March 12, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:27:53
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Go! | |
| Go live. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Five, four, three, two, one. | ||
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That's a nice chair. | |
| Alright, we're not waiting for Brian Callen any longer. | ||
| We're watching these fights. | ||
| These fights already happened. | ||
| Eddie Bravo's here. | ||
| Hello! | ||
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Hi! | |
| Of course, Brendan Schwab is in the house. | ||
| The UFC from Fortaleza, Brazil, last night. | ||
| I did not watch it. | ||
| I know none of the results. | ||
| I'm so proud of myself. | ||
| I've never done this before. | ||
| So we're going to watch these. | ||
| Brian Callen pretended. | ||
| He forgot what time it is. | ||
| And he pretended that his phone didn't automatically update. | ||
| Like, whose fucking phone doesn't automatically do daylight savings time? | ||
| Bitch, your phone switches over. | ||
| Your phone knows what's going on. | ||
| Bitch, most of us have an Apple iPhone. | ||
| Mine automatically did it. | ||
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Every Android does, too. | |
| He didn't say that, Kitty. | ||
| I had no idea there was a time change. | ||
| I'm more excited for the story. | ||
| I looked at my watch, and I was like, why is my watch wrong? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Like, I knew my watch was wrong. | ||
| Well, like, I just used my phone, and they're like, oh. | ||
| I'm like a farmer. | ||
| I knew because the sun wasn't up, because my kid wakes up, you know, early as fuck. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
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It is not seven o'clock, man, because the sun would be out, you know? | |
| Eddie, do you know any of the results? | ||
| I know one fight. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
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Of course he does. | |
| Of course you do. | ||
| Your boy. | ||
| Yeah, don't even say nothing. | ||
| Don't say nothing. | ||
| And do you know any of the results? | ||
| No. | ||
| I watched the prelims, and I was good. | ||
| And I was lucky because I had boxing. | ||
| Lemieux vs. | ||
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Stevens, which was a fucking fight. | |
| Damn, I heard it was a great fight. | ||
| Some dude got so murked. | ||
| Stevens got murked so bad by a left hook. | ||
| Oh, you just told me. | ||
| You just told me what happened, you son of a bitch. | ||
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Well, fuck, man. | |
| You asked me. | ||
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I recorded it. | |
| Fuck, bro! | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| HBO Boxing. | ||
| Dude, he was out. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Hopefully he's alive. | ||
| Lemieux killed a guy. | ||
| He can crack. | ||
| Both of them can. | ||
| And Lemieux came in heavier and people were like, oh, he might be out of shape. | ||
| And you talk about a high-level fight, championship fight, and dudes were like, fuck 12 rounds. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
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The fight before that, terrible. | |
| Really? | ||
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Awful. | |
| What was that fight? | ||
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I forget the guy. | |
| It was a horrible fight. | ||
| Even Max Kellerman and Lambert were like, God, we apologize. | ||
| Wow, they were apologizing? | ||
| They were like, that was a snooze fest. | ||
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Hopefully this one lives up to it. | |
| And it did. | ||
| I never apologized. | ||
| I don't think I've ever apologized for a fight. | ||
| That's rough. | ||
| I've never heard a guy apologize for a fight. | ||
| They were just kind of clowning on it. | ||
|
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Like, after sitting through that, thank God for this fight. | |
| You know, you guys would never do that. | ||
| Ever, right? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I mean, it'd have to be something that would have to be really wrong. | ||
| But there have been some fights that were really crazy. | ||
| Do you remember that Nate Quarry fight where the dude he was fighting from The Ultimate Fighter? | ||
| Goddammit, I forget the fellow's name. | ||
| But he was literally running away backwards. | ||
| He had broken his foot or something. | ||
|
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Caleb Starnes. | |
| Caleb Starnes, thank you. | ||
| Literally, like, backpedaling. | ||
| And then Nate Quarry starts doing some crazy thing where he puts his hand up in front of his face and he's just walking towards him, like, going like this. | ||
| He's, like, mocking him. | ||
| At least that was fun, though. | ||
| And then the dude gave him two fingers, but he was just not engaging. | ||
| It was real weird. | ||
| Was that the end of the guy's career? | ||
| It was downhill from there, for sure. | ||
| Well, Caleb went to fight in some other organizations, I believe. | ||
| He's good friends with Tate, because they were on the same season. | ||
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That's right. | |
| Was that season two? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Season 2 or 3, Canadian fella, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You were backpedaling nothing against Nate Curry. | ||
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I like that guy. | |
| But you think he was fighting TRT Vitor Belfort the way he was backpedaling. | ||
| I think he hurt something. | ||
| And I think he was like, you know what? | ||
| These guys are not paying me enough. | ||
| Because I think that was his argument, actually, after the fact. | ||
| They're not paying me enough to engage? | ||
| How little he gets paid. | ||
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Bitch, you signed up for it. | |
| But I think his mind was, as soon as he hurt his foot or something like that, he was like, fuck this. | ||
| I'm just going to get through these myths. | ||
| I kind of get that. | ||
| You know, he's like, I can't hit right now, or I can't move right now. | ||
| And then you look at your Dr. Bill or whatever. | ||
| No, you look at your memory, you know? | ||
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Where your memory's gonna go. | |
| What's up, Eddie? | ||
| Victor, Vitor Belfort did not look like a... | ||
| TRT Vitor. | ||
| Yeah, he's definitely clean. | ||
| The golden snitch is out everywhere. | ||
| He gets to Brazil. | ||
| Did you see the fucking odds on the fight? | ||
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Yes. | |
| I don't know who won the fight. | ||
| I don't know a goddamn thing, but I know the odds were crazy in Kelvin's favor. | ||
| It kind of makes sense, though, right? | ||
| Three and a half to one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It makes sense, though. | |
| Think about Vitor's last fight. | ||
| It's Gegard, then who Weidman before that. | ||
| Like, he just hasn't looked great at all, especially in that first round. | ||
| I have to fucking love Kelvin at 185. I know people always say, what about your old Romero, bro? | ||
| See, I love him. | ||
| I don't like him with the top five matchups. | ||
| See, I think if he just lifts weights, just gets in serious condition, I do like him at 185. That's a big if, though, isn't it? | ||
| Because still his reach and everything. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| He looked pretty goddamn good here. | ||
| He looked different. | ||
| He looked thick. | ||
| I mean, Kelvin's never going to look like a bodybuilder. | ||
| That's not his build. | ||
| He's like Dan Henderson. | ||
| He's got a warrior's body. | ||
| Like, that motherfucker, he could go for days. | ||
| But then you add muscle, to your point, you add muscle, then what? | ||
| Yeah, Vitor looks so different. | ||
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Vitor has that straight up dad TRT bod. | |
| Like, he got off of it, and then just straight dad. | ||
| I mean, he still looks scary, but nothing like the Rockhold Vitor. | ||
| Rockhold Vitor, for me, top three scariest fighters of all time. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I was thinking about last night. | ||
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There he is, right there. | |
| There he is. | ||
| Look how goddamn jacked he was. | ||
| And quick, spinning wheel kicks and shit. | ||
| Remember he beat the brakes off Anthony Johnson? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| God! | ||
| Look how jacked he is when he threw that wheelchair. | ||
| Look at that shoulder. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| His abs have muscles. | ||
| Don't you wish he was still like that? | ||
| Part of me does. | ||
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Yeah, me too. | |
| He can go to Ryzen. | ||
| No, he should. | ||
| No. | ||
| He can easily go to Ryzen and get paid. | ||
| And do that? | ||
| Yeah, on TRT? Well, look at what Krokop did. | ||
| Krokop went over there. | ||
| Krokop's still doing it. | ||
| You just gotta wonder how many does Vitor have left? | ||
| 20 years! | ||
| 20 years! | ||
| But I think these guys on TRT, they can compete way longer than that. | ||
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Even 20 years? | |
| I think if you let Vitor take whatever the fuck he wants and let him go over to Japan... | ||
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Oh, he's spinning wheel-kicking bitches face off to 60. He's gonna be doing some crazy shit. | |
| But here's the question. | ||
| Would he... | ||
| Would he be as aggressive if he was fighting another dude on TRT? Oh yeah. | ||
| You think so? | ||
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Think about back in the day. | |
| Think about when he fought Vanderlei when he was 19. Those motherfuckers were juice monkeys. | ||
| Literally, he was so aggressive. | ||
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Remember? | |
| No technique. | ||
| Just the fucking bodybuilder straight punch like this. | ||
| We caught him with a straight left and he was wearing shoes. | ||
| Remember that fight? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He was wearing wrestling shoes. | ||
| Brazilian on Brazilian crime. | ||
| If Ryzen sticks around and they become like... | ||
| As powerful as Pride was, and they just don't disappear like a bunch of other shows, there's gonna be an outlet, a very big outlet for people to retire from the UFC and get back on TRT. Like a master's tour? | ||
| Jumpstart their career. | ||
| Do you know about 1FC's weight cutting program? | ||
| Do you know about it? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Rich Franklin was helping with that, right? | ||
| Because you want to talk about a guy who cut a lot of weight. | ||
| Yeah, those guys, they've got some new innovative way, they think, to diminish the amount of weight guys cut. | ||
| I don't know exactly how they're doing it, but I think it has something to do with hydration tests. | ||
| See if you can pull that up, Jamie. | ||
| 1FC... Okay. | ||
| Can you imagine in negotiations, like rise in negotiations, they say, you know you want to do TRT. Come on, man. | ||
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We'll give it to you. | |
| We'll give you the best shit. | ||
| We'll hook it up for you. | ||
| They have it right there on the table. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom, boom, with the needle. | ||
| You know how many guys are going to sign that? | ||
| Come on. | ||
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You know you want it. | |
| You know you want it. | ||
| And just highlights of when they're on TRT. Pictures, posters. | ||
| We can do this. | ||
| The ultimate presentation. | ||
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We can do this. | |
| You walk into the room and there's 20 foot high screens of Vitor, wheel kicking, rock holding the head. | ||
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Bisping's eye all fucked up. | |
| Can you imagine the presentation? | ||
| They'll just put it the ultimate highlight. | ||
| Did you lock the door? | ||
| Lock the door. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| Good man. | ||
| Well, sit down. | ||
| Have a seat. | ||
| What's up, man? | ||
| No, no, no handshake. | ||
| Are you sick? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| You knuckling everybody? | ||
| You're a boxer now, right? | ||
| You just touched knuckles? | ||
| I knuckle, man. | ||
| Have a seat, goddammit. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Put the headsets on. | ||
| This is a good fight. | ||
| They talked a lot of shit. | ||
| Of course they did. | ||
| Well, the first fight, Tim Means hit him with an illegal knee that a lot of us were unsure of. | ||
| I fucked that one up, too. | ||
| I use illegal knees all the time. | ||
| See, because he's got one knee on the ground, two hands up, and we're like, ooh. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| All he had on the ground was a knee. | ||
| He actually had even lifted his other leg up, and he didn't even have his foot on the ground. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So it was like, you know, there was that whole thing of points of contact. | ||
| Say you'd have to have at least three points of contact. | ||
| He actually only had one point of contact. | ||
| But if it's not the bottom of your foot, it doesn't count. | ||
| So that's where it was so confusing. | ||
| So confusing that even Mark Ratner, when we went to him in the fight for clarification on the rules, he said it was legal. | ||
| He said it was a legal knee. | ||
| And then Big John McCarthy pulls me over and goes, no! | ||
| He goes, that's fucking illegal. | ||
| I go, okay, it is illegal. | ||
| I go, so when you say points of contact... | ||
| Like, if it's only just a knee, if only the knee's on the ground, and the foot's not even on the ground, and the other foot's off the ground, that's a downed opponent? | ||
| And he's like, yes, anything but the soles of the feet. | ||
| That's what it should say. | ||
| Anything but the soles of the feet. | ||
| So my thought was, well, what if some guy shoots a power double on you? | ||
| Right? | ||
| And his knees on the ground as he's sliding in, which it often is. | ||
| And you fucking knee him to oblivion as he's moving into that... | ||
| It's a transition, so it doesn't count, right? | ||
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Does it? | |
| No. | ||
| Is that a transition? | ||
| But that's not really a transition. | ||
| I mean, that's a guy making his approach and you're countering his approach, and he's a downed opponent. | ||
| He's got a knee on the ground, he's sliding towards you. | ||
| I think that's a downed opponent. | ||
| But it would not be the same like with a wheel kick. | ||
| A lot of times it's behind the ear, but it's in transition. | ||
| That's a creepy one. | ||
| I think it's different, but similar. | ||
| Very similar. | ||
| Eddie and I have talked about that a million times, because it's the best position to be if you get the guy's back. | ||
| You see a wheel kick coming, you want to turn your head, right? | ||
| You want to turn your face? | ||
| No, you can't turn your face! | ||
| Listen, man, there's no good place to take a wheel kick. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Except the body. | ||
| I would rather take one on the arm or on the body and live. | ||
| Still not good. | ||
| No, it's horrible. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| It's a bone breaker, for sure. | ||
| It's so crazy that you have to pad up your hands, but you are allowed to spin and with all of your body weight, put it in your heel. | ||
| And what Edson Barboza did to Terry Edom, remember that one? | ||
| Terry Edom's jumping the buses now. | ||
| He was never the same again after that knockout. | ||
| I mean, never the same again. | ||
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No? | |
| Never the same again. | ||
| Never fought at that level again. | ||
| And that grazed the top of his head. | ||
| No, that bounced off his head. | ||
| You'll see it a million times. | ||
| It sounded like a melon getting hit with a bat. | ||
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Maybe a person. | |
| But the highlight, it doesn't look like it connects flush. | ||
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It goes, boom, top of the head. | |
| I'd have to see that again. | ||
| These entire fights, they kept showing that. | ||
| And I was like, God, it doesn't look like it was a fucking straight up heel to the grill. | ||
| I'd have to see it again. | ||
| But the amount of power that you have in all of your body weight, if you have a really good one, and you can generate all that fucking torque, and your leg comes up, and there's so much weight behind it. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why I stopped fighting was a knockout when I was 19 years old in Anaheim. | ||
| I wheel kicked this guy in the head and he never got up. | ||
| They carried him off the mat. | ||
| They had him in a stretcher for half an hour and then they brought him to the hospital. | ||
| It scared the shit out of me. | ||
| My heel was sore. | ||
| My heel. | ||
| My heel. | ||
| Not my fucking heel. | ||
| The hard part from his face was sore for days. | ||
| For like two days I was walking with a little limp. | ||
| Dude, I was thinking about that last night when Stevens got knocked out by Lemieux, and he's just laying there, and there's a stretcher, there's like five minutes go by, and you'd see him breathing, and Max Kellerman goes, well, at least he's breathing. | ||
| And then his mom is cage-sided, and it takes all the fun out of the knockout. | ||
| I was like, oh, hell yeah. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| What kind of knockout? | ||
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Boxing, left hook. | |
| They're exchanged left hooks. | ||
| Oh, out, out. | ||
| Lemieux got knocked out? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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Stevenson. | |
| Anyways, but when he's out on the ground, I was thinking to myself, what's the protocol? | ||
| So he's being rushed to the hospital. | ||
| They're looking for brain bleeding there, I guess? | ||
| So when the guy's out more than four minutes, you're in trouble. | ||
| A lot of trouble. | ||
| Yeah, they have to have really experienced guys who have dealt with those kind of traumatic brain injuries on site to get it and handle it right. | ||
| That's one of the real issues with those smaller shows where people that want to do smokers If you're doing a smoker, someone could easily get head kicked with a smoker. | ||
| And by the way, wheel kicks are legal in a smoker. | ||
| So think about that. | ||
| Think about everybody's wearing those padded shin and insteps, but you're not padding up your heel. | ||
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No. | |
| If someone decides to spin on you and they catch you in the side of the head, it doesn't matter if you're wearing headgear. | ||
| Let somebody wheel kick you in the head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like getting hit by a tree. | ||
| Your leg is so fucking big. | ||
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It's a goddamn baseball bat. | |
| To your face. | ||
| Dude, I'll tell you who you want by your bedside is Dr. Davidson. | ||
| There it is right here. | ||
| Oh yeah, Dr. Davidson's amazing. | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Dr. Davidson for the UFC. Here it is. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Watch this though. | ||
| And in fast motion, the sound is horrible. | ||
| Oh my god, what a perfect left. | ||
| And then he falls into this thing. | ||
| He's like that for the next four or five minutes. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| They turn the camera away. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Well, you know what, man? | ||
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Right here. | |
| Exchange of hooks. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Such a perfect punch, too. | ||
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He eats it, too. | |
| Oh, damn. | ||
| Talk about a power punch or both these boys. | ||
| What a perfectly landed punch. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Remember, Lemieux got dismantled by Triple G, too, which is so impressive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In fast motion, you're like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| He didn't necessarily get dismantled. | ||
| He got the shit beat out of him, but he took that fight into deeper water than a lot of people expected. | ||
| Yeah, but Triple G threw 50-something jabs in the first round because he thought he was going to bang with him. | ||
| Triple G, you see his jab, you're like, oh my god, he has a full-class jab. | ||
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He can box, too. | |
| He can fucking box. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, Lemieux didn't really have a chance the whole time. | ||
| He definitely didn't have a chance, but he definitely landed some shots. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, he definitely tested Triple G more than anybody had in recent fights before that. | ||
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I'm a Lemieux fan, man. | |
| Me too. | ||
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Oof. | |
| Like, maybe Kel Brooks tested him a little bit, too, before Triple G got to him, but his corner was like, throw the towel in as soon as it looks sketchy. | ||
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They did the right move, too. | |
| They did. | ||
| He's about to eat the fuck up. | ||
| But he couldn't see out of his eye. | ||
| They were like, yeah, good enough. | ||
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Yeah, good job, bro. | |
| That's a good effort. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| Good for them, bro, doing this. | ||
| Who was that guy that fought Lomachenko and pulled out way early? | ||
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Oh, you're talking about the Jamaican family? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But he was like, I think he was 3-2-0, and then they were like, he's never going to live this down. | ||
| He wasn't getting his ass whooped. | ||
| He was just like, I can't beat him, I'm good. | ||
| He probably realized he was so outclassed. | ||
| Lomachenko's so much fun to watch. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| What the guy said in the post-fight interview, he's like, I saw where this was going. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He wanted to live to fight another day. | ||
| That makes sense to me. | ||
| That's a smart fighter. | ||
| Max Kellerman says to him, don't you think, you know, a lot of people usually, we envy those that go out on their shield. | ||
| He's like, no, I get that. | ||
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Yeah, that's Lemachenko, though. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, I'm definitely going to get this shit kicked out of me. | ||
| I think there's a lot of times where a guy's moving around fine, he looks good on TV, but he knows in his head that he is tuned up and one shot away from going unconscious. | ||
| And guys just go, that's it. | ||
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We got it. | |
| Or he's just out of tricks. | ||
| Or he's just like, that guy's figured out all my patterns, he can do whatever he wants to me, and I'm going to be just a punching bag. | ||
| Well, you remember when Nigel Benn fought... | ||
| What was the homeboy's name? | ||
| Gerald McClellan. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Round one. | ||
| Yeah, this is round one of Oliveira, Tim Means. | ||
| It's 48, 49, 46 seconds into the... | ||
| This should be violent. | ||
| The number on the screen is 41, 40, 39, 38, 37, 36. Alright, sync it up. | ||
| Thank you, Jamie. | ||
| What were we just talking about, Lomachenko? | ||
| You're talking about... | ||
| Oh, that guy knowing that it was never going to work out for him. | ||
| He was just getting boxed up. | ||
| The Gerald McClellan fight, when Gerald went down and took a knee, there wasn't some big punch that landed before that. | ||
| It was an accumulation of all the stuff that led up to that moment. | ||
| And when he quit, they were kind of shocked. | ||
| Like, no! | ||
| You know what fight was like that? | ||
| The Cotto-Manny Pacquiao fight? | ||
| After the third round, you could hear Freddie going, you gotta take him out. | ||
| And when we spoke to Freddie after, I don't want to tell him, but he said, why didn't he knock him out when he could have? | ||
| And Freddie said, well, he didn't want to hurt him. | ||
| That's public knowledge. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was crazy, man. | ||
| But his corner set to Miguel was like, if we don't see any improvement, we're going to stop it here. | ||
| This is getting bad, man. | ||
| And then Manny just didn't want to hurt him. | ||
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He goes, I could have knocked him out. | |
| I didn't want to hurt him. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
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God, I love him. | |
| What a nice guy he is. | ||
| What a nice guy. | ||
| It's so weird that he's so nice and yet such a killer. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's a really odd... | ||
| He's a world champion. | ||
| He really is, isn't he? | ||
| It's good stuff going on right here, guys. | ||
| He was wild as fuck and then he found Jesus. | ||
| Means he's trying to get up and he's doing a pretty good job inch by inch. | ||
| Where is Means high level jujitsu, obviously? | ||
| Yeah, Means is a full rounded guy. | ||
| He's one of the best guys at 170. He's just like a hair under some of the other top guys. | ||
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He's not great at injury. | |
| He's good at everything. | ||
| He's fun to watch. | ||
| He's great at elbows. | ||
| That motherfucker's got some nasty elbows. | ||
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He has some good elbows. | |
| I wouldn't say... | ||
| He's not like top five. | ||
| In the division? | ||
| No. | ||
| In elbows? | ||
| I think he is. | ||
| I'm saying top five overall. | ||
| He might have the best elbows in the 170-pound division. | ||
| I'm not bullshitting. | ||
| That is aggressive, sir. | ||
| I'm telling you, his elbows, especially in the stand-up positions, are nasty. | ||
| He throws them real crisp. | ||
| He throws them in tight positions. | ||
| Everything is real efficient. | ||
| It's all done with real solid technique. | ||
| I mean, there's better fighters than him, currently. | ||
| You know, there's guys that have a full, complete game. | ||
| There's guys like, you know, beasts like Tyron Woodley or like Damian Maia. | ||
| I mean, Damian Maia's just a goddamn beast. | ||
| The top ten would be tough for him. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be tough for him, but he's close. | ||
| Yeah, Oliveira's all over him. | ||
| Yeah, he's two good takedowns. | ||
| You know what happened in the first fight? | ||
| So, the first fight was called a no contest. | ||
| Because of the knee? | ||
| Because of the knee, yeah. | ||
| That's what it was called, right? | ||
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So confusing. | |
| It was weird because they said it was an unintentional foul, but clearly he thought it was legal, so it was intentional. | ||
| They call him the Dirty Bird? | ||
| Isn't that his nickname? | ||
| Yeah, it's his nickname. | ||
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Dude, he's one of the guys who got caught by the going snitch and actually won. | |
| Look at that, three times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He got caught by the Golden Snitch with this tiny amount of some shit that was in a supplement that he bought. | ||
| And so they bought the supplement randomly from a store and they found the exact same stuff. | ||
| You don't look at Tim Means Body and go, ah, steroids. | ||
| Well, it doesn't matter, man. | ||
| There's dudes that have taken steroids and they don't really lift weights. | ||
| They just train jujitsu and MMA and they don't look any bigger than anybody else. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Steroids, I mean, the real thing is the guys that lift weights. | ||
| When Lance Armstrong was taking hormones and all the shit he was taking, he didn't look jacked. | ||
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No, that's the misconception. | |
| Everyone thinks they're going to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. | ||
| They could be doping just for oxidating their blood. | ||
| There are a lot of things, right? | ||
| Well, it's also the testosterone aids in recovery. | ||
| But the big thing is, the only way you're getting bigger is if you're lifting weights. | ||
| It's resistance exercise. | ||
| That's what makes your body get bigger. | ||
| It's not going to get bigger just by... | ||
| You get a little bit bigger just by doing kickboxing. | ||
| Add some lean muscle, do some weight. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| But you're never going to look like Hector Lombard or anything. | ||
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Dude, I would love to see... | |
| I know this is a random-ass fight, but Cowboy's coming off a lot. | ||
| I'd like to see Don Cerrone Cowboy versus Tim Means. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That'd be a scrap. | |
| Wasn't that scheduled at one point in time? | ||
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In Denver, maybe, I feel like? | |
| Boy, why am I making that up? | ||
| Don't you feel like that'd be a fucking scrap? | ||
| Oh, it'd be insane fight. | ||
| That's why I like to watch Tim, because he's kind of like that Matt Brown type of crazy pace. | ||
| Well, he also has really good stand-up, and he's a big, tall guy. | ||
| And Donald has that nasty Muay Thai and really good leg kicks. | ||
| I like that Donald's taking some time off. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love that he's taking some time off. | ||
| Just chill, man. | ||
| Just chill out. | ||
| Let's come up with a game plan to make you world champion. | ||
| Yeah, you were so right about how tough that fight was with Matt Brown, despite the victory, despite the fact that he won it. | ||
| You've got to remember, he did get dropped in that fight. | ||
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Yeah, but all we see is the highlight of that head kick, but it's like, fuck, man, that was a tough go. | |
| Yeah, there was a lot going on that fight. | ||
| I saw the new King Kong movie because I'm 12. Is it good? | ||
|
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Loved it because I'm 12. They can't make enough King Kongs for me. | |
| I love them. | ||
| This is probably the best one ever. | ||
|
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Is it good? | |
| Guys, another space movie. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| They went full on diversity in this King Kong. | ||
| First of all, there's no rape. | ||
| King Kong no longer steals the girl. | ||
| In every other movie, King Kong gets a girl and is like, oh, I got this, and just runs off of her. | ||
| And this one, he just protects her, and he never tries to fuck her, and he's so much bigger than any other King Kong in the past. | ||
| This new King Kong, literally a girl is not even a lighter in his hand. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The new King Kong is way bigger than the King Kong that climbed the Empire State Building. | ||
| Is it the son of the old King Kong? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's a totally new story. | ||
| It's a reboot. | ||
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Oh, you can't do that. | |
| Oh, it's a new story? | ||
| Totally new story. | ||
| Completely different story. | ||
| I thought Kong had a kid. | ||
| All the natives on the island are all Asian now. | ||
| No more black people. | ||
| The problem with that is that mountain gorillas should be in the Congo and they should be black. | ||
| South Pacific. | ||
| And this is an island that time forgot. | ||
| It's a hollow earth. | ||
| And inside there's these demons. | ||
| And then there's Kong. | ||
| And Kong's actually the hero. | ||
| He protects them from the demons. | ||
| Spoiler alert! | ||
| Okay, but... | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Yeah, I'm here to tell you. | ||
| Kong is in the movie the entire time. | ||
| But wait, who are the demons? | ||
| Who are the demons? | ||
| Some things that live in the hollow earth. | ||
| They live in the middle of the ground. | ||
| Ah, that's fake, bro. | ||
| Round two. | ||
| Those guys were like high-fiving each other at the beginning. | ||
| You wanted to hug him. | ||
| Yeah, Olivera did. | ||
| And he said no. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Ducking that wheel kick. | ||
| Don't ever pull that shit on me. | ||
| Don't ever bring that shit into my cage again. | ||
| That's not a good situation. | ||
| That's what I say when guys try to wheel kick. | ||
| I go, don't ever bring that shit into my cage again. | ||
| Do you ever have fantasies that you do that to someone? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| Of course I do. | ||
| Who are you talking to? | ||
| My whole life is a fantasy. | ||
| Do you ever wonder why? | ||
| Why would you even want to say that to somebody? | ||
| Because I want to be cool, the earth and everybody, that's why. | ||
| Right, but you gotta understand that if you were that cool person, you would not have said that. | ||
| I know that, dude, but my fantasy is to do this. | ||
| I want to do this. | ||
| If he had done that, I want to stop, pull back and go, oh, you want to dance? | ||
| And then I come in with a fucking hurricane. | ||
| Yeah, see, that's what I'm worried about with you. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's like your mind thinks the world is a movie. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Like a really shitty action movie. | ||
| And I'm the star. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Adam Hunt, who told me he was in a fist fight with someone once, and as they were getting ready to go at it, he was a drunk dude, and the dude was like, tonight we dine in hell! | ||
| Oh, hell no. | ||
| That's embarrassing. | ||
| He really did say that. | ||
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Now did Adam beat the show? | |
| Or did the guy Spartan kick him in the face? | ||
| Adam's a nice guy, and I believe that Adam was sober at the time. | ||
| And Adam's a very good wrestler, by the way. | ||
| Yes, he was a high school wrestler. | ||
| We wrestled at the same high school. | ||
| I think what he did was just took the guy down or held on to him. | ||
| I was like, get this fucking guy away from me. | ||
| Tonight, we dine in hell. | ||
| I was just saying that to somebody. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Tonight, we dine in hell. | ||
| If he's just a savage, it's awesome. | ||
|
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Or he just thinks it's like the movies. | |
| Well, if it wasn't in a movie, it would still be ridiculous even if it wasn't in a movie. | ||
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I would turn and run if I've never heard that before and some guy goes, tonight we dine in hell. | |
| Like, damn, you're willing to risk some shit I'm not. | ||
| I would be saying, keep talking, stupid. | ||
| Keep talking. | ||
| The more you're talking... | ||
| The more it's good. | ||
| Bro, tonight we dine in hell? | ||
| Yeah, I would say, yeah, keep talking. | ||
| Tell me more. | ||
| Tell me more. | ||
| Make up some other shit so you'll be distracted when I punch you in the face. | ||
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I'd say someone needs to record this shit because these are good lines before we fight. | |
| This shit is epic. | ||
| But I think the guy was just very fortunate that Adam's a good guy. | ||
| Oh, Oliveira with the back. | ||
| Oliveira's got his back here. | ||
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Triangle. | |
| That body triangle's such a bitch. | ||
| Doesn't look good. | ||
| Oh, he's got it! | ||
| Oh, he's under the chin! | ||
| How do you get out of that? | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| Shit. | ||
| He got to tap! | ||
| And revenge. | ||
| Revenge for Oliveira. | ||
|
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Oliveira can be a little mean too. | |
| Oh, there we go. | ||
|
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Oh, he's cool. | |
| Oh, they're good. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Alright, don't do that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Hey, Tim goes, get up. | ||
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Get up, bro. | |
| Don't do that. | ||
| Please don't do that. | ||
| Yeah, those guys that like to do that, get on your knees, kneeling shit in front of each other. | ||
| Some dudes just don't play. | ||
| Remember Pat Berry and Crow Cop? | ||
| How they were just hugging. | ||
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Wheel kick to the face! | |
| Hug. | ||
| High five. | ||
| That was weird. | ||
| Such a weird fight. | ||
| And didn't Pat Berry break his hand real early on in that fight, too? | ||
| Yeah, and then got choked out. | ||
| They gave me Crow Cop when Joe Silva comes up to me and goes, you better not fucking Pat Barry and show him too much love. | ||
| I was like, Jesus, man. | ||
| I'll try my best. | ||
| I will try my best, sir. | ||
| They take it back with the trip. | ||
| That was a cool trip. | ||
| That's a big win for Oliveira after losing in a fucked up way. | ||
| Because before he lost with that knee, before the fight was stopped, he was getting tuned up. | ||
| Huge win. | ||
| I don't think I've seen anybody get out of a body triangle. | ||
| How do you do that? | ||
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It happens all the time. | |
| Do you lean towards the side that it's locked up on and puts pressure in the ankle? | ||
| There's ways, if you have good dexterity, that you can clear the leg. | ||
| You gotta know how to do it. | ||
| You gotta know how to put your weight down and angle your hips down. | ||
| It's a slow process to open up that triangle. | ||
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Guys can do it. | |
