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April 18, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #948 - Brendan Schaub & Eddie Bravo
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brendan schaub
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eddie bravo
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
Three, two, one.
Brendan Chubb, you gotta say that he's the greatest of all time now.
We're talking about Mighty Mouse.
You gotta say it.
Yeah, we're live.
unidentified
Oh, we're live?
joe rogan
Mighty Mouse is the greatest of all time.
brendan schaub
I agree.
I texted you that too.
I said, you know what?
I finally agree with you, man.
Mighty Mouse, number one in my book now.
joe rogan
I've seen everybody except Fedor live.
I would have to sing Fedor live, like in his prime, to really get a feel.
I feel like Mighty Mouse is better than all of them.
The dude's on so many different levels.
It's like, here's everybody, here's next level shit, and here's Mighty Mouse.
He's so next level.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you come in and you're the best striker on the planet, he's still going to fuck you up.
He'll still fuck you up, Stan, and he'll take you down and submit you anyways.
You come in about...
A world-class wrestler comes in and he's the best wrestler in the world.
Mighty Mouse is still going to fuck him up.
brendan schaub
And take him down.
eddie bravo
Best Jiu Jitsu guy?
A guy who's just amazing at Jiu Jitsu.
Mighty Mouse is still going to fuck you up.
Mighty Mouse tapped Wilson Hayes.
brendan schaub
Did you hear Wilson Hayes after?
He went, I'd rather get knocked out.
That was so demoralizing.
eddie bravo
I mean, Mighty Miles, his striking's insane.
His takedowns are insane.
His jiu-jitsu's insane.
His confidence is insane.
His work ethic is insane.
His cardio.
brendan schaub
The best, the best, the best of all time.
Have you seen the ratings?
Lowest of all time on Fox.
eddie bravo
He needs to go up.
How dare you?
I tuned in!
I fucking love the guy!
unidentified
You just pulled out your fat hog and pissed right in my cornflakes.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
brendan schaub
How crazy is that, though?
eddie bravo
We need to see him go up in weight.
I think that's the answer.
I know it's obvious Dana doesn't want that.
It's obvious.
brendan schaub
We can't, yeah.
eddie bravo
But, damn.
Can you imagine him against TJ Dillashaw?
joe rogan
It is really hard.
eddie bravo
Can you imagine?
joe rogan
It's really hard to sell an opponent against him other than someone going up.
Or Cody going down.
Cody's talked about going down.
brendan schaub
He said he's down.
joe rogan
He says he can make it.
eddie bravo
Well, it's not that uncommon that someone just rules a weight class so much that he goes up in weight.
They do it in boxing.
Or down.
brendan schaub
Up or down.
Yeah, in boxing.
eddie bravo
Generally, you step up.
Let's see if I can take a bigger dude.
You know what I mean?
Connor's on that level.
He's like, fuck up the 45ers, but I'm going to come up to 55 for the challenge.
BJ did it.
joe rogan
What do you think of this rumor?
I haven't even texted Dana about this.
This UFC 213 rumor.
Have you heard this?
They're talking about McGregor and Tyron Woodley.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I saw that.
joe rogan
Is that 100% bullshit?
What do you think?
I think it's bullshit.
brendan schaub
From what I hear, it's bullshit.
joe rogan
I'm supposed to be utilizing my connection to the UFC. I heard it's bullshit.
brendan schaub
I'm pretty sure I saw Ariel.
eddie bravo
You should have a rumor section, a rumor part of the show.
brendan schaub
Rumors are fun, though.
unidentified
Can you imagine rumors from Joe Rogan?
brendan schaub
Dude, just a whole rumor show?
eddie bravo
Dude, you'd have the best rumor show of all time.
joe rogan
I had some deep rumors.
brendan schaub
I'm pretty sure Ariel shut that down, but Cyborg, I'm pretty sure Cyborg's fighting at UFC 213 in Anaheim.
She tweeted that out recently.
joe rogan
There was something recently where she tweeted out that if UFC doesn't get her a fight, let her go.
brendan schaub
It doesn't work like that.
Like, I love when fighters do that, but it's like, hey, if you don't fight me soon, I'm fucking out of here.
You ain't going nowhere, bitch.
Like, you contracture, you have to.
But to defend the UFC here, which is, you know, they offered her fights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, two, and she wasn't ready.
So they're like, dude, we tried.
All right, we'll figure something out, but geez, and now you want to take off?
Like, give us a second here.
joe rogan
And in her defense, apparently, I mean, the only way that, like, USADA would grant her, there it goes, July 29th, I'm making my first.
Oh my goodness!
eddie bravo
The NBA is Sunday, July 30th.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
And this is, you could do both.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
God damn, dude.
brendan schaub
And there's a Big Brown Breakdown Live in Long Beach that Friday, son!
unidentified
It continues!
eddie bravo
We're doing an all-girl.
brendan schaub
Rejoice, everybody!
eddie bravo
All-girl EBI, July 30th.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
The UFC requested it.
The UFC asked us, can you do an all-girl EBI? And I said, damn, I thought you'd never ask.
Hell yeah!
brendan schaub
Cyborg could probably jump in that bitch.
She's not going to get touched.
She can come in there and just smash all your girls all at once.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd have to get someone big.
brendan schaub
Nah, just have all of them jump on her.
King Kong with the little planes.
joe rogan
Did you see the new King Kong movie?
brendan schaub
No, it looks dope, though.
joe rogan
It's dope for a while.
You let the 12-year-old boy in your brain out.
It's fun.
brendan schaub
But for that long, it's really stupid.
I'd be down to see it, though.
joe rogan
But what's his face?
John C. Reilly's in that movie?
He's hilarious.
brendan schaub
The guy from Step Brothers?
joe rogan
Yes!
And he's that guy.
brendan schaub
And Wreck-It Ralph?
Really?
joe rogan
He's that guy in the movie.
He's comic relief.
eddie bravo
Does he play for your health?
joe rogan
He plays a dude that crash-landed there.
eddie bravo
But does he play the guy from For Your Health?
You ever watch that on Tim and Eric?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Dude, John C. Reilly is humongous.
He's so huge, but he loved doing the Tim and Eric show.
brendan schaub
You're saying size-wise is huge?
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
As a star.
As a star.
And then Tim and Eric is a crazy, bizarre, obscure comedy show.
It's fucking nuts.
It's like Key and Peele on Acid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There it is.
I've seen this.
eddie bravo
So he does this show.
Big-ass actor does this show, and he plays a character.
He's like a news host.
Oh, I have seen this.
unidentified
Dr. Steve Brule.
eddie bravo
Dr. Steve Brule, of course.
I can't believe I couldn't think of it.
Dr. Steve Brule.
brendan schaub
Look at him.
eddie bravo
Dude, he's the funniest guy.
brendan schaub
How hilarious is he?
joe rogan
He probably does it for free.
eddie bravo
Yes, he don't give a shit.
brendan schaub
He's also wrecked.
eddie bravo
He's always on the show, son.
joe rogan
He's one of the funniest guys of all time.
That fucking scene where him and Will Ferrell, not in Step Brothers, but in Talladega Nights, when they're discussing Shake and Bake.
I mean, come on, dude.
brendan schaub
No, what about when he takes over and he's his girl and paints his face over his?
What the fuck are you doing?
He's like, I moved in, man.
He's like, you want to hang out?
eddie bravo
He's like, no, we're not hanging out.
How about he calls him up and asks him how to use his stereo?
unidentified
He goes, why the fuck would you want to watch TV while listening to the radio?
He goes, because I like to party.
brendan schaub
That movie's classic.
joe rogan
That guy's got the best timing of all time.
Him and Will Ferrell together, you could just have them...
All you need is just get a couple of funny guys to write some loose format for them and just let them go wild.
unidentified
That story.
joe rogan
They might be the two funniest...
eddie bravo
Pairs, ever.
brendan schaub
Dude, he played so serious in that movie Gangs of New York.
Remember him in Gangs of New York?
unidentified
That's right.
brendan schaub
He was a serious dude.
Nasty dude.
He's like the cop.
eddie bravo
That must be so much fun for him.
joe rogan
He scared the shit out of me in that movie.
eddie bravo
He scared the shit out of me.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
I felt like he was really the butcher.
brendan schaub
They said he was an asshole on set, too.
unidentified
I bet.
joe rogan
He was in character, man.
He's one of those, I'm in character, guys.
brendan schaub
It's too deep for me.
That's right.
joe rogan
He played a bad motherfucker in that movie.
That movie, Gangs of New York, is scary.
brendan schaub
It's underrated.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so good!
But it's scary, because you imagine what life was like if you were born into that environment.
Whether or not that exactly happened, I'm sure there's some sort of a dramatic flair that they added to the reality of that, but...
Whatever the fuck it was, there have been places on earth that have existed where people hacked each other up with axes and swords like that.
Just when you watch that and you realize, Jesus, that was only like, you know, a few hundred years ago.
Not that far.
Not that far in the past.
eddie bravo
Indians and shit, I mean, they would, you know, retaliate, you know, because white men came and tried to take their lands.
So the Indians were like, fuck you.
brendan schaub
We're going to, we spot a wagon.
eddie bravo
We're going to fuck you up.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
So it was just back and forth.
You had to worry about not just fucking bears and shit, but you got to worry about Indians, Dan.
If the Indians spot you and they want to fuck you, you're done, son.
joe rogan
Dude, there's a lot of cannibalism going on, too, that people don't know about.
eddie bravo
They probably love eating white people back then.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially the Nez Perce.
I just saw Steve Rinella told me about all this shit when I was hanging with him in the woods when Callan and I went hunting with him.
brendan schaub
Yikes.
eddie bravo
Are there any stories?
joe rogan
The Nez Perce is terrifying.
eddie bravo
Are there any stories?
There must be stories of slaves that escaped and went and hid out with Indians.
You know what I mean?
Put on the feathers and stuff like that.
Put the paint on.
joe rogan
I don't think the Indians would let you in, man.
eddie bravo
No, they would understand.
No, they would understand.
Are you kidding?
brendan schaub
No.
eddie bravo
No, the Indians would be like, they understand.
Indians aren't evil.
They understand that those are slaves.
These guys are running for their lives.
There had to be some.
There had to be some.
brendan schaub
They didn't get to the tent.
joe rogan
Listen.
There was all sorts of stories about mountain men meeting Indians and falling in love.
brendan schaub
Fall in love?
joe rogan
I've seen movies.
I've seen movies.
brendan schaub
Do you think that really happened?
eddie bravo
You think Indians...
Well, you know what?
It would have to be a white guy helping the Indians out and being on the Indian side, understanding that their hands are being taken.
joe rogan
I got three words for you.
Dances with wolves.
unidentified
There you go.
eddie bravo
You think that really happened?
brendan schaub
Kevin Costner.
eddie bravo
100%.
joe rogan
Dude, I watched it.
I watched it take place.
brendan schaub
I've seen it, man.
joe rogan
It resonated in my mind.
It seemed realer than anything I watched on the news.
brendan schaub
Dude, we fucked them up so bad.
We fucked them up so bad.
Just our diseases.
We get, like, the flu.
And you take out the entire village.
joe rogan
That kills 90% of the Native Americans.
brendan schaub
We're like, what's up, guys?
Dead.
Can you imagine dudes are like, dude, we're escaping.
eddie bravo
We're going to go find some Indians and live with them and fuck all the Indian women.
Dude, can you imagine?
Or could you imagine?
brendan schaub
You can't touch the women.
eddie bravo
Come on!
unidentified
Even crazier.
joe rogan
Even crazier.
eddie bravo
Could you imagine coming over here?
They show up with big ass dicks?
They show up with these gigantic dicks?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're not coming in my fucking tent with that dick.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
eddie bravo
There must have been problems.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
For sure problems.
joe rogan
I just don't think that if anybody came from, like, those Native Americans that were here back in that day, like, you know, they were competing with each other, you know?
I mean, there was a lot going on there.
eddie bravo
White people like to say that.
They go, dude, they were fighting each other.
joe rogan
Oh, they definitely were.
unidentified
They definitely were.
eddie bravo
So the white people feel better.
joe rogan
That is true though, right?
brendan schaub
Dude, they were killing each other!
eddie bravo
We were just helping them!
joe rogan
Imagine if you were there and you had a cold and you just watched everybody die.
You gave them a cold.
You came over on a boat, you got sick, and everybody died.
90% of the people died.
brendan schaub
They didn't know, though.
joe rogan
But how crazy is that?
Our bodies adapt to bugs and diseases so well.
eddie bravo
Maybe they just slaughtered them all and said, dude, let's just say they died.
Guess what?
We got some bad news.
The Navajo Indians are wiped out.
unidentified
They had disease and someone sneezed on them.
brendan schaub
They're allergic to cheese.
unidentified
They're gone now.
eddie bravo
It's basically who knows what part of history is real or not.
unidentified
Hey, is there any Indians in the UFC? Has there ever been an Indian?
eddie bravo
Can you imagine a Jim Thorpe in the UFC? Some dude from a reservation comes in and fucks everybody up.
It'd be like Indian versus white guy in the main event.
brendan schaub
Like some Tonka shit from Street Fighter?
eddie bravo
You never know.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
eddie bravo
There's got to be some badass Indians out there.
joe rogan
I'm talking like full-blooded or definitely some badass Indians.
You remember that one Native American that Bas Rutten fought?
Remember that dude?
He was in King of the Cage.
He fought a lot of different fights.
He was like a real good mid-level guy.
Big Native American guy.
eddie bravo
I don't remember.
joe rogan
Find out Bas Rutten's last MMA fight.
brendan schaub
He fought an Indian in his last fight?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
eddie bravo
Or was it a white guy but claiming one 16th Indian?
joe rogan
I'm trying to...
brendan schaub
And he has the card?
joe rogan
I think the guy was Native American, I'm pretty sure.
I don't think you're supposed to say Indian anymore.
unidentified
Ruben Villarreal?
joe rogan
That's right, Ruben Hurricane Villarreal.
That's the last guy he fought.
That sounds Mexican.
brendan schaub
Ruben doesn't sound very Indian.
joe rogan
Find out what nationality.
Oh, Warpath, yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, god damn, he looks Indian.
joe rogan
He does, for sure.
Big dude.
unidentified
6'4", 247. Damn, he has a salty record.
Shit!
joe rogan
22 wins, 28 losses.
brendan schaub
This ain't for you!
joe rogan
My man's in there banging them.
eddie bravo
A lot of black people say they're part Indian, right?
joe rogan
Get that check.
eddie bravo
Right?
joe rogan
You'll have to be 116th to get that check.
brendan schaub
You gotta prove that shit.
joe rogan
Do we got an MMA Wikipedia there?
Well, either way.
brendan schaub
Either way, he's Indian as fuck.
joe rogan
At least in my book he is.
He's a part.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's full Apache according to my book.
joe rogan
That's one thing that I do know.
I don't know a whole lot about Native Americans, but I know that the Sioux people, they actually call themselves Lakota.
And the other Indians would call them the Sioux because it means enemy.
So there was like all sorts of crazy infighting.
brendan schaub
Look at that!
joe rogan
Ogla-Lakota fight gets first UFC win.
Okay.
And that dude looks super Native American.
brendan schaub
The guy on the right or left?
joe rogan
Left.
brendan schaub
The guy looks white as shit.
joe rogan
The guy on the left?
unidentified
Yeah, he looks like a wrestler from Indiana, right?
brendan schaub
He looks like a straight white boy.
joe rogan
He looks like a crazy Apache to me.
brendan schaub
He looks like Ben Askren's mom slept with an Indian.
Alright, he looks straight out of fucking...
joe rogan
I've seen this dude fight.
He's a tough dude.
brendan schaub
Yeah, really tough.
joe rogan
He does look straight up Native American.
unidentified
He looks Native as fuck in those pictures up there.
brendan schaub
Alright, you got that.
eddie bravo
He got a little white in him though.
brendan schaub
His name's David.
joe rogan
Well, you know what they look like?
They look like people from Siberia.
That's the origination of the Native American.
They trace the genome back.
They did this thing for when the Mormons are trying to prove that Jesus came from Native Americans.
brendan schaub
Silly Mormons.
joe rogan
The Mormons are trying to prove that the lost tribe of Israel was the Native Americans because it's in one of their books.
eddie bravo
That's a good one right there.
Turns out that the Indians, but you know, in history, we paint them out to be savages.
joe rogan
Well, we're so lucky that there's fucking people that study this shit so that we know that we could sit here in a room and just talk shit and Google how the fuck did people get here from Asia?
brendan schaub
Thank God.
joe rogan
They walked across the Bering Strait.
We know that.
It's like a fact.
And then once they did the genome on the Native American, they went, yep, these people are from Siberia.
So those people from Siberia, if you ever look up there, they're fucking strong features.
brendan schaub
Super strong.
Just stout people.
joe rogan
It's tough, too.
Like Ruslan Provodnikov.
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Is he still fighting?
He was like pissing black tar.
He was like, you know what?
I think I'm good.
joe rogan
He's one of Speed of Sport guys.
He's a Freddie guy.
brendan schaub
Is he still working with him?
joe rogan
He's a Freddie guy and he's a Nick Curzon guy.
Nick Curzon worked with him.
You know what, man?
He's been in some wars.
That's what's up.
brendan schaub
Straight up wars.
joe rogan
The way that guy fights, you can't do that for very long.
You know, there's guys like Floyd Mayweather that can go an entire career and get rocked like maybe three, four times, like where he got tagged a little.
And then you got guys like Provodnikoff that just butt heads with everybody.
They try to break everybody.
brendan schaub
He had back-to-back fights with Alagiri and then with Homeboy, the Blackfeller, the Beast, the Desert Storm.
joe rogan
Yeah, Tim Bradley.
brendan schaub
Tim Bradley.
joe rogan
Tim Bradley and him had chaos wars.
brendan schaub
You know Tim Bradley, after that fight, had a stutter for six months.
His wife was like, please stop fighting.
He was sick for like months.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
I'm not surprised.
brendan schaub
It was the fight of the year, too.
joe rogan
Bradley got fucked.
It was a chaos fight.
It was chaos.
Those fights, man, I'm so torn because while I'm watching it, I'm enjoying the shit out of it.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
But part of me is going, fuck, I know what these guys are doing to themselves right here.
It's almost like you have an extra bump of information that's too much.
But it still makes an Arturo Gotti-Mickey Ward fight even more glorious.
brendan schaub
That's why when they walk in a room, you're just like, Jesus Christ, there they are, man.
Like, I'll never forget with Jon Jones when he fought Gustafsson and I fought Mitrione.
You know, he had a war.
And my coach, Tony Jeffries, has never been to UFC. It's the first UFC he's ever been to.
And Jon Jones won, and he's coming by on a stretcher because he was so beat up, man.
His lips were out to here, both eyes clogged, and he's shaking.
That was when he went straight to the hospital and he was shaking.
Jesus Christ.
And he walked by and I just grabbed him.
And I didn't know what to say.
I went, dude, I'm so proud of you, champ.
And he just put a thumbs up.
I probably couldn't even see him.
He had like stewy eyes.
Like you can't see shit.
And my coach goes, holy fuck.
That's the winner.
That guy won.
joe rogan
See, something about Jon Jones, I think.
I got a theory.
I got an older brother theory.
And I feel like dudes who have badass older brothers can fucking take it.
Like, Weidman?
Weidman had an older brother, and him and the older brother apparently, according to some of his interviews, they, you know, his older brother beat him up and shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
Makes you tough.
joe rogan
Like, Matt Hughes, two twins.
Imagine looking at yourself every day, just trying to beat up yourself.
brendan schaub
Scrapping.
Just a dead even every fucking time.
eddie bravo
Just a war.
joe rogan
Jim Miller, his brother Dan Miller.
eddie bravo
My brother used to beat me up, but I never, not beat me up, but just like sock my shoulder.
Like if I would fart, he would sock me full.
I'd have to sit there and I would take it.
I would never fight back.
brendan schaub
No, but like in boxing, there's the Smith family, Liam Smith, Aldo Smith, there's four brothers.
Three are world champions.
joe rogan
Cole Miller and Micah Miller.
brendan schaub
They're all just...
Yeah.
joe rogan
Savages.
brendan schaub
Monsters, man.
joe rogan
There's a ton of people like that.
unidentified
Lozon brothers.
joe rogan
Yup, the Lozon brothers.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
That's a good one.
Noguera brothers.
Shit.
Twins there, right, too?
brendan schaub
There's a bunch, man.
joe rogan
Dude, so many.
Shogun and Ninja.
brendan schaub
Oh, here's something that fucking rock your world or not rock your world.
But if Jon Jones wasn't such a fuck-up, for lack of better terms, we're not even having this conversation that Mighty Mouse is the best ever.
He'd be just going based off his regular schedule now.
He'd be 13, 14-time world champ if no one beat him.
And he'd probably be fighting that heavyweight and having that belt, too.
Going down his best ever.
joe rogan
Well, he's still got a chance.
I mean, Jon Jones is only 30 years old, which is crazy because that means he's really about to jump into his prime.
I'd say like an athlete's prime for combat sports, I feel like it's somewhere around 30 to 32. For heavyweight.
brendan schaub
See, I don't think everyone.
I think the lighter weight classes, it's earlier.
joe rogan
But look at the welterweights.
The champs are always around that age.
Except for GSP, I think he won the title when he was in his late 20s.
brendan schaub
Yeah, late 20s.
joe rogan
When is Tyron Woodley's, what, 33?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair.
I mean, he had wrestling background.
eddie bravo
What's the latest with Jon Jones?
joe rogan
How old's Robbie?
Jon Jones, his suspension comes up in July.
brendan schaub
Did you hear what Dana White said today?
I texted you.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're going to fight.
It was Brett Okamoto, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Brett Okamoto interviewed Dana White from ESPN. He said that DC will fight Jon Jones, but if Jon Jones isn't ready by, I think it's the July card.
joe rogan
Yeah, July 29th.
brendan schaub
Yeah, if he's not ready by then, then he's going to fight Jimmy Manoa, and then they'll fight down the road.
joe rogan
Crazy.
brendan schaub
So no warm-up for Jon Jones.
If he does want one, then...
joe rogan
What do you think about that?
Do you think that's smart for Jon?
Or do you think Jon should take a warm-up?
brendan schaub
He should take a warm-up.
The UFC should give him a warm-up.
Because, Joe, when has it ever worked when a guy takes this much time off and you just throw him right to the top of the heap?
unidentified
Think of Ronda.
joe rogan
When has it ever worked?
brendan schaub
Think of Chael Sonnen.
Like, there's a lot of guys.
And people go, well, Dominic Cruz.
