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Joe Rogan Experience #1010 - Brian Redban
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joe rogan
And we're live, ladies and gentlemen.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
Montana's been on fire for a month.
Florida has three hurricanes headed towards it.
And Houston is still half underwater.
brian redban
Houston, sad.
joe rogan
Have you been?
brian redban
No, I've just, you know, a lot of my exes are there, and she's sending me photos and videos.
Like, her whole neighborhood's gone.
And, like, people have to put everything outside for the insurance collectors to look at it.
You know, so there's just, everyone's house has a pile in front of it of all their stuff.
And it says, like, no looting, please, you know.
joe rogan
I saw that on TV. Yeah.
Fuck.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Dude, it's like, there's nothing stopping that from happening for months.
Like, this is the thing about, like, Hurricane Irma.
Like, they have Harvey hits Houston, and then Hurricane Irma.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they said that this is very unusual because Hurricane Irma picked up speed in the ocean.
Which is a really bad sign.
They usually pick up speed in the Gulf, and the idea is that the Gulf has water that's warmer.
And that's what causes...
I don't know shit about hurricanes.
I'm totally talking out of my ass, right?
I really don't understand it.
But I'm pretty sure that's what they're saying, is that this is a very unusual storm because it actually picked up speed and picked up size and power in the ocean.
Which means the ocean's warmer.
So this could be a consequence of having a warmer ocean, is that these fucking hurricanes could get bigger and bigger in the ocean.
brian redban
And it's usually, it's really unusual because, you know, you have like such a big storm, like the one that hit Houston, that's usually once a year, once every couple years, it's not twice in like a month.
And then there's like, what, Jose's right behind it?
That's craziness.
joe rogan
I think they said there's two behind it.
jamie vernon
The other one formed in the Gulf, off Mexico, east of Mexico.
joe rogan
So it's just another one at the same time, but in a different place?
jamie vernon
It's just sitting there right now.
There could be another one forming off of the Cape in Africa, where they all usually form.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
brian redban
We don't get hurricanes because it's cold water.
Is that...
The logic behind it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think that's the move.
You want to live near cold water.
Just suck it up like a man and deal with that cold water.
That water is fucking cold, too.
When you get in the water in the Pacific Ocean, you're like, hey, what is this?
Like, this is weird.
It's crazy cold.
Even in the middle of August.
It could be 100 degrees in Malibu.
You get in that water and you're like, holy shit!
This is fucking cold.
brian redban
I've only been in it twice since I've lived here, like 13 years.
I remember the first week I moved out here, I was like, I'm going to the ocean, I'm running the ocean, freezing, never hit it again.
joe rogan
What is all this you're showing us, Jimmy?
Please don't say that's hurricanes.
A storm of hurricanes.
jamie vernon
These are the tropical cyclones of the 2017 Pacific hurricane season.
So these are cyclones that I guess have already happened this year.
I was assuming when I was pulling it up, they were in the past, like a long time ago.
I didn't know this many had already come here.
joe rogan
You know, when you look at this picture, like if you look at this picture of the United States, it gives you such a way better sense of what it really is.
Because that picture like because all the browns and the greens and because I'm not seeing cities and because it's like a perfect scale like pull back a little bit so you see it in scale with the ocean again like when you're looking at that you realize oh that shit could shift left and right a bunch of times easy like there's way more water than there is ground Like, that is a fucking problem.
That's a giant problem.
We're next to an enormous chunk of blue.
unidentified
It's so big!
joe rogan
Dude, I'll tell you, man, when I was living in that house in Malibu for a couple months on the water, I rented a spot on the water, that's when you realize, you go, oh, that's a monster.
That's like you're living on the edge of a world that can just reach in and swallow you.
brian redban
Did it freak you out?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
You know when it freaks you around is at night.
At night, it like reveals its true self.
Because like in the day, it looks beautiful.
The sun hits it.
It seems so peaceful.
The birds are squawk, squawk, squawk.
You see a seal or maybe a dolphin or a whale.
Sometimes you see a whale.
People see whales out there.
You're like, wow, this is crazy.
But then at nighttime...
When the sky is dark and the sea is black, then you get to see what it really is.
unidentified
Like, oh, this is a whole other world.
joe rogan
A world of water.
And we can touch it.
We can go in between worlds.
And that world is far bigger than our world.
And then I started freaking out about all the shit that we're pulling out of that world.
Like how gross are we?
Humans?
We're like just netting everything in that world and scooping it up and just chopping it up and stuffing it into cans and feeding it to our pets and eating it like left and right raw sushi.
Mmm yummy!
Like the never-ending supply.
Fuck, the world of the ocean, it is a real trip.
If you stop and think about what it really is, because if it was in the sky above your head, you'd be freaked out all the time.
You know, if you reached up to touch it, you'd be freaked out.
You wouldn't want to be right next to that thing.
Like, Jesus, it's too alien.
I can't get away from it.
But because it's right there, and it's blue, and we're on the ground, we feel like we're in control, we're cocky, because most of the time nothing happens.
I'm like, nah, no big deal.
It's right there.
I love the beach.
I like going to the beach.
Get some sun, catch some breeze.
It's like we're flirting with death, standing at the edge of this impossible-to-control life force filled with creatures.
Filled with the biggest creatures in the world, right?
Aren't whales the biggest things on Earth?
Yeah.
You know what they are?
They're the biggest living thing on Earth next to this...
There's like a group of mushrooms in the Pacific Northwest that are all connected and all considered to be one enormous life form.
Yeah, I gotta get this guy, Paul Stamets.
I think that's his name.
I believe that's how you say his name, rather.
He's a guy who studies mushrooms.
He's a mushroom scientist.
Fascinating studies.
Fascinating articles and stuff online.
jamie vernon
It's in the Blue Mountains in Oregon.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
More precisely, a specific honey fungus measuring 2.4 miles across in the Blue Mountains.
It's known as the largest living organism on Earth.
Several species of fungi belong to the...
Try that word.
Armillaria genus.
Genus or genus?
How do you say that?
That's a reed one.
That's one I read.
I never say.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I never use that in a conversation unless I'm being super pretentious.
I'd have to be like really high to be that pretentious.
Armaria...
unidentified
Armalaria.
joe rogan
Armalaria.
Armalaria genus, which is probably popularly known as honey fungus.
2.4 miles across.
I like how they give it to us in kilometers.
Like, if you don't want to be stupid, 3.8 kilometers.
If you want to be like the rest of the world and do everything intends, you fucking idiots.
Sticking them miles and inches.
brian redban
Why do we do that?
joe rogan
Because we're gross.
There's parts of America that are gross.
We're like, nah, we got it.
You know, like, well, we found a much better system.
It makes more sense.
It's all in tens.
The whole world use it.
Nah, good luck.
Good luck with that fucking stupid system.
I'll take inches, bro.
Yards.
Inches.
brian redban
It feels good, too, when you're in, like, other countries, and you're like, why are you going 120 miles an hour?
Oh, wait.
It's different.
joe rogan
So they're, like, 62 is, like...
I want to say it's a hundred kilometers an hour, but I think it's actually more than that.
brian redban
I was just always thinking it's half, but that's probably wrong.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
Is 62 a hundred miles an hour?
A hundred kilometers rather than 62 miles an hour?
A hundred sounds cooler.
You know?
Kilometers, they're better.
We're using some old king shit.
Inches.
It'd be weird to change now though like we had to be born with that like it's Well, dude when I was I mean, I don't know about when you were in high school But when I was in high school, they were trying There was a real push to get people to use the metric system that I don't think exists anymore I don't know, but I mean, maybe it was just the schools that I was in.
I would like to talk to other people that are like my age, that could remember like the 1980s.
Because in the 1980s, I think that they were trying to push the metric system.
I think I kind of caught it on the tail end.
brian redban
I don't remember it at all from school.
unidentified
Haha!
joe rogan
United States is now the only industrialized country in the world that does not use the metric system.
And it's a predominant system of measurement.
Most Americans think that our involvement with metric measurement is relatively new, but it's not, right?
What year did they try to do it?
1975. See?
The Metric Conversion Act of 1975. Yeah, that's what I remember, dude.
brian redban
Gerald Ford.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were trying that.
Maybe I wasn't in high school.
Maybe it was before high school.
jamie vernon
I was looking something up the other day.
I think it was when you asked, are the presidents allowed to change the White House or something?
I think it was Ford that added solar panels to the White House.
I was looking up, and then the next president, which might have been Nixon, took them out, and they didn't have them reinstalled until Obama was there five years ago.
So it was like 25 years of no solar panels when they already had them.
unidentified
We were already headed that way.
jamie vernon
Super weird.
joe rogan
That is weird.
brian redban
You see the new Apple campus that they're going to show, I guess, next Tuesday when they have events.
joe rogan
I haven't seen much of it, but I know that it's supposed to be some insanely impossible, huge, crazy place.
brian redban
It looks like a spaceship.
It's now finished.
They have drone footage that you can just go around.
It looks just like a round donut spaceship.
And the whole roof is solar collectors.
unidentified
Look at that thing.
brian redban
That powers itself.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
That might be a computer image of it.
brian redban
I think that is.
joe rogan
Wow.
Who cares?
Zoom back in on that computer image.
That's insane.
It must be so cool to have the kind of money where you could just build something.
Like, what do you guys want to do?
Let's make a spaceship, bro.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's make a fucking giant Apple spaceship.
Should we make it the shape of an Apple?
Nah.
That's too corny.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
They could.
They could have easily made that thing an Apple, but then they would have never been able to sell it.
brian redban
Yeah, exactly.
It's gonna go to like a tire company next.
joe rogan
They would never be able to sell it, man.
You know?
Yeah.
No one wants to buy your stupid Apple.
brian redban
You don't like the touch bar on your MacBook.
I've not even seen one in person yet.
joe rogan
This is what I think.
I don't think it's necessary.
I think it's kind of cute.
But it does a lot of different stuff that I never use.
And maybe it's me.
But also, there's like a Siri button that I accidentally press all the time while I'm typing.
Because I suck at typing.
I'm okay.
I'm not very good at it.
I really should practice and get better at it.
Every time I get a chance to write, I just write.
brian redban
You can turn it off, right?
The touch bar, though.
I think you could...
joe rogan
You can do stuff with it, but I mean, I don't know if you could totally turn it off because then you turn off the volume control.
That's where the volume control is.
brian redban
Oh, fuck, really?
joe rogan
The brightness, the volume control, everything.
The real problem is that fucking Siri button that's right above the delete key with my fat, stupid fingers.
I touch that thing at least once a day.
brian redban
You can turn Siri off.
joe rogan
She's off.
brian redban
Okay.
joe rogan
You're off, bitch.
Yeah, but I don't want Siri on my goddamn laptop.
But it's just an accidental touch thing.
And it's not the best keyboard.
It's a very shallow touch.
Some people like that.
It's very precise.
I'll give it that.
But I like the IBM or those Thinkpads.
Who's making those?
Lenovo, right?
Yeah.
They have a way better feel to their keyboard.
Mechanical.
Apple's operating system to me is just way better.
I shouldn't say way better, because Windows 10 is really good.
It's just more familiar, I should say, at this point.
It was way better for a long time, for sure.
But there's more options if you want to buy a Windows computer.
Like, you can get so many different kinds of computers.
You can get big ones, small ones.
You get ones with interesting keyboards.
You get ones with keyboards that feel like, you know, like that, like a MacBook.
Or you get other ones like a ThinkPad that it feels almost like a mechanical keyboard.
It's got a lot more touch to it.
It seems stupid, but to me that like tactile feel is a very important part of writing It helps me it helps like I like to to get in a good groove with where my fingers are growing and When I have actual physical keys that stick up a little bit more and they have a little push to them My fingers find their way better.
It's hard when you're on this like very thin keyboard Just me.
brian redban
I always upgrade my keyboards.
I like Razer.
Keyboards are really nice.
They make good ones.
joe rogan
I have a mechanical Razer keyboard for my computer at home.
brian redban
I love Razer.
joe rogan
They're the shit.
brian redban
I got one of those Razer laptops.
I decided to switch over to PC for VR gaming and all that stuff.
And the keyboard is a mechanical one.
You would love it.
It's almost like a typewriter.
Really?
Yeah, the Razer Blade Pro.
joe rogan
Those are slick-looking devices, too, man.
They are like...
brian redban
Literally like the like it's a Windows version of a MacBook like as far as like the build quality and everything Yeah, and it's got that most powerful graphics card in it a desktop graphics card They're very slick very slick.
joe rogan
They make a lot of cool shit.
They make the best gaming vices too.
jamie vernon
They made that The thing I told you about at CES, that three screen laptop.
I don't think it's out for sale yet.
That's crazy.
brian redban
Somebody stole that.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
You know how deep you're going when you get three screens popped open?
They're all on porn.
Three different movies going at the same time.
unidentified
Plus you're playing a game in the background.
brian redban
Do you worry about, like, our devices constantly listening to us at all times, like Alexa's and Siri's?
joe rogan
They definitely are.
brian redban
Oh, they are.
That's how they work.
Like, hey Siri.
joe rogan
I feel like this is all inevitable.
I feel like this is where it's all going.
You know, I think that you could fight it off if you want, and you could probably stay out of it for a really long time.
But ultimately, we are so much less private today than we were a decade ago.
And I don't think people really, really feel it yet.
Because a lot of the people that are like 25 today, you guys grew up with the internet being like this preeminent thing.
Like Brian and I, when we were kids there was nothing.
And then all of a sudden it came about when we were in adulthood, and you're like, whoa, this is nuts.
Like, this is all connected?
And it's like the whole world is learning a whole new style of being a person because of this connection.
I mean, it's changing everything.
brian redban
And kids are born into that.
Like, they've had it since they were born nowadays.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
brian redban
So they're completely different people.
joe rogan
Dude, I went down a rabbit hole the other day.
I went down a rabbit hole of vegan bloggers who are mean to other vegan bloggers and claim that they're not even vegan.
It was crazy.
I was like...
unidentified
I just went to a total wrong rabbit hole.
joe rogan
And people are accusing people of not being vegan and people are suing people.
I'm like, holy shit.
Like, this is...
jamie vernon
Vegan lawsuits.
joe rogan
Vegan lawsuits.
Yeah, defamatory lawsuits.
People talking shit lawsuits.
I'm like, whoo...
Man, you can go down a rabbit hole, right?
You know, that's never been the case before.
Before you get into a good book, you know, you go, this book is shit, man, I can't put it down.
It's a page-turner.
But you could never, like, just go from subject to subject instantaneously, your stupid little brain, just sucking up all the fucking motorcycle accidents and coyote attacks, and just...
That's there's never been a person like us in terms of like the person that with that kind of access to information We're the first generation ever like there's never been anyone before us We're all figuring out as we go along It's like we're at the library non-stop at the card catalog look looking up stuff doing research papers, you know non-stop on everything non-stop on everything Yeah, you know and then you got all your factions You know, people group up.
They group up.
You got white supremacist factions.
You got flat earth factions.
You got, I mean, you got giant groups of people who chunk up together and they all like share memes and they make fun of everybody else.
I saw one online.
It was a flat earth guy calling all people who believe the earth is around globe heads.
And I was like, what is this?
And there's a whole series of them.
There's like hundreds of them, dude, where people are mocking the idea that the Earth is round.
You can fucking find anything online, man.
Anything.
Any weird group, you can find them.
Have you seen it?
jamie vernon
I typed it in Google and there's just like the first three things or videos like, another globehead theory debunked.
brian redban
Eddie Bravo pissed off.
joe rogan
Dude, I fucking love those people now.
I used to get upset at them.
Now I love them.
My parents were globeheads, not anymore.
They burned the house down because the parents think the world is round.
This is the meme.
It's a child standing in front with a smile, standing in front of a burning house.
It says, my parents were globeheads, not anymore.
So this is my point is it's the same thing They're all it's all the same kind of mental illness that drags you into this group hook line and sinker if the group doesn't make any sense if it's you know Vegan bloggers trying to take out other vegan bloggers or whether it's this idea that the world is round and that the people think the world is round should have their houses burnt down.
Little kids should be smiling even though it's their parents.
Like, what?
This is so crazy.
brian redban
I haven't talked to too many flat earthers, but...
But, you know, Kevin Pereira, he attached a GoPro camera to a weather balloon one time, or a few times, and when it goes up to a certain point, it's around Earth that the camera's showing.
unidentified
Well, Kevin Pereira is a globalist shill.
joe rogan
You don't know shit, man.
brian redban
Eddie does believe in that, right?
joe rogan
He says he doesn't.
Well, he doesn't say he does.
He doesn't know about that one.
He keeps an open mind with everything.
unidentified
That's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think he's actually saying it.
Maybe he's not saying it to me.
But I think it's fun for people, too.
I think there's that.
It's fun to think that they're right.
It's fun to say, you don't know.
And you're right, I don't know.
There's a lot I don't know.
That's the reality.
I mean, that's one thing that, like, if you're talking to Flat Earth people, and you say, why are you so confident that the world is round?
Like, you got a good point.
I'm not doing any experiments.
I've never really looked at the data.
I've looked at all those satellite images, though, and I would assume that all those people who are making maps and flying transcontinental flights, pilots, people who make satellites, people who've actually been to space...
I would assume they're not all in cahoots.
I mean, but I don't know.
Might be the biggest hoax of all time.
Could you imagine if we're really living in some, like, what was that Jim Carrey movie?
jamie vernon
Truman Show.
joe rogan
Truman Show, yes.
If we're really living in some...
Bizarre simulation and we are in a dome and we've been just tricked with some fake numbers and science and images I continue to think that more and more to the point where that's my religion where people that's my flat earth to the it's getting So weird the older you get how much I believe in that kind of shit like a simulation simulation stuff I think we probably have a deeper connection that we can't measure.
And that's one of the reasons why it seems like things could be fake.
I think we have a connection that's changing, too.
I think our connection with our reality, not just because of information and technology that allows you to call each other and stuff like that.
I think the information that we're getting is allowing us to almost go through the world in a different way.
And things are syncing up more and more with a lot of people.
I hear that all the time.
It sounds like total horseshit, though.
But I wonder, I mean, what is the placebo effect, right?
What is that?
brian redban
Tricking your brain into something that's not there, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, well you trick your body into thinking that it took medicine and your body heals itself, right?
What the fuck is that?
So there's some tricks.
There's some tricks.
jamie vernon
It doesn't even happen with like medicine.
Music and wearing certain uniforms like get you pumped up.
Totally.
joe rogan
Music's a perfect example, right?
There's songs that I hear when I'm working out and I fucking work out harder.
They give me more fucking pep, more energy.
And then there's a lot of fucking movies that do that to you, right?
I saw Rocky when I was a little kid.
I ran around the block.
I drank raw eggs.
I did the whole thing.
Because I was just so pumped up.
That movie literally gives you energy.
brian redban
I think every kid ate raw eggs when that movie came out.
I remember doing it with my friend.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
brian redban
And then there's glitches in the simulation, like deja vu, or when you're walking down a sidewalk, and you know how you just walk, people walk next to you, like no big thing, but then there's that one guy where you try to go left, he's going left, you're going right, and you're just like, why didn't we just sync up here?
Like, what the fuck happened there?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's random.
