s? | ||
| Yeah, I had a Walkman. | ||
| How did that even come out of my mouth? | ||
| I had my aerobic socks on. | ||
| Like Jane Fonda back in the day. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So you were just running for three hours staring at the wall? | ||
| I was running for three hours staring at the wall. | ||
| That's got to be the worst part of it. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| I didn't know going in. | ||
| I walked in the room and I'm like, oh shit. | ||
| Because I would have brought something to watch. | ||
| But I ran. | ||
| And they were testing fat oxidation rates at rest and at exercise. | ||
| So I'm wearing this mask. | ||
| It does what's called indirect calorimetry, where based on the carbon dioxide that you breathe out and the oxygen that you consume, it approximates your carbohydrate and your fat burning rate. | ||
| It's kind of like the gold standard of metabolic testing in laboratory situations, like in an exercise physiology lab. | ||
| And so you're testing how much fat you're burning during exercise, how much carbohydrate you're burning during exercise, something called your respiratory exchange ratio is what it's called. | ||
| And the prevailing research and the literature suggests that you can burn about 1.0 grams of fat per minute during exercise. | ||
| Like that would be about how much fat you would burn, 1.0 grams of fat per minute. | ||
| When they tested, this was called the FASTER study, F-A-S-T-E-R. They found that the folks who followed a high-fat diet, like me and these other people who are eating high-fat diet, we were burning 1.5 to 1.7 grams of fat per minute during exercise, during this three-hour treadmill run. | ||
| We had no deficit in performance. | ||
| Our VO2 maxes were just as high, and we maintained our levels of muscle glycogen. | ||
| And so basically there was no, we didn't go any faster. | ||
| I'm not saying like a ketogenic diet is going to make you better at endurance sports because I've never seen any evidence that that's going to happen. | ||
| But we did go just as fast and we actually burnt, we turned our bodies into fat burning machines over the course of 12 months. | ||
| It was actually a really cool study. | ||
| So the benefits would not be necessarily performance, but the benefits are more health-wise, cancer, prevention. | ||
| A lot of people, they get gut rot and fermentation from eating a lot of fermentable carbohydrates. | ||
| Some people get small intestine bacterial overgrowth. | ||
| Some people get blood glucose fluctuations. | ||
| You see a drop in what's called the first phase insulin response. | ||
| Normally, you're supposed to produce a lot of insulin when you eat a meal, or at least enough to be able to shove that substrate into storage tissue and Normally, you'd be able to produce this, and by getting a lot of glycemic variability during the day, you eventually produce insulin insensitivity, right? | ||
| Like, you don't have that normal first-phase insulin response. | ||
| And you can restore. | ||
| You can use things like bitters and chew your food a lot and, you know, strength train before you eat a carbohydrate-rich meal, you know, things like that. | ||
| But ultimately... | ||
| Yeah, it's more of like a health and longevity thing. | ||
| It's not like eating low carbohydrate makes you faster. | ||
| It's just that you avoid a lot of the potential issues, the potential health issues that would come with a large amount of glucose fluctuations. | ||
| But there's exceptions to that rule, right? | ||
| Like you could go get your genetics tested and you might find out you have, let's say, familial hypercholesterolemia, in which case if you eat like a ketotic diet, you'll produce a lot of like oxidized cholesterol. | ||
| 400, 500 and really high LP little a and all these issues with a high amount of fat consumption because their bodies are unable to deal with that amount of cholesterol. | ||
| That's a big point. | ||
| That's a big point. | ||
| Customizing. | ||
| I can't stress that enough is that human beings vary so widely. | ||
| A huge, huge amount. | ||
| There's a great book that Brian Callen turned me on to that I'm reading right now called Sapiens. | ||
| The Origins of Human Beings. | ||
| It's completely fascinating. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| There's another book called Biochemical Individuality. | ||
| It's like an old book, but I was looking through it. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| There's like 12 different shapes of the stomach and like seven different ways that the heart is shaped. | ||
| And certain people will excrete copious amounts of vitamin D and need a lot more vitamin D intake. | ||
| And other people develop vitamin D toxicity in response to like the 2,000 or 4,000 international units that a lot of people are popping these days. | ||
| Certain people develop... | ||
| High cholesterol and high triglycerides and high inflammation in response to a ketogenic diet, and some people don't. | ||
| We live in an era where it's cheap to get your genes tested, and it's only going to get cheaper. | ||
| You'd have to really find a good expert that really understands what the difference in the genetic variabilities are. | ||
| Otherwise, you're just testing. | ||
| You're trying your ketogenic diet, testing out your blood work, and trying to figure it out. | ||
| It's very complicated for the layperson. | ||
| It is, but I mean, like, in very simplistic terms, I've told some people this, right? | ||
| You could at least test your genetics, and there's actually a really good book about this called The Jungle Effect by Dr. Daphne Miller, and she goes into how, like... | ||
| She'll put, like, her Hispanic clients on, like, a traditional Mexican diet comprised of, like, you know, soaked and sprouted legumes and low glycemic index, you know, tortillas and non-GMO corn and take them back to what their ancestors would have eaten. | ||
| Like, she'll literally take, like, what the Taramahara Indian tribe is eating in South America and put her Hispanic clients on that. | ||
| Or she'll put, like, her African American clients on a fiber-rich fermented, like, Cambodian diet. | ||
| And you could easily do it. | ||
| It's not rocket science. | ||
| You go get your genetics tested, you see where your ancestors came from, and you try to approximate. | ||
| And obviously we're a genetic melting pot in America, and there's going to be some people who are just like, oh crap, I come from Japan and Europe and Ethiopia. | ||
| There's some people who come from all over the place, in which case you would have to take a deeper dive. | ||
| You can get blood work. | ||
| What I tell people is get your genes tested. | ||
| Get a comprehensive blood analysis. | ||
| Get your gut tested, right? | ||
| So you could look at your bacterial balance, presence of parasites, yeast, fungus, all those kind of little things that affect gut health and personality and everything else that the microbiome affects. | ||
| And then like a urine test for hormones, which is more accurate than a blood test. | ||
| And that's a lot of testing, but I mean, if you really, really, truly want to dial things in, it's genetic testing, it's blood testing, urinary testing for hormones. | ||
| There's a test called the Dutch test. | ||
| It tests like your testosterone all throughout the day, the metabolites of testosterone, your cortisol all throughout the day, the metabolites of cortisol. | ||
| So you could actually see like, you know, do I really have high cortisol or am I just not breaking it down quickly enough, for example? | ||
| I just wish there was a place that you could go that was very comprehensive that the average person could go to where they could do all this stuff for you and break it down for you. | ||
| It seems like there's more and more of a market to that every day. | ||
| It's going to cost $10,000. | ||
| Actually, there is a place. | ||
| There's some of these guys who are trying to live forever. | ||
| I think one of them is Peter Diamandis. | ||
| Craig Benter, I think, is another guy. | ||
| Where are these places? | ||
| The Human Longevity Institute, I think it's called. | ||
| Yeah, like some of these rich dudes, right? | ||
| Like a lot of these billionaires. | ||
| They're going to these places and getting the comprehensive blood testing done. | ||
| I do a lot of that myself just by ordering it from direct labs. | ||
| Well, you have a deep understanding and knowledge of all this stuff. | ||
| It's different than the average person. | ||
| Yeah, plus I'm injecting stem cells into my... | ||
| But I think for the average person that's listening to this, it's a little confusing and maybe a little frustrating because it would be nice if there was a place you could go that's like the dentist. | ||
