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July 25, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #988 - Nick Swardson
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nick swardson
Turn on the lava lamp.
joe rogan
He knows how to turn on everything.
His name is young Jamie.
Three, two, one.
I'm live with Nick Swartzen, former drug dealer.
Nick, tell us your tale.
Tell us your tale of youth gone wild.
nick swardson
It's a tale of youth gone wild.
joe rogan
We are the youth gone wild.
How many people like broke windows because they heard that song?
Like, yeah, it's me, man.
I'm fucking crazy.
I'm wild!
nick swardson
Finally somebody labeled it!
joe rogan
We are the youth, going wild!
Songs can be inspiring in a bad way sometimes, right?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
They can get you to do some stupid shit.
nick swardson
Dude, you know how many people carelessly whispered?
unidentified
I know.
nick swardson
Fucking careless, dude.
joe rogan
How many people woke people up before they go-go'd?
nick swardson
Yeah, woke them up.
They were not ready to go-go.
unidentified
Yeah, we're planning on going so low.
joe rogan
We lost a lot of fucking people this year.
When you stop and think about George Michael, Prince, who was the latest one?
There was some big ones.
nick swardson
Chester Bennington.
joe rogan
Chester, that was a big one.
And Chris Cornell, both in the same way.
nick swardson
Yeah, and then Chester committed suicide on his birthday.
Chris Cornell's birthday.
unidentified
Dude.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was a weird one, man.
That guy was 41 on top of the world.
The lead singer of one of the biggest rock bands of all time.
But it's hard to say what caused him to be so fucked up, but most people point to he was very sexually abused when he was a young kid.
And he just never recovered from that.
And then, you know...
nick swardson
Yeah, I never knew him, but I had friends that were really close to them, and they just said he was, like, the most gentle, sweet guy.
joe rogan
Fucking powerful voice, man.
nick swardson
Oh, dude, yeah, that guy would shred.
joe rogan
Powerful.
nick swardson
Yeah, no, it's horrible.
joe rogan
It's so hard for people to understand that you could be the lead singer of like, I mean, arguably one of the biggest bands of our generation.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Giant, huge arena filled up.
There was a photo of him standing on stage with no shirt on in this massive arena show and everybody had their cell phone lights on.
You know, people do that now instead of lighters.
Back when I was a kid.
Back when I was a boy, we didn't have cell phones.
nick swardson
We burned our bodies.
joe rogan
We had fire!
Yeah, we had fucking fire hazards.
But he was standing on stage, and I was like, yeah, that's the photo.
Like, look at that shit, man.
nick swardson
That's sick.
joe rogan
No one could ever possibly imagine that that guy would not be insanely happy.
I mean, look how many people love that guy.
You're just getting a tiny fraction of the love that guy must have gotten, and it still wasn't enough.
nick swardson
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So hard to understand.
nick swardson
I mean, yeah, that level of just inner sadness and darkness.
I mean, good lord.
It's just awful to think that that guy went through to get to that point.
joe rogan
And he had six kids.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, I mean, it's just like it had to be so much that even having kids and being with his kids wasn't enough.
Fuck, man.
That's a crazy picture, though.
nick swardson
That's a sick photo.
Oh my god.
I mean, all the way up in the rafters.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that's probably like 30,000 people or something crazy.
nick swardson
Yeah.
Well, look at all the people that don't have phones.
joe rogan
Yeah.
nick swardson
What's their deal?
joe rogan
Losers.
Maybe they're just cheap.
Maybe they're like Ari.
Maybe they just went flip phone.
I can't handle it.
I can't handle the apps.
It's just too much.
Too much temptation.
Ari's resisting it.
He's gonna be chopping his own wood soon.
Ari's gonna have a well, I guarantee you.
He told me he wanted to buy land, and I was like, do you want to build a house?
He goes, no, no, no, I just want to camp there.
I was like, what?
nick swardson
Buy land to camp on?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's gonna buy land, but he's not gonna build a house.
nick swardson
Like Landland or like a plot?
joe rogan
Ari likes camping.
They were calling it glumping, which is camping with cum.
It was him.
nick swardson
Camping?
joe rogan
Big Jay Oakerson.
Big Jay posted it on his Instagram page.
But he loves being outside.
He loves nature.
I mean, I get it.
Look, if you can camp, if you really don't need a house, what do you need?
You need a trailer to keep your shit in.
You need a trailer to put pots and pans in.
nick swardson
Yeah.
If you still want shit, you know what I mean?
You can't have posters anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, no posters.
Can't put Farrah Fawcett on the roof of your tent.
nick swardson
Can't put Youth Gone Wild poster up.
joe rogan
Yeah, how many fucking songs?
nick swardson
Why does he just fucking go camping?
Why do you have to, like, buy...
To me, that's not camping if you own a plot of land and then you're just sleeping on it.
Is that technically camping?
joe rogan
That's a very good point.
nick swardson
That's sleeping on your land.
joe rogan
That's like if you're hunting and there's a fence around the animals and you're only on one acre.
nick swardson
Exactly.
joe rogan
Is that really hunting?
nick swardson
It's not fucking hunting, man.
joe rogan
You're just chasing down shit that can't run away.
nick swardson
Yeah.
You're cheating.
joe rogan
You're not camping.
No bears are gonna just wander up by your campsite.
nick swardson
Nope.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're out there for real in the wild.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't be on your own little land unless your land is huge.
But then if your land is huge and you have, like, say if you have, like, one of those ranches in Texas.
Right.
You ever see those, you know, Texas is, like, something insane amount of Texas is private land.
There's not a lot of public land in Texas.
It's just all giant ranches.
And some of them are, like, 10,000 plus acres, like 20,000, 100,000.
Like you could camp there, I guess, because it takes you like three hours to drive across it.
nick swardson
That's weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, drive to your house, man.
nick swardson
That's too much land.
joe rogan
It's too much, right?
nick swardson
It's too much.
Why do you need that much land?
joe rogan
How about Ted Turner?
Doesn't that guy own like the most land of anybody in the country?
Here today, King Ranch sprawls 825,000 acres of South Texas land, an area larger than the state of Rhode Island.
nick swardson
Oh my gosh.
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
That's the home of 35,000 cattle and over 200 quarter horses.
King Ranch is one of the largest ranches in the world today.
I wonder if they hunt on that ranch.
nick swardson
Who owns that?
Which king?
joe rogan
Some fucking baller.
He might as well be.
He's the king of Rhode Island.
nick swardson
Burger King?
Maybe it's the Burger King guy.
joe rogan
That is insane, man.
That is insane.
nick swardson
No gay bars.
joe rogan
Okay, there's three or four in there.
For sure.
nick swardson
That would be amazing.
joe rogan
No gay bars, but there's plenty of trek stops.
Rest stops are like where they're at now.
They haven't really gotten to the full-on gay bar.
Not full admittance.
They just wanted them to meet at the rest stops.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you remember when we were kids?
That was like the thing.
Like, you'd always know that dudes would try to bang dudes at a rest stop.
nick swardson
100%.
joe rogan
Like, if you're at a rest stop and someone knocks on your door and it's a dude, he's looking to get a blowjob or something.
nick swardson
Yeah, there's no rest there.
Nobody's resting.
People are wide awake.
joe rogan
Sucking dicks!
nick swardson
Wide awake and in your mouth.
joe rogan
But how did they figure out to meet at rest stops?
I've always wondered.
Like, how does that work?
nick swardson
CB radio.
unidentified
That's how it was, dude.
joe rogan
Breaker Breaker 1-9, I'm looking to suck some dick.
Anybody out there holler back?
nick swardson
69er, 69er.
Coming in.
joe rogan
Breaker Breaker 1-9, I like to meet in bathrooms.
The smell of shit excites me.
unidentified
Over.
joe rogan
Do you remember when that...
Do you remember when that...
Was it a senator or...
Whatever the politician was.
The gentleman who got arrested in a sting operation.
Because so many dudes were sucking dicks in the bathroom at the airport.
I think it was like...
nick swardson
It was in fucking Minneapolis.
That's where I'm from.
joe rogan
Yeah.
nick swardson
And then people called me about it.
I was like, what the fuck?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Hey man, what's the code?
nick swardson
What's up with your airport?
What stall was it?
How many taps on the foot?
joe rogan
But it had to be so many people that they actually went and put a cop there to try to bust people.
I mean, how many people have to get their dick sucked in a place before they hire a cop?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, well, we found a hot spot.
They figured it out.
Here it is.
Senator pleaded guilty reportedly after bathroom stall incident.
nick swardson
Yeah, arrest Minneapolis-St.
Paul Airport.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he was like tapping on the ground.
They had a way of tapping.
nick swardson
Yeah, there was a tap move.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay, what does he say?
At the time of the incident, I complained to the police they were misconstruing my actions.
I was not involved in any inappropriate conduct, he said.
I should have had the advice of counsel in resolving this matter.
In hindsight, I should not have pled guilty.
I was trying to handle this matter myself quickly and expeditiously.
Oh, I get it.
nick swardson
And I travel wearing tap shoes.
joe rogan
See, part of me thinks this is hilarious, but part of me is sad that this guy has to, like, hide...
What he's into, and he has to hide in bathroom stalls and learn some fucking secret tap.
nick swardson
And just smell farts from around the world as he's coming.
joe rogan
According to the arrest report cited by Roll Call, Craig tapped his right foot, which the officer said he recognized as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct.
But what if you were there and you're just tapping your foot?
nick swardson
Yeah, what if you're just impatient because your shit's taking so long?
joe rogan
Oh, you saw other stuff?
Next, oh, he also then entered the stall next door and blocked the door with his luggage.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
nick swardson
What does that mean?
How did other people get in then?
joe rogan
Oh my God.
nick swardson
Oh, was he in there with somebody?
joe rogan
He was trying to block anybody from coming in.
Oh my God.
He must have been just going to town on guys in that airport.
That was his spot.
nick swardson
And people were kicking, trying to kick in the door?
unidentified
What was happening there?
nick swardson
I got a shit!
joe rogan
But how does like, how does a spot become notorious?
Like, how does arrested, what does it say?
Proceeded to swipe his hand under the stalled divider several times.
I want to know what the fuck the cop was saying.
If he was like, stop.
I can't do it here.
I can't tuck your dick here.
We don't know what the cop was saying.
What if the cop was totally leading him on?
I mean, it sounds like he had the green light, unless the guy's a total psychopath.
When you go into a stall with another dude and you stack up your luggage in front of the door, that's a bold move.
nick swardson
That's weird.
joe rogan
It seems like you would only do that if you were emboldened.
jamie vernon
He didn't just tap his foot, he touched the officer's foot with his foot.
unidentified
He reached his foot all the way under.
joe rogan
Here's my question.
We know cops are full of shit.
Just like people.
People are full of shit.
But cops are people.
Not all cops.
A lot of cops are awesome.
We know some cops are full of shit.
When something like this happens, I feel like it's one person versus another person.
I don't really feel like a cop's word is worth more than a regular person's word.
Because I think a cop is just a regular person.
I think you should listen to them when they're doing the job.
But something like this, it might have been exactly as this cop described, but it might have been like that Baltimore cop that got busted planting drugs with his fucking camera.
He had a body camera on, and what he didn't understand is when you turn on a body camera, it records 30 seconds before you turned it on.
So just in case you turn it on in a moment of duress with something crazy is going on, you're like, shut the camera, and you press it on, they can see someone committing a crime perhaps.
So you have a 30 second buffer.
nick swardson
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
He didn't know that either, dude.
So they got on video 30 seconds of him going back and planting the drugs that he then pretended to find.
nick swardson
Oh my god.
unidentified
Dude.
nick swardson
That's horrifying.
joe rogan
Horrible.
nick swardson
Horrible.
Fucking horrifying.
joe rogan
That's horrible.
It's horrible.
See, because if you're going to be able to convict somebody, and this guy says this, and that guy says that, and who do you believe?
Well, I believe the cop.
He's an officer of the law.
That's crazy, because it's just a person.
This is not a disrespectful thing against cops.
I'm not a disrespectful person.
nick swardson
No, but that's a scary amount of power.
joe rogan
It's a scary amount of power, and it's just a person.
Now, some people, like I have a bunch of friends that are cops, and they know how to handle it.
You know, they've handled it, and they get it, they know what it is, and they're real cool about it.
Like Big John McCarthy, the ref for the UFC, he's one of the best examples.
Big John, he was a serious cop, involved in some fucking hairy shit for years.
One of the nicest guys you ever want to meet.
And totally fair and reasonable guy.
And he was a guy, you know, that was like a bright and shining example of what a cop could be.
And if the world was filled with Big John McCarthy's as cops, it'd be a wonderful place.
I think we'd all figure it out.
But cops are just people, man.
Especially when these cops are going into these situations.
Like, imagine being a 21-year-old guy, however the fuck old you are, and all of a sudden you're working in, like, Camden, New Jersey.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
You're not ready for that.
You're some regular dude, and you're gonna get thrust into some chaotic, almost semi-war zone in some of these bad neighborhoods these people have to patrol.
nick swardson
Yeah, and just another world with another set of rules and just shit just going down all the time.
joe rogan
And anything you're coming up on is most likely a threat to your life.
You pull a guy over.
Like, you pull a guy over in a 65 Impala.
What are the odds that guy doesn't have a gun?
Right?
You see like one of them low-rider cars, and you see some gangster-looking fellas with some crazy face tattoos and shit, and they're driving one of those cars.
Can you imagine having to pull over someone who you knew was probably willing to shoot you?
And you have to talk to them about their brake light being off, or they were five miles an hour above the speed limit.
You know the videos.
You've seen videos of cops getting shot.
We all have.
You know that that could happen.
You're around people just lying all the time.
They're all lying.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many of them are telling the truth and talk to you?
nick swardson
90% full of shit.
joe rogan
90%!
So every day, it's just stress!
nick swardson
Panic!
I mean, like, when I would get pulled over, I mean, like, I'd panic.
I fucking, like, yeah.
joe rogan
That cop that shot that chick, the recent one, where the woman called...
nick swardson
In Minnesota, yeah.
joe rogan
She called for the police, and then she came out, and when she came out, the cop shot her.
That, to me, is a perfect example of why, like, we should reassess what a cop is and reassess, like, how many people get to be cops.
It's an extraordinary responsibility.
You're putting on just any person, an ordinary person, I would say.
I think you have to be an extraordinary person to be a good cop.
For sure.
And I think you also have to deal with the fact that there's been a lot of bad cops and there's a lot of prejudice against cops.
Those are like two giant factors.
But I think that job where you decide whether or not you pull the trigger and end someone's life, and you're a panicker.
You know, you're a panicker.
You're not a guy who does well in confrontational situations.
Maybe you haven't been in a lot of conflicts.
Maybe you've seen too much shit.
Maybe you've seen too many people get shot.
Maybe you're suffering from PTSD. Maybe you're on edge all the time.
Maybe you have nightmares that someone's going to take you out.
And then all of a sudden you're in the hallway.
And this lady comes out, or an alleyway, and you shoot her.
And you're like, what the fuck?
Like, you might not even saw her!
You know, people have hallucinations under great duress.
Like, when they think their life is on the line, they see things that aren't really there.
It happens to people all the time.
They'll, like, mistake someone for something else.
They'll mistake someone for an attacker.
nick swardson
I mean that's fucking insane.
I mean she CALLED the cops!
unidentified
Crazy.
nick swardson
That's what's fucking insane to call 911 because she heard what she thought was a woman being assaulted and then to approach the cop car and they get fucking shot.
joe rogan
Crazy.
nick swardson
I mean like what?
joe rogan
But it's what it is is people not handling pressure very well.
Pressure is it's it is such a massive factor in the way people behave and And there's no bigger pressure than you showing up.
You have bright, shiny lights.
You're in the enemy car, okay?
You're wearing the enemy uniform, and they know you have a gun.
And how many of them have watched so many videos on TV of cops planting evidence, or on YouTube, of cops planting evidence of kids being shot by cops, and stories where cops got off.
nick swardson
Shot in the back.
I mean, like, crazy shit, yeah.
joe rogan
Crazy shit, right?
So you're dealing with the weight of that when you step out of your car.
nick swardson
Yeah, I mean that's anxiety 24-7.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a job that is insanely hard to do, and we should figure out a way to re-engineer that position.
We should figure out a way to give them more help, more support, and explain, like, the only way, like, cops and civilians are gonna get along is if there's no fuck-ups.
Or very, very few fuck-ups.
Anytime something like this happens, you've got to realize you've got a bad system.
You can't have just a regular person and give them a gun.
What kind of psychological training do they have?
Have you seen what they're like?
How did they get the gig?
Have you seen what they're like under the gun?
Have you seen what they're like when someone wants to beat their ass?
Have you seen what they're like when someone is throwing punches at them, trying to kill them?
Some guy, randomly, right?
He answers a call, he opens a door, a guy's throwing bombs at him.
What does he do?
How does he handle this?
Does he shoot the guy?
Does he run away?
Can he fight back?
Has he ever been punched?
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Fuck, man, you're asking some regular person to just be involved in a potential civilian war zone on any given day.
If you're in Miami, Florida, and someone got gunshots fired in a warehouse, you're like, what are the odds these guys don't have piles of cocaine in this warehouse?
I've seen Narcos.
Come on, man.
nick swardson
Well, that's the thing.
You've never seen a mellow cop movie.
There's no chill movie where it's like, all right, yeah, you got a speeding ticket.
And then the end, it's like always fucking nuts.
joe rogan
Except smoking the bandit.
It's pretty...
nick swardson
Even then, they drove recklessly.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they could do that back then.
unidentified
They drove recklessly, Joe.
joe rogan
There was nobody around.
nick swardson
Yeah, I mean...
joe rogan
Nobody to hit.
nick swardson
Alright, I have a question for you.
Okay.
What is this I hear about your dream pills?
Dream pills?
Somebody said that you have pills that...
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
It's alpha brain.
It's a nootropic.
What it is, it's actually nutrients that are building blocks for human neurotransmitters.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
So, like, there's certain foods that are called...
I'm saying foods because you eat them.
They're supplements.
Mostly vitamins and there's minerals and a bunch of different things that you can get from plants and there's a series of different kinds of nootropics and if you've never looked into it, it's a cool thing to study.
There are actually supplements out there that enhance your memory and they enhance your reaction time as well.
Like, you know how you feel like if you're hungover or...
nick swardson
I've never been hungover.
joe rogan
You wouldn't even understand what this is.
You're such a man of health.
nick swardson
Never drank.
joe rogan
But that feeling where you're kind of foggy.
Or some days, it's not firing right.
So we know for sure, this is really obvious to everybody, that there's a difference in your performance based on a variety of factors, right?
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Lack of sleep, nutrition, exercise, stress.
There's a whole host of factors that affect how your brain forms.
Nootropics, what they can do is boost up your brain's ability to remember things, like verbal memory is a big one that they show.
We did two double-blind, placebo-controlled studies about alpha brain.
It's one of the things we found.
We found memory, reaction time, and peak alpha flow state, all improvements, all statistically significant improvements in those areas.
Okay.
What I found is there was a company called, I think it's Neuro One is the supplement.
I forget his company, but it's Bill Romanowski.
You know Bill Romanowski?
nick swardson
I know Bill very well, yeah.
joe rogan
That guy is a genius.
nick swardson
Jesus, yeah.
joe rogan
Genius.
Savage.
Savage as a football player.
Super savage.
And remember, we're going to talk about the new CTE study that just came out.
It's crazy with football players.
But anyway, Bill Romanowski, he used to be friends with this dude, Sarah and No Name.
And No Name was a cool radio station in San Francisco.
I used to love doing them.
And No Name was friends with Romanowski and Romanowski was training him.
He was like, he was like trying to get him in shape.
It's like, come on you fuck.
I'm gonna work you out and put him through a bunch of brutal workouts.
And then he gave him some of his supplement.
And that's how I found out about it.
And the supplement Neuro One, he invented because he was suffering from head injuries.
Right.
Because he'd been through so many concussions, man.
He's having memory problems and all sorts of issues.
So he started looking into...
Nutritional cures, like what helps boost neurotransmitters, which helps boost serotonin.
There's like 5-HTP is a big one that helps boost serotonin.
And L-tryptophan as well, because L-tryptophan actually converts to 5-HTP. And then you have to add in a bunch of other shit, like adaptogens and B vitamins and all these different things.
There's a combination that you can hit of nutrients.
And Bill Romanowski, I think he uses a little caffeine in his as well.
I don't have anything to do with him, by the way.
This is not an advertisement.
We don't sell Neural One, but it's the shit.
It's really good.
And that's the first thing I found out about.
I found out about that, and then we wound up making Alpha Brain, which is our version of it, with a bunch of things that work together synergistically.
And if you take that stuff before bedtime, a lot of times you get freaky dreams.