The randomness of it all, man.
jamie vernon
It made me think of this.
I just saw this article recently.
It came out.
There's a study about why music gives you goosebumps.
Some scientists studied 10 people that claim that they get chills when they hear certain songs or certain things happen and whatnot.
joe rogan
What does it say?
jamie vernon
They did brain scans on them, and what they found out is that their auditory cortex, which is...
or if they have fibers in their auditory cortex that are stronger, I guess, whatever that stronger is, than people who don't feel that, which leads to a stronger emotion reaction.
So they think that it can be used to treat people with depression to get them to bring up feelings that they might not be able to access otherwise.
It's obviously just a new study, and it's lots of theory and whatnot, but...
joe rogan
Well, it's interesting.
Here's another interesting way to look at it.
What is it about a song that gets you like that, that gives you that energy?
And part of it is like the novelty of hearing the song.
Not meaning that you don't want to know what the song is about, but you can't hear it too many times or it loses its impact, you know?
After a while, a song becomes flat if you hear it too many times in a row.
jamie vernon
I've tried to notice when it happens to me, and more often than not, it's from a live performance.
I'm feeling the emotion the person singing it has a little bit.
I've noticed it's more often like on a real live or that person's first time on TV. Yeah.
One of those kinds of things that happens more than just like listening to the radio or...
joe rogan
It could probably get annoying too if you heard it over and over and over again.
brian redban
Radio kills music.
unidentified
Oh, for a lot of...
joe rogan
Yeah, you remember?
Do you remember back in the day when you would hear a song over and over again on the radio?
And you'd be like, what the fuck, this song again?
You'd actually get annoyed?
brian redban
If you go to any local radio station, turn on a Rocks channel, you know you're gonna hear, like, one of three songs in an hour at least.
Like, one Metallica song, like, Inner Sandman's gonna come on once.
joe rogan
Yeah, it has to come on.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
No shit, right?
Boy, that's a fucking tough gig because those guys, like, the DJs never got, like, the freedom anymore to go loose.
They're just to roll up with a bunch of records and start playing some shit that they like.
That's what they used to do, right?
Correct me if I'm wrong?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they always had program managers, right?
So the program manager would influence what they would put on.
jamie vernon
A little bit, for sure.
joe rogan
Dude, I remember when they would play a record.
You could hear the record skip sometimes.
Like, sometimes it would skip, though.
And they would have to, like, go back and, like, we're sorry about that, ladies and gentlemen.
Like, some fucking dude is not paying attention, and he's off in the restroom or something like that, or getting a cup of coffee while the song's playing, and he doesn't realize that it's been skipping.
That happened all the time back in the day.
brian redban
There's a local DJ here in Los Angeles that does that.
He plays records, and he's like a real DJ. He's like one of the last guys, I think.
I mean, it's been like a year since I've listened to the radio, but he used to be really cool, and you could hear the static of the record, and it was cool.
I don't remember what channel that was.
joe rogan
Do you remember that Christian Slater movie?
Where Christian Slater was, he had like a pirate radio station and they were trying to get him.
The government was chasing him.
It was very, almost like Smokey and the Bandit-esque.
It was so stupid.
The way they're chasing him, like they're trying to get him because he's broadcasting and you can't do that.
You know, it's like he's wild and he's good looking and, you know, he's rebellious.
jamie vernon
Wasn't he supposed to be in high school, too?
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Something like that.
jamie vernon
That was the weird part.
brian redban
That was one of my favorite movies growing up.
I don't know what you're talking about.
That was a great movie.
It was a great movie!
joe rogan
Dude, at the time, it was a great movie, for sure.
Well, I'm just saying, like, how weird was it?
Like, back then, if you had, like, a pirate radio station, you were a rebel, and people would be out there in the woods listening.
unidentified
He's like, hey, if you're hearing me out there, you're still alive.
And if you're still alive, you can still kick some ass.
benjamin jaffe
He'd be giving these fucking corny pump-em-up speeches to all the young kids.
joe rogan
They'd be like, yeah, we gotta rise again.
It's like all the old people were retarded.
None of the old people made any sense.
It was the young people that knew that everything was wrong in the system, man.
brian redban
It's like pre-internet, man.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Dude, he had a cordless phone, though.
brian redban
That's cool.
I like Christian Slater.
Big fan.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was pre-internet, man.
That was pre-fucking internet.
brian redban
I forget the movie I watched the other day.
And there was no internet.
And there was no cell phones.
And you forgot.
A part of you forgets that.
Because there's so many scenes where the guy's like, I need to contact Mary.
I need to find her.
And then you're like, why don't you just pull out your cell phone, asshole?
Oh, wait.
There is no cell phones here.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you need to find someone, you gotta go look for them.
You gotta run around and yell.
People yell a lot.
Bobby!
jamie vernon
Call places?
joe rogan
Dude, Italians, I remember very clearly when I was a kid, especially in the real Italian neighborhoods on the East Coast, people would scream out for people in the street.
They would just scream, Donny!
Hey, Donny!
They would just be yelling at the top of their lungs.
It was so crazy.
People always did that.
And then people got answering machines.
That was a big one.
Do you remember answering machines?
brian redban
Yeah, I still have one of mine.
I would love to hear the messages on that.
Those were crazy.
You always had to have the best outgoing message, so you put some music behind it, or you put your favorite Saturday Night Live skit in the back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or if you're real creative, you had Tony Montana.
unidentified
Say hello to my little friend!
brian redban
Mine was the Cheech and Chong parrot at one time, the one that's like, hello, hello, or whatever.
I forget that.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was always a lot of people trying real hard to be creative.
That was like your first social media profile.
brian redban
Damn!
unidentified
It was!
jamie vernon
Then it turned into the instant messenger away message, which is almost a status update.
brian redban
And then it was the grossest thing ever invented, ringback tones.
Remember the Verizon ringback tones?
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah!
joe rogan
Yeah, you used to be able to call people up.
Sometimes you still call people up and they'll play a song.
brian redban
Yeah.
I guess they still have it, probably.
joe rogan
Dana Wright used to have King of Rock.
unidentified
You'd call her, I'm the King of Rock!
joe rogan
There is none higher!
brian redban
My favorite is when you had...
joe rogan
That's a good move.
brian redban
You had for like a year.
joe rogan
You gotta have somebody.
unidentified
Run DMC. You had for a year, I Am Beautiful.
joe rogan
Oh, that beautiful song.
Christina Aguilera.
unidentified
No matter what they say, words can't bring me down.
brian redban
And we would just be in like a normal conversation with like adults, and then suddenly that thing would just blare out.
joe rogan
I always loved that song.
brian redban
It's a good tune.
joe rogan
Sometimes I like things, and I don't like that I feel pressured to not like them.
You know, I'm like, how come I can't like that song?
It's a beautiful song.
Is it too girly?
Is that what it is?
Is that what's going on?
A lot of prejudice.
brian redban
That's how I feel with Taylor Swift.
I was blaring her new song the other day and I was at a red light and I was like, God damn, I gotta roll out my windows.
joe rogan
You go, boy.
Sing that shit.
Who gives a fuck?
It's weird.
You gotta be scared to sing things out.
jamie vernon
I was playing that one Sia song in here after you left one day and you came back in like, what the fuck are you doing?
That song's tight.
unidentified
It's awesome.
joe rogan
It's tight?
jamie vernon
Tight.
It's new.
joe rogan
Hashtag black Twitter.
It's the hot shit.
Yeah, man.
I like a lot of shit that I probably shouldn't like.
brian redban
What's your biggest, latest, guiltiest, pleasure?
joe rogan
I like Taylor Swift.
I like her music.
brian redban
I like Justin Bieber.
joe rogan
I like his voice.
unidentified
He's got a beautiful voice.
brian redban
A couple of his songs are alright.
joe rogan
That kid can sing his fucking ass off.
jamie vernon
I heard some people are upset right now because Justin Timberlake is rumored or he's going to be doing vocals on the new Foo Fighters album.
But he's just doing some background.
You won't even know it's him, but his name made it out in a blog post or something.
joe rogan
That guy's not gonna do...
This is Timberlake?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a smart guy.
He's not gonna do anything stupid.
If he does do that, he's gonna smash it.
He wouldn't do it if he didn't think he could smash it.
jamie vernon
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll just smash it.
brian redban
Yeah, he's great.
I don't know why people shit on him.
He's like one of the best, most talented people ever.
joe rogan
Too handsome, too tall, too pretty, too rich.
He dances around.
He's too good at dancing.
Don't like it.
Do not like it.
Yeah, guys don't like some handsome fellow who dances real good and sings his ass off.
Fuck that.
So people are hating.
He just gets all the poison.
He dances.
Fucking dancer.
Can't like dancing too much if you're a dude.
But it's that same thing.
The same reason why you're not supposed to like that I Am Beautiful song.
It's a goddamn beautiful song.
But, you know, people prefer you to be like, you know, enter Sandman!
Which is great, too.
It's a balance in this life, right?
You want a little Ozzy Osbourne?
Every now and then you want a little Sheryl Crow.
I like a little Sheryl Crow.
brian redban
I'm hauling notes all day.
I can't get enough of hauling notes.
joe rogan
I can't go for that.
unidentified
Get it?
joe rogan
I got you.
unidentified
I got you.
joe rogan
I can't go for that.
No.
No can do.
Hall and Oates.
Old school, son.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
If you want to hear one of the best versions, there's a band called Bird and the Bee.
They're a local band, a woman singer, and they covered all the greatest hits.
And, man, her voice is so amazing.
And she just brought life to those old songs.
What's her name?
It's called Bird and the Bee.
joe rogan
Bird and the Bee.
brian redban
And it's Hall and Oates' greatest hits or something like that.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
I highly recommend that.
It's on Spotify.
joe rogan
Damn, son.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were great.
There was a lot of those bands.
That was like 70s music, right?
Was that 70s?
brian redban
70s, 80s.
Kind of 80s-ish.
More 80s.
joe rogan
Remember Maneater?
Whoa, here she comes.
unidentified
Watch out, boy.
She'll cheer you up.
joe rogan
Whenever you can get that sultry side look, listen bitch, you knew the camera was on.
Why are you looking at me sideways?
Look right at me.
That's a weird look, bro.
You're gonna hit me.
Hey, let's work this out.
Don't hit me.
That's like a dude who's hauling back with his right hand about to punch you.
Why are you looking at me like this?
Look at me.
Look at me, bro.
brian redban
Oh god.
joe rogan
That's not even as extreme as what he's doing.
He's doing it more like this.
brian redban
That's tight.
joe rogan
That's like, you might be able to take my backpack.
brian redban
I love how the fashion is now the fashion that we are dealing with right now.
joe rogan
It's coming back, son.
brian redban
Yeah, that looks like Josh Martin on the left there wearing his little leopard shirt.
joe rogan
Yeah, Josh Martin is like the pinnacle of fashion for these young kids.
He's in my litmus test to find out what's going on in the world.
I'm like, are those the new Yeezys?
He goes, yeah, I go, yuck!
brian redban
I hate those Yeezys.
joe rogan
I don't get it.
brian redban
You still into those stupid things?
joe rogan
He loves them.
jamie vernon
I have enough of them, I will say that.
They need to change it up a little bit.
They've been running this model down for three years.
joe rogan
One day, history will not be kind to you.
brian redban
Yeah.
You know, all he did is he went to Korea and found one designer, and he's like, hey, I want that.
jamie vernon
He also spent, whatever, I don't want to get into all this, but he spent some time working as an intern.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think you should deny what he's accomplished when it comes to Mr. Yeezy.
I just don't enjoy what they look like.
brian redban
I don't like his tilted stage.
joe rogan
I just don't like what they look like.
jamie vernon
They're comfortable as all hell.
I bet they are.
joe rogan
I bet they are.
Maybe not.
If it is half what it's about, yeah, I think half of it is about to have Yeezys.
jamie vernon
Well, oh, you mean the Yeezys.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Half of it is the name.
jamie vernon
Oh, that's like 95% of the Yeezys.
joe rogan
95?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
95, okay.
jamie vernon
There's more comfortable shoes out there.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It's also like a Rolex.
Why would you get a Rolex when you could have a movement watch?
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Totally.
jamie vernon
Or any other watch.
It's a $25,000 watch or a $200 watch.
joe rogan
Exactly.
jamie vernon
It still tells time.
joe rogan
It's some sort of arm candy, you know?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's like a foot candy.
joe rogan
A bracelet.
jamie vernon
Same shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Jewelry.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's jewelry.
It's watch jewelry.
Like those watches that Floyd Mayweather has.
Those crazy watches.
That half a million dollar watch that he had.
That's arm jewelry.
That's not really a watch.
This watch costs like 150 bucks.
brian redban
That's a cool watch.
What kind is that?
joe rogan
It's Casio.
brian redban
Casio.
joe rogan
It's a good watch.
brian redban
You know, every time I wear a watch, I just...
joe rogan
Prince?
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Freddie Mercury's little arm bracelet.
brian redban
Oh, I'm sorry.
jamie vernon
I was pulling this up, I just saw something.
joe rogan
What is it?
jamie vernon
This is the new guy that's gonna play Freddie Mercury in the biopic.
This is the guy from Mr. Robot, that USA show.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Damn.
jamie vernon
Brammy Malick.
brian redban
Oh my god, it is him.
joe rogan
He looks amazing.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
brian redban
That's great.
jamie vernon
Looks just like him.
joe rogan
That song, Dragon Attack, the Queen song, Dragon Attack.
You know that song?
That's my freeze song.
That's my song when I go into freeze.
I just listen to Dragon Attack.
brian redban
Have you made yourself to the Mac, gotten to your max, like you're not allowed to go any high longer in the freeze thing?
Is that how it starts?
joe rogan
They don't really like you going in more than three minutes.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Three minutes is pretty much the max.
So I go in three minutes, then I wait out for ten minutes, and then I go in for another three minutes.
brian redban
Damn, animal!
joe rogan
Dude, it feels good.
brian redban
When you pee, does it come out like a slushy?
Is it a little icy or something different?
Does it do anything different?
joe rogan
All it does is it makes your body produce a lot of anti-inflammatories, like cold shock proteins.
They're called cytokines.
Your body produces them when it freaks the fuck out and thinks it's going to die.
Because it's so cold.
Oh, dude, you feel amazing.
It really feels amazing when you come out of there.
Like, you feel like...
Dr. Rhonda Patrick explained it scientifically when she did a podcast about it, and she was talking about the increased anti-inflammatory markers in the blood, I think it was, and the other thing was that your norepinephrine, I think that's how you say it, brain chemicals spike.
It's a lot of it is just dealing with the fact that your body's been thrust into this insane environment Like I guess I guess there's way I mean, it's like, you know, we're talking about the placebo effect, right?
Like there's a way through just thinking about something you can get your mind to Operate in a way where it fixes your body right and that there's sort of some something similar to in this respect that like Your your brain and your thoughts for something like a placebo effect or something like like really trying to Really trying to figure out how you interface with stuff.
I think I think I really do think that there's more to Like how we go like this idea that like there's a simulation theory that you keep bringing up a lot of people keep bringing up I think we interface with reality different than we ever did before just slightly different just slightly I think that all the different ways you can hack your system,
whether it's through cold shock proteins from doing that, or heat shock proteins from doing a sauna, or even placebo effects, it might be good to get tricked.
It might be like that's like probably like half of the reason why religion does a lot of people good because if you fucking believe if you really believe that Jesus is real and you read all the the tenets of the Bible and you go wow this is fucking what a great way to live your life like whoa you get almost like a bit of a placebo effect and you can say look it works it's real And it's like the same way you could say sugar pills are real, right?
If you give a guy a placebo, sugar pill, it does nothing really, but all of a sudden it fixes what our ailment he had.
It's all connected, man.
We can do shit with our brains.
We can do shit with our bodies.
That Wim Hof guy's living proof of that.
You ever pay attention to him?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Dude, I've had him on a couple times.
You gotta check out his shit.
This guy does marathons in his underwear.
He runs to the top of Everest in a pair of shorts with ice flip-flops on.
He has sandals on.
I'm not bullshitting.
brian redban
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Summits Everest.
He says it's easy.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, he runs barefoot in the snow.
He does marathons.
And all just by controlling his breathing and controlling his mind.
He's a real freak, man.
Fascinating cat.
Was like a yoga teacher most of his life.
Went through a bunch of hardships and really started realizing that by jumping in cold water and controlling his breathing, he really sort of changed his reality.
And he does it all the time.
This guy goes into glacial waters.
brian redban
So wait, isn't like frostbite and like physical things real?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think it is.
But I think your body, first of all, develops tolerances for stuff.
And I noticed that just from doing the cryo chamber.
Like if I don't do it for a few...
Look at him out there doing yoga barefoot in the snow on the top of a fucking mountain.
Is there a more badass photo ever taken?
Look at that.
brian redban
That's pretty sweet.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
brian redban
But what about hyperthermia and all that crap?
joe rogan
This is what I'm saying.
I think your body adapts.
Because if you do cryotherapy and you've never done it before, the first time you do it, you're like, holy shit.
The first time they do it, they won't let you do more than a minute and a half.
They want you to go, oh my god, like what is this?
And if you take some time off and you get back in there, like if you haven't gone in a few months and then you go back in there, you do feel way cold.
But if I go like three days in a row, I can just get right in there and stand there.
And it doesn't even freak me out.
It doesn't...
I just...
I'm just used to it.
I know what it is.
My body's adapted to it.
My body's accustomed to it.
Now imagine like how people live that are living in like...
Northeast Alaska or you know like living in places where they hunt seals and shit like the Inuits they don't even get frostbite man like their hands gonna be out and exposed and Ridiculous cold they just don't they don't get the same sort of issues with it that we do like their their bodies have adapted It's weird fuck I think your mind can make your body do a lot of shit it doesn't want to do.
And your mind can do it by forcing yourself into extreme physical conditions, like a cryo-chamber or like a sauna.
Sauna is amazing for you, apparently.
What that Rhonda Patrick lady was saying...
That Rhonda Patrick lady, Dr. Rhonda Patrick was saying, was that there is a 40% decrease in mortality across all causes, from everything that gets, like heart attacks, strokes, cancer, 40% decrease in mortality across everything, just from doing sauna like four times a week.
Apparently it's just fucking phenomenal for your body.
Just sit there and just heat up and it just fires your system up.
You know, all those heat shock proteins.
They just act as an anti-inflammatory for your body.
Your joints feel better.
Things move better.
So you get out of there too and you cool off and you feel way better.
I think there's a bunch of resources like that that we don't take advantage of enough.
I think everybody should be saunting all the time.
brian redban
I'm just traumatized from being a child and going with my dad and seeing all those dicks and balls.
Yeah, you shouldn't have looked.
joe rogan
He told you not to look.
You shouldn't have looked.
You know I think there's a lot of negative connotation towards sauna in MMA because a lot of people think of a sauna is like a place where people go to cut weight like a real painful process to cut weight so they can make a weight class Which is true, they do use it for that.
But that's not the only use for the sauna.
Like, you shouldn't just be using the sauna for that.
You should be using the sauna for health.
We should use it all the time.
I think it's a gigantic, important step in, like, body maintenance.
It's like a bunch of shit you have to do for body maintenance.
