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Dec. 5, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1048 - Doug Stanhope
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joe rogan
I gotta do it.
unidentified
Four, three, two, one.
joe rogan
Mr. Hennigan, you were talking in the background.
doug stanhope
Yeah, Brian Hennigan, he's worried about the link.
He's waiting for...
joe rogan
Oh, JoeRogan.Live.
Yeah, I should tweet it, right?
Yeah, tweet it.
I'll tweet it while I'm talking to you.
Douglas Danhope, the mayor of Bisbee.
doug stanhope
Wow, you're becoming the mayor of L.A. That should be your thing, man.
300 square miles of studio space.
joe rogan
Twitter.
doug stanhope
I knew when I pulled up, well, the Uber dropped us at the wrong place, but then we walked a few buildings down and I saw a pickup truck loading Epsom salt into a side door.
I go, yeah, that's flotation tank shit right there.
We get the right door.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Going live with Douglas.
doug stanhope
I only did a flotation tank once for a shoot at your house for the man show, and you had the one in the house, and we were doing it for a shoot, so you can't really sit back and enjoy it.
But for that 30 seconds, they shut the door until they go, uh, action!
You're like, wow, this is fucking weird!
joe rogan
It's fucking weird.
It's weird, and it never stops being weird.
Like, even though I've done it, I don't know how many times, every time I do it, it's fucking weird.
It's a very strange feeling, and you can shut it off anytime you want.
That's the best part about it.
I love the fact that I can just get out of it.
If you want to do shrooms or something like that, that's a commitment.
I mean, you're in.
doug stanhope
Six, eight hours, and you don't know where you're going, or who's going to call or stop by.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
You're not shaking that.
You're just not.
It's gonna get you.
I tweeted it.
Did you get it?
Beautiful.
Yeah, but the tank, you just get out.
It's awesome.
Just open the door.
It's over.
doug stanhope
I'm sure there's some kind of upkeep that's necessary that I wouldn't do, and I'd forget, and I'd go on the road, and I'd come back, and there's bushes growing in there.
joe rogan
You know what you should do?
You should start a tank center in Bisbee.
doug stanhope
Nobody has money in Bisbee.
joe rogan
It doesn't have to cost a lot of money.
You get like one or two tanks and you just rent them out all day long.
doug stanhope
Yeah, again, people have...
Disability is the biggest form of income there.
joe rogan
I bet insurance will pay for it.
Maybe I made that up.
You should probably check.
I think that they'll...
Well, I think it's a form of therapy, for sure.
doug stanhope
Still, the point is, I'm not good at upkeep.
I know, you don't have to hire somebody.
We have kind of an above-ground pool that is just nothing but algae for eight months out of the year.
joe rogan
That's the grossest...
Dude, I moved into a house once in Encino.
And nobody had lived in it for, I guess, like over a year.
And they didn't do anything with the pool.
And the pool had become this green pond.
And there was schools of mosquito larvae swimming around in the pool.
I was like, what in the fuck is that?
Like, you could see them.
It was the weirdest thing, man.
doug stanhope
That's a problem.
We're getting rid of the fucking thing.
joe rogan
Dude, it was a real problem.
I was looking, I was like, you've got a big stew of life out here.
There were so many mosquitoes, it was crazy.
There were like little schools of fish.
I was like, this is madness.
All these little things are blood-sucking little vampires.
They're going to fly around and find things to bite.
doug stanhope
And where I live, there's no other body of water for 100 miles other than my above-ground pool.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy, those little cunts?
You can't kill them off.
They just find a way to just breed.
Like, back east, they're way worse.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're way worse than they are here.
There's something about the weather out here, I guess, that keeps them in check.
The worst by far is Alaska that I've experienced.
Have you ever experienced?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Holy shit, man.
You get out of the car and they just swarm you.
doug stanhope
Huge.
joe rogan
Huge and super aggressive.
And they only live to be like three months old.
So when they're going for it, they're just fucking going for it.
It's like some wolf shit.
It's like survival of the fittest.
It's the weirdest thing ever.
They're like, they're a different thing.
Like we have an idea.
Oh, mosquitoes.
Yeah, they're annoying.
They get you.
You slap them.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, this is a swarm.
This is hundreds of them in your face, in your eyes, all over your mouth, everywhere, instantly.
doug stanhope
Yeah, we have no-see-ums.
The pool was cool when we got that house.
It's above ground, but it's on a slope, so there's a deck on one side.
So it seems like an above-ground pool, because you're above the pool, but it's still an above-ground pool, and it's only four feet deep or something.
joe rogan
Right.
doug stanhope
But once monsoons hit...
joe rogan
Look at that.
Oh my god.
That's mosquitoes in Alaska.
We're looking at what looks like a swarm of birds.
doug stanhope
That's the worst part about Naked and Afraid, if you ever watch that show, is the bugs.
I could go a month without eating.
I'd do that anyway.
I'm a drunk.
I get my calories from the mixer.
joe rogan
Do you have to stay naked?
Like, can you make clothes?
doug stanhope
I don't know how much they cheat.
Oh, no, they have made clothes.
joe rogan
They have made clothes.
doug stanhope
Yeah, I don't know how much they...
Yeah, the producer says, okay, you can make the beaver cloth, but you can't make a full, like, hoodie.
joe rogan
They do it with every one of those shows.
They'll call those shows reality shows, but there's a certain amount of, like, plotted out ideas.
And you can see them take place.
Like, you can see, like, the act...
You see acting in people.
doug stanhope
I have a whole chunk in the book that I'm here to promote.
See?
But about how I'm glued to reality just to find where they're lying.
Alright, that's obviously...
joe rogan
This is not fame.
I like the name.
doug stanhope
Yeah, I don't know who came up with it.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
Fuck yeah, dude.
You're an author.
Like, a legit author.
How did that happen?
doug stanhope
I don't know.
joe rogan
But you've written two, like, legitimate books.
That's pretty fucking interesting, man.
You're a different kind of person to do that.
Like, that's...
I've always felt like an extra...
One of the things that I love is you actually wrote this, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You wrote, wrote this.
doug stanhope
Yeah, there's no guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And there's nothing wrong with those guys, because that's probably the only way you're going to get a Joey Diaz book, right?
doug stanhope
Right.
Yeah, if a guy's not going to write it, yeah, get a guy.
joe rogan
Get a guy.
doug stanhope
Well, Joey Diaz could sit and tell you all his stories.
joe rogan
Yeah, he could tell them right and if you have a guy I'm just I could never trust anyone to write so hard so hard I've talked to so many authors or writers or journalists even that they'll hand in a piece and then the editor tweaks it and changes it and An editor got fired from the Daily News for doing that pretty recently because the guy had attributions in his story,
the different studies and shit, where he got the information that was in it, whatever the version.
And then he got accused of plagiarism when he has the original document that he sent to the publisher.
doug stanhope
Oh, so the editor was the plagiarist.
joe rogan
The editor just said, we don't need to tell people about that.
They made a weird judgment call, and they removed the references.
doug stanhope
Well, you know, when you do interviews, how often they fuck up what you said.
I remember I was the winner of the Montreal Comedy Festival.
Like, there's no winner in 1997. No one wins.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't understand what that means.
doug stanhope
But yeah, if you read...
Which I don't on purpose now.
You read an interview you did.
I didn't say that.
Now you're making me look like a dick and other comics are gonna see this interview.
And I didn't say it like that.
joe rogan
You're like the only guy that ever won a comedy competition that people don't hate.
You know?
Because you won San Francisco.
doug stanhope
But that was after that was done.
What do you mean?
It wasn't a big deal anymore.
joe rogan
It wasn't a you versus Dane Cook?
doug stanhope
Yeah, but we were both completely unknown at that point.
joe rogan
Right, right.
But still, you weren't unknown in the comedy world.
doug stanhope
But the competition itself in the late 70s, 80s was a huge deal.
That's when Robin Williams and Ellen DeGeneres, by the time I did it, it was me and an unknown Dane Cook and...
joe rogan
Right.
I think competitions are fucking weird when it comes to comedy.
You're changing what it is.
I like the festival idea.
Festival's nice.
We don't have to make it fucking Star Search or whatever.
America's Got Talent.
doug stanhope
It's just shows.
That's what the country wants.
You've got to compete.
Battle Royale.
joe rogan
It did introduce a lot of people when they started doing the stand-up show.
The fuck it is.
doug stanhope
Last Comic Standing?
joe rogan
Yeah, Last Comic Standing was...
The introduction a lot of people got to a lot of good comics.
You know, I mean, that's how people found out about them.
doug stanhope
Yeah, but as long as you know going in that this is rigged.
Yeah.
When you're doing...
Sort of a little bit.
I just did Seattle.
I played up there while the Seattle competition was going on, and a girl I know was in it.
And I had to...
No, first of all, play to yourself.
The judges are going to be people like fucking Morning Show, Hack, AM Sports Talk, DJ, whoever they can get.
It's not real.
Just do your best.
If it makes you work, that's why I liked him back in the day, because it made me work.
It made brevity important.
I have seven minutes.
Cut out the dead weight in this joke.
Hit your fucking beats.
But I knew that it's bullshit.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
doug stanhope
I'm sure I won because I was way cooler than Dane Cook and I hung out and drank with the fucking producers.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Why would you say that?
I mean, wouldn't you just win because you did a great job?
doug stanhope
Really?
joe rogan
A funny comic?
doug stanhope
Human beings aren't...
Is it possible?
joe rogan
But it's San Francisco.
Aren't they a little bit more open-minded and intelligent than the rest of the country?
doug stanhope
Well, the people that hired the judges, the producer, I forget her name, that I hung out with the whole three weeks, and we'd drink and have fun.
joe rogan
That probably helped, but they appreciated you before that.
doug stanhope
I was the judge a year or two later.
joe rogan
Sweetie, I don't like you being self-deprecating.
doug stanhope
When James Inman won, I was a judge.
joe rogan
You're one of my favorite comedians.
It bothers me when you're self-deprecating.
doug stanhope
When James Inman won, I was a judge.
unidentified
Good.
doug stanhope
Any other questions?
joe rogan
He's still a good comic.
James Inman's a funny guy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I see he's funny.
But hey, look, my point is, Last Comic Standing let a lot of people know.
Alonzo Bowden, you know, Heffron, John Heffron.
doug stanhope
Alfie May was the first year he lost to DatFan, which I said on Twitter is what killed him.
He couldn't get over the shame even 20 years later, or 15. Is DatFan still around?
I've looked him up, and I... Every here and again you remember Dat Fan and you search to see and there's occasionally he'd be playing a casino.
joe rogan
He was a guy that I felt like there's some really unbalanced hatred towards.
It was very odd.
When he won last comic standing, people were really mad.
There was a certain percentage of comics that were really mad.
And let me tell you something, I was there when he had a set, and he fucking killed.
He fucking killed.
Whether or not you liked that kind of material or not, there was like, he got a bunch of hatred.
It wasn't just, he was, you know, a young guy, like, wow, what does it create?
Because Eliza won last comic standing when she was like three years in, right?
I think she said, didn't she say that?
Three or four years in, I hope I don't say the wrong years, but I mean that's kind of the same thing along the same lines, right?
Like you're getting in like, but if you do it, you do it.
unidentified
If you win, you win.
doug stanhope
If you get eight minutes to kill, you can break it up.
joe rogan
And for whatever reason, man, people were so pissed at him because he was kind of fresh to comedy, right?
Like he hadn't been doing it that long, right?
doug stanhope
Well, he was ridiculous.
He was one of those scientists that you hate.
He sat down and he'd graph the laughs per minute he's getting based on his recordings of his sets.
joe rogan
He really did that?
doug stanhope
Yeah, on Last Comic Standing.
unidentified
He'd have these graphs of laughs.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
Why do we hate that?
doug stanhope
I don't know.
We were talking about this on a podcast yesterday.
All the people that you were trained to hate were talking about Carrot Top in the 90s.
You hated Carrot Top as a comedian.
You kind of had to hate him.
And then he beat Bill Hicks for some comedy award back when they had comedy awards.
joe rogan
It's also the prop thing.
For whatever reason, a prop comic is a lesser man.
doug stanhope
Right.
Which is so stupid.
He's the last guy that's going to interfere with us.
No one's flipping a coin between Carrot Top and Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, but I think there's enough to go around, even if they were.
I know.
Who gives a shit?
doug stanhope
It's just weird.
But I'm saying, all that hatred, and we were talking about Dennis Leary, who I listened to on Stern, and I really loved the interview.
And I liked Dennis Leary and I realized it was just all that he stole Bill Hicks persona thing that I just hated him for that.
And you get old and you go, I don't really give a shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, and when do you let it go, right?
doug stanhope
Yeah.
joe rogan
When do you let it go?
doug stanhope
Now, when we're old and go, it's just silly.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were joking around before the show about...
I had to send off an email, and you're like, he's probably talking to someone on Twitter.
No, fuck your mother.
Like, imagine being that guy that's just still doing that all the time.
Like, god damn, man, that'll rot.
I talked to Owen Benjamin.
He's like, dude, sometimes I don't sleep.
I'm like, listen to me, man.
You gotta stop doing that.
Because Owen will fucking go to war on Twitter all day.
And Jamie Kilstein.
Jamie Kilstein was on, and he was pretty open about how he would be...
When he was all social justice warrior-ed out, he'd get crazy with his phone and these arguments where he couldn't think of anything but.
He was constantly pulling his phone out and checking.
What did they say?
What did they say?
Well, fuck them, you fucking cisgender piece of shit or whatever the fuck it would be.
You get mad with it.
You get obsessed.
I just say, don't do it, folks.
Avoid arguments.
In real life and on Twitter.
doug stanhope
Especially when you're arguing down.
joe rogan
You might be.
You might be going to war with someone who's on your own level.
doug stanhope
Yeah, argue up.
There's a couple of recent things where friends of mine are arguing...
You know that you look like a fucking open-miker when you have these arguments in business with people who are far your underlings.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's just...
I mean, I just really feel like we should try for meaningful discussion with friendly people and just figure out what the fuck we disagree on.
doug stanhope
But that's where I get trapped, is I'm the guy that when the Jehovah's Witness comes to my door, if I'm in the mood, I'm gonna prove him wrong.
And the less sense they make, the harder that fucking wood is to knock on, the more...
joe rogan
Dude, that used to be my thing.
I'd always want to argue with people, especially if someone had some ridiculous religious belief.
I would always argue with them about it.
And now I'm like, I don't care.
I think it helps a lot of people.
I really do.
And even if they're not right, here's the thing.
If you live like it's true, it is right while you're alive.
If you live like it's true.
We look at it almost from two dimensions when there's multiple dimensions to the idea of religion.
Because even though it probably...
There was never a time where a guy came back from the dead.
There's probably never a time where a guy walked on water.
But if you buy the idea of this person and this person's goal for humanity and move toward...
The direction's like moving towards love and compassion and treating each other as equals.
I mean, that's like the whole Jesus thing.
So even if it never really happened...
doug stanhope
Yeah, if it's a weird superstition that was the catalyst to make you a decent person...
joe rogan
Yeah, I think like all human things, it gets poisoned along the way.
But the idea behind it, even if you don't think it's true, if you treat it like it's true, it is true.
Like, you really will make a better world.
It sounds like super hippie...
doug stanhope
No, that's twisty wordy shit.
If you have some mental illness that makes you believe...
That you're driving a Cadillac.
You're driving a fucking Cadillac.
joe rogan
But you know how we have laws and we have like certain ways that we behave and we have just like agreements with how we dress and the words we use and the phrases.
If there was a religion that was all super positive that we just all agree to adopt just the same way we adopt all the other things that we do in our lives.
All the other normal shit we do with the way we decide to dress or cars we drive, just adopt that in there too.
This is just how we behave.
We behave as if we are souls in a vessel created by the Great One who knows everything and has a plan for us all and we should be kind to each other and move in the direction of love and harmony.
That's basically what all...
doug stanhope
Well, then there'd be some cocksucker that says, oh, yeah, that great entity just spoke to me directly in my bedroom, and we're going to have a different sect of this perfect religion.
joe rogan
There's a fucking funny show on Netflix about that.
The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
She's a woman who's in a sex cult, who's in a backyard, trapped in a basement for months with some...
I don't know how many years it was supposed to be.
It's a really funny show, though.
Have you seen it?
doug stanhope
Wait, is it a show?
unidentified
Yeah, it's a show.
joe rogan
It's a sitcom on Netflix.
It's called The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
I think Tina Fey is one of the...
People, the creative people behind it.
It's a fucking funny show, man.
Like, really fun.
doug stanhope
I am so overdue to get caught up on Netflix binges.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Yeah.
doug stanhope
It seems like it's been two years of just something I gotta do.
joe rogan
I need new ones.
doug stanhope
I need to catch up on old ones.
Plug, Nathan For You.
Have you watched Nathan For You on Comedy Central?
joe rogan
No, what is it?
doug stanhope
It's one of the funniest fucking shows ever.
Completely underrated.
You have to understand what it is going in.
It's basically like a bar rescue, but a fake...
It's basically a hidden camera show, but open hidden camera.
It's like a bar rescue kitchen nightmare.
It's Nathan...
God damn it.
Google it.
Nathan something Jewish.
Nathan Fielder?
Nathan Fielder.
And he's...
It's for small business.
He helps small businesses.
This guy.
He's so uncomfortable to watch.
I can't do it justice.
You have to watch Nathan for You.
So these people with small businesses think it's a real show, and they come on and he helps them with their problems.
And it's so amazingly layered in...
Watch the one with the guy that has the TV shop that can't compete with Best Buy.
And there's so many layers...
joe rogan
I put it on my phone.
I trust you implicitly.
doug stanhope
Please, watch it and then tweet about it, because it's fucking brilliant, and I'll just embarrass it by trying to explain it.
joe rogan
If there's anything, any problem that I have with Netflix, is that sometimes I don't know what I'm looking for.
You know, like, there's a lot of shows that turned out like, whoa, there's four seasons of this?
And you never heard of it.
Like, maybe it's just me.
Maybe I'm that.
And it's totally possible.
Because there's always some fucking new musical artist.
And I go, who the fuck is that?
And I'll go to their Instagram page, and they have 14 million followers.
And I'm like, oh, it's me.
I'm that old man.
I'm that old man who doesn't know jack shit.
doug stanhope
We had the Uber coming here was this old, probably Armenian guy, probably 60s.
joe rogan
Racist.
doug stanhope
Triggered.
Stop the show.
He's listening to what I assume he thinks people want to listen to.
And it's all this shit.
I couldn't name you a fucking Jay-Z from a...
That kind of shit.
I don't know any of it.
And I'm about to say, hey, you don't have to play this for us.
But then I saw him lip-syncing to the lyrics and tapping his fingers on the steering wheel.
I'm like, wow, how out of the loop am I if fucking 60-year-old foreign Uber drivers know all the words to these fucking songs?
joe rogan
But you've never been a music guy.
doug stanhope
No.
joe rogan
You don't like music?
doug stanhope
No, it's not something to...
joe rogan
How's that possible?
doug stanhope
I mean, I have songs I like.
joe rogan
Kimmy, what's a great song?
Like, Doug Stanhope hears you, oh yeah, sits back.
doug stanhope
Most of the new songs that I've learned, I've either heard playing in a store or on a commercial.
And I go, ah, that's catchy.
Cha-cha-cha-cha-cha, don't you know that I love you?
Yeah.
Cha-cha-cha by Jimmy Luxury.
joe rogan
Is that real?
doug stanhope
Yeah, it's from, like, 1997. It was on the soundtrack of the movie Go, and then they disappeared.
You can't even find where the band is now, but it was on a Corona commercial.
unidentified
Wow.
doug stanhope
And I love it, and I use it as intro music all the time.
It pumps me up.
There you go.
Sing a song.
joe rogan
Whoa, give me some volume.
doug stanhope
See?
I'm just seeing the video on mute.
I'm into this song.
joe rogan
This is great.
doug stanhope
He's gonna have to have headphones.
joe rogan
This is great.
doug stanhope
I like how these gals are dressed like they're 1950s cover girls.
joe rogan
What is about that look, right?
That cover, you know, pin-up girl, that's what it's called.
1950s pin-up girl type of look.
What is it about that?
doug stanhope
I don't know.
Maybe it makes fat chicks look good.
joe rogan
How dare you?
Doug Stanhope, do you not realize- It was a different day and age!
You can't say that anymore.
Those days are done.
doug stanhope
What's wrong with a fat girl looking good?
What's wrong with you, you waitist?
joe rogan
I just found out what ableist means.
Do you know what ableist?
I saw someone write ableist.
