Owen Benjamin and Joe Rogan clash over performative cultural identity, like Sean King’s hashtags, while critiquing systemic biases—Rogan highlights Jack Johnson’s racism-fueled trauma versus delayed justice for predators. They debate false accusations, urban policing, and wage gap myths, dismissing rigid labels like "rape culture" as oversimplified. Benjamin’s humor, even on sensitive topics, sparks tension with Rogan over satire’s limits, ending with a sober reflection on free speech, societal outrage, and the blurred lines between accountability and biological development. [Automatically generated summary]
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Ladies and gentlemen, my guest today is the great and powerful Owen Benjamin.
He's a loose cannon, and I thought he'd be the perfect guy to bring in for the first ever podcast that I did right after I got done with Sober October.
Sobriety was fun.
It was awesome.
I enjoyed it.
But I think I'm better as a podcaster when I'm not sober.
So enjoy.
We had a good time.
We spoke about some very deep and powerful shit.
And he's just a fucking good dude.
Owen Benjamin is a good dude.
And one of the things that I really like about Owen is that he's one of the rare actual loose cannons in this world.
One of the rare in the comedy world.
Everyone is so worried about protecting their career.
I don't know anybody in LA that could tell me that where I wouldn't call the police and say, I don't know why the fuck he's swinging an axe, but please check.
Jamie and I have been talking about it openly because you've got some new bathrooms for the studio that have those Japanese toilets that shoot hot water up your butt.
Oh, yeah.
And they're warm.
So you sit in the toilet, it's heated like right away.
It's like a warm, comforting, like, come in, come in and shit.
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Come in and just release, relax those bowels and let it go.
Sometimes I'm disturbed, though, after it shoots hot water up my ass for five minutes, and then I use toilet paper and white it down, and still I see poo.
I saw some dude on TV that got hit, no, on the internet, rather, a video clip of someone who, the guy in front of him, he was a catcher, and the guy in front of him just barely clipped the ball and it careened perfectly into his nutsack.
And you see this fastball, this hard fastball, just target his nutsack and bang.
And even though it's like an animated gift that's only a couple seconds long, as soon as that ball hits the ground, you see his body just giving like, no.
Folks, if anybody, if you have like back soreness, and like especially if you don't want to pay someone to massage you, if you can take the pain, you can do it yourself.
You take a lacrosse ball or we have those other balls.
If that guy, I mean, there's guys that are probably like just fucking aces at that shit, but they can't go into the NHL or the, I mean, there's nothing there for them.
I played since I was so young, and it's so fast that you can't possibly think.
And so then, like, sometimes I'll forget the way like a box song's going, and it's almost like that South Park with Cartman, like you have to start from the beginning.
Yeah, I think what's super important is that you made a real good distinction, that you try not to be cruel.
And I exactly, I do too.
And sometimes you miss, right?
And that's another thing about this working without a net shit.
Boy, sometimes you miss.
Sometimes you say something you shouldn't have said, especially in live shows.
You try, you just, the impulse comes into your mind and you go for it.
But under careful consideration, if you sat down and thought about it for a few minutes, you're like, oh, no, I can't do this bit because of this and that.
What if people misconstrue?
What if someone took it out of contest?
What if someone doesn't understand that this is what I'm doing?
I'm just pushing buttons to people who know I'm pushing buttons.
You have like they're in the game versus just random casualties.
And also, I think the outrage Ponzi scheme people, I don't even care.
I don't even care.
Like, I think a lot of people feign outrage because they don't understand, but they still want to retain power.
But then there's people that actually, like, I'll hurt them.
And that's when I'm like, oh no, did I, because my problem is every now and then I'll reverse virtue signaling where it's almost like I'll go farther intense than I normally would have because I'm trying to counteract virtue signaling.
And then I'm like, well, I'm throwing a punch at someone that other people don't even might not see.
I've been talking about that a lot about Trump, that I think that all these people attacking Trump in many ways, they actually kind of ramp up his behavior.
If PBR was really respected as some light ale from Germany, if you got a good batch of PBR, you're like, wow, it's got a weird sort of aluminum-y taste.
Like my wife, this is like, here, have some, because I usually come in, like if I get a little buzz, I'll come in, you know, and she wanted to hang and I'm out there just drinking and staring at a fire.
And she gave me this IPA called Dogfish, and it's 18% alcohol.
But like what you said about the gummy bears, it's like, yeah, it's almost like the false representation is the thing I don't like more than the representation itself.
And that's why I get like so pissed about certain scandals because someone's a hypocrite versus other ones where I'm like, oh man, I feel bad for that guy.
The way he came clean about all that stuff and just talked about how it all got away from him as like a social justice warrior and describing in like really honest and I think super brave the way he described like this charge that he would get after going after someone and calling someone a racist and getting other people to go after him and trying to get him fired.
We have a series, our brain is filled with like this series of reward systems that are in place, right?
Like there's a need for approval from the tribe.
There's the need for, you know, to sexually reproduce.
There's the need to accomplish tasks.
There's a need to avoid predation.
And we have all these reward systems, right?
Where like your body and your organism will reward you with a positive feeling for reinforcing some of the patterns of behavior that are necessary for survival.
Well, I actually think this is a very important point that I think a lot of us, it takes a long time to realize is that these reward systems that we have set up, right?
Like these patterns that feel good to follow through with, like, you know, the way we handle conflict and especially like the need to push yourself and stress yourself out, like some sort of physical way by exercise.
I really feel like that those things, like if you can help them, like if you could give them their fuel in a positive way, you don't get any of the negative aspects of it, but you get the positive aspects of it.
Because like, especially like the physical one.
I really believe this from my own experiences.
We all have physical requirements for movement.
And we don't give those physical requirements.
We don't feed the body correctly with those movements.
And what happens is it gets angst and it gets weird.
And your body gets freaked out and it starts getting fat.
It starts feeling like shit.
And one of the reasons why it's not functioning right is because we didn't properly manage movement, like making sure your body is getting exercise.
Like put some stress on it so that it can recover and be stronger and maintain a certain level of strength.
Because if you don't put any stress on it, it stops working.
And if it stops working, you start sagging and deteriorating.
And here's the big one.
Maybe you're an intellectual.
Maybe you don't want to have anything to do with physical stuff because you think of it as a base thing.
That fucking body has a giant influence on your mind.
And it is just a discipline issue and there's nothing else.
