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Nov. 6, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - UFC Recap w/ Brendan Schaub
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brendan schaub
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joe rogan
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brendan schaub
You know what?
I'll see you later, man.
unidentified
Five, four, three, two, one.
joe rogan
Yee-haw!
And we're live.
brendan schaub
Yes!
joe rogan
Dude, what a fucking crazy weekend, huh?
brendan schaub
What the hell?
joe rogan
Watch those three title fights.
That was like...
It was really funny, because we were talking about this, and you were like, this is probably one of the best cards ever, but we have a high likelihood of all decisions.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Yeah.
Boy, was I wrong.
Goddamn, was I wrong.
I make some good picks, but every now and then, I looked at the matchups, I'm like, everyone's so close in competition and skill-wise.
I was like, we're going to get a lot of decisions, which I don't mind.
And then as we're watching, I'm glad I was wrong.
As we're watching, I'm like, holy shit.
Best UFC card ever.
joe rogan
I don't know what was the most surprising outcome, too.
It's like, Did you just crack yourself?
Did you just hit the antlers?
You alright?
brendan schaub
Jamie just ran.
joe rogan
I told you that was a bad idea to put that thing there.
Alright, we're going to put a red light.
We got an elk antler right over near where Jamie has to walk past.
brendan schaub
He's whacked his head.
joe rogan
It's the hat with the brim.
unidentified
It hasn't been there forever and I'm not there.
joe rogan
Spatial awareness.
You get used to the space.
brendan schaub
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
I think maybe one of the most impressive things or Confusing or unexpected was how fucking good GSP looked.
The dude's gone for four years, comes back, and immediately I see him moving around and popping the jab, and I'm like, Jesus Christ, he looks like GSP. Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
See, I wasn't that in love with GSP's performance.
joe rogan
You weren't?
brendan schaub
I thought he looked good.
I thought he looked heavy.
I didn't think he looked as, you know, obviously he put on some pounds.
joe rogan
He was thick.
brendan schaub
He was thick thick.
Like Three Musketeer thick.
I thought he put on some pounds and his cardio wasn't that great.
He had cardio for days before.
joe rogan
Yeah, he definitely was suffering a little bit because of that.
And also, it has to be a big factor four years off.
Just the nerves and all that jazz.
brendan schaub
Huge factor.
joe rogan
And the struggle to hold Bisping down.
Bisping's fucking hard.
And, you know, honestly, taking him down was one of the worst things that could have happened.
He got cut the fuck up from the top.
brendan schaub
Bisping didn't work down there.
And when I was worried if it went to decision, I thought, Bisping's actually winning.
Even though GSP got him down for that portion, hopefully the judges see that Bisping's doing the damage down there.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
brendan schaub
That should count in their eyes.
joe rogan
I agree.
I agree 100%.
The only time it's ever really counted, though, in a fight is Kevin Randleman versus Boss Rutten.
Remember?
Kevin Randleman took Boss Rutten down, but Boss Rutten was beating the shit out of him from the bottom, and Randleman didn't do anything, but a lot of people were super outraged after that decision.
That was a weird one, because most of the fight was spent with Boss on the bottom and Randleman on top.
brendan schaub
That's old school.
I think GSP obviously looked great past the test.
See, I always look what's next.
I didn't think...
I thought Bisping was super hesitant because, for this reason, they trained earlier, right?
They trained in 2008, 2006, so a while ago.
I guess GSP just kind of mopped the floor with them, like kind of did whatever they wanted.
So then I think GSP's camp and their thinking was, alright, middleweight's really not where we should be at, but Bisping's kind of easy picking for us.
We might as well go get the belt from him if we're going to do this big comeback.
So I think he thought it was a good matchup, and I think because they trained prior, that wasn't normal Bisping.
Bisping pushes the pace.
I think he was so worried about the takedown, rightfully so.
Bisping didn't look great to me either.
joe rogan
No, he looked very stiff.
brendan schaub
Super hesitant and stiff, and he looked like Father Time was like, yo man, tonight's your night.
joe rogan
I don't think it was a Father Time thing.
I think it was in the back of his mind.
He was very openly admitting that GSP dominated those training sessions they had in 2006. And he was saying, look, I'm much better than I was back then, which I'm sure he is.
You can only get so much better.
brendan schaub
It's also a mental thing.
Like, damn, when he did that and he's impossible to get off.
So I think he was very reserved.
But I just, I thought, again, I thought after four years, hell yeah, George looked good.
Did George look good enough to beat like a Whitaker or Yo Romero?
Probably not.
Not to hate on what's going on right now because of the epic night.
I just look at the real middleweights.
Yes.
Meaning Whitaker, Yoel, Luke Rockhold.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And with those cardio problems, I was like, this was a fun one.
And you're crazy if you think he's going to fight again at 85. That didn't happen.
joe rogan
I don't think so either.
brendan schaub
I can promise you that's not happening.
joe rogan
I think he drops right back down to 170. He's fighting Woodley next.
Yeah, when I was thinking about him fighting in Woodley's no fucking picnic.
brendan schaub
That's not a cakewalk.
joe rogan
That ain't a good time.
Match-up-wise, it's very tough for GSP. You know, Woodley's been dealing with a shoulder injury.
He hurt his shoulder pretty bad in that fight early in the Thompson fight.
And so what he does about that, that's what's up in the air.
If he chooses to have surgery, I believe he has, I don't know if he's talked about it, but I think he has a labrum tear.
So the question is what he decides to do about that.
brendan schaub
I heard him say about Colby coming to him.
We should talk about him.
He's killing me lately.
In a good way.
But he was saying, he goes, yeah, my shoulder's messed up, but it's good enough where I could whoop Colby's ass.
Now, is it good enough to whoop GSP? Probably not.
But Whitaker's out, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Whitaker's almost back.
brendan schaub
If they do another intern belt at Welterweight, I'm going to bust.
I'm going to freak out.
If there's more intern belts, I'm going to freak the fuck out.
joe rogan
Who would they do?
brendan schaub
Well, if Woodley has to do surgery, and then GSP's like, I'm not fighting.
joe rogan
Wonderboy versus Covington?
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
Or GSP versus someone down there.
joe rogan
GSP versus something where we get a lot of press.
Yep.
They think they got over a million pay-per-view by Saturday night.
brendan schaub
I hope so.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I hope so.
I thought it was going to do around 700s.
joe rogan
They might have got a million just from Canada.
They said Canada was tracking higher than the pay-per-view for Mayweather versus McGregor.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Canada, come on.
joe rogan
Canada's crazy for GSP, bro.
Love him some GSP. I mean, he won Athlete of the Year back when the UFC was not nearly as popular.
brendan schaub
It's true.
joe rogan
Pre-Ronda and pre-Conor, he won Athlete of the Year in Canada.
brendan schaub
Well, now, obviously, there's the Conor McGregor effect, but there's no one in the UFC that can go to Canada and sell out the Bell Center, the Giant Toronto.
Now he can do that.
His next fight, he can go up there and do that.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
His next fight, now he's the middleweight champion in the world?
Holy shit!
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
You know in his contract, and Dana said this, but contracts are like pinky swears in the UFC. They're kind of like, alright, whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
I think...
You know, in his contract, and he said this, and it's in his contract, he has to defend for the middleweight title.
But, again, I don't think it's going to happen.
Because you hear Freddie Roach talked about how 85's not where he wants to be at.
When they ask him what's next.
And also, remember, all this adds up.
It's easy to figure out.
You don't have to be fucking Sherlock Holmes.
Whitaker was cage-side.
If that fight was next, the way you rip your promo is bring Whitaker into the cage.
They're like, nah, son, you're good.
You sit there.
You ain't coming in here.
We don't need that right now.
Sober October's over.
It's definitely over.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Whitaker, I'm sure, would want that fight.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, he'd want that fight.
joe rogan
I don't think GSP was ever really considering it.
brendan schaub
No, it's just not a possibility.
joe rogan
Woodley's next.
With Woodley injured, here's the real crazy question.
If Conor defends against Tony, and that's a big fight...
brendan schaub
Which I heard is in March.
That's the rumors.
unidentified
What do you think about GSP versus Connor?
brendan schaub
I know, right?
unidentified
I'm whispering because it's crazy.
brendan schaub
A lot of things have to happen in order for that to line up.
So Conor would have to beat Tony, which I think he's down to do.
joe rogan
He was a gorilla.
When I interviewed him at the weigh-ins and I put my arm on him, I was like, what in the fuck, dude?
He's giant now!
brendan schaub
It's too much.
It was just too much.
It's huge.
joe rogan
He's way bigger.
He looked like 200-plus pounds when he got into the outside.
brendan schaub
His frame's so much bigger than Conor.
But just the magnitude of that fight they do at a catch weight, that's a super fight.
When we're talking about super fights, No, that's a motherfucking super fight.
joe rogan
It would have to be at 170. But if they did do it at 170. Conor would have to get through Tony.
brendan schaub
GSP's going to have to beat Woodley, and then he'd get an end of next year.
There's a lot that has to line up.
That's a big if.
joe rogan
Beating Woodley's a giant if.
brendan schaub
But even if he doesn't, it's still a super fight, right?
joe rogan
If he loses by devastating knockout, it's not a super fight.
You're probably not going to see GSP again.
The thing about Woodley is, if Woodley wins, you're probably going to the hospital.
brendan schaub
Unless your name's Wonderboy, and then you're probably going to sleep on the couch as a fan.
joe rogan
Well, Wonderboy fight at least went to decision, but there was moments in that fight where it looked like Wonderboy was going out.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, Woodley puts people...
Excuse me.
Woodley puts people to sleep.
I mean, he hits fucking hard.
But here's the question.
Like, how much damage has been done to his shoulder?
I mean, it's a labrum tear, whatever sort of a tear it is.
Can it be fixed with stem cells?
Can it be fixed with rehab?
Or is it damaged to the point where he's going to need surgery?
Because if he does, he's likely out a year.
That's what Kane had.
Kane had labrum surgery.
He was out for a year.
brendan schaub
It's a rough one, too, to come back from.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's not an easy road back.
Excuse me.
If you're someone who has that wild punching style, like Woodley, think about how much fucking torque that guy puts in his punches.
And he might be the heaviest hitter in the history of the 170-pound division.
You watch that fight with Josh Koscheck, or watch that fight with Jay Heron, dude, he hits...
brendan schaub
When Anthony Johnson was cutting to 70, he begs to differ.
joe rogan
That's different at all.
brendan schaub
He had no business being down there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But I hear you.
Especially right now.
joe rogan
You know, he's talking about coming back as a heavyweight.
brendan schaub
I know.
Which is good, because that division needs him.
joe rogan
It does need him, but why is he...
I don't get it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't get it either.
joe rogan
He said he didn't want to fight anymore.
He's like, he's done.
brendan schaub
Well, you know, he thought he was done.
He thought that's the life he wants.
Then when you're there, you're like, oh, this sucks.
Oh, wait, I feel actually pretty good.
I can go to heavyweight and not cut all that weight.
And the division's slim.
joe rogan
But how much weight is he really cutting at 205?
brendan schaub
Probably 30 pounds.
joe rogan
You think he walks around at 235?
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
unidentified
That boy is so crazy.
brendan schaub
He's a freak, man.
joe rogan
That's so much weight.
brendan schaub
So much weight.
He's an absolute freak.
Someone made a good point.
It was either you or DC. By the way, my MVP, everyone tore it up at Mass Square Garden.
DC is stealing my heart, man, as a commentator.
That motherfucker is good.
He's bringing some personality to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's himself.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
He's himself.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
Like in Brazil, you got a little too excited in the cage, but he's great, man.
joe rogan
Dillashaw!
Killashaw!
Thrillashaw!
Yeah, he's great.
brendan schaub
He's like, I can't talk right now.
I'm so nervous.
I love that.
joe rogan
When Rose won and he starts yelling out, fuck Rose!
brendan schaub
Yes, I want that.
joe rogan
I want that too.
brendan schaub
That's what I want.
Everyone doing it, take notes.
Be yourself.
DC's not being fake.
He's living in the moment.
joe rogan
DC is fucking hilarious.
DC has one of the best personalities ever.
When you're hanging around him, like outside of commentary, outside of the fight, people don't know him.
And it's a goddamn shame that people boo him.
They should love that guy.
brendan schaub
They should love him.
joe rogan
His personality is amazing.
So when he's himself, that himself is great.
unidentified
Like me and him are always...
joe rogan
Excuse me.
Goddamn weed.
Me and him are always laughing and slapping each other in the back.
He's awesome.
Crying, laughing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's the best, man.
brendan schaub
He grew up in locker room, so he's going to know that chitchat.
You know what I'm saying?
He knows the vibe.
It's a funny dude.
joe rogan
And he's smart.
He knows a shitload about wrestling, too.
What an asset he is whenever there's some sort of a takedown attempt or when someone's doing something wrong and he can explain it.
brendan schaub
That's the future, man.
And he's good at it and wants to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's great, man.
He's great.
But the Thug Rose one was my favorite.
brendan schaub
He's hilarious.
joe rogan
He's just being himself.
brendan schaub
But it was either him or you that made the point of, you know, you really got to give it up to Woodley for what he did to Wonderboy when you see what Wonderboy did to Masvidal.
joe rogan
What Wonderboy does to everybody.
brendan schaub
Everybody.
joe rogan
This is the reason why I felt it was unfair to criticize Woodley.
Because if I was in Woodley's Corner, I would have told him to fight the exact same fight.
Like, people have said to me after the commentary, like, why didn't you say that that fight was boring?
I go, because it wasn't boring.
It wasn't boring to me while it was happening.
It might be boring if you knew what happened and you had to watch the four rounds before.
If you're not really into tactics or trying to figure out what's happening.
But to me, there's just dire consequences to any mistake you make against Woodley.
And there's dire consequences against Wonderboy.
Wonderboy can knock you out.
brendan schaub
I think with Woodley and the Wonderboy battle, I think they're just bad dance partners, but I also think...
You make one mistake against Wonderboy, especially Woodley being shorter, you're in a lot of fucking trouble.
He knew that.
Now, to me, the fight wasn't great.
They weren't great.
That last one wasn't great, but there were times when it was good.
But I think the way Woodley dealt with it and kind of figured it out, and you said this on the commentary on the broadcast, where that might be the only way to beat Wonderboy.
That's it.
It's not going to be an exciting fight.
It's not going to be great.
And Woodley figured that out.
Now, when you go to the Maya fight, it's like, all right, goddammit.
You know, when you go over there, then it's another thing.
joe rogan
But again, with the Maya fight though, if he did hurt his shoulder early in the fight, think about dealing with a guy who was one of the best fucking rappers ever.
And being in a position where you can't use one of your arms right.
You almost have to fight the way he fought against Maya.
brendan schaub
You don't want to go to the ground.
unidentified
And people are like, oh, you're a fucking Tyrone Woodley apologist.
joe rogan
You're a Tyrone Woodley lover.
brendan schaub
No, it is what it is.
You're a ball rider.
unidentified
You're a ball rider.
brendan schaub
I think it just lined up for him where it's like, this is the monster you're dealing with.
Then you get the shoulder.
He needs a guy like Colby.
joe rogan
Yes, I agree.
brendan schaub
Colby Compton, and I sent you a screenshot of his.
I woke up to this Twitter where Colby.
joe rogan
His tweet is John Jones.
See if you can find him.
brendan schaub
I told Kobe, this is what I was saying on my show, I was saying, you know, people say, hey man, let's not cross the line.
I went, Kobe, you listen to me right now.
You find that line, you fucking run through it.
Whatever you're doing is working, man.
Don't get racist, but run through that fucking line.
And he's doing it.
joe rogan
From Brazil on, his fucking social media presence has gone through the roof.
What people think of him has gone through the roof.
More people are talking about him now than ever before.
brendan schaub
He's ranked number three.
He's number three in the world.
They're talking about a title shot.
joe rogan
Well, he did beat the shit out of Damien Maia.
brendan schaub
He beat the breaks out of Damien Maia.
unidentified
In Brazil.
joe rogan
In Brazil.
Wore his ass out.
And it was only a three-round fight.
I mean, who knows if it was a five-round fight.
He might have got to stop it.
brendan schaub
He would have stopped him, yeah.
joe rogan
Very well might have.
brendan schaub
Yeah, good chance.
joe rogan
He's beaten the shit out of him.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Kobe is...
He's young.
He's brash.
He's fucking tough as shit.
Look at this.
John Jones says to George St. Pierre, Hey, George St. Pierre, you've always been one of my biggest inspirations.
Show the world how great you can be tonight, praying for you.
Colby Covington says, Shut up, loser!
You're the biggest fuck-up in the history of sports.
unidentified
Why is he going so hard in the paint at John Jones?
joe rogan
He doesn't care, man.
brendan schaub
He doesn't care.
But it's working because I like what Rose says.
Rose, I thought, was the biggest MVP of the night.
But I like what Rose says.
She's like, man, I'm sick of this fight culture where guys are just going super hard in the paint talking shit and not being themselves.
Like, I'm a good person.
Let's be nice to each other.
I'm like, Kelly, I love that shit, Rose.
And then I open up my Twitter.
See, Colby, I'm like, but then that also makes sense.
Like, I have this angel, you know what I'm saying?
A demon on my shoulder like, yeah, Colby.
No, Rose, this is nice, you know?
joe rogan
It all makes sense.
Look, it's exciting.
The shit talking is exciting.
Yeah, I like when they make up afterwards.
That's what I'm happy.
They talk plenty of shit, they fight, and then they make up.
brendan schaub
TJ and Cody really didn't.
They're like, I respect you, and then Cody's like, yeah, I respect them, but everything I said was true.
Fuck that guy.
joe rogan
Well, when TJ got in his face right after the stoppage and was like touching his face.
brendan schaub
That's what you get though!
joe rogan
Screaming at him.
brendan schaub
When you're dealing with a fight of that magnitude and there's that much high emotion and passion, there's going to be a little bit of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I never saw anybody do that before.