I'm like, do I really want to go into this one?
doug stanhope
It's got to be handicapable.
joe rogan
Exactly.
If you're a person that doesn't have a mental deficit.
If you're mocking someone who is literally stupider than you.
doug stanhope
Low watt gurgler in a high back chair.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You're an ableist.
If you call people idiots, you're an ableist.
doug stanhope
Yep.
What about humor?
That was my last special.
I did a whole bit about it.
It's called the euphemism treadmill, where you can't say retarded because, but retarded was the clinical term because before that they were called imbeciles and morons.
joe rogan
Well, they were called mongoloid idiots.
doug stanhope
Yeah, and then it was for kids with down and they kept changing it and then we kept making fun of them with the new name So they had to change the new name to something else and then we'd make fun of with the new name The punchline to the entire long bit was you know if you went straight clinical definition American Medical Association and you said oh and you made that stick and That's what I'm going to make fun of you for when you slip on a banana peel.
Oh, you just exhibited some of the lantoaxial instability usually associated with the trisomy 21 genetic disorder, you fucking stooge.
That's not funny.
unidentified
My son was bored with the trisomy 21 chromosomal imbalance.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's certain things you can make fun of though, right?
doug stanhope
Yes.
joe rogan
White people.
White people are a fair game.
You can be racist as fuck.
doug stanhope
Sure.
joe rogan
Especially if you're a white guy.
You hate white people.
doug stanhope
Like making fun of lawyers.
They laugh along with you because they own everything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Lawyers are a good one to make fun of.
But you can make fun of Jews.
doug stanhope
Well, yeah, Jew is just one of those words where it's all in the inflection as to whether or not...
You fucking Jew!
unidentified
Whoa!
doug stanhope
Right.
It's all about the Jews.
Hey, you know, the Jews are people that...
Well, that's fine.
But if you say, Jew!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, if you say, I'm all about Jews, that's okay.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm all about Jews.
I just like hanging out with Jews.
That's it.
doug stanhope
Only Jews.
Hey, you're in the right town.
joe rogan
Like, you'd be okay.
Like, that's alright.
People accept that.
But if you're like, God, I'm tired of all these Jews.
Unacceptable.
Unacceptable.
Well, I overdosed on Jews.
I was just around nothing but Jews for, like, months.
And then I just saw a few too many.
I wanted Armenian in my life for a few days.
I want to talk to some guy.
doug stanhope
I never do sets.
If I come to town and I'm hanging at the comedy store, it's to talk to you and drink in the back bar and hang out.
Hey, do you want to do a set?
No fucking way do I ever want to do a set for normal people.
I paid my fucking dues.
I made my bones to have a small niche fan base that are unoffendable.
joe rogan
Doug, I got news for you, okay?
I hate to do this to you again, but they're here.
Like, your fans are here.
Your fans are in LA. They would love it if you did a set there.
Like, it's not like they wouldn't go.
They're there.
Like, you have a lot of fans, you fuckhead.
Stop it with this small niche group.
That's horseshit.
People know you're funny.
I'm tired of this.
doug stanhope
I'm talking about when it's just a mixed bill of fucking scattershot.
joe rogan
There's 400 people.
I bet 320 of them are your fans.
doug stanhope
First of all, you know this.
Well, you still do some shit.
I saw you, last time I saw you, you were doing one of those weird shows where people just called out premises.
joe rogan
Yeah, stand up on the spot.
doug stanhope
And you fucking destroyed it, and you told me afterwards none of that was planned.
You had none of that in your holster.
All of that was off the top of your head, which is fantastic.
joe rogan
I was high as a kite.
I barely knew what I was saying.
doug stanhope
But for me to do material, I can't do 15 minutes.
I have one bit that's 15 minutes.
joe rogan
Just give me a hug.
Just give me a mental hug.
Just come into the embrace of the Comedy Store.
Just stop this Bisbee nonsense.
doug stanhope
Why would I do it outside of my own comfort zone?
joe rogan
You are in your comfort zone.
Your comfort zone is everywhere.
unidentified
It's an illusion.
doug stanhope
If I went up on stage, if I came to town, which I rarely do...
I get to see you and a million people I never see, all in one room.
joe rogan
And everybody loves to see you, too.
doug stanhope
But if I went on stage, then I would have this whole anxiety, well, that sucked, and then I'd be apologizing for my set.
Oh, great set, says Greg Proops or someone, and then you're like, it wasn't good, I forgot this tag and that tag, and I... Rather than just hanging out and enjoying myself, so fuck a set.
joe rogan
You know, here's the thing though, and I'm gonna say this with all sincerity, there's more understanding and camaraderie at the store right now than any place I've ever been at any time.
And even when we have bad sets, like people, some of them have a bad set and like, how was it?
Dude, I did not connect with those people.
Like, someone will say, you know, we'll be talking about what went wrong.
doug stanhope
Rather do it in Fayetteville, Arkansas, than the comedy store in front of my peers.
I'd rather eat shit somewhere no one will see it.
joe rogan
You talk about it, and you learn something from it.
And it's like, it's a weird environment, but it fosters new shit.
It fosters new ideas and taglines.
doug stanhope
Which I was going to say about Twitter battles.
I got so much good material out of fighting these...
Whatever it was at the time, MySpace, Twitter, Facebook, before that, newsgroups, and getting into these angry, ugly arguments.
I'm writing.
I'm writing paragraphs in defense of, and guess what?
Oh, I have 15 minutes because some stooge annoyed me on an alt.comedy.standup newsgroup.
And I spent all night fighting, accidentally wrote a new act.
joe rogan
That's actually probably a good use of it.
If you could...
See, you and I are very different in that regard.
I would rather just not talk to those people.
But if you did want to go to war, which I used to do, you can get some material out of that, for sure, because you're forcing yourself to think.
Like, any time you're forcing yourself to...
Like, I've found that, like, the best shit that I ever write, I write completely freeform.
Where I don't know, I'll just start thinking about any subject and just start writing.
I'm not specifically trying to write jokes, and on the way, I can kind of suck those jokes out of there.
Do you do that?
doug stanhope
It depends on the premise, but the best premises I have, I write like a defense attorney.
That's a great way to look at it.
And then you can plug in the jokes afterwards.
Once the justice has left the courtroom, all rise, then you put in the fistfuck jokes.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a gut.
It's super important to have a balance, right?
And you've got to find out where that balance is, like when you can get away with a premise.
You've got to stack it just right.
You stack it the wrong way, one way, and you look like you're patronizing and you're full of shit.
Stack it the wrong way the other way, you look like you're a sexist or a Republican in secret.
doug stanhope
Oh man, do I have notes.
The new current current climate.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure, right?
Imagine working for a television show.
I wanted to bring this up.
I'm glad we just got to talking about this.
Sam Seder got fired yesterday.
doug stanhope
I missed this, so clue me in.
I just saw someone on Twitter saying...
joe rogan
Sam Seder, who's a heavy left-wing fellow who was apparently in some sort of a dispute with the alt-right I don't know what was going on.
I think it was about Roy Moore.
There's one of those things.
And they pulled up a tweet of his and took it out of context from 2009. Yeah, that's what I read.
And the tweet was, I'm going to paraphrase it.
I don't want to fuck it up.
Actually, Jamie, pull it up so we can find the exact tweet.
doug stanhope
You know that if you paraphrase it, you're going to sound funnier than he would.
unidentified
Ah!
doug stanhope
It wasn't that funny, Rogan!
joe rogan
I don't want to edit your act.
If I was going to edit your act, this is how I would say it.
Did you find it?
Here's essentially what it is, if you can't find it.
You've got to find it, because I don't want to fuck this up.
doug stanhope
I can't tell you how many times I've told Hennigan about, no, this comic, you've got to see, this is a great comic, they do this bit, and I do the bit for him, and he's like, oh, that's funny.
And then he sees them, he's like, oh, you do it so much better.
joe rogan
That other guy's got too many words.
He's using too many words.
unidentified
That was Irish and lilted into retarded.
joe rogan
Distracting you with the middle premise.
doug stanhope
Oh, that's not funny.
joe rogan
But anyway, MSNBC got a swarm of emails.
These people attacked.
These alt-right fellows attacked and started saying that this guy had tweeted, which is essentially a rape joke, and that we would never sponsor you and we're going to contact your sponsors.
This is what he said.
You've got a thing covering over the...
It's a picture of it.
Don't care R.E. Polanski, but I hope if my daughter is ever raped, it is by an older, truly talented man with a great sense of mise-en-scene.
I don't know.
What it is, here's part of the problem.
He deleted this, which he regrets doing, but it's a part of a series of tweets.
All of them that criticize people's support of Roman Polanski, because Roman Polanski had raped kids, but he did really good films.
And he was like, do you know how fucking disgusting that is?
He was essentially saying, this is a horrific way to look at this.
Like, this guy raped a baby, right?
He raped a 13-year-old.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
So, this was a part of a series of tweets all expressing this, and that was clearly satire.
And MSNBC capitulated, and they fired him.
And I, you know, I don't know him.
I know people who do know him, some that like him, you know.
And it's...
I just...
I don't have a dog in this fight, but that's crazy.
That's crazy.
If you look at what the joke was, and the fact that he deleted it, and then on top of that...
doug stanhope
Is he apologizing for it?
joe rogan
No, he's not.
He's not.
What he did was he made a video explaining what the joke was, why he said it, and the fact that it was a part of a series of tweets that he said.
But it doesn't matter.
What's that fucking outrage machine?
I was just asked if I regret my tweet from 2009. I regret laziness led me to delete it.
I would never regret criticizing rape apologists.
And I agree with that.
doug stanhope
Fantastic.
joe rogan
I don't know Sam Seder.
doug stanhope
I don't either, but I know that he could probably start a podcast and make a decent living and not have to work for someone who's going to fire him.
joe rogan
Well, I think he has his own show, Minority Report, right?
Isn't that his own show?
Is that his own internet show?
Plug it!
Yeah.
And here's the other thing.
He had a dispute more than once, I believe, with my good friend Sam Harris.
And he accused Sam Harris of being Islamophobic.
Sam Harris is a neuroscientist.
Some people don't like that term.
They don't...
He's an author.
He has a podcast.
He's essentially an intellectual.
Very, very, very smart guy.
One of the smartest guys I've ever had on my podcast.
doug stanhope
So what was their beef?
joe rogan
Sam Harris believes that all ideologies are inherently dangerous and Islam is very problematic.
And many people on the left think that when you criticize Islam, that you are some sort of a racist.
You're akin to a racist.
Whereas if you criticize Christianity, you're someone who's just not a rube.
He gets to that weird thing because of brown skin and people's desire to not be perceived as racist.
So they go way overboard with it.
doug stanhope
Which is what's happening with the Me Too thing, where you go, I see all the benefits of people coming out, and it's putting the fear into fucking everybody.
Who did I fuck 20 years ago?
unidentified
Go ahead.
joe rogan
But I just wanted to, for Sam's sake, he's not a racist by any stretch of the imagination.
He doesn't like ideologies.
He doesn't like something that makes you think that God wants you to kill people.
He doesn't want, I mean, whether or not you interpret that the way the Christians do, I mean, there's not a lot of people killing people over some shit from the fucking Old Testament.
You know, there's no one out there enacting the rage of God for people wearing two different types of cloth, right?
doug stanhope
Because Christians are generally better off Financially.
Yeah, once you get a lot of fucking toys, and yeah, you dismiss a lot of that, I should kill myself in the name of blank.
joe rogan
That's a fucking good point, you know, and I've always wondered.
If you look at, like, the Middle East, you're not looking at, like, lush tropical forests and beautiful beaches like Brazil, you know, where everybody's happy and they want to play fucking volleyball on the beach and do jiu-jitsu.
Everybody's having a party.
doug stanhope
No, it's not...
Yeah, they still wear the garb, but then once they get behind the gold-plated palace doors, yeah, there's dicks swinging and fucking champagne flowing.
joe rogan
But outside, it's all just sand.
doug stanhope
Right.
And poor people that have nothing better.
That's why Jesus works in the Mideast, I mean Midwest, where you're in fucking Indiana and you have...
Fields to plow and it's gonna be shitty, gray, angry weather.
And yeah, maybe Jesus is the only thing getting you through another year, another harvest.
joe rogan
And you put a marble on the highway and it just sits there.
You thump it, it doesn't keep rolling.
There's no hills, bitch.
There's no hills.
doug stanhope
It's the fucking worst.
Indiana's the worst state in the fucking country.
joe rogan
But even in Indiana, if they found gold and it became like Qatar or some shit, they just, you know, they found oil.
They found like some crazy new patch of oil.
And all of a sudden they started building the world's tallest building there and all the same kind of shit they do in Dubai.
I mean, Dubai apparently is insane now.
They have indoor surfing things in Dubai.
In the middle of that, you get a surfboard and you're indoor surfing.
You could ski indoors.
They have indoor skiing in Dubai.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
And you're gonna have that here in the compound.
Do you have a name for this new studio establishment?
It's kind of worn.
joe rogan
Yeah, plus I think Anthony Cumia.
Anthony Cumia, who I have to give his props to, he's probably the reason why I started a podcast.
It was, first of all, because he was a part of Opie and Anthony, which was the first time I ever thought, like, I really like doing radio.
The way Opie and Anthony did it.
It was great.
We would come in.
You love doing it too, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
doug stanhope
Yeah, but I remember first doing it going, wow, am I the shitty episode?
Because no one really talked a lot.
joe rogan
We just had fun.
doug stanhope
I know.
It took me a minute to, oh, they just decided to do what they wanted to do with radio.
I just thought I was boring because there's no bells and whistles and fake laughs.
joe rogan
To this day, I don't think Opie and Anthony got the credit that it deserved.
Because I think that they let us...
They're the best show.
They were the best show ever.
They don't exist anymore, unfortunately.
But they were the best show ever to go on as a comic.
doug stanhope
Do they exist?
joe rogan
In their own world, they do.
Anthony does.
doug stanhope
He still has his thing.
joe rogan
OP was recently fired.
I don't know what is his status.
doug stanhope
I didn't know if he started his own...
I don't know if he can.
I don't know if Norton's still doing his thing with Sam.
joe rogan
Norton is.
Norton's still doing his thing with Sam and Norton does a thing with the UFC, too.
He does UFC Uncensored with Matt Serra, which is hilarious.
And Norton also does the Chip Chipperson podcast.
He does all that on his own now.
doug stanhope
Yeah, I've never listened to it, but I've been tweeted about it enough to know that it's a character.
joe rogan
Oh, it's hilarious.
It's so uncomfortable.
It's so good.
It's one of my favorite things that he does.
It's fucking amazing.
You want to see a video of it?
doug stanhope
Not right now.
We're in a live broadcast.
joe rogan
I know, but I'll pull it up sometimes.
doug stanhope
I hated making people listen to 30 seconds of cha-cha-cha.
joe rogan
It was good.
I liked it.
Let people know.
A lot of people don't know.
There's a lot of shit people don't know.
doug stanhope
You know?
joe rogan
There's only one way to find out.
Someone has to tell you.
doug stanhope
I find out from commercials.
joe rogan
That'll help.
That'll work, you know?
doug stanhope
I know Corona still sucks as a beer, but I like the song that you use.
Thank you.
joe rogan
Wow, how dare you.
doug stanhope
Are they a sponsor?
joe rogan
I like a Corona with lime.
If I'm in some tropical climate and I want a beer, but I don't really want a beer.
I want a soda, but I want to stay drunk.
doug stanhope
You know what a Moscow mule is?
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that?
doug stanhope
It's some drink, but there was a surplus of copper at the time, so the guy, in order to get rid of copper, said, oh, you have to drink it out of a copper cup, and it was just a big ruse, and now copper, it's going to be in a copper cup, and I don't know how they did that with Corona and a lime.
Oh, no, you put a lime in this beer.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true, right?
Why does it have a lime?
Every now and then, someone sticks a lime in a Dos Equis, and you're like, what?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Like, what is this?
What is this?
doug stanhope
Wow, you've become judgmental in your whole beer drinking years.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get weird.
You know, I get weird when it comes to drinks.
But Corona's not a bad beer.
It's just not a strong beer.
doug stanhope
It's fine.
joe rogan
When I'm in a place that's dark, I like to drink real shit.
I like to drink like an IPA or a Guinness or Jack Daniels.
That's what I like to drink in a dark...
I like a dark wood environment with some shitty neon lights.
doug stanhope
Your studio is a great dark...
This is a bar that I would go to.
joe rogan
I would go to here.
doug stanhope
Dark, hardwood bar.
joe rogan
It's a little bright.
I'd be like, it's kind of annoying in this place.
If, like, you know, cameras weren't on, we'd considerably tone this down.
doug stanhope
Well, for day drinking, this is...
No, if you came out of that bright sunlight...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This would be calmer.
doug stanhope
You came into this, you go, oh, brick...
joe rogan
Especially if it's hot outside, which by the way, it might get hot here any minute now.
There is a fucking fire in Ventura, and the winds are insane right now, and the fire through Ventura is just tearing things apart.
doug stanhope
I've got the alert on my phone and the Uber drive over.
unidentified
Be careful.
doug stanhope
Warning, warning.
joe rogan
It's bad, man.
I mean, it is bad.
And it scares the shit out of me.
doug stanhope
You have kids somewhere.
joe rogan
Yes, there's that, for sure.
But what scares the shit out of me is that in the short term, I think most people are going to get out of there if they prepare and move accordingly.
But you've got to realize what this is.
This is something that when you get a fire this size, it's burned.
Back that up a little bit so you can get the numbers.
Just in today, it's burned 45,000 acres, destroyed at least 150 structures, and forced 27,000 people to evacuate.
And they can't stop it.
They don't have enough manpower.
When something is this big and it's this strong and the winds are this fucking crazy, you look at how those trees are blowing over sideways and these fucking houses are up in flames.
doug stanhope
How do they even have enough water?
joe rogan
I have no idea.
doug stanhope
Where I live.
City Hall just burned down.
The City Hall building and just them putting the fire out, everyone's water went out.
There was not enough water.
You couldn't turn on your taps because they used it all to put out City Hall.
joe rogan
I wonder if there's like a chart where you could see, where you could go back to 9-11 and then post 9-11, how many women got impregnated by firefighters?
Like how many...
Because remember when firefighters, like after 9-11, remember they were real heroes?
doug stanhope
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
People have kind of like taken them for granted until they do something to actually save your house.
doug stanhope
I used to do that bit about after 9-11, firefighters and cops were getting so much hero pussy, they were launching it like a rotted octopus out of...
What do you call those?
Slingshots?
They'd have to swat them down with tennis rackets.
I had this whole bit about hero pussy.
joe rogan
So true, right?
doug stanhope
Yeah.
Well, then the war came, and that was, I think, the bit.
All the troops are getting the hero pussy that 9-11 first responders used to get, and now they're just hanging around bars going, remember me?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Do you know, Google has this crazy thing on its phone that I was paying attention to recently, where you say something, like, hello, my name is Doug Stanhope, and then it translates it out loud to someone else, like through your phone.
They talk to your phone, and they'll say, you know, and they go through the thing, it translates it, and then it changes it in your ear to what English is, the English version of that.
unidentified
Babblefish.
joe rogan
What's it called, Babblefish?
unidentified
No, but that's what it was on the Hitchhiker's Gate of the Galaxy.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
doug stanhope
So, Applefish.
unidentified
Yeah.
doug stanhope
I saw this.
joe rogan
It's a new feature on this phone called the Google Pixel.
And I said, I don't think people...
And you have to have these Pixel earbuds that do it.
Or you can actually do it through the phone, I think, without the earbuds.
But...
I don't think people understand how crazy this is.
They're just starting this thing out.
It used to be you couldn't really talk to your phone.
Now you could do a Google search by just pressing that speaker button and say, who is Brian Hennigan?
And then it will boop!
In seconds, it'll pull up your Wikipedia, who is Doug Stanhope, in seconds.
If they can do this thing right, we're going to have a thing in our ear, like a little earbud, and you're going to be able to talk to people all over the fucking planet.
It's going to get super strange.
People that speak Arabic languages, people in South America...
doug stanhope
So many of these technological advances, I think about you and your bits back in the day.
Why do they have all these things on the cell phone that replace what a cell phone is?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, the idea was like, why are you making me read?
doug stanhope
Yeah, text me.
It takes me four buttons to make an S. Call me.
Just call me.
joe rogan
Back then, I would have never thought that text messaging would become popular.
Like, there's a bit that you could never do today.
I could only do that bit in 2005. Yeah.
When it was real, like, people were starting to send you text messages.
Like, what the fuck is this?
You would get it on your phone and you'd go, why don't you just call me, stupid?