I'm not saying you should be a bodybuilder.
I'm not saying you should go out there and fucking run marathons or do anything even that are super stressful, but do some sit-ups, do some push-ups, do some chin-ups if you can, do some running up hills, pick up some heavy stuff, move it around and do it regularly.
Do it all the time.
And do it even if you have no desire whatsoever to look good naked.
It's not like they were, you know, like they were supposed to be that small.
Oh my God.
This guy's a giant.
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He stood about 5 foot, 8 inches tall, weighed 143 pounds.
You know, about how he learned to kill rabbits with his bare hands.
You know, how like he would explain to me, he'd snap a rabbit's neck and you're looking in the guy's eyes that didn't know whether or not members of his family would starve to death.
My grandfather was a very kind and gentle man, sort of belied like almost the rest of my family and his start in life because he, you know, he was born during a very, very, very difficult time.
And he was just a really kind man who liked to read books.
He was like the gentle one of my family.
That's so cool.
I lived with him when I was just moving to New York, when I had to leave Boston.
And I got a manager.
And my manager lived in New York, who I'm still with to this day.
And I was like barely out of the open mic days.
And I couldn't afford to live in New York by myself.
I tried to figure it out like how much money I had, like very little saved up.
And I basically just went to New York with my car and some clothes.
And my grandpa let me stay at his place.
And it was weird, man, because my grandmother was dying.
She had a stroke, and they gave her 72 hours, and she lived for 12 years.
And I was living with the two of them while that was going on.
So like while I was going this transition in my life, like the most exciting thing, like literally that's ever happened to me, I get this like real legit manager.
And I start thinking, maybe I can actually do this.
Like maybe I can actually be a comic.
Because like when I was living in Boston, I was like doing all sorts of other jobs.
And I was never like a professional.
I never had a full, like, I never had enough work where I could 100% be a comic.
And I'd only been doing it for like three years.
So I was just grinding, constantly grinding, doing a bunch of different day jobs.
And so when this opportunity came, I was like, holy shit, I can't believe this is real.
And as like my life was starting to go into this crazy place, I spent a good solid three months, maybe four, living with my grandfather while my grandmother was dying.
And that's where I lived.
So I'd come home with them and talk to them all the time.
And they lived in a neighborhood that used to be a predominantly Italian-American neighborhood in Newark.
But it deteriorated slowly but surely until it was like a really, it went from black people.
This is like, they did a thing called blockbusting.
I mean, that's, to me right now, like, that's so profound because like now that I'm like, I have a family and thinking about my wife and you watch the notebook and you're like, holy shit.
But like my best friend died on my birthday, like the year I was out here snowboarding.
And it was right as I got like punked and like the show punked.
And he like is the one who got me into stand-up.
And it was like, that was so bittersweet, man.
It was like, it was like the fragility of life as you're given this weird ego shot just was like, it was so intense.
He was a vet, and it was like, and you saw it coming, but it was tragic because his PTSD was so bad, but he was like, dude, his story was a, he was a D1 baseball player, had everything going for him.
His dad dies.
He wants to join the Marines.
He's unbelievable at being a sniper.
You know, they go through hell in Afghanistan.
He gets on heroin, ends up in my town.
We become like best friends, him with my brother, because like a lot of vets want to do tree work because they need that.
Every man needs a purpose, you know?
And it's like a lack of purpose for like true warrior hero types is death.
And so like that extreme nature of climbing up trees and hauling lumber and stuff, we'd all do it together.
And that's why you also like comedy because the honesty of it, you know, the dude shot tons and tons of people.
So it's like that feeling of constant judgment and guilt and pride and guilt.
Comedy was like a relief for him.
And then he just died of heroin, man.
It was like, you get this, because, you know, I got him a gym membership and all this shit.
And we were all like rooting for him because he's this beautiful man.
But like, there's just moral injuries that just can take a toll.
I think that's the case with Roman art as well, right?
I mean, why was there so much artistic expression back then?
Why were people so determined to put their emotions down on canvas?
Those emotions were like hurricanes swirling in your brain, visions of people getting cut in half by swords and arrows piercing sternums, and people choking you to death on their own blood and fucking hordes of barbarians coming over the top of the hill with horses swinging axes.
Like, whoa, that was real shit back then.
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And I'm like, someone with a boot check mark is mad at me.
And, you know, I've been thinking about this a lot lately with this Kevin Spacey thing.
Pedophilia is horrific.
We all agree.
It's terrifying.
It's so devastating because as we were talking about before, if someone gets shot, you could see the wound.
If someone gets raped by an actor when they're 12 years old, like, how do you fix that, right?
What is that?
What kind of psychic wound is that?
And what I was thinking is, it's really fascinating to me that we pretty much acknowledge that pederasts were commonplace in the 15th century, the 12th century, the 13th century, the 14th century, way, way into the 1800s.
And then when you go with the Catholic Church, I mean, it is, if you're Catholic, shut your fucking iPhone off right now.
They're all reading German and all these different languages.
Like when Martin Luther, have you ever heard the prophets of doom?
Dan Carlin is one of my favorite fucking human beings that's ever lived.
And his podcast, Hardcore History, is a national treasure because I've learned more about history and more about like the Mongols and World War I and fucking everything.
But his podcast on Martin Luther and the first literal translations of the Bible that regular common folk could read.
So think about 500 years in terms of the life of the human species is mere blip.
And one of the reasons why the Catholic Church was able to get away with just translating things to people where they couldn't read it is because that's how fucking everybody did it.
They all did it that way.
You would go to some place and some guy would tell you what the sacred stuff would be and you'd be like, okay, cool.
Like, how many people actually got a hold of it and read it all day and studied it and made sure there was no contradictions?
That was one of the things that happened, apparently.
There was a conflict.
I hope I'm not fucking this up.
It was from hardcore history.
There was a conflict where one of the earlier popes didn't want to send troops to fight Genghis Khan.
Like, there was a lot of confusion in the early days of Genghis Khan, because before If you heard it in the past, I apologize for repeating myself.
But the Wrath of Khan, Wrath of the Khan series of Dan Carlin's One of my favorite pieces of work, whether it's a comedy, a movie, one of my favorite creations ever.
He's like, I'm not a historian, but like, most of us think that the real, and then I'll just, the Anabaptists, you know, clearly when they purged God's wizard.
Yeah, I mean, that's what our job is, is to figure out a way to make the best people we can and raise those people so that those people are going to impact as many people as they can in a positive way.