I think that's one.
brian redban
Has there been any news updates on the Jon Jones situation?
joe rogan
No, I haven't heard nothing.
brian redban
That's so disappointing.
joe rogan
So makes me sad.
jamie vernon
The Red Band insights on this one?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
You called the dick pills.
I would just like to say for the record, Brian Red Band completely called the dick pill thing.
If I paraphrase, you were like, let me say, he parties, he does coke, he probably took some dick pills.
I was like, what?
Jesus Christ, it made so much sense.
It was there right along the whole time.
brian redban
I just remember the FDA.gov had like, you know, breakdowns of certain like rhino dick pills at gas stations and a lot of them had steroid type things in them.
joe rogan
He's so crazy.
He was taking that stuff.
brian redban
He's probably still taking them.
joe rogan
Well, now I bet he would.
I mean now, now he's like, fuck it, I'll just take everything.
brian redban
You could get addicted to him.
I was addicted to him for a while.
I don't know why.
joe rogan
I don't think he's addicted to it.
The new thing that he tested positive for has nothing to do with that.
They said the new thing that he tested positive for is a steroid that they only test for in urine.
And according to Chael Sonnen it's like a very it's not a very common steroid and it's actually kind of old-school It's like something they used to do a long time ago.
So he it's his thought was that if somebody is getting him to do that That if that's not a tainted supplement if someone's getting him to do that that person knows their shit Like that's that's some sneaky steroids.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he said it's usually combined with other things.
unidentified
That's so unfortunate, man I don't know if it's true.
joe rogan
He could have got sabotaged.
brian redban
What's he saying?
joe rogan
No one's saying anything.
There's no official statement, I don't think.
I think they're trying to test other samples.
They tested a blood sample, and then they released the results of the blood sample.
They always do a blood and a urine.
The blood sample was negative, but the blood sample didn't test for that stuff.
You could speculate all day long.
I'm sure as the facts come in, we'll get a better understanding of it.
But it would be the most disappointing thing ever if someone spiked his shit.
It'd almost be less disappointing if he took something and got caught than it would be if somebody tainted him.
brian redban
That's why I'm saying he knows his past.
It just seems ridiculous to think that he would even try.
Even if it's old school or stuff they barely tested.
It seems like, why would he even risk that?
joe rogan
Because he already went through that.
Being a cage fighter is a ridiculous way to make a living.
And people who are cage fighters, especially like elite level, like a guy like Jon Jones, that guy has probably a belief in himself that you and I will never understand.
And completely impulsive in what he decides.
He's a wild motherfucker.
That's why he's so good.
Because he's smart and he's wild.
He's legitimately wild.
He has wild chances.
I always talk about when he fought Shogun for the title.
When he fought Shogun for the title, he opened up the fight with a flying knee.
That was the first thing he did.
Fighting a legend.
Fighting a UFC light heavyweight champion.
I mean, he was crazy talented.
And still is, right?
I mean, he's only 30. But he's a wild man.
And wild men sometimes do shit that they don't even know why they're doing it.
They're just doing it.
And if you're a guy that's that powerful as a guy like Jon Jones, try controlling him.
Good luck.
Good luck telling him he can't go out.
Good luck telling him what he's got to do.
It's one of the things about him in the past is that he hasn't trained hard for fights.
And they were way harder fights than they should have been probably because he really wasn't in shape.
And everyone around him kind of knew it, but he was that good that he could fight world-class title challengers and beat them in five-round fights without really training.
Like, that's how goddamn good that guy is.
So you and I, we don't know how his brain even works.
So who knows what the fuck happened?
I hope he didn't do something, but then again, that means that one of two things happened.
Either he took a tainted supplement, which is, after a while, almost becomes a joke.
People keep saying that.
Hey, stop taking supplements.
Or even worse, that someone spiked him.
brian redban
Yeah, the spiking thing, because it seemed like...
joe rogan
That would be crazy.
That would be crazy.
You could do that to somebody, though, for sure.
I mean, if somebody is around someone with nefarious intentions, or someone's around someone who's resentful, and you're in some sort of pro-fight camp, and someone just decides, fuck this guy, and just dumps some stuff on your chicken.
brian redban
Steroid cream in your hand cream?
joe rogan
I think there's things they could do to get it into your system.
You probably wouldn't even know what you...
jamie vernon
The test that came up, nay, positive, I guess, is the one that happened, right?
It was after the weigh-in, right?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
It's a urine test.
jamie vernon
He wasn't tested at any time before that?
joe rogan
I'm sure he was.
They were tested multiple times in camp.
jamie vernon
So wouldn't it have probably come up then?
joe rogan
Not necessarily.
Because it's really like, well, I don't know what kind of time period they tested him in, and I don't know what kind of half-life this stuff has.
Because apparently Chael Sonnen was telling Brendan Schaub that it gets out of your system quite quick.
And that's one of the things that guys like about it, apparently.
That you could do it and it gets out of your system really quick.
You would have to find out, like, how much time do they usually have in between visits by USADA? And what are the odds they're going to get busted?
Like, how many times during camp are they willing to roll the dice?
24 or 48 hour acting steroid.
How many times can you roll the dice?
USADA visited you three times.
You gotta roll the dice this week?
Roll it.
Come on, I wanna have a hard workout Thursday.
Fuck it, let's roll the dice.
You roll the dice.
27 hours, no USADA. 28, you wake up in the middle of the night sweating.
30 hours, no USADA. You know if they come, you know if they come, your fucking career's over and they take away millions of dollars.
40 hours.
You're peeing.
No USADA. The next day, USADA. You start thinking, 52 hours?
How many hours is that?
How many has it been?
unidentified
48, 49, 50, 51, 53 hours.
joe rogan
53 hours.
It's got to be gone, right?
It's got to all be gone.
And you give them that piss, just wondering.
brian redban
And I'm sure there's stuff that you can take that supposedly washes it out faster, like any kind of drug test.
Like weed tests, I remember, I think it was like cranberry juice or something you just constantly drank.
joe rogan
There's certain diuretics, for sure.
Certain diuretics can mask steroids.
It's one of the reasons why they're illegal.
jamie vernon
I'm looking at this article that came out about an hour ago, it looks like, on Bloody Elbow.
That's not like any updated news or anything, really.
It's a PED expert who's known in the track and field world as known for supplying performance-enhancing drugs to them.
His name is Angel Hernandez, also known as Memo.
Not that that matters a whole lot, but if anybody knows him.
joe rogan
Angel Heredia.
Heredia Hernandez.
But Angel Heredia, is that the same guy that used to train Manny Pacquiao?
jamie vernon
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Or no, who the fuck did...
There was a guy that was like a really popular...
Goddammit, I know I got his name wrong.
Strength and conditioning coach.
jamie vernon
He's saying that the tests that they do, tests for six different particular metabolites, and one of those can last up to seven weeks.
And then to skip down here, he says that one of those metabolites can look like the same structure as the tyrannobol.
It may or may not.
It doesn't mean that it's not tyrannable or whatever, but it could be from a bad supplement that he took during the training period that lasted in his system and ended up looking like it.
joe rogan
Ooh, interesting.
Listen to this quote.
Listen to this quote.
If he would have been using way before then, he eventually would have been positive on the 21-day testing before the fight, but he was negative.
Then he came out positive.
Frankly, the testing itself, it lacks credibility for a lot of reasons.
We could go on and on, and I could be very specific in terms of chemistry, but I don't want to mislead The people that listen, it's just the fact that they're detecting six different metabolites and one of them stays there longer than seven weeks.
But the most intriguing part is that some of those metabolites are not really confirmed that they are actually coming from that...
How do you say that?
Terinobol?
Terinobol?
Terinobol structure.
Alright, but USADA, who's doing this?
They know what the fuck they're doing, and they're not going to come out with a result unless they're super sure that that's what they're tested positive for.
I don't know if this guy's right.
jamie vernon
That's what I don't know either.
He's just sort of speculating, I would imagine.
I don't know if he wasn't there either.
joe rogan
I talked to Jeff Nowitzki off-mic, on-mic.
I talked to him around the arena.
He is...
He's about as honest as it comes when it comes to handling these situations with these athletes.
They're catching people.
And the people they're catching, we're using.
The way they're doing it is very thorough.
The way they're handling it is very thorough.
And there hasn't been anybody with a credible story that came forth that didn't have something in their system that they weren't supposed to have in their system.
We haven't had a case of that yet as far as I know.
I think almost all cases have been either tainted supplements or someone getting caught.
Whether it's taking a diuretic or someone getting caught taking a steroid.
There's a lot going on like that.
And he's got, you know, they have a team of people that are just constantly checking people that might be cheating.
brian redban
I guess you have to also say it's where there's smoke, there's fire.
How many fighters never have a steroid in them?
joe rogan
There's a few.
BJ Penn, I'm sure.
I used to think it would be John Fitch, but then John Fitch tested positive.
But he was getting older and he was fighting and the World Series of Fighting wasn't in the UFC anymore.
He might have been dealing with some serious injuries, needed to pay his bills through fighting.
I don't begrudge anybody, especially when they're not even in the UFC. And the testing that they do in a lot of these organizations is like, there's a lot of organizations that have guys that are pretty much openly using.
And what they do is they have these guys fight on Indian reservations or fighting weird states that have an athletic commission that doesn't really adhere to the rules.
Or it doesn't have to.
It's not very strict.
Especially the Indian reservation thing.
Native American reservations, they do whatever the fuck they want, man.
They're a country inside our country.
But USADA, they look up your ass, man.
They look up your ass.
They come get you.
They come get you and they wake you up.
Hey, man.
Hey, how you doing?
Hey, I'm going to look at your dick and I'm going to watch piss come out of your dick.
It's going to go in this cup and then you can go back to sleep.
It's no joke.
And to see a guy like John with just spectacular, just spectacular comeback fight.
You know, I mean like a phoenix, he rises from the ashes.
He gave this really classy post-fight speech.
He won by just Overwhelming devastation.
I mean, it was a beautiful combination with the left high kick, then a series of shots, Daniel goes down, he just beats him unconscious in a spectacular performance, and then to find out that it's tainted by some fucking gross steroid that they were sneaking in.
It's either that or, again, the other one, which is almost equally gross, that somebody gave it to him.
Somebody gave him some, hey man, hey champ, have this Gatorade champ.
Hey champ, I got you a Gatorade champ.
Crack.
brian redban
And they're very accessible, these fighters.
They're just going to the gyms like you go to a lot of times.
joe rogan
If you're not fighting, John, he's a great guy.
He's a great guy.
Great guy.
People love him.
I think that we don't know.
It just makes me sad.
It makes me sad.
But one day, you know, one day they'll have it eradicated.
But by then, I think there's going to be some new methods.
I think they're going to have genetic methods.
That's the next one.
They're pretty, not pretty close, but they're pretty close to being able to alter embryos.
And to be able to change, like, genes in people, maybe even shut off dangerous genes, like genes for Alzheimer's and different diseases that people have.
They might be able to literally create the tools to edit that in the embryonic stage.
There's something called CRISPR, and that's one of the things that they're using to alter genes.
It's like C-R-I-S-P-R, I think it is.
jamie vernon
Did you see the video of someone used it to make, like, neon green beer?
Or something like that?
joe rogan
They used CRISPR to make neon green beer?
Would they use, like, so they did something to the wheat?
Awesome!
brian redban
They made a new color chocolate.
The first time in, like, a hundred years they made a new chocolate.
unidentified
Oh, we're fucking around with nature.
joe rogan
That's why Hurricane Irma is going to eat Florida.
brian redban
They also recently took the West Nile virus and pumped it into rats and it killed cancer, which is crazy.
So you're taking one crazy thing and killing another crazy thing with it.
joe rogan
What?
The West Nile virus cures cancer.
brian redban
Yeah.
In mice or whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the thing.
It's like, there's a lot of shit that we eat that animals can't even touch or they die.
This biohacker, what does it say again?
Wants to spur a genetic engineering revolution with glowing beer.
brian redban
Oh, that seems healthy.
Like, I'm worried about aspartame.
jamie vernon
Genetically engineered yeast.
joe rogan
Imagine how bad your pee smells.
Like, think about how bad your pee smells when you eat asparagus.
Cutting edge genetic engineering technique CRISPR. Yeah.
Wow.
That's how they did it.
That's insane.
That's insane.
jamie vernon
He sells the kits too, apparently.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
You can buy a kit to genetically engineer through CRISPR your wheat to glow.
brian redban
It's pretty badass.
joe rogan
That's insane!
brian redban
It's got to be bad for you.
joe rogan
It's totally got to be bad for you.
Or good.
I'm waiting for one of these fucking problems that we have to turn us into superheroes.
Because that was what we always saw in the comic books.
Right?
Every time there was a nuclear spill, dude came out of it with x-ray vision.
Right?
jamie vernon
But the government also immediately found the guy and took him and hit him and did tests on him so the public wouldn't be scared.
joe rogan
Tried to, bro.
Tried to.
Most of the time they were free.
brian redban
It already happened.
Autism.
Now they're like some of the best, like, Navy...
Like coders.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, there's without a doubt some super genius people with autism.
And then there's people that are on that spectrum, you know?
Autism and also Asperger's and a lot of different...
Disorders that allows them to focus on stuff with laser-like precision.
Their brains work different.
There's a lot of thought to that.
That's the next style of person.
That we're so connected to our devices and to the internet and to...
Like we're gonna like lose our interaction with each other and lose our emotions and then it might manifest itself through a series of like weird errors Like a disease or a disorder and that disorder becomes favorable and that favorable disorder of just not really getting attached to things Just focusing on your work like a drone like some sort of crazy robot number crunching robot Like there's it's a hundred percent possible that if you we know there are some people like that, right?
So if there are some people that are just super genius coders that just zone out and can code like crazy and they're kind of on the spectrum, if there's one of those, there could be a thousand.
If there's a thousand, there could be a million.
If there's a million, they could start breeding and making a bunch of other ones like that.
And maybe it's something you pass on in your genes.
Maybe we pass on more in our genes than we know.
Next thing you know, you got robot people.
Like, we slowly but surely integrate with our chips and fucking different, you know, Qualcomm chips in your brain.
Your phone is now a part of your body.
Robot people with abilities to call each other and connect online.
Like, what if that's, like, what if nature's trying to engineer our humanness out of us?
Slowly morph it, change it, make it more compatible to staying in front of computer screens constantly, crunching numbers?
brian redban
People's hands start growing different because everyone's holding cell phones their whole life.
Their eyes get farther apart like Chance the Rapper.
joe rogan
You know what fascinates me when people have autistic kids, then the kids show massive improvement from a change of diet or from cannabis.
Cannabis oil for a lot of kids is a massive improvement, stops their seizures, makes them start interacting with other kids better.
I wonder if that is what...
I mean, I don't think they'd know a specific cause for autism or any of the spectrum disorders, right?
brian redban
No.
I mean, I always just blame cell phones and Wi-Fi.
joe rogan
I've also heard...
Yeah, that could be, right?
I've also heard gut bacteria be blamed for a bunch of them.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were saying that a lack of probiotics in the diet, poor gut bacteria, could be blamed for certain issues and disorders that some people have.
jamie vernon
I found neurons in the gut, right?
I mean, if those two things are true, that makes sense.
joe rogan
Well, if your gut bacteria is essentially like a community, right?
You have like a community of flora inside your stomach, and the more bad stuff you put in there, And then also, like, other people would be way more susceptible than some.
You know, like, just like today, there's people that can eat things and maybe have mild allergies.
And then there's someone like you or I that could eat the exact same thing and have no issue with it whatsoever.
That's got to be the same with gut flora.
It's got to be the same with, I mean, we're so biologically variable.
But just imagine if that's just a step in a long process of people.
I mean, like, you look at, like, super genius autistic people.
We, as far as we know, I mean, they might have existed hundreds of years ago, but we don't know of them, right?
We're just guessing.
This is a fairly recent thing.
What if it becomes something even different in a hundred years from now?
What if it's these people that know how to read each other's minds, and only they can do it.
They can all read each other's minds.
They can probably read our minds, but we can never read theirs.
And they're just talking to each other.
And we're like, hey, what are you talking about?
What are you guys talking about?
Like, we're going to be left behind.
Like, our stupid genes, we're going to be left behind.
And these people without...
What if, like, war just stops?
Because autistic people just have no desire to go to war.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They're like, nope, just rather sit around here and code.
You know, or whatever the next stage is.
Like, if autism or Asperger's or any of these things are a new thing, I don't know if they are, but if they are a new thing, just imagine what another new thing could be that takes it to another place and a next level.
brian redban
People that don't keep their VR helmets on all the time.
Like, you're living the real world?
What's wrong with you?
joe rogan
Well, you gotta think, man.
If evolution is true, and I'm assuming it is, we used to be super primitive, right?
We used to be some sort of primitive primate thing.
And then there was a bunch of different versions of us, and we branched out, and we were the most successful, and we made it to today.
So that means we changed.
So why would we assume we're done?
That's crazy.
We're getting more input now than ever before, and we're assuming we're done?
We're not even the same people from the 1950s.
We're not.
We're totally different.
brian redban
I wonder if our brains are going to start using more because we are...
joe rogan
Or less.
brian redban
Or less.
But I mean, we're pretty much like, you know, we're using our brains way more than we were 20 years ago.
20 years ago, instead of like researching and reading and like reading pretty much, we were just probably sitting there looking at colors, you know, or something.
joe rogan
It would have been way easier back then to be a con man.
Nobody could do any research on you.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Well, I was raising a Buddhist monster.
joe rogan
Eddie had the greatest fucking story about that.
Eddie Bravo was taking karate or kung fu from this dude that said he had to go to China to learn from, you know, some kung fu masters.
And Eddie was so proud.
He's like, wow, my instructor is one of the greatest instructors in the world.
He's going to go to China, learn from some kung fu master.
And then he saw him at a supermarket or some shit.
The dude's car was parked in front.
He's like, that can't be him.
He got in the car, he drove off.
He's like, what the fuck?
I thought that dude was in China.
He just totally lied.
Not only did he lie, but he was so stupid, he stayed around the neighborhood.
Wow.
jamie vernon
Gotta go on vacation for that.
joe rogan
He just lied to his students and was pretending he was off gathering knowledge from the masters.
There was a lot of those guys, man, that had, like, fake karate classes.
They had, like, fake martial arts schools.
They were teaching, like, nonsense.
And they would have this crazy background on the wall, you know, seven-time undefeated Marine Corps bare-knuckle no-holds-barred champion.
They would make up a bunch of shit.
There was a lot of those dudes, man.
brian redban
My favorite YouTube videos.
joe rogan
Oh my god, so many of them.
There's so many of them.
brian redban
It's like the religious people.
Like, you know, people falling on the ground or getting thrown by the room by the pastor and stuff.
It's the same kind of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, in a lot of ways.
But that's like the other side of the placebo effect, right?
It's like the other side.
Those people, when that guy does that thing and they go flying through the air and their bodies start shaking, do you think they feel something?
Like, what do you think is going on?
Are they just totally faking it?
brian redban
I think it's dumb people, man.
I think it's all dumb people.
I think it's low-watt brains that just, they're easy to trick into believing in anything.
I mean, look at half the world.
joe rogan
Yeah.