Like, if you take it like an hour before bedtime, it seems like right when you go to sleep, That's when it's just getting into your system.
And I guess when you go into your REM sleep, just get an extra fucking fat juicy pipe of neurotransmitters to work with.
You start having freaky ass dreams.
nick swardson
You're just full inception.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Paracetum is really good too.
People love that stuff.
nick swardson
Love that.
joe rogan
Choline.
Choline is a big one.
That's one of the ingredients.
nick swardson
What the fuck are these things?
Are these in Lucky Charms?
What is happening?
joe rogan
They're definitely in Lucky Charms.
They should be.
unidentified
People would be like, my lucky charms made me very smart today.
joe rogan
They're basically, you know, they're nutrients.
nick swardson
Yeah, no, that's the trip.
No, I was just wondering.
joe rogan
People are super skeptical about this, and you definitely should be.
You definitely should be.
I would never ever, in a million years, try to sell someone something that doesn't work.
I have zero desire in doing that.
So everything that we do at Onnit, I use.
I use, or I believe in it.
There's no horseshit thing.
So when this whole nootropics thing came out, we rushed and got alpha brain out.
And a lot of people called it bullshit.
They're like, there's no studies.
This is no science.
This is snake oil.
I was like, oh, you've got to have all your ducks in a row when you start claiming that you have nutrients.
Regardless of whatever anecdotal evidence you have.
It was a good learning experience.
nick swardson
But I mean that's weird because people never just cry bullshit over stuff for no reason.
People never just go, what?
No, fuck that!
It's like everything that happens.
You know what I saw?
joe rogan
I saw Katy Perry sitting down with DeRay Mackeson.
Did you say Mackeson or Mackeson?
Of Black Lives Matter.
And Katy Perry was apologizing about cultural appropriation because I guess she wore braids.
For whatever fucking reason.
And she was sitting there.
It's the weirdest thing ever, man.
They're both on a couch and they have no shoes on.
And she's touching him and he's wearing a blue vest.
I was like, what the fuck am I watching?
nick swardson
Was that in a dream?
Or was that a real thing?
joe rogan
I was like, look, look, look.
No, no.
Here's the thing.
Dude wears that blue vest everywhere.
I mean, he loves that blue vest.
That's his look.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like Mr. Rogers.
Mr. Rogers.
First of all, look at his socks.
I love his socks.
He's a strong, confident man.
nick swardson
Are they in the Matrix?
joe rogan
Those socks are rainbows, homie.
Bitch, color's there.
And so she's culturally appropriating a lesbian right now with her hair.
She should be careful.
She's culturally appropriating literally an old lesbian.
She has gray hair.
nick swardson
What is that hipster insane asylum that they're in?
joe rogan
That's her bathroom.
That's where she shits.
That picture on the wall, it comes down and she climbs on top and shits in the mouth of the...
It's crazy.
It's a new thing.
unidentified
That's so hot.
joe rogan
It's a new thing all the celebrities are doing.
Like, look how they're sitting here facing each other.
It's so bizarre.
I can't play you any of this because I don't want to get the video pulled off YouTube, but it's...
nick swardson
That's super weird.
joe rogan
And mostly it's him sitting there listening to her just go like this.
unidentified
Blah!
joe rogan
Bullshit coming out of her mouth.
nick swardson
Barfing.
joe rogan
She just didn't want people to be mad at her for doing...
nick swardson
For wearing braids?
joe rogan
Yeah, for cultural appropriation.
nick swardson
Was there an outrage?
joe rogan
Let's see what she looked like when she was culturally appropriating.
Cultural appropriation is so crazy.
The idea that you can't have braids if you're white.
Oh my god.
All you're trying to do...
People are just trying to control people.
They're trying to control people.
nick swardson
Everybody wants their fucking two cents.
Everybody wants to throw in and chime in.
It's just everywhere.
Everybody wants to be like, I have something to say.
It's like, alright, well, fuck you.
joe rogan
And everybody wants to be able to be mad.
They want to have a reason to get mad.
nick swardson
Yeah, we talked about that earlier.
Everybody wants to be super, super mad.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about the behind-the-scenes stuff at shows, and about how many different mindsets you have to kind of manage when you're working on a show, and how many people are just looking to get outraged about stuff, especially lately.
It's a weird fucking time for this.
nick swardson
Yeah, no, you can't joke.
I mean, I send out, like, loose cannon tweets sometimes, and I would do it more back in the day, and then I just...
Like, the more I, you know, I get shit-faced and then, like, write a tweet, and I'm like, I just, I don't even want to deal with what somehow somebody could...
I mean, even, like, innocuous, harmless Instagrams and stuff, people will still, like, jump on them.
I'll be like, hey, you know, like, I saw this bird, and they're like, whoa, what's it, what kind of bird is that?
Well, what, did you fuck it?
Or, you know what I mean?
Like, why are you hitting on the bird?
I'm not, I just saw it.
joe rogan
Don't you think, though, that for the most part, most of the interactions are pretty nice?
There's just a small percentage.
nick swardson
Yeah, for the most part, yeah.
joe rogan
But those small percentages you don't forget.
nick swardson
No, and it's just, I mean, it's the ones that are really irrational.
And the ones that always make me laugh are people that'll go, like, they'll comment or something, and I don't really, you know, I'll read comments, like, in an Uber or on a plane or something, and I'll just, like, oh, I'll see you, check out the comments.
Somebody will be like, hey, fuck you, you're a piece of shit.
I'm like, alright.
And then I'll just like it.
And then they'll comment back, like, I can't believe you like that.
Like, I was just kidding.
Like, I'm a huge fan.
And I'm just like...
Well, this is just weird for me.
joe rogan
It's too weird.
nick swardson
You just wrote a whole thing about how I'm a piece of shit, and I just liked it, and now you're like, nah, I just want to get you to respond.
joe rogan
Yeah, from their perspective, that's the best way to get them to respond.
That's the best way.
That way, you'll have your back up against the wall.
nick swardson
Well, it's like you said.
A lot of this stuff's positive, and then the ones that pop are the people that are like...
Hey, your fucking face sucks.
unidentified
Wow.
nick swardson
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's so rude.
nick swardson
Which it does.
joe rogan
Your face does not suck.
nick swardson
It's dease.
joe rogan
Dude, you're fine.
nick swardson
Dease face.
joe rogan
Listen, there's a lot of people out there with some fucked up faces that would kill for your face.
nick swardson
But no, I was saying about dreams, I would have, like, when I would detox from, like, a fucking booze extravaganza, and I would, I would have dreams, that's why I was intrigued, because I would have fucking crazy dreams, where I would be, it would be so lucid.
joe rogan
I want to hear Riders in the Storm right now.
nick swardson
Riders in the Storm.
unidentified
Riders in the Storm.
joe rogan
That was like a like a mixed version.
nick swardson
Yeah, it was like an elevator on mushrooms.
joe rogan
Like DJ version.
So you would detox?
nick swardson
I would detox and I would have these dreams and they were so lucid and I'd be like walking around the dream and I would know I was dreaming and I couldn't wake myself up and I would try to wake myself up so then I would try to like jump dive out of a window to wake myself up or try to like do something that will like jar me awake and then I would do it and And then I would wake up, and then I would be in another fucking dream.
And I'd be in my bedroom, and I'd be like, oh, I'm gonna go up and get some water.
And then all of a sudden I'd realize, oh my god, I'm still in the dream because this isn't the shit on my walls.
And I'd have to wake myself up again.
Fucking gnarly, dude.
joe rogan
Like you psyched yourself out in the dream.
Yeah, it's crazy.
nick swardson
You're like, I gotta wake up.
joe rogan
You're like, hey, wake up, wake up.
Oh, look, you're awake.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was really just more dream.
nick swardson
You're awake.
Psych.
Yeah, so that's why I was kind of fascinated by that.
joe rogan
It makes you wonder, what is real?
If you could live in a perpetual dream, what's going on there?
There's still something happening.
You're experiencing things.
Things are happening.
Whether you're lying there with your eyes closed or not, There's a bunch of shit that's going on, a bunch of experiences that your senses are taken in that are pretty fucking remarkably similar to real life.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Like, that's why it's so crazy, because it feels real, right?
That's why dreams, like especially lucid dreams, trip you out, because it feels real.
nick swardson
It feels real, but I like that...
Like when you dream like a really weird dream, you just accept the reality of like, like when I remember a dream, I'll be like, yeah, I just totally was in this dream and just accepted that I was like riding a rabbit, you know what I mean?
Like over a fucking skyscraper to like save Katy Perry's face or something.
I just totally accept it.
I'm like, yeah, this is what I'm doing.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking beard, that fabulous Morrison beard.
People didn't have beards back then either.
When he grew this beard, the video is him and a...
A fucking beautiful old Mustang.
Being a bad motherfucker.
nick swardson
Yeah, beards were like considered rogue back then.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he was as rogue as it came, man.
Dude used to pull his dick out on stage.
Went to jail for it.
nick swardson
He's driving to the Tempe Improv right there.
I remember that.
He was gonna go see Joey.
joe rogan
How do we know what really goes on when you're asleep for eight hours?
How do we know when you're out cold, when you're out, right?
How the fuck do we know what's actually happening?
What's going on in these dream states?
Because you only remember a fraction of the time you're out, right?
There's a fraction of the time.
What if dreams aren't fake?
What if they're just some alternative reality that you occasionally Intermingle with when you're conscious or unconscious rather like when you go into a dream state Maybe that's just like the shadow of something that just happened that was real Maybe you have like these these moments that seem like eight hours to you or five hours to you But you're really interfacing with some completely different timeline and some completely different reality and And the world is pliable.
It's not locked down like rocks aren't rocks and water isn't water, but everything's fluid and changing constantly.
And that's why when you're in these dreams, you freak out because all of a sudden like the physics of reality are gone.
nick swardson
You're walking through walls.
I've like snapped two into it, maybe.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There might be a war.
Look, just the fact that this world exists in the state that it exists in.
This world is very, very bizarre.
If it wasn't real, if reality wasn't real, if we all lived in some sort of a black and white print version of life, and then you got to experience the life that you and I know, doing stand-up and being in LA and flying in planes and using the internet and experiencing life in the 21st century, in 2017, you would be like, this is the craziest psychedelic trip.
If you went to Times Square And you'd never experienced anything like human culture.
And you went to Times Square.
You would be freaking the fuck out.
nick swardson
Yeah, that'd be insane.
joe rogan
It would be insane.
We're just so used to it.
We're so used to it, we don't realize how bizarre the actual world is.
So it's possible that these dream worlds, that these are just different worlds that you tap into when you conk out.
Every night is a different world be could be infinite could be you're running a series of lives Like you have multiple lives going on and your decisions you make in this conscious life affect all of them And maybe you have other lives when you're asleep that are conscious when you're awake But much like you're asleep and you don't remember what the fuck is going on when they're asleep They don't remember what the fuck is going on and you interface you might not just be Nick Swartzen and Stand-up comedian.
You might be an entity that interfaces with multiple different dimensions in the night.
Fuck.
And you just don't remember it, just like you don't remember sleeping.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You don't remember dreaming.
You don't remember a lot of shit that happens when you're conked out for eight hours, right?
Well, they probably don't remember when you're awake.
And you're interfacing.
You're not just shutting off.
Like, your brain wants to, everything needs to shut off so that your other self in this other dimension can interact.
And can go about its its world and maybe eight hours to it is a month or a week to us.
We don't even fucking know Maybe that's a huge important part of being a person is that other world has to has to coincide with it Maybe that's why Michael Jackson died Because they gave him that shit that conked him out that didn't you don't dream under that shit They would basically put him under anesthesia every night and he wouldn't get to interface with the other world Alright, I gotta go.
nick swardson
No, you never know.
joe rogan
I might have got too high.
nick swardson
I'm fascinated by dreams.
They fucking are weird, man.
But I mean, yeah, maybe they do mean something.
Maybe there's another...
joe rogan
Most likely not.
nick swardson
I mean, yeah, I think maybe I'm just covered in spiders and screaming.
I think that's basically literal.
joe rogan
You work out stuff in your dreams sometimes.
unidentified
I work out stuff, but I don't work out.
joe rogan
Ever?
nick swardson
I never go to the gym in dreams.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
nick swardson
I've never fucking ever worked out in a dream.
joe rogan
I've never done that either.
nick swardson
That's fucking crazy.
I just realized that.
joe rogan
I used to throw kicks in my dreams.
I used to, like, when I was young, especially.
Like, girlfriends would complain.
I would, like, twitch.
I would, like, literally, like, throw a kick.
Remember when Bill Burr made jokes about it, like, sounded like a Bruce Springsteen song?
Throwing kicks in the night?
It was like an old Ice House Chronicles.
We went on a whole rant about it, but it was really true.
A lot of guys have that problem, like fighters have that problem.
nick swardson
Dude, my fucking old roommate in New York, we couldn't wake him up.
You had to throw something at him from across the room and then hide.
Because he would wake up in an immediate melee.
It was immediately, like, game time.
And we found out the hard way.
We were like, hey, wake up.
And it was just, ding, ding, ding!
And it was just like, RUN! And it would take him, like, fucking, like, 15 seconds to, like, come back down.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
nick swardson
Yeah, so I don't know what- Every day?
Every fucking day.
joe rogan
What if an alarm clock woke him up?
He wakes up swinging or no?
It has to be a person?
nick swardson
It would have to be a person.
joe rogan
That's why I just put an alarm clock next to him.
nick swardson
Well, you couldn't afford it.
We were the alarm clock.
The bloody alarm clock.
joe rogan
Some people don't like to be woken up, man.
They get super mad at you.
And other people just chill.
Like, hey, what's up?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's going on, man?
Why are you guys waking me up?
nick swardson
Hey, man.
Why are you naked?
joe rogan
Ever seen someone get knocked out?
And they ask questions?
They think, like, what's going on here?
It's the weirdest thing.
Like, why are you guys here?
Like, why are you guys staring at me?
nick swardson
Oh, right.
I've seen it before, but I've never...
Not in front of me.
joe rogan
Dude, it's weird.
It's weird.
The brain, the human brain, when it gets shut off and then comes back on, it's almost like an old Windows 95 computer when it reboots and you see the DOS thing.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, you see the...
What is that?
The black with the white screen?
The boot screen?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it the DAW screen?
And then it would take a long time to boot up and it'd be all janky and shit, and you wouldn't be able to click on the internet yet.
It was like, when you get clanged, like, I imagine football players, it's the same thing, but they oftentimes don't remember shit.
They don't remember anything that happened.
They might not even remember, like, getting into the ring.
They might not remember any of it.
nick swardson
Well, I was gonna say, I mean, you've seen so many fighters go through it.
Do they...
Do they ever remember the knockout?
joe rogan
Some of them do, yeah.
Some of them remember everything.
nick swardson
They remember seeing like, oh fuck, like that last moment where he's like, he caught me, and then they're just out.
joe rogan
Yeah, they remember getting hit.
They remember what hit him.
Some of them.
Some of them don't remember anything.
That's the thing about brain damage.
It's completely variable.
It's variable, like there's some guys that just, they've been knocked out a ton of times, and they're okay.
It's weird.
Alistair Overeem is a perfect example.
He's been knocked out a gang of times, and he's fine.
At least he appears to be.
He's very lucid, very articulate.
I mean, he's got his composure.
But after fights, he doesn't.
When you get cracked, he got knocked out when he fought Stipe Miocic.
And this is not his fault.
And I said after this that I don't think we should interview fighters anymore after they get knocked out.
Because he said that he thought that Stipe tapped.
He thought he had the guillotine and Stipe tapped.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So he was saying that in the replay.
So we had to play the replay back because we didn't know if he was right.
I'm like, we'll play it.
Because he was saying this to me while I was interviewing him.
nick swardson
That's wild.
joe rogan
And so we played it and you couldn't see the tap.
I think he believed it.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was just because he just got knocked out.
nick swardson
Yeah.
No, that's not a good idea to interview people after they get knocked out.
joe rogan
It's a terrible idea.
unidentified
Terrible idea.
joe rogan
And I had thought it before.
But I never, I really, you know, it's like, I just felt, I felt bad.
Like, I had to play the video.
Because he said that it happened.
So if he said that it happened, my job as an interviewer is to play that video.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
I just expected him to say something along the lines of, you know, I thought I had him, you know, if you could remember the fight.
I thought I had him, but he got him, he got me, fair play to him.
You know, the normal stuff.
Give them a chance to represent themselves.
So when that was going on, I was like, okay, this is not fair.
This is like, he just got knocked out cold.
There's no way, like, three minutes later.
nick swardson
Yeah, no way.
joe rogan
No way.
And then everybody gets mad at him for that.
You know, you can't get mad at someone for that.
nick swardson
No.
joe rogan
It's too weird.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
So this study came out today.
Brendan Schaub sent it to me, because he's freaking out.
It said that, what is it?
Something like 97%?
Okay, they examined 111 former NFL players.
Only one didn't have CTE. Wow.
Not only that, they found that 87% of people who play football at any level had CTE. This is what's really crazy.
Men who played football at all levels, all levels, from like, so I assume that's got to mean like high school.
unidentified
That's including high school.
nick swardson
Well, yeah, that's got to mean.
joe rogan
And who was that guy, Jamie?
We talked about this before.
Forgive me for...
I'm not a football fan.
I like football, but just don't know enough about it.
Who was that guy that jumped on the car?
unidentified
Chris Henry was his name.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That guy was young and like a super stud athlete, right?
unidentified
Might have been like 25, 26, something like that.
joe rogan
When they did an autopsy on him, they found he had severe CTE. It was like, this guy's brain is wrecked.
See if you can pull that study up because people were super shocked because he was in his prime.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, he was in his prime and he was a super athlete.
nick swardson
Yeah, I remember that.
joe rogan
I mean, Jamie, you know a lot about football.
How much of a badass was he?
jamie vernon
Oh, as far as like top wide receivers, he wasn't maybe like in the top 10, but he was growing.
nick swardson
No, but he was starting to come into his own, man.
joe rogan
He died in a traffic accident, had chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
I always fuck that up.
Encephalopathy. Encephalopathy. Encephalopathy. Encephalopathy. Encephalopathy. Encephalopathy.
nick swardson
Encephalopathy.
Boom.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's got to be neurosurgeons going crazy right now.
Shut the fuck up, you idiots!
You can't even pronounce a word.
A form of degenerative brain damage caused by multiple hits to the head.
At the time of his death, according to the scientist at Brain Injury Research Center, a research center affiliated with West Virginia University, the guy says, in quotes, we would have been very happy if the results had been negative, but multiple areas of Chris Henry's brain showed CTE. And then they go into details about it.
So you gotta think, like, here's a guy who's in his prime, 28 years old, right?
Just bad motherfucker.
nick swardson
Ugh.
joe rogan
And he's not showing any signs of, like, falling apart.
And he's got CTE. CTE. That's scary.
nick swardson
Well, I mean, it makes you think, too.
I mean, I talked about that with a lot of my friends.
I'm a big NFL dude, diehard football fan.
And we were talking the other day, like, does it continue?
I mean, like, 25 years from now...
joe rogan
It deteriorates for a lot of these guys.
nick swardson
Yeah, but I'm saying, like, does the NFL... Oh, I see what you're saying.
Does the NFL continue?
I mean, at some point, these studies and these things are going to come out, and it's just going to be...
You know, it's horrifying.
joe rogan
I think you're better off fighting.
I think you can get knocked out in fighting, and you definitely get brain damage in fighting, but I think if you become like a Mighty Mouse, like if you get to a skill level that very few people get to, when you're at a super elite skill level, I think you probably take less damage.
It's hard to say because there's been some fucking wars with elite.
I mean, the Mighty Mouse thing might be a bad example because he's so fucking good A lot of his fights are just mismatches.
It's not like there's another Mighty Mouse out there that's trying to fuck him.
Everyone can't be the Mighty Mouse.
You know what I'm saying?
There's going to be various levels of competency across the board.
But if you could fight the way that guy fights...
He's not a brawler.
He's not doing anything stupid.
He's not just biting on his mouthpiece and throwing bombs.
He's super technical in his approach.
He's a consummate professional and a strategic wizard in how he approaches interacting with guys.
Ooh, I almost...
Strategically wizard all over myself.
See how I caught that though?
nick swardson
You almost wizarded all over your tits.
joe rogan
But what he does is just probably the safest way to do it.
The smartest way to do it.
Because he's just so competent that he's not getting hit.
And his tactics are so clever and so skillful that he's able to avoid a lot of big bombs that come his way.
Football players aren't avoiding shit.
nick swardson
No, you're getting hit.
Everyone's getting hit.
joe rogan
You're getting hit.
There's no Mighty Mouse in the football world, right?
If you're a linebacker, you're fucking hitting people.
They're hitting you, you're hitting them, period.
nick swardson
If you're on the line, it's non-stop.
joe rogan
Dude, not just that.