And if this can be done, look, you got to realize that the people of today, we're basically biologically the same as the people that lived in the Genghis Khan days, but we couldn't be further apart in terms of the way we look at the world.
Think about how you are, how Jamie is, how most of the people we know are, and then think about Genghis Khan's mob of savages that were just eating people.
And your life was just pain and you wanted to inflict that pain on other people.
So you agreed to like, there was like, there's like almost like some sort of an evolutionary basis and staying as close to people as you can while agreeing with as little evidence as possible to murder them all.
Which is like, we're like witch trials.
And one of the things that freaked me out about Dan Carlin's history of the Mongols thing was he started talking about how there's speculation that decimation, like the term decimation came from like if there's a hundred, they would eat one of them.
The killing of one in every 10 of a group of people as a punishment for the whole group.
But that was just the punishment.
What Dan Carlin was talking about is there's some people, and maybe he doesn't agree with them, or maybe he does, but some people who believe it's possible that the Mongols did this practice in order to stay alive.
They would cut the blood, like cut an artery, fill like a jug with blood, and then they would milk them and mix the blood and the milk together and they would eat that.
Grizzly bears are specialized to adapt during warmer months to eat a massive amount of food so they can live off the body fat during the winter when food is scarce.
So yeah, they don't eat during the winter.
Most of the time, they just hibernate.
So they get like super, super fat.
But they may intake 40 kilograms, 90 pounds of food a day.
A kid got killed last year in Alaska during a road rage.
A kid was in a road race.
He was 16 years old and he was running and he called his mom to say that a bear was following him and he might be in trouble.
The bear killed him.
Oh man, so sad.
The bear, when the park ranger showed up, the bear was trying to shoo them away from his cache because he had buried the kid, pulled the kid's body into the forest and was covering it up with leaves and shit.
I'm not saying we should kill them all and make them extinct, but don't put them above people.
You're a goddamn crazy person.
If you think about your children, think about your mother, think about people that you love that could easily have been eaten by this bear and understand that these things are a consequence of the natural world that we engage with.
It's like what you were talking about with the people that used to have to break a rabbit's neck to, you know, like my uncle, my mom's brother, they were so poor that he used to hunt for their food.
And then he became wealthy.
And now he goes to Africa to hunt, you know, the Cape Buffaloes.
If you don't have to do that, you shouldn't do that.
But the only reason why you want to do that is we want to create some excitement outside of what you're actually doing to progress the life that you're living.
The instinct, the instinct to engage in that is all negative, you know?
And I think it goes back to that whole reward system thing.
I think in a lot of ways, we're very programmed to not just accept, but even seek out conflict and to be upset about things and to look for those things in the news.
Look for those things.
How often do you see conflict with humans?
If you see Manhattan, right?
And you see all these people that are driving their cars, walking, get on the bus, get on the train, the vast majority show no conflict with each other.
That's a stronger addiction because you're not even pretending you might get some productivity done.
Like if you're on your laptop and you got Microsoft Word opened and occasionally you check Twitter, like, what, bitch, you don't know shit about Beethoven.
Well, I think, I mean, this is very pretentious to say, but it is true.
I think that all of us who are having a chance to talk about our experiences in this life are influencing each other.
That includes you.
That includes everybody I know.
That includes Ari Shafir and Tom Segura and Duncan.
We're all influencing each other.
And we're all, in some way, helping each other mitigate all the weird influences that we experience.
And there's a big one.
The big one is our addiction to information, and that the addiction to information can overwhelm your ability to process the information.
Like if you're just reading shit about like world news and breaking news and all the craziness, if you're doing that all day while you're awake, like if you gave your phone, like if somebody had a phone and they had one of them Mopi packs so they can keep that bitch running and checking the internet all day.
At the end of the day, have you even taken the time to momentarily reflect about what any of this means?
Or are you just taking in, fucking guy with a truck killed bikers, you know, retweet, fuck that guy, fuck this guy, oh, Dustin Hoppins piece of shit too, retweet.
How much time are you spending where you're thinking about life, yourself, the world around you, what are the motivations for all this?
Like this kid that ran over these people in New York, what's his motivation?
Who is he?
Who did the most awful job ever of parenting this fucking monster?
Like, I've had bad moments in my life when I've made dumb decisions.
Owning up to those dumb decisions makes you a real character, like someone of real character to me.
I was going to say a real man, but it applies to women as well.
Like owning up to those fuck-ups is so goddamn huge.
And Jamie did it.
And I think we need to understand like when someone does do something like that, you got to stand up and fucking golf clap.
You got to.
You got to let people know that.
And there's a lot of other people that also could have these revelations and these moments and stand up and be real with you.
And then all of us would recognize those moments and those feelings in our own self.
And we can move on better.
We can move on better than we're doing.
What Jamie did by coming on this podcast and talking about his life as a social justice warrior and all the nuttiness that he was involved in and all the rules and regulations of what you could and couldn't say and how he knew it.
And even though he thought things were wrong, he couldn't express himself because it would be outside of the progressive doctrine that they had to all follow by.
That's giant, man.
That's giant for all of us because just like Jordan Peterson has expressed that we could all be Nazis if we were that person in that circumstance with those, you know, those stresses and pressures.
That's what terrifies us about all this stuff, that you could be that person.
That if you were born in Uzbekistan or wherever the fuck this terrorist was born that ran over these people, that if all the terrible things that happened to him happened to you, you could be that guy who's hitting that gas.
There's no difference between you and me and Jamie and everybody listening.
We're all just people.
And we're a combination of biology, we're a combination of life experiences and our community and our circumstances and what we've learned.
We have to recognize that instead of like trying to appear to have moral superiority over everybody above you because you haven't committed murder yet or you haven't run a red light where it wound up killing someone because you have an impulsive desire to get to work on time or you haven't drove home drunk because you made a mistake and your girlfriend left the party and you were fucking pissed and you got in your car and you plowed into a car.
All those things, we want to demonize people because we're scared to death of seeing those ideas in ourself or seeing those actions in ourselves.
Yeah, and that Soljanitson line, the line between good and evil is right down the middle of a person's heart, you know, that we have that none of us are just good or bad and we can't just proclaim someone as bad and us good unfairly.
Those are the people I root against.
It's not the flawed humans that make mistakes and just are human.
It's the people that demonize everyone but them and you see that they're almost just, it's projecting.
