May 24, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Do do do do do do do do four three two one My brother and the man who got me in the Instagram if it wasn't for you I would have abandoned it remember Remember? | ||
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And I still got like 40,000 followers and you got like 4 million. | |
| I don't have that many. | ||
| I don't even think I have 2 million. | ||
| Do I have 2 million? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| You got me into it, man. | ||
| Sláinte. | ||
| Sláinte. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| You say that all the time. | ||
| Sláinte is like the Gaelic-Irish salute. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Sláinte. | |
| It's that. | ||
| Sláinte. | ||
| It's like S-L-A-I-N-T-E with one of them crazy marks on it. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| So Gaelic... | ||
| Gaelic is a fucking crazy language to read or try and pronounce some shit. | ||
| It'll be like, somebody's name will be Gary and it'll be spelt with like 17 letters. | ||
| Crucifixes and shit. | ||
| Crucifixes with the... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Crucifix with the circle. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I think it was among those ruins and shit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Dude, does anyone speak Gaelic? | ||
| Can you go have a conversation with someone in Gaelic? | ||
| Oh yeah, and Ireland people do, for sure. | ||
| So is it like... | ||
| I'm sure it's a dying, lost, kind of fading away thing, but you'll find pockets that definitely do. | ||
| It's fucking crazy when you stop to think about how many different languages there are. | ||
| Like, have you done much touring in Asia? | ||
| Really, only Japan. | ||
| I've never been to Korea, never been to China, never been to Indonesia or anything. | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| Indonesia? | ||
| Yeah, sort of Asia. | ||
| I've only been to Japan and only for a few days with the UFC. I love Japan, though, man. | ||
| Japan is my favorite. | ||
| Oh, it's amazing. | ||
| The people are so nice and polite, and it's fascinating how their culture works. | ||
| One of the reasons I love it so much, too, is it's like, you go to Europe, you don't feel foreign, necessarily. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's really the foreigner experience when you're there. | ||
| Like, I am the obvious outsider. | ||
| I'm taller than most people, and I'm Caucasian, you know, and there's a lot of places there. | ||
| Like, I'd try to go to, like, I'd get the lowdown on a sushi spot from somebody that I knew there, and then you'd go there and be like, oh, no, no, Kaijin, we don't serve y'all here. | ||
| Like, still places like that, you know what I mean? | ||
| When you try and get the down-low Anthony Bourdain treatment, like, if you ain't... | ||
| If you ain't Anthony Bourdain, you might not have no luck. | ||
| You don't show up at that 0.0 crew. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| They're so different than us in their culture that it's like this crazy immersion into an alternative world. | ||
| Japanese writing is so different than American writing. | ||
| Their language is so different than the sound of English that when you go there, you're like, wow. | ||
| I'm literally peering into... | ||
| Co-existing alternative world like what if every look of what if there was no? | ||
| Different languages. | ||
| It was just language like everybody knew what everybody spoke, right? | ||
| And your language was this the sounds that they make and the way they interpret things and the way they interpret things Shapes the way they look at reality. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's I mean It's a we're like our culture is in a lot of ways almost like an operating system. | ||
| I think Terrence McKenna I think it kind of makes sense. | ||
| It is like an operating system. | ||
| Yeah, we learn a basic set of parameters and rules that we all kind of, yeah, we're all individuals within it, but like, there's, you know, hey, you know, in this society, this is what's acceptable and this is what isn't, and here's how we peer it. | ||
| And then when you see something, like we were talking about this book, Dear Reader, Michael Malas, who was on yesterday, who was just an amazing podcast guest, but was talking to us about North Korea. | ||
| Like, that's a different, totally different operating system. | ||
| And that shit is going on right now. | ||
| Right now, there's like a whole country that's in prison. | ||
| Yeah, what's amazing to me is that that many people can be subdued in that manner. | ||
| Like, where's, you know... | ||
| You read throughout history, it's like, you know, people got sick and tired of some shit after a while and just bucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where are they? | ||
| What is going on there? | ||
| What mastery do these dudes have that... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I mean, look at that. | ||
| There's millions of people that are starving and still accept... | ||
| And this dude's living in his whatever, Golden Palace, whatever, kind of lifestyle. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And nobody's really, like... | ||
| Trying to revolutionize or start a revolution or buck up and make a coup would be a problem, because I think the old guys around them are even crazier. | ||
| Well, Malice was telling me why. | ||
| He was saying that the way their society is structured, everybody reports on everybody else about what you did wrong. | ||
| Like, if you and I were hanging out together, we'd be forced to report at the end of the day. | ||
| I would have to report on everything you did wrong. | ||
| Like, maybe you didn't cry long enough when something happened. | ||
| Maybe you didn't express enough grief. | ||
| There's rules to the way you grieve. | ||
| People who didn't grieve hard enough got six months of hard labor for not grieving hard enough when Kim Jong-il died. | ||
| So they tell on each other. | ||
| So they have this crazy culture of telling each other. | ||
| The podcast was fascinating, man. | ||
| That dude is a really, really interesting guy. | ||
| Scary. | ||
| That's a world that's happening right now. | ||
| It exists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And next door, South Korea, which is thriving. | ||
| And pop culture galore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy plastic surgery. | ||
| Those girls all get, not all of them, but a high percentage of girls get their eyes changed. | ||
| They get this crazy surgery that makes your eyelids, they shrink your eyelids so they don't have the Asian look. | ||
| Oh, they're trying for more of a round eye thing. | ||
| They're trying for more of an anime thing. | ||
| Oh, the big eye thing. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| I think I have, but I don't think it was an Asian girl. | ||
| I think I saw some girl on the internet who's trying to look really much... | ||
| Oh, I know what you're talking about. | ||
| She did look like a fucking anime character. | ||
| That's that Barbie lady, right? | ||
| The Barbie lady? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, there's people that go deep. | ||
| It's like, how do you think like that? | ||
| How's your brain working? | ||
| I mean, you're not looking in the mirror and seeing the same thing. | ||
| This is giving you satisfaction. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I think it's just body dysmorphia. | ||
| It's the same thing as a person who's a bodybuilder who just can't get big enough or a woman who can't get fake enough breasts. | ||
| They keep wanting to get bigger and bigger ones. | ||
| You don't see yourself how everybody else sees you. | ||
| It's almost like a disease. | ||
| And I think that... | ||
| It's always funny because I always thought I was a pretty fucking awesome dude. | ||
| Yeah, well, you have what's called self-esteem. | ||
| You should pull those pictures up. | ||
| So check out what they do. | ||
| See if you can see good ones. | ||
| Three reasons why one gin plastic surgery for eyelid surgery. | ||
| But show some before and afters. | ||
| I see a little one right there. | ||
| They're kind of crazy. | ||
| Some of them are kind of crazy. | ||
| They look like a totally different human. | ||
| If you went to high school with her, you'd be like, what? | ||
| Where... | ||
| That seems totally normal right there. | ||
| There's been some extreme ones. | ||
| But her whole face is different shaped at that point, the one you just passed. | ||
| There was more than just eyes done there, man. | ||
| It's interesting, though. | ||
| You're seeing that younger and younger. | ||
| Girls are having that kind of stuff done, too. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Whoa, damn. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| That one was very successful. | ||
| That was a good decision. | ||
| Yeah, that was an excellent decision. | ||
| But how do we know these are real, you know? | ||
| That's another thing. | ||
| We could be getting fucked with. | ||
| Holy shit, look at that one. | ||
| This is something I wanted to talk to you about. | ||
| How do we know? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| How do you know what the fuck is true anymore? | ||
| It's almost impossible to know. | ||
| Because everybody's mastered the half-truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I got a piece of the truth, and then I spin it the way I want to spin it, so a certain amount of people are going to see it that way. | ||
| That's how they've really... | ||
| I trip on this whole system right now. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about Trump, Clinton, any of that. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| They're all lying crooks, as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But... | ||
| Game on how they have blue states, reds. | ||
| We're like Bloods and Crips here. | ||
| And they're making it more like that every day. | ||
| Like the hatred between this blue and red. | ||
| It's like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| Yeah, it's like people who got along just six months ago are now at each other's throats. | ||
| And there used to be a thing when we were young. | ||
| When the new president was elected and he became president, we all kind of sat back and said, okay. | ||
| That's our president. | ||
| We're not even going to get into dude. | ||
| I'm talking just as a principal. | ||
| We all sat back and said, okay, let's give the guy a shot at least. | ||
| And again, I'm not even interested in getting into the individual in question. | ||
| That doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| It's like the minute this dude's president... | ||
| The next fucking campaign starts! | ||
| It's just fucking crazy! | ||
| Is it as crazy as I think it is, Joe? | ||
| Or am I just sitting at home in a dad world of taking care of these babies and going on tour and I just turn on the TV and it blows my fucking mind, dude. | ||
| It's blowing everybody's mind, man. | ||
| I mean, there's a weird line that's happening now, too, and this isn't really even a criticism, but Newsweek had an article that they tweeted, and the article shows how Melina rejects Trump's hand. | ||
| Which was kind of awesome. | ||
| I saw it. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Slapped it away. | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| It is kind of. | ||
| But who knows what's going on. | ||
| Maybe she gets public anxiety and she doesn't like holding hands when she walks. | ||
| It doesn't necessarily have to mean anything. | ||
| The fact that it's a fucking story that Newsweek tweets out is strange. | ||
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I think CNN had it on, I believe. | |
| They've got a whole article after hand swat. | ||
| I mean, this is nothing. | ||
| It's like they touch hands for a second. | ||
| Back it up again. | ||
| I'm no Trump supporter here, but look, Newsweek, I'm not. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I don't think there's anything wrong with what you're doing. | ||
| I don't think there's anything wrong with putting this up. | ||
| I watched it. | ||
| I'm glad you put it up. | ||
| I'm not criticizing. | ||
| That's why they put it up, because you would watch it. | ||
| It's not news, though. | ||
| I'm not criticizing. | ||
| We are all part of the biggest reality TV show ever created in the universe now. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like... | ||
| And Donald Trump is the host. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like... | ||
| And this man is actually living out his goddamn fantasy right now. | ||
| We have all given this guy... | ||
| And again, I'm not even going to say hate, love, whatever. | ||
| Fuck them all. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| But this dude is like... | ||
| He's the king of the fucking universe in his mind right now. | ||
| There's nobody who can fucking touch him, and that's why the show is going to get so hilarious. | ||
| It's just going to be great. | ||
| Well, I think he's not that stupid. | ||
| He's aware that there's been a lot of criticism, and he's trying to iron things out. | ||
| But what he's doing is he's taking this approach that he's made, become this real estate magnate, this big tycoon, big businessman, which is like, he was always this... | ||
| Rambunctious sort of flamboyant personality, right? | ||
| He always put his name and gold letters on these buildings and we didn't mind that when he wasn't running the country Just when you run the country and you start doing the same stuff like the criticism that he's getting is kind of You can't kind of do the same thing when you're the president you can't like talk about how shows are number one It's a bigger than yourself thing. | ||
| It's a bigger than yourself thing. | ||
| You just nailed it. | ||
| In fact, you have to let go of self To a certain degree. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| To be a good one. | ||
| And I'm not going to say one guy's been better than the other. | ||
| We all know. | ||
| We have our opinions on that shit. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And honestly, I grew up in an age where politics and religion, if it was going to be bad news, you didn't bring it up with people you liked. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And now it's just... | ||
| The hatred I see, like even from people I respect. | ||
| The red and white, red and blue hatred. | ||
| Yeah, they cripping and blooding out here hard, man. | ||
| Hard for their parties, and it's stupid because none of them care about you. | ||
| None of them want anything from you but more of your tax money, no matter how much they're going to tell you they're going to cut your taxes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They're going to find a way to fucking get that money. | ||
| They might make it look good to you, but hey, guess what, middle class family, $36,000 or whatever. | ||
| Here's... | ||
| Two grand, you don't have to pay in taxes a year, which seems a lot when you're in that level of living, you know what I mean? | ||
| I blow that on fucking sneakers, I'm ashamed to say. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But the point is they don't give a fuck because they just stole it out the back end of your healthcare or they just took it off the top of not rebuilding all the roads. | ||
| This is their game. | ||
| They run the game. | ||
| And so these motherfuckers come up with some shit where money comes out of the politics. | ||
| I don't respect any of it. | ||
| I would like to think that some of them have your best interests in mind that there's just a crazy competitive system and that we maybe Maybe it's just what the system makes. | ||
| The system kind of makes corruption because of lobbyists, because of the way it's set up. | ||
| It's almost like you can't pull it out of it. | ||
| I totally agree with you that there's plenty of good ones. | ||
| But it's just like cops. | ||
| I know a lot of cops and they're all good guys. | ||
| I think there's more good cops than there's politicians. | ||
| But when the shitstorms pop up, they don't buck out and say, you know what, that was wrong and go against what the group of... | ||
| Cops or politicians is saying, either one. | ||
| I could be either one. | ||
| They side even in wrong times when they shouldn't. | ||
| Where are those voices? | ||
| I want to hear them. | ||
| Don't you think there's way more good cops than there are politicians? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| But my point is there's a code. | ||
| There's a code. | ||
| And that good cop We'll fucking not shit on a bad cop. | ||
| Maybe he won't back him, but there's a time when you gotta shit on that thing or that person or that act. | ||
| And there's this code in politicians and cops where they don't call out the bullshit. | ||
| And that's where I lose all the respect for everything. | ||
| It's like, yo, and I just sit back. | ||
| I'm on some Carlin shit, man. | ||
| I got a front row seat to the freak show. | ||
| I'm gonna watch it go down. | ||
| You're asking them to do the impossible job. | ||
| You're asking them to be around violence and lying and danger, and they're the enemy. | ||
| You're asking them to be the professional enemy to professional criminals. | ||
| That's what you're asking them to do all the time. | ||
| And so, like, there's a reason why they bond together like that, because they're all in the war together, and it's us and them. | ||
| And it's we on the outside. | ||
| I don't think we understand what the fuck they go through. | ||
| That's why they have this bond with each other. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| You wouldn't want that. | ||
| You really would want that. | ||
| But there comes a time, and there's been a few of them lately in recent history, where there should have been an overwhelming condemnation by a smaller group of that group's actions. | ||
| A perfect example is that Eric Gardner case in New York, where they choked that guy who was just selling cigarettes. | ||
| They didn't have to do that. | ||
| There was no reason to do that. | ||
| That guy didn't even have any cigarettes on him. | ||
| The whole thing was fucked up. | ||
| They were saying he wasn't complying. | ||
| Why should he comply? | ||
| He wasn't doing anything. | ||
| You can't choke a guy who's just hanging out. | ||
| And when you asked the video, was he not complying enough to die? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, I think the dude had like an asthma attack or something, but obviously it was provoked. | ||
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But I think they also had a fucking bar. | |
| They did. | ||
| They had a choke. | ||
| It was a weak-ass choke, though. | ||
| It was more like, honestly, I mean, it was a choke hold, but it was more like the way he was applying it was like a restraining thing more than it was, I want to see it. | ||
| Let me see it again. | ||
| Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. | ||
| But without a doubt, the forearm is under the neck. | ||
| Like, if I was calling it in a fight, I would say, this guy's getting choked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, honestly, let's not even go down the road, but the point of this conversation, I believe, was just saying like, oh, that overwhelming larger number of good folks, whether it's cops, politicians, soldiers, whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I do believe that exists, that the majority of them are decent, good people. | ||
| But when the shit hits the fan, they don't collectively say, that's wrong and that's fucked up. | ||
| No, they all band together and say, alright, we'll try and bury this and hide it or just deny it. | ||
| And that, as a group, loses you respect when People that are interested in justice and interested in fair play and interested in that see these things happen. | ||
| They lose faith. | ||
| And I think there's no faith in anything right now. | ||
| The way I see the division in this country, there's no faith in anything. | ||
| I'm hoping it's just a wave and it's going to come back. | ||
| It will. | ||
| I mean, that's what I'm thinking, that we're going to react to how crazy we are. | ||
| I just hope it doesn't come back in really fucked up ways. | ||
| Sometimes when that wave crashes, it breaks shit. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, it shouldn't. | ||
| The problem is it's so easy to think that we're against each other. | ||
| It's so easy to dig your heels in and argue one side or argue the other or pick a team and be totally committed to it. | ||
| Whether it's red, blue, or whether it's black, white, people get on these goddamn teams. | ||
| We do it men and women. | ||
| Did you see it? | ||
| It gets real divisive online with people separating men and women, like criticizing men, all men in general, criticizing women, all women in general. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's the same shit. | ||
| It exists, whether it's Democrat versus Republican, it's the same shit. | ||
| Vegans versus carnivores, it's the same shit. | ||
| People pick a fucking team and they fight for it, and they think they're right, and they have many, many good reasons for thinking they're right. | ||
| But I think All of us are way better off if we're taught about these team ideas early and recognize when you see them in yourself and do some self-governing and avoid those. | ||
| Avoid those and we'll find common ground on a lot more shit than we think. | ||
| It's pretty much, we can sum that up, but think for yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially when you're bombarded the way we are now. | ||
| That's another thing about how we started this conversation is how do you know what the fuck is really true? | ||
| If you really want to know what the fuck is true or at least get a good semblance of it, you have to look at more than one fucking thing. | ||
| If you read some story on Facebook that outrages you and fucking makes you so pissed off, maybe it was intended to do that. | ||
| Maybe you should go look further. | ||
| Look down the road. | ||
| Look at a paper you would never look at. | ||
| I like to look when I get interested in the news, which isn't as much as it used to be because I have my own things, which I'm sure we'll get into. | ||
| I try to be like, all right. | ||
| CNN is on at my studio a lot without the sound because we'll be making music and whatnot. | ||
| And mostly I just read the ticker because if you know nowadays, news is on the ticker. | ||
| Opinions are what are coming out the fucking speakers when the personalities are talking. | ||
| News is just the facts that roll, scroll along down on the bottom, and there's some spin on it and whatnot, but I try not to listen to the talking heads, because They, you know, Fox has two pro-Democrat guys that no matter what the Democrats do, they're gonna defend it, and CNN has a couple of Trump guys that no matter what goes on. | ||
| It's a game. | ||
| It's a game. | ||
| It's all a game. | ||
| It's a television show. | ||
| I was watching it not too long ago when CNN came on after a commercial and the studio was lit up red and Korean stars were everywhere and there was nuclear missile launches like pictures in the background. | ||
| And I was like, oh my god, what the fuck is going on? | ||
| Did they just launch missiles? | ||
| And nothing like it had happened. | ||
| They were just discussing the possibility of the future of if they got a missile that was capable. | ||
| And people are tuned into this shit. | ||
| Like I said, it's on in the background because I just, God forbid that breaking news, you want to know. | ||
| I mean, it's reality TV, honestly. | ||
| And again, it's what we're talking about. | ||
| People acting as groups. | ||
| And I ain't acting above it either. | ||
| I watch it. | ||
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I see it. | |
| It's entertaining to me. | ||
