April 11, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:44:08
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| Oh, ladies and gentlemen, we got a sweet show today. | ||
| Cameron Haynes is in the building, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Cameron Haynes. | ||
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What's up? | |
| What's up, brother? | ||
| Scott motherfucking Eastwood is in the house. | ||
| And if you can't see me, it's because I'm wearing this sweet Under Armour camo shirt, and I do tend to blend into the background. | ||
| So if you get confused and go, why is Joe's head just floating in the air like that? | ||
| But if you could see it, you'd notice you look jacked in it. | ||
| Jacked, right? | ||
| It's tight. | ||
| It's form-fitting. | ||
| I'm peeling it. | ||
| I'm peeling it. | ||
| It's a floating head. | ||
| So Cam's in town. | ||
| We're shooting bows today, and I know he gave you a bow yesterday. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We went down to Riverside, Riverside Archery, to check out, you know, he's throwing me a bow. | ||
| So that was cool. | ||
| You had an old bow. | ||
| We had an upgrade, didn't we? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was your old bow? | ||
| It was an old Ross. | ||
| It was probably from... | ||
| Like Ross dressed for less. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Same company? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I don't even know if you heard. | ||
| Is Ross an archery company? | ||
| A big archery company? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, it's small. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not even sure if they still have. | ||
| They probably don't make them anymore. | ||
| This was like a secondhand bow I bought off somebody years ago. | ||
| So is this something you wanted to do for a while and somehow or another you got a hold of Cam? | ||
| I don't remember how we got connected. | ||
| It was through Instagram. | ||
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He likes to say I slid him a DM. It's all going down in the DMs. | |
| Some desperate girl. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| I mean, I always put up hunting stuff, obviously, and I think you commented maybe or something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So it wasn't like an unsolicited DM, like, hey, I'd like to get to know you a little better, but I think it was... | ||
| Which would have been okay, too. | ||
| It's all good. | ||
| I mean, it's 2017. Everybody's free to express themselves in the way they feel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's something like that built on. | ||
| And then we just started talking archery, then hunting. | ||
| And he grew up and has hunted and had the bow. | ||
| And so he got done with his movie stuff and was here and thought, hey, let's get together and shoot. | ||
| Also the public land stuff, too. | ||
| I've been noticing you guys have both been talking about that. | ||
| And so I was really interested in that. | ||
| So I started reading up about it. | ||
| And I just said, you know, hey, how can I help? | ||
| How can I get involved? | ||
| Because this means a lot to me. | ||
| I'm a native Californian, and I grew up going to Yosemite, you know, going hunting, going fishing, using the public lands. | ||
| And so it was really important to me. | ||
| You know, my dad was a state parks commissioner. | ||
| Most people don't know that. | ||
| When was this? | ||
| What point in his life? | ||
| This was gotta be... | ||
| Before he was the mayor of Carmel? | ||
| No, no, after. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, this was after. | ||
| So fairly recently then? | ||
| Yeah, probably in the last, I would say, 15 years. | ||
| I mean, I know he did it for a while and then got out. | ||
| But, you know, he was big in the... | ||
| Do you remember the toll road going through San Clemente? | ||
| No, I'm not aware of that. | ||
| Yeah, so they were proposing a... | ||
| This was when Arnold Schwarzenegger was in office. | ||
| And they were proposing a toll road to go through San Clemente, which goes through Trestles, which is a popular surf break. | ||
| And he was... | ||
| Everyone got behind it. | ||
| Surfrider Foundation didn't want it because it was going to destroy the wave and ultimately destroy the national park there. | ||
| And so he was big on that kind of stuff. | ||
| And so I've always been... | ||
| You know, sort of following his footsteps saying, we gotta get in front of this problem. | ||
| Dude, your dad's Clint Eastwood. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| What is it like having Clint Eastwood as a dad? | ||
| Like, what's your dad do? | ||
| My dad is Clint Eastwood, bitch. | ||
| People just feel like, oh shit. | ||
| They just walk away confused. | ||
| Like, what happened to me? | ||
| I just got hit with a rock. | ||
| And you look like him, man. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| When I'm looking at you, I see your dad from the old outlaw Josie Wales days. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know what's crazy is looking at photos of him when he was 12 and I was 12. You cannot tell the difference. | ||
| You put him in both in black and white, you can't tell the difference. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's a trip. | ||
| What was it like growing up with him as a dad? | ||
| When did you realize? | ||
| Like, holy shit. | ||
| I think I realized, uh, I'm 31, so I probably realized when I was about 8. I watched Unforgiven. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He let you watch that when you were 8? | ||
| That's my favorite Clint Eastwood movie ever. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, High Plains Drifter's right up there, too. | ||
| I don't know, it's hard to lock them down. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But The Unforgiven's a dark movie, man. | ||
| Yeah, it's dark. | ||
| William Money. | ||
| William Money. | ||
| Killer of women and children. | ||
| That's a dark movie, man. | ||
| We all got it coming. | ||
| That's what he says in that one. | ||
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I love that. | |
| Probably one of the most realistic killers, too. | ||
| The way he handled stuff and the way everybody else was falling apart. | ||
| You never saw that in those movies. | ||
| Well, it was about regret. | ||
| It was about a life filled of regret and things that you did wrong that you wish you could have done better. | ||
| It was sort of one last ride to do something better for his kids. | ||
| I think that was sort of interesting. | ||
| It was sort of a final culmination of all his Westerns. | ||
| It really was. | ||
| And almost like he updated them all, too. | ||
| Because in the old movies, you'd have cowards and you'd have heroes and stuff like that. | ||
| In The Unforgiven, he took it to a totally different level, like, psychologically. | ||
| You know, like, even the way he, like, the switch goes off when he starts drinking, and then he starts just fucking murking everybody. | ||
| Like, the way it was handled, it seemed so realistic. | ||
| The way everybody would fall apart in gunfights, and the way... | ||
| I gotta watch that again now. | ||
| It's been a while. | ||
| Now I'm like, this sounds awesome. | ||
| It's fucking great. | ||
| It's a fucking great movie. | ||
| I remember seeing it. | ||
| I remember the movie. | ||
| I went to see it in the movie theater, and when the credits rolled at the end, I just went like this. | ||
| Yeah, powerful one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's an intense movie, man. | ||
| Fucking intense. | ||
| So when you're eight, you figured it out? | ||
| Like, that movie? | ||
| Right around then, yeah. | ||
| I remember watching it. | ||
| I'm not sure if I watched it with him or shortly after he made it. | ||
| And just thinking, you know, that is the coolest thing. | ||
| And I want to do that. | ||
| You know, I want to be in movies. | ||
| I want to tell stories like that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So, how many... | ||
| And you have brothers and sisters, and so how did all that work? | ||
| Yeah, I've got a few sisters. | ||
| My dad was a busy guy. | ||
| How many kids in the family? | ||
| How many wives? | ||
| Yeah, let's just go with that. | ||
| He's only had two wives, but he's had a few girlfriends, a few different babies, mamas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So did you live with him? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I did. | ||
| I would bounce back and forth. | ||
| I lived with my mom. | ||
| I lived with my mom in California until I was about 7 or 8. And then I lived... | ||
| Then she moved. | ||
| She packed up. | ||
| This was kind of around the time when they split. | ||
| Was your mom an actress, too? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| She was just a normal person, a flight attendant. | ||
| She had two kids with my dad, and she packed up, I think, when they sort of split, and she moved to Hawaii. | ||
| She had lived there when she was a lot younger, and so she had always loved Hawaii. | ||
| So I had gone to Hawaii to live probably from about 8 to about 16. Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I ultimately moved back with my dad for the last couple years of high school. | ||
| So yeah, it was an interesting upbringing. | ||
| On one hand, I was with my dad for some time when I was in Hawaii, living there. | ||
| I don't know if you know anything about Hawaii as a white boy growing up. | ||
| You're the minority. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it was a lot of fist fights. | ||
| Did you show up with a Haole t-shirt on? | ||
| Haole's rule? | ||
| I mean, a lot of people don't realize that. | ||
| Hawaii is from a warrior society still. | ||
| And that's a great thing, kind of, because it's very primal. | ||
| And it's also one of those things where... | ||
| There's not a lot of tolerance for, you know, someone that you don't know or part of your family. | ||
| And so, you know, for me it was tough. | ||
| Did they accept you eventually? | ||
| You know, sports... | ||
| Sports really bridged that gap. | ||
| Football. | ||
| I played football and that was... | ||
| That really... | ||
| It was tough because the first year they were like, no. | ||
| They were like, you know, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| That would suck. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I was a kid then. | ||
| I was probably, I don't know, I can't remember, 10 or so, playing peewee football, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then as I would... | ||
| You know, prove myself that I was down for hard work and, you know, down to throw hits that, you know, that sort of, you know, bridged the gap. | ||
| And then ultimately, they were part of my team. | ||
| And then so we would, you know, go to other schools and, you know, play other schools. | ||
| And then I was still the Howley boy to everybody else, but they had my back now. | ||
| So that was cool. | ||
| That had to be a bizarre time, man, to be a 10-year-old and all of a sudden be in that environment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It was different. | ||
| I didn't know any better. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay, well, this is what I got to deal with now is the cards I got dealt, so I either got to man up. | ||
| Yeah, I have a bunch of buddies who live in Hawaii, and they say that if you're respectful and you're not a douchebag, after a while you just fit right in and everybody's cool with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I grew up also as a surfer. | ||
| I was growing up surfing, and so there's definitely a pecking order and a respect there that you have to learn, or you're going to learn the hard way. | ||
| And I think that was a good thing, ultimately, because it kind of humbles you and makes you know your place, which is good. | ||
| Did you start training jiu-jitsu there? | ||
| I started, you know, actually, one of my good buddies who passed away, Paul Walker, got me into jiu-jitsu. | ||
| He got me in about six years ago. | ||
| Maybe more now. | ||
| Yeah, he was like a purple belt, right? | ||
| Or a brown belt or something? | ||
| Yeah, he was a brown belt when he died. | ||
| And so, yeah, he was, I mean, he was, you know, diehard. | ||
| I mean, he had a place in Hawaii, actually, and he would go get mats and he would get his place outfitted so he could practice at home. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| And he got me involved. | ||
| And that's, you know, that's another thing that's great about over there is, like, you really realize, like, obviously, you know, jits is, like, the ultimate humbling, you know, for people, especially for, you know, I think for men that carry a lot of ego around or carry a lot of, you know, you know, I think as men, we're trying to figure out who we are, especially when we're young. | ||
| It really calms your ego down because you always know, you know, I'm gonna choke some people out and people are gonna choke me out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just no matter what level you're at. | ||
| You also get it out of your system. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A big part of what men do, they puff their chest up, is they want to prove themselves and they haven't yet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they don't know. | ||
| And so they want to like put up this air like they're some bad motherfucker because they're insecure. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They don't know. | ||
| And once you've done it a bunch of times and, you know, trained for a few years, it just it all calms down. | ||
| Yeah, you notice like all the all the you know guys who do it consistently or eat the high-level guys Just so calm. | ||
| Yeah, so calm and that's actually one thing I noticed about Cameron too. | ||
| He's like he's a calm motherfucker cuz He spends a lot of time out in the wilderness and I think that has a big You know with the world we live in now today. | ||
| Yeah, we're Yeah, and we talked about this. | ||
| Some of the experiences, the stressful experiences and the hard. | ||
| I mean, life here is never hard, really. | ||
| The challenges we face in the regular everyday world. | ||
| Sometimes you have traffic, dude. | ||
| Sometimes the line at Starbucks is huge. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's hard. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Aside from that. | ||
| That is tough. | ||
| It's spelled Cam with a K. Right. | ||
| But so, I mean, it puts it in perspective. | ||
| It's just kind of like what you're saying. | ||
| But yeah, you need experiences like that. | ||
| You kind of simulate those in training or in the hunts that I do or the races that I do. | ||
| And it keeps it in perspective so you don't get wound up over the little stuff. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| No biggie. | ||
| There's a humbling just being in the woods. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You just realize, like, oh, this doesn't matter if I never existed. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, if human beings were never invented, these woods would be exactly like this. | ||
| No, and I've thought about that a lot. | ||
| I've been in the mountains, and, you know, I'd say, if something happens, if... | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| You die for whatever reason. | ||
| Nothing there changes an iota. | ||
| It's like your existence doesn't even matter. | ||
| We feel too self-important sometimes. | ||
| I think some people do. | ||
| In that situation, you're like... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm, you know, nothing really. | ||
| My friend Ryan Callahan, you know Ryan from First Light? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was out in the woods with a two friend of his, and they work for the park. | ||
| They were like rangers or something, and they found a human skull. | ||
| And they're like, whoa. | ||
| And they just... | ||
| It just puts it all in perspective. | ||
| You're out deep, deep in the backcountry, and you find a human skull. | ||
| And it's just like, okay, yeah, this is real. | ||
| This was a person, and something went wrong. | ||
| And they just never found them, and it just happens. | ||
| Could be a bear, could be a cat, could be a trip. | ||
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Lightning. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, lightning happens a lot to people out there. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was telling you the other day, Cameron, I did a lot of reading about circadian rhythms in our body because I've had chronic sleepwalking, chronic night terrors since I was a little kid. | ||
| What is night terrors? | ||
| What's the difference between night terrors and sleepwalking? | ||
| Uh, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I've had both. | ||
| What is the night terrors? | ||
| A night terror would be, you know, sort of, you wake up in the middle of the night, you know, to scream, yelling. | ||
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Oh, that's every day for me. | |
| You know, get out. | ||
| That's my life. | ||
| That was a bad dream. | ||
| And they can sort of, I think they can coincide with sleepwalking, probably, you know. | ||
| So stress-related? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| It's hard to say. | ||
| I got them when I was young, when I started getting them, I think when I was about in sixth grade. | ||
| So I don't know if it was stress-related or what it was. | ||
| But I started getting them, and then... | ||
| I've had them. | ||
| I'm 31 now. | ||
| So I've been reading a lot about that and I obviously listen to your podcast a lot about just about the way humans are supposed to operate in the natural life cycle. | ||
| You wake up in the morning because it gets light and you go to bed because it gets dark and we're screwing that all up with The TVs and the phones and all the stuff. | ||
| And anytime I've ever been in the wilderness, I do a lot of backpacking and been on a lot of hunting trips and fishing and stuff. | ||
| Really calms my body down a lot. | ||
| And what they said was, in all the reading I've done, is that your creation of melatonin is in your optics because of the assimilation of light. | ||
| So when it gets dark, your mind's supposed to create more melatonin, which obviously puts you to sleep. | ||
| But because we don't have that... | ||
| We're manipulating that. | ||
| It's changed everything. | ||
| That's why they invented Ambien. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Works great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are taking pills that just knock them out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, just in order to deal with the fact that we're constantly surrounded by lights and staring at your phone before you go to bed and watching TV and go to the bathroom and the light's bright. | ||
| Your body doesn't know what that is. | ||
| No. | ||
| When we were talking about this yesterday, I said I've never been born at peace and relaxed and slept as well as I have in the mountains. | ||
| There's an adjustment period, it seems like. | ||
| But once I'm there, it's just like, I've never been... | ||
| I don't want to make it sound like anything bad at home, but I've never been more... | ||
| I don't know if it's happy or just more... | ||
| Content. | ||
| Content. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| More content than I am in the mountains. | ||
| It feels like that's just natural. | ||
| That's how it's supposed to be. | ||
| Well, people really are supposed to interface with the wilderness the same way all animals are. | ||
| We've just created these weird structures over the past few thousand years. | ||
| When you really think about civilization, we only figured out how to talk 40,000 years ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or the wheel, right? | ||
| The wheel is, you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, I think the wheel is... | ||
| 5,000? | ||
| Yeah, it's a little longer than that. | ||
| It's somewhere around 6,000 years ago they figured out the wheel, which is just hilarious. | ||
| Here's the best way to put that in perspective. | ||
| Let's say it's 5,500 years ago. | ||
| That's essentially a person lives to be 100. That's 55 people ago. | ||
| 55 people ago they were just dragging shit around. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 55 people go. | ||
| And then before that, you know, you just go back a few more people and they were grunting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, they hadn't even figured out how to write things down. | ||
| It's really nuts. | ||
| Or even, you know, what's even crazier to think about is how we've taken airplanes and perfected that in the last 50 years. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You know, before that, it was, you know, you didn't. | ||
| You couldn't just get on an airplane and be anywhere in the world in 24 hours. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's a totally new experience. | ||
| 1903. You want to hear the craziest fucking statistics ever? | ||
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Okay. | |
| Between the time the plane was invented, between the invention of the airplane and someone dropping an atomic bomb out of the airplane, it was less than 50 years. | ||
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Jeez. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy what we do to each other. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It was like somewhere like 44 years or something like that between the invention of the airplane by the Wright brothers, the first flight, and then a bomb dropping on Hiroshima. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then now, there's Fast and Furious 8, and they got bombs. | ||
| Oh, I like the Segway. | ||
| Nice plug there. | ||
| Jeez, that was good. | ||
| Bro, you should be a publicist. | ||
| No, it's totally unrelated. | ||
| Just thought of that. | ||
| How many of those have you done? | ||
| No, this is the first one that I've done. | ||
| This is the first one? | ||
| Yeah, this is the eighth. | ||
| This will be the eighth one. | ||
| And they're going to do ten, right? | ||
| So they're doing them back-to-back? | ||
| Is that what they're doing? | ||
| I think that's the plan. | ||
| I'm sure Vin Diesel and the producers have the plan set, but that's the whispers I hear that we do a couple more. | ||
| I think ten would be cool. | ||
| If we made it this far, we might as well go to ten, right? | ||
| Now, can you tell us, does your character survive? | ||
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Can you give us a spoiler alert? | |
| Are you allowed to? | ||
| I saw the movie. | ||
| Oh, you can tell me then. | ||
| You're not obligated. | ||
| You didn't have to sign anything, did you? | ||
| It was good last night. | ||
| I mean, Scott had a big role. | ||
| It was cool because I didn't know. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, sure. | ||
| Didn't ask, did anything, but yeah, he's all over it the whole time, so it was cool. | ||
| He did a good job. | ||
| Yeah, let's just say it's a good one and everyone will like it. | ||
| Are you a muscle car guy? | ||
| Do you like muscle cars? | ||
| Yeah, I'm a classic car guy. | ||
| I like classics. | ||
| I love the old 60s Ferrari between, you know, Ferrari and Ford, that whole rivalry back then. | ||
| Oh, the GTs? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm actually getting the opportunity to purchase one of the new GTs coming out in 2017. Really? | ||
| Dude, that thing looks insane. | ||
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Insane. | |
| And they're making only a hundred this year. | ||
| What a bunch of cunts. | ||
| Why would you only make a hundred? | ||
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I'm so excited about it. | |
| Why would you make a hundred? | ||
| Seven billion people, are you going to make a hundred cars? | ||
| Assholes. | ||
| They're collectibles. | ||
| So, I mean, how much do they charge for those, for a hundred of them? | ||
| I think the price is about $350,000. | ||
| $350,000. | ||
| Pull up a picture of this fucking thing. | ||
| It's a beast. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| That's the new one. | ||
| Insanity. | ||
| Configurator. | ||
| Why are they letting you configure it if you can't even fucking buy it? | ||
| Just a bunch of teases, Ford. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| First of all, that doesn't even look like a Ford. | ||
| I mean, that looks like a Ford on planet Mars. | ||
| It's pretty cool, right? | ||
| It looks kind of like a Ferrari, doesn't it? | ||
| It looks better than a Ferrari. | ||
| That's a badass looking car. | ||
| God. | ||
| Let me see if you've got some other angles on it. | ||
| Is there any other angles? | ||
| Ooh, look at that. | ||
| Ooh, pretty. | ||
| Like the hood. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Some camo on there. | ||
| Hey, is there a camo option there? | ||
| Some Ridge Reaper option? | ||
| Look at that fucking... | ||
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A car! | |
| Oh my god, what a beast! | ||
| Yeah, I think I might get one too, actually. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Go for it, dude. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Get rid of the Ram. | ||
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My whole life of salary, but that's alright. | |
| $350,000. | ||
| But meanwhile, the way they're making cars today, that thing's gotta be insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that'll be like a piece of art, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That will be, you know, like the older GTs that have gone up in value because they just don't... | ||
| It's hard to say that about new cars, though. | ||
| So much plastic and stuff. | ||
| They just don't seem to... | ||
| People don't want them. | ||
| You know, like, if you get a 1960s car, it's worth a shitload of money today. | ||
| But a 1990s car ain't worth shit. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like, there's no classics from 1990. There's a couple Porsches, like 964s from the 90s or 993s, the last of the air-cooled cars. | ||
| They're still worth some money. | ||