| But when you're getting punched in the face every time you reach for that ankle. | ||
| Well, the worst is when a guy's got you belly down. | ||
| Belly down with that body triangle. | ||
| It feels like your back's going to break. | ||
| It's so much pressure. | ||
| Hey, that's three in a row for a cowboy. | ||
| Because that's not a loss. | ||
| No, the last one's not a loss. | ||
| I think that's three in a row for a homeboy. | ||
| Boy, he's jacked. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| Marvel. | ||
| Oh, there's a new Marvel? | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Fist of Fury. | ||
| What? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Is that what this is? | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| Is this the Kung Fu guy? | ||
| Dude, I used to watch this. | ||
| Read this comic book when I was a kid. | ||
|
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I've never heard of it. | |
| It's terrible. | ||
| It's going to be the worst one ever. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, but look at his hair. | ||
| Whatever happened to that Daredevil one? | ||
| Is that still around? | ||
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The series? | |
| I think so. | ||
| I think it does pretty well, doesn't it? | ||
| That's a Netflix one too, right? | ||
| Damn, he's got a magic fist though. | ||
|
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Flash. | |
| I watched Doctor Strange the other day. | ||
|
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I heard it's good. | |
| It's not bad. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| Doctor Strange. | ||
| I was a big fan of it when I was a kid. | ||
| So for me, it was like, wow, this is cool to see them do their take on the story with all new special effects. | ||
| I heard that Logan movie's the shit. | ||
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Me too. | |
| I heard it so far. | ||
| It's supposed to be like the best superhero movie ever. | ||
| Jamie saw it. | ||
| Didn't you love it, Jamie? | ||
|
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It's really good, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Hey man, a little more enthusiasm. | |
| Well, I mean... | ||
| I wouldn't go with the love it. | ||
| I wouldn't go with the love it. | ||
| Was it rated R? Yeah, it was rated R, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of shit and violence and whatnot. | ||
| B-Shot with the throwing stars on his jacket. | ||
| What's up, dog? | ||
|
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Don't be scared. | |
| Dude, the shoot again. | ||
| Shoot again. | ||
| Dude, that's impressive. | ||
|
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Thanks, man. | |
| Throwing stars are underrated, man. | ||
| I carry them all the time. | ||
| Dude, I... Yeah, I want to see Logan though. | ||
| I heard it's really, really good. | ||
| You know how Deadpool's up for an award? | ||
| That's how Logan's supposed to be. | ||
| I think King Kong's going to beat it. | ||
| I'm always down for King Kong, man. | ||
| King Kong. | ||
| King Kong. | ||
| Is this called Kong or Kong? | ||
| I'm not paying attention. | ||
| Kong, K-O-N-G. But you know what the problem is? | ||
| Like, whenever he gets in a fight with something, you know he's not gonna get killed by some monster. | ||
| Like, there's zero drama. | ||
| And so he's like, okay, how's this gonna play out? | ||
| When does King Kong get to fuck him up? | ||
| Because it's gonna happen. | ||
| You're not gonna let this demon monster thing beat up King Kong in King Kong's fucking movie. | ||
| Now that would be a movie, right? | ||
| That's a good movie right there. | ||
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A little twist. | |
| And it's really about demons and not that stupid girl. | ||
| And then he dies. | ||
| He dies like with 15 minutes left in the movie. | ||
| Just get you off guard. | ||
| Or you do a subtle movie where he gets a virus and he's got a cold and then he dies quietly. | ||
| Or he dies right away, but then the rest of the movie is like going back in time. | ||
| You find out how he got killed. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| What do you think by making King Kong this big, they're trying to set up a King Kong vs. | ||
| Godzilla movie? | ||
|
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Oh, that's happening. | |
| It's already happened, is it? | ||
| It has happened back in the Japanese days. | ||
| Well, no, but I guarantee they're making it now. | ||
| And then they'll throw some Avengers in there and shit. | ||
| Because now King Kong is as big as Godzilla. | ||
| Like, this new King Kong is as big as Godzilla. | ||
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I don't like that. | |
| Let's live a little more realistically. | ||
| I feel like a giant ape would have an advantage over a giant lizard. | ||
| Because a lizard, basically, it's got his claws, but they're not his dexers. | ||
| He breathes fire! | ||
| Have you seen Godzilla? | ||
| Oh, he does, doesn't he? | ||
| He breathes fire. | ||
| Yes, he breathes fucking fire. | ||
| Oh, you know what? | ||
| 1933 to 2017. Look at the difference between all the King Kongs. | ||
|
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See, I'm a fan of that 76 Kong. | |
| Not too big, not too small. | ||
| King Kong Escapes 1967. That must be the Japanese version. | ||
|
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. | |
| Yeah, so the original King Kong was only 18 feet tall. | ||
| That's not that tall. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| See, but that's realistic. | ||
| But the Kong on Skull Island is huge. | ||
| He's 100 feet tall. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| Well, how big is he? | ||
| Is that Skull Island one? | ||
| So he's 100 feet tall? | ||
| In Jack Black he's only half tall? | ||
| He was 148 feet tall in King Kong vs. | ||
| Godzilla in 62 in Japan. | ||
| Simply too big. | ||
| 148 is huge. | ||
| But isn't Godzilla 500 feet tall? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Where does he hide if he is anyway? | ||
| Dude, that Godzilla movie sucked. | ||
| Remember the Godzilla movie? | ||
| Yeah, with Bryan Cranston. | ||
| P. Diddy was in it? | ||
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No, P. Diddy sang the theme song. | |
| Oh yeah, that was dog shit. | ||
| That's how you know it was bad. | ||
| That's definitely not good. | ||
| Yeah, look how big Godzilla is. | ||
| Oh, Godzilla started off, he was only 50 meters high, so he's 100, what is that? | ||
| That's 150 feet. | ||
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See, I like my God's 50 meters high. | |
| 50 meters, but there's like a little bit more. | ||
| How do you do meters? | ||
| I think it's like you add one... | ||
| 3.3? | ||
| 3 foot 0.3 inches or something? | ||
| Yeah, to compare it to yards, there's like some simple way of doing it. | ||
| It's like 50 meters is like 55 yards, I think. | ||
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God, that 2014 Godzilla is fucking huge. | |
| Real similar. | ||
| Yeah, so the 2014 Godzilla was the biggest one. | ||
| That was the Bryan Cranston Godzilla. | ||
| The old one wasn't even that big. | ||
| I like the latest one. | ||
| The latest one was good. | ||
| He doesn't fly, does he? | ||
| He doesn't fly either. | ||
| Yeah, but he lives in the ocean, dude. | ||
| Oh, he lives in the ocean. | ||
|
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Hey, man. | |
| You know what, Godzilla? | ||
| Godzilla, you don't know shit about Godzilla. | ||
| He can eat 86 tuna in one sitting. | ||
| He ate a lot of nuclear waste or something. | ||
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Yeah, he came out of the ocean. | |
| Well, he's firing lasers with his eyes and shit. | ||
| Well, it was because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, those bombs that we dropped on Japan. | ||
| Hiroshima and Nagasaki. | ||
| That's why those monsters came out of there, and they were all about radiation. | ||
| Mothra, Gamera. | ||
|
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It makes sense. | |
| Yeah, those people were terrified. | ||
|
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It kind of makes sense. | |
| Of course. | ||
| Those people were terrified. | ||
| Next weekend, Manuel vs. | ||
| Anderson. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
|
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Oh, that's my birthday, son. | |
| March 18th. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What are you doing on your birthday, man? | ||
| Absolutely nothing. | ||
| Are you not a big birthday celebrator? | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Don't give a fuck. | |
| Do you want to do a fight companion on your birthday? | ||
| That would be fun, huh? | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| That's at 2 o'clock here. | ||
|
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Perfect. | |
| A little afternoon. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| When is that? | ||
| Next fight companion. | ||
| Next fight companion. | ||
|
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Next Saturday. | |
| 2 p.m. | ||
| Eddie, you in town? | ||
| This Saturday? | ||
| This next coming one. | ||
| March 18th. | ||
| Yeah, March 18th. | ||
| That's my son's birthday party. | ||
| Your son's born on March 18th? | ||
| 16th. | ||
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I'm on the 18th. | |
| Shout out to Pisces. | ||
| Powerful Pisces. | ||
| Do you follow all that astrology shit? | ||
| My mom did, so I grew up knowing a lot of it. | ||
| But does it mean anything to you? | ||
| Do you identify with being a Pisces? | ||
| Does it make sense? | ||
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Sometimes. | |
| You're like, God damn it, that's me. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
|
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Isn't it weird? | |
| People think it's bullshit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, what's shocking to me about it is how intricate it is when you look at all the things they take into consideration when they try to, like, assess your personality or what you are, like, based on your, you know, where Mercury is in retrograde. | ||
| It's crazy, man. | ||
| What time of the day was it? | ||
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You meet a scorpion, she's a girl, she a freak. | |
| It's been my experience. | ||
| All scorpions are beasts. | ||
| Scorpio. | ||
| You know what's weird about the astrology thing is that there's 12 signs, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And in music, there's 12 notes, right? | ||
| Look at the show in here. | ||
| The Vitor at 19. Yep. | ||
| When he fought Trey Tellegang. | ||
| Young John McCarthy. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| That was him against Vanderlei. | ||
|
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So gangster. | |
| Dude, look at the explosion. | ||
| He was phenomenal. | ||
| Dude, he was phenomenal. | ||
|
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One of the greats. | |
| No doubt. | ||
|
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Mount Rushmore. | |
| Yeah, when you think about who he was when he first started, man, until Randy Couture beat him down. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And then everybody was like, oh, okay, he's human. | ||
| When he fought Randy Couture, I think he was literally 235 pounds. | ||
| He was at least that. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He might have been 240. I've never seen traps like that in my life. | ||
| Have you heard the story about his sister? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| His sister was killed, man. | ||
| Not just killed. | ||
| They did that thing, supposedly, that they do where they light you up on fire inside tires. | ||
|
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Cartel shit. | |
| Yeah, I think they call it microwaving or something like that. | ||
|
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Jesus Christ, Doug. | |
| You don't get over that. | ||
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That's when he got, yeah, that's a beast. | |
| That's how they get rid of the body, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They put you inside tires and they let you on fire. | ||
| And they wanted a ransom or something from them, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then they couldn't find her. | ||
| Horrible story, man. | ||
| Scary shit, dude. | ||
| There's some evil fucks in this world. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Super scary. | ||
| Yeah, so he had to recover from all that. | ||
| That took a long time. | ||
| Then when he went over to Pride, he really wasn't the same guy. | ||
| He grew his hair out, had like that wet jerry curl. | ||
| And then he came back to the UFC and had some fights where he looked sensational, you know? | ||
| I hear stories like that and they ruin literally my fucking day. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to know that people are capable of that, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's hard to... | ||
| That's happening almost every day in the Middle East. | ||
| People are getting blown up. | ||
| Civilians, women, children. | ||
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Yeah, in Mexico. | |
| It's going on all over the place. | ||
| Right now, people are being blown up. | ||
| Dude, I saw a family when I was at Disneyland wearing El Chapo shirts. | ||
| I was like, you fucking morons. | ||
| You realize what that stands for? | ||
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What are you thinking? | |
| What the fuck are you guys thinking? | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| Well, they're not thinking. | ||
| They think it's funny. | ||
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I bought them funnel cakes. | |
| Did you? | ||
| No. | ||
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I want to fucking throw it down their faces. | |
| They're so mad. | ||
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It's ridiculous. | |
| How weird is that? | ||
| It is weird. | ||
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You're basically wearing a serial killer shirt. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You want a Bundy one? | ||
| I'll go get you a fucking Ted Bundy one if you want. | ||
| As long as you don't know anybody that got killed by the guy, there's something about those people that's very attractive. | ||
| Like to us, when we see a Tony Soprano on TV, or you see any kind of a gang kingpin type character, as long as you're not directly affected by his evil deeds, there's something that's attractive about it. | ||
| Well, look at Narcos. | ||
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Like Narcos, we're like, damn, fucking, he's kind of pretty cool, man. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You feel bad for him when he's going to die so much. | ||
| He's a good dad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird, man. | ||
| It's a weird thing that he's a murderer, but we're rooting for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Blowing up planes. | ||
| Just think about that mentality. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Do you think El Chapo is bringing in more drugs into the country than our own government? | ||
| I mean, our own government's doing it, and we're claiming war on drugs, and we're bringing in more than the cartels are. | ||
| Well, they're doing it in a legal way, Eddie. | ||
| That's why the Afghanistan thing is so bizarre. | ||
| They're not killing families and stuff. | ||
| When you find out how much they've ramped up heroin production in Afghanistan, if you don't think a few people have died for that, you're crazy. | ||
| When bombs are being dropped on a daily basis, that's El Chapo shit right there for you. | ||
| But they can hide that. | ||
| They can hide the Afghanistan heroin trade thing. | ||
| They can hide it right in front of everybody's face. | ||
| That's what's really crazy. | ||
| What's really crazy about the Afghan... | ||
| It's all like the paper, like the actual paper trail is undeniable. | ||
| There's video of, I think, I don't know who it is, maybe Geraldo or somebody out there. | ||
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Yes, Geraldo Rivera. | |
| He's standing in front of a, he's in the Middle East, he's standing in front of a poppy plantation, and there's military guys guarding it, and they say that they're guarding it because it's the weirdest excuse ever. | ||
| We're guarding, we're protecting these poppy seeds, because if we don't, then Al-Qaeda's going to come in and then use it and sell it to fund their operation, so we've got to make sure. | ||
| They don't get a hold of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Do you remember when Gerardo got fired? | ||
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He was live on CNN, and he's like, all right, we're doing a secret mission here! | |
| We're locating! | ||
| And he draws in the sand, and he's like, our mission is to go here! | ||
| And they're like, you fucking moron. | ||
| Everyone's gonna see this. | ||
| And he got fired literally, like, the next day. | ||
| Because they gave him, like, inside access, and he drew it in the sand, what their plan was. | ||
| He's a foolish man. | ||
| Hilarious, though. | ||
| Do you remember when he opened up Al Capone's vault and there wasn't shit in there? | ||
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No. | |
| You don't remember? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was a big news event. | ||
| It was live on TV. We all sat around and watched Al Capone's vault. | ||
| You don't remember that? | ||
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No. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I want to say, like, 92. And Al Capone was right in there? | ||
| 86. 86? | ||
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30 million people watching. | |
| Ah! | ||
| 30 million people watching. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| So he opened it up. | ||
| Yeah, they opened it up. | ||
| There wasn't shit in there. | ||
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There was nothing. | |
| Zero. | ||
| It was a long-running joke. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| I mean, it was like every late night guy on TV was making jokes about it. | ||
| Everyone had jokes about Al Capone's vault. | ||
| It lasted for years. | ||
| Geraldo Rivera and Al Capone's vault. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
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Powerful mustache. | |
| Yeah, he opened it up and nothing. | ||
| But he's also the guy live from Chicago. | ||
| We're going to open it. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| They got the thing. | ||
| That's his vault. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| And they opened it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, he took a chance with dramatic flair. | ||
| Big chance. | ||
| And it didn't really pay off. | ||
| But if it did... | ||
| Well, now he has to kill time and share it. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| He's got nothing in there. | ||
| But he's also the guy that had Dick Gregory, actually, on his television show, debuted the Zapruder film, which is the shot of Kennedy's head getting blown off and going back into the left. | ||
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Classic. | |
| And in what looks like a shot from the front, looks like a frontal shot, it looks like he was actually shot by more than one person. | ||
| If you look at, there's various interpretations of the Zapruder film, but one interpretation that seems to make a lot of sense is that he was hit from both the front and the back. | ||
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Two shots. | |
| There was multiple people shooting at him, and if you talked to anyone who was trying to, if you looked at that pinch point, like as they make that corner in Dealey Plaza, they were like, well, you wouldn't just have one guy with a rifle. | ||
| You would make sure you were shooting at him from a bunch of different locations. | ||
| And Gerardo dropped that news? | ||
| Gerardo showed the video. | ||
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Gerardo was a beast if you remember. | |
| Hold on a second. | ||
| Here's what's important. | ||
| That video was many years after Kennedy's assassination. | ||
| Like 10 years or so. | ||
| Yeah, like a decade. | ||
| So for a decade, we had all thought that Lee Harvey Oswald had acted alone, and there was only a few people that didn't think he did, but there was no visual evidence that showed differently. | ||
| Hey, Lee, for sure tell us, huh? | ||
| The weird thing about that Zapruder film is it always baffled me that when you see him get hit, it looks like for a couple frames, it looks like half his head disappears and there's just a purple blob. | ||
| It's a purple blob, but then when you look at the autopsy pictures, it's just the hole in his head and he's just laying there. | ||
| But it looks like the film was tampered with. | ||
| That's what it looks like. | ||
| Well, it doesn't look like the film was tampered with, but the autopsy photographs were most likely tampered with. | ||
| And this was a big part of the contention that David Lifton had when he wrote the book Best Evidence. | ||
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Watch it. | |
| Because there's two different... | ||
| Let's watch it. | ||
| You'll see that it's a purple blob for two frames. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| It's spray. | ||
| But you also don't want that. | ||
| When you hit something with a bullet, there's a spray. | ||
| It looks like his whole face just flies off and there's just purple red. | ||
| Well, they say that his piece of his head flew off and she... | ||
| Crawled on the back to try to put his head back together, which is a human being. | ||
| No, she didn't. | ||
| No, she didn't. | ||
| No, they did not say that. | ||
| That's not what happened. | ||
| She was trying to get the fuck out of that limousine because people were shooting and they blew her husband's head off. | ||
| She wasn't going for any piece of meat. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's what people say. | ||
| People do say that. | ||
| People say crazy shit like that. | ||
| She was getting the fuck off that. | ||
| Did she ever talk about it? | ||
| She never talked about it, I guess. | ||
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No, she never talked about it. | |
| She married Jackie Onassis right afterwards. | ||
| She married one of the richest people she could find. | ||
| But don't you think with that autopsy, it's your president that just got assassinated, so you don't want to make him look... | ||
| The best possible. | ||
| Well, look at the video. | ||
| The Sapruder film. | ||
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It's on YouTube. | |
| Let me explain, because this is something I've read 15 different books on this shit, and I've watched 10 or 15 documentaries. | ||
| Oh, you're balls deep in this. | ||
| Yeah, well, one of the big things is there's a giant difference between the account, the autopsy, what they said, their description of the body and the wounds in Dallas versus their description and the wounds in Bethesda, Maryland. | ||
| Two very different autopsies. | ||
| One of them that shows an entrance wound on the neck Shows he got shot from the front and an entrance wound on his neck. | ||
| On another one, that was changed to a tracheotomy scar. | ||
| So there's a discrepancy. | ||
| He grabs his neck like he got hit. | ||
| He holds his neck maybe a second or two before his brains blow out, right? | ||
| And when he's holding his neck like this, on one autopsy, on one account of the body, that's an entrance wound from a bullet. | ||
| That's the Dallas one. | ||
| But on another one, see, if you see him when he's going around the corner, he's already holding his neck. | ||
| See how he's holding his neck? | ||
| He reached up and grabbed himself and he's looking down and right around he passes the pole and his head blows off. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Right here. | ||
| Boom. | ||
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I don't see anything. | |
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
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Damn, bitch, get out the way. | |
| This isn't super slow. | ||
| So he got Sean the... | ||
| Oh! | ||
| See how his head disappears right there? | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| It's like a flap of... | ||
| It's just a flap of bone and meat. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It opened his head wide up. | ||
| So watch. | ||
| Look, she ain't going searching for a piece of head. | ||
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Hell no! | |
| She's trying to get the fuck off of that limousine. | ||
| Well, we don't know what she's doing, right? | ||
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You do! | |
| No, there's a Secret Service guy right behind her. | ||
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Hey, bro! | |
| That's the Secret Service guy who's climbed up at the back of the car and he's reaching for it to help her. | ||
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You think she... | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| God! | ||
| What a horrible thing to live through. | ||
| But the problem was, nobody had seen that until ten years after the assassination. | ||
| So when they watch it, they go, oh my God, his head goes back into the left. | ||
| That was like that Hicks joke that he kept talking about. | ||
| Back into the left, back into the left. | ||
| I mean, he got shot. | ||
| It looked like he was getting shot from the front. | ||
| And it hit the right side of his head, and his head goes back into the left. | ||
| But... | ||
| There's also some spray that appears to be either going forward, it could be an impact spray of the bullet from the front, or it could be that he got shot with two different bullets at the same time. | ||
| It's very possible that he got hit from the front and the back. | ||
| It's basically very hard to tell what happened with one angle, right? | ||
| Well, you know for sure he got shot in the head. | ||
| Yeah, you know that. | ||
| His head blew apart. | ||
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What's crazy to me is, after all these years, we don't know for a fact. | |
| No, they can't. | ||
| There's no way they can't. | ||
| What do you mean that no one came out and talked about it? | ||
| Watch this again. | ||
| It's hard to tell if this is an impact spray or if it's an exit spray. | ||
| Where's his head at? | ||
| His head is right there. | ||
| It looks like an impact spray to me, man. | ||
| But it could be. | ||
| It could be an impact spray from the front. | ||
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Meanwhile... | |
| It very well could be that it's an exit spray, too. | ||
| But the thing is, his head goes back into the left, but here's the question. | ||
| Does it go back to the left from the momentum of getting hit in the head with a bullet, or is it a spasm from a dying body, like your body locks up and it just throws itself into a convulsion? | ||
| That's possible, too. | ||
| I mean, a lot of crazy shit happens when you get shot in the fucking head. | ||
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He was a real Coxman, too. | |
| I bet he was. | ||
| But I don't think that had anything to do with this. | ||
| So you don't think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone? | ||
| I do not think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. | ||
| I do not. | ||
| I do not think that it's even reasonable to assume that he acted alone. | ||
| There's way, way too many people that have vested interest in killing him. | ||
| Like the Cubans? | ||
| Yeah, there was a lot of people. | ||
| There was a lot of people that wanted him dead. | ||
| And it depends on what varying version of the story you're willing to buy into. | ||
| But what is possible, and this is one thing that people don't want to consider, they think either Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, or it's some wacky tinfoil hat conspiracy. | ||
| I say neither. | ||
| I say it might be both. | ||
| I say Lee Harvey Oswald could have been in on it. | ||
| He seemed like a gullible guy in a lot of ways. | ||
| He'd been to Cuba, right? | ||
| He's been to Russia. | ||
| He's been to Cuba. | ||
| He lived in Russia. | ||
| He was married to a Russian woman. | ||
| Lee Harvey Oswald was most certainly at least in cahoots with the FBI. He was in the CIA. Yes. | ||
| Well, he definitely did some things for other organizations and brought over, during the Cold War, a Russian wife. | ||
| Lived over in Russia. | ||
| And then got back in the United States and brought over his Russian wife. | ||
| But he did also go to Cuba, right? | ||
| Didn't he spend time in Cuba? | ||
| I believe he did. | ||
| I believe he did. | ||
| I don't remember that, but I know for a fact he lived in Russia for a while. | ||
| Was he a communist? | ||
| He didn't go to Cuba. | ||
| He was part of a Cuban movement, like a Liberty for Cuba movement. | ||
| I think he went to Cuba. | ||
| I think he spent time in Cuba. | ||
| He might have. | ||
| Check that out, Jamie. | ||
| No, he didn't go to Cuba. | ||
| Okay, well, Jamie will find it. | ||
| But the bottom line is... | ||
| He easily could have been working for the government. | ||
| And he easily could have been a part of the plan. | ||
| And he easily could have been a guy that they felt maybe was... | ||
| A stooge? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They set him up. | ||
| Is he still alive? | ||
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No. | |
| He got shot by Jack Ruby a couple days after he shot Kennedy. | ||
| Or allegedly shot Kennedy. | ||
| Jack Ruby died of cancer in jail. | ||
| Not only that, Jack Ruby was a mob guy that was deeply beholden to all these different groups. | ||
| Which is very weird, right? | ||
| Why would Jack Ruby, a mob guy, kill Lee Harvey Oswald in broad daylight while he's being escorted? | ||
| They were like, well, he felt so bad for Jackie. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| When you look into it, the JFK story is... | ||
| It's vast. | ||
| It would take you fucking 25 hours to get the gist of the story. | ||
| Well, people have written books on it. | ||
| It's so deep. | ||
| Everybody wanted JFK dead. | ||
| The CIA wanted him dead. | ||
| Oh, embassies in Cuba and the Soviet Union. | ||
| The mob wanted him dead. | ||
| So he was in Cuba. | ||
| Big Oil wanted him dead. | ||
| Everybody wanted him dead. | ||
| He was trying to change the world. | ||
| He visited embassies in Cuba and the Soviet Union to plot his escape before assassinating John F. Kennedy. | ||
| I think he was in on it. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| For sure he was in on it. | ||
| Yeah, Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone, but I do believe he was in on it. | ||
| And I bet he didn't pull the trigger. | ||
| I bet a bunch of other people pulled the trigger, and I bet he was the guy they set up. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Have you ever been up there? | ||
| You know who E. Howard Hunt is? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| E. Howard Hunt was in the CIA. He was part of Watergate. | ||
| He's very big in the CIA. On his deathbed, he says that there was all the assassins from Operation 40. Operation 40 was a unit that they put together to assassinate Fidel Castro. | ||
| All these international killers. | ||
| It's just like the movies. | ||
| Murder Incorporated, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| All these snipers and killers, anti-Castro Cubans, you know, they were exiled. | ||
| They all got together. | ||
| They tried to kill Fidel Castro. | ||
| Bay of Pigs failed. | ||
| Because JFK... Part of the reason was because JFK didn't... | ||
| He didn't want any air support. | ||
| He didn't want any part of Bay of Pigs. | ||
| So the CIA felt like they got abandoned by JFK. JFK fires the head of the CIA. So right there, there's a big rift between the CIA and JFK. The mob... | ||
| Hated JFK, too, because they were supposed to protect the mob, Robert Kennedy and JFK, but because their dad was a mobster. | ||
| So they thought they were going to be protected, so the mob spent all this money to get JFK in, and then he's turning on them, and Robert Kennedy, his brother, he's the attorney general, he's going after the mob, so they're like, okay, we've got to stop these motherfuckers. | ||
| So when you really, really look into it, a lot of people wanted them dead. | ||
| Big Oil wanted them dead. | ||
| They killed them in Texas. | ||
| Lyndon B. Johnson, Lyndon B. Johnson, the vice president, was about to be indicted for two murders. | ||
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You know how he stopped that? | |
| JFK got assassinated he becomes president he pardons himself Was a crazy time now The world was a different place. | ||
| E. Howard Hunt on his deathbed said the Assassins for Operation 40 were all there. | ||
| They were all there to watch the big event. | ||
| They all collaborated. | ||
| He says this on his deathbed. | ||
| He was there as a bum. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| There's a photograph of him. | ||
| There's a photograph of him from the arrest. | ||
| They arrested a bunch of hobos, they said, getting off a plane. | ||
| They were all killers. | ||
| They were all assassins. | ||
| And they've identified some of the guys who were on that train. | ||
| One of them was fucking the actor. | ||
| The fuck's his name? | ||
| Woody Harrelson's dad. | ||
| Woody Harrelson's dad was an assassin. | ||
| Like legitimately an assassin. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| And so E. Howard Hunt on his deathbed. | ||
| You can watch this at the library on YouTube. | ||
| E. Howard Hunt on his deathbed. | ||
| He said he was bench warming. | ||
| Just in case something went wrong, there was a bunch of people there. | ||
| He was getting shot. | ||
| He was getting lit up from all sorts of angles. | ||
| Is it possible that the hobos were undercover cops? | ||
| No, no, the hobo... | ||
| At least one of the hobos has been identified as a known assassin. | ||
| E. Howard Hunt. | ||
| Not just E. Howard Hunt, but there's other guys that have... | ||
| Like, people have broken down the photos of the hobos, and they said that this guy is that guy, this guy's an assassin. | ||
| Like, what they... | ||
| It seems like they had done was they had planned... | ||
| To kill Kennedy and they plan to do it in Dallas for some reason and they brought in a bunch of different people to do it now Here's where it gets really squirrely when you find out how many people who are witnesses who testified that they were there at the shooting wound up dying and really fucked up ways they wound up They wound up dying by murder. | ||
| They wound up dying in weird car accidents where their fucking brake lines were cut. | ||
| There was a ton of them. | ||
| So many of them that someone, I think it might have been Lifton as well, David Lifton, the same guy who wrote Best Evidence. | ||
| They had some calculation on what the odds are of all these people meeting violent demises inside of two years. | ||
| And it was crazy. | ||
| See if you can find that. | ||
| Young Jamie. | ||
| Is that the plot from Final Destination? | ||
| No. | ||
| How many people... | ||
| See if the amount of people who witnessed the Kennedy assassination who wound up dying under mysterious circumstances. | ||
| That's some crazy shit, man. | ||
| Astronauts same thing. | ||
| Millions to one. | ||
| It's like millions to one. | ||
| Like, if you look at how many people died and what are the odds of them all getting murdered or killed in suicide. | ||
| Weird suicides. | ||
| You know, like, hang themselves on a fucking coat rack. | ||
| Like, weird shit. | ||
| Yeah, the JFK story is deep as fuck. | ||
| They killed that guy. | ||
| Everybody collaborated. | ||
| They all agreed, we need to get rid of this guy. | ||
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See, I'm surprised more guys, as they get older than on their deathbed, don't tell the truth. | |
| Nobody cares. | ||
| Howard Hunt! | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| There's also plenty of fake stories. | ||
| All they have to do... | ||
| Here we go here. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| 100,000 trillion to one. | ||
| Some have claimed that a large number of witnesses in the event have died in mysterious circumstances. | ||
| Sunday Times reported that the odds against these witnesses being dead by February 1967 were 100,000 trillion to one. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| careless journalistic mistake in his book crossfire author Jim Mars provides a list of 103 people he claims died of mysterious circumstances between 63 and 76 in reality most of these people died of natural causes some of these people did die in accidents others were murdered or committed suicide however these people rarely had information that would have been important in helping That sounds like an editorialization. | ||
| I want to know who's right. | ||
| But I mean, think about it. | ||
| If you're going to pull off an assassination and then you're all going to go as a group, let's kill everybody around there. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| That's hard to do. | ||
| That doesn't matter. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| I don't have faith in that. | ||
| But you're not looking at that right. | ||
| What I'm saying is what that guy wrote is an editorialization. | ||
| Like that might be correct, but it might be wrong too. | ||
| He's making an assumption and he's writing this guess based on that assumption. | ||
| Well, I mean, I don't know how you'd... | ||
| Like, okay, so you got all those witnesses. | ||
| That's a fucking... | ||
| That's really hard. | ||
| Now you got to organize all those murders? | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| All these different people that were witnesses. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Make that a little larger, Jamie, so I can read this shit. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| They all died pretty spaced out. | ||
| They had a lot of time to talk. | ||
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These are all Kennedys. | |
| Oh, these are all Kennedys that were whacked? | ||
| Yeah, well, everybody hates the Kennedys, man. | ||