Why are you making me reply with my thumb?
doug stanhope
Like, real slow and awkward.
Well, that's because it shows how much you don't really want to talk to your friends.
I don't want to have to say, hey, how you been?
What's going on?
How's the kids?
How's your sister?
I just need one simple response.
joe rogan
I respect Joey Diaz for that.
Joey Diaz will not do that with you.
And I think he's right.
I've been thinking about it more and more lately.
I have these weird text message conversations with people.
I'm like...
Why am I even doing this?
I need to look at you.
You need to know I like you.
Like, we're friends.
doug stanhope
If we're gonna socialize, don't fucking text me.
Hey, how's it going?
That's a bar conversation.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that.
doug stanhope
See me in a bar.
I don't want to sit and catch up via text.
joe rogan
Hey.
How about that one?
doug stanhope
Been a long time.
joe rogan
Hey.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
joe rogan
How about just hey?
doug stanhope
Yeah, hey.
joe rogan
Fuck is this?
What are you, 12?
Your kid getting my phone?
Your kid's got my phone number, motherfucker?
What's going on?
doug stanhope
See me in a bar and then sit down and say, hey.
Are you 12?
unidentified
And I'll go, what?
joe rogan
Hey.
Hi.
You can say that to your friend.
Like, hey.
Hey.
doug stanhope
Usually that's the extent of what I have to say anyway.
You got it all out of the way.
High five.
You can't high five on text, but you probably have an emoji.
joe rogan
You can't hey on text.
You know what you definitely can't do?
You can't yo.
You lazy fuck.
You want to talk?
You ain't got shit to say.
Yo.
doug stanhope
I need affirmation that we're still friends.
It's kind of part of the business.
We're not going to be close friends over a quarter of a century just because of text messaging.
I don't live in your town.
joe rogan
You're going to lose brownie points if you just type yo.
You're going to have to have, like, yo, are we still having lunch?
Yo, are we going to the game?
doug stanhope
Yeah, I texted you a week ago, hey, what time are we doing that podcast?
Because he's supposed to set up other shit around it, but I've said in parentheses that I don't want to do.
So I'm glad you didn't get back to me.
joe rogan
I'm so glad I helped you.
doug stanhope
Yes, you did.
Am I procrastinating?
Rogan's podcasts are like nine hours, and we're not going to be able to fill other ones in.
joe rogan
It's unfortunate.
But what is fortunate is, this is not fame.
It's available right now, ladies and gentlemen.
doug stanhope
Joe Rogan's stories are in there.
joe rogan
Oh, beautiful.
unidentified
It has an index.
doug stanhope
I do have a lot of fucking name drops in there.
joe rogan
We had some good times.
You know, the story that we were talking about in question, you have to read about in the book.
But it involves Doug Stanhope and I in the desert, the day of the war.
doug stanhope
I'm sure we've talked about it on the podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I know we have.
Too many times, bro.
doug stanhope
And then afterwards, going to that Lakers game a few days later.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a weird one, right?
doug stanhope
Yeah.
In the height of 9-11, patriotic fever.
joe rogan
I was like, this is nuts.
You guys are going crazy.
Like, you're standing up for a basketball game.
doug stanhope
This is, I remember when you picked me up at Curzon for that game, you had a, I don't know, an SUV of some kind.
It was probably a Suburban.
Was that the one I was pissing out the door?
joe rogan
I think it was a Yukon Denali.
Yeah, I had a white Yukon Denali, and you were pissing out the door while we were high on mushrooms, going 65 miles an hour down the highway.
Doug's got the door open, and he's like pissing out the door.
He probably pissed all over my truck.
doug stanhope
But this is as the war is kicking off.
That's 2003, I believe.
joe rogan
Yeah, we saw the war.
We saw the war kick off.
doug stanhope
Like it was the Super Bowl.
Like it was planned.
I spell all this out.
joe rogan
But you said it.
I remember you said it.
You said, oh my god, there's a kickoff.
We were...
doug stanhope
This is how ahead of the curve Joe Rogan was with technology.
Because when you picked me up in that, that's the first time I heard GPS say...
In 400 feet, take a right onto the 101. And also, you had cell phone video because you videotaped me pissing out your door.
Yeah, I did.
That's 2003!
joe rogan
That was 2003. You know the best picture I ever took on my cell phone?
This is like affirmed the need to have a camera on you at all times.
I was in downtown LA and there was this overweight black hooker with a crazy wig on and sunglasses and she was eating a meatball sub.
And I looked over, and she goes, Hey, baby!
And she pulls her tit out, and she's got her tit in one hand, and I took a picture of this.
See if you can find that.
I know it's out there.
I know it's out there.
I couldn't...
It looked so amazing.
I couldn't believe it.
And I took it with one of those Motorola flip phones back in 2000. Because we were filming Fear Factor, downtown LA. And this lady was walking around with her tit out.
I was like, this is hilarious.
She was smiling at me, like laughing.
And I took a picture of her with her tit out, and...
To me, to this day, it's like, now I know why I love technology.
doug stanhope
Back then they wouldn't even know that you're taking a picture.
joe rogan
Nobody knew anything.
Nobody knew anything.
It was like, to think that just a few years later the iPhone would come out, you know?
2007 the iPhone comes out, and now you can't imagine anybody not having one of your things.
If you're around someone and they don't have a smartphone, you look at it like they're some kind of freak.
doug stanhope
Becker is the only one.
Matt Becker, my oldest, best friend from forever, still doesn't have a cell phone.
joe rogan
Yeah, my friend Steve doesn't have a phone.
His wife fucking hates it.
There it is.
That's the picture.
That's a real picture.
Please take a screenshot of that and save it for me because I keep losing it.
doug stanhope
Why do you say that's a wig?
joe rogan
That makes me so happy.
But come on, son.
Look at that picture.
She's enormous.
She's got a meatball sub in her hand.
It's the perfect picture.
Jamie, I want you to order up a large HD version of this.
Have some scientist convert that.
We're going to make a poster out of that.
That needs to be on the wall.
100%.
doug stanhope
At least a meme.
unidentified
I can't put it on YouTube, by the way.
doug stanhope
If nothing else, a meme.
joe rogan
No, don't put it on YouTube.
But you've got to remind me of this.
Get the crew on it.
We need that photo on our wall.
That's one of my happiest moments.
I swear to God, I went back to work, I was fucking howling laughing.
Because that lady was funny.
She looked at me, she went, you want some of this?
And she pulls her tit out, and then she smiles and starts laughing at me.
All the while she's eating a meatball sub.
unidentified
That's a great picture.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful person.
doug stanhope
She's palming that sub like it's a 45 in an Old West shootout.
joe rogan
And God help her tit.
The way she's got a death grip on that tit, it's like she's got some sort of a cobra choke on it.
doug stanhope
Yeah, that's how I have to choke my dick to keep it up when I'm drunk.
joe rogan
You get the, almost like you're holding a pool cue, like you're making a bridge, you're pinching down on your dick.
unidentified
Ah, you fucker, you stay hard.
joe rogan
You fight the booze.
Fight the booze, Mr. Penis.
Yeah, that's a great picture, though.
That's an important moment for me.
Because I'm like, okay, now I know why I'm into this stuff.
It was so I could capture that picture.
I was happy for days.
I remember looking at it going, that's real!
Like, I always see those.
You see those crazy pictures online?
You're like, who took that?
What happened?
But I took that.
I was there.
Like, that was real.
Like, it was real.
I didn't pay that lady.
It just happened to be.
I said hi to her.
I had my phone out.
And she looked at me and pulled her tit out.
And I hit the camera button and I got it.
It's like, it wasn't supposed to happen.
unidentified
That is your sailor kissing the girl in Times Square.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Hennigan.
You're right.
doug stanhope
Planting the flag at Iwo Jima.
joe rogan
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
I'll accept that.
I feel like it's my magnum opus.
I'm not joking.
It might have been the best thing I've ever done.
doug stanhope
Rogan needs a cocktail.
I got ice right here.
joe rogan
I don't like that that lady is doing that for a living.
I don't.
doug stanhope
She's not doing it for a living anymore.
joe rogan
Probably dead.
But I wish her prosperity and happiness, and I hope she found Jesus the next moment after I took that picture.
But...
You can't fix everybody.
Sometimes you just gotta let people be crazy.
doug stanhope
I remember several people, women of a certain age or look, where they go, yeah, what else am I gonna do?
I'm gonna suck dicks for a living, I'm gonna go out on the street, and you go, you couldn't.
No one's...
But then you watch like Cops or something where you see a lady like that that's getting caught in a pickup truck sucking some old dude's dick and you go, I guess you could.
If she could, you could.
joe rogan
You could.
doug stanhope
She's empowering to women is what I'm saying.
joe rogan
It entirely depends with the male on how horny you are.
Because if you're crazy horny...
doug stanhope
I've done some bad things.
joe rogan
We'll do some terrible things.
We're monsters.
doug stanhope
Bad things.
joe rogan
Bad, bad animals.
It's a bad design.
The design where you have to get rid of cum all the time is a terrible design.
It would be way better if it was like tears.
doug stanhope
I do quote you a lot.
It's an old bit of yours that I quote a lot.
Is your post-cum depression?
Is that how it goes?
joe rogan
Post-nut depression.
Yeah.
doug stanhope
That feeling that...
Which is so...
I really believed I liked her.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
doug stanhope
It wasn't until, and as the semen is rifling out of you, you go, oh, oh, I misled her.
joe rogan
I know.
doug stanhope
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
I misled myself.
doug stanhope
Which, that's where you get scared with the Me Too thing.
unidentified
Hmm.
doug stanhope
I know I didn't rape anyone, but how many times might I have led a woman astray with promises of everlasting love and harmony just because I was drunk and wanted to fuck her and then didn't call.
I was inappropriate afterwards.
I didn't do the, hey, I don't think we're right for each other.
And she's stewing about it somewhere.
You can't me too me.
joe rogan
Yeah, it definitely can happen like that, right?
It's like you've got to leave room for all possibilities.
Because I think that to trust everyone that comes forward with a story, you shouldn't.
But you should be open-minded about all the points of view.
I'd hate to see...
Someone get in trouble for something they didn't do because they dated a gal and she hated them and so she made up some stuff and this has happened before.
doug stanhope
Oh, absolutely.
Let me give you an example.
We should clarify because this is a touchy subject.
joe rogan
I know you're not a sexist by any stretch of the imagination.
In support of the Alleged witch hunt because it is making people who are serious abusers and there's one I fucking want to out but I I don't know you don't have to but no I'm not going to but you know that it's real and then you know that people in positions of power like that who have people working under them or dependent upon them in that way they will prey on them and do weird shit to them and they've been doing it forever because they can get away with it and that seems to be like That seems to be how this town, in a lot of ways, was designed.
doug stanhope
It's how the whole porn industry was set up.
But you have to...
There's a willingness on both sides, hopefully.
Well, I think that there's a lot of girls that will fuck you for a part.
joe rogan
I don't think it's that.
See, that's not the thing.
It's not like...
doug stanhope
Again, there's a million...
The Me Too encapsulates a lot of different...
Stages of sexual abuse, variances.
joe rogan
I always like to think of it, I have a sister-mother rule.
Especially as I've gotten older.
I've thought about this for so long.
And I feel like you have to treat every...
You have to look at every situation like, what would that be like if I found out that happened to my mother?
What would that be like if I found out that happened to my sister?
If you go to children, then it gets really crazy and you get super psychotic because you're protective as well.
Although I'm very protective of my sister.
You gotta almost look at it like that, and I don't think we get taught that enough.
You know, I think it takes us a long time of living as an adult to sort of figure out, like, who's the dick here?
Is it me or is it them?
Am I making bad choices?
Am I arguing with people and getting these weird relationships with people that I really don't belong with in the first place?
Maybe I need to figure out who the fuck I am before I do this?
Like, there's all these different things that happen.
In a relationship.
And a lot of times, along the way, people get into some, you know, some weird spaces in their life, you know?
doug stanhope
Man Show, the secretary that we had, you weren't around for a lot of it, because you were doing Fear Factor 14 hours a day, then Man Show for four hours, then you'd do an hour at the comedy store, and you'd sleep for 30 minutes.
joe rogan
About her.
doug stanhope
But no, we...
joe rogan
But I know what you're going to say.
doug stanhope
I'm just...
Like, the amount that we abused her on what we would think is a comedy level.
Me and Andy, not you.
You weren't there.
But we would fuck with her.
joe rogan
But she would do it back to you guys, too.
doug stanhope
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But if it was on paper...
doug stanhope
But if she had a change of heart right now and said, oh...
I want to be part of the Me Too thing and here's my story because I want to be noticed.
You can't do it to me because I'm not famous, fortunately.
joe rogan
Do you think this is one of those, like, swing one way and then swing back and normalize things?
Or do you think that this...
But I think it might be.
But as time goes on, I wonder...
And this is not saying anything in any way.
I don't want to be judgmental.
But I have a weird idea that men and women, when they're working together in small boxes for long periods of time, year on year, that becomes their environment.
And that becomes the way they think about the outside world.
doug stanhope
As it does with us.
This is really important because in comedy, the man show, remember we had to do sexual harassment training?
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
For a show that's basically about sexual harassment?
unidentified
Yeah.
doug stanhope
Yeah, we think that we can get away with all this shit.
So I find myself extrapolating that on people that are in a workplace.
I don't know what it's like to work in an office where the boss says, hey, you can move up to assistant regional director if you watch me jerk off.
unidentified
I know.
doug stanhope
That's a different kind of...
joe rogan
It's a different thing, and that's a real problem.
doug stanhope
It's a real fucking problem.
And the Man Show is the only time I've kind of hit, like, the...
The corporate world.
Cross corners of comedy meets corporate, where, yeah, someone might be.
The story I have in here that...
I couldn't have known when we turned this book in, final draft, that this current climate would exist.
So there's a bunch of stories where...
Do you remember Man Dick?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was that?
doug stanhope
Mandic, he was like an assistant producer-director guy.
He was one that we all fucking hated.
He was just a ruthless douche.
And then when we went up to, this is the story that's in the book, at the Bunny Ranch.
And Dennis Hoff tells us both, hey, you can have one of my girls on the house.
Carrot Top has fucked my girls, so-and-so has fucked my girls, and Rogan's like, uh, first of all, not only am I married, but I wouldn't want to be in that litany of names that you dropped that have other celebrities that have fucked your hookers.
He's like, no, no, I wouldn't drop your name.
joe rogan
We played Pretty Women.
Remember that?
Pretty Woman?
For those, the ladies that worked there, remember that?
doug stanhope
Oh, that was the gag we did for you.
No, I don't remember anything we did on the man show.
joe rogan
It was weird.
It bummed me out because they were crying and some of them were saying that they wished that that had been the case and that someone would come and rescue them.
I was like, God damn it.
This isn't funny.
doug stanhope
Yeah, it took a turn.
I remember it now that you say it.
joe rogan
Dude, for me, man, I was like, oh, God.
I've adopted a lot of dogs in my life.
And I've taken on a lot of friend projects, especially when I was young, that enough things have happened that lead me to believe that I have a lot of rescue and parenting type feelings about nurturing people that feel like they're in danger by themselves.
I'm very vulnerable.
So when I see something like that, I'm like, oh, Christ.
You don't really realize, because you don't see their lives on a daily basis, but you realize in that moment, you're like, oh, this isn't funny at all.
You think things are funny on paper.
You think, oh, this is going to be funny.
We'll show a bunch of prostitutes a video about A lady who was a prostitute met the perfect guy and they fell in love.
And it worked out.
He rescued her.
doug stanhope
Man dick!
joe rogan
I don't remember that.
doug stanhope
He was a...
An assistant.
He was in charge enough that he...
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Well, he wasn't absolutely powerful, but he was absolutely fucking annoying.
And we didn't like him, but I still have this offer on the table.
They're wrapping up the shoot the last night.
They're picking up all the equipment.
I'm talking to Air Force Amy, who's this veteran, hilarious hooker that's been up there.
Yeah, she fucking carried me through that whole thing.
We'd just sit and drink at the bar and laugh at everything inappropriate and talk shit.
And I go, hey, we get this freebie from Dennis Hoff.
I know he's going to have to pay you, so how about I just jerk off in front of you while you dildo yourself.
You get paid.
We come back to the bar.
Yeah, great!
She's dildoing herself.
I jerk off.
I come out of the room, which is right around the corner from the bar.
I'm covered in a t-shirt with my own jizz.
All I need to do is wait to find wardrobe.
I get a new t-shirt.
I walk out.
This guy that we hate is wrapping up.
He's walking up the stairs as I'm walking down the few stairs to the bar.
And I go, man, Dick, great shoot.
Good hair.
Fucking hug it in.
And I hug him in front of all these people at the bar who know I just jerked off all over myself.
And I'm smearing it into a...
This is probably illegal.
Yeah.
That's a me too.
That's a me too.
That guy's from the corporate world.
I smeared him with jizz to humiliate him.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
doug stanhope
How fucking wrong could I... It's terrible.
I should be completely outed for that.
joe rogan
I hope you made this up.
doug stanhope
It's in the book.
joe rogan
But I hope it's fiction.
doug stanhope
I'm selling a whole book of hashtag me first, not me too.
joe rogan
Ah, interesting.
I want to say that this last piece by Mr. Douglas Danhoff was fiction.
doug stanhope
Well, I had to change his name, but it was a nickname.
Man Dick.
joe rogan
Jamie was telling me that Trump's lawyer said that he tweeted for Trump.
Trump said something that was fucked up.
Trump's lawyer was like, no, no, no.
I tweeted that one for him.
unidentified
Oh!
doug stanhope
Alright, I've been getting a lot of tweets that say, hey, my lawyer wrote that.
And I'm like, I didn't know what it meant.
joe rogan
That's what that is.
Come on.
How fucking funny is that?
doug stanhope
I have a whole chapter about pulling my dick out.
I used to do that all the time.
I'd go on stage naked or pull my dick out all the time.
I remember those days.
joe rogan
The dark days in lore.
doug stanhope
I was thinner then.
joe rogan
You can pull your dick out today.
I just have a different meaning.
doug stanhope
I gave him a bunch of pictures.
Hennigan here, the Scotsman, I pulled my dick out in front of Bert Kreischer on a podcast two nights ago.
He's used to it.
I can't remember why.
We were so fucked.
I've been begging him not to air it because I don't know what I said.
joe rogan
Bert's seen Ari's dick about a hundred times.
doug stanhope
Well, so for the book, I sent a bunch of pictures with Hennigan to pick and choose, and then they took all these dick pics of me in public.
I'm like, you can't have all the picture sections, just my dick.
So I had to decide.
So this one, I decided on this not having any idea.
It could be so perfectly timed.
The top one is me with my dick out in a kilt in front of a blind guy at karaoke while he's singing, having no idea.
But the one below it is me starting to pull my dick out in front of Louis C.K. I jerk off in front of the abusers.
joe rogan
Wow.
Dude, you're fighting crime.
doug stanhope
I didn't have to block the door.
joe rogan
He didn't block the door, folks, by the way.
That's not real, apparently.
That's like something that gets passed on, like an urban myth that juices up the story.
doug stanhope
I'm saving this for tomorrow.
I'm doing Dork Forest with Jackie Cation and Laurie Kilmartin.
So I'm saving the bulk of my Louis C.K. for that, just because they're ladies.
I want their fucking solid opinion.
But I... I have to make this so spacious time-wise because I don't want to out the person, but I was doing comedy and I was a comedian I knew back in the day when we were young in another millennium.
joe rogan
Just blame it on Ralphie.
doug stanhope
She said, you're never going to guess what I just did.
I just watched Louis C.K. jerk off in the ladies room.
And I went, what?
She goes, yeah.
I said, hey, would you?
And she's like, I don't care.
And as we've caught up Many, many years later, she goes, yeah, I just did it because it was funny.
I really, I did it because it was a story to tell.
joe rogan
Right.
doug stanhope
And I said, are you coming forward?
Because afterwards, when she said, when she told me that, I go, you never watched me jerk off.
You don't watch me jerk off.
I pulled my dick out and put on porn.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Did she watch you?
doug stanhope
No, she just said, yeah, I don't care, whatever.
It's no fun if you don't watch.
The way I remember it is that she remembers me saying, if you don't like it, don't look.
Either way, it was just a goof.
joe rogan
I think you have to stand up, too.
I think what we should do to normalize this whole Louis C.K. thing...
doug stanhope
Hang on, the important part of this is when I said, are you going to come out?
She can't, because she just did it because it was funny.
joe rogan
Right, of course.
doug stanhope
And...
She would almost be put in a place where she would be as...
It's people like you that made him into a monster.