For sure, that's a possibility.
But I want to know, like, are they doing it?
Are they conscious of what they're doing?
Like, are they willfully giving in to this because they want the guy to like them?
And like, he comes up to you and he's like, and you're like, or are they really feeling it?
I mean, are they convincing them?
Is it a placebo effect?
Are they convincing themselves?
brian redban
I think so.
joe rogan
You think so?
brian redban
Yeah.
I think dumb people can really do a lot that we can't even fathom.
joe rogan
It's like we were saying, if you really believe that there is makeup, it doesn't even have to be Jesus or our gods, I don't want to offend anybody, but if somebody really believed that Odin had carved his path in eternity and that his destiny was chosen for him by the gods and he would go forth with that kind of confidence,
If you really believe that Odin has carved a path for you to destiny, and you really believe that, that's got to be a powerful weapon.
Just having that belief, there's something to that.
Whether it's real or not, it might become real because you think it's real.
The placebo effect is just one little sliver of this weird I don't think we understand it 100%.
I don't.
Like, all that's going on, you know?
Like, he picked up that box, he moved it over there.
Like, physical acts are all that's going on.
I don't think so, man.
I think there's, like, there's some weird connection that we're all sharing that's getting closer and closer.
It's getting weirder and weirder.
People are getting shittier and nicer at the same time.
It's happening, there's a boiling point.
I think people are way nicer than they ever were before.
You know what we use as an example?
The bro hug.
People didn't bro hug back in the day.
They shook hands.
We were talking about that new stand-up show on Showtime.
I'm dying up here.
And one of the things Bill Burr said, he goes, they got the handshake wrong.
He was talking about it last night.
He's like, he goes, they hugged.
He goes, nobody hugged back then.
He goes, they would do like a low five or something like that.
And he's like, I was like, you're right.
You're right.
They didn't hug like that.
brian redban
They did like the knuckle thing back then, though.
Maybe.
joe rogan
High fives, for sure.
I still like a high five.
I think high five is silly.
It's fun.
I like high fiving people.
What's up?
brian redban
I always miss people's high fives, and I feel like an idiot.
Like, I'm always like...
joe rogan
High five to me is, like, fun.
Like, high five is fun.
Like, a handshake, you could just be cordial and friendly, but this has got some fun to it.
jamie vernon
When's the last time you did a low five?
brian redban
What's that?
joe rogan
Man, I can't even remember.
Because you've got to get a low five back.
That's the problem with a low five.
High five is egalitarian.
Everyone's equal.
It's just high five.
Low five, we have to decide.
Well, who's hitting who?
Are you hitting me or am I hitting you?
Are you going to hit me first and then I'm going to hit you back?
jamie vernon
How's this work?
joe rogan
Okay, you go first.
Ready, go.
Slap, slap.
Nobody does that anymore.
Slap, slap.
brian redban
Yeah, I haven't done that in a long time.
joe rogan
What's up, bro?
Because people figured out we don't have to do this.
We can just do this.
It's better.
What's up?
Like, I feel happy when I give people high fives.
brian redban
I'm a knuckle guy, man.
Just too much pink eye, too much...
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta wash your phone, man.
I was reading this thing about cell phones.
They were saying they're dirtier than half the toilets of the world.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because you never wash your phone.
You touch everything.
You're like, God, wash your hands.
You're just touching your ass.
You pick up your phone.
You're checking your Twitter.
You're smudging all kinds of weird fucking biomes all over your screen.
brian redban
I saw those butt wipes where they have the little container where you pull the butt wipes out.
Those things, you reuse them.
But if you think about it, though, around where you're grabbing it, like, I need another one.
I need another one.
I got some on my finger.
joe rogan
Oh, you're right.
For sure that happens.
For sure that happens if you mess up.
brian redban
I just use the packs.
I don't even use the box anymore.
joe rogan
And you gotta be careful with those things, too, because you don't want to get antibacterial butt wipes.
You don't want to use antibacterial stuff on your body unless it's natural stuff.
I used to do jujitsu with this dude who got ringworm, and after he got ringworm, he started putting antibacterial soap all over his body, but that killed all of his natural skin flora, and then he got it everywhere.
It was crazy.
brian redban
How much did he use?
I mean, because I use the...
joe rogan
Antibacterial soap.
That, like, hardcore shit.
brian redban
Not the key tree stuff.
joe rogan
You know, it looks amber.
Looks like that stuff they extract the insect DNA out in Jurassic Park.
That stuff.
Like, it stinks.
Like, you can smell the chemicals on it.
Yeah.
That's hand antibacterial soap.
And a lot of people that would get ringworm or something like that, they would use that on their whole body.
But the problem with that stuff is it kills everything.
It kills all the stuff that's fighting off the ringworm, too.
It kills everything.
It just nukes the territory.
brian redban
Yeah, I use tea tree for all that crap.
joe rogan
Tea tree's the shit.
brian redban
I use the shit.
I just hate the smell.
joe rogan
Eucalyptus.
Eucalyptus oil.
There's a company called Defense Soap.
I talk about them all the time.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
They're not a sponsor, but the guy's awesome.
And his stuff is amazing for that.
Like, keeping healthy skin floor.
We just have to think of our bodies, whether it's your gut floor, your skin floor, all that stuff.
You've got to think of your body as an ecosystem, you know?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brian redban
Defense soap is really great.
I use that all the time.
Do you ever use it for jujitsu?
Is that what it's made for?
joe rogan
Well, he made it for grappling, but it's great for just skin.
It's just good for your skin.
It's not chemically.
brian redban
Because I use it as my soap.
Yeah, you can totally do that.
Yeah, it's not bad for you.
joe rogan
It's not bad for you at all.
It's good for your skin.
That's the thing about it.
It's not damaging the healthy stuff.
There's no poisons.
Antibacterial soaps are a lot of times really heavy chemicals that are just stripping away everything.
Bacteria lives on our skin, and a lot of it is good.
Apparently, that's like staphs all over you all the time.
When people get an infection, and it's a staph infection, what it is is you get an open sore, and then your body, for whatever reason, can't fight off That staff that's already there that's now getting into your bloodstream and you get infected and it swells up and gets nasty.
And then there's that MRSA staff.
That staff that they get at hospitals because people have been taking antibiotics for so long.
They have medication resistant staff.
It scares the fuck out of people.
You have to be on like IV drugs for weeks sometimes.
People are just wrecked.
Wrecked by it.
Happens to a lot of fighters, man.
It's like the silent killer of fight careers is MRSA. Not with that hole?
Kevin Randeman.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
We don't know if that was MRSA or just untreated staph.
I don't know if it was MRSA or just regular staph.
brian redban
Poor guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, Kevin had it bad.
I've seen a lot of guys have it bad.
I've seen guys with holes.
It looks like somebody stabbed them in a leg and it was just their body was, I think it's called necrophying or something like that.
Yeah, when you're, yeah, necrophying.
That's not the word.
What is the word?
jamie vernon
That's necrophying.
joe rogan
No, yeah, but there's a word that when your skin starts becoming dead in certain areas because a lot of it's like widow bites will do that, brown recluse bites will do that, staph infection will do that too.
Yeah.
brian redban
There's a lot of widows.
jamie vernon
I forget the term.
joe rogan
Yeah, I forget the term.
But it's something necro.
It does something to your skin.
There's a lot of those fucking creepy little bugs that'll do that too, man.
Ever seen what it looks like when someone gets bitten by a brown recluse?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Fuck, dude.
If you don't take care of it really quickly, it can go super bad.
Those things eat through your body.
brian redban
We sleep in so many hotels and shit.
Have you ever had bed bugs?
joe rogan
No, I haven't, but you could definitely get it.
brian redban
I feel like I get bug bites every time.
joe rogan
Look at all those holes.
That's all from a brown recluse bite.
Oh, fuck.
brian redban
Are those in LA or California?
joe rogan
No, right?
Yeah, they have some of them in California, but I think they're more in the Midwest.
But they definitely have them here.
Yeah.
Look at that.
Yeah.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Mostly around there.
So it mostly looks like some Texas and a lot of the south.
It's a fucking scary ass bug, man.
unidentified
Bruh!
joe rogan
That's scary.
Ten sharks found in the home's basement pool.
What?
jamie vernon
Some guy in New York had ten sharks that were in a 15-foot above-ground pool in his basement.
Three of them were dead when they found them.
brian redban
What the fuck?
jamie vernon
Seven were still alive.
brian redban
Why?
jamie vernon
Because people were crazy.
joe rogan
Because he's out of his fucking mind.
Wow.
Well, he might have, okay, they were two feet to four feet long.
Those are little sharks.
He might have been trying to do some sort of a deal to put a fish tank in somebody's house, and he acquired these sharks for it.
Or, he's a nutty dude, and he wanted to keep sharks in his basement.
brian redban
Fuck sharks.
joe rogan
But here's the thing, like, I knew people that had sharks in their fish tanks.
Like, everyone's all gung-ho to save the sharks now.
That was not the case, like, 10, 15 years ago when people had swimming pools, or not swimming pools, fish tanks, like crazy fish tanks.
Sometimes people would have, like, little sharks.
brian redban
You used to have crazy fish.
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to have piranhas, allegedly.
brian redban
That was crazy.
joe rogan
This may or may not be true.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Piranhas aren't exactly legal.
jamie vernon
I might have found some in a friend's house in Bowling Green one time.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're boring.
They're boring until it's go time.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you're like, whoa.
brian redban
I want to get like a, not octopus, what's those things that glow in the black lights?
jamie vernon
Jellyfish.
brian redban
Jellyfish.
I want to get a jellyfish aquarium.
You can, I guess, get that with the lights, so it just looks like you have a ghost in the corner of your house.
joe rogan
They die easy, though, unfortunately.
Yeah, I was talking to a scientist about it, and she was explaining that.
They have, like, Mandalay Bay has this...
You ever seen that thing where they have the jelly...
Ooh, that's a tank of jellyfish that you could buy?
Little tiny jellyfish?
brian redban
Yeah.
Look at how cool it is, but you can buy big ones, too.
joe rogan
That's pretty dope.
But she was explaining that they have to constantly, like, shuffle them in.
They, like, take out the dead ones, put in the new ones, and they breed them there.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Did you ever see the one they have at Mandalay Bay, dude?
It's the shit.
brian redban
Yeah, in the little tank.
joe rogan
It's like a circular one, and it lights up different colors.
Dude, it's beautiful.
Look at these guys.
brian redban
Hey, wait.
unidentified
You like jellyfish?
joe rogan
They look too much like twins to be boyfriends, right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
That would be so creepy.
They're boyfriends, and they were that close to each other.
That's a weird thing to have laying around.
What do they eat?
unidentified
I think just algae.
joe rogan
Oh, so is this like a GoFundMe or some shit?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's what I pulled up.
It just was a better tank.
joe rogan
The one they had at Mandalay Bay was badass, because it was this big, like, acrylic cylinder.
And they're all swimming around it, and they're changing the colors, and you're like, whoa.
brian redban
Yeah, I think that'd be cool to have.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're alive, man.
I mean, it's...
They're alive, but...
Is that it?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't...
I don't remember them having...
Wow.
jamie vernon
Tales like that.
joe rogan
That's the one in Mandalay Bay.
I'm probably conflating it with one from one of the aquariums that I've been to, but fuck, that's beautiful.
Look how pretty they are.
brian redban
Can you imagine doing mushrooms and just looking at that shit?
joe rogan
They're so pretty, but it seems kind of fucked to have them trapped in a tube.
They're just swimming around.
They can't go anywhere.
Like, isn't part of the magic of being a jellyfish is the fact that you're a jellyfish in the ocean and you just are constantly moving through the ocean or have we decided that the jellyfish is too primitive for it to truly experience the majesty of the ocean and fuck him, get in the tube, and gamblers just gonna stare at you.
I mean, that's essentially what we decided.
jamie vernon
Feed?
brian redban
I wonder what you feed.
joe rogan
They feed at least once a day.
Is that what they're saying?
Baby brine shrimp.
brian redban
So like sea monkeys.
They eat sea monkeys.
joe rogan
God, they're so weird looking.
You know what's interesting?
If we found...
Oh, you have to have a separate tank for all that stuff?
Looks like you have two tanks.
What is that?
That's the baby brine shrimp?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
brian redban
Oh, weird.
It looks like beef jerky.
joe rogan
How bizarre.
Oh, they're in those little sheets?
brian redban
Snap into a section.
joe rogan
Oh, how strange.
jamie vernon
You have to put it in a baster and squeeze it in there or something.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Huh, weird.
joe rogan
The size and number of jellies would determine how much to feed.
Oh, you have to be, like, really specific.
Fuck that.
brian redban
Is this overfeeding?
Get some fat jellyfish?
joe rogan
No, they're gonna die, dude.
Or they're gonna get out into their toilets, and they're like, oh, look how they feed them, man.
That's crazy.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
They just squirted out there.
brian redban
I wonder if they know.
joe rogan
Okay, I'm back in.
I was out, now I'm back in.
I'll figure it out.
I'll just, I'll do the right thing.
brian redban
Right.
unidentified
I'll measure it out.
brian redban
And I'm sure a dead jellyfish looks just the same.
You know, it's just floating.
joe rogan
They're not moving enough, though.
You want them moving, man.
Look, look who's pouring it in there.
Look at them all eating.
That's crazy.
They're actually reacting.
Here's the thing, like, they're so primitive, we probably don't feel that bad when they die.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Like, if a goldfish dies, you're like, oh, poor little dude.
brian redban
Because eyeballs.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
brian redban
They had eyeballs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They have faces, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, people, I've heard people say, don't eat anything with a face.
But they usually don't eat oysters, those people.
You know, like...
Gotta eat oysters, man.
brian redban
Oh, I love oysters until you have bad oysters.
I had some bad oysters the other day.
joe rogan
I definitely have before.
brian redban
That's the worst.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, there's a possibility, right?
You're eating something raw.
brian redban
Yeah.
Did you know there's so many different kinds of oysters?
Like, I never knew that.
There's like tons of different kinds of oysters.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know a lot about them, but if you go to a place, they give you a variety.
You get like a dozen, you get three of each.
You're like, whoa, look at these Kumamoto's.
There's a lot in the Pacific Northwest.
I know people around the Seattle area, they actually go out and get them and get clams and stuff like that.
brian redban
There's a certain kind that you're not supposed to eat anymore because of some kind of pollution levels or something like that.
Oh really?
joe rogan
They go clamming in the Pacific Northwest.
They get big ass clams too, man.
They go digging them right on the shore.
Bring a bucket and just dig into the sand and pop those fuckers out.
That's pretty badass.
You can go find some clams.
brian redban
Santa Barbara has the biggest oyster farm for a while.
Really?
It's huge.
You go out and have these underground cages and they lift them up.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
brian redban
They just pick them and eat them.
That's good enough.
joe rogan
Hmm.
I wonder how much they're affected by pollution.
brian redban
I think it's a lot.
joe rogan
What's up?
jamie vernon
Aren't they not fully used for pollution, but don't they clean the...
joe rogan
Shit out of the ground?
jamie vernon
Yeah, clean the water.
I thought that's what they're...
They're kind of like the ocean filters.
joe rogan
Hmm.
Well, that's what lobsters are, right?
Lobsters and crabs, they eat all the dead shit.
Isn't that interesting?
They're so goddamn delicious and all they eat is rotten shit all the time.
brian redban
It's weird.
joe rogan
Lobsters are so delicious.
Sometimes you forget.
Sometimes you forget and then you get a Maine lobster when you dip them in butter and you're like, good God, this is fucking delicious.
jamie vernon
Yeah, check this out.
Here's a time-lapse of oysters filtering water.
unidentified
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Super dirty water here.
brian redban
Wow.
jamie vernon
A couple hours go by.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
brian redban
Did they just poop them out, though?
joe rogan
They're making oysters, bitch.
Just throw a bunch of sand in that water.
See what the fuck goes down.
Yeah, it seems like they're filtering the waters.
brian redban
That's crazy.
There it is.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
Look, nature has a plan for all its little weird things.
And I bet they have all sorts of...
I mean, you think about...
That we need plants for oxygen, right?
Plants actually create oxygen and we create carbon dioxide and plants live off carbon dioxide.
It's weird how there's all these like little relationships that all these different beings have, like back and forth all over nature.
So many of them, man.
So many weird parasites and symbiotic relationships that animals have with each other.
It's a dome, bro.
It's flat.
It's a dome.
It's all simulation.
brian redban
I'm blown away.
I just got a dehumidifier the other day, yesterday, and how much water you can pull out of your air.
Like, I've already, it's a 70-gallon drum, or a tank, and I've already emptied it three times.
joe rogan
Seventy?
brian redban
Seventy.
Pint.
Seventy pints.
Sorry, not calories.
Seventy pints.
joe rogan
Do you know how big that is?
brian redban
Seventy pints.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
Think of a gallon of milk.
brian redban
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
You don't think of 70 of them.
unidentified
No, no.
joe rogan
That's like a swimming pool.
brian redban
Seventy pints.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you doing in your house, man?
brian redban
But it's a pretty huge bucket of water in just like four hours that's just pulled out of my house.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, it's just like from your body?
brian redban
No, it's from any air.
See, we've been using our air conditioning so much lately that mine started like leaking everywhere.
I was like, God damn it.
joe rogan
Oh, so you think it's making the house wet?
brian redban
Yeah, it's making my floors fucked.
Really?
Yeah, so I'm trying to suck all the water out of it, everything.
So it just pulls it from the air and, you know, humidity and stuff.
joe rogan
That's weird because LA is pretty dry.
brian redban
Yeah, but not lately.
It's been pretty shitty.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's not shitty.
We need water, man.
We barely got away with what we got last winter.
That kind of brought everything back to pretty normal, but like...
Like Lake Tahon, the Tahon Ranch, still half full of water.
That's what my, uh, from, like, my personal experience, what I can see about how weird the drought was.
There was a lake that we used to drop people out of helicopters into at Fear Factor.
And it went away.
Like, the lake didn't exist anymore.
There was no lake.
All the fish died.
All of them.
There were huge fish in that lake.
Like, big, largemouth bass.
They were all over the place, man.
People would go from miles around to go fish there.
unidentified
Dead.
brian redban
Still dead today?
joe rogan
There's nothing there.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
It's a little bit of water now.
A little bit of water.
Like maybe like...
Last time I was there, I'd have to go see it again to get a good read on it.
But the last time I talked to somebody who was there, it was like half full.
brian redban
You know what would be interesting?
joe rogan
Which means it's really shallow.
brian redban
If it gets rain and it comes back to life, how long it would take for the first fish to find its way there?
joe rogan
Dude, it'd probably be a million years.
brian redban
Or a seagull just accidentally drops one in.
joe rogan
See, the thing about these...
What is that?
jamie vernon
I think that's it.
The Lake Castaic?
joe rogan
No, that's Lake Astaic.
So Lake Astaic in 2017 looks pretty good.
It's back.
That's nice.
Yeah, that's another place where we used to drop people out of helicopters.
I was talking about Tahoe Lake, though.
jamie vernon
I typed that in, I thought, and this is what came up instead.
joe rogan
Well, that's pretty close.
It's on the way.
But, yeah, that place has giant striped bass.