Dominic Cruz didn't fight Cody Garbrandt and TJ Dillashaw after all that time.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
He fought a...
Mizusaki, who's a tough guy.
joe rogan
Mitsugaki, and then he went right into TJ. But still a warm-up.
But TJ was a big gap.
I know, but at least he didn't fight TJ. That first fight back, he ain't beating TJ. Right, but you know that he got injured after the Mitsugaki fight, and it was another year plus before he fought again.
brendan schaub
True, and he might be the outlier here, but I'm just saying...
joe rogan
He's an outlier.
brendan schaub
He's an outlier, but...
joe rogan
But he's not as good...
In the first fight, if you look at him in the TJ fight, and then you look at him in the second fight when he fought Uriah Faber, he's way better in the Uriah Faber fight.
He's more lean, he's fitter, and he dealt with a lot of the problems that he has.
He has serious plantar fasciitis, man.
brendan schaub
Have you ever had that?
It's a fucking nightmare.
I've had to deal with it.
joe rogan
And you look at his style.
What is that?
It's like the fascia in the bottom of your feet tears.
brendan schaub
You can't even get out of bed to warm up.
It's a fucking nightmare.
It's impossible to get rid of it.
joe rogan
And Dominick Cruz is all footwork.
And what happened is, after he tore his ACL, he took a long time off, and his feet just weren't strong enough to keep up with his training.
Because his training is so foot movement dominant.
brendan schaub
But back to the point, should John get a warm-up, in the grand scheme of things, I understand we want these big paydays, and you want the big ratings, so you toss them.
DC John Jones is a huge raider.
But if something happens, like Ronda Rousey lost, what happens if we gave Ronda a warm-up so you get paid on that?
It's a huge draw.
And then she fights.
It's a huge draw.
But when you just toss them right to the very top, it's a one-and-done, man.
It doesn't make sense to me.
joe rogan
They were worried, I guess, with the sale.
You buy something for like $4 billion.
You want to maximize your profits.
It's just the issue comes up with purists, which I think all of us are purists.
When you look at it like...
At the end of the day, I want to see the number one contender fight the champ.
brendan schaub
I ride the fence.
I get the business side from what they want to do, and then I get from a pure fighter standpoint.
joe rogan
I was just about to say, but I'm a hypocrite because I was happy when Dan Henderson got that shot against Michael Bisping.
I'm like, that's what we want to see.
brendan schaub
Or GSB. It makes no sense he's fighting Bisping.
joe rogan
Well, the problem with the GSP-Bismink fight is it ties up the division.
And when you have a guy like Robert Whittaker who just ices Jacare, holy shit!
brendan schaub
That's the best adjective to use there.
unidentified
Goddamn, that kid's good.
joe rogan
He's a killer.
Whittaker's a killer.
Straight killer.
brendan schaub
Who beats him in the top three?
I like his chance against anyone now.
joe rogan
Yoel Romero's such a freak.
God, such a freak.
I agree.
brendan schaub
I like Whitaker on that, son.
joe rogan
Maybe.
You're 100% right that it's a hell of a fight.
brendan schaub
I mean, Yoel Romero and Jacare, I don't even think Yoel beat Jacare, really.
You could really give some of that fight to Jacare.
Like, Romero's a split decision.
joe rogan
He had that one moment where he spun and hit Jacare with that spinning back fist and put him on queer boulevard Whitaker made Jacare look like a fucking amateur Just fucking hawk them down.
brendan schaub
He even had his back like get the fuck out of here.
Oh, jiu-jitsu very cool See ya.
joe rogan
I feel like Whitaker is better now than ever and I think he's only 25 or 26 26, right?
26. He's no older than that.
He's a young buck, and he's coming up strong.
And he's another one that went from 170 to 185 and improved tremendously.
As soon as he stopped cutting that radical amount of weight, all of a sudden, dude's got vitality and power.
The Brunson fight was serious.
That was a big wake-up call to people, because Brunson was putting it on him.
brendan schaub
Well, Brunton rushed at him, chin first, and I was like, oh my god, how's this gonna work out?
And he covered up his smart compose, and then just, yakush!
Those Australian fucking shovels, man.
I'm a fan now, and I thought he was gonna lose that fight, and I went, oh, that's my guy.
When I'm down, I'm down, man.
joe rogan
Did you see all the Crocodile Dundee memes?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
There was a ton of them.
brendan schaub
I can't wait, man.
joe rogan
I mean, come on, man.
A dude from Australia fights a dude who calls himself the alligator?
Shit.
brendan schaub
That's a great fucking point.
I didn't even think of that.
joe rogan
It's the fucking crocodile done decent.
brendan schaub
Now this is a knife.
joe rogan
Now that's a knife.
brendan schaub
That's a knife.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
brendan schaub
Whitaker's the new hotness, and that division needs some hotness.
Like the new blood, I love when there's new blood, because like, fuck, yeah.
That's what we need.
Now we need that heavyweight and light heavyweight.
Light heavyweight, we're like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I guess, you know what?
DC, John, can you guys just fight each other every other weekend?
joe rogan
Well, what did you think about Rumble retirement?
Here's what happened, right?
They read off the submission.
DC raises his hand.
I'm going in to interview DC. And Rumble and DC are hugging.
And then DC puts his hand on Rumble's shoulders.
He goes, you go first.
You go first.
brendan schaub
That was a bad idea, I think.
joe rogan
No, I don't think it was a bad idea, man.
I think it was classy.
This is what I think about DC. At the end of the day, Daniel Cormier is a really good man.
brendan schaub
Great guy.
joe rogan
He's a really good man.
brendan schaub
He gets so much hate, doesn't he?
joe rogan
I don't get it, man.
I mean, he's competitive, and before the fight, he's saying, you know, it's too bad that Anthony Johnson's in my weight class because he'll never be champion.
He's saying all the shit that you're going to say, but at the end of the day, it's true.
He's on another level when it comes to his ability to compete.
brendan schaub
Another level.
He's on another level.
Just to critique the fight there, DC looked in the worst shape we've seen him.
I thought if Anthony Johnson can beat him, this is going to be the time.
I didn't know going into it, Anthony Johnson didn't want to fight or be in there.
If you're even talking about retiring, you're fucked with a guy like DC who's going to grind you out.
It's just not going to work.
joe rogan
Rumble Johnson was about four inches from a head kick knockout.
He caught him with the foot in the face.
brendan schaub
He caught and broke his nose.
joe rogan
If he caught him with his shin, if he, you know, when you see where that kick landed, you feel like, God damn, Daniel Cormier can fucking take it.
He can fucking take it.
Because he took that shot right on the chin, he went back to his corner, his nose was clearly jacked.
We're looking at it in between rounds like, that looks really broken.
Went out there like it didn't bother him at all.
brendan schaub
See, I think that was a good tune-up fight for DC, too.
Not that Anthony Johnson's a tune-up, but his game plan was crazy.
He obviously didn't execute the game plan.
So I think that was good for DC, because I think if that DC fights John, he's in trouble.
joe rogan
I wonder what would have happened if Rumble connected.
My question is, look at this.
Smack!
He catches him right with the foot.
brendan schaub
It's almost better he bent down.
unidentified
So he didn't get the chin.
joe rogan
His nose absorbs it.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, that small nose, too.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
What a combination.
unidentified
But we've never really seen DC with a gut like that.
joe rogan
Well, look, it obviously wasn't affecting him.
Who knows if he's injured?
He probably was.
He's always injured.
brendan schaub
He's always doing some shit.
joe rogan
He's got a problem with his knee, and he's had it worked on.
I know he's got stem cells in it.
Shit's going to happen.
eddie bravo
It's 38. It looks like that kick fully connected, right?
He just took it.
He was just like...
brendan schaub
He went down into it, which I think he didn't get full momentum, like you said, with the shin, where he was in a lot of trouble.
eddie bravo
Dude, he...
joe rogan
It looked a lot harder than I thought it was.
It was certainly the foot.
And the thing about feet is you can knock someone the fuck out with a foot, no doubt about it, but a foot gives a little bit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I was just gonna say it gives.
joe rogan
It gives a little bit.
But the shin, man.
It's game over, son.
You know, the first time I ever realized how much of a benefit that was, I worked out with Maurice Smith.
And Maurice Smith was showing me, like, when Maurice Smith faces a heavy bag, it's really interesting.
Like, if he throws a roundhouse kick, the bag goes straight.
Like, he hits it.
Like, he's hitting straight on.
He's, like, stepping to the side and hitting straight on.
It's almost like he's hitting it with a front kick in terms of how the bag moves away from him.
And in the taekwondo and karate days, everybody went round with these round kicks, and it was more like a slap.
It didn't have the same kind of penetration.
And when you see, like, a Maurice Smith or a Pedro Hizzo...
Eddie, do you remember when you and I went to...
We went to Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu way back in the day?
Way back in the day, you were a purple belt.
We went to Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu and we watched Marco Huas kick the bag.
Oh, no, no, no.
Pedro Hizzo.
It was Pedro Hizzo was kicking the bag.
Marco Huas was too.
But Pedro Hizzo, I never saw anybody in my life who had leg kicks that were as scary as Pedro Hizzo.
I remember he kicked Rico Rodriguez once when they fought.
And the thud, the SWAK! And you looked at it and you went, oh, you can't take those.
There's no way.
No one's taking those.
You can only take so many of those.
brendan schaub
Even Randy Couture was like, yeah, but he was on the show.
He goes, look at my leg.
That's from fucking...
joe rogan
It's fucked up forever.
brendan schaub
It's like a huge dent.
Like someone took a bat.
joe rogan
He did the same thing to Randleman.
He would leave dents in you, dude.
Do you remember us watching him kick the bag?
Do you remember that?
eddie bravo
I think it was someone else.
brendan schaub
I don't think it was me.
joe rogan
We went to Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu.
You weren't there?
eddie bravo
No, I've never been to Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu.
I've been there once, but it wasn't with you.
brendan schaub
Well, it was that time.
joe rogan
Powerful, faulty memory.
eddie bravo
I don't want to say nothing.
brendan schaub
I'm just going to let it go.
joe rogan
It was you and me, man.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what was weird, too, with that fire.
He goes, I'll move on to something else, and then his Twitter background changes to the Los Angeles Rams.
He put hashtag LA Rams.
So all my friends are texting me, and now I judge them for it.
They're like, oh, bro, he's playing for the Rams?
I'm like, you fucking moron.
No, he's not playing for the Rams.
No, he's not fucking suiting up for the Rams.
I don't know if he's being a special teams coach or some shit like that, but he is not touching the field catching footballs.
I'll tell you that right now.
joe rogan
No, he's got some sort of executive job, correct?
Is that what I've been hearing?
So that's the Rams helmet, that's all he had?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Okay, does it say anything there?
What does it say?
Just L.A. Rams?
brendan schaub
Hashtag Rumble Squad, hashtag Rams.
joe rogan
Huh.
brendan schaub
The only way he's sewn up is if he's the mascot.
If he's a new L.A. Ram mascot, that shit would be dope.
I think he's got some sort of a job.
I would have retired the UFC for that.
joe rogan
I'm not playing for the Rams.
brendan schaub
No, you knuckleheads!
I'm not playing for the Rams!
Are you crazy?
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
brendan schaub
I love it, man.
Good for him, because it's, you know, this comes from a guy who retired early, or maybe won too late, but for him to be able to do that, the balls it takes, especially, you're talking about, he's tip of the spear.
Number two, could beat anyone not named DC or Jon Jones.
He can beat everybody else, and he did.
For him, like, I'm good, man.
I'm out.
It takes a lot of courage and balls, man, so I congratulate him on And I love that he just goes out and says it.
joe rogan
I don't want to get hit in the head anymore.
I don't want to wrestle with dudes anymore.
brendan schaub
He's always been that way, though.
And I think people are shocked by that when they hear, you know, NFL guy where they don't say it when they're playing, but you find out later, he's like, dude, I fucking hated playing.
It was the only thing I was good at, and I was making tons of money.
With Anthony Johnson, he's always stayed like, yeah, I don't really like to train, man.
I like to get out of shit.
You know, it's not my thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I just happen to have this fucking God-given power.
I'm really good at it.
I'm fighting that light heavyweight now.
Getting fame and money.
Oh, another opportunity.
Fucking see ya.
There's nothing wrong with that, man.
joe rogan
There's definitely nothing wrong with it.
brendan schaub
But people are surprised when they hear Professor Houthi going, yeah, I don't really enjoy it, man.
I'm just really good at it.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
I'll never forget.
Well, I appreciate his honesty.
Because I think it's when a guy talks about it that way.
It's important for everybody.
I remember when Matt Hughes got beaten by B.J. Penn and B.J. took the title from him.
And I asked him about it in the interview, and he said, honestly, I have to tell you, it's a relief.
Like, the pressure of being a champion is, you know, everybody coming after you.
It's honestly a relief.
Like, balls that that guy has to say that in front of all these people.
That it means being completely honest.
brendan schaub
It's cool, man.
Especially as an athlete, especially for Anthony Johnson, a guy who he identifies as being just a fighter.
He's Rumble.
For him to go, I'm good, man.
Number two in the world.
See ya.
God dang.
It's inspiring.
It should be inspiring to people.
joe rogan
It is.
I think it's inspiring.
And it's also inspiring if he decides to take a year off and then he goes, fuck this desk job.
I want to kick somebody in the face.
I just needed a break.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I just needed a fucking break, man.
joe rogan
I mean, that's entirely possible, too.
brendan schaub
I'm just waiting for someone else to get the belt because I can't beat DC, you fools.
joe rogan
I mean, isn't that an issue, right?
eddie bravo
Oh, you run out of money and you're like, you know what?
I need some money.
I better fight.
brendan schaub
Well, he was smart with his money.
We're on the street.
joe rogan
That's good.
brendan schaub
His manager was smart with the money.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
brendan schaub
But even that guy, like, people don't, you know, Anthony Johnson, number two in the world, has God-given power in his hands.
You gotta realize, as a UFC fighter, tip of the spear, and it's just where the sport's at, he's not set.
It's not like, oh, I see ya fucking yachts in Miami and I can do whatever I want.
He's not set.
He never had a seven-figure payday that we know of, you know?
joe rogan
You don't think he did for one of those title fights?
What do you think he got paid for those title fights?
brendan schaub
Which title fight?
joe rogan
Are you talking about with DC? The first one with DC and the second one with DC. Maybe.
I don't know what he got paid.
I'm not even speculating.
brendan schaub
On the books, he didn't get seven figures.
eddie bravo
How many legends in boxing retired and then later came back because they needed money?
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
brendan schaub
Oh, bro.
It's crazy.
eddie bravo
Remember making millions?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Back in the 80s making millions.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
But I think they come back for more than that.
Like, Sugar Ray came back.
He was still rich.
brendan schaub
Yes.
eddie bravo
They don't all come back for the money.
brendan schaub
Bernard Hopkins is set.
Roy Jones might have some issues, but he's with HBO. Bernard Hopkins with HBO. They do it for the love of the game.
Most of those guys are set.
Like, Bernard is fucking set.
You know, Bernard still drives an 89 Civic because he doesn't want to go broke.
joe rogan
Bernard has a Bentley.
brendan schaub
Does he have a Bentley now?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a whole story about him driving a Bentley and had some kid drive the Bentley for him and the kid dent the wheels.
brendan schaub
Oh, God damn it.
joe rogan
Fucked his wheel up.
brendan schaub
Well, forever.
eddie bravo
Where'd you hear this story?
brendan schaub
Where'd you hear the Civic?
No, no.
No, I swear to God.
eddie bravo
Where'd you hear that?
brendan schaub
When he was world champion of Civic forever.
eddie bravo
Can you Google that?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you can find that.
Forever, because he's worried about going broke.
joe rogan
That is the opposite of a Civic.
unidentified
I don't know.
Are you sure?
eddie bravo
Now, where did you get your story from, Joe?
joe rogan
Who are you telling?
eddie bravo
Where did you get your story about the Rolls Royce?
joe rogan
It was a story about him that he was helping out this kid that was terminally ill.
eddie bravo
How did his Rolls get brought up?
joe rogan
Well, it was the car.
He let the kid drive the car.
And the kid curbed one of the wheels.
eddie bravo
Sounds like fake news.
unidentified
Where'd you get that?
eddie bravo
It could be fake news.
joe rogan
I got it from the library.
brendan schaub
Dude, I let Callan's friend drive my Bentley.
joe rogan
And he fucked it up?
brendan schaub
I didn't know he doesn't drive.
He just drives a bike in New York.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
And he goes, we're doing this bit, and we're filming it.
And this cop goes, hey man, I'm going to tow this car if you don't leave.
And I go, oh fuck, we're in the middle of it.
And he goes, dude, I'll fucking move it right there.
I'll move it to another spot.
And I go, I don't let anyone drive my car.
Very rarely even valley.
And I go...
Alright, I trust the guy.
Goddamn near 60. I toss him the keys.
He comes back and all good.
He goes, all good, brother.
Cool.
I walk out there to the right, parked down the street, and this guy comes out in front of the house.
He goes, dude, I don't know who the fuck was driving that car, but he hit the shit out of the curb.
You know, those Bentley wheels are tough to come by.
I look at it and I just like...
Ugh!
Motherfucker!
I got it fixed, but it was a nightmare.
joe rogan
Did you bring it up to him?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Wow, interesting.
You swallowed it to bring it out on a podcast.
unidentified
Well, no.
brendan schaub
I'm not going to call his name out.
You know, it's been taken care of.
I just, you know, if I was younger, I'd have flipped out.
But I was like, I sat in my car and went...
It's just a car.
It's alright.
He didn't mean to, man.
Life is good.
unidentified
That's good.
joe rogan
Good for you.
eddie bravo
Wait, did you say you have a Bentley?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did.
I have a Bentley.
eddie bravo
Nice.
unidentified
You got a Bentley Continental GT. Supersport.
brendan schaub
That thing is supersport.
joe rogan
Dope-tastic.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
It's a dope car.
You've never seen it?
brendan schaub
Podcast life.
unidentified
It's preposterous.
eddie bravo
I thought you had, like, before you had, wait, like a beam?
No.
brendan schaub
At a Porsche.
eddie bravo
A Porsche.
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's gone.
eddie bravo
Red 911. You still have it?
joe rogan
No.
And you had a M6 before that.
brendan schaub
I had an M6 before that, yeah.
joe rogan
Those M6s are smooth.
eddie bravo
Damn, we don't fuck around.
joe rogan
M6 is a good size.
brendan schaub
It is, man.
joe rogan
It's part cruiser, but it's still sporty.
brendan schaub
It's still Gran Turismo style.
It's comfortable.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's comfortable.
brendan schaub
The Bentley's cool.
The best car I've ever had, and I'll always be loyal to them, is Porsche.
joe rogan
That was the best car you ever had, that little car?
brendan schaub
I love Porsches, man.
I just love the quality, the customer service.
It's different.
Bentley, I had to get my fucking rims fixed.
I took them in.
I mean, they could give two fucks.
You know what they gave me as a rental?
Mom Volvo.
And I was like, what the fuck is this?
joe rogan
Understated.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and they were like, well...
joe rogan
You just gotta play a character for a few days.
eddie bravo
I had a Bentley for a month.
A friend of mine, a student of mine, had a lot of money.
He had a Bentley.
He goes, you want to borrow it for a month?
joe rogan
Tell the whole story, like, why he couldn't drive it.
It's kind of hilarious.
eddie bravo
Why he couldn't drive it.
joe rogan
Why he couldn't drive it.
Do you remember?
eddie bravo
No, he went away.
joe rogan
Yeah, but do you remember why he didn't want to drive it anymore?
Because he owned a weed shop, and the cops did not like when people were flaunting that they were making a lot of money at weed shops.
eddie bravo
Man, I forgot.
unidentified
You're right.
eddie bravo
You're right.
joe rogan
So he got a Dodge Charger, because the cops like it when you would drive the car that they drive.
He had a whole psychological approach to this.
He's like, I'm going to get a Dodge Charger and put some cool wheels on it, because these dudes...
He's a fucking smart guy, man.
brendan schaub
Kind of.
Or crazy.
joe rogan
No, he was right!
Because he's like, you know, these guys don't want you driving something they can never afford.
But if you're driving what they're driving, guys like cars.
It's like, oh, he's gonna know his charger.
unidentified
Kind of.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm telling you, you're not a cop.
If you were a cop and you had a, this is it, you had a fucking Dodge Charger, it makes sense.
unidentified
No, it doesn't.
brendan schaub
Cops are so cool to me, I get pulled over all the time.
joe rogan
You're Big Brown.
They're Fighter and the Kid fans.
No, for real, man.
I think he was right.
When he said it to me, I was like, that totally makes sense.
He goes, yeah.
He goes, they like it.
He goes, a friend of mine's a cop.
He's like, they told you they like it.
Your best chances of them treating you like one of them.
Drive what they drive.
Drive a fucking Charger.
unidentified
You're such a fucking baby.
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
You're so spoiled.
If you're like, I would drive a Charger.
I'll tell you right now.
brendan schaub
An SRT Charger?
joe rogan
I would drive a Hellcat.
unidentified
Hell yes.
joe rogan
Those fucking Hellcat Chargers.
brendan schaub
It's a ridiculous car.
Dude, I'd drive that Demon Challenger.
joe rogan
You know, that's like $135,000, that thing.
brendan schaub
I want it so bad.
I want it so bad.
It makes my dick hard.
joe rogan
Dodge has come out with the most preposterous car in all of mankind.
brendan schaub
It hurts my heart when I see it.
joe rogan
It's 850 horsepower.
It goes 0-60 in 2.3 seconds.
It's called the Dodge Demon.
They took a Dodge Challenger, put this ridiculous hood scoop on it, put fender flares on it, widened all the wheels, and dumped the most insane engine that anybody's ever put in a production car.
brendan schaub
It's so goddamn American, it's not even funny.
joe rogan
It's an eagle...
brendan schaub
Suck on that, Isis.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's an eagle getting his dick sucked while he's holding a flag.
brendan schaub
You know a hot dog.
joe rogan
With a gun and the other wing.
brendan schaub
And a New York Yankees hat.
joe rogan
With a Statue of Liberty saluting them.
eddie bravo
How much do they go for?
joe rogan
Look at that!
808 horsepower!
717 pound-feet of torque!
That is fucking insane!
brendan schaub
There's only a thousand of them.
You can't fucking get one.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't get one.
brendan schaub
No, they're going to be collector's items.
joe rogan
Look at this giant fucking...
Hold on, back that up again with the size tires in the rear.
Back it up just a little bit there.
A little bit further.
There it goes.
Okay, so they got 40s in the rear.
Eh, that's pretty wide.
eddie bravo
What does production car mean?