We're just kind of a goof back then.
No one cared.
joe rogan
It's only weird.
doug stanhope
And it was very polite.
So when I heard the Louis C.K. stories later on, I just assumed it was like that.
He was very polite.
Hey, would you watch me jerk off?
joe rogan
Well, I had heard from someone else that had talked to someone and gotten like the story from Louie and their version of it through the grapevine.
So don't take this as like verbatim was something along the lines of no, it was just he thought it was silly to like pull his dick out and take pictures with them and then I had heard that he was saying that it wasn't he didn't actually Masturbate in front of them.
That was like one version of it.
So I was like, okay, well, maybe that was what...
And then the full story came out, and I was like, oh, okay.
And then someone had said, yeah, but he asked them first.
I was like, oh, boy.
Okay, what are we doing with this?
doug stanhope
Another important beat is my story happened before he was in any position of power other than comics looked up to him.
He was still writing for comics that might have had some power at best.
joe rogan
I don't think it was a power thing necessarily.
unidentified
I don't think so at all.
joe rogan
But if you're a man and you're alone in a room with a woman, and this is my perception of it, it's always a power thing because it's fucking weird because you can kill them.
It's different.
Like, have you ever been around like a UFC athlete, some big giant, like Francis Ngannou?
doug stanhope
This was in a public place where you go, if this was a Tinder date, this happened in a place where you'd go, I want to meet you in public because I don't want to be...
So yeah, it was completely safe.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you're alone in a room with a man It's like being and you know that a man has like some sexual urges directed towards you and you're a woman it becomes a vulnerable situation and if There's some weird shit where someone if let's just say someone was blocking the door because I had heard that Louie didn't block any doors Then it becomes really crazy.
Like what do you do?
doug stanhope
Well, first of all, you're hearing.
joe rogan
Yes Yeah, well, it's also like I think The thing that people have the hardest time with all of this is you never want to think that it's possible that someone would do something horrible to somebody if you liked them.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
Right?
joe rogan
Like, with all of this, whether it's Kevin Spacey or any of these people, like, maybe you like him as an actor.
I like that guy.
He's great on House of Cards.
Wait a minute, is he really just terrorizing people and grabbing dicks everywhere?
unidentified
Shit.
doug stanhope
Yeah, I do that all the time.
He makes the people around him?
joe rogan
I do, too.
I do, too.
doug stanhope
Fucking grab asses and dicks.
joe rogan
Oh, that's not what I do.
doug stanhope
Oh, no.
joe rogan
I think about it that way.
doug stanhope
At my house.
joe rogan
Oh, when you guys were joking around?
doug stanhope
Yeah, we had a party the other night.
I go, who have I not groped inappropriately?
Okay, wait.
Gil, I haven't done it to you.
And I grabbed his dick just to make sure we're all fucking good.
joe rogan
You never groped me.
I'm starting to feel a little left out.
I don't think nothing.
I don't even think you've ever gone for my butt.
doug stanhope
I'm...
I might have ogled it from afar.
joe rogan
I think you might have spanked me once.
But the point being, it's like, come on.
People have to figure out some way to interface with each other 100% of the time as equal.
And just work on your own bullshit.
But the way you talk to people.
Somebody brought this up once that they had an issue with a lot of this stuff.
Is that it's someone in the same business that's in this position of being a great artist, like a Kevin Spacey type character or whatever.
And then the other person is like a PA or something like that.
And he preys on them.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's his show and they can't get away and he's like attacking them and they're straight and he's gay.
doug stanhope
Absolutely understood.
I know that.
joe rogan
100%.
I think that's some weird almost like reptilian instinct that humans have.
doug stanhope
I can't tell you how many times we've had to because you know my audience.
mm-hmm over served quite a bit of the time and when it's a girl that's alone and you can see the packs of guys oh i'll get you i'll give you a ride where do you live exactly you go all right let's get her an uber because i know that's gonna go poorly you know what's fucked up about that here's what's really fucked up not only is the woman the like the vulnerable one when it comes to like the possibility of violence right
joe rogan
she's also the vulnerable one when it comes to her reputation because like if you and like yeah right if you and and burt kreischer and five dudes and a girl hops in a car with you and she decides to suck everybody off and then you tell the world and someone leaks her name and they're like it hurts her
But if you get picked up, if you're hitchhiking, and you get picked up by six chicks who decide to blow you and film it and put it on the internet, and you're cracking jokes and pitching your book, you're holding your book while some chick is sucking your dick, you're a king.
You're a goddamn king.
People will worship you.
They'll throw a red carpet down in front of your van as you get out and bow to you as you climb out.
doug stanhope
That's another huge issue is how we treat women being able to guide their own...
joe rogan
Sexuality.
Yeah.
That's a big part of what's going on here.
doug stanhope
You raise your daughters in a different way than you raise your sons.
And that's why it's okay for a teacher to fuck a boy kid.
joe rogan
Right.
Exactly.
And it is, by the way.
I won't even say a word.
doug stanhope
They should be treated the same.
You should raise your kids to know about sex.
You know what?
If you raised your daughter right...
joe rogan
It's a woman.
I should say this.
As long as it's a woman.
doug stanhope
If you raised your daughter with the same openness that you raised your son, she'd know not to fuck a 35-year-old soccer coach when she's 15. Because you were open, you told her, here's the pitfalls of life, this is what it's about.
Guys are gonna try to fuck you.
You don't.
You coddle women, and I believe it's as much a parenting problem as anything else.
joe rogan
It really is fucking fascinating that you would have no problem if a really hot teacher fucked your 16-year-old son.
If a really hot woman teacher, built like Pamela Anderson back in the Baywatch days, if somehow...
doug stanhope
Ugly teacher!
Ugly teacher fucks your son.
You're like, yeah, you should be a little more discriminating.
joe rogan
But if it was a hot one.
You have no problem with it.
Some Pamela Anderson-like gal is having sex with your 17-year-old boy, and he's got a six-pack.
Yeah!
Fuck yeah, Tommy!
You're a winner!
Yeah!
But if you reverse the genders, it's a horrific offense.
Like some handsome man has seduced your beautiful little daughter who's only 17. Fuck that.
That guy needs to be in a cage.
Weird.
That alone is like...
doug stanhope
This is where I can't...
Extend the argument because I've never been a woman.
joe rogan
That's true.
doug stanhope
And that's why I didn't mean to talk to you about that.
Saving a lot of this for when I have hosts that can come back.
joe rogan
Do you remember when we were going to get married?
doug stanhope
Yeah, that was the last call I made.
I don't know if that's in the book or not.
The last call I made when we knew the man show was going to get cancelled.
I think it is in the book.
That might be in the book.
unidentified
I think it is.
doug stanhope
The last call I made, they wouldn't tell us it's canceled.
They leave you hanging on the vine.
But I was at the Atlanta Punchline and I remember being in the parking lot and Massachusetts had just passed gay marriage or civil unions.
joe rogan
I remember you called me up.
doug stanhope
I called Zoe Friedman first.
Zoe Friedman was...
unidentified
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
You called Zoe before you checked on me.
doug stanhope
Maybe I called you first, but she's the one that counted because she was our go-to person at Comedy Central.
And I said, listen, before you cancel us, give us one last episode where Joe and I get gay married and it just goes into this montage, but it's the opposite of every marriage cliche where we're fishing together and no one's arguing.
unidentified
Yeah.
doug stanhope
No one's fighting over the remote.
We're both happy to be watching the same thing, and it's just a perfect life together.
joe rogan
Dude, imagine if people decide to do that.
Imagine if they had best friends get married as best friends.
It's nothing sexual.
In the contract, zero sexual obligation.
It's not sex.
It's like, we're getting married as best friends.
Like, for real?
doug stanhope
The bros before hoes marriages.
joe rogan
Just stop and think about how many, not, you know, obviously not the current relationships we're involved in.
We would never go so far.
But if you go back to, like, your 20s, just imagine being stuck with some gal when you're both a goddamn wreck, right?
You're both crazy.
You're both 21 or whatever the fuck you are.
You're both completely out of your mind.
You're basically babies alone in the world.
You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Imagine living with that gal for the rest of your life versus your friend from back then.
I'm still friends with my buddies from when I was 21. Jimmy Lawless, I talk to that dude all the time.
We text each other back and forth all the time.
I've been friends with him since I was 15 or 14. I might have been 14 when I met him.
doug stanhope
Hey, Doug, I hate your cigarette smoke during the podcast.
I like it.
Okay, I'll put in an air purifier.
And that's the beef.
That's our marriage beef.
joe rogan
This is our meat.
This is something I really did.
I call it the Dice Clay option.
Because every time Dice is here, he chain smokes more than you.
And Dice just hammers.
We got an air cleaner that we would sit right behind him and turn that thing on just to suck out the cigarette smoke.
doug stanhope
The air purifier is belching sewage by the second hour.
It's just brown tar.
joe rogan
He's a guy that to this day I still fanboy in front of.
I can't believe I'm friends with Dice Clay.
Like, I really can't.
Every time I see him, I'm like, what's up, Andrew?
doug stanhope
But do you feel like you're friends with him?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm friends with him.
doug stanhope
I've only met him a few times, but I never saw, like, a human side to him.
He's always...
You can get there.
He's in character.
joe rogan
You can get there with him.
doug stanhope
I don't want to.
I don't want to see him like that.
joe rogan
He's a good guy, man.
doug stanhope
I don't want to see the emperor with no clothes.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
His clothes are still on.
I'm telling you.
It's all right.
He's just a guy that's like, you know, Dice Clay was gigantic and he got hit with the first wave of comedy haters.
Like, people don't remember, when I was 19, it was me and my girlfriend Marta, and we were parked out in front of my house, and we were listening to a Dice Clay cassette in my car, and we were fucking crying.
I mean, tears were coming down my face.
I was 19, I think she was 19 too.
We were both like, ah, ah, ah!
I had never even considered doing stand-up at this point.
Just I was dying laughing.
doug stanhope
He's the reason I got into stand-up.
joe rogan
He was a monster.
He was a monster.
doug stanhope
And he was coming off the whole wave of Paul Reiser.
joe rogan
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
doug stanhope
There's no backlash.
Yes, we already noticed!
unidentified
Thanks!
doug stanhope
Did you ever notice my book?
unidentified
Fuck you!
joe rogan
Paul Reiser is amazing on Stranger Things.
He's amazing.
doug stanhope
I don't watch it.
joe rogan
You should.
doug stanhope
Fucking kids.
joe rogan
I hate kids.
Demogorgons.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Exactly.
You have no Demogorgon knowledge, motherfucker.
You're talking at your ass.
doug stanhope
I tried.
joe rogan
Jamie, tell me about Stranger Things!
doug stanhope
I watched five minutes of the first one and I'm like, I can't watch kids and fuck it.
It looked like E.T. and fuck that.
joe rogan
It gets better.
It gets so good.
It's such a good show.
How dare you?
doug stanhope
Sorry, I tried.
joe rogan
You and I don't agree.
doug stanhope
I tried, I failed.
No, I'm gonna...
Hey, can you see...
I hate to use my Scotsman as an errand boy.
Is there a Coke in there?
unidentified
I tried to find one, but I don't think so.
joe rogan
There might be some Zevias.
There might be a couple cans of Zevia.
Go in there, motherfucker.
doug stanhope
Zevia?
That sounds like it's got fucking something in it.
joe rogan
No, it's okay, Brian!
He left.
I think there's like one can of Zevia.
doug stanhope
What is Zevia?
It sounds like it has Stevia in it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does.
doug stanhope
Fuck it, no way!
joe rogan
Can we get some cans of Coca-Cola in the future for Mr. Stanhope?
doug stanhope
No, I brought whiskey because I assumed you wouldn't have club soda.
So I thought if I'm going to have a vodka drink, I'll just drink mimosas.
I'm fine.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
unidentified
We can have some God for him.
doug stanhope
No, no, I don't need it.
I just assumed everyone has...
joe rogan
We're trying to work our way through this whole experience here.
At this new spot.
We're not totally locked in place.
doug stanhope
Stevia is the worst.
joe rogan
If you want some unhealthy options, I'll have some gluten-heavy pasta here for you as well.
doug stanhope
I have plenty of mimosa.
I was going to change up.
I'm not going to.
joe rogan
Here's what we'll do.
Next time you come here, I will have my non-existent assistant send you an email with like a...
unidentified
A writer?
joe rogan
No, you don't want to write.
Yeah, like a rider.
Like white M&M's.
doug stanhope
No, no, no.
Let's get stevia in it.
joe rogan
Those stevias are good, dude.
They're good.
I'm telling you.
Just give it a chance.
doug stanhope
No, it's awful.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
doug stanhope
Fake sugar is fake sugar.
joe rogan
Dude, it's not.
It's a plant-based sweet.
doug stanhope
I already poured a mimosa.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
doug stanhope
I know.
Bingo takes the stevia all the fucking time.
joe rogan
Yeah, but these sodas are good, man.
I'm telling you.
They're really good.
They're not going to kill you.
doug stanhope
Every fake sugar leaves such a bad taste in your mouth.
And I can't taste anything after 35 years of smoking.
joe rogan
It's plant.
Extracts.
It's a sweet thing that doesn't jack up your glycemic index.
doug stanhope
It's good for you, bro.
joe rogan
I want you to stay alive.
Hennigan!
unidentified
Did you send me just so you could talk about me?
doug stanhope
No, no, no.
Hennigan!
joe rogan
He's a crafty one!
Hennigan's been dealing with subterfuge.
doug stanhope
It's no fun talking behind your back when we can do it to your face.
joe rogan
One of the things I enjoy about you is you're a very self-deprecating fellow.
unidentified
Who is?
joe rogan
You are.
You could take a good joke and you give one back.
doug stanhope
Yes.
joe rogan
Cheers to that.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Is that a Scottish thing?
It seems a little bit more fun over there.
unidentified
I would say the Scots are good at being self-deprecating and calling a cunt a cunt.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're Billy Connolly.
He was like the main guy over there as far as stand-up.
And that was his whole thing.
He embodied that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just happy dude.
unidentified
I think there's a big thing in Scottish society, which one of the few good things I'll say about Scottish society is it's kind of egalitarian.
And we enjoy knocking people down who think they're better than other people, including yourself.
joe rogan
Australians do that shit too.
They call it the tall poppy syndrome.
unidentified
And Japan.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think it's good, man.
Good.
You know, I mean, I think that's one of the things we're also dealing with.
doug stanhope
Ball-busting should always be.
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
unidentified
And it goes back to your thing about punching up, not down.
joe rogan
Yeah, occasionally, but here's the thing about this whole punching up, punching down thing.
I always bring up Sam Kinison's bit about the Ethiopian kids that were starving to death.
It's one of the fucking greatest all-time bits, and it's 100% punching down.
He's got two, in my opinion, I mean, if you have a list of the greatest of all-time bits, two of them in my mind are Sam Kinison, and one of them is the Ethiopian kids.
He's like, you know, you're sitting at home, you got a dinner, you made it all yourself.
You know, you're sitting in front of the TV, feeling good about life, and all of a sudden this fucking kid, this starving kid, and there's a guy right next to him.
Like, could you please just give a couple dollars a month so this guy can say, hey, and you're like, hey, why don't you feed him?
You're right next to him.
doug stanhope
All I remember from that bit is, send them moving trucks, you all, move to where the food is.
joe rogan
We got deserts in America too!
doug stanhope
We just don't live in them, asshole!
joe rogan
It was chaos, because it was the most punching down bit of all time.
Starving children in Ethiopia.
doug stanhope
I don't think that's punching down.
You're punching at the people that are selling you this.
Sort of.
joe rogan
But you're grabbing the little Ethiopian by the head.
unidentified
Come here!
joe rogan
Come here, motherfucker!
doug stanhope
You see what that is?
Collateral damage.
joe rogan
That's sand!
doug stanhope
You know what's gonna be 100 years from now?
Fucking sand!
We got deserts in America, too!
When I say punching down, I was talking about specifically Twitter fights where, like, Christine Levine.
Who's that?
Mamou.
She's a friend of mine.
She opens for me quite often.
joe rogan
Is her name Mamou?
Is that her nickname?
doug stanhope
That was her nickname when I met her online.
I know so many people based on their screen name back in the day.
Yeah, well before that.
unidentified
Where uh...
joe rogan
ICQ? What is it?
doug stanhope
IQ? She's a...
What is that?
joe rogan
What is that fucking text?
What is it?
ICQ? I remember that shit.
doug stanhope
I was doing the alt.comedy.standup.
Didn't find the ICQ, but uh...
joe rogan
There's something freeing about being able to talk to someone.
You don't know what the fuck they look like.
They don't know what the fuck you look like.
You can just chat with each other online.
Something freeing about that.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you get to know people just for the information they're able to convey.
doug stanhope
I just know that you're annoying.
It has nothing to do with your sexuality, your race, your religion.
I just know you're annoying as a human being.
You really can.
And I'm glad that I judged you for no other reason than you.
joe rogan
And some people will trick you, but some people, you meet them online, and they turn out to be the exact same thing when you meet them in person, and they're really cool.
doug stanhope
I've met...
Some of the funniest people, funny online funny, that when you meet them, biggest social retards, they can't have, can't make eye contact, can't deliver the line.
If they're on the keyboard, they're the funniest person.
They just have no social skills.
They can't present themselves.
This guy's funnier than me.
Oh wait, in real life, no he's not.
He could never do what we do.
But he could write from a keyboard in a dark room.
joe rogan
This is chick that is unbelievably hilarious on Twitter.
And I found her recently.
What is it?
Nacho Sarah?
What is her?
unidentified
Sarah Beatty.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
It's Nacho Sarah.
Her name is Sarah Beatty.
joe rogan
I think that's her Twitter handle.
Dude, she's fucking hilarious.
I'll go to her every two, three days.
I'll just go and check her Twitter page just to see what ridiculous shit she posts.
She's really fucking funny.
And I'm like, are you a stand-up?
And she's like, well, I tried it once, but you know.
doug stanhope
You know who I've become?
joe rogan
That's her right there.
Nacho Sarah.
doug stanhope
Oh, see, this is the same problem I have with my Twitter crush.
Is Laura Duck, the one-armed girl?
joe rogan
Okay, yeah.
doug stanhope
She made kind of national news, Twitter national news, because she put on her Tinder, she's an arms dealer, she had just lost her arm.
Laura or Lauren Duck?
It's Duckfan is the Twitter account, Duckfan something.
And she, yeah, she gets her arm lopped off by a train, and she posts all sorts of smutty shit, but she also posts really funny shit.
And I said, I wish when I come to San Diego that you had a set, because you're hot, you have one arm, everything's already in your favor, you're already naturally funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some fucking funny people on Twitter.
There's some funny people that work at the post office.
They just don't get a chance to...
The idea that we have figured out a way to monetize the way we look at things is so offensive.
It's so offensive.
There's so many people in so many jobs that are just as funny as us, or maybe way more.
My friend Dave Dolan, rest in peace, who was one of my bosses back when I was first starting doing stand-up, he was a private investigator.
Funniest person I've ever met in my life.
Right next to Joey Diaz.
He's like right up there.
He was hilarious.
He was a private investigator.
And I worked for him because he got caught in a DUI and needed a driver.
So he put in an ad in for an assistant, for a private investigator.
And I was looking for a day job while I was doing stand-up at night.
I was like, perfect!
Assistant for a private investigator?
This is like a goddamn comic book!
And so I start working for this guy, and he's this crazy Irish private investigator wild man.
I mean, he's a fucking wild man.
He was so funny.
And he would just tell me stories about nutty shit he did and crazy fucking girls he knew.
I would be in my car crying laughing.
Waiting for this person to like come up would be like five o'clock in the morning parked like doing like surveillance on someone's house Like waiting for them to leave their house five o'clock in the morning because someone's like doing like some sort of an insurance scam Most of it was insurance and he would just I would be crying and I was thinking I'm trying to be a comic This guy's five, six years older than me at least, like maybe nine years older than me.
doug stanhope
I think I was 21. He was like 30. An eternity.
joe rogan
An eternity.
He was an animal.
I mean, he was so fucking funny.
And I was like, I'll never be as funny as him.
I just won't never be as funny as him.
Like, this is depressing.
I loved working for the guy, and I worked for him for the entire six months, and he needed to have no license after he got arrested for a DUI. Stayed friends with him until he died.
I love that guy.
doug stanhope
In the book, I talk about Becker and Andy, two guys that are way funnier than me, and fuck them, they never could put it together on stage.
As much as they say they're trying to be like you, I'm trying to be like them.
You know, those funny people you know.
Yeah, I want to steal that essence, because I know how to put it on stage.