I saw the stuntmen on Fear Factor, they would go fishing, like, in between stunts.
They had, like, a lunch break.
And these guys caught these, like, in, like, 20 minutes, caught these giant-ass striped bass.
That place is awesome.
But that was half gone, you know?
So we got to see it with...
Our own eyes.
Like places like drying up.
And just because it caught it and it turned around because the weather changed, doesn't mean it can't happen instead of three, four years, five, six years.
How about 30 years?
30 years of no rain.
Go fuck yourself.
That can happen.
brian redban
I think it's going to be the opposite.
I think just how bad of rain that we had last year, I think this winter, I think we're just going to get pounded.
Like all the Burbank mountains with all the fires, I think we're going to get flooded now from all the mudslides that that's going to cause because I think this end of the world shit's just continuing to go on.
joe rogan
See, I don't think it really is the end of the world.
And it's not even the end of us.
It's just that what we thought was permanent was very fragile.
And that fucks with our head.
But you just got to go into it knowing that.
You can't think that those hills are going to stay up.
They're going to slide.
Those houses are going to slide.
There's some fucking people that built their houses like this.
Like, hanging off the side of a cliff with, like, spikes into the side of the hill.
You've seen those houses.
There's a lot of those, right?
Like, on Laurel, you look at that house, you go, where's that one gonna go?
That's gonna slide down here.
Remember they shut down Laurel Canyon, like, a few months back?
Because one of the porches, back porch, like, 9,000 fucking pounds slid down the hill, all concrete and shit.
brian redban
And you know that's gonna happen to the comedy store at one point.
Like, every time it rains...
joe rogan
Oh, the house behind it?
brian redban
Every time it rains, I'm scared to fuck to be in that house.
joe rogan
That house is preposterous.
brian redban
That's stupid.
I would hate to live in that house.
joe rogan
That was that Robert De Niro movie, Heat?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Wow, what a crazy view they must have, though.
There's a lot of those houses, man.
Look at that.
That is...
You have to be such an optimist.
Everything's gonna be alright.
Like, look at that fucking house.
Look at that thing up on giant ass metal poles.
brian redban
Seems like such a bad idea.
joe rogan
And every night you hear some crazy homeless man sawing at your pole.
brian redban
Oh my gosh!
joe rogan
You look down, get the fuck away from there, man!
Trying to sleep!
Is that a saw?
unidentified
Nah, man, I don't know if that's a saw.
joe rogan
You go to bed.
jamie vernon
Check out this ad form from 1969. None of those are the safest buildings as far as landslides and earth tremors are concerned.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that is hilarious.
brian redban
None of those exist anymore.
joe rogan
Oh, let me read this.
The cliff dwellings amongst the safest of all buildings as far as landslides and earth tremors.
Are concerned are supported by steel girders planted deep in the ground, anchored to heavy iron bells far below the surface.
Actually, that gets me kind of excited.
I like that they engineered the shit out of it like that.
That's actually, I like when someone solves, like, what seems like a...
Alright, I'm on board now.
I want a stilt house with metal bells.
So it's like your house is supported by kettle bells, motherfucker.
brian redban
Yeah, until...
I don't know.
They probably didn't have a 5.0 earthquake.
They were probably like, oh, these are good for the strongest earthquakes at 3.4.
joe rogan
Maybe it's good for all earthquakes.
You don't know shit, bro.
brian redban
But none of these houses exist anymore.
joe rogan
Jamie, there was one in the upper right-hand corner that's one of my favorite pictures.
You scroll up past this.
The spaceship house.
brian redban
I love that house.
joe rogan
That house is the shit.
I don't know who owns that house, but that is the fucking coolest house of all time.
brian redban
I think it was just sold recently.
joe rogan
I would never want to live there.
brian redban
That seems like the perfect house for you, though.
joe rogan
It's too freaky.
I would go deep.
I need to stay calm.
Like, if I lived in a spaceship, I don't trust myself.
brian redban
I just got to go to Ron White's house recently.
It's a nice house.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know Ron's story, what happened?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He went out of town, came back, and there was a leak on the first floor, and it flooded, well, on the top floor, the third floor, rather, and it flooded down to the second and the first floor, filling all of them up with water.
brian redban
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
And he just had it finished now.
joe rogan
Fuck.
brian redban
Yeah, but it's cool.
He has like a recording studio in there and like a bar.
It's like a pimp house.
joe rogan
I'm sure it is.
Ron White's the shit.
brian redban
He's a badass.
joe rogan
I love that guy.
brian redban
He was just in Austin doing a benefit show with Eliza and Chris D'Elia and they raised like $250,000 in just one show.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's awesome, man.
unidentified
Sweet.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
I heard about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, Ron White's fucking fantastic.
brian redban
I love that man.
joe rogan
He's beautiful.
He's an animal.
brian redban
You ever hear of an app called Nextdoor?
joe rogan
Nextdoor?
brian redban
Nextdoor.
It's one of the greatest things ever.
It's like Reddit for your neighborhood.
joe rogan
Oh no.
brian redban
So it's pretty much you log in and you have to live in this neighborhood or you can't get in.
It's a pretty much kind of thing.
And it's like, it's cool because there's little things like, hey, I got this dresser, if anyone wants it, or things like that.
But it's also like, hey, I saw a black guy the other day in the neighborhood.
joe rogan
It's like Tony Hinchcliffe's bit.
brian redban
Which one?
joe rogan
The mass text bit.
brian redban
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like that.
Don't say anymore.
I don't want to give away his bit.
brian redban
But it's the most addicting thing ever, and it's very helpful if you have a lost pet or a cat, or if...
But it's one of my favorite things to read now.
I just go home.
I'm giddy about it.
Like, oh, what's going on?
joe rogan
We do have an interface that allows you to communicate with people like straight to your head.
How How quickly do you think you'd adopt it?
How quickly do you think you'd try it?
brian redban
I guess if you could turn it off, I would try it pretty close.
joe rogan
Why do you trust the government, man?
unidentified
Fake the moon landing six times, man!
brian redban
Yeah, I'm worried about my car right now being hacked.
It's a little too much.
I don't even have an emergency brake anymore.
I have a button that says emergency.
I'm like, no, I want to pull it in case of emergency.
I don't want to push it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like old cars for that.
I like a car that has them fucking e-brakes, baby.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Those are the ones you want, too, with the button on the top.
You don't want the stomp e-brake.
That's for assholes.
Because you can't even control it.
You gotta, like, stomp it and then pull it back up.
And, like, you don't have, like, a...
You can actually, like, control the e-brake with the lever a little bit.
You can get yourself to go sideways with that thing.
brian redban
My car has a bug.
jamie vernon
That's why they don't have it, probably.
brian redban
Yeah, they probably don't have it for that.
My car has a bug, though, if you plug in your iPhone too early and you don't hit the button that says agree to the maps or whatever.
It's okay.
That goes away.
And then if you have your air conditioning on and other things, you can't turn them off.
So the other day, my stereo was on full blast.
My air conditioning was on full blast.
And I was trying to turn it all off while driving.
I couldn't.
joe rogan
This is your Honda?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
It's an Apple Home or Car or whatever it is.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, CarPlay.
But if you disconnected your phone, would it stop?
brian redban
That's how I did it, but at first I couldn't figure out what was going on.
Jeez.
joe rogan
I've never heard of that before.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's gonna happen.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a dope car, though.
brian redban
I like it, man.
It's cool.
joe rogan
It's a technological tour de force.
brian redban
I could hook up Androids, or it has Android Play on it also.
That's new.
joe rogan
Most of them didn't have it, which is kind of fucked.
I couldn't believe that they were getting away with going with Apple CarPlay only.
Because there's a lot of people that would buy Chevys and GM cars, like Cadillacs in particular.
They have that Apple CarPlay.
Porsches have that Apple CarPlay.
brian redban
I like it, though.
The texting, definitely, I never text while driving anymore, because now I just tell Siri to, hey, text Joe, hey, what's up?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, you could do that with both hands on the wheel.
It's awesome.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like it.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan of some of the new Japanese cars, too, man.
Some of that technology that they're coming over with.
unidentified
Woo!
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They got some incredible shit.
They just put out this new Lexus.
The Lexus LC 500. See if you can find Lexus LC 500 in atomic silver.
They're, like, making future cars.
Like, you know, remember when you were a kid and you thought about cars in the future, like, what they would look like?
This car looks like a future car.
brian redban
Did you see that first flying car?
What?
I saw it yesterday on the news.
I don't know if it was...
I think it was real.
jamie vernon
I saw something about it.
brian redban
Yeah, I don't know if it was real, but it looks like...
joe rogan
I'm sure there would be something.
Look at that thing.
Look at that car.
brian redban
Beautiful.
joe rogan
That's a spaceship.
Look at that thing.
I mean, that looks like some Sylvester Stallone movie from 1998. You know, the year 2060. Yeah, especially in atomic silver.
There's something about that silver color that looks...
That's a rendering.
But that's a ridiculous looking car.
brian redban
Cars are so sexy nowadays.
I really like them.
joe rogan
Well, they can do so much now.
They break for you.
They recognize objects on the side.
They give you warnings.
brian redban
Yeah, mine has that lane departure.
So like if I'm texting and not paying attention and I go out of my lane, it pushes you back in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Or if somebody stops in front of you, it slams on your brakes.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
brian redban
Yeah, which that kind of freaks me out because what if there isn't something there and it just malfunctions and slams on my brakes, you know?
joe rogan
Well, it probably can happen.
I mean, anything that's automated can fuck up just like a person fucks up.
brian redban
Is this the flying car?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's called the what?
The Lilium Jet?
brian redban
The Lilium Jet.
unidentified
We believe in a world in which everyone can fly anywhere, anytime.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
Anywhere?
Like, what about Hawaii, bitch?
brian redban
What about your old joke?
joe rogan
You gonna fly across the country?
I don't trust that guy.
He looks a little wacky.
And so he's on Adderall.
He's trying to sell me a dream.
The vision becomes a reality.
This is like the beginning of a science fiction movie.
What the fuck are you doing?
Are you bringing in an organism from space that you shouldn't?
brian redban
So this is real?
joe rogan
Is it real?
brian redban
This is the first test flight, it says.
joe rogan
It's probably slow as fuck.
Like a balloon.
brian redban
Wow.
It doesn't look real.
joe rogan
Just floats through the air.
brian redban
Is that real?
joe rogan
Mmm, it might be from the onion.
unidentified
Why do it?
brian redban
It doesn't seem like...
joe rogan
300 kilometers an hour.
So what do we decide that is?
Somewhere around 150?
unidentified
Yeah, 150. That guy takes too much ecstasy.
joe rogan
I don't trust him.
He's got that look in his eyes.
You know that look when a guy's done a lot of ecstasy?
He's just here to party.
He doesn't look real?
jamie vernon
The shadows.
joe rogan
Jamie, how dare you?
brian redban
Look in the comments.
Look in the comments.
joe rogan
Let a man dream, you son of a bitch.
jamie vernon
Clearly fake half the comments section.
brian redban
Oh, God damn it!
joe rogan
You sons of bitches!
brian redban
But does it squeeze juice?
joe rogan
I was reading an article about what they were calling a Russian troll farm.
That they have a like troll farm like make a business out of trolling.
jamie vernon
I met someone recently that his he worked at a meme factory.
brian redban
What?
jamie vernon
And I didn't really ask a lot of more questions about that because I just assumed it was like someone working for that Fuck Jerry account where there's like four or five guys that all work together to just pump out memes all day but he literally was working downtown somewhere and his job description was whatever at a meme factory.
joe rogan
That's kind of hilarious.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
brian redban
What a cool job.
By the way, mad props to some people that actually use the internet.
The guy that writes for Wendy's Twitter, I don't know if you've been following this.
It is some of the funniest shit ever.
Whoever, bravo, you are the king of Twitter.
But people talking shit on Wendy's, he'll come back with some of the best comic timing ever.
joe rogan
Wendy's owned a Twitter troll so hard they deactivated their account.
brian redban
So that's the first one.
Our beef is...
joe rogan
Right.
Your beef is frozen.
We all know it.
Y'all know we laugh at your slogan, fresh, never frozen, right?
Like you're really a joke, Wendy says.
Sorry to hear you think that, but you're wrong.
We've only ever used fresh beef since we were founded in 1969. The other guy says, so you deliver it raw on a hot truck?
He says, where do you store cold things that aren't frozen?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
Y'all should give up.
McDonald's got you guys beat with the dope-ass breakfast.
And then Wendy says, you don't have to bring them into us just because you forgot refrigerators existed for a second there.
brian redban
And they've been doing this for a couple weeks.
joe rogan
That's pretty strong because they didn't even lose their temper.
That's kind of funny.
They handle that really well.
brian redban
Wendy's has been doing this for about a year now, just nonstop.
joe rogan
Listen, I don't like to get burgers on the road.
I don't like to get fast food, but if I do, that's the one I go to.
brian redban
Wendy's all day.
joe rogan
Unless there's an In-N-Out nearby.
And I've got extra time.
Gotta have extra time.
Wendy's will give it to you in a shockingly quick amount of time.
unidentified
So fast.
joe rogan
How is that even possible?
It's actually hot?
What are you, just anticipating selling a certain amount of double cheeseburgers?
brian redban
Wendy's Burbank is also one of the future stores they're testing where you walk in and you order off this huge iPad wall and then your food comes and you don't have to even talk to anybody anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of those now, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The other thing Wendy's does is they let you be a total fucking slob and order a three, a triple cheeseburger.
They have it like right there on the menu.
It doesn't even look crazy.
Like when I go to In-N-Out and I order a three by three, I feel like an asshole.
But with Wendy's, it's like it's right there.
In-N-Out, I'm asking for some shit that doesn't even exist on their menu supposedly.
brian redban
God, that looks good.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Dave's hot and juicier.
Three-quarter triple.
You motherfucker.
Whenever I eat one of those, I'm like, this is such a preposterous sandwich.
jamie vernon
At Fatburger, they have all the pictures on the wall of everyone that's finished the giant fucking triple.
It's so crazy.
It's such a big thing.
It's as big as people's heads.
joe rogan
It's giant.
Speaking of giant, did you see that fucking guy that had a bladder stone that was the size of an ostrich egg?
And he had to get it removed from his body?
brian redban
That was insane.
joe rogan
Dude, that is the craziest thing I've seen in my life.
Like, this guy had a rock inside of his body that his own body made.
Look at the size of that thing.
brian redban
Jesus.
joe rogan
Look at the guy having it in his hand.
brian redban
So what is that made out of?
jamie vernon
On the far right.
brian redban
What is it in calcium?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
That's a good question.
I think that's what it is.
But I don't know.
God, look how big it is.
What do you think it would taste like?
brian redban
Salt.
Salt.
joe rogan
Yeah, why is that any weirder than licking salt that came out of the ground?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Take that, you grind it up, you put it on your steak.
Nobody cares.
brian redban
I would lick my own stone.
I want to lick somebody else's.
joe rogan
Find out.
CT scans of the man's abdomen also revealed another much smaller stone in the man's left ureter, which is the tube that carries the urine from the kidneys to the bladder, according to the report which is published today, blah, blah, blah.
The doctors who treated the man noted that he had invasive bladder cancer more than a decade before he developed the stones.
Well, I wonder how long it took him to make these stones.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Imagine if they just keep making them.
They have to make up fucking...
They have to build a door into his body where they could reach in once a month and pull out an ostrich egg-sized rock.
brian redban
Ew.
joe rogan
Like, how often does one of those things cook up inside your body?
brian redban
It's gotta be years, huh?
joe rogan
That's an issue with...
Not that in particular, but kidney stones are an issue with fighters sometimes that cut a lot of weight.
It becomes a...
Unwanted side effect.
Real bad too, man.
Kidney stones are brutal.
A lot of guys have canceled fights because of kidney stones.
Have you ever had them?
No, I've never had them.
Matt Mitrione actually had them before his Fedor fight, and they had to cancel the first time they were supposed to meet because of kidney stones.
But Matt's a heavyweight, which is even weirder, because heavyweights don't have to dry themselves out.
But some people just genetically are predisposed to getting them.
brian redban
I know somebody gets them.
That's when you pee out, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you pee it out.
brian redban
She gets it maybe every six months.
joe rogan
God, that's horrible.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
I wonder if it's a diet thing.
brian redban
I think it's a little bit of that.
I think it's also just some people just...
Or, you know, get them all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's also, like, the diet thing's just so not fair.
Some people can just scarf.
You know, they can just chow down pizza and shit.
They do it right in front of everybody.
And they look like Teab.
You know?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They never gain any weight.
brian redban
Hinchcliffe.
Hinchcliffe.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
Dude eats pizza every day.
joe rogan
He works out a lot, though.
unidentified
Hinchcliffe does work out a lot.
joe rogan
A good amount.
jamie vernon
I was making fun of him the other night.
He punched my arm.
He's like, what are you doing?
Are you taking something?
I was like, no.
I go to the gym three times a week, Tony.
It's not that hard.
joe rogan
How many times a week do you think Tony's going to the gym?
He's worked out with me before.
jamie vernon
Sort of.
brian redban
I think he's Jason.
joe rogan
He's worked out in the same area as me.
jamie vernon
On the treadmill versus kettlebells?
joe rogan
He lifted some weights.
jamie vernon
He's pretty ripped.
joe rogan
I think he lifts weights.
I think he does a little weightlifting.
brian redban
He's shockingly ripped, though.
joe rogan
I think we finally have a contest with young Jamie.
brian redban
I think Jamie works out way more than Tony.
joe rogan
Tony Hinsgood might be like, I'll take you up on your contest, young Jamie.
We might have to get another one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We still have to figure out what we're going to do with this other one because Ari went back to New York.
jamie vernon
We got nowhere with that, I feel like.
At the end of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, we barely did.
They wanted to wrap it up.
unidentified
No, we're going to finish this.
brian redban
What is it?
joe rogan
Well, we came to one idea, which was a contest between Segura, Bert, Ari, and me, that for 30 days of October, no booze, and you have to do 15 yoga classes.
We all agreed on that one.
15 hot yoga classes.
90-minute classes.
jamie vernon
With no breaks, right?
Or something like that.
joe rogan
No breaks.
Ari wants to take breaks like a bitch.
Ari was going to lose anyway.
I feel like that's one of the reasons why he was saying, well, what about a break?
I'm going to take a break.
If I don't take a break to go and pee, I need to pee.
I'm a Jew.
Jews need to pee.
Remember he said that?
jamie vernon
Look, I'll do it right here.
joe rogan
That didn't even make sense.
He peed twice during the show.
He pulls his dick out and pisses into a kombucha jar twice.
brian redban
He's been doing that shit a lot.
joe rogan
He's a wild man.
He lived in the jungle for four months.
He lived with natives and shit.
He's out there in the forest.
He's crazy.
So he's basically backing out.
He's like, I can't do it.
I can't stand living out of a suitcase.
I'm like, bitch, you were in Asia for four months living out of a backpack, sleeping in hostels.
Now all of a sudden you're back?
You gotta taste the good life?
brian redban
Didn't he also back out?
joe rogan
Is that Ari walking around naked?
