Jamie Vernon and Joe Rogan critique CES’s flashy but impractical tech, like Samsung’s sub-pound laptop and 40GB GoPro clips, while praising camera upgrades. Rogan imagines immersive VR worlds (e.g., Disney’s Avatar parks) but doubts home accessibility, favoring incremental improvements over gimmicks. They debate haptic feedback’s potential—from Tanvas to Black Mirror—and car tech, like Divergent 3D’s Blade supercar and Toyota’s reliability vs. Maserati’s aesthetics. Rogan warns against tech replacing real-world depth, like VR over back-porch hangouts, and speculates 60% of CES attendees may be on MDMA, risking health crises amid $10K+ nightlife events. [Automatically generated summary]
Anything you'd see at like a Fry's or Best Buy, from all the way down to anything that would be in a car, anything in a kitchen, anything in a bedroom, anything consumer electronics, basically.
I saw a lot of things that I just, they might not be ready, or they're prototypes.
And just like at a car show, too, there are some things that are just showing you, like, this is what we can do right now.
This isn't even what's going to be available.
This is what we can do.
Maybe if there's a lot of interest, we'll make it.
For instance, there was this really cool laptop that has three screens on it now.
So it's a gaming laptop that you can get some sort of crazy, but they were just prototypes too, and two of them just got stolen last night or two days ago after the event, so they're trying to get them taken back.
Wouldn't you like to think that whoever you have to be to be an innovator in technology and electronics, you would have to be some super fucking smart guy.
You would think you'd just leave every room open with people like that.
They weren't up for many Golden Globes on that, but HBO didn't win anything, and I only remember seeing one or two Westworld people even up for anything.
Well, it just shows you, if that is the case, maybe it's just there's a lot of other shows that are even more awesome that we're just not aware of yet.
It's so hard to tell because people's tastes vary so much.
It's almost like they're watching something different than you.
Who you are, like, as a person, your life experiences, and what that show means to you when you're watching it, it's so different for all of us.
Like, for each one of us, it's different.
That's what's weird about television.
It's what's weird about books and music and comedy and pretty much everything.
There's not one universal awesome thing.
There's some shit that, like, everybody goes, God damn, it's good, no matter what you like.
Like Michael Jackson in his prime.
I remember there was this radio station in Boston.
It was, I think, I'm pretty sure it was WBCN. It was either WBCN or WCOZ. Those are like the two rock stations.
COZ was a little harder.
If you were a COZ person, you were like a little bit more into like Metallica, a little harder.
COZ! Yeah, and BCN, I'm pretty sure it was BCN, they played a Michael Jackson song.
And that was back when DJs could just play music.
It was a different world.
They could just play whatever they wanted to.
Because if you were a DJ right now and you had a bunch of records, and you had an internet radio station, if they let you do it, I don't think you can, but if they did let you do it, you just play those records and play whatever the fuck you want.
That doesn't exist anymore!
It doesn't exist.
So this dude, I wish I could remember who it was, just started playing this Michael Jackson song.
He goes, I don't care what you like, this is great music.
It's hard, I think it's hard for us to appreciate how crazy that was with no internet.
Just television stations and radio stations.
And much less people on the planet.
That's even weirder.
What do we have, like a hundred million more people than when I was a kid?
Like what was the, find out what the population was in 1980 in the United States.
Because that would have been when I was like 13. Because I was in high school in 81. 226.5 million.
Dude, there's 100 million more people here now.
100 million more people here than when I was a kid.
That's fucking bananas.
Wow.
That's an insane number.
I mean, that's really hard to imagine.
It's really hard to imagine.
You stop and think about what that means for another 30 or 40 years.
If it's going to go up another 100 million, where are we going to put all these fucking people?
I mean, they say that it peaks off though.
When cities and countries start doing better because then they start having less children because their economic situation turns up and then a lot of women get careers and they're more reluctant to give up those careers to have children and they have less children when they do have children.
And so they think that if you looked at, like, the trends towards urbanization, there could potentially be a time in the future where we worried about a decline in population, like a natural decline.
I feel like I've heard it that it's happening now, that it's not, that we've almost, not peaked, but it's on a decline in some places for sure, I think I've read.
I did this thing before my Showtime special in 2005. Where I was comparing like mountains and lakes and rivers to what you see when you see a city, how it looks like a growth.
And then it's like a lot of other growths.
Like even if you burn it, like you got to burn it all off.
Otherwise it just comes back and it gets bigger and stronger.
And if you could look at it as something, if you were outside of Our understandings and our knowledge of what cities are and people and languages and communities and cultures.
If you could look past all that, you'd look at these things that are growing on this planet.
You'd look at this concrete, weird fucking growth.
And when you break it down, if that's a real number, if we need 100,000 houses a year, I saw this picture.
The results described as a remarkable step in human communication.
Woo!
That is fucking crazy.
They're sending messages through the internet.
They were able to send the words.
Scroll up a little bit back where they were.
They were able to send the words, Olan Chow, from a location in India to a location in France.
Transmitted signals directly.
Wow, this is nuts.
It's just hard to imagine...
How far that could go.
You know, if they can do that now.
What I've been thinking, this sounds like total bananas, but I've really been thinking a lot about it lately, is that, you know, the internet kind of allows everybody to communicate together.
You can have your Twitter account and your Facebook and all that jazz.
I feel like what's going to happen with this kind of technology and this sort of hive mind technology is if they can transmit Signals from one person to another person through the brain with this technology.
This is real similar to like when they first started putting things on message boards in the internet and bulletin boards and like someone would put it up and then you'd have to check it and that was like the only method of communication.