| They're classics. | ||
| But that's kind of it. | ||
| Like maybe a few classic Ferraris from that day, but like a Camaro from 1990, push that thing off a cliff and shoot at it while it's on its way down. | ||
| Hey, don't let your girl drive that car. | ||
| Oh, she got issues? | ||
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We were saying before, she crashes things a little bit. | |
| She's got a long history. | ||
| Let's leave it at that. | ||
| Hey, listen, people can't be great at everything. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| Have you seen the new Acura NSX? No. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Look at this thing. | ||
| Jamie, pull that up if you're into cars. | ||
| You know, Acura built the last NSX in 2005. So there's like 12 years off before they came out with the new one. | ||
| They just came out with the new one this year. | ||
| This spaceship. | ||
| This is a monstrous spaceship. | ||
| See, you can find a silver one. | ||
| See, I like that when they do that with cars. | ||
| They sort of wait a long time to come up with a whole new concept, not just every three or four years. | ||
| Four-wheel drive. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Yeah, no, I like it too. | ||
| Four-wheel drive, electric wheels on the front. | ||
| It's tough looking at that one after the Ford done. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Well, that's not a good angle. | ||
| Jamie keeps going to the same angle. | ||
| What are you doing here with the Kelly Blue Book? | ||
| I was hating on the Ford, but I'm telling you. | ||
| No, I love that Ford. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Get off this site. | ||
| This site's bullshit. | ||
| They get you with that Kelly Blue Book bullshit. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's a clickbait. | ||
| See if you can see a three-quarter view in the upper left-hand side. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| It's a dope car, man. | ||
| When you see one in real life, it looks like a spaceship. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| It looks cool. | ||
| Cars today, man. | ||
| But that's like looking at a new Hoyt and looking at the Ross Bow. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You don't think that looks as cool as... | ||
| That looks good, but not as good as a Ford, does it? | ||
| Pretty close. | ||
| I don't know, dude. | ||
| Everybody's got different taste cam hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just can't wait for the self-driving because... | ||
| People just are terrible drivers, so let's just get on with that. | ||
| We've figured that out. | ||
| Everyone sucks. | ||
| But then what about these kind of cars? | ||
| Well, that's fine. | ||
| Just let them be self-driving. | ||
| That's not going to be self-driving. | ||
| That would be ridiculous. | ||
| Imagine if you have a car like that, like a Ford GT, but it's self-driving. | ||
| Unless you're on a racetrack. | ||
| You'd be like, what, am I going to live on a racetrack? | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| If something's happening as we're making things autonomous, we're going to lose a little bit of something. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| It's sort of one of the reasons why people like handmade stuff now. | ||
| Like, you get a pair of handmade boots or something like that. | ||
| It's like, ooh, it feels different. | ||
| These are handmade Lucchese's. | ||
| Are they really? | ||
| Yeah, Lucchese's handmade. | ||
| I think they take like 18, no, maybe like 11 days to do... | ||
| To do from start to finish. | ||
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Wow. | |
| With all the leathering and stuff they do. | ||
| I mean, they do in different stages. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, I mean, they're the best boots on the market. | ||
| And doesn't that feel different when you have them? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, there's something knowing that a person made it, too. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Well, they're just so comfortable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, cowboy boots normally aren't that comfortable, but those, that's what my boots were yesterday, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So nice. | ||
| I was reading this podcast. | ||
| Reading a podcast? | ||
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What? | |
| Listening to a podcast. | ||
| Listening to a book. | ||
| I guess you can do that. | ||
| You can do that now. | ||
| About horseback riding and this guy was explaining how people try to wear hiking boots when they go horseback riding and they jam their food. | ||
| He's like, there's a reason why cowboy boots fall off so easy. | ||
| You don't get dragged behind a fucking horse. | ||
| It's supposed to happen. | ||
| Yeah, that's why they're pointed. | ||
| So they slide in and slide out. | ||
| They slide in and slide out, and they slip right off your feet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And you get a good pair of these. | ||
| I mean, they'll last 10, 20 years. | ||
| I mean, they'll last a lifetime. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They could. | ||
| I just bought, I got my, the ones I had yesterday, which were like a thousand bucks, and I just got them resold because I'd worn them so much. | ||
| $74.50. | ||
| To resell it? | ||
| Yeah, brand new soles on, I mean, brand new boot. | ||
| I've heard that since you have your own Under Armour sneaker that you're the Kanye West of badasses. | ||
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Is this true? | |
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| Kanye West of bow hunting. | ||
| Oh, well because Kanye West has Yeezys. | ||
| Do you know what Yeezys are? | ||
| Yeah, his shoe. | ||
| Yeah, Jamie buys them. | ||
| I think he's got them. | ||
| Do you have them on? | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
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He's got them. | |
| He's such a weirdo. | ||
| He's got like five pairs of them, this weirdo. | ||
| I don't even know what that is. | ||
| Yeezy, that's what the kids are calling me. | ||
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Jamie. | |
| Jamie. | ||
| Aren't those a lot? | ||
| Like, expensive? | ||
| Stupid expensive. | ||
| If you can't get them when they come on sale, they are a lot. | ||
| Like, how much are they right out of the gate? | ||
| The ones that are going to resale that come out this month, they're reselling for $2,000 right now. | ||
| They're $200 retail. | ||
| $200 retail and they sell for $2,000? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because they make, what, a hundred pair? | ||
| Like $20,000 maybe. | ||
| Like that goddamn, you can get a free one with a Ford GT. Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, I think that's how Brandon's reference is tied in. | ||
| It's Kanye's shoe. | ||
| Yes, that's what it is. | ||
| It's not that you're an egotistical, autistic rapper. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| Well, I see him. | ||
| He was at the UFC fight. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Kanye was? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know which one it was. | ||
| Oh yeah, that's right. | ||
| He was there with the boyfriend that J-Lo dumped because he went to the UFC. It was one of Conor's fights. | ||
| Oh, was it? | ||
| That's what it was, yeah. | ||
| The boyfriend wanted to go to the McGregor fight and J-Lo was like, fuck that bitch, she's staying with me. | ||
| Jamie got a picture with him. | ||
| Did you get a picture with Kanye? | ||
| Yeah, here's Kanye West, even at the UFC fight, just like this. | ||
| Well, I saw him smile a few times when we met some people. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, but he's... | ||
| He needs a hug. | ||
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I got him to smile. | |
| Did you? | ||
| What'd you do? | ||
| Touch his butt? | ||
| No, he didn't smile. | ||
| Not in your picture, did he? | ||
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Yeah, I'll pull it up. | |
| What'd you do to get him to smile? | ||
| Well, he needs a hug. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| Needs a hug and some good friends. | ||
| So I'm going to calm him down. | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| Settle down, dude. | ||
| Let me talk to you about your prenup. | ||
| You got one, right? | ||
| That's what I would do. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| That is not smile. | ||
|
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That was a small smirk. | |
| No, not really. | ||
|
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That's a Kanye smile. | |
| That's not. | ||
| The smile from Tony Hinchcliffe is bouncing off. | ||
| Plus, you didn't smile, so he was like, why am I fucking smiling if this dude isn't smiling? | ||
| You're not even happening to meet me, you fuck. | ||
| Why are you even taking a picture? | ||
| Hashtag blessed. | ||
| At least he's got Tupac on his shirt. | ||
| Yes, he's got taste in that regard. | ||
| That's the best thing about that, other than Jamie and Tony. | ||
| Yes, I agree. | ||
| The Tupac shirt's a good move. | ||
| It's a good move. | ||
| Yeah, if you're... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The rapper world is a very fucking strange world. | ||
| I can't even imagine. | ||
| Can't even imagine. | ||
| No. | ||
| But... | ||
| Hey, I did want to ask something. | ||
| So... | ||
| When you're growing up, was there pressure because your dad was Clint Eastwood? | ||
| And then you said you wanted to be an actor. | ||
| You knew. | ||
| Was that... | ||
| I know we're going back to it, but I was just wondering. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good question. | ||
| Well, I think I always wanted to tell stories. | ||
| I don't know if I necessarily knew I wanted to be an actor. | ||
| I think as I get older, I realize it's more about telling stories. | ||
| I just sort of fell into the acting. | ||
| I was like, okay, well, this could be a way I could get in. | ||
| I could... | ||
| I could go into that. | ||
| So you just enjoy the entertainment process, like creating something that people are going to be entertained by and enjoy? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Telling a story that people can relate to, laugh, cry, whatever. | ||
| Do you think you'll go the road to your dad and maybe do some directing and writing and things along the way? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that the plan? | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| Taking control of your own career is good. | ||
| And it's also, you know, you tell the stories you want to tell. | ||
| Yeah, we were talking about this before the podcast, that the world of the actor is very difficult. | ||
| And a lot of people, like, accuse actors of being fake. | ||
| And I think one of the reasons for that... | ||
| Narcissistic motion. | ||
| Yeah, there's that for sure. | ||
| But one of the reasons for accusing them of being fake is that they always have to... | ||
| Put on the best show, like, as far as their behavior and the way they act and think and their opinions, because they're constantly trying to get cast in things. | ||
| And it's all about getting people like you and politicking. | ||
| And we were talking also about, like, you kind of have to have liberal sensibilities. | ||
| Like, in this town, if you're a right winger... | ||
| Does that even make sense? | ||
| It seems like they contradict each other. | ||
| Liberal sensibilities. | ||
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That seems... | |
| Well, it's one reason that I moved out of L.A. Years ago, I got sick of... | ||
| There are great people in L.A. I'm from California, so I feel it has a place in my heart here. | ||
| But I got out of L.A. because if you meet 100 people in L.A., you might meet 95 that are full of shit and five good ones. | ||
| You're too generous. | ||
| Yeah, that's a problem, right? | ||
| I always judge it when I meet somebody and I'm having a conversation with them and I ask how they're doing. | ||
| I meet an actor or something. | ||
| How you been? | ||
| What are you working on? | ||
| Cool. | ||
| A lot of times they're just waiting for their turn to talk. | ||
| They're not even listening to you. | ||
| They're not going to return that and say, what are you doing? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Yeah, you don't feel like a sincere conversation. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big issue with people in general, but in LA, I think this is the magnet for all the narcissists and all the people that want attention and the people that have a hole. | ||
| They have a hole they need to fill up for whatever their childhood, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| And they gravitate here and then they just communicate with each other the same way. | ||
| And everybody kind of like pretends to be someone who they're not. | ||
| And then hopefully they make it. | ||
| And then once they make it, then they just, you know, become some fucking weirdo. | ||
| It's weird how many of them are almost like cookie cutter. | ||
| Like, oh, I've met that guy before. | ||
| He just looked different. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like the same person living a different life. | ||
| I know exactly what this is. | ||
| Someone got lazy on the assembly line. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They fell asleep or something. | ||
| But the actor world is... | ||
| I've met a lot of comedians that are similar, but they vary so much. | ||
| But the actors... | ||
| Boy, there's a lot that are super similar. | ||
| Just a lot of... | ||
| But then again, you'll meet some of them who've figured it out and made it through and they're super normal. | ||
| Like Adam Sandler... | ||
| He's one of the nicest guys you've ever met in your life. | ||
| Oh my god, he couldn't be nicer. | ||
| If you didn't know he was Adam Sandler and you met him, you'd be like, oh, it's someone's dad. | ||
| Fucking super normal dude. | ||
| Tom Hanks. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| You said super normal. | ||
| That's what people say, you know, because they ask me, oh, how's Scott? | ||
| You know, seems normal. | ||
| So that's why you're like, so... | ||
| You must not know me yet. | ||
| That's That's like the best compliment for an actor. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Because an actor is like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who am I to say who's normal, right? | ||
| But to me, he seems like a normal guy. | ||
| And you said Adam Sandler was completely normal. | ||
| So that kind of puts it in perspective. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What I mean by normal is like you could talk to them and they're really there. | ||
| They're real sincere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're present. | ||
| They're having a real conversation with you. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that just don't do that. | ||
| You talk to them and they're just putting on some... | ||
| Hey, how are you? | ||
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Good to see you. | |
| I definitely don't trust people who are too nice. | ||
| I'm like, why are they so nice? | ||
| This isn't right. | ||
| It's just a tough world for these people anyway, especially the ones that haven't made it out here. | ||
| It's so psychologically devastating because you're constantly going on auditions and you're constantly getting rejected. | ||
| So you're insecure in the first place and then you are hoping someone likes you. | ||
| So you go to this thing and you're kind of like putting on your best behavior and you're dressing good. | ||
| Like, hi, pleased to meet you. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| Hey, thanks guys. | ||
| Thanks for the opportunity. | ||
| You leave and they don't like you. | ||
| They said you sucked at the audition. | ||
| What? | ||
| I didn't suck! | ||
| They just really didn't like you. | ||
| They said you didn't make eye contact. | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| People get weirder and weirder. | ||
| And if you meet an actor... | ||
| Say, like, one year. | ||
| And then you meet them ten years later and they're still swinging and nothing's happening. | ||
| They might be, like, almost ready to crack. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right on the verge. | ||
| Right at that falling down with that Michael Douglas, you know, when he's fucking, he's got the briefcase and he goes in traffic, starts shooting people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, they're, like, a couple of days before that. | ||
| They're, like, right... | ||
| Just on the breaking line. | ||
| They can't take it anymore. | ||
| It's a fucking devastating business, right? | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| But, you know, like I said, I mean, we were talking about before, it's all built on hard work and your reputation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because, like you said, you know, you get a reputation for being an asshole or, you know, showing up late to work or this, that, and the other, and, you know, everyone's going to know about it. | ||
| It's a small place, LA. Or being a diva. | ||
| Being a diva. | ||
| Divas, that's a big one, right? | ||
| That's not a good adjective. | ||
| You can't shake that one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That happens to people. | ||
| Like in Hollywood, they'll be doing a lot of big movies and you hear like, oh, she's difficult to work with. | ||
| And then they just fucking disappear. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it almost seems like Hollywood delights in shutting those people out. | ||
| They're rooting for you to fail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But when you prove to be ungrateful in some way, here's a perfect example. | ||
| Well, he kind of made it on television, but you remember David Caruso? | ||
| When David Caruso was on NYPD Blue, everybody was like, wow, this guy's a great actor. | ||
| And then he quit NYPD Blue and it was this massive hit show and then went and started doing like some real shitty movies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Everybody was like, why the fuck would you quit a big show like NYPD Blue and do a bunch of movies? | ||
| Like, boy, I hope he fails. | ||
| And then the movies failed and then everybody's like, ha ha. | ||
| And then he never did a movie again. | ||
| You never saw him in a good movie. | ||
| Like he had this trajectory of this amazing career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then he became this caricature because then he was doing that stupid cop show where he would take his glasses off and say some stupid pun. | ||
| Well, it looks like he got nailed and he'd take his glasses off. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| It was like CSI Miami or something like that. | ||
| And it was a fucking caricature of a cop show. | ||
| Whereas NYPD Blue, when he was on it, was groundbreaking. | ||
| I mean, it was fucking fantastic. | ||
| So what happened? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know who he is. | ||
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Was he a diva? | |
| He became recognized as a diva. | ||
| Whether or not he was actually a diva, I don't know the guy. | ||
| You'd have to meet him and talk to him and hang out with him. | ||
| But he had that stink. | ||
| And you get that stink on him. | ||
| That's the other thing, too. | ||
| In Hollywood, it's not even what's true sometimes. | ||
| It's just perceived. | ||
| My dad used to always say, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. | ||
| And that always stuck with me because, you know, you sit down with people in the industry or whatever, and you just hear, you know, a lot of Hollywood is gossip, right? | ||
| It's full of gossip queens. | ||
| Everybody wants to talk shit about someone they worked with or tell some story and tell how difficult somebody was or this, that. | ||
| And you don't even, you know, it's a business built on, you know, it's just a house of cards. | ||
| You know, you're like, well, how do you even know that that's even true? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, and so it's kind of fucked up. | ||
| I don't feel like that happens in other businesses, but maybe it does with co-workers. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it does. | ||
| It's a weird thing because when you're a movie star like yourself and you're on the screen, you get all the adulation and all the love. | ||
| There's a whole crew of people behind you. | ||
| There's special effects people and lighting and sound and it's directors and producers. | ||
| Guys like Jamie. | ||
| And young Jamie, there's a hundred people to every one that's on the screen, right? | ||
| At least. | ||
| And they get no love. | ||
| It's weird, right? | ||
| They get no love. | ||
| And that's where the business side of the business is so delusion, because the agents and the people around us, they're not the ones there Putting in the sweat every day for five months to make a film. | ||
| Pulling the creative ideas, pulling the hard work, the grips and all the guys who are underpaid and are working just to make money to feed their families. | ||
| It's interesting because I saw it from a very different lens. | ||
| I saw it from my father's lens, which is, you know, my dad show up on time, get the movie done, shoot it fast, treat everybody good, and work with the same people over and over again, do the right thing by people, have integrity. | ||
| People don't see that side of the business. | ||
| There's so much other stuff that people never get love for in the film industry. | ||
| Yeah, well, the long hours. | ||
| That's another thing that people don't understand. | ||
| If you're on a film set, what's an average day for you? | ||
| A short day is a 12-hour day. | ||
| So it's 12 to 16. And how many days a week are you working? | ||
| Five, six. | ||
| I mean, when you're on location, you're usually... | ||
| You could be in a movie that's doing a six-day work week, or you could be doing a five-day, but by the end, everyone's doing a six. | ||
| Sometimes even, you know, you're just putting in full throttle to get the movie done. | ||
| Now, when you're on location, do you have to squeeze a workout in to keep your brain sane? | ||
| How do you do that on a 16-hour day? | ||
| I try to do it during lunch because I find that if you go to lunch, you get sluggish after lunch. | ||
| And then you're going, "Oh, well, shit, I gotta get back in there and do this. | ||
| Now I gotta hit the coffee or hit the whatever to get stimulated." Cocaine, right? | ||
| That's what you're saying? | ||
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Yeah, just a bump. | |
| Are you a meth guy or a coke guy? | ||
| Mostly meth. | ||
| Just a bump to get the head straight. | ||
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Just a little bit. | |
| But yeah, so I think working out during lunch seems to be the best thing for me because I don't do well in the mornings for a workout because I feel stiff. | ||
| So I like to get the blood going first. | ||
| If I can hit it during lunch, even if I'm on set, I'll do whatever. | ||
| Dumbbells, this, that, and the other. | ||
| And then I'll get some endorphins kicking. | ||
| Yeah, I used to do that, too. | ||
| But now, lately, over the last, like, not even lately, but over the last, like, five or six years, I like to get up and the first thing I do, work out. | ||
| Especially, like, if I was doing jujitsu in the afternoon and I needed to do a lifting session... | ||
| I want as much space between the lifting and the jujitsu as possible so I can recover. | ||
| So for me, it's like, just get up. | ||
| And even though I don't feel good in the morning, once the blood starts pumping and the sweat, you got to just remind yourself, like, yeah, I know you feel like shit. | ||
| Just do the few reps, get that blood going, and then once you're sweating, you're sweating. | ||
| It's all the same, you know? | ||
| I mean, I do in the morning, too. | ||
| I worked out this morning. | ||
| Plus meth. | ||
| But I just... | ||
| That helps you feel the same, too. | ||
| So in the movie, Fast 8, we had a lot of sleeveless shirts, which I... That's awesome. | ||
| You're a big fan of those. | ||
| I'm a big fan of those. | ||
| That's why you slid me a DM. Yeah. | ||
| I got a lot of stuff going on Instagram. | ||
| I'm not sure about the connection. | ||
| He's confused right now. | ||
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He doesn't know what we're talking about, but he'll press on. | |
| So, did those guys... | ||
| So, Rock, Statham, all the... | ||
| Do we have to do push-ups in there to keep that pump for the scenes? | ||
| That's a very good question. | ||
| Look, I think everybody wants to be at the tip of the spear, right? | ||
| You got shirt off, tank off stuff, so let's get the pump on. | ||
| See, that's where a guy like me, I'm very, very modest. | ||
| So if I was there, I would be the opposite. | ||
| With your skin tight, muscle-bearing shirt. | ||
| I would try to slump, maybe, perhaps, or hide my definition. | ||
| No, that's not true. | ||
| You have good posture. | ||
| That's one of the first things I noticed when I walked out. | ||
| I said, oh, he really works on his posture. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I do a lot of yoga. | ||
| Yep, I do a lot of yoga. | ||
| Very good posture. | ||
| He notices, Cam. | ||
| You don't even notice, bro. | ||
| That was, uh... | ||
| You never commented on my posture. | ||
| That was, uh... | ||
| That was one of the first things when I... Because I got into yoga about ten years ago, and it's changed my life. | ||
| It's amazing, right? | ||
| It's changed my life. | ||
| There's no pump in yoga. | ||
| There's no pump in yoga. | ||
| We've discussed this. | ||
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Cam likes sleeveless shirts and getting his pump on. | |
| And it doesn't like touching his toes. | ||
| And so that's a struggle. | ||
| I can do this. | ||
| Knees bent. | ||
| But I think that was one of the first things a guy told me when I was getting into it. | ||
| He said, you really got to work on your posture. | ||
| He goes, you're going to... | ||