I never saw anybody win by stoppage.
And then when the guy gets up just fucking out of it, TJ's in his face screaming at the top of his lungs with his mouth touching his face like he was kissing him.
brendan schaub
Like he was a baby bird.
joe rogan
And he was like on his tippy toes.
brendan schaub
It's a great picture.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a fucking amazing picture.
brendan schaub
But again, Cody had all that ammunition.
The week of, like, I didn't knock you out, drops the video.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
joe rogan
I think one of the worst things that happened for Cody is that he got that knockdown.
brendan schaub
Because he thought he could do it again.
Wait, you're saying in practice or in the first round?
joe rogan
No, no, no, in the fight.
In the first round.
Look at that.
That is insane.
brendan schaub
I mean, they are lip to lip.
joe rogan
Yeah, lip to lip.
They're kissing.
Essentially kissing.
Cody is completely out of it, right?
He just got knocked out cold.
I wasn't sure if he was out cold.
But if you watch the stoppage, he stops moving.
He got hit a bunch of times.
brendan schaub
It was a good stoppage.
joe rogan
He came right back.
God, I should stop coughing, right?
brendan schaub
I love both those guys, man.
joe rogan
He came right back.
He got back up pretty quickly, but I think that's conditioning and just realizing that he came too.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
unidentified
Look at TJ. Look how shredded TJ is.
joe rogan
How the fuck is he going to cut 10 more pounds to go down and fight Mighty Mouse?
brendan schaub
Do they do it at catch weight?
Do the belts really fucking matter?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
They're gonna do it at 125. When I talk to TJ, he swears he can make it.
He goes all day, easily.
joe rogan
He might be able to.
brendan schaub
Hey, Mighty Mouse, who else are you gonna fight?
joe rogan
Well, if he gets Mike Dolce behind him or George Lockhart or one of those weight-cutting specialists...
brendan schaub
TJ, here he has someone.
joe rogan
He does?
brendan schaub
He has some new guy who's a monster.
That's why he looks like that right now.
He has some new guy that he moved to California for.
joe rogan
If you get a guy who's a weight-cutting expert...
I bet he could probably do it.
brendan schaub
Oh, he'll do it for sure.
He wanted to do it originally.
He was already making the cut when he thought it was going to happen.
He goes, it's no problem for me.
joe rogan
He's very disappointed in that fight.
And I see his point, but I also see Mighty Mouse's point.
Mighty Mouse's point is, look, what if TJ doesn't make the cut, and then I lose the fight?
What if he doesn't make the weight, and then I lose the fight to him?
He's like, that's a big deal.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and I don't set the record.
joe rogan
Yeah, he wanted to set the record.
The record was giant to him.
He wanted to set the record in his weight class.
So he said, look, I have one requirement.
Let TJ win a fight at 125. Let him fight at 125. Let him win.
And then I'll have him come over.
brendan schaub
Look at him.
unidentified
Jacked.
joe rogan
That's after he won.
That's real, too, man.
I mean, that's some raw shit.
brendan schaub
That's some raw emotion.
They're going to fight three more times.
There's so much shit talking going on, and it was so personal for these two.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Boy, it looked bad when he got clipped.
He got clipped at the end of the first round, and it looks like, wow, Colby has a piston for a right hand.
Unbelievable speed.
But then he came back real quick.
Like, at the beginning of the second round, he looked fine.
brendan schaub
He looked amazing.
joe rogan
He looked fine.
Like, didn't look like anything was wrong with him.
And he started throwing a lot more kicks.
brendan schaub
And did you see what TJ said?
Because they were like, oh, you're going to give Cody immediate rematch?
He goes, hell no.
Look at the fire I have to walk through to get back here.
He goes, it doesn't work like that.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
He goes, it does not work like that.
I have to fight, what, three guys?
I have to wait over a year?
Fight three monsters?
joe rogan
He had to fight Lineker.
brendan schaub
Yeah!
joe rogan
By the way, he fucking neutralized Lineker, too.
That was one of the more, in my opinion, one of the more fascinating fights because I don't think there's another guy in the division that would have neutralized Lineker in that way and not getting hit.
brendan schaub
Agree.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Maybe Dominic?
Maybe Dominic?
But the thing about TJ versus Dominic is TJ's more kick-oriented.
Mm-hmm.
Not that Dominic doesn't have kicks, but I think TJ has more flexibility.
He's more loose on the outside.
TJ wins by head kick.
He head kicks guys.
He will do all of the above.
He doesn't have, in any way, a limited arsenal.
brendan schaub
I don't know what they're going to do next, but, you know, Dominic vs.
Jimmy Rivera is a tough fight for Dom.
unidentified
Tough fucking fight.
brendan schaub
To me, I don't know what it is, but Jimmy Rivera is a fucking nightmare for people.
unidentified
He's a tank.
brendan schaub
He's undefeated.
He kind of mopped the floor with Uri Faber.
Like, he's no joke, man.
He's flying under the radar, but...
joe rogan
Yeah, he is.
brendan schaub
And his head is twice as big as either one of us.
joe rogan
He's a tank.
brendan schaub
At that weight class.
joe rogan
And his low kick, that low kick that everyone's doing, that below the calf kick or the calf kick, god damn, that is a debilitating kick.
brendan schaub
That dude's my dark horse.
No one's really talking about him.
joe rogan
I'm like, God, he's a tiger shulman guy.
You know, when I was in the martial arts in New York and like that area, tiger shulman had like a whole chain of karate schools.
And I'm sure they did competitions and stuff, I'm pretty sure.
But no one ever would have thought they would become a powerhouse for MMA. But they've had quite a few really talented fighters come out of there.
Well, they had that kid with the green hair.
The fuck's his name?
Bantamweight?
Gentleman?
brendan schaub
Oh, I know what you're fucking talking about.
joe rogan
God, I like that kid.
I can't remember his name.
I do, too.
God damn it.
He stopped fighting.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did.
He kind of just dipped out, right?
He was like, I'm out.
joe rogan
They have that kid...
This is going to be a lot of they have that kid that did this.
I can't remember this either.
brendan schaub
Sorry to put you on the spot.
Oh yeah?
Where at?
joe rogan
One of his other guys had this crazy choke that we had to go over in the gym and try to figure out...
Yes.
Luis Gardino.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Sorry, Luis.
Luis Gardino.
brendan schaub
He was one of my faves, though.
joe rogan
Tough dude.
I believe he's a Tiger Showman guy, I'm pretty sure.
And then there's been a few other guys, too.
brendan schaub
The only one who's going to get a rematch on the card is Ioana.
She deserves it.
After defending the title that many times, you get murked in that first round.
I think that qualifies for an immediate rematch.
joe rogan
Well, I think that's where the big money is, for sure.
I mean, people are going to want to see that.
That's a big fight.
Because when Ioana walked out, dude, the pop from the audience was immense.
brendan schaub
She's finally become, like, this star that they've been putting all this promotion into her.
She's winning fights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
She's kind of thriving in it, almost a little too much, which is one of the reasons I think she lost.
Yeah.
A little bit of the Ronda syndrome there, a little bit.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know if it's that, but, you know, she was definitely doing a lot of press.
Yeah.
You're like, there's a fucking tremendous amount of pressure.
But I'll tell you what, dude.
When she was talking to the camera, she was talking to Rose, and she's like, the boogie woman coming for you.
The boogie woman coming for you.
I got fucking nervous.
unidentified
Were you scared?
joe rogan
I was nervous.
brendan schaub
I was legitimately nervous.
People thought it was the greatest promo of all time.
I was like, boogie woman?
unidentified
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
I was like, what the fuck is that?
joe rogan
When you see her looking at Rose in her eyes, like staring into her soul, and she's talking all kinds of crazy shit, I'm going to fuck you up.
I'm going to hurt you.
And Rose is saying the Lord's Prayer.
brendan schaub
It's some demonic shit.
joe rogan
I was like, what?
I asked Rose.
I go, what are you saying?
She's like, I was saying the Lord's Prayer.
And she didn't even look at anybody.
She wouldn't look at me.
I was like, alright.
I'm like, wow, this is for real.
It would be easy to say, in retrospect, I knew then something special was going to happen.
brendan schaub
Hell no!
I was like, Rose need to see a psychiatrist.
When I saw that weigh in, I'm like, we need to get Rose some help ASAP. I've known Rose forever.
I'm like, you know what, we need some professional help.
joe rogan
But after the fact, knowing the result that Rose won by knockout, it makes it even all the more profound.
brendan schaub
Now you're going to see motherfuckers just reciting prayers non-stop.
joe rogan
Look, you want to talk about, I hope the UFC realizes, and I think they do, that's a fucking star.
unidentified
Rose?
joe rogan
That's a real star.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, a real star.
brendan schaub
She has the look, she has the skills.
joe rogan
She's 25 years old, she's got the look, she shaves her head, she's a beautiful person.
brendan schaub
Stranger thing look is so in right now.
unidentified
It's so in!
brendan schaub
That 11 look is so in.
joe rogan
She's 12. And she's like a genuinely good person.
Like when she was talking after the fight, she's like, just be nice to each other.
brendan schaub
That's real.
joe rogan
That's coming from her.
brendan schaub
Do the fans gravitate towards that nice person?
joe rogan
We do.
When you look like her and you weigh 115 pounds, you're a woman and you fuck up the boogie woman?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Maybe, yeah.
joe rogan
I hope so.
I guarantee you, man, if she doesn't become as big a star as any other woman in MMA, I would be stunned.
Damn!
I would be stunned.
brendan schaub
I like that prediction.
Because she's a good person, man.
She's worked hard.
joe rogan
Misha Tate got some star out of it.
Ronda clearly got the biggest, right?
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Ronda got the biggest by far.
She was the biggest as far as people paying attention.
brendan schaub
It was timing, her opponents.
joe rogan
Everything.
It was her insane domination.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Opponents just weren't on her level until they were.
Yeah.
So until she fought Holly, they weren't really on her level.
And she also had this new thing, which was the female ass kicker.
This thing that didn't exist before.
So in that way, like one of the most unique athletes ever.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Besides Layla Ali and who's the coal miner's daughter?
Christy Martin.
Remember Christy Martin?
From back in the old Tyson fights.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She'd be fighting on the undercard.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
The coal miner's daughter, remember that?
brendan schaub
For sure, but they're pioneers, but it's different.
joe rogan
Yeah, not that much.
Like, Layla Ali got a few people paying attention to her.
brendan schaub
You better be able to box your dad's Muhammad Ali, for God's sake.
unidentified
I know!
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
I mean, that's a shoo-in.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
brendan schaub
So, like, being George Lucas's daughter.
Like, you're gonna be, you know, in Star Wars for fuck's sake.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But it just never hit the levels that it hit with Ronda, right?
But I think that it's possible that Rose could be the biggest star in MMA today.
I really think so.
I don't think anyone's ever going to be a Ronda because that was the first one.
It was a crazy thing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I agree.
joe rogan
But Rose could be gigantic.
I mean, who knows if she could be as big as Ronda, but she could be gigantic.
I really think so.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I like that she's true to herself.
joe rogan
She's fucking wild too, dude.
She does wild shit.
She throws up flying arm bars.
I mean, she does wild shit.
That fucking karate hottie fight when she head kicked her and then choked her out.
Dude, she's a little savage.
She gets on your back.
brendan schaub
That division is kind of stacked, though.
Like, you want to went through a lot of people, but for Rose, there's a lot of tough competition.
joe rogan
There's a very tough competition.
There's tough competition standing up, too.
There's a lot of good strikers in that division.
brendan schaub
Best case scenario, though, especially for the UFC and Rose, because Rose is my favorite fan in that division, coming from Denver, but...
That division, for her to defend it and build a star like they had in Ioana, that's when you get a star.
But if that belt's circulating, the public doesn't gravitate towards that.
We don't like that.
joe rogan
And she's likely going to have to fight Carolina, who went five hard rounds with Ioana and three rounds with her.
Was it three or five rounds with her when she won the decision?
brendan schaub
Three, right?
joe rogan
I think it was three.
brendan schaub
It was Jessica Andrade.
joe rogan
Jessica Andrade is a monster.
brendan schaub
Her last fight was scary.
Claudia Gadeja?
joe rogan
Jessica Andrade beat the shit out of Claudia Gadeja.
brendan schaub
She beat the breaks off Claudia.
joe rogan
Beat the shit out of her.
brendan schaub
That was tough to watch.
joe rogan
The manhandling.
unidentified
No offense.
joe rogan
Woolman handling.
She Woolman handled her.
brendan schaub
Strong-armed Claudia.
joe rogan
She smashed.
She Hulk smashed.
brendan schaub
She straight up Hulk smashed her.
joe rogan
She straight up Hulk smashed her.
brendan schaub
Yeah, straight up.
unidentified
She really did.
brendan schaub
I was like, Jesus Christ, man.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
I haven't seen an ass whooping like that since Cyborg got a hold of some bitch.
joe rogan
Didn't we watch that one live?
Didn't we do a fight companion for that?
Did we?
brendan schaub
I don't think we did.
Because I'm a huge Claudia fan.
I think she's so hot.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's very pretty.
brendan schaub
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
She's taking a break, though.
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
The body only has so many wars in it.
brendan schaub
That's what she's cutting that weight.
joe rogan
That was a lot of people were talking about with Ioana.
They were thinking about Ioana.
brendan schaub
After the fact, though.
joe rogan
But before the fact, before the fact, there was some discussion.
We were talking about, look, I didn't think that Rose was going to do that.
brendan schaub
Fuck no.
Did I bet on it?
Yeah, I did.
unidentified
Ah!
Yeah, I did.
joe rogan
Did you?
brendan schaub
You bet on Rose?
That's a good bet.
Well, she's such a big underdog.
joe rogan
Four to one?
brendan schaub
Shit, she was plus, I think I got it plus 500. I posted it, whatever it was.
I put $500 on her.
I forget how much, two grams.
joe rogan
That's nice.
brendan schaub
Yeah, just because Rose, she has that X factor where she just explodes.
joe rogan
She's wild.
brendan schaub
For a female fighter, yeah, she's wild, but it's hard to train for.
joe rogan
And you know, at the beginning of the fight, you know, Ioana, she had done nothing to Ioana.
All Ioana would get in her face.
She'd put her fist out, touch her fist with her face.
You know, Ioana was really trying to get in her head.
And the whole time, Roy was going, Oh, Father, who are out in heaven?
brendan schaub
Some scary shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was scary shit.
Actual face down came face down when they're standing in front of each other and they're about to fight you want us talking all the crazy shit and she got close to her Rose pushed her away.
She's like bitch to get the fuck out of here.
brendan schaub
Get out of here.
joe rogan
And that's and that's when he that's when he got done.
brendan schaub
She did work.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
I don't think you want to landed a punch.
joe rogan
She she let like some kicks She like but Rose open strong with a leg kick and I was like, oh Jesus and then she threw that leap in hook Trevor Whitman is a bad motherfucker Well, when you have Trevor Whitman, yeah, that's who I started with.
He's a phenomenal, phenomenal striking coach.
brendan schaub
If you give him a focus on one fighter, he's a master.
Well, he has Justin Gaethje, he has Rose, he has Carwin, Nate Markart.
joe rogan
Dude, come on.
brendan schaub
GSP used to fly down to Denver just to work on his jab.
joe rogan
Just Gaethje training now with, think about this fight that he's got with Eddie Alvarez, training now for Eddie Alvarez.
Gaethje is, what is his fucking record?
It's something insane.
brendan schaub
20-0 or something like that?
joe rogan
G-A-T-H. You know how to spell his name?
He's got an insane record.
brendan schaub
He's been mopping the floor with those sea level fighters in the World Series, but still it's fun.
joe rogan
But still, the Michael Johnson fight.
brendan schaub
18-0, there you go.
joe rogan
18-0.
Look at that.
One submission, two decisions, 15 knockouts.
Goddamn!
brendan schaub
I know Trevor.
When Gaethje fights, sometimes technique goes out the window.
joe rogan
He goes, fuck it.
Dude, he's a fucking animal.
brendan schaub
Which is why people love him.
joe rogan
He's wild as shit.
That Michael Johnson fight showed that.
Michael Johnson hurt him.
You know?
Tagged him hard.
And he came back and smashed him.
brendan schaub
That Eddie Alvarez fight is a great fight.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it's a great fight.
brendan schaub
Because people forget, but Justin Gaethje, his background is wrestling.
He was an amazing wrestler at the University of Northern Colorado.
Freak.
Athletic freak.
Vision is awful, too.
He squints.
He has had classes all the time.
I'm like, bro, what the fuck, man?
joe rogan
Can you get that fixed?
brendan schaub
I don't think you can get LASIK and fight.
The commissioners don't let you.
joe rogan
They don't let you do LASIK, but you could do the other kind.
brendan schaub
PR.
No, no.
I almost said PDK, like a Porsche stick chip.
joe rogan
There's two different kinds.
brendan schaub
PRK, something like that.
joe rogan
The other kind, where they use a scalpel.
The one that they use a scalpel, apparently they can do.
brendan schaub
That's the Russian shit.
That's what I had done, I think.
joe rogan
Did you?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was wrong with your vision?
brendan schaub
I had to have contacts and glasses.
joe rogan
I've seen guys fight with those, and they lose a contact, and they drop it, and then they've got to keep fighting, and now you're like...
brendan schaub
One eye.
joe rogan
One eyes, kid.
How can you fight with soft contacts in your eyeballs?
That is crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I got LASIK after I was playing a lacrosse game, and I was zoning out, and I was in Denver, and it was cold, and my contact froze.
And they're like, you're in!
I was like, now?
I was like, oh, fuck.
And then someone hit me, and it shattered in my eye.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
You had a hard contact?
brendan schaub
Yeah, a hard one.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Would you get hit with a ball or a stick?
brendan schaub
I think some dude just lit me up or something and my fucking contact fucking shredded.