Like my friend Andrews talked to me about that a lot.
He was on in the really early days of the internet and so these bulletin boards were like really primitive and this was like one of the first things that people had devised to communicate with online.
But now here we are 20 years later and it's fucking...
You're streaming live on Instagram, and you're doing Facebook Live, and people are taking pictures, instantaneously uploading them.
They're going to be able to, some way or another, allow us to interface with our brains the same way we interface using these phones and using computers.
In this scenario you're bringing up, like, what if you sent me a message I didn't want, or I didn't want to have right then, I didn't want right now, I'm busy, I'm doing something else?
Well, I mean, we're probably going to be able to opt out of it, but how many people are going to opt out of it?
And even if you do, maybe you could turn it off, like airplane mode, you know, just like you do with your phone at night, if you're watching a TV show or something.
I think that if you're really going to keep going with this, and it seems like they're going to, I mean, if they're doing things like this, it's not going to stop right there.
It's not going to, well, we did it.
That's awesome.
Let's just leave it there.
No, they have these new batteries.
Have you seen these new fucking batteries that they're powering with nuclear waste?
And almost 10 years later, he's trying to still do that with these...
Murderous white men.
Because Kelly Pavlik was a murderous white dude, too.
Murderous puncher.
And then this Joe Smith Jr. is a ferocious puncher.
Oh, he's just a killer.
Bernard Hopkins, like, one thing you got to give the guy, as amazing as his career has been, even at the very last fight, he takes the toughest fight he can find, or one of the toughest ones.
Just a real young, dangerous kid.
But it's just...
Even though, like, we've seen it happen with Sugary Leonard.
We saw it.
I mean, remember when Sugary Leonard got beat up by Hector Camacho?
He just stayed in too long.
And Hector Camacho just beat the shit out of him.
And it's like, wow, this is weird to watch.
And he had Billy Blanks in his corner.
Billy Blanks was teaching him Taibo.
He did.
He had Billy Blanks.
Billy Blanks was a karate champion, too.
He was a yoke dude.
And, you know, knows a lot about fitness.
But apparently Sugar Ray had something fucked up with his calf.
Like, he pulled a muscle in his calf.
Then he had to get a cortisone shot before the fight.
He had, like, a little bit of a limp, I remember.
But Hector Camacho fucked him up.
But the really scary one was Terry Norris.
When Terry Norris beat up Sugar Ray Leonard.
Do you remember that?
Terry Norris Jr., Terry Norris, he put a beating on a lot of dudes.
He was a scary kid.
When he was at his best, Terry Norris was like lightning.
Yeah, this is when Terry Norris was, you know, world class, and he was just a step faster than Sugar Ray.
And you can see he's getting to him.
Terry Norris, he had been knocked out a few times himself too, man.
He got into wars.
One of the exciting things about Norris was that he would get hit.
He would get in front of guys and he would, you know, really take some risks.
It's one of the reasons why he was so fun to watch.
But yeah, this is just...
I don't even remember exactly how this fight ends, but I'm pretty sure Terry stopped him.
I remember when I was younger, there was supposed to be a big event where Shaquille O'Neal was supposed to go one-on-one on pay-per-view with this other big player named Hakeem Olajuwon.
But some of this video is pretty cool on the stabilization.
And then I went over to the Samsung booth, and they have what they're kind of showing here is this flat, flat hanging TV, which the only way it's different from the things now is like when you hang a TV up on a wall, it's kind of hanging off about four to six inches.
You definitely shouldn't take a laptop while hunting.
But if you did, yeah, you would definitely want to do that.
Guys cut their toothbrushes in half.
There's a lot of drastic weight reduction when it comes to those things, but I just feel like for laptops, it's not that hard to carry one around, and you put it on your back, and to me, features and hard drive space and speed, that's the most important shit.
It's not that hard to carry a pound, or two pounds, or whatever the fuck it is, three pounds.
I don't know how it came out today, or not today, but this week someone made a or showed video of how one of the ways an iPhone was supposed to originally work, and it was using that scroll wheel that used to be on the old iPods.
I mean, it's a working prototype, so I'd have to say someone at least thought it might have been a good idea.
Well, it has to be that they went through a bunch of different ideas before they came up with the Yeah, I mean, I heard they're going through 10 different phones right now just to try to figure out what the next iPhone they're going to go with is.
Do you think that they've hit that point of critical mass where it's like, unless something really huge comes along, like hologram projectors or something really bananas, you've got everything now.
You've got amazing cameras.
You've got massive hard drive space.
You've got...
So much.
You have all these apps that you can use.
You've got all this usability.
What are you going to do that's going to make people want a next generation, and a next generation, and a next generation?
There has to be some sort of a leap, because it seems like for all the technology we have today, people are almost over-computered and over-phoned, right?
When I was walking around that event, I was looking for Either the big crowds to see what everyone was, like, stuck around looking at.
Because this event was so huge.
To stop and spend five minutes at a particular, I don't know, pod or product or even just let someone talk to you to take your time for that five minutes is insane because there's just so much to look at.
But at the same time, there's...
Well, I kind of lost what I was doing there, but...
I just kind of looked over at this thing I wanted to show you, which was this thing called Vertify, which is this 3D virtual reality program.
They showed this guy over here doing a demo for it.
I didn't want to wait in line.
I really didn't want to wait in any lines there because there were so many people, and I didn't feel very good to stand somewhere for 30 minutes and sweat.
Which I kind of like pulled into the comedy world.
You could bring the comedian into your living room and just have him perform in your living room instead of at the comedy venue that they were at, which would be interesting.
And there's behind it, too, is a wireless VR headset.