| Look at guys who are 90 walking around on the street who are slumped over. | ||
| He goes, do you want to be like that? | ||
| I mean, it kind of got me quick. | ||
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I was like, wow. | |
| Tell that guy to settle the fuck down. | ||
| I'm 31 years old. | ||
| How about you relax, pal? | ||
| Yeah, see, he's got such a better attitude because I would have said, worry about yourself. | ||
| I'm used to getting critiqued online, and so maybe I'm just a little defensive. | ||
| Well, these seats that we're sitting in are the best. | ||
| These are called Ergo Depot is the name of the company, and it's called a Capisco. | ||
| And what it is is they're comfortable, but they make you sort of sit and support yourself with your spine, whereas a lot of times people just kind of slump in chairs. | ||
| That's just terrible for your spine. | ||
| Slumping is terrible. | ||
| All that stuff's terrible. | ||
| And when you order, put in Rogan as order and save 10%. | ||
| Just kidding. | ||
| It's not a company I'm a sponsor. | ||
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How dare you? | |
| He's plugging every company. | ||
| Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and McDonald's. | ||
| If you do do yoga, though, you will notice a difference in your posture and the lack of back aches and pains and stuff like that. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| But it's just hard for people because it's not necessarily fun. | ||
| The results are excellent, but while you're there and you're sweating your dick off and you're stretching... | ||
| You've got to quiet your mind. | ||
| I think that's the hardest thing for people, right, is... | ||
| Is that the meditation aspect of it is so hard for people to go, to get out of their own way. | ||
| But once you do it for a while, you realize you're like, now I crave it. | ||
| I can't go a few days without it. | ||
| I start getting antsy and I go, I gotta get into yoga, you know? | ||
| Yeah, it's just, it's also a very pretentious thing. | ||
| Not really, but it sounds like it is. | ||
| Like, I'm going to do yoga, I'm better than you. | ||
| You're going to do yoga and then I'm going to have hummus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, oh, I hate this guy. | ||
| Well, you know, the thing was, when I started, ten years ago, a buddy brought me in. | ||
| It was 98% female. | ||
| Now, I've noticed, it's a 50-50. | ||
| Gotta go to a different class. | ||
| That would be a reason not to go. | ||
| What if there's a guy in front of you, and as you both bend over, you're standing in this guy's sack. | ||
| That's not cool. | ||
| What I'm trying to say is, I think that for a long time, it was frowned upon for men to go to yoga. | ||
| I know I even had those thoughts. | ||
| I was saying, well, yoga, I want to go hit the gym and get a pump on. | ||
| Get jacked. | ||
| I'm going, well, you know, you see all the benefits and everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To incorporate that with the pump. | ||
| Well, for jiu-jitsu, it's huge because range of motion is one of the most important things in jiu-jitsu and flexibility, especially when you have a good guard. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I got into yoga for the most part because of Hickson, Hickson Gracie. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I remember in 1994, I saw a video of Hickson Gracie doing yoga and I was like, Oh! | ||
| Because I was like, everybody had always said that Hickson was like, there was all these great Gracie family members. | ||
| Henzo was great. | ||
| Hyen was great. | ||
| All these guys were great. | ||
| Half. | ||
| But Hickson was always thought to be number one. | ||
| And I was like, well, why? | ||
| Why is he so much better than everybody else? | ||
| And then I realized, oh, he's got like the full package. | ||
| Like he has, his dad is Helio Gracie. | ||
| So his dad is like one of the original. | ||
| Originators of Brazilian jiu-jitsu so he grew up with it. | ||
| It's in his DNA He trained his whole life under the best teachers in the world and then Yoga and training and exercise like Hickson does bounce beams who stands on a bounce beam and does a full split standing up holds his foot over his head I mean it's fucking freaky to watch. | ||
| He's just got incredible control of his body so The dexterity and the control of the body along with the strength and jujitsu, that's what made Hickson who he is. | ||
| It's just, it's again, it's one of those things that's not as cool as telling someone you deadlift 600 pounds. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, what are you doing? | ||
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I'm doing deadlifting 605, I do 605 for three. | |
| You know, everybody's like, oh, you stodged that. | ||
| Yeah, I put chains on it because it's not hard enough. | ||
| Yeah, that kind of stuff is... | ||
| But that's going to catch up at the end of your life. | ||
| You know, that stuff, you know, if you're not careful, you're too much... | ||
| Of that, I feel like it's really going to cause a lot of pain in your later life. | ||
| It can. | ||
| But if you just do yoga, you look like a monk. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| No, you've got to get jacked, too. | ||
| You've got to get jacked, as well. | ||
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It's a little bit of... | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it depends on what you're trying to do. | ||
| But I agree with you that it does give you a calming thing. | ||
| It calms you down or away. | ||
| There's Hickson. | ||
| Look at that picture. | ||
| Him on the beach. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I can't do that. | ||
| Oh, he's unbelievably flexible. | ||
| You gotta get into it. | ||
| You gotta do it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Hickson... | ||
| There's just not a whole lot of human beings that can do that, but forget about, like, world-class black belts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's a freak, man. | ||
| Good combination. | ||
| Okay, wait. | ||
| So I gotta go back to the fanboy stuff. | ||
| So I just want to ask... | ||
| So that's so There's a you started off acting with like smaller movies, right? | ||
| Sure, but now you've been and tell me if I'm I know you were in fury. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't remember until That's started to know who you were what's fury fury was with Brad Pitt, right? | ||
| Which one was a World War two David Ayer? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, and then now it feels like you now you're in the big movies and Well, look, I started 14, 15, almost 15 years ago now doing it. | ||
| It's hysterical when people, you know, I first sort of got a couple of hit movies happening. | ||
| Oh, overnight success. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That's how it always works. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| I've been at it for 10 years, you know, at that point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, I started, yeah, doing tiny one-liners. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, any chance I got just to, you know, get on set, play any role, do any lines, whatever, just learn, soak it up. | ||
| And, yeah, I was doing that for years. | ||
| I mean, I was doing that for seven, eight years, you know, while I was bartending, while I was, you know, valet parking cars, anything to, you know, pay the bills. | ||
| But how important is that, that you actually worked your way through it, even though you're Clint Eastwood's son? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That's what I was interested in. | ||
| It didn't feel like he helped you. | ||
| And I don't know, maybe he did. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Anyone who knows my dad would just laugh. | ||
| They would say, oh yeah. | ||
| My dad's very old school. | ||
| And he's very, very tough on his sons. | ||
| I have an older brother. | ||
| And it just doesn't happen like that in our family. | ||
| There's no handouts. | ||
| You want something, you gotta go get it. | ||
| And I can't thank him enough for that because it never gave me any backup. | ||
| It didn't make me go, well, I can just sort of sit around. | ||
| It created drive. | ||
| It created hard work and drive and those are all the things that take to make somebody successful. | ||
| Yeah, like if you were 22 and he made you a star of his big movie, that would have probably ruined you. | ||
| It would have looked really bad on him. | ||
| Yeah, it would have looked weird. | ||
| He could do that, I guess, in his movie, but I think the common thing is, well, you had it easy because somebody else, he can't just pick up a phone and call some big director and tell him who he should cast. | ||
| And if he did, it would be a mess. | ||
| Yeah, and the director would probably tell him, you know, thank you, Clint, but I'm not doing that. | ||
| This is my movie and I don't even know who your son is. | ||
| When he went on TV and did that thing where he had a seat next to him and he talked to Obama and talked to the empty chair, did you call him up and go, what the fuck, Dad? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Nah, I stay out of politics. | ||
| I don't give two shits about politics. | ||
| That wasn't even politics. | ||
| That was just like a play. | ||
| Like a puppet show with no puppet. | ||
| Yeah, I did like the intent, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I hate... | ||
| Well, whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was good with it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Restraint of tongue and pen. | ||
| Hey, didn't you try out... | ||
| I don't even know how to... | ||
| Audition. | ||
| Audition! | ||
| This isn't my wheelhouse, but for American Sniper? | ||
| I did. | ||
| That was his movie, right? | ||
| That was his movie. | ||
| So, how'd that go? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Yeah, you know, I auditioned and, you know, I remember actually talking, I knew Bradley Cooper and I said, hey, you know, I'd love to play your brother. | ||
| I'd read the script. | ||
| I'd read the script and, you know, I was already doing my own thing at this point. | ||
| I was, you know, working for a long time, but I'd go in periodically and audition for his films because they're Clint Eastwood films. | ||
| If I could get an opportunity to audition, great. | ||
| When I said, I'd love to play your brother in one of those roles, Bradley kind of looked at me like, yeah, maybe, okay, cool. | ||
| Kind of brushed it off. | ||
| I was friends with him. | ||
| So I said, hey, can I get an audition to go audition for this through my dad's company? | ||
| And so I went and put myself on tape. | ||
| It's pretty simple when you go audition for him. | ||
| He's not there. | ||
| No one's there or anything. | ||
| You just go put yourself on tape with a casting director. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then, you know, you either hear something back or you don't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's sort of the end of it. | ||
| A lot of times, you never do. | ||
| I mean, that's how it goes for actors. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's what happened with that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You put it on tape and then didn't hear back? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| You didn't say... | ||
| What dad was up? | ||
| No, it didn't work like that in my family. | ||
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Really? | |
| Nah, he's too old as a guy. | ||
| I would never even dare to bring up something like that. | ||
| That's interesting to respect. | ||
| Yeah, that's, I mean... | ||
| That's probably why he's so normal. | ||
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Me? | |
| Yeah, because look, those people that are in those sheltered families... | ||
| Yeah, it's not good. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's not good for you. | ||
| No, you don't have the value for a dollar, the value for hard work. | ||
| You don't have... | ||
| Everything becomes blurred. | ||
| Well, it's handed to you, yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I think that's the same way with inheritance. | ||
| I mean, it's very rare that someone inherits a shitload of money early on in life and then winds up having character and being... | ||
| They say that Donald Trump is like that, that he's a cool guy. | ||
| Like everybody I know that's met him, I know he gets a lot of weird press, but the guys that I know that know him say he's a really nice guy, really down to earth, really normal, really healthy. | ||
| And I've heard that about a lot of Trump's kids, which is really strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he's this crazy, you know, I'm the best, I do the best things, my ratings are the best. | ||
| But you would think that he would be like this dicky dad, but apparently he's done a great job as a dad, which is very strange, you know? | ||
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But that's what I hear about Donald Trump Jr. Yeah, I've heard that too. | |
| And he bowhunts, so he's got to be cool. | ||
| Maybe that's why he's cool. | ||
| That's probably it. | ||
| I mean, it might have something to do with it, for real. | ||
| It's just all those experiences in the wild. | ||
| Well, no, and just today. | ||
| So we've shot a lot of air. | ||
| I mean, I've been doing this for 30 years. | ||
| You've been doing this for years now. | ||
| And still, it's so humbling. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, there's, you know, it's not easy making a good shot. | ||
| Yeah, every now and then, one goes right into the neck of the target, and you're like, what the fuck? | ||
| I've been doing this all day. | ||
| And one just, doink, just goes wrong. | ||
| You talk about ego checks. | ||
| I mean, anytime you think you're good at archery, for sure, there's a wake-up call. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is not easy. | ||
| It's not an easy thing to do. | ||
| And then, also, it's like... | ||
| Waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, stalking, stalking, stalking, looking for him. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, here comes the time! | ||
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Ready? | |
| Get ready! | ||
| Pull a shot! | ||
| Now? | ||
| Is it really happening? | ||
| And then you have to execute a great shot under this insane, tremendous... | ||
| Have you done bowhunting yet? | ||
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Yep. | |
| What have you bowhunted? | ||
| Deer. | ||
| Have you been successful? | ||
| I have. | ||
| That's a nice thing, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What kind? | ||
| Blacktail? | ||
| Yeah, in California. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| And it is like very, like you said, it's totally in the pocket. | ||
| All of a sudden, it's now an adrenaline, adrenaline, and then you're, you know, it's over because you either missed the shot or you didn't take it. | ||
| And you're like... | ||
| You know what they say, Cam? | ||
| That there's a direct correlation between lower heart rate and good archery. | ||
| That there's actually been studies done, you know, like in these European circles where there are target archers. | ||
| And one of the things they've found to improve... | ||
| Dudley was talking about this on his podcast, Knock On... | ||
| On his podcast, he was talking about that running, in particular, is really good at lowering your heart rate, obviously, but then also the side effect of that is it improves archery, and it improves your ability under pressure to keep your heart rate down, because your heart rate is naturally lower. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, your resting heart rate's gotta be stupid low. | ||
| Like, what is it? | ||
| I don't know, 40s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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40s? | |
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought mine was good in, like, you know, 55 or something. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what Michael Bisping's is? | ||
| 34. Yeah. | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| Savage. | ||
| Most good marathon runners are low 40s. | ||
| You know, upper 30s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when you have that going for you, like say if your heart rate gets jacked up and you calm it down, you're probably still going to be like within the 60s or 70s. | ||
| Whereas a guy who's like some fucking bubba with some big sloppy gut and, you know, and he's taking rip fuel just so he can get up to the top of the mountain. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When he gets up there and sees something, he's like... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's tired. | ||
| He's winded. | ||
| His heart rate's already jacked and it's harder to execute a good shot under those... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I mean, just like with running and exercising, you recover faster, the better shape you're in. | ||
| So yeah, that's kind of why, I mean, it can go, it can peak, but then it's back low, normal, and then you're more composed. | ||
| So I mean, you know, it takes a while for those guys to recover if they're not in shape. | ||
| After all my years of exercising, I've just started running. | ||
| We're running today. | ||
| We're running today. | ||
| We're running the trails today after this. | ||
| I'm trying to keep up with this. | ||
| You're trying to keep up with him? | ||
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Ridiculous. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| He told me that. | ||
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It's okay. | |
| Not for me, buddy. | ||
| It's like doing jiu-jitsu with Hickson. | ||
| You know you're going to get killed. | ||
| Just go out there and do it. | ||
| Don't be a pussy. | ||
| How many miles are you guys going to do today? | ||
| Probably 20 or 30. If he can make that. | ||
| No, just kidding. | ||
| You're kidding, right? | ||
| He's got weird shoes on. | ||
| Honestly, seriously, Addy, if you're training for 230 miles, how many do you do a day? | ||
| Yeah, well... | ||
| Because you can't do a marathon every day, right? | ||
| You kill yourself. | ||
| He was doing a half marathon every day. | ||
| Yeah, at least. | ||
| You know, there's days, or I mean, there's weeks getting ready for the Bigfoot that I ran 130, 140 miles. | ||
| So that's almost 20 miles a day. | ||
| In the Bigfoot, it's 205 miles over, what did you do, 78 hours? | ||
| 78.56. | ||
| Did you see that ultramarathon guy who finished six seconds past the deadline? | ||
| Oh, Barkley. | ||
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Did you see that? | |
| The Barkley Marathon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fucked up. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He took a detour. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That race, they've been sending me messages, and they tagged, I don't know if it was both of us, but the other day I did a tweet. | ||
| Somebody mentioned my name for it. | ||
| And so the race actually tweeted and said that I wouldn't be able to finish because I'd want to get up in a tree stand and kill some of the wild pigs running around. | ||
| Is there a lot of pigs? | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
| I didn't know this. | ||
| But so that Barkley Marathon itself tweeted that. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| Tennessee. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That place is infested, apparently. | ||
| Yeah, Tennessee. | ||
| So it's... | ||
| God, there's a whole story behind it. | ||
| I wish I knew it because I'm going to sound stupid. | ||
| But there's a prison there. | ||
| And I can't remember who was in the prison. | ||
| Some famous criminal killed somebody or tried to kill somebody. | ||
| Anyway, escaped. | ||
| And he made it... | ||
| Was out for 55 hours, something like that. | ||
| Made it just eight miles and... | ||
| They got them. | ||
| So that's kind of how the race originated. | ||
| There's a story behind it. | ||
| So the race is there around that prison in that same country. | ||
| And so the goal, the time limit is something around that 55 hours. | ||
| And you have five loops. | ||
| You go one way, the first loop, opposite, opposite, opposite. | ||
| And you have... | ||
| And the course isn't marked, so you're navigating with a map that you have to create yourself. | ||
| And to get the checkpoints, there's books there at every checkpoint, and you have a certain number of the page, and they say, you go and pull out page 12 of every book, this is how it works, and then you bring it back to make sure, and they check you when you get the lap completed and say, okay, you hit every checkpoint, here's all the pages of those books, and then you do another lap. | ||
| But what if you run with some douchebag who's like, fuck page three. | ||
| I'm pulling his page out, too. | ||
| Page seven could suck my ass. | ||
| He just starts pulling people's pages out. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| You know, there's honor in... | ||
| If somebody's working that hard, you usually don't have to worry. | ||
| They respect other people working that hard, too. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's just kind of the... | ||
| The honor system. | ||
| The culture of it, yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, I wouldn't worry about something like that, but it sounds like a brutal race. | ||
| I think only, it might be up to 15 people now have completed it in 25 years. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| It's tough. | ||
| And this guy missed it by six seconds? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ, because he fucked up and made an error in his path? | ||
| Something happened, and I didn't read the whole story, but yeah. | ||
| So you have to do it inside of 60 hours, is that what it is? | ||
| Something like that, yeah. | ||
| And he was like 60 hours and six seconds or something like that. | ||
| It says when he was going around the race, he came to a staircase, and there's no staircases in the marathon, so he knew he fucked up then. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| He was super sleep-deprived. | ||
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He knew he made a wrong turn. | |
| He was two miles from the end of the race. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And there's no course. | ||
| So you just run in the woods? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Sounds ridiculous. | ||
| So they have the map up there, the topo map up there. | ||
| And you create your own map off that map. | ||
| And you can't use a map. | ||
| You can't use a phone. | ||
| You can't use a GPS. So there's navigating as part of this thing. | ||
| When are you doing it? | ||
| I want to do it. | ||
| I know you do, you fuck. | ||
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I can tell. | |
| To get entered, that's a whole process in itself. | ||
| You have to send a letter. | ||
| And $1.47, something like that, into the race director, and they select who they want in there. | ||
| And then you have to bring a license plate from your home state and a shirt to the guy, and then you're in. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So there's, I mean, a lot of crazy, I don't know, it's just a history trip. | ||
| Can you give him a Keep Hammerin' shirt? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Or does it have to be a specific shirt? | ||
| I think he chooses, I don't know, I need to, I watched a documentary, but I don't remember every detail. | ||
| Are you doing some really nutty one soon? | ||
| Well, I need to talk to Candice about it, the race director of the Bigfoot. | ||
| She's putting on the Moab. | ||
| It's a 234 mile race. | ||
| This will be the first one. | ||
| It's the longest one there is. | ||
| So you're going to do what you did, the Bigfoot 200, which is 205 miles, and then... | ||
| You're going to do another 29 miles. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| I need to run a buyer. | ||
| It was successful last time. | ||
| A lot of people followed along, which is what we wanted. | ||
| When you were running? | ||
| Yeah, with the live tracking. | ||
| It was cool because the race is so special. | ||
| She's so special as far as her passion for this and creating these opportunities for people to really test themselves. | ||
| She was on your podcast. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm a big fan of hers. | ||
| What's her last name? | ||
| Candice Burt. | ||
| And the key parameter number what? | ||
| Do you remember which number was it? | ||
| No. | ||
| Four or five was it? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
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Okay. | |
| People will find it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it was good, though, because she's super cool. | ||
| And so she's putting on this new one in Moab, and it's further than any other race, and so I want to do it, but... | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Race number three, Moab 200. Why do they call them 200s when they're 234? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's like the Bigfoot thing. | ||
| Call it Bigfoot 205, goddammit. | ||
| 205 miles. | ||
| I feel like 34 miles is a little too far just to round down. | ||
| It's a weird number. | ||
| It's got a nice ring to it, 200. How about the Moab 250? | ||
| That's closer if you're going to round. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| It's better. | ||
| It sounds better. | ||
| Yeah, it's a 234.3. | ||
| If you run 234 miles, an extra 16, probably just like, who cares? | ||
| I'm already dead. | ||
| It's a long way. | ||
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It's a lot. | |
| But look at that country. | ||
| Doesn't that look beautiful? | ||
| It does. | ||
| But it's going to be in July, isn't it? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| October. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So that's not bad. | ||
| You'll be fairly cool. | ||
| Now, you were saying that when you do one of these things, you don't sleep. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, you slept, like, maybe an hour a couple of times? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's how... | ||