And I was like, I need to...
I'm playing, you know, sports here, man.
I can't have fucking contacts.
joe rogan
Dad used to always freak me out about glasses.
Like, if someone got punched with glasses on and the glass went into their eye, I was like...
brendan schaub
I mean, well, they used to have those thick-ass, remember those thick-ass athletic ones?
My poor brother used to wear those.
It was Kurt Rambis or some shit.
joe rogan
Even those, though, what if those things break?
brendan schaub
They're so fucking thick.
They're what, like, the president's windows are made of.
joe rogan
You can make them, oh, you can make it out of a plexiglass, too, right?
unidentified
Yeah, that's what they were.
joe rogan
It doesn't necessarily have to be glass.
brendan schaub
It wasn't glass.
It was like a thick, thick plastic.
joe rogan
So it really can't break.
brendan schaub
Yeah, super nerdy.
No chicks when you wear that thing.
joe rogan
Well, it's funny to me when basketball players get a broken nose or something like that, and then forever they have this fucking mask on.
brendan schaub
Too much, right?
Yeah, too much.
It's hilarious!
joe rogan
It's because of what we see.
brendan schaub
They wear it for the next few weeks, too.
joe rogan
Well, what's crazy is, like this dude.
brendan schaub
Oh, come on, LeBron.
Carbon fiber, too?
joe rogan
I love it.
LeBron James had one of those?
jamie vernon
Yeah, a lot of people have had it.
joe rogan
But did LeBron wear it because of an injury?
Or did he wear it just to be a beast?
brendan schaub
No, you can't wear that shit to be a beast.
unidentified
Let me see that.
joe rogan
Give me a close-up on that.
brendan schaub
It does look kind of...
joe rogan
That's insane!
brendan schaub
That's carbon fiber.
joe rogan
Yo, I love it.
brendan schaub
It does look pretty gangster.
joe rogan
I want to wear one right now.
I want to wear one just before I go out.
In case the shit goes down.
The nose is such a terrible design.
I know you had your nose fixed after the Crow Cop fight.
brendan schaub
Oh, God.
joe rogan
But I just see so many people get their nose smashed.
Like, they had a close-up of Cowboys.
Oh, Kobe had one too, huh?
jamie vernon
Almost everyone's had one.
joe rogan
Because they all hurt their nose?
brendan schaub
Kobe looks like Zorro there.
It's pretty badass.
joe rogan
It does look pretty badass, but seriously.
brendan schaub
I want one too, though.
joe rogan
It's some bitch-ass shit.
If you think about all the stuff that fighters go through.
brendan schaub
Yeah, come on.
joe rogan
Get out of here, man.
brendan schaub
Cody's was rough.
unidentified
Cowboys.
joe rogan
Cowboys is rough.
Darren Till caught him with that elbow, that fucking snapping down elbow.
I know we did the fight companion for that one.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
I told you, dude, Vinny Shorman would not stop raving about Darren Till.
He would not stop raving before the fight.
And Shorman knows his shit.
He was like, mate, you've never seen anything like it.
unidentified
He's a freak.
joe rogan
The kid's going to be a champion.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Most people think from Liverpool.
He doesn't have a fight lined up, but I'm surprised.
joe rogan
He wants to fight Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
I've watched the shit out of that.
joe rogan
I've watched the shit out of that.
brendan schaub
You know how I went at mine?
Till vs.
Colby.
unidentified
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
Let these young lions kill each other.
What?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, why not?
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you're a fan of high-level striking, you tell me Wonderboy versus Darren Till wouldn't be insane?
brendan schaub
I'd watch it all goddamn day.
I'd watch the shit out of that fight.
unidentified
If I'm Wonderboy, though, I'm like, I'm not taking that fucking monster.
brendan schaub
What is he, seven?
No, man.
I just beat Masvidal.
unidentified
He's huge.
brendan schaub
He's enormous.
joe rogan
Darren Till's a big welterweight.
brendan schaub
Ain't no one trying to fight him.
unidentified
He's big.
brendan schaub
The only guy who wants to fight him, what's that guy?
joe rogan
Mike Perry.
Mike Platinum Perry.
brendan schaub
Mike Perry wants to fight him, but he has a huge fight coming up.
joe rogan
He's fighting Ponzinobio.
You gotta concentrate on Ponzinobio.
brendan schaub
Definitely gotta concentrate on Ponzinobio.
How about your boy Johnny Hendricks?
Was like, I figure it out.
I'm going down to Jackson's.
Let me try this out.
That ain't the answer, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, he fought the fucking Eraser, dude.
That guy's scary.
Even post-USADA scary.
Hold up.
Hold up.
brendan schaub
Eraser, listen to me right now.
That golden snitch is good.
I don't know what Aldo did all these years, but you figure it out.
You better figure it out.
I looked at his body.
I thought, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Dude, he's so jacked.
brendan schaub
He's jacked in shape.
Might be the best looking dude in the UFC. Maybe the best looking dude on the planet.
joe rogan
He's right up there.
brendan schaub
Right?
I didn't want to come off as gay.
joe rogan
With his shirt off in particular.
brendan schaub
Dude, that's not even a good picture.
He's too aggressive there.
But when we were doing the post-fight showdown, I'm like, I bet he slangs all the ring card girls if he wanted to.
As he was talking, I'm like, this dude is just slanging dick out there.
joe rogan
Look at it right there.
Dude, when he was standing next to Johnny Hendricks at the weigh-ins, I was like, no, Johnny.
You are not a middleweight.
This is a middleweight.
This is a big middleweight.
Look how much bigger he is than Johnny.
brendan schaub
And sh-shredged.
Sh-sh-sh-shredded.
joe rogan
And the fight was basically an assault.
It was an assault.
You would never believe that Johnny Hendricks was a former world champion if you saw the way the Eraser beat the shit out of him.
I mean, he just beat the shit out of him.
Johnny fired back.
I mean, he's tough.
He tried, threw some leg kicks, threw some punches, but he was just getting fucking destroyed and just walked down and smashed, kicked to the body over and over again.
He was wincing after the first kick to the body.
brendan schaub
I know, man!
joe rogan
The second kick to the body he got hit with, you see him wincing, and here was when he clipped Johnny Hendricks, I mean, it was no contest.
brendan schaub
Unfortunately for Johnny in that fight, if you weren't a fan, just looked at him like, oh, that guy got out of the crowd to fight this dime piece.
Like, look at that.
Oh, this guy who likes to drink beer is fighting this dime piece Brazilian.
He might be the best-looking Brazilian of all time, by the way.
joe rogan
Johnny is just not the same guy.
He's just not the same guy.
And you could speculate all day as to the reasons why.
unidentified
There's nothing wrong with that.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
I think sometimes people hate on guys for what they've done lately, but for Johnny Hendricks, man, you've had a great career, brother.
unidentified
I love Johnny.
joe rogan
I know, but it's just hard for me to watch him in a weight class above where he should be because he doesn't want to watch his diet.
brendan schaub
I think it's a number of things, but, you know, I just, man, there's nothing to hang your head on.
You're a world champion, man.
You know, a lot of people think you beat GSP. Like, you've had a great fucking career, man.
joe rogan
A lot of people think you won that fight.
A lot of people think.
There's a good argument to that, too.
You could really have a real, I mean, if you were just objective, you didn't have a dog in the fight, you could have a real interesting conversation about who won that fight.
brendan schaub
There's an argument there.
joe rogan
Sure.
brendan schaub
And I think if you're Johnny, you know, and he's probably taking a lot of abuse online, and I wish he would stop, but it's all good, man.
You've had a good go.
joe rogan
Well, I hope he doesn't take abuse.
Really, what we should do, we should be praising heaps on Paulo Costa, because that guy's scary.
He's fucking terrifying.
That guy's the future.
He's legit as fuck.
brendan schaub
I haven't seen him on the ground, but yeah.
joe rogan
Well, who knows?
And I would like to see someone test him.
I'd like to see him against a real strong 185-pound wrestler.
brendan schaub
I think he's 4-0 in the UFC in all knockouts, or 3-0 in all knockouts.
His last two he murked, dude.
joe rogan
Woo!
So, what we got to see is he's for real and he's the future.
brendan schaub
How's he not on the cover of GQ or some shit?
I'm telling you, man.
I'm fucking...
When I was watching, I was like, the fuck?
joe rogan
Well, that could be the one thing that doesn't end.
brendan schaub
I look like fucking Weinstein next to him.
He was fucking...
I mean, good-looking dude, man.
joe rogan
Maybe that could be what does him in.
Just OG on pussy.
When you're that good looking, it's gotta be hard.
It's gotta be hard to say no.
brendan schaub
Super hard.
joe rogan
And as he gets more and more famous, you know, he's gonna be famous.
For sure.
He keeps smashing people that way.
Looking that way.
Smashing people that way.
brendan schaub
That's trouble, son.
joe rogan
If he's not famous, he should sue the UFC. It's just Johnny looked two weight classes lighter than him.
Johnny looked like he was a welterweight and the eraser looked like he was a light heavier.
brendan schaub
Johnny's just lost man.
And like going to Jackson's, and I'm not knocking Jackson.
Jackson's one of the greatest camps of all time, still is, but when fighters go there because they've seen how much success they've had, it's literally heaven's waiting room.
It's the fucking, you know, it's the Florida of fighting camps where people go, here's the answer.
I get that, but if you're going there, it's probably not the answer.
joe rogan
Well, it's also, you've got to think of the years that he wasn't there.
And those play a factor in his development.
It's not like you just get right back to where you should have been.
Like, oh, here's the answer.
No, you were training wrong for all these years, and his performance dwindled pretty substantially.
Except for the one fight with Hector Lombard, which is really interesting.
That was like the one fight where he actually looked pretty good.
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
And he beat Lombard.
You know, who's still fucking dangerous.
And I was like, look, Johnny Hendrix looks like he's back.
And that wasn't that long ago.
brendan schaub
Hell no, it was last year.
joe rogan
But there's another guy who shouldn't be at 185 pounds.
So he fought a guy who's like him.
A thick dude who's really a 170 that doesn't have the best diet in the world.
You know, I don't care what anybody says.
You know, that you shouldn't be criticizing him.
You don't walk a mile in his shoes.
And, you know, maybe his body doesn't want to respond to cutting down to 170 anymore.
Stop.
Just be honest, and I'm a Johnny Hendricks fan.
Look at his body.
You should not be fighting the best professional fighters in the world unless you're a heavyweight and you have a body like that.
With all that extra body fat, that does you no good.
It's not aiding your performance in any way, shape, or form.
It is 100% a sign of a lack of either planning, where you didn't plan your diet out in advance, where you're too heavy or too much body fat coming into camp, or...
Poor discipline or poor organization of your diet where you don't understand like what food you should and shouldn't be eating.
When a guy's training for a three-round fucking fight at the top of the heap in the UFC's middleweight division, you got to think this guy's got to be doing some goddamn rigorous shit.
The American public, if they're watching this going, if this fucking guy can't look good, how am I going to look good?
And I'm kind of exaggerating because Johnny didn't look terrible.
But like...
brendan schaub
I think it was worse because Homelay looked great.
Costa looked like a fucking Greek statue.
joe rogan
You don't have to look like a bodybuilder.
Some of the toughest guys are like Evan Dunham.
He doesn't have a bodybuilder's physique.
But he doesn't have any extra weight on him.
That extra weight is not doing you any good.
brendan schaub
No, Wonderboy's not winning any events, bodybuilding events.
joe rogan
No, but he doesn't have a fucking extra pound on him.
Nor does Woodley.
Woodley's fucking shredded.
He's got the best body in the division.
brendan schaub
Woodley could win the Olympia.
joe rogan
He could win Mr. Olympia.
brendan schaub
At least top five.
joe rogan
If he really just got into it, 100%.
He's got phenomenal genetics.
But anyway, you can't be competing at the highest levels of the sport giving up that much of an advantage.
If that was a good agreement that you had, like, all right, we could fight at 185, but you have to be 20% body fat and I could be 10%.
Like, what?
brendan schaub
Especially this day and age.
Like, mixed martial arts is such a high level.
joe rogan
So high level.
brendan schaub
Dude, I was just going over the welterweights the other day, and I'm like, holy shit!
joe rogan
Holy shit!
brendan schaub
There is so much talent.
Like, the UFC and the welterweight division are in such good hands.
There's so much young, killing talent.
If you're not taking every advantage of the techniques and your training, you're left in the dust.
And Johnny is from that old-school kind of training...
You know what I'm saying?
He's an older cat, man.
joe rogan
Well, what he was talking about when he was talking about training in Texas, that he couldn't spar hard with people or they wouldn't come back, that he had to take it light on them, and then what he really loved about going to Jax is he was dealing with real high-level fighters all the time, so he was getting great training in, which I thought was great to hear, but it's not great that he spent so much time doing it the other way.
brendan schaub
Hell no.
In 2017?
joe rogan
You lose your focus.
You lose the drive, and you just start going through the motions if you're not being challenged all the time.
And he was obviously being challenged in competition, but he should have been with a real camp a long time ago.
unidentified
Agree.
joe rogan
What happened with him?
He was with Team Takedown, and they had some sort of a weird agreement?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So he was Team Takedown.
He came from Oklahoma State, right?
National champion, whatever state.
70-time All-American.
Just a monster.
And then the deal was they're going to support him financially with a house, food, training camp.
They take care of all that.
joe rogan
They give you like a salary?
brendan schaub
A salary.
But once you make it, we're taking 50% of everything.
And when you're young, up-and-coming, hungry fighter, that's a great deal.
Until you become Johnny Hendricks and become the world champion.
Like, hold up.
50%?
I appreciate what you guys did for me.
Goddamn, man.
Like, you're robbing me blind here.
This is crazy.
joe rogan
Hmm.
brendan schaub
So they had to go separate ways.
joe rogan
Here's the question.
brendan schaub
They opened Big Rick Steakhouse.
joe rogan
Did they?
That was a terrible idea.
brendan schaub
I would eat there, though.
joe rogan
I would eat there just for the story.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
You and me, selfie, smile, hold off the menu.
brendan schaub
But I'll hate on it if it wasn't good, Johnny.
joe rogan
Did you leave a Yelp review?
brendan schaub
Yeah, like, bro, terrible.
joe rogan
Have you ever Yelp reviewed?
brendan schaub
I've never.
Have you?
unidentified
Never.
brendan schaub
That's why we're friends.
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Have you ever, hey, have you ever left a comment on YouTube?
unidentified
Nope.
brendan schaub
Nope, that's why we're friends.
Have you ever hated on a guy on Instagram?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
brendan schaub
No, me neither.
joe rogan
No, it's not really my style.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
It's a waste of time.
brendan schaub
Yeah, my friends don't do that.
There's only so much time.
I don't get that.
What the fuck are you going to do?
joe rogan
There's only so much time in this world.
You should choose to use it wisely.
brendan schaub
I was doing, at my last show, some guy asked me a question.
He stood up and he goes, hey man, have you read the YouTube comment?
I went, stop there.
He goes, I've never read a YouTube comment in my life, my man.
So there's no question.
He goes, really?
Never?
I went, not once.
I'm too busy creating material for you guys.
I'm not reading comments, man.
He's like, alright, no doubt.
joe rogan
He's trying to tell you something he wrote.
brendan schaub
Some shit.
joe rogan
That was really mean.
brendan schaub
Probably.
Probably trolling.
joe rogan
Probably.
brendan schaub
Maybe.
joe rogan
He felt it.
He was running with it.
brendan schaub
Hopefully not.
joe rogan
We're not hating on a guy like Johnny.
brendan schaub
I love Johnny.
Like I said, there's no reason.
joe rogan
But it is reality, right?
Yeah, exactly.
It's not like we're saying this and he looks like, you know, like Paulo Costa.
brendan schaub
Sometimes I think people confuse...
Hate and being critical of a performance.
joe rogan
Critical of reality.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but also when they go, you're hating on the UFC sometimes when we talk about pay-per-view numbers or the last pay-per-views.
I'm like, listen, I have nothing to do with the way they promote the fighters, all that stuff.
If the numbers are low, I literally have nothing to do with that.
I just give my thoughts on what is going on in the landscape of the UFC. That's not hating.
joe rogan
Pull up a picture of Johnny Hendricks with a beer in his hand with his shirt off.
He's got a picture where his gut is enormous.
brendan schaub
It seems to be about 225. Yeah, between fights you get up 225. That you can't do.
joe rogan
You just can't do that.
And he could do that because he was the champ, you know, at the time.
brendan schaub
It was a while ago.
joe rogan
It was a long time ago.
brendan schaub
This day and age, man, the game's evolving so fucking fast.
As a welterweight, man, you better have your shit together.
joe rogan
You better have your shit together.
brendan schaub
I was looking at division.
I was scared for people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Man, you motherfuckers better be training right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a serious shark tank, and it's a good combination of upcoming new guys and veterans.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
There's an awesome combination of everybody in there.
There's one, but there's a better one where you see him from the side.
Yeah, above it.
Right above it with the hat on.
Look at this one.
What?
brendan schaub
That's whatever.
Go to the one with the red shirt on.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck what...
joe rogan
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Is that real?
brendan schaub
That's real.
joe rogan
How could that be real?
There's no way he ever got that big, is there?
Come on.
brendan schaub
He likes to eat, bro.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
He had bicep surgery and I said, fuck it.
joe rogan
What year was this, though?
brendan schaub
Last week.
joe rogan
2014. Oh, he had bicep surgery three years ago?
Dude, that'll take you back a year by itself.
That probably...
jamie vernon
That says armor.
joe rogan
Oh, his arm is underneath there.
brendan schaub
Oh, okay.
That's not his gut.
No, he used to get thick, though.
joe rogan
I was like, what did he eat?
brendan schaub
Rocks?
They inject fat into him?
joe rogan
His arm is under his stomach, you assholes.
brendan schaub
Again, I love Johnny.