So there were, like I said, too, there were a lot of headsets, and there were lots of things.
And let me just throw out a number and say I did five tech demos.
Out of those five, two or three didn't work, or they didn't go well, or they didn't work perfectly at all.
So that's where I'm kind of like, I don't know that a lot of this stuff was maybe not ready.
Or maybe it was supposed to be shown that way and this is our only demo product we have for you guys to see.
It's supposed to work all the time.
It usually does, but we've done so many demos today, it kind of fucks up a little bit.
That could have been happening too a little bit.
But there is a lot of things going on here where they're just trying to show you an idea and hope someone with a lot of money walks by and is like, ah, that looks like a good idea.
But I tested that out to see how good it was, and I wasn't sure if I was holding the actual correct model, which was the one that had all the best features in it, because I had a couple different models out there.
There's just so much going on there, it was really hard to get a grasp of.
It's making me think, like, when you get to a certain level of this virtual reality stuff, you're going to want to look through, like, the best lens available.
You know, you're going to want, like, one of those high-end binocular companies to come along and craft something.
Well, with all this drone stuff, I'm going to ask you this question, because...
I don't know if it's an actual trend I see happening or if it's just something they're forcing or what, but there just seems to be a lot of camera equipment being made available for the individual to use to make really high-end stuff.
It was causing a rash on people because the battery connector wasn't, right?
I don't know.
They fixed it apparently now, but I haven't bought another one since then.
Because I found out that the Fitbit app on my iPhone works just about the same.
And there's also the built-in Apple iPhone apps now, too, that do the health stuff.
But what is everyone doing with all that data, or are they doing anything with it, mostly at all, besides really, really, really into fitness people, like personal trainers?
Well, I think there's some technologies that, even though they keep getting better and better, they're kind of ignored after a while.
Like, here's one of the most bizarre ones, is voice sound quality.
Nobody gives a fuck about when anybody's voice sounds like on a phone.
It's like it almost never gets discussed.
Isn't that one of the most important things about a phone?
You should be able to listen to someone on a phone and it should sound like they're talking to you.
It should be like right here.
Like, what's up, Jamie?
Oh, hey, what's up, dude?
It never sounds that good.
Ever.
But they have the ability to make it sound that good.
Why haven't they made it sound that good?
People barely fucking use their phone as a phone anymore.
The phone part is totally stagnant.
Like, the signal gets a little bit better.
You can catch a signal somewhere else, but it still sounds just as shitty as it ever did.
It doesn't sound perfect clarity.
It doesn't sound like you talking to me in the same room.
You telling me they can't do that?
Of course they can do that.
If they could get you to listen better now, with a better sound now than the rotary phones, the 1960s, they could improve on the sound quality, but there's no demand for it because people hardly talk on the phone anymore.
So it becomes one of those things where it just hits a certain point, nobody gives a fuck about it, and then the market goes where people give a fuck.
People give a fuck about cameras.
You gotta get a juicy camera.
I want a 15, 18, whatever a megapixel is.
It sounds awesome.
Get me one of those.
Oh, it's gigapixel?
They have gigapixels.
I need a gigapixel.
You know, like, how many people are just...
Just buying the latest shit, me included, because it's the latest shit.
Because it sounds awesome.
Because you want that one.
Oh, the S has the image stabilization that I'll never use.
There's so much of that shit out there.
But it seems so compelling.
If Apple had an iPhone 8, you and me would be in line like a couple of fucking dorks.
You can do a little bit of editing in their program, but to take it in a final cut or to do what I did just to show you more than 30 seconds at a time, I had to Spend, whatever, 12 minutes per 8 minute video converting all of it.
That's only because that's the capabilities of my computer.
If I had a faster one, maybe it would have been faster, but there's slower computers too.
And it's just like, what's the need of the 4K video then?
I couldn't even show the 4K video out because I can't broadcast to YouTube.
The distribution of this content now becomes the next step and the next hurdle you have to get past.
I was looking around a lot of 360 cameras because I just got that 360 camera and did the test footage with the weigh-in that we did last week.
I didn't personally just like how the footage looked.
There was a smudge on the screen which transferred over and it doesn't look very good and it wasn't at eye level.
I believe I was shooting that in 4k and it just looks a little grainy and messy.
And so I was looking around that whole event to just try to find, because there were multiple 360 cameras, and there was 4K streaming 360 cameras, and they all have their own proprietary software to run it off of.
But I did find one really good one, which does 3D... 360 video.
Ooh.
Which was really, really cool.
But I'm also wondering, too, if I saw something, one really good edited video they made to show it off, or if I was actually seeing...
That's when you're getting into really bizarre stuff, right?
When you're talking about 8K video, and then you're talking about 360-degree 3D. Yeah.
Because it seems like if we're going to enter into a real virtual realm any time in the near future, all this ramping up Of the specs, you know, going from 4K to 8K and then, you know, 32K is just around the corner.
They're just going to keep getting better at this shit.
And when you're talking about something through like a high-end glass, like a really high-end, like a, you know, binocular-type glass, and then having insanely high-definition video.
And then having this exponential jump in this virtual technology where they figure out a way to really lock you into something that is not...
It's not invasive to the point where it's not like fucking with your experience by you feeling it on your head.
It's very light, you know?
Because sometimes you're putting those bulky headsets and the goggles.
You know it's over your eyes.
Like, that's going to shrink up, too.
That's going to shrink up to almost nothing.
And with...
With all these big jumps that they're making, how far away are we from some fully immersive Avatar world?
An Avatar world that you could go for a journey in?