| You go to the dentist, hey, Bob, you've got a cavity. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's all pretty straight cut. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There's companies working on that right now, like an actual dashboard where you get a home test kit done, and there are actually microneedles now. | ||
| That you can attach to the skin. | ||
| You patch it on yourself. | ||
| You send off a tiny, tiny amount of blood. | ||
| And you get a host of blood values back. | ||
| And then you would be able to see what you have deficits in. | ||
| And I could totally see them pairing that with food delivery companies. | ||
| Or even just printouts. | ||
| Like, here's your protein-carb-fat ratio. | ||
| It'll happen. | ||
| Now, when you were on the strict ketogenic diet for 12 months, what was your diet? | ||
| What did you basically eat? | ||
| No Italian. | ||
| Is that the first thing you ate when you got off? | ||
| Just order a pizza and have some spaghetti? | ||
| I don't remember what I ate. | ||
| It was like my bodybuilding days where you go way in in the morning before the show and then the rest of the day you eat freaking ice cream and bread and you look like an Olympic god when you get up on stage because everything's popping. | ||
| All that glycogen gets restored after about eight hours. | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| I don't remember what my first meal was. | ||
| Well, when you don't eat many carbohydrates, you upregulate levels with something called glycogen synthase, which is an enzyme responsible for helping to get glycogen into muscle tissue. | ||
| So this would be a process that you would do before a show? | ||
| Glycogen depletion followed by glycogen restoration causes this big surge in glycogen. | ||
| Plus, going into a show, you're restricting carbohydrates anyways because it's hard to get very, very low body fat. | ||
| That's why you see bodybuilders eating glycogen. | ||
| Freaking like chicken and broccoli, right? | ||
| So the same thing is something I did when I did triathlon, right? | ||
| You'll like carbohydrate deplete the weekend before a race. | ||
| And then I used to do this. | ||
| You'd eat like no carbohydrates on Saturday and Sunday for a race that follows the next Sunday. | ||
| And then Monday, you'd start to eat more carbohydrates, Tuesday even more. | ||
| And by like Saturday before the race, you're eating like 90% carbohydrate. | ||
| This is what I did before I kind of trained my body to do like ketosis and Mm-hmm. | ||
| Function while on a low-carb diet. | ||
| But you're just, I mean, you're jacked up, chock full of glycogen because you upregulate that enzyme. | ||
| It's called, what's it called? | ||
| Carbohydrate, it's just basically carbohydrate depletion and carbohydrate loading. | ||
| Now, was there any benefit of that performance-wise versus what you're doing now? | ||
| There's not necessarily a benefit in that you go faster if you've trained your body how to operate well on a low-carbohydrate diet. | ||
| I've never, like I said, seen any evidence that a low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet makes you go faster than if you were eating a regular carbohydrate-rich diet. | ||
| But I also haven't seen that if you do like I did and follow it strict for a long time... | ||
| There's not a lot of evidence that makes you go slower either. | ||
| So it's kind of like, it's like even keel. | ||
| Right, so it's just a health longevity benefit. | ||
| It's more of like, hey, if I can live a longer time and feel better and produce less reactive oxygen species by doing this versus the high carbohydrate intake, then why not do it? | ||
| And I mean, when you look at like the Nike project and how they were trying to break the marathon record in Italy They were using these crazy engineered forms of carbohydrate where they went way above these maltodextrin fructose blends that a lot of companies like Gatorade use, and they were using these super engineered carbs. | ||
| It's possible that some of these newer carbohydrates that are engineered for extremely high absorption could beat out. | ||
| If we were to study those in a high-fat, low-carb athlete who'd followed that diet for a long period of time versus a traditionally fueled athlete who was eating these newfangled engineered carbohydrates... | ||
| It's possible the newfangled engineered carbohydrates could make you go faster, but unless your paycheck is on the line and you're a pro, I still say, you know, why not get that balance between health and longevity and speed. | ||
| My thyroid, though, did not like that high-fat ketogenic diet paired with high levels of physical activity. | ||
| My testosterone went down. | ||
| Like, there were some issues. | ||
| That's fascinating because usually you hear the opposite. | ||
| People with thyroid disease, they recommend a ketogenic diet to those people. | ||
| Yeah, but look at it this way. | ||
| And I explain this to a lot of athletes who I work with who want to do the ketogenic diet thing. | ||
| You read a book like, you know, there's some fantastic ketogenic diets out there that are plant-rich, which a lot of ketogenic diets aren't, right? | ||
| They'll be like coconut oil and butter. | ||
| And that actually creates a lot of gastric inflammation in the absence of like, you know, high amount of polyphenols and flavonoids and high fiber and plant intake. | ||
| Like you want both. | ||
| I wrote an article about this called The Dark Side of Coconut Oil that gets into the fact that if you're going to do like a high fat, low carb, ketogenic type of diet, you would want to include a lot of plants. | ||
| Dr. Terry Walls has a book called The Walls Protocol. | ||
| That's got a plant-rich ketogenic version in it. | ||
| Stephen Gundry has his book The Plant Paradox, and he has like a ketogenic version in that book that's like very plant-rich. | ||
| So if you're eating like a plant-rich ketogenic diet and you're following what a lot of these people have written, you'd generally be advised to eat like 30 to 50 grams of carbohydrates per day, which is fine if you have thyroid disease or you have some other issue, you know, pre-diabetes, whatever, and you're trying to control it with a ketogenic diet. | ||
| But then once you throw copious amounts of physical activity into the mix, right, you're a CrossFitter, you're an Ironman triathlete, and you go read one of these books and you read the supposed to be 50 grams of carbohydrates. | ||
| Well, you know, the authors of those books, to my knowledge, are not out racing Ironman triathlons and, you know, doing marathons and copious amounts of physical activity. | ||
| So you have to up the carbohydrate intake. | ||
| So it's all about, you know, so for me personally, like 100 to 200 grams of carbohydrate. | ||
| And still maintain ketosis. | ||
| Carbohydrate feed at the end of the day. | ||
| I'll still maintain ketosis. | ||
| And so, again, you have your cake and eat it too. | ||
| That's a radical physical output that you're talking about. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, if you have like a thyroid issue and you're highly active and you want to follow a ketogenic diet, then you need to include more carbohydrate than would be recommended in, let's say, like a more sedentary type of ketogenic diet. | ||
| Well, that makes sense because you're always reading these diets based on just the average person. | ||
| And the average person is just not going to put out that kind of output. | ||
| And you want to include a lot of the things that you tend to build up deficits in, like potassium and magnesium are two biggies. | ||
| And you dump a lot of glycogen, and glycogen stores a bunch of water, and it stores a bunch of electrolytes, so you have to figure out how to replace that. | ||
| And now people are using these exogenous ketones, like the ketone salts or the ketone esters. | ||
| And the danger with those is now you can get into ketosis, but still also have high blood glucose. | ||
| And that's something that we haven't really studied. | ||
| That's not like our ancestors out hunting. | ||
| It's not like they were in ketosis because they were burning a lot of their own body fat and generating ketones as a byproduct. | ||
| And they were in just like a natural state because they weren't eating a lot of food, sometimes just not stuffing their face with carbohydrates and glucose. | ||
| But now people are able to eat a normal Western diet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then like buy one of these ketone supplements and also be in ketosis. | ||
| So you're hyperglycemic and hyperketotic. | ||
| And I did that before a race and I felt like I was on steroids. | ||