We're not hating on Johnny.
joe rogan
No, there's just no room for anything other than excellence at 170 now.
Or even 185 now.
brendan schaub
But also for the sport and where it's evolved that...
In the NFL, you can't get away with that.
In the NBA, you can't get away with that.
The UFC's getting there at a high level.
You better have all your bases covered.
You're getting lit the fuck up.
Especially at these certain weight classes.
joe rogan
Dude, how about OSP? It takes a fight on 11 days notice.
brendan schaub
I was like, yeah, I'll do it.
joe rogan
Crazy head kick.
And he landed a head kick earlier in the fight.
Same kick.
And we were talking about it, too.
We were like, look out for his left kick.
He's got a brutal left kick.
And then, boom, right on the button.
brendan schaub
Walk away home run.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it was crazy.
It was so powerful.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
God, Doug just walked away.
joe rogan
Out cold.
Just out cold.
brendan schaub
He's silently on this little bit of a rampage at 2 of 5, too.
joe rogan
You know, he has three Von Flu chokes.
brendan schaub
Yes.
unidentified
Isn't that crazy?
brendan schaub
Which is crazy, man, because he's not a jiu-jitsu guy.
There's only been five ever.
joe rogan
There's only been five Von Flu chokes ever.
He's got three of them.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Bam!
Baseball bat against the head, son.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
And right on the jaw, too.
brendan schaub
Great win.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it was a good fight up until then.
You know?
brendan schaub
Corey Enstrom's doing well.
joe rogan
Oh, man, you see the head turn?
The jaw turn?
brendan schaub
Corey was doing well, especially with his wrestling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But then OSP's just so explosive, man.
joe rogan
Jamie just wants to keep showing it to us.
brendan schaub
Bam!
Poor Corey, man.
Poor Corey.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a rough way to go out.
Yeah, the whole card was insane, right?
brendan schaub
That main card, though, for me, as far as the surprises, three titles on the line, just the best UFC of all time.
joe rogan
And GSP going, like, when he clipped him with that left hand, going to the ground, ground and pound, then going to the rear naked choke and then pulling him to sleep.
brendan schaub
I gotta be honest, I was surprised Bisping didn't retire with you after the fight.
joe rogan
He's like, we're still gonna go.
brendan schaub
I'm like, well, what are you gonna do?
joe rogan
He's gonna fight somebody else.
brendan schaub
Who?
joe rogan
Yoel Romero.
brendan schaub
Yoel's just waiting back there.
joe rogan
If Bisping beats Yoel Romero, they will light England on fire.
unidentified
Dude.
brendan schaub
God damn it.
joe rogan
Have that fight in London.
Yeah, for reals.
I mean, think about it.
I mean, Michael got choked unconscious.
He got dropped with a good left hand, but he didn't get knocked out.
brendan schaub
He also won a round.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He won the second round.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is he didn't take the kind of damage where he has to be out for a year.
You know?
brendan schaub
No.
Hell no.
joe rogan
Hell no.
brendan schaub
No.
He could fight in March.
joe rogan
For sure.
unidentified
March.
joe rogan
So if they're going to do one in London, Yoel Romero and Michael Bisbee.
brendan schaub
I think there's a fight in March in London as well.
That'd be sick.
joe rogan
Yoel Romero was everywhere with Jorge Masvidal.
brendan schaub
Oh, was he really?
joe rogan
They were running into each other, and there was a video of Masvidal going at it with Michael Bisping.
brendan schaub
I saw that.
joe rogan
Everybody gets separated, but Yoel Romero's right there in the mix.
unidentified
I'm right here, mate!
brendan schaub
Was he there?
joe rogan
I'm right here!
Michael Bisping!
brendan schaub
Dude, they have to make that happen.
unidentified
I love you!
I'm right here!
brendan schaub
Just off the fucking...
unidentified
Yeah, look.
joe rogan
They're hanging out together.
I'm right here, Michael Bisping.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what.
If you're Bisping, I love Bisping.
He's as tough as they come.
I don't want to be alone with those two motherfuckers.
Hell no.
Especially after burning the flag or whatever he did.
joe rogan
Oh, what did he do?
brendan schaub
Didn't he burn the flag?
joe rogan
Did he burn a Brazilian flag?
jamie vernon
Remember?
A Cuban flag.
He threw it at him during the fight.
brendan schaub
I thought he, like, Dave Chappelle stomped it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, definitely don't do that.
joe rogan
How badass is fucking Robert Whittaker that he went five rounds with that dude and won a decision?
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
And he did it with a fucked up knee.
He got his knee jacked early in the fight.
Robert Whittaker's scary.
brendan schaub
No one's trying to fight Whittaker.
joe rogan
Him versus GSP is yikes!
brendan schaub
That ain't happening.
unidentified
Yikes!
brendan schaub
You don't need to be scared.
That ain't happening.
unidentified
Yikes!
Yikes!
brendan schaub
You don't need to be scared.
joe rogan
The way he head kick Jacare, like, yo, this dude's not playing.
brendan schaub
He's so fast.
unidentified
He's fast as fuck.
brendan schaub
GSB's like, nah, I'm good on that, bro.
joe rogan
I don't know about that.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
Both former welterweights.
brendan schaub
It's not happening, son.
joe rogan
Whitaker's a beast, man.
brendan schaub
He's so fast and explosive.
joe rogan
And he's young as fuck.
I think Robert's only 26 or 27. Yeah, he's not old.
How old is Robert Whitaker?
If you guessed, take a guess.
unidentified
I say 27. 26. That's young as fuck.
joe rogan
He's not even in his prime yet.
brendan schaub
He's not even in his prime yet.
joe rogan
Dude, he's a beast.
brendan schaub
If you had a gun to my head right now, like, what's next?
What's next?
I'd say Whitaker, Rockhold, in Australia.
That's what you're getting.
And then you get GSP Woodley.
joe rogan
I love that.
Dana White, George St. Pierre staying at 185 pounds, facing Robert Whitaker next.
Holy shit!
brendan schaub
Look at my face.
joe rogan
You don't believe it?
I don't think you know shit.
How about that?
Yeah, I want to call Dana White right now.
brendan schaub
Do it!
joe rogan
And tell him.
unidentified
Dana says you're a liar.
joe rogan
No, I didn't!
unidentified
No, I never thought that.
joe rogan
Totally like little kid shit.
brendan schaub
No, I didn't, bro.
I was saying.
joe rogan
I believe it when I see it.
That's all I said.
unidentified
I believe it when I see it.
I just said.
brendan schaub
He said a lot of shit.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Like it's the UFC's best year ever.
Maybe you know some shit we don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, well that's crazy talk.
brendan schaub
But I don't have to be the UFC accountant to just run through some numbers in my old brain brain here that might have some brain trauma and go, I don't think so.
joe rogan
There's some awesome things that happened.
Some awesome fights, for sure.
brendan schaub
There's one awesome money-making fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm saying there's been, well, if you just want to look at the business overall, yes.
No, for pay-per-view sales, yes.
But for people like you and I that are just fans, it's been one of the best years ever.
brendan schaub
God, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's extreme, Joe.
Mighty Mouse beating the title and then doing it the way he did.
Slamming that dude and getting a flying armbar.
That was cool.
Establishing dominance like that.
Amanda Nunez, Merck and Ronda Rousey.
brendan schaub
Was that this year?
No, that was last year.
That was last December.
jamie vernon
I believe it was in January.
joe rogan
It's this year, bro.
brendan schaub
No, it was last year.
Am I going crazy?
I'm pretty sure it was last December.
joe rogan
You might be right.
brendan schaub
Because this year they haven't had Conor, Ronda, Brock.
They haven't had their heavyweights.
jamie vernon
It was December 29th.
unidentified
BAM! Very, very close.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess that's not this year.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
It's been a down year as far as...
There's been some fun matchups if your ball's deep into MMA like we are, but as far as just a great year, no.
Some of those pay-per-views, I was like, God damn, or the fight nights.
Come on, man.
I think it was just a transitional period.
Again, it's not the UFC's fault.
With the talent, too, it just wasn't timing up right.
But then you get certain cards like this where they hit it out the fucking park.
joe rogan
Yeah, this one was so epic.
Was Cody and Dominick Cruz this year or last year?
brendan schaub
Cody-Dominick Cruz was this year.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So there's that.
Cody-Dominick Cruz is a big fight, especially for fans.
What about 55?
Now it's all stalled out.
Because with Khabib on the sidelines, Tony Ferguson being the interim champ.
brendan schaub
He had to wait forever.
joe rogan
I mean, do we even know if Khabib is going to fight again?
brendan schaub
He's fighting Barboza December 30th.
joe rogan
That is definitely happening.
brendan schaub
That's happening.
They said, no more tiramisu, sir.
You're fighting December 30th.
joe rogan
Yeah, Daniel Cormier said he has a real nutritionist now.
brendan schaub
How the fuck does that happen?
Oh, do you?
You rank number one in the world?
Did you get a nutritionist?
joe rogan
Undefeated.
Smashing everybody.
Smashing.
And you almost died from making weight?
brendan schaub
And someone was like, man, you know what we should do?
joe rogan
Twice?
Almost died twice?
brendan schaub
You keep missing weight, bro.
No, you could be the best in the world.
We should hire a nutritionist.
It's not a bad idea.
Fire everyone around you, Khabib, if you're listening.
joe rogan
He's a devout Muslim, so anytime it's anywhere near Ramadan, can't fight.
Well, some guys pulled it out.
Bilal Muhammad did.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
And he did it by organizing his camp.
He organized all of his training.
So all of his training was done after dark.
brendan schaub
Because they're fast all during the day, right?
And you can eat once it was sun down.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think, I don't even know if you're allowed to drink water.
brendan schaub
No, I don't think so.
But you just go crazy once the sun goes down.
joe rogan
When the sun's down.
brendan schaub
From sunrise to sunset, you go nuts.
joe rogan
So I think what he did was just alter his training.
Makes sense.
And train at night.
I guess.
brendan schaub
Hey, Khabib, how bad do you want it?
joe rogan
Well, it's just such a crazy rule.
If God was around, would he really decide?
I guess the idea is that by recognizing that you're doing something difficult that you don't want to do, you're like, in this religious tradition, you're honoring him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't think God gives a fuck about your intern belt in the UFC. He might.
But either way, Khabib gets your shit together so he can let you fight.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
You broke my heart when he pulled out a Tony Ferguson fight.
joe rogan
That broke my heart, too.
brendan schaub
I was so mad.
joe rogan
The day of the weigh-ins.
brendan schaub
I was so mad.
joe rogan
There's no way.
brendan schaub
I know, I'm never upset.
joe rogan
Was it the day before the weigh-ins?
brendan schaub
Was it the day of or day before?
joe rogan
Very close, within a day or two.
Very close, whatever it was.
brendan schaub
I feel like it was the day of.
It was so frustrating.
joe rogan
Yeah, he can't say anything now.
He's got to just be completely quiet until he fights and wins.
unidentified
And just go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And Barboza, you know, it's a tough fight for him because Barboza's the nastiest stand-up in the game, especially that division, but it's a winnable fight for Khabib.
He gets a hold of you, you're going for a ride.
joe rogan
Yeah, if he gets a hold of you, he can wrestle fuck you like no one else.
brendan schaub
Khabib, Tony, that's the fight.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Isn't it?
brendan schaub
But obviously you got Tony Conner, I think happens in March.
joe rogan
When he was holding Michael Johnson down, helpless, and just beating the shit out of him, he was helpless.
When have you ever seen anybody be able to do that?
brendan schaub
He was talking to him and goes, just give up.
I need this.
I need this.
Just stop now.
I don't want to do this.
Whooping his ass.
joe rogan
And just beating the shit out of him.
Complete, total control of him, how he's beating the shit out of him.
brendan schaub
Some Russian shit.
joe rogan
What's crazy about it is at that level, it's very rare that that can happen.
At that level where someone is so much better that the other person is just completely tied up.
brendan schaub
There you go.
They're on the card, too.
Look at that card, man.
joe rogan
The eagle.
brendan schaub
Hold up.
They don't have a main event.
joe rogan
Carlos Condit returning against Neil Magny.
Come on, kids.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
They are throwing Magny just to the killers.
joe rogan
I like how they say, to be determined for the main event.
brendan schaub
Because they're banking on Conor?
joe rogan
Well, who knows?
Dominic Cruz versus Rivera is interesting.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Cavillo versus Carla Espaza is very interesting.
brendan schaub
Cavillo, your next star in the women's division?
joe rogan
Cynthia Cavillo.
brendan schaub
Dude, you're going over one.
unidentified
She's badass.
brendan schaub
You got fucking Roundtree versus Saki.
Go Con!
joe rogan
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
The UFC's tweet pissed me off with that fight.
joe rogan
Kokan Saki's a fucking monster.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
When they announced it, they put stand.n.bang.
joe rogan
Ew.
I was like, ah!
brendan schaub
Who's running this?
What 14-year-old from Reddit's running this thing?
joe rogan
Ew.
brendan schaub
I read that and went, fuck, man.
Do better!
joe rogan
And how about Kamaru Usman versus Meek?
brendan schaub
Usman's the guy everyone's scared of.
So Usman wanted to fight too.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
Usman's another one at 170 that's terrifying.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
He easily could be a world champion.
brendan schaub
The Nigerian nightmare.
joe rogan
He's a nightmare.
brendan schaub
Christian Akoya, shout out.
joe rogan
And this fucking dude, Emil Meek, is a beast.
brendan schaub
He looks like a beast dude.
joe rogan
He's a scary fuck too, man.
It's all very interesting.
brendan schaub
No one wants to fight Usman.
They tried offering big fights, and Meek was the only guy to take it.
joe rogan
He's like, I'll fight him.
brendan schaub
Now, is Meek a straight fucking Viking?
What's going on there?
joe rogan
He's a full-on Viking genius.
brendan schaub
Tell you what, with that body, he's challenging our boy.
The Brazilian time.
joe rogan
He smashed Tokinho.
He fought Usman with Parhares and just knocked him unconscious.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
That's how he got into the UFC. He's a beast, man.
That's a real good fight.
But I just don't know.
I don't know if Emil Meek is going to be fast enough to keep Usman...
brendan schaub
Oh, no one wants to fight Usman.
No, he's a nightmare to deal with.
unidentified
He's terrifying.
joe rogan
He's the scariest number 12 ranked guy in the world.
How about Usman versus Darren Till?
unidentified
Jesus!
brendan schaub
See, I'm Usman Colby.
Colby Till is what I'd like.
joe rogan
I'd like Usman versus anybody.
I'd like to see Usman fight for the title.
I'd like to see him fight anybody.
brendan schaub
Right now?
joe rogan
Yep, I think he's the most underrated guy in maybe in every division.
That's what I think.
brendan schaub
That might be fair.
I don't know if I'd want to see him fight for the title right now.
unidentified
Who did he fight?
joe rogan
Who was his last fight?
Click on that thing.
brendan schaub
He's just destroying dudes.
joe rogan
Yeah, destroying dudes.
Who was his last fight?
Sergio Marais.
Oh, yeah, Sergio Marais is a jiu-jitsu guy.
Yo, he'd put the smash on him.
Marais is a badass jiu-jitsu player.
He's the first guy that tapped Krohn when Krohn got his black belt.
brendan schaub
He also fucking gave Neil Magny that horrible triangle in Brazil.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
brendan schaub
Magny and jiu-jitsu do not go together.
joe rogan
And especially that guy's jiu-jitsu.
When he fought in the finals, when Sergio fought in the finals of The Ultimate Fighter, it was in Brazil, he goes, my opponent has just as much of a chance of getting me pregnant as he does submitting me.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
That's a great line.
joe rogan
He was fighting Caesar for Hera.
brendan schaub
Oh, who's a monster, too.
Nate's fighting him.
joe rogan
Nate, yeah.
brendan schaub
Nate Markhart?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Brian was at AKA, jacking off the boys at AKA. How many guys did he jack off?
I know Luke Rockwell gave him a facial, for the most part.
joe rogan
So Luke's over there?
brendan schaub
And DC, too.
Yeah, Luke's there.
And Callan was saying...
What were we talking about?
I was trying to think about Callan jacking dudes off.
joe rogan
How many guys he jacked off at AKA? No.
brendan schaub
Oh, he saw Nate.
Nate's straight at AKA now.
joe rogan
Marquardt is?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
No shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's doing a lot of his camp there.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
How much have you been fighting since he was 12?
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Think about how many wars that guy's been in.
Remember his fight with Woodley in Strikeforce?
We knocked him out with a Mortal Kombat combination?
brendan schaub
A, B, A, B, left, right.
joe rogan
See if you find Nate Marquardt KOs Tyron Woodley.
brendan schaub
Nate became world champion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
People forget he's a multi-time Pancras champion, but that was like his first real...
Not that Pancras wasn't real, but that was his first huge belt in Strikeforce.
joe rogan
Yeah, super talented guy.
brendan schaub
Super young, old elbow.
joe rogan
I mean, come on, man.
brendan schaub
You know what's crazy about that?
That camp is working with this weird taekwondo guy, and they're just doing elbows, and we'd make fun of him.
He'd be in the corner, just doing these weird fucking motions.
We're like, okay, Nate, good luck with that.
I mean...
joe rogan
Meanwhile, that's what he uses.
Dude, elbows.
You gotta think.
brendan schaub
How about Bisbee on the bottom of those elbows to GSP? Lit his face up.
joe rogan
Tore it up.
Caught him up bad.
He was bleeding badly.
He was having a hard time seeing it.
You could see it on his forehead.
He was caught on the bridge of his nose.
It's good.
Elbows are like some of the most underutilized weapons.
You gotta think of the surface area.
You can get a hard strike in a very close quarters with elbows.
Like when someone's very good with it.
You remember when Krokop fought Gonzaga?
Oh my god.
Got on top of him and just opened him up like he hit him with an axe.
brendan schaub
My word, man.
unidentified
Oof!
Oof!
joe rogan
Man.