| You know, if you want to win, the guy who won, Richard, Total Beast... | ||
| I was asking how long, because my goal was to win. | ||
| You know, I didn't achieve my goal. | ||
| My goal was to, I wanted to get the fastest ever. | ||
| So I came up short on that. | ||
| What place did you place? | ||
| I finished eighth. | ||
| Yeah, so I was winning through 62 miles, I think, and Richard passed me. | ||
| Fuck Richard. | ||
| No, he's a stud. | ||
| But I was asking, I'm like, how long had he been sleeping at these checkpoints? | ||
| And they said 15 minutes. | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| So I decided I wasn't going to sleep until I got 100 miles done. | ||
| I wanted to get at least halfway done. | ||
| So I got to 100 miles. | ||
| Slept for about an hour and got up. | ||
| And then I ended up sleeping for three hours total over the 78 hours. | ||
| So you sleep about an hour a day if you want to, if your hope is to compete to win or to, you know, place high like I wanted to. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| You just can't sleep. | ||
| You don't have any interest in doing that? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| I told you yesterday I said absolutely no fucking way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Takes a rare kind of kook. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just, you know, it's a different type of test just to see what you're capable of. | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'm just not that into running. | ||
| Do you run at all? | ||
| Like this morning, I ran the treadmill before I hit the weights, but just to warm up because there was nothing in the gym I was at, but not really. | ||
| You can go with us. | ||
| Later. | ||
| Maybe I'll come with you guys. | ||
| Yeah, fuck Conan O'Brien. | ||
| Let's run to Conan. | ||
| Can we run to... | ||
| Fuck Conan. | ||
| You'd be breathing brake dust. | ||
| I say we run there and then shoot bows there. | ||
| This is what we really should be concentrating on. | ||
| Isn't he like 10 foot tall? | ||
| He's a big guy. | ||
| Very tall guy. | ||
| Super nice guy. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very nice guy. | ||
| When somebody was on his show, you went with him, right? | ||
| Sturgill. | ||
| Sturgill Simpson. | ||
| Yeah, I went and hang out with him down there. | ||
| Did he win a Grammy? | ||
| This year? | ||
| Yeah, he won a Grammy. | ||
| Yeah, that's awesome. | ||
| He's another guy that's like a super famous, super successful guy that you would never know if you met him. | ||
| It's just as normal as they get. | ||
| Yeah, he's fucking working on a railroad car. | ||
| Like he was working for a train company just like a couple of years before he made it. | ||
| His wife talked him into doing music. | ||
| She was like, you know, you don't suck at this. | ||
| Well, that's what shocked me about when I met Cameron. | ||
| We came out in the conversation. | ||
| He's still working for... | ||
| Utility. | ||
| Utility company. | ||
| Dude, I've been trying to get him to quit for two years. | ||
| I was like, you're a professional hunter. | ||
| And I was like, you do all this great stuff. | ||
| I follow you. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| And he's like, yeah, I still have this other job. | ||
| And I'm like, wow. | ||
| I was like super, you know, I was... | ||
| I've been trying to get him to quit. | ||
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Forever. | |
| How many times have I tried to get you to quit? | ||
| Today? | ||
| About 10 today. | ||
| He's like, let's go to Hawaii. | ||
| We can hunt there. | ||
| They've got all sorts of axes deer. | ||
| It's going to be awesome. | ||
| So that's in June. | ||
| I'm going. | ||
| I'm trying to drag him along because I have to quit my job. | ||
| I'm like, good, we killed two birds with one stone. | ||
| I know, so it's like, yeah. | ||
| You're going to go with Shane Dorian or something? | ||
| Yeah, Shane's going to be down there. | ||
| My friend Remy Warren's going to be down there. | ||
| John Dudley's going to be down there. | ||
| She'll be a gay old time. | ||
| Flintstone style. | ||
| Hey, man, if you've got an extra spot. | ||
| You want to go? | ||
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For real? | |
| I'd love to, yeah. | ||
| I'll see if we can make something happen. | ||
| I'll see if we can make something happen. | ||
| I'll find out what's going on. | ||
| But apparently Lanai, in particular, well, they say Maui. | ||
| Remy Warren just got back from Maui. | ||
| Maui's got good on the south side. | ||
| Yeah, they've got a lot down there. | ||
| So have you hunted there too? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, we never did. | ||
| Where have you hunted? | ||
| In south here, mostly in the Southern California area. | ||
| When you were hunting, were you still hunting spot and stalk? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| No, just knowing the areas with a friend who knew the areas and walking and flushing them out. | ||
| And you were doing it with that Ross bow? | ||
| Why are you laughing? | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that. | ||
| He's just a little bit self-conscious about the roster. | ||
| Nothing's wrong with it. | ||
| That thing was a good book. | ||
| Hey, it killed a deer, apparently. | ||
| Well, now that you have a Hoyt, though... | ||
| Yeah, that thing's the most balanced. | ||
| I mean, you feel immediately... | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| Those new ones are so good. | ||
| It's so crazy because the first one Cam ever got me was only four years ago. | ||
| And you would think like, wow, that's pretty recent. | ||
| And it was awesome at the time. | ||
| But if you had to go back to it today, it'd be like, oh, this piece of shit. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| But bow technology just keeps increasing. | ||
| Every year they get a little better. | ||
| A little bit better. | ||
| A little bit better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And you might not know... | ||
| Because I always say, I try not to be the guy who's like, oh, this is the best thing I've ever shot. | ||
| But it's slightly better. | ||
| And as we know, in hunting, there's a fine line between success and failure. | ||
| So that slightly better might be the difference. | ||
| You know a lot more. | ||
| I'm an amateur in comparison. | ||
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I did out-shoot him a couple times yesterday. | |
| Did you really? | ||
| He did a couple times. | ||
| He's like, you're taking a liberty. | ||
| A liberty there. | ||
| I remember a time. | ||
| Well, that is the beautiful thing about archery is that there really is no perfection in archery. | ||
| I mean, you can get a perfect shot, but to be perfect every time you shoot has never been done, really. | ||
| Well, I will say... | ||
| By the end of the day, we were out there in the parking lot of Riverside Archery. | ||
| We had a 46-yard shot. | ||
| And Scott was laying them in there. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Nice, tight group. | ||
| We were shooting three arrows at a time. | ||
| And that's just in a day with that new bow. | ||
| That new bow, yeah. | ||
| Cam and I were talking about this today. | ||
| If people knew how good it feels to steady yourself, anchor, look through that peep sight, breathe, release that arrow, watch it... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right where you're... | ||
| It's the best feeling. | ||
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It is. | |
| It feels so good. | ||
| Well, we filmed today, and so I took a shot at 61 yards with my big old heavy arrow, and I shot, and I run up to the binoculars, and I look, and it was a perfect shot, and I was so excited. | ||
| It was the first time I ever shot a bow. | ||
| And that was not... | ||
| That's just how fun it is. | ||
| This is how excited I still get, and we're just... | ||
| And people... | ||
| I told Joe, I said, if people knew this, or I mean, they're going to watch this and go... | ||
| I want to do that. | ||
| That looks awesome. | ||
| If you're, after 30 years, you're getting this excited, it's just, love it. | ||
| We were talking about this today, and I want to bring this up, and I think Hoyt should do this. | ||
| The big entry barrier in learning archery is having someone teach you and, like, going somewhere and not knowing how to get started. | ||
| Like, once you get started and you say, oh, I'm a 28-inch draw, oh, I like a 450-grain anchor. | ||
| And you know all the stuff that you need, then it becomes easier to sort of do. | ||
| But the beginning, it's so daunting and confusing. | ||
| The learning curve is so long. | ||
| They should have, like Hoyt should have a Hoyt Academy, or a place you can go where you could buy a bow, they size you, they fit you up to the correct draw length, and then you sign up for a class, and there's a teacher, and they show you how to do it. | ||
| If there was something like that, where it's like You know, you can go take karate somewhere. | ||
| You can go take jujitsu somewhere. | ||
| Go try to take archery somewhere. | ||
| There's not a lot of places. | ||
| And if they are, you know, like the first place that I went to was a little fucking sketchy. | ||
| You know, they weren't, they didn't really, you know, my draw length was too long. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good pro shops are hard to find. | ||
| I'm lucky with the bow rack back home. | ||
| And Wayne does that. | ||
| Wayne teaches them ride. | ||
| He coaches them. | ||
| And it seemed like Riverside Archery was that Chris there. | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| And totally knows archery, too. | ||
| But those might be unique examples because there's a lot of pro shops. | ||
| I mean, this guy who works with Under Armour is telling me about his pro shop back home. | ||
| They like... | ||
| We're almost making fun of him. | ||
| Actually, not him, but his cousin was in there trying to get set up with a bow. | ||
| He didn't know. | ||
| You never know what you're going to get. | ||
| There's all sorts of different type of people out there. | ||
| I pulled up to the hotel to come up to LA because I had to do some press. | ||
| I opened up the hotel at the Hotel Bel Air, and I opened up the door of my truck, and all the field tips come out, and the bellman's looking at me going, what the fuck are you doing with compound bows in the car in L.A.? Yeah, they don't know how to handle that. | ||
| If you were in Cam's neighborhood, they'd be like, oh, are you bow hunting? | ||
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Out here, they're like, what is this guy doing? | |
| Yeah, he's going to kill somebody. | ||
| Probably right? | ||
| Or you're a big Walking Dead fan. | ||
| Yeah, that show drives me crazy when those arrows just stick in those zombie heads. | ||
| I'm like, why do they just stick? | ||
| How come there's no pass-throughs? | ||
| You know, and that's on Fighter and the Kid yesterday. | ||
| They're asking about that. | ||
| They're like, what would an arrow do? | ||
| Would it go halfway in like in the movies? | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| And I'm like, it wouldn't even... | ||
| You wouldn't even feel it. | ||
| It wouldn't even slow down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It'd be like... | ||
| And I told them about the... | ||
| We put up this bear clip. | ||
| Joe, before we... | ||
| I think before we realize the venom that'll come out of... | ||
| of bear hunting but Joe retweeted the video of this bear stood up and was grabbing this beaver up there and I shot it and we had a GoPro on the backside of it and the arrow went through the bear came out the backside and it was just like didn't even slow down no I mean and just kind of all this stuff kind of came out with the arrow just like what was the sound That's the sound the arrow made going through the bear. | ||
| It just blasts through the bear's body, and then the bear went on a full sprint. | ||
| Almost right where you guys were, just slightly off to your right. | ||
| If you've never seen a bear sprint before, when you see them lumber around, you go, oh, well, I kind of get an idea what that thing can do. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, that thing is like Usain Bolt when you threw an arrow through it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that, so, that's a 400-pound bear. | ||
| So you can imagine what, you know, Brian was asking about, what is he, 160 pounds, something like that? | ||
| Brian, he's about 110. Maybe 106, somewhere around there. | ||
| But anyway, I told him, I said, yeah, these bows wouldn't even slow down. | ||
| You wouldn't even know what it, I mean. | ||
| You would be too late. | ||
| It would go through you and then you'd go, what just happened? | ||
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Oh, why am I, why do I see grandpa? | |
| Yeah, so Walking Dead. | ||
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Grandpa. | |
| Grandpa's reaching out and holding your hand. | ||
| I missed that one. | ||
| Taking on a skateboard through the clouds. | ||
| But yeah, so with The Walking Dead, you got some rotten zombie head and the arrows are just sticking in it. | ||
| Speaking of near-death experience, I wanted to ask you this because I listen to your podcast a lot and you talk about... | ||
| DMT and some of the stuff you see when it produces in your mind or you produce it in your body, right? | ||
| Is that the chemical that you release when you die or when you have a near-death experience? | ||
| They believe so. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| They didn't know for sure until really recently that it was even produced by the pineal gland. | ||
| Now that they know, there's a guy named Rick Strassman, Dr. Rick Strassman out of the University of New Mexico. | ||
| And he put together these clinical trials that were the first ever FDA approved clinical trials on a psychedelic drug. | ||
| First ever on DMT and they were done in New Mexico and he did them and he wrote a book about it called DMT the spirit molecule and one of the things that he found it's a great book and one of the things he found really fascinating and I read the book before I ever did DMT the thing that he found really fascinating was that these people had used uniform experiences and It wasn't like one person saw this thing and then another person had a totally different trip. | ||
| No. | ||
| They all had like fairly uniform experiences. | ||
| And here's the other thing that's really fascinating. | ||
| Their experiences in many ways mirror the experiences of people that have been abducted by aliens. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And people that have near-death experiences. | ||
| And the connection, they think, is that the brain produces this chemical called dimethyltryptamine. | ||
| And we know that it's produced by the liver. | ||
| We know that it's produced by the lungs. | ||
| And then in Eastern mysticism, it always thought that the pineal gland was the seed of the soul. | ||
| That it was the third eye. | ||
| And literally, in reptiles, it has a retina and a cornea. | ||
| And actually, it's like literally an eyeball in the center of your head. | ||
| And in the Vatican, there's a gigantic sculpture of a pine cone in the Vatican. | ||
| And that pine cone is supposed to represent the pineal gland. | ||
| See if you can get a photo of that gigantic pine cone. | ||
| And I was actually in the Vatican last summer, and I had a conversation with a guide. | ||
| We had this really cool guide. | ||
| He was a professor. | ||
| Who's explaining to us all the different stuff that, you know, it's all the different symbolisms and what they mean. | ||
| Eastern mysticism and a lot of ancient religions have always been heavily focused on the pine cone and pineal gland. | ||
| And that is what that's supposed to represent, that gigantic... | ||
| Pinecone in the middle of- And I hear there's something now, like people smoke pinecone or there's some- Really? | ||
| People, yeah, there's some- People smoke socks if you give them to them. | ||
| Some people are assholes. | ||
| No, but I heard that. | ||
| I mean, I heard that now that there's some sort of... | ||
| Because DMT is like a plant, right? | ||
| It's plant-based, right? | ||
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| That is the thing, is that the DMT doesn't just exist in one plant. | ||
| It exists in thousands of different plants. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's why they have ayahuasca. | ||
| And what ayahuasca is, is an orally active DMT. So DMT, normally when you eat it, your body produces something in your digestive tract called monoamine oxidase. | ||
| It blocks it, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so what ayahuasca is, is DMT from one plant and an MAO inhibitor from another plant. | ||
| And they combine it together and they create an orally active DMT. Because otherwise, you'd just be tripping every time you eat a salad. | ||
| You get some wheatgrass juice, you chip your balls off, but your body keeps that from happening. | ||
| But the purpose of that DMT and what it does in human neurochemistry is not really understood that well. | ||
| But what they do know now because of Rick Strassman and the work of the Cottonwood Research Foundation, which is a foundation that's dedicated to exploring these subjects, they've found that in live rats, Rats or mice, I forget which one, that they've proven that their pineal gland is producing dimethyltryptamine, which is what they've always, it's always been anecdotal evidence. | ||
| So now they know that it's not just produced by the liver and the lungs, but it's also produced by this little gland. | ||
| And this little gland, they think, during near-death experiences and during heavy REM sleep, it's producing DMT. How much? | ||
| They don't really know. | ||
| Because they would have to get in there, and they'd have to somehow or another figure out a way to measure it while you're alive. | ||
| They haven't figured out how to do that yet because it's in the center of your head. | ||
| They'd have to drill in there and tap it. | ||
| Who knows how the fuck they could do that with today's technology, but maybe someday in the future they'll be able to figure that out. | ||
| No, I've been fascinated by it ever since listening to you talk about it and then watching your documentary. | ||
| DMT, the spirit molecule. | ||
| That was all based on Strassman's work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| I mean, I tried it one time, and it was unlike anything for the 10 minutes I've ever experienced in my entire life. | ||
| And so it was, you know, after that, I've obviously read all the stuff. | ||
| What's interesting is I think no one will probably ever know. | ||
| Until you do it. | ||
| Or no, I just mean, there's something, there's a phenomenon happening that we just, as humans, can't possibly understand, and maybe we'll never understand in our lifetime. | ||
| Well, you know, there's two different ways of looking at it. | ||
| One is that it's a human neurochemistry, and that it's a chemical that is just producing these crazy visuals, and it's just all the meaning that you attach to it is just your own. | ||
| And then the other way of looking at it is it's some sort of a chemical gateway into the afterlife. | ||
| And that what you're seeing is like the souls of these people that have lived before and all the people that have ever lived, like a sea of souls. | ||
| And I don't know what, who's right or who's wrong, but it's impossible to describe. | ||
| Like you describe it, it's just like you're just throwing words around. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's produced by your own body. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing. | ||
| Everybody has it. | ||
| Terrence McKenney used to do a joke about it. | ||
| He said, everybody's holding. | ||
| It's a Schedule I compound, but everybody tests positive for it. | ||
| It's illegal, but you have it. | ||
| Is it illegal? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| How do they decide whether it's going to be illegal if it's a plant-based thing? | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| That is the problem. | ||
| The plants that all contain it are all legal. | ||
| They are all legal. | ||
| And then it's illegal. | ||
| But it's in all these legal plants. | ||
| But it's in thousands of plants. | ||
| That's part of the problem. | ||
| It's like, you can have a San Pedro cactus and keep it in your house. | ||
| And everybody's like, what's that? | ||
| They're like, oh, it's a pretty cactus. | ||
| Yeah, but it's also, there's drugs in that fucking cactus. | ||
| I mean, that's where mescaline comes from. | ||
| It comes from that. | ||
| I didn't know anything about it. | ||
| Yeah, trip your balls off from a fucking cactus. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the peyote rituals. | ||
| That's from a cactus. | ||
| That's a San Pedro cactus. | ||
| Is mescaline the same thing as peyote? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think, see if you can Google that, Jamie. | ||
| I believe that peyote and mescaline are in some way. | ||
| That's the slang or something for it. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, mescaline occurs naturally in the peyote cactus. | ||
| Yeah, so you could have that cactus in your house, and you're basically a drug dealer. | ||
| But meanwhile, you're not. | ||
| You're a little old lady who enjoys succulents. | ||
| You know, like, oh, it's such a pretty cactus. | ||
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I love it. | |
| I can go out of town for a week and come back, and it's fine. | ||
| Yeah, so that's a really cool-looking cactus that people keep in their yard all the time in LA. Like, one of the things in LA, because of the drought that we have for so many years until this year, which is awesome, everything looks like New Zealand out there now. | ||
| Yeah, it is nice. | ||
| But people would have these hardscapes in their yards where they would just have rocks and succulents and cactus. | ||
| So there's a lot of people that have those cactuses. | ||
| That cactus, you could go meet Jesus with that cactus. | ||
| Have you done it? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I've never done peyote. | ||
| Yeah, that seems like a long time though, right? | ||
| It's one of the longer ones, I think. | ||
| I think it's a few hours. | ||
| But so is ayahuasca. | ||
| You know, I haven't done that either. | ||
| I've only done the DMT. DMT is like a shorter, more potent form of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I've done it several times over the course of an evening where it's been like a couple hour experience. | ||
| Do you feel like it's... | ||
| I mean, obviously, you know, people who have done it, they know it's not something that you're doing recreationally. | ||
| It's something that's like, okay, you do this this one time. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Or, you know, a couple times. | ||
| It's not like you're out. | ||
| Going to the club. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's a very spiritual sort of thing you do. | ||
| That word spiritual is so beaten down. | ||
| It's one of those words that I don't even like to use. | ||
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| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like so many people are like, I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual. | ||
| It almost seems like... | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I got a spiritual gangster show I'm about to throw away as soon as I get home. | ||
| Joe Rogan says it's not cool. | ||
| Well, it's not that it's not cool. | ||
| It's just it's kind of been co-opted by nonsense. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, and not even nonsense intentionally. | ||
| I mean, people say that they, like, they'll say things and they don't mean anything. | ||
| It's not that they're lying or they're being deceptive. | ||
| It's just that it's such a problematic word. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| What I mean, I guess I can say better, is it's It's an experience that, you know, is something that's very powerful. | ||
| It's very profound. | ||
| Yeah, it's profound. | ||
| And you want to sort of do it and talk about it and have a collective sort of discussion about it, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's also, there's also a real problem with perception, especially amongst people that haven't experienced psychedelic drugs, that when you say the word drug, or you say psychedelic compounds maybe, because when you say the word drug, people automatically have in their head, oh, you're a weak person, you're trying to hide from reality. | ||
| You know, you're trying to shield yourself, you're just trying to get high and just lay around like, I don't even want to be here, man. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Couldn't be further from the truth. | ||
| It's like one of the most self-exploratory and deeply disturbing in its profound and powerful effects. | ||
| It's very shocking. | ||
| And you leave it, once it's over, you're a different person, man. | ||
| Now that you know that that's a real possibility, you're going to be a different person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I was. | ||
| Maybe you won't. | ||
| I mean, it depends on how you're coming into it and then what kind of defense mechanisms you have, what kind of ego you have, whether or not you can just realize, like, now that you've seen this, you know that life will never be the same again. | ||
| You're always going to know that that's a possibility, that you can smoke this crystal powder that's extracted from plants And when you smoke it, you're transported to a world of love and understanding and geometric patterns of Infinite description to the point where like you can't even describe you know You don't even know what you're looking at while you're looking at it It's just so beyond like lifts the veil know what we think is reality Yeah, and it might be heaven. | ||