| They started out as drug runners. | ||
| They were running moonshine. | ||
| That's how they started. | ||
| That's where they made their money. | ||
| Joe Kennedy. | ||
| This is deep. | ||
| And then JFK and the rest of his sons, they started trying to change the world for real, and they're like, uh-uh, that ain't happening. | ||
| Everybody wanted JFK dead. | ||
| They knew, they joked around about how they knew what they were trying to do was, you know, put their lives in jeopardy. | ||
| You know what's really interesting? | ||
| Even his son. | ||
| Look at his son, the way his son died on that plane. | ||
| You look into that. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| No, that guy was coked up, man. | ||
| He's coked up, but he didn't know what he was doing. | ||
| He was driving into the fog. | ||
| You have to be really good. | ||
| You gotta look into it. | ||
| I did. | ||
| Did you really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What do you think, Eddie? | ||
| He died with cocaine in his system and he didn't know how to drive the plane. | ||
| Not a shady shit. | ||
| Not a shady shit. | ||
| Did they find his body? | ||
| Yes, they found the plane, they found his body. | ||
| When people crash, over a hundred murders, suicides, and mysterious deaths, the strange fate of those who saw Kennedy's shot. | ||
| For sure lie if you saw it. | ||
| See, I'd have to read all these different... | ||
| That's pretty organized. | ||
| He's killed by a karate child. | ||
| Oswald was coming out saying, I'm a patsy, I'm a patsy, I'm being set up. | ||
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Bah, bah, bah! | |
| Yeah, and then Jack Ruby shoots him on TV. Jim Coff was killed by a karate chop to the throat as he emerged from the shower. | ||
| The Jack Ruby killing, that's what raises my mind where I go, why would Jack Ruby kill... | ||
| There's so much to JFK. Why would he assassinate him and then just keep his mouth shut and go to jail? | ||
| What the fuck is that about? | ||
| That's the part that I think is really... | ||
| I know you're a super expert on JFK, you know, more than I do, but I spent a lot of time on JFK as well. | ||
| I just you just you know, I just let you talk but I know a lot about that and there's so much There's people there's people that know way more than me. | ||
| There's only read a few people's books The guy that blows me away that the most about JFK who knows he studies all the players all the mob guys involved is a guy named Rye Dawson. | ||
| He's a fucking JFK encyclopedia. | ||
| He knows. | ||
| It's so deep. | ||
| It's like Game of Thrones times 10. It's hard to tell who's right. | ||
| It isn't just JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and maybe a couple other assassins. | ||
| It's so goddamn deep. | ||
| You could spend a lifetime just studying all the names and how they're all connected. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's super vast. | ||
| Well, it's unquestionably a mystery. | ||
| And the idea that it's not is pretty ridiculous to me. | ||
| Look at that triangle. | ||
| Oh, she slipped out. | ||
| Slippery. | ||
| Nice grease. | ||
| It wouldn't happen if she had a nice karate gi on her. | ||
| Yeah, look at this. | ||
| She's fighting off her back here. | ||
| Hey, Eddie, I heard you said I was far left. | ||
| Just so you know, I'm so not far left. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were. | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| I thought you were all Hillary'd out. | ||
| No, I don't believe in big government or anything. | ||
| I believe in small government. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I thought you were far left. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, I'm more libertarian. | ||
| I believe in just maximum personal freedom. | ||
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Really? | |
| Small government, yeah. | ||
| Total transparency, all that stuff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just so you know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, I know, because you thought because of the Hillary thing now. | ||
| That was just more my anti-Trump thing. | ||
| I don't like Hillary at all. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| I don't like either one of them. | ||
| Just so you know. | ||
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All right. | |
| By the way, I don't care. | ||
| I just heard somebody say that. | ||
| Why do people have an obsession with kung fu being real? | ||
| Why do they still make these movies where people do stupid... | ||
| We know now what works, and it seems like for a long time, those stupid kung fu movies, they died off when the UFC became really popular. | ||
| But the appeal of people who could just magically make people fly from a touch to the chest and shit like that, it's so romantic to us that we bring it back. | ||
| It was kind of before we could prove that stuff, remember? | ||
| I remember, first of all, it was Asian, right? | ||
| So there was a mystery to being from China. | ||
| There was a mystery to being from Japan. | ||
| The languages were so different from English. | ||
| So for us, this idea that they had these secrets, these touching things and pressure points, and he was so wise, and he was so quiet and so humble. | ||
| We wanted that person to know something. | ||
| We all, as human beings, This is what all this stuff is about. | ||
| We all want to be part of a secret group. | ||
| We want to be in the know, all of us. | ||
| So when somebody is a master of kung fu and breaks boards... | ||
| Can you imagine if there's a death touch tournament? | ||
| Those Bruce Lee movies were incredible. | ||
| Those Bruce movies were incredible. | ||
| Think about Enter the Dragon. | ||
| That changed people's entire lives as in they went, I'm only going to learn karate and I'm going in that direction. | ||
| I'm going to open a school. | ||
| My whole life is going to be that. | ||
| And you're gonna walk around with that kung fu- Oh! | ||
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Oh! | |
| She just head kicked her! | ||
| Bench Gohea is on Queer Street right now! | ||
| She is hurt! | ||
| Uh-oh! | ||
| Uh-oh! | ||
| She ate- Oh! | ||
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Uh-oh! | |
| Uh-oh! | ||
| That head kick! | ||
| Yeah, that was- Knees! | ||
| And Renan knows she has it, too. | ||
| She slipped, too. | ||
| Oh, that was- Boy, she got wobbled. | ||
| Damn powerful shoot for that single. | ||
| Can guys wear skirts too? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We can cut the sides. | ||
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Cowboys used to do that. | |
| Like Spartan style? | ||
| Well, you probably should. | ||
| I'm gonna start doing it. | ||
| Michael McDonald style? | ||
| Loose kicking. | ||
| Melvin Manhoof. | ||
| Remember when he used to wear those gladiator ones? | ||
| Those are the shit. | ||
| God, he kicks so hard. | ||
| He does everything hard. | ||
| Manhoof is so scary. | ||
| There's videos of Manhoof hitting the pads that make you want to never hit the pads again. | ||
| Well, how about there's a video of him playing, like, just pinata with Robbie Lawler's legs. | ||
| That's the craziest thing. | ||
| When he was kicking Robbie Lawler's legs, I was like, oh my god. | ||
| Robbie won that fight with one punch. | ||
| Robbie went, and hit him back. | ||
| With one punch. | ||
| Is Manoff still with Bellator? | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think so. | ||
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I think he's still doing the damn thing. | |
| I think he's kickboxing too. | ||
| I think he varies. | ||
| He goes back and forth. | ||
| So explosive. | ||
| Bellator, you know, has the big kickboxing organization too. | ||
| So, you know, Gaston Bolaños is going back and forth. | ||
| He did his MMA debut with Bellator, and then he's going to do a kickboxing fight with Bellator in April. | ||
| Path of destruction right there. | ||
| Oh, the mount! | ||
| Would you say that kickboxing has more head trauma than boxing? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It does, huh? | ||
| Yeah, I would think so. | ||
| I mean, the thing is, if the kicks land. | ||
| There are only three rounds though, right? | ||
| Well, it depends. | ||
| Some of them are five. | ||
| Championship rounds. | ||
| But the thing about, like, it depends if you're Muay Thai or kickboxing. | ||
| Because in Muay Thai, you're definitely getting hit in the head a lot with elbows. | ||
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I'd say boxing though, Joe. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| I think it's not as true. | ||
| Look at Bet! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Bet Correa is fighting with everything she's got. | ||
| I would like to see numbers. | ||
| I would like to see actual impact numbers. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| That was not good. | ||
| The thing is, the potential for getting neck kicked or head kicked is so high. | ||
| This ref is... | ||
| But then it's kind of over if you get head kicked. | ||
| Don't go on taking punishment. | ||
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That's true. | |
| That's a good point. | ||
| But then the question is like, what kind of head trauma are we talking about? | ||
| Are we talking about one big bomb? | ||
| What's worse? | ||
| One big bomb or eating like 50 Triple G jabs? | ||
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Eating 50 Triple G jabs. | |
| That's what people die from usually. | ||
| I like this ref a lot. | ||
| You think that's better than like... | ||
| She's letting it go, right? | ||
| Yeah, let it go. | ||
| Gonzaga-Crocop head kicks. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Dude. | ||
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100%. | |
| Dude, she's right. | ||
| Betts Correa is very tough. | ||
| Gotta respect her heart here. | ||
| Do you remember when nobody thought that you'd ever see women fight like this? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Like, women fights were never really big in boxing. | ||
| I mean, they kind of... | ||
| They're still not. | ||
| They're still not. | ||
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You got the gold medal winner. | |
| She's awesome to watch. | ||
| But you had a few that were, like, interesting, like Christy Martin, and then there was, um... | ||
| Leila Ali. | ||
| Lucia Riker. | ||
| Lucia Riker was probably one of the best female boxers. | ||
| Probably the best one ever. | ||
| And then Leila Ali, because she was Muhammad Ali's daughter, she got a lot of press. | ||
| Riker can hit like she was... | ||
| And then there was that other girl too. | ||
| Mia St. John. | ||
| Remember her? | ||
| What about Christy? | ||
| What was her name? | ||
| Christy Martin. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this back attack. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| There's just not enough depth, so it never grows. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| One girl who dominates, but then they just go away. | ||
| Oh, and of course, how did I forget Ann Wolfe? | ||
| Ann Wolfe was probably the scariest knockout artist in women's boxing. | ||
| Oh, she's phenomenal. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| And she's a sick coach, too. | ||
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Amazing coach. | |
| But you know what, man? | ||
| It's just we never saw this many matchups. | ||
| And you never saw this many matchups. | ||
| The thing about boxing is you're only really going to see maybe two fights, maybe three. | ||
| If you're really going to watch a pay-per-view card, do you sit through the whole card? | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Because if I watch a UFC and there's five fights in the main event, like in the main card, you're going to probably watch every fight and be pumped about it. | ||
| That's why UFC, in a short amount of time, has grown so much because there's five entertaining fights you actually know the people and you care about. | ||
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With boxing, like on the undercard of a Floyd Mayweather fight, it's usually shit. | |
| Why is it like that? | ||
| Why not stack it with some good times, man? | ||
| Well, the UFC, they saw the holes in boxing's promotion game and they capitalized on it. | ||
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This is the other thing why I think women MMA fighting is bigger than boxing. | |
| Look at this shit. | ||
| Bechcohea is bridging on her chin. | ||
| Bridging on her chin. | ||
| But how much pressure are you allowed to apply? | ||
| Because you can't strike with your head, right? | ||
| Not much. | ||
| You can put all the pressure you want. | ||
| But you can't backwards headbutt, Eddie, can you? | ||
| No, you can't headbutt. | ||
| Eddie, what do you do here? | ||
| Isn't that weird, though? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You can headkick somebody, but you can't backwards headbutt them? | ||
| Why can't you backwards headbutt him? | ||
| I feel like you should be able to backwards headbutt. | ||
| I feel like you should be able to. | ||
| You can't headbutt him any faster. | ||
| Hey, you know what? | ||
| We start that league on that tennis court. | ||
| Make that happen. | ||
| Don't you feel like you should be able to backwards headbutt? | ||
| Didn't we move it to a tennis court? | ||
| Yeah, tennis court size. | ||
| We agreed on that. | ||
| We felt like there's something that accentuates the view. | ||
| Is a tennis court bigger than a basketball court? | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| Basketball court's bigger? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Tennis court is, I believe, 100 feet, right? | ||
| How long is it? | ||
| What's bigger, Jamie? | ||
| I think basketball is longer. | ||
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Tennis is wider. | |
| Jamie, do people ask you questions in real life and ask you to pull that shit up? | ||
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I've been doing this my whole life. | |
| Tennis courts are 78 feet. | ||
| Basketball court's 94. Stick to the basketball court. | ||
| Basketball's good. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Do you think that you should be able, if you're able to elbow someone in the face, why can't you backwards headbutt? | ||
| Is someone going to die because you backwards headbutted somebody? | ||
| Break that nose. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's a real technique. | ||
| I feel like that's a real technique. | ||
| Do you think headbutt should be a lot? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Headbutt. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| One nose to the back of the head? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I feel like if you don't disqualify someone for a neck kick, if you're neck kicking someone and you're getting them back here, if a guy's standing like this and you're coming over the top with a right kick, you are hitting him in the back of the fucking head. | ||
| What do you think, Brennan? | ||
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I'm cool with headbutts. | |
| I'm cool with headbutts. | ||
| I'm not cool with if you have someone's elbow in the back of their head. | ||
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Just because there's not a ton of protection back there. | |
| I feel like it's all fucking dangerous. | ||
| Yeah, but the back of the head, you can go blind. | ||
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What about eye gouging? | |
| That's a very, very vulnerable part. | ||
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You're cool with eye gouging? | |
| No. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Because it's permanent damage to the eyeballs. | ||
| So is that? | ||
| Not my brain, bro. | ||
| I don't know how there are basketball arenas on Indian reservations. | ||
| That's what we need to find out. | ||
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We're going to have to take this to Pechanga. | |
| Pechanga's got a lot of damage. | ||
| I think I'm not giving this to Bech Correa. | ||
| We barely watched this fight. | ||
| We barely watched this fight. | ||
| You've got to remember, they're in majority draw. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| What? | ||
| Well, Marion is more excited. | ||
| She's happy. | ||
| I bet you Gohea is not. | ||
| A little booty tap there. | ||
| See that? | ||
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Oh, there goes the dance. | |
| What is it? | ||
| She got beat up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That eye is tough. | ||
| She's thick. | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| Boom. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Yeah, so if we did it, we'd have to do it on an Indian reservation. | ||
| Pachanga. | ||
| What is the other one? | ||
| The one right there? | ||
| Mohegan Sun? | ||
| Yeah, Mohegan Sun. | ||
| They do a ton of fights on Mohegan Sun. | ||
| Bellator does a bunch of fights on Indian reservations. | ||
| You don't have to test for that. | ||
| We need a basketball arena, though, on an Indian reservation. | ||
| Let's not get greedy. | ||
| The whole point is it's got to be on a basketball. | ||
| If you build it, they will come. | ||
| Let's just build one ourselves. | ||
| It's called the Fight Companion Arena. | ||
| Well, if you just have it in a basketball-sized flat area at the bottom of their arena, they must have an arena if they're having these events. | ||
| Now you're talking about WCL, the Chuck Norris shirt. | ||
| Like, look at this. | ||
| You had one in there. | ||
| You would just have that center area where you have that octagon, spread it out by at least another seven feet on each side, and then mat it down. | ||
| Yeah, mat it down. | ||
| That's what that place was, because this is an Olympic training center where they had a lot of Olympic stuff, like wrestling and stuff like that. | ||
| So you could do that there. | ||
| The only real issue would be people storming the flat area where the people are competing. | ||
| Well, you gotta act like a goddamn human. | ||
| Like they do when I do stand-up. | ||
| I wonder what you would be able to do to stop that, though. | ||
| Because the thing is, if somebody wanted to charge the octagon, there's a lot of steps. | ||
| Good luck charging that hockey guy. | ||
| Security. | ||
| I mean, security might work, but if there's actually a mob... | ||
| Like the way they do basketball games. | ||
| If they just wanted to file out onto the court... | ||
| But it never happens in basketball. | ||
| It happened once. | ||
| Because these are fighters. | ||
| They're savages. | ||
| Well, the crowd's not going to be savages. | ||
| We're going to have some nice young men in the crowd. | ||
| Do you remember when Ensign Inouye fought Frank Shamrock? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Frank Shamrock, does he fight Ensign or Egan? | ||
| Who did he fight? | ||
| I believe it was Ensign. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He was beating him and they stopped the fight and Egan jumped into the ring and started attacking Frank Shamrock. | ||
| Frank stopped Ensign with a bunch of knees to the face and then Egan jumped Frank. | ||
| Now if that was a flat area and not like a ring, it could be chaos. | ||
| You're talking about Royal Rumble. | ||
| And then we've got to charge more. | ||
| With basketball games, a lot of times at the end, people run on the court. | ||
| College, never NBA. NBA, you can't get on the court. | ||
| You cannot. | ||
| I don't think that's going to be a problem, Joe. | ||
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Me neither. | |
| I think that... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We've got bigger fish to fry ahead. | ||
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We've got bigger fish to fry. | |
| What's the bigger fish? | ||
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Get this thing sanctioned. | |
| Buying a stadium. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| We go to an Indian reservation. | ||
| You could make your own rules at an Indian reservation. | ||
| Right? | ||
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Right? | |
| Unless they changed that. | ||
| Maybe they changed it. | ||
| No, we can. | ||
| No, they can do whatever the fuck they want. | ||
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We're going to have to pay them a nice royalty, though. | |
| They have crazy rules. | ||
| Like, here's the thing that drives some people nuts. | ||
| They can hunt whatever they want whenever they want to hunt it, and they can do whatever method they want. | ||
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Yeah, they're Indians. | |
| In Canada, they use spotlights to hunt moose. | ||
| They shine them at night on the moose. | ||
| The moose don't know what the fuck's going on. | ||
| Boom, they blast them from the back of ATVs. | ||
| They do all this different shit that you're not allowed to do if you're a regular person. | ||
| If you're a white dude, you're saying? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But if you're a native, I mean, it doesn't matter if you're white. | ||
| If you're a black guy, you're not allowed to do it. | ||
| I'm saying if you're not one of the first natives. | ||
| It makes sense, though. | ||
| Yeah, first nation. | ||
| It's their land, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, sort of. | ||
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Whoa, bro. | |
| Here's the thing. | ||
| How far are we going back? | ||
| Because it wasn't their land when it was covered in two miles of ice. | ||
| That was just 10,000 years ago. | ||
| That was no one's land. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So who's to say? | ||
| First human land. | ||
| Well, who knows how it was set out? | ||
| Who knows who conquered who to establish their domain in that land? | ||
| Weren't the Spanish here before anybody who is, you know... | ||
| Not before the Native Americans. | ||
| No, not before the Native Americans, but the Native Americans were here from fucking Siberia. | ||
| What about the Aztecs? | ||
| That's all been established too. | ||
| Don't forget about the Aztecs. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But they all wandered here. | ||
| So really no one owns it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The reality is we are feeling terrible as people that inherited this beautiful place called Los Angeles from some barbarians that at one point in time took it from some other people that were here first. | ||
| We should feel bad for them. | ||
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The dinosaurs. | |
| It doesn't have anything to do with the people that are there right now. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| The people that are in those reservations right now, they didn't get anything stolen from them. | ||
| They were born in 1968. You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like the whole thing is squirrely that you're allowing them to have casinos, they can have cage fights, they can have rooster fights with fucking nuclear weapons attached to their beaks. | ||
| Aren't Indians allowed to cross the border with just like flashing an ID that don't get checked or anything like that? | ||
| I'd wonder. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| In New Mexico? | ||
| Into Canada, in the United States, and into Mexico, back and forth. | ||
| It's really odd that they're allowed to just have casinos, and they also make partnerships with people who aren't Native. | ||
| You know, and then those guys profit off these casinos, too. | ||
| They also get a stipend from the government, right? | ||
| A shitload of money. | ||
| I did an appearance at an Indian reservation. | ||
| They were balling. | ||
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It was the Beverly Hills of Indians. | |
| They just all tattooed from the fucking ankles up, full body tattooed. | ||
| Isn't it crazy, too, that you still call them Indians? | ||
| Like, that was a mistake. | ||
| Like, they were supposed to be, they thought they were in India. | ||
| These dumb motherfuckers. | ||
| I missed that part of the history. | ||
| I mean, this is not India. | ||
| What should we call them then? | ||
| Native Americans. | ||
| But they're not even Native Americans. | ||
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They're not Native Americans. | |
| Or Sue, or Navajo. | ||
| Traveling. | ||
| Ah, well, if we're getting detailed, I couldn't tell you. | ||
| Comanche, Apache. | ||
| Look, there were some amazing, amazing people, and they did some incredible shit. | ||
| There were some savages. | ||
| What does this say? | ||
| Once you have proven that you are at least 50% Aboriginal blood, if you were born in Canada, if you have at least 50% Aboriginal blood, you may be entitled to certain rights. | ||
| Eddie's right. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You do not have to register for the military. | ||
| You do not have to obtain a work permit. | ||
| You do not have to be processed for an alien registration card, also known as green card. | ||
| The U.S. government cannot deport you. | ||
| They cannot exclude you from entry, and they cannot deny you services. | ||
| Man, they run shit. | ||
| Dope. | ||
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Does anyone have an Indian in them? | |
| You have some Indian. | ||
| 50% Mohawk. | ||
| T-Mobile Arena reserves June 10 for Mayweather-McGregor. | ||
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Yes! | |
| Good googly moogly. | ||
| It's fucking happening. | ||
| How is that gonna happen? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| You think the UFC and Mayweather come to an agreement? | ||
| Yes, that's what's happening. | ||
| Because T-Mobile in Vegas... | ||
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It's in cahoots with the UFC. I guarantee UFC's involved. | |
| But the report, who knows who made that report? | ||
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Pretty legit, I bet. | |
| You might have did it on the way over here. | ||
| I may have. | ||
| I might have. | ||
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I think it's going to happen, man. | |
| Wow, you really think so? | ||
| I really do. | ||
| And you're asking me to commentate it. | ||
| So, let's just figure this out now. | ||
| You want to talk June 10th? | ||
| What are you doing June 10th? | ||
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Probably a companion with me. | |
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know what I'm doing. | ||
| Well, if you're not commentating, we need to do a giant companion for it and fucking celebrate the shit out of it. | ||
| I would prefer that, honestly. | ||
| June 10th. | ||
| June 10th is... | ||
| It's about to get real. | ||
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Not if my man Mayweather throws you that TMT money. | |
| Hmm. | ||
| I don't think they really care about me commentating. | ||
| They'd probably want Max Kellerman or the boxing people to do it. | ||
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Bro, Max Kellerman and you? | |
| It would be fun. | ||
| I would love to do it with him. | ||
| But it's a boxing match. | ||
| That's their world. | ||
| If it was an MMA match, and he was sitting down next to me doing commentary, I think that would be a little odd, too. | ||
| Not if Floyd was just doing boxing in the octagon. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| He could be in an octagon. | ||
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Well, no. | |
| I'm saying if the roles were reversed. | ||
| I think you could talk about movement and Conor's history, because they're not going to know shit. | ||
| Let's be real. | ||
| They're going to be like Shane Sharp talking about UFC. It's tough to listen to. | ||
| It's going to be good to have someone who's knowledgeable, break down Conor's history, how he came here, how he got his movement, what he's known for. | ||
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I think that's super important. | |
| You have to have a guy with UFC knowledge. | ||
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For people who don't watch UFC. Yeah, because you're getting a shitload of new boxing. | |
| You know what fans tune in. | ||
| Hanging out with you guys, smoking weed, watching it right here. | ||
| That sounds so much better. | ||
| I just want my dear friend Joe Rogan part of the biggest fight of combat in history. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| I'd like to sit right here. | ||
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You're crazy. | |
| You don't think that's the biggest fight in history. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| You think it's the biggest fight in history? | ||
| Bigger than Ali, Frazier? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Number-wise, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's the biggest fight ever. | ||
| Biggest pay-per-view ever. | ||
| Because it brings in two worlds. | ||
| It brings in the UFC world and this one guy who's unquestionably the biggest star in the UFC. Unquestionably. | ||
| By a long shot. | ||
| And then you bring in a guy who has been one of the biggest money makers in the history of boxing. | ||
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Changed the game. | |
| The only guy to go 49-0 other than Rocky Marciano. | ||
| I mean, he's like right there and we'd love to break Rocky Marciano's record. | ||
| And then, you know what, man? | ||
| When people want to do things like break someone's record, and you want to do it so bad that you take on a guy who's never had a boxing match before, and then that guy starches you... | ||
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It'll be so sick. | |
| It'll be so sick. | ||
| I mean, it's not likely... | ||
| If he does that, I'm going to build a shrine to him and pray to it every day. | ||
| There's something about that dude, man. | ||
| I'm telling you, there's something about that dude. | ||
| He's got something going on. | ||
| Magic. | ||
| He's got a little something extra special, but he would need... | ||
| He would need everything to line up. | ||
| It would have to be the... | ||
| McGregor... | ||
| Mayweather would have to dismiss him as a threat. | ||
| He'd have to not train hard enough. | ||
| He'd have to not seriously consider the possibility that Conor connects on him and knocks him out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then Conor would have to do some roughhousing. | ||
| He'd have to hold him in the clinch. | ||
| He'd have to hold him and hit him. | ||
| He'd have to try to get off as many shots and bully him around and wear him out. | ||
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It's a possibility. | |
| It's a possibility. | ||
| He's a much bigger man. | ||
| Quick, too, for our big ears. | ||
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Very, very quick. | |
| But if you compare the two of them frame-wise, if they ever do do it, and they're standing right at each other, looking down at each other, doing eye-to-eye, you're going to go, oh, shit. | ||
| Yeah, Conor's way bigger. | ||
| Because you remember when Eddie Alvarez was going eye-to-eye with Conor and you realize how big Conor's head is? | ||
| You're like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Just overall, just a bigger dude. | ||
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From shoulders, his legs. | |
| He's a big fuck. | ||
| I mean, he can make that 145-pound cut when he's on death's door, but Mayweather makes it easy. | ||
| What are they going to fight at? | ||
| 45? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| No. | ||
| Mayweather was fighting at 154 his last few fights. | ||
| Yeah, 54. Wow. | ||
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So I bet they do it at like 55, 60 maybe. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| Depends on what Mayweather's comfortable with. | ||
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But I think in Dana White, you want to be part of that fight if you're Dana White. | |
| You want to be in cahoots with all these guys, with Mayweather, Floyd, you know, and Conor. | ||
| Or you don't want the fight to take place at all. | ||
| And look, he got fucked because Nurmagomedov got sick making that weight. | ||
| If Nurmagomedov didn't get sick making that weight, then Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson, Dana White did. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| I thought you said Conor did. | ||
| No, the UFC did. | ||
| Because look... | ||
| The real fight is the winner of Tony Ferguson and Habib Nurmagomedov. | ||
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In the UFC. Right. | |
| So that's the real fight as being a big challenge for Conor and that could be a million plus pay-per-view buys. | ||
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As a purist. | |
| Especially if you either have that fight or the better fight financially is another fight with Nate Diaz. | ||
| No, the better fight financially is Mayweather. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for boxing. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| No, I'm saying for Conor. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no, for sure, for sure. | ||
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For Conor as a business, that's by far the best fight to go. | |
| 100% agree with you. | ||
| What do you think he's going to make? | ||
| 20 million? | ||
| Way more than that. | ||
| Oh, excuse me, sir? | ||
| 100 million. | ||
| Probably 100. 100 million each. | ||
| And Floyd, too? | ||
| Ray Borg looks good as fuck, man. | ||
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Yeah, he does. | |
| He's so fast. | ||
| Will they, Khabib and Tony are going to fight again, though, right? | ||
| Aren't they? | ||
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Hopefully. | |
| Tony wants to do it in a catchweight. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| But here's the thing, man. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Khabib might not be able to make that weight. | ||
| And, you know, since Kelvin missed weight a couple times and Dana forced him to fight at 185, I mean, it makes sense that Dana goes, dude, you gotta do 170 at least once or twice. | ||
| But Tony will go up in weight to fight him. | ||
| Well, he only missed weight once, right? | ||
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Twice. | |
| Twice. | ||
| And isn't Tony a huge 55? | ||
| He's tall, but he's not bulky. | ||
| How tall is he? | ||
| Tony's like 5'10", 5'11". | ||
| Tony's built perfect for the division. | ||
| Yes, Tony's perfect at 55. He's got a lot of muscle, even though he's long. | ||
| He's very strong. | ||
| He's excellent in the clinch. | ||
| I was looking forward to that fight so much, man. | ||
| Broke my heart. | ||
| Broke my heart. | ||
| How big is Khabib? | ||
| Khabib got a huge frame? | ||
| He's a tank. | ||
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No, he doesn't have a nutritionist. | |
| He's not that tall. | ||
| He's not being professional about it. | ||
| He's thick as fuck. | ||
| Did you hear what Tony told him? | ||
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To get down to 155. When they're doing media. | |
| And Khabib was saying something like, why'd he get your sunglasses on? | ||
| He's like trying to say something about his shoes. | ||
| He's like, good luck with that weight cut. | ||
| I hear him breathing. | ||
| He goes, your cardio sucks! | ||
| He goes, your cardio sucks! | ||
| That's what Tony said to him? | ||
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Dude, they have to make it at 55, because what do you do with that fucking interim title? | |
| What do you do? | ||
| Because if Conor does fight Floyd, we can't just fucking But don't you think that that's the fight that has to be made in that division, right? | ||
| But if he can't make 155... | ||
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He can. | |
| He needs to get real and get a fucking dietitian. | ||
| I don't know what happened to him. | ||
| Well, you don't eat tiramisu the week of. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| He did. | ||
| On Embedded, Tony even tweeted out, like, for sure don't fucking eat tiramisu. | ||
| He really ate tiramisu? | ||
| It was on an Embedded video. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Tony smelled it. | ||
| He was like, have fun making weight. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I hear you huffing and puffing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But you have to make that fight, and Khabib can do it. | ||
| He's made it before without killing himself. | ||
| Yeah, but we don't know what happened when he had to go to the fucking hospital. | ||
| They said he was in massive pain. | ||
| We also know he didn't go through Dr. Davidson. | ||
| Luke Rockhold, you're right. | ||
| But Luke Rockhold said something. | ||
| There was some quote that I had read. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| See what they said about... | ||
| What did... | ||
| Habib's corner list as the official issue that was happening to him. | ||
| He was six pounds overweight, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| When he went to the hospital. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| That's so heavy. | ||
| You're so heavy when your body's shutting down. | ||
| Like, you're six pounds away and your body's shutting down. | ||
| But you know that coming in the week of the fight. | ||
| Yeah, but obviously he fucked up with his discipline if he's eating tiramisu. | ||
| If that's true, that's even more disappointing. | ||
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Maybe he just had a bite, but either way... | |
| You don't have a, and I'm not saying it's the answer, you don't have a Mike Dolce or one of these guys who are helping you with your diet, right? | ||
| But either way, Tony's down to go up in weight to fight him. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| It makes sense for Tony, meaning he wants to fight this guy, but for the division, it's so weird. | ||
| It's like, well, what is this guy? | ||
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It fucks the division. | |
| What is this guy? | ||
| The fight's bigger than what the division looks like. | ||
| That fight needs to happen. | ||
| I agree. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| I agree. | ||
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Yeah, I agree with that. | |
| I want to see that fight. | ||
| And there's all this other shit going on, Mayweather and Connor, all this other shit. | ||