| Deeper self-brain, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| The whiskey's starting to fucking talk to me right now. | ||
| That has a conscience. | ||
| My conscience, my soul, you know, evaluates why I'm being entertained by it and finds it disturbing a lot. | ||
| And wants to say, like, hey man, we should all fucking take a step back. | ||
| And I love you because the love shit... | ||
| I mean, I've always had love in my life. | ||
| I've been a very fortunate man, but like, coming in here as grown men, and when I first started doing your podcast, you would always be preaching love, and you know, I mean, Joe Rogan's a tough guy. | ||
| He kicked the shit out of 90% of the fucking people around. | ||
| He's not interested in it. | ||
| He just wants to love. | ||
| Your life is better if you just have a bunch of people you care about. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It started me down a path, dude, where I was like, I've explored almost every religion. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| There is. | ||
| And I don't really practice any, but I have a philosophy that's taken its own good parts from all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And lately I've been reading a lot of Buddhist stuff. | ||
| I'm not a Buddhist at all, but like this Thich Nhat Hanh guy and a few other things I've been reading. | ||
| But these things are also kind of started here. | ||
| Because connecting with you in a weird way made me open my mind up. | ||
| There's a lot of things we don't think alike at all on. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But that doesn't fucking matter. | ||
| I like talking to people that I don't necessarily agree with, but I respect. | ||
| That's some of my favorite conversations. | ||
| That's the best kind. | ||
| And that's the point of what they're trying to keep from happening in this world. | ||
| Just this whole online shit. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of great things that have happened from this, but this social networking shit is anything but social. | ||
| We're working it out. | ||
| It's anything but social. | ||
| Well, for a lot of people, it's just way too distracting. | ||
| It's a lot of wicked, evil, just venom. | ||
| Every once in a while, I'll cater in and I'll let a dude know online, like, hey, motherfucker. | ||
| You really don't know. | ||
| That's, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, hey, whatever. | ||
| You really don't know. | ||
| IP addresses are easy to, you know what I mean? | ||
| That kind of shit. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Nine times out of ten, when I do fuck up that rare occasion, it's a Joe Rogan fan that's like, hey, man, take the high road, dude. | ||
| Ask Joe. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And I'll be like, oh, fuck, yeah, I should. | ||
| All right, you're right. | ||
| And boom, that's over. | ||
| That kind of thing, you know what I mean? | ||
| This show has been like a real serious, not just a show, you, me and you having a little friendship. | ||
| Because I've hung out with you a lot since. | ||
| It's been three years. | ||
| We've hung out a lot, though. | ||
| That's what was weird. | ||
| We're trying to figure it out. | ||
| We're like, why does it not feel like three years? | ||
| Let me explain three years now since... | ||
| I couldn't come in for a while. | ||
| And I explained this to you on the phone and when we hung out a couple of times. | ||
| My mother was passing from Alzheimer's. | ||
| And then when she did pass, it's like I was emotionally incapable. | ||
| I couldn't even have said those words. | ||
| I would have been a blubbering idiot on your show. | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| I'm sure. | ||
| And, you know, whatever. | ||
| Some people might have been like, hey, that would have been great radio. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| You were the one that said, hey, get your shit together. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Because I wanted to come in and be able to talk about it. | ||
| Well, I don't think I said it like that. | ||
| That would be like, yo, get your shit together. | ||
| So your mom's dead. | ||
| Nah, nah, nah. | ||
| Whatever, bro. | ||
| It's us talking. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| That's how I said it. | ||
| I know what you mean. | ||
| But it would be more like, please take your time. | ||
| It was the last... | ||
| Four years, probably. | ||
| Started probably the last, right before I stopped, the last time I came on the show, there was like a big lawsuit over Jump Around that I actually wound up winning, but like, it froze money that I depend on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, mailbox money, we call that. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Those checks that just kind of come in, you know, Jump Around's been really good to me. | ||
| Dude, Jump Around is one of my favorite hip-hop songs of all time. | ||
| It's 25th anniversary this year, the whole first album, so, but, point being, so that got froze up. | ||
| I got a little weirded out when I first started hanging out with you because I was such a fan of that song. | ||
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Right. | |
| I was like, I can't believe I know this dude. | ||
| I remember you were weirded out when I lit a joint in the club in Vegas. | ||
| And you were like, what are you doing? | ||
| I was like, what do you mean, what am I doing? | ||
| I'm lighting a joint. | ||
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No, let me explain how it went down. | |
| Everlast goes, he goes, you want to get high? | ||
| I go, fuck yeah. | ||
| And I go, where do you want to go? | ||
| He goes, go. | ||
| He goes, yo, we ain't going nowhere. | ||
| He just lights the joint up. | ||
| But he looks at me like sideways, like, go! | ||
| Sparks it right in the club. | ||
| And I was like, oh, this is hilarious. | ||
| And that was that night. | ||
| Wasn't that that same night that you performed on stage? | ||
| And there was a bunch of musicians that had never worked together on stage. | ||
| Dave Navarro was there. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no, they had Camp Freddy. | ||
| They had, like, a band where they just did a bunch of covers. | ||
| And I remember being fucked up. | ||
| And they were calling. | ||
| Weren't they calling me a bunch of times, though? | ||
| You got on stage! | ||
| Everlast is in the house, right? | ||
| Like three or four times before I wound up. | ||
| Did you do what it's like? | ||
| Did what it's like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, that was a fucking great night. | ||
| High and drunk as fuck. | ||
| That's us. | ||
| Oh, we're barbecued. | ||
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There we go. | |
| Oh my God, I can't see my eyes. | ||
| That's exactly the spot we were smoking the joint in, too, right? | ||
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That's exactly where it was, man. | |
| I just never remember you looking at me sideways and going, go. | ||
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Go. | |
| Where the fuck am I going? | ||
| Go. | ||
| What, am I hiding in the bathroom and smoke a joint? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| I tip way too good for that bullshit. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| Especially in Vegas. | ||
| If any place in the world you're going to be an outlandish tipper, be there because you'll get away with murder. | ||
| Almost literally. | ||
| The valets will say, like, alright, yo, the cops are on their way. | ||
| You better get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Um, sure. | ||
| They want to keep them chives coming. | ||
| Cops are coming whether you like it or not. | ||
| Imagine being a cop in Vegas. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| No, regardless. | ||
| How many people do they have down there robbing casinos and shit? | ||
| Crazy movie-style heists. | ||
| Crackheads, meth heads. | ||
| With masks on and machine guns and shit taking over casinos. | ||
| Oh, I was talking about... | ||
| So my money got froze, so I was having to bust my ass crazy hard on the road trying to make up the difference for a while. | ||
| And then my mother started going way downhill kind of fast over two years. | ||
| It's like dealing with that. | ||
| Anybody going through that is... | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of things that go on in my life that get my heart sent out to those people. | ||
| But watching somebody you love just... | ||
| Disappear. | ||
| It was tough, man. | ||
| Yeah, the perspective, right? | ||
| It changes your perspective. | ||
| You realize that this is how it ends. | ||
| I had a lot of guilt involved because with a kid with CF, I couldn't have my mom in home with a nurse and any infections that she could, you know, she was getting lung infections all the time. | ||
| So I had her in a home, a really beautiful home. | ||
| They took a magnificent care of my mother, but there was a lot of guilt. | ||
| I was freaking for a while, like, with a lot of darkness that I was swimming through. | ||
| And it just wasn't good for me to come through. | ||
| And then... | ||
| You know, and then after she passed and like Layla's just been like learning, you know, I'm only just me and my wife now. | ||
| It's she's seven years old. | ||
| And I think I'm not saying we got anything licked or cut, but like the life we have to live. | ||
| We've been able to figure out... | ||
| With her cystic fibrosis. | ||
| Yes, with the cystic fibrosis. | ||
| I mean, it's heavy. | ||
| There's a lot of shit you gotta worry about. | ||
| Infections and any common cold. | ||
| It's like so much pressure on a person. | ||
| To do that. | ||
| My wife and I, I won't fucking make it funny. | ||
| We've been very close to the brink a few times, but we finally got into a stage where it's like, no, none of that's going to break us. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| We're good. | ||
| And we're good. | ||
| And we're good in this life. | ||
| And we accept where we are. | ||
| And we're going to make sure this young lady is going to make it. | ||
| As deep and as far into this life as she can, you know? | ||
| There's been some medical innovations, too, right? | ||
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Haven't there? | |
| They're working on some stuff, man. | ||
| There's a couple drugs that aren't quite for her yet, because this drug has, on the DNA level of the chain, there's mutations. | ||
| Layla has two different mutations. | ||
| One's called the Delta F... 508, I believe it is. | ||
| You got me high and a little drunk here. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| People who know know. | ||
| It's easy to find out. | ||
| That's the most common one, like the Delta 508. And then she has this other weird kind of offshoot one. | ||
| Some people have what they call a double Delta. | ||
| There's a drug right now that's really working well for the people with the double Delta. | ||
| They're starting to experiment on it for people with the single. | ||
| Now, does she have to be on a special diet? | ||
| The only diet we just need her, they have a problem gaining weight. | ||
| Cystic fibrosis, they don't process fats properly. | ||
| They have to take enzymes with everything they eat. | ||
| So gaining weight is a real serious issue. | ||
| Layla actually has a G-tube, a feeding tube that she gets six protein shakes a day pumped into her stomach. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Again, my daughter very rarely is down about this. | ||
| She'll have her moments, don't get me wrong, where it's like frustration and anger over her. | ||
| This is life. | ||
| She's never known anything else. | ||
| So it's like at the same time, like we post a lot about it. | ||
| We made that decision. | ||
| Layla has her own page. | ||
| People are free to try and follow it. | ||
| If my wife will approve you, if you can get by the security clearance. | ||
| Her thing is Layla, L-A-I-L-A, beauty09. | ||
| She wanted her own page because we started. | ||
| I've never posted anything without asking her. | ||
| Even when she was barely able to understand, I tried to be like, can I post this picture? | ||
| A lot of people will see it. | ||
| And she would say, okay, daddy. | ||
| And now she's sharp. | ||
| And about a year or so ago, she was like, I want my own Instagram page. | ||
| I want to share my life, like cystic fibrosis with people. | ||
| And so she's doing that. | ||
| And this is May, actually, is Cystic Fibrosis Awareness Month. | ||
| So we've been posting. | ||
| And she happened to be in the hospital the last 10 days. | ||
| She's home right now, recovering. | ||
| I sent you an article on assisted fibrosis treatment. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| It was a while ago. | ||
| I don't know, but my wife and I are... | ||
| Did it involve CBDs? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Because a few people have sent me things and we're investigating some stuff on that level right now because... | ||
| There are a lot of good things going along with this because it's one of the best anti-inflammatories there are with no side effects and all kinds of stuff. | ||
| We're not using it on my daughter yet, but we're investigating what kind of uses there are. | ||
| I forget. | ||
| I might have to go back through my emails or whatnot and see what you saw. | ||
| I remember you did send me something. | ||
| I don't remember if it was CBDs or stem cells or some shit. | ||
| All levels right now, there are a lot of levels. | ||
| They're working on the stem cell level. | ||
| There's a lot of things going on where it's like if they can correct things on a cellular level at some point, it's going to be... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's never going to be a cure. | ||
| It's a genetic disease. | ||
| So you can't say cure in that sense. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like the way it works is the two people that father the child have to each have the gene. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So me and my wife are known as what are known as carriers, which we never knew because we've searched our whole history after we found out nobody in my family's ever, ever had this. | ||
| Nobody in her family's ever, ever had this. | ||
| But we're known as what's carriers. | ||
| So when we got together and we had a child, there's a one in four chance that child's gonna have cystic fibrosis. | ||
| There's a two in four chance they're gonna be a carrier. | ||
| There's a one in four chance they have nothing at all, which is our other daughter, Sadie. | ||
| So we kind of represent the whole spectrum, like our family, you know, Layla, her mom, me, and Sadie. | ||
| Which is another reason I'm not having six kids, because I love being a dad, but it's like two cystic fibrosis children in the same household is even, and a lot of people do it, It's hard because they pass infections and it's very... | ||
| I can't even imagine how the people with multiple two or three kids with cystic fibrosis pull it off. | ||
| Hats off. | ||
| Because I know what it's like with just one. | ||
| That's gotta be... | ||
| It must be changing you as a person. | ||
| Think about how much more compassionate this has made you and how much more appreciative of health. | ||
| I've had to also accept and learn how to deal with a lot of anger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of anger. | ||
| I consider myself a pretty spiritual person. | ||
| Like I said, I've explored a lot of religions. | ||
| I find religions confining. | ||
| I believe in a greater power, a greater high, whatever. | ||
| Something bigger than us. | ||
| I kind of believe in that. | ||
| Whether you want to call it God or just our connected collective energy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Whatever it might be. | ||
| Somewhere in between there lies something greater than us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I felt, for another reason the last three years, is... | ||
| What's the captain's name in Forrest Gump? | ||
| Captain Ed? | ||
| Or no, Captain... | ||
| Lieutenant Dan. | ||
| Lieutenant Dan. | ||
| For the last couple years, I'm Lieutenant Dan on the top of that fucking sailboat. | ||
| Like, fuck you. | ||
| This is what you're going to do to this little kid. | ||
| Watching my child suffer. | ||
| There's huge injustices in the world. | ||
| And let me tell you another thing. | ||
| Having to take my daughter to children's hospitals all the time, I see people that have it worse. | ||
| Do you know Penn Jillette? | ||
| Oh yeah, I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I don't know him personally, but I'm a huge fan. | ||
| He's a great dude, but one of the things he said to me that I'll never forget, he was talking about The Secret. | ||
| Do you remember when The Secret was this big movie, and it was about the law of attraction, and people were going to manifest their own destiny, and they were going to make it happen, and everything in your life, you created in your mind. | ||
| And he was like, fuck you! | ||
| You're telling a young, sick kid that she made that herself? | ||
| She made herself have leukemia? | ||
| She made herself have cancer? | ||
| You're telling me that? | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Yeah, fuck you. | ||
| And when he said that, I was like, wow, I never thought about it that way. | ||
| But he's totally right. | ||
| That's exactly what it is. | ||
| Like, you can't, that's ridiculous. | ||
| You're dealing with a bunch of people that have become successful and told you why. | ||
| Because I saw it happening. | ||
| What about the people that saw it happening and it didn't happen? | ||
| This is bullshit. | ||
| Which are a far greater number, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, it's a part of life. | ||
| It's not the whole key to manufacturing a life. | ||
| It's an excellent, like being a positive person, being healthy, having a good vision and focus. | ||
| All those things are like contributing factors. | ||
| But kids that are sick are the monkey wrench in any idea that we've created our own reality. | ||
| You can't make a baby responsible for cancer. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You also can't make a God responsible for, like, God has a plan. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Sometimes there's not a fucking plan. | ||
| Sometimes there's a glitch in the goddamn matrix, and you just gotta deal with it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You gotta handle it. | ||
| And the more important thing for me... | ||
| The second most important thing in my life, other than keeping Layla as healthy as possible, is making sure she knows that she can still achieve... | ||
| She's at an age now where she kind of... | ||
| I'm not trying to have her hate me in 10 years if she ever hears this for giving up her business, but she's in a stage right now where she's very resentful of... | ||
| She expresses it well. | ||
| She'll say, I hate this. | ||
| I hate that I have this. | ||
| I just want to be normal. | ||
| I just want to have a normal life. | ||
| And it fucking rips your heart out, man. | ||
| But you can't... | ||
| You have to say, hey, hey, you are normal. | ||
| This is your life. | ||
| Your life is normal. | ||
| It's like Carlin... | ||
| I'm a big Carlin guy. | ||
| I know you're a studied student of it. | ||
| But it's like he had his routine where it's like... | ||
| About being homemade or all natural. | ||
| He's like, everything's fucking all natural. | ||
| No matter what you do with it, it's all fucking natural. | ||
| And that's kind of how I try to approach it. | ||
| It's like, you are normal. | ||
| This is your normal life. | ||
| You're not any better or worse. | ||
| There's fights people fight that you don't even see, Layla. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| Yours is obvious. | ||
| Yours is right here in front of you to fight. | ||
| Some people are gonna fight demons they'll never meet. | ||
| Yeah, there's a phrase on that. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Comparison is the enemy of happiness. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm fucking gonna use that joke. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm gonna look it up, and I'm gonna find out where it comes from. | ||
| Yeah, find out whose quote that was. | ||
| Comparison is the enemy of happiness. | ||
| I really like that. | ||
| That's a very useful sentence. | ||
| You should get inspiration from other people, but comparison is not really healthy. | ||
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Who is it? | |
| Theodore Roosevelt said, comparison is the thief of joy. | ||
| Oh, perfect. | ||
| That's even more eloquent. | ||
| Probably me. | ||
| I probably fucked it up. | ||
| But that's even better. | ||
| Goddamn Theodore Roosevelt. | ||
| You bad motherfucker. | ||
| He was a badass motherfucker, man. | ||
| Bad motherfucker. | ||
| Charging up the hill in San Juan. | ||
| All that shit, man. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Comparison. | ||
| Talking about the first Roosevelt, Theodore. | ||
| The other one was... | ||
| Well, this is the guy that made the... | ||
| He set aside the National Park system. | ||
| He set aside, like, Theodore Roosevelt is the reason why we have the Grand Canyon. | ||
| Which our current guy is trying to fucking dismantle. | ||
| Not the Grand Canyon. | ||
| I know Cam can't be happy about that shit. | ||
| No, everybody's upset about it. | ||
| Shout out to Cam! | ||
| What up, Cam? | ||
| He's in Alberta right now. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I see him giving you a hard time, Cam, and he's so nice. | ||
| He's the nicest guy ever. | ||
| He's nice. | ||
| People threaten him. | ||
| He just, hey, look, this guy's threatening me. | ||
| Would I threaten you? | ||
| I wouldn't threaten you, and I could probably kill you. | ||
| But I wouldn't eat you. | ||
| That's why I won't kill you. | ||
| It's a lot of people in other countries, man. | ||
| A lot of people that get mad about his hunting pictures, they're from some other country. | ||
| A lot of them are from South America. | ||
| Cam, you're going to be a god when the electricity all goes out. | ||
| They're going to be coming to you, man. | ||
| They're going to be coming to you. | ||
| He'll be happy as fuck. | ||
| And I need a recommendation on a beginner bow. | ||
| I can hook you up. | ||
| Oh, there we go. | ||
| Joe's a bowman now. | ||
| Dude, I'll get Hoyt to send you one. | ||
| You really want to learn? | ||
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Yes. | |
| That would be the shit. | ||
| I do. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, next time I'm hanging out with John Dudley, I'll have him come and coach you, and we'll make a little video. | ||
| Let me know. | ||
| Maybe I can attend. | ||
| Maybe I can jump in. | ||
| I want him to coach you and teach you how to shoot. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| That would be perfect. | ||
| We'll do it. | ||
| We'll make that happen. | ||
| We'll make that happen. | ||
| Yeah, so that's three years, kind of a condensed Reader's Digest version, as I emotionally was unprepared to be here and hang out and have fun. | ||
| I would have been like the... | ||
| I would've been the episode that everybody's like, oh, you gotta hear this heart-wrenching fucking, oh my god. | ||
| Well, it's heart-wrenching now, man, but I'm glad she's doing better. | ||
| No, but it's heart-wrenching, but I can stand here like a man and be like, look, I've been through it. | ||
| You didn't want to see me, and it's like, you didn't want to see me cowering in the foxhole. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Now the battle's over, it's like, Yeah, I cowered in the foxhole for a little while, but then we got out and we won the battle. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's where I wanted to be before I came. | ||
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I understand. | |