I mean, imagine if movies, if what they become, because, you know, think about how these serial shows like Sopranos and then ultimately, you know, Game of Thrones and a lot of these other great shows, they catch you and they rope you in and they bring you into a world.
And then you follow that world episode after episode and you get sucked into it, right?
It's very different than a regular movie.
What if they start doing these serial...
I mean, I think of, like, Game of Thrones as a serial movie, right?
There's a hundred parts to this movie, but it's a big, giant-ass movie.
I mean, it's so much better than a regular television show in terms of, like, its special effects and the grandness of it all.
If they can figure out how to film something like that but let you participate in it, I mean, let you strap on to some 3D treadmill type thing.
And move around in this fucking weird world and follow these people on their journeys.
Be right there when the orcs slaughter the people.
Like the blood splatter in front of you.
You're watching them get chopped up.
And then you're going to go over the mountain to where the castle is.
You have to actually walk over the mountain.
But as you walk over the mountain, horses ride beside you.
But what you're saying, what if they just took the extension of that and just, instead of making the Avatar movie, they just went, look, Avatar 5 is Avatar World, and if you want to come live it out, you've got to come to Disney World and pay $50 or $100 or $150 or $300.
You construct that world, and then, once you're in that world, then you put on the VR goggles, and it turns everything into fluorescent neon greens and blues, like the Avatar world.
You can see everything, and then you actually watch the movie play out in there.
They're not going to make a new Vive yet, but they showed a new headset attachment that makes the Vive fit on your head a little bit more comfortably.
And they showed what they're calling a tracker, which is essentially the end of the controller, which can be attached to...
They said anything, so it depends what a developer makes it work with.
But one of the things they showed is on the end of a gun, to play different gun games, they put it on the end of a baseball bat.
And the baseball bat, then you could...
You could see the bat in the Vive game that you were playing or the baseball simulation you were playing, but they could pull in real Major League Baseball pitches, actual data, because they have them all from the last, I don't know, five to ten years.
Any pitch from any pitcher you want to see, you can have now come at you and you can go ahead and try to hit it.
If you had a sword, do you know what kind of a fucking awesome workout you would get?
My arms were so tired at Duncan's place just for playing his archery thing, and I'm not even pulling anything back.
I'm just holding my arm up.
There's no actual resistance pulling the bow back, but just holding your arm straight in front of you and doing this over and over again, my arms were killing me, man.
I was like, this is amazing.
Like, this actually has some physical benefit to it.
And the boxing game, the boxing game has real benefit to it.
Like, the boxing game, I think you could learn how a person moves and how it feels like to spar with them.
You see punches come at you.
You can learn how to slip punches.
You can learn how to counter with things.
You don't feel hitting anything.
That's the only thing that's missing.
You don't feel them hitting you.
But at least when they hit you, you see, like, sparks.
It's not worth me pulling up the video, but there was a haptic feedback, essentially a backpack slash chest thing you put on for VR that would give you some sort of shocks or you'd feel something.
Well, it's also to let you know what's the potential for a Doom game from 2024. Maybe two years from now, hopefully.
We'll see what happens at E3 this year with what these companies are going to announce with the new Xbox that's supposedly going to have a VR. As soon as someone comes up with a haptic feedback suit, You know, that's able to get hot and cold and vibrate and jolt and even give you a little bit of pain.
Remember that, was that a, I don't know which James Bond movie it was, where they're holding on to the, there's some sort of like stick they're holding on to and like the loser, it just gets more painful and like they're trying, it's like a man, man versus man contest, but there's a bunch of, it's like at a cocktail party.
Eddie Bravo said something to me a long time ago, and it fucked me up.
We were talking about...
It wasn't a conspiracy thing.
We were talking about action movies.
And he's like, the problem with these action movies is you always know who's going to live.
The main guy's always going to live.
Like, you never...
Oh, yeah, he's hanging by a fucking thread.
Yep, he's going to make it.
He's going to live.
You know he's going to live.
I'm like, you motherfucker.
Like, I knew that.
Of course I knew that.
You go to see The Terminator, or you go to see Predator, you don't think that Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to get killed by the alien at the end.
No.
You think, that's actually really bad for us, isn't it?
It's really bad to have the good guy win in all of them.
That's why I think No Country for Old Men is probably important.
It's important to know that sometimes the guy who you think is going to live gets shot in the last couple minutes of the movie and the other guy just wanders off.
Spoiler alert.
And that's the end of the movie.
And you're like, what the fuck kind of movie is this?
Well, that's a movie that's more like a real live story.
Arnold can't beat that alien.
You know it.
I know it.
That thing's gonna fuck him up.
Why are we pretending?
This is stupid.
There's not a world where I can imagine that predator losing to Arnold Schwarzenegger.
They did it thousands of years ago, man, if you're fucking guessing, thousands of years ago.
I mean, I wonder if there really is like a cycle where civilizations just, they get to a point where all the monkey shit that led them to scratch and scrape and dominate and procreate and get to a point where they have a city.
And finally get a little bit of safety.
All of that just bites it in the ass.
Even though you've gotten past the monkey existence, all those monkey DNA, human reward systems, they're all still in place.
And they still make you want to chase the same shit that people chased thousands of years ago.
Conquest and domination and control the food supply.
And now that I'm president, I'll have all the gold!
Ha!
That need for competition.
That's going to be one of the things that I think technology is probably going to neutralize first.
I think that when you get a hive mind type scenario, which is a hive mind or a virtual world scenario where it's literally preferable to this world.
Like, why would you want to hang around and just go to West Hills and get lunch at some shitty place and wait in this thing and then go to the movie?