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GSP, Bisping, Random. | |
| Here goes medical, it says weight management medical issues. | ||
| He was treated and has been discharged. | ||
| That doesn't say what the issue is. | ||
| This is the official U.S. See if you could find out. | ||
| I feel like I read an article that was interviewing Luke Rockhold. | ||
| Rockhold was talking about what happened to Huffy. | ||
| It's on library.gov. | ||
| Did you see Dana, though? | ||
| He goes, if you would have, we maybe could have saved it. | ||
| Oh, he's drinking. | ||
| Who gave him a beer? | ||
| This isn't beer. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| It's a root beer. | ||
| We almost fucked up. | ||
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Root free. | |
| Someone gave the gremlin water after midnight. | ||
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No, but Dana was saying... | |
| I panicked. | ||
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Is it a beer? | |
| One beer. | ||
| Oh, it is a beer. | ||
| I'm having one now. | ||
| It's one beer. | ||
| Danny's doing it, and I'm doing it. | ||
| It's one beer. | ||
| It's Brian. | ||
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Damn it. | |
| Why do you got a coffee? | ||
| I got a coffee, bro. | ||
| You can't leave a guy drinking by himself. | ||
| And that was the moment the wheels fell off the podcast. | ||
| Okay, here it is. | ||
| This is what I read. | ||
| Habib wasn't getting any blood to his liver. | ||
| This is what Luke Rockhold says. | ||
| Look, that is fucking real bad. | ||
| So scroll down and let's see what Luke Rockhold has to say. | ||
| It says the weight cut wasn't going very well. | ||
| Khabib was complaining about a pain in his side. | ||
| We had to cut short the weight cut and sure enough it gets worse overnight and he had to go to the hospital. | ||
| Unfortunately, this is the fight I was really looking for, ba ba ba. | ||
| From what I understand he wasn't getting any blood to his liver and something went wrong with his weight cut. | ||
| It's very similar to his last fight, what I understand, and just something went wrong. | ||
| You never know with these weight cuts I guess, but I think he's ready to go and we can rebook this thing. | ||
| He wants to get any blood to his liver? | ||
| No, he's the training partner. | ||
| He's the 100-pound heavier training partner. | ||
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They're from the same gym, yes. | |
| I mean, it obviously ain't 100 pounds. | ||
| When that fight happens... | ||
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No, you know what I'm saying. | |
| He's a big dude. | ||
| What does he walk around at? | ||
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Khabib? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't want to misspeak. | ||
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I'd assume high 70s. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Looks like it, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he ain't fat. | ||
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No. | |
| They gotta make that fight, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's the fight. | ||
| I'd say that's the maddest I've ever been when a fight fell through. | ||
| Like when John and Chael thing, I really wasn't that mad. | ||
| There's been other fights. | ||
| John, DC, I wasn't that upset. | ||
| This one, I was pissed, man. | ||
| I was really upset. | ||
| Tony was on fire. | ||
| His camp, everything was perfect. | ||
| He was on fire. | ||
| Such a good fight! | ||
| Now, tell me if you're allowed to speak about this. | ||
| I don't know if you are, but there's been a lot of complaints about... | ||
| His pay. | ||
| What exactly did happen, if you could clarify, since you were training him? | ||
| I don't know the specifics. | ||
| Because I heard he was very upset. | ||
| What I've been reading was that he was very upset that he didn't even get his show money. | ||
| It's like this. | ||
| If you were getting $10,000 to show, $10,000 to win, and you made weight and your opponent doesn't make weight... | ||
| Just give them the show money. | ||
| It's 10k. | ||
| But when it's like big money and your opponent can't make weight, then we're not going to give you all that money. | ||
| I feel like it should be insured. | ||
| I feel like it should be insured, and that's why it's confusing to me. | ||
| It's frustrating for Tony. | ||
| I don't know exactly what went down. | ||
| I know there was that issue. | ||
| Will he still get that show money? | ||
| I don't know if he got it or he got half or something like that. | ||
| I don't really get into it with... | ||
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Tony's right, though, on that. | |
| Because he did all the necessary steps. | ||
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He went through training camp. | |
| It's not his fault Khabib didn't fucking make weight. | ||
| And then if he suffers from it, you can't have that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If a fighter doesn't make weight, the other fighter should be insured. | ||
| Maybe it was a deal like this or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But maybe it was a deal. | ||
| I feel like we need to do something. | ||
| We'll give you $250 to show. | ||
| Whatever to win or something like that. | ||
| Something big. | ||
| But we're offering that if the fight happens. | ||
| If for some reason your opponent in small print doesn't make the fight, you're not going to get that show money. | ||
| It's like if the fight happens. | ||
| I feel like they have to do something. | ||
| Maybe the UFC would be smart on their end to structure something like that, right? | ||
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They need a guaranteed person you can see better fights. | |
| I feel like you need to make a person who does not make the weight get a loss. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
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That's what I'm fucking... | |
| It should be a loss. | ||
| I feel like it's a loss, and I feel like there's no fight, and I feel like the other guy gets paid. | ||
| There's only one way to stop it. | ||
| You've got to punish people. | ||
| Tony's career should advance. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You've got to make it a loss because the fighter didn't make weight. | ||
| Why do you have four glasses there? | ||
| One drink. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| He's only having one. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He already had a beer. | ||
| We only have one. | ||
| Gremlins. | ||
| Remember the movie? | ||
| You give the little cute things water. | ||
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Callan. | |
| They turn into devils. | ||
| Callan. | ||
| You're fucking up. | ||
| This goes into chemtrails and Operation Thunderfoot. | ||
| It's 555, people. | ||
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Once he takes that, and we start talking about Kennedy and who did it. | |
| We already did it. | ||
| We already did it. | ||
| I want to get more into it. | ||
| Meanwhile, we're not even watching this awesome Ray Borg fight. | ||
| He's one of the few flyweights in this division that is a real interesting candidate for fighting Mighty Mouse. | ||
| And for me, he's a tough motherfucker, man. | ||
| Number three in the world, people just ride him off because he also got destroyed by DJ, but number three in the world really doesn't lose. | ||
| DJ's just something special. | ||
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DJ, if you're listening, you've got to do super fights. | |
| I'm sick of seeing you fight it that way. | ||
| We've got to move on, man. | ||
| Dominic Cruz, do you hate money? | ||
| I don't know what it is, man. | ||
| I don't know what it is, but I feel like I want to see him clean out that division. | ||
| Keep cleaning it. | ||
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And just keep doing it? | |
| Look, I think... | ||
| You, me, and 75,000 other people are watching it. | ||
| I think there's plenty of fights for Dominic Cruz or anybody else at 135. Between Cody Garbrandt, TJ Dillashaw, I believe Lineker is much less attractive. | ||
| Dillashaw exposed him. | ||
| Dillashaw pretty much kind of clowned him. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| Goddamn Dillashaw was good in that fight. | ||
| Dude, Dillashaw, Garbrandt? | ||
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What? | |
| What? | ||
| What do you think happens in that fight? | ||
| It's big. | ||
| Tell you what, man, I would have had one opinion of what would happen in that fight before the Cruz fight, before Cody fought Cruz, but after Cody fought Cruz, he looked so fucking good. | ||
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He outclassed him. | |
| I was like, Jesus Christ, he's good. | ||
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And he hits like a tank. | |
| He hits like a tank. | ||
| He's fast as fuck. | ||
| His boxing is laser beam accurate, and he's getting better. | ||
| And it wasn't that close of a fight. | ||
| He's getting better. | ||
| He outclassed Dom. | ||
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And then you see, you can't do MMA math, but I'm going to do it here. | |
| You got Dom and TJ. It was a battle. | ||
| Something TJ won. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I just feel like Garbrandt, he's like a little Chuck Liddell of that weight class. | ||
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Like, he lands. | |
| You're fucking in trouble, man, so fast. | ||
| I thought your podcast with Dominic was amazing. | ||
| I really have so much respect for that guy. | ||
| He's so bad. | ||
| He's so intelligent about fighter's mind and dealing with injuries, but his injury, the amount of injuries he had to deal with, are crazy. | ||
| Like the tendon pulling off his heel in the fight. | ||
| Crazy shit. | ||
| Formiga just landed a beautiful... | ||
| Oh man, this fight is fucking hot, man. | ||
| Formiga landed a beautiful leg kick and Ray Borg came back with a leg kick of his own and a spinning back fist behind it. | ||
| I'd like Borg to get a win there. | ||
| Borg's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| He's a bowhunter. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Jackson's fella. | ||
| Yeah, after his fight he called out John Dudley. | ||
| He just said, I wanted to be on your podcast and I want to go bow hunting with you. | ||
| He's a bow hunting fanatic. | ||
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Damn. | |
| Yeah, GCA, he doesn't get enough credit because he's out in Brazil doing a thing and he's small. | ||
| DJ barely gets enough credit. | ||
| So all these guys, it's a tough go for them. | ||
| It's a tough go. | ||
| That's why DJ just needs to, I think, start doing super fights. | ||
| Give him DJ. Give him Dom. | ||
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Let's do it. | |
| Isn't it crazy, though, that 35's got so much hype behind it and 25 has almost none? | ||
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Because we just don't care about those tiny, tiny guys. | |
| But it's 10 pounds difference between 25 and 35. Isn't that funny? | ||
| I know they're so small. | ||
| As long as there's someone smaller than you, we'll pay attention. | ||
| It's like, what we need is a strawweight men's division. | ||
| And then DJ would be like, these little motherfuckers over here. | ||
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He's like, these little bitches. | |
| They're fighting these little tiny 115 pounds. | ||
| I just, I don't know what DJ's waiting for. | ||
| Maybe they're not offering him or whatever. | ||
| Well, he's got to hit Wilson Hayes in his next fight. | ||
| And after the Wilson fight, like... | ||
| Then what do we do? | ||
| Borg? | ||
| Don't the new owners of the UFC have the power to create stars? | ||
| Hard to create Hollywood? | ||
| Well, you gotta win. | ||
| You don't have to be undefeated. | ||
| It's not boxing. | ||
| You just have to be a... | ||
| Yeah, blow up personalities. | ||
| The smaller guys. | ||
| Personality's hard to put into a fighter. | ||
| Personality has to be there. | ||
| People have gotta be able to talk. | ||
| Maybe they're there and we just haven't seen it. | ||
| Well, DJ's got a fun personality. | ||
| He's great on podcasts. | ||
| He's a fun dude. | ||
| It's just people, for whatever reason, haven't appreciated what they're seeing. | ||
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Yeah, but look at Chocolacito in boxing. | |
| They think he's, if you talk to any boxing, he's the best in the world. | ||
| He fights on Triple G's card. | ||
| The pay-per-view, I think, is next weekend. | ||
| Does anyone... | ||
| If he came here right now, no one knows who he is. | ||
| Formiga. | ||
| I think TJ is the most exciting fighter. | ||
| Oh, what a scramble. | ||
| What a scramble. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Ray Borg all over it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He's grabbing the cage, son. | ||
| 25ers are mad dogs, man. | ||
| The pace is so insane. | ||
| Don't you think that T.J. is the most exciting fighter to watch? | ||
| T.J. or DJ? T.J. Dillashaw. | ||
| No, no. | ||
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Definitely not. | |
| No, he's not the most exciting fighter in the world to watch, but he's one of the best. | ||
| He's definitely one of the best. | ||
| He's so unorthodox. | ||
| He's just so, I mean... | ||
| Did you see Cody Garbrandt? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dominic Cruz? | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| Did you see Rumble Johnson? | ||
| Yeah, but I'm saying exciting. | ||
| He's from angles and just movements. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Oh, he's excellent. | ||
| No, he's great. | ||
| He's one of the best in the world. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| And if he can beat Cody, he's in my pound-for-pound top five. | ||
| Fuck yes. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I think he was, when he beat Baral the second time, I was like, well, make an argument for someone who's higher up the top. | ||
| Oh, look at that back take. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
| That was high level off the cage, that back take. | ||
| He took that back and immediately went to the body triangle. | ||
| The squeeze. | ||
| Everybody does that now. | ||
| Everybody goes to the squeeze. | ||
| Especially their camp. | ||
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Think about it. | |
| He's with Aldo and Burrell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy that that was a rare move. | ||
| The body triangle was a rare move. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Jean-Jacques did it in Abu Dhabi in the late 90s to everybody. | ||
| But it was in the UFC. It was pretty rare. | ||
| Up until Ivan Salivary did it to... | ||
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It's so controlling. | |
| And I didn't start doing it and putting it into my game heavily until Jean-Jacques came back from Abu Dhabi. | ||
| And I thought, why did you keep doing a triangle across... | ||
| How come you kept holding them like that? | ||
| Because he never really did that in class. | ||
| He was just straight hooks. | ||
| And he said, man, so grease. | ||
| So much grease. | ||
| They're slipping. | ||
| So I had to lock their hips in or they would have slipped out. | ||
| And that's all I need. | ||
| When John Jock says something, you don't question it. | ||
| You just pretty much bank on it. | ||
| That's the way to go. | ||
| Anything he's ever told me to do, any kind of direction he's pointing me in, boom, I go right to him. | ||
| You know who I bet has the most body-locked time in the UFC? And I don't know who would track it. | ||
| I would bet Anderson Silva does. | ||
| If you think about with Travis Luter, Dan Henderson, that motherfucker spends a ton of time there. | ||
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A ton, if you think about his fights, when they go to the ground. | |
| It's so hard to get out of, man. | ||
| I've never seen anybody get out of it. | ||
| Did he get Travis Luter's back? | ||
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Yes. | |
| He triangled it. | ||
| He triangled it. | ||
| From the bottom. | ||
| He was on the bottom. | ||
| He had his back like that. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| Travis mounted him, I know. | ||
| But it's exhausting. | ||
| Isn't it hard to breathe and stuff? | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| That was my best example for the longest time of a guy that was on death's door was Travis when he didn't make weight for the Anderson Silva fight. | ||
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Title fight. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Ray Borg tried to escape. | ||
| Tried to escape. | ||
| Made it. | ||
| He spun. | ||
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The grease. | |
| Look at that. | ||
| He tied the triangle. | ||
| He still spun. | ||
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The grease in the way. | |
| Yep. | ||
| And also being a really tiny guy. | ||
| And sweaty as fuck in the third round with two minutes left. | ||
| These guys move so fast and they don't get fucking tired. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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They can just go all day. | |
| 10 rounds. | ||
| The game is just so different for them. | ||
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Must be fun. | |
| But they get tired too, man. | ||
| Like, remember when Ali Bagutinov fought DJ and DJ outworked him and then it turns out that he was on EPO? Oh, those are some big elbows. | ||
| If you're a 125-round EPO, probably not for you. | ||
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This probably ain't the game for you. | |
| Ray Borg is landing some big shots right here. | ||
| Ray Borg is no joke, man. | ||
| But neither is Formiga. | ||
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No, for me, it's no credit. | |
| Oh, damn. | ||
| These are hard. | ||
| He busted his face open. | ||
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Is this Anderson Travis Lewin? | |
| Oh, he's busted open. | ||
| He's triangling him from the bottom. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And he's holding the back of his neck. | ||
| He's letting him have that arm bar. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He's letting him have that left arm. | ||
| He should swing. | ||
| He's holding on to his neck. | ||
| That's how Randy Couture got arm barred against Ensign. | ||
| Just holding on that neck. | ||
| He's not doing it anymore now. | ||
| Right there already? | ||
| He should swing? | ||
| Right there, too. | ||
| He has it. | ||
| It's open. | ||
| He should be swinging. | ||
| Oh, he just got cut open. | ||
| You see that splatter that just came off him? | ||
| Great elbow. | ||
| Dude, look how bloody the mat is. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, he's cutting them with these elbows. | ||
| Oh, look at that. | ||
| He went for it. | ||
| At least he's out of that spot. | ||
| Gotta give this to Borg. | ||
| Look at this, though. | ||
| Borg immediately goes back to the back mount. | ||
| And Borg's jiu-jitsu is high level. | ||
| His transitions are sick. | ||
| His transitions and those fucking elbows from the top position are so scary. | ||
| Dude, for me, though, he's trying to flatten them. | ||
| Arm triangle right there. | ||
| He should just close it off. | ||
| Well, his arm's not under yet. | ||
| He could've just put it there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the other guy's got wrist control. | ||
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Is he gonna slide them out? | |
| Oh! | ||
| Scramble! | ||
| He still has it right there. | ||
| And he still has that opportunity for the elbows. | ||
| He should turn the twister, pass free the knee, and then slice to three-quarter mount, just like Daniel Maia does. | ||
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Ten seconds left. | |
| But this speed of these exchanges is what you're really supposed to be looking for in MMA. Oh, he's going for the choke. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Five seconds left. | ||
| He's gotta go for it. | ||
| A tough guy to choke. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| These guys at this weight class are so fucking amazing. | ||
| This is what MMA is supposed to be. | ||
| It's supposed to be movements without any physical limitations. | ||
| You just can't move at this pace if you weigh 300 pounds. | ||
| But also, at heavyweight, the lighter weights, the reason why we like it is it can end at any given moment. | ||
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These chance of getting finished aren't great. | |
| Yeah, I mean, except for Cody, who knocks guys out with one shot. | ||
| At 135%? | ||
| Yeah, 135. DJ's knocked out a few people at 25, and he knocked out Benavidez with one punch. | ||
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Benavidez's bad. | |
| But the reality is, it's way more rare, that weight class, to see a one-shot KO. And that's why it's not as big as a draw. | ||
| Yeah, but it's also why those guys exchange many more techniques. | ||
| They're not going to be able to finish each other off with one shot, so everybody's much more technical oriented. | ||
| Way more technical, yeah. | ||
| You have to be. | ||
| If you look at these two guys and these scrambles, they're so technical. | ||
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If you had the skills at heavyweight or 205 as either one of these guys, you'd be the greatest of all time. | |
| Could you imagine if there was a fucking heavyweight that moved like Ray Borg? | ||
| That would be insane. | ||
| He'd be the greatest of all time. | ||
| Ray Borg is a top 10 contender for sure, but he hasn't got a shot at the title yet. | ||
| If he was a heavyweight... | ||
| If he was a heavyweight, he'd be the greatest of all time. | ||
| You wonder if there's anybody who's... | ||
| Like, if there are any athletes in the other sports who have that kind of explosion, speed, dexterity... | ||
| Well, in jiu-jitsu, Bouchesha is a guy like that. | ||
| Yeah, but, like, take a Westbrook. | ||
| Russell Westbrook. | ||
| If he trained MMA, Russell Westbrook. | ||
| If he had trained MMA, like, you know, since he was 17, it's a chance he could be a guy that big with that kind of speed, right? | ||
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For sure. | |
| Yeah, they're out there. | ||
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They're just not interested in getting punched in the face for... | |
| They can make way more money playing football. | ||
| And also, they probably started doing that sport when they were a little kid, and they got amazing at it. | ||
| And for them to transfer over into MMA. In 20 years, you'll see a guy like that. | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
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Maybe not the heavier weights, but... | |
| They're going to have to want to do it. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
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The pay's going to have to bring the parents to do it, too. | |
| Right. | ||
| I think Anthony Johnson could play NFL. Oh yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| No, not right now, but if he played football in high school and in college, he's got the frame and the height. | ||
| He'd be like a safety. | ||
| He'd be a safety. | ||
| It's a lot of speculation. | ||
| That's like saying if Ray Lewis was a kickboxer, he'd be a world champion. | ||
| What I'm saying is you guys are talking about these athletes and some upcoming future. | ||
| We already got a few of them. | ||
| We got Jon Jones. | ||
| Jon Jones? | ||
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No, Jon Jones wouldn't be a professor in any other sport. | |
| Isn't that funny? | ||
| I doubt that. | ||
| He ran the 40. He ran like a 4.9 or 5 flat. | ||
| His brothers, on the other hand, his brothers are beasts. | ||
| It's just a different set of skills. | ||
| It's hard to compare apple and oranges. | ||
| But it's the same... | ||
| You know, he's so athletic, right? | ||
| Jon Jones? | ||
| For fighting. | ||
| Yes, but that translates to... | ||
| In the NFL? No. | ||
| Well, you know what, man? | ||
| It's like, how much time did he dedicate towards that? | ||
| How much time did he dedicate towards wrestling and MMA practice? | ||
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Yeah, but if you run a 40... | |
| Or let's just say a sprint. | ||
| If you went against a guy who, what does he weigh, 220 pounds? | ||
| If you just ran a sprint against a Division I football guy smoking the shit out of him, that's just, that's pure athleticism. | ||
| But if he played football, maybe he puts on a lot of muscle and a lot of weight. | ||
| He plays a defensive end. | ||
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He gets slower. | |
| He'd be a defensive end. | ||
| You don't have to be that fast playing the line. | ||
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Oh, these days you do. | |
| How far can they, do they run four 740s? | ||
| Yeah, oh shit. | ||
| Defensive linemen on average? | ||
| JJ Watts? | ||
| 300-something, maybe 290 pounds runs a 4'6". | ||
| At the end, those guys are freaks. | ||
| They just had a 370-pound guy run a 4'7". | ||
| No way. | ||
| 370. Did you see this? | ||
| Just think about... | ||
| 370 pounds. | ||
| He ran a 4 if you're standing next to that guy. | ||
| Wide receivers run 4'7". | ||
| Jamie, look, that guy, he's a lineman, 370. He ran a 4'7". | ||
| Keenan McArdle did. | ||
| It's so crazy to think about what that would feel like. | ||
| What do you think you're dealing with? | ||
| Think about what that would feel like to be on the field while that guy runs by you. | ||
| That's why he's MVP. Look at these elbows. | ||
| But I mean, if you could stand there, like right next to him as he's sprinting, just let him run by you so you could just feel the force of almost 400 pounds running faster than you ever could hope to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Launching his enormous body down the track. | ||
| They find that guys who are that big and that fast actually end up getting injured faster. | ||
| So bigger and faster in the NFL, according to fight or sports science. | ||
| It's not always better because you get injured faster. | ||
| Well, I would imagine your soft tissue could only take so much. | ||
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They're talking about the biggest guys? | |
| Yeah, apparently they did a thing where you get huge dudes who are really fast and somehow they don't last as long as somebody who's... | ||
| Because it's physics, right? | ||
| Because your body can only take so much. | ||
| It would depend on the position and depend on the guy, for sure. | ||
| Well, it's also the sport itself is so fucking ruthless on your body. | ||
| I mean, it just breaks you. | ||
| The injury rate is 100% or something. | ||
| Somebody said that in the NFL. Everybody's injured. | ||
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Well, it depends on injury. | |
| I had Arian Foster on the podcast this week, and one of the things he said is if my kids wanted to play football, I'd be like, fuck that. | ||
| You're not playing football. | ||
| He goes, I didn't bust my ass to get to this position to watch you do that shit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I can see how he says that. | ||
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That guy was a freak. | |
| He's a freak. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| He's a fucking monster. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| Super freak. | ||
| And he was like, I'm tired of it. | ||
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Aaron Foster, he led the league in Russian for a lot of years. | |
| He retired because he wanted to. | ||
| He had a bunch of injuries and he was like, I don't want to do this anymore. | ||
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He's only 30, right? | |
| He's young. | ||
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He's a freak, man. | |
| He's in his fucking prime right now. | ||
| 30, and he decided... | ||
| For running back, it's time to go. | ||
| He's a smart dude. | ||
| He's not completely motivated by money. | ||
| He's not motivated by fame. | ||
| He also got paid. | ||
| So it's easier to say that when you get money in the bank. | ||
| He's hanging back. | ||
| But he's also being smart about being paid. | ||
| He doesn't have $500,000 worth of jewelry on him. | ||
| He's not being an asshole. | ||
| You wonder what LeBron James would be like in the heavyweight division. | ||
| He's too big. | ||
| He's too big. | ||
| 265. He could get down to 265. How much does he weigh? | ||
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No, I think LeBron's 250 now. | |
| 253 or something, right? | ||
| I wonder what his jab would look like. | ||
| He got on some weird diet and lost a lot of weight. | ||
| What'd you say, Jamie? | ||
| I was saying, yeah, as an older guy now, he's kind of a little bit thinner. | ||
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Yeah, he's like 250, 240. Is he the best all-time, LeBron James? | |
| He's a keto kid. | ||
| I don't know if he's officially, but his picture comes up when you kind of Google something like that. | ||
| The best all-time? | ||
| LeBron? | ||
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LeBron? | |
| No, Michael Jordan. | ||
| Still better? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| What does he have to do to surpass him? | ||
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Nothing. | |
| It's not happening. | ||
| What if he wins like five more championships? | ||
| Still? | ||
| No, because you know why? | ||
| Because he only wins championships when he forms these super teams. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| Like, that's a bitch move. | ||
| The Bulls had a super team, too, man. | ||
| Pippen and all those guys. | ||
| Yeah, but at the time, Jordan was still a beast, you know? | ||
| Like, he didn't ask for all that stuff, and they drafted these guys. | ||
| It wasn't like he was like, oh, Magic, come play with me. | ||
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Larry, come play with me. | |
| Well, the first few years, Jordan didn't win a ring until, what, the sixth year, seventh year, something like that? | ||
| Yeah, still a monster, though, you know? | ||
| Better question is... | ||
| Of course. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| Look, look, look, look. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| Bam! | ||
| Dude, that is on the cheek. | ||
| That is 100% heel to cheek. | ||
| 100% heel to cheek. | ||
| By the way, what's his name? | ||
| That's worse than I thought. | ||
| Way worse. | ||
| Felder? | ||
| Felder. | ||
| He's a badass. | ||
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Is he still fighting? | |
| See, that's worse to me. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That fucking... | ||
| See, with the one with Terry Edom, it just looks like it's not as bad because he stiffens up and on impact his head doesn't snap back, but it's because he was... | ||
| Dead out. | ||
| Guarantee they showed again. | ||
| Dead out from the impact of the heel to the cheek. | ||
| So muscular. | ||
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100%. | |
| I'll take your word for it. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| If you watch the video of him getting wheel kicked in the back, you see Ari. | ||
| Ari stands up like this. | ||
| Just like... | ||
| Yeah, you could see the wheel kick land and Ari's in the background probably on acid. | ||
| What are you watching, Jimmy? | ||
| This is the amazing athlete. | ||
| He's not 370, this guy was 307, ran a sub 5 this year. | ||
| Jesus Christ, look at the size of him. | ||
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This guy is 306 and he ran a 465. Jesus Christ! | |
| 306 pounds?! | ||
| 306 and he ran a what?! | ||
| 4-6-5. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Watch him again. | ||
| Watch this guy do this. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| I mean, he's in. | ||
| What position is this guy going to play? | ||
| O-line. | ||
| He'll be a tackle. | ||
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Hey, what college did you from doing this, eh? | |
| That's a weird symbol. | ||
| Maybe it was.307, not.377. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Was this recent? | ||
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This was a couple years ago. | |
| There was a guy who recently did some crazy shit. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| That's wide receiver speed at 300 pounds. | ||
| Yeah, now think about this. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He should play defense. | ||
| Fuck that offense. | ||
| They could use his speed on defense. | ||
| Playing offensive linemen, you don't need speed that much. | ||
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I wonder if that guy's still in the NFL. What'd you snack down there, Joe? | |
| Imagine that guy running out for you. | ||
| He could play middle linebacker with that speed. | ||
| Imagine him right there in the middle. | ||
| Some guy ran the fastest one ever, I think, right? | ||
| Yeah, from Washington. | ||
| 4-2. | ||
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4-2? | |
| And how about this? | ||
| You know, if he broke the record, well, Adidas gave this challenge, they go, anyone who breaks the record, they're going to give you an island of your choice and a million dollars, but you have to do an Adidas. | ||
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This fool ran in Nike, so he didn't get it. | |
| So sad. | ||
| They were gonna give him an island? | ||
| A fucking island. | ||
| What, off the coast of Japan or some shit? | ||
| Nah, you could pick. | ||
| It was like five different islands. | ||
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They asked me, dude, you could have won an island. | |
| He goes, I don't own a boat and I can't swim, so I don't care. | ||
| Alright, well. | ||
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How great is that? | |
| I don't own a boat and I can't swim. | ||
| Yeah, just give me the money. | ||
| Don't give me an island. | ||
| Who is Biz Bing fighting next? | ||
| GSP, sir. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| These things you're eating, these are backpacker meals. | ||
| I got the guy who invented this coming on my podcast. | ||
| It's called Green Belly Meals, and they have a ton of calories. | ||
| I was going to say a ton of calories if you're hiking. | ||
| Yeah, it's got a ton of carbs in it too, though. | ||
| These are non-keto. | ||
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This isn't keto? | |
| It's exogenous ketones afterwards. | ||
| But if you just have like half of it, you're good. | ||
| Half of it is 25 grams. | ||
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Am I going to shit my pants because I got a thousand calories? | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's not, but it's very dense. | ||
| Very dense and heavy. | ||
| It's fucking delicious. | ||
| We've got to perform tonight at the Comedy Store. | ||
| Backpackers like to take these things with them because they're really nutrient-dense. | ||
| You have another one? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a bunch in the back. | ||
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There's some more in here. | |
| They're one-third of the... | ||
| Yeah, one of those. | ||
| If you go into the back, go into the room. | ||
| One-third daily nutrition. | ||
| Protein, calories, fiber, fats. | ||
| I don't know why we just don't order a goddamn pizza sometimes, you know? | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
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I just don't get it. | |
| I'm not opposed to that. | ||
| Tapioca syrup is the first ingredient. | ||
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You can't eat into the mic. | |
| You can't have cheese on your fucking fingers. | ||
| What? | ||
| If you're eating, you're not talking. | ||
| I know, we can't have that. | ||
| Or maybe we have it delivered after. | ||
| These are peanut apricot. | ||
| I ain't eating them. | ||
| Peanut apricot is good. | ||
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And this one is cranberry almonds. | |
| is to a cranberry almond. | ||
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It's actually pretty tasty. | |
| Yeah, that shit's pretty good. | ||
| This is like an ad for Green Belly Meals. | ||
| I'll just tell you right now, I have no affiliation with these people. | ||
| It's not an advertisement. | ||
| I don't make any money from it. | ||
| I bought it. | ||
| I paid for it with American money. | ||
| American money. | ||
| I read about it or listened to them on a podcast, the Rich Outdoors podcast, a hunting podcast. | ||
| Who's the strength coach you've talked to do you think that you've gotten the most from? | ||
| You've talked to a lot of them. | ||
| You know, I've got a lot from Steve Maxwell for sure. | ||
| I've got a lot from listening to Pavel Tatsulin talk on other podcasts and talk on audiobooks and I've read his books too. | ||
| I feel like him, he's a big one. | ||
| Keith Webber. | ||
| We've had Keith Webber on the show. | ||
| He's the guy that has that extreme kettlebell cardio workout, the DVDs. | ||
| He's got three of them. | ||
| They're fucking insane. | ||
| They're so hard to do. | ||
| You can do them with one 45-pound kettlebell and they'll kick your ass. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| At the end of the... | ||
| How long are they? | ||
| 45 minutes, I think? | ||
| 40, 40, 44 minutes? | ||
| Do you train less? | ||
| Eddie, put your headphones on so you realize how loud opening that back and forth is. | ||
| Are you somebody now who believes in training less than you did from talking to those guys? | ||
| guys as in are most people overtrained this is what I think they what Pavel has going on is uh something that he calls greasing the groove and what he believes is you should never go to failure he's like your body's not designed to go to failure if you're doing uh like say if you're you're doing something you could do 10 reps with it and then at 10 you're like you should do five and they should walk away for five to ten minutes and do another five yeah because if you're trying | ||