It's not even getting hit in the head.
They're saying doing this, like slamming into each other causes brain damage.
nick swardson
Any of that stuff jerks your neck and jerks your head and all that stuff.
joe rogan
Just the sheer impact.
What are you going to show me?
unidentified
This is the alternative.
nick swardson
They just started this weekend.
jamie vernon
This is like the pilot, what they're calling the American Flag Football League.
joe rogan
So there's like some former NFL players in this.
Why don't they just blow guys on the field?
I don't know if this is going to be interesting enough.
Get this off the air.
No.
That's not football.
nick swardson
That was depressing.
Why'd you show that?
joe rogan
You can't have that.
That guy knows while he's doing it.
nick swardson
Quick, put on figure skating.
Put on figure skating real quick.
joe rogan
We need to get something more manly.
nick swardson
Do you have any rhythmic gymnastics?
joe rogan
I like their helmets, or lack thereof, though.
I like that.
I think that's very smart.
nick swardson
What is that?
joe rogan
Those are rugby helmets.
Those are rugby helmets.
They're not really helmets.
They're headgear.
They more protect your ears.
They're probably going to help them if they hit the ground, maybe, I guess.
Maybe a little bit.
nick swardson
I would just wear earmuffs.
joe rogan
They used to have those things when I competed in the Taekwondo days.
The guys got knocked out, and one of the real horrible things was they got kicked in the head and knocked out.
They're usually out cold, and their head would bounce off the ground.
So depending upon where the fight was taking place, most of the time there was no surface.
We would fight on an actual basketball court.
There's a video of me fighting on an actual basketball court.
You can see the lines on the court.
It's solid wood.
And then you'd kick a guy, and they'd fall back, and their head would bounce off the wood.
And it was terrible.
Some people got knocked out, and it was horrible.
So they started making people wear...
First, it was a headgear that you could just wear on the back of your head.
Literally just to protect you when you get knocked out so that your head didn't bounce off.
And then some guys, they started making you, some guys voluntarily did it.
They started making you wear the bigger, all-inclusive helmet.
So it's a big foam protectant around your head.
nick swardson
Like the thing you buy at football games?
Like a foam?
joe rogan
No, it's like, you can find it, pull up Taekwondo headgear.
It's like your face is exposed, but like you have like these things that cover your ears and the foam all over the top of your head.
That's what it looks like.
That's exactly what it looks like.
There's an Adidas one.
So it's like you see how it's got the foam around the ears and the foam on the top of the head.
Your face is completely exposed and most...
I don't know what that one is.
That's not a type of window.
nick swardson
It's like a European Friday the 13th.
joe rogan
The one you had on is perfect.
That's a real Taekwondo mask, the white one.
Or that red one.
There's an Adidas one.
Yeah, so those are World Taekwondo Federation ones.
Some of the International Taekwondo Federation ones, those tournaments, a lot of them they did differently and they stuck old school a lot of times.
I remember they still had the...
The wood floors and there was no headgear.
But I think they probably change them as time goes on.
But those headgears were designed really mostly to protect you when you got knocked out from your head bouncing off the ground.
Then they started making people fight on pads too after a while.
They changed the flooring.
nick swardson
Yeah, I mean, pads is key.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick swardson
Don't fight on fucking hardwood.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I fought on a fucking cement hockey rink.
A hockey rink that didn't have any water in it.
They put a tarp down.
nick swardson
My God.
joe rogan
They put a tarp down and we fought on concrete.
It was horrible.
nick swardson
Why put the tarp down at that point?
joe rogan
I saw two people get knocked out, too.
And one dude who got knocked out, his eyebrow bounced off the concrete.
Like, you know, there was basically just, like, whatever the bottom of an ice skating rink would be.
It was for the Bay State Games, too.
It was a big tournament.
It was a big deal, because the Bay State Games is the Olympic Festival, and it was the first time, and I think only time, they ever had Taekwondo in it.
If I was gonna guess, I think I was 19, so it was like 86. So, uh, these guys, yeah, there's one.
unidentified
I just Googled Taekwondo tournament.
jamie vernon
There's all these kids on a hardwood floor right here.
joe rogan
See, this might be a tournament where they spar, or it might be a tournament where they, well, that looks like they have headgear on the ground, right?
They have forms, that little red thing.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are headgears.
nick swardson
What's the bar behind it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck that is.
nick swardson
Is that like a floaty for a pool?
joe rogan
I don't know what that is.
That might be a different kind of tournament.
It might be a point tournament.
nick swardson
I think it's floaty fighting.
It's a new sport that comes out.
Dildo whipping.
joe rogan
So, I was thinking about this this past weekend.
I was talking to somebody about that Brown Bunny movie.
We've talked about that movie before.
That's that Vincent Gallo movie where he actually got his dick sucked.
nick swardson
Was it with Chloe Sevigny?
joe rogan
Ooh, you said it perfect.
I've never said it right, ever.
nick swardson
I'm very theatrical, Joe.
You are, dude.
Sevigny.
unidentified
Sevigny.
joe rogan
Yeah, and we're talking about how that fucked his career, for sure.
And probably fucked her career for a few years, too, right?
nick swardson
Yeah, I mean, he was so promising to be like a lead gargoyle.
joe rogan
But he was a weird freaky dude.
nick swardson
Yeah, that guy was so fucking out there.
I mean, like, I had friends that were friends with him years ago, and they're like, this dude's just on another planet, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Of course.
I mean, he got his dick sucked in a movie, for real.
And he got his dick sucked by a movie star.
That's not just like getting your dick sucked.
nick swardson
I mean, she's had a really good career, though.
She's done a bunch of shit.
joe rogan
Since then?
nick swardson
Yeah, that was a while ago.
joe rogan
So she...
I don't know.
I'm out of the loop.
So what has she been in?
nick swardson
Fuck.
She's one of those chicks that pops up, and she was on an HBO show.
I think she was on Big Love.
joe rogan
I feel like I remember...
nick swardson
She was in a lot of good indie films.
joe rogan
But I feel like I remember there was some backlash to her in the beginning.
Am I wrong?
nick swardson
She was in Kids was her first thing.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
nick swardson
She was in a movie called Three Needles.
That sounds hilarious.
joe rogan
Dude, Kids is heavy.
nick swardson
Yeah, Shattered Glass is dope.
She's in Party Monster.
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
unidentified
Was she Jenny, the girl?
The main girl?
joe rogan
Jenny and Forrest Gump?
No, kids.
nick swardson
Jenny and Forrest Gump.
And Forrest Gump fucked her on camera.
joe rogan
I don't remember kids.
I just remember being in town.
nick swardson
Yeah, she was the chick that got AIDS? Yeah, yeah.
I think so, yeah.
jamie vernon
At the end, there's that scene where the dude fucks her while she's asleep.
She's like, don't worry, Jenny, it's just me, Casper.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And she's got AIDS, and the idea is she gave him AIDS. Yeah, yeah.
Joke's on you, screenwriters.
What was the dude's name?
nick swardson
Tully?
Tully.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he was in The Wire.
nick swardson
Yeah, everybody said that I looked like him when I was in high school.
joe rogan
I remember that.
nick swardson
I was like, great.
joe rogan
Click on that?
What year was that movie?
nick swardson
Yeah, she wasn't Boys Don't Cry, American Psycho.
She's done some shit, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, but when did all that stuff happen?
Like, when did the Brown Bunny movie happen?
I don't think it's 2000. No, you just back up.
It was right there.
nick swardson
Go back.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
There's the list, bro.
Right up there.
nick swardson
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
Okay.
So you look at that.
nick swardson
So she did an Academy Award winning movie, Boys Don't Cry.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick swardson
And then she's like, time to fuck.
joe rogan
No, it looks like time to fuck was before that, no?
nick swardson
No, Brown Bunny is fucking after Shattered Glass.
joe rogan
Where's Boys Don't Cry?
nick swardson
That's down there.
joe rogan
Oh, it goes lower.
I'm going the wrong way.
I was thinking the top was the more recent ones.
Wow.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a crazy choice.
So she's still done a bunch of stuff since Brown Bunny.
nick swardson
She did Zodiac.
She was on Will and Great.
Yeah, she was on Big Love.
Her agent must be so confused.
He's like, what do you want to do?
joe rogan
He had a real backlash, right?
Vincent Gallo?
Didn't he?
nick swardson
I mean, I think he's one of those self-imploding dudes.
I don't think he was ever really...
Like, he did Buffalo 66, which is actually a cool movie.
joe rogan
She never stopped working, so you go 2003, 2004, 2006. Yeah, this chick's been, like, killing it.
Yeah.
So, it didn't impact her negatively.
Maybe it did.
I don't know, but she still worked.
But, you don't really hear about that dude anymore.
And before that movie, he was like a, he was a big, he was in Buffalo 66, remember that?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a great fucking movie.
nick swardson
I just said that, Joe.
joe rogan
Did you say that?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm so sorry.
nick swardson
Are you in a dream state?
joe rogan
I was trying to remember.
I was trying to remember what we were just talking about.
nick swardson
Yeah, Buffalo 66 is cool.
Him and Ricci.
joe rogan
Dude, I didn't hear you say that.
I feel embarrassed.
I wasn't listening to you.
I'm doing the cardinal sin of conversation.
I was just struggling with my memory.
nick swardson
Dude, it's alright, man.
joe rogan
Ironically enough, after telling you about nootropics.
nick swardson
Yeah.
You might have to wear a helmet now.
joe rogan
I did yoga today.
Drained my brain.
I'm 15% stupider when I do yoga.
nick swardson
I want to get back and doing yoga.
15% stupider in what way?
joe rogan
For like four or five hours.
unidentified
After?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just wrecked.
Yeah, hot yoga.
My brain cooks.
My brain cooks.
nick swardson
I did that once, and then I was like, I'll try it.
My sister talked me into it.
And I was 15 minutes into it, and I thought we were done.
And I was like, alright.
And then I got up, and I'm like, we have to be done.
And the woman was like, no, we have another 45 minutes.
I'm like, well, you fucking do.
I just got out of there.
It was so intense.
I had done yoga a couple times.
I had gotten cocky.
I really liked yoga.
It kind of centered me and chilled me the fuck out.
And then I tried the hot shit, and it was just not cool, man.
It was too intense.
joe rogan
It's intense.
nick swardson
Like, you definitely...
I was dizzy and...
joe rogan
But you know what it is, dude?
It's not the best if you have to use your brain right afterwards.
For, like, a really solid, like, three or four hours.
But it is really good in terms of, like, overall.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Like, your overall, your health and the way you interface with the world.
You're way more chilled out if you do it a lot.
nick swardson
Yeah, but I mean, shit.
So, you did it and then just immediately got in your car and then drove away.
joe rogan
What else should I do?
Stay.
Put a tent up.
nick swardson
Start camping.
Start a plot of land.
joe rogan
Glump.
I should glump in that area.
Yeah, I took a shower.
Got the fuck out of there.
Got something to eat.
nick swardson
Did you shower?
joe rogan
I did.
Of course.
Got to.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think there's something really good for your body though, especially that hot one.
I think that 104 degrees and stretching out, I just think it makes you more pliable.
Definitely makes you more flexible.
Like when you're doing it, you can get into positions that you can't get into when you're cold.
So that means to me, like there's some sort of a benefit in being like really warm in terms of pliability of the muscle tissue.
nick swardson
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
100%.
nick swardson
That's not even a question.
I mean, it wouldn't be that popular if it weren't, it didn't have some kind of effect.
Even like, you know, it's like even like getting in any situation when you're cold and stretching or trying to do anything active, it just sucks.
joe rogan
Sucks, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't, you don't perform at your best when it's 80 below zero outside.
nick swardson
Yeah, like I got a massage the other day and it was freezing, the air conditioning on, and I stopped the guy and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, man?
And he was like, what?
joe rogan
Oh, did you try to get some?
nick swardson
No.
No, but I was like, what the fuck, man?
Like, turn this off.
joe rogan
A friend of mine, his girlfriend was a masseuse at one of those Burke Williams places or something like that.
It might not have been that place.
But it was like a high-end spa place.
And they had to let one of them dudes go because he was running a whole prostitution ring in there where guys would come in.
nick swardson
Really?
And it was like a name-brand place?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a legit place.
And he just developed clientele that knew that he would suck their dick.
He'd give you a massage and suck your dick.
Like, he just had the market cornered.
nick swardson
Jeez.
joe rogan
I guess it was a win-win.
He liked sucking dick, and he wanted to make some money for massages, so his books were full.
nick swardson
Fucking Ari.
Saving up for that land.
joe rogan
That land ain't gonna pay for itself.
nick swardson
That land ain't gonna suck itself.
Shit.
Yeah, so if I can just plug my show, Typical Rick Season 2, already cancelled.
I already told you that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you told me that.
nick swardson
I was just saying, speaking of Artie, and our glowing relationship with Comedy Central.
joe rogan
At least they gave it a shot.
How many episodes did I do before you cancelled it?
unidentified
We did two seasons, six episodes each.
nick swardson
Yeah, so you can still watch it, but it's not going further.
joe rogan
What, is it a surprise to you that they canceled it?
nick swardson
No.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
No.
nick swardson
We had a show that we wanted to do.
We wanted to bring you on to do something.
It was called Bro-Sassin.
And it was about a guy who's raised by an assassin.
And then the assassin dad feels bad that his son never had a real life.
He just grew up in an assassin environment in the jungle.
So he sends him to college and becomes the ultimate frat dude.
But he moonlights as an assassin still.
But he's still a frat guy during the day.
joe rogan
Oh, good.
nick swardson
And that was me and I would like sleep in the base like in the or in the attic and then I would be an assassin like on the down low at night But I was always too high or hungover or too drunk Wow and we wanted you to be one of the guys that would be a recurring assassin Dude, I'm in Comedy Central bought it in the room and I wrote the script everybody was like this is hilarious And they were like no and then just passed on it.
joe rogan
Whoa.
nick swardson
Yeah, I was like alright cool good talk Then I rewrote it for free and they're like yeah, we still don't want to do it.
I'm like, well, why'd you buy it?
They're like, I don't know.
I was like, cool.
See you guys later.
Good talk.
Hello, Netflix.
joe rogan
It's hard.
Hard being an executive.
Imagine some of the bad shows that come their way.
They probably get so confused.
You know, it's probably like bad cops.
Like, network executives, like, we get mad at them because they fuck shows up, or they put in their own input, or...
Do you imagine how many bad shows come their way?
How many just terrible ones?
Think about the ones that are on the air.
nick swardson
Yeah, but there's a...
joe rogan
And every day, they're like, ah, ah!
And they're thinking about getting their job fired.
The show's going to get cancelled.
People are going to lose money.
They're going to be out of a job.
They won't be able to pay their mortgage.
Like, fuck.
There's all this pressure on them.
Fuck.
And they're like, yeah, we'll buy it.
We'll buy it, Nick.
We love the show.
Well, I hate the show.
I hate it, too.
Okay, sorry, dude.
Can't have bro assassins.
These people are on Adderall.
They're all tweaking.
They're working 10, 12 hours a day.
And Adderall is a lot like meth, if you don't know that, folks.
One of the key things with people when they do meth is their shit at decision-making.
Their decision-making turns to shit.
Cut to headline.
Joe Rogan says, all network executives are doing meth.
nick swardson
I wish.
joe rogan
That's how it works.
nick swardson
At least a lot of them are on Adderall.
joe rogan
I have a buddy of mine who's a writer, and he told me everyone's on it.
I said, really?
He goes, yeah.
He goes, I just know, so many journalists are on it.
So many writers are on it.
They're all on Adderall.
nick swardson
Well, especially, I mean, in Los Angeles, just like, in terms of what I've seen socially out and about, I mean, holy shit, every chick is on Adderall.
It's like, fucking nuts.
I've never I've done it once and I was just shit-faced somebody gave me and of course I put it in my mouth and then I just I didn't really feel it but You know kind of made me a little bit more alert like kind of cokey, but it wasn't anything special But I have friends that they just they take it constantly.
joe rogan
Yeah, it depends.
I'm sure on the dosage.
I Depends on the person.
Depends on how you can handle it.
Maybe some people, it's super beneficial and they can actually handle it.
I'm not saying it's not.
I'm just saying, for sure, there's some abuse going on.
I know people that abuse.
nick swardson
Well, yeah, I mean, certain things are made for a certain purpose, you know what I mean?
Like, when you make a pill that helps people, like, focus in certain situations.
joe rogan
ADD folks.
nick swardson
Yeah, that's not what you fucking take at Coachella with, like, a bottle of fucking Fireball.
That's not why anybody made it.
They weren't like, yeah, this is a pill that you take at a music festival with Fireball.
joe rogan
And just screaming along.
nick swardson
Yeah, that's what it's for.
unidentified
The youth of the wild!
nick swardson
What's it called again?
joe rogan
We are the youth gone wild!
nick swardson
That's Skid Row.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Skid Row, right?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't it?
Yeah.
nick swardson
I tried to karaoke Skid Row once.
That was a fucking horrible mistake.
I tried to karaoke that song, I Will Remember You.
unidentified
I'll remember, remember yesterday.
nick swardson
And it fucking goes on for like six minutes.
And I had no larynx.
I was like crying blood.
It was horrible.
joe rogan
I drove by the hotel the other day where Janie Lane died.
Do you know Janie Lane, the lead singer of Warrant?
She's my cherry pie.
He died in the hotel.
Right over in Woodland Hills.
nick swardson
How'd he die?
joe rogan
Um, vegetables.
He ate too many vegetables.
nick swardson
No!
joe rogan
Dude, it was all salads in his house.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
His place was filled to the wall with salad.
nick swardson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
It's fucked up, man.
He got too healthy.
nick swardson
He got so healthy.
joe rogan
It's like when you drink too much water.
You ever heard of that?
People dying from drinking too much water?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like frat hazings and shit like that.
nick swardson
When they have water chugging contests.
joe rogan
Super bad, folks.
Do not do that.
You can get to a state where your body literally can't process all the water inside of it, and you die.
You can fucking D-I-E die from drinking just water.
nick swardson
How does it kill you?
It ruins your organs or your heart?
joe rogan
I do not know.
We should find that answer.
nick swardson
Do you drown?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Something happens.
Some sort of toxicity.
Some effect of the water.
I shouldn't say toxicity.
Sounds smart when you say toxicity.
It's like a good word to throw in if you're in the middle of words.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
We're dealing with a lot of issues and, you know, the random toxicity of the environment.
nick swardson
Comedy Central.
joe rogan
Are they gonna keep going with This Is Not Happening without Ari?
Is that the deal?
Is they gonna keep it on the air or it's just one season and that's it?
nick swardson
I don't know.
joe rogan
There's a fucking genius idea.
nick swardson
What?
joe rogan
To take him off that show.
nick swardson
Yeah, it's so fucking weird.
joe rogan
It's genius.
What?
nick swardson
Pull him off of his own show.
joe rogan
I wish we could talk about why it happened.
We can't.
I wonder if we can now that he's got a special on Netflix.
I have to ask permission.
But the story is ridiculous.
It's hard, man.
Like I said, hard being an executive, hard being what we call a content provider.
Nick, I believe you're a content provider.
What have you got to provide with Comedy Central?
nick swardson
But I mean, I'm just saying in general, I don't think it's that hard if you have talent that is proven that you trust.
Like, if I had a network and you brought me a show, that would, for me, that would be a 90% chance I would go to pilot for sure.
joe rogan
Okay, all I need is Nick to become an executive.
I'm figuring out my career path.
Okay.
I was playing the odds before.
They weren't 90-10.
It wasn't that good.
It was like, you know, 50-50.
So I like the odds.
So do you think you could maybe do that?
nick swardson
Just quit my...
joe rogan
For me?
nick swardson
Yeah, for you, Joe.
Come on, bro.
Yes.
I will sign up for Corporate America.
joe rogan
You're an executive, bro.
Could you imagine if you just decided, like, I don't like the shows you're picking.
I'm going to be one of you.
nick swardson
I've not not thought about doing that because I hear I have so many friends we all this we're all from the same talent pool of comedians and Writers and stuff where like everybody has stories where it's like yeah, I pitched this I'm like that's fucking hilarious like yeah It's fucking they were like no, I don't get it Well, why don't you just start doing shit on your own?
joe rogan
Because like this thing you did with Simon Rex in particular I feel like you guys could easily do that on your own and put it on YouTube and I bet it would be giant We could.
nick swardson
I mean, we're going to try to shop it around to a couple other networks.
joe rogan
But why get involved with other people?
nick swardson
Well, because we already have established content.
So we already have two seasons and it's already there.
So we just need somebody to go like, yeah, we get it.
joe rogan
Well, do you own it?
Like you can bring it somewhere else?
nick swardson
Yeah, because it's just through streaming.
Which, you know, Comedy Central was obviously cool enough to give us that.