Like, watching good Muay Thai, too.
Watching people that are good at elbows and smash and slash elbows.
brendan schaub
Elbows are tough because you can't really train elbows.
joe rogan
Oh, that was the other fight.
Did you see the fight on the Fight Pass undercard?
Which mean...
brendan schaub
I don't watch my best.
joe rogan
...Feras Zahabi's brother?
brendan schaub
No!
I heard Feras Zahabi's brother just got dealt with.
Dude.
Is it bad?
I didn't see it.
joe rogan
Dude, it was bad and I saw it coming because he was giving up the spin.
I saw it.
I'm like, he's going to spin.
And he spun and hit him with a spinning elbow on the jaw.
No!
Snapped his head around like you've never seen.
Fully unconscious.
Fully unconscious for 5-10 minutes.
Fully unconscious.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Astral traveling.
brendan schaub
You had a huge main event you had to get ready for, my man.
Let's get back in there.
joe rogan
This is his brother.
brendan schaub
Let's go ahead and shake that off.
joe rogan
And it was a really good fight, and his brother was putting a tremendous amount of pressure on the other guy.
God damn it, I forget his name.
brendan schaub
Do you not have the highlight, Jamie?
It's going to be tough with the fight pass, huh?
It's out there.
joe rogan
What is homeboy's name?
jamie vernon
I watched Ricardo Ramos.
Is that it?
The headline on that was real weird.
I'm just going to pull up the video.
joe rogan
Let me see if this is it.
Yeah, that's it.
Right here.
Boom.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Damn.
He goes stiff.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's a broken jaw.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Show that again.
It's a homos is how you say it.
brendan schaub
Oh, so he lands it once behind the air.
joe rogan
Watch this one.
brendan schaub
Boom.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
Show that again from the very beginning.
Keep the volume up.
Go to the very beginning.
brendan schaub
That has to be so hard if you're for us.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
It lands here behind the air.
joe rogan
Right there.
I said, Hamas was thinking about spinning, and that's when he did it.
unidentified
Boom.
brendan schaub
God!
joe rogan
Damn!
Two in a row.
I think he stunned him with the first one, and then I think the second one, just look at his face.
Dude, his jaw was distorted.
brendan schaub
His jaw was fucked.
joe rogan
Yeah, just got smashed.
brendan schaub
Nothing worse.
joe rogan
That's a perfect example, though, of how good elbows are.
If someone gets really good at spinning elbows, you ever see Gaston Bolano's fight?
brendan schaub
No.
You're also not going to break your elbow.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
You can smash people in the face.
joe rogan
Sometimes guys have chunks of shit, though, floating around their elbow.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Like splinters.
joe rogan
Like Anderson had some stuff removed from his elbow.
And Jacare did.
Jacare had some stuff.
He had so much stuff removed from his elbow that it filled a cup.
Like, he put pictures of it online.
Like, chips.
brendan schaub
I've actually drained my elbow like a motherfucker.
I just put a needle in it and just keep draining it.
joe rogan
I just suck and puss out of it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, if you watch my Teixeira fight, right, literally, I'm in the back of the stage, like, draining it, because it kept filling up.
joe rogan
Right before the fight?
brendan schaub
Yeah, because I was worried that, because he was a wrestler, and I was like, if he takes me down, I'm gonna throw some elbows.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
And I'm like, I got this fucking baseball pad here.
I gotta drain it.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was it painful or was it just swelling?
brendan schaub
No, it was just swelling.
It was just stupid.
It's like I had a big titty on my arm.
I had a tit on my arm.
We just kept draining it.
joe rogan
Do you find the pictures of Jacare's debris that was in his elbow?
I think I showed it to you before.
When we looked at it, we were like, what the fuck?
Like, that was in his elbow?
Like, it's like a cup of it on the operating table?
Ugh.
Like, there it is.
brendan schaub
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's all the year's jiu-jitsu, huh?
Just grinding on people's face.
joe rogan
I think it's probably not tapping.
And then it's probably sparring.
You've got to think he's doing a lot of kickboxing sparring.
Click on that other one.
Is that a size comparison?
Go back to his again so we can stare at what was inside his fucking elbow.
That's crazy.
Chunks.
It looks like corn.
It looks like teeth.
Some of it is probably cartilage.
Some of it's probably bone.
brendan schaub
A lot of people are saying, you know, Anderson Silva has this fight against Kelvin, but they're like, Anderson GSP! I feel like that ship sailed, though.
joe rogan
Well, I'll tell you what, if Anderson lights up Kelvin Gastelum, it's not sailed.
brendan schaub
Like highlight knockout?
joe rogan
Yeah, flying knee, KO. At 85?
Like he hit Bisping?
Remember when he hit Bisping with that flying knee?
brendan schaub
And then Bisping came back and won.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Anderson is...
That was crazy, right?
Anderson thought it was over, walked away with his arms up in the air.
brendan schaub
It's a weird fight.
joe rogan
And he hit him when Bisping was calling for his mouthpiece.
brendan schaub
Bisping was like, no, I need my mouthpiece.
joe rogan
Boom.
Flying knee.
brendan schaub
That's on Bisping.
You gotta know.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
That's on Bisping.
joe rogan
How about he comes back and wins the next round?
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Tough as shit.
There it is.
brendan schaub
Fucking British zombie.
joe rogan
Boom.
See, Anderson, if Anderson wins in a big way, look at that.
Michael Bisping cracking Anderson Silva.
That was crazy, too, when he knocked Anderson down.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody was like, oh.
brendan schaub
That's one of the greatest fights in middleweight history.
joe rogan
Don't sleep on him.
brendan schaub
That's what made the Bisping kind of legend there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a big fight, man.
brendan schaub
Huge fight.
joe rogan
That was a big deal, you know?
I mean, look at that.
brendan schaub
Boom.
Dude, but also, Anderson's so much taller than Kelvin.
Kelvin's issue at 85 is size.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'll tell you what.
Kelvin has stupid hand speed, man.
And beautiful combinations.
The way he fucked up Vitor.
Like, dude, who's fucked up Vitor like that stand-in before?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I mean, Vitor's old as fuck.
joe rogan
You're right.
Old, been through wars, been beat up, post-Golden Snitch.
brendan schaub
Golden Snitch was like, Vitor, you're good.
unidentified
The Golden Snitch changed the future of Vitor Belfort.
brendan schaub
Changed the future of everybody.
joe rogan
But even before the Golden Snitch, just the whole getting rid of the testosterone replacement therapy was before.
brendan schaub
But think about when Kelvin, again, I love Kelvin, I think he's actually a natural 170. I think he's going to be better at 170. Because look when he went against a guy like Weidman, who's an upper echelon 85-er.
It's just a different level, man.
And when they're bigger and just as fast and technical, it doesn't work like that.
joe rogan
And Weidman has a crushing top game.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal grappling game.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially his top game.
His ground game from the bottom got exposed a little bit in the Rockhold fight.
It also shows you how good Rockhold's top game is, because Rockhold is a fucking monster when he gets on top of guys.
brendan schaub
Rockhold's a black belt.
Rockhold's a black belt on the ground.
joe rogan
Legit.
brendan schaub
Top, bottom, super legit.
joe rogan
Right, but so is Weidman.
Weidman's a black belt on the ground as well.
I just think his bottom game is not, like, this top game is insane.
He gets on top of you exactly the way he did Calvin.
He gets that choke down on you, that head and arm choke.
unidentified
You're in trouble.
joe rogan
You're fucked.
But he just doesn't have the ability to get up or to be very good defensively off of his back the way some other guys do.
brendan schaub
No, bottom's tough, man, to be really, really good.
You have to be such a high level.
To be effective and be a threat down there.
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah.
And Brockhold is also used to sparring with Kane and used to sparring with DC all the time.
He's used to constantly grappling guys way bigger, way heavier, way stronger.
So he's so fucking strong.
His top game's so strong.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
joe rogan
When he got David Branch down and he's on top of a mountain and he clamps those legs together, you're like, oh, he's fucked.
He's not getting up.
brendan schaub
Branch is a Henzo John Donaher black belt, too.
He made him look kind of silly.
joe rogan
He smashed him.
Once he got to the ground, just smashed him.
So, like, him versus GSP would be crazy.
brendan schaub
Rockhold GSP? No.
joe rogan
Yeah, Luke Rockhold GSP. Oh, no.
Him versus GSP would be fucking crazy.
Are you saying Anderson Silva GSP? No, I'm saying Anderson Silva GSP would be interesting.
Rockhold versus GSP would be crazy.
unidentified
How dare you?
brendan schaub
No, crazy.
Crazy if you're a Rockhold fan.
joe rogan
You think Rockhold is smashing?
brendan schaub
That ain't a fight.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Hulk smash.
joe rogan
Hulk smash?
brendan schaub
Yeah, whatever.
GSB is just too small for him.
Especially if he has cardio issues, Rockhold can go, too.
Watch his fights, you know, his Strikeforce Day fights with Jacare and Tim Kennedy.
Like, he can go.
That boy can move.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a bad idea for GSB. I know, but I'd still pay to see it.
Hell yeah, I'd pay to see it.
joe rogan
I want to see...
I'm interested in seeing GSP against a real top-level middleweight other than Michael Bisping.
Are you?
brendan schaub
I'm not.
I'd rather see him at 70. I do, too.
joe rogan
I want to see him at 70, too.
But I'd also like to see...
I mean, I'd like to see if we're right about him carrying that extra weight.
I'd like to see if we're right.
I mean, if I was in his corner, I wouldn't say that.
If I was in his corner...
brendan schaub
No one is saying that.
joe rogan
I'd say, look, we're going to go to 170, and we're going to spike Tyron Williams' punch.
unidentified
We're going to...
brendan schaub
For Ross, Freddie Roach, like, nah, middleweight's really not where we should be at.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would tell him at 170, if you go down to 170, you fight in a title eliminator fight against Colby Covington or someone who's like an up-and-coming guy at 170. Not fight Woodley right away?
I don't think Woodley's going to fight right away.
I think Woodley's going to be out for a while.
If I had to guess.
brendan schaub
Didn't you do an intern belt?
joe rogan
I mean, I don't know what the real extent of his shoulder is, but I've heard it's not good.
He's commenting on it a little bit, yeah.
brendan schaub
It's not good.
And he's starting to do some kind of outside the ring stuff.
He has a show on TMZ. He has a podcast.
He's in movies.
joe rogan
All that stuff's great, but I would like to see him.
brendan schaub
Is it?
joe rogan
Not really.
brendan schaub
Not if you're trying to be the best in the world.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
I don't believe in this day and age of mixed martial arts, you can do that and still be the best of the best.
joe rogan
Is he able to train at all right now?
Do you know?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
It's woodly, so he takes care of business.
joe rogan
Right.
So he's probably doing something.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm sure.
joe rogan
But if his shoulder's fucked up, he's probably not doing any real intense grappling or anything where he's got to really swing his arms around.
brendan schaub
Your boy DC's fighting Ozdemir, right?
Are you crunk for that fight?
joe rogan
Ozdemir's scary.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ozdemir's scary.
brendan schaub
He's been working, dude.
It's non-stop.
joe rogan
He fucks you up.
He gets you in a clinch and he lands bombs.
brendan schaub
It's his hands, huh?
joe rogan
He's got giant hands, dude.
Shake his hands like shaking his table.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
How long do you think that fight is on its feet for?
joe rogan
30 seconds at the most?
Over under 30 seconds?
brendan schaub
Does DC come out of singlet?
Or how's this work?
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
He's gonna give him his fucking mile-high privileges.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
He's gonna get that underhook.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's going airborne.
brendan schaub
DC's a monster.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, people forget, but watch what he did to Rumble.
You know?
Manhandles dudes.
DC's a tremendous, tremendous wrestler.
brendan schaub
Did DC say anything to you about Kane?
joe rogan
Kane's starting to train.
Yeah, Kane wants to get back in it, you know, but he's had back surgery.
And so it's pretty significant injuries, knee surgery, back surgery, shoulder surgery.
He's had a lot of shit wrong.
So he's trying to make sure that everything goes the right way.
brendan schaub
Meanwhile, Francis Cano's in Vegas, just at the fucking UFC lab, just getting filled with whatever the fuck they're giving him.
All right, Kane.
Come back to that.
joe rogan
What do you think they're testing him with?
Like, what kind of shit are they doing to him with the UFC lab?
If the UFC is smart, they'd be like, this is our guy.
Like, and Dana said this.
Dana said he might be the future.
brendan schaub
Well, I mean...
joe rogan
Tell you what, man.
Look.
He's got to fight Alistair motherfucking Overeem, and you can never sleep on Alistair Overeem.
brendan schaub
No, Alistair's the most decorated striking fighter in the UFC, by far.
joe rogan
If they start standing in front of each other, and Ngannou starts moving forward, and he doesn't protect that left leg, and Alistair starts slamming meat into that left leg...
brendan schaub
No, you're gone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Alistair's way more technical.
joe rogan
Way more technical.
But the thing about Alistair is, Alistair's fucking leg kicks are some of the most underrated aspects of his game.
brendan schaub
So is his grappling, though.
People always forget how good his grappling is.
joe rogan
It's just he can't take a shot the way some of these guys can.
brendan schaub
How dare they take a picture of Ubering.
That ain't Wolverine.
No, Ubering now runs backwards and shit when you throw right hands.
It's working, but...
joe rogan
That's the Brock Lester days.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's Ubering.
That ain't real.
That ain't the guy he's fighting.
Might as well show a picture of Wolverine up there.
That is not him.
No, I don't think so.
That's a photo shoot.
joe rogan
Okay, go to his last fight.
Who did Alistair fight?
brendan schaub
JDS, right?
Knocked him out?
joe rogan
No, he had one more fight since then at least.
JDS, I think he knocked out...
brendan schaub
Mark Hunt?
Is it when he murked Mark Hunt?
joe rogan
Yes, that's who it was.
He knocked out JDS before he fought for the title.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, so him versus Mark Hunt, weigh-ins.
Is that the weigh-ins?
Yeah, see, that's real.
brendan schaub
That's the smooth look, yeah.
joe rogan
He's still jacked, still a great athlete, but he's not steamrolling people the way he used to steamroll people.
brendan schaub
He flatlined Mark Hunt, though.
joe rogan
Dude, he did flatline him with that knee.
But, like, remember when he fought Todd Duffy in Japan?
Like, that was full Uber-eam, right?
brendan schaub
Uber-eam was also...
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
The Brock Lesnar fight's the best.
Yeah, look at that knee.
That's insane.
That is a perfect placement.
And he's got some of the best knees in the fucking business, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's so talented, man.
Now that you saw it in the Golden Snitchers, like, now you gotta fight for reals now?
He's using his technique.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's being a lot more smarter.
joe rogan
Look at that again.
Watch this.
Boom!
brendan schaub
How dare you flatline Mark Hunt, you son of a bitch.
joe rogan
That is a full flatline, too.
brendan schaub
I'm a Mark Hunt fan.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too, man.
I think he's done, though, since they pulled him off that card.
brendan schaub
Even if he flies out here and does the test they don't want him to do?
joe rogan
Well, he's got to do it now, but they offered it to him before, and apparently he said no.
I don't know what the story is, though.
I mean, I know he has one story, and he has a story that he thinks involves the lawsuit that he put on the UFC after the Brock Lesnar fight.
Because he says that they knew that Brock Lesnar was on steroids and that they made him fight.
brendan schaub
That's his lawsuit, but the only...
The only defense of that is, you know, Dana said this in his statement, he goes, hold up, we had him headline two cards, and we paid him $1.67 million.
joe rogan
Since then.
brendan schaub
Since then, for one fight.
He goes, if the lawsuit was an issue, why the fuck would we do all this?
Also, yanking him off a card, this is crazy, I'm defending Dana here for a fighter, but also yanking him off a card for a pay-per-view in Australia hurts the UFC's business model.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
So, they're also protecting their ass because it's on record that he says he's having brain issues, and then they put him in a main event, and it's an even bigger deal, then you're really gonna sue the fuck out of him.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he said it's only when he has a couple of drinks.
That's when he starts slurring his words.
brendan schaub
Preach, bro.
joe rogan
He didn't say it the right way.
brendan schaub
No, if you look at that interview, it really wasn't based off that.
It kind of got out of context, but Mark Hunt does have to own up.
He did say that.
joe rogan
He did say it.
And he said it in an interview.
But he thinks they pulled him off the card because of the lawsuit.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
joe rogan
It doesn't make any sense.
brendan schaub
It doesn't make sense.
Because Verdun versus, I forget the guy he's fighting, that's not a big pay-per-view for Australia.
That's not a big card.
Mark Hunt is a huge fucking draw in Australia.
It was designed to have him fight on that card.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's fighting Marcin Chibura, who's a striker.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
So Verdum's going to most likely take that guy to the ground and, you know...
brendan schaub
Your boy Walt Harris finally fought again after getting fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, but did you see the fight?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I did, man.
And you guys were like, I don't think he's a bad dude.
He blatantly meant to kick that dude in the face, right?
We're on the same page here.
joe rogan
Well, once we watched it again, we listened to the part where the referee says, stop, stop, and he's right in front of him, and he still throws the kick.
brendan schaub
He told him like this, and he throws that gently.
joe rogan
He says he got caught up in the whole thing, and it's a fight, and I believe him.
brendan schaub
Nah, come on.
joe rogan
But look, that means you got caught up and you decided to kick that guy anyway.
Like, you couldn't pull it back in time.
brendan schaub
Well, whether you're caught up or not, it's a cheap shot where I come from.
joe rogan
He didn't pull it back in time.
brendan schaub
No, you kicked the dude in the face while the ref was between you.
joe rogan
Right, you wanted to hit him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's a cheap shot.
joe rogan
Yep, it's not good.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
No, it's just a cheap shot.
I don't think Walt Harris is a bad dude.
joe rogan
But he did something bad.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did something bad.
You fucked up.