Does that mean at least 100?
Is that what they're saying?
brendan schaub
Production?
eddie bravo
They keep calling it a production car.
brendan schaub
The fastest production car.
It means it's not like, you know, super, like there's not like 10 of them.
joe rogan
Why do they put little tiny wheels in the front?
That's not the original, that's not the wheels that are coming with the car, right?
I think that's the wheels that are trying to make them do wheelies.
I think they put those little tiny wheels in the front because they're trying to make the car do wheelies, but I'm assuming, because it does pull a wheelie.
It's the first production car ever.
unidentified
I don't want that.
eddie bravo
It's like a drag store.
brendan schaub
I don't need that.
I don't need a wheelie in my life.
joe rogan
But I think one of the ways they get it to do a wheelie is they put little skinny tires on it.
It comes with one seat.
It only comes with one seat.
This is an insane car.
This is a car that says fuck you.
jamie vernon
It just said you get the second seat for a dollar.
joe rogan
Oh, that's it?
But if it comes with one, that's kind of dope.
brendan schaub
I want my friends to jump in it.
It's just the biggest fuck you car ever.
Hey, you drive!
I only got one seat, bro.
eddie bravo
One seat?
brendan schaub
That way you have a good excuse not to bring the wife.
joe rogan
Oh, it says it costs less than $100,000.
brendan schaub
That's what they say.
So, hey, it's only going to be $88,000, but the dealers do the markup to the demand.
So you're fucked.
joe rogan
Oh, the markup's probably going to be 100%.
brendan schaub
I'd go get one right now if I could and just fucking cruise the street shitting on people.
joe rogan
You know what's hilarious?
They're talking about the Ford Mustang GT350, the Shelby GT350. I saw that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the Cobra.
joe rogan
It's a dope car.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're talking about it, keeping it around to 2018. And I looked at the numbers, like the 0-60 numbers, and they're really great.
It's like 4.1 with the stick, 3.9 with the automatic.
And they have a 10-speed automatic.
I'm like, what a badass car.
But then you compare it to that.
You're like, this is...
brendan schaub
Oh, that thing just...
What do you drive?
joe rogan
Boom!
eddie bravo
Who makes shitty cars?
unidentified
This is a little baby car.
joe rogan
You can't really make shitty cars anymore.
brendan schaub
You can't get away with it anymore.
joe rogan
Look, they're making new cars constantly.
That's one of the craziest things about cars.
They need consistent innovation.
Every year, their 0-60 time gets better, their G-force gets better, their mile-per-gallon gets better, their featureless gets better.
brendan schaub
It's been 30 since I was 12. Okay, but a Porsche Twin Turbo gets 30. One of the fastest cars on the planet, all-wheel drive S. But all cars are up 30. Not really, not really.
unidentified
If you don't drive it like fucking Billy Bata, I think.
brendan schaub
That's a supercar that gets 24 miles per gallon.
I know, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Pull up 991 911 turbo miles per gallon.
eddie bravo
By now, cars should be 200 miles to the gallon by now.
It's still the same bullshit.
joe rogan
Uh-oh, I smell conspiracy theory coming out.
Oh, no!
Did you start setting this up?
brendan schaub
Miles per gallon?
joe rogan
It's like if you see him getting ready to go for the twister roll, he might give you a little tell.
brendan schaub
You see the setup.
eddie bravo
You know I'm crazy.
You know I'm crazy.
brendan schaub
You know that shit.
He almost went with it with the Indians.
You guys believe that?
joe rogan
Oh, you believe that shit?
unidentified
And then I went, uh, was there ever an Indian in the U.S.? The Indians would have led in the slaves.
joe rogan
The Indians would have led in the slaves.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
eddie bravo
Hey, that's a Key and Peele movie right there.
joe rogan
Black Indians.
unidentified
There's a book about it.
eddie bravo
Hell yeah!
I'm telling you!
There must have been some...
unidentified
Can you imagine running big dicks in the teepees?
What was that?
Yeah, they fucked up letting big dicks in the teepee.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll be different.
It'll be different now, folks.
But I wonder how many.
I wonder how common that was.
And I wonder whether it was white people or whether it was white Europeans or slaves who bred with Indians more.
unidentified
And were they racist?
eddie bravo
Dude, I'm telling you, they escaped to the Indians.
joe rogan
What is it, 22?
eddie bravo
Where else are they going to go?
brendan schaub
27 highway, 20 city.
joe rogan
For a supercar?
Oh, it's amazing.
No, don't get me wrong.
Look, that car might be the best car in the world.
If you think about the best all-around car.
brendan schaub
Hands down.
joe rogan
911 Turbo, you drive that thing, it drives like a regular car.
It feels great.
It's smooth over bumps and shit.
It's the dampening system that they have.
It's all electronically controlled.
It seems to be able to predict what the ground is like.
It adjusts to different bumps in the road really well.
brendan schaub
The best.
Hey, that was 2015. I'm talking about 2018s.
They're even better.
That was 2015, son.
joe rogan
So you think it got better from then?
unidentified
It got better.
joe rogan
Probably a few miles per gallon, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
But those cars are 0-60 in 2.5 seconds.
brendan schaub
It's the best car on the road.
joe rogan
Four-wheel drive.
brendan schaub
Pound for pound, money for...
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's the best.
joe rogan
They just...
Look, man.
There's something about Japanese engineering and German engineering that is hard to fuck with.
brendan schaub
I don't fucks with the Japanese.
joe rogan
They never break.
brendan schaub
Hashtag no racist.
joe rogan
They never break.
I buy Japanese cars all the time.
Lexus?
Yeah, I love Lexus.
Because it's like, you know, when you get in that fucking thing, every time you press that button, it's starting up.
brendan schaub
It's gonna start.
joe rogan
Every time.
Every time.
brendan schaub
You bought a fancy Toyota.
eddie bravo
I got a Tundra, watch your mouth.
joe rogan
It's a Toyota in drag.
brendan schaub
Nothing wrong with Toyota, I'm just saying.
Compared to German, though?
joe rogan
No, no, not just chill in that bag.
eddie bravo
Tundra, baby.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
brendan schaub
The interior on German cars?
joe rogan
The best.
Yeah.
Well, their engineering is so sporty, too.
Like, the Japanese don't really make a car like a 911 GT3. They don't really make that.
They make these track cars that work really fast on a track, like the Nissan GT-R. But that's, like, super electronic.
When you get in that thing...
brendan schaub
It's like a spaceship.
joe rogan
Dude, that thing is incredible.
That thing, like, levels you out.
Like, when you're going to take turns, you actually feel it flatten the body out with electronics.
It turns like this.
You can make a hard turn and there's no body lean.
It's weird.
brendan schaub
What else?
unidentified
And then the Acura NSX. The new one's insane.
joe rogan
That new NSX is insane.
Two hybrid engines in the front wheels.
First try.
Weapons grade 911. What does it say there?
What's the...
2029. Wow, yeah.
brendan schaub
Porsche 911. It's my fave.
joe rogan
It's a beast car.
Those are super reliable, too, for the most part.
brendan schaub
So reliable.
joe rogan
But it's just the engineering has to get better and better every year, so they're sharpening this razor's edge.
They're developing these cars that, like, there's skid pad numbers that used to be ridiculous, like 1G on a skid pad.
Like, God, it would have to be like a Ferrari F40 or something like that, you know?
Now you get that shit out of a BMW M3. Like, everything does a G on the skid pad.
And those Corvettes, like Grand Sport Corvettes, they do ridiculous...
You ever see the Viper ACR? Fuck.
You can just buy a fucking 660 horsepower race car from Viper.
brendan schaub
I'd be lying if I didn't say I was online last night looking at them to buy one all cash.
joe rogan
I've done it three nights a week for a month.
Three nights a week for a month.
brendan schaub
It's tough not to pull the trigger.
joe rogan
I've watched every fucking Viper video they have.
It's the most retarded American car ever.
It literally buttfucks the Demon.
Because it's so ridiculous.
The Demon still looks like a Challenger.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
This thing's insane.
Pull up the Viper ACR. 2017 Viper ACR. You pull up in this thing and people next to you are like, you know what?
brendan schaub
Fuck you, man.
How about that?
joe rogan
They're like, fuck you.
brendan schaub
What are you doing?
joe rogan
What are you doing?
brendan schaub
Is this Fast and Furious?
joe rogan
Look at the wing on that fucking thing.
That is an insane car.
And it's breaking records at every single racetrack all over the world.
brendan schaub
Have you heard it too?
It sounds like a goddamn American car.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
See, that one right there is a regular Viper, which is still pretty dope.
But just look for the Viper SRT ACR. The SRT ACR is the crazy one.
That's the one that they just built for racing.
brendan schaub
There's a markup on it too.
unidentified
And you can just buy it.
Oh, fucking for sure.
joe rogan
Actually, I heard they were having a hard time selling them.
brendan schaub
Well, it makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, because people are like, enough.
Trump's president, end this.
brendan schaub
Well, you remember when the Vipers first came out?
It's 500 horsepower, 500 pounds of torque, and there's so many crashes, because guys just don't know how to deal with it.
They go around the corners and just fucking tailspin up.
joe rogan
Also, they didn't have anti-lock brakes.
The old Vipers had nothing.
I rented an old Viper once, beat the fuck out of it.
brendan schaub
I want to buy one just to fuck around LA. Didn't the Viper save Dodge?
eddie bravo
Like for a while, Dodge was in shambles.
brendan schaub
They were considered like vanilla ice of cars, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
See, there it is with the Extreme Aero package.
brendan schaub
That's such a good looking car.
joe rogan
That Extreme Aero package, they literally have a giant race car wing in the back of it, but it's so ferocious looking.
brendan schaub
You need that though, I feel like.
joe rogan
Look at you, you're so excited.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
This is a car that girls will get mad at you if you buy.
unidentified
Like, your wife will be like, Brendan, what the fuck?
eddie bravo
That's like buying, like, getting bigger tits.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You'd be like, what are you trying to do?
brendan schaub
Look at that fucking thing!
Look at that.
joe rogan
Stop right there in red.
I usually don't like a red car.
Back that bitch up.
I love the way that thing looks.
Red.
That's a badass fucking car.
brendan schaub
That thing is so hard.
joe rogan
That is about as American as it gets.
I mean, it's so much more badass looking than a Corvette.
brendan schaub
Oh, way more.
joe rogan
And a Corvette's pretty badass looking.
brendan schaub
Corvettes don't do it for me.
CR1 does, but I don't fuck with them.
joe rogan
You know, at the end of the day, man, it's like we're still little boys.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
When you said you look at them three times a week, literally last night I was like, God, should I just buy one?
It doesn't make any sense.
joe rogan
It makes no sense.
Look at that thing.
It's a beast.
It's such a beast.
It must be so fun.
brendan schaub
See?
Fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, at the end of the day, it's fun.
It's just a different kind of experience.
brendan schaub
I think it's about three miles, negative three miles a gallon, though.
joe rogan
Well, they're really big, too.
Here's the other thing about them.
They're wide.
They're wide, and they have this really long hood.
It's not like...
brendan schaub
That giant engine.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not like you're...
When you're driving a Porsche, one of the weird things about it is it's rear engine, so your front end, you get a really good, clear view of the road.
Like, you remember that NSX that I had, Eddie?
That silver NSX? Yeah, you had one?
Yeah, dude, I'd love that thing.
To this day, I reminisce about that car.
brendan schaub
Should've hung on to it.
joe rogan
Again, vroom.
Started every time.
Not a fucking problem ever.
brendan schaub
Vroom.
Have you had problems?
Like, I haven't had a lot of problems.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've had a Porsche that shit out on me a bunch of times.
unidentified
No, what year?
joe rogan
911 Turbo 2002. It did a lot of problems.
The turbos.
eddie bravo
996 for a long time.
unidentified
996. Joe's been ballin' for a long time.
eddie bravo
That's a decade of ballin' hard.
brendan schaub
You have a Supra 2 in 93 or what the fuck?
joe rogan
I did.
No, you didn't!
No, I had a Toyota Supra Turbo in 1994. Really?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Are you fucking with me?
joe rogan
No, I'm not fucking with you.
unidentified
Damn, you've been killin' it for a grip, son!
I just fucking walked in the door.
joe rogan
I had a Dodge Caravan minivan.
brendan schaub
You had an M6, and I spent every goddamn dime I had to get punched in the face on that thing, and it was used.
joe rogan
Very different approach.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's hood rich for a while there.
joe rogan
That's what I had.
brendan schaub
That's one of the greatest cards of all time.
joe rogan
I had a silver one.
brendan schaub
They're worth a lot of money now, too.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Well, they're something special, man.
brendan schaub
Why don't they redo those?
Hey, Toyota, jump on it.
joe rogan
I know, right?
Come up with a new one.
I think they are.
I think they are, as a matter of fact.
But it's just, you know, there's something nostalgic that Porsche's figured out how to capture, where they have a look that it looks like a 911. Every time these guys do it, they have to start from scratch.
brendan schaub
It's like a new fucking car.
Yeah.
Because remember back then it was the Toyota Supra, the RX-7.
Those were like the ones.
The RX-7.
And then there was the Mitsubishi GT3000. I like that one.
eddie bravo
Look at that shit.
joe rogan
Go back to that black one.
That's the same car.
This is the new one.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
joe rogan
I take back what I said.
This one's doper.
If they actually come out with this, does this say...
brendan schaub
This says FT1 Digital.
Get that shit out of my...
joe rogan
Is that a real image?
Or is that a computer created image?
brendan schaub
That's computer shit.
joe rogan
Is it?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
It's hard to tell.
They're so good at it now.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, damn.
Oh, it looks like it's real.
unidentified
Concept.
joe rogan
But is that a concept?
Oh, it's all bullshit.
You can change the colors of it and everything.
brendan schaub
Oh, weak sauce.
joe rogan
Colors are gross.
Just give people like two colors.
brendan schaub
How about the fans in the front?
eddie bravo
The paint and the color makes no difference.
joe rogan
Well, it does with some cars.
Some cars just look goofy certain colors.
Like, if you ever see a yellow Ferrari, you're like, relax, buddy.
brendan schaub
Just scream and I have a small dick.
If you have a yellow Ferrari, I'm like, alright, dude, I get it.
You're single, you do spray tans.
joe rogan
A black Ferrari, you might have a crib in downtown LA where you have incense burning before people even walk in.
brendan schaub
Dicking people down.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're dicking people down in like one of those warehouse apartments.
unidentified
You know those types with like velour curtains?
joe rogan
Velour curtains and you have a little wine fridge.
brendan schaub
You know your shit.
joe rogan
Dress well.
brendan schaub
Probably a good dude.
joe rogan
Like one of them movies where like the dude is like a secret scientist and he lives in a loft and he's got like his couch in the middle of the loft with like a carpet there but everything else is that polished cement.
brendan schaub
Doesn't have a TV, doesn't have time to watch TV. TV's for pussies.
Only wine.
joe rogan
I'm out here reading books and doing kung fu.
brendan schaub
And fucking.
unidentified
And fucking.
joe rogan
And everything that comes in that door.
brendan schaub
But you get a yellow and a green one?
No, sir.
You're up in the Hollywood Hills.
You probably got herpes.
You're some asshole.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
You can't have a fucking yellow Ferrari.
They won't even let you in downtown with a yellow Ferrari.
unidentified
Fuck no.
joe rogan
Bro, you gotta be more noir.
You gotta be darker and more mysterious.
Yeah, it's weird, man.
brendan schaub
It's weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's certain things about certain color cars.
But then there's, like, classics.
Like, if a guy has, like, a 1971 red Porsche.
brendan schaub
Oh.
joe rogan
Beautiful car.
brendan schaub
Love it, man.
joe rogan
It's a classic color.
If it's in red, it's a classic color.
But, like, a brand new red car, like, it's gotta be like that Viper.
It has to be undeniable.
brendan schaub
It has to be certain cars.
And, you know, even Porsche, because when I bought my Porsche's red, he goes, you know, they don't make a lot of these because a lot of people don't want red.
They don't want the attention.
Your insurance is higher.
The cops look for you.
Like, it's classic.
They're like, people are going away from it.
joe rogan
It is weird.
Red is like a...
Go fuck you.
Look.
eddie bravo
What about those Magnum PI Red Ferraris?
Are they classics now?
Are people bringing those back?
brendan schaub
Those are dope.
joe rogan
340 GT. 340 GT. Is that it?
eddie bravo
350. Are they bringing those back?
They're classics now, right?
joe rogan
They should be.
brendan schaub
They're worth a lot of money.
unidentified
Are they?
brendan schaub
I wanted to buy a Testarossa.
eddie bravo
DeLoreans?
Are they back?
They must be back.
joe rogan
DeLoreans are back.
brendan schaub
Mr. Steal Yo Girl.
eddie bravo
That's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Damn, no socks.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Slinging dick with an old school cop mustache.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
God damn, has those boat shoes on, just that fat dick in the front, dude.
joe rogan
Powerful Magnum PI doesn't even care if his feet stink.
He's got a sling dick.
Sling dick with stinky shoes.
eddie bravo
I would drive that right now.
unidentified
Is he gay?
eddie bravo
He's not gay?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
How dare you?
He's super conservative.
He's super conservative.
I didn't know.
He's the guy that got on Rosie O'Donnell's show, and she famously sort of attacked him for supporting the MRA and connecting him to shootings.
brendan schaub
He's one of the greatest Americans of all time.
joe rogan
I understand what she was trying to do, and I understand her sentiment.
I met Rosie O'Donnell when I did her show, and I think she's a nice person.
brendan schaub
She's funny.
joe rogan
I just think that things like that are ill-advised, and that people got real mad at her, man.
Oh, those fucking NRA people.
Dude, if you talk anti-Second Amendment, they come with the force.
unidentified
Enjoy that.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Come after you good, you know Yeah, well if they didn't they would have lost the right a long time ago There's a lot of people that would like to take those right to my boy Tom Selleck went on there looking like a dime piece timeout guns Tom Selleck didn't go on there to talk about guns He went on there to talk about something else just promoting something and she wanted to bring up the NRA and you know he was upset about it But I think if you're talking about gun violence like There's a lot of factors when it comes to gun violence, and you can get really crazy, but one of them is that it's all men.
How about that?
How about we just ban all men?
Because all men are responsible for mass shootings.
It's fucking all men.
It's never chicks.
So what do we do?
We ban all men?
Because without the men, the guns don't even work.
It's okay, we're not banning all men.
So should we ban all guns?
Yeah, we should definitely ban all guns.
Okay, well if we're gonna ban all guns, how come only a certain percentage of the guns get used in these crimes?
What about all those other people that are lawful, law-abiding Americans, who are kind and peaceful, and keep guns for personal security or for hunting?
Do we take them away from them?
And who gets to decide?
That's where the problem lay.
The problem doesn't lay in the idea that she's stepping in because she's got This thing in front of her and she sees it's a problem.
She wants to talk about the problem.
The problem is that the problem is multifaceted and it's not just all men.
The number of these men that are medicated on pharmaceutical drugs is fucking staggering.
And then they say correlation does not equal causation.
So you can't assume that just because someone's on pills that that makes people shoot people.
But damn, it's close.
brendan schaub
It's a tough road, man.
joe rogan
There's something in there.
There's something going on there.
Your psychoactive drugs are responsible for some changes in your behavior.
That's a fact that's undeniable.
How much is debatable?
And how much of these disassociative sort of drugs allow people to just like blank out and go and do wacky shit?
Different people with different brain chemistry?
Who the fuck knows?
brendan schaub
Did you see the Facebook killer?
He actually committed suicide today, but he was going around killing people and doing it live on Facebook.
And they were saying people were upset at Facebook, going, what the fuck?
May he allow him to do this?
And like, yeah, we're going to change some of the rules.
joe rogan
Apparently Facebook said that he didn't do that.
It wasn't streaming.
brendan schaub
He uploaded it later.
And so they're like, well, you know, we'll watch that more.
But then I saw a cop was like, it actually helps us.
Like, if he didn't commit suicide, like, there's times where there's been other crimes that people do and they air it live or upload it to Facebook or they rob a bank and post, like, hoodrich with cash and it actually helps the cops track them down.
So, like, I don't know if you should go away with it because they're gonna kill regardless.
Now they're just, you know, they can upload it on YouTube or wherever and they might take it down, but they're like, we shouldn't stop it because it's actually helping them a little bit.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's a good excuse to go in there and control the internet.
I mean, who knows?
It sounds like that could easily be a false flag.
Is there any...
joe rogan
Well, it's not a false flag.
There's definitely a dead guy, and there's definitely a guy who killed himself.
I think more often than there being false flags is an event happens, and people try to take advantage of that event.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
And they try to make it easier on themselves, especially law enforcement might try to make it easier on themselves and enforce laws, especially politicians might take it as an opportunity to push their agenda that their constituents want.
There's a lot of factors when it comes into dealing with any kind of gun violence, but it's a multifaceted issue and you don't take it up with Tom Selleck.
Okay.
Magnum fucking PI is not the reason why they're school shooters.
Just because he has a lawful gun permit and because he joined the NRA, because he believes in the right to keep and bear arms, the real problem is people that are willing to kill a bunch of other people.
It's not the guns.
It's not that they're men.
It's not neither one of those two incredibly common factors, guns and men.
brendan schaub
I always think it's weird, too, whenever there's a shooter with this Facebook fucking killer in Ohio, everyone's like, oh, mental illness.
God, I don't know if you can just chalk it up to mental illness all the time.
joe rogan
Mental illness, it's medicated, too, by the way.
brendan schaub
Sometimes, and then sometimes he's just a fucker.
There's a lot of bad apples, too, man.
He's just a bad dude.
Like, when he was on there, and why I watched, I also went down a weird rabbit hole on Easter.
But when he was on there just talking, you know, coherently, being like, you know, I've worked at this job forever.
People always shit on me.
My girl just broke up with me.
I'm fucking sick of this, man.
I'm gonna go around killing people because I'm pissed off at the world.
Fuck this.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, the problem is someone who has that attitude lacks empathy, and it's not normal.
So the question is, like, how does someone get to that stage where they're completely void of empathy?
That's what scares the fuck out of people.
What doesn't scare the fuck out of people is that people are willing to kill, defend their loved ones, or any of that shit.
What bothers people is people that don't have any empathy.
People that want to go fuck the world, or fuck you, and fuck everything, and then just hurt people and laugh.
brendan schaub
But would he be that way if he didn't get whatever his co-workers were picking on him?
joe rogan
Who knows?
brendan schaub
Is it a mental illness because he was getting picked on?
Or is it his backlash to that bullying?