And then all the executives got fired.
Except for one.
unidentified
Because of that?
nick swardson
Well, no, not because of that.
joe rogan
They found your deal.
They're like, what the fuck did you give him?
Jesus Christ, he's just gonna drink it away.
unidentified
Why'd you do that?
He's gonna go crazy.
joe rogan
He's gonna go on vacation.
nick swardson
Have you heard about his dreams?
He's a liability, man.
joe rogan
He's kind of crazy, man.
Yeah, man, you gotta do it yourself.
You know, it's not their fault, even.
It's like, counting on them to know what the fuck they're doing.
If they know what the fuck they're doing, would they really be a TV executive?
Who wants to do that?
How many people want to do that?
They might think they want to do it, but once you realize the stress involved, fuck all that, man.
nick swardson
It doesn't seem that complicated, though.
Really?
unidentified
Dude!
nick swardson
I don't think so.
I mean, if you have people that...
joe rogan
You can get lucky.
Someone could bring you Seinfeld and Friends and, you know, the, whatever.
Name some other show.
Bring some big-ass Frasier, some big-ass sitcom.
nick swardson
Cheers.
joe rogan
Cheers.
Perfect example.
And you look like a goddamn genius.
He's the guy who got cheers in the air.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
But you could have just got lucky.
They could have brought you the fucking Sex and the City or the Single Guy or a lot of sitcoms that everybody forgot.
They could have brought you a lot of bullshit.
nick swardson
Toilet, the musical.
joe rogan
There was a lot of bads.
Coach, you know?
Remember Coach?
nick swardson
I like Coach.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up, man.
nick swardson
What the fuck is wrong with you, man?
joe rogan
I had a bad experience.
nick swardson
Well, that's you.
Don't put that on Coach.
joe rogan
The guy was a writer for that show on a sitcom that I did.
It's like, whoa.
They just hacked it up.
Hacked it up.
Just swinging with the old double-edged broadsword.
Choo!
nick swardson
I would say, but that's a different conversation.
A network major, like in one of those main NBC, CBS, that's so arbitrary on what's going to be a hit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what they bring you, like, is your, I mean, obviously, I'm saying come out and get involved with talented people.
Yeah, for sure.
But even talented people occasionally create turds.
nick swardson
Of course.
joe rogan
Right, so if you're...
nick swardson
It's all a crapshoot, I'm not saying...
joe rogan
Fuck it is.
nick swardson
But I'm saying there's different levels of, like, what could...
What's got a better chance?
If you bring something with a vision, and you're passionate about it, I would go, okay, Joe is bringing me this impassioned idea that I think is funny, I'll give him a pilot.
joe rogan
The thing is about shows, this is the really hard part about shows, you're developing them while you're presenting them.
So, like, the show starts out, it's a new show, you're trying to develop the characters, you develop the way they interact with each other, while you're putting it on the air, like, creating it and putting it on the air.
Like, as time goes on, things get, like, you saw, like, Seinfeld, like, in the later years, or Friends is a perfect example.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Everybody knew the characters, everybody just flowed together, you knew, like, even though there were new scripts, like, the thing was so established, like, what was funny about it and how it worked...
When you're creating a new show, they're always, like, firing people.
Like, that Kevin James show.
Like, they change out, they'll swap out the wife, and, like, they did it on Bewitched, get her out, bring a new one in, and if you need a black neighbor, like, okay, you need a gay friend.
Right.
You know, when it's not working, everybody wants to throw their fucking jizz into the soup mix, like, I know the fucking perfect thing, this is missing.
And that's what happens with those shows, right?
They all just get to be...
unidentified
Jizz souped.
joe rogan
They just get all these different opinions until they take out, like South Park.
They don't listen to shit.
nick swardson
They don't listen to anything, but that's my point, is that if you comment...
Major networks is different.
Like, the cable networks, they have a little bit more leeway, where it's like, you know, if somebody comes in with...
If talent comes in with a strong idea and a strong script and a strong vision and stuff like that, I think that's different.
With networks, you're getting a bunch of major showrunners with an idea and they're trying to fit into a formula.
That's different.
joe rogan
It's still hard.
nick swardson
It's still hard, but I'm just saying there's different percentages of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, for sure.
nick swardson
I mean, South Park came in and they were like, I mean, I remember stories where they were like, they didn't get any notes.
They were like, they don't even live here, I don't think.
I think they live in Colorado or something.
They were just like, yeah, well, we're gonna make this show and just, like, stay the fuck away.
joe rogan
That's probably a good move.
I think they're from Evergreen.
It's like one of my favorite places ever.
Did you ever see the original one with What Would Brian Boitano Do?
nick swardson
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
That is, that's how they got started, and that is to this day like one of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen in my life.
When someone gave it to me, it was actually a girl I was dating.
She was an agent's assistant, and she got a VHS copy of it, and she brought it over my house, and we watched together, and we were fucking crying, just falling on the ground crying.
It was so silly.
nick swardson
And Jesus versus Santa.
joe rogan
Yes!
nick swardson
Yeah, that was insane.
I did the same thing.
I got the VHS tape in like 1996, I want to say.
joe rogan
That's exactly when, that's the time, somewhere around there.
nick swardson
And I had that VHS and I would watch it and I was like, what?
This is insane.
joe rogan
God, it was amazing.
nick swardson
It was so good.
joe rogan
And it's kind of funny because it's like much more shitty animation and drawing, even in the current one, which is crazy hard to believe.
You know, you watch it, it's like, you're watching like ancient...
josh olin
Like ancient cave art of Jesus or something.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
It's weird when you're seeing this old way they used to draw everybody in comparison to the new...
nick swardson
The voices are so good.
joe rogan
Oh, he's amazing.
nick swardson
Yeah, they're genius.
Those guys are amazing.
joe rogan
Trey Parker did the voice in this new...
What was the fucking animated show that I watched?
He did the voice of someone...
nick swardson
And then a Despicable Me.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
Despicable Me.
Did he really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw it with my kids.
It's hilarious.
Those Despicable Me shows...
nick swardson
They're all really good.
joe rogan
Even if you're a full-grown adult, they are fucking fun movies.
Like, my kids love them, but I actually love them.
They're fun.
Those movies are good, man.
nick swardson
You saw the third one?
joe rogan
I saw them all.
nick swardson
I saw the first two.
unidentified
I've seen them multiple times.
joe rogan
I have kids, bro.
I've seen them multiple times.
nick swardson
How old are your kids now?
joe rogan
I saw Underwear Man.
nick swardson
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, Captain Underpants or something like that, I think it was.
nick swardson
Underwear Man.
joe rogan
There's a show called Captain Underpants.
Yeah.
They made a movie out of it.
nick swardson
I'm probably not going to see that by myself.
That'd be super weird.
Some guy just watching Captain Underpants.
joe rogan
They make good fucking kids movies today.
Those Despicable Me movies are good movies.
nick swardson
Yeah, they're really well made.
The third one holds up.
joe rogan
Third one holds up.
nick swardson
Alright!
joe rogan
Might be the strongest one.
A lot of people don't like the minions one.
They're like, I'm tired of those little fuckers.
Like, they need the other guy, Gru, to balance out the minions.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can't just have the minions.
nick swardson
Minions went rogue.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just all minions.
nick swardson
Cocky fucking assholes.
joe rogan
People didn't like it.
I found it.
I think it was good.
I enjoyed it.
I found it entertaining.
nick swardson
Fuck them.
Fuck the minions.
Well, like Toy Story, dude.
Toy Story 3 was like one of the best movies I've ever seen.
I started crying.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was good.
nick swardson
Yeah, I wept.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's like some dark moments when the teddy bear is trying to fucking throw them into the incinerator.
nick swardson
Yeah, that was intense.
joe rogan
That's intense shit.
Lots of bear, lots of hugging bear.
nick swardson
I like that.
Did you ever see Babe, the Talking Pig movie?
unidentified
Yes.
nick swardson
Did you ever see Babe, Pig in the City, part two?
joe rogan
I don't think I'd suck around for that.
nick swardson
Oh my god!
See that movie.
They decided to take the Talking Pig, like, broad farm movie, throw him in the city, where some of the dogs are prostitutes...
It goes so fucking rogue.
It's amazing.
unidentified
Really?
nick swardson
You'll love it.
unidentified
Really?
nick swardson
I'll text you and remind you.
joe rogan
Oh my god, please do.
nick swardson
Babe pig in the city.
And there was a big outrage because it was so, like, aggressive and weird.
unidentified
Really?
nick swardson
It's super dark and trippy.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Babe pig.
They're prostitute dogs?
nick swardson
I swear to god.
Yeah, it's nuts.
Look at that.
That's one of the hooker dogs.
Oh my god.
In the pink.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
nick swardson
Look at that harlot.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
How weird are dogs, man?
They used to be wolves.
nick swardson
They scare the shit out of me.
joe rogan
You figured out a way to turn them into that and have them live with us?
I think about that when I'm around my dog.
I got a new dog recently, seven months old now.
I got him a few months back and he's a golden retriever.
nick swardson
Okay.
joe rogan
It is the least wolf-like dog that has ever existed on the planet.
This dog has like zero aggression in him.
Like even when he play fights, Like a play fight with another dog, there's like zero threat of anybody getting hurt.
It's like there's the mellowest, calmest, and you gotta think like somehow or another people figured out how to take a wolf and slowly whittle it down until you make that.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Like, what?
nick swardson
What was he eating?
They probably gave him some weird fucking shit to mess with his brain.
joe rogan
No, it's just breeding.
They figured out a way.
I mean, I think that life is crazy pliable.
And where you have the best chance of success, I mean, obviously this is not my theory, but where life has the best chance of success, it kind of molds itself to that.
Whether it's by putting people in colder climates, making their skin lighter so they get more vitamin D because there's no sun out.
nick swardson
So you're saying it's atmosphere related?
joe rogan
It could be, yeah, and the atmosphere of a dog is, the only way a dog got food, it had to be super cool with people.
So the dogs that were cool with people are the ones that stuck around, and they kept breeding and breeding, and the ones that are the coolest with the people are the ones that got fed, and the other ones got shot and killed, They didn't get the breed.
So it's always like the ones that are the coolest with the people.
They got closer and closer to the campfire, and they got the scraps thrown their way.
It was a sweet deal.
You bark, and they're cool with you, and they give you free food.
And you keep the fucking wolves and the bears from eating them.
And you bark, bark, bark when anything comes, and they can be alert.
That was the whole deal with people and wolves and dogs.
And so they figured out a way over countless generations to turn that wolf into this fucking dog, like into a poodle.
Like, they figured out how to do that.
I mean, it's just, life adapts.
It finds some weird ways through, and next thing you know, you're holding a French bulldog.
Like, what the fuck?
That used to be a wolf?
Like, a wolf got whittled down to it.
I mean, no disrespect to French bulldogs.
They're adorable.
I love those little dogs.
But it's like, how the fuck did that even happen?
nick swardson
Yeah, you never see, like, stone, like, cave drawings of poodles.
joe rogan
They didn't exist.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It literally didn't exist.
nick swardson
With, like, perfect pom-pom, like, ankles and shit.
joe rogan
You know what they found out about dogs that's really fucked up is that all of them came from wolves.
They thought there was, like, that, like, dogs came from, like, a bunch of different wild canids, you know, a bunch of different, like, African dogs and different dogs.
Nope.
Nope.
All of them came from wolves.
All of them.
nick swardson
That's super weird.
joe rogan
Dude!
nick swardson
Well, then a wolf, like, fucked a frog or something, because there's no way a fucking bulldog just comes from a wolf.
joe rogan
It does.
Slowly but surely, over thousands of years, they turn a wolf into a bulldog.
It's nuts.
nick swardson
Are we gonna go back to wolves, do you think?
joe rogan
We could turn it to jello, for sure.
We could turn it to some cube-like thing that sits in a hard form that we carry around.
If people found out, hey man, you can't break your bones if you don't have any, you can move things telekinetically now and everyone's gonna fit into this fucking cube, and we just would be this square thing with no bones, just slops right into this...
Just indestructible plastic barrier that you can carry around in life until you wanted to fuck.
And then when you wanted to fuck, you guys would get close to the bed and then you would just ooze out on top of each other.
You would like open your doors together and just ooze on top of each other.
nick swardson
That's my entire family in Arkansas that you just described.
joe rogan
Did they do that?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it pills?
nick swardson
It's everything.
joe rogan
Pills got them.
nick swardson
Skittles.
Dogs scare me because a dog bit my balls when I was a kid.
I was playing wiffle ball in my front yard, and I'll never forget it, and I rounded third, and a dog lashed out and punctured my scrotum.
And I ran into the house, and I pulled my pants down, and my mom started screaming.
So dogs have always, to this day, every time I walk past a dog, I'm horrified.
unidentified
Dude.
nick swardson
Yeah, not cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, that ain't cool.
nick swardson
Maybe I will be a jello guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
nick swardson
No balls to worry about.
joe rogan
It's a better path than getting bit in the nuts by a dog.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you have no organs, okay?
Nothing can break down.
You're just a giant hive of tissue.
And everything now is a dream.
But it's a dream that you can control.
They've gotten to the point where you don't need a physical structure.
You don't need skulls and organs and livers.
All that stuff is handled...
Exogenously.
They bring in things.
They bring in like these connections, these tubes that link up to you.
And then slowly our bodies devolve to the point where we don't have organs anymore.
We rely on all our organ functions to be handled outside of the body by machines because it's way more efficient and allows you to stay in the dream state and control your life.
nick swardson
Do you have eyes?
joe rogan
No, dude.
There's no need.
You see way better in the dream state.
You have a mass of cells that somehow or another contains consciousness that interfaces with the dream state 24-7.
nick swardson
Can I wear a hat?
joe rogan
You can, but it doesn't matter.
You don't have a head.
It's like a hat on a table.
nick swardson
Can I be a jello shot?
joe rogan
You can, but, you know, there's not a lot of juice there.
You want to be a big, fat tube, like a garbage dumpster filled with cells.
The more cells, maybe you have the more horsepower in the dream dimension.
nick swardson
Right, that's hot.
joe rogan
That makes sense, right?
nick swardson
Yeah, obviously.
joe rogan
Well, we're definitely devolving, right?
If you look at other primates, like primitive primates, you'll get orangutans and gorillas, and they would fuck us up.
We're so weak compared to them, right?
So we're obviously the weakest by far of all the primates, other than little tiny monkeys.
nick swardson
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
So, by far, our bodies have gotten weaker and doughier and less capable, and, like, our tendons are not the same.
They're so much stronger than us.
So there's something that's happening to our body where it's getting, like, smoother and softer and weaker.
nick swardson
And they have a plant-based diet, which is even crazier.
joe rogan
Gorillas do.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Chimps eat the fuck out of everything, though.
They're more closer to us.
nick swardson
They're horrifying.
Remember that story about the guy who brought his chimp a birthday cake?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
nick swardson
And the monkey attacked him and then bit his nose off his fingers and ripped his penis off?
joe rogan
Yeah, bit his fingers off.
nick swardson
Bit his fingers off and his nose.
joe rogan
You know the story?
Yeah, they tore his face apart.
He was jealous.
The chimp that attacked him was jealous because he brought a birthday cake to a chimp that used to be his.
See, the chimp used to be his, and it was the worst...
Is that it?
Is that the story?
The chimp used to be his, and he brought the chimp to a sanctuary when it got older, because as they get older, they get super sketchy.
They start biting people's fingers off and shit.
nick swardson
They're not as docile.
joe rogan
No, they get super aggressive.
And the consequences of them being aggressive are so ferocious.
Don't show me any pictures, please.
I don't even want to see it.
Yeah, it's horrible.
He had to give up the chimp, but the chimp loved him still.
So he'd go visit him on his birthday and he brought him a cake.
Well, the other chimps saw that they didn't get a cake.
And someone fucked up and left some doors open.
And the chimps opened the doors and just fucked him up because he didn't give him a cake.
That's all it was.
Because he didn't give him a cake.
They tore his fingers off.
They tore his dick off.
Just because they didn't give him a cake.
nick swardson
Was it the idea?
Was it because of the cake or was it the fire?
joe rogan
No, fairness.
No, no, no.
It was a fairness issue.
They were jealous that he gave the cake to the one chimp and they didn't get any cake.
And they were fucking furious.
And you're also dealing with these chimps that are contained in this artificial environment.
They don't need freedom.
nick swardson
They want to lash out anyway.
joe rogan
And they directly associate people with being their captors.
You know, the people are the ones that keep them in there.
The people are the ones that feed them.
The people are the ones that control them.
And then if they can get out and fuck up the person that doesn't give them a birthday cake...
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, the worst aspects of people magnified times a hundred.
Like, you could see it right in front of us.
Like, yeah, this is what we used to be.
This is how we got to 2017. You had to be fucking ferocious.
You couldn't be like, hey man, I'm just here to be, like, one with the animals.
Back in the days of, like, living with jaguars and shit, you had to be ferocious.
nick swardson
You had to.
joe rogan
You had to.
nick swardson
Literally, yeah, it was live or die.
joe rogan
So when we think of like what we're becoming, we're obviously becoming more passive, we're becoming more better able to deal with interacting with each other without violence, and that all that stuff makes us mushier.
All of it is just making us more...
It's not even weak, it's just like physically not attuned to violence.
Right?
So if we're physically not attuned, why do we need all the strength?
Like, why do you need to be so fast if nothing's trying to kill you?
You don't.
You sit in a cubicle all day.
So everything just starts to...
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Just like a bulldog.
Their face, somehow they're figuring out how to make their face...
All flat.
Our whole body's gonna do that, man.
We're gonna just flatten out.
nick swardson
So hot.
joe rogan
And then our bodies are gonna absorb the bones.
Once we start, like, encasing ourselves...
nick swardson
Let me go back to the jello people.
joe rogan
Yeah, you realize you don't even need food.
You work like a plant.
You have this box that contains you and it uses photosynthesis.
nick swardson
Osmosis?
joe rogan
To fuel your cells.
Not like water and shit, just like soil.
You need some soil.
You're gonna put some soil below you.
You're gonna be a plant.
You're gonna go back to plants.
nick swardson
Fuck.
joe rogan
Plants in the matrix.
nick swardson
Like in a week?
joe rogan
No, it'll take a while.
nick swardson
Alright, good.
joe rogan
A hundred million years or so will definitely be like some sort of a gigantic organism connected to some, probably, some natural internet.
You know what they'll do with their figure?
They'll get to a point where they're like, you know what, this regular internet is too unreliable.
We're constantly relying on these cables.
I have a new idea.
Here's my new idea.
We are going to make an internet by going into all these plants and genetically engineering them and turning them into Wi-Fi towers.
So everything is a Wi-Fi tower.
And this is the new internet.
They're all connected with each other and you, through using a computer or a cell phone or whatever, you're interfacing with nature now.
You're no longer interfacing with some artificial servers and the Verizon, you know, fucking throttling your data because they don't like using Netflix.
No, no, no, no, no.
Now you're dealing with re-engineered plants, where plants are now the distributors of information.
nick swardson
I can't process that.
joe rogan
It's heavy, bro.
But it might be real.
I mean, they know that plants talk to each other.
They're 100% certain of that.
Plants allocate resources.
They have this whole underlying, like, there's like a whole, almost like an internet, of mycelium and, like, fungus and all this different shit, all the network of their root system and everything like that, they communicate with each other.
nick swardson
About what?
joe rogan
We don't know.
We know they do certain things like...
Plants hear other plants getting eaten and they change their flavor profile and they become toxic.
They have like a terrible toxic taste to them.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Giraffes do that.
Not only is it...
It works...
Not giraffes.
Eucalyptus trees do that when giraffes are eating them.
And a bunch of different trees, they've shown that when you...
Not only can they...
This is a crazy study they did.
Not only is it not knowing for sure that these plants are being eaten, but if they hear it.
So they played recordings.
nick swardson
Of like crunching?
joe rogan
Recordings of caterpillars eating leaves, and they've played it next to these trees, and the trees altered their profile.
They start excreting some sort of a chemical that makes their leaves taste terrible.
So what they found is like if it'll happen in Africa, where one plant will be...
I think it's the acacia tree.
That's what it is.
It is, right?
I'm pretty sure.
I think it's the acacia one that changes.
It's not eucalyptus.
It's the acacia tree.
And one animal will be eating it.
josh olin
The other animals catch wind that something's eating it.
joe rogan
And they literally become toxic to them.
They taste like shit.
And so they won't eat it.
And they'll starve to death rather than eat the plants.
Some crazy chemical strategy.
And they communicate with each other.
That's how they find out that this other plant is getting eaten.
It goes through the ground.
They have this fiber of...
Oh, Jesus.
It goes through the ground.
They have this fiber of all these different organic things like fungus and mushrooms and shit that they're communicating with.
nick swardson
Good lord.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
nick swardson
That is amazing.