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| Like it was like rocket fuel because my blood glucose was jacked through the roof. | ||
| So I did a bunch of like fructose maltodextrin energy-based gels. | ||
| And then I drank a bottle of these ketone esters, which basically, I mean, they have, if you measure your ketones, you'll know that this is high. | ||
| But within 10 minutes, my values were above 7 millimolar, which is just off the charts for ketones. | ||
| But my blood glucose was also off the charts. | ||
| And I felt like my cells had, like, both forms of fuel they'd ever need, both ketones and glucose. | ||
| And I felt amazing. | ||
| But I'll bet, I mean, that's similar to, like, diabetic ketoacidosis. | ||
| Like, if you're in that state all the time and you're using all these ketone supplements and just eating your diet and using these because you're, quote, in ketosis, unquote, I don't think it's healthy. | ||
| I wonder if it would be great, though, performance-wise, like for a fight or something like that. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| You feel unstoppable. | ||
| I would think that. | ||
| I wonder if athletes have tried that. | ||
| And as long as you use that, it's like you use it as a, you know, it's like I heard somebody say it's like sugar is a sometimes drug. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because it does, like, you can feel and it can give you, especially if you're not fat adapted, I mean, carbohydrates give you a pretty big boost in performance and energy versus not having them on board when you're exercising and especially when you're exercising hard. | ||
| And this would be like that, right? | ||
| If you were to use that as a sometimes drug and be careful with it, I could see that being a huge, huge performance boost. | ||
| What kind of a bump were you getting? | ||
| I didn't quantify it, but it was a Tough Mudder in Vegas. | ||
| And all I know is I felt way, way more doubt. | ||
| I had the cognitive high that you get from ketones, which was the original reason that I started doing this ketosis thing seven years ago when I was getting ready to race Ironman Canada. | ||
| And I wanted to see what it would feel like to have those readily available fuel sources for the liver and the diaphragm and the heart and kind of the focus that comes with high levels of ketones when you're on a bike for five hours. | ||
| And I had that when I took these exogenous ketones, but then I also had all the energy that you get after you've had like a candy bar, right? | ||
| So yeah, you're high blood sugar and high blood ketones. | ||
| So you just feel focused, but you also have high levels of energy. | ||
| That sounds amazing. | ||
| That's scary. | ||
| I hope it's good for you. | ||
| Just like the stem cells in the dick. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I hope it's good. | ||
| I hope I don't die. | ||
| That sounds like, though, if you were doing a big event, and if you didn't do it, I like what you're doing in terms of diet-wise. | ||
| It seems like it makes sense. | ||
| You've got a really good balance. | ||
| But for a big event, that sounds like it would be a really good thing to do. | ||
| Load up on carbohydrates. | ||
| Load up on the ketone esters. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That sounds wild. | ||
| Ketone esters are expensive. | ||
| A lot of these ketone salts. | ||
| The thing I like about the ketone salts, too, is I haven't seen a lot of research that the ketone esters are necessarily that much better. | ||
| And the ketone salts, you get electrolytes with them, too. | ||
| And that's one of the things that you get depleted on them, like a ketogenic diet. | ||
| Do you know what brand you're using for your ketone supplements? | ||
| Dude, I told you, I'm like, as a blogger, I get these packages sent to my house every day. | ||
| It's like, you probably get the same thing. | ||
| It's like cardboard boxes. | ||
| We have boxes of shit back there. | ||
| And like the occasional little paper bag of something that somebody made in their kitchen that they sent to you. | ||
| I don't touch those stuff. | ||
| Somebody gave me when I was, this was, where was it? | ||
| I think it was in Asheville, doing a race in Asheville. | ||
| Of course, North Carolina. | ||
| People don't know about Asheville. | ||
| Freaking great food in Asheville. | ||
| Asheville is a crazy little spot. | ||
| One of my clients took me to this place called Karate. | ||
| It's like a charcuterie, like a fine charcuterie restaurant. | ||
| Amazing meat. | ||
| Asheville's amazing. | ||
| Apparently, President Obama's favorite restaurant was in Asheville, and he'd go there, and you'd go up and down the street. | ||
| I went there during the yoga festival, and there's people sitting up in trees playing banjos. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I definitely want to go back there. | ||
| Yeah, the International Yoga Festival in Asheville. | ||
| Shout out to Asheville. | ||
| Yeah, shout out to Asheville, baby. | ||
| Hashtag Asheville. | ||
| Somebody gave me wine that they infused with cannabis. | ||
| Of course they did. | ||
| This big bottle of cannabis-infused wine, but it was in one of those old-school kombucha bottles. | ||
| And you're just like, I don't know where this has been sitting. | ||
| I don't know what's in here. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It was a cool idea, but no offense to whoever gave me that, but I didn't actually consume that. | ||
| But the ketone salts and the ketone esters, honestly, dude, I've tried all of them. | ||
| Kegenics and Keto... | ||
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| They're all Keto something. | ||
| My friend Duncan went to school in Asheville, and he said that they started giving the cows a certain diet. | ||
| To kill the psilocybin mushrooms that grow in their shit because too many kids were climbing fences and plucking mushrooms out of the cow shit. | ||
| You ever do that? | ||
| You ever do like the psilocybin microdosing thing that people are doing for cognition? | ||
| I have psilocybin microdosed, and it gives you a nice feeling. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I have a friend who is a world champion kickboxer who microdoses every day, and he says it makes him almost telepathic. | ||
| He says it makes his response time to sparring. | ||
| He said he sees things before they happen. | ||
| Your sensory perception improves, especially in nature settings. | ||
| Right, like there's this, there's like the synthetic chemical LSD, or PLSD is like the one a lot of people are using now because you get it for a lot less expensive, and it has the same effect as LSD. It's just, it's a lot cheaper. | ||
| You get both on like these websites where you use cryptocurrency to purchase the compound, but... | ||
| It's the FBI sending it to you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dun, dun, dun, dun. | ||
| You, it's very synthetic and there's like a merging of the left and right hemispheres of the brain and you get very creative and focused simultaneously. | ||
| What doses are you... | ||
| For LSD, you want to volumetrically dose, which means if you get a blotter of LSD, it's like 100 micrograms on a square, and a lot of people cut that into 10 pieces. | ||
| So that one piece would be 10 micrograms, but you don't know if that piece has 20 or 5 on it. | ||
| So you take a 100 microgram tab, and you put that in a glass dropper bottle. | ||
| And then you would add like 10 milliliters of Everclear or vodka or some kind of alcohol to it. | ||
| And then you know that for every one milliliter of alcohol in that little dropper bottle that you consume, you're getting exactly 10 micrograms of LSD and about 10 to 20 micrograms, like one to two dropper bottles full, that would be considered a microdose for most people. | ||
| But you don't, like, returning to psilocybin, psilocybin produces, like, this sensory perception, very natural feeling improvement in your cognition, in your senses. | ||
| It just feels more natural, right? | ||
| It's like you would take it before you go on a hike, or you would take it when you're in, like, a very natural, like a nature setting. | ||
| Like, you know, for something like... | ||
| Day at the office. | ||
| It seems like LSD is a more natural choice. | ||
| But psilocybin is really interesting for nature-based setting, hiking. | ||
| The thing about it is you feel like you're getting readings from trees and plants. | ||
| You get a weird feeling from them that you don't normally get. | ||
| Like, oh, now I'm tuned into whatever frequency you guys are operating on. | ||
| And they feel alive. | ||
| Whereas trees just feel like trees normally. | ||