Or his girl breaking up with him because he was a small dick and he was fat?
joe rogan
There's a lot of factors there that could be a part of the overall problem.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
He might just be a bad apple, man, and just was like, fuck this.
This world sucks, man.
joe rogan
It's possible.
brendan schaub
I think we just...
My whole thing here is I just think we chalk up mental illness too easily.
joe rogan
Well, I think what you're talking about, though, is mental illness.
I mean, what I'm saying is that anybody that's willing to kill people like that is mentally ill.
And you could say, like, how to define it?
Is it herpes?
unidentified
Yeah, it's tough.
joe rogan
You know, is it the flu?
But I think the lack of empathy is in itself a disconnect from the human race and can make you mentally ill.
You could classify someone as mentally ill.
The problem is, anybody could be mentally ill if you get born into the wrong situation, you get abused, you grow up fucked up, your brain is all hardwired, you're stressed out all the time, the people around you are all fucking crazy, and your cortisol levels are off the charts.
We all have the potential to lose our fucking mind.
All of us do.
brendan schaub
Or, you know, you grew up desensitized where you see the struggles of life.
It's like life doesn't mean shit.
You see your friends shot and stuff like that.
You're like, ah, this sucks, man.
unidentified
Who cares?
joe rogan
And I think it's super important that we have empathy for people like that.
That we understand that that could have easily been us.
You know, people get born into terrible, terrible situations.
Eddie Bravo, what are you eating over there, bro?
What you got, bro?
Oh, that's one of them peanut butter bars.
Those are delish.
Those are good, man.
eddie bravo
They're called...
RX bars, three egg whites, 14 peanuts, two dates, no BS. That's all that's in there.
joe rogan
Those are legit.
Those are good.
brendan schaub
Is it better than that one?
eddie bravo
RX bar.
joe rogan
I like the peanut butter myself, but I like that dark chocolate one you ate too.
You couldn't handle it?
brendan schaub
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
Too much for you?
Too much flavor?
brendan schaub
It's a little too much.
joe rogan
I like it.
I like fucked up flavors though.
I'm convinced that what one person tastes, I don't taste.
I'm just fucking convinced.
brendan schaub
Well, I like real bitter stuff.
Like, my coffee, I like it, like, super strong.
Like, Kalen tried, he's like, dude, this tastes like cigarette ashes.
I'm like, yeah, I like it super...
Like, I like real bitter, like, coffee.
joe rogan
I like a strong coffee, too.
I like a good, a dark roast.
brendan schaub
Yeah, son.
unidentified
Mmm.
Mmm.
brendan schaub
That light roast, get the fuck out of my...
unidentified
You mean iced tea?
joe rogan
Yeah, I get super bummed out when someone pours me, and I see the coffee going in, and I can see through it.
unidentified
I can tell right away.
brendan schaub
Me too.
I'm like, well, this place sucks.
joe rogan
Bitch-ass diner coffee.
brendan schaub
Get that freak-ass lemonade out of my fucking face.
Get that tea out of my goddamn coffee shop.
joe rogan
Exactly!
Sometimes it looks like tea.
brendan schaub
I can tell on the- I'm like, alright, I need to get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
You know what I got when I'm one of those, you know those Nespresso things?
You have those little capsules.
brendan schaub
I'm a purist, man.
I don't fuck with Nespresso.
joe rogan
I like them.
You know why?
Because you can make espresso like that.
You can make espresso like that.
Like, you're out there fucking with a spoon and tap, tap, tap on the top.
Fucking with a spoon!
You make an espresso with a...
brendan schaub
Nespresso's for someone who drives a Tesla.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I like it.
unidentified
It's the most bitter.
brendan schaub
I like a French press, like a goddamn gangster.
unidentified
I like that, too.
brendan schaub
It's dark as fuck.
I pour it a little almond milk.
joe rogan
I take three espressos from a Nespresso.
brendan schaub
I don't fuck with Nespresso.
unidentified
Three of those.
brendan schaub
They're bad for the environment, too.
joe rogan
It's great for my stomach.
unidentified
I enjoy it.
joe rogan
Why is it bad for the environment?
brendan schaub
The guy who created those Keurig things in the Nespresso, they can't recycle them, so there's nothing to do with them.
He's like, I fucked up, I wish I could stop it, but he gave the formula to someone who ran with it off the Nespresso.
joe rogan
They should make it biodegradable, right?
brendan schaub
They should, and they didn't, and now it's fucking people up.
joe rogan
Do you know that they could do that easily with almost everything that we make with hemp?
brendan schaub
But they just refuse to because they want the cotton business?
joe rogan
Right now, they don't have a full hole.
Eddie just grabbed that microphone.
He's like, we're about to spit knowledge.
eddie bravo
Okay, you guys got the cars.
You guys got the cars.
I just saw this.
brendan schaub
I saw Eddie go.
eddie bravo
Did someone say hemp?
brendan schaub
Did someone say cotton business?
joe rogan
Someone said conspiracy and hemp in one sentence.
eddie bravo
You know what?
I was sitting here thinking, damn, this podcast has so much power.
You're going to bring back cars.
You're getting me into cars like shit.
joe rogan
What do you mean bring back cars?
Cars never went anywhere, man.
brendan schaub
They're fucking here, man.
eddie bravo
Make it cool for younger people.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, younger people love cars.
Everybody loves cars.
eddie bravo
Everybody?
brendan schaub
If you raise them, right?
unidentified
Okay.
eddie bravo
I thought only rich people liked cars.
joe rogan
That is one thing.
That is true.
Because I did ignore cars when I was broke.
I was like, that is out of question.
brendan schaub
You wouldn't see a car?
Really?
joe rogan
I'm like, god damn, that'd be cool to drive.
No, I just cut that part of my head.
And then once I started making some money, I was like, oh, loosen up the reins.
brendan schaub
Let's see here, man.
joe rogan
Time to go back to what I enjoy.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I was a kid, I had a bunch of muscle cars.
I had a gang of different kind of muscle cars.
That's all I drove.
eddie bravo
I mean, broke people that know everything about sports cars and the latest shit?
Damn.
That wasn't you, right?
joe rogan
When I was a kid, I knew a lot about muscle cars.
I didn't know a lot about Porsches or Ferraris.
Those all seemed way out of range.
But I know a lot about 69 Mustangs, 1970 Barracudas, that kind of shit.
brendan schaub
I did know about muscle cars.
eddie bravo
I didn't know about Porsches because my stepdad was the best Porsche mechanic in Newport Beach.
My stepdad was the shit as a mechanic.
He worked in Newport Beach.
I knew about Porsches through him.
I knew what a 911 was when I was 8 years old, 928, 944. I was kind of hip to it just because of him.
There was this one guy at the strip club that used to show up.
Because you know there was that 924?
Those were the cheap ones.
He would switch it.
unidentified
He put a 928 on his head.
eddie bravo
And he would drive to the strip club and tell girls he had a 928. And get the girls?
Oh, wait a minute.
He said he had a 944. But you know the 924s are the low-level ones.
924s were the low-level ones.
Right in the 944 was like, you know, rich guy's portion.
brendan schaub
You pull up in a 959, you get dudes suck your dick, guys, girls, gals.
eddie bravo
959, I missed that one.
joe rogan
I didn't know that was a 959. There was a dude that I used to work with on news radio who was a cameraman who got a 924 and would race it.
And he said it was one of the best cars for racing because it was really well balanced.
It didn't have a lot of power.
But he knew a lot about racing cars.
brendan schaub
He must have.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's like, they don't have a lot of power.
But the thing is, around racetracks, it's more about handling than it is about power.
Until you get to those crazy high-end 911 turbo four-wheel drive motherfuckers.
That kind of shit.
Those things are just ridiculous.
You know the new 911 Turbo, the wheels turn?
The back wheels turn.
So when you're going around a corner, yeah, the back wheels, they turn and make the corner shorter.
And they turn the opposite way in parking lots to make it so you can pull in the spots easier.
brendan schaub
The best.
joe rogan
Yeah, like your turning radius is off the charts.
It's ridiculous.
There's the engineering, man.
eddie bravo
You guys gonna get into helicopters and shit?
joe rogan
Nah, man.
That's too risky.
Bill Burr drives a helicopter.
eddie bravo
Think about that shit.
brendan schaub
I don't have helicopter money.
joe rogan
You've had Bill Burr on?
Bill Burr flies helicopters.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's right, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He gets places, like he goes from, he's got a helicopter pad in his house.
joe rogan
He did a gig in San Diego, and he flew a helicopter out of LA and flew it down to San Diego with his instructor.
brendan schaub
Is it a Magnum PI helicopter, like the little bubble one, or are we talking about like fucking Marine One shit?
joe rogan
I don't think you can get a Marine One for rental.
brendan schaub
Bill Burr might.
joe rogan
Well, he makes good money, but he's not stupid.
brendan schaub
Is he the number one comedian in the world right now?
joe rogan
No, Kevin Hart is.
brendan schaub
I'm saying as far as funny, guys.
joe rogan
He's probably up there.
It's him or Chappelle or Louis C.K. That's probably the battle, but Bill's right up there.
brendan schaub
Dude, I watched you and I watched him back to back at the Comedy Store and I was just like...
It's so inspiring, but his shit, I was laughing so hard, man.
So fucking hard.
joe rogan
Some of his new shit, I want to say the premise, but it's so good.
brendan schaub
Dude, I was laughing.
The premise is, I'm like, of course, man.
That's fucking brilliant.
And then I watch you, you know, I see you at the store at times, so I'll watch your sets, and I was baffled how, just, you know, I'm new to it, how you went from, you did three sets, I followed along with your three sets, how you changed them, like, on the go.
joe rogan
Well, I'm trying to figure out the right way to do it.
It's good, but it's bad, because sometimes you go the wrong way.
Because I fuck around so much, because I change my material so much.
I change the approach, I try to change how I set it up.
I try to figure out what's the best way to do it.
I feel like once I settle in on one way, I'll hone that one way, but I don't even know if that's the right way.
So I try different ways, and sometimes those ways take me nowhere.
brendan schaub
But that's how you know, though, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's what the store is for.
What I'm doing is trying shit out.
brendan schaub
That was cool to see, though.
joe rogan
Doing a set, once you do a special, then the months after the special, it's like some of your material is fucking shaky.
And it'll eventually hammer together.
But on nights, some nights it's perfect, and on some nights you don't really have the approach correct.
It's like you're coming in for a landing.
brendan schaub
I saw Chris Rock get up there and just like...
joe rogan
Riff.
brendan schaub
Literally, he was just like, what?
And you could tell he just had nothing.
It was just going.
It's awfully brilliant still.
Well, you've always been, you know, very few people have seen you live more than me.
eddie bravo
Very few people.
For a few years there, I saw you live pretty much every time you did a show.
And...
You have your bits that are worked out and some that you're working out, but every night you went up and you mixed it totally different like a DJ. They were the same bits and you were working on them, but it was a different mix every night.
You never did shit in a row.
There was nothing.
It was all you just flowing.
joe rogan
The problem with that is when you do two shows, And you're on the second show, you're like, what the fuck did I say?
Have I done this one yet?
Or was it the earlier show?
eddie bravo
You gotta write it down, right?
Totally.
joe rogan
No, the second show has just got to be more rigid.
eddie bravo
Every show is a different mix.
You don't ever do the same shit twice.
It's a different mix.
I don't know if you've changed recently because of all your specials, but every show, I never saw the same show twice.
Never.
Same bits, but always mixed in and always a different segue.
It was fun for you.
I thought that was just...
joe rogan
Definitely that's part of it.
You want to keep it fresh, but it's all about trying to figure out what the right way to do it is.
I've got to try eight wrong ways to get the right way.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what else was crazy is I'm reading that Judd Apatow book, Sick in the Head.
I was going on the same show, and they come in like, hey, Judd's going to jump on before him.
I'm like, who's Judd?
I'm like, oh shit, and he walks back.
You don't want to be that fucking dick sucker.
But we just started talking.
I didn't know how cool he was going to be.
I don't know anything about him besides that book and his movies.
And then I was sitting there and he's like, you got a pen, man?
I'm like, I don't.
And then we started talking.
He was super cool.
And then I was just like, dude, your book?
And then we just got into the book.
And he was the nicest guy ever, man.
joe rogan
He's very, very nice.
He's super down to earth.
Easy to talk to.
brendan schaub
People don't realize that he wrote for Roseanne Barr, Tom Arnold, Adam Sandler.
He's wrote for a ton of guys.
Which I find is interesting because he's a stand-up comic.
But he would write for other people.
That's just because he's not a performer.
So he'd rather just write for them.
It's like, why not do it yourself?
joe rogan
Well, I think he just was real busy.
I think when you're producing movies and stuff and doing all the shit that he did, I don't think he had the time to go to the clubs.
And to do stand-up right, you gotta go to the clubs.
You gotta fuck around.
Like that other night that I'm talking about, we were talking about, rather, where you see me doing all these different sets.
Everybody does that.
You know, if you see Louis at the improv, you'll see him later that night at the store.
You know, these guys are hopping on and they're trying to mix stuff up.
brendan schaub
And doesn't Louis say that to really get stand-up you should only be doing that?
joe rogan
That's what he said the other night.
We were talking.
He said he'd been doing nothing but stand-up for the last two years.
And he was saying, you know what, you can be good and do other stuff, but to really be your best, you have to do only stand-up.
And I'm like, I think you're right.
I think he's right.
I mean, it makes sense.
brendan schaub
Would you be happy doing Just Stand-Up, though?
joe rogan
I would always do a podcast, I think.
I feel like podcasting helps it.
brendan schaub
I don't think you would have to just get rid of podcasting.
I feel like it helps you with ideas.
joe rogan
The UFC, I would definitely have to get rid of the UFC. And I think that's probably going to happen eventually anyway.
But the thing that you get from podcasting is you almost get an education.
Because it's a pretty peripheral education in terms of certain things that people say to me because I'm listening to say it and it blows me away, but I only retain a certain percentage of it.
Unless I listen to the podcast.
Like Lawrence Krauss, he's a theoretical physicist that I had on.
He was trying to explain some theories to me.
Stupid brain was just not taking it in.
And then, you know, I had Dennis McKenna on yesterday, who's, you know, a psychedelic pioneer, and he's a, what is this?
He's an ethnobotanist, and he's a professor.
I mean, he's a fucking insanely smart guy.
So I'd have to listen to that two or three times.
He was explaining to me the reason why certain drugs work so well, like in particular mushrooms.
And he was explaining, he pulled up like a molecule chart, he was explaining to us the difference between The molecules that are connected to psilocybin versus the molecules that make DMT. Too deep for me, sir.
It's really just one thing off.
Oh, it's off the charts deep.
But I feel like those kind of conversations, they make me smarter.
They make me more aware of shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Which is great for stand-up.
joe rogan
It's better for stand-up, yeah.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you who's a smart motherfucker to change lanes here, but...
I had a meeting with Aubrey Marcus.
You know, I know Aubrey like you did as a friend, and we've done some business together.
And we're in this meeting, and I looked down and said, what kind of fucking alpha brain are you taking?
He came in a suit and was all, and just started spitting.
I was like, God damn!
There's a reason why he's at where he's at me.
He's a smart dude.
joe rogan
He's very tuned on.
brendan schaub
I mean, I obviously didn't think he was a stupid human being, but he was dropping some fucking knowledge.
Give me whatever you're taking.
joe rogan
He's very smart, and he also, he knows a ton, especially from this business, about nutrient absorption.
Yes.
Like, you know, certain foods that you can eat where you really only absorb a certain amount of nutrients if it's connected to fats and things like that.
He's an expert on that shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, straight up expert, man.
joe rogan
His mom was a, she was like a naturopath or something like that.
brendan schaub
Was she?
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
But he's been pretty knowledgeable about that kind of stuff for a long time.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a unique dude.
joe rogan
There's a lot of, you know, we're really lucky.
We know a lot of really unique people, you know?
brendan schaub
Fo sho.
unidentified
Silence.
brendan schaub
Pure silence.
You ever see those Kim Jong-un videos of people worshipping him like he's the Beatles?
You have to.
eddie bravo
Have you seen those?
brendan schaub
You have to.
joe rogan
Did you see the one where they...
eddie bravo
It's almost too ridiculous.
Like, they are chasing him through the streets and soldiers acting like little girls.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
eddie bravo
It's unbelievable.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they literally have to or you get killed.
joe rogan
Man.
Did you ever see his thing?
eddie bravo
North Korea is fascinating.
It's very fascinating how that, like, it's...
brendan schaub
It's a terrible place.
eddie bravo
Mind-boggling, North Korea is.
joe rogan
It's amazing that it's real.
eddie bravo
Watch those videos of people worshipping him.
And then you watch, there's documentaries of people going in, they get inside, and they're, like, constantly being guided through North Korea.
There's a fake set.
There's fake sets.
Yeah, wait a minute.
And most people think...
brendan schaub
Look, they're so communist.
They're putting on...
eddie bravo
This is like a...
Yeah, they're putting on a show.
It's obvious that they're giving them a tour of the city, but they're being guided the whole way through.
They got people on them, and they're not allowed to do shit.
joe rogan
Did you see Shane Smith's thing when he went to North Korea?
brendan schaub
Yes.
eddie bravo
So most people are thinking...
Man, they're so communist, or whatever, or the dictatorship is so strong there that, look, they won't even let people walk around freely.
You know, it just seems like...
What the fuck is going on?
I don't know.
joe rogan
You think there's a conspiracy in the conspiracy?
eddie bravo
I think maybe.
joe rogan
Is this a double negative?
eddie bravo
Is this a fucking double cross?
Oh, they're testing missiles?
joe rogan
Did you see that shit?
eddie bravo
Have you seen the parade?
Show the clip of the parade where they show the soldiers marching in a parade and then they're bringing out the missiles.
brendan schaub
They said they're ready to go to war.
eddie bravo
They'll show that.
And then they'll cut to Jim Hong Wong, or Kim Jong Un, with his generals.
Like there's a clip of, like they're like, and they're kind of watching, and then they cut back to the parade, and it's the same clip.
And then they go back to Kim Jong Un.
It just, I don't know.
brendan schaub
You're not buying it.
eddie bravo
I think...
joe rogan
Well, here's what you have.
Before you go any further, let me just explain what stock footage is.
I think it's a distraction.
They use stock footage when they have stories on these guys, and they use it all the time.
Where they don't have footage of the guy currently, so they have a story about Kim Jong-un, they start talking about him, and then they show stock footage.
That stock footage could be him.
unidentified
No, but this piece was North Korea releases video.
joe rogan
I understand.
eddie bravo
That's what it was.
It was like, this is their video.
unidentified
The motherfuckers are trained just to move like that, though.
eddie bravo
Dude, I don't know.
brendan schaub
You can't turn your head.
joe rogan
It's a communist dictatorship.
eddie bravo
They have fake cities now.
joe rogan
Well, that's China.
China has more than...
eddie bravo
And North Korea does, too.
Right off the border.
They have, like, to entice the people of the South to come to North Korea.
unidentified
Well, they had probably a bunch of failed ideas.
eddie bravo
I think North Korea really needs to be looked into.
joe rogan
You think it's fake?
brendan schaub
We're about to go to war with them, son.
joe rogan
You think North Korea's fake?
eddie bravo
I'm not saying it's fake.
I'm just saying that it's fake.
I'm just saying that Kim Jong-un could eat...
I think it's all him.
I think they're all buddies.
I think at the very top, the top of Russia, the top of the United States, the UK, they're just putting on a show, and he's designated villain when we need to distract people from this or that.
Kim Jong-un is testing missiles.
He's testing missiles.
unidentified
He's gonna fire off one in China.
joe rogan
It's very possible that we've changed our foreign policy and that we're getting more aggressive with them and this is their response.
And that they also are very incompetent because they're terrified.
What they are essentially is a military dictatorship.
They're a terrified population and their science is shitty.
They don't have any fucking money.
eddie bravo
But we're getting all this from the mainstream media.
It can't be the truth.
joe rogan
But we're getting this from everywhere.
You can't always assume that everything from the mainstream media is not true, because here's the deal.
If something does happen that's a real thing that happens, the mainstream media is always going to cover it.
But Eddie, stop and listen to me here.
Stop and listen to me here, because this is important.
Just because something is in the mainstream media, and I know you distrust the mainstream media, doesn't mean that it's not true.
Because you always have to realize that if something happens, say like Mount St. Helens blows, right?
Lava flowing down the street, a bunch of people die.
If that's a real natural disaster that we all know happens, Fox News is going to cover that, CNN CNN's gonna cover that.
Everybody's gonna cover that.
eddie bravo
Not everything that they cover is fake.
joe rogan
So if North Korea does try to launch a missile and it does fail, everyone's gonna cover that.
So just because CNN has something on or Fox News has something on, it doesn't mean that it's fake.
eddie bravo
Oh, for sure.
I'm totally with you.
I'm just saying, watch those videos.
Look into North Korea.
brendan schaub
Who's the king of conspiracy theories?
joe rogan
Alex Jones?
brendan schaub
Alex Jones.
Do you see him?
He's like, yo, I'm just playing a character, man.
Like, that ain't real.
joe rogan
His lawyer said that.
That's what I would say if I was his lawyer, too.
brendan schaub
Me, too.
I would do it, too.
But even he was like, dude, I'm just saying some shit to get people going.
joe rogan
Mr. Jones belongs to a country club.
Mr. Jones is an outstanding citizen, and he is essentially just a really, really popular Phil Hendry.
brendan schaub
He's an animated...
He was like, I'm just putting on a performance, man.
I don't believe that shit.
joe rogan
He's a performance artist.
eddie bravo
He says, I don't believe that shit?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
He said it like that?
What did he say word for word?
joe rogan
Where'd you get your news?
eddie bravo
There's a big difference.
unidentified
He didn't say it.
eddie bravo
I'm just playing a character.
I don't believe that shit.
brendan schaub
That's what I heard.
eddie bravo
You're working him up.
joe rogan
I see what you're doing.
He's working you up, man.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying the savior of conspiracy theories was like, it's a performance.
I'm out.
eddie bravo
I'm just saying have fun.
Do a little investigation.
He did apologize for Pizza Gate.
brendan schaub
He did apologize.
eddie bravo
Don't be...
brendan schaub
He apologized for a pizza game.
He was like, that ain't real.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
They were suing him.
They were going after him.
So if you listen to him, he's reading a statement like, don't come after me.
They were going after him.
They're trying to shut him down.
That's what's going on.
He totally knows that.
Anyways, he's watching his ass.
They're coming after him.
Hashtag Tower 7. Anyways, anyways.
joe rogan
Tower 7. Tower.
I'm just saying, have fun.
eddie bravo
Look into North Korea.
It's fucking hysterical, dude.