It's like the biggest homophobes, the gay guy, you know?
Yes.
and that's what gets me angry.
And it's like when you're trying to get social, like what happened to me with the, with the define that, that kid situation where it's like, Most people don't know the circumstances.
So there was this guy who had a three-year-old boy that he claimed is transgendered and identified as a girl and started putting dresses on the kid and treating him like a girl and was planning on giving him hormone therapy so they don't go through puberty.
And this dude has like power in Hollywood, you know, and I just called him out and I got swarmed and I just didn't stop because I'm like, I'll die on this hill.
And also it's like, I've always thought I was a good guy, but not like, I never thought I was like deserving of anything special, you know, but then once you see a kid, you're like, he's fucking pure still, man.
You know, I'm like, I've done some shit, you know.
So that's why I think just as myself younger, I wouldn't have been quite as like into, I've always stuck up for the underdog and people being abused and shit, but now I'm like, I have to be better for like the next generation because I see him look at me like humans can be good.
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He's like, dad, dad, dad, dad, you know, and I'm like, holy fuck, dad dad's a good guy.
Do you ever think about the fact that, and this is a conflict that I've discussed ad nauseum with some of my friends, that every one of my friends that I know came from a fucked up place.
Like all the people that I'm friends with whether it's Callan or Joey Diaz or anybody, Redband or Duncan, though their childhood was fucking chaos.
Because my mom listened to our last podcast and she was like, I love that you're friends with Joe.
Like you guys both have like, you're kind of fucked up, but good guys.
And where it's like you experience these like traumatic events and you experience damage, you know, and then you have paths in life and you're like, I'm going to seek the good in this, but we're still, you know, low impulse control comedians, but still, you know, we're not just killers.
Well, we're actually nice people, but we're realizing we're nice people in the middle of a life with a tremendous amount of momentum of chaos behind it.
It's like supporting transgender rights eclipses all the logic involved and the subtle nuances of human behavior and sexuality.
And the idea that a three-year-old could have any notion of like what it's going to be like to be eight or what it's going to be like to be 16 or whether or not hormonal changes are going to affect the way he expresses himself.
And also, you're looking at this kid and you're deciding that this kid, because they're three, is going to be transgender and you want to turn him into a girl.
What if this kid decides he's a gay man in five years?
Well, what if they decide that they're bisexual in 20 years?
You know, if you care about that child, you don't interfere with that process because I'm not the same thing that I was when I was three and you're not either.
No one is.
So to inject hormones and chemicals and even surgery, that we really have a very limited understanding about how much this interaction between a scalpel and a baby body, how much of the impact that has.
You're giving someone the green light?
They're talking about like making this kid a eunuch?
Yeah, I mean, who gives a shit if you dress like a girl?
What I give a shit is if you step in and you, in any way, interfere with the physical, sexual, biological development of a child because you think it's the right thing to do progressively, that you think it's the right thing to do, the right way to approach a fucking three-year-old.
Like, you are the problem.
You're my God.
We're not talking about one plus one equals two.
We're talking about a super complex, very nuanced issue.
And if this child decides when it's X amount years old, whatever we decide, 30, whatever the fuck we decide, to take the decision to get gender reassignment, that's 100% cool with me.
They have a great marriage, but it's like almost like a reverse gender marriage in a way where my dad's like a flamboyant opera singer, professor, and my mom, like 6'1, loves sports, wears sweatpants, you know.
Like my first bit was I was the only guy in the straight closet.
I used to be like, my dad would be like, let's go see Rent again, son.
Because if you just look at it in not in terms of like how a child should identify, but in terms of like the biological process of a developing human being, it's very, very touch and go.
We don't really understand what it is.
This is what you should try to do with a kid.
You should try to give them nutrients.
You should try to give them love.
You try to give them safety and try to give them challenges.
And this is super unpopular to say, but the bottom line, whether you decide to become a transgender person, whether you decide to just suppress those ideas, it is at this current stage of our understanding of medical science impossible to actually turn you into a woman.
And you've touched on body dysmorphia with like weightlifters, where it's like, you know, there's certain people that just aren't comfortable in their own skin and want to alter it like with like fucking whether it's bigger boobs or cutting their wiener off or some shit.
And as a very big personal liberty guy, I'm all about you doing that, but you don't make that decision for the kids.
But think about that, that you, as a guy who I've known for a long time, has been a successful professional comedian, are really always that close to being pushed aside and not given work anymore over something that's totally logical.
And I'm not going to explain to people who he is and what that whole story is because I don't know whether it's true or not, but I know what I've seen online and I know what a lot of like Milo exposed.
But if I was Rachel Dolezel right now, I'd be fucking pissed.
Because it all started because that dude poked at me because I had this bit that I want to be a progressive slave owner where I'm like, I'm like, the reason slavery is wrong is because it's only black people.
That's not right.
That's racism.
I want all the people.
And I'm like, if you can't outrun the nets and the harpoons, welcome to the club.
And that's a joke about the absurdity of certain progressive ideals.
Well, if I could be really honest about that, I saw that bit and I was like, I see your point, but I think that's like a first draft of an idea of like slave.
Now Sean King is cranking out a boatload of original tweets in a continued effort to dilute last week's hashtag trans black and hashtag wrong skin tweets.
Oh, so you got a bad response to him saying that tweeting about that whole thing for weeks going on into 2016 and a bunch of people.
You know, I don't give a fuck, man.
If you want to, I feel the same, literally the same way as you feeling that you are a woman or you feeling anything, anything.
But the real problem is like the insisting on that definition in a very specific manner that's disingenuous with your actual background.
Because everyone is essentially, we all came from Africa.
That was the original human beings.
And like we said before, being white is solar panels for vitamin D. That's all it is.
It's we moved to a place that had a lot of clouds and it wasn't anything like Africa.
And slowly, over who knows how many fucking years, people changed and you developed paler and paler skin.
And the irony is, is he's trying To get victim status when he's not part of a group, and because there is the reason American slavery is so fucking dark is because it was one of the only slave systems based on one race, right?
And that's why, like, Carlin did an unbelievable, everything's Carl, like, dude, Carlin's covered it.
He has a blitz episode called uh, Addicted to Bondage, Dan Carlin.
Sean King, I mean, he was a part of Black Lives Matter.
Obviously, he wanted to do good.
Obviously, he wanted to spread good ideas and help people, the people that he really identified with.