| I walk by, they look beautiful, but I don't feel them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In the same sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I mean, you don't want to make yourself dependent on finding a tree beautiful by whether or not you have psilocybin in your bloodstream. | ||
| It's not even a beautiful thing. | ||
| It's like it's communicating with you. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like you feel like they're giving you information. | ||
| You save it for those settings when you want nature to be really special. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because my wife gives me a hard time sometimes. | ||
| She's like, you know, why do you got to take psilocybin before you got to go on a hike? | ||
| Like, why don't you just go on a hike? | ||
| Sometimes it's more interesting. | ||
| Sometimes you see things you wouldn't normally otherwise see. | ||
| I go to bed and I've got my binaural beats and my sleep mask and I've got that little grounding earthing device under my body and my chili pad and blue light blocking glasses and I get in bed with all these wires sticking up out of my head and my wife just gets in bed and just like... | ||
| Sleeps. | ||
| She's got nothing on her side. | ||
| So we're very yin and yang. | ||
| Yeah, but you're so involved. | ||
| Like everything you're doing, you're very involved. | ||
| Does it ever feel overwhelming that you have all this stuff? | ||
| I mean, obviously it's what you do. | ||
| No, because you systematize it, right? | ||
| Like when I walk into my office, it's not like I'm spending 20 minutes like... | ||
| Turning on the Juve light and putting on the essential oil diffuser and, you know, I've got like this device that creates like special water that you breathe. | ||
| Well, you know, humidifies the water that you breathe while you're working. | ||
| And I've got like, you know, blue light generating devices on the ceiling and all this stuff in my office. | ||
| But when I walk in, there's just like click, click, click, and I go to work. | ||
| Right? | ||
| With the thing on my head or whatever. | ||
| So once you systematize it, it's not exhausting. | ||
| It's not like you're doing a lot to actually improve your body or, you know, let's say biohack your body while you're at work. | ||
| A lot of stuff just becomes systematized, right? | ||
| It's like putting on your pants in the morning. | ||
| That biohack word is about done. | ||
| I'm about done with that word. | ||
| The biohack word. | ||
| It's so beaten up, that word. | ||
| Now, what I would consider to be biohacking is these dudes that inject chlorella into their eyes so that they could get night vision. | ||
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| You should pull that out. | ||
| Or like Kevin Warwick. | ||
| Like he was like the original cyborg guy who got like a chip implanted underneath his skin or the people who will inject like magnets in their fingertips to be able to interact with devices. | ||
| So they would use the human body as what they call wetware and then install hardware. | ||
| And like to me, that's a true biohacker for me to blend like curcumin with olive oil and bone broth and vitamin C in my smoothie. | ||
| That's not like a biohack. | ||
| That's just like health. | ||
| Just like making a meal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like it's like, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think it's overused. | ||
| It's very trendy. | ||
| I think there are true biohackers out there who have actually hacked their biology. | ||
| Well, injecting chlorella into your eyes seems super risky. | ||
| Actually, you know what? | ||
| I think it's chlorophyll, which is the green active component that you would find in something like chlorella. | ||
| But his eyes are all black. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| You should pull it up, Jamie. | ||
| They're stuck black forever? | ||
| I'm assuming. | ||
| Oh, fucking Christ. | ||
| I mean, I don't think he could suck the chlorophyll back out, but he has night vision now. | ||
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| Or the guy who is Goatman. | ||
| Did you hear about Goatman? | ||
| No, hold on. | ||
| Let's one step at a time. | ||
| You're almost manic. | ||
| You're just like, I got another one. | ||
| I got another one. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| So this guy has permanent black in his eyes, and he can see sort of like a deer, like nocturnal. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| Yeah, that's him. | ||
| Jesus motherfucker. | ||
| Making science more available to the public, have been testing a concoction of chemicals that allows humans to see in the dark, and it works. | ||
| That's a true biohack. | ||
| Like, that's a correct use of the term biohacking, in my opinion. | ||
| This guy's out of his mind. | ||
| There's some other people, and you can get like a, what's this on, Nerdist? | ||
| Yeah, Nerdist.com. | ||
| There he goes. | ||
| Straight into the eye. | ||
| I'm not gonna do that. | ||
| I will stop at the stem cells into my dick. | ||
| I'm not gonna do the things. | ||
| The speculum holding my eyes open was by far the worst part. | ||
| Even the effects themselves were very subtle. | ||
| It wasn't like, oh my god, I have predator vision. | ||
| Nothing like that. | ||
| You don't get superpowers. | ||
| This is a tweak, not an overhaul. | ||
| It's kind of disappointing that you go through all that for just a tweak. | ||
| Yeah, well, your whole fucking eyes are black. | ||
| If I'm going to do that shit, I want predator vision. | ||
| I want the full meal deal. | ||
| I want to be able to hunt animals in the darkness. | ||
| This guy's got hamster eyes. | ||
| The chemical works by binding to opsin proteins in your retina where it's excited by light. | ||
| Transformational process to occur in the protein segment. | ||
| See? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you could get the blue light blocking glasses or you could just inject everything into your eyes. | ||
| Allowed him to pick up figures in the dark with 100% accuracy where non-treated test subjects could only make out to about 30%. | ||
| That's pretty significant. | ||
| Well, that would be really good for bow hunters. | ||
| And I like how the author doesn't know which percentage sign to use, the actual percentage sign or the word percent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He mixes it up. | ||
| They've got to work on their editing. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, you're a writer. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| We're talking 50 meters. | ||
| Go back to that, Jamie. | ||
| We're talking 50 meters over 160 feet apart. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's actually really significant. | ||
| The following morning, his eyes returned to normal. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| All right, where does it say that? | ||
| Right there. | ||
| The eyes return to normal. | ||
| No apparent side effects. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So he's not like that forever. | ||
| No, so they're not injecting. | ||
| They're dropping. | ||
| They're using drops. | ||
| So this would be, like we were talking about bow hunting, about elk hunting, like when you're in sort of low light. | ||
| That might be the move. | ||
| You could pack your speculum into your bow case. | ||
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Drop them in there. | |
| Just drop them in there. | ||
| Make sure that you have a hunting buddy who is well-versed in the addition of Chlorophyll. | ||
| Rubber gloves. | ||
| Into a speculum. | ||
| Yeah, bring the rubber gloves. | ||
| You've got all that stuff to fill dress anyways and just go to town on your eyes. | ||
| How did you get into bow hunting? | ||
| My buddy, Kenton Claremont, up in Washington State, he was running these train-to-hunt competitions, which are really bad. | ||
| It's like obstacle course racing with a weapon. | ||
| And you could do it out here, because you could carry sandbags and do cones and suicide sprints and all sorts of stuff with this techno-hunt setup that you have. | ||
| But the train-to-hunt... | ||
| The first competition that I did, you show up and it starts off with like a four or five hour traditional 3D shoot. | ||
| And for people who don't know what a 3D shoot is, it's a bunch of targets, you know, like Reinhardt targets or whatever that are set up in different locations. | ||
| They look like animals. | ||
| They look like animals. | ||
| They're going to be a fox or an elk or, you know, whatever, you know, a bedded animal or a standing animal. | ||
| And they're spread throughout this course that you're walking. | ||
| You can think of it almost like golfing, you know, for people who don't bow hunt. | ||