| When you're trying to get strong, the way you do it is continue to do those motions correctly with full strength and full balance and full control of the kettlebell, full control of the dumbbell, whatever. | ||
| If you're doing clean and press, whether you're doing deadlifts, with full control. | ||
| So you're lifting with perfect technique, right? | ||
| And then take a long time off so that when you come back 10 minutes later, your body's 100% recovered. | ||
| So you're not like still dying from the last set that you did 30 seconds ago. | ||
| Come Push it, push it, push it! | ||
| Isn't that what sports are? | ||
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That's just to build strength, though, right? | |
| That's what we're talking about. | ||
| We're talking about strength. | ||
| We're not talking about cardio. | ||
| If you want to do cardio... | ||
| Or muscle building. | ||
| Well, you're for sure going to build a lot of muscle if you get stronger. | ||
| But there's a big difference between that and the hypertrophy if you're trying to just gain weight. | ||
| If you're trying to just get your muscles bigger and do bodybuilding exercises, a lot of those dudes like to do pyramids. | ||
| They'll stack up the weight real high and then they drop the weight down and continue the reps until they have almost no weight. | ||
| You know, there's real questions as to whether or not that's a smart way to train as an athlete. | ||
| The idea being is that as an athlete, say if you have a brutal strength and conditioning workout where you're doing everything to failure, deadlifts to failure, clean press to failure, curls to failure, overhead press to failure... | ||
| The next day, you're useless, man. | ||
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That would be a bad idea. | |
| You're useless. | ||
| You're not going to be able to spar. | ||
| You're not going to be able to do jujitsu. | ||
| You're going to get mauled. | ||
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But there's different phases for that, I feel like. | |
| There could be. | ||
| That's one way of looking at it. | ||
| But his way of looking at it is, you do these workouts where you lift a small percentage, like half, of what your actual max would be in terms of repetitions, and just take 10 minutes off and then do that again. | ||
| Take 10 minutes off and take a long time off and do that again. | ||
| And by that way, you leave and you still have a lot left in the tank. | ||
| These guys are fucking going at it! | ||
| Goddamn! | ||
| Edson Barbosa and Benil Dariush are throwing down. | ||
| Look at Dariush just coming straight forward. | ||
| What about maxing out, though? | ||
| What do they talk about with that? | ||
| I mean, you might want to do it every now and then just to find out where you stand, but it's not something that you should do on a regular basis for a workout. | ||
| Because I feel like a lot of sports are where you're maxing out. | ||
| You're trying your hardest. | ||
| If you're fighting for sure, if you're, you know, so it seems counterintuitive. | ||
| Why does it seem counterintuitive if you're doing strength? | ||
| If you're wrestling or you're doing jiu-jitsu or, you know, a lot of times if you watch these guys, they're spending a long time doing, using their entire body in sort of probably in a maximum effort position, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| What? | ||
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I wouldn't say no. | |
| So if you're trying to get out of a body lock or you're, you know what I mean? | ||
| Or you're in a clinch and stuff. | ||
| When do you go to failure? | ||
| When do you ever go to failure in a sport? | ||
| Well, I guess you don't. | ||
| You don't really go to muscle failure in a sport. | ||
| What you do is you want to make sure those muscles are strong, and then you want to build up your technique. | ||
| Oh, high kick by Barboza! | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You want to build up your technique and your endurance in the sport itself, like your ability to do rounds as a fighter, or rounds rolling in jiu-jitsu, or whatever other sport you're doing. | ||
| Your real endurance training is probably going to come from sprints. | ||
| Your real endurance training is going to come from something different outside of strength training. | ||
| Or actually doing the sport itself. | ||
| Actually doing the sport itself, or then again, there's also argument for plyometrics, which is a great thing to do, which is also sort of the same kind of result that you're getting from movement training, from a lot of other things that people are doing. | ||
| What's plyometrics? | ||
| Explosives? | ||
| Box jumps, jumping over hurdles. | ||
| So if I said you can only do five exercises... | ||
| Why would I say why, bitch? | ||
| Because, let's just say you can only do five. | ||
| What are the five most important? | ||
| Are you writing a strength condition book right now? | ||
| I would say you should do more than five things unless there's something wrong with you. | ||
| No, because people don't have that much time. | ||
| Those fucking people need to go fuck themselves. | ||
| Squats, push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups. | ||
| I'd say don't ask me any stupid questions. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And back raises. | ||
| Squats, deadlifts. | ||
| That's not a stupid question. | ||
| I'd say squats, deadlifts, chin-ups are huge, and I think weighted chin-ups are even more huge. | ||
| Push-ups. | ||
| I'm a big believer in weighted chin-ups. | ||
| I love putting one of those dip belts on with a kettlebell in between my legs and doing chin-ups that way because it makes my max chin-ups go way higher. | ||
| And I do them with strict form. | ||
| None of that airy-fairy cross felt kipping. | ||
| You're not into kipping, bro? | ||
| You're not into kipping? | ||
| You're not a kipper? | ||
| No, I'm not kipping. | ||
| I had you pegged as a kipper, brother. | ||
| You know what I think? | ||
| I think you should be able to do strict form pull-ups and find out how much endurance you actually have in your arms without moving your legs with it and everything else. | ||
| Strict. | ||
| In Strong First, in Pavel's organization, you have to be able to do straight pull-ups. | ||
| Like from the bottom, full extension. | ||
| Damn, Benil Darish with a big kick to the body. | ||
| He's bullying him. | ||
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He's going straight forward, not letting him tee off. | |
| This is a crazy-ass fight. | ||
| Nice knee to the body. | ||
| Is Darius a Samba guy or a Graco guy originally? | ||
| He's a jiu-jitsu black belt. | ||
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Jiu-jitsu and Muay Thai. | |
| His jiu-jitsu is nasty. | ||
| And he's a Rafael Cordero student. | ||
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Amazing. | |
| Oh, kicked to the body by Barbosa. | ||
| Barbosa's so fucking fast. | ||
| But Darius is on him, man. | ||
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Darius is winning the stand-up game. | |
| I don't know about all that. | ||
| It's close. | ||
| Barbosa's been fighting a long time, I feel like. | ||
| Oh, left hand by Darius. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| The thing about Barboza is he can just always turn out the lights with one shot. | ||
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Yeah, he's explosive. | |
| And he also does a lot of wild shit, like head kicks and things that can take you out. | ||
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Darius is the underdog. | |
| I like him as the underdog if I was betting on it. | ||
| Is Felder still fighting? | ||
| I haven't seen him in a while. | ||
| Yeah, he just won. | ||
| He's a killer. | ||
| You know he majored in theater in school? | ||
| Inside leg kick. | ||
| Who did Felder just fought? | ||
| Just fought. | ||
| Where did I learn to speak English? | ||
| I was caged that with that. | ||
| He took a little time off. | ||
| When he fought Barbosa. | ||
| But he did win his last fight, did he not? | ||
| I believe he did. | ||
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He didn't fight in a little bit, though. | |
| Smart guy, man. | ||
| Really smart guy. | ||
| Up February 19th and beat Alessandro Ricci. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| He's tough as shit. | ||
| He took a full kick from Barbosa in the body and didn't even flinch. | ||
| A month ago. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Oh, those kicks are so hellish. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Yeah, Barboza might be the best kicker in this fucking division. | ||
| You really saw that in the Pettis fight. | ||
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Can you think of who would be a better kicker in any division? | |
| Oh, again. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Damn. | ||
| But, you know, guys, take it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Remember that Jamie Varner fight? | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| Like, Wonderboy is a phenomenal kicker. | ||
| Different, though. | ||
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As far as, like, leg kicks, body kicks, Barboza's number one for me. | |
| It's pretty goddamn good while we're eating over here. | ||
| I'm trying to think of other really good kickers, but as far as that, yeah. | ||
| Obviously, Cowboy's amazing. | ||
| With his setups. | ||
| I just feel like Barboza is in one basket. | ||
| And then Yair Rodriguez is on another universe. | ||
| Dude, how about him in the first game? | ||
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Frankie Edgar! | |
| God, that's a huge jump for him. | ||
| Frankie Edgar! | ||
| That's such a big leap for Yair. | ||
| I thought Dominick Cruz's point about how Frankie Edgar is... | ||
| You see a lot of fighters that once they start losing, they never recover. | ||
| And then you see certain fighters like Frankie Edgar, who even though they look like they're down and out, always find a way to come back. | ||
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Is he saying in the fight? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's certain fighters that, you know, once somebody else gets the advantage, they, you know, they tend to not be able to kind of come back from it. | ||
| Dude, I just sprayed coffee all over myself. | ||
| White shirt, too. | ||
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That's great. | |
| This coffee thing, something happens with it when you press it. | ||
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Oh, dude, you can't have that. | |
| Is it too full? | ||
| It's spraying out. | ||
| A lot of pressure builds up, Joe. | ||
| Yeah, but why is it spray out like that? | ||
| It's physics. | ||
| I need a pointer and a fucking blackboard. | ||
| You wouldn't be faking it. | ||
| I could show you, dude. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| You don't know how much physics I had. | ||
| Dude, these guys are banging, man! | ||
| Yeah, I like how Darius is being aggressive going forward. | ||
| God! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Is he wearing an invisible helmet? | ||
| Oh Brian, you should write for some sort of a badge sitcom. | ||
| Thanks buddy. | ||
| Is that a compliment? | ||
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I hope so. | |
| I can never figure it out. | ||
| What is he wearing? | ||
| Some sort of a helmet? | ||
| Is he an invisible helmet? | ||
| If that was in a movie, I'd be like, what kind of douchebag? | ||
| I was in a movie. | ||
| I played you in a movie. | ||
| In the movie Warrior. | ||
| Guys, get it, please. | ||
| I might see a penny. | ||
| It was amazing when you brought out the fish bowl. | ||
| I don't want to talk about it, all right? | ||
| I was like, if it was ever in a script, if someone brought that up in a script, I'd be like, hey, see this part? | ||
| No. | ||
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Absolutely not. | |
| No. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that. | ||
| Yet, that's the part I get the most compliments on in the world. | ||
| Because who are you hanging out with? | ||
| I don't want to talk to you. | ||
| I don't want to talk about it. | ||
| Other actors. | ||
| Other actors, bro. | ||
| Hey, uh... | ||
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Other actors. | |
| Dude, she's nine. | ||
| Barbosa's five. | ||
| I gotta come on the road with you sometime. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| I'm busy. | ||
| Never match it up. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Nice jab! | ||
| He went from jab to a single. | ||
| Great takedown defense by Barboza. | ||
| Swanson, Lobov. | ||
| That is a weird fight, man. | ||
| Such a random fight. | ||
| I mean, Swanson's like, what is he, rank number five or something like that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Lobov isn't even top 20. No. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
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But Artem was like talking shit to him. | |
| Then maybe he pulled the Conor flag, you know? | ||
| He's like, hey, Conor's my boy. | ||
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Like, can I do it? | |
| That's a weird fight, though. | ||
| It's a weird fight. | ||
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It's random as fuck. | |
| If you're a cub, what's it do for you? | ||
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I guess, you know? | |
| Keeps him busy. | ||
| Makes him look like a superstar if he wins. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Lose. | ||
| Do you get in better shape than Barboza? | ||
| Mark Henry guy. | ||
| But even him, you know, I mean, that's the thing about Barboza. | ||
| As good as his fucking technique is, as good as his kickboxing is, he still gets tagged. | ||
| Everybody gets tagged. | ||
| This is a brutal goddamn sport. | ||
| Yep, look at the blood on the fucking canvas. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, as good as he is, as good as Barboza is, he still... | ||
| That's the most messiest canvas I've seen in a while. | ||
| Yeah, that's messy. | ||
| Usually they clean that shit up for Fox. | ||
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They spray it. | |
| One of Tony's best fights right there. | ||
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This is Fox? | |
| No, this is FS1. FS1 is not nearly the reach that Big Fox has. | ||
| If that was Big Fox, they would torture us, man. | ||
| It's one of the reasons why I hated doing Big Fox is because they would get out there with spray paint, and they would spray paint the fucking color on the octagon all over that gray area. | ||
| Non-toxic, I'm sure. | ||
| Oh, it's brutal. | ||
| It would blow right over to your face. | ||
| You knew you were breathing in some horrible shit. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| They're actually using real spray paint? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| It's totally illegal, I guarantee you. | ||
| It's some shit that they would do if they were, like, working on a car somewhere. | ||
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God, man. | |
| You know? | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| Just straight primer? | ||
| I don't know who authorized it, I don't know why they were allowed to do it, but we would be sitting there, cage-side, and toxic fucking fumes from spray paint were being blasted all over that canvas, and we would all cough. | ||
| Is it because they just don't want the blood? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| They just didn't want to see the blood. | ||
| Because they think people are like, oh my god. | ||
| People on Big Fox. | ||
| They didn't want to admit what they're selling. | ||
| Oh god damn it. | ||
| It's a bloody sport. | ||
| So you would be sitting there doing commentary and you'd be coughing. | ||
| You'd have to like pull your shirt up above your face like this. | ||
| Like, fucking hey man. | ||
| And the guys who were doing the sound were like, this is fucking brutal. | ||
| I can't believe they're doing this. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Dude, these guys are just coming at... | ||
| This is fucking... | ||
| Darius is like... | ||
| There you go. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Damn, he's good. | ||
| Damn, Darius looks real smooth on his feet. | ||
| The thing about Barboza, though, you gotta always wonder. | ||
| You gotta always wonder when he's gonna uncork something on you. | ||
| He's got such good footwork, too, man. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| That's that Mark Henry, man. | ||
| Because he wasn't always like this. | ||
| Damn. | ||
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Damn. | |
| He used to be a little more stagnant. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Like you just said. | ||
| Like you just said. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| Like you just fucking said. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
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Is that Mario Yamasaki, the ref? | |
| Do you see him come fucking Brock Lesnar bulldogging in? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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Hey man. | |
| Good for Yamasaki. | ||
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Good. | |
| Because he didn't want to get him. | ||
| What timing on that knee. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| That's Mark Henry right there. | ||
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Powerful Mark Henry. | |
| Are you kidding? | ||
| Good lord. | ||
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Almeida, Thomas Almeida. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Oh, I can't wait to see this replay with the fucking timing on that knee. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| I want to know what the fuck Mario runs in the 40. Did you see how fast that was? | ||
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Wait till you see this. | |
| I've never seen a ref react that way, ever. | ||
| Man, oh man. | ||
| That was ridiculous. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| What was it, a left knee? | ||
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Jumping knee? | |
| I don't even remember. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Off a jab! | ||
| It looked like he was going to... | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| Boom! | ||
| And cluck! | ||
| Good for that ref. | ||
| That's great job on that ref. | ||
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Boom! | |
| That blowout fucking... | ||
| That wasn't Yamazaki, was it? | ||
| I can't tell. | ||
| Yeah, it's Mario. | ||
| He's got to make up for that Derek Lewis. | ||
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No, that's not Mario. | |
| Some other Asian fella can fucking body-diver. | ||
| That may be the best referee ever. | ||
| That's a guy I haven't seen. | ||
| We'll see the referee when we see them get their hands raised. | ||
| He almost blew out Barbosa's knee. | ||
| Hey, Spaz, relax. | ||
| Nah, he was good. | ||
| He was good, though. | ||
| He wanted to save Darius. | ||
| That's a good referee. | ||
| So it wasn't Mario Yamasaki. | ||
| Who was the referee? | ||
| No, look at that guy. | ||
| I don't know that guy. | ||
| Oh, his last name's Maya. | ||
| Oh, you did a good job. | ||
| Awesome job. | ||
| Dude, is Damian Maia's brother? | ||
| I don't know, but they're both in Brazil. | ||
| Is there a lot of Maia's in Brazil? | ||
| It's probably his brother. | ||
| Good chance. | ||
| Remember when Rich Franklin's brother used to referee? | ||
| You look at him and you're like, hey man, where did I know you from? | ||
| Yeah, I know you're from somewhere. | ||
| Where did I know you from, man? | ||
| Rich Franklin, let's think about him the other day. | ||
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I was watching a replay of him versus Anderson in Cincinnati. | |
| He was such a fun fighter. | ||
| Remember he was a math teacher? | ||
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Looked like Ace Ventura? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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That's his whole spiel. | |
| Handsome Ace Ventura, big. | ||
| He's a tough motherfucker and one of the first guys to come in in insane, insane shape. | ||
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Insane shape. | |
| He had a real weird workout, though. | ||
| Like, today it would be kind of frowned upon, a lot of the exercises he was doing. | ||
| Because he was doing a lot of, like, isolation exercises and really super high repetitions. | ||
| You know, you remember? | ||
| He was doing, like, machines. | ||
| Like, isolation machines. | ||
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That shit worked, though. | |
| For him. | ||
| For him, it worked. | ||
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Until Andrew Silva came along. | |
| Yeah, well... | ||
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It's a cool story, bro. | |
| Check out these knees. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, you're doing what? | ||
| Let me go and get this plum real quick and knee your nose off. | ||
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How about that? | |
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this card. | ||
| Weidman vs. | ||
| Mousasi, April 8th. | ||
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Did you see the poster? | |
| DC was so pissed. | ||
| I know. | ||
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He goes, what the fuck is this? | |
| He should be. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because Rumble's like 80 times bigger than him. | ||
| Rumble looks like King Kong sitting over and he's the little poor white girl. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| It is Kong. | ||
| Very strange. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| He's Kong looming in the background. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Like he beat him before some shit. | ||
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Like he didn't get choked the fuck out in the first match. | |
| I know, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They look the same size. | ||
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No, no, that's not it. | |
| Right there. | ||
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That's not it. | |
| DC literally was like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| There's a poster that DC put on Instagram, Jamie. | ||
| See if you can find it. | ||
| Just calling him out like, who made this? | ||
| I'm the champ, for God's sakes. | ||
| Barboza with an insane knee. | ||
| Holy shit, that was good. | ||
| That ref, we need to check him for fucking supplements. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Let's see it here. | ||
| I see some motion. | ||
| Dude, this is crazy, but off a fucking jab, man. | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| He didn't back up. | ||
| He just went, oh, okay, here you go. | ||
| For sure that's his brother. | ||
| They look very similar. | ||
| He looks super similar. | ||
| You can Google it. | ||
| You might be racist as fuck, though. | ||
| There might be a shitload of minds. | ||
| You know what's weird? | ||
| You can say it's racist, but that dude is white as fuck. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Look at the Cormier Johnson poster. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Well, that's crazy. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, that is kind of crazy. | ||
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He's the champ, chipping the other way around? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| He's all red and shit. | ||
| Whoever did that should get fired. | ||
| That post is ridiculous. | ||
| It's because, you know, obviously Johnson's a knockout artist and he's winning, but DC's your champ, man, and he beat him before. | ||
| Johnson's looming over him, I guess? | ||
| At least not. | ||
| They fought before. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Is this the same reason why the Ronda Rousey video was all Ronda and very little about Amanda Nunes? | ||
| It's different because neither one of them is a draw. | ||
| Oh, you don't think people want to see Rumble fight? | ||
| I do, but just a Rumble fight is not a big draw. | ||
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I mean, you do. | |
| I love Rumble. | ||
| I'm not complaining about Rumble Johnson. | ||
| But a Rumble fight for the title is different than anybody else fighting for the title. | ||
| The numbers would be on my side on this argument, Joe. | ||
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Not an argument. | |
| I'm just saying he doesn't pull in huge numbers pay-per-view. | ||
| No, I think you're probably right, but I think he has the potential to be a massive star, and that's what they're seeing. | ||
| With his knockout power? | ||
| Yeah, the way he puts guys to sleep. | ||
| I think Rumble Johnson, Jon Jones sells more than Rumble Johnson, Daniel Cormier. | ||
| Well, they already fought and beat him. | ||
| Yeah, I think you're right. | ||
| Look at his timing on his fucking knee. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I mean, that's about as perfect a knee as anybody's ever thrown in life. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
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Ridiculous timing. | |
| He wasn't winning that fight before that. | ||
| Crazy fight. | ||
| Not on my card. | ||
| Oh, well, I didn't have a card. | ||
| Do you have a card? | ||
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Yeah, I'm right here. | |
| Here we go. | ||
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And that ref MVP of the night. | |
| Damn, Edson Barboza's a beast. | ||
| Number five, just beat Darius, knocked him out. | ||
| He's the fun one coming up. | ||
| What a crazy division that 155 is. | ||
| It's just a boiling pot. | ||
| Murder's hero. | ||
| You better do shit together. | ||
| Oh yeah, you have to be able to do everything. | ||
| Because even this guy gets outworked by people. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
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He's lost some big fights. | |
| And how about Pettis? | ||
| Pettis now has to come back to this shit. | ||
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Enjoy that, Pettis. | |
| Yeah, I mean, what does he do? | ||
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But 55 is for him. | |
| But he didn't really have that bad of a run at 55. Lost a couple decisions. | ||
| Oh, listen. | ||
| When he was on top at 55, when he knocked out Cowboy Cerrone with that body kick. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| When he knocked out Joe Lozon. | ||
| When he tapped out Benson Henderson. | ||
| And Benson Henderson to win the title. | ||
| He can still do work. | ||
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He's still a top 10 guy. | |
| He's a beast. | ||
| Hell of an athlete. | ||
| And he's still fairly young. | ||
| I feel like with a guy like that, it's almost like he has to take some time and get his body to the perfect weight and strength to compete at 155. This is the other thing, Joe. | ||
| Where's he at mentally? | ||
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He's been to the top of Everest. | |
| He's put the flag in there. | ||
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You know what it takes to get there. | |
| Do you still want to do that? | ||
| You've been through all this. | ||
| Do you really want to restart from the bottom and go up? | ||
| You know what it's like up there. | ||
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Is it any different? | |
| Yeah, and you're dealing with all the issues. | ||
| It's probably worse now. | ||
| Physical issues. | ||
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Yes. | |
| This DC Rumble fucking promo. | ||
| Dum-dum-dum. | ||
| That's gonna be a fun fight, man. | ||
| Dude, I like Weidman Mousasi on that, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's a very fun fight. | ||
| I like that fight a lot. | ||
| Dude, the Dallas card is stacked! | ||
| Katrina's real good on that one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Who? | |
| I don't know where to start. | ||
| I mean, can you bring that up? | ||
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Just look at it. | |
| There's so many, Eddie. | ||
| My mind's going... | ||
| Well, it's a heavyweight title, right? | ||
| It's Junior Dos Santos versus Stipe Miocic. | ||
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Yeah, Joanna Jacek on that bitch. | |
| And she's fighting... | ||
| Here, go high on that. | ||
| She's fighting Jessica Andrade. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Oh, Eddie Alvarez, Poirier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Benitez, Barzola. | ||
| Gabriel Benitez and Enrique Barzola. | ||
| That's interesting that that's on the main card. | ||
| I don't think that... | ||
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Does that... | |
| It's not set yet. | ||
| They'll just toss them up there. | ||
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Because Frank Yager vs. | |
| Yair Rodriguez is a burner. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| I think it's too much for Yair. | ||
| You think it's too much for Yair? | ||
| This soon. | ||
| He just murked B.J. Penn. | ||
| Henry Cejudo versus Sergio Pettis. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
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I know. | |
| Damn, Sergio Pettis got some serious abs. | ||
| Back up real quick. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| But what in the fuck, Sergio? | ||
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Someone called the golden snitch. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| He's not passing the sniff test. | ||
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Nope. | |
| The snitch test, the golden snitch test, you ain't passing, son. | ||
| Too shredded. | ||
| Wow, what a fucking card. | ||
| Look at that card. | ||
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Sergio Pettis is quietly becoming, you know, a real badass in that division. | |
| The real fight on the card that I'm interested in the most, honestly, is Frankie Edgar versus Yair Rodriguez. | ||
| I'm looking forward to that. | ||
| Dude, over Damian Maia Masvidal? | ||
| As much as anything. | ||
| When are that's going sizzler? | ||
| Yeah, but dude, Yair Rodriguez is doing some crazy street fighter shit in there. | ||
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To BJ Penn? | |
| I want to see it. | ||
| I want to see what he can do to Frankie. | ||
| If he can land a 360 roundhouse kick on Frankie Edgar, we got a party going on here. | ||
| See, I don't like that fight, son. | ||
| The party's with Stipe Dos Santos. | ||
| That's the party, too, right? | ||
| That's the party that did that. | ||
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And it was a close fucking fight. | |
| When is this? | ||
| Man, those faces change. | ||
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May 13th. | |
| Oh, that's a while. | ||
| Yeah, when you get punched, it changes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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When Cain Velasquez fucking tenderizes your face for 10 rounds. | |
| Gee whiz, he looks more and more evil. | ||
| He looks like he's the guy, one of the demons. | ||
| Couldn't get any nicer than that guy. | ||
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Might be the most friendliest guy in the world. | |
| Steve is a good dude, too, but that's a great fucking fight. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They're trying to do Eddie Alvarez versus Ferguson. | ||
| Ferguson's like, nah, man, I'm waiting for this. | ||
| Title shot, huh, Eddie? | ||
| Dude, look at Shogun. | ||
| The mid-work looks kind of strange, no? | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| Yeah, it looks real slow. | ||
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They're doing it for the cameras, fellas. | |
| They're warming up, you know? | ||
| But they might have already warmed up, and when they come in, they go, hey, we're going to get you now on film, and you're almost cold. | ||
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You stand up, and this isn't real. | |
| That guy to the right has been... | ||
| Plus, you don't want to show too much shit. | ||
| That's a crazy fight, though. | ||
| Shogun has been in so many wars. | ||
| You're always like, how many more wars can that guy be in? | ||
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Wait, what's this movie? | |
| Scarlett Johansson's kicking ass again. | ||
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Dude, she's bodied up. | |
| She's just constantly kicking ass. | ||
| She's super bodied up. | ||
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Yep, she got them robot tit hairs. | |
| Hey guys, seriously, don't be misogynist. | ||
| It's Women's Month. | ||
| Is it still Women's Month? | ||
| I have to check you. | ||
| What is misogyny? | ||
| Does that mean you hate women? | ||
| Just because you say she has a nice body does not mean you're a misogynist. | ||
| No, if she went, man, you have some nice... | ||
| But if you say she's got some nice titties, that's being real. | ||
| That's kind of the problem with the way the left brands any kind of, like the narrative of feminism, like women are victims, men are oppressors and toxic and predators. | ||
| And you can't have a discussion from that. | ||
| It's like, just because I think a woman's beautiful and I compliment her or she turns me on, doesn't mean I want to oppress her. | ||
| It just means I want to have sex with her. | ||
| I feel like we turned a corner on that. | ||
| I feel like we're turning a corner on that. | ||
| Not in academia, we haven't. | ||
| Yeah, but I think that they're being critiqued on a level that they've never really been critiqued at before. | ||
| Good, good. | ||
| I'm glad to hear that. | ||
| Don't you think? | ||
| I mean, with the kind of scrutiny that they receive online? | ||
| I do. | ||
| The problem is I think most of us are living in our own echo chambers. | ||
| I think the biggest problem with online stuff is that most of us are able to create our own echo chambers. | ||
| And so there isn't enough exchange of ideas. | ||
| And I think we all need to kind of open up and... | ||
| I think you should listen to the people you disagree with as much as you possibly can to see what you don't like about them and what they're really saying. | ||
| If you rely on just the media, what they're going to do is they're going to highlight four sentences that you said over and over. | ||
| And the biggest problem we have is you can say one sentence and people brand this very complex human being who's always changing day to day, and they'll brand you with a label. | ||
| You're a sexist. | ||
| You're a racist. | ||
| Well, human beings are very different. | ||
| I'm very different day to day, depending on my mood. | ||
| I say some fucked up shit, then I say some really nice things. | ||
| And depending on how I feel, but I know who I am. | ||
| Yeah, defining people through a few tweets or a blog article or something like that, and you're talking about a human's entire life, it's ridiculous. | ||
| It doesn't help. | ||
| It doesn't move ideas forward. | ||
| Well, it's also the reality of censorship. | ||
| I mean, you're attempting to, instead of debate people on their ideas and offer superior ideas, and put your ideas to the test, instead of doing that, they want to silence speech. | ||
| So they want to stop people like Jordan Peterson. | ||
| There's a university that just called him transphobic, and they're trying to get him kicked off of... | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| I think it was in... | ||
| I want to say it was in Dublin. | ||
| Charles Murray was not allowed to speak at a university. | ||
| Well, a lot of people have not been allowed to speak recently. | ||
| And in these leftist universities, they won't even let you speak because you have a different idea. | ||
| Because you might have an idea that grates against the common orthodoxy. | ||
| Yeah, and Jordan Peterson, by the way, is anything but transphobic. | ||
| He's absolutely not. | ||
| And the only thing that he said is he doesn't want to use a bunch of made-up gender stereotypes. | ||
| Either do I. Or gender pronouns, rather. | ||
| Or how about the fact that I have to give you verbal consent in bed so you're getting into my bedroom telling me how to speak? | ||
| I don't think we've seen anything like this, and that's the problem. | ||
| It has to be fought against. | ||
| It's just because it's a form of tyranny. | ||
| And by the way, again, the reason a lot of the liberal press has lost their credibility is because they harp on... | ||
| Think about even with Trump, who I'm not a fan of. | ||
| They brand him all these things where it's kind of, what are we supposed to do when you call somebody that? | ||
| Is it over now? | ||
| Are we just done with that person? | ||
| Or is there a smarter way to break somebody down? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Especially the left. | ||
| I love how the left tries to... | ||
| Speaking of like, if you dislike Trump, the way I would fight Trump is I would do this. | ||
| I would go, he's not a Democrat. | ||
| He's not a Republican. | ||
| He's not even an American. | ||
| He's a Trumpist. | ||
| He's a monarch. | ||
| That's how you get the Second Amendment guys on your side. | ||
| If you're a liberal and you want... | ||
| To get the other people on your side. | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| You're not going to get the Second Amendment guys if he supports them. | ||
| If you frame it the right way. | ||
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But the left doesn't. | |
| The left doesn't support Second Amendment rights. | ||
| So if he does, he gets them. | ||
| I mean, it's really that simple. | ||
| Or you frame the debate a different way, right? | ||
| So be more fair about, be more specific and detailed on how you criticize somebody. | ||
| Forget Trump. | ||
| Anybody. | ||
| Know what you don't like about that person. | ||
| Because there's a lot to like about a lot of people, even if they're assholes, I think. | ||
| I mean, people are complicated, right? | ||
| We all have friends, and all of us have friends we love, and they have aspects of their personality we don't necessarily like day-to-day, right? | ||
| Sometimes they're idiots in certain ways. | ||
| But we forgive them because we know that... | ||