I'll never be naturally off the cuff as funny as the funniest people I've met, but I can do it on stage, and you can't, so fuck you.
joe rogan
That's ruthless.
doug stanhope
I can boil it down.
joe rogan
The organization has some sort of writer-correspondent.
You know, you should have a policy that sexual harassment is mandatory and everybody works inside the Doug Stanhope information collection organization.
Like anybody who's trying to help you with creation of your act, idea gathering, what have you.
doug stanhope
They're all men.
It was an unspoken rule up until now.
That was kind of the thing, and that's why we were talking about no one's me-tooing rock and roll bands.
Like, they're not pulling Led Zeppelin's library off of iTunes because they fucked a girl with a fish.
joe rogan
Right, but here's my point.
doug stanhope
When you walk into the backstage area at a rock and roll concert, there's an unwritten rule.
Yeah, the roadie tapped you on the shoulder for a reason, and you know what the reason is.
I was made to feel uncomfortable.
He pulled out his dick out of sweaty leather pants after the show.
joe rogan
Underwear or no underwear?
doug stanhope
And then girls were doing bumps off of it.
joe rogan
No.
doug stanhope
They were gummers mostly because of the ball sweat.
I understand.
There's a difference between that and what happens with fucking Harvey Weinstein.
That's a fucking rapist.
joe rogan
Yes, 100%.
And here's the part of the problem, is what we were talking about earlier, that if you got in a car with seven women and they all fucked you, you're a hero.
But if a gal gets in the car with seven Jason Momoa's, that guy from the Game of Thrones, that fucking beautiful handsome man, that gigantic handsome man...
He's so huge and so beautiful.
Like if seven of those were in a car and it was a gal and she was just like, Ravage me!
Ravage!
And she's some sort of a damaged thing.
doug stanhope
We know those girls that celebrate that.
No, no, we know the ones that...
And they're like, yeah, I fucked that guy.
joe rogan
I... We know a few.
doug stanhope
Yeah, for sure.
That are just like dudes.
joe rogan
It should be like that for everybody.
It's a suppression issue.
It's the same reason why Catholics feel guilty.
It's not a matter of what's wrong or what's right.
It's a matter of what you enjoy and what you don't enjoy because other people are going to judge you for it.
And then you've got to get to the root of why are these people judging you.
For a giant percentage of the men that judge women for their sexual activity, it's 100% out of jealousy.
It's 100% out of the idea that this woman would not want to do that with them, and they cast a judgment on her, and they decide that her needs are different than a man's needs.
But the bottom line is all these things were established back when it was really difficult to have children.
And you had to protect your children, and most of them were going to die, and you were literally concerned about the population of your village.
Well, those instincts, they still exist.
The problem is that's not a concern anymore, and then there's fucking birth control and whatever, 1960 or whatever that chick came out.
When did that come out?
When did chicks start being super hoes?
doug stanhope
Early 70s when Roe vs.
Wade and birth control and all that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It should be even, you know, there's got to be some sort of a way to make it even easier than all this.
There's got to be a way where you let the natural hormone cycles roll.
doug stanhope
Well, I think what has happened is porn.
joe rogan
I nailed it.
Did I nail it?
I think it did.
1960. Hmm.
unidentified
I thought we were going to be in an argument for bringing back villages.
joe rogan
Well, it's not a bad idea, man.
Here's the thing.
I think cities are amazing, but I don't think we're designed for it, and I think we will be ready for it in a couple hundred years.
It's going to take some sort of an adaptation to the human psyche and the way we interact with each other.
But I think it's totally doable.
If people like us can do it, this is how I've always felt.
If the entire world was the four of us in this room, we would be fine.
Like, what if we were the only people?
What if we were immortal, we didn't have to worry about dying, and it was just the four of us, and just a bunch of food and shit to do?
Do you think we would have any problem at all?
Yeah, we would miss the fact there weren't any chicks.
That would be kind of a bummer.
But we would probably have a good time.
If we just had unlimited resources roaming around...
doug stanhope
Which we do.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, essentially, the world is kind of like that.
doug stanhope
Like, if this wildfire in Ventura spreads across the world while this podcast goes on and on, and then we walk out, and you're like, oh, fucking zombie apocalypse without the zombies.
joe rogan
What if the zombies kick in, too?
doug stanhope
A lot of ashes.
joe rogan
GMO, Monsanto zombies.
doug stanhope
You have the grill.
You showed us how to use it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Press buttons.
doug stanhope
I'm gonna have to drink stevia.
I'll get irritated by that.
joe rogan
Just do me a favor.
Get a little sip.
Give him a little sip.
doug stanhope
No, no, no.
I've done every stevia thing.
joe rogan
You're prejudiced.
You're racist.
unidentified
Just try it.
doug stanhope
By the way, I don't know if it's hot in here, but I'm actually sweating from the ears, and I thought it's because Joe Rogan's bellowing so much, I'm bleeding out of my earphones, but it's actually sweat.
I'm sweating on your earphones, and whoever sits here next, I hope he's OCD, because...
joe rogan
Are you, uh...
Just a little swept up?
Are you a little fired up?
doug stanhope
I'm trying to be.
joe rogan
Am I too loud?
doug stanhope
No, no, no.
I'm just giving you shit.
joe rogan
I know.
I just never know when you're being real.
doug stanhope
No, no, I am sweating from my earphones, and I think that's gross that I'm sweating on your earphones, so I had to say it.
joe rogan
I don't give a fuck, dude.
I don't give a fuck about period blood.
I don't give a fuck about sweat.
doug stanhope
And that bothers me.
joe rogan
I've never understood that.
doug stanhope
OCD people do bother me, because I am everything I would assume that...
They find to be a problem.
I'm a filthy...
joe rogan
I think you should eat meat with dirty hands.
That's what I think.
I think you should eat meat with dirty hands.
doug stanhope
If I know someone's OCD, I'm afraid to be around them.
I'm uncomfortable.
joe rogan
I have a friend who went to look at a house, and they were looking at the house, and there's a nice house, like, wow, this house is beautiful.
And they got to this one closet, and the closet was filled with Purell, with hand sanitizer.
And they went, fuck this.
Like this house is haunted My friend said dude the fucking thing was filled It was a closet.
It was filled from the floor all the way to the top with Purell.
They were like, nope.
doug stanhope
Stern and ONA. I don't know if both ONA, but one of them at least, they were all Purell touching everything.
If I get a cold and...
My guttural smoker cough is enough that you're gonna not want me here.
I cough off Mike.
I try to, but I know he's gonna hear it and go...
joe rogan
Think about how many people you interact with and shake hands with.
I think the more people you share your biome with, like Paul Stamets, the mushroom guy, do you know who he is?
doug stanhope
No.
joe rogan
He's a pretty famous mycologist who was on my podcast recently and had some amazing stories.
But one of the things that he said is, like, if you come in contact with someone, their biome interacts with your biome, and there's some sort of a residual amount of their DNA that you're taking into your own biome.
Like, if you meet somebody, you become part of them in some very bizarre way.
I was like, what?!
So he's like, welcome to my biome.
And I was like, this is crazy.
doug stanhope
Welcome to my nightmare.
joe rogan
And he's a scientist, so he's not like just bullshitting.
He's not like some crazy dude who doesn't believe in birds.
doug stanhope
You told me something on a podcast years ago, and it's one of those things that comes up late at night where I go, I want to call Rogan...
But I'm not going to call you at 1130 at night.
What was the thing that you said?
joe rogan
Listen, call me.
Anytime you call me.
You want to call me, call me, please.
doug stanhope
I don't bother you.
joe rogan
I love you.
doug stanhope
Do you see a quote from you on the back of this book?
joe rogan
No.
doug stanhope
No, I called people that if they said no, we're not friends anyway.
joe rogan
I would never say no.
doug stanhope
If Chris Rock said no, well, I don't know him anyway.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
doug stanhope
I know, he is.
He's fucking...
He wrote me a better quote.
joe rogan
But I would love to quote your book, man.
Don't ever ask me.
I mean, don't ever worry about asking me.
doug stanhope
You don't want to put anyone on the spot.
joe rogan
You're not putting me on the spot.
I love you.
doug stanhope
You had some...
joe rogan
You're one of my favorite people.
If I have a top 20 people that survives and everybody dies, you're in.
doug stanhope
All right.
joe rogan
Like, if there was, like, some sort of an apocalypse and I had to get everybody...
doug stanhope
Am I going to like the other 19, though?
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll work on it.
We'll decide.
You get, like, five of your freaks.
I got five of mine.
Family.
Whoever you know that's still alive...
doug stanhope
You told me something about over the course of, I think, 20 years, the amount of cells.
You're not even the same person.
joe rogan
You're not the same person you were seven years ago.
doug stanhope
So tell it with your smart way of saying it.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
By the way, this is like third-hand smart way because I'm clearly a retard.
But if you go back to like seven years ago and then today, you literally don't have the same cells in most of your body.
The only thing that doesn't regenerate is the neurons.
The neurons do not regenerate.
But every cell in your body is different than the cells in your body from seven years ago.
So, your memories remain.
And this is part of the problem.
You become a victim to the momentum of your past behavior.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
So if you're Kevin Spacey and you decide six months ago, I am not grabbing any more dicks.
I'm fucking done with this.
I'm going to be a better person.
Like, you are attached to the momentum of your past behavior.
You know, no matter what.
Even if you're not even that guy anymore.
Like, seven years later, you wake up.
Like, you wake up in the morning.
doug stanhope
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
What did I grab?
Grab some dicks.
doug stanhope
Fuck!
Why did I do that?
unidentified
Why did I grab the dick of the PA? God damn it!
joe rogan
Oh, I was so drunk!
doug stanhope
There's nothing you can do.
joe rogan
You're stuck with that idea.
Like, we have to get past that.
We have to figure out a way.
I think, Pi, they have to take those electric things and fucking change your brain like shock therapy.
When we let you ride.
doug stanhope
When you don't account for growth, and this is my huge thing, if I had a charity that I was behind, if I was on Dancing with the Stars, which I think I might be, how do those negotiations go out?
joe rogan
Are you working that in?
Listen, Dancing with the Stars, don't you kill Doug Stanhope.
I had to fucking do a dance scene before, man.
It ain't easy.
unidentified
He wants to die by the cha-cha.
Oh.
doug stanhope
Innocence Project.
Let me get this point out and then let's go back to Dancing with Joe.
Innocence Project, that's my thing.
I've never been locked up When I was innocent, it's my fear.
It's a terrifying fear.
It's the entire prison system, the justice system.
Prison doesn't work whatsoever.
And when you lock someone up at 18 years old for some shit, you...
You grow out of these things.
Like, you're not accepting that as you age you rethink things and you're...
it's fucked.
joe rogan
Well, it's a totally ineffective way to reform people as well.
Most prisons.
Some prisons are trying to be more progressive with their ideas.
doug stanhope
Scandinavia, Iceland?
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
Mostly outside of America.
America has a real problem.
And one of the real problems is there's not all of it, but a certain amount of the prison...
Profit?
Yes, for profit.
And these private prison systems...
Anytime something's for profit...
The system benefits from these laws being uniform or increasing in their severity.
So if you have a way where people can profit...
This is the issue that I had with marijuana.
Well, you would find out that prison guard unions would be lobbying against marijuana.
doug stanhope
For jobs.
joe rogan
Yes.
I'm like, police union.
doug stanhope
I have done so well, and what are we at, like, hour 45 now, not stepping on my new bits, because that's all I have.
joe rogan
Oh, about that kind of stuff?
doug stanhope
About all of the things we're talking about.
joe rogan
I was talking with Brian Callen the other day, and we were talking about something, and he was like, you know, I've been talking about this in my act.
And I'm like, of course you have, because this is what's really relevant today.
And I think that all of us have this weird thing.
We don't want to step on each other's material.
But of course you're going to see some of the same things that I'm seeing.
And I want to see your take on it as much as I want to see my take on it.
doug stanhope
I'm trying not to do punchlines.
Let's keep to the discourse and not go into bits.
joe rogan
I know what you mean.
Those bits are good, but you don't want to give them up yet.
doug stanhope
No.
Honestly, this one bit that's...
It goes with the entire rape thing.
I have been missing just one sealing chunk of this bit that sometimes goes 25 minutes of too long, and I'm just trying to get the point across, and all this current climate, as I keep calling it, Like, that's what I was missing.
Now I have specific examples of this guy versus this guy.
Now, it made the entire bit come together and now I'm off the road till March.
I'm like, motherfucker!
Now I actually want to go out and do more dates just because there's a year and a half I think I've been working on this fucking one stupid bit.
joe rogan
That happens.
You know, Chris Rock said that he was working on that, I love black people, I hate niggers.
Remember that bit?
doug stanhope
Oh, fuck yeah.
Who doesn't?
What white man doesn't?
joe rogan
It is, in my estimation, one of the all-time greatest, most significant stand-up comedy bits ever.
And when it hit, I remember I was just kind of starting out when that bit was, like, popular.
When that bit was, like, on CDs and people would play it back and you'd see it on television and you'd be like...
I was like, oh my god, this is like a perfect bit.
Like, he had it boiled down.
The punchlines were so succinct.
It was just bam, bam, bam!
And then I read that he had bombed with that bit for months and months before he figured out how to get it to work.
doug stanhope
I got, uh...
Hate mail from fans, not egregious, actually well thought out, hey, I saw you, I agree with most of what you say, but what you were saying, are you saying, and I'm like, no, that's not what I'm saying, that's what I'm trying to not say, but I'm having such a hard time alliterating this, and everything that's happened in the last month or two has, oh, now I can exactly point out what I'm saying, and I actually...
I reverse engineered it where I go oh I should be starting from where I was ending and then go the other way rather than apologizing and Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
But I figured it out right when I get off the road.
You fucking assholes.
unidentified
But you'll...
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
I mean, isn't it always kind of like fucking...
It keeps going?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like you say it's done, then a new branch pops out of the tree, and you're like, oh, this is what's gonna bear fruit.
doug stanhope
It's just that night.
I was doing these shitty gigs for fucking months, and every night I hated going on stage, and now I want to go on stage, but I don't have a gig.
It's not like a...
joe rogan
What I found pretty recently, like within the last year, I mean, is that that is all like some shit that I internalize.
And then if I can just like express or respond to that the least amount, like all the weird shit, I know it exists, I have a weird set, it's too long, it's too this, too that, I don't like it, I know it exists, don't freak out, but understand what that is, and then You know what that is.
It didn't work.
Now let's figure out how to fucking never let that happen again.
Because there's a big difference in the swing between the audience having a fucking amazing time, or it was really good for 45 minutes, then it sucked for 10. Shit.
doug stanhope
No better learning experience that happens for decades than eating shit.
Nothing will ever make you come back stronger than actually dying on your ass.
But I'd rather be mediocre at this point.
joe rogan
But even mediocre requires like eating shit.
Dude, I ate shit.
After Jim Brewer in some weird suburb outside of the city in New York.
I ate shit so hard it changed my life.
doug stanhope
Probably not recently.
joe rogan
No, it was like 90...
Three?
Maybe 93?
And Brewer and I were just starting out.
And I was fine.
Like, I really shouldn't have been headlining.
There's no way I should have been headlining.
I had maybe 45 minutes that was mediocre at best.
And Brewer and I had a great time all weekend.
Friday, two shows.
Everything worked out great.
But although, if I'm being honest, I want to say that he had better sets at least...
Two of the three shows.
At least two of the three shows.
He had better sets, but I had good sets.
It wasn't embarrassing.
And then the second show, Saturday night, he made me eat a busload of shit.
I bombed.
Like, one of the worst bombings ever of my career.
Ever.
Where it was like everything that came out of my mouth was a dry brick, and he destroyed in front of me.
doug stanhope
I mean, destroyed.
joe rogan
Like, fucking crumbs were breaking up off of the fucking low-hanging ceiling.
unidentified
You know those asbestos wall pipes?
doug stanhope
Actually, I think I coined that.
It was like a brick.
The words came out of my mouth like a brick through a funnel.
joe rogan
That's what it feels like.
It feels like you have a mouthful of dirt.
doug stanhope
I hate shit following, and where I can blame the middle act, like sometimes they just don't like you.
The middle act can take credit, but no, they just hated you.
The one I couldn't follow for a week in Miami was Chris Porter.
Chris Porter.
Chris Porter?
You know Chris Porter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
Fucking stoner, fucking thin, curly hair.
He's very funny.
But Miami Improv at the time, this is probably 2000, and it was an urban room, 60% black.
Well, no, no, because there was a lot of Cuban, too.
joe rogan
Oh.
doug stanhope
So, but, yeah, maybe five white people that are scared.
joe rogan
Sammy Sosa, Cuban, 1993, or Sammy Sosa, Cuban, 2017. Miami.
doug stanhope
Miami.
Okay.
Not Fort Lauderdale.
unidentified
Dark.
doug stanhope
Not West Palm.
Curly hair.
It was Miami.
joe rogan
Girls have red toes.
doug stanhope
The first night, I assumed I'm getting fired, so I just...
Go crazy.
I took on...
No, no.
They're throwing fucking empty cigarette packs at me on stage, following Chris Porter, who knew all the fucking recent hip-hoppy things.
He had all the fart...
Current urban trends in his act that he fucking destroyed and I'm up there like kind of new with my anti-authoritarian kind of point of view and fuck vice cops and fuck this and fuck Nash And he closed.
It was right after...
This will probably date it when it...
Because he was...
It was when France wouldn't let us fly over their airspace.
unidentified
Fuck France!
doug stanhope
Yeah, if we had to save...
Point...
That's...
The point being, years later, I got one of my best bits ever about nationalism out of that.
Because he closed on, fuck France, if we hadn't saved their ass in two world wars...
And I turned that eventually into one of my best bits ever because I would go up and follow him going, yes, that's right, Chris Porter.
That was the French calling you.
unidentified
Yes, Chris Porter, the Nazis are at our door.
doug stanhope
Please help us, you.
And it turned into that bit I did about nationalism.
If we hadn't saved the French, was that us?
Was that us garroting Krauts in the trenches in Verdun?
Was that you and me?
I remember last night we were hammered.
I don't remember saving the French.
I remember we went through the drive-through without a car.
We did a lot of things, but we didn't save the French.
You're talking about other people that did shit and you're taking credit for it.
Nationalism does nothing but teach you how to take credit for other people's accomplishments.
joe rogan
The same can be said for rooting for the Raiders, right?
doug stanhope
Yeah, sure.
unidentified
We fucking won, bro!
doug stanhope
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a very bizarre thing that we love to do.
And I think it's all connected to the...
doug stanhope
Why does home field advantage work?
It's my fucking best idea.
unidentified
It's uncomfortable.
joe rogan
It's uncomfortable in that arena for all those other people.
doug stanhope
It's my best idea that no Billy Ball kind of people in the professional sports leagues are picking up on.
Field a team of sociopaths.
Because home field advantage is one of the biggest things in sports.
Home field advantage.
If you field a team of sociopaths that don't care about cheers or boos...
Yeah, there's no home field advantage anymore, because these are psychopaths that don't care about cheers.
They just want to win and kill.
joe rogan
That's not sustainable.
You've got to shoot them after a couple years.
As soon as they start wearing diamonds in their watches, you've got to shoot them in the locker room.
Like, what happened?
What happened?
How did he die?
Aaron Hernandez, that guy?
What is this?
Tinder may be eliminating the home team advantage for NBA players.
Tinder, stop hating on the black man!
Tinder, I want you to consider the fact that a giant percentage of NBA players are people of color!
You racist fucks!
They're swooping into these white towns and banging all these white chicks.
And you got a problem?
Tinder?
Home field advantage?
They just make it easier for them.
They don't have to go do work.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry what I said.
They come to the hotel instead of having to go out to...
Tinder, Tinder, Tinder, Tinder.
I'm sorry.
I was just doing that for comedy.
doug stanhope
My god, if I was still a sexual being...
Man is a sexual being.
That's Bernie Mac and Bad Santa.
Bernie Mac is a sexual being.
unidentified
Man is a sexual being.
doug stanhope
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Stand-up.
You ever see Bernie Mac live?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I saw Bernie Mac live at the Comedy Connection in Boston once.
I was like, holy shit.
He was powerful, man.
I mean, his material was really funny, but shit, his delivery was like electric.
Like, boom!
doug stanhope
Boom!
Name a black comedian where you go, his material is great, but his delivery is undersold.
Don't say Hannibal Buress, because Hannibal Buress has got his thing going on.
joe rogan
He's my buddy.
Franklin Ajay?
doug stanhope
Oh, Franklin Ajay.
joe rogan
Franklin Ajay.
Super low-key with his delivery.