Why is he walking around naked?
brian redban
Oh, they went to the desert last night.
joe rogan
Oh, they do mushrooms?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So Ari's just wandering around naked?
brian redban
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
brian redban
The place next to me has a new kind of yoga you should try out.
I want to try it out.
It's outdoors.
It's baby goat yoga.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
brian redban
It's pretty much you do all this yoga, and then there's just baby goats that will climb on you while you're doing it and run around and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Oh, and is it supposed to, like, the baby goats, like, feel good?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
People like it?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
That is hilarious.
brian redban
They did it right next to my house.
I needed to.
joe rogan
Dude, that is fucking hilarious.
So they let these goats...
What if they shit in your face while you're down there?
Nah, they don't.
brian redban
They don't do that.
joe rogan
So these people are doing their yoga, and while they're doing their yoga, they have to do it around these goats.
unidentified
This is hilarious.
joe rogan
Look at the goats just climbing up on them.
brian redban
Yeah.
The guy's probably like, I don't know why I just signed up for this.
joe rogan
Goats have fucking incredible balance, man.
Like, from the box.
Like, right out of snatch, they can climb a tree.
brian redban
Now, you should have baby goats.
unidentified
No.
brian redban
Why not?
joe rogan
Because I had a friend who had goats.
I had a friend who got goats because he has a big piece of land in Topanga, and the goats ate everything.
They don't stop eating, man.
They don't just eat the hay either.
They're like, fuck your hay.
And they just start wandering through your...
Look at that goat.
Climb a tree, man.
brian redban
How does that happen?
joe rogan
Goat climbed a fucking palm tree.
They just can, dude.
brian redban
That's the crazy...
How's it gonna get down?
joe rogan
They climb down.
Dude.
jamie vernon
Do they?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian redban
I am so amazed by baby goats.
I want one so bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, these things are crazy.
Did it fall?
jamie vernon
That's what I was going to say.
Didn't we see videos of eagles coming and swooping these guys down?
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's different.
They grab them off.
They definitely fall.
They have fallen in the past.
They definitely fall.
And animals sometimes, like bears in particular, if you see a bear eating a mountain goat, a lot of times it's because the mountain goat fell.
You know?
Like, bears, most of the time, are not catching mountain goats.
That's one of the reasons why they've adapted to live in these crazy environments, is because predators can't get to them there.
Like, this is what they've done.
They've figured out a way to exist.
Yeah, like, keep that thing there, man.
Hold on.
Jesus Christ.
I want to see what the fuck happens.
jamie vernon
That's amazing.
joe rogan
But look at what it's doing, like trying to figure out how to turn around.
I mean, it is on the side of a cliff.
And also, it knows not to do anything stupid and is not freaking out.
unidentified
It's amazing.
joe rogan
It's almost like their brains don't have the ability.
Look at that.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
I'm freaking out.
Like, the way those things can catch themselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the way it can walk on the side.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh, my God.
brian redban
And they're not scared of heights at all.
joe rogan
At all.
brian redban
Like, they don't have that in them.
joe rogan
That looks young, too.
That one looks young.
You know, I think that what you saw, like, that slip right there, that could definitely slip to its death.
It definitely could.
It must happen every now and then.
brian redban
Somebody attached a GoPro to an eagle recently, and they live-streamed it on Periscope.
And it was one of the most fascinating things, just seeing an eagle fly around and look.
It'll look to the right and see a little dot move, and so then it'll get closer.
It was a cool camera view, so I don't know if it's on YouTube now, but it's very interesting to watch.
joe rogan
That is crazy that you can do that now, right?
You can put a camera on an eagle and see things from his perspective.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Did you ever see that series of photos where a mountain lion tried to kill a goat and they both fell to their death?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
A mountain goat?
Was it a mountain goat or was it a...
brian redban
Sheep, maybe.
joe rogan
Or a mountain sheep.
I think it was a bighorn sheep.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like...
Yeah, it was like a mountain lion and a bighorn sheep, and they were both splattered on the fucking highway.
It's amazing, though.
It's an amazing series of images.
Like, I mean, I'm not a cruel person.
This is not me being cruel, but I think there's something beautiful about that.
And this is what I think is beautiful about that.
Go to, like, full screen with that thing.
Just go full screen to that one picture that you had up.
It's all right.
Look at that.
I mean, they're both gone.
unidentified
What's that?
joe rogan
They're both next to a cliff.
The only way this happens, right?
That's crazy.
You see the horn off to the left?
That's his other horn.
brian redban
I thought that was a hitchhiker's hand.
joe rogan
No, it blew off.
I mean, they probably fell a long way.
Go to the series now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's crazy about it is it represents how hard that life is.
Like, look, it's just blood pouring out of its head right there.
That's nuts.
That is nuts, man.
Where the horn blew off?
Holy shit.
God damn, dude.
Look at that mountain lion.
It's got a mouth full of fur, bro.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
brian redban
Never let go.
unidentified
That is so powerful.
joe rogan
That is so powerful.
It probably had it in its mouth as they went down.
They both went down together.
Dude, that is a goddamn powerful series of images.
Look at that.
Back up and see the height of that cliff.
Holy fuck's dick.
Ah!
Blang!
brian redban
I'm surprised he didn't land on his feet.
joe rogan
He probably held on that goat the entire way down, that fucking murderer.
jamie vernon
He said they fell from somewhere up there.
joe rogan
Jesus, how high that is.
Found on a closed road near Glacier National Park.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Dude, we gotta get those images for the studio.
We have to.
See if those are for sale.
jamie vernon
I see.
joe rogan
Find out if those are for sale.
brian redban
I have a poster printer.
You just send them to me, I'll print them out for you.
joe rogan
I think you're supposed to buy those.
There's something powerful about it.
That's not just a picture of a kid with a balloon.
There's something about that.
Somebody ought to be there to get that picture.
They should get some money.
brian redban
Printers are pretty amazing nowadays.
I got this poster printer for like...
$200, $300, and it prints pretty decent-sized posters.
And so you can just go, hey, I've always wanted a werewolf poster.
You just print it out, and it's like, go into the store, boom, you have it.
How big?
I'd probably say maybe 31 by 20 or something.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I've been seeing a lot of stuff that special effects guys like Rick Baker are doing with 3D printing now.
They're making all these masks and heads and shit with 3D printing.
Imagine if you could just make something in a computer and then go over to the 3D printer and print that bitch out.
brian redban
For some things, it's perfect.
I just lost a little battery cover to one of my remotes the other day, and I bet if I had a 3D printer, I could find the model of the battery cover and just print it out or make it.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
That's amazing, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much of that is going to be the future of objects?
You know, the future of things.
Like, how much less shit would you have to sell people if you could just sell them...
Oh, whoa.
brian redban
Yeah, I would print that out.
joe rogan
Is that Rick Baker's Popeye?
jamie vernon
Whoa.
MakerBot 3D printer, I believe.
brian redban
Oh my god, that's awesome.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's amazing.
jamie vernon
That's how it starts, and then he paints it.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's crazy.
Look at that one right above it.
brian redban
That's so cool.
joe rogan
Wow.
Go back to that other one that you just had, the whole series of them.
There's the Benicio do Toro werewolf.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Sort of.
Pretty close to it in the middle.
Goddamn, that's amazing.
brian redban
That'd be fun to paint.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
Once it's 3D printed out?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
These guys have so many tools at their disposal now.
But I wonder how much of that is going to be lost, like all the special effects makeup stuff, in the transition to CGI. Because it seems like it's just inevitable that CGI keeps getting better and better and better.
jamie vernon
There's still arguments for having a mix of this and using practical effects and whatnot.
I saw a clip of that American Werewolf actually moving in the back room while they were testing it out.
It looks obviously fake as shit, but you can't...
We know what to look for now in that fake stuff, and it really is catching us off guard all the time, just like when we saw that video.
Right away, we're like, fake, fake, fake.
joe rogan
Right.
brian redban
And even when it looks good, ten years later, you look back at something and you're like, God, that looks horrible.
joe rogan
Dude, I played King Kong, the original King Kong, for my kids a couple years back.
And they were laughing.
They were so scared at first.
And I was telling them, no, I'm not showing you anything scary.
I'm like, this is going to be really funny.
It's so silly.
unidentified
It's silly.
joe rogan
It doesn't seem real at all.
And they were like, no, that's the monster?
I go, yeah, that's the monster.
And, you know, because they're little kids.
They over laughed.
Like, ahhh!
Fell down, and they're being so silly.
It was really funny, man.
brian redban
I really wish that King Kong Island was better.
I hated that movie so much.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
How many times can you tell that stupid story?
brian redban
I know.
joe rogan
It's a racist story, anyway.
King Kong's surrounded by black chicks.
Never cares.
One white chick shows up.
He loses his fucking mind.
He's climbing buildings, bringing her to the top.
He breaks out of chains.
It's so stupid.
Look how big he is.
brian redban
Not that big.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty big.
They changed them a bunch of times in different versions.
brian redban
They have a graph that shows all the sizes from all the past movies of him and Godzilla.
joe rogan
Well, the Japanese movie was a big one.
They made him like 500 feet tall or something crazy.
So I think he was supposed to be like 50 feet tall in the first one.
Is that it right there?
King Kong Escapes, 1967. That's the one.
jamie vernon
18 foot, 12 foot tall in the 1933 one.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's it?
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
He looks so small compared to like...
joe rogan
Wow.
And then he was 12 feet tall in the son of Kong.
Oh, that's the little one.
Yeah.
brian redban
King Kong Lives.
That was my favorite.
I saw that in the theater.
joe rogan
See, he was pretty goddamn big.
He was a thousand feet tall.
Yeah, Godzilla's gonna fuck him up.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Period.
Look how much bigger he is.
brian redban
How does that even pop?
joe rogan
Not even close.
The new Godzilla will super fuck him up.
The new Godzilla's goddamn terrifying.
He seems to be thinking.
But you can't make a good one of these.
That was which years?
jamie vernon
That's the Skull Island one.
That's the newer one.
joe rogan
The newer one?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you can only make so many of these goddamn things, you know?
After a while, it's like, let me guess.
You know, the girl's gonna make it.
She's gonna be fine.
She's gonna have a few close calls.
We're going to get real excited.
Whoa, is she going to be okay?
Is the girl, that blonde lady going to be okay?
Meanwhile, he's stomping on black chicks left and right.
Just stomping his way through the village.
Stepping on black dudes.
Just that white girl.
He's just so enthralled by her.
It's the most racist movie of all time.
jamie vernon
It really is.
joe rogan
Like the first time King Kong sees a white chick, he loses his shit.
brian redban
I went down to a rabbit hole the other day watching that one gorilla that, you know, Robin Williams used to hang out with all the time.
What's that gorilla?
Coco.
Coco.
Have you ever watched any of this Coco?
I love that.
It's pretty amazing.
joe rogan
They're very smart, man.
Very smart.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, they're not like people smart, but they're like, you understand that they're not, this is not like a gopher or a groundhog or something.
Like, they're on a completely different level than most other mammals besides us.
brian redban
Coco recently got some new kittens, and it's amazing watching him play with the kittens.
joe rogan
I think it's a girl, right?
brian redban
Yeah, her.
Sorry.
joe rogan
You misgendered Coco, bro.
So rude.
brian redban
That's just one of those animals you just think it's a guy.
It's like how I look at dogs.
I consider them guys and cats girls for some reason.
joe rogan
Yeah, because she could smash your fucking head in anytime she wants to.
You know how strong that thing must be?
You know, yet she's so gentle.
They're vegetarians, too.
They're sweeties.
Gorillas are big sweeties for the most part.
What's really kind of nuts, man, is chimpanzees.
How smart they are.
She's twerking.
brian redban
Oh, she's twerking.
Let's see that.
joe rogan
Get out of there.
brian redban
Hey, lady.
unidentified
Hey, lady.
brian redban
Can I get on that?
joe rogan
Strong twerks, by the way.
brian redban
God, they love it.
joe rogan
She has been working on her hoe skills.
She's not just, it's not like her first time doing that.
She's developed those fast twitch butt muscles, you know, where you can really twerk.
Girls who twerk and you go, whoa, you really do know how to do this.
You know, you ever seen like a little kid try to do a yo-yo, they don't quite get it?
The yo-yo doesn't come back all the way like shit.
You try to teach them, now you gotta like go down and then go up and they never get it.
That's the same thing with like a amateur twerker.
A girl doesn't really know how to twerk.
They don't have that kind of pop and bounce that that girl did.
That girl has done a lot of things she probably regrets.
She's probably been hammered more than once doing that.
She's probably gone butt to butt with other girls.
brian redban
I love butt to butt.
joe rogan
Yeah, butt to butt.
Yeah, it's been a lot of debauchery.
brian redban
I've become such an ass man in the last couple of years.
I've never was an ass guy.
I feel way better.
I can't even imagine I was a tit guy for so long.
Like, asses have really...
joe rogan
Well, you can enjoy the whole woman, by the way.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like the male feminist approach.
Asshole.
Maybe just treat him as a whole woman.
Not think of it as like a tit guy or an ass guy.
How many girls are like, I'm not a dick girl.
You know, I like their mouth.
I like to eat my box and shut their mouth.
Not really into dicks.
brian redban
I saw that.
I looked up.
I had to find the Blac Chyna naked photos.
joe rogan
Boobs are back.
brian redban
Boobs are not back.
joe rogan
They're back.
brian redban
New York Post, man.
joe rogan
Amazing.
Boobs are back.
jamie vernon
Like they went away?
joe rogan
When the fuck did boobs go away?
See, this is just like, people run out of shit to talk about.
unidentified
That's stupid.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
It's like half the things that we discuss in this podcast.
Like, what?
What are they doing?
We're just shooting the shit, folks.
They're printing it.
brian redban
Congratulations on that New York Times retraction that you pretty much caused.
That was pretty beautiful watching that go down.
joe rogan
Well, it's not...
I mean, it was a guy who wrote it and it was printed in the New York Times.
Right.
I mean, it was in the New York Times, but it's an individual's choice and maybe an editor's choice to embellish The reality of what happened.
It was about the boxing match.
They said that his face was covered in blood, completely covered in blood, and that he was rescued before he fell through the ropes.
Neither one of those things are true.
This is not true.
His face wasn't bloody at all.
I mean, he had a little bit of a swelling under his left eye.
He was definitely getting punched in the face and I definitely agree with the stoppage of the fight.
He was exhausted and he was falling all over the place.
But it was more that Floyd was just teeing off on him and he wasn't firing back.
There was no blood.
And he wasn't going to fall through the ropes.
He might have went down.
He might have went down at one point in the fight.
I mean, if Floyd kept punching him, that might be actually a smart move for him.
Catch 10 seconds, you know?
Do a standing eight count.
Go down to a knee, rather.
Get up at the count of eight.
You know, they brush your gloves off, you get a second or two there, then you go back in.
Maybe that would have been enough for him to get through the round, you know?
Because he was, for sure, having a real hard time recovering.
But what the New York Times wrote was just not true.
Like, what it was, was just as juicy.
What it was is a 40-year-old boxer comes out of retirement and schools the, you know, number one most popular MMA fighter in the world in a boxing match, proving what a lot of experts already knew, that a specialist, someone who's the greatest specialist of all time when it comes to boxing, I mean, it's pretty arguable.
Floyd's in like the, there's like two or three people that you could argue are like the greatest of all time.
In my opinion, Floyd is the number one.
But he beat Conor McGregor in a way that you would expect a real specialist to beat someone who's just pretty good at it.
He was masterful.
Fucking awesome to watch.
And what Conor said afterwards is hilarious too.
I turned him into a Mexican.
He fought like a Mexican.
Because that's what people love about Mexican fighters.
Mexican fighters are known for coming straight at you.
Mexican fighters aren't dancers.
They're not dancing around and doing the Ali shuffle.
They're like Julio Cesar Chavez.
They're moving forward.
They're like Marco Antonio Barrera.
They're moving forward.
Mexican boxers are some of the proudest, most rugged warriors ever.
That's how Floyd fought.
He really did fight like a super technical, aggressive, brawling style.
He tired Conor out and beat his ass.
It's beautiful.
Man, beautiful for boxing, beautiful for the overall art.
Of fighting.
Because we need to see these things.
I think this thing that we're all participating in, fans of MMA, practitioners of MMA, this thing that we're all participating in is trying to figure out what style is the very best style for fighting period.
And then we found along the way that it varies.
It varies on the individual.
Styles make fights and then sometimes one guy can beat another guy, but that guy can beat someone who can beat him and it gets real weird.
MMA math is one of the squirreliest fucking predictors of who's gonna win a fight ever.
But we're finding out what's fucking real.
When you've got all the belief in yourself and the world, when you've got knockout power, when you really believe you can beat the greatest boxer of all time, what happens?
Oh, you get fucked up.
Okay, that's good.
It's good to learn.
It's good to learn.
It's good to learn that even though he lands a few shots, makes it a real interesting contest, Good to learn that the best specialist of all time is that for a reason.
This isn't bullshit.
This is Floyd Mayweather.
He's 49-0, now he's 50-0.
I mean, that's good for combat sport.
It's good for everybody.
That's what's so stupid about this whole boxing versus MMA feud.
It's so dumb.
It gets everybody excited about fights.
And this inter-competition thing between an MMA fighter coming over to boxing, that's even more fun.
Because then it gets everything excited on both sides.
And I think it's gotten a lot of people super excited about Canelo Alvarez and Triple G, which is next weekend.
People are super pumped up about that fight, particularly because we're just past this Conor-Floyd Mayweather fight.
Floyd Mayweather has his way with Conor, just puts on a display.
And now we're going to get to see, instead of the master versus a guy who really wasn't on his level, now we're going to get to see two guys in their prime at the top of the food chain.
Two of the top three, top four pound-for-pound fighters in the world, and they're going to go at it.
So it's good for everybody.
They just don't...
These guys are so old school.
They understand social media in a sense.
They know they can use it to promote fights.
They don't know that it's changed the whole community.
And that instead of having some stupid rivalry with this other sport, MMA, instead of having that, just accept each other.
Accept each other and talk highly of the best examples in both sports.
And everybody will be fine.
I mean, that's what you're seeing with this Conor McGregor-Floyd Mayweather fight.
That's what you're going to see with the Triple G-Cadell-Alvarez fight.
You don't have to be one or the other.
And the boxing people don't have to not like MMA.
I love boxing.
And I work in MMA.
I love boxing.
I watch all the big fights.
I'm always going to.
It's fascinating.
It's awesome.
It's nice to know who the real specialists are.
When it comes to that, I love kickboxing.
Big fan of that, too.
I like to know.
I love jujitsu.
I want to know.
I want to know how good are the best guys.
What would happen if the best guy in the UFC fought the best guy in jujitsu in a straight-up jujitsu match?
I want to see.
Those things are interesting.
brian redban
I wanted to see a boxer go to the UFC and see how...
unidentified
That's going to happen.
joe rogan
That's going to happen eventually.
You know, I mean, we had James Toney, of course, but James is way past his prime, and it didn't even look like he trained for that fight.
I think James just took a payday, if I had to guess.
You know and Randy just hit him with a low ankle pick took him down.
I think maybe hit a low single I forget what it was, but he went way low But either way, there's not a chance in hell that James Tony was ever gonna stop Randy Couture from taking him down It's just not gonna happen.