It's hysterical.
joe rogan
I think he's just playing a character.
But Eddie, there's like a Pentagon to test ability to shoot down North Korean missiles.
jamie vernon
The video is the next video I played.
brendan schaub
I think this is the one I found.
joe rogan
Oh, look at the girl!
brendan schaub
Huh!
joe rogan
Well, listen, man.
This is strange time.
The fact that...
Here's what's strange.
The fact that these people are actually doing this.
The fact that you can get people to goose step down the middle of the street and ride a tank and salute the king.
Like, this shit's all real.
brendan schaub
They don't know any better.
joe rogan
Right, exactly.
eddie bravo
Find a video where they worship him.
That's the greatest shit.
joe rogan
But listen, what we're looking at right here is actually happening.
This is not CGI. So this is either two levels of weird.
It's either one level of weird where you have this populace that's so entranced by the military dictatorship that they just act out every day of their lives like this and they can't help themselves.
Or...
Two, this is all bullshit.
And these are all actors.
So they've got five million actors waving Korean flags and waving to the king and whatever the fuck it is.
You've got people goose-stepping.
There's a lot of people there.
I don't know how many thousand that is, but there's a lot of people there.
eddie bravo
They put on shows for people coming in.
You come in, they're going to put a show on for you.
Everywhere you go, they're putting on.
So there's actors everywhere already.
This is just a lot of them.
But they're already acting.
brendan schaub
She deserves an Academy Award.
eddie bravo
They're already acting.
joe rogan
These people goose-stepping and doing all those things.
Just the fact that they're able to do that.
Say if this is all fake.
Let's just go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.
unidentified
It's fishy.
joe rogan
Let's go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.
What are the odds that you're going to get that many actors who don't even have top billing to stay in line?
What are the odds?
What are the odds that you're going to get them to perform like that and drive tanks and keep their mouths shut?
brendan schaub
And this white boy's in on it, too?
eddie bravo
Everyone's pitching in on it.
joe rogan
It's way more likely that these people are under the thumb of a military dictatorship.
brendan schaub
Who kills a ton of people.
joe rogan
Right, because we've had a fuckload of military dictatorships in history, but what we haven't had is a country filled with actors.
And who's playing these actors?
Who's giving them that fucking pro-North Korea crazy mic?
brendan schaub
Who's the goddamn teacher?
And how do they train all of them?
joe rogan
Where are they rehearsing?
brendan schaub
Is it one big auditorium?
joe rogan
Is it one episode of Fame?
Look at them goose-stepping.
Dude, this is crazy.
Look how many people there.
Look how they turn their fucking tops over.
Whatever they're doing that changes it to the flat colors.
eddie bravo
This looks like a New Year's Eve parade.
joe rogan
Look at these people, man.
They're all marching in tune.
Just the fact that they get anybody to do it.
Either one.
unidentified
Look at these regular businessmen right there on the side.
joe rogan
There's a few people that are probably watching it.
eddie bravo
Dude, I'm just saying it looks fucking fishy.
Propaganda is running rampant.
brendan schaub
Propaganda with North Korea?
eddie bravo
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
Let me ask you this, Mr. I'm just saying.
Let me ask you this, Mr. I'm just saying.
What is more likely?
Is it more likely that these people are fucking terrified and like many, many, many other civilizations in the past.
eddie bravo
I've never seen a civilization like this ever.
unidentified
You're right.
joe rogan
You're right.
It's never existed.
But I'm sure it has in China.
I'm sure it has in ancient Japan.
I'm sure there's been people that- But we don't know that.
We don't know that.
eddie bravo
We're talking about shit.
We know for sure.
joe rogan
We don't know that.
But we don't know they acted like this.
The Aztecs killed 80,000 people after they've built one of their pyramids.
I mean, they did it over a period of a couple days.
eddie bravo
He's probably legit, but we've been lying to so much, I wouldn't doubt it.
joe rogan
But Eddie, what are you talking about?
Like, what's a lie?
All these people are actors, and they just live there.
They're all actors.
eddie bravo
I don't know if they love this shit.
joe rogan
But think about how crazy that is.
Wouldn't it be more likely that these poor people are just brainwashed?
Because we know people get brainwashed.
unidentified
Wouldn't it be more likely that this is like the craziest...
eddie bravo
When you're taking into consideration all the lies that we've been told, the faked moon missions, all this shit.
Nothing.
I mean, this is nothing.
They put together a bunch of people and made a fucking parade.
They faked the moon mission six times.
And everybody believes that shit.
joe rogan
But there are real events that happen every day that are in the news, right?
eddie bravo
This is just too convenient.
This is too much of a distraction.
My guess is we're not going to war with them.
joe rogan
That's my guess.
This would be one of the greatest productions in the history of the human race if this was fake.
eddie bravo
Greater production than the moon landings?
joe rogan
This is bigger than anything.
Getting all these Korean people to dance around.
eddie bravo
Dude, that's a couple thousand people!
joe rogan
Dude, no one's willing to do this.
eddie bravo
So 3,000 people.
joe rogan
You don't think someone would snitch?
brendan schaub
You don't think someone would snitch eventually?
joe rogan
These are not the same people that faked the moon missions.
eddie bravo
It's legit.
Find the people that are worshipping him.
joe rogan
But don't say it's legit.
These people are these people that are stuck in North Korea.
People that have escaped have told horror stories.
It's like a giant cult.
brendan schaub
It's horrible, man.
joe rogan
It's like this is a fucking, you know, 10 million cult of the moonies.
eddie bravo
I'm not saying they're actors.
I'm just saying there's something fishy about the whole North Korea thing.
unidentified
Of course it's fishy.
eddie bravo
I'm not saying that they're actors.
It could be anything.
I'm just saying, I don't know.
I'm saying it smells fishy.
Something is not right about what they're telling us about North Korea.
I don't know.
They're just something off.
joe rogan
Here's the real thing that's most fucked up about North Korea, is that even if you freed them from this guy, They've been under the thumb of a communist dictatorship for so long, they wouldn't know what to do.
brendan schaub
They're institutionalized.
joe rogan
Yes, they really are.
It's like a guy who's been in jail for too long.
brendan schaub
They wouldn't know what to do, yeah, they'd get out and fucking...
joe rogan
Fucks people's heads up, man.
Do you know how many people would be so susceptible to some new form of dictatorship?
Fuck, man.
I mean, you literally have a whole country.
They always do that in these countries when they remove a dictator and then there's this power vacuum and a way more horrible person takes their place.
They're like, what the fuck, man?
Like, they got rid of Gaddafi and now it's just a crazy ISIS stronghold.
brendan schaub
It's chaos.
joe rogan
Yeah, Libya, apparently, man, I don't know too much about it, but they were saying that it's a failed state.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's the Wild West.
With North Korea, though, he controls their media, TV, internet.
They can't log on to certain fucking sites.
Some don't get internet.
There's no iPhone.
You bring an iPhone, and they're like, God damn, you're from the future.
They still got flip phones and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're living in a really weird country.
eddie bravo
I think the globalists like it.
I think we need villains and they probably help him out and fund him.
You know what I mean?
They like the shit he's doing.
They need a distraction.
Anything happens, boom!
Testing missiles.
unidentified
Boom.
eddie bravo
For two weeks, we're going to be all over North Korea.
A couple months, and then it's going to be gone.
Watch.
This is like the new Ebola.
Remember, there was Ebola, Ebola.
Distraction, distraction.
North Korea is perfect to distract.
That's what I think.
brendan schaub
He's killing hundreds of thousands of people.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
joe rogan
You think Ebola was a distraction?
You don't think Ebola was a bunch of really smart doctors stopping some shit before it got horrible because you got a hemorrhagic virus escaping from Africa?
eddie bravo
People really got it.
joe rogan
People really got it.
Just because a bunch of shit happens at the same time doesn't mean that one of those things that happens was a design to make sure you don't pay attention to the other thing.
Just because they dropped that mother of all bombs in Afghanistan, did you see that shit?
brendan schaub
Killed like three people.
joe rogan
Killed 90. 90?
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
brendan schaub
Did you see the size of that fucking thing?
joe rogan
It only killed 90?
It had to go through the ground.
eddie bravo
Okay, so what are they saying?
What's the story?
They launched the what?
brendan schaub
It's the biggest bomb ever created.
joe rogan
Do you know what the mother of all bombs?
It's the heaviest, most powerful bomb ever.
It's crazy when you watch the footage.
unidentified
There's a picture.
brendan schaub
Have you seen it, Jamie?
joe rogan
The blast radius is a mile.
brendan schaub
It looks like you're dropping a straight spaceship.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And it killed, at first they're like, it killed 40 people.
Goddamn!
Send one of our crazy mass shooters.
joe rogan
They'll do work.
Did you say 40?
We meant 90. Well, I meant 90. Look at this fucking...
Yeah, they gotta drop it.
Does it have a parachute?
unidentified
Does it have propellers on it, son?
joe rogan
I mean, it hit and apparently devastated this tunnel system that they were having a hard time getting to because they said that ISIS has this stronghold out there.
Look at that fucking beast.
21,000 pounds.
unidentified
Do you think there's a video of that from the Afghanistan hit?
brendan schaub
Yeah, there is.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a video from the helicopter.
brendan schaub
It's like the military video.
I was expecting a little more out of it, to be honest with you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to tell what's going on because it's black and white.
brendan schaub
Why'd they paint that bitch Charger orange?
joe rogan
That bitch, no, came from America.
brendan schaub
Why'd they put fucking white racing stripes on his top?
joe rogan
It is a crazy little machine.
brendan schaub
That's a big-ass bomb.
You're not buying that shit, Eddie?
It only killed 90 people.
eddie bravo
It looks like an explosion.
It looks like an explosion.
brendan schaub
That's a bomb.
unidentified
That's what bombs do.
joe rogan
That's what bombs do, though.
eddie bravo
But that's all it is.
A bomb went off.
That's what we saw.
joe rogan
No, it's the biggest bomb that ever has been dropped in war outside of a nuclear bomb.
eddie bravo
All right.
joe rogan
Well, you don't believe that?
brendan schaub
Non-nuclear bombs.
eddie bravo
I don't believe shit.
joe rogan
But why do you automatically assume that?
unidentified
I'm crazy.
I'm crazy.
eddie bravo
This is how crazy I am.
joe rogan
Tell me.
eddie bravo
I watch this and I think this is...
I'm trying to figure out what's the angle.
Why are they showing us this?
That's what I'm thinking.
That's how crazy I am.
I'm fucking so deep down.
brendan schaub
You don't believe anything.
eddie bravo
When it comes to military shit that's blasted on the History Channel or CNN, I'm automatically, what's their angle?
I don't buy it.
joe rogan
Okay, let me ask you this.
brendan schaub
You need to have a conversation with Tim Kennedy.
You need to talk to Tim Kennedy.
joe rogan
Dinosaurs.
eddie bravo
I'm crazy.
joe rogan
Dinosaurs, real or not?
eddie bravo
I don't trust that shit.
joe rogan
You don't trust T-Rex?
eddie bravo
I love that Triceratops because everybody loves when the Triceratops fights the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Everybody's rooting for the Triceratops.
If you're rooting for the Tyrannosaurus Rex in that epic battle, you're a douchebag.
joe rogan
Right, you're right.
brendan schaub
So you dig those.
What about the woolly mammoth?
eddie bravo
I would say yes.
brendan schaub
We have one.
eddie bravo
It's a fucking elephant.
You know what I mean?
It's a fucking elephant.
You know what a Tyrannosaurus Rex is?
brendan schaub
They have a new one where they're going to bring it back.
eddie bravo
Tyrannosaurus Rex is a giant kangaroo.
That's what it is.
That's my guess.
Look at it!
It looks exactly the same.
It's got a tail that hops around on two legs.
That's a fucking...
They found a giant kangaroo and when they figured it out they go, dude, it's a kangaroo.
They're like, shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Well, listen, if it was a giant kangaroo, it would be just as impressive.
You got a fucking hundred foot tall kangaroo?
Can you imagine?
brendan schaub
That's terrifying!
joe rogan
How about that one jack kangaroo?
You see that one jack kangaroo that lives in a park somewhere?
brendan schaub
Dude, he's j-j-j-jacked!
He's on that acai.
joe rogan
He's like the Kevin Randleman of kangaroos.
You ever seen this kangaroo?
eddie bravo
Yes, I have.
He's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
You saw that guy who fought the kangaroo?
joe rogan
Yeah, the guy's an asshole.
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
joe rogan
But here's my thing.
If a kangaroo was 100 feet tall, it'd be just as impressive as a lizard 100 feet tall.
It's all crazy.
eddie bravo
And what about triceratops?
Doesn't it fucking look like just a different kind of rhinoceros?
Like a giant rhinoceros?
joe rogan
Well, Eddie, it is.
brendan schaub
It is.
unidentified
Look at him.
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Why is he like that Diaz body?
unidentified
Why is he like this?
joe rogan
209, bitch!
brendan schaub
209, bitch!
eddie bravo
I'm not surprised, motherfuckers.
unidentified
He's so jacked.
brendan schaub
Look at him.
unidentified
I bet that kangaroo would fuck us up.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
That's Vitor Bell for TRT glory days.
eddie bravo
Look at that vein on his bicep.
That's like Mark Coleman in 95. That's a tank.
unidentified
What a tank he is.
brendan schaub
Do you think the three of us could beat him up?
joe rogan
No, man.
We're gonna run.
We're gonna get that samurai sword sticking in his asshole.
brendan schaub
We're gonna destroy that fucking thing.
eddie bravo
The three of us could fuck him up.
joe rogan
That's a scary animal.
It's a big fucking scary animal.
brendan schaub
They kick you, you're fucked.
joe rogan
Yeah, they can get like seven feet tall.
They're fucking huge.
brendan schaub
Is that real?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's certain ones that are...
That's a real kangaroo, dude.
brendan schaub
Why are they so jacked?
joe rogan
Well, they're really...
There's two different kinds.
There's red kangaroos and gray kangaroos.
I don't remember which one's the big one.
I think it's a red kangaroo.
brendan schaub
The red sounds way more gnarly.
joe rogan
Say, what's the largest...
Google, what's the largest kangaroo, young Jamie?
I think it's a...
I think it's a red one.
brendan schaub
200-pound ripped kangaroo crushes me.
unidentified
Good lord!
eddie bravo
Is that a video?
joe rogan
So, Eddie, you don't think that T-Rexes are real?
eddie bravo
When you look into when dinosaur bones were first discovered...
joe rogan
I want a meme that says, when you look into...
unidentified
When you look into the timeline, it wasn't just like, oh, all dinosaurs were discovered.
eddie bravo
There was a timeline.
There was a lot of fraudulent shit that was dudes saying, hey, look what I found.
They're going, bitch, that's just a whale bone.
They're like, fuck.
They were getting paid.
There was a lot of fraud going on in the 1800s when they were discovering dinosaurs.
But what about the layers of earth?
What was that?
brendan schaub
What about the way the earth is, like the layers, and you can tell certain time periods from the layers of layers.
joe rogan
The stratus.
eddie bravo
Well, if you're talking about carbon dating, there's a lot of science that goes back and forth, like it ain't shit, or it's real, or it's not legit.
joe rogan
No, it's pretty much universally acknowledged that carbon dating is effective.
eddie bravo
Okay, well not the stuff that I'm looking into.
I don't know.
I'm looking on YouTube now.
Remember, I'm getting all my shit from YouTube.
So don't take my word for it.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think you chase your tail with this shit.
eddie bravo
I'm crazy.
joe rogan
You chase your tail with this shit, man.
eddie bravo
No, I'm not.
I'm having fun.
It's entertaining.
joe rogan
Do you really love it?
brendan schaub
He loves it.
eddie bravo
Figuring out how we're being bullshitted is very...
joe rogan
But that's the thing.
eddie bravo
I'm obsessed with it.
How are they bullshitting us?
I love that shit.
See, I like that.
brendan schaub
I like that Eddie's like this.
I think you need people like this.
unidentified
Yes.
Like, he loves it.
brendan schaub
Like, he loves it.
eddie bravo
I think...
This is how crazy I am.
I think we're being lied to about fucking everything.
brendan schaub
Your kid's gonna grow up just super skeptical.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I'm already telling him don't trust anything you see on TV. No.
We don't let him watch TV. Why do you let him watch TV? We let him watch a little cartoons here and there.
brendan schaub
Spongebob's corrupt as fuck.
eddie bravo
I'm gonna raise him not trusting TV. I don't give a fuck what anybody says.
You can't say nobody would ever disagree with that.
The TV is not good for kids.
It's not good for kids.
joe rogan
Why don't you have a show on the Alex Jones channel?
What has happened?
brendan schaub
I agree.
You went there, fucked.
eddie bravo
I went a total retard on him.
I went full flat earth on him.
brendan schaub
Even he doesn't believe in Flat Earth.
eddie bravo
No, no, no, no.
Most conspiracy theorists do not...
They think Flat Earth is the most retarded thing ever.
Which is correct.
When Joe first brought it up about a year, year and a half ago, he said, dude, he was trying to basically say how stupid people are.
He said, do you know people still believe the Earth is flat and the sun is 3,000 miles away?
And I remember sitting there thinking, shit, what are they on?
Amish or something?
Like, how dumb do you have to be to think the world is flat?
joe rogan
I have YouTube videos later.
eddie bravo
How dumb?
No, no, no.
unidentified
And then you brought it up again.
eddie bravo
And then you brought it up again.
You brought it up again, like maybe six months later.
And I said on your podcast, I said, that is so dumb.
That's got to be some kind of CIA psyop.
It's got to be some kind of destruction.
brendan schaub
Where the fuck did you take a weird last turn?
eddie bravo
And then I was in class, and we were talking about conspiracy theories, and my buddy Manny, full-blown conspiracy theory.
brendan schaub
Jiu-jitsu class.
He goes, do you ever, do you ever, my jiu-jitsu class.
eddie bravo
He goes, we're talking about my YouTube class.
brendan schaub
I thought it was a conspiracy class.
I was like, God, you go to school?
joe rogan
He teaches.
eddie bravo
I teach.
brendan schaub
No, I know that.
I thought he meant like a straight class.
eddie bravo
I teach people how to kill Brendan.
I'm very weird, brother.
brendan schaub
So Manny turns to me and goes, dude, you ever look into Flat Earth?
There you go.
eddie bravo
This was like eight months ago or something.
And I said, right when he said that...
joe rogan
You should say, Manny, you ever look into astronomy?
eddie bravo
Yeah, right when he said that...
brendan schaub
Manny, did you miss fourth grade?
eddie bravo
Right when he said that...
joe rogan
Manny, anybody drop you on your head?
brendan schaub
Manny, what are you smoking?
eddie bravo
I can't believe anything that ever comes out of his mouth again.
That's what I thought.
I'm like, Jesus.
And I'm like, Manny, please don't ever bring that shit up again.
You keep that shit, dude.
joe rogan
Cut to.
eddie bravo
Dude, that's a CIA sidlock.
I'm telling you the story.
And then Ernest comes up to me and he goes, Hey man, you ever look into Flat Earth?
I said, dude, Jesus goddamn Christ.
And he goes, Hey man, I got a master's in engineering.
Look into it.
And I just wanted to go.
I just went home and I was just going to get him up.
joe rogan
How about looking at what fucking school that was so we can tell people?
brendan schaub
Phoenix online.
joe rogan
That's the same shit.
eddie bravo
I'm so crazy.
I so don't believe anything.
brendan schaub
You want something else to do.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I tried to debunk it.
I was trying to debunk it.
joe rogan
I was Mr. Debunker.
There's a fucking Japanese satellite that takes a photo from 22,000 miles out every 10 minutes.
Those are the worst pictures ever.
eddie bravo
Come on, those Japanese.
brendan schaub
It doesn't show that it's flat, though.
joe rogan
Even if the You know, Jamie, put up those pictures.
It's not the worst pictures.
eddie bravo
Put up those Japanese pictures.
joe rogan
It's from 22,000 miles away.
eddie bravo
I can't believe you believe those pictures.
joe rogan
Do you remember when you had a flip phone?
You remember when you had a flip phone, dude, and the front-facing cameras were always dog shit?
brendan schaub
Always.
joe rogan
You know, on the back-facing one, it was pretty legit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's how it works, man.
joe rogan
22,000 miles away, it's hard to take a good iPhone 7. Fake pictures.
brendan schaub
Have you ever seen a picture of a flat, though?
eddie bravo
No, I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
The crazy thing.
I'm not saying it's flat.
I'm just saying, damn, when you look into it, I'm saying we don't know what the fuck wrong.
joe rogan
But wait a minute, Eddie.
That's what I'm saying.
We don't know what wrong.
This Japanese satellite.
Look into it.
Hold on, Eddie.
This Japanese satellite that all these hundreds of scientists worked on for like a decade.
eddie bravo
They fake moon landing.
joe rogan
They shoot it out into the space.
eddie bravo
They fake the moon landing.
joe rogan
They take a picture every ten minutes and you can download it from the websites.
eddie bravo
CGI composites.
joe rogan
So constantly making CGI in some sort of a computer bank somewhere.
eddie bravo
Like they do it in NASA. NASA, that's what they do.
joe rogan
Why do you think, if they have the technology to make CGI that looks that good, why don't they have the technology to shoot a camera into space?
eddie bravo
Where's the pictures from NASA? How come they don't have any?
joe rogan
They don't have that space kind of...
eddie bravo
Oh, they don't have the technology?
joe rogan
No, they just never did it.
brendan schaub
They also don't get it.
What the fuck about proving it's round?
eddie bravo
These Japanese pictures, I've seen them.
unidentified
Put them up.
joe rogan
They don't have that kind of space satellite.
eddie bravo
Show me a real picture.
joe rogan
Listen, NASA does not have one of those satellites.
unidentified
Fake.
joe rogan
Why do you think that's fake?
eddie bravo
That's fake as fuck!
joe rogan
Why does it look fake as fuck?
brendan schaub
It looks like something you'd see in a movie.
joe rogan
That's because when they do it in a movie, they try to make it look like this, which is what looks real.
eddie bravo
If that's real to you, man, shit.
joe rogan
You don't think it's real?
brendan schaub
They faked six moon landings.
joe rogan
Eddie, Eddie, stop saying that because it's irrelevant.
We're not talking about the same people.
eddie bravo
It looks fake to me.
joe rogan
Eddie, that's 1969. We're talking about 2017. Hello.
So you think there's some gigantic conspiracy involving the Japanese government where they put up a fake picture of the earth from 22,000 miles up every 10 minutes.
High resolution, downloadable photo.
Why wouldn't it be real?
Isn't it just as likely that the Japanese actually did launch that thing into space?