Hilarious ideas.
doug stanhope
I met him at the Green Room.
Paul Provenza.
I wish that show was still on.
joe rogan
Let's do the Green Room with Doug Stanhope.
doug stanhope
Well, podcasting is basically that.
joe rogan
It is that.
But let's get on Showtime for the fuck of it.
Just so we can call our moms.
Showtime!
Mommy, I made it!
doug stanhope
My mom's dead.
joe rogan
Yeah, I forgot.
I said that right.
I was like, man, I feel guilty.
Oh, it's Stanhope.
I don't have to feel bad.
I'm gonna call my grandma.
My grandma's dead.
I forgot, bro.
doug stanhope
Fucking Chad Shank, he just came back from Thanksgiving.
He's like, yeah, I had to go to my grandparents' house.
joe rogan
Does he work for you?
Does he know that it's December 5th?
What kind of fucking bullshit is this?
doug stanhope
What does that mean?
joe rogan
Thanksgiving?
Long time ago, motherfucker.
doug stanhope
There's work to be done.
The point of the story was he was talking about being at Thanksgiving at his grandparents' house, who he revered, and then how he brought his kid and his kids' kids to Globe, Arizona, because he's not a family guy.
joe rogan
Right.
doug stanhope
But then I started doing the math.
Like, you have...
joe rogan
Grandchildren.
doug stanhope
And grandparents.
That means the kids are going to meet their great-great-grandparents.
joe rogan
Did you ever meet your great-great-grandparents?
doug stanhope
No.
My last grandparent died when I was 13. Both of my grandfathers were dead before I was born.
joe rogan
My great-great-grandfather on my mother's side.
doug stanhope
You were alive in the same room?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
doug stanhope
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I barely remember, though.
I was super young.
Really young.
doug stanhope
Your great-great-grandparents are the people that built the stone, that built this town before it was a town, and this was all wastewater.
joe rogan
Well, my great-great-grandfather decided to take his family from Italy to America in the 19...
Well, basically during the Depression.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
doug stanhope
Your mom's a guinea.
I met her.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's full on.
doug stanhope
WAP. Sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She's full on Guinea.
And my father was half Italian and half Irish.
Everybody was immigrants, though.
From my mom's side, 100%.
My mother, her mother and her father, both from the old country.
See, we don't realize it because we're living in this weird fucking semi-gentrified Starbucks era of 2017. But just during my parents' time, people got on boats.
And they drifted from Europe across America on these shitty engines.
And they landed.
I mean, it was like fucking decades after the Titanic sank.
These crazy fucks.
They took the wildest chance ever.
They floated across the goddamn Atlantic Ocean to look for a better way.
doug stanhope
Hennigan got here on coach!
unidentified
He fucking flew from Southwest.
He was sitting right next to the turrets.
doug stanhope
He almost had a middle seat, but he finagled his way out of it to an aisle.
unidentified
He's an aisle right by the turrets.
I was in border group A, 15 through 30. I mean, this shit just happened.
joe rogan
Our families all just got here.
Even if you're third generation, that's fucking three generations.
That ain't shit.
That's nothing.
Fourth generation, fifth, shut the fuck up.
My parents have been here since the 1900s.
Who, no, that's just, you just got here!
Everybody just got here!
doug stanhope
I live in one of those towns where they love to say, oh, I'm a native.
That makes you better because you never left and decided you wanted to be here as a functioning, free-thinking adult.
No, natives are the first people you discount.
I was born here.
You just moved here.
Well, yeah, because I was an adult and I decided I wanted to live here.
You just didn't have the courage to leave and come back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Sons of bitches.
unidentified
Fuck natives!
joe rogan
It's not even that, honestly.
doug stanhope
Sorry, that was a Bisbee native, not Native Americans.
joe rogan
I know what you mean.
They don't know where to go.
doug stanhope
They're drunk.
joe rogan
The Bisbee people don't know where to go.
You don't have to go anywhere.
Just make the place better.
doug stanhope
Vegas.
Vegas is one of those.
Any city that is only alive and thriving because of tourism, but then they take a stand because, oh, I was born here.
joe rogan
Vegas doesn't do that, do they?
doug stanhope
Hawaii does it with white people.
joe rogan
A little bit, but annoying white people.
doug stanhope
They hate tourists, but if it wasn't for tourists, you're fucking farming pineapples.
Are you farming pineapples or are you selling crocs somewhere in a beach resort?
Are you doing massage therapy?
Are you doing chakra healing?
Or are you farming pineapples?
Because without tourists, you're farming pineapples and hoping Captain Cook's descendants come back and offer you some...
joe rogan
Or you're eating fish that you just caught with a stick and you're trading money in the form of shells on a string.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's okay, too.
Like, why is Bitcoin okay, but shells aren't good?
How come you can't trade in Avalone?
doug stanhope
You just paid me and shells to be here.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna give you.
doug stanhope
Lumps of salt, too.
There were little lumps of salt.
And chocolate gold coins.
In the gift package.
joe rogan
Chocolate gold coins.
And ketogenic cookies.
doug stanhope
And stevia drinks.
joe rogan
Stevia drinks.
doug stanhope
Let's do some ad.
Let's do some ad copy.
joe rogan
I don't have any.
doug stanhope
I'm fine.
joe rogan
What's up?
You okay?
unidentified
I'm fine.
joe rogan
All right, buddy.
doug stanhope
Hey, I want to ask you this.
joe rogan
You don't like headphones, bro?
doug stanhope
Hang on.
Joe Rogan?
This was just in right before I shut off my phone.
The giant...
Oh yeah, please, order the book.
You know what?
Let's take a minute so people can go online and order Doug Stanhope, This Is Not Fame.
It's got awful stories that in the current climate, if the publisher read it right now, they'd go, we should probably pull this.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Yeah, so if you find it, folks, copy it.
doug stanhope
Everyone else is getting fired for what I'm celebrating having done worse.
joe rogan
Copy it.
Copy it down and make sure these monsters out there don't take it off the internet.
doug stanhope
I have.
joe rogan
Net neutrality to the end.
doug stanhope
You have the new beautiful space here.
joe rogan
Thank you.
doug stanhope
Endless yards and yards of space.
unidentified
The wolf.
doug stanhope
You have the giant wolf out there.
When you walk in the door, the...
Is that a Patrick McGee?
joe rogan
Yes.
doug stanhope
Ha ha!
Ghost Ride.
You know, Chaley, remember when I used to pit my tour manager against your Red Band?
Yes.
Greg Chaley.
He's my guy.
I love Greg.
joe rogan
I love him on your podcast as well.
doug stanhope
Him and his twin brother do that for a living.
They have their own Ghost Ride Productions, which is a huge haunt.
They make this shit.
Patrick McGee that did Your Wolf works for Greg Chaley's twin brother.
joe rogan
That's a Hilarious.
doug stanhope
So Ghost Ride Productions, if you want weird shit like that, Joe Rogan, I hope you're a loyal sponsor now of only Ghost Ride Productions.
They do all this shit.
Chaley does a haunted house in the front yard in Bisbee.
He does Haunted Front Yard, and he brings all this shit down every Halloween.
He's so geeked up to do it.
It's the only thing in Bisbee.
joe rogan
I wanted to be one of these guys when I was a kid.
Dude, I was a huge Star Wars fan to the point where I wanted to be like a Rick Baker.
I wanted to do that for a living.
And Pat McGee was on the podcast.
We're both huge fans of An American Werewolf in London.
doug stanhope
That's Pat McGee.
joe rogan
That's right there.
He was on the podcast a few years back, and I found the American Werewolf in London.
What it is, it's a replica of the thing that's in the movie, and Pat sells it.
You can order it online.
And he builds it, but it's like the real exact scale is like one and a half times the size of the real werewolf.
The werewolf is smaller.
My werewolf is bigger.
doug stanhope
I just texted, when we got here today, I texted a picture of that to Chaley.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
And he goes, oh, that looks like a, I go, hey, how's this for Halloween 2018?
For his haunted yard he does in Bisbee.
And he goes, that looks like a Patrick McGee.
He's done work for my brother.
I go, wow, if you called that and Joe Rogan, you fucking nailed it.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
He nailed it.
I think I had to correct myself.
I said it's a one and a half times larger.
I don't think that's right.
I think it's more like 40% larger or something now that I think about it.
I think I'm confusing it with something else.
But the the copy that he makes is definitely larger.
It's so he could work on like the finer details.
There's like blood on the teeth and the hairs.
It's all yak hair around the head and it's all synthetic shit in the back, but that's that's his work.
But if you look at the blood around the teeth...
Dude, here's the thing, man.
doug stanhope
Fucking amazing.
joe rogan
I get great pleasure every time I come to work and I look at that werewolf.
I fucking love it.
doug stanhope
I love it.
joe rogan
I love looking at that thing.
I love the fact that I'm a fucking grown-up baby.
doug stanhope
You smile a lot more anymore.
joe rogan
I smile all the time.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
When you were showing us some shit and you just smiled.
Like, wow, that's a fucking rare smile.
You used to be a lot angrier and I like it.
joe rogan
I got out of that.
You know what?
It's like we were talking about before.
It's like, what are you using your energy on?
Are you using your energy on being upset at things and being in this constant sort of momentum of being upset from the past that you never stop?
Or do you figure out a way to hit the brakes and go, okay.
Why are we angry?
What are we getting upset at?
Why don't we just like take all that caveman shit and just go smash some punching bag and then come back to reality and be like really relaxed about it but do it purposely.
Like have some sort of intent behind it to eliminate the demons.
And I figured out how to do that.
Somewhere along the line.
doug stanhope
Aging helps.
Aging helps a lot.
joe rogan
But it's not just that.
It's not aging as far as, like, decay.
It's aging as far as information.
doug stanhope
Right.
joe rogan
Like, I was talking about, like, if people figure out a way to make humans live to be, like, 900 years old, would it be fucked up if you had sex with a 50 year old?
People are like, you fucking asshole.
She doesn't even know any better.
She's only 50. She's basically a baby.
doug stanhope
If you treat them like that until they're 50 and say you're not an adult.
I know you're 12. You can have a baby right now.
Nature said you are ready to actually procreate, but we've legislated that you can't be an adult until you're 18. So for the next six years, we're just going to treat you like a baby.
joe rogan
That's an unnecessary burden for the boy and the girl and the lack of explaining.
doug stanhope
You're telling them every feeling that you have naturally is wrong.
We're not going to explain that to you.
joe rogan
Right.
doug stanhope
Because we want to give you a good childhood.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
doug stanhope
You shouldn't have to deal with all these adult...
Well, that's what their fucking body's telling them!
So you better be honest, or all of a sudden, your kid's fucking a 38-year-old producer.
joe rogan
Well, it's also the problem with, like, looking at children as being different than a person.
It's like, no, this is mine.
I made them.
You are not gonna like boys, Michael.
You know?
You're gonna like girls, because you're a boy, and you're gonna carry on the Harris name, okay?
unidentified
Ugh!
joe rogan
Alright dad, I'm sorry.
unidentified
I'm not gay.
doug stanhope
If I could have a kid, I would have a kid just for the long term practical joke of raising him gay.
joe rogan
You sound like a lesbian.
doug stanhope
On YouTube.
And say, I was just trying to, who just had a kid?
And I was trying to pitch him this.
Probably Brendan Walsh.
Brendan Walsh.
Like, just go and just act like you're raising your kid gay.
And, you know, when you get older, two men meet each other.
And just say this to a baby.
joe rogan
I think you could easily, and this is gonna sound fucked up, I think you can easily convince a young kid that, like, sex with males is normal if everyone's doing it.
doug stanhope
No, no, the idea was you have to...
Still sex shame the kid.
It's only okay to be gay once you're married after you're 18, but you're gay.
joe rogan
Are you gay when you're married to a girl or a guy?
doug stanhope
The endgame is the kid has to eventually, when he's 18, come out as straight to his parents.
joe rogan
That's a problem if you have really progressive parents.
They're like, dude, we got super street cred for you being gay, you piece of shit.
Do you think you can be straight but trans?
You think you're willing to go there?
doug stanhope
Let them negotiate.
joe rogan
They'll sit down at the table of progressive brownie points.
Hmm.
We were really happy about you being gay, Michael, and you being straight.
Frankly, it's a big bummer to our social system.
It's like, they're gonna think, here's what the word is.
doug stanhope
You're never gonna work at the law firm.
joe rogan
They're gonna think we shamed you out of being gay, and that's simply not the case.
doug stanhope
We have it so easy, Joe, where we can sit here with white privilege that we have.
joe rogan
We're not like Sam Seder.
doug stanhope
Comedy privilege, which we have in droves, which is way better diamond elite status than just white privilege.
We have comedy privilege.
It's true.
Oh, they're just kidding.
No, we're not.
But it says comic.
Okay, if you're going to get cunty about it, I was just kidding.
And then it's all golden.
joe rogan
Well, you're clearly kidding because you're not saying it specifically in a form where you're trying to disseminate information.
You're trying to be funny as well.
So you'll say extreme things that don't necessarily represent your actual viewpoint just because you want it to be more hilarious.
doug stanhope
If Sam Seder were funny all the time rather than that one tweet, he'd be fine.
Sorry, Sam.
Write more.
joe rogan
Jesus!
doug stanhope
It's true.
But we have the luxury of having a social circle that is very tolerant.
Like, to the N-word degree, tolerant in a green room.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
You can't say nigger word degree.
doug stanhope
Oh, that was yesterday.
joe rogan
That doesn't even make sense.
That was like a gratuitous use of the N-word.
doug stanhope
No, I was saying that in a green room when it's just comics, nigger, retard, cunt, dyke, fucking everything flies.
joe rogan
Yes, and when it doesn't, you get super upset.
Like, if someone says, ah, she's a cunt, and someone goes, hey man, you really shouldn't fucking talk about women like that.
doug stanhope
You say you're a cunt.
Right.
To a feminist comedian, in the confines of a green room, everyone's free and clear.
At least the green rooms I've been part of.
joe rogan
Nobody has a problem with you calling a man a cunt.
Nobody.
doug stanhope
Not in the UK. But, I mean, even in America.
joe rogan
If the guy really is a cunt...
Right?
doug stanhope
Sorry, you looked immediately at Hennigan when you said that.
joe rogan
No, he's looking at me, he's nodding, and I'm just trying to bring him into the conversation.
doug stanhope
You mean pull him out of his fucking laptop?
joe rogan
No, a little bit.
You know, we're all talking, we're friends.
Like, Saddam Hussein was a cunt.
I heard his kids were cunts.
His kids?
I heard they were cunts.
Those sons.
Nobody cares.
You could say that.
doug stanhope
The two.
I don't know.
He might have had other sons.
I don't know if they're cunts.
But there were two cunts.
unidentified
Udi was one of them.
doug stanhope
And Cushet.
Cunts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They apparently would find people when they were getting married.
They would take the bride, rape her, and then they would feed her to dogs.
doug stanhope
Wow.
That's a little Caligula.
joe rogan
They were off the top evil.
doug stanhope
Over the top.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I read that and I had to stop reading.
I was like, okay, I can't go on with this.
doug stanhope
That's another thing about aging.
Not giving a fuck, but also giving more of a fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
When we were kids, we're the same age.
We would watch all that Faces of Death shit.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
doug stanhope
Couldn't get enough of it.
Now, I don't want to...
No.
No, I can't watch that shit.
joe rogan
Did you try that stevia?
doug stanhope
No, I won't do it.
Of course you will.
joe rogan
I'm looking at it.
I'm like, he cracked it, he's never gonna drink it.
doug stanhope
Never gonna drink it.
Bingo's all sugar-free, and she used to get a Diet Coke.
We're going through a drive-through.
Diet Coke.
And they pressed the little thing on the top to show you which one's diet and which one's regular.
Check this to make sure, because she knows how much I hate artificial sweeteners.
I don't want to know, because I don't drink that for a reason.
The aftertaste never leaves your fucking mouth.
Stevie is no different.
Splenda.
What's the sucralose?
It's awful.
I just can't have sugar, so try this for me.
joe rogan
If you're a thirsty diabetic and you pull up to the Wendy's drive-thru at 1.45 a.m., what percentage of the time do you get a giant vat of sugar?
If you're like, I just like, extra large, Diet Coke, that's it.
Okay!
doug stanhope
Don't.
joe rogan
At least one out of a hundred, you're getting a vat of sugar water, right?
At least one out of a hundred.
unidentified
I mean, I'm assuming it's kind of like in restaurants, they don't brew anything other than decaf after eight o'clock.
joe rogan
I think the dude who's monitoring that thing is going to slip on a puddle of his own drool and slam his head into the regular Coke.
It's going to fill your shit up with something that's going to give you a seizure.
That's what I think.
I'm going to fill that fucking thing up to the top with very little ice because he doesn't want to be cheap.
doug stanhope
Oh, this is where I was going.
I fucking had a thing I was going to.
Oh.
This is about...
joe rogan
Hennigan?
doug stanhope
Yeah.
Last year.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
doug stanhope
A year ago.
A little bit over a year ago.
End of the World Podcast.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
doug stanhope
I don't know if I've seen you once since then.
joe rogan
I think we saw each other once.
I think you came to the store once.
unidentified
You've been back on here, I think.
doug stanhope
Maybe.
Either way, end of the world podcast.
I was not in a good place, to say the least.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I will tell you one thing that I said to all my friends.
I said I admire the fact that you pushed through it, and even though you were a little bit flustered, you were still gregarious.
doug stanhope
I can't watch the video.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
You were in a weird place.
doug stanhope
Tell everybody why.
My gal, Bingo, had just gone into...
Possibly terminal.
She had a seizure, fell down, smashed her head on the cement, life-flighted in a coma.
She might not make it.
If she does make it, it might be worse than not making it at all.
And I said...
joe rogan
I didn't know how to handle that.
doug stanhope
Fuck.
I didn't know either.
But I made the decision since it happened during her 40th birthday party.
So all of her friends and family were at the house in Bisbee.
It happened.
So she's surrounded by all these people who took a week off to be there for a five-day party.
They're there.
I can't help her.
She's in a coma.
Me standing with the family staring at a half-corpse is not going to help.
Bucket, I'm going to do this thing.
This is a big deal.
And it was a huge...
joe rogan
It's pretty goddamn epic, Douglas.
doug stanhope
Fucking amazing.
joe rogan
We were there when Donald Trump was elected president, and Bill Burr might have had the greatest podcast appearance of all time.
You know what it was like?
It was like one of them Michael Jordan things that you would watch when you were a kid, and you're like, what the fuck?
doug stanhope
It's how he...
His whole heckler YouTube thing in Philly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's him.
doug stanhope
And now he one-upped it by doing the End of the World podcast.
joe rogan
He was on fire.
He was on fire.
I mean, he was on fire with the point where everybody stepped back.
unidentified
Except...
joe rogan
What was the gal that had a different...
Well, this is where we're going.
unidentified
Sarah Tiana.
doug stanhope
I don't know her.
joe rogan
That was all because of Brian Hennigan.
doug stanhope
Exactly.
This is where we're going.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
Because I wanted to name drop Olivia Grace.
joe rogan
She's hilarious.
doug stanhope
Fucking funny.
joe rogan
She just did a show...
doug stanhope
Yeah, she said she started when she was 18, now she's 22. She just did a show at my house.
They were just on tour.
That's hilarious.
And goddammit, I can't remember something Jewish with a first name.
joe rogan
Jewie McJewstein?
doug stanhope
No, they're on tour.
Fuck, I'm sorry, Jewie guy.
Jewie, Jewie?
They were both funny.
They showed up.
Jewie, Jewie, Jewie, Jewie.
Goddamn, look it up.
Find it somehow.
Olivia Grace's Twitter.
joe rogan
She's hilarious.
doug stanhope
They're on tour.
joe rogan
Point being, Olivia Grace.
doug stanhope
So they come through, they had a night off, and they stayed at the house, and we forced them to do a show.
joe rogan
Oh, it sounds like rape.
doug stanhope
I don't know if that was Thanksgiving or what.
joe rogan
You force them to do a show.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
Well, she didn't have to watch me jerk off.
joe rogan
In 20 years, doing a show, forcing someone to do a show is gonna be the new rape.
unidentified
Eric Friedman.
doug stanhope
Eric Friedman.
Chewy.
joe rogan
The first name's not Chewy.
doug stanhope
Anyway, they went up.
joe rogan
It's like the original Hulk.
doug stanhope
We had Castle Rock Kenny go up and do rap first, so...
We have a little stage in our little fun house where we do our podcast, and we can make it a show like that, and it's always the best audiences.
Never has a show failed there.