| You're talking about yourself now? | ||
| I'm talking about people. | ||
| You're weirding me out. | ||
| We need a moment of silence when Shogun walks out. | ||
| It might be the last time we see him, right? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| I mean, how many more years can that guy go out? | ||
| Mount Rushmore? | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I have about 40 guys on my Mount Rushmore. | ||
| Mount Rushmore has to be big as fuck. | ||
| Yeah, don't give me four or five. | ||
| Well, first of all, you have to have Hoist Gracie. | ||
| Horace Gracie's on Mount Rushmore, period. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He was the original guy that set it all off, whether or not... | ||
| I mean, he's still got big numbers with that Ken Shamrock fight, right? | ||
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Crazy. | |
| Didn't he get crazy numbers? | ||
| Huge numbers. | ||
| Millions people plus. | ||
| Ken Shamrock's on that. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, he's got to be on that. | ||
| But that's kind of like the way Babe Ruth would be on Mount Rushmore because he's one of the first, right? | ||
| Babe Ruth makes it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But his numbers started it. | ||
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Pioneers. | |
| Yeah, but Babe Ruth and Horace Gracie, they did work. | ||
| They just didn't start it. | ||
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Like, they did fucking work, too. | |
| Right, right. | ||
| Like, Babe Ruth's numbers are legit as shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hoyce Gracie did something spectacular. | ||
| He introduced the idea that a smaller man could beat a bigger man in a real-life fight and with techniques that you've never seen before. | ||
| In a 16-man tournament. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Nobody saw triangles before. | ||
| 16-man tournament. | ||
| When Hoyce Gracie tapped out Dan Severin, no one even knew what the fuck he was doing. | ||
| And then when you try to bring it back, like in 1993, try going to your local jiu-jitsu school. | ||
| Tell them to teach you that. | ||
| Like, oh, that's advanced. | ||
| They were not teaching people triangles because they thought that shit was advanced. | ||
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Nuts. | |
| I know a dude. | ||
| I know a dude who went to a certain jiu-jitsu school right afterwards, and they told him, we can't teach you triangles yet. | ||
| You're not ready for that yet. | ||
| That's advanced techniques. | ||
| They were holding shit back from people. | ||
| Fedor's on that Mount Rushmore for sure. | ||
| 100% Fedor's on there. | ||
| And then current guys, I'd say Kane. | ||
| How many guys can you have on Rushmore? | ||
| Oh, there's too many. | ||
| Mount Rushmore has got to be a new thing. | ||
| If you had to have four, four. | ||
| You can't have four. | ||
| Anderson Silva, GSP. We know that, right? | ||
| How did they decide who was going to be on Rushmore? | ||
| Anderson Silva, GSP, 100%. | ||
| How did they decide? | ||
| Good question. | ||
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Do you know Eddie? | |
| I have no idea. | ||
| You have to say, who are the guys that have stayed at the top for a long time? | ||
| Anderson Silva, GSP. And finished dudes. | ||
| Well, yeah, but then what about Matt Hughes? | ||
| Matt Hughes finished GSP in a title fight. | ||
| How long was Matt Hughes on top? | ||
| A while, right? | ||
| He was on top for quite a while. | ||
| He's another real pioneer that changed the game in a lot of ways because he introduced the idea that high-level wrestling plus submissions. | ||
| Like when he hit that far side arm bar on GSP, GSP went for a Kimura and he didn't secure the legs and Matt Hughes spun around on that far side arm bar and locked it in. | ||
| It was beautiful. | ||
| And then what about Uriah Faber, what he did for the little guys? | ||
| Uriah Faber, you got it. | ||
| No, no, no, but hold on. | ||
| What about Frank Mayer? | ||
| The problem with Uriah Faber is he never won a UFC title. | ||
| And I think if you're talking about a UFC Hall of Fame, BJ Penn. | ||
| In his prime note, he won a WC. How about BJ Penn? | ||
| He did. | ||
| BJ Penn's got to be in there. | ||
| There can't be four. | ||
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It can't be four. | |
| There's 150 people. | ||
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You can't be four. | |
| I don't know how you choose. | ||
| Yeah, you got to choose four. | ||
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It stresses me out. | |
| I can't. | ||
| I get stressed out. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I don't want to do it. | ||
| Is there a heavyweight in there? | ||
| What heavyweight do you choose? | ||
| It'd be probably Fedor, Kane, or Verdun. | ||
| There's an argument for Verdun. | ||
| No, not Verdun. | ||
| Noguera. | ||
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How dare you. | |
| Noguera might be up there, but... | ||
| Yeah, Noguera might be up there. | ||
| I think Fedor, right? | ||
| Over dominance for a long period of time. | ||
| What about Dominic Cruz? | ||
| Knocking dudes out. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah, he only lost twice. | ||
| Once by choke and once by decision. | ||
| You know, lost by choke. | ||
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He's amazing. | |
| Long ass time ago at 145 against Faber. | ||
| Okay, what about Jon Jones? | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| You can't have four. | ||
| He's never lost. | ||
| Jon Jones never lost. | ||
| He lost by whooping a dude's ass and got disqualified. | ||
| How long had that been? | ||
| Because of a stupid rule. | ||
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Hoist, Anderson Silva, Conor McGregor. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You're talking about game changers who changed the game? | ||
| No, you have to look at a couple things. | ||
| Longevity, like how long were they on top? | ||
| That's got to take place, right? | ||
| Let's talk about criteria for it. | ||
| How long have you been on top? | ||
| How did you finish, dudes? | ||
| How many finishes? | ||
| That's got to play a factor. | ||
| What do you mean, how long you were in the top five or champ? | ||
| No, how long were you champ? | ||
| How long did you hold the belt? | ||
| That's got to play a factor. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big factor. | ||
| How did you do it? | ||
| Did you finish? | ||
| How many people did you actually finish? | ||
| Well, it's the caliber of your competition, too. | ||
| Sometimes guys get dominant, and they're in a slump in the division. | ||
| Like when Mike Tyson came along and was murking everybody, and there was Tony Tubbs. | ||
| Yeah, he's like the best of all time. | ||
| Fighting Bruce Seldon. | ||
| Mike Tyson's on my Mount Rushmore for that reason. | ||
| He's on my Mount Rushmore, too. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| GSP fought everybody and stayed on top forever. | ||
| Hoist. | ||
| Hoist. | ||
| BJ, Jon Jones, Anderson Silva. | ||
| GSP! What about Demetrius? | ||
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What about Fedor? | |
| What about Mighty Mouse and Fedor? | ||
| Not Jon Jones. | ||
| Well, see, Jon Jones has never lost, though. | ||
| All those other guys have lost. | ||
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Amazing guys. | |
| And he was the youngest champ. | ||
| How long was he up on top for? | ||
| Two years? | ||
| No longer than that. | ||
| No, he's been on longer than that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He beat Shogun when he was 23, man. | ||
| He's 30 now. | ||
| You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. | ||
| Seven years, B. He wasn't on top of seven years. | ||
| Oh, wait a minute. | ||
| He's on top right now. | ||
| I'm sorry, excuse me. | ||
| How about Jose Aldo? | ||
| He's ahead of John Jones, isn't he? | ||
| Yeah, but he got knocked out by Conor McGregor. | ||
| Okay, he lost. | ||
| After nine years? | ||
| Yeah, but there's a reality of like, you gotta look at someone based on the overall performance of their career. | ||
| He held the belt way longer. | ||
| No, look, he's phenomenal. | ||
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Like three years. | |
| But the big fight, the big fight that he had... | ||
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Against Conor McGregor. | |
| He got murked in 14 seconds. | ||
| John Jones never won. | ||
| That's huge! | ||
| What about Hoyce and Matt Hughes, though? | ||
| Matt Hughes went through Hoyce. | ||
| Oh, he went through him like a hot knife through butter. | ||
| That was an old Hoyce. | ||
| That was not prime. | ||
| That was dad bod Hoyce. | ||
| This is what it is. | ||
| You fucking people. | ||
| Fedor, Anderson Silva. | ||
| No, not Mark Coleman. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Mark Coleman, he changed a lot of shit too. | ||
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He's the one who brought wrestlers to prominence. | |
| I know. | ||
| He won a UFC belt and a Pride belt. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Where's Dan Henderson on that bitch? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Longevity, but not... | ||
| Two-time division champion. | ||
| It's simultaneously in Pride. | ||
| Never UFC, though. | ||
| Pride, UFC. Strikeforce championship. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Fuck everyone. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
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Awesome. | |
| You could argue that he might have won that decision against Bisping. | ||
| He was anywhere other than England. | ||
| A lot of people have argued that. | ||
| I understand, but I'm talking about people who held the belt. | ||
| You have to use belt holders for the longest time, right? | ||
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No, but Dan was fighting in pride. | |
| But Dan was fighting for the belt against Bisping. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| If he beats Bisping and wins the middleweight title, you've got to look at him as like, man, top five of all time. | ||
| He's still top five. | ||
| He still is. | ||
| As far as the three... | ||
| Well, not top five, but who knows what the number is. | ||
| There's too many great guys. | ||
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There's too many. | |
| Oh, these guys are throwing hard right away. | ||
| Both these boys are bangers. | ||
| Flat-footed right in front of this kid. | ||
| The three most dominant winners. | ||
| Of the three guys... | ||
| He's a tough dude, too, man. | ||
| And he's a big fucking guy. | ||
| Football player for a football player. | ||
| Big 205-er, man. | ||
| Big, strong motherfucker. | ||
| This is an interesting fight. | ||
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Where did he play football? | |
| Did he play pro or did he play just college? | ||
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College. | |
| Hofstra. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
|
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Shogun's always had a granite chin. | |
| Oh, shit! | ||
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him, son. | |
| Tagged him. | ||
| Powerful sumbius by Shogun. | ||
| This is a crazy fight. | ||
| Oh, he went to the body. | ||
| That's that veteran approach. | ||
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For sure. | |
| How old is Rua now? | ||
| Shogun's got some weird thing going on with his right... | ||
| No, older than that, isn't he? | ||
| His right pec. | ||
| He's about 30, 32 at the moment. | ||
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I think he's 30. That young? | |
| Yeah, Shogun. | ||
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Shogun is about 30. He's 35. Is he 35? | |
| 35. That's older than I thought. | ||
| Yeah, I thought he was 32. Those are powerful singers. | ||
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He wears the shortest shorts by far, if anyone. | |
| This, actually. | ||
| Do you see how his right pec, he's got some weird thing going on, like where his pec connects over by his shoulder? | ||
| It's almost like something's torn there. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| Oh, he got tuned up! | ||
| He looks softer than normal. | ||
| He got tuned up! | ||
| Vellante's closing it. | ||
| Oh, he's going for the knee! | ||
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Oh, Jesus Christ. | |
| He looks... | ||
| Volante using the jab very nicely. | ||
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He's never had a good body. | |
| I know, I know. | ||
| But just a little softer in the middle. | ||
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Dude, for 35, he looks pretty fucking good right now. | |
| He doesn't look bad. | ||
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Against a young... | |
| He doesn't look bad, but this is a crazy way to fight. | ||
| This is a crazy way to fight. | ||
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That's Shogun though, isn't it? | |
| I know, but... | ||
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In Brazil? | |
| The fuck we expect? | ||
| Stand and bang over the top of the right hand. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Fuck fighting Shogun in Brazil. | ||
| He's also, what, a two-fight win streak? | ||
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Three-fight? | |
| I mean, he's ranked number six, man. | ||
| He's not like just some washed-up vet. | ||
| Vontae's doing a good job of keeping that left hand up high and avoiding that big overhand because he keeps coming over the top. | ||
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It's his jab, though. | |
| He's getting countered over the top. | ||
| But Vontae's been doing a good job. | ||
| See that? | ||
| Blocking that. | ||
| When he sees it, boom. | ||
| Oh, there one goes through right there. | ||
| Yeah, he's getting countered. | ||
| That jab is coming over that jab. | ||
| They have abandoned kicks. | ||
| Abandoned kicks! | ||
| Abandoned kicks! | ||
| Or wrestling. | ||
| Just like, fuck it, let's just box each other in the face. | ||
| That's when you tell dudes have been dinged up. | ||
| And they get dinged up a little bit. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| Shogun threw, like, sort of a half-hearted inside leg kick. | ||
| And you know Vellante can fucking wrestle. | ||
| He takes dudes down. | ||
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He trains with Weidman. | |
| But... | ||
| He's gonna take a big deep breath with two minutes to go. | ||
| This has been a high pace for 205. Yeah. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| His jab is starting to bust Shogun up. | ||
| See his eye? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That right eye and the nose. | ||
| It's that jab, man. | ||
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Dude, does Shogun still fuck with that unibrow? | |
| He still rolls with it? | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah, strong. | ||
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You don't need wax. | |
| He's like Anthony Davis says it's my thing. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| You don't want wax. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Does Vlante train with Ray Longo? | ||
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Weidman, yes. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Weidman guy. | ||
| He also trains with, who's that other guy, the kickboxing, Belmore kickboxing guy. | ||
| Oh! | ||
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Oof. | |
| Over the top of the right hand. | ||
| Oof. | ||
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God damn. | |
| Both of them got granted. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| A GSP's kickboxing trainer. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Oh, you're thinking of Phil Nurse. | ||
| Yeah, does he still in the mix? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't see him a lot anymore. | ||
| He's still trans guy. | ||
| Because he was John's guy for a little bit, and then he was George's guy. | ||
| I don't see him in the background anymore. | ||
| He definitely works with some guys. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| He had the most beautiful gym I've ever seen. | ||
| The Watt in New York City? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Goddamn, it must have cost like $500 a month. | ||
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At least. | |
| How much does it cost to work out there, if you had to guess? | ||
| Everything is so expensive in New York City. | ||
| $100,000 a month. | ||
| Oh, he tagged Shogun! | ||
| Good guess. | ||
| Okay, find out, Jamie, what monthly rates are at The Watt in New York City. | ||
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It's W-A-T. It's all wood flooring and shit. | |
| Is it? | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
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It's going on in the ring? | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| All wood flooring, huh? | ||
| Is it like real stylish in there? | ||
| Yeah, it's beautiful, man. | ||
| He was a great kickboxer, man. | ||
| Phil Nurse was a bad motherfucker. | ||
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Hell yeah. | |
| And great coach, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you better have money. | ||
| It's so expensive for rent there. | ||
| I mean, what is rent in New York City? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Especially where he's at. | ||
| Dude, I've talked to people that have a tiny-ass little apartment, and you talk to them, and you're like, how much do you pay a month? | ||
| $4,000. | ||
| Yeah, four grand for a studio. | ||
| So that means you have to make $50,000 a year just to pay for this apartment? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| 800 square feet. | ||
| So if you make $100,000 a year, half of it is going to your studio apartment. | ||
| Biggest problem is so much Chinese and Russian and foreign money moved into New York and started buying properties. | ||
| And so they sit empty because it's a safe place to put your money. | ||
| So they built these towers where people are literally spending three grand a square foot for apartments that are sitting there empty. | ||
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Why don't they rent them out? | |
| Well, it's a place basically for the very rich to keep their money. | ||
| I get it, but you want to be a dumbass businessman. | ||
| You say that, Brendan Shaw, but in ten years when you're Ballin' out of control. | ||
| And you decide to buy some penthouse up there and just keep it B. It's just for some sort of an investment. | ||
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You're right, you're right, Joe. | |
| Yeah, man, you would have some dope-ass view. | ||
| No, I can't have hoes hanging in there. | ||
| That was one of the best things about that Doctor Strange movie. | ||
| The Doctor Strange movie. | ||
| Oh, shit, he clicked on with that right hand. | ||
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Good God, right behind the head. | |
| And the Doctor Strange movie, Doctor Strange, before he becomes the mystic. | ||
| Spoiler alert, he lives in Manhattan and he has this fucking insane view. | ||
| And that's like a real thing. | ||
| Like you really can get a view like that in some of those apartments. | ||
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You're Scrooge McDuck, yeah. | |
| But if you can afford that view at nighttime, God damn it is one of the most spectacular things that you could see out your windows in a place where you live. | ||
| See, I think that, I think like being in Manhattan owning that and then owning like a dope-ass crib in Malibu facing the beach. | ||
| That would be the shit? | ||
| Those two things together? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Nothing like it. | ||
| The problem is, like, what are you doing there, though? | ||
| What are you doing in New York City? | ||
| Just going to restaurants? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Having parties? | ||
| Come on in, girls! | ||
| I might just stay home and look out the window. | ||
| I might be like, well, look, if you want to get rich, right? | ||
| So why do you want to get rich? | ||
| Well, I want to be able to do whatever I want, and I want to be able to go nice places, I want to be able to eat nice food and see nice things. | ||
| Okay, well, let's add up all those experiences, and how cool are they in comparison to Looking out your window. | ||
| I'll one-up you. | ||
| Yeah, and having a fucking spectacular 30-story view. | ||
| Think if you had this studio up there. | ||
| Another level. | ||
| Now you're with your boys. | ||
| Well, I was thinking about renting a place in downtown. | ||
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No, just men. | |
| Oh, sorry. | ||
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Just men. | |
| Sorry. | ||
| Sluts get in the way. | ||
| Isn't that what people, when you think about the guy who's balling with lots of money and he's got that crazy crib, what you really think, let's be honest, all of us are thinking, oh, it's amazing, good food, champagne. | ||
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Sluts. | |
| For days. | ||
| I mean, that's what most people are like. | ||
| That guy's got to be banging like, you know, I don't know, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| That's misogynistic. | ||
| Wow, bro. | ||
| I'm sorry, dude. | ||
|
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Women's month? | |
| You need to pull that shit during women's month? | ||
| Guys, guys, sorry. | ||
| Is it women's month or do they get a day? | ||
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I'm not saying. | |
| I'm just saying that's what other people think. | ||
| Dan Bilzerian. | ||
| That's how he's rolling. | ||
| Yeah, that's what you think. | ||
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Hey, that's someone's daughter bending over for sushi right now. | |
| Look at that shit. | ||
| Come on, look at that. | ||
|
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Look at that bitch bending over in a jeep string. | |
| He's out of control. | ||
| No, he's totally in control. | ||
| No, I mean, it's just, that's what I mean. | ||
| That's where you spend your money. | ||
|
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Dude, hashtag International Women's Day, be thankful? | |
| What's wrong with that, dude? | ||
| He's having fun. | ||
|
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Yeah, he's healthy. | |
| You're damn right he is. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| No regrets there. | ||
| Oh, Jean Volante's starting to pour it on here. | ||
| He's stepping in with that jab. | ||
| And Shogun keeps throwing that looping overhand right. | ||
| It's finding a home a little bit. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
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Yeah, sometimes. | |
| It clipped him on the temple and dropped him. | ||
| There's Mario Yamazaki. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| You know, that's the same overhand right that he knocked out Lyoto with. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| He caught him over the top. | ||
| He just tagged him. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| He tagged him with that right hand. | ||
| Vellante looks a little... | ||
| Well, I mean, they've been banging, so he should be a little fatigued. | ||
| They're both a little fatigued. | ||
| Vellante does not quit, though. | ||
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He looks bigger. | |
| Vellante looks way bigger. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's been doing really well with that jab. | ||
| Look at that counter of that right hand over the top right there. | ||
| That was clean. | ||
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And then Shogun's hooks are landing too when he puts it together. | |
| He's just throwing one shot there now. | ||
|
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When he puts two together, they land. | |
| Two to three land for him. | ||
| I'm shocked at how much these guys have abandoned their kicks. | ||
| Shocked. | ||
| Has there been one? | ||
| Yeah, there's been a few. | ||
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Early? | |
| They're kind of exchanging blows too, aren't they? | ||
| They're just standing in this... | ||
| We call this a slobber knocker right now. | ||
| But I mean... | ||
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Oh! | |
| Oh! | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Somebody's gone. | ||
| Oh shit, Shogun's wobbled a little bit. | ||
| He cracked him. | ||
| But it's just like these guys are... | ||
| They're heavy on their legs. | ||
| If somebody uncorked a solid leg kick there... | ||
| Isn't that Shogun's thing? | ||
| Can't he... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, he can kick the fuck out of you. | ||
| Look at Volante with the takedown. | ||
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Not up in there. | |
| How dare you. | ||
| That's where he has Soonga's on, son. | ||
| Don't bring that shit into my cage. | ||
| Don't ever bring that shit into my cage. | ||
| Brian, you are back in the movie again. | ||
| Dude, I'm just saying. | ||
| It's what I say. | ||
| It's what I fucking say. | ||
| You feel it. | ||
| You feel it right now. | ||
| Don't bring that shit into my cage. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Right hand over the top. | ||
| You wobbled him with that. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Oh, shit, son. | ||
| He slipped. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah, but he's in trouble, though. | ||
| He's in trouble. | ||
| His legs are a little wobbly. | ||
| Oh, he got right back up. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Takes some space. | ||
| He's just tired. | ||
| He's tough as shit. | ||
| This is a tough-ass fight. | ||
| And this is only the second round, kids. | ||
| This pace is nuts, man. | ||
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Especially the blows. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, he's doing that Shogun thing. | ||
| Spreading of the hands. | ||
| He's feeling it, son. | ||
| Opening it. | ||
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Opening it. | |
| Get ready for the shoot box old-school combo. | ||
| Shoot the box. | ||
| Shoot the box. | ||
| See, when you watch Shogun fight, you just want to go, just think of how many wars this guy's been in in the gym. | ||
| Think of how many wars this guy's been in in the ring and then in the cage. | ||
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And still doing the damn thing. | |
| Still doing it. | ||
| And you just want to fucking pluck his uniform. | ||
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Still saying. | |
| Hey, man. | ||
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A little respect, sir. | |
| Sir to my left, a little respect. | ||
| Just an absolute warrior. | ||
| A warrior. | ||
| That's how I would describe him. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Like, he's just doing the damn thing. | |
| Loves to fight. | ||
| Again, with that overhand ride, he keeps timing that well. | ||
| He's starting to find openings, too. | ||
| I think a lot of that is also going to the body enough. | ||
| There's a kick for you. | ||
| Yeah, a little baby one. | ||
| A little head movement, a little movement. | ||
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Man, I'm not mad at Shogun. | |
| Sweep that fucking leg. | ||
| He looks really good. | ||
|
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I mean, he's taking some shots, but... | |
| And Vellante's no joke, man. | ||
|
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Not at all, man. | |
| See, he keeps going to that body. | ||
| I like how he's going to the body and mixing it up. | ||
| You guys ever read that book, Shogun? | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I don't think it's the same thing. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Remember his brother, Ninja? | ||
| He retired from concussions. | ||
| He had some brain injuries. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He had to get, like, surgery. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Oh, we dinged him with that right hand. | ||
| Dude, his feet are wobbly. | ||
| Dude, think about... | ||
| Suddenly, Shogun looks bigger. | ||
| Think about Villiante's freaking background, too. | ||
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He's middle linebacker at Hofstra, so there has to be some sort of brain damage, you'd think. | |
| Ding! | ||
| Or he's one of those dudes where it's no effect, you know? | ||
| He's just one of those dudes where it... | ||
| Those dudes don't exist. | ||
| Remember that Samoan guy who shot himself? | ||
| What was his name? | ||
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Junior Seau. | |
| Junior Seau? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Junior Seau. | ||
| His favorite player. | ||
| That guy is like... | ||
| No one's more durable than Samoans. | ||
| Played 15 years. | ||
| They're like the most durable human beings on the planet. | ||
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You're right. | |
| And everybody gets it in the long run. | ||
| Mark Hunt saying, I beg to differ. | ||
| Yeah, he's not really, though. | ||
| That last fight. | ||
| Have you ever seen him go flatline like that? | ||
| Only in the Melvin Manhoff fight. | ||
| Remember Melvin caught him with a right hand coming in? | ||
| Melvin Manhoff fought him? | ||
| Knocked him out. | ||
| He is smaller than him. | ||
| Way smaller. | ||
| Melvin was 180. Oh my god, I remember that. | ||
| Mark Hunt was 260. Oh my god! | ||
| And Melvin KO'd him with one punch coming in. | ||
| K1? K1. Wow. | ||
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Straight power speed. | |
| Was it K1 or Pride? | ||
| Was it Pride? | ||
| I feel like it was K1. It was definitely an MMA fight. | ||
| It wasn't a kickboxing fight, but it might have been Pride. | ||
| But either way, see if you can find that, Jamie, what it is. | ||
| Oh, he murked. | ||
| Oh, it's Pride. | ||
| That's Pride, bro. | ||
| No, it's K1 Dynamite. | ||
| Oh, that's what it is. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Watch this, Brian, because this is crazy. | ||
| Because Melvin is, I mean, at the most... | ||
| At the most, he's 200 pounds, but I don't think he is. | ||
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Dude, he is not too hundo. | |
| I think he's 190. Jack as fuck. | ||
| Yeah, well, he fought Robbie Lawler at 85 in Strikeforce, which means he's probably a little heavier than that and losing weight to get to 85. Young Mark Hunt. | ||
| So let's say he's 95. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Mark Hunt is at least 60 pounds heavier than him. | ||
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Maybe more. | |
| Look at that! | ||
| Look at the difference. | ||
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That's some Japanese shit, folks. | |
| And it happens in the first round. | ||
| He's got big gloves on. | ||
| Just a few seconds in. | ||
| Man, oh. | ||
| No, those are Pride gloves. | ||
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Yeah, those are Pride gloves. | |
| Same as the K1 gloves. | ||
| They were just different. | ||
| They looked like they were more padded than they were. | ||
| Look how fast, man. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom, boom! | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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Caught him coming in. | |
| Look at that. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Dude, I would say the Wolverine one was worse because it's flatlined. | ||
| It was. | ||
| Face first. | ||
| That guy never fought in the UFC. Oh! | ||
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Melvin never fought in the UFC. Shogun just fucking put the brakes on us. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, he went to the body, too. | ||
| Shogun put the brakes on her. | ||
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Dude, dude. | |
| Oh, there go the shakes. | ||
| Shogun's not fucking around, everybody. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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Shoot the box. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| There's only so much you can take. | ||
| Dude, you see Shogun going. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Boom. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| We were watching an old fight while a new one was going on. | ||
| I got double on knockout on knockout there. | ||
| Man, Vellante's a fucking warrior, but Shogun's too much. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| God. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
|
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Fucking Shogun. | |
| Fucking Shogun. | ||
| Now, if Shogun decides to go out now after that, respect. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Yeah, Brazilians don't do that. | ||
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Name of Brazilians. | |
| Respect always. | ||
| No, he goes out, goes back to Ryzen. | ||
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He revives his career with the TRT. He's rising in top five after this. | |
| I think that's a nice place for older MMA fighters to go to. | ||
| Well, it would be nice if there was a place like Pride was in its glory days. | ||
| And if it's rising, so be it. | ||
| There's that Russian league. | ||
| Oh, look how he clipped him. | ||
| He caught him coming and clipped him right in the jaw. | ||
| See how he went to the body, too. | ||
| I like how he went to the body. | ||
| How about his cardio? | ||
| How does the ability to just pour it on like that? | ||
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Boom! | |
| That's smelling blood in the water. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh, this is ruthless. | ||
| That is a fucking phenomenal combination. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| In the third round, tired from a war. | ||
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But look how he doesn't rush. | |
| Look at this. | ||
| He just clipped him with that right hand. | ||
| I like how he's going to the body too, man. | ||
| Look at how he digs the body there. | ||
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I like how he doesn't rush in here. | |
| How he keeps the distance so he maximum power here. | ||
|
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Oh, man. | |
| So good. | ||
| So good. | ||
| That's so incredible. | ||
|
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Great win for Shogun. | |
| Great win. | ||
| Great win. | ||
| Huge win. | ||
|
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Huge. | |
| It makes me feel good when he wins for some reason. | ||
| Do you know how crazy it must have been in Brazil to hear that roar? | ||
| It must have went crazy when he won. | ||
| He got a Vitor and fucking pulls it off. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I'm so glad I don't know what happened. | ||
|
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Me neither. | |
| I don't have a clue. | ||
| What does Pua mean? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Something good. | ||
| Yeah, he's never had a great body. | ||
| Pua means like, fuck. | ||
| He's got a fucking man body. | ||
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He's a dime piece. | |
| He's got a man's body. | ||
| In Brazil. | ||
| Real lady puller. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| He's a man. | ||
| Well, he's also a sporting legend over there. | ||
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Yeah, he's like Michael Jordan in the streets of Chicago over there. | |
| Probably not that much. | ||
| Dude, him and Vitor and Anderson. | ||
|
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Lyoto was saying one of the reasons why he lives here is because back there, they can't even go out to eat, man. | |
| Really? | ||
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Like, he can't do anything. | |
| Really? | ||
| It's one of the reasons I live here. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| Like, he goes back all the time, you know, but for, like, Vitor, Anderson, Lyoto, Shogun, and Big Nog, Think about bigger stars. | ||
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I mean, it's the Brazilian soccer team, but that's their shit, man. | |
| Brazil fighting with peanut butter and jelly, son. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| Here, we're like, eh, whatever. | ||
| I bet Hoist. | ||
| I bet Hoist goes over there. | ||
| It's probably preposterous. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, Gracie, right? | ||
| Probably can't even move. | ||
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Yeah, probably can't. | |
| Fucking Tim Tebow style. | ||
| Can't go anywhere. | ||
| There's a lot of fun movies coming out, man. | ||
| This life one. | ||
| Looks kind of interesting. | ||
| That new Alien. | ||
| You see the trailer for it that they released? | ||
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I can't wait for that. | |
| It looks terrifying. | ||
| Another one? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Great. | ||
| All those movies were amazing. | ||
| Does it have anything to do with the other ones? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's about before. | ||
| It's about before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know how they pitched that movie? | ||
| Wasn't Prometheus kind of like that? | ||
| It's after Prometheus. | ||
| I love Prometheus. | ||
| It's after Prometheus before the more recent one. | ||
| Yeah, I like Prometheus. | ||
| I liked it. | ||
| So Prometheus has something to do with Alien. | ||
| Yes, that's the start. | ||
| It's all connected. | ||
| The idea is that big guy in Prometheus, those weird alien people looking things, those were aliens from another planet. | ||
| They got jacked by the alien alien first. | ||
| One thing I like about Prometheus is when that gigantic starship spaceship crashes on top of that chick and she's like, no, she crawls out from underneath. | ||
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Well, something protected her. | |
| It's the movie. | ||
| A little hole. | ||
| Super, super important that they follow the rules of physics. | ||