| And you'll, you know, one shot might just be like a simple 25-yard shot at a fox where if you get vitals, you'll get five points. | ||
| And if you hit a body shot, then it might be three points. | ||
| And if you miss, it's zero. | ||
| And if you get like a wound, it's actually a negative score, right? | ||
| Which it should be. | ||
| Like, it's like a... | ||
| Because if you wound an animal, that's really much, much worse than missing an animal. | ||
| So some of the shots are pretty complex. | ||
| It might be you got to get off two shots in 10 seconds, which is actually kind of hard to do. | ||
| You know, two shots in 10 seconds and one animal's at 20 and one animal's at 40. Right, which is why I use like a three pin side on my bow because you don't even have time to adjust the dial after you've taken one shot to the yardage for the second shot. | ||
| You might have a shot that's like run up this hill. | ||
| There is a target up there. | ||
| We won't tell you the distance, but you have 30 seconds to make it the 25 yards up that goalie and then you're going to have a shot at the top and you got to run up the goalie site and get your shot off in those 30 seconds. | ||
| So it's not like a traditional 3D shoot. | ||
| It's very active. | ||
| And some shots are you draw lunging, and then you stand, and then you've got to walk around the tree, and then take your shot. | ||
| So it's actually pretty fun. | ||
| It's way different than just standing out of the range shooting at targets. | ||
| score coming out of that, right? | ||
| Like you might have amassed X number of points or lost X number of points. | ||
| And then you go into, um, they actually, they, they, this year they've kind of like changed it because a lot of people are like getting hurt and blown up their knees with this next part. | ||
| But you do, it's called like a meat pack, which is a hundred pounds in your pack. | ||
| And it's a two to four mile course that you got to boogie across as fast as possible. | ||
| Yeah, people were running, right? | ||
| And the problem with it was people, like, when you pack out, like, you're taking your time. | ||
| You're not running. | ||
| You're not, like, racing your buddy. | ||
| But this, and it was, like, the most painful thing I've really ever done in terms of, like, how high my heart rate got and the amount of lactic acid. | ||
| Like, just try to go two miles as fast as you can with a hundred pounds in your pack. | ||
| Sounds very dangerous. | ||
| Not only do you got to spend, like, I would spend copious amounts of time just, like, making sure the pack was adjusted properly, and I'll put, like, the bubble wrap in the bottom of the pack so it moves the weight that you're using, which are typically sandbags, up to the center of the pack. | ||
| And I worked with this company called Kefaru that makes, like, these... | ||
| Yeah, I use their packs. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, they make a good pack. | ||
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| Yeah, Aaron. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And, you know, he did some Skype sessions with me where he taught me exactly... | ||
| Because you don't set it up the way that you would if you were just going to pack out an animal. | ||
| You have to put it super-duper tight up in the shoulder so it's not bouncing around. | ||
| And then you put the weight down in the hips. | ||
| So it works for running two miles really hard, but it's super uncomfortable. | ||
| It's not biomechanically favorable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It sucks, but... | ||
| But it's good for running. | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| They call that the meat pack. | ||
| Do you have to do it that way or is it just a matter of how much weight you have on your back? | ||
| Could you use one of those Atlas packs? | ||
| Have you seen those Atlas things from Outdoorsman's? | ||
| No. | ||
| Essentially, it's a pack frame with a traditional Olympic bolt on the end of it where you put the plates on it. | ||
| What are those things called? | ||
| The end of a weight bar or the weight slide on them. | ||
| What would you call that? | ||
| The end of a weight bar? | ||
| Yeah, like the end of a barbell? | ||
| Yeah, the end of a bar. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's called the end of a barbell. | ||
| Yeah, the end of a bar. | ||
| Well, they have one of those, a post. | ||
| I guess you'd call it a post. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They have one of those that's hanging out of the back. | ||
| See if you can find it. | ||
| It's called the Atlas Trainer, Jamie. | ||
| Outdoorsmans.com. | ||
| And it's a pack? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a pack frame. | ||
| I hike with it on. | ||
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| This is it. | ||
| Show me a picture. | ||
| It's pretty dope. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| Outdoorsmans.com. | ||
| They're not a sponsor, but they're good people. | ||
| You could use whatever you want. | ||
| As long as you have weight in it, you just have to figure out how to... | ||
| Because everybody has to use a standard weight, so you have to use the sandbag that they issue to you. | ||
| Oh, you have to use sandbags. | ||
| You have to use the same object, so everybody's using a sandbag, just so you don't come in with your own... | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I was just saying, if you did that, you'd have a 45-pound plate. | ||
| Your rubber plate that you bought that you painted a 45-pound logo on. | ||
| Anyways, so you do the meat pack, and you get a certain amount of time for that, and then you do the obstacle course, which is the real hoot, and which they still do, which is because they got rid of the meat pack. | ||
| They got rid of the meat pack. | ||
| Well, it doesn't make sense, right? | ||
| They designed this whole competition to simulate hunting, to prepare a hunter to hunt, and to train a hunter to hunt properly, and it just flew in the face of everything that is hunting, which is, you know, jacked-up nervous system, you know, rushing through the woods with a giant pack, and you just, you don't. | ||
| Pack out an animal like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they'd have to figure out a way to put a speed limiter on. | ||
| Like, oh hey, you're not allowed to run. | ||
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| So how many guys got their legs blown out? | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But people were getting hurt and it just didn't make sense. | ||
| I'm jacked at my back. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I kind of wish they still had it because I was good at that part. | ||
| Because I'm an endurance athlete and I'm kind of strong. | ||
| So for me it worked out pretty well. | ||
| And then they have the obstacle course, which is like crawling under barbed wire, stand, shoot. | ||
| And then you're doing like, you know, like sandbag over the shoulder, 20 reps, shoot, 30 burpees. | ||
| And for the obstacle course, you have a 50 pound pack or a 40 pound pack on your back. | ||
| They kind of adjust the pack weight based off which division that you're in. | ||
| But so you're using a smaller pack. | ||
| So I use the Kefaru pack. | ||
| Again, they just had like a smaller pack. | ||
| Same thing, you got a sandbag, but it's a lighter sandbag. | ||
| So you're carrying that through the whole course, but you're stopping and shooting along the way. | ||
| So it's like you're learning how to, just imagine if you're like rushing up a hill and you got to the top of the hill and you got to calm your heart rate, calm your nervous system very quickly and get your shot off. | ||
| And granted, you're not necessarily going to be hauling a sandbag up That hill and doing a bunch of burpees, but it's kind of simulating that idea of shooting with your heart rate elevated. | ||
| And it's a hard course. | ||
| I mean, like, there are, like, legitimate, you know, hardcore crossfitters and athletes that do this, but it's a combination of being able to shoot well and being able to fitness. | ||
| Well, that's the interesting thing about bowhunting is that bowhunting really does require fitness. | ||
| Well, when I did that... | ||
| Especially high country elk. | ||
| Yeah, I was wearing this ring we were talking about when I did that hunt in Hawaii. | ||
| And I did like 46 miles over the course of five days, just like crawling and walking and hiking and sprinting. | ||
| I mean, that's why I like bow hunting. | ||
| It's a challenge. | ||
| And the Train to Hunt guy, Kenton, he told me about these competitions and I was watching them and I'm like, I really want to try this. | ||
| Because at that point I'd firearm hunted for two years. | ||