Why would you even want to do that when you get all your food through an IV and you're going to live in the Avatar world for a couple of weeks?
Work on that first, then your goddamn virtual reality.
Then think about going to Mars.
I was listening to Richard Dawkins talk to Sam Harris today on this podcast.
It's very interesting.
But one of the things they were talking about is people going to Mars And if they did colonize Mars, the genes on Mars would not be in contact with the genes back here on Earth and would human beings go off in different directions.
And then on top of that, genetic manipulation.
Once genetic manipulation gets perfected and they start really fucking with people's DNA and really changing what people look like and how they can perform and how their brains work, What is it going to be like in comparison, like the guys that are doing that on Earth versus the people that are doing it on Mars?
I don't know, because they have it built into the, well, I guess it's streaming.
A lot of the HDMI cables now, if you're, when you have your Xbox or your another system hooked up to something that you're trying to do game capturing on to, like, broadcast on Twitch or something, if you bring up a video or, like, your TV turns on, it goes black because it knows that that signal is bad.
It's not supposed to be broadcast.
It's not the game signal.
It's the TV signal.
And you'll probably, people's trying to show TV online.
But I feel like there's got to be a way to take Apple, like when you're using your computer, you can use a regular computer and watch things on iTunes, correct?
You can't record to that, or it'll put a big watermark on if you try to do that, or maybe not, and then someone will hack away against it, and that's like a battle probably going on, too.
It's just really interesting when we're looking at that video or the article rather about the people that were transmitting hola and chow back and forth through the internet and then think about this kind of stuff that you're talking about like really high level digital management you're putting out 4k imagery you're streaming movies and people are trying to steal it and you know Think about all the bit torrents and all the different files that
are available online when it comes to all these movies that Hollywood Studios spend millions of dollars to make and then boom, a screener's online moments before it's released.
This constant battle of technologies.
It's really crazy because we could just sit here and just show up at this CES. We don't have to participate at all.
Show up every year.
What do you got now?
Okay, see you in a year.
What do you got now?
Can you read my mind yet?
Nope.
I'll see you in a year.
What about now?
Well, we can't read your mind, but we can send you images.
Okay, I'll see you in a year.
Can you read my mind yet?
You just keep going back.
You don't have to do any work.
No one gets mad at us.
It's not like the people in the village that had to go get the water.
You drink water every day, you fuck.
You never go and get water.
They never ask you to get water.
You just got to give them money, and they'll just keep doing it.
You just show up, and they never go, what do I have here?
What do you have for me?
What do you have for me if you want to see my mind-reading machine?
I got money.
Not good enough.
Nobody ever says that.
You literally don't have to participate in it to enjoy the benefits of it.
One of the BMW, I think it was an i8, they had it inside the event.
There was a long line for this, so I 100% wasn't waiting.
You put on the, I think it was the Microsoft Surface with it, which I don't know why you would have this on while you're driving, but maybe in the future we'll be doing that.
And you're getting all sorts of extra information, at least, but it's still just a prototype, so I don't know.
You weren't driving down the street, so I don't know what they were showing to you.
They're just blasting stuff in your face on what it might look like.
Well, it just seems like whatever possibilities they have now, you just try to extrapolate, you try to add up the steps between now and five to ten years from now.
It's going to be really weird.
Did you see one of the DARPA announcements?
We're talking about all the different...
Well, it wasn't an announcement.
It was an interview they did with one of the guys.
I tweeted it, so you can find it on my Twitter timeline.
But they're essentially saying...
The new inventions over the next 12 months are just going to blow people's minds.
So apparently they're working on some really heavy duty stuff when it comes to neural implants.
Things along those lines I think he was mentioning.
Darpa's biotech chief says 2017 will blow our minds.
The Pentagon's Research and Development Division, the creative force behind the internet and GPS, retooled itself three years ago to create a new office dedicated to unraveling biology's engineering secrets.
The new Biological Technologies Office has a mission to harness the power of biological systems and design new defense technology.
They're going to make Terminators.
Right?
Over the past year, with a budget of about $296 million, it has been exploring challenges including memory improvement, human-machine symbiosis, and speeding up disease detection and response.
Fuck, dude.
Listen to what that says.
Human-machine symbiosis.
They're making a fucking Terminator.
They're gonna make a Terminator.
100%.
If someone comes along and one of the first pieces of artificial intelligence is a soldier, a machine soldier that makes no mistakes, feels no emotion, does everything it's told, can send back data in 4K in real time, and you watch on a screen through its eyes and tell what to do and it's invincible.
Like I saw a couple of those, you know, they're not brand new but like robot assistants essentially where it's like a laptop or an iPad screen that's attached to a droid or a little robot and there's someone on there talking to answer questions or whatever and they can control it moving around the room.
I kind of just walked by and I thought it was funny because there was three of them people were talking to and there's just one guy no one was talking to and he just looked bored just like moving around like someone talking like someone talked to me.
But again, I'm not sure if what I was seeing was the rendered video, because that's specifically what I kept asking to see when I would walk up to one of these guys.
I don't want to be pitched.
I just want to see what your rendered video looks like.
Most of what I was seeing wasn't great or didn't look better than what's currently on the market except for that.
Then a couple didn't even do audio or you couldn't mix audio into it and for our purpose, which is I was looking for it to help here in the future, I was trying to knock that out.
There were a couple car things, mostly just the BMW 750, the coolest one.
They were showing those off there.
They're also doing test drives of like M6s and I think some of the self-driving cars maybe.
I didn't take it on a test drive myself, but they had one sitting out that you could get in and just sit in and whatnot with all the extra screens everywhere.
But the back seat, which probably is...
I probably just didn't know this.