| It might be the afterlife It really might be it might be there might be a reason why people think that heaven is filled with ultimate love Because people have had near-death experiences and they've come back with these stories and during those near-death experiences It's entirely possible not just speculative not just like it might absolutely be That your brain is producing this dimethyltryptamine that it already produces in high doses and that's what it's there for. | ||
| We don't know, you know? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But you've done it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of people have done it now. | ||
| I know. | ||
| More people than ever. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| In history, for sure. | ||
| For sure, more people listening to this now have experienced DMT than probably at any time in human history. | ||
| And yeah, I tell people when they ask, you know, if you haven't done it, you should do it. | ||
| Because it's mind-opening. | ||
| You know, you go, whoa, okay. | ||
| You realize it's humbling, I think, too. | ||
| There's a lot we don't understand that's happening. | ||
| And then we may never understand and and to be so close-minded to think we know One path or the other what's the right thing or the wrong thing? | ||
| This is really arrogant. | ||
| It's very ego-shattering It's very ego-shattering and it also once you know that that's possible It's like how is that possible? | ||
| How is it possible that you're just 30 seconds away from that at any time? | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You've never experienced it. | ||
| No. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I get drug tested at work. | ||
| He drinks Miller Lite, though. | ||
| Well, I don't think it's even... | ||
| That wouldn't even come up on a drug test. | ||
| It's a plant-based, right? | ||
| No, it wouldn't come up at all. | ||
| It wouldn't even come up on a drug test. | ||
| Your body tests positive for it. | ||
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Always. | |
| Because you have it in your system. | ||
| Okay, let's do it. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| It's back home. | ||
| Just kidding. | ||
| We've got to go into a vault. | ||
| Michael Bisping is going to get mad at us. | ||
| Why? | ||
| He was mad that you were talking about smoking pot all the time. | ||
| Really? | ||
| When? | ||
| A couple days ago. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Why was he mad at that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's silly. | ||
| Why would anybody be mad at that? | ||
| Potts were awesome. | ||
| Settle down, Mike. | ||
| He talks about drinking beer all the time. | ||
| Mike's always drunk. | ||
| He did this whole thing where he's talking about being in Vegas and he was talking to GSP and GSP is like, you're drunk. | ||
| He goes, of course I'm drunk. | ||
| I'm in Vegas. | ||
| He goes, I just got here. | ||
| I was drinking last night. | ||
| He said he doesn't put up all the time that he's drinking beer. | ||
| Did you see this, Jamie? | ||
| Why can't GSP drink beer? | ||
| No, Bisping was drunk. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And GSP called him out on it. | ||
| Like, he said, like, you smell like alcohol. | ||
| He's like, yeah, I was drinking all night. | ||
| The fuck's wrong with you? | ||
| I'm in Vegas. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Well, why would Bisping be upset that I talk about beer, or I talk about pot when he's always talking about beer? | ||
| That's silly. | ||
| Maybe that's not true. | ||
| You sure? | ||
| Jamie. | ||
| You find that? | ||
| Jamie's gonna find it. | ||
| He's talking about you and... | ||
| He's probably just making fun of me. | ||
| You and Diaz. | ||
| Nick Diaz? | ||
| He's probably trying to get a fight with Nick Diaz. | ||
| That's probably what it is. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe he's angling for a fight. | ||
| I figured you would have seen it. | ||
| No, I love Michael. | ||
| I think he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That guy's tough as shit, man. | ||
| Can't even see out of one eye. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's got one eye that's all fucked up. | ||
| They did an operation on it and then filled it up with oil so that the retina doesn't rupture again. | ||
| So he's fighting GSP. When is that? | ||
| Do we know when? | ||
| They do not have a date. | ||
| They're trying to figure it out. | ||
| But Bisping has said that if GSP can't make it by July, he'll fight somebody else. | ||
| So he might fight Joel Romero. | ||
| How old is GSP now? | ||
| Michael Bisping blasts Joe Rogan and Nick Diaz for positively promoting cannabis. | ||
| Told ya! | ||
| But that might not be real. | ||
| Like, you know, by saying blasts, you'd have to hear, like, what he actually said. | ||
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I can't tell what it's from. | |
| It's all clickbait nowadays. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So you might have just seen that. | ||
| It might have literally been, ah, he's probably hanging out with Joe Rogan. | ||
| You know, like one of those things. | ||
| Did you see that 60 Minutes on, and all the, you know, I know this word's a topical word. | ||
| It's a good picture of you. | ||
| Fake news or whatever. | ||
| You see the 60 Minutes on it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hashtag fake news. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you know, that word's sort of popular now because I think, I don't know, some people have said it and, you know, popular. | ||
| But it's amazing now, all the people profiting on it. | ||
| It really showcases. | ||
| You should check out the 60 Minutes. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| We've had it. | ||
| Do you remember the, you saved me from a bear attack? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I got attacked by a bear. | ||
| Joe shot the bear. | ||
| And there's a whole article. | ||
| That was all it was. | ||
| I got one that said I killed a mountain lion with my belt. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| At the Ice House in Pasadena. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Do you think that it's a... | ||
| I mean, all that stuff is pretty... | ||
| Do you think there should be controls over it? | ||
| Like, just outside of being, you know, the FCC being able to, like, sue people or whatever that never really happens, it feels like, do you think that it should be hard to control it? | ||
| I don't know, because then there's, like, things like The Onion. | ||
| It's like, when do you draw the line? | ||
| Because The Onion is hilarious. | ||
| So they'll make, like, a subtle parody of something and make it completely preposterous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then, like, pull up a good example of an Onion headline. | ||
| It's like, The Onion is a... | ||
| What do you say in The Onion? | ||
| What's The Onion? | ||
| Do you don't know what The Onion is? | ||
| The Onion is a famous parody news site where they make stories that just, if you're smart, you read it and you go, what? | ||
| Like Stephen Colbert or something? | ||
| He's making a parody on it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, in a way, yeah. | ||
| And most of them are pretty humorous, but occasionally people will tweet me with like an Onion story and like, can you fucking believe this shit, man? | ||
| It's getting out of control. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Dummy, this is comedy. | ||
| People don't have common sense. | ||
| So that's the problem with that clickbait stuff is they believe it. | ||
| Because they can't read it and be like, ah, that's probably whatever. | ||
| It's just like they believe everything. | ||
| Yeah, but isn't that the case with cults and the Moonies and Scientology? | ||
| There's a lot of nonsense that people believe in. | ||
| It's not hard to get people to believe in shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| Like, what do we do about it? | ||
| Do you leave it up to common sense, which isn't very common today? | ||
| No, that's fine. | ||
| Or do you step in? | ||
| Yeah, Rookie Justice Gorsuch, how do you say his name? | ||
| Assigned a Supreme Court overnight shift. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| See, because he's a new Supreme Court guy and they're giving him a shitty gig. | ||
| See, that's not real. | ||
| But if somebody read that, they're like, this is bullshit, these fucking liberals. | ||
| Just because he's a conservative, they're putting it... | ||
| Put them on the night shift. | ||
| There's no night shift. | ||
| Man tries using pink six-pound bowling ball to great amusement. | ||
| That's not real either. | ||
| See, it's like what they do. | ||
| They write these articles that are comedy. | ||
| But they pose as news, which is a little... | ||
| I think it's different, because if you're fiction and you're posing as... | ||
| As real news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, where do you... | ||
| Obviously, there's no more journalistic integrity, it feels like. | ||
| Well, there's some. | ||
| There's some. | ||
| There's some. | ||
| It just feels like there's... | ||
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How do you know? | |
| You read the news, you're misinformed. | ||
| You don't read it, you're misinformed. | ||
| You're not informed. | ||
| It's like, what do you do? | ||
| So have you been the topic of something? | ||
| Oh, I mean, no. | ||
| There's been fake stuff about me, for sure. | ||
| That's like my setting. | ||
| My dad said, you know, believe half what you see and none of what you hear. | ||
| I always laugh because there's always some silly thing. | ||
| My friends will come to me and say, hey, did you really do this? | ||
| No, I didn't do that. | ||
| Yeah, there's a ton of fake stuff out there. | ||
| There's a ton of fake stuff. | ||
| I'm sure there's a ton of stuff about you. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I just, one recently, I disarmed a guy at the comedy store. | ||
| Some guy had a gun and I disarmed him. | ||
| My buddy of mine was a cop, said, hey man, congratulations on that. | ||
| It's tough to do. | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| Good job. | ||
| What did I do? | ||
| You saved people's lives. | ||
| But you could ruin someone's life, you know, in a second. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh yeah, the wrong story. | ||
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In a way. | |
| They say the wrong word. | ||
| You know, someone says, all they gotta throw is allegedly or something. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Allegedly rape somebody or something. | ||
| You know, they ruin some poor guy's life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, reputation just out the... | ||
| Out the window. | ||
| Well, that's what they've always been able to do with those supermarket tabloids. | ||
| Allegedly, from a source. | ||
| A source tells us that Cam Haynes likes to... | ||
| Oh, be careful here. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Shoot bows. | ||
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Shoot... | |
| But yeah, it's great. | ||
| But you don't have to do much more than that, and you kind of cover your ass, and you say, I have to protect my sources, I have the First Amendment right, and it's a weird time. | ||
| And it's a weird time because essentially the boundaries to publication have been dissolved. | ||
| It used to be that you had to work for the New York Times, or the Washington Post, or a newspaper, whatever. | ||
| Now, all you need is a blog or a Facebook page, and you're breaking news, and just Scott Eastwood admits to wearing women's clothes while he hunts for deer. | ||
| That's gonna be on one. | ||
| Larry David, I wear women's underwear. | ||
| That's one of the best lines, though. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| It is definitely, you're right, it's definitely strange. | ||
| But I mean, but who's to decide? | ||
| I mean, I know they're trying to work on some ways to figure it out. | ||
| I know Facebook is working on some different ways to block Fake news, but who's to decide what's fake and what's real? | ||
| And who's to decide where it becomes parody? | ||
| When is it funny? | ||
| Like, when is it the onion, when it's pretty subtle? | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And when is it just like some guy making up a story about you, me saving you from a bear attack? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it's weird. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I don't know, I don't sweat it. | ||
| It's a tough one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not really, I'm really concerned. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yo, yeah. | ||
| Look, I mean, I'll sleep well at night. | ||
| I'll be okay, but, uh... | ||
| It's a weird sign of the times. | ||
| The times are weird. | ||
| We have weird times. | ||
| The ability to communicate where anybody can do anything at any time and everybody can find out about it. | ||
| You can write something on your Twitter page, just publish it, and then it gets to the right amount of people, and then they share it, and then all of a sudden a million people have seen it inside of an hour. | ||
| It's a moment. | ||
| No, it's crazy. | ||
| But it's good, too. | ||
| I mean, we've used that for our benefit. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| That's what you do all the time. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| Your voice. | ||
| I mean, it's made me have a voice. | ||
| You know, you've always had one, but me have one. | ||
| And so it's an amazing time, too. | ||
| Well, even my voice is way different now than having a podcast. | ||
| And that's much, in a lot of ways, the same thing. | ||
| Because it's just... | ||
| I mean, this is a pretty lean operation, obviously. | ||
| I was surprised. | ||
| Just a computer, you know, Jamie, to figure it out, and then we talk, and then you upload it, and that's it. | ||
| There's not a whole lot of steps, and yet this will probably get 5 million downloads, you know, maybe even more. | ||
| So it's weird. | ||
| It's weird in that sense, that it can reach so many different people, and then... | ||
| There's no corporation behind it. | ||
| There's no Washington Post. | ||
| So we could just sit here and just make up a bunch of fake shit and just be really adamant that this really happened. | ||
| A lot of people are going to believe it. | ||
| Could someone stop you from doing that? | ||
| I don't know if they could. | ||
| As long as you're not slandering anybody and you're not getting sued. | ||
| So what's your prediction if Biz Bing and GSP fight? | ||
| Very interesting fight. | ||
| Because Biz Bing's been a... | ||
| He's been a battler, a warrior for a long time. | ||
| He's been very active and he's a very well-honed machine right now. | ||
| Whereas GSP's been out of the loop for a solid three years. | ||
| No competition at all. | ||
| However, he's been training the entire time. | ||
| So GSP's not a guy who sits around and gets fat and gets nothing done. | ||
| No, he's constantly training. | ||
| But Then again, he stopped because he was having memory issues and head injury. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he got hit in the head 800 plus times over the course of his UFC career. | ||
| In that Hendricks fight, he got hit in the head about 10,000 times, it seemed like. | ||
| He was a mess after that fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's been a mess after a few fights. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, Carlos Condit head kicked him and knocked him down. | ||
| I mean, he's had some wars. | ||
| Matt Serra knocked him out, you know. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It feels like GSP, he's been the champion, but it doesn't feel like he doesn't have that champion respect for whatever reason. | ||
| Well, it's because his last fight with Hendrix was super close. | ||
| Yeah, we watched that here. | ||
| I did the fight companion. | ||
| No, not to that fight. | ||
| I was there for that fight. | ||
| Oh, you were? | ||
| Yeah, not Hendrix's last fight. | ||
| I'm talking about GSP's last fight. | ||
| Oh, I was talking about Bisbing and Hendrix. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Bisbing and Henderson. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Henderson. | ||
| That's when Eddie Bravo went full Tower 7. Eddie got super drunk, was worried the Illuminati was going to come and get us. | ||
| And I said knockouts were better than submissions, I think. | ||
| Well, a lot of people like it. | ||
| But GSP's last fight with Johnny Hendricks was super close. | ||
| Super close fight, and GSP retired with the belt. | ||
| Yeah, I thought he lost that fight. | ||
| A lot of people did. | ||
| Either way, it wasn't like this big victory. | ||
| It's not like the way he beat down BJ Penn and stopped him. | ||
| If he said, then I'm going to retire, I've had a great time, thank you very much. | ||
| Everybody would be like, yeah, we love you, George. | ||
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Right. | |
| But instead it was a close fight. | ||
| So people are like, hmm, I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know if he got the belt. | ||
| Maybe he should have went out with a loss there. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But don't you think Bisping doesn't have that championship type respect? | ||
| He does not right now. | ||
| And the reason he does not is because he defended against him. | ||
| Henderson wasn't really ranked that high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he really shouldn't have got a title shot, but it was a rematch of one of the most epic knockouts ever. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because Henderson flatlined him and then punched him in the head while he was down and flew through the air. | ||
| And that's Henderson's logo now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Henderson's logo is literally a silhouette of his body flying through the air, ready to drop a punch down on Bisping's unconscious body. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| And then who else has he defended? | ||
| Then he defended it. | ||
| After he did that, he... | ||
| Who the fuck did he just fight? | ||
| No, he's fighting GSP. That's the next fight. | ||
| So he defended it against Henderson, and then the next title defense is going to be against GSP. He didn't have one before Henderson? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He won the title by beating Luke Rockwell. | ||
| Oh, Luke, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Then he defended it against Dan Henderson, and now he's going to fight GSP. So the thought is, how is this guy getting two fights that aren't... | ||
| Right. | ||
| You look at Luke Rockhold, Yoel Romero, who's the number one contender, who's fucking terrifying. | ||
| Which he should get the shot, you think? | ||
| Yes, Yoel should get the shot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you look at it in terms of who's the most viable contender, who's the guy that you would think would be the most threatening guy, who's the guy that might be the uncrowned champion, you've got to go with Yoel Romero. | ||
| It feels like UFC is... | ||
| I think, you know, they're trying to find their way. | ||
| They're footing a little bit with no Ronda, no Conor. | ||
| So they're just going after that big, what can we sell a bunch of pay-per-views for? | ||
| And GSP's a big name. | ||
| No, go, please, go. | ||
| No, I was just going to ask, what's happening with Conor and that whole fight with... | ||
| Floyd Mayweather? | ||
| Yeah, is that happening? | ||
| They don't know. | ||
| It has not been worked out yet, so it's not definitive. | ||
| But there's so much money involved that they think they're going to make it happen. | ||
| And the UFC's got to come to an agreement. | ||
| Didn't he get in trouble with the UFC, though, Conor? | ||
| Didn't Conor... | ||
| For, I don't know, not saying something and coming out and saying something a while ago or get fined or something? | ||
| He got fined for throwing the water bottle monster energy thing. | ||
| Yeah, they fined him $150,000 and then they dropped it down. | ||
| I think they dropped it to like $35,000 or something like that. | ||
| He said he'd never fight in Vegas again after that. | ||
| And they're like, hey, relax. | ||
| Because if you can't go to New York, it's a debacle. | ||
| The big factor is another factor is also that the UFC was purchased by WME. That's an entertainment company. | ||
| Entertainment company is going to try to put on the biggest show they could put on. | ||
| And that's not necessarily like the number one ranked contender fighting for the title. | ||
| I think that it's an entertainment. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It's a business. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| But it is also... | ||
| It's extremely important that you honor the hierarchy of champion and top challenger. | ||
| I think that's critical. | ||
| Well, you work your way up. | ||
| I mean, you pay your dues. | ||
| You work your way up. | ||
| You're ranked on... | ||
| Ability. | ||
| They're trying to manufacture big fights instead of letting big fights build themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Big fights evolve when you let a guy like Yoel Romero fight and he wins. | ||
| He beats Chris Wyman by knockout. | ||
| And then if he fights Michael Bisping, if Michael Bisping beats Yoel Romero, Michael Bisping becomes a superstar. | ||
| And it's a tough fight. | ||
| It's a real tough fight. | ||
| If Yoel Romero beats Michael Bisping, first of all, he looks like a goddamn superhero. | ||
| So that's easy to sell. | ||
| You know, you look at his highlight reel of smashing people to the fucking moon. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's a freak. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's one of the greatest wrestlers that's ever competed. | ||
| You know, he medaled in every single international competition he entered. | ||
| He beat Cale Sanderson, one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. | ||
| He beat him twice. | ||
| He's just a freak of freaks. | ||
| Do you know who Yoel Romero is? | ||
| Mm-mm. | ||
| Jamie, pull up a picture of Yoel Romero, because he doesn't even look real. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| He's like one of those guys who are like, what is that? | ||
| That's a person? | ||
| Is that a real person or a CGI person? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just so jacked. | ||
| Who did he... | ||
| Oh, he beat... | ||
| He beat everybody. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But in that last one with the flying knee... | ||
| Chris Weidman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He flatlined him. | ||
| Yeah, because it seemed like that whole fight, he wasn't really doing much. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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Jeez. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| That's a real person? | ||
| But he did this... | ||
| He did not look fun. | ||
| He's so jacked. | ||
| The fight against Chris Weidman was sort of like hanging in the balance. | ||
| And then he did some... | ||
| Flying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hit him in the side of the head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was just like, where did that come from? | ||
| Pull up that video that Yoel Romero KOs Chris Weidman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's an animated GIF of that. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| Go to the video. | ||
| It's fucking insane. | ||
| Like, look how even how he fucking flies when he lands. | ||
| No, but look how he turns around already and lands punches. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| How recent was this fight? | ||
| A couple months ago. | ||
| I was in Australia. | ||
| I don't think I saw it down there. | ||
| He's just a freak, man. | ||
| And it cut the biggest gash in the side of his head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See if you get a clear video of it. | ||
| Superman fly. | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| From like another angle. | ||
| But he's just a freak of nature and science. | ||
| He's capable of that at any second. | ||
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Boom! | |
| But the amount of force behind that, he's just flying through the air. | ||
| And that's so irregular, too. | ||
| It's kind of like the way Chuck Liddell used to hit, like real irregular, like a flying knee to your face. | ||
| Out of nowhere type thing. | ||
| Well, he's just so explosive. | ||
| So his ability to close the distance is stunning sometimes, and people aren't prepared for it because he's such an athlete. | ||
| But in that fight, it didn't feel like he had been doing much. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It felt like he was just kind of like, God, when is he going to get off? | ||
| It was a close fight, for sure. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, just some out of nowhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So whether or not Michael Bisping can beat him, who knows? | ||
| But you've got to give him a chance. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| He's a number. | ||
| He's going to give you all a chance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it seems, I don't know, it doesn't seem, life isn't fair, who cares? | ||
| But it doesn't seem fair that it's GSP. Well, the thing is, is it a sport, or is it entertainment? | ||
| I mean, you're just trying to put on a spectacle, or is it a sport? | ||
| And if it's a sport, if you're going to have the World Series, people play this guy to play that guy, and it gets to the World Series, and here's the World Series, folks, and this is, we've had all, this whole season, we've been building to this moment, and this is the hierarchy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's still huge. | ||
| No, if it's just a show, put three of them in there. | ||
| Put you all in there, too, with GSP and Michael's biz being. | ||
| I was saying that they should have, because you're dealing with a guy in GSP, he's been out for a long time, have him fight Nick Diaz. | ||
| He's been out for a long time, too. | ||
| Neither one of them is ranked. | ||
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Have both those guys. | |