Why would it be fake?
eddie bravo
Propaganda, man.
brendan schaub
Why would they care that it's not flat?
joe rogan
Is there a photo of this flat earth?
eddie bravo
No, like I just said again, there's no photo of the flat Earth from space.
There's no photo of the round Earth from space.
unidentified
That's not true.
joe rogan
That's not true.
eddie bravo
It's all fake.
joe rogan
Why do you say they're fake, though?
eddie bravo
They look fake.
joe rogan
They look CGI. But you're not an expert in imagery.
eddie bravo
Looks fake to me.
When I watch Avatar, I don't need to be an expert to know it's fake.
When I watch Avatar, I'm not an expert.
unidentified
It's fake.
joe rogan
Avatar's at the movies.
When you watch some ridiculous kung fu video, being a martial arts expert, if you were sitting next to someone who told you that their sensei can't compete in the UFC because they're too deadly, wouldn't you get pissed off?
Because you're an actual martial arts expert.
That's just like you, with no science background whatsoever, talking about these photos.
eddie bravo
I'm crazy.
I'm crazy.
joe rogan
But why think like that?
I'm crazy.
But why indulge that?
eddie bravo
I'm crazy.
joe rogan
But why not indulge the full realm of possibilities and not cling to the conspiracy every single time?
eddie bravo
No, no.
NASA can't get pictures.
They've been doing CGI composites this whole time.
joe rogan
But please answer my question.
Forget about stating what NASA does.
Please answer my question.
Why do you always go towards the conspiracy?
Why do you never consider the possibility that maybe...
eddie bravo
Too many lies.
joe rogan
But Eddie, they're not the same people.
eddie bravo
It's all the same.
joe rogan
So everybody's lying?
eddie bravo
It's a global thing, yes.
All the European space agencies lying.
They're all in on it.
It's a global thing.
joe rogan
So what do you think's going on up there?
eddie bravo
I think all governments, most of them, the globalists, they're all working together to control their people.
brendan schaub
What's the advantage though, Eddie, if the Earth isn't round?
eddie bravo
I told you, I'm crazy.
I'm crazy.
brendan schaub
I know, but what's the advantage that it's not round?
joe rogan
They control you, bro, with the ice wall.
brendan schaub
They just wanna fuck with us?
eddie bravo
Keep you on a...
I don't know, man.
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
Doesn't make sense.
Why would they just control people?
eddie bravo
You gotta find out and find the sense.
You could find the sense.
joe rogan
It's really easy.
eddie bravo
You put them on a ball because, again, I'm crazy.
You put them on a ball.
My guess is you're on a ball.
You're nowhere.
Don't try to go anywhere.
Just stay there and work.
unidentified
Oh, hell no.
Stay there anymore.
brendan schaub
You saw the Truman Show.
joe rogan
You watched the Truman Show a little too much.
So they sat down and said, you know what?
We've got to release some fake math that shows that you can demonstrate that the Earth is round.
unidentified
Dude, there's no pictures of the Earth from space, man.
joe rogan
What is that?
We just looked at one, Eddie.
Stop saying that.
eddie bravo
It was fake.
joe rogan
You don't know that it's fake.
Okay.
But you're saying, look, it's a real problem when you say something.
unidentified
I'm crazy.
joe rogan
But don't say that.
eddie bravo
I am.
joe rogan
Just stop.
Just stop and think.
Because you're communicating to millions of people.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
And you're saying something that doesn't make any sense.
eddie bravo
It does make sense.
joe rogan
But you don't know anything about imagery.
You don't know anything about...
I don't.
You don't know anything about that.
eddie bravo
It looks fake to me.
joe rogan
You don't have a bad nose.
eddie bravo
That's a fake-ass picture.
joe rogan
But you don't have...
Come on, Eddie.
You're just looking at it with the naked eye.
It looks real to everybody else in this room.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
You're coming at it with a confirmation bias.
eddie bravo
Crazy, right?
brendan schaub
No, I don't think it makes you crazy.
eddie bravo
I'm just having fun with it.
joe rogan
But you have this direct inclination to always go towards a conspiracy.
unidentified
It doesn't have to piss anybody off.
joe rogan
It's a disservice towards your opinion.
eddie bravo
That's what you think?
Cool.
You're getting angry about it.
joe rogan
No, I'm not getting angry at all.
eddie bravo
We're just being stoners here.
joe rogan
We're being stoners.
eddie bravo
I'm like, I don't believe that shit.
joe rogan
I'm not raising my voice.
What I'm trying to do is corner your ideas.
I'm trying to corner your ideas.
Because you're saying these things to...
You're very influential.
You're saying these things to millions of people, but I don't think you're thinking correctly.
eddie bravo
I'm telling, I know.
That's why I've stated many times.
joe rogan
That you're crazy.
I'm losing my mind.
When do you think you started losing it?
eddie bravo
I think I was, you know, as soon as I found out when I was 11 that everybody wasn't Catholic, that's when I started losing my mind.
unidentified
I'm like, wait a minute.
eddie bravo
I'm like, everybody's not Catholic?
I thought everybody was Catholic.
There's other religions?
Then how do we know we're right?
There's a bunch, what's a Jew?
Oh shit, there's more Jews than Catholics.
How do we know we have the right religion?
I'm like, okay.
You started questioning it.
Yes, that's when I started going crazy.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
eddie bravo
People that question authority are usually looked at as crazy.
Conspiracy theorists.
unidentified
The CIA coined the term conspiracy theorists.
brendan schaub
You're a smart dude.
You're not crazy.
joe rogan
There's a problem in the way you approach these things, because you approach them all knowing, before you even start, that they're a conspiracy.
eddie bravo
I'm telling you what I think.
joe rogan
So that's confirmation bias.
eddie bravo
I'm telling you, hey, dude, when you lie so much, you've got to prove it to me.
You lie so goddamn much, I'm never going to be saying the things that a defense attorney would say.
unidentified
But you don't have to.
eddie bravo
I'm saying the things that the prosecuting attorney would say.
joe rogan
You say that all the time.
eddie bravo
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
But it's not a good analogy because it's court.
eddie bravo
That's exactly how I look at it.
joe rogan
And courts filled with lies.
eddie bravo
The government's being accused of lying, and they've been caught lying, so they're in court.
joe rogan
So are you saying to me, finish this?
It's not the government.
eddie bravo
It's all government scientists.
You think scientists?
You think there's these independent scientists coming?
It's all government scientists.
But why would you think?
joe rogan
Why would you think?
eddie bravo
You don't think the globalists Haven't controlled science and information since day one?
joe rogan
You think this is like a new thing?
Their name, the globalists.
If they were the flattest, they would be like, yeah, it's flat.
But they're like, no, fuck these guys.
We're globalists.
eddie bravo
No, no, the globalists is what Alex calls people.
brendan schaub
I feel like Eddie could flip me if we just spent like a day together.
joe rogan
I think you're just trying to make fun.
eddie bravo
Hey, I'm just having fun, man.
I like finding out.
brendan schaub
I don't think Eddie's crazy, though.
eddie bravo
I don't trust shit coming from the government.
Does that make me crazy?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
He's got a little too deep, but he's not crazy.
joe rogan
The problem is this idea of the government.
The government consists of a bunch of individuals with a hundred different agencies.
Eddie, do you know they have infighting?
Do you know the CIA and the FBI go after each other?
Of course they do.
One government.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of personal shit going on in between.
Of course they do.
joe rogan
But it's not just personal shit.
There's a bunch of different factions that you call the government.
eddie bravo
I agree.
joe rogan
And the idea that it's all like the government can't be trusted.
eddie bravo
I just say that because I'm not going to...
I mean, you want me to pick out some agencies?
Yeah, NASA. I could pick out some...
But just in general, in general, it's...
History, science, education, energy, everything has always been controlled by the government since day one.
Radio has been used as propaganda since the day it was invented.
You think some independent dude just invented radio and then he started broadcasting his favorite music and shit and what his thoughts were?
No.
It was the government from day one in radio.
It was the government in all countries from day one in TV. In the movies, it was all radio, TV, and the movies have always been about propaganda.
Always in every country.
It's nothing new.
It's old school gangsters.
Our country is the most gangsters.
joe rogan
What does this have to do with the world being flat?
eddie bravo
No, no, this is how gangster our government is.
There was a war on drugs.
We started a war on drugs.
Turns out we're bringing it in.
Then there's a war on terrorism.
Turns out we created Al-Qaeda.
You understand why I'm crazy?
I'm crazy because of that shit.
I'm like, you could believe that shit.
You want to believe that shit?
joe rogan
Good luck, but I ain't.
You just apply this to everything.
eddie bravo
Basically anything comes from the government.
joe rogan
Dinosaurs don't come from the government.
eddie bravo
There's so much fraud when you look into it.
joe rogan
Astronomy doesn't come from the government.
It comes from scientists.
eddie bravo
Look into it.
Look into it, man.
joe rogan
But Eddie, I have looked into it.
eddie bravo
Dinosaurs are for kids.
joe rogan
Look, you could go over these different sections of the earth.
unidentified
That looks so fake.
joe rogan
Yeah, well you can look at the next one that comes ten minutes later and maybe you won't think that one's fake.
Oh wow, that one's kind of real.
eddie bravo
It looks all fake.
joe rogan
It doesn't look fake.
To me, it looks like what the fucking Earth probably looks like when you're 22,000 miles away.
eddie bravo
To you, it does.
Not to me.
unidentified
This is NASA's, by the way.
eddie bravo
It's no big deal.
joe rogan
Can we agree to disagree?
Yeah, but why think that it does?
eddie bravo
Because I don't trust shit.
joe rogan
Why think that the government does make these fake pictures of the Earth?
Don't you think that would be like a risky thing?
unidentified
We could speculate.
eddie bravo
You want to speculate?
I mean, I could speculate.
joe rogan
I want to hear you speculating.
eddie bravo
It's easier to control people when they're on a ball.
joe rogan
I've been trying to tell people that forever.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
Like, we've got to live on a ball.
I told that to my wife.
It would be easy to get the kids to listen if we just lived on a ball.
Fuck this house bullshit.
eddie bravo
I don't know what to believe.
I don't know what to believe.
joe rogan
That doesn't even make any sense.
Why would it be easier to get people to listen if they're on a ball rather than if they're on a plate?
eddie bravo
Because if there's more land, people are going to want to work.
There's actually more land shit.
joe rogan
What do you mean, it's more land?
eddie bravo
Who knows?
If you...
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
I don't understand what you're talking about.
Like, more land.
eddie bravo
You're saying, if the world is flat and the flat Earth model is true, what's the point of it?
What's the point of...
joe rogan
So all the math is fake, like that the Earth is going 24 hours in a circle.
Is that all fake?
It spins 1,000 miles an hour.
eddie bravo
When you look into it, it's stationary.
If you look into the experiments to prove that the Earth is spinning, all of them failed.
Look into it.
You can just think that.
We've been indoctrinated into thinking.
joe rogan
That's not true.
eddie bravo
Okay, I'm crazy.
I get it.
jamie vernon
I don't have the science in my head to back it up either, but that's not true.
unidentified
You can't say things like that.
jamie vernon
That's what Eric Dubé says, and he's not backing it up.
eddie bravo
Where's the evidence that...
Find the evidence...
unidentified
There are 30-year-old kids in high school right now that can show you the evidence with scientific...
eddie bravo
How come you can't show it to me?
unidentified
Because I'm not in class right now and I'm not up to date.
I'm doing JRE work right now.
joe rogan
Okay, you're talking about some shit you don't know about.
eddie bravo
You're talking about some shit you don't know about.
joe rogan
But so are you.
eddie bravo
I'm just saying I don't trust it.
joe rogan
You're saying something that people have been proving for...
Hundreds and hundreds of years.
eddie bravo
Look into the Mickelson-Morley experiments.
Einstein said it himself.
Einstein said, to this day, there is no proof that we're moving.
Dude, you guys just haven't looked into it.
unidentified
That's all it is.
joe rogan
You're watching YouTube videos, Eddie.
There's a difference between looking into it and watching YouTube videos.
eddie bravo
Do you watch them all from the same channel?
Okay, what if it's true that Albert Einstein said there is no evidence that the Earth is spinning?
What if he said a quote?
You say that's not true, I saw it on YouTube, but what if we find out that it is true, then what?
joe rogan
What if they find out leprechauns are really butt-fucking genies on the moon?
eddie bravo
Exactly, that's what I thought.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
eddie bravo
That's what I said, so you're saying, oh, it's on YouTube.
unidentified
Do you really think that Einstein said that?
joe rogan
Maybe in 1947 there wasn't much evidence that the Earth was spinning because they didn't understand it yet.
When we're talking about something that happened more than a half a century ago, Einstein is like, you compare all the people that are alive today, whether it's Lawrence Krauss or Stephen Hawking's most famous failed experiment.
unidentified
It's the Mickelson-Morley experiment.
They couldn't recreate it.
It was in the 1880s.
I looked this up when I watched the podcast.
True science is supposed to recreate it.
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
You keep using that.
Look at the Mickelson-Morley experiments.
I did.
I read up information on it.
It's an experiment that was supposed to be able to be recreated.
jamie vernon
It was not able to be recreated.
So that evidence is used by Flat Earth supporting people.
unidentified
Like you just said, like, go look it up.
Go look it up.
So I did look it up.
eddie bravo
True science is repeatable.
You can't repeat it.
It's not real science.
joe rogan
You don't understand what you're saying.
unidentified
That's what you're saying.
I'm trying to tell you that.
That's the evidence you're trying to say.
joe rogan
They say the experiment showed the Earth is not spinning.
No one can reproduce that experiment.
That's why it's not real.
So this thing that you keep repeating is bullshit.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
And this thing that you keep...
But don't.
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
Hey, where did you get this information?
joe rogan
Jamie.
eddie bravo
Where'd you get it?
unidentified
Where'd I get what?
eddie bravo
This information.
Where is this coming from?
unidentified
This is coming off the internet.
Exactly.
eddie bravo
So you're reading some information.
I'm reading some information.
unidentified
Slow down.
eddie bravo
You didn't go to the library.
unidentified
Slow down.
eddie bravo
Oh, it's on Wikipedia.
unidentified
Just slow down.
joe rogan
Eddie, stop doing that.
unidentified
There's sources here.
jamie vernon
There's a book called the American Journal of Science.
unidentified
I'm sure that a lot of people respect that.
eddie bravo
Which is bought and paid for.
unidentified
Well, maybe.
It is.
eddie bravo
It's bought and paid for it.
It's part of that.
joe rogan
Here's the thing, Eddie.
eddie bravo
It's like the Washington Post.
joe rogan
Eddie, why would anybody be paying money for people to lie about the world's wedding?
eddie bravo
That's a very good question that everybody asks coming in.
Everybody asks that question.
joe rogan
Coming in to the group.
eddie bravo
Have a seat.
Have some coffee.
joe rogan
My name's Eddie.
eddie bravo
One by one, they're getting knocked down.
joe rogan
Hi, Eddie.
No, no, Eddie, they're not.
They're not.
They're not.
eddie bravo
It's huge.
joe rogan
They're not getting knocked down.
That's why we just read this thing that you've been citing, and you didn't even understand it when we were reading it.
eddie bravo
You read off the internet.
You read off the internet.
unidentified
I read it off the internet, too.
eddie bravo
I read it off the internet, too.
unidentified
I don't have any books here.
I'll go find Encyclopedia if you want.
eddie bravo
No, we're both reading off the internet.
We're both getting our information off the internet.
joe rogan
Eddie, one of them is peer-reviewed journals from scientists.
eddie bravo
From American Journal of Science?
unidentified
Come on, that's like MIST. The internet is also data and articles.
eddie bravo
That's like The Economist.
joe rogan
So you think it's more likely...
More likely that everyone is in on it and lying than it is one guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about and makes a YouTube video and you get convinced.
And it's attractive to you because it seems like it would be an amazing conspiracy to be ahead of.
And you get trapped in the fucking rabbit hole and you go down the flat earth rabbit hole and you find yourself defending things with experiments that you don't even understand.
Which means you haven't really looked into it.
eddie bravo
You just read some shit that he pulled up off the internet and you're like all over it.
joe rogan
I know you didn't understand.
eddie bravo
No, I understand it now.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
But I understood it, and he had explained it to you twice.
You didn't understand it.
You were arguing for it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
This is the proof.
Now I understand it.
There was an experiment to prove that the Earth wasn't moving.
joe rogan
And it was not repeatable.
eddie bravo
And then they proved it.
No.
joe rogan
No, they didn't prove it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
I get it.
They didn't prove it, but that doesn't mean that it's spinning.
joe rogan
Oh, Jamie, I'm sure you can find some evidence that the Earth is spinning.
Eddie, people have known it's spinning forever.
That's how the seasons work.
That's how you see the sun.
We spin around.
That's why it makes eclipses.
That's why you can track time zones.
That's why you can put a piece of stick in the ground.
eddie bravo
You're saying all the correct shit.
joe rogan
It acts as a sundial.
eddie bravo
You're saying all the shit you would say.
joe rogan
Eddie, there's a fundamental problem with the way you approach these things.
eddie bravo
No, there's not a problem.
joe rogan
The problem is you go into them.
eddie bravo
I don't trust shit.
unidentified
You do.
joe rogan
But it's not that I trust shit.
unidentified
I don't have a problem.
joe rogan
Eddie, you know I don't trust shit.
eddie bravo
I'm having fun with it.
You know I don't.
It's flat or round.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
eddie bravo
I'm having fun with it.
joe rogan
That's a bad fallback.
You keep saying that.
It's a bad fallback.
Because what we're saying is there are conspiracies.
The problem is when you think everything is conspiracy, you act as a psy-op guy and you fuck people over that want to look at real conspiracies.
Because the real conspiracy is like the Gulf of Tonkin.
eddie bravo
That's what I thought too.
joe rogan
Like the Gulf of Tonkin, like Operation Northwoods, real things that really happened.
When you look at those things and people explore them, they go, oh, I don't think they really killed Kennedy.
Are you sure?
Why don't you look at this?
Look at this stuff.
There's a lot of really crazy evidence.
When you start thinking that the world is flat, the dinosaurs aren't real, all this nutty shit that you believe, and you just jump into it with...
The problem is, it discredits all these other things that you believe that might be real.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Because the other things have some validity to that.
eddie bravo
You just haven't looked into it, that's all.
I used to say the same stuff.
joe rogan
You're talking about the earth being flat!
Thousands of scientists have looked into it!
You think they're all wrong?
That's so insane!
eddie bravo
You haven't looked into it.
joe rogan
I have.
eddie bravo
No, you have.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
How could I not have?
You don't think I have?
I'm watching you go down the rabbit hole.
You don't think I've tried to pay attention to what the fuck these people are talking about?
It doesn't work.
eddie bravo
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Eddie, this website's dedicated to debunking it.
It's dedicated to showing you the science, showing you the math that you can do.
eddie bravo
How come when you check the internet, it's valid, but when I'm on the internet, it's not?
joe rogan
You're not talking about the internet.
You're talking about a guy's YouTube video.
unidentified
No, it's not a guy's.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of guys.
There's a lot of people.
But they're just YouTube videos.
It's huge, no.
joe rogan
The science behind them is not verified by peer-reviewed journals.
The science of the Earth and gravity.
eddie bravo
The government science that's bought and paid for?
Of course.
You start talking about flat Earth on the side.
joe rogan
Eddie, this is so crazy.
You think the Earth is flat?
eddie bravo
I didn't say that.
I said, I don't know if it's flat or round.
When I see a picture of Earth from space, what we're sitting on from space, when I see a real picture, then we'll have the proof.
I'm just saying we don't even have proof that it's real.
joe rogan
No, we're looking at pictures while we're sitting here.
You're not even taking into consideration the fact that this is a monitor.
You're looking at this.
You don't even get the high resolution.
I mean, they must be gigantic files that they get.
You would never be able to see them and their actual resolution on a regular monitor in the first place.
You're talking about a photo of the Earth.
Photo of the Earth from 22,000 miles away and they take one every fucking 10 minutes.
eddie bravo
Looks CGI to me.
brendan schaub
The only way you can convince them, Joe.
joe rogan
It might look CGI to you.
brendan schaub
You'd have to jump in a ship and kill yourself.
eddie bravo
I could be wrong.
No, I could be wrong.
It could be real.
joe rogan
There's too many things you don't believe in.
eddie bravo
It could be real, but they've been faking them so much they look like all those other fake ones.
joe rogan
That's not good enough.
eddie bravo
I've seen so many fake ones that NASA admits that they're CGI composites.
There's so many out there.
So when you see this one, it's like, this is the same one.
joe rogan
Yeah, but fake and CGI composites is different.
You can believe it.
eddie bravo
I don't believe it.
joe rogan
Eddie, please.
When you take one of these photos, these, what are those called when you fucking do that?
unidentified
Panorama.
brendan schaub
Panorama.
joe rogan
When you do that, you know what that is?
That's a composite.
You're taking a bunch of photographs, and they piece them all together.
It makes one enormous photo.
When you see these photos from space of the Earth from a closer satellite, not the NASA one that Jamie just pulled up, which does show a full-size image of the Earth, what you're seeing is they take a photo, they take another photo, and they piece them all together.
There's no seams.
unidentified
Just a composite photo.
eddie bravo
No, no, there's an actual seed This is three photos.
joe rogan
They put them together.
They fit together.
eddie bravo
It colors everything in.
unidentified
Eddie, is this CGI? Question for you.
jamie vernon
Is this CGI because it was made in a computer and it fits the definition of computer-generated image?
eddie bravo
Because that's a composite.
unidentified
I made this.
eddie bravo
I'll show you how I made it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
I'm just saying.
But this could be easily a real picture.
unidentified
But it is a real picture.
eddie bravo
Well, that's not a hard picture.
A picture of Earth from space, that's a hard picture.
jamie vernon
Where I physically was on the ground in New York City to take that with the camera I was using, that building would not fit in my lens.
unidentified
I wasn't far enough away.
eddie bravo
But that's not what they're saying they're doing.
They're saying they take strips.
unidentified
That's what they're saying they do.
eddie bravo
No, no.
They're saying, I'm going to show you a video of the artist who actually did the latest one.
They go, oh, NASA, here's the guy who did the latest picture.
joe rogan
Tell us what to look at.
Let's watch the video.
eddie bravo
Just put NASA artist...
brendan schaub
A CGI picture of Earth, and you're gonna hear him talking.
eddie bravo
And he says, it is Photoshop.
It is.
It is Photoshop, but it has to be Photoshop.
He says that word for word.
It's a NASA video.
unidentified
What does that mean?
I was asking you to clarify that.