It's basically like a first-class luxury seat.
You could lift your feet up, stick them on the back of the seat.
Speaking of massage, I don't know if it's hot technology right now or if some companies are very smart knowing people are walking around this event tired and need a massage.
But the lines for massage chairs at CES were insane.
My point is, you're a very fit guy and you exercise on a regular basis.
So for you to walk 25 miles, if that's a strain for you, imagine what it is for a bunch of these fatties.
No offense.
No need to fat shame.
You know what you are.
No big deal.
You know, I mean, it's got to be really fucking hard.
If you're really poorly fed, you know, you're eating a bunch of shitty food, and you're out of shape, and you're overweight, and you're walking around CES geeked out of your mind on caffeine, it's probably a good start for the new year.
Cars are another interesting thing along the same lines that we were talking about earlier about technology is that it's reaching this point where, like, there's way too much car for, like, what you need.
Like, they're putting out these cars, like, right out of GM, right?
They have this new Camaro.
Have you seen the Camaro ZL1? It's insane.
I think it has five...
I don't know how many horsepower it has.
Find out how many horsepower it has.
650. 650. Jesus Christ.
And it's got a Corvette Z06 engine in it with a supercharger.
It's an unbelievable car.
Like, this is a 0-60, sub-4-second 0-60 car.
Massive, uh, all that, see that stuff in the front?
That's all designed to, like, keep the body down, all those aerodynamic little flares and stuff.
That's designed for downforce, so that this thing can go fucking screaming up to, like, 200 miles an hour.
It's crazy.
You could just buy that in a store.
You could go to the Chevy dealership and buy one of the most competent sports cars ever created.
Like that car, remember those Ferraris from a few years ago?
Like a 360 Modena or the one after that 458?
Those beautiful Ferraris?
That fucking car will bury one of those things.
I mean, into the dirt.
Goodbye, suck my dick, kiss my ass.
America, fuck yeah!
Screaming the entire time.
America!
Fuck yeah!
And it's $65,000?
$70,000?
Yeah.
That car is American muscle at its finest.
Plus technology.
Because, you know, real American muscles.
Kind of loose and crazy.
If you bought a real 1969 Mustang Mach 1, I mean, they're a gorgeous car.
I mean, it is a stunning piece of art.
But if you had to drive it today, you would be terrified.
You'd be thinking the entire time, like, oh my god, I'm driving a death machine.
Like, they're so bad in comparison to a brand new Mustang.
Like, if you bought a brand new Mustang GT, which I think you can get for $35,000, I think a new Mustang GT is like between $35,000 and $39,000.
And they are way faster, handle way better than anything top of the line from, you know, the 1970s.
See, like, what they've done by continuing to ramp up the specs, ramp up the regular car that you buy from a dealership, is equivalent to, like, one of the best cars ever just 10 years ago or 20 years ago.
So the technology is so ahead of its time that you go back to 97 and you look at the cars that were like the top of the food chain back in 97, like they don't even compare.
They're just nothing like these things.
And they're going to keep doing it.
The only thing that, like, there were some cars from 97 that have some attributes that people like, like those old Land Cruisers.
If you bought a Land Cruiser from Toyota in, like, 97, you essentially got an off-road vehicle.
They had two solid axles, solid front axles, solid rear axles.
You could take those things and Just drive up the side of a fucking mountain in it with the right tires.
They were crazy beefy, like right out of the bat.
And so people to this day, they take those cars and they jack them up and put bigger tires and wheels on them and they put Corvette engines in them just because the configuration is so durable.
Like, they don't really make too many...
I mean, there's only a few companies that'll make like a real, a car that you could actually take right now and just go drive, like a Jeep.
A Jeep's a perfect example.
You could take a Jeep kind of like right off the factory floor and drive to most places that most cars can't get to.
Or at least drive to places that most cars can't get to.
But when you want to get further and further into it, they start doing all these crazy modifications to these things and make them so that they could literally just drive through the woods.
That's what a lot of the companies were showing off their automation, like Mercedes, I think, Nissan, Toyota, even NVIDIA, the video game card company, was showing off, I don't know, exactly their software, I think, or their hardware that was being put into cars to show you how things were being read.
Like, this is a car, this is a light, this is a person, just how it's being recognized and whatnot.
I mean, it's going to go...
Mercedes was showing it, and I think BMW got into a car wreck, but I don't think it was their autonomous car that got into a wreck.
So, you know when they do a car show, they'll show, let's say if they're going to do one this year, they'll show a car for 2020, and it's going to look super high concept.
Yeah, well they smooth out edges and make things cheaper to build and there's a lot of cars that start out in concept form and then when they get ultimately delivered, they're disappointing.
You know, come out with a bunch of different things that they add to them that just turn out to be too expensive.
The most expensive car they sell is the Land Cruiser.
That big four-wheel drive SUV. That's their most expensive car.
It's pretty expensive.
It's like...
I think you get one...
They're all loaded.
You only get them one way.
And they're like 90-something.
Like 90,000.
so if you're building something that's going to get more upscale than that then it becomes a bit of an issue right doesn't that make sense accidentally i was looking for toyota supercars as this came up and the toyota supra might be coming out again Yeah, they're gonna.
I think it'll probably look a lot like that because that looks awesome.
I mean, if they wanted to make some money, but then all those angles and all that stuff, like is it more expensive?
Is it less expensive?
What do we do about that wing?
How's it deployed?
Is it mechanical?
How much does that cost?
What kind of brakes are we using?
It really gets into this weird area when it comes to these cars, but they also have to be stunning in terms of their ability because cars today are off the charts.