To think that you just don't even hear it.
joe rogan
They allocate resources.
They figure out a way to allocate resources towards plants that are connected to them that are more needy.
It's very bizarre.
We totally don't know why they do it.
I mean, we don't know how they do it.
It's all some new thing over the last like 20 years that people are beginning to figure out.
That these plants are somehow or another interacting with each other and maybe interacting with their environment in a way that we just don't understand yet.
It's fucking weird, man.
I mean, they might be conscious in just some way we just don't imagine.
We can't imagine it.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
But there might be some sort of a, you know, we think of consciousness as like, hey man, I'm gonna go to the store tonight, do a set.
You know, hey man, you know, I'm gonna go take my girl to the movies.
That fucking Planet of the Apes thing looks sweet.
You know, that's what we think of as consciousness.
nick swardson
Every day I do that.
joe rogan
But without language, and whatever the fuck plants use for communicating, it might be some sort of a weird language that they have, but that we don't even perceive.
nick swardson
But we could even classify that as language?
joe rogan
Could be.
We don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just guessing.
I'm talking shit while I'm high, bro.
nick swardson
Right.
I'm asking questions because I... I just- If we could figure out- I want to have a more plant-based diet, but I don't want motherfuckers whispering and shit.
Yeah, like- Don't eat!
joe rogan
Careless whispers in your cauliflower.
unidentified
Nick just ate Mark.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Somebody.
joe rogan
But maybe they like you to eat them.
Because if they didn't like you to eat them, how come when you shit out their seeds, that's how plants get distributed?
nick swardson
Well, yeah, also, how do they know what tastes like shit to us?
If they're altering how it tastes...
joe rogan
Exactly.
They're trying to get us to eat it, and then swallow the pits.
nick swardson
Maybe they're trying to make it better for us to eat them.
Maybe they're like, oh, maybe, oh, he's eating Mark.
Maybe I'll fucking create a new spice, and maybe it'll be better, and he'll eat me faster or some shit.
joe rogan
Hence, peaches.
Why are peaches so delicious?
They're trying to trick you into eating them, so you shit out one of those pits.
If you get some nice nutritious shit, and especially if you've been eating nothing but peaches, your shit would probably be fucking primo for growing a peach.
nick swardson
Just ready for an S&M dungeon.
joe rogan
You're out there in the woods, you take a massive dump with a bunch of peach pits in it, and they fertilize, and then a new peach tree grows, and this one's even better.
It talks you into deep, slowly, just like a wolf becoming a French bulldog, the peaches become sweeter and sweeter and sweeter, and then even we get in the mix.
Like, you know what?
This whole peach sweetening shit just ain't happening fast enough for me.
Me and my boys, Monsanto, we brought scalpels and laser beams and birth control pills and we're gonna figure out how to get these fucking peaches super sweet and they last for a year.
Right?
nick swardson
Yeah, but what if you take a shit and the tree grows and it's not peaches and it's growing shit.
joe rogan
It's growing shit.
nick swardson
It's just a shit tree.
joe rogan
And you can't hack it down.
nick swardson
That's what ends up happening.
You chop it down.
The peaches get so sweet that they turn into shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
nick swardson
That's the world I want to live in.
joe rogan
It's like you fix it until you break it.
nick swardson
Exactly.
joe rogan
You fucked up.
You tried too sweet.
You tried to get the peaches too sweet and you got to the point where nature rebelled.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
See, that's the argument for diseases, right?
The reason why there's so many diseases for human beings is that there's just too many of us.
And nature's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You can't just have seven billion of one thing.
This is fucking stupid.
We've got to kill some of these things.
No, we've got to figure out a way.
No, we've got, like, plague and all these different things.
We're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We've got injections.
We're going to kill all that.
And then we're going to keep, like, battling it one step ahead.
Diseases and scientists are going to war every day on the front lines.
nick swardson
I mean...
joe rogan
That's what's going on, dude.
Nature's trying to jack us.
nick swardson
You think nature's trying to pull...
They're pulling the plug on us?
joe rogan
When was the last time your dog got sick?
nick swardson
I don't have a dog.
joe rogan
If you have a dog, here's what you do.
You give your dog a parvo shot, they get distemper, they get rabies, and they're good.
They go around eating everything they find.
nick swardson
Licking everything.
joe rogan
Licking everything, pissing on everything.
What percentage of dogs get sick?
Is it even one?
unidentified
Well, I've had friends who have had dogs that get cancer and shit.
joe rogan
Right, right.
That can happen.
But, like, dogs getting cold?
When does your dog get sick?
Your dog starts sneezing?
Your dog ever get a cold?
Get the fuck out of here.
nick swardson
Dogs don't get cold.
I don't have a dog.
joe rogan
But if you did...
nick swardson
Wait, I mean, I've never heard of a dog getting, like, a sinus infection.
joe rogan
They happen.
They happen with those bulldogs, for sure.
They get all fucked up, because their nose is only, like, a half an inch long.
nick swardson
Well, they have upper respiratory, like, horrible problems.
I have friends that are bulldogs, and they said it's a fucking nightmare.
joe rogan
Yeah, one of my dogs is half bulldog.
He's half bulldog and half shibu-inu.
So he's got, like, a little bit of a longer face.
nick swardson
What is that?
A Star Wars character?
joe rogan
What is a shibu-inu?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a dog.
nick swardson
Okay.
joe rogan
You son of a bitch.
nick swardson
You fucking made that up.
joe rogan
I didn't.
It's a cunty little furry dog.
They're a little on the aggressive side.
You know, get a little cunty.
nick swardson
So your dog's half cunty?
joe rogan
Half cunty, half wants naps.
Just wants a nap.
But he gets cunty with other dogs.
He bit my puppy in the face.
unidentified
It's pretty fucked up.
nick swardson
Oh!
Is that your dog?
joe rogan
No, that's not my dog.
But my other dog, the biggest dog I have is the most chill.
He doesn't fuck with anybody.
nick swardson
What the fuck dog was that?
Why did it not have eyeballs?
joe rogan
It did have eyeballs.
Do you need glasses?
nick swardson
Just pull that picture up.
joe rogan
Aw, look at that little cutie.
That's why I got him, because he looked like that when he was a baby.
nick swardson
That's what your dog looks like?
joe rogan
A little bit, but he's got a little more bulldog to him.
nick swardson
God, look at their eyes.
joe rogan
But the thing about dogs, man, is just they vary so much personality-wise.
It's a trip.
You could have three dogs from the same litter, and one of them is just a totally different kind of dog than the other ones.
Like, when they get dogs for police dog training, they never know, like, what dog's gonna...
Like, how they're gonna come out.
Like, you look for a specific type of behavior, but you don't know why.
There's, like, good bloodlines and everything like that, but out of a litter, they're not...
It's not 100% even in a good bloodline.
nick swardson
But they're normally...
What kind of...
Like, police dogs are never, like...
They're specific, aren't they like German Shepherds or what are they?
joe rogan
They have a bunch of different dogs they use.
Belgian Malinois are really good, but those are super hard to control.
nick swardson
Golden Doodles?
joe rogan
They're really good attack dogs.
They're really good attack dogs, like the sick on people.
They're like very effective because they're super hyper aggressive and they'll just go right for your throat and fuck you up.
They use those a lot in military, what they would call the military theater.
unidentified
Oh.
nick swardson
I like that.
joe rogan
Is that what they say?
Don't they say that?
Military theater?
Don't they say that?
nick swardson
Starring Chloe Sevigny?
joe rogan
That's like a way to sound smarter than you really are.
If you said, using something in the military theater.
Like, what kind of an asshole says that?
Military theater.
nick swardson
I think if you add theater to anything, you sound like you're smart.
Like if you're with the diarrhea theater?
joe rogan
We're going to the theater.
Yeah, if they like had musicals and they did them in basketball courts, they'd make two dollars.
No, we'd go see a musical in a basketball court.
You have to go to that theater.
You have to dress up.
If you could see it how it really is, sneakers squeaking on aluminum steps, and these people have no microphone, and they're below you, doing their stupid play.
nick swardson
Yeah, that'd be shit.
joe rogan
I'd be like, get the fuck out of here, bitch.
nick swardson
Theater.
joe rogan
Went to this new musical at the gymnasium.
It was terrible.
Everyone started throwing toilet paper down on them.
unidentified
You go to the theater, you're like, this place is old, this must rule.
nick swardson
I've got a new suit for the gym.
Yeah, nobody's ever said that.
joe rogan
Going to the theater.
Some of the theaters that you perform in, when you start performing in theaters across the country, you'll perform in a place that was founded in like 1920. All these weird backstages, you gotta walk through and everything.
It's fucking pretty dope.
nick swardson
What I was gonna say earlier is we were talking about Florida, and I did my last tour, and I did 55 cities.
Everything was great.
And the only train wreck shows were Florida.
And I did a performance arts center.
And it was in, I believe, Orlando, I'm gonna say.
And I showed up and they had...
I went backstage and they had these huge murals for, like, Wicked and The Lion King and all these huge productions.
And then there was, like, Nick Swartzen.
And then, uh...
So I was like, alright, I did the show.
I mean, I had to stop the show because two chicks got into a fistfight.
joe rogan
Oh!
nick swardson
Of course.
joe rogan
Over what?
nick swardson
I don't...
No idea.
It was in the balcony and I was, like, trying to figure out what was happening, but I couldn't...
Because they were escorted out.
And then afterwards they were like, yeah, there's a fight.
And then a bunch of people, there's vomit all over the bathrooms.
So then I went out to the staff and was like, what happened?
And all the staff were these old women that were like used to plays and musicals and weren't ready for the Nick Swartzen fucking tornado to come in.
So all these, like, 80-year-old women were not equipped for, like, they said people were sleeping in the bathroom, there was puke on the floor, there was a fist fight.
That is hilarious.
It was pretty funny.
I was like, yeah, sorry about that.
unidentified
Next week, though, we've got Wicked!
Next week, it's a resurgence of Cats being brought back by popular demand.
joe rogan
Is Cats being played anywhere across the country?
Because I know it's not on Broadway anymore.
nick swardson
I don't know.
Actually, I asked that same question.
It's not on Broadway at all?
joe rogan
I have a bad...
Bad opinion of musicals, and a lot of it is based on a girl that I dated when I was 18 who made me go to see cats with her.
When you're 18, you don't have any fucking patience for anything.
nick swardson
Well, yeah, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Definitely don't have any patience for- 18 years on a musical?
Yeah, people that are dressing up.
It is playing somewhere.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Where is it playing?
Back on Broadway, apparently.
unidentified
Andrew Lloyd Webber's long-running classic is back on Broadway!
joe rogan
Exclamation point.
nick swardson
I mean, yeah, that's what I didn't say from Caroline's, remember?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't mean to diss it.
Last time I saw it was 30 fucking years ago.
32 years ago almost.
nick swardson
Well, there's still cats.
unidentified
Amazing.
nick swardson
They've not evolved.
joe rogan
I feel like I need to go now.
nick swardson
Let's go.
I'll go with you.
joe rogan
We should go blasted.
Like seven stars of death deep.
And we should eat first.
Like, have a...
Take the stars of death, like, full on.
Take five stars of death and then have a steak.
So this is my thought process.
You're sitting in a restaurant, like, right after you order, you go, alright, let's do this.
unidentified
You...
joe rogan
You dump the stars of death down your system, and then the food starts coming.
So the food piles on, your body has to struggle to digest the star and all the fat from your food, like steak and mashed potatoes, if you're feeling non-keto.
And as it gets cooking, like right when these dudes start...
You're just in a cyclone of fear and self-doubt and self-criticism and introspective thinking and feeling vulnerable about everyone's watching you and you know you're gonna die and everyone's gonna die.
nick swardson
And then to top it off though, we bring a litter box.
And so we all defecate into the litter box.
And then when they get mad at us, we're like, it's fucking, we're around cats.
joe rogan
Dude.
nick swardson
This is perfect.
joe rogan
I was in Pittsburgh.
And, uh, I showed up for UFC in Pittsburgh at the same time when they had a furries convention.
nick swardson
Oh, no way.
joe rogan
Just total dumb luck.
nick swardson
Did you go?
I would've gone to that.
joe rogan
I couldn't.
I had to work.
nick swardson
Cancel the show!
joe rogan
I can't.
I had a show, and then I had a UFC. Like, I was there for both.
And I had the UFC weigh-ins, so I had the weigh-ins on Friday, and then I had the show right after.
I didn't want to go anyway.
I just wanted to, like, you could see enough just by seeing them interact in the streets.
But as you're driving down the street, you could see fucking dozens and dozens of people in these furry outfits.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Dozens.
I mean, everywhere you looked.
You saw, like, these mascots, like squirrels, fucking people that are dressed up like monkeys.
Look at that.
Foxes and shit.
nick swardson
And they fuck each other, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they do.
Well, here's the thing.
nick swardson
So you know that anybody wearing that is fucking something.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you know, like, you might, like, try to fuck a female fox, and you pull down the pants, and it's a hairy dude butt, and you're like, well, goddammit.
nick swardson
I'm already here.
joe rogan
I'm not really ready for this, but, like, look how they're all walking around, and they get together of them.
There's photos of thousands of them together.
Just thousands.
And people love it.
nick swardson
God, it's gotta be so hot.
But do they fuck, yeah, like in that outfit?
I mean, I've worn costumes like that, just on like sketches and shit.
joe rogan
Okay, but what is going on here in this picture?
This is so strange.
nick swardson
They're courting each other.
joe rogan
They're holding hands and staring at each other's eyes like, you know what this is?
It's like you saw cartoons when you were a little kid and they just fucked your brain up.
You're like, well, this is what I'm looking forward to when I get out of this house.
And you get out of the house, you hear, car accidents, gunshots.
Rape.
nick swardson
But do they fuck each other while they're both wearing a costume, or do they fuck people that aren't wearing a costume?
joe rogan
Apparently, and this is...
I'm sorry if you're a member of the furry community, and I misrepresent you, but some of them have hatches where their asshole is sort of like those old-school pajamas in those Wild West cartoons.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember the Wild West pajamas where they had, like, Popeye always had those.
nick swardson
Dookie Flap?
joe rogan
Yeah, you got two buttons that cover your shitter.
Like the shit trap and you open up the trap door and drop a bomb in there and then button that fucker back up.
They probably had drawstrings.
They probably didn't even have like rubber waistbands back then.
Right?
nick swardson
No, they had those big buttons on either side.
joe rogan
How did they tighten down your underwear back then?
Was it buttons?
That makes sense.
They probably had buttons in the front and buttons in the shitter.
nick swardson
I think they had buttons on everything back then.
joe rogan
So, these kids, they thought that was the future.
And then they went out there and they got punched in the face the moment they left their house.
And then probably somebody did terrible things to them and they went to school and they got picked on and then here they are just wishing they were a squirrel.
I want to be a squirrel, just like in the cartoon.
unidentified
That was my favorite thought when I was young and I'd watch the squirrel cartoon.
joe rogan
I'd be like, I want to be a squirrel.
I don't want to go to school.
I don't want to do this anymore.
I just want to be a squirrel.
Well, the hotel where we were at, they got a request.
They're filled up with furries, except me and a few of the other UFC staff.
I'm not lying.
nick swardson
It's amazing.
joe rogan
And they got a request, and the request was the furries asked if they could put a litter box in the lobby.
nick swardson
No way!
Yes.
joe rogan
They wanted to pay for a litter box to be brought into the lobby.
They're like, this whole convention is all us, so can we do that?
And the guy's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
nick swardson
They took my idea for cats.
joe rogan
They tried to get a litter box and put it in the front lobby of, like, the Westin in Pittsburgh.
nick swardson
To make Smellian?
joe rogan
Apparently.
I mean, it could have all just been, just...
They could have been, like, bluffing.
nick swardson
Come on, man!
joe rogan
Well, they definitely were asking for food to be delivered in bowls on the ground.
Whatever they ordered, they wanted to put it in a bowl, like a dog food bowl, and eat it on the ground.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
There were several different rooms that were requesting this.
nick swardson
That I can see, though, if you're gonna go that distance.
joe rogan
But if you're that broken...
nick swardson
You're not taking a shit in the fucking lobby, alright?
joe rogan
Come on, dog.
You never know until you ask.
You don't know until you ask.
I think it's all us.
It's all us here.
It's just all us.
We're amongst friends.
We'll pay them.
Why don't we just ask?
Let's just ask.
Like, they're so crazy, they just probably asked.
nick swardson
Yeah, I mean, it's like, just have a litter box in your room.
In the lobby?
joe rogan
Yeah.
nick swardson
Come on, man.
joe rogan
I bet a lot of them had them in their room.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I bet they are just going up that fucking flight of stairs with a duffel bag filled with litter.
nick swardson
Housekeeping!
joe rogan
And a big ol' fucking plastic cement mixer.
They pour the kitty litter in one of those plastic cement mixers.
You know, you ever make concrete when you were a kid?
Did you ever have to make concrete?
nick swardson
No.
joe rogan
I had construction jobs.
Sometimes you'd have to make concrete, so you'd have to pour the shit and pour the water and mix it.
You'd have to mix it in this big ol' fuckin' plastic tub that was a lot like a big litter box.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
And you could just do that.
Just to get one of them cement mixing tubs.
nick swardson
Good lord.
I want to do that.
I want to try it.
joe rogan
If you could get thousands of people...
nick swardson
I would get into a furry outfit.
I don't want to get fucked.
joe rogan
Okay, who would you be?
nick swardson
Who would I be?
joe rogan
Yeah, if you could be a furry.
Like, what creature?
What do you feel like your spirit animal is, Nick?
nick swardson
That's a good question.
I don't know, maybe...
joe rogan
Do you think you're a monkey or a wolf?
nick swardson
I would say a monkey over a wolf, if those are the options.
joe rogan
Okay, so we're moving more towards monkey.
I'm just trying to get like a taste palette.
It's a series of questions that I use to determine which wine would be best for you.
nick swardson
I would say a squirrel.
joe rogan
Squirrel?
Interesting.
nick swardson
It's very Midwest.
joe rogan
You are a rat, but your tail is so cute, we let it slide.
Plus, you only eat nuts and plants.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rats eat everything.
nick swardson
Yeah, I'm not a fucking rat.
joe rogan
Too sketchy.
nick swardson
Yeah, rats are just...
joe rogan
Can't be trusted.
Carrying diseases.
nick swardson
Squirrels are chill.
I used to hang out with squirrels in New York.
I would go into Union Square, and I saw a guy get a bag of nuts, and I watched him.
He would sit in the middle of the park, and the squirrels would come and crawl on him, and he would put a nut in his fist.
And the squirrels would reach in like it was like a little hole and pull the nut out and eat it on his arm.
So I studied this guy for weeks and I was like, I want to fucking do that.
So I go and I get a bag of nuts and I got the courage up and I got into the middle of the park and I sat there and the squirrels started coming on me and I started getting like panicky.
But you can't panic.
So I just zoned out, and then the squirrels started feeding out of my hands, and I started becoming a squirrel man.
And then I wanted to show my friends, so I'd bring my buddies to the park with me, and I'm like, watch this.
And they'd be like, what the fuck are you doing, man?
And I'm like, watch.
And the squirrels would be on my arms and stuff, and my friends were like, dude, I'm not on board with this at all.
And nobody thought I was cool.
They just thought I was like a fucking complete lunatic.
And I thought I was like an X-Men or something.
I had, like, gotten this, like, power that I dialed into, like, a whole...
I don't know.
joe rogan
You became, like, a Beastmaster.
nick swardson
Yeah, I thought it was rad, but...
joe rogan
Do you remember that show?
nick swardson
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
The dude used to be able to tell animals what to do, and they'd all listen to him?
nick swardson
Yeah, Beastmaster was the shit.
joe rogan
And he was fucking ripped.
nick swardson
The one thing they could remake, they fucking don't.
That'd be a sweet remake.
And 100% you should be the Beastmaster.
You or me.
We could be Beastmasters.
joe rogan
We could do it.
Brothers and sisters.
nick swardson
Beastmasters.
joe rogan
We need a bunch of chicks, too.
You gotta have diversity today if you're gonna pitch a show.
We should have at least one black, female, trans Beastmaster.
Look at him!
He's jacked!
That seems like the newer version of Beastmaster.
Is that the original Beastmaster?
nick swardson
Is that the porno?
joe rogan
No, it's that guy right above him.
nick swardson
Yeah, it's that dude.
joe rogan
That was the original Beastmaster.
That was the dude that was in a movie called Laser Blast.
Laser Blast was a fucking favorite science fiction movie of mine when I was like a little kid, man.
Like during the Star Wars days.
Yeah, and he found this gun.
He found this gun.
nick swardson
Look at the makeup on the right.
joe rogan
Oh, so bad.
It was this alien gun that you put in your arm.