| And I know I didn't need anything to promote, but all of a sudden it's like I did this free project and I was like, I really just put it out and my fans have found it, but the response has been so good behind it. | ||
| It's like, I want to get this out there a little further. | ||
| So it gave me an excuse to be like, I think it's time for me to be on the podcast again. | ||
| And if you want to buy a CD, they still make CDs. | ||
| No, you can buy these maybe at our shows. | ||
| If we bring them there. | ||
| And we charge basically what they cost us to make them and ship them wherever we got to take them. | ||
| And try reading that shit. | ||
| Yeah, you can't read it. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| It's fucking gangster calligraphy. | ||
| Shout out to Big Sleeps. | ||
| Shout out to Big Sleeps. | ||
| Whenever you can say, shout out to Big Sleeps, you win. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
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Shout out to Big Sleeps for the calligraphy. | |
| That's gangster stuff. | ||
| If you can't read it, you weren't built to read it. | ||
| That's all it means. | ||
| I get it now that you've explained it. | ||
| I can read it now. | ||
| It's like, just picture like old school, old English calligraphy, and then mixed with gangster letters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you can see it. | ||
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I struggle with the R-N. Because it comes back up. | |
| Like, it comes down, and then it, bang, bang. | ||
| That's his artistic, that's art, man. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Let me explain this project. | ||
| I think he might have made up a letter. | ||
| That end seems to me like a made up letter. | ||
| That's some Gaelic shit. | ||
| It's just old school. | ||
| That N is actually pretty old schooled English. | ||
| Old English. | ||
| Do you know what that is, Jamie? | ||
| Does that look like an N to you? | ||
| At the N? Yes. | ||
| That looks cool. | ||
| That looks like an N to you? | ||
| Where do you see the N? The N here. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
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That's not the R? Here's the N. But where's the fucking R? Here's the N. The R is this. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| That's the R. That's the N. Here's your loop. | ||
| Here's this. | ||
| And then it just comes down. | ||
| Alright. | ||
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Let's see. | |
| Listen, it all looks beautiful. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| First of all, I don't give a flying fuck. | ||
| First of all, if you can't read it, that's why it's art, alright? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And it's gangster shit. | ||
| I wish I was an artist. | ||
| If you go to Pico Union, those guys will read that shit like it's easy. | ||
| They'll be like, oh yeah, that says war porn. | ||
| Oh, that's hilarious. | ||
| But the point is, I was struggling to make my next singer-songwriter-ish hip-hop. | ||
| I was kind of revisiting the Whitey Ford formula a little bit and expanding on it. | ||
| But I got kind of stuck halfway through. | ||
| Because I was just... | ||
| After all of this... | ||
| Stuff that I went through, I thought it would be smart to just... | ||
| I kind of... | ||
| Another thing about cystic fibrosis, it's really isolating because you get really protective of your child and other people who are sick. | ||
| I mean, I remember at first I used to come and be like, everybody's going to be all right at the studio, right? | ||
| Nobody's sick. | ||
| I mean, you know what I mean? | ||
| I trust you now. | ||
| I know it's like, if you were sick, you'd tell me. | ||
| But you still, you live that life, and after a while you get tired of asking your friends every five seconds, and so the invitations to hang out become a little less. | ||
| It's not an intentional thing. | ||
| It's this slow kind of isolation of yourself. | ||
| My friends didn't do it to me, I did it to myself. | ||
| And I'm coming out of that now, like I'm hanging out with a lot of my old friends and seeing things, which is great. | ||
| So like I was stuck in the studio was just me and like an engineer kid who I Had a guy that worked for me for many years who moved up north and then I I had this new guy who I who's good at his job But it was like I there was no but you're kind of your own boss, right? | ||
| So how do you decide when you're gonna go into the studio? | ||
| How do you decide when you're gonna write just well because I don't know how you think about life because we don't live by the paycheck rules, you know what I mean we So I'm thinking six months out I know I'm good probably right now. | ||
| I could sit on my ass for a year before cash ran out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let alone other stuff. | ||
| But I'm always thinking six months, alright? | ||
| If I'm creating something now that's going to generate... | ||
| You're writing your next stuff for whatever your next special is going to be. | ||
| What do you get out? | ||
| One of those? | ||
| Two of those a year? | ||
| Like a solid hour? | ||
| When I boil it down, after two years, it's like a real good hour and ten minutes, usually. | ||
| So that's what I'm saying. | ||
| So you're thinking on kind of that time level. | ||
| You're like, I'm working this out to get to this point. | ||
| That's what my schedule is now. | ||
| Every two years. | ||
| Anybody who follows my career, whether it was House of Pain or Everlast, it's like, I've never been this. | ||
| Like, some cats are like clockwork with their product. | ||
| Every year, every year and a half, there's an album. | ||
| Bang, boom, boom. | ||
| Me, I've had two-year intervals, three-year intervals, four-year intervals. | ||
| Never a one-year interval. | ||
| I'm never that guy. | ||
| I have to be inspired. | ||
| But I know if I'm not creating something at some time... | ||
| The show money, which is what I live off of now, basically, besides the mailbox stuff, gets smaller. | ||
| You don't even have to have a hit at my stage of career. | ||
| I don't need hits. | ||
| I just need new material. | ||
| I got something to promote that gives a promoter in Europe. | ||
| I do a lot of work in Europe. | ||
| I do more work in Europe than I do here. | ||
| Do you really? | ||
| Yeah, way more. | ||
| I'm about to be six weeks in Europe. | ||
| I got to leave literally the day after tomorrow. | ||
| That's a long time. | ||
| First I go to Napa, actually. | ||
| I got a festival in Napa, and then I come home for a day, and then I go to Europe for six weeks. | ||
| Napa's a trip. | ||
| I do well in pockets in the United States, and there's a lot of places, like the South, I think I would do great, but I've never gone. | ||
| Promoters don't know what it is. | ||
| I don't chase it. | ||
| I hope I'm not all over this. | ||
| I've never chased this. | ||
| I've never ran it down. | ||
| I'm where I am because I just looked at the signs on the road and said, oh, go that way. | ||
| And I go there. | ||
| I'm not the guy who thinks I'm the worst social media. | ||
| I got 40,000 fucking Instagram followers. | ||
| I've sold millions and millions of records. | ||
| I don't try. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| I get extreme amounts of joy. | ||
| I think we talked about this on the first podcast I ever did, that my music is more famous than my face. | ||
| Because I did say, I like to go to Ralph's and get at the Olive Bar and just fucking get olives and nobody knows who the fuck I am and Jump Around is actually playing in the supermarket or something. | ||
| It's fucking hilarious to me. | ||
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I love that. | |
| I always said that Steve Miller was one of the greatest rock stars of all time because nobody knows what the fuck he looks like. | ||
| Take the money and run. | ||
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This is a story about Billy Joe and Bobby Sue. | |
| What does that guy look like? | ||
| Any idea? | ||
| Because I'm a smoker. | ||
| Because I'm a joker. | ||
| Midnight cowboy? | ||
| I'm a midnight choker. | ||
| Yeah, the Joker. | ||
| Jungle Love, that was another great jam. | ||
| Damn, he had some great jams. | ||
| So I'm sitting in the studio, by myself, stuck. | ||
| A friend of mine asked me to do a feature on his rap record, which I really wasn't. | ||
| I don't do a lot of that anymore. | ||
| How long had it been since you'd done it? | ||
| Well, I mean, the first La Coca Nostra album, I was part of the whole album. | ||
| That was a few years back, right? | ||
| That was 08. 08. 08. And I've done a rap here, a rap there for friends. | ||
| So that's a long time to go between that and war porn. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Your new project, War Porn, when did you guys start that? | ||
| What happened, I'm getting to it, is this cat asked me to, I'll even shout him out, just do Ryu. | ||
| Plenty of shout-outs on this show. | ||
| Jamie, meet your record number? | ||
| Like the fighter from Street Fighter, you know what I mean? | ||
| Ryu, he has an album out. | ||
| And I did a song on there, and it came out amazing. | ||
| I was so, like... | ||
| In love with what I did, like, after all these years, like, wow, I busted a fucking really dope rhyme on that thing. | ||
| That him and I, I was like, yo, we should do a little mixtape thing just to help promote this, whatever, whatever. | ||
| Something happened. | ||
| He just couldn't be involved. | ||
| And then I immediately thought of my friend and partner now, this guy Sick Jackin from a group called Psycho Realm. | ||
| Two excellent names. | ||
| Sick Jackin and Psycho Realm. | ||
| He's going to come next time. | ||
| I called him today and I was like, yo, I tell you space if you want to come do this. | ||
| There he is, the bald guy right there. | ||
| And then Devine Styler did all the beats and he rhymes on the project. | ||
| But the way it came about was like when dude couldn't do it, Devine already was making the beats. | ||
| I called Sick Jack. | ||
| I was like, yo, I got this project. | ||
| He came, heard all the beats, and we literally made this record in like a week. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Devon Styler, a short background, I would not be in this business. | ||
| I would not be making music if it wasn't for that man. | ||
| He's the first guy that ever told me I could rap. | ||
| I used to want to be a graffiti artist. | ||
| He was an amazing graffiti artist, and I was just following him around as a 16-year-old trying to learn styles and shit. | ||
| And I would bust raps because they were making music to make fun of shit, like your mom or this or that. | ||
| And they would always be like, yo, you could rap. | ||
| You should make a tape. | ||
| When you do graffiti art, does it get you high? | ||
| No, not really. | ||
| I mean, maybe after a while you might feel a little different, but you wear masks and shit. | ||
| Oh, do they wear masks? | ||
| Well, now they wear real ones. | ||
| We used to just tie bandanas. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Because I would imagine, if you're standing there, like some of those, I passed by some of those in downtown LA. If you were in a room like this and tried to paint that whole wall just with no ventilation, you probably would. | ||
| But this is mostly outdoor, on the wall, on the bus, on... | ||
| In L.A., the scene was, we had a yard. | ||
| Every crew, you'd have a yard somewhere, like in an industrial area between buildings where there's a brick wall and two buildings, and you'd just bomb them. | ||
| It would be called your yard. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| This crew's yard or that crew's yard. | ||
| And you'd sneak into other crew's yards, and you'd bomb over their pieces. | ||
| And that's not good, right? | ||
| It's a game, almost. | ||
| It's a game? | ||
| Would they kick your ass? | ||
| Yes, if they caught you, for sure. | ||
| Well, that's not good. | ||
| Kick your ass and steal your paint. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know who David Cho is? | ||
| You know David? | ||
| I love David Cho, man. | ||
| David's got these crazy fucking videos he's putting up on Instagram now of him throwing paint all over the place. | ||
| The floor, yeah. | ||
| Paint fumes. | ||
| He's high on paint fumes. | ||
| Someone save him! | ||
| He's going crazy. | ||
| He's in some industrial building. | ||
| I love that dude. | ||
| Taking a trailer, running it around. | ||
| He's so far out there, there's no map. | ||
| No one's got a fucking map of David Choland. | ||
| He's got a cart, and he's just pouring paint on the ground. | ||
| He's a savage. | ||
| He's also super smart. | ||
| He's a great dude, too. | ||
| This is on purpose. | ||
| There's purpose to what he does, man. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| No, David, he's a sweet, sweet guy. | ||
| I really like him as a person. | ||
| I love talking to him. | ||
| I don't know if he still does, but I did his podcast. | ||
| I think I did his podcast because he heard me on yours. | ||
| And he was like, come and please bring a guitar. | ||
| He does them now and banks them. | ||
| I take very... | ||
| Serious pride in the fact I'm the first guy to ever do music on this thing. | ||
| And I think, is Honey Honey the only guy, other people that have really done music? | ||
| Yeah, Gary brought his, Gary Clark Jr. brought his guitar, but never played anything. | ||
| Oh, I'm a huge fan, dude. | ||
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I love that guy. | |
| He's the best. | ||
| He's such a nice guy, too, man. | ||
| Oh, man, I fucking love that dude's music, man. | ||
| I'm really a big fan of that dude. | ||
| I'm a big fan of him as a person and as a musician. | ||
| And I went to see Honey Honey played in downtown LA. They had like this midnight show on a Wednesday night. | ||
| And Gary Clark joined them on stage. | ||
| And Gary Clark Jr. and Honey Honey. | ||
| God damn, it was good. | ||
| And I was like, you know, 10 feet away and there was 100 people in the room. | ||
| And it was Gary Clark Jr. just jamming with Honey Honey. | ||
| He's one of the baddest motherfuckers on the guitar ever. | ||
| He is right now. | ||
| Beautiful sound. | ||
| Like, he's got such a distinct... | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| Jamie's got it on... | ||
| I put it on my Instagram. | ||
| I think I remember this. | ||
| Like you hear this and you know it's him. | ||
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We'll be right back. | |
| Is there a bass player or am I just not singing him or? | ||
| Well, the bass player is the dude in front of us. | ||
| That's Ben. | ||
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He's just playing another rhythm guitar. | |
| Is he playing another guitar? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah, that's a guitar. | ||
| It's not a bass. | ||
| He didn't pick up a bass? | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Well, somebody's putting down some nice low end. | ||
| That's probably Gary. | ||
| Somebody has an EQ. It sounded good. | ||
| That's all I was making a point of. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Goddamn, dude. | ||
| I don't have a bass player. | ||
| My keyboard player, Brian, who comes through here, he's got the meanest fucking left hand on the keys. | ||
| He plays all his keys at the right and the bass is left. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| We're a trio now. | ||
| When I do my band stuff, it's just me and two other guys. | ||
| Drummer and him. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And we sound like six guys. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Gary Clark's got his own sound. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, you hear his sound. | ||
| Like, Stevie Ray Vaughan is a perfect example of that. | ||
| Like, I hear some Stevie Ray Vaughan, and I'll hear, like, one or two bars, and I'll go, that's Stevie Ray Vaughan. | ||
| He's got that sound. | ||
| You know, there's, like, a certain slide. | ||
| Billy Gibbons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Billy Gibbons. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes, yes. | ||
| He came in and played on an album of mine on a couple of songs, Love War and the Ghost of Whitey Ford, and he came in with this little crate... | ||
| Amp head, which Crate is not a fancy company. | ||
| It's like a cheaper, not cheaper, I won't insult them, but like it wasn't like super hot. | ||
| It was like some regular fucking head and this one pedal and the sound. | ||
| I was like, how the fuck did you get? | ||
| And it's just something. | ||
| Some guys have a magic, man. | ||
| Some guys have a magic about the sound. | ||
| Me, I play acoustic. | ||
| That's what I'm best at. | ||
| I know how to make that sound good. | ||
| I have electric guitars, but I could have that same fucking guitar as Gary Clark Jr. right there, and the same equipment, and set it the same way. | ||
| And it probably won't sound the same. | ||
| It'll sound in the neighborhood, but I'm saying there's something. | ||
| There's some people that just got an inherent magic about feel on an instrument. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, that's what's amazing about someone who can play an instrument like that, is that they're making some sound that it syncs up with our brain so well. | ||
| It syncs up with our hearing so well that it just gives you pleasure. | ||
| And by the way, folks, that's with an iPhone... | ||
| Can't microphone in camera. | ||
| I mean that is a terrible recording device as far as like getting good audio quality So when you they're getting really fucking good There's more computing power than there was it when they supposedly sent people to the moon You know I mean to the moon Alice supposedly do you think they sent people on the moon? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's one of them things. | ||
| How do you know the fucking truth? | ||
| But I'll tell you one fucking thing for sure. | ||
| The earth is not flat. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| See, that's where it gets tricky, right? | ||
| How do we know? | ||
| Dude, look at the moon! | ||
| These scientists could all be intrudes. | ||
| Look at the moon. | ||
| Look at the moon. | ||
| That's brown, but wouldn't be interesting if we were the only one that wasn't, and that was the argument. | ||
| That was why everybody was trying to, hey, I'm just trying to see both sides. | ||
| I'm just asking questions over there. | ||
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I'm cool with it. | |
| It makes for fun arguments. | ||
| The moon landing is my favorite. | ||
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At the end of the day, moon landing is suspect to me. | |
| Let me say that. | ||
| There's a lot of things I see on TV that are suspect. | ||
| Hey, I saw a movie maybe 15 years ago called Wag the Dog that fucked everything up for me. | ||
| When I see the news, I see Wag the Dog all day long. | ||
| That was a great movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, do you remember when the CIA, it came out that the CIA had paid half a million dollars? | ||
| To make the fucking ISIS videos. | ||
| Wait, was it, how much was it? | ||
| Was it half a million dollars? | ||
| Five hundred thousand dollars? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To make, might have been more than that. | ||
| Am I like way selling it short? | ||
| Was it like five hundred million dollars? | ||
| No, I think it was half a million. | ||
| How much was it? | ||
| I think it was half a million to make videos. | ||
| But still, like to make homemade looking videos, it was like half a million dollars. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| I think it was more than that. | ||
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540 million. | |
| Maybe it was 5 million. | ||
| 540 million. | ||
| Half a billion, yeah. | ||
| Half a billion, yeah. | ||
| Oh, fucking... | ||
| Okay, thank you. | ||
| Yeah, when I said 500,000, I was like, no. | ||
| That sounds cheap. | ||
| Yeah, half a billion. | ||
| Half a billion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so what they... | ||
| First of all, stop and think about how many X-Men movies you can make for half a billion. | ||
| I mean, what kind of a shit return on your investment is it making fake Al-Qaeda videos? | ||
| Know what that is? | ||
| Know what that is right there? | ||
| That's two motherfuckers. | ||
| The guy who owns that firm is the buddy of somebody else. | ||
| That's the thing I was talking about earlier where they figure out how to get the fucking money anyways. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's the kind of shit I'm talking about. | ||
| Well, that is about as clear as an example as you can get, where it's $540 billion. | ||
| That's as clear as back when, remember, what, was it 20 years ago when they came up with the whole thing where, like, the Pentagon was paying, like, $1,000 a hammer, and, like, toilet seats were, like, $7,000. | ||
| You know, it was like anything. | ||
| Right, I remember that. | ||
| $540 million is a crazy number, too. | ||
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That's like, wait, what the fuck? | |
| Jesus. | ||
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What are we talking about? | |
| That's a lot of money, man. | ||
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Oh, war porn. | |
| Hammers, war porn. | ||
| So like I said, Devine, he's my mentor. | ||
| He's like, back in the day before, it used to be if you were the son of somebody, that was like your mentor. | ||
| Now it's kind of almost like they treat it like an insult. | ||
| I'm the son of Devine Styler in this game. | ||
| That's how I look at it. | ||
| I learned style from him. | ||
| I learned how to rap from him. | ||
| He encouraged me to do it at first. | ||
| And then I went on my own journey. | ||
| So coming back to do this project with him was fun. | ||
| This was strictly just, in my mind, an art project. | ||
| Literally, we're going to give this away. | ||
| We're just going to make a few CDs and make some fun art to surround it. | ||
| And we'll call it a day. | ||
| And then it came out amazing. | ||
| And I'm not selling myself short. | ||
| This shit is fucking banging hip-hop. | ||
| And it's free. | ||
| And you can get it at warpornindustries.com and click on the mixtape and download it. | ||
| It's free. | ||
| Well, I've been enjoying the videos, man. | ||
| Let's play a video while we're here, man. | ||
| We're going to play a video. | ||
| It looks like you're having a good time, too. | ||
| It's been the most fun I've had in forever. | ||
| Like I said, I was stuck in this rut, and then these guys came into my studio and brought it alive again. | ||
| And I realized it's communal, what I do. | ||
| Even when I'm trying to just express my own thought and idea. | ||
| It's communal. | ||
| You need some people around you. | ||
| I'm sure guys like Joey Diaz are this for you. | ||
| When you have an idea for a routine or a joke, you'll be like, what do you think? | ||
| Should I pursue that? | ||
| There's a guy that you'll turn to and he'll be like, fuck yeah. | ||
| That's the move, or fuck no, don't do that. | ||
| It's better when there's a lot of you. | ||
| You feed off each other, you have fun. | ||
| And you also, like, it's very important to be happy for other people. | ||
| Like, seeing other people kick ass should make you feel better. | ||
| Like, and being around bad motherfuckers makes you better. | ||
| We express it like this in the studio when the three of us are, by the way, the official name of the group is War Porn Industries. | ||
| Warporn is the first record. | ||
| Why warporn? | ||
| What does that mean, man? | ||
| Because it's fucking... | ||
| Because exactly. | ||
| What does it mean, man? | ||
| Because exactly. | ||
| Because everything's warporn. | ||