They're always great, because my...
joe rogan
They're in your house.
doug stanhope
But the people that come to my house, they couldn't name their favorite comedian because they don't know.
They'd go, Jim Belushi?
Is he a comedian still?
They're great.
They killed.
She fucking crushed.
But she told me, let's get back to the End of the World podcast.
I had told Hennigan, yeah, we should probably have some kind of diversity.
This is before that night.
All rules are changed.
joe rogan
Someone's looking for a fucking development deal.
doug stanhope
Well, when we were planning it out, what it should be, that night, I'm fucked.
My head is, is my lady gonna live or die?
Why am I here?
I shouldn't have done this.
Let's make the best of it.
I go in the bathroom and the fucking...
The shower.
For some reason they have a shower.
joe rogan
There's a shower at the back of the Comedy Store.
No one's ever used it once.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
joe rogan
So stupid.
doug stanhope
I would go back there and I'd fucking fall apart crying and then I'd come back out on stage and try to keep it together.
Well, Hennigan is still thinking...
I told...
We need women on this.
It's all white men.
So he's just...
He has no discretion.
He's just getting...
Any woman enforcing her on stage, and you're going, what the fuck?
I wasn't there.
I wasn't there when she came out.
You were saying, why is she?
I go, it's probably my fault.
I probably...
Why's your manager saying we need women?
Well, I probably said it, but...
joe rogan
Here's the thing that's important.
Most of the people that you had on that dais, that stage, whether it's Bill Burr, whether it's Burt Kreischer, or Doug, or me...
doug stanhope
Jeffrey showed up with his kid?
joe rogan
That was the weirdest.
unidentified
That was weird.
joe rogan
He came on stage with a little kid, and we were like, hey man, you literally can't do this.
doug stanhope
Legally.
joe rogan
Like, legally can't do this.
I can't say it's okay to do this.
We can't talk about the same things that we were going to talk in front of your kid.
It's fucking creepy.
Like, if you have your kid on stage and Doug wants to talk about anal vibrators and, like, it's the hardest he's ever come, and, you know, the gal was drowning and gagging, but it felt so good.
He's like, how long does it take before you can resuscitate someone with no brain damage?
Like, what if she blacks out from all the comments coming out because of...
doug stanhope
Let's get back to this.
joe rogan
You couldn't do that in front of his kid.
doug stanhope
Let me get the point and let's go back to this.
Because Olivia Grace, when she was down in Bisbee, she said she was there that night when Brian Hennigan was scouring the audience for female comics.
Don't throw Brian under the bus.
She's very boyish.
She has a very short haircut.
She's very boyish.
unidentified
And he's like, no, we need female comedians.
doug stanhope
And he tapped her and he went...
Not you.
Alan moved on!
joe rogan
Oh, Brian, you're a piece of shit.
doug stanhope
Olivia, if I did that, a discredit.
If there was a better story, we'll call in on the hotline.
unidentified
She's hilarious.
joe rogan
You're fired.
doug stanhope
Anyway.
joe rogan
You're fired from the production of The End of the World Part 2. Let's do another one.
When do you want to do it?
doug stanhope
We have to find...
I've been looking for it since you said that.
joe rogan
Let's do it in January.
Let's do it at the Comedy Store in January, and let's just find some random Tuesday.
Hey, shut the fuck up!
Who let this guy talk?!
unidentified
It'd be good if you had something to...
Oh, maybe we can bring some women or some blacks.
joe rogan
Do you have any people to call her?
We can insert into the podcast.
unidentified
Well, I'm sorry for...
I'm sorry for adapting to America.
joe rogan
Oh, listen, you're not adapting to America.
You're influencing art.
How dare you?
unidentified
Let's do it on the anniversary of the Amistad.
Perhaps we should make this podcast comprised of Shabrila law.
doug stanhope
Can we comply with Sharia law?
joe rogan
You don't want to be an Islamophobic on a podcast in 2018?
doug stanhope
How long do women wear the burqas?
It's going to be on YouTube.
unidentified
You don't want to ruin the desert.
joe rogan
No new ideas in the middle of the desert, lad.
doug stanhope
Hey, 2017!
unidentified
We need equal parts vaginas and penises.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter how funny they are.
unidentified
Come on, we gotta avoid criticism at all costs.
doug stanhope
I, again, I take credit.
I was probably the one who said it.
joe rogan
No, it's my fault.
I fucked up.
I should have talked to everybody beforehand.
doug stanhope
There was no talking to me.
joe rogan
I should have talked to the security guards and said, don't let anybody back here.
No one gets on stage unless Doug and I say yes.
Tell Hannigan to shut the fuck up.
doug stanhope
I know only from hearing secondhand, even though I was there.
I knew there was, whatever that girl was, there was a...
joe rogan
Saratiana?
doug stanhope
Oh, Morgan Murphy was on it, too.
joe rogan
Morgan Murphy's amazing.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Look, and I like Sara Tiana, too.
I wasn't there when the issue happened, but she apparently had some issue, and it was all not a humorous discussion.
It was like a sincere discussion of how bad it was that Donald Trump was going to win and how bad it was for women, because it was right after the Grab Them By The Pussy video or audio video.
So there was a lot of shit going on.
I wasn't there.
I'd gone to the other room.
I did a set in the OR, and I came back, and everybody was like, oh man, he missed this crazy blowout between Bill Burr and Saratiana.
doug stanhope
That's my point, is that is not a negative or a deficit if there's huge blown-up conflict on a podcast.
People actually...
That's not what we planned.
joe rogan
You're right.
doug stanhope
But people will click on it because they heard at some point there's a big blowout.
joe rogan
As long as we can keep Sarah Tiana off Twitter for a couple weeks.
doug stanhope
I don't know her.
I don't remember her.
joe rogan
But I mean reading the people that commented on it.
Some of the people were like particularly fucking mean when they commented on it.
I'm like, okay, okay, everybody relax.
doug stanhope
Bingo put out a book.
It's not a book.
Her first mental institution stay when she was 5150, against her will, like when she was hardcore crazy before we get together, she wrote like an Anne Frank diary in the moment of what's going on.
And she put that out as a book, her Anne Frank diary.
And, you know, bingo.
She's a soft touch.
And I'm like, you can't read comments.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
doug stanhope
You're not strong enough.
People on the internet, there's gonna be someone who's a fucking asshole.
So just don't go there.
She does.
Eventually, someone's gonna be a fucking cocksucker and you're not gonna be able to handle it.
You're not like us.
I have a hard time.
I won't look at fucking YouTube comments.
I don't want to know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's just not...
Here's the thing.
I wish everybody was cool.
And there's an absolute reality when you do...
You put out as much content as you or I or a lot of us.
There's gonna be some stuff that you like and stuff that you don't like.
And there's just gonna be styles you like.
There's certain people that don't like...
Someone the other day online, I showed a picture of me and Dave Attell.
And they were like, fuck that guy, he's never funny.
I'm like, oh my god!
Okay, you can exist.
I don't think you should die, but I can't talk to you.
I just can't.
I got done watching David Tell for 20 minutes of the improv with half a crowd, and I was fucking literally crying.
doug stanhope
You don't want to do comedy again.
joe rogan
It was wonderful.
It was a break.
I got to be an audience member.
It was amazing.
But somebody out there was like, fuck that guy.
Would he say fuck that guy if he's sitting next to me in that room that night?
Man, there's no way.
There's no way.
There was only like...
There might have been 60 people in that room and Attell was destroying.
I mean, destroying.
I was like, you can't say fuck that guy if you watch that.
It was so funny.
unidentified
Isn't it often the case that...
I know this definitely with Doug's audience.
joe rogan
Do you hate headphones?
doug stanhope
They're hurting my fucking ears.
You guys can swap out.
I just fucking sweat.
unidentified
But isn't it the case that...
There's somebody who's like one of Doug's fans who's like, I'm helping Joe by saying get rid of that guy because I just want to hear Joe.
doug stanhope
Like it's a competition.
That's the problem with the last comic standings.
People go, oh, you're way better than so-and-so.
It's not a competition.
They do that in your face.
joe rogan
They'll do it to you.
They'll walk right up to you and go, you are so much funnier than that guy.
doug stanhope
The guy that you brought out of your own pocket because you thought that...
This guy should be known to your audience.
They act like this opening act was forced upon you.
No, I brought him out of my own pocket because I thought you would enjoy him and he needs to be seen.
joe rogan
Right.
doug stanhope
And you're fucking...
joe rogan
I like that you do that.
You do that like I do that.
I think that's super important.
You know, bring guys like Brendan Walsh out on the road and all these dudes you bring out and tell people about them.
But that's a big part about this era, as opposed to the old eras, is that I think this era is more supportive.
There's more opportunities, so people don't feel famine.
You know, they don't feel like, oh, only one guy could be the host of The Tonight Show.
That's not a thing anymore.
doug stanhope
No, no.
joe rogan
Like, if somebody offered me The Tonight Show, I'd be like, what the...
What do you want me to do?
You want me to go and fucking talk about shit I don't want to talk about?
What do you think happens if you make more money?
doug stanhope
We did Ferguson last night.
joe rogan
I thought you meant where the riots took place.
doug stanhope
No, no, Craig Ferguson, we did his podcast last night, and I told him, I go, I hated you when I first saw you, because I don't watch late night, but if I was flipping channels and I saw you for a minute with your accent and getting your face into that, like, fisheye lens thing he would do in his monologue, I didn't like you until I heard you on Stern, and all of a sudden he was a human being for an hour and 20 minutes.
He's a guy with good stories, and he hated...
He's like, no one would accept the fact that he did not want to do anything else.
They're offering him other projects.
He's like, no, I'm good.
I'm done.
joe rogan
But Hollywood hates that.
doug stanhope
He quit.
joe rogan
I mean, that's the greatest thing about his decision-making.
He's like, I don't want to do this anymore.
And now he does stand-up, and he just did a Netflix special.
doug stanhope
Yeah, and he's doing a podcast because he goes, I've got to do something.
I want to talk, but I don't want to do it by their rules.
And no one believes when you don't have...
That's kind of half the through line of the book.
I want to do what I do, but no one buys that you don't need to be more famous.
I liken it to eating eggplant.
If I eat a little bit of eggplant and I don't like it, I know I don't want more.
joe rogan
Eggplant's delicious.
Do you not like eggplant?
doug stanhope
Oh, with stevia on it.
Fuck it.
joe rogan
You ever had eggplant parmesan?
doug stanhope
One time my mother tried to make it, and it was so grotesque that when she's saying, you gotta eat it, and then when she tried it, she goes, alright, give me all your plates.
This came out bad.
Sorry.
joe rogan
Well, maybe that's what it was.
Maybe if you went to a real Italian restaurant, Yonkers, or something like that.
doug stanhope
If you don't like a little bit of fame, you know you're not gonna like a lot.
joe rogan
Yes.
doug stanhope
So it's not like...
joe rogan
Well, I think you like a little bit.
Let's be real.
doug stanhope
A little bit is great.
joe rogan
You like a little bit.
And I think a little bit is good.
I think it's all good as long as the numbers are manageable and you can stay yourself.
I think the real problem is when you go, look, here's the best example.
Michael Jackson.
There's never been a better example in the world of toxicity due to celebrity status.
Like, you hit critical levels.
You hit some Three Mile Island shit.
You hit some Chernobyl shit.
It's impossible to maintain the amount of energy that's coming your way as a normal human being.
I mean, you don't have any unique DNA that allows you to deal with the idea that 300 million people know who you are, or more.
If you're Michael Jackson, they want to tear your DNA out and put it in a Petri dish and make a fucking clone out of you.
doug stanhope
And frame it and put it in their man cave.
joe rogan
And there's a bunch of people that think that maybe you're molesting kids and you got a fucking amusement park in your backyard and you're literally losing your mind.
And you tell a guy, hey man, I can't sleep.
I want you to anesthetize me every night in a fucking tube.
Just put me in some fucking crazy hyperbaric chamber and pump in the gas.
I mean, this guy was off the fucking reservation.
There had never been anybody that famous before.
He was literally the guy with the candle at the end of the universe.
Going, oh my god, I think there's more room!
doug stanhope
No one's ever been here before!
joe rogan
No one's ever been that famous.
And what happened?
He went crazy.
He went completely insane.
And died young.
And nowhere between 1990 and 2017 does it look like any of what's happened to him is manageable.
It's like he's running down a hill, like tumbling down a hill, and he's okay for the first decade, maybe the first two decades, but after a while he's just getting chewed the fuck up, psychologically, physically.
He keeps getting more plastic surgery.
doug stanhope
And his psyche, I don't think he was ever...
Very stable psychologically.
joe rogan
No, no, I don't think so either.
I mean, I don't know, but have you ever seen that documentary on him?
It's fucking amazing.
doug stanhope
I love that.
That documentary is the first time...
unidentified
This is it.
joe rogan
This is it.
Yeah, it's amazing.
doug stanhope
It's brilliant.
Again, I don't know music.
To watch that, you go, oh, this guy really did know what the fuck he was doing.
I just don't get it.
He was really brilliant.
I just think the songs suck.
joe rogan
Well, they suck...
In terms of what you want to hear right now.
Everything requires context, right?
Do you remember when...
I was a kid, and I remember this really clearly because I was in high school and I was living at home and I was listening to WCOZ in Boston.
No.
W... FNX? No.
No, WCOZ. That was right.
WCOZ in Boston.
It was a radio station in Boston in the 1980s.
It was a rock and roll station.
And the guy came on who was a DJ. I wish I could remember.
It wasn't Mark Parenteau, who was like the big one.
It wasn't Dave Maynard in the morning.
But the guy came on.
He played Michael Jackson.
He played a Michael Jackson song.
I think it was Beat It.
And he said, look, I know this.
No, he played Billie Jean.
He goes, I know this isn't rock and roll because it's so good.
I have to play it.
And he played it.
And he played Billie Jean.
doug stanhope
There was no Twitter back then.
Fuckin' with this nigger music!
joe rogan
Well, not only that, this guy was a real DJ. He was like one of the last of the real DJs that could literally decide, hey, I just heard this...
doug stanhope
Wolfman Jack.
joe rogan
Yeah, this Lou Reed record that you fuckers have to hear from the beginning to the end.
I want you to listen from the beginning to the end.
So I'm gonna play this.
You know, you hear Bruce Springsteen when he was like 30, you know?
Like beginning to the end, you know?
They used to do that.
They used to sit there and listen.
That doesn't exist anymore.
This is one of the problems with money, right?
There's problems with trademarks and the ability to put things on YouTube and whether or not you can get credit for this or put that up or that up.
A radio station, if it just wanted to appear right now and do like that kind of a thing, it'd probably be almost impossible.
Like, how many radio stations are there in the world where they would let you just play a whole Bruce Springsteen album from the beginning to the end?
doug stanhope
Well, terrestrial radio at this point could probably play child porn, just soundtracks, and no one's listening anymore.
Do you still do, like, goober in the morning when you have to promote a gig?
I don't have to do that.
joe rogan
I don't, but I miss some people.
I miss Kevin and Bean.
doug stanhope
Johnny Dare in Kansas City.
joe rogan
I miss that guy.
He's a good guy.
doug stanhope
We didn't have to do it, but Johnny Dare and I have enough of a history, so when I went to Kansas City, I got there the night before, I said, alright, if I wake up at 6 a.m., which I did, and we went down just for fun and we took over morning radio.
And Johnny Dare, in passing, he's like, he knows my house is all weird, so he's showing me pictures of his house, and he's got all sorts of fucked up weird kind of things, and...
What's his name?
Patrick McGee!
joe rogan
Oh.
I'm like, I go...
doug stanhope
No, I go, yeah, my tour manager, Greg Chaley, does Ghost Ride.
He goes, all this shit came from Ghost Ride!
I go to the St. Louis...
Yeah, that's the second time now that a morning radio guy like Joe Rogan...
joe rogan
I'm wanting to go.
Meanwhile, Hennessy's over there reading.
doug stanhope
Hennessy?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
I was just checking up on...
joe rogan
I was just reading the comments and seeing if we should alter our behavior.
unidentified
He's not a guest.
joe rogan
I was bringing more diversity.
unidentified
I've got a few African students I would like to have into the studio.
doug stanhope
For the record, Hennigan is not technically a guest.
joe rogan
His name's Hennessy.
doug stanhope
But when Hennessy is a guest on my podcast, he does the same thing.
He'll sit there.
You can't fucking read your laptop.
While you're a guest.
You can't do that.
joe rogan
Close that shit, bitch.
unidentified
I just wanted to look at...
doug stanhope
He's fine.
He's tweeting.
unidentified
I was looking at the...
Because I remember noticing this before.
Somebody had edited out the best of Bill Burr on the podcast election night as a standalone video.
And it's got 900,000 views.
Just the best of Bill Burr.
joe rogan
He smashed it.
He smashed it.
It was so perfect for him because he had material...
doug stanhope
Fucking held it up.
joe rogan
It was awesome.
But it was great to have all those other people keep coming in.
No, dude, you were great.
Listen, you and I have been friends for so long, I knew what you were going through.
I was like, I just don't know what to do.
I didn't know how to handle it.
I didn't know to joke around with you.
doug stanhope
But I was trying to bail out of it before the coma.
I was saying, I don't think I'm the guy for the job.
You're like, fuck you, you're coming to L.A. So then when the seizure happened, I go, he's going to think that her coma is an excuse.
joe rogan
I didn't.
doug stanhope
But I was in a fucking place.
joe rogan
How about Marilyn Manson backstage with a golf shirt on or some shit?
doug stanhope
Oh my god, he showed up.
unidentified
He showed up like...
doug stanhope
The end of the movie Flight, which is the best ending to a movie ever.
That's the Denzel Washington where he crashes the plane, but he saves the entire crew like Sully.
joe rogan
Like Lost.
doug stanhope
Like Sully.
joe rogan
Right.
doug stanhope
Like Lost.
But he was fucked up.
He was jacked and fucked in the movie.
And at the end, he's drunk as shit.
And John Goodman, his drug dealer, comes in and fixes him with cocaine so he can testify.
joe rogan
Whoa.
doug stanhope
It's the best ending of a movie ever.
joe rogan
I might have to go see that movie.
doug stanhope
Watch the beginning, and then fast forward through the fluff in the middle and get to the end, and it's one of the best.
Manson showed up.
joe rogan
Jamie, take notes.
Beginning.
The void of the middle.
doug stanhope
There's an Artoid.
There's a giant picture in Johnny's house where I'm staring at this.
It looks like Manson.
And I thought, fuck, Manson, as weird and unstable as he is, is the only guy I can think of that would understand where I am right now, why I'm here, how fucked I am, what's going on, and I called him and he answered his phone, which he never answers his phone, at 5.30 at night, which is morning for him.
And I told him what's going on.
He said, I'll be there in 30 minutes.
And he showed up with Krispy Kremes and cocaine.
And he fixed the whole problem.
And then he showed up and he sat backstage.
He wouldn't come out on stage.
And once I was beckoning for him to come out, that's when his management people caught wind of the fact that he's about to go out.
And his handler had to drag him away.
But he saved my fucking life that night.
joe rogan
Who are his fucking handlers?
doug stanhope
Who knows?
joe rogan
We need to talk to them.
Tell them to relax.
doug stanhope
They're writing a book right now.
unidentified
Look at me.
joe rogan
Relax.
Settle down.
You're handling Marilyn motherfucking Manson.
Okay?
doug stanhope
Alright.
joe rogan
There you go.
It's not Jim Neighbors.
Okay?
You just let him go.
doug stanhope
He's one of the few guys that are actually still rock and roll guys.
joe rogan
Really doing it.
Oh my god.
What do they want to do?
Keep them out of legal trouble?
Keep them alive?
Get the fuck out of here.
You need a secondary version.
You need guys who are lawyers who are on Adderall, and they report to the lawyers who are sober.
You have two filters.
You have dudes who understand people on coke.
Because they're basically on some sort of synthetic coke, and then they have to wear police body cameras, and they report to the lawyers who are sober, who get drug tested every day.
And they go, okay, what exactly is going on?
Everybody has a say, and they bean count together, and they go, how do we handle this?
Well, we handle this by the fact that we're handling Marilyn fucking Manson!
Let him do it!
Let him go!
Give him the gun!
doug stanhope
He's such a sweet dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a very nice guy.
I met him a couple of times.
He's always been very friendly, like genuinely friendly.
doug stanhope
Sorry, I turned that on.
I was going to show you a picture.
I can't wait to tweet this, but I have to wait for the right time.
joe rogan
I like the fact that you shut off your phone like a gentleman.
Plus, I like the fact that your phone makes a starting noise from 2006. What is that?