Whatever.
joe rogan
You fucked up.
brendan schaub
Let's not crucify the guy.
Yeah, it was super dirty.
joe rogan
And at the end of the fight, when that dude got illegally kicked in the ear, that was literally nothing.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
You know?
But you have to think about what happened before that.
brendan schaub
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, what happened?
He got poked in the eye.
Oh, no.
He got hit in the nuts.
He thought he got hit in the nuts.
He moved away.
And Walt came after him, threw a punch.
The referee said, stop.
And then he threw the head kick and caught him with the head kick.
Pretty clean.
brendan schaub
Pretty clean.
Was it enough to stop the fight?
joe rogan
No.
It was like a slap to the face more than it was.
brendan schaub
It's still a heavyweight throwing that whatever 17-size shoe he wears at your face.
joe rogan
No bueno.
brendan schaub
He's enormous.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was a hard shot.
And then, you know, he had some time to recover, and then he beat the shit out of him again, and then hit him with the illegal shot.
Then they asked him, the doctor talked to him, and...
brendan schaub
What's his name?
joe rogan
Godbeer?
Oh, Godbeer.
brendan schaub
Godbeer.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Godbeer said he couldn't go on.
brendan schaub
But, I mean, that's fair.
He got kicked in the face.
Like I said, I don't think Walt Hare's a bad dude, but he did a cheap thing.
joe rogan
I'm conflating the two fights.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm conflating that with the Curtis Blades fight.
brendan schaub
I didn't see the Curtis Blade fight.
joe rogan
Okay, that's where I fucked up.
Because the Curtis Blades fight was a cleaner result, but also an illegal shot.
Curtis was beating the shit out of this dude.
This was Olenek.
And Olenek was the guy who beat...
brendan schaub
I was thinking you were...
joe rogan
Walt Harris and Godbeard.
I got confused.
The Godbeard-Walt Harris...
The thing did not look like it was enough to stop the fight.
brendan schaub
No, but it was a cheap shot, and if God Bear was like, yeah, I'm fucked up, I can't go on, then he won the fight, which is the correct decision.
joe rogan
The other fight, which is where I fucked up, was Blades and Olenek.
Blades has beaten his shit out of Olenek, and then he went to throw a shot that would have been an illegal shot, but he didn't really hit him.
He just towed his ear.
He hit his ear with his toe.
brendan schaub
Oh, good baby?
joe rogan
But the referee saw that there was contact, so he said, look, I have to stop it because it was an illegal shot and there was contact.
And he brought the doctor in, and only Nick was done.
But he was done from the beating that he took before that, so Blades won.
brendan schaub
Oh, good.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was good.
But it was super confusing for Curtis.
He thought he was getting disqualified.
We had to calm him down.
And he had beat the shit out of the dude before that.
And you could really tell that the toe just barely touched him.
brendan schaub
That Curtis Blades, he trains with all my guys back in Denver.
Everyone's, I mean, they're saying he's the next big thing.
Everyone's super high on him.
joe rogan
If he keeps going.
If he keeps going, he keeps getting better.
You see him better in every fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and his striking has a ways to go, but they were like, dude, he had, last year he had none!
And this year it's getting better and better and better.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got leg kicked quite a bit by that big Russian dude.
brendan schaub
That Russian, that's the same Russian who knocked Travis out?
Is that him?
joe rogan
He strangled Travis.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
The only Nick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that motherfucker does just not go away.
Did he strangle Travis?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Or did he knock him out?
joe rogan
He got him like a sideways rear naked choke, remember?
brendan schaub
Oh, that's right.
He's just a fucking...
joe rogan
Neckcranker.
He's the guy that won from Ezekiel while he was mounted.
That's right.
He let the dude mount him and sunk the Ezekiel in on him.
brendan schaub
I guess that's his shit, too.
He's done it to multiple people.
joe rogan
He looks so goddamn strong, I'll tell you that, man.
brendan schaub
He looks scary.
joe rogan
When he gets a hold of people, it's like, Jesus.
brendan schaub
His walkout music is like, relax, man.
Do you hate fans?
joe rogan
Russian.
brendan schaub
Russian.
joe rogan
Religious music.
brendan schaub
Did Fedor select your walkout music?
It's not working, man.
joe rogan
Have you seen that documentary yet, Icarus?
We talked about this, right?
brendan schaub
We talked a little bit about it.
joe rogan
Did you see it?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Dude, you've got to watch it.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
We can't keep talking.
You'll go crazy.
brendan schaub
You know what the problem is?
joe rogan
Next time I see you, you have to watch this.
brendan schaub
I have to watch it.
You know what the problem is?
joe rogan
Give me an assignment, too, to make it fair.
unidentified
All right.
brendan schaub
The problem is, I listened to the homeboy who came on and talked about it, and then we've talked about it so much.
I feel like I'm good.
joe rogan
Yeah, but when you see it.
brendan schaub
If you gave me a breakdown of the first season of Narcos, and we talk about it all the time, I got it.
Spoiler alert.
joe rogan
You're definitely right, but when you see it, the visual, the way it's done, he did an amazing job putting the movie together.
The way it's done, it shows you where the building was, where they hid the urine, how they got the urine passed through the wall, they had a fucking hole in the wall, how they opened up the jars, they show the scratches on the jars, and it's like...
Dude, they robbed the Olympics.
They did the Olympics in Russia and they robbed it.
They had a record number, 13 golds, and they were just all on steroids.
brendan schaub
Here's my question for that.
So when I see that stuff, obviously it's not happening just in the Olympics.
What's going on right now in big professional sports?
Because think how much money is in the NFL, NBA, UFC, boxing.
Who's in the know?
I would love to just be a golden snitch.
joe rogan
You'd have to get the kind of...
And this is where the UFC should be credited.
Because you'd have to get the kind of access the UFC has.
And they've given to Nowitzki and the UFC and USADA. What they do is unprecedented in sports.
What they do isn't like any other sport.
You're treated as if you're in an Olympic program, where they can just show up at your house at any moment.
brendan schaub
Your entire career.
joe rogan
Yeah, your entire career.
You have to give your whereabouts everywhere you are, all day, wherever you're going to be.
It's exhausting.
brendan schaub
It's expensive, too.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
The UFC doesn't have to do this.
brendan schaub
No, they don't.
joe rogan
No one's asked them to do this.
brendan schaub
I don't know if it's the best choice, but...
joe rogan
I don't think it is.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
In today's climate and environment, look, I'm not advocating cheating.
I don't think you should cheat.
brendan schaub
Gotta have a little fun, though.
You know, I'm like, come on.
Come on.
What are we doing here?
What are we doing?
Let Jon Jones fight.
Hashtag free Jon.
joe rogan
I don't know about all that.
You want to know the craziest fucking rumor that I heard about the Jon Jones thing?
brendan schaub
Please, sir.
joe rogan
And I can't tell you who told me this.
This is the craziest one.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
The stuff that he tested positive for, and this doesn't make any sense, and people are saying that there's so many months out, the stuff that he tasted positive when he was tested here and tested there, the stuff that he tested positive takes a long time to get out of your system, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That he was tested positive.
You know where else that stuff, you find it?
You find it in creatine.
When they get creatine, sometimes from China, it's tainted with steroids.
They use that creatine to cut cocaine.
brendan schaub
So he's doing the cocaine.
joe rogan
There's one of the things that they cut some cocaine with is creatine, because it looks like cocaine.
brendan schaub
God, so he might have got mixed up with a bad batch.
joe rogan
If he was partying...
brendan schaub
Monohydrate cocaine!
joe rogan
Party!
brendan schaub
John, you want to do a bump?
joe rogan
It's really good stuff.
Hey, man, I can't test positive for anyone.
brendan schaub
It's just coke, bro.
Be out of your system tomorrow, bro.
unidentified
Woo!
Woo!
brendan schaub
Damn, I actually feel pretty swole, too.
joe rogan
Tickbull song comes on the radio.
Start dancing pitbulls.
brendan schaub
Forget about all your worries.
Forget about it all.
joe rogan
Let it go.
brendan schaub
That would make sense.
joe rogan
He had a birthday 10 days out before the UFC fight.
unidentified
Oh, what are we doing?
brendan schaub
It's like the world wants him to be a fuck up.
A birthday?
Of course you can do a couple bumps on your birthday.
joe rogan
It's my birthday.
brendan schaub
You're the world champ!
joe rogan
John, last time you fucked him up three weeks out when you did coke.
unidentified
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
Bro, you barely trained.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
If that's the case, just stop and think about it for a moment.
If it was that stuff, caught in cocaine.
brendan schaub
That's best case scenario, Joe.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's best case scenario.
unidentified
But it's not.
brendan schaub
If it's cocaina, and we can track, and we can...
unidentified
Oh, you can't track that?
joe rogan
Your dealer's going, yo, Holmes, let me come in and talk to you about where I get my shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's in Columbia, Holmes.
You guys want to go down there?
unidentified
You're welcome.
joe rogan
I'll show you.
We'll take you in the propeller plane, bro.
We travel across the border.
brendan schaub
We gotta go low.
Go do that, Nabitski.
How bad do you want to catch this guy?
joe rogan
Well, they don't want to.
They're not in the business of drug enforcement.
They don't want to catch that guy at all.
The guy's not going to admit.
He's not going to give you a baggie of his shit.
brendan schaub
Sir, is this the plot of Narcos 4?
Did John just write Narcos 4 for us?
joe rogan
John didn't tell me this.
brendan schaub
No, I'm just saying, yeah.
joe rogan
Somebody told me this as a rumor, which sounds crazy, but then Red Band was the one who called the dick pills last time.
Red Band said that if he's taking dick pills, like if the guy does coke, he tested positive for coke.
And Red Band was like, if he does dick pills, or if he does coke, he's probably doing dick pills.
And I was like, what?
And so Red Band brought a bunch of them in.
He's like, do you think anyone knows what's in these things?
brendan schaub
It's true.
joe rogan
He's like, they have steroids and all of it.
He goes, I've taken Cialis.
He goes, and I've taken this stuff.
He goes, this stuff's way crazier than Cialis.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
He says it's madness.
He says you want to fuck like a wild animal.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
He said your dick is hard as a rock.
brendan schaub
Was this the best promo for dick pills ever?
joe rogan
It seems like, but they're gas station dick pills that you're getting from some fucking third world country.
brendan schaub
If you're a world class athlete, probably shouldn't be doing that shit.
joe rogan
They're cooking them up in a bucket that they used to have paint in.
brendan schaub
Yes!
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
I mean...
Rhino, 7,000?
joe rogan
Yes.
Red Band.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'd be so scared to take that shit.
joe rogan
Brian won't take them anymore.
And Brian takes everything.
brendan schaub
And he won't take Rhino's 7,000?
joe rogan
Remember when they used to have that Life Cereal commercial?
Mike, you won't eat it.
He hates everything.
Brian's the opposite of that.
Brian will take whatever you give him.
unidentified
Is he getting fake?
joe rogan
He's like, let's go.
brendan schaub
Fuck it.
joe rogan
Let's see what the Rhino pills do.
brendan schaub
But he called it.
He did.
joe rogan
And he was right.
brendan schaub
He did, but my skeptical hippo eyes there is because, again, we're constantly looking for, and there's smart people around John, so with this stuff, yeah, there's Clomid in there, but Clomid is a masking agent.
There's a lot of masking agents.
joe rogan
This wasn't Clomid.
brendan schaub
I thought they found Clomid in his shit.
joe rogan
Oh, the old one.
I thought you meant the new one.
The new one was what?
What was it called?
brendan schaub
Some Russian zebra steroid.
joe rogan
Tornobol or something.
Yeah.
Tyrannobol.
Tyrannobol?
Tyrannobol.
brendan schaub
Ain't that a bitch, though?
If you're John, you're doing a couple of devil's dandruff and just whatever.
It's your birthday.
joe rogan
If that's the case.
But they have found the Clomid.
They did find it in those dick pills.
I mean, it was in there.
brendan schaub
It is, but also...
joe rogan
That makes sense, though, wouldn't it?
It does.
It's an estrogen inhibitor?
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
But it's also for something else.
brendan schaub
It's also for if you've been running gear and you take Clomid to recoup things.
So it's in there, and like I said, you have a lot of smart people around you where when the public hears dick pills, it's like, oh, it's not bad.
Come on!
You need a Conoco.
It's all good, baby.
Here, go fight again.
So then now, if it's cocaine, we're not looking at it in four years.
joe rogan
Well, you've got to prove that it's cocaine.
First of all, this is pure speculation on my part.
brendan schaub
God, we've got to go get that cocaine.
joe rogan
If I was a journalist, if I was working for ESPN... Oh, you don't have three sources.
They would have already had me pulled out of here.
brendan schaub
Oh, you and I would both be fired before we get ESPN. Fired.
unidentified
Fired.
brendan schaub
One, for our social media.
Two, because when I go, my sources, the one guy that is in the business, whose ball's deep, usually, in this stuff.
No, I'm not Ariel Hawaii.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm wrong 90% of the time.
I just like to talk shit, man.
joe rogan
My sources say.
brendan schaub
My sources.
I don't have to cover with three people, but your guy, who knows who it is?
Maybe it's the cocaine dealer, but they should track him.
If I'm John, I'm hiring some private investigator to track some shit down.
It's too late, though.
joe rogan
That batch is gone.
I cannot tell you who my guy is, but he does not have a vested interest in anybody being correct.
He just has...
What he has is a possibility.
And he also was saying, and even if it's true, good luck proving that.
brendan schaub
No, you're screwed.
joe rogan
You're fucked.
You're fucked.
brendan schaub
Because all the commission knows is tyrannable or whatever the fuck it is.
joe rogan
I would like to find out from people who actually know whether or not this is possible.
brendan schaub
Creatine and cocaine?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Well, that I've heard is true.
I don't think I looked it up, though.
I think I heard it from other people.
jamie vernon
I just Googled it and saw it a bunch of places.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they used creatine and cocaine.
brendan schaub
It's bro signs, what we're doing.
That's what we're doing.
unidentified
That's what we're always doing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I have my masters in bro signs.
joe rogan
So see if it's proven that creatine tests positive for that stuff.
Because that would be very, very unique.
Pteranobol contamination in creatine.
Specifically creatine, apparently.
And a lot of the stuff that you get if you're buying vitamins, you're getting in bulk and you're getting them mixed places.
And we had issues, the early on batches of AlphaBrain, that they didn't contain all the stuff that it was supposed to and that it had some stuff that we didn't even put in there.
brendan schaub
It had traces of stuff?
joe rogan
So we had to change labs.
jamie vernon
Do you want to buy some right now?
joe rogan
Sure.
jamie vernon
We can buy some.
It's a dollar, one to five U.S. dollars per gram.
brendan schaub
What's it coming?
jamie vernon
Cholestible acetate raw steroids, tyrannibal, malaysia source, tyrannibal, creatine cycle.
brendan schaub
God damn!
How much is it?
jamie vernon
This is the very first thing that popped up.
brendan schaub
How much is it?
jamie vernon
Five bucks.
brendan schaub
That's the thing.
joe rogan
There's so much that they sell online that's bullshit, but I bet a lot of this stuff is real steroids.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
What is this?
I think if you've got some shit that's sort of legal, I bet you could sell it.
You'll test positive for it, but you could probably sell a lot of stuff.
brendan schaub
Dude, I've taken a lot of fucking supplements in my day, and I never flagged.
I mean, I've taken the GNC stuff that's like, extender, testosterone, nothing, ever.
unidentified
Hmm.
brendan schaub
And if you're John, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
See if...
What does that say?
Is that just showing you the supplement itself?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
See if you can find creatine contaminated with Tyranabol.
brendan schaub
See, that's what a lot of the baseball players get busted for.
jamie vernon
You can just buy it that way.
joe rogan
Yeah, but don't write Chinese creatine Tyranabol.
Just write creatine contaminated with Tyranabol.
Because apparently more than one person has tested positive In various sports, from creatine specifically.
brendan schaub
In baseball, shitload.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, creatine works.
I mean, it gives you a fat face, though.
It makes you swell up a little bit.
brendan schaub
The monohydrate doesn't.
There's three of them.
The monohydrate holds water.
joe rogan
Is that it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, so you retain a shitload of water.
joe rogan
You get a fat face.
Yeah.
You get thick, though.
brendan schaub
You get strong.
joe rogan
Real weight on this.
jamie vernon
This is from a forum, but it says there's 42 supplements that are sold at GNC that can trigger a positive test for Teranibol.
And at this point, this was in 2014, USADA had only found seven of them.
joe rogan
Were any of them creatine?
I'm going to have to look harder.
Did anything come up when you googled creatine contaminated with Tyranabol?
jamie vernon
That was the very first thing.
joe rogan
So one of any of those things are creatine.
See, that totally makes sense, man.
I mean, if you wanted to sell the creatine, that's the bomb.
Yo, my creatine make you gain mad weight, son.
brendan schaub
I'm buying it.
joe rogan
Yeah, for the regular dude who just goes to the gym and looks good on Tinder, I just want...
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, I just want to look swell, son.
Trying to slime them DMs with these fucking buys and tries.
joe rogan
Yeah, trying to slime them DMs with that Polo Costa body.
Yeah, you'll take some of that creatine monohydrate.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
No, creatine does work, though.
Like, as a legit supplement, that shit really works.
If you want to get, like, big and strong, creatine, son.
joe rogan
It's something.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You'll pull your hammy, but whatever.
joe rogan
It won't do what steroids can do, but it'll get you.
brendan schaub
Oh, no, you won't be Vitor or Uberm or Jon Jones in that bitch.
joe rogan
You'll definitely get stronger.
brendan schaub
100% get stronger.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's legit.
brendan schaub
But also if you eat a lot of red meat, preteens and red meat too.
So you're good.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've got this guy coming on his doctor who's a fucking, all he eats is red meat.
brendan schaub
That's it?
joe rogan
Sean Baker, yeah.
He's on a carnivore diet.