I'm trying to tell you.
That's what I literally had to do.
I had to have been farther away.
To get the photo in one photo of that giant building.
But in order to get that distance away...
Did you color it in with CGI? There were buildings in the way.
joe rogan
I put it in Photoshop.
unidentified
Yes.
I put it in Photoshop.
He's talking about...
eddie bravo
He's going through the video going, I got it.
Sometimes I put green shades here.
And I kind of...
I'm not an astronaut.
I've never been to space.
So I have to kind of use my imagination to get it.
joe rogan
Well, are they taking black and white photos?
unidentified
Is that why?
eddie bravo
It's the latest picture that NASA releases of Earth.
Here's the latest one.
unidentified
Hold on.
It didn't look like this that day.
It's a little exaggerated.
The darks aren't that dark in real life.
The brights aren't that bright in real life.
jamie vernon
So yes, I added color to it.
I did some artistry to it.
unidentified
That's bullshit.
That's what that fucking building looks like.
eddie bravo
Okay, now find the CGI NASA artist.
joe rogan
Do you buy into anything?
Do you believe anything?
eddie bravo
I believe shit that I can prove for myself.
I believe the science in a skyscraper.
unidentified
Why?
eddie bravo
Because I see the skyscraper.
It's standing there.
That's truth.
I believe in that science.
joe rogan
How much have you looked into the science of space travel?
How much have you looked into how much work was done to try to put satellites into orbit?
eddie bravo
So you think we went to the moon?
joe rogan
That's not what I asked you.
I said, how much did you look into that?
eddie bravo
Do you think we went to the moon?
joe rogan
Eddie, answer my fucking question.
eddie bravo
How come you don't answer my question?
joe rogan
You talk ridiculous.
Because you talk in circles.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
You're talking in circles.
eddie bravo
I am?
joe rogan
They're ridiculous conversations.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Everything is the government.
The government, the government.
The government's fake.
eddie bravo
Fake pictures.
unidentified
Watch.
joe rogan
I'm just asking you a question.
eddie bravo
Punch up NASA CGI artist picture of Earth.
I don't see that up there.
joe rogan
Eddie, it's so crazy.
unidentified
Which one would you like me to click on?
eddie bravo
Any of them.
That one right there, the second one right there.
unidentified
This one?
eddie bravo
Flat Earth.
unidentified
Flat Earth.
eddie bravo
No, just listen to him talk.
joe rogan
Okay, stinky cash.
brendan schaub
He only has 20,000 views.
joe rogan
Well, it's going to get more now.
unidentified
Hey guys, Jeff here, and today I want to share with you this article that's on NASA.gov.
brendan schaub
This guy seems legit.
joe rogan
Are we allowed to play this?
unidentified
This is the guy who's a scientist.
jamie vernon
Are we listening to him or the guy that made the video?
You said we were going to listen to a scientist.
eddie bravo
Well, it looked like the right video.
I don't know.
But that is the guy.
That is the artist.
That's a picture of the video.
brendan schaub
His name is Robert Simmons.
joe rogan
Talking about how he created the latest picture of Earth for NASA. They're celebrating CGI. This is from the Goddard webpage.
So he's doing a recap of something that's written on the Goddard webpage.
So go to the Goddard webpage.
Find that guy's page.
brendan schaub
Robert Simmons Photoshop.
There it was.
joe rogan
And we'll see what he's actually saying.
Is that it?
brendan schaub
Okay, good.
That guy looks so skeptical in his picture.
joe rogan
What do you think is the most interesting of your role here at Goddard?
How do you help support Goddard's mission?
My role is to make imagery from Earth sciences data.
I turn data into pictures.
I look for new interesting events that NASA satellites have seen or that are hidden in the latest data to find anything interesting that shows off NASA's unique capabilities.
Finding things is the fun part.
I rely on engineers and scientists to produce the data.
Their reliable real-time stream of 1.7 terabytes a day, holy shit, is incredible.
The same as producing 3,000 CDs a day, we know where to look for the interesting stuff because each instrument provides a very specialized type of information.
So if I'm looking for something specific, I know where to look.
For example, recently there was a volcanic eruption in the Red Sea.
The only reliable imagery of this was from NASA satellites.
We basically confirmed the existence of a new island.
Okay, so let's get to some Photoshop shit.
eddie bravo
You've got to find the one where he's talking.
joe rogan
Okay, but this guy's talking about science here.
Like, some of the science has to be real, right, Eddie?
Like, there has to be some satellites, like DirecTV.
DirecTV's not fake, right?
eddie bravo
Um, I don't know.
I don't know, but you could do all that with landline stuff.
You don't need to go bounce anything from space.
You could do all that with landline.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't you?
You could just put it in space and it just broadcasts and shoot it up there and shoot it back.
Why would you lie about that?
I mean, there's a ton of fucking space junk.
eddie bravo
Satellite's easy.
Satellite's easy.
Every time they...
You know who pays for satellites?
You know who pays for satellites?
The taxpayer.
They get bills.
We need a new telecommunications satellite.
We've got to throw it up there.
We need $35 million.
And they go, yeah, okay, we're going to sign it.
They get the money.
It's a tax scam.
joe rogan
You don't think satellites are real?
eddie bravo
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Well, what's happening?
What are those things up there that you can watch from the ground?
unidentified
Have you ever seen the space station fly overhead?
joe rogan
You can see it.
unidentified
They can time it.
jamie vernon
I have pictures of it.
unidentified
They timed it.
They told me it was going to be overhead.
I took a picture of it.
eddie bravo
I didn't know it was in a high-altitude plane.
What's the difference?
joe rogan
Why would they do that?
Why would they lie?
Why would they pretend it's a space station and instead put a high altitude plane up there?
eddie bravo
How high do airplanes go?
30,000 feet, right?
joe rogan
No, they can go higher.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
Commercial airplanes, on average, go about 30,000.
joe rogan
Somewhere in the 30s, yeah.
eddie bravo
30,000, 35,000.
unidentified
Right.
eddie bravo
When you're on the ground, you go...
You can barely see them.
When they're at 30,000 feet, you can barely.
When you're at 30,000 feet and you look down, you wouldn't be able to see a goddamn bus or a plane.
Now, those satellites are supposed to be like 100 miles up.
Think about that.
How are you going to see them?
joe rogan
Because they're in space.
And they're a light.
They're a very small pinprick of light that moves across the sky.
You can see them with optics.
eddie bravo
Okay, I'm noticing.
joe rogan
Okay, but you really haven't looked.
And you definitely haven't looked with optics.
If you look with like a big spotting scope, these people get these telescopes and they look up and they know exactly where it's going to be.
You can actually program it into the telescope.
There's things that you can download where you can find the coordinates of each individual planet.
The way these really super powerful telescopes use that amateur astronomers like to use, you punch in the key numbers and it'll move specifically to a spot in the sky Where you can tune into the moon or tune into Saturn or into very specific areas of the cosmos that change all the time.
Because of the fact that the Earth is spinning, we're catching all sorts of different shit all sorts of different times, especially no matter where you are.
If you're on the equator, you're looking at a totally different image, you know, at one moment in the sky than you are the next moment.
So it can tell you exactly where the space station's going to be, where the moon's going to be, where Mars is going to be, and they punch these coordinates into these little computers and they all move to this thing.
eddie bravo
You believe the Mars Rover's real?
joe rogan
Man, Eddie, I don't think I can do this anymore.
Because it's just like, I don't see why.
First of all, I don't see where the money is.
Hold on a second.
I don't see where the money is to have all these hoaxes.
brendan schaub
You don't see the tax scam with the rovers?
eddie bravo
NASA got $19 billion.
Trump gave them $19 billion.
joe rogan
Isn't it possible that that's so they can actually make a rover?
brendan schaub
Tell me what the space shuttle has done for humanity.
eddie bravo
Tell me all that money that was wasted on space shuttle and then they just trashed it.
They went up I don't know how many times and then they just trashed it.
Tell me how those billions of dollars has helped humanity.
Tell me.
joe rogan
Well, I think scientific innovation is very important to us because in our minds we constantly want newer, better, more innovative technology.
Just a part of being a person in the 21st century.
eddie bravo
What did we learn though?
joe rogan
Everybody wants a new computer.
Everybody wants new things.
And a lot of this new stuff comes from NASA technology.
It comes from all the science and innovation that goes to be a part of me.
There's a list right there, Eddie.
unidentified
There's a shitload, man.
joe rogan
But why do you say this when you don't look into it?
eddie bravo
You don't look.
Highway safety.
joe rogan
Improved radial tires.
eddie bravo
How come we couldn't do that down here?
How come we couldn't do that down here?
joe rogan
They can, Eddie, but the massive requirements...
That you have on the gear when you're talking about going through fucking space.
The insane stress of re-entry.
They figured out all kinds of crazy shit.
The speed in which you land.
They figured out a bunch of crazy shit.
Enriched baby food.
I mean, portable cordless vacuums.
Freeze-drying technology.
All this comes from space.
There's a shitload of things that they figured out.
Harnessing solar energy.
There's a lot of innovation that comes from the development of either the space station or the shuttles or a bunch of different things that they've invented.
And they continue to innovate these things.
These new satellites they're shooting out into space are way better than the Hubble.
They keep doing more and more, better and better, and it's this constant rush to see who can get to the furthest Who
eddie bravo
said that was fake?
joe rogan
Well, any of it.
Any of it.
Any space travel.
eddie bravo
The space shuttle's going up.
It's a high-altitude plane.
joe rogan
Did you know the space shuttle goes up and they work on fucking satellites?
eddie bravo
Do you know they dock with a space station?
I need to see a video of that.
Show me a video of that.
unidentified
That's what spacewalks are usually about.
brendan schaub
Jamie hit it.
joe rogan
The problem is there's a lot of these things that you just automatically...
eddie bravo
Dude, they fake six moon missions, dude.
joe rogan
Of course I don't trust shit coming from NASA. Even if that was true, those are people in 1969. They're not the same humans.
Those people, they're not the same human beings.
That's just like saying that the people who made the movies in 1969 are the same people that made Fast and Furious 8. It's the people that make the movies.
They're not the same people.
They're totally different humans.
It's like saying the stand-up comedians from 1969 were the same as the one.
eddie bravo
But that was NASA in 1969. They faked six moon missions.
How am I supposed to believe anything from that?
joe rogan
Those are not the same people.
unidentified
How?
joe rogan
Even if that was true, those are not the same people and Richard Nixon isn't alive anymore.
brendan schaub
So you just write them All off though, Eddie?
Just off that one exception?
eddie bravo
You gotta prove it to me.
I don't need to believe it.
brendan schaub
I don't believe it, but if it's true, I don't give a shit.
eddie bravo
Okay, it's true?
Oh, that's true?
brendan schaub
Okay, but you gotta prove it to me?
eddie bravo
Otherwise...
joe rogan
The problem isn't that.
eddie bravo
I don't care.
joe rogan
There's no proving it.
The problem is, there's no proving it, and you want to always assume that it's fake.
You don't have this empty, prove it to me.
I'm not assuming either way.
You're assuming it's fake every time.
eddie bravo
They faked six moon missions, Joe.
joe rogan
But that doesn't matter.
These are not the same people.
eddie bravo
We're living in a different time.
Because they're different people, they're not going to at all understand that logic.
joe rogan
The logic is just because someone faked something one point in time before you were alive doesn't mean that those same human beings have managed to download their brains into everybody that ever did that job for the rest of time.
Because they're not the same humans.
So the people that are scientists that are today, the generations later, whether it's NASA or these Japanese scientists or the Russians or the Chinese, whoever the fuck is putting satellites and rockets into space, they're not the same people from 1969. You can't look at them as one blanket organization.
eddie bravo
I can't blame NASA, 1969, NASA with Wernher von Braun at Nazi.
I can't blame today's NASA for all the lies, is that what you're saying, from the early 70s?
joe rogan
I'm saying, do you believe that the space shuttles were real?
eddie bravo
No, I do believe the space shuttles were real.
joe rogan
Why just that?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
unidentified
Why just that?
eddie bravo
Because I saw plenty of video of them, like landing and shit, and then they take off.
joe rogan
So do you think they just made the space shuttle and that's it and everything else is bullshit?
eddie bravo
No, they made the Saturn V rockets and they launched them.
joe rogan
Okay, so do you think that people went into orbit?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
I don't know how high people are going.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
unidentified
You don't know.
eddie bravo
I know they're going high, but I don't know how high.
joe rogan
So why would you assume that any of it is fake?
eddie bravo
They fake six moon missions.
joe rogan
Okay, you keep saying that.
eddie bravo
No, but that's why.
joe rogan
Yeah, but we're not talking about the same people, Eddie.
eddie bravo
But it doesn't matter.
It's the same organization.
joe rogan
The problem is you've turned them into they.
unidentified
As soon as you say they, you've locked them into a group.
eddie bravo
Let me ask you, Brendan.
Do you see how I can't trust NASA? Because even though it was different people in 1969 to 1973...
Even though the NASA of today aren't the ones that faked six moon missions and stole billions of dollars from American taxpayers.
Just because the guys from today...
Somehow they got weeded out and then NASA... I don't know that they got weeded out and then NASA became this honest agency of the government.
I don't know that.
I'm going to assume...
I'm going to assume no.
I think it's still part of the same ship.
That's what I'm going to assume.
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
brendan schaub
Let's say those six missions were all bullshit and it was fake.
You're going off the exception, not the general rule.
So it's like me coming into your academy and some guy's a dick.
I'm like, all those 10th planet guys are dicks.
Like, you're just lumping all of them in the same fucking category.
eddie bravo
That was big shit, though.
It wasn't like side project NASA employees.
joe rogan
Do you hear what he's saying, though?
eddie bravo
Do you understand what he's saying?
No, I understand.
He's saying the same thing you said.
He's saying that just because...
Dude, the moon landings were so gigantic and so global and the greatest achievement of mankind and they don't even have the records anymore.
Joe, you know what I'm talking about.
We were talking about this earlier, man.
You were talking about this earlier, you know all that moon...
joe rogan
Telemetry data is missing.
eddie bravo
Yeah, so you know what the head of NASA on video says, he says, yeah, we don't have it, it's missing, or maybe it's stolen, but even if we did, the head of NASA, even if we did have the tapes, we don't have the machines to play them anymore, so it really doesn't matter.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
The dumbest retard detective on the planet would be suspicious.
brendan schaub
Of that mission, but you can't just lump all...
Oh, it's all bullshit then.
joe rogan
Everything's fake.
You want to see something, Brendan, that'll make you think?
This is the most suspicious thing.
One of the weirdest things about the moon landing is the post-flight press conference.
Have you ever seen it?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
It's really weird.
It's real weird.
That would make sense if they did fake it.
Conspiracy hippo.
brendan schaub
Skeptical hippo eyes.
joe rogan
What the fuck is going on here?
eddie bravo
So you guys are open to the fact that maybe they faked it because now you're open to the fact that maybe they faked it.
brendan schaub
Maybe they did fake that, but you can't just lump something.
And I'm not saying they did do that.
eddie bravo
That's the greatest achievement of mankind.
At the time, there's a reason to do it.
We got new people now.
unidentified
Come on, man.
eddie bravo
That's hilarious, guys.
How can you see how I can't trust shit from NASA? So I should trust them because maybe all those bad people have died and they're old.
And the new NASA, they're the good NASA. They can't all be bad.
joe rogan
How do we know they're bad?
What's better, believe in that or believe in a guy on YouTube that says the world's flat and dinosaurs aren't real?
What's better?
brendan schaub
He lives out his mom's basement.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of people saying it, man.
joe rogan
Okay, all those guys.
There's a lot of people in mental institutions.
There's a lot of people in jail.
There's a lot of people that are child molesters.
There's a lot of people.
brendan schaub
A lot of racist people.
joe rogan
If you gave those people videos, if you gave every racist person a video camera and made them a YouTube video, you'd be like, oh, YouTube is all filled with racists.
eddie bravo
Have you watched History of Flat Earth by Eric Dubé?
Have you seen that?
brendan schaub
How long is it?
I don't have an hour for that.
eddie bravo
You haven't looked into it.
joe rogan
You're asking for a job.
eddie bravo
What is their side?
unidentified
What is Eric Dubé's side?
brendan schaub
Fourth grade, my teacher.
eddie bravo
Hey, you know what?
You don't care and that's fine.
I'm not going to be mad at you for not caring.
unidentified
Of course not.
eddie bravo
Don't be mad at me.
Why are you getting mad?
joe rogan
Because you don't look into what scientists say.
You just automatically dismiss them all as corrupt, but you look into what you two people said.
brendan schaub
Joe, is this fair to say the reason why you care so much about Eddie believing this shit and you know Eddie going, I'm crazy, is because he influences a lot of people.
Look for the truth.
eddie bravo
Find out for yourself.
Look for the truth.
Look into it like you're investigating it.
Just look into both sides.
There's a reason why it's becoming huge.
There's a reason.
joe rogan
Yeah, because people don't really go to school.
They don't learn astrophysics.
They don't study all these things.
It's hard to learn.
The entry barrier is fucking huge.
If you want to study physics, you want to figure out, I can barely pay attention to it.
I listen to these books on tape, and I have to go back over them three, four times just to understand a paragraph, try to figure out exactly what the fuck they're quantifying.
They're talking about really intense shit that thousands of people have been working on in conjunction.
They all feed off of each other's innovation.
There's so many people working on these things, Eddie.
The idea that they're all in on some sort of a giant global lie is insane.
eddie bravo
Yeah, yeah.
That's what everyone thinks.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
There's no women here.
There's no women.
eddie bravo
History of Flat Earth.
Look into it.
joe rogan
No.
Definitely not.
brendan schaub
I can't, sir.
Look into it.
unidentified
Why, Eddie?
eddie bravo
Look into it.
You watch Game of Thrones.
That's not real.
brendan schaub
I don't watch Game of Thrones.
eddie bravo
You watch Game of Thrones.
You don't watch Game of Thrones?
brendan schaub
No, there's dragons in it.
eddie bravo
What do you watch?
Breaking Bad?
brendan schaub
I don't watch Breaking Bad.
eddie bravo
Better Call Saul?
brendan schaub
Nope.
eddie bravo
What do you watch?
unidentified
I watch real shit like First 48. Is that a show?
joe rogan
But if you watch his Game of Thrones, he knows it's fake.
eddie bravo
Approach it like it's fake.
It's entertaining.
Approach it like it's fake.
joe rogan
But you don't.
eddie bravo
I'm just having fun.
joe rogan
What do you think?
Is the earth flat around?
eddie bravo
I don't know if it's flat or round until we see a picture from space that isn't fake.
brendan schaub
You're saying this bitch could be square.
eddie bravo
I don't know what it is.
It could be round.
It could be way bigger.
joe rogan
iPhone HD camera.
eddie bravo
With fish-eyed lens.
You guys are fooled by the fish-eyed lens.
Come on, man.
There's plenty of pictures without the fish-eyed lens that you could find.
This fish-eyed lens, you guys are getting fooled by some basic-ass kindergarten fish-eyed lens.
joe rogan
Do you understand perspective?
Do you know that at that high, if you didn't have a fisheye lens, you're looking at this tiny fraction of the surface.
eddie bravo
Take the fisheye lens off.
joe rogan
Eddie, they do.
unidentified
This is from 1946. How do you know that's real?
Could be fake.
eddie bravo
Because it's a picture?
unidentified
I read it on the internet, that's why I know it's real.
eddie bravo
I don't know, how do you know it's real?
brendan schaub
If you could show any...
unidentified
I could do a selfie from space like this and...
That's real?
eddie bravo
Okay, that's real too.
joe rogan
Eddie, would you be open to talking to an actual...
eddie bravo
I don't care if you believe that's real, I don't care.
joe rogan
Would you be into talking to an actual astrophysicist?
eddie bravo
Yes, I would love to.
joe rogan
Like, what would you do if Neil deGrasse Tyson was here?
eddie bravo
I would have questions for him.
joe rogan
Would you keep these same arguments?
eddie bravo
I would have some questions.
joe rogan
But would you listen to him?
Like, if he told you some shit that actually made sense?
Or would you just think he's a part of getting paid off by the Round Earth Society?
eddie bravo
I think he's, you know, there's people that they push to be their spokespeople.
joe rogan
And there's really brilliant people that are good at talking and they're educators like him.
And then they get on television and people love it.
And so he comes back and then he does a hit show called Cosmos that reenacts the Carl Sagan show.
And everybody loves it.
And more people understand science now than ever before.
brendan schaub
Because he breaks it down.
joe rogan
It's hard, Eddie.
You know, it's hard because you didn't go to school for this.
unidentified
Don't be mad.
joe rogan
I'm not mad.
But look, I love you, man.
I love you.
You know I love you.
eddie bravo
I'm just trying to...
I want to be able to talk about Flat Earth and have fun.
joe rogan
Okay, but it's not fun for me because I think there's some 16-year-old kids out there that are listening to this and they think you make sense.
And the problem is...
eddie bravo
What's wrong with that?
Who cares about that?
joe rogan
Because those poor kids...
eddie bravo
What's happening to me?
What's happening to me?
Am I... My life is going to shit?
joe rogan
Wasting time.
eddie bravo
No, it's heavy.
joe rogan
I think it's wasting time.
eddie bravo
Dude, you fucking...
Come on.
joe rogan
Come on, Eddie.
eddie bravo
You do a lot of shit that you would consider a waste of time if you didn't do it.
unidentified
Some people would.
eddie bravo
If someone was all into pool and he was obsessed with pool, you would say, you're wasting your time.
What are you getting out of that?
joe rogan
Right, but when I hit those balls, I know they're real.
They're real.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
I hit those balls, they go into the hole.
It takes skill and concentration, and it gives me something to occupy my mind.
It's a game.
It's a mind game.
And it's a body game.
When you're watching a fake video the guy made about...
eddie bravo
You think it's fake.
joe rogan
Nuclear bombs not being real.
eddie bravo
You think it's fake.
joe rogan
Okay.
eddie bravo
That's what you think.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
I just feel like all the people that study it at all the universities have come to a conclusion.
And then one guy makes a YouTube video, or 20 guys.
There's a bunch of guys, dude.
Let's say there's a thousand.
eddie bravo
Santos, Bonacci, he's good too.
joe rogan
But why would you listen to them versus all the people?
brendan schaub
What credibility do they have?
joe rogan
For generations after generations of studying the science behind it, repeatable science.
unidentified
You gotta listen to it.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of shit.
joe rogan
You gotta listen to it.
Right, but you just told us about this one test, and you parroted it out as some sort of a theory that we should look up, and when we did, it turns out it didn't even work.