| They fought before, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have a rematch. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| That'd get a ton of pay-per-views. | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| People love Diaz. | ||
| They love him. | ||
| I don't think people even know how much people love him. | ||
| I don't even know if the UFC knows how big of a star Nick and Nate are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sacramento, right? | ||
| California? | ||
| Yeah, but Bisping was like, oh, they're fucking smoking pot. | ||
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Take them away from fucking promoting pot use. | |
| None of those guys do crazy, insane cardio? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Bisping's got insane cardio. | ||
| The Diaz brothers have insane cardio. | ||
| Nick has swam back from Alcatraz Five times. | ||
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Excuse me? | |
| Whoa. | ||
| Five times. | ||
| I said twice once and he corrected me online. | ||
| He said five now. | ||
| Well, they compete. | ||
| That race every year? | ||
| They compete in triathlons. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know my dad, actually, he was in a plane crash in his early 20s. | ||
| He was off San Francisco. | ||
| And he had to swim a couple miles in that water to survive. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| He crashed into the water. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, most people don't know that it's a it's it's pretty crazy he and I'm gonna I'm gonna butcher the details, but just you know from growing up But what happened was he was in the army and it was right around the time the Korean War was starting and He was they were flying they're doing a routine flight or something and they had to crash land in the ocean whoa and it was getting night and I I | ||
| believe the pilot died, and I could be wrong. | ||
| The pilot died, but the other guy he was with survived. | ||
| So him and this other guy, they were swimming to shore, and they got split up because it was getting dark at night. | ||
| And so now they're swimming alone, and anyone who knows San Francisco, it's cold. | ||
| Yeah, definitely Jaws water. | ||
| Dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum. | ||
| That's where they breed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great Whites breed in Northern California. | ||
| There's like a nesting ground up there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Fucking monsters. | |
| Not where you want to crash a plane then. | ||
| Not where you want to swim from Alcatraz five times either in your underwear. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've heard of that race. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's crazy he's done that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow, so your dad had to swim two miles? | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| Maybe more. | ||
| It could have been more. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| But it was long. | ||
| I'm good for a couple hundred yards. | ||
| Yeah, swimming's not easy. | ||
| And then I start looking for a log to hang on to. | ||
| I think your dad has property in Oregon. | ||
| Or a house or something, does he? | ||
| Not that I know of. | ||
| We've got a ranch up in northern California. | ||
| He's had a ranch for a long time up in east of Redding. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Maybe I'm getting it. | ||
| If you don't know where Bernie is and that sort of area up there. | ||
| Lake Shasta sort of area. | ||
| And I think we have a big sawmill right where I live, Weyerhaeuser. | ||
| I think This could be wrong. | ||
| I think he worked there. | ||
| Your dad worked at the Weyerhaeuser Sawmill. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Jamie, can you look that up? | ||
| I've heard crazy things. | ||
| I've heard crazier. | ||
| Let's see if this is crazy. | ||
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Maybe it's on DMT. How often do you get to hang out with him? | |
| Well, I've been busy a lot. | ||
| I was gone for six months in Australia, in China... | ||
| And then before that I was working on Fast, and then before that I was on a movie. | ||
| Not as much as I'd like, but he is turning 87 this year, and I'm taking some time off because I really feel like that's an important time in my life to try to be around him. | ||
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Yeah, 87. I know, that's old. | |
| It just happens. | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| All of a sudden, you're 87. That's almost 90. It doesn't feel like Clint Eastwood would be almost 90. Yeah. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I would have thought 70. It's strange. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Because he was just... | ||
| So he had you when he was like... | ||
| In his 50s. | ||
| Damn, son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just getting shit done. | ||
| I have a sister who's 19. She might have just turned 20. No, 19. Wow. | ||
| So he was getting it done. | ||
| He was in his 60s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Slinging it in his 60s. | ||
| Ooh, I get it. | ||
| Yeah, so he was married to that girl who was a newscaster or something, right? | ||
| And they did a reality show? | ||
| Well, she did a reality show, yeah. | ||
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He didn't do it at all? | |
| No, no. | ||
| It was in no episodes at all? | ||
| Well, yeah, she might have gotten him into an episode. | ||
| She might have forced him into an episode? | ||
| I remember that was going on. | ||
| I was like, this one ain't gonna work. | ||
| No, that wasn't his thing. | ||
| Was he married to the... | ||
| Who was the woman in... | ||
| Sandra Locke? | ||
| Yeah, every which way, but... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, never, never married. | ||
| Oh, they weren't. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| She sued the shit out of him, though, when he broke up with her. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| That was like a crazy story that he was blocking her film projects. | ||
| She was trying to claim that, and he was like, what? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think he has time to deal with those kind of things. | ||
| Well, she had gotten some sort of a deal when they broke up to do some film projects. | ||
| It was part of the separation deal. | ||
| And she was claiming that he was somehow or another blocking them, if I remember the story correctly. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Nothing like a woman's squarmy. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He worked at the pulp mill. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Well, wait, but that's... | ||
| Who are you reading this? | ||
| Wikipedia? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he did. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I'll ask him. | ||
| It's all real, bro. | ||
| It's on the internet. | ||
| It's got to be real. | ||
| I think he did. | ||
| Hey, look. | ||
| I don't know if you know about Wikipedia, but this is why I know it's real. | ||
| Because anyone can enter in information and edit it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's Crazy. | ||
| So it's so 100% rock solid. | ||
| So rock solid. | ||
| Why would anybody put something that wasn't true up there? | ||
| I think Wikipedia still says Brian Callen's my brother. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Somebody might have changed it, but I left it there forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's as jacked as you. | ||
| He is almost as jacked as me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's close. | ||
| He was flexing up yesterday. | ||
| Too close to call. | ||
| He does flex like crazy. | ||
| He's such a silly goose. | ||
| That guy's the best to go hunting with. | ||
| Because for five days, like the last time we went, it was just nothing but jokes. | ||
| Just constant laughter. | ||
| Because he's the best at a captive audience. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like if you're stuck in a car with him. | ||
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Well, you can't go anywhere. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's the guy that can make a scene. | ||
| Well, he's just funny, man. | ||
| I'm not funny that way, the way he is. | ||
| He's just a natural clown, silly person. | ||
| He's always silly. | ||
| And the first time I took him to Montana, we went hunting with Ranella. | ||
| It was six days of gut-busting, howling laughter. | ||
| Steve seems more dry, though. | ||
| Steve's funny. | ||
| He's a funny guy, too. | ||
| Especially if he's got a couple pops in him. | ||
| He's a funny dude. | ||
| But Callan had this character called the Ravine Comer, and he couldn't, they wouldn't put it anywhere. | ||
| They wouldn't release the footage, but they filmed it. | ||
| It was him, he was doing this character of a guy who finds, every time he sees a ravine, he has to come. | ||
| So he runs towards these- A ravine? | ||
| Yeah, and Callan's, like, pulling his pants down, and he's, like, screaming that he's, like, shooting loads into this ravine. | ||
| I mean, I'm not doing it any justice, because he's, like, way over the top. | ||
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He's like, God, a fucking ravine! | |
| Like, whenever he'd see, like, any sort of a valley, he would have to pretend he was jerking off into it. | ||
| Like... | ||
| I'm telling you, it seems so ridiculous. | ||
| I think everybody's done that before. | ||
| Jerked off into a ravine? | ||
| Oh yeah, of course. | ||
| But when you're loopy, you get up at 5.30 in the morning, it's dark out, you're freezing. | ||
| He's the guy. | ||
| He's just making everybody laugh. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he mentioned. | ||
| There is something weird about that in the woods when you're waking up super early or going surfing super early. | ||
| You're sort of delirious and you're like, what the fuck are we doing? | ||
| Why are we putting ourselves through this shit? | ||
| And then you obviously do your activity or whatever it is and you're happy you did it. | ||
| It's a weird delirium hour. | ||
| There's also some weird thoughts that go through your mind when you're sleep deprived that don't ordinarily go through your mind. | ||
| One of the reasons is like some writers on purpose will wait until like really late at night until they write. | ||
| Like the writers that wrote for news radio, the sitcom that I used to be on, they would wait until like 2 or 3 in the morning before they started writing. | ||
| They would just stay up and get silly and joke around. | ||
| It is silly and creative. | ||
| It can be silly. | ||
| Some way. | ||
| That's usually when I make a post that I wake up in the morning and read and be like, why did I say that? | ||
| I did that the other day. | ||
| I was in New York. | ||
| I was sat at a bar and we were all celebrating. | ||
| We were fast and furious stuff. | ||
| I wake up in the morning and there's me screaming, singing Tina Turner at the top of my lungs at the bar. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What's love got to do with it? | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
|
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Oof. | |
| Yeah, out of context, that could be a problem. | ||
| It's a story. | ||
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It was so not part of any of the story, you know? | |
| It was just that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So did you drive in Fast and Furious? | ||
| Did you drive for real? | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| We don't do a lot of the heavy lifting. | ||
| The heavy lifting is done by professional stunt guys. | ||
| It's a big liability, first off. | ||
| And those stunts do an incredible job of keeping everything in camera. | ||
| Or at least a lot of it. | ||
| They can't do cars flying over submarines in camera and stuff. | ||
| They do a really good job of utilizing the stunt driver's talents and keeping a lot of stuff on camera. | ||
| But do you drive at all? | ||
| Is it ever you driving? | ||
| Yeah, you might pull up to a thing or then do a couple lines or a scene or something, but you're not doing the... | ||
| You're not going sideways around a corner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what always drives me nuts with those movies? | ||
| They crush these awesome cars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, they take these awesome classic cars and smash them like, no! | ||
| Yeah, they used a 700 or something. | ||
| We're destroyed in the making of this. | ||
| 700 cars. | ||
| What in the fuck, man? | ||
| It's like the Dukes of Hazzard. | ||
| Like, one of the biggest bummers about the Dukes of Hazzard is watching these old Chargers slam nose-first into the ground and then pretending that thing's okay. | ||
| Yeah, there was some of that driving off the snow. | ||
| What, mountain or something? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's some stuff. | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| Still the car's fine. | ||
| But, you know, that's funny because you said 700 cars were ruined. | ||
| I shot an iPhone in slow motion one time and people were saying how wasteful I was. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I'm like, have you ever seen a movie? | ||
| I mean, do you not care? | ||
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That's entertaining. | |
| Wait, wasteful of what? | ||
| Wasteful of what? | ||
| Gigabytes? | ||
| No. | ||
| Wasteful of the phone. | ||
| I wasted... | ||
| Somebody could use that phone. | ||
| Don't you know? | ||
| Do you remember the first... | ||
| Or you shot in an iPhone? | ||
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I shot... | |
| I was, like, shooting in slow-mo. | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| I shot it with an arrow. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| Oh, we shot an arrow for a waste of a phone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We shot some here. | ||
| We shot some in that back studio for Unbox Therapy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I set up some iPhones because they came out with some new glass. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was back when I had a 90-pound factor, too. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I blew right through that thing. | ||
| And people were like, that was so wasteful, you could have given that to somebody. | ||
| And I'm just like, you know. | ||
| Someone's got an opinion about everything. | ||
| Go watch a movie. | ||
| 700 classic cars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they weren't, I mean, you know, some are Pintos or, you know, whatever. | ||
| You know, I don't know how you call them classic. | ||
| They weren't all the Vin Diesel driving car. | ||
| No. | ||
| How about the shooting? | ||
| Did you guys actually shoot guns? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Blank ammunition. | ||
| That's pretty standard on movies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you had some shooting scenes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Now, I was told that when you do a scene with a gun and blank ammunition, you're still not supposed to point at the actor. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I mean, if anyone's got good gun discipline, you know, I mean, that's how I grew up is, you know, good gun discipline, you know, muzzle down. | ||
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It's... | |
| But I mean, even in a scene where you're shooting at someone with a blank? | ||
| You want to sort of offset it. | ||
| Especially if it's close. | ||
| They do testing and stuff first to see, and they'll tell you, hey, you can't pass this line if you're walking up and you're going to draw a gun on somebody. | ||
| We don't want you to go past this line or so. | ||
| And obviously, hey, can you not aim it directly at their head? | ||
| They'll find a good point for you to aim it at that can cheat with the camera a little bit. | ||
| I'd heard that that happened after Brandon Lee got killed in the movie The Crow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was a bad one. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They had real ammo in there, right? | ||
| No, there was like something was in there. | ||
| A piece of... | ||
| You know, what happens is sometimes, like, what happens is sometimes, you know, even in these airbags, the same sort of stuff, they had all these recalls in these airbags, is what happens is these blanks, you know, sometimes they'll bunch up together over time if it's an old blank, the gunpowder, so it... | ||
| It can like harden. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And then it can shoot like a projectile. | ||
| Yeah, like almost like a couple of shotgun pellets. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And just penetrated the right spot and killed them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's a.44 Magnum, I think. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So there's a ton of power behind it. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| Yeah, so now they just point it to the side. | ||
| And what about like fight scenes? | ||
| Do you have to do fight scenes? | ||
| Like, especially you having a martial arts background, did they have you do scenes? | ||
| Yeah, I didn't do... | ||
| There wasn't a terrible amount of fights. | ||
| You got slammed against the wall. | ||
| I get slammed around a little bit in this one. | ||
| But sure, you know, in other films, I love doing that stuff. | ||
| That's the fun stuff. | ||
| Especially, you know, because you get to hang with the... | ||
| Those are some of the coolest guys on set. | ||
| All the stunt guys. | ||
| You know, they're all like-minded people. | ||
| All, you know, martial art background guys. | ||
| And so you're just choreographing all day, working that out, and then you get on set and you're doing it. | ||
| Or you're doing it with them because they might be playing the, you know... | ||
| Villain number seven or something, so then you've already sort of got a shorthand with them. | ||
| That's the fun stuff. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| It's way better than dealing with a difficult actor or something. | ||
| Do you ever do that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who's the worst? | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| You're not going to get me. | ||
| Just make their name rhyme or something else. | ||
| Just make their name rhyme? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You'll get me in trouble. | ||
| Sin, Cecil? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Oh yeah, that's what I hear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought it was torpedoes, but... | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Might just be lips. | ||
| And loose lips. | ||
| Yeah, in the scene, The Rock picks him up and slams him, holds him against the wall. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Was that real? | ||
| Was that real? | ||
| It's real with... | ||
| It's real with some assistance. | ||
| There's some movie magic. | ||
| But he's a big guy. | ||
| If it was real, you would have dropped him and choked him out, right? | ||
| That dude is so jacked. | ||
| He took a photo of him after a workout the other day, and I'm like, what? | ||
| Yeah, he's huge. | ||
| He's so disciplined, too. | ||
| 4 a.m. | ||
| 4 a.m., yeah. | ||
| When you're on set with him, is he just always doing that? | ||
| What's his deal? | ||
| Yeah, he's just an extremely disciplined guy. | ||
| I got a lot of respect for him. | ||
| He knows what he wants and he is going to get it. | ||
| There is no no. | ||
| He is taking it down. | ||
| He's making movie after movie after movie. | ||
| He's going to go do it. | ||
| He eats religiously. | ||
| He's got these meals that come. | ||
| I love doing meal prep stuff because it's great. | ||
| It makes his life one less thing to think about, right? | ||
| But he's very religious with it. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Get the fuck out of the dogs. | ||
| Look at that piece of meat. | ||
| He's more jacked now than he's ever been in his life. | ||
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I think he's 44. Yeah, 44 or 46 or something. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And just uber jacked. | ||
| Yeah, he's a stud. | ||
| And continuing to get more and more jacked. | ||
| Still putting in the work. | ||
| Yeah, he's not done getting jacked. | ||
| He's keeping pumping it. | ||
| He's keeping it going. | ||
| It's just, when you see his schedule and his workload, there's always some new project he's doing. | ||
| He's doing a TV show, and he's doing a this, and he's doing a that. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| How the fuck does he have time? | ||
| And he's hosting this award show, and he's doing something for the troops, and he's doing this movie, and he's finishing up that movie, and he's like, how? | ||
| I tell you, the travel is what kills me. | ||
| I know you've been in show business for longer than all of us, and the travel is what kills you, right? | ||
| These long flights, and then jet lag, and then you've got to go hit the gym. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I did a podcast yesterday. | ||
| My brain just wouldn't fire right. | ||
| It takes, to me, like a day or two. | ||
| I just flew in from Buffalo, and it just takes a day or two for your brain to re-sync. | ||
| Today I feel normal, but yesterday I just was foggy. | ||
| I haven't tried it, but I keep hearing about the... | ||
| what you're supposed to do with the light for the jet lag because like the simulation of light wherever you're at and they have you know you're supposed to put on the eye thing like when it's supposed to get dark like say you're flying into the light you're flying you know going away all those eye covers yeah and simulate wherever you want where you ever you're supposed to end up yeah and that really is supposed to help with jet lag I was reading a podcast about Alaska, about people that hunt in Alaska, and then when you go up there in the summer and you get like two hours of... | ||
| Reading a podcast. | ||
| Did I say reading a podcast? | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with me? | ||
| Why do I keep saying that? | ||
| That's the second time on this podcast. | ||
| I've never said it before. | ||
| Maybe I'm still not really recovered from Buffalo. | ||
| I'm in denial. | ||
| Excuse me, I was listening to a podcast where they were talking, this guy was talking about how he usually sleeps like a baby, but he went up to Alaska because it's only dark for two hours a night in the summer where they were at. | ||
| I think they were in the Brooks Range. | ||
| And he was saying that after six or seven days, he started getting delusional. | ||
| He gets just delirious. | ||
| Too much light. | ||
| That's the same with that circadian rhythm, is that... | ||
| Just the light, because they say the light affects the optic nerves where you're supposed to produce melatonin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this guy was saying that the way to mitigate that, that he didn't know at the time, but he was told by someone, is to wear a mask. | ||
| Those sleeping masks you see in movies, they always look so silly in movies, but those things are actually effective. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm sloppy about it, but... | ||
| Fucking Alaska, though, you need it. | ||
| Have you ever been in the summer? | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| It's awesome, right? | ||
| Many times. | ||
| It's weird, though. | ||
| We would bear hunt until... | ||
| I used to go with Roy almost every year. | ||
| We'd bear hunt until... | ||
| God, I want to think. | ||
| One in the morning? | ||
| We'd go back, eat, and then go fishing at like three in the morning. | ||
| It was like dark for an hour. | ||
| Then we'd go fishing, then we'd start baiting again, then we'd hunt that night, then we'd do the same thing. | ||
| No sleep? | ||
| Which part of Alaska? | ||
| It's like the Susitna River, so it's just south-central, basically. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I've been up there a few times. | ||
| I've been up to Seward and then up, I think, north where they do salmon fishing. | ||
| The commercial guys will come in and they'll... | ||
| It's like they net them, but the tides get so low and stuff, they'll drive on the beach at these amphibious boats. | ||
| It's crazy, and they'll lay the net and stuff. | ||
| It really is the last frontier up there. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Too cold, though. | ||
| Too cold. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| How dare you, San Diego? | ||
| I'm a total pussy when it comes to weather. | ||
| Well, you lived in Hawaii, and now you live in San Diego. | ||
| It's like, come on, man. | ||
| You're in paradise both times. | ||
| You can get anywhere now, right? | ||
| San Diego's one of those places where people in San Diego don't want you telling people how good San Diego is. | ||
| They're mad at me. | ||
| There's a thousand people screaming right now going, shut the fuck up. | ||
| Well, the traffic already sucks. | ||
| It's way worse now than it used to be in San Diego. | ||
| It used to be way easier to get around. | ||
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It's true. | |
| It's good skydiving. | ||
| I have jumped down there on the border, like El Cajon-ish area. | ||
| Where was I? There's like some lake. | ||
| There's an Olympic Training Center out there. | ||
| Do you know where that is? | ||
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No. | |
| Oh, I can't remember what the lake was. | ||
| But people don't realize about San Diego, too. | ||
| It's a lot of ranch land. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I mean, it's obviously the coastal area is just a little sliver. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you go east and you're right in Rancho Santa Fe in five minutes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just beautiful orange. | ||
| It's old California, you know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, tons of ranch land, people riding horses. | ||