| Turn on your TV. It's warporn. | ||
| I'm reading this script. | ||
| I'm even more confused with this script. | ||
| No, it's the same thing. | ||
| We just separated it and made an arc out of it. | ||
| It's too confusing. | ||
| Well, good. | ||
| The logo is badass, though. | ||
| Listen, I'm an old man. | ||
| Tristan Eaton. | ||
| Let's shout out Tristan Eaton right here. | ||
| The logo's dope. | ||
| But that is just gonna reaffirm ideas of devil worship and pornography. | ||
| You people are, you're monsters. | ||
| You're what's wrong. | ||
| I intend to scare you. | ||
| That is about as dope and manly an image as you can get. | ||
| There's a skull where the pussy should be. | ||
| There's thighs staring back at you on the legs. | ||
| It's a death's head moth is the overall concept. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there's fishnet stockings involved with guns. | ||
| That's the spine of the wings. | ||
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Shamrock. | |
| Yo, Tristan Eaton, he's a fucking badass, dude. | ||
| It's dope as fuck. | ||
| Gatling guns. | ||
| I would wear that. | ||
| I would consider getting that tattooed. | ||
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Shamrocks. | |
| I'll tattoo that somewhere, like my calf. | ||
| It might be my back piece. | ||
| It might be right there. | ||
| Dude, that's a good back piece. | ||
| That's a strong back piece. | ||
| No bullshit, but straighten out the words. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| Keep it as is. | ||
| It's your lingo. | ||
| Imagine going to Japanese people and going, hey man, your language is fucking too weird. | ||
| English. | ||
| Can you use English? | ||
| Use ours. | ||
| It's better. | ||
| So we got a few videos. | ||
| What you got up right now? | ||
| You got anything close to up? | ||
| Which one is this one? | ||
| We got three videos. | ||
| Let's crank this one. | ||
| The first one was called World's End. | ||
| Do we want to go in chronological order? | ||
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I'll go with that one. | |
| We should, if it's a piece. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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The world get ready. | |
| We bomb the whole planet. | ||
| Shout out to John. | ||
| I mean, Chad Marshall, Von Poe shot the videos. | ||
| Shout out to Grandpa from the Great Beyond. | ||
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I hope you're looking down, having a good time up there in heaven with cheeses. | |
| There's an abandoned missile silo, apparently, at the top of DeSoto in the valley. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Divine put the needle on plates and rock vinyl. | ||
| Dusty finger diggin' the crates and puff rhino. | ||
| Whiskey breath tatted on flesh to rough wino. | ||
| War porn outta your deck, it's all lino. | ||
| We shit on your idol, crosshands, finish your vitals. | ||
| Eliminate all rivals, homie, this is survival. | ||
| Crime, wave, title, dictate, poem, recital. | ||
| Sick, psycho, homicidal, music, my title. | ||
| From that downtown Apocalypse, rocking this with cartridges. | ||
| Full clip, straight bullet, random who the target is. | ||
| Bystander, mindstander, the way you're the starving kid. | ||
| Stay hungry, that's how they kiss. | ||
| They killing all of this. | ||
| Ominous, not communist, the key to dominance. | ||
| OG, only wait for me, I got some time in this. | ||
| Mirror my society, the beauty and the violence is what I miss. | ||
| And you hear it clearly when I'm rhyming this. | ||
| When I'm rhyming this. | ||
| Sick Jack is one of the most slept on underrated MCs ever. | ||
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Technical weaponry, rhyme style heavenly, learn my pedigree, burn my effigy, spit my therapy, smoke my remedy, passive aggressively, choke my enemy, invoke my reverie, provoke my devilry, bucket list trilogy, war upon industry, | |
| terminate assassinate with extreme bigotry, heavyweight armor plate, subatomic energy, Necronomicon, triple hexagon, one level Woo! | ||
| I'm pouring in streets in the building baby! | ||
| It's that old man rap! | ||
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Dude! | |
| I like it! | ||
| Guard, hammer, merciless. | ||
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Sonic, rock, turbulence. | |
| Armors on gun, metal, matte black surfaces. | ||
| Squad with the virtuous. | ||
| Charge for the murderous. | ||
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Bars for the dark hearts lost in the urban grip. | |
| Torn from the flame of the jinty, you knowledge this. | ||
| Profile of the new world is ominous. | ||
| Broken equilibrium, Americana promises. | ||
| War pawn, risen from the ass of the bottomless. | ||
| And watch, dystopian. | ||
| Drop from the fallopian. | ||
| Admire for the entire empire. | ||
| Draconian! | ||
| This shit is Nickelodeon anime pandemonium. | ||
| Quickening of arbitrary death of associates. | ||
| This is war porn banging at colloquium. | ||
| Get your door blown off the hinge and prove to him. | ||
| Blow my brains out remotely from the podium. | ||
| Great cerebellum decorations of the holiest. | ||
| Seven levels of heaven are ceremonious. | ||
| Nine levels of hell are for the lowliest. | ||
| Fabricated modified mass hypnosis. | ||
| Floating hallucinations while I'm sitting in the lotus You should come with me to the end of the world Yeah, man, we've had a blast, man Oh We're gonna make many more records. | ||
| Like, I'm back in the rap game now, dawg, for a minute. | ||
| Dude, it's cool seeing and hearing you rap again. | ||
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It's fun. | |
| It's exciting. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| I really enjoyed your transition into, like, more acoustic stuff. | ||
| I'm still doing that, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is fun. | ||
| Like, this is unadulterated for me. | ||
| Like, you were talking about you need cats to push you. | ||
| Our goal in the studio is, like, when Sig Jack comes off the mic from saying a verse, he wants me to look at him and be like, fuck you. | ||
| So you compete against each other. | ||
| Oh, fuck! | ||
| Dude, your lyrics are outstanding. | ||
| Your lyrics are sharp. | ||
| Both those dudes that are on either side of me in this are retarded with it, man. | ||
| If you really sit back and analyze. | ||
| Divine Styler, like, speaks in tongues, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That dude's on some super scientific. | ||
| And Sick Jack... | ||
| On some street-level hood shit, but the way he puts it together is so crazy. | ||
| It's almost like we're a representation of like almost like physical like Mental and spiritual like mine's more mental like you guys are like see no here evil here. | ||
| No almost It's a weird car together and when we get together all three of us will tell you it's it's The energy that we create with each other, we don't find it anywhere else. | ||
| We're addicted to this right now. | ||
| That's why I'm telling you, there's going to be way more. | ||
| We're already working on the next one. | ||
| Well, I think that can't be overlooked, man, because I think that you get a lot out of the people that you're around all the time. | ||
| And I think you're a different person when you're around different people. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm sure you experience that, right? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I think that being around a bunch of bad motherfuckers on a regular basis like you are in war porn like everything is probably like everybody's sharp and everybody's not everybody is also aware of the full body of work You're all real hip-hop fans. | ||
| So you're aware of like Nas's best shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah, and Jay-Z's best shit and the bar gets so high and so sharp the edge gets It's sharp. | ||
| So that riff right there, that's one of my all-time favorites that I've heard in the last couple of years. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
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That's great shit. | |
| I honestly feel like, in my opinion, and I come from a certain era, I give that to people. | ||
| There's a new era of kids, and I don't shit on them or hate them. | ||
| They have this whole thing hating on these kids, calling it mumble rap. | ||
| And I don't really got a problem with it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| My only problem is like, hey, there's certain cats that are kind of disrespecting the past. | ||
| And it's like, hey, be you. | ||
| Be new. | ||
| Be different. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Be what you want to be. | ||
| But don't fucking shit on cats like Biggie. | ||
| And I'm not even going to call out names and all this. | ||
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Right. | |
| But anybody who's listening to me and is really hip to the game knows there's these youngsters that are kind of almost trying to make noise by disrespecting. | ||
| And it's like, listen, the path that was walked before you is the only reason you can fucking wear that fucking cheesy fucking shit jewelry you get and fucking act so ignorant. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And go to the Met Ball and Gala and all this when you ain't nobody. | ||
| And next year you're not going to be anybody at the Met Gala. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You're just this year's fucking novelty. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know your business that much, but I understand what you're saying. | ||
| No, I'm just talking about the music game in general. | ||
| The music game in general. | ||
| The older dudes have been around. | ||
| There's a lot of youngsters that are like... | ||
| Don't know the history. | ||
| And I don't say you need to know Biggie's every album, but don't fucking come out and shit on Biggie. | ||
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Oh, you can't. | |
| You can't shit on Biggie. | ||
| Don't come out and shit on Pac. | ||
| Don't come out and act like they didn't exist or you don't know anything about them. | ||
| That's unfortunate. | ||
| And they're few and far between, but they've made big headlines. | ||
| And that's why there seems to be this disrespectful hate for the young. | ||
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Right. | |
| I don't got that, because, listen, I always said, like, I just don't ever want to sound like that old fucking bitter dude. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'll tell you, I don't like that. | ||
| I'm not a fan of that song or that guy. | ||
| But go do with you. | ||
| I might be old. | ||
| Maybe I don't get what you're doing. | ||
| You know, as I've gotten older, I give less of a fuck about what other people enjoy. | ||
| And when I was younger, I had to, for some reason, I felt like I had to argue what I enjoy versus what you enjoy. | ||
| And that doesn't make any sense to me anymore. | ||
| We're all so fucking different. | ||
| The idea, like, you meet people and personalities vary so much. | ||
| In other words, let me qualify what I was just talking about, actually. | ||
| Because really what I was talking about wasn't young people, if I want to be perfectly clear. | ||
| What I was talking about was people my age that I hear throwing a lot of hate and a lot of just like, oh, that ain't rap or that ain't hip-hop or anything. | ||
| Maybe not to you, but you really just sound old and bitter. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Let them kids get theirs. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I made the record I wanted to make. | ||
| I didn't try to make a record that Designer or Future or any of these cats that are doing it now would make because that would look stupid. | ||
| I would look like a thirsty idiot because that's not what I'd do. | ||
| That is what they do. | ||
| So the shit on it is shitting on them. | ||
| And I don't know them. | ||
| I don't know anything. | ||
| And honestly, I've heard future records and I've heard designer records and they're not the worst things I've ever heard. | ||
| I'm just not a fan. | ||
| That's not my thing. | ||
| It's not garbage. | ||
| And I don't like when I hear people just calling shit out for garbage that isn't garbage. | ||
| If it's garbage, call it garbage. | ||
| Like Mr. Brainwash or something like that. | ||
| That's garbage. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You don't even know who I'm talking about. | ||
| I don't know any of these people, but I do know what you're talking about. | ||
| You know, here's the beautiful thing. | ||
| I had to throw shade. | ||
| That wasn't even cool, but I meant it. | ||
| No, it's not at all. | ||
| I would tell you. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck's going on in the rap world, but what I do know is if that's what's happening. | ||
| It wasn't rap. | ||
| I wasn't even talking about rap. | ||
| He knows. | ||
| He's laughing. | ||
| Tell me what you're talking about. | ||
| He's an artist. | ||
| He's a painter, like, fake fucking street artist who, like, stole everything he Who's that? | ||
| Did you see the Banksy movie? | ||
| The guy that faked it till he made it. | ||
| That's who I'm talking about. | ||
| He's garbage, dude. | ||
| That's garbage. | ||
| You have the right to be offended. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| For you, it's the equivalent of Carlos Mencia. | ||
| That's Mr. Brainwash. | ||
| That's a perfectly legitimate Correlation? | ||
| Is that the right word? | ||
| Correlation? | ||
| Correlation. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I said correlation. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I'm talking... | ||
| How many... | ||
| I'm two glasses deep into... | ||
| Whiskey. | ||
| Jack Daniels' single barrel rye. | ||
| It's the real shit. | ||
| You owe me a case now, Jack Daniels. | ||
|
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America. | |
| Lynchburg, Tennessee. | ||
| Send that shit right to the crib, all right? | ||
| This is where we got this. | ||
| Me and y'all can't drink it there. | ||
| I see the commercial. | ||
| Y'all can't drink it there. | ||
| Send an extra case this way to the Joe Rogan experience. | ||
| Isn't it amazing that we're interested in stuff that sits in barrels that have been fire-brewed? | ||
| They take fire, they burn the inside of the barrels, right? | ||
| Isn't that part of the process of making this stuff? | ||
| A lot of the new shit, too, is the darker versions is like some people actually get the whiskey that's soaked into the wood and somehow get that out. | ||
| And that's where you get these dark versions of like Jameson Caskmates and other stuff like that. | ||
| And then there's a new... | ||
| I don't know how new it is. | ||
| I'm talking out of my ass a little bit because I've had a few. | ||
| But where they buy old ale, like Guinness or beer ones, and then put whiskey in those. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Where they kind of cross. | ||
| Jesus, they're crazy, these kids today. | ||
| I just love the fact that that's how you make this. | ||
| I'm not selling this, but when you talk about a whiskey... | ||
| I'm a JMO guy, but this is nice. | ||
| This is nice. | ||
| Look, it's an acquired... | ||
| Sick Jack is a Gentleman Jack guy. | ||
| He loves the Gentleman Jack, so I'm hit. | ||
| Kool-Aid tastes good. | ||
| This is an exotic mouth experience. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's like there's something going on. | ||
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Have you ever gotten to a tasting, like a scotch tasting or something like that? | |
| No, because I'm a grown man who has other things to do. | ||
| Go to a scotch tasting. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| It all tastes like fucking turpentine. | ||
| Some of it tastes okay. | ||
| It's not Kool-Aid, right? | ||
| It's not Gatorade. | ||
| I only like a couple. | ||
| There's a lot of them I don't like. | ||
| I don't like to admit it, but I like a cold Coke 1. You know one of those? | ||
| Coke Zero? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I call it Coke 1! | ||
| But sometimes that is what I want. | ||
| That tastes good. | ||
| If that could get you drunk... | ||
| Oh, here's a funny story. | ||
| So, my wife gives me a present the other day. | ||
| And it's like this keychain with this elongated, like, metal tube-looking thing on it. | ||
| And I open it up, and it's just empty. | ||
| And she's like, ah, I just thought, you know, if you smoked a joint, you could put it in there, and it wouldn't stink up your car. | ||
| And it was a smart idea, trust me. | ||
| But I'm looking at it, and I'm looking at it, and I'm like, babe, um... | ||
| I think this is a coke vial, actually. | ||
| I think that's really the intention for this. | ||
| She was like, you know what, it's funny, because there were smaller ones, too. | ||
| And I thought, that's really small. | ||
| I wonder what that could be for. | ||
| Now it totally makes sense. | ||
| So I got this bullet-looking thing. | ||
| I put joints in it, but it's like, it's a coke vial, dude. | ||
| Can you imagine what would have happened if they made coke legal, like, a long time ago? | ||
| Like, how much would culture change if coke was like beer? | ||
| I mean, you could drink yourself to death. | ||
| We all know someone who's drank themselves to death. | ||
| I think our obesity problem would probably be... | ||
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To be kicked. | |
| I'd probably be the weight I wanted to be. | ||
| I might be closer to the weight I really truly want to be. | ||
| I have a theory and my theory is that much like How will you take sugar out of things and then just have like processed sugar and you eat it? | ||
| It's terrible for your body because it doesn't have all the natural fibers It's very dangerous like you're like you get fat It's not dangerous. | ||
| I'm not saying it's like nuclear power. | ||
| But my theory is that I bet those coca leaves are exactly the same way. | ||
| I bet if you just chew those coca leaves like those people do up in the mountains, I think it's great for you. | ||
| I think it's just like eating fruit is really good for you right now. | ||
| If you have a bowl of fresh blueberries, just because it has some sugar in it, that's really good for you. | ||
| Rich in antioxidants, rich in vitamins. | ||
| Strawberries. | ||
| Delicious. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| Not bad for you. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| But like spoons of sugar, inarguably not good for you, right? | ||
| I mean, not the worst thing. | ||
| You'll figure it out. | ||
| What you're talking about right there is something processed versus something that's natural. | ||
| Yeah, it's exactly the same thing. | ||
| I would actually, with all my heart issues, I got a heart valve. | ||
| If you sat two plates on them and a plate of Coke and you said you had to do one of these and here's some Coke leaves, I'd be like, oh, fuck, I'll chew those Coke leaves all day. | ||
| I want to experience that, man. | ||
| I want to know what that's like because they... | ||
| Things I've read about are like pets that work in those, because that's a mountainous area. | ||
| They like chew on them all day and work and do shit. | ||
| It's like coffee to them in a weird way. | ||
| You know, maybe a little, you know... | ||
| I don't think it's stronger than coffee, man. | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
| I think from everybody that describes it, they describe it as like just a mild stimulant, and it makes you feel good. | ||
| And it also has like, what do they call, flavonoids? | ||
| Because you're also chewing on it. | ||
| It's getting your saliva. | ||
| It's dissolving. | ||
| You're processing it through a digestive system instead of just banging it straight to your brain in a powder form. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I think it's probably, I mean, obviously I'm speaking way out of line here. | ||
| I don't know anything about science. | ||
| Does it take to make a line? | ||
| That's another thing you don't know. | ||
| That line might be 400 coca leaves. | ||
| How many strawberries does it take to make a tablespoon of sugar? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's a good analogy. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| This whiskey's really nice. | ||
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This is good shit. | |
| I'm feeling good. | ||
| Goddamn, this California marijuana is also very effective. | ||
| Yeah, I can't complain, man. | ||
| I can't complain. | ||
| But there's another thing right there. | ||
| When your video started playing, we sparked up again. | ||
| There's the whole thing right there of this whole new, hey, I've smoked my fair share of some dabs and whatnot here. | ||
| But now we're talking about, if we're going to keep it 100% honest, We've always kind of sat around, smoked joints, and be like, we don't really do drugs. | ||
| You know what dabs are, man? | ||
| If you do dabs, you do drugs. | ||
| That's a drug. | ||
| That's weed being processed into an actual more potent, more compact drug. | ||
| Form. | ||
| Form. | ||
| To smoke. | ||
| It's drugs. | ||
| It's the meth of weed. | ||
| Dabs are like face tattoos. | ||
| They're like, you went too far, fucker. | ||
| Just slow down. | ||
| Settle down. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Don't turn your nose into a pool nose. | ||
| I've had my fair share of dabs, and I would partake under the right circumstances. | ||
| Boom bap. | ||
| I'll have a little dab. | ||
| But what I'm saying is like- It's too much. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
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I'm over here. | |
| I'm okay. | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| You're smoking pens, though. | ||
| You're smoking pens, though, as dabs. | ||
| I actually don't smoke too many different ones, but I have some that are organic that I really like. | ||
| It's still a dab. | ||
| No, it's oil. | ||
| It's oil. | ||
| Same fucking difference, man. | ||
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It's THC oil. | |
| You guys are smoking wax. | ||
| And you gotta smoke with people who are interested in soldering irons and fucking vacuums. | ||
| I'm more interested. | ||
| I'm personally a little bit more into what they call the solventless, like ice hash and shit like that, like a little bit different. | ||
| I mean, BHO scares me a little bit sometimes, I won't lie. | ||
| But there's a thing, there's a trigger that hits me when someone says, you want to do dabs, like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, because you're one of those people that does dabs. | ||
| Like, I'm not... | ||
| You're the dude who calls in sick to the country club because you're too fucking high to drive, all right? | ||
| No, no, we're not doing dabs together, man. | ||
| Get your shit together. | ||
| You don't have to get that high. | ||
| Don't come by the studio with that joke because you're doing a dab now if you come by my studio. | ||
| I'm going to make you do at least one dab. | ||
| Do you want to drink glasses of wine? | ||
| Or do you want to drink glasses of whiskey? | ||
| Well, you can drink glasses of wine and enjoy it. | ||
| If you drink glasses of whiskey, you'll be fucking dead. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That's like dabs. | ||
| You went too far into the dark land, son. | ||
| You met the Shire. | ||
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You're wrong. | |
| You know how much weed you smoke? | ||
| The orcs! | ||
| You're wrong about that. | ||
| Some people, you're right about it. | ||
| You're right about it. | ||
| Like, the average Joe cat, like, that doesn't know much, doing a dab is right. | ||
| You know how much weed you smoke? | ||