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Oh, but the giant alien didn't fucking have anything to do with it. | |
| You know what they say? | ||
| The legend has it how they sold that alien in the room. | ||
| When they walked in, the producers went, so what's your pitch? | ||
| And they went, Jaws in Space. | ||
| You interested? | ||
| They're like, yes we are. | ||
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Here you go. | |
| That'll do it, man. | ||
| Well, it's interesting also that That H.R. Geiger guy, that artist, sort of revolutionized what we thought horror monsters would be. | ||
| He created something that was so entirely different than any other alien landscape before and very dark and evil and satanic in some sort of a weird way. | ||
| And also that alien itself was so much different than any other idea. | ||
| We'd always had this idea of these super intelligent things from other planets. | ||
| Someone was like, no... | ||
| How about a giant bug thing that just eats everything it can find and grows like that? | ||
| And plants its egg in your body. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you guys watch Predator vs. | ||
| Alien? | ||
| You guys into that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Fuck that noise. | ||
| As soon as they start doing that. | ||
| Single greatest movie of all time. | ||
| Sorry, I said it. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| I'm going to go pee out of my huge shake and I'll be right back. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
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I don't like when they mix them. | |
| I love Predator, though. | ||
| They should have Predator vs. | ||
| Fast and the Furious. | ||
| All those shitheads racing their cars down residential roads. | ||
| I'll get murked by Predator. | ||
| I'd pay for that. | ||
| I watched one of those Fast and the Furious the other day, and we were like, how many of them were there? | ||
| And then we looked it up. | ||
| There was ten! | ||
| Ten of those stupid fucking movies. | ||
| There was ten! | ||
| They're making a bunch of them. | ||
| Ten movies! | ||
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They're on the eighth one right now. | |
| What? | ||
|
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They're only on the eighth one right now. | |
| Come on. | ||
|
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They're doing more, though. | |
| Fate right now. | ||
| F8 is coming. | ||
| Why did it say 10 when I Googled it? | ||
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Well, they might be under contract with 10. They're doing more, Joe. | |
| Is that what it is? | ||
| You know they're redoing Predator without Arnold. | ||
| First of all, how can you just pull that out? | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| Why would you have that information? | ||
| There's a big giant billboard on my way here, like that Hollywood and whatever, Franklin or something. | ||
| I don't get down with those action movies, man. | ||
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Do nothing for me. | |
| It says there are ten Fast and the Furious movies. | ||
| In the works, I'm contracted. | ||
| Dude, who's going to play Arnold in The New Predator? | ||
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Enjoy that one. | |
| That's a good question. | ||
| Or do you know they're remaking Scarface? | ||
| Who's going to play fucking Tony Montana? | ||
| They are remaking Scarface. | ||
| Vin Diesel confirms Fast and Furious 8, 9, and 10. That's what it is. | ||
|
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Just pushed Avatar back a whole other year. | |
| Ah! | ||
| Fuck, Jamie? | ||
|
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Yeah, sorry. | |
| Why? | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| It's something yesterday. | ||
| James Cameron probably drowned somebody accidentally. | ||
|
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Dude! | |
| One of his crazy-ass fucking submarines. | ||
|
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God damn it. | |
| I mean, how are you going to release Avatar 2 fucking 15 years later? | ||
| It's too long. | ||
| It's supposed to be sick, though. | ||
| That's like the Entourage fucking movie. | ||
| It's way too long. | ||
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You fucked up. | |
| No, don't compare those two, you son of a bitch. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Son of a bitch. | ||
| Avatar 2, oh my god. | ||
| Hey, there's an Avatar ride at Universal. | ||
| When was it supposed to come out, Jamie? | ||
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2018. When is it supposed to come out this year? | |
| It's supposed to come out next year, but they pushed it back farther. | ||
| When is it going to arrive? | ||
| I loved Avatar. | ||
| Maybe 2019. Wow, so it will be 10 years. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Avatar? | ||
| It was ten years ago? | ||
| No, look what he says, though, son. | ||
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We're not making Avatar 2. We're making Avatar 2, 3, 4, and 5. Yeah, they're making all of them. | |
| He just finished the story. | ||
| It's an epic undertaking, director says, a franchise around 2009 blockbuster. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, so they're going to do them all together. | ||
| I forgive them. | ||
| And so they're going to have one, they're going to release another one, and then another one afterwards. | ||
| I'm waiting. | ||
| But everybody I know criticized that movie, and I loved it. | ||
| Did you not love it? | ||
| You talked to assholes. | ||
| Yeah, we loved that movie. | ||
| I thought it was amazing, right? | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| Loved it. | ||
| Game changer. | ||
| I was like, cliche! | ||
|
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Well, it's Ferngully. | |
| It's Pocahontas. | ||
| It's Pocahontas. | ||
|
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It's Ferngully. | |
| Amazing. | ||
| It's that, too. | ||
| It's a classic story. | ||
| Well, you know, there's only so many fucking real archetypal stories of heroes. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's beautiful. | ||
| Vitor Belfort, Kelvin Gaslam. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Here's my take on this. | ||
| I think Kelvin's gas tank is fucking hugely superior. | ||
| But if Vitor can swarm him in the first round, he's been known to be able to put anybody on Queer Street. | ||
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Yeah, Vitor has one round to get it done. | |
| But I'm telling you, Kelvin Gastelum takes a punch about as good as any fucking human being alive. | ||
| His jaw is amazing. | ||
| You never see Kelvin get hurt. | ||
| I mean, he's a tank. | ||
| He's an excellent wrestler, and he knows how to win, man. | ||
| He went to win on The Ultimate Fighter, but nobody sort of thought that he was going to be winning that show. | ||
| Everybody's looking to Uriah Hall. | ||
| He tuned up Tim Kennedy. | ||
| I mean, he tuned him up, man. | ||
| That was an insane fight. | ||
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Insane fight. | |
| Tim was making us safe for democracy, so... | ||
| Well, you know what it is? | ||
| Tim trained for two different fights and went through two camps. | ||
| And I think he was really overtrained. | ||
|
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Overtrained, yeah. | |
| And he looked like he wasn't recovering well in that fight. | ||
|
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I think he also has a lot of other options. | |
| You know, he's kind of half in, half out. | ||
| Maybe, but I don't think that's what did him in. | ||
| I think what did him in is his cardio. | ||
| And he's known for his cardio. | ||
| So I think what happened was... | ||
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The weight cut? | |
| No, I don't even think it's the weight cut as much as it's overtraining. | ||
| His training partners think that it's overtraining. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| But it's also Kelvin Gastelum. | ||
| I mean, Kelvin might have got him even if he had everything going for him. | ||
| Because Tim is a thick, solid, super strong grappler. | ||
| But kind of plodding on the feet. | ||
| He doesn't throw anything with lightning-fast precision. | ||
| But Kelvin, the punches come like lightning, man. | ||
| And he doesn't load up on his punches. | ||
| He's constantly moving and constantly moving in and out with his footwork. | ||
| He's getting better fast. | ||
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You see improvements fight after fight. | |
| I was never really on the Kelvin train, and then after that one, I was like, God damn, he's gonna be in trouble, especially at 85. I think the top five is gonna be a real challenge for him, but outside that, he's a monster. | ||
| Dude, when they show the TRT... I was going to say, the difference between him and TRT is literally so night and day, it's ridiculous. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
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So scary. | |
| But he knocked out Dan Henderson in that fight. | ||
| The last one, there was no TRT. Yeah, Chris Weidman kind of bummed me out. | ||
| Well, how about Musashi? | ||
| Musashi beat the fuck out of him, too. | ||
| Musashi went through the first round, survived the storm, said what he was going to do. | ||
| He said, I'm going to take him in the first round, and I'm going to knock him out. | ||
| He took him out of the first round. | ||
| This is going to be exciting. | ||
| Took him into the second and just wore his ass out. | ||
| Vitor just can't sustain. | ||
| Look at Vitor. | ||
| That's Kelvin there. | ||
| No, Victor. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I said Victor. | ||
| I meant Victor. | ||
| I'll tell you what, I like Kelvin with his confidence. | ||
| Yeah, he has zero fear. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| One of the nicest guys on the planet. | ||
| Well spoken. | ||
| And has no fear. | ||
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Trains his ass off. | |
| I heard he enjoys marijuana. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| There's no need to discuss this further. | ||
| Good hair. | ||
| He does like natural medicines. | ||
| Oh, that's important. | ||
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That's a big time. | |
| Better in pain, Josh. | ||
| He does like natural medicines. | ||
| I'm a big fan. | ||
| Big fan. | ||
| Look at Victor, dancing in the background. | ||
| Who is Victor? | ||
| Victor Davila. | ||
| Is that his? | ||
| He's one of the 10th Planet Black Bulls. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Co-owner at EBI. And he does my job for the UFC in Spanish. | ||
| They let him have this night off. | ||
| Do they? | ||
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Oh, that's cool. | |
| Beautiful. | ||
| So he could do this? | ||
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And he trains at a Kings, too, full-time now? | |
| Kelvin? | ||
| He's listening to a song in his head over there. | ||
| And he lives with Master Vic. | ||
| They live again. | ||
| They're like best friends now. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Where do they live? | ||
| Not specifically. | ||
| Huntington Beach. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's a good spot if you're going to be a fighter. | ||
| Yeah, it really is. | ||
| Something about Orange County, man, especially down the beach area, like Huntington Beach in particular, man, there's a lot of great gyms down there. | ||
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There's so many gyms down there, especially jiu-jitsu. | |
| There's just all sorts of things going on down there. | ||
| Well, L.A. in particular, man. | ||
| I mean, is there another place that's more of a hotbed for martial arts, like on the level that this place is? | ||
| Like New York and L.A. are the two. | ||
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See, I'd say New York and Florida. | |
| Florida's giant. | ||
| What LA doesn't have is it doesn't have an American top team where you have one wealthy guy who funds this gigantic organization. | ||
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No, not in LA. Northern Cali does, though, with AK and then Team Alpha, man. | |
| Yeah, yeah, for sure. | ||
| But Dan Lambert, what he's done down there in Southern Florida, something special. | ||
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It is special. | |
| And they've been around for a while, too. | ||
| And Dan Lambert's dumped a lot of cash into that. | ||
| A lot of cash. | ||
| Smart guy, man. | ||
| Loves MMA. Loves it. | ||
| I mean, he was like, he's what you would really want. | ||
| A knowledgeable guy. | ||
| For sure, pull that crack up. | ||
| See a little booty crack there? | ||
| I'm distracted by his legs. | ||
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Pull it up. | |
| Pull it up. | ||
| Ooh, powerful Vitor Kelly. | ||
| Guys, this is impressive. | ||
| New stuff. | ||
| Every fight, he's got something new. | ||
| Who's this? | ||
| Kelvin throwing spinning kicks, throwing crazy shit on the ground. | ||
| On the ground, he's very underrated. | ||
| He's 10th planet guy, too. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| Brown belt. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| What Calvin has that really impressed the shit out of me, too, is his footwork. | ||
| His movement is so light on his feet. | ||
| He leaps in and pops that jab. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
|
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Vitor. | |
| He's straight left. | ||
| Vitor's looking good, man. | ||
|
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I feel like Calvin and Tony Ferguson have that same kind of mentality. | |
| Just that frickin' no fear. | ||
| Mexicans. | ||
| They know how to have fun. | ||
| They're fearless. | ||
| They know how to have fun in the ring. | ||
| They look like they want to be in there. | ||
| Oh, they love it. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| What percentage of Mexican is Tony Ferguson? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's 100% but the last name is Ferguson. | ||
| His stepdad. | ||
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Oh. | |
| He's full of Mexican. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| He's a regular Mexican dude with a white stepdad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| A little bit of white flavor on him. | ||
| I'm liking the look in Vitor's eyes. | ||
| I'm liking the crease in his neck. | ||
| I'm feeling like he's coming in with more than dad bod. | ||
| That's all I'm going to say. | ||
| Well, you had dad bod at the weigh-in. | ||
| How would that be possible? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Didn't see the weigh-in. | ||
| Didn't see the weigh-in. | ||
| But that was only 24 hours before this. | ||
| Didn't, sir. | ||
| Didn't see it. | ||
| Well, then why are you talking? | ||
| Because a lot of things can change in 24 fucking hours. | ||
| What can change? | ||
| Tell me about rehydration in the body. | ||
| Well, he looks intense. | ||
| Yeah, he does look fucking intense, which is my point. | ||
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Fortaleza. | |
| Strong jaw. | ||
| Haven't seen his jaw that looked that strong in a long time. | ||
|
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I love Vitor, man. | |
| Why don't you marry him? | ||
| You guys don't know what happens? | ||
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You don't know what happens? | |
| You have no idea. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I don't know a single thing. | ||
| I stayed off Twitter. | ||
| I do not know. | ||
| I posted, I stayed off. | ||
| Do not tell me. | ||
| I'm so proud of myself. | ||
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Me too. | |
| This is the first time I've ever watched a fight card without having any idea what was going to happen in any of the fights. | ||
| It's because there's more boxing on. | ||
| He didn't look bad yesterday. | ||
| By the way, that's more than dad bod, dude. | ||
| He definitely looks better than he looked against Wyman. | ||
| Yes, he does. | ||
| He definitely looks better than he looked against Wyman. | ||
| More aerodynamic. | ||
| Way more aerodynamic. | ||
| Yeah, dude, look at him right there. | ||
| That definitely looks better. | ||
| Like in this right here, we're seeing him rehydrated. | ||
| He looks better than he looked against Weidman. | ||
| Fuck yeah, he does. | ||
| When he went into the room against Weidman, into the octagon rather, like you could see his loose skin jiggling around while he was jumping up around. | ||
| Yeah, that was rough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on, man, let's go. | ||
| He looks not bad there. | ||
| He looks aggressive as shit. | ||
| He looks like a powerful older man. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Well, that's what he is. | ||
| Whereas when he was on TRT, he looked like a science project. | ||
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He looked like a mutant. | |
| Because that's what he was. | ||
| He's a fucking science project. | ||
| How old is he now, 38? | ||
| He's 39 or 40. He's been fighting for 20 years. | ||
| Brian, pass some of that sweet, sweet wine this way. | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
| What's up with that natural medicines? | ||
| I got some of that. | ||
| I got a break. | ||
| Give Eddie a little more. | ||
| Jamie, remind me. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Couple guys hanging out. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm not doing nothing. | ||
| Eddie, Eddie, I got you. | ||
| Don't I have you every time? | ||
| I won't present conspiracy. | ||
| Bro, I got you. | ||
| Let's definitely not talk over each other and definitely not give Eddie any more questions. | ||
| I'm giving him a taste of wine. | ||
| Eddie's smart, man. | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| Here we go, folks. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Let me give my boy some wine. | ||
| Vitor Belford. | ||
| Fuck yeah, I'm excited about this. | ||
| I'm giving him that much. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm giving him an inch of wine! | ||
| Ah, you're such a Nazi. | ||
| You fucking winehouse. | ||
| He knows. | ||
| Eddie knows. | ||
| He doesn't want to go crazy at Pizzagate. | ||
| He doesn't want to do it on you. | ||
| Pizzagate's over. | ||
| We'll die with that shit. | ||
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Pizzagate, that's in the past. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Main event, folks. | ||
| It's just kids. | ||
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Who cares? | |
| You're driving me to the comedy store, you know that, right? | ||
| Am I? I don't have my car. | ||
|
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Alright. | |
| Well, that'll be a reason. | ||
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Put your feet up on my car, I'm gonna pound your dick in. | |
| Why don't you have your car, Brian? | ||
| Well, I didn't know we were doing the podcast before. | ||
| I called him on just by coincidence. | ||
| It's not like you've been talking about it for days. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| No, 5.30. | ||
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We only posted this morning. | |
| Whatever. | ||
| We only decided on Wednesday. | ||
| I think he liked our pictures. | ||
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You comment on mine can't wait. | |
| I don't think I've ever liked the picture. | ||
| Well, that's not good. | ||
| Why are we going to like yours now? | ||
| No, I don't mean it in a personal way. | ||
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You're just bad on social media. | |
| Yeah, I just don't read a lot of... | ||
| That's probably good, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Calvin looks so calm. | ||
| You know who's cool as shit, too? | ||
| Rafael Cordero. | ||
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Cool as shit. | |
| He's the nicest guy. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He's so nice. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| I love it when guys that are involved in this sport, such a violent sport, can be like sweethearts. | ||
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There's not a lot of dick. | |
| Don't you think it's because they've been humbled like everybody who's really gotten in the sport has been knocked out, has been humbled? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Isn't it impossible to be cocky? | ||
| Duke Rufus, super cool. | ||
| The nicest guy. | ||
| Even Conor McGregor, as cocky as he seems, when he loses or wins, he's always gracious. | ||
| Gary Garbrandt. | ||
| I met him for the first time last weekend. | ||
| Cody Garbrandt? | ||
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Cody. | |
| What did I say? | ||
| Gary. | ||
| What the fuck is Gary? | ||
| I'm going to stay silent. | ||
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I don't know Gary. | |
| Super nice guy as well. | ||
| That guy, after he did that, he had that kid with him and stuff, that guy can do no wrong. | ||
| Cody Garbrandt? | ||
| He's your next superstar, man. | ||
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They need to invest some fucking PR in that kid. | |
| He just shot a commercial, but yeah, he's the real deal. | ||
| He looks like a shit starter, you know what I mean? | ||
| But he's not. | ||
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He has the skills to back it up, dresses well, speaks well, world champion, beat Dominic Cruz. | |
| I know it's interesting when you see him in that full suit and you see all the neck tattoos, you're like, hmm, this is interesting what he's doing here. | ||
| He's like polishing up a murderer. | ||
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When he's inside that octagon, dude, he's murking people. | |
| It's like painting your pitbull's toenails. | ||
| Vitor's got some fans in Brazil, huh? | ||
| Vitor? | ||
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Fuck, man. | |
| Oh, they go crazy for him. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Calvin looks so calm. | ||
| No one is more calm in there than Calvin. | ||
| I think part of the reason is because he takes such a good shot. | ||
| I mean, obviously he's really good and he's just confident, period, but Calvin's got... | ||
| that chin is fucking iron. | ||
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Yeah, that has to help you, right? | |
| Because you know you can make a little mistake and still get away with it. | ||
| You can get away with it. | ||
| That's Chuck in his prime. | ||
| In Chuck's prime, one of his biggest assets was his chin. | ||
| Chuck's chin was phenomenal. | ||
| See, now watch how good Calvin moves on his feet. | ||
| He's real light. | ||
| He's in and outs. | ||
| Look how much distance he covers forward and back. | ||
| Just to let you know, he's nowhere near you. | ||
| He's kind of close, but then he's nowhere near you. | ||
| Oh, he can switch it up, man. | ||
| That's a pain in the ass. | ||
| He's into being as unorthodox as possible. | ||
| He's into that. | ||
| It's important because from the southpaw position, he shuts down that high kick. | ||
| It's much harder for Vito, so Vito has to kick off of that left. | ||
| Excuse me, off the right. | ||
| That was a little snap kick to the chin. | ||
| Nice shorts, Vito. | ||
| It's going old school. | ||
| Man, I'm not mad at it. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Almost wheel kick. | ||
| Don't get caught with one of those. | ||
| Everybody calm down. | ||
| Stay calm. | ||
| He's got some hands. | ||
| He's still got the speed. | ||
| Speed doesn't go when you're 38, 40, when you're Vitor, guys. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Heavy shit being thrown. | ||
| He's feeling very explosive. | ||
| Heavy shit. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Vitor's fastest. | ||
| Still. | ||
| And he's always moved amazing. | ||
| I mean, Vitor's about as pro as you can do. | ||
| The thing about Vitor, though, is that he can't do this for every round. | ||
| He's got five rounds. | ||
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He has five minutes a few. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a five-round main event. | ||
| Oh, beautiful head movement. | ||
| He's not really going... | ||
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Oh! | |
| Kelvin got clipped there a little bit. | ||
| I love the way Kelvin raises his hands. | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you, man. | ||
| Kelvin will start... | ||
| Ooh, good kick to the body there by Vitor. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Yikes. | ||
| Calvin would be able to pour it on when Vitor starts to wilt, and that's when it's going to get interesting. | ||
| What if Calvin can try and grapple, too, at all? | ||
| And the thing about Vitor, too, is he's never really... | ||
| Except for the rumble fight. | ||
| The rumble fight, he actually did come back from behind, right? | ||
| He was losing that fight. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Easy with those knees. | ||
| He was losing that... | ||
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Oh, he's hurt. | |
| That straight left landed, son. | ||
| He's hurt. | ||
| It was that right hand there that hurt him. | ||
| He's really hurt. | ||
| His head got snapped back. | ||
| Look at his nose, son. | ||
| He throws a mean straight left. | ||
| See, even this Kelvin compared to Tim Kenny Kelvin, different animal. | ||
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Looks even better. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He's so good, and he's so young. | ||
| And he's been lifting, too, to move into 185. Damn, that jab. | ||
| His hands are smooth, man. | ||
| And he fires jabs like his body can be at off angles. | ||
| Yeah, like his distance. | ||
| Especially, he's not a long guy. | ||
| Ooh, no. | ||
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But he uses... | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Tried the wheel kick again. | ||
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Oh, way to get out of there. | |
| Boom! | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, that's over. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
|
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Oh, that's over. | |
| Stop the fight, son. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
|
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Goddamn. | |
| Is it Mario? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
|
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Hold on. | |
| He's kicking up. | ||
|
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Is it Mario? | |
| Dude, they could've easily... | ||
| Oh, they could've easily stuffed that light. | ||
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Oh, Kelvin, you're gonna earn this. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| You're gonna earn this. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| This is Brazil, guys. | ||
| This is fucking Brazil. | ||
| Relax. | ||
| Everybody calm down. | ||
| Oh, Armstrong, he loves... | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh, that's his shit right there. | ||
| It's the wrong side, though. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| He can make it... | ||
| Against the cage, it's gonna be tough, man. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
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There's no room. | |
| Wrong side. | ||
| You stay in the mount. | ||
| You don't even need to get on the side. | ||
| That's old school shit. | ||
| You can't move, though, Eddie, with the cage, right? | ||
| Look at Vitor getting up. | ||
| Look at Vitor. | ||
| Oh my god, Vitor. | ||
| Vitor back up. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Oh, you gotta give it up. | ||
| He survived. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
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Oh, it's Big John's the ref. | |
| Big John McCarthy. | ||
| Way to go. | ||
| Oh, look at this! | ||
| Big John made it happen. | ||
| You kidding me right now? | ||
| He's wobbly. | ||
| He's wobbly. | ||
| But he did throw some shit right there. | ||
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Yeah, he did. | |
| And a great underhook. | ||
| He's still dangerous. | ||
| Vitor's still dangerous. | ||
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Fuck yes. | |
| But he's not on steady legs. | ||
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That straight left comes down the pipe, though. | |
| Oh! | ||
| He tagged him. | ||
| He tagged him with that jab. | ||
| His jab is so crisp. | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| Calvin's jab is so nasty. | ||
| And he throws that jab right hook. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| His fucking hands, man. | ||
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Calvin's hands are fast as fuck. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| He threw two one-twos in a row. | ||
| He went, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. | ||
| And the first one was barely off. | ||
| He covers a lot of ground with those lefts. | ||
| It's weird because he doesn't have a long reach, but he keeps great distance. | ||
| He has wide-ass shoulders. | ||
| I think if you measure his shoulders... | ||
| I think he's pretty long. | ||
| Now, let's talk about this, because Calvin had been talking about going on a 170. And you look at how good he looked in a Tim Kennedy fight, and then looked even fucking better against Vitor. | ||
| I like him at 85. Stop depleting himself. | ||
| At 185, he looks like a fucking world champion. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
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See that miss? | |
| Boom! | ||
| Oh, look at that left! | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| Bang! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Look at the distance. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
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Joe, here's the argument for 70, though. | |
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| He went to, what, a split decision with Woodley? | ||
| So what? | ||
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Boom. | |
| Woodley's the champ. | ||
| Yeah, but you know why he went to a split decision? | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Because he was depleting his body. | ||
| When does that happen? | ||
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I hate seeing it. | |
| When does that happen? | ||
| I hate seeing somebody get hit like that. | ||
| One, two, one, two. | ||
| One, two. | ||
| That first one was barely off. | ||
| Then he readjusted and knocked him out. | ||
| Straight down the pipe. | ||
| Good job, John McCarthy. | ||
| Good job all the way around, too. | ||
| Yeah, good job not stopping it and then stopping it when it was over. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| Hands down, Big John's the best. | ||
| Fucking amazing. | ||
| How about Calvin? | ||
| What a fucking renaissance. | ||
| He's getting better every fight, man. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| What do you do next with him? | ||
| What can you do? | ||
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If you're his coach, what would you do next with him? | |
| Title shot. | ||
| What can you do? | ||
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Oh, Jesus Christ. | |
| Yeah, you're his coach. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What can you do? | ||
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Oh, so he jumps over Yoel Romero, Jaco, Luke Rockhold. | |
| But here's the question. | ||
| Here's the question. | ||
| He's putting people away. | ||
| But hold on. | ||
| If you're making this big GSP, Michael Bisping's super fight, do you make Yoel Romero Versus this motherfucker. | ||
| No, no! | ||
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No, you don't do this yet. | |
| I'm the undercard. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Brandon, what do you have to say? | ||
| Joe's got a mischievous mind right now. | ||
| For the interim title! | ||
| Another interim title! | ||
| Let's do it! | ||
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You get a belt! | |
| You get a belt! | ||
| He's a troublemaker! | ||
| What do you say about that? | ||
| No, it's too much for Calvin. | ||
| We take the Oprah Winfrey approach. | ||
| Yo Romero's the worst matchup possible for him right now. | ||
| Just because of his wrestling? | ||
| Yeah, not yet, man. | ||
| That's an older veto. | ||
| Let's not get crazy. | ||
| He beat Tim Kenney that one foot out. | ||
| Yo Romero's the same age. | ||
| Y'all vs. | ||
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Vitor? | |
| Yeah, a little different. | ||
| They're a little different, sir. | ||
| A little bit different. | ||
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The Golden Snitch comes after one, he's good. | |
| The other, we don't know. | ||
| I would like Kelvin to fight a guy, like I think a great fight, obviously you'd have to beat Musashi. | ||
| I'd like to see Weidman vs. | ||
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Kelvin. | |
| I think that'd be a fun fight. | ||
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I don't want a top 4-3 guy for him yet. | |
| Bill, he's 25! | ||
| If he uses Yoel, what do we do? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I really hope he stays at 185 and I think he can be a champion. | ||
| I think he's got everything it takes to be a champion. | ||
| But bring him up slower. | ||
| How does he beat New Rockhold? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| How the fuck did he beat this guy? | ||
| How the fuck did Michael Bisping beat him? | ||
| Give him some time. | ||
| How did Michael Bisping beat Rockhold? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| He might lose to Rockhold, or he might tune Rockhold up the same way you saw him do the V Tour tonight. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| He's a great fighter. | ||
| I mean, that kid, his movement and his accuracy and his combinations, his punches, is fucking phenomenal. | ||
| His ability to survive on the ground against Tim Kennedy in that first round and, like, virtually burn no energy, came out of that, survived, and then started beating the shit out of Tim. | ||
| And you're like, well, maybe Tim Kennedy did really overtrain. | ||
| Maybe he's not really prepared. | ||
| Look Look what the fuck he did tonight to Vitor. | ||
| There's a big difference between Vitor Belfort at 38 off TRT and the Jacare, Yoel Romero, and Luke Rockhold. | ||
| Big difference. | ||
| You're right. | ||
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Can he beat them? | |
| Yes, right now would be very difficult. | ||
| But this is the next step, right? | ||
| The next logical step. | ||
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How's that the next step? | |
| That's insane. | ||
| I think the next logical step, I feel like Kelvin is top 10. Yes, top 10, yes. | ||
| I think after the 10 Kennedy fight, I think he was 10. What was he ranked after the Kennedy fight? | ||
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Isn't he like 8 or no? | |
| I think he's 9, isn't he? | ||
| He might be 10 and Vitor's 9. I don't pay attention. | ||
| So if that's the case, I feel like he's in the top 6 or 7 now. | ||
| I think he's moved up, right? | ||
| This is a phenomenal performance. | ||
| He's 2-0 at middleweight. | ||
| He looked amazing against, and on the feet, it was all on the feet, against one of the best strikers in the game. | ||
| Did you go, aw, when you saw Vitor's face? | ||
| Oh, Kelvin's 10. Kelvin's 10. It bums me out when I see a great lose. | ||
| What about Robert Whittaker? | ||
| That'd be a fun fight. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| There's a fucking barn burner for you. | ||
| But Whittaker has a barn burner coming up. | ||
| Jacare. | ||
| Damn, that's gonna be nuts. | ||
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That's a fucking fight. | |
| I don't think you give Calvin to Jacare or any of those guys quite yet. | ||
| So did you know the result of this fight, Eddie? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You knew what round and the whole deal? | ||
| I didn't know what round. | ||
| Was it the first round? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, there you go. | |
| What about Derek Brunson or Anderson Silva? | ||
| Yeah, that's interesting. | ||
| But wait a minute. | ||
| This is not current. | ||
| It can't be, because Vitor's still ahead of him. | ||
| Well, they're not going to update it tonight, right? | ||
| Or last night. | ||
| But the fight was yesterday. | ||
| I guess they'd probably wait until Monday. | ||
| But yeah, look. | ||
| That's a crazy division, right? | ||
| And Derek Brunson and Anderson Silva just getting done with their fight. | ||
| Robert Whittaker. | ||
| Brunson makes sense out of that. | ||
| It's not a big name fight though for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you got Andrew Silva, Brunson, Robert Whitaker has a date, Musashi has a date, Wyman has a date, Souza. | ||
| Everyone has a date except for Rockhold. | ||
| Yeah, Rockhold has been talking about Bisping. | ||
| He's waiting for Bisping. | ||
| He wants to kick Bisping's ass. | ||
| But Bisping and GSP don't even have a date. | ||
| So what are you going to do, Rockhold? | ||
| Where are they going to do that fight? | ||
| They don't know, do they? | ||
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Is this the first time they ever announced a fight without a date or a venue or... | |
| I feel like it's got to be the 4th of July weekend, right? | ||
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You would think. | |
| Yeah, if you want to knock something out of the park. | ||
| What does it say there? | ||
| Bisping vs. | ||
| St. Pierre. | ||
| Does it say a number? | ||
| You look over there in that little picture. | ||
| It says March 3rd press conference. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So they don't have a date. | ||
| I would imagine if we're looking, we're already in March, April, May, June, July. | ||
| Four months from now, that's very reasonable. | ||
| There's something with GSP he didn't want to fight. | ||
| Well, that's Jon Jones weekend, too, you know. | ||
| That's when Jon Jones returns. | ||