| Goldberg's got a ranch out there. | ||
|
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Oh, really? | |
| Goldberg the wrestler? | ||
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Oh. | |
| Yeah, he's got some badass place out there. | ||
| He keeps his muscle cars. | ||
| I thought Mike Goldberg. | ||
| No, Mike Goldberg lives in Phoenix. | ||
| My boys, when we were watching UFC the other night, they were like, bring Goldberg back. | ||
| A lot of people want to bring him back. | ||
| We miss Goldberg. | ||
| There's a survey someone did online where it was like, keep John Anik, me, and Dominic Cruz was A, and then Goldberg was B, and it was like 90% B. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I sent it to the UFC. Did you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| What do you think of that? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| People want change, especially if they own it. | ||
| You pay $4 billion for something. | ||
| Put your signature on something, I guess. | ||
| You want to change the color of the car. | ||
| I bought a new car. | ||
| It cost me $4 billion. | ||
| I'm going to make it red. | ||
| I always wanted it red. | ||
| Are you going to... | ||
| I was going to say a fish knight, but you're not going to marry them. | ||
| Are you going to commentate that fight? | ||
| Would you be the frontrunner to be one of the commentators if they do the McGregor Mayweather fight? | ||
| Most likely, no, because it's a boxing match. | ||
| Most likely, I'll be here watching it on the screen. | ||
| I can't wait for it, though, if it happens. | ||
| I mean, I just don't think so. | ||
| I'm not a boxing commentator. | ||
| I know a lot about boxing. | ||
| I've followed boxing since I was a kid. | ||
| And I've commentated on kickboxing bouts before, but I've never commentated on a boxing fight before. | ||
| It'd be kind of cool, though, if they had two guys from the boxing world and you, because they're two worlds. | ||
| They always have Jim Lampley, right? | ||
| Is that who they always have? | ||
| And Max Kellerman, who I really love. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, Max. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| I would be happy to do a pay-per-view with Max Kellerman. | ||
| I think it'd be fun. | ||
| I'm a big fan of that dude. | ||
| It'd be a different perspective, just because with McGregor coming out of the UFC... Or Paulie Malignaggi. | ||
| He's another one. | ||
| I really respect that guy a lot, too. | ||
| He's a great commentator and world champion boxer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I'd be, maybe, most likely, no. | ||
| Most likely. | ||
| I just do, I'm doing less and less of those. | ||
| I do 10 a year now. | ||
| The most I've ever done, I think it was up to like 24 a year. | ||
| It's just too much, man. | ||
| You're not doing them all now. | ||
| No international pay-per-view anymore. | ||
| No Fox ones anymore, like all those big Fox shows. | ||
| Cut all those out. | ||
| All I do now is domestic pay-per-view. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So it's about 10, 10 a year. | ||
| Yeah, the international, man, that just kills you. | ||
| Oh, fuck. | ||
| We had fun, though. | ||
| We went to Rio and watched Rwanda. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| Yeah, Cam came with me down when she fought Betch Cohea in Rio and starched her in the first round. | ||
| 34 seconds. | ||
| That was a good time. | ||
| It was fun, but you remember how sketchy it was. | ||
| We drive around a bulletproof car. | ||
| We've got an armed guard with us everywhere. | ||
| It's fucking, you know. | ||
| I've been down there. | ||
| I didn't have any of that. | ||
| You must be a... | ||
| Pretty big down there. | ||
| I'm very important. | ||
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I thought it was for me. | |
| It could have been. | ||
| They're big Bohannic fans. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they know that you don't pack a piece, so they're like, okay, well... | ||
| I was down there with Giselle, and she was taking helicopters around. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| To get around. | ||
| That was a... | ||
| That's the way to do it? | ||
| Yeah, that was the way. | ||
| We were in Sao Paulo, actually. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| To avoid being carjacked? | ||
| Is that why she took helicopters? | ||
| No, I think it was just... | ||
| I mean, I imagine there's some... | ||
| Maybe I have no idea, but... | ||
| I think we just avoid traffic. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of traffic. | ||
| The traffic is terrible. | ||
| I mean, even where we were, the traffic was terrible. | ||
| There's like one road. | ||
| Well, that's Rio. | ||
| Yeah, we were by the beach. | ||
| That was a problem. | ||
| Remember when we got to the fight, it took forever to get to the fight. | ||
| They were like, you have to leave three hours early. | ||
| We're like, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you get in the car, you go, oh, I get it. | ||
| That was, while it was going on, was while we were talking to Dana Lash on the phone. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Because it was right when Cecil the Bear was happening. | ||
| The lion. | ||
| Oh, excuse me. | ||
| I was reading about it in a TV show. | ||
| A podcast. | ||
| About Cecil the kangaroo. | ||
| Yeah, that thing was going down, man. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| That was at the time. | ||
| But yeah, that was the last time I went to Brazil. | ||
| I've been to Brazil five times. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love the Brazilians. | ||
| I love the food down there. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's great and everything like that. | ||
| We were going to go see Christ the Redeemer. | ||
| That was our goal, to go do that. | ||
| Do you know what a process that is to go see that thing? | ||
| No, really? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It takes forever. | ||
| It was like a whole day. | ||
| You have to take buses halfway and then other buses. | ||
| It's just like you could not just go up there. | ||
| I mean, it's better just getting a helicopter. | ||
| It's a pretty dope statue though. | ||
| I wanted to be there. | ||
| So we got one from afar. | ||
| We had it in the background and we were like... | ||
| It's pretty cool though. | ||
| It's pretty cool to be up there. | ||
| I'd like to fly it. | ||
| I'm a helicopter pilot. | ||
| Are you really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I'd like to fly that. | ||
| That's kind of like, you know, for pilots, it's kind of like, oh, that's a bucket list place. | ||
| I'd love to fly. | ||
| Circle that? | ||
| Yeah, other places. | ||
| Now, how does that work? | ||
| If you have a license in America and you want to fly in Brazil, obviously you can't fly a helicopter all the way to Brazil. | ||
| No. | ||
| How far can a helicopter fly? | ||
| Like, what's the longest distance? | ||
| Well, it really just depends on what helicopter you're talking about and how many people you're with. | ||
| So there's a lot of weight and balance. | ||
| Two people, the furthest travel the helicopter's ever gone. | ||
| Well, that's probably a Blackhawk, I would imagine. | ||
| They have dual engines and they have their $11 million or $20 million helicopter, whatever it is. | ||
| It's got massive fuel tanks that a civilian helicopter can't go. | ||
| So I wouldn't know the answer. | ||
| Find out, Jamie. | ||
| How far is a blackout? | ||
| I'm going to guess. | ||
| Let's guess. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I bet they can fly for 12 hours. | ||
| No way. | ||
|
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No way? | |
| That's a long time. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| American engineering. | ||
| I'm going to say 300 miles. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| What if someone's chasing them? | ||
| They're almost out of guess. | ||
| Complete guess. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I would go on Cameron's side. | ||
| I'm saying across the ocean three times. | ||
| No, not even close. | ||
| If you're saying 12 hours, how fast do they go? | ||
| Well, it depends. | ||
| If you're in a piston helicopter, or if you're in a turbine helicopter. | ||
| Like a Black Hawk. | ||
| What's the difference? | ||
| Well, piston helicopter is like a piston engine. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Like a car engine. | ||
| Yeah, but it uses your blades in the same sort of fashion, but speed on like a 44, like 130 knots, I think is your V&E, which is your do not exceed. | ||
| 2,000 miles. | ||
| Huh. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Distance without landing, 2,213 miles. | ||
| This is Wikipedia again. | ||
| Hey, how dare you? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I see where you get your information from. | ||
| Oh, that's a small helicopter. | ||
| No, that's an MD-500. | ||
| But that's not a Blackhawk. | ||
| That's not a Blackhawk. | ||
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I need to know what a Blackhawk is. | |
| What do you mean it's not right? | ||
| It's on Wikipedia. | ||
| We already discussed this. | ||
| Anyone can edit this. | ||
| Of course it's right. | ||
| If it was wrong, they would have corrected it. | ||
| So, 400 miles an hour, or no, 250 miles per hour. | ||
| That one goes. | ||
| That's pretty amazing. | ||
| And that's a... | ||
| That's a record. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But let's find out what... | ||
| See if you can Google a Blackhawk. | ||
| Google Blackhawk helicopter. | ||
| What would you Google? | ||
| Long distance. | ||
| Distance capability. | ||
| Distance capability or something. | ||
| Distance. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| 276 miles. | ||
| Wow, that's a lot different. | ||
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Hey. | |
| Nautical miles. | ||
| 300. How's a nautical mile? | ||
| 151 miles shorter than other similar rotated aircrafts. | ||
| Maximum altitude is 6,000 feet. | ||
| Top speed, 151. So you see, they're pretty fast because, you know, a turbine helicopter... | ||
| Well, you can get some civilian ones. | ||
| The MD-500 is a pretty fast helicopter. | ||
| When you say knots, what is that in, like, mile per hour? | ||
| 151 knots. | ||
| What is knots to miles per hour? | ||
| I would have to check. | ||
| Why do they say nautical miles, too? | ||
| Well, nautical miles are longer than nautical miles. | ||
| That's pretty close. | ||
| 1.15. | ||
| Okay, so it's 1.1 mile per hour for every one mile an hour. | ||
| A knot to a mile. | ||
| So it's more than 150 miles an hour. | ||
| 300? | ||
| Or wait. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought it was 200 and some. | ||
| It said 150 knots, didn't it? | ||
| 150 knots. | ||
| Yeah, so it's... | ||
| 1.1 to each. | ||
| 276. What's that? | ||
| 151 knots. | ||
| Top speed comes at 151 knots. | ||
| 261 nautical miles. | ||
| I typed in distance and that's the first thing. | ||
| So it can fly. | ||
| Oh, I see. | ||
| Was this last one knots or miles? | ||
| You just googled the second thing. | ||
| Nautical miles. | ||
| Knots to miles, but not nautical miles. | ||
| It's the same thing though. | ||
| One nautical mile per hour. | ||
| That's what a knot is. | ||
| It's a nautical mile per hour. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So the speed of knots is the same as nautical miles. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, how interesting. | ||
| I wonder why they don't just use miles. | ||
| Why fucking confuse the shit out of everybody? | ||
| Hey, it's the same thing with a standard metric system. | ||
| Did you know that a knot and a nautical mile were the same thing? | ||
| I just learned that. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| But it's just like Adam putting up Celsius for temperature. | ||
| Oh, Adam Greentree? | ||
| He lives in Australia. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'd say nobody knows what Celsius is. | ||
| Should he put up American dollars, too, just for Instagram? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| What are you doing with that stupid green money? | ||
| Your money's the wrong color. | ||
| Sorry, mate. | ||
|
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Sorry. | |
| Yeah, it's weird when you go down there, too, because everybody looks normal, and they start driving on the left-hand side of the road, and they talk weird. | ||
| And the steering wheel's on the wrong side. | ||
| It's all fucked up. | ||
| They don't know what they're doing. | ||
| So they're not normal. | ||
| But they are great people. | ||
| I was just down there for six months, and I really do like the Australian people. | ||
| That's the second place I would live other than America. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Number one is Canada. | ||
| I'd move to Canada first. | ||
| You would? | ||
| Yeah, if shit went down. | ||
| To kill bear? | ||
| To kill fucking everything up there. | ||
| Moose. | ||
| Like, I think it's the nicest people in the world. | ||
| I think Canadians are the nicest people on earth. | ||
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They're sorry. | |
| They're always sorry. | ||
|
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Sorry. | |
| Sorry, eh? | ||
| Sorry, eh? | ||
| What's it all about? | ||
| So that's like the place I'd live first, other than America. | ||
| Number two is Australia. | ||
| It's a close second, especially Melbourne. | ||
| I fucking love Melbourne. | ||
| Such a great, great city. | ||
| I love both of them. | ||
| They're both awesome, but Melbourne. | ||
| I just had a great time in Melbourne. | ||
| The amazing food, the shows we did were amazing. | ||
| It was just such a great time. | ||
| I really like Sydney. | ||
| The whole country, man. | ||
| It's just great. | ||
| It's got so much more open space. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just huge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's huge for the amount of people they have there. | ||
| Less people than in the greater Los Angeles area, and the entire country is the size of the United States. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's a lot of country, though. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why they're so nice. | ||
| I do hear, though, that there's a lot of interesting stuff happening in the desert out there with, like, nuclear waste that they're allowing them to dump out there. | ||
| Oh, they're trying to make some Godzilla-type shit. | ||
| That's what they're doing. | ||
| That's what I would do. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| There's some spots out there with nothing but spiders and crocodiles. | ||
| Throw some uranium out there. | ||
| There's some stuff out there that can kill you for sure. | ||
| Everything out there can kill you. | ||
| He's going. | ||
| He's headed down there soon. | ||
| I'm super jealous. | ||
| He's going to do 18 days hunting water buffaloes and kangaroos and shit. | ||
| Are you going to shoot a kangaroo? | ||
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No. | |
| Are you allowed to? | ||
| Are you allowed to hunt kangaroos? | ||
| Yeah, you are. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They make kangaroo beef jerky and stuff. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's supposed to taste good. | ||
| It's supposed to taste like venison. | ||
| What movie were you doing there? | ||
| I was shooting Pacific Rim. | ||
| Oh, you did that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How was that? | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| It was kind of like you said. | ||
| It was like you're creating a Godzilla monster type things, right? | ||
| That's a crazy movie, right? | ||
| How do you act when it's CGI? What is that like? | ||
| I guess I don't know what it is. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Pacific Rim's a monster movie. | ||
| Oh, is it? | ||
| Some shit grows in the ground and comes out and fucks everybody up. | ||
| It's kind of like the dinosaurs, but in the future. | ||
| It's like the dinosaurs came back. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's kind of cool. | |
| It's a very cool concept. | ||
| Cam's a no-nonsense guy. | ||
| You throw Godzilla past him, his eyes roll back in his head. | ||
| It's like, bitch, I ran 205 miles. | ||
| I got no time for fucking monsters. | ||
| I got no time for monsters. | ||
| I'm a bow hunter. | ||
| I got no time for fake monsters. | ||
| I got bears. | ||
| That's what I told Scott yesterday. | ||
| He's like, you know a lot about a lot. | ||
| I said, I know... | ||
| Sort of a lot about two things. | ||
| Running and bowhunting. | ||
| I don't know shit about shit, man. | ||
| I know a lot about two things. | ||
| I know enough to pretend I know a lot about everything else. | ||
| If you ask me about martial arts or comedy, I can give you some long ass answers, and I know what the fuck I'm talking about. | ||
| But you get into other areas, I'm like, hmm, I better Google. | ||
| Jamie, where are you? | ||
| I just need Jamie to follow me around. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Dude, no one's better at Jamie than pulling shit out. | ||
| You're in the middle of going, wait a minute, is that right? | ||
| And then all of a sudden, boink, pops up on the screen. | ||
| See, that's an invaluable resource. | ||
| That makes me look so much smarter than I really am. | ||
| There's no way you can know everything about everything, and anybody who claims to is an asshole. | ||
| This is just, it's not possible. | ||
| Well, how much information can your brain even take, right? | ||
| Good question. | ||
| You know, they say, I've heard several times now that you're only supposed to be able to really recognize 150 people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Something like that, where it's... | ||
| Yeah, they think you can have relationships with 150 people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is, a lot of guys are super psyched about that. | ||
| They're like, yes, you get this one thing. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| 150! | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Yeah, it's called Dunbar's Number. | ||
| Dunbar's Number, you keep 150 people in your head that you have friendships with. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| The idea is that our brain was designed to absorb the names and faces of people that are in our tribe. | ||
| And then when tribes get over 150 people, they're essentially unmanageable. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| I believe it, too. | ||
| I think it goes back to what we're talking about when we're saying that people aren't designed for cities. | ||
| They're not designed for this life and for televisions and lights that you just switch on and off that we're really designed to... | ||
| It's the reason why you feel so content when you're in the mountains is that your body's designed for that, literally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And for hunting. | ||
| So, sorry, anti-hunting psychos. | ||
| Poor people. | ||
| I hate the city. | ||
| You know, the anti-hunting people, you know, they just... | ||
| They get food. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| It's easy to get food. | ||
| If it wasn't, they would turn. | ||
| Listen to me, you fucks. | ||
| All of you. | ||
| You would shoot a rabbit right in the face if you were starving and your kids were crying. | ||
| Guaranteed. | ||
| If it gets ugly, if it all gets ugly, you become a predator. | ||
| Guaranteed. | ||
| Guaranteed. | ||
| Because animals are going to hunt you too, fuckface. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| You're out there in the woods by yourself and you're making a lean-to and you have to fight the coyote that's trying to drag your kid off in the middle of the night. | ||
| Yeah, that coyote gets roasted over an open fire. | ||
| Yeah, with a big smile on your face. | ||
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It happens. | |
| Yeah, Brendan put up a picture of the grizzly I killed up on his page yesterday. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| The tsunami of butthurt. | ||
| Unimaginable. | ||
| He had to text me and tell me sorry about all the hate. | ||
| And I'm like, I said, dude, I just told him, hey, you gotta take the good with the bad. | ||
| I said, this is all part of the deal. | ||
| It's interesting that people, you know, they don't understand. | ||
| Like, here's my favorite one, ever. | ||
| When you were talking about bear hunting, and, like, you were saying, you know, that the bear populations have to be controlled, and the woman on the show was like, that's because you've killed off all their predators. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about, dinosaurs, bitch? | ||
| What the hell is killing a grizzly bear? | ||
| Are you crazy? | ||
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The only thing that kills grizzly bears is other grizzly bears. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Unless you want to have a grizzly bear cannibal apocalypse going on up there, you got to control their numbers. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And I told Brendan that too. | ||
| I said, listen, these people just don't realize that if the grizzlies, the brown bears up there where you can kill two a year because there's so many of them, that if we didn't control them, there'd be no moose. | ||
| There'd be no deer. | ||
| There'd be no a lot of animals. | ||
| Especially the moose. | ||
| They just focus on those moose when the calves are dropping. | ||
| And so those follow the pregnant female around and eat the calf when it drops. | ||
| And without us controlling them, those would be gone. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| I don't know exactly the numbers or anything about great white sharks, right? | ||
| Everyone's protected those for so long that then that will start screwing up the cycle. | ||
| Because then the tuna population, because we're taking all the tuna population, everyone's so psycho over tuna and raw fish, right? | ||
| And we're protecting all... | ||
| The great white sharks and some other sharks. | ||
| We've just completely off-balanced the situation. | ||
| Because that's what they eat. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Well, anytime people intervene in the natural world and step in and protect one thing and not the others. | ||
| Well, we have to intervene. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| I mean, we have to. | ||
| Animals, they just don't manage themselves. | ||
| What I mean by intervene is like what they did in Australia, where they brought over feral cats to control the rats and rabbits, and then they started eating the ground-nesting birds, so they bring in foxes to try to kill the cats, and then the foxes kill everything but the cats, and like, Jesus Christ! | ||
| So wait, why did they bring the cats in? | ||
| It's a long story, but they brought in rabbits in Australia, and the rabbit population got out of control. | ||
| And then they brought in cats to deal with the rabbits, but the cats didn't just eat the rabbits. | ||
| They also started decimating the ground-nesting birds and all the other local rodents. | ||
| And then they brought in other things to deal with the cats. | ||
| And now hunters are... | ||
| Australia is weird. | ||
| They're hunting magazines. | ||
| Water buffalo are not from there. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| They're from Asia. | ||
| Everything in Australia. | ||
| All the stags and crocodiles, I haven't heard, right? | ||
| Some of the big American crocodile were introduced from America. | ||
| I'm not sure about that. | ||
| What? | ||
| No, I think they're from Australia. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| Those saltwater crocs are huge. | ||
| Yeah, they're a bigger crocodile than American. | ||
| I'm thinking alligator. | ||
| American alligator over there they have alligators in Australia, I believe I don't know I'm not sure about that But I do know that they they show cats in their hunting magazines. | ||
| Yeah, they're hunting magazines dudes hold up cats like I got one mate and Like, and they think it's cool, but it's the same as in America if you killed, like, a coyote that's killing all the neighborhood pets. | ||
| People would, like, shoot it with a bow and arrow and then take a picture of it and they'd be happy. | ||
| Yeah, good, you got that fucking kitty-cat-eating coyote. | ||
| But that's how these people are in Australia with the cats. | ||
| It's all just culturally relative. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's no different. | ||
| When we were there, last time I was there, had this big white stallion of Bromby's. | ||
| It's just a horse coming. | ||
| And Adam's telling me, he's like, oh man, that's a trophy. | ||
| You should kill that thing. | ||
| I'm like, What? | ||
| I can't kill a freaking horse, dude. | ||
| But it's a Bromby. | ||
| And it was by itself. | ||
| It looked awesome. | ||
| It comes all the way up. | ||
| I'm praying it would go somewhere else. | ||
| Now it comes 20 yards. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I couldn't do it. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| That's just because where we grow up, where we live. | ||
| Show your condition to horses. | ||
| To them, that's something to hunt. | ||
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It's me. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I ate at Joe Beef in Montreal, the restaurant. | ||
| It's a great restaurant in Montreal, and they serve horse. | ||
| They had horse loin, and they also served horse tartare. | ||
| So it was like raw horse and horse loin, and we were like, ooh. | ||
| Because it's an amazing restaurant, but they're like super creative with their dishes. | ||
| And both times I was there, they gave us horse. | ||
| No, I can't do horse. | ||
| I like horses. | ||
| It was one of the biggest problems we ever had on Fear Factor. | ||
| We made people eat horse rectum. | ||
| No ways. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I remember that show, but I don't remember the horse rectum. | ||
| Yeah, it was huge. | ||
| People were furious. | ||