Like, you put your arm in it, rather.
Like, you fist this gun.
Like, that's how it works.
And he found this thing.
Like, the alien that, like, crashed their spaceship and lost their gun.
And this dude picked it up.
And the gun slowly but surely turned him into this monster.
It was awesome!
nick swardson
That fucking thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, see that guy?
Like, see the pictures?
Those are the actual aliens.
So that's what he turned into.
Those are the laser blasts, 1978. Dude, I was 11. That was a movie?
Yeah, I was 11 years old when this came out.
So when you see the guy in the upper pictures, scroll up a little bit, see the one with the teeth out on the left-hand side on the top?
With the teeth on the left-hand side?
Yeah, that one.
That is what he turned into when he kept fucking with that gun.
It was sort of like a take on Gollum's Ring, in a way, right?
The more he fucked with his gun, the more he would become one of those aliens and start shooting shit with this weird fisting gun.
It was dope, though, dude.
See if you can get a clip.
You can find a clip online.
nick swardson
He turns into me in Vegas?
Ayo!
joe rogan
Dude, when you're 11, it's awesome.
Go full screen.
It's a special preview.
Oh, this is a preview.
See?
So the dude finds this in the desert.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Look at the aliens like, oh no.
He's got our gun.
They're pissed off.
See, they're in their spaceship and he uses it.
Yeah, see the spaceship lands?
unidentified
It's the story of a UFO that has landed and visitors from a galaxy light years away.
nick swardson
That ship was decent effects.
joe rogan
How bad is this?
unidentified
Oh my god, it's the greatest thing of all time.
joe rogan
Oh, he shot at them.
He fucked them up, and they fucked him up.
unidentified
Oh my god, this is so bad!
joe rogan
Look at him.
He just looks like a douche, right?
unidentified
Yeah, seriously.
joe rogan
And he turns into a monster, look.
nick swardson
Oh my god, this looks so bad!
joe rogan
They shot the cop car.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh my gosh.
nick swardson
They tipped over his bike.
joe rogan
When we have the new studio, we should do a fight companion with this movie, Laser Blast.
nick swardson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
You don't drink anymore.
unidentified
Damn it.
nick swardson
I do.
joe rogan
You do?
nick swardson
I'm just taking a break.
joe rogan
How much of a break?
nick swardson
I start another movie in like two weeks, so I'm taking a break until after Labor Day.
joe rogan
Okay.
After Labor Day...
You and I will get fucked up, and we'll watch Laser Blast.
nick swardson
100%.
joe rogan
And we will start it from play, and we'll watch this fucking silly movie.
Play more of it.
Just keep it running in the background the entire time the show's on.
nick swardson
Yeah, there's like 10 seconds left of the trailer.
joe rogan
It's so bad!
How bad is it?
nick swardson
That looks really bad.
unidentified
So bad!
nick swardson
Any time a gun sounds like that.
joe rogan
So I was wrong.
That's not the laser blast guy.
It's a different guy who looks like him.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a different dude.
joe rogan
It looks like him.
He's from another movie, though.
The guy, the laser blast guy was in, or the Beastmaster guy was in some other movie that was really cool.
nick swardson
He looks familiar.
He looks like an old school.
joe rogan
He's been in a bunch of shit.
nick swardson
What is this, the French version?
unidentified
He's got the whole movie.
It's on YouTube.
nick swardson
Well wait, show a Beastmaster trailer.
joe rogan
Look how bad it is.
Look how bad, like, even the, like, the fucking letters are shaky.
Like, when they play the letters, look at this.
They can't even keep it still.
nick swardson
No effort into the font.
joe rogan
They didn't have the skill back then.
They would, like, they would do all this shit by hand, like a bunch of monkeys.
nick swardson
Is that the dude?
Kim Milford?
joe rogan
Cheryl Smith was probably hot as fuck back in the day, right?
nick swardson
She definitely did coke.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
nick swardson
I mean, it's 1978. I don't think you had a choice back then.
joe rogan
Yeah, they made you do coke.
nick swardson
They punched coke into your face when you were born.
joe rogan
And you had to wear bell bottoms.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is the beginning of the movie.
Dude's like, hey, what's that?
Like, this movie's so fucking stupid.
He's like, well, just walking.
nick swardson
He's so tired.
Just walking through a boiling hot shit desert.
joe rogan
I can't believe.
So I think this is like the alien with a gun.
nick swardson
Well, let's save it until we wait.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
nick swardson
Until we watch it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll save it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the original alien.
That he was, uh, that's what it was.
That guy dies.
He leaves him the gun.
nick swardson
Spoiler alert!
joe rogan
So, I'm wrong.
I thought that that guy was the Beastmaster guy.
But Beastmaster...
nick swardson
Doesn't matter, we were still turned on to a gem with laser blast.
joe rogan
I'm glad I remembered that.
I don't know how I remembered that.
I don't know how the fuck that's still in my brain.
Because I haven't seen that movie in...
I probably haven't seen it since like a year after I watched it the first time.
nick swardson
That's the guy.
joe rogan
Mark Singer.
He was in some movie.
He played a blind guy.
That guy's been in everything.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was in Teen Wolf.
He's kissing a dude.
unidentified
What's that all about?
joe rogan
Cut that out.
Beauty and the Beast.
nick swardson
He's going LRG on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's in a...
That guy's got a gang of movies he did.
But...
Also Beastmaster.
nick swardson
And the young and the restless.
joe rogan
If you had a Beastmaster, would people think it was racist if you hired a black guy?
nick swardson
What do you mean?
joe rogan
If you had a guy that could talk to monkeys.
As long as he's a white guy.
If it's a white guy and the white guy can walk into the forest and falcons land on him and fucking giraffes come up to him and he gives him an apple and shit, everybody's cool with it.
But if you had a black guy, like Jet Black, Wesley Snipes Black, and he's walking through the jungle and all the animals flock to him and he and the monkeys, they talk to each other and he tells the monkeys what to do, people will be like, no fucking way!
That is so racist.
Are you saying that black people are closer to these animals?
No, no, no!
That's what we're saying!
No, no, no!
We're saying he's really cool, and the animals like him.
That's not what I got out of it, bro.
How come white people can't talk to monkeys, but black people can?
Get the fuck out of here with your racist, bullshit-ass, ableist movie.
unidentified
Right?
But if it's a white blonde guy, you're like, yeah, he's amazing like Thor.
nick swardson
You can talk to anything.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's amazing.
He channels the spirits of these animals.
They know he's pure.
He doesn't have facial hair for some reason.
nick swardson
Yeah, if he spoke to a unicorn, people wouldn't freak out.
joe rogan
He doesn't have any clothes on, but his hair is coiffed.
He's like, he doesn't need clothes, bro.
I just need shampoo and some conditioner.
nick swardson
He lives in the jungle, but his hair is just perfect.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
It's just like style.
It's kind of frosted.
unidentified
Somehow he has highlights in the forest.
That's cool.
nick swardson
Doesn't make any sense.
joe rogan
He's super close with eagles.
Dude, I had a hawk issue in my backyard yesterday.
I tweeted, I Instagramed this picture that I found a hawk dead in my yard that another animal had something, had bitten its head off.
nick swardson
Jesus.
joe rogan
And had eaten its breast tissue.
unidentified
Ugh!
joe rogan
Okay?
So, that was a while back.
Well, yesterday, I was out in my yard and I let the chickens out.
I have chickens, and the chickens are wandering around, and there's three fucking hawks.
They're not big hawks.
They're small.
They're like the size of this thermos.
You know, they're probably like 12 inches high or something.
Not a big hawk.
But they're trying to jack these chickens.
They're like on the chicken coop, and one of them swoops down and slams into the mesh, like bangs into the mesh of the chicken coop, like just trying to get at them.
So he's a chicken dude.
So I'm like, this is crazy.
So I have my kids come out, my wife come out, and we're looking at these birds swooping down, and one of them landing on top of the roof, and the other one's in the trees.
I'm like, this is so fucking strange, man.
What is going on?
And they're just making noise, like, meh, meh, meh.
Like, really loud.
They're juveniles.
And I've found two of them that are dead.
And what I'm thinking, the two of them that I've found that are dead are bigger.
So I saw these animals, these small ones, and then the next day I found a dead one.
And the dead one also had its head missing.
I think there's some sort of a bird war going on in my neighborhood.
That there's like a bird gang war going on.
And I think there's hawks and there's larger hawks.
And one of my friends saw a larger hawk eating baby hawks in a tree.
nick swardson
Good lord.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was on the way down the street.
And apparently going to his car, and he saw these hawks that are in our neighborhood killing these baby hawks.
And we're like, what the fuck is going on?
And so I was like, well, so the babies were there by themselves?
And then the hawks killing the babies?
Like, he saw it happen.
I was like, that is insane.
So this is like some sort of a gang war.
Because I told him about the hawks being dead, and he found one of them like that.
nick swardson
Shit is getting real in your neighborhood.
joe rogan
Dude, it's crazy.
nick swardson
It's fucking Hawk-mageddon.
joe rogan
I think it's just hawks killing other hawks.
They're trying to establish...
probably just like all these other animals.
Apparently mountain lions do that, too.
Bears do that.
They'll kill young ones.
They'll find other people's young and kill them because they think they're competition.
There's only so many rats, you know, or a rabbit that a hawk can eat.
nick swardson
God.
joe rogan
Fuck, dude.
nick swardson
That's intense.
joe rogan
So we found two.
Two different hawks with no heads.
nick swardson
Do you normally have a lot of hawks in your neighborhood?
joe rogan
Definitely.
You see them all the time.
You see them floating around.
They're just circling all the time.
You see them all the time.
All throughout the Hollywood Hills, you can see them.
nick swardson
I don't know if I've ever seen a hawk, maybe.
joe rogan
My friend Tom, Tom Chironis, director, he was in his house in Studio City and he watched a dove or some small bird just get jacked by a hawk right in front of him.
It was sitting on a fence.
The bird was just sitting there chilling.
Oh, what a wonderful day to be a bird.
And he said this hawk just came down.
unidentified
Swap!
joe rogan
Just grabbed him right there and fucking flew off.
nick swardson
And they do it just for fun, right?
unidentified
No, they eat them.
joe rogan
They eat birds.
nick swardson
Do they really?
joe rogan
Dude, birds eat birds.
Yeah.
We played a video of owls jacking a hawk.
nick swardson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen that one?
nick swardson
No, an owl jacking a hawk?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
nick swardson
I've seen owls, like, eat rabbits and shit, right?
joe rogan
They put a night vision camera on this tree so they could capture these hawks that were in this little nest together.
Might be even a young hawk.
And this owl comes in from out of the sky.
Like, you don't see anything until you see its eyes.
You see its floating eyes.
And then, watch this.
Watch this video.
It's amazing.
nick swardson
That's a hawk?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Watch this.
Boom!
nick swardson
Later.
joe rogan
Just jacks him.
nick swardson
His buddy's like, Mark?
joe rogan
One more time, one more time, one more time.
nick swardson
Yeah, let's see that again.
joe rogan
Watch this.
See the little eyes in the distance?
See how they're floating?
nick swardson
Oh, yeah.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Watch this.
Bitch!
nick swardson
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
Crazy is that?
So there you go.
There's your answer.
Birds eat birds.
nick swardson
Dude, that's intense.
joe rogan
They eat the fuck out of each other.
nick swardson
I mean, if you see Ethan Hawke in your neighborhood, I would get fucking really worried, dude.
joe rogan
Ethan's looking very predatory lately.
nick swardson
That would be really scary.
That would be dope.
I wish my last name were Hawk.
joe rogan
You can make it Hawk.
I bet he did.
nick swardson
You think he did?
joe rogan
His name's like Ethan Wienerschnitzel.
He's like, I gotta be mysterious.
I gotta be Hawk.
nick swardson
Ethan Shamalama.
Ding dong.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people who've done that, right?
Like Jamie Foxx, he had the most brilliant idea ever.
He made his name an androgynous name so that he would get picked as people to go up in the Laugh Factory.
Because it was a Laugh Factory open mic and they would pick chicks more than they would pick dudes because there weren't very many chicks.
So they would try to get a certain amount of chicks.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
So he made his name ambiguous.
He changed his name to Jamie Foxx with two X's.
nick swardson
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Smart.
nick swardson
His old stand-up's hilarious.
I used to watch his old Showtime specials.
joe rogan
He's gonna be on on Thursday.
nick swardson
Is he really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
nick swardson
Oh, it's amazing.
joe rogan
That guy can do everything.
He's a bizarre guy.
nick swardson
Insanely talented.
joe rogan
He can sing.
He can act.
He can legitimately sing.
And legitimately act.
nick swardson
And do stand-up.
joe rogan
And do stand-up.
nick swardson
Stand-up's the fucking hardest.
I mean, that's...
To be like a monster.
He was a big headliner, dude.
joe rogan
That guy was a monster.
Yeah, he just stopped doing it.
nick swardson
The foxhole?
joe rogan
Remember when he had that, um...
Character he did on In Living Color, the woman with the giant crazy lips.
nick swardson
Yeah, fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
He was the original duck face, right?
Wasn't she?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did she do that?
Am I imagining that she made a duck face?
nick swardson
No, she did.
joe rogan
Is that the original duck face?
unidentified
You can find it, right?
joe rogan
Can I see it?
unidentified
Ugly Wanda?
nick swardson
Yeah, Ugly Wanda.
joe rogan
Do you think that Ugly Wanda is the original of the Duck...
Yeah, there's the Duck Face.
That's Ugly Wanda.
That character might be the original Duck Face.
That might be what everybody copied.
nick swardson
It's already hilarious right there.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
Dude.
In Living Color is a forgotten show.
It was one of the funniest fucking shows ever.
nick swardson
Yeah, it was amazing.
joe rogan
Dude, do you remember Handyman?
nick swardson
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Do you remember File Marshal Bill?
I remember...
nick swardson
Fire Marshal Bill.
joe rogan
God, I can't stop coughing.
Fire Marshal Bill, I was playing pool.
Me and my friend John were playing pool in New York, and this show was on, you know, above the pool table.
unidentified
We were like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
We're like, I can't even believe this is a real show.
Like, there had never been a show, like when Jim Carrey played that guy who'd been burnt up in a fire.
There'd never been a fucking sketch show where they showed a guy with scars all over his face.
Like, what the fuck?
nick swardson
Oh, yeah, and also...
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that?
He had no lips?
nick swardson
A burn victim.
joe rogan
And he used to look crazy?
That is insane!
See if you can find a clip.
nick swardson
Well, also, Venus DeMilo, the person who did crystal meth.
A crystal meth trans weightlifter.
Like, what the fuck?
unidentified
How do you even pitch that?
joe rogan
What a crazy show.
People forgot.
How about two snaps up?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that?
nick swardson
It was amazing.
joe rogan
People forgot.
They forgot how good this show was.
nick swardson
Yeah, they were great.
joe rogan
When we were young in the 90s, this was the show.
nick swardson
Yeah, it was hilarious.
joe rogan
It was the show.
It's the show that launched Jennifer Lopez.
nick swardson
It didn't launch her.
joe rogan
She was a fly girl, bro.
nick swardson
Well, yeah, but...
I mean...
But she wasn't acting on the show.
joe rogan
Didn't matter, dude.
She became a fly girl.
Come on, son.
Have some respect.
nick swardson
Alright.
joe rogan
No, I'm just saying- Are you not impressed?
You're looking at me like, I don't even care, bro.
nick swardson
I'm impressed that she's a flagger.
I remember her being a flagger.
I'm saying she didn't- That wasn't her first thing.
Was it her first thing?
joe rogan
I think it was her first thing, man.
Where is she?
nick swardson
God, that's her in the front.
joe rogan
That's her in the bottom.
nick swardson
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
I want my money back.
What have you done?
What do you really look like?
How did you do that?
nick swardson
That is funny that they had...
joe rogan
She was the first girl.
nick swardson
The fly girls.
joe rogan
She was the first girl to become famous for her ass.
Right?
Not for her, obviously.
She's talented.
Don't get me wrong.
nick swardson
She's ripped now.
joe rogan
Oh, is she?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Great shape.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But she also resisted the temptation to accentuate that ass in an artificial manner.
She's stuck with squats and dancing.
Respect.
nick swardson
Respect.
joe rogan
Because she was the original big booty girl, right?
I mean, if you think about it, and then all those other chicks.
nick swardson
Yeah.
That's the first person I remember where people are like, oh shit.
joe rogan
Some people are taking it too far.
I saw a young lady this weekend that was just taking it way too far.
nick swardson
Well, I mean, why?
Butt implants to me are so bizarre.
I don't know why the fuck.
I don't know what that does.
joe rogan
See, that's a real butt.
That's Jennifer Lopez's butt.
nick swardson
That is a bottom.
joe rogan
That's legit.
That is Latina DNA, that's exercise, squats, dancing, and just the sheer love of dick that just comes out in everything she does.
Like, look at that.
God damn, that woman's hot.
She's 48. She could be 100. What?
unidentified
She's 48?
joe rogan
If she's 100 and looks just like that, people will line up to fuck her.
nick swardson
Look at her skin.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's insanely hot.
nick swardson
That's like some Westworld shit.
joe rogan
Well, she's got, like, superpower DNA. Like, there's no way you just get that with a regular person.
That's like superpower DNA. Yeah, no, it's amazing.
But what was the point?
nick swardson
That's like my skin.
joe rogan
Oh, see, she stayed natural, man.
That's the crazy thing.
Like, there's so many women, like, and obviously not her stature where they're, like, legit movie stars and stuff like that, but, like, some of these pop gals are stuffing so much fucking stuff into their ass that it wiggles like a waterbed when they're shaking themselves.
unidentified
It's like nauseating.
joe rogan
There was some chick, what is the girl's name?
Iggy Azalea, is that her name?
There's a video that she's doing where she's shaking her ass, and it's literally like trying to fuck in a waterbed.
It's like, whoosh, whoosh.
nick swardson
It's like, stop.
joe rogan
Slow down.
Unless that's your real ass.
In which case, multiple apologies.
unidentified
Multiple.
nick swardson
Many apologies if that's your real ass.
joe rogan
You're big ass shaming.
You're body shaming.
nick swardson
Fuck you, Joe.
joe rogan
I'm not body shaming.
But if you have a crazy body, we're going to talk about it.
And if your ass is that giant, people are going to talk about it.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I guess it's body shaming to be...
No, it's surgery shaming.
That's what it is.
nick swardson
I think that's legitimate, just surgery shame.
joe rogan
Sure, right?
If you call it.
Like, if it's...
If we had done that earlier, would we have lost Michael Jackson?
Like, if somebody's surgery shamed him, like, super- Hey, dude!
Hey, hey, hey!
Stop!
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
What's going on?
Why is your nose doing this?
What's going on?
Why is it getting so small?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
His nose started caving in, man.
Remember when it was caving in?
nick swardson
Yeah, I'm aware.
Good lord.
joe rogan
Good lord.
nick swardson
I mean, I have a friend, so I went to dinner with a friend of mine.
She's awesome.
And I hadn't seen her for a while.
And she got plastic surgery.
Plastic surgery, and I didn't, she didn't bring it up.
I hadn't seen it for like five years.
And it was noticeable.
Not big time, but enough.
And I didn't know how to handle it.
I didn't know what to do, so I just didn't say anything.
But I wanted to be like, why?
But once somebody already does it, it's kind of a fucking moot point.
To be like, hey, what'd you do?
Go back!
So I just let it go.
But it was really awkward.
She was already fucking gorgeous.
And then I don't know why she did that to herself.
So it was really bizarre.
It was a very bizarre feeling.
Have you experienced that?
Have you seen...
I mean, you must have.
joe rogan
I definitely have.
But my friend, even weirder, was dating a girl, an Asian girl, who got that eye surgery.
nick swardson
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And he hadn't seen her in a long time.
And then he actually told me about this.
After we did the podcast, we were talking about that eye surgery.
Remember when we showed it?
Like how many Korean women in particular are getting this crazy surgery where it changes your face.
It makes your eyes way bigger.
They cut your lids and give you like this anime weird look.
And it's apparently super, super popular.
But he hadn't seen her in a while.
And then he saw her and she had the thing done and he didn't even recognize her.
nick swardson
He was like, what?
Right.
joe rogan
It was like, it was off.
It was like, if I saw you and all of a sudden your eyes were giant and I had to go, hey...
What's up, Nick?
Like, look, look at that.
nick swardson
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
nick swardson
Well, that...
joe rogan
In that case, it looks really good.
nick swardson
I was gonna say.
joe rogan
Bravo.
But it's a weird thing that is, like, super, super common.
They get that look, right?
So they go from having...
Is that a bunch of different girls?
Ooh, that scares the shit out of me.
nick swardson
Dude, we have a friend I just realized who got it done.
joe rogan
If that's a bunch of different girls, that freaks me the fuck out.
nick swardson
Have you seen him?
joe rogan
No.
nick swardson
He got it done.