If those tweets are real, and I don't know what they are, hashtag wrong skin and hashtag transracial and all that stuff, then that's literally how he felt.
He didn't feel it because he hated those people.
He felt it because he identified with them and they were more attractive to him than what he actually was.
So if he just Paul Walled it and never said, I mean, Paul Wall, right?
The rapper with the grill.
I mean, isn't that essentially, he's a deep love of black American culture, right?
I mean, there's a lot of people that just be themselves and go in.
Just go in is what I appreciate more.
There's a lot of black people at golf clubs with fucking polo shirts on, right?
I think when I say they, it's annoying because it's like, of course, not all black people find it funny, but like that culture, that black, redneck, white liberal culture, where it's like, I'm from a culture that's more similar to American southern or urban black culture than a lot of the liberals calling me names.
And it's just this type of culture that bonds through shit talking, you know, like Boston, where it's like, if you talk shit, if someone's like, oh, your dad, your dad acts like a home.
I'm like, oh, my dad didn't kill himself, you know, and then you're frank.
Because it's like you've hit the darkest shit.
And then you're like, oh, we'll make it through a winner.
It's like, except for one issue I got a little piss in my town about because like this year, the winter carnival was going to be fiesta themed about Hispanics, but there's like the only Hispanics are my wife and child, you know.
And then they're like, oh no, we don't want to like be this.
But when you find out Jack Johnson's actual height, he was the heavyweight champion of the world, the first black heavyweight boxing champion of the world.
Just back it up just a hair so we can watch that again.
back at the time, this is a giant deal because Stanley Ketchell was a white guy, and they were like, finally, we got our black guy down on the ground, and it wasn't even a big white guy that did it.
You know, and everybody wanted Jack Dempsey to come back.
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They were still in denial at the point that, like, black people were...
But at the time when this was going on, to have a black heavyweight champion, I mean, I don't think we can even fathom the level of racism this guy experienced.
I feel like within 20 years, they're going to be like if you, if your hand got mashed in some sort of a vice, they're going to be able to give you a new hand.
No, but I think that I think that about myself a lot of times because I got hit in the head a lot when I was young.
And I'm like, well, how much did that affect me?
How much did affect my rational thinking?
How much did it affect my ability to control my impulses?
You know, like I was on a flight once with Michael Irvin.
And Michael Irvin, who's a really good guy, was talking to me about kids who grow up in terrible environments.
And that these kids, if they're in the womb, the womb, and their mother is experiencing violence or stress or domestic violence or, you know, she sees crazy shit, that those impulses go through her body and they directly affect the way the fetus develops.
And the children who grow up with violence around them, like literally they're conceived and they develop inside the womb of a mother who's experiencing all that, they have a higher propensity for violence, a shorter fuse.
They're more worried about things going badly and more intense, more quick to pull the trigger.
And that all that is a direct response, like a biological support system, like your body's trying to keep you alive.
And that the more you encounter, that sort of reinforces like the more times you get hit, the more times things hit you, the more times you get hurt, the more times you crash heads as a football player, or you get punched in the face as a boxer, the more times a tomato hits your fucking dome at 90 miles an hour by some kid who thinks it's funny.
But whatever it is, like whatever things that are rattling your skull, those things reinforce your brain's idea that violence can come at any moment and you have to be prepared.
It's like I knew a lot of girls that were like sexually abusive kids as kids that became promiscuous because they're like, I'm going to fuck you before you fuck me.
Well, there is that, but I think there's also something that happens to people that were sexually abused as kids where they become hypersexual as they get older for sure.
It's not good.
I mean, we're not looking at this in a positive way, but I think it goes back to what we were talking about when it comes to throughout history, human beings molesting children, that it was insanely common.
And it probably wasn't until like what year did people realize that's a horrible thing to do?
Like if guys talk about girls, like, you know, this girl is, she loves Coke and she's down to fuck.
Like, do you think they literally talked about abusing kids the same way a man would talk about, or a woman even would talk about hooking up with a guy?
Oh, God, he's got a big dick.
It's going to be awesome.
Do you think they talked about it in an openly sexual way?
Like he would always go after kids that didn't have a family and he would help them and he created all these organizations, this organization rather, to, you know, like a charity organization to help these young kids.
Dude, and that's why it's like, I get furious about the people that misrepresent themselves a lot more than the, like there's all these scandals in Hollywood now.
And, you know, the spacies and the wine scenes of the world are so much more dark and evil than like, you know, there was that scandal with Andy Dick, and I like Andy Dick.
I'm like, the dude's an obvious dick rabber, and he feels bad about it, and he fucking just wants to get punched.
They fired him from an indie film because of sexual misconduct.
By the way, I hate to be cynical because I don't want to say that anybody wasn't victimized.
But if I was running an indie film that was so fucking stupid, I hired Andy Dick, I might be the type of guy that would make a statement about Andy being Andy.
It at least gets people talking about something that they would never have talked about because Andy Dick hops into the river of speculation as to who's a molester.
And that's when I have a hard time judging people.
Like, the person I've always been is trying to not be judgmental.
It's the snakes that I'm like, oh, you're telling everyone about global warming in your private jet.
Like, you can go fuck yourself.
You know, and it's like, it's the same with like Andy.
I'm like, Andy has never acted like not a train rack dick grabber.
And like when my friend died, the dude wrote me a fucking sweet email.
Like he's a sweet man.
He just blacks out, tries to grab wieners, gets sober, no more wiener grabs.
And so when I see him getting pulled through the muck, I'm like, you can't associate him with these like power fucked up guys that are like, you want to part?