| I'm not so sure it was... | ||
| And that was the stopper. | ||
| Not because it was rectum, but because it was horse. | ||
| Yeah, pig rectum was fine, not a peep out of people. | ||
| Nobody said a damn thing. | ||
| But horse rectum is a huge issue. | ||
| Hey, you want to cause more problems? | ||
| How about bear rectum? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You wouldn't want that. | ||
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No. | |
| Why is horse better? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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Did that show just... | |
| Did it fizzle out because you were done with it? | ||
| No, it fizzled out the first time because it just did 148 episodes and it was just enough was enough. | ||
| And it never really got canceled. | ||
| We just kind of stopped doing it. | ||
| And everybody was done. | ||
| Let's just fucking stop. | ||
| And we walked away from it. | ||
| And then several years later, it came back and we did six episodes. | ||
| And it was canceled because we made people drink cum. | ||
| We made them drink donkey cum and donkey urine. | ||
| Nobody had a problem with the urine, oddly enough. | ||
| It's like relatively normal in comparison to the cum, but that was it. | ||
| TMZ got a hold of some of the photos, some leaked photos of the donkey cum episode and put it up there. | ||
| What did you call it? | ||
| I do not remember. | ||
| I think we said sperm. | ||
| I think we said sperm or semen or whatever the fuck we said. | ||
| That's disgusting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was the studio? | ||
|
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Enough! | |
| But people did it, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| All three of them did it. | ||
| All three of them did it. | ||
| Yeah, it was enough. | ||
| You've got to get out of here, don't you? | ||
| You've got to go to Conan. | ||
| Are you leaving soon? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pretty soon. | ||
| Let's get away from drinking cum. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| This is troubling. | ||
| Even to me. | ||
| I'm one of the very few people in Hollywood or anywhere in the world that can say, I lost a job because people had a drink cum on TV. Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| What's hilarious is that NBC said yes to that. | ||
| That was all signed off. | ||
| That got passed through whatever. | ||
| Lawyers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Quality control. | ||
| Yeah, it looks good. | ||
| A lot of people, a lot of, you know, a lot of certain, you know, genders drink gum all the time. | ||
| Both. | ||
| Both genders. | ||
| That's on who the people are. | ||
| I thought we were switching. | ||
| I wanted to. | ||
| He brought me back in. | ||
| I saw you. | ||
| Clint Eastwood's kid. | ||
| You lobbed it up. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| The Fate of the Furious, April 14th. | ||
| That's when it comes out. | ||
| It's Friday. | ||
| Are Vin Diesel and The Rock at odds in this photo? | ||
| I can't tell. | ||
| It seems like there perhaps could be some tension. | ||
| Hey, was that fake news that I read? | ||
| Or was that real? | ||
| Yeah, it's all just don't believe anything you read on the internet. | ||
|
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I heard there's some real issues with those two. | |
| Two alphas colliding on the set and Vin Diesel wouldn't take off his sunglasses even at night. | ||
| It was so strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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That's funny. | |
| Fucking dope cars though, man. | ||
| He took off his necklace, so pay attention to that. | ||
| What kind of cars they have in this episode? | ||
| Oh, was that a Charger with the flared fenders? | ||
| Yeah, you got like sort of soup-tip Charger there. | ||
| Oh, look at that Charger. | ||
| That sucker was on display somewhere. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That Charger? | ||
| Is it on display somewhere? | ||
| It might have been. | ||
| I mean, it's one of the hero cars in the film. | ||
| That's a fucking insane car. | ||
| Like, that's... | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That's pretty sexy, right? | ||
| That looks good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's something about those American cars from the late 60s, early 70s. | ||
| You just can't get anything like that. | ||
| Sexy. | ||
| God, amazing. | ||
| That one's got a custom grille, too. | ||
| Look at that grille on that sucker. | ||
|
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Whoa! | |
| Need it. | ||
| No Ram truck, huh? | ||
| No. | ||
| Cam's a fan of the Ram trucks. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| I like trucks. | ||
| He really likes those. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do, too. | ||
| But they just don't. | ||
| There's something about, you know, you can't get a Ram truck with a supercharger popping out of the hood like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Big old blower. | ||
|
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See? | |
| Look, they're fighting. | ||
| Oh, no, that's Jason Statham. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Oh, Jason Statham's fighting who? | ||
| Rock. | ||
| I don't think that's the Rock. | ||
|
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Yeah, it is. | |
| Why is he so brown? | ||
| They pretend he's black? | ||
| He's got baby oil on. | ||
| Jason Statham, I would have to pull him aside and go, hey, run. | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| Run. | ||
| Run the other way. | ||
| But he fights, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He's got a martial arts background, for sure. | ||
| Legit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Jason Statham can fight, for sure. | ||
| But still run. | ||
| Hey, look at that. | ||
| The Rock's fucking... | ||
| Look at that handsome bastard. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| They have features on that guy. | ||
| Young Clint Eastwood. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Hey, how dare you? | ||
| Give me a compliment. | ||
| He's a handsome fella. | ||
| I don't understand why he's so upset. | ||
| He's angry. | ||
| A lot of those Hollywood guys are angry. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| It's like a... | ||
| Oh... | ||
| So, what's next for you? | ||
| What do you got going on after this? | ||
| Anything scheduled? | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I'm going to take some time off. | ||
| I'm going to see my father. | ||
| And bow hunt! | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| I'm going to get over there. | ||
| Come to Hawaii. | ||
| If you come to Hawaii, Cam, I'll go to Hawaii. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Bring the girlfriend. | ||
| He's going to go kill bears. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| Don't say that in life. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| Oh, is that what it is? | ||
|
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I'm sorry. | |
| I meant he's not going to kill bears under any circumstance. | ||
| What he's going to do is shoot over their head and take a picture of it. | ||
| No, he's going to try to scare them off so I can't kill them. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| Right. | ||
| And let them know where the moose babies are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All those cunty little moose babies that you love to eat. | ||
| Go get them. | ||
| Go get them, nice, sweet, friendly bear. | ||
| Go eat those bear, those babies, those moose babies. | ||
| You don't need moose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, would you not hunt bear because of the blowback? | ||
| Look, if I hunt anything, I'll eat. | ||
| I never say never. | ||
| I eat bear. | ||
| Yeah, you can eat bear. | ||
| Bear sausage is good, man. | ||
| I'm telling you, like black bear in particular. | ||
| People say it doesn't taste good. | ||
| You shoot it, you eat it. | ||
| Up there with the rivets, we have some amazing bear meat dishes. | ||
| It's like you'd think it was the best steak ever. | ||
|
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I bet. | |
| The stir fry that Jen makes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That stir fry is amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sausages. | ||
| I have a bear summer sausage that's amazing. | ||
| Bear regular sausage. | ||
| Italian sweet sausage and bear. | ||
| It's fucking good, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I bet. | ||
| And people just are, you know... | ||
| He's not buying it. | ||
|
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Look at him. | |
| No, I'm... | ||
| He's like, I'm not shooting a bear, bitch. | ||
| Wait till this goes... | ||
| The publicist is losing her mind somewhere. | ||
|
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Wait till we're off air. | |
| Yeah, wait till we're off air. | ||
| Yeah, but is that why? | ||
| Because you would hunt anything to eat and you wouldn't hunt that because you wouldn't eat it? | ||
| Well, no, I just, I never had bear. | ||
| I don't know, maybe it's, you know, I'll have some of your bear sausage and I'll say, shit. | ||
| I'll give you some for real. | ||
| It really is good, man. | ||
| And it's, the thing is, it's also an important tool for conservation because they really do need to keep those populations down, especially in Alberta. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, tons of bear up there. | ||
| People think that, like, I go outside, I don't see any bear. | ||
| Bear populations are so diminished. | ||
| It's because you're not where they are. | ||
| If you go where they are, they're goddamn everywhere. | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| I go, yeah, you're not going to see a grizzly at Starbucks, but, you know, hey, go up to Alaska, you're going to see plenty. | ||
| And they need to be managed. | ||
|
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Well, Jamie... | |
| Jamie played that video of that guy that's sitting, he's a photographer, and he's by a river, and the bear wanders up to him, and then they pan out to the rest of the river, and you see like a dozen grizzlies wandering through this river, jacking all these salmon. | ||
| First of all, What the fuck? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You imagine? | ||
| You're sitting there. | ||
| This thing just pulls up within 15 feet of you. | ||
| Like, you are only alive because it chooses not to eat you. | ||
| Because it's got a belly full of salmon. | ||
| So this guy is sitting there. | ||
| This bear, he has to chase it off. | ||
| He has to yell at it. | ||
| I mean, it's feet away from him and easily a thousand pounds. | ||
| It's an enormous bear, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And look at that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If it decides to kill you, I mean, it's not like you can look at a bear and tell. | ||
| It's not like a dog with a wagging tail. | ||
| I mean, you don't know. | ||
| That bear could think, I just don't feel like killing you. | ||
| Next time, okay, yeah, I'll kill you. | ||
| I mean, there's no difference. | ||
| Our big bear family, best buddies. | ||
| People see this stuff and they think, you know. | ||
| The bears are our friends. | ||
|
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Look at how many of them got up there. | |
| The grizzly man. | ||
| Timothy Treadwell. | ||
| Did you ever see that documentary? | ||
| The grizzly man? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Anybody listen to this who hasn't seen it? | ||
| This is what you do. | ||
| You smoke some of that devil's cabbage, and you sit in front of the old Netflix, and you watch Grizzly Man, because it is a goddamn unintentional comedy. | ||
|
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Unintentional? | |
| It really is. | ||
| It's an unintentional comedy. | ||
| There's so many comedic beats in that movie. | ||
| I was supposed to interview Werner Herzog. | ||
| He was on a tour last summer. | ||
| The past didn't work out and we never wound up doing the podcast together, but that was the first thing I was going to ask him. | ||
| I was like, come on, did you intentionally put comedic beats into that movie? | ||
| Because there's this one part where there's a sheriff, he goes, I thought he was retarded. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| I thought he was retarded. | ||
| I was in the theater falling down laughing. | ||
|
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I was like, ah! | |
| He thought he was retarded because after the guy got eaten by the bear, because he was up there like way past when you're supposed to be up there too. | ||
| He was out there past. | ||
| He was friends. | ||
| Yeah, they were friends. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's one scene, this is Mrs. Chocolate. | ||
| Oh, this is her poop. | ||
| It's right here. | ||
| This came out of her butt. | ||
| He's like picking it up. | ||
| He's like, it's still warm. | ||
| It's still warm because it was inside of her. | ||
| And that's just a good example of the bear might not kill you just because they don't feel like it, but when they feel like it, it's over. | ||
|
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It's over, bitch. | |
| Not a goddamn thing you're going to do about that. | ||
| Not a goddamn thing. | ||
| They're a wild animal. | ||
| It's even the bears that we hunt up in Alberta. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| I mean, they could decide they're wild animals. | ||
| There's all different kinds. | ||
| There's aggressive bears, there's shy bears, there's bears that you can't really get a read on, but it's just like a dog. | ||
| I mean, you don't know. | ||
| They're good and bad bears, so it's just the wrong one. | ||
| Yeah, like all animals have different personalities. | ||
| Like cats, dogs, domestic animals have weird personalities. | ||
| Wild animals do too. | ||
| It's just most of them can't kill you, but bears can. | ||
| All of them can, yeah. | ||
| That's the difference. | ||
| So, you're not interested in that. | ||
| What about eagles? | ||
| You ever interested in cooking up an eagle? | ||
|
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Some eagle balls. | |
| Some eagles on a spit? | ||
| Some eagle balls. | ||
| Rotisserie eagle? | ||
| Nothing like a pair of eagle balls. | ||
| Do eagles have balls? | ||
| I know that they're male and female, but do they have testicles? | ||
| Look that up. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| Is there a bucket list hunt that you'd like to go on? | ||
| Like maybe an elk hunt in the Rocky Mountains? | ||
| Yeah, that'd be awesome, huh? | ||
| Tag along and... | ||
| Do one of those if I can. | ||
| Yeah, there's... | ||
| Well, you know, if you ever do get to Australia, like, they have stag over there that are a lot like elk. | ||
| And they roar. | ||
| You ever heard them roar? | ||
| Oh, dude, they sound like a lion. | ||
| You've heard it in real life? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| Stag roars? | ||
| No. | ||
| They're like... | ||
| They roar. | ||
| It's a crazy sound. | ||
| Jamie will find it for us. | ||
| We've had some good elk hunts, though, Joe and I. We have. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's an elk back there I'll show you in the back that we got just this past fall. | ||
| Fucking huge thing. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's so awesome. | ||
| Massive, massive animal. | ||
| And I've got food back there if you want some. | ||
| You want some elk? | ||
| I'll give you some. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Because you're headed back tonight, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, after Conan. | ||
| We've got to go do that. | ||
| Is that a stag? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, it's a rocky elk bugling. | ||
| We've heard that before. | ||
| But go see Red Stag Roar. | ||
| Google Red Stag. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yeah, listen to this thing. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Look at his face, first of all. | ||
| of all, look at those goddamn antlers. | ||
| Guaranteed. | ||
| That's high fence. | ||
|
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Here we go. | |
| What? | ||
| Look at his dick. | ||
| Yeah, he's horny. | ||
| Just flopping. | ||
| Yeah, I think. | ||
| Look at that rocket. | ||
| A big old red lipstick rocket. | ||
| Imagine if men did that. | ||
| Ladies are so lucky. | ||
| Is he bringing in the female? | ||
| He's trying to call them. | ||
| See that quartering too? | ||
| My Hoyt Turbo would pound right through that shoulder. | ||
| We'd take that shot. | ||
| Would you take that shot? | ||
| Now where would you go? | ||
| Right through the shoulder? | ||
| Point to the spot. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Just right through it. | ||
| Yeah, it would go right through it. | ||
| Cam's shooting the most ridiculously powerful setup we were practicing today, and it's just so evident that these heavy arrows, so much momentum. | ||
| You're at 687 grains? | ||
| Is that what that is? | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| By the way, we were talking grams before, and we meant to say grains, and then we were converting grams to marijuana and calculations. | ||
| Just don't mix. | ||
| We were doing this a long time ago on a podcast, and then I was driving home, and I was like, Jesus Christ, do we say grams when I meant grains? | ||
| And then we were trying to figure out how many grams were in an ounce, and they were determining that it was a pound. | ||
| Like, 500 grams is like a pound. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I'm like, but an arrow's not a pound. | ||
| Like, whatever. | ||
| And we just kept talking about something else. | ||
| And then it took me a while to, like, figure it out. | ||
| It's like saying I was reading a podcast, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But his setup is just preposterous. | ||
| It's unbelievable horsepower. | ||
|
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Shooting good. | |
| Today, man. | ||
| Yeah, shooting good, hitting hard. | ||
| Turbo 80, that thing's pretty cool. | ||
| No, it's not 80. But if you're ever... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It can't be 80. It's not possible. | ||
| We'll talk later. | ||
| We'll talk later. | ||
| That's a trade secret. | ||
| Engineers. | ||
| Oh, oh. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| I remember you told me. | ||
| Oh, okay, yeah. | ||
|
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We'll talk later. | |
| But, yeah, we have our buddy Adam that we were talking about before that lives in Australia, and when Cam goes over there, you're going to be hunting stag over there, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stag, buffalo, and fallow. | ||
| And stag's just like an elk. | ||
| I mean, it's essentially a real similar animal. | ||
| A little smaller. | ||
| Yeah, but it's, I mean, it's that right there. | ||
| Buffalo, though. | ||
| The buffalo. | ||
| Here's a video of him over there hunting a water buffalo from 40 yards, and he's creeping up. | ||
| See if you find that video. | ||
| It's one of my favorites. | ||
| Did you ever read that book, The Last American Buffalo? | ||
| Rinella's book. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I've read part of it. | ||
| I haven't finished it, but I started it and then I put it down and I never went back to it. | ||
| As you get... | ||
|
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It's sort of the first half is a little funky. | |
| It's clunky. | ||
| Shady writing? | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| I'll call Steve right now. | ||
| I did not say that. | ||
|
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He likes to talk about drinking jizz. | |
| He brought it back! | ||
| He wouldn't shut up about that. | ||
| We had moved on. | ||
|
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He insisted on... | |
| He said something about Vin Diesel's sunglasses. | ||
| It was one time. | ||
| One time. | ||
| He doesn't like LA. He lives in San Diego. | ||
| So this is Cam sneaking up on this water buffalo. | ||
| And every time it picks up its eyes or it might have caught movement, he has to pause. | ||
| So this is like a ridiculously slow trek. | ||
| I think I'm... | ||
| I think it's still a little bit before I shoot. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's getting closer. | ||
| So I got my rangefinder there so I can quickly get it because I'm getting closer every time. | ||
| Cam, what do you think about rangefinding binos? | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Head up. | ||
| Don't move. | ||
| Don't move at all. | ||
| If it's coming at you, do you hide behind that little tree? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I just wrestle it down. | ||
| Oh, like a man. | ||
|
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Grab it by that rocket and give it what it needs. | |
| You had on your podcast. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Take down a wolf. | ||
| What was that guy? | ||
| Oh, Dan Pena? | ||
| Dan Pena. | ||
| Yeah, he would just stab it in the dick over and over again. | ||
| Stab it right in the dick. | ||
| So he's creeping up. | ||
| Cam, what are your thoughts on range-finding binos? | ||
| Do you ever use those? | ||
| I don't have any. | ||
| Would you? | ||
| I mean, like, I know, like, there's some companies that make some that bow hunters use, like Leica. | ||
| Leica has one that apparently has a button on the right-hand side so you can range and shoot with one hand. | ||
| This is Adam. | ||
| I don't know what he's filming. | ||
| I saw Chipmunk. | ||
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Mate! | |
| That chipmunk would be a trophy. | ||
| Here's a good illustration of having, I don't know what I'm trying to promote here, but a hard-hitting arrow. | ||
| Because if you watch, when I shoot this buffalo, the arrow arcs up and actually hits the branch and ricochets and still kills that buffalo. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Watch this. | ||
| It's going to hit... | ||
| I think it's this right here. | ||
| It's gonna ricochet off that and still kill this big bastard. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| It's sort of deceptive. | ||
| Here, how many yards are you out? | ||
| It's gonna be like 40. Yeah, it looks like it's like 10 feet in front of him, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's because it's fucking huge. | ||
| Should I skip ahead a little bit? | ||
|
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Yeah, skip ahead a little bit, lad. | |
| Okay, back up. | ||
| Back up, because it looks like you already shot it. | ||
| Yeah, back up. | ||
| Back up. | ||
| Yeah, back up. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Okay, here it is. | ||
| Okay, watch this. | ||
| See that? | ||
| Oh, it kind of touched it almost. | ||
| Just barely grazed it. | ||
| It hit that. | ||
| Yeah, but it affected the flight, but still went and pounded in here, and that's right where you want to... | ||
| That's right into the heart. | ||
| That's where their heart is. | ||
| Do you think you would have got more penetration if it didn't graze that branch? | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| But still, that was a 90-pound bow. | ||
| Yeah, and it's going in six inches deep into the heart. | ||
| Yeah, probably more than that, because those are, I mean, that shoulder is... | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, it's in probably 18 inches. | ||
| And that thing is like, what just happened to me? | ||
| No, it doesn't now. | ||
| It just, it runs into that thing. | ||
| What's really crazy is that Cam was saying that he chewed a piece of meat from that animal. | ||
| It was so tough and so strong. | ||
| You chewed it for a whole half hour, one piece? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was like shoe leather. | ||
| Because this is an old bull. | ||
| It's a tank. | ||
| These things are, I don't know, 1,800 pounds. | ||
| So you have to shoot heavy stuff. | ||
| So do you think you're going to be doing that from now on? | ||
| You're going to be going to a heavier arrow? | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| Or in the range, maybe? | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Possibility? | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| See how this week, or this trip works? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So how do we get you out? | ||
| Scott, what do we do? | ||
| How do we get you out there bow hunting with Cam? | ||
| What's the animal? | ||
| I'll go and mail hunt, for sure. | ||
| Mail hunt? | ||
|
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Is that it? | |
| I'll go and deer hunt with you in Maui. | ||
| Or wherever you're going in Hawaii. | ||
| Lanai. | ||
| Kim, let's do it. | ||
| Get Under Armour on board. | ||
| We'll all wear the clothes and smile. | ||
| Springfield Utility Board, could you fire me today immediately, please? | ||
|
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Just quit. | |
| You've got to quit. | ||
| They don't know you're probably here. | ||
| I'm at work right now. | ||
| You're at work right now, yeah. | ||
| Just punching in. | ||
| Oh, you're screwed. | ||
| What I have to do is a couple of tweets to help the power business. | ||
| So, we should do that though, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We should all do that. | ||
| We'll be fun. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Alright, well, Fast and Furious 8, it's at April 18th is the premiere, is that what it is? | ||
| April 14th. | ||
|
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April 14th. | |
| April 14th is the premiere. | ||
| Listen, brother, it's really fucking cool talking to you, man. | ||
| I really enjoyed it. | ||
|
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It was fun. | |
| Cam, always a pleasure. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And we're going to go run and I'm going to cry. | ||
| So, enjoy Conan. | ||
| You can watch Scott tonight. | ||
| We'll see you soon. |
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