You know who that is?
Of course.
He did the same thing with the eyes.
joe rogan
Let's keep it on the DL. Yeah, that's why I wrote it down.
nick swardson
I didn't show you.
joe rogan
But that's like, she's becoming like westernized.
See, this is what they do.
It's so crazy, dude.
They slice your lid and they take like a chunk out of it.
Like, say if you were cutting up a mango into slices, they take a nice little mango slice and then stitch that bad boy up and then your lids...
Are just way smaller.
It says nations have different need for beauty choices in Korea.
The land is small and crowded that everyone can see and look at each other in the face.
What?
unidentified
What the fuck are you talking about?
joe rogan
No, you don't like having slanty eyes.
That's all it is.
You don't like the way your eyes look.
I get it.
Don't say crazy shit.
Unless that's a translation problem.
Nations have different need for beauty.
Listen to this explanation.
Hey, why do you guys have so many eye surgeries?
Well, in Korea the land is small and crowded and that everybody can see can look each other in the face.
The fuck did you just say?
nick swardson
Oh my god, you're drunk.
joe rogan
You're on pills.
nick swardson
Yeah, they got shit-faced.
joe rogan
Well, it must be some sort of a translation issue.
nick swardson
I think so.
joe rogan
Yeah, because if you said that to me, I'd be like, Nick, I think he's gone crazy.
Dude, the sentences don't make sense.
nick swardson
No, Joey, they do make sense.
My eyes couldn't see, brought your face high.
What's wrong?
Why is that weird?
Yeah, no, my friend that I hadn't seen for a while, I didn't know what to do.
I didn't know what to say, so I just started screaming and threw hot water in her face.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
nick swardson
As loud as I could, I started screaming.
Got a boiling pot of water.
And started yelling monster at the restaurant.
And everybody stopped.
And I just ran out and jumped into a cab.
joe rogan
Do you remember Night of the Living Dead?
Or not Night of the Living Dead.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
When someone would turn into one of those things and they would just be like, just something wrong.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I don't know, something's wrong with Nick.
It just doesn't seem like Nick anymore.
nick swardson
And it was a slight thing.
joe rogan
Like, Nick, what's wrong?
Nothing.
You would wander off and you'd really be an alien.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they would find the pod.
Like, oh my god!
unidentified
Nick!
joe rogan
They'd find the pod under your bed, like cobwebs and shit.
Like, oh no!
nick swardson
Slime!
Ew.
Well, it's like The Thing.
Remember The Thing?
joe rogan
I do.
nick swardson
That was the fucking, it's the best movie, one of my favorite movies of all time.
The original John Carpenter's The Thing.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
nick swardson
Well, that wasn't even the original.
It was so trippy.
joe rogan
That wasn't even the original.
nick swardson
Well, no, yeah, that was a remake, but it was a good remake.
joe rogan
It was awesome.
nick swardson
Phenomenal remake.
But that was so trippy because you didn't know until they burned their blood who was an alien, so you just walk around like, yeah, what happened to Gary?
I don't know.
Are you alright, Mark?
Yeah.
Yeah!
Just tired!
joe rogan
Didn't he get the dog, too?
It became part of the dog, remember that?
unidentified
When they burned it, it turned into a dog, too.
nick swardson
Tentacles and shit.
joe rogan
Remember when they're doing an operation on the guy?
nick swardson
God!
joe rogan
Remember when they're doing an operation on the guy, and the chest opens up and becomes Jaws and bites his arms off?
nick swardson
Yeah!
They're doing the, what's it called?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Fibrillator.
Defibrillator, defibrillator, is that what it is?
nick swardson
And his fucking fists go through.
joe rogan
It turned into Jaws and opened up and bit his arms off.
nick swardson
Yeah, that's insane.
That movie ruled.
And it holds up, even though the effects are bizarre.
joe rogan
It holds up!
nick swardson
It still gives you, like, wicked anxiety.
joe rogan
Dude, Kurt Russell in this movie is like one of my all-time favorite- Yeah.
Yeah, look at that.
That's crazy.
It opens up and bites that guy's- Isn't that guy from Cheers?
Was he in Cheers?
nick swardson
He could be.
If he's not, he should be.
joe rogan
Just say he was.
nick swardson
Is this a scene from Cheers?
Is this one of the lost episodes where they cut him off?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're like, these guys are going crazy.
nick swardson
They're like, Steve, you're cut off.
joe rogan
Remember it turned into a big spider thing?
nick swardson
Yeah, that was kind of weird.
joe rogan
The head popped up, legs, and started running around like a spider.
That movie was scary as fuck, man.
nick swardson
How about The End?
The End is the best.
joe rogan
Don't spoil it.
nick swardson
I know, I won't.
joe rogan
Spoiler.
nick swardson
I didn't, I didn't.
joe rogan
Is that Rick Baker?
nick swardson
Yeah, for sure.
It's Rick Baker.
joe rogan
He's the special effects guy that did American Werewolf in London.
nick swardson
He's fucking ledge.
He passed away, right?
joe rogan
I do not think he did.
I think he's still alive.
nick swardson
Oh, sorry, Rick.
joe rogan
I believe Rick Baker's still alive.
I think he was just working on something that's going on right now.
I forget what it was, but I feel like there's some new project that I just read something about.
I forget what it is.
God damn it.
Did you see the new version of the thing?
They did a third version.
nick swardson
I saw it.
joe rogan
I thought it was good.
I liked it.
nick swardson
I did not like it.
joe rogan
How dare you.
nick swardson
No, I just, it was, I wanted to like it, but I just thought it was bad.
joe rogan
It's okay, bro.
People get mad if you don't like things they like.
nick swardson
Yeah.
unidentified
They're like, bro, maybe you suck.
joe rogan
Maybe you suck.
nick swardson
Yeah, they turn it on you.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get mad at you.
nick swardson
But also, I'm somebody where I want to like shit.
So when people are like, oh, you're just a hater, it's like, no.
I fucking go to a movie because I want to like it.
If I watch something, I don't want to hate something.
Why would I make an effort to go to a movie to hate it?
That's fucking retarded.
joe rogan
I agree, dude.
nick swardson
So I go, and then I'm like, oh, I don't like this.
And then people go, no, you don't.
And I'm like, no, I don't.
I just, I didn't like it.
It wasn't, you know.
joe rogan
I'm on your side, bro.
nick swardson
Thank you.
joe rogan
Jesus, everyone's so touchy.
nick swardson
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Did you see Life with Ryan Reynolds?
nick swardson
I did see Life.
joe rogan
Did you like it?
nick swardson
I liked it.
joe rogan
Did you like it, Jamie?
I liked it.
I put it on Twitter and I got attacked.
People are like, you're a fucking idiot.
That show sucked.
That movie blew.
It was stupid.
It was cliche.
Same old shit.
It was a ripoff of Aliens.
There's a lot of people that liked it, but it seemed like there was a good percentage of them that hated it.
nick swardson
Well, here's the thing.
It's like, that critique where people go, it's, you know, they took this, this, and it's like, yeah, movies do borrow certain elements, and especially, like, life had certain stuff that, yeah, devices that they used.
joe rogan
Right.
nick swardson
But it's also, it's still...
You just have to go, okay, and then like sit back and just enjoy performances and enjoy what they made.
It's a fucking really well shot movie.
joe rogan
You know what it really highlighted to me?
That television shows, like, it's contagious, bro.
Now you're doing it.
nick swardson
Yeah, thanks.
joe rogan
Television shows like House of Cards and Game of Thrones, these serial shows, they've ruined Movies.
This is why because like to tell a story in 90 minutes, you're so limited.
Yeah, you can only get it so invested in the character There's only so many different plot twists you can have like especially like this sort of a genre right like you take an alien lifeform It gets on board the people and tries to kill them.
Okay How many times have we seen that?
We've seen that a fucking thousand times in movies, right?
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
So you're going to run into a bunch of...
And you've got to jam it all into 90 minutes.
There's certain things that have to be like plot mechanisms.
They have to take place.
Like the alien has to attack the first person.
You're going to see it coming.
There's going to be a bunch of shit going on.
nick swardson
Yeah, you have to adhere to certain cliché kind of devices.
That's why people that...
Do you like Prometheus?
joe rogan
I did like Prometheus.
unidentified
I didn't love it.
nick swardson
I like Prometheus.
joe rogan
I didn't love it.
nick swardson
And I like the new alien.
joe rogan
I didn't see the new alien, but I heard it's awesome.
It's great.
nick swardson
I mean, I like both of them and I got a lot of shit for that.
People are like, you're a fucking idiot.
And I was like, easy, grandma.
joe rogan
Maybe you're hanging around with mean people.
nick swardson
What?
joe rogan
Is that a joke?
nick swardson
No, it wasn't my grandma.
No, but I do hang out with people that are critical, like director friends and shit.
joe rogan
Oh, directors are the worst to watch a movie with.
nick swardson
Yeah, they're pretty bad director people.
They're so beyond critical.
But I'm critical of comedies.
When I go to comedies, I walk out of a lot of them.
joe rogan
You know what the worst is?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
If you're around actors that haven't made it.
Actors that like barely work.
nick swardson
Super negative.
joe rogan
I don't even understand that choice.
nick swardson
Yeah.
Yeah, that's really bad.
joe rogan
Whatever happened to his career?
nick swardson
You're like, that's Daniel Day-Lewis.
Yeah, what's his middle name?
Day?
joe rogan
Yeah.
His career really fell off after that movie.
Somebody said that about the dude in Jurassic Park.
Like, he's in fucking Jurassic Park.
It's one of the biggest movies of all time.
Everyone's career falls off after Jurassic Park.
Okay?
It's no way to get bigger, you stupid fuck.
Like, I'm sure the guy probably did a lot of movies after Jurassic fucking Park.
Also, maybe he made enough money that he doesn't have to do movies anymore, you twat.
nick swardson
Right.
Yeah, he's cashing his fucking Jurassic dollars.
joe rogan
And can I have my latte?
I'm tired of this.
unidentified
I just hate his choice.
joe rogan
His career totally dropped off.
Did you say nonfat?
Nonfat soy.
Nonfat soy.
Sugar-free, please.
nick swardson
Yeah, it is funny.
I'll do interviews for stuff, and they'll be like, yeah, man, I'm just looking over your stuff.
Why did you do that movie?
And I'm like, because my friend was in it, and he asked me to do it.
joe rogan
Because I was hoping it wasn't going to suck.
nick swardson
I'm like, because I fucking...
Yeah, I'm friends with people, and they're doing a project, and they're like, hey, you want to do this?
I'm like, all right.
I'm not gonna go, no, fuck you, man!
Oh, yeah, you're my friend?
Like, yeah, there's like other variables besides, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, I was willing to do your assassin show.
nick swardson
Exactly.
joe rogan
There it is, right there.
nick swardson
You would do that for me because you trust me.
unidentified
You saw the process.
joe rogan
Exactly, I didn't even look into it.
And I could find out like halfway into the filming, Nick eats a pound of Adderall a day.
A full pound of Adderall.
They deliver it in pounds.
He's just on Adderall.
He doesn't even know he's making a movie.
He just found out it's a movie.
Thought he was in a dream about making a movie.
He just found out he's actually making a movie.
nick swardson
He thought he was at the theater.
joe rogan
He hasn't slept in a year.
There's one year, no sleep.
nick swardson
This guy puts Adderall on his foot and then kicks it in the Nick's mouth.
joe rogan
I think if you didn't sleep for a long time, but you were still up moving, you'd probably just start hallucinating, right?
Isn't that what people say?
unidentified
I did.
joe rogan
Right.
nick swardson
What happened to you?
This is a true story.
I did a show in Tahoe.
joe rogan
Writers on the story.
nick swardson
Riders.
I did a show in Tahoe, and I forgot to be hydrated, so I didn't get hydrated at all.
And so I didn't drink any water.
And I was drinking on the plane, and me and my buddy got into Reno, and we drove to Tahoe.
We were drinking in Tahoe, and I did my show.
We just kept drinking.
I didn't drink any water.
And then I got sick.
I was up like, I don't know, maybe like 15 hours.
And then I kept drinking and didn't really think about it.
I'm at the casino.
I'm having fun.
And then I start feeling sick.
And then I try to go to bed and I can't.
And then so I'm awake throughout the night.
And then the next day I'm still awake.
And I'm kind of panicking now because I haven't slept for over 24 hours.
And now I realize I have altitude sickness because I'm puking.
And then I haven't, so I'm trying to drink water.
So I got, I drank and I got alcohol poisoning and altitude sickness and sleep deprivation.
So I flew home to LA and I had slept for like 30 fucking six hours and I'm in my bed.
I'm like, I gotta go to sleep.
So I get in my bed and then, uh, I just start hearing like music and like all this stuff and like people, like there was a party next door, but there was no party.
And then, so I was like, what the fuck?
And then I'm lying in my bed and I just hear pounding on my floor.
And I was like, what the fuck?
And I heard, like, legitimate, like, pounding.
And I was, like, totally awake.
And I realized I hadn't slept.
And then I, like, took, like, some sleeping, like, some NyQuil or something, and then I finally got to bed.
unidentified
Jesus.
nick swardson
But it was super weird, man.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've heard people that do those races, those ultramarathon races, they start seeing shit that's not there.
Cam didn't have that happen to him, but I've heard other people, they see people on the side of the road waving at them that aren't even there.
nick swardson
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
nick swardson
Dude, altitude, have you ever gotten, altitude fucks with me real bad.
joe rogan
My friend Ben, Ben O'Brien, who was on the show last week, the week before last, he was talking about how he was in Nepal, and he was getting altitude sickness while he was in Nepal, and he saw a baby on the side of the road, and there was no baby.
And he saw a wolf.
He's like, dude, guys, there's a wolf.
There's a wolf.
And they're like, oh my god.
nick swardson
How many feet was he?
joe rogan
There's no wolf.
He's way the fuck up there.
nick swardson
Yeah, it fucks with you bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's above 13,000 feet.
And he was sick, too.
Everybody got food poisoning.
So he caught food poisoning and altitude sickness.
And he was just seeing things.
He saw the baby.
He's like, you guys don't see that baby?
And they're like, oh my god.
You see a baby?
nick swardson
You see a baby.
joe rogan
It's a baby, just chilling on the side of the road.
nick swardson
I'd be like, look closer at the baby, and then I'd just push him off.
Deuces.
joe rogan
Are you that guy?
nick swardson
Deuces, dog.
joe rogan
Are you the one who cuts his losses?
You're like, this guy is not going to make it.
nick swardson
Bang!
You've got to think about survival of the group, man.
Your buddy would not survive around me.
joe rogan
Did you watch Lost and think how you would handle things differently?
nick swardson
I never saw Lost.
I never saw one episode.
Never saw one episode.
I've heard people- Should I watch it?
joe rogan
Yes.
Up until like the last season.
And then quit halfway.
nick swardson
I heard it kind of jump ship.
joe rogan
Last season, it was like, they're all standing around while there's a pool that brings you back to life and no one's freaking out.
Like, what is wrong?
What the fuck kind of show am I watching?
Did you guys forget that people have to believe this shit?
Okay, what do you do?
They're just standing around there in, like, that perfect order that you do on sitcoms when there's a person talking here and there's another person talking about...
That never happens in real life.
nick swardson
The perfect blocking?
joe rogan
Yeah, perfect blocking.
In real life, people look at each other, you fucking asshole.
You're all standing around, no one's freaking out.
There's a pond that brings people back to life, and you guys are just phoning it in.
Fuck you!
nick swardson
I think that's why I jumped ship in it, because I heard it just derailed super bad, and then I heard the writers didn't think it was going to go that long, and so they ran out of shit.
That's what somebody told me.
That they were like, yeah, we didn't think it was, we weren't really ready.
joe rogan
It's so good in the beginning, though.
In the beginning, it's so good.
It's such a good show.
For the first, like, who knows how many seasons.
I binge-watched it after it was over.
nick swardson
It was like five or six, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Up until the last, like, season, it started to fall apart.
jamie vernon
Once he died, I think the show kind of fell apart.
unidentified
Spoiler alert.
nick swardson
It's that many people on the show?
joe rogan
And our boy Dominic, who was on the show, has been on this podcast.
nick swardson
That's my funny, my buddy, Jorge Garcia.
joe rogan
And then what happened to a dude who was kind of overweight and won the lottery.
There's the girl, that girl from Lost, she did a, oh, she was one of the girls in the Hobbit movie.
Yeah, she was like an elf.
Elf chick.
Hot as fuck.
nick swardson
She was elfin?
And so was Dominic Monahan.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was an elf too.
She was hot.
No, no.
Dominic was something else.
Wasn't he a hobbit?
He was a hobbit.
nick swardson
Yeah.
One of my favorite moments, I was in an audition one time years ago and the Lord of the Rings had just come out and I had seen it.
We were auditioning for some shitty movie and he was in the waiting room and they came out and they're like, we're running about 40 minutes behind.
I was like, are you fucking kidding me?
He was like, Jesus, man, what the hell?
And I go, what are you doing here?
And he goes, what do you mean?
I go, you were just in Lord of the Rings.
And he goes, yeah.
And I go, they shouldn't make you wait 40 minutes, dude.
I would be fucking mad.
And he was like, you're right.
And I go, yeah, no shit.
I go, fucking call your agent, man.
You're a rabble rouser.
You're one of the rings of the Lord.
joe rogan
Were you doing that just to kick him out of there so that you could get the bar?
nick swardson
No, I would have let him go in front of me.
I'm a good guy.
unidentified
Wow.
nick swardson
I was like, dude, you're in the biggest movie in the world.
joe rogan
Put that picture back up.
Let's see something here.
I forgot all these characters.
Now I'm remembering them when I'm seeing this again.
Remember the Middle Eastern guy?
unidentified
What's his name?
joe rogan
Saeed?
That's his name?
He's a bad motherfucker.
He's DTF? He was the first Middle Eastern dude who got to fuck white chicks in a big-time show, right?
He had a hot white girlfriend, didn't he?
nick swardson
Keith Urban is on it?
joe rogan
No, that's not Keith Urban, bro.
How dare you?
And then there's that Korean guy who was in Hawaii Five-0, and they wound up leaving Hawaii Five-0.
They were pissed off.
They were saying that they don't get enough respect.
Like, the Asian actors weren't getting paid as much as the white actors.
nick swardson
In Hawaii Five-0?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was the complaint.
I don't know if it's true.
nick swardson
I don't know if I would complain if I was on a show in Hawaii.
I'd be like, yeah, you can pay me in fucking Doritos.
I don't give a shit.
joe rogan
Dude, I think after a while, you just get tired of everything you're doing.
If you're doing somebody's show and it's in paradise, you get tired of being in paradise, I bet.
Right?
Don't they say people get island fever?
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
They move to, like, Oahu, and then after a while they're like, I gotta get out of here!
I can't do this!
nick swardson
Well, I guess.
I don't know if I could.
I would love to do that.
That's a fever I would not mind getting.
joe rogan
Do you see yourself living in Maui in the future?
nick swardson
Yeah!
My buddy opened a bar there.
joe rogan
Your buddy opened a bar in Maui?
nick swardson
Yeah, and he said, I opened a bar.
It's a true story.
And I go, can I get a job?
And he goes, what do you mean?
I go, I don't know.
Can I bartend?
And he was like, yeah.
joe rogan
The house emcee.
nick swardson
I don't want to fucking be the house MC, man.
joe rogan
Just have a microphone and start talking to people.
Where are you from, Bob?
nick swardson
That sounds horrible.
That went from really paradisic...
Is that a word?
joe rogan
Yeah, it is now.
nick swardson
Yeah, I don't want to be a fucking...
I don't want a microphone.
It would be nice to bartend and be like, yeah, rum and coke, get a couple Mai Tais over here.
Just be like cocktail, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
They can give you a sweet apartment above the bar and you just wake up with a pounding headache every day because you're just drinking yourself to death in paradise.
nick swardson
Yeah, fuck yeah.
Sign me up, dude.
joe rogan
The sound of the water crashing into the bottom of the building.
nick swardson
Hit some waves.
joe rogan
There's like stone pylons that hold this bar up and it's just elevated over, partially elevated over the water.
nick swardson
Eat some lychee off the tree, fresh lychee.
joe rogan
It's really a contradiction.
It's a conundrum because you're in paradise.
It's the most beautiful place on earth.
It's peaceful.
You're relaxed.
You've given away all your personal belongings.
You're a pure minimalist now.
What do you have?
You have a few pairs of shorts, some flip-flops, and a microphone in case the microphone downstairs breaks because that's what you do now.
You go down and talk to people.
You go down tonight.
Nick, do you do stand-up anymore?
Well, I kind of do stand-up.