What you could buy from a Subaru WRX, just one of those little Subarus, that is an insane little car, you know?
And I don't think those are very expensive either.
You know, the computer programmer, or the programmer, rather, that's running the car runs a traction control system, the lane change system, you know, accident avoidance system.
Some of them hit the brakes for you.
Some of them, alarms go off when you get close, so they've got sensors, they've got cameras.
I've had, let me tell you this though, I've had two of those Lexus, those big Toyota Land Cruiser trucks, the Lexus FF5750, LX5750, no, 570, LX570, that's what it is.
The big ass truck.
They fucking never brake.
Like nothing goes wrong with them.
Ever.
I mean ever.
Nothing goes wrong.
They just, every morning, start it, drive it.
Oh, it needs oil.
Bring it to the place.
They put the oil in.
They check everything.
Everything's great.
See ya.
Bye.
No problems.
I'll try my Range Rovers.
It's a brand new Range Rover.
It's got one headlight on and fucking smoke's coming out of the hood.
Like, what happened?
Like, what?
What is the difference between a car that's like a super reliable car company Like Toyota.
And a car company, you know, like...
Like if you get a Maserati, you get a Maserati because it's beautiful.
You don't get a Maserati because you're planning on driving to the fucking moon.
And you need it to stay together.
It's not going to.
It's just not.
It sounds awesome.
You start it up...
But if you get that car, you're getting it because it's sexy.
I mean, you gotta, you can't be waiting for things to be deep.
I'm tired of deep, Jamie.
I'm really, really tired of it.
I'm less deep every year.
For real.
Like, something that Ron White said when he was on the podcast, keep lying and stay drunk.
Like, I'm paraphrasing.
Stay drunk and keep lying.
I mean, in some ways, the best way to handle things is not go deep.
I feel like we're clinging to simplicity with the last of our fingernails.
That's what I think.
And I think just sitting on your fucking back porch, smoking a cigar, drinking a glass of lemonade, I think that's a thing of the past in just a few decades.
I think we're going to enter into some super bizarre world that's, like DARPA's talking about, symbiosis, human-computer symbiosis.
I mean, people complain now that kids don't go outside.
They're sitting at home every day playing Xbox.
Just imagine what it's going to be like when we get to these really intense augmented and virtual reality spaces.
On the whole thing like that, I'm just going on specifically a technology run.
If I took all my computer knowledge I have now and had an iPad when I was in high school, and we could communicate with everyone throughout the whole high school all day at any time we wanted to, whereas we were writing notes.
I found a note from a girl in high school not too long ago in a box.
It's a very weird company in that regard, because it's also, like, the loyalists, the Apple loyalists are so extreme.
Like, people who worship at the cult of Mac and Apple, like, I had a conversation with a dude who was sincerely bummed out that I started using a Windows computer.
It's, like, so sad.
It was really sad.
It's like, come on, dude.
It's a fucking computer.
It's just a computer.
Just relax.
You know what I do?
I type words.
I type words and I look at porn.
And I re-dig.
I read a few things.
There's not a lot of processing power going on here.
I'm not making videos.
There's nothing on it.
I just don't understand why everybody would get so attached to a company.
It might have been Russell the other night because, you know, Russell hates those electronic DJs because he's into, like, old-school hip-hop DJ, and he is a DJ. But when you hear how much money people pay to get into those things, like, some dudes are paying, like, 500 bucks each to get into those things.
It's sort of an unspoken thing, but those Hakkasan places, all those places, there's booze flowing, for sure, but there's also pills.
A lot of those people are on MDMA. How many of those people?
What percent?
It's like, if you could light people up, if a little thought light bulb popped up on their head when you looked down the dance floor and all the different people that are on MDMA, what is it, like 30%?
It literally might be like 60% of the people are on ecstasy.
It's like, do you roll?
Are you rolling?
No, I don't roll.
Whoa.
Crazy.
Why are you here?
So it's...
If you're a casino, okay, and you know that all these people are in ecstasy, and you start counting all the 20 bucks pills, you start counting, we're missing out on $150,000 a night in ecstasy sales.
Do they have to know or does it all come from outside?
Maybe it's all completely detached.
Maybe they don't want to know.
Maybe they know that they need the ecstasy in order to keep the business running.
Because like, I don't know.
See, here's the thing.
These rooms where people just get together and dance with a guy on a turntable that's just sort of pressing play and all this electronic music and lights.
This is a recent human phenomenon.
This didn't exist.
30, 40 years ago, people would...
It was Saturday Night Fever.
I mean, they had disco balls.
That was like the best light show you got.
Oh my god, the light goes off the ball.
It's crazy.
Now they have laser shows.
The music is insane.
You know, confetti's getting shot through the air.
Like, accidentally their cherry drops on you and you're like, what the fuck?
And, like, your hand's on fire.
You don't know why.
It's because some drunk is hovering over you with their cigarette while they're talking and it just drops on you.
That happens.
I mean, that's a minor thing.
I mean, anytime you get a giant group of people together like that, though, you run risks.
If they could give away pot...
See...
The problem with selling it, even if you're selling it, is you're going to be responsible for all these people having heart attacks.
If you give them edibles, give them that goddamn spray that Joey Diaz just pumps in his mouth like it's nothing.
This stuff is so powerful.
It's so powerful.
It's psychedelic.
It's very much like acid in a lot of ways.
When you get a high dose of the THC sprays.
So if you were doing this experience on that, if you could keep it together, it would be wonderful.
But a lot of people are going to get super paranoid and freak out and have panic attacks.
So you're not going to want to sell them edibles.
It's too strong for most folks.