Does he look like shit?
No.
He's 50, he's jacked.
brendan schaub
Is he?
joe rogan
Does fucking sets of deadlifts, does box jumps.
brendan schaub
Is his skin purple though?
joe rogan
No, he looks like a tank.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't look like he's doing drugs at all.
brendan schaub
I'll look him up then.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of videos and pictures of him and shit.
I'm very curious to see.
I've never heard of anybody just advocating eating only meat.
brendan schaub
I've always heard the opposite.
I heard if you eat just red meat, like your cholesterol, your blood pressure, it's hard to break down in your body.
It's not the way to go.
I heard the less red meat is the way to go.
joe rogan
Mmm, that's not totally right.
Because most of what you get when you get high cholesterol, there's a lot of debate when it comes to high cholesterol.
But dietary cholesterol is apparently not a big factor.
Genetics are a big factor.
Sedentary lifestyle is a big factor.
brendan schaub
What about just digestion, all that red meat?
joe rogan
Yeah, that'd be hard.
I would wonder.
I would wonder.
But I wonder if, like, maybe it's not that hard.
Maybe it's the illusion.
I think there was a study that was done on red meat that was talking about what percentage of people got red meat or that ate a lot of red meat were likely to get cancer.
And the criticism of that study that I read that was really interesting said this study is not differentiating between what kind of meat you're eating.
It's not talking about eating steaks.
It's talking about just red meat.
So what are you eating with that red meat?
If you're eating red meat five times a week and you have a higher likelihood of cancer, it's entirely possible that you're talking about cheeseburgers.
It's entirely possible you're talking about fast food and bullshit and sandwiches and stuff with a lot of simple refined carbohydrates, a lot of trans fats, who knows what the You're not saying, oh, did you eat grass-fed beef or bison five days a week?
Or did you eat bullshit five days a week?
Did you eat a fucking sausage McGriddle?
Who knows what the hell's in that thing, right?
What are you eating with it?
Is it bread?
Are you eating it with pasta?
How often are you eating refined carbohydrates?
All these other factors could also be contributing to your heart attack.
And they might be the difference.
brendan schaub
But it's like one of those things gets put out there, and then it just stuck with me.
Like, fuck, I can't eat too much red meat, man.
It's hard to digest.
I don't want to look like Hulk Hogan.
joe rogan
I think balance is probably good for everything.
I think it's probably good to eat a lot of fiber.
You shit a lot.
That seems good.
Like when I eat a giant salad, I take massive dumps, and it comes out like a water slide.
unidentified
Like, woo!
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's what it's supposed to be like.
I want to hear what Homeboy has to say.
Maybe you can just eat red meat like a goddamn caveman and be great.
joe rogan
Well, he's doing it.
He gets all his vitamins from that, too, which is insane.
Really?
brendan schaub
He's taking supplements, for sure.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I would like to ask him.
I can't wait to talk to him.
I don't know if it's the right move.
But here's the thing.
The right move for you is not the right move for him.
It's not the right move for that dude out there.
Everybody's body's different when it comes to that.
And some people just react really well to all fish.
You were doing that for a while.
brendan schaub
I was going pescetarian.
joe rogan
How'd that go?
brendan schaub
About two weeks.
Just two weeks?
Well, a little bit.
Yeah, it's like, all right.
You know, I get bored of fucking fish.
I like to mix things up.
I like to challenge myself with diets.
But then sometimes it's like, I don't feel great.
I'm not doing it anymore.
I don't feel great doing that.
I gave it, to be honest, I gave it over four weeks pescetarian.
I was like, I don't feel great.
I'm sluggish in the morning.
I feel like I don't have a lot of energy for my workouts.
I'm not doing it anymore.
Then I add red meat and I feel better.
Add some carbs.
joe rogan
Get the meat back in the system.
Yeah, dog.
Dude, you've never even eaten elk yet.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Next time, I got the grill.
brendan schaub
You're giving out elk like fucking...
joe rogan
Come on, I'll give you some.
brendan schaub
All right.
joe rogan
The next time you're here, man, I'm on a grill.
I got a grill in the back.
brendan schaub
You're going grill?
joe rogan
Did you see the grill?
brendan schaub
No, I haven't.
Oh, you guys are doing campaign on Saturday, huh?
joe rogan
Can't make it.
I can't make it.
brendan schaub
You can't make it?
joe rogan
No, I can't make it.
brendan schaub
Yes, it makes me happy when you can't do it when I can't do it.
I hate being a hater.
But Callan texts me.
Or you text me and go, Companion Saturday.
I go, fuck, I'm in Nashville.
I'm like, maybe I should cancel Nashville.
joe rogan
I already had something that I promised I was going to do.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
I had to pull out of it.
brendan schaub
Family stuff?
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Take that.
joe rogan
Yeah, take that indeed.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Dude, I can't wait till the day we do only Fight Companions.
brendan schaub
That's going to be fun.
joe rogan
I'll do like one live event a year.
That's going to be my next contract.
brendan schaub
You just work at Mass Square Garden for the biggest card of the year?
That's exactly what you should do.
That would be amazing.
That's exactly what you should do.
joe rogan
That would be amazing.
brendan schaub
Can I say this without getting a lot of hate?
I'm sure I'm going to get hate from everybody.
And you performed at Mass Square Garden.
I don't get the big, like, hoorah with Mass Square Garden.
Like, it's old as fuck.
It doesn't look that cool.
unidentified
It's the Mecca.
brendan schaub
I know it's the Mecca.
I know, and everyone's sports, and the New York Knicks, everyone's shitting forever.
joe rogan
Have you ever been to Rome?
brendan schaub
Muhammad Ali hasn't fought there in forever.
Nah, I get it.
joe rogan
Do you been to Rome?
brendan schaub
I've never been to Rome.
joe rogan
Well, when you're in Rome, and you just walk in the Coliseum, you're like, holy shit.
The history.
And obviously the Coliseum has way more history.
That's what I want to see.
I want to see a fucking fight in the Coliseum.
That's what they should do.
Conor vs.
GSB. In Italy.
In the Coliseum.
brendan schaub
You're on to something there.
unidentified
You saw that bitch out.
brendan schaub
The pure MMA fighters list right now.
I fucking hate these two.
joe rogan
These two are assholes.
They only sell a thousand tickets and they only sell them in Saudi Arabia.
A million dollar ticket, yes.
brendan schaub
Just Dubai's up in that bitch.
joe rogan
China, Dubai.
It's all the ballers there.
Everyone's just covered in gold and shit.
Mr. Teague started kids.
brendan schaub
They just got whores lined up too.
joe rogan
Ferrari's pull-up.
Ferrari Lamborghini.
brendan schaub
That's it.
joe rogan
Lamborghini limousines.
brendan schaub
Caviar going through the aisles and shit.
joe rogan
Tuxedos.
Champagne.
P. Diddy changed his name for a fourth time.
Did you hear P. Diddy changed his name again?
brendan schaub
No, he didn't.
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
brendan schaub
To what?
joe rogan
Love.
jamie vernon
Brother Love.
joe rogan
AKA Brother Love.
brendan schaub
Hey, man!
You're fucking puffy to me.
joe rogan
I don't give a fuck.
He said he's not gonna respond to Puffy or Diddy or P Diddy or any of those monikers before, those previous monikers.
He goes, I don't feel like I'm the same person.
I'm not that guy anymore.
Which I feel all the time, but I'm stuck with my same fucking name.
Yeah, me too!
I like to change my name for that same reason.
brendan schaub
I don't like being known as The Fighter.
I like to change my fucking name.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What would you like to be?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
You should come up with something fresh.
unidentified
Like a rapper.
brendan schaub
I know, I need something cool.
joe rogan
If you're like a rapper.
brendan schaub
I need something cool.
Like, be smooth.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, be smooth.
joe rogan
Be laughing.
unidentified
And please welcome your host, Be Laughing!
joe rogan
Hey, I'll be laughing!
jamie vernon
This is Brother Love, by the way.
The OG Brother Love.
joe rogan
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Well, if you can do that, can you do that?
jamie vernon
You did it.
joe rogan
Well, that seems...
I'm going to call myself the Superfly.
brendan schaub
Dude, you can't do that.
joe rogan
I'll call myself Superfly like Jimmy Superfly Snooker.
That's my new name, bro.
Superfly.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm not mad at that.
joe rogan
Superfly.
brendan schaub
And you only answer Superfly?
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
None of my previous monikers.
brendan schaub
Bro, that's when you...
joe rogan
Sean Combs, I won't respond.
I'll respond to all the ones that Puffy won't respond to and Superfly.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
You can call me Puffy, P. Diddy.
brendan schaub
That's when you know you just don't have the right people around you.
You can just change your name and won't answer anything else.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
brendan schaub
Oh, hell no.
joe rogan
Do you think he was just high as fuck?
Because he seemed so high, he seemed scared to talk to the camera.
Pull up the video.
brendan schaub
He seemed scared to talk to the camera?
joe rogan
Yeah, because I know when I get so high that I'm scared.
I love Brother Love's skin tone.
Amazing.
brendan schaub
God, what is the red?
Powerful red.
joe rogan
He's on the beach and he's got like a white hat on.
Like a straw hat.
brendan schaub
And it's him announcing he's changing his name?
joe rogan
That's it.
Give me some volume.
brendan schaub
Hashtag take that.
joe rogan
Give it to the...
Play it for the beginning.
unidentified
Serious news.
I've been praying on this and I decided...
brendan schaub
Are you praying on this?
unidentified
I know it was risky because I knew it could come off as corny to some people.
Like, yo...
I decided to change my name again.
I'm just not who...
brendan schaub
You're so serious.
unidentified
I am...
Before, I'm something different.
So my new name is Love, aka Brother Love.
I will not be answering to Puffy, Diddy, Puff Daddy, or any of my other monikers, but Love or Brother Love, okay?
It's my birthday.
I feel good.
God is the greatest.
I give all glory, and I thank my mama and daddy.
brendan schaub
What the fuck is he smoking?
joe rogan
Amazing.
Play it again.
unidentified
Play it forever.
brendan schaub
That was kind of great.
joe rogan
Play it forever.
He's so high, he's barely alive.
brendan schaub
It's serious news, though.
joe rogan
He's been praying on it.
unidentified
Powerful Gucci shirt.
joe rogan
Dude, my car off is corny.
Do you think he comes off as corny?
brendan schaub
Nah, it feels impure.
unidentified
I decided to change my name again.
Aw, dawg.
joe rogan
I decided to change my name again.
brendan schaub
Dead serious, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's going on, man?
I got some serious things in my life.
My girl's breaking up with me.
unidentified
Dude, did he walk back in there and everyone's like, bro, you changed your name?
joe rogan
Yo, you changed your name again?
Like, he's on vacation somewhere playing golf.
It's like, this edible kicked in.
I'm going to go back here and change my name.
brendan schaub
I bet he thought about it for a long fucking while and was like, I'm gonna do it.
joe rogan
You can see his hand holding up the phone.
That's hilarious.
When you zoom in.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
See his hand holding up his phone, talking to his phone.
brendan schaub
I think sometimes you just smash life in every lane that you just become a little crazy.
joe rogan
Hashtag take that.
brendan schaub
Hashtag take that.
joe rogan
Hear that?
Take that.
brendan schaub
Take that.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Seems like an odd choice.
But hey, why not?
Fuck it.
He did it twice.
Do it again.
brendan schaub
I was in a gym in Hollywood and he came in and wanted to work out midday.
He wanted everyone to leave.
joe rogan
Oh, that's adorable.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Good luck getting me out of there.
However, he let me stay for whatever reason.
I don't know.
Maybe because I look like I was going to put into a fight.
But he came in there with a truckload of bitches.
joe rogan
Did he?
And he was working out with all these girls, dancing around him.
brendan schaub
I was nervous too around him.
joe rogan
Hell yeah.
brendan schaub
He's about to do some Kevin Spacey shit to me or something.
I don't know.
I was nervous.
joe rogan
Were you really?
brendan schaub
I was a little nervous.
Hell yeah.
He had his whole team around.
They did shut down the gym.
joe rogan
I was on the bike looking all cute.
They kicked everybody out.
brendan schaub
A lot of people have to bounce that bitch, yeah.
joe rogan
So they told people, hey, I know you paid for your dues and you're a member here, but that doesn't matter because this guy means more to us than you do.
brendan schaub
Basically.
That's fucked up.
Private gym.
Private gym.
joe rogan
Oh, it was a private gym?
brendan schaub
Private gym.
And they're like, yo, we need you to get out because P. Diddy's here.
joe rogan
Private gym?
brendan schaub
I said, I got 10 minutes.
unidentified
What kind of private gym is that?
brendan schaub
I ain't going nowhere, bitch.
joe rogan
What kind of private gym is that?
brendan schaub
It was a private gym for high-level athletes and celebrities, yeah.
I don't want to give the gym off because I don't want to shit on them for this.
unidentified
Sounds gross.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
I just can't believe they would kick.
Like, why?
He can't work out with people?
brendan schaub
He didn't want people in there.
I don't know.
Maybe he's super weak on the bench or some shit.
He had like 25s on there.
joe rogan
He's like, I can't let bitches see this.
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
unidentified
Right there.
brendan schaub
He said, try new calf raises.
Just do some bullshit workout.
That's what happened.
He's about to do some fucking jazzercise shit.
He didn't want anyone to see it.
joe rogan
All he does is that abductor adductor machine where it looks like you're squeezing your pussy together.
Just some straight nonsense all day, bro.
By the way, that shit is phenomenal for your guard.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
That abductor adductor thing for your sweeps.
unidentified
The Susan Sarandon shit?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Susan Sarandon?
joe rogan
I forgot her name.
What is her name?
jamie vernon
Yes!
brendan schaub
Dude, I used to jack off to her videos when I was a kid.
She was bad as fuck!
joe rogan
Yeah, but she had the spring that you push with your pussy.
brendan schaub
That shit was legit though.
joe rogan
The Thighmaster.
Yes!
Was it real?
Does it really work?
If you sell a Thighmaster, you should have to show your thighs.
brendan schaub
Let's see what we're working with.
Dude, she was hot as fuck back then.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah, she was pretty hot.
She was one of the classic stories in Hollywood of negotiations gone sideways.
She was one of the big stars of Three's Company and there was some sort of a negotiation that didn't go well and they removed her from the show.
I don't know if she wound up quitting or she wrote out the contract, but at one point in time, the thing had gotten so bad that she was only appearing on the show on the phone.
She'd be like on the phone calling in.
brendan schaub
What the hell?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It was weird.
And then they replaced her.
They replaced her with a new girl.
brendan schaub
Damn!
She tried pulling a ball and move and Hollywood was like, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't remember the full details.
I want to say that it was like a manager decided they were going to play hardball with the network because it was a big hit show.
brendan schaub
That's when Roger worked a shit of Hollywood.
unidentified
Here it is.
joe rogan
The crazy story of how Suzanne Somers was fired for asking for equal pay on Three's Company at the peak of her fame in 1980. So I guess John Ritter was probably raking in all the cheese with, son.
brendan schaub
All the cheese!
Can you imagine if they made Three's Company in today's society?
No way he gets greenlit.
joe rogan
I did an episode of News Radio with John Ritter.
brendan schaub
Was he awesome?
joe rogan
He was a super nice guy.
Like, weirdly nice.
And people always say that about him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, people say great things.
joe rogan
Genuine nice guy.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about your boy on your show House of Cards, Kevin Spacey?
They say he's super screwed, screwed.
joe rogan
Well, you hear what they were saying about the actual set?
That he would just be grabbing guys' dicks in the set and cornering them?
brendan schaub
God, dawg, just the ultimate dick diver.
Just relax!
joe rogan
Well...
Here's a little insight into that.
His brother did an interview where his brother was talking about, I think, his dad raping his brother.
Like, really heavy-duty shit.
And his brother is dressed like Rod Stewart in the 1970s with crazy hair and some yellow leather jacket with rings on and shit or something.
Like, just crazy fashion.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he lost his shit.
joe rogan
And you're like, what is going on?
And you realize, oh...
These two probably come from an extremely sexually abusive household.
And he was talking about how he thinks that...
And I don't know if this is pre or post allegation.
Because I literally only watched like two minutes of it.
I read a little bit of it and I watched two minutes of it.
And then my little fucking chipmunk brain was like, next thing please.
brendan schaub
See ya.
joe rogan
But he was talking about how he thinks that Kevin Spacey became an actor because he hated his life and hated what he experienced growing up so bad.
brendan schaub
He wanted to be someone else.
joe rogan
He wanted to be someone else.
brendan schaub
God damn, was he good at it.
joe rogan
He was an amazing actor, but I don't think his brother was – I don't know if they even addressed his sexual abuse allegations.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Because I didn't really get into it.
brendan schaub
That's some heavy shit.
joe rogan
Dude, scary shit.
That it went on for so long.
This Harvey Weinstein shit is scary, too.
You know what I found?
You want to see something crazy?
Here, I'll send it to you, Jamie.
brendan schaub
I'd like to see something crazy.
joe rogan
I found some shit from 1947. Hold on one second.
brendan schaub
How ugly are all these sexual predators, too?
They're hideous.
You're not going to see my boy Costa getting accused of sexual...
Salt.
You don't need to.
joe rogan
They are hideous, but it seems like this was what they did in Hollywood.
brendan schaub
It's the culture, right?
These guys are products of the environment.
joe rogan
I'm going to send this to you right now, Jamie.
Would you be able to put this up?
jamie vernon
It's a text.
Or email?
joe rogan
Yeah, a text message.
jamie vernon
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Okay, here, I'm going to send it to you.
Because this is crazy.
This is from this woman in 1947. And she was talking about this very thing.
jamie vernon
This is the Kevin Spacey thing.
joe rogan
What is it?
jamie vernon
It's from his brother.
It says, the price of betrayal and deviancy, how an abusive childhood at the hands of a vile Nazi father turned Kevin Spacey into a, quote, monster whose life was a lie.
joe rogan
Wow.