| I don't get that fucked up from a dab, because, you know, I've smoked a lot of weed for 20 fucking years. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But what it will do if you smoke, what I don't want to do about that shit, from what I understand, is why I don't do a ton of it. | ||
| It's because you'll stop getting high from actual weed if you do too much of that shit. | ||
| Maybe that'll be good. | ||
| Maybe that's what's the best way to be is get high so often that you can be high and not even feel like you're high. | ||
| Like maybe that's the best place to be. | ||
| I smoke weed to get high though. | ||
| I want to know that I'm high. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's like letting go. | ||
| I don't want to get well. | ||
| Now you're talking about being a junkie. | ||
| This is what I'm talking about, man. | ||
| You're talking about smoking some weed to not know you're high, but be high. | ||
| That's called getting well. | ||
| You're sick. | ||
| It's just a plant, man. | ||
| It's just a plant, man. | ||
| Back off, man. | ||
| Hey, dude, if I don't get a buzz or I smoke. | ||
| Colorado taxes, man. | ||
| There's no point to me smoking if I'm not getting a buzz to my smoke. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying, man. | ||
| What I'm saying is achieve a perpetual vibration of, let's call it elevation. | ||
| Let's not call it being high. | ||
| To achieve a perpetual state where it's so common and normal that you don't even feel like you're high. | ||
| How do we live? | ||
| Isn't that how we live? | ||
| Pretty close. | ||
| Pretty fucking close. | ||
| I take days off, though. | ||
| Do you take days off? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Honestly, more than I, like, since in the last seven years, way more than I used to because of my kids. | ||
| Before my kids, I was perpetually high. | ||
| Like, I was high from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to sleep. | ||
| And I don't even look at that as a bad thing. | ||
| It's a thing. | ||
| Yeah, I was perpetually high. | ||
| I know a lot of people that are very productive and very smart who also do that. | ||
| And they enjoy it more. | ||
| Now, the wife and I, at the end of a long day, we'll go out in the backyard, because we don't smoke anywhere near the kids because of cystic fibrosis and all that, but we will, like that, and you know what? | ||
| Fuck anybody that doesn't like it. | ||
| I know parents that are alcoholics and shit, you know what I mean? | ||
| It's legal now. | ||
| We decompress from a day of doing fucking nebulizer treatments and fucking IV shit. | ||
| It works for us, and it's cool. | ||
| But if I wasn't getting, if I was smoking only to get even, I wouldn't even do it anymore. | ||
| Like, if I didn't get a buzz, you know what I mean? | ||
| It's a happy thing for me. | ||
| I'm not saying get even, I'm saying stay elevated. | ||
| Stay high. | ||
| But know you're elevated the entire time. | ||
| Well, you know, just like you know you're breathing oxygen, but do you pay attention to it on a regular basis? | ||
| Or just accept the fact that it's happening? | ||
| See, I like to know it. | ||
| I like the conscious, actual, like, oh, I'm in a relieved state of pain right now. | ||
| Listen, you're right. | ||
| I'm just, I'm essentially arguing for something that I've already argued against. | ||
| I'm not looking for cookies, man. | ||
| I'm not looking for cookies or anything, but maybe it's because I live in a slightly elevated level of stress than the average person. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| I want to know the difference. | ||
| I want to feel that cushion. | ||
| It's like the pillow on the bed for me. | ||
| I want to feel the pillow. | ||
| I don't want to just accept it's there. | ||
| I don't want to go Buddhist like that and wash the dishes just to wash the dishes. | ||
| I want to get high to get the fuck out of here for fucking five minutes. | ||
| You know what I find that's one of the most beneficial things about being high is that I'm only thinking about a few things, but I'm thinking about them very intensely. | ||
| Simply and very intently, yes. | ||
| Instead of thinking about a whole host of things peripherally, where it's almost like there's too much data coming in from all these other things that I don't really care about or need. | ||
| Look, you care about all sorts of things in your life that you're not going to deal with right now, and to harbor even a chunk of that in your consciousness It robs the rest of your resources for thinking about other things and that's one of the most apparent things about pot to me because like when I here's a perfect example when I smoke pot and then I play pool I am 20% better like a legitimate 20% better and I really think that it's because I'm not thinking about | ||
| oh I got to do this and then I got to call that guy and then this guy I got to respond to his text I got to respond to that person's email when I get high I I just see balls. | ||
| I see balls and green cloth and chalk. | ||
| Let me take that one step further. | ||
| You're also not even thinking about, I've got to beat this fucking guy. | ||
| You're thinking about, I'm a douchebag. | ||
| No, no, but you want to make the shot. | ||
| It's more about the shot, though. | ||
| Like, I want to make the shot. | ||
| I want to fucking win this game because I want to make the shot. | ||
| I want to see the angle. | ||
| There's a zen to it, for sure. | ||
| There's a thing that happens with pool that happens the same way in archery. | ||
| In archery, when you hit a target, it's so foolish. | ||
| Of course, it's just a hay bale with a target on it, with a little paper target that has a yellow center, and you hit the yellow center. | ||
| Whoop-dee-doo, nothing changed in the world. | ||
| I understand that rationally as a person who thinks- My dick would probably get hard if I did that, though. | ||
| I'd be like, ah! | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| But the thing about doing that is that, I don't know why, but when you do something correctly, when it all flows in harmony, just like with pool, it's the same thing. | ||
| When you have a long shot and it goes in, if you've ever been at a bar, when you watch people play pool, and some dude makes, or some woman, makes the craziest shot ever for the win, and everybody goes crazy, oh shit! | ||
| Because we know how hard it is to do and there's something poetic and beautiful about watching it happen. | ||
| It's that you just described why golf makes any sense at all. | ||
| I live on a golf course basically. | ||
| I like to hit the balls, and fucking I suck. | ||
| But what keeps you coming back is you'll play that 18-hole day, and one time you'll hit the shot that you meant to hit, the way you meant to hit it, and it went where you meant to go, and you're like, I can do that again! | ||
| I know I can! | ||
| That's why I don't play golf. | ||
| It's like crack. | ||
| You're chasing that first fucking high forever. | ||
| I'm not disrespecting anybody who plays golf, because I know I would get addicted. | ||
| But I don't play golf because I know I'd get addicted. | ||
| Because you would. | ||
| No, your whole personality would. | ||
| Because you'd hit that one shot the first day, and you'd be like, oh shit. | ||
| It's the same reason I don't do coke. | ||
| It's the same reason I've never done coke, the exact same reason. | ||
| My friend in high school, Jimmy Lawless, good buddy of mine to this day, when we were back in high school, we went to a party, and people were doing coke, and he goes, Joe, don't do it, you'd fucking love it. | ||
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It's like Dewey Cox, the movie where he's like, you don't want this! | |
| And I was like, okay, Jim, I trust you, buddy. | ||
| I go, I'm fucking done here. | ||
| I'm done with this. | ||
| And I've said this before, but this is a real thing that happened. | ||
| It was on a two-lane road, and we were driving beside this car that had the dome light on. | ||
| And I looked over, and there was this chick, and I'll never forget her arms. | ||
| She had these big arms. | ||
| She had the sleeveless shirt with thick arms. | ||
| It was the kind of girl that would punch you in the face. | ||
| And she was doing coke in the backseat. | ||
| And she looked over at me with the dome light on, and she just goes, Fuck you! | ||
| She says it to me like, I'm just looking at her. | ||
| I'm just looking at her. | ||
| You're doing coke. | ||
| You're on a two-lane road. | ||
| There's only two cars on the road. | ||
| I'm watching you do coke. | ||
| I'm seven feet away from you doing coke. | ||
| You're saying, fuck you? | ||
| Like, whoa. | ||
| Fuck coke. | ||
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| I had a few experiences with coke in my life, but here's the breakdown of coke and why it's evil. | ||
| We used to call it amongst a few people that I actually trusted enough to partake of it in my life. | ||
| We called it the sneaky pouch. | ||
| Sneaky pouch. | ||
| Because what would happen is you'd get some coke. | ||
| And it'd be like in a fold, you know, like a paper fold. | ||
| Everybody would put in for some coke. | ||
| And you'd go somewhere. | ||
| And every once in a while, you'd be like, hey, let me get the pouch. | ||
| I'm going to the bathroom real quick. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When you went to that bathroom, the nature of coke... | ||
| You would take a little piece of that off of yourself and put it in your own little dollar bill. | ||
| That's your sneaky pouch. | ||
| Sneaky pouch. | ||
| The sneaky pouch. | ||
| But what it says about... | ||
| And everybody did it. | ||
| The whole crew. | ||
| Nobody copped to it. | ||
| Nobody fucking acknowledged it. | ||
| But it's like we all know we took a little piece for ourself. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Off of the coke pile and whatever. | ||
| Sneaky pouch. | ||
| It's a deceitful... | ||
| Are you writing this down? | ||
| I have to write a thought down. | ||
| Feel free, dude. | ||
| Um... | ||
| So it kind of just describes the nature of what mind state that puts you in. | ||
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It's like, well, fuck everybody else if everybody sniffs. | |
| Who's sniffing? | ||
| It's just like, that's what that drug creates. | ||
| And that's why, I think three times in my life I've done it. | ||
| Well, any drug that radically changes your brain chemistry, whether it's whiskey, or whether it's coke, or, you know, honestly, even pot, especially pertaining to edibles, we should watch very carefully what happens when people take it. | ||
| You know, and I think that's one of the things that I've been guilty of, and I know a lot of other people have been guilty of it, too, just to totally come clean. | ||
| I defend pot so much that I never look at the potential negative consequences of people doing pot if they're too young. | ||
| Because I didn't do it when I was young. | ||
| I mean, I did a few times. | ||
| Maybe, like, A handful of times before I was 30. And then when I was 30, I met Eddie Bravo. | ||
| We started getting blazed all the time. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It just changed the entire way I looked at pot. | ||
| The first time I smoked pot was 14. Well, I definitely smoked it younger than that. | ||
| I smoked it when I was 8. My stepdad gave me some when I was eight. | ||
| Just a puff. | ||
| Because I was curious. | ||
| I was like, what happens when you do it? | ||
| He goes, do you want to try it? | ||
| I said, how much should I breathe in? | ||
| He goes, don't breathe in a lot. | ||
| Just breathe in a little bit. | ||
| This is obviously like sketchy memory. | ||
| I did it once when I was eight. | ||
| And then the next time I did, I was probably like 14. And then I did it probably maybe again when I was 17. I did it about 14 when we cut school and a couple of kids that were the cool guys that kind of took a liking to me. | ||
| And I was like, cool, cool kids like me. | ||
| I'm going to go hang out with these dudes. | ||
| They smoke weed. | ||
| And I remember I hit it. | ||
| And they would tell me, have you ever smoked weed? | ||
| No, I never smoked weed. | ||
| Nothing might happen to you the first time. | ||
| But I remember vividly hitting this joint with these dudes and literally spending probably an hour and 30 minutes laughing my balls off at nothing. | ||
| And I thought it was the greatest thing ever. | ||
| And from then on, I quit baseball. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| I quit pop order football. | ||
| I became an artist. | ||
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I started drawing and painting on walls. | |
| I was a different person. | ||
| That changed my life. | ||
| Weed is another thing that's probably semi-responsible for my path. | ||
| I had a very important moment when I was 16. I had only smoked weed a handful of times before I was 30 years old, like less than 12, like legitimately. | ||
| And one time when I was 16, it was me and my girlfriend and my best friend who went over her house and I had stole some weed from my stepdad. | ||
| And we'd rolled up a joint. | ||
| And we got so high, we were teleporting. | ||
| We would, like, find ourselves in the kitchen. | ||
| Astroplaning type shit? | ||
| We'd all be staring at each other on the couch, and then all of a sudden we'd be in the backyard. | ||
| We were barbecued. | ||
| We were fucking 16. I think my girlfriend at the time was 15. Josh was my age. | ||
| He was 16. And we were just time traveling. | ||
| All over the fucking building. | ||
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We were way too high. | |
| That's how I describe the first and only time I ever smoked dust. | ||
| Oh Jesus, you did that? | ||
| Well, I hung out with one of the neighborhoods I moved into. | ||
| Is there a fucking gateway drug to dust? | ||
| And tell me what it is. | ||
| Yes, it's called Cholos. | ||
| It's called Cholos. | ||
| Did they go right from Diet Pepsi to Dust? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But here's my story. | ||
| I moved on to this street called Independence Avenue in the valley. | ||
| It's like West Valley. | ||
| Kind of DeSoto Sherman Way-ish. | ||
| And it was heavily Latino neighborhood. | ||
| And we moved in and it was cool. | ||
| I mean, I came friends with a lot of people. | ||
| But like... | ||
| I went from, like, the end of elementary school into junior high, right, in that era. | ||
| So, like, once we hit the junior high, it's like a lot of the Mexican kids I was hanging out with started hanging out with the little bit older Mexican kids, and a lot of them were dealing in, like, kind of gang life over there. | ||
| It's just part of the way they get down. | ||
| And a lot of them like to fucking do dips, which is like a fucking Sherm cigarette dipped into my fucking... | ||
| Angel dust. | ||
| Sounds like a healthy choice. | ||
| Dude, it's how I wound up with this. | ||
| This little tattoo right here. | ||
| First tattoo I ever had in my life. | ||
| This little three dots. | ||
| Normally it's supposed to be up here, but I wasn't in the gang. | ||
| So it's like for some reason I was so fucked up, this is what wound up. | ||
| I mean, this represents what they call mi vida loca. | ||
| It's like little three dots here. | ||
| But it's like, that happened because I smoked dust. | ||
| Because these dudes passed me the sherm. | ||
| I didn't really know what I was doing. | ||
| I was like this, bang. | ||
| And literally, the way you just described that time traveling, it was like, I felt like if I thought of something to do, by the time I was finished with the thought of thinking to do it, I had already done it. | ||
| I'm going to call my mom. | ||
| Goodbye, mom. | ||
| Like that kind of thing. | ||
| It was like fucking nuts. | ||
| I've fucking never experienced anything like that. | ||
| I was terrified. | ||
| I was terrified. | ||
| Terrified. | ||
| I didn't know what the fuck's going on. | ||
| It was almost like, you know what? | ||
| It gave me a lot of feelings. | ||
| If you remember the first Friday movie when Chris Tucker reflects on like somebody snuck him a little piece of dust and he fucking... | ||
| I didn't lose my mind naked and all that shit, but I feel like I was the butt of a joke that night. | ||
| Like somebody gave me some dust and was like, let's watch fucking the white boy fucking trip on dust all night. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But it made for a good story on Joe Rogan, so now we're even. | ||
| I had an ex-boxing coach who had his finger bitten off when he was on dust and he had his toe removed and his second toe replaced his index finger and he made it curled so that he could keep throwing right hooks. | ||
| So when you'd shake his hand, you'd shake his hand. | ||
| That's a toe? | ||
| This is a toe right here? | ||
| Yeah, you'd get a toe bone. | ||
| So when you shake his hand, you get a little of this. | ||
| And he's a big ol' Irish gorilla. | ||
| You don't want to say shit, because he'll beat the fuck out of you. | ||
| And the dude has a toe where his index finger's gonna be. | ||
| That should be written into a movie. | ||
| Oh, he's a savage. | ||
| That's like something out of Snatch. | ||
| I knew a lot of savages when I worked in Boston. | ||
| When I worked in South Boston, I worked at this place called the Boston Athletic Club. | ||
| That's still creeping me out a little bit. | ||
| You did that to my palm. | ||
| I hear you, man. | ||
| I'm still creeping out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, I worked at the Boston Athletic Club, and then I worked at Nautilus Plus in Revere. | ||
| Revere, Massachusetts is like... | ||
| What's that place in Brooklyn that's like all guineas and... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Bensonhurst. | ||
| Bensonhurst. | ||
| That was like the Bensonhurst of Boston. | ||
| It was like Revere. | ||
| And I worked in a gym there. | ||
| So I was around a lot of crazy people. | ||
| I was around a lot of people that... | ||
| I was around a few people that got, like, indicted for murder. | ||
| Like this one dude, he didn't get indicted, he got arrested. | ||
| I don't know if they ever even tried him. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Long story short, don't do dust. | ||
| That's where you're leaving that? | ||
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I don't know how much I can talk about this guy's life. | |
| We don't want to cross any lines. | ||
| He was a nice guy, but I think he might have fucked a few people up. | ||
| Well, there's nothing weirder to me. | ||
| Not even weirder. | ||
| I don't know if that's the right word. | ||
| But strange and uncomfortable as being around And I'm not talking about like ex-marines or guys who have been in the war or anything like that. | ||
| I'm talking about like a civilian person, and I've been around quite a few of these kind of people, whether it be biker gang guys or whatever, that you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Have fucking killed people. | ||
| You know. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And you're not feeling threatened by them. | ||
| You don't think they're going to kill you. | ||
| Like, you know. | ||
| I used to train a guy who was in Whitey Bulger's gang. | ||
| You know. | ||
| He was like, I don't know if he was a hitman, but that was like the rumor. | ||
| He saw one at least. | ||
| But he asked me while I was teaching him, he asked me if I was going to kill someone, what's the best place to hit him? | ||
| And we sat around talking about it. | ||
| Me and him were talking about it. | ||
| This is when I was a black belt and he was a white belt. | ||
| So it was like a valid conversation for him to be having with a 20-year-old kid. | ||
| And I was like... | ||
| The neck. | ||
| I would hit someone in the neck. | ||
| Like, your neck's very vulnerable. | ||
| People get knocked out very easily if they get hit in the neck, sometimes even more so than the head. | ||
| And he was like, yeah. | ||
| And we looked at each other. | ||
| I'm like, okay, this is what I want you to work on right now. | ||
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I was like, holy shit! | |
| That's funny because I had a cousin when I was young, like before, like probably 1918. I was in California visiting and he was a correctional officer. | ||
| In upstate New York and he said the thing they were taught first is cuz all they walk around there's only like maybe 30 guards at a time on duty and what? | ||
| 600 to a thousand prisoners, right? | ||
| You know depending on what the circumstances are and all they have is a big metal key ring And they're taught the first thing you fucking do is punch a dude right in his fucking throat Yeah, if you feel like you're any kind of thing that's the and he told me that like that He was like if I was gonna give you any advice and you felt like you were fucking say the first thing you do and I And he explained it well enough that I knew, even as a young man, like, you're playing with a person's life punching them in the fucking Adam's apple or something. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| You would kill them. | ||
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With one of those things. | |
| Like, he was like, with that, even just with your fist, if you hit them right. | ||
| You would be amazed. | ||
| You'd be amazed at how much damage people could take. | ||
| Actually, I'd rather get punched in the Adam's apple than I would get kicked in the side of my head, like around here. | ||
| Because this is what shuts you off. | ||
| It seems like... | ||
| Again, many things can shut you off, just with the caveat. | ||
| Like, you can get shut off with a kick, even almost like to the top of your chest, it snaps your head back so much you get shut off. | ||
| But there's something about neck kicks. | ||
| Like, boom! | ||
| Dudes just go, they just crumple. | ||
| They do. | ||
| And sometimes they crumple from chin shots, but I think it's the same thing. | ||
| I think what the chin shot is doing is somehow or another pinching the garden hose that is the spine and shutting the system off. | ||
| It's also, if I'm not mistaken, your brain sits in that little bit of fluid, and if your skull moves fast enough, the brain doesn't move as fast, and if the brain touches the skull, that lights out. | ||
| That absolutely too. | ||
| Also, I think the same principle like rear naked chokes and head kick knockouts are not the same in that a rear naked choke is way safer. | ||
| Like if you get choked unconscious you're gonna be fine. | ||
| If you get head kicked unconscious Ooh, you gotta take some time off. | ||
| Like, you just got fucked up. | ||
| But the mechanism behind them is kind of similar in that it's cutting off the circuitry. | ||
| Not like specifically, because the choke is like stopping the blood, but the head kick is just jolting. | ||
| It's like rebooting your computer. | ||
| The head kick, I would imagine... | ||
| I've never experienced it, nor can I throw one that high. | ||
| But I would imagine why it might be worse is because like, alright, you can punch and it's the motion of the head almost and the brain not moving that is causing the knockout. | ||
| If you get kicked like this, it's a shin, it's everything. | ||
| Your head doesn't even get to move. | ||
| So the brain is actually just getting slammed against the other side of the fucking skull. | ||
| I've made this point really recently and even yesterday. | ||
| I think people should have no gloves on when they fight. | ||
| I think fighting with gloves makes it easier to punch people, which is more unrealistic. | ||
| And getting kicked in the head is way worse than getting punched in the head. | ||
| It's the same argument for Olympic headgear. | ||
| That's why it's going away. | ||
| They think it causes more problems than it's actually worth at this point. | ||
| I also think it's unrealistic in terms of the limitations of your body. | ||
| There's limitations of your body with punching people, and that's that your wrists bend. | ||
| Anybody's ever punched someone or something? | ||
| Would you condone tape or just raw? | ||