| I didn't grow up hunting. | ||
| I grew up, you know, homeschooled, playing chess and playing the violin, reading books, and playing World of Warcraft. | ||
| Like, I was not, like, a hunter kid growing up. | ||
| And neither were my parents, right? | ||
| Like, we'd occasionally go fishing for trout. | ||
| That was about it, in the stocked pond. | ||
| So hunting was new for me. | ||
| I'd been hunting for two years. | ||
| It's totally self-taught. | ||
| Like I failed to dress my first animal with the little YouTube video on the iPhone where I'm following along and I've got my knife and I'm watching the video because that's the way I'm being homeschooled. | ||
| I like to teach myself things. | ||
| I just grew up as a very independent learner. | ||
| So all of my hunting was self-taught. | ||
| That's a great benefit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There are drawbacks to being very resistant to learning from others or having mentors, I think, that you also don't play well with others, right? | ||
| Like, I grew up, when I got to college, I was very poor at, like, the team activities. | ||
| You weren't socialized. | ||
| I was very good at creating, at leading, at thinking outside the box, at, you know, kind of being a lot more independent, right? | ||
| Well, that's fascinating because that's what homeschooling did for me. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| It is what I wound up doing. | ||
| And also, I read a copious amount. | ||
| I wrote a copious amount. | ||
| And that's still what I do because that's what I kind of grew up doing, homeschooled. | ||
| And it was really tennis that got me into fitness. | ||
| Like, I played tennis in college, and I got big into tennis in high school. | ||
| And in Idaho, where I was at the time, there's a rule that homeschooled kids could play sports at the local public school. | ||
| So I played tennis, and that really got me into sports. | ||
| And then I studied exercise physiology and biomechanics in college. | ||
| And here I am. | ||
| What was that like, going from being homeschooled to hanging out with public school kids? | ||
| Really awkward. | ||
| Because you're not in class with them. | ||
| You're not at the prom. | ||
| You're not doing any of the social things that they're doing. | ||
| But then you might show up at tennis practice or whatever. | ||
| And same thing when you get to college. | ||
| You're just not used to it. | ||
| Dude, I went off the deep end of college because I graduated when I was 15, and I didn't do a gap year or anything. | ||
| I just started college when I was 16, and I did not have good self-control around sex and alcohol and drugs and all these things that all of a sudden I was immersed in in college. | ||
| And no one was there to tell you no. | ||
| Yeah, the way I raise my kids is they, for example, there are really no rules in our house, right? | ||
| Like, they can try rum and scotch and whiskey and they can take a hit off the vape pen. | ||
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| They're nine. | ||
| But they also have been educated about what that might do to their liver or to the gray matter in their brain. | ||
| Or we don't say no gluten. | ||
| I tell them, you know, gluten is going to affect your test scores, creates neural inflammation, can create some gastric inflammation. | ||
| You get to choose when you go to the birthday party whether you're going to have the gluten. | ||
| And sometimes it comes back to bite me because we'll go out to a restaurant and they'll bring the bread out to the restaurant and my boys will be like, no, no, we don't want the bread. | ||
| And I'm like, but I kind of wanted a little piece of bread here. | ||
| So I think that's a better way to raise a child. | ||
| You educate them about the consequences of their decision and then you let them make the decision themselves. | ||
| You equip them rather than creating a bunch of forbidden fruit, which is the way that I was kind of raised. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, yeah, it was a little tricky, the whole college thing. | ||
| But back to bow hunting, it was this train hunting. | ||
| And Kenton came over to my house, and I asked him about, kind of like the spearfishing, like, what's the bow? | ||
| What release do I get? | ||
| What arrows do I get? | ||
| How do I do this? | ||
| I went to my local bow shop. | ||
| I took some lessons in shooting. | ||
| And then my first hunt... | ||
| What was my first hunt? | ||
| Aside from my property, because I'm on 10 acres, maybe a copious amount of whitetail, so I shot my first animal out there. | ||
| My first major hunt was high country, Colorado. | ||
| We did like a horseback hunt with a guide there, you know, and that got me hooked. | ||
| This was elk. | ||
| I came back after seven days with nothing. | ||
| That was my very first hunt. | ||
| And then my first actual kill was I hunted Axis deer down in Texas. | ||
| Amazing, amazing. | ||
| Texas is crazy. | ||
| I was telling you, they have like freaking zebras you can hunt down there. | ||
| Believe me, I know. | ||
| They have everything. | ||
| Yeah, I've hunted there. | ||
| They came back. | ||
| Neal guy and African animals. | ||
| My wife bought us a sausage maker, and me and my boys made Axe's deer sausage and the backstrap, and it was amazing. | ||
| And now they're little chefs, dude. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| They made like bone broth, like made baked donuts out of breadfruit flour, and they used bone broth and colostrum, and they made like a cream cheese ginger frosting and a dark chocolate cacao frosting, and it actually tastes like real donuts. | ||
| What was this from? | ||
| A recipe? | ||
| Yeah, from a recipe. | ||
| And they had, like, donut molds. | ||
| How'd they find this recipe? | ||
| And you bake them. | ||
| Bone broth colostrum donut recipe. | ||
| We made it up. | ||
| Oh, you made it up? | ||
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| And they use breadfruit flour. | ||
| Or they do pad thai, but they use those shirataki noodles I was talking about. | ||
| And they use organic roasted crickets, like, instead of shrimp for chicken. | ||
| And the crickets actually taste really good. | ||
| They're, like, nutty and salty. | ||
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| Are they buying these crickets or are they raisin' them? | ||
| Yeah, they're not raising the crickets. | ||
| I think it's called Akeda is the company that they get the crickets. | ||
| And they're really good. | ||
| They send you these little baked crickets. | ||
| This is a place I go to in Mexico. | ||
| Yeah, crickets are actually really tasty. | ||
| Yeah, this is a place I go to in Mexico and they give them to you. | ||
| It's a little appetizer they leave in your room when you go to this resort. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, it's like a fried cricket. | ||
| It's an appetizer. | ||
| It's like the resorts you go to with the apples and the mango covered in the cellophane on the back, but instead it's crickets. | ||
| Well, they have that, too. | ||
| They have crickets, too. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And it's very tasty. | ||
| They're dark, and they're somehow or another cooked. | ||
| I don't know what they're seasoned with. | ||
| Sustainable, mineral-rich source of protein. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| See, the thing about most people that don't want animals to die, they don't usually give a shit about bugs. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Not a lot of people find like a June bug super cute and cry when it gets killed. | ||
| Or a mosquito. | ||
| Vegans will slap mosquitoes when they're on their arms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I read a study this morning of gene editing mosquitoes now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like they're using CRISPR technology to make the mosquitoes less likely to bite you. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very bizarre. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's a cool little anecdote from that study too where they found that mosquitoes actually have like they learn. | ||
| If you swat up the mosquito, it actually learns to avoid you. | ||
| Normally, I just put some on my skin, like cinnamon essential oil or something that drives a mosquito away. | ||
| Does that work? | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| You want to dilute it because it's a burning oil, but cinnamon works amazingly. | ||
| But have you ever tried it in Alaska where they have really aggressive mosquitoes? | ||
| I've tried it in Hawaii where there's a lot of mosquitoes. | ||
| It's a different animal. | ||
| You've been to Alaska? | ||