Damn, man.
Kevin Spacey was born.
Kevin Fowler grew up with a Nazi-supporting father.
Older brother Randy recalls being sexually abused by father Thomas, aged 14, while mother Kathleen turned a blind eye.
brendan schaub
Oof.
Listen, obviously what he did is horrible and he's a monster, but God, man, you feel bad for it.
joe rogan
You do feel bad.
Jamie, look at that text that I sent you.
This was...
Again, this is from 1947, and it was Maureen O'Hara.
And she charged Hollywood producers and directors with calling her a cold potato without sex appeal because she refuses to let them make love to her, says the Mirror, New York correspondent.
She says, in quotes, I am so upset with it that I am ready to quit Hollywood, Maureen says.
It's got so bad, I hate to come to work in the morning.
I'm a helpless victim of Hollywood's whispering campaign because I don't let the producer and the director kiss me every morning or let them paw me.
They have spread word around town that I... Something not a woman am am not a woman, then I'm a cold piece a marble Statuary hmm Wow Jesus Christ, man.
brendan schaub
So that's that that just shows you How long it's been going on that this is probably what they always did these fun There's so many more monsters like it.
These guys are the product of the machine.
joe rogan
Oh Well, yeah, I mean, if you're an intern and you grew up seeing that, and then you become some sort of a studio head, and then you see that everywhere around you, and then you're doing it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's literally the product of the environment.
It's like that's the nature of the business, which is horrible to say.
And now it's finally out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Kevin Spacey thing is crazy.
It's crazy because it's all like a lot of 14-year-olds that he was...
brendan schaub
Grabbing their dick.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
brendan schaub
And then you see Harvey...
Fucking Harvey Weinstein just looks like pure shit.
He tried going in a disguise at a sports bar or some shit.
unidentified
You see this?
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did.
Sir, you are six, five, 300 pounds out of shape.
Your face is everywhere.
joe rogan
He tried to go into a sports bar with a disguise.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
There's a picture of him at a bar and people are like...
You shitting me?
Like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
He really thought he was gonna sneak in?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's like the mountain from Game of Thrones sitting at a bar.
We're like, no, well, no, everyone knows what the fuck you look like.
Look at this.
joe rogan
He wigs out.
jamie vernon
He's wearing a wig and makeup.
joe rogan
Let me see it.
brendan schaub
Phoenix Restaurant.
joe rogan
I can hardly see that.
jamie vernon
I mean, it's hard to see.
joe rogan
You sure that's him?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's him.
joe rogan
That picture, yeah, but that picture looks terrible.
brendan schaub
That's a horrible picture, but that's him.
joe rogan
It's hard to tell.
brendan schaub
He's been in the Phoenix area where he's completed a one-week outpatient rehab program.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
So crazy.
brendan schaub
Bitch, you can't put a hat on and a wig and think we won't notice.
Dark shit, man.
joe rogan
Right above it, it said Johnny Depp to sell homes to pay debt.
brendan schaub
I still love that guy.
joe rogan
He just goes off.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's just going crazy.
joe rogan
Imagine as much money as that guy made.
He's still just spending it.
Could lose homes to repay $5 million loan.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Just sell one home, son.
joe rogan
But that's not good.
That means he doesn't have $5 million to pay a loan.
And he has like 14 houses he owns.
brendan schaub
Hey, Disney, better strike up another party.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if you went on just a hurricane ride of cocaine for like 17 years, and all of a sudden you woke up, and you're like...
I go, what?
brendan schaub
How many houses?
joe rogan
Who fucking let me buy all these houses?
brendan schaub
18 houses?
Are you shitting me?
joe rogan
I wonder why he's suing his business manager.
He's like, you knew I was on coke!
You let me buy 14 houses when I was on coke.
God damn it.
Poor bastard.
brendan schaub
Hey, man.
joe rogan
How many years after retiring from boxing has Foyd Mayweather broke?
brendan schaub
Ten?
Five.
joe rogan
Probably five.
unidentified
Five.
joe rogan
Does he mean a comeback fight at like 46?
brendan schaub
No.
None of that ships out.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Comeback fight at 46. Nah, it's just too sad.
brendan schaub
His ego's too big.
And the market's not there anymore.
joe rogan
I think he tries to talk Conor McGregor into a rematch.
I'm not kidding.
brendan schaub
Did you see Conor's statements about that?
joe rogan
No, what'd he say?
brendan schaub
He said, I'd beat him in a rematch.
Adorable.
Yeah, I know.
It's like, goddammit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Come on.
joe rogan
Well, he would have to do something extremely different in his training.
brendan schaub
No, it's just not.
He's never beating Mayweather in a boxing match.
joe rogan
Well, he didn't even look like he was punching him hard, right?
It looked like he clipped him with that one hard uppercut, but it looks like he was pacing himself and saving his energy.
brendan schaub
It's just not the way to go.
I get what he's doing, but it's just not the way to go.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you're making $100 million, it's $100 million.
If he could sucker people into doing it again for $100 million...
brendan schaub
Well, what do you think the UFC is going to have to do to get Conor back?
Because Conor had his movie premiere, which I guess destroyed the box offices in Ireland.
I don't know how many premieres they have out there, but it's the biggest, most successful Irish movie of all time.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, which is crazy.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
brendan schaub
They asked him, what do you have to do?
He goes, oh, I don't have bosses anymore.
We have to be partners, which is a legit point.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a legit point.
He's a different business entity.
But I think part of the point is going to be that he can't talk about it.
unidentified
I agree.
brendan schaub
I think the deal is going to happen, and then you're just like, no, I'm finding a normal contract.
Because UFC's like, yeah, we get it, bitch.
We're going to give you some money.
joe rogan
There's also the issue, if you're negotiating, that you go public with this negotiation like that.
You don't want to talk about that.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
I mean, I guess he does for his brand, because it makes him look like a super baller.
They've got to pay Conor now.
unidentified
They can't just fucking keep him on the same deal that they had before.
brendan schaub
God, do you trust Conor not to say anything?
joe rogan
Well, for Conor, part of his thing is disclosing it.
It's part of his swagger.
It's how much money he's making.
brendan schaub
It's what makes him Conor McGregor.
He's beating the game, which is why we like him.
We've changed the game.
joe rogan
It's got to be parody now.
It can't be the old deal.
It can't be the old deal.
brendan schaub
So you think they give him a part?
joe rogan
I think if I was the UFC, I would do what it takes to be in the Conor McGregor business.
Now, I don't know what that means because I don't know shit about business.
brendan schaub
It means you're giving up a percentage of your company.
joe rogan
I think you gotta give up a percentage if you want a percentage.
Okay?
94% like this movie.
jamie vernon
It's out Friday.
joe rogan
Fucking amazing.
It's fucking amazing.
unidentified
94%.
brendan schaub
It's out Friday in all the movie theaters here?
jamie vernon
I don't know about all, but I think a lot of them probably.
unidentified
Find those fucking 6% piece of shite.
joe rogan
Chase them through the streets of Dublin.
brendan schaub
Just 6% of Nate Diaz fans?
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that about?
Who are these 6% fucking haters?
Super haters, right?
brendan schaub
Pure haters.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
brendan schaub
So you're not getting the Nate fight then if Tony and Conor fight.
joe rogan
Say that again?
brendan schaub
You're probably not getting the Nate fight anytime soon if...
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Because Conor's team says too that Tony's the next fight.
Like his management says that and Dana says that.
So what do you do if you're Nate?
joe rogan
I think they don't want to do a Nate fight.
brendan schaub
Who does?
Connor does it?
joe rogan
I think they think Nate is a big fucking guy.
He's long.
He's a rough fight.
brendan schaub
Rougher than Tony Ferg?
joe rogan
I think they're both rough fights.
brendan schaub
Neither one of them is a fucking walk in the park.
joe rogan
But after coming off of that real hard fight with Nate, maybe he thinks Tony's easier to hit.
brendan schaub
Well, he hit Nate a lot, too, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did hit Nate a lot.
brendan schaub
And it's at 55, but plus, which is going to get more...
What's going to get more hype?
unidentified
Nate.
joe rogan
I agree.
I agree.
brendan schaub
If Eddie was here, he'd argue different.
joe rogan
He'd be going crazy.
brendan schaub
Tony's a star!
He's a superstar!
I went, Eddie, you've got to relax.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But, you know, Eddie trains him.
I totally understand.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
I'd be saying the same thing.
joe rogan
I honestly want to see each fight equally.
I really do.
I don't have a favorite.
I would love to see Nate and Conor go at it again.
I would love to see Conor go at it with Tony.
I literally do not have a favorite.
I love both of those fights.
brendan schaub
What happens if you get one fight out of Conor?
Conor goes, I'm only fighting once.
I'm going to let Joe Rogan be the guy who decides.
You got Tony, Nate, or GSP. Tony.
joe rogan
Because we haven't seen him fight Tony before.
We've seen him fight Nate twice.
GSP is such a long shot.
It's a different weight class.
It's 170. GSP had talked about going to 55 at one point in time.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
That would take a long fucking time.
brendan schaub
From the people who I know who are...
Super close with George.
What they want is Woodley and then a super fight with Connor.
That's their game plan.
joe rogan
Why do they want Woodley?
brendan schaub
70 champ?
You're not going to vacate 85?
85 doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
Dangerous fight.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, but they're all dangerous.
joe rogan
All dangerous.
Everybody wants 70 is a monster.
brendan schaub
That's just unrealistic.
That ain't happening.
70 makes more sense.
joe rogan
But look at what Dana said.
Don't call him a liar.
I'll call him right now.
Did you say he's a liar?
He said, Robert Whitaker.
brendan schaub
Here he hates me anyways, so he can't get any worse.
So I don't give a fuck.
But I think he has to say that.
There's a lot of things where, you know, he's a, listen, I know he's your friend, but he's also a promoter.
He's the best promoter in the game.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
So he has to say certain stuff so there's just not a Wild West.
joe rogan
Maybe George really wants to fight Robert Whitaker.
It's entirely possible George really likes it at 185. Who knows?
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Not happening.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
I'll take it.
It's not like Dana's word is Bond here where he hasn't said Atlanta shit before to hype a thing.
joe rogan
Let me ask you this.
What do you rather see?
Do you rather see him versus GSP versus Robert Whittaker or GSP versus Woodley?
brendan schaub
God, that's a great question.
joe rogan
I got my answer.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Whitaker, right?
It's so fucking exciting because Whitaker can knock his ass out.
joe rogan
He can knock anybody out.
And he's aggressive and he's very technical.
His striking is fucking wicked.
He's wicked.
brendan schaub
What would I rather see?
Yeah, I'd rather see Whitaker GSB. If I'm on GSB's team, he's fighting Woodley.
Really?
Whitaker ain't a fun fight for him.
joe rogan
I don't think either fight's a fun fight for anybody.
brendan schaub
Neither is fun, but at 85, there's a lot.
His stamina, there's a lot.
It's just not fun for him.
joe rogan
Well, it's interesting because Robert Whitaker, the 185-pound interim champ, used to be a 170-pound fighter as well, and he was stopped by Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
But he was draining himself to make 170. And Brittiger, again, we're talking about a 26-year-old guy who, when he changed weight classes, was probably only 23. Yeah.
Right?
Was it about three years ago?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
His last loss, right?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah, he just couldn't make the weight.
He's just training himself.
brendan schaub
And it's hard to make weight when you're older.
joe rogan
And he's pretty fucking stout at 185 pounds.
I mean, he's not a small 185. He's the fastest 85 in the world.
Were you shocked by Mousasi?
The Mousasi fight?
Do you think that shows you how good the Bellator guys are?
brendan schaub
Yes and no.
I do.
I think Bellator's at a level.
Certain guys are at a level, but I think Musashi, if he hears the interview, and he was actually pretty funny in it, but he was like, I had one fucking eye, man.
I literally had one eye.
He closed my eye up, so I was just going off instincts, and Shomenko's very tough, man.
joe rogan
Very tough.
brendan schaub
So I have one eye.
He's tough.
That's what you get.
joe rogan
Yeah, he caught him with one big...
Clangor.
brendan schaub
But he was pulling the Brandon Vera where he was like, before he even got there, he was like, I'm going to be champ at middleweight, lightweight, heavyweight.
I'm like, whoa.
joe rogan
I think everyone's going to go thug Rose now.
I just want to be a good person.
brendan schaub
God, you can't do that.
unidentified
I just want to be a good person.
joe rogan
I want to be myself.
brendan schaub
You can't do that, can you?
unidentified
I'm going to kick your ass.
joe rogan
And she's like, our father won heaven.
brendan schaub
That was some scary shit.
We only got room for one Rose.
joe rogan
But she did it, though.
brendan schaub
I know, man.
joe rogan
I'm very happy.
brendan schaub
Me too.
That left hook was filthy.
joe rogan
That was one of the most intriguing fights on the card to me.
brendan schaub
Again, I've known Rose, and we have a history in Denver, and we have the same coaches, and I love Rose, and I bet on her just because she's such a big underdog.
And I predicted, I thought she was going to be in a lot of trouble because Joanna's just so goddamn technical.
But I think Joanna didn't respect her.
She kind of overlooked her.
That championship...
You know, those obligations you have as a champion, I don't think people realize what comes with that.
You know, a lot of people go, yeah, I think it was Dana said this, or it was Ron, like, everyone wants to be a champ, so you have to do championship shit.
Which, you gotta sell the fight.
You're the reason why the pay-per-view is selling.
There's a lot that comes with that.
And it's, George retired because of it.
He's like, dude, I can't relax, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, we don't get to see it very often, too.
We don't get to see it.
We see little clips here and there, but we don't know what their schedule's like.
All the phone calls they have to make, all the interviews they have to do.
brendan schaub
Connor talked about it.
Remember, he backed out when they wanted to do that fight.
He's like, no, fuck me.
I'm not doing all that media.
joe rogan
That's right.
brendan schaub
You guys are killing me.
joe rogan
They pulled him from the car.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He was like, cool.
I don't give a fuck.
I need to train.
You guys are having me do all this media circus stuff.
I've got to focus on the fight, man.
And they put him through more injuries than anyone ever.
And that motherfucker's never met a camera he doesn't like.
And think about it.
He was like, no.
No, I'm going crazy.
joe rogan
Remember when him and Aldo, they did that world tour?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Nuts, man.
That world tour was crazy.
And then the Floyd Mayweather tour.
That schedule was nuts, and I was just the commentator on that bitch.
I was exhausted.
joe rogan
Yeah, how crazy was that tour where they would stand in front of everybody and talk shit?
brendan schaub
I told them after two cities, it'd be tough for the best comics in the world to come up with new material six nights in a row.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Let alone these two fighters.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like the first two cities you saw, they had their shit together.
It was fun.
Then after that third one, I was like, what are we doing?
joe rogan
What do you think?
Were they selling tickets to that or they were giving it away for free?
brendan schaub
I think they were giving them away, but it was...
I've never seen some shit like that ever.
joe rogan
You were there live, right?
How many different ones did you go to live?
brendan schaub
I went to all of them except for London.
joe rogan
How many were there?
brendan schaub
I went to, let's see, I went to Los Angeles, New York, and Toronto.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
And then they did London.
Damn.
And the biggest, Toronto, I've never seen anything like it, man.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Never.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
People hanging off the rafters to get a piece of him.
It was nuts.
Scary shit.
joe rogan
There's no one like him.
unidentified
It's weird.
joe rogan
There's a lot of great fighters right now, but there's no one that has the same enigmatic persona, this fucking quality that makes everybody want to be around them.
No one on the planet.
There's no one even a close second.
brendan schaub
There's never been a close second, has there?
joe rogan
Nah.
No, as far as popularity, he's the biggest combat sports athlete ever, because who else could go from one sport to the next the way he did?
brendan schaub
No, it was just perfect timing, perfect style, but the talent right now at 55 and 70, again, I was looking at 70, I'm like, oh my god!
The UFC is operating at such a high level talent-wise, it's nuts.
In certain divisions, other divisions, it's Jesus Christ, we need some life.
joe rogan
Do you think you could ever talk George into fighting Conor?
brendan schaub
100%.
I'm telling you, Joe.
joe rogan
Do you think that could happen at 170?
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, when I tell you my guys who are super close to George, their plan is Woodley Conner.
Now, a lot has to happen, and these guys are...
You know me, brother.
Hey, man.
joe rogan
Woodley Conner.
If George comes back and beats Tyron Woodley, first of all, that would cement him as the GOAT. He's the GOAT already, let's be honest.
Coming back at 36 and winning the middleweight title, moving up 15 pounds.
Finishing him, 15 pounds.
Putting him to sleep.
But it's still, like, that's accomplishment GOAT versus, like, technique GOAT. Technique GOAT is Mighty Mouse.
brendan schaub
Who's Mighty Mouse fighting?
joe rogan
Nobody like that.
brendan schaub
We always go through this.
joe rogan
Nobody like that.
brendan schaub
Look at George's resume.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And you're talking about non-USADA days.
joe rogan
It's true.
brendan schaub
When it was the wild fucking west.
joe rogan
Well, that's...
brendan schaub
Creatine, what?
joe rogan
That's a question, too.
brendan schaub
Least of our worries.
joe rogan
That's a question, too.
brendan schaub
They were snoring creatine in the bag.
joe rogan
I've got to wrap this up.
Tell everybody where you're going to be.
brendan schaub
This week, let's see, Thursday I'm in Charlotte.
Friday, Saturday, Zany's in Nashville.
joe rogan
Killing it on the road!
brendan schaub
Yeah, son.
joe rogan
Sunday night.
brendan schaub
Sunday night, Columbus.
Charlotte, Nashville, Columbus.
Let's do this!
DFATK.com.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm at the Ice House Friday night.
Pasadena, two shows, 8 and 10. Almost sold out.
Holla.
brendan schaub
I love the Ice House.
joe rogan
It's the best.
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