| No, raw. | ||
| Raw, raw all around. | ||
| Because taped is really what the problem is. | ||
| When you tape this wrist so well that I can't really fuck it up, I'm going to throw it with abandon. | ||
| Or with no abandon. | ||
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With no abandon. | |
| I don't think there's anything wrong with two people agreeing with a rule set. | ||
| They agree, okay, we're going to wear gloves and we're going to wear gi pants. | ||
| Things along those lines. | ||
| But if you can wear gloves, gloves for a striker are the equivalent of gi pants for a really good jiu-jitsu guard player. | ||
| If a guy like Eddie Bravo is allowed to wear gi pants and he gets you wrapped up, if you're some regular dude, you're going to sleep. | ||
| You're going to get fucked up. | ||
| You know, unless you're like some high, even like Hoyler Gracie fucks up when he's wearing the gi pants because he knows that those gi pants provide insane amounts of friction and traction and can clamp ahold of you and he can do some shit to you that you're just gonna be super uncomfortable with. | ||
| In a way, that's as much of an advantage for him to be able to wear the gi pants as it would be for a striker to wear the gloves. | ||
| But only a striker gets to wear the gloves. | ||
| Like, the grapplers have to wear shorts. | ||
| It's really kind of interesting because having your knuckles taped up and having your knuckles padded up is a real advantage for someone who knows how to hit things. | ||
| Because you can be much more relaxed and liberal with your use of punches. | ||
| You don't have to worry about hitting bones. | ||
| But you would never allow that the other way. | ||
| Like giving the option of a striker to wear hand pads and then a grappler to wear gi pants. | ||
| It's like we have a very accepted idea of what's civilized. | ||
| One of the things is you cover your knuckles. | ||
| It's kind of stupid because you don't have to cover your elbows. | ||
| People are smashing and slashing people up with their elbows. | ||
| My case against it is that it's not logical. | ||
| It's just historical. | ||
| We're just going by a tradition and it's not a logical tradition. | ||
| Still Queens of Marksbury coming from there. | ||
| It is kind of, but these are limitations that we inherited from a single discipline sport, like boxing. | ||
| If you think back, not that long ago... | ||
| A 75-round fight wasn't unheard of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They didn't have no CTE. There was no Will Smith movie. | ||
| No one knew what the fuck was going on. | ||
| There was no real sports with Brian Gumbel. | ||
| Nobody had any idea that getting the hit in the head for that long would be that bad for you. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of fascinating when you think about it, but I really do think that the gloves, I think we're doing a huge disservice to the art of fighting. | ||
| Because I think we have unrealistic expectations based on the idea that you could just punch someone with padded knuckles. | ||
| I think if we didn't have padded knuckles, we'd be much more clever in how we use our hands, because you might break your hand at any shot. | ||
| And it would be easier to choke people, so jujitsu would be more effective. | ||
| Two of those things are way better for the athletes. | ||
| And way better for the honest interpretation of what fighting is. | ||
| The problem is no one's gonna agree to that because people from home, they're gonna look at it and go, oh, this is barbaric. | ||
| This is horrible. | ||
| They don't even have gloves on. | ||
| They're bare knuckle. | ||
| Or the first time a guy catches a tooth in his fist and his fist splits open, they're gonna be, oh! | ||
| You catch it in your elbow. | ||
| What's the difference between your fist and your chin? | ||
| You're preaching to the choir with me, but... | ||
| What's the difference between you catching one in your knuckle or catching one on the end of your foot when you kick someone's face sideways? | ||
| You can wheel kick them in the head with your heel, but you can't punch them with bare knuckles. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| It's a dumb rule. | ||
| It's the whole 6 to 12 thing, too. | ||
| That's stupid, too. | ||
| It just doesn't work. | ||
| But I'll leave that. | ||
| I'll leave that and take no gloves any day. | ||
| I really think there should be no gloves. | ||
| I think even for strikers, I think, yeah, man, you pad some dudes up, you fucking give a dude like Tyrone Spawn or- What about gloves? | ||
| Just like protecting your knuckles and skin, but no taping. | ||
| What if that, would you- Why protect your knuckles and skin? | ||
| Why? | ||
| What are we looking at? | ||
| How come you don't do that with elbows? | ||
| How come we don't do that with knees? | ||
| Let me be devil's advocate on that. | ||
| We're looking at exchange of bodily fluids if I punch you in the teeth. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Oh, silly. | ||
| You're getting that from everything. | ||
| You're getting that from arms when you choke people. | ||
| People get bitten when they've been choked. | ||
| When you watch Damian Maia vs. | ||
| Rick's story, he's going right over his face. | ||
| You don't think he's getting a little bit of bite? | ||
| You get bites in your arms. | ||
| They're not even trying to bite you. | ||
| They're trying to breathe, and you're crushing your arm and their teeth. | ||
| Rarely do you see his arm come away bleeding or something. | ||
| I'm saying there's a rare occasion, but far less rare would be if there was no gloves and you're punching a guy in the mouth, you're going to catch them teeth. | ||
| There's going to be a lot more cutting of the hands, too. | ||
| I'm just playing devil's advocate. | ||
| It's a good devil's advocate. | ||
| Here's a solution. | ||
| Double mouth guard. | ||
| Enforce the rule of a double mouth guard, which means that there's a space in the middle. | ||
| The outer version, too? | ||
| Like the football shit? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It goes lower teeth and upper teeth. | ||
| And then you have a space in the middle. | ||
| Bernard Hopkins always used to fight with one of those. | ||
| And it covers your lower teeth and your upper teeth and there's a space in the middle and you breathe through that and you breathe through your nose and you get used to doing that. | ||
| And the lower mouth guard, the problem with having only an upper mouth guard is most people do that, but only an upper mouth guard will work for the most part. | ||
| But there is, if you're bare knuckle, there's a real argument for using an upper and a lower because you're dealing with a different situation. | ||
| Some people have underbites, Joe. | ||
| Well, even then, you would just have it fitted to your face. | ||
| I'm just devil advocating. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| What I'm saying is, that would be the best. | ||
| Shout out to Bernard, though. | ||
| Bernard Hopkins, my favorite fighter of all time, personally. | ||
| Your favorite? | ||
| My favorite. | ||
| He's my favorite. | ||
| You wonder why? | ||
| Your favorite boxer. | ||
| I'll tell you why he's my favorite. | ||
| I'll tell you why he's my favorite. | ||
| First of all, I saw his last fight. | ||
| I was there in the forum, and it was a bummer to me. | ||
| You're better than that, and your fucking career will be forever. | ||
| Because here's when I knew Bernard Hopkins was the fucking man. | ||
| Be Real. | ||
| I've always been surrounded by Latin guys. | ||
| That's just all the dudes I know are Mexican, Cuban, these kind of guys. | ||
| Be Real is one of my best friends on earth. | ||
| Sick Jacket. | ||
| These are all Latin dudes. | ||
| These are all Spanish guys, Mexicans and whatnot. | ||
| So anytime a fight like that would come up, they're all taking the Felix Trinidad or the whoever it was. | ||
| When he was fighting Felix Trinidad, we were all watching at Be Real's house when this motherfucker... | ||
| Took the Puerto Rican flag. | ||
| He was in Puerto Rico Talking shit on Felix Trinidad, at the time, the fucking almighty fucking son of all Puerto Rico, took the Puerto Rican flag, which if you know about Puerto Rican guys, and I know plenty of Puerto Rican guys, you put that flag on anything, they got so much pride. | ||
| They'll buy it, they'll wear it, the flag is everything. | ||
| They get crazy. | ||
| He took this flag in Puerto Rico, threw it on the ground, and stepped on it. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Go back, I'm sure it's on YouTube. | ||
| Where he steps on the Puerto Rican, in Puerto Rico, and I literally told my friends, if he gets off that island, nobody on earth is beating his ass. | ||
| I was like, because they should be trying to fucking kill him right now, if I know anything about Puerto Rican people. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And when he got back, when the fight came that day... | ||
| I bet everybody in B-Real used to throw barbecues every fight. | ||
| That's where we'd be. | ||
| That was our routine. | ||
| Anytime it was a black guy versus any Spanish guy, it could be any kind of Spanish guy, I would always bet against the house and more times than not, I won. | ||
| But like, yo, he stomps on the goddamn flag and got out of that island. | ||
| He threw it. | ||
| He took it away from Felix and threw it on the ground. | ||
| Then he beat his ass. | ||
| I feel like he KO'd it. | ||
| I feel like he KO'd him right there. | ||
| Well, he definitely landed a psychological blow. | ||
| That's where he KO'd him right there. | ||
| Because it's like, if you didn't get stabbed before you got off the island of Puerto Rico, that's a win. | ||
| He put a lot of pressure on himself, though. | ||
| That's why I always knew. | ||
| I was like, the executioner's my man. | ||
| Just for the ball factor of that. | ||
| That's a big ball factor. | ||
| I mean, if you would have pulled that in New York, I would have said, you're fucking crazy. | ||
| In Puerto Rico? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus, man. | ||
| That took huge nuts. | ||
| That took the dude who was in jail for most of his life and was living off commissary donations. | ||
| It was a brilliant performance, too, in that fight. | ||
| He kicked ass. | ||
| Yo, Bernard, until the last... | ||
| He beat the shit out of Phil. | ||
| He beat the shit out of everybody. | ||
| Well, you got to realize he's like 51, which is incredible. | ||
| In this fight, I want to say he was 34 or 35. Well, he was old when he got it going because he had spent so much time in jail. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| What a beautiful counterpunch. | ||
| But you know what they said was always about him is he lived like a monk. | ||
| He was always in training. | ||
| He never fucking partied, never smoked, never drugged. | ||
| No processed foods. | ||
| That's the big thing. | ||
| He was saying he eats very healthy and clean. | ||
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Raw. | |
| He was one of the early advocates of the raw diet kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| He also was a brilliant boxer. | ||
| But I just love the executioner who came out with the mask. | ||
| Dude, you gotta realize, this guy got past... | ||
| He got past 12 rounds with Sergey Kovalev without getting knocked out. | ||
| And he got rocked and dinged several times in that fight. | ||
| He fought Kovalev in his prime. | ||
| Kovalev, who, in my opinion, is top three or four pound for pound in the world. | ||
| I mean, it's arguable who's number one right now. | ||
| It's like a lot of people think it's Lomachenko. | ||
| He won that war fight, dude. | ||
| He won that first war fight. | ||
| He very well could have. | ||
| I feel like he did. | ||
| In my humble opinion, I thought he won. | ||
| In my humble opinion, I agree with you. | ||
| I would have to go over it with a real legitimate boxing judge. | ||
| I mean, I know what I think about boxing, but I don't know. | ||
| Did you see this last Terrence Crawford fight? | ||
| Where he put it on that Cuban or whatever dude? | ||
| Just put the fucking beating on that guy. | ||
| He's in the argument for number one pound for pound in the world. | ||
| I feel like it's Lomachenko. | ||
| Yeah, because Chocolatito got beat, right? | ||
| Controversial fight, but close enough for him to lose the decision. | ||
| I didn't get to see the fight, but I heard it was controversial. | ||
| Some people disagreed with it. | ||
| But what I feel is that Terrence Crawford and Lomachenko are the guys who put it on people to the point where they just run away from it. | ||
| They just set the fight, right? | ||
| They run away from it. | ||
| No, but they just set the big fight. | ||
| The fucking Triple G and Canelo fight. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What you think? | ||
| What you think? | ||
| It's a very important fight. | ||
| It's a very important fight. | ||
| Because, like, you look at how good Canelo looked against who this is with Chavez Jr. Yo, man, come on. | ||
| Let's be real. | ||
| Respect to Pops. | ||
| Respect to Pops all the way. | ||
| I think that kid got stung a few times. | ||
| Yo, Chavez Jr. was never, ever, ever, ever anywhere. | ||
| He shouldn't have been in there. | ||
| The only reason he got in there is because his name was Chavez Jr., man. | ||
| Honestly. | ||
| You're 100% correct, other than the few good... | ||
| He's had some good performances. | ||
| Sergio Martinez. | ||
| Once he got busted for that wee shit, it seemed like after that, it was downhill. | ||
| The kid just didn't care anymore. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I equate it to this. | ||
| Personally, I don't know the guy. | ||
| I'm not assuming. | ||
| My take on it. | ||
| He just got tired of fucking trying to be the fucking, his dad, what, a hundred and something? | ||
| And how many losses? | ||
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Just a couple? | |
| His dad was one of the greatest of all time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why when I hear this, Floyd Mayweather, like 40 and something old, didn't dude go like 70 something, you know? | ||
| Why does that not count as much? | ||
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No, he didn't. | |
| He didn't. | ||
| He didn't. | ||
| Am I tripping? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Am I following for a Facebook fake news? | ||
| What was the, what was, just Google what was Julio Cesar Chavez's record before he lost. | ||
| Was that including amateur fights or something? | ||
| Well, Lomachenko has only had one amateur loss. | ||
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That guy's a badass. | |
| I mean, he's got one professional loss, one amateur loss. | ||
| There's very few guys that I check in boxing because I've become such a UFC fan. | ||
| I'm like, I'm some cast. | ||
| I have friends, like my buddy Vinny Paz from this group. | ||
| I love Vinny Paz. | ||
| Yeah, he fucking hates MMA, dude. | ||
| He fucking hates it, dude. | ||
| He says that, I'll take him to the fights. | ||
| Vinny Paz, I'm a boxing fan too. | ||
| Please, Vinny Paz, please, Joe. | ||
| Vinny, come to the fights with me. | ||
| Be on a team, Vinny Paz. | ||
| Hey, Joe, I'm there that day when Vinny Paz comes. | ||
| Open invitation, Vinny Paz. | ||
| Open invitation. | ||
| Vinny Paz, what do you do in July? | ||
| July 8th. | ||
| July 8th? | ||
| Isn't that it? | ||
| I don't think I'll be back, but if he wants to go, go. | ||
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| I want to be there, but if you change that opinion... | ||
| He's a boxing, but he is a fucking aficionado. | ||
| He loves the boxing game. | ||
| I know he is. | ||
| But he like disrespects the MMA game to a certain degree where I'm like, okay with your little comments, dude. | ||
| You know this is real fighting. | ||
| You know in the streets, Floyd Mayweather would get his fucking ass busted by Conor McGregor. | ||
| It wouldn't even be close. | ||
| It wouldn't even be close. | ||
| It would be a destruction. | ||
| It would be Conor McGregor grating Floyd Mayweather's face into the pavement like parmesan cheese. | ||
| That's what it would be. | ||
| He would just rip his legs out. | ||
| He would just rip his legs out. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| If Floyd didn't tag him with a knockout punch in the first few seconds of the fight, Conor would be way away from him kicking his legs out. | ||
| Hands outstretched. | ||
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I read this article, I don't know, you probably saw it, about like, what if. | |
| It was like a what if article. | ||
| What if Conor took the fight with Mayweather and just came out, picked him up, slammed him on the fucking ground and dismantled him and like ripped his arms just to do it. | ||
| He could do it. | ||
| I mean, he really could do it if he wanted to take him down and just strangle him. | ||
| Just to be like, yeah, okay, I lost all the money and everything, but I still kicked his ass. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| MMA destroys fucking boxing. | ||
| He would go to jail or something would happen because there would be, here's the problem, there'd be betting, right? | ||
| There'd be all these people that bet against it. | ||
| What do you do there? | ||
| Because Floyd wins by disqualification. | ||
| You knew you were going to do this, so you didn't go into this with good faith. | ||
| Class action lawsuit against Conor McGregor. | ||
| Wow, you're taking a what-if article way too far. | ||
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That's what I do, dude. | |
| That's what I do with everything. | ||
| Trying to say like that would be funny. | ||
| That's what I do with everything. | ||
| It's my problem. | ||
| No, I love it. | ||
| I go deep. | ||
| Too deep. | ||
| No such thing, man. | ||
| It's going to be an interesting fight if they fight. | ||
| I think she should fight with no gloves. | ||
| See what the fuck's really going on. | ||
| Hey, one other thing real quick, since I'm really, Joe started me drinking whiskey before the podcast at 2 in the afternoon. | ||
| That's his idea. | ||
| I ain't mad at you. | ||
| Come on, don't act like you didn't say let's drink some whiskey. | ||
| Now, if you expect Neverlast to say no to let's drink some whiskey, then you have made the faux pas. | ||
| But what I want to say real quick, because I've been drinking and I haven't been there in a while either, my good friend Jason Ellis just won his King of the Cage match a week ago. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| By submission, right? | ||
| Yes, he won outright by submission. | ||
| Congratulations, my dude. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| You fucking worked hard for that. | ||
| That inspires me. | ||
| That kind of shit inspires me. | ||
| When I see Jason do that, I'm like, fuck, I'm making a lot of excuses for shit. | ||
| He did real strength and conditioning with Nick Kurson. | ||
| First of all, he beat up a couple MMA guys. | ||
| I mean, Gabe Rudabar, whatever. | ||
| I was there when he beat him up. | ||
| It wasn't a flu. | ||
| I watched it. | ||
| He beat him up. | ||
| That's a guy who actually fights whatever you want to say about all the weight cuts he missed on the Ultimate Fightership. | ||
| That guy's a professional fighter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jason beat the shit out of him and knocked him out! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| When I heard about this fight, I was texting him like, you're gonna win this fight, dude. | ||
| I know you're gonna win, but yo, you fucking won that fight, dawg. | ||
| Real deal. | ||
| Love you. | ||
| Congrats. | ||
| Yeah, and did everything he had to do. | ||
| Like, did the real shit to get in shape. | ||
| That's why I'm saying he's inspired. | ||
| That kind of guy's inspiring to me, man, because what he does is he chooses something and he says, I'm gonna commit to it. | ||
| There's this... | ||
| I was saying I think earlier I'm here because I followed road signs and I just I I consider myself Adept at reading the signs of life and where I'm put when there's the the forks in the road I happen to be good at making the right choice There's certain guys that don't give a fuck about the fork in the road and determine their own fucking path and decide you're kind of one of those dudes And I admire that in a way. | ||
| I mean, I admire what I do. | ||
| I know I recognize there's a skill and a talent and a blessing in what I do, but there's something about being able to decide something and fucking make it so, even though maybe it's not supposed to be so. | ||
| And that is my next... | ||
| Chasing life maybe not to it if I even if I don't achieve it to understand it how it's possible How could I be that guy? | ||
| How could at 20 maybe I have understood a little bit differently? | ||
| So maybe by the time I'm 70 God willing It's an illusion. | ||
| This is the illusion. | ||
| The illusion is that you're looking at the ultimate results from your perspective and you're saying, how do I tune myself in? | ||
| How do I get totally connected with what I really want to do and not be influenced by the opinions and the ideas of others? | ||
| How do I find my true sweet spot? | ||
| Right? | ||
| The problem is we all look at other people's destination. | ||
| Again, like that crazy quote that comparison is the enemy of joy. | ||
| It's really kind of the same thing. | ||
| The thief of joy. | ||
| Yeah, the thief of joy. | ||
| The whole key, I think, to anything you do, whether you're a guy who makes furniture or a woman who paints or whatever the fuck you do, whether you're a rapper or a blues singer or a stand-up comedian or an author, whatever the fuck. | ||
| Fuck you do. | ||
| The thing is, and this is a cliche expression, but there's a reason why people keep expressing it over and over again. | ||
| Get out of your own way. | ||
| Half of the reason why you're not tuning in perfectly to whatever fucking vibration is available to you in the universe is you get in your own fucking way. | ||
| You get in your own way with insecurity and with ego and with expectation and with pressure and with all the different judgments you cast on different forms of art that you may or may not like. | ||
| Like, you're wasting time. | ||
| You're wasting energy. | ||
| It's clogging up your gears. | ||
| You only have a certain amount. | ||
| You got to manage your attention the way you would manage oxygen if you were in a spaceship. | ||
| You got to say, I can't give away this stuff to bullshit. | ||
| I can't be sitting around wondering if, you know, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| If it's not relevant to your life, you're wasting way too much time thinking about this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let me come at you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this is personal. | ||
| This is personal. | ||
| I accept everything you just said as truth, but let me throw a personal angle at you. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| I want to be in much better shape. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We can do that. | ||
| We can get that. | ||
| No, hear me. | ||
| Let me get to the circumstances. | ||
| I have a life that presents me with a lot of problems that can... | ||
| Make emotional conflictions with what I'm trying to achieve in life. | ||
| Legitimate ones. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Cause certain... | ||
| I won't call myself ever depressed because I don't like that word. | ||
| I mean, I do get depressed, but I don't want to use the word like, oh, I had depression. | ||
| I think a lot of people lean on some shit and like try to actually milk it in, especially in media. | ||
| Do you want to see something right now before you keep talking that's going to change your life? | ||
| That's going to like lock into exactly what you're saying and show you the way? | ||
| You don't even know what I'm going to finish saying, but yes. | ||