See, that's the thing is now people are starting to treat me like I'm this like moral high ground guy and I don't want wait hold on who's doing that because of the fucking standing up for three-year-olds and I'm like dude I wouldn't judge one plant whack I'm not there's a difference between the you know like transgender three-year-olds and some coked up studio executive of course and here's the thing like I don't want to excuse anybody's behavior that's done anything that victimizes other people but it is a fascinating aspect of Hollywood culture that forever if you wanted to get apart you had to go to the casting
couch and everybody knew it and there was a lot of those guys that had disproportionate relationships like they were disgusting right he's disgusting and his wife is fucking smoking you ever seen harvey's wife no she's smoking and you know no need to bring her into this at all but i'm just explaining like this is a consistently disproportionate relationship that exists throughout hollywood like there's the guy who is insanely wealthy but physically vile and
he somehow or another managed to dunk his dick into tens before he coaxed himself into an early grave right that is a fucking common common common theme yeah and i'm not judging the that guy who's just getting tens when he's a two that's the american dream how do you do it though exactly it's about hating women it's about it is about hating right but this is my point it's like you do not get to dunk your dick in tens unless you do all the things that that guy did he produced shakespeare and
love that's a dick dunk i'm not i'm not excusing him i'm not exonerating him and i'm saying like women do not naturally feel attracted to obese guys with bad skin it isn't this is not a common thing right like in order for him to force the outcome that he desires he has to cross cultural and appropriate boundaries you know like this is just like we're dealing with like mathematics right we're literally and i'm not exonerating him again i can't believe i have to say this but i don't want anybody taking this out of context if
you were dealing with this as a system as a biological system like say if you're looking at it from afar and you had no connection to culture no connection to civilization you'd be like well what is this how is this system working like how is this one like extremely flawed biological entity oozing its way into these perfect shapes like it finds a way to penetrate these perfect shapes with thin waist and perfect asses and beautiful faces and his face is just this pile of
slovenness and just disgust and just growing hair on top of it and a little fat dick and just shoots incompetent sperm into the mouths of tens like what what what is happening here what is happening here well what's happening here is there's no way he would have been able to do it any other way it's like so like he's not thor right he's not uh he's not some fucking ryan reynolds type character with perfect cheekbones he's just like and he's just feeding that bat
with coke and fucking booze and blowjobs and and constantly trying to put out more things that allow him to buy the biggest fucking house the highest hills and yes i mean this is literally the only way he can do that the only way he can do that is to be disgusting like girls aren't just gonna line up i loved i loved your movies and i'm just like do it to me what you want you'll get one out of a million that do that but that's not enough like they have to they would have to find him through the
crowd that's not gonna work it's not gonna work it's almost like that crazy mindset and again not exonerating not not excusing but that mindset of like look what is the mindset of someone who wants to run the fastest race what is the mindset of someone who wants to makes the fastest jet bike zero to 100 time when you're fucking hanging on to these handlebars what is the mindset of that i don't know but it seems to be some sort of bizarre
quasi competitive biological environment where people are chasing some strange unattainable highest ground right yeah it almost comes from like a slight flaw like the sand makes the pearl right like how like comedians are a like a little flawed like sure somebody commented and i i like they were talking shit but i was like you're so right they go dude owen is the tallest dude with the napoleon complex i've ever seen and i was like you're fucking right man it's like ambition comes from this weird like feeling
of threat where you're like at any moment i like i got gotta try i gotta work really hard i was trying to work on this bit but it just never went anywhere about like um civilizations based on cock size, where you got the Japanese and the English take over the whole world because their chick is like, we need more, you know, your dick no good.
And then like sub-Saharan Africans have these monster hammers and their chick's like, you're not taking over shit.
Which is the point that I was making is like, you have to be disgusting to want to chase down tail to the point where you're willing to rape at that level.
I think he's constantly caught up in the pursuit of doing it.
You know, and I think probably it was like super exciting to get the young starlet who like didn't know any better, didn't didn't, you know, wasn't really 100% sure she was going to make it in Hollywood.
Have you ever seen people, like, there's been people that have said that you should have a consent form and you should videotape the signing of the consent form?
I was watching this YouTube thing where this guy was like talking about consent forms and like that you should get people to sign a consent form.
Well, I mean, you're seeing things where people didn't feel cool about it many years later.
But in the moment, maybe they just let it happen and they decide that that letting it happen was way worse than they were thinking about it at the time and then decide it's some sort of a sexual assault and then it spirals onward and outwards like you know we it would be really nice if people were just attracted to each other I know but like it's like sometimes I get pissed at some of these people though when they're like talking about like eye contact being some shit like I had a friend like this is this is dark but
uh there was uh you know she was kidnapped and like gang raped and nothing yeah dude it's and uh like there's so many false or like stupid accusations that like it clogs up the system to the point where i'm like you know i want to just kill these people you know and like uh dude the wolf is getting in me the wolf well that is the booze bourbon yeah i'm talking about how i want to kill yeah yeah standard on this podcast comes up once every couple weeks but
uh yeah it made me really uh fear infrastructure like where i'm like oh the cops come with a pencil it's not that csi shit and it's like there's p there's people out there that legitimately hurt women and i i want them to die you know and it's like you know there's a nine month wait on like a rape kit because fucking some chick regretted some shit when she was like texting and coming over with condoms you know i'm like we got to start triaging some of this shit you know well you gotta we
have to be very very strict on both sides of what we tolerate you know and we we cannot tolerate real rape but we also cannot tolerate false accusations 100 we cannot tolerate indulgences where people have distorted perceptions of reality and they paint what they know somewhere at least subconsciously to be some very inaccurate interpretation of the events of course and we also can't can we we
can't condone the cosby type shit that went on for years we can't condone rape we can't condone people who drug people or abuse people we can't condone that shit we can't condone either one of those things but i think more importantly is there's something going on right now where there's a hypercharged environment where people are terrified of being called out and people are like waiting like looking around like what's gonna happen next and then people are thinking about some shit that happened to him a long time ago well you know what this
has been fucking sitting in my craw for 18 years yeah dustin hoffman it's time the world knows yeah and i don't like hard-boiled eggs dustin i don't know what's true and i don't know what's not true i do not know i i cannot comment and no one can but it's this there's something that's going on where this i would hope and i this is what i always hope i always hope that any wave that goes this way eventually goes that way and i hope that any outrage leads to more understanding yeah man
all of this stuff and all this especially this fucking rape shit that i feel like there's more rape talk today and more understanding of how many girls get approached or fucked with or harassed or even actually raped or drugged yeah than we ever thought before that i'm hoping this conversation leads to more understanding early on in people's lives before they form this idea of what is and isn't acceptable yeah because that's a good thing from it is is making people
be like you can't treat women this way especially if young kids hear it early for sure hear it when you're young so that you don't ever grow up in some sort of an environment where the people around you tell you it's okay and that it's us versus them and fuck those bitches the worst these hoes yeah there's a lot of people grow up with that i know and it's like you want to be so good that women want to fuck you that's what makes civilization grow it's the it's the move dude you know what i can play beethoven by ear you think it wasn't for someone to think i had a great penis no i'm just kidding i started when
i was three i didn't know what i was doing you did you somehow knew that you were a male you somehow identified as a piano player i always say be the man that you pretend to be when you're trying to get laid that's awesome just be that guy well we can all do that.