| No, it's on my bucket list. | ||
| Get out of the fucking car and they swarm you like a pack of zombies. | ||
| Alaska doesn't seem like a place I would envision having these special snow mosquitoes. | ||
| No, they just don't live very long, so they're incredibly aggressive. | ||
| I mean, I'm telling you, it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. | ||
| We went salmon fishing there, me and my friend Ari, and we opened up the car door to get out, and in the time it took to open the car door... | ||
| A swarm of mosquitoes was inside the car, and I'm not exaggerating, several hundred mosquitoes. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Show that video that you pulled up once, we were talking about this, with the clouds of mosquitoes in Alaska. | ||
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| That sounds like when I grew up in Lewiston, Idaho, and we would get these grasshopper infestations. | ||
| Locusts. | ||
| Yeah, locusts. | ||
| And apparently they plant their eggs in the ground, and then in the spring or the summer they hatch. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's mosquitoes in Alaska. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you, it's the craziest fucking... | ||
| Is that just like a bird getting eaten by mosquitoes? | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| Poor little birdie getting jacked. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you, I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| And we were covered with DDT and all that shit, but... | ||
| Yeah, the... | ||
| You feel terrible. | ||
| The DEET. Do you know about thermocels? | ||
| Cancer sticks. | ||
| I do now. | ||
| I think I've been using them because my kids camp outside sometimes, you know, in the forest, and I set one of those little thermocel things in front of their... | ||
| They're amazing. | ||
| These caribou are getting jacked by mosquitoes. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that why the fur is like that? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| On that caribou? | ||
| Yeah, the grasshoppers at our house in Lewiston, we would actually go sell them to pet stores. | ||
| That's how we'd make money in the summers because there'd be so many of them. | ||
| Me and my brothers would walk around with cages, catch these grasshoppers and bring them to pet stores. | ||
| We'll use them for tarantulas and stuff like that. | ||
| And then this army guy who was in the military came up to our house and he showed us how they eat grasshoppers. | ||
| So we started eating grasshoppers and we would like... | ||
| Everything, like we'd microwave grasshoppers, just figure out every way to kill a grasshopper. | ||
| And the way that we got rid of them was we introduced praying mantis and chicken to our property. | ||
| Oh, chickens are motherfuckers, dude. | ||
| Yeah, so we introduced a bunch of chickens, and then we have chickens at our property up in Spokane now, too. | ||
| I have chickens right here. | ||
| Yeah, Icelandic chickens. | ||
| They're very, very hardy in the winter. | ||
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Oh, they're different. | |
| And then the goats that we have are Nigerian dwarf goats. | ||
| Nigerian? | ||
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Nigerian. | |
| Nigerian dwarf goats, they're a very small goat and they produce a lot of milk for their actual size and they're very hardy in the winter. | ||
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Do you milk them? | |
| And they're small and they're cute and we haven't milked them yet because they need to be, they have to be pregnant to produce the milk. | ||
| And we've had some issues with, like, the babies dying. | ||
| We're learning our goat game. | ||
| However, we did have to tie rubber bands around a bunch of their testicles recently to neuter some of the males. | ||
| Why don't you get them in front of that light machine? | ||
| Because we're training the males to be pat goats. | ||
| Oh, so you have to neuter them, so you're killing their balls with rubber bands. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| I've heard of dudes doing that. | ||
| Look at those little cute guys. | ||
| Oh, they're adorable. | ||
| Yeah, those are little Nigerian dwarf goats. | ||
| And we have, like, little tires. | ||
| Look at them go. | ||
| We have little tires that they play on. | ||
| They're super cute. | ||
| My kids love them. | ||
| Jumping over each other. | ||
| They named them after candy bars like M&M and Caramel and Milky Way and Toffee. | ||
| And did you buy them just for pets or did you buy them? | ||
| We bought them originally for milk. | ||
| Because goat milk, the protein is smaller. | ||
| It's very thermodynamically compatible. | ||
| Apparently the only one that's better is camel milk. | ||
| There was a company out of California that was sending me camel's milk to my house for a while. | ||
| And apparently it's super duper healthy for you and the protein is smaller, more absorbable, and it's less hypoallergenic and friendly to your immune system. | ||
| Well, when my daughter was young, she could not digest actual cow milk. | ||
| It just really didn't agree with her. | ||
| But goat milk was fine. | ||
| It's one of the things we found. | ||
| And I started drinking goat milk. | ||
| I just feel like it just tastes better. | ||
| You know what I like is the colostrum. | ||
| You ever use colostrum? | ||
| Oh, Jamie, you're showing me. | ||
| We're just basically just like playing goat yoga. | ||
| Yeah, people do yoga with goats. | ||
| They apparently find it relaxing. | ||
| I would get so pit. | ||
| That does not look relaxing. | ||
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You do a down dog and you got like a cloven hoof on your cervical vertebrae. | |
| It's really popular, man. | ||
| I think I would get a kick out of that. | ||
| It'd distract you a little bit. | ||
| That's white people. | ||
| This looks like something people who've never been on a farm would do. | ||
| They're like, goats, yoga. | ||
| Seattle. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They walk out of Starbucks with their Frappuccino and they go sit with the goats. | ||
| You've got a great system out there, though. | ||
| It sounds awesome. | ||
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It's a good setup. | |
| You've got wild animals out there. | ||
| It's a good setup. | ||
| And then I have an obstacle course because I do all this obstacle course racing. | ||
| And you know what's cool is you can take all these little bow targets and you set them up around the obstacle course. | ||
| So you climb the rope and you come down and then you shoot your bow and then you move on. | ||
| Is that how you practice standing still though and working on your form and doing that as well where you're not tired? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's meditative. | ||
| It's very relaxing and very meditative. | ||
| Sit down with you and go over this idea. | ||
| Because you also trigger shoot. | ||
| You're not using surprise release. | ||
| I haven't. | ||
| I took one class at my bow shop on surprise release. | ||
| And I like it. | ||
| And I get it. | ||
| And frankly, I feel like there's a lot less strain in the shoulder when you pull back. | ||
| Because for a while, I was getting some of the brachialis issues from pulling back. | ||
| Why would it be different? | ||
| You know how when you do a lat pulldown and if you grip thumbs off, you use more of the lats? | ||
| And if you grip thumbs on, you use more of the biceps and the forearm muscles? | ||
| I felt like it was similar to that. | ||
| I felt like with the Surprise release, I was using more of my back and less of my forearm and biceps. | ||
| I don't know if there's something to that. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense because the draw is exactly the same way. | ||
| The only difference is the release. | ||
| Yeah, it felt a lot different. | ||
| The thing about archery is it's like martial arts in that if you learn the wrong way, it's very difficult to unlearn. | ||
| When I was teaching martial arts, it was way better to get someone who was open-minded, who had never had any martial arts experience, versus someone who had many, many years in a shitty martial art. | ||
| Because those people had these deeply ingrained pathways that were... | ||
| Whenever the shit would get weird or they would get uncomfortable or they'd get nervous, they would go back to their old technique. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With archery, it's very... | ||
| There's also a series of instructionals that can show you about surprise releases that John Dudley's done and put online. | ||
| And there's a guy named Joel Turner that has this whole dedicated thing to... | ||