| I'm going to show you the way. | ||
| Jamie, go to my Twitter page and pull that Jocko good. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| This is very important, my friend. | ||
|
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Please. | |
| This is very important. | ||
| I trust in you enough to be like, okay. | ||
| Back in from the beginning. | ||
| I won't take offense to you near the finish of my story. | ||
| Bring it to the beginning and put it up on the screen. | ||
| As long as before we're done, we're at least going to play one more Warpoint video because I promised my guys. | ||
| Give us some volume. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
|
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One of my... | |
| Direct subordinates one of my guys that worked for me he would he would call me up or pull me aside with some major problems some issue that was going on And he'd say boss we got this and that and the other thing and I look at him and I'd say good and Finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having some problem and He said I already know what you're gonna say I Said well, what am I gonna say? | ||
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He said you're gonna say good and He said, that's what you always say. | |
| When something is wrong and going bad, you always just look at me and say, good. | ||
| And I said, well, yeah. | ||
| When things are going bad, there's gonna be some good that's gonna come from it. | ||
| Didn't get the new high-speed gear we wanted? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Didn't get promoted. | ||
| Good. | ||
| More time to get better. | ||
| Oh, mission got cancelled? | ||
| Good. | ||
| We can focus on another one. | ||
| Didn't get funded. | ||
| Didn't get the job you wanted. | ||
| Got injured. | ||
| Sprained my ankle. | ||
| Got tapped out? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Got beat? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Learned. | ||
| Unexpected problems? | ||
| Good. | ||
| We have the opportunity to figure out a solution. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| When things are going bad, Don't get all bummed out. | ||
| Don't get startled. | ||
| Don't get frustrated. | ||
| If you can say the word good, guess what? | ||
| It means you're still alive. | ||
| It means you're still breathing. | ||
| And if you're still breathing, well now, you still got some fight left in you. | ||
| So get up, dust off, Reload. | ||
| Recalibrate. | ||
| Re-engage. | ||
| And go out on the attack. | ||
| Jocko Willink changing motherfuckers lives right now live in America. | ||
| Coming to you from Southern California. | ||
| Play Jocko right now. | ||
| I've got goosebumps. | ||
| Play Jocko right now. | ||
| My kids got pneumonia and are fucking left Lund to a degree that nobody fucking knows what to do and fucking even the doctors are perplexed. | ||
| Well, you're right about that. | ||
| What he's talking about is overcoming things. | ||
| This is my question. | ||
| This is why I was saying, I'm not asking for sympathy. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| All I'm saying, I actually came on this show today to say if something in this realm, if somebody in the Valley area or LA greater area, my Twitter's OG Everlast, my fucking, everything's the same. | ||
| OG Everlast or Eric Schrody on Facebook. | ||
| Legitimate. | ||
| I need a little help. | ||
| I need a little help in the sense that I want to be in better shape, but I travel so much, and then at home is a stress of like, I want to go to the gym. | ||
| I couldn't go to the fucking gym for the last 10 days. | ||
| It was either me or my wife at the fucking hospital. | ||
| No, no, no, Joe, I don't want to make you feel bad at all. | ||
| I want to say it's like, that was beautiful. | ||
| Who is that guy again? | ||
| Jocko Willink. | ||
| Jocko Willink. | ||
| That is fucking supremely motivational on any level, except what I'm trying to say is like, skating your way around this fucking kind of emotional fucking dilemma of like, it's hard. | ||
| Of course it's hard. | ||
| And I'm here saying it's hard. | ||
| I'm actually bringing it up to say, I'm failing in certain ways at what I'm trying to achieve. | ||
| And so like, that's what I mean when I say I see it. | ||
| Jason, and I know... | ||
| Again, I got a little extra. | ||
| I got a little extra to deal with. | ||
| My backpack has a little more weight emotionally and mentally, okay? | ||
| But I'm not making that an excuse. | ||
| What I'm saying is, how do I be more like that? | ||
| I want that. | ||
| I'm asking. | ||
| Well, what he's giving you is opportunities. | ||
| He's talking about very specific situations, giving you opportunities to recover from those situations. | ||
| I'm fucked up. | ||
| I'm fucked up. | ||
| It's when it's this other thing. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| There's a whole different level of mental challenge to that. | ||
| I'm not saying what he's saying is wrong. | ||
| I'm not saying it doesn't work, but how do I find that in that? | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| It's what he's proposing, the principles that he's proposing. | ||
| And if he has the answer, please fucking holler at me. | ||
| No, listen, man. | ||
| The principles that he's proposing when he's saying that, you can apply them to everything. | ||
| Figure out how you can take whatever situation you're in and improve your position. | ||
| I could do 400 curls a day and be as buff as Joe Rogan. | ||
| I can. | ||
| How do I get there? | ||
| I don't do that many curls. | ||
| I'm making fucking... | ||
| I don't even do any curls. | ||
| You're acting like literal with this literal... | ||
| Don't get literal with me. | ||
| All right? | ||
| Because I'm drinking whiskey, you're drinking water. | ||
| That's whiskey. | ||
| I only got to drive a block, you got to drive however far. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Someone's comparing. | ||
| I'll walk. | ||
| I'll walk. | ||
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The thief of joy has crept into our travel plans. | |
| I was actually just meant to be like a little... | ||
| I want that. | ||
| I found that very motivating. | ||
| But what I'm saying is there's this hurdle of Lieutenant Dan that's got some real fucking anger issues. | ||
| I'm working them out. | ||
| I'm working on them. | ||
| Hey, the whiskey... | ||
| I'm being more honest than I even thought I would be today. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You don't get on a fucking platform like Joe Rogan and say, hey, I'm failing at this, unless you're fucking trying to do something about it, you know what I mean? | ||
| I want to achieve I don't want to be you, but I'm like, I see the way I've been watching. | ||
| You know what I'm saying. | ||
| But I've been watching your videos about running. | ||
| About running. | ||
| I do a lot of it. | ||
| Another thing that has also gotten to me and gets me when I do get to work out, it's because I hear Joe Rogan tell me, don't let the inner bitch fucking get you. | ||
| And that's been a big motivator for me. | ||
| But it's not an inner bitch to be disturbed and upset and your life upheaved by this thing. | ||
| It's absolutely not. | ||
| Do you feel where I'm coming from, right? | ||
| I think, but what he's saying in this video, what is applicable, and you can argue whether or not Some of it's not. | ||
| But I'm asking on a personal level. | ||
| I said on a personal level. | ||
| And I'm not trying to argue with you or be argumentative. | ||
| As I'm saying on a personal level, that's the level of it with it. | ||
| The level of that. | ||
| That inspirational message is great. | ||
| But I'm struggling. | ||
| Of course you are. | ||
| With this part of it. | ||
| Like, how do I... Broken and snapped by a guy who tapped me out or or life just kicked my ass and I didn't get the job or the Opportunity I wanted and good I understand that but I am personally struggling with Not using this as an excuse, | ||
| but the truthful, emotional fucking agony of seeing a child tell you, and not just tell you, but go through this hospital of the last two weeks, these things of like, how do I be stronger? | ||
| And what I'm saying, I'm not being argumentative with you again, is saying, please, if you've got a book, tweet it to me. | ||
| If you're the dude who fucking is local and says, I know how to help you, plus, I understand I have a heart valve replacement. | ||
| My workout situation... | ||
| How does that work out work out? | ||
| Are you allowed to push your cardio? | ||
| I can work out, but let me tell you why working out gets weird for me. | ||
| I'll start. | ||
| I'll do good. | ||
| I'll drop 15 pounds. | ||
| Bang! | ||
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Boom! | |
| Boom! | ||
| And then I'll start to push myself. | ||
| I'll I'll get distrustful of my own heart like a pain or a tinge that really might not be anything will come along and fucking scare the shit out of me because there's nothing I never was afraid of anything in my life Until I had children and the only thing I'm afraid of on this planet is not being here for my children My life or death. | ||
| I do not care. | ||
| I've died twice literally I don't care about that. | ||
| But now there's this fear of these children, these girls, not even boys. | ||
| I honestly even feel I would feel differently if I had two boys. | ||
| Like, they'll be alright. | ||
| I can instill the manly shit into them while I'm here. | ||
| But my girls, my biggest fear in life is not being here for them. | ||
| And I'm good. | ||
| I'm healthy. | ||
| Except for about 25 pounds of weight. | ||
| I'm actually, my blood works, all that. | ||
| My doctors are all very happy with me. | ||
| It's the only complaint they ever have. | ||
| And the only complaint I ever have is I have some back pains. | ||
| Sometimes I don't sleep. | ||
| It's all weight related. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Let me stop you with all this talk. | ||
| Because you have a lot of reasons why things aren't working physically the way you would like them to work. | ||
| And I'm asking for help. | ||
| I'm definitely saying, yes, I would like help. | ||
| I understand you are. | ||
| But there's too much extra energy spent on things that aren't helping you. | ||
| I know you have these time constraints, but to focus on them is counterproductive. | ||
| Because you have the time constraints, the time constraints rob you of your time, and then the focusing on the time constraints and the agony of those time constraints and the fucking frustration of having those time constraints robs you of more time and more energy. | ||
| You've just got to accept it. | ||
| You've got to be zen about it. | ||
| I'm working on it. | ||
| He's a comedian from Boston. | ||
| His name is Tony Veen. | ||
| He said something to me once that's very important. | ||
| And it applied to the rest of my life. | ||
| And it was a very simple statement. | ||
| He was driving from Boston to New York several times a week, several times, for some job he got. | ||
| And I'm like, how do you do that? | ||
| And he goes, you know what I found? | ||
| When I get in the car, I just go zen. | ||
| I say, this is what I'm doing. | ||
| I don't concern myself with the fact of it. | ||
| Wash the dishes to wash the dishes. | ||
| I don't concern myself with the fact that I can't believe I have to do this. | ||
| Oh my God, woe is me. | ||
| He goes, I just do it. | ||
| And then I thought about that that day and then I applied that to my life because that's the best advice anybody could ever get if anybody was doing anything they don't like to do. | ||
| Of course you don't like to do it, but to concentrate on the fact that you don't like to do it compounds the not like to do it aspect of it. | ||
| It makes it worse. | ||
| No. | ||
| Actually, what you're describing is actually a lot of the stuff I'm reading right now, which is like the art of mindfulness, which is, again, when I keep saying wash the dishes to wash the dishes, it's kind of like saying exactly that. | ||
| Like, wash your dishes to wash your dishes. | ||
| Don't wash your dishes to get to the next thing, because then you're not living life. | ||
| You're not breathing, you're not living in your moment. | ||
| So I'm working on that. | ||
| But at the same time, I'm still saying, like, also, you know what? | ||
| I found... | ||
| In the last couple years, especially through the little social media that I managed to be successful at, that people want to know the real deal. | ||
| Shit ain't fucking perfect over here. | ||
| There's a lot of things about me I'd like to be better. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Just because I make good money and I ain't hungry. | ||
| I could eat filet mignon and all that every night. | ||
| I do live really nice. | ||
| I'm very fucking grateful for my life. | ||
| But... | ||
| There's a lot of fucking dark you don't see that if you saw, maybe you wouldn't... | ||
| All this fakery. | ||
| There's a lot of fake, like Instagram. | ||
| Everything's fake. | ||
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Are you talking about Little Bow Wow? | |
| How dare you. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Bring up Little Bow Wow. | ||
| Yeah, you know what? | ||
| That is... | ||
| Jamie's been bringing up Little Bow Wow nonstop. | ||
| That's the cherry on top of fucking fuckery. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what? | ||
| He got called out for... | ||
| He was on a flight. | ||
| At least he was on a plane in first class. | ||
| Was he even? | ||
| It seemed like business at least. | ||
| I fly business. | ||
| I don't fly first. | ||
| I fly business. | ||
| As long as I can lay down, as long as the tape, things like this when I fly to Europe, I'm cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, and the few times I have flown private, I Instagrammed that shit. | ||
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Did you? | |
| Hell yeah, because I don't fly private, dude. | ||
| I know what it really costs. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It ain't cheap. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| You know, when I holler at Dana like, hey, can I catch a lift in this flight and I don't get a response back? | ||
| I know it ain't cheap. | ||
| Because that's my dude! | ||
| If it was cheap, he'd be like, yeah, come on! | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I think they have to log you in and make a reason why Everlast is flying. | ||
| Why is Everlast going, man? | ||
| Because you play my song in every event. | ||
| How's that? | ||
| Is that good enough? | ||
| That's important. | ||
| Every event. | ||
| And I love Dana for that. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| I love that fucking 35 cents I get for that shit every time. | ||
| Is that what you get? | ||
| Probably something in that area. | ||
| If it's one time in an arena. | ||
| Arena only pays 35 cents? | ||
| Well, the radio only pays five, so I'm just assuming... | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
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Ah! | |
| Every time your song gets played on the radio, you get five cents. | ||
| Basically, somewhere in that neighborhood. | ||
| Somewhere between five and ten, probably. | ||
| What a weird deal. | ||
| Hey, dude, it gets played a lot because of the checks. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| The checks are fat because you're dealing with a lot of countries, a lot of humans, seven billion people. | ||
| That five cents adds the fuck up. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Mailbox money, we call that. | ||
| It's a good way to describe it. | ||
| But like I said, you know what I mean? | ||
| It's just like, hey man, I'm honestly like saying, hey, throw it out there. | ||
| There's somebody local. | ||
| Yo, my diet is working on that. | ||
| I told you, soda is my fucking enemy. | ||
| None. | ||
| That's my bane of my existence. | ||
| Think of them as crack. | ||
| It is crack. | ||
| Coca-Cola is my crack. | ||
| Don't ingest poison. | ||
| Do you drink coffee in the morning? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I hate coffee. | ||
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I drink a Coca-Cola. | |
| I read a story that said it makes you live forever. | ||
| What was the article that I retweeted? | ||
| I said, I want to believe. | ||
| It said, coffee can make you live longer. | ||
| I didn't even read it. | ||
| I read that article for like half a paragraph. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
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Fake news. | |
| I might have got into paragraph number two before I clicked my email. | ||
| Let's play another war porn video because it's fucking dope. | ||
| Let's play another war porn video, Jamie. | ||
| Plus, I got to pee bad. | ||
| But I'll be right back. | ||
| You need whiskey bladder, brother. | ||
| This one's called Dazed. | ||
| Dazed, this was the second one. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| With dust ending up with ass to ashes Warrior shit bending up for gangsta clashes No choice in the street ring, but dance like classes. | ||
| That stinking move, with the sickest crews. | ||
| Walking street by that wall with the clicker tune. | ||
| Paranoid on that rock and the liquor tune. | ||
| Go to college, graduate when you hit the shoe. | ||
| Shoe lead, so hot like Zeppelin. | ||
| A spark in the dark can light up your whole residence. | ||
| Apartment building, seek shelter, bullet, hold the evidence. | ||
| Romanticizing violence, giving death a little elegant. | ||
| Days are confused. | ||
| How wrong is my truth? | ||
| My truth. | ||
| Days are confused. | ||
| Days are confused. | ||
| Days. Days. Days. Days. | ||
| Days. | ||
| Whoa. . . | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Perfect timing. | ||
| Perfect timing. | ||
| And you're back. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Had to release some whiskey. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I did as well. | ||
| Shout out to Vaughn Styler. | ||
| He did all the tracks for the Warped. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I gave him like four already, but still. | ||
| I think this is the most shout outs on a podcast. | ||
| Well, I'm going to say shout out Joe Rogan. | ||
| How you like that? | ||
| What up? | ||
| Shout out to Everlast. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Shout out Evie Bravo. | ||
| Shout out Tate Fletcher. | ||
| Hottest podcast I ever did in my life. | ||
| Get some fucking air conditioning in that building, man. | ||
|
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Is it hot in here? | |
| Where? | ||
| No, no, not here. | ||
| No, at Eddie's spot. | ||
| Oh, Eddie Bravo's spot? | ||
| And there was like 400 water bottles when I did his shit. | ||
| Yeah, they don't have them made. | ||
| I love that dude. | ||
| Is that Van Nuys? | ||
| Yeah, over there somewhere. | ||
| Not far from the Spearmint Rhino. | ||
|
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Shh! | |
| Keep it down. | ||
| People are going to find him. | ||
| Yeah, he's, uh, what's hilarious, I did it once, and there was a dude playing drum solos next door. | ||
| Like, some dude in the building next door was playing the drums, you could hear it through the fucking walls, like, Jesus, dude. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense, yeah, it was kind of a rehearsal studio. | ||
| And I was like, dude, does this happen often? | ||
| He's like, sometimes it happens. | ||
| You know, he's got to get his Smoke Serpent remixes on, you know? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| That's my dude. | ||
| I like that guy. | ||
| He keeps offering me, introduced me to a dude out there in Corona, near where I live. | ||
| To work out? | ||
| He said he got a black belt out there that wants me in. | ||
| To jiu-jitsu? | ||
| You know, I was doing a little Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with Marcus Venesis over at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| I was literally probably one lesson away from my blue belt when I just, everything, I kind of went haywire in my life. | ||
| Layla was born and all this stuff happened. | ||
| And I kind of moved south. | ||
| I didn't live here anymore. | ||
| Well, you're friends with Joey Diaz. | ||
| You should go with Joey. | ||
| Joey does it in Burbank. | ||
| If you can make it up to Burbank a couple days a week. | ||
| I live an hour and a half fucking way. | ||
|
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Oh, okay. | |
| I'll find a place near you. | ||
| And what I want is privates. | ||
| I'll set up my garage with a little pad system. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| I know it doesn't happen often, but anything like staff or anything like that is so dangerous for Layla that it's really scary. | ||
| So like working out in a gym with like 40 guys working out, there's two frightening things for me working out in a normal jiu-jitsu class. | ||
| The fucking average novice that doesn't realize he's fucking stupid and fucking pulls my left arm out or my right arm out and I can't play guitar for fucking six weeks or six months even. | ||
| So I only train with the teachers. | ||
| That's my way. | ||
| I just say, hey, I'll pay for that, whatever, a little extra of private, whatever. | ||
| But obviously, Eddie doesn't live out that way. | ||
| But he told me, he was like, I got a fucking guy out there who's awesome. | ||
| He's a fucking black belt. | ||
| He's fucking awesome. | ||
| I haven't followed up as much as he hasn't gotten back. | ||
| It's not like he's ignoring me or anything. | ||
| I'm just saying I gotta follow through on that and get that going too. | ||
| I've lost about 15 pounds, honestly, with all this talk we're saying. | ||
| It's called the Great American Worry Diet. | ||
| Worry? | ||
| Yeah, worry. | ||
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Spend a week in the hospital and lose 15 pounds. | |
| Especially at one that doesn't serve meat or caffeine. | ||
| Shout out to the Seventh Day Adventists who don't eat meat or caffeine in the most stressful situations ever. | ||
| No meat, no caffeine. | ||
| But you know, honestly, I won't even say they took such amazing care of my daughter. | ||
| I love every single one of them. | ||
| That's awesome, man. | ||
| They're non-meating, non-coffee drinking asses. | ||
| I love them all. | ||
| Maybe try that diet. | ||
| Just keep riding it. | ||
| It's working. | ||
| It's working so far. | ||
| It's working right now, right? | ||
| You said sodas, but is there anything else? | ||
| I'll do without the worry, though. | ||
| The worry part of the worry diet is the hard part. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's the reason of what I kind of brought up earlier. | ||
| How do you get around that? | ||
| How do you get around worrying about your own kid? | ||
| You're going to have to read some books on strategies. | ||
| Yeah, I'm trying. | ||
| How to do that. | ||
| What have you read? | ||
| I'm trying, but I'm also here. | ||
| I'm feeling myself. | ||
| I've smoked a little. | ||
| I've drank a little. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I trust the Joe Rogan person and his audience that, hey, if there's an interesting idea out there, go ahead and shoot it at me. | ||
| I'm sure someone will find you. | ||
| Hey, and I know I'm going to get like 400 fucking shitty ideas, but if there's one good one out there, Great. | ||
| Yeah, there's gonna be dudes who recommend video games. | ||
| Hey, fucking GTA 5 fucking solved all my problems, dude. | ||
| Jump rope, bro. | ||
| Jump rope and virtual reality. | ||
| Hey, ping pong, dude. | ||
| Ping pong changed my life, man. | ||
| You know, you've been given a very difficult test by whatever, by life itself. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| The truth of the matter is, is up until that, Man, I had an easy ride. | ||
| Okay, so don't feel bad for me. | ||