He would have to catch him Absolutely perfect coming in for the very first punch and if he didn't Randy was gonna just molest him He's gonna have his way with him.
brian redban
Are you excited about GSP?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I'm interested to see what happens um Quite honestly, I wanted to see him at 170. I think him versus Woodley is the fight.
Woodley's had two fights in a row where people were booing him.
Three, really, because he had two fights with Wonderboy that were like chess matches and then one fight with Damian Maia.
Which is also, like, just not the most exciting fight.
But I think him versus GSP would be a very exciting fight.
I think that's the real fight.
Because that's GSP's real weight class, too.
You know?
I'm interested in that.
But I'm interested in the Bisping fight, too.
Because I think it's a tough fight.
It's a tough fight for GSP. Bisping is a handful.
He's a big fella, too.
Fought at 205 in the Ultimate Fighter.
Fights in 185 in the UFC. He's way bigger than George.
And he's gotten fucking tough, man.
He's real good.
Legitimately real good.
And George has been out for a long time.
brian redban
Yeah, what's he been doing?
joe rogan
Well, he's been training.
He's definitely stayed in shape.
He did a lot of gymnastics, did a lot of exercise.
You know, he made a shit ton of money when he was fighting.
You know, he had contracts with Nike and he had some...
He had, uh...
Was it Nike or was it, um...
I think he had something.
I know he had something with Gatorade, but I want to say George had something.
Maybe it's Under Armour.
I think he's got something with Under Armour.
Yeah, so he's had a bunch of big endorsements.
He's a giant hero in Canada.
I mean, just giant, right?
So I think for, you know, a while he's just recovering.
You know, all those wars, all those years of getting in brawls, and then finally he got to a point where his body started feeling real good again.
He's like, fuck it.
Let's get back in there.
brian redban
I wonder if the aliens are still around.
unidentified
The L.E.N., they come to me at the red light.
brian redban
I refuse to drink Gatorade anymore.
I used to drink a Gatorade every single day for the last 20 years, and then the other day, busted one open, drank it, and something that felt like a raw egg went into my mouth, and I spit it back in, and it was just this blob.
joe rogan
I shot a load of Gatorade.
jamie vernon
I saw you post this video, and I did some Googling on it.
It's apparently a thing, the Gatorade globs.
brian redban
Yeah, it's actually, I'm not the only one.
joe rogan
So it's like kombucha.
brian redban
See, that was in my mouth.
joe rogan
Top 119 complaints and reviews about Gatorade.
jamie vernon
From Consumer Affairs.
joe rogan
So you got one of these, Brian?
brian redban
Yeah, in my mouth.
And I saved it up until about a week ago because I was going to just call them.
But then I was like, who cares about this blob?
joe rogan
What are they saying it is?
Whoa, it's a load.
Someone shot a load in there.
brian redban
It was the grossest thing ever, and seriously, I have flashbacks, and I will never, ever drink a Gatorade for the rest of my life.
And look at this crap.
joe rogan
Wow, that's just mold, though.
That's mold.
jamie vernon
It's like moldy sugar or something.
joe rogan
Right, but who knows how long that's been sitting there.
brian redban
That's one thing whenever you go to a gas station or stuff always look at the bottom of your container like if you're buying like a plastic bottle of like apple juice or something because I've noticed ever since then I'm so paranoid about anything and I tell you half the times I'm looking at the bottom like that does not look right like this looks like it's been mold or something things that are go traveling around like McDonald's or the the dude who was worried about Wendy's with the hot trucks there are things that are travel around in hot trucks you know like for real
joe rogan
and I wonder what temperature Gatorade has to get to before shit starts growing in it.
brian redban
And that's it.
I bought my Gatorade from Amazon.
joe rogan
Oh, probably sitting in some hot warehouse somewhere, just cooking.
When it's sealed, I wonder what does that mean, when they seal it?
Obviously air is not getting to it right now, but there's some air in there.
What happens to that air?
How does that air affect?
Is shit growing in that air or no?
brian redban
I think there's chemicals in there to make sure that nothing happens.
joe rogan
They found some 6,000-year-old bottle of wine recently.
Did you see that?
Yeah, I think actually what they found was a 6,000-year-old vessel that contained residue of wine.
I don't think they found like 6,000-year-old bottle that you could just get fucked up on.
Imagine?
Traces of 6,000-year-old wine discovered in Sicilian cave.
That's my people.
They're right out there.
They're making a fucking nice sauce.
They got a nice wine.
unidentified
This guy's been growing wine for 16,000 fucking years.
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
You got to get this wine in you.
Get this wine in you.
Where's the gravy?
16,000 years.
His fucking family's been over here.
They used to have thumbs.
They used to pick the grape with their feet.
That's how long ago they did this.
These motherfuckers.
Wow, look at those pots that they found.
That is crazy.
Those are 6,000 year old pots.
They used to hold wine.
unidentified
Cool.
jamie vernon
What did they just find in Canada that's older than Gobekli Tepe or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, some kid found a civil...
Don't change that yet, though.
I want to look at this for a second.
That just trips me out that those big vessels are 6,000 years old.
That is so weird, man.
That is so fucking long ago.
To try to pretend what life was like 2,000 years before Christ.
That's essentially what you're looking at there.
Christ.
Yeah, 4,000 years before Christ.
So 6,000 years ago.
No, Christ was zero, right?
So it's 2017. So it's 2,000 years past Christ.
They say current era, BCE, but you're not fooling everybody.
We know what it is.
unidentified
It's before Jesus, you fuck.
joe rogan
Why would you have it?
Oh, just a coincidence?
That before current era just happens to land exactly on when Jesus came back?
Shut up.
Assholes with their BCE. Before current era.
What does that even mean?
Why can't we just start it?
Can we go back and agree what zero is and rewrite history?
I mean, we decided that this was, you know, the BC, 2500 BC, they made the pyramids.
Like, what the fuck does that even mean?
You're going backwards?
So, 6000 BC is actually earlier than 2500 BC? You guys are retarded.
What a stupid way of measuring shit.
How about you go all the way back, you make that zero, and you start from scratch?
Because, like, the Earth doesn't know what Year we're in the earth has no idea what year we're deciding it in to make some arbitrary number and then have everything before that Start with a low number and build high like you have a like a flat line between Reality and some new dimension or like water and air like you have a hot number When was the software created zero ones a Christian monk Yeah,
jamie vernon
I looked up the other day where alphabetical order came from and who got to decide why it was that and what made A before B or whatever the fuck.
And it was some scholars back that, you know, when people couldn't write, they were the only ones that could write and read.
So they made it up.
joe rogan
You know what the craziest trip is, man?
When people were writing in ancient Hebrew, they wrote with letters that also meant numbers.
Like, a word also had a numerical value.
Like, there was no numbers.
They didn't have, like, numbers.
They had A, and A is also one.
B, B is also two.
jamie vernon
I just thought of that time period, and no one also knew how to read.
So if you got a letter or whatever, let's say, if you got one.
joe rogan
Is that true, though?
No one knew how to read?
jamie vernon
I don't know one, but I would say most people probably didn't.
You might have to give it to someone to read for you.
You'd have to trust their translation.
That's all that's going on.
joe rogan
You're racist.
They were making pyramids.
They could all read.
Amazing.
Yeah, you might be right, right?
That was the whole Martin Luther thing, right?
Lutherism?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had figured out how to make the Bible and translate it into, I think it was German, into a phonetic language that people could understand.
Because before, they had to trust the priests or learn Latin, I guess.
brian redban
I'm Lutheran, Joe.
joe rogan
Are you really?
Those are the super people.
They figured it out, man.
Who are the ones that...
Oh, Pentecostals.
Those are my favorite because they fuck with snakes and shit.
Those are my favorite.
I like those.
That's hot weather for Southern people, man.
That's what that shit is.
That's all people that live in a place where your brain is getting boiled by the heat and you just decide to start dancing with snakes and, you know, fucking talking in tongues.
They're sweating.
They're always sweating.
Those Pentecostal guys, they're always yelling and screaming.
Yeah, man.
jamie vernon
They have big conventions or something where they meet every year, too.
joe rogan
Pentecostals do?
They meet and swap snakes.
I'll let you borrow my snake.
It almost got me last week.
benjamin jaffe
Every now and then, one of them gets got by a snake.
joe rogan
That's important too, man.
All those people in their group have to go, oh, okay.
jamie vernon
Big ol' party.
joe rogan
Look at that.
brian redban
Gaylord.
joe rogan
Gaylord Opryland Resort.
Shut your mouth.
How much butt-fucking is going on?
Just butt-fucking in that room.
brian redban
So much butt-fucking.
joe rogan
Go to that overhead view.
How much pray the gay away is happening in that room?
At least 30%, right?
30% of those people are just trying to fight off the gay.
Hard.
jamie vernon
Nashville.
joe rogan
There was a lawsuit that I was just reading about where some sort of Christian cult, they kidnapped this guy and beat the shit out of him because he was gay.
They were trying to beat the gay away.
brian redban
This is crazy.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
There's so much of that going on.
So much of that pray the gay away.
What is this?
Mother accused of having son beat the gay away could face hate crime charges.
Yeah.
Look at her.
Is that the woman?
Oh my god.
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
Is she gonna talk about?
We should probably hear her talk.
Do you think we'll get yanked?
unidentified
I don't know.
jamie vernon
That's the news.
It's a news report.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's hear what she has to say about beating the shit out of her son.
Your 15-year-old is gay?
unidentified
In some way that he...
Yes.
I think that he was a molester.
But like I said, I reported the YBPD and nothing was done. - And does it bother you if he does come out of BK, does that bother you? - It bothered me because he's a young age, He's not all there.
He do not know right from wrong.
So, yes it do.
brian redban
Yes it do.
That's weird.
joe rogan
Whoa.
brian redban
Is that her mug shot right below?
The one that looks like Cat Williams?
joe rogan
It's like James Brown.
brian redban
Oh, James Brown.
unidentified
Get up!
joe rogan
What is that?
Oh, it's from Whiteville.
She lives in Whiteville.
brian redban
This is simulation theory shit, man.
joe rogan
Whiteville, North Carolina.
She's currently being charged with a misdemeanor child abuse.
That's all you get for beating the gay away.
You get misdemeanor child abuse.
He's 15. Man.
unidentified
Somebody's been molesting him is what she said.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
God damn it, man.
jamie vernon
So check this out.
joe rogan
That's hardcore.
jamie vernon
That's even crazier right now.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Hurricane Irma holds about twice the destructive energy of all bombs used in the Second World War.
jamie vernon
Seven trillion watts of power in it right now.
joe rogan
So why can't we get like some kind of a windmill up there and collect it?
brian redban
You would have to have a big one and then it would become the biggest weapon ever.
joe rogan
Well, why don't we design that instead of the Galaxy Note 8 that no one wants to buy?
brian redban
I got it.
joe rogan
How about you buy a giant windmill thing and put it up there and make all the power, please?
jamie vernon
I have some friends that are in Florida right now, and the unforeseen problem that being out here and not knowing why and what people are doing there.
I also have an uncle in Orlando who's telling me he's not leaving right now.
Because the roads are gridlocked, and the highway, there's nowhere to go.
My friends who left Tampa yesterday got up at like 9 in the morning, packed all their shit up, and were like, all right, let's go.
Where are we going to go?
They were like, let's take side roads, because it's probably going to be busy everywhere.
So they did, for a while, three, four hours of side roads, and then eventually you're going to run out of gas.
You've got to go get gas.
First place they stopped, no gas.
They're all out.
joe rogan
Oh no.
jamie vernon
So, they continue on to the next one, waiting a gigantic line to fill up, but now it's again like, hopefully we can live off of this tank of gas for the next fucking, until we get where we're going.
And everybody has to leave right now because the whole state could be potentially under 10 feet of water in a couple days.
unidentified
The whole state.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole state.
jamie vernon
10 foot storm surge is coming in.
joe rogan
The whole state.
jamie vernon
I mean, it won't make it all the way to the middle probably, but a fucking gigantic, we don't know, obviously too.
brian redban
The only positive, if there's any positive thing compared to the last hurricane, is that it's not going to stall over Florida.
It's going to keep on going and losing energy the higher it gets.
But Orlando should be, might get really fucked.
You know, that's Disney World.
Disney World might be gone this weekend.
joe rogan
Right, it might go away.
brian redban
Yeah, they just rebuild it all.
Or all this new stuff, too.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Oh yeah, there's like that 90% of this island, Barbuda, is gone, uninhabitable.
They don't even know some of this shit too, because they can't see it.
It was all happening last night.
They can't get over to find out what's going, to get reports of it even.
joe rogan
So they don't know if the people are dead, they don't know shit, right?
brian redban
I mean, those islands are so small.
I mean, what, is this the size of like Texas or Ohio or something like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's the size of Ohio, the storm is.
jamie vernon
400 miles across.
unidentified
That's scary.
joe rogan
How wide is Florida?
Florida's not 400 miles across, right?
jamie vernon
I don't know exactly, but it's probably, I would go 300, 250. It's pretty girthy.
joe rogan
So it's going to be like a giant eraser that just rolls up Florida.
jamie vernon
And they're still not sure it could turn, you know?
Things can always turn.
It could go back, it could turn left and go to Texas.
joe rogan
You know who are the grossest people that have ever lived?
brian redban
Speaking of Florida.
joe rogan
The people that go, they miss, they stay, and they survive, and the storm miraculously turns, and they're like, I fucking knew it.
No, you didn't, stupid.
You didn't know it.
You're no better than the people that got killed by it.
You got lucky.
brian redban
You know, that's a lot of people in Houston.
That's how they feel.
They make it a party.
They have hurricane parties.
And this one really caught them off guard.
joe rogan
How did that catch them off guard?
They saw it coming from days away.
brian redban
Well, I think they, in their heads, think, oh, no, we're fine.
We've been fine for years.
They're drunk.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
They're fucking partying.
They're listening to Kid Rock.
They're on top of the room.
They're making out.
They're like, we don't care.
We'll stay up here.
We got a boat.
We're going to be fine.
We'll catch fish.
brian redban
There was an episode I was on.
I don't know if it was the last time I was on or whatever, but we were talking about floods in Houston, and I showed you that concrete, or not concrete, pavement that sucks up water.
I wonder if that would have been any help if they had implemented that all over the place.
joe rogan
Maybe.
But I think the amount of water they were dealing with is just so unprecedented.
They showed the difference between Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Harvey, like the sheer amount of volume of water.
It's insane.
Like, this was such a big, big hurricane.
That's just...
I wish there was a definitive answer as to if all this is a direct result of human behavior, industry, car, exhaust.
I wish there was a definitive result where you could see it.
Like, yeah, here's the number that you can show.
What are you showing me here?
brian redban
That concrete.
joe rogan
Oh, the water drinking concrete?
So how does that do that?
jamie vernon
I have no idea.
brian redban
It's magic.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It could absorb runoff from fast floods.
If you're watching it, folks, the people that are just listening, it doesn't even seem real.
It's like they have this giant water truck, and it's fucking pouring water all over the concrete, and it's just dissipating almost instantaneously into the concrete.
It's super weird.
brian redban
I wonder if it has, like, a basement, and what it does is it goes through, like, kind of like a concrete filter, and it goes underneath, so the actual water is just, like, underneath in the basement.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, I don't know what the fuck it does.
It doesn't even seem real.
It seems like a scene in a Terminator movie.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, either way, like, what they dealt with in Houston is so much water.
I just doubt that, I mean, maybe that would have helped a little.
But I think that they're dealing with just some insane amount of water.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that it shows what it is, Jamie?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like some sort of filtration system?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
I guess so.
joe rogan
So it allows the water to go through it.
brian redban
And it can't get back out.
joe rogan
It's like porous.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
It still seems like it was probably too much water.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That Harvey was a monster hurricane.
The crazy thing is how much bigger Irma is.
Like, I think we're numb to it.
I think we look at it and it doesn't make sense to us, you know?
jamie vernon
Got 185 mile sustained winds for over a day.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no!
brian redban
Epcot Center is just going to start rolling like a Katamari.
No!
joe rogan
But here's the thing, right?
Is this the strongest they can get?
No.
They can get stronger than this.
jamie vernon
It could be, yeah.
It's just the categories they tracked.
This was the highest they'd gone, and now this one is the new bar to beat, basically.
brian redban
A Delta airline accidentally flew through it yesterday by mistake, and it got out at the last minute.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
I forgot.
I read that this morning when I woke up.
joe rogan
It got out?
brian redban
Yeah, I guess it accidentally flew into it, and somehow it got out of the hurricane.
joe rogan
Okay, so the pilot piloted his way out of the hurricane.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, I thought you meant it got out.
The pilot did this.
brian redban
Oh, oh, oh.
joe rogan
Delta pilot flew through Irma.
One of the most powerful hurricanes recorded and all 173 passengers are safe.
Why would they do that?
brian redban
I don't know.
jamie vernon
The last one to fly to Puerto Rico.
joe rogan
Oh, they had to?
They had to fly through it?
Did they fucking judge it wrong?
brian redban
Yeah.
They went through 185,000 mile per hour winds.
Can you imagine that turbulence?
joe rogan
Well, it's not that fast.
It's 187 miles an hour, right?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Fuck, that thing is giant, man.
When you see it on the ground, or, you know, in one of those overhead maps, and you realize how big it is, look how big that is.
That's so crazy!
So they flew through part of it?
jamie vernon
I guess, yeah.
joe rogan
Does it show?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to figure it out.
brian redban
Oh, it's like, yeah, it's going right now.
joe rogan
25 mile an hour winds gusting to 40. See, look at it.
jamie vernon
It's headed towards it, yeah, yeah.
They might have had to turn around or...
unidentified
Whoa...
joe rogan
Huh.
So they were following it in real time?
jamie vernon
Yeah, people were following on a flight track as well as what was going on.
joe rogan
So they got stuck in the actual hurricane.
They flew through the hurricane.
Oh my god.
That is insane.
jamie vernon
Oh wait, they landed?
Hold on.
52 minutes on the ground in San Juan.
They landed and turned around.
joe rogan
Oh, they tried to make it back to America?
jamie vernon
This is the airport.
It has to climb out of SJU, and they're doing so between the outer band of Irma and the core of the storm.
They went in between the bands.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
jamie vernon
That's insane.
That pilot needs to be hugged by everybody.
joe rogan
So he went in between the bands, and in doing...
Wow, that's the most incredible thing about weather satellites.
They could literally navigate this guy through those bands and tell him where the storm is ahead.
brian redban
Yeah, they have portable Dopplers here now in Los Angeles, where it's so accurate now that you can just see your street level, like if there's a cloud above you.
joe rogan
Look at this.
While it looks terrifying, Delta maintains that their pilots had everything under control.
Our meteorology team is the best in the business.
Eric Snell, Vice President for Delta Operations and Customer Center, told the Washington Post, DL-302 departed San Juan with 173 passengers on board, according to Delta.
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
Good PR for them.
brian redban
Yeah, of course, being on an airplane probably was the worst flight you'll ever have in your life.
joe rogan
They took a hard look at the weather data and the track of the storm and worked with the flight crew and dispatcher to agree it was safe to operate the flight.
jamie vernon
What would you do if you're about to get on that plane and they're telling you what they're gonna do?
unidentified
I would shit all over myself.
brian redban
I'd probably say I'll stay at the airport and risk it.
joe rogan
Oh, I'd be like, fuck this, man.