It wasn't repeatable.
eddie bravo
Okay, whatever.
joe rogan
Eddie, I love you, but I don't like the way you approach these things sometimes because I think it confuses the fuck out of people like I was when I was young.
I was super gullible.
I believed all kinds of stupid shit and I wasted a ton of time.
eddie bravo
Like what?
brendan schaub
Especially with successful guys saying certain stuff.
joe rogan
Goddamn UFO people, man.
All those UFO stories I bought and all that shit.
unidentified
Eddie, have you ever heard of the law of perspective?
eddie bravo
Yes, I know exactly.
unidentified
Do you know that's not real?
That's not a law?
What about it?
They're giving the definition of what perspective is.
eddie bravo
You know what the law of perspective is?
unidentified
I know what it is.
I'm trying to tell you though real quick.
There are laws of conservation of energy and such in physics.
There are actual laws that can be translated without even speaking language.
It's math.
The law of perspective is not one of those.
eddie bravo
What is it?
Tell me.
unidentified
It's just a definition of perspective.
I'm asking you what the law of perspective is.
I know what it is.
eddie bravo
What is it?
So you're saying there's no law of perspective?
unidentified
I'm saying it's not a law.
eddie bravo
What is it then?
unidentified
It's a definition of the word perspective.
eddie bravo
Yes.
unidentified
That's not a law.
eddie bravo
Well, the laws of perspective are the horizon.
unidentified
One of the laws is the horizon will always rise to high level.
eddie bravo
To eye level.
That's not a law.
It always happens.
unidentified
It's not a law.
eddie bravo
But it always happens.
It's a law if it happens.
unidentified
That's not a law.
This is where you don't understand part of the laws of science.
That's not a law.
That's a definition.
eddie bravo
Okay.
What is the definition?
unidentified
Definition of a noun.
It's a person, place, thing, or idea.
That's not a law.
eddie bravo
Okay.
unidentified
That's just a definition.
eddie bravo
All right.
You know what else is?
I used to call this double lotus for years and years and years.
And it's not double lotus.
It's full lotus.
unidentified
It's not a law though, right?
eddie bravo
But it's not double Otis either.
unidentified
It's not a law though.
eddie bravo
It's not double Otis either.
joe rogan
That's just my point.
You're talking about a different word for the same move.
eddie bravo
For the same move, yeah.
joe rogan
What he's saying is...
eddie bravo
The rules of perspective.
Is that better?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
The rules of perspective.
unidentified
It's not better because...
eddie bravo
Okay, the definition of perspective.
unidentified
Hold on.
eddie bravo
It's the same thing.
Whatever you call it.
God, Allah, whatever you want.
jamie vernon
Well, when you look up this stuff online, I try to type in the law of perspective, because I want to see what you and Eric Dubé believe that that is.
The only thing I ever find with the law of perspective is the words flat earth with it.
unidentified
Or maybe there's actually, the Urban Dictionary has a...
Has a definition for the laws of perspective.
eddie bravo
What does it matter if it's law of perspective or definition?
It matters because it's science.
But if the horizon always rises to a lie level, you can consider that...
What would you call it, then?
unidentified
You don't believe in gravity, though, either.
eddie bravo
We'll call it a thing of perspective.
unidentified
How about that?
You don't believe in gravity, either.
That falls at a constant of 9.82 meters per second.
That's the law of gravity.
eddie bravo
Gravity's a theory.
unidentified
No, no, no.
You guys have a theory of what gravity is.
Density.
That's another scientific word.
You guys said that if it's more dense, it falls, but why does it fall?
Why would it fall lower if it's denser?
eddie bravo
Because it's heavier than...
unidentified
Why is it heavier?
Do you know what...
eddie bravo
Because it's denser than the oxygen, so it falls.
But helium, how come a helium?
unidentified
Because it's gas.
Helium is a gas.
We're only heavy...
eddie bravo
It's lighter than the oxygen.
That's why I realized it's lighter.
It's lighter.
It's less dense.
unidentified
I'll explain.
jamie vernon
It's lighter because we're in the atmosphere of Earth.
eddie bravo
Isn't it less dense, though?
unidentified
If we were in space, there is no atmosphere.
That's why everything floats.
Gases and us.
We're dense, too, but we would float in space just like gas.
eddie bravo
If you do float in space.
unidentified
If we got into space, you're correct.
If we got out there.
eddie bravo
If you believe that.
unidentified
Can we not go to space?
eddie bravo
I don't know how far we can go up.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
But Eddie, you know the space station.
unidentified
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
You said the space shuttle went into orbit.
eddie bravo
I don't know how far it went up.
I don't know where it went.
I know it took off, saw that, and then I see it landing.
You see that.
joe rogan
I don't know where it went.
You know it went way higher than a plane, right?
eddie bravo
For sure.
unidentified
Are you not confused on what laws and stuff science are, though?
Do you not see that?
eddie bravo
Okay, we'll call it definition of...
unidentified
What do we call it?
eddie bravo
What do we call it?
We'll call it whatever you want.
unidentified
In science, we call things laws.
We don't call them definitions.
In science, there are laws.
So what is that?
eddie bravo
The horizon always rises to eye level.
What is that called?
unidentified
In most cases it's math, the law.
So that math then, that formulaic equation, can go to any country and work.
jamie vernon
I don't need to speak English to the guy in Germany to explain to him what I'm trying to get out of it.
He can test it with the same things, the same variables, and get the same thing out of it.
unidentified
That's why all these things are laws, not definitions.
eddie bravo
Thank you for clearing that up for me.
unidentified
Does that work?
Do you accept that or no?
eddie bravo
I totally accept it.
joe rogan
The problem is people use this verbose terminology because it makes them appear smarter than they really are.
eddie bravo
Trying to get a point across.
joe rogan
No, Eddie.
They're trying to say it in a fancier way because they really didn't go to school for this shit.
So they say a bunch of shit that's not real, like the law of perspective, and it's not a law, and it belies the real problem.
They don't have an education in this stuff, and they're just talking out of their ass.
It's disrespectful to the fucking generations of people that have been studying that their whole lives, that one guy can figure out all these different things, that dinosaurs aren't real, nuclear bombs aren't real, the earth is flat.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
Satellites aren't real.
It's ridiculous.
It's one guy.
You must be the smartest person in the world.
It's a lot of guys.
That one guy that you're pals with.
You love that stuff.
That guy's got videos on dinosaurs, on the fucking earth being flat.
He figured it all out.
eddie bravo
He's my friend now.
I had him on my podcast.
unidentified
I should ask him how much money he makes off the flat Earth.
I'd be interested to know that.
jamie vernon
He's writing a lot of books off and a lot of YouTube videos.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
Isn't everybody making money?
I don't know.
Isn't NASA making billions?
Well, he's not NASA. He's a guy with a YouTube account.
About the moon missions.
I don't believe ship coming from them.
That's it, but that's the root of it all.
We keep going back to that.
So don't be mad.
joe rogan
That's why I don't believe you should understand that.
unidentified
That's not the root of it all.
joe rogan
That's one event.
eddie bravo
Oh, but they're different now.
joe rogan
Those guys are dead.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
So because of that, the most preposterous idea available that every photo of the Earth is fake.
And there's no photos.
eddie bravo
NASA tells you that.
joe rogan
NASA tells you that.
There's no photos.
eddie bravo
They make videos of the composite.
They have special videos.
unidentified
They're telling you.
joe rogan
You don't find a problem that there's no photos of the Earth being flat?
Not one?
eddie bravo
There's no photos of the Earth being round either.
joe rogan
There's plenty.
eddie bravo
There's not even any fake photos.
NASA will tell you they have a CGI artist.
How do we skip over that?
joe rogan
I think we can't get anywhere with this.
eddie bravo
NASA can't even get a picture.
That doesn't mean anything.
joe rogan
That CGI artist was never proved.
eddie bravo
It always goes back to that for me.
joe rogan
Jamie, you didn't see anything in there about the CGI, that article.
jamie vernon
He just said he puts together data.
joe rogan
He puts together data because it has to be interpreted because you're talking about 1.7 terabytes.
unidentified
You gotta play the video.
eddie bravo
Play the video of him talking.
unidentified
The video you told me to play wasn't him talking.
eddie bravo
That was the wrong one, obviously.
joe rogan
Is it terabytes or terabytes?
eddie bravo
There's a bunch where he's talking.
joe rogan
Terabytes like a thousand gigabytes.
eddie bravo
He says it word for word.
He goes, well, it is photoshopped.
It is photoshopped.
It has to be.
unidentified
It's...
eddie bravo
That's exactly what he says.
brendan schaub
It has to be.
joe rogan
He said in Photoshop.
He didn't say it in that article.
eddie bravo
But he did say it coming out of his mouth.
joe rogan
Okay, but when you're talking, Photoshop doesn't mean that they're distorting the image.
It also can mean that they're connecting a bunch of different images to make a composite.
eddie bravo
But when you watch him talking about how he put together the official picture of Earth from space, he's talking about cartoon animation type shit.
He's talking about his own imaginations.
joe rogan
Well, maybe because he's talking about this insane amount of data, 1.7 terabytes, maybe we don't understand how the fuck that gets interpreted into an image in the first place.
I don't even know if it's possible to do it in, you know, like, to have an in-perspective, like, you're looking at, like, a 12-inch screen or a 24-inch screen, whatever the fuck your monitor would be, and you're going to take this 1.7 terabyte image and shrink it down so it fits in there?
I don't understand that.
brendan schaub
You're going to mess with some shit.
joe rogan
I don't understand that.
eddie bravo
All I see is the finished product is an admitted CGI composite.
It's admitted.
It's not even...
But all of a sudden, the Japanese got real ones.
The Japanese got real ones, but NASA can't figure it out?
unidentified
Oh, come on.
joe rogan
Eddie, NASA does have one.
That's what the problem is.
eddie bravo
They don't.
joe rogan
They keep saying they don't.
eddie bravo
From 1972. They're saying the only real one they have is from 1972. The one I just pulled up is up right now.
jamie vernon
There's pictures from today, that Discover one.
unidentified
You said that you didn't...
joe rogan
Go ahead, throw some pictures up.
unidentified
I deleted it.
I'll get it right back.
Okay.
eddie bravo
You guys can believe that.
That's way cool.
But why disbelieve?
Because they lied six times.
joe rogan
You believe in the space shuttle, but you don't believe in anything else.
That's where it ends.
eddie bravo
No, I believe in the space shuttle goes up and flies around.
DirecTV.
I don't know what it does.
joe rogan
Dinosaurs.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
Here it goes.
eddie bravo
That looks fake as fuck.
unidentified
April 16th, 2017. Anything you guys toss up is insane.
joe rogan
It looks fake.
eddie bravo
I'm being honest.
They fake them all the time.
I see the fake ones off.
unidentified
Do you have evidence that you would accept as real?
eddie bravo
It looks just like the ones that were admitted that were fake.
Let's say that.
I don't know if it's fake, but they look exactly like the ones that were admitted fakes.
unidentified
Will you accept anything?
brendan schaub
So they're all fake.
eddie bravo
If they were real, if they lived as real.
unidentified
Can I send you to space?
Would you need a videographer with you to shoot the video to?
eddie bravo
I just want to see something that's real, man.
joe rogan
Elon Musk sent his ass up there.
eddie bravo
I've seen a bunch of fake ones and then you show me that one and I go, that looks like all the CGI ones I see.
I don't believe it.
joe rogan
Let's try to stick this landing.
God damn, this is a motherfucker of a podcast.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
I worry about you, Eddie.
I really do.
eddie bravo
You don't need to, man.
I'm fucking better than ever, dude.
You have no idea.
joe rogan
I know you're doing great, but I worry about you going down these rabbit holes of thought.
eddie bravo
What's the big deal?
Who cares if the earth is round or flat?
It's entertaining to me.
joe rogan
I understand.
eddie bravo
That's all.
What's the big deal?
I think you're very influential.
Yeah, if kids start looking into flat earth, good.
Start questioning shit.
If you look into it and you have proof that it is round, instead of going, oh, some scientist figured it out.
Somebody figured it out.
Somebody figured it out.
But you figure it out.
You try to figure You know the one thing that all we know that we don't need scientists to figure out is we know a couple things.
A compass.
A compass points to north.
It doesn't need a battery.
Do you know why?
No, no, I know.
Let me explain.
This is all we know.
This is all we know.
It's pointing to the north.
It's a magnetic force in the north.
That's all.
We know that for sure.
I don't need a scientist to confirm that.
I know that there's a force in the north, some kind of magnetic force.
What else do you What else don't I need a government scientist confirmation from?
The North Star.
It's right over the North.
Let me finish.
Let me just finish.
Let me just finish.
The North Pole, the North Star, Polaris, is directly, coincidentally, over the North Pole, where all the compasses are pointing.
All the compasses are pointing to the North Pole.
There's this magnetic force in the North Pole, and coincidentally, the Polaris...
That's not where the North Star is, Eddie.
No, I'm just saying, the Polaris is directly over the North Pole.
jamie vernon
There's been multiple North Stars.
eddie bravo
Is Polaris directly above the North Pole?
jamie vernon
Do you know that there's been more than one North Star over the history of the Earth?
eddie bravo
Where'd you get that information from?
unidentified
From the internet.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
So you don't believe that, Eddie?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
I mean, is Polaris the North Star?
joe rogan
Let me read this, please.
Let me read this, please, because it'll explain.
Right now, Earth's rotation axis happens to be pointing almost exactly at Polaris, but in the year 3000 BC, the North Star was a star called Thuban, also known as Alpha Draconis.
In about 13,000 years from now, the procession of the rotation axis will mean that the bright star Vega will be the North Star.
That's according to NASA. That's according to every scientist that studies it, Eddie.
eddie bravo
How do you know that?
joe rogan
Because that's why it's still up.
eddie bravo
How do you know that?
You just said some stuff you don't know.
joe rogan
You said I don't know?
Listen, there's no dispute about this.
I bet Jamie could pull up a hundred different fucking things that'll show you the same thing.
eddie bravo
On the internet.
joe rogan
But it's not just on the internet, Eddie.
eddie bravo
It's okay if you get information on the internet, but it's not okay if I get information.
It's an information war.
That's what it is.
If you get your information, there's information on both sides.
unidentified
It's okay.
eddie bravo
The internet's okay when you guys look at it, but not when I look at it.
joe rogan
North Star changes over time.
University of, what is that, Michigan?
eddie bravo
It's only okay if you guys look at it.
Does that make sense?
That doesn't make any sense.
That's not science to me.
joe rogan
Why does that not make sense?
eddie bravo
No, I said, it doesn't make sense that the internet only works for you and not for me.
joe rogan
No, it works when you keep looking at it over and over and over again from all these multiple sources.
Wouldn't you just assume that all these universities...
eddie bravo
You said over and over and over and over, and then you didn't...
joe rogan
Chetty, why are you playing games?
This is like you're playing tic-tac-toe.
You're not looking at the truth.
You're playing like a little jujitsu game here.
eddie bravo
Hey, if you want to believe NASA after, you know they fake six...
This isn't NASA. It's all government science.
It's all government science.
joe rogan
You tell me then, why does that compass point towards the north?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
We know there's a magnetic force in the North Pole, right?
brendan schaub
And we know that Polaris is right over the North Pole and the constellations rotate around Polaris.
Polaris is a fixed star and the constellations rotate around that and it's right over the North Pole.
joe rogan
How much time have you spent going over astronomy?
How much time have you actually spent going over astronomy?
unidentified
Is that not true?
eddie bravo
Is that not true?
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
Explain.
unidentified
What did I say wrong?
jamie vernon
You and Eric DeBay repeat that over and over again like the sky doesn't change at night.
eddie bravo
No, no.
What I said, I never said that.
unidentified
You said the stars don't move.
eddie bravo
Does the Polaris star stay ahead over the North Pole?
Yes or no?
And do the constellations rotate around Polaris?
No?
unidentified
The constellations don't rotate, no.
eddie bravo
No, they spin around.
When you look at time-lapse photography of Polaris, you could watch time-lapse.
All the constellations go on.
Polaris is the fixed star.
That's why you could find your way around and just find the North Star.
It doesn't move.
Explain that.
joe rogan
And if the Earth is spinning like we know it is, what's directly above the Earth would stay the same because the Earth is spinning faster than space is.
Earth is spinning a thousand miles an hour in a circle.
Even though the cosmos is spinning, the cosmos changes as well.
There's a lot of things that change.
And the sky looks different all the time.
eddie bravo
Polaris doesn't change.
It stays right over the North Pole.
joe rogan
But if you were spinning, and you're talking about a small window of time, when they're taking these time-lapse photographs, they're taking them over a few hours.
unidentified
Yes, but...
joe rogan
Do you understand that?
That if you're looking up over a few hours, and you have one light that's directly overhead, and the other ones are circulant, The one light that's directly overhead over a few hours is not going to move enough to register in the photograph.
But the ones on the sides are.
When you're looking at a time lapse, you're looking at a time lapse over a few hours.
If you were looking at a time lapse over months or years, you would see that thing spinning too.
eddie bravo
Polaris would still be in the same spot.
joe rogan
No, you'd have the precession of the equinoxes.
It changes the rotation of the Earth.
The Earth wobbles on its axis.
They've been tracking that forever.
eddie bravo
You can watch Time Elapsed Photography on YouTube.
joe rogan
Are you not listening to me?
Time Elapsed Photography is over a few hours, Eddie.
eddie bravo
Over a few hours, you can see constellations circling around Polaris.
That's one motion, right?
You capture one motion in that Time Elapsed Photography.
But science is telling us that there's four motions going on.
joe rogan
There are.
They're just much slower.
You're talking about something that you're looking at that's very quick over a very short amount of time.
eddie bravo
But year after year, decade after decade, Polaris is in the same spot.
You gotta find one of Polaris.
unidentified
Why?
When I look for the specific one that you're looking for.
eddie bravo
Find Polaris.
And then find the time-lapse.
Because that's the only one that isn't moving and everything's going around it.
joe rogan
Eddie, Eddie, what are you looking at right there?
When you see that, that time-lapse photo of space.
eddie bravo
I see shit spinning.
joe rogan
Right.
The Earth in the sky is up there.
eddie bravo
Is the sky spinning or is the Earth spinning?
joe rogan
What do you think?
eddie bravo
I think the sky's spinning.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Why would people be lying about that?
eddie bravo
Why would they lie about that?
Look, there's Polaris.
joe rogan
Right, you know why?
Because it's in the center, Eddie.
eddie bravo
Yeah, exactly.
It's always there.
unidentified
It's like a 30 second picture.
joe rogan
No, you're talking about something that happens very quickly.
eddie bravo
But all those other constellations are moving really quick.
joe rogan
Eddie, it's the one that's directly overhead.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
If you have a ball and you spin it on your finger like Michael Jordan, the outside equator of the ball is gonna spin like fucking crazy in this big, long, wide loop.
But the tip of the ball is gonna spin in a very short, tight circle.
Right?
When you see the Harlem Globetrotters...
unidentified
You can test it yourself, Eddie.
If you just point a camera in the same spot out of your window for like three months straight, take a photo, maybe even four or five.
eddie bravo
I'm talking about Polaris.
unidentified
I'm talking about Polaris.
jamie vernon
I'm going to give you an example to test it for yourself to show you that the stars in the sky that you'll see above your head, like you've claimed to go out and look out every night, will be different throughout the year.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
They won't be different.
They're moving.
They are rotating.
They are rotating around Polaris.
unidentified
They're not going to be in the same spot.
eddie bravo
Because they're rotating.
They are moving.
joe rogan
Okay.
eddie bravo
They are moving, but you're always going to see Polaris.
joe rogan
Why would you think that this is a conspiracy?
Why would they lie about the Earth spinning when it's really the universe spinning?
unidentified
Are they not stars?
brendan schaub
They're trying to control us.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
unidentified
What are they?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
People.
unidentified
LEDs?
joe rogan
People looking down.
eddie bravo
I don't think they're LEDs.
brendan schaub
Are they aliens?
joe rogan
Happy people.
brendan schaub
They're souls.
joe rogan
They're angels.
brendan schaub
You're telling me my grandma's out there?
joe rogan
Flying unicorns, bro.
Your grandma's flying unicorns.
eddie bravo
I haven't even told you the craziest shit.
joe rogan
Oh, you certainly have.
eddie bravo
I haven't even had nothing to do with Flat Earth.
You son of a bitch.
What's the craziest shit?
brendan schaub
Crazier than Flat Earth?
eddie bravo
Crazier than Flat Earth.
joe rogan
Why save it?
brendan schaub
I don't want you guys to make fun of me.
joe rogan
You don't want me to make fun of you?
eddie bravo
You guys already making fun of me from flat earth?
joe rogan
I've never made fun of you.
unidentified
I just don't trust NASA. You're in the safe zone.
brendan schaub
You have a circle of trust.
eddie bravo
You want to hear some crazy shit?
Please.
joe rogan
I'm scared.
brendan schaub
Can we end on this?
joe rogan
Yeah, let's end.
unidentified
No, I want to end on the crazy.
brendan schaub
I want to end on the crazy.
unidentified
You sure?
brendan schaub
Yeah, just don't make it long.
unidentified
Drop it now and we'll go into it next time.
Drop it and then cut it.
joe rogan
If you drop it now, we'll never make it out of here.
brendan schaub
No, drop it and then cut it.
joe rogan
It's 6 o'clock.
brendan schaub
I know.
I just wanted to drop it and cut it.
eddie bravo
Oh shit, yeah.
At six o'clock?
joe rogan
Yeah, at six o'clock.
eddie bravo
We'll save it for next.
Unless you want to hear it now, I don't know.
It's too crazy.
unidentified
It's too crazy.
Let's go.
Do it.
eddie bravo
It's too crazy.
joe rogan
Okay.
It's really, really crazy.
We'll talk off air about this.
Holy shit, my head hurts.
eddie bravo
It's so crazy, it'll discredit the flat earth theory.
brendan schaub
My mind can't handle it, Eddie.
joe rogan
Everything is a conspiracy.
brendan schaub
I left this one to you guys.
joe rogan
You need a t-shirt that says everything is conspiracy.
Life is a conspiracy.
You make Alex Jones look like fucking Gandhi.
eddie bravo
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Alex Jones, 90% of the conspiracy theories, is like, well, that's all bullshit.
But Eddie just...
brendan schaub
He's fully in.
You gotta appreciate the hustle by Eddie.
unidentified
Alex Jones is like a blue belt conspiracy theorist.
joe rogan
Wow, I can't believe you said that.
Let's end on that.
Let's end on that.
Good night, everybody.
Much love.
eddie bravo
Blue belts are fucking badass.
unidentified
Much love.
Oh, man.
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