| But if you got a suggestion, please shoot it my way. | ||
| Because I'm at this point in life where it's like I've understood, again, the communal. | ||
| I think beyond the music lesson of it being communal, as a human being, we are communal people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it even hails back to the beginning of what we talked about, the blues and the reds. | ||
| They are trying to separate us because we're communal. | ||
| And if we all actually sat down, even the most fucking worst opinion over there and the worst opinion over there, if we were all in the room together, we could find somewhere over here where we could both at least be the least bit angry at each other. | ||
| I honestly think we should eliminate political parties. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I think what we should have is just a bunch of people with varying... | ||
| Pull money out of politics. | ||
| Varying ideologies. | ||
| Pull money... | ||
| Let's hear an interesting idea. | ||
| Here's an interesting idea about England, alright? | ||
| England announces their elections. | ||
| There are three months. | ||
| From the announcement of the elections till the election for you to legally campaign. | ||
| Why is that good? | ||
| It's better because, again, hailing back to what we said earlier, the day after the president's elected, it seems like they're talking about who's going to run in 2020 already. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hey, we might be in a particularly weird circumstance now in America. | ||
| Again, I won't even delve into that. | ||
| What I want to say is, The day after our president is elected, we shouldn't be talking about who's going to be the next fucking president until that guy fucks up enough to say who's going to be the next president. | ||
| There should be this... | ||
| And again, we are in some extremely absurd and weird circumstances at the moment, but under normal circumstances, my argument would just be... | ||
| We're Americans. | ||
| This guy got elected through the process we all agreed to. | ||
| And even now, I'll say that, but dudes already fucking... | ||
| Again, that's why I don't want to visit that, because that's a whole fucking four hours on its own, honestly. | ||
| And I just don't want to even go there, but... | ||
| Give America a fucking chance. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Am I making any sense? | ||
| You're making sense. | ||
| Because I've had like four whiskeys now, brother. | ||
| I mean, what your idea is of America versus what everybody else's idea. | ||
| We need to come to some sort of clarification. | ||
| My idea is this, and I don't mean to interrupt you. | ||
| My idea is this, is that you could be the furthest away from me you could be. | ||
| And I could be way over there. | ||
| But if we were in the same room, somewhere in here, we'd find a place that we'd be like, all right. | ||
| I can live with that. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| We need to figure out what these things are that we're talking about living with, because I don't think there's very many of them that we're really disagreeing on between the left and the right. | ||
| I think there's a lot of bullshit, and I think it's a lot of what we were talking about earlier, this tribal bullshit, dig our heels in the sand. | ||
| The people who elected this personal president right now... | ||
| Personal president? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, the personal president. | ||
| It's a personal president. | ||
| This is a very few amount of people. | ||
| There's really, truly very few people that are his base. | ||
| 35%? | ||
| Let's keep it real. | ||
| Let's keep it fucking real. | ||
| Yeah, because a lot of bailed on them because they realized what they voted for was not what they fought. | ||
| They voted in protest almost. | ||
| A lot of people. | ||
| What's his approval rate? | ||
| It's pretty low, right? | ||
| It's fucking the lowest in history. | ||
| Is it the lowest in history? | ||
| And again, I don't care. | ||
| What I'm saying is like a lot of people said fuck the whole system and for a second they bought into the fact that this guy actually might think the same when this guy spent his entire life fucking over the working class dude. | ||
| In fact, as much as I would have voted the other direction for whatever you want to say, and again, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Fuck about Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I'm not telling you the fucking world would have been saved by Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Fuck that shit. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| That was an entitled motherfucking person who was only given that fucking position because for some reason the elite of that party thought it was her turn or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That was wrong. | ||
| That's just as much their fault for losing as fucking... | ||
| We really shouldn't be talking about politics. | ||
| We're way too stupid. | ||
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Fuck it. | |
| It's already there. | ||
| I'm drunk. | ||
| What I'm saying is this. | ||
| That dude is going to give me a tax break if he's successful. | ||
| And the guys that actually voted for him, the union guys and the fucking working class guys, are going to get fucked over. | ||
| And at the end of the day, they'll be regretting it. | ||
| As much as some of the things he's spitting at you and saying to you are appealing, he's not that fucking guy. | ||
| Just like, fuck Hillary Clinton, fuck Donald Trump. | ||
| So you can't be mad at me. | ||
| Fuck all of them. | ||
| Bernie Sanders was probably our most logical choice, but I said fuck him because I read his tax plan and he would have fucking raped me! | ||
| So, it's like, there's got to be, I don't know, there's got to be a whole new system where the money is, there has to be a flat tax kind of thing where every fucking person from corporation, the problem is too many corporations are considered legally people. | ||
| Dude, we're talking way too much about politics. | ||
| You're freaking me the fuck out. | ||
| I can't do this anymore! | ||
| Jamie! | ||
| I'm here. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| I'm just saying, this is, as a person, it's not politics. | ||
| It's like, explore the fact that they're separating and dividing. | ||
| You could be a white supremacist, you could be a black fucking nationalist, whatever you want to be. | ||
| They're fucking playing on that. | ||
| They're playing on that. | ||
| This is designed. | ||
| Facebook, all that, these algorithms are fucking designed to design. | ||
| What do you want to see on your page? | ||
| Remember that. | ||
| Please, we'll end this conversation right now. | ||
| If everybody will just remember that. | ||
| Do you think that's a conspiracy? | ||
| No, I just think it's a fact of the way they set up programs. | ||
| They set up a program to say, what's going to be most... | ||
| Like, the guy who invented Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, whoever's his team, whoever's his team, wants the people who use his product to be the happiest they can be with it. | ||
| Correct? | ||
| I'm assuming, yeah. | ||
| Here's the direction we're going with this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Right? | ||
| So, if they look at the things you click on and start developing a pattern in an algorithm, and you click on these extremely right things, or you click on these extremely left things, sooner or later, that's all that's going to be on your page. | ||
| Instagram even changed their fucking algorithm to it's not like what was just last posted. | ||
| It's what was last posted that's most popular and what's appealing to you that you like. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's where I'm going with this. | ||
| These people don't understand. | ||
| You're being catered to. | ||
| You're being fed. | ||
| You're being fed ideas. | ||
| You want to be fed. | ||
| You're not being challenged. | ||
| And I've always said this about even personal my art. | ||
| It goes back to being in a room by yourself and why I got stagnated with making a record. | ||
| If there's not somebody in that room somehow to challenge your idea, your idea isn't the best it can be. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| I understand what you're saying, but I think that an alternative point of view would not be that you're getting fed. | ||
| Would that be these algorithms recognize your interests? | ||
| And whether it's golf or South American fishing or fucking skydiving, whatever the fuck you're interested in, you start searching for that, it'll give you things that you can- But it's not just what you're searching, it's what you're liking. | ||
| And it's like you're saying, the conversations that you've best had in your life are almost alternative opinions. | ||
| And those start getting filtered out of your feed. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's only your own choices. | ||
| If you choose to go, why don't you just search out things that are alternative to what your perspective is? | ||
| Because you're Joe Rogan and you think like that. | ||
| We're talking about the guy who works fucking 40 hours a week, who gets on Facebook and sees what comes down his feed. | ||
| I'm telling that guy that he's no different than you or me. | ||
| I hope he's listening to you. | ||
| I hope he is. | ||
| I hope he's listening to you, but you hear what I'm saying though, right? | ||
| It's not a fucking dismissed idea that there's guys who got their heads fucking down just trying to get their paycheck for the next week to get their fucking mortgage paid, and they look up for a long enough time, and maybe Facebook is the one thing they look at a week, and then that's where they get their information from. | ||
| Yeah, but that's not Facebook's fault. | ||
| That Facebook creates an algorithm that reinforces what your interests are. | ||
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Did I blame Facebook? | |
| I'm saying be aware. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| But you're saying it also in the way of like, almost like these people are victims of this. | ||
| This is just a simple algorithm that picks up. | ||
| They're victims of themselves. | ||
| But it's not even they're victims of themselves. | ||
| But they're not even aware that they're victims of themselves. | ||
| And they are. | ||
| They're creating their own universe. | ||
| They are completely creating and this thing is allowing that. | ||
| You can block whatever you want out if you don't want to see something. | ||
| You can create and what do they call it in the fucking, curate your own universe. | ||
| Let me tell you something about resistance. | ||
| What I find interesting... | ||
| Like Keith Olbermann resistance? | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| He's sometimes... | ||
| Okay, he can be a propagandist, too. | ||
| He's a propagandist, too, like Michael Moore. | ||
| There's no true center right now. | ||
| That's why I keep coming back to, like, how do you know what's truly true? | ||
| And you want to know where I find truth? | ||
| Where? | ||
| Comedians. | ||
| Comedians are the new punk rock. | ||
| Comedians, truthfully, are the people who are challenging the status quo right now. | ||
| Whether you're talking about the guy on HBO who has the Last Week Tonight show or the Daily Show kind of news, more Americans, and this is a studied fact, trust comedic news as truth than they do fucking Anderson fucking Vanderbilt Cooper. | ||
| Vanderbilt. | ||
| He's a Vanderbilt. | ||
| Middle name? | ||
| He's a Vanderbilt. | ||
| I'm just throwing it out. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That means he comes from a very fucking privileged family, dog, you know, and he represents a very leftist stance. | ||
| It's fakery is what I'm saying. | ||
| He's a Vanderbilt. | ||
| All right? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's like saying he's a rock of fucking feller. | ||
| Alright, and if you don't follow me on that... | ||
| Not like Jay-Z, Rockefeller. | ||
| No, Rockefeller, not Rockefella. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Rockefeller, like the fucking evil fuck that just died. | ||
| Oh, he's a bad guy? | ||
| Alright, bad guy. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| 1%. | ||
| He's a one percenter. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Trust that. | ||
| Trust the people you're watching that you trust. | ||
| Fox News, CNN, all this bullshit. | ||
| And hey, I might get a lot... | ||
| I ain't even gonna look at Twitter later, so fuck all y'all. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I don't look at Twitter. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| So if you hate what I'm saying, I don't care. | ||
| I'm gonna say it. | ||
| Anyways, because what I'm saying is for the greater good. | ||
| It's like, I'm not telling you I'm left, I'm right. | ||
| I'm saying there's a place in the middle where we're all fucking people and we all give a fuck about the same shit. | ||
| Like our lives and our children and our eating and our fucking having a roof over our head. | ||
| And there's no reason that the richest fucking planet on earth can't figure these fucking problems out. | ||
| And the only reason there are problems is because they want there to be problems and for you to fucking be fighting with each other. | ||
| You're blue or you're red. | ||
| Choose it, crip or you blood. | ||
| Well, I don't even necessarily know if this is something they've chosen. | ||
| What's up, Joe? | ||
| You cripping or you blooding? | ||
| What you doing? | ||
| You a blood? | ||
| You a crip in this political fucking environment? | ||
| Are you a blue state or you a red state, my man? | ||
| What up? | ||
| That's what they doing. | ||
| That's what they're doing. | ||
| And I know we didn't want to go here and I know I tried to push it off for like hours, but I ain't making it personal about a president or a thing. | ||
| I'm saying there's a system in place that's fucking keeping us locked down and it's fucked up and it's money related. | ||
| And if we took money out of it, we could get more of an honest politician who would actually give a fuck about your kid. | ||
| And whether there's fucking power lines going over your house, or whether you got healthcare, or whether you got this or that. | ||
| Until then, don't expect me to give a fuck about any of y'all. | ||
| That's the drunk me talking. | ||
| When you say any of y'all, what are you talking about? | ||
| Any of y'all that buy into this system and ain't ready to change something and say that something should be different. | ||
| I think everybody thinks something should be different. | ||
| No, they don't, because they're not doing shit about it. | ||
| They're not doing shit about it, Joe. | ||
| And I'm not trying to be angry with you. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| You know I love you like a brother. | ||
| Not even bullshit. | ||
| But all bullshit aside, what do What are you doing about it? | ||
| There is no bullshit in this, so it shouldn't have been put aside. | ||
| What I'm saying is like, until people want to realize that there's an answer, and the answer is pulling corporate and fucking... | ||
| If you can't... | ||
| There should be a limit on what you could donate to a fucking politician. | ||
| It should be like $100. | ||
| Or $1,000. | ||
| Let's make it $1,000. | ||
| I think it should be a Facebook-like. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| There should be some kind of system that says it's not fucking the Koch fucking brothers pumping billions into a dude, whether it's through misdirection or fucking whatever. | ||
| Let's keep it fucking real, man. | ||
| We're getting fucked as a people. | ||
| Hey, I do well. | ||
| I'm doing myself a disservice by even saying shit. | ||
| Do you think they're going to come get you? | ||
| No, but I think they're going to tax me more if I keep preaching the style of life I believe, I will pay more taxes, yes. | ||
| Do you really think that they come get you if you keep talking? | ||
| No, not come get me. | ||
| You're fucking playing me like I'm dumb. | ||
| You're doing the entertainment thing right now. | ||
| I'm being so real right now, Joe, is that I'm saying they will fucking tax me more. | ||
| Yes, if the government and the way of life I think I should pay more, yes, than the fucking person who makes $36,000 a year. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| If my accountant's smart enough, I don't have to. | ||
| That's honesty. | ||
| I can fucking figure out a way not to pay as much taxes. | ||
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Legally. | |
| As long as you follow the code. | ||
| Legally. | ||
| Even legally. | ||
| We're not talking about illegally. | ||
| I'm talking about totally legally. | ||
| I'm talking about what your president is pulling right now that he's never shown you his taxes. | ||
| You can easily skirt a lot of taxes if you have a little bit of information. | ||
| A lot of motherfuckers are dumb enough to buy cars. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| I don't buy cars. | ||
| I'll keep it fucking real with you. | ||
| I don't buy a fucking car. | ||
| I lease a fucking car. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because it's a fucking, basically, almost 100% fucking tax write-off. | ||
| I guarantee you Bill Burr brought his car. | ||
| Bill Burr owns his house. | ||
| Bill, I love you. | ||
| You're one of the funniest guys ever. | ||
| He doesn't play games with debt. | ||
| If you fucking lease cars, you can write off the fucking payments. | ||
| If he was in front of you right now, he'd be like, fuck you, I want to own it. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Own it. | ||
| And then when you want a new, I like new cars. | ||
| So guess what? | ||
| I get a new one every fucking two years. | ||
| Jesus Christ, you're aggressive with this car thing. | ||
| No, but what I'm saying is there's games that are played that you're not even tripping on because they sold you on the opposite angle. | ||
| They got rappers telling you that fucking owning your shit outright is perfect. | ||
| So pay $100,000 for that car, drive it off the lot, get a dent in it. | ||
| It's worth fucking $40,000 now. | ||
| I understand you're very passionate about this. | ||
| But I could see both sides. | ||
| I could see that someone would want to lease something because it'd be a nice tax write-off, especially if you're incorporated, which I'm sure you are, and Bill is, and I am. | ||
| But also, I could see someone who says, I like knowing. | ||
| The guy who's got money has the games down because I have the guys who give me the information. | ||
| There's a lot of guys that would say, I like knowing. | ||
| The average Joe can pull this off. | ||
| No, being incorporated doesn't involve being rich. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the fucking guy leasing his Nissan Sentra doesn't. | ||
| And he could actually incorporate himself and fucking write off his fucking $300 even a month payment. | ||
| Like, there's ways to get... | ||
| Yo, there's fucking games that are being played that people don't fucking know about, is my point. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| This is a deep game. | ||
| It is. | ||
| We're going to games that are being played that people don't know about. | ||
| I love you, and I feel like maybe I'm drunk because you're looking at me like I'm talking stupid shit right now. | ||
| You're definitely drunk. | ||
| We went on a rampage a little bit, but we're back. | ||
| Buzzed. | ||
| Drunk is way first. | ||
| Drunk, I'd be trying to fight you, Joe. | ||
| Well, let's not do that. | ||
| We're friends. | ||
| Warporn Industries. | ||
| When are people going to be able to download this? | ||
| Now! | ||
| Right now. | ||
| Right this second. | ||
| Go. | ||
| Warpornindustries.com. | ||
| Warporn. | ||
| You could probably do this show for another two hours until we both sober up, but I've got to get the fuck out of here. | ||
| So, warpornindustries.com. | ||
| You can get it now. | ||
| Good Dad Gang. | ||
| Good Dad Gang. | ||
| You know about that, right? | ||
| I do. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Can I get in there? | ||
| You're in it. | ||
| I'm about to have it hooked up for you. | ||
| You're going to be a fully licensed G. I just want something I can slip in my wallet when I get pulled over by the cops. | ||
| You're going to be so in, you're going to be able to start your own chapter. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Is it like an AA thing or more like a Scientology thing? | ||
| No, it's Good Dad Gang. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's Good Dad Gang. | ||
| That's what it's called. | ||
| My man Terminology, who's on the Warporn album, a rapper, started it as a movement for, like, you know, inner city kind of shit to get the Good Dad thing going, and it's Good Dad, and he's blowing it up, and it's doing really well. | ||
| And I'm gonna get you a bunch of merch. | ||
| But you can go get it also at gooddadgang.com. | ||
| I make not a goddamn thing off it. | ||
| That's a shout-out to that fucking whole philosophy. | ||
| More shout-outs. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| This is a record number of shout-outs, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I hope you've enjoyed the show as much as I can. | ||
| Am I playing myself or something, Joe? | ||
| Or is this just a good podcast? | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| Okay, because you look happy, and that's two things. | ||
| Either we did a good podcast, or it's like, oh my god, Everlast played himself this whole time. | ||
| There was some chaos in here, but it was a good time. | ||
| Everlast played himself the whole time. | ||
| Just understand that whatever I say and whatever I do is only intended to... | ||
| Express love for humanity. | ||
| I don't give a fuck if you voted for Donald Trump. | ||
| I don't give a fuck if you voted for Hillary Clinton, all that political shit. | ||
| What I was trying to point out with that, and I'll end it on this, is all of us are not involved in the game that's being played. | ||
| We are victims of the game that's being played in a lot of ways, and that doesn't mean we can't change shit. | ||
| It's easily changed, but we're told it's not easy. | ||
| We are in a hurricane of evolution, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Get the fucking money out of politics. | ||
| Technological, cultural, communication. | ||
| If the Koch brothers can't donate to a fucking party, they can't affect a fucking election. | ||
| This is a hailstorm. | ||
| Some of these ideas were good. | ||
| I hope you enjoyed it. | ||
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Some of them were good. | |
| Some of them were buzzed. | ||
| Some of them were fucking fun to listen to and entertaining. | ||
| I hope if you take anything out of it, it's Jocko Willink's video good. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| No. | ||
| I take offense. | ||
| That's a good part. | ||
| It's a good part of this. | ||
| It's a good inspirational thing, but dude, that was already on the internet. | ||
| This was brand new, and I gave you jewels, buddy. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I love you, too. | ||
| I gave you jewels. | ||
| I agree with those. | ||
| Those jewels are powerful. | ||
| One more Warpoint video before we go. | ||
| Let's end it on a Warpoint video. | ||
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No, I gotta leave. | |
| I gotta leave. | ||
| Be real. | ||
| I gotta leave. | ||
| I'm so sorry, but I can't. | ||
| Tell people where to go and get it because it's 447. Walk out on it, Joe. | ||
| Can't do it because I gotta do ads. | ||
| Do the ads walk out. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Honestly, I'm late already. | ||
| Everlast, I love you. | ||
| I love you too, young Jamie. |
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