I mean, I have a mic, but, you know, they never know when I'm coming.
nick swardson
I have a mic, so yeah, it's kind of whenever I want to do it immediately.
joe rogan
You're telling me you wouldn't go to a bar if you knew that every night Joey Diaz was gonna take a microphone and just start walking through the crowd and talking shit.
nick swardson
100% I would do that.
joe rogan
100%.
nick swardson
Yeah, but that's Joey Diaz.
Like, I wouldn't be good at that.
joe rogan
You wouldn't be now, but you gotta get better.
nick swardson
Okay.
joe rogan
Gotta get better at being a bar guy.
Bar MC? The House MC. It's a skill, man, like anything else, like playing golf, like jerking off.
You get better at it.
nick swardson
Right.
joe rogan
Doesn't make sense.
nick swardson
It doesn't, but I think it does.
joe rogan
No.
Maybe you could just be like, you turn into a singer.
Everybody's like, Nick, you should really tell jokes again.
No, man, I'm just Jimmy Buffett songs.
nick swardson
But I make them in my voice, though, so I'm like, diarrhea!
And then have everybody clap.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could have, like, funny songs.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the move.
nick swardson
Alright, I'm on board.
I gotta go to dinner, Joe.
joe rogan
Where are you going?
Do you have to leave right now?
nick swardson
Vegan place, pretty soon, yeah.
joe rogan
You going to a vegan place?
Dude, you're healthy and up.
unidentified
What are you doing?
nick swardson
I know, I'm trying to, uh...
Just kind of get back into shape.
unidentified
Yeah?
nick swardson
So I'm getting back into the gym and I've been pretty good with my diet.
I'm getting kind of fascinated by diet.
So I've been off dairy for eight years.
unidentified
Whoa.
nick swardson
And then I've been pretty much cutting out sugar.
I have like dark chocolate if I really like start craving shit.
joe rogan
Wow.
nick swardson
But I'm trying to like really get my body.
I'm like really fascinated by diet.
It's my new fascination.
joe rogan
Well, you find the difference, right?
You eat healthy and you feel it.
nick swardson
I found the difference.
When I quit eating dairy, and it was some random dude at a juice bar who worked there, and I was always sick, and he was like, hey man, you're always sick, Swartzen.
And I go, yeah.
And he was like, do you eat a lot of dairy?
And I go, yeah.
And he goes, do this.
He goes, quit eating dairy for two weeks, see how you feel.
He's like, cold turkey.
And I go, okay, fuck it.
So I did, and I haven't been back in eight years.
unidentified
Wow.
nick swardson
My sleep, everything.
My stomach never got sick, never got migraines.
It changed everything.
And then I got super fascinated by that.
I still drank my tits off, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Have you ever tried raw milk?
nick swardson
No.
joe rogan
Apparently some people have an issue with homogenized and pasteurized milk, and they don't have it with raw milk.
Or they don't have it with goat's milk, too.
Especially raw goat's milk.
nick swardson
I've heard about goat's milk.
I just want to just bypass all of it.
I do, like, almond milk and rice milk.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's...
It's an ethical thing to bypass, too, if you really stop and think about it, because there's something fucking creepy about mass-produced, like, handles yanking on titties.
These cows that are, like, kind of perpetually pregnant.
Like, isn't that what the cows, like, they're constantly nursing, right?
So they make them get knocked up in order to have the milk come out, right?
The milk doesn't just come out.
It comes out when they're nursing.
nick swardson
It's a little weird.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it's weird.
It's fucking weird.
nick swardson
But I want to try to fuck with going vegan for a little bit and just see how it is.
joe rogan
How do you feel so far?
How long have you been doing it?
nick swardson
Two days.
But I mean, for the most part, I don't really eat a lot of red meat.
I mean, I eat like chicken and fish, but I'm gonna try to go vegan.
I'm gonna try to do it for like two weeks.
joe rogan
You know, one way that you can get protein that's very ethical and you don't even have to think about it too much is scallops and mussels and things along those lines.
When you eat...
What the fuck are they called?
Mollusks?
Is that the word?
Mollusk?
unidentified
Shellfish?
joe rogan
Shellfish is what I'm looking for.
Shellfish in particular, especially like clams and like...
nick swardson
Oysters?
joe rogan
Yeah, oysters and things along those lines.
They're so primitive, they don't even have like nervous systems.
We just think of them as like an animal, like a living creature, because they can move.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because they can close this.
But a Venus flytrap is probably way more sophisticated, and it's a plant.
Way more sophisticated an organism than that.
And then, especially when you're talking about those acacia trees, they'll have this communication set that...
There's nothing going on like that with mollusks.
They're like really stupid.
They're super ancient life forms that are kind of meat, but they're almost like what we're talking about, like that fucking gelatinous thing inside of the box.
That's what they're like.
nick swardson
You can eat it?
joe rogan
Yeah, scallops are amazing.
nick swardson
I mean, I've had scallops.
joe rogan
They're amazing.
nick swardson
Is a mollusk a scallop?
joe rogan
Yes.
A scallop is a mollusk.
Like a clam's a mollusk, a muscle's a mollusk.
nick swardson
Oh, that's a genre of a thing.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, I'm not an expert.
Five minutes ago, I couldn't even remember the name of it.
I just forgot.
nick swardson
Yeah, scallops are amazing.
joe rogan
But those things are a good way.
Oysters, they're a good way to get protein.
A lot of them is sustainable.
A lot of those things are sustainable because they actually make farms of them.
They grow them on the ground.
The same way you would grow fruit.
They grow them on the ground of an ocean, obviously.
But the same way you would grow fruit or grow vegetables.
You can grow these things.
And they're a good source of...
Quote, unquote, animal protein in an ethical way.
These things are so primitive.
They're not feeling shit.
They're not getting bummed out that you're eating them.
They just clamp down and close.
They're super-duper primitive.
nick swardson
Are they high in protein?
joe rogan
Yeah, very high in protein.
Really good for you.
Oysters are a good way, too, especially oysters in olive oil.
It's a good way to stay in a fat-based diet, like ketogenic diet, because there's so much fat in them.
For the olive oil and then the oysters themselves, very, very healthy for you.
Wow.
Yeah, really good for your body.
nick swardson
I got sick from oysters.
I had too many one time.
joe rogan
Raw oysters are a different story, you know.
Raw oysters, you really gotta get fresh stuff.
nick swardson
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Talking about cooked, smoked oysters, you get in like cans.
nick swardson
Oh.
joe rogan
Like, I take them with me on the road.
I'll buy them in bulk and I'll take them with me on the road so I have healthy snacks like in my hotel room.
nick swardson
Canned oysters?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
nick swardson
Canned shit bad for you?
joe rogan
No.
I'm sure there's some leeching of all sorts of different things when you put something into a container.
I wouldn't say you should eat it every day, because I used to eat sardines every day, but I turned positive for arsenic.
They found traces of arsenic in my system.
nick swardson
It's deadly.
joe rogan
It is.
But apparently it's just one of the heavy metals that is at the bottom of the ocean that's affected by pollution.
The levels of it are affected by pollution.
And so these sardines in particular, they're kind of bottom feeders.
And if you're in a polluted area and you get sardines from a polluted area, they'll have heavy metals in them.
You know, like mercury is a big one.
nick swardson
Right, yeah, mercury is huge.
joe rogan
You always hear that, right?
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I got off the sardines for a while and went back and got tested.
It was 100% clean.
They were like, it's got to be the sardines.
I said, totally makes sense.
Can't eat them every day, bro.
I was eating like three or four cans a day.
unidentified
Oh my god.
Jesus.
nick swardson
Yeah, three or four cans of anything.
Isn't that high in sodium, too?
joe rogan
Sodium's okay.
Just drink, as long as you drink water.
Sodium's fine.
Like, the idea, like, there's a total misconception about sodium causing high blood pressure and heart attacks that was all based on a bullshit study that somebody pushed through.
What was that study?
Like, sodium does not cause high blood pressure.
Google that.
Because there was, like, this whole bogus study that people keep repeating over and over again about salt.
Obviously, if you have too much of anything, it'll kill you, right?
Like, we talked about water.
Too much water will fuck you up.
Too much salt will definitely kill you.
nick swardson
Too many Starbursts.
joe rogan
If you drink a pound of salt, you're a fucking dead man.
You're a dead man.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You can eat a pound of meat.
It's time to end the war on salt.
The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science.
Yeah.
It's bullshit.
Not only that, it's an essential mineral.
Like, you need salt.
Yeah.
You don't want to have too much of it.
Absolutely.
Meaning, like, you don't want to cover everything in salt, just like you don't want to drink too much water, just like you don't want to eat too much fruit.
Like, if you eat too many oranges, it's not good.
You get a hundred oranges, it's not good for you.
nick swardson
Yeah, it's horrible.
So much sugar.
joe rogan
So much sugar, yeah.
But to have a good, healthy amount of salt in your diet, especially, like, Himalayan salt is really good for you.
nick swardson
Yeah, that's really good.
joe rogan
That shit's ancient.
These things are like Himalayan salt.
That salt crystal thing.
unidentified
This thing?
joe rogan
That little lamp.
That salt lamp.
nick swardson
What if you ate that?
joe rogan
See that one over there?
That's lit.
nick swardson
What if you ate that?
joe rogan
Probably be super good for you.
Make your dick hard as a rock.
That thing's supposed to emit energy, man.
Feels like it.
Doesn't it while it's over there?
Jamie, remind me to replace the battery in that one or whatever the fuck it needs.
Does it need a new bulb?
unidentified
It burned me.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't fuck with it.
Did it?
nick swardson
No.
Dude, that'd be sweet.
joe rogan
Is it plugged in anymore?
nick swardson
I think I unplugged it.
joe rogan
I hope you did.
Jesus Christ, it doesn't work.
You just keep it plugged in while it's just in there cooking.
unidentified
Might come back on sometimes.
nick swardson
Start smoking.
Yeah, but I've been good with diet.
I'm like really fascinated by it.
joe rogan
So you got somebody doing this for you?
You talking to a nutritionist?
nick swardson
I'm just kind of reading shit and just going by...
joe rogan
As long as you make sure that you get...
What you really should do, really should do, and I can send you to a guy, is go to a real good doctor that specializes in nutritional profiles and get your blood work done.
And let them find out, like, do you need, maybe you need niacin, you need vitamin D, you need vitamin B, like here, you're low in this, you're low in that.
There's a lot of stuff that people neglect, and they don't even know.
You know, you don't know until you actually get your blood work done.
You don't know what's low, what's okay.
nick swardson
I do want to do that.
I mean, I take a lot of vitamins and stuff, and I think I kind of, like, I'm doing a decent job just going rogue.
That was my last tattoo, by the way.
Rogue.
joe rogan
How drunk were you when you...
nick swardson
I was actually pretty decent there.
I got in Vegas.
joe rogan
Why did you decide to write Rogue in your arm?
nick swardson
Because me and my buddies, when we're partying, my buddy will text me like, hey, you want to go to the gym?
And I'm like, I'm going fucking Rogue, dude.
That just means that I'm signing up for a bender.
joe rogan
You're a good partier, though, dude.
I'll tell you, I've run into you going rogue many times, and it's never been anything but hugs and laughs.
nick swardson
Oh, yeah.
No, I'm like a really good drunk.
I know how to do it, and I know...
People see me, I post photos and shit, I'm always out raging.
And I'm not always raging, but when I do, it's really controlled.
No, you're good at it.
joe rogan
You're good at it.
nick swardson
I've built up a tolerance, and I know what I'm doing.
I don't just do any shot that's handed to me.
I don't know.
I keep it very simple, but yeah, I get really fired up.
I love drinking and going out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
nick swardson
I'm never, like, fighter guy, or I'm never, like, moody, dark guy.
joe rogan
That's the worst.
The depressed cry guy?
No, it's terrible.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
Will you stop?
Why are you crying?
nick swardson
Yeah.
I love her!
It's like, alright.
joe rogan
Dude.
nick swardson
You broke up!
joe rogan
It happens!
nick swardson
Yeah, so...
joe rogan
It's good for you.
nick swardson
Yeah, I'll never quit drinking.
Drinking's too fun, man.
joe rogan
Thank you.
I'm glad you said that.
nick swardson
Yeah, I mean, I'll take breaks, but...
joe rogan
I like drinking.
It's fun.
It is.
I just don't like the effects of it on the body.
But that's the fucking trade-off.
The trade-off is it's fun for a little while, and then you're like, oh.
I was in Italy.
I drank wine every night.
I was in Italy.
I just got back.
I drank wine seven nights in a row.
I drank many glasses of wine.
I ate pasta seven nights in a row.
I totally went off the rails with my diet.
Gained five pounds.
nick swardson
You have to.
It's Italy.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying, dog.
nick swardson
Yeah.
You gotta go off the rails.
Yeah, you gotta go off the rails.
joe rogan
You gotta enjoy yourself.
nick swardson
But it's fun to go off the rails and get back on the rails, and you appreciate being on the rails.
joe rogan
I like the way you think.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you're not a drunk that I'd ever avoid.
There's certain people, we all know them.
You see them drunk and you're like, oh no.
I can't be responsible for this.
I gotta get out of here.
nick swardson
Yeah, no, it's scary.
There's some comics where I'm like, oof, I gotta babysit this person?
There's some dark motherfuckers, man.
joe rogan
Dude, read this text.
Can you believe she said that to me, bro?
I'm like, oh my god, I can't do this.
I can't do this.
I can't read your texts.
I can't help you with this.
This is yours.
nick swardson
Yeah, people go, bad rogue.
joe rogan
She's got my kids, bro!
Okay!
Okay!
I got it.
Hey, look at the time.
You're not thinking rational.
You're drunk.
nick swardson
You partied into a family.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, in the middle of it, like he's going through Tinder.
I'm just fucking swiping, thinking about her, man.
I don't even want to take this.
nick swardson
Fucking the worst.
I lost one of my best friends who's like one of my rogue fucking buddies and he, my roommate, was friends with his ex-girlfriend and they were watching a movie and I came home and I went to bed and said hi to him and then the next day he flipped out on me and I texted him and I go, what's up man?
He's like, my ex-girlfriend was at your fucking house.
And I go, yeah, he's watching a movie with my So you were supposed to tell him that his ex-girlfriend is dating your buddy?
Yeah, it was so bizarre.
And he was one of my best friends and he won't talk to me.
joe rogan
He got mad that you didn't tell him about it?
nick swardson
Yeah, and it's been a year and he won't talk to me anymore.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Now, did he want you to stop it in some way?
nick swardson
I don't know.
I never found out.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
So, I could understand, like, if you told him, he would just get bummed out, right?
nick swardson
Well, that's the thing.
They were just watching a movie.
It wasn't like a...
But they weren't dating.
It was just really weird.
Anyway, my point being is that...
joe rogan
Listen, they watched a movie while you were around.
As soon as you got out of the room, there was a lot of sucking...
nick swardson
But it's like, it's like bad rogue friend that just gets fucking, you know, I just can't deal with drama.
Like when I go out, I don't want drama.
Nobody does.
joe rogan
I think what we were talking about earlier, how chimps have this horrific behavior, I think there's some of that that's left over in people.
And I think it comes out when you get involved in relationships and breakups.
I think you see that angry chimp come out sometimes.
nick swardson
Oh, yeah.
Alcohol is one of those things, obviously.
It affects people.
joe rogan
Not just even alcohol, it's just jealousy, too, though.
Just jealousy as well.
nick swardson
Yeah, but also, jealousy fueled with alcohol is a disaster.
Look at people that are in jail right now because they got drunk and got jealous and pulled out a gun or pulled out a baseball bat and just went...
joe rogan
And then add coke to that and you get confident.
Drunk, jealous, confident, crazed, righteous.
I'll show her.
Like, you're living in some stupid two-dimensional movie.
Like, you don't even think about the consequences.
nick swardson
Dude, I can't even...
Cocaine, I can't even do.
I never got really into it.
I mean, I definitely did it, but I was never one of those guys that was just...
I mean, I have friends still that go hard in the paint with that.
And they're, like, creeping into their 40s.
And there's still every weekend.
joe rogan
Duncan has a great bit on Adderall and cocaine that I wish I could share with the audience.
You'll have to go see him.
Duncan Trussell live in New York City.
nick swardson
Love you, Duncan.
joe rogan
Doing a lot of stand-up.
He moved.
He's happy there.
I'm very upset.
nick swardson
Does he like it?
joe rogan
I was hoping he hated it.
He's living in Brooklyn.
He's like the king of Brooklyn.
nick swardson
I can see him liking Brooklyn.
joe rogan
Yeah, they took him in.
They gave him fresh hats.
He's like, hey guys!
unidentified
Hey!
joe rogan
You guys are sweeties!
unidentified
Oh my god!
joe rogan
This is awesome!
This is amazing!
He did a recent podcast, folks, with Aubrey Marcus.
It's amazing.
It's really good.
His live podcasts are incredible.
Really good.
nick swardson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got a fucking cult.
Duncan's essentially running a cult.
nick swardson
He would be the best cult leader.
joe rogan
He has a house omer.
He has a guy who's like the House Om guy now.
The guy did Om, and did Om so good, and his name was like fucking Bobby something, like Shala Manga, some fucking ancient, you know, Swami Rick or something like that.
And this guy does an Om in front of his live audience, and it was so good.
He's like, will you be the House Om guy?
unidentified
Hey!
nick swardson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy's the House Om guy.
Every time Duncan does a show, that guy's going to do Om's for him.
unidentified
Om.
nick swardson
Good Lord.
joe rogan
He has a chant that he does.
We've done it before, like in audiences.
We started off a show with it once.
It didn't work.
It was a disaster.
It was a terrible idea.
We started off a show where we all got on stage and had the audience om, and then Duncan went and did stand-up.
But they were so weirded out by the om.
They were like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
nick swardson
That's so bizarre.
joe rogan
We did it a couple of times.
We did it a couple of times to bless the show.
nick swardson
Check out his Twitch channel, too.
jamie vernon
Duncan does a Twitch stream every so often.
joe rogan
What is he doing here?
jamie vernon
He's like James Corden dancing in some way, but he had a mask on and his girlfriend was holding a thing.
joe rogan
Of course.
nick swardson
It's pretty fun to watch.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's out of his mind.
nick swardson
Duncan wrote on my...
joe rogan
He's got a vagina mask.
Is that a vagina?
nick swardson
Looks like a vagina.
joe rogan
He's wearing a vagina mask.
nick swardson
I had my show on Comedy Central pretend time, a sketch show, and it was, like, really aggressive and weird.
So I was like, oh, Duncan, you gotta write on it.
So I brought Duncan on to write, and every sketch he would hand in, I was always like, alright, what the fuck is this gonna be?
And it was always so insane.
unidentified
He's like, no, like, you're playing, like, a pussy, and it, like, shits out, like, elves, and, like, the elves, like, Like to juggle knives and then they like eat each other's asses.
nick swardson
I was just like, don't duck in.
I would have to like adjust every sketch or try to find what is arable out of it.
But I mean there were like obviously moments of brilliance but sometimes I was like, dude what in the fuck is this?
joe rogan
What in the fuck indeed.
Nick Swartzen, don't change.
nick swardson
I won't.
joe rogan
You're beautiful.
nick swardson
Thank you.
joe rogan
And you play a good game of pool, sir.
And your show is still available.
People can see that.
nick swardson
Typical Rick.
Me and Dirt Nasty.
It's the guy who directed Grandma's Boy.
joe rogan
You're at the Comedy Store all the time.
You're touring all the time.
nick swardson
Getting ready for my new Netflix special coming out.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
When are you doing that?
nick swardson
I don't know yet.
It's going to be next spring, but it might be sooner because the sets are coming together.
All my dates are posted on real Nick Swartz on Instagram and Nick Swartz on Twitter.
unidentified
Website?
joe rogan
Do you have a website, or you just don't do that anymore?
nick swardson
The website's coming up.
We're developing it right now, so it'll be up soon.
But I'll post it on my social media, and then I got a bunch of dates up until Christmas.
joe rogan
Awesome.
nick swardson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, if you haven't seen Nick Live, it's fucking hilarious.
nick swardson
Thanks, dude.
joe rogan
And this was a lot of fun, man.
nick swardson
Yeah, brother, I love you, man.
joe rogan
How come we haven't done this in like six years?
unidentified
It's crazy.
nick swardson
I know, it's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
We see each other all the time.
We did a podcast six years ago.
Well, we did it.
Let's do it more often.
We'll do it more often.
I'm going to do the laser blast companion.
nick swardson
I'm for sure down for that.
joe rogan
That's going to happen.
So we'll do that as soon as we set up the new studio, which should be within the next month or so.
All right.
Thanks, everybody.
unidentified
Cheers.
joe rogan
See you tomorrow with Dorian Yates, former multiple-time Mr. Olympian, motherfuckers.
nick swardson
Mr. Olympian?
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