And by the way, if you weren't that guy two weeks ago and someone keeps like sticking your face, it doesn't mean you're not that guy now.
All right.
Relax.
Everybody relax with the finger pointing.
Like if some dude makes some sort of a terrible mistake and goes off the rails a month ago or whatever it is, it doesn't mean that he's not.
It's an ineffective process.
He's a trial and error process.
And you can't judge someone entirely by the errors.
And then like afterwards, I'm smoking blunts with like dudes that, you know, Cleveland Improv has gang members waiting for me.
You know, there's some fucking people, man.
It's like, you know, someone's wearing a bull's hat in the city without red or like someone's got teardrop tattoos.
And like, I don't feel scared because I don't, like, if they have a body count, it's because of threats and business.
It's not like cruelty.
And I think that there's, even in like fucked up environments, you still have the cruel man and the good man, even if they like do things that you don't agree with in your social economic area.
The strong person that's kind enough to take care of the people that are weak.
That's what everybody wants, right?
Someone who is a strong person that looks out for the weak person, which is why everybody, like the term bully, which I think gets overused.
Like sometimes bullying gets used when people are equals and when someone's critiquing someone.
Oh, you're a bully.
Like, oh, no, no, no, no.
Listen, I just think that's stupid.
That doesn't make me a bully.
You're using it wrong.
We're not talking about children.
We're not talking about people that are physically weaker than me.
Like, let's be clear about what the fuck we mean when we say this very polarizing word.
But that word is polarizing because we absolutely don't want to be the person that's in the position of physical, moral, ethical, economic, whatever it is, superiority, who has influence over the other person's life and steps in and fucks with it.
And people are like, okay, even if you're a little off the mark, you're not trying to hurt people to make yourself feel better for your own inadequacies.
It's like I gave Dave Smith and Stephen Crowder both this compliment.
It's like, because even if you disagree with someone, the thing I love about people is like, if you make a good point, they look excited and happy versus threatened.
And I'm like, even if you're not on the path that I'm on, you're still trying to like carve your fucking sculpture to look beautiful and not a threatening posture.
But it's important that we realize, like, what is that reaction that we had?
And how do we mitigate the negative aspects of it?
And how do we figure out how we got to that point where we said something maybe we didn't believe?
Or we reacted to something in a way where if given time to reconsider the potential of going this way with it or that way with it, we'd probably come up with a better idea.
I know, and I'm like, oh, I'm representing a group of people that they keep writing me emails like, thank you so much for not calling me just evil for my, like, what I, you know, my basic beliefs.
Like, right now in 2017, it's like, if you're truly not, you sound almost racist because you're like, if I'm going to make fun of the whites, I'm making fun of everybody.
Because if that was the case, if we were all shit, there would be a goddamn rape festival in the streets of every major city all over the world.
If you really thought that we were all bad, let me tell you what all bad looks like.
All bad looks like the world filled with coked up Vikings just running through the street, mouth fucking everybody you've ever met.
That's what men can do.
And I'm not bragging, but that's what, if you're, if you, if you have lingerie on and you can close your eyes and walk through a football field in front of a large crowd, like one of them cheerleaders for like football, and no one just tackles you and starts fucking you in front of 50,000 people, that is because most people don't want that to happen.
They were two people who were attracted to each other, who were exchanging text messages, who were influenced by the ideals and the ideology of all the people around them.
Let's call a real rapist, a real rapist, and call an 18-year-old kid who was drunk, or I don't know how old he is, maybe he's 20, and a 20-year-old girl who was drunk.
Call them kids.
Call them kids who it's not like this guy drugged her and duct taped her.
Let's look at what it really is.
Is it really just two kids that got intoxicated and had intercourse with each other?
And then one of them felt bad?
God damn, how many times do you feel bad about sex?
This is one that I don't think I retweeted because I think I'm not entirely sure if I remember correctly, but I think I thought about retweeting.
I'm like, look, people don't need to see this.
This is not something I want to promote and support.
But it was, someone wrote, this is like an episode of Black Mirror because this guy kicked this girl and instead of calling 911, these people are filming this girl while she's curled up in a, did you find it?
I don't even know if I want you to find it.
But this girl curls up in a fetal position on the sidewalk and they're standing around her filming it.
Well, I think a big political divide isn't good, evil, blah, blah, blah.
It's population density.
It's like cities, like what we're talking about, all these monkeys going by each other and no one's eating each other's faces.
You want a powerful government to keep it chill.
But if you live in a place with a 40-minute police response time, it's about individuality.
And that's when you start going more libertarian because it's like, well, I have a gun and chickens, you know, versus like a big city where it's like, we need a powerful government to keep everyone relaxed.
And then going from that to martial arts, from the time I was like 15 years old, I was completely immersed in martial arts.
And I ran into a ton of cops.
And they were all like regular guys.
And it made me think, okay, when I think of a cop, I don't think of someone that I'm running into that's trying to lock me up.
I think of some poor guy who has this position in life where he's the guy who has to put the badge on and hold the gun And wear the stupid hat and stand in front of the criminal and go, put your hands up, put your hands up, and hope he doesn't get shot by a guy behind him that he doesn't know exists.
And this is his life 24-7, all day long.
Comes home to his kids, they're sleeping, he kisses them on the head, and he thinks about the kid that he saw shot in the apartment building in the Bronx.
It's like I'm boys with a lot of cops where I live, and a lot of them are troopers who are like really well-trained, and they're like the coolest dudes ever.
And they just, it's almost like the cop's emotion is just like where it's like, you just microwaved your fucking baby, dude.
You know, where it's like they see the shit, and then like I do benefits for like tour de force and shit for like fallen officers.
And because I have so much compassion for that shit, man.
It's like they are the watchdogs of our area, but then you get the bad seed or you get someone who makes a horrific mistake and then justice isn't given.
And that's why it's complicated.
You know, sometimes it's about like lawsuits where it's like, you know, someone fucks up and no one wants to admit they're wrong.
And then the community that witnessed that is like, they want, they're like, they just want justice.
What I learned from the yoga thing, though, and I've learned over the last few years, is like it's a balance issue.
Like what yoga does is balance everything out.
Not just balance in terms of your ability to stand on one foot, but also balance the difference between the strength of your major muscle groups and then your tendons and your back and your core and the connecting things like your knees and your hips and all these things you never take into consideration.