I'm going to sleep.
I'm going to take my backpack.
I'm sleeping on the ground.
I assume that you guys turned this thing into some sort of a hurricane shelter.
jamie vernon
Have you been to the airport in Puerto Rico?
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
I haven't been to the San Juan one, but I was at one on the other side of the island.
joe rogan
Just made of the cardboard?
jamie vernon
You do not want to do that.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
You don't want to do that.
joe rogan
Get in the plane.
brian redban
You're right.
joe rogan
I'd probably get in the plane.
brian redban
It's like a run-down Burbank airport.
joe rogan
But they got away with it.
Puerto Rico didn't get totally hit.
They only got like a little piece of it.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing about these kind of storms.
So you could just get unlucky and it just runs right over your spot.
Or you can be right next to that and go, Lord was looking out for us.
Like, okay, you sure?
Are you sure you just didn't get lucky?
Like we're dealing with impossible forces.
A hurricane the size of Ohio is an impossible force.
I don't think we really understand what the fuck that means.
I think that's one of those things where someone says, a trillion billion dollars.
Like, yeah, that's a lot.
But you don't really think about it.
You know, you don't really, really understand what that means.
Because it's too much.
The size of the universe is too much.
The power that that thing has, it's just too much.
It doesn't make sense.
You'd have to see it.
You'd have to be there.
brian redban
Do you see the video?
I don't know if it's real either, but the video of...
I don't know if it was today's hurricane.
This guy's trying to hold his truck, like he had a pickup truck, trying to hold it so it doesn't tip over.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
brian redban
And the winds were so strong, he just gets squished by it.
I mean, it's hard to see because it was raining so hard.
joe rogan
The guy's got to be crazy.
Why would he do that?
A truck is about to flip, and you think you're going to stop it with your hands?
Do you watch too many movies, motherfucker?
They can pick up a truck.
Can you pick up a truck?
No.
Then get the fuck out of there.
jamie vernon
I'm going to put this on YouTube, but we can watch it.
joe rogan
What is it?
Oh, this is the guy?
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, dude, that's a wrap.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's crazy.
That guy's crazy.
Look at that thing fucking in the breeze.
He should have got out of there, man.
brian redban
Oh, he just sandwiched.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got crushed.
He didn't handle it well.
You can't get out from under that.
That's too much weight.
You're dead.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Fuck!
brian redban
It's those fast ones that get me.
Like, that guy probably just was like, oh, my truck's about to...
Boom, you're dead.
joe rogan
Well, the thing about these kind of hurricanes are, how many of them can you get in a row?
jamie vernon
Because if they're saying there's two more in a row behind Irma, In 2005, I think it was.
Florida got hit like four times in a row in like two weeks, three weeks, four weeks.
brian redban
Yeah, but these are like fives.
Those were like twos and threes.
These are fives.
And you know Jose is going right for Washington, D.C. Hurricane Jose.
Jose is going to be the big one.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
brian redban
I don't know.
Probably wouldn't even hit the United States.
joe rogan
I'm worried about them all, man.
I'm worried about earthquakes.
I'm worried about asteroids.
I'm worried about super volcanoes.
We're dealing with just a small amount of history.
That's what's going on.
I mean, especially when it comes to weather.
Our history of the weather is like, what, a couple hundred years old?
Like, what's our recorded history of the weather?
If you had a guess.
unidentified
What's our recorded history of the weather?
joe rogan
1878. That sounds good.
I'm saying something like that.
I'm saying somewhere around like 200 years they started figuring it out.
Does that make sense?
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
1816?
We were writing stuff down around Columbus times.
joe rogan
Were they?
jamie vernon
I said 300 years.
joe rogan
1816. I wonder when they can measure, though.
Like, when they knew- they knew when they were cold.
Like, fuck, it's cold out.
I wonder when they knew what that meant, though.
Like, if there was a number.
jamie vernon
I guess we needed tools also to track.
After I'm now seeing the year, it makes way more sense what I just found.
joe rogan
The invention of the thermometer.
When was that?
jamie vernon
Right.
Well, I'll look that up too.
joe rogan
I'm going to guess.
1755. That's a good one.
unidentified
I would say 1812. 1812. You're probably right.
joe rogan
It's probably more recent than we think.
jamie vernon
Application of Mercury on the Fahrenheit scale, 1724. But the first recorded temperature, it says here, was 1880. Oh, 1878. 1878, it was two years off.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
jamie vernon
You probably had to have something touch it back then, touch the mercury.
joe rogan
Yeah, and how they figured out what, I mean look, we can't even agree on the metric system versus inches.
What's interesting there then, if that was the first time they could ever actually like calculate the degrees, did they have measurement for degrees before that?
Did they have like temperature measurements before that?
Like what did they use?
Like when they were talking about like how hot is a fire?
Like what did they use?
They have no idea?
brian redban
They touched it.
No, that's super hot.
joe rogan
Oh, that ice is cold.
Like, did they have any idea?
Like, did they even describe it in measurement?
jamie vernon
The clinical thermometer wasn't invented until 18...
joe rogan
1866. It was probably some dude with a regular thermometer just stuck it up his ass.
Somebody caught him, and he was like, oh, bro, I'm just making sure that this thing works on people.
unidentified
It took five minutes instead of 20. Because it was up his ass.
joe rogan
Heated it up.
That's...
jamie vernon
In 1999 is when the forehead thermometer came out, and that takes two seconds.
joe rogan
1999?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
brian redban
I like the...
jamie vernon
The first temporal artery thermometer.
brian redban
1999. That's the one you put on your forehead, right?
joe rogan
That's nuts.
That just happened.
The crazy thing is the idea that before the thermometer, they didn't really have a number when they were talking about things being cold or hot.
Like, did they?
When did they invent units of measurement for temperature?
When was that invented?
Because obviously there's more than one, right?
There's Celsius and there's Fahrenheit.
Celsius is the one that's based on the metric system that's used by almost everybody except for us.
We're fucking assholes.
You know, they'll say something like, oh, it's 35 degrees out.
And you're like, what are you talking about?
That's not hot.
And then you're like, oh, your Celsius is.
What is that, like 80?
35 degrees is hot as fuck, right?
brian redban
That'd be cool if we all had the same currency also.
But it just costs more in different places.
Why don't we just make everything easier on everything?
joe rogan
Because everybody's corrupt and if we were all together someone would fuck us up And we would lose all the money.
Someone would siphon all the money up.
They would weasel their way through the whole batch of it.
If we have a bunch of different factions and a bunch of different languages, everybody sort of keeps peace.
And no, like, super wizard, you know...
Despicable Me character comes along and hijacks the entire system.
The earliest recorded system of weights and measurements, what does it say about temperature?
jamie vernon
I don't know, but I mean temperature would take a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, but history of measurement is not what I'm asking because I know that they've had scales for a long time, but like what about when was a unit of measurement for temperature invented?
jamie vernon
Length, typographical, mass, time.
joe rogan
Doesn't say temperature?
Well, somebody had to, like, not have it, and then they had it.
It must be a date, right?
brian redban
And it probably would have started, like, this is the temperature of a dead raven or something like that, and this is a snake.
joe rogan
1659. Wow.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
So what did they use to measure it?
What the fuck did they use to measure it if they didn't have thermometers?
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
I mean, imagine not having a thermometer and trying to measure the heat.
brian redban
This sounds like your inner dialogue of you at night at 3 in the morning.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
It is, man.
I got fucking problems, dude.
Especially if I smoke a joint.
It's crazy how normal life can seem, and then you smoke a joint, and you're like, oh no, it's not normal at all!
It's so crazy!
brian redban
100%.
joe rogan
Dude, life seems so normal.
And so, like, you know, hey, what's up, neighbor?
How's everybody doing?
And then you smoke a joint and just watch a little bit of news about Irma.
About any of these things.
Irma freaked me out the other night, man.
I made one of them 2 o'clock in the morning Instagram posts.
I was just going online and looking at storm footage.
I was like, what if these just keep hitting?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Over and over and over and over and over.
brian redban
Yeah.
I watched a documentary about how our coral and our ocean is dying recently and it freaked me the fuck out.
It's like all based on like two degrees of temperature that it's doing.
Like the oceans are two degrees hotter.
And I was like, wait, there's like eight billion people.
Couldn't we just all throw ice into the ocean at the same time?
joe rogan
I think they thought that through.
I said that last night as a joke to somebody.
You know what we could do, though, for real, is apparently wearing sunscreen in the water is fucking terrible for coral.
And people don't give a shit.
brian redban
Oh, it's like an oil.
Never thought about that, right?
joe rogan
It's chemical.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, sunscreen, whatever that stuff is...
It's weird, man.
brian redban
It's like the face beads scrubs that you can't destroy.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, those things that get stuck in your drain.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that stuff that they use for sunscreen, how good is that for your skin to spray that chemical on there?
brian redban
I never use sunscreen.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
I have to use it because of my vitiligo because of the different colors in my hand like if otherwise it's like it's like if you're a white guy vitiligo is not nearly as obvious as if you're a black guy right black people have it it's like it's crazy contrast and if I don't do it also like I wear this I don't have pigment in those areas so if I don't have pigment like where my fingers are like and that shit gets cancer or something like that like you don't have anything that's blocking skin cancer so wear like backwards dice gloves No!
How about two Michael Jackson gloves?
The conclusion from the media is sunscreen is killing the world's coral.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
And that's laughable.
jamie vernon
What?
It says right here that 10% of the global reefs are at least only 10%, and many of them are remote and without tourists that even get near them.
And that study was done with artificial seawater.
joe rogan
So that study's bullshit?
jamie vernon
Maybe.
And this was also unmatchable, so...
joe rogan
You know what, man?
I read stuff like that, and Eddie Bravo, Alice Jones comes out at me, and I'm like, who the fuck is paying for that article to get rid of?
brian redban
Johnson, Johnson.
joe rogan
It's the goddamn fucking sunscreen industry, bro.
You know how much money's in sunscreen, bro?
Every fucking mom who loves their kids puts sunscreen on their baby, bro.
That's how people start thinking.
Maybe they're right.
It's hard to know who's fucking telling the truth.
There's too much fake news.
jamie vernon
That's not fake.
brian redban
That guy's crazy.
joe rogan
Parents don't know why Sun ran into his death in the Burning Man fire.
I'm going to guess drugs.
brian redban
Definitely acid.
jamie vernon
They had security around it, too, is what I was reading.
joe rogan
Who knows, man?
That's sad, though.
It's fucking sad.
It's a sad way to die.
brian redban
And he tripped.
joe rogan
He did?
brian redban
Yeah, like, he was so fucked up, maybe he didn't see, but he tripped him into the fire.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
brian redban
Like, the next picture shows him, like, falling.
joe rogan
I don't want to see this.
Oh, wow.
Poor dude.
Poor dude.
brian redban
Sad.
joe rogan
He looks like every dude at Burning Man.
He's got that, you know, like, new-age hippie look.
That's a sad way to die, man.
That's a sad fucking story.
And you would hope that he didn't have, like, a mental issue and then took a drug and then had that episode.
You know, people that are, like, where reality's already slippery for them, like, really strong psychedelics, not recommended.
brian redban
Yeah, but he could have just been that fucked up, and you have a big burning man in front of you.
I've been that fucked where I could have thought that I was running into ice cream or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure, right?
That's a problem with psychedelics.
And it's also the problem with, look, everybody's reactions to these things are gotta be at least slightly different, right?
And some people just aren't designed for them for maybe one style of psychedelics.
It's like some people aren't designed for alcohol.
You know, some people did just they shouldn't drink.
It doesn't work with them.
Who knows what happened?
But that's fucked, man.
Imagine being there and watching that kid run into the fire and just be thinking, like, is this real?
Is he really running into the fire?
You're all fucked up anyway.
I mean, you're not sober.
Even if you were sober, you'd probably feel like you were on drugs.
You're around all these people that are tripping balls.
You're watching this thing burst into fire, and then you watch a guy run into the fire.
You're probably like, is this a movie?
Like, what the fuck is happening here?
Whenever there's an extraordinary event like that, you always feel like it's not real.
Like, what?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What's happening?
You're like, I don't expect this guy to run into the fire.
You see someone run into the fire.
Did he run into the fire?
Like, your brain is scrambling so hard to process it.
That's why they say that people, when they see something fucked up happened, their eyewitness accounts are so bad.
Because so many people, they don't even remember what the hell happened.
They're just so shattered by it all.
unidentified
Like, what?
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Oh, there's a...
I saw a story about a kid, I think he's in the juvenile penal system in New York or something, but he's been used by the system to convict 35 people or something that didn't do anything wrong.
And the article was about the shit he's dealing with.
joe rogan
He's being used?
How?
jamie vernon
I'll pull it up real quick, because he's done something, and probably they're using him to get his sentence reduced.
joe rogan
Oh, so he sets other people up?
Oh, Jesus Christ.
That's the weird one, that they're allowed to have fake crime, and then arrest you for it?
Like, the FBI's done that with people?
Like, talk someone into making a bomb?
And then they give them the parts, and then they give them the bomb, and then they tell them to go somewhere and blow it up, and they do it, and then they arrest them.
brian redban
You're not allowed to do that, right?
joe rogan
They are allowed to.
brian redban
How are you allowed to fish people?
joe rogan
They are.
They're allowed to, man.
brian redban
That's like the old hooker thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
They talk you into it.
But they're allowed to do that now.
It's not like it used to be.
What is that term that I'm looking for?
The old hooker thing.
Seduction.
Right?
No, that's not even it.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
No, entrapment.
brian redban
Entrapment.
joe rogan
Entrapment.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But they're allowed to do that now.
I mean, the slippery slope is definitely going in the wrong direction.
Like, they're allowed to, like...
You could take a really impressionable guy.
There was this one guy they did it to in Texas that was supposed to be...
He was very mentally challenged.
He wasn't a very smart guy.
And this is the guy that they talked into trying to detonate this fake bomb that they'd given him.
And then they arrested him.
brian redban
Wow.
That's really fucked up.
joe rogan
They found some dude who was, like, super troubled.
And they just...
brian redban
They needed a reason.
joe rogan
Mind-fucked him.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you can mindfuck someone in the name of religion.
You can mindfuck someone.
There's a lot of different ways.
Especially, you've got to think like the FBI. It's like a super powerful organization of people that have had decades of experience in the field, know how to handle people, know how to deal with weird shit.
brian redban
That Manson chick's about to get released.
I wonder how she's going.
joe rogan
What is that about?
Keep her in there, please.
brian redban
I know, and she's not going to know any of this technology.
Imagine getting thrown into it.
joe rogan
She's not going to know anything.
Yeah, she killed a pregnant lady, right?
Isn't she one of the ones that was the Tate-LaBianca killings?
brian redban
Yeah, wasn't she?
She was the youngest.
She was the cheerleader.
joe rogan
How old was she?
brian redban
I want to say she was 17. Jesus Christ.
unidentified
But I don't remember if it was 15 or 17. She's in her late 60s now.
joe rogan
Imagine that life, going from being a young teenager to your entire life, you're in a cage, and then all of a sudden as you're an old lady, they go, go ahead, get out for a little bit.
You're like, what the fuck?
That's a crazy documentary waiting to happen.
I hope someone's studying her.
I hope there's a good documentary person that's on that.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a crazy documentary.
brian redban
I mean, who does she live with?
That's a good question.
Maybe that filmmaker's like, hey, you can stay in my Van Nuys one bedroom apartment if I can record everything.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
Have some sort of a pace height?
brian redban
Right.
Like Manson House?
joe rogan
She turns into a cam whore?
brian redban
Yeah, Manson House.
joe rogan
Do you think you're allowed to be a cam whore after you get out of jail for murder?
unidentified
Of course.
brian redban
And she's going to have the tightest pussy known to man.
joe rogan
I don't know about all that.
She's probably been sticking hammers in there for the last 20 years.
I mean, she's been locked up for a long time.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who knows what's going on in there.
unidentified
Fist.
joe rogan
Probably for sure.
Definitely a few.
A few different fists over the last 35 plus years.
Like, when were the...
The Manson killings was probably like 45, 50 years ago, right?
Wasn't it?
brian redban
Was it the 60s?
70s?
joe rogan
Was it?
No, I don't think it was the 70s.
I want to say it was the...
Maybe.
Tate LaBianca murders Manson.
1969. 69. Wow.
69, a lot of shit, huh?
Woodstock...
Wasn't that when Hendrix died?
Did he die in 69?
jamie vernon
That picture was in 69, or that thing says 69 on it.
May 3rd.
joe rogan
I want to say he died in 69 or 70, but I don't remember.
People really do remember, though, and they get super mad if you don't know.
unidentified
Bro, July 27th, 1968. Don't ever fuck that up again.
joe rogan
It's Jimi Hendrix.
That's like John Goodman's character in The Big Lebowski.
brian redban
You could just ask Siri about when he died.
joe rogan
Good, ask Siri.
brian redban
When did Jimi Hendrix die?
jamie vernon
Jimi Hendrix died September 18th, 1970. I found out recently there's a building that's still there on Franklin in Hollywood where Charles Manson used to live and run his whores out of, which I didn't know he was doing.
joe rogan
He was a pimp?
jamie vernon
Yeah, pimpin' girls to people that were staying at the Roosevelt.
brian redban
Now it's a Color Me Bad, right?
unidentified
Color Me Mind is what you meant to say, but perfect.
joe rogan
Color Me Bad's a band.
unidentified
I know.
brian redban
Color Me Mind.
I love Color Me Mind.
joe rogan
Those are great.
They can make a nice mug.
brian redban
Yep.
I painted a dolphin last time I was there.
joe rogan
Alright, we should wrap this up.
I gotta get the fuck out of here.
I got a bunch of shit to do.
Boys, it's been a lot of fun.
Brian, you got any shows coming up?
I know you do.
brian redban
Yeah, November 8th, I'll be at Morty's in Indianapolis with Kate Quigley.
And then the following day, November 9th, I'll be at The Funny Bone in Columbus, Ohio.
And then maybe New York.
joe rogan
Dude, I like that you're going out on the road like just you and one other person.
brian redban
Yeah, me and Kate.
joe rogan
That's a smart move, man.
It's a great way to build your act, too, right?
brian redban
Yeah, it's fun.
Get nice.
And we're doing, like, I just got back from the Mall of America in Edmonton.
Did, like, seven shows in five days.
Oh, dude.
What a workout.
joe rogan
Isn't that the best?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get tightened up, you know?
Brendan Schaub was saying that to me after he got back from Dublin.
He was like, dude, all those reps.
I'm like, that's what it's all about.
You get those four or five set a weekend, you know, weekends, and you're like, woo, tight.
brian redban
So great.
Sometimes you have two shows a night and then you just, hey, I want to fix this in my act.
It's like instant gratification.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it's the shit.
Alright, that's it.
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You still using them?
brian redban
Oh, hell yeah.
Stamps.com.
I'm wearing me undies right now.
joe rogan
Alright, folks.
We'll see you next week.
Bye.
unidentified
I love it.
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