One of them Samsung Galaxy ones?
doug stanhope
Rogan used to bust my balls because I was the last guy with a flip phone.
joe rogan
So depressing.
doug stanhope
And you'd have all the new gadgetry.
And I was so proud to have a flip phone.
But when we started working the UK... Nobody calls.
Everyone only texts, because I guess phone calls cost a fucking thousand pounds a minute or something.
So I had to actually get a smartphone, but I still long for the flip phone days.
joe rogan
Well, Samsung just came out with a new phone that's a hybrid.
It's a combination of a smartphone and a flip phone.
And you open it up, and you can get an actual keyboard.
And you talk to people, just like a regular flip phone, and when you're done, you hang it up, and the front of the phone is a bezel-less smartphone.
So the front of the phone acts...
doug stanhope
Bezel-less?
joe rogan
Yeah, like you can do text messages, you can view the internet, and then when you want to open it up and make phone calls, it acts like a regular old school flip phone.
And people really like it, in terms of like pressing physical buttons.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
Can you watch a movie on your fucking smartphone?
No.
I know people that...
On behalf of Bisbee, they don't have cable.
That's why football is popular at my house, because no one has TV. So they can't watch it unless they come to my house.
But I know people that watch, they'll just sit and watch an entire movie on a phone.
I can't watch it on a 32-inch screen.
I need a big fucking screen to watch a movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think 100%.
I go, the only time that there's that phone, the only time is like when you're on a plane or something, you're trapped and all you have is your phone.
Look at that phone, Doug.
Look at that screen.
So the front of it is like an iPhone.
doug stanhope
Is it 60 inches?
joe rogan
No.
doug stanhope
That would be an awkward phone call.
joe rogan
You can't carry that around, bro.
You don't even understand inches, bro.
That's the size of like an iPhone 6 or some shit.
Actually, it looks a little bigger than that, doesn't it, Jamie?
How big is it?
How big is the screen?
unidentified
I had it on the webpage.
doug stanhope
When I had to decide which picture goes in the book and which doesn't because there's too many dick pics, I deleted this and put in the me pulling my dick out in front of Louis CK but I can't wait to tweet this.
joe rogan
Let me see that.
doug stanhope
I have to apologize.
I was wrong.
You touched it wrong.
joe rogan
I didn't touch it yet?
Jesus Christ.
doug stanhope
He's angry.
By the way, this exhaust system...
Bad touch, Rogan.
joe rogan
Gotta ramp this thing up.
doug stanhope
Yeah.
Are we out?
Are we going towards a...
Yeah, I pulled my dick out in front of her, but what about the three or four people in between?
joe rogan
Everybody seems okay with it.
doug stanhope
Yeah, that was back when it was kind of my thing.
joe rogan
Sarah Silverman's there, she's smiling.
doug stanhope
I know, that's the point.
joe rogan
Did you ask?
doug stanhope
Did you ask first?
No, no.
I was fluffing.
You can tell in the picture I was fluffing.
joe rogan
Are you prepared for shame?
doug stanhope
I'm ready for it.
joe rogan
You might get it.
You might have to get this.
Is there a place where people can view this?
doug stanhope
No, I was going to tweet it.
joe rogan
Let me talk to you about this.
doug stanhope
Alright.
joe rogan
Let's wait.
Let's wait.
I've got some ideas.
doug stanhope
I already said Sarah Silverman.
joe rogan
Well, Sarah Silverman is a friend and a wonderful comedian and a colleague.
And I think you and I both respect her as equals.
doug stanhope
I do.
I didn't want her to get into any trouble because she wrote a is it okay to love Louis C.K. thing.
joe rogan
Call me first.
doug stanhope
Well, is it okay to love me?
Because here's me with my dick out in front of you.
joe rogan
Here's the thing.
It might not be anymore.
This is why we need to burn that.
You need to burn your whole phone.
You need to get a modern phone that allows you to take photos and get online.
And then you need to burn that thing.
Because you can't have those pictures floating around.
It's important, man.
doug stanhope
I'm sorry I was the guy that put it out.
unidentified
So sad.
doug stanhope
Those are developed pictures from a photo mat.
joe rogan
I think it's going to take a little time, but once we get through this, we're going to find some sort of a reasonable agreement where when you can and cannot pull your dick out.
Because what we need to do when people are young, boys and girls, install a small, like some sort of a sexual equivalent to a turkey tester, or something like a green light, you know, like, ding!
It goes off, like, okay, you can pull your dick out now, sir.
Like, I'm 23 years old, I've been going to college, I've had sex with 17 men.
doug stanhope
But that's more the time you should pull your dick out.
It's when you're our age, that's inappropriate, unless they're our age too, which, you know what, there's no 50-year-old comics hitting on 50-year-old women.
joe rogan
Mmm, maybe.
doug stanhope
Which is, uh...
joe rogan
Maybe, but, like, what if, like...
It's a woman like Christy Brinkley.
She's like 63. She's still hot as fuck.
doug stanhope
Well, then you go, oh my god, I'm your age, so I know who you are.
Unlike young men, you're just happy to be there.
You don't pull your dick out.
I wish I did this years ago when it was erect.
joe rogan
How many people would be mad if a woman pulled her vagina out?
Almost zero.
Right?
Like, who would feel threatened?
That's the real problem.
The real problem is the physical violence potential and the number of people that have been raped.
That's the real problem.
Because if it's just about weird sex things, like...
doug stanhope
Well, this is...
Which is the bit that I've been working on is the difference between...
joe rogan
Hot as fuck.
Take it or leave it.
doug stanhope
Yo.
joe rogan
Come on, bitch.
doug stanhope
Christy Brinkley does not live a human life in perfect lighting with perfect makeup.
joe rogan
You don't need that.
doug stanhope
You just need glasses.
joe rogan
Dark ones.
doug stanhope
No, at some point she's hunched over like I am with this posture, wearing reading glasses thicker than ours, trying to focus on something on a laptop, and that spill belly is hanging over her cunt because eight kids came out of it.
joe rogan
That's when you both put on mascot masks.
Like you're the squirrel and she's the raccoon and you guys just fuck by the firelight.
Just get right in front of that goddamn fireplace and go to town.
doug stanhope
Molly and X is so overrated because it leads to all these problems.
joe rogan
It certainly can.
It certainly can lead to a weird, unofficial bond with people, right?
Imagine this.
doug stanhope
If hugging people, if committing to hugging people was as intimate as committing to having sex with people, Well, hugging people is really quick, and no one says, oh, he hugged too soon.
I was hoping it was going to be a long hug, but his hug was done in seconds, like he was a teenager on his first hug.
joe rogan
The man does not have the right to pull out of the hug before the woman wants to end the hug.
Period.
We all know this.
doug stanhope
Can you hug twice in a night?
joe rogan
No, no, don't do it.
Because the second hug will be unenthusiastic and not representative of your soul.
Who you are as a spiritual being.
You need to only hug once a week.
Once a week with someone you love.
doug stanhope
Porn has changed the game.
Porn has ruined fucking...
And it's continuing to ruin fucking...
joe rogan
It's just setting you up for robot fuck dolls.
Have you seen that stripper robot that gyrates on the pole?
There's a robot that goes on the stripper pole, and it's clearly a robot.
You see all the mechanical parts, but it's moving his ass like some beautiful woman with a perfect ass.
Okay, okay.
We are so close to not being able to tell.
I don't know if we understand what exponential increases in technology are.
Look at this.
Look at this robot.
She's gyrating on this pole.
So she's holding this pole.
Okay, well right now you can see her joints and all that stuff, and I know she's not a human even though she's wearing high-heeled shoes.
How many more years do we have before that is fixed?
doug stanhope
But how often did you need that?
You went to see strippers because you wanted the threat of getting pussy.
You didn't need her to spin around a brass pole.
If she was just there, vacant, robotic, and...
Ass, a splay, and a kimbo.
You just fuck her.
You wouldn't go, I need you to dance.
I need to want it more.
All that does is make you want it when you didn't want it to begin with.
Oh, I didn't think about fucking until she did all that thing on the brass pole.
Now I have a boner.
Now I'm using that as my leader.
Do you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Not particularly.
doug stanhope
If you weren't thinking about fucking, and then there's a girl dancing around a brass pole, shaking her ass, like, oh, now I have a boner, now I'm thinking about fucking, where I would have just talked to you.
joe rogan
Well, if a girl's just sitting outside reading a book not thinking about fucking, and Jason Momoa shows up, and he's in an open shirt, like some sort of...
doug stanhope
Who is this guy that you fantasize about?
joe rogan
The guy from the Game of Thrones!
unidentified
Conan!
doug stanhope
Put him on, put him on.
joe rogan
And he's chopping wood.
doug stanhope
Travis?
Is that his name, Travis?
joe rogan
Jamie.
He's chopping wood with a giant axe and the girls get all juicy just looking at him because he's perfect.
That's him.
Shut the fuck up.
doug stanhope
Come on.
I was going to say, with a nipple ring, but that was the cursor.
joe rogan
Come on.
He's a handsome man.
doug stanhope
He's very friendly, too.
joe rogan
I met him at Whole Foods.
You say he's not because you're not a woman.
By the way, he's about 6'4".
doug stanhope
There's a baseball player.
What's his name?
From the Nationals.
The most beautiful man in sports.
I always call him Jason...
Justin?
The guy with the big beard from the Nationals.
He's a fucking gorgeous Viking, but that guy's a muscle-bound...
You're into weird dudes.
I'm going to have to say this, Joe.
joe rogan
I'm into dudes that girls like.
doug stanhope
Worth.
Worth with an E. W-E-R-T-H. That guy is fucking gorgeous.
joe rogan
Okay, it's not a competition in Douglas.
doug stanhope
Yes, it is.
It is fucking now.
joe rogan
Why do you have an issue with Jason Momoa?
doug stanhope
He's a beautiful man.
Because we're going to end this podcast with a Twitter...
Who do you like, ladies?
Because, you know, we both have 80% male fan bases.
joe rogan
More than that.
I went on Instagram.
doug stanhope
Jason Worth.
joe rogan
Okay, I'm with you.
doug stanhope
He's beautiful.
That's the one.
The one you were just touching.
That's the one.
joe rogan
Look at his traps.
doug stanhope
Fucking that guy.
joe rogan
I bet he looks great naked.
doug stanhope
Do you have naked photos of Jason Worth?
joe rogan
I bet he's a dick like a baseball bat.
A giant one.
Not even one of those ones you give out for free.
doug stanhope
All you ladies listening, Jason Worth or?
joe rogan
Jason Momoa.
doug stanhope
Battle of the Jasons.
joe rogan
Battle of the Jasons.
Listen, it's just a matter of like, what do you want to do?
Do you want to live in a mansion?
Or do you want to live on the beach and raise your kids in the sand?
Okay, you got to pick your poison.
doug stanhope
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Jason Momoa is like, he came over on a fucking raft.
Like, he's like some kind of Polynesian god.
He's from Hawaii.
It's like six foot four.
doug stanhope
Hawaii's kind of the most expensive state to live in.
joe rogan
Only for white people.
doug stanhope
It's a refugee?
joe rogan
For white people.
You're not even paying attention.
Do you know how many islands there are in Hawaii, bro?
unidentified
Five?
joe rogan
So racist.
unidentified
Five?
doug stanhope
Sorry, is this a bonus question?
Do you smell like smoke enough that you're going to get in trouble when you get home?
unidentified
No.
doug stanhope
How old are your kids now?
joe rogan
Seven and nine for the young ones.
I've got a...
doug stanhope
Daddy smells like cigarette smoke.
joe rogan
I've got shirts here that I could change.
But it's good that you did this.
You changed smoke through this because we realized this system sucks.
doug stanhope
Yeah, I noticed that early on.
joe rogan
Whoever is making this system, I've been breathing it.
I've definitely got a secondhand nicotine high.
unidentified
It should be called the Steinhoop Test.
joe rogan
It doesn't work.
doug stanhope
No, it didn't.
Jason did tell me before you showed up late.
joe rogan
You've got to think like a bar.
Think like a bar.
Don't think like your grandma smoking occasionally in the bathroom.
doug stanhope
We're going to get a little bathroom fan.
I said, did Rogan put this system in specifically for me?
And he goes, I think so.
joe rogan
Definitely for you and Dice Clay.
doug stanhope
You too.
unidentified
And Attell.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Attell.
Yeah, he's another one who can't live without the cigarettes.
We were outside, he just keeps going.
doug stanhope
I just did five days off of him coming into this.
joe rogan
Did you really?
doug stanhope
Quit everything for five days, except medicinal drinking.
Do a couple shots of whiskey, because at this point, can't quit cold turkey.
Very dangerous, deadly.
joe rogan
I understand.
Now, what was harder?
What does it feel like to take five days off of cigarettes?
doug stanhope
When I do it my way perfect fantastic because I No one can come around me if I don't have to do a phoner or write a thing write a book do when you write do you like to smoke?
That's the hardest thing of everything I do doing stand-up writing is that's where it's integral to the process chain smoking and Tap, tap, tap, smoke, tap, tap, tap, smoke, whiskey, drink, tap, tap, tap.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
Everything else I get over.
Writing was the only...
joe rogan
You know when I find, like, sometimes some of my best bits have been me drunk on an airplane.
doug stanhope
I have the exact opposite where I talk about I get off an airplane drunk and I have stacks of cocktail napkins.
I say, if it says Delta on the napkin, this joke sucks.
And they're not even jokes.
They're pontificating.
What about this and that?
Maybe twice in 20 years, I've gotten good bits off a drunk airplane.
joe rogan
Twice in 20 years is a good number, though.
If you could find one thing where you could do like 300 times, you could get 20 great bits.
Even two.
Think about how many days you spend trying to write to get two great bits.
doug stanhope
It's the amount of bad bits, though.
I'm embarrassed to have the napkin in my pocket.
Like, what the fuck does this even mean?
joe rogan
Do you have those saved?
Owen Smith has a great show he's doing where he has you pull out your old notebooks.
doug stanhope
Fucking cocksucker!
unidentified
Brian Hannigan told me, no, no, we're gonna make a show out of this!
joe rogan
Brian Hannigan, you lazy bitch.
You didn't even research whether or not Owen Smith has been doing it for a while.
doug stanhope
My first notebook where you have to go and read the shit you wrote in 1990 that you thought was brilliant.
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh no!
doug stanhope
We're trying to sell this as a show!
Don't tweet about it!
unidentified
Why does it have to be isolated to one individual?
joe rogan
How come you can't do it as well?
doug stanhope
See how he just shut the fuck up because he knows he's wrong?
unidentified
No, actually, Joe just made my point.
You weren't listening to him.
joe rogan
I don't think there's anything wrong with you going over your notebook, but going into other people's notebooks.
Then you're sort of...
Like, if you decide, like, hey, I'm Doug Stanhope, and I want to bring out my notebook and tell you how fucking terrible my 1993 jokes were.
doug stanhope
Oh, Owen Benjamin goes into other people's notebooks?
joe rogan
No, Owen Smith.
Not Owen Benjamin.
Owen Benjamin's upstate New York.
Owen Smith, L.A., hilarious comedian.
He goes into yours.
I had to bring out my shit.
I brought out some shit from 1990. I had some, like, 1991 notebooks.
They were terrible.
I had, like, orchestrated crowd work.
unidentified
Then you ask the crowd this, and they're like, yeah, we like fucking girls.
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, it was brutal.
It was so scorching.
doug stanhope
Oh, I want to be on that show since I created it, but my creator didn't let me create.
Feeding the flowers.
Owen Smith, good on you for doing it first.
joe rogan
How long ago did you guys come up with the idea?
doug stanhope
When everyone else was coming up with other things.
joe rogan
I did it about a year ago.
doug stanhope
A set list in the last three years.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did his thing within a year, and he already had it.
Like, he'd already been filming it.
doug stanhope
I am not...
Hey, comedy police that are civilians listening, don't...
I'm not saying he stole my idea.
No one thinks that.
joe rogan
Don't defend yourself.
doug stanhope
No, it's the listeners that think they are the comedy police.
joe rogan
Don't talk to dummies.
Just let them be dummies.
doug stanhope
Hate it.
Hey, so-and-so was doing your...
I saw so-and-so did your bit.
He was talking about porn, and you talk about porn.
Um, you fucking shut up.
Let us police ourselves, please.
unidentified
I was gonna register the bit, but I had to patch the tires for a road trip.
doug stanhope
You're going so Irish, which is better because he hates the Irish.
joe rogan
I was about to.
doug stanhope
I was about to fire.
Are we closing this podcast because I'm saving a piss?
Either I'm going to piss.
joe rogan
Let's let it go.
Slide that book over here.
doug stanhope
Oh, hang on.
Someone's going to do official work.
unidentified
First of all, what's important is diversity.
We'd like to have more diversity in this room.
doug stanhope
Diversity.
Diversity.
Diversity is what we're looking for.
We need more women on the podcast.
unidentified
Say the tour.
joe rogan
Go ahead.
Say the tour.
unidentified
Doug Stanhope, Australia, April 2018. He's going down under, but does he know that the world is flat?
And it'll never get there.
It's impossible.
So is that me heckling myself?
doug stanhope
Yes, you're heckling yourself.
Okay, Doug Stanhope, Australian April, he's going to be in Adelaide, Brisbane, Canberra, Melbourne, Perth, Sydney, and also will be...
Oh, don't tickle me.
joe rogan
If you come to the end of the rainbow, there'll be a bucket of gold for you, lad.
doug stanhope
You're so Irish-ing him, and it makes him even snappier.
Also, we're doing the Far East before that.
unidentified
We're also doing Hong Kong, Singapore, Ho Chi Minh, Sissy.
joe rogan
Please don't be racist.
I can't have this on my podcast.
Ho Chi Minh.
doug stanhope
God.
He's still a guy.
I think he's still over there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
doug stanhope
I think he does karaoke or something.
I don't know.
joe rogan
So, DougStanhope.com?
doug stanhope
Yeah.
Just go there, buy the book.
joe rogan
Here's the book, ladies and gentlemen.
doug stanhope
I really need the money.
joe rogan
This is not fame.
One of my all-time favorite humans, Douglas Stanhope, ladies and gentlemen.
Brian Hennigan, you know we love you.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
We fuck with you because you tolerate it.
You gotta fight back.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay?
You can't keep taking this from us.
This is not right.
It makes me feel bad.
We go after you and we team up on you.
And I'm like, please fire back, Mr. Hennigan.
doug stanhope
Somewhere a storm is brewing.
joe rogan
Your new nickname is Hennessy, though.
Accept it.
Accept it.
doug stanhope
You need to get you a sifter.
joe rogan
Everywhere you go.
unidentified
It's better than shenanigan or Heineken, which everyone thinks is hilarious.
joe rogan
Brian shenanigans!
I like that even better.
That's like the verbal equivalent of the Hawaiian shirt.
doug stanhope
You just gave us two we have to choose from.
unidentified
Brian shenanigans or Brian Heineken.
doug stanhope
No, he said his two he hates worse, so now we have to choose from the two he hates.
joe rogan
I like Hennessy because it makes him uncomfortable because it's associated with African Americans.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
So I like that better.
unidentified
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Oh, I didn't know that.
I'm from another land.
doug stanhope
We don't have.
joe rogan
Oh, I plead ignorance.
I didn't know nothing about your cuvasse, eh?
What?
Mad Dog 2020. Purple drank.
I thought that was a good dog with bad vision.
doug stanhope
Drank his past tense.
What's this purple drank?
unidentified
Wait, wait.
I happen to like Mickey's, as you know.
joe rogan
Do you drink orange soda and eat fried chicken around black people or no?
unidentified
I beg your pardon?
doug stanhope
Exactly.
He's never around black people.
We cloister him.
Is that a word?
Doug Stanhope.com.
joe rogan
Douglas is running away.
doug stanhope
Is it available right now?
I told you via text I was going to wear my brown print.
Yeah.
And I came in my pajamas.
An orange shirt.
I'm sorry.
It looks very comfortable.
I didn't dress up.
joe rogan
I like comfort.
This is not fame by Douglas Stanhope.
Forward by Drew Prinsky, MD. Dr. Drew wrote the forward.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Alright.
unidentified
Alright, alright.
And it's a great forward.
joe rogan
Was Dr. Phil busy?
doug stanhope
Ha!
joe rogan
Mr. Hennessy!
Always good to see you, my brother.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
joe rogan
Thank you for having me.
unidentified
Always great to be here.
joe rogan
You know we love you, right?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
And this is a very impressive facility.
joe rogan
Thank you, sir.
Alright, folks.
We'll be back tomorrow with the great and powerful Chris Stapleton.
One of my favorite musicians.
Tomorrow.
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