Like you don't really put a lot of emphasis on when you're doing other things.
But when you do yoga, you realize, oh, my feet are giving out first.
Huh?
Oh, like my hips are getting sore when I get into triangle pose.
Like, oh, my, you know, and all that different stuff that you do that like it leads to like the strengthening, strengthening of ignored aspects of the entire system.
Like I've been doing hot yoga with my wife and it's like, it's so hard and she's so good at it.
And like, it's so funny because she'll do, we'll do hot yoga together like once a week, maybe twice a week.
And she'll get real horny and I'm get real dehydrated.
So it's like that, it's the most frustrating combination because it's like she gets really in touch with her body and she's so fucking hot and it's like awesome.
But then I'm like, oh, I need about a gallon of water to make my cock like awesome.
You got to drink, especially the hot yoga, you got to drink like, try to drink like a liter, like a liter of water, like maybe, you know, an hour before.
Maybe even more.
Yeah, I try to drink, what is 64 ounces?
How much is that a house?
This is probably going ounces to liters.
It's all confusing.
God, I wish we would switch over to the metric system.
So 64 liters is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 liters.
Oh, yeah, 1.8.
1.89 liters.
I think that's what I bring to yoga.
I bring a 64 ounce thing.
I think if you can get that in, though, before class, like if you could get up early and drink water with lemon in it, you'll have a better performance.
Because it's literally like, and I see it a lot from guys that get dehydrated and try to make weight.
You're literally dealing with the electrical signals that go to your muscles.
You know, and if you can get accustomed to that, they say, I talked to a dude once when I lived in Boulder, and he told me that it takes three years for you to fully acclimate to a high altitude.
But that once you do fully acclimate, there's like extreme cardiovascular benefits.
Oh, it's so gorgeous, but I miss those like the oxygen zero fucking feet sea level, just running.
We used to live in Marina del Rey and that path, I just listened to Dan Carlin, just listened about fucking Genghis Khan as I just run with my fucking camel pack.
And that was a blast.
That's the thing about LA that I think is really beautiful is like the amount of biomes, like mountain, you know, there's some desert, there's some beach.
But I think, you know, if you have the ability to travel to all of them, you'll, well, I think you appreciated probably where you moved when you first moved there, right?
Coyotes will get a chicken if they can, but coyotes are smart.
They're oddly clever.
Like, they figure out how to avoid people.
You know, one of the things that I found most fascinating about Dan Flores' book, Coyote America, was the mythology that the Native Americans had about coyotes.
I mean, they're pretty powerful if like if they jack your chickens, like sometimes like we're talking about empathy, like what's it like to live a different life.
I'm like, what if I needed these chickens?
Like I got more chickens, but we had one chicken Holocaust.
And I'm like, we're fucked now.
Imagine if that was like the winner and like the chickens are gone.
So you have thought, you talked about it before the podcast that you thought about actually getting into hunting yourself, but you don't want to wound it out.
And here's, I mean, there's a lot you could read about shooting, but you have to get someone who sets up the scope correctly, sets up the rifle correctly, and then you just have to have someone teach you the proper form and how to just only move your finger.
Just pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, and get a surprise shot.
You can't go if you try to shoot because you'll flinch.
And a minor movement left or right over 100 yards could equal, it could be the difference between a lethal shot and shooting an animal in the butt.
And anybody who's shot a rifle, including me, has done that before.
If Weinstein's horrors didn't just extend to him sexually abusing actresses, but that his cum, when Harvey shot loads on those branches, that those branches like morphed because of the vile hatred for the female organism was in his DNA.
And those trees found human babies and female babies and smothered them to death.
It says, disgraced Harvey Weinstein has been telling what friends he has left that there's a bigger reason that he's embroiled in the ever-wielding, widening sexual harassment scandal to change the world.
Sources tell page six.
I hate when they say sources say.
Harvey believes he's a savior.
A Hollywood insider says, okay, this is a free swing.
But it's an interesting angle, so let's keep going.
A source adds that the Purvy, well, that's rude, former Weinstein company have Miramax matcher.
Has been telling confidants that he was born to take the fall for his behavior in order to change the world.
He is resigned to his punishment as a martyr for social change.
But here's the thing.
A comment, a rep for Weinstein commented, that's absurd.
Yeah, it is absurd.
But here's the thing.
I think that's true.
I don't think that there's like some crazy fucking destiny that he has the golden ring and he was supposed to take the fall.
But through his own folly, through his own greedy, fat, chubby dick trying to pump his ineffective lows into the mouths of tens, he really is going to change the world.
I mean, there's only one way that someone's going to give you information that could possibly threaten their life.
There's no financial benefit, no societal benefit for them.
They have to be anonymous.
Right?
We've always been, and that was like one of the main problems that I had with the Obama administration.
You know, people sort of let him slide on that, but Obama was one of the worst with whistleblowers ever.
That was a part of the Hope and Change website.
A part of the Hope and Change website that was later redacted or deleted was that they were talking about expanding protection for whistleblowers who are exposing someone breaking the law, which is exactly what Edward Snowden did.
In some jobs, a man makes more, and they have attributed that.
There's no real way to tell, but they believe that that's attributable to a man is more aggressive in negotiating his initial salary and subsequent raises.
And the interesting thing is women are better at negotiating for other people.
Like I've had female agents that are like vicious and awesome because they're like, it's almost like they're baby cops where they're like, no, they deserve more.
Yeah, for themselves, they're not as alpha because I think their attractiveness, this isn't Brett Weinstein shit where it's like their attractiveness is so given that they don't have to like most men didn't fucking procreate for most of human civilization.
So we're always just trying to be like, look, dude, I got a car.
Well, it's an interesting point because like if you have like there's two girls and one girl is like kind of gross and overweight and the other girl is like really pretty, the gross overweight girl will protect that pretty girl like a fucking German shepherd.
Yeah, but the opposite is true where it's like, he's the fastest.
Or it's like, he's the funniest.
Let's make him king.
And the women are like, she has herpes.
Tell everyone.
Or no, she's the prettiest.
Tell everyone she has herpes.
And it's like, it's the tallest nail gets hammered down because in egalitarian societies, like the gatherers have to be like the same, and the hunters value skill.
So it's like, can you shut your mouth and shoot a fucking gun?
Great, you're in.
Versus like berry picking, they're like, everyone's great, right?