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Jon Jones, Anthony Johnson, Jon Jones, DC. On the undercover? | |
| Mufasa. | ||
| Say it again. | ||
| Mufasa. | ||
| That's going to be scary. | ||
| Jon Jones coming back. | ||
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Enjoy that. | |
| Either one. | ||
| On the undercard of Bisping versus GSP. Holy shit, what a card. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| What a card. | ||
| Hey, Eddie Bravo, what happened with you and Michael Bisping? | ||
| We heard that there was this crazy argument, and there's a video of you guys talking, but it seems like you're working it out. | ||
| Bisping's my friend. | ||
| It's like when you're arguing with your friends, people are thinking, oh, were they going to fight? | ||
| Not for one second did I think a fight was going to go down. | ||
| You know, every time I talk about Mike Bisping or anyone else, they usually say he visibly improves from fight to fight. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| And I'm sure he's sick of hearing that, and I was talking about that. | ||
| I was complimenting him, but then I could see how he thought that implied that He was subpar at one point. | ||
| So he was like, I take offense to that, man. | ||
| I was always a badass ever since the Ultimate Fighter show. | ||
| And I understand where he's coming from. | ||
| So it was just a misinterpretation of what you were describing. | ||
| Yeah, and then we just started talking about he's fighting GSP. Yeah, he's a good dude. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| We were arguing and he was getting kind of insulted. | ||
| He was like, I'm insulted when people say that. | ||
| I'm like, I'm sorry, I get it. | ||
| You know, I get it. | ||
| I was trying to compliment you. | ||
| I'm trying to say good things about you, but I see how you could see. | ||
| I should have kept my mouth shut. | ||
| Was there a couple of adult beverages going around, too? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, for sure. | ||
| But, you know, by the end of that conversation, they didn't have anything. | ||
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You guys were good. | |
| Yeah, he's like, dude, I should come up and train with you because I'm fighting GSP. You know he's going to want to take me down. | ||
| I should get good off my back. | ||
| Come up, you know. | ||
| We were... | ||
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And he didn't even remember. | |
| He's such a competitive guy. | ||
| He didn't even remember. | ||
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That's what makes him great. | |
| He's not going to give you an inch. | ||
| Yeah, no, no. | ||
| We're all cool. | ||
| He DM'd me on Twitter and said, dude, sorry about last night. | ||
| I go, dude, don't even trip. | ||
| You know, I should have kept my mouth shut. | ||
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It was the biggest fight of his life coming up. | |
| People think, oh, it's the easiest fight for GSB. That's a tough fucking fight for George, man. | ||
| It's a very tough fight. | ||
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Think about Bisbee's takedown defense. | |
| Who says it's the easiest fight for GSP? That's crazy. | ||
| He's way bigger. | ||
| Michael Bisping is a legit 185 who fought at 205. Remember, he won the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| Oh my god, look at that combination. | ||
| Beautiful one too. | ||
| Look at that again. | ||
| They're showing it again. | ||
| Fucking incredible. | ||
| He looks so good. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| I'd be one legend, I'd be another one. | ||
| Calls out Spider Anderson for your C212 in Rio. | ||
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I don't blame him. | |
| It's a good idea. | ||
| Fighting these legends, smoking them. | ||
| I don't know if I want to see that, man. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'd rather see that than him versus Jacare or some shit. | ||
| Derrick Brunson seemed like he was hypnotized by Anderson. | ||
| He had too much respect for him. | ||
| Just punch him in the face, sir. | ||
| He just didn't seem like he found his groove. | ||
| Plus, it was him coming off the knockout loss to Robert Whittaker. | ||
| Bad knockout. | ||
| He's a little tentative. | ||
| He tried to switch things up. | ||
| He tried to go a little technical. | ||
| Against Anderson, so it was a bad idea. | ||
| You know, the fans lost in that fight. | ||
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That fight sucked. | |
| How dare you? | ||
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Sorry. | |
| It wasn't the best fight. | ||
| It wasn't the best fight. | ||
|
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There's this new guy here? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Todd Grisham. | ||
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Is he good? | |
| I honestly have not listened to him at all. | ||
| Because the last time he was doing something, we were doing a fight companion, so we talked over his work. | ||
| Whose spot did he take? | ||
| Karen Bryant? | ||
| For this, I think Karen, then he didn't really take Goldberg's spot. | ||
| he's doing some of the ones that Anik would have done, and Anik has kind of taken up Goldberg's spot. | ||
| I like you and Dom together. | ||
| The chemistry in you and Dom is the best for me, I think. | ||
| I like him. | ||
| I like doing it with him and I like doing it with DC too. | ||
| I like both of them. | ||
| You know what makes Bisping so incredible is not only did he, Eve, is that the fact that he got the belt basically with half an eye too. | ||
| That's got a play factor. | ||
| He did after 10 years, man. | ||
| He's been grinding. | ||
| He deserves more. | ||
| He never got caught for any P.A.D.s. | ||
| He lost to only P.A.D. guys, really. | ||
| He's been fucked, man. | ||
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Then he becomes champ on a seven-day notice shooting a movie. | |
| Knocks out Luke Rockhold. | ||
| He's nuts. | ||
| And then he revenges his loss against Dan Henderson. | ||
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It's nuts. | |
| His story's so cool, man. | ||
| It is a crazy story. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| I mean, it's all just heart and will. | ||
| Look at this combination, man. | ||
| Him and Vito, I mean, oh, see how he tagged him with that jab and snapped his head back? | ||
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Vitor's still got that spinning kick, though. | |
| Yeah, he keeps looking for it, though. | ||
| Oh, Jesus, when he gets his head snapped back. | ||
| Big John. | ||
| That's a function of a younger, faster guy. | ||
| Well, Vitor never had combinations like that. | ||
| Vitor's combinations were like straight line, blitzkrieg attacks. | ||
| What Calvin's doing is hitting these crazy angles with beautiful precision. | ||
| Like, if you look at the way he's delivering his punches, it's really some next-level shit. | ||
| He's one of the best punchers in MMA right now. | ||
| Because what he's doing is he's sliding in and he's not loading up on these shots. | ||
| He's throwing them with perfect efficiency. | ||
| And just ta-ting, ta-ting in his fucking accuracy. | ||
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Straight, what you don't see a lot. | |
| Speed, straight, everything. | ||
| And he moves his body side to side really well. | ||
| Look how he's like, oh man, it's beautiful. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| The way he lands that left hand, it's fucking phenomenal. | ||
| Fucking hits hard as shit, too. | ||
| You gotta go into the legs at that point. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Straight down the pipe with that left hand. | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Don't dink! | ||
| Was that an elbow? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Just punches, man. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| One, two. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
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Bang! | |
| Oh! | ||
| What a beautiful shot. | ||
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Overwhelmed. | |
| Don't ever bring that shit into my fucking cage. | ||
| It's like a 1980s show that got canceled after two episodes. | ||
| You don't know, dude. | ||
| About a group of mercenaries in the cage fight on the side. | ||
| It's a bad plot. | ||
| They have to choose whether or not they're going to work for the government or pursue a career in cage fighting. | ||
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That's a movie I don't want to see. | |
| Cage fighting wasn't even a real thing. | ||
| You guys got to make a fucking... | ||
| They had cage fighting, but they wore those PKA karate shoes from the 1980s. | ||
| And they wore those long shiny pants. | ||
| Remember those karate pants? | ||
| And they had the black belt on over the shiny pants. | ||
| And we say awesome things like this. | ||
| When we want to leave, we go like this. | ||
| I go, hey guys, let's blow this fucking joint. | ||
| I say that. | ||
| And then I... And then someone goes, you mean the whole joint? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then I go like this, I go, when we really want to get my boys going, I go, let's fucking go! | ||
| So G-O with a lot of O's. | ||
| There was a martial arts movie that Frank Shamrock... | ||
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I feel sick. | |
| You don't like my fucking movie? | ||
| Because it's man shit. | ||
| Let's go get some fucking burgers after we finish here when other people are talking or what happens? | ||
| What, dude? | ||
| I'm going through my movie. | ||
| Not even letting me fucking know. | ||
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No, he was talking. | |
| There's this low-budget martial arts movie called No Rules. | ||
| Frank Shamrock's in it. | ||
| Randy Couture's in it. | ||
| Tom Sizemore's in it when he's like... | ||
| Tom Sizemore! | ||
| When he needed cash and he's like in the middle of like... | ||
| Rehabs and everything. | ||
| He's in the movie as the main fighter, Thomas Eisner. | ||
| Oh hell no. | ||
| And he wore a sweater when he fought. | ||
| Like a loose sweater because he was like in the worst shape of his life. | ||
| You gotta see it, seriously. | ||
| No rules. | ||
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You got to see it. | |
| Dude, I don't know where it's at, but you have to see this. | ||
| Why don't we, here it is, look up at the screen. | ||
| We should do a fight. | ||
| Why don't we do a fight? | ||
| That's what I was going to say. | ||
| Dude, it's amazing. | ||
| Fuck yes. | ||
| Pamela Anderson's brother wrote the script. | ||
| That sounds like a bad idea already. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| It looks like serious action. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Look at this trailer, dude. | ||
| Dude, look at the fire behind it. | ||
| Pamela Anderson. | ||
| Pamela Anderson was in it? | ||
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In 2005, I'm in. | |
| I was supposed to be in it, but I bailed, because I had a seminar. | ||
| I'm like, dude, I'm proud of you, Eddie. | ||
| Jean-Jacques was going to be in it. | ||
| He bailed first. | ||
| Jean-Jacques bailed first. | ||
| I'm so proud of you, Eddie, for not doing this. | ||
| Did they agree to have Tom Sizemore in the sweater, or was that the stipulation? | ||
| Dude, that was incredible. | ||
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That's the only way they could get him. | |
| Remember David Dunn? | ||
| Yeah, I remember Dave. | ||
| You always have to have the sea where he's contemplating, where he looks out on the ocean. | ||
| It's super important to wander and meditate. | ||
|
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Dude, this is 2.5. | |
| It looks like 87. Uh-oh. | ||
| And there's an evil fight team, and when they do omoblatas, it's like a satanic thing. | ||
| They kill you with omoblatas. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| Frank Shamrock is part of the evil fight team. | ||
| Look at the tap-out logo. | ||
| They kill people. | ||
| Uh oh, is that Pamela Anderson? | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| She made a cameo. | ||
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She did this and barbed wire. | |
| She threw something at him. | ||
| Oh, right in the head. | ||
|
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Oh, right in the head. | |
| Whoa, he backfisted that guy. | ||
| Dude, that backfist is sick. | ||
| Dave Dunn with the backfist. | ||
| Look at the uppercut. | ||
| The uppercut that launches the dude upside down and backwards. | ||
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See that happen a million times. | |
| This is good. | ||
| Oh, it's real. | ||
| Jean-Jacques wasn't going to be here. | ||
| He backed out. | ||
| So they call me up. | ||
| They go, Jean-Jacques backed out. | ||
| And he goes, dude, we need another villain. | ||
| And I knew Randy Couture was thinking about being in movies. | ||
| So I said, maybe I could call Randy. | ||
| So I called Randy. | ||
| I go, you want to do a movie? | ||
| They need a villain last minute. | ||
| Randy Couture jumped in and he did it. | ||
| So now if we do something like this... | ||
| It almost can't be a stand-alone thing. | ||
| Like, we really almost need some of the dialogue. | ||
| Dude, you gotta see it. | ||
|
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You gotta see it. | |
| Because people need to hear what the fuck we're referring to. | ||
| Oh, it's a great movie. | ||
| Now, is this a movie that they can get online? | ||
|
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Gary Busey! | |
| Gary Busey's in it! | ||
| Look at this, the evil fight. | ||
| Look at Frank Shamrock right here. | ||
| Oh my god, Gary Busey is in it. | ||
|
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Look at the Satanic Fight Club. | |
| Frank Shamrock. | ||
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This is the worst movie of all time. | |
| Frank Shamrock is Satanic? | ||
| Satanic Fight Team. | ||
| Look at Gary Busey, the best. | ||
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Dude, I can't believe no one's career boomed up. | |
| Oh, he broke that dude's back over his shoulders. | ||
| That's a good move. | ||
| Dude, look at that. | ||
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That's MMA Bible. | |
| Look, it's Randy. | ||
| Young Randy Couture. | ||
| This is an amazing movie. | ||
| What is Randy up to these days? | ||
| Anybody talk to him? | ||
| Look at that Randy and... | ||
| He was on our show a little bit ago. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
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Doing the damn thing. | |
| What's he been doing? | ||
| He's involved with that Fighters Union thing, and then he's making movies, doing a lot of action. | ||
| Which Fighters Union thing? | ||
| Isn't there like three of them, and they're all duking it out with each other? | ||
| There's the Mixed Martial Arts Athletic Association, and then there's the Union. | ||
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He's part of the Union. | |
| What's the better one? | ||
| Oh, the training montage. | ||
| Super important. | ||
| Association with your destiny. | ||
| Punching ropes and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, Makiriwara. | ||
| This is an amazing movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is like my life in the 80s, man, when I ran with that gang. | ||
|
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This is my 90s movie. | |
| Oh, this is 2005. It was taken off of my dragon gang that I used to roam with. | ||
| No rules. | ||
|
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No rules. | |
| That wasn't rules. | ||
| Guaranteed hit. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| That was right when The Ultimate Fighter was made. | ||
| That movie. | ||
| So they're trying to capitalize on that shit. | ||
| No, they probably didn't know about it yet. | ||
| It was probably like in the process of that. | ||
| And then they saw how it really goes down like, ah, shit. | ||
|
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Damn it. | |
| Damn it. | ||
| There's no Satan worship in MMA. Satanic fighting. | ||
| I remember reading the script going, what? | ||
|
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You must be like, what? | |
| Dude, throw him a bone! | ||
| There must be. | ||
|
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Throw him a bone! | |
| I bet if we had a show where we just watched bad movies. | ||
| They should be happy. | ||
| I bet if we had a show where we just watched bad movies and did a companion for bad movies. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Movie companions? | ||
| Movie companions? | ||
| You never run out of shitty movies. | ||
| You know what they told me? | ||
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And you can go, we're hitting play now. | |
| You give everyone a week's notice on Monday and go, hey, we're watching fucking Naked Gun on Friday. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're playing it now. | ||
| And everyone has Naked Gun ready in their score. | ||
| Yeah, everybody cues it up. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And then we all watch it together. | ||
| Like Grease. | ||
| I was watching Grease the other night with John Travolta and I sent a text message to Jamie. | ||
| I said, we should do a fight companion for the movie Grease. | ||
| I got chills. | ||
| They're multiplying. | ||
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And I'm losing control. | |
| Overpower. | ||
| You're supplying. | ||
| It's electrifying. | ||
| Oh my God, what a great... | ||
| You better shape up... | ||
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Because I need a man. | |
| Because I need a man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The producer of that show said, Dude, if you get me fucking Randy Couture, I will make your part so much bigger. | ||
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He said that? | |
| He said that. | ||
| And I'm like, whatever. | ||
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Yeah, right! | |
| Then I bailed like two weeks later. | ||
| I gotta find a way to bail. | ||
| Sounds like a bad idea. | ||
| Oh, that's so funny. | ||
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It's so funny. | |
| It was the satanic omoplathas that got me. | ||
| It got John Jock. | ||
| John Jock said, he let somebody read the script. | ||
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I can't. | |
| They said, I advise you to abort mission. | ||
| This will ruin your name. | ||
| How do you die from an omoplata? | ||
| Does your arm just rip off and you bleed? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I never got through the whole movie. | ||
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You're goddamn right you did it. | |
| You get through like 20 minutes and you're like, cool, I get it. | ||
| 20 minutes. | ||
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You've got to get a series of movies like that. | |
| You get a bunch of them. | ||
| This is my favorite commercial. | ||
| I want to see Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse. | ||
| The guy in the tiny pony. | ||
| Yeah, but Patrick Swayze in Rosehouse has almost been done to death. | ||
| I live-tweeted it once, or Instagrammed it, and I realized how homoerotic it is. | ||
| It's insanely homoerotic. | ||
| I went through a whole series of tweets where I highlighted what their quotes were, what the fuck they said. | ||
| Do you want to see the gayest scene? | ||
| The gayest scene of all time is the volleyball scene in First Top Gun. | ||
| Go ahead, pull that up, Jamie. | ||
| That was a whole thing that... | ||
| This is an interesting story. | ||
| This is a whole thing that... | ||
| Quentin Tarantino put in a movie, but apparently it's something that, a Roger Avery thing. | ||
| It's like, you could read it up online, but it's apparently Roger Avery's theory that, you know, Roger Avery made Killing Zoe, who's a brilliant actor, or brilliant director, writer, and wound up killing a guy in a drunk driving accident. | ||
| Wound up doing jail time and was like tweeting from jail. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| If I remember correctly, in the early days of Twitter. | ||
| I'm not making that up, right? | ||
| Isn't that the case? | ||
| Was tweeting, I think, from the early days of jail. | ||
| But this... | ||
| Top Gun, according to Tarantino, according to Roger Avery, was his theory. | ||
| It's like, say, if you had a theory and you were always talking about it, you'd polished it up and made it really funny, and then you'd tell it to Shob, and Shob goes on Fox News and starts talking about, here's my theory, B, and he just rattles off your stuff. | ||
| That's kind of what he did, allegedly. | ||
| But what was he saying about it? | ||
| Well, it's just that Top Gun is gay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, Quentin Tarantino goes through this whole thing about all the different various moments where you realize what the hidden subtext is, and it's all homosexual. | ||
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Is it really? | |
| I don't remember that shit. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| We can't play it, although it'll kick us off of YouTube, but we'll play it after the podcast is over. | ||
| Oh, we can't play the volleyball scene, I don't know. | ||
| No, we can't play the Quentin Tarantino dissection of Top Gun because if we do, they'll kick us off of YouTube because it's not our content. | ||
| Is that the actual movie right there? | ||
| It is. | ||
| Everything gets kicked off YouTube. | ||
| People own their content. | ||
| If you make something, whether it's a movie or a song or anything, and someone puts it on a YouTube thing and then puts it up on YouTube, they shut it down. | ||
| We got shut down for showing Planet Earth 2, the lizard run from snakes. | ||
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They shut it down like minutes. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, all those, apparently, that's one of the most lucrative video segments, is the animal attack segment. | ||
| Because people love watching those animals attack other animals and attack people. | ||
| And any time there's a video like that, if you throw that shit up on Facebook, it's going to get your page shut down. | ||
| It's happening to me. | ||
| With the quickness, too. | ||
| Quick. | ||
| And they shut my page down for like three days. | ||
| Instagram's are cool, though. | ||
| They're a little bit cooler, but it's going to eventually bleed over to that, too. | ||
| Because doesn't Google own Instagram? | ||
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Facebook. | |
| Facebook owns Instagram. | ||
| So seriously, it's the same thing. | ||
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Haters gonna hate. | |
| Haters gonna hate. | ||
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Let me post a goddamn fucking reptile video. | |
| Yeah, but the problem is somebody owns that reptile video on YouTube and they're making money off the ads and it's real money. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| Because a lot of those videos, it's 100% fair. | ||
| Oh, no, it's definitely fair. | ||
| Look, we just want to see it, okay? | ||
| If I can put it up on my page and show everybody, that's cool, too. | ||
| But I just want to see it. | ||
| So if people are showing... | ||
| Whatever is going to make sure these people put up more of those videos is good. | ||
| I mean, I'm not in the fucking animal attack video business. | ||
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Well, you know what would be cool is if you repost a video from Planet... | |
| Maybe they want to generate more subscribers onto their page, though, and the argument could be made that if you had it somewhere else, it somehow or another might keep people from subscribing to their page. | ||
| That's the argument. | ||
| We did this thing on Fightin' the Kid 3D where I put on a deer suit, and Brendan put on a lion suit, and I had to kind of run away from him, like on my hands and knees, like on my hands and feet. | ||
| It was for this sketch, and he would come over and just jump in the air and land on me. | ||
| I was so fucking worried my back was going to break every single time, but I was thinking about how ridiculous that fucking sketch was, where we're both dressed as— It's a little bit ridiculous now when we're talking about real animal attacks, yeah. | ||
| Well, it was very similar. | ||
| Yeah, but it would give you a nice opportunity to talk about Fighter and the Kid 3D, which is available now. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I don't even know if it is. | ||
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Fox owns that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Are they not releasing it? | ||
| No, I don't think we have to pay for it. | ||
| Oh, because you guys broke up? | ||
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Yeah, since we separated. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
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Divorce. | |
| So you guys made all those sketches and now people can't watch them? | ||
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They can, but they have to pay... | |
| You know what? | ||
| It's all over online. | ||
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And they're good. | |
| They released them. | ||
| Don't pay for them. | ||
| Do some research. | ||
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You can find them. | |
| I can't believe what you're saying. | ||
| Some of them are good. | ||
| I'm proud of them. | ||
| Most finishes in UFC pride WEC Strikeforce history. | ||
| Shogun right up there with 17. Donald Cerrone 17. Vandele 20. And Crow Cop number one. | ||
| So is Crow Cop on Mount Rushmore? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| He never... | ||
| Not in the UFC. He never really performed to the best of his ability in the UFC. He also never looked this... | ||
| Well... | ||
| Who knows what that's all about? | ||
| But he never looked the same. | ||
| When he came from Strikeforce, or excuse me, from Pride, over to the UFC. Then when he left the UFC, he did work. | ||
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He became one champion, rising. | |
| It's fucking nuts, man. | ||
| Well, you know, he got back on the Mexican supplements, let's be honest. | ||
| But he was also on Mexican supplements for a little bit during the UFC, let's be honest. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| 100% exemption. | ||
| Do you think he was on a TRT exemption? | ||
| Really? | ||
| He had TRT? I think so. | ||
| Well, don't they have to announce that though? | ||
| No, hell no they don't have to announce that. | ||
| How many people had it? | ||
| Oh man, a good amount. | ||
| And then, because the floodgates opened, because once people found out other guys were doing it, they had to put a stop to it. | ||
| Because you had to go through certain people to get it, and then it was just a bad look. | ||
| Because if it's an advantage, everyone wants to do it. | ||
| Yeah, it was weird for a few years, because it was legal for a few years, and everybody was like, what are they doing? | ||
| Yeah, we're doing steroids. | ||
| TRT? You know, the floodgates open, but then they're like, no, hell no. | ||
| Well, not only that, like, the way they measure your levels, like... | ||
| You could be doing that stuff every day. | ||
| I mean, as long as you're staying under some ridiculously high level, and some of them that did get caught, like one of the reasons why it got shut down was when they caught Vitor, and he was at like 1,470, and the doctor was like, well, this isn't even healthy. | ||
| This is like a dangerous level. | ||
| Same thing with Nate Marquardt. | ||
| When Nate Marquardt got popped, he was supposed to fight Rick Story, and then he wound up fighting Charlie Brenneman. | ||
| That was last minute replacement. | ||
| It was like, they did his levels, and they went, what the fuck, son? | ||
| Like, there ain't no way you're fighting. | ||
| Like, this is not healthy. | ||
| Like, you're on some silverback gorilla levels here. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Aren't there different, like there's free testosterone? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So how does that work? | ||
| Well, you'd have to talk to a real endocrinologist. | ||
| But they would explain what's available to you, what your body has to process, what your levels are. | ||
| And then they can also find, like, it all depends on when you've eaten, how much sleep you've gotten. | ||
| If you worked out. | ||
| What kind of a meal you've eaten? | ||
| That's why these blood tests are kind of ridiculous. | ||
| I talked to a doctor who literally told me, if you wanted your growth hormone levels to show up as low, all you would have to do is eat a really heavy meal right before you got your blood tested. | ||
| How far before? | ||
| He's like... | ||
| 45 minutes, an hour should do it. | ||
| He goes, just eat a bunch of cheeseburgers and shitty food and fries and milkshakes and then just go in there. | ||
| He goes, you'll have such a crash. | ||
| Your insulin levels, your growth hormone levels, everything's going to be all fucked and out of whack because you just threw some sludge into your system. | ||
| So how's the best way to check your true resting testosterone? | ||
| Over a week? | ||
| Yeah, you should test it. | ||
| You should get a mean. | ||
| You should test it, and you should write down what you're eating, how much you're sleeping, and then also, one of the things that has a big effect on testosterone is how much cholesterol and how much saturated fat. | ||
| And people, for the longest time, of course, thought it was the opposite. | ||
| They thought that that stuff was bad for you, but now they realize that's actually the precursors for testosterone and other hormones. | ||
| Saturated fat. | ||
| Your body needs cholesterol and saturated fat to convert to testosterone. | ||
| So one of the things that people find, and John Rallo found this out, he was one of the first people to tell me about this, when he switched to a keto diet, his testosterone went way up. | ||
| He goes way up. | ||
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Yeah, it happens with a lot of guys. | |
| Your whole state during the day changes because you don't have the crash thing. | ||
| Like, last night I ate in the late afternoon and then I didn't eat till this morning. | ||
| So I probably went... | ||
| Till I had some butter coffee this morning at like 10 a.m. | ||
| And I had maybe eaten at like 3 in the afternoon. | ||
| It's a long fast. | ||
| It's a long fast. | ||
| But it doesn't bother me at all. | ||
| Because of the fats? | ||
| Because my body's just used to burning fats. | ||
| Oh, I had some exogenous ketones, too. | ||
| I had some of that like an hour later. | ||
| So, my body's on full ketogenic state, so I'm just burning fat all the time. | ||
| And when you do that, you don't have that weird, crazy, like, I've got to eat now thing. | ||
| The crashes, the highs and the lows. | ||
| But if I was just burning carbohydrates and I took that much time off eating, I'd be frantic. | ||
| Like, really frantic. | ||
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And you won't be able to think and stuff, too. | |
| Meanwhile, my energy levels are perfect. | ||
| I did two sets last night at the store. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| No problems. | ||
| Yeah, when you live off fat, as opposed to glucose, your appetite is way more suppressed. | ||
| Way more suppressed. | ||
| Just for that benefit alone, I like it. | ||
| Just that. | ||
| Because it keeps me from thinking about it so much. | ||
| Because when I fucked up... | ||
| Maybe a week or so ago. | ||
| Not even. | ||
| Last weekend. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, but a week ago. | ||
| I took like one Sunday and I went off. | ||
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That's a good time. | |
| I had pizza. | ||
| I had a Cuban sandwich. | ||
| I ate all this bread and shitty food. | ||
| And then it took me like a few days for my body to get back into a state of ketosis. | ||
| But once I did that, man, I was so hungry. | ||
| Like as soon as my body started flipping over to the calorie, to the carbohydrate side. | ||
| Because you needed more glucose because your body, you go through glucose very quickly in your bloodstream. | ||
| You only have a few hours of it. | ||
| So your body gets hungry again. | ||
| Yeah, your body has a few hours of it and then you've got to refuel again. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
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Dude, I have to go soon. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
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I have a set tonight. | |
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Coming to the store. | ||
| Aren't you on tonight, too? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Whose show is that? | ||
| It's for an animal rescue thing. | ||
| By the way, the end of this month, March 30, 31, April 1, I'm at the American Comedy Company. | ||
| That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| I'm pitching my date. | ||
| He's just throwing in some plugs. | ||
| Yeah, I'll be in San Diego at the end of the month. | ||
| That's a great club. | ||
| I know, I love it. | ||
| That's a fun place. | ||
| Do you ever do La Jolla? | ||
| Do you do the Comedy Store down there? | ||
| Not anymore, and I miss it. | ||
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I'm there, Joe. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| April 27th. | ||
| What a segue. | ||
| I'm glad you brought that up, sir. | ||
| It's amazing, huh? | ||
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Finding Kid, April 8th and 9th, D.C., Philly. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Do I have time for one plug, too? | ||
| Yes, please. | ||
| I'm going to be at Evolve slash 10th Planet Singapore for a week. | ||
| Super camp, two classes a day, Monday through Friday, and then there's a 1FC show on that Saturday. | ||
| It's May 21st, all that week, two classes a day. | ||
| Contact Evolve MMA. It's gonna be crazy. | ||
| So they're bringing you in to do the seminar and then you're gonna stay for the fights and watch the fights? | ||
| I'm doing two classes a day. | ||
| It's like a crazy camp. | ||
| All week. | ||
| So you're doing that and then you're gonna stay for the fights? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| One FC. Somebody should fucking snatch you up. | ||
| Would you be willing to do that thing that you used to do for the UFC? We used to do the scoring in between rounds? | ||
| I'd rather just watch the fights, man. | ||
| I'd rather just watch them. | ||
| You want to watch them right here, right? | ||
| I'll do it. | ||
| What do I know? | ||
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Come on. | |
| This is the most fun place in the house to watch the fights. | ||
| They should give us a booth ringside and let us fight Companion. | ||
| Just give us a booth. | ||
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It's one of the biggest ratings of all time, yeah. | |
| You want to see who would be paying attention. | ||
| Like, if you have those commentary options, like you have it on Fight Pass, you can listen to it in Espanol, you can listen to it. | ||
| You know, this should be, you can listen to the corners, this should be an option for Fight Companion. | ||
| If we had a Fight Companion option, we showed up, and we showed up, and we had like a fucking smoke-proof booth. | ||
| Smoke proof booth. | ||
| Just jamie up there with like DJ lights and like a DJ table and a smoke proof room and just filled. | ||
| That's good. | ||
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That'd be sick. | |
| I want to do a... | ||
| People go crazy. | ||
| Do you know... | ||
| The reality is, we're not trying to brag here, but the reality is way more people listen to this than watch these fights. | ||
| That's not bragging, that's a fact. | ||
| It's just true. | ||
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God, you're not bragging. | |
| The last one, I mean, we've gotten, you know, with YouTube and with iTunes, we've got as many as 7 million people downloading and watching these things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How much is that? | ||
| I gotta start doing my hair before I come. | ||
| There's no way this got seven million people. | ||
| This maybe got a million. | ||
| You think it got a million? | ||
| No. | ||
| This might have got a million. | ||
| Fox Sports one? | ||
| Might got a million. | ||
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Saturday night? | |
| Maybe. | ||
| A million's good? | ||
| A million's not bad. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| What we're not taking into consideration is how many people watched in Brazil. | ||
| It might be way over a million because it's Vitor, right? | ||
| Oh shit, that's straight left. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It might be way over a million in Brazil. | ||
| I mean, we're not getting the Globo numbers, right? | ||
| We're getting the FS1 numbers. | ||
| Unless we hire people to translate this in Portuguese. | ||
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Now we're talking. | |
| Can you imagine? | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| It's pronounced Portuguese. | ||
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You gotta have a Brazilian, Eddie, Bravo, Brian, and me, and Rogan? | |
| The problem is that the humor wouldn't translate. | ||
| Someone would fuck up our jokes. | ||
| He goes, these guys suck. | ||
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I know, these guys are mad. | |
| I just want somebody with a sexy voice to dub me. | ||
| I know, I need about to. | ||
| Are you just talking into the mic with food in your face? | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I'm gonna leave on that note, gentlemen. | ||
| Okay, let's wrap this bitch up, and we're gonna try to do next Saturday night, or Saturday afternoon, 2 in the afternoon, right? | ||
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Birthday! | |
| I'm bringing birthday cake! | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Happy birthday, buddy! | ||
| To your son. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| We got a lot of podcasts this week. | ||
| See ya. |
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