| Avoiding target panic in high-pressure situations. | ||
| He's got a website. | ||
| It used to be called Iron Mind Hunting, but now he calls it Shot IQ. I think it's Shot IQ. Isn't Iron Mind the people that sell the Captains of Crush hand grip strengtheners? | ||
| I think that's another company, but I love those guys. | ||
| I have a bunch of those. | ||
| I have those up 197 pounds. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think mine might be like 150 years old, but I have two things. | ||
| I travel with one of those power lungs that you breathe in and out of to strengthen the expiratory and inspiratory muscles and the diaphragm, and then the captains of crush. | ||
| And so if I'm on a long road trip and I've got to drive a long time, I go back and forth between the hand grip strengthener and then the lung strengthener. | ||
| I'll just work out for two hours while you're driving. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, it's amazing. | ||
| You put on a good book and work the grip and work the lungs. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a big believer in those grip things. | ||
| I mean, it just makes your hands so much stronger. | ||
| And the captains of Crush, I mean, they don't fuck around. | ||
| Those are really hard. | ||
| And you combine that with the apnea so you pass out a few times. | ||
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I mean, it's a super safe way to drive. | |
| Your hand's You got a sweat on, you're blue in the face, you can't even grip the steering wheel because your grip's gone. | ||
| It's a good way to roll. | ||
| We're short on time here, but I feel like we could probably talk for about six days and you would never run out of things to talk about. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| How often are you around here, man? | ||
| We gotta do this again. | ||
| Not that often. | ||
| Not that often? | ||
| I avoid LA. Do you? | ||
| I like it up in Spokane. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| What I do is when I travel, I batch stuff here. | ||
| I'm just back to bed. | ||
| I shot four documentaries yesterday and then talked the day before. | ||
| I batch a lot of meetings and then go home. | ||
| So I'll go out to Malibu tonight, and then I'm going to go do that Human Garage treatment on the 31st. | ||
| Talk about that for a second, because I've been following those guys online, the Human Garage, and it seems really fucking interesting and weird. | ||
| What do they do there? | ||
| It goes back and forth. | ||
| I've had some people tell me that it's cultish, right? | ||
| Because you go in there and you've got to be a member of their tribe. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I've never experienced anything like that, and I'm not quite sure what people mean when they say that. | ||
| You have a big profile. | ||
| You're a famous fitness guy. | ||
| It might be they let you slide on the cult. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't know, but I enjoy it. | ||
| They fill you full of high-dose curcumin before you go in, so your muscles just melt. | ||
| And then they have four massage therapists working on you at the same time. | ||
| And they taught me this, how if one's rubbing your head in a clockwise direction, but the other guy's mashing on your adductor with their elbow, you don't feel the mashing on the adductor as much because the movement on your head is distracting you from that. | ||
| And then somebody else is working on your leg. | ||
| And they have, like, all these essential oils that they fill the air with. | ||
| They're, like, special oils that cause you to relax and be a little bit more open to the deep tissue work. | ||
| And everybody there, like, goes through a special... | ||
| I mean, I liked it so much. | ||
| I actually... | ||
| I flew one of their guys up to my house to work on me at my house. | ||
| They're doing it right here? | ||
| Oh, that's me. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That's a... | ||
| Is that there? | ||
| Yeah, that's there. | ||
| That's there. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's Gary. | ||
| The first time I was there, he was working on my back, and he worked on my back by putting on a rubber glove. | ||
| I actually have had that intra-butt massage. | ||
| No, they work on your pelvic floor. | ||
| It's pelvic floor therapy. | ||
| Inside your asshole. | ||
| That gets tight just like anything else. | ||
| So they go through your asshole to get to there. | ||
| They go into your asshole. | ||
| That sounds like something that a pervert would tell you. | ||
| There's only one way for me to do this. | ||
| No, I had a girl down in Kauai do it. | ||
| It was Gabby Reese's trainer. | ||
| She actually does dry needling. | ||
| She does smash. | ||
| Intra butt therapy. | ||
| Get that rubber glove on there. | ||
| Does it hurt? | ||
| She also had me buy this glass tool so I could do it myself. | ||
| So I do this and I go in through my butt and I do massage. | ||
| It sounds weird, but it actually works. | ||
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With a glass tool? | |
| Why don't they make it out of metal? | ||
| That shit gets tight. | ||
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What if it breaks? | |
| Just because glass is smooth. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Hey, polish the metal. | ||
| The fuck putting glass in your asshole? | ||
| Have you ever seen one of those Faces of Death videos? | ||
| My roommates in college used to rent those. | ||
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It seems like that would be a way someone would die. | |
| There's a video of a guy who stuck a bottle up his ass and then the bottle breaks. | ||
| It's one of those... | ||
| No, I stop at THC suppositories and actual proven deep tissue devices. | ||
| Yeah, glass rods. | ||
| Anyways, the human garage, they went in through my mouth to work on my back. | ||
| They went in through your mouth? | ||
| They go in through your mouth, like a big old rubber glove, and they're working on the different areas. | ||
| If you work on your infraspinatus or your teres minor in your shoulder, it can actually get rid of pain on the front of your shoulder. | ||
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Really? | |
| There are certain trigger points, yes. | ||
| And it's very similar. | ||
| There are certain trigger points on the head that refer to the back or the psoas. | ||
| It's really interesting, this whole idea behind fascia and trigger points, and how when you're working on one area, it actually affects another area. | ||
| Well, I got rolfing done a few times when I had some pretty bad back injuries, and I found that to be pretty interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very painful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't had any rolfing done. | ||
| I had it from a giant dude, too. | ||
| I don't think I've ever had rolfing. | ||
| I use a lot of those vibrating foam rollers and vibrating deep tissue devices, though. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a big fan of those. | ||
| But most of the time, you're not going somewhere to get deep tissue? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Most of the time, I do my own, and I just started... | ||
| To begin to have a massage therapist come to my house once a week. | ||
| Because I think like there's a certain amount of relaxation that you get when somebody else is working on you and you're laying down on a table and I have like this. | ||
| You ever used like a bio mat? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A bio mat like produces a bunch of heat. | ||
| So I lay down on the bio mat and I put on my Michael Tyrell. | ||
| Beats. | ||
| And diffuse essential oil and have her work on me for a couple of hours. | ||
| Usually I'll have her come over after dinner, like around 7.30, 8 o'clock, and after the family's kind of wrapped up, and she'll just work on me at night and then go to bed. | ||
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It's amazing. | |
| Listen, Ben, you're a fascinating dude. | ||
| I'm glad we got a chance to talk. | ||
| Awesome, dude. | ||
| Really cool. | ||
| Chance to talk, chance to shoot. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Yeah, it's a lot of fun. | ||
| That's a sick techno hunt setup. | ||
| Yeah, it was a lot of fun, dude. | ||
| Thank you very much for doing this. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks, dude. | ||
| And people can find you on your website... | ||
| Wherever. | ||
| Just Google. | ||
| Instagram, Twitter, all that jazz. | ||
| All those places. | ||
| And Greenfield, ladies and gentlemen. |
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