You know, especially people that don't regularly dabble in it, they won't know how much to take.
It's not like booze.
Like, if someone gives you a shot, you take a shot, you're like, holy shit.
Like, you feel it pretty quick, right?
Someone gives you a couple shots, you're like, oh, jeez, I gotta stop, I gotta settle down.
Or you go crazy.
But you know what a shot does.
Like, a couple sprays of this, who the fuck knows what's gonna happen?
You don't know.
You're taking a chance.
Hey, eat this cookie.
Okay.
You don't know.
You're taking a chance.
A cookie might be like a shot, or it might be like a whole bottle of vodka.
It might be so much of a hit that you're paralyzed and you just want to lay in a fetal position on the ground.
So anytime you get a giant group of people like this, alcohol is like the safest bet if you want to sell it to them.
Everybody knows how to deal with alcohol.
Whether they deal with it poorly or not, you kind of know the numbers, you know?
Oh, I had five beers.
Dude, don't drive.
You're fucked up, you know?
Oh, I had one shot.
Well, you're at 350 pounds.
You probably barely feel it, you know what I mean?
Like, we all know what the tolerances are.
It's pretty universally acknowledged.
I'd love that a place like this exists, though, man.
That these kids can get together and just go fucking bananas.
Because you can make some life decisions in these kind of rooms.
You can decide how you're going to live your life.
For real.
Because if you work every day like Joe Smith on that fucking construction site, and you show up even with your gold WBC belt, and every day is hammering nails and picking up wood and thinking of the time you have off, sometimes you can go to a place like this And you just experience joy and laughter and fun and partying.
And you start to think about your job job, your real job, and you start to dread it.
You start to really dread it.
You start to really get sick.
And you start to think about all these people that are putting on these electronic carnivals.
Why can't I do that?
Or you think about something else you do.
I got to make a living making furniture.
I love making furniture.
I fucking love designing it.
I've got to figure out a way to open up a shop.
And then maybe something like this, just these moments when you're away from the grind and you're just in this fantasy land and you hear and everyone's on ecstasy and people are walking by touching everybody's chest and everybody's laughing and you just realize like this is all temporary.
This whole experience is temporary and I'm wasting so much of my temporary time doing bullshit.
That I don't want to do.
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And everybody tells you, well, I want you to take over the family plumbing business.
I don't want to clean out anybody's broken shitter.
I want to make those LED lights that turn into floating mushrooms.
I want to make those.
Somebody has to make that.
That's a job.
I have to figure out how to get that job.
That would be the shit.
I mean, all these people that we have to rely on, that we keep, you know, go to CES every year, all those people that you have to rely on, like, all those people pretty much had to take a chance.
All of them.
Pretty much everybody that's doing any of those things where they're putting out these new technologies and showing all these new inventions, all of them had to be, like, disenfranchised or disenchanted with something and just, I gotta take a chance.
This is what I want to do, and then this is what I'm gonna pursue.
I was asking this guy a question about it because what it does is it has a really good lens on it, or two lenses actually.
And so it's doing this thing called aperture And I forget what it was actually calling it, so I'm hitting this button here and trying to see what was going on.
So I was trying to figure out if it's actually doing lens blur, which is what a lot of people are always after when they're taking pictures.
They want a really good blur.
It makes your photo look good, which is what that portrait mode in the new iPhone is kind of all about.
This is one real cool thing, and again, this is one of those things I'm not sure if this is real or not.
This is called the TinyMose camera.
What they're saying this camera does, it's made specifically for shooting outdoor astronomy photos.
It's got the Google Star Maps built into it, and...
The reason I'm not sure on this is because I've tried personally to take photos of stars and the moon and different things in the sky at night.
It's A, really hard to do.
For one, if you're trying to take a picture of what they have down here, which would be like the galaxy where you can see the different gases and whatnot, you have to leave your aperture open for a long time, a couple seconds, and let the light get in there.
Opposite of that, if you're trying to take a picture of the moon and get a detailed picture of the moon, you've got to go really quick because there's so much light coming off of it.
It's just a snap second.
You have to have a really good lens and whatnot.
This camera is good for both, and it's about the same size as a point-and-shoot camera.
And it says that they're allowing you to take all these.
And I don't know exactly how because I couldn't take this outside myself and play with it.
Filters, which would be reducing noise on your photo in sort of post after the fact, which I don't know if it's tricking it or if it's just removing some of the data from your picture to make it look like a better picture.
But it was being advertised on lots of different outlets as this is.
Maybe they actually got hands-on and I didn't and they got to see that it was proven.
But when you're flying, I don't think you'd be laying on something, really, either, unless you were flying on, like, a carpet or, you know what I mean?
His body's not subject to gravity, but his stomach is.
His body's being pulled down.
So you'd have to really develop your...
I bet a lot of people are going to hurt their back on that.
Because you're going to do it, and you're going to strap yourself into that thing, and you're going to get to a point where you're too exhausted to keep planking.
What it is, folks, is you know that the way a frog looks when it's moving across water, when it has those kicks with its back legs and its forelegs, and they come together and then they go apart.
Frog Fitness, there it is.
And this thing is this weird, it's got wheels on the front and wheels on the back, and you connect your feet to the base of it and your upper body to the front of it.
Scooch ahead so we can see these guys doing this.
Hey, look, I got a football.
But it's a serious piece of workout.
See?
Here, you see this guy moving with this thing back and forth and back and forth.
And I think you can change the resistance in those cables.
You can make it more difficult to do.
And apparently, it gets you in sick shape.
I've heard a lot of people talking about this thing saying it's a tremendous piece of strength and conditioning equipment.